[05:34] <lguerra> @schedule bogota
[05:34] <Ubugtu> Schedule for America/Bogota: 06 Oct 05:00: Accessibility Team | 09 Oct 09:00: MOTU | 10 Oct 15:00: Technical Board | 11 Oct 15:00: Edubuntu | 12 Oct 10:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 17 Oct 07:00: Community Council
[06:18] <nixternal> @schedule chicago
[06:18] <Ubugtu> Schedule for America/Chicago: 06 Oct 05:00: Accessibility Team | 09 Oct 09:00: MOTU | 10 Oct 15:00: Technical Board | 11 Oct 15:00: Edubuntu | 12 Oct 10:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 17 Oct 07:00: Community Council
[08:17] <unix_infidel> 4am accesibility meeting?
[08:18] <robitaille> it's not 4m for everyone around the world  :)
[08:19] <unix_infidel> granted, but it sounds like my old job :)
[09:18] <Cabb> How many hours left to the accessibility meeting?
[09:21] <robitaille> 2.5 hours
[09:22] <robitaille> it's 7:21 UTC..and the meeting is at 10:00 UTC
[09:24] <Cabb> Good, then I'll be able to make it. Always have trouble with these timezones
[09:27] <robitaille> @schedule UTC
[09:27] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Etc/UTC: 06 Oct 10:00: Accessibility Team | 09 Oct 14:00: MOTU | 10 Oct 20:00: Technical Board | 11 Oct 20:00: Edubuntu | 12 Oct 15:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 17 Oct 12:00: Community Council
[09:27] <robitaille> @schedule US/Pacific
[09:27] <Ubugtu> Schedule for US/Pacific: 06 Oct 03:00: Accessibility Team | 09 Oct 07:00: MOTU | 10 Oct 13:00: Technical Board | 11 Oct 13:00: Edubuntu | 12 Oct 08:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 17 Oct 05:00: Community Council
[09:28] <robitaille> @schedule pacific
[09:28] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Canada/Pacific: 06 Oct 03:00: Accessibility Team | 09 Oct 07:00: MOTU | 10 Oct 13:00: Technical Board | 11 Oct 13:00: Edubuntu | 12 Oct 08:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 17 Oct 05:00: Community Council
[09:28] <robitaille> @schedule pacific-new
[09:28] <Ubugtu> Schedule for US/Pacific-New: 06 Oct 03:00: Accessibility Team | 09 Oct 07:00: MOTU | 10 Oct 13:00: Technical Board | 11 Oct 13:00: Edubuntu | 12 Oct 08:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 17 Oct 05:00: Community Council
[10:15] <GNAM> @schedule rome
[10:15] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Europe/Rome: 06 Oct 12:00: Accessibility Team | 09 Oct 16:00: MOTU | 10 Oct 22:00: Technical Board | 11 Oct 22:00: Edubuntu | 12 Oct 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 17 Oct 14:00: Community Council
[11:59] <dholbach> Hello everybody
[11:59] <TheMuso> Hey dholbach.
[12:00] <dholbach> Ok, who's here fo the Accessibilty Team meeting? :)
[12:01] <jonsd> Just listening, in case any questions about eSpeak TTS
[12:01] <dholbach> hi jonsd
[12:01] <dholbach> Shall we wait until 10:05 for people being a bit late?
[12:01] <heno> sounds good
[12:01] <TheMuso> I'm in no hurry.
[12:01] <dholbach> else it'd be nice and cozy and just the 4 of us ;-)
[12:01] <heno> agenda is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Team/MeetingAgenda
[12:03] <heno> Joanie: good morning!
[12:03] <Joanie> hey henrik!!
[12:03] <TheMuso> Hey Joanie 
[12:03] <Joanie> hey luke!
[12:04] <dholbach> hi Joanie
[12:04] <Joanie> Hi Daniel
[12:04] <Cabb> Hello
[12:05] <dholbach> hi Cabb
[12:05] <dholbach> hehe :-)
[12:05] <heno> Not sure if you've met
[12:05] <dholbach> Nice to meet you ;)
[12:06] <jsgotangco> lol
[12:06] <Joanie> thanks Henrik.  I see Daniel on the list
[12:06] <heno> jsgotangco: evening
[12:06] <Joanie> will check out the blog too
[12:06] <dholbach> Ok, let's get going :)
[12:06] <dholbach> as heno already pointed out, our agenda is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Team/MeetingAgenda
[12:06] <heno> Right, point 1: Edgy
[12:07] <heno> I tested the live CD yesterday and the F5 options still do not work :(
[12:07] <TheMuso> Being looked into.
[12:07] <TheMuso> Part of the problem has already been found. :)
[12:07] <dholbach> Ah nice...
[12:08] <heno> cool
[12:08] <TheMuso> Tollef knows about that one.
[12:08] <jsgotangco> nice
[12:08] <TheMuso> That should see the blindness profile fixed.
[12:08] <TheMuso> Need to test others
[12:09] <TheMuso> I also intend to see what Riddell has done with the kubuntu accessibility profiles.
[12:10] <TheMuso> I am actually rsyncing the latest CD images now.
[12:10] <TheMuso> For ubuntu at least.
[12:10] <dholbach> heno: you wanted to do a roundup of Edgy's features?
[12:11] <TheMuso> Well for a start, we have moved from gnopernicus to Orca, partly due to GNOME doing the same thing.
[12:11] <heno> ok so we have the live CD boot menu which should do:
[12:11] <dholbach> heno, TheMuso: first of all: thanks for all the efforts you put into Edgy. This time the a11y team was much more organised and focused and what we achieved is really really good.
[12:11] <heno> 1. 'High Contrast' - Use Gnome High Contrast Large Print theme
[12:11] <heno> 2. 'Magnifier' - Set AT-SPI on and the default Magnifier (as before)
[12:11] <heno> 3. 'Screen reader' - Set AT-SPI on and the default Screen reader (as before)
[12:11] <heno> 4. 'Keyboard modifiers' - Set sticky keys and mouse keys (as before)
[12:11] <heno> 5. 'On-screen keyboard' - Launch the default Gnome on-screen keyboard (we skipped this in Dapper, reintroducing)
[12:12] <heno> on kubuntu:
[12:12] <heno> 1. 'High Contrast' - Use KDE High Contrast Large Print theme
[12:12] <heno>  2. 'Magnifier' - Launch kmag on starting session
[12:12] <heno>  3. 'Keyboard modifiers' - Set sticky keys
[12:12] <heno>  4. 'Keyboard and mouse modifiers' - Set sticky keys and mouse keys and mouse click tool
[12:13] <heno> another big change is onBoard replacing GOK
[12:13] <dholbach> yeah - it's good to have that done now. :)
[12:13] <heno> which is simpler but more responsive and stable
[12:14] <heno> dholbach: yep, great!
[12:14] <heno> we've optedto go with new technologies this time, almost on principle
[12:14] <heno> (the edgy release)
[12:15] <dholbach> I know that we had a lot of support requests on the mailing list - but how is the general feedback right now?
[12:15] <heno> we also have speakup compiled into the kernel by default
[12:15] <jsgotangco> i thought it was already approved for such?
[12:16] <heno> many of the support brequests are of course of a general Linux nature
[12:16] <TheMuso> brb guys
[12:16] <dholbach> That was my impression too
[12:16] <heno> perhaps we could recruit some help from the general user list to help answer those
[12:17] <TheMuso> back
[12:17] <TheMuso> Ok speakup is not actually in the kernel, it is modules
[12:17] <heno> I don't always know the answers ... :)
[12:17] <dholbach> or... at some stage... split the lists into a11y-user and a11y-devel or something
[12:17] <dholbach> hehe
[12:17] <TheMuso> Thats an idea.
[12:17] <dholbach> (me neither) :)
[12:18] <heno> dholbach: I agree. This might be the time, before the release
[12:18] <TheMuso> I have decided to put an audio tutorial together once edgy is released.
[12:18] <TheMuso> For accessibility.
[12:18] <Joanie> cool luke!
[12:18] <heno> If we can agree on that I can email RT about it
[12:18] <Joanie> agree on splitting the lists?
[12:18] <heno> yes
[12:18] <TheMuso> I certainly agree.
[12:18] <Joanie> i agree
[12:19] <TheMuso> I don't think many people will want all the bug reports in their inboxes.
[12:19] <Joanie> hehehe that's one of the reasons I'm agreeing :_
[12:19] <TheMuso> How many people subscribed to the list now?
[12:19] <dholbach> TheMuso: hang on
[12:19] <heno> in fact some users have said the were weary of posting to the list because the content seemed to technical
[12:19] <heno> so it should suit many users to split as well
[12:19] <dholbach> 97
[12:20] <heno> wow
[12:20] <TheMuso> wow indeed.
[12:20] <Joanie> alot of the questions seem to be orca specific too, it would be nice to get them directed to the orca list
[12:20] <dholbach> I think we can keep ubuntu-accessibility@ for the user list 
[12:20] <dholbach> so nobody needs to change that one
[12:20] <Joanie> cool
[12:20] <heno> dholbach: agreed
[12:20] <TheMuso> Yeah.
[12:20] <dholbach> ubuntu-a11y-devel@ maybe
[12:20] <dholbach> so the name doesn't get too long
[12:20] <heno> Joanie: yes, we can have a policy of suggesting that
[12:20] <TheMuso> Makes sense.
[12:20] <heno> and the reverse too
[12:20] <Joanie> yep
[12:21] <heno> I do see some general 'do you know of a good backup app for ubuntu' questions on the orca list too
[12:21] <Joanie> agreed, but there is a second underlying question:  "good" = accessible
[12:22] <Joanie> the orca wiki is shaping up and I hope to do some writing to contribute to that effort
[12:22] <Joanie> so that we can point people there
[12:22] <heno> true, but we are passing them  on to another list where that will also be implied
[12:23] <heno> looks like we have skipped to agenda point #3, which is fine
[12:23] <heno> any new team members or ubuntu users here who would like to say 'hi'?
[12:24] <hittsjunk> Hi
[12:24] <Cabb> hi! :)
[12:24] <TheMuso> Hi guys.
[12:24] <dholbach> hi hittsjunk, hi Cabb - nice to meet you
[12:24] <heno> Welcome :)
[12:24] <Joanie> okay, hey :)
[12:24] <TheMuso> I still wonder though, if IRC still seems daunting for some.
[12:24] <dholbach> Are you on the accessibililty list too?
[12:24] <hittsjunk> yes
[12:24] <Cabb> I am on the launchpad list
[12:25] <dholbach> Did you have a chance to test Edgy's a11y features already?
[12:25] <TheMuso> Hey Kenny. Nice to see you here.
[12:25] <hittsjunk> I installed it from a Cd a few weeks ago without sighed help.
[12:26] <Cabb> I haven't tried Edgy yet no
[12:26] <heno> hittsjunk: that's very cool! did you run Orca as root?
[12:26] <Cabb> I've been experimenting with full-screen magnification using VMWare
[12:27] <heno> hittsjunk: would you mind trying the Live CD installer again to see if it's more useable with the new ubiquity/orca script?
[12:27] <hittsjunk> Yes, I also used speakup.
[12:27] <hittsjunk> sure
[12:27] <heno> (you don't have to complete the install obviously)
[12:28] <hittsjunk> IK have friends who want to install Edgy, but they are waiting on on a more accessible instll.
[12:28] <TheMuso> I found a weird problem with ubiquity the other day with the beta release. I need to try again once I have the latest image to see if the problem still exists.
[12:28] <TheMuso> There are certainly parts of the install that aren't very usable.
[12:28] <heno> Is the partitioner still the worst spot, or city selection?
[12:29] <heno> Does it help to run gparted separately ahead of time?
[12:29] <TheMuso> The hardest bit is reading the text at the top of the window about the current settings you have to make. It is impossible unless you use flat review.
[12:29] <TheMuso> And since I was doing the install on a notebook, I couldn't use flat review.
[12:30] <heno> TheMuso: when did you try this,. before or after the custom script was added?
[12:30] <heno> (a week or so ago)
[12:30] <TheMuso> I think after the script was added.
[12:30] <TheMuso> What does the script do?
[12:31] <TheMuso> heno: Thats not the point.
[12:31] <heno> it's an orca sript for ubiquity, meant to smooth out rough edges
[12:31] <TheMuso> Next release, we really really need to do something about getting a laptop layout into Orca.
[12:31] <TheMuso> Right.
[12:32] <heno> Agree, laptops need better support
[12:32] <heno> did they basically copy the keybindings from gnopernicus?
[12:33] <heno> (going back 5 years or whatever)
[12:33] <hittsjunk> no, from speakup
[12:33] <heno> ah, heh
[12:33] <TheMuso> The biggest problem with working out a laptop keymap is deciding what key to use as a modifier key.
[12:33] <TheMuso> Like what insert is used for now.
[12:33] <heno> this would be a good place to standardise btw
[12:34] <heno> and laptop support is a good excuse to change it everywhere
[12:34] <heno> at least introduce an alternative layout
[12:35] <heno> that is the same on all screen readers and move towards that
[12:35] <TheMuso> We need to ask the X guys whether it is possible for an application to request that the X server only turn capslock on if capslock is double-pressed or something.
[12:36] <TheMuso> The insert key makes sense on a desktop keyboard, as you just use numpad 0.
[12:36] <heno> ok, we're getting a bit technical now though :)
[12:36] <dholbach> :)
[12:37] <heno> let's talk to the X and kernel guys and write some specs
[12:37] <dholbach> Looking at the a11y bugs in Edgy, we don't look too bad: https://launchpad.net/people/accessibility/+packagebugs
[12:37] <dholbach> we should mark the real blockers we have with the ubuntu-6.10 milestone
[12:37] <heno> is rodarvus here?
[12:37] <dholbach> are there any you can think of
[12:37] <dholbach> heno: he might not be up yet
[12:38] <heno> I wonder if the GOK bug could be solved by reducing default wacom support
[12:38] <heno> it's not very common and seems to cause other problems as well
[12:38] <heno> who do we need a green light from on that, mdz?
[12:39] <heno> rodarvus: seems to support the move
[12:39] <heno> and it 'fixes' GOK
[12:39] <dholbach> I'll add you two to 'ubuntu-qa'
[12:39] <dholbach> then we can mark the bugs appropriately
[12:39] <heno> I might be there already
[12:40] <TheMuso> Need to pull that down and have a look.
[12:40] <dholbach> heno: you are
[12:41] <rodarvus> heno, I'm here, but not really :)
[12:41] <rodarvus> (7:40am here)
[12:41] <rodarvus> just need to take my daughter to school before I arrive for real ;)
[12:41] <heno> do any of the new users have any comments about the community process? How easy is it to figure out where to start contributing? does access.ubuntu.com help?
[12:42] <heno> I guess we should have more frequent meetings :)
[12:42] <dholbach> absolutely
[12:42] <TheMuso> Indeed.
[12:42] <dholbach> so apart from the gok and the festival/gnome-speech thing?
[12:42] <dholbach> the at-spi-registryd thingie
[12:42] <dholbach> what else?
[12:42] <heno> Perhaps we could set up a mentoring system to get going with the AT tools
[12:42] <TheMuso> I haven't had any real problems with that for ages now.
[12:43] <heno> things like Orca
[12:43] <heno> we can start by collecting volunteers on a wiki page
[12:43] <heno> and if we get 3-4 we can 'announce' it as a support option
[12:43] <TheMuso> heno: The problem is essentially that if people have no proven way of getting Linux/Ubuntu set up, it can often be quite difficult for them to do so.
[12:44] <TheMuso> Sometimes it can very much be a hit and miss affair for many people.
[12:44] <heno> TheMuso: right, but there are little tricks that others know
[12:44] <TheMuso> Thats true.
[12:44] <heno> like running orca as root to install
[12:44] <Cabb> I'll have to try that
[12:44] <heno> dholbach: the casper setting
[12:45] <heno> (being worked on)
[12:45] <dholbach> heno: we should make sure the crucial bits are on that list
[12:45] <dholbach> I think we're in quite a good shape
[12:45] <heno> yep
[12:45] <dholbach> apart from having to gag apport or fix the stuff ;)
[12:45] <heno> \o/ that's a plan!
[12:46] <dholbach> :-)
[12:46] <heno> and fix the rest by running everything as root always
[12:46] <jonsd> I tried Edgy-beta. Can't access internet: "Network not accessible". Works OK with Dapper. Is that a know problem or should I report it somewhere?
[12:47] <heno> jonsd: a typical regular ubuntu problem of some kind
[12:47] <heno> jonsd: do you prefer IRC, mail or forums
[12:47] <jonsd> First time today on IRC
[12:48] <heno> you should be able to get good help through any of those methods in the standard channels
[12:48] <dholbach> woohoo - ewlcome! :)
[12:48] <heno> so the ubuntu user mailing list, the general help forum section
[12:48] <heno> or on #ubuntu
[12:49] <TheMuso> If you are new to IRC< I suggest trying to avoid #ubuntu if you can.
[12:49] <heno> might also try a local group near you for less traffic
[12:49] <TheMuso> Things move very fast in there.
[12:49] <jonsd> Thanks, I'll do that. I expect internet works OK for most people or they;d fix it :-)
[12:49] <heno> right so it's likely a config thing
[12:50] <heno> that someone should be able to help you with
[12:50] <jonsd> Live CD should work automatially?
[12:50] <heno> if you give enough details
[12:50] <TheMuso> Depends on your network configuration.
[12:50] <jonsd> OK, anyway, I'll raise this in a mor approprate place
[12:51] <dholbach> Great to have you guys here.
[12:51] <dholbach> Should we talk about assigning those important bugs to people at another place?
[12:51] <heno> shall we talk briefly about the next meeting then?
[12:52] <dholbach> OK
[12:52] <dholbach> Do you think we should have one before the release?
[12:52] <heno> dholbach: yes I think so
[12:52] <TheMuso> Is there anybody involved with a11y going to be at the uds?
[12:52] <heno> we should harvest some ideas for UDS
[12:53] <heno> which is quite soon after release
[12:53] <dholbach> heno: Ok, that's a valid point.
[12:53] <heno> TheMuso: yes Chris Jones is going and likely some local Sun guys
[12:53] <TheMuso> Right.
[12:53] <dholbach> (although I might be busy with other release stuff)
[12:54] <dholbach> Two weeks from now, same time?
[12:54] <heno> I think I'll have time after RC for this stuff
[12:54] <TheMuso> Same time in two weeks sounds fine by me.
[12:54] <heno> because most of my stuff will be very frozen then
[12:55] <TheMuso> dholbach: BTW the latest version of festival in launchpad doesn't seem to have been built at all.
[12:55] <heno> TheMuso: we've had some complaints from people in the Americas about the time of this one :)
[12:55] <dholbach> we should look into forward the bugs we have.
[12:55] <TheMuso> heno: Well whenever it is, I can be there.
[12:55] <dholbach> TheMuso: I'll have a look, although I appreciate help with that kind of thing.
[12:55] <TheMuso> dholbach: Well there is no build records at all
[12:56] <dholbach> speech-tools doesn't build either
[12:56] <TheMuso> I'm going to be out for the rest of this evening, but I'll have a look tomorrow.
[12:56] <dholbach> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/festival/1.4.3-17.1ubuntu4 - FTBFS
[12:56] <dholbach> I'll have a look
[12:56] <dholbach> speech-tools doesn't build either
[12:56] <TheMuso> I'm looking now as well.
[12:57] <jonsd> Is Edgy fixed now, or should I offer another update to eSpeak? minor bugfixes and improvements
[12:57] <dholbach> which is a dash/bash issue
[12:57] <dholbach> bug 63897
[12:57] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 63897 in speech-tools "source package will not build on edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63897
[12:57] <TheMuso> jonsd: WHat bugfixes are they?
[12:57] <TheMuso> Is it a new upstream version?
[12:57] <TheMuso> Actually, if we are all done here, we will continue the discussion in #ubuntu-accessibility.
[12:57] <heno> jonsd: only individual patches for bug fixes will be accepted now I think
[12:58] <TheMuso> I won't be round for long anyway.
[12:58] <heno> not full version upgrades
[12:58] <jonsd> Some language improvements
[12:58] <heno> dholbach: ^ correct?
[12:58] <TheMuso> We are in universe freeze, yes.
[12:58] <webben> I'm not really familiar with Ubuntu development processes; but if we're working on festival improvements, could we get in the lastest version of emacspeak to go with that?
[12:58] <dholbach> new upstream version should be fine
[12:58] <TheMuso> Shall we move to #ubuntu-accessibility?
[12:58] <heno> jonsd: what is your role in eSpeak, are you a developer?
[12:58] <dholbach> we just need to check it
[12:58] <dholbach> yeah
[12:59] <jonsd> heno: yes
[12:59] <webben> current version is 23.x; latest version on emacspeak site is 24 i think
[12:59] <webben> (and it builds okay with dapper, so hopefully with edgy too)
[12:59] <heno> jonsd: cool, we should talk about eSpeak on Edgy+1
[12:59] <jonsd> OK
[12:59] <TheMuso> jonsd: Just realized who it was. Nice to see you here.
[12:59] <dholbach> TheMuso: can you look into a uvf exception report for emacspeak?
[12:59] <heno> we may use it as the default on the Live CD so we can support more languages
[12:59] <TheMuso> dholbach: Sure.
[01:00] <webben> what is uvf?
[01:00] <dholbach> TheMuso: Way to go! Thanks
[01:00] <dholbach> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Processes/UVF
[01:00] <webben> dholbach, ah thanks
[01:00] <TheMuso> dholbach: I hope to go for MOTU next week, so I don't have to asking people to review stuff.
[01:00] <dholbach> webben: UpstreamVersionFreeze exception
[01:00] <dholbach> TheMuso: rock on - I'll cheerlead for you in the meeting :)
[01:00] <heno> TheMuso: cool!
[01:01] <TheMuso> I'll also have crimsun who has been reviewing a lot of my stuff.
[01:01] <dholbach> yeah
[01:01] <heno> So the ubuntu dev process can be a bit confusing the first time
[01:01] <heno> we are in a fairly frozen state now, so it may be better to point changes at the next version
[01:02] <heno> which is only ~6 months away anyway
[01:02] <TheMuso> If I get MOTU, it will be a lot easier for us to get stuff through into Universe at least.
[01:02] <heno> It is important to get new ideas in at the very start of the next cycle as well
[01:03] <heno> If anyone wants to volunteer to help me write specs for UDS that wouldbe great!
[01:03] <heno> even if it's just filling in use cases and such
[01:03] <TheMuso> I'll be writing one or two in the coming weeks.
[01:03] <webben> what sort of specs?
[01:04] <TheMuso> heno: What do we do in the case of deffered specs such as spoken boot and the partially deferred speakup inclusion?
[01:04] <heno> webben: like these https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Specs
[01:04] <heno> the partial ones should be re-written I guess
[01:05] <heno> to only have the bits we need
[01:05] <TheMuso> Right,.
[01:05] <TheMuso> Well I can do that at least.
[01:05] <webben> Have we got any documentation/wiki page for recommending software to be used with Orca?
[01:05] <dholbach> Ok, let's close the meeting and move to #ubuntu-accessibility
[01:05] <TheMuso> lets do that.
[01:05] <dholbach> Thanks everybody for joining the meeting. Have a nice day!
[01:05] <heno> right
[01:05] <dholbach> :-)
[01:09] <jonsd> leave
[01:15] <Tonio_> Riddell: kipi-plugins splitted and uploaded
[01:15] <Tonio_> Riddell: I'm rebuilding openengo and it'll be finished in 10 minutes
[01:15] <Tonio_> hi everyone
[01:16] <Tonio_> oups bad channel...
[02:59] <siretart> !help
[03:00] <siretart> !schedule
[03:00] <highvoltage> @schedule
[03:00] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Etc/UTC: 09 Oct 14:00: MOTU | 10 Oct 20:00: Technical Board | 11 Oct 20:00: Edubuntu | 12 Oct 15:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 17 Oct 12:00: Community Council | 18 Oct 12:00: Edubuntu
[03:00] <highvoltage> siretart: you can also add your timezone at the end for your local schedule
[03:00] <siretart> @schedule berlin
[03:00] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Europe/Berlin: 09 Oct 16:00: MOTU | 10 Oct 22:00: Technical Board | 11 Oct 22:00: Edubuntu | 12 Oct 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 17 Oct 14:00: Community Council | 18 Oct 14:00: Edubuntu
[03:00] <siretart> one hour to go
[03:00] <siretart> thnx highvoltage 
[03:01] <highvoltage> :)
[03:01] <GNAM> @schedule rome
[03:01] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Europe/Rome: 09 Oct 16:00: MOTU | 10 Oct 22:00: Technical Board | 11 Oct 22:00: Edubuntu | 12 Oct 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 17 Oct 14:00: Community Council | 18 Oct 14:00: Edubuntu
[03:07] <Seveas> highvoltage, siretart: for an eta of the nxt meeting, use @now or @time
[03:07] <highvoltage> ok
[03:11] <siretart> oh. thnx
[03:11] <siretart> @time
[03:11] <Ubugtu> Current time in Etc/UTC: October 06 2006, 13:11:39 - Next meeting: MOTU in 3 days
[03:11] <siretart> @time Berlin
[03:11] <Ubugtu> Current time in Europe/Berlin: October 06 2006, 15:11:50 - Next meeting: MOTU in 3 days
[03:11] <siretart> 3 days? that should read in 50 min
[03:12] <Fujitsu> siretart, why?
[03:13] <Seveas> motu meeting is october 9, not october 6 
[03:13] <Fujitsu> That's what I would have thought :)
[03:15] <siretart> oh
[03:15] <siretart> my bad then