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porkpie_ | BenC:hi | 12:38 |
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porkpie_ | BenC:has it failed again ?/ | 12:39 |
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porkpie_ | BenC:are you still here | 01:48 |
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tritium | BenC: I believe jldugger is correct. My bug is the same as #61979. | 03:42 |
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poptones | hello? | 04:21 |
poptones | pingaling, i have a question about tv cards | 04:22 |
poptones | hello? | 04:23 |
crimsun | just ask, and if someone can answer, (s)he will. | 04:27 |
BenC | anyone here have ich8 chipset machine that uses the achi driver? | 04:55 |
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=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:tfheen] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | Kernel GIT tree info (updated): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide | 2.6.17-10.27 uploaded. | Daily kernel builds (for debug and testing purposes only) http://people.ubuntu.com/~bcollins/kernels-daily/ | Kernel Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryKernel | KernelFreeze in effect | ||
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tormod | BenC, prism2 now works! thanks. But why is there no /proc/net/p80211? | 09:56 |
tfheen | hi tormod | 09:58 |
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gnomefreak | heres a weird question that might be very important for dapper. why does libc6-dev depend on a kernel dapper doesnt use? | 11:49 |
gnomefreak | heres te depends for it http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libdevel/libc6-dev | 11:49 |
gnomefreak | nvm its > | 11:49 |
infinity | It doesn't depend on a kernel at all. | 12:05 |
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gnomefreak | infinity: from that link it says it depends on linux-headers-2.6.11 or greater | 12:38 |
infinity | Not "linux-headers", but "linux-kernel-headers", which are the userspace headers, and not directly tied to the running kernel in any way. | 12:39 |
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infinity | We've rnamed that package in edgy to "linux-libc-dev" to be a bit less confusing to people. | 12:39 |
gnomefreak | yeah i saw that but he wants us to change those packages so he can run his 3rd party app | 12:41 |
infinity | ...? | 12:42 |
gnomefreak | infinity: he saying the linux-headers-2.6.11 is not right for his program | 12:43 |
infinity | Err, why not? | 12:45 |
infinity | No runtime application should care what headers you have installed, and I've not run into anything that wouldn't compile on dapper. | 12:45 |
gnomefreak | infinity: i dont know let me see if i cant find his complaint | 12:46 |
gnomefreak | roconnor > gnomefreak: my program that I downloaded uses the PAGE_SIZE in a statically allocated array. | 12:47 |
gnomefreak | roconnor > gnomefreak: but in linux-headers, one has #define PAGE_SIZE (1UL << PAGE_SHIFT) | 12:48 |
infinity | He shouldn't include asm/page.h anyway, but use sysconf() to get PAGE_SIZE | 12:51 |
gnomefreak | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~zandy/ckpt/ is what he is building | 12:51 |
gnomefreak | i told him it was his script/code that wasnt calling it correctly but he insists its "our" fault | 12:52 |
infinity | Tell him to use sysconf(_SC_PAGESIZE) instead of the PAGE_SIZE constant, and it'll be all good. | 12:53 |
gnomefreak | ok | 12:54 |
infinity | A newer set of userspace kernel headers won't suddenly make using PAGE_SIZE correct, I assure you. | 12:55 |
infinity | I've been eradicating PAGE_SIZE usage left, right, and centre for the last year. | 12:55 |
gnomefreak | ah | 12:55 |
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porkpie_ | BenC:are you in today ??? | 02:33 |
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BenC | zul, kylem: Please add your email addresses to https://wiki.canonical.com/UdsMountainViewSponsorships | 03:38 |
zul | BenC: we need a password to get into that | 03:40 |
zul | but its zulcss@gmail.com | 03:40 |
BenC | Ah, that's right, it's canonical wiki | 03:40 |
kylem | feel free to just add my email (kyle@mcmartin.ca) | 03:46 |
BenC | thanks | 03:48 |
BenC | if either of you need anything or have any questions, email me or Claire Newman | 03:48 |
zul | ok | 03:49 |
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TheBearded1_ | anybody in here know anything about the difference between -general and -386 linux-image packages? | 03:49 |
kylem | BenC, ok, cool, cheers | 03:51 |
crispin_ | Guys, I was wondering if you have an insight into why the ubuntu (dapper) kernel was about 10% slower for tcp traffic than a stock 2.6.15 kernel. We have a benchmark that does about 87000 connections per second under 2.6.15, but only 75000 under the ubuntu kernel | 03:52 |
tonfa | crimsun: same sysctl settings ? | 03:57 |
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porkpie_ | BenC:hi any luck with the kernel ??? | 04:19 |
BenC | porkpie_: I need to upload it, and my sat connection is real messed up because of this storm | 04:34 |
porkpie_ | BenC:ok ...no problem ...let me know when | 04:35 |
porkpie_ | BenC:where are you located .. | 04:35 |
BenC | virginia | 04:36 |
zul | BenC: : i have the xen crack merged for 2.6.19 i just have to showhorn the debian/rules et al | 04:37 |
infinity | zul: Say, speaking of Xen... | 04:37 |
infinity | zul: How many more upload before the FTBFS goes away? :) | 04:37 |
BenC | lol | 04:37 |
zul | this upload should build fine | 04:38 |
infinity | "this"...? | 04:38 |
infinity | As in, your next one? :) | 04:38 |
zul | the one im uploading right now | 04:39 |
infinity | kylem: Ooo, you're going to be in Mountain View? | 04:39 |
kylem | yessir. | 04:40 |
infinity | Spiff. Would be cool to meet after all these years. | 04:40 |
kylem | indeed! | 04:40 |
infinity | We can sit around saying "eh" and "aboot" and such. | 04:41 |
infinity | Or, as I generally request of Jeff, bring me maple syrup, and other reminders of home. :) | 04:41 |
kylem | :) | 04:41 |
thom | and then i can laugh at infinity saying aboot in an aussie accent | 04:41 |
infinity | Oh, ouch. That sounds like it would hurt just trying. | 04:42 |
infinity | Adding a dipthong to the "oo" in "aboot" would probably break me. | 04:42 |
thom | heh | 04:43 |
infinity | diphthong, even. Zofia would kill me for misspelling that. | 04:44 |
mjg59 | infinity: You can drink Pimms! | 04:45 |
infinity | You'll have to force it down my gullet. | 04:45 |
mjg59 | Get with the program | 04:46 |
infinity | I look forward to being in a country that knows what a Long island Iced Tea is, though. | 04:46 |
mjg59 | Kernel hackers + Pimms = goodness | 04:46 |
zul | kylem: ylejust bring some american maple syrup they wont nkow the differences.. | 04:47 |
zul | stupid lag | 04:47 |
kylem | cruel. :) | 04:47 |
infinity | I'm pretty sure I couldn't tell you the difference between Vermont and south-east Ontario, unless I saw landmarks, so I doubt the syup's much different. | 04:48 |
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zul | heh south-east ontario is flat and vermount is not :) | 04:49 |
infinity | zul: I'm a westerner, I'm ignorant of these things. I just know that both have maple trees. :) | 04:50 |
zul | lol | 04:56 |
infinity | Besides, I'm sure I'd consider both flat, given that I grew up in the rockies. | 04:56 |
zul | heh im originally from vancouver | 04:57 |
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mjg59 | BenC: That ata_piix change is going to nuke some other hardware support | 06:44 |
BenC | mjg59: I'm going to look over the diff and try to backport the other stuff...problem is the new driver is a regression | 06:45 |
mjg59 | Sure | 06:45 |
mjg59 | Just making sure you know it may hit something else :) | 06:45 |
mjg59 | My suspicion would be the ich8_map_db stuff | 06:46 |
mjg59 | One of those entries may be incorrect and mapping the ports to the wrong thing | 06:46 |
BenC | I wish someone who had the time and hw could work on it | 06:48 |
BenC | right now, I'm working on it from remote, and at 1 second latency, ssh really sucks | 06:48 |
mjg59 | I'm supposed to be getting an ICH8 board, but I've no idea how long it'll take | 06:49 |
mjg59 | Can't you get Mark to spring for one? | 06:49 |
BenC | not sure I can get it in time | 06:50 |
BenC | let me ask him | 06:51 |
BenC | I have 4 spare xeon procs, maybe I can just pick up a mobo | 06:51 |
mjg59 | The right sort of Xeons? | 06:51 |
BenC | latest ones, marked Intel Confidential :) | 06:51 |
mjg59 | Ah | 06:51 |
mjg59 | Ought to do :) | 06:51 |
BenC | 2@2.6hz, and 2@3ghz | 06:52 |
thom | 3GHz woodcrests? shiny | 06:53 |
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BenC | (II) I810(0): direct rendering: Enabled | 07:05 |
BenC | sweet, fixes i965 | 07:05 |
zul | gar...redhat.. | 07:32 |
zul | yay it works | 07:35 |
zul | * edgy i386 Successfully built | 07:35 |
zul | * edgy amd64 Successfully built | 07:35 |
infinity | zul: Processing new queue now. | 07:35 |
zul | sweet.. | 07:35 |
zul | i told you..:) | 07:35 |
infinity | You told me the last few uploads would build too. :P | 07:37 |
zul | yeah i know.. | 07:37 |
zul | meh... | 07:37 |
infinity | Oh, since this is an ubuntu-specific source package, can you do me a huge favour and change your section in debian/control from "base" to "universe/optional", so I can stop manually overriding evey single package? :) | 07:39 |
infinity | Err, not universe/optional, but universe/base, I guess. | 07:40 |
infinity | Or whatever. Just get the "universe/" in there for everything. | 07:40 |
zul | sure.. | 07:41 |
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BenC | mjg59: ping | 10:53 |
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rouzic | Hi all | 10:58 |
rouzic | I have a problem with the modules madwifi-ng of the kernel in Edgy | 11:00 |
gnomefreak | rouzic: you might be better off asking in #ubuntu | 11:17 |
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porkpie_ | BenC:Are we getting there ? | 12:12 |
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