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[12:18] <crimsun> Trewas: excellent. I knew I had been recommended the latest bios for a reason. :-)
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[03:46] <tritium> mjg59, crimsun: the kernel/display bug I mentioned a few days ago appears to be what Hobbsee reported in #61979
[03:47] <crimsun> bug 61979
[03:47] <tritium> yes
[03:48] <crimsun> (That was for Ubugtu, not you.)
[03:48] <tritium> sorry
[03:48] <crimsun> np :-)
[03:50] <tritium> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-i810/+bug/61979
[03:50] <crimsun> tritium: so the workaround there also works?
[03:50] <tritium> since Ubugtu isn't responding.
[03:50] <crimsun> [works for you] 
[03:50] <tritium> That I need to verify.
[03:56] <tritium> be right back...
[03:58] <tritium> Sweet, the workaround does work :)
[03:59] <tritium> My first time in X on a kernel version > 2.6.17-7
[03:59] <crimsun> great :-)
[03:59] <tritium> Yeah!  Good for an installed system, but how to work around it on a livecd?
[04:00] <tritium> i.e., I still can't install the beta
[04:01] <crimsun> good question. I'd use the alternate.
[04:03] <tritium> okay
[04:03] <tritium> At least the bug is confirmed, and High
[04:04] <crimsun> (rather, that there is a known workaround and a means of installing Edgy Beta)
[04:04] <tritium> Yes, you're right.  Just have to download a new .iso now ;)
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[04:43] <jldugger> i donno if thats exactly good for an installed system
[04:43] <jldugger> yea, it works better than X crashes
[04:43] <jldugger> but no acpi on a laptop is so 1999
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[05:22] <spanky_> Hello. Is there anyone here with a couple of minutes who is good with power management issues? I have a Toshiba satellite. Intel M 1.6Mhz and have been trying to get things running properly for a while now. It clocks the CPU at 600Mhz 100% It says CPU freq. Scaling is unsuported. And I have yet too hear the fan come on even thought he machine get's fairly warm. 53C right now.
[05:22] <jldugger> dont cook it
[05:23] <jldugger> dapper or edgy?
[05:23] <spanky_> dapper
[05:25] <jldugger> so when you run "sudo invoke-rc.d powernowd restart"
[05:25] <jldugger> what's it say?
[05:26] <spanky_>  * Stopping powernowd:                                                   [ ok ] 
[05:26] <spanky_>  * Starting powernowd...  * CPU frequency scaling not supported
[05:28] <spanky_> I'm sure it's just that I've missed some package or module somewhere but I can't for the life of me figure out which
[05:29] <jldugger> which model satellite?
[05:30] <spanky_> Satellite M30                  Model #: PSM33C-YSJ00E
[05:30] <jldugger> at any rate if it gets above 65, turn it off, let it cool off and pop in the live cd, see if the same thing happens
[05:31] <jldugger> try "sudo lsmod | grep acpi" anything come out?
[05:33] <spanky_> yes toshiba_acpi 0             sony_acpi 0                  pcc_acpi   0     dev_acpi 0       acpi_sbs 0            battery 1 acpi_sbs         ac 1 acpi_sbs           i2c_acpi_ec 1 acpi_sbs         i2c_core 2 i2c_acpi_ec, nvidia
[05:36] <jldugger> interesting
[05:37] <jldugger> try "sudo lsmod | grep speedstep" 
[05:37] <spanky_> I've had it for a while and have been fiddling trying to get the darn thing working properly so not sure if I've made it worse or better...well obviously not any better since it's still not quiet right
[05:38] <spanky_> no speedstep modules found
[05:43] <jldugger> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MataroSessionsWorkshops/CPUFreqModuleLoading
[05:44] <jldugger> grab that script and lemme know what it suggestse 
[05:51] <spanky_> speedstep-centrino
[05:52] <jldugger> next step, try putting that guy in the kernel
[05:52] <jldugger> "sudo modprobe speedstep-centrino"
[05:52] <spanky_> FATAL: Error inserting speedstep_centrino (/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-centrino.ko): No such device
[05:54] <jldugger> hmm
[05:54] <jldugger> "cat /proc/cmdline"
[05:55] <spanky_> root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash
[05:56] <jldugger> hmm
[05:56] <jldugger> looking at launchpad, it seems that the Pentium Ms may have a bios bug
[05:56] <spanky_> I'm not a big poweruser and try not to toy with the kernel if at all possible. My experiences in gentoo showed that nothing good ever came from toying with what you don't understand
[05:56] <jldugger> heh
[05:57] <spanky_> launchpad?
[05:57] <jldugger> well, just wanted to check out how badly you'd screwed things up, but you seem okay so far
[05:57] <jldugger> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/28433
[05:57] <jldugger> launchpad is a web service canonical uses for stuff like project management
[05:59] <jldugger> anyways
[05:59] <jldugger> "sudo modprobe acpi-cpufreq"
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[06:01] <spanky_> FATAL: Error inserting acpi_cpufreq (/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/acpi-cpufreq.ko): No such device
[06:04] <jldugger> p4-clockmod?
[06:05] <spanky_> that installed
[06:06] <jldugger> excellent
[06:06] <jldugger> now try to restart powernowd
[06:08] <spanky_> powernowd: PowerNow Daemon v0.97, (c) 2003-2006 John Clemens
[06:08] <spanky_> powernowd: Found 1 scalable unit:  -- 1 'CPU' per scalable unit
[06:08] <spanky_> powernowd:   cpu0: 75Mhz - 600Mhz (8 steps)
[06:08] <jldugger> hmm
[06:08] <spanky_> looks like a step in the right direction
[06:09] <jldugger> add a cpu frequency scaling monitor to your gnome-panel
[06:10] <spanky_> have 1 running and it's bouncing around between 400-600Mhz now
[06:10] <spanky_> but it's a 1.6Ghz Processor that still thinks 60Mhz is it's max
[06:10] <spanky_> 600mhz
[06:13] <Nailor> Do you have the latest bios onboard?
[06:14] <spanky_> in all honesty not sure. I've never tried to do bios updates using linux. Have always done them under windows as a quick download the exe and run
[06:14] <Nailor> You still got windows on that machine?
[06:15] <Nailor> Apparently the updating is possible if required bios update is burned on cd and installed from there, if windows is not present
[06:15] <Nailor> Dunno still will the bios update fix the problem
[06:21] <spanky_> Is there a manual way to tell the powernow daemon that it's got the max CPU speed wrong? Does it gget this from a config file somewhere?
[06:22] <Nailor> Well, one option would be shutting down powernowd
[06:22] <Nailor> Though, if the speedstep-centrino is not working, the scaling capabilities will be lost then
[06:24] <spanky_> I stopped powernowd and the CPU freq is still changing
[06:24] <Nailor> oh
[06:25] <Nailor> Not going over 600 though?
[06:25] <spanky_> still capped out at 600
[06:26] <spanky_> ...and it's failing to restart
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