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nethenanother thing, the power manager, detects the lid as closed when I start my session. Is this a known bug?12:14
menace!adept crash fix12:14
ubotuIf adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'12:14
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sybuxany1 know to run WoW with wine in a perfect way ? actually I've wow runing but the graphics perf are very bad12:16
menacewhen i try to run adept or frostwire, they as for the password, but then they never run. how can i fix this? its happened before on my other computer running linux12:18
rahmetlii have kubuntu on my laptop(A6Vc),without pressing any keys it sometimes displays "LCD ON".why?and how can i preveny this?12:19
pielgrzymanyone knows a bit of apache?12:19
pielgrzymI got a little problem12:19
nethenpielgrzym: ask, maybe someone knows...12:20
sybuxexplainm perhaps I can help12:20
pielgrzymI installed apache (first version) from repo, than installed apache2 and removed 'apache'12:20
pielgrzymI get an error12:20
pielgrzymcan't execute /usr/sbin/apache - file is not executable12:20
pielgrzymthe 'apache' file isn't there12:21
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pielgrzymactually12:21
sybuxit's normal12:21
pielgrzymhow to get rid of this error :)12:21
sybuxif you want to run apache2 it's apache2 you have to launch12:21
pielgrzymsybux: I know - apache2 works ok12:21
pielgrzymsybux: I just want to get rid of the error12:21
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rahmetlii have kubuntu on my laptop(A6Vc),without pressing any keys it sometimes displays "LCD ON".why?and how can i preveny this?any idea?12:22
sybuxpielgrzym: oops sorry I mistake (perhaps the late time !) BTW, search in you /etc/init.d for an apache script12:22
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pielgrzymsybux: thanks for help :) I'll try :)12:22
sybuxnot sure of it but it's a good way to start12:23
pielgrzymyup ;) didn't know which file executes the script :)12:24
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steveireis it possible to remove openoffice from kubuntu? It seems to be dependant on a integral language file.12:30
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rahmetlii have kubuntu on my laptop(A6Vc),without pressing any keys it sometimes displays "LCD ON".why?and how can i preveny this?any idea?12:33
Admiral_Chicagosteveire, sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org12:33
steveireIt seems to be dependant on a integral language file.12:33
StardogOK. I've managed to get "fglrx" in terminal to show "mesa 3d" after installing ATi graphics driver for radeon 9200. How do I get it to show "ATI" ?12:33
Stardogdriver12:34
Stardogin fglrxinfo12:34
Stardogusing kubuntyu desktop12:34
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Stardoganyone knows?12:35
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Stardog!ati12:35
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:35
steveireAdmiral_Chicago:  language-support-en12:36
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wildchildis there any tutorials how to create gmail account in Kmail ?12:37
menaceis it true that linux is as vulnerable to viruses and stuff as windows is?12:38
Hawkwindwildchild: It's in the settings of gmail itself12:38
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Hawkwindwildchild: Settings -> Accounts12:39
Dr_willismenace,  i dont think thats true at all.12:39
Dr_willismenace,  linux has security in mind from the very foundation of the os.  the whole 'root/user' stuff :)12:39
admin__hi all12:39
menacek12:39
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Dr_willishowdys12:40
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Sa_aSPlease and one can tell me hot to login to Dalnet ?12:40
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Dr_willisHuh?12:40
niko76hello everybody!12:40
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Dr_willisdepends on your irc client Sa_aS  - and what you are trying todo...12:41
Dr_williscould do a /server irc.dal.net  :)12:41
menacedr_will, remember a while back when i had the problem with adept and frostwire not working?...well its hapening again....do you remember how to fix it?12:41
Sa_aSthanks Dr_willis12:41
Dr_willismenace,  i dont see how the 2 woule be related.12:41
Dr_willisfrostwire - needs the sun java. not the jlg one. (jig? i forget)12:42
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Admiral_Chicagosteveire, hmm no idea that means12:42
menaceok well i just got adept running12:42
Admiral_Chicagomenace, no12:42
menacebut i dont see why frostwire wouldnt work. i have sun java12:42
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steveireAdmiral_Chicago: It means I can't seem to uninstall it without removing my kubuntu installation :)12:43
menacewait...i just uninstalled it typed "sudo apt-get install frostwire" and it cant find the program...its not in adept either12:43
Admiral_Chicagowhat dous it say?12:43
Admiral_Chicagoif it's long use a paste bin12:43
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Dr_willis!info frostwire12:43
ubotuPackage frostwire does not exist in any distro I know12:43
Dr_willisbe sure ya got the right repos setup.12:44
Dr_willis!frostwire12:44
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire12:44
Dr_willismay not be a package..12:44
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Admiral_Chicagosteveire, i don't think that would happen i think thats a bug12:44
Admiral_Chicagonalioth, can you back that up+12:45
ed_i have a password question12:45
Admiral_Chicagothis guy wants to remove OOo but it says he will be uninstalling kubuntu-desktop at the same time12:45
Dr_williswont matter.12:45
Admiral_Chicagoit won't unistall it will it12:45
Admiral_Chicago!ask12:45
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:45
Dr_williskubuntu-desktpp is a metapackage12:45
ed_can ther be a different log on password than root password?12:46
Dr_willisit basicially 'breaks' the meta-package - so it gets removed.12:46
Dr_willised_,  you can have a large # of users added to a system12:46
Dr_willised_,  and several of those users can be given the 'sudo' privileges12:46
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ed_can u disable having to log on?12:46
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Dr_willisYou can set GDM/KDM to auto-login as a specific user.12:47
steveireI didn't say kubuntu-desktop, I said kubuntu. It wants to remove language packages that look essential.12:47
ed_wheres that?12:47
Dr_willisin the KDM ControlCenter applet/area would be my guess12:48
Dr_willisSystem Admin --> login manager12:48
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Dr_willisunder the 'convience' tab12:48
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ed_ok thanks, u c i am trying to get my school to run linux, and that would be a req12:49
Admiral_Chicagosteveire, i once uninstalled OOo and it went fine12:49
King_Braddoes KDE have a "network tools" thing, like gnome does? ya know like a GUI for configureing your network card.... ip addy etc etc?12:49
wildchildHawkwind: but there isn't any Kmail :S to configure12:49
steveireMaybe it's edgy. Doesn't really matter. Just takes up a lot of space.12:50
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urosbhi12:50
urosbcan someone help me with sound problem on Kubuntu Dapper12:51
menacewtf...i downloaded azureus and now it wont work....whats wrong with my linux?!?!?12:51
Dr_willismenace,  i would guess a java issue12:52
menacehow can i fix it?12:52
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menacei have sun java 5.0 web start12:53
wildchildmenace u can't open azureus?12:53
menaceno, nore frostwire12:53
menaceadept wont run very often either.12:53
menaceany ideas?12:54
Dr_willisjava -version12:55
Dr_willisand see wht java you are using12:55
Dr_willisjava version "1.5.0_06"12:55
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Dr_willisJava(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_06-b05)12:55
menacejava version "1.4.2"12:55
menacejava version "1.4.2" gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.0 (Ubuntu 4.1.0-1ubuntu8) Copyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO12:56
menacewarranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.12:56
menacegahhhhh sorry12:56
menacethought i edited it right12:56
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menaceupdate it maybe?12:57
Dr_willisYou need to set your java alternatives12:58
Dr_willis!java12:58
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository12:58
Dr_willisor install the sun java... OR both. :)12:58
menacei thought i have sunjava...12:58
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rahmetlii have kubuntu on my laptop(A6Vc),without pressing any keys it sometimes displays "LCD ON".why?and how can i preveny this?any idea?01:00
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Dr_willisdisplays it when and where...01:04
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menacei just got a warning saying "if you have a router/firewall, please check that you have port 32428 UDP open. Decentralised tracking requires this01:04
menacewhats it mean?01:05
menaceim about to either switch distros or quit linux..this is rediculous01:05
cpk2how do you undo ln?01:05
rahmetliDR_willis in the center of the screen01:06
cpk2specifically i want to undo this ln -s /dev/hdd /home/cpk1/.wine/dosdevices/f\:\:01:06
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fignewmenace: WTF are you rambling about? every operating system has ports...01:06
menaceno its not that fignew01:07
fignewit means go to your router and tell it to foward the ports01:07
menaceits that adept keeps crashing. frostwire wont work. azureus wont work. gaim wont work. firefox wont work.01:07
menaceits annoying as hell01:07
Dr_willisrahmetli,  and this is.. during boot up? after booted? 40 min after left alone? ect.........01:07
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fignewwell, when they "don't work", what do they say?01:08
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fignewrahmetli: is it linux that's showing the message, or is it your laptop?01:08
menacethey dont say anything. they just never run01:09
menacei click the icon , then next to my mouse arrow the icon bounces01:09
menacebut i wait for hours and it never runs01:09
fignewthen go to the terminal01:09
rahmetliafter getting into the os,anytime after the login,when i am working on it,suddenly it says "LCD display on"01:09
fignewermm "Konsole01:09
fignew"01:09
fignewunder System01:09
fignewand type in firefox01:09
cpk2menace: the azureus packages is OLD01:09
rahmetlifignew i dont know if its os or laptop01:10
menacei understand cpk2, but that doesnt give a reason why frostwire and adept wont run01:10
menacetried it fig, on adept and gaim and everything, but it still never runs01:10
cpk2why wont adept run?01:10
menaceand i tried to put the priority to max. that didnt work either01:10
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fignewplus... azureus sucks :P01:10
menacei just wanted something like frostwire to work01:10
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cpk2i like azureus =\01:10
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fignewdoes it say anything?01:11
menacenothing01:11
menaceand now this warning box wont go away about the port...01:12
menacei just reinstalled a few days ago too01:12
menaceso its not spyware or anything01:12
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fignewthere's no spyware:P01:12
fignewrun: "strace firefox > output" and paste the file "output" into  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org01:13
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ulyssusHi. Does anybody know a good HowTo to run Guild Wars with Cedega?01:14
Dr_willisCedega homepage has a forum on that.01:14
ulyssusthx01:14
Admiral_Chicagoi use ktorrent01:15
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Admiral_Chicagoand that runs finu01:15
fignewktorrent FTW01:15
menacei wonder if fedora core is any good01:15
cpk2menace: that port warning is from azureus01:16
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menaceok01:16
cpk2i use azureus gaim and firefox without any problems01:16
cpk2and occasionally use adept01:16
cpk2so i am wondered what menace did to break his machine =P01:16
menacefignew, theres too much text to paste01:16
cpk2wondering even01:16
menacei just re'installed...01:17
fignewpaste then end of it01:17
fignewthe*01:17
menacemore keeps comming...01:17
fignewumm01:17
fignewok01:17
fignewdo ctrl+c01:17
fignewand then do killall firefox01:17
Admiral_Chicago!boinc01:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about boinc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:18
fignewand then rm -rf ~/.mozilla01:18
menacehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25765/01:18
fignewI'm assuming you don't have any prefences in mozilla01:18
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moonburnhas anyone else's knetworkmanager lost its mind?01:18
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Admiral_Chicagomoonburn, did it work before?01:19
Admiral_Chicagoi want to run that rosetta project on my computer01:19
Admiral_Chicagoi think that's what its clled01:19
Admiral_Chicagocalled01:19
Admiral_Chicagoi might have it confused with the CETTI project or whatever that one is called01:20
menaceim thinking im gonna go with SLAX, ubuntu, mandriva, or SUSE01:20
menacethey all sound pretty good01:20
fignewisn't choice just great!01:20
menacelol yea01:20
cpk2menace: you are using ubuntu right now...01:21
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menaceim using kubuntu01:21
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moonburnit did01:21
cpk2which is ubuntu with kde01:21
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menaceoooh cool01:21
moonburnSETI?01:21
menacedidnt know that01:21
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Admiral_Chicagomoonburn, yea that01:22
Admiral_Chicagoi got it. i need to compile BOINC from source and then run rosetta@home01:22
cpk2menace: just out of curiousity what did you do to get adept to not work?01:22
menacei have no clue01:22
moonburnAdmiral_Chicago> knetworkmanager worked fine, even for wifi, until last month... now it won't work for my wifi. i even switched from suse b/c i thought it might be a distro issue, but it seems that it's not01:22
Admiral_Chicagoplus, i'm working on my own protein folding project01:22
cpk2what error does it give you?01:22
fignewcpk2: hell, what did he do to get everything not to work01:23
menacei just re-installed 6 days ago and its only worked 3 times since01:23
menaceno error...it just doesnt run01:23
cpk2fignew: that too =P01:23
menacewell it trys to run....01:23
cpk2menace: does apt-get work?01:23
menaceapt-get what?01:23
Admiral_Chicagomoonburn, did you try sudo dpkg --configure knetwork manager01:23
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cpk2menace: try a sudo apt-get update01:23
moonburnno, i will try that when I boot back into kubuntu... have to use xp for wifi >.<01:23
fignewAdmiral_Chicago: I run electricsheep as a distributed project01:24
moonburndoes winrar do okay with bzips, or should i use 7zip?01:24
fignewmuch more useful (to me) than the rest :P01:24
cpk2you could just use rar01:25
Admiral_Chicagofignew, what is that?01:25
moonburni'm on my windows part right now01:25
fignew!electricsheep01:25
ubotuelectricsheep: screensaver showing collective dream of sleeping computers. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.4-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2669 kB, installed size 3376 kB01:25
menacePackage frostwire is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package frostwire has no installation candidate01:25
fignewmoonburn: I'd use 7zip over winrar any day01:25
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menacei think my repo's are friend01:25
moonburnthx01:25
menacefried*01:25
cpk2!easysource01:26
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic01:26
menacei did that01:26
cpk2!info frostwire01:26
ubotuPackage frostwire does not exist in any distro I know01:26
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cpk2its not even in any repos I have01:26
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menacei downloaded it before though01:27
menacewith the same repo's01:27
fignewhttp://www.frostwire.com/01:27
Admiral_Chicagookay i need to go study01:27
fignewjust download the .deb from frostwire.com01:27
cpk2maybe dpkg-reconfigure will fix adpet01:27
bLaZeDcpk2, if u want frostwire.....google free limewire pro.....its opensource too....and umm well i find it better....frostwire seemed to flake on me and crash...or say file is currput...01:27
cpk2adept too01:27
cpk2menace: guess frostwire isnt all you wanted it to be anyways ^^01:28
menacei used it before though01:28
bLaZeDtheres a rpm for the miewire pro which i used alien to install it and not had any probs wih it01:28
menaceand adept stoped working again...01:28
bLaZeDwell i have to go bbiab01:28
bertha!es01:29
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.01:29
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craig_Hello guys01:30
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craig_if there any package developers here01:31
craig_could you guys compile amarok with njb support01:31
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craig_this gives support for creative nomad mp3 players and dell mp3 players01:32
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BonBonTheJoncraig_: quick search looks like Amarok 1.4.2 supports njb01:34
Elisabethwhere are the options to change alt+tab behavoir, e.g. to have it go for all desktops01:34
craig_it does support njb if it is compiled with njb support01:36
craig_the latest version is not compiled with njb support01:36
Elisabethaha found it01:36
craig_when the packager compiles it they have to use the njb tag01:37
main2!realplayer01:38
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:38
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BonBonTheJoncraig_: I don't what to do, but I did find this page (http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Device:NJB), doesn't seem like much of a help01:41
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craig_thanks01:42
craig_but i think whoever is the package mataner for amarok needs to compile it with the njb tag to enable creative nomad and dell digital jukebox support01:43
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SbCl3i couldn't find this in the FAQ anywhere.... how much space does a Dapper Drake (or whatever the current stable is) AMD64 Kubuntu distribution take up with a standard desktop install?01:46
ubuntu_Quick question, how do I had an efnet channel to the IRC client?01:47
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Dr_williswhich client?01:48
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Dr_willisproberly a setting under the server tab/listings, got an entry for auto joining channels01:48
ubuntu_the one packaged on the Kubuntu CD01:48
SbCl3Konversation?01:49
ubuntu_Yeah01:49
SbCl3you're on a live CD, which probably means it's temporary...do you know how to join channels without listing them?01:50
oslogn01:50
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ubuntu_Nah, can't say I do, just playing around with Kubuntu for the first time.01:50
SbCl3in this window, type "/server irc.efnet.net" and then "/join #whatever"01:50
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SbCl3to add it to the list permanently, F2 -> New, and a nice interface is there01:51
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ubuntu_Sounds good.01:51
ubuntu_thanks for that01:51
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Random_Transithey, question....i want to have top running on tty1 when ubuntu starts...how would i do this??01:53
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Knifais there any way of me installing KDE on normal ubuntu?01:56
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BonBonTheJonknifa: install kubuntu-desktop01:56
Dr_willisFAQ #1 on the Kubuntu web site. :)01:56
Dr_willisI think.01:56
Knifaah :p01:56
Knifaokay01:56
Dr_willisheh heh01:56
SbCl3i couldn't find this in the FAQ anywhere.... how much space does a Dapper Drake (or whatever the current stable is) AMD64 Kubuntu distribution take up with a standard desktop install?01:56
Dr_willisabout a gb or 2 :P01:57
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SbCl3that's rather odd, my old one is currently taking up 6 gigs01:57
Knifagah01:57
Knifa200mb worth of stuff01:57
Knifacan i have gnome still installed01:57
Knifaand switch between them?01:57
Random_Transityep01:58
Knifaokay cool01:58
BonBonTheJonknifa: sure, on gdm there is an option for which you want01:58
SbCl3it will ask you at gdm or kdm01:58
Knifakay01:58
Knifait is downloading then :301:58
SbCl3actually, i think during kde's install it asks if you want to use the KDM instead01:58
BonBonTheJonyeah, during install synaptic will have a dialogue asking which you want to use, kdm or gdm01:59
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jdunnI'm having a crash problem with kaffeine playing DVDs.  Yet, kmplayer works fine with DVDs.  Both use the xine engine.  Any idea what's wrong with kaffeine?02:01
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cpk2is kmplayer really that bad? =P02:02
judith_Is it possible to use KDE dialogues and file selector in GNOME? How?02:02
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BonBonTheJonjudith_: kde applications in GNOME will use kde dialogues02:03
jdunn???  kmplayer is okay.  I never said it was bad.  Kaffeine is the problem and Kaffeine is the default DVD player.  I can't change the default and it crashes alot.  I want to know how to fix the crash problem on Kaffeine02:03
judith_BonBonTheJon: How can I get that working?02:03
BonBonTheJonjudith_: just install a kde application, it will do it automatically02:04
BonBonTheJonjudith_: gnome apps won't use kde diaplogues, though02:04
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judith_BonBonTheJon: ohh! I wanted to "force" Firefox to use KDE file selector?02:05
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BonBonTheJonjudith_: don't know about that one02:05
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soulriderdoes anyone know if autocad will run well with win ?02:08
soulriderwine*02:08
Hawkwindsoulrider: No it won't02:09
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SbCl3soulrider: if you have enough memory, you could try vmware...02:09
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josesitowhy am i seeing thumbnails of deleted pictures from my digital camera in konqueror?? are they somehow cached?? is it possible to clear that cache?02:11
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BonBonTheJonjosito: i think konqueror keeps deleted files in a folder .Trash, maybe thats what you are seeing02:12
cpk2josesito: sure you can clear it from configure konqueror02:12
JRH3K5I want my server to go to standby when it's inactive, and then to wake on LAN, like Windows can do.  Is there software that allows this?02:13
josesitoBonBonTheJon, nope,,,there is no .Trash because i deleted them with shift+delete02:14
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mikehow do i take a screen shot in kubuntu?02:15
BonBonTheJonmike: hit the print screen key02:16
Dr_willishit the printscreen key :)02:16
mikewhere dose it save it?02:16
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Dr_willisLogical eh? :P02:16
Dr_willisworks better then it dows under windowsXP02:16
Dr_willisamazing how Dumb xp can be. :)02:17
BonBonTheJonmike: ksnapshow opens up, you can save it then02:17
Hawkwindksnapshot :P02:17
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BonBonTheJonsorry, watchingtv, lol02:18
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mikethanks02:20
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physicsnickhey guys, i'm trying to enable vnc on kubuntu edgy, but i can't find the option in System Settings. it seems to have changed from dapper.02:21
physicsnickhow can i configure it from system settings? alternatively, how can i configure it from the console?02:21
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NameNomaddoes anyone know how to mount an extra cdrom drive?  I think the command is 'sudo mount /media/cdrom1/ -o unhide' but I'm not totally sure02:24
Dr_willismount -t iso9660 /dev/whatever /media/whever02:24
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Dr_willismake sure the mounting dir exists first02:25
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bertha!es02:26
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.02:26
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rcmni have a pbm to read dvd with every players xine/mplayer/vlc, i tried /dev/dvd ;/dev/hdc ;/dev/cdrom.I can mount unmount with user and see files on any dvd.But i can't play it.02:42
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RatKingHow can I start the ruby command prompt in konsole?02:43
rcmnrtfm02:44
Hawkwindrcmn: That's not very nice and not really how we answer questions here02:44
HawkwindRatKing: Since I don't know ruby, have you tried asking in #Ruby by chance ?02:44
RatKingNot yet, I'll go give it a try02:44
HawkwindRatKing: I only suggest it since they might know and I don't :)02:45
rcmn<Hawkwind>right but just rtm02:45
rcmnthat's correct right02:45
Hawkwindrcmn: No!  That is not how we deal with users.  We give them as much help as possible02:46
rcmnok sorry02:46
RatKingWhat would rtfm do? :)02:46
rcmnnothing02:46
rcmnforget it02:46
fowlduckRatKing: i think it's irb02:47
fowlduckRatKing: and you have to install it02:47
rahmetlimy system doesnt use any swap,i generally dont see it using,when does the system need it?02:47
JucatoRatKing: it means "read the f___ing manual", an answer which isn't allowed here actually02:47
Dr_willis'please refer to the proper documantion'02:49
Dr_willis:)02:49
Dr_willisPRTTTPD02:49
BonBonTheJonlol02:49
Jucatoheh... you have an extra "T" :P02:50
Dr_willis'please refer to the tradational proper documantion'02:50
Dr_willis:)02:50
Jucatolol02:50
Dr_willis'please learn to put forth a little effort'      :)02:51
BonBonTheJongoogle it?02:51
Dr_williswanted to say that a LOT to some people in these channels02:51
JucatoPLTPFALE ?02:51
RatKingI can't find anything with google02:53
RatKingAnd they won't respond in the ruby channel02:53
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HawkwindRatKing: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/202302:54
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HawkwindRatKing: First hit on google actually :P02:54
NameNomad!konsole02:54
ubotukonsole: X terminal emulator for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 673 kB, installed size 2096 kB02:54
fowlduckRatKing: i think it's irb02:54
fowlduckRatKing: and you have to install it02:54
fowlducksudo apt-get install irb02:54
BonBonTheJon!irb02:55
ubotuirb: Interactive Ruby (irb). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (dapper), package size 3 kB, installed size 44 kB02:55
fowlducki win02:55
fowlduckand i answered you ages ago ;)02:55
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fowlduckhi Seveas02:56
NameNomadI can't find the Konsole manual, can anyone tell me where I can find a list of all konsole commands?02:56
fowlduckkonsole --help?02:57
fowlduckNameNomad: or 'man konsole'02:57
Seveashi02:57
JucatoNameNomad: type "man:/konsole" in Konqueror?02:57
Hawkwindman konsole doesn't exist02:57
fowlduckbut if you mean commands to use on the konsole, use man bash02:57
fowlduckHawkwind: forgive me, I'm on edgy02:57
RatKingAhh, I didn't have irb installed as I thought I did, Thanks guys :)02:58
Hawkwindfowlduck: Is there man konsole in Edgy ?02:58
JucatoHawkwind: it does02:58
fowlduckRatKing: np :)02:58
cpk2i have a man for konsole...02:58
HawkwindJucato: Not in Dapper02:58
fowlduckHawkwind: indeed02:58
JucatoHawkwind: I'm on Dapper :P02:58
HawkwindAtleast not here02:58
cpk2<--- using dapper02:58
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JucatoHawkwind: what KDE version?02:58
HawkwindJucato: Hmmm, I don't have it02:58
NameNomadfowlduck/Jucato: non-existent directory/file02:58
HawkwindJucato: 3.5.302:58
fowlduckNameNomad: ???02:58
JucatoHawkwind: ah... probably in KDE 3.5.4 only02:58
HawkwindHeh, and NameNomad is on 3.5.3 or lower too02:58
Hawkwindfowlduck: It was added to KDE 3.5.4 and above02:59
fowlduckNameNomad: konsole --help02:59
Jucatofigures... :P02:59
NameNomadfowlduck, tried that too02:59
HawkwindI have it on 3.5.5 in Edgy02:59
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fowlduckNameNomad: and?02:59
HawkwindNameNomad: konsole --help works here02:59
JucatoHawkwind: 3.5.5 was released? O_O02:59
HawkwindJucato: No02:59
JucatoSVN?02:59
HawkwindNo02:59
NameNomadfowlduck: nothing useful at this moment02:59
fowlduckNameNomad: then google "man konsole"03:00
NameNomadfowlduck: ...why didn't I think about that?03:00
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fowlduckwow, this isn't easy to find03:02
Jucatohave you guys tried using the Konsole help page instead of the man page? (if there's one?)03:03
fowlduckNameNomad: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/konsole/konsole.pdf#search=%22man%20konsole%2203:03
fowlduckNameNomad: likely all you'll ever need :)03:03
fowlduckor, rather: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/konsole/konsole.pdf03:04
Jucatohelp:/konsole in Konqueror?03:04
Jucatohey nice find fowlduck :)03:04
fowlduckJucato: ha, that's identical to the help:/konsole03:04
Jucatoer.. yeah lol03:05
fowlduckwell, good find for the both of us!03:05
Jucatohehe :)03:05
cpk2for some reason i thought the konsole man would be a little longer than it is...03:05
fowlduckI'll have to remember help:/ in the future, thanks Jucato03:05
Jucatonow if only NameNomad found what we found :)03:06
fowlduckif only he was still around03:06
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fowlduckcpk2: i bet they figured most people using konsole would look for help through the gui03:06
fowlduckwhich yields far more information03:06
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Jucatocpk2: man pages aren't that long. but doc pages usually are03:07
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josh_ok03:07
josh_i have powned my system03:07
josh_bad03:07
fowlduckggs03:07
fowlduckftw03:07
cpk2Jucato: have you read the iptables man? =)03:07
Jucatocpk2: err.. well.... :)03:07
josh_i need to know how to get my system back to the way it was about 5 hours ago03:07
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josh_i dont know what i have installed but it screwed me up bad03:07
cpk2even when you know what you are looking for it still takes a while to find it in there =P03:08
josh_my themes are gone and everything03:08
usI know this has probably already in the forums but I can't find it: is there any way to repair an installation of dapper via CD?03:08
usI just accidentally hosed my MBR and want to get it back fast if possible.03:08
cpk2josh_: what themes? have your broken your computer to the point of almost not being able to use it?03:09
BonBonTheJonus: did you mess up the MBR or grub03:10
josh_yeah03:10
pierrethHello, I am unable to use Aspell, what should I do?03:10
josh_i managed to salvage alot but the thing is my kdm is all fucked03:10
Hawkwind!language03:10
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:10
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josh_sorry03:10
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Jucatolet's propagate the use of fsck instead of f?ck :)03:11
Hawkwindjosh_: Boot a Live CD and fix it03:11
josh_i dont know how to fix it with a live cd though03:11
josh_i dont know what i broke03:11
cpk2i thought you just said kdm broke03:11
HawkwindSurely you have daily backups03:11
josh_lol surely i should03:11
josh_but alas.... nope03:12
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pierrethAspell is now working in Kontact03:13
pierrethbut it is working with Kate03:13
josh_what is the command to reconfigure x?03:13
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pierrethit is not working with Konversation03:13
Hawkwindsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:13
Jucatojosh_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:14
Hawkwindjosh_: ^^^^^^03:14
cpk2Hawkwind: wins!03:14
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Sasuk3<303:14
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dennisterhowdy all03:14
Jucatowell I had to put in josh_'s name first :P03:14
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cpk2hrmm, jucato wins on a technicality!03:14
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cpk2sorry Hawkwind =(03:14
Jucatoheh :)03:15
pierrethI have a message asking to check if aspell in on my path03:15
pierrethbut aspell is on my path03:15
dennisteranyone need some assistance with multimedia?03:15
CraZy675I've installed fonts, but now firefox displays one of these wierd fonts, how do I change this or find which font it is to un-install it03:15
pierrethCraZy675: look the firefox preferences03:16
CraZy675yea i changed all that, didn't seem to work03:16
CraZy675unless i have to do it in about:config somewhere03:17
pierrethCraZy675: have you tried to restart it?03:17
dennisterno takers? :-) on to my question: how do I delete a symbolic link in the commandline?03:17
BonBonTheJondennister: delete the file that is the link to the other file03:18
BonBonTheJondennister: a symbolic link is just a file, you can delete it03:18
dennisteri'm nervous about deleting a whole directory...so I delete this huge long line of code?03:18
NameNomadO.k., I can't find a list of konsole commands, which is really all I want03:18
CraZy675pierreth: yes i have restarted firefox, not x03:18
NameNomaddoes anyone know where i can get my hands on one?03:18
linuxkid2NameNomad: google for standard Bash and Linux commands.03:19
pierrethCraZy675: are having this problem with all Web pages?03:19
cpk2i think if you did ln -s /hi/file1 /hi/file2 you would just rm /hi/file2 to remove the link03:19
NameNomadlinuxkid2: ok, thanks03:19
BonBonTheJondennister: it should just be one file, like in my web site I have /www/wiki to /var/mediawiki03:19
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cpk2BonBonTheJon: was my example right?03:20
BonBonTheJoncpk2: i think so03:20
dennisteryeah...and now i'm kicking myself for even posting this question 'cause the next lines tell me how to delete it03:20
dennisterso many howtos assume you know how to do something03:21
JucatoNameNomad: this would help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands (CLI commands are universal, whether you're on GNOME or KDE)03:21
BonBonTheJondennister: so did you figure out your problem03:21
CraZy675pierreth: only problem w/ sites that the default fonts not defined with css are screwed03:21
linuxkid2I know what bin, dev, etc. and home are for. but what's var, proc, sys, lost+found, and those others for?03:21
linuxkid2and usr, I know that.03:21
dennisterbonbon: yes, the hyams howto actually tells me how to delete it03:21
dennisterthat's rare in a howto, u know03:22
BonBonTheJonlinuxkid: proc holds system information, lost+found is used by ext303:22
pierrethCraZy675: So, what do you have as default font in your preferences?03:22
BonBonTheJonlinuxkid: var is used to hold folders for programs, like apache (web server) is at /var/www03:22
Jucatolinuxkid2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview03:22
BonBonTheJonor that03:22
Jucato:)03:23
cpk2linuxkid2: lost+found is when bad things happen to your drive03:23
cpk2and then you get happy again because you managed to get some data back!03:23
CraZy675i dont remember what it was but its deja vu sans now03:23
Admiral_Chicagocan someone help me, Konversation is showing me a network list and i can't close it03:23
fignewDoes anyone know how artsD's network sound works?03:24
dennisterAdmiral: what do you mean u can't close it? can't close the program? no box on top or left corner?03:24
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: just close the tab?03:25
dennisterfignew: how in depth do u want to know? what problem are u having?03:25
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: it won't go away, i click it and nothing03:25
fignewdennister: I see the checkbox for it in sound config, but nothing else03:25
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Admiral_Chicagobtw, edgy & xgl03:25
Jucatoaaah03:25
JucatoCtrl+W doesn't work?03:25
fignewdennister: I have tryed it over SSH + X1103:26
fignewbut the sound wasn't forwarded03:26
Jucatoerr... is it a dialog box or a tab?03:26
dennisterk...beyond me, sorry, fignew03:26
fignew!!!03:26
fignewwhat were you going to say03:26
fignewbecause I know nothing about it :/03:26
NameNomadjucato: Sweet, that link gave me exactly what I've been looking for03:26
fignew!arts03:26
ubotuarts: sound system from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 5 kB, installed size 36 kB03:26
JucatoNameNomad: no problem :)03:27
dennisterit was awhile ago that i was working with artsd; i wouldn't know how to do it with ssh and that03:27
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: no03:28
Admiral_Chicagoright click and close doesn't either03:28
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: which network list is this? the one that comes up when you first open Konvi?03:28
BonBonTheJonif nothing else works, you can run xkill and then click on the window03:28
dennisterk...maybe when I get to be less of a noob i'll be able to help more...although I successfully programmed a dhcpd.conf daemon from scratch last night :-)03:29
Jucatoor is it the Channel List (/list)?03:29
Admiral_Chicagoyea it shows what network i'm on and channels03:29
Admiral_Chicagothe title bar says Server list03:29
dennisteri'm off for now folks...later03:29
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: ah that one? it's a dialog box right?03:30
Admiral_Chicagosomething like that yes03:30
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gnomefreaklinuxkid2: please turn off the away message03:31
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: hm... Esc doesn't work? It's supposed to have a "Connect" and "Close" button at the buttom03:31
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: no thats not the one03:32
Admiral_Chicagohere i'll take a screen shot03:32
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Jucatoplease do, coz I'm getting confused... @_@03:32
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Jucatohm.. does anyone know how I can delete a whole day's list of events in Kontact/Korganizer?03:34
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: off the do to list+?03:34
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: no. in the calendar03:34
Admiral_Chicagoright click doesn't work?03:35
JucatoI have to delete the events one by one...03:35
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Admiral_Chicagoah i see what you mean03:36
NameNomadMy end goal is to mount my extra cd-rw drive, so I have to first create a directory for it.  Someone suggested the command 'mount -t iso9660 /dev/whatever /media/whever'.  My questions are: what does the '-t' input do? Does it matter what I put for the03:36
NameNomad"/dev/wherever"03:36
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NameNomadoption03:36
NameNomadand the "/media/wherever" part?  Can I just put whatever I want?03:36
JucatoNameNomad: -t sets the filesystem type (in this case, iso9960)03:36
Jucatothe /dev/xxxx has to be specific, wherever your CD-RW drive is connected03:37
pierrethOK, now things are working03:37
Jucato the /media/whatever, you can make on your own.03:37
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pierrethIs there a way to do a fast switching from one language to another?03:37
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Admiral_Chicagohttp://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i224/admiral_pro/konvproblem.png03:40
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: that is what i can't get rid of03:40
Jucatook checking03:40
Jucatook that is just totally wrong... it's missing all buttons03:41
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Jucatoit supposed to have New, Edit, and Delete at the side, and Connect and Close at the bottom03:41
Jucato... XGL...03:41
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: edgy maybe?03:42
JucatoXGL more probably03:42
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Admiral_Chicagowhatever i put it a different viewport03:43
Admiral_Chicagonow i have another problem, konact is only letting me sawe one persont03:43
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Jucatohm... that's strange too...03:43
NameNomadugh, I either approached this whole problem wrong to begin with, or I did something wrong.  It told me that no medium was found.  My problem is that whenever I put something in my cdrw drive, my slave drive, my computer can't read it, or my computer freezes and the light on my case that shows it's working is on.  I thought that I could mount my cdrw drive, but I think I've got something wrong here.03:44
ShadowApexis there some way to create a new user from the command line?03:45
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JucatoNameNomad: if the CD-RW was connected during installation, most probably it has already been detected, added to your /etc/fstab, and is set to automount when you put in a CD03:45
trappistShadowApex: adduser03:45
smaggardshadow> adduser03:45
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: nevermind03:45
ShadowApexthx ^_^03:45
Admiral_Chicagojust can't read right03:45
Jucato:)03:45
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: btw, that ubuntu classroom that you did on CLI saved my life03:46
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: it did? glad it helped. :)03:46
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NameNomadJucato: Then what could be the reason that when I put in a cd (in this case a blank one) it freezes, slows, or doesn't work?03:46
Jucatobut we have to be thankful to the guys who gave the lesson :)03:46
Admiral_Chicagoi'm teaching a kid CLI for a project we are doing using UNIX computers and i'm using that to teach him03:46
JucatoNameNomad: any CD at all?03:46
Admiral_Chicagoi thought that was you who wrote it / presented it03:47
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: lol no. :)03:47
JucatoI just transcribe what was delivered/presented03:47
Jucato(you didn't read the Note: part did you? :P03:47
Admiral_Chicagoah i'd be on NUN but I have way too much homework to do as it is now03:47
NameNomadJucato: I tried a blank cd and disc 1 for Gothic 2, let me try a music cd real quick03:48
ShadowApexdang.... is there some way I can delete a user's session? I (stupidly) typed in kdm restart in the Konsole and now when I try and log in, it keeps restarting kdm.03:48
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Admiral_ChicagoShadowApex: did you try to kill X?03:50
ShadowApex?   how would I go about doing this?03:50
ShadowApextype it in the command line?03:50
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Admiral_Chicagoumm i know ctrl alt backspace works03:51
CraZy675where are my fonts stored?03:51
Admiral_Chicagoi think its sudo killall xserver03:51
NameNomadJucato: I just put in a music cd and it worked fine.  So why should it act weird with a blank cd?03:51
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JucatoCraZy675: /usr/share/fonts and ~/.kde/share/fonts I think03:51
NameNomadRather, why should it get so bogged down it freezes?03:51
CraZy675Jucato: thanks03:51
ShadowApexwhere do I enter in that command though?03:52
ShadowApexlog in in Failsafe mode?03:52
JucatoCraZy675: an easier way to access the fonts is through Konqueror (type in fonts:/) or in System Settings03:52
ShadowApexor press crtl alt f1?03:52
Admiral_ChicagoShadowApex: yes03:52
ShadowApexk03:52
ShadowApexthx03:52
Admiral_ChicagoShadowApex: they both work03:52
ShadowApex*trying*03:52
Gevaudan82Hello all...I'm trying to configure the onscreen support for the IBM special keys in kubuntu...I'm following a guide specific to kubuntu and one of the steps mentions modifying /etc/udev/permissions.d ...i don't have this although I do have /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules ...are these equivilant?03:52
JucatoNameNomad: that I wouldn't know. a bad CD?03:52
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ShadowApex"xserver: no processes were killed"03:54
Admiral_Chicagotype pstree03:54
NameNomadJucato: New.  Man, I am stumped.  Gonna have to consider this one real hard.03:54
Admiral_Chicagoand you'll see some out put03:54
Jucatosudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart ?03:54
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Arepie_hello all...03:55
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Arepie_i've installed vmware with automatix, when i run it, it ask me for a .vmx file.. where can i get that file?03:55
TheHighChildAnyone know how I can make my KDE window decorations even smaller than the 'tiny' in the Systems Settings menu?03:55
Arepie_!vmware03:55
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare03:55
BonBonTheJonArepie_: the vmware website has some to download03:55
Admiral_ChicagoTheHighChild: custom?03:56
trappistArepie_: the vmx file is a virtual filesystem for an operating system.  you have to make one, or you can download one.03:56
Dr_willisArepie_,  thats a file that comes wth the differnet vmware images for various os's  its a 'settings' file03:56
Admiral_Chicagono that's only for the panel that i know oy03:56
Admiral_Chicagoof*03:56
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TheHighChildAdmiral_Chicago: Where is that option? or do you know where the config is that holds the numerical value of pixels?03:57
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Admiral_ChicagoTheHighChild: i actually know that the only thing is when i configured my panel, i set it to a custom size, i don't know about window decorations03:58
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Admiral_Chicagoplus i'm on XGL so it's different...03:58
zam    hi all03:58
JucatoTheHighChild: the width of window decorations are controlled by the different window decoration engines (Crystal, deKorator, etc). Crystal has a "Border width" and "Titlebar height"03:58
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Jucatoafaik, the "Tiny" settings only affects the panel (Kicker), not window decorations03:59
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TheHighChildJucato: ok, I am using plastik. I'll see if I can find another that doesn't look like crap03:59
Jucatohold on let me check Plastik's settings03:59
menaceOOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE. FrostWire works best with Sun JRE available at http://www.java.com OOPS, unable to locate java exec in /usr/lib/ hierarchy You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com ls: /usr/java/j*: No such file or directory OOPS, unable to locate java exec in /usr/java/ hierarchy You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com ls: /opt/j*: No such fil03:59
menacerarchy You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com03:59
Admiral_ChicagoTheHighChild: he is correct. i use plastik because it's the least offensive03:59
menaceanyone know how to fix that?03:59
TheHighChildJucato: It's the "border size" not the kicker03:59
Admiral_Chicagoor you could write your owe03:59
Jucatodifferent window decorations have different settings. so Plastik has different names from Crystal04:00
Jucato(the new Crystal from Edgy looks nicer than Dapper's)04:00
TheHighChildI just got an awesome LCD and it seems like the borders are massive04:00
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ShadowApexAdmiral: I did pstree and it displayed a list (processes?)04:01
Jucatohm... I don't see any setting for border size in Plastik...04:01
Jucatoerr sorry04:01
TheHighChildI'd like to upgrade. I just don't have the time or tolerance I used to with debugging and fixing the broken stuffs04:01
Jucatoit's there :)04:01
Jucatounfortunately, I don't think Plastik has any other option other than those in the drop down list04:01
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Admiral_Chicagoanyways coffee time04:02
Admiral_Chicagolater all04:02
TheHighChildCrystall is nice, has a custom04:02
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TheHighChild15 it is. Thanks for the suggestion04:03
JucatoTheHighChild: yeah. although I don't like the buttons... Edgy's buttons are nicer than Dapper's :)04:03
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TheHighChildJucato: What buttons?04:03
Jucatothe window buttons (close, minimize, maximize, etc)04:03
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Admiral_Chicagothat was strange...04:04
TheHighChildhmm, they're the same as teh Plastik. I wonder if I've got something that overrides them04:04
Jucatowhat do you mean they're the same?04:04
TheHighChildnvm, I am mistaken ;)04:04
ShadowApexAdmiral: I did pstree and it displayed a list (processes?)04:04
Jucatook :)04:05
TheHighChildI'm beat/stupid. I got a new job (Windows Desktop Support) It's lowered my IQ significantly in the last 2 weeks.04:05
Jucatoheh :)04:05
gpkumaranhi everyone, which is the best download manager for kubuntu04:05
TheHighChildIt's sooooo much worse than before I moved to Linux04:06
TheHighChildI swear, there was a Service Pack Threetard04:06
Jucatogpkumaran: KGet04:06
ShadowApexugh...04:06
Arepie_i've installed vmware with automatix, the problem is, there's no "vmware server console" or it is no "vmware server console" ?04:07
ShadowApex"Is there some way I can delete a user's session? I (stupidly) typed in kdm restart in the Konsole and now when I try and log in, it keeps restarting kdm."04:07
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bertha!es04:07
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.04:07
menace!frostwire04:07
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire04:07
JucatoShadowApex: restarting doesn't work?04:07
LeeJunFanShadowApex: it's not under kmenu->system?04:07
ShadowApexrestarting wont work04:08
LeeJunFanShadowApex: try alt-f2 kbuildsycoca04:08
fignewdoes anyone know how to disable/enable a network card (I think I'm having HW probs) (i'm talking like actually turning it off) not just ifconfig/ifdown04:08
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JucatoLeeJunFan: you're addressing the wrong person I think04:08
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ShadowApexk04:08
LeeJunFanShadowApex, Jucato: yep, sry.04:08
LeeJunFanArepie_: it should be under kmenu->system (vmware server console), try running kbuildsycoca in a shell if you don't see it, then check again.04:09
gpkumaran!download manager04:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about download manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:09
gpkumaran!kget04:10
ubotukget: download manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6.2 (dapper), package size 425 kB, installed size 1164 kB04:10
BonBonTheJonktorrent is good04:10
JucatoBonBonTheJon: KTorrent isn't a download manager04:10
BonBonTheJonyeah, guess not04:10
Arepie_Reusing existing ksycoca04:10
Arepie_kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!04:10
JucatoArepie_: ignore those error messages04:10
LeeJunFanArepie_: that's normal.04:11
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Jucatojust check K Menu again04:11
LeeJunFanArepie_: now check your menu04:11
ShadowApexLeeJunFan: so that alt-f2 was directed towards me right?04:11
Arepie_noope.. only vmware player04:11
LeeJunFanShadowApex: no it wasn't, sry.04:11
ShadowApexlol04:11
ShadowApexdang...04:11
JucatoArepie_: that's probably what was installed04:11
Gevaudan82Does anyone know how to change the links that exist in the Kubuntu Storage Manager? I already have my drives mounted and just want to change the storage shortcuts to  point to the mount points04:11
LeeJunFanArepie_: I've never used automatix, but I know after installing vmware server manually it shows up fine in the kmenu under system.04:12
ShadowApexso no solution for me?04:12
Arepie_can i install vmware from adept?04:12
JucatoShadowApex: hm... are you set to Start from a Previous Session or from a Blank Session?04:13
JucatoArepie_: it seems VMWare player was already installed by Automatix04:13
LeeJunFanShadowApex: you might try clearing /tmp and /var/tmp and then restart kdm.04:13
LeeJunFanShadowApex: that IS meant for you :)04:13
ShadowApex^_^04:13
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JucatoShadowApex: how about my question?04:13
ShadowApexso just rm /tmp?04:13
ShadowApexJucato: restarting won't work04:14
Jucatothat wasn't my question04:14
LeeJunFanShadowApex: no rm -rf /tmp/.04:14
gpkumaranjucato: i have tried kget in another distro(knoppix). but its not as fast as flashget or IDM in windows04:14
Jucato<Jucato> ShadowApex: hm... are you set to Start from a Previous Session or from a Blank Session?04:14
ShadowApexoh04:14
ShadowApexlol, I'm pretty sure it's set to Previous Session04:14
LeeJunFanShadowApex: nvermind that wont work04:15
ShadowApexbecause I typed in "kdm restart" in konsole04:15
JucatoShadowApex: you can try going to ~/.kde/share/config/session and clear it04:15
ShadowApexso now when I log in it redoes that command04:15
ShadowApexkk...04:15
Jucatoof course, Katapult and KMix will not load once you login successfully04:16
Jucatohm.. what do you need to play .mkv files?04:16
LeeJunFanShadowApex: try 'find /tmp/. -exec rm -rf {} \;'04:16
LeeJunFanah right, might be in the session, good call.04:17
ShadowApexJucato: so delete everything in that folder?04:17
JucatoShadowApex: hmm yes. unless you can see something in there that looks like "kdm" or "konsole"?04:18
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NeoChaosXhttps://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-icons Hmm, says it's implemented for Edgy. Wonder why there hasn't been a kde-icons-oxygen package yet04:18
ShadowApexyeah04:19
ShadowApexthere's konsole in there04:19
ShadowApexfollowed by a huge number o.o04:19
ShadowApexlol04:19
JucatoShadowApex: no kdm? try deleting that konsole file and try to login again04:19
ShadowApexk04:20
ShadowApexjust typing in this huge number is troublesome04:21
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JucatoNeoChaosX: strange indeed... maybe it isn't complete?04:21
andrividHey04:21
andrividHello?04:21
JucatoShadowApex: try Tab completion?04:21
BonBonTheJonhi04:21
NeoChaosXI dunno04:21
LeeJunFanShadowApex: rm konsole[tab] 04:21
andrividIm wondering if Kopete supports actual chat rooms, or just im/conferences..?04:21
NeoChaosXIt might be finished artistically, but hasn't been packaged properly yet04:21
fateisajesterthat worldpay thing is not taking my banks visa card. does anyone know where i can purhase cedega with paypal or check or anything other than world pay?04:22
BonBonTheJonanndrivid: Kopete doesn't support chat rooms yet, its in the works04:22
Jucatoor they probably decided not to include Oxygen yet04:22
andrividOkay.04:22
andrividAny idea how soo I can expect that?04:22
Jucatoit might be pre-empting KDE 404:22
cpk2fateisajester: WINE cant get the job done for you?04:22
BonBonTheJonandrivid: no idea04:23
andrividOkay.04:23
andrividWell I hope it comes soon.04:23
fateisajesteri hear good things about cedega04:23
BonBonTheJonme too04:23
fateisajesteri havent read too much about wine04:23
cpk2fateisajester: what are you hoping to use cedega for?04:24
andrividI also hope they include fitering, like bot ffiltering..and flood filtering04:24
cpk2fateisajester: cedega is basically wine04:24
Jucatoandrivid: chat room for which protocol? (YM, MSN, AIM, etc.)04:24
andrividcedega is just wine, having been optimized for game emulation04:24
andrividYM04:24
fateisajestersims, soldier of fortune2, half life, diablo, etc04:24
cpk2andrivid: cedega is called wineX though =P04:24
fateisajesterandrivid: but it has a nice gui04:25
andrividHey, would anyone know of any games available for Linux , Kubuntu specifically...something bigger then a solitaire thing...something good.04:25
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cpk2fateisajester: many games work with wine, the only problem I am aware of with wine is that sometimes copy protection gets in the way04:25
cpk2andrivid: kde-games04:25
BonBonTheJonandrivid: search for ubuntu games, there is a whole site about it04:25
NeoChaosXandrivid: Frozen Bubble if you like Bust-A-Move04:25
fateisajesterandrivid: i love tux racer04:26
NeoChaosXSuper Tux is you're fan of sidescrollers04:26
cpk2andrivid: there is a kde-games meta package04:26
NeoChaosXif*04:26
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andrividwell...i have games like robots and shit...but i mean something more then that04:26
JucatoCAUTION: Frozen Bubble is quite addictive...04:26
andrividlike Doom III04:26
andrividor something04:26
cpk2!quake04:27
ubotuQuake runs natively under linux see http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/ for details04:27
NeoChaosXJucato: Haha, yeah04:27
HawkwindJucato: Very addictive!04:27
ShadowApexJucato: >.< Didn't work04:27
Jucatoooh Hawkwind's back :)04:27
NeoChaosXI don't think I've ever got past level 30 on FB04:27
JucatoShadowApex: hm... try removing everything in the session folder?04:27
ShadowApexk04:27
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HawkwindFB is actually darn easy.  Too easy to finish in fact04:28
JucatoShadowApex: just take a mental note of the stuff that's in there, just in case you want to run them again04:28
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NameNomadgotta run04:29
NameNomadadios everybody04:29
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intelikeyFreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.04:29
intelikeykdeinit: couldn't open() tty: Permission denied04:29
intelikey_IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root04:29
Dr_willisTheres a South Park Eposide where htey are Playing World of Warcraft. :P04:30
intelikeyi get that first error several times at each startup of X04:30
intelikeythe second one one time each.          any howto fix's ?04:30
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intelikeycan i symlink /dev/tty  to something ?04:31
ShadowApexugh....04:31
ShadowApexI should have just did rmdir then mkdir04:31
JucatoShadowApex: still no go?04:31
ShadowApexit's rebooting now04:31
intelikeyerrrr actually tty exists and is a char dev04:32
intelikeycrw-rw-r-- 1 root root 5, 0 Oct  5 21:26 /dev/tty04:32
ShadowApexarrg04:32
ShadowApexnope04:32
soulrider!info ubuntu-minimal04:32
ubotuubuntu-minimal: Minimal core of Ubuntu. In component main, is important. Version 0.120 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 40 kB04:32
ShadowApexJucato: no go04:33
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JucatoShadowApex: darn.. :(04:33
ShadowApexJucato: I made a new user and that worked04:33
ShadowApexJucato: but I'd rather not have to redo all my settings04:33
soulrider!info kubuntu-artwork-splash04:33
ubotuPackage kubuntu-artwork-splash does not exist in any distro I know04:33
intelikeyShadowApex what problem ?04:33
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ShadowApexI (stupidly) typed in "kdm restart" into Konsole04:34
Jucatosoulrider: probably kubuntu-artwork-usplash ?04:34
ShadowApexand now when I try nd log in04:34
ShadowApexit restarts kdm04:34
ShadowApexand goes back to the log-in04:34
intelikeyShadowApex as that user, in a console type                        sudo chown `whoami`:`groups | cut -d' ' -f1` -R ~04:36
intelikeyor in unix terms own your home.04:37
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soulriderah yea Jucato04:37
ShadowApex?04:37
soulrider!info kubuntu-artwork-uspash04:37
ubotuPackage kubuntu-artwork-uspash does not exist in any distro I know04:37
soulrider!info kubuntu-artwork-usplash04:38
ubotukubuntu-artwork-usplash: kubuntu artwork for usplash. In component main, is optional. Version 1:6.06-22 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 100 kB04:38
soulriderJucato: for how long have you beein using kubuntu ?04:38
andrividWell i would have gotten Quake, but it needs a P4, i only got a PIII04:38
Jucatosoulrider: 10 months?04:38
Jucatowhy?04:38
soulriderjust asking04:39
Jucato:)04:39
Jucatoi'm just a 10-month old baby in Linux :)04:39
soulriderim a 3 month old baby :P04:39
soulriderstill a fetus :P04:39
Jucatolol04:39
fateisajesterhow do i view my fps when i run glxgears. i dont get any output04:39
soulriderglxgears ?04:40
soulrider!info glxgears04:40
ubotuPackage glxgears does not exist in any distro I know04:40
intelikeykids stop bragin' about your youth.   age will come upon you too....04:40
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ShadowApexintelikey: ok, i did that and now it displays a "> "04:40
intelikeythen you missed a quote mark somewhere.   hit ctrl+C04:41
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noiesmofateisajester, type glxgears in terminal I get this info 23878 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4756.692 FPS04:41
ShadowApexyeah, I missed the end ~04:41
intelikey>>> sudo chown `whoami`:`groups | cut -d' ' -f1` -R ~   <<<04:41
ShadowApexxP04:42
fateisajesterhow long do i have to run it before i get an output>04:42
noiesmofateisajester, mine did in terminal after about 5 secs or so04:42
intelikeynote front tick back tick  ` & '  must be as typed above to work.  ^04:42
fateisajesteri have been running it for about 3 mins now04:43
claydohtype 'glxgears -printfps to get the fps output04:43
fateisajesterthx04:43
andrividHey umm...I dont have Display in KControl...........04:43
Jucatowoot claydoh's alive :)04:44
claydohno I'm not ;)04:44
Jucatoheh04:44
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flaccidanybody know why my mp3s from frostwire open with mplayer04:44
noiesmoclaydoh, fateisajester must be a dif version of glxgears mine doesnt like the printfps option04:44
flaccid.mp3 is associated with amarok in konqueror file associations04:45
fateisajestermine did04:45
noiesmoflaccid, Check frostwire settings04:45
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fateisajesteris 2500 decent?04:45
intelikeyflaccid frostwire has it's own file ass.04:45
claydohnoiesmo: it has been that way in kubuntu for a while now04:45
flaccidnoiesmo: only setting is use frostwire player or not04:45
intelikeymaybe not a good place to abv.04:45
LeeJunFan!language > intelikey04:46
LeeJunFanlol!04:46
flaccidah i see04:46
flaccidthanks noiesmo04:46
noiesmoclaydoh, yeah no need for printfps option04:46
noiesmoflaccid, np04:46
intelikeyLeeJunFan be nice.04:46
ShadowApexintelikey: ok, I entered that command. Now reboot?04:46
LeeJunFanI couldn't resist. sry04:46
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intelikeyno just try to login ShadowApex04:46
ShadowApexhow do I get to the login window from the command line?04:47
snook353is there something comparable to gdesklets for kde?04:47
claydohwell i need tha option in both dapper and edgy04:47
intelikeyalt+f7  ?04:47
DaveQBor sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart04:47
claydohsnook353: superkaramba04:47
DaveQBif not in X ShadowApex04:47
snook353ok ,thanks claydoh04:48
intelikeyyeah if kdm is not already running  start it04:48
DaveQByep  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start04:48
ShadowApexintelikey: KDM is running, but problem is still there04:48
DaveQBor sudo invoke.d kdm start04:48
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intelikeyShadowApex ok04:49
DaveQBShadowApex problem ?04:49
intelikeyShadowApex do this in the console.  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop04:49
intelikeyShadowApex then as the user in question, do.  startx   and watch for error messages.04:49
intelikeyDaveQB he can no longer login graphicly04:50
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intelikeyDaveQB one user account affected.04:50
intelikeyDaveQB so it's in user's home somewhere.04:51
ShadowApexintelikey: When I stop kdm it freezes04:51
intelikey?04:51
intelikeywhat freezes ?04:51
ShadowApexit goes to the loading screen04:51
ShadowApexof Kubuntu04:51
ShadowApexand I can't do anything04:51
intelikeyyeah  alt+f104:52
intelikeyyeah  ctrl+alt+f104:52
ShadowApexah04:52
ShadowApexxP04:52
ShadowApex<- newb04:52
intelikeyyeah linux is handy that way.  multi-tty's by default04:53
ShadowApexalrighty... so now what?04:53
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intelikeyyou can use alt+f[1-6]   for login tty 1-604:53
intelikey<intelikey> ShadowApex then as the user in question, do.  startx   and watch04:53
intelikey            for error messages.04:53
ShadowApexah04:54
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snook353adept manager is just a front-end, just like synaptic, right?04:54
ShadowApexty04:54
Hawkwindsnook353: Yes04:54
snook353i can still use apt-get? hawkwind04:54
snook353ok, i get the idea04:54
Hawkwindsnook353: Most certainly04:54
snook353hawk. thanks04:55
Hawkwindsnook353: I don't trust nor rely on GUI package managers.  I only use the CLI version of the package manager04:55
intelikeyalso of note the login consoles are active even when X is running just have to use the ctrl key   ctrl+alt+f#04:55
snook353ok, thanks hawkwind04:55
ShadowApexinitelikey: "Fatal Server error:04:56
ShadowApexCaught signal 11. Server aborting04:56
ShadowApex"04:56
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intelikeyhmmm   looks like no .xsession  maybe ?04:57
ShadowApexyeah04:57
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ShadowApexwell04:58
ShadowApexit says "xinit: connection to x server lost"04:58
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intelikeyor bad info in it.    i would sujest you    rm ~/.?? -i    and keep your .bash* and .profile04:58
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intelikeyit will remove interactavely  the files  named .somethin04:59
ShadowApexwhat is the ".??"04:59
Admiral_Chicagois there a sure fire way to wipe a HDD?04:59
Admiral_Chicagobeside format...05:00
kbeeAdmiral_Chicago: so not even the Fbi  could read it05:00
intelikey   files starting with . are hiden from normal view  and  ?? matches any two chars05:00
Admiral_Chicagokbee: sure05:00
intelikeyfor a list you can     ls ~/.??05:00
niroxx_*uaaah good night05:00
kbeeAdmiral_Chicago: what is the problem before we attack the solution05:00
intelikeyand as i said   rm -i ~/.??   is interactive  you will have to confirm each file.05:01
Admiral_Chicagokbee: no problem, i'm just curious05:01
intelikeyAdmiral_Chicago dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hd?05:02
kbeeAdmiral_Chicago: fdisk does a good job and follow it by mkfs for the particular slices/partitions05:02
Admiral_Chicagodd? is that a joke?05:02
kbeeAdmiral_Chicago:  dd will also do it quite handily05:02
intelikeyAdmiral_Chicago man dd05:02
kbeeAdmiral_Chicago: not a joke05:02
Admiral_Chicagointelikey: teh command is a joke from some ancient OS05:02
ShadowApexintelikey: I did the ls command and it listed 3 files: kstylerc, qt_plugins_3.3rc, qtrc05:03
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kbeeAdmiral_Chicago: i use dd quite often05:03
intelikeyShadowApex only three ?  something is not defauly05:03
intelikeydefault even05:03
ShadowApexugh...05:04
intelikeyShadowApex ooops  add *05:04
intelikeyhehhe my bad.05:04
ShadowApexlol05:04
ShadowApexadd * at the end?05:04
intelikeyShadowApex  ls ~/.??*05:04
ShadowApexkk =D05:04
intelikeysorry....   </sheepishly?05:05
intelikey>05:05
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ShadowApexnp05:05
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ShadowApexdo you think it would be easier if I just created a new user?05:05
ShadowApexand deleted the old user05:05
ShadowApexwhat files and settings are saved for the user?05:06
ShadowApexlike, if I were to do this would I need to move any files? (i.e. /home/(user folder)05:07
intelikeyShadowApex /etc/skel/  has the starting home05:07
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ShadowApex?05:07
noiesmoShadowApex, most settings are in hidden files for kde see ~/.kde/share05:08
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intelikeyif you delete everything in your home and copy /etc/skel/* to ~ you have a fresh user account.     and yes   ~/.kde   is most of the customization05:08
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intelikeyone can do all sorts of fancy home tweeking and remodeling but if you change user accounts be sure to setup root jr. so you can admin05:10
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intelikeythat is to say (assuming default *buntu)  make sure you are in the admin or adm or both groups.05:11
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intelikeyi don't play the root jr. game myself05:11
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intelikeyShadowApex i still would first try   rm -i ~/.??*      and say no to bash* and profile    then try it.05:15
intelikeyit wont get any dirs.  only the config files hiden in  your home05:16
intelikeyshouldn't affect kde in any noticable way.05:17
intelikeyand all affects should be a restoring of defaults05:17
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ShadowApexok, I'll try that out intelikey05:19
intelikeyi wonder if kde is trying to restore the running "kdm restart"   if it is only fix will be to nuke the session.    maybe start in falesafe and then exit nornally to make a new session save  idk if that would work or not.05:21
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ShadowApexso keep bash_history, etc?05:21
intelikeyfale   hehhe  where did that come from....   failsafe05:21
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intelikeykeep all bash* yes05:22
ShadowApexk05:22
intelikeyand profile05:22
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dmeDr_willis, perhaps u remember a few days ago i had some questions about adding a new hard disk to my Kubuntu system; i finally got it working as I wish - however, there were 2 things I had to do that i'm wondering if it is normal to have to do them, or if i had to do them because I didn't do something correctly; 1) once i had the new hard drive in /etc/fstab, to get it to mount automatically at each boot, i had to explicitly state the 'auto' opti05:22
dmeoption, and yet they all mount automatically at boot. Does this seem normal?05:22
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Admiral_Chicagodme: yes05:24
dmeDr_willis: the 2nd thing is that once i got the new hard disk mounting automatically, i had to chmod it's permissions, because they defaulted to only root having the permission to write; is that normal?05:24
Admiral_Chicagowell you need the auto option actually05:24
dmethank you, Admiral_Chicago05:24
Admiral_Chicagodme: use the user option05:24
intelikeyauto or defaults05:24
Admiral_Chicagoi wrote a walk through on fstab today...05:24
dmei tried that - perhaps i typed in in wrong05:24
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dmeanother question: if i create a dir and then chmod it's permissions to allow user/group writes, is there a way to make it so that any/all subdirs to that dir, when created, automatically have user/group write permission? (perhaps there is some reading somewhere i need to do?)05:26
intelikeyinteresting...  this   >>> /dev/hdb /var/cache/apt/archives ext2 nosuid 0 0  <<< mounts automaticly.  so no that's not normal dme.05:26
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Admiral_Chicagoman chmod05:26
Admiral_Chicagoin the konsole to learn more about a command05:26
dmei have05:26
Admiral_Chicagobut i don't know the answer05:26
dmethank yo tho05:27
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dmethank you* tho05:27
ShadowApexintelikey: didn't work05:27
dmeintelikey, is the hdb a harddisk or a cd or other?05:27
neddiWhi to all05:28
neddiWis the Xorg update error fixed in kubuntu?05:28
ShadowApexdang.... such a horrible problem... and just a few words...05:28
Admiral_Chicagodme: hard drive05:28
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SwiffffftI need help 8-(05:29
intelikeydme it's not a chmod thing.  it's a   ahhh i forgot....05:29
intelikeydme hard drive05:29
intelikeysome setting ..... environment verable   set in  profile....    controls what permissions you make new dirs with05:30
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SwiffffftI have kubuntu 6.06 cd I made from iso but my hardware is: radeon saphire x800gto video card... p4 prescott x86T ( Socket T )05:30
intelikeyi hate it when i can't think05:30
ShadowApexintelikey: I did the rm -i ~/.??* command and the problem is still there...05:30
Swiffffftwhen I try to boot the screen is black05:30
SwiffffftI tryed safe vid mode05:30
Swiffffftand default and05:30
Swiffffftati05:31
dmethe thing i can't figure out is, if the harddisk hdc (my just-added harddisk) had been connected at the time i installed Kubuntu, would fstab have included the 'auto' option; that is, how does mount, when reading fstab, tell the difference between harddisks that existed at Kubuntu install, and ones that have been added; the only possible answer i can think of is that during install, fstab WOULD have been created with the 'auto' option for all har05:31
Swiffffftwhat can I do to get it started?????05:31
neddiWis the Xorg update error fixed in kubuntu?05:31
Swiffffftis the kubuntu dvd complete??05:31
Swiffffftmore drivers then cd??05:31
Healotmore packages; the kernel modules are the same05:32
Admiral_ChicagoneddiW: that happend a long time ago iirc and that was fixed the next day05:32
intelikeyShadowApex boot to safe mode and try saving the session and exit.   i think kde is trying to restore the "crashed" session  which is running the kill on it.05:32
ShadowApexfailsafe mode?05:32
Swiffffftwhy do I see a glowing black screen when booting?05:33
neddiWAdmiral_Chicago, oh ok many thanks!05:33
SwiffffftNeddiW how can I get kubuntu 6.06 cd to boot?05:34
Healot!boot05:34
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto05:34
Swifffffto and I have sata harddrive05:34
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Swiffffft8-o05:35
intelikeydme the env setting for the permissions is set in your .bashrc file05:35
intelikey# the default umask is set in /etc/login.defs05:35
intelikey#umask 02205:35
intelikeythe umask  sets all newly created inode perms as  777 - $umask     so in that default example its  75505:36
Dr_willisdme,  i make a directory on the hard drive then  chown/chmod THAT directory for the user to use. NOT the mount point of the hard drive05:37
ShadowApexintelikey: how do I save the session? When I tried to log in normally (after trying to save the session in failsafe mode) the screen froze and I needed to restart05:37
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dmeDr_willis, intelikely, thank you, that is good info;05:37
Swiffffft abit gd8 motherboard05:37
SwiffffftSwiffffft radeon saphire x800gto video card05:37
SwiffffftSwiffffft 1gb pc3200 memory05:37
SwiffffftSwiffffft ?05:37
SwiffffftSwiffffft cpu is p4 prescott x86T (socket T)05:37
Swiffffftwhen I try to start kubuntu all I see is a glowing black screen 8-o05:38
SwiffffftI tryed most of the boot options05:38
Healotx800gto? use VESA driver then05:38
Swiffffftvesa??05:38
Healotnext dl the Ati binary driver at ATi05:38
Swiffffftlivecd xdrv=vesa??05:39
Healotsince the Xorg driver supports up to x200 or x300 i think05:39
Swiffffftit keeps booting to hd when I type that05:39
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intelikeyShadowApex i have never broke kde in exactly the way you just did  heheh    lets get radical and fix it here.      do this in that users console    tar -cjf backup.tbz ~/.kde  && rm -rf ~/.kde        then try it.05:39
Healotoh live CD, stick to VESA, Swiffffft : boot to text mode instead05:39
Swifffffthow I type vesa???05:39
urliare all of you urli users?05:39
Swifffffttext mode lmao05:39
dmeDr_willis, i have another question, if u will; I use a KVM; when i boot Kubuntu, and it the box that is KVM selected, all is fine; however, if i have my Windows box selected and boot the Kubuntu box, it boots to 460x600, and it cannot be increased without restarting X window manager; i've examined the video settings file, and it IS set to 1000x1280 as default; any idea how to get X to realized that even tho no monitor is attached, my video card c05:40
ShadowApexintelikey: xP k, I'll try that05:40
kbee!repo > kbee05:40
HealotSwiffffft, it is the PCI-e card, way too advanced for Xorg free driver05:40
ShadowApexman, there needs to be a warning somewhere05:40
Swifffffthealot I cant do anything in text mode05:40
ShadowApexNEVER type in kdm restart in Konsole05:40
ShadowApexlol05:40
HealotSwiffffft, type? fufufu05:40
Swiffffftfufufu???05:41
Swiffffftwhats that?05:41
SwiffffftHealot?05:41
Healotme laugh :)05:41
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intelikeyShadowApex you will have to start yourself a list of "never do this"'s   :)05:42
urliim new in linux and was wandering abou the compatibility of computer games with linux, they have to specify it, right?05:42
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HealotSwiffffft, do you have  copy of knoppix right?05:42
Swiffffftya05:42
ShadowApexlol05:42
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Healotboot from knoppix, the default boot option05:42
Swiffffftim on mepis watching the little fish hahaha05:42
cpk2urli: even if they dont support linux you can still play them on linux05:42
dmeFreddyM, intelikely, any idea how to fix that kvm-boot-resolution problem?05:43
Swiffffftok then05:43
Healotlet's see whether the card is supported by Xorg?05:43
Swiffffftk brb05:43
FreddyMdme: i don't really know anything about KDMs except what they are05:43
Healotknoppix is way better at autodetecting stuff05:43
intelikey kvm-boot-resolution  problem?  ???05:43
Dr_willisdme,  when X starts up- its proberly quering the monitor to see what it can display..05:44
dmekvm - KeyboardVideoMouse - lets you use just one keyboard, video, mouse for multiple computers - special keystroke combo switches between boxes to select which one you interact with05:44
Dr_willistheres some way to disable that.. and force it to use other settings I guess.. but not sure about oit.05:44
dmeDr_willis: that is what i think05:44
dmeok05:44
dmeany idea how to point me in the right directions?05:45
dmedirection*05:45
ShadowApexintelikey: works now! ^_^05:45
pavloswill kubuntu use both cpu on a dual server I want to install it?05:45
intelikeydme i can't offer anything but a listening ear on that.... i'm network illiterate05:45
dmeDr_willis, did u see my earlier comments regarding how my new harddisk ?05:45
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FreddyMi know what a KDM is, even used a few. i just don't think X can configure to many different monitors05:45
FreddyMX does a real good job of auto recognizing hardware, but it also needs reconfiguring05:46
intelikeyShadowApex and you know how to reset your "kde" if needed in the future.05:46
ShadowApexyeah, thank you so much05:46
urlithanks cpk2, but how do i open windows exe files?,05:46
dmesounds like reading up on X is where i start; thanks FreddyM05:46
ShadowApexlooks like it reset all the settings?05:46
intelikeyShadowApex yes  all.05:46
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ShadowApexwhat about installed files, etc.05:47
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intelikeyyou can open the backup.tbz and see if anything you need is in there.    kde should not have installed anything in it's confdir05:47
dmethis has been a productive, and gratefully, quick session; thanks Dr_willis, FreddyM, intelikely; bye05:47
ShadowApexthanks, this will work05:48
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urlihow can i open a windows exe file? an autorun for example?05:48
Dr_willisHmm.. ive never seen that behaivor dme - and i boot up mopst of my machines with the monitor Off.. :P lol.05:48
Dr_willisurli,  by  open you mean . RUN ?05:48
urliright05:48
Healoturli, you need to drink some WINE :)05:48
Dr_willis!wine05:48
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.05:48
intelikeyurli wine autorun.exe05:48
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intelikeybut use the full path.05:49
urlithanks a lot, man05:49
Dr_willisurli,  you do realize that linux is NOT windows.. :P and theres no guarentees as to how well a windows app can be made to run with wine or cedega. :)05:49
ShadowApexwell I'm going to get going, thanks for all your help intelikey. I would have never found a solution without you ;D05:49
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intelikeyShadowApex very welcome05:49
intelikeyurli and there are some thing that wine just can't run...05:50
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Healoturli, you can get yourself drunk though05:51
intelikeyi often think that M$ purposely does that....05:51
urlijajajaaj05:51
urliguys, wich of all the software do i need?05:51
urlisorry for the english, but im from argentina05:51
intelikeyneed ?05:51
urlito run the autorun program05:52
intelikeysudo apt-get install wine05:52
urlii mean, there are lots of downloads, not only wine05:52
urlisorry but im a litthle lost with linux05:53
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=== intelikey never has much luck with autorun.exe cause it's inverably an installer and gets drunk on the wine it uses ....
knoppix_Linux Knoppix 2.4.27 #2 SMP Mo Aug 9 00:39:37 CEST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux  8-P05:54
knoppix_it works05:54
unix_infidelurli: if you feel more comfortable in your native language.05:54
unix_infidel!ubuntu-es05:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-es - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:54
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unix_infidel!es05:54
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.05:54
Swifffftits me05:54
SwifffftHealot05:54
Healothow was the knoppix session?05:54
urlithanks a lot guys05:55
urlicheers05:55
intelikeyurli what are you wanting to install ?   most of the time it's better to look for an open-sourse alternative to the M$ krap05:55
Swifffftim in it hahahah05:55
Swifffftstill05:55
Swifffftknoppix@ttyp0[knoppix] $ uname -a05:55
SwifffftLinux Knoppix 2.4.27 #2 SMP Mo Aug 9 00:39:37 CEST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux05:55
Swifffftknoppix@ttyp0[knoppix] $05:55
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HealotSwifffft, cat me the driver of your Knoppix Xorg settings05:55
SwifffftI found a tutorial on installing unreal tournament 2004 in mepis...05:55
Swifffft? how05:56
Healoti have a x300 here, and knoppix Xorg works works05:56
Swifffft..http://www.mepisguides.com/ut2k4/ut2k4.html05:56
urlisorry, no response in the sapnish room, im trying to install a game05:56
HealotSwifffft, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | cat Driver05:56
Swifffftcat you the driver how05:56
HealotSwifffft, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver05:56
Healotsorry05:56
Swifffftto many cats hahaha 8-P05:57
intelikeyurli better check cedega out05:57
intelikeymade for games    transgamming.org  or something like that.05:57
Swifffftno such file or directory...05:57
intelikey!cedega05:57
ubotucedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega05:57
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intelikeyurli    see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega05:58
intelikeysi05:58
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urlibut cedega must be purchased, right?06:00
intelikeyview the link ^06:00
intelikeyread the page06:00
unix_infidelanyone here made their own cantenna before with a pringles can?06:01
intelikeypvc pipe and renolds wrap06:02
Dr_willisI just run cables. :P06:02
unix_infidelthinking about getting some electrochemically favorable compounds.06:03
unix_infideland putting them inside a can.06:03
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unix_infidelHAHAH, so much for running cables, seems to be working well :)06:03
intelikeygooday06:03
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cpk2urli: what game do you want to install?06:09
urlifootball manager 200506:10
Healotcedega06:10
urliyes, but i just cant download it06:11
Healotcompatibility list ;06:11
Healoturli, stay legal :)06:11
urliso i have to buy cedega?06:11
Healoturli, buy a retail copy of Windows XP :)06:12
Healotsave you the technical details06:12
cpk2urli: that works with wine06:12
urliok, but i have to buy wine, right?06:12
cpk2urli: wine is free06:12
Hawkwind!wine06:13
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.06:13
cpk2urli: this link will help you get wine installed http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb06:13
cpk2urli: you will need to get a cracked exe to bypass the copy protection though06:14
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cpk2urli: although I recommend trying to see if it runs without a cracked exe first =)06:15
urliright, im a little lost guys but thanks for the help06:15
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ojintoadanyone wanna confirm a minor frustration I'm having with kubuntu and firefox?06:18
cpk2well i dont really want to be frustated too...06:18
ojintoadhopefully you wont be :-)06:18
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ojintoadwhen i click on the firefox icon to open a new window from the panel, it manages to do so, but an extra firefox instance flashes in the taskbar for a few seconds and then dies away.06:19
ojintoaddoesn't seem to bug anything but i'm just wondering if anyone else experiences it.06:19
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ojintoadi should point out that firefox is running allready when i click the icon.06:20
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fdovingojintoad: try to start firefox from konsole (kmenu -> system -> konsole) with the command 'firefox', that way you might get some usefull output in the konsole.. on why it's dying.06:21
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fdovingi really have to go to work now, hope it helps you on the way :)06:22
fdovingbye.06:22
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ojintoadmerci.  enjoy work.  that actually opens an entire new instance of firefox with a nice little <2> in the titlebar.06:22
moparisthebestis there a way to connect via ssh through a proxy?06:26
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trappistmoparisthebest: yes, but off the top of my head I couldn't tell you how.  you want an ssh tunneller.06:33
Brydenn33i have a question06:33
moparisthebestthanks trappist06:33
poseidonIs there some sort of auto-update that will run as a service?06:33
Brydenn33if i installed kubuntu on a drive and then made it a master with a Windows XP drive as a slave... how do i edit grub to load to windows?06:34
trappistposeidon: it wouldn't be to hard to set it up as like a nightly cron job06:34
Brydenn33any of you losers still awake?06:35
trappistBrydenn33: that'll probably help your cause06:36
Brydenn33lol i know06:36
Brydenn33my f'n eye hurts06:36
Brydenn33got kicked in the face06:36
trappistI wonder why06:36
Brydenn33oh it was just in practice06:36
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ojintoadBrydenn33: I think that a google search should help you on that one.06:36
Brydenn33(mixed martial arts) for those of you that dont know06:36
MotorCityMadMancan you say chainloader06:36
ojintoadIt's a pretty frequent question.06:37
Brydenn33ojintoad: die06:37
Brydenn33wasnt talking to you06:37
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Healot!language06:43
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:43
Healotis that it? damn06:43
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omarHi gusy How can I munt a diskette06:46
omarHi guys How can I munt a diskette06:46
flaccid!floppy06:46
ubotuTo mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone06:46
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omarI did that but nothing happened06:50
omarthe web ask me to change a file, and I did06:50
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kane_hey, is there a way to get remove a package and none of the "unrequried packages" that apt-get talks about?06:55
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rcmni have a pbm to read dvd with every players xine/mplayer/vlc, i tried /dev/dvd ;/dev/hdc ;/dev/cdrom.I can mount unmount with user and see files on any dvd.But i can't play it.07:00
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Healotrcmn, which dev is your DVD rom?07:07
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charlie5hi all07:11
rcmndev/hdc07:12
charlie5does anyone use a netcomm ADSL2 + Router modem for broadband ?07:12
rcmn<healot> dev/hdc07:12
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charlie5i'm having enormous trouble getting a bband connection07:13
charlie5i have a modem log here ... http://rafb.net/paste/results/6Xl3o733.html ... is there anything obviously wrong ... i have trouble following it ...07:14
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rcmnif i launch kmplayer from prompt it won't complain but just stop after check the region of the DVD07:15
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fateisajestermy wife used to use a program on windows called avatar palace. i have found a linux version called linpal but all i can get is the source. i have heard that you can mess up your system if you install things from source. is that true07:20
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rcmnKaffeine using xine will error out with missing plugin MRL dvd:/07:23
Admiral_Chicagorcmn: did you try vlc?07:23
rcmnyup07:23
Admiral_Chicagofateisajester: kind of07:23
Admiral_Chicagobut for one program, no07:24
Admiral_Chicagoif you have a ton of dependency issues and change your libraries a lot, that could mess up your system07:24
rcmn[00000270]  main input error: no suitable access module for `dvd://'07:24
fateisajesteri think i get it07:24
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rcmnarg i need a module for dvd07:25
rcmnto access dvd07:25
fateisajesteri thought i had all of my repositories updated but i cant find it on synaptic07:25
rcmnok i guees that the deal module for dvd07:25
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Admiral_Chicagofateisajester: if you compile from source, it is ./configure && make && sudo make install07:27
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fateisajesterthx07:28
fateisajesterdoes it matter where i ectract the files to?07:29
rcmndoes anyone know witch module is it refering too ? do i have to modprob07:29
rcmne07:29
Admiral_Chicagofateisajester: no07:29
rcmni'm using the kernel-k707:29
fateisajesterok07:29
Admiral_Chicagomake it to the desktop because it's easier that way07:29
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ironfroggywhat might cause bad flickering on every screen rendering operation?07:32
ironfroggyswitching windows, scrolling pages, animations and videos: everything causes a terrible flicker. i can actually watch the lines being updated one by one.07:32
Admiral_Chicagoironfroggy: probably your video driver07:34
fateisajesterthis is waht i get from make....bash: make: command not found07:34
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kranjanhi07:35
ironfroggyAdmiral_Chicago: never had trouble with it on any other distribution and Kubuntu had a more recent version than what i was using before.07:35
Admiral_Chicagoironfroggy: card? what is your driver+07:36
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ironfroggyintel i81007:36
ironfroggyyes, i know its crappy, but i also no i can get performance out of it that doesnt make the system unsuitable even to just check my email and read blogs.07:37
Admiral_Chicagoironfroggy: try a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:37
Admiral_Chicagothat MAY help07:37
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ironfroggyok07:37
Admiral_Chicagoyou're the second person with intel problems in the last 15 minutes07:38
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distantbi am having trouble installing mozilla , anyone have a minute?07:38
ghostshadow189hi all , i've a problem that i cant listen to music07:38
ghostshadow189i installed juK and Noatun but both of them doesnt work . with juK , it couldnt play music . with Noatun , when it started it warned me : "Connecting/starting aRTs sound server failed . Make sure that artd is configured properly ."07:38
ghostshadow189when boot i can hear sound , both sound when i type password and sound when ubuntu load and ofcourse when i shutdown comp .07:38
ghostshadow189in sound manger i saw that there're 3 devices :07:38
ghostshadow189file -> change device -> 0: HDA ATI SB (Alxar Mixer) - 1: DellSound blaster live (Alxar Mixer) - 2: Realtek ALC883 (OSS Mixer) . Soi'm using Realtek .07:38
ghostshadow189when i use a music cd , i can listen to it's music07:38
rodhi, is there a way i can allow a normal user to bind to port 80 with kubuntu?07:39
ghostshadow189but i cant listen to music files07:39
rcmnthere is many possibility07:39
fateisajesterwhy cant i use the make command07:39
fateisajesteri did sudo07:39
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rcmn<ghostshadow189>first make just using 1 audio client when testing07:40
Admiral_Chicagodistantb: what is the problem07:40
ghostshadow189yes like i said , i've tried juK and Noatun07:40
Admiral_Chicagofateisajester: do you have build-essenital installed07:41
rcmn<ghostshadow189>can u manually choose what hardware u sue07:41
rcmnuse07:41
fateisajesterok07:41
ghostshadow189Realtek ALC88307:41
rcmni suppose if u hear the sound07:41
ghostshadow189like i said07:41
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rcmnok so u're speaker are connected to the realtek07:42
rcmnfor sure07:42
ghostshadow189 in sound manger i saw that there're 3 devices :07:42
ghostshadow189file -> change device -> 0: HDA ATI SB (Alxar Mixer) - 1: DellSound blaster live (Alxar Mixer) - 2: Realtek ALC883 (OSS Mixer) . Soi'm using Realtek .07:42
ghostshadow189yes07:42
rcmnthen it means kde use the realtek since u can here the login sound right07:42
ghostshadow189yes , i also can listen to music from cd07:43
rcmnoss07:43
ghostshadow189yes it's oss mixer07:43
rcmnalsa oss07:43
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rcmnhum and atun is looking for alsa07:43
ghostshadow189i installed juK and Noatun but both of them doesnt work . with juK , it couldnt play music . with Noatun , when it started it warned me : "Connecting/starting aRTs sound server failed . Make sure that artd is configured properly ."07:43
rcmnlet me look at noatun07:44
ironfroggyi got an error running that dpkg-reconfigure command07:44
rcmndo u have kaffeine by any chance07:45
distantbadmiral i dont know where to begin07:45
ironfroggy'shared/defualt-x-server not set. Aborting'07:45
ironfroggywhat can i do about that?07:45
ghostshadow189what's kaffeine ?07:45
rcmn<ghostshadow189>i mean do u have to use noatun or juk07:45
ghostshadow189yes07:45
distantbwhats an easy way to install the  firefox07:45
ghostshadow189like i said , i try both of them07:46
ghostshadow189 installed juK and Noatun but both of them doesnt work . with juK , it couldnt play music . with Noatun , when it started it warned me : "Connecting/starting aRTs sound server failed . Make sure that artd is configured properly ."07:46
rcmnok i think it's just a configuration thing so it's better to pick the software u want to use07:46
rcmnthen we go from there07:46
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ghostshadow189what's software ?07:47
rcmn<ghostshadow1>well for audio noatun is not great07:47
Admiral_Chicagoghostshadow189: its a video player07:47
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Admiral_Chicagoalso, i don't think anyone has the answer to you question, maybe try the forums.07:47
ghostshadow189oh i've just read ubuntu's help , must i install multimedia codecs ?07:47
rcmn<ghostshadowno07:48
fateisajesterAdmiral_Chicago: will you come to #flood real quick please?07:48
Admiral_Chicagofateisajester: yes07:48
ghostshadow189oh :( , so what must i do now ?07:48
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rcmn<ghostshadow189> ok installing codecs is important too07:48
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ghostshadow189ok i'll try07:49
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Admiral_Chicagoghostshadow189: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs07:49
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ghostshadow189ok thanx , i'll try07:49
rcmn<ghostshadow189> but he doesn't have arts for noatun07:50
rcmnhe better go with amarok07:50
rcmnto play music07:50
ghostshadow189 sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs07:50
rcmnof any xine base07:50
ghostshadow189E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)07:50
ghostshadow189E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?07:50
distantbhttp://www.opensound.com/download.cgi07:50
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distantbwhich driver should i download07:50
ghostshadow189i got these erors07:50
rcmnclose adept07:51
Admiral_Chicagoghostshadow189: do you have adept or synaptic open?07:51
royjorolancheck if u open the Add/Remove Applications07:51
ghostshadow189oh , how to close adept :(07:51
royjorolanu should close it07:51
ghostshadow189and what's adept ?07:51
rcmnclose all u're application07:51
royjorolanthats the Add/Remove Programs in Windoze07:52
rcmnreboot07:52
rcmnlol07:52
ghostshadow189ah :D , ok07:52
ghostshadow189i closeed :D07:52
rcmncool07:52
ghostshadow189ok done07:52
rcmnwell try to use Amarok07:52
rcmnMultimedia/amarok07:53
rcmnin the menu07:53
ghostshadow189oh , i'll install amarok07:53
rcmnit's to play audio07:53
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rcmn<ghostshadow189>do you see it ?07:54
distantbi am trying to get an updated driver for soundcard , http://www.opensound.com/download.cgi which one should i get07:54
royjorolanhow can i browse my local network?07:55
ghostshadow189no07:55
ghostshadow189i'm installing amarok07:55
rcmnin the menu do you see multimedia ?07:55
rcmnok07:55
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Whiz2I'm having troubles formatting to different filesystem, and remounting drives (with automount enabled). Can someone help me?07:55
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rcmnbut amarok should come by default what version are u using ?07:55
ghostshadow189i'm using 607:56
rcmnversin of kubuntu ?07:56
Admiral_ChicagoWhiz2: paste your fstab please07:56
Admiral_Chicagoerr actually fdisk -l07:56
Whiz2uhhh... I can't. this is a windows system I'm using to get help07:56
ghostshadow189oh i'm using ubuntu , but in ubuntu , they're busy now :D07:56
royjorolanumount it frist07:56
rcmni see07:56
Whiz2they are already umounted07:57
rcmnok should work07:57
royjorolanWhiz2> fdisk -l07:57
Whiz2hang lemme see if I can access them as vfat if they are mounted...07:57
Admiral_ChicagoWhiz2: maybe you can email my team when you get on Linux, our page is chi.ubuntu-us.org07:57
Admiral_Chicagowait, are you on linux or not?07:57
rcmn<ghostshadow189>is it done ?07:57
Whiz2the linuxbox is connected to the net... hang on lemme get in here with that one07:58
Whiz2brb07:58
ghostshadow189oh the net connection is slowly now :D07:58
ghostshadow189wait me just a minute :D07:58
rcmn<ghostshadow189>i bet it will download all kde related pkg07:58
rcmn<ghostshadow189>darn07:58
royjorolanlocal area> SYSTEM MEnu-Local Places..07:58
rcmnu should of say it07:58
royjorolanerr. REmote Places07:58
rcmnwe could use a gnome related application07:59
rcmn<ghostshadow189>what amarok did u install ?08:02
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rcmnamarok-xine i hope08:02
rcmn<Admiral_Chicago> any idea on my dvd:// pbm08:03
Admiral_Chicagorcmn: repeat it please08:03
rcmnvlc /kaffein complain about a module for dvd:// so my guess is a module for the kernel08:04
rcmni change from 386 to k708:04
Admiral_Chicagorcmn: do you have AMD08:05
Healot!info libxine-extracodecs08:05
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB08:05
rcmnyep08:05
Healotdid that? rcmn ?08:05
ghostshadow189rcmn : i still cant play music with amaroK08:06
rcmnok did u install amarok-xine ?08:06
ghostshadow189i dont exactly , i just install amaroK from Add/Remove08:07
rcmnclose add remove08:07
ghostshadow189yes , i closed it08:07
rcmnin the promt sudo apt-get install amarok-xine08:07
ghostshadow189and then run amaroK08:07
Admiral_Chicagorcmn: i have no idea08:07
rcmni have  <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: installed08:08
Admiral_Chicago!forums > rcmn08:08
ghostshadow189rcmn :   sudo apt-get install amarok-xine08:08
ghostshadow189Password:08:08
ghostshadow189Reading package lists... Done08:08
ghostshadow189Building dependency tree... Done08:08
ghostshadow189amarok-xine is already the newest version.08:08
ghostshadow1890 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 32 not upgraded.08:08
ghostshadow189so i mean i installed correctly ?08:08
rcmny08:08
ghostshadow189but it still dont play08:09
ghostshadow189i open a .mp3 file , but it dont run08:09
Admiral_Chicagoghostshadow189: run alsamixer in konsole08:10
Admiral_Chicagomight be a volume control issue08:10
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rcmntry the file Amarok 1.4 welcome08:10
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rcmnin the Files08:10
rcmntab on the left08:10
whiz2ok now I'm in Linux08:10
rcmnit's an ogg08:11
ghostshadow189Admiral_Chicago ; i ran08:11
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Admiral_Chicagoand are the bars all the way up?08:11
Admiral_Chicagoor is anything muted?08:11
rcmnhe has 3 sound card08:11
Admiral_Chicagothat may be the problem08:12
ghostshadow189yes , they way up08:12
Admiral_Chicagoyou can post on the forums...08:12
ghostshadow189PCM , Front ....08:12
Admiral_Chicagoi really can't answer all your question, i don't know that much08:12
ghostshadow189i posted http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27226108:12
Admiral_Chicagothe forums has great support08:12
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whiz2ok I'm back, and I need assistance with my previous question... I'm having problems formatting drives to vfat, then mounting them (with automount enabled)08:14
ghostshadow189what's ur prob , whiz2 ?08:15
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whiz2the problem is that I dunno if I'm even doing any of this right, because I'll format them, then mount them, then reboot, and they are notlonger mounted08:15
whiz2I was just inhere a few mins ago using a Win32 system... I'm in linux now08:16
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royjorolanr u using ntfs?08:17
whiz2that's the previous filesystem. I'm trying to make them vfat (fat32) now08:18
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jack_how to add a menu entry by hand? kmenuedit crash with edgy08:18
ranjani have an HP Pavilion dv5000us laptop, should i get edgy beta?08:18
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whiz2the original filesystem I was using was NTFS, but I'm trying to change it to FAT3208:19
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whiz2can someone help me?08:22
Torchedyes08:22
Torchedhis name is Dr Feldman08:22
Torchedhe's a special kind of 'talking' doctor08:22
ghostshadow189sure , i can change ur ntfs to fat3208:22
Torcheddude, i can change his windows theme to classic08:22
whiz2I can do that too, but in Linux, I dunno anything about formatting...08:23
ghostshadow189fdisk08:23
ghostshadow189or cfdisk08:23
Torcheddid you want to keep the information on the partition?08:23
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ZeeToohello] 08:23
whiz2according to fdisk, the drives are already set for W95 FAT32 (LBA), but when I go to format them, then mount them, they don't stay mounted after reboot08:24
Torchedno thanks ZeeToo08:24
whiz2No08:24
whiz2I want it gone08:24
ZeeTooanyone can tell me how can i use oidentd thingie, when i connect to x-chat it changes automatically my ident, this is my first question and my second one is how can I remove ~ (identd) from whois ?08:24
whiz2and I dunno if the format even worked right08:24
krautmoin08:25
ZeeTooanyone can help me please ?08:25
ghostshadow189whiz2 : try fdisk or cfdisk in termianl08:26
Ademanmy printer pushes everything over to one side and stuff gets cut off, whats the deal?08:26
whiz2cfdisk says hdb1 primary W95 FAT32 (LBA)08:26
Torchedprint margins are too big Ademan08:26
whiz2that's what I want, but it doesn't stay mounted.08:27
AdemanTorched: how would I change that?08:27
Torchedgot a screwdriver handy?08:27
AdemanTorched: heh08:27
Ademanor were you serious?08:27
Torchedi was serious08:27
Ademanthere's no command line parameter or something?08:28
ghostshadow189whiz2 ; so it's the 2nd hdd ? u're using linux on what hdd ?08:28
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Torchedto make a screwdriver?08:28
Torchedno08:28
Ademan...08:28
Ademanlol08:28
Torchedthey're computers not matter machines08:28
whiz2ok I rewrote the partition table again for fat32... now how do I format the partition?08:28
Ademanto offset what's being printed08:28
Torchedno clue08:28
Torchedi usually just jam a screwdriver in there08:29
Ademanthis problem doesnt exist when printing from the same machine on the same printer on windows, so I would hope it could be resolved through software08:29
whiz2if that's the case Ademan, it should be a software issue08:29
Ademanwhiz2: yeah, there's no "offset" parameter for print is there?08:29
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whiz2not sure... I don't even have a printer for this machine08:30
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marcondesTESTE08:31
marcondesRS08:31
marcondesTESTE08:31
Ademanwhiz2: neither do I, this is for my kubuntu box in the kitchen08:31
Ademani'm on ubuntu right now :-p08:31
marcondeswhatta hell?08:32
whiz2Ademan: the only machines I have with printers in this house are windows 9X/XP systems lol08:32
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marcondes???????08:33
marcondesi'm learning this08:33
marcondeshow to send a  message to somebody?08:34
whiz2we are reading your mesages08:34
whiz2butto send to a person in the list to your right, right click thier name in the list, and choose "Send single message"08:34
marcondesok08:36
marcondesi understand08:36
Ademan /msg somebody hello this is my message08:36
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whiz2or you could do that lol08:36
marcondeslet me check08:36
Jucatobut you would need to be registered to do that08:36
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whiz2ghostshadow189: The partition is created... how do I format it?08:37
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Ademanwhiz2: are you using *parted ?08:37
whiz2to partition?08:38
Ademanyep08:38
whiz2sudo cfdisk08:38
marcondessomebody knows "coroas"?08:38
whiz2it's already partitioned08:38
Ademanwhat are you trying to do ?08:38
whiz2I just need to figure out how to format the partition, and mount it so that it stays mouinted when I reboot08:38
whiz2and I wanna label it toolol08:39
Ademanyou could add it to .bashrc08:39
ghostshadow189whiz2 : mke2fs08:39
Ademanwhiz2: startup qparted and format it to whatever fs you want08:39
whiz2how do I start that?08:40
whiz2That's GUI right?08:40
marcondeshello everybody, thanks08:40
marcondesim going...08:40
Ademanwhiz2: open up adept and make sure its installed (package name should be qparted) if not, install it08:40
Ademani got the package name wrong btw08:41
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whiz2ok what is it?08:42
Ademanits08:42
Ademanqtparted08:42
Ademanlol08:42
Ademanso close08:42
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whiz2lol ok08:42
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Ademanis it installed? and do you know how to install packages?08:43
whiz2is it for KDE?08:44
whiz2and what type would it be?08:44
whiz2I know how to install packages.08:44
Ademanis which for kde?08:44
Ademanqtparted?08:44
Ademanyes08:44
Ademangparted is the GNOME version08:44
Ademanqt is what kde uses for its widgets08:45
Ademangtk+ is what GNOME uses for its widgets08:45
whiz2what type of widget is it?08:45
whiz2settings, utility, etc08:45
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Jucatowidgets = control boxes, tabs, buttons, sliders, scrollbars, etc08:46
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whiz2Ademan: I found it08:47
Ademancool, just fyi you can type in the package name and it will auto-seek to it :-)08:47
whiz2ok08:47
Ademaninstall it if its not already installed08:47
whiz2already getting it08:47
Ademangood08:47
Ademanfire it up once you've got it08:47
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whiz2will it help with mounting them afterwards too?08:48
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Ademanwhiz2: no, just formating and partitioning08:52
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Torched!porn08:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about porn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:53
Torchedfucking useless08:53
Torcheddebian has porn08:53
Jucato!language08:53
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.08:53
Torched!language08:53
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flaccidhaha08:54
Torchedsomeone accidently kicked me08:54
Torchedthat's ok, i forgive you08:54
Jucato:)08:54
whiz2uh oh...08:54
Healot!find porn08:55
ubotuFound: pornview08:55
Jucatolol08:55
Healotduh08:55
Healot!info pornview08:56
ubotupornview: Image and movie viewer/manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2pre1-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 200 kB, installed size 608 kB08:56
whiz2Ademan: qtpart has stopped responding... I was having it create a new partition fat32, and it stopped responding... this is not the "commit" stage though08:56
Riddellwhiz2: use gparted if you're having problems with qtparted08:58
whiz2might be an issue with the drive itself...08:59
whiz2rebooting... bbs08:59
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whiz2lol09:00
whiz2bbs09:00
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RiddellAdeman: why?09:00
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Ademanno lockups ever with GNOME, experienced several with KDE, on top of that adept is very flaky09:01
Ademani enjoy kde, a lot of thigns feel more polished09:01
Ademanbut GNOME suits me better09:01
Ademanbut i've set my mother up with kubuntu on her computer and it serves her well09:01
Ademanshe's actually the one having the printer problems09:02
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sakitelcacti??09:02
Whiz2good thing I have another computer right next to that one lol09:02
sakitelproblem when i tried to install cacti...09:02
Jucatoqtparted isn't really a KDE app, irc. it's a Qt app, but not KDE09:02
Dinki used the qtparted live cd09:03
AdemanJucato: but kde is built on QT09:03
Ademanwhich reminds me09:04
JucatoAdeman: but it doesn't mean that all Qt apps are KDE apps. Opera is based on Qt09:04
Ademani want that greenphone from trolltech09:04
Jucatoand so is Scribus, iirc09:04
AdemanJucato: I wasn't saying that a qt app is a KDE app, just like a gtk+ app isnt necessarily a GNOME app09:04
Ademanbut I was more implying that the problems i've experienced are probably more a result of Qt than the design of KDE itself09:04
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Jucatosorry I didn't see the implication. I just saw the jump from "qtparted locked up" to "which reminds me why I use GNOME"09:05
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tgahey09:09
tgaanything wrong with kubuntu-desktop in Dapper or do I just have a confused system?09:09
AdemanJucato: i didn't really specify, but hey, *I* knew what i was talking about :-p09:09
Jucato:)09:09
Whiz2Is there a way that I can check the disk for errors?09:09
Ademantga: what do you mean?09:09
Ademanfsck?09:09
tga  kubuntu-desktop: Depends: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins but it is not going to be installed09:09
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Ademantga: why do you want kde anyways? :-p09:10
Jucatohm...09:10
tgaMac-style menu bars :)09:10
Ademan???.....09:10
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tgaso?09:11
Ademantga: menu bars? as in the top and bottom things? or the things on top of windows? i've heard both reffered to as menu bars09:11
Whiz2Ademan: Interesting issue... qtparted worked perfectly fine to format the first ofthe 2 drives, but keeps freezing on the 2nd... grr09:11
JucatoAdeman: Mac-style top menu bars, you haven't seen those?09:12
tgaAdeman, as in the bars on which you can find an application's menus09:12
tgaI only want one, not one for each app09:12
tgaGnome doesn't swing that way afaict09:12
Whiz2ooh! I've seen those! I use it on kubuntu09:12
Ademantga: wow, thats the exact reason I hate OSX but hey, whatever floats your boat09:12
Ademananywho09:12
noiesmofor kde could you not just do sudo apt-get install kde kdebase kdelibs09:13
JucatoAdeman: let's not turn #kubuntu into a "defend why you chose to use KDE" channel :P09:13
noiesmotga, for kde could you not just do sudo apt-get install kde kdebase kdelibs09:13
tgait takes a bit of getting used to it but after switching back you can tell the diff09:13
AdemanWhiz2: I keep typing Quiz for whatever brain damaged reason, anyways, try gparted as someone else said09:13
tganoiesmo,   kde: Depends: kdegraphics but it is not going to be installed09:13
Jucatotga: you have the main repositories enabled?09:14
tgayeah, main universe multiverse09:14
JucatoWhiz2: are you sure that the drive/partition that you are formatting is unmounted?09:14
AdemanJucato: Sorry, Its just that really does bug me, i mean, the whole idea is that every application has its own menu bar, and to "globalize it" even though its context sensitive (sensitive to which window is top level) it totally bastardises the idea of having individual menu bars09:14
Whiz2Yes. when I type umount for that drive/partition, it tells me it is not mounted09:15
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tgaI should probably just do a clean install, this machine was originally running Warty09:15
JucatoI'm not a fan of it either. but it unique, so it's good :P09:15
Jucatotga: hm.. might be a good idea09:15
AdemanI suppose having the OPTION to do that is nice09:15
Whiz2it can create a fat16 partition no problem on the same drive (half the full drive) but when I make fat32 (full drive) it freezes on me09:15
noiesmotga, would be good otherwise you'll need to add and remove apps to sort dependencies09:15
AdemanWhiz2:  what's the fat32 partition for anyways?09:16
Jucatohm... how large is the 2nd drive you're trying to formaqt as FAT32 Whiz2?09:16
Whiz2I'm formatting 2 drives for use as storage across a network.09:17
noiesmoWhiz2, are you going to run samba on system with drives09:17
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AdemanWhiz2: if you're sharing them on a network the other computers don't know or care what the internal file system is and you should just use ext309:17
Whiz2the 2nd drive is small (2GB) for documents, and such.09:17
Whiz2Samba is setup09:17
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noiesmoWhiz2, just use ext3 or linux file system09:18
michael___How do I install the entire gnome gdm?09:18
michael___what repo is it?09:18
tgafat32 is good to share files between Ubuntu and Win09:18
Whiz2and if I later decide I wanna change my OS for this machine? How would I get the files?09:18
Ademantga: but this is across a network...09:18
Jucatomichael___: it's in main. the name is gdm09:18
tgafat32 is good to share files between Ubuntu and Win on the same machine09:18
Jucato!gdm09:18
ubotugdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.10-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1681 kB, installed size 11588 kB09:18
Healottga, tried ext2 IFS yet?09:18
AdemanWhiz: there's a way on windows ext2fs i believe, hold on09:18
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tgalast time I tried to do that it was buggy as hell09:19
noiesmoWhiz2, you can get a ext3 explorer for windows systems09:19
Healotit is stable now09:19
tgathat's good to hear09:19
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AdemanWhiz2: http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html09:19
Healottga, or get Symantec Partition Magic :)09:19
noiesmoAdeman, thats it09:19
michael___Jucato: so I just instal gdm package ??09:19
Ademantga: yeah me too.... but don't tell him that09:19
Whiz2I'm going to try something on a hunch...09:19
Jucatomichael___: what are you trying to do? gdm is *not* GNOME itself, btw09:19
Healotmichael__: if you have ubuntu desktop isntall, no need to resintall gdm09:20
Jucatogdm just takes care of the login screen, that's all09:20
michael___all i had was a kde ubuntu cd09:20
michael___i want gnome also09:20
Healotif you have isntalled the server way, you need "ubuntu-desktop"09:20
Healotubuntu-desktop is the package you need, michael__09:20
Jucatomichael___: ah, you might want to just install "ubuntu-desktop" then09:20
Jucatoor what Healot said :P09:20
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michael___ok, thanks09:21
Whiz2guess it's not fat32 compatible... I made 2 fat16 parts on it instead09:21
michael___then i gotta install windows in a virtual machine b4 tomorrow :P09:21
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tgafat16 wha?09:21
Whiz2I'd rather keep it readable if I have to change my OS on the kubuntu machine09:21
michael___thanks all\09:22
michael___well, thanks Jucato09:22
michael___good night all09:22
AdemanWhiz2: wow fat16? seriously dude, ext3, there's no good reason to use fat16 EVER unless you plan on running dos...09:23
Whiz2now I have another problem.09:23
tgahe did say 'change the OS' :)09:23
tgabetter keep all options open09:23
Whiz2umm... I dunno any windows system that can read ext3... if I need to unexpectedly change the operating system to windows, then I want to ahve access to the files09:24
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tgaWhiz2, see above09:24
ziabicere all09:24
Whiz2at least someone agrees with me09:24
Whiz2thanks tag09:24
Whiz2tga09:24
Ademanyes limiting partitions to 2 Gb sure keeps options open :-)09:25
tgafat32 is decent if you don't mind the possibility of losing all your data09:25
Whiz2my other problem is how to mount all the newly formatted drives so that they stay mounted if I reboot...?09:25
tgabut then again, you of course have backups09:25
noiesmoWhiz2, your right do what you want its all good its just most off use would prob just use a live cd to get bak data09:25
tgaWhiz2, you add them to /etc/fstab09:25
noiesmoWhiz2, edit /etc/fstab09:25
AdemanWhiz2: ext2fs, it allows you to read ext3 partitions, do it09:26
Whiz2hang on...09:26
tgaAdeman, does it mount them or just copy files?09:26
Ademantga: mount iirc, but i havent used it enough to really say09:26
Whiz2brb09:26
Ademanjust enough to know it works to my satisfaction09:27
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whiz2ok now say that again Ademan09:27
Ademanext2fs http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html  allows you to access your ext3 partitions through windows09:27
Ademanand honestly, there's no good reason NOT to use ext3, you should be using a journaling file system one way or another09:28
tgado you get a journal when mounting ext3 on Windows?09:28
whiz2I should download that for windows?09:28
Jucatono they should make it possible to install Linux on NTFS :P09:28
whiz2lol09:29
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HealotNTFS is a trade secret; Microsoft haven't charge royalty on Linux kernel yet :-09:30
Healotthey might do that in th future09:30
Healotthe best way is stay away from Microsoft patented filesystems09:30
tgacan you patent something after other people have started using it too?09:30
Jucatoit's a trade secret because they don't want people to have solid proof of how krappy it is?09:30
Jucatotga: I guess so, as long as you could prove that you came up with it first?09:31
HealotJucato, crappy or not, respect patents please... i don't give a damn about NTFS performance09:31
tgaJucato, don't think I like that09:31
whiz2well I have linux on here, because windows won't fit on the system drive09:31
tgaa-ha! Windows CD09:31
JucatoHealot: it was supposed to be a joke (installing Linux on NTFS)09:32
tgacheers09:32
Healotnah nvm09:32
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whiz2Ademan: That utility appears to only have support for ext2 filesystem09:34
Ademanwhiz2: ext3 is just ext2 with journaling09:34
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whiz2I hope it works if I need it...09:35
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Healotif you like to spend money, get Symantec Partition Magic09:37
whiz2I have no income whatsoever09:37
whiz2I'm disabled, and can not work. :-(09:37
Healotyou can browser/copy/move/delete file safely from NTFS/ext2/3 filesystems safely hehe09:37
Ademanwhiz2: just fyi i've used it to read my ext3 partition09:38
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whiz2What's the syntax in fstab for giving a drive read/write/execute access for all users?09:41
admin__hi09:41
Healotrw in the options field09:42
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whiz2wjhat about umask?09:42
Healotumask option might be needed as mount requires and uses root access09:42
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whiz2no i mean what value should it be? 000 or 777?09:43
Healotwhiz2, depends on what you are going to do?09:43
Healotyou want ALL user to write/read/execute?09:43
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whiz2Yes09:44
Healotumask=0000 then, will produce permission 7777 - world-writable permission :)09:44
Healotsorry 677709:44
whiz2only has 3 digits09:44
whiz2777 it is09:45
Healotwhiz2, umask need inverse octal09:45
whiz2so change 000 to 0777?09:45
Healotok09:45
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whiz2I take that as a yes09:46
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Healotlisten, if you want permission on that mount point to be 777 (worldw-writable)09:46
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Healotumask with 00009:46
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whiz2you said 0777 a moment ago09:46
maryenanyone else here running edgy on an smp kernel?09:47
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maryenaka the general kernel09:47
Healotwhiz2, yeah you can include the first 0 if you want to...09:47
whiz2umask=00009:47
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Healot umask=0000 then, will produce permission 6777; umask inverse the permission octals09:48
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maryeni take the silence means no09:48
whiz2basically it's backwards09:48
whiz2maryen: my answer is no09:48
Healotinverse is the term :009:48
Healotno, i'm still using dapper09:49
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maryeni switched after dapper messed up bad on me09:49
Healotand I don't have a two or dual core processors09:49
maryeni wasn't able to compile stuff anymore for some reason x.X09:49
whiz2now I reboot?09:49
Healotwhiz2, just remount; sudo umount -a && sudo mount -a09:50
maryenyou should try edgy healot09:50
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maryenpretty stable with the exception of the install09:51
Healotmaryen, i am not a beta tester :)09:51
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Healotonly use stable release, since i have no toy machine09:51
maryeneh im using this as production09:51
maryeneven though i shouldnt09:51
maryenlol09:51
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whiz2"Can not find ext on /dev/hdb1 (and /dev/hdc1) or bad superblock"09:52
Acidic32ok adept is messed up09:52
whiz2ext3*09:52
JucatoAcidic32: how messed up?09:53
Acidic32i click FULL upgrade, but it dont do anything, yet i see packages which can be upgraded.09:53
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linuxsuxazzhi09:53
whiz2I'm rebooting09:53
linuxsuxazzthe09:53
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JucatoAcidic32: you have to click on Apply Changes09:53
linuxsuxazzsux09:53
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Acidic32apply isnt clickable09:53
maryenhuh09:53
JucatoAcidic32: click on Preview Changes to check that nothing will be broken?09:53
maryenlinux, you a joke account?09:54
Acidic32its empty09:54
linuxsuxazzno09:54
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Acidic32linuxsuxazz: can u stop pressing enter after every word?09:55
Jucatohm.. that's strange09:55
maryenstop that, its annoying09:55
linuxsuxazzok i will press enter after ever letter09:55
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maryenjust use apt acidic09:55
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linuxsuxazzt09:55
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linuxsuxazzt09:55
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maryenmight tell you whats wrong09:55
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Acidic32linuxsuxazz: you join the group of useless people that need to get a life09:55
sF|Xemanthlinuxsuxazz: stfu09:55
linuxsuxazzi have a life09:55
maryen!mods09:56
linuxsuxazzi fuck my girlfriend ever night09:56
linuxsuxazzyou09:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mods - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:56
linuxsuxazzdon't have a girlfrind09:56
maryen!mod09:56
linuxsuxazzso u fuck ur pillow09:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:56
linuxsuxazzbitch09:56
maryen!ops09:56
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind or trappist09:56
Jucato!ops09:56
Acidic32linuxsuxazz: just /part please09:56
maryenhehe i beat you jucato09:56
Jucatolol09:56
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maryen!ubotu09:56
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage09:56
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maryen!botsnack09:56
ubotuYum!09:56
linuxsuxazz!ubuntu09:56
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome09:56
linuxsuxazz!rm09:57
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands09:57
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linuxsuxazz!fdisk09:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:57
linuxsuxazz!fork bomb09:57
maryengparted is better09:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fork bomb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:57
Jucato!botabuse > linuxsuxazz09:57
maryenor qtparted09:57
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Acidic32linuxsuxazz: i am married, i have 2 kids, i live in a 5 bedroom house, i got a 5 acre field, and a Mitsubushi L200 Warrior pickup truck09:57
linuxsuxazz!botabues > JUcato09:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botabues - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:57
Acidic32linuxsuxazz: more than you? :)09:58
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Jucatoyay thanks Riddell!!09:58
Whiz2I think someone is a bit cranky09:58
Acidic32thanks riddell09:58
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cpk2can kaffeine play .bin?09:58
matthehi all09:58
maryenguh my battery is just about to run out09:58
Jucatohe's been trolling in #kde too09:58
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maryenhas he?09:58
maryencool09:58
Acidic32im trying to get in to programming KDE Programs09:58
mabreauxQuick question: Can anyone recommend a book on Kubuntu?09:59
Whiz2he got the boot09:59
Acidic32dont know where to start tho09:59
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JucatoI would have given him more than a boot :P09:59
maryenmabreux, theres the official ubuntu book10:00
maryenbut thats about ubuntu10:00
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mabreauxis there anything on Kubuntu?10:00
Whiz2ok now I have 2 disks that won't work, and a linux installation that won't boot because of it10:00
Jucatonot really. no book on Kubuntu... suxxorz... :(10:00
maryenwell there are wikis10:00
maryenwhat do you wanna know though10:00
mabreauxbummer10:00
noiesmomabreaux, kubuntu is pretty much just kde not gnome maybe a book on kde10:00
Jucatowell...10:00
Whiz2I'm getting aweefully frustrated10:01
maryeneveryone here is helpful, with the exception of that last guy10:01
unix_infidelany freenode ops in here?10:01
mabreauxworking on wireless pcmcia card (boardcom)10:01
Whiz2you mean the guy that got kicked?10:01
maryenya10:01
Riddellunix_infidel: /stats p10:01
maryenbroadcom card is easy to handle10:01
Whiz2well I kinda need more help lol10:01
unix_infidelRiddell: i hate to say this in here, but we've got a problem in ##dinwos.10:01
unix_infidelerm, ##windows.10:01
Riddellmaryen: official ubuntu book covers kubuntu10:02
Jucatodinwos? hehehe10:02
unix_infidelRiddell: ahh, taken care of :)10:02
maryenhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper10:02
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maryenit does?10:02
unix_infidelRiddell: thanks anyway :)10:02
Jucatounix_infidel: who was it? linuxsuxazz?10:02
maryenthere is a guide for your wireless card mabreaux10:02
cpk2maryen: kubuntu IS ubuntu10:02
unix_infidelJucato: some tor user.10:02
Jucatoah10:02
maryenkubuntu is ubuntu with less love10:02
mabreauxis does....  Just how different is ubuntu for kubuntu, I know one is gnome and the other is kde but what else?10:02
Jucatosomeone got kicked here too10:02
noiesmomabreaux, thats it10:03
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Jucatomaryen: not really. Riddell gives Kubuntu lots and lots of love :)10:03
cpk2mabreaux: thats all10:03
Riddellmabreaux: that's the only difference10:03
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Whiz2supposedly formatted /dev/hdb1 and /dev/hdc1 as ext then changed fstab to reflect that, but now on reboot, I get errors that say the filesystems on those 2 disks are bad, or there's an issue with the superblocks, and it won't boot, but left me at a shell promompt10:03
mabreauxwhere is the guild on wireless?10:03
Jucatomabreaux: nothing more :)10:03
maryenits practically the same just different DEs10:03
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Jucatoguild?10:03
Whiz2ext310:03
maryenhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper here mabreaux10:03
mabreauxDEs?10:03
maryendesktop environments10:03
mabreauxthank you for the links...10:04
Whiz2can someon help me fix this problem?10:04
noiesmomabreaux, depends on which network app have a look here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper10:04
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maryenhes got a broadcom card10:04
noiesmomaryen, k10:04
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Whiz2Umm... help... please?10:05
maryenjucato: i really would like to see some of the polish ubuntu has in kubuntu10:05
maryenwhat problem whiz210:06
Whiz2supposedly formatted /dev/hdb1 and /dev/hdc1 as ext then changed fstab to reflect that, but now on reboot, I get errors that say the filesystems on those 2 disks are bad, or there's an issue with the superblocks, and it won't boot, but left me at a shell promompt10:06
Whiz2ext310:06
Jucatomaryen: could you qualify "polish"?10:06
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magical_trevskyhi. I updated my system last night, and now amarok can't play flac files.. any ideas how to fix this?10:06
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magical_trevskyit says there is no audio channel to play10:06
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Whiz2maryen: I've been having problems formatting these drives for HOURS10:07
gnomefreakjust cleaning bans ;)10:07
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maryenjucato: basically the same level of completeness as SuSE, but without the huge amount of bloat10:07
Jucatoah "removes"10:07
maryenhmm10:07
Jucatomaryen: we need more developers. care to help? :)10:07
maryenonce i learn to program i would love to10:07
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Whiz2maryen: and now I had them (supposedly) formatted as ext3, but I'm getting superblock errors, and linux refuses to boot now10:07
Jucatomaryen: there are more ways to contribute than just programming, though :)10:07
maryeni've never had problems with formatting on linux whiz2 so i couldn't help you10:08
maryenjucato: beta tester?10:08
Jucatomaryen: let me find a link/page10:08
mabreauxdoes any know of a voice dictation program for linux?10:08
Whiz2ok nevermind... gonna simply start fresh with a new installation of Linux, and start all over... maybe that way I can get them to work right...10:09
maryeni dont think so mabreaux10:09
mabreauxbummer10:09
maryentheres programs that read the stuff for you, but no oral commands as far as I know10:10
maryeni could be wrong though10:10
mabreauxI know IBM was working a via voice for linux but I do not think anything came of it10:10
gnomefreakmaryen: testing but it involves more of filing bugs, you can triage bugs, helping in IRC helping in forums helping with wikis editing,building and a bunch more ways10:10
Jucatomaryen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HelpingKubuntu10:10
gnomefreakmaryen: we also concider teling Jucato off as helping ;) j/k10:11
maryenlol10:11
Jucatoheh10:11
magical_trevskynvm my problem, downgrading libxine fixed it :)10:11
maryenok i g2g to bed10:11
maryennite guys10:11
gnomefreaknite10:11
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cpk2guys is there a way to get kaffeine to play .bin? (mplayer can do it but i prefer to stick to just one movie player)10:12
Jucatocpk2: I'm not sure it can :(10:13
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cpk2well boo10:13
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gnomefreakpost a .bin you want to play in kaffine and ill download it and try it but im thinking chances are slim10:13
gnomefreakplus its just after 4am here :(10:14
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Jucatoheh you're an early bird gnomefreak :)10:15
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gnomefreaknormally 5am not this early10:15
cpk2gnomefreak: its a bin leftover from windows, so cant really post it10:15
gnomefreakand i have to go out early today. stopping by my shop and throwing tires on car10:15
cpk2being 700mB and all10:15
gnomefreakcpk2: i doubt youll be playing it10:16
gnomefreakmplayer has most codecs installed so it shouldnt have much issues10:16
cpk2gnomefreak: mplayer does it out of the box, just wanted kaffeine to do it out of simplicity for myself10:16
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gnomefreakmpby default plays just about everything out of box others you have to install and configure it too if there is a config option10:17
mabreauxgoodnight all10:17
Jucatoheh there's an .mkv file that won't play in anything except mplayer...10:17
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cpk2Jucato: really? i just tested a .mkv on kaffeine and it worked i think10:18
cpk2that or I am tired and confused10:18
JucatoI guess it depends on what was used to make the .mkv file. .mkv is just a container/wrapper10:19
noiesmoJucato, sorry dude vlc will play mkv or mastroka10:19
Jucatoer yeah VLC played it too, but it was distorted10:19
noiesmoanyhow that doesnt help cpk2 get bin playing on kaffeine10:20
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cpk2i guess I should just be thankful it works on mplayer10:21
cpk2kinda strange mplayer can do it and kaffeine cant though10:21
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charlie5hello ... does anyone use a netcomm modem for broadband ?10:25
charlie5a CHAP authorisation fail ... would that mean a bad username/password combo ?10:31
cpk2does ls show links?10:32
Jucatocpk2: you mean symlink?10:32
cpk2ummm yes? I am trying to figure out where a file links to10:32
Jucatoyes it will show. use "ls -l"10:32
cpk2hrmm i guess that file was linked then =P10:33
cpk2wasnt*10:34
cpk2azureus is driving me up a wall10:34
Jucatoyou installed Sun Java?10:35
cpk2yes10:35
cpk2you want to hear the whole story?10:35
Jucatohm.. ok10:35
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cpk2"azplugins" cant update because I dont have permission in ~/.azureus/plugins/azplugins/azplugins_2.1.1.jar10:36
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cpk2also the gui dies if i try to view the files in a torrent from within azureus10:36
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cpk2azureus doesnt die10:36
Jucatohm.. are you supposed to be able to update those plugins in the first place?10:36
cpk2just the gui is unusable10:36
cpk2its an autoupdate thing so i would think yes?10:36
Jucatowell, you're not able to use Firefox's autoupdate right? so maybe the same thing in azureus?10:37
cpk2oh, i havent tried using firefox heh10:38
Jucatoheh10:38
cpk2i dont get why I dont have permision in home though10:38
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cpk2i guess maybe someone who uses azureus will come in and see me griping about it one day10:41
cpk2or maybe the repo will be updated10:41
Jucatohopefully :)10:41
cpk2azureus is at 2.5 and the repo at 2.3 =(10:42
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noiesmocpk2, have you tried bittornado-gui i find it quite good10:42
Jucatoor ktorrent10:42
cpk2<--- stuck in his ways10:43
noiesmonever liked ktorrent10:43
noiesmoyou can say that again10:43
noiesmohaha10:43
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cpk2same reason why i have kubuntu not gnome10:43
cpk2I use kde and dont want change =P10:44
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noiesmocpk2, I use kde wouldn't change at this stage but if I need an app and its gnome/gtk based so what install it use it10:44
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damianohello10:56
damianois there anybody?10:56
cpk2nope10:56
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Jucatono one here but us ghosts10:56
damiano:)10:57
damianokubuntu has a bug10:57
Jucatoit has lots :P10:57
damianoi have installed any package to run apache php and mysql10:57
damianoapache2 apache2-common apache2-utils libapache2-mod-auth-mysql libapache2-mod-auth-pam libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql libapache2-mod-auth-plain libapache2-mod-php5 libapache2-mod-security libapache2-mod-fastcgi php5 php5-common php5-gd php5-mysql php5-mysqli php5-odbc php5-pgsql php5-xmlrpc php5-sqlite php5-mcrypt php5-ps php5-gd php4-domxml mysql-client-5.0 mysql-server-5.0 mysql-admin mysql-admin-common10:57
damianobut php is not installed!! Why?10:58
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damianoApache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) Server at 127.0.0.1 Port 8010:58
damianophp not found, why?10:58
Jucatobecause php5 is already installed?10:58
Jucato!php510:58
ubotuphp5: server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package). In component main, is optional. Version 5.1.2-1ubuntu3.2 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB10:58
damianono10:59
damianodamiano@damiano:~$ whereis php10:59
damianophp:10:59
damianodamiano@damiano:~$10:59
noiesmodamiano, check /etc/php510:59
noiesmodamiano, also check in apache conf if mysql.so is not commented out10:59
damianoops yes exist10:59
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damianowhere is apache config?11:00
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noiesmodamiano, /etc/apache2/11:01
rampage where can i find new fronts ???11:01
damianoops11:01
damiano# This is here for backwards compatability reasons and to support11:01
damiano#  installing 3rd party modules directly via apxs2, rather than11:01
damiano#  through the /etc/apache2/mods-{available,enabled} mechanism.11:01
damiano#11:01
damiano#LoadModule mod_placeholder /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_placeholder.so11:01
Jucatodamiano: please don't flood11:02
damianothis is my httpd.conf11:02
Jucato!pastebin11:02
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:02
damianosorry11:02
Jucatouse that instead ^^^^11:02
noiesmodamiano, apache2 is a little diff to apache 1.311:02
rampagewhere can i find new fronts ???11:02
noiesmodamiano, check the files in sites-enabled and sites-available folders in the /etc/apache2 folder and RTFM11:02
rampage  where can i find new fronts ???11:03
damianoi have apache2.conf11:03
damianois this?11:03
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noiesmodamiano, check the files in sites-enabled and sites-available folders in the /etc/apache2 folder you should have default11:03
noiesmodamiano, /etc/apache2/sites-available/default11:04
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damianook11:04
noiesmodamiano, /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/default11:04
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noiesmorampage, have you got sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts11:05
wildchildHow do I check how much space do I have on HD11:05
noiesmowildchild, df -h11:05
damianohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25793/ (avalaible)11:06
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noiesmodamiano, so at mo the /var/www folder is your website space11:07
rampage yea11:07
damianohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25794/ (enable)11:07
damianoyes i have undestand but php module is not load11:07
Acidic32-how do i get X Libarys and headers?11:08
damianoapache is running11:08
damianobut php no!11:08
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flaccidi just sudo apt-get install ubuntu-dekstop and now both gdm and kdm run on startup11:09
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damianowhy?11:10
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Jucatohm.. that's not possible afaik?11:10
flaccidwhat file chooses the login manager?11:11
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Jucatohm.. let me search my memory....11:11
noiesmosomewhere in your apache2.conf (or in your conf.d/php.ini) file find ;extension=php_mysql.so so this become extension=php_mysql.so11:11
noiesmodamiano, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^11:11
charlie5anyone know how to setup ip filters to allow d/l via ktorrent ?11:11
Jucatosome x* file...11:11
damiano?11:11
flaccid!gdm11:11
ubotugdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.10-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1681 kB, installed size 11588 kB11:11
flaccid!kdm11:11
ubotukdm: X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 600 kB, installed size 1468 kB11:11
flaccid!loginmanager11:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about loginmanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:12
flaccidhmm11:12
gijsdamiano, is php5.conf and php5.load present in the /etc/apache2/mods-enabled and /etc/apache2/mods-available dirs?11:12
noiesmocharlie5, install firestarter its great for that nice gui11:12
flaccidanyone know where to start11:12
damianohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25793/ (avalaible)11:12
Jucatorawr I know I've seen it before...11:12
damianohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25794/ (enable)11:12
damianoops11:13
damianoone moment11:13
charlie5noiesmo: i think my modem (netcomm) has an inbuilt firewall i have to use ?11:13
damianodamiano@damiano:/etc/apache2/mods-enabled$ dir11:13
damianocgi.load  fastcgi.conf  fastcgi.load  userdir.conf  userdir.load11:13
damianodamiano@damiano:/etc/apache2/mods-enabled$11:13
damianoin /etc/apache2/mods-available11:14
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damianois present php5.conf11:14
damianophp5.load11:14
damianophp5.conf11:14
damianoright^11:14
damianoLoadModule php5_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so11:15
Acidic32-how do i get X Libarys and headers?11:15
damianoin php5.load11:15
damianoso why php is not runnnnnnn!!!!?!?11:15
noiesmocharlie5, normally point web browser at 10.0.0.1 or maybe 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.0.50 check manual for moden should have web iface11:16
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JucatoAcidic32: xorg-dev ?11:17
charlie5noiesmo: thanks, i have found the modem config page ... but i don;t understand the settings, or what to add to allow ktorrent traffic (upload is ok ... d/l is blocked)11:17
Acidic32i installed that11:17
Jucatoxserver-xorg-dev?11:17
damianonoiesmo are you here?11:17
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damianoi restart11:18
Acidic32!adept-crash-fix11:19
ubotuIf adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'11:19
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noiesmocharlie5, normally torrent is port 6881-6889 so you would need to forward those ports to the machine running ktorrent11:19
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noiesmocharlie5, then on machine running ktorrent open firewall ports also11:20
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charlie5noiesmo: ok, thank you very much ... i will see if i can set that up in the modem firewall config11:23
buzzy-do you know gnormalize? is it good?11:23
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godfatherguys g'day11:25
godfatheri'd like to know11:25
godfatherif kubuntu is stable and strong like ubuntu11:25
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godfathersomeone tells me that it isn't so11:25
godfatherfor example11:25
tejinderhow do i remove openoffice?11:26
godfatheradept doesn't work well like synaptic11:26
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Jucatogodfather: Adept doesn't work like Synaptic because it is not Synaptic :)11:26
godfatherand it has got a reduced number of packages11:26
roconnorwhy are linux-kernel-headers only available for  2.6.11.2?11:26
Jucatobut if you mean the basic functions, they're practically the same11:26
main2how do i disable localisation in my console?11:26
godfatheryeah of course11:26
godfather:)11:26
Jucatoof course you can still use Synaptic in Kubuntu. nothing wrong with that11:27
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godfatheri mean it doesn't work with the same performance ...security stability and so on11:27
Jucatosecurity? just the same afaik. stability, Synaptic "might" be more stable. but it really has nothing to do with whether Kubuntu is stable or not. it's just one app11:28
Whiz2anyone know the syntax in fstab for automounting ext3 patitions with umask=000? I have an issue where they won't automount11:28
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godfatheri don't want a hybrid machince...you know ubuntu with kde11:28
Whiz2I managed get them formatted correctly now tho11:28
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Jucatogodfather: you won't have to install ubuntu to have Synaptic in Kubuntu11:28
Jucatoyou will only install the needed libs. that's all.11:28
cojyhi everyone11:29
ninHerhi all11:29
cojyI need a little help....anybody?? :(11:29
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NthDegreewhat's up cojy?11:29
NthDegree!help11:29
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage11:29
NthDegreeoops wrong info11:29
cojyhi11:29
Jucato!ask11:30
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:30
NthDegreeso what's the problem?11:30
NthDegreethat's the one Jucato :)11:30
Jucato:P11:30
cojyI am a begginer in linux system...I've installed ubuntu, and11:30
godfatheri want use kde that's the truth11:30
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godfatheri tried to install kde on ubuntu11:30
cojyI want to install a printer driver11:30
godfatherbut t is a caos11:30
buzzy-people i have downloaded a tar that has to be installaed: i type sudo ./install but it says : "make command not found"11:30
buzzy-bobesponja,11:30
cojyI've down the driver that is an archive tz..11:30
godfatheri want install kubuntu11:30
main2how do i disable localisation in my console?, i want my english console back :(11:31
Jucatogodfather: it will definitely be chaotic since you're having both Kubuntu and Ubuntu on one system11:31
NthDegreecojy, uh what printer?11:31
cojyand I don't know what to do further11:31
cojylexmark11:31
cojyI entered the terminal11:31
godfatherhaving the same power and stabilit that i had on ubuntu11:31
main2cojy: congratulations :-))11:31
cojybut when it asks for a pass I can't write nothing11:31
NthDegreehave you tried the normal method of installing printers?11:31
NthDegreeOMG lol11:31
NthDegreecojy, listen to me:11:31
cojy?? what that? :)11:31
cojykl11:31
cojyok11:31
NthDegreecojy: you will not see what you type, it does type11:31
NthDegreenot even *s will appear11:32
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kamikazeei11:32
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cojyaham...so I have to type my pass and press enter11:32
cojyright?11:32
NthDegreeyep that's what ya gotta do :)11:32
charlie5hi again ... what 'Port Map' setting should i use for ktorrent port forwarding ?11:32
tejinderwhich one is preffered interface to APT? apt-get or aptitude?11:32
cojyand after this?11:33
cojyI read somethig that I have to write make11:33
NthDegreecojy, uh you're compiling printer drivers?11:33
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cojywhen I'm in the drivers directory11:33
Whiz2no one will answer my question?11:33
cojyI think so11:33
NthDegreecojy:  what exact model of printer is it?11:33
cojyI don't know how to work with the terminal....I have the bas, but...11:34
cojylexmark x525011:34
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cojyi downloaded the driver from the official site11:34
cojyit has the extension .tar.gz11:34
NthDegreeright ok11:35
cojyI've extracted the archive...11:35
cojynext?11:35
NthDegreei'll walk you through it11:35
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cojythanks...I'm all eyes11:35
NthDegreenext you want sudo apt-get install build-essential11:35
NthDegreethat will download what you need to make the drivers11:35
buzzy-peope: what is the best audio conversion tool?11:35
cojywhere can I donload it?11:36
cojydownload*11:36
NthDegreei just told you how to download it lol11:36
Whiz2Help! I need to know the syntax in /etc/fstab for mounting /dev/hdb1 and /dev/hdc1 as etx3 filesystems with read/write/execute file permissions for EVERYONE11:36
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NthDegreecojy, type sudo apt-get build-essential11:36
NthDegreethen hit enter11:36
Jucatocojy: "sudo apt-get build-essential"11:37
Jucato(without the quotes)11:37
cojyok...wait a sec :)11:37
Whiz2cojy type that into terminal11:37
charlie5mmm, ktorrent has a plugin which does the port forwarding for you ... nice :)11:37
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Whiz2no help for the fstab illiterate?11:38
tejinderwhich one is better? apt-get or aptitude?11:38
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cojyE: Invalid operation build-essential11:38
cojywhat's that??11:38
Jucatoimho aptitude. but apt-cache is better11:38
Jucatocojy: "sudo apt-get install build-essential" sorry11:38
Acidic32err sudo apt-get install build-essential11:38
Jucatomy fault... sorry11:38
Acidic32ooo11:38
Acidic32to slow11:39
cojyah..:) ok no problem ;)11:39
NthDegree1 sec11:39
Whiz2Why am I being ignored?11:39
NthDegreecojy did you get the drivers from here:  http://www.lexmark.com/lexmark/sequentialem/home/0,6959,204816596_659668526_0_en,00.html11:39
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cojyok...it is installing...11:40
JucatoWhiz2: maybe because no one knows the answer to your question?11:40
cojylet me see11:40
Jucatoflaccid: have you found it?11:40
flaccidnope i just did reconfigure kdm11:40
NthDegreecojy: because those drivers are for developemnt and aren't really proper drivers11:40
flaccidbut like my hard disk crashed again11:40
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flaccidneed a new one in my notebook11:41
flaccidlost profile data again11:41
tejinderhow do i remove open office?11:41
cojyyes...that's the page I down the drivers from11:41
Whiz2nevermind. I'll get help from someone who knows the ins and outs of Linux.11:41
NthDegreetejinder: try this, sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org-common11:41
cojynext?11:41
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NthDegree ./configure the archive11:42
cojybut will I be able to use my printer?11:42
NthDegreethen make clean && make#11:42
buzzy-peope: what is the best audio conversion tool?11:42
cojyk+11:42
cojyk..wait a sec11:42
NthDegreecojy, if you got the drivers from there, probably not.....11:42
gijsdepends on what you are trying to convert to what11:42
cojydamn....however I can try...it has opened the terminal11:43
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NthDegreewell if it works you can post the solution in the forum for all to see :)11:43
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cojyok...after the terminat finished to set up...what do I do next?11:44
Ash-Foxhttp://kwine.sf.net <= cool.11:44
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rahmetlitrying to update via adept updater,it downloads the packages but stops at 2%,it is trying toupdate sun-java5-bin.11:45
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Ash-Foxrahmetli, click show details11:45
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rahmetliAsh-Fox i did it,there is a text for licence and an "ok" button11:46
NthDegreecojy, you want ./configure then make11:46
rahmetliAsh-Fox but i cant press the button11:46
cojyok...11:46
NthDegreetype that in the terminal11:46
Jucatorahmetli: use your cursor keys instead of the mouse11:47
NthDegreeonce the drivers are made by typing make do a make install11:47
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Ash-Foxrahmetli, click it, then try using the cursor keys and hit enter to make your choice.11:47
rahmetliAsh-Fox no it doesnt work :(11:48
cojyafter make?11:48
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NthDegreemake install11:48
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cojyok11:48
Ash-Foxrahmetli, I've had that problem once, I found killing one of the last apps running under root under 'ps aux' was enough to get it to install without accepting.11:48
buzzy-friends: what is the best audio conversion tool?11:49
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cojydoesn't work :(11:49
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cojyit gives me hundreds of errors11:50
buzzy-friends: what is the best audio conversion tool?11:50
cojyhowever thank you NthDegree11:50
cojyand one more thing...11:51
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cojyhaw can I access my ntfs hdd from the root of ubuntu?11:51
Jucato!ntf11:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:51
rahmetliAsh-Fox now should i kill the process?sorry but i couldnt understand.11:51
Jucato!ntfs11:51
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse11:51
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cojyI mean from filesystem ("/")11:52
NthDegree!ntfs11:52
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse11:52
cojythe partitions are allready mounted11:53
charlie5ktorrent will d/l ok now, but i only get dialup d/l speeds ... do i need to change a speed setting somewhere ?11:53
NthDegreethen you can access them11:53
cojybut if I want to browse something with a program (like amaroK) ?11:54
NthDegreeOMG11:54
cojyit only shows me /11:54
cojywhat?11:54
NthDegreetype the location where it was mounted11:54
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NthDegreejust navigate to where you mounted it11:55
rahmetliAsh-Fox you mean this procces? "whiptail --backtitle Ubuntu Configuration --title Configuring sun-java5-bin --output-fd 11 --msgbox Operating Syst"11:55
cojyI can't...it shows me only the folders from "/"11:55
cojylike bin, boot....11:55
NthDegreeOMG11:55
NthDegreewhere did you mount it?11:55
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NthDegreewhat folder did you mount it on?11:56
beleHi! Can I ask your experiences in using BERYL with kubuntu (or should I ask #ubuntu-effects instead?)) Is it stable?11:56
cojyI don't know....after I've installed ubuntu were allready mounted11:56
cojyI can access them from my computer11:56
gijsif you type "mount" in the console it shows all mounted locations11:57
NthDegreeok then click on mnt11:57
Jucato /media11:57
cojyok...1 sec11:57
NthDegreeok then /media lol11:57
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Jucatohe could probably see it in Storage Media (media:/) ?11:57
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cojyyou're right...there are in media11:58
rampage WHERE CAN I FIND x64 WINE11:58
cojy:)11:58
cojythank you all!!!11:58
rampageI HAVE 64 BITS AMD11:58
NthDegreerampage: don't be stupid11:58
rampage ???11:58
NthDegreerampage: there's not any 64bit windows apps yet11:58
cojybtw...there is any guide for the terminat?11:58
NthDegreecojy, there's the time tested guide11:59
rampagei have 64 bits amd11:59
NthDegreecojy: if you don't know what a command does like chown for instance type man chown11:59
rampage would i 386 would run11:59
NthDegreerampage: listen to me11:59
Jucatocojy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands11:59
rampage carry on11:59
NthDegreerampage: you cant run WINDOWS apps on 64 bit WINE11:59
rampagebut their is no 64 bit wine12:00
NthDegreerampage: because there aren't any 64 bit windows apps to run12:00
NthDegreerampage: because there's no proper 64 bit windows12:00
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rampage all i386 wine pacakages12:00
Hurgincan anyone tell me how to rename volume labels in edgy?, nothing seems to work12:00
cojywow :o I didn't knew that...thaks again :)12:00
rampage but i368 doesnt install on my machine12:00
rahmetliAsh-Fox i understand,i did it and solved the problem,i killed the whiptail proccess,and it started to install.Thank youuu.12:01
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urosbhello12:01
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NthDegreerampage: yes it does :) try man dpkg for the right switches to allow an i386 package to install12:01
Ash-Foxrahmetli, ack sorry, I was on the phone12:01
urosbi need some help with sound drivers12:01
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NthDegreeyou can do it, just not straight forward :)12:01
rampage ok trying12:02
NthDegreerampage: trust me it can be done, just like VMWare can install on a 64bit machine even though VMWare is i38612:02
rahmetliAsh-Fox again a yes no screen,i cant press12:02
NthDegreethere's --force=architecture which overrides the architecture lool12:03
Ash-Foxrahmetli, you'll want to kill that too then :/12:03
cojycan I change my os boot sequence?12:03
NthDegreecojy, what do you mean?12:03
NthDegreecojy, on the GRUB menu, change what is booted by default?12:04
rahmetliAsh-Fox will it accept is as "ok" ?12:04
cojyat the system start, by default starts ubuntu...12:04
cojya..ok12:04
cojyhow? :)12:04
Ash-Foxrahmetli, in my expirence it should take any kill as a "yes" or "i accept", "ok" etc.12:04
cojyI don't have such command12:04
NthDegreecojy, try this:  sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst12:04
NthDegreeedit that file12:05
cojyok12:05
NthDegreechange the "default" line from 0 to 1 or w/e12:05
rahmetliAsh-Fox thanks agin, i try, cos i dont have anyother choice like pressing. :)12:05
NthDegreethen it can boot Windows by default if that is what you want :|12:05
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Ash-Foxrahmetli, it's a shame I can't figure out how to replicate that bug.12:06
cojyyes..is that what I want12:06
cojyok...I'll try12:06
rahmetliAsh-Fox uninstall sun-java-bin12:07
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rahmetliAsh-Fox then reinstall12:07
rahmetliAsh-Fox :)12:07
Jucatojust kill Adept and install/update sun java from Konsole12:07
Ash-Foxrahmetli, yeah, I don't have that problem when I retried.12:07
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rahmetliAsh-Fox i have did the same update 5 times before asking here,the problem replicated12:08
rahmetliAsh-Fox now i love dpkg --configure -a12:09
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Ash-Foxrahmetli, the problem is, you can replicate it, but I can't. If I can't replicate it, how will I file a accurate bug report on how to replicate it? :)12:09
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rahmetliAsh-Fox how can i report it?12:10
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Ash-Foxrahmetli, main bug reports for adept should be done using KDE's bugzilla12:11
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Ash-Foxhttp://bugs.kde.org/12:11
JucatoI think it has already been filed. something about Adept and ncurses12:11
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Ash-FoxJucato, yet I get the problem only some of the time?12:12
Ash-FoxSeems something a bit more than ncurses.12:12
JucatoAsh-Fox: this has been confirmed by many many people (Sun Java and VMWare)12:12
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Jucatoi'm not sure if it's ncurses exactly, though12:12
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rahmetliAsh-Fox i have killed the second "yes no screen" and it continued.NOw system is up to date12:15
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kamikaze_jfor mp, avi, dix packet?12:15
Ash-Foxrahmetli, alrighty :)12:15
Ash-Fox!mp312:15
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:15
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rahmetliAsh-Fox thanx again :)12:16
nomadsoulis there something that can explain me how the ubuntu init system works?12:16
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octan!init.d12:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about init.d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:17
octan!init12:17
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto12:17
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nomadsoulcool12:19
patrick_Does anybody know a forum or FAQ on Ubuntu in combination with the new Dell XPS M1710 laptop?12:20
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octanpatrick_, whats the problem?12:21
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patrick_The build in subwoofer is not working and Nvidia card is not willing to work, I have googled and googled and tried like 5/6 times but system crashes on startup when Nvidia card is installed and xorg config nv renamed to nvidia...12:23
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Torched5/6?12:23
Torchedthat's not even a whole time12:23
patrick_lol12:23
patrick_5 to 6 times...12:23
Torchedohh12:24
patrick_;)12:24
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octanpatrick_, did you install the nvidia driver ?12:24
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patrick_I did, apt-get the nvidia drivers...12:25
octanthe modules too?12:25
octanrestricted12:25
patrick_Well, let me search for that document I used...12:26
patrick_It shows all I did.12:26
patrick_One moment please.12:26
octanif you didnt use this,, use it12:27
octan!nvidia12:27
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:27
nomadsouloctan: is there a directory where i can found the configuration files for the init scripts?12:28
patrick_You know your card model begins with "4", "FX", or "6". <-- This might be the problem...12:28
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patrick_It is a mobile... Uhm, what was the name again :/12:28
octannomadsoul yes, usaly /etc :P12:28
patrick_One sec..12:29
nomadsouloctan: tnx12:29
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octannomadsoul, or look in the init script where it looks for the config files12:29
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marinoshelo all12:30
patrick_Nvidia GeForce 7900 Go is the name...12:31
patrick_Hi Marinos12:31
patrick_:D12:31
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patrick_Octan, could that be the prob? It is a 'go'12:32
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octanis your card in this list ?12:33
octanhttp://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_18897.html12:33
patrick_GeForce Go 7900 GTX   0x0299 must be it...12:34
patrick_Yes it is in the list.12:34
octanalright12:34
octanthats good12:34
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kamikaze_jalguien habla espaol?12:35
patrick_So, it should work... I am doing something wrong here.12:35
patrick_habla some English?12:35
patrick_:D12:35
kamikaze_j:D12:35
Jucato!es12:35
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.12:35
patrick_:D12:35
kamikaze_ji'm looking for a good source list in spanish12:36
patrick_Good, man... Linux for human beings, even habla Espanol... I love it.12:36
patrick_:D12:36
kamikaze_jhaha12:36
kamikaze_jin kubuntu-es... bad...12:37
kamikaze_jxD12:37
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octanpatrick_, follow this guide12:40
octanhttp://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper12:40
patrick_Okay, thanks a lot!12:40
octanor http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/12:40
octan:)12:40
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buzzypeople i have installed soundconverter but it does not start!!! why? (i m on kubuntu and it's based on gnome: is this the problem?)12:50
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patrick_Octan, you are the man! I just started with the Nvidia logo... :) Wheey!12:53
MenZa:D12:53
octan:)12:53
octangreat :)12:54
patrick_Thanks a lot man!12:54
octannp12:54
patrick_I was getting worried about this problem... But that is fixed now.12:54
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octan:)12:54
patrick_Only one thing remains :(12:54
octanyou subwoofer ?12:54
patrick_The build in subwoofer yeah12:54
patrick_I googled it but no luck on it.12:55
octanis that using a nvidia sound card ?12:55
patrick_No, erhm...12:55
patrick_Let me see.12:55
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octanhmm you got a builtin subwoofer in you pc ?12:56
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patrick_Yes :D12:56
octanlitteart inside the pc ?12:56
octanohmy12:56
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patrick_I have that new Dell XPS M1710 gaming laptop ;)12:56
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=== octan wounders how long that hd will work :P
octanyou'll be gettiing a shaken hard driver after a while :P12:57
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patrick_lol12:58
patrick_I have a problem, I cant find the correct info on the Dell's homepage, I will get my manual to search for the correct hardware.12:58
patrick_One sec please...12:59
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kamikaze_jxgl in kubuntu?12:59
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octanyes12:59
octan #ubuntu-xgl01:00
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kamikaze_jok tanks01:00
kutanWoah there's actually an op here.01:00
kutanNever seen that before01:00
kutanAnyway01:01
kutanCan someone help me with an error I get while trying to install an application?01:01
NthDegreeHobbsee is an OP in here afaik01:01
NthDegreesure :)01:01
patrick_Hmm, nice manual... It has NO detail on what soundcard it uses... :/01:02
patrick_I'll google it.01:02
octancheck this out01:02
octanhttp://iaindb.customer.netspace.net.au/linux-9100-audio.html01:02
kutanWhen I run the configure file, I get this error, "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"01:02
NthDegreepatrick_: blooming hell01:02
NthDegreepatrick_: sudo lspci01:02
kutanThat's happened to me a bunch of times but I still have no idea how to fix it01:02
NthDegreekutan: install the X development libraries01:03
Jucatokutan: try installing xorg-dev?01:03
patrick_blooming hell? :|01:03
patrick_Hell that sounds bad!01:03
HobbseeNthDegree: indeed.  what's up?01:04
NthDegreepatrick_: try lspci -v for your sound card lool patrick_01:04
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NthDegreenothing much :)01:04
NthDegreesomeon thought there was no OPers in here01:04
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NthDegreehehehe01:05
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octanpatrick_, lspci -v |grep Multimedia01:05
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Jucatoshow off :P01:05
Hobbseegone.01:05
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Jucato*** Hobbsee takes channel operator privileges from Riddell. <--- lol01:05
NthDegree@lart Hobbsee 2801:05
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NthDegree@pity Hobbsee 2801:05
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NthDegreeoops no ubugtu jokes in here I guess :p01:06
patrick_Hmm... I do not see any soundcard in the list that apeared after that command.01:06
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HobbseeJucato: :P01:06
Jucatoyep no Ubugtu commands :)01:06
NthDegreepatrick_: look for Sound Controller01:06
NthDegreepatrick_: or Multimedia01:06
octanpatrick_, look for something like this01:07
octanroot@Nuxil:/etc# lspci -v |grep Multimedia01:07
octan0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a1)01:07
octanme all nvidia :)01:07
patrick_Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)01:08
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octanyea01:08
patrick_:/ Is that it?01:08
octanyes01:08
NthDegreeyes I believe so01:08
patrick_So it should work I guess...01:08
octana inter 82801G chip01:08
NthDegreeintel*01:08
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octanbleh i like to type it wrong01:09
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octan:P01:09
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octanhe a girl?01:09
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octanhack into her webcam.. :P01:10
kamikaze_j:D01:10
NthDegreesometimes I just wish................ lol01:10
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kamikaze_j................01:10
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Hobbseehah01:10
Hobbseedream on01:10
JucatoHobbsee's definitely a she01:10
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patrick_Okay, so I must search for linux installation files on this Intel soundcard... Google, here I come.01:10
Jucatoa very very VERY scary "she"01:10
patrick_Or... Other tips?01:10
NthDegreeI all of a sudden took interest when I worked out that fact Jucato :p01:11
Jucatolol01:11
Jucatoph34r Hobbsee's whip!01:11
Hobbseeheh01:12
Jucatoaw.. she left.. :(01:12
octanpatrick_, the last link i gave you?01:12
octanits the same chip01:13
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octanhttp://iaindb.customer.netspace.net.au/linux-9100-audio.html01:14
sF|Xemanthwhats the roadmap for edgy ?01:14
sF|Xemanthwheres*01:14
MenZa!roadmap01:14
patrick_Oh...01:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about roadmap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:14
MenZahmm01:14
MenZa!schedule01:14
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule01:15
NthDegree!edgy01:15
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule01:15
NthDegreeoops :$01:15
MenZa:d01:15
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MenZa:D*01:15
JucatoMenZa: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/EdgyReleaseSchedule01:16
kutanokay the X problem is fixed01:16
kutanI have a new one now01:16
sF|Xemanthhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule <- this is ough01:16
MenZaJucato: :o01:16
sF|Xemanthenough*01:16
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kutan"checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!"01:16
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kutanI don't know what package to install01:16
Ash-FoxNO, Not a kernel freeze01:16
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sF|Xemanthi hope they don't put to final edgy 2.6.18 that would be a catastroph01:17
Ash-FoxEdgy is going to make me really happy.01:17
Ash-FoxI wonder if I should upgrade or reinstall though.01:18
sF|Xemanthedgy not doing me atm happy01:18
sF|Xemanth:|01:18
Ash-FoxOh?01:18
kutanAnyone?01:18
sF|Xemanthkernel and string freeze was yesterday, what does that exactly mean01:19
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sF|XemanthAsh-Fox: ndiswrapper is screwing with me :| and i can't get fglrx working properly01:19
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patrick_Ahyeah... look at these GL screensavers! lol01:20
flakedidn't work, auto eth1 disconnected me01:20
flakeon boot01:20
patrick_...See you all again soon, thanks for the help so far. Octan, special thanks to you! Laterrr...01:20
Ash-FoxsF|Xemanth, blah :/ (thankfully I don't need either of those)01:20
octancya01:21
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octanhttp://album.sautret.org/800_divers/500_Linux%20Girls/lls25_Gd.jpg.29.html01:27
octan:D01:27
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Arlingtonis it possible to disable the diskscan that is performed during startup?01:31
Dr_willisyou can use the tune2fs tool to set the ## or mounts triggeed it to very high.01:31
Dr_willisor perhaps disable totally.01:31
Dr_willisI normally set it Higher, and to a different # for my differnt drives.01:31
Dr_willisthat way not all get scanned at once on the 30th reboot01:32
Arlingtonsome of my windows drives have errors that the discscaner dosn't check but states att every boot and it takes alot of time during the boot.01:32
Arlingtonwhat is tune2fs?01:33
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ArlingtonDr_willis: please explain!01:36
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Dr_willistune2fs  -  adjust  tunable  filesystem  parameters  on01:36
Dr_willis       ext2/ext3 filesystems01:36
Dr_willisits a command. :)01:36
Dr_williswindows drives shouldent be getting checked at all01:37
chetanhi.. i need to install a version of kubuntu for doing development work on apache modules.. can someone please suggest a version? (i'd prefer having kde 3.5.4)01:37
chetanare the beta's stable?01:37
Dr_willischeck your fstab entry for them01:37
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Arlingtonhow do i check my fstab entry?01:38
Dr_willis3.5.4 is in testing. with the right repos. right now 3.5.2 is the current. , not bothered with the3.5.4  on this machine - they seemed to work. but  i dident mess with them here.01:38
Dr_willisDefacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume01:38
Dr_willislook at /etc/fstab file01:38
Dr_willismine (for ntfs) -->  /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       101:39
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rampage how to run i386 package on x64 machine i have havin an error01:41
rampage plz help01:41
rampage bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'01:41
rampage command = dpkg --force-architecture<op.deb>01:42
Arlingtonrampage:  there is a guide on the net dunno where exactly. it would be easier to download the 386 version of kubuntu though. no need to use x64 version when there is virtually no software for it...01:42
rampage i downloaded opera i38601:43
rampage but cant install it01:43
rampage havin syntax error01:43
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rampage plz read above to see error01:43
octanrampage, opera? it suxz. get firefox 2 beta instead :)01:44
rampage still i want to learn to install i386 package01:44
Arlingtonsearch the kubuntu forums!01:44
Arlington!kubuntuforums01:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kubuntuforums - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:45
Dr_willisYou want to run 32bit programs/packages on a 64bit ubuntu install?01:46
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rampage yea01:46
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rampage i386 opera on x64 machine and os ^_^01:47
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wildchild!IDE01:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about IDE - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:48
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Dr_willisya got to do some chrooting for that to work01:49
Dr_willisor jailing.. i forget :P01:49
octandchroot :P01:49
Dr_willisI always just run 32bit disrtos01:49
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octanyaya01:50
octannetsplit01:50
davelondonhi all, as anyone got the openberg ebook extension to work in firefox01:50
octanrampage,01:50
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octanyou say your on a 64 bit system ? right?01:50
octanrampage, ?01:50
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davelondonhi all, as anyone got the openberg ebook extension to work in firefox01:51
octanrampage, ?01:51
octanrampage, 64 bit you have?01:51
rampageyea01:53
octanrampage, if your on a 64 bit system all you need to do is install this stuff01:53
octanand you dont have to jail to 32 bit system01:53
octania32-libs01:53
rampage @octan i have 64 machine01:53
octanlinux3201:53
rampage i have to download and install it01:53
rampage thses 2 ia32-libs and linux3201:54
rampage ??01:54
octanalright01:54
octani have moe01:54
octanand i tryed the opera i386 file01:54
octanand it works here01:54
rampagehow01:54
rampagetell me01:54
octantry install this stuff01:55
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bobesponjahey01:55
octanlibc6-i38601:55
rampage...01:55
rampageok01:55
rampagei am on it01:55
octanlib32z101:56
octanlib32stdc++601:56
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octanlib32objc101:56
rampagei am on it01:56
octan(lib32gfortan) maybe,, i got it installed01:57
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octan**lib32gfortan001:57
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octanlib32-libs-sdl01:58
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octani got some few more .. but thats like java and other stuff01:59
davelondonok anyone know a good ebook reader01:59
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abattoirdavelondon: what sort of ebooks? pdf? chm?02:01
octania32-libs-gtk02:01
rampagecannot find  lib32-libs-sdl @ octan02:02
octanoh02:02
davelondonabattoir, I get a bit confused with the ebook stuff, I have openberg for firefox, but if its pdf or text you can use konquror or a text editor-what's the ebook reader do?02:03
rampage**lib32gfortan0 and these to @octan02:03
abattoirdavelondon: now you are confusing me ;)02:03
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octanlib32gfortan002:03
octanand ia32-libs-sdl02:04
rampagenope i cant find them02:04
abattoirdavelondon: if you are looking for a multi-format reader, i'm not aware of one(there will be okular for KDE4, but nothing i know of for KDE3)02:04
rampage@octan02:04
octanhmm02:04
octanyour missing a repo?02:04
octanhmm02:05
octanpt-cache show ia32-libs-sdl02:05
rampagei cant find ia32-libs-sdl02:05
octanPackage: ia32-libs-sdl02:05
octanPriority: optional02:05
octanSection: universe/libs02:05
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davelondonabattoir, I have pdf and text ebooks but what use is an ebook reader if other apps read them all ready?-I have the openberg ebook extension for firefox and it won't load any ebooks I have tried02:05
octanits in universe02:05
octanrampage, are you shure you typing it correctly ?02:05
octano*sure02:05
rampageyup02:05
abattoirdavelondon: aah, for that i think you'd need to ask the author of the extension ;) (unless i still am not getting what you mean)02:05
rampagecutting02:06
rampagepaste02:06
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octanok.. i'll paste my source.list in your pm ?02:06
octanyour missing a repo.--02:06
rampageok plz02:06
octanrampage have you registrert you nick name?02:07
davelondonabattoir, I'm just puzzled as to why use an ebook client when pdf & txt can be read in standard apps and I'm emailing the openberg developer as even their testbook will not load02:07
octan rampage in xchat do.. /msg NickServ REGISTER02:07
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rampageok02:08
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abattoirdavelondon: ok, i get it, but there are different formats in which ebooks are distributed, so an ideal 'ebook reader' would be expected to read the majority of those formats, but i guess, its best to ask the devs ;)02:09
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raul12ok02:09
raul12yup i am there02:09
octanraul12, ok02:09
raul12i can see u octane02:09
raul12but i cant message02:10
octandid you see my flood now?02:11
raul12ok02:11
raul12yup02:12
raul12why cant i pm u ??02:12
octan? i dont know02:12
octandid you see my text02:12
BuZzYi have installed lame (by apt-get) but is not latest version, how can i get it to latest one?02:13
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raul12YUP02:16
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raul12I DID02:16
raul12@OCTAN02:16
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cccraul12: you have to register to send pms02:19
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raul12yup02:20
raul12i think02:20
cccraul12: /msg nickserv help register02:20
raul12i couldnt pm02:20
raul12can any 1 pm plz i want see if my pm works02:21
raul12505]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )02:22
raul12these is popping up02:22
Arepiehow can i check what was my cd rom was?? ls cd ?02:22
cccraul12: yes. like i said, you have to register. that's exactly what it says too.02:22
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mhterreshey guys02:25
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mhterres2 friends of mine have a problem with KDE 3.5.4 from Kubuntu packages02:26
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mhterressince they upgrade their laptops, everytime they boot the system, the KDE wizard opens02:26
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mhterreshow can we stop that ???02:27
mhterres:-)02:27
mhterresit's very annoying02:27
octanahah02:27
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octani know02:27
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mhterresany ideas ?02:28
octanyes02:28
octanyou need to edit this file02:28
BuZzYhow can i get the codec of an audi o file?02:28
BuZzYhow can i get the codec of an audi o file?02:28
octan~/.kde/share/config/kpersonalizerrc02:28
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octanput this at the bottom02:28
octan[General] 02:29
octanFirstLogin=false02:29
mhterreshmmm, ok02:29
mhterresit's a bug in the packages ???02:29
octanits a known bug02:29
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mhterreshmmmmmm02:30
mhterresbut it not happens in all machines02:30
octanmhterres, dont worry about tit02:30
mhterresoctan: no, I'm not worry, just curious02:30
KDEfanboyBuZzY: mplayer -identify -frames 0 FILENAME 2>&1 | grep CODEC02:30
octanjust do as i tell you and you get rid of it :P02:31
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KDEfanboymplyaer docs should match codec aliases to type, #mplayer02:32
BuZzYKDEfanboy, "mad"02:32
BuZzYu know it?02:32
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hyperhiya, does kubuntu edgy install a firewall by default or block ports?02:33
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octanhyper just therst that02:34
octaniptables -L -v -n02:34
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octansee what it says02:34
octan*test02:34
KDEfanboyBuZzY: think it's http://www.underbit.com/products/mad/ . play the file with mplayer from the console to quickly see which type02:34
mhterresoctan: thanks, I'll try :-D02:34
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raul12 @octan how do u know what lib files needed for installing i386 software ??02:34
hyperoctan: Just returns a bunch of errors :)02:34
raul12 is there some kind of command ??02:35
hyperoctan: had to run it as sudo ^^02:35
octanraul12, i dont remember02:35
octanhybrid_, offcource02:35
raul12 i386 opera02:35
raul12 x64 machine02:36
raul12 remember ??02:36
hyperoctan:  http://www.phpfi.com/16081402:36
pwnbrehello02:36
octanraul12, let me send you something02:36
raul12ok02:36
pwnbreanyone that're swedish in here?02:36
octanhyper, you got no firewall :P02:36
octanChain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 5 packets, 233 bytes)02:36
hyperoctan: What might then be the reason that I can't ssh into my computer from another one?02:37
raul12 any good fire wall 4 linux ??02:37
Chousukeiptables :)02:37
octanhyper ssh is not installed :P or configured02:37
octanraul12, yea your head :P and build one with ipttables02:38
raul12 any good fire wall 4 linux ??02:38
Chousukeraul12: I already answered ;P02:38
Chousukeraul12: It's pretty difficult to configure though. You had better download some configuration utility for it like Firestarter.02:38
octanbleh02:38
octanraul12, accept my file transfere02:39
raul12ok02:39
raul12i did02:39
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octanits just waiting here02:39
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hyperoctan: I can on my computer ssh in my computer:   ssh hyper@localhost... that works... btw, for my network setup.   http://www.phpfi.com/16081702:39
raul12plz resend02:39
raul12@octan02:40
raul12i have opera.tar.zip02:40
raul12file02:40
octanhyper, check that the sshd deamon is running on the other machine02:40
raul12@octan02:40
octanraul12 wait.. i'll put it on my ftp02:41
raul12i have these filke02:41
raul12i have opera02:41
raul12tar.zip02:41
hyperoctan: the other machine is a winxp machine at work and I used putty there... I can use putty to connect to my rented webserver or other computers... but not to this one somehow...02:41
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octanraul12, did you see my text in pm?02:42
raul12yea02:42
octanhyper, i dont know much about windows sorry02:42
raul12@octan plz send  lib32gfortan002:43
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raul12i have opera.tar.zip file which u send me02:43
hyperoctan: Well, with putty I can connect to other servers/computers by ssh so it should work fine from there...02:44
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octanraul12, extract it02:44
hyperoctan: is only port 22 (tcp) used for ssh or do I need to forward also another one?02:44
raul12 did02:44
octanhyper, wait a bit02:44
octanraul12, open cli02:44
raul12 i also intalled it but no opera executables02:44
octancd /path/to/opera02:44
octanthe file you extracted02:45
raul12 y02:45
octancd bin02:45
hyper*reboot*02:45
octannow02:45
octanwhat does ./opera say02:45
octanmaybe you need to chmod 755 opera02:45
octanthen ./opera02:45
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raul12 where type that02:46
raul12 in bin folder02:46
octanopen konsole02:46
raul12 y02:46
octanand cd to opera02:46
raul12 opned02:46
octanyou see bin dir?02:46
octancd bin02:46
raul12 w802:47
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th0rbendoes anyone know how to access arbitrary disc partitions via the system:/media URI? in particular, i want to be able to control lvm volumes via konqueror02:49
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raul12 yea i see02:49
raul12 then what02:49
octanchmod 755 opera02:49
octan./opera02:49
octanwhat does it do?02:49
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ChousukeWhy are you installing opera like that? There's a Debian package that works :/02:50
raul12 error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory02:50
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hyperoctan: back again02:50
raul12@octan02:50
octanraul12, ok you see what you are missing now,, go install it02:50
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raul12ok02:51
octanhybrid_, sorry.. i dont know how you connect from linux ssh to windows putty ssh.. i dont mess with windows anymore :P thouse that are long gone :)02:52
octanChousuke yes but he could not get it to work..02:53
hyperoctan: No, I want to connect from putty (windows ssh client) to my computer but my computer refuses everything... could you try whether you actually get to the password screen?02:53
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octanhybrid_, is this ps behind a firewall ?02:54
raul12libqt-mt.so.3 cant find these file02:54
octangt02:54
octangt302:54
octanerm02:54
octanqt3 stuff02:54
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raul12 libqt-mt.so.302:54
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KDEfanboy!qt02:55
ubotuqt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and a lot of other applications. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package.02:55
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_lapset_02:55
hyperoctan: we just looked before and you said there is no firewall... and I didn't install anything else02:55
_lapset_she gay02:55
mhterresoctan: Works !!!! Thanks !!!02:55
octannp02:55
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raul12 plz help i cant find  libqt-mt.so.302:55
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octanraul12, libqt-mt02:56
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octanerm02:56
t_oottte kaiikki ihan vitun homo02:56
octanraul12, libqt3-mt02:56
raul12 for then .so.3 stand ???02:56
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octandont look at that02:56
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octanlook at the main name02:56
octanhybrid_, be sure the sshd deamon is running02:57
sF|Xemanthlol t_02:57
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octanssh client != server02:57
raul12 well i have it still can install opera02:57
hyperoctan: on my computer I can login myself through ssh "ssh hyper@localhost"... but when I try from outside it won't work02:57
octanssh = clent side.. sshd = server side :P02:58
raul12 @octan02:58
octanhmm02:58
hyperhyper@hyper-linux:~$ ps aux | grep sshd02:58
hyperroot      4631  0.0  0.1   4944  1052 ?        Ss   14:48   0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd02:58
octanare you trying to log in as root? maybe you disables that02:59
raul12 well i cant install opera02:59
hyperoctan: well, I don't even get a message from outside... just a time out02:59
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octanhybrid_, is this pc behind a router ?03:00
hyperoctan: same goes for ftp.... however   http works03:00
hyperoctan: it's behind a router03:00
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octanaha03:00
hyperoctan: here's the info.   http://www.phpfi.com/16081703:00
octanwell you need to forward on the router in that case03:00
octanhybrid_, is it a linux router ?03:01
hyperoctan: No, it's not03:01
raul12 @octan i cant install opera03:01
octananyway. you meed to setup forwad on the router03:01
raul12 the lib file is already installed03:01
hyperhowever ftp port forwarding while I still had windows here worked fine... now it refuses to do that... however port 80 works just fine03:01
hyperoctan: have a look at that url I send you.. it's a pastebin.... there you see the port forwards03:02
octanok03:02
hyperhttp://www.phpfi.com/16081703:02
octanthats on the linux box right?03:03
octanor router03:03
hyperoctan: the ifconfig info is my linux box03:03
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hyperoctan: the second thing is the port forwarding on the router03:03
octanwell.. as i said.. you need to forward on the router03:04
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hyperoctan: the third thing is that the no-ip.com service forwards to my correct public IP03:04
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hyperoctan: but it is forwarded on the router:  2.  22                22       10.0.0.5         UDP03:04
hyperoh, it's only udp03:04
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hyperoctan: 22 TCP is required, right? are any other port required for ssh?03:05
octanyou need to tell the router to tell what port 22 to go to on your lan03:05
octanhybrid_, you can setup sshd to use any port you like03:07
hyperoctan: I setup the forwardin on 22 UDP and not TCP03:07
hyper:)03:07
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octantcp man tcp03:08
octanhybrid_, life is so much simpler with a linux box as the router :)03:09
hyperoctan: stupid me ^^ btw, is 22 tcp enough for ssh?03:09
hyperoctan: well, no $$$ to buy one03:09
octanhybrid_, you only need like a p3 machine03:09
octanwith 3 or 4 nics03:09
hyperwell, can't afford that03:09
hyperat least not for the next half year03:10
hyper:(03:10
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octan hype make a sheme of you network03:10
octanhyper,03:11
hyper_back again :)03:11
octanmake a sheme of you network03:11
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octanlike on my server it looks like this03:11
octanLAN:192.168.2.2 <--> eth0(ip:192.168.2.1)-| <-- nat --> eth2 <--> (Internet)03:11
octanLAN:192.168.1.2 <--> eth1(ip:192.168.1.1)-|03:11
octanit make things easyer03:11
hyper_ok :) thx03:12
raul12 well where can i download ip tables03:12
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octanraul12, you already got it03:12
octansudo iptables -L -v -n03:13
bluch!amsn03:13
ubotuamsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB03:13
octanhyper, also check the routing table03:13
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octanroute03:14
octanKernel IP routing table03:14
octanDestination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface03:14
octan213.161.182.128 *               255.255.255.128 U     0      0        0 eth203:14
octan192.168.2.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth103:14
octan192.168.2.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth003:14
octan192.168.1.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth003:14
octan192.168.1.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth103:14
octandefault         skjervoy1-129.d 0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth203:14
octan ;) yaya03:14
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raul12libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.03:14
raul12ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.s03:14
boguhwhich window decoration does kubuntu use as default?03:15
raul12libjvm.so  libawt.so files03:15
raul12plz help03:15
octanstill opera?03:15
raul12my opera wont install or run03:15
raul12yup03:15
raul12^_^03:15
octanopen synaptic03:15
raul12i am on kde03:15
v3ctoropen adept03:15
octanand install everything that has a extention of 3203:15
octan*3203:16
octan32*03:16
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raul12ok03:16
octansynaptic is better that adept03:16
octanadept suxz03:16
octanits buggy03:16
v3ctorthey both sux03:16
raul12so will i install synaptic03:16
v3ctoruse aptitude03:16
octanwell adept suxz more03:16
raul12aptitude some kind of package manager ??03:17
hyper_octan: why is synaptic better?03:17
octanv3ctor, if you install java with adept.. or flash.. good look :P cos you need to hit enter on some licence shit,, adpet doesnt allow you to do that,, synaptic does..03:17
octanand offcource apt-get install03:17
v3ctoraptitude (8)         - high-level interface to the package manager03:17
v3ctoroctan: i don't use it...so no worries ;)03:18
hyper_octan: I did install java through adpet... and worked fine (after pressing the TAB) to be able to "press" Enter03:18
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raul12i install java manually ^_^03:19
raul12lol03:19
raul12far better03:19
Kubuhi03:19
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raul12@octan i cant find anything on *32 or 32*03:20
raul12@octan ???03:20
octannot i meant everything that has 32 in it03:20
octanbeginning with or ends with03:21
octanor has lib32 in it03:21
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octanraul12, i got abot everything installed :P03:21
raul12hmm03:22
octanit just works :P are you on amd 64 or intel 64 ?03:22
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raul12amd6403:24
raul12and u ?03:24
octanamd6403:25
raul12amd far better03:25
raul12than intel03:25
octani like to belive that too,, but its not the case with the new intel cup :(03:26
octan*cpu03:26
raul12i know03:26
v3ctorcome back and talk when they have 8core chips out03:26
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raul12amd will have solution03:26
raul12dun worry03:26
octani dont.03:26
raul12ans their will be better than intel03:27
octanlets hope so. :)03:27
raul12^_^03:27
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raul12ok if prb comes in opera installation i will be BACK03:27
raul12^_^03:27
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soulrider!mount iso03:37
ubotumount: Tools for mounting and manipulating filesystems. In component main, is required. Version 2.12r-4ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 149 kB, installed size 336 kB03:37
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soulrider!wiki03:37
ubotuwiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation03:37
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Hyper!ubotu03:39
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage03:39
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buzmy samba is extra ordinarily slow03:40
buzcopying files from an smbfs mount is about 1/3 of the speed i get with scp03:40
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BluesKajHowdy all03:46
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wildchildis it possible to format windows89 FAT32 partition ?03:48
wildchildwindows9803:48
wildchildand how do I do that03:48
octanyes03:49
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octanwildchild, you mean format it to fat32 ?03:49
wildchildwell on HD is allready windows 9803:50
wildchildso it's FAT3203:50
wildchildand I wanna format it in to fat3203:50
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aftertafdifference, apart from CAPS, being???03:50
octanmkfs.vfat /dev/hdx03:50
gpeekwell, its possible to do mkfs.msdos03:50
gpeekor mkfs.vfat03:50
octan;)03:50
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wildchildso firs I have to put disk into my PC03:51
octanlol03:51
Nick_Hi all. Trying to setup NAT on my box but it's not natting the IP. It's forwarding the IP as tho it's bridged.03:51
wildchildand somehow mount dhis new disk03:51
octani hope not that was a question03:51
aftertaflol me203:51
wildchildno it wasnt03:51
wildchild:)03:51
Hypercan Amarok actually stream the music it's playing?03:52
octanyes03:52
Hyperoctan: nice :)03:52
octanNick_, pherhaps i can help you03:52
octani do exactly that03:52
octanmasquerade ?03:53
octaniptables -t nat POSTROUTING -i ${UPLINK} -j MASQUERADE03:53
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HippyJimhi all - anyone help a noob who can't login?03:54
tomazhum?03:54
tomazcant login?03:54
tomazo.O"03:55
tomazhave you forgot your password?03:55
octanthen setup a route table if you got more than 1 nic. and set the gateway's IP on the lan same as ip of bridge03:55
HippyJimnot quite - using kubuntu breezy and when i enter password,screen ges black, then login screen comes up again03:55
octanNick_, are you following ?03:55
BluesKajwildchild, why do you want to reformat the windows 98 partition , it already is a FAT32 file system ?03:56
octanyahooo.. a big netsplit03:56
BluesKajsplittsville!03:56
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BluesKajwildchild, why do you want to reformat the windows 98 partition ? It already is a FAT32 file system .03:57
octanwildchild, yes? just delete everything on it03:57
octandelete c:/* or whatever it uses03:57
octanbeen years since i was in windows03:58
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octanwb guys :P03:59
BluesKaji get the impression wildchild wants to keep windows and setup a dualboot windows/linux system.04:00
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doczicowaouhhhhh04:00
Jucatowb to the netsplitters04:00
BluesKajwow...wtf is with this server ?04:00
octandamn about 1/2 the netwrok was down04:00
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Jucatonah it's a common thing on IRC..04:01
gpeekwhy?04:01
BluesKajmy audio hobby network is down as well04:01
octanyea04:01
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doczicosomebody have amarok collection working ? i've a taglib error04:01
BluesKajnot mine but my fav04:01
doczicoand dont find how to get it working :/04:02
aftertafwhich version of amarok?04:02
HippyJimso, "community support" only applies to people who are "in"? i did an update, my system broke, i spent the last hour chasing round the net, the forums are down, and everyone in irc ignores me or takes the mickey. yup - ubuntu is ready for the desktop. thank god my wife's not here04:02
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zamhi all04:03
aftertaflol jim04:03
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Jucatohm... wow04:03
Nick_Hey octan U said u may be able to help me?04:03
doczicoaftertaf: lastone , 2:1.4.3-0ubuntu904:03
gpeekwhy didnt' jim just post his question? Would have helped04:03
BluesKajwhy didn't hippyjim just ask his question instead of complaining :)04:03
octanNick_, yes maybe04:03
Jucato"I'm asking for free, volunteer support, and since you can't give it to me during the time that I demand it, you all suck..." ???04:03
Tm_TJucato: smells like it04:04
zami cant run any video using kaffeine case i need win32 codecs and libdvdcss how to install them ?04:04
Jucatooh well. :)04:04
aftertafkde 354 353 ?04:04
aftertafdoczico: ^^^04:04
Tm_TJucato: aye, he'll learn04:04
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octanNick_, you need to tell me about your setup04:04
octanim no mindreader04:05
aftertaf!restricted04:05
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:05
aftertafzam: ^^^^^^^^04:05
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Nick_zam: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs04:05
Jucatozam: you might want to look into the RestrictedFormats page linked above04:05
=== Cyraq downloads kubuntu beta
Cyraqis the beta way buggy, or is it usable?04:06
aftertafCyraq: rockin' :)04:06
v3ctorCyraq: it is not too bad04:06
gpeekCyraq: not many problems for me so far04:06
doczicoaftertaf: 4:3.5.4-0ubuntu2804:06
Cyraqoh well.04:06
=== Cyraq downloads
JucatoCyraq: a bit usable. but there might still be some changes along the way until the final release04:06
aftertafdoczico: hmm me too. upping  to 353 now.04:06
Cyraqyay, 15kbps -_-04:06
aftertafand amarok works fine04:06
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aftertafkde working great since edgy....04:07
doczicoaftertaf: juste go back to kde 3.5.3 ?04:07
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aftertafnah. meant 3.5.5 :)04:07
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aftertafdorry04:07
JucatoCyraq: well you better learn to wait a bit more :)04:07
aftertafsorry04:07
doczicoaftertaf: i've just installed kubuntu yesterday with the eggy 6.10 beta install cd04:07
aftertafjeez im bad on keyboard today04:07
Cyraqeggy?04:07
aftertafdoczico: ahh. ive upgraded each time since hoary04:08
tomazdoc, the edgy is usable at this point?04:08
tomazi'm willing to install here04:08
aftertafdoczico: have u updated since the cd install?04:08
Cyraqtomaz: so they say04:08
doczicoaftertaf: how to get 3.5.5 ?? i dont have it in repository i think04:08
Jucatowell there's a difference between "usable" and "completely stable"04:08
aftertaftrue ^04:08
Jucatodoczico: it's not available officially just yet04:08
Jucatoheck it's not even officially released from KDE afaik04:08
aftertafdoczico: kubuntu.org packages....04:08
Jucato3.5.5?04:09
aftertafbeta04:09
BluesKajonce kubuntu 6.10 is on official release , what's it going to be named ?04:09
JucatoBluesKaj: Kubuntu 6.10 :D04:09
BluesKaj;004:09
doczicoaftertaf: which pkg are you using for kde ? kdebase-bin ?04:09
aftertafdeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355/ edgy main04:09
BluesKajok what nick will it have ?04:09
aftertafi was on deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/ dapper main04:09
s-tonedSince my upgrade from breezy to dapper I've got problems with X: mga (and mga from Matrox too) won't work anymore, only vesa. Any hints?04:09
Jucatoaftertaf: that's for Edgy. don't give it away for Dapper04:09
doczicoso ok , no officilly , but on wich repository can i get it ?04:09
JucatoBluesKaj: it's already called Edgy Eft04:10
tomazbecause the 3.5.5 is not ready yet04:10
Nick_octan, I have this box which need's to nat the network here to the wi-fi network which is on a bridge off a different nic on this machine. This box is letting other pc's on this network access the wifi without having a masqurading rule in iptables. But the access it get's is as tho it's on the wi-fi network. If I connect to a box on the wi-fi it see's the network IP (192.168.2.1) instead of the IP of the server's wi-fi nic (10.11.0.10)04:10
doczicoyeah thx aftertaf :)04:10
aftertafJucato: which one? the kde-latest?04:10
Jucatoaftertaf: KDE 3.5.504:10
tomazkde 3.5.5 is not ready04:10
tomazis not even released04:10
tomaz=/04:10
Jucatoit's not even officially out from KDE04:10
aftertafhe's on edgy04:10
doczicoaftertaf: so i use the first one ?04:11
Jucatoit's meant to be for testing04:11
Jucatoeven on Edgy it's not yet an official release04:11
aftertafdoczico: no use the 2nd one04:11
doczicook but aftertaf you problem was the collection ? or just lauching amarok ?04:11
Nick_octan, It's as tho the connection is bridged instead of nat'ed04:11
doczicook thx04:11
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Jucatobtw, the kde-latest in Dapper is still KDE 3.5.404:12
aftertafdoczico: i never had a pb with amarok..... :)04:12
aftertafJucato: and for edgy it dont exist, right?04:13
aftertafis 3.5.5 that unsure right now?04:13
Jucatoaftertaf: yes. it's not even released yet04:13
Jucatoit's there for testing purposes only.04:14
doczicoso i ve problem with taglib in amarok .... i dont think to upgrade kde wil change anithing ...04:14
doczicoanything04:14
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aftertafyeah i know..... but thats never worried me that much... if it breaks i load enlightenment :)04:14
Jucatodoczico: what version of Amarok and KDE are you using?04:14
doczicoi just want to build a collection with amarok ....04:14
aftertafplus itll be out stale soon... they always release just after kubuntu 6 month.04:14
Jucatoaftertaf: the problem is that it *might* worry others :)04:14
doczicoamarok : 2:1.4.3-0ubuntu9 kde : 4:3.5.4-0ubuntu2804:15
aftertaftrue.... i didnt realise it was still SO testing actually. I stopped my apt-gettage :)04:15
octanNick_, i think you just can use route here04:15
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Jucatodoczico: please check if the dapper-backports repository is enabled. if it isn't, enable it then update04:15
aftertafdoczico: i have those same versions and its fine here :/04:16
octanroute add -net IP netmask 255.255.255.0 dev XXX the bridges04:16
doczicowich version of taglib did you use ?04:16
octanon both sides04:16
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aftertaf1.4-404:17
doczicook jucato i'll test that04:17
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octanNick_, come to #octans04:18
JucatoI have libtag1c2a04:18
doczicoJucato: wich version ?04:19
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doczicoi've test to enable backports , but nothing to upgrade ....04:19
Jucatodoczico: 1.4-4 from kubuntu.org repos.04:19
Jucatowhat's the exact error message that you get?04:20
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doczicoamarok stop building collection too much taglib errors ....04:22
Jucatohm...04:22
doczicoand a list of mp3 and other files ...04:22
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JucatoI think I've heard of that error before... let me try to recall04:22
doczicothat would be great Jucato :D04:23
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tonkyhi04:27
Jucatodoczico: what version of amarok again? (exact version?)04:27
tonkykann man kubuntu irgendwie ber die konsole installieren? dieser grafische mll lsst mich die platte nicht manuell bearbeiten04:27
tonkyoh english, sorry04:28
tonkyis it possible to install kubuntu via the console?04:28
doczicoamarok : 2:1.4.3-0ubuntu9 kde : 4:3.5.4-0ubuntu2804:28
doczicotonky: what did you mean via the console ?04:28
Jucatodoczico: where did you get that amarok version?04:29
v3ctorconnected via serial04:29
tonkyi booted the install cd into kde but the install app will not let me pertition my hdd as i want04:29
oheardtonky: try the alternate install CD, I think that uses the old ncurses installer.04:29
v3ctorheadless install04:29
doczicoJucato: i've just installer kubuntu eggy 6.10 beta yesterday04:29
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tonkyhmm i don't have tme to download the alternate install cd04:29
doczicoi think there ...04:29
Jucatodoczico: oh you're on edgy... great... @_@04:29
doczicoi used it04:29
doczicoyes it is ncurses ...04:30
oheardtonky: partition your drives with a different program?04:30
tonkyi can just delete the whole hdd....04:30
Jucatosorry I'm on Dapper :(04:30
v3ctortonky: try using fdisk04:30
doczicoJucato: what's that smile ? good or bad ?04:30
Jucatobad04:30
oheardtonky: try the gparted livecd, it's only a few megs to download04:30
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docziconiarf :/04:30
tonkyi thought that here is a nongraphical installtool on the cd04:31
doczicoJucato: do you think i can downgrade trough the dapper version of amarok and taglib ?04:31
Jucatotonky: not on the Desktop CD04:31
Jucatodoczico: probably not? I'm not exactly sure though04:31
tonkyok thank you very much im going to download the alternate cd... bye04:31
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v3ctorthe install cd does not have fsidk?04:32
v3ctorfdisk*04:32
Jucatoit does.04:32
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doczicoho seriously that sucks ..... gentooo powahhhhh04:32
Jucatoit doesn't have a text based installer though04:32
Jucatodoczico: I'm not (yet) familiar enough with edgy04:32
v3ctoryou could use nongraphical parttiton toll then have installer leave parttitons as they are04:33
doczicoi understand , no probleme04:33
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doczicojust i want my fucking amarok collection backkkkk04:34
doczicoloooooooooool04:34
BluesKajdoczico.hewre is a list of reositories that you can add to your sources list to get the latest amarok offering  http://pastebin.ca/19303404:35
BluesKajerr repositories04:35
JucatoBluesKaj: he's having problems with the latest amarok update on Edgy04:35
BluesKajok , err sorry i couldn't help :(04:36
Jucatodoczico: I'll it on vmware...04:36
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doczicothx BluesKaj :) i'll test04:38
BluesKajit's for dapper , doczico04:38
oheardEdgy isn't released yet.04:38
doczicoarf ...04:38
doczicoi've read , but after my reply ;p04:38
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Jucatooheard: not the stable release. but beta has been released04:38
oheardI know.04:39
oheard:-)04:39
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BluesKajthe stable release is supposed to be out on Oct 2604:39
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Jucatowhat drink?04:39
BluesKajtoo early for a drink here04:39
Jucatotoo late for one here04:40
BluesKajhehe04:40
BluesKajnever too late , just early04:40
Jucatohah...04:40
doczicodooohh 20 days :/04:41
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Jucatodoczico: that's strange... I can still build collections in Edgy using that exact same version of amarok04:45
BluesKajamarock is amarock i guess04:46
BluesKajerr amarok04:46
doczicoyes but i'm think that come from my files ... but why ? i juste installed kubuntu in place of gentoo ... that's the same partition ...04:48
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Jucatodoczico: try switching what database you are using? from SQLite to MySQL?04:49
doczicomysql04:49
BluesKajjust heard reports of several irc nets being down this morn ....wonder what's happening...major denial of service attacks ?04:49
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bluch!vlan04:51
ubotuvlan: user mode programs to enable VLANs on your ethernet devices. In component main, is extra. Version 1.9-1 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 132 kB04:51
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det_where do i get a decent video player and preferably loads of codecs. i would like to use adept, but i fear this might end in some self-compiled mplayer04:56
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BluesKajwhat's wrong with mplayer ?04:57
Jucatodecent player = Kaffeine. loads of codecs = libxine-extracodecs + w32codecs04:57
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Jucatoa good player would be VLC or MPlayer04:57
det_with the standard installation, i can only play mpegs and have no sound. movs and avis do not work04:57
Jucatodet_: the standard installation doesn't have the codecs for proprietary media formats04:58
det_but adept doesn't offer them, does anyone have some of those extra package sources where i can get all this stuff comfortably?04:58
Jucatoyou just need to install libxine-extracodecs (from the repositories) and w32codecs (direct download)04:58
Jucato!mp304:58
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:58
Jucatodet_: read that part about RestrictedFormats04:58
Jucatodet_: you need to enable "multiverse" to get libxine-extracodecs04:59
Jucato!multi04:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about multi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:59
Jucato!multiverse04:59
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:59
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Jucatodet_: this one on how to enable multiverse ^^^04:59
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det_thanks Jucato, ubotu, bbl then :-)04:59
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det_any nice howto about multimedia with a 64 bit system?05:08
Jucatoaw... w32codecs will be a problem...05:09
det_yes, i read about a chroot environment05:09
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det_but don't like to hack this all by myself...05:09
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JucatoI'm not sure if Automatix or EasyUbuntu would make that easier (not sure if they work for 64-bit)05:12
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det_a second kernel is not sufficient?05:13
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Jucatohm.. probably a 32-bit kernel would be ok... I'm not really familiar with it05:14
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azzcoHi I've got kubuntu installed but I wish to create a /home partion now. I've got the free space on HDD But how do I set ubuntu to recognise that partion as /home?05:17
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azzcoDo I need to make the /home folder extended or primary?05:19
azzcofolder=partition05:19
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Jucatoazzco: either would do05:20
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azzcoJucato: and ubuntu will recognise it right away? I think that I read something about that it should be mounted during creation of the partition...05:22
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_Shade_is there any way to install kubuntu from an iso image ?05:23
oheard*sings*05:23
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oheard_Shade_: in a virtual machine maybe...05:23
azzco_Shade_: I think that you'll have to burn it unless as stated being installed in a VM05:23
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Hyperazzco: That's what I did (1) move home to home_old (2) create the dir "home" again (3) mount the new harddrive in there (4) move the contents of "home_old" back to "home" (5) edit fstab to mount permanently the new drive as /home (6) reboot and pray05:24
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azzco=) THX Hyper... you don't know a link for a tutorial do you? couldn't find one myself I'm still searching though05:25
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_Shade_well i could do it from windows using instlux project, but it doesn't support 6.10 yet05:25
Hyperazzco: for what part do you need help05:26
oheard_Shade_: you could install 6.06 with it then upgrade to 6.10... or wait until you have a blank CD and 6.10 is finished. :-)05:26
azzcoHyper: I'm not so sure about mounting right now05:27
_Shade_oheard unfortunately - i cant dist-upgrade, because my system crashes when i do so05:27
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oheard_Shade_: maybe wait for 6.10 to be finished then? ;-)05:28
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azzco_Shade_: are you trying to dist-upgrade to 6.10?05:28
Hyperazzco: you know what the new harddrive is called?05:28
_Shade_azzco yes05:28
oheardFred.05:28
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azzcoHyper: I'm creating a partion and I'm doing it ATM :)05:29
oheardWell I thought it was funny... _05:29
_Shade_azzco is it bad then?05:29
azzco_Shade_: stay with Ubuntu Dapper for now ;) (6.06)05:29
_Shade_ok i will05:29
azzcoHyper: I think that the new partion is called sda105:30
tkhmmm, installing kde-desktop over ubuntu isnt quite as pleasing as just installing kubuntu :(05:31
oheardIt never is. xD05:31
det_why doesn't amarok play anythin? kde is running alsa afaik, and the xine engine is configured to use alsa, but i don't hear a thing05:31
azzcoHyper: Maybe I should do this from liveCD? changing name on /home while using it isn't such a good idea right?05:31
ohearddet_: turn up the volume?05:31
HyperI did it while being in shell only05:32
Hyperbrb05:32
det_oheard: i got system sounds loud enough...05:32
ohearddet_: have you restarted Amarok since you got the codecs installed for it?05:32
Jucatodet_: trying to play MP3's?05:32
det_i try to play mp3s, and amarok just skips through them...05:33
oheard!mp305:33
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:33
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oheardSee the first link, after installing the package needed restart Amarok.05:33
Jucatodet_: told you about "libxine-extracodecs" remember?05:33
det_Jucato: yes, but i can't install them on 64 bit05:34
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ohearddet_: also, Amarok stays in the systray, right click it and choose quit to close it fully.05:34
Jucatodet_: yes you can.05:34
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Jucatodet_: w32codecs are the ones you can't05:34
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marvin__hola05:35
det_Jucato: don't seem to have the right repository for those extracodecs...05:36
oheard!multiverse05:36
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:36
marvin__hay alguien que able esp05:36
ohearddet_: see that link.05:36
oheard!es05:36
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.05:36
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Jucatodet_: I also told you about "multiverse" remember? :)05:36
marvin__ubuntu es05:37
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det_Jucato yes, but this doesn't make any difference...05:38
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Jucatodet_: if you enabled the correct multiverse repo, and clicked on Fetch Updates before searching for libxine-extracodecs, it will make a difference05:38
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det_damn, forgot to "apply changes"05:39
oheardxD05:39
Jucato @_@05:39
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kutancan someone help me fix this error when configuring an application?05:40
kutan"checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!"05:40
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Jucatokutan: is kde-devel installed?05:40
kutanHmmm I'll check05:40
Jucatonot sure if that's the right package though :)05:40
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marvin__hola luis05:42
kutanHmmm installing it now but Jucato... Are you like your own walking library or something?05:42
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kutanSeriously..05:43
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Jucatokutan: lol05:43
Jucatojust a coincidence :)05:43
kutanYou're a genius, it worked.05:44
kutanThanks :D05:44
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Jucatohah smart guess  :)05:45
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oheard:o05:45
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jtyler4jucanto: what experience do you have with linux?05:46
oheardGNU+Linux*05:47
Jucatojtyler4: almost 10 months worth :)05:47
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jtyler4cool.05:48
jtyler4jucato: are you in the industry before that?05:48
Jucatonope05:48
jtyler4jucato: so you've had theat problem yourself?05:49
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JucatoI've had some, I've heard of them, or I've seen others solve them :)05:50
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jtyler4jucato: I've been used something like 10 different distros since 97 when I got started. I was jsut curious05:51
Jucatoaah... actually I haven't used other distros as much (yet)05:51
JucatoI've only used MEPIS for a few days. Ubuntu for 3 weeks (does that count?)05:51
jtyler4oheard: when a package is named something like -dev it is a development library and contains the shared libraries for compiling code or functionality of an app05:52
oheardI was a distro junkie for 5 years until I found (K)Ubuntu... no idea how many distros I used in that time...05:53
jtyler4Linux is pretty much linux.05:53
Jucatooh sorry I didn't notice oheard's "question"05:53
oheardjtyler4: I know about the -dev thing... I'm a developer myself... (not a Kubuntu developer though)05:53
oheardI make heavy use of development packages. :-)05:53
jtyler4There are many different philophies on how to setup initiate files or manage software05:54
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jtyler4oheard seams like a classic username.05:54
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oheardIt is, my system username... I figured why waste time changing my IRC nick when there is a default that works. :-D05:55
oheardjtyler4: PMs are blocked until I register my nick... one sec...05:56
jtyler4ok05:56
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MasterEvilAceanyone else's kubuntu usplash off-centered in EDGY?05:58
kutanokay I installed a program... how do I run it? :\06:00
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kutanUsually I just type the name of the program in the command line but I guess that ain't the case06:00
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Dr_willisdepends on the program kulbir06:01
Dr_willisoops kutan06:01
Dr_willis:)06:01
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kulbirDr_willis: ?06:02
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damjanwhere can I find compiz-core or is there any other way to install compiz on Dapper?06:02
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plmam problem z ubuntu06:02
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Dr_williskulbir,  typo. :P06:02
Dr_willis!compwiz06:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about compwiz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:03
Dr_willis!xgl06:03
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems06:03
kulbirDr_willis: K :)06:03
pljak cos zainstalowac w ubuntu?06:03
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Jucatokutan: what did you compile/install?06:04
jtyler4Evil: I've notived that my login screen uses a virtual sized desktop... menaing that the borders move the placement of login06:04
kutan"SolSeek"06:04
kutanJust a little program that shows satellite images of the sun. :x06:05
pljest ktos z polski?06:05
kutanfound it on kde-apps.org06:05
oheard!pl06:05
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl06:05
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oheard*wonders if he got the language right*06:05
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Jucatohm.. try running it from the command line? using the package/app name?06:06
kutanI tried06:06
pla gdzie mam tego szukac?06:06
Dr_williskutan,  fire up the package manager.. select the package.. see what files it installed06:06
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Jucatokutan: what's the name of the app? (a link would be nice)06:07
kutanoh06:07
kutanheh sorry hold on06:07
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kutanhttp://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=3131106:07
Dr_willisor use the apt:// tool :P06:08
kutanapt:// tool?06:08
JucatoDr_willis: apt:/ :P06:08
Jucatokutan: tried typing "solseek"?06:09
Dr_willisapt:////////////////////////////06:09
Dr_willis:P06:09
kutanyes06:09
kutanit says command not found >_>06:09
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Dr_willis!info solseek06:09
ubotuPackage solseek does not exist in any distro I know06:09
Dr_willispackage not found either :)06:09
damjan!info compiz06:09
now3dHello, Could anyone tell me if there will be updated KDE 3.5.5 packages available for Kubuntu 6.06 please?06:09
Jucatohm...06:09
ubotucompiz: OpenGL composition manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.2-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 125 kB, installed size 424 kB06:09
Jucatonow3d: none yet06:09
damjan!info compiz-core06:10
ubotuPackage compiz-core does not exist in any distro I know06:10
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now3dJuncato: Do you know if there is any plan to release packages for Kubuntu 6.06 ?06:11
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now3dIn Konqueror filemanager, when I press F9 my directory browser appears -- does anyone know the official name for this area of the window?06:12
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Jucatonow3d: Navigation Panel06:13
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kutanTry compiling it for yourself Jucato?06:18
kutanMaybe it's just me06:18
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Jucatoerr... sorry I don't have the time to  compile it myself :(06:18
kutanah06:18
kutanokay06:18
kutanI see how it is.06:18
kutanI GET IT06:18
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kutanlol I'll ask someone else.06:19
Jucato??06:19
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now3dJucato: thx06:19
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tejinderafter the upgrade, my drivers are not mounted at boot automatically, why?06:21
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tejinderdrivers/drives06:21
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now3dtejinder: mabye there is a bug or a fault with your drives, check your /etc/fstab file and see if they are marked "auto"06:23
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tejindernow3d: it worked before the upgrade, and yes /etc/fstab has all those drives marked as auto. and also when i try to mount the drivers manually by clicking on storage devices in konqueror, it says an error occured06:25
bluch!Fuse06:25
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse06:25
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bluch!fuseiso06:25
ubotufuseiso: FUSE module to mount ISO filesystem images. In component universe, is optional. Version 20060107-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 13 kB, installed size 80 kB06:25
Dink!mdf06:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mdf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:26
now3dtjinder: type: tail -f /var/log/messages   and then do the command again and see what it says06:26
bluch!mountiso06:26
ubotuTo mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows06:26
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tejindernow3d: does'nt say anything at all06:27
Dinkbluch I tried that still wont do it :(06:27
oheardtejinder: did you upgrade to 6.10?06:27
tejinderoheard: yea06:27
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now3dtejinder: in another window type: mount /media/foobar_mount   or what ever it is called, then look at the message log again06:27
oheard_06:27
det_any channel for 64bit issues?06:28
Dinki get the wrong fs type error06:28
now3dtejinder: type, "mount" and does it show any thing relavent to indicate a problem?06:28
Dinkeven tried mdf2iso and same thing06:28
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now3dDink: what is the problem..?06:29
DinkI cant mount a .mdf image06:29
trappistdet_: this one06:29
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Dinkeven tried mdf2iso to see if the iso will do it06:30
tejindernow3d: it does'nt display all my drives, only the ones which are used by ubuntu06:30
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tejindernow3d: and yes i can mount them manually using command line06:30
now3dDink: mdf is a proprietary format, contact Alcohol 120% and ask them to publish the specifications06:30
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Dr_willisall the mdf images ive seen are of copyprotected/games/cds   :) converting them to .iso   can lose some of the special info on those files06:30
Dinkhttp://pastebin.ca/19313906:31
det_right, i installed totem and w32codecs via a chrooted synaptic package manager, but totem does not play ANYTHING06:31
now3dtejinder: I wonder why they don't mount at startup, they definately have "auto" ?  Are they on a Raid drive or soething? are they SATA or IDE?06:31
trappistdet_: how are you running totem06:32
trappistdet_: totem itself also needs to run from the chroot06:32
tejindernow3d: IDE06:32
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tejinderthere is no RAID06:32
DinkI tried ...   sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 image.mdf MountPoint06:32
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trappistDink: yeah that's not likely to work06:32
det_trappist: of course, and it is only installed in the chroot environment06:32
Dinkeven image.iso06:32
Dr_willisa .mdf has extra data with it06:32
Dinkbastages06:33
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trappistdet_: I really don't even know whether totem uses w32codecs.  I use mplayer for everything but dvds.06:33
kutanhttp://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/gallery/EIT/index.html06:33
now3dDink: proprietary format's can only be supported when the vendor, Alcohol 120% publish the speciifcation06:33
kutanthat beats the program06:33
Dr_willisThats sort of the reason for the format being made. :P06:33
now3dtejinder: what abou the other questions?06:33
pointwood_hi, any suggestions for a way to resize a lot of pictures in one go?06:33
trappistdet_: also, I do have trouble playing some wmv9 files on amd64, no matter what I do06:34
now3dpointwood_: ImageMagic?06:34
det_trappist: just installed mplayer and works. even with wmv (dunno which version though)06:34
Dinkso i pretty much have to get the person to reimage it ?06:34
trappistyeah some of those do work for me, but the only things I could play on ye olde x86 that I can't play now are wmv906:35
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pointwood_now3d: I would have to script it then, wouldn't I?06:35
kutanhttp://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/gallery/EIT/eit_199605_195_high_cadence.mpg06:35
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trappistdet_: totem might want some crazy gstreamer codecs or something.  try the package list from the RestrictedFormats wiki page.06:35
DinkDo you think alcohol120 will install with crossover ??06:36
det_trappist: will try that06:37
trappistDink: I'd put money on it06:37
Dinkgoing to try 6 beta2 first06:37
littlebrean_!list06:37
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage06:37
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Dinknope with 6beta 206:39
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Dinkgoing to 5pro06:39
Dinkbastages :P06:39
flaia06:40
trappistDink: you could also try cedega.  come to think of it, they've put a lot more work into cd copy protection than cxoffice.06:40
Dinkthat was next on my list :P06:40
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Dinknope ima google abit06:42
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Dr_williscd copy protection - is one of the reasins ive given up on windows gaming...06:45
SolveneqHey guys, i got wifi working, how do i make it so i dont have to do modprobe ndiswrapper every time? also, make it so it keeps the location im connecting to?06:45
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Dr_willisDink,  what game is this anyway?06:45
Dinkthe funniest thing its not even a game :P06:45
Dr_willisthen theres not much point in it being in mdf format.06:45
Dinkhe just used alcohol to image files06:45
PhlogistiqueSolveneq: you are supposed to do all that with graphical conf tools06:45
det_which gstreamer package adds support for quicktime?06:46
Dr_willishe could rip to iso in 1/10th the time06:46
Dinkyea ima have him do that problem is he will have to reup06:46
det_trappist, i indeed had to install the gstreamer codecs for w3206:46
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SolveneqPhlogistique: Like?06:46
SolveneqSorry, big newb here :)06:47
Dr_willismdf2iso dont work eh?06:47
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Dinkit converted it yeah but still wont mount06:47
arunkaledoes anyone here know of any good internet streaming application?06:47
Dinkhttp://pastebin.ca/19313906:48
Dr_willisDink,  kiso is supposed tobe able to read those also06:48
PhlogistiqueSolveneq: hum, systemsettings ?06:48
Phlogistique(altough it doesn't work with me)06:48
Dinkhmm06:48
Dinkinstalling now06:48
Dr_willisDink,  or so google sez06:48
Dr_willis:)06:48
Solveneqheh06:49
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tkoi, apache2 makes things complicated (more so than apache) to add vhosts :(06:49
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cojyhi06:49
Dinknope on kiso06:50
cojyI need a little help06:50
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cojyany offer?06:50
cojy:)06:50
Dr_willisDink,  it may need the mdf2iso tool installed and confogured06:50
guptacojy: just ask!06:50
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oheardcojy: you're best off just asking your question, if anybody can help they likely will. :-)06:50
Dr_willissince i have no mdfs to test. :P06:50
Solveneqhrm, heres another one, i just did the package install for kubuntu desktop, how do i get it to boot into it?06:50
Dinkmdf2iso is installed06:50
cojyI wanted to install mplayer on ubuntu06:50
cojybut in the terminal it gives me the next error06:51
cojyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/local/lib/libdha.so.1.0': Permission denied06:51
oheardSolveneq: in the login manager you should have an option for session, choose KDE. :-D06:51
tkSolveneq: when you get to the login screen,  click options or whatever and select KDE....06:51
oheardcojy: try running it with sudo first, then close it and try again.06:52
Dr_willisDink,  try a 'file  whatever.mdf'  :)06:52
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Dr_willisDink,  try a 'file  whatever.iso'   also06:52
Dr_willisDink,  and what was your mount command to mont the thing06:52
cojywhat is sodo?...the terminal?06:52
Solveneqsuper user do!06:53
Dinkfile blah.mdf returned blah.mdf:data06:53
v3ctorswitch user do ;)06:53
DinkI tried ...   sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 blah.mdf MountPoint06:53
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Solveneqthats weird, i didnt see KDE06:54
danny500does anybody know why my fucking internet browser keeps cutting off?06:54
v3ctordanny500: most likely it doesn't like your language06:54
danny500very funny06:54
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cojyhow do I run it with sodo?06:55
v3ctor!language06:55
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:55
danny500no body in this room can say that they don't swear so don't even start with that crap06:55
v3ctori can say that06:55
v3ctorso please stop06:55
danny500well anyways, I've had firefox kick of almost 20 times so far06:55
danny500for no reason06:56
danny500It's can't be my connection because it's a 5mb/s06:56
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v3ctorwhat type of sites does it crash on?06:56
danny500all of them06:57
danny500I can be reading my email and it will just randomly shut off06:57
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danny500maybe ubuntu is having a hisy fit06:58
LivingCoolerHi, can I use the Live CD for an rsync server?06:58
danny500depends how fast your computer is06:58
ohearddanny500: does it just disappear completely with no warning whatsoever?06:58
DinkDr_Willis, any other ideas :)06:58
danny500yes06:58
DinkDr_willis, even06:58
danny500no warnings at all, iot just disapears06:59
ohearddanny500: run it in the terminal, when it dies again, check the last output for "Segmentation fault", if it says that it's either a bug in firefox or your computers memory is faulty.06:59
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heyholmezhi06:59
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danny500how do I start it in the terminal?06:59
LivingCoolerCan I use rsync from the Live CD to backup 'to' an ftp server ?06:59
v3ctoropen terminal and type firefox07:00
heyholmezme was going to install kubuntu last night on me lappy, but it stalls at 'loading kernel 100%'. using compaq v3010us07:00
danny500depends on how fast you computer is07:00
ohearddanny500: K menu -> System -> konsole, then type firefox and press enter.07:00
danny500heyholmez: are you three years old?07:00
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v3ctorLivingCooler: yes to all of your questions so far07:00
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cojyto install a program in the terminal, do I have to write anything but ./configure, make, make install?07:01
heyholmezwhat does age have to do with this07:01
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danny500you just type like a little kid07:01
v3ctorcojy: ./configure, make, sudo make install07:01
oheardcojy: it all depends on the program, there should be a README file and an INSTALL file, read those and there should be instructions on what to do.07:01
heyholmezits for humor. sory i forgot to take things seriously07:01
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apokryphoscojy: please read the FAQ first07:01
danny500if you want people to help you they have to at least understand what you want07:01
cojyok..didn't thought at that....thank you07:02
heyholmezI want to inform youthat my install failed07:02
danny500ok try it again07:02
heyholmezdid about 3 times07:02
v3ctordanny500: this channel is international, some users only know english as a second07:02
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danny500o ok07:02
v3ctorlets not resort to insults07:02
heyholmezi didnt check what was going on i just watched the graphical install07:02
danny500what type of cpu are you using?07:02
danny500amd or intel?07:02
heyholmezturion x207:02
danny500o07:02
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heyholmezyes i dld the right iso07:03
danny500It might not be able to run on that type of architecture] 07:03
oheardheyholmez: did you get any errors? If so what were they?07:03
heyholmezill have to check i will in a sec07:03
danny500turion x2 as far as I know is a business cpu07:03
oheardOkay.07:03
heyholmezi found it strange that it didnt work :-P07:03
rampage my opera wont start after install07:03
heyholmezok checking07:03
rampage but its showing icon on internet section07:04
danny500what name is the os you want to use again?07:04
ohearddanny500: GNU+Linux is the most powerful OS on earth... it runs on anything from iPods to super computers, I'm pretty sure it can handle a Turion :P07:04
heyholmezthe recent kubuntu for amd6407:04
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raul12 plz help07:04
danny500thats why07:04
danny500it for amd07:05
danny500not turion which is a intel chip07:05
heyholmezturion is amd07:05
tobias__I need a little help :)  I was on the site cartoonnettwork in the games-section and I saw I had to install a Adobe flashplayer, and they have a linux version at this page "http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash"07:05
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raul12 guys i need help07:05
tobias__is there an installable thing in adept?07:05
danny500what? I thought it was intel turion07:05
raul12 my opera showing icon but not running07:05
heyholmezit just hangs up at 'loading /casper/initrd.gz07:05
danny500use firefox07:05
oheardtobias__: you need flashplayer-nonfree :-)07:05
tobias__oheard: its in adept? thanks! :)07:06
v3ctorraul12: open konsile and run it from there, this may give you error explaining the problem07:06
v3ctorkonsole*07:06
oheard!info flashplayer-nonfree07:06
ubotuPackage flashplayer-nonfree does not exist in any distro I know07:06
heyholmezanyway I just wanted to inform you guys, should I email someone about it?07:06
oheard:O07:06
oheardLIAR!07:06
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tobias__hmm07:06
tobias__is it called something else?07:07
danny500try to find a blog about it or something07:07
heyholmezor manybe it just takes forever and a day to load the kernel07:07
raul12 well  libqt-mt.so.3 these liabray is missing07:07
guptaraul12: run this in termial "opera -pd ~/temp"07:07
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apokryphostobias__: check the FAQ07:07
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oheard!info flashplugin-nonfree07:07
tobias__apo: thanx07:07
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)07:07
oheardThere we go! :-D07:07
danny500yeah like installing windows07:07
danny500takes forever07:07
heyholmezback to suse07:07
tobias__woo07:07
guptaraul12: I think I know why.. wait...07:07
tobias__iyts there07:07
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heyholmezme loves suse07:08
tobias__its even07:08
raul12 well i cant find the lib file07:08
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danny500what you guy's think about windows vista?07:08
oheardI think it should be burried and never spoken of again...07:08
tobias__oh07:08
danny500let me, guess, I hate windows, linux is the best.07:08
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danny500blah, blah, blah07:09
nukuraul12: what opera did you install? the .6-shared-qt one?07:09
ohearddanny500: no, I have vista... you are ignorant...07:09
danny500you like it so far?07:09
tobias__I seem to have the flashplayer nonfree, it seems that on cartoon netvorks pages they use adobes flashplayer which I never heard of before.07:09
oheardIt's a PoS.07:09
v3ctordanny500: i think that the computers needed to run it well are to pricey for most users07:09
danny500well it's only a beta version07:09
guptaraul12: yup nuku's right.. u need to download the 6.shared wt one and the 5...deb one07:10
danny500I heard that the real version won't need all the power it say's it does07:10
raul12 well i have these error promt libqt-mt.so.3 is missing07:10
tobias__do not speak of the hateth os!07:10
danny500what? windows?07:10
tobias__aaah!07:10
raul12 plz spicify exact file name07:10
tobias__the word was uttered once more :(07:10
danny500sorry. lol07:10
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tmdx120identify 5percent07:10
nukuraul12: opera_9.02-20060919.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb07:11
ohearddanny500: it's not even out and people have developed viruses for it, no doubt it's full of DRM, it's best kept away from imo.07:11
raul12 where can i download that file ???07:11
v3ctorraul12: try google07:11
tmdx120need help with kmail can anyone help me?07:12
oheardraul12: install Opera from the repositories and you shouldn't have a problem.07:12
danny500mac is the worst os so far. Did you know that windows xp actually runs 2x faster on a mac computer then osx does.07:12
guptaTry : http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?distro=ubuntu&id=28354%2C28352&location=101&sub=++++&x=46&y=707:12
raul12 but i want to install it offline07:12
danny500thats pretty bad07:12
nukuoheard: well the commerical repo opera is still 9.00 which is bad due to some bugfixes and ssl certificate issues..07:12
ohearddanny500: your argument is flawed... XP is 5 years old...07:12
paddy2khow old is NT4?07:13
danny500yeah and07:13
oheardnuku: oh I see.07:13
danny500they've already proved it07:13
tobias__sb07:13
v3ctorpaddy2k: 10years?07:13
ohearddanny500: I doubt vista will run 2x as fast on a mac than os x...07:13
cojyhow can i have the full access of the system?07:13
danny500xp does that already07:13
nukuthe 9.02 works without problems installed from the right deb..07:13
paddy2kv3ctor: thanx07:13
tmdx120any kmail gurus out there?07:13
v3ctorpaddy2k: rough guess07:14
danny500maximum pc did a test on it07:14
cojyI can't even rename the linux partition (filesystem)07:14
tobias__should i install "libflash-mozplugin"? would it save me?07:14
tmdx120I need to know if you can use kmail to show aol email?07:14
ohearddanny500: but you see OS X is modern, new, sexy, XP isn't...07:14
danny500they speed test both os's on the new mac and windows ran 2x faster07:14
v3ctortmdx120: does aol email support POP?07:14
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Solveneqwoah07:14
Solveneqi changed to kubuntu and my display is going insane07:15
danny500I don't care about looks, I care about performence07:15
cojyhow can i have the full access of the system?07:15
ohearddanny500: I can run windows ME 5x faster than windows XP in vmware, ME must be so much better! :O07:15
cojyI can't even rename the linux partition (filesystem)07:15
nukuraul: wget http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-434/intel-linux/en/opera_9.02-20060919.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb07:15
nukuraul12: ..07:15
v3ctorlol @ oheard07:15
paddy2kcojy: you have to become a superuser07:15
tmdx120v3ctor: No, I dont think so. I have to check.07:15
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danny500yeah your right. And ME is extremly fast online for some reason07:15
cojyand hoq do I do that?07:15
raul12i am working on it07:15
nukuraul12: this will give you the deb you can install via "sudo dpkg -i opera_9.02-20060919.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb"07:15
raul12@naku07:15
paddy2kcojy: in konsole type sudo before your command to have root privilages07:16
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cojyokay :) thanks07:16
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paddy2kcojy: to open a program with root privilages in the KDE hit ALT-F2 then type "kdesu <program>"07:17
raul12 but why my 1st package which i downloaded from opera did not run07:17
raul12 ???07:17
dimsuzhi! how do I setup xorg so I can enter (C) simbol?07:17
dimsuzsome xkb magic needed? :)07:17
raul12 @nuku07:17
paddy2kraul12: are you using kubuntu?07:17
raul12 yup07:17
raul12 6.0607:18
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nukuraul12: well opera supports alot of distributions which have different libs... so you need to get the one appropiate for ubuntu :)07:18
danny500which is the best linux so far?07:18
tmdx120v3ctor: It supports IMAP07:18
paddy2kraul12: I installed Opera 0.02 just fine on the same distro by selecting Ubuntu as my distro in the downloads page and it works perfectly. (like right now)07:18
raul12 but not mine07:19
raul12 i have download the .deb and zip package07:19
raul12 tryed both07:19
danny500use firefox07:19
paddy2kraul12: did you try getting it from the canonical repository in adept?07:19
raul12 but now the icon comes up sometimes dance then gone07:19
danny500it's better then opera anyways07:20
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paddy2kOpera's way better!07:20
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raul12 well i have downloaded it manually07:20
raul12 from opera07:20
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danny500are you kiding?07:20
raul12 site07:20
ohearddanny500: people are entitled to choose the software they want. :-)07:20
raul12 nope not even 0.01 %07:20
raul12 still opera kinda better07:21
raul12 slightly slower than fire07:21
nukuopera slower than fx?!07:21
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nukunever happend to see that :p07:21
raul12  slightly07:21
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danny500well if you can't get opera. why waist all your time when you prob already have firefox installed07:21
nukufx is WAY slower than fx..07:21
nukuopera :)07:21
oheardI tend to find firefox the most memory eating/leaking program in existance... so I use konqueror for the integration with KDE. :-D07:21
nukuis faster07:21
nukui make no sense :p07:22
raul12 well i want to waste time in solving the problem07:22
raul12 not installing opera07:22
paddy2kraul12: try getting it from the repos. that way it "should" work without any trouble. want the repos link?07:22
nukuraul12: still does not work? with the package i told you?07:22
Admiral_Chicagothe GUI is superior to Opera, Konqui IMO07:22
raul12 yup07:22
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raul12 yup it is07:22
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danny500hey, a browser is a browser07:22
v3ctorkonqueror is the only browser for me ;)07:22
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raul12 well i did ask my question if u didnt see07:23
danny500who cares how fast it is07:23
raul12 @ubotu07:23
danny500as long as it works07:23
Admiral_Chicagofood now ttul07:23
oheardSays the guy who claims Windows is better than OS X because it's faster...07:23
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v3ctorlol07:23
paddy2kLOL07:23
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nukuraul12: an unlikely case is that you may have to "apt-get install libqt3-mt"07:24
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v3ctor"I don't care about looks, I care about performence"07:24
oheardxD07:25
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danny500I only meant that for os's07:25
danny500not browsers07:25
_Shade_i'm going to upgrade my dapper to edgy beta. Is it safe ?07:25
paddy2kdanny500: stop digging!07:25
danny500?07:25
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oheard_Shade_: I would wait until it's released if I was you.07:25
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_Shade_oheard well i don't expect anything stable, i just wanted to test a bit07:26
nukuhehe wonders how an os with an O(2^n) thread sheduler would perform :p07:26
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oheard_Shade_: then by all means go ahead, :-D07:27
raul12libqt3-mt these lib file is already installed07:27
_Shade_but last time i did that (dapper -> edgy knot3 it did not launch)07:27
danny500I'm not using a shovel. I'm using a backhoe lol07:27
v3ctor_Shade_: it is plenty stable enough for testing07:27
tmdx120v3ctor: It supports IMAP07:27
nukuraul12: and you still get missing libqt when running opera form konsole?07:27
raul12yup07:27
v3ctortmdx120: I don't care about looks, I care about performence07:28
v3ctordoh07:28
v3ctorwrong paste07:28
tmdx120v3ctor: ???07:28
nukuraul12: maybe you have broken something by installing it by hand before :p07:28
v3ctortmdx120: http://www.mepis.org/olddocs/kmail-setup/07:28
tmdx120v3ctor: LOL THANKS!!!07:28
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raul12and the .deb package link i got07:28
raul12dont help much07:29
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_Shade_ok, so i will try07:29
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danny500lol07:29
raul12it says architecture mis match07:29
nukuraul12: ah you are on x64?!07:29
raul12i have x64 and it is i38607:29
raul12yup07:29
nukuok i see07:29
raul12some 1 said it can be installed07:29
raul12on x6407:29
nukuthats the problem i guess :)07:29
_Shade_i suppose i should perform a clean install of dapper first ?07:30
danny500probably07:30
danny500yeah07:30
danny500you don't want to do a dirty install07:30
v3ctorwhy not do a clean install of edgy beta?07:30
danny500you'll have o clean you cpu then07:30
danny500lol07:30
nukuraul12: you may try the statically linked version then.. http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-434/intel-linux/en/opera-static_9.02-20060919.1-qt_en_i386.deb07:31
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_Shade_v3ctor because i don't have it burnt yet - i have to do dist-upgrade07:31
v3ctorahh07:31
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_Shade_v3ctor do you think it will work ?07:31
v3ctori did the same thing with this xubuntu07:32
v3ctorit will work07:32
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nukuraul12: but i don't know much about x64 installations.. you might be able to have a lib32/ or something like that with the appropiate libs there..07:32
nukuraul12: but there are probably people who can tell you more about it :)07:32
_Shade_v3ctor it did not for knot 3... but it's beta at all :)07:32
v3ctori did it 2 days ago07:32
raul12but not finding them ^_^ lol07:32
nukuraul12: hehe well it was not clear that you use x64 ...07:33
v3ctorfresh dapper server install > upgrade to edgy > install xubuntu-desktop07:33
raul12lol07:33
_Shade_v3ctor i'll try then... may i use synaptic or adept, or should it be @ init307:33
raul12but from herre some 1 told me that i386 can be installed on x6407:33
nukuraul12: its a more common setup to have a hybrid installation for 32bit libs in general07:33
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v3ctoralways safer in single user mode07:33
v3ctorless things running07:34
paddy2kraul12: I think you using an x64 box is the issue here. Thats why Ubuntu ship a seperate x64 version (and mac version)07:34
raul12well i have intstalled all lib32 files07:34
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nukuraul12: well try the static one .. the link i gave you.. you may have luck with it..07:34
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raul12i am on it07:34
oheardDoes Opera not have a 64bit build?07:34
trappistnot that I know of07:35
raul12nope07:35
oheardThat's a little silly...07:35
nukuraul12: you may have to do something like export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib32 or wherever they are07:35
nukuhehe almost all browser plugins are 32bit too :p07:35
raul12where i can make these change07:35
raul12LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib3207:36
danny500who's DCC?07:36
nukuraul12: in konsole try this..   "LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib32 opera"07:36
paddy2kthey only have an i386 build http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-434/intel-linux/en/07:36
_Shade_v3ctor ok thanks then.... awww... i have one more question: if i do the update and the packages are downloading, can i simply poweroff my machine and then continue the process at a later time or do i have to do it at once?07:36
nukubut as i told you i am not into x64 installations so its just a blind guess ..07:36
v3ctoras long as they are not installing...it *should* be ok07:36
nukuand i bet the static version might work for you07:36
_Shade_ah thanx then07:37
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v3ctoryou could use the download only option07:37
danny500who's DCC?07:37
v3ctorthen upgrade later07:37
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raul12ok07:37
danny500how do you do that? ^07:37
_Shade_v3ctor and the syntax is... ?07:37
paddy2kI've a question. Would installing the latest KDE with Adept mess up my Kubuntu install?07:38
danny500it might07:38
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dinosaur-rushi07:38
v3ctor--download-only with aptitude07:38
_Shade_ok thanks pal07:38
dinosaur-rusI've just fucked up my HDD07:38
danny500dinosaur-rus> LOL LOL LOL07:39
trappistdinosaur-rus: language, please07:39
v3ctordinosaur-rus: they are hard to use in that state07:39
dinosaur-rustrappist: ok sorry07:39
paddy2kdinosarus-rus: hdd fuck up virgin?07:39
danny500lol07:39
trappistpaddy2k: please.07:39
v3ctor!language07:39
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.07:39
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paddy2kI just wanted to know if it was the first time.07:39
trappistpaddy2k: find another way to say it.07:40
danny500yeah, won't want the three year olds to learn bad launguage07:40
v3ctorpaddy2k: as funny as it may be ^^07:40
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danny500every one in this room, how old are you?07:41
danny5001707:41
dinosaur-rusI mean I backed up the most sensitive data in preparation for installing Kubuntu and formatted Linux partition... but I forgot to move backups to another one... so everything is lost07:41
paddy2kdinsaur-rus: so what happened?07:41
v3ctordanny500: it is not just age issue either. we don't want to insult because of cultural/religious backgrounds either07:41
paddy2knasty!07:41
dinosaur-ruspaddy2k: I lost all my data from Linux07:41
danny500well then it's all gone, thers' nothing you can do07:41
paddy2keasy to do07:42
dinosaur-rusdanny500: except killing myself for such stupid mistake07:42
danny500pray to god, maybe he'll fix it for you. lol07:42
danny500well what type of data did you lose?07:43
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danny500LOL07:43
danny500dinosaur porn07:43
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paddy2kI've had hard drives burn out (because it was wrapped in tinfoil), partition tables go south etc. There may be a small chance to recover the formatted data if you can get your hands on forensic tools!07:44
dinosaur-ruslots of sources from different repositories, downloaded files, projects, configuration files07:44
danny500well that's informative07:44
danny500disk warrior might be able to reverse the erase07:44
nukudinosaur-rus: did you actually overwrite it with other data or just formatted it?07:44
dinosaur-rusdanny500: all that data was collected for months and some with difficulties07:45
danny500I know they use it on mac for that reason but I don't know if they have it for linux07:45
danny500look up disk warrior07:45
dinosaur-rusnuku: formatted it07:45
dinosaur-rusdanny500: now I'm without Linux07:45
danny500ou have no os?07:45
paddy2kdanny500: if its for OS X it might be for *nix systems07:46
danny500what are you using for an os right now?07:46
zorglu_.07:46
dinosaur-rusdanny500: only Windows is still working07:46
paddy2kdinosaur-rus:live disk?07:46
nukudinosaur-rus: well normally a format just wipes the inode table/fat/mft or whatever .. so chances are very good to rescue most of your stuff07:46
paddy2kah right07:46
nukudinosaur-rus: efforts depends on the filesystem it was before ;)07:47
danny500well try to use disk warrior. It will bring back the files07:47
dinosaur-ruspaddy2k: uh, Kubuntu 6.10 Live CD loads successfully only on every ~10 attempt, it's kinda buggy for me07:47
danny500thats what it's made for. this prob07:47
danny500well that sucks07:47
zorglu_dinosaur-rus: have you checked the CD ?07:47
danny500yeah, check the cd for errors07:48
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paddy2kdinosaur-rus: if your on windoz try "PC Inspector File Recovery" it's free and worked when I busted my partition table.07:48
danny500yeah, but will it be able to read linux files?07:48
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danny500or does it only look for exe and dll's?07:49
dinosaur-ruszorglu_, danny500: I've checked ISO md5sum after downloading07:49
danny500yeah07:49
danny500and07:49
nukui had very good results with easyrecovery pro some time ago :)07:49
zorglu_dinosaur-rus: when you boot and that it fails, what is the issue07:49
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paddy2kdanny500: I recovered loads of different files.07:49
BlackenIf you can locate partitionmagic, IIRC it can recover smashed tables.07:50
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danny500ok then, guess it works then lol07:50
nukuwell as i said most important is the underlying filesystem to decide what tool to use :)07:50
zorglu_hard to keep a channel on topic :)07:50
dinosaur-ruswell, before downloading that ISO, I've ordered Kubuntu 6.06 by ShipIt :)07:50
dragonkhanyone here?07:51
dragonkhah cool07:51
Blackendinosaur-rus: It'll take quite some time to get to you.07:51
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Blackendinosaur-rus: I wouldn't rely on that.07:51
paddy2kI say just look with a tool, if it doesn't work,, move on to the next one07:51
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dinosaur-rusBlacked: at least it's free, so as reserve it'd be good07:51
nukuor... forget about the data :P07:52
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paddy2kBlacked: I got my package in about 5-6 weeks. better than fed*x07:52
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dinosaur-rusnuku: that was reiserfs, formatting tool I've used supports ext3 only, so... :/07:53
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paddy2kanyone use edubuntu in a class room situation?07:53
Blackenpaddy2k: I installed it last year at my high school. It's still ticking along without complaints.07:53
hyperabattoir: hiya07:53
dinosaur-rusoh "PC Inspector File Recovery" does't support Linux partitions07:54
hypertrappist: hiya07:54
Blackenpaddy2k: And since this presentation (and tech-education conference...thing...hard to describe) is going to have a bunch of education professionals, I felt it best to have some ltsp CDs around.07:54
paddy2kBlacken: cool, does it rely on virtualisation and thin clients? I know the server has to have a certain amount for each client.07:54
nukudinosaur-rus: reiserfsck can do nice work in rebuilding the journal07:54
Blackenpaddy2k: It's LTSP.07:54
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Blackenpaddy2k: No virtualization that I know about, but it's thin-client X-terminal machines.07:55
paddy2kdinosaur-rus: sorry about that then, but if windoz ever goes south  on you (and it will) you could use that!07:55
BlackenThe K12LTSP setup that runs most of the school's linux thinclients has a bunch of standardized clients...I just got the trash machines. As long as boot-over-ethernet worked, I used 'em.07:55
dinosaur-rusnuku: what journal if partition has been formatted to another fs?07:56
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paddy2kBlacken: If you were at aKademy you could have picked up a box of Kubuntu, they had loads there07:56
Blackenpaddy2k: I live in Maine and am a poor college student.07:56
Blackenpaddy2k: End of story. :P07:56
BlackenNo aKademy for me.07:56
nukudinosaur-rus:  something like this may work: reiserfsck scan-whole-partition rebuild-tree /dev/yourdev07:56
nukudinosaur-rus: but you should dd the whole partition first so you can play around07:57
dinosaur-rusdoes anyone here, except me, encounter problems with Kubuntu 6.10 amd64 Live-CD?07:57
paddy2kBlacken: yea, I bumped into the "kicker" team walking the streets of dublin wearing KDE t's on a friday night while out on the beer and found out it was on.07:57
buzzysorry for OT, people i m looking for fortran dedicated channel..is there one?07:58
Blackenpaddy2k: Aha. I need to get me one of those shirts.07:58
nukudinosaur-rus: or an --rebuild-sb to rebuild the superblock07:58
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Blackendinosaur-rus: From what I hear, it's rare not to have a problem with the liveCD. 6.10 64-bit seems to still be a wee bit touchy.07:58
nukudinosaur-rus: ..take a look at the for example: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/repairing-reiserfs-file-system-with-reiserfsck.html07:58
Blackendinosaur-rus: Might want to go download/burn i386-6.06.07:59
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voraistos!voodoo07:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about voodoo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:59
voraistos!tdfx07:59
paddy2kBlacken: http://www.kde.org/stuff/merchandise.php the mug has pride of place in my work cage/cubicle07:59
trappistdinosaur-rus: problems (bugs) are inevitable.  especially in an instable, unreleased OS, but maybe you could be more specific.08:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tdfx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:00
lupine_85!info rutilt edgy08:00
ubotuPackage rutilt does not exist in edgy08:00
lupine_85boooooooooooo hoooooooooooo08:00
Blackenpaddy2k: Ugh, maybe I don't need that shirt. That's ugly.08:00
trappistvoraistos: if you're taking stabs in the dark, try /msg ubotu query08:00
paddy2kgud morning, gud evening and gud nite. I'm off to hide some guinness in my belly.08:01
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dinosaur-rustrappist: it displays KDE splash, loads some components, and then the screens gets screwed up (noise in the upper part, solid pink color in the bottom). number of loaded components differs from time to time08:02
v3ctor!botabuse08:02
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops08:02
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dinosaur-rustrappist: also, it doesn't show any partitions when manual partitioning is chosen during installation (so I didn't go further - don't want to loose absolutely everything)08:04
ka6soxanyone around who has tried to install kubuntu on a PowerMac-G4-AGP> with a nVidia card?08:04
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trappistdinosaur-rus: yeah usplash in general is sucking pretty bad on both my amd64 boxen, livecd or not08:05
TheGateKeeperdinosaur-rus: use the alternative CD, it uses a text installer08:05
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BlackenI almost bought an AMD64 box, but I'm glad I didn't. Still too many issues.08:06
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BluesKajyou can run 32 bit OS on AMD 64 ...I do and it runs very well08:06
jhutchins_wkWhat's the kubuntu equivalent of "chkconfig" to manage services?08:07
dinosaur-rusTheGateKeeper: may be it'd be better to add non-GUI installer (without loading Live-CD) and some recovery features (like restoring rewritten loader)?08:07
BlackenBluesKaj: I know. That'd what I'd probably have done if I'd bought one. But the Inspiron Core Duo laptop was way cheaper than the AMD64 desktop.08:07
Blackendinosaur-rus: lots of people have been asking for that...08:07
Blackendinosaur-rus: No luck so far. :-/08:07
BluesKajshould still run08:07
ka6soxis there a better place to ask kubuntu-ppc questions?08:07
TheGateKeeperdinosaur-rus: and it's called the alternative CD lol08:07
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andywhere can i get libvisual-0.4-plugins08:08
andyfor dapper08:08
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otaku-sanHow does the update releasing normally go?  I mean....it seems that I've been updating everyday for the past 2 weeks....there was a long calm then boom!   Is it about this time when alot of release dates happen?08:11
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bertha!es08:11
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.08:11
otaku-sanandy: look in Adept..at the top in the search box type in the pack and wait....and something might come up.  If that doesn't work...google it...you probably will find a .dep pack of it08:12
tomek__Hi08:12
tomek__I have problem with Amarok08:12
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tomek__I don't play mp3 on this player08:13
otaku-santomek__: That takes a special package08:13
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tomek__I don't listen music08:13
andyotaku-san: tried both and no success08:13
Solveneqhow can i set up my ndiswrapper so i dont haev to modprobe it every boot?08:13
tomek__for example mp308:13
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tomek__what can I do it ??08:14
otaku-santomek__: You mean you can't listen to mp3s.  Thats because Amarok doesn't come with support for mp3's.  You have to install a package.  Wait I'll get it for you.08:14
tomek__ok08:15
joseyI'm converting all my mp3s to ogg right now :P08:15
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otaku-sanandy: libvisuals?  You couldn't find anything....08:15
otaku-sanjosey: using what?08:15
nuku!info libxine-extracodecs08:15
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB08:15
nukutomek__: thats the one you need :)08:15
joseyaudacity08:16
otaku-sannuku: thank you08:16
tomek__libxine -extra .... ??08:16
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otaku-santomek__: a codec is what mp3 is08:16
nukuextracodecs .. like .. mp3 :)08:16
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tomek__ok08:16
tomek__thanks08:16
tomek__very thanks08:17
trappistshort for COmpressor/DECompressor08:17
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otaku-san.....I was almost done with the same thing trappist!  You beat me08:17
trappist:)08:17
[GuS] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codec08:17
nukuyou might even call it COder/DECoder :)08:17
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otaku-sanjosey: ya...Audicity does Mp3 to Ogg...On Amarok I have a script installed that can trancoded a whole bunch of codecs....just can't find it on Amarok08:18
otaku-santranscode*08:18
zorglu_!info soundconverter08:19
ubotusoundconverter: simple sound converter application for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 32 kB, installed size 216 kB08:19
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otaku-sanzorglu_: hmmmm....never heard of it....Do you use it?08:19
zorglu_otaku-san: nope, i dont. but it is the one advised by help.ubuntu.org08:20
zorglu_!codec08:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:20
zorglu_!codecs08:20
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:20
jhutchins_wkI hate to keep asking this, but the ubuntu forums are down.08:20
zorglu_otaku-san: in the first url08:20
jhutchins_wkWhat's the *buntu eqivalent of chkconfig to start/stop/manage services in init?08:20
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trappistjhutchins_wk: update-rc.d08:20
otaku-sanzorglu_: Thanks08:21
zorglu_jhutchins_wk: hmm fdoving told me the other day. something with sysv in the title08:21
zorglu_jhutchins_wk: i think it is sysvconfig08:21
zorglu_!info sysvconfig08:21
trappistI personally think chkconfig is superior08:21
ubotusysvconfig: A text menu based utility for configuring init script links. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 144 kB08:21
zorglu_jhutchins_wk: sysv-rc-conf package may be of interest too08:22
trappistzorglu_: that's one of many interfaces for managing startup services, but chkconfig is a cli for managing one service at a time, so the equivalent here would be more like update-rc.d08:22
andylibvisual-0.4-plugins --> this is not available for dapper08:23
andynot even under backports08:23
jhutchins_wkThanks08:23
jhutchins_wkMost of the init scripts for Mandriva and Fedora these days include a "status" command.08:23
nukuandy: try imbrandon's repository afair he has it in there..08:23
Solveneqhow can i set up my ndiswrapper so i dont have to modprobe it every boot?08:23
zorglu_Solveneq: i think it involve putting a file in /etc/modprobe.d08:24
andyno luck nuku08:24
zorglu_Solveneq: "man modprobe.conf" will explain the format of the file08:24
zorglu_andy: why do you need it08:25
andyfor amarok visualizations08:25
andy1.4.308:25
andyit cannot work with 2.008:25
andyi've got libvisuals-0.4 just not the plugins08:26
zorglu_http://www.kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-142/pool-dapper/ <- you may try those...08:26
otaku-sanDoes anyone else have probs with mplayer in Firefox?08:26
zorglu_otaku-san: i do :)08:26
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zorglu_otaku-san: but i may not be a good example as mplayer fails everywhere on my box08:27
otaku-sanzorglu_: I don't know about you but mine only plays music...and it takes a long time doing it....and vids....well forget that.08:27
andythanks zorglu_08:28
otaku-sanzorglu_: I found this...totem-xine-firefox-plugin....thats what Ubuntu uses for Firefox....maybe it'll work in Kubuntu08:28
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joseyI can't aubibly hear any degradation but does anyone know if you do lose quality with ogg?08:29
Chousukelose quality when you do what? compress CD audio?08:29
Chousukeyes.08:29
Chousukeogg is a lossy codec08:29
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zorglu_otaku-san: ok. likely as firefox is more gnome that kde08:29
jhutchins_wkjosey: Depends on your settings, but it's intended to be lossy.08:29
trappistjosey: you lose quality converting from one lossy format to another, yeah08:30
zorglu_josey: in short, what they wanna know if loosing quality compared to which original quality08:30
ChousukeHowever, it tries to get rid of the data that you would be unable to hear anyway. :)08:30
otaku-sanzorglu_: ya....Firefox is almost a hack for Kubuntu...they want you to use Konq...but Konq doesn't work for me.08:31
otaku-sanFirefox is cool anyways....08:31
joseywell ogg vs mp308:31
zorglu_josey: ogg provides better quality than mp3 for the same file size08:31
joseycool thats what I wanted to hear :)08:32
otaku-sanands it's opensource08:32
otaku-sanand*08:32
joseyyeah thats why I'm converting my mp3's08:32
Chousukemp3 will be free in about two years though08:32
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Chousukebut that's a long time08:32
jhutchins_wkjosey: The problem is if you convert mp3's to ogg, you will loose both what mp3 looses and what ogg looses, which are different.08:32
[GuS] People... there is a problem in Edgy with USB disk? when i put data on it, i unplug and plug again.. and the disk is empty...08:33
otaku-sanChousuke: really....where did you get this info?08:33
[GuS] that happening to me with any USB disk08:33
Chousukeotaku-san: it's what I've heard.08:33
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Chousukeotaku-san: AFAIK the patents expire on 2008 :)08:33
jhutchins_wkjosey: If you have the original lossless format files or CD's or whatever you can convert those, but if you go mp3 => ogg you will have crap.08:33
Chousukejhutchins_wk: not necessarily08:33
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otaku-sanChousuke: well then....opensource Mp3....sounds good08:34
jhutchins_wkChousuke: crap being relative.08:34
Chousukeyeah :P08:34
Chousukeotaku-san: well, not open source as much as "not burdened by patents"08:34
jhutchins_wkotaku-san: ogg is generally considered to be a better algorythm, it's significantly newer.08:34
andyhow to make amarok visualisations fullscreen with a particular resolution?08:34
jhutchins_wkmp3 is OLD.08:34
Chousukethere are numerous open source mp3 encoders and decoders.08:34
otaku-sanwell duh08:34
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jhutchins_wkIt's actually MPEG2 layer 3, and they're on like MPEG5 now.08:35
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ChousukeYou're just not allowed to use it now :/08:35
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jhutchins_wkChousuke: Sure you are, it's just a matter of buying the right license.08:36
shadowravenhow would i g about reinstall me wireless driver? i updated my laptop a few days ago and the wireless broke08:36
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jhutchins_wkHow do you determine what cute version name you have?08:36
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jhutchins_wkAll I know is the number, 6.06.08:36
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trappistjhutchins_wk: lsb_release -a08:37
joseyDoes anyone else prefer konquorer to firefox?08:37
joseykonquorer seems to have potential08:37
otaku-sanzorglu_: do you think I should uninstall the mplayer plugin so the totem one can work?08:37
warpzonejosey: I would if I didn't have to switch back to ff all the time, so I just stick with ff08:37
shadowravenhow would i go about reinstalingl my wireless driver? i updated my laptop a few days ago and the wireless broke. I have the wireless 394508:38
joseyi like the buit in ad filtering08:38
TheGateKeeperhow do you install font?08:38
zorglu_otaku-san: no idea, i know mine deosnt work, but i never investigate further to make it work08:38
otaku-sanjosey: only thing about konq for me....is it just goes way slow on the internet...Firefox goes fast....so I use FF08:38
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jhutchins_wktrappist: Got it, dapper.08:39
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warpzoneotaku-san: tried swiftfox? its noticeably faster08:39
otaku-sanzorglu_: I'll just nuke the mplayer....so I don't have clashing players08:39
zorglu_otaku-san: ok08:39
nukuhttp://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html opera ftw :)08:40
warpzoneAny linux gurus here? I have a maybe tough question08:40
otaku-sanwarpzone: hahaha no not like RAM slow...I mean connection slow...I have a good fast connection...Firefox goes fast...and Konq...for some reason goes at dailup speeds08:40
otaku-sanOpera works too08:40
joseyotaku: yeah i think it's slower becuase it waits for the entire page to be loaded before it displays it... or so it seems08:40
Tm_Twarpzone: dunno about guru but spit it out08:41
otaku-sanhahah I was about to say the same thing08:41
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otaku-sanjosey: hmmm yeah it seems to do that...sometimes...maybe theres an option somewhere.08:41
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warpzoneTm_T: whenever I SSH into my school computer, it has something that colors the text, so its easy to seperate code and whatnot08:42
warpzoneTm_T: it even works in editors like nano and vim08:42
Tm_Tand?08:42
warpzoneTm_T: is that a shell script or something I can switch on08:42
zorglu_warpzone: you have to ask a question to get an answer08:42
otaku-santhat how editors should work with code...Notepad in winbloze distroyed that08:42
warpzoneTm_T: I want to duplicate it on my compy08:42
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warpzonezorglu_: needed bg info :-P08:43
otaku-sanwarpzone: what kind of OS do you have?08:43
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otaku-sancuz you seem not to have Linux08:43
warpzoneno no its linux08:43
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zorglu_ok im lost08:43
warpzonei think fedora core at the school08:43
otaku-san....yeah...I saw...nano..08:43
zorglu_warpzone: wha tis the question ?08:43
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warpzonezorglu_: is there a way to color the text like kate or gedit do, but in the bash prompt?08:44
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otaku-sanwarpzone: ahhhh now we get somewhere08:44
nukuwarpzone: look at $PS1 env var :)08:44
zorglu_warpzone: depends what text you want to colorize ?08:44
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trappistwarpzone: vim does syntax hilighting08:44
warpzonehaha sorry guys didnt mean to be redundant08:45
otaku-sanzorglu_: he wants it to color coding so you can figure it out easier...like in kate08:45
zorglu_otaku-san: in bash ? deosnt make much sence to me :)08:45
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jhutchins_wkwarpzone: Some distros are aliasing the bash commands to <command> -color.  That may be what you're seeng.08:46
jhutchins_wkso ls becomes ls --color08:46
otaku-sanzorglu_: yeah in bash....what coding would you do in bash?  .....Unless he's using it to debug08:46
warpzoneotaku-san: just beginning C stuff08:47
otaku-sanwarpzone: ahhhh...C08:47
jhutchins_wkwarpzone: vim-enhanced 708:47
zorglu_warpzone: you are coding C in bash ?08:47
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Chousukewarpzone: you need a text editor :P08:47
warpzonezorglu_: no no I mean I use vim or nano and complice using gcc08:47
zorglu_warpzone: ok i think you need normal code colorization, kate does it, vim too i think08:47
trappistyeah vim does08:48
Chousukeemacs, jed, vim, just about any decent editor :)08:48
nukuhehe echo "main(int argc, char** argv) {" >> main.c :p08:48
Chousukenuku: hehe08:48
warpzonezorglu_:ooo okie I'll check the aliases too08:48
zorglu_maybe it is to colorize the error output of gcc ?08:48
warpzonezorglu_: no I just thought it was neat, made the prompt pretty :-P08:49
zorglu_warpzone: sorry but what you want is not obvious.08:49
nukuwarpzone: check that you got "vim" installed not just "vim-tiny" as the tiny one does not have syntax highlighting08:49
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warpzonezorglu_: thats cool I have places to check, PSI and default aliases and vim. I've got a direction now08:50
nukuwarpzone: and do something like "echo syntax on >> ~/.vimrc"08:50
zorglu_warpzone: ok :)08:50
warpzonealrighty, thanks a bunch guys, didnt mean to overrun the party08:50
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nukuwarpzone: we just want to bring a little color in your life :)08:51
warpzonenuku: I appreciate it :-P08:51
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Chousukerun vimtutor first though08:52
Chousukeso you learn how to quit the app :P08:52
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zorglu_and never come back :)08:52
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warpzoneChousuke: I used to just mash the keys. iterative process, eventually found out :-P08:52
nukuhaha and feel the power of vim by using :x instead of :wq ;)08:52
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warpzoneyeah its more instructor-forced, so not much of a choice08:53
Chousukejed is nice too08:53
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ChousukeI went through vimtutor today, actually08:54
|lostbyte|hi..08:55
warpzone|lostbyte| howdy08:55
|lostbyte|Whats that kde program that has msn, yahooo etc..08:55
|lostbyte|warpzone, hi.08:55
warpzonekopete08:55
MetaMorfoziSkopete08:55
trappist|lostbyte|: kopete08:55
MetaMorfoziS;)08:55
trappistI think we have a consensus08:55
|lostbyte|argh.. thanks Guys08:55
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MetaMorfoziSlittle cpmcprd08:55
MetaMorfoziSlittle concord08:55
MetaMorfoziS:D08:55
warpzoneif you dont mind the occasionaly crash. there's also Gaim08:55
MetaMorfoziSerhm08:56
MetaMorfoziSfor me it never crashed08:56
warpzonebut my KDE disagreed with GTK based stuff08:56
nukubut first priority was "kde program" :)08:56
MetaMorfoziSbut we hate gtk:)08:56
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zorglu_no we dont hate08:56
ChousukeI wonder if I should remap capslock to esc08:57
MetaMorfoziS;)08:57
MetaMorfoziSzorglu_:  okay, a big half of this room's users hate it.08:57
warpzoneMEtaMorfoziS: yknow, I still can't decide. I love KDE, but I'm back to Gnome temporarily until I find out why firefox was leaking so badly only in KDE08:57
nukuwe sure do hate GObject and like QObject ;P08:57
zorglu_MetaMorfoziS: i hope not08:57
MetaMorfoziSwarpzone: the best thing that annyos me is firefox is gtk:/08:57
Chousukewould be a lot easier if caps lock was esc08:58
nukuwell opera is Qt .. here we go ;)08:58
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MetaMorfoziSyes, i'm familiar with opera08:58
warpzoneMEtaMorfoziS: yeah that and I really wish kTorrent dht protocal was standardized with other clients08:58
MetaMorfoziSbut why that guys can't add extension support erhm?:(((08:59
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nukuwell might come with 10.. but i never needed an extension anyway :) (maybe a very little customized buttons or userjs but not mandatory)09:00
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MetaMorfoziSopera is faster in javascript than any other...:( the javascript debugger is better than any other firefox ext:( but it haven't got exts only malvareous widgets, don't have skins, but have some children-faults and the menu-s are idiot...09:00
subihola09:00
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subinecesito ayuda por favor09:00
subialgien puede exarmen una mano???09:00
zorglu_!es09:00
MetaMorfoziSnuku: for webdeveloping, i need some very important that - i'think - opera don't have09:00
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.09:00
Admiral_Chicago!es > subi09:00
subidime09:01
nukuMetaMorfoziS: what is that? tried the webdeveloper toolbar?09:01
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MetaMorfoziSbut firefox like t eat 150%of my ram:(09:01
MetaMorfoziSnuku fr firefox, yes:)09:01
Admiral_Chicagozorglu_: for future refence if you do a !command > user they get the message without showing the channel09:01
nukuMetaMorfoziS: for opera :)09:01
MetaMorfoziSand colorzilla, and firebug, and others09:01
nukuMetaMorfoziS: operawiki.info09:01
zorglu_Admiral_Chicago: i knew this command09:01
MetaMorfoziSi check09:01
warpzonefirefoxed forced me to restart x a few times a day09:01
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nukui use the kde color picker ;)09:02
MetaMorfoziSdetto...:D but it's a habit...09:03
MetaMorfoziSfrom windows:)09:03
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nuku:)09:03
MetaMorfoziSsometimes i use that if i forget it09:03
nukuhehe well its in the upper right corner of my screen so i get always remembered ;)09:03
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MetaMorfoziSearch results: 0 matches for webdeveloper09:04
MetaMorfoziSi forget it is able in a kicker applet...09:04
nukuhttp://operawiki.info/WebDevToolbar09:04
MetaMorfoziSbut anywhere thecolorpicker forms09:04
MetaMorfoziSyou can grab colors09:04
MotorCityMadMan!flash09:05
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:05
MetaMorfoziSanybody have infos about flash 9 for linux?09:06
MotorCityMadMan!flashplayer09:06
nukuMetaMorfoziS: just some blogging ..09:06
MetaMorfoziSyes.. but other?09:06
Admiral_ChicagoMetaMorfoziS: sec09:06
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nukuhttp://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/09:06
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Admiral_Chicagohttp://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/09:06
nukuhehe :)09:06
MotorCityMadManhttp://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_flash_player909:06
MenZaeenteresting09:07
DaSkreechHello can anyone help with a complaining scsi Kernel module?09:07
nukuyeah you can always use wine.. opera runs very fast in wine btw :)09:07
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Admiral_ChicagoDaSkreech: wow. SCSCI eh?09:07
DaSkreechYeah :-)09:08
Admiral_Chicagoi can't help you but good luck man09:08
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DaSkreechIt's throwing an error I can't figure out if I can fix09:08
cox377___does anyone here use MSI motherboards with kubuntu?09:08
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Lecherosomeone know the day of the official realease of kubuntu edgy?09:10
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Admiral_Chicago!schedule > Lechero09:10
Admiral_Chicagoi think its the 2109:10
Lecherothanks Admiral_Chicago09:11
Lechero26 ;)09:11
Admiral_Chicagonp09:11
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MetaMorfoziScox377___: yes i have09:13
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cox377___MetaMorfoziS: do u know the MSI utilities app that u can get under windows?09:15
cox377___MetaMorfoziS: i was wondering if there was something similar for linux?09:15
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MetaMorfoziSi'm only used that crap for updating drivers09:15
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MetaMorfoziSbut it is worst forit...09:15
MetaMorfoziSwhat other you need?09:15
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cox377___MetaMorfoziS: well that was all, just drivers.. so did u update the drivers for your mobo over and above the standard linux ones?09:16
MetaMorfoziSi dunno what that can, i don't like the integrated internet explorer based high-skinned apps09:16
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MetaMorfoziScox377___: linux have all drivers that you need09:16
MetaMorfoziSi think.09:17
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MetaMorfoziSit supports all standard or welldocumented protocolls, functions, devices...09:17
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muthanass09:17
cox377___MetaMorfoziS: yeh i know.. as good as it is i was just wondering if there was anyway using there own drivers.. found it made a massive difference in performance after doing it 4 windowz09:17
MetaMorfoziSi don't think msi develops drivers for msi09:18
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MetaMorfoziSfor linux, sry09:18
MetaMorfoziSbut, i don't think is there a big difference09:18
MetaMorfoziSbetween a well driver-ed win and linux09:18
cox377___Nah.. it was a shot in the dark.. not too worry09:18
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MetaMorfoziSi'm not sensed any difference, btw.09:19
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MetaMorfoziSi have kt880 neo or what... "kt" and 880 is fix, but i don't know from head it's precise type:)09:20
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DaSkreechIs there a Kubuntu DVD?09:22
oheardYes09:22
terwilligerHi guys. I've yet to be able to set Kubuntu to recognize Thunderbird as default email client, or FF as default browser. Clicking a link in Tbird doesn't launch FF. Clicking a mailto link in FF doesn't launch T'bird. What am I doing wrong?09:22
SurgerDaSkreech: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php09:22
SurgerBottom of the page09:23
MetaMorfoziSterwilliger: forget "system settings"09:23
oheardterwilliger: change it in the control centre.09:23
MetaMorfoziSinstead use the kcontrol09:23
MetaMorfoziSand set the default programs09:23
MetaMorfoziSin kde components09:23
oheardSystem Settings has that...09:23
orkid__is there a way to install kubuntu booting from a 64MB USB (or floppy, or whatever) and doing a net install?09:23
DaSkreechSurger: Damn :(09:23
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terwilliger'K. Thanks09:24
MetaMorfoziSthe problem in thunderbird is easy to solve with one line in pref.js iirc, find about it on ubuntuforums.org09:24
finalbetaAfter I change/start a song in amarok, the player hangs a couple of seconds. Any idea's why?09:24
SurgerDaSkreech: You don't like DVD isos?09:24
oheardterwilliger: in System Settings goto KDE Components. :-)09:24
MetaMorfoziSi said forget it from ratty09:25
MetaMorfoziSthat app is a crap recreation of kcontrol...09:25
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MetaMorfoziSi don't know why it needed09:25
DaSkreechSurger: No I had a Ubuntu DVD and tried to apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and it threw up09:25
SurgerHmmm ... sounds bad. :)09:26
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finalbetaSeriously, is this normal behaviour for amarok? Stalling for seconds after every song change?09:26
oheardfinalbeta: no, it is not.09:26
terwilligerOK...checked Kcontrol, and the KDE components are Tbird and FF. It's set right, it just don't act right ;)09:27
maryenwhoo im registered now09:27
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MetaMorfoziS<3s ?09:27
oheardloves.09:27
oheardIt's a heart see. <309:27
DaSkreechSurger: Yeah Kind of hard to keep EVERYTHING in memory09:27
maryeni like amarok09:27
MetaMorfoziSand how "hates" writed in leet language?09:27
MetaMorfoziS:D09:27
maryen</3 amarok09:28
oheardidd.09:28
MetaMorfoziS:DDD09:28
MetaMorfoziSidd?09:28
oheardAlthough it isn't "leet", it's just an emote... :P09:28
oheardindeed09:28
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MetaMorfoziSsry:)09:28
maryenterwilliger... ive heard that name before09:28
maryensimpsons reference?09:29
terwilligermaryen: Uh...don't think so...09:29
oheardPast life maybe?09:29
oheard;-)09:29
maryengah maybe09:29
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maryeni swear ive heard that name used on the simpsons before09:29
oheardDamn, cheap fast food and chocolate makes me feel funny. :-(09:30
terwilligerGotta be a past life. In a past life, I was a plumber's helper in a bathroom in Blind Staggers Arizona. I don't talk about it much09:30
maryenwhich i will now go watch09:30
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danbuntuterwilliger is side show bobs surname isn't it?09:30
maryenthat was before you went down the pipes and discovered the mushroom kingdom right?09:30
maryenomg yes it is!09:30
oheardRofl.09:30
terwilligerRight! How'd you know?09:30
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danbuntumis spent years at uni09:31
terwilligerHow do you think it makes me feel? Everybody else gets to be Marie Antoinette in a past life, and all I got to talk about is clogged toilets. It's traumatic.09:31
maryenlol im still at uni, and misspending my years09:31
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maryenyou also got to fight koopas and stuff09:32
guptawhich exaclt is the "X11 development package" ?09:32
guptaexactly09:32
danbuntuand drive go-karts09:32
terwilligerNot even that...I wasn't the plumber, I was that plunger thing the plumber uses09:32
maryenah, so you traveled with mario09:32
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maryengupta: xorg-dev09:33
terwilligerWell...I spent my time sitting behind the toilet in a nice little Queen Ann, so I can't even talk about travels.09:33
guptamaryen: ok, thanks09:33
oheardI can see a great novel forming here, "The New Adventures of Plunger and Mario".09:33
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maryenlol09:33
terwilligerBe well. I'm off to see if I can fix this09:34
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maryengo finish kde 409:35
maryeni wants it bad09:35
oheardxD09:35
danbuntuor just some decent screenshots09:36
maryenya that would be nice too09:36
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vonHalenbach-deme 209:37
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DaSkreechlol09:38
DaSkreechdanbuntu: It will09:38
maryenlol it works better than xgl09:38
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nuku:p09:38
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vonHalenbach-de:)09:38
DaSkreechmaryen, vonHalenbach-de: You know that most people are going to skin it to look like windows anyway :)09:38
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maryenor osx09:38
nukuor kde 3 :)09:39
vonHalenbach-deYeah, that may be true, because they feel more familiar with windows look. Feal at home.09:39
vonHalenbach-defeel09:39
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_27147789511060Soir !09:40
maryenbut this isnt linspire, its kubuntu09:40
vonHalenbach-deI certainly don't want the vista look.09:40
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DaSkreechBet no one tries to skin it to look like e ^_^09:40
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DaSkreechLinuxXP :)09:40
vonHalenbach-deI like to try new things, walk new ways.09:40
MetaMorfoziSDaSkreech: kde4 is able to run ?09:40
MetaMorfoziSwhen it comes out?09:41
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maryensomeone needs to skin it to look like fvwm09:41
hacosta_hi, is there a way to remove all panels from kde09:41
apokryphosno release date set for KDE 4 yet09:41
hacosta_including kicker09:41
apokryphosand no, it doesn't really run09:41
apokryphoshacosta_: killall -9 kicker09:41
DaSkreechMetaMorfoziS: Yeah You can apt0-get it in Edgy now if you want09:42
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vonHalenbach-debye09:42
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MetaMorfoziShacosta_: why?:D09:42
hacosta_im going to try it this way09:43
hacosta_thanks apokryphos09:43
hacosta_i use alt+f2 to start all my apps anyway09:43
MetaMorfoziSyou know...09:43
apokryphoshacosta_: yeah, but seeing which apps you have running in some sort of taskbar is useful ;)09:43
DaSkreechhacosta_: Yes alt+Space :)09:43
apokryphosnot that I use alt+f2 anymore :O. Good ol' kickoff09:44
hacosta_apokryphos: middle click ftw09:44
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apokryphoskickoff is rapidly making katapult obsolete09:44
Admiral_Chicagoapokryphos: are you on edgy?09:44
MetaMorfoziSwhy you don't want kicker?09:44
SurgerCan someone tell me why I can't run apps on my external USB disk? I get a "sudo: unable to execute ./build.sh: Permission denied" message.09:44
hacosta_kickoff?09:44
apokryphosthe only thing it can't do now, still, is amarok track-changing09:44
BluesKajwhat does katapult do ?09:45
apokryphoshacosta_: SUSE KDE Menu09:45
apokryphosI heard talk that Kubuntu might use it, but I have no idea09:45
apokryphos!katapult09:45
ubotukatapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.09:45
MetaMorfoziSSurger: i think its aproblem about the permission system09:45
maryenkatapult rocks09:45
hacosta_katapult is going to be the default some day?09:45
MetaMorfoziSi think your storage is vfat09:45
DaSkreechapokryphos: kickoff?09:45
maryeni <3 it09:45
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Admiral_Chicago  katapult does not work for me at all09:45
apokryphosAdmiral_Chicago: haven't used kubuntu in a couple of months, but I was then09:45
BluesKajthx apokryphos09:45
hacosta_i really like the stanfard alt+fs09:45
SurgerMetaMorfoziS: It's ext309:45
hacosta_f2.09:45
MetaMorfoziSthat isn't handles all perms that ext309:46
MetaMorfoziSeh09:46
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MetaMorfoziSokay, i don't know then09:46
SurgerMetaMorfoziS: I see the problem - it's mounted with noexec :(09:46
apokryphosDaSkreech: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/233109:46
MetaMorfoziSeheheh09:46
apokryphoshacosta_: it's good, but limited09:47
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Admiral_Chicagoi think i'm going to purge katapult and reinstall it09:47
apokryphoswhy?09:47
DaSkreechapokryphos: Nice. Why would that make katapult obsolete?09:47
SurgerMetaMorfoziS: What app does the auto mounting?09:47
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MetaMorfoziSmount09:47
MetaMorfoziSyour mount list is09:47
hacosta_katapult doesnt understand for example gg:foo09:47
MetaMorfoziS/etc/fstab09:47
MetaMorfoziSif you boot it moutns all thing in fstab09:48
MetaMorfoziSbut you can do it manually: mount -a or umount -a09:48
MetaMorfoziS(with sudo)09:48
apokryphoshacosta_: kickoff does :D09:48
SurgerNo this is automounted when plugged in - no entry in fstab09:48
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nukukickoff reads your mind? :)09:49
MetaMorfoziSoh, that is a kde magic, i dunno that, butif you put a line in fstab, and mount -a it works, imho09:49
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MetaMorfoziSor mount manually09:49
apokryphosnuku: yup ;-)09:49
DaSkreechapokryphos, hacosta_: It can :)09:49
Admiral_Chicagoit says it has started but doen't do aynthing after that09:49
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apokryphoskickoff has beagle incorporated into it09:50
nukuapokryphos: is thre something more than the flash? like actual sourcecode? ;)09:50
apokryphoswhich actually works so well now; no complaints with it09:50
DaSkreechapokryphos, hacosta_: It's plugin based so it can do most anything that you can type and search for :)09:50
nukukickoff is not a nice word to google for :P09:50
apokryphosnuku: it's been on SUSE 10.2 for some time now09:50
apokryphosDaSkreech: talking about katapult? Bah.09:50
nukuapokryphos: any site? before i start messing with keywords?09:50
Admiral_Chicagoapokryphos: sound like a hater to me09:50
wildchildhow do I set up my mic09:51
apokryphosnuku: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/239309:51
wildchildIt's logitech's09:51
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apokryphosAdmiral_Chicago: I like katapult very much, I just think that it's more-or-less obsolete now that kickoff's around09:51
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apokryphosI don't have it auto-starting anymore, since I haven't found myself needing to use it09:52
nukuapokryphos: thanks i'll give it a try :)09:52
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Admiral_Chicagoapokryphos: ah yes i agree about kickoff09:52
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linuxkid2Does anyone know of a Kicker applet that does Beagle and Google search?09:53
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DaSkreechapokryphos: Can You turn off stuff in kickoff?09:53
apokryphoslinuxkid2: kickoff ;-)09:53
apokryphosDaSkreech: like disable one of the tabs? Not that I know of yet09:54
DaSkreechOr limit it's search range09:54
apokryphosDaSkreech: you can, yes09:54
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apokryphosthe beagle part to kickoff is essentially kerry-beagle09:55
linuxkid2I already have Kerry09:55
linuxkid2Does it integrate?09:55
nukuapokryphos: are you taking part in development of it?09:55
apokryphosyes09:55
apokryphosnope09:55
linuxkid2??09:55
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nukutwo binary answers in a row confuse people ;)09:56
apokryphoslinuxkid2: as in it does integrate in some ways. It displays search results inline, but for expansion of results etc full kerry window is launched09:56
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Admiral_Chicagolinuxkid2: yes it integrates but09:56
apokryphosit also inherits kerry settings for indexing etc09:56
linuxkid2sounds ok09:56
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Admiral_Chicagoapokryphos: much better than i was going to explain09:57
linuxkid2I tought that the kerry indexing was Beagle. I once installed XFCE and the Kerry settings imported into Beagle09:57
nukuquite huge sourcetree ......09:57
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apokryphoslinuxkid2: kerry is a kde front-end to beagle, so yes -- you change beagle settings from kerry09:57
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linuxkid2I know. Thanks.09:57
j2daoshwho usesd k3b?09:58
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Admiral_Chicagoj2daosh: i do09:58
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apokryphosj2daosh: the majority of people here09:58
j2daoshhave you ever tried to back up more then 4 gigs on a dvd?09:58
j2daoshi have 21 gigs of files i need to backup09:58
Admiral_Chicagoapparent it is popular with GNOME people09:58
nukuapokryphos: do you know if it has already been "debianized"?09:58
j2daoshcan i just add them all to the project now and when a disc gets full it will ask for another one and continue?09:59
Admiral_Chicagoj2daosh: i don't think so09:59
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Phlogistiquej2daosh: tar+bz2 or tar.7z maybe ?09:59
apokryphosnuku: if there's a debian package? I wouldn't know. Quick search on Google suggests there's instructions apparently for installing it on Ubuntu09:59
j2daoshdang09:59
j2daoshok09:59
j2daoshthanks09:59
nukuapokryphos: well still checking out the svn ;)09:59
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Admiral_Chicagoj2daosh: i think you may want to check this out http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page10:00
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nukuapokryphos: well more like the debian/* structure to easily backport it :)10:00
Lecherois hope xgl on kubuntu edgy?10:00
apokryphosnot yet, I'd guess10:00
DaSkreechNo but faith XGL is10:00
Admiral_ChicagoLechero: i'm running it...10:00
maryenwth is hope and fate xgl?10:00
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Admiral_Chicagokubuntu edgy beta 1 with XGL/compiz10:01
LecheroAdmiral_Chicago: work fine xgl on kde?10:01
linuxkid2What package is it in? I searched for Kickoff with Adept but found nothing. I do have Universe enabled.10:01
nukulinuxkid2:  there is no package for it in the repositories10:01
linuxkid2:-(10:01
linuxkid2Compile?10:01
SurgerDoes anyone know how the automount thing in KDE works?10:02
Admiral_ChicagoLechero: compiz has a memory leak but yes10:02
linuxkid2Not to well.10:02
Admiral_Chicagoit took a whilu to install10:02
maryenwhich do you like better admiral, xgl or beryl?10:02
Admiral_Chicagoi kill compiz, get my memory back and restart compiz10:02
maryener compiz, or beryl10:02
Admiral_Chicagonever seen beryl or used it10:02
BluesKaj!gnormalize10:03
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gnormalize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:03
nukucompiz is deprecated beryl is the way to go10:03
linuxkid2Just curiose, what's E17 like?10:03
maryenas far as i know, beryl works better with kde than compiz does10:03
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Lecheroof course, really i am waiting edgy for the new init :) the xgl is not more important10:03
scionello10:03
nukuand i think xgl will also be replaces by aiglx everywhere..10:04
nukureplaced10:04
soulriderdoes anyone know hwo i can mount an ISO image of linux and make it bootable to be used on vmware ?10:04
maryenyeah im thinking so too10:04
Lecheronuku i agree with you10:04
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BluesKajwhynot just dualboot ?10:05
Lecherosoulrider: mount -o loop file.iso /mount/point10:05
maryen beryl and aiglx was the first i got running on my own10:05
maryenthough ive seen kororaa with xgl10:05
oheardsoulrider: in the config for the virtual machine change the CD-ROM to an ISO image, you can do that there. :D(-<10:05
soulrideri tried that i think, but vmware wouldnt boot10:05
soulriderahh thanks10:05
linuxkid2Is there a Kickoff debian package available somewhere?10:05
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oheardlinuxkid2: www.apt-get.org should help you with that! :-D10:06
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linuxkid2Might it be in the Seveas repo?10:07
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oheardmeh..10:07
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oheard!info kickoff10:07
ubotuPackage kickoff does not exist in any distro I know10:07
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brainiacTLBhooray, linux saved the day10:10
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linuxkid2Um, I don't think I want Kickoff. It's a replacement for KMenu. I want just a little search box for the panel to search either Google or Beagle, like Firefox sorta.10:10
oheard!info kbfx10:11
brainiacTLBlaptop died, booted off pclinuxOS, copying files to main rig, then installing kubuntu10:11
ubotukbfx: a new K-Menu for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.8+cvs20060413-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 193 kB, installed size 804 kB10:11
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linuxkid2thanks, but still, not sure...10:11
oheardLook at some screenshots on the website. :-)10:11
srednalinuxkid2: Fir KDE, press ALT + F2 and type "gg: SEARCHPHRASE" to search with google10:11
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Lecheroone of the next steps of kubuntu may to have a best solutions for palms devices, now the pda work but when kpilot want and not when you want10:12
nukulinuxkid2: why not just use the "run command" kicker applet?10:12
srednalinuxkid2: I do not know if there is a protocol for beagle that works in KDE, but it would probably be quite easy to produce one10:12
nukulinuxkid2: you could install kio-beagle so you just type beagle://whatever10:12
linuxkid2Oh, well,, the idea was to have something similar to the Firefox search bar for Kicker.10:13
zorglu_!strigi10:13
Lecheroi read about one k proyect for create a beagle for kde10:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about strigi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:13
zorglu_kde has a desktop search tool called strigi10:13
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Lecherobut i am waiting for the google desktop for kde :)10:14
Karol84PLHello, is anyone who used Democracy TV Platform application? What speed of Internet connection is need to watch Tv like that? (sorry for my english ...)10:14
linuxkid2oh, well, maybe I just have to write it if I want t. (dunno how tho)10:14
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zorglu_Karol84PL: it uses bittorrent so the speed at which you download the data depends on the speed of your link but there are no minimal10:16
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Karol84PLzorglu: thanks, i thought it is via live streaming10:17
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sorush20what is an easy imaging program out there that help backup the root partiton as an image. ?10:17
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linuxkid2dd ?10:18
LecheroDemocracy TV Plataform is like Live Tv ?10:18
Lecherotv p2p10:18
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sorush20Lechero: no you can get bbc on there10:18
zorglu_Lechero: do you have a url for 'live tv' ?10:19
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jtholmeshow do i read   something pasted at paste.ubuntu-nl.org10:20
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Lecheroyes zorglu_ but Live Tv is only for windows :( http://live-tv-player.en.softonic.com/ie/4749910:20
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zorglu_thanks10:20
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Lecherojtholmes: you must have the url of the page where are been pasted the text10:20
max1hi10:20
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jtholmesLechero: ok thanks i figured that  such as  paste.../2560010:21
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Lecherojtholmes: something like that10:21
jtholmesLechero: ok10:21
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wildchilddoes messenger in kopete support audio conversation10:22
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linuxkid2wildchild: if it doesn't aMSN does.10:22
wildchildso I have to apt-get install msn ?10:23
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linuxkid2aptitude search msn10:23
kubuntuhola10:24
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lupoi can't mount DVD10:26
lupoonly cd works on it10:26
kubuntualguien que hable espaol10:27
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helenawhere can I set edgy to suspend when on battery power and idle for 10 minutes?10:27
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zorglu_!es10:27
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.10:27
zorglu_helena: 'kmenu -> system setting -> laptop & power "10:29
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helenano such thing there10:30
helenashould I install something and how will it work together with guidance-power-manager?10:30
zorglu_well i have it there :) i dunno why you dont10:31
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mabreauxDoes kubuntu get the same attention as ubuntu or is it a step-child?10:46
Admiral_Chicagomabreaux: yes it does10:47
mabreauxthen why is ubuntu so much cleaner and well polished?10:47
Surgermabreaux: kubuntu is ubuntu with KDE instead of Gnome. All the base packages are common.10:47
Surgermabreaux: You mean gnome it polished? The underlying system is identical.10:48
mabreauxWill kubuntu support kde 4.0 when it is released?10:48
Admiral_Chicagomabreaux: i think GNOME has a minimalist style10:48
Kubuyes10:48
Admiral_Chicagomabreaux: yes10:48
Homerlol10:48
Homernope it won't :)10:48
Admiral_Chicagobut KDE has menus and things like that10:48
Kubuit will10:48
Admiral_Chicagoi can't find anything in gnome10:48
Homeryeah I'm commenting on the absurdity of the question10:49
mabreauxgnome drive me crazy10:49
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Kubui prefer kde as well10:49
Admiral_Chicagomabreaux: me too. kde is easier to navigate imo10:49
Homerwell you are in the right channel10:49
mabreauxgnome has a very nice wirenetwork manager and kde does not why?10:49
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Surgermabreaux: I dunno - go and ask the KDE guys. :)10:50
Admiral_Chicagomabreaux: the one KDE introduced is knetworkmanager and it isn't developed10:50
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Admiral_Chicagothey just released it a few months ago10:50
SurgerBut you can run most gnome apps in KDE10:50
SurgerJust launch them from console10:50
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Homeryou can put them into a menu10:51
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wildchildwhere do I get plugins for my mic and web cam10:52
wildchildso aMSN will recognize them10:52
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jhutchins_wkWhy is kdeprint unable to add a printer?10:57
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mario_ola10:59
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nukuhmm this kickoff code is really messy :p11:05
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AWOSDevWhen I go to open a file in any application, namely KolourPaint but happens in OpenOffice too, some files are missing.11:07
AWOSDevBut they show up when I do an ls in the directory.11:08
AWOSDevIt affects all directories on the computer, including on NTFS and ext3 partitions.11:08
AWOSDevIf I type the name of the file in, they do open.  So the files are there but they are not listed.11:09
AWOSDevWhat could be the problem?11:09
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wildchildwhy fon't install easycam or easycam2 despite I added deb file into my /etc/apt/source.list and update it :S11:09
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AWOSDevWhen I go to open a file in any application, namely KolourPaint but happens in OpenOffice too, some files are missing.11:10
AWOSDevIt affects all directories on the computer, including on NTFS and ext3 partitions.  If I do an ls -al on the console however they are there.  I am the owner.  The permissions are 766.11:11
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llukahey can someone help me with my fstab, im trying to make it read write for user 100011:12
nukubut kickoff is not that bad usability wise :)11:12
AWOSDevnuku, huh?  Were you talking to me, lluka or wildchild?11:13
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llukaanyone hehhe11:13
nukuno just continue the topic an hour ago :)11:13
AWOSDevnuku hehe11:14
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bertha!es11:14
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.11:14
llukau woudlnt happen to know how to make a partition read write for user would u? :S11:14
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AWOSDevlluka, I mount my partitions with 'mount', I don't use fstab.  So no, sorry...11:14
nukuAWOSDev: you may have this annoying /.hidden file? ;)11:15
AWOSDevlluka, maybe type "man fstab" on the Konsole...11:15
llukahmm11:15
AWOSDevnuku, I turned on "Show Hidden Files" already, and when I did even more disappeared.  Every time the file picker refreshes more disappear.11:15
llukai did this years ago but i cant remember how11:15
lluka:/11:15
AWOSDevlluka, like I said try "man fstab", it gives helpful info.11:16
nukuAWOSDev: mh..11:16
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nukuAWOSDev: but ls -al show the files?!11:16
AWOSDevnuku, what does mh mean?11:16
AWOSDevnuku, yep.11:16
nukuAWOSDev: just wondering what that might be :)11:17
AWOSDevnuku, they are all PNG files and they all have the same basic file name.11:17
AWOSDevnuku, to be honest, they are pictures of road signs.11:17
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AWOSDevso it's like I-95 N Exit20.png11:18
nukuAWOSDev: :) maybe you missed a turn right sign where all the file are now :p *scnr*11:18
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AWOSDevnuku LOL11:18
AWOSDevnuku Exits 20-32 are missing.11:19
AWOSDevbut I'm looking at 21 right now, just opened it.11:19
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tmdx120identify 5percent11:19
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AWOSDevtmdx120, bad idea giving out your password :P11:19
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tmdx120AWOSDev: It has been doing that ever since I upgraded. I have no idea why. Can you help me with that?11:20
wildchildhello has anyone here try to install web cam?11:20
AWOSDevtmdx120, what did you upgrade?  to Edgy?11:20
tmdx120AWOSDev: dapper11:21
AWOSDevtmdx120, then what did you upgrade?11:21
AWOSDevnuku, any idea why the KDE File Picker doesn't like I-95 northbound?11:21
tmdx120AWOSDev: about 3 mos ago. its taken me this long to get to the last few issues!  LOL!11:21
Homerhow do I close an ethernet device11:21
AWOSDevtmdx120, not *when* but *what*, was it Konversation, GAIM, Kopete?11:22
nukuAWOSDev: no idea... can you open the file by typing in its full name?11:22
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AWOSDevHomer, sudo ifconfig eth0 down11:22
AWOSDevnuku yep11:22
Janitux!11:22
tmdx120AWOSDev:  it was a system upgrade from breezy11:22
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nukuAWOSDev: so it is just missing in the file list?!11:22
AWOSDevtmdx120, ahhhhhhh okay I get it now11:22
AWOSDevnuku, yep11:22
nukustrange ..11:22
mabreauxI was at Borders books and music last night and saw a book called "Beginning Ubuntu Linux From Novice to Professional" by Keir Thomas published by apress.11:23
AWOSDevtmdx120, which client are you using?  irssi, GAIM, Konversation, Kopete, ...11:23
AWOSDevmabreaux, yep seen it at Barnes & Noble.11:23
mabreauxany have any coments on it11:23
tmdx120AWOSDev: konversation, can you help?11:23
mabreauxany one read it.11:23
AWOSDevmabreaux, uh it's a little newb for me, I have 5 years of *nix administration under my belt11:24
AWOSDevtmdx120, Yep that's what I would use if I could open it11:24
AWOSDevtmdx120, I personally IDENTIFY in the Freenode window, not the channel window11:24
tmdx120AWOSDev: how do I do that?11:24
mabreauxI have 15 of at&t and bsd under mine and just starting in linux....   I like what ubuntu and kubuntu have done so far.11:25
AWOSDevtmdx120, see the tabs?  At the bottom?11:25
tmdx120AWOSDev: <-----newbie. Yes I see the tabs..11:25
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Homerhow you put a computer on standby mode11:25
AWOSDevtmdx120, you calling me a newbie or you a newbie? :P11:25
AWOSDevHomer, ACPI or APM?11:25
Homeracpi11:25
AWOSDevmabreaux, yeah compared to FreeBSD, Linux is fairly easy11:25
AWOSDevHomer, hold on a sec11:26
tmdx120AWOSDev: ME  LOL!11:26
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mabreauxTrying to find out how much unix command are used in linux and if they work the same.11:26
tmdx120AWOSDev: when I get to the tab that says freenode what do I do?11:26
Homeralot11:26
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Homerlinux iss more of a superset of unix11:26
mabreauxon freebsd, you are complete correct on that....11:26
AWOSDevtmdx120, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY whatever-your-password-is11:26
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linuxkid2mabreaux: that is GNU, and BASH. Most are the same, cat, cd, less, grep, awk.11:27
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TailsfanHello11:27
mabreauxsorry I do not wish to work that hard for my free time...  so I tried red hat, suse and ended up staying with kubuntu11:27
mabreauxsorry I do not like gnume11:28
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mabreauxgnome11:28
AWOSDevmabreaux, I hate GNOME personally.11:28
AWOSDev:)11:28
Tailsfan1. How much does a server install use? and 2. How much does kubuntu-desktop take up after installing the server editon11:28
tmdx120AWOSDev: now what?11:28
AWOSDevtmdx120, now your password doesn't come up anymore11:28
linuxkid2If I had the system power I'd try E17 or Compiz, but KDE is as good as I can do.11:28
AWOSDevtmdx120, that's where you need to Identify, not in the Channel tab but the Freenode tab.11:28
tmdx120AWOSDev:  that is all I have to do?11:29
AWOSDevtmdx120, yep :)11:29
tmdx120AWOSDev: do I do that every time?11:29
AWOSDevman stabndy11:29
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AWOSDevoops sorry wrong shell11:29
narasim_7Tailsfan: 2 gb minimum..for the entire install..11:29
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bertha!es11:29
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.11:29
TailsfanThe server11:29
drehee kubuntuers...11:30
tmdx120AWOSDev: can I change my password?11:30
narasim_7Tailsfan: within 1GB but confirm with someone else11:30
TailsfanI gues 500 Mb for the server11:30
TailsfanOh :(11:30
TailsfanSo much for installing Kubuntu for me then11:31
linuxkid2how is hibernae accomplished? My computer is older so no ACPI.11:31
narasim_7Tailsfan: why?11:31
mabreauxwhat ever happen to "mh" and "k shell" ?11:31
AWOSDevtmdx120, yeah but I don't remember how.11:31
tmdx120AWOSDev: ThANKS!!!!11:32
linuxkid2mabreaux: they're available, but Linux uses bash, and cshell is there for scripts.11:32
AWOSDevtmdx120, np :)11:32
TailsfanBecause I was going to install the server with it's GUI but I have limited disk space to do it11:32
tmdx120Im trying to get my palm to sync to kpilot, can anyone help?11:32
AWOSDevmabreaux, sudo apt-get install ksh11:32
narasim_7Tailsfan: when u do a server install ...theres no X11:32
AWOSDevmabreaux, that's the Real Genuine AT&T Korn Shell11:33
mabreauxI notice that bash has a lot of the features of both c and k.  or am I just mistaken?11:33
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narasim_7Tailsfan: so possibly when u do install X ..u will atmost need a Window manager11:33
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narasim_7max within 1 GB ..11:33
linuxkid2I've never used anything but bash and busybox (DSL).11:33
wildchildhow can I communicate through aMSN if it can't recognize mic ?11:34
linuxkid2Tailsfan: XFCE or Fluxbox might suit you better.11:34
mabreauxcan anyone recommend a good book on python?  I know c, c++ and c++ dcom, but not python.11:34
TailsfanBut the Kubuntu Disk does not contain those11:34
narasim_7Tailsfan: yeah..11:34
TailsfanI was going to install from the disk11:34
linuxkid2Ah11:35
narasim_7Tailsfan: u can do a server install and then do a "sudo apt-get install fluxbox" in the login shell11:35
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GNUroin edgy my flash player don't work.. it play the audio, but don't show any in video O_o... why?11:35
narasim_7Tailsfan: but you will have to install xorg..so make sure you install xorg11:35
narasim_7Tailsfan: what about RAM and swap11:36
TailsfanSwap?11:36
nukuGNUro: change your display depth to 2411:36
narasim_7Tailsfan: if u have less disk space for kubuntu..then how are u going to allocate swap space?11:36
GNUronuku: ok11:37
TailsfanHmm, Good Point, Hold on, let me get you my disk size currently11:37
Tailsfan3.99 GB, but i can clear some11:38
linuxkid2Tailsfan: fluxbox is in Universe, so you'll have to manually edit your sources.list before you can install it.11:38
narasim_7Tailsfan: can u get 3.99 gb for kubuntu or less than that11:38
narasim_7Tailsfan: oh..total is 3.99 han?11:39
Tailsfantotal is 5.99 Gigs, But I have Windows 2000 in here as well11:39
narasim_7Tailsfan: oh..k11:40
mabreauxI tried to "sudo apt-get install gnome" for testing on my kubuntu system, and the would not boot after that.  why?11:40
narasim_7Tailsfan: the point is that u shld have twice the size of ram as swap..but atleast as big as ram..shld do..otherwise..the performance will be very poor..11:41
TailsfanYeah I only have 128 MB RAM11:41
evol_mabreaux: what's the error message after booting?11:41
AWOSDevHomer, you still there?11:42
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narasim_7Will kubuntu take some portion of / as swap space when no swap partition is present?11:42
AWOSDevnarasim_7, no you will have no swap space.11:42
narasim_7AWOSDev: ah! ok thanks11:42
AWOSDevnarasim_7, np11:42
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linuxkid2You can set any disk image or rw device as swap, usually partitions, but you CAN format a disk image as swap and use that.11:43
_Simemabreaux: You could try the book "Dive into Python".11:43
mabreauxno error, goes for grub to a black screen and locks up11:43
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mabreauxthanks I check out the book11:43
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narasim_7linuxkid2: have u tried edgy ?11:44
TFroganyone here running the edgy native broadcom drivers?11:44
linuxkid2no, I never was really happy with alpha aoftware. beta's ok thouhg :)11:45
narasim_7linuxkid2: :)11:45
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mabreauxI tried drapper native broadcom drivers and does not support above 10 mps on a b/g card11:45
linuxkid2Sysinfo for 'josh-desktop': Linux 2.6.15-27-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: PentiumIII(Katmai) at 449 MHz (899 bogomips), , RAM: 310/313MB, 97 proc's, 5.12h up11:45
bertha!es11:46
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.11:46
linuxkid2that's why not using elnightenment or XGL11:46
AWOSDevlinuxkid2, how'd you do that?11:46
mabreauxwill xgl run on drappr?11:46
AWOSDevmabreaux, no :(11:46
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linuxkid2the command is /SYSINFO11:46
TFrogty mabreaux.  i've been in communications via email with the ubuntu staff.  they are telling me the edgy kernel supports the WPA with the fwcutter.  not sure on speed though11:46
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AWOSDevlinuxkid2:    bash: /SYSINFO: No such file or directory11:47
linuxkid2no, in Konverstaion11:47
benjaminAnyone knows how i change name on the NFS-icon on the desktop?11:47
narasim_7Sysinfo for 'ubuntu': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU2.40GHz at 2400 MHz (4803 bogomips), , RAM: 246/248MB, 88 proc's, 30.5min up11:47
AWOSDevlinuxkid2: LOL I'm kinda dumb :P11:47
mabreauxthat will be go to switch to wpa for web11:47
mabreauxwep11:47
narasim_7linuxkid2: ;)11:47
narasim_7AWOSDev: i too tried with bash11:48
TFrogi'm not thrilled about WEP from my days doing telephone tech support for a major ISP here in the states11:48
AWOSDevSysinfo for 'lappy': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPI: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPI1.60GHz at 1600 MHz (unknown bogomips), , RAM: 494/494MB, unknown proc's, 2days 2:20 up11:49
AWOSDev^ typed manually :)11:49
mabreauxneither am I, too easy to crack11:49
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narasim_7AWOSDev: 2 days :O11:49
AWOSDevnarasim_7 that's a big deal?11:49
AWOSDevnarasim_7 I've gotten 12 days out of this laptop11:50
TFrogmabreaux, the only good secure network is wired.  i know a kid who has been able to hack into WPA netorks in a half hour with the right tools via linux11:50
narasim_7AWOSDev: because i am staying in chennai india and its summer all throughout the year..11:50
mabreauxI can do that too , but ask him how long it take him to get into a wep system11:50
AWOSDevnarasim_7, what does that have to do with uptime?11:51
linuxkid2I've got old hardware on my Wireless network, so I'm stuck with WEP 12811:51
TFrogprobably less than 5 minutes.  lol11:51
narasim_7AWOSDev: the system has to be on right?11:51
AWOSDevnarasim_7 yeah :)11:51
narasim_7AWOSDev: here due to overheating the system may reboot..and sometimes fail..and we dont have enough support down here11:52
dretruste11:52
AWOSDevnarasim_7 Ahhhhhhhh okay11:52
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mabreauxin linux how does NFS support laptops which leave the system occasionally?  I know *nix does not like it much>11:52
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narasim_7*narasim_7 doesnt have such an airconditioed room :(11:53
AWOSDevnarasim_7, oh I'm sorry, really truly sorry11:53
narasim_7AWOSDev: thats ok..i am blessed enough to get a computer..11:53
AWOSDevnarasim_7 I went without A/C down here in sunny Florida, USA once earlier this year in July.  Got up to 88 degrees *inside* the house11:53
TFrogouch AWOSDev.  i know that feeling here in SC.  wouldn't be nice without AC11:54
narasim_7AWOSDev: oh..thats  worse..11:54
narasim_7TFrog: SC?11:54
AWOSDevI had three computers on :)11:54
AWOSDevnarasim_7, South Carolina11:54
TFrogSouth Carolina, US11:54
narasim_7AWOSDev: ah..!11:54
narasim_7TFrog: ok..11:54
cpk2AWOSDev: psh this last summer was way hot in san diego, I dont have a/c =)11:54
mabreauxPine Valley, Ca (near San Diego, ca)11:55
cpk2the heat wave was not very fun though11:55
TFrogmabreaux, thanks for the bit of info about fwcutter.11:55
AWOSDevYeah my Linux-based server hit an all time high, 50 degrees celsius :O11:55
narasim_7mabreaux: yeah11:55
TFrogmabreaux, you make me jealous.  i did 12 years in San Diego as a squid.  lol11:55
mabreauxnot a porblem,  I am trying to resolve but no luck so far.11:55
mabreauxsan diego has nice weather...11:56
AWOSDevWell I have guests coming over, so I best be off11:56
AWOSDevBye all!11:56
TFrogi know.  i'm ex navy and as i said, i spent 12 years there11:56
narasim_7AWOSDev: bye11:56
TFroglater AWOSDev11:56
mabreauxbye11:56
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AWOSDevIt's nice to be said bye to by so many eople :)11:56
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mabreauxbye for now11:57
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narasim_7bye all..gonna get some sleep..its 3 already..11:57
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linuxkid2I'm still here.11:57
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bertha!es11:58
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.11:58
linuxkid2What would one call Ubuntu + Fluxbox? Fubuntu?11:59
mabreauxI have to go and get some stuff done....  be back on later.  bye for now11:59
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josh_!mp311:59
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:59
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linuxkid2What would one call Ubuntu + Fluxbox? Fubuntu? Ubuntubox?12:00
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Tm_Tubuntu12:00
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linuxkid2Tm_T: that's not so creative.12:01
Tm_Tthat's exactly what it is12:01
Tm_Tit's ubuntu12:01
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draikHow do you ghost a HDD?12:01
draikcan it be done with Kubuntu?12:02
josh_norton ghost12:02
linuxkid2Ubuntu is Gnome, Kubunut is KDE, Xubuntu is XFCE.12:02
Tm_Tno separate repositories, no separate artwork, nothing that divide it from ubuntu12:02
draikjosh_ no windows here, just kubuntu12:02
Tm_TI use WindowMaker and it's still Ubuntu12:02
Tm_Tdraik: hmm, maybe dd helps12:02
draikdd?12:02
linuxkid2I just want to be creative with my Fluxbox installation. Not technical.12:02
Tm_Tdraik: no idea, just guessing12:03
ka6soxTm_T if I use windowmaker and like KDE apps I should install kubuntu?12:03
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cpk2ka6sox: you dont need to, apt-get will install everything the apps need anyways12:03
Tm_Tyes12:03
Tm_Tall one big family of community12:03
Tm_Tlinuxkid2: well, then name it as "foobar"12:04
Tm_Tthat's creative and non-technical ;)12:04
linuxkid2Yeah yeah ok.12:05
ka6soxits okay...so far I"ve tried 3 different ubuntu install discs and NONE of them completely install the OS.12:06
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ka6sox3 different versions even12:06
Tm_Tgood night kids, have fun ->12:06
ka6soxeven *Debian* can do that.12:06
ka6soxwhere is the best place to ask PPC questions?12:07
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soulrideroh NO! i need URGENT HELP!12:09
soulriderinstead of hitting safely remov eon my pen drive12:09
soulrideri hit move to waste bin12:09
soulriderand my files got deleted!12:09
soulriderhow an i recover them?!12:09
josh_u can't12:09
josh_sry12:10
Chousukemove back from waste bin?12:10
soulrideri opened my trash can and theyr enot there12:10
josh_maybe there is some sort of tool12:10
Chousukehmm12:10
soulriderthere MUST be a way12:10
josh_go into adept and type recovery12:10
Chousukehm12:10
soulrideradept manager ?12:10
Chousukeis the USB drive unmounted now?12:10
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soulriderno12:11
thygrrrheyas! I'm trying to get LWJGL to work... I have an ATI Radeon X1600 ... the apps work, but terribly screw up the x server once they quit. in fact things are so screwed up that I need to reboot.12:11
soulriderits mounted12:11
Chousukethey might be on the USB drive, in a .Trash-Something folder12:11
Chousukeit's hidden.12:11
soulrideri managed to hit cancel while it was deleting though12:11
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thygrrrany clues on this one? first thing I need to know anyway is how to kill the x server in a proper way... I can switch to a tty once, but i can never switch back once things go bad.12:11
soulrideroh yes12:11

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