[12:14] <nethen> another thing, the power manager, detects the lid as closed when I start my session. Is this a known bug?
[12:14] <menace> !adept crash fix
[12:14] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[12:16] <sybux> any1 know to run WoW with wine in a perfect way ? actually I've wow runing but the graphics perf are very bad
[12:18] <menace> when i try to run adept or frostwire, they as for the password, but then they never run. how can i fix this? its happened before on my other computer running linux
[12:19] <rahmetli> i have kubuntu on my laptop(A6Vc),without pressing any keys it sometimes displays "LCD ON".why?and how can i preveny this?
[12:19] <pielgrzym> anyone knows a bit of apache?
[12:19] <pielgrzym> I got a little problem
[12:20] <nethen> pielgrzym: ask, maybe someone knows...
[12:20] <sybux> explainm perhaps I can help
[12:20] <pielgrzym> I installed apache (first version) from repo, than installed apache2 and removed 'apache'
[12:20] <pielgrzym> I get an error
[12:20] <pielgrzym> can't execute /usr/sbin/apache - file is not executable
[12:21] <pielgrzym> the 'apache' file isn't there
[12:21] <pielgrzym> actually
[12:21] <sybux> it's normal
[12:21] <pielgrzym> how to get rid of this error :)
[12:21] <sybux> if you want to run apache2 it's apache2 you have to launch
[12:21] <pielgrzym> sybux: I know - apache2 works ok
[12:21] <pielgrzym> sybux: I just want to get rid of the error
[12:22] <rahmetli> i have kubuntu on my laptop(A6Vc),without pressing any keys it sometimes displays "LCD ON".why?and how can i preveny this?any idea?
[12:22] <sybux> pielgrzym: oops sorry I mistake (perhaps the late time !) BTW, search in you /etc/init.d for an apache script
[12:22] <pielgrzym> sybux: thanks for help :) I'll try :)
[12:23] <sybux> not sure of it but it's a good way to start
[12:24] <pielgrzym> yup ;) didn't know which file executes the script :)
[12:30] <steveire> is it possible to remove openoffice from kubuntu? It seems to be dependant on a integral language file.
[12:33] <rahmetli> i have kubuntu on my laptop(A6Vc),without pressing any keys it sometimes displays "LCD ON".why?and how can i preveny this?any idea?
[12:33] <Admiral_Chicago> steveire, sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org
[12:33] <steveire> It seems to be dependant on a integral language file.
[12:33] <Stardog> OK. I've managed to get "fglrx" in terminal to show "mesa 3d" after installing ATi graphics driver for radeon 9200. How do I get it to show "ATI" ?
[12:34] <Stardog> driver
[12:34] <Stardog> in fglrxinfo
[12:34] <Stardog> using kubuntyu desktop
[12:35] <Stardog> anyone knows?
[12:35] <Stardog> !ati
[12:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:36] <steveire> Admiral_Chicago:  language-support-en
[12:37] <wildchild> is there any tutorials how to create gmail account in Kmail ?
[12:38] <menace> is it true that linux is as vulnerable to viruses and stuff as windows is?
[12:38] <Hawkwind> wildchild: It's in the settings of gmail itself
[12:39] <Hawkwind> wildchild: Settings -> Accounts
[12:39] <Dr_willis> menace,  i dont think thats true at all.
[12:39] <Dr_willis> menace,  linux has security in mind from the very foundation of the os.  the whole 'root/user' stuff :)
[12:39] <admin__> hi all
[12:39] <menace> k
[12:40] <Dr_willis> howdys
[12:40] <Sa_aS> Please and one can tell me hot to login to Dalnet ?
[12:40] <Dr_willis> Huh?
[12:40] <niko76> hello everybody!
[12:41] <Dr_willis> depends on your irc client Sa_aS  - and what you are trying todo...
[12:41] <Dr_willis> could do a /server irc.dal.net  :)
[12:41] <menace> dr_will, remember a while back when i had the problem with adept and frostwire not working?...well its hapening again....do you remember how to fix it?
[12:41] <Sa_aS> thanks Dr_willis
[12:41] <Dr_willis> menace,  i dont see how the 2 woule be related.
[12:42] <Dr_willis> frostwire - needs the sun java. not the jlg one. (jig? i forget)
[12:42] <Admiral_Chicago> steveire, hmm no idea that means
[12:42] <menace> ok well i just got adept running
[12:42] <Admiral_Chicago> menace, no
[12:42] <menace> but i dont see why frostwire wouldnt work. i have sun java
[12:43] <steveire> Admiral_Chicago: It means I can't seem to uninstall it without removing my kubuntu installation :)
[12:43] <menace> wait...i just uninstalled it typed "sudo apt-get install frostwire" and it cant find the program...its not in adept either
[12:43] <Admiral_Chicago> what dous it say?
[12:43] <Admiral_Chicago> if it's long use a paste bin
[12:43] <Dr_willis> !info frostwire
[12:43] <ubotu> Package frostwire does not exist in any distro I know
[12:44] <Dr_willis> be sure ya got the right repos setup.
[12:44] <Dr_willis> !frostwire
[12:44] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[12:44] <Dr_willis> may not be a package..
[12:44] <Admiral_Chicago> steveire, i don't think that would happen i think thats a bug
[12:45] <Admiral_Chicago> nalioth, can you back that up+
[12:45] <ed_> i have a password question
[12:45] <Admiral_Chicago> this guy wants to remove OOo but it says he will be uninstalling kubuntu-desktop at the same time
[12:45] <Dr_willis> wont matter.
[12:45] <Admiral_Chicago> it won't unistall it will it
[12:45] <Admiral_Chicago> !ask
[12:45] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:45] <Dr_willis> kubuntu-desktpp is a metapackage
[12:46] <ed_> can ther be a different log on password than root password?
[12:46] <Dr_willis> it basicially 'breaks' the meta-package - so it gets removed.
[12:46] <Dr_willis> ed_,  you can have a large # of users added to a system
[12:46] <Dr_willis> ed_,  and several of those users can be given the 'sudo' privileges
[12:46] <ed_> can u disable having to log on?
[12:47] <Dr_willis> You can set GDM/KDM to auto-login as a specific user.
[12:47] <steveire> I didn't say kubuntu-desktop, I said kubuntu. It wants to remove language packages that look essential.
[12:47] <ed_> wheres that?
[12:48] <Dr_willis> in the KDM ControlCenter applet/area would be my guess
[12:48] <Dr_willis> System Admin --> login manager
[12:48] <Dr_willis> under the 'convience' tab
[12:49] <ed_> ok thanks, u c i am trying to get my school to run linux, and that would be a req
[12:49] <Admiral_Chicago> steveire, i once uninstalled OOo and it went fine
[12:49] <King_Brad> does KDE have a "network tools" thing, like gnome does? ya know like a GUI for configureing your network card.... ip addy etc etc?
[12:49] <wildchild> Hawkwind: but there isn't any Kmail :S to configure
[12:50] <steveire> Maybe it's edgy. Doesn't really matter. Just takes up a lot of space.
[12:50] <urosb> hi
[12:51] <urosb> can someone help me with sound problem on Kubuntu Dapper
[12:51] <menace> wtf...i downloaded azureus and now it wont work....whats wrong with my linux?!?!?
[12:52] <Dr_willis> menace,  i would guess a java issue
[12:52] <menace> how can i fix it?
[12:53] <menace> i have sun java 5.0 web start
[12:53] <wildchild> menace u can't open azureus?
[12:53] <menace> no, nore frostwire
[12:53] <menace> adept wont run very often either.
[12:54] <menace> any ideas?
[12:55] <Dr_willis> java -version
[12:55] <Dr_willis> and see wht java you are using
[12:55] <Dr_willis> java version "1.5.0_06"
[12:55] <Dr_willis> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_06-b05)
[12:55] <menace> java version "1.4.2"
[12:56] <menace> java version "1.4.2" gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.0 (Ubuntu 4.1.0-1ubuntu8) Copyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
[12:56] <menace> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
[12:56] <menace> gahhhhh sorry
[12:56] <menace> thought i edited it right
[12:57] <menace> update it maybe?
[12:58] <Dr_willis> You need to set your java alternatives
[12:58] <Dr_willis> !java
[12:58] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:58] <Dr_willis> or install the sun java... OR both. :)
[12:58] <menace> i thought i have sunjava...
[01:00] <rahmetli> i have kubuntu on my laptop(A6Vc),without pressing any keys it sometimes displays "LCD ON".why?and how can i preveny this?any idea?
[01:04] <Dr_willis> displays it when and where...
[01:04] <menace> i just got a warning saying "if you have a router/firewall, please check that you have port 32428 UDP open. Decentralised tracking requires this
[01:05] <menace> whats it mean?
[01:05] <menace> im about to either switch distros or quit linux..this is rediculous
[01:05] <cpk2> how do you undo ln?
[01:06] <rahmetli> DR_willis in the center of the screen
[01:06] <cpk2> specifically i want to undo this ln -s /dev/hdd /home/cpk1/.wine/dosdevices/f\:\:
[01:06] <fignew> menace: WTF are you rambling about? every operating system has ports...
[01:07] <menace> no its not that fignew
[01:07] <fignew> it means go to your router and tell it to foward the ports
[01:07] <menace> its that adept keeps crashing. frostwire wont work. azureus wont work. gaim wont work. firefox wont work.
[01:07] <menace> its annoying as hell
[01:07] <Dr_willis> rahmetli,  and this is.. during boot up? after booted? 40 min after left alone? ect.........
[01:08] <fignew> well, when they "don't work", what do they say?
[01:08] <fignew> rahmetli: is it linux that's showing the message, or is it your laptop?
[01:09] <menace> they dont say anything. they just never run
[01:09] <menace> i click the icon , then next to my mouse arrow the icon bounces
[01:09] <menace> but i wait for hours and it never runs
[01:09] <fignew> then go to the terminal
[01:09] <rahmetli> after getting into the os,anytime after the login,when i am working on it,suddenly it says "LCD display on"
[01:09] <fignew> ermm "Konsole
[01:09] <fignew> "
[01:09] <fignew> under System
[01:09] <fignew> and type in firefox
[01:09] <cpk2> menace: the azureus packages is OLD
[01:10] <rahmetli> fignew i dont know if its os or laptop
[01:10] <menace> i understand cpk2, but that doesnt give a reason why frostwire and adept wont run
[01:10] <menace> tried it fig, on adept and gaim and everything, but it still never runs
[01:10] <cpk2> why wont adept run?
[01:10] <menace> and i tried to put the priority to max. that didnt work either
[01:10] <fignew> plus... azureus sucks :P
[01:10] <menace> i just wanted something like frostwire to work
[01:10] <cpk2> i like azureus =\
[01:11] <fignew> does it say anything?
[01:11] <menace> nothing
[01:12] <menace> and now this warning box wont go away about the port...
[01:12] <menace> i just reinstalled a few days ago too
[01:12] <menace> so its not spyware or anything
[01:12] <fignew> there's no spyware:P
[01:13] <fignew> run: "strace firefox > output" and paste the file "output" into  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:14] <ulyssus> Hi. Does anybody know a good HowTo to run Guild Wars with Cedega?
[01:14] <Dr_willis> Cedega homepage has a forum on that.
[01:14] <ulyssus> thx
[01:15] <Admiral_Chicago> i use ktorrent
[01:15] <Admiral_Chicago> and that runs finu
[01:15] <fignew> ktorrent FTW
[01:15] <menace> i wonder if fedora core is any good
[01:16] <cpk2> menace: that port warning is from azureus
[01:16] <menace> ok
[01:16] <cpk2> i use azureus gaim and firefox without any problems
[01:16] <cpk2> and occasionally use adept
[01:16] <cpk2> so i am wondered what menace did to break his machine =P
[01:16] <menace> fignew, theres too much text to paste
[01:16] <cpk2> wondering even
[01:17] <menace> i just re'installed...
[01:17] <fignew> paste then end of it
[01:17] <fignew> the*
[01:17] <menace> more keeps comming...
[01:17] <fignew> umm
[01:17] <fignew> ok
[01:17] <fignew> do ctrl+c
[01:17] <fignew> and then do killall firefox
[01:18] <Admiral_Chicago> !boinc
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about boinc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:18] <fignew> and then rm -rf ~/.mozilla
[01:18] <menace> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25765/
[01:18] <fignew> I'm assuming you don't have any prefences in mozilla
[01:18] <moonburn> has anyone else's knetworkmanager lost its mind?
[01:19] <Admiral_Chicago> moonburn, did it work before?
[01:19] <Admiral_Chicago> i want to run that rosetta project on my computer
[01:19] <Admiral_Chicago> i think that's what its clled
[01:19] <Admiral_Chicago> called
[01:20] <Admiral_Chicago> i might have it confused with the CETTI project or whatever that one is called
[01:20] <menace> im thinking im gonna go with SLAX, ubuntu, mandriva, or SUSE
[01:20] <menace> they all sound pretty good
[01:20] <fignew> isn't choice just great!
[01:20] <menace> lol yea
[01:21] <cpk2> menace: you are using ubuntu right now...
[01:21] <menace> im using kubuntu
[01:21] <moonburn> it did
[01:21] <cpk2> which is ubuntu with kde
[01:21] <menace> oooh cool
[01:21] <moonburn> SETI?
[01:21] <menace> didnt know that
[01:22] <Admiral_Chicago> moonburn, yea that
[01:22] <Admiral_Chicago> i got it. i need to compile BOINC from source and then run rosetta@home
[01:22] <cpk2> menace: just out of curiousity what did you do to get adept to not work?
[01:22] <menace> i have no clue
[01:22] <moonburn> Admiral_Chicago> knetworkmanager worked fine, even for wifi, until last month... now it won't work for my wifi. i even switched from suse b/c i thought it might be a distro issue, but it seems that it's not
[01:22] <Admiral_Chicago> plus, i'm working on my own protein folding project
[01:22] <cpk2> what error does it give you?
[01:23] <fignew> cpk2: hell, what did he do to get everything not to work
[01:23] <menace> i just re-installed 6 days ago and its only worked 3 times since
[01:23] <menace> no error...it just doesnt run
[01:23] <cpk2> fignew: that too =P
[01:23] <menace> well it trys to run....
[01:23] <cpk2> menace: does apt-get work?
[01:23] <menace> apt-get what?
[01:23] <Admiral_Chicago> moonburn, did you try sudo dpkg --configure knetwork manager
[01:23] <cpk2> menace: try a sudo apt-get update
[01:23] <moonburn> no, i will try that when I boot back into kubuntu... have to use xp for wifi >.<
[01:24] <fignew> Admiral_Chicago: I run electricsheep as a distributed project
[01:24] <moonburn> does winrar do okay with bzips, or should i use 7zip?
[01:24] <fignew> much more useful (to me) than the rest :P
[01:25] <cpk2> you could just use rar
[01:25] <Admiral_Chicago> fignew, what is that?
[01:25] <moonburn> i'm on my windows part right now
[01:25] <fignew> !electricsheep
[01:25] <ubotu> electricsheep: screensaver showing collective dream of sleeping computers. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.4-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2669 kB, installed size 3376 kB
[01:25] <menace> Package frostwire is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package frostwire has no installation candidate
[01:25] <fignew> moonburn: I'd use 7zip over winrar any day
[01:25] <menace> i think my repo's are friend
[01:25] <moonburn> thx
[01:25] <menace> fried*
[01:26] <cpk2> !easysource
[01:26] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:26] <menace> i did that
[01:26] <cpk2> !info frostwire
[01:26] <ubotu> Package frostwire does not exist in any distro I know
[01:26] <cpk2> its not even in any repos I have
[01:27] <menace> i downloaded it before though
[01:27] <menace> with the same repo's
[01:27] <fignew> http://www.frostwire.com/
[01:27] <Admiral_Chicago> okay i need to go study
[01:27] <fignew> just download the .deb from frostwire.com
[01:27] <cpk2> maybe dpkg-reconfigure will fix adpet
[01:27] <bLaZeD> cpk2, if u want frostwire.....google free limewire pro.....its opensource too....and umm well i find it better....frostwire seemed to flake on me and crash...or say file is currput...
[01:27] <cpk2> adept too
[01:28] <cpk2> menace: guess frostwire isnt all you wanted it to be anyways ^^
[01:28] <menace> i used it before though
[01:28] <bLaZeD> theres a rpm for the miewire pro which i used alien to install it and not had any probs wih it
[01:28] <menace> and adept stoped working again...
[01:28] <bLaZeD> well i have to go bbiab
[01:29] <bertha> !es
[01:29] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:30] <craig_> Hello guys
[01:31] <craig_> if there any package developers here
[01:31] <craig_> could you guys compile amarok with njb support
[01:32] <craig_> this gives support for creative nomad mp3 players and dell mp3 players
[01:34] <BonBonTheJon> craig_: quick search looks like Amarok 1.4.2 supports njb
[01:34] <Elisabeth> where are the options to change alt+tab behavoir, e.g. to have it go for all desktops
[01:36] <craig_> it does support njb if it is compiled with njb support
[01:36] <craig_> the latest version is not compiled with njb support
[01:36] <Elisabeth> aha found it
[01:37] <craig_> when the packager compiles it they have to use the njb tag
[01:38] <main2> !realplayer
[01:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:41] <BonBonTheJon> craig_: I don't what to do, but I did find this page (http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Device:NJB), doesn't seem like much of a help
[01:42] <craig_> thanks
[01:43] <craig_> but i think whoever is the package mataner for amarok needs to compile it with the njb tag to enable creative nomad and dell digital jukebox support
[01:46] <SbCl3> i couldn't find this in the FAQ anywhere.... how much space does a Dapper Drake (or whatever the current stable is) AMD64 Kubuntu distribution take up with a standard desktop install?
[01:47] <ubuntu_> Quick question, how do I had an efnet channel to the IRC client?
[01:48] <Dr_willis> which client?
[01:48] <Dr_willis> proberly a setting under the server tab/listings, got an entry for auto joining channels
[01:48] <ubuntu_> the one packaged on the Kubuntu CD
[01:49] <SbCl3> Konversation?
[01:49] <ubuntu_> Yeah
[01:50] <SbCl3> you're on a live CD, which probably means it's temporary...do you know how to join channels without listing them?
[01:50] <oslo> gn
[01:50] <ubuntu_> Nah, can't say I do, just playing around with Kubuntu for the first time.
[01:50] <SbCl3> in this window, type "/server irc.efnet.net" and then "/join #whatever"
[01:51] <SbCl3> to add it to the list permanently, F2 -> New, and a nice interface is there
[01:51] <ubuntu_> Sounds good.
[01:51] <ubuntu_> thanks for that
[01:53] <Random_Transit> hey, question....i want to have top running on tty1 when ubuntu starts...how would i do this??
[01:56] <Knifa> is there any way of me installing KDE on normal ubuntu?
[01:56] <BonBonTheJon> knifa: install kubuntu-desktop
[01:56] <Dr_willis> FAQ #1 on the Kubuntu web site. :)
[01:56] <Dr_willis> I think.
[01:56] <Knifa> ah :p
[01:56] <Knifa> okay
[01:56] <Dr_willis> heh heh
[01:56] <SbCl3> i couldn't find this in the FAQ anywhere.... how much space does a Dapper Drake (or whatever the current stable is) AMD64 Kubuntu distribution take up with a standard desktop install?
[01:57] <Dr_willis> about a gb or 2 :P
[01:57] <SbCl3> that's rather odd, my old one is currently taking up 6 gigs
[01:57] <Knifa> gah
[01:57] <Knifa> 200mb worth of stuff
[01:57] <Knifa> can i have gnome still installed
[01:57] <Knifa> and switch between them?
[01:58] <Random_Transit> yep
[01:58] <Knifa> okay cool
[01:58] <BonBonTheJon> knifa: sure, on gdm there is an option for which you want
[01:58] <SbCl3> it will ask you at gdm or kdm
[01:58] <Knifa> kay
[01:58] <Knifa> it is downloading then :3
[01:58] <SbCl3> actually, i think during kde's install it asks if you want to use the KDM instead
[01:59] <BonBonTheJon> yeah, during install synaptic will have a dialogue asking which you want to use, kdm or gdm
[02:01] <jdunn> I'm having a crash problem with kaffeine playing DVDs.  Yet, kmplayer works fine with DVDs.  Both use the xine engine.  Any idea what's wrong with kaffeine?
[02:02] <cpk2> is kmplayer really that bad? =P
[02:02] <judith_> Is it possible to use KDE dialogues and file selector in GNOME? How?
[02:03] <BonBonTheJon> judith_: kde applications in GNOME will use kde dialogues
[02:03] <jdunn> ???  kmplayer is okay.  I never said it was bad.  Kaffeine is the problem and Kaffeine is the default DVD player.  I can't change the default and it crashes alot.  I want to know how to fix the crash problem on Kaffeine
[02:03] <judith_> BonBonTheJon: How can I get that working?
[02:04] <BonBonTheJon> judith_: just install a kde application, it will do it automatically
[02:04] <BonBonTheJon> judith_: gnome apps won't use kde diaplogues, though
[02:05] <judith_> BonBonTheJon: ohh! I wanted to "force" Firefox to use KDE file selector?
[02:05] <BonBonTheJon> judith_: don't know about that one
[02:08] <soulrider> does anyone know if autocad will run well with win ?
[02:08] <soulrider> wine*
[02:09] <Hawkwind> soulrider: No it won't
[02:09] <SbCl3> soulrider: if you have enough memory, you could try vmware...
[02:11] <josesito> why am i seeing thumbnails of deleted pictures from my digital camera in konqueror?? are they somehow cached?? is it possible to clear that cache?
[02:12] <BonBonTheJon> josito: i think konqueror keeps deleted files in a folder .Trash, maybe thats what you are seeing
[02:12] <cpk2> josesito: sure you can clear it from configure konqueror
[02:13] <JRH3K5> I want my server to go to standby when it's inactive, and then to wake on LAN, like Windows can do.  Is there software that allows this?
[02:14] <josesito> BonBonTheJon, nope,,,there is no .Trash because i deleted them with shift+delete
[02:15] <mike> how do i take a screen shot in kubuntu?
[02:16] <BonBonTheJon> mike: hit the print screen key
[02:16] <Dr_willis> hit the printscreen key :)
[02:16] <mike> where dose it save it?
[02:16] <Dr_willis> Logical eh? :P
[02:16] <Dr_willis> works better then it dows under windowsXP
[02:17] <Dr_willis> amazing how Dumb xp can be. :)
[02:17] <BonBonTheJon> mike: ksnapshow opens up, you can save it then
[02:17] <Hawkwind> ksnapshot :P
[02:18] <BonBonTheJon> sorry, watchingtv, lol
[02:20] <mike> thanks
[02:21] <physicsnick> hey guys, i'm trying to enable vnc on kubuntu edgy, but i can't find the option in System Settings. it seems to have changed from dapper.
[02:21] <physicsnick> how can i configure it from system settings? alternatively, how can i configure it from the console?
[02:24] <NameNomad> does anyone know how to mount an extra cdrom drive?  I think the command is 'sudo mount /media/cdrom1/ -o unhide' but I'm not totally sure
[02:24] <Dr_willis> mount -t iso9660 /dev/whatever /media/whever
[02:25] <Dr_willis> make sure the mounting dir exists first
[02:26] <bertha> !es
[02:26] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:42] <rcmn> i have a pbm to read dvd with every players xine/mplayer/vlc, i tried /dev/dvd ;/dev/hdc ;/dev/cdrom.I can mount unmount with user and see files on any dvd.But i can't play it.
[02:43] <RatKing> How can I start the ruby command prompt in konsole?
[02:44] <rcmn> rtfm
[02:44] <Hawkwind> rcmn: That's not very nice and not really how we answer questions here
[02:44] <Hawkwind> RatKing: Since I don't know ruby, have you tried asking in #Ruby by chance ?
[02:44] <RatKing> Not yet, I'll go give it a try
[02:45] <Hawkwind> RatKing: I only suggest it since they might know and I don't :)
right but just rtm
[02:45] <rcmn> that's correct right
[02:46] <Hawkwind> rcmn: No!  That is not how we deal with users.  We give them as much help as possible
[02:46] <rcmn> ok sorry
[02:46] <RatKing> What would rtfm do? :)
[02:46] <rcmn> nothing
[02:46] <rcmn> forget it
[02:47] <fowlduck> RatKing: i think it's irb
[02:47] <fowlduck> RatKing: and you have to install it
[02:47] <rahmetli> my system doesnt use any swap,i generally dont see it using,when does the system need it?
[02:47] <Jucato> RatKing: it means "read the f___ing manual", an answer which isn't allowed here actually
[02:49] <Dr_willis> 'please refer to the proper documantion'
[02:49] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:49] <Dr_willis> PRTTTPD
[02:49] <BonBonTheJon> lol
[02:50] <Jucato> heh... you have an extra "T" :P
[02:50] <Dr_willis> 'please refer to the tradational proper documantion'
[02:50] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:50] <Jucato> lol
[02:51] <Dr_willis> 'please learn to put forth a little effort'      :)
[02:51] <BonBonTheJon> google it?
[02:51] <Dr_willis> wanted to say that a LOT to some people in these channels
[02:51] <Jucato> PLTPFALE ?
[02:53] <RatKing> I can't find anything with google
[02:53] <RatKing> And they won't respond in the ruby channel
[02:54] <Hawkwind> RatKing: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2023
[02:54] <Hawkwind> RatKing: First hit on google actually :P
[02:54] <NameNomad> !konsole
[02:54] <ubotu> konsole: X terminal emulator for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 673 kB, installed size 2096 kB
[02:54] <fowlduck> RatKing: i think it's irb
[02:54] <fowlduck> RatKing: and you have to install it
[02:54] <fowlduck> sudo apt-get install irb
[02:55] <BonBonTheJon> !irb
[02:55] <ubotu> irb: Interactive Ruby (irb). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (dapper), package size 3 kB, installed size 44 kB
[02:55] <fowlduck> i win
[02:55] <fowlduck> and i answered you ages ago ;)
[02:56] <fowlduck> hi Seveas
[02:56] <NameNomad> I can't find the Konsole manual, can anyone tell me where I can find a list of all konsole commands?
[02:57] <fowlduck> konsole --help?
[02:57] <fowlduck> NameNomad: or 'man konsole'
[02:57] <Seveas> hi
[02:57] <Jucato> NameNomad: type "man:/konsole" in Konqueror?
[02:57] <Hawkwind> man konsole doesn't exist
[02:57] <fowlduck> but if you mean commands to use on the konsole, use man bash
[02:57] <fowlduck> Hawkwind: forgive me, I'm on edgy
[02:58] <RatKing> Ahh, I didn't have irb installed as I thought I did, Thanks guys :)
[02:58] <Hawkwind> fowlduck: Is there man konsole in Edgy ?
[02:58] <Jucato> Hawkwind: it does
[02:58] <fowlduck> RatKing: np :)
[02:58] <cpk2> i have a man for konsole...
[02:58] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Not in Dapper
[02:58] <fowlduck> Hawkwind: indeed
[02:58] <Jucato> Hawkwind: I'm on Dapper :P
[02:58] <Hawkwind> Atleast not here
[02:58] <cpk2> <--- using dapper
[02:58] <Jucato> Hawkwind: what KDE version?
[02:58] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Hmmm, I don't have it
[02:58] <NameNomad> fowlduck/Jucato: non-existent directory/file
[02:58] <Hawkwind> Jucato: 3.5.3
[02:58] <fowlduck> NameNomad: ???
[02:58] <Jucato> Hawkwind: ah... probably in KDE 3.5.4 only
[02:58] <Hawkwind> Heh, and NameNomad is on 3.5.3 or lower too
[02:59] <Hawkwind> fowlduck: It was added to KDE 3.5.4 and above
[02:59] <fowlduck> NameNomad: konsole --help
[02:59] <Jucato> figures... :P
[02:59] <NameNomad> fowlduck, tried that too
[02:59] <Hawkwind> I have it on 3.5.5 in Edgy
[02:59] <fowlduck> NameNomad: and?
[02:59] <Hawkwind> NameNomad: konsole --help works here
[02:59] <Jucato> Hawkwind: 3.5.5 was released? O_O
[02:59] <Hawkwind> Jucato: No
[02:59] <Jucato> SVN?
[02:59] <Hawkwind> No
[02:59] <NameNomad> fowlduck: nothing useful at this moment
[03:00] <fowlduck> NameNomad: then google "man konsole"
[03:00] <NameNomad> fowlduck: ...why didn't I think about that?
[03:02] <fowlduck> wow, this isn't easy to find
[03:03] <Jucato> have you guys tried using the Konsole help page instead of the man page? (if there's one?)
[03:03] <fowlduck> NameNomad: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/konsole/konsole.pdf#search=%22man%20konsole%22
[03:03] <fowlduck> NameNomad: likely all you'll ever need :)
[03:04] <fowlduck> or, rather: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/konsole/konsole.pdf
[03:04] <Jucato> help:/konsole in Konqueror?
[03:04] <Jucato> hey nice find fowlduck :)
[03:04] <fowlduck> Jucato: ha, that's identical to the help:/konsole
[03:05] <Jucato> er.. yeah lol
[03:05] <fowlduck> well, good find for the both of us!
[03:05] <Jucato> hehe :)
[03:05] <cpk2> for some reason i thought the konsole man would be a little longer than it is...
[03:05] <fowlduck> I'll have to remember help:/ in the future, thanks Jucato
[03:06] <Jucato> now if only NameNomad found what we found :)
[03:06] <fowlduck> if only he was still around
[03:06] <fowlduck> cpk2: i bet they figured most people using konsole would look for help through the gui
[03:06] <fowlduck> which yields far more information
[03:07] <Jucato> cpk2: man pages aren't that long. but doc pages usually are
[03:07] <josh_> ok
[03:07] <josh_> i have powned my system
[03:07] <josh_> bad
[03:07] <fowlduck> ggs
[03:07] <fowlduck> ftw
[03:07] <cpk2> Jucato: have you read the iptables man? =)
[03:07] <Jucato> cpk2: err.. well.... :)
[03:07] <josh_> i need to know how to get my system back to the way it was about 5 hours ago
[03:07] <josh_> i dont know what i have installed but it screwed me up bad
[03:08] <cpk2> even when you know what you are looking for it still takes a while to find it in there =P
[03:08] <josh_> my themes are gone and everything
[03:08] <us> I know this has probably already in the forums but I can't find it: is there any way to repair an installation of dapper via CD?
[03:08] <us> I just accidentally hosed my MBR and want to get it back fast if possible.
[03:09] <cpk2> josh_: what themes? have your broken your computer to the point of almost not being able to use it?
[03:10] <BonBonTheJon> us: did you mess up the MBR or grub
[03:10] <josh_> yeah
[03:10] <pierreth> Hello, I am unable to use Aspell, what should I do?
[03:10] <josh_> i managed to salvage alot but the thing is my kdm is all fucked
[03:10] <Hawkwind> !language
[03:10] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:10] <josh_> sorry
[03:11] <Jucato> let's propagate the use of fsck instead of f?ck :)
[03:11] <Hawkwind> josh_: Boot a Live CD and fix it
[03:11] <josh_> i dont know how to fix it with a live cd though
[03:11] <josh_> i dont know what i broke
[03:11] <cpk2> i thought you just said kdm broke
[03:11] <Hawkwind> Surely you have daily backups
[03:11] <josh_> lol surely i should
[03:12] <josh_> but alas.... nope
[03:13] <pierreth> Aspell is now working in Kontact
[03:13] <pierreth> but it is working with Kate
[03:13] <josh_> what is the command to reconfigure x?
[03:13] <pierreth> it is not working with Konversation
[03:13] <Hawkwind> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:14] <Jucato> josh_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:14] <Hawkwind> josh_: ^^^^^^
[03:14] <cpk2> Hawkwind: wins!
[03:14] <Sasuk3> <3
[03:14] <dennister> howdy all
[03:14] <Jucato> well I had to put in josh_'s name first :P
[03:14] <cpk2> hrmm, jucato wins on a technicality!
[03:14] <cpk2> sorry Hawkwind =(
[03:15] <Jucato> heh :)
[03:15] <pierreth> I have a message asking to check if aspell in on my path
[03:15] <pierreth> but aspell is on my path
[03:15] <dennister> anyone need some assistance with multimedia?
[03:15] <CraZy675> I've installed fonts, but now firefox displays one of these wierd fonts, how do I change this or find which font it is to un-install it
[03:16] <pierreth> CraZy675: look the firefox preferences
[03:16] <CraZy675> yea i changed all that, didn't seem to work
[03:17] <CraZy675> unless i have to do it in about:config somewhere
[03:17] <pierreth> CraZy675: have you tried to restart it?
[03:17] <dennister> no takers? :-) on to my question: how do I delete a symbolic link in the commandline?
[03:18] <BonBonTheJon> dennister: delete the file that is the link to the other file
[03:18] <BonBonTheJon> dennister: a symbolic link is just a file, you can delete it
[03:18] <dennister> i'm nervous about deleting a whole directory...so I delete this huge long line of code?
[03:18] <NameNomad> O.k., I can't find a list of konsole commands, which is really all I want
[03:18] <CraZy675> pierreth: yes i have restarted firefox, not x
[03:18] <NameNomad> does anyone know where i can get my hands on one?
[03:19] <linuxkid2> NameNomad: google for standard Bash and Linux commands.
[03:19] <pierreth> CraZy675: are having this problem with all Web pages?
[03:19] <cpk2> i think if you did ln -s /hi/file1 /hi/file2 you would just rm /hi/file2 to remove the link
[03:19] <NameNomad> linuxkid2: ok, thanks
[03:19] <BonBonTheJon> dennister: it should just be one file, like in my web site I have /www/wiki to /var/mediawiki
[03:20] <cpk2> BonBonTheJon: was my example right?
[03:20] <BonBonTheJon> cpk2: i think so
[03:20] <dennister> yeah...and now i'm kicking myself for even posting this question 'cause the next lines tell me how to delete it
[03:21] <dennister> so many howtos assume you know how to do something
[03:21] <Jucato> NameNomad: this would help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands (CLI commands are universal, whether you're on GNOME or KDE)
[03:21] <BonBonTheJon> dennister: so did you figure out your problem
[03:21] <CraZy675> pierreth: only problem w/ sites that the default fonts not defined with css are screwed
[03:21] <linuxkid2> I know what bin, dev, etc. and home are for. but what's var, proc, sys, lost+found, and those others for?
[03:21] <linuxkid2> and usr, I know that.
[03:21] <dennister> bonbon: yes, the hyams howto actually tells me how to delete it
[03:22] <dennister> that's rare in a howto, u know
[03:22] <BonBonTheJon> linuxkid: proc holds system information, lost+found is used by ext3
[03:22] <pierreth> CraZy675: So, what do you have as default font in your preferences?
[03:22] <BonBonTheJon> linuxkid: var is used to hold folders for programs, like apache (web server) is at /var/www
[03:22] <Jucato> linuxkid2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[03:22] <BonBonTheJon> or that
[03:23] <Jucato> :)
[03:23] <cpk2> linuxkid2: lost+found is when bad things happen to your drive
[03:23] <cpk2> and then you get happy again because you managed to get some data back!
[03:23] <CraZy675> i dont remember what it was but its deja vu sans now
[03:23] <Admiral_Chicago> can someone help me, Konversation is showing me a network list and i can't close it
[03:24] <fignew> Does anyone know how artsD's network sound works?
[03:24] <dennister> Admiral: what do you mean u can't close it? can't close the program? no box on top or left corner?
[03:25] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: just close the tab?
[03:25] <dennister> fignew: how in depth do u want to know? what problem are u having?
[03:25] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: it won't go away, i click it and nothing
[03:25] <fignew> dennister: I see the checkbox for it in sound config, but nothing else
[03:25] <Admiral_Chicago> btw, edgy & xgl
[03:25] <Jucato> aaah
[03:25] <Jucato> Ctrl+W doesn't work?
[03:26] <fignew> dennister: I have tryed it over SSH + X11
[03:26] <fignew> but the sound wasn't forwarded
[03:26] <Jucato> err... is it a dialog box or a tab?
[03:26] <dennister> k...beyond me, sorry, fignew
[03:26] <fignew> !!!
[03:26] <fignew> what were you going to say
[03:26] <fignew> because I know nothing about it :/
[03:26] <NameNomad> jucato: Sweet, that link gave me exactly what I've been looking for
[03:26] <fignew> !arts
[03:26] <ubotu> arts: sound system from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 5 kB, installed size 36 kB
[03:27] <Jucato> NameNomad: no problem :)
[03:27] <dennister> it was awhile ago that i was working with artsd; i wouldn't know how to do it with ssh and that
[03:28] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: no
[03:28] <Admiral_Chicago> right click and close doesn't either
[03:28] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: which network list is this? the one that comes up when you first open Konvi?
[03:28] <BonBonTheJon> if nothing else works, you can run xkill and then click on the window
[03:29] <dennister> k...maybe when I get to be less of a noob i'll be able to help more...although I successfully programmed a dhcpd.conf daemon from scratch last night :-)
[03:29] <Jucato> or is it the Channel List (/list)?
[03:29] <Admiral_Chicago> yea it shows what network i'm on and channels
[03:29] <Admiral_Chicago> the title bar says Server list
[03:29] <dennister> i'm off for now folks...later
[03:30] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: ah that one? it's a dialog box right?
[03:30] <Admiral_Chicago> something like that yes
[03:31] <gnomefreak> linuxkid2: please turn off the away message
[03:31] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: hm... Esc doesn't work? It's supposed to have a "Connect" and "Close" button at the buttom
[03:32] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: no thats not the one
[03:32] <Admiral_Chicago> here i'll take a screen shot
[03:32] <Jucato> please do, coz I'm getting confused... @_@
[03:34] <Jucato> hm.. does anyone know how I can delete a whole day's list of events in Kontact/Korganizer?
[03:34] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: off the do to list+?
[03:34] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: no. in the calendar
[03:35] <Admiral_Chicago> right click doesn't work?
[03:35] <Jucato> I have to delete the events one by one...
[03:36] <Admiral_Chicago> ah i see what you mean
[03:36] <NameNomad> My end goal is to mount my extra cd-rw drive, so I have to first create a directory for it.  Someone suggested the command 'mount -t iso9660 /dev/whatever /media/whever'.  My questions are: what does the '-t' input do? Does it matter what I put for the
[03:36] <NameNomad> "/dev/wherever"
[03:36] <NameNomad> option
[03:36] <NameNomad> and the "/media/wherever" part?  Can I just put whatever I want?
[03:36] <Jucato> NameNomad: -t sets the filesystem type (in this case, iso9960)
[03:37] <Jucato> the /dev/xxxx has to be specific, wherever your CD-RW drive is connected
[03:37] <pierreth> OK, now things are working
[03:37] <Jucato>  the /media/whatever, you can make on your own.
[03:37] <pierreth> Is there a way to do a fast switching from one language to another?
[03:40] <Admiral_Chicago> http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i224/admiral_pro/konvproblem.png
[03:40] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: that is what i can't get rid of
[03:40] <Jucato> ok checking
[03:41] <Jucato> ok that is just totally wrong... it's missing all buttons
[03:41] <Jucato> it supposed to have New, Edit, and Delete at the side, and Connect and Close at the bottom
[03:41] <Jucato> ... XGL...
[03:42] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: edgy maybe?
[03:42] <Jucato> XGL more probably
[03:43] <Admiral_Chicago> whatever i put it a different viewport
[03:43] <Admiral_Chicago> now i have another problem, konact is only letting me sawe one persont
[03:43] <Jucato> hm... that's strange too...
[03:44] <NameNomad> ugh, I either approached this whole problem wrong to begin with, or I did something wrong.  It told me that no medium was found.  My problem is that whenever I put something in my cdrw drive, my slave drive, my computer can't read it, or my computer freezes and the light on my case that shows it's working is on.  I thought that I could mount my cdrw drive, but I think I've got something wrong here.
[03:45] <ShadowApex> is there some way to create a new user from the command line?
[03:45] <Jucato> NameNomad: if the CD-RW was connected during installation, most probably it has already been detected, added to your /etc/fstab, and is set to automount when you put in a CD
[03:45] <trappist> ShadowApex: adduser
[03:45] <smaggard> shadow> adduser
[03:45] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: nevermind
[03:45] <ShadowApex> thx ^_^
[03:45] <Admiral_Chicago> just can't read right
[03:45] <Jucato> :)
[03:46] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: btw, that ubuntu classroom that you did on CLI saved my life
[03:46] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: it did? glad it helped. :)
[03:46] <NameNomad> Jucato: Then what could be the reason that when I put in a cd (in this case a blank one) it freezes, slows, or doesn't work?
[03:46] <Jucato> but we have to be thankful to the guys who gave the lesson :)
[03:46] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm teaching a kid CLI for a project we are doing using UNIX computers and i'm using that to teach him
[03:46] <Jucato> NameNomad: any CD at all?
[03:47] <Admiral_Chicago> i thought that was you who wrote it / presented it
[03:47] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: lol no. :)
[03:47] <Jucato> I just transcribe what was delivered/presented
[03:47] <Jucato> (you didn't read the Note: part did you? :P
[03:47] <Admiral_Chicago> ah i'd be on NUN but I have way too much homework to do as it is now
[03:48] <NameNomad> Jucato: I tried a blank cd and disc 1 for Gothic 2, let me try a music cd real quick
[03:48] <ShadowApex> dang.... is there some way I can delete a user's session? I (stupidly) typed in kdm restart in the Konsole and now when I try and log in, it keeps restarting kdm.
[03:50] <Admiral_Chicago> ShadowApex: did you try to kill X?
[03:50] <ShadowApex> ?   how would I go about doing this?
[03:50] <ShadowApex> type it in the command line?
[03:51] <Admiral_Chicago> umm i know ctrl alt backspace works
[03:51] <CraZy675> where are my fonts stored?
[03:51] <Admiral_Chicago> i think its sudo killall xserver
[03:51] <NameNomad> Jucato: I just put in a music cd and it worked fine.  So why should it act weird with a blank cd?
[03:51] <Jucato> CraZy675: /usr/share/fonts and ~/.kde/share/fonts I think
[03:51] <NameNomad> Rather, why should it get so bogged down it freezes?
[03:51] <CraZy675> Jucato: thanks
[03:52] <ShadowApex> where do I enter in that command though?
[03:52] <ShadowApex> log in in Failsafe mode?
[03:52] <Jucato> CraZy675: an easier way to access the fonts is through Konqueror (type in fonts:/) or in System Settings
[03:52] <ShadowApex> or press crtl alt f1?
[03:52] <Admiral_Chicago> ShadowApex: yes
[03:52] <ShadowApex> k
[03:52] <ShadowApex> thx
[03:52] <Admiral_Chicago> ShadowApex: they both work
[03:52] <ShadowApex> *trying*
[03:52] <Gevaudan82> Hello all...I'm trying to configure the onscreen support for the IBM special keys in kubuntu...I'm following a guide specific to kubuntu and one of the steps mentions modifying /etc/udev/permissions.d ...i don't have this although I do have /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules ...are these equivilant?
[03:52] <Jucato> NameNomad: that I wouldn't know. a bad CD?
[03:54] <ShadowApex> "xserver: no processes were killed"
[03:54] <Admiral_Chicago> type pstree
[03:54] <NameNomad> Jucato: New.  Man, I am stumped.  Gonna have to consider this one real hard.
[03:54] <Admiral_Chicago> and you'll see some out put
[03:54] <Jucato> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart ?
[03:55] <Arepie_> hello all...
[03:55] <Arepie_> i've installed vmware with automatix, when i run it, it ask me for a .vmx file.. where can i get that file?
[03:55] <TheHighChild> Anyone know how I can make my KDE window decorations even smaller than the 'tiny' in the Systems Settings menu?
[03:55] <Arepie_> !vmware
[03:55] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[03:55] <BonBonTheJon> Arepie_: the vmware website has some to download
[03:56] <Admiral_Chicago> TheHighChild: custom?
[03:56] <trappist> Arepie_: the vmx file is a virtual filesystem for an operating system.  you have to make one, or you can download one.
[03:56] <Dr_willis> Arepie_,  thats a file that comes wth the differnet vmware images for various os's  its a 'settings' file
[03:56] <Admiral_Chicago> no that's only for the panel that i know oy
[03:56] <Admiral_Chicago> of*
[03:57] <TheHighChild> Admiral_Chicago: Where is that option? or do you know where the config is that holds the numerical value of pixels?
[03:58] <Admiral_Chicago> TheHighChild: i actually know that the only thing is when i configured my panel, i set it to a custom size, i don't know about window decorations
[03:58] <Admiral_Chicago> plus i'm on XGL so it's different...
[03:58] <zam>     hi all
[03:58] <Jucato> TheHighChild: the width of window decorations are controlled by the different window decoration engines (Crystal, deKorator, etc). Crystal has a "Border width" and "Titlebar height"
[03:59] <Jucato> afaik, the "Tiny" settings only affects the panel (Kicker), not window decorations
[03:59] <TheHighChild> Jucato: ok, I am using plastik. I'll see if I can find another that doesn't look like crap
[03:59] <Jucato> hold on let me check Plastik's settings
[03:59] <menace> OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE. FrostWire works best with Sun JRE available at http://www.java.com OOPS, unable to locate java exec in /usr/lib/ hierarchy You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com ls: /usr/java/j*: No such file or directory OOPS, unable to locate java exec in /usr/java/ hierarchy You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com ls: /opt/j*: No such fil
[03:59] <menace> rarchy You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[03:59] <Admiral_Chicago> TheHighChild: he is correct. i use plastik because it's the least offensive
[03:59] <menace> anyone know how to fix that?
[03:59] <TheHighChild> Jucato: It's the "border size" not the kicker
[03:59] <Admiral_Chicago> or you could write your owe
[04:00] <Jucato> different window decorations have different settings. so Plastik has different names from Crystal
[04:00] <Jucato> (the new Crystal from Edgy looks nicer than Dapper's)
[04:00] <TheHighChild> I just got an awesome LCD and it seems like the borders are massive
[04:01] <ShadowApex> Admiral: I did pstree and it displayed a list (processes?)
[04:01] <Jucato> hm... I don't see any setting for border size in Plastik...
[04:01] <Jucato> err sorry
[04:01] <TheHighChild> I'd like to upgrade. I just don't have the time or tolerance I used to with debugging and fixing the broken stuffs
[04:01] <Jucato> it's there :)
[04:01] <Jucato> unfortunately, I don't think Plastik has any other option other than those in the drop down list
[04:02] <Admiral_Chicago> anyways coffee time
[04:02] <Admiral_Chicago> later all
[04:02] <TheHighChild> Crystall is nice, has a custom
[04:03] <TheHighChild> 15 it is. Thanks for the suggestion
[04:03] <Jucato> TheHighChild: yeah. although I don't like the buttons... Edgy's buttons are nicer than Dapper's :)
[04:03] <TheHighChild> Jucato: What buttons?
[04:03] <Jucato> the window buttons (close, minimize, maximize, etc)
[04:04] <Admiral_Chicago> that was strange...
[04:04] <TheHighChild> hmm, they're the same as teh Plastik. I wonder if I've got something that overrides them
[04:04] <Jucato> what do you mean they're the same?
[04:04] <TheHighChild> nvm, I am mistaken ;)
[04:04] <ShadowApex> Admiral: I did pstree and it displayed a list (processes?)
[04:05] <Jucato> ok :)
[04:05] <TheHighChild> I'm beat/stupid. I got a new job (Windows Desktop Support) It's lowered my IQ significantly in the last 2 weeks.
[04:05] <Jucato> heh :)
[04:05] <gpkumaran> hi everyone, which is the best download manager for kubuntu
[04:06] <TheHighChild> It's sooooo much worse than before I moved to Linux
[04:06] <TheHighChild> I swear, there was a Service Pack Threetard
[04:06] <Jucato> gpkumaran: KGet
[04:06] <ShadowApex> ugh...
[04:07] <Arepie_> i've installed vmware with automatix, the problem is, there's no "vmware server console" or it is no "vmware server console" ?
[04:07] <ShadowApex> "Is there some way I can delete a user's session? I (stupidly) typed in kdm restart in the Konsole and now when I try and log in, it keeps restarting kdm."
[04:07] <bertha> !es
[04:07] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:07] <menace> !frostwire
[04:07] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:07] <Jucato> ShadowApex: restarting doesn't work?
[04:07] <LeeJunFan> ShadowApex: it's not under kmenu->system?
[04:08] <ShadowApex> restarting wont work
[04:08] <LeeJunFan> ShadowApex: try alt-f2 kbuildsycoca
[04:08] <fignew> does anyone know how to disable/enable a network card (I think I'm having HW probs) (i'm talking like actually turning it off) not just ifconfig/ifdown
[04:08] <Jucato> LeeJunFan: you're addressing the wrong person I think
[04:08] <ShadowApex> k
[04:08] <LeeJunFan> ShadowApex, Jucato: yep, sry.
[04:09] <LeeJunFan> Arepie_: it should be under kmenu->system (vmware server console), try running kbuildsycoca in a shell if you don't see it, then check again.
[04:09] <gpkumaran> !download manager
[04:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about download manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <gpkumaran> !kget
[04:10] <ubotu> kget: download manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6.2 (dapper), package size 425 kB, installed size 1164 kB
[04:10] <BonBonTheJon> ktorrent is good
[04:10] <Jucato> BonBonTheJon: KTorrent isn't a download manager
[04:10] <BonBonTheJon> yeah, guess not
[04:10] <Arepie_> Reusing existing ksycoca
[04:10] <Arepie_> kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[04:10] <Jucato> Arepie_: ignore those error messages
[04:11] <LeeJunFan> Arepie_: that's normal.
[04:11] <Jucato> just check K Menu again
[04:11] <LeeJunFan> Arepie_: now check your menu
[04:11] <ShadowApex> LeeJunFan: so that alt-f2 was directed towards me right?
[04:11] <Arepie_> noope.. only vmware player
[04:11] <LeeJunFan> ShadowApex: no it wasn't, sry.
[04:11] <ShadowApex> lol
[04:11] <ShadowApex> dang...
[04:11] <Jucato> Arepie_: that's probably what was installed
[04:11] <Gevaudan82> Does anyone know how to change the links that exist in the Kubuntu Storage Manager? I already have my drives mounted and just want to change the storage shortcuts to  point to the mount points
[04:12] <LeeJunFan> Arepie_: I've never used automatix, but I know after installing vmware server manually it shows up fine in the kmenu under system.
[04:12] <ShadowApex> so no solution for me?
[04:12] <Arepie_> can i install vmware from adept?
[04:13] <Jucato> ShadowApex: hm... are you set to Start from a Previous Session or from a Blank Session?
[04:13] <Jucato> Arepie_: it seems VMWare player was already installed by Automatix
[04:13] <LeeJunFan> ShadowApex: you might try clearing /tmp and /var/tmp and then restart kdm.
[04:13] <LeeJunFan> ShadowApex: that IS meant for you :)
[04:13] <ShadowApex> ^_^
[04:13] <Jucato> ShadowApex: how about my question?
[04:13] <ShadowApex> so just rm /tmp?
[04:14] <ShadowApex> Jucato: restarting won't work
[04:14] <Jucato> that wasn't my question
[04:14] <LeeJunFan> ShadowApex: no rm -rf /tmp/.
[04:14] <gpkumaran> jucato: i have tried kget in another distro(knoppix). but its not as fast as flashget or IDM in windows
 ShadowApex: hm... are you set to Start from a Previous Session or from a Blank Session?
[04:14] <ShadowApex> oh
[04:14] <ShadowApex> lol, I'm pretty sure it's set to Previous Session
[04:15] <LeeJunFan> ShadowApex: nvermind that wont work
[04:15] <ShadowApex> because I typed in "kdm restart" in konsole
[04:15] <Jucato> ShadowApex: you can try going to ~/.kde/share/config/session and clear it
[04:15] <ShadowApex> so now when I log in it redoes that command
[04:15] <ShadowApex> kk...
[04:16] <Jucato> of course, Katapult and KMix will not load once you login successfully
[04:16] <Jucato> hm.. what do you need to play .mkv files?
[04:16] <LeeJunFan> ShadowApex: try 'find /tmp/. -exec rm -rf {} \;'
[04:17] <LeeJunFan> ah right, might be in the session, good call.
[04:17] <ShadowApex> Jucato: so delete everything in that folder?
[04:18] <Jucato> ShadowApex: hmm yes. unless you can see something in there that looks like "kdm" or "konsole"?
[04:18] <NeoChaosX> https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-icons Hmm, says it's implemented for Edgy. Wonder why there hasn't been a kde-icons-oxygen package yet
[04:19] <ShadowApex> yeah
[04:19] <ShadowApex> there's konsole in there
[04:19] <ShadowApex> followed by a huge number o.o
[04:19] <ShadowApex> lol
[04:19] <Jucato> ShadowApex: no kdm? try deleting that konsole file and try to login again
[04:20] <ShadowApex> k
[04:21] <ShadowApex> just typing in this huge number is troublesome
[04:21] <Jucato> NeoChaosX: strange indeed... maybe it isn't complete?
[04:21] <andrivid> Hey
[04:21] <andrivid> Hello?
[04:21] <Jucato> ShadowApex: try Tab completion?
[04:21] <BonBonTheJon> hi
[04:21] <NeoChaosX> I dunno
[04:21] <LeeJunFan> ShadowApex: rm konsole[tab] 
[04:21] <andrivid> Im wondering if Kopete supports actual chat rooms, or just im/conferences..?
[04:21] <NeoChaosX> It might be finished artistically, but hasn't been packaged properly yet
[04:22] <fateisajester> that worldpay thing is not taking my banks visa card. does anyone know where i can purhase cedega with paypal or check or anything other than world pay?
[04:22] <BonBonTheJon> anndrivid: Kopete doesn't support chat rooms yet, its in the works
[04:22] <Jucato> or they probably decided not to include Oxygen yet
[04:22] <andrivid> Okay.
[04:22] <andrivid> Any idea how soo I can expect that?
[04:22] <Jucato> it might be pre-empting KDE 4
[04:22] <cpk2> fateisajester: WINE cant get the job done for you?
[04:23] <BonBonTheJon> andrivid: no idea
[04:23] <andrivid> Okay.
[04:23] <andrivid> Well I hope it comes soon.
[04:23] <fateisajester> i hear good things about cedega
[04:23] <BonBonTheJon> me too
[04:23] <fateisajester> i havent read too much about wine
[04:24] <cpk2> fateisajester: what are you hoping to use cedega for?
[04:24] <andrivid> I also hope they include fitering, like bot ffiltering..and flood filtering
[04:24] <cpk2> fateisajester: cedega is basically wine
[04:24] <Jucato> andrivid: chat room for which protocol? (YM, MSN, AIM, etc.)
[04:24] <andrivid> cedega is just wine, having been optimized for game emulation
[04:24] <andrivid> YM
[04:24] <fateisajester> sims, soldier of fortune2, half life, diablo, etc
[04:24] <cpk2> andrivid: cedega is called wineX though =P
[04:25] <fateisajester> andrivid: but it has a nice gui
[04:25] <andrivid> Hey, would anyone know of any games available for Linux , Kubuntu specifically...something bigger then a solitaire thing...something good.
[04:25] <cpk2> fateisajester: many games work with wine, the only problem I am aware of with wine is that sometimes copy protection gets in the way
[04:25] <cpk2> andrivid: kde-games
[04:25] <BonBonTheJon> andrivid: search for ubuntu games, there is a whole site about it
[04:25] <NeoChaosX> andrivid: Frozen Bubble if you like Bust-A-Move
[04:26] <fateisajester> andrivid: i love tux racer
[04:26] <NeoChaosX> Super Tux is you're fan of sidescrollers
[04:26] <cpk2> andrivid: there is a kde-games meta package
[04:26] <NeoChaosX> if*
[04:26] <andrivid> well...i have games like robots and shit...but i mean something more then that
[04:26] <Jucato> CAUTION: Frozen Bubble is quite addictive...
[04:26] <andrivid> like Doom III
[04:26] <andrivid> or something
[04:27] <cpk2> !quake
[04:27] <ubotu> Quake runs natively under linux see http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/ for details
[04:27] <NeoChaosX> Jucato: Haha, yeah
[04:27] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Very addictive!
[04:27] <ShadowApex> Jucato: >.< Didn't work
[04:27] <Jucato> ooh Hawkwind's back :)
[04:27] <NeoChaosX> I don't think I've ever got past level 30 on FB
[04:27] <Jucato> ShadowApex: hm... try removing everything in the session folder?
[04:27] <ShadowApex> k
[04:28] <Hawkwind> FB is actually darn easy.  Too easy to finish in fact
[04:28] <Jucato> ShadowApex: just take a mental note of the stuff that's in there, just in case you want to run them again
[04:29] <NameNomad> gotta run
[04:29] <NameNomad> adios everybody
[04:29] <intelikey> FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.
[04:29] <intelikey> kdeinit: couldn't open() tty: Permission denied
[04:29] <intelikey> _IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root
[04:30] <Dr_willis> Theres a South Park Eposide where htey are Playing World of Warcraft. :P
[04:30] <intelikey> i get that first error several times at each startup of X
[04:30] <intelikey> the second one one time each.          any howto fix's ?
[04:31] <intelikey> can i symlink /dev/tty  to something ?
[04:31] <ShadowApex> ugh....
[04:31] <ShadowApex> I should have just did rmdir then mkdir
[04:31] <Jucato> ShadowApex: still no go?
[04:31] <ShadowApex> it's rebooting now
[04:32] <intelikey> errrr actually tty exists and is a char dev
[04:32] <intelikey> crw-rw-r-- 1 root root 5, 0 Oct  5 21:26 /dev/tty
[04:32] <ShadowApex> arrg
[04:32] <ShadowApex> nope
[04:32] <soulrider> !info ubuntu-minimal
[04:32] <ubotu> ubuntu-minimal: Minimal core of Ubuntu. In component main, is important. Version 0.120 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 40 kB
[04:33] <ShadowApex> Jucato: no go
[04:33] <Jucato> ShadowApex: darn.. :(
[04:33] <ShadowApex> Jucato: I made a new user and that worked
[04:33] <ShadowApex> Jucato: but I'd rather not have to redo all my settings
[04:33] <soulrider> !info kubuntu-artwork-splash
[04:33] <ubotu> Package kubuntu-artwork-splash does not exist in any distro I know
[04:33] <intelikey> ShadowApex what problem ?
[04:34] <ShadowApex> I (stupidly) typed in "kdm restart" into Konsole
[04:34] <Jucato> soulrider: probably kubuntu-artwork-usplash ?
[04:34] <ShadowApex> and now when I try nd log in
[04:34] <ShadowApex> it restarts kdm
[04:34] <ShadowApex> and goes back to the log-in
[04:36] <intelikey> ShadowApex as that user, in a console type                        sudo chown `whoami`:`groups | cut -d' ' -f1` -R ~
[04:37] <intelikey> or in unix terms own your home.
[04:37] <soulrider> ah yea Jucato
[04:37] <ShadowApex> ?
[04:37] <soulrider> !info kubuntu-artwork-uspash
[04:37] <ubotu> Package kubuntu-artwork-uspash does not exist in any distro I know
[04:38] <soulrider> !info kubuntu-artwork-usplash
[04:38] <ubotu> kubuntu-artwork-usplash: kubuntu artwork for usplash. In component main, is optional. Version 1:6.06-22 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 100 kB
[04:38] <soulrider> Jucato: for how long have you beein using kubuntu ?
[04:38] <andrivid> Well i would have gotten Quake, but it needs a P4, i only got a PIII
[04:38] <Jucato> soulrider: 10 months?
[04:38] <Jucato> why?
[04:39] <soulrider> just asking
[04:39] <Jucato> :)
[04:39] <Jucato> i'm just a 10-month old baby in Linux :)
[04:39] <soulrider> im a 3 month old baby :P
[04:39] <soulrider> still a fetus :P
[04:39] <Jucato> lol
[04:39] <fateisajester> how do i view my fps when i run glxgears. i dont get any output
[04:40] <soulrider> glxgears ?
[04:40] <soulrider> !info glxgears
[04:40] <ubotu> Package glxgears does not exist in any distro I know
[04:40] <intelikey> kids stop bragin' about your youth.   age will come upon you too....
[04:40] <ShadowApex> intelikey: ok, i did that and now it displays a "> "
[04:41] <intelikey> then you missed a quote mark somewhere.   hit ctrl+C
[04:41] <noiesmo> fateisajester, type glxgears in terminal I get this info 23878 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4756.692 FPS
[04:41] <ShadowApex> yeah, I missed the end ~
[04:41] <intelikey> >>> sudo chown `whoami`:`groups | cut -d' ' -f1` -R ~   <<<
[04:42] <ShadowApex> xP
[04:42] <fateisajester> how long do i have to run it before i get an output>
[04:42] <noiesmo> fateisajester, mine did in terminal after about 5 secs or so
[04:42] <intelikey> note front tick back tick  ` & '  must be as typed above to work.  ^
[04:43] <fateisajester> i have been running it for about 3 mins now
[04:43] <claydoh> type 'glxgears -printfps to get the fps output
[04:43] <fateisajester> thx
[04:43] <andrivid> Hey umm...I dont have Display in KControl...........
[04:44] <Jucato> woot claydoh's alive :)
[04:44] <claydoh> no I'm not ;)
[04:44] <Jucato> heh
[04:44] <flaccid> anybody know why my mp3s from frostwire open with mplayer
[04:44] <noiesmo> claydoh, fateisajester must be a dif version of glxgears mine doesnt like the printfps option
[04:45] <flaccid> .mp3 is associated with amarok in konqueror file associations
[04:45] <fateisajester> mine did
[04:45] <noiesmo> flaccid, Check frostwire settings
[04:45] <fateisajester> is 2500 decent?
[04:45] <intelikey> flaccid frostwire has it's own file ass.
[04:45] <claydoh> noiesmo: it has been that way in kubuntu for a while now
[04:45] <flaccid> noiesmo: only setting is use frostwire player or not
[04:45] <intelikey> maybe not a good place to abv.
[04:46] <LeeJunFan> !language > intelikey
[04:46] <LeeJunFan> lol!
[04:46] <flaccid> ah i see
[04:46] <flaccid> thanks noiesmo
[04:46] <noiesmo> claydoh, yeah no need for printfps option
[04:46] <noiesmo> flaccid, np
[04:46] <intelikey> LeeJunFan be nice.
[04:46] <ShadowApex> intelikey: ok, I entered that command. Now reboot?
[04:46] <LeeJunFan> I couldn't resist. sry
[04:46] <intelikey> no just try to login ShadowApex
[04:47] <ShadowApex> how do I get to the login window from the command line?
[04:47] <snook353> is there something comparable to gdesklets for kde?
[04:47] <claydoh> well i need tha option in both dapper and edgy
[04:47] <intelikey> alt+f7  ?
[04:47] <DaveQB> or sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[04:47] <claydoh> snook353: superkaramba
[04:47] <DaveQB> if not in X ShadowApex
[04:48] <snook353> ok ,thanks claydoh
[04:48] <intelikey> yeah if kdm is not already running  start it
[04:48] <DaveQB> yep  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[04:48] <ShadowApex> intelikey: KDM is running, but problem is still there
[04:48] <DaveQB> or sudo invoke.d kdm start
[04:49] <intelikey> ShadowApex ok
[04:49] <DaveQB> ShadowApex problem ?
[04:49] <intelikey> ShadowApex do this in the console.  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[04:49] <intelikey> ShadowApex then as the user in question, do.  startx   and watch for error messages.
[04:50] <intelikey> DaveQB he can no longer login graphicly
[04:50] <intelikey> DaveQB one user account affected.
[04:51] <intelikey> DaveQB so it's in user's home somewhere.
[04:51] <ShadowApex> intelikey: When I stop kdm it freezes
[04:51] <intelikey> ?
[04:51] <intelikey> what freezes ?
[04:51] <ShadowApex> it goes to the loading screen
[04:51] <ShadowApex> of Kubuntu
[04:51] <ShadowApex> and I can't do anything
[04:52] <intelikey> yeah  alt+f1
[04:52] <intelikey> yeah  ctrl+alt+f1
[04:52] <ShadowApex> ah
[04:52] <ShadowApex> xP
[04:52] <ShadowApex> <- newb
[04:53] <intelikey> yeah linux is handy that way.  multi-tty's by default
[04:53] <ShadowApex> alrighty... so now what?
[04:53] <intelikey> you can use alt+f[1-6]   for login tty 1-6
 ShadowApex then as the user in question, do.  startx   and watch
[04:53] <intelikey>             for error messages.
[04:54] <ShadowApex> ah
[04:54] <snook353> adept manager is just a front-end, just like synaptic, right?
[04:54] <ShadowApex> ty
[04:54] <Hawkwind> snook353: Yes
[04:54] <snook353> i can still use apt-get? hawkwind
[04:54] <snook353> ok, i get the idea
[04:54] <Hawkwind> snook353: Most certainly
[04:55] <snook353> hawk. thanks
[04:55] <Hawkwind> snook353: I don't trust nor rely on GUI package managers.  I only use the CLI version of the package manager
[04:55] <intelikey> also of note the login consoles are active even when X is running just have to use the ctrl key   ctrl+alt+f#
[04:55] <snook353> ok, thanks hawkwind
[04:56] <ShadowApex> initelikey: "Fatal Server error:
[04:56] <ShadowApex> Caught signal 11. Server aborting
[04:56] <ShadowApex> "
[04:57] <intelikey> hmmm   looks like no .xsession  maybe ?
[04:57] <ShadowApex> yeah
[04:58] <ShadowApex> well
[04:58] <ShadowApex> it says "xinit: connection to x server lost"
[04:58] <intelikey> or bad info in it.    i would sujest you    rm ~/.?? -i    and keep your .bash* and .profile
[04:59] <intelikey> it will remove interactavely  the files  named .somethin
[04:59] <ShadowApex> what is the ".??"
[04:59] <Admiral_Chicago> is there a sure fire way to wipe a HDD?
[05:00] <Admiral_Chicago> beside format...
[05:00] <kbee> Admiral_Chicago: so not even the Fbi  could read it
[05:00] <intelikey>    files starting with . are hiden from normal view  and  ?? matches any two chars
[05:00] <Admiral_Chicago> kbee: sure
[05:00] <intelikey> for a list you can     ls ~/.??
[05:00] <niroxx_> *uaaah good night
[05:00] <kbee> Admiral_Chicago: what is the problem before we attack the solution
[05:01] <intelikey> and as i said   rm -i ~/.??   is interactive  you will have to confirm each file.
[05:01] <Admiral_Chicago> kbee: no problem, i'm just curious
[05:02] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hd?
[05:02] <kbee> Admiral_Chicago: fdisk does a good job and follow it by mkfs for the particular slices/partitions
[05:02] <Admiral_Chicago> dd? is that a joke?
[05:02] <kbee> Admiral_Chicago:  dd will also do it quite handily
[05:02] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago man dd
[05:02] <kbee> Admiral_Chicago: not a joke
[05:02] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey: teh command is a joke from some ancient OS
[05:03] <ShadowApex> intelikey: I did the ls command and it listed 3 files: kstylerc, qt_plugins_3.3rc, qtrc
[05:03] <kbee> Admiral_Chicago: i use dd quite often
[05:03] <intelikey> ShadowApex only three ?  something is not defauly
[05:03] <intelikey> default even
[05:04] <ShadowApex> ugh...
[05:04] <intelikey> ShadowApex ooops  add *
[05:04] <intelikey> hehhe my bad.
[05:04] <ShadowApex> lol
[05:04] <ShadowApex> add * at the end?
[05:04] <intelikey> ShadowApex  ls ~/.??*
[05:04] <ShadowApex> kk =D
[05:05] <intelikey> sorry....   </sheepishly?
[05:05] <intelikey> >
[05:05] <ShadowApex> np
[05:05] <ShadowApex> do you think it would be easier if I just created a new user?
[05:05] <ShadowApex> and deleted the old user
[05:06] <ShadowApex> what files and settings are saved for the user?
[05:07] <ShadowApex> like, if I were to do this would I need to move any files? (i.e. /home/(user folder)
[05:07] <intelikey> ShadowApex /etc/skel/  has the starting home
[05:07] <ShadowApex> ?
[05:08] <noiesmo> ShadowApex, most settings are in hidden files for kde see ~/.kde/share
[05:08] <intelikey> if you delete everything in your home and copy /etc/skel/* to ~ you have a fresh user account.     and yes   ~/.kde   is most of the customization
[05:10] <intelikey> one can do all sorts of fancy home tweeking and remodeling but if you change user accounts be sure to setup root jr. so you can admin
[05:11] <intelikey> that is to say (assuming default *buntu)  make sure you are in the admin or adm or both groups.
[05:11] <intelikey> i don't play the root jr. game myself
[05:15] <intelikey> ShadowApex i still would first try   rm -i ~/.??*      and say no to bash* and profile    then try it.
[05:16] <intelikey> it wont get any dirs.  only the config files hiden in  your home
[05:17] <intelikey> shouldn't affect kde in any noticable way.
[05:17] <intelikey> and all affects should be a restoring of defaults
[05:19] <ShadowApex> ok, I'll try that out intelikey
[05:21] <intelikey> i wonder if kde is trying to restore the running "kdm restart"   if it is only fix will be to nuke the session.    maybe start in falesafe and then exit nornally to make a new session save  idk if that would work or not.
[05:21] <ShadowApex> so keep bash_history, etc?
[05:21] <intelikey> fale   hehhe  where did that come from....   failsafe
[05:22] <intelikey> keep all bash* yes
[05:22] <ShadowApex> k
[05:22] <intelikey> and profile
[05:22] <dme> Dr_willis, perhaps u remember a few days ago i had some questions about adding a new hard disk to my Kubuntu system; i finally got it working as I wish - however, there were 2 things I had to do that i'm wondering if it is normal to have to do them, or if i had to do them because I didn't do something correctly; 1) once i had the new hard drive in /etc/fstab, to get it to mount automatically at each boot, i had to explicitly state the 'auto' opti
[05:22] <dme> option, and yet they all mount automatically at boot. Does this seem normal?
[05:24] <Admiral_Chicago> dme: yes
[05:24] <dme> Dr_willis: the 2nd thing is that once i got the new hard disk mounting automatically, i had to chmod it's permissions, because they defaulted to only root having the permission to write; is that normal?
[05:24] <Admiral_Chicago> well you need the auto option actually
[05:24] <dme> thank you, Admiral_Chicago
[05:24] <Admiral_Chicago> dme: use the user option
[05:24] <intelikey> auto or defaults
[05:24] <Admiral_Chicago> i wrote a walk through on fstab today...
[05:24] <dme> i tried that - perhaps i typed in in wrong
[05:26] <dme> another question: if i create a dir and then chmod it's permissions to allow user/group writes, is there a way to make it so that any/all subdirs to that dir, when created, automatically have user/group write permission? (perhaps there is some reading somewhere i need to do?)
[05:26] <intelikey> interesting...  this   >>> /dev/hdb /var/cache/apt/archives ext2 nosuid 0 0  <<< mounts automaticly.  so no that's not normal dme.
[05:26] <Admiral_Chicago> man chmod
[05:26] <Admiral_Chicago> in the konsole to learn more about a command
[05:26] <dme> i have
[05:26] <Admiral_Chicago> but i don't know the answer
[05:27] <dme> thank yo tho
[05:27] <dme> thank you* tho
[05:27] <ShadowApex> intelikey: didn't work
[05:27] <dme> intelikey, is the hdb a harddisk or a cd or other?
[05:28] <neddiW> hi to all
[05:28] <neddiW> is the Xorg update error fixed in kubuntu?
[05:28] <ShadowApex> dang.... such a horrible problem... and just a few words...
[05:28] <Admiral_Chicago> dme: hard drive
[05:29] <Swiffffft> I need help 8-(
[05:29] <intelikey> dme it's not a chmod thing.  it's a   ahhh i forgot....
[05:29] <intelikey> dme hard drive
[05:30] <intelikey> some setting ..... environment verable   set in  profile....    controls what permissions you make new dirs with
[05:30] <Swiffffft> I have kubuntu 6.06 cd I made from iso but my hardware is: radeon saphire x800gto video card... p4 prescott x86T ( Socket T )
[05:30] <intelikey> i hate it when i can't think
[05:30] <ShadowApex> intelikey: I did the rm -i ~/.??* command and the problem is still there...
[05:30] <Swiffffft> when I try to boot the screen is black
[05:30] <Swiffffft> I tryed safe vid mode
[05:30] <Swiffffft> and default and
[05:31] <Swiffffft> ati
[05:31] <dme> the thing i can't figure out is, if the harddisk hdc (my just-added harddisk) had been connected at the time i installed Kubuntu, would fstab have included the 'auto' option; that is, how does mount, when reading fstab, tell the difference between harddisks that existed at Kubuntu install, and ones that have been added; the only possible answer i can think of is that during install, fstab WOULD have been created with the 'auto' option for all har
[05:31] <Swiffffft> what can I do to get it started?????
[05:31] <neddiW> is the Xorg update error fixed in kubuntu?
[05:31] <Swiffffft> is the kubuntu dvd complete??
[05:31] <Swiffffft> more drivers then cd??
[05:32] <Healot> more packages; the kernel modules are the same
[05:32] <Admiral_Chicago> neddiW: that happend a long time ago iirc and that was fixed the next day
[05:32] <intelikey> ShadowApex boot to safe mode and try saving the session and exit.   i think kde is trying to restore the "crashed" session  which is running the kill on it.
[05:32] <ShadowApex> failsafe mode?
[05:33] <Swiffffft> why do I see a glowing black screen when booting?
[05:33] <neddiW> Admiral_Chicago, oh ok many thanks!
[05:34] <Swiffffft> NeddiW how can I get kubuntu 6.06 cd to boot?
[05:34] <Healot> !boot
[05:34] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[05:34] <Swiffffft> o and I have sata harddrive
[05:35] <Swiffffft> 8-o
[05:35] <intelikey> dme the env setting for the permissions is set in your .bashrc file
[05:35] <intelikey> # the default umask is set in /etc/login.defs
[05:35] <intelikey> #umask 022
[05:36] <intelikey> the umask  sets all newly created inode perms as  777 - $umask     so in that default example its  755
[05:37] <Dr_willis> dme,  i make a directory on the hard drive then  chown/chmod THAT directory for the user to use. NOT the mount point of the hard drive
[05:37] <ShadowApex> intelikey: how do I save the session? When I tried to log in normally (after trying to save the session in failsafe mode) the screen froze and I needed to restart
[05:37] <dme> Dr_willis, intelikely, thank you, that is good info;
[05:37] <Swiffffft>  abit gd8 motherboard
[05:37] <Swiffffft> Swiffffft radeon saphire x800gto video card
[05:37] <Swiffffft> Swiffffft 1gb pc3200 memory
[05:37] <Swiffffft> Swiffffft ?
[05:37] <Swiffffft> Swiffffft cpu is p4 prescott x86T (socket T)
[05:38] <Swiffffft> when I try to start kubuntu all I see is a glowing black screen 8-o
[05:38] <Swiffffft> I tryed most of the boot options
[05:38] <Healot> x800gto? use VESA driver then
[05:38] <Swiffffft> vesa??
[05:38] <Healot> next dl the Ati binary driver at ATi
[05:39] <Swiffffft> livecd xdrv=vesa??
[05:39] <Healot> since the Xorg driver supports up to x200 or x300 i think
[05:39] <Swiffffft> it keeps booting to hd when I type that
[05:39] <intelikey> ShadowApex i have never broke kde in exactly the way you just did  heheh    lets get radical and fix it here.      do this in that users console    tar -cjf backup.tbz ~/.kde  && rm -rf ~/.kde        then try it.
[05:39] <Healot> oh live CD, stick to VESA, Swiffffft : boot to text mode instead
[05:39] <Swiffffft> how I type vesa???
[05:39] <urli> are all of you urli users?
[05:39] <Swiffffft> text mode lmao
[05:40] <dme> Dr_willis, i have another question, if u will; I use a KVM; when i boot Kubuntu, and it the box that is KVM selected, all is fine; however, if i have my Windows box selected and boot the Kubuntu box, it boots to 460x600, and it cannot be increased without restarting X window manager; i've examined the video settings file, and it IS set to 1000x1280 as default; any idea how to get X to realized that even tho no monitor is attached, my video card c
[05:40] <ShadowApex> intelikey: xP k, I'll try that
[05:40] <kbee> !repo > kbee
[05:40] <Healot> Swiffffft, it is the PCI-e card, way too advanced for Xorg free driver
[05:40] <ShadowApex> man, there needs to be a warning somewhere
[05:40] <Swiffffft> healot I cant do anything in text mode
[05:40] <ShadowApex> NEVER type in kdm restart in Konsole
[05:40] <ShadowApex> lol
[05:40] <Healot> Swiffffft, type? fufufu
[05:41] <Swiffffft> fufufu???
[05:41] <Swiffffft> whats that?
[05:41] <Swiffffft> Healot?
[05:41] <Healot> me laugh :)
[05:42] <intelikey> ShadowApex you will have to start yourself a list of "never do this"'s   :)
[05:42] <urli> im new in linux and was wandering abou the compatibility of computer games with linux, they have to specify it, right?
[05:42] <Healot> Swiffffft, do you have  copy of knoppix right?
[05:42] <Swiffffft> ya
[05:42] <ShadowApex> lol
[05:42] <Healot> boot from knoppix, the default boot option
[05:42] <Swiffffft> im on mepis watching the little fish hahaha
[05:42] <cpk2> urli: even if they dont support linux you can still play them on linux
[05:43] <dme> FreddyM, intelikely, any idea how to fix that kvm-boot-resolution problem?
[05:43] <Swiffffft> ok then
[05:43] <Healot> let's see whether the card is supported by Xorg?
[05:43] <Swiffffft> k brb
[05:43] <FreddyM> dme: i don't really know anything about KDMs except what they are
[05:43] <Healot> knoppix is way better at autodetecting stuff
[05:43] <intelikey>  kvm-boot-resolution  problem?  ???
[05:44] <Dr_willis> dme,  when X starts up- its proberly quering the monitor to see what it can display..
[05:44] <dme> kvm - KeyboardVideoMouse - lets you use just one keyboard, video, mouse for multiple computers - special keystroke combo switches between boxes to select which one you interact with
[05:44] <Dr_willis> theres some way to disable that.. and force it to use other settings I guess.. but not sure about oit.
[05:44] <dme> Dr_willis: that is what i think
[05:44] <dme> ok
[05:45] <dme> any idea how to point me in the right directions?
[05:45] <dme> direction*
[05:45] <ShadowApex> intelikey: works now! ^_^
[05:45] <pavlos> will kubuntu use both cpu on a dual server I want to install it?
[05:45] <intelikey> dme i can't offer anything but a listening ear on that.... i'm network illiterate
[05:45] <dme> Dr_willis, did u see my earlier comments regarding how my new harddisk ?
[05:45] <FreddyM> i know what a KDM is, even used a few. i just don't think X can configure to many different monitors
[05:46] <FreddyM> X does a real good job of auto recognizing hardware, but it also needs reconfiguring
[05:46] <intelikey> ShadowApex and you know how to reset your "kde" if needed in the future.
[05:46] <ShadowApex> yeah, thank you so much
[05:46] <urli> thanks cpk2, but how do i open windows exe files?,
[05:46] <dme> sounds like reading up on X is where i start; thanks FreddyM
[05:46] <ShadowApex> looks like it reset all the settings?
[05:46] <intelikey> ShadowApex yes  all.
[05:47] <ShadowApex> what about installed files, etc.
[05:47] <intelikey> you can open the backup.tbz and see if anything you need is in there.    kde should not have installed anything in it's confdir
[05:47] <dme> this has been a productive, and gratefully, quick session; thanks Dr_willis, FreddyM, intelikely; bye
[05:48] <ShadowApex> thanks, this will work
[05:48] <urli> how can i open a windows exe file? an autorun for example?
[05:48] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. ive never seen that behaivor dme - and i boot up mopst of my machines with the monitor Off.. :P lol.
[05:48] <Dr_willis> urli,  by  open you mean . RUN ?
[05:48] <urli> right
[05:48] <Healot> urli, you need to drink some WINE :)
[05:48] <Dr_willis> !wine
[05:48] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:48] <intelikey> urli wine autorun.exe
[05:49] <intelikey> but use the full path.
[05:49] <urli> thanks a lot, man
[05:49] <Dr_willis> urli,  you do realize that linux is NOT windows.. :P and theres no guarentees as to how well a windows app can be made to run with wine or cedega. :)
[05:49] <ShadowApex> well I'm going to get going, thanks for all your help intelikey. I would have never found a solution without you ;D
[05:49] <intelikey> ShadowApex very welcome
[05:50] <intelikey> urli and there are some thing that wine just can't run...
[05:51] <Healot> urli, you can get yourself drunk though
[05:51] <intelikey> i often think that M$ purposely does that....
[05:51] <urli> jajajaaj
[05:51] <urli> guys, wich of all the software do i need?
[05:51] <urli> sorry for the english, but im from argentina
[05:51] <intelikey> need ?
[05:52] <urli> to run the autorun program
[05:52] <intelikey> sudo apt-get install wine
[05:52] <urli> i mean, there are lots of downloads, not only wine
[05:53] <urli> sorry but im a litthle lost with linux
[05:54] <knoppix_> Linux Knoppix 2.4.27 #2 SMP Mo Aug 9 00:39:37 CEST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux  8-P
[05:54] <knoppix_> it works
[05:54] <unix_infidel> urli: if you feel more comfortable in your native language.
[05:54] <unix_infidel> !ubuntu-es
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-es - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:54] <unix_infidel> !es
[05:54] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:54] <Swifffft> its me
[05:54] <Swifffft> Healot
[05:54] <Healot> how was the knoppix session?
[05:55] <urli> thanks a lot guys
[05:55] <urli> cheers
[05:55] <intelikey> urli what are you wanting to install ?   most of the time it's better to look for an open-sourse alternative to the M$ krap
[05:55] <Swifffft> im in it hahahah
[05:55] <Swifffft> still
[05:55] <Swifffft> knoppix@ttyp0[knoppix] $ uname -a
[05:55] <Swifffft> Linux Knoppix 2.4.27 #2 SMP Mo Aug 9 00:39:37 CEST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:55] <Swifffft> knoppix@ttyp0[knoppix] $
[05:55] <Healot> Swifffft, cat me the driver of your Knoppix Xorg settings
[05:55] <Swifffft> I found a tutorial on installing unreal tournament 2004 in mepis...
[05:56] <Swifffft> ? how
[05:56] <Healot> i have a x300 here, and knoppix Xorg works works
[05:56] <Swifffft> ..http://www.mepisguides.com/ut2k4/ut2k4.html
[05:56] <urli> sorry, no response in the sapnish room, im trying to install a game
[05:56] <Healot> Swifffft, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | cat Driver
[05:56] <Swifffft> cat you the driver how
[05:56] <Healot> Swifffft, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[05:56] <Healot> sorry
[05:57] <Swifffft> to many cats hahaha 8-P
[05:57] <intelikey> urli better check cedega out
[05:57] <intelikey> made for games    transgamming.org  or something like that.
[05:57] <Swifffft> no such file or directory...
[05:57] <intelikey> !cedega
[05:57] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[05:58] <intelikey> urli    see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[05:58] <intelikey> si
[06:00] <urli> but cedega must be purchased, right?
[06:00] <intelikey> view the link ^
[06:00] <intelikey> read the page
[06:01] <unix_infidel> anyone here made their own cantenna before with a pringles can?
[06:02] <intelikey> pvc pipe and renolds wrap
[06:02] <Dr_willis> I just run cables. :P
[06:03] <unix_infidel> thinking about getting some electrochemically favorable compounds.
[06:03] <unix_infidel> and putting them inside a can.
[06:03] <unix_infidel> HAHAH, so much for running cables, seems to be working well :)
[06:03] <intelikey> gooday
[06:09] <cpk2> urli: what game do you want to install?
[06:10] <urli> football manager 2005
[06:10] <Healot> cedega
[06:11] <urli> yes, but i just cant download it
[06:11] <Healot> compatibility list ;
[06:11] <Healot> urli, stay legal :)
[06:11] <urli> so i have to buy cedega?
[06:12] <Healot> urli, buy a retail copy of Windows XP :)
[06:12] <Healot> save you the technical details
[06:12] <cpk2> urli: that works with wine
[06:12] <urli> ok, but i have to buy wine, right?
[06:12] <cpk2> urli: wine is free
[06:13] <Hawkwind> !wine
[06:13] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:13] <cpk2> urli: this link will help you get wine installed http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[06:14] <cpk2> urli: you will need to get a cracked exe to bypass the copy protection though
[06:15] <cpk2> urli: although I recommend trying to see if it runs without a cracked exe first =)
[06:15] <urli> right, im a little lost guys but thanks for the help
[06:18] <ojintoad> anyone wanna confirm a minor frustration I'm having with kubuntu and firefox?
[06:18] <cpk2> well i dont really want to be frustated too...
[06:18] <ojintoad> hopefully you wont be :-)
[06:19] <ojintoad> when i click on the firefox icon to open a new window from the panel, it manages to do so, but an extra firefox instance flashes in the taskbar for a few seconds and then dies away.
[06:19] <ojintoad> doesn't seem to bug anything but i'm just wondering if anyone else experiences it.
[06:20] <ojintoad> i should point out that firefox is running allready when i click the icon.
[06:21] <fdoving> ojintoad: try to start firefox from konsole (kmenu -> system -> konsole) with the command 'firefox', that way you might get some usefull output in the konsole.. on why it's dying.
[06:22] <fdoving> i really have to go to work now, hope it helps you on the way :)
[06:22] <fdoving> bye.
[06:22] <ojintoad> merci.  enjoy work.  that actually opens an entire new instance of firefox with a nice little <2> in the titlebar.
[06:26] <moparisthebest> is there a way to connect via ssh through a proxy?
[06:33] <trappist> moparisthebest: yes, but off the top of my head I couldn't tell you how.  you want an ssh tunneller.
[06:33] <Brydenn33> i have a question
[06:33] <moparisthebest> thanks trappist
[06:33] <poseidon> Is there some sort of auto-update that will run as a service?
[06:34] <Brydenn33> if i installed kubuntu on a drive and then made it a master with a Windows XP drive as a slave... how do i edit grub to load to windows?
[06:34] <trappist> poseidon: it wouldn't be to hard to set it up as like a nightly cron job
[06:35] <Brydenn33> any of you losers still awake?
[06:36] <trappist> Brydenn33: that'll probably help your cause
[06:36] <Brydenn33> lol i know
[06:36] <Brydenn33> my f'n eye hurts
[06:36] <Brydenn33> got kicked in the face
[06:36] <trappist> I wonder why
[06:36] <Brydenn33> oh it was just in practice
[06:36] <ojintoad> Brydenn33: I think that a google search should help you on that one.
[06:36] <Brydenn33> (mixed martial arts) for those of you that dont know
[06:36] <MotorCityMadMan> can you say chainloader
[06:37] <ojintoad> It's a pretty frequent question.
[06:37] <Brydenn33> ojintoad: die
[06:37] <Brydenn33> wasnt talking to you
[06:43] <Healot> !language
[06:43] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:43] <Healot> is that it? damn
[06:46] <omar> Hi gusy How can I munt a diskette
[06:46] <omar> Hi guys How can I munt a diskette
[06:46] <flaccid> !floppy
[06:46] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[06:50] <omar> I did that but nothing happened
[06:50] <omar> the web ask me to change a file, and I did
[06:55] <kane_> hey, is there a way to get remove a package and none of the "unrequried packages" that apt-get talks about?
[07:00] <rcmn> i have a pbm to read dvd with every players xine/mplayer/vlc, i tried /dev/dvd ;/dev/hdc ;/dev/cdrom.I can mount unmount with user and see files on any dvd.But i can't play it.
[07:07] <Healot> rcmn, which dev is your DVD rom?
[07:11] <charlie5> hi all
[07:12] <rcmn> dev/hdc
[07:12] <charlie5> does anyone use a netcomm ADSL2 + Router modem for broadband ?
 dev/hdc
[07:13] <charlie5> i'm having enormous trouble getting a bband connection
[07:14] <charlie5> i have a modem log here ... http://rafb.net/paste/results/6Xl3o733.html ... is there anything obviously wrong ... i have trouble following it ...
[07:15] <rcmn> if i launch kmplayer from prompt it won't complain but just stop after check the region of the DVD
[07:20] <fateisajester> my wife used to use a program on windows called avatar palace. i have found a linux version called linpal but all i can get is the source. i have heard that you can mess up your system if you install things from source. is that true
[07:23] <rcmn> Kaffeine using xine will error out with missing plugin MRL dvd:/
[07:23] <Admiral_Chicago> rcmn: did you try vlc?
[07:23] <rcmn> yup
[07:23] <Admiral_Chicago> fateisajester: kind of
[07:24] <Admiral_Chicago> but for one program, no
[07:24] <Admiral_Chicago> if you have a ton of dependency issues and change your libraries a lot, that could mess up your system
[07:24] <rcmn> [00000270]  main input error: no suitable access module for `dvd://'
[07:24] <fateisajester> i think i get it
[07:25] <rcmn> arg i need a module for dvd
[07:25] <rcmn> to access dvd
[07:25] <fateisajester> i thought i had all of my repositories updated but i cant find it on synaptic
[07:25] <rcmn> ok i guees that the deal module for dvd
[07:27] <Admiral_Chicago> fateisajester: if you compile from source, it is ./configure && make && sudo make install
[07:28] <fateisajester> thx
[07:29] <fateisajester> does it matter where i ectract the files to?
[07:29] <rcmn> does anyone know witch module is it refering too ? do i have to modprob
[07:29] <rcmn> e
[07:29] <Admiral_Chicago> fateisajester: no
[07:29] <rcmn> i'm using the kernel-k7
[07:29] <fateisajester> ok
[07:29] <Admiral_Chicago> make it to the desktop because it's easier that way
[07:32] <ironfroggy> what might cause bad flickering on every screen rendering operation?
[07:32] <ironfroggy> switching windows, scrolling pages, animations and videos: everything causes a terrible flicker. i can actually watch the lines being updated one by one.
[07:34] <Admiral_Chicago> ironfroggy: probably your video driver
[07:34] <fateisajester> this is waht i get from make....bash: make: command not found
[07:35] <kranjan> hi
[07:35] <ironfroggy> Admiral_Chicago: never had trouble with it on any other distribution and Kubuntu had a more recent version than what i was using before.
[07:36] <Admiral_Chicago> ironfroggy: card? what is your driver+
[07:36] <ironfroggy> intel i810
[07:37] <ironfroggy> yes, i know its crappy, but i also no i can get performance out of it that doesnt make the system unsuitable even to just check my email and read blogs.
[07:37] <Admiral_Chicago> ironfroggy: try a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:37] <Admiral_Chicago> that MAY help
[07:37] <ironfroggy> ok
[07:38] <Admiral_Chicago> you're the second person with intel problems in the last 15 minutes
[07:38] <distantb> i am having trouble installing mozilla , anyone have a minute?
[07:38] <ghostshadow189> hi all , i've a problem that i cant listen to music
[07:38] <ghostshadow189> i installed juK and Noatun but both of them doesnt work . with juK , it couldnt play music . with Noatun , when it started it warned me : "Connecting/starting aRTs sound server failed . Make sure that artd is configured properly ."
[07:38] <ghostshadow189> when boot i can hear sound , both sound when i type password and sound when ubuntu load and ofcourse when i shutdown comp .
[07:38] <ghostshadow189> in sound manger i saw that there're 3 devices :
[07:38] <ghostshadow189> file -> change device -> 0: HDA ATI SB (Alxar Mixer) - 1: DellSound blaster live (Alxar Mixer) - 2: Realtek ALC883 (OSS Mixer) . Soi'm using Realtek .
[07:38] <ghostshadow189> when i use a music cd , i can listen to it's music
[07:39] <rod> hi, is there a way i can allow a normal user to bind to port 80 with kubuntu?
[07:39] <ghostshadow189> but i cant listen to music files
[07:39] <rcmn> there is many possibility
[07:39] <fateisajester> why cant i use the make command
[07:39] <fateisajester> i did sudo
first make just using 1 audio client when testing
[07:40] <Admiral_Chicago> distantb: what is the problem
[07:40] <ghostshadow189> yes like i said , i've tried juK and Noatun
[07:41] <Admiral_Chicago> fateisajester: do you have build-essenital installed
can u manually choose what hardware u sue
[07:41] <rcmn> use
[07:41] <fateisajester> ok
[07:41] <ghostshadow189> Realtek ALC883
[07:41] <rcmn> i suppose if u hear the sound
[07:41] <ghostshadow189> like i said
[07:42] <rcmn> ok so u're speaker are connected to the realtek
[07:42] <rcmn> for sure
[07:42] <ghostshadow189>  in sound manger i saw that there're 3 devices :
[07:42] <ghostshadow189> file -> change device -> 0: HDA ATI SB (Alxar Mixer) - 1: DellSound blaster live (Alxar Mixer) - 2: Realtek ALC883 (OSS Mixer) . Soi'm using Realtek .
[07:42] <ghostshadow189> yes
[07:42] <rcmn> then it means kde use the realtek since u can here the login sound right
[07:43] <ghostshadow189> yes , i also can listen to music from cd
[07:43] <rcmn> oss
[07:43] <ghostshadow189> yes it's oss mixer
[07:43] <rcmn> alsa oss
[07:43] <rcmn> hum and atun is looking for alsa
[07:43] <ghostshadow189> i installed juK and Noatun but both of them doesnt work . with juK , it couldnt play music . with Noatun , when it started it warned me : "Connecting/starting aRTs sound server failed . Make sure that artd is configured properly ."
[07:44] <rcmn> let me look at noatun
[07:44] <ironfroggy> i got an error running that dpkg-reconfigure command
[07:45] <rcmn> do u have kaffeine by any chance
[07:45] <distantb> admiral i dont know where to begin
[07:45] <ironfroggy> 'shared/defualt-x-server not set. Aborting'
[07:45] <ironfroggy> what can i do about that?
[07:45] <ghostshadow189> what's kaffeine ?
i mean do u have to use noatun or juk
[07:45] <ghostshadow189> yes
[07:45] <distantb> whats an easy way to install the  firefox
[07:46] <ghostshadow189> like i said , i try both of them
[07:46] <ghostshadow189>  installed juK and Noatun but both of them doesnt work . with juK , it couldnt play music . with Noatun , when it started it warned me : "Connecting/starting aRTs sound server failed . Make sure that artd is configured properly ."
[07:46] <rcmn> ok i think it's just a configuration thing so it's better to pick the software u want to use
[07:46] <rcmn> then we go from there
[07:47] <ghostshadow189> what's software ?
well for audio noatun is not great
[07:47] <Admiral_Chicago> ghostshadow189: its a video player
[07:47] <Admiral_Chicago> also, i don't think anyone has the answer to you question, maybe try the forums.
[07:47] <ghostshadow189> oh i've just read ubuntu's help , must i install multimedia codecs ?
[07:48] <rcmn> <ghostshadowno
[07:48] <fateisajester> Admiral_Chicago: will you come to #flood real quick please?
[07:48] <Admiral_Chicago> fateisajester: yes
[07:48] <ghostshadow189> oh :( , so what must i do now ?
 ok installing codecs is important too
[07:49] <ghostshadow189> ok i'll try
[07:49] <Admiral_Chicago> ghostshadow189: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[07:49] <ghostshadow189> ok thanx , i'll try
 but he doesn't have arts for noatun
[07:50] <rcmn> he better go with amarok
[07:50] <rcmn> to play music
[07:50] <ghostshadow189>  sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[07:50] <rcmn> of any xine base
[07:50] <ghostshadow189> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:50] <ghostshadow189> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:50] <distantb> http://www.opensound.com/download.cgi
[07:50] <distantb> which driver should i download
[07:50] <ghostshadow189> i got these erors
[07:51] <rcmn> close adept
[07:51] <Admiral_Chicago> ghostshadow189: do you have adept or synaptic open?
[07:51] <royjorolan> check if u open the Add/Remove Applications
[07:51] <ghostshadow189> oh , how to close adept :(
[07:51] <royjorolan> u should close it
[07:51] <ghostshadow189> and what's adept ?
[07:51] <rcmn> close all u're application
[07:52] <royjorolan> thats the Add/Remove Programs in Windoze
[07:52] <rcmn> reboot
[07:52] <rcmn> lol
[07:52] <ghostshadow189> ah :D , ok
[07:52] <ghostshadow189> i closeed :D
[07:52] <rcmn> cool
[07:52] <ghostshadow189> ok done
[07:52] <rcmn> well try to use Amarok
[07:53] <rcmn> Multimedia/amarok
[07:53] <rcmn> in the menu
[07:53] <ghostshadow189> oh , i'll install amarok
[07:53] <rcmn> it's to play audio
do you see it ?
[07:54] <distantb> i am trying to get an updated driver for soundcard , http://www.opensound.com/download.cgi which one should i get
[07:55] <royjorolan> how can i browse my local network?
[07:55] <ghostshadow189> no
[07:55] <ghostshadow189> i'm installing amarok
[07:55] <rcmn> in the menu do you see multimedia ?
[07:55] <rcmn> ok
[07:55] <Whiz2> I'm having troubles formatting to different filesystem, and remounting drives (with automount enabled). Can someone help me?
[07:55] <rcmn> but amarok should come by default what version are u using ?
[07:56] <ghostshadow189> i'm using 6
[07:56] <rcmn> versin of kubuntu ?
[07:56] <Admiral_Chicago> Whiz2: paste your fstab please
[07:56] <Admiral_Chicago> err actually fdisk -l
[07:56] <Whiz2> uhhh... I can't. this is a windows system I'm using to get help
[07:56] <ghostshadow189> oh i'm using ubuntu , but in ubuntu , they're busy now :D
[07:56] <royjorolan> umount it frist
[07:56] <rcmn> i see
[07:57] <Whiz2> they are already umounted
[07:57] <rcmn> ok should work
[07:57] <royjorolan> Whiz2> fdisk -l
[07:57] <Whiz2> hang lemme see if I can access them as vfat if they are mounted...
[07:57] <Admiral_Chicago> Whiz2: maybe you can email my team when you get on Linux, our page is chi.ubuntu-us.org
[07:57] <Admiral_Chicago> wait, are you on linux or not?
is it done ?
[07:58] <Whiz2> the linuxbox is connected to the net... hang on lemme get in here with that one
[07:58] <Whiz2> brb
[07:58] <ghostshadow189> oh the net connection is slowly now :D
[07:58] <ghostshadow189> wait me just a minute :D
i bet it will download all kde related pkg
darn
[07:58] <royjorolan> local area> SYSTEM MEnu-Local Places..
[07:58] <rcmn> u should of say it
[07:58] <royjorolan> err. REmote Places
[07:59] <rcmn> we could use a gnome related application
what amarok did u install ?
[08:02] <rcmn> amarok-xine i hope
 any idea on my dvd:// pbm
[08:03] <Admiral_Chicago> rcmn: repeat it please
[08:04] <rcmn> vlc /kaffein complain about a module for dvd:// so my guess is a module for the kernel
[08:04] <rcmn> i change from 386 to k7
[08:05] <Admiral_Chicago> rcmn: do you have AMD
[08:05] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[08:05] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[08:05] <rcmn> yep
[08:05] <Healot> did that? rcmn ?
[08:06] <ghostshadow189> rcmn : i still cant play music with amaroK
[08:06] <rcmn> ok did u install amarok-xine ?
[08:07] <ghostshadow189> i dont exactly , i just install amaroK from Add/Remove
[08:07] <rcmn> close add remove
[08:07] <ghostshadow189> yes , i closed it
[08:07] <rcmn> in the promt sudo apt-get install amarok-xine
[08:07] <ghostshadow189> and then run amaroK
[08:07] <Admiral_Chicago> rcmn: i have no idea
[08:08] <rcmn> i have  <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: installed
[08:08] <Admiral_Chicago> !forums > rcmn
[08:08] <ghostshadow189> rcmn :   sudo apt-get install amarok-xine
[08:08] <ghostshadow189> Password:
[08:08] <ghostshadow189> Reading package lists... Done
[08:08] <ghostshadow189> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:08] <ghostshadow189> amarok-xine is already the newest version.
[08:08] <ghostshadow189> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 32 not upgraded.
[08:08] <ghostshadow189> so i mean i installed correctly ?
[08:08] <rcmn> y
[08:09] <ghostshadow189> but it still dont play
[08:09] <ghostshadow189> i open a .mp3 file , but it dont run
[08:10] <Admiral_Chicago> ghostshadow189: run alsamixer in konsole
[08:10] <Admiral_Chicago> might be a volume control issue
[08:10] <rcmn> try the file Amarok 1.4 welcome
[08:10] <rcmn> in the Files
[08:10] <rcmn> tab on the left
[08:10] <whiz2> ok now I'm in Linux
[08:11] <rcmn> it's an ogg
[08:11] <ghostshadow189> Admiral_Chicago ; i ran
[08:11] <Admiral_Chicago> and are the bars all the way up?
[08:11] <Admiral_Chicago> or is anything muted?
[08:11] <rcmn> he has 3 sound card
[08:12] <Admiral_Chicago> that may be the problem
[08:12] <ghostshadow189> yes , they way up
[08:12] <Admiral_Chicago> you can post on the forums...
[08:12] <ghostshadow189> PCM , Front ....
[08:12] <Admiral_Chicago> i really can't answer all your question, i don't know that much
[08:12] <ghostshadow189> i posted http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=272261
[08:12] <Admiral_Chicago> the forums has great support
[08:14] <whiz2> ok I'm back, and I need assistance with my previous question... I'm having problems formatting drives to vfat, then mounting them (with automount enabled)
[08:15] <ghostshadow189> what's ur prob , whiz2 ?
[08:15] <whiz2> the problem is that I dunno if I'm even doing any of this right, because I'll format them, then mount them, then reboot, and they are notlonger mounted
[08:16] <whiz2> I was just inhere a few mins ago using a Win32 system... I'm in linux now
[08:17] <royjorolan> r u using ntfs?
[08:18] <whiz2> that's the previous filesystem. I'm trying to make them vfat (fat32) now
[08:18] <jack_> how to add a menu entry by hand? kmenuedit crash with edgy
[08:18] <ranjan> i have an HP Pavilion dv5000us laptop, should i get edgy beta?
[08:19] <whiz2> the original filesystem I was using was NTFS, but I'm trying to change it to FAT32
[08:22] <whiz2> can someone help me?
[08:22] <Torched> yes
[08:22] <Torched> his name is Dr Feldman
[08:22] <Torched> he's a special kind of 'talking' doctor
[08:22] <ghostshadow189> sure , i can change ur ntfs to fat32
[08:22] <Torched> dude, i can change his windows theme to classic
[08:23] <whiz2> I can do that too, but in Linux, I dunno anything about formatting...
[08:23] <ghostshadow189> fdisk
[08:23] <ghostshadow189> or cfdisk
[08:23] <Torched> did you want to keep the information on the partition?
[08:23] <ZeeToo> hello] 
[08:24] <whiz2> according to fdisk, the drives are already set for W95 FAT32 (LBA), but when I go to format them, then mount them, they don't stay mounted after reboot
[08:24] <Torched> no thanks ZeeToo
[08:24] <whiz2> No
[08:24] <whiz2> I want it gone
[08:24] <ZeeToo> anyone can tell me how can i use oidentd thingie, when i connect to x-chat it changes automatically my ident, this is my first question and my second one is how can I remove ~ (identd) from whois ?
[08:24] <whiz2> and I dunno if the format even worked right
[08:25] <kraut> moin
[08:25] <ZeeToo> anyone can help me please ?
[08:26] <ghostshadow189> whiz2 : try fdisk or cfdisk in termianl
[08:26] <Ademan> my printer pushes everything over to one side and stuff gets cut off, whats the deal?
[08:26] <whiz2> cfdisk says hdb1 primary W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[08:26] <Torched> print margins are too big Ademan
[08:27] <whiz2> that's what I want, but it doesn't stay mounted.
[08:27] <Ademan> Torched: how would I change that?
[08:27] <Torched> got a screwdriver handy?
[08:27] <Ademan> Torched: heh
[08:27] <Ademan> or were you serious?
[08:27] <Torched> i was serious
[08:28] <Ademan> there's no command line parameter or something?
[08:28] <ghostshadow189> whiz2 ; so it's the 2nd hdd ? u're using linux on what hdd ?
[08:28] <Torched> to make a screwdriver?
[08:28] <Torched> no
[08:28] <Ademan> ...
[08:28] <Ademan> lol
[08:28] <Torched> they're computers not matter machines
[08:28] <whiz2> ok I rewrote the partition table again for fat32... now how do I format the partition?
[08:28] <Ademan> to offset what's being printed
[08:28] <Torched> no clue
[08:29] <Torched> i usually just jam a screwdriver in there
[08:29] <Ademan> this problem doesnt exist when printing from the same machine on the same printer on windows, so I would hope it could be resolved through software
[08:29] <whiz2> if that's the case Ademan, it should be a software issue
[08:29] <Ademan> whiz2: yeah, there's no "offset" parameter for print is there?
[08:30] <whiz2> not sure... I don't even have a printer for this machine
[08:31] <marcondes> TESTE
[08:31] <marcondes> RS
[08:31] <marcondes> TESTE
[08:31] <Ademan> whiz2: neither do I, this is for my kubuntu box in the kitchen
[08:31] <Ademan> i'm on ubuntu right now :-p
[08:32] <marcondes> whatta hell?
[08:32] <whiz2> Ademan: the only machines I have with printers in this house are windows 9X/XP systems lol
[08:33] <marcondes> ???????
[08:33] <marcondes> i'm learning this
[08:34] <marcondes> how to send a  message to somebody?
[08:34] <whiz2> we are reading your mesages
[08:34] <whiz2> butto send to a person in the list to your right, right click thier name in the list, and choose "Send single message"
[08:36] <marcondes> ok
[08:36] <marcondes> i understand
[08:36] <Ademan>  /msg somebody hello this is my message
[08:36] <whiz2> or you could do that lol
[08:36] <marcondes> let me check
[08:36] <Jucato> but you would need to be registered to do that
[08:37] <whiz2> ghostshadow189: The partition is created... how do I format it?
[08:37] <Ademan> whiz2: are you using *parted ?
[08:38] <whiz2> to partition?
[08:38] <Ademan> yep
[08:38] <whiz2> sudo cfdisk
[08:38] <marcondes> somebody knows "coroas"?
[08:38] <whiz2> it's already partitioned
[08:38] <Ademan> what are you trying to do ?
[08:38] <whiz2> I just need to figure out how to format the partition, and mount it so that it stays mouinted when I reboot
[08:39] <whiz2> and I wanna label it toolol
[08:39] <Ademan> you could add it to .bashrc
[08:39] <ghostshadow189> whiz2 : mke2fs		
[08:39] <Ademan> whiz2: startup qparted and format it to whatever fs you want
[08:40] <whiz2> how do I start that?
[08:40] <whiz2> That's GUI right?
[08:40] <marcondes> hello everybody, thanks
[08:40] <marcondes> im going...
[08:40] <Ademan> whiz2: open up adept and make sure its installed (package name should be qparted) if not, install it
[08:41] <Ademan> i got the package name wrong btw
[08:42] <whiz2> ok what is it?
[08:42] <Ademan> its
[08:42] <Ademan> qtparted
[08:42] <Ademan> lol
[08:42] <Ademan> so close
[08:42] <whiz2> lol ok
[08:43] <Ademan> is it installed? and do you know how to install packages?
[08:44] <whiz2> is it for KDE?
[08:44] <whiz2> and what type would it be?
[08:44] <whiz2> I know how to install packages.
[08:44] <Ademan> is which for kde?
[08:44] <Ademan> qtparted?
[08:44] <Ademan> yes
[08:44] <Ademan> gparted is the GNOME version
[08:45] <Ademan> qt is what kde uses for its widgets
[08:45] <Ademan> gtk+ is what GNOME uses for its widgets
[08:45] <whiz2> what type of widget is it?
[08:45] <whiz2> settings, utility, etc
[08:46] <Jucato> widgets = control boxes, tabs, buttons, sliders, scrollbars, etc
[08:47] <whiz2> Ademan: I found it
[08:47] <Ademan> cool, just fyi you can type in the package name and it will auto-seek to it :-)
[08:47] <whiz2> ok
[08:47] <Ademan> install it if its not already installed
[08:47] <whiz2> already getting it
[08:47] <Ademan> good
[08:47] <Ademan> fire it up once you've got it
[08:48] <whiz2> will it help with mounting them afterwards too?
[08:52] <Ademan> whiz2: no, just formating and partitioning
[08:53] <Torched> !porn
[08:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about porn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:53] <Torched> fucking useless
[08:53] <Torched> debian has porn
[08:53] <Jucato> !language
[08:53] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:53] <Torched> !language
[08:54] <flaccid> haha
[08:54] <Torched> someone accidently kicked me
[08:54] <Torched> that's ok, i forgive you
[08:54] <Jucato> :)
[08:54] <whiz2> uh oh...
[08:55] <Healot> !find porn
[08:55] <ubotu> Found: pornview
[08:55] <Jucato> lol
[08:55] <Healot> duh
[08:56] <Healot> !info pornview
[08:56] <ubotu> pornview: Image and movie viewer/manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2pre1-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 200 kB, installed size 608 kB
[08:56] <whiz2> Ademan: qtpart has stopped responding... I was having it create a new partition fat32, and it stopped responding... this is not the "commit" stage though
[08:58] <Riddell> whiz2: use gparted if you're having problems with qtparted
[08:59] <whiz2> might be an issue with the drive itself...
[08:59] <whiz2> rebooting... bbs
[09:00] <whiz2> lol
[09:00] <whiz2> bbs
[09:00] <Riddell> Ademan: why?
[09:01] <Ademan> no lockups ever with GNOME, experienced several with KDE, on top of that adept is very flaky
[09:01] <Ademan> i enjoy kde, a lot of thigns feel more polished
[09:01] <Ademan> but GNOME suits me better
[09:01] <Ademan> but i've set my mother up with kubuntu on her computer and it serves her well
[09:02] <Ademan> she's actually the one having the printer problems
[09:02] <sakitel> cacti??
[09:02] <Whiz2> good thing I have another computer right next to that one lol
[09:02] <sakitel> problem when i tried to install cacti...
[09:02] <Jucato> qtparted isn't really a KDE app, irc. it's a Qt app, but not KDE
[09:03] <Dink> i used the qtparted live cd
[09:03] <Ademan> Jucato: but kde is built on QT
[09:04] <Ademan> which reminds me
[09:04] <Jucato> Ademan: but it doesn't mean that all Qt apps are KDE apps. Opera is based on Qt
[09:04] <Ademan> i want that greenphone from trolltech
[09:04] <Jucato> and so is Scribus, iirc
[09:04] <Ademan> Jucato: I wasn't saying that a qt app is a KDE app, just like a gtk+ app isnt necessarily a GNOME app
[09:04] <Ademan> but I was more implying that the problems i've experienced are probably more a result of Qt than the design of KDE itself
[09:05] <Jucato> sorry I didn't see the implication. I just saw the jump from "qtparted locked up" to "which reminds me why I use GNOME"
[09:09] <tga> hey
[09:09] <tga> anything wrong with kubuntu-desktop in Dapper or do I just have a confused system?
[09:09] <Ademan> Jucato: i didn't really specify, but hey, *I* knew what i was talking about :-p
[09:09] <Jucato> :)
[09:09] <Whiz2> Is there a way that I can check the disk for errors?
[09:09] <Ademan> tga: what do you mean?
[09:09] <Ademan> fsck?
[09:09] <tga>   kubuntu-desktop: Depends: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins but it is not going to be installed
[09:10] <Ademan> tga: why do you want kde anyways? :-p
[09:10] <Jucato> hm...
[09:10] <tga> Mac-style menu bars :)
[09:10] <Ademan> ???.....
[09:11] <Ademan> i was about to duck
[09:11] <tga> so?
[09:11] <Ademan> tga: menu bars? as in the top and bottom things? or the things on top of windows? i've heard both reffered to as menu bars
[09:11] <Whiz2> Ademan: Interesting issue... qtparted worked perfectly fine to format the first ofthe 2 drives, but keeps freezing on the 2nd... grr
[09:12] <Jucato> Ademan: Mac-style top menu bars, you haven't seen those?
[09:12] <tga> Ademan, as in the bars on which you can find an application's menus
[09:12] <tga> I only want one, not one for each app
[09:12] <tga> Gnome doesn't swing that way afaict
[09:12] <Whiz2> ooh! I've seen those! I use it on kubuntu
[09:12] <Ademan> tga: wow, thats the exact reason I hate OSX but hey, whatever floats your boat
[09:12] <Ademan> anywho
[09:13] <noiesmo> for kde could you not just do sudo apt-get install kde kdebase kdelibs
[09:13] <Jucato> Ademan: let's not turn #kubuntu into a "defend why you chose to use KDE" channel :P
[09:13] <noiesmo> tga, for kde could you not just do sudo apt-get install kde kdebase kdelibs
[09:13] <tga> it takes a bit of getting used to it but after switching back you can tell the diff
[09:13] <Ademan> Whiz2: I keep typing Quiz for whatever brain damaged reason, anyways, try gparted as someone else said
[09:13] <tga> noiesmo,   kde: Depends: kdegraphics but it is not going to be installed
[09:14] <Jucato> tga: you have the main repositories enabled?
[09:14] <tga> yeah, main universe multiverse
[09:14] <Jucato> Whiz2: are you sure that the drive/partition that you are formatting is unmounted?
[09:14] <Ademan> Jucato: Sorry, Its just that really does bug me, i mean, the whole idea is that every application has its own menu bar, and to "globalize it" even though its context sensitive (sensitive to which window is top level) it totally bastardises the idea of having individual menu bars
[09:15] <Whiz2> Yes. when I type umount for that drive/partition, it tells me it is not mounted
[09:15] <tga> I should probably just do a clean install, this machine was originally running Warty
[09:15] <Jucato> I'm not a fan of it either. but it unique, so it's good :P
[09:15] <Jucato> tga: hm.. might be a good idea
[09:15] <Ademan> I suppose having the OPTION to do that is nice
[09:15] <Whiz2> it can create a fat16 partition no problem on the same drive (half the full drive) but when I make fat32 (full drive) it freezes on me
[09:15] <noiesmo> tga, would be good otherwise you'll need to add and remove apps to sort dependencies
[09:16] <Ademan> Whiz2:  what's the fat32 partition for anyways?
[09:16] <Jucato> hm... how large is the 2nd drive you're trying to formaqt as FAT32 Whiz2?
[09:17] <Whiz2> I'm formatting 2 drives for use as storage across a network.
[09:17] <noiesmo> Whiz2, are you going to run samba on system with drives
[09:17] <Ademan> Whiz2: if you're sharing them on a network the other computers don't know or care what the internal file system is and you should just use ext3
[09:17] <Whiz2> the 2nd drive is small (2GB) for documents, and such.
[09:17] <Whiz2> Samba is setup
[09:18] <noiesmo> Whiz2, just use ext3 or linux file system
[09:18] <michael___> How do I install the entire gnome gdm?
[09:18] <michael___> what repo is it?
[09:18] <tga> fat32 is good to share files between Ubuntu and Win
[09:18] <Whiz2> and if I later decide I wanna change my OS for this machine? How would I get the files?
[09:18] <Ademan> tga: but this is across a network...
[09:18] <Jucato> michael___: it's in main. the name is gdm
[09:18] <tga> fat32 is good to share files between Ubuntu and Win on the same machine
[09:18] <Jucato> !gdm
[09:18] <ubotu> gdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.10-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1681 kB, installed size 11588 kB
[09:18] <Healot> tga, tried ext2 IFS yet?
[09:18] <Ademan> Whiz: there's a way on windows ext2fs i believe, hold on
[09:19] <tga> last time I tried to do that it was buggy as hell
[09:19] <noiesmo> Whiz2, you can get a ext3 explorer for windows systems
[09:19] <Healot> it is stable now
[09:19] <tga> that's good to hear
[09:19] <Ademan> Whiz2: http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html
[09:19] <Healot> tga, or get Symantec Partition Magic :)
[09:19] <noiesmo> Ademan, thats it
[09:19] <michael___> Jucato: so I just instal gdm package ??
[09:19] <Ademan> tga: yeah me too.... but don't tell him that
[09:19] <Whiz2> I'm going to try something on a hunch...
[09:19] <Jucato> michael___: what are you trying to do? gdm is *not* GNOME itself, btw
[09:20] <Healot> michael__: if you have ubuntu desktop isntall, no need to resintall gdm
[09:20] <Jucato> gdm just takes care of the login screen, that's all
[09:20] <michael___> all i had was a kde ubuntu cd
[09:20] <michael___> i want gnome also
[09:20] <Healot> if you have isntalled the server way, you need "ubuntu-desktop"
[09:20] <Healot> ubuntu-desktop is the package you need, michael__
[09:20] <Jucato> michael___: ah, you might want to just install "ubuntu-desktop" then
[09:20] <Jucato> or what Healot said :P
[09:21] <michael___> ok, thanks
[09:21] <Whiz2> guess it's not fat32 compatible... I made 2 fat16 parts on it instead
[09:21] <michael___> then i gotta install windows in a virtual machine b4 tomorrow :P
[09:21] <tga> fat16 wha?
[09:21] <Whiz2> I'd rather keep it readable if I have to change my OS on the kubuntu machine
[09:22] <michael___> thanks all\
[09:22] <michael___> well, thanks Jucato
[09:22] <michael___> good night all
[09:23] <Ademan> Whiz2: wow fat16? seriously dude, ext3, there's no good reason to use fat16 EVER unless you plan on running dos...
[09:23] <Whiz2> now I have another problem.
[09:23] <tga> he did say 'change the OS' :)
[09:23] <tga> better keep all options open
[09:24] <Whiz2> umm... I dunno any windows system that can read ext3... if I need to unexpectedly change the operating system to windows, then I want to ahve access to the files
[09:24] <tga> Whiz2, see above
[09:24] <ziabice> re all
[09:24] <Whiz2> at least someone agrees with me
[09:24] <Whiz2> thanks tag
[09:24] <Whiz2> tga
[09:25] <Ademan> yes limiting partitions to 2 Gb sure keeps options open :-)
[09:25] <tga> fat32 is decent if you don't mind the possibility of losing all your data
[09:25] <Whiz2> my other problem is how to mount all the newly formatted drives so that they stay mounted if I reboot...?
[09:25] <tga> but then again, you of course have backups
[09:25] <noiesmo> Whiz2, your right do what you want its all good its just most off use would prob just use a live cd to get bak data
[09:25] <tga> Whiz2, you add them to /etc/fstab
[09:25] <noiesmo> Whiz2, edit /etc/fstab
[09:26] <Ademan> Whiz2: ext2fs, it allows you to read ext3 partitions, do it
[09:26] <Whiz2> hang on...
[09:26] <tga> Ademan, does it mount them or just copy files?
[09:26] <Ademan> tga: mount iirc, but i havent used it enough to really say
[09:26] <Whiz2> brb
[09:27] <Ademan> just enough to know it works to my satisfaction
[09:27] <whiz2> ok now say that again Ademan
[09:27] <Ademan> ext2fs http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html  allows you to access your ext3 partitions through windows
[09:28] <Ademan> and honestly, there's no good reason NOT to use ext3, you should be using a journaling file system one way or another
[09:28] <tga> do you get a journal when mounting ext3 on Windows?
[09:28] <whiz2> I should download that for windows?
[09:28] <Jucato> no they should make it possible to install Linux on NTFS :P
[09:29] <whiz2> lol
[09:30] <Healot> NTFS is a trade secret; Microsoft haven't charge royalty on Linux kernel yet :-
[09:30] <Healot> they might do that in th future
[09:30] <Healot> the best way is stay away from Microsoft patented filesystems
[09:30] <tga> can you patent something after other people have started using it too?
[09:30] <Jucato> it's a trade secret because they don't want people to have solid proof of how krappy it is?
[09:31] <Jucato> tga: I guess so, as long as you could prove that you came up with it first?
[09:31] <Healot> Jucato, crappy or not, respect patents please... i don't give a damn about NTFS performance
[09:31] <tga> Jucato, don't think I like that
[09:31] <whiz2> well I have linux on here, because windows won't fit on the system drive
[09:31] <tga> a-ha! Windows CD
[09:32] <Jucato> Healot: it was supposed to be a joke (installing Linux on NTFS)
[09:32] <tga> cheers
[09:32] <Healot> nah nvm
[09:34] <whiz2> Ademan: That utility appears to only have support for ext2 filesystem
[09:34] <Ademan> whiz2: ext3 is just ext2 with journaling
[09:35] <whiz2> I hope it works if I need it...
[09:37] <Healot> if you like to spend money, get Symantec Partition Magic
[09:37] <whiz2> I have no income whatsoever
[09:37] <whiz2> I'm disabled, and can not work. :-(
[09:37] <Healot> you can browser/copy/move/delete file safely from NTFS/ext2/3 filesystems safely hehe
[09:38] <Ademan> whiz2: just fyi i've used it to read my ext3 partition
[09:41] <whiz2> What's the syntax in fstab for giving a drive read/write/execute access for all users?
[09:41] <admin__> hi
[09:42] <Healot> rw in the options field
[09:42] <whiz2> wjhat about umask?
[09:42] <Healot> umask option might be needed as mount requires and uses root access
[09:43] <whiz2> no i mean what value should it be? 000 or 777?
[09:43] <Healot> whiz2, depends on what you are going to do?
[09:43] <Healot> you want ALL user to write/read/execute?
[09:44] <whiz2> Yes
[09:44] <Healot> umask=0000 then, will produce permission 7777 - world-writable permission :)
[09:44] <Healot> sorry 6777
[09:44] <whiz2> only has 3 digits
[09:45] <whiz2> 777 it is
[09:45] <Healot> whiz2, umask need inverse octal
[09:45] <whiz2> so change 000 to 0777?
[09:45] <Healot> ok
[09:46] <whiz2> I take that as a yes
[09:46] <Healot> listen, if you want permission on that mount point to be 777 (worldw-writable)
[09:46] <Healot> umask with 000
[09:46] <whiz2> you said 0777 a moment ago
[09:47] <maryen> anyone else here running edgy on an smp kernel?
[09:47] <maryen> aka the general kernel
[09:47] <Healot> whiz2, yeah you can include the first 0 if you want to...
[09:47] <whiz2> umask=000
[09:48] <Healot>  umask=0000 then, will produce permission 6777; umask inverse the permission octals
[09:48] <maryen> i take the silence means no
[09:48] <whiz2> basically it's backwards
[09:48] <whiz2> maryen: my answer is no
[09:48] <Healot> inverse is the term :0
[09:49] <Healot> no, i'm still using dapper
[09:49] <maryen> i switched after dapper messed up bad on me
[09:49] <Healot> and I don't have a two or dual core processors
[09:49] <maryen> i wasn't able to compile stuff anymore for some reason x.X
[09:49] <whiz2> now I reboot?
[09:50] <Healot> whiz2, just remount; sudo umount -a && sudo mount -a
[09:50] <maryen> you should try edgy healot
[09:51] <maryen> pretty stable with the exception of the install
[09:51] <Healot> maryen, i am not a beta tester :)
[09:51] <Healot> only use stable release, since i have no toy machine
[09:51] <maryen> eh im using this as production
[09:51] <maryen> even though i shouldnt
[09:51] <maryen> lol
[09:52] <whiz2> "Can not find ext on /dev/hdb1 (and /dev/hdc1) or bad superblock"
[09:52] <Acidic32> ok adept is messed up
[09:52] <whiz2> ext3*
[09:53] <Jucato> Acidic32: how messed up?
[09:53] <Acidic32> i click FULL upgrade, but it dont do anything, yet i see packages which can be upgraded.
[09:53] <linuxsuxazz> hi
[09:53] <whiz2> I'm rebooting
[09:53] <linuxsuxazz> the
[09:53] <linuxsuxazz> kubuntu
[09:53] <linuxsuxazz> os
[09:53] <Jucato> Acidic32: you have to click on Apply Changes
[09:53] <linuxsuxazz> sux
[09:53] <linuxsuxazz> ass
[09:53] <Acidic32> apply isnt clickable
[09:53] <maryen> huh
[09:53] <Jucato> Acidic32: click on Preview Changes to check that nothing will be broken?
[09:54] <maryen> linux, you a joke account?
[09:54] <Acidic32> its empty
[09:54] <linuxsuxazz> no
[09:54] <linuxsuxazz> linuxsuxazz
[09:54] <linuxsuxazz> is
[09:54] <linuxsuxazz> my
[09:54] <linuxsuxazz> registered
[09:54] <linuxsuxazz> user
[09:54] <linuxsuxazz> nanne
[09:55] <Acidic32> linuxsuxazz: can u stop pressing enter after every word?
[09:55] <Jucato> hm.. that's strange
[09:55] <maryen> stop that, its annoying
[09:55] <linuxsuxazz> ok i will press enter after ever letter
[09:55] <linuxsuxazz> f
[09:55] <linuxsuxazz> u
[09:55] <linuxsuxazz> c
[09:55] <linuxsuxazz> k
[09:55] <linuxsuxazz> y
[09:55] <linuxsuxazz> o
[09:55] <linuxsuxazz> u
[09:55] <linuxsuxazz> i
[09:55] <maryen> just use apt acidic
[09:55] <linuxsuxazz> s
[09:55] <linuxsuxazz> t
[09:55] <linuxsuxazz> h
[09:55] <linuxsuxazz> a
[09:55] <linuxsuxazz> t
[09:55] <linuxsuxazz> b
[09:55] <maryen> might tell you whats wrong
[09:55] <linuxsuxazz> e
[09:55] <linuxsuxazz> tt
[09:55] <linuxsuxazz> er
[09:55] <Acidic32> linuxsuxazz: you join the group of useless people that need to get a life
[09:55] <sF|Xemanth> linuxsuxazz: stfu
[09:55] <linuxsuxazz> i have a life
[09:56] <maryen> !mods
[09:56] <linuxsuxazz> i fuck my girlfriend ever night
[09:56] <linuxsuxazz> you
[09:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mods - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:56] <linuxsuxazz> don't have a girlfrind
[09:56] <maryen> !mod
[09:56] <linuxsuxazz> so u fuck ur pillow
[09:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:56] <linuxsuxazz> bitch
[09:56] <maryen> !ops
[09:56] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind or trappist
[09:56] <Jucato> !ops
[09:56] <Acidic32> linuxsuxazz: just /part please
[09:56] <maryen> hehe i beat you jucato
[09:56] <Jucato> lol
[09:56] <linuxsuxazz> !ops
[09:56] <maryen> !ubotu
[09:56] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:56] <maryen> !botsnack
[09:56] <ubotu> Yum!
[09:56] <linuxsuxazz> !ubuntu
[09:56] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[09:57] <linuxsuxazz> !rm
[09:57] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[09:57] <linuxsuxazz> !fdisk
[09:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:57] <linuxsuxazz> !fork bomb
[09:57] <maryen> gparted is better
[09:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fork bomb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:57] <Jucato> !botabuse > linuxsuxazz
[09:57] <maryen> or qtparted
[09:57] <Acidic32> linuxsuxazz: i am married, i have 2 kids, i live in a 5 bedroom house, i got a 5 acre field, and a Mitsubushi L200 Warrior pickup truck
[09:57] <linuxsuxazz> !botabues > JUcato
[09:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botabues - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <Acidic32> linuxsuxazz: more than you? :)
[09:58] <Jucato> yay thanks Riddell!!
[09:58] <Whiz2> I think someone is a bit cranky
[09:58] <Acidic32> thanks riddell
[09:58] <cpk2> can kaffeine play .bin?
[09:58] <matthe> hi all
[09:58] <maryen> guh my battery is just about to run out
[09:58] <Jucato> he's been trolling in #kde too
[09:58] <maryen> has he?
[09:58] <maryen> cool
[09:58] <Acidic32> im trying to get in to programming KDE Programs
[09:59] <mabreaux> Quick question: Can anyone recommend a book on Kubuntu?
[09:59] <Whiz2> he got the boot
[09:59] <Acidic32> dont know where to start tho
[09:59] <Jucato> I would have given him more than a boot :P
[10:00] <maryen> mabreux, theres the official ubuntu book
[10:00] <maryen> but thats about ubuntu
[10:00] <mabreaux> is there anything on Kubuntu?
[10:00] <Whiz2> ok now I have 2 disks that won't work, and a linux installation that won't boot because of it
[10:00] <Jucato> not really. no book on Kubuntu... suxxorz... :(
[10:00] <maryen> well there are wikis
[10:00] <maryen> what do you wanna know though
[10:00] <mabreaux> bummer
[10:00] <noiesmo> mabreaux, kubuntu is pretty much just kde not gnome maybe a book on kde
[10:00] <Jucato> well...
[10:01] <Whiz2> I'm getting aweefully frustrated
[10:01] <maryen> everyone here is helpful, with the exception of that last guy
[10:01] <unix_infidel> any freenode ops in here?
[10:01] <mabreaux> working on wireless pcmcia card (boardcom)
[10:01] <Whiz2> you mean the guy that got kicked?
[10:01] <maryen> ya
[10:01] <Riddell> unix_infidel: /stats p
[10:01] <maryen> broadcom card is easy to handle
[10:01] <Whiz2> well I kinda need more help lol
[10:01] <unix_infidel> Riddell: i hate to say this in here, but we've got a problem in ##dinwos.
[10:01] <unix_infidel> erm, ##windows.
[10:02] <Riddell> maryen: official ubuntu book covers kubuntu
[10:02] <Jucato> dinwos? hehehe
[10:02] <unix_infidel> Riddell: ahh, taken care of :)
[10:02] <maryen> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[10:02] <maryen> it does?
[10:02] <unix_infidel> Riddell: thanks anyway :)
[10:02] <Jucato> unix_infidel: who was it? linuxsuxazz?
[10:02] <maryen> there is a guide for your wireless card mabreaux
[10:02] <cpk2> maryen: kubuntu IS ubuntu
[10:02] <unix_infidel> Jucato: some tor user.
[10:02] <Jucato> ah
[10:02] <maryen> kubuntu is ubuntu with less love
[10:02] <mabreaux> is does....  Just how different is ubuntu for kubuntu, I know one is gnome and the other is kde but what else?
[10:02] <Jucato> someone got kicked here too
[10:03] <noiesmo> mabreaux, thats it
[10:03] <Jucato> maryen: not really. Riddell gives Kubuntu lots and lots of love :)
[10:03] <cpk2> mabreaux: thats all
[10:03] <Riddell> mabreaux: that's the only difference
[10:03] <Whiz2> supposedly formatted /dev/hdb1 and /dev/hdc1 as ext then changed fstab to reflect that, but now on reboot, I get errors that say the filesystems on those 2 disks are bad, or there's an issue with the superblocks, and it won't boot, but left me at a shell promompt
[10:03] <mabreaux> where is the guild on wireless?
[10:03] <Jucato> mabreaux: nothing more :)
[10:03] <maryen> its practically the same just different DEs
[10:03] <Jucato> guild?
[10:03] <Whiz2> ext3
[10:03] <maryen> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper here mabreaux
[10:03] <mabreaux> DEs?
[10:03] <maryen> desktop environments
[10:04] <mabreaux> thank you for the links...
[10:04] <Whiz2> can someon help me fix this problem?
[10:04] <noiesmo> mabreaux, depends on which network app have a look here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[10:04] <maryen> hes got a broadcom card
[10:04] <noiesmo> maryen, k
[10:05] <Whiz2> Umm... help... please?
[10:05] <maryen> jucato: i really would like to see some of the polish ubuntu has in kubuntu
[10:06] <maryen> what problem whiz2
[10:06] <Whiz2> supposedly formatted /dev/hdb1 and /dev/hdc1 as ext then changed fstab to reflect that, but now on reboot, I get errors that say the filesystems on those 2 disks are bad, or there's an issue with the superblocks, and it won't boot, but left me at a shell promompt
[10:06] <Whiz2> ext3
[10:06] <Jucato> maryen: could you qualify "polish"?
[10:06] <magical_trevsky> hi. I updated my system last night, and now amarok can't play flac files.. any ideas how to fix this?
[10:06] <magical_trevsky> it says there is no audio channel to play
[10:07] <Whiz2> maryen: I've been having problems formatting these drives for HOURS
[10:07] <gnomefreak> just cleaning bans ;)
[10:07] <maryen> jucato: basically the same level of completeness as SuSE, but without the huge amount of bloat
[10:07] <Jucato> ah "removes"
[10:07] <maryen> hmm
[10:07] <Jucato> maryen: we need more developers. care to help? :)
[10:07] <maryen> once i learn to program i would love to
[10:07] <Whiz2> maryen: and now I had them (supposedly) formatted as ext3, but I'm getting superblock errors, and linux refuses to boot now
[10:07] <Jucato> maryen: there are more ways to contribute than just programming, though :)
[10:08] <maryen> i've never had problems with formatting on linux whiz2 so i couldn't help you
[10:08] <maryen> jucato: beta tester?
[10:08] <Jucato> maryen: let me find a link/page
[10:08] <mabreaux> does any know of a voice dictation program for linux?
[10:09] <Whiz2> ok nevermind... gonna simply start fresh with a new installation of Linux, and start all over... maybe that way I can get them to work right...
[10:09] <maryen> i dont think so mabreaux
[10:09] <mabreaux> bummer
[10:10] <maryen> theres programs that read the stuff for you, but no oral commands as far as I know
[10:10] <maryen> i could be wrong though
[10:10] <mabreaux> I know IBM was working a via voice for linux but I do not think anything came of it
[10:10] <gnomefreak> maryen: testing but it involves more of filing bugs, you can triage bugs, helping in IRC helping in forums helping with wikis editing,building and a bunch more ways
[10:10] <Jucato> maryen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HelpingKubuntu
[10:11] <gnomefreak> maryen: we also concider teling Jucato off as helping ;) j/k
[10:11] <maryen> lol
[10:11] <Jucato> heh
[10:11] <magical_trevsky> nvm my problem, downgrading libxine fixed it :)
[10:11] <maryen> ok i g2g to bed
[10:11] <maryen> nite guys
[10:11] <gnomefreak> nite
[10:12] <cpk2> guys is there a way to get kaffeine to play .bin? (mplayer can do it but i prefer to stick to just one movie player)
[10:13] <Jucato> cpk2: I'm not sure it can :(
[10:13] <cpk2> well boo
[10:13] <gnomefreak> post a .bin you want to play in kaffine and ill download it and try it but im thinking chances are slim
[10:14] <gnomefreak> plus its just after 4am here :(
[10:15] <Jucato> heh you're an early bird gnomefreak :)
[10:15] <gnomefreak> normally 5am not this early
[10:15] <cpk2> gnomefreak: its a bin leftover from windows, so cant really post it
[10:15] <gnomefreak> and i have to go out early today. stopping by my shop and throwing tires on car
[10:15] <cpk2> being 700mB and all
[10:16] <gnomefreak> cpk2: i doubt youll be playing it
[10:16] <gnomefreak> mplayer has most codecs installed so it shouldnt have much issues
[10:16] <cpk2> gnomefreak: mplayer does it out of the box, just wanted kaffeine to do it out of simplicity for myself
[10:17] <gnomefreak> mpby default plays just about everything out of box others you have to install and configure it too if there is a config option
[10:17] <mabreaux> goodnight all
[10:17] <Jucato> heh there's an .mkv file that won't play in anything except mplayer...
[10:18] <cpk2> Jucato: really? i just tested a .mkv on kaffeine and it worked i think
[10:18] <cpk2> that or I am tired and confused
[10:19] <Jucato> I guess it depends on what was used to make the .mkv file. .mkv is just a container/wrapper
[10:19] <noiesmo> Jucato, sorry dude vlc will play mkv or mastroka
[10:19] <Jucato> er yeah VLC played it too, but it was distorted
[10:20] <noiesmo> anyhow that doesnt help cpk2 get bin playing on kaffeine
[10:21] <cpk2> i guess I should just be thankful it works on mplayer
[10:21] <cpk2> kinda strange mplayer can do it and kaffeine cant though
[10:25] <charlie5> hello ... does anyone use a netcomm modem for broadband ?
[10:31] <charlie5> a CHAP authorisation fail ... would that mean a bad username/password combo ?
[10:32] <cpk2> does ls show links?
[10:32] <Jucato> cpk2: you mean symlink?
[10:32] <cpk2> ummm yes? I am trying to figure out where a file links to
[10:32] <Jucato> yes it will show. use "ls -l"
[10:33] <cpk2> hrmm i guess that file was linked then =P
[10:34] <cpk2> wasnt*
[10:34] <cpk2> azureus is driving me up a wall
[10:35] <Jucato> you installed Sun Java?
[10:35] <cpk2> yes
[10:35] <cpk2> you want to hear the whole story?
[10:35] <Jucato> hm.. ok
[10:36] <cpk2> "azplugins" cant update because I dont have permission in ~/.azureus/plugins/azplugins/azplugins_2.1.1.jar
[10:36] <cpk2> also the gui dies if i try to view the files in a torrent from within azureus
[10:36] <cpk2> azureus doesnt die
[10:36] <Jucato> hm.. are you supposed to be able to update those plugins in the first place?
[10:36] <cpk2> just the gui is unusable
[10:36] <cpk2> its an autoupdate thing so i would think yes?
[10:37] <Jucato> well, you're not able to use Firefox's autoupdate right? so maybe the same thing in azureus?
[10:38] <cpk2> oh, i havent tried using firefox heh
[10:38] <Jucato> heh
[10:38] <cpk2> i dont get why I dont have permision in home though
[10:41] <cpk2> i guess maybe someone who uses azureus will come in and see me griping about it one day
[10:41] <cpk2> or maybe the repo will be updated
[10:41] <Jucato> hopefully :)
[10:42] <cpk2> azureus is at 2.5 and the repo at 2.3 =(
[10:42] <noiesmo> cpk2, have you tried bittornado-gui i find it quite good
[10:42] <Jucato> or ktorrent
[10:43] <cpk2> <--- stuck in his ways
[10:43] <noiesmo> never liked ktorrent
[10:43] <noiesmo> you can say that again
[10:43] <noiesmo> haha
[10:43] <cpk2> same reason why i have kubuntu not gnome
[10:44] <cpk2> I use kde and dont want change =P
[10:44] <noiesmo> cpk2, I use kde wouldn't change at this stage but if I need an app and its gnome/gtk based so what install it use it
[10:56] <damiano> hello
[10:56] <damiano> is there anybody?
[10:56] <cpk2> nope
[10:56] <Jucato> no one here but us ghosts
[10:57] <damiano> :)
[10:57] <damiano> kubuntu has a bug
[10:57] <Jucato> it has lots :P
[10:57] <damiano> i have installed any package to run apache php and mysql
[10:57] <damiano> apache2 apache2-common apache2-utils libapache2-mod-auth-mysql libapache2-mod-auth-pam libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql libapache2-mod-auth-plain libapache2-mod-php5 libapache2-mod-security libapache2-mod-fastcgi php5 php5-common php5-gd php5-mysql php5-mysqli php5-odbc php5-pgsql php5-xmlrpc php5-sqlite php5-mcrypt php5-ps php5-gd php4-domxml mysql-client-5.0 mysql-server-5.0 mysql-admin mysql-admin-common
[10:58] <damiano> but php is not installed!! Why?
[10:58] <damiano> Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) Server at 127.0.0.1 Port 80
[10:58] <damiano> php not found, why?
[10:58] <Jucato> because php5 is already installed?
[10:58] <Jucato> !php5
[10:58] <ubotu> php5: server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package). In component main, is optional. Version 5.1.2-1ubuntu3.2 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB
[10:59] <damiano> no
[10:59] <damiano> damiano@damiano:~$ whereis php
[10:59] <damiano> php:
[10:59] <damiano> damiano@damiano:~$
[10:59] <noiesmo> damiano, check /etc/php5
[10:59] <noiesmo> damiano, also check in apache conf if mysql.so is not commented out
[10:59] <damiano> ops yes exist
[11:00] <damiano> where is apache config?
[11:01] <noiesmo> damiano, /etc/apache2/
[11:01] <rampage>  where can i find new fronts ???
[11:01] <damiano> ops
[11:01] <damiano> # This is here for backwards compatability reasons and to support
[11:01] <damiano> #  installing 3rd party modules directly via apxs2, rather than
[11:01] <damiano> #  through the /etc/apache2/mods-{available,enabled} mechanism.
[11:01] <damiano> #
[11:01] <damiano> #LoadModule mod_placeholder /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_placeholder.so
[11:02] <Jucato> damiano: please don't flood
[11:02] <damiano> this is my httpd.conf
[11:02] <Jucato> !pastebin
[11:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:02] <damiano> sorry
[11:02] <Jucato> use that instead ^^^^
[11:02] <noiesmo> damiano, apache2 is a little diff to apache 1.3
[11:02] <rampage> where can i find new fronts ???
[11:02] <noiesmo> damiano, check the files in sites-enabled and sites-available folders in the /etc/apache2 folder and RTFM
[11:03] <rampage>   where can i find new fronts ???
[11:03] <damiano> i have apache2.conf
[11:03] <damiano> is this?
[11:03] <noiesmo> damiano, check the files in sites-enabled and sites-available folders in the /etc/apache2 folder you should have default
[11:04] <noiesmo> damiano, /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[11:04] <damiano> ok
[11:04] <noiesmo> damiano, /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/default
[11:05] <noiesmo> rampage, have you got sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[11:05] <wildchild> How do I check how much space do I have on HD
[11:05] <noiesmo> wildchild, df -h
[11:06] <damiano> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25793/ (avalaible)
[11:07] <noiesmo> damiano, so at mo the /var/www folder is your website space
[11:07] <rampage>  yea
[11:07] <damiano> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25794/ (enable)
[11:07] <damiano> yes i have undestand but php module is not load
[11:08] <Acidic32> -how do i get X Libarys and headers?
[11:08] <damiano> apache is running
[11:08] <damiano> but php no!
[11:09] <flaccid> i just sudo apt-get install ubuntu-dekstop and now both gdm and kdm run on startup
[11:10] <damiano> why?
[11:10] <Jucato> hm.. that's not possible afaik?
[11:11] <flaccid> what file chooses the login manager?
[11:11] <Jucato> hm.. let me search my memory....
[11:11] <noiesmo> somewhere in your apache2.conf (or in your conf.d/php.ini) file find ;extension=php_mysql.so so this become extension=php_mysql.so
[11:11] <noiesmo> damiano, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[11:11] <charlie5> anyone know how to setup ip filters to allow d/l via ktorrent ?
[11:11] <Jucato> some x* file...
[11:11] <damiano> ?
[11:11] <flaccid> !gdm
[11:11] <ubotu> gdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.10-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1681 kB, installed size 11588 kB
[11:11] <flaccid> !kdm
[11:11] <ubotu> kdm: X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 600 kB, installed size 1468 kB
[11:12] <flaccid> !loginmanager
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about loginmanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:12] <flaccid> hmm
[11:12] <gijs> damiano, is php5.conf and php5.load present in the /etc/apache2/mods-enabled and /etc/apache2/mods-available dirs?
[11:12] <noiesmo> charlie5, install firestarter its great for that nice gui
[11:12] <flaccid> anyone know where to start
[11:12] <damiano> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25793/ (avalaible)
[11:12] <Jucato> rawr I know I've seen it before...
[11:12] <damiano> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25794/ (enable)
[11:13] <damiano> ops
[11:13] <damiano> one moment
[11:13] <charlie5> noiesmo: i think my modem (netcomm) has an inbuilt firewall i have to use ?
[11:13] <damiano> damiano@damiano:/etc/apache2/mods-enabled$ dir
[11:13] <damiano> cgi.load  fastcgi.conf  fastcgi.load  userdir.conf  userdir.load
[11:13] <damiano> damiano@damiano:/etc/apache2/mods-enabled$
[11:14] <damiano> in /etc/apache2/mods-available
[11:14] <damiano> is present php5.conf
[11:14] <damiano> php5.load
[11:14] <damiano> php5.conf
[11:14] <damiano> right^
[11:15] <damiano> LoadModule php5_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so
[11:15] <Acidic32> -how do i get X Libarys and headers?
[11:15] <damiano> in php5.load
[11:15] <damiano> so why php is not runnnnnnn!!!!?!?
[11:16] <noiesmo> charlie5, normally point web browser at 10.0.0.1 or maybe 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.0.50 check manual for moden should have web iface
[11:17] <Jucato> Acidic32: xorg-dev ?
[11:17] <charlie5> noiesmo: thanks, i have found the modem config page ... but i don;t understand the settings, or what to add to allow ktorrent traffic (upload is ok ... d/l is blocked)
[11:17] <Acidic32> i installed that
[11:17] <Jucato> xserver-xorg-dev?
[11:17] <damiano> noiesmo are you here?
[11:18] <damiano> i restart
[11:19] <Acidic32> !adept-crash-fix
[11:19] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[11:19] <noiesmo> charlie5, normally torrent is port 6881-6889 so you would need to forward those ports to the machine running ktorrent
[11:20] <noiesmo> charlie5, then on machine running ktorrent open firewall ports also
[11:23] <charlie5> noiesmo: ok, thank you very much ... i will see if i can set that up in the modem firewall config
[11:23] <buzzy-> do you know gnormalize? is it good?
[11:25] <godfather> guys g'day
[11:25] <godfather> i'd like to know
[11:25] <godfather> if kubuntu is stable and strong like ubuntu
[11:25] <godfather> someone tells me that it isn't so
[11:25] <godfather> for example
[11:26] <tejinder> how do i remove openoffice?
[11:26] <godfather> adept doesn't work well like synaptic
[11:26] <Jucato> godfather: Adept doesn't work like Synaptic because it is not Synaptic :)
[11:26] <godfather> and it has got a reduced number of packages
[11:26] <roconnor> why are linux-kernel-headers only available for  2.6.11.2?
[11:26] <Jucato> but if you mean the basic functions, they're practically the same
[11:26] <main2> how do i disable localisation in my console?
[11:26] <godfather> yeah of course
[11:26] <godfather> :)
[11:27] <Jucato> of course you can still use Synaptic in Kubuntu. nothing wrong with that
[11:27] <godfather> i mean it doesn't work with the same performance ...security stability and so on
[11:28] <Jucato> security? just the same afaik. stability, Synaptic "might" be more stable. but it really has nothing to do with whether Kubuntu is stable or not. it's just one app
[11:28] <Whiz2> anyone know the syntax in fstab for automounting ext3 patitions with umask=000? I have an issue where they won't automount
[11:28] <godfather> i don't want a hybrid machince...you know ubuntu with kde
[11:28] <Whiz2> I managed get them formatted correctly now tho
[11:28] <Jucato> godfather: you won't have to install ubuntu to have Synaptic in Kubuntu
[11:28] <Jucato> you will only install the needed libs. that's all.
[11:29] <cojy> hi everyone
[11:29] <ninHer> hi all
[11:29] <cojy> I need a little help....anybody?? :(
[11:29] <NthDegree> what's up cojy?
[11:29] <NthDegree> !help
[11:29] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:29] <NthDegree> oops wrong info
[11:29] <cojy> hi
[11:30] <Jucato> !ask
[11:30] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:30] <NthDegree> so what's the problem?
[11:30] <NthDegree> that's the one Jucato :)
[11:30] <Jucato> :P
[11:30] <cojy> I am a begginer in linux system...I've installed ubuntu, and
[11:30] <godfather> i want use kde that's the truth
[11:30] <godfather> i tried to install kde on ubuntu
[11:30] <cojy> I want to install a printer driver
[11:30] <godfather> but t is a caos
[11:30] <buzzy-> people i have downloaded a tar that has to be installaed: i type sudo ./install but it says : "make command not found"
[11:30] <buzzy-> bobesponja,
[11:30] <cojy> I've down the driver that is an archive tz..
[11:30] <godfather> i want install kubuntu
[11:31] <main2> how do i disable localisation in my console?, i want my english console back :(
[11:31] <Jucato> godfather: it will definitely be chaotic since you're having both Kubuntu and Ubuntu on one system
[11:31] <NthDegree> cojy, uh what printer?
[11:31] <cojy> and I don't know what to do further
[11:31] <cojy> lexmark
[11:31] <cojy> I entered the terminal
[11:31] <godfather> having the same power and stabilit that i had on ubuntu
[11:31] <main2> cojy: congratulations :-))
[11:31] <cojy> but when it asks for a pass I can't write nothing
[11:31] <NthDegree> have you tried the normal method of installing printers?
[11:31] <NthDegree> OMG lol
[11:31] <NthDegree> cojy, listen to me:
[11:31] <cojy> ?? what that? :)
[11:31] <cojy> kl
[11:31] <cojy> ok
[11:31] <NthDegree> cojy: you will not see what you type, it does type
[11:32] <NthDegree> not even *s will appear
[11:32] <kamikaze> ei
[11:32] <cojy> aham...so I have to type my pass and press enter
[11:32] <cojy> right?
[11:32] <NthDegree> yep that's what ya gotta do :)
[11:32] <charlie5> hi again ... what 'Port Map' setting should i use for ktorrent port forwarding ?
[11:32] <tejinder> which one is preffered interface to APT? apt-get or aptitude?
[11:33] <cojy> and after this?
[11:33] <cojy> I read somethig that I have to write make
[11:33] <NthDegree> cojy, uh you're compiling printer drivers?
[11:33] <cojy> when I'm in the drivers directory
[11:33] <Whiz2> no one will answer my question?
[11:33] <cojy> I think so
[11:33] <NthDegree> cojy:  what exact model of printer is it?
[11:34] <cojy> I don't know how to work with the terminal....I have the bas, but...
[11:34] <cojy> lexmark x5250
[11:34] <cojy> i downloaded the driver from the official site
[11:34] <cojy> it has the extension .tar.gz
[11:35] <NthDegree> right ok
[11:35] <cojy> I've extracted the archive...
[11:35] <cojy> next?
[11:35] <NthDegree> i'll walk you through it
[11:35] <cojy> thanks...I'm all eyes
[11:35] <NthDegree> next you want sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:35] <NthDegree> that will download what you need to make the drivers
[11:35] <buzzy-> peope: what is the best audio conversion tool?
[11:36] <cojy> where can I donload it?
[11:36] <cojy> download*
[11:36] <NthDegree> i just told you how to download it lol
[11:36] <Whiz2> Help! I need to know the syntax in /etc/fstab for mounting /dev/hdb1 and /dev/hdc1 as etx3 filesystems with read/write/execute file permissions for EVERYONE
[11:36] <NthDegree> cojy, type sudo apt-get build-essential
[11:36] <NthDegree> then hit enter
[11:37] <Jucato> cojy: "sudo apt-get build-essential"
[11:37] <Jucato> (without the quotes)
[11:37] <cojy> ok...wait a sec :)
[11:37] <Whiz2> cojy type that into terminal
[11:37] <charlie5> mmm, ktorrent has a plugin which does the port forwarding for you ... nice :)
[11:38] <Whiz2> no help for the fstab illiterate?
[11:38] <tejinder> which one is better? apt-get or aptitude?
[11:38] <cojy> E: Invalid operation build-essential
[11:38] <cojy> what's that??
[11:38] <Jucato> imho aptitude. but apt-cache is better
[11:38] <Jucato> cojy: "sudo apt-get install build-essential" sorry
[11:38] <Acidic32> err sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:38] <Jucato> my fault... sorry
[11:38] <Acidic32> ooo
[11:39] <Acidic32> to slow
[11:39] <cojy> ah..:) ok no problem ;)
[11:39] <NthDegree> 1 sec
[11:39] <Whiz2> Why am I being ignored?
[11:39] <NthDegree> cojy did you get the drivers from here:  http://www.lexmark.com/lexmark/sequentialem/home/0,6959,204816596_659668526_0_en,00.html
[11:40] <cojy> ok...it is installing...
[11:40] <Jucato> Whiz2: maybe because no one knows the answer to your question?
[11:40] <cojy> let me see
[11:40] <Jucato> flaccid: have you found it?
[11:40] <flaccid> nope i just did reconfigure kdm
[11:40] <NthDegree> cojy: because those drivers are for developemnt and aren't really proper drivers
[11:40] <flaccid> but like my hard disk crashed again
[11:41] <flaccid> need a new one in my notebook
[11:41] <flaccid> lost profile data again
[11:41] <tejinder> how do i remove open office?
[11:41] <cojy> yes...that's the page I down the drivers from
[11:41] <Whiz2> nevermind. I'll get help from someone who knows the ins and outs of Linux.
[11:41] <NthDegree> tejinder: try this, sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org-common
[11:41] <cojy> next?
[11:42] <NthDegree>  ./configure the archive
[11:42] <cojy> but will I be able to use my printer?
[11:42] <NthDegree> then make clean && make#
[11:42] <buzzy-> peope: what is the best audio conversion tool?
[11:42] <cojy> k+
[11:42] <cojy> k..wait a sec
[11:42] <NthDegree> cojy, if you got the drivers from there, probably not.....
[11:42] <gijs> depends on what you are trying to convert to what
[11:43] <cojy> damn....however I can try...it has opened the terminal
[11:43] <NthDegree> well if it works you can post the solution in the forum for all to see :)
[11:44] <cojy> ok...after the terminat finished to set up...what do I do next?
[11:44] <Ash-Fox> http://kwine.sf.net <= cool.
[11:45] <rahmetli> trying to update via adept updater,it downloads the packages but stops at 2%,it is trying toupdate sun-java5-bin.
[11:45] <Ash-Fox> rahmetli, click show details
[11:46] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox i did it,there is a text for licence and an "ok" button
[11:46] <NthDegree> cojy, you want ./configure then make
[11:46] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox but i cant press the button
[11:46] <cojy> ok...
[11:46] <NthDegree> type that in the terminal
[11:47] <Jucato> rahmetli: use your cursor keys instead of the mouse
[11:47] <NthDegree> once the drivers are made by typing make do a make install
[11:47] <Ash-Fox> rahmetli, click it, then try using the cursor keys and hit enter to make your choice.
[11:48] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox no it doesnt work :(
[11:48] <cojy> after make?
[11:48] <NthDegree> make install
[11:48] <cojy> ok
[11:48] <Ash-Fox> rahmetli, I've had that problem once, I found killing one of the last apps running under root under 'ps aux' was enough to get it to install without accepting.
[11:49] <buzzy-> friends: what is the best audio conversion tool?
[11:49] <cojy> doesn't work :(
[11:50] <cojy> it gives me hundreds of errors
[11:50] <buzzy-> friends: what is the best audio conversion tool?
[11:50] <cojy> however thank you NthDegree
[11:51] <cojy> and one more thing...
[11:51] <cojy> haw can I access my ntfs hdd from the root of ubuntu?
[11:51] <Jucato> !ntf
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox now should i kill the process?sorry but i couldnt understand.
[11:51] <Jucato> !ntfs
[11:51] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:52] <cojy> I mean from filesystem ("/")
[11:52] <NthDegree> !ntfs
[11:52] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:53] <cojy> the partitions are allready mounted
[11:53] <charlie5> ktorrent will d/l ok now, but i only get dialup d/l speeds ... do i need to change a speed setting somewhere ?
[11:53] <NthDegree> then you can access them
[11:54] <cojy> but if I want to browse something with a program (like amaroK) ?
[11:54] <NthDegree> OMG
[11:54] <cojy> it only shows me /
[11:54] <cojy> what?
[11:54] <NthDegree> type the location where it was mounted
[11:55] <NthDegree> just navigate to where you mounted it
[11:55] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox you mean this procces? "whiptail --backtitle Ubuntu Configuration --title Configuring sun-java5-bin --output-fd 11 --msgbox Operating Syst"
[11:55] <cojy> I can't...it shows me only the folders from "/"
[11:55] <cojy> like bin, boot....
[11:55] <NthDegree> OMG
[11:55] <NthDegree> where did you mount it?
[11:56] <NthDegree> what folder did you mount it on?
[11:56] <bele> Hi! Can I ask your experiences in using BERYL with kubuntu (or should I ask #ubuntu-effects instead?)) Is it stable?
[11:56] <cojy> I don't know....after I've installed ubuntu were allready mounted
[11:56] <cojy> I can access them from my computer
[11:57] <gijs> if you type "mount" in the console it shows all mounted locations
[11:57] <NthDegree> ok then click on mnt
[11:57] <Jucato>  /media
[11:57] <cojy> ok...1 sec
[11:57] <NthDegree> ok then /media lol
[11:57] <Jucato> he could probably see it in Storage Media (media:/) ?
[11:58] <cojy> you're right...there are in media
[11:58] <rampage>  WHERE CAN I FIND x64 WINE
[11:58] <cojy> :)
[11:58] <cojy> thank you all!!!
[11:58] <rampage> I HAVE 64 BITS AMD
[11:58] <NthDegree> rampage: don't be stupid
[11:58] <rampage>  ???
[11:58] <NthDegree> rampage: there's not any 64bit windows apps yet
[11:58] <cojy> btw...there is any guide for the terminat?
[11:59] <NthDegree> cojy, there's the time tested guide
[11:59] <rampage> i have 64 bits amd
[11:59] <NthDegree> cojy: if you don't know what a command does like chown for instance type man chown
[11:59] <rampage>  would i 386 would run
[11:59] <NthDegree> rampage: listen to me
[11:59] <Jucato> cojy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:59] <rampage>  carry on
[11:59] <NthDegree> rampage: you cant run WINDOWS apps on 64 bit WINE
[12:00] <rampage> but their is no 64 bit wine
[12:00] <NthDegree> rampage: because there aren't any 64 bit windows apps to run
[12:00] <NthDegree> rampage: because there's no proper 64 bit windows
[12:00] <rampage>  all i386 wine pacakages
[12:00] <Hurgin> can anyone tell me how to rename volume labels in edgy?, nothing seems to work
[12:00] <cojy> wow :o I didn't knew that...thaks again :)
[12:00] <rampage>  but i368 doesnt install on my machine
[12:01] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox i understand,i did it and solved the problem,i killed the whiptail proccess,and it started to install.Thank youuu.
[12:01] <urosb> hello
[12:01] <NthDegree> rampage: yes it does :) try man dpkg for the right switches to allow an i386 package to install
[12:01] <Ash-Fox> rahmetli, ack sorry, I was on the phone
[12:01] <urosb> i need some help with sound drivers
[12:01] <NthDegree> you can do it, just not straight forward :)
[12:02] <rampage>  ok trying
[12:02] <NthDegree> rampage: trust me it can be done, just like VMWare can install on a 64bit machine even though VMWare is i386
[12:02] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox again a yes no screen,i cant press
[12:03] <NthDegree> there's --force=architecture which overrides the architecture lool
[12:03] <Ash-Fox> rahmetli, you'll want to kill that too then :/
[12:03] <cojy> can I change my os boot sequence?
[12:03] <NthDegree> cojy, what do you mean?
[12:04] <NthDegree> cojy, on the GRUB menu, change what is booted by default?
[12:04] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox will it accept is as "ok" ?
[12:04] <cojy> at the system start, by default starts ubuntu...
[12:04] <cojy> a..ok
[12:04] <cojy> how? :)
[12:04] <Ash-Fox> rahmetli, in my expirence it should take any kill as a "yes" or "i accept", "ok" etc.
[12:04] <cojy> I don't have such command
[12:04] <NthDegree> cojy, try this:  sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:05] <NthDegree> edit that file
[12:05] <cojy> ok
[12:05] <NthDegree> change the "default" line from 0 to 1 or w/e
[12:05] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox thanks agin, i try, cos i dont have anyother choice like pressing. :)
[12:05] <NthDegree> then it can boot Windows by default if that is what you want :|
[12:06] <Ash-Fox> rahmetli, it's a shame I can't figure out how to replicate that bug.
[12:06] <cojy> yes..is that what I want
[12:06] <cojy> ok...I'll try
[12:07] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox uninstall sun-java-bin
[12:07] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox then reinstall
[12:07] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox :)
[12:07] <Jucato> just kill Adept and install/update sun java from Konsole
[12:07] <Ash-Fox> rahmetli, yeah, I don't have that problem when I retried.
[12:08] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox i have did the same update 5 times before asking here,the problem replicated
[12:09] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox now i love dpkg --configure -a
[12:09] <Ash-Fox> rahmetli, the problem is, you can replicate it, but I can't. If I can't replicate it, how will I file a accurate bug report on how to replicate it? :)
[12:10] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox how can i report it?
[12:11] <Ash-Fox> rahmetli, main bug reports for adept should be done using KDE's bugzilla
[12:11] <Ash-Fox> http://bugs.kde.org/
[12:11] <Jucato> I think it has already been filed. something about Adept and ncurses
[12:12] <Ash-Fox> Jucato, yet I get the problem only some of the time?
[12:12] <Ash-Fox> Seems something a bit more than ncurses.
[12:12] <Jucato> Ash-Fox: this has been confirmed by many many people (Sun Java and VMWare)
[12:12] <Jucato> i'm not sure if it's ncurses exactly, though
[12:15] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox i have killed the second "yes no screen" and it continued.NOw system is up to date
[12:15] <kamikaze_j> for mp, avi, dix packet?
[12:15] <Ash-Fox> rahmetli, alrighty :)
[12:15] <Ash-Fox> !mp3
[12:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:16] <rahmetli> Ash-Fox thanx again :)
[12:16] <nomadsoul> is there something that can explain me how the ubuntu init system works?
[12:17] <octan> !init.d
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about init.d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <octan> !init
[12:17] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[12:19] <nomadsoul> cool
[12:20] <patrick_> Does anybody know a forum or FAQ on Ubuntu in combination with the new Dell XPS M1710 laptop?
[12:21] <octan> patrick_, whats the problem?
[12:23] <patrick_> The build in subwoofer is not working and Nvidia card is not willing to work, I have googled and googled and tried like 5/6 times but system crashes on startup when Nvidia card is installed and xorg config nv renamed to nvidia...
[12:23] <Torched> 5/6?
[12:23] <Torched> that's not even a whole time
[12:23] <patrick_> lol
[12:23] <patrick_> 5 to 6 times...
[12:24] <Torched> ohh
[12:24] <patrick_> ;)
[12:24] <octan> patrick_, did you install the nvidia driver ?
[12:25] <patrick_> I did, apt-get the nvidia drivers...
[12:25] <octan> the modules too?
[12:25] <octan> restricted
[12:26] <patrick_> Well, let me search for that document I used...
[12:26] <patrick_> It shows all I did.
[12:26] <patrick_> One moment please.
[12:27] <octan> if you didnt use this,, use it
[12:27] <octan> !nvidia
[12:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:28] <nomadsoul> octan: is there a directory where i can found the configuration files for the init scripts?
[12:28] <patrick_> You know your card model begins with "4", "FX", or "6". <-- This might be the problem...
[12:28] <patrick_> It is a mobile... Uhm, what was the name again :/
[12:28] <octan> nomadsoul yes, usaly /etc :P
[12:29] <patrick_> One sec..
[12:29] <nomadsoul> octan: tnx
[12:29] <octan> nomadsoul, or look in the init script where it looks for the config files
[12:30] <marinos> helo all
[12:31] <patrick_> Nvidia GeForce 7900 Go is the name...
[12:31] <patrick_> Hi Marinos
[12:31] <patrick_> :D
[12:32] <patrick_> Octan, could that be the prob? It is a 'go'
[12:33] <octan> is your card in this list ?
[12:33] <octan> http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_18897.html
[12:34] <patrick_> GeForce Go 7900 GTX   0x0299 must be it...
[12:34] <patrick_> Yes it is in the list.
[12:34] <octan> alright
[12:34] <octan> thats good
[12:35] <kamikaze_j> alguien habla espaol?
[12:35] <patrick_> So, it should work... I am doing something wrong here.
[12:35] <patrick_> habla some English?
[12:35] <patrick_> :D
[12:35] <kamikaze_j> :D
[12:35] <Jucato> !es
[12:35] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:35] <patrick_> :D
[12:36] <kamikaze_j> i'm looking for a good source list in spanish
[12:36] <patrick_> Good, man... Linux for human beings, even habla Espanol... I love it.
[12:36] <patrick_> :D
[12:36] <kamikaze_j> haha
[12:37] <kamikaze_j> in kubuntu-es... bad...
[12:37] <kamikaze_j> xD
[12:40] <octan> patrick_, follow this guide
[12:40] <octan> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[12:40] <patrick_> Okay, thanks a lot!
[12:40] <octan> or http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/
[12:40] <octan> :)
[12:50] <buzzy> people i have installed soundconverter but it does not start!!! why? (i m on kubuntu and it's based on gnome: is this the problem?)
[12:53] <patrick_> Octan, you are the man! I just started with the Nvidia logo... :) Wheey!
[12:53] <MenZa> :D
[12:53] <octan> :)
[12:54] <octan> great :)
[12:54] <patrick_> Thanks a lot man!
[12:54] <octan> np
[12:54] <patrick_> I was getting worried about this problem... But that is fixed now.
[12:54] <octan> :)
[12:54] <patrick_> Only one thing remains :(
[12:54] <octan> you subwoofer ?
[12:54] <patrick_> The build in subwoofer yeah
[12:55] <patrick_> I googled it but no luck on it.
[12:55] <octan> is that using a nvidia sound card ?
[12:55] <patrick_> No, erhm...
[12:55] <patrick_> Let me see.
[12:56] <octan> hmm you got a builtin subwoofer in you pc ?
[12:56] <patrick_> Yes :D
[12:56] <octan> litteart inside the pc ?
[12:56] <octan> ohmy
[12:56] <patrick_> I have that new Dell XPS M1710 gaming laptop ;)
[12:57] <octan> you'll be gettiing a shaken hard driver after a while :P
[12:58] <patrick_> lol
[12:58] <patrick_> I have a problem, I cant find the correct info on the Dell's homepage, I will get my manual to search for the correct hardware.
[12:59] <patrick_> One sec please...
[12:59] <kamikaze_j> xgl in kubuntu?
[12:59] <octan> yes
[01:00] <octan>  #ubuntu-xgl
[01:00] <kamikaze_j> ok tanks
[01:00] <kutan> Woah there's actually an op here.
[01:00] <kutan> Never seen that before
[01:01] <kutan> Anyway
[01:01] <kutan> Can someone help me with an error I get while trying to install an application?
[01:01] <NthDegree> Hobbsee is an OP in here afaik
[01:01] <NthDegree> sure :)
[01:02] <patrick_> Hmm, nice manual... It has NO detail on what soundcard it uses... :/
[01:02] <patrick_> I'll google it.
[01:02] <octan> check this out
[01:02] <octan> http://iaindb.customer.netspace.net.au/linux-9100-audio.html
[01:02] <kutan> When I run the configure file, I get this error, "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"
[01:02] <NthDegree> patrick_: blooming hell
[01:02] <NthDegree> patrick_: sudo lspci
[01:02] <kutan> That's happened to me a bunch of times but I still have no idea how to fix it
[01:03] <NthDegree> kutan: install the X development libraries
[01:03] <Jucato> kutan: try installing xorg-dev?
[01:03] <patrick_> blooming hell? :|
[01:03] <patrick_> Hell that sounds bad!
[01:04] <Hobbsee> NthDegree: indeed.  what's up?
[01:04] <NthDegree> patrick_: try lspci -v for your sound card lool patrick_
[01:04] <NthDegree> nothing much :)
[01:04] <NthDegree> someon thought there was no OPers in here
[01:05] <NthDegree> hehehe
[01:05] <octan> patrick_, lspci -v |grep Multimedia
[01:05] <Jucato> show off :P
[01:05] <Hobbsee> gone.
[01:05] <Jucato> *** Hobbsee takes channel operator privileges from Riddell. <--- lol
[01:05] <NthDegree> @lart Hobbsee 28
[01:05] <NthDegree> @pity Hobbsee 28
[01:06] <NthDegree> oops no ubugtu jokes in here I guess :p
[01:06] <patrick_> Hmm... I do not see any soundcard in the list that apeared after that command.
[01:06] <Hobbsee> Jucato: :P
[01:06] <Jucato> yep no Ubugtu commands :)
[01:06] <NthDegree> patrick_: look for Sound Controller
[01:06] <NthDegree> patrick_: or Multimedia
[01:07] <octan> patrick_, look for something like this
[01:07] <octan> root@Nuxil:/etc# lspci -v |grep Multimedia
[01:07] <octan> 0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a1)
[01:07] <octan> me all nvidia :)
[01:08] <patrick_> Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[01:08] <octan> yea
[01:08] <patrick_> :/ Is that it?
[01:08] <octan> yes
[01:08] <NthDegree> yes I believe so
[01:08] <patrick_> So it should work I guess...
[01:08] <octan> a inter 82801G chip
[01:08] <NthDegree> intel*
[01:09] <octan> bleh i like to type it wrong
[01:09] <octan> :P
[01:09] <octan> he a girl?
[01:10] <octan> hack into her webcam.. :P
[01:10] <kamikaze_j> :D
[01:10] <NthDegree> sometimes I just wish................ lol
[01:10] <kamikaze_j> ................
[01:10] <Hobbsee> hah
[01:10] <Hobbsee> dream on
[01:10] <Jucato> Hobbsee's definitely a she
[01:10] <patrick_> Okay, so I must search for linux installation files on this Intel soundcard... Google, here I come.
[01:10] <Jucato> a very very VERY scary "she"
[01:10] <patrick_> Or... Other tips?
[01:11] <NthDegree> I all of a sudden took interest when I worked out that fact Jucato :p
[01:11] <Jucato> lol
[01:11] <Jucato> ph34r Hobbsee's whip!
[01:12] <Hobbsee> heh
[01:12] <Jucato> aw.. she left.. :(
[01:12] <octan> patrick_, the last link i gave you?
[01:13] <octan> its the same chip
[01:14] <octan> http://iaindb.customer.netspace.net.au/linux-9100-audio.html
[01:14] <sF|Xemanth> whats the roadmap for edgy ?
[01:14] <sF|Xemanth> wheres*
[01:14] <MenZa> !roadmap
[01:14] <patrick_> Oh...
[01:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about roadmap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:14] <MenZa> hmm
[01:14] <MenZa> !schedule
[01:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[01:15] <NthDegree> !edgy
[01:15] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[01:15] <NthDegree> oops :$
[01:15] <MenZa> :d
[01:15] <MenZa> :D*
[01:16] <Jucato> MenZa: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[01:16] <kutan> okay the X problem is fixed
[01:16] <kutan> I have a new one now
[01:16] <sF|Xemanth> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule <- this is ough
[01:16] <MenZa> Jucato: :o
[01:16] <sF|Xemanth> enough*
[01:16] <kutan> "checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!"
[01:16] <kutan> I don't know what package to install
[01:16] <Ash-Fox> NO, Not a kernel freeze
[01:17] <sF|Xemanth> i hope they don't put to final edgy 2.6.18 that would be a catastroph
[01:17] <Ash-Fox> Edgy is going to make me really happy.
[01:18] <Ash-Fox> I wonder if I should upgrade or reinstall though.
[01:18] <sF|Xemanth> edgy not doing me atm happy
[01:18] <sF|Xemanth> :|
[01:18] <Ash-Fox> Oh?
[01:18] <kutan> Anyone?
[01:19] <sF|Xemanth> kernel and string freeze was yesterday, what does that exactly mean
[01:19] <sF|Xemanth> Ash-Fox: ndiswrapper is screwing with me :| and i can't get fglrx working properly
[01:20] <patrick_> Ahyeah... look at these GL screensavers! lol
[01:20] <flake> didn't work, auto eth1 disconnected me
[01:20] <flake> on boot
[01:20] <patrick_> ...See you all again soon, thanks for the help so far. Octan, special thanks to you! Laterrr...
[01:20] <Ash-Fox> sF|Xemanth, blah :/ (thankfully I don't need either of those)
[01:21] <octan> cya
[01:27] <octan> http://album.sautret.org/800_divers/500_Linux%20Girls/lls25_Gd.jpg.29.html
[01:27] <octan> :D
[01:31] <Arlington> is it possible to disable the diskscan that is performed during startup?
[01:31] <Dr_willis> you can use the tune2fs tool to set the ## or mounts triggeed it to very high.
[01:31] <Dr_willis> or perhaps disable totally.
[01:31] <Dr_willis> I normally set it Higher, and to a different # for my differnt drives.
[01:32] <Dr_willis> that way not all get scanned at once on the 30th reboot
[01:32] <Arlington> some of my windows drives have errors that the discscaner dosn't check but states att every boot and it takes alot of time during the boot.
[01:33] <Arlington> what is tune2fs?
[01:36] <Arlington> Dr_willis: please explain!
[01:36] <Dr_willis> tune2fs  -  adjust  tunable  filesystem  parameters  on
[01:36] <Dr_willis>        ext2/ext3 filesystems
[01:36] <Dr_willis> its a command. :)
[01:37] <Dr_willis> windows drives shouldent be getting checked at all
[01:37] <chetan> hi.. i need to install a version of kubuntu for doing development work on apache modules.. can someone please suggest a version? (i'd prefer having kde 3.5.4)
[01:37] <chetan> are the beta's stable?
[01:37] <Dr_willis> check your fstab entry for them
[01:38] <marinos> join #sun
[01:38] <Arlington> how do i check my fstab entry?
[01:38] <Dr_willis> 3.5.4 is in testing. with the right repos. right now 3.5.2 is the current. , not bothered with the3.5.4  on this machine - they seemed to work. but  i dident mess with them here.
[01:38] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[01:38] <Dr_willis> look at /etc/fstab file
[01:39] <Dr_willis> mine (for ntfs) -->  /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[01:41] <rampage>  how to run i386 package on x64 machine i have havin an error
[01:41] <rampage>  plz help
[01:41] <rampage>  bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[01:42] <rampage>  command = dpkg --force-architecture<op.deb>
[01:42] <Arlington> rampage:  there is a guide on the net dunno where exactly. it would be easier to download the 386 version of kubuntu though. no need to use x64 version when there is virtually no software for it...
[01:43] <rampage>  i downloaded opera i386
[01:43] <rampage>  but cant install it
[01:43] <rampage>  havin syntax error
[01:43] <rampage>  plz read above to see error
[01:44] <octan> rampage, opera? it suxz. get firefox 2 beta instead :)
[01:44] <rampage>  still i want to learn to install i386 package
[01:44] <Arlington> search the kubuntu forums!
[01:45] <Arlington> !kubuntuforums
[01:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntuforums - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:46] <Dr_willis> You want to run 32bit programs/packages on a 64bit ubuntu install?
[01:46] <rampage>  yea
[01:47] <rampage>  i386 opera on x64 machine and os ^_^
[01:48] <wildchild> !IDE
[01:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about IDE - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:49] <Dr_willis> ya got to do some chrooting for that to work
[01:49] <Dr_willis> or jailing.. i forget :P
[01:49] <octan> dchroot :P
[01:49] <Dr_willis> I always just run 32bit disrtos
[01:50] <octan> yaya
[01:50] <octan> netsplit
[01:50] <davelondon> hi all, as anyone got the openberg ebook extension to work in firefox
[01:50] <octan> rampage,
[01:50] <octan> you say your on a 64 bit system ? right?
[01:50] <octan> rampage, ?
[01:51] <davelondon> hi all, as anyone got the openberg ebook extension to work in firefox
[01:51] <octan> rampage, ?
[01:51] <octan> rampage, 64 bit you have?
[01:53] <rampage> yea
[01:53] <octan> rampage, if your on a 64 bit system all you need to do is install this stuff
[01:53] <octan> and you dont have to jail to 32 bit system
[01:53] <octan> ia32-libs
[01:53] <rampage>  @octan i have 64 machine
[01:53] <octan> linux32
[01:53] <rampage>  i have to download and install it
[01:54] <rampage>  thses 2 ia32-libs and linux32
[01:54] <rampage>  ??
[01:54] <octan> alright
[01:54] <octan> i have moe
[01:54] <octan> and i tryed the opera i386 file
[01:54] <octan> and it works here
[01:54] <rampage> how
[01:54] <rampage> tell me
[01:55] <octan> try install this stuff
[01:55] <bobesponja> hey
[01:55] <octan> libc6-i386
[01:55] <rampage> ...
[01:55] <rampage> ok
[01:55] <rampage> i am on it
[01:56] <octan> lib32z1
[01:56] <octan> lib32stdc++6
[01:56] <octan> lib32objc1
[01:56] <rampage> i am on it
[01:57] <octan> (lib32gfortan) maybe,, i got it installed
[01:57] <octan> **lib32gfortan0
[01:57] <octan> lib32gcj6
[01:57] <octan> lib32gcc1
[01:58] <octan> lib32g2c0
[01:58] <|mikael|> test
[01:58] <octan> lib32-libs-sdl
[01:59] <octan> i got some few more .. but thats like java and other stuff
[01:59] <davelondon> ok anyone know a good ebook reader
[02:01] <abattoir> davelondon: what sort of ebooks? pdf? chm?
[02:01] <octan> ia32-libs-gtk
[02:02] <rampage> cannot find  lib32-libs-sdl @ octan
[02:02] <octan> oh
[02:03] <davelondon> abattoir, I get a bit confused with the ebook stuff, I have openberg for firefox, but if its pdf or text you can use konquror or a text editor-what's the ebook reader do?
[02:03] <rampage> **lib32gfortan0 and these to @octan
[02:03] <abattoir> davelondon: now you are confusing me ;)
[02:03] <octan> lib32gfortan0
[02:04] <octan> and ia32-libs-sdl
[02:04] <rampage> nope i cant find them
[02:04] <abattoir> davelondon: if you are looking for a multi-format reader, i'm not aware of one(there will be okular for KDE4, but nothing i know of for KDE3)
[02:04] <rampage> @octan
[02:04] <octan> hmm
[02:04] <octan> your missing a repo?
[02:05] <octan> hmm
[02:05] <octan> pt-cache show ia32-libs-sdl
[02:05] <rampage> i cant find ia32-libs-sdl
[02:05] <octan> Package: ia32-libs-sdl
[02:05] <octan> Priority: optional
[02:05] <octan> Section: universe/libs
[02:05] <davelondon> abattoir, I have pdf and text ebooks but what use is an ebook reader if other apps read them all ready?-I have the openberg ebook extension for firefox and it won't load any ebooks I have tried
[02:05] <octan> its in universe
[02:05] <octan> rampage, are you shure you typing it correctly ?
[02:05] <octan> o*sure
[02:05] <rampage> yup
[02:05] <abattoir> davelondon: aah, for that i think you'd need to ask the author of the extension ;) (unless i still am not getting what you mean)
[02:06] <rampage> cutting
[02:06] <rampage> paste
[02:06] <octan> ok.. i'll paste my source.list in your pm ?
[02:06] <octan> your missing a repo.--
[02:06] <rampage> ok plz
[02:07] <octan> rampage have you registrert you nick name?
[02:07] <davelondon> abattoir, I'm just puzzled as to why use an ebook client when pdf & txt can be read in standard apps and I'm emailing the openberg developer as even their testbook will not load
[02:07] <octan>  rampage in xchat do.. /msg NickServ REGISTER
[02:08] <rampage> ok
[02:09] <abattoir> davelondon: ok, i get it, but there are different formats in which ebooks are distributed, so an ideal 'ebook reader' would be expected to read the majority of those formats, but i guess, its best to ask the devs ;)
[02:09] <raul12> ok
[02:09] <raul12> yup i am there
[02:09] <octan> raul12, ok
[02:09] <raul12> i can see u octane
[02:10] <raul12> but i cant message
[02:11] <octan> did you see my flood now?
[02:11] <raul12> ok
[02:12] <raul12> yup
[02:12] <raul12> why cant i pm u ??
[02:12] <octan> ? i dont know
[02:12] <octan> did you see my text
[02:13] <BuZzY> i have installed lame (by apt-get) but is not latest version, how can i get it to latest one?
[02:16] <raul12> YUP
[02:16] <raul12> I DID
[02:16] <raul12> @OCTAN
[02:19] <ccc> raul12: you have to register to send pms
[02:20] <raul12> yup
[02:20] <raul12> i think
[02:20] <ccc> raul12: /msg nickserv help register
[02:20] <raul12> i couldnt pm
[02:21] <raul12> can any 1 pm plz i want see if my pm works
[02:22] <raul12> 505]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[02:22] <raul12> these is popping up
[02:22] <Arepie> how can i check what was my cd rom was?? ls cd ?
[02:22] <ccc> raul12: yes. like i said, you have to register. that's exactly what it says too.
[02:25] <mhterres> hey guys
[02:26] <mhterres> 2 friends of mine have a problem with KDE 3.5.4 from Kubuntu packages
[02:26] <mhterres> since they upgrade their laptops, everytime they boot the system, the KDE wizard opens
[02:27] <mhterres> how can we stop that ???
[02:27] <mhterres> :-)
[02:27] <mhterres> it's very annoying
[02:27] <octan> ahah
[02:27] <octan> i know
[02:28] <mhterres> any ideas ?
[02:28] <octan> yes
[02:28] <octan> you need to edit this file
[02:28] <BuZzY> how can i get the codec of an audi o file?
[02:28] <BuZzY> how can i get the codec of an audi o file?
[02:28] <octan> ~/.kde/share/config/kpersonalizerrc
[02:28] <octan> put this at the bottom
[02:29] <octan> [General] 
[02:29] <octan> FirstLogin=false
[02:29] <mhterres> hmmm, ok
[02:29] <mhterres> it's a bug in the packages ???
[02:29] <octan> its a known bug
[02:30] <mhterres> hmmmmmm
[02:30] <mhterres> but it not happens in all machines
[02:30] <octan> mhterres, dont worry about tit
[02:30] <mhterres> octan: no, I'm not worry, just curious
[02:30] <KDEfanboy> BuZzY: mplayer -identify -frames 0 FILENAME 2>&1 | grep CODEC
[02:31] <octan> just do as i tell you and you get rid of it :P
[02:32] <KDEfanboy> mplyaer docs should match codec aliases to type, #mplayer
[02:32] <BuZzY> KDEfanboy, "mad"
[02:32] <BuZzY> u know it?
[02:33] <hyper> hiya, does kubuntu edgy install a firewall by default or block ports?
[02:34] <octan> hyper just therst that
[02:34] <octan> iptables -L -v -n
[02:34] <octan> see what it says
[02:34] <octan> *test
[02:34] <KDEfanboy> BuZzY: think it's http://www.underbit.com/products/mad/ . play the file with mplayer from the console to quickly see which type
[02:34] <mhterres> octan: thanks, I'll try :-D
[02:34] <raul12>  @octan how do u know what lib files needed for installing i386 software ??
[02:34] <hyper> octan: Just returns a bunch of errors :)
[02:35] <raul12>  is there some kind of command ??
[02:35] <hyper> octan: had to run it as sudo ^^
[02:35] <octan> raul12, i dont remember
[02:35] <octan> hybrid_, offcource
[02:35] <raul12>  i386 opera
[02:36] <raul12>  x64 machine
[02:36] <raul12>  remember ??
[02:36] <hyper> octan:  http://www.phpfi.com/160814
[02:36] <pwnbre> hello
[02:36] <octan> raul12, let me send you something
[02:36] <raul12> ok
[02:36] <pwnbre> anyone that're swedish in here?
[02:36] <octan> hyper, you got no firewall :P
[02:36] <octan> Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 5 packets, 233 bytes)
[02:37] <hyper> octan: What might then be the reason that I can't ssh into my computer from another one?
[02:37] <raul12>  any good fire wall 4 linux ??
[02:37] <Chousuke> iptables :)
[02:37] <octan> hyper ssh is not installed :P or configured
[02:38] <octan> raul12, yea your head :P and build one with ipttables
[02:38] <raul12>  any good fire wall 4 linux ??
[02:38] <Chousuke> raul12: I already answered ;P
[02:38] <Chousuke> raul12: It's pretty difficult to configure though. You had better download some configuration utility for it like Firestarter.
[02:38] <octan> bleh
[02:39] <octan> raul12, accept my file transfere
[02:39] <raul12> ok
[02:39] <raul12> i did
[02:39] <raul12> @octan
[02:39] <octan> its just waiting here
[02:39] <hyper> octan: I can on my computer ssh in my computer:   ssh hyper@localhost... that works... btw, for my network setup.   http://www.phpfi.com/160817
[02:39] <raul12> plz resend
[02:40] <raul12> @octan
[02:40] <raul12> i have opera.tar.zip
[02:40] <raul12> file
[02:40] <octan> hyper, check that the sshd deamon is running on the other machine
[02:40] <raul12> @octan
[02:41] <octan> raul12 wait.. i'll put it on my ftp
[02:41] <raul12> i have these filke
[02:41] <raul12> i have opera
[02:41] <raul12> tar.zip
[02:41] <hyper> octan: the other machine is a winxp machine at work and I used putty there... I can use putty to connect to my rented webserver or other computers... but not to this one somehow...
[02:42] <octan> raul12, did you see my text in pm?
[02:42] <raul12> yea
[02:42] <octan> hyper, i dont know much about windows sorry
[02:43] <raul12> @octan plz send  lib32gfortan0
[02:43] <raul12> i have opera.tar.zip file which u send me
[02:44] <hyper> octan: Well, with putty I can connect to other servers/computers by ssh so it should work fine from there...
[02:44] <octan> raul12, extract it
[02:44] <hyper> octan: is only port 22 (tcp) used for ssh or do I need to forward also another one?
[02:44] <raul12>  did
[02:44] <octan> hyper, wait a bit
[02:44] <octan> raul12, open cli
[02:44] <raul12>  i also intalled it but no opera executables
[02:44] <octan> cd /path/to/opera
[02:45] <octan> the file you extracted
[02:45] <raul12>  y
[02:45] <octan> cd bin
[02:45] <hyper> *reboot*
[02:45] <octan> now
[02:45] <octan> what does ./opera say
[02:45] <octan> maybe you need to chmod 755 opera
[02:45] <octan> then ./opera
[02:46] <raul12>  where type that
[02:46] <raul12>  in bin folder
[02:46] <octan> open konsole
[02:46] <raul12>  y
[02:46] <octan> and cd to opera
[02:46] <raul12>  opned
[02:46] <octan> you see bin dir?
[02:46] <octan> cd bin
[02:47] <raul12>  w8
[02:49] <th0rben> does anyone know how to access arbitrary disc partitions via the system:/media URI? in particular, i want to be able to control lvm volumes via konqueror
[02:49] <raul12>  yea i see
[02:49] <raul12>  then what
[02:49] <octan> chmod 755 opera
[02:49] <octan> ./opera
[02:49] <octan> what does it do?
[02:50] <Chousuke> Why are you installing opera like that? There's a Debian package that works :/
[02:50] <raul12>  error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:50] <hyper> octan: back again
[02:50] <raul12> @octan
[02:50] <octan> raul12, ok you see what you are missing now,, go install it
[02:51] <raul12> ok
[02:52] <octan> hybrid_, sorry.. i dont know how you connect from linux ssh to windows putty ssh.. i dont mess with windows anymore :P thouse that are long gone :)
[02:53] <octan> Chousuke yes but he could not get it to work..
[02:53] <hyper> octan: No, I want to connect from putty (windows ssh client) to my computer but my computer refuses everything... could you try whether you actually get to the password screen?
[02:54] <octan> hybrid_, is this ps behind a firewall ?
[02:54] <raul12> libqt-mt.so.3 cant find these file
[02:54] <octan> gt
[02:54] <octan> gt3
[02:54] <octan> erm
[02:54] <octan> qt3 stuff
[02:54] <raul12>  libqt-mt.so.3
[02:55] <KDEfanboy> !qt
[02:55] <ubotu> qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and a lot of other applications. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package.
[02:55] <_lapset_> 
[02:55] <hyper> octan: we just looked before and you said there is no firewall... and I didn't install anything else
[02:55] <_lapset_> she gay
[02:55] <mhterres> octan: Works !!!! Thanks !!!
[02:55] <octan> np
[02:55] <raul12>  plz help i cant find  libqt-mt.so.3
[02:56] <octan> raul12, libqt-mt
[02:56] <octan> erm
[02:56] <t_> oottte kaiikki ihan vitun homo
[02:56] <octan> raul12, libqt3-mt
[02:56] <raul12>  for then .so.3 stand ???
[02:56] <octan> dont look at that
[02:56] <octan> look at the main name
[02:57] <octan> hybrid_, be sure the sshd deamon is running
[02:57] <sF|Xemanth> lol t_
[02:57] <octan> ssh client != server
[02:57] <raul12>  well i have it still can install opera
[02:57] <hyper> octan: on my computer I can login myself through ssh "ssh hyper@localhost"... but when I try from outside it won't work
[02:58] <octan> ssh = clent side.. sshd = server side :P
[02:58] <raul12>  @octan
[02:58] <octan> hmm
[02:58] <hyper> hyper@hyper-linux:~$ ps aux | grep sshd
[02:58] <hyper> root      4631  0.0  0.1   4944  1052 ?        Ss   14:48   0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
[02:59] <octan> are you trying to log in as root? maybe you disables that
[02:59] <raul12>  well i cant install opera
[02:59] <hyper> octan: well, I don't even get a message from outside... just a time out
[03:00] <octan> hybrid_, is this pc behind a router ?
[03:00] <hyper> octan: same goes for ftp.... however   http works
[03:00] <hyper> octan: it's behind a router
[03:00] <octan> aha
[03:00] <hyper> octan: here's the info.   http://www.phpfi.com/160817
[03:00] <octan> well you need to forward on the router in that case
[03:01] <octan> hybrid_, is it a linux router ?
[03:01] <hyper> octan: No, it's not
[03:01] <raul12>  @octan i cant install opera
[03:01] <octan> anyway. you meed to setup forwad on the router
[03:01] <raul12>  the lib file is already installed
[03:01] <hyper> however ftp port forwarding while I still had windows here worked fine... now it refuses to do that... however port 80 works just fine
[03:02] <hyper> octan: have a look at that url I send you.. it's a pastebin.... there you see the port forwards
[03:02] <octan> ok
[03:02] <hyper> http://www.phpfi.com/160817
[03:03] <octan> thats on the linux box right?
[03:03] <octan> or router
[03:03] <hyper> octan: the ifconfig info is my linux box
[03:03] <hyper> octan: the second thing is the port forwarding on the router
[03:04] <octan> well.. as i said.. you need to forward on the router
[03:04] <hyper> octan: the third thing is that the no-ip.com service forwards to my correct public IP
[03:04] <hyper> octan: but it is forwarded on the router:  2.  22                22       10.0.0.5         UDP
[03:04] <hyper> oh, it's only udp
[03:05] <hyper> octan: 22 TCP is required, right? are any other port required for ssh?
[03:05] <octan> you need to tell the router to tell what port 22 to go to on your lan
[03:07] <octan> hybrid_, you can setup sshd to use any port you like
[03:07] <hyper> octan: I setup the forwardin on 22 UDP and not TCP
[03:07] <hyper> :)
[03:08] <octan> tcp man tcp
[03:09] <octan> hybrid_, life is so much simpler with a linux box as the router :)
[03:09] <hyper> octan: stupid me ^^ btw, is 22 tcp enough for ssh?
[03:09] <hyper> octan: well, no $$$ to buy one
[03:09] <octan> hybrid_, you only need like a p3 machine
[03:09] <octan> with 3 or 4 nics
[03:09] <hyper> well, can't afford that
[03:10] <hyper> at least not for the next half year
[03:10] <hyper> :(
[03:10] <octan>  hype make a sheme of you network
[03:11] <octan> hyper,
[03:11] <hyper_> back again :)
[03:11] <octan> make a sheme of you network
[03:11] <octan> like on my server it looks like this
[03:11] <octan> LAN:192.168.2.2 <--> eth0(ip:192.168.2.1)-| <-- nat --> eth2 <--> (Internet)
[03:11] <octan> LAN:192.168.1.2 <--> eth1(ip:192.168.1.1)-|
[03:11] <octan> it make things easyer
[03:12] <hyper_> ok :) thx
[03:12] <raul12>  well where can i download ip tables
[03:12] <octan> raul12, you already got it
[03:13] <octan> sudo iptables -L -v -n
[03:13] <bluch> !amsn
[03:13] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[03:13] <octan> hyper, also check the routing table
[03:14] <octan> route
[03:14] <octan> Kernel IP routing table
[03:14] <octan> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[03:14] <octan> 213.161.182.128 *               255.255.255.128 U     0      0        0 eth2
[03:14] <octan> 192.168.2.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth1
[03:14] <octan> 192.168.2.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
[03:14] <octan> 192.168.1.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
[03:14] <octan> 192.168.1.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth1
[03:14] <octan> default         skjervoy1-129.d 0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth2
[03:14] <octan>  ;) yaya
[03:14] <raul12> libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[03:14] <raul12> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.s
[03:15] <boguh> which window decoration does kubuntu use as default?
[03:15] <raul12> libjvm.so  libawt.so files
[03:15] <raul12> plz help
[03:15] <octan> still opera?
[03:15] <raul12> my opera wont install or run
[03:15] <raul12> yup
[03:15] <raul12> ^_^
[03:15] <octan> open synaptic
[03:15] <raul12> i am on kde
[03:15] <v3ctor> open adept
[03:15] <octan> and install everything that has a extention of 32
[03:16] <octan> *32
[03:16] <octan> 32*
[03:16] <raul12> ok
[03:16] <octan> synaptic is better that adept
[03:16] <octan> adept suxz
[03:16] <octan> its buggy
[03:16] <v3ctor> they both sux
[03:16] <raul12> so will i install synaptic
[03:16] <v3ctor> use aptitude
[03:16] <octan> well adept suxz more
[03:17] <raul12> aptitude some kind of package manager ??
[03:17] <hyper_> octan: why is synaptic better?
[03:17] <octan> v3ctor, if you install java with adept.. or flash.. good look :P cos you need to hit enter on some licence shit,, adpet doesnt allow you to do that,, synaptic does..
[03:17] <octan> and offcource apt-get install
[03:17] <v3ctor> aptitude (8)         - high-level interface to the package manager
[03:18] <v3ctor> octan: i don't use it...so no worries ;)
[03:18] <hyper_> octan: I did install java through adpet... and worked fine (after pressing the TAB) to be able to "press" Enter
[03:19] <raul12> i install java manually ^_^
[03:19] <raul12> lol
[03:19] <raul12> far better
[03:19] <Kubu> hi
[03:20] <raul12> @octan i cant find anything on *32 or 32*
[03:20] <raul12> @octan ???
[03:20] <octan> not i meant everything that has 32 in it
[03:21] <octan> beginning with or ends with
[03:21] <octan> or has lib32 in it
[03:21] <octan> raul12, i got abot everything installed :P
[03:22] <raul12> hmm
[03:22] <octan> it just works :P are you on amd 64 or intel 64 ?
[03:24] <raul12> amd64
[03:24] <raul12> and u ?
[03:25] <octan> amd64
[03:25] <raul12> amd far better
[03:25] <raul12> than intel
[03:26] <octan> i like to belive that too,, but its not the case with the new intel cup :(
[03:26] <octan> *cpu
[03:26] <raul12> i know
[03:26] <v3ctor> come back and talk when they have 8core chips out
[03:26] <raul12> amd will have solution
[03:26] <raul12> dun worry
[03:26] <octan> i dont.
[03:27] <raul12> ans their will be better than intel
[03:27] <octan> lets hope so. :)
[03:27] <raul12> ^_^
[03:27] <raul12> ok if prb comes in opera installation i will be BACK
[03:27] <raul12> ^_^
[03:37] <soulrider> !mount iso
[03:37] <ubotu> mount: Tools for mounting and manipulating filesystems. In component main, is required. Version 2.12r-4ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 149 kB, installed size 336 kB
[03:37] <soulrider> uhm
[03:37] <soulrider> !wiki
[03:37] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[03:39] <Hyper> !ubotu
[03:39] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[03:40] <buz> my samba is extra ordinarily slow
[03:40] <buz> copying files from an smbfs mount is about 1/3 of the speed i get with scp
[03:46] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[03:48] <wildchild> is it possible to format windows89 FAT32 partition ?
[03:48] <wildchild> windows98
[03:48] <wildchild> and how do I do that
[03:49] <octan> yes
[03:49] <octan> wildchild, you mean format it to fat32 ?
[03:50] <wildchild> well on HD is allready windows 98
[03:50] <wildchild> so it's FAT32
[03:50] <wildchild> and I wanna format it in to fat32
[03:50] <aftertaf> difference, apart from CAPS, being???
[03:50] <octan> mkfs.vfat /dev/hdx
[03:50] <gpeek> well, its possible to do mkfs.msdos
[03:50] <gpeek> or mkfs.vfat
[03:50] <octan> ;)
[03:51] <wildchild> so firs I have to put disk into my PC
[03:51] <octan> lol
[03:51] <Nick_> Hi all. Trying to setup NAT on my box but it's not natting the IP. It's forwarding the IP as tho it's bridged.
[03:51] <wildchild> and somehow mount dhis new disk
[03:51] <octan> i hope not that was a question
[03:51] <aftertaf> lol me2
[03:51] <wildchild> no it wasnt
[03:51] <wildchild> :)
[03:52] <Hyper> can Amarok actually stream the music it's playing?
[03:52] <octan> yes
[03:52] <Hyper> octan: nice :)
[03:52] <octan> Nick_, pherhaps i can help you
[03:52] <octan> i do exactly that
[03:53] <octan> masquerade ?
[03:53] <octan> iptables -t nat POSTROUTING -i ${UPLINK} -j MASQUERADE
[03:54] <HippyJim> hi all - anyone help a noob who can't login?
[03:54] <tomaz> hum?
[03:54] <tomaz> cant login?
[03:55] <tomaz> o.O"
[03:55] <tomaz> have you forgot your password?
[03:55] <octan> then setup a route table if you got more than 1 nic. and set the gateway's IP on the lan same as ip of bridge
[03:55] <HippyJim> not quite - using kubuntu breezy and when i enter password,screen ges black, then login screen comes up again
[03:55] <octan> Nick_, are you following ?
[03:56] <BluesKaj> wildchild, why do you want to reformat the windows 98 partition , it already is a FAT32 file system ?
[03:56] <octan> yahooo.. a big netsplit
[03:56] <BluesKaj> splittsville!
[03:57] <BluesKaj> wildchild, why do you want to reformat the windows 98 partition ? It already is a FAT32 file system .
[03:57] <octan> wildchild, yes? just delete everything on it
[03:57] <octan> delete c:/* or whatever it uses
[03:58] <octan> been years since i was in windows
[03:59] <octan> wb guys :P
[04:00] <BluesKaj> i get the impression wildchild wants to keep windows and setup a dualboot windows/linux system.
[04:00] <octan> screw windows
[04:00] <octan> more
[04:00] <doczico> waouhhhhh
[04:00] <Jucato> wb to the netsplitters
[04:00] <BluesKaj> wow...wtf is with this server ?
[04:00] <octan> damn about 1/2 the netwrok was down
[04:01] <Jucato> nah it's a common thing on IRC..
[04:01] <gpeek> why?
[04:01] <BluesKaj> my audio hobby network is down as well
[04:01] <octan> yea
[04:01] <doczico> somebody have amarok collection working ? i've a taglib error
[04:01] <BluesKaj> not mine but my fav
[04:02] <doczico> and dont find how to get it working :/
[04:02] <aftertaf> which version of amarok?
[04:02] <HippyJim> so, "community support" only applies to people who are "in"? i did an update, my system broke, i spent the last hour chasing round the net, the forums are down, and everyone in irc ignores me or takes the mickey. yup - ubuntu is ready for the desktop. thank god my wife's not here
[04:03] <zam> hi all
[04:03] <aftertaf> lol jim
[04:03] <Jucato> hm... wow
[04:03] <Nick_> Hey octan U said u may be able to help me?
[04:03] <doczico> aftertaf: lastone , 2:1.4.3-0ubuntu9
[04:03] <gpeek> why didnt' jim just post his question? Would have helped
[04:03] <BluesKaj> why didn't hippyjim just ask his question instead of complaining :)
[04:03] <octan> Nick_, yes maybe
[04:03] <Jucato> "I'm asking for free, volunteer support, and since you can't give it to me during the time that I demand it, you all suck..." ???
[04:04] <Tm_T> Jucato: smells like it
[04:04] <zam> i cant run any video using kaffeine case i need win32 codecs and libdvdcss how to install them ?
[04:04] <Jucato> oh well. :)
[04:04] <aftertaf> kde 354 353 ?
[04:04] <aftertaf> doczico: ^^^
[04:04] <Tm_T> Jucato: aye, he'll learn
[04:04] <octan> Nick_, you need to tell me about your setup
[04:05] <octan> im no mindreader
[04:05] <aftertaf> !restricted
[04:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:05] <aftertaf> zam: ^^^^^^^^
[04:05] <Nick_> zam: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[04:05] <Jucato> zam: you might want to look into the RestrictedFormats page linked above
[04:06] <Cyraq> is the beta way buggy, or is it usable?
[04:06] <aftertaf> Cyraq: rockin' :)
[04:06] <v3ctor> Cyraq: it is not too bad
[04:06] <gpeek> Cyraq: not many problems for me so far
[04:06] <doczico> aftertaf: 4:3.5.4-0ubuntu28
[04:06] <Cyraq> oh well.
[04:06] <Jucato> Cyraq: a bit usable. but there might still be some changes along the way until the final release
[04:06] <aftertaf> doczico: hmm me too. upping  to 353 now.
[04:06] <Cyraq> yay, 15kbps -_-
[04:06] <aftertaf> and amarok works fine
[04:07] <aftertaf> kde working great since edgy....
[04:07] <doczico> aftertaf: juste go back to kde 3.5.3 ?
[04:07] <aftertaf> nah. meant 3.5.5 :)
[04:07] <aftertaf> dorry
[04:07] <Jucato> Cyraq: well you better learn to wait a bit more :)
[04:07] <aftertaf> sorry
[04:07] <doczico> aftertaf: i've just installed kubuntu yesterday with the eggy 6.10 beta install cd
[04:07] <aftertaf> jeez im bad on keyboard today
[04:07] <Cyraq> eggy?
[04:08] <aftertaf> doczico: ahh. ive upgraded each time since hoary
[04:08] <tomaz> doc, the edgy is usable at this point?
[04:08] <tomaz> i'm willing to install here
[04:08] <aftertaf> doczico: have u updated since the cd install?
[04:08] <Cyraq> tomaz: so they say
[04:08] <doczico> aftertaf: how to get 3.5.5 ?? i dont have it in repository i think
[04:08] <Jucato> well there's a difference between "usable" and "completely stable"
[04:08] <aftertaf> true ^
[04:08] <Jucato> doczico: it's not available officially just yet
[04:08] <Jucato> heck it's not even officially released from KDE afaik
[04:08] <aftertaf> doczico: kubuntu.org packages....
[04:09] <Jucato> 3.5.5?
[04:09] <aftertaf> beta
[04:09] <BluesKaj> once kubuntu 6.10 is on official release , what's it going to be named ?
[04:09] <Jucato> BluesKaj: Kubuntu 6.10 :D
[04:09] <BluesKaj> ;0
[04:09] <doczico> aftertaf: which pkg are you using for kde ? kdebase-bin ?
[04:09] <aftertaf> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355/ edgy main
[04:09] <BluesKaj> ok what nick will it have ?
[04:09] <aftertaf> i was on deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/ dapper main
[04:09] <s-toned> Since my upgrade from breezy to dapper I've got problems with X: mga (and mga from Matrox too) won't work anymore, only vesa. Any hints?
[04:09] <Jucato> aftertaf: that's for Edgy. don't give it away for Dapper
[04:09] <doczico> so ok , no officilly , but on wich repository can i get it ?
[04:10] <Jucato> BluesKaj: it's already called Edgy Eft
[04:10] <tomaz> because the 3.5.5 is not ready yet
[04:10] <Nick_> octan, I have this box which need's to nat the network here to the wi-fi network which is on a bridge off a different nic on this machine. This box is letting other pc's on this network access the wifi without having a masqurading rule in iptables. But the access it get's is as tho it's on the wi-fi network. If I connect to a box on the wi-fi it see's the network IP (192.168.2.1) instead of the IP of the server's wi-fi nic (10.11.0.10)
[04:10] <doczico> yeah thx aftertaf :)
[04:10] <aftertaf> Jucato: which one? the kde-latest?
[04:10] <Jucato> aftertaf: KDE 3.5.5
[04:10] <tomaz> kde 3.5.5 is not ready
[04:10] <tomaz> is not even released
[04:10] <tomaz> =/
[04:10] <Jucato> it's not even officially out from KDE
[04:10] <aftertaf> he's on edgy
[04:11] <doczico> aftertaf: so i use the first one ?
[04:11] <Jucato> it's meant to be for testing
[04:11] <Jucato> even on Edgy it's not yet an official release
[04:11] <aftertaf> doczico: no use the 2nd one
[04:11] <doczico> ok but aftertaf you problem was the collection ? or just lauching amarok ?
[04:11] <Nick_> octan, It's as tho the connection is bridged instead of nat'ed
[04:11] <doczico> ok thx
[04:12] <Jucato> btw, the kde-latest in Dapper is still KDE 3.5.4
[04:12] <aftertaf> doczico: i never had a pb with amarok..... :)
[04:13] <aftertaf> Jucato: and for edgy it dont exist, right?
[04:13] <aftertaf> is 3.5.5 that unsure right now?
[04:13] <Jucato> aftertaf: yes. it's not even released yet
[04:14] <Jucato> it's there for testing purposes only.
[04:14] <doczico> so i ve problem with taglib in amarok .... i dont think to upgrade kde wil change anithing ...
[04:14] <doczico> anything
[04:14] <aftertaf> yeah i know..... but thats never worried me that much... if it breaks i load enlightenment :)
[04:14] <Jucato> doczico: what version of Amarok and KDE are you using?
[04:14] <doczico> i just want to build a collection with amarok ....
[04:14] <aftertaf> plus itll be out stale soon... they always release just after kubuntu 6 month.
[04:14] <Jucato> aftertaf: the problem is that it *might* worry others :)
[04:15] <doczico> amarok : 2:1.4.3-0ubuntu9 kde : 4:3.5.4-0ubuntu28
[04:15] <aftertaf> true.... i didnt realise it was still SO testing actually. I stopped my apt-gettage :)
[04:15] <octan> Nick_, i think you just can use route here
[04:15] <Jucato> doczico: please check if the dapper-backports repository is enabled. if it isn't, enable it then update
[04:16] <aftertaf> doczico: i have those same versions and its fine here :/
[04:16] <octan> route add -net IP netmask 255.255.255.0 dev XXX the bridges
[04:16] <doczico> wich version of taglib did you use ?
[04:16] <octan> on both sides
[04:17] <aftertaf> 1.4-4
[04:17] <doczico> ok jucato i'll test that
[04:18] <octan> Nick_, come to #octans
[04:18] <Jucato> I have libtag1c2a
[04:19] <doczico> Jucato: wich version ?
[04:19] <doczico> i've test to enable backports , but nothing to upgrade ....
[04:19] <Jucato> doczico: 1.4-4 from kubuntu.org repos.
[04:20] <Jucato> what's the exact error message that you get?
[04:22] <doczico> amarok stop building collection too much taglib errors ....
[04:22] <Jucato> hm...
[04:22] <doczico> and a list of mp3 and other files ...
[04:22] <Jucato> I think I've heard of that error before... let me try to recall
[04:23] <doczico> that would be great Jucato :D
[04:27] <tonky> hi
[04:27] <Jucato> doczico: what version of amarok again? (exact version?)
[04:27] <tonky> kann man kubuntu irgendwie ber die konsole installieren? dieser grafische mll lsst mich die platte nicht manuell bearbeiten
[04:28] <tonky> oh english, sorry
[04:28] <tonky> is it possible to install kubuntu via the console?
[04:28] <doczico> amarok : 2:1.4.3-0ubuntu9 kde : 4:3.5.4-0ubuntu28
[04:28] <doczico> tonky: what did you mean via the console ?
[04:29] <Jucato> doczico: where did you get that amarok version?
[04:29] <v3ctor> connected via serial
[04:29] <tonky> i booted the install cd into kde but the install app will not let me pertition my hdd as i want
[04:29] <oheard> tonky: try the alternate install CD, I think that uses the old ncurses installer.
[04:29] <v3ctor> headless install
[04:29] <doczico> Jucato: i've just installer kubuntu eggy 6.10 beta yesterday
[04:29] <tonky> hmm i don't have tme to download the alternate install cd
[04:29] <doczico> i think there ...
[04:29] <Jucato> doczico: oh you're on edgy... great... @_@
[04:29] <doczico> i used it
[04:30] <doczico> yes it is ncurses ...
[04:30] <oheard> tonky: partition your drives with a different program?
[04:30] <tonky> i can just delete the whole hdd....
[04:30] <Jucato> sorry I'm on Dapper :(
[04:30] <v3ctor> tonky: try using fdisk
[04:30] <doczico> Jucato: what's that smile ? good or bad ?
[04:30] <Jucato> bad
[04:30] <oheard> tonky: try the gparted livecd, it's only a few megs to download
[04:30] <doczico> niarf :/
[04:31] <tonky> i thought that here is a nongraphical installtool on the cd
[04:31] <doczico> Jucato: do you think i can downgrade trough the dapper version of amarok and taglib ?
[04:31] <Jucato> tonky: not on the Desktop CD
[04:31] <Jucato> doczico: probably not? I'm not exactly sure though
[04:31] <tonky> ok thank you very much im going to download the alternate cd... bye
[04:32] <v3ctor> the install cd does not have fsidk?
[04:32] <v3ctor> fdisk*
[04:32] <Jucato> it does.
[04:32] <doczico> ho seriously that sucks ..... gentooo powahhhhh
[04:32] <Jucato> it doesn't have a text based installer though
[04:32] <Jucato> doczico: I'm not (yet) familiar enough with edgy
[04:33] <v3ctor> you could use nongraphical parttiton toll then have installer leave parttitons as they are
[04:33] <doczico> i understand , no probleme
[04:34] <doczico> just i want my fucking amarok collection backkkkk
[04:34] <doczico> loooooooooool
[04:35] <BluesKaj> doczico.hewre is a list of reositories that you can add to your sources list to get the latest amarok offering  http://pastebin.ca/193034
[04:35] <BluesKaj> err repositories
[04:35] <Jucato> BluesKaj: he's having problems with the latest amarok update on Edgy
[04:36] <BluesKaj> ok , err sorry i couldn't help :(
[04:36] <Jucato> doczico: I'll it on vmware...
[04:38] <doczico> thx BluesKaj :) i'll test
[04:38] <BluesKaj> it's for dapper , doczico
[04:38] <oheard> Edgy isn't released yet.
[04:38] <doczico> arf ...
[04:38] <doczico> i've read , but after my reply ;p
[04:38] <Jucato> oheard: not the stable release. but beta has been released
[04:39] <oheard> I know.
[04:39] <oheard> :-)
[04:39] <BluesKaj> the stable release is supposed to be out on Oct 26
[04:39] <Jucato> what drink?
[04:39] <BluesKaj> too early for a drink here
[04:40] <Jucato> too late for one here
[04:40] <BluesKaj> hehe
[04:40] <BluesKaj> never too late , just early
[04:40] <Jucato> hah...
[04:41] <doczico> dooohh 20 days :/
[04:45] <Jucato> doczico: that's strange... I can still build collections in Edgy using that exact same version of amarok
[04:46] <BluesKaj> amarock is amarock i guess
[04:46] <BluesKaj> err amarok
[04:48] <doczico> yes but i'm think that come from my files ... but why ? i juste installed kubuntu in place of gentoo ... that's the same partition ...
[04:49] <Jucato> doczico: try switching what database you are using? from SQLite to MySQL?
[04:49] <doczico> mysql
[04:49] <BluesKaj> just heard reports of several irc nets being down this morn ....wonder what's happening...major denial of service attacks ?
[04:51] <bluch> !vlan
[04:51] <ubotu> vlan: user mode programs to enable VLANs on your ethernet devices. In component main, is extra. Version 1.9-1 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 132 kB
[04:56] <det_> where do i get a decent video player and preferably loads of codecs. i would like to use adept, but i fear this might end in some self-compiled mplayer
[04:57] <BluesKaj> what's wrong with mplayer ?
[04:57] <Jucato> decent player = Kaffeine. loads of codecs = libxine-extracodecs + w32codecs
[04:57] <Jucato> a good player would be VLC or MPlayer
[04:57] <det_> with the standard installation, i can only play mpegs and have no sound. movs and avis do not work
[04:58] <Jucato> det_: the standard installation doesn't have the codecs for proprietary media formats
[04:58] <det_> but adept doesn't offer them, does anyone have some of those extra package sources where i can get all this stuff comfortably?
[04:58] <Jucato> you just need to install libxine-extracodecs (from the repositories) and w32codecs (direct download)
[04:58] <Jucato> !mp3
[04:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:58] <Jucato> det_: read that part about RestrictedFormats
[04:59] <Jucato> det_: you need to enable "multiverse" to get libxine-extracodecs
[04:59] <Jucato> !multi
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <Jucato> !multiverse
[04:59] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:59] <Jucato> det_: this one on how to enable multiverse ^^^
[04:59] <det_> thanks Jucato, ubotu, bbl then :-)
[05:08] <det_> any nice howto about multimedia with a 64 bit system?
[05:09] <Jucato> aw... w32codecs will be a problem...
[05:09] <det_> yes, i read about a chroot environment
[05:09] <det_> but don't like to hack this all by myself...
[05:12] <Jucato> I'm not sure if Automatix or EasyUbuntu would make that easier (not sure if they work for 64-bit)
[05:13] <det_> a second kernel is not sufficient?
[05:14] <Jucato> hm.. probably a 32-bit kernel would be ok... I'm not really familiar with it
[05:17] <azzco> Hi I've got kubuntu installed but I wish to create a /home partion now. I've got the free space on HDD But how do I set ubuntu to recognise that partion as /home?
[05:19] <azzco> Do I need to make the /home folder extended or primary?
[05:19] <azzco> folder=partition
[05:20] <Jucato> azzco: either would do
[05:22] <azzco> Jucato: and ubuntu will recognise it right away? I think that I read something about that it should be mounted during creation of the partition...
[05:23] <_Shade_> is there any way to install kubuntu from an iso image ?
[05:23] <oheard> *sings*
[05:23] <oheard> _Shade_: in a virtual machine maybe...
[05:23] <azzco> _Shade_: I think that you'll have to burn it unless as stated being installed in a VM
[05:24] <Hyper> azzco: That's what I did (1) move home to home_old (2) create the dir "home" again (3) mount the new harddrive in there (4) move the contents of "home_old" back to "home" (5) edit fstab to mount permanently the new drive as /home (6) reboot and pray
[05:25] <azzco> =) THX Hyper... you don't know a link for a tutorial do you? couldn't find one myself I'm still searching though
[05:25] <_Shade_> well i could do it from windows using instlux project, but it doesn't support 6.10 yet
[05:26] <Hyper> azzco: for what part do you need help
[05:26] <oheard> _Shade_: you could install 6.06 with it then upgrade to 6.10... or wait until you have a blank CD and 6.10 is finished. :-)
[05:27] <azzco> Hyper: I'm not so sure about mounting right now
[05:27] <_Shade_> oheard unfortunately - i cant dist-upgrade, because my system crashes when i do so
[05:28] <oheard> _Shade_: maybe wait for 6.10 to be finished then? ;-)
[05:28] <azzco> _Shade_: are you trying to dist-upgrade to 6.10?
[05:28] <Hyper> azzco: you know what the new harddrive is called?
[05:28] <_Shade_> azzco yes
[05:28] <oheard> Fred.
[05:29] <azzco> Hyper: I'm creating a partion and I'm doing it ATM :)
[05:29] <oheard> Well I thought it was funny... _
[05:29] <_Shade_> azzco is it bad then?
[05:29] <azzco> _Shade_: stay with Ubuntu Dapper for now ;) (6.06)
[05:29] <_Shade_> ok i will
[05:30] <azzco> Hyper: I think that the new partion is called sda1
[05:31] <tk> hmmm, installing kde-desktop over ubuntu isnt quite as pleasing as just installing kubuntu :(
[05:31] <oheard> It never is. xD
[05:31] <det_> why doesn't amarok play anythin? kde is running alsa afaik, and the xine engine is configured to use alsa, but i don't hear a thing
[05:31] <azzco> Hyper: Maybe I should do this from liveCD? changing name on /home while using it isn't such a good idea right?
[05:31] <oheard> det_: turn up the volume?
[05:32] <Hyper> I did it while being in shell only
[05:32] <Hyper> brb
[05:32] <det_> oheard: i got system sounds loud enough...
[05:32] <oheard> det_: have you restarted Amarok since you got the codecs installed for it?
[05:32] <Jucato> det_: trying to play MP3's?
[05:33] <det_> i try to play mp3s, and amarok just skips through them...
[05:33] <oheard> !mp3
[05:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:33] <oheard> See the first link, after installing the package needed restart Amarok.
[05:33] <Jucato> det_: told you about "libxine-extracodecs" remember?
[05:34] <det_> Jucato: yes, but i can't install them on 64 bit
[05:34] <oheard> det_: also, Amarok stays in the systray, right click it and choose quit to close it fully.
[05:34] <Jucato> det_: yes you can.
[05:34] <Jucato> det_: w32codecs are the ones you can't
[05:35] <marvin__> hola
[05:36] <det_> Jucato: don't seem to have the right repository for those extracodecs...
[05:36] <oheard> !multiverse
[05:36] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:36] <marvin__> hay alguien que able esp
[05:36] <oheard> det_: see that link.
[05:36] <oheard> !es
[05:36] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:36] <Jucato> det_: I also told you about "multiverse" remember? :)
[05:37] <marvin__> ubuntu es
[05:38] <det_> Jucato yes, but this doesn't make any difference...
[05:38] <Jucato> det_: if you enabled the correct multiverse repo, and clicked on Fetch Updates before searching for libxine-extracodecs, it will make a difference
[05:39] <det_> damn, forgot to "apply changes"
[05:39] <oheard> xD
[05:39] <Jucato>  @_@
[05:40] <kutan> can someone help me fix this error when configuring an application?
[05:40] <kutan> "checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!"
[05:40] <Jucato> kutan: is kde-devel installed?
[05:40] <kutan> Hmmm I'll check
[05:40] <Jucato> not sure if that's the right package though :)
[05:42] <marvin__> hola luis
[05:42] <kutan> Hmmm installing it now but Jucato... Are you like your own walking library or something?
[05:43] <kutan> Seriously..
[05:43] <Jucato> kutan: lol
[05:43] <Jucato> just a coincidence :)
[05:44] <kutan> You're a genius, it worked.
[05:44] <kutan> Thanks :D
[05:45] <Jucato> hah smart guess  :)
[05:45] <oheard> :o
[05:46] <jtyler4> jucanto: what experience do you have with linux?
[05:47] <oheard> GNU+Linux*
[05:47] <Jucato> jtyler4: almost 10 months worth :)
[05:48] <jtyler4> cool.
[05:48] <jtyler4> jucato: are you in the industry before that?
[05:48] <Jucato> nope
[05:49] <jtyler4> jucato: so you've had theat problem yourself?
[05:50] <Jucato> I've had some, I've heard of them, or I've seen others solve them :)
[05:51] <jtyler4> jucato: I've been used something like 10 different distros since 97 when I got started. I was jsut curious
[05:51] <Jucato> aah... actually I haven't used other distros as much (yet)
[05:51] <Jucato> I've only used MEPIS for a few days. Ubuntu for 3 weeks (does that count?)
[05:52] <jtyler4> oheard: when a package is named something like -dev it is a development library and contains the shared libraries for compiling code or functionality of an app
[05:53] <oheard> I was a distro junkie for 5 years until I found (K)Ubuntu... no idea how many distros I used in that time...
[05:53] <jtyler4> Linux is pretty much linux.
[05:53] <Jucato> oh sorry I didn't notice oheard's "question"
[05:53] <oheard> jtyler4: I know about the -dev thing... I'm a developer myself... (not a Kubuntu developer though)
[05:53] <oheard> I make heavy use of development packages. :-)
[05:54] <jtyler4> There are many different philophies on how to setup initiate files or manage software
[05:54] <jtyler4> oheard seams like a classic username.
[05:55] <oheard> It is, my system username... I figured why waste time changing my IRC nick when there is a default that works. :-D
[05:56] <oheard> jtyler4: PMs are blocked until I register my nick... one sec...
[05:56] <jtyler4> ok
[05:58] <MasterEvilAce> anyone else's kubuntu usplash off-centered in EDGY?
[06:00] <kutan> okay I installed a program... how do I run it? :\
[06:00] <kutan> Usually I just type the name of the program in the command line but I guess that ain't the case
[06:01] <Dr_willis> depends on the program kulbir
[06:01] <Dr_willis> oops kutan
[06:01] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:02] <kulbir> Dr_willis: ?
[06:02] <damjan> where can I find compiz-core or is there any other way to install compiz on Dapper?
[06:02] <pl> mam problem z ubuntu
[06:02] <Dr_willis> kulbir,  typo. :P
[06:03] <Dr_willis> !compwiz
[06:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compwiz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:03] <Dr_willis> !xgl
[06:03] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:03] <kulbir> Dr_willis: K :)
[06:03] <pl> jak cos zainstalowac w ubuntu?
[06:04] <Jucato> kutan: what did you compile/install?
[06:04] <jtyler4> Evil: I've notived that my login screen uses a virtual sized desktop... menaing that the borders move the placement of login
[06:04] <kutan> "SolSeek"
[06:05] <kutan> Just a little program that shows satellite images of the sun. :x
[06:05] <pl> jest ktos z polski?
[06:05] <kutan> found it on kde-apps.org
[06:05] <oheard> !pl
[06:05] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[06:05] <oheard> *wonders if he got the language right*
[06:06] <Jucato> hm.. try running it from the command line? using the package/app name?
[06:06] <kutan> I tried
[06:06] <pl> a gdzie mam tego szukac?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> kutan,  fire up the package manager.. select the package.. see what files it installed
[06:07] <Jucato> kutan: what's the name of the app? (a link would be nice)
[06:07] <kutan> oh
[06:07] <kutan> heh sorry hold on
[06:07] <kutan> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=31311
[06:08] <Dr_willis> or use the apt:// tool :P
[06:08] <kutan> apt:// tool?
[06:08] <Jucato> Dr_willis: apt:/ :P
[06:09] <Jucato> kutan: tried typing "solseek"?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> apt:////////////////////////////
[06:09] <Dr_willis> :P
[06:09] <kutan> yes
[06:09] <kutan> it says command not found >_>
[06:09] <Dr_willis> !info solseek
[06:09] <ubotu> Package solseek does not exist in any distro I know
[06:09] <Dr_willis> package not found either :)
[06:09] <damjan> !info compiz
[06:09] <now3d> Hello, Could anyone tell me if there will be updated KDE 3.5.5 packages available for Kubuntu 6.06 please?
[06:09] <Jucato> hm...
[06:09] <ubotu> compiz: OpenGL composition manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.2-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 125 kB, installed size 424 kB
[06:09] <Jucato> now3d: none yet
[06:10] <damjan> !info compiz-core
[06:10] <ubotu> Package compiz-core does not exist in any distro I know
[06:11] <now3d> Juncato: Do you know if there is any plan to release packages for Kubuntu 6.06 ?
[06:12] <now3d> In Konqueror filemanager, when I press F9 my directory browser appears -- does anyone know the official name for this area of the window?
[06:13] <Jucato> now3d: Navigation Panel
[06:18] <kutan> Try compiling it for yourself Jucato?
[06:18] <kutan> Maybe it's just me
[06:18] <Jucato> err... sorry I don't have the time to  compile it myself :(
[06:18] <kutan> ah
[06:18] <kutan> okay
[06:18] <kutan> I see how it is.
[06:18] <kutan> I GET IT
[06:19] <kutan> lol I'll ask someone else.
[06:19] <Jucato> ??
[06:19] <now3d> Jucato: thx
[06:21] <tejinder> after the upgrade, my drivers are not mounted at boot automatically, why?
[06:21] <tejinder> drivers/drives
[06:23] <now3d> tejinder: mabye there is a bug or a fault with your drives, check your /etc/fstab file and see if they are marked "auto"
[06:25] <tejinder> now3d: it worked before the upgrade, and yes /etc/fstab has all those drives marked as auto. and also when i try to mount the drivers manually by clicking on storage devices in konqueror, it says an error occured
[06:25] <bluch> !Fuse
[06:25] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[06:25] <bluch> !fuseiso
[06:25] <ubotu> fuseiso: FUSE module to mount ISO filesystem images. In component universe, is optional. Version 20060107-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 13 kB, installed size 80 kB
[06:26] <Dink> !mdf
[06:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mdf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <now3d> tjinder: type: tail -f /var/log/messages   and then do the command again and see what it says
[06:26] <bluch> !mountiso
[06:26] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[06:27] <tejinder> now3d: does'nt say anything at all
[06:27] <Dink> bluch I tried that still wont do it :(
[06:27] <oheard> tejinder: did you upgrade to 6.10?
[06:27] <tejinder> oheard: yea
[06:27] <now3d> tejinder: in another window type: mount /media/foobar_mount   or what ever it is called, then look at the message log again
[06:27] <oheard> _
[06:28] <det_> any channel for 64bit issues?
[06:28] <Dink> i get the wrong fs type error
[06:28] <now3d> tejinder: type, "mount" and does it show any thing relavent to indicate a problem?
[06:28] <Dink> even tried mdf2iso and same thing
[06:29] <now3d> Dink: what is the problem..?
[06:29] <Dink> I cant mount a .mdf image
[06:29] <trappist> det_: this one
[06:30] <Dink> even tried mdf2iso to see if the iso will do it
[06:30] <tejinder> now3d: it does'nt display all my drives, only the ones which are used by ubuntu
[06:30] <tejinder> now3d: and yes i can mount them manually using command line
[06:30] <now3d> Dink: mdf is a proprietary format, contact Alcohol 120% and ask them to publish the specifications
[06:30] <Dr_willis> all the mdf images ive seen are of copyprotected/games/cds   :) converting them to .iso   can lose some of the special info on those files
[06:31] <Dink> http://pastebin.ca/193139
[06:31] <det_> right, i installed totem and w32codecs via a chrooted synaptic package manager, but totem does not play ANYTHING
[06:31] <now3d> tejinder: I wonder why they don't mount at startup, they definately have "auto" ?  Are they on a Raid drive or soething? are they SATA or IDE?
[06:32] <trappist> det_: how are you running totem
[06:32] <trappist> det_: totem itself also needs to run from the chroot
[06:32] <tejinder> now3d: IDE
[06:32] <tejinder> there is no RAID
[06:32] <Dink> I tried ...   sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 image.mdf MountPoint
[06:32] <trappist> Dink: yeah that's not likely to work
[06:32] <det_> trappist: of course, and it is only installed in the chroot environment
[06:32] <Dink> even image.iso
[06:32] <Dr_willis> a .mdf has extra data with it
[06:33] <Dink> bastages
[06:33] <trappist> det_: I really don't even know whether totem uses w32codecs.  I use mplayer for everything but dvds.
[06:33] <kutan> http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/gallery/EIT/index.html
[06:33] <now3d> Dink: proprietary format's can only be supported when the vendor, Alcohol 120% publish the speciifcation
[06:33] <kutan> that beats the program
[06:33] <Dr_willis> Thats sort of the reason for the format being made. :P
[06:33] <now3d> tejinder: what abou the other questions?
[06:33] <pointwood_> hi, any suggestions for a way to resize a lot of pictures in one go?
[06:34] <trappist> det_: also, I do have trouble playing some wmv9 files on amd64, no matter what I do
[06:34] <now3d> pointwood_: ImageMagic?
[06:34] <det_> trappist: just installed mplayer and works. even with wmv (dunno which version though)
[06:34] <Dink> so i pretty much have to get the person to reimage it ?
[06:35] <trappist> yeah some of those do work for me, but the only things I could play on ye olde x86 that I can't play now are wmv9
[06:35] <pointwood_> now3d: I would have to script it then, wouldn't I?
[06:35] <kutan> http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/gallery/EIT/eit_199605_195_high_cadence.mpg
[06:35] <trappist> det_: totem might want some crazy gstreamer codecs or something.  try the package list from the RestrictedFormats wiki page.
[06:36] <Dink> Do you think alcohol120 will install with crossover ??
[06:37] <det_> trappist: will try that
[06:37] <trappist> Dink: I'd put money on it
[06:37] <Dink> going to try 6 beta2 first
[06:37] <littlebrean_> !list
[06:37] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[06:39] <Dink> nope with 6beta 2
[06:39] <Dink> going to 5pro
[06:39] <Dink> bastages :P
[06:40] <flai> a
[06:40] <trappist> Dink: you could also try cedega.  come to think of it, they've put a lot more work into cd copy protection than cxoffice.
[06:40] <Dink> that was next on my list :P
[06:42] <Dink> nope ima google abit
[06:45] <Dr_willis> cd copy protection - is one of the reasins ive given up on windows gaming...
[06:45] <Solveneq> Hey guys, i got wifi working, how do i make it so i dont have to do modprobe ndiswrapper every time? also, make it so it keeps the location im connecting to?
[06:45] <Dr_willis> Dink,  what game is this anyway?
[06:45] <Dink> the funniest thing its not even a game :P
[06:45] <Dr_willis> then theres not much point in it being in mdf format.
[06:45] <Dink> he just used alcohol to image files
[06:45] <Phlogistique> Solveneq: you are supposed to do all that with graphical conf tools
[06:46] <det_> which gstreamer package adds support for quicktime?
[06:46] <Dr_willis> he could rip to iso in 1/10th the time
[06:46] <Dink> yea ima have him do that problem is he will have to reup
[06:46] <det_> trappist, i indeed had to install the gstreamer codecs for w32
[06:46] <Solveneq> Phlogistique: Like?
[06:47] <Solveneq> Sorry, big newb here :)
[06:47] <Dr_willis> mdf2iso dont work eh?
[06:47] <Dink> it converted it yeah but still wont mount
[06:47] <arunkale> does anyone here know of any good internet streaming application?
[06:48] <Dink> http://pastebin.ca/193139
[06:48] <Dr_willis> Dink,  kiso is supposed tobe able to read those also
[06:48] <Phlogistique> Solveneq: hum, systemsettings ?
[06:48] <Phlogistique> (altough it doesn't work with me)
[06:48] <Dink> hmm
[06:48] <Dink> installing now
[06:48] <Dr_willis> Dink,  or so google sez
[06:48] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:49] <Solveneq> heh
[06:49] <tk> oi, apache2 makes things complicated (more so than apache) to add vhosts :(
[06:49] <cojy> hi
[06:50] <Dink> nope on kiso
[06:50] <cojy> I need a little help
[06:50] <cojy> any offer?
[06:50] <cojy> :)
[06:50] <Dr_willis> Dink,  it may need the mdf2iso tool installed and confogured
[06:50] <gupta> cojy: just ask!
[06:50] <oheard> cojy: you're best off just asking your question, if anybody can help they likely will. :-)
[06:50] <Dr_willis> since i have no mdfs to test. :P
[06:50] <Solveneq> hrm, heres another one, i just did the package install for kubuntu desktop, how do i get it to boot into it?
[06:50] <Dink> mdf2iso is installed
[06:50] <cojy> I wanted to install mplayer on ubuntu
[06:51] <cojy> but in the terminal it gives me the next error
[06:51] <cojy> install: cannot create regular file `/usr/local/lib/libdha.so.1.0': Permission denied
[06:51] <oheard> Solveneq: in the login manager you should have an option for session, choose KDE. :-D
[06:51] <tk> Solveneq: when you get to the login screen,  click options or whatever and select KDE....
[06:52] <oheard> cojy: try running it with sudo first, then close it and try again.
[06:52] <Dr_willis> Dink,  try a 'file  whatever.mdf'  :)
[06:52] <Dr_willis> Dink,  try a 'file  whatever.iso'   also
[06:52] <Dr_willis> Dink,  and what was your mount command to mont the thing
[06:52] <cojy> what is sodo?...the terminal?
[06:53] <Solveneq> super user do!
[06:53] <Dink> file blah.mdf returned blah.mdf:data
[06:53] <v3ctor> switch user do ;)
[06:53] <Dink> I tried ...   sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 blah.mdf MountPoint
[06:54] <Solveneq> thats weird, i didnt see KDE
[06:54] <danny500> does anybody know why my fucking internet browser keeps cutting off?
[06:54] <v3ctor> danny500: most likely it doesn't like your language
[06:54] <danny500> very funny
[06:55] <cojy> how do I run it with sodo?
[06:55] <v3ctor> !language
[06:55] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:55] <danny500> no body in this room can say that they don't swear so don't even start with that crap
[06:55] <v3ctor> i can say that
[06:55] <v3ctor> so please stop
[06:55] <danny500> well anyways, I've had firefox kick of almost 20 times so far
[06:56] <danny500> for no reason
[06:56] <danny500> It's can't be my connection because it's a 5mb/s
[06:56] <v3ctor> what type of sites does it crash on?
[06:57] <danny500> all of them
[06:57] <danny500> I can be reading my email and it will just randomly shut off
[06:58] <danny500> maybe ubuntu is having a hisy fit
[06:58] <LivingCooler> Hi, can I use the Live CD for an rsync server?
[06:58] <danny500> depends how fast your computer is
[06:58] <oheard> danny500: does it just disappear completely with no warning whatsoever?
[06:58] <Dink> Dr_Willis, any other ideas :)
[06:58] <danny500> yes
[06:58] <Dink> Dr_willis, even
[06:59] <danny500> no warnings at all, iot just disapears
[06:59] <oheard> danny500: run it in the terminal, when it dies again, check the last output for "Segmentation fault", if it says that it's either a bug in firefox or your computers memory is faulty.
[06:59] <heyholmez> hi
[06:59] <danny500> how do I start it in the terminal?
[06:59] <LivingCooler> Can I use rsync from the Live CD to backup 'to' an ftp server ?
[07:00] <v3ctor> open terminal and type firefox
[07:00] <heyholmez> me was going to install kubuntu last night on me lappy, but it stalls at 'loading kernel 100%'. using compaq v3010us
[07:00] <danny500> depends on how fast you computer is
[07:00] <oheard> danny500: K menu -> System -> konsole, then type firefox and press enter.
[07:00] <danny500> heyholmez: are you three years old?
[07:00] <v3ctor> LivingCooler: yes to all of your questions so far
[07:01] <cojy> to install a program in the terminal, do I have to write anything but ./configure, make, make install?
[07:01] <heyholmez> what does age have to do with this
[07:01] <danny500> you just type like a little kid
[07:01] <v3ctor> cojy: ./configure, make, sudo make install
[07:01] <oheard> cojy: it all depends on the program, there should be a README file and an INSTALL file, read those and there should be instructions on what to do.
[07:01] <heyholmez> its for humor. sory i forgot to take things seriously
[07:01] <apokryphos> cojy: please read the FAQ first
[07:01] <danny500> if you want people to help you they have to at least understand what you want
[07:02] <cojy> ok..didn't thought at that....thank you
[07:02] <heyholmez> I want to inform youthat my install failed
[07:02] <danny500> ok try it again
[07:02] <heyholmez> did about 3 times
[07:02] <v3ctor> danny500: this channel is international, some users only know english as a second
[07:02] <danny500> o ok
[07:02] <v3ctor> lets not resort to insults
[07:02] <heyholmez> i didnt check what was going on i just watched the graphical install
[07:02] <danny500> what type of cpu are you using?
[07:02] <danny500> amd or intel?
[07:02] <heyholmez> turion x2
[07:02] <danny500> o
[07:03] <heyholmez> yes i dld the right iso
[07:03] <danny500> It might not be able to run on that type of architecture] 
[07:03] <oheard> heyholmez: did you get any errors? If so what were they?
[07:03] <heyholmez> ill have to check i will in a sec
[07:03] <danny500> turion x2 as far as I know is a business cpu
[07:03] <oheard> Okay.
[07:03] <heyholmez> i found it strange that it didnt work :-P
[07:03] <rampage>  my opera wont start after install
[07:03] <heyholmez> ok checking
[07:04] <rampage>  but its showing icon on internet section
[07:04] <danny500> what name is the os you want to use again?
[07:04] <oheard> danny500: GNU+Linux is the most powerful OS on earth... it runs on anything from iPods to super computers, I'm pretty sure it can handle a Turion :P
[07:04] <heyholmez> the recent kubuntu for amd64
[07:04] <raul12>  plz help
[07:04] <danny500> thats why
[07:05] <danny500> it for amd
[07:05] <danny500> not turion which is a intel chip
[07:05] <heyholmez> turion is amd
[07:05] <tobias__> I need a little help :)  I was on the site cartoonnettwork in the games-section and I saw I had to install a Adobe flashplayer, and they have a linux version at this page "http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash"
[07:05] <raul12>  guys i need help
[07:05] <tobias__> is there an installable thing in adept?
[07:05] <danny500> what? I thought it was intel turion
[07:05] <raul12>  my opera showing icon but not running
[07:05] <heyholmez> it just hangs up at 'loading /casper/initrd.gz
[07:05] <danny500> use firefox
[07:05] <oheard> tobias__: you need flashplayer-nonfree :-)
[07:06] <tobias__> oheard: its in adept? thanks! :)
[07:06] <v3ctor> raul12: open konsile and run it from there, this may give you error explaining the problem
[07:06] <v3ctor> konsole*
[07:06] <oheard> !info flashplayer-nonfree
[07:06] <ubotu> Package flashplayer-nonfree does not exist in any distro I know
[07:06] <heyholmez> anyway I just wanted to inform you guys, should I email someone about it?
[07:06] <oheard> :O
[07:06] <oheard> LIAR!
[07:06] <tobias__> hmm
[07:07] <tobias__> is it called something else?
[07:07] <danny500> try to find a blog about it or something
[07:07] <heyholmez> or manybe it just takes forever and a day to load the kernel
[07:07] <raul12>  well  libqt-mt.so.3 these liabray is missing
[07:07] <gupta> raul12: run this in termial "opera -pd ~/temp"
[07:07] <apokryphos> tobias__: check the FAQ
[07:07] <oheard> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[07:07] <tobias__> apo: thanx
[07:07] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[07:07] <oheard> There we go! :-D
[07:07] <danny500> yeah like installing windows
[07:07] <danny500> takes forever
[07:07] <heyholmez> back to suse
[07:07] <tobias__> woo
[07:07] <gupta> raul12: I think I know why.. wait...
[07:07] <tobias__> iyts there
[07:08] <heyholmez> me loves suse
[07:08] <tobias__> its even
[07:08] <raul12>  well i cant find the lib file
[07:08] <danny500> what you guy's think about windows vista?
[07:08] <oheard> I think it should be burried and never spoken of again...
[07:08] <tobias__> oh
[07:08] <danny500> let me, guess, I hate windows, linux is the best.
[07:09] <danny500> blah, blah, blah
[07:09] <nuku> raul12: what opera did you install? the .6-shared-qt one?
[07:09] <oheard> danny500: no, I have vista... you are ignorant...
[07:09] <danny500> you like it so far?
[07:09] <tobias__> I seem to have the flashplayer nonfree, it seems that on cartoon netvorks pages they use adobes flashplayer which I never heard of before.
[07:09] <oheard> It's a PoS.
[07:09] <v3ctor> danny500: i think that the computers needed to run it well are to pricey for most users
[07:09] <danny500> well it's only a beta version
[07:10] <gupta> raul12: yup nuku's right.. u need to download the 6.shared wt one and the 5...deb one
[07:10] <danny500> I heard that the real version won't need all the power it say's it does
[07:10] <raul12>  well i have these error promt libqt-mt.so.3 is missing
[07:10] <tobias__> do not speak of the hateth os!
[07:10] <danny500> what? windows?
[07:10] <tobias__> aaah!
[07:10] <raul12>  plz spicify exact file name
[07:10] <tobias__> the word was uttered once more :(
[07:10] <danny500> sorry. lol
[07:10] <tmdx120> identify 5percent
[07:11] <nuku> raul12: opera_9.02-20060919.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb
[07:11] <oheard> danny500: it's not even out and people have developed viruses for it, no doubt it's full of DRM, it's best kept away from imo.
[07:11] <raul12>  where can i download that file ???
[07:11] <v3ctor> raul12: try google
[07:12] <tmdx120> need help with kmail can anyone help me?
[07:12] <oheard> raul12: install Opera from the repositories and you shouldn't have a problem.
[07:12] <danny500> mac is the worst os so far. Did you know that windows xp actually runs 2x faster on a mac computer then osx does.
[07:12] <gupta> Try : http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?distro=ubuntu&id=28354%2C28352&location=101&sub=++++&x=46&y=7
[07:12] <raul12>  but i want to install it offline
[07:12] <danny500> thats pretty bad
[07:12] <nuku> oheard: well the commerical repo opera is still 9.00 which is bad due to some bugfixes and ssl certificate issues..
[07:12] <oheard> danny500: your argument is flawed... XP is 5 years old...
[07:13] <paddy2k> how old is NT4?
[07:13] <danny500> yeah and
[07:13] <oheard> nuku: oh I see.
[07:13] <danny500> they've already proved it
[07:13] <tobias__> sb
[07:13] <v3ctor> paddy2k: 10years?
[07:13] <oheard> danny500: I doubt vista will run 2x as fast on a mac than os x...
[07:13] <cojy> how can i have the full access of the system?
[07:13] <danny500> xp does that already
[07:13] <nuku> the 9.02 works without problems installed from the right deb..
[07:13] <paddy2k> v3ctor: thanx
[07:13] <tmdx120> any kmail gurus out there?
[07:14] <v3ctor> paddy2k: rough guess
[07:14] <danny500> maximum pc did a test on it
[07:14] <cojy> I can't even rename the linux partition (filesystem)
[07:14] <tobias__> should i install "libflash-mozplugin"? would it save me?
[07:14] <tmdx120> I need to know if you can use kmail to show aol email?
[07:14] <oheard> danny500: but you see OS X is modern, new, sexy, XP isn't...
[07:14] <danny500> they speed test both os's on the new mac and windows ran 2x faster
[07:14] <v3ctor> tmdx120: does aol email support POP?
[07:14] <Solveneq> woah
[07:15] <Solveneq> i changed to kubuntu and my display is going insane
[07:15] <danny500> I don't care about looks, I care about performence
[07:15] <cojy> how can i have the full access of the system?
[07:15] <oheard> danny500: I can run windows ME 5x faster than windows XP in vmware, ME must be so much better! :O
[07:15] <cojy> I can't even rename the linux partition (filesystem)
[07:15] <nuku> raul: wget http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-434/intel-linux/en/opera_9.02-20060919.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb
[07:15] <nuku> raul12: ..
[07:15] <v3ctor> lol @ oheard
[07:15] <paddy2k> cojy: you have to become a superuser
[07:15] <tmdx120> v3ctor: No, I dont think so. I have to check.
[07:15] <danny500> yeah your right. And ME is extremly fast online for some reason
[07:15] <cojy> and hoq do I do that?
[07:15] <raul12> i am working on it
[07:15] <nuku> raul12: this will give you the deb you can install via "sudo dpkg -i opera_9.02-20060919.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb"
[07:15] <raul12> @naku
[07:16] <paddy2k> cojy: in konsole type sudo before your command to have root privilages
[07:16] <cojy> okay :) thanks
[07:17] <paddy2k> cojy: to open a program with root privilages in the KDE hit ALT-F2 then type "kdesu <program>"
[07:17] <raul12>  but why my 1st package which i downloaded from opera did not run
[07:17] <raul12>  ???
[07:17] <dimsuz> hi! how do I setup xorg so I can enter (C) simbol?
[07:17] <dimsuz> some xkb magic needed? :)
[07:17] <raul12>  @nuku
[07:17] <paddy2k> raul12: are you using kubuntu?
[07:17] <raul12>  yup
[07:18] <raul12>  6.06
[07:18] <nuku> raul12: well opera supports alot of distributions which have different libs... so you need to get the one appropiate for ubuntu :)
[07:18] <danny500> which is the best linux so far?
[07:18] <tmdx120> v3ctor: It supports IMAP
[07:18] <paddy2k> raul12: I installed Opera 0.02 just fine on the same distro by selecting Ubuntu as my distro in the downloads page and it works perfectly. (like right now)
[07:19] <raul12>  but not mine
[07:19] <raul12>  i have download the .deb and zip package
[07:19] <raul12>  tryed both
[07:19] <danny500> use firefox
[07:19] <paddy2k> raul12: did you try getting it from the canonical repository in adept?
[07:19] <raul12>  but now the icon comes up sometimes dance then gone
[07:20] <danny500> it's better then opera anyways
[07:20] <paddy2k> Opera's way better!
[07:20] <raul12>  well i have downloaded it manually
[07:20] <raul12>  from opera
[07:20] <danny500> are you kiding?
[07:20] <raul12>  site
[07:20] <oheard> danny500: people are entitled to choose the software they want. :-)
[07:20] <raul12>  nope not even 0.01 %
[07:21] <raul12>  still opera kinda better
[07:21] <raul12>  slightly slower than fire
[07:21] <nuku> opera slower than fx?!
[07:21] <nuku> never happend to see that :p
[07:21] <raul12>   slightly
[07:21] <danny500> well if you can't get opera. why waist all your time when you prob already have firefox installed
[07:21] <nuku> fx is WAY slower than fx..
[07:21] <nuku> opera :)
[07:21] <oheard> I tend to find firefox the most memory eating/leaking program in existance... so I use konqueror for the integration with KDE. :-D
[07:21] <nuku> is faster
[07:22] <nuku> i make no sense :p
[07:22] <raul12>  well i want to waste time in solving the problem
[07:22] <raul12>  not installing opera
[07:22] <paddy2k> raul12: try getting it from the repos. that way it "should" work without any trouble. want the repos link?
[07:22] <nuku> raul12: still does not work? with the package i told you?
[07:22] <Admiral_Chicago> the GUI is superior to Opera, Konqui IMO
[07:22] <raul12>  yup
[07:22] <raul12>  yup it is
[07:22] <danny500> hey, a browser is a browser
[07:22] <v3ctor> konqueror is the only browser for me ;)
[07:23] <raul12>  well i did ask my question if u didnt see
[07:23] <danny500> who cares how fast it is
[07:23] <raul12>  @ubotu
[07:23] <danny500> as long as it works
[07:23] <Admiral_Chicago> food now ttul
[07:23] <oheard> Says the guy who claims Windows is better than OS X because it's faster...
[07:23] <v3ctor> lol
[07:23] <paddy2k> LOL
[07:24] <nuku> raul12: an unlikely case is that you may have to "apt-get install libqt3-mt"
[07:24] <v3ctor> "I don't care about looks, I care about performence"
[07:25] <oheard> xD
[07:25] <danny500> I only meant that for os's
[07:25] <danny500> not browsers
[07:25] <_Shade_> i'm going to upgrade my dapper to edgy beta. Is it safe ?
[07:25] <paddy2k> danny500: stop digging!
[07:25] <danny500> ?
[07:25] <oheard> _Shade_: I would wait until it's released if I was you.
[07:26] <_Shade_> oheard well i don't expect anything stable, i just wanted to test a bit
[07:26] <nuku> hehe wonders how an os with an O(2^n) thread sheduler would perform :p
[07:27] <oheard> _Shade_: then by all means go ahead, :-D
[07:27] <raul12> libqt3-mt these lib file is already installed
[07:27] <_Shade_> but last time i did that (dapper -> edgy knot3 it did not launch)
[07:27] <danny500> I'm not using a shovel. I'm using a backhoe lol
[07:27] <v3ctor> _Shade_: it is plenty stable enough for testing
[07:27] <tmdx120> v3ctor: It supports IMAP
[07:27] <nuku> raul12: and you still get missing libqt when running opera form konsole?
[07:27] <raul12> yup
[07:28] <v3ctor> tmdx120: I don't care about looks, I care about performence
[07:28] <v3ctor> doh
[07:28] <v3ctor> wrong paste
[07:28] <tmdx120> v3ctor: ???
[07:28] <nuku> raul12: maybe you have broken something by installing it by hand before :p
[07:28] <v3ctor> tmdx120: http://www.mepis.org/olddocs/kmail-setup/
[07:28] <tmdx120> v3ctor: LOL THANKS!!!
[07:28] <raul12> and the .deb package link i got
[07:29] <raul12> dont help much
[07:29] <_Shade_> ok, so i will try
[07:29] <danny500> lol
[07:29] <raul12> it says architecture mis match
[07:29] <nuku> raul12: ah you are on x64?!
[07:29] <raul12> i have x64 and it is i386
[07:29] <raul12> yup
[07:29] <nuku> ok i see
[07:29] <raul12> some 1 said it can be installed
[07:29] <raul12> on x64
[07:29] <nuku> thats the problem i guess :)
[07:30] <_Shade_> i suppose i should perform a clean install of dapper first ?
[07:30] <danny500> probably
[07:30] <danny500> yeah
[07:30] <danny500> you don't want to do a dirty install
[07:30] <v3ctor> why not do a clean install of edgy beta?
[07:30] <danny500> you'll have o clean you cpu then
[07:30] <danny500> lol
[07:31] <nuku> raul12: you may try the statically linked version then.. http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-434/intel-linux/en/opera-static_9.02-20060919.1-qt_en_i386.deb
[07:31] <_Shade_> v3ctor because i don't have it burnt yet - i have to do dist-upgrade
[07:31] <v3ctor> ahh
[07:31] <_Shade_> v3ctor do you think it will work ?
[07:32] <v3ctor> i did the same thing with this xubuntu
[07:32] <v3ctor> it will work
[07:32] <nuku> raul12: but i don't know much about x64 installations.. you might be able to have a lib32/ or something like that with the appropiate libs there..
[07:32] <nuku> raul12: but there are probably people who can tell you more about it :)
[07:32] <_Shade_> v3ctor it did not for knot 3... but it's beta at all :)
[07:32] <v3ctor> i did it 2 days ago
[07:32] <raul12> but not finding them ^_^ lol
[07:33] <nuku> raul12: hehe well it was not clear that you use x64 ...
[07:33] <v3ctor> fresh dapper server install > upgrade to edgy > install xubuntu-desktop
[07:33] <raul12> lol
[07:33] <_Shade_> v3ctor i'll try then... may i use synaptic or adept, or should it be @ init3
[07:33] <raul12> but from herre some 1 told me that i386 can be installed on x64
[07:33] <nuku> raul12: its a more common setup to have a hybrid installation for 32bit libs in general
[07:33] <v3ctor> always safer in single user mode
[07:34] <v3ctor> less things running
[07:34] <paddy2k> raul12: I think you using an x64 box is the issue here. Thats why Ubuntu ship a seperate x64 version (and mac version)
[07:34] <raul12> well i have intstalled all lib32 files
[07:34] <nuku> raul12: well try the static one .. the link i gave you.. you may have luck with it..
[07:34] <raul12> i am on it
[07:34] <oheard> Does Opera not have a 64bit build?
[07:35] <trappist> not that I know of
[07:35] <raul12> nope
[07:35] <oheard> That's a little silly...
[07:35] <nuku> raul12: you may have to do something like export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib32 or wherever they are
[07:35] <nuku> hehe almost all browser plugins are 32bit too :p
[07:35] <raul12> where i can make these change
[07:36] <raul12> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib32
[07:36] <danny500> who's DCC?
[07:36] <nuku> raul12: in konsole try this..   "LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib32 opera"
[07:36] <paddy2k> they only have an i386 build http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-434/intel-linux/en/
[07:36] <_Shade_> v3ctor ok thanks then.... awww... i have one more question: if i do the update and the packages are downloading, can i simply poweroff my machine and then continue the process at a later time or do i have to do it at once?
[07:36] <nuku> but as i told you i am not into x64 installations so its just a blind guess ..
[07:36] <v3ctor> as long as they are not installing...it *should* be ok
[07:36] <nuku> and i bet the static version might work for you
[07:37] <_Shade_> ah thanx then
[07:37] <v3ctor> you could use the download only option
[07:37] <danny500> who's DCC?
[07:37] <v3ctor> then upgrade later
[07:37] <raul12> ok
[07:37] <danny500> how do you do that? ^
[07:37] <_Shade_> v3ctor and the syntax is... ?
[07:38] <paddy2k> I've a question. Would installing the latest KDE with Adept mess up my Kubuntu install?
[07:38] <danny500> it might
[07:38] <dinosaur-rus> hi
[07:38] <v3ctor> --download-only with aptitude
[07:38] <_Shade_> ok thanks pal
[07:38] <dinosaur-rus> I've just fucked up my HDD
[07:39] <danny500> dinosaur-rus> LOL LOL LOL
[07:39] <trappist> dinosaur-rus: language, please
[07:39] <v3ctor> dinosaur-rus: they are hard to use in that state
[07:39] <dinosaur-rus> trappist: ok sorry
[07:39] <paddy2k> dinosarus-rus: hdd fuck up virgin?
[07:39] <danny500> lol
[07:39] <trappist> paddy2k: please.
[07:39] <v3ctor> !language
[07:39] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:39] <paddy2k> I just wanted to know if it was the first time.
[07:40] <trappist> paddy2k: find another way to say it.
[07:40] <danny500> yeah, won't want the three year olds to learn bad launguage
[07:40] <v3ctor> paddy2k: as funny as it may be ^^
[07:41] <danny500> every one in this room, how old are you?
[07:41] <danny500> 17
[07:41] <dinosaur-rus> I mean I backed up the most sensitive data in preparation for installing Kubuntu and formatted Linux partition... but I forgot to move backups to another one... so everything is lost
[07:41] <paddy2k> dinsaur-rus: so what happened?
[07:41] <v3ctor> danny500: it is not just age issue either. we don't want to insult because of cultural/religious backgrounds either
[07:41] <paddy2k> nasty!
[07:41] <dinosaur-rus> paddy2k: I lost all my data from Linux
[07:41] <danny500> well then it's all gone, thers' nothing you can do
[07:42] <paddy2k> easy to do
[07:42] <dinosaur-rus> danny500: except killing myself for such stupid mistake
[07:42] <danny500> pray to god, maybe he'll fix it for you. lol
[07:43] <danny500> well what type of data did you lose?
[07:43] <danny500> LOL
[07:43] <danny500> dinosaur porn
[07:44] <paddy2k> I've had hard drives burn out (because it was wrapped in tinfoil), partition tables go south etc. There may be a small chance to recover the formatted data if you can get your hands on forensic tools!
[07:44] <dinosaur-rus> lots of sources from different repositories, downloaded files, projects, configuration files
[07:44] <danny500> well that's informative
[07:44] <danny500> disk warrior might be able to reverse the erase
[07:44] <nuku> dinosaur-rus: did you actually overwrite it with other data or just formatted it?
[07:45] <dinosaur-rus> danny500: all that data was collected for months and some with difficulties
[07:45] <danny500> I know they use it on mac for that reason but I don't know if they have it for linux
[07:45] <danny500> look up disk warrior
[07:45] <dinosaur-rus> nuku: formatted it
[07:45] <dinosaur-rus> danny500: now I'm without Linux
[07:45] <danny500> ou have no os?
[07:46] <paddy2k> danny500: if its for OS X it might be for *nix systems
[07:46] <danny500> what are you using for an os right now?
[07:46] <zorglu_> .
[07:46] <dinosaur-rus> danny500: only Windows is still working
[07:46] <paddy2k> dinosaur-rus:live disk?
[07:46] <nuku> dinosaur-rus: well normally a format just wipes the inode table/fat/mft or whatever .. so chances are very good to rescue most of your stuff
[07:46] <paddy2k> ah right
[07:47] <nuku> dinosaur-rus: efforts depends on the filesystem it was before ;)
[07:47] <danny500> well try to use disk warrior. It will bring back the files
[07:47] <dinosaur-rus> paddy2k: uh, Kubuntu 6.10 Live CD loads successfully only on every ~10 attempt, it's kinda buggy for me
[07:47] <danny500> thats what it's made for. this prob
[07:47] <danny500> well that sucks
[07:47] <zorglu_> dinosaur-rus: have you checked the CD ?
[07:48] <danny500> yeah, check the cd for errors
[07:48] <paddy2k> dinosaur-rus: if your on windoz try "PC Inspector File Recovery" it's free and worked when I busted my partition table.
[07:48] <danny500> yeah, but will it be able to read linux files?
[07:49] <danny500> or does it only look for exe and dll's?
[07:49] <dinosaur-rus> zorglu_, danny500: I've checked ISO md5sum after downloading
[07:49] <danny500> yeah
[07:49] <danny500> and
[07:49] <nuku> i had very good results with easyrecovery pro some time ago :)
[07:49] <zorglu_> dinosaur-rus: when you boot and that it fails, what is the issue
[07:49] <paddy2k> danny500: I recovered loads of different files.
[07:50] <Blacken> If you can locate partitionmagic, IIRC it can recover smashed tables.
[07:50] <danny500> ok then, guess it works then lol
[07:50] <nuku> well as i said most important is the underlying filesystem to decide what tool to use :)
[07:50] <zorglu_> hard to keep a channel on topic :)
[07:50] <dinosaur-rus> well, before downloading that ISO, I've ordered Kubuntu 6.06 by ShipIt :)
[07:51] <dragonkh> anyone here?
[07:51] <dragonkh> ah cool
[07:51] <Blacken> dinosaur-rus: It'll take quite some time to get to you.
[07:51] <Blacken> dinosaur-rus: I wouldn't rely on that.
[07:51] <paddy2k> I say just look with a tool, if it doesn't work,, move on to the next one
[07:51] <dinosaur-rus> Blacked: at least it's free, so as reserve it'd be good
[07:52] <nuku> or... forget about the data :P
[07:52] <paddy2k> Blacked: I got my package in about 5-6 weeks. better than fed*x
[07:53] <dinosaur-rus> nuku: that was reiserfs, formatting tool I've used supports ext3 only, so... :/
[07:53] <paddy2k> anyone use edubuntu in a class room situation?
[07:53] <Blacken> paddy2k: I installed it last year at my high school. It's still ticking along without complaints.
[07:53] <hyper> abattoir: hiya
[07:54] <dinosaur-rus> oh "PC Inspector File Recovery" does't support Linux partitions
[07:54] <hyper> trappist: hiya
[07:54] <Blacken> paddy2k: And since this presentation (and tech-education conference...thing...hard to describe) is going to have a bunch of education professionals, I felt it best to have some ltsp CDs around.
[07:54] <paddy2k> Blacken: cool, does it rely on virtualisation and thin clients? I know the server has to have a certain amount for each client.
[07:54] <nuku> dinosaur-rus: reiserfsck can do nice work in rebuilding the journal
[07:54] <Blacken> paddy2k: It's LTSP.
[07:55] <Blacken> paddy2k: No virtualization that I know about, but it's thin-client X-terminal machines.
[07:55] <paddy2k> dinosaur-rus: sorry about that then, but if windoz ever goes south  on you (and it will) you could use that!
[07:55] <Blacken> The K12LTSP setup that runs most of the school's linux thinclients has a bunch of standardized clients...I just got the trash machines. As long as boot-over-ethernet worked, I used 'em.
[07:56] <dinosaur-rus> nuku: what journal if partition has been formatted to another fs?
[07:56] <paddy2k> Blacken: If you were at aKademy you could have picked up a box of Kubuntu, they had loads there
[07:56] <Blacken> paddy2k: I live in Maine and am a poor college student.
[07:56] <Blacken> paddy2k: End of story. :P
[07:56] <Blacken> No aKademy for me.
[07:56] <nuku> dinosaur-rus:  something like this may work: reiserfsck scan-whole-partition rebuild-tree /dev/yourdev
[07:57] <nuku> dinosaur-rus: but you should dd the whole partition first so you can play around
[07:57] <dinosaur-rus> does anyone here, except me, encounter problems with Kubuntu 6.10 amd64 Live-CD?
[07:57] <paddy2k> Blacken: yea, I bumped into the "kicker" team walking the streets of dublin wearing KDE t's on a friday night while out on the beer and found out it was on.
[07:58] <buzzy> sorry for OT, people i m looking for fortran dedicated channel..is there one?
[07:58] <Blacken> paddy2k: Aha. I need to get me one of those shirts.
[07:58] <nuku> dinosaur-rus: or an --rebuild-sb to rebuild the superblock
[07:58] <Blacken> dinosaur-rus: From what I hear, it's rare not to have a problem with the liveCD. 6.10 64-bit seems to still be a wee bit touchy.
[07:58] <nuku> dinosaur-rus: ..take a look at the for example: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/repairing-reiserfs-file-system-with-reiserfsck.html
[07:59] <Blacken> dinosaur-rus: Might want to go download/burn i386-6.06.
[07:59] <voraistos> !voodoo
[07:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about voodoo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:59] <voraistos> !tdfx
[07:59] <paddy2k> Blacken: http://www.kde.org/stuff/merchandise.php the mug has pride of place in my work cage/cubicle
[08:00] <trappist> dinosaur-rus: problems (bugs) are inevitable.  especially in an instable, unreleased OS, but maybe you could be more specific.
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tdfx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <lupine_85> !info rutilt edgy
[08:00] <ubotu> Package rutilt does not exist in edgy
[08:00] <lupine_85> boooooooooooo hoooooooooooo
[08:00] <Blacken> paddy2k: Ugh, maybe I don't need that shirt. That's ugly.
[08:00] <trappist> voraistos: if you're taking stabs in the dark, try /msg ubotu query
[08:01] <paddy2k> gud morning, gud evening and gud nite. I'm off to hide some guinness in my belly.
[08:02] <dinosaur-rus> trappist: it displays KDE splash, loads some components, and then the screens gets screwed up (noise in the upper part, solid pink color in the bottom). number of loaded components differs from time to time
[08:02] <v3ctor> !botabuse
[08:02] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[08:04] <dinosaur-rus> trappist: also, it doesn't show any partitions when manual partitioning is chosen during installation (so I didn't go further - don't want to loose absolutely everything)
[08:04] <ka6sox> anyone around who has tried to install kubuntu on a PowerMac-G4-AGP> with a nVidia card?
[08:05] <trappist> dinosaur-rus: yeah usplash in general is sucking pretty bad on both my amd64 boxen, livecd or not
[08:05] <TheGateKeeper> dinosaur-rus: use the alternative CD, it uses a text installer
[08:06] <Blacken> I almost bought an AMD64 box, but I'm glad I didn't. Still too many issues.
[08:06] <BluesKaj> you can run 32 bit OS on AMD 64 ...I do and it runs very well
[08:07] <jhutchins_wk> What's the kubuntu equivalent of "chkconfig" to manage services?
[08:07] <dinosaur-rus> TheGateKeeper: may be it'd be better to add non-GUI installer (without loading Live-CD) and some recovery features (like restoring rewritten loader)?
[08:07] <Blacken> BluesKaj: I know. That'd what I'd probably have done if I'd bought one. But the Inspiron Core Duo laptop was way cheaper than the AMD64 desktop.
[08:07] <Blacken> dinosaur-rus: lots of people have been asking for that...
[08:07] <Blacken> dinosaur-rus: No luck so far. :-/
[08:07] <BluesKaj> should still run
[08:07] <ka6sox> is there a better place to ask kubuntu-ppc questions?
[08:07] <TheGateKeeper> dinosaur-rus: and it's called the alternative CD lol
[08:08] <andy> where can i get libvisual-0.4-plugins
[08:08] <andy> for dapper
[08:11] <otaku-san> How does the update releasing normally go?  I mean....it seems that I've been updating everyday for the past 2 weeks....there was a long calm then boom!   Is it about this time when alot of release dates happen?
[08:11] <bertha> !es
[08:11] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:12] <otaku-san> andy: look in Adept..at the top in the search box type in the pack and wait....and something might come up.  If that doesn't work...google it...you probably will find a .dep pack of it
[08:12] <tomek__> Hi
[08:12] <tomek__> I have problem with Amarok
[08:13] <tomek__> I don't play mp3 on this player
[08:13] <otaku-san> tomek__: That takes a special package
[08:13] <tomek__> I don't listen music
[08:13] <andy> otaku-san: tried both and no success
[08:13] <Solveneq> how can i set up my ndiswrapper so i dont haev to modprobe it every boot?
[08:13] <tomek__> for example mp3
[08:14] <tomek__> what can I do it ??
[08:14] <otaku-san> tomek__: You mean you can't listen to mp3s.  Thats because Amarok doesn't come with support for mp3's.  You have to install a package.  Wait I'll get it for you.
[08:15] <tomek__> ok
[08:15] <josey> I'm converting all my mp3s to ogg right now :P
[08:15] <otaku-san> andy: libvisuals?  You couldn't find anything....
[08:15] <otaku-san> josey: using what?
[08:15] <nuku> !info libxine-extracodecs
[08:15] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[08:15] <nuku> tomek__: thats the one you need :)
[08:16] <josey> audacity
[08:16] <otaku-san> nuku: thank you
[08:16] <tomek__> libxine -extra .... ??
[08:16] <otaku-san> tomek__: a codec is what mp3 is
[08:16] <nuku> extracodecs .. like .. mp3 :)
[08:16] <tomek__> ok
[08:16] <tomek__> thanks
[08:17] <tomek__> very thanks
[08:17] <trappist> short for COmpressor/DECompressor
[08:17] <otaku-san> .....I was almost done with the same thing trappist!  You beat me
[08:17] <trappist> :)
[08:17] <[GuS] > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codec
[08:17] <nuku> you might even call it COder/DECoder :)
[08:18] <otaku-san> josey: ya...Audicity does Mp3 to Ogg...On Amarok I have a script installed that can trancoded a whole bunch of codecs....just can't find it on Amarok
[08:18] <otaku-san> transcode*
[08:19] <zorglu_> !info soundconverter
[08:19] <ubotu> soundconverter: simple sound converter application for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 32 kB, installed size 216 kB
[08:19] <otaku-san> zorglu_: hmmmm....never heard of it....Do you use it?
[08:20] <zorglu_> otaku-san: nope, i dont. but it is the one advised by help.ubuntu.org
[08:20] <zorglu_> !codec
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <zorglu_> !codecs
[08:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:20] <jhutchins_wk> I hate to keep asking this, but the ubuntu forums are down.
[08:20] <zorglu_> otaku-san: in the first url
[08:20] <jhutchins_wk> What's the *buntu eqivalent of chkconfig to start/stop/manage services in init?
[08:20] <trappist> jhutchins_wk: update-rc.d
[08:21] <otaku-san> zorglu_: Thanks
[08:21] <zorglu_> jhutchins_wk: hmm fdoving told me the other day. something with sysv in the title
[08:21] <zorglu_> jhutchins_wk: i think it is sysvconfig
[08:21] <zorglu_> !info sysvconfig
[08:21] <trappist> I personally think chkconfig is superior
[08:21] <ubotu> sysvconfig: A text menu based utility for configuring init script links. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 144 kB
[08:22] <zorglu_> jhutchins_wk: sysv-rc-conf package may be of interest too
[08:22] <trappist> zorglu_: that's one of many interfaces for managing startup services, but chkconfig is a cli for managing one service at a time, so the equivalent here would be more like update-rc.d
[08:23] <andy> libvisual-0.4-plugins --> this is not available for dapper
[08:23] <andy> not even under backports
[08:23] <jhutchins_wk> Thanks
[08:23] <jhutchins_wk> Most of the init scripts for Mandriva and Fedora these days include a "status" command.
[08:23] <nuku> andy: try imbrandon's repository afair he has it in there..
[08:23] <Solveneq> how can i set up my ndiswrapper so i dont have to modprobe it every boot?
[08:24] <zorglu_> Solveneq: i think it involve putting a file in /etc/modprobe.d
[08:24] <andy> no luck nuku
[08:24] <zorglu_> Solveneq: "man modprobe.conf" will explain the format of the file
[08:25] <zorglu_> andy: why do you need it
[08:25] <andy> for amarok visualizations
[08:25] <andy> 1.4.3
[08:25] <andy> it cannot work with 2.0
[08:26] <andy> i've got libvisuals-0.4 just not the plugins
[08:26] <zorglu_> http://www.kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-142/pool-dapper/ <- you may try those...
[08:26] <otaku-san> Does anyone else have probs with mplayer in Firefox?
[08:26] <zorglu_> otaku-san: i do :)
[08:27] <zorglu_> otaku-san: but i may not be a good example as mplayer fails everywhere on my box
[08:27] <otaku-san> zorglu_: I don't know about you but mine only plays music...and it takes a long time doing it....and vids....well forget that.
[08:28] <andy> thanks zorglu_
[08:28] <otaku-san> zorglu_: I found this...totem-xine-firefox-plugin....thats what Ubuntu uses for Firefox....maybe it'll work in Kubuntu
[08:29] <josey> I can't aubibly hear any degradation but does anyone know if you do lose quality with ogg?
[08:29] <Chousuke> lose quality when you do what? compress CD audio?
[08:29] <Chousuke> yes.
[08:29] <Chousuke> ogg is a lossy codec
[08:29] <zorglu_> otaku-san: ok. likely as firefox is more gnome that kde
[08:29] <jhutchins_wk> josey: Depends on your settings, but it's intended to be lossy.
[08:30] <trappist> josey: you lose quality converting from one lossy format to another, yeah
[08:30] <zorglu_> josey: in short, what they wanna know if loosing quality compared to which original quality
[08:30] <Chousuke> However, it tries to get rid of the data that you would be unable to hear anyway. :)
[08:31] <otaku-san> zorglu_: ya....Firefox is almost a hack for Kubuntu...they want you to use Konq...but Konq doesn't work for me.
[08:31] <otaku-san> Firefox is cool anyways....
[08:31] <josey> well ogg vs mp3
[08:31] <zorglu_> josey: ogg provides better quality than mp3 for the same file size
[08:32] <josey> cool thats what I wanted to hear :)
[08:32] <otaku-san> ands it's opensource
[08:32] <otaku-san> and*
[08:32] <josey> yeah thats why I'm converting my mp3's
[08:32] <Chousuke> mp3 will be free in about two years though
[08:32] <Chousuke> but that's a long time
[08:32] <jhutchins_wk> josey: The problem is if you convert mp3's to ogg, you will loose both what mp3 looses and what ogg looses, which are different.
[08:33] <[GuS] > People... there is a problem in Edgy with USB disk? when i put data on it, i unplug and plug again.. and the disk is empty...
[08:33] <otaku-san> Chousuke: really....where did you get this info?
[08:33] <[GuS] > that happening to me with any USB disk
[08:33] <Chousuke> otaku-san: it's what I've heard.
[08:33] <Chousuke> otaku-san: AFAIK the patents expire on 2008 :)
[08:33] <jhutchins_wk> josey: If you have the original lossless format files or CD's or whatever you can convert those, but if you go mp3 => ogg you will have crap.
[08:33] <Chousuke> jhutchins_wk: not necessarily
[08:34] <otaku-san> Chousuke: well then....opensource Mp3....sounds good
[08:34] <jhutchins_wk> Chousuke: crap being relative.
[08:34] <Chousuke> yeah :P
[08:34] <Chousuke> otaku-san: well, not open source as much as "not burdened by patents"
[08:34] <jhutchins_wk> otaku-san: ogg is generally considered to be a better algorythm, it's significantly newer.
[08:34] <andy> how to make amarok visualisations fullscreen with a particular resolution?
[08:34] <jhutchins_wk> mp3 is OLD.
[08:34] <Chousuke> there are numerous open source mp3 encoders and decoders.
[08:34] <otaku-san> well duh
[08:35] <jhutchins_wk> It's actually MPEG2 layer 3, and they're on like MPEG5 now.
[08:35] <Chousuke> You're just not allowed to use it now :/
[08:36] <jhutchins_wk> Chousuke: Sure you are, it's just a matter of buying the right license.
[08:36] <shadowraven> how would i g about reinstall me wireless driver? i updated my laptop a few days ago and the wireless broke
[08:36] <jhutchins_wk> How do you determine what cute version name you have?
[08:36] <jhutchins_wk> All I know is the number, 6.06.
[08:37] <trappist> jhutchins_wk: lsb_release -a
[08:37] <josey> Does anyone else prefer konquorer to firefox?
[08:37] <josey> konquorer seems to have potential
[08:37] <otaku-san> zorglu_: do you think I should uninstall the mplayer plugin so the totem one can work?
[08:37] <warpzone> josey: I would if I didn't have to switch back to ff all the time, so I just stick with ff
[08:38] <shadowraven> how would i go about reinstalingl my wireless driver? i updated my laptop a few days ago and the wireless broke. I have the wireless 3945
[08:38] <josey> i like the buit in ad filtering
[08:38] <TheGateKeeper> how do you install font?
[08:38] <zorglu_> otaku-san: no idea, i know mine deosnt work, but i never investigate further to make it work
[08:38] <otaku-san> josey: only thing about konq for me....is it just goes way slow on the internet...Firefox goes fast....so I use FF
[08:39] <jhutchins_wk> trappist: Got it, dapper.
[08:39] <warpzone> otaku-san: tried swiftfox? its noticeably faster
[08:39] <otaku-san> zorglu_: I'll just nuke the mplayer....so I don't have clashing players
[08:39] <zorglu_> otaku-san: ok
[08:40] <nuku> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html opera ftw :)
[08:40] <warpzone> Any linux gurus here? I have a maybe tough question
[08:40] <otaku-san> warpzone: hahaha no not like RAM slow...I mean connection slow...I have a good fast connection...Firefox goes fast...and Konq...for some reason goes at dailup speeds
[08:40] <otaku-san> Opera works too
[08:40] <josey> otaku: yeah i think it's slower becuase it waits for the entire page to be loaded before it displays it... or so it seems
[08:41] <Tm_T> warpzone: dunno about guru but spit it out
[08:41] <otaku-san> hahah I was about to say the same thing
[08:41] <otaku-san> josey: hmmm yeah it seems to do that...sometimes...maybe theres an option somewhere.
[08:42] <warpzone> Tm_T: whenever I SSH into my school computer, it has something that colors the text, so its easy to seperate code and whatnot
[08:42] <warpzone> Tm_T: it even works in editors like nano and vim
[08:42] <Tm_T> and?
[08:42] <warpzone> Tm_T: is that a shell script or something I can switch on
[08:42] <zorglu_> warpzone: you have to ask a question to get an answer
[08:42] <otaku-san> that how editors should work with code...Notepad in winbloze distroyed that
[08:42] <warpzone> Tm_T: I want to duplicate it on my compy
[08:43] <warpzone> zorglu_: needed bg info :-P
[08:43] <otaku-san> warpzone: what kind of OS do you have?
[08:43] <otaku-san> cuz you seem not to have Linux
[08:43] <warpzone> no no its linux
[08:43] <zorglu_> ok im lost
[08:43] <warpzone> i think fedora core at the school
[08:43] <otaku-san> ....yeah...I saw...nano..
[08:43] <zorglu_> warpzone: wha tis the question ?
[08:44] <warpzone> zorglu_: is there a way to color the text like kate or gedit do, but in the bash prompt?
[08:44] <otaku-san> warpzone: ahhhh now we get somewhere
[08:44] <nuku> warpzone: look at $PS1 env var :)
[08:44] <zorglu_> warpzone: depends what text you want to colorize ?
[08:44] <trappist> warpzone: vim does syntax hilighting
[08:45] <warpzone> haha sorry guys didnt mean to be redundant
[08:45] <otaku-san> zorglu_: he wants it to color coding so you can figure it out easier...like in kate
[08:45] <zorglu_> otaku-san: in bash ? deosnt make much sence to me :)
[08:46] <jhutchins_wk> warpzone: Some distros are aliasing the bash commands to <command> -color.  That may be what you're seeng.
[08:46] <jhutchins_wk> so ls becomes ls --color
[08:46] <otaku-san> zorglu_: yeah in bash....what coding would you do in bash?  .....Unless he's using it to debug
[08:47] <warpzone> otaku-san: just beginning C stuff
[08:47] <otaku-san> warpzone: ahhhh...C
[08:47] <jhutchins_wk> warpzone: vim-enhanced 7
[08:47] <zorglu_> warpzone: you are coding C in bash ?
[08:47] <Chousuke> warpzone: you need a text editor :P
[08:47] <warpzone> zorglu_: no no I mean I use vim or nano and complice using gcc
[08:47] <zorglu_> warpzone: ok i think you need normal code colorization, kate does it, vim too i think
[08:48] <trappist> yeah vim does
[08:48] <Chousuke> emacs, jed, vim, just about any decent editor :)
[08:48] <nuku> hehe echo "main(int argc, char** argv) {" >> main.c :p
[08:48] <Chousuke> nuku: hehe
[08:48] <warpzone> zorglu_:ooo okie I'll check the aliases too
[08:48] <zorglu_> maybe it is to colorize the error output of gcc ?
[08:49] <warpzone> zorglu_: no I just thought it was neat, made the prompt pretty :-P
[08:49] <zorglu_> warpzone: sorry but what you want is not obvious.
[08:49] <nuku> warpzone: check that you got "vim" installed not just "vim-tiny" as the tiny one does not have syntax highlighting
[08:50] <warpzone> zorglu_: thats cool I have places to check, PSI and default aliases and vim. I've got a direction now
[08:50] <nuku> warpzone: and do something like "echo syntax on >> ~/.vimrc"
[08:50] <zorglu_> warpzone: ok :)
[08:50] <warpzone> alrighty, thanks a bunch guys, didnt mean to overrun the party
[08:51] <nuku> warpzone: we just want to bring a little color in your life :)
[08:51] <warpzone> nuku: I appreciate it :-P
[08:52] <Chousuke> run vimtutor first though
[08:52] <Chousuke> so you learn how to quit the app :P
[08:52] <zorglu_> and never come back :)
[08:52] <warpzone> Chousuke: I used to just mash the keys. iterative process, eventually found out :-P
[08:52] <nuku> haha and feel the power of vim by using :x instead of :wq ;)
[08:53] <warpzone> yeah its more instructor-forced, so not much of a choice
[08:53] <Chousuke> jed is nice too
[08:54] <Chousuke> I went through vimtutor today, actually
[08:55] <|lostbyte|> hi..
[08:55] <warpzone> |lostbyte| howdy
[08:55] <|lostbyte|> Whats that kde program that has msn, yahooo etc..
[08:55] <|lostbyte|> warpzone, hi.
[08:55] <warpzone> kopete
[08:55] <MetaMorfoziS> kopete
[08:55] <trappist> |lostbyte|: kopete
[08:55] <MetaMorfoziS> ;)
[08:55] <trappist> I think we have a consensus
[08:55] <|lostbyte|> argh.. thanks Guys
[08:55] <MetaMorfoziS> little cpmcprd
[08:55] <MetaMorfoziS> little concord
[08:55] <MetaMorfoziS> :D
[08:55] <warpzone> if you dont mind the occasionaly crash. there's also Gaim
[08:56] <MetaMorfoziS> erhm
[08:56] <MetaMorfoziS> for me it never crashed
[08:56] <warpzone> but my KDE disagreed with GTK based stuff
[08:56] <nuku> but first priority was "kde program" :)
[08:56] <MetaMorfoziS> but we hate gtk:)
[08:56] <zorglu_> no we dont hate
[08:57] <Chousuke> I wonder if I should remap capslock to esc
[08:57] <MetaMorfoziS> ;)
[08:57] <MetaMorfoziS> zorglu_:  okay, a big half of this room's users hate it.
[08:57] <warpzone> MEtaMorfoziS: yknow, I still can't decide. I love KDE, but I'm back to Gnome temporarily until I find out why firefox was leaking so badly only in KDE
[08:57] <nuku> we sure do hate GObject and like QObject ;P
[08:57] <zorglu_> MetaMorfoziS: i hope not
[08:57] <MetaMorfoziS> warpzone: the best thing that annyos me is firefox is gtk:/
[08:58] <Chousuke> would be a lot easier if caps lock was esc
[08:58] <nuku> well opera is Qt .. here we go ;)
[08:58] <MetaMorfoziS> yes, i'm familiar with opera
[08:58] <warpzone> MEtaMorfoziS: yeah that and I really wish kTorrent dht protocal was standardized with other clients
[08:59] <MetaMorfoziS> but why that guys can't add extension support erhm?:(((
[09:00] <nuku> well might come with 10.. but i never needed an extension anyway :) (maybe a very little customized buttons or userjs but not mandatory)
[09:00] <MetaMorfoziS> opera is faster in javascript than any other...:( the javascript debugger is better than any other firefox ext:( but it haven't got exts only malvareous widgets, don't have skins, but have some children-faults and the menu-s are idiot...
[09:00] <subi> hola
[09:00] <subi> necesito ayuda por favor
[09:00] <subi> algien puede exarmen una mano???
[09:00] <zorglu_> !es
[09:00] <MetaMorfoziS> nuku: for webdeveloping, i need some very important that - i'think - opera don't have
[09:00] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:00] <Admiral_Chicago> !es > subi
[09:01] <subi> dime
[09:01] <nuku> MetaMorfoziS: what is that? tried the webdeveloper toolbar?
[09:01] <MetaMorfoziS> but firefox like t eat 150%of my ram:(
[09:01] <MetaMorfoziS> nuku fr firefox, yes:)
[09:01] <Admiral_Chicago> zorglu_: for future refence if you do a !command > user they get the message without showing the channel
[09:01] <nuku> MetaMorfoziS: for opera :)
[09:01] <MetaMorfoziS> and colorzilla, and firebug, and others
[09:01] <nuku> MetaMorfoziS: operawiki.info
[09:01] <zorglu_> Admiral_Chicago: i knew this command
[09:01] <MetaMorfoziS> i check
[09:01] <warpzone> firefoxed forced me to restart x a few times a day
[09:02] <nuku> i use the kde color picker ;)
[09:03] <MetaMorfoziS> detto...:D but it's a habit...
[09:03] <MetaMorfoziS> from windows:)
[09:03] <nuku> :)
[09:03] <MetaMorfoziS> sometimes i use that if i forget it
[09:03] <nuku> hehe well its in the upper right corner of my screen so i get always remembered ;)
[09:04] <MetaMorfoziS> earch results: 0 matches for webdeveloper
[09:04] <MetaMorfoziS> i forget it is able in a kicker applet...
[09:04] <nuku> http://operawiki.info/WebDevToolbar
[09:04] <MetaMorfoziS> but anywhere thecolorpicker forms
[09:04] <MetaMorfoziS> you can grab colors
[09:05] <MotorCityMadMan> !flash
[09:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:06] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody have infos about flash 9 for linux?
[09:06] <MotorCityMadMan> !flashplayer
[09:06] <nuku> MetaMorfoziS: just some blogging ..
[09:06] <MetaMorfoziS> yes.. but other?
[09:06] <Admiral_Chicago> MetaMorfoziS: sec
[09:06] <nuku> http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/
[09:06] <Admiral_Chicago> http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/
[09:06] <nuku> hehe :)
[09:06] <MotorCityMadMan> http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_flash_player9
[09:07] <MenZa> eenteresting
[09:07] <DaSkreech> Hello can anyone help with a complaining scsi Kernel module?
[09:07] <nuku> yeah you can always use wine.. opera runs very fast in wine btw :)
[09:07] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: wow. SCSCI eh?
[09:08] <DaSkreech> Yeah :-)
[09:08] <Admiral_Chicago> i can't help you but good luck man
[09:08] <DaSkreech> It's throwing an error I can't figure out if I can fix
[09:08] <cox377___> does anyone here use MSI motherboards with kubuntu?
[09:10] <Lechero> someone know the day of the official realease of kubuntu edgy?
[09:10] <Admiral_Chicago> !schedule > Lechero
[09:10] <Admiral_Chicago> i think its the 21
[09:11] <Lechero> thanks Admiral_Chicago
[09:11] <Lechero> 26 ;)
[09:11] <Admiral_Chicago> np
[09:13] <MetaMorfoziS> cox377___: yes i have
[09:15] <cox377___> MetaMorfoziS: do u know the MSI utilities app that u can get under windows?
[09:15] <cox377___> MetaMorfoziS: i was wondering if there was something similar for linux?
[09:15] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm only used that crap for updating drivers
[09:15] <MetaMorfoziS> but it is worst forit...
[09:15] <MetaMorfoziS> what other you need?
[09:16] <cox377___> MetaMorfoziS: well that was all, just drivers.. so did u update the drivers for your mobo over and above the standard linux ones?
[09:16] <MetaMorfoziS> i dunno what that can, i don't like the integrated internet explorer based high-skinned apps
[09:16] <MetaMorfoziS> cox377___: linux have all drivers that you need
[09:17] <MetaMorfoziS> i think.
[09:17] <MetaMorfoziS> it supports all standard or welldocumented protocolls, functions, devices...
[09:17] <muthana> ss
[09:17] <cox377___> MetaMorfoziS: yeh i know.. as good as it is i was just wondering if there was anyway using there own drivers.. found it made a massive difference in performance after doing it 4 windowz
[09:18] <MetaMorfoziS> i don't think msi develops drivers for msi
[09:18] <MetaMorfoziS> for linux, sry
[09:18] <MetaMorfoziS> but, i don't think is there a big difference
[09:18] <MetaMorfoziS> between a well driver-ed win and linux
[09:18] <cox377___> Nah.. it was a shot in the dark.. not too worry
[09:19] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm not sensed any difference, btw.
[09:20] <MetaMorfoziS> i have kt880 neo or what... "kt" and 880 is fix, but i don't know from head it's precise type:)
[09:22] <DaSkreech> Is there a Kubuntu DVD?
[09:22] <oheard> Yes
[09:22] <terwilliger> Hi guys. I've yet to be able to set Kubuntu to recognize Thunderbird as default email client, or FF as default browser. Clicking a link in Tbird doesn't launch FF. Clicking a mailto link in FF doesn't launch T'bird. What am I doing wrong?
[09:22] <Surger> DaSkreech: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[09:23] <Surger> Bottom of the page
[09:23] <MetaMorfoziS> terwilliger: forget "system settings"
[09:23] <oheard> terwilliger: change it in the control centre.
[09:23] <MetaMorfoziS> instead use the kcontrol
[09:23] <MetaMorfoziS> and set the default programs
[09:23] <MetaMorfoziS> in kde components
[09:23] <oheard> System Settings has that...
[09:23] <orkid__> is there a way to install kubuntu booting from a 64MB USB (or floppy, or whatever) and doing a net install?
[09:23] <DaSkreech> Surger: Damn :(
[09:24] <terwilliger> 'K. Thanks
[09:24] <MetaMorfoziS> the problem in thunderbird is easy to solve with one line in pref.js iirc, find about it on ubuntuforums.org
[09:24] <finalbeta> After I change/start a song in amarok, the player hangs a couple of seconds. Any idea's why?
[09:24] <Surger> DaSkreech: You don't like DVD isos?
[09:24] <oheard> terwilliger: in System Settings goto KDE Components. :-)
[09:25] <MetaMorfoziS> i said forget it from ratty
[09:25] <MetaMorfoziS> that app is a crap recreation of kcontrol...
[09:25] <MetaMorfoziS> i don't know why it needed
[09:25] <DaSkreech> Surger: No I had a Ubuntu DVD and tried to apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and it threw up
[09:26] <Surger> Hmmm ... sounds bad. :)
[09:26] <finalbeta> Seriously, is this normal behaviour for amarok? Stalling for seconds after every song change?
[09:26] <oheard> finalbeta: no, it is not.
[09:27] <terwilliger> OK...checked Kcontrol, and the KDE components are Tbird and FF. It's set right, it just don't act right ;)
[09:27] <maryen> whoo im registered now
[09:27] <MetaMorfoziS> <3s ?
[09:27] <oheard> loves.
[09:27] <oheard> It's a heart see. <3
[09:27] <DaSkreech> Surger: Yeah Kind of hard to keep EVERYTHING in memory
[09:27] <maryen> i like amarok
[09:27] <MetaMorfoziS> and how "hates" writed in leet language?
[09:27] <MetaMorfoziS> :D
[09:28] <maryen> </3 amarok
[09:28] <oheard> idd.
[09:28] <MetaMorfoziS> :DDD
[09:28] <MetaMorfoziS> idd?
[09:28] <oheard> Although it isn't "leet", it's just an emote... :P
[09:28] <oheard> indeed
[09:28] <MetaMorfoziS> sry:)
[09:28] <maryen> terwilliger... ive heard that name before
[09:29] <maryen> simpsons reference?
[09:29] <terwilliger> maryen: Uh...don't think so...
[09:29] <oheard> Past life maybe?
[09:29] <oheard> ;-)
[09:29] <maryen> gah maybe
[09:29] <maryen> i swear ive heard that name used on the simpsons before
[09:30] <oheard> Damn, cheap fast food and chocolate makes me feel funny. :-(
[09:30] <terwilliger> Gotta be a past life. In a past life, I was a plumber's helper in a bathroom in Blind Staggers Arizona. I don't talk about it much
[09:30] <maryen> which i will now go watch
[09:30] <danbuntu> terwilliger is side show bobs surname isn't it?
[09:30] <maryen> that was before you went down the pipes and discovered the mushroom kingdom right?
[09:30] <maryen> omg yes it is!
[09:30] <oheard> Rofl.
[09:30] <terwilliger> Right! How'd you know?
[09:31] <danbuntu> mis spent years at uni
[09:31] <terwilliger> How do you think it makes me feel? Everybody else gets to be Marie Antoinette in a past life, and all I got to talk about is clogged toilets. It's traumatic.
[09:31] <maryen> lol im still at uni, and misspending my years
[09:32] <maryen> you also got to fight koopas and stuff
[09:32] <gupta> which exaclt is the "X11 development package" ?
[09:32] <gupta> exactly
[09:32] <danbuntu> and drive go-karts
[09:32] <terwilliger> Not even that...I wasn't the plumber, I was that plunger thing the plumber uses
[09:32] <maryen> ah, so you traveled with mario
[09:33] <maryen> gupta: xorg-dev
[09:33] <terwilliger> Well...I spent my time sitting behind the toilet in a nice little Queen Ann, so I can't even talk about travels.
[09:33] <gupta> maryen: ok, thanks
[09:33] <oheard> I can see a great novel forming here, "The New Adventures of Plunger and Mario".
[09:33] <maryen> lol
[09:34] <terwilliger> Be well. I'm off to see if I can fix this
[09:35] <maryen> go finish kde 4
[09:35] <maryen> i wants it bad
[09:35] <oheard> xD
[09:36] <danbuntu> or just some decent screenshots
[09:36] <maryen> ya that would be nice too
[09:37] <vonHalenbach-de> me 2
[09:38] <DaSkreech> lol
[09:38] <DaSkreech> danbuntu: It will
[09:38] <maryen> lol it works better than xgl
[09:38] <nuku> :p
[09:38] <vonHalenbach-de> :)
[09:38] <DaSkreech> maryen, vonHalenbach-de: You know that most people are going to skin it to look like windows anyway :)
[09:38] <maryen> or osx
[09:39] <nuku> or kde 3 :)
[09:39] <vonHalenbach-de> Yeah, that may be true, because they feel more familiar with windows look. Feal at home.
[09:39] <vonHalenbach-de> feel
[09:40] <_27147789511060> Soir !
[09:40] <maryen> but this isnt linspire, its kubuntu
[09:40] <vonHalenbach-de> I certainly don't want the vista look.
[09:40] <DaSkreech> Bet no one tries to skin it to look like e ^_^
[09:40] <DaSkreech> LinuxXP :)
[09:40] <vonHalenbach-de> I like to try new things, walk new ways.
[09:40] <MetaMorfoziS> DaSkreech: kde4 is able to run ?
[09:41] <MetaMorfoziS> when it comes out?
[09:41] <maryen> someone needs to skin it to look like fvwm
[09:41] <hacosta_> hi, is there a way to remove all panels from kde
[09:41] <apokryphos> no release date set for KDE 4 yet
[09:41] <hacosta_> including kicker
[09:41] <apokryphos> and no, it doesn't really run
[09:41] <apokryphos> hacosta_: killall -9 kicker
[09:42] <DaSkreech> MetaMorfoziS: Yeah You can apt0-get it in Edgy now if you want
[09:42] <vonHalenbach-de> bye
[09:42] <MetaMorfoziS> hacosta_: why?:D
[09:43] <hacosta_> im going to try it this way
[09:43] <hacosta_> thanks apokryphos
[09:43] <hacosta_> i use alt+f2 to start all my apps anyway
[09:43] <MetaMorfoziS> you know...
[09:43] <apokryphos> hacosta_: yeah, but seeing which apps you have running in some sort of taskbar is useful ;)
[09:43] <DaSkreech> hacosta_: Yes alt+Space :)
[09:44] <apokryphos> not that I use alt+f2 anymore :O. Good ol' kickoff
[09:44] <hacosta_> apokryphos: middle click ftw
[09:44] <apokryphos> kickoff is rapidly making katapult obsolete
[09:44] <Admiral_Chicago> apokryphos: are you on edgy?
[09:44] <MetaMorfoziS> why you don't want kicker?
[09:44] <Surger> Can someone tell me why I can't run apps on my external USB disk? I get a "sudo: unable to execute ./build.sh: Permission denied" message.
[09:44] <hacosta_> kickoff?
[09:44] <apokryphos> the only thing it can't do now, still, is amarok track-changing
[09:45] <BluesKaj> what does katapult do ?
[09:45] <apokryphos> hacosta_: SUSE KDE Menu
[09:45] <apokryphos> I heard talk that Kubuntu might use it, but I have no idea
[09:45] <apokryphos> !katapult
[09:45] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[09:45] <MetaMorfoziS> Surger: i think its aproblem about the permission system
[09:45] <maryen> katapult rocks
[09:45] <hacosta_> katapult is going to be the default some day?
[09:45] <MetaMorfoziS> i think your storage is vfat
[09:45] <DaSkreech> apokryphos: kickoff?
[09:45] <maryen> i <3 it
[09:45] <Admiral_Chicago>   katapult does not work for me at all
[09:45] <apokryphos> Admiral_Chicago: haven't used kubuntu in a couple of months, but I was then
[09:45] <BluesKaj> thx apokryphos
[09:45] <hacosta_> i really like the stanfard alt+fs
[09:45] <Surger> MetaMorfoziS: It's ext3
[09:45] <hacosta_> f2.
[09:46] <MetaMorfoziS> that isn't handles all perms that ext3
[09:46] <MetaMorfoziS> eh
[09:46] <MetaMorfoziS> okay, i don't know then
[09:46] <Surger> MetaMorfoziS: I see the problem - it's mounted with noexec :(
[09:46] <apokryphos> DaSkreech: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[09:46] <MetaMorfoziS> eheheh
[09:47] <apokryphos> hacosta_: it's good, but limited
[09:47] <Admiral_Chicago> i think i'm going to purge katapult and reinstall it
[09:47] <apokryphos> why?
[09:47] <DaSkreech> apokryphos: Nice. Why would that make katapult obsolete?
[09:47] <Surger> MetaMorfoziS: What app does the auto mounting?
[09:47] <MetaMorfoziS> mount
[09:47] <MetaMorfoziS> your mount list is
[09:47] <hacosta_> katapult doesnt understand for example gg:foo
[09:47] <MetaMorfoziS> /etc/fstab
[09:48] <MetaMorfoziS> if you boot it moutns all thing in fstab
[09:48] <MetaMorfoziS> but you can do it manually: mount -a or umount -a
[09:48] <MetaMorfoziS> (with sudo)
[09:48] <apokryphos> hacosta_: kickoff does :D
[09:48] <Surger> No this is automounted when plugged in - no entry in fstab
[09:49] <nuku> kickoff reads your mind? :)
[09:49] <MetaMorfoziS> oh, that is a kde magic, i dunno that, butif you put a line in fstab, and mount -a it works, imho
[09:49] <MetaMorfoziS> or mount manually
[09:49] <apokryphos> nuku: yup ;-)
[09:49] <DaSkreech> apokryphos, hacosta_: It can :)
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> it says it has started but doen't do aynthing after that
[09:50] <apokryphos> kickoff has beagle incorporated into it
[09:50] <nuku> apokryphos: is thre something more than the flash? like actual sourcecode? ;)
[09:50] <apokryphos> which actually works so well now; no complaints with it
[09:50] <DaSkreech> apokryphos, hacosta_: It's plugin based so it can do most anything that you can type and search for :)
[09:50] <nuku> kickoff is not a nice word to google for :P
[09:50] <apokryphos> nuku: it's been on SUSE 10.2 for some time now
[09:50] <apokryphos> DaSkreech: talking about katapult? Bah.
[09:50] <nuku> apokryphos: any site? before i start messing with keywords?
[09:50] <Admiral_Chicago> apokryphos: sound like a hater to me
[09:51] <wildchild> how do I set up my mic
[09:51] <apokryphos> nuku: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2393
[09:51] <wildchild> It's logitech's
[09:51] <apokryphos> Admiral_Chicago: I like katapult very much, I just think that it's more-or-less obsolete now that kickoff's around
[09:52] <apokryphos> I don't have it auto-starting anymore, since I haven't found myself needing to use it
[09:52] <nuku> apokryphos: thanks i'll give it a try :)
[09:52] <Admiral_Chicago> apokryphos: ah yes i agree about kickoff
[09:53] <linuxkid2> Does anyone know of a Kicker applet that does Beagle and Google search?
[09:53] <DaSkreech> apokryphos: Can You turn off stuff in kickoff?
[09:53] <apokryphos> linuxkid2: kickoff ;-)
[09:54] <apokryphos> DaSkreech: like disable one of the tabs? Not that I know of yet
[09:54] <DaSkreech> Or limit it's search range
[09:54] <apokryphos> DaSkreech: you can, yes
[09:55] <apokryphos> the beagle part to kickoff is essentially kerry-beagle
[09:55] <linuxkid2> I already have Kerry
[09:55] <linuxkid2> Does it integrate?
[09:55] <nuku> apokryphos: are you taking part in development of it?
[09:55] <apokryphos> yes
[09:55] <apokryphos> nope
[09:55] <linuxkid2> ??
[09:56] <nuku> two binary answers in a row confuse people ;)
[09:56] <apokryphos> linuxkid2: as in it does integrate in some ways. It displays search results inline, but for expansion of results etc full kerry window is launched
[09:56] <Admiral_Chicago> linuxkid2: yes it integrates but
[09:56] <apokryphos> it also inherits kerry settings for indexing etc
[09:56] <linuxkid2> sounds ok
[09:57] <Admiral_Chicago> apokryphos: much better than i was going to explain
[09:57] <linuxkid2> I tought that the kerry indexing was Beagle. I once installed XFCE and the Kerry settings imported into Beagle
[09:57] <nuku> quite huge sourcetree ......
[09:57] <apokryphos> linuxkid2: kerry is a kde front-end to beagle, so yes -- you change beagle settings from kerry
[09:57] <linuxkid2> I know. Thanks.
[09:58] <j2daosh> who usesd k3b?
[09:58] <Admiral_Chicago> j2daosh: i do
[09:58] <apokryphos> j2daosh: the majority of people here
[09:58] <j2daosh> have you ever tried to back up more then 4 gigs on a dvd?
[09:58] <j2daosh> i have 21 gigs of files i need to backup
[09:58] <Admiral_Chicago> apparent it is popular with GNOME people
[09:58] <nuku> apokryphos: do you know if it has already been "debianized"?
[09:59] <j2daosh> can i just add them all to the project now and when a disc gets full it will ask for another one and continue?
[09:59] <Admiral_Chicago> j2daosh: i don't think so
[09:59] <Phlogistique> j2daosh: tar+bz2 or tar.7z maybe ?
[09:59] <apokryphos> nuku: if there's a debian package? I wouldn't know. Quick search on Google suggests there's instructions apparently for installing it on Ubuntu
[09:59] <j2daosh> dang
[09:59] <j2daosh> ok
[09:59] <j2daosh> thanks
[09:59] <nuku> apokryphos: well still checking out the svn ;)
[10:00] <Admiral_Chicago> j2daosh: i think you may want to check this out http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page
[10:00] <nuku> apokryphos: well more like the debian/* structure to easily backport it :)
[10:00] <Lechero> is hope xgl on kubuntu edgy?
[10:00] <apokryphos> not yet, I'd guess
[10:00] <DaSkreech> No but faith XGL is
[10:00] <Admiral_Chicago> Lechero: i'm running it...
[10:00] <maryen> wth is hope and fate xgl?
[10:01] <Admiral_Chicago> kubuntu edgy beta 1 with XGL/compiz
[10:01] <Lechero> Admiral_Chicago: work fine xgl on kde?
[10:01] <linuxkid2> What package is it in? I searched for Kickoff with Adept but found nothing. I do have Universe enabled.
[10:01] <nuku> linuxkid2:  there is no package for it in the repositories
[10:01] <linuxkid2> :-(
[10:01] <linuxkid2> Compile?
[10:02] <Surger> Does anyone know how the automount thing in KDE works?
[10:02] <Admiral_Chicago> Lechero: compiz has a memory leak but yes
[10:02] <linuxkid2> Not to well.
[10:02] <Admiral_Chicago> it took a whilu to install
[10:02] <maryen> which do you like better admiral, xgl or beryl?
[10:02] <Admiral_Chicago> i kill compiz, get my memory back and restart compiz
[10:02] <maryen> er compiz, or beryl
[10:02] <Admiral_Chicago> never seen beryl or used it
[10:03] <BluesKaj> !gnormalize
[10:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnormalize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:03] <nuku> compiz is deprecated beryl is the way to go
[10:03] <linuxkid2> Just curiose, what's E17 like?
[10:03] <maryen> as far as i know, beryl works better with kde than compiz does
[10:03] <Lechero> of course, really i am waiting edgy for the new init :) the xgl is not more important
[10:03] <scion> ello
[10:04] <nuku> and i think xgl will also be replaces by aiglx everywhere..
[10:04] <nuku> replaced
[10:04] <soulrider> does anyone know hwo i can mount an ISO image of linux and make it bootable to be used on vmware ?
[10:04] <maryen> yeah im thinking so too
[10:04] <Lechero> nuku i agree with you
[10:05] <BluesKaj> whynot just dualboot ?
[10:05] <Lechero> soulrider: mount -o loop file.iso /mount/point
[10:05] <maryen>  beryl and aiglx was the first i got running on my own
[10:05] <maryen> though ive seen kororaa with xgl
[10:05] <oheard> soulrider: in the config for the virtual machine change the CD-ROM to an ISO image, you can do that there. :D(-<
[10:05] <soulrider> i tried that i think, but vmware wouldnt boot
[10:05] <soulrider> ahh thanks
[10:05] <linuxkid2> Is there a Kickoff debian package available somewhere?
[10:06] <oheard> linuxkid2: www.apt-get.org should help you with that! :-D
[10:07] <linuxkid2> Might it be in the Seveas repo?
[10:07] <oheard> meh..
[10:07] <oheard> !info kickoff
[10:07] <ubotu> Package kickoff does not exist in any distro I know
[10:10] <brainiacTLB> hooray, linux saved the day
[10:10] <linuxkid2> Um, I don't think I want Kickoff. It's a replacement for KMenu. I want just a little search box for the panel to search either Google or Beagle, like Firefox sorta.
[10:11] <oheard> !info kbfx
[10:11] <brainiacTLB> laptop died, booted off pclinuxOS, copying files to main rig, then installing kubuntu
[10:11] <ubotu> kbfx: a new K-Menu for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.8+cvs20060413-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 193 kB, installed size 804 kB
[10:11] <linuxkid2> thanks, but still, not sure...
[10:11] <oheard> Look at some screenshots on the website. :-)
[10:11] <sredna> linuxkid2: Fir KDE, press ALT + F2 and type "gg: SEARCHPHRASE" to search with google
[10:12] <Lechero> one of the next steps of kubuntu may to have a best solutions for palms devices, now the pda work but when kpilot want and not when you want
[10:12] <nuku> linuxkid2: why not just use the "run command" kicker applet?
[10:12] <sredna> linuxkid2: I do not know if there is a protocol for beagle that works in KDE, but it would probably be quite easy to produce one
[10:12] <nuku> linuxkid2: you could install kio-beagle so you just type beagle://whatever
[10:13] <linuxkid2> Oh, well,, the idea was to have something similar to the Firefox search bar for Kicker.
[10:13] <zorglu_> !strigi
[10:13] <Lechero> i read about one k proyect for create a beagle for kde
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about strigi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <zorglu_> kde has a desktop search tool called strigi
[10:14] <Lechero> but i am waiting for the google desktop for kde :)
[10:14] <Karol84PL> Hello, is anyone who used Democracy TV Platform application? What speed of Internet connection is need to watch Tv like that? (sorry for my english ...)
[10:14] <linuxkid2> oh, well, maybe I just have to write it if I want t. (dunno how tho)
[10:16] <zorglu_> Karol84PL: it uses bittorrent so the speed at which you download the data depends on the speed of your link but there are no minimal
[10:17] <Karol84PL> zorglu: thanks, i thought it is via live streaming
[10:17] <sorush20> what is an easy imaging program out there that help backup the root partiton as an image. ?
[10:18] <linuxkid2> dd ?
[10:18] <Lechero> Democracy TV Plataform is like Live Tv ?
[10:18] <Lechero> tv p2p
[10:18] <sorush20> Lechero: no you can get bbc on there
[10:19] <zorglu_> Lechero: do you have a url for 'live tv' ?
[10:20] <jtholmes> how do i read   something pasted at paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:20] <Lechero> yes zorglu_ but Live Tv is only for windows :( http://live-tv-player.en.softonic.com/ie/47499
[10:20] <zorglu_> thanks
[10:20] <Lechero> jtholmes: you must have the url of the page where are been pasted the text
[10:20] <max1> hi
[10:21] <jtholmes> Lechero: ok thanks i figured that  such as  paste.../25600
[10:21] <Lechero> jtholmes: something like that
[10:21] <jtholmes> Lechero: ok
[10:22] <wildchild> does messenger in kopete support audio conversation
[10:22] <linuxkid2> wildchild: if it doesn't aMSN does.
[10:23] <wildchild> so I have to apt-get install msn ?
[10:23] <linuxkid2> amsn
[10:23] <linuxkid2> i thinj
[10:23] <linuxkid2> aptitude search msn
[10:24] <kubuntu> hola
[10:26] <lupo> i can't mount DVD
[10:26] <lupo> only cd works on it
[10:27] <kubuntu> alguien que hable espaol
[10:27] <helena> where can I set edgy to suspend when on battery power and idle for 10 minutes?
[10:27] <zorglu_> !es
[10:27] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:29] <zorglu_> helena: 'kmenu -> system setting -> laptop & power "
[10:30] <helena> no such thing there
[10:30] <helena> should I install something and how will it work together with guidance-power-manager?
[10:31] <zorglu_> well i have it there :) i dunno why you dont
[10:46] <mabreaux> Does kubuntu get the same attention as ubuntu or is it a step-child?
[10:47] <Admiral_Chicago> mabreaux: yes it does
[10:47] <mabreaux> then why is ubuntu so much cleaner and well polished?
[10:47] <Surger> mabreaux: kubuntu is ubuntu with KDE instead of Gnome. All the base packages are common.
[10:48] <Surger> mabreaux: You mean gnome it polished? The underlying system is identical.
[10:48] <mabreaux> Will kubuntu support kde 4.0 when it is released?
[10:48] <Admiral_Chicago> mabreaux: i think GNOME has a minimalist style
[10:48] <Kubu> yes
[10:48] <Admiral_Chicago> mabreaux: yes
[10:48] <Homer> lol
[10:48] <Homer> nope it won't :)
[10:48] <Admiral_Chicago> but KDE has menus and things like that
[10:48] <Kubu> it will
[10:48] <Admiral_Chicago> i can't find anything in gnome
[10:49] <Homer> yeah I'm commenting on the absurdity of the question
[10:49] <mabreaux> gnome drive me crazy
[10:49] <Kubu> i prefer kde as well
[10:49] <Admiral_Chicago> mabreaux: me too. kde is easier to navigate imo
[10:49] <Homer> well you are in the right channel
[10:49] <mabreaux> gnome has a very nice wirenetwork manager and kde does not why?
[10:50] <Surger> mabreaux: I dunno - go and ask the KDE guys. :)
[10:50] <Admiral_Chicago> mabreaux: the one KDE introduced is knetworkmanager and it isn't developed
[10:50] <Admiral_Chicago> they just released it a few months ago
[10:50] <Surger> But you can run most gnome apps in KDE
[10:50] <Surger> Just launch them from console
[10:51] <Homer> you can put them into a menu
[10:52] <wildchild> where do I get plugins for my mic and web cam
[10:52] <wildchild> so aMSN will recognize them
[10:57] <jhutchins_wk> Why is kdeprint unable to add a printer?
[10:59] <mario_> ola
[11:05] <nuku> hmm this kickoff code is really messy :p
[11:07] <AWOSDev> When I go to open a file in any application, namely KolourPaint but happens in OpenOffice too, some files are missing.
[11:08] <AWOSDev> But they show up when I do an ls in the directory.
[11:08] <AWOSDev> It affects all directories on the computer, including on NTFS and ext3 partitions.
[11:09] <AWOSDev> If I type the name of the file in, they do open.  So the files are there but they are not listed.
[11:09] <AWOSDev> What could be the problem?
[11:09] <wildchild> why fon't install easycam or easycam2 despite I added deb file into my /etc/apt/source.list and update it :S
[11:10] <AWOSDev> When I go to open a file in any application, namely KolourPaint but happens in OpenOffice too, some files are missing.
[11:11] <AWOSDev> It affects all directories on the computer, including on NTFS and ext3 partitions.  If I do an ls -al on the console however they are there.  I am the owner.  The permissions are 766.
[11:12] <lluka> hey can someone help me with my fstab, im trying to make it read write for user 1000
[11:12] <nuku> but kickoff is not that bad usability wise :)
[11:13] <AWOSDev> nuku, huh?  Were you talking to me, lluka or wildchild?
[11:13] <lluka> anyone hehhe
[11:13] <nuku> no just continue the topic an hour ago :)
[11:14] <AWOSDev> nuku hehe
[11:14] <bertha> !es
[11:14] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:14] <lluka> u woudlnt happen to know how to make a partition read write for user would u? :S
[11:14] <AWOSDev> lluka, I mount my partitions with 'mount', I don't use fstab.  So no, sorry...
[11:15] <nuku> AWOSDev: you may have this annoying /.hidden file? ;)
[11:15] <AWOSDev> lluka, maybe type "man fstab" on the Konsole...
[11:15] <lluka> hmm
[11:15] <AWOSDev> nuku, I turned on "Show Hidden Files" already, and when I did even more disappeared.  Every time the file picker refreshes more disappear.
[11:15] <lluka> i did this years ago but i cant remember how
[11:15] <lluka> :/
[11:16] <AWOSDev> lluka, like I said try "man fstab", it gives helpful info.
[11:16] <nuku> AWOSDev: mh..
[11:16] <nuku> AWOSDev: but ls -al show the files?!
[11:16] <AWOSDev> nuku, what does mh mean?
[11:16] <AWOSDev> nuku, yep.
[11:17] <nuku> AWOSDev: just wondering what that might be :)
[11:17] <AWOSDev> nuku, they are all PNG files and they all have the same basic file name.
[11:17] <AWOSDev> nuku, to be honest, they are pictures of road signs.
[11:18] <AWOSDev> so it's like I-95 N Exit20.png
[11:18] <nuku> AWOSDev: :) maybe you missed a turn right sign where all the file are now :p *scnr*
[11:18] <AWOSDev> nuku LOL
[11:19] <AWOSDev> nuku Exits 20-32 are missing.
[11:19] <AWOSDev> but I'm looking at 21 right now, just opened it.
[11:19] <tmdx120> identify 5percent
[11:19] <AWOSDev> tmdx120, bad idea giving out your password :P
[11:20] <tmdx120> AWOSDev: It has been doing that ever since I upgraded. I have no idea why. Can you help me with that?
[11:20] <wildchild> hello has anyone here try to install web cam?
[11:20] <AWOSDev> tmdx120, what did you upgrade?  to Edgy?
[11:21] <tmdx120> AWOSDev: dapper
[11:21] <AWOSDev> tmdx120, then what did you upgrade?
[11:21] <AWOSDev> nuku, any idea why the KDE File Picker doesn't like I-95 northbound?
[11:21] <tmdx120> AWOSDev: about 3 mos ago. its taken me this long to get to the last few issues!  LOL!
[11:21] <Homer> how do I close an ethernet device
[11:22] <AWOSDev> tmdx120, not *when* but *what*, was it Konversation, GAIM, Kopete?
[11:22] <nuku> AWOSDev: no idea... can you open the file by typing in its full name?
[11:22] <AWOSDev> Homer, sudo ifconfig eth0 down
[11:22] <AWOSDev> nuku yep
[11:22] <Janitux> !
[11:22] <tmdx120> AWOSDev:  it was a system upgrade from breezy
[11:22] <nuku> AWOSDev: so it is just missing in the file list?!
[11:22] <AWOSDev> tmdx120, ahhhhhhh okay I get it now
[11:22] <AWOSDev> nuku, yep
[11:22] <nuku> strange ..
[11:23] <mabreaux> I was at Borders books and music last night and saw a book called "Beginning Ubuntu Linux From Novice to Professional" by Keir Thomas published by apress.
[11:23] <AWOSDev> tmdx120, which client are you using?  irssi, GAIM, Konversation, Kopete, ...
[11:23] <AWOSDev> mabreaux, yep seen it at Barnes & Noble.
[11:23] <mabreaux> any have any coments on it
[11:23] <tmdx120> AWOSDev: konversation, can you help?
[11:23] <mabreaux> any one read it.
[11:24] <AWOSDev> mabreaux, uh it's a little newb for me, I have 5 years of *nix administration under my belt
[11:24] <AWOSDev> tmdx120, Yep that's what I would use if I could open it
[11:24] <AWOSDev> tmdx120, I personally IDENTIFY in the Freenode window, not the channel window
[11:24] <tmdx120> AWOSDev: how do I do that?
[11:25] <mabreaux> I have 15 of at&t and bsd under mine and just starting in linux....   I like what ubuntu and kubuntu have done so far.
[11:25] <AWOSDev> tmdx120, see the tabs?  At the bottom?
[11:25] <tmdx120> AWOSDev: <-----newbie. Yes I see the tabs..
[11:25] <Homer> how you put a computer on standby mode
[11:25] <AWOSDev> tmdx120, you calling me a newbie or you a newbie? :P
[11:25] <AWOSDev> Homer, ACPI or APM?
[11:25] <Homer> acpi
[11:25] <AWOSDev> mabreaux, yeah compared to FreeBSD, Linux is fairly easy
[11:26] <AWOSDev> Homer, hold on a sec
[11:26] <tmdx120> AWOSDev: ME  LOL!
[11:26] <mabreaux> Trying to find out how much unix command are used in linux and if they work the same.
[11:26] <tmdx120> AWOSDev: when I get to the tab that says freenode what do I do?
[11:26] <Homer> alot
[11:26] <Homer> linux iss more of a superset of unix
[11:26] <mabreaux> on freebsd, you are complete correct on that....
[11:26] <AWOSDev> tmdx120, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY whatever-your-password-is
[11:27] <linuxkid2> mabreaux: that is GNU, and BASH. Most are the same, cat, cd, less, grep, awk.
[11:27] <Tailsfan> Hello
[11:27] <mabreaux> sorry I do not wish to work that hard for my free time...  so I tried red hat, suse and ended up staying with kubuntu
[11:28] <mabreaux> sorry I do not like gnume
[11:28] <mabreaux> gnome
[11:28] <AWOSDev> mabreaux, I hate GNOME personally.
[11:28] <AWOSDev> :)
[11:28] <Tailsfan> 1. How much does a server install use? and 2. How much does kubuntu-desktop take up after installing the server editon
[11:28] <tmdx120> AWOSDev: now what?
[11:28] <AWOSDev> tmdx120, now your password doesn't come up anymore
[11:28] <linuxkid2> If I had the system power I'd try E17 or Compiz, but KDE is as good as I can do.
[11:28] <AWOSDev> tmdx120, that's where you need to Identify, not in the Channel tab but the Freenode tab.
[11:29] <tmdx120> AWOSDev:  that is all I have to do?
[11:29] <AWOSDev> tmdx120, yep :)
[11:29] <tmdx120> AWOSDev: do I do that every time?
[11:29] <AWOSDev> man stabndy
[11:29] <AWOSDev> oops sorry wrong shell
[11:29] <narasim_7> Tailsfan: 2 gb minimum..for the entire install..
[11:29] <bertha> !es
[11:29] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:29] <Tailsfan> The server
[11:30] <dre> hee kubuntuers...
[11:30] <tmdx120> AWOSDev: can I change my password?
[11:30] <narasim_7> Tailsfan: within 1GB but confirm with someone else
[11:30] <Tailsfan> I gues 500 Mb for the server
[11:30] <Tailsfan> Oh :(
[11:31] <Tailsfan> So much for installing Kubuntu for me then
[11:31] <linuxkid2> how is hibernae accomplished? My computer is older so no ACPI.
[11:31] <narasim_7> Tailsfan: why?
[11:31] <mabreaux> what ever happen to "mh" and "k shell" ?
[11:31] <AWOSDev> tmdx120, yeah but I don't remember how.
[11:32] <tmdx120> AWOSDev: ThANKS!!!!
[11:32] <linuxkid2> mabreaux: they're available, but Linux uses bash, and cshell is there for scripts.
[11:32] <AWOSDev> tmdx120, np :)
[11:32] <Tailsfan> Because I was going to install the server with it's GUI but I have limited disk space to do it
[11:32] <tmdx120> Im trying to get my palm to sync to kpilot, can anyone help?
[11:32] <AWOSDev> mabreaux, sudo apt-get install ksh
[11:32] <narasim_7> Tailsfan: when u do a server install ...theres no X
[11:33] <AWOSDev> mabreaux, that's the Real Genuine AT&T Korn Shell
[11:33] <mabreaux> I notice that bash has a lot of the features of both c and k.  or am I just mistaken?
[11:33] <narasim_7> Tailsfan: so possibly when u do install X ..u will atmost need a Window manager
[11:33] <narasim_7> max within 1 GB ..
[11:33] <linuxkid2> I've never used anything but bash and busybox (DSL).
[11:34] <wildchild> how can I communicate through aMSN if it can't recognize mic ?
[11:34] <linuxkid2> Tailsfan: XFCE or Fluxbox might suit you better.
[11:34] <mabreaux> can anyone recommend a good book on python?  I know c, c++ and c++ dcom, but not python.
[11:34] <Tailsfan> But the Kubuntu Disk does not contain those
[11:34] <narasim_7> Tailsfan: yeah..
[11:34] <Tailsfan> I was going to install from the disk
[11:35] <linuxkid2> Ah
[11:35] <narasim_7> Tailsfan: u can do a server install and then do a "sudo apt-get install fluxbox" in the login shell
[11:35] <GNUro> in edgy my flash player don't work.. it play the audio, but don't show any in video O_o... why?
[11:35] <narasim_7> Tailsfan: but you will have to install xorg..so make sure you install xorg
[11:36] <narasim_7> Tailsfan: what about RAM and swap
[11:36] <Tailsfan> Swap?
[11:36] <nuku> GNUro: change your display depth to 24
[11:36] <narasim_7> Tailsfan: if u have less disk space for kubuntu..then how are u going to allocate swap space?
[11:37] <GNUro> nuku: ok
[11:37] <Tailsfan> Hmm, Good Point, Hold on, let me get you my disk size currently
[11:38] <Tailsfan> 3.99 GB, but i can clear some
[11:38] <linuxkid2> Tailsfan: fluxbox is in Universe, so you'll have to manually edit your sources.list before you can install it.
[11:38] <narasim_7> Tailsfan: can u get 3.99 gb for kubuntu or less than that
[11:39] <narasim_7> Tailsfan: oh..total is 3.99 han?
[11:39] <Tailsfan> total is 5.99 Gigs, But I have Windows 2000 in here as well
[11:40] <narasim_7> Tailsfan: oh..k
[11:40] <mabreaux> I tried to "sudo apt-get install gnome" for testing on my kubuntu system, and the would not boot after that.  why?
[11:41] <narasim_7> Tailsfan: the point is that u shld have twice the size of ram as swap..but atleast as big as ram..shld do..otherwise..the performance will be very poor..
[11:41] <Tailsfan> Yeah I only have 128 MB RAM
[11:41] <evol_> mabreaux: what's the error message after booting?
[11:42] <AWOSDev> Homer, you still there?
[11:42] <narasim_7> Will kubuntu take some portion of / as swap space when no swap partition is present?
[11:42] <AWOSDev> narasim_7, no you will have no swap space.
[11:42] <narasim_7> AWOSDev: ah! ok thanks
[11:42] <AWOSDev> narasim_7, np
[11:43] <linuxkid2> You can set any disk image or rw device as swap, usually partitions, but you CAN format a disk image as swap and use that.
[11:43] <_Sime> mabreaux: You could try the book "Dive into Python".
[11:43] <mabreaux> no error, goes for grub to a black screen and locks up
[11:43] <mabreaux> thanks I check out the book
[11:44] <narasim_7> linuxkid2: have u tried edgy ?
[11:44] <TFrog> anyone here running the edgy native broadcom drivers?
[11:45] <linuxkid2> no, I never was really happy with alpha aoftware. beta's ok thouhg :)
[11:45] <narasim_7> linuxkid2: :)
[11:45] <mabreaux> I tried drapper native broadcom drivers and does not support above 10 mps on a b/g card
[11:45] <linuxkid2> Sysinfo for 'josh-desktop': Linux 2.6.15-27-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: PentiumIII(Katmai) at 449 MHz (899 bogomips), , RAM: 310/313MB, 97 proc's, 5.12h up
[11:46] <bertha> !es
[11:46] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:46] <linuxkid2> that's why not using elnightenment or XGL
[11:46] <AWOSDev> linuxkid2, how'd you do that?
[11:46] <mabreaux> will xgl run on drappr?
[11:46] <AWOSDev> mabreaux, no :(
[11:46] <linuxkid2> the command is /SYSINFO
[11:46] <TFrog> ty mabreaux.  i've been in communications via email with the ubuntu staff.  they are telling me the edgy kernel supports the WPA with the fwcutter.  not sure on speed though
[11:47] <AWOSDev> linuxkid2:    bash: /SYSINFO: No such file or directory
[11:47] <linuxkid2> no, in Konverstaion
[11:47] <benjamin> Anyone knows how i change name on the NFS-icon on the desktop?
[11:47] <narasim_7> Sysinfo for 'ubuntu': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU2.40GHz at 2400 MHz (4803 bogomips), , RAM: 246/248MB, 88 proc's, 30.5min up
[11:47] <AWOSDev> linuxkid2: LOL I'm kinda dumb :P
[11:47] <mabreaux> that will be go to switch to wpa for web
[11:47] <mabreaux> wep
[11:47] <narasim_7> linuxkid2: ;)
[11:48] <narasim_7> AWOSDev: i too tried with bash
[11:48] <TFrog> i'm not thrilled about WEP from my days doing telephone tech support for a major ISP here in the states
[11:49] <AWOSDev> Sysinfo for 'lappy': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPI: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPI1.60GHz at 1600 MHz (unknown bogomips), , RAM: 494/494MB, unknown proc's, 2days 2:20 up
[11:49] <AWOSDev> ^ typed manually :)
[11:49] <mabreaux> neither am I, too easy to crack
[11:49] <narasim_7> AWOSDev: 2 days :O
[11:49] <AWOSDev> narasim_7 that's a big deal?
[11:50] <AWOSDev> narasim_7 I've gotten 12 days out of this laptop
[11:50] <TFrog> mabreaux, the only good secure network is wired.  i know a kid who has been able to hack into WPA netorks in a half hour with the right tools via linux
[11:50] <narasim_7> AWOSDev: because i am staying in chennai india and its summer all throughout the year..
[11:50] <mabreaux> I can do that too , but ask him how long it take him to get into a wep system
[11:51] <AWOSDev> narasim_7, what does that have to do with uptime?
[11:51] <linuxkid2> I've got old hardware on my Wireless network, so I'm stuck with WEP 128
[11:51] <TFrog> probably less than 5 minutes.  lol
[11:51] <narasim_7> AWOSDev: the system has to be on right?
[11:51] <AWOSDev> narasim_7 yeah :)
[11:52] <narasim_7> AWOSDev: here due to overheating the system may reboot..and sometimes fail..and we dont have enough support down here
[11:52] <dre> truste
[11:52] <AWOSDev> narasim_7 Ahhhhhhhh okay
[11:52] <mabreaux> in linux how does NFS support laptops which leave the system occasionally?  I know *nix does not like it much>
[11:53] <narasim_7> *narasim_7 doesnt have such an airconditioed room :(
[11:53] <AWOSDev> narasim_7, oh I'm sorry, really truly sorry
[11:53] <narasim_7> AWOSDev: thats ok..i am blessed enough to get a computer..
[11:53] <AWOSDev> narasim_7 I went without A/C down here in sunny Florida, USA once earlier this year in July.  Got up to 88 degrees *inside* the house
[11:54] <TFrog> ouch AWOSDev.  i know that feeling here in SC.  wouldn't be nice without AC
[11:54] <narasim_7> AWOSDev: oh..thats  worse..
[11:54] <narasim_7> TFrog: SC?
[11:54] <AWOSDev> I had three computers on :)
[11:54] <AWOSDev> narasim_7, South Carolina
[11:54] <TFrog> South Carolina, US
[11:54] <narasim_7> AWOSDev: ah..!
[11:54] <narasim_7> TFrog: ok..
[11:54] <cpk2> AWOSDev: psh this last summer was way hot in san diego, I dont have a/c =)
[11:55] <mabreaux> Pine Valley, Ca (near San Diego, ca)
[11:55] <cpk2> the heat wave was not very fun though
[11:55] <TFrog> mabreaux, thanks for the bit of info about fwcutter.
[11:55] <AWOSDev> Yeah my Linux-based server hit an all time high, 50 degrees celsius :O
[11:55] <narasim_7> mabreaux: yeah
[11:55] <TFrog> mabreaux, you make me jealous.  i did 12 years in San Diego as a squid.  lol
[11:55] <mabreaux> not a porblem,  I am trying to resolve but no luck so far.
[11:56] <mabreaux> san diego has nice weather...
[11:56] <AWOSDev> Well I have guests coming over, so I best be off
[11:56] <AWOSDev> Bye all!
[11:56] <TFrog> i know.  i'm ex navy and as i said, i spent 12 years there
[11:56] <narasim_7> AWOSDev: bye
[11:56] <TFrog> later AWOSDev
[11:56] <mabreaux> bye
[11:56] <AWOSDev> It's nice to be said bye to by so many eople :)
[11:57] <mabreaux> bye for now
[11:57] <narasim_7> bye all..gonna get some sleep..its 3 already..
[11:57] <linuxkid2> I'm still here.
[11:58] <bertha> !es
[11:58] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:59] <linuxkid2> What would one call Ubuntu + Fluxbox? Fubuntu?
[11:59] <mabreaux> I have to go and get some stuff done....  be back on later.  bye for now
[11:59] <josh_> !mp3
[11:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:00] <linuxkid2> What would one call Ubuntu + Fluxbox? Fubuntu? Ubuntubox?
[12:00] <Tm_T> ubuntu
[12:01] <linuxkid2> Tm_T: that's not so creative.
[12:01] <Tm_T> that's exactly what it is
[12:01] <Tm_T> it's ubuntu
[12:01] <draik> How do you ghost a HDD?
[12:02] <draik> can it be done with Kubuntu?
[12:02] <josh_> norton ghost
[12:02] <linuxkid2> Ubuntu is Gnome, Kubunut is KDE, Xubuntu is XFCE.
[12:02] <Tm_T> no separate repositories, no separate artwork, nothing that divide it from ubuntu
[12:02] <draik> josh_ no windows here, just kubuntu
[12:02] <Tm_T> I use WindowMaker and it's still Ubuntu
[12:02] <Tm_T> draik: hmm, maybe dd helps
[12:02] <draik> dd?
[12:02] <linuxkid2> I just want to be creative with my Fluxbox installation. Not technical.
[12:03] <Tm_T> draik: no idea, just guessing
[12:03] <ka6sox> Tm_T if I use windowmaker and like KDE apps I should install kubuntu?
[12:03] <cpk2> ka6sox: you dont need to, apt-get will install everything the apps need anyways
[12:03] <Tm_T> yes
[12:03] <Tm_T> all one big family of community
[12:04] <Tm_T> linuxkid2: well, then name it as "foobar"
[12:04] <Tm_T> that's creative and non-technical ;)
[12:05] <linuxkid2> Yeah yeah ok.
[12:06] <ka6sox> its okay...so far I"ve tried 3 different ubuntu install discs and NONE of them completely install the OS.
[12:06] <ka6sox> 3 different versions even
[12:06] <Tm_T> good night kids, have fun ->
[12:06] <ka6sox> even *Debian* can do that.
[12:07] <ka6sox> where is the best place to ask PPC questions?
[12:09] <soulrider> oh NO! i need URGENT HELP!
[12:09] <soulrider> instead of hitting safely remov eon my pen drive
[12:09] <soulrider> i hit move to waste bin
[12:09] <soulrider> and my files got deleted!
[12:09] <soulrider> how an i recover them?!
[12:09] <josh_> u can't
[12:10] <josh_> sry
[12:10] <Chousuke> move back from waste bin?
[12:10] <soulrider> i opened my trash can and theyr enot there
[12:10] <josh_> maybe there is some sort of tool
[12:10] <Chousuke> hmm
[12:10] <soulrider> there MUST be a way
[12:10] <josh_> go into adept and type recovery
[12:10] <Chousuke> hm
[12:10] <soulrider> adept manager ?
[12:10] <Chousuke> is the USB drive unmounted now?
[12:11] <soulrider> no
[12:11] <thygrrr> heyas! I'm trying to get LWJGL to work... I have an ATI Radeon X1600 ... the apps work, but terribly screw up the x server once they quit. in fact things are so screwed up that I need to reboot.
[12:11] <soulrider> its mounted
[12:11] <Chousuke> they might be on the USB drive, in a .Trash-Something folder
[12:11] <Chousuke> it's hidden.
[12:11] <soulrider> i managed to hit cancel while it was deleting though
[12:11] <thygrrr> any clues on this one? first thing I need to know anyway is how to kill the x server in a proper way... I can switch to a tty once, but i can never switch back once things go bad.
[12:11] <soulrider> oh yes