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porkpie_BenC:hi12:38
porkpie_BenC:has it failed again ?/12:39
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porkpie_BenC:are you still here01:48
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tritiumBenC: I believe jldugger is correct.  My bug is the same as #61979.03:42
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poptoneshello?04:21
poptonespingaling, i have a question about tv cards04:22
poptoneshello?04:23
crimsunjust ask, and if someone can answer, (s)he will.04:27
BenCanyone here have ich8 chipset machine that uses the achi driver?04:55
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=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:tfheen] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | Kernel GIT tree info (updated): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide | 2.6.17-10.27 uploaded. | Daily kernel builds (for debug and testing purposes only) http://people.ubuntu.com/~bcollins/kernels-daily/ | Kernel Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryKernel | KernelFreeze in effect
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tormodBenC, prism2 now works! thanks. But why is there no /proc/net/p80211?09:56
tfheenhi tormod09:58
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gnomefreakheres a weird question that might be very important for dapper. why does libc6-dev depend on a kernel dapper doesnt use?11:49
gnomefreakheres te depends for it http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libdevel/libc6-dev11:49
gnomefreaknvm its >11:49
infinityIt doesn't depend on a kernel at all.12:05
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gnomefreakinfinity: from that link it says it depends on linux-headers-2.6.11 or greater12:38
infinityNot "linux-headers", but "linux-kernel-headers", which are the userspace headers, and not directly tied to the running kernel in any way.12:39
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infinityWe've rnamed that package in edgy to "linux-libc-dev" to be a bit less confusing to people.12:39
gnomefreakyeah i saw that but he wants us to change those packages so he can run his 3rd party app12:41
infinity...?12:42
gnomefreakinfinity: he saying the linux-headers-2.6.11 is not right for his program12:43
infinityErr, why not?12:45
infinityNo runtime application should care what headers you have installed, and I've not run into anything that wouldn't compile on dapper.12:45
gnomefreakinfinity: i dont know let me see if i cant find his complaint12:46
gnomefreakroconnor > gnomefreak: my program that I downloaded uses the  PAGE_SIZE in a statically allocated array.12:47
gnomefreakroconnor > gnomefreak: but in linux-headers, one has #define  PAGE_SIZE       (1UL << PAGE_SHIFT)12:48
infinityHe shouldn't include asm/page.h anyway, but use sysconf() to get PAGE_SIZE12:51
gnomefreakhttp://www.cs.wisc.edu/~zandy/ckpt/ is what he is building12:51
gnomefreaki told him it was his script/code that wasnt calling it correctly but he insists its "our" fault12:52
infinityTell him to use sysconf(_SC_PAGESIZE) instead of the PAGE_SIZE constant, and it'll be all good.12:53
gnomefreakok12:54
infinityA newer set of userspace kernel headers won't suddenly make using PAGE_SIZE correct, I assure you.12:55
infinityI've been eradicating PAGE_SIZE usage left, right, and centre for the last year.12:55
gnomefreakah 12:55
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porkpie_BenC:are you in today ???02:33
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BenCzul, kylem: Please add your email addresses to https://wiki.canonical.com/UdsMountainViewSponsorships03:38
zulBenC: we need a password to get into that03:40
zulbut its zulcss@gmail.com 03:40
BenCAh, that's right, it's canonical wiki03:40
kylemfeel free to just add my email (kyle@mcmartin.ca)03:46
BenCthanks03:48
BenCif either of you need anything or have any questions, email me or Claire Newman03:48
zulok 03:49
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TheBearded1_anybody in here know anything about the difference between -general and -386 linux-image packages?03:49
kylemBenC, ok, cool, cheers03:51
crispin_Guys, I was wondering if you have an insight into why the ubuntu (dapper) kernel was about 10% slower for tcp traffic than a stock 2.6.15 kernel. We have a benchmark that does about 87000 connections per second under 2.6.15, but only 75000 under the ubuntu kernel03:52
tonfacrimsun: same sysctl settings ?03:57
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porkpie_BenC:hi any luck with the kernel ???04:19
BenCporkpie_: I need to upload it, and my sat connection is real messed up because of this storm04:34
porkpie_BenC:ok ...no problem ...let me know when 04:35
porkpie_BenC:where are you located ..04:35
BenCvirginia04:36
zulBenC: : i have the xen crack merged for 2.6.19 i just have to showhorn the debian/rules et al04:37
infinityzul: Say, speaking of Xen...04:37
infinityzul: How many more upload before the FTBFS goes away? :)04:37
BenClol04:37
zulthis upload should build fine04:38
infinity"this"...?04:38
infinityAs in, your next one? :)04:38
zulthe one im uploading right now04:39
infinitykylem: Ooo, you're going to be in Mountain View?04:39
kylemyessir.04:40
infinitySpiff.  Would be cool to meet after all these years.04:40
kylemindeed!04:40
infinityWe can sit around saying "eh" and "aboot" and such.04:41
infinityOr, as I generally request of Jeff, bring me maple syrup, and other reminders of home. :)04:41
kylem:)04:41
thomand then i can laugh at infinity saying aboot in an aussie accent04:41
infinityOh, ouch.  That sounds like it would hurt just trying.04:42
infinityAdding a dipthong to the "oo" in "aboot" would probably break me.04:42
thomheh04:43
infinitydiphthong, even.  Zofia would kill me for misspelling that.04:44
mjg59infinity: You can drink Pimms!04:45
infinityYou'll have to force it down my gullet.04:45
mjg59Get with the program04:46
infinityI look forward to being in a country that knows what a Long island Iced Tea is, though.04:46
mjg59Kernel hackers + Pimms = goodness04:46
zulkylem: ylejust bring some american maple syrup they wont nkow the differences..04:47
zulstupid lag04:47
kylemcruel. :)04:47
infinityI'm pretty sure I couldn't tell you the difference between Vermont and south-east Ontario, unless I saw landmarks, so I doubt the syup's much different.04:48
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zulheh south-east ontario is flat and vermount is not :)04:49
infinityzul: I'm a westerner, I'm ignorant of these things.  I just know that both have maple trees. :)04:50
zullol04:56
infinityBesides, I'm sure I'd consider both flat, given that I grew up in the rockies.04:56
zulheh im originally from vancouver04:57
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mjg59BenC: That ata_piix change is going to nuke some other hardware support06:44
BenCmjg59: I'm going to look over the diff and try to backport the other stuff...problem is the new driver is a regression06:45
mjg59Sure06:45
mjg59Just making sure you know it may hit something else :)06:45
mjg59My suspicion would be the ich8_map_db stuff06:46
mjg59One of those entries may be incorrect and mapping the ports to the wrong thing06:46
BenCI wish someone who had the time and hw could work on it06:48
BenCright now, I'm working on it from remote, and at 1 second latency, ssh really sucks06:48
mjg59I'm supposed to be getting an ICH8 board, but I've no idea how long it'll take06:49
mjg59Can't you get Mark to spring for one?06:49
BenCnot sure I can get it in time06:50
BenClet me ask him06:51
BenCI have 4 spare xeon procs, maybe I can just pick up a mobo06:51
mjg59The right sort of Xeons?06:51
BenClatest ones, marked Intel Confidential :)06:51
mjg59Ah06:51
mjg59Ought to do :)06:51
BenC2@2.6hz, and 2@3ghz06:52
thom3GHz woodcrests? shiny06:53
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BenC(II) I810(0): direct rendering: Enabled07:05
BenCsweet, fixes i96507:05
zulgar...redhat..07:32
zulyay it works07:35
zul    * edgy i386 Successfully built07:35
zul    * edgy amd64 Successfully built07:35
infinityzul: Processing new queue now.07:35
zulsweet..07:35
zuli told you..:)07:35
infinityYou told me the last few uploads would build too. :P07:37
zulyeah i know..07:37
zulmeh...07:37
infinityOh, since this is an ubuntu-specific source package, can you do me a huge favour and change your section in debian/control from "base" to "universe/optional", so I can stop manually overriding evey single package? :)07:39
infinityErr, not universe/optional, but universe/base, I guess.07:40
infinityOr whatever.  Just get the "universe/" in there for everything.07:40
zulsure..07:41
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BenCmjg59: ping10:53
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rouzicHi all10:58
rouzicI have a problem with the modules madwifi-ng of the kernel in Edgy11:00
gnomefreakrouzic: you might be better off asking in #ubuntu11:17
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porkpie_BenC:Are we getting there ?12:12

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