[12:01] <SkramX> ill try plugging in a lcd screen
[12:01] <SkramX> actually. i just did.. doesn't help
[12:01] <dyn-afk> shodanjr_gr if you use ext3 (or ext2) for your linux partitions then there is a way to make windows read and write them :)
[12:01] <shodanjr_gr> ArrenLex in what order should i install the OSes? XP first then Ubuntu, right?
[12:01] <Mille> shodanjr_gr, search for windows xp ext3 driver on google
[12:01] <ArrenLex> will: static source = got all the libraries you need included in the source = bigger download but you don't need to bother with dependencies
[12:01] <dyn-afk> download the ifs driver from www.fs-driver.org and install it on winxp
[12:01] <jordan> shodanjr_gr, Yes, XP first.
[12:01] <ArrenLex> shodanjr: yes, XP first, then Ubuntu.
[12:01] <jonah1980_2> hello can anyone help me, firefox won't play wmv, even thought the mplayer-plugin is installed, firefox doesn't seem to know the plugin is there
[12:01] <Mille> shodanjr_gr, i'm using it myself, and I haven't had any problem with it. can read and write all the partitions from windows.
[12:01] <NemesisUK> add vga=791 as a kernel option that may  help
[12:02] <dyn-afk> you can map a driveletter to an ext2/3 drive inside windows with that driver
[12:02] <SkramX> okay...
[12:02] <dyn-afk> if you want to map another just rerun the setup
[12:02] <dyn-afk> very easy :)
[12:02] <SkramX> NemesisUK: no.. i just downloaded the livecd.. how do i dot hat?
[12:02] <Mille> yup :-)
[12:02] <SkramX> *do that
[12:02] <will>  ArrenLex: Thanks for clearing this up, I'm not very intelligent with linux; So I'm going to get this package.  From there I'm assuming it's just extract then the command sudo make?
[12:02] <SkramX> i see nothing on my screen.
[12:02] <NemesisUK> extra options one of the F keys
[12:03] <tuskernini> hi there all, how do I get my nick accepted by default in xchat?
[12:03] <Mille> dyn-afk, think you can recommend me any programs I should use now when I'm new to linux and ubuntu? like 'easyubuntu' i mentioned before, that installs many necessary things...?
[12:03] <jordan> SkramX, Did you ever see anything on the screen when booting or did it show something then go black?
[12:03] <shodanjr_gr> Another thing. Whats the compatibility status of Ubuntu running on Intel 945 chipset laptops?
[12:03] <THX-1138> livingdaylight - i wonder if the %variables en   etc are used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[12:03] <david83> SkramX: you have an onboard and a hardware graphic adapter?
[12:03] <ArrenLex> will: not sudo make. Extract the package, run ./configure, then run make. Then, if and only if it builds fine, run "sudo make install".
[12:03] <__zer0__> im still kind of getting used to searching files.. is there a way to find all the symbolic links to a certain file?
[12:03] <dyn-afk> Mille most are already installed :)
[12:04] <livingdaylight> THX-1138: i wouldn't know either :s
[12:04] <Mille> dyn-afk, well, you can't run mp3s.. you need java.. flash for your webbrowser, etc. :-)
[12:04] <dyn-afk> you can try skype if you use that (the 1.3 version was released today and that one has alsa support so sound works)
[12:04] <david83> Mille: for mp3s mplayer and vlc
[12:04] <Mille> dyn-afk, no pppoe client installed either. :p
[12:04] <dyn-afk> install those with easyubuntu Mille :)
[12:04] <ArrenLex> dyn_afk: you are having problems with firefox not finding mplayerplug-in?
[12:04] <livingdaylight> THX-1138: all i know is i'm using the gui in System / keyboard layout and changing language but without effect
[12:04] <Mille> uh. no, not skype, but thanks.
[12:04] <david83> Mille: they install the nessary codecs too
[12:04] <SkramX> jordan: something very quick
[12:04] <SkramX> david83: just on board..
[12:04] <shodanjr_gr> And a third question, since i am out of CD-Rs, can i burn and boot a Dapper image on a DVD-R? :P
[12:04] <paul0> hi, someone can help me here?
[12:05] <paul0> i'm trying to run second life
[12:05] <Mille> dyn-afk, yeah yeah.. thought you mean that you can't recommend me any programs because most are already installed. ;-)
[12:05] <ArrenLex> shodan: sure, if you want to waste a DVD on it.
[12:05] <will>  Would it be possible to use my microsoft "Lifecam" webcam with ubuntu? It doesn't work out of the box, and was wondering if anyone brewed some drivers for it
[12:05] <paul0> 2006-10-05T21:39:25Z WARNING: Unable to create window, be sure screen is set at 32-bit color in Control Panels->Display->Settings
[12:05] <paul0> 2006-10-05T21:39:25Z INFO: remove_marker_file()
[12:05] <dyn-afk> Mille install tomboy notes if you want a good note taking/post-it application, it's great
[12:05] <shodanjr_gr> ArrenLex do i have to change any settings in Nero?
[12:05] <livingdaylight> THX-1138: what would be the use of having a gui to change something if i have to after go into x11 config files to complete the changes? or to infact realise it!
[12:05] <ArrenLex> will: Googel ist thine best frynd.
[12:05] <paul0> i've set my Xorg to 24 depth, this shouldn't work?
[12:05] <Mille> david83, isn't the sound and movie app that comes with ubuntu good? :-)
[12:05] <david83> SkramX: Did you disable it in BIOS? maybe the chipset isn't compatible with ubuntu did you check that?
[12:05] <THX-1138> livingdaylight - try running the root desktop and then use the gui there? - doesn't sound comepletely right. but worht a try i am out of answers
[12:05] <will> ArrenLex: Google turned up nil ;).  Just a bunch of M$ advertisments for the webcam
[12:05] <SkramX> i havent
[12:05] <dyn-afk> if you have a laptop or use wifi install gnome network applet (nm-applet...and that's the startup command for that program as well)
[12:06] <__zer0__> whats the best way to find all 'shortcuts' or symlinks to a certain file on the entire filesystem
[12:06] <SkramX> how do i find out?
[12:06] <__zer0__> ?
[12:06] <Mille> dyn-afk, ok :-)
[12:06] <ArrenLex> will: try google.com/linux
[12:06] <SkramX> it is an acer aspire 3003lci
[12:06] <shodanjr_gr> Because Nero says that it cant burn the iamge, since it is a CD-R one.....
[12:06] <ArrenLex> shodan: should be possible. Google burning CD images to DVD?
[12:06] <dyn-afk> Mille: if you want a ftp client get gFTP
[12:06] <david83> Mille: totem-videoplayer isn't my choice and now i can hear mp3s with xmms too just the codecs where missing because of not being totally free
[12:07] <jordan> shodanjr_gr, There is a DVD image also I believe, although you shouldn't need it.
[12:07] <will>  ArrenLex: Wow, I never even knew of that link :D.  Sadly, nothing turned up there either
[12:07] <Mille> gFtp. noted. xD
[12:07] <ArrenLex> will: try searching on the video4linux website?
[12:07] <david83> vsftpd :)
[12:07] <dyn-afk> you might want to get beagle, which is a desktop search tool like google, yahoo, copernic, etc. offer for windows
[12:07] <SkramX> jordan: it says ISO Linux then goes blanl
[12:08] <SkramX> *blank
[12:08] <THX-1138> shodanjr_gr - iso burner powertoy by alex fienmann on his site is free and works i windows.
[12:08] <david83> will: do you want to set up your webcam?
[12:08] <Mille> david83, well, it's the mather of codecs all together. i use vlc on my windows machine, but i dont find any need for it in ubuntu. but if i ever get probelm i'll install that mplayer and xmms. :-)
[12:08] <dyn-afk> if Mille has a jabber account you'll want psi or gajim as jabber client and not gaim
[12:08] <ArrenLex> MPlayer is life.
[12:08] <will>  david83: Yes, but it's microsoft and wont run from what I've attempted
[12:08] <livingdaylight> THX-1138: root desktop? can you tell me how i do that please? thanx
[12:08] <david83> Mille: xmms is preinstalled vlc OR mplayer just for the codecs
[12:08] <shodanjr_gr> For reference purposes in order to burn a CD image on DVD you gota open it with Nero burning rom and change the compilation type to DVD - Just dont use the included wizards :p
[12:08] <Mille> dyn-afk, ok. but those doesn't support msn, to they?
[12:09] <Mille> david83, i see.
[12:09] <dyn-afk> nope
[12:09] <will>  ArrenLex: Unlisted
[12:09] <SkramX> i guess ill try debian
[12:09] <dyn-afk> jabber is a different protocol
[12:09] <Mille> yeah i know i know
[12:09] <dyn-afk> gaim is a multiprotocol chatclient that supports msn
[12:09] <Mille> heh, just wondering if it was supported.
[12:09] <Mille> yup
[12:09] <david83> will: i got a Terracam usb Pro and can't get that one to work either
[12:09] <david83> :(
[12:09] <dyn-afk> kopete is a great client too
[12:09] <livingdaylight> Anyone know how to run a "root desktop"?
[12:09] <NemesisUK> SkramX, give edgy a go
[12:09] <ladydoor> livingdaylight: it's *not* recommended to log into a graphical environment as root
[12:09] <Mille> for IM, dyn-afk?
[12:09] <livingdaylight> THX-1138: canyou tell me how to run this root desktop?
[12:09] <SkramX> hmm okay
[12:10] <ladydoor> livingdaylight: if you need to run a command as root, use gksudo or sudo.
[12:10] <dyn-afk> if you can get alacarte 0.9 then install that too Mille
[12:10] <ladydoor> !root > livingdaylight
[12:10] <dyn-afk> version 0.9 is much faster then the default 0.8 in ubuntu
[12:10] <Amaranth> dyn-afk: no it's not
[12:10] <Mille> dyn-afk, it's installed as default in ubuntu?
[12:10] <Mille> oh ok
[12:10] <ladydoor> livingdaylight: (gksudo is for graphical programs and sudo for terminal-based)
[12:10] <david83> !root > david83
[12:10] <dyn-afk> it is here Amaranth
[12:10] <livingdaylight> ladydoor: ok, but i am trying use the keyboard layout which is not working
[12:10] <Amaranth> dyn-afk: It's got problems, that's why I never made any new dapper packages for it.
[12:10] <ladydoor> livingdaylight: please clarify what you mean and perhaps i can help you.
[12:10] <Mille> hwg with the reboot
[12:10] <bernie_> i'm trying to get beryl work, when i start it it crashes back to metacity. where can i find the log of what's going wrong?
[12:11] <Amaranth> dyn-afk: To fix those problems I had to patch gnome-menus and those patches are only in edgy
[12:11] <SkramX> NemesisUK: where do i get edgy?
[12:11] <Amaranth> bernie_: #ubuntu-xgl
[12:11] <livingdaylight> under system/keyboard layout i set it to french and german and the keyboard remains in its defualt english
[12:11] <THX-1138> livingdaylight - log off the 'net (root and connected is bad.) then Ctrl+Alt+F1 login with your username. - easier though command line is to open the the troublesome app type ps -e   find it's name use that name in terminal to launch it using gksudo <nettlesome_app>
[12:11] <dyn-afk> take a look at the changelog for version 0.9..it uses a different engine to solve some of the speed problems with previous versions
[12:11] <livingdaylight> ladydoor: under system/keyboard layout i set it to french and german and the keyboard remains in its defualt english
[12:11] <SkramX> ?
[12:11] <Amaranth> dyn-afk: I'm the developer
[12:11] <NemesisUK> SkramX, one sec getting you a link
[12:11] <dyn-afk> ok
[12:12] <SkramX> ok..
[12:12] <dyn-afk> it still is slow, but 0.9 is faster then 0.8 here
[12:12] <david83> did someone here managed to get himself a webcam running?
[12:12] <livingdaylight> ladydoor: did you say you might be able to help me?
[12:12] <NemesisUK> SkramX, http://www.ubuntu.com/news/EdgyBeta
[12:12] <Xenguy> !webcam
[12:12] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[12:12] <THX-1138> livingdaylight - You will want to see the "#" symbol to tell you the command will run with super powers
[12:13] <ladydoor> livingdaylight: yes. check out this link:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=237794
[12:13] <livingdaylight> THX-1138: log off the net? I'm hooked to broadband non-stop
[12:13] <SkramX> ok
[12:13] <livingdaylight> ladydoor: thx
[12:13] <david83> Xenguy: thx
[12:13] <acidmax> hello
[12:13] <Xenguy> david83: np
[12:13] <ladydoor> livingdaylight: np. let me know if it works!
[12:13] <THX-1138> livingdaylight -no open connections. ya know.
[12:13] <SkramX> NemesisUK: thanks.. going to take 45 minutes to download
[12:14] <NemesisUK> SkramX, took 16mins here :)
[12:14] <acidmax> i have a question
[12:14] <acidmax> :7
[12:14] <acidmax> :/
[12:14] <ladydoor> livingdaylight: and DON'T log into X as root. please.
[12:14] <david83> Xenguy: i am sure may hardware could run under linux but i can't make it too
[12:14] <sj> acidmax: shoot
[12:14] <acidmax> jejej
[12:14] <acidmax> ok
[12:14] <IcemanV9> SkramX: FWIW, always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[12:14] <Brokenstein> can anyone tell me how to associate music files with xmms instead of totem?
[12:14] <SkramX> IcemanV9: ll
[12:14] <SkramX> *kk
[12:15] <acidmax> i need this gpg keys
[12:15] <acidmax> D3F985C51A77B3E9
[12:15] <acidmax> 8CC68B397E2E4741
[12:15] <acidmax> 84F27CD6A2BF7BCB
[12:15] <acidmax> D0AFFF5E937215FF
[12:15] <Xenguy> !paste > acidmax
[12:15] <acidmax> for my repositories
[12:15] <Mille> is there any other server i can get the security updates from then security.ubuntu.com? where can i find a list?
[12:16] <THX-1138> ladydoor - nice link. - Thanks.
[12:16] <acidmax> but on subkeys.net not here
[12:16] <jordan> Brokenstien, select a file, then hit ctrl+i ( or right click but I don't know as I can't currently right click :) )  Then go to open with.
[12:18] <shodanjr_gr> How to i get the 1280 x 800 resolution on a Intel GMA945 IGP?
[12:18] <Brokenstein> hmm
[12:19] <jordan> Brokenstein, That should make all files of that type ( mp3 ) open with whatever app you choose ( xms )
[12:24] <djuuss> its dead in here :O
[12:25] <djuuss> soooo
[12:25] <djuuss> Vi vs Emacs anyone?
[12:25] <fredrich> anyone know if there's a gui app that lets one mount cue/bin files?
[12:25] <pike_> fredrich: cdemu
[12:25] <djuuss> fredrich, i'd like to know :)
[12:25] <IcemanV9> !flame
[12:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flame - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:25] <djuuss> whoo nice,
[12:25] <pike_> fredrich: i dont think its in repos
[12:25] <MZM> !stfu
[12:25] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[12:25] <AngryElf> how can I change a panel to less than 100% width? -- i dont see it in the prefs menu
[12:26] <fredrich> Well...cdemu, thats commandline isnt it?
[12:26] <pike_> fredrich: yep
[12:26] <fredrich> or do i remember wrong (sorta tired hehe)
[12:26] <djuuss> isnt there some gui front for it?
[12:26] <kitche> AngryElf: you right click the panel and it should be in there
[12:26] <shodanjr_gr> How to i get the 1280 x 800 resolution on a Intel GMA945 IGP? <- any help with this?
[12:26] <djuuss> or can K3B do it?
[12:26] <AngryElf> kitche, it's not
[12:26] <jpiccolo> any samba guru's here?
[12:27] <MZM> jpiccolo: why not ask question?
[12:27] <david83> Xenguy: i can't get that esaycam2 package the sourcelist has it "deb http://blognux.free.fr/debian unstable main" but after an update it can't find that package
[12:27] <sj> angryelf: panel properties
[12:27] <AngryElf> kitche, there's an expand button -- but i'm not sure what it's doing
[12:27] <kitche> AngryElf: well you can drag the panel as well
[12:27] <pike_> djuuss: k3b might be able to i know mplayer has support for cue directly
[12:28] <MZM> math q: if OOo eats 1Mb ram/sec, how far is OOM for me? :)
[12:28] <djuuss> does mplayer do .bin directly? else, what should i put in a .cue file to make it point to the .bin
[12:28] <djuuss> wait, cdemu has a make cue utility... pff its been so long :(
[12:28] <larsemil> since dist-upgrading to edgy beta i have no borders in gnome. how to solve this?
[12:29] <jpiccolo> ok well i have a computer with just the server install and samba set up, when i transfer a file (big file) though samba the ram usage goes way up, and stay up untill i delete the file from the samba share, any ideas or should i not worry about it?
[12:29] <MZM> larsemil: video card?
[12:29] <larsemil> MZM, ati
[12:29] <fredrich> I dont think k3b has that functionality...
[12:29] <MZM> jpiccolo: any VFS modules?
[12:29] <MZM> larsemil: drivers?
[12:30] <jpiccolo> um not that i know of?
[12:30] <david83> jpiccolo: don't worry linux isn't like windows with ram usage
[12:30] <larsemil> MZM, thing is its drawing everything else..
[12:30] <Aladin> good ego shooter for linux/ubuntu?
[12:30] <treitter> does the 6.06.1 Alternate install CD have bash?
[12:30] <Dr_willis> ego?
[12:30] <livingdaylight> ladydoor: hi
[12:30] <Aladin> bang bang bang
[12:30] <david83> Aladin: go the 3D going in ubuntu?
[12:30] <david83> got
[12:31] <Dr_willis> treitter,  i  would hope so. :P
[12:31] <Aladin> no idea
[12:31] <jpiccolo> david83, so its just caching some of the file in ram but its stilling writing it to the disc right?
[12:31] <MZM> larsemil: fglrx drivers or ..?
[12:31] <treitter> Dr_willis: I can't seem to find it, for some reason..
[12:31] <livingdaylight> ladydoor: are you in the thread suggesting how i can create shortcuts to access different language modes?
[12:32] <larsemil> MZM, yes. but do you think that is the case as it draws everything else perfectly..
[12:32] <AngryElf> where do i stick wallpapers to show up in the change background dialog
[12:32] <Dr_willis> treitter,  hmmm.. find it how/where? im trying to think of any linux disrto that dont come with bash. :P
[12:32] <david83> jpiccolo: i guess so but try to search the samba documentation for ram usage if you want to know more
[12:32] <treitter> Dr_willis: well, it's not in my PATH (nor in /bin, where I would expect it)
[12:33] <jpiccolo> i just want to make sure this is working right, i want to have a small raid computer for a NAS at my dads business
[12:33] <Dr_willis> ~$ which bash
[12:33] <Dr_willis> /bin/bash
[12:33] <MZM> larsemil: Xorg 7.1 has AIGLX enabled by default - so - look for problem with your video driver and aiglx
[12:33] <treitter> Dr_willis: hah.. "which" isn't found, either
[12:34] <AngryElf> hmm, and how come when you set panels to transparent the whole thing, including other objects dont go transparent
[12:34] <larsemil> mzm ah. i will check upon it. thats probably it then.
[12:34] <Dr_willis> treitter,  hmmmmm...  how did you install this system. heh.
[12:34] <david83> AngryElf: choose your pic once and i will stay there in this dialog
[12:34] <Dr_willis> treitter,  better yet.. how did it even boot...
[12:34] <treitter> Dr_willis: no, this is booted off of the Alternate CD
[12:34] <treitter> I'm still surprised that I can't find it..
[12:34] <pooh_beawr> Amarok keeps crashing on dapper, does anyone know what the problem might be?
[12:35] <shodanjr_gr> hm...
[12:35] <treitter> I foudn the package, but that doesn't help much
[12:35] <Dr_willis> treitter,  you mean you are on the alternate install cd, in the installer? or livecd? or what..
[12:35] <MZM> larsemil: I had similar problem w 7.1 - no window backgrounds w ati card when running XGL/AIGLX.
[12:35] <treitter> Dr_willis: the alternate install CD
[12:35] <shodanjr_gr> is 10 gb of space enough for an ubuntu installation for software development usage?
[12:35] <gesker> Is there deb package available for glassfish? Sun's jdk is now available,  just wondering if glassfish will follow.
[12:35] <larsemil> mzm and 7.1 is default on edgy?
[12:36] <MZM> yap
[12:37] <david83> MZM: just terminal is worse
[12:37] <livingdaylight> has anyone seen ladydoor around?
[12:37] <livingdaylight> please tell her i'm looking for her
[12:37] <david83> !ladydoor
[12:37] <larsemil> mzm xserver-xorg-driver-ati or xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ladydoor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:38] <MZM> david83: nope. in terminal letters are shown as I type, with vesa - I'm faster than video card :)
[12:38] <THX-1138>  /ignore -regexp -pattern "n=" *
[12:38] <MZM> larsemil: try ati
[12:38] <Dr_willis> treitter,  it may be using busybox for that stuff...
[12:38] <Dr_willis> treitter,  but that seems weird
[12:38] <Ranbee> hi, is this quit without saving in vi
[12:38] <Ranbee> :w!
[12:38] <david83> MZM: Nice typing how many hit's a minute? :)
[12:39] <cafuego> MZM: yes, the working 855 driver will be in Edgy+1.
[12:39] <gesker> :q!
[12:39] <Ranbee> thanks, i made a mistake in crontab and forgot it uses vi lol
[12:39] <MZM> cafuego: patches or nextnext ubuntu version?
[12:39] <cafuego> MZM: Well, Xorg 7.2 has the stuff that intel released.
[12:40] <cafuego> MZM: Since edgy is frozen, it won't make it in.
[12:40] <gesker> been using vi for a while. still forget many commands.
[12:40] <david83> !webcam
[12:40] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[12:40] <maxo127> AlinuxOS hi
[12:40] <MZM> cafuego: atleast I hope it is fixed in 7.2...
[12:40] <AlinuxOS> maxo127, hi ;) everything is ok ?
[12:41] <cafuego> MZM: According to unreliable sources in my LUG it is ;-)  No more helper utility; just works.
[12:41] <david83> can somebody help me get the esaycam2 package that is talked about in  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam ??
[12:41] <MZM> cafuego: it was working in dapper w 7.0 w/o any helpers and other tricks..
[12:41] <cafuego> MZM: Hmm. Did you file a bugreport on the 7.1 package?
[12:43] <Mille> THX-1138, installed the nm-applet. now when logging in i'm getting the error 'The NetworkManager applet could not find some required resources. It cannot continue." any ideas?
[12:44] <david83> can somebody help me get the esaycam2 package that is talked about in  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam ??
[12:44] <THX-1138> Mille - erm - no
[12:44] <unawokendreamer> hi
[12:45] <^Down> Can someone help me with this? http://pastebin.ca/192426
[12:45] <THX-1138> Hi nalioth
[12:45] <unawokendreamer> ummm I need help with rythembox?
[12:45] <nalioth> hi y'all
[12:46] <MZM> cafuego: Bug#61234
[12:46] <Mille> THX-1138, sudo gtk-update-icon-cache -f /usr/share/icons/hicolor/  -- did it. found it on a forum. in case you're wondering. :-)
[12:47] <THX-1138> Mille - Ah. Always good to add another fix.
[12:47] <bernie_> where'd the system>admin>disks dialog go in edgy?
[12:47] <Zarephath> how do I restart the smbd daemon?
[12:48] <larsemil> sudo /etc/init.d/smbd restart
[12:48] <Frog_Racer> damn you beat me
[12:48] <Zarephath> laresemil: Thanks a bunch
[12:48] <david83> ^Down: Maybe you should try to get those packages before installation of this program "libc6-dev", "libc-dev"
[12:49] <JamesG> how can i tell if my linux box is i686 with libc6?
[12:49] <gean> hia ll
[12:49] <JamesG> i'm using dapper
[12:50] <gean> we ll, u already know me, after 4 days of daily 6 hours tries to put ubuntu on my laptop, i ama ubiquitous presence hare...
[12:50] <psycose> hi i've install an Ubuntu dapper server / sparc on a sun  blade 150 with sucess this morning everything went ok (after passing ide=nodma) problem is i would like to install/compil the gnat package on it ... but it seems that the gnat package is not in the sparc repositories
[12:50] <david83> JamesG: try to install something that depends on this libc6 package
[12:50] <gean> still got NOO ubuntu on HDD
[12:50] <larsemil> MZM i am not able to install the driver...
[12:50] <jmerlin> 631/tcp   open  ipp
[12:50] <jmerlin> 33440/tcp open  unknown
[12:50] <jmerlin> 37968/tcp open  unknown
[12:51] <jmerlin> any suggestions as to how to close these?
[12:51] <gean> big q: how to harddisch install ubuntu... (no relevant link found)
[12:51] <gean> !install
[12:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:51] <^Down> david83: http://pastebin.ca/192429
[12:51] <gean> oh-ye.. senn them all
[12:52] <JamesG> david: thanks
[12:52] <Zarephath> Interesting my M$ installed laptop still sees MSHOME as the smb server...I guess when I installed it defaulted to MSHOME opposed to Workgroup...anyone know how to make the windows machine refresh so it will see my ubuntu shares in WORKGROUP?
[12:52] <david83> ^Down, i've read it
[12:52] <THX-1138> psycose - Do you know if it is possible to pass config variables like ide=nodma to a live cd install?  alternate install I386?
[12:52] <MZM> larsemil: with error ...?
[12:52] <^Down> That's a new one
[12:52] <ChocoCid> you can download a i386 livecd, THX-1138 ...
[12:52] <Zarephath> I have verfied when I set my shares smb.conf changed to WORKGROUP
[12:53] <treitter> Dr_willis: yeah, it looks like the Alternate installer doesn't include bash
[12:53] <david83> THX: Hit F3 when system boots from livecd and then type them in
[12:53] <treitter> Dr_willis: but the regular LiveCD does, so I'm fine
[12:53] <psycose> THX-1138, well sorry i did not get you .... are you talking about my problem ?
[12:53] <Dr_willis> treitter,  thats weird... it must be using busybox is my guess
[12:53] <ixian_> hi... i've been playing around with the panels, i removed one so that apps have more room (im on 1024x768 resolution). seemed ok until i realize that i dont seem to have a 'system tray' anymore. for example if i click oon the 'x' in gaim, it just closes the program. before it used to appear on the bottom right corner. how am i able to have a system tray again? screenshot : http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2545/untitledbc2.jpg
[12:54] <larsemil> Zarephath, microsoft is all about rebooting
[12:54] <treitter> Dr_willis: yeah. And its built-in ash and sh don't play nicely with bash scripts :)
[12:54] <Zarephath> larsemil: I was afraid you were going to say that ;-)
[12:54] <^Down> david83: Read this. It happens when I try to install the libc6 packages http://pastebin.ca/192429
[12:54] <Zarephath> bye thanks for the help
[12:54] <THX-1138> Chocokid - psycose illustrated a new possibility. passing variables to a cranky system at boot time. handy for many other users even if the problem isn't dma.
[12:54] <bernie_> what is a good replacemewnt for the gnome disk manager that got taken out in edgy?
[12:54] <jmerlin> anyone got any suggestions on closing those open ports on my machine?
[12:54] <larsemil> MZM: ./ati-installer.sh:176: syntax error: Bad substitution. i always needed to use the ati driver from homepage and build pkgs for my self
[12:55] <printk> jmerlin: 631/tcp is your printer
[12:55] <THX-1138> psycose - Is the same feature available with the live cd? The alternate install cd for I386
[12:55] <printk> jmerlin: well internet printing protocol
[12:55] <michoelc>  /clear
[12:55] <jmerlin> how can i get rid of that though..
[12:55] <psycose> THX-1138, yes i think so .
[12:56] <jmerlin> doesn't cups open that port, and if so i can't print without cups?
[12:56] <printk> jmerlin: yes cups opens that port
[12:56] <THX-1138> psycose - Thanks - You gave me the google tag with your variable.
[12:56] <jmerlin> do i need to run the cups service to print?
[12:56] <larsemil> mzm brb rebooting
[12:56] <printk> yes
[12:56] <cafuego> jmerlin: Yes.
[12:56] <MZM> larsemil: wait a min. You used apt-get install xorg-video-driver-ati?
[12:56] <gean> can any1 give ma please a hint on harddisk installing ubuntu ?
[12:56] <jmerlin> wtf..
[12:56] <david83> ^Down, did you tried to install the main program after you installed the old or the new libc6?
[12:57] <wegstar> grrr....
[12:57] <cafuego> jmerlin: Note that cups doesn't open that port. it only listens on it, on the 127.0.0.1 address.
[12:57] <MZM> my system is leaking memory..
[12:57] <printk> jmerlin: i suggest just get a router... you can leave that port open to your local network (i.e. you and your printer)
[12:57] <jmerlin> oh ok
[12:57] <wegstar> is there a way I can install ubuntu via the old installer without having to boot into the desktop?
[12:57] <jmerlin> can someone nmap me
[12:57] <jmerlin> 1-65535 TCP/SYN
[12:57] <wegstar> it's been running for 30 minutes now
[12:57] <wegstar> and no window is showing up.. it just keeps reading from the disc
[12:57] <gean> wegstar : there is an alternate distribution
[12:58] <jmerlin> so i can see what's open to an outsider
[12:58] <cafuego> jmerlin: 'netstat -nap'
[12:58] <printk> jmerlin: I charge $125 an hour for security consulting
[12:58] <printk> :P
[12:58] <wegstar> gean: as in another installer or a whole new distro?
[12:58] <jmerlin> i don't need a security consultant, i'ma noob at linux that's all
[12:58] <david83> !install > gean
[12:58] <jmerlin> i work IT at a university, i just don't know linux too well yet =>
[12:58] <cafuego> jmerlin: By default, NOTHING is available from the outside.
[12:59] <larsemil> MZM, back
[12:59] <wegstar> geez.. now it's frozen
[12:59] <jmerlin> then what are those two open ports way up there?
[12:59] <gean> wegstar: i have the same problem: mine cannot recognize CDROM and remains frosen at mountin fs
[12:59] <MZM> larsemil: wait a min. You used apt-get install xorg-video-driver-ati?
[12:59] <wegstar> oh
[12:59] <gean> wegstar: where?
[12:59] <david83> jmerlin they are locally open
[12:59] <cafuego> jmerlin: way up there where?
[12:59] <wegstar> it seems to be loading the installer
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 37968/tcp open  unknown
[01:00] <wegstar> and has run out of ram
[01:00] <larsemil> mzm that did not work. it never did in dapper or breezy either. i always had to use the ati installer from their homepage
[01:00] <printk> those are locally opened application ports
[01:00] <printk> probably irc for one :)
[01:00] <jmerlin> nope
[01:00] <jmerlin> i scanned it before i started irc
[01:00] <wegstar> which is weird since my computer is beyond their minimum requirements
[01:00] <printk> oh
[01:00] <cafuego> jmerlin: What does netstat say they are?
[01:00] <^Down> david83: I haven't touched with libc6, it's just that when I try to install one package, it tells me I need something with libc6
[01:00] <cafuego> jmerlin: 'sudo netstat -nap | grep 33440'
[01:01] <wegstar> stupid shipit.. I knew there was a catch
[01:01] <jmerlin> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:33440         0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     4145/hpiod
[01:01] <cafuego> jmerlin: Do you notice the 127.0.0.1 ?
[01:01] <jmerlin> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:37968         0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     4162/python
[01:01] <cafuego> jmerlin: *local* only
[01:01] <jmerlin> i notice
[01:01] <jmerlin> but what would hpiod and python need to listen for?
[01:02] <printk> yup, paranoid people *shakes his head*
[01:02] <printk> :)
[01:02] <MZM> larsemil: and error message from apt?
[01:02] <cafuego> jmerlin: Ask them via strace :-)
[01:02] <AIDS> Feel the power of AIDS
[01:02] <larsemil> mzm no not apt-get. the drivers from ati homepage. otherwise the driver dont load. i have it coming now.
[01:02] <cafuego> !ops aids is an idiot
[01:02] <jmerlin> im not quite familiar with that command =p
[01:02] <AIDS> !ops
[01:02] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[01:03] <MZM> larsemil: so - why are you not using drivers provided by apt?
[01:03] <cafuego> vaccine strikes
[01:03] <wegstar> ...
[01:03] <cafuego> Seveas: n bedankt ;-)
[01:03] <larsemil> mzm they never ever have worked before for me
[01:03] <djuuss> hey whats there in between 'btdownloadcurses.py'  and Azureus?
[01:03] <djuuss> i want GUI, but not java bloatware
[01:03] <cafuego> jmerlin: 'strace' can connect to a process and trace exactly what calls it makes (and their params)
[01:04] <david83> ^Down: i am a little confused maybe you got something miked up with ubuntu and dsl (damn small linux), because it says something like that. A newer lib is already installed maybe you can deinstall it check the dependencies which program did install that newer lib at first
[01:04] <wegstar> so the alternate installerl lshould work?
[01:04] <david83> ^Down: libc6 (= 2.3.5-1ubuntu12) but 2.3.6.ds1-4
[01:04] <wegstar> i.e, old 5.10 installer
[01:04] <wegstar> ?
[01:04] <MZM> larsemil: then why you ask for help? go for help to ati site
[01:04] <thomas_> what an idiot.
[01:04] <wegstar> people these days..
[01:04] <cafuego> jmerlin: probably more trouble than its worth. Suffice to say, unless you explicitly install say ssh, apache or a mail server, the system will not be listening on outside networks.
[01:05] <thomas_> okay so i'm a dapper user wondering about beryl.
[01:05] <gean> in my case the ubuntu-alternate-i363 doesn#t work... this is the 4th day that i try to manage an instzall
[01:05] <djuuss> forget beryl
[01:05] <thomas_> why is there no radeon driver for xorg?
[01:05] <thomas_> i'm just wondering right now djuuss
[01:05] <cafuego> thomas_: Not working as of yesterday.
[01:05] <jmerlin> i did install postgresql for a while
[01:05] <thomas_> ahh thanks a lot... that was my only question.
[01:05] <Seveas> cafuego, he's now launching a bot attack on -unregged 
[01:05] <jmerlin> i removed it since i wont be needing to do web dev stuff on this machine just yet
[01:05] <thomas_> radeon is kinda important hehe.
[01:05] <highneko> I want to install quake3. There's a linuxq3apoint-1.32b.x86.run file but I do'nt know what to do with it.
[01:05] <david83> Seveas: keep up the good work
[01:06] <cafuego> thomas_: There is.
[01:06] <djuuss> thomas_ keep an eye out for Aiglx
[01:06] <cafuego> Seveas: Clever to the power of clever.
[01:06] <wegstar> thanks all... I got it.. I'll use the alternate installer
[01:06] <thomas_> djuuss yeah that seems to be the answer. integrated xorg and XGL.
[01:07] <djuuss> you know what would be awesome
[01:07] <Juhaz> jmerlin, hpiod is some sort of printer driver service, python is a language interpreter so it's hard to say without knowing what app it's executing
[01:07] <gean> wegstar: if it doesn't work still, there are MANY other possibilities to install , look at
[01:07] <gean> !install
[01:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[01:07] <djuuss> to be able to implement your desktop into black and white (the game)
[01:07] <djuuss> you can drag/drop/throw/stack your files
[01:07] <JamesG> how can i execute a command upon bootup?
[01:08] <jmerlin> i figured out what they were
[01:08] <djuuss> or teach your creature to sort your mp3 collection, heh, the possibilities.. anyway, </offtopic>
[01:08] <jmerlin> just not why the hell they would need to be open lol
[01:08] <thomas_> JamesG: use the Sessions utility.
[01:08] <jmerlin> hpiod is HP Linux printing
[01:08] <jmerlin> i don't have an HP
[01:08] <jmerlin> so what the hell?
[01:08] <david83> highneko, go in the dir where the file is and hit ./linuxq3apoint-1.32b.x86.run but before make sure that it is excuteable for you
[01:08] <cpk2> how do you undo a link?
[01:08] <Crippy-Boy> djuuss, I prefer i program i once had when using win, It took a screenshot of the desktop and allowed you to smash it with a hammer, have mites chew it up, chainsaw, flame throwser and other such stuff
[01:08] <cafuego> jmerlin: It's installed by default, coz lots of people are. You're free to remove or disable it.
[01:08] <cpk2> specifically i want to undo this ln -s /dev/hdd /home/cpk1/.wine/dosdevices/f\:\:
[01:08] <jmerlin> cpk2, undo a link?
[01:08] <cafuego> jmerlin: If you think it's worth it.
[01:08] <jmerlin> just rm it.
[01:08] <JamesG> thomas: it needs to be executed upon BOOT and not upon user login (the command requires root) -- will 'sessions' tool still work for that?
[01:08] <thomas_> jmerlin: it is a cups frontend, it is not specifically for HP printers.
[01:08] <highneko> david83: Ok, thank you.
[01:08] <jmerlin> rm <link file>
[01:08] <jmerlin> a link is just a file like any other
[01:08] <cafuego> jmerlin: 'sudo update-r.c d-f hplip remove'
[01:09] <gean> wegstar: i suppoase it may help u: look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows or it/..
[01:09] <david83> highneko, you are welcom
[01:09] <david83> e
[01:09] <cafuego> 'update-rc.d' even
[01:09] <djuuss> Crippy-Boy, no i dont mean destroy it, i mean actual file organising, opening, using, in a 3d environment with a physics engine
[01:09] <thomas_> anyways, have a good night everybody.
[01:09] <thomas_> thanks for the help.
[01:09] <cpk2> jmerlin: so ln rm ~/.wine/dosdevices/f\:\: ?
[01:09] <david83> thomas good idea
[01:09] <Crippy-Boy> djuuss, Ahh, Misread what you were saying, Aye thatd be pretty cool
[01:10] <JamesG> anyone know how to execute a command upon booting? I didn't see anything in the wiki about it
[01:10] <Seveas> JamesG, edit /etc/rc.local
[01:10] <JamesG> rc.local --> thanks!
[01:10] <jmerlin> yes, the link the ln command created
[01:10] <jmerlin> just rm it
[01:10] <JamesG> Seveas: do you know if rc.local will be overwritten when i install the next version of ubuntu?
[01:10] <Seveas> JamesG, only if you format & reinstall ;)
[01:11] <Artemis3> hello there, anyone familiar with v4l2? i would like to have the tv card config settings saved if possible...
[01:11] <kothz> And besides, if you do overwrite rc.local, you should be able to restore it from a regular backup :)
[01:11] <JamesG> Seveas: no way i'm doing that :) thanks
[01:11] <Seveas> JamesG, in Ubuntu, configuration files aren't overwritten on upgrades. If that ever happens, it's a serious bug
[01:11] <JamesG> very cool
[01:12] <ChocoCid> config files not being overwritten is why you need to back up xorg.conf if you ever edit it, because you'll have to format to fix it if you don't know how :P
[01:12] <Seveas> ChocoCid, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:13] <gean> i have the following problems, that i want to report again: the installers (desktop & alternate) get frozen: alternate goes on, but never recognizes my CD-ROM, it insists to load floppy module, although i have NO floppy on laptop. ok, i read about a Knoppix installer to Ubuntu. (There should have been also a Debian-to Ubuntu installer, where the first steps of Hardware detection are fulfilled!) I don't have any (good) connection to the net. (Win-modem and tel
[01:13] <djuuss> if it isnt chococid and his insane obession with backin up xorg.conf.
[01:13] <ChocoCid> :P
[01:13] <djuuss> dude, thats such an excercise in futility
[01:13] <Zarephath> Ok I am stumped...I am trying to connect from my laptop running XP to the Ubuntu smb server...when I double click the icon and am prompted for username and put in my Ubuntu username and password it populates with Ubuntu/zarephath and dots for the password..not authenticating?
[01:13] <SkramX> booting up edgy cd, NemesisUK
[01:13] <djuuss> making a backup of xorg.conf? heh. The meek shall inherit the earth i suppose
[01:13] <ChocoCid> haha
[01:13] <gean> so, can i use debootstrap to go to my CD-ROM after knoppix detected it?!
[01:14] <SkramX> however the status bar doesn't seem to be progressing
[01:14] <moonburn> is there room for another question, or are we about full right now?
[01:14] <SkramX> im going to leave it alone
[01:14] <djuuss> is it full, moon?
[01:14] <moonburn>  n/m
[01:14] <der0b> zarephath: did you create an smbuser user/pass?
[01:14] <moonburn> chroot /mnt/sda5
[01:14] <moonburn> gets me
[01:15] <moonburn> chroot: cannot execute /bin/sh: Exec format error
[01:15] <djuuss> moonburn, try sudo chroot?
[01:15] <der0b> zarephath: smbpasswd -a <username>
[01:15] <Zarephath> der0b: Dang it...knew I would forget somethin'...I guess smbpasswd would do it...<sheepish grin>
[01:16] <moonburn> I'm trying to restore grub on another box, using a livecd...
[01:16] <moonburn> I've tried about 2-3 different ones, and I keep getting the same error...
[01:16] <ChocoCid> Use the super grub disc?
[01:16] <der0b> zarephath: no worries..  It annoyed me for days until I actually read something :P
[01:16] <Zarephath> der0b: Thanks
[01:16] <Samushka> how can i install something under apt-get and NOT make it remove or install dependancies? (aka: inistall it, no matter what it depends on, and don't touch any other installed packages)
[01:17] <moonburn> Choco> where can I find get that?
[01:17] <djuuss> apt-get install -nodepend <package> ?
[01:17] <ChocoCid> hold on, moonburn , getting a link
[01:17] <Samushka> ok lemme try (and thx)
[01:17] <moonburn> thanks
[01:17] <MrFeetio> hi
[01:17] <unawokendreamer> hi um I need help on rhythmbox
[01:18] <ChocoCid> http://adrian15.raulete.net/grub/tiki-index.php?page=En
[01:18] <MrFeetio> !dvd
[01:18] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:18] <Samushka> djuss: E: Command line option 'n' [from -nodepend]  is not known.
[01:18] <moonburn> thanks chococid
[01:18] <ChocoCid> np
[01:18] <highneko> Does anyone have quake3 for linux and know how to run it? I'm thinking a cd is required.
[01:18] <MrFeetio> what are some good dvd burning porgrams/frontends, i want to burn a dvd so a dvd player can read it
[01:19] <unawokendreamer> so....
[01:19] <unawokendreamer> rhythmbox>
[01:19] <unawokendreamer> ???
[01:19] <djuuss> unawokendreamer, ask a question and you shall be answered
[01:21] <SkramX> I get:
[01:21] <SkramX> hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit
[01:21] <SkramX> any idea?
[01:22] <Knifa> hi
[01:22] <Knifa> :3
[01:22] <SkramX> and also sqyashfs errors and VFS ones too
[01:22] <Knifa> How do I run a program from the terminal but have it run in the background and not close when I close the terminal window?
[01:22] <ChocoCid> uh... i think you want alt-f2 instead of terminal, maybe?
[01:22] <gnomefreak> Knifa: command &
[01:23] <Dr_willis> Knifa,  DONT use the 'X" clost button.. use the exit command.. and do 'command &'
[01:23] <Dr_willis> so... its.. command &
[01:23] <Knifa> kay
[01:23] <Dr_willis> exit &
[01:23] <Dr_willis> oops no & on exit. :)
[01:23] <gnomefreak> Knifa: you want to run say links in background it would be links &
[01:23] <Knifa> oh hurray
[01:23] <djuuss> i think the example would be more accurate  with lets say
[01:23] <Knifa> exit works
[01:23] <Knifa> :)
[01:23] <djuuss> keylogger &
[01:24] <ladydoor> livingdaylight: sorry, i was gone...how did it work?
[01:24] <djuuss> Hey anyone know a nice bittorrent client thats not bddownloadgui/curses.py, and not azureus
[01:25] <Knifa> out of curiosity, what does the X button do that exit itself doesn't?
[01:25] <moonburn> does winrar do okay with bzips, or should i use 7zip?
[01:25] <gnomefreak> Knifa: exit doesnt kill terminal
[01:25] <gnomefreak> well could
[01:25] <Crippy-Boy> djuuss, KTorrent? :P
[01:25] <Knifa> ah
[01:26] <djuuss> whohoo, more crippleware!
[01:26] <der0b> samushka: have you tried using apt-get -d to download the file and them dpkg -i --ignore-depends <filename>?  I don't know if it will work but it's worth a try
[01:26] <djuuss> think i'll just run bitcomet in wine
[01:26] <Crippy-Boy> djuuss, Crippleware?
[01:26] <Knifa> okay, thanks alot
[01:26] <Knifa> :)
[01:27] <suff0kate> i have a camera that connects to usb port how do i go about uploading pictures?
[01:27] <djuuss> Crippy-Boy, yeh i want functionality to add my own trackers, or only download some files in the torrent. Ktorrent doesnt do that, and azureus i really dont like
[01:27] <tom47> !hugin
[01:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:28] <djuuss> suff0kate, what kind of camera is it
[01:28] <Crippy-Boy> djuuss, KTorrent certainly does the latter, not sure about adding trackers
[01:28] <suff0kate> fuji film
[01:28] <weex> if I wanted to setup an ubuntu machine as a virus scanning computer where i could scan hard drives from that other os, is there software for that purpose?
[01:28] <gnomefreak> djuuss: please dont talk about or mention keylogger in here
[01:28] <djuuss> Hmm ok, i thought it was just a K frontend for standard bittorrent
[01:28] <gnomefreak> ktorrent
[01:28] <tom47> where is the edgy discussion channel please anyone
[01:28] <djuuss> gnomefreak: sorry, i was fishing for a bash quote
[01:28] <Crippy-Boy> djuuss, No, far from it.
[01:28] <djuuss> tom47, #ubuntu+1
[01:28] <gnomefreak> tom47: #ubuntu+1
[01:29] <tom47> gnomefreak aha thank you thank you do you think i could remember that <emabarrassed face>
[01:29] <tom47> djuss ty too
[01:29] <djuuss> -.- i was first
[01:29] <MrFeetio> if yo build azureus from source it isnt all buggy
[01:30] <Crippy-Boy> Azureus isnt all buggy if you replace the crippled .jar that comes with az from the ubuntu repo's anyway
[01:30] <der0b> cripples?
[01:31] <der0b> d
[01:31] <MrFeetio> i want to burn dvds that a dvd player can read, what program can do this?
[01:31] <gnomefreak> -s +d
[01:31] <djuuss> Hmm.. ill try ktorrent first. Azureus 'feels' like it eats a lot of system recources
[01:31] <gnomefreak> it does
[01:31] <der0b> anyway, how is it crippled?
[01:31] <Crippy-Boy> der0b, Prehaps that was the wrong choice of words, Broken would be correct.
[01:31] <MrFeetio> well azureus is java based
[01:31] <gnomefreak> most java gui's do
[01:31] <djuuss> MrFeetio: Try k3b, it should give you everything you need
[01:31] <MrFeetio> thanks, ill look into it
[01:33] <MrFeetio> how well will k3b work in gnome?
[01:33] <gnomefreak> yes
[01:33] <three> it works great
[01:33] <Subhuman> MrFeetio, its fdine
[01:33] <Subhuman> fine*
[01:33] <PhantasyHawk> Can someone give me the console command that runs the X server config inside the terminal window?
[01:33] <MrFeetio> ok, cause i dislike kde
[01:34] <gandalfcome> I have ubuntu dapper server edition on my machine. I installed swat but can't access that from another pc. Do i have to disable some firewall for port 901. please help? thanks
[01:34] <der0b> can't the gnome burn function burn dvds?
[01:34] <gnomefreak> der0b: gnomebaker should and so should nautilus
[01:35] <der0b> That's what I meant, nautilus..  was checking.  thanks gnomefreak
[01:35] <der0b> It's just a proper directory tree and files no?
[01:35] <Crippy-Boy> PhantasyHawk, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[01:35] <PhantasyHawk> Thats the one, crippy...thanks a lot, Im having a total brain fart today
[01:35] <MrFeetio> what does a dvd player read, data, iso?
[01:35] <Crippy-Boy> no worries
[01:36] <Crippy-Boy> VOB files.
[01:36] <MrFeetio> does k3b convert them?
[01:36] <der0b> mrfeetio: it reads vob files but gets the info about those files from an ifo.  you have to have the proper layout on the dvd
[01:37] <MrFeetio> der0b: can you direct me to a walk through?
[01:37] <MrFeetio> i have .avi
[01:37] <SuperMiguel> which program can i use to resize my actual ubuntu hard drive
[01:37] <der0b> For linux?  nope sorry lol..  I would start at doom9.org
[01:37] <der0b> It's been a while since I authored a dvd
[01:38] <Crippy-Boy> buy a divx/xvid dvd player, makes life so much easier, and cheaper :D
[01:39] <THX-1138> 
[01:39] <THX-1138> SuperMiguel: Gparted (it's available on a live cd also)
[01:40] <gavrik> exit
[01:40] <SuperMiguel> which program can i use to re size my actuall linux hard drive
[01:40] <THX-1138> SuperMiguel: It is already installed in ubuntu
[01:41] <moonburn> does SGD have SATA support?
[01:41] <MrFeetio> i burning the dvd for a friend
[01:41] <SuperMiguel> there is any test to know if my hard drive have some clusters failing?
[01:43] <cpk2> MrFeetio: I thin you want to get dvdauthor
[01:43] <der0b> mrfeetio: what format is it in now?  do you have an iso?  is it a series of directories?  and fyi, just becuase it's burned to a dvd, there is no promise that a set top player will read it
[01:44] <SuperMiguel> which partition does linux and windows can use simultaneously? fat 32?
[01:44] <Distro^Junkie> fat32
[01:44] <MrFeetio> i dont know what my friend has, they are .avi files
[01:44] <bitviper> just installed dapper and I can't install networkmanager.  I see it in "Add/Remove Programs" but when I click it I get "network-manager-gnome is not available in and software channel. The application might not support your system architecture".  Weird.  I'm using a regular Toshiba laptop.
[01:44] <Dr_willis> SuperMiguel,  thers add ons for XP that let it read/write ext2/3 parritions
[01:44] <Dr_willis> !info network-manager
[01:44] <ubotu> network-manager: network management framework (daemon). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.2-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 532 kB
[01:45] <THX-1138> SuperMiguel - geeky but useful. testdisk. - likely just some confusion from gparted when it wrote to a fragmented ntfs partitio. - google for "SMART" and hard drive. - smart is drive monitoring.
[01:45] <Dr_willis> !network-manager
[01:45] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[01:45] <der0b> mrfeetio: you have to convert those to vob.  you have a job ahead of you.  you need to google for guides bro
[01:45] <MrFeetio> !vob
[01:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vob - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:45] <MrFeetio> can nerolinux do it?
[01:46] <THX-1138> !restrictedformats > MrFeetio
[01:46] <der0b> thx-1138: does that include info about transcoding?
[01:46] <cpk2> der0b: he also needs to make a title set probably
[01:46] <SuperMiguel> does linux can write to fat 32?
[01:46] <THX-1138> der0b - mencoder
[01:47] <der0b> thanks
[01:47] <bitviper> I started with that wiki about networkmanager.  I enabled all repos and updated.  That's why I'm confused.
[01:47] <Crippy-Boy> MrFeetio, This might be of some help http://dvdauthor.sourceforge.net/
[01:47] <Distro^Junkie> SuperMiguel: yes it can
[01:47] <Quintin> So I have a builtin speaker on a computer here that works with debian as expekted.  but on ubuntu, it works only as pc speaker, and not for normal audio!  any ideas on how to fix this?
[01:47] <Quintin> the sound card *is* working properly, as I can connect 1/8" to the machine and hear music movies etc
[01:48] <Crippy-Boy> MrFeetio, qdvdauthor - GUI frontend for dvdauthor and other related tools
[01:48] <Crippy-Boy> Both qdvdauthor and dvdauthor are in the ubuntu repos
[01:48] <MrFeetio> i have qdvdauthor
[01:48] <Crippy-Boy> no good?
[01:49] <jesse> SuperMiguel: Yes. Also see this http://sourceforge.net/potm/potm-2006-09.php
[01:49] <gean> i have more than 4 CDs and DVDs with installing Ubuntu, none of them starts installing. can i use the first steps of Knoppix (or Debian) install, and then, after properly having detected my hard, continue with the ubuntu install somehow (this should be tricky, but i assume all the risk)
[01:49] <AngryElf> how do i prevent services from loading -> from system->admin-> services I unchecked the ones i dont want, and yet they're rechecked after a reboot......??
[01:49] <bitviper> woops...The top repo was commented out.  All good now
[01:50] <Crippy-Boy> gean: Are you using the 'desktop' install cds? and where does it fail?
[01:51] <gean> crippy-boy: yes! the desktop is frozen! (at the 2nd step: mounting fs)
[01:51] <gean> crippy-boy: i even cannot use it as a live-cd
[01:51] <Crippy-Boy> gean, I know this will be a pain in the arse, but have you tried the alternate install cd?
[01:51] <michelp> if I isntall edgy, and they do the final release, i can just update synaptic and I'm using the release, right?
[01:51] <THX-1138> gean - feeling adventurous?  ide=nodma
[01:52] <gean> crippy-boy: i tried the alternate, too, i was lucky to go further, it READFS from the Cd-rom, tells me to fix lang & keyboard, then wants to install the cd-rom and CANNOT do it. I have to load modules... did all the stuff. no chance
[01:52] <THX-1138> gean - You *might* be able to use that as a cheatcode on the alternate cd install
[01:53] <THX-1138> gean nvm
[01:53] <Random_Transit> hey, question....i want to have top running on tty1 when ubuntu starts...how would i do this??
[01:53] <gean> THX-1138, yes and failsafe and all other options ii thought could stay in
[01:53] <Quintin> it works for regular sound in debian.  any ideas?
[01:54] <THX-1138> gean - The suspense is just killing me. - What make and model computer are you using?
[01:54] <cpk2> Random_Transit: err wouldnt you have to login on tty1 first?
[01:54] <gholen> Anyone who knows how to, and what tools to use, when syncing with a Motorola V360 cellphone?
[01:54] <Quintin> Random_Transit: put it in an init script
[01:55] <Random_Transit> cpk2, if that were true, how would Xorg run on startup?? ^_~
[01:55] <Random_Transit> Quintin, /etc/init.d right?
[01:55] <gean> i have a german cheapest model bought last days. 4USB, no floppy. The CD-ROM is detected by Knoppix, it gives me the name... It is a MEDION 19600.
[01:55] <djuuss> Hmm anyone know how to quickly setup a mouse wheel? i edited the xorg.conf buttons 5-->7 and the axis thing to 6 7, but now it uses my scroll wheel as back/forward while browsing instead of as a scroll. *very* annoying
[01:55] <djuuss> (i have a 5 button mouse btw)
[01:55] <Quintin> Random_Transit: sure
[01:56] <Quintin> djuuss: dpkg-reconfigure
[01:56] <gean> the name of the CD-ROM is HL-XX-XX and so on. (XX are letters like C,D,...)
[01:56] <tyler2435> hello.
[01:56] <tyler2435> i need help ./configure'ing something through the command line
[01:56] <Crippy-Boy> 'lo
[01:56] <Lilandra> Hey, can I have ubuntu-desktop, edubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop co-existing peacefully?
[01:56] <tyler2435> im quite a linux n00b heh ;/
[01:56] <Crippy-Boy> tyler2435, Whats up with it?
[01:57] <Random_Transit> tyler2435, what's the problem?
[01:57] <Crippy-Boy> Lilandra, If you like bloat
[01:57] <gean> THX-1138: is there any chance to install from the own harddisk?
[01:57] <Lilandra> Crippy-Boy: well not really but until I figure out what makes me happy
[01:57] <tyler2435> wellz
[01:57] <tyler2435> im a noob to command line and such
[01:57] <tyler2435> 1m
[01:57] <Crippy-Boy> Lilandra, Fair enough, and yeah, it should be fine.
[01:57] <tyler2435> i need to get to \usr\tyler\home\desktop\nefarious-1.0.1\
[01:57] <THX-1138> gean - yes, butyou will need some time to do it. kind of challenging.
[01:57] <Lilandra> ok, thanks...!
[01:57] <tyler2435> and if i do cd blah blah
[01:58] <tyler2435> then ./configure
[01:58] <tyler2435> it acts like ./configure is another dir to go into
[01:58] <Lilandra> do i have to choose what default window manager or desktop manager or something runs it?
[01:58] <Random_Transit> tyler2435, that means there's no configure script, usually
[01:58] <gean> Lilandra: (joke:) don't try to install also ubuntulite. it will remove by installation all the other stuff on the HDD
[01:58] <tyler2435> er
[01:58] <tyler2435> well
[01:58] <tyler2435> theres one alright
[01:58] <tyler2435> heh
[01:58] <Crippy-Boy> tyler, Does it give any output?
[01:58] <tyler2435> it says it in the readme and such even
[01:58] <tyler2435> er
[01:58] <tyler2435> 1m
[01:58] <tyler2435> i need to type it out heh
[01:59] <maccam94> argh... i've had ubuntu installed for the better part of a week, and i've STILL got no sound! :-(
[01:59] <THX-1138> gean - What Operating system does it normally run. - it;s easier if you can make it run linux (more options)
[01:59] <Lilandra> ok...um...ok gean
[01:59] <ladydoor> Lilandra: you can choose which to run. and there are more window managers than just the desktop environments
[01:59] <Crippy-Boy> tyler2435, Pastebin it
[01:59] <tyler2435> um
[01:59] <Crippy-Boy> tyler2435, And just making sure, You do have build-essential installed right?
[01:59] <Lilandra> ah! right thanks
[01:59] <tyler2435> maybe not?
[01:59] <Cass> maccam94, try running alsamixer and unsetting the external speaker ...
[01:59] <cpk2> gean: if you have the resources you can install from usb or do a net install
[01:59] <Cass> saw that as a prob this week
[01:59] <tyler2435> i must not.
[02:00] <Knifa> what version of firefox does ubuntu come with?
[02:00] <Knifa> it only says 2.0b2 D:
[02:00] <judith_> is it possible to use KDE dialogues and file selector in GNOME? How?
[02:00] <Random_Transit> tyler2435, do an ls -l configure
[02:00] <fluvvell> is there a recommended easy way to add a font ?
[02:00] <maccam94> Cass: that's what it's set to already
[02:00] <Crippy-Boy> tyler2435, Install it, You'll need it to build anything from source.
[02:00] <maccam94> the driver is picked up
[02:00] <gean> THX-1138: now there is only Wind* on hda1 and some recovery on hda2. i have partitioned hda3 to install. i can put there Knoppix for a short time with no problem.
[02:00] <fluvvell> !font
[02:00] <THX-1138> gean cpk2 - has it exactly
[02:00] <tyler2435> well
[02:00] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[02:00] <maccam94> but i get no sound
[02:00] <tyler2435> what do i do heh
[02:00] <Random_Transit> tyler2435, may i PM you?
[02:00] <Crippy-Boy> tyler2435, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:00] <tyler2435> of course
[02:00] <tyler2435> and one sec
[02:01] <Cass> maccam94, id say its a matter of playing with those settings till victory ... im on a mac just now so no chance to look 4 u
[02:01] <tyler2435> k
[02:01] <tyler2435> its installing atm
[02:02] <tyler2435> Crippy-Boy: its installing it atm
[02:02] <highneko> Does anyone have quake3 for linux and know how to run it? I'm thinking a cd is required.
[02:02] <michael> hello all
[02:02] <tyler2435> looks done.
[02:02] <Crippy-Boy> tyler2435, that might have been the problem ;-)
[02:02] <JamesG> is it possible to login via vnc from xp to ubuntu when the ubuntu box is not logged into yet? If not, can I configure ubuntu to not display a login screen and / or automatically login upon reboot?
[02:02] <tyler2435> heh
[02:02] <tyler2435> its done now.
[02:02] <tyler2435> so
[02:02] <tyler2435> run what from the terminal now?
[02:03] <Crippy-Boy> cd into the source directory of whatever your trying to compile
[02:03] <tyler2435> cd \usr\tyler\home\desktop\nefarious-1.0.1\
[02:03] <maccam94> Cass: i've changed everything around several times :-\
[02:03] <Crippy-Boy> and type ./configure
[02:03] <tyler2435> ./configure
[02:03] <tyler2435> yeah
[02:03] <tyler2435> ok
[02:03] <cpk2> !quake
[02:03] <ubotu> Quake runs natively under linux see http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/ for details
[02:03] <tyler2435> 1s
[02:03] <maccam94> Cass: seems like esd has trouble opening the card or something
[02:03] <epod> I'm having an odd issue.  I have an Nvidia HD Audio chip (Sigmatel Stac 92xx).  Ubuntu detects it fine, it shows up in Alsamixer, etc.  It's unmuted... yet no sound is made at all.
[02:03] <cpk2> highneko: look at that quake link
[02:03] <highneko> k, thnx
[02:03] <tyler2435> still acts like theres no file or directory
[02:03] <djuuss> !xorg
[02:03] <Cass> maccam94,  perms on /dev/dsp ?
[02:03] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:03] <gean> cpk2: i have a bad internet connection (phone call now). I'll try it from the math institute at week-end (i'm somehow tolerated there still). The net-install must work. But i still have no idea how to start the install! (there is a knoppix & internet install. The only way, since ALL install-CDs for ubuntu from download or shop fail at the first step!)
[02:03] <THX-1138> gean - if you have a net connection with linux (knoppix) or can boot from a floppy for debian style  net install - easiest might be to make a bootable usb key (prays your machine will boot from usb) you might change the recipe for usb key to copy iso image to the hard drive or tell knoppix to boot from an iso image copied to hard drive with "dd"
[02:04] <michael> i'm trying to set up wireless networking, and been at it for a week now... all i get is "destination host unreachable" even when putting 2 wireless cards in ad-hoc, same channel, same essid and give them manually an ip address (10.0.0.1-2)... does anybody have an idea?
[02:04] <tyler2435> Crippy-Boy: ill query you
[02:04] <gean> THX-1138: no floppy
[02:04] <Crippy-Boy> tyler2435, is configure definitley there?
[02:04] <cpk2> gean: net install would most likely be via your own internal network
[02:04] <Crippy-Boy> tyler2435, you got a link to whatever your trying to compile?
[02:04] <hockyhair> hola
[02:04] <hockyhair> im trying to use a diff/patch and im not sure of the options i should use
[02:05] <hockyhair> it's a *.diff and i have it in the dir i want to recompile
[02:05] <cpk2> !netinstall
[02:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[02:05] <Cass> hockyhair, usually its patch -p1 < patch.txt or something
[02:05] <cpk2> gean: that might make some good reading for you
[02:05] <hockyhair> Cass: with a diff file?
[02:06] <gean> THX-1138: i've also tried to install from my 2GB flash. initrd put there, copied all ubuntu-alternate, moved files from install to ./.. and changes scripts. BUT: my primitive bios didn't want to boot from it!
[02:06] <hockyhair> so patch -p1 < *.diff
[02:06] <Cass> hockyhair, yeah whatevr the diff is called
[02:06] <hockyhair> ok
[02:06] <THX-1138> gean - That was my next "hail mary" guess
[02:06] <hockyhair> also how can i get my sys to use a gtk theme always without loading gnome-control-center and setting it manually.. i don't use gnome
[02:07] <Cass> hockyhair, not sure you can use gtk thems without gnome...
[02:07] <cpk2> gean: that link has a link to a howto install from knoppix if you think that will work
[02:07] <THX-1138> gean - Ask Seveas, Amaranth or possibly cafuego if you see them. maybe ask again in #debian or #hardware.
[02:08] <epod> I'm having an odd issue.  I have an Nvidia HD Audio chip (Sigmatel Stac 92xx).  Ubuntu detects it fine, it shows up in Alsamixer, etc.  It's unmuted... yet no sound is made at all.  Does anyone perhaps have any insight?
[02:08] <cpk2> gean: I am assuming you have also checked the iso for errors before and after burning
[02:08] <maccam94> Cass: crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 2006-10-05 15:49 /dev/dsp
[02:08] <hockyhair> Cass: i use openbox, and after runing gnome-control-center and going to the theme it will use it
[02:08] <THX-1138> cpk2 - google for  MEDION 19600 - your luck may be better than mine.
[02:08] <Cass> maccam94, try setting chmod 666 to /dev/dsp, or add your user to audio group
[02:09] <Cass> hockyhair, i live and learn then ...  not a big theme user
[02:09] <maccam94> Cass: this is the main user account, it's got audio perms by default
[02:09] <Teri2007> herro
[02:09] <michael> i'm trying to set up wireless networking, and been at it for a week now... all i get is "destination host unreachable" even when putting 2 wireless cards in ad-hoc, same channel, same essid and give them manually an ip address (10.0.0.1-2)... does anybody have an idea? i'm kinda stuck myself... even ad-hoc mode won't work - what am i doing wrong here?
[02:09] <Teri2007> how can I uninstall & reinstall vsftpd on my ubuntu LAMP box?
[02:09] <maccam94> michael: some wlan drivers don't have ad-hoc suppot
[02:10] <Cass> maccam94, hmm dunno then ...   does esd give errors when using it
[02:10] <cpk2> THX-1138: nothing in english that looks like it might help =\
[02:10] <bernie_> how can i get a command to run when i come out of hibernate?
[02:10] <gean> THX-1138, cpk2: THANKS FOR HINTS! I think, that especially for my situation there should be invented a tool. I'll try to do it! The idea is: Use Knoppix (since Debian does not tolerate the migration) to detect all hard and create the fstab for the machine, mount the partition, where Ubu' should come in, and ensure the kernel sits there. Grub too. Thenn reboot, and the install-CD sould be correctly detected and start^``recovery''
[02:10] <michael> maccam94: even if iwconfig allows it?
[02:10] <maccam94> Cass: # esd
[02:10] <maccam94> Audio device open for 44.1Khz, stereo, 16bit failed
[02:10] <maccam94> Trying 44.1Khz, 8bit stereo.
[02:10] <maccam94> Audio device open for 44.1Khz, stereo, 8bit failed
[02:10] <maccam94> Trying 48Khz, 16bit stereo.
[02:10] <maccam94> oops >_<
[02:11] <Teri2007> anyone a vsftpd expert?  I need to know how to uninstall it and reinstall it
[02:11] <maccam94> Cass: after it says that last line it doesn't let go of the terminal
[02:11] <THX-1138> gean - sounds like a solid plan :)
[02:11] <Cass> maccam94, does dmesg show issues with sound after this
[02:11] <cpk2> gean: good luck =)
[02:11] <michael> I thought it was the card, so I tried with several, same results... must be something I'm doing wrong
[02:11] <THX-1138> Good Luck
[02:12] <michael> I've got 5 wifi adapters here, interchanged them all... no luck
[02:12] <SpudDogg> What is "Edgy" that I hear alot of people talking about
[02:12] <SpudDogg> ?
[02:12] <cpk2> SpudDogg: its the next ubuntu release due at the end of this month
[02:12] <THX-1138> "Edgy Eft" is the next release
[02:12] <gean> THX-1138: there is such a tool, debootstrap, it goes but http:// .. It has many scripts implemented in it. i just have to check all $VARIABLES and specify file:/// instead..
[02:12] <fowlduck> SpudDogg: next version of ubuntu
[02:12] <Cass> maccam94,  the last line is oops ?   if so does the rest of the system hang ?
[02:12] <maccam94> Cass: no lol i said oops because i pasted so many lines
[02:13] <SpudDogg> cpk2, so there is going to be a newer one than Dapper?  How is the install going to be?  Will it be possible to upgrade?
[02:13] <Cass> maccam94, heh, thought the kernel was complaining
[02:13] <THX-1138> gean - Yes, your machine would be something like an enterprise server. no disks
[02:13] <cpk2> SpudDogg: yes, should be easy and yes
[02:13] <maccam94> lemme see what dmesg says, Cass
[02:13] <SpudDogg> cpk2, cool, thanks
[02:13] <SpudDogg> cpk2, any idea the ETA?
[02:14] <cpk2> SpudDogg: the ubuntu team has a new release every 6 months
[02:14] <cpk2> !schedule
[02:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[02:14] <jester45> could anyone help me use gnomebaker i dont know what im doing worng but every time i try to burn it my dvd gets ejected then gnomebaker says that it failed
[02:15] <Cass> jester, ty running it as root ... i had the same prob, and its something to do with cdrecord
[02:15] <gnomefreak> jester45: does it state why it fails if you maybe click more info or something like that
[02:15] <gean> jester45: try k3b (KDE equivalent) instead. sometimes it has a better burn!
[02:15] <jester45> it has no more info
[02:15] <LuisMendes> I wanna try Banshee Player, but I have a few questions; Is there an equalizer?
[02:15] <ArrenLex> K3B is life.
[02:15] <Crippy-Boy> Theyre both just front ends :-/
[02:16] <tyler2435> its not working
[02:16] <jester45> i like cui its fun
[02:16] <tyler2435> i installed the one thing
[02:16] <tyler2435> and i did cd \usr\tyler\home\desktop\x3\
[02:16] <tyler2435> then ./configure
[02:16] <tyler2435> and still
[02:16] <gean> sure, just leard about cdcrecord and mkisofs... but the eyecandies make life easier..
[02:16] <Crippy-Boy> tyler2435, do you have a link to what your trying to install
[02:17] <tyler2435> er
[02:17] <tyler2435> yeah
[02:17] <tyler2435> 1m
[02:17] <cpk2> tyler2435: what are you trying to install?
[02:17] <kromel> There a way I can tell an application to load on workstation 2 instead of 1?
[02:17] <tyler2435> an ircd
[02:17] <Crippy-Boy> Ill try compiling it aslong as its not hooge
[02:17] <maccam94> Cass: [17179590.184000]  intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 54868 usecs \ [17179590.184000]  intel8x0: clocking to 48000 \
[02:17] <jrib> kromel: possibly with devilspie if you wan't to make it a rule that happens every time
[02:17] <tyler2435> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=72192
[02:17] <maccam94> erm does edgy use AIGLX by default?
[02:17] <tyler2435> its X3 and nefarious ircu
[02:18] <f00> hello people
[02:18] <halex-ab> maccam94, it's built in be default, you gotta enable it though
[02:18] <kromel> jrib, yep, want to do it every time.  I'll check devilspie out.  Thanks!
[02:18] <tyler2435> im trying to run them through the command line
[02:18] <jrib> ubotu: tell kromel about devilspie
[02:18] <Cass> maccam94, not usefull then
[02:18] <gean> ok, folks, time to go: Bye! May the spirit of UbuntU be with U !
[02:18] <Crippy-Boy> tyler2435, Which package did you download?
[02:18] <cpk2> tyler2435: I am pretty sure there are ircd's in the repos
[02:18] <f00> i'm an "expert" user. I do not know ubuntu. Will the alternate release be more suitable to me?
[02:18] <jester45> running gnomebaker as root does not work
[02:18] <tyler2435> uh
[02:19] <tyler2435> its nefarious and x3
[02:19] <jester45> getting kk3b
[02:19] <Crippy-Boy> foo: depends if you want an install gui or not
[02:19] <tyler2435> the two
[02:19] <Cass> jester45, you mean it dont start or still fails
[02:19] <tyler2435> im trying to ./configure and compile them via the command lin
[02:19] <tyler2435> e
[02:19] <Cass> jester45, ill be surprised of k3b works as well, cdrecord will be the prob
[02:20] <tyler2435> i heard the founder died
[02:20] <tyler2435> sucks
[02:20] <tyler2435> ;/
[02:20] <kromel> jrib, sounds like it will do exactly what I want it to do.  Thank you so much for the quick response to my question.
[02:20] <f00> Crippy-Boy: alternate only differs for text-only install?
[02:20] <jrib> kromel: np
[02:20] <Crippy-Boy> foo: as far as i know
[02:20] <deitarion> Is there anything I should know (beyond the debian instructions) when building packages of my creations for Ubuntu users?
[02:21] <root___> hello
[02:21] <deitarion> Please note that I haven't read the debian instructions yet, so "beyond" includes equivalent instructions of higher quality.
[02:21] <Crippy-Boy> tyler2435, ./configure works fine for me, Nefarious-1.0.1
[02:21] <root___> having a trouble starting up my system.... it seems to hang on loading /etc/rc.local
[02:21] <hp-ibm> 
[02:21] <jrib> ubotu: tell deitarion about motu
[02:21] <root___> i looked at the file and there is nothing in it....
[02:21] <Crippy-Boy> Crippy-Boy, are you sure you have build-essential installed?
[02:21] <wickedpuppy> is it jap or chinese ?
[02:21] <jester45> k3b
[02:21] <deitarion> Thanks.
[02:21] <jester45> oops
[02:22] <root___> how do i delete a file i had to compile myself?
[02:22] <ixian_> Hi i need help... i am running breezy badger and followed the instructions here ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion ) to install firefox 1.5.. however the flash player does not work. i have installed flashplayer-mozilla and it doesn't work in FF 1.5 because im guessing it installed to the old firefox. can someone help me out?
[02:22] <jrib> deitarion: there is an intro guide on help.ubuntu.com that you should be sure to check out as well
[02:22] <tyler2435> Crippy-Boy
[02:22] <deitarion> That looks Chinese to me. I don't recognize any katakana or hiragana in it.
[02:22] <tyler2435> whatd you do through the command line?
[02:22] <root___> anyone?
[02:22] <tyler2435> exactly
[02:22] <tyler2435> ?
[02:22] <jrib> root___: can you be more specific?  You delete files with rm
[02:22] <ixian_> oh and i used the auto script on that page to do it.
[02:22] <root___> uninstall
[02:23] <Steil_> In Japanese dictionaries, the term "Jap" is only defined as a disparaging term used against the Japanese people, like it is the case in many English language dictionaries.
[02:23] <tyler2435> Crippy-Boy: what *exactly* did you type in the command line?
[02:23] <jrib> root___: you can try 'make uninstall' from the same place you ran 'make install', but no guarantees.  In the future try to use checkinstall
[02:23] <Cass> tyler2435, what errors do you get at configure
[02:23] <Crippy-Boy> tyler: http://rafb.net/paste/results/OP4qZ567.html
[02:23] <jrib> ubotu: tell root___ about checkinstall
[02:23] <bun-bun> ixian_: have a look at easyubuntu http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[02:23] <tyler2435> its not configure errors lol
[02:24] <root___> rgr
[02:24] <root___> ty
[02:24] <Cass> tyler2435, pastebin it so we can see the issue
[02:25] <tyler2435> i also happen to not be on my linux box
[02:25] <tyler2435> iv got 2 pcs
[02:25] <tyler2435> otherwise i wouldve pasted it right in ;P
[02:25] <tyler2435> ive got 2 pcs right here heh
[02:25] <Cass> heh, symptoms then ?
[02:25] <ixian_> bun-bun, will that work in my case though? i have firefox 1.5, which was not installed thorugh the package manager
[02:25] <tyler2435> Crippy-Boy: whatd you type through the command line though?
[02:26] <ixian_> *through
[02:26] <Crippy-Boy> tyler, i just extracted, cd ~/Desktop/sourcedir, ./configure
[02:26] <jshamash66> Can someone suggest a good program for creating pdf files (particularly, from .odt to .pdf)
[02:26] <tyler2435> um
[02:26] <junmin> hi, somebody has ATI IGP 340M with Xgl here?!
[02:26] <Quintin> jshamash66: .......... OpenOffice??
[02:26] <Crippy-Boy> tyler2435, Just make sure you have build-essential installed
[02:26] <jrib> jshamash66: openoffice lets you export to pdf
[02:26] <tyler2435> i do.
[02:26] <tyler2435> i installed it.
[02:27] <jshamash66> oh ok thanks
[02:27] <Crippy-Boy> tyler2435, type gcc in terminal, whats the output?
[02:27] <Quintin> How do I make my sound go through the PC speaker ??  It does that in debian, but no ubuntu
[02:27] <tyler2435> er
[02:27] <tyler2435> gcc: no input files
[02:27] <Crippy-Boy> build-essential is fine then
[02:27] <Crippy-Boy> whats the output from running ./configure? the exact output
[02:28] <RichW> PC Speaker? your gonna try and get music coming out of that little thing?
[02:28] <RichW> lol!
[02:28] <tyler2435> bash: cd: ~desktopnefarious-1.0.1./configure: No such file or directory
[02:28] <MoDoco> HELP-----I just got rid of Mandriva, & installed ubuntu, I am using an Nvidia Gforce 5700FX Ultra. I installed the Nvidia-glx. everything works till I (shut down) then the screen goes crazy, and the system WILL NOT shut down. can enyone help?
[02:28] <Dr_willis> RichW,  ,  been there, done that .. ages ago
[02:28] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:28] <Dr_willis> it sucked
[02:28] <RichW> Didnt know it was possible
[02:28] <tyler2435> Crippy-Boy: bash: cd: ~desktopnefarious-1.0.1./configure: No such file or directory
[02:28] <RichW> sounds like a laugh
[02:28] <Crippy-Boy> tyler2435, I hope you pasted that wrong, if not theres your error.
[02:29] <tyler2435> no
[02:29] <Cass> tyler2435, configure is not a dir ... cd to the sourcedir and ./configure
[02:29] <pppoe_dude> anyone tried opening an svg file in dia? its not doing anything
[02:29] <tyler2435> Crippy-Boy: its what i got.
[02:29] <tyler2435> Cass: he did ./configure himself with it.
[02:30] <tyler2435> Crippy-Boy: whatd i do wrong then?
[02:30] <Cass> tyler2435, yeah but you seem not to
[02:30] <tyler2435> obviously
[02:30] <Crippy-Boy> Look at what i pasted, you just need to do exactly that
[02:30] <Cass> you seem to try to cd to it
[02:30] <tyler2435> but that doesnt help me
[02:30] <ixian_> Hi i need help... i am running breezy badger and followed the instructions here ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion ) to install firefox 1.5.. however the flash player does not work. i have installed flashplayer-mozilla and it doesn't work in FF 1.5 because im guessing it installed to the old firefox. can someone help me out? i installed it using the script on that page
[02:30] <ed1t> is there a way to install nubuntu on your hard disk then to just use iso as a live cd?
[02:30] <tyler2435> Crippy-Boy: cd ~/Desktop/sourcedir
[02:30] <tyler2435> type that in?
[02:30] <Quintin> ixian_: use firefox to install the plugin ?
[02:30] <Crippy-Boy> cd to the source directory in my case ~/Desktop/Nefarious-1.0.1
[02:31] <Crippy-Boy> Whatever the source directory is tyler
[02:31] <junmin> hi, somebody has ATI IGP 340M with Xgl here?!
[02:31] <Cass> tyler2435, ~/Desktop/Nefarious-1.0.1 ; ./configure
[02:31] <Crippy-Boy> Then just ./configure when your in the dir
[02:31] <tyler2435> btw
[02:31] <tyler2435> also
[02:31] <tyler2435> why do i use \'s and you use /'s?
[02:31] <ixian_> Quintin, i try, it says i have to do a manual install..
[02:31] <tyler2435> for paths
[02:31] <jrib> how do I solve this problem:  "zsh: too many open files in system"  (besides closing files)
[02:31] <ed1t> is there a way to install nubuntu on your hard disk then to just use iso as a live cd?
[02:31] <Cass> tyler2435, \ is windows
[02:32] <Cass> tyler2435, \is the escape char in *nix
[02:32] <tyler2435> no
[02:32] <tyler2435> its not
[02:32] <tyler2435> heh
[02:32] <Dr_willis> ed1t,  hmm.. that sort of sounds weird.... if you install it.. why do you need the cd?
[02:32] <tyler2435> because i cant get around with /
[02:32] <tyler2435> and i can with \
[02:32] <ed1t> Dr_willis you cant install it thats the problem
[02:32] <Dr_willis> ed1t,  you just said you installed it...
[02:33] <Dr_willis> ed1t,  you mean "COPY" the iso file to hd, and install from the iso file?
[02:33] <Cass> tyler2435, strange ...
[02:33] <ed1t> Dr_willis yes
[02:33] <jmac__> I have Compiz installed and it works fine, but when I try to select gnome as a session the desktop starts to load and then boots me back to the login screen. Where (besides google, I've searched) would I look to find the root cause?
[02:33] <Dr_willis> ed1t,  not that i am aware of.. vmware perhaps.. but thats not a good way to do it.
[02:33] <Tonren> Guys, I'm trying to access computers on the local Windows network, but when I open up one of the workgroups, I get a "The contents of this folder could not be displayed" error.  How can I circumvent this?
[02:34] <ed1t> Dr_willis do they have like a package for fluxbox? like how they have kubuntu-desktop
[02:34] <Cass> Tonren, you authenticated to windows lan ?
[02:34] <lebafar> Hi, I am lookig for a .mpc converter to mp3. Does anybody have any idae about it please?
[02:34] <attah> Hi folks, i'm getting a very annoying error trying to install a old loki game: "setup.sh: 9: function: not found x86" any ideas? (works fine in dapper)
[02:34] <Dr_willis> ed1t,  all the packages for kubuntu exist for ubuntu, and xubuntu, and whatever-ubuntu-variant. :)
[02:34] <Dr_willis> ed1t,  they all use the same repos.
[02:34] <ed1t> Dr_willis so there should be package for nubuntu-desktop?
[02:34] <Dr_willis> attah,  see whats on line 9
[02:35] <Tonren> Cass: I'm not sure what that means, but I'm pretty sure I have, because I can access SOME workgroups, but not others
[02:35] <Dr_willis> ed1t,  ive never heard of nubuntu befor.. wtf is it.
[02:35] <gandalfcome> can't connect to my swat (samba) running on ubuntu dapper server? please help
[02:35] <Dr_willis> !nubuntu
[02:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:35] <tyler2435> 
[02:35] <ed1t> Dr_willis nubuntu.org
[02:35] <tyler2435> tyler@tyler-desktop:-$ cd ~\desktop\nefarious-1.0.1\
[02:35] <tyler2435> > ./configure
[02:35] <tyler2435> bash: cd: ~desktopnefarious-1.0.1./configure: No such file or directory
[02:35] <tyler2435> 
[02:35] <lebafar> Ive heard about gnormalize but I am not sure if it works on Ubuntu?
[02:35] <tyler2435> there
[02:35] <Dr_willis> !swat
[02:35] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:35] <ed1t> Dr_willis ubuntu with fluxbox
[02:35] <tyler2435> thats exactly in the command line
[02:35] <ixian_> !flash
[02:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:35] <root___> ok i have seriously powned my system
[02:35] <Crippy-Boy> ed1t, just install fluxbox?
[02:35] <harisund> Dr_willis, what's nubuntu?
[02:35] <Dr_willis> wouldent that be Flubuntu :)
[02:35] <root___> i dont know how i did it though
[02:35] <tyler2435> Crippy-Boy:
[02:35] <tyler2435> tyler@tyler-desktop:-$ cd ~\desktop\nefarious-1.0.1\
[02:35] <tyler2435> > ./configure
[02:35] <tyler2435> bash: cd: ~desktopnefarious-1.0.1./configure: No such file or directory
[02:35] <tyler2435> thats it.
[02:35] <Artemis3> anyone familiar with v4l2?
[02:35] <Cass> Tonren, im wodering if the ones you cannot access have got some kind of domain restrictions on them, and the ones you can access are shared to all
[02:35] <MoDoco> HELP-----I just got rid of Mandriva, & installed ubuntu, I am using an Nvidia Gforce 5700FX Ultra. I installed the Nvidia-glx. everything works till I (shut down) then the screen goes crazy, and the system WILL NOT shut down. can enyone help?
[02:36] <root___> when starting up... what comes after loading boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)
[02:36] <Crippy-Boy> tyler2435, because you using the escape char instead
[02:36] <Tonren> Cass: Last term, I was able to connect to the one that I can't connect to now, in Windows
[02:36] <Dr_willis> Hmm tyler2435  isent it cd ~/Desktop/whatever
[02:36] <Crippy-Boy> hence why your getting >
[02:36] <Tonren> Cass: I'm on a college campus, and it's "mshome', the default workgroup
[02:36] <Crippy-Boy> tyler, Do this
[02:36] <Dr_willis> cd, see where you cd'd to :P
[02:36] <ChocoCid> forward slashes, not backwards slashes. this isn't DOS
[02:36] <root___> what is the command to reconfigure x?
[02:36] <tyler2435> i understand.
[02:36] <raknam> hey, i just installed vnc4server, and i was wondering how i access the configuration files? is there an app
[02:36] <tyler2435> but it didnt work when i used forward heh
[02:36] <tyler2435> 1 minute then
[02:36] <ChocoCid> hrm
[02:36] <ChocoCid> odd
[02:36] <tyler2435> ... ill try again
[02:37] <Cass> Tonren, nothing has changed since last term ?
[02:37] <jmac__> root - gconf-editor
[02:37] <Cass> Tonren, could be the share owner has restricted it
[02:37] <Crippy-Boy> tyler, Thats because file names are case sensative, Desktop has uppercase D
[02:37] <Tonren> Cass: Nope.  I can access it from Windows... checked on another computer
[02:37] <jmac__> Not sure if that's what you mean?
[02:37] <Dr_willis> raknam,  read the vncserver script. :P it details what it reads from where
[02:37] <tyler2435> well if i use / then i cant cd ANYWHERE
[02:37] <gandalfcome> dr_willis it doesnt talk about swat installation
[02:37] <root___> i would love too but i cant get a display
[02:37] <ChocoCid> just cd one at a time then
[02:37] <Crippy-Boy> tyler, show me the output of using /
[02:37] <ChocoCid> like cd Desktop
[02:37] <ChocoCid> which is actually the problem
[02:37] <Cass> Tonren, is this share server 2000 or XP or what >
[02:37] <ChocoCid> linux is case-sensitive
[02:37] <ChocoCid> it's Desktop, not desktop
[02:37] <Crippy-Boy> ChocoCid, i just said that :P
[02:38] <Tonren> Cass: Um, I think it's just an ad-hoc server.  I'm assuming that most people who run it are on XP.
[02:38] <ChocoCid> ah, got lost in the conversation :P
[02:38] <raknam> dr_willis: where do i find that? sorry i'm relatively new to linux
[02:38] <Cass> Tonren, no i mean the server, could be it 2k3 server or something ...  and possibly you need an account on it now you have to authenticate with
[02:38] <Dr_willis> use 'which vncserver' and see where its at..
[02:39] <tyler2435> bash: cd: /home/tyler/Desktop/nefarious-1.0.1/: No such file or directory
[02:39] <Cass> Tonren, what user are you logged in as under windows and what is the user under linux
[02:39] <Tonren> Cass: I don't think so.  I can access it without authentication on another windows computer.
[02:39] <root___> i need to know the command to recongifure xorg... what is it?
[02:39] <tyler2435> but i CAB get there using \ anyway
[02:39] <tyler2435> can*
[02:39] <jrib> root___: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:39] <tyler2435> but i still cant ./configure either way
[02:39] <Tonren> Cass: Also, I'm fairly certain that our IT staff has no idea how to set that up.
[02:39] <raknam> dr_willis, thank ya
[02:39] <Tonren> Cass: They can barely work the packet-shaper.
[02:39] <tyler2435> bash: cd: /home/tyler/Desktop/nefarious-1.0.1/: No such file or directory
[02:39] <tyler2435> crimsun
[02:39] <tyler2435> er
[02:39] <tyler2435> Crippy-Boy*
[02:39] <Dr_willis> Several VNC-related files are found in the directory $HOME/.vnc:
[02:39] <lebafar> I cant find this gnormalize app even when I look for a synaptic search on ubuntu. Any idea if it is compatible?
[02:39] <jmac__> root - are you using xorg?
[02:39] <root___> correction
[02:40] <Dr_willis> tyler2435,  learn to hit the TAB key to do file name completion to avoide typos
[02:40] <Crippy-Boy> tyler try cd ~/Desktop what happenes then?
[02:40] <Tonren> Cass: My fiancee's windows laptop is logged in as "Sarah" and I'm logged in as "mcantor" on my Linux laptop.
[02:40] <hockyhair> is there a package for libtoolize?
[02:40] <hockyhair> !libtoolize
[02:40] <Cass> Tonren, haha, need to see the output of smbclient -L <ipaddress> -N   do you get any
[02:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libtoolize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:40] <A> Ubuntu is ~680MB .. The only disc I have is DVD-r (and  not CD-R/RW) .. And Nero doesn't allow me to burn into DVD, cause of it's file size, is there a way around this?
[02:40] <root___> i need to know what the command is to uninstall the kde gdm and reinstall it... i think the 3ddesk package botched it
[02:40] <Cass> Tonren and your fiance is able to access the share then ?
[02:40] <tyler2435> er
[02:40] <tyler2435> im in
[02:40] <tyler2435> Crippy-Boy
[02:40] <tyler2435> o0
[02:40] <Dr_willis> A - ive heard people ask that same Q befor.. but not sure if its doable.
[02:40] <tyler2435> it worked
[02:40] <Dr_willis> A i did it by mistake once.. andit dident work/boot
[02:40] <lebafar> In other words is it possible to obteign a app other than searching from inside the system ?
[02:40] <tyler2435> i still need to keep navigating through tho
[02:41] <Dr_willis> tyler2435,  your bash-fu is improving... :)
[02:41] <tyler2435> heh
[02:41] <junmin> hi, somebody has ATI IGP 340M with Xgl here?!
[02:41] <jmac__> root sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[02:41] <A> Dr_willis I tried burning 3.7GB iso image, and worked. But not for 680mb (Ubuntu,.iso) :( I guess cause of it's size !
[02:41] <Crippy-Boy> tyler2435, Now cd into the source directory (REMEMBER: Case sensative)
[02:42] <cafuego> junmin: Mot quite, IGP320 (works more or less fine)
[02:42] <Tonren> Cass: That's odd... now she can't.  Ugh... I wish they'd just fire the IT staff already
[02:42] <tyler2435> wohz
[02:42] <tyler2435> Crippy-Boy
[02:42] <tyler2435> i used ~/Desktop/
[02:42] <tyler2435> then cd \X3\
[02:42] <tyler2435> then i could ./configure
[02:42] <tyler2435> but i couldnt do cd /X3/
[02:42] <tyler2435> its weird heh
[02:42] <Cass> Tonren, possibly the added a firewall or your clients have one in place stopping smb traffic
[02:42] <tyler2435> i did get it to ./configure though.
[02:42] <Crippy-Boy> :-/
[02:43] <tyler2435> its weird
[02:43] <tyler2435> heh
[02:43] <junmin> cafuego, ???
[02:43] <tyler2435> ill keep messing with it
[02:43] <A> Dr_willis so, your telling me, there is no way to insert the ~680MB Ubuntu Desktop ISO Image, into my DVD-R ?
[02:43] <Tonren> Cass: I'm absolutely certain that not EVERY computer on the workgroup has a firewall up
[02:43] <Tonren> Cass: And there's absolutely no reason for IT to have added one
[02:43] <Tonren> Cass: Also, I was just talking to someone yesterday who was browsing the intranet
[02:43] <Cass> tyler2435, you wont get /X3 to work unless X3 is in the root dir (under /)
[02:43] <Dr_willis> tyler2435,  you DONT want to use \   :) pull that key off the keyboard.. :) untill youlearn to use it properly
[02:43] <Dr_willis> A i burnt one  once that way.. it dident boot..
[02:43] <Crippy-Boy> tyler2435, When your in ~/Desktop, you dont need the leading /, Also when your in desktop, paste the output of ls for me?
[02:43] <Crippy-Boy> in a pastebin
[02:43] <Dr_willis> A ive heard that some windows tools can do it.. but never tried
[02:43] <tyler2435> actually
[02:43] <tyler2435> i just got it working
[02:43] <tyler2435> ..
[02:43] <tyler2435> that way
[02:43] <A> Dr_willis perhaps, you burned it the wrong way?
[02:43] <tyler2435> 0o
[02:43] <root___> x is looking for /dev/wacom... what is that?
[02:44] <tyler2435> i just got it working using \ also
[02:44] <tyler2435> and
[02:44] <Tonren> tyler2435: I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but try using punctuation instead of the enter key, dude
[02:44] <tyler2435> Dr_willis: thats a good idea i personally think
[02:44] <Cass> Tonren, without seeing the ouput of smbclient -L <server> -N i cant judge
[02:44] <tyler2435> Tonren: ill do what i want heh
[02:44] <Tonren> Cass: What's the server name of the default windows network?
[02:44] <Cass> Tonren, i mean do you get a list of shares with that ?
[02:44] <Dr_willis> A i dident mean to burn it at all.. i grabbed the wrong disk :P
[02:44] <lebafar> Does audio convert converts mpc to mp3?
[02:44] <Crippy-Boy> tyler2435, I dont mean to sound like a dick here, But why dont you read a linux basics doc, Learn how to navigate, manage files etc properly.
[02:44] <tyler2435> i did
[02:44] <tyler2435> heh
[02:44] <Cass> Tonren, i duuno your network mate, it must have an ip address
[02:45] <tyler2435> i went through the docs.
[02:45] <Dr_willis> Read it again....
[02:45] <tyler2435> -.-
[02:45] <Tonren> Cass: Oh, it's proably just my default gateway
[02:45] <Dr_willis> you must of missed part of the  basics. :)
[02:45] <Cass> Tonren, just use the smb name
[02:45] <tritium> Crippy-Boy: be nice please
[02:45] <Tonren> Cass: Sorry, I don't know what you mean by that...
[02:45] <hou5ton> at one point, on a previous Ubuntu install, I had the Win key set so that it opened Synaptic, but now I can't remember how I did that.  I'vfe checked the Preferences Menu options, etc, and can't find how I did that.  Any ideas?
[02:45] <tyler2435> well i just compiled X3
[02:45] <lebafar> Hey could someone help me here please?
[02:45] <Cass> Tonren, nope not unless its runnig a router
[02:45] <tyler2435> thank you all for your help
[02:45] <tyler2435> appreciate it
[02:45] <Crippy-Boy> tritium, I was being nice, it was meant in a polite way ;-)
[02:45] <A> Dr_willis what burning software, did you used?
[02:45] <Cass> Tonren, well i mean just use the name of the box under windows network
[02:45] <Dr_willis> tyler2435,  check out tldp.org for guides
[02:46] <Crippy-Boy> tyler2435, did you make && make install?
[02:46] <Tonren> Cass: I'm not talking about a box... I'm talking about a workgroup.
[02:46] <Dr_willis> A i think i used k3b
[02:46] <tyler2435> i only make'd.
[02:46] <tyler2435> but i do see an executable
[02:46] <Cass> Tonren, yeah but the "box" that is shareing the files is a memer of a workgroup
[02:46] <Tonren> Cass: Yeah, but I can't even access the workgroup!
[02:47] <Cass> Tonren, ok what is the name of the share you try to access or cant you see the workgroup at all ?
[02:47] <Tonren> Cass: If I go to "windows network", I can see a list of all the workgroups.  When I doubleclick "mshome", I get the error.
[02:47] <MoDoco>  HELP-----I just got rid of Mandriva, & installed ubuntu, I am using an Nvidia Gforce 5700FX Ultra. I installed the Nvidia-glx. everything works till I (shut down) then the screen goes crazy, and the system WILL NOT shut down. can enyone help?
[02:48] <A> anyone knows "rubso" ?
[02:48] <Cass> Tonren, ok in that case there probably is a problem with the mshome workgroup or your client does not know how to find it
[02:49] <Tonren> Cass: Yeah, apparently now no one can connect to it.  It's not Linux's fault.  XD
[02:50] <fowlduck> MoDoco: press ctrl + alt + f2
[02:50] <fowlduck> MoDoco: login
[02:50] <Cass> Tonren, heh thats a releif then :-D
[02:50] <fowlduck> MoDoco: type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:50] <fowlduck> MoDoco: configure your card as you see fit
[02:50] <Tonren> Cass: How do I use smbclient to get a client listing of a workgroup, or connect to any arbitrary computer on the network whose name I know?
[02:51] <tyler2435> okw
[02:51] <tyler2435> well
[02:51] <tyler2435> thank you for your help
[02:51] <tyler2435> it workspretty good now
[02:51] <fowlduck> MoDoco: make sure you choose the the nvidia driver and not nv
[02:51] <tyler2435> :)
[02:51] <Cass> Tonren, smbclient -L servername -N will give a list of shares on that
[02:51] <tyler2435> cya.
[02:51] <Cass> Tonren, man smbclient will tell all you need to know
[02:51] <chupacabra> seems better since i turned the screensaver off
[02:51] <czer323> !ntfs
[02:51] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[02:52] <fowlduck> chupacabra: because you're relying on a lot of autoconfiguration which doesn't always get it just right.  At least, that's what I think
[02:52] <Dr_willis> 'using samba' is a very good book on samba - thats avilable ONLINE for Free. (well the older editions are)
[02:52] <Tonren> Cass: LOL, I was wondering when you were going to get tired of me and tell me to look at the man page
[02:52] <fowlduck> chupacabra: and instead of border-line-trolling, ask a question
[02:52] <Cass> Tonren, no at all ... its just easier for you to read than me to try to explain ...   im happy to help get you connected but man will teach
[02:53] <Tonren> Cass: I know, I was just being facetious.  :P
[02:53] <lebafar> !fuse
[02:53] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:53] <Cass> Tonren, :-p
[02:54] <PseudoPlacebo> Question- how hard is it to get dual-screen working on Dapper?
[02:57] <codecaine> anyone in here use gedit extensively?
[02:57] <halex-ab> PseudoPlacebo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOut
[02:57] <codecaine> im looking for some key binding information, what keys do what while in the editor
[02:57] <daryl_> excuse me, anyone know how to get ipx to work with Linux?
[02:57] <PseudoPlacebo> halex-ab: I'm not using Nvidia nor am I using a TV...
[02:57] <halex-ab> PseudoPlacebo, sorry, wrong link..
[02:57] <halex-ab> If you're using ATI, then I have no idea how to do dualscreen..
[02:58] <suff0kate> can u get itunes on this?
[02:58] <halex-ab> NVIDIA can use TwinView
[02:58] <izm99> hey all.  how do i use scp to copy to a pathname that has a space in it?  I've tried all the quotes/escapes I can think of.
[02:58] <ciphernemo> What's the difference between Removal and Complete Removal in Synaptic Package Manager?
[02:58] <Jbirk> Hello
[02:58] <Jbirk> I installed No Machine's NX Server
[02:58] <Jbirk> and NX Node
[02:58] <Jbirk> and NX Client
[02:59] <Jbirk> But, I cannot login to it
[02:59] <Jbirk> It get Authentication failed
[02:59] <Ransom1> I folks... I was hoping I could beg some help off of somebody.  I'm a linux noob though.   I just installed 64 Bit Ubuntu, and I can't seem to get it to regognize my wireless
[02:59] <paotzu> ciphernemo: removal is like using apt-get remove, complete removal is using --purge, so it deletes the configuration files
[02:59] <Cass> izm99, scp filenam server:/pathto/dir\ with\ space/
[02:59] <ciphernemo> paotzu: ahhhh, thx! :)
[02:59] <izm99> Cass, that doesn't work.
[03:00] <Ransom1> I found some linux drivers on the intel site, but I can't seem to figure out how to install them correctly
[03:00] <Megaqwerty> I was wondering if there was any way I could resume a download in firefox after a computer restart. I have the .part file, does that help?
[03:00] <tritium> Ransom1: which wireless?
[03:00] <Cass> izm99, no ?  strange ... have you tried scp filename server:"/pathto dir with space"
[03:00] <PseudoPlacebo> WHere is xorg.conf ?
[03:00] <pedro> eu fui tentar instalar ... o xgl aki e agora toda vez quando vo iniciar o sistema da um erro-- soh da pra entrar por startx
[03:00] <Ransom1> Intel Pro 3945
[03:01] <tritium> PseudoPlacebo: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:01] <halex-ab> PseudoPlacebo, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:01] <Ransom1> Centrino Core Duo 2 1.8
[03:01] <PseudoPlacebo> Thanks thanks.
[03:01] <PseudoPlacebo> =] 
[03:01] <izm99> Cass, yep.  also no worky.
[03:01] <pedro> como eu fao pra resolver isso:?
[03:01] <cpk2> !es
[03:01] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:02] <Somazx> I could use some help. I'm trying to upgrade from warty to hoary. It seems I need to switch the kernel ... how do I proceed on this?
[03:02] <pedro> #ubuntu-br
[03:02] <Jbirk> has anyone got No Machine working?
[03:02] <cpk2> hrmm i dont think he was speaking spanish actually =P
[03:02] <Megaqwerty> is there any way I could resume a download in firefox after a computer restart? I have the .part file, does that help?
[03:02] <Megaqwerty> cpk2: No, I'm pretty sure that was french
[03:02] <ChocoCid> yeah, go back to the same page and click download again in firefox
[03:02] <cpk2> i saw the fui and just assumed spanish heh
[03:02] <PseudoPlacebo> Ugh. The dapper install. How do I change the screen resolution about 800x600.
[03:03] <PseudoPlacebo> My system preferences thing has only one option: 800x600
[03:03] <Ransom1> Tritium: hey man... do you know if they are supposed to install automatically on either the 64 or 32 bit versions?  And how hard is it to install one of those tarball files.  I just spent the last 2 hours trying with no luck.  :)
[03:03] <tritium> PseudoPlacebo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and choose the resolutions you want
[03:03] <paotzu> Ransom1: Ransom1: you can try searching for intel 3945 and dapper, there are a couple of different messages about it with some instructions
[03:03] <tritium> Ransom1: they should, yes.  I have ipw2200, and it works out of the box
[03:03] <izm99> Cass, it returns "ambiguous target"
[03:04] <Ransom1> tritium: 64 or 32bit?
[03:04] <Megaqwerty> ChocoCid: I clicked the link, and it only gives me two options "Open with" and Save to Disk"
[03:04] <paotzu> Random1: looks like what people are doing is upgrading the firmware on those
[03:04] <ChocoCid> click the same as before, it *should* resume where it left off
[03:04] <Megaqwerty> nope
[03:05] <Cass> izm99, have you tried quouting and escaping ? or even scping from the remote dir to the local one ?
[03:05] <PseudoPlacebo> DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[03:05] <PseudoPlacebo> =\
[03:05] <Megaqwerty> argh, is there some kind of download manager extension for firefox?
[03:05] <Ransom1> paotzu: do you know if that's a 32/64 bit issue?
[03:05] <Dr_willis> Megaqwerty,  last i looked the firefox extension site had some
[03:05] <Megaqwerty> thanks
[03:06] <Tonren> Hey guys, is there a way to access an AIM fileshare using Linux?
[03:06] <Megaqwerty> I think you can do it with gaim
[03:06] <tritium> Ransom1: I have 32 bit, but it should work on 64 as well.
[03:06] <paotzu> Ransom1: it's not, there are just some steps to get it working
[03:07] <Ransom1> ok thanks guys.  Like I said I'm a total linux nooblet.  So I'll keep trying.
[03:07] <Somazx> udev requires a kernel >= 2.6.8, upgrade aborted
[03:07] <fraroco> hello eveybody, I have a HP laptop, dv1325, so When  I work with the battery feeding my laptop, It just fixies 30 min. and when I use my lap whith Windows it fixies for four hours, what's going on whith my battery??
[03:07] <tritium> Ransom1: 3945 you said?
[03:08] <Ransom1> tritium: correct.
[03:08] <fraroco> hello eveybody, I have a HP laptop, dv1325, so When  I work with the battery feeding my laptop, It just fixies 30 min. and when I use my lap whith Windows it fixies for four hours, what's going on whith my battery??
[03:08] <tritium> Ransom1: please run "modinfo ipw3945"
[03:08] <Cass> izm99, or try scp "filename" "server:/pathto/dir\ with\ space"
[03:08] <vladuz976> i want to design and print a product catalog. I was thinking of using latex since it gives nice quality printouts, anybody know other programs?
[03:09] <Ransom1> tritum: done
[03:09] <Dr_willis> scribus perhaps vladuz976
[03:09] <MoDoco_> HELP----just installed Ubuntu, using an Nvidia Gforce 5700FX Ultra, installed the Nvidia-glx, everything works, have Nvidia splash screen when loading. But, when I shut down the system, the screen goes crazy, & the system WILL NOT shut down. CTRL+ ALT+ F4 just causes the screen to go black, with a bunch of dots, & it will not do enything else. Any ideas?
[03:09] <tritium> Ransom1: did you get info back?
[03:09] <vladuz976> Dr_willis: what is that?
[03:09] <Ransom1> tritum: yup.  lots of stuff.  Apparently it can see it :)
[03:09] <Dr_willis> vladuz976,  a Desktop Publisher program
[03:09] <tritium> Ransom1: good
[03:09] <Dr_willis> !info scribus
[03:09] <ubotu> scribus: Open Source Desktop Publishing. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.4.1.dfsg-1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 5056 kB, installed size 15360 kB
[03:10] <paotzu> vladuz976 - scribus, pagestream (commercial), artstream (commercial)
[03:10] <Dr_willis> I rember when Desktop Publshing was the 'big' thang. years ago
[03:10] <tritium> Ransom1: please "sudo modprobe ipw3945", and then your wireless card should be seen
[03:10] <Ransom1> tritum: that makes me think that maybe the driver is in fact installed...
[03:10] <vladuz976>  paotzu thanks, i don't wanna buy anything unless it's really worth it
[03:10] <brendon> hi all  using kubuntu,  just wondering what is the best ipod application,  as i use to use gtkpod on ubuntu dapper and edgy and it worked no probs i have installed kubuntu and gtkpod don't work  any ideas
[03:10] <paotzu> vladuz976 - artstream is mostly for people who use SGI machines but there is a linux version
[03:10] <Dr_willis> valehru,  Scribus - free :)
[03:11] <izm99> Cass, I'm now having permission probs...  have to resolve.  Thanks for your help, I'll let you know if I get it working. :)
[03:11] <tritium> Ransom1: it is installed by default with ubuntu kernels
[03:11] <Cass> izm99, try user@server
[03:11] <izm99> doesn't matter.  same user
[03:11] <Ransom1> tritium: ok, just ran sudo modprobe ipw3945.  It then asked for the password, which I provided, and it went back to a black cd.
[03:12] <Ransom1> tritium: yes, just a plain old default emt64 install
[03:12] <Cass> izm99, but same user id on both boxes ?
[03:12] <izm99> yep
[03:12] <tritium> Ransom1: okay, fine.  Now try to configure your network
[03:12] <Cass> izm99, as long as its not root :-)
[03:12] <tritium> Ransom1: make sure "ipw3945" is listed in /etc/modules
[03:12] <izm99> Cass, hah.  nope.  i bet that would work, tho
[03:13] <Cass> izm99, heh, not unless ssh is set to allow root logins
[03:13] <paotzu> I prefer scribus to most other things as it handles SVG nicely.
[03:13] <A> Can I install my ubuntu from network?
[03:13] <izm99> Cass,  it is.  :)
[03:13] <izm99> Cass, or I can at least su
[03:13] <vladuz976> Dr_willis: cool, thanks. scribus looks really good. I'll try that. maybe if the business grows and I have need i'll try the others
[03:13] <Dr_willis> A i think there is a pxe boot install method. The wiki/forums should mention it
[03:14] <daryl_> how do I get IPX to work?  I'm trying to run starcraft, and it says it "Unable to initialize network provider"
[03:14] <paotzu> A: there is a netboot image that installs from the ftp repository
[03:14] <Ransom1> tritium: I don't have a folder under /etc named modules, but there's one named modprobe.d, and yes, there's a file in there that says 3945
[03:14] <Cass> izm99, grep -i permit /etc/sshd/sshd_config and that should tell you if root logins over ssh is allowed.. su is different
[03:14] <tritium> Ransom1: it's a file, not a folder
[03:14] <chupacabra> what makes sudo better than just logging in?
[03:14] <tritium> You want to list that module name in that file by editing the file.
[03:14] <IcemanV9> !netinstall > A
[03:15] <RichW> chupacabra: its called security.
[03:15] <Quintin> chupacabra: you should never login as root
[03:15] <A> I have XP on One PC, and Laptop (Which I want to install Ubuntu).
[03:15] <chupacabra> one password. i dont get it
[03:15] <Dr_willis> security is a process. :)
[03:15] <Quintin> chupacabra: you can set a password for root, but if you are using sudo it uses the user's password
[03:15] <Ransom1> tritum: found it.  it says:
[03:15] <RichW> chupacabra: if windows did that.. virus's would have a harder time.
[03:15] <paotzu> chupacabra: one good reason is so that you don't accidentally do something like tar -zxvf a .tgz file in your home directory that had a /usr directory in it, then accidentally type rm -rf /usr instead of ./usr...
[03:16] <Ransom1> tritium: lp, psmouse, rtc, sbp2, sr_mod
[03:16] <Jbirk> Hello
[03:16] <tritium> Ransom1: add ipw3945
[03:16] <izm99> Cass, fyi: user@server:"/path/to/a\ dir/" works
[03:16] <IcemanV9> !sudo > chupacabra ;)
[03:16] <tritium> Ransom1: normally, it's autodetected, and you don't have to do what I'm telling you to do
[03:16] <Ransom1> tritium: close and save?
[03:16] <Cass> izm99, sweet :-)
[03:16] <chupacabra> paotzu: a nix admin should pay attention
[03:16] <Jbirk> I need help configureing nomachine
[03:16] <Jbirk> the nx server
[03:17] <Quintin> chupacabra: that's a dumb comment.  *any* admin should be expected to have a clue.  regardless of the OS
[03:17] <izm99> Cass, but i have a permission prob now.
[03:17] <chupacabra> tru
[03:17] <tritium> Ransom1: yes
[03:17] <izm99> Cass, user/group is set to "1000"  ...
[03:17] <izm99> must be how it's mounted...  it's my SD card in my PDA.  :)
[03:17] <chupacabra> just seems time consuming to me.  sudo that is
[03:17] <Cass> izm99, lol, thought you solved it ...   the uid/gid same on both sides ?
[03:17] <Ransom1> tritium: trouble.  It doesn't appear that I have necessary permissions :)
[03:17] <Quintin> I have a builtin speaker in an iPAQ desktop computer, and it outputs sound with Debian, but not with Ubuntu.  The soundcard *is* working, as I can plug in headphoens and get sound.  How do I get the builtin speaker going?
[03:18] <tritium> Ransom1: you need to use sudo
[03:18] <tritium> Ransom1: which editor are you using?
[03:18] <paotzu> chupacabra: if you do a bunch of root commands in a row you can do sudo su and then exit out of it
[03:18] <tritium> chupacabra: "sudo -i" then
[03:18] <Cass> izm99, or does this user even have perms to write to the target dir ?  whats the ownershop/perms on path to dir
[03:18] <izm99> Cass, no.  uid/gid=1000 on my pda....
[03:18] <Ransom1> tritium: gedit?
[03:18] <tritium> chupacabra: if you had time for gentoo compiling, you have time for sudo
[03:18] <crimsun> chupacabra: have you filed a bug about it and provided relevant details or described it here?
[03:18] <GiGaHuRtZ> The RT2500 wireless nic works "out of the box" in Ubuntu, right?
[03:19] <chupacabra> cool.  but doesnt sudo not allow certain commands?
[03:19] <Ransom1> tritium: it opened with it by default.  What's sudo?
[03:19] <Cass> izm99, pda ... wow ..  though to get it to write remotly for the same user the uid;s have to match as this is what matters not the name ...  if you chmod 777 the target dir does it work ?
[03:19] <paotzu> chupacabra: sudo also retains your "DISPLAY" variable setting if you want to run an GUI admin program
[03:20] <tritium> !rootsudo > Ransom1
[03:20] <izm99> Cass, if i create a new directory (with a space) it has uid/gid = "steve" and i can scp to it.
[03:20] <chupacabra> crimsun: you can be sure it ubuntu crashes again i'll be running gentoo again.  I backed it up.
[03:20] <izm99> Cass, but the directories that already exist there have uid/gid="1000"  ... which i'm not even sure what that is...
[03:21] <paotzu> chupacabra: besides, it's not like you can't set up the root user if you really want to
[03:21] <izm99> Cass, why are they 1000 is my question, i guess...
[03:21] <chupacabra> paotzu: found that out and it is cool.
[03:21] <chupacabra> that is weird to me
[03:21] <crimsun> chupacabra: that's great, but that doesn't answer my question :-)
[03:21] <Ransom1> tritium: sorry man, hardcore computer geek by linux newbie.  Are you refering to a command line?
[03:22] <tritium> Ransom1: did you get a message from ubotu with a URL?
[03:22] <Cass> izm99, thats probably the first user id used on creation of dir ...  try grep 1000 /etc/passwd /etc/group to see
[03:22] <Cass> izm99, sorry i mean creation of user account
[03:22] <chupacabra> that is your stock question/answer i am sure
[03:22] <izm99> Cass, grep gave nothin
[03:22] <Ransom1> tritium: no.
[03:23] <Ransom1> tritium: I'm on a different system though in case you're trying a "net send" type thing.  With wireless down I'm using my desktop to do the research for this notebook. :)
[03:23] <bud> can anyone recomend a good hard drive tester - i think i have got bad sectors on it due to over heating
[03:23] <crimsun> chupacabra: as the de facto audio maintainer, yes, it is nearly the stock question. It doesn't really help me resolve the issue if no details are provided, hence the question.
[03:23] <Cass> izm, then the user with a uid of 1000 does not exist on the target server ,,,  you get 1000 as owner of dir becasue the user does not exist else you would get a name
[03:23] <swashbucklinstev> I can't find mkdev.sh but lm-sensors wants me to use it to make i2c devices.
[03:24] <ubuntu_> hello
[03:24] <izm99> Cass, hmmm...  ok.
[03:24] <Teri2007> hello everyone
[03:24] <ubuntu_> hi everydoby
[03:24] <izm99> Cass, guess I should just chown chgrp everything?
[03:24] <ubuntu_> my name is george
[03:24] <chupacabra> i'm sure it will start working again so am not too worried.
[03:24] <tritium> Ransom1: no problem
[03:24] <Cass> izm99, yeah either that or create the steve user with uid 1000
[03:25] <ubuntu_> am new in this OS
[03:25] <chupacabra> i'll grok about and check it out then.
[03:25] <izm99> Cass, steve already exists...
[03:25] <izm99> :)
[03:25] <Teri2007> can any of you help me with mysql on ubuntu
[03:25] <rlandis> I can't get elmo to flush the messages after it delivers  them to my laptop
[03:25] <ubuntu_> yes i can
[03:25] <Cass> izm99, heh, or just add another user with 1000 then ... or chown steve dir then :-D
[03:25] <chupacabra> video is no fun without sound
[03:25] <bud> can anyone recomend a good hard drive tester - i think i have got bad sectors on it due to over heating
[03:25] <Ransom1> tritium: any programs defaulted with Ubuntu that can re-save this file?  I'm looking down the list to see if anything looks like it will work.
[03:25] <ubuntu_> i know wereverthing in mysql, posgre
[03:25] <Dr_willis> chupacabra,  depends on the video.. :P i knwo some that are better with no sound. :(
[03:25] <ChocoCid> doesn't fsck check the hard drive?
[03:26] <chupacabra> hehehe
[03:26] <ubuntu_> VIVA WINDOWS
[03:26] <Cass> Dr_willis, heh beat me to that :-)
[03:26] <tritium> Ransom1: just close it, and run "gksudo gedit /etc/modules", and re-edit it, then save it
[03:26] <ajax4> bud: What brand?
[03:26] <ubuntu_> WINDOWS VISTA THE BEST OS
[03:27] <Cass> troll
[03:27] <ladydoor> !windows
[03:27] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[03:27] <ladydoor> !offtopic
[03:27] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:27] <bud> ajax4, i have got a satellite pro laptop
[03:27] <ajax4> bud: What brand hard drive?
[03:27] <ubuntu_> YEAAAAAA WINDOWS IS THE NEW REVOLUTION
[03:27] <IcemanV9> !ops
[03:27] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[03:27] <ubuntu_> ON THE OS
[03:27] <PseudoPlacebo> How do I set up / turn my SSH server on in Dapper?
[03:27] <tritium> ubuntu_: I'll go ahead and warn you
[03:27] <ChocoCid> just ban him :/
[03:27] <statikeffeck> !vino-server
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vino-server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <statikeffeck> !vino
[03:27] <ubotu> vino: VNC server for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.13.5-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 162 kB, installed size 1776 kB
[03:27] <deyan> Where can I find the changelog for a package?
[03:28] <tritium> deyan: /usr/share/doc/<packagename>/changelog.Debian.gz
[03:28] <izm99> Cass, chown -R steve.users *.* worked.  Thanks! :)
[03:28] <bud> ajax4, do you know the comand to get a print out of hard ware
[03:28] <Tonren> Hey guys, I got this error trying to install Samba:
[03:28] <Tonren> update-rc.d: warning: /etc/rc2.d/K09samba is not a link to ../init.d/samba or /etc/init.d/samba
[03:28] <PseudoPlacebo> !ssh
[03:28] <Tonren> How do I fix it?
[03:28] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[03:28] <Cass> izm99, yeehaa :-)
[03:28] <nuked_omen> ubuntu: i don't like you
[03:28] <bud> ajax4, I CANT REMEMBER
[03:28] <ubuntu_> ANY WOMAN HERE
[03:28] <chupacabra> i have been in #ltsp forever and love y'all embracing it.  I always cussed Debian though
[03:28] <ajax4> bud: Go to the website of the hard drive manufacturer...most of them have a diagnostic utility you can download.
[03:29] <swashbucklinstev> I can't find mkdev anywhere.
[03:29] <gnomefreak> ty
[03:29] <Cass> ubuntu_, lol why are you a pimp ... looking to pimp them out
[03:29] <swashbucklinstev> Anyone got any ideas? I'm on 6.06 Dapper
[03:29] <Ransom1> tritium: tight.   Reboot?
[03:29] <gnomefreak> was wondering where all the pinging was
[03:29] <tritium> Ransom1: no need
[03:29] <statikeffeck> Tonren: are you sure that is an error?
[03:29] <tritium> Ransom1: just work on configuring your network now, and see if it works
[03:29] <Tonren> statikeffeck: It might also be this: invoke-rc.d: dangling symlink: /etc/rc2.d/K09samba.   But I nkow it's an error because aptitude also outputs this:
[03:29] <w30> ubuntu_, turn of your caps key. Please?
[03:30] <bud> ajax4, i really dont like compling stuff
[03:30] <Tonren> dpkg: error processing samba (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 102
[03:30] <tritium> w30: he's muted
[03:30] <nuked_omen> ubuntu_: i don't like you
[03:30] <Cass> w30, hes case insensitibve ...  typical winblowz troll
[03:30] <Quintin> I have a builtin speaker in an iPAQ desktop computer, and it outputs sound with Debian, but not with Ubuntu.  The soundcard *is* working, as I can plug in headphoens and get sound.  How do I get the builtin speaker going?
[03:30] <ajax4> bud: No, you download the utility from their site, burn it to a bootable cd or a floppy and reboot your computer and it will do the check.
[03:30] <Ransom1> tritium: one thing that confuses me is that under "WEP PASSWORD" it gives two options "hexidecimal" or "ACSI II" (or something like that)
[03:31] <statikeffeck> Tonren: oh ok I don't really know how to proceed from there. All I've been doing is following the Wiki step by step for everything
[03:31] <Ransom1> tritium: I'm actually using a WPA encrypted network if that makes any difference
[03:31] <ajax4> I get dependency errors when trying to install certain packages and I think it has something to do with trying to get XGL through the unofficial sources a while back. Can anyone help?
[03:31] <nuked_omen> ubuntu needs a lot of tweaking to be useful
[03:31] <nuked_omen> it's a shitty distro
[03:31] <bud> ajax4, oh ok thanks
[03:31] <fraroco> hello eveybody, I have a HP laptop, dv1325, so When  I work with the battery feeding my laptop, It just fixies 30 min. and when I use my lap whith Windows it fixies for four hours, what's going on whith my battery??
[03:31] <tritium> nuked_omen: watch your language please
[03:31] <fraroco> hello eveybody, I have a HP laptop, dv1325, so When  I work with the battery feeding my laptop, It just fixies 30 min. and when I use my lap whith Windows it fixies for four hours, what's going on whith my battery??
[03:32] <nuked_omen> tritium: i don't like you
[03:32] <tritium> Ransom1: you might want to install network-manager-gnome
[03:32] <tritium> nuked_omen: warning
[03:32] <Jbirk> I got the NX server working
[03:32] <ChocoCid> yay trolls :\
[03:32] <nuked_omen> tritium: i still don't like you
[03:32] <Jbirk> the only problem is that the client always closes on its own
[03:32] <Jbirk> I try to work and it just closes and shuts off
[03:32] <tritium> nuked_omen: I could care less, but you need to stop spamming the channel.
[03:33] <Ransom1> tritium: rats.  hard to do without WIFI.  I'll plug it in and give that a shot.  Anyway you think the drivers technically should work now?  If so I'll work on the configuration end no problem.  ANd thanks a ton man.  WIthout wireless it makes researching and learning this thing a pill
[03:33] <tritium> Ransom1: it'll install wpasupplicant, which you'll need.
[03:33] <Quintin> How do I force a default theme for all users?
[03:33] <Teri2007> I had mysql running great.  Now when I try to start it I get: ...failed or took more than 6s.        Please take a look at the syslog. Could not open required defaults file: /etc/mysql/debian.cnf Fatal error in defaults handling. Program aborted
[03:33] <Teri2007> any ideas how to fix this?
[03:33] <ladydoor> !language nuked_omen
[03:33] <nuked_omen> i wasn't spamming the channel, i was speaking my mind in the freenode network
[03:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about language nuked_omen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:33] <Ransom1> tritium: hopefully eithernet works.  but I have to run.  I really really appreciate the help.  Take care
[03:33] <ladydoor> !language > nuked_omen
[03:33] <tritium> Ransom1: take care
[03:34] <statikeffeck> Quintin: and not allow them to change it?
[03:34] <nuked_omen> lauguage is english
[03:34] <tritium> nuked_omen: well, you'll have to watch your foul language
[03:34] <Quintin> statikeffeck: that is fine, but I want to specify a certain default
[03:35] <ChocoCid> yay, blatant trolling :(
[03:35] <ChocoCid> seriously, grow up
[03:35] <kromel> for the life of me, i cannot remember. how do I verify that my sound card is using: hw:0,0?
[03:35] <Teri2007> help someone!
[03:35] <statikeffeck> Quintin: I see. good question. I guess you would have to find out where the default files are stored for Gnome & Naut, then modify them
[03:36] <fraroco> hello eveybody, I have a HP laptop, dv1325, so When  I work with the battery feeding my laptop, It just fixies 30 min. and when I use my lap whith Windows it fixies for four hours, what's going on whith my battery??
[03:36] <daryl_> Excuse me, I found a Linux IPX-Howto page, and it suggests installing IPXD.  But IPXD doesn't seem to be available.  And it also suggests using ipxripd, but it doesn't seem to 'make' right on ubuntu.  Anyone able to help me install/configure ipx to work in Ubuntu?
[03:36] <tritium> fraroco: fixies?  What does that mean?
[03:37] <fraroco> tritium I do not know how to say " works"
[03:37] <tritium> daryl_: ipx and ipxripd are available ubuntu packages in the repos
[03:37] <Teri2007> can anyone hear me????????????????????
[03:37] <gnomefreak> Teri2007: no
[03:37] <tritium> Teri2007: no, but I see what you type
[03:37] <statikeffeck> Quintin: I'm still learning how to search properly, but I would search for files that look like the gnome config files in your home directory somewhere else on the system
[03:38] <Teri2007> just checking.... I used to get responses on this channel.... feeling ignored
[03:38] <ajax4> Teri2007: If no one responds then no one knows the answer. Imagine what the channel would look like if every time someone asked a question, dozens of people all said "I don't know".
[03:38] <tritium> daryl_: see below:
[03:38] <daryl_> tritium, i found ipx, but I didn't find ipxripd.
[03:38] <tritium> !ipx
[03:38] <ubotu> ipx: utilities to configure the kernel ipx interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.6-3 (dapper), package size 35 kB, installed size 172 kB
[03:38] <w30> fraroco, maybe you need some power management utulities or something? Google for Linux powermanagement, maybe something will show up?
[03:38] <tritium> !ipxripd
[03:38] <ubotu> ipxripd: IPX RIP/SAP daemon. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.7-13.1 (dapper), package size 21 kB, installed size 128 kB
[03:38] <Teri2007> oh ok
[03:38] <tritium> daryl_: they're both in universe
[03:38] <ajax4> Teri2007: I'd try doing a Google search with the exact error message you got.
[03:38] <fraroco> tritium:  do you understand?
[03:38] <Teri2007> ajax4.  ok I'll try that
[03:38] <tritium> fraroco: yes, sorry
[03:38] <fraroco> w30:  how can I download it?
[03:39] <w30> fraroco, What?
[03:39] <daryl_> tritium, forgiv eme.  but I thought I had universe repository enabled.  how do I make sure I do?
[03:39] <w30> fraroco, Google?
[03:40] <fraroco> w30: no google, but powermanagement.."
[03:40] <paotzu> quit
[03:40] <daryl_> tritum, i didn't realize i had to search for the full name "ipxripd", I thought I could just search for ipx
[03:40] <tritium> daryl_: System->Administration->Software Sources
[03:40] <daryl_> tritium, I getting it now.
[03:40] <tritium> daryl_: apt-cache search ipx should find it
[03:40] <THX-1138_away> Hi tritium.
[03:40] <tritium> hi THX-1138_away
[03:40] <daryl_> tritium, its installed now. thanks
[03:40] <w30> fraroco, What I meant was Google for it and let Google lead you to info or a site.
[03:40] <tritium> daryl_: cool
[03:41] <ajax4> I get dependency errors when trying to install certain packages and I think it has something to do with trying to get XGL through the unofficial sources a while back. Can anyone help?
[03:41] <THX-1138> tritium - another convert. - What will bill gates do if this continues?...
[03:42] <tritium> THX-1138: :)
[03:42] <Quintin> I am getting green flickers in my videos sometimes with both vlc and mplayer... horizontal lines
[03:42] <Quintin> any ideas how to fix this ?
[03:42] <Ernie> Hi, I have an atheros wifi card, and whenever WEP is enabled using the network config, I'm not able to connect.  Any ideas?
[03:42] <fraroco> w30:  I do not know how the powermanagement works so I need help to do it.
[03:42] <KanRiNiN> Hey, I have a question about the ATI drivers, and yes I've worked through the wiki.
[03:42] <bruenig> !ask
[03:42] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:43] <botxj> hey can i ask about that?
[03:43] <twowordz> that was just an intro ;)
[03:43] <w30> fraroco, I don't either but Google does, Go see Google.
[03:43] <KanRiNiN> Well, the xorg-driver-fglrx was working fine until I upgraded some packages including the kernel and now the package won't work, nor will method 2
[03:43] <KanRiNiN> my xorg is fine, the same as it was
[03:44] <THX-1138> tritium - Are the boot cheatcodes?
[03:44] <bruenig> I love how the ubotu message which is very demeaning and almost says "hey retard, ask your question" ends with a :) I guess to soften the blow
[03:44] <twowordz> KanRiNiN: the driver is a module, if you use another kernel, you ahve to reinstall it
[03:44] <phr0stbyte> HAHA! bcm43xx is now working - without network manager!
[03:44] <phr0stbyte> or ndiswrapper
[03:44] <w30> !retard
[03:44] <fraroco> w30: ok thanks for help..
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about retard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <KanRiNiN> right.  I did that too.  I think it's because when I ran aticonfig it put 2 screen and monitor sections in there
[03:44] <KanRiNiN> but now can't tell which one's right
[03:44] <tritium> THX-1138: huh?
[03:44] <fraroco> w30:  do you know how can I refresh my firefox?
[03:44] <THX-1138> tritium - are there boot cheatcodes to turn off/on dma select vga in place of vesa?
[03:45] <wickedpuppy> bruenig, we apologise ... we will change it to RTFM next time...
[03:45] <tritium> THX-1138: I don't understand what you're asking
[03:45] <bruenig> wickedpuppy, I like it, just find it kind of annoying, but rtfm would be funny too
[03:45] <w30> fraroco, click on view and then reload
[03:45] <Quintin> I have a builtin speaker in an iPAQ desktop computer, and it outputs sound with Debian, but not with Ubuntu.  The soundcard *is* working, as I can plug in headphoens and get sound.  How do I get the builtin speaker going?
[03:45] <bruenig> kind of amusing*
[03:45] <rlandis> anyone know elmo mail
[03:45] <ajax4> !libfontconfig1
[03:45] <ubotu> libfontconfig1: generic font configuration library (shared library). In component main, is optional. Version 2.3.2-1.1ubuntu12 (dapper), package size 112 kB, installed size 260 kB
[03:46] <wickedpuppy> bruenig, ask for help next time and i will gladly supply with healthy dose of rtfm ... hope you will find it amusing :P
[03:46] <THX-1138> trittium - There was someone having problems with an older machine. they needed to turn off dma and enble vga.
[03:46] <ajax4> !libfontconfig1 edgy
[03:46] <ubotu> libfontconfig1: generic font configuration library - runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 2.3.2-7ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 117 kB, installed size 268 kB
[03:46] <bruenig> and I will
[03:46] <botxj> !ligglx
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ligglx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:46] <bruenig> so long as it is followed with information
[03:46] <botxj> !gtk
[03:46] <ubotu> gtk is the gimp toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and a lot of other applications
[03:47] <botxj> i love you Uberpussy
[03:47] <botxj> i mean ubotu
[03:47] <botxj> omg...
[03:47] <botxj> sick names on here
[03:47] <trappist> that'll learn you to use tab complete
[03:47] <botxj> trappist: :)
[03:47] <tritium> botxj: it's okay.  We know you used tab completion, so it's not your fault
[03:48] <twowordz> but still some one here is called Uberpussy
[03:48] <twowordz> ...
[03:48] <THX-1138> tritium - lol
[03:48] <foo> trappist: :)
[03:48] <ChocoCid> what's wrong with uber cats? >_>
[03:48] <foo>  Hm, ok, I installed gnome-cups-manager ... and I am trying to add the network printer, but I don't see the hp officejet driver. I  installed hpoj ...restarted cups, and restarted the cups manager ... still don't see the drive. What do I need to install?
[03:48] <botxj> yes let's call them "cats" for confidentiality
[03:48] <daryl_> tritium, this instruction says to build my kernel with IPX, Ethernet and /proc support.  do you know what it is asking me to do?
[03:49] <tritium> daryl_: you should already have all that
[03:49] <tritium> daryl_: ipx is built as a module (try "modinfo ipx" to verify)
[03:49] <twowordz> IPX?
[03:49] <twowordz> the network protocol?
[03:49] <tritium> indeed
[03:50] <twowordz> still around?
[03:50] <daryl_> tritium, lol it said stuff... so i'm guessing its doing what your suggesitng.
[03:50] <tritium> daryl_: good deal
[03:50] <daryl_> tritium, so does tha tmean ipx is installed and configured?
[03:50] <twowordz> support for it
[03:51] <ajax4> Could someone Dapper check something on their install for me? I need to find out what version of libfontconfig1 they have installed. I'm trying to troubleshoot something.
[03:51] <THX-1138> foo - What model officejet?
[03:51] <trappist> what do I need to dpkg-reconfigure or update-alternatives for to get the ncurses debconf back, instead of qt
[03:51] <foo> THX-1138: 6110
[03:51] <jmillikin> I know that new packages are put into stable distros from time to time...do only security problems qualify? Or do bugfixes also count for that?
[03:52] <THX-1138> foo - Ok, just curious about it.
[03:52] <AlexC> i have ubuntu 6.06 and i'm getting the kubuntu disk... can i install kde on ubuntu without installing the new OS?
[03:52] <tritium> daryl_: it means your kernel supports IPX
[03:52] <craigbass1976> What's the difference between installing kde from universe repos or multiverse?
[03:52] <crimsun> trappist: debconf
[03:52] <botxj> AlexC, that is an emphatic YES YOU CAN!
[03:52] <twowordz> craigbass1976: have a look at the versions
[03:52] <mousepad> hello from south america!
[03:52] <jmillikin> Because I have a buggy package installed in Dapper and Edgy. The Edgy package has a patch that fixes the buggyness, but I was wondering if the patch would show up in dapper
[03:53] <foo> THX-1138: hm, ok.
[03:53] <trappist> crimsun: oh.  duh.  thanks.
[03:53] <alex_> hi! can anybody tell me how to install System.Data in my mono??
[03:53] <daryl_> tritium, ok now it says to obtain, compile, and install ipxd.  but when I type ipxd, it seems to do stuff, so I think thats installed.  am I right?
[03:53] <THX-1138> foo - The driver included with ubuntu didn't work did it.
[03:53] <foo> THX-1138: on my desktop version, yes. but on the server edition and installing gnome-cups-manager - no.
[03:54] <craigbass1976> twowordz: If I added the repos in the gui tool, will they be available for apt-get comands?  I'm new to ubuntu, but understand repos sort of frmo using Fedora and yum for so long
[03:54] <ChocoCid> the gui is the frontend for apt
[03:54] <craigbass1976> Cool
[03:54] <twowordz> craigbass1976: yes
[03:54] <ChocoCid> i'm fairly sure that if you edit the gui thing, ti's the same as editing /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:55] <ChocoCid> you can look at that to check
[03:55] <lilbit> how does one list existing users from the command line?
[03:55] <THX-1138> foo - configuring printers has traditionally been difficult. (shrug)
[03:55] <foo> THX-1138: Not on ubuntu.
[03:55] <foo> THX-1138: desktop, at least. Ubuntu is the only distro that picks it up fine
[03:55] <mister_roboto> jmillikin: do you have the backports repository enabled? i believe you would need that to get such backported bug fixes
[03:55] <daryl_> tritium, man this instruction is killing me.  I'm guessin it expects me to have certain knowledge before attempting it.  its driving me insane, cause its not like i'm a new computer user.
[03:55] <foo> It's just that this server edition installs minimal.
[03:56] <jmillikin> mister_roboto: Yeah, I do. Should I request such a fix in the backports section of Malone then?
[03:56] <AlexC> botxj, how?
[03:56] <THX-1138> The desktop is easy - hp supporting linux and advances with gutenprint have made things a lot more mageable
[03:56] <mister_roboto> jmillikin: i suppose. not sure exactly how they get handled
[03:56] <daryl_> tritium, they keep telling me to do things, but not giving directions how to do them, and so forgive me
[03:57] <craigbass1976> ok, how to install kde?  I did apt-get install KDE, tried KDE* (got broken dependency errors but I thought apt-get took care of those)  Oh wait, I guess lowercase tookcare ofit.
[03:57] <ChocoCid> like what?
[03:57] <botxj> AlexC it's easy, just use your package manager to search for "kde" and install them, then you can switch all you like
[03:57] <AlexC> how do i install kde on ubuntu with the kubuntu disk
[03:57] <ChocoCid> if it gives you a command, just stick it in the command line
[03:57] <Flannel> AlexC: which kubuntu disk? desktop or alternate?
[03:57] <botxj> you dont need the kubuntu disk to install kde on ubuntu
[03:57] <AlexC> desktop
[03:58] <AlexC> i have slowest internet conection
[03:58] <mister_roboto> AlexC: if you're installing from kubuntu disk, you get kde by default
[03:58] <Flannel> He's looking to add kubuntu to ubuntu.
[03:58] <mister_roboto> Flannel: ahh
[03:58] <botxj> Flannel which doesnt make sense, does it?
[03:58] <Flannel> AlexC: you need to grab the Alternate ISO
[03:58] <AlexC> can't download more than 20mb
[03:58] <Flannel> botxj: yes it does, why wouldnt it?
[03:58] <AlexC> why?
[03:58] <botxj> kubuntu on ubuntu?
[03:58] <Flannel> AlexC: because the desktop CD can't be used as a repository
[03:58] <ChocoCid> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop :)
[03:58] <Flannel> botxj: sure, why not? gnome and kde installed?
[03:59] <mister_roboto> Flannel: sure it can
[03:59] <Flannel> mister_roboto: no it can't.
[03:59] <ChocoCid> ah, internet connection
[03:59] <ChocoCid> you can install kde from the disk, i just don't remember how
[03:59] <Weirdbro> Is there any way to type unicode characters from their numbers?
[03:59] <ChocoCid> i remember i installed ubuntu, xubuntu, and kubuntu to try them all out, i just forgot how
[03:59] <ChocoCid> !kubuntu
[03:59] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. To downgrade your version of kubuntu to an older version see: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=609.0
[03:59] <mister_roboto> Flannel: you trying to tell me you can't install packages off the cd? i have done it, and had cdrom in the sources.list to do so
[03:59] <botxj> Flannel, he's trying to install KDE on ubuntu, that seems redundant cause you can install kde from the repositories, no need for the kubuntu disk, right?
[03:59] <mister_roboto> Flannel: so in what way can't you?
[03:59] <ChocoCid> well, he said he has a slow internet connection
[03:59] <Flannel> botxj: he has dialup
[04:00] <botxj> or is AlexC... AH NOW I GET IT,,
[04:00] <botxj> dialup...
[04:00] <botxj> that explains it all
[04:00] <Flannel> mister_roboto: the alternate ISO is a repository, the DVD is a repository, the Desktop CD isnt a repository, it's a linux image.
[04:00] <tritium> daryl_: who is "they"?
[04:00] <daryl_> tritium, heh the folks who wrote the instructional howto document
[04:00] <AlexC> how do i get alternative cd?
[04:00] <mister_roboto> Flannel: ok, must have been using the alternate because it was a cd
[04:01] <Flannel> AlexC: you download it, unfortunately, or get someone to download it for you.
[04:01] <Flannel> mister_roboto: was it dapper? or earlier?
[04:01] <AlexC> i don't know anyone?
[04:01] <AlexC> !
[04:01] <mister_roboto> Flannel: dapper
[04:01] <AlexC> 6.06
[04:02] <indref> Well, I did it again.
[04:02] <Flannel> AlexC: your other option to have both installed is to dualboot between them.  Have them both installed side by side.  Unfortunately, that's far from optimal
[04:02] <indref> I messed with something that wasn't broken.
[04:02] <indref> And now, it's broken.
[04:02] <wickedpuppy> indref, that line is copy-righted to brittney spears ..
[04:02] <indref> Heh.
[04:03] <AlexC> but then i would have to partition
[04:03] <indref> Could anyone tell me what I have done to my beloved nVidia drivers?
[04:03] <Weirdbro> Is there any way to enter ALT codes without opening the character mapper?
[04:03] <indref> Because they were working before I ruined them.
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> indref, actually only you know what you did to your drivers ... can you tell me what i did to my ps2 ?
[04:04] <indref> I had the legacy drivers installed.
[04:04] <indref> Via the wishes of an online guide, I installed the newer ones, which deleted the old ones.
[04:04] <ciphernemo> My System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution isn't allowing higher resolution options. Is there a .conf file somewhere I can edit to change it? I have the linux-restricted-`uname -r`, nvidia-glx, etc. packages installed correctly and nvidia drivers working for my X.
[04:04] <botxj> !legacy
[04:04] <wickedpuppy> ah k .. why ? if it was working before ... i thought normally if its working don't fix ?
[04:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about legacy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:04] <indref> And now I'm stuck with the nv drivers.
[04:04] <wickedpuppy> indref, actually i am using nv drivers now .. its fine
[04:05] <indref> Yes, they are fine. But they offer no accel support.
[04:05] <indref> I had acell support before.
[04:05] <ciphernemo> indref: are you looking to install nvidia drivers?
[04:05] <indref> I did install them.
[04:06] <indref> And then I ruined them :<
[04:06] <tritium> indref: ubuntu packages?
[04:06] <wickedpuppy> indref, may i ask how did you found out about the acceleration ?
[04:06] <ciphernemo> indref: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:06] <indref> I didn't need that, I used Synaptic.
[04:06] <ciphernemo> indref: remove the packages (completely remove, ie: --purge) and then install them again
[04:06] <indref> Hmm. That's an idea.
[04:06] <reter> there is no internet on my ubuntu. how do i fix that?
[04:07] <SeanTater> do most external hard drives work on Linux?
[04:07] <ciphernemo> indref: make sure you install either nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-legacy depending on your card
[04:07] <indref> It says they are installed, but X says it's not there.
[04:07] <alex_ubuntu> exit
[04:07] <indref> I did legacy. Then, by accident, I did the nonlegacy. This deleted the legacy.
[04:07] <ciphernemo> indref: what does your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file state for device driver under devices section?
[04:07] <indref> I reinstalled the legacy, but it says they ain't there.
[04:07] <indref> Just a sec.
[04:08] <daryl_> hey tritium, it says an example is... ipx_internal_net add 0xab000000 1
[04:08] <reter> i have no internet on my ubuntu. how do i configure it to get internet again
[04:08] <ciphernemo> indref: purge all the nvidia stuff, and if you want, purge the linux-restricted-(kernel version) packages too
[04:08] <daryl_> tritium, how do i know if I should use that command or if I xhould change the 0xab000000, to something else?
[04:08] <indref> river		"nv"
[04:08] <indref> driver that is
[04:08] <THX-1138> reter - How do you usually connect? wired wireless dsl ppoe?
[04:08] <ciphernemo> indref: then retry it... make sure to completely remove those packages (not regular remove) to wipe configurations
[04:09] <indref> Ahh. I never did that. I will now.
[04:09] <reter> THX-1138,  ethernet, dsl. not wireless
[04:09] <ciphernemo> indref: nv driver is x/gnome default for nvidia, not accelerated or latest nvidia driver
[04:09] <indref> True.
[04:10] <ciphernemo> indref: nv is the equiv of open-source nvidia driver, where nvidia is restricted (free, but not open-source)
[04:10] <sethk> indref, nv is open source.   nvidia, which comes from the nvidia company, is partly closed source.
[04:10] <reter> THX-1138, i was upgrading to breezy and i did something that turned off my internet configuration
[04:10] <THX-1138> reter - Would you like the link for point to point protocol ?
[04:10] <reter> THX-1138, what is that?
[04:10] <indref> What I am going to do is completely remove all the nvidia drivers, plus the "Non-free Linux 2.6.15 modules on 386"
[04:10] <THX-1138> !dsl
[04:10] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[04:10] <indref> Which seems to be nvidia related.
[04:10] <johnt> hello all I would like some help with my ati mirage graphics card if possible please
[04:11] <indref> Then I will reinstall just the right ones.
[04:11] <indref> Cool?
[04:11] <THX-1138> reter - Did that help?
[04:11] <ciphernemo> indref: sounds good.. by non-free, you mean "restricted" as they're listed via package sources
[04:11] <indref> Yes
[04:12] <ciphernemo> Didn't get answered yet... My System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution isn't allowing higher resolution options. Is there a .conf file somewhere I can edit to change it? I have the linux-restricted-`uname -r`, nvidia-glx, etc. packages installed correctly and nvidia drivers working for my X.
[04:12] <john053> Enter text here...
[04:12] <poptones> i rebuilt my kernel and got no audio with my tv card. anyone have an idea how to fix?
[04:12] <crimsun> poptones: well, which tv card do you have?
[04:12] <poptones> an ol hauppauge, one of the best supported it seems
[04:12] <ciphernemo> poptones: have you installed ivtv, and if so, what version?
[04:12] <sethk> indref, nv is not wrong.  If you don't need 3d, nv is just fine.
[04:12] <indref> You are being very helpful ciphernemo, thank you :D
[04:13] <indref> sethk, I need 3d accel
[04:13] <ciphernemo> indref: np, I try :)  I have to since I'm linux-noobish
[04:13] <sethk> indref, ok, then you want the other.  just wanted to make it clear
[04:13] <poptones> crimsun, tvtimehas always "just owrked." however, when i installed adgy it also had this problem
[04:13] <indref> ciphernemo, You are doing a lot better than me.
[04:13] <indref> sethk, Thank you :D
[04:13] <crimsun> poptones: I need the precise model #
[04:13] <poptones> it also had this problem when i compiled the edgy kernel for dapper
 i need 3d too
[04:14] <sethk> johnt, ok
[04:14] <sethk> johnt, I may be the only one here who doesn't need 3d.  :)
[04:14] <indref> Hey!
[04:14] <indref> Do I need this? "NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'legacy' driver development files"
[04:14] <indref> dev files, what do they do.
[04:14] <ciphernemo> indref: I doubt it... sounds like only if you want to develop 3d apps
[04:14] <crimsun> if you're not sure, chances are you don't.
[04:15] <wickedpuppy> for development ??
[04:15] <indref> Oh. I don't. Cool.
[04:15] <poptones> it's a first gen media 100. the bttv module reports it as model # 6138
[04:15] <tgelter> who can help me get 5.1 surround sound w/ a nforce4 chipset?
[04:15] <ixian_> i'm trying to install easyubuntu on breezy, but when i try to run the file it gives me a "could not run easyubuntu.deb, archive type not supported".. any help?
 do you want me to tell you the prob or just go away lol??
[04:15] <crimsun> poptones: did you pass an explicit model= parameter to it?
[04:15] <poptones> yeah i tried both 2 and 10 (both hauppauge cards)
[04:15] <sethk> johnt, of course, tell me the problem, I'll try to help
[04:15] <reter> no
[04:15] <indref> Why is there a "remove" and then a "really remove" option?
[04:16] <reter> :(
[04:16] <poptones> the thing is it just started doing this with the 2.6.17 kernel
[04:16] <sethk> johnt, that's what this channel is for.
[04:16] <poptones> before it always just worked
[04:16] <poptones> five years now, never a problem
[04:16] <jman_> Hi all whenever I try to burn an audio cd in serpentene I get this error"The disc writing has started but failed, the disc maybe unusable" even though when i inserted linux recognized it as a blank disc, any input would be appreciated thanks in advance :-)
[04:16] <sethk> poptones, then back up a kernel version, and wait a couple of weeks until it gets fixed.
[04:16] <indref> Seriously, that is weird, "Remove it, but don't really"
[04:16] <sethk> indref, it isn't exactly that.
[04:17] <nanno> upgraded to edgy but gdm says cfg is messed up... gdm loads but without a theme and gives error to login and select a theme.. this did not help what gives?
[04:17] <poptones> but at least i got my cdrom back on my new core2 system, thats why i rebuilt the kernel
[04:17] <ciphernemo> poptones: unfortunately, things are bound to change on a system when you update the kernel
[04:17] <indref> sethk, Heh, what is it then? :D
[04:17] <sethk> indref, it's more, remove it even if you think it doesn't matter whether or not you remove it.
[04:17] <tgelter> does the soundblaster audigy work in 5.1 automatically? or should I just get an old Live! ?
[04:17] <poptones> yeah. u think i should be asking in the kernel dev room?
[04:17] <sethk> poptones, you can track down the kernel problem and fix it.
[04:17] <sethk> poptones, might not be a bad idea to ask there
[04:17] <indref> Ok! So now I have to change the xorg.conf part to "nvidia"
[04:17] <poptones> is there a kernel dev room just for ubuntu? it has some other hacks i know are not in the main
[04:17] <jman_> someone mind addressing my serpentine issue?
[04:17] <indref> And all should be peachy and good.
 I have this xorg-driver-fglrx installed but is is giving no direct renering and a mind blowing 4fps/
[04:18] <ciphernemo> Still didn't get answered yet??... My System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution isn't allowing higher resolution options. Is there a .conf file somewhere I can edit to change it? I have the linux-restricted-`uname -r`, nvidia-glx, etc. packages installed correctly and nvidia drivers working for my X.
[04:18] <nanno> ciphernemo: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:18] <sethk> jman_, the fact that it is recognized as a blank cd is more or less irrelevant.  something is going wrong during the write.  An incomplete write generally produces an unusable cd (or at least, may produce one).
[04:18] <ciphernemo> nanno: thx
[04:18] <johnt> the card is a sis 670 aka ati mirage
[04:18] <ciphernemo> nanno: which section of that file?
[04:18] <mister_roboto> jman_: have u tried just using a different disk? maybe it IS unusable
[04:18] <sethk> johnt, can you post your X log onto the paste web site?  there might be clues in it that we can look at.
[04:19] <jman_> sethk: the problem is it doesn't specify the error, I have tried two different discs I just bought these discs
[04:19] <ixian_> i'm trying to install easyubuntu on breezy, but when i try to run the file it gives me a "could not run easyubuntu.deb, archive type not supported".. any help? i am quite new to this
[04:19] <sethk> jman_, to get more diagnostics, you man want to try burning from the command line.
[04:19] <mister_roboto> jman_: or writing at a slower speed?
[04:19] <sethk> jman_, I'm not familiar with that program (I only burn with command line) so I don't know where it might hide errors.  odds are it just discards the info.
[04:20] <nanno> ciphernemo: your display device section - however, this may be better for you: back xorg.conf, open synaptic, then search for xserver-xorg. highlight it and goto package->configure... select auto detect
[04:20] <jolt> Im wondering what people think of the 8774 nvidia driver and is it worth trying to install it
 I cannot remember how the paste log ting works I only saw it once briefly
[04:20] <johnt> thing
[04:20] <nanno> ciphernemo: if that does not work just revert to the backup xorg.conf
[04:20] <sethk> johnt, it's very easy, it's just a web site.  you use an editor, copy the text you want, then paste it into the box on the site.
[04:20] <ciphernemo> nanno: thx, I'll try that
[04:20] <sethk> !paste
[04:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:20] <indref> Rebooting, wish me luck
[04:20] <jman_> hey setk i just found the properties where you can change the write speed thank you :-)
[04:21] <sethk> jman_, thank mister_roboto
[04:21] <mister_roboto> lol
[04:21] <sethk> jman_, he suggested it first
[04:21] <jman_> hmmmm just changed the write speed and it still giving me the same error
[04:22] <sethk> jman_, you need to get more information.  If this isn't too difficult for you, you can run your program under strace, and then use grep to discover the underlying cdrecord command.
[04:22] <ciphernemo> what's the command similar to #sudo -i  but keeps your current session? is it -m or something??
[04:22] <sethk> jman_, the cd drive lights do what you expect them to do?
[04:22] <nanno> upgraded to edgy but gdm says cfg is bad... gdm loads but without a theme and gives error to login and select a theme.. i did this, but it did not help - what should i do?
[04:23] <nanno> ciphernemo: man sudo :)
[04:23] <jman_> nope
 I posted that info on paste log
[04:23] <sethk> johnt, ok, paste the URL here so we can all see it.
[04:23] <ciphernemo> nanno: of course I can do that :) was looking for a quick answer :P hehe
[04:24] <nanno> ciphernemo: i know :P
[04:24] <ixian_> !easyubuntu
[04:24] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[04:25] <ciphernemo> that looks scary
[04:25] <ufo8mykat> hello
 Ok I think   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2577
[04:25] <sethk> johnt, ok, let me look
[04:26] <ciphernemo> ...pkill pkill pkill as easyubuntu automatically installs 2002 kernel headers
[04:26] <indref> module nvidia_legacy not found
[04:26] <ChocoCid> holy hell that's awesome
[04:26] <indref> It didn't work.
[04:26] <indref> If I installed it, why can't it see it?
[04:26] <ciphernemo> indref: dash, not underscore
[04:27] <sethk> johnt, that's not what I meant.  We need to look at the contents of the X log file, which is usually /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:27] <jman_> I really like linux as it gives me total control over my pc, i like the idea of open source and i like how robust it is, however whenver I can't do a simple thing like burn an audio cd that can be very frustrating grr
[04:27] <ciphernemo> indref: nvidia-glx-legacy
[04:27] <sethk> johnt, edit that file, and paste its contents into the paste web site, then give us the new url
[04:27] <ufo8mykat> does anyone have a few moments to talk about a usb wifi adapter?
[04:27] <indref> ciphernemo, I'm just saying what X said.
[04:28] <ellioTb> what up everyone
[04:29] <indref> ciphernemo, I've noticed a problem.
[04:29] <sethk> jman_, cd burning is actually one of the trickier things to figure out, when it doesn't work.
[04:29] <indref> ciphernemo, The normal glx drivers still have the "mark for complete removal" option.
[04:30] <ciphernemo> did you apply those changes to remove and --purge it?
[04:30] <indref> What is this --purge
[04:30] <indref> I chose it to be removed, and hit update
[04:30] <jman_> I am gonna try it in banshee, but ya thats one thing i don't like about linux you have to jump through hoops to get stuff working sometimes, and i can't help but wonder if it's really worth it?
[04:31] <indref> jman_, It's worth it.
[04:31] <sethk> jman_, that's an individual judgement.  to me, windows is terribly frustrating because when it doesn't work, there is nothing you can do.  in linux, it's easy to find out what is going on (if you know how)
[04:31] <Flannel> indref: purge is the equivalent of "complete removal"  it removes config files as well as binaries, etc
[04:31] <deyan> How can I get the changelog for a package in ubuntu?
[04:32] <jman_> ya i suppose
[04:32] <johnt> <sethk. that log has a million pages what do you want?
[04:32] <indref> Flannel, I did that twice, even got an error, saying I couldn't remove it because it's been removed.
[04:32] <indref> Flannel, But the option remains.
[04:32] <sethk> johns^, my log is 722 lines.
[04:32] <jrib> deyan: aptitude changelog package
[04:32] <sethk> johnt, my log is 722 lines.
[04:32] <jman_> I hate windows that why I moved to linux, maybe I should consider a mac
[04:32] <Flannel> indref: hmm, try reinstalling it, then remove it again.
[04:33] <indref> Flannel, In installing it, it removed 72MB of stuff. I don't know what. I don't want to go over that again.
[04:33] <indref> Flannel, The whole problem was that I never should of installed it.
[04:33] <indref> I am so screwed.
[04:33] <indref> How can I tell what has been removed?
[04:34] <Crescendo> What tool can I use to rebuild the headers on a damaged MPEG file?
[04:34] <indref> Hey, a history! This could help :D
[04:34] <ciphernemo> indref: try doing it directly in a terminal window instead of Synaptic Package Manager. Close that gui manager, open a terminal, sudo in front of commands, use #apt-get --help to see what purge does specifically
[04:34] <AngryElf> guys, when I change the color of the panel it doesn't change the backgrounds of everything on the panel -- is there a way around this?
[04:35] <indref> ciphernemo, Uhm. Why should I use the console when the Synaptic does the job fine.
[04:35] <indref> nstalled the following packages:
[04:35] <indref> linux-image-2.6.15-23-386 (2.6.15-23.39)
[04:35] <indref> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-386 (2.6.15.11-1)
[04:35] <indref> nvidia-glx-legacy (1.0.7174+2.6.15.11-5)
[04:35] <indref> nvidia-kernel-common (20051028+1)
[04:35] <indref> There that is what I did, that I wish I hadn't.
[04:36] <indref> In black and white.
[04:36] <jman_> indref: I find the apt-get works better and faster :-)
[04:36] <jman_> apt-get command*
[04:36] <indref> apt-get doesn't tell me what I can install, what I have installed and what I should install.
[04:36] <indref> It was an apt-get command that started this mess for me tonight.
[04:37] <kbee> indref: dpkg is used for those functions
[04:37] <ciphernemo> indref: #apt-get remove... will do this directly. The syn.pack.man does this as well, but relies on a config file which may or may not be incorrect
[04:37] <indref> If I had done it in Synaptic I would of known not to do it.
 I may have the wrng thing here   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2578
[04:37] <sethk> indref, there is no problem with using synaptic
[04:37] <ciphernemo> indref: apt-get is fine... it's your friend. The only one to worry about is dselect... never use that! :)
[04:37] <sethk> johnt, that's /boot/grub/menu.lst.  I want /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:37] <kitche> indref: synaptic just so you know is a frontend for apt-get
[04:37] <jman_> indref: check in this directory:   /var/cache/apt/archives/
[04:38] <sethk> you guys are confusing him.  using synaptic does NOT cause problems
[04:38] <indref> Why won't X see a package that I have definitely installed.
[04:38] <harrism> can someone please help.. I just installed the java sdk and would like to use the command javac. How can I add a path to use javac in terminal? It needs to point to /pathToJavaBin
[04:38] <indref> This is so Windows feeling: no matter what, brick wall.
[04:38] <sethk> harrism, temporarily,   export PATH=$PATH:/pathToJavaBin
[04:38] <indref> I always have this problem with drivers.
[04:38] <ciphernemo> sethk: if you scroll up, you'll see that indref's synaptic shows a package marked for removal that isn't getting removed... something is wrong with his
[04:38] <sethk> harrism, permanently, you put a line like that in your shell configuration file, typically .bashrc
[04:39] <sethk> ciphernemo, not because of synaptic
[04:39] <indref> Yeah. nvidia-glx is just plain not going away!
[04:39] <sethk> ciphernemo, the wrapper is not at fault because it displays accurate data
[04:39] <harrism> awesome thansk sethk, I did the first thing you mentioned but after closing the terminal it stopped working. So I need to add that line to bashrc and thats it?
 sorry to appear stupid I copy and pasted what you wrote the sido nano the command I guess that was wrong??
[04:39] <johnt> sudo
[04:39] <indref> You guys are really trying to help, thanks :D
[04:39] <sethk> harrism, dot bashrc   ($HOME/.bashrc)
[04:39] <ciphernemo> sethk: possible not, but if synpatic can't fix it itself, better to do it directly, then check and reload everything once done with apt-get
[04:39] <harrism> thanks
[04:40] <sethk> ciphernemo, the result with apt-get will be exactly the same
[04:40] <sethk> ciphernemo, to solve the problem, we have to figure out why it is failing
[04:40] <indref> You guys name the command, I'll do it.
[04:40] <ciphernemo> sethk: that is the next step... right now, indref needs to get nvidia drivers working
[04:40] <Coir> I'm trying to get Ubuntu Center setup, and the MySql setup. When trying 'mysql -u root password' I get an error stating that access is denied. Can anyone help me out?
[04:40] <harrism> last question, does it matter where I place it? can I place it at the top-most?
[04:40] <Coir> er
[04:40] <jbmigel> indref what card do you have?
[04:40] <Coir> 'mysql -u root -p password' even
[04:40] <sethk> ciphernemo, you are missing the point.  if he can't remove them with synaptic, he can't remove them with apt-get either.
[04:40] <kitche> !mysql
[04:40] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[04:41] <sethk> harrism, doesn't matter
[04:41] <harrism> thanks a ton
[04:41] <ellioTb> i have 26 packages that are being held back from install, is there a way to force them? (part of the dist-upgrade)
[04:41] <kitche> Coir: that's not what you want ignore ubotu you have to reset the mysql root password
[04:41] <ciphernemo> sethk: you're not helping his problem by arguing... just help him first isntead of sending msgs to me
[04:41] <sethk> ellioTb, why are they being held?
[04:41] <Crescendo> What tool can I use to rebuild the headers on a damaged MPEG file?
[04:41] <ellioTb> sethk, i don't know
[04:41] <Coir> kitche: How do I do that?
[04:41] <sethk> ciphernemo, just correct incorrect information.
[04:41] <ellioTb> looks like a bunch of python stuff
[04:41] <AlReece45> ellioTb: try using the synaptic software manager.
[04:41] <indref> jbmigel, Wait on..
[04:41] <nex_> if anyone had to choose between SuSE and Ubuntu, what would you choose?
[04:42] <mister_roboto> nex_: ubuntu
[04:42] <sethk> ellioTb, forcing it is not likely to help unless we understand why it isn't just being installed.
[04:42] <noiesmo> nex_, ubuntu
[04:42] <Coir> nex_: What do you think people in #ubuntu would say?
[04:42] <mjr> nex_, do you think you're going to get a meaningful answer here?
[04:42] <ardchoille> nex_: I can't believe you asked that in an Ubuntu channel
[04:42] <ellioTb> lemme get the error again
[04:42] <sethk> nex_, hint:  this is #ubuntu
[04:42] <noiesmo> nex_, dont like the rpm system prefer apt-get
[04:42] <jbmigel> nex_ subuntu
[04:42] <syke> hi. after apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade yesterday and then a reboot, my dhclient segfaults consistently
[04:42] <nex_> i know
[04:42] <ciphernemo> indref: join #indref_nv
[04:42] <nex_> but i want to know your reasons
[04:42] <indref> jbmigel, NVIDIA Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 Go] 
[04:42] <mister_roboto> nex_: i find it easier to keep a debian based sytsem up to date
[04:42] <syke> I'm having to use another computer to be on the IRC channel
[04:42] <kbee> nex_: i use both and like both are you new to  linux
[04:42] <nex_> i'm running ubuntu, but i want to know opinions
[04:42] <syke> anyone seen something like this?
[04:42] <Coir> Can anyone instruct me in resetting MySQL password?
[04:42] <kitche> Coir: mysql has a document on it just google reset MySQL root password and it should take you to the page in the first link sicne I don't have the link right at this momeny
[04:42] <kitche> momeny/moment
[04:42] <Coir> bleh :-P
[04:42] <indref> ciphernemo, Right on.
[04:42] <sethk> nex_, I've had installation problems with SuSE on various types of hardware.  google will show you lots of examples of that.
[04:42] <nex_> cause SuSE 10.1 is the only distro which is able to run on my sys at 64bit
[04:42] <ellioTb> sethk, it doesn't say why, they are just held back
[04:43] <mister_roboto> nex_: suse always broke when i went between major upgrades
[04:43] <nex_> ok
[04:43] <ardchoille> nex_: I like .deb based systems.. more familiar with things.
[04:43] <sethk> nex_, every distro has some, of course, but I've seen more with suse than with others.
[04:43] <sethk> nex_, which doesn't prove anything; I'm only one user.
[04:43] <syke> hi
[04:43] <jbmigel> indref that card is very old, I would bet that 3D is supported by xorg without any drivers
[04:43] <nex_> that's the kind of answers i was looking for
[04:43] <syke> is this #ubuntu-help?
[04:43] <syke> I sure could use some help
[04:43] <sethk> syke, yes.  ask a question.
[04:43] <mister_roboto> nex_: suse worked GREAT out of the box. it all just worked. however, it was the upgrades between versions that always messed me up
[04:43] <syke> hi. after apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade yesterday and then a reboot, my dhclient segfaults consistently
[04:43] <nex_> no, i was just looking for person opinions
[04:44] <mjr> jbmigel, indref, X.org doesn't support accelerated 3d on any nvidia out of the box without nvidia's non-free drivers
  I will come back to tis later I am dead beat right now
[04:44] <sethk> syke, that's odd.  any idea why?
[04:44] <sethk> johnt, k
[04:44] <mrpink57> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[04:44] <sethk> syke, do you know how to use a core file?
[04:44] <kbee> nex_: I have used suse  9.1, 9.2, 9.3  and 10  and almost no problems but you have to know linux in general to solve problems with every distro including ubuntu
[04:44] <ardchoille> nex_: Another reason.. huge repos
[04:45] <mrpink57> tried to download the key from the wiki and it seems to fail each time?
[04:45] <syke> sethk: it crashes under gdb also
[04:45] <Crescendo> What tool can I use to rebuild the headers on a damaged MPEG file?
[04:45] <kbee> nex_: suse was actually the very first distro to load on my laptop toshiba w/zero problems
[04:45] <sethk> syke, of course
[04:45] <mister_roboto> nex_: another thing is that yum is HORRIBLY slow. don't know why exactly
[04:45] <jman_> trying to burn in banshee lets see what happens
[04:45] <syke> the backtrace is usable; i.e., not trashed
[04:46] <syke> but I don't have symbols
[04:46] <sethk> syke, it had better.  do you know how to interpret the gdb stack trace?
[04:46] <nex_> yea, SuSE was also my first distro
[04:46] <syke> sethk: yes, I'm very familiar with gdb; but there's no symbols
[04:46] <kbee> Crescendo: sorry you are not getting an answer but i for sure cannot help you keep trying every few minutes
[04:46] <jbmigel> mjr thats brutal. I figured since my ati9600 works 3d now that all old crap like that would. why does nvidia not release some old stuff?
[04:46] <Pupeno> Hello.
[04:46] <nex_> the only reason why i would even consider going back to it, is because it just ran the installation without any problems on my AMD 64 X2
[04:46] <sethk> syke, if you can paste the stack trace onto the paste web site, we might get lucky and recognize something
[04:46] <Crescendo> Thanks, kbee.
[04:46] <Pupeno> Do you know about gamin (gam_server) eating lots of memory on Dapper ?
[04:46] <nex_> something which Fedora, and Ubuntu have failed on
[04:46] <sethk> nex_, there is no law that says you can only use one distro.  I use four.
[04:46] <indref> jbmigel, Sorry, I was in another channel.
[04:47] <kbee> nex_: are you having problems w/ubuntu and 64
[04:47] <nex_> i know, that's the great thing about open source
[04:47] <indref> jbmigel, I had the setup, but I ruined it, now I'm trying to get it back.
[04:47] <nex_> yea, it wouldn't install
[04:47] <nex_> it would crash half way down the boot process
[04:47] <nex_> so i had to install i386
[04:47] <nex_> did the same thing with Fedora
[04:47] <jbmigel> indref thats too bad man... sorry i cant help you mine just works
[04:47] <nex_> stopped right around the same area
[04:47] <mjr> jbmigel, ATI is reverse-engineered as well for anything over 9250; both of the manufacturers are being less than co-operative, though yeah, at least ATIs up to x850 are to some extent supported
[04:47] <kbee> nex_: interesting I dont have any 64 hardware yet
[04:47] <indref> jbmigel, Heh, glad to know it does for someone :D
[04:48] <nex_> but i just ran SuSE and it ran great
[04:48] <kitche> nex_: anyways x86_64 isn't that great in linux right now it works with SuSe only because they take time to compile and they patch the software alto
[04:48] <nex_> no problems during boot
[04:48] <sethk> indref, this might sound bizarre, but if you have a blank ide drive around, install ubuntu onto it (in this same machine), then copy the X configuration to your "real" disk.
[04:48] <nex_> i c
[04:48] <kbee> nex_: i think ununtu has to aggressive a release sched but that is them
[04:48] <nex_> i had no special reason expect the dual core fact, i don't think i'm getting all the juice from my cpu
[04:48] <indref> sethk, Sorry, this is a lappy.
[04:48] <nex_> except*
[04:49] <kitche> nex_: well install a smp kernel then you can get all the juice
[04:49] <sethk> nex_, I use the server install of ubuntu on 64 bit, without a problem.  possibly not as good for desktop
[04:49] <sethk> indref, that doesn't mean you can't do what I suggested
[04:49] <mister_roboto> does anyone run 2 nvdia cards in sli? does the driver handle it well?
[04:49] <nex_> kitche, can you point out the package i have to install
[04:49] <nex_> kitche, i went through this yesterday with jordan_ to no avail
[04:49] <indref> sethk, I don't know how to open it, plus i have no extra hardware.
[04:49] <nex_> on an AMD cpu is my main question
[04:49] <sethk> syke, you might try reinstalling the package that includes the dhclient program.
[04:49] <sethk> indref, ok, that's different.  :)
[04:50] <Luke1> Hey folks...  I was wondering if somebody could help me troubleshoot an Intel 3945 Wireless issue.
[04:50] <sethk> indref, you can buy an IDE to laptop IDE adapter for about $10.
[04:50] <w30> kitche, x86_64 Ubuntu works great on my HP Pavilion with an AND64 3200 and nvidia motherboard
[04:50] <syke> sethk: hm, ok.
[04:50] <syke> I'll set a static IP and try
[04:50] <Crescendo> What tool can I use to rebuild the headers on a damaged MPEG file?
[04:50] <theBishop> how do i add my Windows partition to fstab so that it appears as a special/removable drive?
[04:50] <syke> but I'm real curious why this started happening all of a sudden after those updates
[04:50] <nex_> maybe i should try burning the cd for x86_64 in linux
[04:50] <Coir> can anyone give me instructions on how to reset MySQL password? I've tried a couple of line tutorials that left me nowhere.
[04:50] <sethk> syke, hard to know without much more info.
[04:51] <kitche> w30: true but x86_64 in linux isn't that great right now in reality
[04:51] <sethk> syke, probably not worth the time to track it down.
[04:51] <Coir> online tutorials*
[04:51] <syke> sethk: pastebin is being slow
[04:51] <sethk> syke, k
[04:51] <syke> well, I paid for ubuntu support; I'd hate to spend one of my incidents on this
[04:51] <w30> kitche, how so?
[04:51] <syke> http://pastebin.com/801137
[04:51] <nex_> w30, i think the main problem i'm having is not the 64 part but the dual cpu
[04:51] <reter> what are the current repositories to update to dapper?
[04:51] <kbee> nex_: no that would probably not work at all have you put in a bug report
[04:51] <cj_> any one have time for a quick ???
[04:51] <nex_> ok
[04:51] <syke> sethk: http://pastebin.com/801137
[04:51] <reter> i tried the security repository and it told me it was not available
[04:52] <kitche> w40: some apps won't compile on x86_64 without patches
[04:52] <f00> hi
[04:52] <kbee> nex_: CAN YOU DISable the second cpu in bios and try install
[04:52] <Luke1> Looking for help troubleshooting a 3945 Wireless card.  I'm not sure if Ubuntu recognizes it or not.
[04:52] <nex_> kbee, neg
[04:52] <kitche> w30: not w40 but grub for instance is one that can't run on x86_64 without a patch
[04:52] <f00> I see ubuntu desktop ships with the FUSE kernel module installed by default. I wonder if the kernel is the same also for -desktop
[04:52] <f00> ?
[04:52] <kbee> luke1 hold on
[04:53] <f00> sorry, -server
[04:53] <Pupeno> Is there some way to disable gamin ?
[04:53] <syke> sethk: any ideas?
[04:53] <w30> kitche, I can't get flash and wmv9 and RealPlayer in 64 bit but regular Linux stuff works.
[04:53] <Crescendo> What tool can I use to rebuild the headers on a damaged MPEG file?
[04:53] <Luke1> kbee: np.  I'm just a noob who needs wireless so I can start learning this puppy.  I've edited the module file and installed a gnome network manager, but it doesn't seem to see my adaptor
[04:53] <stonarmusic> anyone know what this means? 'checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool'
[04:53] <nex_> kitche, do you know what the correct package is for SMP kernel?
[04:53] <reter> does anyone know how to get an updated version of repositories for updating from breezy to dapper?
[04:54] <kbee> Luke1: go to help.ubuntu.org and search for that card number may come up with info or a link I dont do much wireless
[04:54] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[04:54] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:54] <Coir> Can no one help me with resetting a MySQL password?
[04:54] <Dr_willis> !update
[04:54] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:54] <kitche> w30: yes some of the apps work fine but that's because they are either patched or they took time to compile them but I think ubuntu has backward compatiably with 32bit
[04:54] <mister_roboto> stonarmusic: that you have to install XML::Parser?  :)
[04:55] <noiesmo> Coir, this will reset root password mysql http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=20060712202032569&query=mysql
[04:55] <stonarmusic> mister_roboto - i couldnt find it with synaptic
[04:55] <mister_roboto> stonarmusic: look on CPAN
[04:55] <Luke1> kbee: yeah there's a link.  Unfortunently it's from May and based on what somebody else told my my Drivers are installed correctly.  And unfortunently I'm too much of a noob still to know how to do some of the stuff they're asking for like compiling from source.  Thanks though :)
[04:55] <syke> grr
[04:56] <newbie> guys i need help, i wanna install ubuntu on my dell but i can't, i cant see my boot up screen all i see in a mess letters, anyone know bout this?
[04:56] <stonarmusic> mister_roboto - what's CPAN? I'm trying to install Serpentine 0.7
[04:56] <kitche> nex_: if you open up synpatic and look for linux you shoudl see a package with smp at the end
[04:56] <mister_roboto> stonarmusic: it's THE repository for perl modules    http://search.cpan.org/~msergeant/XML-Parser-2.34/Parser.pm
[04:56] <nex_> kitche, does this also apply to AMD?
[04:57] <kitche> nex_: yep since it's a generic thing
[04:57] <kbee> Luke1: ah, yes compiling from source an interesting experience may as well wade in and try to learn as open source is all about that for sure
[04:57] <wickedpuppy> stonarmusic, for perl modules , pls ask in #perl
[04:57] <mister_roboto> stonarmusic: go to cpan.org and read up.
[04:57] <Luke1> kbee: yeah I intend too...  hense forcing myself to learn this.  The bad part is it's hard to get started when I'm running between two computers since my internet is screwed.  I'll figure it out though. :)
[04:57] <nex_> kitche, we're not talking about kernel headers?
[04:57] <kitche> nex_: no
[04:58] <stonarmusic> mister_roboto - so now I have to install that thing first?
[04:58] <newbie> guys i need help, i wanna install ubuntu on my dell but i can't, i cant see my boot up screen all i see in a mess letters, anyone know bout this? anyone can help me what this bugs all about?
[04:58] <mister_roboto> stonarmusic: yes
[04:58] <sethk> stonarmusic, cpan is more or less a package manager for Perl
[04:58] <stonarmusic> k
[04:58] <stonarmusic> thanks all
[04:58] <sethk> newbie, use the alternate cd and do the text mode install
[04:58] <Crescendo> What tool can I use to rebuild the headers on a damaged MPEG file?
[04:58] <kbee> Luke1: good for you it is not that difficult execpt in rare cases where you need the help of a developer
[04:58] <mister_roboto> stonarmusic: ask in #perl for any help installing perl modules
[04:58] <nex_> kitche, linux-image?
[04:59] <stonarmusic> mister_roboto - nah, i'll wait for the ubuntu team to update serpentine
[04:59] <mister_roboto> stonarmusic: that works too :)
[04:59] <stonarmusic> lol
[04:59] <Coir> noiesmo: thanks, it worked.
[04:59] <Luke1> kbee: yeah this shouldn't be too much trouble.  I'm just confused.  I thought I had to install drivers, but somebody I spoke with a few hours earlier had me run a command that showed that it recognizes the card just fine, so he thought it would work once I installed a wireless manager utility
[05:00] <noiesmo> Coir, np :)
[05:00] <Luke1> kbee: so now I'm not sure if I should try and go back and install drivers/firmware and all that jazz or if there's something more subtle going on
[05:00] <newbie> sethk, i cant even see a boot screen, what came out is a mess letters likes 01010as01012k&* sumting like that
[05:00] <kitche> nex_: let em find the exact name of the package
[05:00] <nex_> kitche, thanks
[05:00] <sethk> newbie, that's ok, because I suggested that you boot a different cd
[05:00] <nex_> kitche, there are a bunch
[05:00] <sethk> newbie, so it doesn't matter what you've see with the cd you aren't going to use.
[05:00] <spiral_shell> hi, is there anyway to egrep recursively *but omit certain directories in the search?
[05:01] <Luke1> kbee: new laptop too, so I'm not even 100% sure when the radio is on.  The light changes from Blue, to Green to torquise (spell?).   I'm assuming Blue= bluetooth, green= wifi, torquise = both
[05:01] <sethk> spiral_shell, you can, but not just with egrep
[05:01] <spiral_shell> sethk, how would i do it?
[05:01] <sethk> spiral_shell, you do something like:    find . -type f | grep -v directoryIDoNotWant | xargs grep ....
[05:01] <newbie> sethk, i can even go to my bios to make cd room boot up first, it would suddenly go on black screen and mess letters came out
[05:02] <sethk> newbie, if you can't boot the cd, you have a problem.
[05:02] <sethk> newbie, but that's not a linux problem, that's a machine BIOS problem.
[05:02] <nex_> newbie, or hardware
[05:02] <sethk> newbie, you wouldn't be able to install windows either, for example
[05:02] <mister_roboto> stonarmusic: that module might be in libxml-parser-perl package. not sure how to tell
[05:03] <newbie> i have already windows installed on my machine
[05:03] <sethk> nex_, right, could be.
[05:03] <sethk> newbie, so?
[05:03] <newbie> but when i restarted i cant login back,
[05:03] <sethk> newbie, I didn't say you did, or that you didn't.  I said you can't install anything, so it isn't specifcially a linux problem.
[05:03] <jman_> yay banshee worked in burning my audio cd :-D
[05:03] <sethk> newbie, something's wrong with your box.  just booting the linux cd can't break anything.
[05:03] <sethk> jman_, great.
[05:04] <kitche> nex_: install the linux-image package that says 686 in it
[05:04] <nex_> kitche, with SMP at the end?
[05:04] <newbie> anyone knows where can i ask help for this kind of problems?
[05:04] <mon^rch> question: why 686 over 386?
[05:04] <sethk> newbie, it sounds very specific to the particular dell model
[05:04] <lilbit> what is the chmod syntax for giving everyone all permissions
[05:04] <nex_> kitche, got it
[05:04] <kitche> nex_: umm think 686 has smp already built in it
[05:04] <lilbit> to a directory
[05:04] <nex_> kitche, install and reboot?
[05:05] <kitche> nex_: yeah it should work since it is a generic kernel
[05:05] <sethk> lilbit, chmod a+rwx
[05:05] <nex_> kitche, how would i know it worked?
[05:05] <newbie> sethk, if u where at my part what would you do first?
[05:05] <newbie> im really stucked
[05:05] <lilbit> sethk, thanks
[05:05] <nex_> newbie, do you have an extra copy of any windows OS?
[05:06] <sethk> newbie, I'd probably get hold of a diagnostic disk (floppy), and boot it.
[05:06] <newbie> nex_, yup i have
[05:06] <spiral_shell> sethk, thanks!  never used xargs before...
[05:06] <sethk> newbie, assuming you have a floppy drive in that machine
[05:06] <stonarmusic> mister_roboto - that was it! thanks again
[05:06] <kitche> nex_: well if you boot and it works then you know it worked :)
[05:06] <sethk> spiral_shell, very useful.
[05:06] <nex_> newbie, they are all bootable, so you can check to see if the problem is hardware, or cd
[05:06] <Tokenbad> there is no way to use msi files in ubuntu is there?
[05:06] <spiral_shell> not sure what it does but it seemed to work
[05:06] <sethk> nex_, he said he can't get into his bios to tell it to boot from CD (any cd)
[05:06] <nex_> kitche, but i mean to see if bot cores are running
[05:06] <newbie> yup i cant even go to bios
[05:06] <Megaqwerty> Does anyone know of a website that gives tutorials on how to get all the media types working in linux? (i.e. .wmv, .mov, .mp3, etc.)
[05:07] <mister_roboto> stonarmusic: great  :)    if you ever get into perl heavily, check out cpan ;)
[05:07] <sethk> spiral_shell, takes the list of names arriving on standard input and supplies them to the program (grep, in this case)
[05:07] <nex_> sethk, oh! the problem is bios, not cd
[05:07] <ardchoille> !restricted
[05:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:07] <nex_> newbie, exact reason why you can't get in the bios?
[05:07] <kitche> nex_: umm you have to cat something
[05:07] <sethk> nex_, I think that's what he said, yes.
[05:07] <Megaqwerty> thanks
[05:07] <ardchoille> !restricted > Megaqwerty
[05:07] <nex_> sethk, i thought he said he was able to place the CD rom as first boot
[05:07] <kitche> nex_: when you reboot do a cat /proc/cpuinfo and it should tell you if both cpus are running
[05:07] <sethk> nex_, unless I misunderstood, he said he can't.
[05:07] <nex_> kitche, ok
[05:08] <nex_> sethk, i don't know
[05:08] <kitche> nex_: that has to eb done in the terminal
[05:08] <spiral_shell> sethk, ok so normally you wouldn't have to use xargs if you can expect only one names arriving in standard input, but would use xargs if there were a collection?
[05:08] <nex_> newbie, does it tell you to press any keys?
[05:08] <newbie> nex_, i cant see a boot screen, all came out is a mess message. like 10a%66we9(hassdu7asas(), sumting like that
[05:08] <nex_> newbie, insert, delete, f1, f10?
[05:08] <newbie> nex_,still doesnt work
[05:08] <nex_> newbie, not even delete?
[05:09] <newbie> nex_, yup
[05:09] <sethk> spiral_shell, well, sort of.  xargs does two things, processes the list, and converts the list so that it appears to be on the command line.  so even if you have only one name, you still need xargs in that example.
[05:09] <kitche> nex_ newbie: it sounds like a bios problem I m not to famailar with dell's myself but that's what I bet it on or bad hardware someplace
[05:09] <newbie> nex_, but when i hit ctrl+alt+dele.... it would restart
[05:09] <nex_> newbie, it's a dell?
[05:09] <newbie> nex_, yup
[05:09] <Tokenbad> there is no way to use msi files in ubuntu is there?
[05:09] <nex_> newbie, and does it boot at all into any OS?
[05:10] <noiesmo> Tokenbad, check out wine
[05:10] <spanky_> Hey there guys. Does anyone know of an way to keep GUI processes running after logging out? Something similar to what screen does for cl programs.
[05:10] <kitche> Tokenbad not really unless you install the msi installer in wine and such
[05:10] <Tokenbad> noiesmo, wine will handle msi?
[05:10] <britt> gimp sucks the big one, what else is out there for image editing?
[05:10] <newbie> nex_, before i used windows, but when i restarted to install ubuntu,it stuck
[05:10] <highneko> What's a good program for searching for music?
[05:10] <spiral_shell> sethk, ok so xargs is used when the output from the command creating the input for it is expected to output an array?
[05:10] <sethk> spanky_, nohup will help you
[05:11] <noiesmo> Tokenbad, http://wiki.winehq.org/NativeMsi
[05:11] <nex_> newbie, it looks like the pc crapped out on you cause it found out you wanted to put linux on it
[05:11] <ardchoille> spanky_: I've been searching for a way to do that for about two years, I don't think you can
[05:11] <kitche> britt: gimp is good but is it because of the learning curve of it? I m just wondering by the way
[05:11] <spiral_shell> sethk verily this vishuagye of verbage veers most verbose
[05:11] <spiral_shell> sorry
[05:11] <sethk> spiral_shell, more generally, where a program is expecting    file1 file2 file3 .....  filen            and instead you want it to use the names arriving on the standard input.
[05:11] <ChocoCid> photoshop is actually better than gimp, sadly
[05:11] <britt> kitche: probably man i dunno, been a LONG day
[05:11] <ChocoCid> i think photoshop and excel are the only programs i've used that i would consider better than the F/OSS alternatives
[05:11] <newbie> nex_, lolx, i think soo.. its really a pain
[05:11] <sethk> ChocoCid, yes, in some ways, but I use gimp extensively and I can get it to do what I need.
[05:11] <nex_> newbie, try using a windows OS installation cd and rebooting
[05:12] <sethk> ChocoCid, there are many many others, unfortunately.
[05:12] <kitche> britt: there is a pain alternative that is good also it starts with paint
[05:12] <ChocoCid> sethk : sure, but i've not used them :P
[05:12] <nex_> newbie, i had my windows partition give me blue screens right before i installed linux, and during the download of the ISO
[05:12] <Megaqwerty> newbie: what is your problem?
[05:12] <newbie> nex_, i already did,still not
[05:12] <Crescendo> What tool can I use to rebuild the headers on a damaged MPEG file?
[05:12] <spiral_shell> ChochCid Outlook is also good
[05:12] <nex_> ok guys
[05:12] <nex_> brb
[05:12] <nex_> give me a few
[05:12] <Megaqwerty> I'm pretty good with windows
[05:12] <nex_> if i don't come back
[05:12] <sethk> Crescendo, I'm not ignoring you, I just don't know the answer.
[05:12] <nex_> it's cause kitche killed my penguin
[05:12] <nex_> hahaha
[05:12] <sethk> spiral_shell, outlook is a security nightmare, still.
[05:13] <wickedpuppy> spiral_shell, outlook ? spreader of all the viruses and spams ?
[05:13] <Crescendo> I know you're not ignoring me, sethk.  I'm waiting for someone who does.
[05:13] <Crescendo> ;_;
[05:13] <ardchoille> Crescendo: If you don't get any answers here, you might try http://ubuntuforums.org/ . It's a great place to get extra help with things.
[05:13] <ChocoCid> outlook is fine, but thunderbird exists, and i use webmail for pretty much everything
[05:13] <spiral_shell> sethk, yeah probably - but it is functional (including its amazing ability to spead disease)
[05:13] <ChocoCid> outlook is fine GUI-wise
[05:13] <Admiral_Chicago> Crescendo: dpkg- configure?
[05:13] <Megaqwerty> newbie?
[05:13] <Admiral_Chicago> man dpkg
[05:13] <SurfnKid> hey guys, if i have a package selected in synaptic and there is an update of a bunch of packages, will those new packages also get installed even if i have never installed them in synaptic? or only the ones that apply to my installation?
[05:14] <Quintin> I installed KDE
[05:14] <Quintin> and I hate it </3
[05:14] <Quintin> what is proper way to "undo" installing it?
[05:14] <sethk> Quintin, you don't have to uninstall it, just don't run it.
[05:14] <bruenig> SurfnKid, explain what you mean by there is an update of a bunch of packages
[05:14] <mon^rch> SurfnKid, no
[05:14] <bruenig> Quintin, how did you install it?
[05:14] <Quintin> sethk: ..................
[05:14] <harisund> Quintin, how did you install it in the first place? It might not be worth the trouble ...
[05:14] <wickedpuppy> Quintin, how did you install it ?
[05:14] <ciphernemo> Quintin: what sethk said... it won't affect your gnome
[05:14] <Quintin> harisund: synaptic
[05:14] <Admiral_Chicago> Quintin: sudo aptitude purge kubuntu-desktop
[05:14] <kbee> Gartner group has flatly stated do not run outlook or IE  in their current states
[05:14] <madewokherd> purge?
[05:14] <wickedpuppy> Quintin, then just .. untick what you ticked in synaptic ?
[05:14] <ardchoille> Quintin: Maybe this will help? http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[05:15] <Quintin> My blood sugar must be low, 'cause you people saying random true but totally obvious and useless things is about to make my head explode
[05:15] <mon^rch> SurfnKid, if I "think" I understand your question
[05:15] <Quintin> I WANT IT GONE.  that is all
[05:15] <harisund> Admiral_Chicago, that wouldn't help if it wasn't installed using aptitude in the first place. It will simply remove the kubuntu-desktop meta package
[05:15] <Ximoo> hi there
[05:15] <str47> yo
[05:15] <ardchoille> Quintin: You can go to File > History in Synaptic and see what has been installed and use that as a guide to uninstall things.
[05:15] <ciphernemo> Quintin: follow Admiral_Chicago's command
[05:15] <Quintin> Admiral_Chicago: mmm try that maybe.  I *do* want some things.. I can fix that later though
[05:15] <lg8> hi
[05:16] <wickedpuppy> Quintin, then just .. untick what you ticked in synaptic ? or sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[05:16] <Quintin> ardchoille: I will look at that as well.  I was thinking of using "undo" but that undo/redo is not kept after you close synaptic?
[05:16] <Ximoo> i am new to linux through ubuntu and I am looking for a good IDE with native support for ubuntu(debian), any suggestions?
[05:16] <bruenig> Quintin, use this command here http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome.php
[05:16] <kitche> Ximoo: depends on what language you want
[05:16] <Quintin> does kubuntu totally suck?
[05:16] <spanky_> Hey there guys. Does anyone know of an way to keep GUI processes running after logging out? Something similar to what screen does for cl programs.
[05:16] <Ximoo> C\C++
[05:16] <ardchoille> Quintin: Synaptic loses any "checked" packages when you close it, but the History is nice and is kept accorss launches
[05:17] <Quintin> 'cause the defaults when I installed KDE were senseless...
[05:17] <Admiral_Chicago> i was under the assumption that aptitude purge removed EVERYTHINg including config files, back ups, etc
[05:17] <mon^rch> Ximoo, try a SATA raid drive (if your mobo supports it)
[05:17] <Quintin> I would hope kubuntu is setup better than what I toyed with
[05:17] <Ximoo> oops
[05:17] <Ximoo> mon^rch, i mean an Integrated Development Environment
[05:17] <Admiral_Chicago> Quintin: i love KDE, to each his own and choice is why i like ubuntu so much
[05:18] <Ximoo> like eclipse
[05:18] <ChocoCid> well, that's linux in general
[05:18] <mon^rch> Ximoo, oh, nvrmnd
[05:18] <Ximoo> or MS VStudio
[05:18] <nex_> kitche that did not work
[05:18] <britt> hwo do I get xvid
[05:18] <Quintin> Admiral_Chicago: it's ASS SLOW on this machine I'm using here :(  also just too noisy
[05:18] <britt> is in included in w32codes
[05:18] <Ximoo> kitche any suggestions?
[05:18] <nex_> kitche, had to reboot in i386 again
[05:18] <nex_> kitche, should i try the k7 one?
[05:19] <nex_> kitche, since i am running an AMD cpu...
[05:19] <Quintin> I do think I liked both gnome and kde better the last time I used them ~2 yrs ago.  nautilus didn't suck so much and had nice interface and was superfast.  I esp like contrasting dark / light lines on background in file managers .. that is gone from them both though
[05:19] <Admiral_Chicago> Quintin: language and what do you mean loud?
[05:19] <Quintin> Admiral_Chicago: and something being so slow is not acceptable to me when I'm using decent hardware
[05:19] <kitche> nex_: yeah you can try the k7-smp one
[05:20] <kitche> Ximoo: yeah hang on a second
[05:20] <nex_> kitche, would i need the kernel as well?
[05:20] <Ximoo> ok, tyt
[05:20] <Quintin> Admiral_Chicago: language?  yea whatever.  the menus are toooo deep and too much trouble to navigate.
[05:20] <nex_> kitche, the complete kernel i mean, or just the linux-image?
[05:20] <Quintin> bruenig: that looks perfect, provided it doesn't totally destroy my system <3
[05:20] <ChocoCid> dark/light lines?
[05:20] <ChocoCid> just go...
[05:20] <ChocoCid> system-preferences-theme
[05:20] <marshall> hey peepoe
[05:20] <Admiral_Chicago> Quintin: i like the menu i can't find anything in gnome
[05:20] <ChocoCid> and pick "high contrast"
[05:20] <Quintin> yesh.  they're pretty and it makes text on things easier to read
[05:20] <bruenig> Quintin, it only uninstalls that stuff, if you have done anything since you installed kde, like add other kde apps and stuff, that would kind of mess with them
[05:21] <Quintin> Admiral_Chicago: hum
[05:21] <ChocoCid> just pick a different theme
[05:21] <sethk> Quintin, you don't like it, which is certainly your privilege.  I use it every day.
[05:21] <marshall> Admiral_Chicago, whats wrong?
[05:21] <ChocoCid> right now i've got transparent titlebars because i just installed Beryl and haven't screwed around with it
[05:21] <sethk> Quintin, as I said before, you don't have to run something just because it's installed
[05:21] <Quintin> bruenig: well I guess I will just trust apt.  main kde thing I want is k3b
[05:21] <mon^rch> ChocoCid, how did you get trans titlebars??
[05:21] <Quintin> sethk: thank you, again, for stating the obvious.  :)
[05:21] <nex_> brb
[05:22] <Quintin> I would like to get / small enough to fit on a DVDR
[05:22] <Admiral_Chicago> marshall: i don't have a problem. we were discussing gnome vs kde
[05:22] <marshall> Admiral_Chicago, o
[05:22] <kitche> nex_: you need the kernel the full
[05:22] <marshall> GNOME ftw
[05:22] <Admiral_Chicago> kde ftw
[05:22] <ChocoCid> mon^rch : built into beryl
[05:22] <marshall> although konqueror > nautilus in every way
[05:22] <Quintin> kde lite with BSD was pretty hot
[05:22] <Quintin> super fast!
[05:23] <ardchoille> Quintin: Have you looked at partimage? http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page
[05:23] <Admiral_Chicago> i only come in here to do support
[05:23] <mon^rch> ChocoCid, and where do I get it? I dont see it in synaptic...
[05:23] <ChocoCid> yeah, it's really new
[05:23] <ChocoCid> it's alpha software, i think
[05:23] <kitche> Ximoo: yuo don't want eclipse?
[05:23] <marshall> GNOME + COMPIZ/BERYL = SECKS
[05:23] <ChocoCid> the install instructions vary completely based on your video card
[05:23] <ChocoCid> it's insane :P
[05:23] <Quintin> ardchoille: I've used it
[05:24] <Ximoo> nope
[05:24] <ChocoCid> i screwed over my dapper install trying to set it up, but it "just worked" in edgy
[05:24] <ChocoCid> (well, if you define "just work" as including "pasting stuff into xorg.conf"
[05:24] <ChocoCid> )
[05:24] <mon^rch> ChocoCid, Im using edgy, got a link handy?
[05:24] <ChocoCid> what video card?
[05:24] <mon^rch> nv
[05:24] <ChocoCid> uh
[05:25] <ChocoCid> ubuntu-forums, edgy, there's a sticky
[05:25] <marshall> does anybody know anything about Galago?
[05:25] <mon^rch> ty
[05:25] <ChocoCid> both are for nvidia
[05:25] <Quintin> I am getting green flickers in my video playback. horizontal lines, like.   this seems to happen much more when there are more things open (web file browser, dvd burn etc) any ideas what to do ?
[05:25] <omac> Ximoo:  go into Synaptics and search for "c++".  You will find everything related to c++ which not only includes eclipse but anjuta and emacs and glade to name a few.
[05:25] <Admiral_Chicago> Quintin: what driver are you using?
[05:25] <Quintin> emacs??!?  :"(
[05:25] <YBH_1> how do I find packages for ubuntu? For example I need to install the Bwidget for tcl/tk i have truied the synaptic program and apt-get with nothing found.
[05:25] <Micksa> guys
[05:25] <Quintin> Admiral_Chicago: shrug.  whatever ubuntu wanted to install.... how would I check that?
[05:25] <kitche> Ximoo: yeah I woulda suggested eclipse but I went searching for you :)
[05:25] <Micksa> why doesn't ctrl-c work anymore?
[05:26] <Quintin> Micksa: in what context??
[05:26] <Admiral_Chicago> open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:26] <Micksa> in xterm
[05:26] <kitche> Micksa: it does
[05:26] <Micksa> like, it seems half the things that used to be breakable by ctrl-c aren't anymore
[05:26] <Quintin> Admiral_Chicago: DUH!  hah I'm a bit off atm
[05:26] <Ximoo> thanks kitche
[05:27] <kitche> Micksa: well ctrl-c is a kill switch so it shoulda kill the program
[05:27] <Quintin> Admiral_Chicago: it is using i810 driver
[05:27] <Admiral_Chicago> intel is that?
[05:27] <Quintin> yesh
[05:27] <nex_> kitche, got this error
[05:27] <kitche> nex_: paste is someplace
[05:27] <Admiral_Chicago> it's probably the driver, intel doesn't open source any of their hardware
[05:27] <nex_> kitche, "powernow-K8: MP systems not supported by PSB BIOS structure
[05:28] <Quintin> this is a little miniature computer like.  i810 sound and video
[05:28] <Quintin> Admiral_Chicago: any ideas what to toy with?
[05:28] <mon^rch> ChocoCid, beryl looks way too early in dev to fiddle around with. Know of anything else that will add transparancy effects to ubuntu?
[05:28] <Quintin> hardware cna't be opensource! <3
[05:28] <kitche> nex_: ok it seems to be your bios doesn't like linux
[05:28] <ChocoCid> compiz, i guess
[05:28] <nex_> kitche, that's it and x refuses to start, giving me an nvidia error
[05:28] <ChocoCid> but other than those, no clue
[05:28] <kitche> nex_: atleast for the MP part
[05:28] <nex_> kitche, god damn asus
[05:28] <nex_> kitche, MP?
[05:28] <SuperMiguel> i have a 100gb hard drive and i want to add together two unallocated partition how can i do that
[05:28] <Admiral_Chicago> Quintin: the drivers can be
[05:28] <Admiral_Chicago> SuperMiguel: gparted
[05:29] <kitche> nex_: yeah that's what dual core is sorta it acts like a Multiprocessor
[05:29] <SuperMiguel> im using it
[05:29] <Admiral_Chicago> kitche: no it's really not
[05:29] <SuperMiguel> but they appear as two separate
[05:29] <Micksa> godtvisken: 'war on peace' maybe
[05:29] <SurfnKid> bruenig, sorry i left suddenly, well for instance there's a few updates right, but not all of those HAVE to be installed since I dont have all of those checked in synaptic,
[05:29] <nex_> kitche, so i'm pretty much boned ;)
[05:29] <Micksa> or 'war on democracy'
[05:29] <nex_> lol
[05:29] <YBH_1> SuperMiguel, check out GPARTED live CD
[05:29] <Admiral_Chicago> nobody can really program in parallel so multi core processors are pretty useless
[05:29] <SuperMiguel> ok
[05:29] <YBH_1> if they are ext2/3/reiser FS
[05:29] <bruenig> updates to your system or to the stuff you are installing?
[05:29] <kitche> nex_: or you can install the amd64-generic
[05:30] <SuperMiguel> does ubuntu write perfectly to fat32 partitios?
[05:30] <SurfnKid> bruenig, like software updates for the system
[05:30] <Crescendo> What tool can I use to rebuild the headers on a damaged MPEG file?
[05:30] <Admiral_Chicago> SuperMiguel: sure
[05:30] <mon^rch> SuperMiguel, if the two parts are un allocated, why not delete them both and make one new one?
[05:30] <nex_> kitche, how would i go about doing that?
[05:30] <Admiral_Chicago> nothing is every written perfectly, but linux does it good enough
[05:30] <SuperMiguel> mon^rch: i did that but it just left it as unallocated
[05:30] <Admiral_Chicago> +99% so yes
[05:31] <bruenig> SurfnKid, I have kind of forgotten your situation, you say you don't want those?
[05:31] <ChocoCid> i'm not sure it's POSSIBLE to "write perfectly to fat 32" considering the fat32 issues :P
[05:31] <SurfnKid> Admiral_Chicago, and very simple !
[05:31] <ChocoCid> you'll frag anyway
[05:31] <mon^rch> SuperMiguel, sorry, I tried :-P
[05:31] <nex_> kitche, in synaptic? that's the name of the package?
[05:31] <SuperMiguel> :)
[05:31] <SuperMiguel> thank u
[05:31] <kitche> nex_: just search for amd64-generic
[05:31] <cl420> !wireless
[05:31] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:31] <Admiral_Chicago> SurfnKid: true enough
[05:31] <nex_> kitche, nothing
[05:32] <SuperMiguel> how long a har drive re size should take?
[05:32] <SurfnKid> bruenig, lets say i only have amarok and xchat on my machine, nothing else, but there's new updates that include, kernel image, ssh stuff and a list of apps that i have never installed,  will these get installed evven tho i only have amarok and xchat per say
[05:32] <kitche> nex_: hmm try *amd64-generic sicne there is a package for it
[05:32] <ChocoCid> nah, you can uncheck the other stuff
[05:32] <ucordes> when i try to run a 3d application in berryl i get: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0"  even when i have metacity selected as window manager. is there any way to work this out?
[05:32] <kbee> SuperMiguel: are the partitions contiguous
[05:32] <mon^rch> SuperMiguel, depends on how much data has to be moved around
[05:33] <Admiral_Chicago> ucordes: #ubuntu-xgl
[05:33] <nex_> kitche, nothing
[05:34] <kitche> nex_: ah do you have restricted enabled?
[05:34] <kitche> !restricted
[05:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:34] <nex_> kitche, how do i check that?
[05:34] <ChocoCid> yay beta software!
[05:34] <kitche> nex_: check your source.lst
[05:34] <Quintin> http://poker1.mine.nu/Screenshot.png
[05:35] <nex_> kitche, where is it located?
[05:35] <kishore> how to install oracle here in ubunut
[05:35] <kitche> !source-o-matic
[05:35] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:36] <Admiral_Chicago> !info oracle
[05:36] <ubotu> Package oracle does not exist in any distro I know
[05:36] <kitche> nex_: go there and it will let you generate or regenerate a sources.list
[05:36] <Admiral_Chicago> kishore: compile from source?
[05:36] <Admiral_Chicago> !build
[05:36] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:36] <nex_> ok
[05:36] <Crescendo> What tool can I use to rebuild the headers on a damaged MPEG file?
[05:36] <kishore> Admiral_Chicago, how... noob here:(
[05:37] <nex_> kitche, still nothing in synaptic
[05:37] <Admiral_Chicago> open up terminal
[05:37] <kishore> ok
[05:37] <mon^rch> kitche, thanks for the source0matic info.... I wa wondering `bout that
[05:37] <Admiral_Chicago> type sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:37] <keithhhh> Hey everyone....what torrent clients do you guys like??  In windows I use uTorrent and love it
[05:37] <Admiral_Chicago> is it on your desktop?
[05:37] <kbee> Crescendo: i think some is trying to tell you  !restricted
[05:37] <Admiral_Chicago> keith80403: ktorrent
[05:37] <kbee> !restricted
[05:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:37] <kitche> nex_: it's in /etc/apt/source.list is where your source.list is
[05:38] <marshall> does anybody know anything about galago?
[05:38] <Crescendo> kbee, nah, I did some data recovery on a drive, and got a good amount of readable MPEGs, and a lot of AVIs... but some MPEGs were 400 megs (about the right size) but were unreadable.  I know SOME of the frames are there, I think the headers are just damaged.
[05:39] <kishore> Admiral_Chicago, build essential is alredy the newest version
[05:39] <kishore> its saying like that
[05:39] <Admiral_Chicago> kishore: okay hold on a sec
[05:39] <kbee> Crescendo: and the !restricted pages dont help?
[05:39] <Crescendo> kbee, not at all.
[05:39] <kbee> Crescendo: ok
[05:40] <Admiral_Chicago> !repo > Crescendo
[05:40] <kitche> kishore: you have to download oracle from their website sicne they don't have source really
[05:40] <Borat> Yo guys, i have the latest podzilla2 installed with loader2.4, does anyone know how i can install floydzilla?
[05:40] <nex_> kitche, what am i looking for in the sources.list?
[05:40] <Admiral_Chicago> follow the one that says enable multiverse or something like that
[05:40] <Crescendo> This has nothing to do with packages...?
[05:40] <kitche> nex_: see if you have a restricted repo? in it
[05:40] <Crescendo> I'm trying to rebuild the MPEG headers on video files.
[05:40] <hangfire> keithhhh- I sent you a pm
[05:40] <kishore> kitche, any special about linux.. regarding oracle
[05:41] <tabman> the following command won't execute on Ubuntu, is $ a special character in Ubuntu ? cp /usr/lib/openoffice/sdk/classes/com/sun/star/lib/loader/Loader$CustomURLClassLoader.class /media/hda4/ooo/classes ?
[05:41] <keithhhh> hangfire: and I responded
[05:41] <nex_> kitche, with restriced at the end of the line?
[05:41] <kishore> or else same as of windows
[05:41] <nex_> kitche, yes a lot of them
[05:41] <dementt> Does anyone have experience with xgl & compiz?
[05:41] <highneko> !compiz
[05:41] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:41] <Admiral_Chicago> dementt: i use it. support in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:41] <kbee> tabman: no but it is special to the shell
[05:41] <dementt> thanks
[05:41] <hangfire> keithhh- thats weird, it didnt come through, can you try pm'ing me
[05:41] <kitche> nex_: ok they have # in front you have to remove one of those #
[05:41] <kbee> tabman: back slash it  \$
[05:41] <thejoe> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 6.06LTS. I already have partitions set. I manually edit the partitions during the installation to set up swap and root partitions. I set up the swap partition, but when I click next the size displays 0kb and I'm unable to install. What am I doing wrong?
[05:42] <tabman> kbee: cool let me try
[05:42] <nex_> kitche, they have two ##
[05:42] <mon^rch> is xgl installed in edgy already?
[05:42] <kitche> thejoe: hmm are you using the livecd?
[05:42] <kitche> nex_: ok remove both then
[05:42] <omac> tabman: or surround the filename with quotes: i.e.  "/usr/lib/...class"
[05:42] <thejoe> kitche: yes
[05:42] <keithhhh> hangfire: sorry but I cant seem to send private messages to you
[05:43] <hangfire> keithhh-k, thanks anyway
[05:43] <spanky_> Hey there guys. Does anyone know of an way to keep GUI processes running after logging out? Something similar to what screen does for cl programs.
[05:43] <tabman> kbee,omac Thanks
[05:43] <kitche> thejoe: maybe it didn't write the partition to the drive
[05:43] <nex_> kitche, ok
[05:43] <kbee> tabman: any time
[05:43] <keithhhh> hangfire: can you tell me the IRC code for sending private messages?
[05:43] <kitche> nex-: ok save the file and now try looking for the linux-amd65-generic package
[05:43] <FreddyM>  /msg user
[05:44] <nex_> ok
[05:44] <thejoe> kitche: should I set up the partitions in windows?
[05:44] <kbee> thejoe: dont remember 6.06 install but if swap already exists cant you just leave it as is
[05:44] <FreddyM> keithhhh: you get that?
[05:44] <nex_> kitche, still a negative, nothing under linux-amd, linux-amd64, or linux-amd64-generic
[05:44] <keithhhh> FreddyM: yes
[05:45] <kitche> nex_: did you refresh the package list
[05:45] <keithhhh> FreddyM: thanks
[05:45] <nex_> kitche, good question
[05:45] <thejoe> kbee: I set up the swap partition using the ubuntu partition manager during install. It seems ok until I click next and it displays 0kb for the partition
[05:45] <omac> spanky_:  nohup ./yourShellCommandHere :)  nohup mean don't hangup this process.
[05:45] <keithhhh> hangfire: http://torrent-finder.com/
[05:46] <spanky_> omac: but it's a gui app not a command line app
[05:46] <kbee> thejoe: is this a second install on another partition
[05:46] <hangfire> thx keithhh
[05:46] <omac> spanky_: nohup ./youguiapp &
[05:46] <nex_> kitche, it's stuck on download package 20-22
[05:46] <nex_> kitche, if i cancel
[05:47] <thejoe> kbee: Second install? I have windows already installed if that's what you mean.
[05:47] <Megaqwerty> is there an easy way to calculate the md5 sum of a file?
[05:47] <nex_> kitche, it gets stuck on http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/Release.gpg
[05:47] <kitche> nex_: well you can cancel the update but it might take a while to read the list
[05:47] <nex_> kitche, and two more
[05:47] <Megaqwerty> !md5
[05:47] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[05:48] <omac> spanky_: sorry...I misunderstood...yeah if you log out...forget it if it is a gui app.
[05:48] <kbee> thejoe: you r trying to install ubuntu and dual boot Win and Ubuntu correct
[05:48] <thejoe> kbee: correct
[05:48] <Megaqwerty> nm
[05:49] <kbee> thejoe: when you said you set up swap did you use parted to create swap and space for ubuntu
[05:49] <spanky_> exactly. It's a headless server that I want to be able to run apps on.
[05:50] <Crescendo> What tool can I use to rebuild the headers on a damaged MPEG file?
[05:50] <AngryElf> guys, I can gedit a file on a NFS share, but if i try chmoding or mv/cp it says Stale NFS handle.....any ideas?
[05:50] <thejoe> kbee: I partitioned the drive into three: windows, empty partition, and ubuntu partition. I then tried to create a swap partition from the ubuntu partition.
[05:50] <Healot> Crescendo, none for linux... iirc
[05:51] <kbee> thejoe: what size is the empty partition
[05:51] <mon^rch> Crescendo, http://www.dvdhelp.us/index.html?html/tutmpegheadercorrector.html~mainFrame
[05:52] <kbee> thejoe: approximate size
[05:52] <strike> hi, I am getting an error connecting ubuntu archives
[05:52] <strike> Err http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release.gpg
[05:52] <strike>   Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.138). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[05:52] <mon^rch> Crescendo, I think its a windows app
[05:52] <strike> this is the error I am getting
[05:52] <thejoe> kbee: 14.65gb, ubuntu: 8.74GB
[05:52] <kishore> how to download oracle for ubuntu
[05:52] <wickedpuppy> AngryElf, have you google for "stale nfs handle" ?
[05:52] <kishore> is it free ??
[05:52] <strike> i recently changed IP of my machine, could that be a problem?
[05:52] <wickedpuppy> kishore, oracle is not ... free ...
[05:52] <kitche> kishore: go download it from oracle's site sicne it's free but not free in a sense that you can modify the code
[05:53] <kishore> kitche, how.
[05:53] <kbee> thejoe: is your name registered so we can go to a private channel?
[05:53] <wickedpuppy> so free as in beer but not as in speech ? nice
[05:53] <thejoe> kbee: no
[05:53] <thejoe> kbee: how do I register it?
[05:53] <kitche> kishore: go to oracle's website and download oracle 10g
[05:54] <wickedpuppy> thejoe, /msg nickserv help register
[05:54] <kishore> ok then wot do modify
[05:54] <kitche> wickedpuppy: oracle still costs money but there is a version they have now that is free
[05:54] <JavaDeveloper> hello, how do I bookmark a channel in Xchat?
[05:54] <kbee> thejoe: first go to node you logged into  then  these two commands   /nick  thejoe   then  /msg nickserv register  <passwd>
[05:54] <kbee> thejoe:  <passwd> is a password of your choosing remember it
[05:55] <omac> spanky:  if you are building this app, by design you need to split up the tasks into different parts. 1)non-gui server always running like well-behaving service daemons. 2)the gui part that might automatically get started after log on, then makes a connection to the non-gui server.  i.e. proftpd(non-gui server) and gproftpd(gui ftp server configuration).
[05:55] <Samushka> i just installed Automatix's nVidia driver... i can't get my DUAL HEAD to work... i can't install nvidia-settings cause it UNINSTALLS my nvidia-glx for some reason... what do i do ?
[05:55] <wickedpuppy> kishore, btw have you checked out mysql and postgres ?
[05:55] <kitche> kiskishore: well there is a package for it but you have to get it from oracle
[05:55] <wickedpuppy> thanks for the info kitche
[05:55] <kbee> thejoe: be aware that   thejoe  may be registered and you will have to alter or take on a new identity
[05:55] <kishore> wickedpuppy, no how:(
[05:55] <Dr_willis> configure the TwinView Settings manually samiam
[05:55] <Dr_willis> oopos
[05:55] <Dr_willis> Samushka,  configure the TwinView Settings manually
[05:56] <thejoe> kbee: registered
[05:56] <wickedpuppy> kishore, may i ask are you getting oracle because its the only db you heard of ?
[05:56] <kbee> thejoe: ok stand by
[05:56] <AngryElf> wickedpuppy, i can cp the file fine, but if i sudo cp it gives me stale NFS......weird :/
[05:56] <kishore> wickedpuppy, no not like that
[05:56] <wickedpuppy> AngryElf, have you googled it ?
[05:56] <kbee> thejoe: we now have a pvt channel go there
[05:56] <kishore> i preffer linux
[05:56] <AngryElf> yes
[05:56] <wickedpuppy> kishore, what has linux got to do with oracle ?
[05:57] <kishore> i need so db
[05:57] <wickedpuppy> AngryElf, so you can cp ? seems ok to me
[05:57] <kishore> that may be anything
[05:57] <kbee> thejoe: sorry one more step     /msg  nickserv identify  <passwd>
[05:57] <kishore> wickedpuppy, which is prefferable
[05:57] <wickedpuppy> kishore, there are opensource dbs .. mysql and postgres .. pls check them in synaptic
[05:57] <AngryElf> wickedpuppy, if i sudo cp it errors
[05:57] <kitche> kishore: try postgres, since mysql is sorta going away from the opensource just a tad
[05:57] <kbee> thejoe: let me change names to my registered name be right back
[05:58] <thejoe> kbee: ok
[05:58] <kishore> kitche, ??
[05:58] <wickedpuppy> AngryElf, then no idea ... i usually do scp
[05:58] <wickedpuppy> kishore, try postgres 8 ...
[05:58] <kishore> ok.. can i do tat from synaptic .
[05:58] <Samushka> how can i install a nVidia control panel in ubuntu? (when i tru to install nvidia-settings, it wants to uninstall nvidia-glx)
[05:58] <wickedpuppy> kishore, by now you should know how to use synaptic ... right ?
[05:58] <kitche> kishore: postgres is better in my opinion it's more advance then mysql
[05:58] <kishore> wickedpuppy, ya
[05:59] <wickedpuppy> kishore, then why not search there ? and ask us if you can't find it ?
[05:59] <wickedpuppy> it takes less time for both of us
[05:59] <JavaDeveloper> wickedpuppy: hey how's it going?
[05:59] <wickedpuppy> JavaDeveloper, just had lunch .. very full :P
[05:59] <kishore> no not like that here i found many.. if i do tat
[05:59] <Vertana> Has anyone used Fedora Core or Solaris 10?
[05:59] <keithhhh> Hi, does anyone know why I cant write to my USB external drive.  Is there a terminal command I can use to give myself write access to the drive.
[05:59] <kishore> wickedpuppy, so i asked uu
[05:59] <JavaDeveloper> wickedpuppy: good for you...hey, how do you bookmark a channel in XChat?
[05:59] <wickedpuppy> kishore, if you type postgres and find a lot of db ... tell me
[06:00] <kitche> Vertana: Solaris 10 is advance
[06:00] <Crescendo> mon^rch, file won't download.  Website seems broken.
[06:00] <Vertana> It's advance?  What do you mean exactly?
[06:00] <omac> kishore: try hsqldb it's the one that openoffice uses natively.  If you like oodbms's, try metakit.
[06:00] <kitche> keithhhh: you can setup a umask in /etc/fstab
[06:00] <kitche> Vertana: that its' Unix and not like linux
[06:00] <wickedpuppy> JavaDeveloper, you can do this ... go to xchat -> server list .. then edit free node and last row can add channels to join when you join the network
[06:01] <Vertana> Ah ok :)
[06:01] <Vertana> That's what I was looking for actually ;)
[06:01] <keithhhh> kitche:  how do I unmask?  I never done that before
[06:01] <wickedpuppy> verbose, looking for unix ?
[06:01] <kitche> keithhhh: I never have done umasking my self
[06:01] <Vertana> I just migrated to Linux from Windows XP, I wanted to mess with the command line :P
[06:01] <Vertana> I am ^.^
[06:01] <kishore> wickedpuppy, acidlab-pgsql,aolserver4,........
[06:01] <levander> Is all there supposed to be to doing automatic authentication for ssh login that you generate the public key, and put it in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys, then put the generated private key where your ssh client can find it? I did that with puttygen and putty on an XP box to connect to my Ubuntu box, it doesn't work.  The only error message I can find is where the putty terminal says, "Server refused our key."
[06:01] <wickedpuppy> Vertana, may i ask you leave it till you know more ? or it will make you lose hair
[06:02] <wickedpuppy> kishore, the name is postgres ...
[06:02] <Vertana> I enjoy the challenge ^^
[06:02] <wickedpuppy> pls search for postgres
[06:02] <JavaDeveloper> wickedpuppy: thanks
[06:02] <wickedpuppy> verbose, try openbsd
[06:02] <Vertana> besides it's not going on the main computer (My ubuntu computer)
[06:02] <JavaDeveloper> wickedpuppy: what IRC client you recommend?
[06:02] <Vertana> It's just going on an old laptop.
[06:02] <wickedpuppy> JavaDeveloper, xchat
[06:02] <strike> can anyone got some Idea why this might happen? "Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.138). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[06:02] <strike> "
[06:02] <kishore> wickedpuppy, ya
[06:02] <Vertana> I downloaded OpenBSD and FreeBSD earlier today./
[06:02] <wickedpuppy> Vertana, openbsd is the only one i have not installed ...
[06:02] <JavaDeveloper> wickedpuppy: lol...alright, thanks
[06:02] <Vertana> Which one should I try first?
[06:02] <levander> Is all there supposed to be to doing automatic authentication for ssh login that you generate the public key, and put it in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys, then put the generated private key where your ssh client can find it? I did that with puttygen and putty on an XP box to connect to my Ubuntu box, it doesn't work.  The only error message I can find is where the putty terminal says, "Server refused our key."
[06:02] <AeonPax> does mIRC works with WINE installed in ubuntu?
[06:03] <wickedpuppy> Vertana, you want challege try openbsd
[06:03] <levander> damn, sorry, meant to paste that another channel, already asked that in here
[06:03] <wickedpuppy> AeonPax, i seen it yes
[06:03] <Vertana> OpenBSD it is :)
[06:03] <Vertana> If and when I feel comfortable with that, I suppose I'll move onto Solaris ^^
[06:03] <AeonPax> ah.. good then.. :D
[06:03] <ricky> hi everyone
[06:03] <Healot> Solaris? the worse UNIX operating system ever fufufu
[06:03] <Vertana> Hello ^^
[06:03] <wickedpuppy> kishore, pls do this .. apt-cache search postgres and pls paste the output on the pastebin
[06:04] <Healot> !find postgresql
[06:04] <ubotu> Found: postgresql-client-common, postgresql-common, cl-sql-postgresql, cl-sql-postgresql-socket, gambas-gb-db-postgresql (and 50 others)
[06:04] <AeonPax> what are the options in NERO 7 to write ubuntu 6.06 .iso?
[06:05] <wickedpuppy> AeonPax, just normal iso ?
[06:05] <ricky> cd image
[06:05] <wickedpuppy> i don't remember burning different from any other iso ... including the games :P
[06:05] <ricky> aeonpax burn a cd image
[06:05] <mon^rch> I was having font inconsistency problems when both KDE and Gnome are installed before... does anyone know if this is still an issue (before I install kubuntu-desktop) ???
[06:06] <AeonPax> wickedpuppy: i think bootable iso of ubuntu.. i'm currently downloading the ubuntu .iso file and i'll write it on a CD later so i could install
[06:06] <Vertana> If all you are doing is burning an iso to a cd the nautilus-burn prepackaged with Ubuntu serves the purpose just fine.
[06:06] <TJ_> Does anyone know if there's been a work around for the PPC version to utilize the Airport extreme wireless card yet?
[06:06] <wickedpuppy> AeonPax, write to cd ? no .. its burn the image
[06:06] <omac> AeonPax:  if the iso is less than 650MB, it's probably a CD.  If it's closer to 4.4GB, it's probably a dvd image.
[06:06] <wickedpuppy> Vertana, he is on windows ...
[06:06] <kishore> wickedpuppy, http://pastebin.ca/192701
[06:06] <Vertana> Ah, I missed that message :P
[06:06] <AeonPax> so.. i'll just simple burn the image.. no more additional procedures?
[06:06] <AeonPax> *simply
[06:07] <Vertana> Yes.
[06:07] <foo> Hm, ok, I installed gnome-cups-manager ... and I am trying to add the network printer, but I don't see the hp officejet driver. I installed hpoj ...restarted cups, and restarted the cups manager ... still don't see the drive. What do I need to install? I searched for officejet .. no go. This works on ubuntu desktop, so I know I'm just missing something
[06:07] <wickedpuppy> kishore, can you see line 246 ?
[06:07] <AeonPax> ah.. ok, thanks
[06:07] <flowrobot> if i want to instally edgy without having to boot into live desktop first, should i download the edgy-alternate torrent, or the edgy-install one?
[06:07] <kishore> wickedpuppy, ya
[06:07] <hunterofhell> i have a question how install ubuntu from a lan network??????????
[06:07] <flaco> hi... someone use vmware ??
[06:07] <omac> AeonPax: Yes it is true in nautilus, where you see the .iso file do select it and right-mouse-click it, and you will see "write to DISC...". :) and you're there.
[06:08] <wickedpuppy> kishore, btw you pasted to me the first two lines.. but the name start with P .. so why didn't ya go down to P section ? i am curious ..
[06:09] <hunterofhell> i have a question how install ubuntu from a lan network??????????
[06:09] <wickedpuppy> anyway this is what you want :P postgresql-8.1 - object-relational SQL database, version 8.1 server
[06:10] <flowrobot> or - what is difference between live cd, install cd, alternate cd
[06:10] <Flannel> !tell hunterofhell about install
[06:10] <Flannel> flowrobot: which version of ubuntu are you talking about?
[06:10] <flowrobot> edgy, sorry
[06:10] <Flannel> flowrobot: aren't there only alternate and Desktop?
[06:10] <wickedpuppy> live and install should be combined ...
[06:10] <wickedpuppy> no ?
[06:10] <flowrobot> looking at the torrents, there is an "install" cd, too http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[06:11] <Vertana> FlowRobot
[06:11] <kishore> hey i am doing postgresql-8.1
[06:11] <Flannel> wickedpuppy: I don't know, in dapper yes.  Might have been further divvied (for people who really just want to try, not want to install at all, or something)
[06:11] <Deramin> Could someone famillier with Anjuta for Ubuntu tell me if it's possible to convert it to a Jav IDE / help me get that set up if possible?
[06:11] <Vertana> Ever since ubuntu 6.06 Dapper the Live CD and Install CD have been combined.
[06:11] <kishore> wickedpuppy, sudo apt-get install postgresql-8.1
[06:11] <AeonPax> i'm asking for opinions which you think is better, KDE or GNOME?
[06:11] <wickedpuppy> kishore, yup correct
[06:11] <ricky> gnome
[06:11] <Vertana> I, personally, like Gnome.
[06:11] <Flannel> AeonPax: #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:11] <Deramin> AeonPax: I like Gnome. It's a personal preference, though
[06:11] <flowrobot> i'm trying to install on low-end system, which can't really handle booting into live cd ... want to do it the badger way
[06:11] <wickedpuppy> kishore, btw i strongly recommend looking into both mysql and postgres ... both can be found via google .. oracle is not the only DB ..
[06:12] <Vertana> In that case, install an old version
[06:12] <Vertana> And just download the updates.
[06:12] <flowrobot> i've got four machines to install to, though ...
[06:12] <kishore> wickedpuppy, ok.. but my company uses  oracle tats wot i am doing
[06:12] <Flannel> flowrobot: there's only alternate and desktop
[06:12] <Vertana> I don't believe there is an "install only" cd for edgy.
[06:12] <Phlosten> flowrobot: download the alternate version
[06:12] <Flannel> flowrobot: you want the alternate, which is a textonly installer
[06:12] <flowrobot> what's the alternate version?
[06:12] <flowrobot> Flannel: brilliant
[06:12] <wickedpuppy> kishore, why not say so .. then why not get from the company ?? surely they paid for their employees ...
[06:12] <Flannel> flowrobot: Alternate ISO is the old textmode installer, you can also install without a GUI (type server at the initial prompt)
[06:12] <wickedpuppy> kishore, then get oracle ...
[06:13] <flowrobot> Flannel: cool, that's exactly what i want ;)
[06:13] <Vertana> ^^
[06:13] <kishore> wickedpuppy, yet to join
[06:13] <Flannel> flowrobot: I figured ;)
[06:14] <wickedpuppy> kishore, why not wait ? oracle last time i heard is a pain in the butt to install ... they said you need the cert to install one properly .. LOL
[06:14] <flowrobot> Flannel: the torrents don't say what version of edgy - i guess they'd be the beta version, though?
[06:14] <wickedpuppy> never tried before ...
[06:14] <Vertana> Yes.
[06:14] <Flannel> flowrobot: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ try that.  Whatever page youre looking at must not be... as informative
[06:14] <Vertana> There is no other version of Edgy out at the moment =P
[06:14] <kishore> ok
[06:14] <flowrobot> ok thanx
[06:14] <electroco> Hello
[06:14] <stonarmusic> hi
[06:15] <electroco> is there a live cd based on ubuntu that will work with wireless straight on?
[06:15] <wickedpuppy> electroco, depends on which brand of wireless card and so on and on
[06:15] <Flannel> electroco: that depends on your wireless.  The liveCD is the 'desktop' iso
[06:15] <Vertana> *sigh* Why can't other distro's catch up and use live/install cd's instead of making me download 5-6 .iso's?
[06:15] <electroco> I have built in wirless
[06:16] <wickedpuppy> Vertana, which distro ask you to get 5-6 ?
[06:16] <wickedpuppy> i am curious
[06:16] <Vertana> Solaris did.
[06:16] <Vertana> Fedora Core 5.
[06:16] <Vertana> Open/FreeBSD were 2 CD's (but the second one were extra programs)
[06:16] <wickedpuppy> Vertana, solaris is unix .. not linux ... fc 5 has 5 cd ? last time i checked its 4 ..
[06:16] <electroco> ok so
[06:17] <Vertana> 5 Cd's + a rescue CD for FC5.
[06:17] <wickedpuppy> Vertana, there is no need for rescue :P
[06:17] <Vertana> Of course the rescue CD is unnecessary =p
[06:17] <Vertana> =p
[06:17] <wickedpuppy> fc5 has dvd .. isn't it ?
[06:17] <Vertana> Yeah, but I don't have a DVD Burner :(
[06:17] <Supermiguel> skoger
[06:18] <electroco> im looking up
[06:18] <Supermiguel> esto es puro ingles
[06:18] <electroco> i was trying to recover some password hashes todoay
[06:18] <wickedpuppy> Vertana, get one .. its cheap
[06:18] <Supermiguel> para la sala de espanol
[06:18] <Flannel> !es
[06:18] <Supermiguel> es
[06:18] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:18] <Supermiguel> !es
[06:18] <electroco> kept getting a weird error from hive
[06:18] <Vertana> necesita ayuda?
[06:18] <skoger> sik
[06:18] <wickedpuppy> well i gotta go to fetch my girl ...
[06:18] <Vertana> Nice meeting you, talk to you later wicked ^^
[06:19] <|mephisto|> Hi, I'm having a problem building .deb packages from an ATI driver (8.24.8)  and was wondering if somebody could help
[06:19] <Supermiguel> how can i unistall gnome and install kgd
[06:19] <w30> 
[06:19] <Vertana> Supermiguel.
[06:19] <Vertana> www.ubuntuguide.org
[06:19] <Vertana> There are instructions on how to do so there.
[06:20] <Vertana> Mephisto... I'm an NVIDIA guy, but shoot.
[06:20] <|mephisto|> dh_install: command returned error code 256
[06:20] <|mephisto|> err
[06:20] <|mephisto|> cp: cannot stat `/usr/src/fglrx-install/x690_64a/*': No such file or directory
[06:21] <kate> how can i control when the fan in my compie comes on?
[06:21] <kate> it constantly runs
[06:21] <|mephisto|> is the first error I get after "sudo ./ati-8.28blah blah.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper
[06:21] <cl420> how do i edit my dhcp settings?
[06:21] <Vertana> Mephisto
[06:21] <Vertana> http://root.cern.ch/root/roottalk/roottalk05/1274.html
[06:21] <jtholmes> Supermiguel: just leave gnome alone  i  believe the  command  is  apt-get install kde-desktop
[06:21] <Vertana> Try reading that and see if it helps.
[06:21] <kate> can i control my fans?
[06:21] <|mephisto|> cp: cannot stat `/fglrx-install/arch/x86_64/*': No such file or directory   is the second.
[06:22] <mikewinsdesk> how do i check with ubuntu server edition if a port is actually open for the comptuer, the reason im asking is im using webmin and i think i have it configued correctly but i can not get it to serve up any web pages
[06:22] <|mephisto|> checking it out.
[06:22] <stonarmusic> kate - shich fan?
[06:22] <berent> cl420 : i think there is a file dhcpd.conf
[06:22] <stonarmusic> kate - errr, which fan
[06:23] <kate> stonarmusic, cpu fan
[06:23] <electroco> ok i GOT THE
[06:23] <Phlosten> mikewinsdesk: afaik, all ports will be disabled by default, until you open them up
[06:23] <electroco> wireless network card info
[06:23] <kate> stonarmusic,  any idea?
[06:24] <stonarmusic> kate - laptop or desktop?
[06:24] <electroco> I need a live distro that will run wireless from the box  with a Gemtek/Broadcom WMIB-158G
[06:24] <kate> stonarmusic,  desktop
[06:24] <kate> stonarmusic,  stock fan i believe
[06:24] <romans5n1> can I assume that if ubuntu's network manager knows the SSID for my wireless network here, that at least everything's good on the hardware side?
[06:24] <cl420> berent: got a general location for it or should i just search?
[06:24] <stonarmusic> kate - i'm not sure how to control that
[06:24] <mikewinsdesk> phlosten, right all ports would be disabled, but they should now be open that i installed apache
[06:24] <AeonPax> the root password was not asked during install on my ubuntu 5.10, how could i access the root after install?
[06:24] <Supermiguel> what is the big diference between gnome and kdm?
[06:25] <cl420> AeonPax go into user controls and set one
[06:25] <britt> does anybody have an idea to make vxid more playable on totem?
[06:25] <kate> stonarmusic,  does yours run all the time?
[06:25] <Vertana> Aeon: Go to System > Users and Groups
[06:25] <britt> or could anybody suggest a way to make VLC work with xvid
[06:25] <electroco> I need a live distro that will run wireless from the box  with a Gemtek/Broadcom WMIB-158G can anyone help me?
[06:25] <|mephisto|> vertana:  you're referring to where he discusses Xrootd?
[06:25] <stonarmusic> kate - yeah, i thnks os, i think it's supposed to. what kind of cpu do you have?
[06:25] <Supermiguel> electroco: try suse
[06:26] <kate> stonarmusic,  amd 2000+ i think
[06:26] <Phlosten> !sudo
[06:26] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:26] <kate> got comuter in garagesale
[06:26] <romans5n1> it tells me that my wireless is active, I entered my WAP pass, changed the gateway to the wireless, and everything looks good... except, I can't pull anything through
[06:26] <kate> havent figured everything out yet
[06:26] <mikewinsdesk> http://pastebin.ca/192710 here is a link to the apache2.conf if you want to check over my setup for the virtual hosts and the server itself
[06:26] <kate> !sudo
[06:26] <stonarmusic> kate - sounds like it's failing and are hearing it when it whines
[06:26] <Supermiguel> romans5n1: descativate the wep or wap
[06:26] <AeonPax> okie
[06:26] <kate> stonarmusic, what?
[06:26] <ncpitoni> does the ubuntu kernel support smbfs?
[06:26] <Supermiguel> and then test it
[06:26] <hunterofhell> !quota
[06:26] <ubotu> quota: implementation of the disk quota system. In component main, is optional. Version 3.13-4 (dapper), package size 390 kB, installed size 1168 kB
[06:26] <|mephisto|> vertana: that is my error.. finishes with dhinstall returned error 256
[06:27] <kate> stonarmusic, it just whirrs all the time
[06:27] <ncpitoni> does the ubuntu kernel support the smbfs file system?
[06:27] <Supermiguel> ncpitoni: yep
[06:27] <kate> howcome when i load a page in firefox,  it tries to download the page?
[06:27] <mon^rch> britt, try using vlc for watching video/movies (it's just great)
[06:27] <britt> mon^rch: it wont play xvid though
[06:27] <Supermiguel> kate:  it will always try to pull something out
[06:27] <das-q> I accidently wiped my /etc/hosts, is there a way to reconstruct it?
[06:27] <stonarmusic> kate - my power supply fan has been going out for about two years, and mostly it's kinda quitly whirring, but every now and again it really screeches foe several minutes then stops
[06:28] <britt> acts like i didnt even select anything.
[06:28] <kate> supermiguel, what? not always, about half the time it will download, index.php
[06:28] <AeonPax> i had problems with xvid too
[06:28] <kate> stonarmusic, lol that sucks
[06:28] <AeonPax> i cant play xvid encoded .AVIs
[06:29] <Supermiguel> kate im sorry i didnt read your problem but anyways firefox will always try to open something
[06:29] <stonarmusic> kate -yeah, it actually stopped when i quit smoking
[06:29] <ncpitoni> Supermiguel: I have installed samba on this machine.  When I type smbmount, it says "unknown command" am I missing something?
[06:29] <mon^rch> britt do you have all the right codecs?
[06:29] <indref> Where did he go? :<
[06:29] <britt> the movie will play in totem, so I assume I do have the correct plugins
[06:29] <ciphernemo> indref:   #indref_nv
[06:30] <Supermiguel> ncpitoni: how did you get samba?
[06:30] <britt> it just loses sync
[06:30] <kate> supermiguel, but why does it try to download it?
[06:30] <mon^rch> hmm, I would think if it plays in one proggie.....
[06:30] <stonarmusic> kate - you're on AFN? I went to school there.
[06:30] <kate> supermiguel, like the download box pops up and asks what i want to do with it
[06:30] <Supermiguel> kate download the page?
[06:30] <kate> supermiguel yes
[06:31] <Supermiguel> ncpitoni: sudo apt-get install samba smbfs
[06:31] <kate> stonarmusic, in ashland?
[06:31] <|mephisto|> vertana, did you see that?
[06:31] <stonarmusic> kate - yeah
[06:32] <stonarmusic> kate
[06:32] <kate> stonarmusic, sou or ahs?
[06:32] <Supermiguel> Kate thats the functions of web browsers allways try to open pages
[06:32] <stonarmusic> kate- yeah, sorry SOU, it was SOSC then though
[06:32] <kate> supermiguel, but not download them
[06:32] <kate> supermiguel, it pops up with a window like when you try to download a file
[06:32] <thejoe> I have Ubuntu 6.06LTS. Do I need to install any patch for Core2Duo?
[06:33] <kate> stonarmusic, im freshman at ahs
[06:33] <Supermiguel> kate did you install any plugins?
[06:33] <stonarmusic> kate - this isnt the place to chat about this kinda stuf, the mods are going to yell at us
[06:33] <stonarmusic> haha
[06:33] <Guidan> how do i split my hd in 2 so i can install ubtuno..
[06:33] <manmadha> he recently i have changed the permissions&owner ship of cdrom.I have changed it later.My problem is i am facing some difficulty while writing&errasing;The writing is not permitting.I gave write permissions also but no use can any one help me?
[06:33] <Hypereia> Hello, I'm having problems with my monitor being detected(I believe). I just recently upgraded my video card, and changed the connection type(Installed Ubuntu before on x300 using VGA connection). When I put the new card in(ATI x800, connected to monitor VIA DVI), linux would boot up the modules at the splash screen, but monitor would go into standby mode right after.
[06:33] <kate> supermiguel, nope
[06:34] <ncpitoni> Supermiguel : thank you
[06:34] <kate> stonarmusic, i know im suprised weve gotten this for in the convo lol
[06:34] <Supermiguel> Hypereia: try to install it as acpi=off mode
[06:34] <Hypereia> I did a search for how to re-configure, and found the right command, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", but after running through the process I get the error "no displays detected", or something.
[06:34] <ltr20> Hello, when i type 'ktrorrent' i get "Segmentation fault"
[06:34] <manmadha> The out put of the cdrom is (Unknown filesystem&unknown user)
[06:34] <britt> anybody else have a suggestion as to why my xvid file wont play?
[06:34] <Supermiguel> ncpitoni: did it work?
[06:34] <Guidan> is there a link teaches me how to split hd in 2 so i can have 2 platform (windows and nix)
[06:34] <manmadha> any one help me?
[06:35] <britt> it plays in totem, but not VLC
[06:35] <Werdna> !dualboot
[06:35] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[06:35] <Supermiguel> !dualboot
[06:35] <Werdna> Guidan, see what ubotu said.
[06:35] <Guidan> thanks
[06:35] <skoger> britt: install vlc is good
[06:35] <skoger> :O
[06:35] <kate> what do you mean when you do !dualboot?
[06:36] <britt> skoger: i have it installed already, the movie wont play with vlc
[06:36] <kate> !dualboot
[06:36] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[06:36] <Hypereia> Supermiguel: Ubuntu is already installed.  I installed it earlier, and it was running on my ATI x300SE via VGA connection.
[06:36] <Vertana> (I use Mplayer)
[06:36] <manmadha> he recently i have changed the permissions&owner ship of cdrom.I have changed it later.My problem is i am facing some difficulty while writing&errasing;The writing is not permitting.I gave write permissions also but no use can any one help me?
[06:36] <manmadha> The out put of the cdrom is (Unknown filesystem&unknown user)
[06:36] <manmadha> any one help me?
[06:36] <Werdna> kate, ubotu gives a full explanation
[06:36] <|mephisto|> vertana did you see that?
[06:36] <britt> Mplayer comitted suicide on me
[06:36] <Hypereia> The problem occured when I put a new video card in, and am using DVI insted of VGA, I believe.
[06:36] <Vertana> lol.
[06:36] <kate> werdna a full exlination of what? im just wonder why he did !dualboot, ive seen him do ! sudo before too
[06:37] <Supermiguel> Guidan: install windows first and when the blue screen ask ylou to make partitions split the hard drive in two and leave the other part of the HD with out any partition then put the ubuntu cd and click install wen it ask you where do you want to put it say use the bigger free space =)
[06:37] <Hypereia> Right now I'm dual booting Ubunto x64, and winXP.
[06:37] <Hypereia> Ubuntu*
[06:37] <skoger> Britt: but u play in totem, why more reproduction?
[06:37] <Werdna> kate, !dualboot gives a fulll explanation of dual-booting
[06:37] <kate> !dualboot
[06:37] <Werdna> kate, !sudo gives a full explanation of sudo
[06:37] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[06:37] <Werdna> et cetera
[06:37] <kate> !sudo
[06:37] <Werdna> see?
[06:37] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:37] <britt> skoger: audio and video lose sync
[06:37] <jordan> kate, There is a bot that listens for words begginning with ! and gives information about that word if it knows.
[06:38] <kate> oohh
[06:38] <jordan> !ubotu
[06:38] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[06:38] <kate> i didnt realize it was a bot
[06:38] <kate> lol
[06:38] <Vertana> !sudo
[06:38] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:38] <Werdna> :-)
[06:38] <kate> !thanks
[06:38] <ubotu> Thanks for the help!
[06:38] <Werdna> note "bot"
[06:38] <Vertana> Lol.
[06:38] <kate> hehe
[06:38] <Hypereia> Sudo = Superuser Do, I assume
[06:38] <Vertana> Yes.
[06:38] <kate> I dont know lets find out
[06:38] <kate> !sudo
[06:38] <Vertana> Lmao
[06:38] <kate> hmm didnt work
[06:38] <Vertana> !sudo
[06:38] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:38] <Vertana> It loves me.
[06:38] <Hypereia> So, anyone know why I can't get my display working?
[06:39] <Supermiguel> !gnoma
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnoma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <kate> !do you love vertana?
[06:39] <Supermiguel> !gnome
[06:39] <Hypereia> Is DVI not supported by Ubuntu?
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about do you love vertana? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[06:39] <kate> !kde
[06:39] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[06:39] <Vertana> I think what ubotu is trying to say is:
[06:39] <Supermiguel> !kdg
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <|mephisto|> !ati
[06:39] <Vertana> "Yes."
[06:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:39] <jordan> Ok, you stop abusing ubotu now :)
[06:39] <electroco> can you run fluxbox instead of KDE on ubuntu live?
[06:39] <stonarmusic> kate - i used to go to linux users meetings in Ashland, they were called RPLUG, or something
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[06:39] <Vertana> :)
[06:39] <stonarmusic> kate - hold on, i'll find a link
[06:39] <jordan> electroco, You have to download a different, kubuntu CD.
[06:39] <kate> stonarmusic, were trying to start a linux club at ahs
[06:40] <jordan> electroco, sorry NV...
[06:40] <domster> !tell me about mailx
[06:40] <Hypereia> Hmm...
[06:40] <mikewinsdesk> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1586450#post1586450 , here is a better explaination of my problem with webmin and apache2, help appreciated
[06:40] <kate> !mailx
[06:40] <|mephisto|> i guess no body can help with getting an ati driver to compile into .deb packages?
[06:40] <ubotu> mailx: A simple mail user agent. In component main, is optional. Version 1:8.1.2-0.20050715cvs-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 149 kB, installed size 288 kB
[06:40] <kate> there u go domster
[06:40] <jordan> electroco, You can apt-get install it from the liveCD ( it's amazing but you can install aps to a ramdisk )
[06:40] <Vertana> Sorry Mephisto.
[06:41] <kate> !games
[06:41] <Hypereia> Is it that the generic driver doesn't want to work with my card? Running through the xserver config didn't seem to fix anything
[06:41] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[06:41] <|mephisto|> hmm
[06:41] <Vertana> But if it makes you feel better... you're not the only one that hates ATI.
[06:41] <Vertana> =P
[06:41] <kate> !ATI
[06:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:41] <Hypereia> Display not detected, or something...Maybe it's the DVI problem
[06:41] <Vertana> Omg, kate knock it off already lol.
[06:41] <ltr20> Hello, when i type 'ktrorrent' i get "Segmentation fault"
[06:41] <stonarmusic> kate - i can't find the webpage, but if you guys want there is a virtual lug for all of Oregon at #orlug on freenode
[06:41] <|mephisto|> hehe. I know I could get this to work, I must have messed up my system somewhere along the way, but at the moment nothing to do with ATI...
[06:41] <kate> Vertana, just trying to help out :P
[06:41] <Vertana> =P
[06:42] <|mephisto|> I'll save my nasty emails for later. thanks anyway :)
[06:42] <kate> Vertana, u like it
[06:42] <electroco> jordan: you have to be connected to the internet dont you?
[06:42] <stonarmusic> kate- it's mostly programmer guys from around Portland, but they have always helped with simple stuff, they are good
[06:42] <Hypereia> ~_~
[06:42] <Vertana> Kate... stop sharing secrets.
[06:42] <Vertana> I think it is an ATI problem.
[06:42] <Hypereia> Talking to me?
[06:42] <Vertana> I've never heard of this with NVIDIA drivers and you are NOT the only one who has this problem.
[06:42] <jordan> electroco, Yes, although you could download the .deb files seperately but it would be a pain.
[06:43] <kate> My nvidia works like a charm
[06:43] <electroco> jordan: than I cant do it
[06:43] <Vertana> No Hyperia.
[06:43] <Vertana> Same here ^^
[06:43] <Vertana> Know why?
[06:43] <|mephisto|> I can't find anybody else who's had an issue with running the installation program and producing .deb files :(
[06:43] <electroco> jordan: I doubt I will get wireless working on this anyways
[06:43] <kate> ive heard many ppl complain about ATI and ubuntu though
[06:43] <electroco> I really should use a stick
[06:43] <electroco> hmm
[06:43] <Vertana> Nvidia loves me... the consumer =p
[06:43] <electroco> usb
[06:43] <Vertana> Me too.
[06:43] <jordan> electroco, Why do you say that?
[06:43] <electroco> I want something like Nubuntu but with the apps that ubuntu has
[06:43] <Vertana> !nubuntu
[06:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <|mephisto|> last time I buy an HP laptop... companies they use for components are terrible.
[06:44] <Vertana> Ok, what's nubuntu? =p
[06:44] <Hypereia> In a nut shell, my x300SE(using VGA) worked when I installed Ubuntu. I took that card out, put x800 in connected under DVI, and now "No display detected".
[06:44] <electroco> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nubuntu.org%2F&ei=Hd8lRcLgMZ2soQKN0PjaCQ&sig=__y8xrsviFaQzjBxVI79-9adAsxOQ=&sig2=8LhUpZkZRVW5nzLm4MKylQ
[06:44] <electroco> oh wait
[06:44] <Hypereia> Please help.
[06:44] <jordan> electroco, Then you could install nubuntu and the apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ( I know internet again;)
[06:44] <electroco> http://www.nubuntu.org/
[06:44] <Vertana> Hyp... I don't have a fix : /
[06:44] <electroco> nubuntu is so quick
[06:44] <electroco> starts up in seconds
[06:44] <electroco> ubuntu takes minutes
[06:45] <Hypereia> Help me before I pull more hair out.
[06:45] <konfuzed> hey how do i get torrent with encryption
[06:45] <Vertana> Ok...
[06:45] <Vertana> Lemme see if I can pull something outta thin air.
[06:45] <jordan> electroco, so do you just want this as a LiveCD?
[06:45] <electroco> yeah pretty much
[06:45] <electroco>  a distro wouldnt be bad
[06:45] <Hypereia> Vertana: Can you confirm if there are problems with Ubuntu and DVI video cards?
[06:45] <Vertana> That's what I'm searching for now actually :D
[06:46] <Hypereia> You're the best.
[06:46] <Vertana> Well, well.
[06:46] <britt> vlc xvid plugins are non-free right
[06:46] <Vertana> 5 seconds and we have something :P
[06:46] <Vertana> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/+bug/13956
[06:46] <jordan> electroco, What kind of aps do you want?
[06:46] <Vertana> Oops, disregard that.  That's an old, old report.
[06:46] <Hypereia> Ohhh.
[06:47] <Vertana> Unless you happen to be running that version... =p
[06:47] <_Er1K_> Vertana:  nvidia cards can behave differently depending on what is connected at startup.  If you haven't already, run it with ONLY the dvi connected.
[06:47] <electroco> I just want the basics
[06:47] <electroco> openoffice firefox
[06:47] <_Er1K_> Vertana: does your mob have an onboard video chipset it is seeing first, maybe?
[06:47] <Hypereia> Well, my copy of Ubuntu is pretty new, installed it about 3-6 weeks ago
[06:47] <electroco> a video player wouldnt hurt
[06:47] <jordan> electroco, DSL is a verry small verry fast liveCD, but it doesn't have many applications.
[06:47] <electroco> im gonna use it for school
[06:47] <Vertana> 1) it's not my problem, it's hypereia's 2) I use NVIDIA... the problem is an ATI card
[06:48] <jordan> electroco, Have you tried Xubuntu?
[06:48] <ITSa341> can someone point me to a way to merge a spanned rar set in linux?
[06:48] <electroco> yeah but DSL doesnt use fluxbox
[06:48] <jordan> electroco, Yes, I believe it does.
[06:48] <jordan> electroco, I may be wrong though.
[06:49] <kate> whats fluxbox?
[06:49] <kate> !fluxbox
[06:49] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[06:49] <Hypereia> Vertana, if you are able to further search on this matter I'd be appreciative.
[06:49] <Vertana> I'm doing it right now.
[06:49] <hunterofhell> !netboot
[06:49] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[06:49] <Hypereia> Thank you.
[06:50] <Vertana> I don't know if it's a "bug" so to speak, but you're not the only one with this exact problem.
[06:50] <electroco> I think it uses JWM
[06:50] <kate> By vertana
[06:50] <electroco> it might have flux optionally
[06:50] <deoryp> ion3!
[06:50] <Vertana> Good bye kate ^.^
[06:50] <Hypereia> Speaking to me?
[06:50] <kate> wiat what is there other than flux?
[06:50] <Vertana> Yes sir.
[06:50] <Hypereia> I'm glad I'm not the only one.
[06:50] <jordan> electroco, You can make custom LiveCD's pretty easily with DSL and Puppy linux, but you would need internet access.
[06:51] <kishore> where can i learn about postgres
[06:51] <Hypereia> Which means, I'm not the victim of my own stupidity.
[06:51] <Vertana> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2006-September/018345.html
[06:51] <Hypereia> ;-)
[06:51] <Vertana> Which is why I'm continuing to blame ATI =P
[06:51] <stonarmusic> electroco - there used to be distro call morphix that was easy to customize, and it was made for live cds
[06:51] <electroco> I have internet access just not on my linux laptop
[06:51] <Vertana> Ok, what is the behaviour of your monitor?
[06:51] <Vertana> Is it just blank?
[06:51] <JuiceBox> Hey guys, is there any other developer in Ubuntu besides Nano?
[06:51] <kishore> ubotu, postgres
[06:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about postgres - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <Hypereia> You know, I used to be an Nvidia fan. ATI was just getting a foothold in my door, but then this happens. :o
[06:52] <kishore> ubotu, mysql
[06:52] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[06:52] <jordan> electroco, It is really easier to do from a linux machine though.
[06:52] <Vertana> I've always been an NVIDIA guy ^^
[06:52] <_Er1K_> Hypereia:  there is nothing, not even an unconnected cable, switchbox, or dead monitor on the VGA port?
[06:52] <Hypereia> Hey, Nvidia has always been reliable, you can't deny that.
[06:52] <jordan> electroco, Why don't you think you can get wireless to work, and can you connect with ethernet for long enough to set the CD up?
[06:53] <ITSa341> I need help, I need to recover a document from a backup set from before I switched to linux. I think I made it with winrar but it was a while ago. The archive is spanned in 3-700 mb rar files and one 112mb rar. I don't know how to restore them in linux or merge them back together. Can someone point me to the info. I have tried google etc.
[06:53] <AeonPax> hmmm.. so ATI cards have serious problems with ubuntu.. for me ATI were nicer vcards in windows. hmm.. so good thing i'm using nvidia
[06:53] <AeonPax> :D
[06:53] <raghu206> can some one comment on freespire
[06:53] <bald> Can anybody tell me if ubuntu uses ALSA or JACK sound server?
[06:54] <jordan> bald, ALSA
[06:54] <ITSa341> raghu206  I use freespire   I like it
[06:54] <rredd4> when I cp or rename a file with (  ) in its name, I get this message       -su: syntax error near unexpected token `('      how can I fix that?
[06:54] <Vertana> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/28925  << sorry Mephisto
[06:54] <bald> thanks
[06:54] <Hypereia> AeonPax: I first installed Ubuntu on my x300SE, it's not necessarily ATI as it is ATI + DVI, I believe.
[06:54] <raghu206> ITSa341, whats the feature thats most promissing for u
[06:54] <Vertana> Lmao I meant Hypereia, not Mephisto, sorry ^^
[06:54] <_Er1K_> rredd4: use \( for the special characters or molest tab
[06:55] <Hypereia> ^.^
[06:55] <deoryp> !ion3
[06:55] <ubotu> ion3: keyboard-friendly window manager with tiled windows (devel). In component universe, is extra. Version 20060107-4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1322 kB, installed size 3448 kB
[06:55] <w30> raghu206, it's a come on for Linspire. Freespire has access to the Linspire repository for a while but it expires after so long a time.
[06:55] <jordan> raghu206, Upstart, but thats for Edgy ( and only my opinion )
[06:55] <rredd4> _Er1K_  molest tab??
[06:55] <w30> raghu206, amont I think?
[06:55] <ITSa341> raghu206    everything works out of the box, drivers media etc etc. Click n Run warehouse is now free whether you run Linspire or freespire
[06:55] <JuiceBox> Guys is there any other compiler besides BASH in Ubuntu???  I cant seem to get anything to compile
[06:56] <Hypereia> Vertana: Could you be a champ and PM me those links? I'm using default mIRC and it's hard to keep track of the links in all this.
[06:56] <w30> raghu206, a month I think?
[06:56] <ITSa341> w30   wrong
[06:56] <ITSa341> free now
[06:56] <Healot> bash isn't compiler
[06:56] <Healot> !build
[06:56] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:56] <_Er1K_> rred: when you use tab from bash for filename completion, it will usually put he escape characters in there for you
[06:56] <JuiceBox> oh ok
[06:56] <JuiceBox> thanks
[06:56] <ITSa341> not for a month, free
[06:56] <w30> ITSa341, for all time on the download of applications?
[06:56] <Hypereia> Bash is just a linux shell, right?
[06:56] <Hypereia> I'm new to linux.
[06:56] <Werdna> yes
[06:56] <_Er1K_> yes
[06:56] <jordan> Hypereia, Yes.
[06:56] <_Er1K_> bourne again
[06:57] <azureal> lo, is there really a big difference in edgy?
[06:57] <Hypereia> Yeah, many shells available for linux
[06:57] <Healot> command line interpreter
[06:57] <JuiceBox> why cant i get !build to work lol :(
[06:57] <Healot> the long name for it
[06:57] <Hypereia> Yeah
[06:57] <jordan> azureal, I think so.
[06:57] <_Er1K_> Hypereia:  at least a dozen, but only 3-4 are common/popular.
[06:57] <Healot> JuiceBox, follow the direction after
[06:57] <deoryp> _Er1K_ like a bourne again linux user? haha
[06:57] <azureal> jordan, i was reading the changes they made, but it seems that only latest program versions are listed..
[06:57] <offby1> I upgraded recently, and with the new kernel (2.6.17-10-386) my wireless card no longer works.  (With 2.6.17-7-386 it's fine.)  How do I resolve this?  It's a pretty common Linksys card, although I'm not sure of the model ...
[06:57] <ruxpin> where is the crontab file located, that 'crontab -e' edits? It's not /etc/crontab. I'm using fcron.
[06:57] <Healot> JuiceBox, install build-essential to get basic compiler tool chain
[06:58] <offby1> ruxpin: /etc/cron.d/something, I think
[06:58] <ITSa341> for almost any of the downloads, there are a few Click N Buy but they are not needed unless you are looking for major apps like some cad apps or some 3d games but if you can install it free legally in any linux you can install it free in Freespire. Apt-get and dpkg work in freespire also
[06:58] <azureal> offby1, can you use lspci to find the model?
[06:58] <JuiceBox> it says
[06:58] <JuiceBox> bash: build: command not found
[06:58] <jordan> azureal, Much better power management support AIGLX built in, upstart, I could go on for days :)
[06:58] <Vertana> Juice Box, what are you trying to do?
[06:58] <w30> ITSa341, that might be a good distro for new users of Linux then, if it's free of charge for applications because the 3rd party apps they have are worth buying .
[06:58] <ruxpin> offby1: no, couldn't find it there.
[06:58] <JuiceBox> compile a C program
[06:58] <rredd4> _Er1K_  thanks!!
[06:58] <kijjaz> now i can read/write from USB thumbdrives, but can only read from USB external harddisk.. how can i write to those drives?
[06:58] <Healot> !build isn;t a Linux command!
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about build isn;t a Linux command! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <offby1> ruxpin: yeah, sorry; I don't know where it is :-(
[06:59] <offby1> I'll run "strace" on "crontab -l"; that'll tell me ...
[06:59] <ITSa341> w30   I agree, I use it on some of my comps and have ubuntu and xandros on some also
[06:59] <Vertana> Try
[06:59] <Healot> duh, it's the command for the bot here... it's not a Linux command, for tux's sake
[06:59] <ruxpin> kijjaz: which fs?
[06:59] <_Er1K_> np, rred
[06:59] <Vertana> cd ./
[06:59] <jordan> azureal, But it depends on what you want to do with your computer, you may not notice much difference.
[06:59] <Vertana> sh config(ure) && make install
[06:59] <ITSa341> w30  I have tried dozens of distros and ubuntu, xandros and freespire are my favorites
[06:59] <kijjaz> ruxpin: actually i wanna format that partition for linux use also!
[06:59] <azureal> jordan, well, i have a laptop...any noticeable differences?
[07:00] <berent> !build
[07:00] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:00] <kijjaz> ruxpin: but it was formatted under windows.
[07:00] <jordan> azureal, Definately...
[07:00] <Deramin> can someone famillier with the JDK for ubuntu give me a hand? I'm having some OS-specific issues with it
[07:00] <kijjaz> ruxpin: so i guess it's Fat32 now.
[07:00] <azureal> jordan, define "better power management" =P
[07:00] <ruxpin> kijjaz: is it empty?
[07:00] <ITSa341> I need help, I need to recover a document from a backup set from before I switched to linux. I think I made it with winrar but it was a while ago. The archive is spanned in 3-700 mb rar files and one 112mb rar. I don't know how to restore them in linux or merge them back together. Can someone point me to the info. I have tried google etc.
[07:00] <jordan> azureal, Does sleep work for you in dapper?
[07:00] <ruxpin> kijjaz: if you want write access, add -o umask=000 to the mount command
[07:00] <JuiceBox> !build command not found!
[07:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about build command not found! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:00] <azureal> i never use sleep =P
[07:00] <kijjaz> ruxpin: the partition is empty. i wanna use it as a storage for linux computers around here.
[07:00] <jordan> azureal, Because it might in Edgy.
[07:00] <offby1> ruxpin: /var/spool/cron/crontabs
[07:00] <Hypereia> I'm still unclear what the solution to this is, I've read some of the links you sent and read others are having the same problem, but one guy said he was able to get it to work. however, when running the xserver config, all default options still doesn't work.
[07:00] <kijjaz> ruxpin: oh ...
[07:00] <RedGhost> I noticed ubuntu doesn't come with a chess game, can somebody recommend one???
[07:00] <rredd4> I sure would like to see a keyboard command for copy, paste in Gnome terminal program.....
[07:01] <kijjaz> ruxpin: let me try.. eh eh.
[07:01] <ruxpin> kijjaz: unmount, then 'mke2fs -j /dev/<partition>'
[07:01] <azureal> RedGhost, i think there's gnomechess
[07:01] <jordan> azureal, Do you like compiz? ( XGL effects )
[07:01] <foo> Can I extend an NTFS partition in ubuntu?
[07:01] <berent> why does gaim quit immediately when its closed
[07:01] <azureal> jordan, my built-in laptop video card isnt good enough
[07:01] <ruxpin> kijjaz: that destroys everything without asking so make sure you get it right
[07:01] <kijjaz> ruxpin: mke2fs.. hmm never heard of that before. i'll try.
[07:01] <w30> ITSa341, what's the comercial wine like application they use? I forget
[07:01] <berent> sign off i mean
[07:01] <ChocoCid> cedega
[07:01] <Vertana> w30: Cedega?
[07:01] <jordan> azureal, Is it less than 5 years old?
[07:01] <ruxpin> kijjaz: add -L <volume_name> if you want to call it something
[07:01] <JuiceBox> Sooo.. nobody knows how to compile a program?
[07:01] <w30> Vertana, yeah, thanks
[07:01] <JuiceBox> in nano
[07:01] <azureal> jordan, well yes... are you about to recommend transparency?
[07:02] <Vertana> No problem.
[07:02] <azureal> jordan, because true transparency runs badly
[07:02] <Vertana> I use Cedega myself.
[07:02] <ruxpin> in nano?
[07:02] <rredd4> foo   u mean like    mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 foo     ?
[07:02] <JuiceBox> well i mean i wrote the program in nano
[07:02] <jordan> azureal, Ok then you are probably right :)
[07:02] <JuiceBox> and i want to compile it
[07:02] <Healot> !build
[07:02] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:02] <ITSa341> w30  freespire doesn't come with wine preinstalled but it's a one click install from Click n Run. Xandros comes with crossover office pro depending on which version you buy
[07:02] <Healot> follow that link for god's sake
[07:02] <spanky_> Hey there guys. Does anyone know of an way to keep GUI processes running after logging out? Something similar to what screen does for cl programs.
[07:02] <Healot> !build > JuiceBox
[07:02] <jordan> azureal, Your boot time will probably be cut in half.
[07:02] <JuiceBox> oh ok
[07:03] <JuiceBox> i'll try that 1 sec
[07:03] <kijjaz> ruxpin: hmmm.. (i have too few knowledge on doing that.. i've never mounted things manually before)
[07:03] <azureal> jordan, it's already pretty short, i guess =)
[07:03] <JuiceBox> grrr still says "!build: event not found
[07:03] <ruxpin> kijjaz: 'mount /dev/<fat32_part> /mnt/<foobar> -o umask=000'
[07:03] <azureal> jordan, so should i wait for the next version to come out?  the format is Day.Month, right?  so maybe 7.10?
[07:03] <berent>  gaim quits as soon as its window is closed  in dapper?
[07:03] <Healot> JuiceBox, follow the link.... open the url in a web browser... wtf?
[07:03] <jordan> azureal, Agian, depending on how you use your computer Edgy may have no benefit and you might want to stick with Dapper for stability.
[07:04] <foo> rredd4: hmm, resize, I mean.
[07:04] <Healot> read up the text on that page... JuiceBox
[07:04] <jordan> azureal, 6.10
[07:04] <rredd4> foo ohh sorry, i can't help there
[07:04] <Healot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware > For you JuiceBox
[07:04] <berent>  gaim quits as soon as its window is closed  in dapper?
[07:04] <azureal> oh, nvm lol
[07:04] <sidny4> !dual monitors
[07:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual monitors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:04] <foo> rredd4: hehe, thanks anyways
[07:04] <AstralJava> berent: I don't recall that, isn't there a gaim icon in the notification area? It just disconnects.
[07:04] <sidny4> !nvidia
[07:04] <azureal> ah, i'm using 6.06..clean forgot..
[07:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:04] <JuiceBox> ok yeah i followed it... i need to install the build-essential package
[07:04] <AstralJava> berent: Currently using Edgy, so I can't check.
[07:05] <JuiceBox> so i get GCC
[07:05] <berent> astraljava:no icon left it signs off
[07:05] <JuiceBox> but i dunno where that is ... im looking
[07:05] <_Er1K_> sidney: dual displays are not as easy as they should be with ubuntu...not nearly
[07:05] <Vertana> Later ^^
[07:05] <AstralJava> berent: Okay then.
[07:05] <_Er1K_> sidney: if you want me to post my xorg.conf for dual head nvidia, hollar
[07:05] <Healot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware >> read this page, follow the instructions, JuiceBox
[07:05] <jordan> azureal, Anything feature you want that isn't in Dapper?
[07:05] <azureal> ah, jordan, btw... i dont seem to have "update-manager"
[07:06] <offby1> azureal: capital idea!
[07:06] <b33m3r> isn't it ironic that you don't get mp3 playback out of the box in ubuntu but you do in slackware?
[07:06] <azureal> blah...
[07:06] <azureal> i dont feel like apt-getting it
[07:06] <AstralJava> b33m3r: Why should it be ironic?
[07:06] <jordan> azureal, I did a clean install so I don't know about upgrading to beta releases, sorry.
[07:06] <azureal> jordan, i'm just kidding
[07:06] <_Er1K_> minor and easily correct, b33m3r, some just are not willing to potentially violate the law for convenience
[07:06] <b33m3r> linux for humans? (slogan) I'm having a heck of time getting it to work
[07:07] <jordan> azureal, lol my bad.
[07:07] <ITSa341> Night everyone, have fun
[07:07] <AstralJava> b33m3r: There's also a lot of talk about using free software.
[07:07] <azureal> jordan, it's just a matter of  api update-manager, then gksu "update-manager"
[07:07] <_Er1K_> night itsa
[07:07] <offby1> azureal: well, lspci shows a 3c905c, but I'm 80% sure that's the _other_ network adapter -- the one on the motherboard.  I don't see the wireless card.  It's a pcmcia card, so I guess lspci won't show it ...
[07:07] <berent> b33m3r : aren't u human
[07:07] <azureal> jordan where api = apt-get install
[07:07] <offby1> azureal: orinoco_cs, I think.
[07:07] <b33m3r> I understand the licensing issue, but I should be able to install and configure. no luck so far.
[07:07] <Hypereia> Alright, I'm going to try something, wish me luck.
[07:07] <azureal> offby1, lspci | grep -i wireless  maybe?
[07:07] <AstralJava> b33m3r: But it might be installed by default in the future, I hear mp3 patents are expiring someday soon. Forget the date, though.
[07:08] <jordan> azureal, Why is it a GUI app?
[07:08] <evi|one> I have a question about Edgy. I understand it comes with loads of beta software. My question is: is everything going to be in a perpetual beta state? I mean, as soon as a beta version is released for some application it will prompt you to upgrade?
[07:08] <offby1> azureal: orinoco_cs, I think.
[07:08] <Healot> #ubuntu+1 > evi|one
[07:08] <_Er1K_> b3: turn the universe/metaverse packages on and you should be set
[07:08] <azureal> well, i'm not sure then, but if it's orinoco, it should work well
[07:08] <b33m3r> I'm quite certain I have all the plugins installed, but it's still not working. Any clues?
[07:08] <offby1> azureal: of course it should :-)
[07:08] <jordan> evi|one, I am not sure I understand your question.
[07:09] <berent> what is metaverse
[07:09] <azureal> offby1, orinoco + linux = l33t
[07:09] <offby1> azureal: I suspect it's just some module that didn't get loaded.  But I dunno which :-(
[07:09] <jordan> !multiverse
[07:09] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:09] <azureal> i should actually get an orinoco card..
[07:09] <Quintin> Admiral_Chicago: ehm... did you say before intel doesn't open source their stuff ??
[07:10] <offby1> well, lsmod | egrep orinoco reveals a pile of loaded drivers (I'm using the older, working kernel, now, of course).  Maybe I'll stick those in /etc/modules.
[07:10] <azureal> offby1, do you have the package "pcmcia-cs" installed?
[07:10] <jordan> evi|one, Can you refrase your question please?
[07:10] <offby1> azureal: dunno; hold on.
[07:10] <ChocoCid> edgy still uses the repositories, not CVS
[07:10] <offby1> azureal: yes, I do.
[07:10] <_Er1K_> azureal:  be careful what wifi you buy for linux orinoco cones have worked well for me, as have atheros.  broadcom have usually been a PITA
[07:10] <Flannel> evi|one: edgy is frozen.
[07:11] <_Er1K_> s/cones/clones/
[07:11] <ChocoCid> they have to be updated in the repositories for edgy to update, just because there's some update that's in their CVS doesn't mean edgy will get that in the update
[07:11] <Flannel> evi|one: edgy is the next release, it is currently in a beta stage, it will be released normally as a stable release within the month
[07:11] <DaveyJ> i have a hardware question... i dont know where to ask so i guess i'll ask here.... i got a board (intel socket 775) for celeronD or p4... since its 775, does that mean it'd support a core2 duo also? or is it just the same socket
[07:12] <azureal> _Er1K_, yea, that's why i was looking into orinoco ;)
[07:12] <Admiral_Chicago> Quintin: not their drivers iirc
[07:12] <evi|one> Flannel: And after the final release, will it use *stable* software? Or the latest version (beta/rc/final/whatever) of the software?
[07:12] <Flannel> DaveyJ: that'd be a question for #ubuntu-offtopic, or #hardware
[07:12] <jordan> evi|one, stable.
[07:12] <Flannel> evi|one: it'll be just like current ubuntu.  Using whatever versions it has now, with bugfixes.
[07:12] <calamari> hi
[07:13] <evi|one> I see. Thanks.
[07:13] <b33m3r> Astral: is mp3 problem a known issue for dapper?
[07:13] <Quintin> Admiral_Chicago: ehm... bull
[07:13] <jordan> b33m3r, Yes.
[07:13] <DaveyJ> lol there is a #hardware?
[07:13] <azureal> offby1, i dont have too much time atm to google it, but you should do that and read about installing the orinoco driver (which is probably in that pcmcia-cs package)
[07:13] <b33m3r> ah
[07:13] <Deramin> the JDK in the repository should contain every file the one on Sun's website does, right?
[07:13] <DaveyJ> how do you like that
[07:13] <jordan> !restricted formats
[07:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:13] <offby1> azureal: hmm, thanks ... it's odd, though, since it worked fine last week before I upgraded ...
[07:13] <calamari> rebooted and out of the blue it is telling me that nautilus has quit unexpectedly.  I ran it in a console and got: "(nautilus:5335): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_action_disconnect_accelerator: assertion `GTK_IS_ACTION (action)' failed" 3 times... but that's it.  Any ideas what's up with nautilus?
[07:13] <_Er1K_> azureal:  as long as the propriety firmware images do not bother your politics, I highly recommend the atheros setup.
[07:13] <azureal> offby1, yea, i think you're right about something not loading
[07:14] <b33m3r> free formats is just not an option
[07:14] <b33m3r> realistically
[07:14] <Ransom1> Anyone ever installed drivers for an Intell 3945?  I'm a linux noob and I've spent about 8 hours today following the how to's with no luck.  Any help would be greately appreciated
[07:14] <Flannel> b33m3r: mp3 support is easy enough to install, it's just not included out of the box
[07:14] <_Er1K_> Several of the broadcom chipsets (e.g. Linksys) violate FCC regs b/c the frequency ranges are dependent upon the country code you enter
[07:14] <_Er1K_> not allowed
[07:14] <_Er1K_> period
[07:14] <b33m3r> right, so why can't I get it to work?
[07:15] <jordan> b33m3r, Basically it would be eligal ( and some would argue inethical ) for them to have mp3 by default, but there is no problem with installing it yourself.
[07:15] <jordan> *ilegal
[07:15] <b33m3r> I've checked for all the gstreamer packages and they appear to be installed
[07:15] <b33m3r> am I missing something?
[07:15] <offby1> azureal: yeah -- another piece of evidence is that there's a little light on the card that usually blinks as soon as the driver loads, regardless of network traffic.  With -10, it's off; with -7 (the version that works) it blinks happily
[07:15] <offby1> ah well
[07:16] <Flannel> b33m3r: you have ubuntu or kubuntu?
[07:16] <jordan> !restricted formats > b33m3r
[07:16] <b33m3r> ubuntu
[07:17] <b33m3r> ok, I'll check the other packages listed on RestrictedFormats
[07:17] <Flannel> b33m3r: and you have gstreamer0.8-mad and -misc?
[07:17] <Flannel> b33m3r: (this means you've enabled multiverse)
[07:17] <b33m3r> one sec
[07:19] <david_> I am having trouble getting ATI drivers working on Edgy
[07:19] <JuiceBox> grrrr why is it so hard to compile :( i cnat figure this out
[07:19] <Flannel> david_: #ubuntu+1
[07:19] <Flannel> !tell JuiceBox about compile
[07:19] <Ransom1> anyone willing to let me talk my way through a driver install?  The how to's aren't working :(
[07:20] <JuiceBox> ive seen that link
[07:20] <JuiceBox> i still cant figure it out :(
[07:20] <highneko> Firefox is not responding and I can't see it. How to close it?
[07:20] <blind> My vnc server is not working right. It runs, but on display 1. I want it on display 0. And, when I connect, here's what it looks like: http://blindx.net/vnc.png
[07:21] <stonarmusic> highneko - do you see a window?
[07:21] <highneko> Nope.
[07:21] <highneko> I  see windows yes, but not firefox.
[07:22] <stonarmusic> highneko - opena terminal, and type 'ps -A'
[07:22] <b33m3r> Flannel: yes I have gstreamer mad and misc. still no joy.
[07:22] <ardchoille> highneko: ps aux | grep firefox
[07:23] <Phlosten> b33m3r: is mp3 support in the 'ugly' set?
[07:23] <highneko> Is there no gui for closing these things?
[07:23] <sidny4> how do I make ubuntu work with dual monitors?
[07:24] <Ransom1> ok, here's a quick question.  How do I install something that needs root permissions?
[07:24] <david_> sudo
[07:24] <blind> !xinerama
[07:24] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[07:24] <ardchoille> highneko: You could try gnome-system-monitor
[07:24] <Ransom1> it keeps saying "permission denied"
[07:24] <stonarmusic> highneko if you can see a wndow there is a program called xkill
[07:24] <calamari> fixed it.. reinstalled nautilus and nautilus-data
[07:24] <kijjaz> ruxpin: i've unmounted, formated with mke2fs, but it still automount the same way when io plug the USB external hdd  in..
[07:25] <kijjaz> ruxpin: how can i mount it again? (it's /dev/sda1 here)
[07:25] <JuiceBox> OMG im so confused, i just installed Ubuntu a few days ago and I'm trying to compile my first C program that I wrote.  I've looked online at the stupid Ubuntu compiling page and still cant figure it out.... If anyone can help me 1 on 1 i'd greatly appreciate it!!!!
[07:25] <w30> blind, usually display 1 comes up because display 0 is allready running . Check with ps aux | grep vnc or maybe vncserver
[07:25] <highneko> ardchoille: That worked great. Thanks. :3
[07:25] <ardchoille> JuiceBox: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:25] <ardchoille> highneko: You're welcome :)
[07:25] <blind> w30: i did. nothing else running.
[07:26] <blind> w30: any clue why it looks like that, though?
[07:27] <corsair> whois
[07:28] <swashbuc1linstev> so, gtkwifi is pretty cool :-)
[07:28] <blind> Another VNC issue: I can't connect to the VNC connection I'm running upstairs. The java applet works, and a loopback connection works, but it doesn't work from my computer
[07:28] <kijjaz> ruxpin: now it works.. thanks (but i still have to be root to write the new ext3 disk)
[07:28] <ghostshadow189> hi all , i've a problem that i cant listen to music
[07:28] <ltr20> Hello, when i type 'ktrorrent' i get "Segmentation fault"
[07:28] <ghostshadow189> i installed juK and Noatun but both of them doesnt work . with juK , it couldnt play music . with Noatun , when it started it warned me : "Connecting/starting aRTs sound server failed . Make sure that artd is configured properly ."
[07:29] <ghostshadow189> when boot i can hear sound , both sound when i type password and sound when ubuntu load and ofcourse when i shutdown comp .
[07:29] <ghostshadow189> in sound manger i saw that there're 3 devices :
[07:29] <ghostshadow189> file -> change device -> 0: HDA ATI SB (Alxar Mixer) - 1: DellSound blaster live (Alxar Mixer) - 2: Realtek ALC883 (OSS Mixer) . Soi'm using Realtek .
[07:29] <ltr20> ghostshadow189, try a diffrent sound output (oss,asa etc)
[07:29] <Ransom1> can anyone tell me what I need to do when an instruction shows I need to use (#) in the console?
[07:29] <ghostshadow189> yes i'm using Realtek , it's oss
[07:30] <highneko> Ransom1: I believe that means you need to be root.
[07:30] <ardchoille> Ransom1: Use sudo: sudo <command>
[07:30] <highneko> highneko: Be careful using that tho. ;)
[07:30] <highneko> Oops!
[07:31] <Deramin> JuiceBox: in the terminal: gcc <full file name> (no <>)
[07:31] <b33m3r> Flannel: maybe I'm doing something wrong in the repository configuration. I enabled everything I could see. :)
[07:31] <ghostshadow189> s1 help me pls ?
[07:32] <b33m3r> but, All the packages recommended in the RestrictedFormats page are installed. :/
[07:32] <Deramin> JuiceBox: gcc is the c/c++ compiler built into ubuntu.
[07:32] <sidny4> anybody know of a good tutorial for getting dual monitors to work?
[07:32] <Deramin> If I've got the JDK installed, how do I compile Java code?
[07:32] <Ransom1> ardchoille: so just type sudo before the command?
[07:32] <w30> blind, you have got to configure your vncserver to run a window-manager. the only thing you have going is an xterm.  I don't have vncserver installed yet on Ubuntu so I can't tell you chich config file to put your start kde or start gnome-session in., but that's what you have to do.
[07:32] <ardchoille> Ransom1: Yes
[07:33] <ardchoille> !sudo
[07:33] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:33] <ardchoille> Ransom1: But, be aware that the command will be running with root privs.
[07:33] <blind> w30: it used to work more than that :\
[07:34] <Ransom1> ardchoille: I'm trying unsuccessfully to get my wireless running (a step by step following of the instructions doesn't work unfortunently...)   On section 3 it mentions "automatic daemon leading via modprobe"
[07:34] <Ransom1> ardchoille: any idea what that is?
[07:34] <Ransom1> ardchoille: another step or another way of loading drivers?
[07:34] <JuiceBox> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 permission denied)
[07:35] <Flannel> JuiceBox: close synaptic/updatemanager/whatever else you have open and try again
[07:35] <w30> blind, check /etc/vnc.config or conf or something like that
[07:35] <ardchoille> Ransom1: No, I've never messed with wireless or drivers much
[07:35] <JuiceBox> E: Unable to lick the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg), are you root?
[07:35] <ghostshadow189> hi all , i've a problem that i cant listen to music
[07:35] <ghostshadow189> i installed juK and Noatun but both of them doesnt work . with juK , it couldnt play music . with Noatun , when it started it warned me : "Connecting/starting aRTs sound server failed . Make sure that artd is configured properly ."
[07:35] <ghostshadow189> when boot i can hear sound , both sound when i type password and sound when ubuntu load and ofcourse when i shutdown comp .
[07:35] <ghostshadow189> in sound manger i saw that there're 3 devices :
[07:35] <JuiceBox> ;
[07:35] <ghostshadow189> file -> change device -> 0: HDA ATI SB (Alxar Mixer) - 1: DellSound blaster live (Alxar Mixer) - 2: Realtek ALC883 (OSS Mixer) . Soi'm using Realtek .
[07:35] <Ransom1> ardchoille: rats.  Hard to learn linux without being able to research online...lol
[07:36] <ardchoille> !wireless
[07:36] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:36] <ardchoille> Ransom1: You see that?
[07:36] <Flannel> ghostshadow189: you might try #kubuntu
[07:36] <JuiceBox> ok flannel ill try that
[07:36] <JuiceBox> although i have nothing runnning in ubuntu, but ubutu is running over windows
[07:37] <ghostshadow189> oh i'm using ubuntu
[07:37] <Flannel> JuiceBox: oh, the second one too... You'll need to use sudo or gksudo, or kdesu, depending on what youre running
[07:37] <Flannel> ghostshadow189: right, but those are KDE programs, so they'll be more familiar with them
[07:37] <JuiceBox> wait i got it
[07:37] <ghostshadow189> oh thanx , i'll try
[07:37] <JuiceBox> hanks flannel
[07:37] <JuiceBox> thanks*
[07:37] <Quintin> This is *amazing*
[07:37] <Quintin> Look!!!
[07:37] <Quintin> http://download.microsoft.com/download/F/C/F/FCFF3437-1726-4F83-910B-3FC27E5EBAFF/dtech_ccstudy.pdf
[07:37] <Ransom1> ardchoille: yeah I'll check.  So far I've gone through 3 how to's with no luck.  They all don't refer correctly to the files you download, and I'm not smart enough to know what subtle changes I need to make to make it work
[07:38] <ardchoille> Ransom1: Try a search at http://ubuntuforums.org
[07:39] <Hypereia> Ver!
[07:39] <Hypereia> I got it working...partially.
[07:39] <Hypereia> The problem of DVI on ATI card.
[07:40] <Ransom1> ardchoille: yeah I've been there trying to follow the step by steps all day.  No luck so far.  Thanks for trying though :)
[07:40] <jordan> Quintin, Are you trying to start a flamewar?
[07:40] <Ransom1> ardchoille: eventually I'll either figure it out or run into somebody who knows what I'm screwing up
[07:40] <bz0b> hey room
[07:40] <Quintin> jordan: That's pretty ignorant of you.  how on earth would I be trying to start a flamewar?
[07:40] <ardchoille> Ransom1: Yeah, that's one of the great things about Ubuntu.. there's always someone who can help you with anything :)
[07:41] <Hypereia> "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx","sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", then change ati to fglrx
[07:41] <Ransom1> ardchoille: yeah imagine how much easier it'll be to find when I can get internet working though...lol
[07:41] <Hypereia> That's the way.
[07:41] <seth> After su
[07:41] <bz0b> i just bought a new dell laptop e1505, and i googled a little but i can't seem to get the wireless card to work, even after updating to the 2.6.15 kernel as some said the drivers were pre-compiled in
[07:41] <bz0b> anyone have any ideas?
[07:41] <Hypereia> But...That driver isn't 100% compatible.
[07:41] <jordan> Quintin, Sorry, I just saw a Microsoft sponsored study and no relation to anything people were talking about, I am a pretty tired too sorry :)
[07:41] <jman_> can't get crossover office to install itunes grrrr
[07:42] <Hypereia> When I clicked "Restart" button, bam...monitor lost signal, turned to yellow light for stand-by.
[07:42] <bz0b> by the way its the intel 3945 abg chipset
[07:42] <Quintin> jordan: I paste it 'cause it is amazing.  just scroll down to the checkbox comparision of win2k3 and suse
[07:42] <Flannel> Quintin, jordan, this is not the place, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:42] <Hypereia> Does anyone share interest in my babbling, or is it just going into the wind?
[07:43] <bz0b> Hypereia, talking to me?
[07:43] <Quintin> jordan: there is no check by suse for anything except 'print server'.  just funny stuff
[07:43] <Quintin> Flannel: or I'll take it to bed.  hah!!  irc nazi
[07:43] <Hypereia> I was talking to the guy who helped me before, named "Ver" something.
[07:43] <nekloksan> hi
[07:43] <seth> After system update sound settings now are reset every reboot (Master and PCM are always muted after reboot). What can I do?
[07:43] <nekloksan> vagina?
[07:43] <Hypereia> He was trying to help me get DVI to work on my ATI card.
[07:43] <nekloksan> vagina anyone?`
[07:44] <ardchoille> nekloksan: Please take that somewhere else
[07:44] <Hypereia> When I tried to get my monitor to work VIA DVI connection, I would get "No display detected", or just my screen would go into standby mode.
[07:44] <RedGhost> seth: are you using VMware?
[07:44] <seth> RedGhost: no, no VMware.
[07:45] <Hypereia> Vaginas are a Myth, but yeah. I got it semi-working.
[07:45] <jstarcher> hello, anyone home?
[07:45] <RedGhost> Okay nevermind then.
[07:45] <nekloksan> u got vagina?
[07:45] <RedGhost> jstarcher: no
[07:45] <Hypereia> Yus.
[07:45] <nekloksan> cool
[07:45] <jstarcher> RedGhost: okay, cya
[07:45] <sambagirl> hey is seveas still here?
[07:45] <Hypereia> I just need a better driver now.
[07:45] <nekloksan> quety?
[07:45] <nekloksan> query
[07:45] <nekloksan> ?
[07:45] <jbmigel> Hypereia ill take it
[07:46] <Hypereia> Only for $5, you game?
[07:46] <Flannel> nekloksan, Hypereia, this is not the place.
[07:46] <jbmigel> heck ill pay $10
[07:46] <Hypereia> I didn't start this.
[07:46] <Hypereia> He made a mockery of me, so I simply played along.
[07:46] <YBH_1> seth
[07:46] <nekloksan> meth!
[07:46] <nekloksan> do meth every day!
[07:47] <Hypereia> Where can I get a good driver for an ATI x800, for Ubuntu?
[07:47] <nekloksan> does anyone know how to get a "real" root?
[07:47] <nekloksan> with password
[07:47] <seth> YBH_1: ?
[07:47] <nekloksan> and vagina :D
[07:47] <jstarcher> is there a way to show all the processes running?
[07:47] <azureal> "some third party sources were disabled" =P
[07:47] <ardchoille> !sudo > nekloksan
[07:47] <nekloksan> thx ardchoille
[07:47] <Hypereia> Why root, when there is sudo?
[07:47] <nekloksan> because i want vagina
[07:47] <nekloksan> not sudo
[07:47] <Hypereia> That explains everything.
[07:47] <YBH_1> lobin in single user mode type passwd
[07:48] <Hypereia> Thank you.
[07:48] <Quintin> nekloksan: 'sudo su'.  duh
[07:48] <Quintin> jstarcher: man ps!!
[07:48] <Flannel> nekloksan: read that page.  it explains it all.
[07:48] <azureal> LOL!  "your system does not contain a ubuntu-desktop....it was not possible to detect which version of ubuntu you are running."
[07:48] <Hypereia> El oh elz.
[07:48] <jordan> YBH_1,  You don't need to log in single user mode, you can just `sudo passord`
[07:48] <jstarcher> Ouch! I just noticed that FireFox was sucking up 1.3gb physical ram and it only had 2 tabs open. HUGE memory leak.
[07:49] <Hypereia> Wow, which version of FF?
[07:49] <nekloksan> thats normal for FF
[07:49] <Hypereia> And, are you sure it isn't an extension which is causing the leak?
[07:49] <jbmigel> jstarcher it was probably prefetching the internet
[07:49] <jstarcher> 2.0b2
[07:49] <Quintin> jstarcher: wow!  impressive.  either you've left it open a long time or you are using a non-ubuntu ff
[07:49] <nekloksan> I had 1.6 Gigs of ram
[07:49] <nekloksan> :D
[07:49] <b33m3r> quit
[07:49] <diminthedam> how do i see my system specs, without going to the BIOS (IDE, motherboard, etc)?
[07:49] <YBH_1> seth on the command line alsamixer and use the tab key to navigate and m key tio mute & unmute and the arrow keys to set the level.
[07:49] <Hypereia> 1.3GB of ram... that is a big leak.
[07:49] <Quintin> diminthedam: % cd /proc
[07:49] <YBH_1> then sudo alsactl store
[07:49] <jstarcher> Quintin, yeah, it's been open for a few days
[07:50] <azureal> ah, screw it... why is the upgrade to edgy so annoying
[07:50] <jstarcher> bahaha
[07:50] <azureal> why are you laughing
[07:50] <azureal> it is annoying.
[07:50] <jordan> diminthedam, System -> administration -> device manager
[07:50] <YBH_1> seth: sudo alsamixer then sudo alsactl store
[07:50] <Hypereia> ATI drivers for ubuntu, where?
[07:50] <Flannel> azureal: you should always reinstall the *ubuntu-desktop meta package before upgrades
[07:50] <jstarcher> Quintin: why does it get bigger the longer it's open?
[07:50] <Quintin> jstarcher: that will do it... even on a stable build in my experience.  just keeps hogging ram.. best to close and restart every now and then
[07:50] <Quintin> jstarcher: that's what the ladies tell me, yea
[07:51] <jordan> !ATI . Hypereia
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ATI . Hypereia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:51] <azureal> Flannel, is there a way to install ubuntu-desktop w/o installing a bunch of random applications?!
[07:51] <Quintin> Hypereia: ehm... ati.com?
[07:51] <jstarcher> Quintin: yeah, it did the same thing with 1.5.0.4 too so it's not just the beta build
[07:51] <Hypereia> !ATI
[07:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:51] <azureal> Flannel, like gnome*
[07:51] <nekloksan> !vagina nekloksan
[07:51] <azureal> Flannel, like evolution*
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vagina nekloksan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:51] <Admiral_Chicago> jordan: the command is !something > name
[07:51] <jstarcher> Quintin: stupid firefox, just like a women. Can't live with it and can't live without it
[07:51] <Hypereia> nek
[07:51] <Admiral_Chicago> so like !ATI > Hyperei...
[07:51] <Quintin> hah
[07:51] <Hypereia> You're treading on dangerous waters!
[07:51] <jbmigel> Hyperia you should "glxinfo | grep direct" first to see if your ati card is already supported in 3D by xorg
[07:51] <jordan> Admiral_Chicago, I know, typo.
[07:52] <Hypereia> Oh
[07:52] <Hypereia> In terminal
[07:52] <jbmigel> yes
[07:52] <Hypereia> Ok.
[07:52] <Flannel> azureal: no.  That's the point of the *-desktop meta packages
[07:52] <Hypereia> Let me write this down
[07:52] <Hypereia> I would be doing this from linux but
[07:52] <Hypereia> I can't find a linux mirc client
[07:53] <nekloksan> linux mirc client?
[07:53] <jbmigel> Hyperia if it says direct rendering = yes then you have 3D in the box!
[07:53] <Flannel> Hypereia: er... xchat-gnome is in main
[07:53] <blind> I need someone who knows a lot about setting up VNC to help me out. This is NOT working correctly.
[07:53] <diminthedam> Quintin: i dont know what % cd /proc did. nothing really. and device manager does not show me primary/slave
[07:53] <Quintin> Hypereia: linux mirc client?  esad <3
[07:53] <nekloksan> try winegina
[07:53] <Quintin> diminthedam: It takes you to /proc on your filesystem.  look at things in there
[07:53] <azureal> Flannel, that's not cool
[07:54] <nekloksan> Do-It-Now, do you have vagina?
[07:54] <nekloksan> query please
[07:54] <azureal> Flannel, so why did i remove gnome just to be forced to install it again!?!
[07:54] <jordan> !language > nekloksan
[07:54] <Flannel> azureal: if you don't want gnome, that's fine.  What are you currently using?
[07:54] <ghostshadow189> hi all , how to run a .rpm file ?
[07:54] <Hypereia> I need to confirm, you used a pipe in that command?
[07:54] <Do-It-Now> nekloksan: Hi have dik, you like?
[07:54] <Flannel> !tell ghostshadow189 about alien
[07:54] <jbmigel> ghostshadow189 man alien
[07:54] <nekloksan> vagina isnt family friendly?
[07:54] <nekloksan> wtf
[07:54] <diminthedam> Quintin: so there;s no tool to show me in a nice page all these details?
[07:55] <jordan> !language > Do-It-Now
[07:55] <Quintin> diminthedam: shrug.  depends on what you want to see, exactly.  google knows all
[07:55] <azureal> Flannel, fluxbox, but api-ing ubuntu-desktop wants to install almost 600mb
[07:55] <nekloksan> !language > jordan
[07:55] <Ransom1> anyone on that's ever installed an intel 3945?  I can't seem to get it to work :(
[07:55] <azureal> Flannel, because it wants to install a bunch of gnome stuff
[07:55] <Flannel> azureal: right, don'tneed to reinstall for that then.  just do the normal upgrade.
[07:56] <Flannel> azureal: update-manager complained, right?  just do normal upgrade (change sources, etc).  see !upgrade for more info, if you need more support, #ubuntu+1
[07:56] <cmatheson> i've been googling to get the i810 tv-out working on my dell laptop, but i can't find anything very definitive... how can this be done in linux?
[07:56] <Hypereia> I'll be back, hopefully.
[07:56] <cephalus> anyone able to help me mount an SFS drive ? (warning, linux noob)
[07:56] <azureal> Flannel, ah, yes, was just about to say so
[07:56] <Hypereia> nekloksan: You better be here when I return.
[07:57] <Do-It-Now> hi all
[07:57] <nekloksan> why? (:
[07:57] <Hypereia> Do what now?
[07:57] <nekloksan> i will leave soon
[07:57] <Hypereia> No you will not.
[07:57] <nekloksan> after masturbating
[07:57] <Hypereia> Oh.
[07:57] <azureal> Flannel, thx, i'll look into it
[07:57] <Flannel> azureal: update-manager is a gnome program, so obviously it wants ubuntu-desktop installed, I suppose they added a check, whichmakes sense because a lot of people remove some program and it removes ubuntu-desktop, and then the upgrade goes wonky
[07:57] <Hypereia> Masturbating is wasteful.
[07:57] <Flannel> !ops
[07:57] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[07:57] <jordan> Is there a moderator in this channel
[07:57] <vincenz> Hello, how do I remove an old kernel (2.6.12-10)?  The problem is that this package is not listed in synaptic.
[07:57] <Hypereia> I hope you keep a collection.
[07:57] <Tennessee> Hi all ... is python 2.5 going to be in edgy when edgy gets released?
[07:57] <ardchoille> Well, I guess I need to haul out my ignore list
[07:57] <azureal> Flannel, that's so silly! it should be a Gtk program!
[07:58] <blind> Anyone know a lot about VNC and willing to help me out one on one?
[07:58] <vincenz> Btw, I love the new font in Edgy :)
[07:59] <jordan> Tennessee, I think so.
[07:59] <seth> YBH_1: Thanks I did as you suggested. Do I have to do alsactl store every time I make a volume change and want it saved?
[07:59] <Flannel> Tennessee: whatever version is in edgy now, will be in edgy
[07:59] <nekloksan> eat my vagina!
[07:59] <blind> !coc > nekloksan
[07:59] <seth> YBH_1: Ubuntu used to save volume changes automatically.
[07:59] <nekloksan> cock!
[07:59] <jordan> !ban
[07:59] <ubotu> If you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable behaviour. If you're not sure what acceptable behaviour is please see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[07:59] <blind> nekloksan: knock it off.
[08:00] <nekloksan> k
[08:00] <nekloksan> :] 
[08:00] <vincenz> Anyone know how to remove old linux images?
[08:00] <Flannel> vincenz: just remove them with the package manager
[08:00] <vincenz> (That are not listed in synaptic)
[08:00] <nekloksan> rm
[08:00] <vincenz> Flannel: It is not listed
[08:00] <Quintin> blind: what is there to know about VNC?
[08:00] <Flannel> vincenz: did you install it manually?
[08:01] <vincenz> Flannel: No I did not, but I'm betting it dates from breezy and I am now in edgy
[08:01] <Flannel> vincenz: then it's in there.  Check local/obsolete packages
[08:01] <cmatheson> the i810 manpage mentions a "MonitorLayout" option where the valid values are LFP,DFP,and TV.  what is an LFP?
[08:01] <JuiceBox> if i just compiled a program, and its name is just "ntwk" how do i run it
[08:01] <amonkey> how can i change my default oss device? my soundcard is /dev/dsp1 and i want it to be /dev/dsp
[08:01] <mneptok> *zing*
[08:01] <decirc> Hi people, is there anybody from ubuntu-fr here ? As on #ubuntu-fr no one seems awake...
[08:01] <ixian_> how do you access monitor power saving settings in ubuntu 6.06?
[08:01] <vincenz> Flannel: It is not there, I have even searched for "linux" ... It's not listed :/
[08:01] <azureal> Flannel, ah, the page you directed me to has the statement "[ubuntu-desktop]  is VITAL for apt to perform the upgrade successfully.
[08:01] <azureal> "
[08:01] <cherubiel> hello guys, didn't know where to ask this - is there a reiable version of sync.. since sync does not gurantee that all the file system buffers are written when it returns..though fsync does provide the guarantee its not possible to get a file descriptor for very open file on the system.
[08:01] <mneptok> decirc: c'est anglais seulement en cette canal.
[08:01] <Flannel> azureal: only for ubuntu, you should be fine, having no super-meta-package thing installed
[08:02] <Healot> !fr
[08:02] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:02] <blind> Quintin: how to set it up x_x. It keeps displaying on display 1 instead of 0, for no reason.  Also, all I'm getting is an xterm window and I don't know how to change it..
[08:02] <Flannel> cherubiel: might try in ##linux
[08:02] <Cartas> Finally, some people who might be able to help! :O
[08:02] <Quintin> blind: the client or server ?
[08:02] <mneptok> Cartas: where?!
[08:02] <JuiceBox> Hey Flannel, how do I run my program I compiled...
[08:02] <cherubiel> thanks Flannel
[08:02] <jbmigel> i have compaq laptop and suspend breaks it... probably because i formatted over their factory restore partition. is there a fix?
[08:02] <JuiceBox> its a.out   and  ntwk
[08:02] <vincenz> JuiceBox: ./a.out
[08:02] <JuiceBox> ahh ok
[08:02] <blind> Quintin: server. client, too. I can't connect to my server upstairs for some reason
[08:02] <JuiceBox> thanks
[08:03] <decirc> mneptok: It seems my last sentence was written in english ? I'm not looking for french speaking people, but someone who knows why the ubuntu-fr is not responding anymore...
[08:03] <Flannel> JuiceBox: that depends entirely on the program
[08:03] <Cartas> I recently installed Ubuntu, but my USB modem doesn't work, so I can't get on the net! I got this .deb file which apparently installs the modem, and a friend said I had to use a "dpkg -i eciadsl-usermode_0.11-1_i386.deb" command to install it.
[08:03] <Flannel> decirc: probably because theyre... all at work? or asleep? or something
[08:03] <nekloksan> i DO like my vagina!
[08:03] <vincenz> Flannel: The kernel (2.6.12-10) is not listed
[08:03] <mneptok> decirc: i do not know. have you asked on one of the .fr loco teams mailing lists?
[08:03] <blind> !ops
[08:03] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[08:03] <Cartas> When I tried it, I got an error about having to be a SuperUser, so I went to open Users & Groups, but it never loaded up... :(
[08:03] <nekloksan> vincenz, try sudo rm -rf /
[08:03] <decirc> The mailing list... where I forgot to ask, thanks for the tip...
[08:04] <Ransom1> Ok I have another question.  I have a folder on my desktop that I can't delete.  it says it's a directory and nothing I do will get rid of it.
[08:04] <jbmigel> vincenz dont do that
[08:04] <vincenz> nekloksan: go annoy someone else
[08:04] <mneptok> decirc: be aware, it is like 8am in Paris
[08:04] <jordan> vincenz, DO NOT DO THAT.
[08:04] <jbmigel> nekloksan you should be banned
[08:04] <Eleaf> hi
[08:04] <vincenz> jbmigel: I know ;:)
[08:04] <ardchoille> vincenz: Do *not* do that command
[08:04] <vincenz> I'm not a linux newb,
[08:04] <vincenz> Just not used to dealing with package managers
[08:04] <jbmigel> !ops
[08:04] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[08:04] <Sasuke> Ransom1 in terminal cd to ~/Desktop then do rm -Rf ./foldername/
[08:04] <cmatheson> Ransom1: what are you doing to get rid of it?
[08:04] <Eleaf> lol
[08:04] <nekloksan> !ops
[08:04] <Eleaf> Sasuke, stop
[08:04] <Eleaf> nekloksan, yeah. they get it.
[08:05] <Ransom1> sudo rm <folder name>
[08:05] <Eleaf> or, don't.
[08:05] <decirc> mneptok: I'm in Brussels.... :-) Same time...
[08:05] <Sasuke> that will get rid of a file try what i said
[08:05] <vincenz> Anyone know what exactly I have to remove to ensure I cleanly remove linux-image-2.6.12-10 and (most likely) linux-modules-2.6.12-10
[08:05] <Cartas> I recently installed Ubuntu, but my USB modem doesn't work, so I can't get on the net! I got this .deb file which apparently installs the modem, and a friend said I had to use a "dpkg -i eciadsl-usermode_0.11-1_i386.deb" command to install it.
[08:05] <Cartas> When I tried it, I got an error about having to be a SuperUser, so I went to open Users & Groups, but it never loaded up... :(
[08:05] <mneptok> decirc: Montreal here. i work the night sift. :/
[08:05] <mneptok> *shift
[08:05] <blind> all the ops are afk? x_x
[08:06] <Ransom1> cmatheson: sudo rm <3945>
[08:06] <Healot> !ops
[08:06] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[08:06] <Eleaf> I dunno Sasuke
[08:06] <adsfasdf> vincenz: use apt-get --purge remove <package> ?
[08:06] <Eleaf> Healot, lol
[08:06] <mneptok> Cartas: you want to put "sudo" (no quotes) at the beginning of that command
[08:06] <Sasuke> Eleaf i do it all the time
[08:06] <vincenz> asdf: The problem is that the package is non-existent for some reason
[08:06] <krumpet> Hullo, I have just installed windows after installing dapper, now GRUB wont load..... I am on the livecd at the moment, is there a way to reinstall grub into the mbr or whatever?!
[08:06] <Flannel> !tell krumpet about grub
[08:06] <Eleaf> uhm.
[08:06] <Flannel> krumpet: first link there ;)
[08:06] <Ransom1> sasuke: hmm... no luck
[08:06] <Eleaf> Sasuke, you do what? lol
[08:06] <Sasuke> Ransom1 try what i said
[08:06] <krumpet> cheers :0
[08:06] <jordan> krumpet, yes.
[08:06] <Sasuke> ok
[08:06] <Sasuke> umm
[08:06] <cmatheson> Ransom1: hmm, you may need to escape those '<' '>' ... try rm \<3945\> ... or maybe rm -- <3945>
[08:06] <Ransom1> sasuke: didn't work
[08:06] <Sasuke> did ya try sudo at the start
[08:07] <jordan> krumpet, Let me find a tutorial.
[08:07] <Eleaf> Sasuke, what are you trying to do?
[08:07] <mneptok> Ransom1: what are you trying to do?
[08:07] <Eleaf> to get them to do
[08:07] <Flannel> Ransom1: be careful with rm, do an ls [whatever]  first, to check to see what you're removing exactly
[08:07] <Eleaf> hehehe
[08:07] <Ransom1> cmatheson: I just put those there to show the folder name.  I didn't actually use them.  it says "cannot remove 3945: Is a directory"
[08:07] <cmatheson> Ransom1: oh, rm -r 3945 or rmdir 3945
[08:07] <AstralJava> For a directory, you need to use -r switch with rm.
[08:07] <Ransom1> mneptok: remove a folder I was trying to install earlier
[08:08] <mneptok> Ransom1: sudo rm -rf $name
[08:08] <jordan> krumpet, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:08] <Sasuke> mneptok told him to do that, apparently it doesn't work
[08:08] <Sasuke> but it works for me
[08:08] <azureal> Flannel,  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrad  just gives me a 404 not found error =/
[08:08] <Ransom1> mneptok: that worked...  yay thanks
[08:08] <Flannel> azureal: edgy repository is only on the main mirror until it's released officially, I believe.
[08:08] <azureal> Flannel, i think ubuntu-desktop is, in fact, required... i can't just change my sources and type that command to make it work
[08:09] <mneptok> azureal: check the contents of /etc/apt/sources.lst
[08:09] <Quintin> blind: can you telnet to the right port ?
[08:09] <Ransom1> mneptok: spent 8 hours today trying to install a 3945 driver to no avail.  No internet for me for awhile.
[08:09] <Flannel> azureal: no, it's not.  Since not everyone has ubuntu-desktop (like server people, etc)
[08:09] <decirc> mneptok: As I'm a Montreal lover, respect :-)
[08:09] <blind> Quintin: telnet? Lemme see.
[08:09] <Quintin> blind: PM me.  maybe I can help you tomorrow
[08:09] <mneptok> Ransom1: 3945 support can be touch and go. works fine in my Thinkpad, though with no extra software or twiddling.
[08:10] <azureal> Flannel, ok, what do you mean by "main" mirror
[08:10] <amonkey> how do i show where links go?
[08:10] <Flannel> azureal: archive.ubuntu.com, I believe.  You'd have to ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:10] <mneptok> amonkey: symlinks?
[08:10] <azureal> ok, *asking*
[08:10] <amonkey> mneptok, yeah
[08:10] <cmatheson> this tv-out on my dell laptop (i810) is pretty tricky... i've tried various approaches, but the most luck i've had is getting a small, monochrome, flickering display on the TV ... does anyone have any experience w/ tv-out on the i810 chipset?
[08:10] <mneptok> amonkey: ls -l $symlink_name
[08:10] <zoidberg> so whats the story guys....EDGY out in four days?
[08:10] <amonkey> thanks
[08:11] <krumpet> jordan, I am have a little trouble understanding the lines 4 and 5 in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-bf3232f10ddf1b078de064622ccbb25225cdb3c0 ...
[08:11] <Flannel> zoidberg: no.  the 28th
[08:11] <Ransom1> mneptok: I just don't know what I'm doing wrong.  I can't actually get through any of the how to's that are posted because none of them actually are consistent with their own files.  I'm not smart enough yet to know where I need to make subtle changes
[08:11] <mneptok> zoidberg: bit longer than that
[08:11] <ardchoille> zoidberg: I believe it's due out on the 26th
[08:11] <Ransom1> mneptok: apparently my machine recognizes the card too, it just can't initialize it.  at least as near as I can figure
[08:11] <mneptok> Ransom1: have you tried just using it without tweaking anything?
[08:11] <zoidberg> oh man...did it get pushed back...i could have sworn it was the 10th...
[08:11] <mneptok> Ransom1: are you trying to connect to a WPA-enable WAP?
[08:12] <mon^rch> will changing the permissions of an NTFS drive to rw cause any ill effects, and will it remove the "lock" from my icons???
[08:12] <Eleaf> Sasuke, sorry ;P
[08:12] <Ransom1> mneptok: correct.  However, it doesn't even allow me to open the wireless program because it can't see the card well enough
[08:12] <Flannel> mon^rch: You can't mount NTFS read/write, it'll still be read only, ad still have the locks.
[08:12] <Ransom1> mneptok: the gui says "no wireless devices have been found"
[08:12] <mon^rch> ok, ty
[08:13] <mneptok> Ransom1: you'll need network-manager-gnome for WPA. the regular GNOME interface for wireless settings has no concept of WPA.
[08:13] <Ransom1> mneptok: I haven't tried reformatting, it's always possible that I didn't have the button on correctly, first day owning the notebook
[08:13] <mon^rch> I wasnt looking for rw support... only to remove the lock icon :-(
[08:13] <Ransom1> mneptok: yeah I installed one.  I thought that would do it but I don't think it can turn on the card.  like i said, it says no wireless adaptor found
[08:13] <Sasuke> Eleaf what is the sorry for?
[08:13] <mneptok> Ransom1: you might want to re-install to get a fresh start, and install network-manager-gnome as the first thing you try.
[08:13] <decirc> so dears.. I'm going to work.. have a nice day
[08:14] <mneptok> Ransom1: who made the laptop?
[08:14] <Ransom1> mneptok: think it helps if I leave the wireless button on while installing?
[08:14] <krumpet> jordan I don't quite understand what numbers to use
[08:14] <bl4cktone> Hey guys how do I write stuff to my external USB hardrive?  I can read stuff but can't write anything to it.
[08:14] <mneptok> Ransom1: definitely
[08:14] <ArrenLex> bl4cktone: how are you mounting it?
[08:14] <Ransom1> mneptok: it's an MSI 1057.  Technically it's made by Cyberpower, but all they put in it was the wireless and hard drive
[08:14] <mneptok> bl4cktone: fix permissions on the mount point
[08:14] <Flannel> krumpet: they're harddrive/partition numbers.  0,0 is hda1, 0,1 is hda2, 1,0 is hdb1, etc
[08:14] <Eleaf> Sasuke, I said "stop" out of a random act.
[08:14] <Eleaf> ;p
[08:14] <czer323> Is there any reason why Gparted woudln't be seeing my sata drives in raid using dmraid?
[08:14] <mneptok> Cyberpower in Cali?
[08:14] <bl4cktone> Sorry guys I'm a nub, don't know anything about mounting
[08:15] <Sasuke> oh ok ;)
[08:15] <Ransom1> mneptok: correct
[08:15] <ArrenLex> bl4cktone: so you plug in this hard drive. What happens then?
[08:15] <mneptok> Ransom1: hehehe, my gf bought a machine from them in 1999 that is now my home server :)
[08:15] <Ransom1> mneptok: they didn't even know it has bluetooth in it.  They tried to tell me it didn't but sure enough the OEM does, they just didn't know how to activate it
[08:16] <bl4cktone> ArrenLex: I can read my documents, programs, and pr0n but can't move anything to it
[08:16] <Ransom1> mneptok: 1.8 core duo 2, 80g hd, 2g ram, wireless, all that jaz for only $1200ish in the 12" form factor.  Can't go wrong there
[08:16] <mneptok> Ransom1: now *that's* confidence-building :/
[08:16] <ArrenLex> bl4cktone: what kind of porn?
[08:16] <ArrenLex> bl4cktone: no, wait, that's not helpful. How do you mount it?
[08:16] <mneptok> bl4cktone: please open a terminal
[08:16] <Ransom1> mneptok: now if only I could get wireless to work...  yeah I'll try reinstalling.  it didn't take long and wasn't that painful
[08:16] <RiskyB> hello, i'm new here. may I post a question here?
[08:16] <ArrenLex> bl4: do you get a screen from gnome telling you a hard drive was detected?
[08:16] <mneptok> RiskyB: you just did
[08:16] <bl4cktone> ArrenLex: Just plug the USB in and it just auto detects the drive
[08:17] <Sasuke> mneptok was about to say that
[08:17] <Ransom1> mneptok: it's possible I didn't have the wireless card on.  Took me awhile to figure out that the blue light = wifi, the green light = bluetooth, and the torquoise light = both
[08:17] <mon^rch> lol quit msg
[08:17] <bl4cktone> ArrenLex: Ok done
[08:18] <ArrenLex> That was mneptok's advice. He can help you; I don't know where to go from here. Not familiar with gnome.
[08:18] <bl4cktone> ArrenLex: They are labled "New Volume" and "usbdisk" it's got 2 partisions
[08:18] <mneptok> bl4cktone: terminal open?
[08:19] <bl4cktone> Mneptok yes
[08:19] <RiskyB> I've downloaded the AMD64 iso by mistake on 56k dialup. Is there any way to that I may download certail files and replace them in the iso for my x86?
[08:19] <Quintin> I'm going to bed bie
[08:19] <Quintin> RiskyB: AAAAAAAAAHAHAHA.  AHWUWhAHABUWHAHAHAHAHAH
[08:19] <Quintin> RiskyB: you = sux
[08:20] <Quintin> RiskyB: Want me to mail you some CDs?
[08:20] <RiskyB> would love some cd's   took a few days to d/l
[08:20] <bl4cktone> Mneptok: Just right click on it as well and am looking at Permissions GUI, but I got the terminal up as well
[08:20] <soundmaster80> I have just mounted a hard drive through command line. Is there a command i can give to check the disk usage on it?
[08:20] <mneptok> bl4cktone: in the temrinal "df -h" no quotes
[08:21] <ZeeToo> anyone can tell me how can i use oidentd thingie, when i connect to x-chat it changes automatically my identd, this is my first question and my second one is how can I remove ~ (identd) from whois ?
[08:21] <oblio_> hi all... i'm new here. may I post a question here?
[08:21] <bl4cktone> mneptok: done
[08:21] <Quintin> RiskyB: Send me a PM.
[08:21] <mneptok> bl4cktone: please paste the output of that into a PM to me
[08:21] <Sasuke> oblio_ you just did
[08:21] <Terminus> RiskyB: register your nick first. you can't send Quintin a PM if you don't register.
[08:22] <RiskyB> k thks
[08:22] <ZeeToo> anyone can help me ?
[08:22] <ZeeToo> please
[08:22] <Quintin> RiskyB: /msg nickserv register <password> ; /msg nickserv identify <password>  (I think)
[08:22] <Terminus> !register > RiskyB
[08:22] <chemaja>  /msg nickserv help
[08:22] <oblio_> pls a how-to for totem 1.4.1/xine-lib version 1.1.1-has no sound !
[08:23] <Sasuke> !sound > Sasuke
[08:23] <Terminus> whoops... i ubotu thinks i'm asking for registering with the bot, not nickserv. >_<
[08:23] <Gasten> Oh my god! I just pressed something in firefox, and now it defaults to be right-aligned! Even the scrollbar is on the right side!
[08:23] <Gasten> Can someone help me?
[08:23] <ArrenLex> The scrollbar is on the right side?!
[08:24] <ArrenLex> *horror* unprecedented!
[08:24] <Sasuke> No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found. -------- does anyone else get that error?
[08:24] <kraut> moin
[08:25] <Healot> !find gstreamer
[08:25] <ubotu> Found: gstreamer0.10-doc, gstreamer0.10-esd, gstreamer0.10-plugins-good, gstreamer0.10-plugins-good-dbg, gstreamer0.10-plugins-good-doc (and 82 others)
[08:25] <Healot> moin
[08:25] <Ademan> my printer pushes everything over to one side and stuff gets cut off, whats the deal?
[08:25] <Healot> you nned those gstreamer plugin or resort to xine codecs/plugins
[08:25] <Sasuke> Healot so apt-get install them?
[08:25] <Quintin> RiskyB: I'm going to bed HURRY
[08:25] <Sasuke> or what
[08:26] <Healot> yes, what else :)
[08:26] <Gasten> Ah.. I found it now..
[08:26] <Sasuke> and whaqt about the other 82
[08:27] <Geoffrey2> lesse, if I want to mount a partition in another folder, I'd use the mount command...does that need to be run every time I start the computer, or is there a way to make the link permanent?
[08:27] <oblio_> tnx all...by!
[08:27] <mneptok> Geoffrey2: /etc/fstab
[08:28] <Quintin> RiskyB: send me an email qmriis@gmail.com
[08:28] <RiskyB> Quintin: are you still here? it's been a few years sive done mirc
[08:28] <RiskyB> k
[08:28] <Quintin> RiskyB: yes I'm here.
[08:29] <Quintin> RiskyB: send me an email
[08:29] <Sasuke> mirc is easy to use
[08:29] <Quintin> mirc is useless sh*t
[08:29] <RiskyB> got your email will do
[08:29] <Quintin> :)
[08:29] <Quintin> good night!
[08:29] <Sasuke> i find maalox_ alright if ya can do the scripting
[08:30] <Sasuke> bahhh
[08:30] <Sasuke> i find mirc alright if ya can do the scripting
[08:30] <Sasuke> !gstreamer > sasuke
[08:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <Sasuke> gstreamer0.10-doc, gstreamer0.10-esd, gstreamer0.10-plugins-good, gstreamer0.10-plugins-good-dbg, gstreamer0.10-plugins-good-doc
[08:31] <Sasuke> all them are installed, still get same error
[08:33] <Hypereia> I'm back!
[08:33] <Hypereia> Running xchat-gnome
[08:33] <Healot> !find gstreamer mad ugly
[08:33] <ubotu> Found: gstreamer0.10-doc, gstreamer0.10-esd, gstreamer0.10-plugins-good, gstreamer0.10-plugins-good-dbg, gstreamer0.10-plugins-good-doc (and 82 others)
[08:33] <Sasuke> Healot i got them installed except the 82 others
[08:33] <Healot> wt... better use synaptic or apt-cache
[08:34] <Sasuke> ok
[08:34] <Healot> Sasuke, you need gstreamer * with ugly or mad in it
[08:34] <onorin> ubuntu rocks!
[08:34] <Healot> or switch to xine codecs
[08:35] <Healot> installing totem-xine will solve that
[08:35] <Healot> but remember to enabled your universe and multiverse section of dapper repos first
[08:35] <Hypereia> !ATI
[08:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:35] <ArrenLex> Hyperia: are you having problems with ati drivers?
[08:39] <ixian_> how do i access monitor power savings settings in ubuntu 6.06/
[08:40] <winterweaver> !mp3
[08:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:40] <AstralJava> ixian_: Not on a Dapper box right now, but wasn't there some "Energy saving settings" in System > Preferences?
[08:40] <AWOSDev> Ah!  My computer is, for lack of a better term, disintegrating, right before my very eyes!  Files are randomly missing, and I couldn't get Konversation or GAIM up, so I'm in IRSSI.
[08:41] <AWOSDev> What could be going on?
[08:41] <ArrenLex> AWOSDev: Uh... save what data you may?
[08:41] <ixian_> oh you are right.. dont know how i didnt see that
[08:41] <ixian_> thanks
[08:41] <AWOSDev> I know but what's going on?
[08:41] <onorin> AWOSDev, just back up your home folder
[08:41] <AstralJava> ixian_: No prob. :) Happens to me all the time.
[08:42] <ArrenLex> AWOS: is it old? It might just be dying. Is this Linux-only or is another OS on the computer (if there is one) also acting up? Did you change any settings?
[08:42] <AWOSDev> To what?  My CD burner conveinitly(sp?) died just last week.
[08:42] <onorin> can you connect to internet ?
[08:42] <AWOSDev> No, 2003.  New HD from 2005.  Linux/Windows dual-boot.
[08:42] <onorin> you could upload the files to internet
[08:42] <onorin> say gmail
[08:43] <AWOSDev> onorin, if I couldn't connect to the Internet, I couldn't be talking to you right now :)
[08:43] <onorin> AWOSDev, may be you are in a differenct computer
[08:43] <AWOSDev> Well it's weird, because it doesn't appear in ls * or the 'Open File' box, but if I type the file name in it *is* there.
[08:43] <onorin> AWOSDev, for the worst case, zip your homefolder, and send a mail to your gmail account
[08:43] <AWOSDev> I might be able to scp to my work computer.
[08:44] <Hypereia> !ia32-libs
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ia32-libs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <Hypereia> This guide refers to the 32bit version of the driver. The installation procedure for 64bit should be the same as for 32bit, except the filenames of the created .deb packages will differ slightly and you have to install the ia32-libs package which can be done with apt-get or synaptic.
[08:44] <Hypereia> Where do I get those libs?
[08:44] <AWOSDev> !info ia32-libs
[08:44] <ubotu> Package ia32-libs does not exist in any distro I know
[08:44] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, don't know.  Is this for Ubuntu or Debian?
[08:45] <Hypereia> Ubuntu
[08:45] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, then I have no clue.
[08:45] <AWOSDev> Oh and more about my problem: every time I click the Open button on say OpenOffice or something, more files disappear.
[08:45] <Hypereia> Hoping to upgrade 8.25.18 -> 8.29.6, for fglrx video driver
[08:46] <AWOSDev> But they are still there if I type the name is.
[08:46] <AWOSDev> s/is/in
[08:46] <ZeeToo> anyone can tell me how can i use oidentd thingie, when i connect to x-chat it changes automatically my ident, this is my first question and my second one is how can I remove ~ (identd) from whois ? please
[08:47] <AWOSDev> Is there any bug or something for this?
[08:47] <AWOSDev> I mean, do I have to do a *very painful* reinstall?
[08:47] <AWOSDev> or is there something I did to it?
[08:48] <AWOSDev> I've just been in KolourPaint drawing road signs (yes I said drawing road signs)
[08:48] <AWOSDev> And I went to open I-95 Exit 21 and it was gone.
[08:48] <AWOSDev> Along with Exit 20 which I am looking at right now.
[08:48] <AWOSDev> So the file exists, it's just not showing up in directory listings.
[08:49] <Hypereia> AWOSDev: This is okay for Ubuntu? http://packages.debian.org/stable/libs/ia32-libs
[08:49] <Hypereia> http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=amd64&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fi%2Fia32-libs%2Fia32-libs_1.4_amd64.deb&md5sum=2dbaced970fac9a55c40e5ce7d5049c4&arch=amd64&type=unofficial
[08:49] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, uh, I'm not sure.
[08:49] <Hypereia> Hmm.
[08:50] <Hypereia> If I do the installation without adding those libraries, could there be fatal errors?
[08:51] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, you can try installing those libs, but uh, they kinda look like they're for true Debian systems only.  I don't know what they would do to an Ubuntu system.  Give it a shot, worse case scenario, you probably have a recent backup.
[08:51] <Hypereia> AWOSDev: I'm going by this
[08:51] <Hypereia> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_8.28.8_drivers_in_Ubuntu_Dapper_Manually
[08:51] <Ransom1> hey guys, real quick, I forgot the name of the best app to load for WPA networks on a Gnome GUI
[08:51] <AWOSDev> Ransom1, wlassistant?
[08:51] <Hypereia> If you could read over it, I'd be appreciative.
[08:51] <Ransom1> awdsdev: yeah I think that was it...
[08:52] <mneptok> Ransom1: network-manager-gnome
[08:52] <Hypereia> Method 2, in particular.
[08:52] <Hypereia> That's the one in question.
[08:52] <Ransom1> mneptok: or that...lol.  Or both?
[08:52] <mneptok> Ransom1: network-manager-gnome ;)
[08:52] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, yeah that's fine.  But right now my exit signs are disappearing before my eyes and I'd like to tar/bzip them up first.  :)
[08:52] <Ransom1> mneptok: where to find actually.. is it in the add/remove programs?
[08:52] <Hypereia> Heheh.
[08:53] <mneptok> Ransom1: Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[08:53] <Hypereia> Sort of lost me on that last comment, flew right over my head.
[08:53] <Ransom1> mneptok: ubuntu
[08:53] <mneptok> Ransom1: it's in Synaptic
[08:53] <mneptok> Ransom1: System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[08:54] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, scroll up a little.  My home directory is disappearing.  So I need to backup my ~ before it's all gone.
[08:54] <MasterChef> Hello :D, gparted just kind of blanked my hard drive. Advice?
[08:55] <Hypereia> Scratch that, I found this. http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/warty/source/ia32-libs
[08:55] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, that'll work too :)
[08:55] <Hypereia> Sorry AWOSDev, I won't keep you occupied.
[08:55] <hazexp> MasterChef: Define "blanked"
[08:55] <sakitel> hello
[08:55] <Ransom1> mneptok: cool, I've never used packet manager thingie
[08:56] <sakitel> I have a proble whe i try to install cacti by synaptic
[08:56] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, that's okay.
[08:56] <sakitel> I have a problem whe i try to install cacti by synaptic
[08:56] <AWOSDev> Oh censored.
[08:56] <MasterChef> "Couldn't read from partition table". fsck complains and scripts won't allow the system to actually boot. I'm on a livecd right now, and cfdisk returns all 40 gigs of freespace.
[08:56] <mneptok> Ransom1: i *think* network-manager-gnome is in Main, so you shouldn't have to enable extra repos. scream if Synaptic doesn't show you that app on a search by name.
[08:56] <sakitel> it say ...dbconfig-common will now attempt to load the pre-existing settings of cacti.  Later, these settings will be validated, and if there is any problem with loading or using them you will be given the option to enter them again later.
[08:56] <KeithWeisshar> what's the official release date for ubuntu 6.10
[08:56] <Healot> !find network-manager
[08:56] <ubotu> Found: knetworkmanager, network-manager, network-manager-dbg, network-manager-dev, network-manager-gnome (and 1 others)
[08:56] <MasterChef> ;|. I'm thinking I should dd the whole thing, but I'll need a friend with a server wouldn't I?
[08:56] <Hypereia> Thank you for the support, AWOSDev. I'm a real Linux newbie.
[08:57] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, :)
[08:57] <Healot> !info network-manager-gnom
[08:57] <ubotu> Package network-manager-gnom does not exist in any distro I know
[08:57] <Healot> !info network-manager-gnome
[08:57] <ubotu> network-manager-gnome: network management framework (GNOME Frontend). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.2-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 234 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[08:57] <AWOSDev> Okay okay I have 148M free which is not enough to make a bzipped tarball of my home directory.
[08:57] <AWOSDev> Any more ideas?
[08:57] <MasterChef> I'll come back during a peak hour =|.
[08:58] <Ransom1> mneptok: not sure what to do now.  I installed it but I can't see any changes
[08:58] <AWOSDev> can anybody please help me?
[08:58] <Hypereia> I've gotten a few of my college classmates to use Ubuntu, now all we need is for them to spread the word. ;-)
[08:58] <mneptok> Ransom1: logout and back in
[08:58] <jordan> I just installed mouseemu and now my cursor doesn't move.
[08:58] <mneptok> Ransom1: you should see nifty widget in the top right
[08:58] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, I top that, I'm giving one of my friends my old Ubuntu box for a bday present :)
[08:58] <Hypereia> You see, I'm taking up Network Administration, this is my first run-in with Linux. Funny eh?
[08:58] <Ransom1> mneptok: yup sure do.  I had that last time too... can't remembre where I got it
[08:58] <mneptok> Ransom1: it should allow you to connect to any wireless newtorks it detects
[08:59] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, oh my, starting with Linux.
[08:59] <Hypereia> Windows has become so mainsteam, that other OS's are pretty much foreshadowed.
[08:59] <Ransom1> mneptok: oh dude... I think it's working
[08:59] <Hypereia> I am becoming to despise windows, in particular.
[08:59] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, me too :)
[08:59] <mneptok> Ransom1: that's why they pay me the big bucks :)
[09:00] <Hypereia> The only reason I would choose to even have Windows on my system, is to dual boot for Gaming.
[09:00] <Hypereia> But then, there is Wine, right?
[09:00] <mneptok> Hypereia: get an XBox
[09:00] <Hypereia> Emulates API calls, for games?
[09:00] <winterweaver> or Cadera
[09:00] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, I only have Windows on my computer to get my NTFS files off :)
[09:00] <Hypereia> Or anything really.
[09:00] <Ransom1> mneptok: lol... don't get too excited... still searching.  But it didn't bug out and say no adaptor found this time!
[09:00] <Hypereia> Yeah.
[09:00] <mneptok> gaming + WINE = not good idea
[09:00] <Hypereia> I'm dual booting Ubuntu and XP Media Center currently.
[09:00] <winterweaver> I used to have win for the exact same reason
[09:00] <AstralJava> winterweaver: Don't you mean Cedega?
[09:00] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, if you are a hardcore gamer try Cedega.
[09:01] <Hypereia> I've used linux in the past, but very very little. And it was a bit painful.
[09:01] <winterweaver> AstraLJava: oops
[09:01] <winterweaver> ^_^
[09:01] <AWOSDev> AstralJava, no he means Windows.
[09:01] <winterweaver> lmao
[09:01] <Hypereia> Redhat, an old version.
[09:01] <hazexp> KeithWeissher: October 26 is the intended release date for Ubuntu 6.10 "Edgy Eft"
[09:01] <jordan> AWOSDev, If you really want to support Cedega...
[09:01] <Ransom1> mneptok: lol, man the never ending saga.  So now it lets me go through the whole "create network" stuff and plug in all my values, but it doesn't actually connect.  That's cool, I can deal with that, but does it mean that my wireless card is actually working?
[09:01] <Hypereia> I've just upgraded the pc a bit, been playing Matrix Online.
[09:01] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, yeah RedHat is harder.
[09:01] <winterweaver> nah... I don't have win on ne more
[09:02] <AWOSDev> jordan, personally, I don't even have it :P
[09:02] <AWOSDev> but a couple people I know do and have fun with it
[09:02] <Hypereia> Well, at that time I was a bit more naive and impatient. Now I more or less "have" to learn Linux if I hope to stay competitive in the job market.
[09:02] <mneptok> Ransom1: it *should* find access points if you have them set up. you can find out what network interfaces the machine knows about with "ifconfig" (no quotes) in a terminal
[09:02] <Hypereia> You know what I mean?
[09:02] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, wow, and I learned Linux just to have fun...now I can get $$$ for knowing it :)
[09:02] <hazexp> RedHat is harder for new users, although the RPM system is similar to apt-get in many ways
[09:02] <Hypereia> LOL.
[09:02] <hazexp> lol, nice AWOS
[09:03] <jordan> AWOSDev, I am just not a fan of them stealing wines code and charging money for it but that is offtopic :)
[09:03] <hazexp> Who do you work for?
[09:03] <Hypereia> Commedy gold, right there folks.
[09:03] <Hypereia> I'm a student currently.
[09:03] <mneptok> sabdfl++
[09:03] <AWOSDev> hazexp, for myself right now.  but thinking about getting a job, I could potentally $200K/year for knowing all I know.
[09:04] <AWOSDev> C++/Assembler/Perl/PHP/SQL
[09:04] <Hypereia> Ubuntu, in my eyes, makes the transition from a Windows platform to Linux, much less painful.
[09:04] <ubuntu_> hi room
[09:04] <Hypereia> And really, why make things harder than they have to be?
[09:04] <jordan> I just installed mouseemu and now my cursor doesn't move.
[09:04] <AWOSDev> Hi ubuntu_!
[09:04] <ubuntu_> need some info on iptables
[09:04] <hazexp> AWOSDev, that's a nice, varied selection of languages you know
[09:04] <Ransom1> mneptok: doesn't look good...  eth0 is my 10/100.  eth1 doesn't actually mention a 3945 anywhere, and who knows what lo is
[09:04] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev:hi
[09:04] <Hypereia> You start small, Ubuntu, and work your way up the chain.
[09:04] <AWOSDev> hazexp, yep.
[09:04] <ubuntu_> any1 played with iptables on ubuntu?
[09:04] <Hypereia> That's my viewpoint on it.
[09:04] <mneptok> Ransom1: lo is the loopback interface present on all Unix systems
[09:04] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, when I started with iptables I liked fwbuilder.
[09:05] <AWOSDev> uses a GUI
[09:05] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev:  i never chked it out
[09:05] <ubuntu_> problem that i'm facing is
[09:05] <mneptok> Ransom1: eth1 may be there, but not configured. my laptop currently does not show my wired interface, simply because it has no connection
[09:05] <Hypereia> iptables, I've heard of that. Is it a shell application used to configure firewall settings?
[09:05] <hazexp> Firestarter is a nice GUI too
[09:05] <ubuntu_> i wana block icmp
[09:05] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, no it *is* the firewall :)
[09:05] <ubuntu_> i add a rule to it as soon as i restart , setting is gone?
[09:05] <Hypereia> Oh, I see!
[09:05] <Ransom1> mneptok: eth1 should be my wifi, and it says "link encap: Ethernet  HWaddr 00:18:DE:11:e0:2B UPBROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 etc...
[09:05] <ubuntu_> this happens only on ubuntu
[09:05] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, yeah same problem.  personally I just made a shell script.
[09:05] <Hypereia> *duh*
[09:06] <hazexp> lol
[09:06] <wrabbit> Anybody tried edgy yet?
[09:06] <mneptok> Ransom1: right. it's there, but has no IP info yet (as it has yet to contact a DHCP server)
[09:06] <SpComb> `iptables` is the program that you use to access the kernel's firewall/routing stack
[09:06] <jordan> wrabbit, Running it right now.
[09:06] <AWOSDev> !iptables
[09:06] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) For more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[09:06] <wrabbit> jordan: Going strong?
[09:06] <AstralJava> wrabbit: I'm currently on it. Wanna chat about it? Go #ubuntu+1, we're there. :)
[09:06] <Hypereia> My assignment, or homework rather, is to find out how to set up a Linux pc to act as a firewall for a Windows Domain.
[09:06] <ubuntu_> lol the dude is posting its MAC address in irc chat room
[09:06] <Hypereia> I ask, is this even practical, yet possible?
[09:07] <Ransom1> mneptok: I'm still inclined to think the drivers are my problem though...  my other computers connect to my wireless no problem, so I doubt it's anything outside the Ubuntu system
[09:07] <wrabbit> AstralJava, Might pop in a little later.  I'm just curious.
[09:07] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, Samba.
[09:07] <chandan> hi , How to build ubuntu custom cd
[09:07] <Hypereia> Samba. Ok, I'll look into it.
[09:07] <ubuntu_> Hypereia:  it is possible
[09:07] <Hypereia> Thanks.
[09:07] <AstralJava> wrabbit: Sure thing. Just ask if you got something on your mind.
[09:07] <jordan> wrabbit, Yeh, it's actually more stable than Dapper for me ( better hardware support )
[09:07] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, I run a (simulated) Windows NT Domain via Samba.
[09:07] <Hypereia> Thank you for pointing me in the right direction.
[09:07] <ubuntu_> !samba
[09:07] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:07] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, actually apt-get samba-doc
[09:07] <hazexp> Hyperiea: A nice one to use that's custom built for the job is IPCop Firewall www.ipcop.org
[09:07] <Hypereia> The domain is based on a 2003 server.
[09:08] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, that is not currently supported.
[09:08] <wrabbit> AstralJava, Will do, thanks
[09:08] <SpComb> ubuntu_: what's wrong with that?
[09:08] <ubuntu_> Hypereia:  should be np
[09:08] <Hypereia> Cool.
[09:08] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, it can only emulate NT domains.  It can join a 2003 domain but cannot act as a 2003 domain controller.  That feature is being implemented in Samba 4.
[09:08] <ubuntu_> SpComb:  with?
[09:08] <XZEKUTION> whoever it was that helped me fix my Ubuntu & WinXP clocks from messing each other up, Thanks. It worked ! :)
[09:08] <SpComb> ubuntu_: posting your MAC
[09:08] <Hypereia> !apt
[09:08] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[09:08] <wrabbit> jordan: Interesting.  What're you running it on?
[09:08] <Hypereia> Oh.
[09:08] <Hypereia> I see now.
[09:08] <ubuntu_> SpComb:  i dont think it should be done
[09:09] <jordan>  wrabbit macbook pro
[09:09] <Hypereia> I used it before, but wasn't sure what the acronym stood for.
[09:09] <AWOSDev> Hypereia :)
[09:09] <AWOSDev> So does anybody know why files are disappearing from the Open box but not the FS?
[09:09] <wrabbit> jordan: Ah, that explains it :) Glad to here it's working out.
[09:09] <AWOSDev> I did an "ls -ld *" and found all my files.
[09:10] <AWOSDev> Just not in the Open File boxes (e.g. in OpenOffice)
[09:10] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev:  try ls -al?
[09:10] <Hypereia> Using windows for so long, I feel some of my brain cells were fried.
[09:10] <Hypereia> Linix is like an awakening.
[09:10] <Corporal_Dirge> Anyone else have issues with Nautilus crashing when viewing a folder with .swf files?
[09:10] <Hypereia> Oxygen for my brain-cells.
[09:10] <ubuntu_> Hypereia:  i agree
[09:10] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, yeah they show up there too
[09:10] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, yeah.  Even my Grandma uses Linux, she hates Windows too :)
[09:10] <ubuntu_> Corporal_Dirge: nope me
[09:10] <Hypereia> Lol!
[09:10] <ubuntu_> use firefox to open .swf file
[09:11] <Hypereia> What
[09:11] <hazexp> Hypereia, I know the feeling, I am what you would call a "power user" when it comes to Windows, I simply became bored with it and switched to Linux
[09:11] <Hypereia> Err...
[09:11] <ubuntu_> make sure flash plugin is installed
[09:11] <Corporal_Dirge> Not open them. Just browing through a folder.
[09:11] <Hypereia> What's next, if we get the Soccer Moms using Linux, we'll REALLY be in buisness.
[09:11] <Hypereia> ;-)
[09:11] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, LOL
[09:11] <hazexp> AWOSDev: Cool Grandma, lol
[09:11] <imme> So I open an application in my gnome session(kubuntu-install) and the window appears but disappears immediately as well... Is it possible to start apps from another tty?
[09:11] <AWOSDev> hazexp, yep :)
[09:11] <ubuntu_> lol@grandma
[09:12] <Hypereia> I'm still laughing out loud, in real life...over that one.
[09:12] <hazexp> My Grandma is confused by the concept of Gameboys :S
[09:12] <ubuntu_> so anyways
[09:12] <ubuntu_> any other way
[09:12] <ubuntu_> let me chk fwbuilder
[09:13] <holycow> Hypereia, its easier to get soccermoms to use linux than soccer dads infact
[09:13] <jordan> Has anyone else here even heard of mouseemu or should I give up?
[09:13] <AWOSDev> "Ubuntu is so easy, my dad can do it!"  <- has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?  :)
[09:13] <Hypereia> hazexp: Definitely, I've been there, tweaking services, startup apps, registry, etc. It's amazing how much you must do just to make windows perform mediocrely.
[09:13] <Hypereia> Sorry for the delayed comment.
[09:13] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev: lol it does
[09:13] <ubuntu_> could be add campaign for ubuntu
[09:13] <ubuntu_> heh
[09:14] <holycow> Hypereia, that is far more true than most people want to admit
[09:14] <holycow> windows is a ton of work to maintain
[09:14] <bz0b> anyone here use xboard? if so can someone tell me what "Failed to start first chess program gnuchessx:gnuchessx:No such file or directory" means?
[09:14] <AWOSDev> Can anybody help me with disappearing Open box files?
[09:14] <Hypereia> Sister has a P4 2.8(or so), 512 MB DDR, and XP sludges...I mean, wtf?
[09:14] <ubuntu_> bz0b:  install gnuchess
[09:14] <imme> So no-one who can help me?
[09:14] <Hypereia> You know an OS sucks when it sludges on those specs.
[09:14] <AWOSDev> Hypereia, I honestly see no difference between my 500MHz and my 1.6GHz
[09:15] <ubuntu_> XP means Xtra pain dude
[09:15] <bz0b> so when is 6.10 coming out?
[09:15] <Hypereia> Agreed.
[09:15] <AWOSDev> 500 has 192M, 1600 has 494M
[09:15] <holycow> Hypereia, the truely cruel thing about windows is that even if maintained, over the period of a year, the thing will just slow down anyway
[09:15] <jordan> imme is it a problem with all applications?
[09:15] <imme> jordan: yes it is.
[09:15] <Hypereia> I'm on a Pentium D 2.8, I was a bit adventurous and installed the AMD64_Generic Ubuntu, things going great so far.
[09:15] <ubuntu_> any1 tried zenwalk?
[09:15] <ubuntu_> it is nice OS too
[09:16] <jordan> imme, Have you tried running the programs from the terminal to see any errors / output?
[09:16] <bz0b> does anyone know what the new ubuntu release will come out
[09:16] <ubuntu_> i had it dual booting with ubuntu
[09:16] <hazexp> Zenwalk is a nice XFCE distro, I like it
[09:16] <AWOSDev> I hate to sound like a careless noob, but *please* help me!
[09:16] <ubuntu_> hazexp:  pretty fast eh?
[09:16] <jordan> bz0b, 6.10
[09:16] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev:  with?
[09:16] <imme> jordan: Also in failsafe, but in failsafe my dekstop and my top and bottom bars DO appear while as in normal gnome session th horizontal bars just flash for a while with nothing on them and then they dissappear and I am left with a almost blank screen.
[09:16] <bz0b> jordan: so like today
[09:16] <holycow> AWOSDev, what the hell are dissapearing openbox files?
[09:17] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, when I click the "open" button in OpenOffice, or KolourPaint, or any other program for that matter, files are disappearing.
[09:17] <AWOSDev> Every time I click the "open" button another file disappears.
[09:17] <Hypereia> holycow: Yeah, normal file defrags don't seem to be enough. When the registry get's defragged is when things get really messy.
[09:17] <bz0b> or does it mean it by US standards
[09:17] <hazexp> ubuntu_: yes, I liked it, minimal to start off with, but supported most programming languages for development work
[09:17] <AWOSDev> But I can ls and they're all there.
[09:17] <holycow> AWOSDev, what do you mean dissapear?
[09:17] <jordan> bzob, no, the releases follow year.month.
[09:17] <Hypereia> I've actually resorted to using a 3rd party defrag tool, to use better defrag methods causing files to fragment slower than normal.
[09:17] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, they are not in the file list, even with a *.* mask
[09:17] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev: that means they are disapeariing they r just hidden to u
[09:18] <hazexp> bz0b: Ubuntu 6.10 "Edgy Eft" will be released October 26th
[09:18] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev: do u have file perm. for it?
[09:18] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, in my home folder, and yes.
[09:18] <Hypereia> Err, I meant fragmented registery.
[09:18] <bz0b> hazexp: thank you
[09:18] <Hypereia> Bit tired, had night class.
[09:18] <holycow> AWOSDev, when you start up nautilus, does IT show files?
[09:18] <totall_6_7> AWOSDev: if you go to the dirctory/folder outside of the program you are using, are the files still there
[09:18] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev:  chk ownership
[09:18] <ubuntu_> try this
[09:18] <imme> jordan: Speedcrunch does work though... I can not start from terminal since I cannot open the terminal and in another tty it gives me the error cannot open display.
[09:18] <ubuntu_> press ctrl+o to oen file
[09:18] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, not sure.
[09:19] <AWOSDev> totall_6_7 nope even in other folders
[09:19] <ubuntu_> open*
[09:19] <bz0b> hazexp: does anyone know if the intel pro wireless 3945 will work off the bat in edgy?
[09:19] <AWOSDev> this is what it looks like:
[09:19] <AWOSDev> -rw-r--r--  1 awilcox awilcox  17245 2006-10-06 02:11 I-95 NS Ex20 RA.png
[09:19] <mneptok> bz0b: it works for me in Dapper
[09:19] <bz0b> mneptok: what did you have to do to make it work?
[09:19] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev:  u dont have write perm on it
[09:19] <jordan> imme, did you try alt+f2?
[09:19] <Hypereia> Odd, when trying to install the is32-libs, it mentions a later version already being installed.
[09:19] <ubuntu_> just read
[09:19] <AWOSDev> All permissions look like that.
[09:19] <mneptok> bz0b: install Ubuntu and network-manager-gnome
[09:19] <AWOSDev> I don't have write permissions?
[09:19] <Hypereia> OH well, I ain't complaining. :-)
[09:20] <AWOSDev> -rw- means I don't have write permissions?
[09:20] <bz0b> mneptok: i have ubuntu installed
[09:20] <hazexp> bz0b: take a look at this if you are stuck after network-manager-gnome : http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/
[09:20] <imme> jordan: Somehow alt+f2 doesn't work at this pc, nor does alt+f1... :s
[09:20] <AWOSDev> my Linux account name is awilcox FYI
[09:20] <mneptok> bz0b: so install network-manager-gnome
[09:20] <some> Hello, I have done a successfull debootstrap installation but what have replaced base-config?
[09:20] <imme> jordan: So in failsafe nautilus does work.
[09:20] <bz0b> mneptok: just did now what?
[09:20] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev: yes i can see that
[09:20] <jordan> imme, try function + alt + f2, that works for me.
[09:20] <bz0b> mneptok: i love you man
[09:20] <mneptok> bz0b: look for an icon in the top GNOME panel
[09:20] <jordan> imme, Did it ever work correctly?
[09:21] <ubuntu_> but u see r is set as perm.
[09:21] <ubuntu_> it should be rw
[09:21] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, even though they all look the same some are pink and some aren't.  The pink ones show up.  The black ones don't.
[09:21] <bz0b> mneptok: iwconfig picked it up
[09:21] <mneptok> bz0b: is there any way for me to convert your love for me into cash? and if so, how?
[09:21] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev:  try this
[09:21] <ubuntu_> open konsole
[09:21] <bz0b> mneptok: :-)
[09:21] <vanhtu1987> Hi, has anyone successfully used the ipw3945 wireless driver with wpa_supplicant ?
[09:21] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, okay I'm in irssi so okay
[09:21] <mneptok> here we go again ...
[09:21] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev:  chmod 766 filename
[09:21] <imme> jordan: nope
[09:22] <ubuntu_> now try opening the file
[09:22] <mneptok> vanhtu1987: install network-manager-gnome
[09:22] <jordan> imme, sry, I have to go :(
[09:22] <sherlok> could anyone help me get my windows network mounted? having some problems:-\ (NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME)
[09:22] <AWOSDev> Now they are all *green* :)
[09:22] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev: kool
[09:22] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev:  try opening them now
[09:22] <imme> hmmm
[09:22] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, still not in the list
[09:22] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, I've always been able to open them
[09:23] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, if I type the file name it opens it
[09:23] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, it's just not in the file list
[09:23] <AWOSDev> why are they hidden?
[09:23] <vanhtu1987> mneptok: I'm aware of that, but I'm not using GNOME and (silly me) I want to configure wpa_supplicant.conf by hand. My problem isL wpa_supplicant when invoked spitted out an error: "Failed to set encryption".
[09:23] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev: open office?
[09:23] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, well actually no, KolourPaint.  OpenOffice crapped out on me
[09:24] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, they are all pngs
[09:24] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev:  never tried that, but chk in option if 'history option is enabled'
[09:24] <bz0b> i love you guys i really do
[09:24] <ubuntu_> then it should show in file menu
[09:24] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, don't see history options...
[09:24] <mneptok> vanhtu1987: you need to tell /etc/network/interfaces to not bring the interface up completely until wpa_supplicant finishes initialization. you also need to put the hashed WPA password into wpa_supplicant.conf. it is not straightforward.
[09:24] <AWOSDev> not in file *menu*, *open file* box
[09:24] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev:  in kpaint look in tool , or edit >>prefrence
[09:25] <ubuntu_> AWOSDev:  let em chk here, hold on
[09:25] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, I click File->Open
[09:25] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, the files are not listed in the "Open Image" box that pops up
[09:25] <AWOSDev> ubuntu_, no preferences or configuration.  :)
[09:26] <ubuntu_> i dont have the tool installed :(
[09:26] <vanhtu1987> mneptok: I've done that already. Normally I'd bring up the interface by hand: "sudo /sbin/ipw3945" and "sudo ifup -v eth1" without encryption. I'd post the confif file if requested.
[09:26] <awilcox> well
[09:26] <awilcox> crap
[09:26] <ubuntu_> wb
[09:26] <ubuntu_> what happened?
[09:27] <awilcox> I accidentally hit "Session->Close" :P
[09:27] <awilcox> on the Konsole
[09:27] <awilcox> I can't get Konversation or GAIM to come up, so I'm using irssi :)
[09:27] <awilcox> did I miss anything?
[09:27] <ubuntu_> not much
[09:27] <awilcox> I was saying...
[09:27] <sakitel> it say ...dbconfig-common will now attempt to load the pre-existing settings of cacti.  Later, these settings will be validated, and if there is any problem with loading or using them you will be given the option to enter them again later.
[09:28] <awilcox> ubuntu_, sudo apt-get install kolourpaint if you really want it
[09:28] <mneptok> vanhtu1987: unfortunately my only reference wpa-supplicant.conf for manual WPA authentication is on my home desktop, which is not powered on.
[09:28] <ubuntu_> awilcox: let me chk
[09:28] <awilcox> but it has no Settings->Configure or Edit->Preferences
[09:28] <vanhtu1987> mneptok: thanks anyway, Here's my conf:
[09:28] <awilcox> and did you get what I said about the file->open?
[09:28] <mneptok> vanhtu1987: use pastebin, please
[09:29] <awilcox> mneptok, I think vanhtu1987 got pastekicked ;)
[09:29] <winterweaver> lol
[09:29] <mneptok> if 1987 is that person's birth year, i officially feel really frackin' old.
[09:30] <awilcox> ubuntu_, it happens in the File->Open Image box, not the MRU list
[09:30] <mneptok> i have *pants* that old, for god's sake.
[09:30] <awilcox> mneptok LOL
[09:30] <awilcox> uhoh
[09:30] <awilcox> can you still see me?
[09:30] <awilcox> !test
[09:30] <ubotu> Failed.
[09:31] <vanhtu1987> (ctrl_* stripped) : network={ssid="my_router" key_mgmt=NONE wep_key0="my_passphrase" wep_tx_keyidx=0 }
[09:31] <ubuntu_> back
[09:31] <awilcox> okay good bot
[09:31] <awilcox> my Internet Radio died, thought I got disconnected :P
[09:31] <awilcox> ubuntu_ good, and?
[09:31] <Hypereia> Trying to modify sources.list, but I don't have access. Tried the sudo command via terminal, to no avail.
[09:31] <vanhtu1987> ok, some of them was stripped for clarity, and btw, 1987 is my magic number ;)
[09:31] <Hypereia> sudo gedit-/etc/apt/sources.list
[09:31] <ubuntu_> awilcox:  ok do this
[09:31] <awilcox> ubuntu_ yeah?
[09:31] <Hypereia> Doesn't work. ~_~
[09:31] <ubuntu_> awilcox:  when u clik open
[09:31] <awilcox> uh-huh
[09:32] <imme> hmmmwindow close
[09:32] <ubuntu_> press f8
[09:32] <Flannel> Hypereia: gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[09:32] <ubuntu_> file>>open then press f8
[09:32] <awilcox> ubuntu_ now even more files are gone :X
[09:32] <ubuntu_> omg :O
[09:32] <ubuntu_> really :O
[09:32] <awilcox> ubuntu_ yeah
[09:32] <ubuntu_> f8 is shortcut to show hidden file
[09:32] <awilcox> ubuntu_, still in the ls though
[09:33] <Hypereia> !gksudo
[09:33] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using sudo {guiapp}
[09:33] <ubuntu_> see the setting button in open?
[09:33] <Hypereia> Oh, oh oh.
[09:33] <awilcox> ubuntu_ my scroll bar even got smaller
[09:33] <awilcox> ubuntu_ yeah
[09:33] <Hypereia> Big "oh!".
[09:33] <ubuntu_> clik it
[09:33] <Hypereia> Thanks.
[09:33] <awilcox> ubuntu_ okay now what
[09:33] <highneko> Where's the xorg.conf file?
[09:33] <awilcox> ubuntu_ the "Show Hidden Files\tF8" is checked.
[09:34] <ubuntu_> highneko:  /etc/X11
[09:34] <mneptok> highneko: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:34] <ubuntu_> awilcox: still wont work?
[09:34] <mneptok> highneko: "locate" is your friend :)
[09:34] <awilcox> ubuntu_ nope
[09:34] <ubuntu_> i'm sorry :(
[09:34] <nekloksan> * Benutzer in #ubuntu: nekloksan Rich43 croppa Arcad3 awilcox jenda koko Griver vanhtu1987 `m0 sque dwa fildo atoponce garrin hedix chavo kermitX_ cs02rm0 knix Ayabara pitti noiesmo XZEKUTION BiGcaT chandan aFx epinephrine MistaED Gumli holycow ubuntu_ furesta khermans jmworx valehru Asc elate deathz0r_ sakitel Northsea bronson hazexp FunnyLookinHat upt1me BelialMkII dao Cade dfgas winterweaver Marsmen
[09:34] <nekloksan> sch swashbucklinstev BoyBlunder Hypereia Tarqua ShadeT khwu__
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[09:34] <nekloksan> iteNoise salavas P3L|C4N0 marcels orion2012 Coir Mystilleef
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[09:34] <awilcox> ubuntu_ why, is it dead?  Did I kill it?
[09:34] <Flannel> !ops
[09:34] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[09:34] <ColdFyre> NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[09:34] <Eleaf> hi
[09:34] <nekloksan> enniB Jonbo DaveyJ freebsd_fan senori sethk cl420 v3l0ct passbe
[09:34] <nekloksan> * Benutzer in #ubuntu: Crossfire LeeJunFan Healot twowordz Tokenbad botxj SaLoMoN nomasteryoda briguyd master_of_master jansenq vladuz976 i3d nybble RedKrieg|Sleep [H5N1]  jrib Seveas PseudoPlacebo izm99 kuyky killown SonicvanaJr hpnadig _human_blip_ rpedro toosa_ junmin meatface Dark_Bahamut Cyber_Cat Djrom Hawk|- ash211 anemone redguy_ _Er1K_ hantu Quintin Locke xopher gandalfcome idaho45 Phlosten ast
[09:34] <highneko> ubuntu_: Ok, thnx.
[09:34] <Eleaf> nekloksan, stop
[09:34] <wrabbit> nek?
[09:34] <ubuntu_> awilcox:  no
[09:34] <nekloksan> _freak jabular_ AngryElf NsOmNiAc smeagol Zarephath_Away nalioth
[09:34] <nekloksan> * Benutzer in #ubuntu: ^Down highneko frej erUSUL Milchmann jpiccolo pike_away chupacabra Amaranth tj9991 SkramX bettyboop1975 aum gunne th1 rjm ^Ocean^ cafuego Kyral sonium
[09:35] <nekloksan> oh
[09:35] <onorin> kick him
[09:35] <nekloksan> sry
[09:35] <Eleaf> rofl.
[09:35] <Tomcat_> !ops
[09:35] <PyroMithrandir> wtf is going on?
[09:35] <ubuntu_> awilcox: u did not kill any1 :)
[09:35] <Eleaf> sorry nekloksan ?
[09:35] <Tomcat_> !feds
[09:35] <nekloksan> mistake
[09:35] <Tomcat_> !mods
[09:35] <onorin> kick and ban
[09:35] <Caplain_> whats with the roomcheck?
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about feds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <Eleaf> lol
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mods - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <awilcox> I try to kick him but couldn't.
[09:35] <Eleaf> onorin, he missed us.
[09:35] <Eleaf> nekloksan, room calls?
[09:35] <botxj> did somebody say my name?
[09:35] <Tarqua> that was werid..
[09:35] <ColdFyre> wtf is the point of that
[09:35] <nekloksan> no, botxj
[09:35] <onorin> kick him
[09:35] <winterweaver> lol
[09:35] <YBH_1> - /ignore nekloksan!*@* all
[09:35] <Eleaf> ColdFyre, seems to be a room call
[09:35] <nekloksan> that was a mistake
[09:35] <hpnadig> we just had the same on #php
[09:35] <ubuntu_> playing football r we?
[09:35] <Eleaf> onorin, ...? lol
[09:36] <mneptok> ColdFyre: maybe it matches the point on the top of his head.
[09:36] <ColdFyre> 3 times tonight
[09:36] <awilcox> hpnadig, from nekloksan?
[09:36] <ColdFyre> its annoying
[09:36] <botxj> ya they did it was YOU nekloksan
[09:36] <hpnadig> awilcox, no, that was someone else
[09:36] <botxj> you said my name a few minutes ago
[09:36] <SurfnKid> nekloksan, ??????
[09:36] <botxj> along with a huge list of other names in this channel
[09:36] <nekloksan> sorry sorry sorry
[09:36] <nekloksan> :(
[09:36] <Gasten> YBH_1: Erh.. then he just change the nick and come after us :D
[09:36] <awilcox> nekloksan, wth?
[09:36] <Healot> oi oi!
[09:36] <ubuntu_> well later guys
[09:36] <ubuntu_> time to study :(
[09:36] <awilcox> ubuntu_ no don't go!
[09:36] <awilcox> ubuntu_ help me first!
[09:36] <amigamia> leave nekloksan alone you trouble people!
[09:36] <ColdFyre> if you are sorry, you woukdnt have done it
[09:36] <awilcox> ubuntu_ nooooooooooooooo
[09:37] <ColdFyre> you knew it would piss people off
[09:37] <amigamia> look i can help you what do you need help with :)
[09:37] <mneptok> awilcox: please state the nature of the emergency.
[09:37] <awilcox> ubuntu_ bye!
[09:37] <ColdFyre> so you did it anyway
[09:37] <nekloksan> somebody told me to execute some command
[09:37] <nekloksan> with /names in it
[09:37] <amigamia> ahh\
[09:37] <amigamia> ahh
[09:37] <ubuntu_> awilcox:  can i say something?
[09:37] <onorin> I know this guy
[09:37] <nekloksan> i think it pasted all the names in here
[09:37] <awilcox> ubuntu_ yeah?
[09:37] <amigamia> what was the command nekloksan?
[09:37] <ubuntu_> awilcox:  use gimp instead of that tool :)
[09:37] <onorin> he also did it in #ruby
[09:37] <amigamia> what is ruby?
I hate GIMP</small>
[09:38] <blind> how do i restart my ssh server?
[09:38] <mneptok> amigamia: high level scripting language
[09:38] <hangfire> its a programming language
[09:38] <onorin> ruby is a programming language
[09:38] <ubuntu_> wo0t :o
[09:38] <BlueEagle> !info ruby
[09:38] <ubuntu_> gimp is awesome tool
[09:38] <ubotu> ruby: An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (dapper), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB
[09:38] <amigamia> ahh
[09:38] <wrabbit> Can I ask a serious questions to the more experience *nix users here?  Non-technical of course
[09:38] <Tomcat_> wrabbit: Just ask.
[09:38] <amigamia> sure you can wrabbit
[09:38] <awilcox> ubuntu_ I use it for pictures but not this drawing
[09:38] <awilcox> wrabbit what?
[09:38] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell wrabbit about ask
[09:38] <gnomefreak> wrabbit: non support related please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:39] <ubuntu_> awilcox:  apt-get install f-spot
[09:39] <awilcox> ubuntu_ what is f-spot?
[09:39] <mneptok> awilcox: what are you trying to do?
[09:39] <ubuntu_> awilcox:  although there has to be some way to ur problem
[09:39] <BlueEagle> wrabbit: Also concider using #ubuntu-offtopic if it's not directly ununtu support related. :)
[09:39] <ubuntu_> :(
[09:39] <ubuntu_> awilcox:  pic. managment tool
[09:39] <wrabbit> In there now, cheers
[09:40] <awilcox> mneptok: when I click open on anything, trying in KolourPaint but happens in any program, files are disappearing.  When I ls the directory they are all there.  If I type the name of the file it will open it, but it is not in the "Open Image" box.  When I pressed F8 to show hidden files even more files disappeared, every time I refresh the box more files disappear.
[09:40] <awilcox> Somebody help!  :)
[09:40] <awilcox> mneptok, specific enough for you?  :P
[09:40] <mneptok> awilcox: what kind of partition are these files stored on?
[09:40] <awilcox> ext3
[09:41] <awilcox> though this is happening on my NTFS drive too
[09:41] <ubuntu_> mneptok: its the $HOME folder
[09:41] <mneptok> have you run an fsck -yf on this partition?
[09:41] <awilcox> the files I need are on ext3
[09:41] <awilcox> mneptok, yeah ~/Road\ Signs
[09:41] <BlueEagle> !info KolourPaint
[09:41] <ubotu> kolourpaint: a simple paint program for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 1030 kB, installed size 2328 kB
[09:41] <awilcox> mneptok, no but I am afraid to do anything as it might remove more files.  what will it do?
[09:41] <awilcox> I mean if I run fsck I'm afraid it will *erase* all the files.
[09:42] <mneptok> awilcox: fsck is Filesystem ChecK
[09:42] <ubuntu_> !fsck
[09:42] <BlueEagle> awilcox: You might want to try #Kubuntu too for help on that as it seems to be the KDE file selector that is causing your ailments.
[09:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:42] <awilcox> mneptok, I know what fsck is
[09:42] <mneptok> awilcox: looks for errors in the filesystem and tries to recover
[09:42] <awilcox> mneptok what does -yf do?
[09:42] <SeraVitae> hi there, what's the location of the usb devices under ubuntu again? i need to see why a usb device isnt working
[09:42] <mneptok> -y = "assume yes for all questions"
[09:42] <ubuntu_> -yf = why files?
[09:42] <awilcox> BlueEagle, Yes I know but #Kubuntu is experiencing a slow time.
[09:42] <ubuntu_> just kidding :(
[09:42] <blind> Can someone please tell me how to make it so my VNC server gives me more than an xterm and a black&white window? (http://blindx.net/vnc.png)
[09:42] <mneptok> -f = "force fixes"
[09:42] <awilcox> mneptok thanks okay I'll try
[09:43] <ubuntu_> awilcox:  good luck
[09:43] <ubuntu_> :)
[09:43] <SeraVitae> i thought it might be /proc/bus/usb but the device list doesnt change when i pull my mouse out.
[09:43] <awilcox> ubuntu_, thanks!  bye!
[09:43] <ubuntu_> bye bye
[09:43] <mneptok> man, it's blessedly quiet tonight.
[09:43] <BlueEagle> awilcox: Still it would be the right place for it since the bug does appear to be in a KDE system component.
[09:43] <SeraVitae> like, the 001/002 directories/whatever are still there.
[09:43] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell awilcox about patience
[09:43] <ubuntu_> lol
[09:43] <awilcox> mneptok, WARNING!!! Running e2fsck on a mounted file system may cause SEVERE filesystem damage.  Continue?  (y/N)
[09:43] <mneptok> N
[09:44] <mneptok> boot from CD to recovery mode
[09:44] <Arcad3> omega
[09:44] <mneptok> run fsck from there
[09:44] <mneptok> never run fsck on mounted fs's
[09:44] <ubuntu_> awilcox:  kool :)
[09:44] <Eleaf> are you SURE?
[09:44] <Eleaf> lol
[09:44] <awilcox> mneptok, I hate running recovery mode, but if it's the only way...
[09:44] <ubuntu_> stop using kolourpaint :)
[09:45] <SeraVitae> a while back i was able to cat some file and press keys on my gamepad and have them show up.
[09:45] <onorin> please op me
[09:45] <SeraVitae> i can't seem to find that location now
[09:45] <awilcox> mneptok, I know stupid question, but, in Windows I could run chkdsk on mounted volumes (as long as I didn't do a sector scan), so why not in Linux?
[09:45] <ubuntu_> SeraVitae:  hi
[09:45] <SeraVitae> hi
[09:45] <ubuntu_> SeraVitae:  ran the command in konsole?
[09:45] <SeraVitae> uh, no?
[09:45] <SeraVitae> in terminal.
[09:45] <mneptok> awilcox: because Linux's filesystem was not designed by chimps 15 years ago with no updates in the intervening period? ;)
[09:46] <ubuntu_> SeraVitae:  if u did u can use history command to
[09:46] <awilcox> mneptok LOL :)
[09:46] <SeraVitae> ubuntu - the pc has been well and truly rebooted, plus actually this is another machine.
[09:46] <awilcox> mneptok talking about NTFS here though, there have been updates :)
[09:46] <ubuntu_> SeraVitae:  opent that terimanl
[09:46] <ubuntu_> type history | more
[09:46] <SeraVitae> on my laptop, which has been shutdown and used daily for about a month since?
[09:47] <jenda> What is VP.VC
[09:47] <jenda> ?
[09:47] <wrabbit> What's the command for root?
[09:47] <awilcox> mneptok: all right...if I boot in to Recovery Mode though, it will still be mounted...how else could I run fsck?
[09:47] <blind> wrabbit: sudo
[09:47] <awilcox> wrabbit: sudo -s
[09:47] <mneptok> Vice President Of The Viet Cong?
[09:47] <linuxsuxazz> hi
[09:47] <wrabbit> nvm... sudo -i worked
[09:47] <ubuntu_> SeraVitae:  shutdown wont matter, month will :(
[09:47] <wrabbit> sudo -s eh
[09:47] <ubuntu_> worth a shot though
[09:47] <ubuntu_> heh
[09:47] <mneptok> jenda: do you mean VPI/VCI?
[09:47] <linuxsuxazz> ubuntu linux sux compared to windows xp and the new coming vista
[09:47] <awilcox> linuxsuxazz, what are you doing in a Linux support channel if you think that?....
[09:48] <awilcox> If you think Linux "suckors" then just get out...don't tell us, the people who *Like* Linux, that.
[09:48] <mneptok> linuxsuxazz: once you get laid you'll back on times like these and really feel stupid about how you spent your time.
[09:48] <jenda> mneptok: ah, yes.
[09:48] <Shadowpillar> linuxsuxazz is a troll you plebs :(
[09:48] <blind> lol Shadowpillar
[09:48] <Hypereia> !module-assistant
[09:48] <ubuntu_> lol
[09:48] <ubotu> module-assistant: tool to make module package creation easier. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.2 (dapper), package size 72 kB, installed size 368 kB
[09:48] <awilcox> Can somebody kick him?
[09:48] <awilcox> kickban, infact?
[09:48] <awilcox> !ops
[09:48] <wrabbit> Shadowpillar, You think? :P
[09:48] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[09:49] <ubuntu_> awilcox:  sure :)
[09:49] <Hypereia> I don't think I have module-assistant by default.
[09:49] <SpComb> hint: look at his nick and ponder a kick
[09:49] <ubuntu_> u like to be kicked?
[09:49] <Hypereia> I need it to compile something, I believe.
[09:49] <ubuntu_> awilcox:  ur strange, heh
[09:49] <gnomefreak> awilcox: ?
[09:49] <linuxsuxazz> U
[09:49] <linuxsuxazz> B
[09:49] <linuxsuxazz> U
[09:49] <linuxsuxazz> N
[09:49] <linuxsuxazz> T
[09:49] <linuxsuxazz> U
[09:49] <linuxsuxazz> L
[09:49] <mneptok> jenda: Virtual Path Interface/Virtual Port Interface. ATM routing mechanisms.
[09:49] <botxj> spam ownage
[09:49] <awilcox> gnomefreak, we have a troll situation
[09:49] <SpComb> not anymore
[09:49] <Hypereia> Hmm.
[09:49] <blind> not anymore
[09:49] <awilcox> gnomefreak, linuxsuxazz
[09:49] <botxj> i love the smell of ownage in the morning
[09:49] <blind> ohhhhhhhhhh
[09:49] <gnomefreak> awilcox: too late
[09:49] <blind> SpComb totally beat me
[09:49] <gnomefreak> :)
[09:49] <Hypereia> Oh!
[09:49] <jenda> mneptok: thx - a friend is installing a USB modem and needs that... seems he found it.
[09:49] <ubuntu_> gnomefreak: hi
[09:50] <awilcox> gnomefreak, thanks!  :)
[09:50] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_: hi
[09:50] <mneptok> jenda: the values they input should be given to them by their ISP/telco
[09:50] <blind> Can someone please tell me how to make it so my VNC server gives me more than an xterm and a black&white window? ( http://blindx.net/vnc.png )
[09:50] <botxj> gnomefreak you deliver great ownage to that spamming dude, nice job man
[09:50] <czer323> btw, why is ubotu freaking out about?
[09:50] <jenda> mneptok: check. thanks.
[09:50] <mneptok> jenda: those values must be exactly right to negotiate a connection at the DSLAM and out to the cloud.
[09:50] <jenda> ok
[09:51] <ubuntu_> so no1 into iptables?
[09:51] <awilcox> mneptok, now, I was saying...if I boot in to recovery mode it'll still be mounted though...
[09:51] <jenda> So, if unsuccessful - ask the ISP
[09:51] <mneptok> ugh, remembering my telco-fu makes me ill.
[09:51] <ubuntu_> awilcox:  use cd ;)
[09:51] <mneptok> jenda: precisely.
[09:51] <awilcox> mneptok, how do you do recovery from the CD?
[09:51] <ubuntu_> !recovery
[09:51] <ubotu> To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[09:52] <awilcox> "alternate" install CD?
[09:52] <mneptok> jenda: call ISP. ask for second level support (because the first level mouth breathers won't know jack) and get them to give you those values for what their DSLAM expects.
[09:52] <awilcox> I don't have an "alternate" install CD...
[09:52] <mneptok> awilcox: you can boot to the Live CD desktop and do it
[09:52] <awilcox> mneptok, okay well that'll have to wait until tomorrow, it's 3:51a here :P
[09:52] <mneptok> sudo fsck -yf /dev/hda1
[09:52] <awilcox> so g'night all :)
[09:52] <Hypereia> Trying to compile the kernel module: sudo module-assistant prepare
[09:52] <Hypereia> sudo: module-assistant: command not found.
[09:52] <mneptok> for example
[09:53] <Hypereia> Stuck here.
[09:53] <ubuntu_> awilcox:  nite nite, good luck
[09:53] <mneptok> awilcox: same time here, and i'm in the office :P
[09:53] <awilcox> mneptok, actually /dev/hda3
[09:53] <viper> lol.. i just messed up my ubuntu my upgrading to edgy w/o having ubuntu-desktop installeed
[09:53] <swashbucklinstev> My laptop has some multimedia buttons that xev doesn't pick up, what will pick them up?
[09:53] <viper> by*
[09:53] <Hypereia> tried apt-get module-assistant, and nothing.
[09:53] <awilcox> mneptok, I empathise with you :)
[09:53] <htt> edgy sux : )
[09:53] <awilcox> ubuntu: thanks!
[09:53] <awilcox> mneptok, and yes "empathise" as in "I've been there before" :P
[09:53] <viper> can someone..er..tell me how to downgrade or revert?
[09:53] <ubuntu_> anytime
[09:53] <SeraVitae> well, i certainly dont know whats going on here
[09:54] <viper> right now i cant even startx
[09:54] <SeraVitae> but i'm getting 100's of usb errors from dmesg
[09:54] <viper> i'm sitting here in console on bitchx =/
[09:54] <mneptok> awilcox: you've been here? we just opened this office in june? and i thought i knew everyone that worked for us in Montreal. ;)
[09:54] <ubuntu_> mneptok: lol
[09:54] <ubuntu_> ur funny
[09:54] <viper> i dont even know how to use bitchx =P
[09:54] <ubuntu_> :)
[09:54] <Hypereia> Anyone?
[09:54] <blind> viper: shoulda gone with irssi ;)
[09:54] <mneptok> viper: can you remove ubuntu-desktop and then re-install it?
[09:54] <ubuntu_> mneptok:  yes
[09:55] <ubuntu_> mneptok:  but first install kubuntu-desktop
[09:55] <viper> mneptok installing ubuntu-desktop is admitting defeat =P
[09:55] <ubuntu_> so atleast u gotta gui running
[09:55] <mneptok> ubuntu_: you *really* don;t want to pimp KDE to me ;)
[09:55] <ubuntu_> uninstall it later
[09:55] <viper> it gives me an error like "no screens found"
[09:55] <ubuntu_> cant u :O
[09:55] <viper> i would google it, but i'm not that great w/ links, lol
[09:55] <mneptok> ubuntu_: oh, i see what you're saying.
[09:55] <blind> viper: fix your xorg.conf ;o
[09:55] <Hypereia> no display found?
[09:55] <mneptok> ubuntu_: that seems like a *lot* of extra data over the pipe just to get X
[09:56] <Hypereia> Or displays, either or.
[09:56] <ubuntu_> mneptok: true :(
[09:56] <mneptok> viper: anything intersting in ~/.xsession-errors ?
[09:56] <SeraVitae> Okay the problem seems to be a device descriptor error -110.
[09:56] <SeraVitae> how do i figure out what an error -110 is?
[09:56] <czer323> You can use: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    To get most xorg settings to defaults.
[09:57] <ubuntu_> mneptok:  is gui up?
[09:57] <Schalken> Where can I get more visualizations for Totem or Kaffeine?
[09:57] <mneptok> ubuntu_: on my machines? yes. and always has been. :)
[09:57] <ubuntu_> mneptok:  open synaptic, look for ubuntu-desktop do a reinstall
[09:57] <viper> not sure...i wish i rememebered what to look for in xorg.conf
[09:58] <mneptok> ubuntu_: i think you're confusing me with someone else :)
[09:58] <mneptok> viper: anything intersting in ~/.xsession-errors ?
[09:58] <ubuntu_> hmm
[09:58] <ubuntu_> dang i need coffee :O
[09:58] <ubuntu_> mneptok:  do u?
[09:58] <ubuntu_> lol
[09:58] <mneptok> do i what? need coffee?
[09:58] <ubuntu_> u asked bout ubuntu-desktop?
[09:58] <mneptok> just finished a cuppa, thankee.
[09:58] <viper> mneptok i checked, but there might be?
[09:58] <ubuntu_> mneptok:  np
[09:59] <viper> error launching default action command associated with this location
[09:59] <mneptok> viper: if X is having problems starting, it logs those errors to ~/.xsession-erros
[09:59] <mneptok> +r
[09:59] <bionoid> Heavily off-topic - can someone name a few good web-based discussion board? Specifically I need one with a good notification system (notify new threads, to which i've contributed, to which my friends have contributed etc), digest functionality etc. Does _not_ have to be free, but less than 3000 euros.
[09:59] <mneptok> bionoid: phpbb
[09:59] <ubuntu_> well later guy
[10:00] <ubuntu_> u all take care
[10:00] <mneptok> nighty ubuntu_
[10:00] <ubuntu_> mneptok:  nite nite :)
[10:00] <Tabias> I've installed windows xp (sp2) (partition1) then I installed ubuntu (partition6/ swap partition 7), all the rest is ntfs data. Now when I get the grub menu it properly identifies the windows xp but when I reboot it gives a disk boot failure. Anybody can help me with this?
[10:00] <bionoid> ok, let me add, one that does not have a history of causing thousands of servers to be pwned.
[10:00] <viper> mneptok it just shows different programs failing
[10:00] <mneptok> viper: look through those errors, paste them into Google, and see what others have done when faced with your problem
[10:00] <Tabias> both OS are on the same hd (sata) and 1 IDE hd is only for data (slave also)
[10:00] <viper> mneptok it's kinda hard w/ only..what..links?!
[10:01] <mneptok> bionoid: the only time that happened is when a flaw was found in an *ancient* version, and people that never bothered to upgrade or ignored the warning got their butts kicked.
[10:01] <viper> mneptok do you know how to downgrade or revert back to 6.06
[10:01] <mneptok> viper: vi, vim, nano, pico ...
[10:02] <mneptok> viper: easiest way is right from CD
[10:02] <blind> Can someone please tell me how to make it so my VNC server gives me more than an xterm and a black&white window? ( http://blindx.net/vnc.png )
[10:02] <viper> mneptok er, won't that result in data loss?
[10:03] <mneptok> viper: not if you don't reformat
[10:03] <mneptok> viper: just tell it to use existing partitions without formatitng them
[10:03] <bionoid> mneptok: Ok - reading their feature list I only see one item on notification, that of threads yourself contributed to. Says nothing about digest or more advanced notification, so it doesn't seem to fit my requirements :(
[10:04] <Gumli> im trying to install ubuntu, but the live system keeps starting up, and for some odd reasson i can't change ressolution, 640*480, so i can't see any buttons from the installer
[10:04] <pluma> Is resolvconf part of the default installation of Ubuntu?
[10:04] <Gumli> can't you run the install directly at boot?
[10:04] <viper> ok, i'll try it, mneptok , thx
[10:04] <cpk2> how you would you go about playing a video that is a .bin?
[10:04] <pluma> I'm trying to figure out what I might have installed that resets the DNS info on rebooting.
[10:04] <drumline_> pluma: resolv.conf is the same across all linuxes.
[10:05] <pluma> drumline_: I mean the package
[10:05] <noiesmo> cpk2, won't expect vid to be .bin
[10:05] <mneptok> bionoid: http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=187868
[10:05] <drumline_> pluma: dunno.  what does that pkg do?
[10:05] <mneptok> pluma: what DNS info?
[10:05] <pluma> drumline_: It's a resolv.conf manager thingy, apparently.
[10:06] <cpk2> noiesmo: i have a .bin with the data and a .cue
[10:06] <pluma> mneptok: resolv.conf, I guess?
[10:06] <pluma> mneptok: i.e. the IP of the DNS
[10:06] <mneptok> pluma: DHCP writes resolv.conf based on the values of the lease it gets
[10:06] <pluma> mneptok: I'm not on DHCP and it must be something I installed later on.
[10:06] <noiesmo> cpk2, aah ok
[10:07] <cpk2> noiesmo: dont want to get vlc when I already have kaffeine and mplayer, so wondering how to do it without vlc
[10:07] <smariani> what
[10:07] <noiesmo> check this http://cdemu.sourceforge.net/ says mplayer should do it might help
[10:07] <smariani> where are you from
[10:07] <cpk2> noiesmo: thanks
[10:08] <noiesmo> cpk2, np hope you get it sorted
[10:08] <bionoid> mneptok: thanks
[10:08] <matti> Morning.
[10:08] <pluma> Okay, seems like fetchmail was the reason I have resolvconf installed, so that's probably what's the cause of my resolv.conf getting reset on every reboot.
[10:08] <drumline_> nasty
[10:09] <drumline_> pluma: those DNS values might be on your dhcp server?
[10:09] <pluma> drumline_: I'm not on DHCP.
[10:10] <drumline_> pluma: oh.. that's nasty.
[10:10] <pluma> drumline_: As I said: something I installed later on causes my resolv.conf to get reset on every reboot regardless of what I set the Networking tool to.
[10:11] <drumline_> pluma: resolvconf might be it.
[10:11] <pluma> So, yeah, as resolvconf seems to update resolv.conf automatically, that's probably it.
[10:11] <Hypereia> Whee, just updated video driver.
[10:12] <bear>  /join #ubuntu-de
[10:12] <Enselic> I would like a scipt that opens up a bunch of apps in different workspaces at login, is this possible?
[10:13] <drumline_> pluma: yeah.. it does.   checked it on google.  there's actually a /etc/resolvconf directory.
[10:13] <bear>  /join #ubuntu-de
[10:13] <drumline_> see if 'man resolvconf' pulls anything up.
[10:14] <pluma> Okay, so I'm trying to accomplish the following: I want to set up a cvs server on my box and have the latest content mirrored on the server's htdocs.
[10:14] <drumline_> pluma: A quick, dirty and vile workaround could be to remove the writable bit on the file permissions for /etc/resolv.conf.  :)
[10:14] <Tabias> I've installed windows xp (sp2) (partition1) then I installed ubuntu (partition6/ swap partition 7), all the rest is ntfs data. Now when I get the grub menu it properly identifies the windows xp but when I reboot it gives a disk boot failure. Anybody can help me with this?
[10:14] <pluma> drumline_: Yeah, I removed fetchmail, so the reason I needed resolvconf is void, so I uninstalled that.
[10:14] <pluma> Should work now.
[10:14] <drumline_> pluma: cool.
[10:15] <mwe> shouldn't most pcs beep if the cpu or video card is not present?
[10:15] <pluma> Anyway. I realise I probably need to install cvsd and all that. No problem there (HOWTOs should be on the net). But how do I mirror the latest commit in my htdocs?
[10:16] <drumline_> you want to take a website and mirror it on your own server?
[10:18] <pluma> No. I want to manage my webserver via CVs
[10:18] <pluma> *CVS
[10:19] <pluma> I know, it's not the best way to do it, but ... well, CVS at least provides backups =P
[10:19] <variant> anyone know how to set up the dri with 3drage pro graphics card?
[10:19] <variant> its not autoconfigured
[10:19] <variant> so i set the driver line in xorg.conf to mach64.. thats the correct driver right?
[10:21] <drumline_> pluma: I'm not too familiar with how CVS works.  I can say that 'wget' might be worth looking into for you.
[10:21] <mneptok> variant: i would set it to VESA until you know for sure
[10:21] <drumline_> if you haven't already.
[10:21] <variant> mneptok: yeah, works with vesa
[10:21] <mneptok> or, rather, "vesa"
[10:21] <Arcad3> how to see users connected to my ubuntu using ssh?
[10:21] <pluma> It's a dev server. Local. I just want to do it that way so I can avoid having to give all users write-access in the web-root or having to set up a cronjob to copy the files from the home directories or w/e.
[10:21] <mneptok> Arcad3: "who"
[10:21] <variant> mneptok: if it doesnt work i can always change it back np
[10:21] <Arcad3> thanks
[10:21] <mneptok> variant: sure
[10:21] <blind> Can someone please tell me how to make it so my VNC server gives me more than an xterm and a black&white window? ( http://blindx.net/vnc.png )
[10:22] <pluma> Why? wget is only for downloading files? I don't want to access different machines, I want to have the latest commits mirrored in the webroot.
[10:22] <variant> blind: you need to connect to an existing session instead of starting a new one. so vncviewer IPADDRESS:0
[10:22] <variant> blind: that will connect to an exisint one
[10:22] <Arcad3> can i monitor another user somehow?
[10:22] <pluma> *Isn't wget...
[10:22] <blind> variant: that's the only one running.
[10:22] <variant> Arcad3: yeah with vncviewer
[10:23] <mneptok> pluma: there are so, SO many better options than cvs. like svn or bzr.
[10:23] <variant> blind: did you try that command_
[10:23] <Arcad3> he is using ssh connection
[10:23] <blind> variant: no, the only vnc server is running on display 1. not display 0.
[10:23] <variant> Arcad3: yeah there is a way, i dont recall what it is though
[10:23] <mneptok> Arcad3: "monitor" in what sense?
[10:23] <variant> Arcad3: you could try w | tail -f
[10:23] <pluma> mneptok: I think Eclipse only supports CVS atm
[10:23] <Arcad3> what he is uploadin what process is using
[10:24] <variant> Arcad3: athoguht that wouldnt work actualy
[10:24] <louiespeaks> I running unbuntu live cd.
[10:24] <louiespeaks> It won't allow me to install it.
[10:24] <louiespeaks> It always says when I try to parition my disk, "failed to parition disk, not enough space for install"
[10:24] <mneptok> pluma: http://subclipse.tigris.org/
[10:24] <louiespeaks> But I have around 37gigs of space avaliable
[10:24] <louiespeaks> any ideas?
[10:25] <variant> louiespeaks: are you doing manual partitioning or letting the partitioner do it for you?
[10:25] <mneptok> louiespeaks: "available" as in "free space in existing partitions" or "available" as in "unpartitioned space on the disk?"
[10:25] <louiespeaks> letting the so-fah-king-we-tah-did paritioner do it
[10:25] <pluma> mneptok: thanks. So do you know how to do this with svn then?
[10:25] <variant> louiespeaks: what?
[10:25] <louiespeaks> the paritioner.
[10:25] <louiespeaks> option 1
[10:26] <mneptok> pluma: nope. but i *loathe* cvs.
[10:26] <swashbucklinstev> BillyWitchDoctor help louiespeaks install Linux on his chicken
[10:26] <louiespeaks> hahah, chicken?
[10:26] <swashbucklinstev> chicken.... arise!
[10:26] <botxj> chicken strips!
[10:26] <mneptok> bawk bawk!
[10:26] <louiespeaks> Grilled chicken!
[10:26] <botxj> juicy tender chicken strips
[10:26] <mneptok> louiespeaks: "available" as in "free space in existing partitions" or "available" as in "unpartitioned space on the disk?"
[10:26] <louiespeaks> Mneptok.
[10:26] <botxj> BIG HUCKIN' CHICKEN
[10:26] <swashbucklinstev> ch... chicken... chicken arise!
[10:26] <louiespeaks> I am unable to remember what it said exactly.
[10:27] <pluma> mneptok: Do you at least know where I can find info on installing svn server on Ubuntu then? ;)
[10:27] <louiespeaks> I chose option #1
[10:27] <botxj> you are big... and you are.. spicy!... biiiiiiiiiiiiii huckin' chicken
[10:27] <louiespeaks> and set it to 50%
[10:27] <swashbucklinstev> BillyWitchDoctor move outside... better... reception
[10:27] <louiespeaks> which is 36 gigs, more than enough.
[10:27] <mneptok> pluma: it should be in Main or Universe
[10:27] <swashbucklinstev> chicken .... ..... ..... .... arise!
[10:27] <louiespeaks> biiiiig buuuuuuuuuuuckin' chicken
[10:27] <blind> variant: any other ideas? :\
[10:27] <botxj> it's huckin' not buckin'
[10:27] <louiespeaks> I don't care.
[10:27] <botxj> well i do
[10:27] <louiespeaks> The chicken was buckin'...
[10:27] <mneptok> louiespeaks: you need unpartitoned space. not empty space in existing partitions.
[10:27] <swashbucklinstev> Ok, clearly, i am the only Aqua Teen Hunger Force faithful here, so you can all rot.
[10:27] <variant> blind: is there a user logged into that box?
[10:28] <louiespeaks> Mneptok.
[10:28] <louiespeaks> Makes sense...
[10:28] <blind> variant: the one with the server?
[10:28] <louiespeaks> Am I able to run install while talking to yall?
[10:28] <variant> blind: from the terminal thats open you could just run gnome-session
[10:28] <louiespeaks> Or will the install kill GAIM?
[10:28] <blind> variant, im on the box with the server
[10:28] <variant> blind: its a server?
[10:28] <mneptok> louiespeaks: does your brain do pre-emptive multitasking or cooperative?
[10:28] <variant> blind: sorry, im not really sure what the setup is
[10:28] <blind> vncserver, that is, variant
[10:28] <variant> that u have
[10:28] <swashbucklinstev> mneptok: he's not dual core.
[10:29] <louiespeaks> My brain flows.... Left and Right sides of the brain flooooow.
[10:29] <charlie5> hi all ... does anyone use a netcomm modem for broadband ?
[10:29] <swashbucklinstev> louiespeaks: that's called crosstalk :D
[10:29] <louiespeaks> I don't care.
[10:29] <botxj> i use a linksys modem for cable
[10:29] <variant> blind: you are trying to connect to an existing session that is allready logged in?
[10:29] <swashbucklinstev> louiespeaks: you would if you've seen A Scanner Darkly... maaaan
[10:29] <louiespeaks> I wish I saw that movie.
[10:29] <blind> variant: true.
[10:29] <louiespeaks> I chose to do something else instead.
[10:29] <louiespeaks> It was free too!
[10:30] <botxj> i hate keanu reeves when he has a beard on
[10:30] <variant> blind: and what does that logged in user have running?
[10:30] <swashbucklinstev> I'm going to buy it, because I can, not because I have to. :-)
[10:30] <louiespeaks> Hahha, go for it hombre.
[10:30] <blind> variant, gnome, beryl, gaim.... it's me right  now.
[10:30] <louiespeaks> I am dual booting this biiatch.
[10:30] <louiespeaks> Fun in Windows and Ubuntu.
[10:30] <variant> blind: the default when starting a user session in x is to start on display :0 if you dont specify the session to connect to it will start a new plain xserver for you
[10:30] <swashbucklinstev> I suggest using the LVM :)
[10:30] <louiespeaks> Although on a laptop, Windows isn't very necessary.. No games.
[10:31] <variant> blind: so vncviewer ip:0
[10:31] <blind> variant: it wouldn't start on 0, but there aren't any other servers running.
[10:31] <variant> blind: you probably dont permit remote logins?
[10:31] <louiespeaks> I figure I am able to install unbuntu while talking to yall?
[10:31] <blind> yes i do..
[10:31] <swashbucklinstev> louiespeaks: depends on the laptop ofcourse, but with cedega you can even play games on your laptop too, "real" games
[10:31] <blind> i get a screen, variant. just not X.
[10:31] <blind> or rather, it's X, but I don't see what I have up.
[10:31] <louiespeaks> My laptop has like a geforce 4 mx440
[10:31] <noiesmo> swashbucklinstev, what not pretend games lol :)
[10:31] <variant> blind: on the vncserver click system > remote desktop
[10:32] <blind> like in the screenshot i linked...
[10:32] <variant> gtg, gf is here
[10:32] <louiespeaks> It's a piece, but it's a 2.4ghz p4 and 1 gig of ram.
[10:32] <blind> variant, that's all set up.
[10:32] <SeraVitae> okay, i just tried a new USB header on my motherboard, unused usb ports, mouse works fine, gamepad doesn't.
[10:32] <SeraVitae> same -110 error
[10:32] <louiespeaks> variant, remember.. fuck her gently.
[10:32] <swashbucklinstev> noiesmo: I wish kjumpingcube was pretend, but it *really* steals my time
[10:32] <unix_> does anybody know how to set the cupsd password?
[10:32] <noiesmo> swashbucklinstev, haha :)
[10:32] <blind> louiespeaks: watch the language ;)
[10:32] <swashbucklinstev> unix_: it's "swordfish"
[10:33] <louiespeaks> Wod.
[10:33] <louiespeaks> Word*
[10:33] <charlie5> a CHAP authorisation fail ... would that mean a bad username/password combo ?
[10:33] <mneptok> swashbucklinstev: please don't deliberately try to confuse people that need help
[10:33] <swashbucklinstev> :-(
[10:33] <swashbucklinstev> well, anyways, I'm audi...5000
[10:33] <louiespeaks> Who is proficient with manual paritioning?
[10:34] <unix_> I tried to set the password for the root user with lppasswd...but it wont work
[10:35] <louiespeaks> Anyone care to help a new Ubuntu user out?
[10:35] <Healot> !ask
[10:35] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:35] <mneptok> unix_: what cupsd password?
[10:35] <louiespeaks> Healot.
[10:36] <mneptok> unix_: the password for the cupsd user itself?
[10:36] <pluma> Augh. I can't find a subversion server in the repositories. only clients.
[10:36] <louiespeaks> Using !ask in my particular case is a wild goose chase.
[10:36] <unix_> mneptok, I'm trying to add a printer on the webinterface...and it's alway asking me for a user and a password
[10:36] <Overand> louiespeaks: plenty of people here are willing to help new ubuntu users out.
[10:36] <Overand> that's kind of the point
[10:36] <Overand> so... ASK!
[10:36] <unix_> ^^
[10:37] <louiespeaks> Dual booting.
[10:37] <louiespeaks> Windows Xp and Ubuntu
[10:37] <louiespeaks> Manually paritioning.
[10:37] <louiespeaks> Pointers?
[10:37] <Overand> install windows first
[10:37] <Overand> use windows partitioning system
[10:37] <Overand> leave space free
[10:37] <Overand> then install ubuntu
[10:37] <Overand> poof.
[10:37] <louiespeaks> Ugh
[10:37] <louiespeaks> Already installed XP awhile ago
[10:37] <louiespeaks> took full disk usage
[10:37] <louiespeaks> I gotta split the ntfs parition in half
[10:37] <Overand> there's no 'easy' solution to that
[10:37] <mneptok> pluma: sudo apt-get install subversion
[10:37] <mathrick> quick, what is the line I want to use with aptitude to upgrade dapper -> edgy? So that I can leave it to upgrade and go shave? :)
[10:37] <Overand> you can use gnuparted etc
[10:38] <Overand> to resize an ntfs partition
[10:38] <mneptok> unix_: use the GNOME add printer wizard thingy
[10:38] <louiespeaks> Hmmm.
[10:38] <mneptok> unix_: that will do everything CUPS needs
[10:38] <nekloksan> vagina
[10:38] <Overand> however- there is a good chance that you'll hose the entire partition
[10:38] <nekloksan> !!
[10:38] <louiespeaks> Hmm.
[10:38] <nekloksan> i love my vagina!!
[10:38] <louiespeaks> Scheisse.
[10:38] <Overand> louiespeaks: another option is to stuff another hard drive in the computer
[10:38] <Healot> !boot
[10:38] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[10:38] <louiespeaks> Laptop bro.
[10:38] <pluma> Oh. Right. I guess that's what it means by "tools for making a svn repository and making it available"
[10:38] <louiespeaks> wbaout using the last option
[10:38] <mathrick> louiespeaks: 1) use one of the commercial resizers a'la Partition Magic
[10:38] <louiespeaks> and manually paritioning
[10:39] <louiespeaks> mathrick: Good ideer.
[10:39] <mathrick> louiespeaks: 2) try if parted supports NTFS (probably not)
[10:39] <Overand> mathrick: i think it does
[10:39] <pluma> Guess I was looking for the word "server" too hard =)
[10:39] <Overand> i just don't trust it
[10:39] <mneptok> mathrick: your nick looks familiar ...
[10:39] <louiespeaks> I figured ubuntu was able to do it during install
[10:39] <Overand> even 'partition magic' is tricky
[10:39] <mathrick> mneptok: yeah, as does yours
[10:39] <Arcad3> is there a software with i can montor a user connected with ssh
[10:39] <Overand> louiespeaks: it may, actually
[10:39] <mathrick> mneptok: #gnome-hackers ?
[10:39] <louiespeaks> It does... I am just unsure how to use it.
[10:39] <Arcad3> "to keep an eye on him"?
[10:39] <mneptok> mathrick: ah yes. i'm one of the GNOME sysamdins. :)
[10:40] <mneptok> *admins, even
[10:40] <mathrick> mneptok: cheers :)
[10:40] <louiespeaks> eer /dev/hda1
[10:40] <louiespeaks> I am to resize it
[10:40] <Overand> gnuparted *can* do it i THINK- but i don't know if the version on the ubuntu CD supports ntfsresize
[10:40] <Overand> and my warning is key.
[10:40] <mathrick> Overand: you don't need ubuntu cd for that, really
[10:40] <mneptok> mathrick: when you're done with that short term memory part of your brain, could i lease it or something. ;)
[10:40] <Overand> Toying with an existing partion is a great way to destroy all the data on it.
[10:40] <Arcad3> tell me the name Louie
[10:40] <mathrick> mneptok: I doubt it'll be useful, leaky as shit ;)
[10:41] <louiespeaks> Word.
[10:41] <Overand> just plug the holes with THC!
[10:41] <louiespeaks> Arcade3 of?
[10:41] <mathrick> there are ready CD images for parted
[10:41] <Arcad3> the software
[10:41] <mneptok> mathrick: mine not only leaks, but is FIFO and cooperatively multitasks. :/
[10:41] <mathrick> louiespeaks: do you have anything important on that partition?
[10:41] <louiespeaks> Music.
[10:41] <Overand> mneptok: eww... cooperative multitasking.
[10:41] <louiespeaks> But that's on my other computer as well.
[10:41] <larsemil> since distupgrading to dapper i lost my swedish keyboardsettings. i have no idea where to look as gnome keyboardsettings works fine.
[10:41] <mathrick> louiespeaks: grab DVD+RW, burn if you care, try parted
[10:41] <mathrick> if it comes to the worst, reinstall XP
[10:41] <Spy4> hi all
[10:41] <larsemil> ah. gnomekeys are correct but not working i mean
[10:42] <louiespeaks> Word.
[10:42] <louiespeaks> Ok.
[10:42] <Spy4> need some help with HAL
[10:42] <louiespeaks> Right click the pariton, resize
[10:42] <louiespeaks> split it in half
[10:42] <Overand> pray
[10:42] <louiespeaks> and I am going to end up with a NTFS parition(windows) and unallocated space
[10:42] <louiespeaks> Correct?
[10:42] <Spy4> at boot i get the message  "failed to initialize hal"
[10:42] <Overand> yes, that's what you want to do
[10:42] <Spy4> how do i fix it?
[10:42] <louiespeaks> I am going to do it.
[10:42] <mathrick> larsemil: add "Keyboard indicator" (chances are it'll be named Tastaturindikator), what does it show?
[10:42] <Overand> louiespeaks: have fun, good luck
[10:42] <shinobi2> anyone know how the backspace key works?
[10:43] <mathrick> *add to panel
[10:43] <louiespeaks> Crossin' my fingers.
[10:43] <shinobi2> anyone know how the backspace key works? in vim?
[10:43] <Overand> shinobi2: it *should* just work
[10:43] <louiespeaks> II DIIIIID IT!
[10:43] <louiespeaks> GOO LOUIS GO LOUIS
[10:43] <louiespeaks> OOOH YEEAH
[10:43] <Spy4> hey
[10:44] <louiespeaks> It has yet to gone FUBAR.
[10:44] <elkbuntu> louiespeaks, calm down please
[10:44] <Spy4> some help fixing HAL
[10:44] <Spy4> anyone can help me?
[10:44] <Overand> Spy4: you can stop repeating.
[10:44] <louiespeaks> elkbuntu: I am calm bro. I am just an energetic dude.
[10:44] <louiespeaks> fighting optimistic
[10:44] <shinobi2> Overand: well, i think it has to do with the mode it's in.  when i open a file, i start typing and use backspace key it works, however, since this is a previously edited file, all other text that already there, will not work with backspace key
[10:44] <Spy4> overand none is answering nothing
[10:44] <Spy4> i will rwpwat
[10:44] <elkbuntu> louiespeaks, ok then, be enthusiastic quietly, with less shouting ;)
[10:45] <Overand> Spy4: then people will get more and more ticked at you and will eventually ignore you completely, if you don't get kicked.
[10:45] <larsemil> mathrick, where to add this?
[10:45] <Spy4> i thought none understood
[10:45] <louiespeaks> 34 gigs overkill for ubuntu?
[10:45] <Overand> Spy4: In all liklihood nobody knows what the problem is, or they're busy.
[10:45] <louiespeaks> 10 gigs probably be enough?
[10:45] <larsemil> mathrick, ah found it
[10:45] <mathrick> larsemil: right click on panel, "add to panel", find tastaturindikator (assuming that's in swedish)
[10:45] <mathrick> ok
[10:45] <Overand> In fact, I've never really heard of 'HAL' in the context of linux.
[10:45] <Spy4> overand there's no matter to get angry
[10:45] <Overand> HAL generally refers to 'hardware abstraction layer'
[10:45] <mjr> louiespeaks, sure Ubuntu will fit in 10, if you don't plan on storing a lot of data...
[10:45] <mathrick> larsemil: does it say "Swe" now?
[10:45] <larsemil> mathrick, tastatur is german but i found it and it says swe
[10:46] <mathrick> larsemil: but you can't type swedish?
[10:46] <louiespeaks> What the heck am I going to store other than music....
[10:46] <mathrick> louiespeaks: anime!
[10:46] <louiespeaks> Which I am going to work some magic on and read only ntfs
[10:46] <Overand> Spy4: did your machine have a windows install on it / does it dualboot to windows?
[10:46] <mathrick> *cough*
[10:46] <larsemil> when starting gnome i get an error msg saying something wrong with xkb, xmodmap or so..
[10:46] <louiespeaks> Hahha.
[10:46] <Overand> I don't know why you'd get a HAL error
[10:46] <Spy4> no only ubuntu
[10:46] <KenSentMe> I'm thinking about buying a multifunctional printer (print, fax, scan). Which brands have a good linux/ubuntu support?
[10:46] <mathrick> larsemil: aaa, that's what you should've began with
[10:46] <Spy4> me nor XD
[10:46] <louiespeaks> The ones supported by Linux.
[10:46] <mathrick> larsemil: that's always a bitch to debug
[10:46] <larsemil> mathrick, sorry. :)
[10:47] <adrian15> [OT]  Can anyone tell me which it is the language of this webpage... so that I find a translator: http://www.pikapolonica.net/?p=62   Czech? German? Polis?
[10:47] <mathrick> larsemil: if you make a new user account, does it work there?
[10:47] <mathieu> hi, how can i edit file associations in gnome?
[10:47] <noiesmo> KenSentMe, know someone with a hp6310 working perfectly
[10:47] <larsemil> mathrick, have not tried. should i?
[10:48] <mathrick> larsemil: yes
[10:48] <louiespeaks> yooooo
[10:48] <louiespeaks> what's the best filesystem to use?
[10:48] <robokop> which program should i run on my machine if i want to be able to remote login (with putty for example)
[10:48] <Overand> robokop: it's the sshd
[10:48] <noiesmo> robokop, ssh telnet
[10:48] <Overand> 'ssh server'
[10:48] <KenSentMe> noiesmo: ok, thank you
[10:49] <Overand> doesn't ubuntu ship with sshd enabled?
[10:49] <noiesmo> KenSentMe, i'll be getting one soon there network as well
[10:49] <louiespeaks> What filesystem is best for unbuntu and root?
[10:49] <Overand> louiespeaks: no 'best'
[10:49] <Overand> most common is ext3
[10:49] <louiespeaks> Well.
[10:49] <louiespeaks> I am going to use ext3 than.
[10:49] <Overand> I'd suggest that if you're going to dualboot
[10:49] <louiespeaks> Word.
[10:49] <mathrick> adrian15: Serbian / Croatian, maybe some other Balkan Slavic language
[10:49] <mathrick> not sure
[10:49] <Overand> partially because there are apps for windows that read ext3 like 'explore2fs'
[10:50] <mathrick> I can tell you it's not Polish (I'm Polish :), and also not Slovak/Czech
[10:50] <louiespeaks> Hmmmk.
[10:50] <KenSentMe> noiesmo: does pc-faxing work too?
[10:50] <keithhh1> anyone know how to install ati tv out
[10:50] <louiespeaks> alit I got three paritions now
[10:50] <louiespeaks> ntfs
[10:50] <louiespeaks> a 2 gig swap
[10:50] <louiespeaks> and the rest ext3
[10:50] <louiespeaks> time to move forward?
[10:51] <Overand> the country code that the domain is registered to is SI
[10:51] <mathrick> mneptok: so, before we trade our short-term memories, do you happen to know a line to insert into sources.list / whatever for upgrading to Edgy?
[10:51] <Overand> Slovenia
[10:52] <Overand> adrian15: the website is registered to someone in Slovenia
[10:52] <mathrick> ah, of course
[10:52] <mathrick> and it's almost surely Slovenian
[10:52] <amigamia> vpn is powerful thing
[10:52] <louiespeaks> *please don't screw up please don't screw up*
[10:52] <amigamia> it will shut you out
[10:52] <adrian15> mathrick: ubuntu-si does not exist :( Will try with debian-si then
[10:52] <mneptok> mathrick: lemme find the correct URLs for you.
[10:52] <adrian15> mathrick: Overand thank you
[10:53] <mneptok> mathrick: i know we have it documented somewhere internally, just need to find it.
[10:53] <louiespeaks> ll
[10:53] <wrabbit> what's the longest anybody here has had their pc running with ubuntu on it?
[10:53] <whitedeth> anyone know a good software for archives?
[10:53] <louiespeaks> lol* Houston, it is a noooooooo gooooo.
[10:53] <wrabbit> I mean uptime
[10:53] <whitedeth> Archive Manager sucks.
[10:53] <louiespeaks> Didn't work.
[10:53] <whitedeth> it keeps saying "archive type not supported" even though it clearly is.
[10:53] <louiespeaks> GREEEAAAT!
[10:53] <mathrick> mneptok: yeah, I know it's possible, I just don't feel like fighting with releases and pins today :)
[10:53] <louiespeaks> Parition magic is going to do the trick.
[10:54] <mathrick> louiespeaks: so it said "done" but didn't work?
[10:54] <mathrick> parted that is
[10:54] <louiespeaks> Nope.
[10:54] <louiespeaks> It said failed to move
[10:54] <larsemil> mathrick, still the same.
[10:54] <mneptok> mathrick: amen, brother.
[10:54] <louiespeaks> Basically, it didn't do anything.
[10:54] <louiespeaks> Back to what it was before.
[10:54] <jeanmi3> I have ubuntu 6.06, kernel 2.6.15-25-386 and the 'tun' module loaded but when I try to ifconfig tun0 I am getting "tun0: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[10:54] <louiespeaks> Someone upstairs must not want me to put linux on my hdd
[10:55] <mathrick> larsemil: then, uh, something is fucked and it's always nasty to debug. Honestly, I've never been able to figure that one out, XKB is not exactly an easy piece of software :\
[10:55] <suk4> hola
[10:55] <suk4> alguien me puede ayudar
[10:55] <whitedeth> !archive
[10:55] <larsemil> mathrick, but does it have anything to do with xorg.conf or is it something else?
[10:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about archive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:55] <suk4> alguien habla espaol?
[10:56] <PsyOpsWarrior> Linux ooooh linux.
[10:56] <mneptok> mathrick: gksu "update-manager -c -d"
[10:56] <whitedeth> Anyone know a good software for *.7Z?
[10:56] <adrian15> suk4: yo mism
[10:56] <cpk2> !es
[10:56] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:56] <suk4> hola adrian
[10:56] <cpk2> lo siento
[10:56] <PsyOpsWarrior> Been dibledabbling with it for years, never seem to have it on my computer for much longer than a month.
[10:56] <adrian15> suk4: pero se supone que te tienes que conectar al #ubuntu-es que para est
[10:57] <YBH_1> hmm i have the mplayer mozilla plug in installed and it works fine for quciktime and other audio video, but when a .WMV file is selected totem is th edefault player anyon eknow how to eliminate totem ?
[10:57] <whitedeth> !7zip
[10:57] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[10:57] <keithhh1> anyone have any tips how to use atitvout
[10:57] <Normal> Hey guys, I just(finally!) got Ubuntu installed(after having to use Breezy, then update, then...all sorts of workarounds)... I have a kernel that locks up(it has a 15 at the end), but I had one with 12 at the end as an option in GRUB..How do I remove the 15 one?
[10:58] <mneptok> Normal: what kind of processor do you have?
[10:58] <Normal> amd x2 4200
[10:58] <YBH_1> you don't need to remove it edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:58] <mneptok> Normal: you using i386 or AMD64?
[10:58] <mneptok> YBH_1: that is not recommended
[10:58] <Normal> I'm not using the 64-bit version, if thats what you mean.
[10:59] <mathrick> larsemil: possibly, try deleting (well, back it up) xorg.conf, then run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[10:59] <mathrick> mneptok: lemme try this
[11:00] <mneptok> Normal: you'll want to use Synaptic to install the latest K7 kernel image, and then use Synaptic to remove the other kernels and their modules.
[11:00] <Normal> How would I go about doing that?
[11:00] <Normal> Sorry, I'm new.. It took me four days to finally get this installed with a working X server
[11:01] <mathrick> mneptok: WHOA, "Upgrade distribution" button sure is shiny. A bit like star trek :)
[11:01] <mneptok> mathrick: "Please state the nature of the dist-upgrade emergency." ;)
[11:02] <Normal> And I was only able to do that from what little I learned while install Gentoo(which I got rid of, cause I couldn't get a gui in it[but I did minimally install it though!] )
[11:02] <mathrick> mneptok: :)
[11:02] <larsemil> mathrick, or atleast i start editing it manually. :)
[11:03] <boink> Normal: ubuntu is made with a different philosophy than Gentoo
[11:03] <boink> with Gentoo, you can learn a lot though
[11:03] <Normal> I know, and I looooove it!
[11:03] <mathrick> larsemil: that too, but I don't think you know which parts to poke, since I sure as hell don't, not without at least looking at it
[11:03] <Normal> Once I can get it to halfway work! :)
[11:04] <boink> FreeBSD is similar to Gentoo, but it's a real BSD system. Gentoo is the most BSD of any linux distro I know of
[11:05] <nekloksan> seek hyle!
[11:06] <Normal> I love Ubuntu, not Gentoo(I think what I previously wrote came out wrong)
[11:07] <mike_stern> how can i install the make
[11:07] <mike_stern> module
[11:07] <godfather> g'day guys
[11:07] <mike_stern> make install blabla
[11:07] <godfather> i have a problem with synaptic
[11:08] <godfather> when i try to make the update or install a new package it gives to me an error
[11:08] <PsyOpsWarrior> I am outta here.
[11:08] <PsyOpsWarrior> Peace
[11:08] <godfather> could anyone help me
[11:08] <PsyOpsWarrior> One day I am going to get this jaunt installed.
[11:08] <PsyOpsWarrior> Until than, toodles.
[11:08] <mike_stern> godfather: you have gcc installeD?
[11:09] <mneptok> mike_stern: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[11:09] <mike_stern>  mneptok: thank yo
[11:10] <godfather> i don't remember
[11:11] <wrabbit^> boink, even moreso than slackware?
[11:11] <larsemil> mathrick, i solved it by xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.se
[11:11] <boink> Slackware is painful since it's pkg management system is so horrible
[11:11] <boink> pkg_add .. it claims it works, then not everything is installed *duh*
[11:11] <wrabbit^> What does it use?
[11:11] <buzzy-> !ntp
[11:12] <ubotu> ntp: Network Time Protocol: network utilities. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2.0a+stable-8.1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 250 kB, installed size 464 kB
[11:12] <wrabbit^> ah right
[11:12] <buzzy-> how do i sync my system clock?
[11:12] <boink> ntpdate
[11:12] <boink> ntpdate you.favourite.timeserver
[11:13] <buzzy-> !ntpdate
[11:13] <ubotu> ntpdate: The ntpdate client for setting system time from NTP servers. In component main, is important. Version 1:4.2.0a+stable-8.1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 43 kB, installed size 160 kB
[11:13] <mneptok> you'll want to sudo that
[11:13] <darkanyel> hi, anyone can told me how to install rthyhtmbox??
[11:14] <mneptok> darkanyel: it is installed by default in Ubuntu
[11:14] <boink> and there's ntpd as well, which is demon to keep your computer in the correct time
[11:14] <boink> is ntpd installed as default too?
[11:14] <flaccid> which file stores the login manager to run?
[11:14] <mneptok> boink: no
[11:14] <darkanyel> yes mneptok, but i wanna install the 0.9.6
[11:14] <mneptok> darkanyel: then you need to compile it from source yourself.
[11:14] <buzzy-> boink,  where do i find timeservers?
[11:14] <flaccid> i guess its /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[11:14] <boink> ideally, you should use a timeserver for your ISP
[11:15] <darkanyel> yes mneptok, but i dont know how
[11:15] <mneptok> buzzy-: google for "public stratum 2 ntp servers"
[11:15] <boink> but not all ISP's have their own timeservers :/
[11:15] <Arcad3> how to change apache the page at the index of.. not to show the OS version and apache version?
[11:15] <flaccid> but that doesnt exist
[11:15] <boink> thus ... with google you can find the closest time server
[11:15] <Ash-Fox> Many home routers come with a timeserver.
[11:16] <boink> yes, like the D-link fiasco
[11:16] <boink> D-Link was pounding a time server in .dk
[11:16] <david83> !lilo
[11:16] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[11:16] <nekloksan> dcc send 0123456789asdfghjjjjjjjjjjj
[11:17] <godfather> guys
[11:17] <Draco> I have a new motherboard that I am having networking problems with, I have done the networking configuration and its enabled, however I only seem to receive data, no data is sent
[11:17] <darkanyel> mneptok, when i use "./configure" evething is ok escept this "checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool" what mean this??
[11:17] <godfather> i have problems with synaptic
[11:17] <godfather> could anyone help me?
[11:17] <Enselic> How could we know?
[11:17] <david83> !ask > david83
[11:17] <david83> !question > david83
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about question - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:18] <wrabbit^> just ask godfather .. don't ask to ask
[11:18] <godfather> ok
[11:18] <wrabbit^> :)
[11:18] <godfather> if yiu give me the past link
[11:18] <Draco> can anyone help me troubleshoot a networking problem please.
[11:18] <mneptok> darkanyel: you're missing a Perl module. get it with Synaptic or CPAN
[11:18] <david83> !ask
[11:18] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:18] <wrabbit^> lol
[11:19] <Draco> wiseass...
[11:19] <jernst> Hi everybody
[11:19] <Draco> I have a new motherboard that I am having networking problems with, I have done the networking configuration and its enabled, however I only seem to receive data, no data is sent
[11:19] <darkanyel> what should i look fo in synaptics???
[11:19] <Enselic> !ask > Enselic
[11:19] <Arcad3> godfather:http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[11:19] <godfather> no
[11:20] <david83> Draco do you got a onboard or hardware network card?
[11:20] <jernst> I have just installed edgy on my desktop computer (which was running Gentoo before). I have a RAID0 array (softraid) where / is supposed to be. However as it seems default Ubuntu kernel doesn't have RAID0 support buildin (but as a module) I can't boot...
[11:20] <Arcad3> what seems to bethe problem?
[11:20] <jernst> does someone know if the server-image has raid compiled in ?
[11:20] <Draco> david83, its onboard, MSI mbd
[11:20] <godfather> even if i try to install a new package o simply making the update it gives to meyhe same error
[11:20] <Arcad3> change repositories
[11:21] <david83> Draco you are behind a router and don
[11:21] <Arcad3> solved my prob
[11:21] <david83> Draco and can't send data? or what is the constaltion
[11:22] <Draco> david83, physical network is fine if I plug the laptop in the same network point with the same configuration everything is fine
[11:22] <Enselic> Do I get this > Enselic
[11:22] <Draco> david83, data is received according to support tab but 0 bytes sent
[11:22] <Enselic> !bottutorial
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bottutorial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <Draco> david83, I can ping the IP address assigned to the card via network tools
[11:23] <david83> Draco is it a dual network board?
[11:23] <Draco> david83, no only 1 oboard
[11:23] <buzzy-> do you know gnormalize? is it good?
[11:23] <david83> hmm
[11:24] <Draco> very hmm
[11:24] <mathrick> larsemil: that doesn't solve anything, merely works around the problem by loading modmap using old and obsolete method. XKB still doesn't work and it will be broken again on your next login
[11:24] <david83> Draco did it worked already on linux?
[11:24] <Draco> david83, first time installation on this machine
[11:25] <darkanyel> mneptok, which packet i need?
[11:25] <david83> Draco, maybe try knoppix and if the network works write down the used driver
[11:25] <grolsch> i'm trying to inject some packets into an old version of apache and need some help
[11:25] <Draco> david83, knoppix ?
[11:25] <bsharitt> Is there a better place to discuss Edgy Eft, or this room alright?
[11:25] <david83> !knoppix <
[11:25] <roconnor> why are linux-kernel-headers only available for  2.6.11.2?
[11:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knoppix < - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <david83> !knoppix > Draco
[11:26] <roconnor> that seems very strange to me
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knoppix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <david83> lame :)
[11:27] <Draco> seems its faster for me to just install windows than to troubleshoot linux
[11:27] <Enselic> !ubuntu
[11:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[11:27] <Enselic> !gwbush
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gwbush - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <Enselic> !politics
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about politics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <Enselic> !themeaningoflife
[11:27] <Draco> david83, thanks for the help anyways going to install windows to test the card
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about themeaningoflife - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <boink> heh .. c'mon, let's not abuse the bot
[11:28] <Draco> Enselic, stop spamming u dork
[11:28] <david83> Draco  i know it's hard and its free though
[11:28] <boink> it's much easier than many other distros
[11:28] <bsharitt> I just installed Edgy Eft, and am having some difficulties with the networking settings.
[11:28] <david83> Draco what your language
[11:28] <david83> watch
[11:29] <nikin> installing windows is fast... but isnt any good :D
[11:29] <Draco> david83, I have 23 other MSI workstations running on the network with Ubuntu never had this problem before so I just need to identify if its hardware related
[11:29] <bsharitt> For some reason, the network settings won't hold the default gateway address
[11:29] <david83> Draco what MSI board you got?
[11:29] <bsharitt> Even when I add it to the /etc/network/interfaces file by hand, it gets removed.
[11:29] <boink> that's really odd
[11:30] <Draco> david83, K9NGM2-FID
[11:30] <david83> Draco could be hardware related one out of 23 :)
[11:30] <bsharitt> I can ping the router and other devices on my network, but since it won't take the gateway it can't see outside my network.
[11:30] <boink> you have dhcp or a static ip?
[11:30] <Draco> david83, first time with K9N motherboard so it may not be supported in Ubuntu, board is 2 days old
[11:31] <main2> how do i disable localisation in my console?, i want my english console back :(
[11:31] <mneptok> darkanyel: you need that Perl module
[11:31] <bsharitt> Static
[11:31] <Draco> statis
[11:31] <buzzy-> people i have downloaded a tar that has to be installaed: i type sudo ./install but it says : "make command not found"
[11:31] <SeAofSaRo> anyone know how to get video codecs working in ubuntu?
[11:31] <boink> apt-get install build-essential
[11:31] <mneptok> darkanyel: read the error message you showed me, look for the module it complains is missing, and then search repos for that module.
[11:31] <david83> Draco yeah new hardware is always difficult in linux
[11:31] <boink> buzzy: it's called "build-essential" or something like that
[11:32] <boink> it will then install stuff like gcc, make, etc
[11:32] <Draco> david83, ok gonna install windows quick to see if card works there
[11:32] <mneptok> buzzy-: what is this tar file? for what app?
[11:32] <david83> Draco, good luck
[11:33] <bsharitt> Are there any known problems with Edgy Efts network setting tool?
[11:33] <buzzy-> mneptok, gnormalize, u know?
[11:33] <wrabbit^> Is there an easy way to play a CD via the command line?
[11:33] <nikin> wrabbit.. there are some command line CD players
[11:34] <godfather> guys help me i pasted the error on 25795
[11:34] <sharju> Hello can anyone please help me?
[11:34] <boink> I think "cdplay" is a CMI cdplayer thing
[11:34] <mneptok> buzzy-: yep. you'll need build-essentials
[11:34] <boink> sharju: sure, just ask
[11:34] <boink> it's called "build-essentials", right?
[11:34] <mneptok> it is
[11:34] <boink> apt-get install build-essentials
[11:34] <mneptok> +sudo
[11:34] <boink> :)
[11:34] <derotto1337> sudo rm -rf /
[11:34] <roconnor> okay now I think I know the right question:  Why does libc6-dev depend on linux-kernel-headers, rather than linux-headers?
[11:35] <derotto1337> yes, boink
[11:35] <derotto1337> it has
[11:35] <godfather> could anyone help me?
[11:35] <main2> derotto1337:  dont
[11:35] <main2> asshole
[11:35] <boink> ok .. heh, never used it. I always installed each thing one by one *duh*
[11:35] <derotto1337> asshole?
[11:35] <derotto1337> :o
[11:35] <mneptok> roconnor: because the headers need to be specific to the released kernel version you're running. linux-headers is too generic for that.
[11:35] <buzzy-> what is the best audio conversion tool?
[11:35] <main2> theres a lot of noobs around here, ur not funny derotto1337
[11:35] <boink> for doing what, buzzy?
[11:36] <derotto1337> so they should not do sudo rm -rf /
[11:36] <nikin> wrabbit: see mcdp
[11:36] <bsharitt> Arrr, I with the normal "simple" installer(from the liveCD) gave the option whether or not install the boot loader, or at least let me configure it.
[11:36] <derotto1337> or sudo rm -rf /
[11:36] <derotto1337> because sudo rm -rf / is bad
[11:36] <mneptok> derotto1337: stop
[11:36] <main2> can anyone kick that derotto1337 asshole?
[11:36] <gnomefreak> derotto1337: please watch you lnaguage
[11:36] <sharju> I have just instaled Ubuntu server edition on an old computer. The isnatllation went fine, and I removed the installation CD. The problem is that ithe system just wont boot up.
[11:36] <main2> !mods !admin
[11:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mods !admin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:36] <gnomefreak> main2: watch your language
[11:36] <DickSmith> Ive been trying linux on an off for about two months now. I no expert....On the surface it's ready i believe...but when you look under the surface it's really confusing....when you want to install drivers/various things you have to go through a whole process of confusing commands an create weird txt files bla bla...dont get me wrong i like linux but there is so much confusing shit
[11:36] <gnomefreak> derotto1337: stop giving bad advice
[11:36] <main2> gnomefreak: USE ur fckin skills and do something about that moron
[11:37] <mneptok> DickSmith: i could say the *exact* same thing about Windows.
[11:37] <roconnor> mneptok: but there are no linux-kernel-headers for the kernal avaiable
[11:37] <derotto1337> gnomefreak, i said they sould not do that
[11:37] <DickSmith> how wneptok?
[11:37] <godfather> guys i can't make update
[11:37] <bsharitt> Meh, a reboot apparently worked
[11:37] <godfather> i can't install any package
[11:37] <godfather> it gives to me the same damn error
[11:37] <mneptok> DickSmith: "what the HELL is a 'registry'?! and how is anyone supposed to make sense of it?"
[11:37] <apokryphos> derotto1337: you also don't have to be annoying
[11:37] <gnomefreak> ty mine wasnt able to do that
[11:38] <roconnor> mneptok: there is no linux-kernel-2.6.15 package in ubuntu.
[11:38] <roconnor> mneptok: there is no linux-kernel-headers-2.6.15 package in ubuntu.
[11:38] <sharju> The computer keeps restarting. Its seesm that LILO is unaware of the linux partitions.
[11:38] <DickSmith> You dont need to tamper with the registry
[11:38] <boink> using lilo?
[11:38] <DickSmith> to install ATI cards for example
[11:38] <boink> ubuntu uses grub
[11:38] <gnomefreak> boink: you can use both
[11:38] <gnomefreak> either even
[11:38] <roconnor> mneptok: but there is a linux-headers-2.6.15 package that describes itself as linux kernel headers
[11:38] <boink> but why would you want to use ubuntu?
[11:39] <mneptok> DickSmith: no, you get this blob of stuff from ATI, double click an installer, and pray to almighty God that you don;t have to reinstall the OS when the wizard fails.
[11:39] <sharju> Sorry I meant GRUB.
[11:39] <godfather> please help me
[11:39] <boink> aaargh, I mean lilo :P
[11:39] <boink> s/ubuntu/lilo/
[11:39] <v3l0ct> godfather: what's the error
[11:39] <mneptok> roconnor: do a search for "headers" with Synaptic or apt-cache
[11:40] <roconnor> mneptok: I have
[11:40] <david83> mneptok; you don't have to reinstall but it never works that's all
[11:40] <DickSmith> I agree Windows is flawed
[11:40] <david83> !politics
[11:40] <v3l0ct> nothing is perfect
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about politics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:41] <mneptok> DickSmith: the problem is one of acclimitization. you're *used* to the way Windows does things. it never occurs to you that you have spent years and years getting this knowledge. Linux isn't harder, it's just different.
[11:41] <SeAofSaRo> anyone in here ever setup a wacom tablet in ubuntu?
[11:41] <wrabbit^> by default, where does ubuntu/kubuntu mount the cd/dvd?
[11:42] <v3l0ct> godfather: it's usually best if you paste the link to your pastebin entry than just giving a number
[11:42] <buzzy-> people i have downloaded a tar that has to be installaed: i type sudo ./install but it says : "make command not found"
[11:42] <buzzy-> what is the best audio conversion tool?
[11:42] <buzzy-> what is the best audio conversion tool?
[11:42] <DickSmith> I learnt Windows in 5 minutes
[11:42] <david83> wrabbit, /media
[11:42] <gnomefreak> buzzy-: you dont do ./install
[11:42] <DickSmith> I love Ubuntu but its taking months
[11:42] <david83> DickSmith, take apple and you don't have to learn anything
[11:42] <buzzy-> gnomefreak, i solved install problems, now i'd like to know what is the best audio converter
[11:43] <gnomefreak> buzzy-: unpack the tar than cd into new dir. than type ./configure && make && sudo make install
[11:43] <wrabbit^> david83, I'm trying to play an audio cd that I've just put in my dvd drive but I can't for the life of me figure out how to play it
[11:43] <sharju> I want a free file fileserver that I my windows computer can access + I want to try Linux out.
[11:43] <gnomefreak> convert what to waht?
[11:43] <david83> wrabbit^, it's because of the codecs
[11:43] <roconnor> See for yourself: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libdevel/libc6-dev
[11:43] <DickSmith> Apple is gay.
[11:44] <david83> wrabbit did you try cd-player over ubuntu gui?
[11:44] <gnomefreak> DickSmith: stay on topic
[11:44] <boink> sharju: then samba is what you need
[11:44] <DickSmith> I love linux it's just really confusing to me I'm not saying that's a bad thing
[11:44] <roconnor> Look, it depends on linux-*kernel*-headers
[11:44] <wrabbit^> david83, is there a way to search the cd via command line?
[11:44] <DickSmith> ok gnomefreak
[11:44] <DickSmith> sorry dude
[11:44] <julo> irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu-pl
[11:44] <wrabbit^> as in list files
[11:44] <roconnor> but when you click on it, you get http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/devel/linux-kernel-headers
[11:44] <roconnor> Package: linux-kernel-headers (2.6.11.2-0ubuntu18)
[11:44] <roconnor> see: wrong version!
[11:45] <roconnor> Has anyone here installed libc6-dev?
[11:45] <Normal> I can't get a 2.6.15 kernel to load(it freezes while booting) but I can get a 2.6.12 to...Are there any other options?
[11:45] <david83> wrabbit don't you got a GUI like gnome or KDE?
[11:45] <sharju> Yea I know, I but my fresh Server installation just won't boot up.
[11:45] <gnomefreak> roconnor: ubuntu never used the 2.6.11 kernel afaik
[11:46] <roconnor> gnomefreak: I know, the libc6-dev package dependencies are broken!
[11:46] <roconnor> and that is an imporant package
[11:46] <gnomefreak> roconnor: on dapper?
[11:46] <sharju> I get no error messages the computer just reboots constantly ubtill I shut it off.
[11:46] <wrabbit^> david83, I do but I'd like to work out how to use the command line for simple things like this
[11:46] <roconnor> gnomefreak: yes, see http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libdevel/libc6-dev
[11:47] <Normal> Can I install a 2.6.12 kernel if I download the '
[11:47] <v3l0ct> roconnor: how is it broken?
[11:47] <Normal> notlive dapper
[11:47] <gnomefreak> roconnor: file a bug. giv eme bug number i will try to ping the kernel guy later this morning
[11:47] <david83> wrabbit there are better things to try for simple command line things
[11:47] <gnomefreak> v3l0ct: it depends on a kernel-header that ubuntu never uese
[11:47] <gnomefreak> d
[11:47] <gnomefreak> used even
[11:48] <julo> how to configure apache2 on ubuntu to make my host visible outside network
[11:48] <wrabbit^> david83, you're probably right
[11:48] <david83> wrabbit like mkdir, ls, cp, mv, du, df, rm, and things like that
[11:48] <v3l0ct> gnomefreak: but it says >= so it should be ok
[11:48] <roconnor> v3l0ct: check out the kernel-header depencency
[11:49] <wrabbit^> I've learny mkdir, ls, cp, mv, less, file, which etc
[11:49] <wrabbit^> actually, not file.  I have no idea what that is
[11:49] <wrabbit^> "man" has been alot of help
[11:49] <roconnor> v3l0ct: but in ubuntu, the kernel header packages are called linux-header, not linux-kernel-header
[11:49] <buzzy-> friends: what is the best audio conversion tool?
[11:49] <v3l0ct> roconnor: oh i see
[11:49] <roconnor> gnomefreak: what is the simplest way for me to file a bug?
[11:49] <david83> wrabbit there are much linux doc out there for learn to work in the console
[11:49] <gnomefreak> yes its greater than
[11:50] <gnomefreak> roconnor: shouldnt need to
[11:50] <v3l0ct> they weren't updated, i think they used to go by that name
[11:50] <buzzy-> gnomefreak, i solved install problems, now i'd like to know what is the best audio converter
[11:50] <buzzy-> friends: what is the best audio conversion tool?
[11:50] <roconnor> gnomefreak: oh, what should I do then?
[11:50] <buzzy-> sorry gnomefreak
[11:50] <david83> wrabbit apropos and info and the find command is good too
[11:50] <buzzy-> :)
[11:50] <gnomefreak> roconnor: it depends on a kernel-headers version greater than 2.6.11
[11:50] <gnomefreak> buzzy-: i asked you a wuestion
[11:50] <v3l0ct> buzzy-: google is your friends.  it's all a matter of taste
[11:50] <gnomefreak> question and havent seen answer yet
[11:50] <wrabbit^> david83, I've been going through www.linuxcommand.org I think it's called
[11:50] <wrabbit^> very good
[11:51] <DickSmith> When I type fglxinfo in terminal it doesnt show information...why?
[11:51] <wrabbit^> plus, I pick up other things of google whenever possible
[11:51] <webben> If I insert a USB drive, then an icon appears on the desktop. Right-clicking offers a load of options including Eject. If I double-click the icon to open the USB drive in Nautilus, then go up, the drive appears as a folder.
[11:51] <buzzy-> gnomefreak, what wuestion?
[11:51] <webben> There is no eject option for the folder.
[11:51] <v3l0ct> DickSmith: it's fglrxinfo, that's why
[11:51] <aFx> does user of here make web-design to PhP ?
[11:51] <aFx> does user of here make web-design to PhP ?
[11:51] <webben> This seems massively counter-intuitive.
[11:51] <gnomefreak> buzzy-: what are you looking to convert to what?
[11:51] <katatafish> O_o
[11:51] <wrabbit^> I'd just like to know that if I try a BSD or a distro like slackware, I'm not gonna be outta my depth because I'm used to something like Ubuntu
[11:51] <Enselic> !realplayer
[11:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:51] <DickSmith> fglrxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:51] <buzzy-> gnomefreak, wav to mp3
[11:51] <webben> Does this happen to other people? If so, is there a fix for Dapper and has this been fixed in Edgy?
[11:52] <gnomefreak> buzzy-: google for that i dont remember ubuntu having a package for that
[11:52] <roconnor> gnomefreak: yes, but there are no linux-*kernel*-headers greater than 2.6.11
[11:52] <gnomefreak> roconnor: yes there is
[11:52] <roconnor> gnomefreak: there are, however, linux-headers greater than 22.6
[11:52] <roconnor> gnomefreak: there are, however, linux-headers greater than 2.6
[11:52] <gnomefreak> dappers kernel headers should be 2.6.15
[11:52] <roconnor> gnomefreak: notice the change in package name!
[11:53] <DickSmith> fglrxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:53] <axeeOo> hi; im having trouble enabling syntax highliting in vim, I have uncommented the " syntax enable line, but it is still not working; I also installed cream and tried toggling the setting there but it does not work. anyone know perhaps why its doing this/how to fix it?
[11:53] <gnomefreak> roconnor: the package name for what?
[11:53] <david83> wrabbit, yeah it's hard i tried to get my PCMCIA network card to run under Debian and it took me 2 weeks and i had no success :(
[11:53] <roconnor> gnomefreak: linux-headers vs linux-kernel-headers
[11:53] <gnomefreak> linux-kernel-headers-2.6.15-xx
[11:53] <gnomefreak> roconnor: 2 differnet packages
[11:53] <v3l0ct> gnomefreak: lame will convert from wav to mp3
[11:53] <v3l0ct> DickSmith: what card?
[11:53] <roconnor> gnomefreak: there is no linux-kernel-headers-2.6.15 package in dapper.
[11:54] <wrabbit^> david83, did you use ndiswrapper?
[11:54] <DickSmith> ATI 9500 i think.
[11:54] <wrabbit^> took me a while to work out how to install my card on my thinkpad
[11:54] <gnomefreak> !info linux-kernel-headers-2.6.15
[11:54] <ubotu> Package linux-kernel-headers-2.6.15 does not exist in any distro I know
[11:54] <roconnor> gnomefreak: or at least none that I can find
[11:54] <gnomefreak> give me a min
[11:54] <DickSmith> something like that. I installed XGI and tried to install compiz but i think i failed...now i get that error
[11:54] <v3l0ct> DickSmith: what did you do to install.
[11:54] <roconnor> :)
[11:54] <roconnor> thanks
[11:54] <aFx> what language do user of here make web-page (php,asp,cgi,java)?
[11:54] <david83> wrabbit no i tried ubuntu and by just putting it in the slot it was installed correctly no problems
[11:54] <user-land> Hello, is the Firewall in Ubuntu 6.06 easy to use ?
[11:54] <v3l0ct> ati9500 won't run xgl
[11:54] <axeeOo> aFx: php
[11:55] <DickSmith> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Installing_the_driver
[11:55] <doublemarked> I think you just want "kernel-headers-..." ... it's not prepended by 'linux'
[11:55] <aFx> oh php...
[11:55] <ajmitch> roconnor: why is it a problem?
[11:55] <DickSmith> that, it was working...untill i install XGL
[11:55] <BlueEagle> user-land: There are several front-ends for iptables (which is the firewall that most use)
[11:55] <BlueEagle> user-land: I recomedn firestarter if you're not savvy on firewalls. If you want finer control however shorewall is my personal choice.
[11:55] <BlueEagle> recomend*
[11:55] <gnomefreak> Package linux-kernel-headers
[11:55] <gnomefreak>     * dapper (devel): Linux Kernel Headers for development
[11:55] <gnomefreak>       2.6.11.2-0ubuntu18: amd64 i386 powerpc
[11:55] <wrabbit^> david83, :) awesome.  That's what I mean though.  Ubuntu does alot for you(which is GREAT) but I think it's leading me into a false sense of security in context of more "advanced" *nix distros
[11:56] <roconnor> ajmitch: Well, I was trying to build something that and it failed.  When investigating, I stumbled upon this issue, which may or may not be related to my build problem.
[11:56] <user-land> thank you blueeagle.
[11:56] <BlueEagle> user-land: np. :)
[11:56] <aFx> axeeOo : does many user use php?
[11:56] <v3l0ct> DickSmith: uninstall fglrx, go back to ati drivers then reinstall
[11:56] <ajmitch> roconnor: probably unrelated, what were you trying to build?
[11:56] <gnomefreak> roconnor: you will be fine with it its greater than 2.6.11
[11:56] <david83> wrabbit, :) what distro will you be installing?
[11:56] <Phoenix321> rk
[11:56] <axeeOo> aFx: millions
[11:56] <ajmitch> mneptok: poor poor ogra..
[11:56] <roconnor> ajmitch: I'm trying to build http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~zandy/ckpt/
[11:56] <wrabbit^> david83, I'd like to try slackware or a BSD(yeah, I know it's not linux)
[11:57] <wrabbit^> or maybe Gentoo
[11:57] <david83> wrabbit, i thought about gentoo cause it's not that esay to install or linux from scratch
[11:57] <wrabbit^> ^ :)
[11:57] <aFx>  kk
[11:57] <axeeOo> anyone know how to fix vim syntax highliting?
[11:57] <roconnor> gnomefreak: you are saying that using linux-kernel-headers that does not match my kernel version is fine?
[11:57] <ajmitch> roconnor: perfectly fine
[11:57] <david83> !google
[11:57] <ubotu> google is a very popular search engine, http://www.google.com
[11:57] <gnomefreak> yes
[11:57] <david83> :)
[11:57] <roconnor> gnomefreak: odd, but okay then.
[11:57] <mneptok> wrabbit^: want a shell account on my NetBSD/mac68K box? :P
[11:58] <ajmitch> linux-kernel-headers are the userspace headers that don't need to be the same as the kernel version
[11:58] <ajmitch> since the syscall interfaces don't change
[11:58] <user-land> the most important for me is that i can easily disable it, blueeagle. can they both easily be set to allow everything ?
[11:58] <wrabbit^> mneptok, I'd have no idea how to get into it. hehe... ssh?
[11:58] <DickSmith> how do u uninstall fglrx?
[11:58] <mneptok> wrabbit^: exactly. but, it's impossible, as that machine is the NTP server for the Montreal office, and behind a hardened ssh server
[11:59] <wrabbit^> mneptok.  Then don't tease :P
[11:59] <david83> DickSmith: apt-get uninstall or something like that?
[11:59] <wrabbit^> apt-get remove
[11:59] <david83> mneptok, what the thing about HARDENED ?
[12:01] <mneptok> david83: the ssh server does not have a lot of daemons installed, does not allow password auth, uses AES wherever possible, etc etc
[12:01] <mneptok> NetBSD banba 3.0 NetBSD 3.0 (GENERIC) #0: Mon Dec 19 01:12:53 UTC 2005  builds@b4.netbsd.org:/home/builds/ab/netbsd-3-0-RELEASE/mac68k/200512182024Z-obj/home/builds/ab/netbsd-3-0-RELEASE/src/sys/arch/mac68k/compile/GENERIC mac68k
[12:01] <mneptok> delicious
[12:02] <david83> mneptok isn't that normal or a bit thought-about configuration of you ssh-server?
[12:02] <david83> your
[12:03] <mneptok> david83: sshd allows password auth by default. the public-facing server here only allows authroized keys.
[12:04] <wrabbit^> You have one I take it
[12:04] <jeanmi3> is it normal with ubuntu 6.06 kernel  2.6.15-25-386 and the 'tun' module loaded that I can not use tun0 ?
[12:04] <mneptok> i just like the fact that time for the office is controlled by a Mac Quadra 605 that's like 15 years old :)
[12:04] <jeanmi3> could someone here try to modprobe tun && ifconfig tun0 ?
[12:04] <david83> mneptok, i think i got it :) hardend is just that some guys that know about security issues check about the best and most secure config for your server that's all :)
[12:04] <jeanmi3> I am getting "tun0: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[12:05] <mneptok> david83: exactly. it's best practices, not some kind of arcane hardware you can buy ;)
[12:05] <david83> ;)
[12:06] <gnomefreak> jeanmi3: same on edgy
[12:06] <afief> How can i find out what crashed an application?
[12:06] <jeanmi3> gnomefreak thanks
[12:06] <gnomefreak> afief: what app?
[12:06] <mneptok> only Windows sysadmins are stupid enough to believe system security can be sold in a shrink-wrapped box with no user knowledge necessary >:)
[12:06] <afief> gnomefreak: firefox
[12:06] <wrabbit^> +1 to mneptok  :P
[12:07] <david83> mneptok, i know this isn't a PPC linux chat room but do you think i can get any linux running on a Powerbook 520 ?
[12:07] <gnomefreak> afief: oh fun heres easy way remove the flash plugin and see if it still crashes or get the firefox-dgb package and run a debug on it
[12:07] <wrabbit^> david83, I'm guessing that any linux will run on anything if you can config it to
[12:08] <roconnor> gnomefreak: consider include/asm-i386/page.h
[12:08] <[miles] > good afternoon #ubuntu
[12:08] <wrabbit^> hi
[12:08] <mneptok> david83: PPC Linux without OpenFirmware is tricky. Debian has struggled, as have others. you might want to try NetBSD. they have a larger and more active antique Mac crowd at this point.
[12:08] <roconnor> gnomefreak: in linux-headers one has #define PAGE_SIZE ((unsigned long)getpagesize())
[12:08] <david83> wrabbit, well then i have a project for the next 2 years :)
[12:08] <afief> gnomefreak: i have the flash plugin already removed, and it's kinda scary to debug a huge app like firefox, especially since i don't know java script for apps
[12:08] <[miles] > does anyone know of a LinPhone 1.4 .deb repo please? I only see 1.2 in ubuntu atm, and I dont really want to go compiling from source on this laptop
[12:09] <roconnor> gnomefreak: but in linux-headers, one has #define PAGE_SIZE       (1UL << PAGE_SHIFT)
[12:09] <gnomefreak> afief: file a bug and add the debugging info and let us look at it than
[12:09] <afief> gnomefreak: it's not like it freezes, it just exits all of a sudden
[12:09] <wrabbit^> david83, hehe.  Time well spent
[12:09] <wrabbit^> Anybody here learnt python?
[12:09] <gnomefreak> wrabbit^: what about it?
[12:09] <roconnor> gnomefreak: my program that I downloaded uses the PAGE_SIZE in a statically allocated array.
[12:09] <david83> afief, i got the same error all the time :)
[12:09] <roconnor> gnomefreak: thus it cannot make a function call
[12:10] <roconnor> gnomefreak: thus I cannot use the old headers.
[12:10] <wrabbit^> gnomefreak: Nothing special.  Just curious as I've been trying to teach myself the past few days.
[12:10] <afief> gnomefreak: okay, but another question, i have a friend whose whole system freezes quite often, what can i do about that?
[12:10] <ori> Hello, How do you get winrar to work on UBuntu 6.06, or unrar as it was calle,d as they no longer work for me, says they are commercial?
[12:10] <gnomefreak> roconnor: i cant help that your program that you are trying to build is out of date ot doesn call right functions
[12:10] <roconnor> ajmitch: oh, you may be interested in my problem too.
[12:10] <gnomefreak> wrabbit^: #python or #ubuntu-offtopic might beable to help more with it
[12:10] <afief> gnomefreak: also what would i write in my bug report?:S there seems to be no consistent reaoson why it happens, at leasr i can't see a pattern
[12:10] <wrabbit^> ori, there are other tools that'll handle stuff like that.  Ark?
[12:10] <roconnor> gnomefreak: how can my program be out of date when it works with the newer header files?
[12:10] <david83> ori, install it over apt-get?
[12:11] <YBH_1> you can download rar for linux at rarlabs.com
[12:11] <wrabbit^> gnomefreak, thanks
[12:11] <afief> david83: what do you mean?
[12:11] <ori> david i have, unrar package but it doesnt work
[12:11] <gnomefreak> afief: firefox crashes as much info as you can give plus the debugging and any links that are crashing it
[12:11] <david83> ori, unrar-free?
[12:11] <wrabbit^> honesly, FreeNode is a gem
[12:11] <mneptok> unrar is in the apt repos
[12:11] <a_l_e> does anybody use turboprint
[12:11] <a_l_e> ?
[12:11] <ori> unrar-free only opens old type or .rars not the new types that is what i download
[12:11] <mneptok> wrabbit^: the community, or the service itself (re: Freenode)?
[12:12] <ori> something to do with unicode i am unsure of the specifics but i know it doesnt open what i download after its installed
[12:12] <ori> it used to but then i am sure it suddenyl went commercial
[12:12] <ori> as it used to be called unrar not unrar-free
[12:12] <wrabbit^> mneptok, both.
[12:12] <user-land> system monitor is so bad in showing cpu usage ...
[12:12] <wrabbit^> mneptok: It's a great resource
[12:12] <gnomefreak> roconnor: if its calling a function that breezy used and not dapper than hence out of date but since i dont have the script or code for it its hard to say. and btw ubuntu doesnt support 3rd party apps
[12:13] <pluma> How do I automatically check-out data from a locally running SVN repos to a local folder whenever someone commits to a certain folder in SVN?
[12:13] <user-land> cpu usage is around 70% yet system monitor only lists a few apps around 2% ...
[12:13] <david83> ori, unrar-free doesn't worked for me ether just install unrar or ark like somebody said check your repositories to see if you can get it
[12:13] <jaheiska> mo
[12:13] <mneptok> ori: enable Multiverse
[12:13] <ori> unrar is not in there i did do apt search and multiverse is enabled
[12:13] <david83> !repository
[12:13] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:14] <roconnor> gnomefreak: you saw it yourself, it is dapper that is out of date.  It has 2.6.11 kernel-headers.
[12:14] <ori> I completely understand repositories dont worry, And I have all of them ticked apart from the CD's
[12:14] <ori> in software properties
[12:14] <ori> havent added any manually though
[12:14] <david83> ori, did you do a apt-get update  first? i installed it over apt-get and it was found
[12:14] <mneptok> ori: i see it in Multiverse
[12:15] <gnomefreak> roconnor: no
[12:15] <ori> no i dont see it
[12:15] <Gumli> the server edition of ubuntu, how does it's auto partition tool devide the disc up?, /, boot, /swap ?
[12:15] <afief> gnomefreak: okay installing firefox-dbg, but what about the system lock ups?
[12:15] <gnomefreak> roconnor: those are correct for dapper
[12:15] <mneptok> ori: enable Multiverse and update your package info
[12:15] <ori> THat is one strange thing is this a related problem, programs like adobe reader says not available in your software channel, so does a few others, but in the past they worked fine
[12:15] <gnomefreak> afief: i dont know right off hand memory maybe?
[12:15] <roconnor> gnomefreak: then I'm confused.  How can the 2.6.11 kernel-headers be correct for dapper?
[12:15] <user-land> firestarter/iptables was using some 30% of my CPU apparently.
[12:15] <ori> and a friend of mine cannot find DesktopSecure from panda although are settings are exactly the same and i can
[12:15] <mneptok> Gumli: / and swap
[12:16] <david83> ori, check /etc/apt/source.list and take away the # from the lines with multiverse at the end
[12:16] <afief> gnomefreak: is there a way to check what caused it?:S
[12:16] <ori> ok david ill give it a go brb
[12:16] <Gumli> mneptok: really? isn't that kinda "unsafe" ? :(
[12:16] <gnomefreak> roconnor: you didnt listen when we told you before scroll and see what ajmitch told you
[12:16] <ori> another question before i go do that
[12:16] <mneptok> Gumli: how so?
[12:16] <gnomefreak> afief: ps aux and see whats using the cup
[12:16] <gnomefreak> cpu
[12:16] <david83> !ask
[12:16] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:16] <ori> How do you guys rate Panda DesktopSecure or what do you rate in its place as i would like a full GUI system that prompts you for every outbound connection like in windows
[12:17] <Gumli> mneptok: keeping all data in 1 partition, if partition table goes wrong, etc
[12:17] <gnomefreak> roconnor:  ajmitch > linux-kernel-headers are the userspace headers that don't
[12:17] <gnomefreak>                           need to be the same as the kernel version
[12:17] <gnomefreak> 05:58 <         ajmitch > since the syscall interfaces don't change
[12:17] <david83> ori, sorry no experience with that
[12:17] <mneptok> Gumli: if the partition table itself goes bad, multiple partitions are not going to save you.
[12:17] <Gumli> a better chance though
[12:17] <mneptok> no, not at all
[12:17] <roconnor> gnomefreak: but the PAGE_SIZE macro has changed.
[12:18] <mneptok> the partition tabnle defines what partitions exist where on a disk. if it goes bad, all partitions are toast.
[12:18] <ori> david83, which firewall do you use? just leave the back end ipchains working and no front end GUI?
[12:18] <gnomefreak> roconnor: in the script not in the headers
[12:18] <Gumli> just thought it was common to devide up the drive, /, /boot, /home, swap, /usr and so on
[12:18] <roconnor> gnomefreak: in the headers:  in asm-i386/page.h specifically.  Isn't that a header?
[12:19] <variant> Gumli: it is a good idea
[12:19] <ori> david83 they are all uncommented apart from the CD
[12:19] <gnomefreak> roconnor: should be. but was it changed from breezy to dapper?
[12:19] <david83> ori, is there a default firewall with ubuntu? i guess i don't use one the router is my only protection
[12:19] <variant> Gumli: boot contains the kernel and if its on a seperate parition then you can have it unmounted during use whcih is good
[12:19] <ori> Well, thats where people fall down
[12:19] <ori> they think a router protects them completely, not saying you do
[12:19] <ori> but alot do
[12:19] <gnomefreak> roconnor: grab the change logs for the headers and make sure nothing has changed that the script is caling
[12:19] <variant> Gumli: if /var is on a seperate partition or even disk then you can mount it no exec which is good for security
[12:19] <wrabbit^> Where do I find Control Center in KDE?
[12:20] <wrabbit^> Can't see it anywhere
[12:20] <ori> viruses trojans rootkits make connections outbound and your router allows it as it thinks its you
[12:20] <yallax> heyas all
[12:20] <hoelk> wrabbit: alt+f2 and enter "kcontrol"
[12:20] <ori> a router is great from a guy out on the net port scanning you who dont even know you
[12:20] <Gumli> variant: oki, i'll just have to do it manualy then :)
[12:20] <variant> Gumli: home is good on a seperate parititon as it keeps you seperate from the rest of the system
[12:20] <ori> but a targeted attack on an individual wont be stopped by a router
[12:20] <yallax> damn just noticed how good the Gaim clirnt is for irc :P
[12:20] <wrabbit^> hoelk, very nice, thanks
[12:20] <david83> ori, i don't think i need protection as i know that nothing important is on my pc and  not much daemons are running
[12:20] <variant> Gumli: and you can then use different file systems for each as each is used for different reasons
[12:20] <hoelk> np
[12:20] <ori> and people are very naeive (however you spell :P) thinking LInux is unbelievable secure
[12:20] <roconnor> gnomefreak: oh, I get what you are saying now!  ubuntu doesn't support 3rd party software.  It suddenly sinks in.
[12:21] <roconnor> gnomefreak: you guys don't promise to have recent linux-kernel-headers.
[12:21] <ori> sure david83 thats fine, I have important documents on mine so it needs protecting
[12:21] <czekista> hello :)
[12:21] <ori> nothing that will shock the world if leaked :P, but important to me
[12:21] <variant> Gumli: i use ext2 on /boot as there is no need for a journal and you want data integrity to be a priority for the kernel
[12:21] <david83> ori, get them on CD :)
[12:21] <ori> lol, oh they are.. but they are needed to be on the box at all times :)
[12:21] <david83> ori, or read-only most of the time
[12:22] <gnomefreak> roconnor: they are recent. im reading what you are saying and it seems you dont know the difference between linux-kernel-headers and linux-headers
[12:22] <roconnor> gnomefreak: So I have to adapt the program I get to work with ubuntu.
[12:22] <ori> hmm i am unsure david83 at how to get this rar to work,
[12:22] <czekista> is there any plugin that allows for viewing pdf files unser webrowser really fast?
[12:22] <gnomefreak> roconnor: you might have to yes
[12:22] <ori> i have tried ark before and that doesnt work I know that
[12:22] <Gumli> variant: ext3 / reiserFS for the rest?
[12:22] <david83> hmmm
[12:22] <Gumli> variant: or do you mix match?
[12:22] <roconnor> gnomefreak: oh, yes, I do not understand the difference.  They seem to contain the same files.
[12:22] <ori> could you download it from apt-get and then get it from the folder the .deb and send it me?
[12:22] <variant> Gumli: ubuntu is fine with about 50 mb for boot but you willneed to clean out old kjernels after a few months/years depending on how often you upgrade
[12:22] <variant> Gumli: exactly
[12:23] <david83> ori, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1070.html try this one
[12:23] <gnomefreak> roconnor: you might want to re-read where ever you read that from because they dont contain the exact same files
[12:23] <variant> Gumli: reiserfs is popular for home dir
[12:23] <Gumli> mneptok: hehe :)
[12:23] <david83> ori, to much stress :)
[12:23] <david83> too
[12:23] <roconnor> gnomefreak: okay, let me be specific.  the linux-kernel-headers has installed /usr/include/asm-i386/page.h
[12:23] <variant> Gumli: the fact is that unless you are using the system to its limmits then you wont notice any difference between the file systems perfomance (except the journal vs no journal ones)
[12:23] <wrabbit^> anybody know how to make firefox my default broswer? I've tried in both firefox and kconsole
[12:23] <ori> I have searched all of sites i can think of and I have tried what they say with no luck really, and this is the annoying thing it worked find before, could it be that the rar is on the CD?
[12:23] <roconnor> gnomefreak: and now I see that I was somewhat mistaken, ... anyhow, I also have a /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15-27-686/include/asm-i386/page.h
[12:24] <yallax>  what is the best/fastest virtual pc program to use, if i want to use linux on windows? virtual pc/vmware..etc or native in windows..
[12:24] <roconnor> gnomefreak: these are two different files.
[12:24] <variant> Gumli: you might be best to use ext3 for / and /home
[12:24] <[miles] > guys, is there an easy configurator for XGL yet, like in SLED?
[12:24] <variant> Gumli: you can disable the journal on an ext3 parition making it ext2 and thus you can probably open it under windows with ext2 progs for win
[12:25] <mneptok> Gumli: stick with ext2/ext3. the utilities for them are MUCH more mature.
[12:25] <Gumli> variant: and with my destuctive nature, that probaly isn't a bad thing :P
[12:25] <variant> Gumli: heeh
[12:25] <david83_away> ori, it won't be on CD for sure because it is not freeware
[12:26] <roconnor> gnomefreak: why are these files different?
[12:26] <variant> david83: freeware? there is no freeware on the ubuntu CD
[12:26] <mneptok> variant: the ext2 drivers for Win32 work fine with ext3
[12:26] <Gumli> but if im going to split up partitions myself and etc, is there a real difference between ubuntu and debian?
[12:26] <david83> variant software under gpl
[12:26] <variant> mneptok: yeah? cool
[12:26] <variant> david83: software under the GPL is NOT freeware
[12:27] <david83> variant sry!
[12:27] <variant> david83: so you should be :P
[12:27] <david83> ;P
[12:27] <david83> ori wb
[12:27] <Flamekebab> Does anyone know the actual pricing on crossover office standard, the educational version? (I'm a poor student, but I'd like to actually buy it)
[12:27] <variant> bbl
[12:28] <mneptok> variant: http://fs-driver.org/ <--- (if you care;) )
[12:28] <david83> !bbl
[12:28] <ori> THANKS COMPUTER CRASHED ON ME
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bbl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <ori> sorry caps
[12:28] <david83> ori, why did it crash? what did you do?
[12:29] <kishore> other than ext2 and ext3 fs . wot are present
[12:29] <mneptok> kishore: present on what?
[12:29] <david83> variant, are you a programmer or developer?
[12:29] <roconnor> gnomefreak: because if I had the headers from the sources, then things would work for me (even if you guys don't support 3rd party software).
[12:29] <ori> i have an annoying error on this computer, when the system sounds bleep twice in a row perhaps its because i cant type on a line nemore so it bleeps, after two bleeps the whole thing restarts
[12:29] <kishore> i mean on ext2 and ext3 are only there.??
[12:29] <mneptok> kishore: "there" where?
[12:29] <ori> and it has done that for a very long time, but i only trigger it ever so few days/weeks
[12:29] <roconnor> gnomefreak: so I'm pretty surprised that the header I do have are different from the headers from the sources.
[12:29] <kishore> in general
[12:30] <kishore> ext2 ext3...?
[12:30] <Flamekebab> Furthermore, I don't suppose anyone knows about LEAP and PEAP under Dapper?
[12:30] <Gumli> kishore: reiserFS, XFS, JFS
[12:30] <david83> ori, like when you extend a command in console with TAB?
[12:30] <mneptok> +n
[12:30] <david83> +1
[12:31] <ori> no it doesnt bleep then, it bleeped when i pressed enter but it couldnt enter and as i pressed it twice fast
[12:31] <ori> it bleeped twice so off it went
[12:31] <ori> david83 what do you rate of this sources list file on this page, is it similiar to yours? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[12:31] <pof> hey
[12:34] <david83> ori, sorry i got breezy but still checking :)
[12:34] <jazzrocker> hi, i think i'm missing the alsa modules
[12:34] <ori> :) np
[12:34] <jazzrocker> how can i reinstall and or reconfigure alsa?
[12:35] <chemaja> http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/talk.html
[12:35] <jazzrocker> prior to this i was using OSS by 4Front technologies which is a commercially licensed driver
[12:35] <ori> put it this way with one of those repositories it helps me find the unrar version the non free version, which one would that be?
[12:35] <jazzrocker> i've got the nvidia nForce 3 250G chipset with the AC'97 aka intel8x0 chipset
[12:36] <jazzrocker> but when i: sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0
[12:36] <jazzrocker> i get "fatal not found"
[12:36] <jazzrocker> i looked in /lib/modules/<mykernel>/
[12:36] <jazzrocker> but i didn't see any sound modules in there
[12:37] <ori> I have to go david83 but I will be back in 20mins or so, maybe less...
[12:37] <david83> ori, didn't you have them already all?
[12:37] <david83> ori, ok
[12:37] <kyja> is there something wrong with paste bin or is it me?
[12:38] <jazzrocker> pastebin.com is slow as hell
[12:38] <jazzrocker> kyja, there are other paste alternatives
[12:38] <kyja> is there
[12:38] <jazzrocker> kyja, should be one in the topic
[12:38] <Devil_Kin> heya folks
[12:38] <oskude> jazzrocker: try snd_intel8x0
[12:38] <david83> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[12:38] <Devil_Kin> how 'usable' is the edgy eft?
[12:38] <jazzrocker> oskude, same thing
[12:39] <kyja> david83, yeah thats the one I am having trouble with. almost a blank page.
[12:39] <user-land> blueeagle, how can i make sure firestarter does not activate iptable on the next reboot ?
[12:39] <zaydana> is there a command like apt-cache search which only searches through currently installed packages?
[12:39] <oskude> jazzrocker: hmm, well, i got "snd_intel8x0" in lsmod
[12:39] <gnomefreak> Devil_Kin: it depends on how comfortable you are with fixing broken apps
[12:39] <david83> kyja, it worked perfect for me sorry http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25799/
[12:40] <Devil_Kin> gnomefreak: define broken? i usually run debian sid, so it depends on the level of brokenness ;)
[12:40] <jazzrocker> oskude, locate shows me only the header files for intel8x0
[12:40] <gnomefreak> Devil_Kin: broken depends on upgrade including X and X packages
[12:40] <jazzrocker> oskude, e.g. /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-23-k7/include/config/snd/intel8x0m/module.h
[12:40] <stelki> i anybody else experiencing some weird lockups in X? Using nvidia drivers, installed from "easyubuntu"
[12:40] <Devil_Kin> hmm, that's fixable
[12:41] <gnomefreak> Devil_Kin: i know i can fix it but i dont know what others are able to do
[12:41] <jazzrocker> Devil_Kin, happen to know how to bring alsa back to life again?
[12:41] <kyja> david83, what I am missing is the list on the right of recent posts. and it does not even have a way I can ul a pic if needed anymore.
[12:41] <kyja> oh well
[12:41] <david83> kyja, try http://pastebin.ca http://paste.uni.cc
[12:41] <kyja> k
[12:41] <jazzrocker> interesting, actually i do have this: /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-686/kernel/sound/pci/snd-intel8x0.ko
[12:42] <jazzrocker> but that's the only one
[12:42] <jazzrocker> i guess i could use the 686 kernel instead of the k7 image which i'm using now, but why isn't this driver at least in the base 386 modules dir?
[12:43] <jazzrocker> is there a dpkg command i can reconfigure alsa with?
[12:43] <oskude> jazzrocker: i got only this too /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-k7/kernel/sound/pci/snd-intel8x0.ko
[12:43] <jazzrocker> oskude, and which kernel are you running?
[12:44] <oskude> jazzrocker: guess ;)
[12:44] <jazzrocker> oskude, no, i'd rather not :)
[12:44] <oskude> jazzrocker: well, the kernel version is on that path i posted :/ 2.6.15-27-k7
[12:44] <jazzrocker> the question is, how do i get that module installed for my current kernel
[12:44] <jazzrocker> oskude, that doesn't mean it's your running kernel
[12:45] <jazzrocker> oskude, that's just the version of that file
[12:45] <jazzrocker> anyway
[12:45] <oskude> jazzrocker: well, i wouldnt have posted it if im not using it...
[12:45] <jazzrocker> oskude, nevermind, you don't understand
[12:46] <kyja> ok I continue to use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ becuase I think I like it the most. however it seems they have taken away the recent post list and posiblity to add pict. the recent list is not a problem realy.
[12:47] <rendez> Hello! Can I consult someone about Ubuntu as a server operating system?
[12:47] <david83> kyja so it did work out fine in the end that good to hear
[12:48] <oskude> render: you dont "consult" anyone, you "consult" all, so just ask...
[12:48] <kyja> david83, yeah works fast too. gives me the post id at the end of the link.
[12:49] <oskude> render: sorry, ment rendez you dont "consult" anyone, you "consult" all, so just ask...
[12:49] <sonium_> http://tinyurl.com/p257o <- I wonder why there is no peak in ubuntu.com's traffic now
[12:49] <michele> hello
[12:49] <michele> anybody using nedit in edgy?
[12:49] <whitedeth> anyone know a good software to play FLV videos??
[12:49] <oskude> !edgy > michele
[12:49] <rendez> Anyone here?
[12:50] <michele> thank you oskude
[12:50] <buzzy> people i have installed soundconverter but it does not start!!! why? (i m on kubuntu and it's based on gnome: is this the problem?)
[12:50] <oskude> !rendez > ask
[12:50] <oskude> hups
[12:50] <oskude> !ask > rendez
[12:51] <oskude> buzzy: (i m on kubuntu and it's based on gnome: is this the problem?) no
[12:51] <mneptok> coffee | oskude > better_typing
[12:51] <mneptok> :P
[12:51] <peija-kas> buzzy if you have installed it in KDE, u also sholuld have gnome libraries installed
[12:51] <peija-kas> so it should work
[12:51] <oskude> mneptok: dont trink coffee, thanx
[12:51] <buzzy> !lame
[12:51] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB
[12:51] <peija-kas> and these are automatically installed as dependencies when u install gnome apps for first time
[12:51] <mneptok> oskude: this coffee will be administered via another orifice ;)
[12:51] <rendez> Okay, so, everyone:P Is ubuntu a great server operating system then?
[12:52] <peija-kas> you guys ever eaten Coffee Shots?
[12:52] <suk4> alguien habla en espaol y me puede ayudar?
[12:52] <peija-kas> roasted coffee beans covered in chocolate?
[12:52] <oskude> rendez: define "great"
[12:52] <peija-kas> theyre great ;)
[12:52] <rendez> well
[12:52] <mneptok> !en > suk4
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about en - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <mneptok> !es > suk4
[12:52] <devy> how can i install kde to be like this -> http://www.kde.org/screenshots/images/3.3/snapshot13.png now i am using gnome.
[12:52] <gandalfcome> why isnt webmin included in ubuntu is there another/better tool?
[12:52] <rendez> easy to use as a first-time-linux-user
[12:52] <peija-kas> i define great as - coffee beans!!
[12:52] <mneptok> devy: you want KDE instead of GNOME?
[12:52] <gandalfcome> on a server i mean
[12:52] <peija-kas> rendez - i consider ubuntu easy to use foir beginners
[12:52] <devy> mneptok, yes
[12:53] <rendez> well
[12:53] <peija-kas> since i can use it and i was a beginner when i started using it ;)
[12:53] <rendez> can I use the desktop edition as a server?
[12:53] <peija-kas> yes
[12:53] <oskude> rendez: well, server is never easy for "first-time-users" (except some click to continue systems)
[12:53] <whitedeth> what software do I use to play FLV? Anyone know?
[12:53] <peija-kas> flv?
[12:53] <whitedeth> flash video
[12:53] <devy> mneptok, I installed kde typeing this cmd: sudo apt-get install kde and i after that i reboot, nothing happends.
[12:53] <whitedeth> its what's used on YouTube
[12:53] <devy> mneptok, sorry for my english.
[12:53] <mneptok> devy: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[12:53] <whitedeth> but for offline saved files, what would I use?
[12:53] <peija-kas> flash player or thee free alternative
[12:54] <gnomefreak> mneptok: that wont remove anything
[12:54] <jazzrocker> oskude, reinstall of linux-image-k7 did the trick :)
[12:54] <peija-kas> or does VLC know how to play those..
[12:54] <whitedeth> naw, the flash player or the alt, neither will play those.
[12:54] <oskude> jazzrocker: nice
[12:54] <rendez> oskude: I know how linux works, and have been using it a little, but I have no experience with using it as a server operating system
[12:54] <whitedeth> there's VLC for ubuntu?!
[12:54] <whitedeth> why was I never told of this blasphemy?! :|
[12:54] <gnomefreak> roconnor: you still here i have a fix for ya
[12:54] <devy> mneptok, i have to do first sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop ?
[12:54] <oskude> render: well, where should be the difference ? you only dont run x and have more services running (normally)
[12:55] <gnomefreak> roconnor: change the code to use sysconf(_SC_PAGESIZE) instead of the  PAGE_SIZE constant, and it'll be all good.
[12:55] <rendez> oskude: okay
[12:55] <gnomefreak> devy: apt-get remove will not remove anything ubuntu-desktop installed
[12:55] <tucoz>  I have a strange problem in edgy. I can use my synaptics touchpad, but according Xorg.0.log the synaptics touchpad is not found and the module is unloaded.
[12:55] <rendez> oskude: i know theres a server edition, but does it have a GUI?
[12:55] <tucoz> is the correct device /dev/psaux? or is it some of the devices in /dev/input?
[12:55] <mneptok> devy: install kubuntu-desktop first
[12:55] <devy> mneptok, ok.
[12:56] <oskude> render: no (as installed by default) as GUI doesnt have anything to do in server
[12:56] <mneptok> rendez: no, servers should not have GUIs.
[12:56] <flake> hi
[12:56] <rofl0r> lo
[12:57] <oskude> rendez: but, you can allways install the desktop version, and install apache, ready, you have a http server...
[12:57] <mneptok> rendez: be aware that every package you install on a server is another potential break point for bugs that could cause system compromise.
[12:57] <gnomefreak> devy: mneptok to remove all gtk apps you need to remove libgtk... removing ubuntu-desktop will _not_ remove anything but ubuntu-desktop package you will still have all gnome apps and everything else installed
[12:57] <flake> every time i reboot my laptop i have to manually reconnect the eth1 wireless thingy - is there a shell command to do that
[12:58] <mneptok> gnomefreak: right, so the apps devy was using before will work, but he'll get a KDE desktop
[12:58] <flake> I use System -> Networking
[12:58] <flake> and change something to get it to reconnect when i close it
[12:58] <devy> yes, tha
[12:58] <devy> that's true
[12:58] <gnomefreak> mneptok: yes and i dont recommend removing ubuntu-desktop if he plans on keeping gnome
[12:58] <oskude> flake: are you using edgy ?
[12:59] <flake> i use kubuntu
[12:59] <oskude> !kubuntu
[12:59] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. To downgrade your version of kubuntu to an older version see: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=609.0
[12:59] <gnomefreak> ubuntu-desktop is needed when using dist-upgrade so if he wants to upgrade to edgy when its released he will need that package
[12:59] <oskude> hmm, didnt kubutu have #kubuntu ?
[12:59] <gnomefreak> flake: what kernel are you using?
[12:59] <gnomefreak> oskude: so does xubuntu
[01:00] <flake> the 6.06
[01:00] <oskude> gnomefreak: maybe someone should add #kubuntu to !kubuntu
[01:00] <flake> linux 2. something
[01:00] <flake> 2.41 or 42 or 2.14?  unsure
[01:01] <flake> linux kernel
[01:01] <oskude> flake: uname -r (shows your kernel)
[01:01] <flake> 2.6.15-27-386
[01:02] <roconnor> gnomefreak: thanks for the fix
[01:02] <gnomefreak> roconnor: yw
[01:02] <adrian15> who has asked 1h1/2 before if there was anyone Spanish? I was talking to him
[01:02] <apokryphos> !no kubuntu is <reply> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org for support: #kubuntu ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:02] <gnomefreak> oskude: changed
[01:02] <ubotu> I'll remember that, apokryphos
[01:02] <gnomefreak> ack
[01:02] <roconnor> gnomefreak: althought I'm still confused as to why the files in linux-source and linux-kernel-headers are different. :)
[01:02] <gnomefreak> apokryphos: i just added #kubuntu to it
[01:02] <apokryphos> heh ;)
[01:03] <david83> !test
[01:03] <ubotu> Failed.
[01:03] <gnomefreak> roconnor: dapper changed things the person i got fix from has been changing things for that for over a year
[01:03] <david83> !test Test
[01:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about test Test - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:03] <gnomefreak> roconnor: its different in edgy
[01:03] <roconnor> gnomefreak: ah
[01:03] <apokryphos> !botabuse
[01:03] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[01:03] <david83> k
[01:04] <gnomefreak> ok this isnt good ill bbl i hope
[01:04] <roconnor> gnomefreak: Thanks for all your help1
[01:05] <gnomefreak> yw
[01:05] <jazzrocker> is there a utility to tell me exactly how much ram i have?
[01:05] <gnomefreak> top
[01:05] <XiXaQ> flake, free or top
[01:05] <XiXaQ> sorry
[01:05] <flake> if i do auto eht1 in my /etc/network/interfaces, will that connect me on boot?
[01:05] <flake> free or top?
[01:06] <XiXaQ> flake, wrong nickname. :) It was for jazzrocker..
[01:06] <adrian15> flake: it's eth1 not eht1
[01:06] <jazzrocker> hmm, interesting
[01:06] <ori> david83 you still about?
[01:06] <flake> typo, sorry
[01:06] <jazzrocker> i bought what was supposed to be a gig stick but they gave me a 512
[01:06] <flake> i guess iface .. is defining the interface
[01:06] <flake> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[01:07] <david83> ori, i am still here
[01:07] <flake> but i dont see  auto eth1
[01:07] <oskude> jazzrocker: then go back and change it
[01:07] <jazzrocker> yeah, i know, i will, that's gonna be a pain though. but whatever. they're not open right now.
[01:07] <ori> Well I did have those in there but i dont know if it was the exact same sites if you know what i mean
[01:07] <ori> I had the backports security and all of those in Software Properties enabled
[01:07] <ori> but after putting that in the sources.list file i picked up rar but got alot of conflicting repo's
[01:08] <david83> ori, i thought we were searching for unrar
[01:08] <flake> trying auto eth1 now in my interfaces.. rebooting laptop
[01:09] <howieson26> !de
[01:09] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:10] <yallax> is there possible to get ubuntu/gnome running in CoLinux? to mee it seems its only console.. http://www.colinux.org/
[01:10] <Jaak_> i need to configure the right audio device for teamspeak
[01:11] <Jaak_> what driver do i set up
[01:11] <Jaak_> default is oss /dev/dsp
[01:11] <oskude> Jaak_: and that doesnt work ?
[01:11] <Jaak_> don
[01:11] <Jaak_> no
[01:12] <oskude> Jaak_: do you have sounds elswhere in ubuntu ?
[01:12] <david83> Jaak_, is it possible that that it is /dev/dsp0 ??
[01:12] <oskude> Jaak_: then try alsa (but /dev/dsp should be right)
[01:12] <Jaak_> ok
[01:13] <djuuss> Hey can anyone think of a GUI frontend for cdemu? Or similar
[01:13] <oskude> Jaak_: do you have more than one soundcard ?
[01:13] <Dr_willis> !info cdemu
[01:13] <ubotu> Package cdemu does not exist in any distro I know
[01:13] <oskude> Jaak_: sorry, gotta go home
[01:14] <timalot> why dont alot ot the changelogs show up when u click on packages listed in the software update window? ,,, i am not updating till i get a changelog
[01:14] <djuuss> !info kcdemu
[01:14] <ubotu> Package kcdemu does not exist in any distro I know
[01:14] <Jaak_> it says my soud is muted
[01:14] <david83> Jaak, did you check the permissions for /dev/dsp and if it excist in your system?
[01:15] <buzzy> how is automatix?
[01:15] <Jaak_> how do i set it to alsa? /dev/alsa?
[01:16] <david83> Jaak, no no not /dev/alsa alsa is just the driver your soundcard is using
[01:16] <Dr_willis> buzzy,  best avoided
[01:16] <buzzy> !automatix
[01:16] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[01:16] <buzzy> Dr_willis, why?
[01:16] <devy> mneptok, after that what i have to do, reboot?
[01:17] <Dr_willis> buzzy,  its BEST to learn to install/do the things it does manually,  Its been known to break systems.
[01:17] <buzzy> ok
[01:18] <devy> gnomefreak, after that what i have to do, reboot?
[01:18] <Dr_willis> Ive seen quite a few people come in here and state a problem similer to.... "I Used automatix and now.... XYZ  is broke...  how do i fix"   (and no one knows how to fix it) :)
[01:18] <gnomefreak> log out and on the log in screen click sessions and log into kde if you want to use kde
[01:19] <devy> gnomefreak, ok thank you
[01:19] <gnomefreak> yw
[01:19] <MrNaz> is there a charmap program in ubuntu? how do you get characters like the (c) copyright symbol and the (tm) symbol etc?
[01:20] <adrian15> MrNaz: Have you gone to Tools or Accesories ?
[01:20] <gnomefreak> *warning* if you ping me and i dont answer dont be suprised there is a big issue near me im watching
[01:20] <Cartas> Hi old chaps! Anybody here capable of solving no-internet problems in ubuntu? :o
[01:20] <MrNaz> adrian15: uh oh... it's obvious and its there isnt it? i really should look before i ask dumb questions
[01:20] <tehstev> hey - any way to change the behavior of ctrl-left/right in text fields? The default non-word characters make it pretty unusable
[01:21] <gnomefreak> Cartas: you have a better chance of just stating your issue
[01:21] <devy> gnomefreak, what i have to select, gdm or kdm ? it says: "select the desired default display manager" ?
[01:21] <wodz> what happens, step-by-step, when new usb pendrive is inserted? What is responsible for pup-up' new drive icon on desktop?
[01:21] <flake> didn't work, auto eth1 kept me from pinging on boot
[01:21] <gnomefreak> devy: i normally use gdm but you can choose whatever one you want gdm/kdm are the login screens
[01:21] <Cartas> Well, I installed ubuntu -> No internet -> Downloaded a package for USB ADSL modems, as well as a package for PPPoE, yet my internet does not work.
[01:21] <Cartas> Any help would be greatly appreciated! :O
[01:22] <flake> is there a way to activate eth1 without going into system/networking on boot?
[01:22] <devy> gnomefreak, ok :)
[01:22] <flake> it says it's activated when i go in there, but lies i tell you, all lies!!!
[01:23] <flake> have to change something to make it update, then it clocks for a few seconds saying 'Activating eth1'
[01:23] <david83> Cartas, did you do any configuration?
[01:23] <Cartas> Hm
[01:23] <Cartas> Not that I know of? :o
[01:23] <flake> then voila i am on until i reboot
[01:23] <jolt> Question, why doesnt Ubuntus version of netscape appear to remote hosts as a standard version of firefox?
[01:23] <ori> sorry david38 yeah I mean unrar
[01:23] <ori> david83*
[01:23] <jolt> Iv had sites complain im not using Firefox 1.5
[01:23] <Cartas> david83: I did this in the terminal: "sudo pppoeconf"
[01:24] <Cartas> But I got an error.
[01:24] <flake> btw eth1 is the wireless connection on laptop gateway
[01:24] <valehru> Whats the best HTML application to use in ubuntu for designing?  NVU?  Looking for a dreamweaver clone..
[01:24] <david83> ori, so what is the status? :D
[01:25] <david83> Cartas, what error?
[01:25] <gnomefreak> valehru: nvu or bluefish nvu is closer to dreamweaver
[01:25] <Cartas> Basically saying, "Sorry, I only found 1 Eth connection"
[01:25] <Cartas> Or something.
[01:25] <mneptok> devy: yes, reboot
[01:25] <valehru> gnomefreak, thanks
[01:25] <gnomefreak> valehru: yw
[01:25] <ori> well David it did install and It is working but now I have conflicting repo's for some reason even though i deleted all those listed before and then pasted those from that site
[01:25] <devy> mneptok,  :)
[01:25] <mneptok> nighty kids. thanks for using Ubuntu! :)
[01:26] <david83> ori, sorry to here that
[01:26] <david83> ori, but repositories and conflicting dependencies is not something i know about
[01:27] <tehstev> anybody know of a way to change the behavior of ctrl-left/right in text fields?
[01:28] <ori> ok david83, are you around later on in say 5-7 hours?
[01:29] <BlueEagle> tehstev: Which text fields are you talking about?
[01:30] <BlueEagle> tehstev: ie. do you want ctrl+arrow to skip the entire word left or right?
[01:30] <david83> ori, maybe why?
[01:30] <david83> ori, i said i can't help you fix your repository problem sorry
[01:30] <ori> I have to skidaddle (Heh what a word), but will be back then to let you know if its resolved and that
[01:31] <tehstev> BlueEagle: yah, by default it skips over too many characters
[01:31] <tehstev> BlueEagle: so i'm wondering if there is a setting somewhere to edit the list of non-word characters
[01:31] <beergutxl> Hi can anyone help me with a trash/wastebasket problem?
[01:32] <XiXaQ> beergutxl, just ask a question.
[01:32] <david83> ori, maybe see you around quere me if i am there bye have fun
[01:32] <airox> Hello.
[01:32] <ori> you too mate, btw just before i go, are the repo's i shown you on that site the same you have? because now i can download all the thigns i couldnt before
[01:33] <Piglet> hi , i'm new with Ubuntu . can anyone tell me if i can Share My Internet Connection on Ubuntu
[01:33] <anTiX_> hm the partitioner was a pain in dapper, hope it will work better in edgy...
[01:33] <airox> I'm using Ubuntu right now and am wanted to know if there is a way of opening files with the application that's normally used for it but as root.
[01:33] <beergutxl> For some reason my wastebasket applet does not applet to be using the same directory as nautillus is mmoving files too
[01:33] <airox> Right now the only way I can open files that I can't access is by using some console commands.
[01:33] <airox> I want something like: "Open as root"
[01:34] <beergutxl> sorry second applet should be appear
[01:34] <airox> Is there some nautilus script for it ?
[01:34] <airox> Ubuntu should do this by default imho.
[01:34] <XiXaQ> beergutxl,  why? Which version do you use?
[01:34] <david83> ori, it seem to me i have another distro (breezy) then you have but most off the universe and multiverse stuff was the same
[01:34] <devy> gnomefreak, well, when i reboot it says kubuntu instead of ubuntu and my login windows was with kubuntu icons but my desktop it's the same. sorry for my english.
[01:34] <anTiX_> airox, gksudo
[01:34] <timalot> airox: well ive got a "edit as root" nautilus script.... but i dont know about the file assoc... thing
[01:35] <beergutxl> Dapper this is the account made during installation from the text installer off the DVD
[01:35] <devy> gnomefreak, i don't want gnome anymore just I want to be like in that screen shot.
[01:35] <airox> Woulnd't it be a great idea that if the files aren't readable to place a gksudo nautilius script in between ?
[01:35] <airox> So someone can edit and maybe even browse the whole filesystem.
[01:35] <airox> Or open a file etc.
[01:36] <XiXaQ> beergutxl, what do you mean the thrash doesn't use the same folder as nautilus?
[01:36] <beergutxl> deleting in nautillus moves files to $HOME/.Trash
[01:36] <airox> timalot: That would be a self installed script I guess ?
[01:36] <beergutxl> Which has quite a bit in
[01:36] <beergutxl> the applet in gnome has no files in
[01:38] <timalot> airox: yes... i found the command now... if u use the command gnome-open <file> then it will open it withe the associated program ... use this with gksudo ... to do what u want
[01:38] <ori> bye guyes
[01:38] <ori> and thanks again david83 talk later on ;)
[01:38] <airox> timalot: Exactly.
[01:38] <airox> It would be nice to put a gksudo gnome-open on every file or folder that isn't readable.
[01:38] <airox> So users CAN browse and edit.
[01:39] <airox> I wonder how much work this would be.
[01:39] <airox> Sounds like a small script :)
[01:39] <devy> gnomefreak, still there?
[01:39] <gnomefreak> devy: not really there a problem about 6 miles from me and im waiting for them to evacuate me
[01:39] <timalot> airox: just use a nuatilus script....
[01:40] <frogzoo> is there a way to stop the 'nohup' creating nohup.out ?
[01:40] <devy> gnomefreak, you didn't saw that link?
[01:40] <adis_j> could anyone help me?  I have trouble with my sound card
[01:40] <adis_j> i tryed everything, but it didn't worked
[01:40] <gnomefreak> no im not paying attention to IRC right now
[01:41] <devy> gnomefreak, 1 minute please.
[01:41] <devy> gnomefreak, i don't want gnome anymore just I want to be like in that screen shot. http://www.kde.org/screenshots/images/3.3/snapshot13.png
[01:41] <devy> gnomefreak, well, when i reboot it says kubuntu instead of ubuntu and my login windows was with kubuntu icons but my desktop it's the same. sorry for my english.
[01:41] <jrib> frogzoo: redirect the output to /dev/null
[01:42] <gnomefreak> devy: your loggin into gnome cllick sessions than click kde than log in
[01:42] <gnomefreak> im sorry im gone
[01:42] <Fackamato> how do I choose what the default resolution for X should be?
[01:42] <frogzoo> jrib: gosh, I feel sheepish, thx
[01:42] <Fackamato> i.e. the resolution GDM use
[01:42] <Fackamato> s
[01:43] <Fackamato> it always uses the highest it can from xorg.conf, I don't want that..
[01:43] <frogzoo> Fackamato: preferences -> resolution
[01:43] <Fackamato> does not c hange GDM resolution :\
[01:43] <david83> Fackamato, or change in the xorg.conf?
[01:43] <Fackamato> yeah, but how?
[01:44] <anTiX_> Fackamato, try ctrl+alt+ +/-
[01:44] <Fackamato> anTiX_, when I've got my resolution I want in GDM, will it be the default after that?
[01:44] <Fackamato> aha
[01:44] <david83> Fackamato, vi /../xorg.conf  search for the linies with the resolution and put a # on the ones with the high resolution you don't want
[01:44] <Fackamato> the left-most resolution in xorg is used first.
[01:45] <anTiX_> Fackamato, ok. doesn't the Screen Resolution preferences item set the default?
[01:45] <Fackamato> not for GDM it doesn't (afaik)
[01:45] <anTiX_> ok
[01:45] <Fackamato> just for the user's desktop
[01:46] <highneko> The maximum resolution I can get on ubuntu is 1024x768. Is it possible to make it better?
[01:46] <flake> oh man, sorry for offtopic, but am running the bf2142 demo
[01:48] <apokryphos> highneko: please check the faq
[01:48] <anTiX_> highneko, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:49] <beergut> sorry my router crashed was beergutxl
[01:50] <Seveas> hello. splitters
[01:50] <Seveas> Please stay with us this time ;)
[01:51] <EinZteiN> haha
[01:51] <rixth> Wow, that was  apretty big spliet...
[01:54] <Cartas> I followed this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Broadband_ADSL.2FPPPoE_Client_.28RP-PPPoE.29
[01:54] <Cartas> Yet I still can't get my internet to work!
[01:58] <Belboz99> Hey all, when did the compiz repo's break?
[02:03] <highneko> I can't get my resolution to change. I ran a program and setup everything, It said I could have better resolution, but nothing has changed. Any ideas?
[02:04] <jrib> highneko: system > preferences > screen resolution  not working?
[02:04] <highneko> Nope, same res ;(
[02:04] <tabman> I have a directory which has multiple jar files, I want to add the full directory into my CLASSPATH, how can I do that ?
[02:04] <highneko> I picked a higher resolution I thought. Maby I didn't do it right.
[02:04] <yallax> highneko: what graphic card do you have? and have you installed any drivers?
[02:04] <highneko> intel, no.
[02:05] <yallax> tried to change the xorg.conf?
[02:05] <highneko> I looked at it! Don't know what to change. I've had to restore that file a few times, and dont' wanna do it again!
[02:06] <Daverocks> hey, i'm trying to install ubuntu 6.06 on a desktop a couple of years old, but i can't get past the first steps
[02:06] <Daverocks> it hangs at "mounting root file system" for about a minute, then drops me to an ash shell
[02:06] <tabman> Daverocks: your hardware specs might be low
[02:07] <Daverocks> tabman: they're pretty decent... it's a 2.8 GHz celeron with 512 MB RAM, 40 GB hdd, and i think the FSB is also reasonable
[02:08] <tabman> Daverocks: you mentioned couple of years old thats why I thought, but I'm currently running Ubuntu with the same specs as yorus
[02:08] <yallax> etc/X11/xorg.conf  just look for "section screen" beneeth that is the diffrent resolutions you can have with each colour option
[02:08] <yallax> what does that say? what resolutions are they?
[02:09] <Daverocks> if it helps, there's a file called casper.log in the root filesystem which says, about 20 times "mount: mounting device /dev/hdc on /cdrom failed: Invalid argument" or something like that
[02:09] <highneko> yallax: It has always said Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[02:09] <bz0b> what is the command to see how much video memory i have
[02:10] <bz0b> what is the command to see how much video memory i have
[02:10] <koko> dmesg
[02:10] <koko> :)
[02:10] <david83> ;)
[02:10] <bz0b> thx
[02:11] <dtygel> hi people: can someone help me setting up sound for recording? I cannot make the mic work... is there any "automatic" setting?
[02:11] <davidmacintosh> oi. can't uninstall ggz-gtk-games (was looking for a decent chess gui)
[02:11] <yallax> highneko: then we can add some more there..sec
[02:11] <davidmacintosh> anyone have ideas on how I'd go about tracking down the conflict?  (error code 255)
[02:11] <Dinho> ciao
[02:11] <Dinho> sono un nuovo utente
[02:11] <jrib> !it
[02:11] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:11] <Daverocks> i've tried almost every boot option, but it _always_ freezes at "mounting root file system", which is basically the second thing the install does.
[02:12] <jrib> Daverocks: can you pastebin the output you get with 'sudo apt-get install ggz-gtk-games'?
[02:12] <jrib> davidmacintosh: can you pastebin the output you get with 'sudo apt-get install ggz-gtk-games'?
[02:12] <Daverocks> jrib: wrong person xD
[02:12] <highneko> yallax: I've tryed google, asking ubotu, and adept! Can't do it yet. x_x
[02:13] <jrib> Daverocks: have you tried the alternate cd?  Also, are you burning this cd at higher than 4x?
[02:13] <BuZzY> i have installed lame (by apt-get) but is not latest version, how can i get it to latest one?
[02:13] <jrib> !latest
[02:13] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[02:13] <koko> I am fucking all day with pglflash on amd64 and can't compile it... I think, I'll better make a coffe :D
[02:13] <yallax> highneko:  Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"  just add "1280x1024" on every line
[02:14] <Daverocks> jrib: it's actually a DVD from a magazine
[02:14] <highneko> yallax: I'll try that. Thnx. ;)
[02:14] <dtygel> folks: any help for configuring audio capturing?
[02:14] <Daverocks> jrib: i don't think it's the boot media that's the problem
[02:14] <jrib> BuZzY: you have to consider if you really need the latest version.  Because in dapper, you will only have what was available when Dapper was created.  If you have a pressing need for the latest lame then you are going to have to compile it
[02:14] <jrib> Daverocks: try the alternate cd though
[02:14] <yallax> highneko: in console do: go to X11 dir and then do: gedit xorg.conf
[02:15] <dtygel> when I try to record no matter what, I get a message that says that my audio capturing isn't configured properly.
[02:15] <dtygel> How can I diagnose the problem and solve it?
[02:15] <Daverocks> jrib: hm, that means downloading :(
[02:15] <BuZzY> jrib, so i can use the older onesafely?
[02:15] <marianet> i have problems with totem coders
[02:16] <marianet> some one knows what codecs do i have toinstall to listen mp3 and .mov
[02:16] <koko> mp3 on totem?
[02:16] <dtygel> marianet: try http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[02:16] <marianet> yea?
[02:16] <jrib> BuZzY: of course, if it does everything you need it to, then there's no reason to waste time compiling and getting headaches
[02:16] <jrib> ubotu: tell marianet about mp3
[02:16] <BuZzY> hehe
[02:16] <highneko> My resolution is really good now. Thanks alot. ;)
[02:16] <marianet> what?
[02:17] <koko> marianet: http://www.google.lv/search?q=mp3+support+site%3Ahelp.ubuntu.com&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[02:17] <jrib> marianet: check your private messages from ubotu
[02:17] <Dimensions> hiya .... what should be my apache2.conf setting for user and group where my default user is known as filter ?
[02:17] <valehru> Hey guys, im running dapper..is there a way I can have multiple audio programs accessing the sound card at the same time?  currently skype/beep/mplayer don't work alongside each other
[02:18] <koko> ubotu: tell me about flash
[02:18] <koko> ubotu: tell koko about flash on amd64
[02:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash on amd64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:18] <koko> ubotu: tell koko about flash with firefox on 64bit
[02:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash with firefox on 64bit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:19] <yallax> glad i could help highneko :d
[02:19] <koko> ubotu: learn more about ubuntu in help.ubuntu.com :)
[02:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about learn more about ubuntu in help.ubuntu.com :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:20] <dtygel> how can I detect why my audio capture config is wrong?
[02:20] <davidmacintosh> jrib: sorry for the delay...  pastebin is hanging on me
[02:20] <jrib> davidmacintosh: yeah, use pastebin.ca or paste.ubuntu-nl.org, pastebin.com is always slow
[02:21] <jrib> koko: I think the page he links you to with "flash", mentions amd64
[02:21] <dtygel> when I go to "record" application, a message says my audio capturing is misconfigured. How to diagnoes?
[02:21] <dtygel> (diagnose)
[02:21] <koko> :)
[02:21] <sonium> does anybody know how to auto-identify on freenode using x-chat?
[02:22] <oxbat> hello
[02:22] <david83> hi
[02:22] <oxbat> where are you from
[02:22] <timalot> from the ether
[02:22] <Daverocks> sonium: as in, with a nickserv password?
[02:22] <wrabbit^> sonium, under xchat - network list - edit
[02:22] <dtygel> no help for my record sound problem?
[02:22] <jrib> oxbat: #ubuntu is for ubuntu support, but there is #ubuntu-offtopic if you just want to chat
[02:22] <wrabbit^> Then just put in your password
[02:22] <oxbat> ok
[02:23] <oxbat> i know
[02:23] <Daverocks> sonium: what wrabbit^ said =)
[02:23] <sonium> I have the gnome-version
[02:23] <davidmacintosh> jrib: there is nothing interesting in the install, but here is the remove output http://pastebin.ca/192973
[02:23] <sonium> there is no menu entry like this
[02:23] <jrib> davidmacintosh: oh I misread what you said as install :)
[02:24] <wickedpuppy> sonium, do you see help ?
[02:24] <oxbat> anyone who does well in BASH programing?
[02:24] <davidmacintosh> jrib: I figured
[02:24] <wrabbit^> although I am a little confused about how to list channels to join...  I've put #ubuntu, #python, #ubuntu-offtopic but it only opens #ubuntu
[02:24] <sonium> yes
[02:24] <wickedpuppy> oxbat, #bash
[02:24] <davidmacintosh> :)
[02:24] <wickedpuppy> sonium, whats beside that ?
[02:24] <wrabbit^> anybody know? - doesn't work either
[02:24] <koko> wrabbit^: /join #channel?
[02:24] <timalot> oxbat: what u wanna know about bash?
[02:24] <sonium> IRC, Edit, Network, Discussion, Go To, Help
[02:25] <Dimensions> any one here to help regarding apache ?
[02:25] <wickedpuppy> sonium, are you using xchat ?
[02:25] <sonium> yes
[02:25] <davidmacintosh> Dimensions:  what's the problem?
[02:25] <wrabbit^> koko, I know how to join a channel :) but I'd like xchat to enter all those channels automatically when I join freenode
[02:25] <sonium> wickedpuppy: the ubuntu supported version
[02:25] <wickedpuppy> sonium, whats your xchat version ?
[02:25] <oxbat> everything if it is need,
[02:25] <timalot> oxbat: man bash
[02:25] <sonium> mom.. have to ask synaptic
[02:25] <koko> wrabbit^: can't help you :) I'm using irssi
[02:25] <sonium> XChat-GNOME 0.13
[02:26] <wickedpuppy> sonium, go to help and about
[02:26] <yaman> do any one know a program i can use like frontpage but on the ubuntu ?
[02:26] <davidmacintosh> yaman:   nvu
[02:26] <sonium> XChat-GNOME 0.13 is what help->about says
[02:26] <koko> yaman: gedit :)
[02:26] <wickedpuppy> sonium, its just a front-end
[02:26] <yaman> ah thanks koko and davidmacintosh i think this what i need
[02:26] <wickedpuppy> how did you join this network ?
[02:27] <jrib> davidmacintosh: here's the relevant bug on debian about it http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=388273 (seems it is explained how to "fix" it)
[02:27] <Dimensions> davidmacintosh:  ... i have had apache 1.3 installed i removed it its folder was still therei did sudo rm -R /etc/apache and i only have apache2 there now ... but when i open a .php file ... i get Dialogue box open with .... and then if i click open it repeats the same Else displays page not found and at bottom saying apache\1.3 ... if i restart apache it fails ...
[02:27] <koko> yaman: it is a text editor:) Simple learn how to use html tags :)
[02:27] <sonium> IRC-> connect gives a list of networks, but without a configuration method
[02:27] <davidmacintosh> jrib: cheers
[02:27] <wickedpuppy> sonium, then why use it ? ask the devs pls ... if you need help with xchat pls ask here ..
[02:28] <sonium> hrm... I know how it worked in the old xchat.. just thought you could help me with the official supported one
[02:28] <yaman> koko : i need some thing more easyer i can't make a real site using text editor :P
[02:28] <BuZzY> how can i get the codec of an audi o file?
[02:28] <wrabbit^> yama, screem?
[02:28] <koko> yaman: I can, so you can either
[02:28] <koko> :)
[02:28] <wrabbit^> yaman, ^^
[02:28] <BuZzY> how can i get the codec of an audi o file?
[02:28] <timalot> buzzy: file <file>
[02:28] <oxbat> wrong
[02:28] <timalot> gives u the format atleast
[02:29] <yaman> aha i think you know linux better than me  :P so you use this things :P
[02:29] <yaman> wrabbit : thank you also
[02:29] <wrabbit^> yaman, what are you looking for?
[02:29] <wrabbit^> I missed the question hehe
[02:29] <BuZzY> timalot,  it does not say codec infos
[02:29] <Dimensions> davidmacintosh: ?
[02:29] <yaman> wrabbit :some thing like frontpage
[02:29] <davidmacintosh> Dimensions: have you tried just backing up and uninstalling everything 'apache' ?  manually if necessary...   then clean install apache2
[02:30] <koko> yaman: http://dot.kde.org/999051134/999081618/999082255/
[02:30] <elkbuntu> yama, NVU
[02:30] <yaman> wrabbit :i mean i don't want it just text editing need
[02:30] <elkbuntu> err
[02:30] <elkbuntu> yaman, see above
[02:30] <Dimensions> how do i remove apache2 davidmacintosh to reinstall it ?
[02:30] <koko> use google and you'll find anythign you want :)
[02:30] <Dimensions> with sudo apt-get remove apache2 ?
[02:30] <oxbat> anyone who can give me some help how to make help about the IRC grammer
[02:30] <wrabbit^> yaman,: yeah nvu
[02:30] <davidmacintosh> yes
[02:30] <oxbat> anyone who can give me some help how to make help about the IRC grammer
[02:30] <yaman> ah thanx every one too many answers alot of good ppl here :)
[02:31] <davidmacintosh> try opening up symantic package manager and searching for apache...
[02:31] <Tabias> is there a way I can mount my IDE hd (ntfs with files on it) (I tried the guide but didn't work don't got the permission to access it). I installed win xp first, then ubuntu (both without IDE drive (on SATA). After that I plugged IDE drive in but I can't access it in ubuntu
[02:31] <Dimensions> ummm..
[02:31] <davidmacintosh> (assuming you're running gnome)
[02:31] <wrabbit^> or sudo apt-cach search apach
[02:31] <wrabbit^> e
[02:31] <timalot> Tabias: writing ntfs from linux is dodgey
[02:31] <Tabias> don't want to write it, just read it
[02:32] <Tabias> all my music is on that disk :)
[02:32] <timalot> Tabias: mount /dev/hda1 /mnt ?
[02:32] <Paddy_EIRE> oxbat: just watch the room for a while :)
[02:32] <rudiz> hi
[02:32] <Paddy_EIRE> oxbat: normally just english
[02:33] <Tabias> tried the /mount
[02:33] <davidmacintosh> Dimensions: forgot to explicitly direct the above comments to you... did you get that?  (synaptic = symantic)
[02:33] <davidmacintosh> or the other way around
[02:33] <Tabias> I can access the hd of ubuntu (a SATA hd) (which contains ntfs partitions as well) but not the ide, seems strange
[02:34] <Terminus> Tabias: try mount -o umask=0222 /dev/hda1 /mnt/point
[02:34] <koko> Tabias: tried /dev/dha[b|c|d|e
[02:34] <koko> ?
[02:34] <koko> sorre hda
[02:34] <Dimensions> yeah davidmacintosh i got it ... thanks ... they are being removed ...
[02:34] <Terminus> Tabias: don't forget to create the /mnt/point directory first. =)
[02:34] <Tabias> when I go to administration -> disk manager I see the hd (hdb) with partition hdb5 and access point /tmp/disks-conf-hdb5
[02:35] <davidmacintosh> Dimensions: fingers crossed  :)
[02:35] <koko> Tabias: you nead to remove it from /etc/mtab
[02:35] <koko> and add to /etc/fstab
[02:35] <flake> everytime i boot my laptop i have to go to system/networking/ and reconnect the wireless eth1 connection, it says 'Activating eth1' and after a few seconds, it is connected.  How can I do that manually?
[02:35] <Tabias> sounds simple (2hours into ubuntu (even linux)
[02:35] <koko> at least I do so :) I am newbie in ubuntu :)
[02:36] <ghostshadow189> hi all i've a problem that i can listen to music from cd music but i cant listen to music from music files ?
[02:36] <Tabias> how do I do that koko ?
[02:36] <koko> sudo nano /etc/mtab
[02:36] <koko> find line with /dev/hdb5
[02:36] <Paddy_EIRE> ghostshadow189: what format are the files
[02:36] <koko> ctrl+k
[02:36] <ghostshadow189> mp3 , wma ...
[02:36] <koko> ctrl+x ->y ->enter
[02:36] <Paddy_EIRE> !restricted
[02:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:37] <timalot> ghostshadow189: have u checked the pcm volume in the volume control
[02:37] <onorin> msg nickserv IDENTIFY karm@nt0r
[02:37] <oxbat> timalot,may i chat with you private
[02:37] <Paddy_EIRE> ghostshadow189: follow the link ubotu gave on multimedia issues
[02:37] <ghostshadow189> yes sure
[02:37] <onorin> oops
[02:37] <Tabias> k done so
[02:37] <timalot> oxbat: why?
[02:38] <oxbat> because you say here we can't chat
[02:38] <koko> Tabias: next... it is ntfs partition?
[02:39] <Tabias> yes it's ntfs
[02:39] <koko> ok... you made mount point?
[02:39] <timalot> oxbat: ask me a question and if i know ill respond here.... and everyone can benefit from my wisdom :)
[02:39] <Tabias> euhm, no Idea actually (possibly by following the tutorial)
[02:40] <koko> mkdir /mnt/myntfspartition
[02:40] <koko> :)
[02:40] <valehru> how can I create a shortcut to a directory on the desktop?
[02:40] <koko> sudo in front of it
[02:40] <Tabias> done
[02:40] <koko> Tabias: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[02:41] <koko> and add line /dev/hdb5 /mnt/myntfspartition ntfs noauto 0 0
[02:41] <koko> I think it might work :)
[02:41] <onorin> valehro, right click to the directory and create a link
[02:41] <koko> maybe not :)
[02:41] <onorin> valehru, then cut and past the link to the desktop
[02:41] <koko> I forgot all options
[02:41] <Tabias> will just copy options from the other ntfs partitions?
[02:42] <dalik> I have a few things that I would like advice on, one I installed openLDAP and I was able to authenticate fine, but I found that I wasn't able to sudo anymore.  So trying to run "sudo gedit" then type in my password as normal failed and didnt launch the application.  Any ideas?
[02:42] <Dimensions> to install apache2 which one of these i should be installing ...  1 apache2-mpm-perchild OR ... apache2-mpm-prefork OR .... apache2-mpm-worker AND ... apache2-prefork-dev OR .... apache2-threaded-dev ??
[02:42] <Paddy_EIRE> is there anyway of recording a last.fm stream using amarok
[02:42] <oxbat> hey,can you speak more interesting words,at least a bit more hard!
[02:42] <koko> Tabias: that woold be best option
[02:43] <koko> onorin: open terminal. then ln -s /your/directory ~/Desktop/linkname
[02:43] <timalot> ive got apache2-mpm-prefork ...
[02:43] <oxbat> bye
[02:43] <koko> Tabias: when you do that, then try sudo mount -a
[02:43] <davidmacintosh> jrib: that fixed it... that's a very easy problem to fix in the .deb (simple mkdir on install) but rather critical in terms of "breaking" the packaging system -- how does one go about registering a bug on launchpad? (wouldn't want to be redundant of course)
[02:43] <timalot> oxbat: later
[02:44] <valehru> onorin, make link is greyed out when I right click on it....the folder is /var/www/
[02:44] <oxbat> the same
[02:44] <Tabias> do I need to reboot?
[02:44] <koko> no
[02:44] <valehru> onorin, i tried sudo chown username /var/www/
[02:44] <oxbat> tell me where are yu from,timalot,beg you!
[02:44] <jrib> davidmacintosh: bugs.ubuntu.com will take you to the right page, then just register, and add a new bug to that package.  It would be great if you could link the bug to the debian bug upstream as well
[02:44] <valehru> onorin, but its still greyed out
[02:44] <Tabias> strange, can't find the partition anywhere
[02:44] <koko> maybe you need to do sudo umount /dev/hdb5
[02:44] <timalot> oxbat: i am from New Zealand.... happy?
[02:44] <koko> and then again sudo mount -a
[02:44] <oxbat> haha yes
[02:44] <davidmacintosh> jrib: will do. thanks for the help
[02:45] <jrib> davidmacintosh: np
[02:45] <Tabias> it's says dev/hdb5 can't be found
[02:45] <oxbat> bye ,I won't forget you .timalot
[02:45] <Dimensions> davidmacintosh:  any idea ?
[02:45] <timalot> hahaha
[02:45] <koko> Tabias: /dev/hdb not dev/hdb
[02:45] <Tabias> well yeah, /dev/hdb5
[02:45] <onorin> valerhu
[02:45] <koko> soree - /dev/hdb5
[02:46] <davidmacintosh> Dimensions: sorry, I missed your comment
[02:46] <Tabias> it can't find it
[02:46] <koko> it can't be
[02:46] <Dimensions> With apache2, which one of these i should be installing ...  1 apache2-mpm-perchild OR ... apache2-mpm-prefork OR .... apache2-mpm-worker AND ... apache2-prefork-dev OR .... apache2-threaded-dev ??
[02:46] <davidmacintosh> Dimensions: just apache2
[02:46] <onorin> valehru, from console  sudo  ln -s /var/www ~/Desktop/linkname
[02:46] <koko> onorin: why sudo?
[02:47] <koko> it is his desktop
[02:47] <timalot> Dimensions: ithink the prefork ... means it uses processes to handle requests... rather that threads,,, in one process
[02:47] <koko> he can do there anything he want :)
[02:47] <onorin> koko, well I am not sure. May be  /var/www has no permission
[02:48] <timalot> Dimensions: fork is the way apache 1.3 works... the most common probably
[02:48] <onorin> koko, it may be redundant I just wanted to ensure
[02:48] <koko> hehe... ok :)
[02:48] <SeanTater_> How would I backup my computer in a way that I could restore everything about my computer later?
[02:48] <davidmacintosh> Dimensions: if you just select apache2, your base dependencies will by automatically selected.
[02:48] <Tabias> goddamned, ubuntu work with me here :@
[02:48] <jrib> !backup
[02:48] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[02:48] <SeanTater> jrib: thanks
[02:48] <dalik> I installed openLDAP and I was able to authenticate fine, but I found that I wasn't able to sudo anymore.  So trying to run "sudo gedit" then type in my password as normal failed and didnt launch the application.  Any ideas?
[02:49] <valehru> onorin, that works perfectly
[02:49] <valehru> thanks
[02:49] <koko> ok - I'll get to work, I suppose :)
[02:49] <valehru> don't know why it was greyed out on /var/www/  even though I thought I had the proper permissions for my user
[02:49] <ghostshadow189> hi all , i've tried to install w32codecs and kaffeine player , but i still cant play my .mp3
[02:50] <onorin> valehru, it is probably a permission thing but  I don't know
[02:50] <Tabias> damn he's away
[02:50] <nobody_lv> Tabias: ok...
[02:50] <Tabias> in the disks manager the drive stands as inaccessable
[02:50] <valehru> onorin, ok...well thanks for your help
[02:50] <THX-1138> ghostshadow189: ffmpeg
[02:51] <davidmacintosh> SeanTater_: rsync is incredibly powerful, but it is far removed from something like "Norton Ghost"; a drive image isn't necessarily the way to go for a linux desktop
[02:51] <nobody_lv> Tabias: that's good :)
[02:51] <ghostshadow189> install it ?
[02:51] <onorin> valehru, one last thing , you may try this as well : sudo gksudo nautilus
[02:51] <Tabias> now I have to mount it again?
[02:51] <onorin> no
[02:51] <onorin> valehru, correcting gksudo nautilus
[02:51] <nobody_lv> Tabias: try ls /mnt/myntfspartition
[02:51] <DeeTahPanLtah> is my dsn messed up or us.archive.ubuntu.com is down?
[02:51] <THX-1138> davidmacintosh: Disk images restore the system more quickly.
[02:51] <DeeTahPanLtah> could anyone check that?
[02:52] <ghostshadow189> THX-1138 : u mean that i must install it : sudo apt-get install ffmpeg ?
[02:52] <Tabias> mount: /dev/hdb5 already mounted or /media/sdb5 busy
[02:52] <Tabias> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb5 is already mounted on /media/sdb5
[02:52] <valehru> onorin, opened up nautilus as root, now what?
[02:52] <Tabias> ls: /media/hdb5: No such file or directory
[02:52] <valehru> onorin, im looking at the permissions, the owner of /var/www/ is my user, and the group is root.
[02:52] <onorin> valehru, now that greyed thing should be enabled
[02:52] <nobody_lv> Tabias: close disk mannager
[02:52] <THX-1138> ghostshadow189: ffmpeg -s the base for a lot of plugins - find what matches your player.
[02:52] <nobody_lv> and then try to mount again
[02:53] <Tabias> disk manager is closed, still same messages
[02:53] <valehru> ahh...so it is
[02:53] <DeeTahPanLtah> is my dsn messed up or us.archive.ubuntu.com is down?
[02:53] <onorin> valehru, retry making a link via nautilus it should work
[02:53] <valehru> onorin, so it is, thanks
[02:53] <onorin> np
[02:53] <nobody_lv> Tabias: maybe some other programm uses that disk?
[02:53] <davidmacintosh> THX-1138: in the majority of cases, that's not true (in my experience); depending on how you've used rsync
[02:53] <valehru> onorin, yeah it works
[02:53] <timalot> DeeTahPanLtah: i can ping it
[02:54] <nobody_lv> you can try sudo umount -f /dev/hdb5
[02:54] <DeeTahPanLtah> damnit,wtf then? ;<
[02:54] <davidmacintosh> THX-1138: it might be more straight forward; i'll give you that!  :)
[02:54] <Tabias> umount2: Invalid argument
[02:54] <Tabias> umount: /dev/hdb5: not mounted
[02:54] <Tabias> most possibly my computer just went ignored. One time saying it is mounted, the other saying it is not mounted
[02:55] <nobody_lv> Tabias: show the row you placed in fstab
[02:55] <DeeTahPanLtah> timalot: and can you telnet to 80 port?
[02:55] <Tabias> /dev/hdb5       /media/sdb5     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0   $
[02:55] <nobody_lv> naiss
[02:56] <timalot> DeeTahPanLtah: it connects to port 80..... u dont want me to speak http tho i hope
[02:56] <nobody_lv> Tabias: and now sudo mkdir /media/sdb5
[02:56] <ghostshadow189> THX-1138 : i typed like u said but :  ffmpeg : command not found
[02:56] <nobody_lv> Tabias: and then sudo mount -a
[02:56] <DeeTahPanLtah> timalot: thanks,it's some fault here then.
[02:56] <Tabias>  /media/sdb5 is already made (can find the folder)
[02:56] <timalot> thats strange us.archive.ubuntu.com maps to alpaca-ii.it.anl.gov ... a US government site.... hmmmm
[02:57] <DeeTahPanLtah> hacked?
[02:57] <DeeTahPanLtah> ;D
[02:57] <mthakur> hello
[02:57] <nobody_lv> Tabias: sudo mount -a
[02:57] <Tabias> mount: /dev/hdb5 already mounted or /media/sdb5 busy
[02:57] <wayney> I'm having problems getting 915resolution to display @ 1920X1200, can someone please help me?
[02:57] <onorin> NTFS! try ntfs3g it enables to write to your windows partition
[02:57] <Tabias> don't need to write, just read
[02:57] <timalot> DeeTahPanLtah: maybe :)
[02:57] <nobody_lv> Tabias: maybe reboot PC :)
[02:58] <Tabias> will try that ^
[02:58] <onorin> Tabias, have you searched forums
[02:58] <onorin> too late
[02:58] <nobody_lv> nja... I dindnt understand if he removed that line from mtab :D
[02:58] <mthakur> can anyone tell me how to read ntfs via linux?
[02:59] <nobody_lv> and sorre for my English :)
[02:59] <nobody_lv> mthakur: mount it :)
[02:59] <mthakur> how?
[02:59] <DeeTahPanLtah> mthakur: edit /etc/fstab as root
[02:59] <nobody_lv> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/yourntfsdevice /mount/point
[02:59] <mthakur> then can i read ntfs without restarting?
[02:59] <nobody_lv> mthakur: of course
[03:00] <nobody_lv> it's linux beauty
[03:00] <nobody_lv> :)
[03:00] <mthakur> nobody_lv: thanks every1
[03:00] <mthakur> :D
[03:00] <nobody_lv> :)
[03:00] <onorin> nobody_lv,  instead forward people to forums
[03:00] <onorin> mthakur, there are a lot of posts on this in forums
[03:00] <nobody_lv> ok ok ok - I need to work :D
[03:00] <mthakur> onorin: which one?
[03:01] <onorin> mthakur, ubuntuforums.org
[03:01] <wayney> I'm having problems getting 915resolution to display @ 1920X1200, can someone please help me? I've tried the wiki + forums to no avail :(
[03:01] <mthakur> onorin: thanks
[03:01] <Tabias> it's fixed with reboot
[03:01] <Tabias> tnx nobody_lv
[03:01] <nobody_lv> Tabias: no problems :)
[03:01] <onorin> wayney, #linux might be more helpful
[03:02] <wayney> onorin : ok
[03:04] <WooD> Hi !
[03:04] <WooD> Any of you know how to obtain and install Gaim 2.0 on Ubuntu ?
[03:04] <THX-1138>  onorin - find them the answer wherever it is. - If we are helpful they will be back.
[03:05] <Paddy_EIRE> how would I go about burning an audio cd that would play in most cd players in amarok, most of the music in my collection was converted to mp3 at some point or other
[03:05] <onorin> THX-1138, may be but on the other hand, if we could reduce the traffic in here, IRC could be a more efficient place for unsolved problems
[03:05] <webben> WooD: I suspect it's probably not worth it.
[03:06] <webben> WooD, but if I needed to do that
[03:06] <webben> WooD, i would apt-get install checkinstall
[03:06] <webben> apt-get remove gaim*
[03:06] <webben> and then pull down the source code,  untar it, make, the checkinstall
[03:07] <onorin> besides, support in forums is superior compared to IRC in depth-wise
[03:07] <webben> WooD, it's also possible there may be unofficial packages around
[03:07] <webben> onorin: reduce the traffic how?
[03:08] <webben> onorin: what's the point of this channel if we just forward people to forums
[03:08] <onorin> webben, if people first seek the answers in forums then come to IRC, the traffic would be reduced.
[03:08] <ghostshadow189> hi all , i can play .ogg file but cant play .mp3 file
[03:08] <webben> onorin: well, it's a good idea to search the forums
[03:08] <jrib> ubotu: tell ghostshadow189 about mp3
[03:08] <Ash-Fox> !mp3
[03:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:08] <webben> onorin: although sometimes searching requires navigating past a captcha which is less than user-friendly
[03:09] <onorin> webben, the point is , sometimes you couldn't find  what you need in forums. Second, online help is superior to posted forums for tricky things
[03:09] <robertj> hey all. Does anyone know if Dapper will work on a Mac Pro?
[03:09] <webben> onorin: yes ... i'm not sure we disagree then
[03:09] <webben> onorin: although just atm the search function is down
[03:09] <onorin> I am not authority here. it was just my 2 cents
[03:10] <ghostshadow189> ubotu : i read it , and then i install 32codecs , but it didnt work , i still couldnt play .mp3 files
[03:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i read it , and then i install 32codecs , but it didnt work , i still couldnt play .mp3 files - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:10] <onorin> webben, true , but that guy had never heard of the forums even.
[03:10] <Seveas> ghostshadow189, ubotu is a bot
[03:10] <Tabias> try using xmms (don't have any problem with it and no codec installed I think)
[03:11] <nobody_lv> Amarok is the best player ever
[03:11] <webben> onorin: it would be good to include a reference to the forums in the topic
[03:12] <onorin> yeah ok let me put it :)
[03:12] <Negative_Infinit>  can someone tell me how i can write fractions in openoffice writer?
[03:12] <Negative_Infinit> i mean 2/4 1/2 etc.
[03:12] <CromagDK> !spreadsheet
[03:12] <onorin> Negative_Infinit, do you need it like in Maths or as symbol
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spreadsheet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <Tabias> is there a way to get wine to work on a 64-bit ubuntu?
[03:13] <onorin> Negative_Infinit, you could use openoffice  Math
[03:13] <nobody_lv> Tabias: today I did it :)
[03:13] <nobody_lv> it is simple
[03:13] <webben> Negative_Infinit, the more common everyday fractions often are in unicode
[03:13] <Tabias> I'm listening
[03:13] <onorin> Negative_Infinit, or you could search it in unicode characters
[03:13] <mjr> Tabias, http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit
[03:14] <Negative_Infinit> yeah, but special fractions, like 256/512 etc.
[03:14] <nobody_lv> Tabias: one moment
[03:14] <onorin> Negative_Infinit, only way is Openoffice Math
[03:14] <ClayG> anyone get a hp laserjet to work with ubuntu?
[03:14] <Negative_Infinit> ok ill try that one thanks
[03:14] <lala> Buenas
[03:14] <nobody_lv> Tabias: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WineForAMD64 <- it worked fine to me
[03:14] <M_A_K> How do I prevent a user from playing the games that are installed with ubuntu while letting others play them?
[03:14] <valehru> Anyone know what version of wordpress is in the ubuntu repos?
[03:15] <nobody_lv> M_A_K: remove that user from games group
[03:15] <jrib> !info wordpress
[03:15] <ubotu> wordpress: an award winning weblog manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.2-2 (dapper), package size 490 kB, installed size 2792 kB
[03:15] <rasta_ubuntu> anyone know about the new ubuntu distro release
[03:15] <lala> Tengo una duda... Estoy aprendiendo a configurar el iptables.. habilit la entrada para el ssh... pero aveces cuando me conecto me tira que el host no responde... y aveces si se conecta... que puede ser ??
[03:15] <valehru> jrib, thanks
[03:15] <M_A_K> There are no users in that group when I open the /etc/group file.  That was my first thought.
[03:16] <jrib> rage: it's still being developed
[03:16] <nobody_lv> nja... M_A_K I am new in ubuntu...
[03:16] <chamo> hello
[03:17] <jrib> M_A_K: all of the stuff is executable by everyone, so you'll probably need to not let everyone execute it, and then setup groups
[03:17] <M_A_K> Does anybody else know how to prevent one user from playing the games while allowing others?  There are no users in the games group in /etc/group.
[03:17] <Tabias> looks neat, installing
[03:17] <M_A_K> Ok, that sounds doable.
[03:17] <lala> I've created a new user in ubuntu.. how can i do to block access to all directories but his home?
[03:18] <valehru> umm...I did sudo apt-get install wordpress, there doesnt seem to be a wordpress directory in my webserver directory.  Any suggestions?
[03:18] <fsmw> Hi all, i got a Broadcom GB NETX Ethernet card on a dell poweredge 2950, but dapper doesn't recognize it, does somebody know how to install this nic ?
[03:18] <lala> valehru $ locate wordpress
[03:19] <valehru> np, found it here /etc/wordpress
[03:19] <Tabias> nobody_lv:  normally I can now play .exe files (but I'm obviously not) tried the installation script (worked well I suppose).
[03:19] <alexanderturner> I need a developer to please talk to me at irc.turnerzworld.com
[03:19] <alexanderturner> #turnerzworld.
[03:19] <alexanderturner> please
[03:20] <onorin> lala I am no expert of this but , the only way come to my mind is to create a new group and add all permissioned users to that group, and change all persmissions of all directories as only that group could read them
[03:20] <florizs1984> @lala I don't really know if its possible because you need to excecute commands in /usr/bin
[03:20] <fsmw> Hi all, i got a Broadcom GB NETX Ethernet card on a dell poweredge 2950, but dapper doesn't recognize it, does somebody know how to install this nic ?
[03:20] <alexanderturner> please
[03:20] <njan> alexanderturner, if you have a technical question, you'll have far more luck joining the right technical channel (developer? for which language/platform?) and just posing the problem.
[03:20] <alexanderturner> irc.turnerzworld.com
[03:20] <valehru> Anyone know when the forums will be back online?
[03:20] <alexanderturner> njan, sorry what was that?
[03:21] <njan> alexanderturner, nobody's going to join your IRC server on a whim because you've asked for "a developer" to help you with an unnamed technical issue.
[03:21] <alexanderturner> I need some help with the ubuntu installer
[03:21] <njan> alexanderturner, ok, so tell us what the problem is. If someone can help, they will.
[03:21] <lala> florizs1984 onorin but for eg. I dont want this user to see my /etc/init.d config... or my /root ..
[03:21] <alexanderturner> ok, I would like to modify ubuntu to make it kid friendly
[03:22] <alexanderturner> how can i make an installer that would boot from cd
[03:22] <florizs1984> @lala i get it there is a technique called jailing but i believe it's for ftp only
[03:22] <alexanderturner> ?
[03:22] <fsmw>  i got a Broadcom GB NETX Ethernet card on a dell poweredge 2950, but dapper doesn't recognize it, does somebody know how to install this nic ?
[03:22] <onorin> lala, remove the permission for group
[03:23] <onorin> and others
[03:23] <jrib> ubotu: tell alexanderturner about customlivecd
[03:23] <lala> onorin in all the / directory ?
[03:23] <jrib> alexanderturner: are you aware of edubuntu as well?
[03:23] <alexanderturner> ok
[03:23] <alexanderturner> yes
[03:23] <onorin> lala, which directories do you want to restrict ?
[03:23] <alexanderturner> im am looking to make something else
[03:23] <jrib> k
[03:23] <alexanderturner> please call me alex
[03:23] <Nick_> Hi all. Trying to setup NAT on my box but it's not natting the IP. It's as tho it's bridged.
[03:24] <lala> onorin dont really know... i dont want this user to have access to important files or configs... just for security
[03:24] <Negative_Infinit> in OOo writer, im thinking on how to make my own custom numbering, with numbers beginning with ___ before showing the number. ex. ____ 1. Text here
[03:24] <jtholmes> !livecd
[03:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[03:24] <florizs1984> @lala I have a post on linuxquestions.org for you concerning the problem
[03:24] <Negative_Infinit> how do i do that?
[03:24] <florizs1984> @lala http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=443853
[03:24] <lala> florizs1984 thanks ! =)
[03:24] <alexanderturner> hmm
[03:24] <kmaynard> Negative_Infinit, have you checked google or the OOo site?
[03:24] <M_A_K> Are the games located in a separate directory somewhere or are they mixed in with everything else?
[03:24] <alexanderturner> just wondering, is it wrong to advertise on IRC
[03:24] <alexanderturner> kinda proud of my website
[03:24] <xipietotec> anyone know of a user friendly on disk encryption program which is dual linux/windows compatible?
[03:24] <onorin> lala, i think the default is secure enough, you have to specify what extra measures you require
[03:25] <alexanderturner> PGP is kewl
[03:25] <kmaynard> alexanderturner, if you have to ask, it prolly is
[03:25] <jtholmes> alexanderturner: it is here
[03:25] <Negative_Infinit> not yet
[03:25] <alexanderturner> jtholmes: sorry i didnt quite understand that?
[03:25] <Zaggynl> hi, can vfat be read under windows xp?
[03:25] <Negative_Infinit> w8
[03:25] <kmaynard> alexanderturner, to be clear, do not advertise
[03:26] <alexanderturner> ok
[03:26] <jtholmes> alexanderturner: you dont advertise here
[03:26] <kmaynard> clear?
[03:26] <alexanderturner> my appologies
[03:26] <florizs1984> damn, the ubuntuforums and digg.com down :S starts panicking
[03:26] <alexanderturner> yes
[03:26] <alexanderturner> very clear
[03:26] <kmaynard> do you have any ubuntu questions?
[03:26] <alexanderturner> me?
[03:26] <kmaynard> right this second there are 892 people here ready to help to the best of our ability
[03:27] <jtholmes> alexanderturner: there is no telling how much fire would rain down on you if you advertised here
[03:27] <kmaynard> lol flames
[03:27] <Nick_> Trying to setup NAT on my box but it's not natting the IP. It's forwarding the IP as tho it's bridged.
[03:27] <elkbuntu> non-ubuntu chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic please people
[03:27] <njan> alexanderturner, you'll find most people consider it to be spam.
[03:27] <alexanderturner> mainly about the installer, which njam helped me with, cheers. ill probably just hang around, wait for someone to ask a network question...ive been working for cisco for 8 odd years
[03:28] <mthakur> how do you setup a wireless network?
[03:28] <alexanderturner> using what>
[03:28] <njan> alexanderturner, you might find ##security and/or ##networking better places to hang around.
[03:28] <jtholmes> !wireless
[03:28] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:28] <alexanderturner> Buffallo makes good equipment
[03:28] <njan> alexanderturner, freenode has a plethora of different channels :)
[03:28] <alexanderturner> so does linksys
[03:28] <alexanderturner> really easy to set up
[03:28] <alexanderturner> its pretty cool.
[03:28] <kmaynard> i think we're back on topic everyone :)
[03:28] <jtholmes> mthakur: !wireless > mthakur
[03:28] <alexanderturner> yes.
[03:29] <mthakur> thanks
[03:29] <lala> Other question.. i dont know why when some people do /dns irc.chatelsitio2.com.ar they see the 140.121.196.79 ip.. and other see the real one..201.212.47.129 .. what could it be?
[03:30] <alexanderturner> lala, are you trying to set up a dns server?
[03:30] <alexanderturner> or website?
[03:30] <alexanderturner> dont worry
[03:31] <Ekinoks> j'aurais une petite question, sous linux, quel processeurs fonction le mieux ? AMD ou Intel ?
[03:32] <Nick_> I guess no one around know's the answer to my question :(
[03:32] <Ekinoks> oups, is not a french chat, sorry :^/
[03:32] <lazzareth> Does anybody perhaps have a copy of the default gentoo samba config file ? (/etc/samba/smb.cong) i was looking throught it on my linux webserver at work today, It has a vast array of setup options I wouldnt mind employing on my pc, ?
[03:32] <njan> lala, it may be that that's configured for 'round robin' DNS
[03:32] <njan> lala, if that record has more than one corresponding IP address, the DNS server will return them in a different order each time you query it, so that clients are distributed across more than one IRC server on a larger network.
[03:33] <alexanderturner> What is the best linux server os?
[03:33] <DeeTahPanLtah> a linux from scratch ;p
[03:33] <njan> lala, http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/lookup.ch?name=irc.freenode.net&type=A <= take a look at irc.freenode.net, for instance
[03:33] <alexanderturner> haha
[03:33] <njan> alexanderturner, for a server doing what?
[03:34] <alexanderturner> Well, im running 5 different servers mail and web that are Red Hat enterprise AS...is that right
[03:34] <alexanderturner> they are in japan, 1 gig internet for 60 bucks a month
[03:34] <kmaynard> alexanderturner, ubuntu running postfix with a mysql backend
[03:35] <kmaynard> virtual mail ftw
[03:35] <alexanderturner> ok..
[03:35] <jorik> ftw?
[03:35] <jorik> whats that mean ?
[03:35] <lazzareth> For the Win
[03:36] <jorik> ah ok
[03:36] <lazzareth> ive got your back jorik :P
[03:36] <jorik> ;)
[03:38] <wrabbit^> anybody know of a good bandwidtch monitor and limiter for kde?
[03:39] <wrabbit^> bandwidth*
[03:39] <alexanderturner> No idea.
[03:40] <wrabbit^> fair enough :)
[03:40] <onorin> wrabbit^, http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Bandwidth-Limiting-HOWTO.html
[03:41] <lazzareth> How can i check the speed ubuntu things _both_ my gigabit cards are? as far as i can tell, both wont transfer faster than 10mb/s
[03:41] <wrabbit^> onorin, ah, cool.  Thank you
[03:41] <lazzareth> 'thinks
[03:41] <onorin> np I just write my browsers address bar, bandwith limit linux
[03:42] <kraut> wenn my noteboook wakes up from hibernate i have no sound or better said it's extremly silent. i checked out also the mixer levels without any success. any ideas?
[03:42] <onorin> wrabbit^, it is a very old doc though
[03:42] <wrabbit^> onorin, I'll take that into account
[03:42] <florizs1984> @kraut what works with me is opening a terminal and typing killall esd
[03:43] <kraut> florizs1984: i have no sound server like that
[03:44] <florizs1984> @kraut does asamixer work (type the command alsamixer)
[03:44] <kraut> florizs1984: all fine like in aumix
[03:45] <florizs1984> @kraut and your mediaplayer doesn't give any errors?
[03:45] <kraut> no, because i get any sound but extremly silent
[03:45] <kraut> is there any init script where i could reload the snd-modules?
[03:45] <florizs1984> @kraut sorry I missunderstood your first message
[03:46] <florizs1984> and if you restart your gnome-session?
[03:46] <florizs1984> does it do anything?
[03:46] <ghostshadow189> hi all , i installed a .deb file , so now how can i know where it is installed ?
[03:47] <florizs1984> @ghostshadow mostyl it says so in gdebi the deb installer
[03:47] <krazykit> ghostshadow189: most likely /usr/bin, unless it was packaged incorrectly
[03:47] <florizs1984> @ghostshadow but you can select it in synaptic and click properties
[03:47] <kraut> florizs1984: i am using kde, but no
[03:47] <kraut> i need to reboot at the moment
[03:48] <lazzareth> Can I bind a read-only folder as a different user (e.g. root @ /var/www ) into my homefolder ? with read-write access ?
[03:49] <Gasten> Quick question: Why is it taking so long before someone adds python 2.5 to the reps?
[03:49] <Mikkas> hey --- my grub is gone... how do i reinstall it off the live cd?
[03:49] <Mikkas> quickiest noobist way ;)
[03:49] <valehru> wordpress + apache 2 + php 4.  this thing is full of problems for me....: "Your PHP installation appears to be missing the MySQL which is required for WordPress." any suggestions?
[03:49] <florizs1984> @Mikkas I had a how-to for it just a sec
[03:49] <Gasten> Mikkas: sudo apt-cd install grub (I think) (with the cd in)
[03:49] <Gasten> no!
[03:50] <Mikkas> no?
[03:50] <Gasten> Mikkas: sudo apt-cdrom install grub (I think) (with the cd in)
[03:50] <valehru> by the way, the wordpress deb in the ubuntu repo is screwy, not working at all.
[03:50] <florizs1984> @gasten you need to reset the systemroot
[03:50] <Mikkas> um so what boot into the live desktop? then pull that up on the terminal? or will that only "install it to ram"
[03:50] <Gasten> florizs1984: What do you mean?
[03:50] <highneko> For flash movies on youtube I don't hear sound, and the flash uses 100% cpu! How fix?
[03:51] <Gasten> !easyubuntu > highneko
[03:51] <florizs1984> @gasten if you type the command on the live cd it installs grub to the live-cd
[03:51] <florizs1984> live cd file-system i mean
[03:51] <Gasten> ah
[03:52] <florizs1984> @Gasten you need to mound your HD make it your root and install grub
[03:52] <florizs1984> I had a tutorial somewhere
[03:52] <Mikkas> ^^
[03:52] <florizs1984> on hardcopy, since the forums are down
[03:52] <highneko> Gasten: Why use easyubuntu?
[03:52] <Mikkas> thanks for the help so far at least.
[03:52] <ucordes> how can i find out which file my ubuntu creates vor a specific device in the dev folder?
[03:52] <Gasten> highneko: I think that'll solve the problem?
[03:53] <Gasten> ucordes: what device?
[03:53] <ucordes> a SD flash card inserted in my cardreader
[03:53] <ucordes> it doesn't mount anymore
[03:54] <ucordes> it first did. then i tried to get rw rights and now it doesn't mount
[03:54] <Gasten> hav you tried to mount it in nautilus?
[03:54] <ucordes> how?
[03:55] <Gasten> ucordes: computer --> click the icon
[03:55] <Gasten> (double click)
[03:56] <ucordes> Gasten: the point is there is no icon for my sd card any longer
[03:57] <Gasten> ah...
[03:57] <Gasten> well, you could go and look in /dev/, but I don't think you'll find anything.
[03:58] <M_A_K> What do I need to install for samba to be used on ununtu client to connec to Windows server.
[03:58] <frolle> I just tried to install the drivers to my Nvidia 6600 GT, but now i get a x server error, i just changed nv to nvidia in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:58] <craigbass1976> I've installed KDE, but coming from RH based systems, I can't find the file that allows me to change the default to this rather than gnome
[03:58] <craigbass1976> Where is the ubuntu version of /etc/sysconfig/desktop ?
[03:59] <craigbass1976> Oh, split huh?  I'll ask again. Where is the ubuntu version of /etc/sysconfig/desktop ?
[03:59] <nobody_lv> kewl
[03:59] <nobody_lv> :)
[04:00] <Screechingcat> what the hell is hapenning ?
[04:00] <craigbass1976> Criminy
[04:00] <Gasten> Screechingcat: Netsplit.
[04:00] <kill4killin> yup yup :D
[04:00] <craigbass1976> Screechingcat, some sort of a server split.  Happens every so often
[04:00] <XiXaQ> t888, I think lilo still lives, but grub is more popular.
[04:00] <aftertaf> rejoin
[04:00] <abdelmonem> hello
[04:00] <utab> hi guys I have an easy question for you
[04:00] <Screechingcat> craigbass1976, ok
[04:01] <M_A_K> Anybody know what to install for samba on client?
[04:01] <kmaynard> define easy
[04:01] <florizs1984> wtf is happening in the chat-channel?
[04:01] <Mastastealth> hey guys, im trying to get m laptop to output to S-video. I enabled twinview in the Nvidia settings program, and the second monitor shows the CURSOR but its black...how com?
[04:01] <kill4killin> M_A_K: im pretty sure nothing
[04:01] <Screechingcat> what do i do if the live cd dosent detect my hard drive ?
[04:01] <M_A_K> do you know what command to mount a samba share?
[04:01] <abdelmonem> my ubuntu does not mount my usb stick (/dev/sdb1) automaticly, how can i let it do it ?
[04:01] <XiXaQ> Screechingcat, are you sure it doesn't find the disk?
[04:01] <kmaynard> Screechingcat, what type of hd?
[04:01] <craigbass1976> M_A_K, I don't understand the quesiton.  You want to mount up a windows share on your linux box?
[04:01] <kill4killin> M_A_K: o your trying to access it from another linux client?
[04:02] <Screechingcat> XiXaQ, yes. i tried with an edgy beta and a dapper
[04:02] <n1kki> Hi, I just have a quick question about Ubuntu as I've never used it before, I Wanted to download a live CD however theres only PC (Intel x86) desktop CD, is that also a fully functional live CD like knoppix?
[04:02] <kmaynard> sda, scsi, ide?
[04:02] <M_A_K> Mount my foler from windows machine on my ubuntu laptop
[04:02] <Screechingcat> kmaynard, Samsung SATA
[04:02] <Archville> Hi.
[04:02] <utab> easytiger: I run an executable under root directory /usr/local/opt/msc/bin/nastran file.bdf and get bash: ./nastran: /bin/ksh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[04:02] <aftertaf> install smbfs package
[04:02] <craigbass1976> M_A_K, mount -t smbfs //ip.add.ress/share/name /mountpoint
[04:02] <abdelmonem> my ubuntu does not mount my usb stick (/dev/sdb1) automaticly, how can i let it do it ?
[04:02] <aftertaf> M_A_K: install smbfs package
[04:02] <Mastastealth> yes n1kki
[04:02] <utab> I run an executable under root directory /usr/local/opt/msc/bin/nastran file.bdf and get bash: ./nastran: /bin/ksh: bad interpreter:
[04:02] <utab>           No such file or directory
[04:02] <XiXaQ> Screechingcat, can you mount it manually?
[04:03] <craigbass1976> M_A_K, Always worked for me, but maybe not.  I hear there's some cifs replacing samba
[04:03] <M_A_K> K
[04:03] <kmaynard> utab, check the first line of the script...it should read #/bin/sh
[04:03] <Screechingcat> like how ? right now. im running on windows.
[04:03] <n1kki> Thank you mastastealth
[04:03] <t888> who can tell "t888"?
[04:03] <utab> it is an executable not a script
[04:03] <Screechingcat> XiXaQ, the live cd works perfectly. but when it gets to the partition stage, it says no devices detected
[04:03] <kmaynard> thats all i got then
[04:04] <utab> kmaynard it is a software executable
[04:04] <n1kki> mastastealth , is it fully functional tho, I'm going to take the CD to uni, lecturer said to bring a live CD and I wanted to take ubuntu, lecturer said NO installation so has to do most stuff i think
[04:04] <craigbass1976> How do you folks switch from GNOME to KDE in Ubuntu?
[04:04] <XiXaQ> Screechingcat, you've been asked what kind of disk it is.
[04:04] <t888> i need to test gaim. who can say "t888"?
[04:04] <utab> kmaynard commercial software executable
[04:04] <craigbass1976> t888
[04:04] <Screechingcat> XiXaQ, SATA
[04:04] <Mastastealth> yea n1kki, it works just like an installed Ubuntu, alebit quite slow
[04:04] <t888> craigbass1976 - thanks
[04:05] <t888> gaim sucks in that it doesn`t highlite texts for me
[04:05] <craigbass1976> t888, now answer my question.  Do you knwo how to switch frmo gnome to kde?  Ubuntu forums are down
[04:05] <Screechingcat> XiXaQ, i should prolly mention that ive installed and reinstalled ubuntu on this machine many times before and i never got this problem
[04:05] <XiXaQ> Screechingcat, perhaps you need a special driver for it. I don't know, sorry. Which version btw?
[04:05] <n1kki> ah right, as long as your sure :)
[04:05] <craigbass1976> t888 get xchat
[04:05] <n1kki> Thanks a lot for your help, I appreciate it
[04:05] <n1kki> i'll start downloading now
[04:05] <Mastastealth> np
[04:05] <Screechingcat> XiXaQ, how come i dint need a driver before ?
[04:06] <t888> craigbass1976 - don`t know. i`m 1st time on ubuntu
[04:06] <XiXaQ> Screechingcat, I didn't know that when I sent the previous message...
[04:06] <Screechingcat> XiXaQ, no prob. so is there any way to fix this ?
[04:07] <XiXaQ> Screechingcat, I don't know, because I don't know what the problem is. And which version are you trying to install?
[04:07] <Screechingcat> XiXaQ, Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake LTS - the live cd shipit sent me
[04:07] <valehru> craigbass1976, the forums are back up
[04:07] <Screechingcat> XiXaQ, BTW, and Edgy Beta Live CD also dosent detect my HD
[04:08] <XiXaQ> Screechingcat, strange.. Does Windows?
[04:08] <craigbass1976> t888, I think I jsut found the answer on another site.  Try xchat though; I've been usgin it for years and it's cool.  Text has different colors depending on wht people do (enter, leave) and the taskbar icon blinks when someone talks directly to you
[04:08] <Screechingcat> XiXaQ, windows is working fine
[04:09] <New2Linux> Hi
[04:09] <Ciaus> greetings all
[04:09] <Screechingcat> XiXaQ, im running windows right now (and using XChat for this)
[04:10] <Screechingcat> XiXaQ, so is there no solution ? i really dont wanna use windows much longer ?
[04:10] <rixth> Linux king 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Sep 26 16:53:47 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:10] <s-toned> Since my upgrade from breezy to dapper I've got problems with X: mga (and mga from Matrox too) won't work anymore, only vesa. Any hints?
[04:10] <morzel> hi
[04:10] <Guest5564> Can one please help me installing kubuntu on my computer instead of using the live cd ?
[04:11] <Screechingcat> Guest5564, boot from the live cd and click the install icon on the desktop. hopefully it will detect your hard drive unlike mine
[04:11] <Warbo> Yo, does anyone in here have Gish?
[04:11] <florizs1984> sounds like an std to me
[04:11] <Warbo> It's a game
[04:12] <Warbo> It worked on and off in Breezy, but getting it running in Dapper is a pain :(
 , Thanks for reply .. i'll try now
[04:12] <florizs1984> do you have xgl or something? it messes up a lot of games
[04:12] <Warbo> And since I have only paid for 2 things on my PC then I want it to work
[04:12] <Screechingcat> Guest5564, no prob
[04:12] <Warbo> florizs1984: No. I think it is something to do with SDL
[04:13] <malice> Does anyone in here know how to get skypecast to work under firefox?
[04:13] <Warbo> When I run it the resolution changes, but the game doesn't appear, just my desktop zoomed in and the pointer is frozen (so I need to zap X)
[04:14] <craigbass1976> Ahhh, KDE.  I have my laptop screen set really dim and I didn't see the white "options" where I could click
[04:14] <florizs1984> @warbo you can change that last thing by running the screen resolution from your system menu
[04:14] <Warbo> florizs1984: Nope, because X crashes, the pointer freezes, etc. :(
[04:14] <florizs1984> okay
[04:15] <Screechingcat> shit. guess that means im stuck with windows then. OH GOD !!! why ME ???
[04:15] <Warbo> I know it uses SDL, OpenGL and OpenAL, and out of those I think SDL is the problem
[04:15] <kishore> can i view the contents of linux from windows..
[04:15] <Tomcat_> kishore: Yes.
[04:15] <Warbo> !fsdriver
[04:15] <kishore> i mean read or write the data
[04:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsdriver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:15] <kishore> Tomcat_, how
[04:15] <Archville> kishore: there are specific drivers
[04:15] <Warbo> dammit. kishore Yes there is an ext2/3 driver for Windows
[04:15] <craigbass1976> Screechingcat, that totally sucks, I'm sorry you have to use windows
[04:15] <Tomcat_> kishore: There are apps and drivers... see Google.
[04:15] <Archville> so you can ext* filesystems
[04:16] <kishore> wot should i ask google
[04:16] <poningru> kishore: depends what file system did you use for your lin install?
[04:16] <craigbass1976> kishore, only if the partition in question is fat
[04:16] <Screechingcat> kishore, try e2fs driver
[04:16] <Archville> Try this: http://fs-driver.org/
[04:16] <kishore> mine is ntfs..
[04:16] <kishore> and ext3
[04:17] <craigbass1976> kishore, When I was still using windows, I set up a fat partition where I put things I wanted to access from both os's
[04:17] <Archville> Warbo: try installing "libsdl1.2debian-all"
[04:17] <Archville> I dunno if it will really help, but won't hurt anyway
[04:17] <Warbo> Anyone know what SDL libraries Breezy uses/d? I think the problem Gish is having is that is is looking for, for example, libXXX.so.A when the installed version is libXXX.so.B
[04:19] <max_> elo
[04:19] <Warbo> hi
[04:19] <craigbass1976> How come in Ubuntu, neither GNOME or KDE gives me a terminal option when right clicking on the desktop?
[04:19] <Warbo> craigbass1976: install "nautilus-open-terminal" package from Universe
[04:19] <wickedpuppy> craigbass1976, cause its not fedora :P
[04:19] <Archville> Mmm, that would be an usefull option.
[04:19] <Warbo> craigbass1976: That will work only for GNOME though
[04:19] <craigbass1976> wickedpuppy, hey....
[04:19] <Archville> Warbo: that's a nautilus script ?
[04:20] <Warbo> !info nautilus-open-terminal
[04:20] <ubotu> nautilus-open-terminal: open terminal in any folder from Nautilus. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 18 kB, installed size 480 kB
[04:20] <Archville> :)
[04:20] <Warbo> I don't know if it is a script or not, since scripts usually appear in a sub-menu, but this appears in the main right-click menu
[04:21] <Warbo> it is useful for doing CLI operations in really long paths that are already open in Nautilus
[04:21] <Archville> Nice, i'm installing it too.
[04:21] <Warbo> You may need to killall nautilus after
[04:21] <Archville> Yes, that's the point.
[04:21] <dalfz> how do i make ubuntu run xearth?
[04:21] <Archville> Works after "killall nautilus".
[04:21] <grenegar> ubotu
[04:22] <Archville> Nice it is also translated to spanish.
[04:22] <rebel> hi everybody ;)
[04:22] <Warbo> rebel: hi
[04:22] <Archville> I like gnome.
[04:22] <Archville> Hi, rebel.
[04:23] <Warbo> I use E16 in GNOME
[04:23] <Warbo> "E-GNOME"
[04:23] <rebel> :)
[04:23] <Archville> Ah, i use beryl/emerald.
[04:23] <rebel> can I ask a question for ati expert ?
[04:23] <efuzzyone> if i get xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed, then what can I do to fix it?
[04:23] <Archville> Dunno if i can still use e16 thingie with it activated.
[04:23] <dalfz> what is the "root picture"?
[04:24] <Archville> Nevertheless i like the way gnome works with windows.
[04:24] <wickedpuppy> !ask
[04:24] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:24] <I3lind5pot>  hi people
 everytime i run pon dsl-provider i get the message that that it is connected
[04:24] <I3lind5pot> * mutleyshome has quit ("Ex-Chat")
 but when i try using firefox it doesnt work
 i write plog to see what the problem is
 and i get the message "Timeout waiting for PADS packets Unable to complete PPPoE Discovery"
 what can i do ?
[04:24] <Warbo> Yeah, I want to try that out. I tried Compiz on my Nvidia card, but now I am using an ATI with the DRI driver. The alpha/transparency effects are too slow to be usable, but I am buying a laptop soon (definetly nvidia this time)
[04:24] <wickedpuppy> ...
[04:24] <rebel> I've just experienced a bad bug with fglrx and ubuntu Dapper
[04:24] <wickedpuppy> pls do not spam I3lind5pot
[04:24] <krazykit> efuzzyone: reinstall it or run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:24] <rebel> ubotu : yep, in fact I was thinking that it was just dumb to ask such a question lol
[04:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yep, in fact I was thinking that it was just dumb to ask such a question lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:24] <I3lind5pot> i dont , i have just posted my question that i have sent in Xubuntu channel here because no one answered it to me
[04:24] <efuzzyone> yeah when i try to run dkg I get that error
[04:25] <Warbo> Archville: Since xcompmgr can give transparency and shadow effects to any WM, I think Compiz/Beryl type effects should have a similar tool, so any WM can use them
[04:25] <Archville> Maybe it could be implemented (transparency and opacity at least) in xserver-xorg itself.
[04:25] <Warbo> Apparently Novell found it much more straightforward to build it into a new WM though
[04:25] <rebel> when I try to switch user in System, Logout the computer crashes
[04:25] <krazykit> Warbo: except the WMs are not written to do the compiz-style effects, and you'd be fundamentally changing it
[04:26] <rebel> is there a workaround to avoid this ?
[04:26] <I3lind5pot> no one can answer me ?
[04:26] <efuzzyone> how to reintall xserver-xorg?
[04:26] <Warbo> rebel: Are you in Xorg, XGL or AiGLX (Xorg-air)?
[04:26] <DethKlok> Any one know what this means? Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_pconnect() in /usr/share/php/adodb/drivers/adodb-mysql.inc.php on line 372
[04:26] <krazykit> efuzzyone: open synaptic, find the package, rightclick, reinstlal.
[04:26] <Archville> By the way, Warbo  did the libsdl1.2debian-all help to install Gish ?
[04:27] <Archville> Maybe i'll install the game later. (on edgy though) :P
[04:27] <Warbo> efuzzyone: "sudo dpkg --force-depends -P xserver-xorg-core && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core"
[04:27] <Warbo> Archville: Haven't tried yet (too many desktops, it's getting hard to find space for a new terminal)
[04:27] <Archville> :)
[04:28] <rebel> Warbo, I'm under xorg with fglrx
[04:28] <rebel> and I also tried with XGL
[04:28] <rebel> it's the same
[04:28] <efuzzyone> Warbo: thanks
[04:28] <Warbo> rebel: OK, just that with AiGLX I have found the switch user function to be really bad
[04:28] <rebel> but if I try radeon drivers or ati drivers, I've got no more problems (but no beryl either ;))
[04:29] <krazykit> ati-drivers (fglrx) are still mostly junk, unfortunately
[04:29] <I3lind5pot> i get the message Timeout waiting for PADS packets to load when i use plog to chek whats wrong with my connection
[04:29] <I3lind5pot> what can i do ?
[04:29] <Warbo> AiGLX asks whether the new X session should be X or AIGLX...... the problem is that it asks this AFTER the screen gets locked, so it has to be unlocked to make a choice, but then doesn't even load anyway :(
[04:30] <rebel> in fact
[04:30] <rebel> I tried also something else
[04:30] <rebel> if I open a new terminal (ALT+F1 for exemple)
[04:31] <efuzzyone> Warbo: OK, I reinstalled xserver-xorg but still get the same error
[04:31] <rebel> and I make sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop...that works, but I loose the virtual console display
[04:31] <Warbo> efuzzyone: What error?
[04:31] <I3lind5pot> no one even bothers to help ?
[04:31] <rebel> I can launch gdm again with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start, but without seeing anything...
[04:31] <efuzzyone> dpkg-reconfigure says xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed
[04:32] <valehru> whats the default port for vncserver?
[04:32] <krazykit> 5900
[04:32] <dalfz> I3lind5pot, did you try google? http://www.google.no/search?hl=no&q=+Timeout+waiting+for+PADS+packets+ppp+ubuntu&btnG=S%C3%B8k&meta=
[04:32] <Warbo> I3lind5pot: I would help if I had any idea how to. Usually it is better to get no response because nobody knows than getting 889 messages saying "I don't know"
[04:33] <WooD> Hi ! the libgnutls11 seems to have problem . .how to rollback to its original libgnutls11 ?
[04:33] <Warbo> efuzzyone: OK, retry that command again, but don't put "-core" in each thing
[04:34] <WooD> how to reinstall the libgnutls11 please ?
[04:34] <valehru> krazykit, is there a way I can check what port it is running on?  can't seem to connect to 5900 from a seperate machine, that port is open on the firewall
[04:34] <Warbo> efuzzyone: xserver-xorg is just an empty package which can reconfigure X, and depends on the packages which contain Xorg (like Xorg-core). A common problem is people trying to fix X by reinstalling xserver-xorg, not realising that it is completely empty, so I assumed that was your problem :0
[04:34] <efuzzyone> Warbo: thanks a ton, finally it works now
[04:35] <krazykit> valehru: likely either a command line switch or a config in /etc.  the man page should tell you more
[04:35] <rebel> so there is no well-known workaround for the switch user with ati bug ?
[04:35] <rebel> :(
[04:35] <Warbo> hmm, I have to go now. Back later
[04:35] <Zv_oDD> Can sombody check out this link and tell me if a can use it as a mirror for apt get? ftp://ftp.iinet.com.au/linux/ubuntu/pool
[04:35] <kmaynard> rebel, get nvidia
[04:35] <rebel> lol
[04:35] <krazykit> rebel: he's serious, too
[04:35] <rebel> too easy...in a laptop you can change anything...
[04:36] <kmaynard> ahh, laptop...nvm
[04:36] <rebel> no it's definitely impossible...
[04:36] <rebel> yep :(
[04:36] <krazykit> rebel: then you're stuck biding your time for good drivers
[04:36] <dmb-aWay> hey
[04:36] <dmb-aWay> i have a problem with bind9 working ubuntu
[04:36] <Zv_oDD> ftp://ftp.iinet.com.au/linux/ubuntu/pool  :'/
[04:36] <LazyAngel> when will edgy be out? 27 october? or is it delayed?
[04:36] <kmaynard> lets hope amd can make some progress in the ati department
[04:37] <dmb-aWay> i just want to use it as a caching server
[04:37] <kmaynard> !edgy
[04:37] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[04:37] <rebel> yes, I hope so kmaynard
[04:37] <dmb-aWay> i install it it using apt
[04:37] <kmaynard> !schedule
[04:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[04:37] <dmb-aWay> and then when i do nslookup
[04:37] <efuzzyone> !schedule
[04:37] <dmb-aWay> and server localhost
[04:37] <dmb-aWay> and then type server name i get no response
[04:37] <rebel> LazyAngel, yes, it's to be released on 27
[04:38] <Zv_oDD> >>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
[04:38] <hellgrazer> Does anyone know of a server that allows a free shell account so I can check network connectivity via telnet from an outside network?
[04:38] <sproingie> my guess is amd's not going to touch anything in the driver department
[04:39] <Zv_oDD> freeshell.org
[04:39] <rebel> is there somebody here with Edgy and an ati card ?
[04:39] <sproingie> ati has the same deal as nvidia, they don't own their own IP
[04:39] <krazykit> rebel: go ask #ubuntu+1
[04:39] <rebel> because I read that this bug may disappear with Edgy...and xorg 7.1
[04:39] <rebel> oki ;)
[04:39] <rebel> thx
[04:40] <hellgrazer> Yeah.. I tried freeshell.org .. they want $36 to use telnet.. I only need it for today.
[04:40] <Solveneq> Hrm, im trying to install broadcom wifi drivers on my lappy, got some error "couldnt copy file at line x".. and now cant install/reinstall them (ref: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AcerAspire5003WLCiWifi?highlight=%28Wifi%29 )
[04:40] <rebel> but I really wonder why they don't do anything for this bug and why they don't even communicate about it, as it seems to be a long-time bug !
[04:41] <krazykit> rebel: you mean ati?  because they don't care about linux.
[04:41] <kmaynard> hellgrazer, telnet can be a security problem...what about ssh?
[04:41] <Zv_oDD> i have never got 3d Acceleration working on linux
[04:41] <mthakur> how to install ndiswrapper?
[04:42] <Zv_oDD> and i have tried like 10 diffrent distros
[04:42] <kmaynard> !wireless
[04:42] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:42] <Solveneq> i have ndiswrapper on
[04:42] <krazykit> Zv_oDD: then you're doing something wrong.  it's not terribly difficult.  check !ati or !nvidia
[04:42] <Solveneq> when i did the -i command it said couldnt copy at some line, if i try -e it says its not installed, if i try -i again it says already installed
[04:42] <kmaynard> !ndiswrapper
[04:42] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:43] <Zv_oDD> I dont care ne more, Linux isnt for games ne way
[04:43] <kmaynard> Zv_oDD, cedega
[04:43] <Zv_oDD> LIES!
[04:43] <krazykit> Zv_oDD: no, but you can have pretty screensavers and eye candy with hardware glx
[04:43] <kmaynard> linux gets better for gaming every day
[04:43] <kmaynard> !cedega
[04:43] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[04:43] <Zv_oDD> who wants yto check this link for me?
[04:43] <Zv_oDD> ftp://ftp.iinet.com.au/linux/ubuntu/pool
[04:43] <mthakur> how do you install ndiswrapper??? help
[04:44] <kmaynard> mthakur, looky here
[04:44] <hellgrazer> kmaynard, there is probably another way to check, but all I want to do is telnet to my servers smtp server and make sure it's talking.
[04:44] <kmaynard> !ndiswrapper
[04:44] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:44] <kmaynard> hellgrazer, if thats all youre doing, youre more likely to finnd ssh than telnet
[04:45] <mthakur> kmaynard, how?
[04:46] <rebel> Zv_oDD, I don't wan't to play with Linux anyway
[04:47] <Zv_oDD> huh?
[04:47] <rebel> 3D Acceleration isn't a synonyme of game...
[04:47] <webben> Who organizes how the ubuntu wiki generates html?
[04:47] <krazykit> webben: the wiki software
[04:48] <webben> krazykit: presumably the wiki software is customized though
[04:48] <hellgrazer> kmaynard, I couldn't connect to port 25 locally with ssh.  Is there something I'm missing?
[04:48] <senori> webben: the MoinMoin developers, I'd expect
[04:49] <krazykit> webben: likely only the CSS and such.  the actual HTML generation i doubt they touched
[04:49] <nathansnook> Can I compile programs from source in ubuntu?
[04:49] <krazykit> nathansnook: yes
[04:49] <senori> nathansnook: yes.
[04:49] <krazykit> ubotu: tell nathansnook about build
[04:49] <senori> if you install the necessary packages, that is.
[04:49] <nathansnook> What is the group of packages that I need to download to install source packages?
[04:50] <krazykit> nathansnook: depends.  build-essential is a good start.
[04:50] <nathansnook> ok
[04:50] <nathansnook> I was using Fedora and there i install the dev tools or deps
[04:51] <krazykit> nathansnook: yeah.  same here.
[04:51] <nathansnook> krazykit -- how are you liking ubuntu?
[04:51] <senori> nathansnook: the first thing I do on a fresh system is to apt-get build-dep some packages, which brings in most of the tools and headers necessary for building anything
[04:51] <krazykit> nathansnook: more than i liked redhat-based stuff.
[04:51] <charlie5_zzz> hello all ...
[04:52] <webben> ah hang on ... i see the HTML error is in the buttons at the top
[04:52] <unfknblvbl> hey charlie5_zzz ...
[04:52] <I3lind5pot> havent found any soltion on my problem
[04:52] <I3lind5pot> seems like i have to go switch distro :(
[04:52] <webben> who organizes the menu bar (Support/Community/Planet) etc at the top of the ubuntu website pages?
[04:52] <I3lind5pot> thanx anyway people
[04:52] <webben> because the markup is oddly wrong
[04:52] <I3lind5pot> bbye
[04:52] <charlie5_zzz> i have an old box with mandrake 10.0 ... i'd like to update it to ubuntu ... the old box cannot boot from cdrom, but cd works ok after booting into mandrake ... any docs on how i could do this ?
[04:53] <charlie5_zzz> hi unfknblvbl :)
[04:53] <unfknblvbl> you just need to change your boot order through bios
[04:55] <charlie5_zzz> unfknblvbl: long story, but bios is inaccesible :/
[04:55] <charlie5_zzz> it's an old machine, but with good disk and cpu
[04:55] <charlie5_zzz> and bband netconnect
[04:55] <unfknblvbl> lol
[04:55] <unfknblvbl> then goodluck
[04:56] <Wulong> What are I doing wrong here? thought this would work: http://pastebin.ca/193052
[04:56] <unfknblvbl> sorry no idea charlie5_zzz
[04:56] <charlie5_zzz> ok ... i should just junk it ... but itrs wasting a perfectly good 733 Mhz proceddor ... good for backups or a gateway maybr
[04:56] <senori> charlie5_zzz: sure you can't remove the BIOS power supply to reset it?
[04:57] <root> hi
[04:57] <charlie5_zzz> senori: would it reset to boot from cdrom ... i think it used to ... or is there another way to reset bios ... i can access the board ok
[04:57] <senori> charlie5_zzz: also, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75367.html
[04:57] <krazykit> charlie5_zzz: yeah, clear the CMOS.  failing that email support.  they always have backdoors
[04:57] <krazykit> root: i really hope you're not logged in as root right now.
[04:57] <root> i am
[04:57] <Paddy_EIRE> does anyone know what would be considered the best/fastest socket 462 processor around
[04:57] <senori> charlie5_zzz: is the BIOS just password-protected or something worse?
[04:57] <root> any probs?
[04:57] <wrabbit^> how do you find specific files.  Say I downloaded a document called apt-howto-en
[04:57] <krazykit> yes
[04:57] <wrabbit^> I can't which or fine it
[04:57] <wrabbit^> find*
[04:58] <senori> wrabbit^: whereis apt-howto-en
[04:58] <krazykit> root: many apps aren't terribly clean in the way they act, and could delete or modify things they shouldn't normally.
[04:58] <root> find my pass if u can
[04:58] <root> :P
[04:58] <charlie5_zzz> senori: the old kboard port is dodgy ... only a usb kboard works, and then only after i boot into mandrake
[04:58] <wickedpuppy> wrabbit^, sudo find / -name "*apt-howto-en*" -print
[04:58] <krazykit> root: oh, it's not about security from the outside.
[04:58] <kmaynard> !root
[04:58] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:58] <wickedpuppy> its a very bad habit ...
[04:58] <wrabbit^> senori, that just prints... apt-howto-en:
[04:58] <wrabbit^> I'll try that wickedpuppy
[04:58] <charlie5_zzz> no bootmanagers i've found can handle a usb keyboard, so i'm kinda stuck :/
[04:59] <hardkaare> hi, can someone help me bringing up my wifi connection
[04:59] <krazykit> charlie5_zzz: err... grub and lilo both support them
[04:59] <hardkaare> I can see the ap when I do a iwlist eth1 scan
[05:00] <mp3guy> how do I stop mozplugger automatically playing embedded midi files in firefox? If I go onto a page with many of them it over loads my cpu
[05:00] <hardkaare> but when i use the network gui it dossent connect
[05:00] <charlie5_zzz> krazykit: i've tried to get lilo and grub to boot the install cd, but lack the knowhow ... :/
[05:01] <senori> charlie5_zzz: well, I'd keep helping, but I have to leave: sorry
[05:01] <wrabbit^> thanks wickedpuppy ... worked like a charm
[05:01] <rebel> hardkaare, have you tried network-manager ?
[05:01] <charlie5_zzz> ... but thanks very much guys ... those links look helpful
[05:01] <wrabbit^> wickedpuppy: seriously... how do you remember so many commands?
[05:01] <wickedpuppy> wrabbit^, lol i been using linux for 7+ years ...
[05:01] <charlie5_zzz> senori: no problems ... i got completely ignored several times on #kubuntu ... you blokes are heaps better ... thanks
[05:01] <hardkaare> rebel: whats that?
[05:01] <wrabbit^> wickedpuppy: hehe... Valid reason
[05:01] <wickedpuppy> and screwed up more than i can count
[05:02] <WerdnaServer> http://xkcd.com/c149.html
[05:02] <wrabbit^> I can understand that
[05:02] <krazykit> wickedpuppy: and that's the best way to learn ;-)
[05:02] <WerdnaServer> :D
[05:02] <krazykit> WerdnaServer: sudo make me a sandwich!
[05:02] <wickedpuppy> wrabbit^, learn grep and find .. worth the time learning these two commands
[05:02] <arno> I'll soon find out
[05:02] <WerdnaServer> krazykit is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[05:02] <wrabbit^> wickedpuppy, will do.  Never heard of grep.  /goes off to man grep
[05:02] <valehru> gah, I created a samba share, opened the port for samba, can access the login from XP, however the username/password of my only user is not allowing me to log in at all.  Any hints?
[05:02] <WerdnaServer> o___O
[05:03] <Paddy_EIRE> is it possible to minimise "evolution" to the system tray
[05:03] <Paddy_EIRE> in gnome
[05:03] <michael117> How could I go about emulating 5.1 surround sound by cloning the audio streams of the front two speakers?
[05:03] <valehru> Paddy_EIRE, could your name be any more Irish?
[05:04] <rebel> hardkaare : network-admin
[05:04] <rebel> in a console
[05:05] <Paddy_EIRE> valehru: yeah I know, ppl have come to know it so changing to plain "Paddy" would be diff
[05:06] <valehru> Paddy_EIRE, oh well, I'm an irish man myself, nice to see more and more of us taking up the OS.
[05:06] <silvertip257> hello
[05:06] <Paddy_EIRE> actually I will change my nick now, how is it done
[05:06] <Paddy_EIRE> yes I agree
[05:06] <silvertip257> i'm trying to use cfdisk or format to completely wipe my hard drive & then partition it for linux
[05:06] <valehru> "/nick newNickname"
[05:07] <silvertip257> will anyone help me plz w/ that?
[05:07] <Paddy_EIRE> thx
[05:07] <valehru> np
[05:07] <znh> Hello.
[05:07] <wickedpuppy> silvertip257, you are using livecd ?
[05:07] <znh> By default there is a swapfile used by ubuntu. which file is this? (where is it located)?
[05:08] <silvertip257> yes wickedpuppy I'm currently using the live cd
[05:08] <krazykit> znh: no, by default it uses a swap partition
[05:08] <silvertip257> on this machine
[05:08] <znh> kraut, ok.
[05:08] <wickedpuppy> znh, swap file ? i thought its swap partition ...
[05:08] <wrabbit^> is there a command to open up a html file in the command line?
[05:08] <Paddy> valehru: how would I get it to accept my password
[05:08] <kraut> znh?
[05:08] <wickedpuppy> wrabbit^, links or lynx ..
[05:08] <wickedpuppy> silvertip257, sudo cfdisk /dev/hda
[05:08] <znh> thanks.
[05:08] <wrabbit^> I don't either
[05:08] <wrabbit^> I think
[05:09] <silvertip257> wickedpuppy i think i tried that, but lemme give it a shot
[05:09] <wickedpuppy> silvertip257, if you tried and got error pls tell us so we know the situation
[05:09] <wickedpuppy> rememebr .. we can't see ya
[05:09] <wrabbit^> I'll apt-get links
[05:09] <wrabbit^> or lynx
[05:10] <wrabbit^> and then is it just a case of lynx filename.html?
[05:10] <silvertip257> wickedpuppy it says Fatal Error:  Cannot open disk drive, Press any key 2 exit cfdisk
[05:10] <wickedpuppy> so wrabbit^ you know whats grep ?
[05:10] <wrabbit^> no idea wickedpuppy
[05:10] <wickedpuppy> silvertip257, can you do fdisk -l ?
[05:10] <wickedpuppy> wrabbit^, grep search for words in file/files
[05:10] <hardkaare> rebel: so how do i start it?
[05:10] <silvertip257> lemme c (i'm verrrrry new ... ty for help)
[05:10] <wrabbit^> ah right
[05:11] <wickedpuppy> for example grep "ubuntu help me" how-to
[05:11] <silvertip257> wicked puppy it says cannot open /dev/hde
[05:11] <wrabbit^> ah ok.... I'll give that a go
[05:11] <Paddy_EIRE> I guess I will remain Paddy_EIRE ,
[05:11] <wickedpuppy> a or e ??
[05:11] <rebel> hardkaare, run a terminal, and type this command in it
[05:11] <silvertip257> wickedpuppy E
[05:11] <wickedpuppy> silvertip257, try a
[05:11] <Zv_oDD> Would it be relatively easy to get ubuntu to dual boot on a Fedora MAchine?
[05:11] <silvertip257> i have wickedpuppy
[05:12] <wrabbit^> wickedpuppy, it's hardly useful without a console based browser right?
[05:12] <wickedpuppy> silvertip257, can paste sudo fdisk -l on the pastbin ?
[05:12] <silvertip257> wickedpuppy i did fdisk -l, it says cannot open /dev/hde
[05:12] <wickedpuppy> wrabbit^, what is hardly useful ?
[05:12] <pike_away> Zv_oDD: if fedora is already installed it will set it up dual boot for you. shouldnt have to do anything
[05:12] <wickedpuppy> silvertip257, sudo ?
[05:12] <wrabbit^> grep
[05:12] <silvertip257> ok wickedpuppy now the sudo fdisk works
[05:12] <wickedpuppy> did you put sudo fdisk -l ? or just fdisk -l
[05:12] <hardkaare> rebel: I tryed that, typed in the essid and the passowrd
[05:12] <wrabbit^> I'm trying to understand the man file
[05:12] <hardkaare> but still no go
[05:13] <wickedpuppy> wrabbit^, whats grep gotta do with browser ?
[05:13] <charlie5_zzz> would 'clear cmos function' the same thing as resetting bios ?
[05:13] <Zv_oDD> so if i tell it i want unbuntu on it will automaticly do it?
[05:13] <wrabbit^> wickedpuppy: Nothing.  I don't know what I'm talking about.
[05:13] <silvertip257> wickedpuppy it's on  /dev/hde1 ? is that ok ?
[05:13] <Zv_oDD> or are there more steps?
[05:13] <wickedpuppy> silvertip257, have you reg your nick ?
[05:13] <Zv_oDD> :P
[05:14] <silvertip257> no wickedpuppy
[05:14] <axisys> how do mount a SunDisk SDP3B-110, CFA DISK drive for read write? it only allows read now
[05:14] <axisys> its a pcmcia card
[05:14] <wickedpuppy> silvertip257, can paste the whole of sudo fdisk -l on the pastebin ?
[05:14] <krazykit> axisys: depends.  what's the filesystem?
[05:14] <silvertip257> pastebin ?
[05:14] <wickedpuppy> !pastebin
[05:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:15] <krazykit> axisys: actually, tell the channel, i gotta go
[05:15] <siIvertip257> Oh look at my I am A LAma!
[05:15] <rebel> hardkaare, and ?
[05:15] <kandala> Hi all, Can anyone help me on installing Sun-Java on my Ubuntu m/c please
[05:15] <silvertip257> wtf that's nt me sayin that
[05:15] <rebel> first of all, you typed the ESSID or was it proposed in the list ?
[05:15] <siIvertip257> Rabble Rabble Rabble
[05:16] <siIvertip257> Rabble Rabble Rabble
[05:16] <hardkaare> rebel:  did a iwconfig, and it was not connected
[05:16] <siIvertip257> Yes it is I Am LEING!
[05:16] <silvertip257> ok who's the azz who is doin that ... quit it
[05:16] <wickedpuppy> oh boy .. i gotta sleep .. silvertip257 erase your whole harddisk right ? just keep deleting .. make sure you back up everything
[05:16] <siIvertip257> HAHAHA
[05:16] <highneko> mplayer isn't closing, and I don't know it's process name.
[05:16] <Zv_oDD> it was fun while it lasted
[05:16] <silvertip257> ok ty wickedpuppy
[05:16] <larsemil> hmm why is firefox beta 2, the one included in edgy not saving any passwords?
[05:17] <Paddy_EIRE> larsemil: #ubuntu+1
[05:17] <kandala> How to install sun-java ?
[05:17] <Paddy_EIRE> !java
[05:17] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:18] <highneko> Anyone know mplayer process name?
[05:18] <axisys> my pcmcia card mounts as iso 9660
[05:18] <ProN00b> are there any java bytecode assemblers ?
[05:18] <kandala> ubotu: I read that page, but no luck with that
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I read that page, but no luck with that - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <silvertip257> hey will anyone help me out ? w/ *cfdisk* ?
[05:18] <axisys> how do i mount it as a diff fs so taht i can write to it?
[05:19] <rebel> hardkaare, have you chosen the good encryption ? have you a DHCP server ?
[05:19] <Paddy_EIRE> ProN00b: is the "eclipse" environment not able to do this
[05:19] <Archville> highneko: just "mplayer"
[05:19] <ProN00b> Paddy_EIRE, eh what ?
[05:19] <b03nto> help, i cant open my pdf file with evince, it say --> Unhandled MIME type: 'application/octet-stream'
[05:20] <CroX> In the guide on how to install drivers for an ati card, $(uname -r) is mentioned. What do I replace this with?
[05:20] <Paddy_EIRE> ProN00b: what are you doing, building an app... if so use eclipse
[05:20] <Paddy_EIRE> ProN00b: for java that is
[05:20] <ProN00b> b03nto, are you sure it is a pdf ?
[05:20] <kandala> ubotu: Even that points to the above link that you gave me....! Any other way of installing it?
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Even that points to the above link that you gave me....! Any other way of installing it? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <highneko> Does gnome have that crossbones thing for killing windows?!
[05:20] <b03nto> yes, it work in windows
[05:20] <azzco> Hi I've been using ubuntu for a while now... I'm trying to make a /home partition for the first time, should it be extended or primary? and how do I make ubuntu recognise it as/home folder?
[05:20] <Paddy_EIRE> highneko: alt+f2 then type xkill
[05:20] <hardkaare> rebel: how do i choose an encryption
[05:21] <b03nto> and if i type file bla.pdf in cli it say its pdf
[05:21] <hardkaare> rebel: the ap is dhcp server
[05:21] <rebel> oki
[05:21] <ProN00b> Paddy_EIRE, no, i mean like turning java bytecode into a normal binary code that can run natively
[05:21] <rebel> you have to choose the encryption in the network-admin window
[05:21] <Paddy_EIRE> wouldnt really know about that
[05:21] <YBH_1> azzco, see /etc/fstab & man fstab i& info fstab.
[05:22] <Paddy_EIRE> ProN00b: did you try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:22] <rebel> when you open properties for your wifi card, you can choose the AP you wanna connect to and the encryption
[05:22] <highneko> Paddy_EIRE: Neat, thanks. I love that program ;)
[05:22] <Paddy_EIRE> nice one
[05:22] <ProN00b> azzco, you mount it to /home
[05:22] <pike_away> crox uname -r displays your kernel version.  when you use the `` it tells the shell to execute whatevers in those so just typing echo something-`uname -r` will give like something-2.4.blah
[05:22] <tk> variant: you around today?
[05:22] <hardkaare> rebel: i did that
[05:22] <kandala> ubotu: Do I need to add any new urls to the sources.list file for multiverse repositories
[05:22] <azzco> THX :) I'll try then
[05:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Do I need to add any new urls to the sources.list file for multiverse repositories - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:22] <rebel> and here, you'll have to enter the key and choose whether it's WEP or WPA
[05:22] <rebel> ok
[05:22] <sproingie> ProN00b: you could ask in ##java, but the quick answer is that eclipse doesn't support gcj as a compiler
[05:22] <b03nto> help, i cant open my pdf file with evince, it say --> Unhandled MIME type: 'application/octet-stream', the file is pdf, i check it with file comman in cli
[05:22] <Paddy_EIRE> highneko: you may also add it to the panel by right click add to panel, it will be there somewhere
[05:23] <ProN00b> sproingie, i thought gcj was java code to binary code, and not java bytecode to binary code ?
[05:23] <Paddy_EIRE> highneko: its called "force quit"
[05:23] <sproingie> ProN00b: it does both
[05:23] <b03nto> hello
[05:23] <utab> is that possible that ld.so.conf is missing
[05:23] <ProN00b> sproingie, is it easy to do that with jars ?
[05:23] <hardkaare> rebel: eth1      unassociated  ESSID:"CaLa"
[05:23] <hardkaare>           Mode:Managed  Frequency=nan kHz  Access Point: Not-Associated
[05:24] <sproingie> ProN00b: nope.  you'd probably have to ask in ##java, though they don't much like gcj there
[05:24] <kandala> Help please....installing sun-java.....
[05:25] <rebel> hardkaare, check PV :)
[05:25] <b03nto> help, i cant open my pdf file with evince, it say --> Unhandled MIME type: 'application/octet-stream'. any help..??
[05:25] <sproingie> installing sun's java is easy if you don't bother using apt
[05:25] <hardkaare> rebel: pv?
[05:25] <sproingie> download it, run the installer, done
[05:25] <rebel> hardkaare, private dialog
[05:25] <kandala> sproingie: I did that, but some of things are not happening as I expected. So, wondering if it is to do with non apt-get install of sun-java
[05:26] <CroX> pike_: Thanks
[05:26] <b03nto> ok, i change my questions, how to change mime type ??
[05:26] <sproingie> kandala: get rid of gcj
[05:26] <kandala> sproingie: ok! lemme try that! Thanks :-)
[05:27] <hardkaare> rebel: sorry whats that?
[05:27] <pike_> b03nto: not sure where it is in gnome but if you type gnome-file-types-properties in a terminal that might work..
[05:27] <Paddy_EIRE> kandala: go to http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper then search for  "How to install J2SE Runtime Environment (JRE) with Plug-in for Mozilla Firefox"
[05:27] <sproingie> i found manually installing the plugin to be easier too
[05:28] <sproingie> it's like apt has a grudge against java
[05:28] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah
[05:28] <s-toned> Is there a problem with dapper and xserver-xorg-driver-mga or is it my fault?
[05:28] <rebel> arf hardkaare you never used irc before, did you ?
[05:28] <kmaynard> !wireless > kmaynard
[05:28] <rebel> what is your IRC client ? X-chat ?
[05:28] <weakwire> hi i compiled gaim 2.00 beta 3.1 with checkinstall..now apt-get upgrade keep install the previous gaim beta 3 . what can i do to make the compiled one the defauld one.. ? thank you
[05:28] <kandala> sproingie: should I do apt-get remove java-gcj?
[05:28] <pike_> b03nto: are you opening with firefox or just a pdf on desktop?
[05:28] <ce> where can i find packages for the linux-source >= 2.6.17
[05:28] <ce> ?
[05:29] <b03nto> pdf on desktop
[05:29] <M_A_K> Can I mount an nfs share as a specific user/uid?
[05:29] <maxb_at_work> How does a 'make-jpkg'-ed JVM get its default java.library.path ?
[05:29] <b03nto> its tuxmagazine
[05:29] <sproingie> kandala: yep
[05:29] <kandala> sproingie: "Couldn't find package java-gcj"
[05:29] <sproingie> kandala: if you have any packages that require java, you have a bit of a hairball on your hands.  you can try putting your java install first in $PATH
[05:30] <b03nto> and if i did file tux18.pdf its says it is pdf
[05:30] <Paddy_EIRE> kandala: did you do with sudo
[05:30] <sproingie> kandala: ok then you shouldn't have any problems :)
[05:30] <pike_> b03nto: in the older vers of gnome you would either rightclick and edit open with or use that app i think
[05:30] <kandala> Paddy_EIRE: yes
[05:30] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[05:30] <kandala> sproingie: That means, java-gcj is not installed, correct?
[05:31] <sproingie> kandala: that's probably the case
[05:31] <larsemil> whats the gnome program for alt+tab switching called?
[05:31] <weakwire> can anyone help me?
[05:31] <hardkaare> rebel: i have enabled now, you mean the dcc-chat?
[05:31] <nox-Hand> Hey
[05:31] <sproingie> kandala: i think that's the default jvm installed.  you could make sure kaffe isn't on there
[05:31] <b03nto> i even try it in cli (evince file.pdf) still it say Unhandled MIME type: 'application/octet-stream'
[05:31] <kandala> sproingie: how to do that?
[05:31] <pike_> b03nto: maybe a problem with magic file?
[05:31] <xtriox> does anybody knows how to add System.Data to Mono in ubuntu??
[05:31] <axisys> anyone would know how to mount pcmcia in rw?
[05:31] <nox-Hand> I have a lappy here, which has a Core 2 Duo processor in it (( conroe )), and I was wondering what I should have of kernel to make Ubuntu even better? And how
[05:32] <b03nto> pike: and how to fix it..
[05:32] <axisys> fdisk -l shows /dev/hdc2   *         329      106968       53320   a5  FreeBSD
[05:32] <rebel> hardkaare, not really...
[05:32] <rebel> check in your IRC client the list of opened channels...
[05:32] <rebel> you will find one with my name ;)
[05:32] <rebel> go on it !
[05:32] <hardkaare> rebel: how do i check it, im using the new xchat-gnome thing
[05:33] <b03nto> and i cant find gnome-file-types-properties command
[05:33] <sproingie> kandala: just search for it in packages.  mind you if all you have is a manually installed jvm, installing stuff like azureus through apt will also give you grief
[05:33] <rebel> yep, precisely, look at the left panel of the program
[05:33] <s-toned> b03nto: /etc/mime.types and ~/.mime.types
[05:33] <sproingie> kandala: i just do java EE development, so i don't get much use out of apt
[05:33] <igcek> im wondering about support ubuntu has for cable modems that are connected to pc over usb?
[05:33] <Paddy_EIRE> larsemil: why do you ask
[05:34] <igcek> is there any? :)
[05:34] <kandala> sproingie: ok!
[05:34] <axisys> !pcmcia
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcmcia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <b03nto> s-toned: ok, and what should i do with that...
[05:35] <rebel> hardkaare, is it ok ? do you find it ?
[05:35] <Paddy_EIRE> larsemil: you could add the window selection applet to one of the panels if thats what you would like
[05:36] <jasper> Just installed Lamp with Webmin, now iam trying to start SSH but openssh is installed, and webmin doesnt use openssh is there a way to let it use openssh instead of ssh?
[05:36] <hardkaare> rebel: nope can't find it
[05:36] <rebel> ...
[05:36] <rebel> so right-click on my name
[05:36] <rebel> and choose "open the dialog window" or something like that
[05:36] <b03nto> and it happen to all my pdf file...
[05:38] <afief> What software can i use to read CHM files?
[05:38] <bellemerlord> hello, does someone have experience with a wince ppc with win mobile 2003 se and ubuntu, does that work? I want to install ubuntu to a friends laptop, and he has and uses such a pda
[05:38] <b03nto> afief:xchm
[05:38] <b03nto> afief:or gnochm
[05:39] <afief> b03nto: i'll go with the gnome solution:) thank you
[05:39] <Paddy_EIRE> does anyone here use "superswitcher"
[05:40] <axisys> ufs was compiled with read-only support, can't be mounted as read-write
[05:40] <axisys> how do mount the pcmaci flash card as read/write
[05:41] <david83> !stfu
[05:41] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[05:41] <b03nto> help, i cant open my pdf file with evince, it say --> Unhandled MIME type: 'application/octet-stream'. any help..??
[05:41] <unfknblvbl> jfgi ?
[05:41] <unfknblvbl> oh
[05:42] <david83> b03nto can you open another pdf file with evince?
[05:42] <boink> is the latest mysql server on dapper 4.1 ?
[05:42] <boink> or is there mysql 5 too?
[05:43] <b03nto> david83, nope.. but i can do that in windows :(
[05:43] <xUnaBx> hello
[05:43] <b03nto> its look like mime type problem, and i dont know how to fix it..
[05:44] <eddiestone> how do I play a rmvb video?
[05:44] <boink> duh .. found it, dapper has 5.0 as well as 4.1 :P
[05:44] <graabein> hi, i've got a question about bluetooth file sharing
[05:45] <david83> b03nto is just that mime (adobe pdf) is not connected with the adobe reader
[05:45] <b03nto> gnome think all my pdf file as application/octet-stream, its so weird..
[05:45] <graabein> i'm trying to send a file from my phone to my computer and i've got bluetooth manager running and the phone says it's okay but i don't know where the file is saved???
[05:46] <b03nto> david83, yes, and how do i connect it..?
[05:46] <xUnaBx> i just changed my monitor for a tiny 8' LCD that goes max to 800x600. I  changed xorg.conf to get this resolution, without any trouble. At that i point i had kde running okay, but i did not have any screen feedback while booting or in console mode. i googled a bit and i found that adding the right vga= value and the correct refresh rate (as in xorg.conf) to the kernel options solved my problem. But this works only AFTER the boot has
[05:46] <unfknblvbl> 8" !!!
[05:46] <xUnaBx> where can i add such value in the menu.lst, or elsewhere?
[05:47] <silvertip257> ok i know that this is not the right place, but no one will answer me in the correct channel
[05:47] <silvertip257> dsl@box:~$ sudo -u root dsl-hdinstall
[05:47] <silvertip257> sudo: unable to exec /usr/sbin/dsl-hdinstall: Input/output error
[05:47] <xUnaBx> haha thx
[05:47] <silvertip257> what am I doing wrong?
[05:47] <UKMatt> does anyone know why a DivX .avi file might be scrambled when played in Ubuntu (even with all the codecs - i'm pretty sure)
[05:47] <Wulong> I'm adding the same line as in the sudoers manual example, still don't work, should be right, right? check the link: http://pastebin.ca/193052
[05:47] <Dr_willis> xUnaBx,  could use the vga=ask option, or the nofb option to disable the Framebuffer competely
[05:47] <xUnaBx> Dr_willis : where should i add this option?
[05:48] <silvertip257> wickedpuppy u here still ?
[05:48] <xtriox> does anybody knows how to add System.Data to Mono in ubuntu??
[05:48] <Dr_willis> xUnaBx,  in the right place in the menu.lst and rerun update-grub,  menu.lst is VERY well commented/documented... or as a test - reboot and  use the 'e'dit feature to append the option to the end of the kernel= line
[05:48] <silvertip257> would someone--*anyone* help me ???
[05:49] <xUnaBx> Dr_willis : that's my point
[05:49] <david83> !ask
[05:49] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:49] <graabein> i have bluetooth question: where does the files from my phone get saved??
[05:49] <xUnaBx> Dr_willis : i CANT see the menu
[05:49] <silvertip257> ok david83
[05:49] <b03nto> gnome think all my pdf file as application/octet-stream, its so weird..
[05:49] <graabein> i have bluetooth manager running on dapper and send okay from my phone to my computer
[05:49] <xUnaBx> Dr_willis : if i add options to my kernel, it's okay, but it works only after this kernel has been chosen
[05:49] <xUnaBx> Dr_willis : but i dont know where to add options to modify the grub menu itself
[05:50] <Dr_willis> xUnaBx,   hit the escape key.. or edit the menu.lst and disable that lame 'hide the menu' option.  then reboot. use the nofb option perhaps is the best thing to do
[05:50] <Dr_willis> xUnaBx,  its all in menu.lst - edit the file as root.
[05:50] <silvertip257> dsl@box:~$ sudo -u root dsl-hdinstall
[05:50] <silvertip257> I get this error when i try to do this command (i know it's not Ubuntu, but no one will answer me in #damsmalllinux channel; sudo: unable to exec /usr/sbin/dsl-hdinstall: Input/output error
[05:50] <Dr_willis> xUnaBx,  and grub is very very well documented on the web.
[05:50] <silvertip257> * #damnsmalllinux channel
[05:50] <silvertip257> david83, what do u think?
[05:51] <Enselic> I get confused by grep, in the info grep it uses PATTERN for both the pattern to search for, and the pattern for --exlude files, but that is not the same
[05:51] <UKMatt> does anyone know where I can find a .oog codec
[05:51] <david83> silvertip257 try su ->> rootpassword and the dsl-hdinstall
[05:51] <xUnaBx> Dr_willis : okay thx, but i dont know where i have to put this "nofb" option in menu.lst. i tried on google and i couldnt fint anything but the options that should be added to the kernel lines. As i said, i tried that and it applies ot the kernel only after this one has been chosen, not to the grub menu itself
[05:51] <Enselic> UKMatt: .oog or .ogg?
[05:51] <silvertip257> david83 what's the "su"
[05:52] <Dr_willis> xUnaBx,  # defoptions=quiet nosplash          is what i would be using.
[05:52] <silvertip257> su = sudo?
[05:52] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[05:52] <UKMatt> enselic, .ogg
[05:52] <MetaMorfoziS> su ~ = sudo -i
[05:52] <xUnaBx> Dr_willis : actually adding iit to my kernel options solved the console issue : i have now a feedback in console mode. but i cant see the grub menu at boot.
[05:52] <MetaMorfoziS> !lmsensors
[05:52] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[05:52] <silvertip257> well david83 i do not have a password, i'm running live cd currently
[05:52] <Dr_willis> xUnaBx,  the menu.lst has the kernel lines.. but the update-grub autogenerates the kenel= lines.
[05:52] <MrFatJack> totem refuses to play .mov files. What do I need to install to fix this?
[05:52] <Dr_willis> xUnaBx,  next time  a kernel is added, the update-grub command MAY remove your changes if you dont do them right
[05:53] <graabein> anyone have experience with bluetooth file manager???
[05:53] <xUnaBx> Dr_willis : i know :) i've added my options to my kernel, and they solved the console issue. but i cant see grub at boot
[05:53] <david83> silvertip257 you are running the live cd? a moment plz
[05:53] <Enselic> UKMatt: I am able to play .ogg files out of the box
[05:53] <silvertip257> david83 yes i'm runnin live CD
[05:53] <UKMatt> enselic, through what player?
[05:54] <Enselic> UKMatt: totem
[05:54] <Dr_willis> xUnaBx,  # Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu)
[05:54] <Dr_willis>  #hiddenmenu          <-------- I commented Out this line.. so the menu always shows. (or should)
[05:54] <UKMatt> enselic, i'm getting a "the file you are trying to play is empty" and... it isnt
[05:54] <xUnaBx> Dr_willis : okay :)
[05:54] <xUnaBx> Dr_willis : i'm trying that right now
[05:55] <Enselic> UKMatt: Even for any .ogg file? Download one from the internet and tr
[05:55] <UKMatt> enselic, and beep media gives me "can't be played b/c 1, they are inaccessable, or 2 i don't have the media plugins
[05:55] <UKMatt> enselic, yeah
[05:55] <silvertip257> david83, still lookin ?
[05:56] <Enselic> UKMatt: weird, try to reinstall Totem perhaps
[05:56] <david83> silvertip257, try sudo su
[05:56] <UKMatt> enselic, it's all media players though
[05:56] <nobody_lv> sudo bash :D
[05:56] <silvertip257> ok david83
[05:57] <david83> silvertip257, and now your command dsl-hdinstall
[05:57] <silvertip257> david83, it says unable to exec that cmd
[05:57] <glootech> hi
[05:58] <david83> silvertip257, try a "ls -l" is there a dsl-hdinstall script or something like that?
[05:58] <dbzdeath> hey could someone help me please? i'm getting the same problem as this guy http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79136&highlight=choppy+sound but it happens to me in every application that uses alsa including xmms and wine(i turned it off in wine because apparently alsa support isn't so good)
[05:58] <silvertip257> umm lemme look
[05:58] <glootech> I have xfce isntalled... but something is wrong with the settings of one of the users... I would like to remove all of the users settings for xfce
[05:58] <glootech> but how do I do that?
[05:58] <glootech> tried to do it the windows way
[05:58] <silvertip257> bash-2.05b# ls -l
[05:58] <glootech> I mean, I removed xfce, and then installed it once again
[05:58] <silvertip257> david83 this is what i get-rw-rw-r--    1 dsl      staff         119 Aug  3  2005 Events
[05:58] <glootech> but the settings remained
[05:58] <Dr_willis> glootech,  the users has some sort of .xfce dirctory
[05:59] <glootech> but where? :)
[05:59] <Dr_willis> glootech,  the point to rember it - its a USER setting.. so its in their home dir.
[05:59] <Dr_willis> look in the  users home dir.
[05:59] <xUnaBx> Dr_willis : that didnt work
[05:59] <graabein> yoyoyo! anyone know how to send files from phone to computer through bluetooth??
[05:59] <silvertip257> david83 i do not see an install script
[05:59] <xUnaBx> Dr_willis : i cant see the grub menu, the display starts after the kernel has been chosen
[05:59] <glootech> Dr_willis: ok, thanks for the advice, I'll check it
[05:59] <tzontzon> sal all
[06:00] <graabein> salute
[06:00] <david83> silvertip257, ok type exit and get off root access
[06:00] <tzontzon> vreau si eu un ajutor cu ubuntu
[06:00] <tzontzon> sunt incepator
[06:00] <Dr_willis> xUnaBx,  no clue then.. if grub is being confused by the monitor.. its possible that the  lcd cant handle the  normal  rates..  .. not sure how to change the res/display/rates of the grub boot screen itself.
[06:00] <silvertip257> david83, what do i do now to get it installed?
[06:00] <silvertip257> david83 i'm off root
[06:00] <david83> silvertip257, http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/index.php/Installing_to_the_Hard_Disk try this one
[06:01] <silvertip257> i've look @ that stuff, didnt get anywhere, but maybe that's b/d i'm new @ it
[06:01] <valehru>  how can I open up a graphical file manager window as root?
[06:01] <xUnaBx> Dr_willis : well the monitor is quite a hack itself, that makes sense. It works perfectly in 800x600 24bits, though
[06:01] <valehru> sudo gksudo something here?
[06:02] <Dr_willis> xUnaBx,  it shows the BIOS menus/screens properly?
[06:02] <cycom> Is there a way to speed up the physical terminals? like the ones on ctrl-alt-f1, etc?  If I ssh into the machine and run the a script that is output-heavy, it runs in 1m38s.  If I run it on the physical terminal, it takes 6m51s
[06:02] <david83> silvertip257, how long did you get through the Howto?
[06:02] <xUnaBx> Dr_willis : probably a low vsync; i had to put vsync=60 into my kernel options to make it work
[06:02] <b03nto> i still have problem with pdf file, gnome recognise it as application/octet-stream
[06:02] <silvertip257> david83 i went thru similar steps, but not this page
[06:02] <xUnaBx> Dr_willis : yeah bios menus are there
[06:02] <Dr_willis> xUnaBx,  Ive removed so much eye candy from ubuntus boot startup.. could be usplash, or somthing else messing with it.. but thats all after grub
[06:03] <silvertip257> david83 i found a tut on partitioning & did that, so i have 4 partitions
[06:03] <tzontzon> vreun roman pe aici_
[06:03] <b03nto> ok, now evince say Unhandled MIME type: 'application/x-extension-pdf', and still cant open it
[06:03] <xUnaBx> Dr_willis : i had a bart PE boot cd hanging around, i tried it and it did work without any glitch in the display
[06:03] <tzontzon> ?
[06:03] <Dr_willis> xUnaBx,  try som eother live linux cd;s perhaps.
[06:03] <Knifa> Everytime I try to uninstall GAIM it tries to uninstall ubuntu-desktop (which in turn decides to try to uninstall everything)
[06:03] <glootech> Dr_willis: found it, thanks!
[06:03] <Knifa> is there anyway around that?
[06:03] <glootech> :)
[06:03] <Dr_willis> xUnaBx,  as far as i know the GRUB menu display is about as low-level/generic/standard ascii as it can get
[06:04] <xe||> Knifa: afaik, ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage, so i heard that it's safe to uninstall?
[06:04] <MrFatJack> totem refuses to play .mov files. What do I need to install to fix this?
[06:04] <silvertip257> david83 idk if this is good/bad, but my hd shows up as /dev/hde1
[06:04] <david83> silvertip257, 4 partitions ;) sounds like fun
[06:04] <xUnaBx> Dr_willis : okay thx anyway
[06:04] <silvertip257> david83 that's what the tutorial said
[06:05] <segfault> MrFatJack, read restricted formats page on ubuntu site
[06:05] <silvertip257> david83 should i have done something differently???
[06:05] <MrFatJack> segfault, thanks I will
[06:05] <david83> silvertip257, hde is just because your harddrive is at the 5 IDE port (strange)
[06:05] <Knifa> xe|| ah yeah, anytime i install something using the apt-get command it comes up "use autoremove to uninstall <every base package>" though
[06:05] <Knifa> but i'll just ignore it i guess
[06:06] <silvertip257> david83 well this machine was setup weird & i'm not rearranging the IDE cables & stuff
[06:06] <segfault> xe||, yes it is, but take care when dist-upgrading to next release it could cause issues
[06:06] <silvertip257> at least not now
[06:06] <Ioh> does anyone know what to do about updating ati drivers? when i start wow i cant see anything. i mean i can, but it doesnt show some of the images that it should.
[06:06] <tzontzon> vorbeste mah, careva romaneste pe aici?
[06:06] <jikanter> Knifa: could I have some more info?
[06:06] <unfknblvbl> arggg
[06:06] <Knifa> jikanter, what do you mean/
[06:06] <Knifa> ?
[06:06] <david83> silvertip257, ;) but you adjusted to hde1 and stuff right?
[06:06] <jikanter> show me the exact command you write
[06:06] <Knifa> ah
[06:07] <Knifa> okay first i do apt-get remove gaim
[06:07] <Knifa> which says it's going to remove ubuntu-desktop
[06:07] <Knifa> and gaim itself
[06:07] <silvertip257> david83 what do u mean?
[06:07] <Knifa> so after it completes that it says <blah blah> additional packages are safe to uninstall <every package ever>
[06:07] <Knifa> and it does the same anytime i install something else using apt-get install
[06:07] <jikanter> ok, I would try using software-tools
[06:07] <b03nto> how to told gnome that pdf file is pdf file not octet-stream, so evince can open it..??
[06:07] <jikanter> are you using gnome or kde?
[06:07] <Knifa> jikanter, gnome
[06:08] <jikanter> ok, applications->add-remove
[06:08] <mrotacon> hi every1 - is there any software out there, like proxifier in winblows? that will let me run all programs but injecting a http proxy into them? i am behind a restrictive proxy which i must use, just managed to get my gprs working though
[06:08] <silvertip257> david83 what did u mean?
[06:08] <Knifa> jikanter, kay
[06:08] <david83> silvertip257, did you change the hda1 that was perhaps in your tutorial to hde1 as it is in your current machine?
[06:08] <Knifa> you mean remove gaim that way?
[06:08] <jikanter> yup
[06:08] <Knifa> kay hold on i'll give that a try
[06:08] <jooozek> hi!
[06:09] <jooozek> i've got an problem
[06:09] <david83> !ask
[06:09] <b03nto> mrotacon: try tor and privoxy
[06:09] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:09] <jooozek> i'm using edgy eft
[06:09] <jooozek> and mpd
[06:09] <jooozek> my problem is, that
[06:09] <silvertip257> david83 all i've done is set up the partitions on it
[06:09] <jooozek> when i use mpdscribble
[06:09] <Jowi> !enter
[06:09] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[06:09] <jooozek> after reboot it doesn't sends data to last.fm
[06:09] <mrotacon> ok thanks - does tor allow me to tunnel through the proxy that i have to use though
[06:09] <jooozek> it just logs
[06:10] <Knifa> jikanter: it uninstalls fine but it still removes the ubuntu-desktop metapackage thingy
[06:10] <jooozek> i must run then dpkg-reconfigure
[06:10] <Knifa> so it still comes up the autoremove stuff on the command
[06:10] <Knifa> it isn't a big deal really
[06:10] <Knifa> i can just ignore it
[06:10] <jooozek> and the second problem is
[06:10] <Knifa> but i was wondering incase it messes things up
[06:10] <jooozek> that i use an psx gamepad
[06:10] <jooozek> and on every boot i must modprobe gamecon
[06:10] <jikanter> Knifa: did you change any other system-configuration files recently?
[06:10] <jooozek> and rmmod lp, of course
[06:10] <b03nto> mrotacon: i guess it can
[06:10] <Knifa> jikanter nope
[06:11] <Dr_willis> jooozek,  /etc/modules  - has list to load at boot time
[06:11] <david83> silvertip257, ok so what did you do since you started boot up the live CD and partitioned your hde1 with 4 partitions to hde2 -hde4?
[06:11] <mrotacon> ok - thanks - i'll give it a try
[06:11] <Knifa> i'm running the edgy eft daily build from yesterday btw
[06:11] <Knifa> if that makes a differecne
[06:11] <Dr_willis> # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.
[06:11] <jooozek> Dr_willis: okay, i will check that one
[06:11] <jikanter> ohhh... that explains it
[06:11] <b03nto> mrotacon: but if u use tor u cant join this channel :(
[06:11] <jikanter> ok, yeah just ignore it
[06:11] <Knifa> okay :P
[06:11] <offby1> everyone: a recent kernel upgrade broke my wireless card, but an even _more_ recent upgrade fixed it again.  So if you too suffer, fear not
[06:11] <silvertip257> david83 yes partitions 1-4
[06:11] <dragonriot> offby1... what wireless card?
[06:12] <jooozek> Dr_willis: oh, i forgot, i already have that inside that file
[06:12] <david83> silvertip257, and that's all you've done?
[06:12] <mrotacon> yeah - i had a feeling the tor hostnames would be banned - used it in winblows a while back... ill just have to not use it for here
[06:12] <silvertip257> david83 it shows up as hde1p1, p2, p3, p4
[06:12] <jooozek> i think, that "lp" module is messing up with it
[06:12] <silvertip257> david83 yes
[06:12] <dragonriot> offby1... and what kernel versions broke and subsequently fixed it?
[06:12] <Dr_willis> jooozek,  lp is for a printer... wht kind of game controller ya got?
[06:12] <silent_scream> i have 2 logiteck joysticks. but jscalibrator recognize only the one. is there any way to calibrate the other?
[06:12] <jooozek> Dr_willis: dual shock, on a lpt adaptor
[06:12] <flai> does anyone have probs with nvidia binary drivers in edgy?
[06:12] <offby1> dragonriot: a fairly common LinkSys, with an orinoco driver.  The fixed version is 2.6.17-10.28; the broken one is ... hold on
[06:12] <Dr_willis> jooozek,  ick.
[06:13] <jooozek> Dr_willis: ick ?
[06:13] <nobody_lv> flai: install nvidia-glx
[06:13] <offby1> dragonriot: a fairly common LinkSys, with an orinoco driver.  The fixed version is 2.6.17-10.28; the broken one is ... 2.6.17-10.27, not surprisingly :-)
[06:13] <Dr_willis> jooozek,  you actually managed to find a joystick that plugs in to the parrallel port with an adaptor?
[06:13] <flai> nobody_lv: yeah ... doenst work ... blank screen
[06:13] <jooozek> Dr_willis: it does
[06:13] <david83> silvertip257, hde1p1? strange
[06:13] <jooozek> i'm using it now
[06:13] <jooozek> but
[06:13] <jooozek> the problem is
[06:13] <dragonriot> offby1... ahh... I was hoping you'd say something like Broadcom... heh
[06:13] <silent_scream> the one is in /dev/input/js0 and the other in /dev/input/js1 . but jscalibrator recognize them as the same
[06:13] <nobody_lv> flai: did you edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[06:13] <b03nto> if i install acroread will it work...?
[06:13] <jooozek> that i must on every bot modprobe the module
[06:14] <silvertip257> david83 yes p1=partion1, that's what i'm seein
[06:14] <offby1> dragonriot: sorry :-)  The relevant ChangeLog comment seems to be "prism2: Fix packed attribute so p80211 works."
[06:14] <dragonriot> ah
[06:14] <flai> nobody_lv: just sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[06:14] <nobody_lv> flai: you upgraded or installed edgy on blank disk?
[06:14] <dragonriot> is the 2.6.18 kernel in the repositories yet?
[06:14] <flai> nobody_lv: yes
[06:14] <Dr_willis> jooozek,  if you never want the lp module loaded.. i recall a modules blacklist file somewhere
[06:14] <b03nto> how to told gnome that pdf file is pdf file not octet-stream, so evince can open it..??
[06:14] <silvertip257> david83 /dev/hde1p1 is the format
[06:15] <silvertip257> of the devices
[06:15] <nobody_lv> flai: yes upgraded or yes installed? :D
[06:15] <flai> nobody_lv: blank disk is a prob ? :)
[06:15] <jooozek> Dr_willis: do you know where could it be ?
[06:15] <flai> installed
[06:15] <Dr_willis> jooozek,  in /etc/ som,ewhere :)
[06:15] <flai> nobody_lv: fresh install
[06:15] <jooozek> Dr_willis: blah ;] 
[06:15] <Dr_willis> jooozek,  thats what the 'locate' command is good for
[06:15] <nobody_lv> flai: I think, that in your xorg.conf there is generic not nvidia driver
[06:15] <Dr_willis> locate blacklist
[06:16] <Dr_willis> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[06:16] <flai> nobody_lv: checking ...
[06:16] <jooozek> oh
[06:16] <nobody_lv> good.. :D
[06:16] <Dr_willis> jooozek,  rember that command. :P
[06:16] <david83> silvertip257, normally the partitions are the number hde is the whole disk hde1 is the first partition to hde4 which is the last normaly
[06:16] <silvertip257> david83 that's what i thought when i saw it
[06:17] <flai> nobody_lv: now its nv in xorg.conf but when it wasnt working it was nvidia ... i'm sure bout that
[06:17] <jooozek> okay, so that problem is fixed
[06:17] <silvertip257> david83 should i look that page back up & have u see what i did wrong?
[06:17] <jooozek> next to is problem with fglrx
[06:17] <david83> silvertip257, anyway is one of this partions a swap partition`
[06:17] <jooozek> it doesn't loads after the boot
[06:17] <nobody_lv> flai: your nvidia module is loaded?
[06:17] <silvertip257> david83 yes /dev/hde1p2 is a swap partion
[06:17] <david83> silvertip257, yeah post the link for the tutorial you used that is a great idea
[06:17] <silvertip257> *partition
[06:17] <jooozek> the strange thing is, that it doesn't stays in conflict with any module
[06:18] <nobody_lv> flai: try sudo modprobe -r nvidia and then sudo modprobe nvidia
[06:18] <b03nto> <how to told gnome that pdf file is pdf file not octet-stream, so evince can open it> believe it or not, i just install xchm and suddenly evince able to open my pdf file again.. aint that weird..??
[06:18] <flai> nobody_lv: nvidia? or nvidia-agp ??
[06:18] <nobody_lv> nvidia
[06:18] <nobody_lv> at least I have nvidia
[06:18] <nobody_lv> on both my systems
[06:18] <Mewshi> can i format my linux partition as ntfs during the install???
[06:18] <silvertip257> david83 this is the link about partioning http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/fdisk_partitioning.html
[06:18] <charlie5_zzz> ugh ... is cmos hard to re-install ... i cleared cmos, and now get a cmos checksum error
[06:18] <nobody_lv> Mewshi: arghh :D Have drink and install windows :D
[06:19] <Mewshi> I can't
[06:19] <flai> nobody_lv: sudo modprobe  nvidia  ---- >   Not loading nvidia module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:19] <Mewshi> i've already installedl inux
[06:19] <Mewshi> but i want to make that partition readable under windows
[06:19] <nobody_lv> flai: put nvidia instead of nv
[06:19] <binary_goofy> hi room! what is the default password for CVS?
[06:19] <Outrunner> hey ppl
[06:19] <peter_> hallo...kennt vieleicht einer von euch eine seite im netz wo man spiel fr ubuntu bekommt??
[06:19] <david83> !de
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[06:19] <flai> nobody_lv:  i'm running X now, no prob?
[06:20] <nobody_lv> ok
[06:20] <silvertip257> david83 i used part *5.2*
[06:20] <jooozek> !help
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[06:20] <charlie5_zzz> binary_goofy: just <return> is its anon cvs
[06:20] <FnuggleMaster> Repos without adding public keys... do they work? Just not authenticated
[06:20] <Outrunner> err... i installed cvs cedega
[06:20] <nobody_lv> but you will have problems with games, because nv have no glx
[06:20] <Outrunner> and im having problems emulating games there
[06:20] <nobody_lv> Mewshi: you can acess from windows ext and reiserfs systems
[06:20] <Outrunner> i allways have problemas with libuser32.so
[06:20] <flai> nobody_lv: module loaded sucessfully
[06:21] <nobody_lv> use total commander with ext2win plugin
[06:21] <nobody_lv> flai: cool :)
[06:21] <flai> nobody_lv:  no ... but the problem is when i try to restart
[06:21] <jooozek> btw
[06:21] <jasper> has someone experience with webmin / ssh installation?
[06:21] <nobody_lv> flai: what problem?
[06:21] <binary_goofy> charlie: am tryin to install the script patch for directx on wine. it checks out CVS as part of the installation, then pops up the password option. tried blank, but doesn't accept it.
[06:21] <jooozek> there is a driver for windows
[06:21] <silent_scream> i have 2 logiteck joysticks. but jscalibrator recognize only the one. is there any way to calibrate the other?
[06:22] <silent_scream> the one is in /dev/input/js0 and the other in /dev/input/js1 . but jscalibrator recognize them as the same
[06:22] <silvertip257> david83 what do u think about that tutorial?
[06:22] <jooozek> it mounts any ext2 and ext3 partition
[06:22] <Materazzi> !ls
[06:22] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:22] <flai> nobody_lv:  now, i'm going to restart X ... it will be a blank screen
[06:22] <jooozek> as native partitions
[06:22] <Materazzi> !ln
[06:22] <jooozek> pretty cool
[06:22] <Dr_willis> jooozek,  yes.. i use it all the time. :P
[06:22] <nobody_lv> flai: and no errors?
[06:22] <b03nto> but still i should change the extension from pdf to PDF to make evince open it..
[06:22] <flai> nop
[06:22] <nobody_lv> that can't be
[06:22] <jooozek> Dr_willis: i don't, cause i did quit with windows, muhaha! ;)
[06:22] <flai> nobody_lv: going to check X.log
[06:22] <charlie5_zzz> binary_goofy: sorry, i don't know then
[06:23] <nobody_lv> flai: try to stop gdm and login from terminal... And then run startx
[06:23] <binary_goofy> charlie: thanks anyways.
[06:23] <david83> silvertip257, did you excute the w (write) command for your partitions?
[06:23] <nobody_lv> flai: you know how to stop gdm?
[06:23] <flai> nobody_lv: yes i know
[06:23] <Outrunner> anyone can help with cvs cedega?
[06:23] <binary_goofy> can somebody pls help me with installing the script patch for running directx on wine?
[06:23] <silvertip257> david83 yes of course i did
[06:23] <nobody_lv> cool :D
[06:24] <silvertip257> hence the reason it shows up when i use "p"
[06:24] <flai> nobody_lv: the prob is the X log is only about the current session
[06:24] <david83> silvertip257, i miss the connection to dsl an why to choose 4 partitions but alright
[06:24] <flai> nobody_lv: so i cant see the probs in the failed sessions
[06:24] <b03nto> anyone have a good reading about changing mime-type ?
[06:24] <nobody_lv> flai: use irssi - than you can chat from terminal :D
[06:24] <silvertip257> david83, i had no idea how to do crap, so if u know how i can do it correctly or w/e then plz tell me
[06:24] <Materazzi> hi i want my /home/{user}/prog/google-earth/googleearth binary to be work from anywhere
[06:24] <david83> b03nto, reinstall adobe reader??
[06:25] <flai> nobody_lv: ok ... will try that
[06:25] <silvertip257> david83 i had trouble figuring out what 2 do
[06:25] <Materazzi> hi i want my /home/{user}/prog/google-earth/googleearth binary to be *able to* work from anywhere
[06:25] <sonium> I wan't to serve a database of files to a group or individuals. I need secured transfer and authentication. And at it's best no additional software on the client side. I think the best is a httpd with SSL. But what would you use for authentication and uploading?
[06:25] <david83> silvertip257, that the way to learn :)
[06:25] <Dr_willis> Materazzi,  you mean useable by all users?
[06:25] <binary_goofy> can somebody pls help me with installing the script patch for running directx on wine?
[06:25] <Materazzi> no just me
[06:25] <b03nto> david83: its all work well now with evince, i just have to install xchm (i know its not make anysense), to make it work..
[06:25] <nobody_lv> the problem is, that I need to go :D I'll be in toch maybe only in 3 hours
[06:25] <nobody_lv> :/
[06:25] <nobody_lv> ok - I'm off
[06:25] <silvertip257> david83 that is true, you're my teacher now ... k ?
[06:26] <Materazzi> Dr_willis, i mean that i can run it from anywhere
[06:26] <sminons> Add the filename to your path Materazzi
[06:26] <huXfluX> Hello all! QUICK QUESTION: Is there another file (EXCEPT /etc/rc.d/rc.local) in what i can add line by line, programs to be ran at Linux boot time ?
[06:26] <Dr_willis> Materazzi,  normal procedure is to make a bin directory and make a link from that binary to the /bin/whatever name
[06:26] <Materazzi> dont i sudo ln -s ?
[06:26] <b03nto> huxflux:/etc/rc.local
[06:26] <Dr_willis> Materazzi,  i was thinkikng googleearth did that when installed
[06:26] <segfault> huXfluX, u can run anything at boot by adding it to ur runlevel
[06:26] <Materazzi> Dr_willis, it doesnt
[06:26] <binary_goofy> can somebody pls help me with installing the script patch for running directx on wine?
[06:26] <huXfluX> b03nto lol, that's a shortcut
[06:27] <david83> silvertip257, in an other tutorial it says that after partitioning you should reboot with the live-CD so try a reboot and check what your hde looks like
[06:27] <Dr_willis> Materazzi,  no need to sudo for a user stuff like that
[06:27] <segfault> binary_goofy, read the directions if it doesnt give the cvs passwd maybe u not allowed to check out from there
[06:27] <visik7> is there a nasdaq code for canonical ?
[06:27] <noriega> is anyone here using pptp-linux for VPN connections?
[06:27] <silvertip257> david83 ok, maybe i'll get on this channel on my other comp then idk
[06:27] <Materazzi> Dr_willis, yeah but where do i link it to?
[06:27] <Materazzi> Dr_willis, i tried /usr/bin
[06:27] <silvertip257> david83 hopefully i'll brb
[06:27] <david83> silvertip257, are you online with the live-cd?
[06:27] <b03nto> huxflux, nope the shortcut is /etc/rc.d/rc.local
[06:27] <b03nto> lol
[06:27] <silvertip257> david83 yah
[06:27] <Dr_willis> Materazzi,  the USERS /home/username/bin directory
[06:28] <david83> silvertip257, ok then skip this :)
[06:28] <silvertip257> david83 what?
[06:28] <Dr_willis> Materazzi  - whern i installed googleearth it asked/put that link in theer.. i allready had ~/bin  created
[06:28] <b03nto> huxflux, wait a minute, i dont have /etc/rc.d/rc.local...
[06:28] <segfault> sonium, if they are *nix clients ssh will do that for u
[06:28] <david83> silvertip257, stay in this channel i mean
[06:28] <Materazzi> Dr_willis, in dapper ~/bin does not exist
[06:29] <silvertip257> david83 ok
[06:29] <david83> silvertip257, don't reboot
[06:29] <binary_goofy> segfault: the script was put on the winehq, its automatically trying to contact :pserver:cvs@cvs.winehq.com:2401/home/wine.
[06:29] <xUnaBx> Dr_willis :  i've seen that there is a "terminal" option in grub, do you know if this could solve my issue?
[06:29] <jasper> can someone help me with installing openssh cause while typing **apt-get install openssh-server** it needs a lot of extra packages
[06:29] <silvertip257> david83 gotcha pt lol
[06:29] <paul0> paulo@foo:~$ glxgears
[06:29] <paul0> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x23
[06:29] <paul0> anyone already had this problem?
[06:29] <Dr_willis> xUnaBx,  i thought that was for using a serial terminal
[06:29] <sonium> segfault: the clients will mainly be windows based
[06:29] <segfault> jasper, so install them
[06:30] <segfault> sonium, :( oh well, winscp is free
[06:30] <lnx^> hoi fellahs
[06:30] <lnx^> i have a media server that's online 24/7
[06:30] <jasper> yes first there are a lot, and i had the same thing to with webmin, but somehow someone gave me a command and it installed inmediatly without manually installing those packages..
[06:30] <lnx^> right now i use azureus for torrents (yeah, only for sharing ubuntu)
[06:30] <sonium> segfault: yes I know, that would be the best, but the condition was "no additional software"
[06:30] <lnx^> is there any web-only client that i could use for managing torrents?
[06:31] <david83> silvertip257, try to monitor your hde disk with "cfdisk /dev/hde"
[06:31] <segfault> sonium, hmm, looks like for uploads ur left with sftp
[06:31] <lnx^> i.e. some server backend software (non-gui) which can be connected to a php/perl parser (which is publicly available)
[06:32] <xUnaBx> Dr_willis : i was afraid of that... but i'm clueless now, i really dont know where to look at
[06:32] <sonium> segfault: http also supports upload. So I think a html based upload application should do the task
[06:32] <Dr_willis> xUnaBx,  could try lilo. *ghasp* or google for others . or check the online grub manuals/docs :)
[06:32] <segfault> jasper, use apt-get
[06:33] <segfault> sonium, yeah just slightly more work for u
[06:33] <david83> silvertip257, are you there? what are you doing?
[06:33] <xUnaBx> Dr_willis : lilo?? oh god no... and after all the box is running just fine... it's just that it annoys me not to understand why it's not working
[06:33] <Patrick_> urlsnarf doesn't detect anything. I'm trying to determine the direct download path for a flash video, but normal web requests etc aren't being picked up either. No, I'm not running via an ssh proxy. No, I've flushed the firefox cache.
[06:33] <jmcstev> Hi all
[06:33] <david83> hi
[06:33] <agent> where do i file bugs for edgy? launchpad is empty and has 0 edgy bugs!
[06:34] <commarla> 
[06:34] <Dr_willis> xUnaBx,  heh - i got a pc that the Keybopard works in bios. but not grub.. then works in linux... :P
[06:34] <Patrick_> tcpdump is fine, with great scrolling reams of web requests. urlsnarf? empty.
[06:34] <sonium> agent: there is a wiki entry about that
[06:34] <Patrick_> Dr_willis: perhaps the ps/2 ports are the wrong way around
[06:34] <segfault> agent, read the release announce for it iirc it is mentioned there
[06:34] <jrib> agent: file bugs at launchpad, just include that it exists in edgy (launchpad bugs aren't really organized by release)
[06:34] <Dr_willis> Patrick_,  its usb. :P and if i enable usb legacy - the system dont boot windows or linux corectly...
[06:34] <agent> hrm... it mentions to file in launchpad but launchpad is empty of bugs ofr edgy
[06:35] <Patrick_> ah, never mind then
[06:35] <Dr_willis> Patrick_,  so i am using an Old HEAVY ibm keyboard on the system
[06:35] <agent> jrib thanks!
[06:35] <Patrick_> Dr_willis: those are the best kind!
[06:35] <Patrick_> big and clunky
[06:35] <Dr_willis> Patrick_,   :) goodwill $3
[06:35] <jmcstev> Could someone point me to some useful resource on deploying automatic installations of ubuntu dapper? need to install on a laboratory all at once, can anyone give me some info, advise, resource?
[06:35] <Patrick_> sweet.
[06:35] <hollaback83> any support groups in boston usa
[06:35] <silvertip257> david83 sorry --- phone call
[06:36] <Patrick_> this is more suited to the forums, anyway
[06:36] <david83> silvertip257, no problem just scared you mess up your system :)
[06:36] <silvertip257> david83 ah
[06:36] <david83> silvertip257, try to monitor your hde disk with "cfdisk /dev/hde"
[06:37] <silvertip257> david83 cfdisk give a fatal error in the terminal
[06:37] <hollaback83> does the yahoo messenger that comes with ubuntu come with yahoo voice
[06:37] <silvertip257> david83 wait sudo cfdisk /dev/hde
[06:37] <silvertip257> david83 that works
[06:37] <david83> silvertip257, how did you partitioned then?
[06:37] <xUnaBx> Dr_willis : that's even more frightening... :)
[06:37] <david83> silvertip257, a
[06:38] <silvertip257> david83 i used sudo format
[06:38] <xUnaBx> Dr_willis : but it should be some refresh issue, as the vsync option in the kernel solved the console problem. I'm sure it's something with the default refresh rate used by grub... i'll give a try on a grub mailing list, if there is any...
[06:39] <CowB0y> lo there
[06:39] <CowB0y> hows people ?
[06:39] <CowB0y> dead by the looks of it
[06:39] <CowB0y> :)
[06:40] <david83> no
[06:40] <jmcstev> could someone help me with information about automatic installation of ubuntu dapper on several machines at once?
[06:40] <CowB0y> can someone field a samba question on ubuntu
[06:40] <flai> nobody_lv: nop
[06:40] <david83> !ask
[06:40] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:40] <CowB0y> cool
[06:40] <agent> !spam
[06:40] <agent> :(
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:40] <flai> nobody_lv: must be an error in edgy
[06:41] <CowB0y> I need to upload a 4 gb backup to my window2k3 server
[06:41] <silvertip257> david83 i've got the cfdisk util runnin & i'm writing 2 the disk the partitions
[06:41] <david83> jmcstev sorry no idea maybe network installation and a good script?
[06:41] <flai> nobody_lv: this is a daily build from yesterday
[06:41] <CowB0y> is samba the best option ?
[06:41] <n3kl> Hi
[06:41] <n3kl> which is better, debian or ubuntu?
[06:41] <CowB0y> fedora
[06:42] <agent> !distribution
[06:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about distribution - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <jmcstev> is there any way to deploy using FAI?
[06:42] <david83> silvertip257, how many partitions ? i thought it would be good to just have 2 and maybe some free space for later management or something like that
[06:42] <der0b> n3kl: nobody can answer that for you.  Just try them both
[06:42] <silvertip257> david83 it only showed one partition for some reason
[06:42] <silvertip257> david83 i redid it w/ the cfdisk util
[06:43] <silvertip257> david83 now it might b ready 2 install on the drive
[06:43] <david83> n3kl, ubuntu easy debian difficult but much more in server things
[06:43] <greatcaffeine> Does anyone know how to get WPA working in Ubuntu?
[06:43] <agent> after dist-upgrade to edgy, does anyone have imake & makedepend listed as local/obsolete but cannot remove them since they depend on a bunch of critical packages?
[06:43] <facuco> ollaaaaaaa
[06:43] <jrib> agent: #ubuntu+1 for edgy
[06:43] <flai> does anyone have probs with a blank screen with nvidia drivers??
[06:43] <jrib> !es
[06:43] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:43] <agent> jrib: okay, thank you
[06:44] <jrib> ubotu: tell greatcaffeine about wpa
[06:44] <ikaruga2099> obotu: nvidia video out
[06:44] <CowB0y> think I'll go back to Fedora it sucks less
[06:44] <silvertip257> david83 should i use Frugal install ???
[06:44] <ikaruga2099> ubotu: nvideo video out
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvideo video out - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <n3kl> david83: I just loaded the live cd of kubuntu and it seemed to recognize my hardware really nicely.  I just wonder if it is as stable as other distros because of how user frendly it is.
[06:44] <david83> silvertip257, what is that Frugal install?
[06:44] <ikaruga2099> does anyone know how to get video out working with an nvidia card?
[06:45] <silvertip257> david83 an option i c under Apps>Tools
[06:45] <juhan> hi there, i'm having problems with sound on edgy. i try to play audio files with differnt programs and it works for a hile until it stops. i have no idea where the problem is. Has anyone got a clue how to solve it?
[06:45] <david83> silvertip257, is there an option for hdinstall too?
[06:45] <david83>  :D
[06:45] <jrib> ikaruga2099: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOut
[06:46] <ikaruga2099> thanks jrib!
[06:46] <silvertip257> david83 it says install 2 hard drive but when i click it it does nothing, just flashes a terminal window i think...
[06:46] <t888> hi. i don`t have sound and can`t change screen resolution
[06:46] <n3kl> ikaruga2099: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log to find the poer that you are detecting, then you should be able to find a twinview tutorial or something and edit you xor.confaccordingly
[06:47] <xrothgarx> I am trying to load new nvidia drivers (8774) and I exited the X session but when I run the install it says there is still a Nvidia driver loaded, how do I unload that driver so I can load the new one?
[06:47] <huXfluX> ba sa-mi bag pula in mortii vostrii
[06:47] <FnuggleMaster> Automatix vs EasyUbuntu?
[06:47] <huXfluX> de americani prosti
[06:48] <huXfluX> luamiati pula'n cur lesinatilor
[06:48] <n3kl> xrothgarx: try lsmod
[06:48] <huXfluX> muie
[06:48] <Zaggynl> FnuggleMaster, EasyUbuntu claims to be more safe, I just use apt-get or Synaptic
[06:48] <Materazzi> how can i make a binary executable from anywhere using "ln"?
[06:48] <jrib> !ro
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <huXfluX> haha
[06:48] <Materazzi> !ln
[06:48] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:48] <gandolfthewizard> hi all
[06:48] <silvertip257> david83, i'm stuck - idk where 2 go w/ this now
[06:48] <Admiral_Chicago> !is
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <huXfluX> !ro
[06:48] <gandolfthewizard> looking for some help in installing the java runtime
[06:48] <Admiral_Chicago> !it > huXfluX
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe
[06:48] <FnuggleMaster> Zaggynl: Thanks
[06:48] <huXfluX> ce pula mea
[06:48] <n3kl> is ubuntu as stable as debain or other distros
[06:48] <n3kl> ?
[06:48] <Renan_s2> n3kl, it should be
[06:49] <huXfluX> FUtuti MORTII MATII ba labagiule cu botii tai cu tot
[06:49] <Zaggynl> np
[06:49] <huXfluX> bagamias pula'n mata
[06:49] <huXfluX> haha
[06:49] <jrib> huXfluX: romania?  /join #ubuntu-ro
[06:49] <xrothgarx> n3kl: I ran lsmod but what do I do with that info?
[06:49] <david83> silvertip257, so you have 2 partitions?
[06:49] <silvertip257> david83 yes 2 partitions
[06:49] <xav> some people find debian to be more stable
[06:49] <n3kl> xrothgarx: is there an nv or nvidia driver listed in there
[06:50] <der0b> materazzi: ln doesn't make a binary executable, ln creates a link.  to create a symlink enter ln -s source destination (of course change the source to be the file you want to link to and destination should be the name of the link)
[06:50] <david83> silvertip257, and you got the first one as a boot partition and the second one as a swap partition?
[06:50] <xrothgarx> n3kl: it says Module = nvidia size=3916924 used by=10
[06:50] <silvertip257> david83 2nd one is swap, the first is #83 i think that's set for booting, i'll check if i messed that up
[06:50] <Materazzi> der0b, i did " ln -s prog/google-earth/googleearth /usr/bin/" but no success
[06:51] <der0b> materazzi: what exactly happened?
[06:51] <gandolfthewizard> i am looking to install the java runtime environment so that i can play games on java and chat but have not been able to get it to install
[06:51] <der0b> materazzi: to create a link in /usr/bin/ you need to enter sudo before the command
[06:51] <jrib> ubotu: tell gandolfthewizard about java
[06:51] <printk> MetaMorfoziS: you probably need to do ln -s prog/google-earth/googleearth /usr/bin/googleearth and use sudo
[06:51] <Materazzi> der0b, i did
[06:51] <david83> silvertip257, sounds good i guess 83 is ext2 or ext3 ok then hit the w write to disk command and see for the rest
[06:51] <MetaMorfoziS> why?:)
[06:52] <cello_rasp> who is lilo
[06:52] <n3kl> xrothgarx: try rmmod nvidia
[06:52] <silvertip257> david83 do i want Linux extended (85) or Linux (83) and (i have Linux swap [82[)
[06:52] <printk> MetaMorfoziS: because what you did says you try to link googlearth to /usr/bin the directory not to /usr/bin/googleearth
[06:52] <Materazzi> der0b, i did " sudo ln -fs prog/google-earth/googleearth /usr/bin/googleearth "
[06:52] <xrothgarx> n3kl: haha, it says it is in use
[06:52] <tzontzon> j/ubuntu-ro
[06:52] <silvertip257> david83 ok done
[06:52] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm dont said anything for hours
[06:52] <Materazzi> no success
[06:52] <n3kl> xrothgarx: pgrep X
[06:53] <tzontzon> j/#ubuntu-ro
[06:53] <printk> MetaMorfoziS: erm orry that was for Materazzi
[06:53] <MetaMorfoziS> ;)
[06:53] <xrothgarx> n3kl: 5060
[06:53] <MetaMorfoziS> np
[06:53] <n3kl> kill -9 5060
[06:53] <n3kl> xrothgarx:
[06:53] <printk> Materazzi: you did ln -s /path/to/googleearth /usr/bin/googleearth ?
[06:53] <Materazzi> printk, goo + tab doesnt turn into googleearth
[06:53] <n3kl> xrothgarx: rmmod nvidia
[06:53] <silvertip257> david83 partition table is saved/written to disk
[06:53] <Materazzi> printk,  i did " sudo ln -fs prog/google-earth/googleearth /usr/bin/googleearth "
[06:53] <silvertip257> *drive
[06:54] <david83> silvertip257, ok
[06:54] <der0b> so materazzi, did you get an error?  what does ls -la prog/google-earth/googleearth tell you?
[06:54] <xrothgarx> n3kl: after the kill it brought me to a login screen
[06:54] <printk> Materazzi: and what does ls -l /usr/bin/googleearth say?
[06:54] <Materazzi> der0b, it lists the binary
[06:54] <n3kl> xrothgarx: /etc/init.d/xdm stop
[06:54] <n3kl> xrothgarx: or gdm or kdm or whatever the hell it is you use for a login manager
[06:55] <der0b> materazzi: show me exactly, I'm trying to verify that the binary is +x
[06:55] <Materazzi> printk, rlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 2006-10-06 18:58 /usr/bin/googleearth -> prog/google-earth/googleearth
[06:55] <silvertip257> david83 how do i get that hdinstall thing/script to work & finish this ?
[06:55] <flasher> a webmaster of a site is asking for my help. he asked me to run a tracert for him. how do i do so?
[06:55] <n3kl> Materazzi: thats a link
[06:55] <printk> Materazzi: there's the prob i think... is the directory prog in /usr/bin?  i.e. /usr/bin/prog/google-earth ?
[06:55] <der0b> materazzi: /usr/bin/googleearth is alreadya link
[06:55] <Megaqwerty> does anyone know of a good flowcharting program?
[06:55] <n3kl> Materazzi: and your path is not absolute
[06:56] <Materazzi> printk, der0b i got it!!
[06:56] <Materazzi> exactly
[06:56] <Materazzi> now i made absolute
[06:56] <Materazzi> !!
[06:56] <david83> silvertip257, try locate dsl-hdinstall
[06:56] <printk> yah use the full absolute path and you should be good
[06:56] <Megaqwerty> anyone
[06:56] <silvertip257> david83 locate it through what? (sorry i'm very new)
[06:56] <Materazzi> that's a bug in ln though i assumed it would have deduced the full path
[06:56] <der0b> enjoy your earthing materazzi
[06:56] <bilss_> hi
[06:56] <Materazzi> tnx
[06:56] <printk> Materazzi: nope, how can ln read your mind?
[06:57] <pike_> Megaqwerty: kivio ?
[06:57] <david83> silvertip257, try "locate dsl-hdinstall"
[06:57] <printk> Materazzi: it does what you tell it :)
[06:57] <bilss_> how to open a small .gz file
[06:57] <silvertip257> oh ok david83
[06:57] <gandolfthewizard> can someone help please
[06:57] <flasher> i think tracert is for windows. what is the ubuntu equivalent of tracert?
[06:57] <printk> blithe: gunzip to uncompress, to cat it you can use zcat file.gz | less
[06:57] <Megaqwerty> pike_: Thanks
[06:57] <xrothgarx> n3kl: THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! it looks like it is going through now
[06:57] <t888> question: hi. i don`t have sound
[06:57] <silvertip257> david83 it says locate command not found
[06:57] <xrothgarx> :)
[06:57] <der0b> bilss_: tar -xvzf file.gz
[06:57] <blithe> No thanks. :P
[06:57] <printk> bilss_: gunzip to uncompress, to cat it you can use zcat file.gz | less
[06:58] <Materazzi> yeah but if i put in a relative path (without the / prefix) it should add the "pwd" to it!!
[06:58] <s989s> hiya - is anyone else having problems upgrading gconf2-common?
[06:58] <david83> silvertip257, try "find -name dsl-hdinstall /"
[06:58] <printk> blithe: lol i'm sucking with my nick auto completition today :) sorry wrong person
[06:58] <xav> printk, zless
[06:58] <n3kl> xrothgarx: a login manager will respawn X when it dies, so it you log out, it will bring you to a login again and your driver will still be in use'
[06:58] <xav> omg
[06:58] <blithe> No worries.
[06:58] <xav> xchat completion sucks so hard
[06:58] <Materazzi> anyway tnx
[06:58] <silvertip257> ty david83 will do
[06:58] <xav> I'm so used to irssi
[06:58] <printk> Materazzi: some people want to use it as you said.  i.e. a top-level directory above the one that you put the link in.  that's why
[06:58] <bilss_> pritk: ok thanks zcat new to me thanks
[06:58] <silvertip257> david83 all it did was drop the prompt down 2 the next line
[06:58] <xrothgarx> n3kl: it looks like it installed so I am restarting (just cause I don't know how to start everything manually
[06:58] <david83> silvertip257, try "find / -name dsl-hdinstall" like this sorry
[06:58] <printk> xav: ah never knew about zless :P
[06:59] <s989s> Setting up gconf2-common (2.16.0-0ubuntu1) ...
[06:59] <s989s> Can't call method "description" on an undefined value at /usr/share/perl5/Debcon
[06:59] <silvertip257> ok np david83
[06:59] <bilss_> printk new to me sorry
[06:59] <david83> ;)
[06:59] <david83> silvertip257, did you just called me a newbie = np?
[06:59] <silvertip257> david83:  no such file or directory
[06:59] <xav> printk, I think zcat or bzcat are more used though
[06:59] <xav> like for patching
[06:59] <silvertip257> no david83 np for me = no problem
[07:00] <Materazzi> printk, u mean above /usr/bin in my case? ok it makes sense
[07:00] <printk> xav: yah probably can't use zless for much more than user reading :)
[07:00] <SdobSiSdub> how get my ip in shell
[07:00] <supergirl> KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
[07:00] <printk> Materazzi: yah exactly like if the directory prog actually existed in /usr/bin... then that link would have been correct.
[07:00] <b03nto> SdobSiSdub:ifconfig
[07:00] <SdobSiSdub> thx
[07:00] <s989s> nice to know that this is the place to come for help
[07:00] <silvertip257> well david83, it says it cant find the file
[07:00] <david83> silvertip257, ok but that's bad that it can't find that script
[07:01] <silvertip257> david83 yah i know that it's bad ugh
[07:01] <s989s> do any of you know anything?
[07:01] <t888> question: what to do to have sound?
[07:02] <s989s> t888 I don't know mate
[07:02] <david83> silvertip257, ok try the find command again but with a sudo before so you have the right permissions
[07:02] <coder_> how can I flush dns cashe?
[07:02] <silvertip257> david83 this page says abt the sudo -u  root ...etc; http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/dsl-hd-install.html
[07:02] <david83> silvertip257, bye the way what dsl-release do you got?
[07:02] <silvertip257> david83 i've got 3.0.1
[07:03] <iratik> Arghh - I can't find anywhere else to ask, hylafax/sendfax ? Anyone know anything about it?
[07:03] <s989s> nope - know nothing
[07:03] <s989s> Setting up gconf2-common (2.16.0-0ubuntu1) ...
[07:03] <s989s> Can't call method "description" on an undefined value at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Question.pm line 93, <GEN0> line 1.
[07:03] <s989s> any ideas?
[07:03] <t888> question: i had sound on dapper, but i don`t have on edgy beta (also on madriva 2007). what`s wrong?
[07:03] <clearzen> Can I get info on beryl in this channel?
[07:04] <clearzen> or compiz whatever you want to call it
[07:04] <iratik> ahh compiz, i tried installing that
[07:04] <iratik> that was awesome
[07:04] <iratik> l8r
[07:04] <rod> hi, i want to have nvidia drivers installed on edgy. I installed nvidia-glx and the linux restricted kernel modules. When I do a nvidia-glx-config enable i get Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[07:04] <rod> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[07:05] <rod> its a great up2date edgy so i dont understand
[07:05] <clearzen> I've got beryl installed the beryl manager but it won't load themes
[07:05] <LivingCooler> Hello, can I boot from Ubunto live CD and use rsync to backup from the disk to an 'ftp' server?
[07:05] <bina> hi, is it possible to make my computer use the sun java rather than gij?  I have both sun-java5-sdk and jre installed but still gij is being used
[07:05] <clearzen> sorry I've got the beryl manager installed but it won't load the themes
[07:05] <LivingCooler> sorry (sp) Ubuntu
[07:05] <s989s> cheers
[07:05] <kmaynard> LivingCooler, i find that knoppix tends to be better for that
[07:05] <jrib> ubotu: tell bina about multijava
[07:05] <Distro^Junkie> anyone have any luck with the ati installer ?
[07:05] <Materazzi> where do i get a list of characters available by typing "alt-gr anykey"
[07:06] <Materazzi> !character
[07:06] <bina> jrib: thanks
[07:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about character - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:06] <Materazzi> !java
[07:06] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:06] <kmaynard> !multijava > bina
[07:06] <silvertip257> david83 do u have any idea what's nxt ?
[07:06] <frolle> Everytime i open a movie in "Movieplayer" it just closes down again, how come?
[07:06] <b0ef> for some reason it's impossible to set escape key for screen to use q, as in "escape ^Qq"; it works once, then it's not responding, but other keys work fine
[07:06] <Milkyy> Hello, I'm thinking of buying a soundcard, namely Creative SB Audigy SE. Will it work with Ubuntu? And furthermore, will it enable me to for instance use VOIP and play DoD via wine using OSS (hardware mixing?)?
[07:06] <Materazzi> how do i play wmv10 or 11?
[07:07] <kmaynard> Materazzi, install codecs from automatix
[07:07] <Materazzi> niether mplayer not vlc succeed
[07:07] <jrib> Materazzi: have you installed w32codecs?
[07:07] <Materazzi> kmaynard, w32codecs?
[07:07] <pike_> Milkyy: short answer  yes
[07:07] <Materazzi> jrib, yes
[07:07] <kmaynard> yah
[07:07] <sidny4> I have dual monitors on an nvidia geforce 7600 GS, Usint twinview they both work but they're backwards, how do I switch them around?
[07:07] <coder_> I need to flush dns cache.  How?
[07:07] <kmaynard> backwards?
[07:07] <david83> silvertip257, we got to search for an other script as there is no dsl-hdinstall
[07:07] <b03nto> bina:sudo update-alternatives --config java
[07:08] <Milkyy> pike_, okey, and the long answer? :)
[07:08] <silvertip257> david83 ok...u tell me what to do b/c i'm lossssssssst
[07:08] <pike_> Milkyy: yyyyeeeessss
[07:08] <kmaynard> like illegible backwards or left/right backwards?
[07:08] <Milkyy> Ok :P thanks ;)
[07:08] <kmaynard> im lazy, i would move my monitors
[07:08] <bina> kmaynard b03nto: nice thanks
[07:08] <kmaynard> or switch the connections
[07:09] <sidny4> left/right backwards
[07:09] <LivingCooler> Hello, can I boot from Ubunto live CD and use rsync to backup from the disk to an 'ftp' server?
[07:09] <gato> hola
[07:09] <sidny4> I was wondering if there was some setting to change or if I had to switch connections
[07:09] <b03nto> bina:kmaynard ?
[07:09] <kmaynard> LivingCooler, it may be possible, but you may find it easier to do with knoppix...it's built for that kinda work
[07:09] <pike_> LivingCooler: you want to connect to a ftp server and backup certain mounted dir automatically?
[07:10] <kmaynard> b03nto, yo
[07:10] <clearzen> Does anyone know what this compiz/beryl error means? ** (beryl-manager:5112): WARNING **: Couldn't find a Selection Owner, perhaps no WM running?
[07:10] <b03nto> kmaynard:sorry typo..
[07:10] <kmaynard> np
[07:11] <bina> b03nto: kmaynard also replied
[07:11] <LivingCooler> kmaynard: thank you
[07:11] <frolle> Everytime i open a movie in "Movieplayer" it just closes down again, how come? Do i need some kind of codec?
[07:11] <LivingCooler> pike_: thank you
[07:12] <Distro^Junkie> brb
[07:12] <LivingCooler> kmaynard, pike_: Is it 'possible' to backup to an FTP server with just the rsync 'client' ?
[07:12] <david83> silvertip257, try "find / -name *install*" like this sorry
[07:12] <silvertip257> ok doin that david83
[07:13] <kmaynard> LivingCooler, never tried it
[07:13] <h36sa_> how can I configure an awe64 isa card? ubuntu detects it but it doesn't show up and alsa doesn't recognize it
[07:13] <pike_> LivingCooler: its easy to make a script for something like that with just ftp
[07:13] <pike_> LivingCooler: i could probably pastebin something
[07:13] <silvertip257> david83:  it says no such file or directory
[07:13] <b03nto> frolle: try totem-xine
[07:14] <LivingCooler> kmaynard, pike_: thanks again... I'm planing on automating via rsync to an ftp server but I'm not sure it's possible without a daemon.
[07:14] <malice> Does anyone know how to assoc skypecast to firefox?
[07:14] <LivingCooler> sorry, rsync daemon
[07:14] <kmaynard> LivingCooler, what are you running right now?
[07:14] <silvertip257> well david83 looks like i'm outta luck
[07:14] <malice> or how to assoc any program to firefox. I want fire fox to know what to open when I click on it
[07:15] <silvertip257> david83 if i give u an email can u send me anything u find???
[07:15] <silvertip257> i can understand if u dont wanna do that david83
[07:15] <voraistos> hello guys. i have a little very specific graphic related problem: i have a voodoo4 (yeah) and 2D seems fine. However glxgears seems a bit.... slow :) i installed libglide3 but cant find any info on that lib and how to use it. can u help ?
[07:15] <LivingCooler> kmaynard: testing ubunto in a virtual machine on Windows XP host, but I'm trying to get Windoze to use rsync to backup to an FTp server on the Win lan.
[07:16] <Materazzi> another GPL free graphics program http://www.xaraxtreme.org/
[07:16] <ArrenLex> vorais: what's the output of "glxinfo | grep dire"?
[07:16] <voraistos> ArrenLex. i try that and tell u
[07:16] <ArrenLex> vorais: and "glxinfo | grep renderer"
[07:16] <kmaynard> LivingCooler, you may want to look at unison...
[07:17] <kmaynard> it has a windows version too
[07:17] <david83> silvertip257, did the search didn't work?
[07:17] <kmaynard> !unison
[07:17] <ubotu> unison: A file-synchronization tool for Unix and Windows. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.13.16-4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 466 kB, installed size 1120 kB
[07:17] <silvertip257> david83 the search with *install* did not yield anything
[07:17] <david83> i can't find i can just try the dsl 3.0.3 myself :)
[07:17] <kmaynard> !unison > LivingCooler
[07:17] <Enselic> The first one to say Enselic wins a cookie (testing my Konversation notify sound)
[07:18] <david83> silvertip257, give me an email i will try it if i have time :)
[07:18] <LivingCooler> kmaynard: thank you, I've tried unison but it's a little flaky that's why I've gone back to good ole rsync
[07:18] <Ciaus> Enselic
[07:18] <voraistos> ArrenLex Mesa GLX indirect. i dont like this mesa stuff. would prefer 3DF inc. ;)
[07:18] <kmaynard> gotcha
[07:18] <AM> hi all, how can i remove the password request when the computer stays idle for a while?
[07:18] <david83> silvertip257, maybe monday or something like that
[07:18] <ArrenLex> voraistos: then you're using a driver for your card which doesn't support 3D acceleration.
[07:18] <kmaynard> AM, look in screensaver preferences
[07:18] <silvertip257> ok ty david83, i'll probably get on later tonight, b/c i've got stuff 2 do now
[07:18] <pike_> AM: or from terminal type xscreensaver-demo
[07:18] <silvertip257> david83 my email is silvertip257@gmail.com
[07:18] <AM> kmaynard, ok
[07:19] <LivingCooler> kmaynard: do you know if it is possible to rsync via client to an existing FTP server without a rsync server running?
[07:19] <kmaynard> LivingCooler, not a clue. my rsync-foo is weak
[07:19] <david83> ok
[07:19] <voraistos> ArrenLex: i should use the tdfx driver + use libglide3 to make 3D work with DRI. cant find anything interesting in man tdfx
[07:20] <david83> silvertip257, ok good luck have fun
[07:20] <ArrenLex> voraistos: you are certain that this driver will provide 3D capabilities? I know nothing of voodoo.
[07:20] <Materazzi> another GPL free graphics program http://www.xaraxtreme.org/
[07:20] <ArrenLex> Either the cards or the dark art. =P
[07:20] <AM> kmaynard, i remove the "lock screen" thing but it still does the same
[07:20] <silvertip257> haha ty david83 for all the help, my hopes are to get dsl on some older slower machines, just to practice using it
[07:20] <ArrenLex> Although that would be hella cool.
[07:20] <LivingCooler> kmaynard: thank you anyway... is there a channel that might be more specific to rsync or backup questions?
[07:21] <voraistos> ArrenLex: yes i am sure. but i cant find out how.
[07:21] <silvertip257> david83 granted this machine i'm using is not that old, but anyways; i'm trying to learn 2 use it on something ok to work w/ then the old stuff will not be so bad
[07:21] <Armas> Hey guys, quick question. What would make my computer create 3x 1.9gb log files?
[07:21] <david83> silvertip257, i have it installed on a usbstick so i thought this would work but the 3.0.3 is different i guess and a hdinstall too :)
[07:22] <Armas> kern.log, messages and syslog
[07:22] <silvertip257> iv'e got 3.0.*1*
[07:22] <ArrenLex> voraistos: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log or whatever the filename is. Your X log.
[07:22] <silvertip257> david83 i've got 3.0.1
[07:22] <voraistos> ArrenLex OK
[07:22] <Armas> I went from having just over 6gb free to 370mb in less than 10mins
[07:23] <AM> kmaynard, i remove the "lock screen" thing but it still does the same
[07:23] <david83> silvertip257, ok
[07:23] <silvertip257> later david83
[07:24] <Zaggynl> is there anything like treesize in ubuntu?
[07:24] <mart1> anybody has ideas about no sound at all with ubuntu dapper?
[07:24] <Zaggynl> (graphical representation of files/folder and which use up the most space)
[07:24] <AM> hi all, how can i remove the password request when the computer stays idle for a while?
[07:24] <pally> offtopic, anyone know when 6.10 official version come out?
[07:25] <mart1> (installed 3 times, and every one I get a mute ubuntu)
[07:25] <pike_> Zaggynl: what does it do?
[07:25] <ArrenLex> mart1: you are using alsa?
[07:25] <mart1> yes
[07:25] <Zaggynl> pike_, shows a graphical representation of files/folder and which use up the most space
[07:25] <ArrenLex> mart1: and your volume is on? xD
[07:25] <Renan_s2> Zaggynl, Konqueror has a feature like this. Don't know about GNOME, though.
[07:25] <mart1> and every module seems bo be well recognized
[07:25] <pally> offtopic, anyone know when 6.10 official version come out?
[07:25] <Zaggynl> Renan_s2, okay
[07:25] <Armas> mart1: I had a strange problem with permissions and sound
[07:25] <ArrenLex> Konqueror is life.
[07:25] <sm> morning all.. can I get gnome-terminal to recognize mouse click location ?
[07:25] <mart1> arrenlex of course the volume is on :)
[07:26] <Armas> mart1: creating a new user enabled sound for that user
[07:26] <mart1> really???
[07:26] <mart1> no sh...
[07:26] <pike_> Zaggynl: ive never gotten that fancy i normally just use du
[07:26] <ArrenLex> mart1: no "of course" about it; I've had three people come here with their sound problems in the past week for me to look at the logs and tell them the volume as off. =P
[07:26] <Armas> mart1: I think there is a post on the forums about it too
[07:26] <ArrenLex> mart1: pastebin the result of "amixer"
[07:26] <mart1> ok
[07:26] <Armas> mar1:  do you get the drum noise when the login prompt comes up?
[07:26] <Armas> mart1*
[07:27] <mart1> nothing
[07:27] <mart1> armas, nothing
[07:27] <mart1> arrenlex, I'll be kicked by flood :P
[07:27] <ArrenLex> mart1: pastebin
[07:27] <ArrenLex> !pastebin
[07:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:27] <ArrenLex> Basically you upload your text and then paste the link, and people see it online.
[07:28] <AM> hi all, how can i remove the password request when the computer stays idle for a while?
[07:28] <jazzrocker> ok, wtf gives... i just bought two 1G sticks of ram and my system is only showing 1G inside TOP
[07:28] <mart1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25819/
[07:28] <mart1> thanks ubotu :)
[07:28] <cello_rasp> does anyone know how to get Eterm -C  to work? i tried to setuid root the process but that didnt work
[07:29] <jazzrocker> when i had one 1G stick in there it told me i had 512M
[07:29] <mart1> arrenlex, armas, you'll tell me
[07:29] <jazzrocker> is that seriously how ram is reported? half size?
[07:29] <hijodelanoche> hello ^
[07:29] <mart1> but I suspect I have the problem of having the latest hards :S
[07:29] <macsim> Beagle works on xfs filesystem ?
[07:30] <hijodelanoche> i m a newbi in ubuntu, french and havec a question ...
[07:30] <hijodelanoche> and have
[07:30] <macsim> hijodelanoche: join #ubuntu-fr
[07:30] <AM> hi all, how can i remove the password request when the computer stays idle for a while?
[07:30] <hijodelanoche> !!!!!
[07:30] <hijodelanoche> thx macsim ^
[07:30] <mart1> AM why do you repeat :P
[07:30] <hijodelanoche> thx macsim ^_^
[07:30] <Zaggynl> pike_, thanks for the hint about du! kdirstat is a nice frontend for that
[07:31] <mart1> AM : system --> preferences --> screensaver
[07:31] <AM> lol mart1 sry i will not repeat again
[07:31] <mart1> ;)
[07:31] <ArrenLex> I don't know, mart1. amixer seems to be fine. If I give you a link to a .deb package, are you capable of extracting a file from it without installing it? dpkg -x?
[07:31] <AM> yeah a tried that but doesnt work
[07:31] <mart1> yes...
[07:31] <mart1> but I did try to install the deb stuff
[07:32] <AM> removed the 2 options there, the activate screensaver and the lock screen and nothing, it stills locks
[07:32] <Coir> I installed a 686 linux image via, but when I reboot and do a uname -r, I am still using the generic. How do I get Ubuntu to use the linux-image-686?
[07:32] <ArrenLex> mart1: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/alsa-utils/alsa-utils_1.0.12-1_i386.deb
[07:32] <Coir> via apt-get*
[07:32] <ArrenLex> mart1: extract this package. Find alsaconf (it's in usr/sbin). It's a shell script. Run it.
[07:32] <macsim> Coir: what the uname -r return ?
[07:32] <mart1> I'll see that arrenlex
[07:33] <Coir> macsim: 2.6.7-10-genric
[07:33] <Coir> generic, too
[07:33] <mart1> but I've found it impossible to install a similar deb on ubuntu :(
[07:33] <macsim> Coir: and what kernel did you installed ?
[07:33] <ArrenLex> mart1: a) impossible? b) don't install this deb.
[07:33] <Coir> macsim: 686, as the machine is a p3.
[07:33] <pulz0r> hello
[07:33] <ArrenLex> !hello
[07:33] <ubotu> hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (dapper), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB
[07:34] <ArrenLex> ...wait.
[07:34] <ArrenLex> !hi
[07:34] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:34] <ArrenLex> There we are.
[07:34] <pulz0r> :D
[07:34] <macsim> Coir: yes but the exact kernel name ? linux-image-2.6????
[07:34] <Coir> macsim: I got it from apt. How am I to know?
[07:34] <macsim> Coir: ok, you use dapper ?
[07:34] <Coir> macsim: It's linux-image-686, which I mentioned above.
[07:34] <ArrenLex> Coir: uname -a will tell you everything.
[07:35] <macsim> Coir: sudo aptitude install linux-image-2.6.15-27-686
 mart1: extract this package. Find alsaconf (it's in usr/sbin). It's a shell script. Run it. <--- you mean dpkg -i ?
[07:35] <pulz0r> can someone help me with my wireless device? It didnt work out-of-the-box so I figured i needed ndiswrapper. i installed it and loaded my windowsdriver but my card still wont work
[07:35] <pally> offtopic, anyone know when 6.10 official version come out?
[07:35] <Coir> macsim: couldn't find package
[07:35] <pulz0r> i got the ndiswrapper graphical front-end and it says there is no hardware detected for the driver
[07:35] <|chris3|> hello all
[07:35] <mart1> pulz0r I came through the same thing...
[07:36] <pulz0r> actually, 2 drivers
[07:36] <ArrenLex> mart1: no, I don't. I specifically said extract, not install.
[07:36] <mart1> ok arrenlex
[07:36] <david83_einkaufe> test
[07:36] <mart1> so dpkg -x ?
[07:36] <laf11540> Hi there! Never used IRC - This is new - in fact it looks very strange - can't make sense of it!!!
[07:36] <macsim> Coir: hum, you use dapper isn't it ?
[07:36] <|chris3|> grub has been eating my lunch for about a week is this the right place to ask questions about grub?
[07:36] <ArrenLex> mart1: save that file to /tmp. cd to /tmp and run "dpkg -x .deb alsautils/" , go cd alsautils, cd usr, cd sbin, and there will be alsaconf.
[07:37] <kmaynard> |chris3|, please explain
[07:37] <mart1> thanks arrenlex !!!
[07:37] <Coir> macsim: On Eft, actually. Perhaps that's it.
[07:37] <Coir> :-P
[07:37] <macsim> Coir: yes ...
[07:37] <pulz0r>  can someone help me with my wireless device? It didnt work out-of-the-box so I figured i needed ndiswrapper. i installed it and loaded my windowsdriver but my card still wont work
[07:37] <ArrenLex> chris: you can try?
[07:37] <macsim> Coir: I don't use this one I'm on dapper sorry
[07:37] <ArrenLex> mart1: then run the alsaconf script as sudo.
[07:37] <Coir> macsim: ty anyway
[07:38] <|chris3|> my hard drive died and I got a new one and did a drive image restore but my old HD had linux has hd0,3 and now it is hd0,0
[07:38] <|chris3|> when I boot up I get "GRUB Loading stage1.5read error"
[07:38] <|chris3|> I can boot from super grub CD
[07:38] <pike_> pulz0r: you might try sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[07:38] <|chris3|> and I have ran grub-install
[07:39] <|chris3|> and when into grub and ran root (hd0,0) and setup(hd0)
[07:39] <ProsperoMeridion> Hello. Has anyone upgraded to Dapper using the Desktop CD?
[07:39] <mart1> arrenlex, I don't hav alsaconf...
[07:39] <|chris3|> also I have fixed my fstab and menu.lst
[07:39] <|chris3|> still I get "GRUB Loading stage1.5read error"
[07:39] <|chris3|> any ideas?
[07:39] <mart1> it comes with 'asoundconf'
[07:39] <pulz0r> pike_: I already have the newest version :/
[07:39] <ghost__> hello, is there a (small) program for ubuntu where i could set up a timer/define a time when the pc should automatically shutdown? better, is already one integated?
[07:40] <rambo3> |chris3|, run grub from terminal
[07:40] <yip_> hi all, I have a problem regarding on fglrx driver. My card is a X1600 pro. Overall, I have everything working out. However, after I use "ctrl-alt-backspace" or "logout", once the X window loaded up. my fglrxinfo print that everything pointed to NULL. This probelm doesn't occur after i restart my machine
[07:40] <pulz0r> any other advice?
[07:40] <ArrenLex> mart1: no. asoundconf is in usr/bin. You need to go to usr/sbin.
[07:40] <ProsperoMeridion> Hello. Has anyone upgraded to Dapper using the Desktop CD?
[07:40] <|chris3|> rambo3: ok
[07:40] <UKMatt> I have a funny clipboard question, has anyone ever had to hit copy (using ctrl c) twice before it copies it?
[07:40] <ArrenLex> yip: ATI's drivers for linux are complete garbage. I think I've seen your bug somewhere. Have you googled?
[07:41] <rambo3> sud grub , then enter find /boot/grub/stage1
[07:41] <ArrenLex> ghost: ..cron?
[07:41] <mart1> arrenlex, shame on me :$
[07:41] <ghost__> hello, is there a (small) program for ubuntu where i could set up a timer/define a time when the pc should automatically shutdown? better, is already one integated?
[07:41] <ArrenLex> ghost: cron
[07:41] <ProsperoMeridion> Hello. Has anyone upgraded to Dapper using the Desktop CD?
[07:41] <pike_> ghost__: or the at command maybe
[07:42] <pulz0r> an ;x
[07:42] <ghost__> ok thanks
[07:43] <gnomefreak> ProsperoMeridion: i personally would use the alternate cd if you are gonna use a cd
[07:43] <yip_> oh yeah. i know ATI driver is garbage lol. I tried to build the 64bit driver on a 64bit dapper. it turns out more problem lol
[07:43] <|chris3|> rambo3: (hd0,0)
[07:44] <rambo3> ok type root (hd0,0)
[07:44] <yip_> so right now I am using 32bit dapper on my 64bit intel cpu
[07:44] <mart1> arrenlex, just for the records: ubuntu still mute
[07:44] <mart1> but thanks a lot!!!
[07:44] <ProsperoMeridion> gnomefreak: i am downloading it now. i have the desktop cd from mail but there are reports of problems. i wondered if anyone has suceeded with it.
[07:44] <mart1> I suspect it's a hard'problem
[07:44] <GUARDiAN|nb> hi
[07:44] <|chris3|> rambo3: file system type is ext2fs, partision type 0x83
[07:44] <pulz0r> can someone help me with my wireless device? It didnt work out-of-the-box so I figured i needed ndiswrapper. i installed it and loaded my windowsdriver but my card still wont work
[07:44] <w30>  ghost__ the shutdown command it's self has a time flag you can set for it to shutdown.
[07:45] <gnomefreak> ProsperoMeridion: if there is a doubt dont do it as upgrade and leave your system usless
[07:45] <ArrenLex> mart1: I don't know then. Google your card.
[07:45] <pike_> mart1: if you run amixer does everything look like its turned up/on?
[07:45] <rambo3> |chris3|, ok now type setup (hd0)
[07:45] <ProsperoMeridion> gnomefreak: i thought of using upgrade manager to upgrade but my calcs say the download would take 15 hours
[07:45] <mart1> yes , pike
[07:45] <|chris3|> rambo3: says "Done."
[07:46] <rambo3> quit
[07:46] <GUARDiAN|nb> my notebook doesn't switch to battery-mode when the power adaptor is unplugged. this behaviour happens on ubuntu only. if i boot winxp or osx86 it works as expected... any ideas what may be broken?
[07:46] <ProsperoMeridion> gnomefreak: i will not use it. alternate just started to come in via torrent
[07:46] <|chris3|> rambo3: done
[07:46] <rambo3> reboot and see if it works
[07:47] <|chris3|> rambo3: "GRUB Loading stage1.5read error"
[07:47] <rambo3> does it say anything more then that error #
[07:48] <xtriox> can anybody tell me if linux as some limit in the amount of folders that can  be nested inside each other? or the path lengh?
[07:48] <|chris3|> rambo3: boot from cd: <return> "GRUB Loading stage1.5read error" <end>
[07:48] <gnomefreak> xtriox: 2-4gigs worth i cant remember
[07:49] <gnomefreak> xtriox: to write it anywhere
[07:49] <jak> Hi, is it possible to install apache prefork and apache worker (threads) on the same computer (so that they run on different ports) and so that the threaded one proxies the prefork one?
[07:49] <|chris3|> rambo3: I have been trying every grub command I can find for the past week on the net and nothing...
[07:49] <bSON> hi
[07:50] <ArrenLex> !hi
[07:50] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:50] <Armi^_> hi all, can someone tell me how to install bmpx (0.32) on my edgy system?
[07:50] <gpled> currently my 70G hd has one big ntfs.  would like to make a second partition of 20G to put ubuntu on it.  is their a safe way to make the new 20G partition?
[07:50] <|chris3|> gpled: google gparted
[07:50] <|chris3|> gpled:  very good free partion software
[07:50] <ArrenLex> gpled: there is no "safe" way to partition, you always run some risk. You better make a back-up if you have anything important. Once you've done that, the ubuntu livecd includes gparted, which will resize your partitions non-destructively.
[07:51] <|chris3|> gpled: plus it comes in iso format so that you can use it later on other stuff
[07:51] <Abst> Anyone know how to solve this so I can install packges, it appears after they have downloaded.
[07:51] <Abst> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 10712 package `menu-xdg':
[07:51] <pike_> gpled: id backup important stuff first
[07:51] <|chris3|> gpled: I agree with the backup, but I have never had a resize go wrong on me yet
[07:51] <ArrenLex> Abst: how about looking at that file and seeing if line 10712 looks weird?
[07:52] <bSON> for some weird reason, all active programs seem to use 4.0 GiB of memory according to gnome-system-monitor...
[07:52] <Abst> ArrenLex: Its a binary, I know no code.
[07:52] <silvertip257> david83 u still here???
[07:52] <ArrenLex> quit Class! *vanish*
[07:52] <eipihipl> hey, how do i replace ".fluxbox/" with "" from a file? (sed) ?
[07:52] <h36sa_> how can I configure an awe64 isa card? ubuntu detects it but it doesn't show up and alsa doesn't recognize it
[07:53] <alejandro> HOLA
[07:53] <Abst> Hola!
[07:53] <gpled> ok, will try making a backup with ntfsclone, from ubuntu live cd
[07:53] <silvertip257> david83_shopping u have fun doin that lol
[07:53] <kmaynard> ingles, por favor
[07:53] <bSON> and this really seems to eat up disk space...
[07:54] <gpled> thanks
[07:54] <alejandro> VVV
[07:54] <alejandro> V
[07:54] <alejandro> V
[07:54] <alejandro> V
[07:54] <alejandro> V
[07:54] <alejandro> V
[07:54] <alejandro> V
[07:54] <alejandro> V
[07:54] <alejandro> V
[07:54] <Abst> Spammy.
[07:54] <CromagDK> -v
[07:55] <kmaynard> lol
[07:55] <Abst> !es
[07:55] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:55] <kmaynard> Abst, nice touch
[07:55] <|chris3|> lol
[07:55] <|chris3|> rambo3: any more ideas?
[07:55] <b03nto> !id
[07:55] <ubotu> join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[07:56] <Abst> !en
[07:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about en - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:56] <kmaynard> figures
[07:56] <Abst> Hehe
[07:56] <rambo3> no , what your configuration . master primary , ide sata
[07:57] <|chris3|> rambo3: two ide hds one master one slave on the same ide cable
[07:57] <jazzrocker> anyone know why my motherboard would only be using half of it's available RAM?
[07:57] <jazzrocker> has anyone ever experienced this?
[07:57] <|chris3|> rambo3:  and I don't think it matters but I also have a USB drive
[07:57] <kmaynard> jazzrocker, bad ram?
[07:57] <jazzrocker> kmaynard, i'm sort of doubting it
[07:58] <buzzy> sorry for OT, people i m looking for fortran dedicated channel..is there one?
[07:58] <|chris3|> jazzrocker: some RAM need to have a paired chip to work
[07:58] <jazzrocker> kmaynard, it's brand new from circuit city, and my other (original RAM) is having the same behavior
[07:58] <jazzrocker> |chris3|, i've got two identical 1G chips
[07:58] <kmaynard> jazzrocker, is it a linux-only problem? does windows recognize it?
[07:58] <jazzrocker> kmaynard, no it's a bios level problem
[07:58] <rambo3> |chris3|, did you run grub install from rescue cd .
[07:58] <com4> is there a console util to setup ubuntu's firewall, or do i just write a script by hand and throw it in if-pre-up.d?
[07:58] <jazzrocker> kmaynard, i've got two identical 1G chips, brand new from circuit city, BIOS reports 1G of total ram
[07:59] <jazzrocker> kmaynard, so does top
[07:59] <|chris3|> jazzrocker: but sometimes you need to have the RAM in slot 1 and slot 3 leave 2 and 4 empty
[07:59] <kmaynard> jazzrocker, 1) update bios, 2) double check bios settings, 3) return
[07:59] <jazzrocker> |chris3|, i've only got two slots
[07:59] <jazzrocker> kmaynard, i originally bought a single 1G chip from them
[07:59] <kmaynard> jazzrocker, there's some sort of reset option on most bios's...try it?
[07:59] <jazzrocker> kmaynard, of the other brand of RAM they have. it also registered as half size
[07:59] <jazzrocker> kmaynard, that's why i took it back
[07:59] <|chris3|> rambo3: I have ran grub-install from ubuntu once I booted from supergrub cd
[08:00] <jazzrocker> kmaynard, ok i'll try resetting/flashing my BIOS
[08:00] <jazzrocker> hopefully that will work
[08:00] <kmaynard> wait
[08:00] <jazzrocker> yes?
[08:00] <|chris3|> jazzrocker: sounds like your mother board can only handle a gig
[08:00] <|chris3|> jazzrocker: I would look at the manual for the mother board (on line if you don't have it)
[08:00] <kmaynard> there's a soft reset you can do, and i cant remember what its called. i had to do it on a dell box after i removed an ibm deathstar hd
[08:00] <jazzrocker> |chris3|, um, no because the behavior occurs with any size of ram i put in
[08:00] <rambo3> |chris3|, i have no idea then , it not much of an error report.
[08:00] <kmaynard> its in the bios tho
[08:01] <jazzrocker> |chris3|, i have the manual... it's quite uninformative
[08:01] <kmaynard> failing that...do you have a hammer?
[08:01] <|chris3|> jazzrocker: lol superprise
[08:01] <jazzrocker> i mean it'll tell me where the CMOS jumper is
[08:01] <|chris3|> rambo3: I agree, this is lame that I don't get an error number I can look up
[08:01] <kmaynard> what brand/model mobo
[08:01] <jazzrocker> |chris3|, beyond that it doesn't say diddly it doesn't say on the box or in the bios :)
[08:01] <jazzrocker> kmaynard, it's a lower tier mobo, BioStar K8NHA Grand
[08:02] <jazzrocker> kmaynard, was a good deal from newegg.com iirc
[08:02] <|chris3|> rambo3: also lame that I can boot just fine from supergrub cd.  I just boot with the CD and tell it to boot the computer normally LOL
[08:02] <drummer> Can someone help me learn how to boot breezy directly into a text mode?  I have a new monitor that does not like my old setting for X and I need to change the conf file.
[08:03] <jazzrocker> ok well, i'm gonna reboot and try the bios thing. thx kmaynard, i'll let you know how it works out.
[08:03] <jazzrocker> i'm actually pretty sure i have the latest bios
[08:03] <com4> is there a console util to setup ubuntu's firewall, or do i just write a script by hand and throw it in if-pre-up.d?
[08:03] <Abst> Anyone know how to fix dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 10712 package `menu-xdg':
[08:03] <jazzrocker> can't remember
[08:03] <jadacyrus> On windows I was able to use my svideo cable from my gfx card to my TV to get a picture on the TV, how can I enable this on Linux?
[08:04] <pike_> jadacyrus: your using vesa driver or a driver for your vid card?
[08:04] <b03nto> drummer:press esc when boot and pick recovery mode..
[08:05] <jadacyrus> pike_: no nvidia driver
[08:06] <rambo3> |chris3|, maby your boot order in bios is wron
[08:06] <rambo3> grub stage1 error can be grub partition on other disk
[08:07] <pike_> jadacyrus: i got bored and looked it up http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98456
[08:07] <jadacyrus> forms are down
[08:07] <jadacyrus> forums*
[08:07] <pike_> check google cache
[08:07] <jadacyrus> how do i do that? cache:http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98456 ?
[08:08] <jadacyrus> yuip
[08:08] <|chris3|> rambo3: I just started looking into that
[08:08] <scheuri> forums are down again?
[08:08] <mixandgo> any ideea what this is : ALSA lib seq.c:911:(snd_seq_open_conf) symbol _snd_seq_hw_open is not defined inside (null) ???
[08:08] <pike_> google ubuntu nvidia tv out and click the cached link instead of main one
[08:09] <apokryphos> scheuri: #ubuntuforums
[08:09] <|chris3|> rambo3: to make things easier I unpugged all drives
[08:09] <|chris3|> rambo3: unplugged all extra drives...
[08:09] <rambo3> mixandgo, you dont have sequencer . do you need it
[08:09] <mixandgo> rambo3: how can I fix it ?
[08:10] <mixandgo> rambo3: qsampler doesn't work otherwise
[08:10] <rambo3> 1. buy a better sound card .  2. configure it in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa
[08:10] <mixandgo> rambo3: I do have a good soundcard ! :) RME Multiface II
[08:11] <rambo3> mixandgo, go to alsa search for your card and copy config files tp modprobe.d/alsa .
[08:12] <mixandgo> rambo3: is it modprobe.d/alsa ? cause I only have modprobe.d/alsa-base
[08:12] <rambo3> that works too
[08:12] <|chris3|> rambo3: thanks for the help.  Now i get DISK BOOT Failure.  I think my BIOS doesn't like booting from big drives
[08:13] <|chris3|> rambo3 I know what I need to fix now.
[08:13] <|chris3|> Thanks all
[08:13] <mixandgo> rambo3: thanks
[08:14] <JoshuaW> Hello :P
[08:15] <pike_> !hi
[08:15] <JoshuaW> Is anyone here?
[08:15] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:15] <pradeep> JoshuaW, hello
[08:15] <JoshuaW> I'm kinda stuck at a problem
[08:15] <frolle> I have Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 and i want to make my surround sound working, but its not possible for me. Someone who can help me?
[08:15] <scheuri> JoshuaW: there are over 900 people eagerly waiting for you to post your problem...;)
[08:16] <JoshuaW> I've been trying to install ubuntu, but I'm confused why partioning takes so long
[08:16] <JoshuaW> partitioning*
[08:16] <Abst> Are you resizing NTFS?
[08:16] <JoshuaW> I think so
[08:16] <Abst> Well
[08:16] <kmaynard> jazzrocker, any solution yet?
[08:16] <Abst> I'd say its gone wrong and you've lost all your windows partition.
[08:16] <JoshuaW> Actually not
[08:16] <Abst> >_>
[08:17] <JoshuaW> I'm currently still using my original windows
[08:17] <JoshuaW> I had to tell it to cancel (several times)
[08:17] <Abst> Hmm
[08:17] <JFreakCapo> hello everybody
[08:17] <Abst> Well resizing NTFS takes a long time anyway
[08:17] <Llewxam> how can i set up ndiswrapper correctly on dapper? tried everything and nothing seems to work.
[08:17] <Abst> I say the above cause when mine froze it did tgat
[08:17] <JoshuaW> Abst
[08:17] <Abst> It is better to use an in-windows partition manager IMO.
[08:17] <nobody_lv> resizing takes long time, if there are data on your disk
[08:17] <JFreakCapo> i have a mp3 player of 512 mb, but there is just availeble 400 mb, no folders, no files, nothing but i have lost 100 mb...
[08:18] <Abst> Partition Magic is cool.
[08:18] <JFreakCapo> can helpme anybody please ?
[08:18] <kmaynard> depends
[08:18] <JoshuaW> About now I have just used 8 gb for my windows
[08:18] <drummer> b30nto: Thank you very much that was exactly what I needed.
[08:18] <david83> JFreakCapo, could it have multiple partitions?
[08:18] <rambo3> JFreakCapo,  rm -rf /media/USB/.Trash
[08:18] <JoshuaW> So I still got a lot left I could give to the other installation :P
[08:19] <jhutchins_wk> JFreakCapo: Usually the operating system for the player takes up some space.
[08:19] <JoshuaW> Anyone know a partitioning program for free?
[08:19] <jhutchins_wk> fdisk
[08:19] <kmaynard> cfdisk
[08:19] <kmaynard> qtparted
[08:20] <trappist> gparted
[08:20] <kmaynard> !gparted
[08:20] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[08:20] <JoshuaW> isn't Gparted the one used by Ubuntu itself?
[08:20] <Llewxam> how can i set up ndiswrapper correctly on dapper? tried everything and nothing seems to work.
[08:20] <kmaynard> !wireless > Llewxam
[08:21] <pike_> JoshuaW: you could just find a torrent for a boot image of partition magic maybe
[08:21] <JFreakCapo> jhutchins_wk, there isn't .trash folder...
[08:21] <pike_> JoshuaW: there is a newer version of gparted than the one ubuntu uses though
[08:22] <JoshuaW> For windows?
[08:22] <jrib> ubotu: tell Llewxam about ndiswrapper
[08:22] <kmaynard> qtparted under knoppix or systemrescuecd...
[08:23] <b03nto> drummer, its b03nto :)
[08:23] <nikin> hy can someone tell me what program can read chm files? its an e-book
[08:23] <jrib> 1info xchm
[08:23] <bsdfox> how can I configure an awe64 isa card? ubuntu detects it but it doesn't show up and alsa doesn't recognize it
[08:23] <b03nto> nikin:xchm
[08:23] <jrib> !info xchm
[08:23] <ubotu> xchm: Compiled HTML Help (CHM) file viewer for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.2.0-5ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 856 kB
[08:23] <b03nto> nikin:or gnochm
[08:23] <nikin> thanx :D
[08:24] <JFreakCapo> it is possible format a usb device ?
[08:24] <loopout> hey guys, anyone know much about usb external HD's?\
[08:24] <nikin> JFC: what USB device?
[08:24] <kmaynard> loopout, whatre you trying to do
[08:24] <Armas> Ok question... I have 6gb of crap cluttering root protected files - so I deleted them with terminal as root. However I still have 6gb taken up, how to do I free this space?
[08:24] <sparkleytone> JFreakCapo: if its a usb mouse, no.  if its a usb storage device...yes.
[08:25] <b03nto> sparkleytone:lol
[08:25] <JFreakCapo> yes is a usb storage, a mp3 player
[08:25] <pike_> JFreakCapo: open a terminal and type mkfs and hit tab a few times for fat might do mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1 for example
[08:25] <loopout> kmay: I've got a new hd enclosure and I formatted it with my windows box and it works good.  I can copy from it to my ubuntu box but when I copy to it from the ubuntu box it only gets so far
[08:26] <nikin> you can sure format an usb mouse to.... heat it up to around 300 C then it melts and you can make nice statue from that molted plastic.. you can format a toy soldier or something like that
[08:26] <JFreakCapo> pike_, i have amkfs.vfat
[08:26] <bsdfox> JFreakCapo, yes
[08:27] <kmaynard> loopout, what filesystem?
[08:27] <JFreakCapo> my mp3 is mount in /media/usbdisk
[08:27] <nikin> oh yes.. btw.. is there any FS for HDD that both MAC OS X and Linux can RW?
[08:27] <Armas> Anyone?
[08:27] <Renan_s2> nikin, FAT32?
[08:27] <JFreakCapo> how format my mp3 ?
[08:27] <loopout> kmaynard: fat32 (is that what you mean?)
[08:27] <kmaynard> ya
[08:27] <jhutchins_wk> JFreakCapo: Unformat it first.
[08:27] <nikin> Renan: dunno, i never used a MAC
[08:27] <jhutchins_wk> er, unmount
[08:27] <jhutchins_wk> JFreakCapo: Unmount it then use mkfs
[08:28] <kmaynard> loopout, try running cp -v  from the terminal, see where/why it stops
[08:28] <jhutchins_wk> nikin: Linux supports Mac HPFS
[08:28] <JFreakCapo> jhutchins_wk, sorry but i'm newbie how Unformat ?
[08:28] <kmaynard> sometimes guis act up
[08:28] <nikin> JFC: if you are using KDE or Gnome.. ant then you can always try to rightclick the icon of it.. if i remember there is a format option there
[08:28] <loopout> trying now
[08:28] <jhutchins_wk> JFreakCapo: Sorry, that was a typo.  unMOUNT it first, then use mkfs.vfat32 to format it.
[08:29] <Armas> Bah, Ubuntu Dapper seems buggy as hell
[08:29] <clearzen> Can I get help with beryl/compiz in this channel??
[08:29] <Terminus> Armas: how so?
[08:29] <nikin> jhutcins: so if i format my hdd to HPFS, my frien can write on it.. and i can read it at home... ok ty
[08:29] <kmaynard> Armas, xp is stable
[08:29] <Armas> I've had all kinds of problems, simple but frustrating. Mostly from a fresh install
[08:30] <Terminus> Armas: like?
[08:30] <JFreakCapo> sorry my stupid question, but unmount and unplug or just unmount ?
[08:30] <Armas> Example, I installed with a liveCD, onto this PC and sound was giving me issues
[08:30] <Armas> It seemed to be some kind of permissions bug
[08:30] <Armas> The main user created from the LiveCD couldn't hear sound no matter what, but was part of the groups that should be able to
[08:30] <b03nto> JFreakCapo: its all fine
[08:31] <Armas> by creating a new user, that user was able to use it
[08:31] <Armas> So I decided to do another install with the same CD
[08:31] <Armas> And Sound worked for the first user created
[08:31] <Armas> Why would that be? Sounds buggy
[08:31] <JFreakCapo> jhutchins_wk, sorry, i have unmount my mp3 and unplug or just unmount ?
[08:32] <Armas> About 30mins ago, the system decided to create three 1.9gb log files
[08:32] <clearzen> I have successfully ( for the most part) installed beryl and the beryl themes also the beryl manager. However beryl will not start. can anyone help me with this??
[08:32] <Armas> These log files are totally useless on this system, trying to open them crashes things horribly
[08:32] <Armas> So I decided to just part with them, 6gb is a ton of space to take up.
[08:33] <Terminus> Armas: i can't really think about why that's happening to you. then again, i've never installed dapper from a livecd.
[08:33] <daxxar> What triggers monitor/screen-blanking on my Ubuntu-machine? (after inactivity)
[08:33] <daxxar> How can I disable it, or make my LIRC-remote wake it up?
[08:33] <mthakur> how do u install wireless networking?
[08:33] <Armas> Terminus: I can't either
[08:33] <Armas> Terminus: My current problem is baffling me too
[08:33] <mthakur> i am in need urgently pleees some1 help me
[08:33] <rambo3> daxxar, that your bios not ubuntu
[08:33] <Terminus> Armas: what kind of log files were being generated anyway?
[08:34] <daxxar> rambo3, the BIOS disables VGA out on inactivity? :(
[08:34] <rambo3> you can maby use irexec
[08:34] <Armas> Terminus: All I know is it was kern.log, messages and syslog
[08:34] <Armas> Terminus: But at 1.9gb, I couldn't open them
[08:34] <[GuS] > People... there is a problem in Edgy with USB disk? when i put data on it, i unplug and plug again.. and the disk is empty...
[08:34] <Armas> Terminus: It'd just freeze everything before the process was killed
[08:34] <daxxar> rambo3, what can I use to wake it?
[08:34] <[GuS] > this happening to me with every USB disks..
[08:34] <mthakur> hello every1
[08:34] <mthakur> can u pleesse help me
[08:34] <Bazzi> [GuS] : did you unmount it properly?
[08:34] <mthakur> i am in need urnegtly
[08:34] <daxxar> (it's running X)
[08:34] <[GuS] > yes
[08:34] <loopout> kmaynard: it copied 250mb real quick, now it's just sitting there and not finishing, but it adds a few mb's every now and again
[08:34] <[GuS] > like always
[08:35] <[GuS] > in dapper this does not happen
[08:35] <Bazzi> works for me in edgy
[08:35] <[GuS] > (i am usign Kubuntu Edgy)
[08:35] <loopout> kmaynard: can I reformatt this thing?
[08:35] <[GuS] > :(
[08:35] <Terminus> Armas: maybe there's something weird with your hardware that causes the kernel to bork. i only have 12mb of log files since march.
[08:35] <ka6sox> help with dapper PPC installation here?
[08:35] <[GuS] > same thing with a Mp3 player...
[08:35] <Ciaus> [GuS] , Are u telling it to eject the drive?
[08:35] <[GuS] > yes
[08:35] <rambo3> daxxar,   irexec , see first in your bios to desable anything energy saving
[08:35] <jhutchins_wk> How do you determine what cute version name you have?
[08:35] <Armas> Terminus: My only guess is from a DVD not working with Mplayer correctly
[08:35] <[GuS] > to Unmount properly
[08:36] <Armas> Terminus: Mplayer just died completely from it
[08:36] <Ciaus> I have noticed on occassion that writes dont complete until the umount is sent
[08:36] <Terminus> jhutchins_wk: lsb_release -a
[08:36] <[GuS] > :S
[08:36] <nikin> where is the [debian]  menu file located ?
[08:36] <clearzen> (12:46:28 PM) jhutchins_wk: How do you determine what cute version name you have? lol that is great
[08:36] <[GuS] > the thing is that in Dapper this does not happen Ciaus
[08:37] <Armas> Terminus: Anyway, I deleted the files with root in the terminal and I still have 6gb being used up.
[08:37] <Terminus> Armas: well, mplayer is in the universe repo which means it's not being maintained as much as those in main.
[08:37] <[GuS] > maybe a problem in  Kubuntu... edgy
[08:37] <jhutchins_wk> Hmn... "No LSB modules are available."
[08:37] <ka6sox> is there a good place to ask dapper PPC questions?
[08:37] <jhutchins_wk> Don't like that...
[08:37] <Terminus> Armas: anyway, since i've never had that kind of problem, i don't see how i can help you. =(
[08:37] <jhutchins_wk> Terminus: Thanks.
[08:37] <Terminus> jhutchins_wk: that's normal.
[08:38] <Armas> Terminus: Bummer. :(
[08:38] <Armas> Terminus: The / hd has 370mb left because of this
[08:38] <nikin> Armas: empty trash :D
[08:38] <jhutchins_wk> Terminus: Yeah, I realise.  I'm sticking with *buntu packages anyway, so it won't matter.
[08:38] <Armas> nikin: there is no trash :(
[08:38] <nikin> the root has trash
[08:38] <Armas> nikin: I checked root's trash
[08:38] <Terminus> Armas: you might want to check dmesg. maybe it'll point you in the right direction.
[08:38] <jhutchins_wk> Terminus: I'm determined not to try to hammer this into a replica of a RH box.
[08:39] <loopout> anyone know how to formatt a USB enclosed HD from the command line?
[08:39] <nikin> its empty?
[08:39] <Phoul> Hey, Is it possible to convert a .wmv into a vcd? (.bin & .cue) ?
[08:39] <Armas> it's empty
[08:39] <Terminus> Armas: what did you use to open the logfiles anyway? even less can't handle them?
[08:39] <ka6sox> loopout: what filesystem
[08:39] <Normal> I've been trying to find a download manager in Synaptic, but to no avail.. Is there one there?
[08:39] <b03nto> Normal:d4x
[08:39] <Armas> Terminus: First, I tried Gedit, then I tried nano in terminal
[08:39] <Devil_Kin> hey folks
[08:40] <Normal> Thank you!
[08:40] <loopout> ka6sox: what do you recommend (I use it as a jump drive of sorts)
[08:40] <Devil_Kin> is there per any chance something like "experimental" in ubuntu?
[08:40] <Terminus> Armas: it probably won't fit in ram and swap anyway...
[08:40] <ka6sox> loopout, do you use it for windows/mac also?
[08:40] <Armas> Terminus: According to dmesg, I believe the problem with the DVD caused this
[08:40] <Terminus> Armas: since you mentioned kern.log though, might be a kernel issue. borked driver or something...
[08:41] <Terminus> Armas: yeah... you could try changing the drive.
[08:41] <loopout> ka6sox: yeah, windows and ubuntu
[08:41] <b03nto> loopout:fat32
[08:41] <nikin> look for other trash folders...
[08:41] <rosshend> anyone know of a quicksilver equivalent for linux?
[08:41] <loopout> what
[08:41] <Armas> Terminus: my guess is the log was this giant I/O error being repeated over and over
[08:41] <loopout> what's the command line for that?
[08:41] <ka6sox> loopout, yes...fat32...let me find the commandline
[08:42] <mthakur> hello everyone, i just installed ndiswrapper but it does not seem to work
[08:42] <Armas> Terminus: Now if I could only find this phantom 6gb being used
[08:42] <nikin> i have trash on my hda2 to called .trash-1000
[08:42] <kmaynard> loopout, how much total are you tring to copy?
[08:42] <Terminus> Armas: oh, or even worse, might be a chipset error. i have a bunch of I/O errors on my debian box because of the chipset. of course, i'm just guessing here.
[08:42] <b03nto> loopout:mkfs.vfat
[08:42] <kmaynard> Armas, man du
[08:42] <rosshend> mthakur... what wireless card are you using?
[08:42] <kmaynard> !du
[08:42] <loopout> kmaynard: it's a 700mb+  file
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about du - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <Armas> !du
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about du - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <mthakur> rosshend, i am using a bt 1055 wireless adapter
[08:43] <kmaynard> loopout, is it one file?
[08:43] <Terminus> Armas: well, if you made lots of partitions, df -h should be enough to give you an idea of where it is.
[08:43] <MrMazda> :~( :~( :~(
[08:43] <Armas> Terminus: Says it's still on hda1
[08:43] <loopout> kmaynard: yeah, but it also stall on multiple smaller files
[08:43] <rosshend> mthakur.. fraid i dont know anything about that one... have u checked the wiki?
[08:43] <Terminus> Armas: du would also work like kmaynard said but it'll take more time.
[08:43] <mthakur> rosshed, how do u do that?
[08:43] <mthakur> rosshend, how do u do that
[08:44] <Armas> trying du
[08:44] <MrMazda> :~( :~( :~( looking through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto?action=show&redirect=AptGetHowTo and man dpkg and man apt-get I can't figure out how to show all installed packages. I need dpkg-reconfigure, but don't know the package name that needs reconfiguring.  :~( :~( :~(
[08:45] <rosshend> mthakur try http://wiki.ubuntu.com ... ill try and find a more specific page
[08:45] <mthakur> thanks, rosshend
[08:45] <b03nto> MrMazda: dpkg -l
[08:45] <kmaynard> lok at the flags for du...if you're not careful it'll vomit woo much info
[08:45] <kmaynard> woo=too
[08:45] <Terminus> MrMazda: dpkg -l
[08:45] <loopout> b03nto: what device do i tell it?
[08:46] <kmaynard> you can get a reasonably concise result, or pipe it into a text file for easier review
[08:46] <kmaynard> du [flags]  > filename
[08:46] <ka6sox> loopout, best way is to attach it to your windows machine and then format it there.
[08:46] <rosa_> i have a problem: gnome-cups-manager does not show ANY drivers. that sucks. what can i do ?
[08:46] <MrMazda> Terminus: I tried dpkg -l * which to me was the only thing to try. Thx. :-)
[08:46] <b03nto> loopout:the one you want to format, check sudo fdisk -l
[08:46] <Armas> Hmm.
[08:46] <jasper> somehow openssh, is partially installed on ubuntu, but not installed correctly. how to uninstall or repair it?
[08:46] <Quintin> kmaynard: du -ah | tail -1 tard
[08:47] <kmaynard> Quintin, tell that to Armas
[08:47] <dyn-afk> jasper what do you mean by "partially installed" ?
[08:47] <Terminus> MrMazda: if you kinda know what package it is, use dpkg -l|grep $foo where foo is a search term.
[08:47] <Quintin> jasper: sudo aptitude purge openssh
[08:47] <Terminus> jasper: sudo apt-get --purge remove openssh
[08:47] <Theimon> good day people
[08:48] <MrMazda> Terminus:I dunno. I wrote to mailing list yesterday explaining horked upgrade, but got 0 response. Now I have no X.
[08:48] <jasper> well this is what it said in dpkg -l
[08:48] <Terminus> MrMazda: what's the error?
[08:48] <jasper> ri  openssh-client               4.2p1-7ubuntu3               Secure shell client, an rlogin/rsh/rcp repla
[08:48] <jasper> iU  openssh-server               4.3p2-4                      Secure shell server, an rshd replacement
[08:48] <jasper> iU  openssh-server-udeb          4.3p2-4                      Secure shell server for the Debian installer
[08:48] <loopout> b03nto: thanks its formatting now!
[08:48] <segfault> jasper, pkg is openssh-client or openssh-server
[08:49] <Theimon> anyone into xmms and its plugins?
[08:49] <Theimon> cause I got a slight problem so it seems.
[08:49] <MrMazda> Terminus: Xorg.0.log is very short, ending with "Backtrace:" and nothing more
[08:49] <bsdfox> who can help me setup an isapnp: Card 'Creative SB AWE64  PnP'  card.. ubuntu detects it but I get alsa device missing errors
[08:49] <rosshend> mthakur, cant seem to find anything specific to your card but have a look at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[08:49] <AlienX> anyone know of a library necessary to play a WVX file? I have w32codecs installed but it doesn't seem to be doing the trick
[08:49] <Terminus> MrMazda: hmmm... and no amount of updating will fix it?
[08:50] <ilo_admin> hello
[08:50] <dyn-afk> jasper by default ubuntu will only install the SSH client and not the server
[08:51] <david83> ilo_admin hi
[08:51] <MrMazda> Terminus: 'apt-get -r install' ends with "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[08:51] <ilo_admin> I have been searching for the last million hours on how to change the irq settings for a digium card
[08:51] <toem> join #ubuntu-de
[08:51] <pettern> hi. how do i unistall stuff that was installed bu automatix bleeder?
[08:52] <pettern> i installed the ati driver and lost my 3d support
[08:52] <Armas> du hurts my eyes.
[08:52] <ilo_admin> can anyone navigate me to a location on the web that discusses this I have no more hair to pull out
[08:52] <ilo_admin> please!
[08:53] <Terminus> MrMazda: what's -r? i don't see it in --help or the manpage.
[08:53] <xerux> How can I accept traffic from eth0 through eth1?
[08:53] <xerux> I've got this box that needs internet connection
[08:53] <Terminus> MrMazda: reinstall i assume? maybe -r is invalid?
[08:53] <xerux> through this computer
[08:53] <dyn-afk> use NAT XeruX aka, setup a router
[08:53] <MrMazda> Terminus: that was a suggestion by apt-get on a previous failure
[08:53] <Terminus> MrMazda: oh...
[08:53] <dyn-afk> there are tutorials on the net on how to do that
[08:53] <XeruX> dyn-afk: I've got a router, I just need to let traffic through my two network cards
[08:53] <b03nto> xerux: or try firestarter its come with nat setup...
[08:53] <jasper_> back :s
[08:53] <XeruX> this computer is connected via wlan
[08:54] <XeruX> while the other computer does not have a wlan-card
[08:54] <Terminus> MrMazda: sounds like it's borked beyond what i know. =(
[08:54] <XeruX> And it's only going to be a temp. solution
[08:54] <dyn-afk> try bridging eth0 and eth1
[08:54] <MrMazda> Terminus: all this trouble begain with trying to 'apt-get install edubuntu-desktop' yesterday
[08:54] <XeruX> dyn-afk: That's what I was thinking.. but how ? I don't know iptables :/
[08:54] <jasper_> but the two letters in front of the pkg ri iu iu .. thats not good i thought.. right?
[08:54] <Terminus> MrMazda: interrupted install?
[08:55] <dyn-afk> XeruX try the following link: http://linux-net.osdl.org/index.php/Bridge
[08:55] <knight> hello
[08:55] <knight> all
[08:55] <dyn-afk> great wiki btw on networking
[08:55] <XeruX> dyn-afk: thanx
[08:55] <Terminus> MrMazda: maybe aptitude has some ideas on how to clean up the packages.
[08:55] <dyn-afk> yw
[08:55] <MrMazda> Terminus: interrupted by packging errors
[08:55] <iturk> hi there i would like to change the resolution of my gdm that is different from my section of gnome because i just change it in (change screen resolution inside gnome)
[08:55] <knight> is there a way to change irq settings in linux
[08:55] <MrMazda> Terminus: lots of packaging error messages yesterday
[08:55] <knight> yes its charlie
[08:56] <jasper_> or is there a short command to repair openssh-server / openssh-client
[08:56] <chriss_> saba alguien como puedo grabar un dvd ps2 en ubuntu?
[08:56] <Terminus> MrMazda: try aptitude. at the very least, it might try to remove all the broken/unused packages.
[08:56] <Quintin> Is there any way to not get asked for my password when I do things that need root access?
[08:56] <knight> lets go to copacabana
[08:57] <MrMazda> Terminus: aptitude reinstall ends the same way as apt-get -r install
[08:57] <XeruX> dyn-afk: Where can I get "brctl"? :/
[08:57] <pettern> how do i unistall stuff that was installed with automatix bleeder?
[08:57] <XeruX> Searched in the package-system, didnt find it
[08:57] <levander> Anybody know a command I can use to check the bit rate of a wav file?
[08:57] <dyn-afk> good question XeruX :P
[08:58] <jstarcher> Hey I have a question about java. When you are linking to the path of java in web browsers like firefox and konqueror, do you link to the main folder or a secific folder/file within the java folder?
[08:58] <XeruX> dyn-afk: seems like I will need it
[08:58] <Terminus> MrMazda: sounds like the backend itself is busted. i can't help you there. sorry. =(
[08:58] <ajax4> levander: try the "file" command
[08:58] <MrMazda> Terminus: back end busted what it sounds like to me too, but dpkg-reconfigure dpkg doesn't help either
[08:58] <rx> hi.
[08:58] <Terminus> XeruX: sudo apt-get install bridge-utils i think
[08:58] <dyn-afk> XeruX read the wiki part "Downloading" because that tells you this: "Bridging is supported in the current 2.4 (and 2.6) kernels from all the major distributors. The required administration utilities are in the bridge-utils package in most distributions. Package releases are maintained on the Download page. "
[08:58] <rx> hi?
[08:59] <dyn-afk> so that would be what Terminus says :P
[08:59] <ilo_admin> does anyone have a answer about changing irq settings in ubuntu server 6.06
[08:59] <XeruX> ah, sweet.
[08:59] <Terminus> i've never gotten bridging to work though. =(
[08:59] <jstarcher> Hey I have a question about java. When you are linking to the path of java in web browsers like firefox and konqueror, do you link to the main folder or a secific folder/file within the java folder?
[08:59] <MrMazda> Terminus: I would try edgy, but have no DVD. does edgy have a boot.iso for network install?
[09:00] <beuno> does anyone have any idea why I would get this:  /j #ubuntu-server
[09:00] <siri_> hi all
[09:00] <jasper__> hmm there is something odd with my connection today
[09:00] <beuno> does anyone have any idea why I would get this:  mkpasswd: command not found
[09:00] <Terminus> MrMazda: no idea. i installed ubuntu from a breezy cd and just dist-upgraded from there. =)
[09:00] <der0b> jstarcher: you need to like to the correct .so file
[09:00] <beuno> (on ubuntu server)
[09:00] <jstarcher> nobody can help me?
[09:00] <jstarcher> all
[09:00] <rx> i tried the latest beta last nite
[09:00] <jstarcher> *ahh
[09:00] <knixtech> beuno, ?
[09:00] <rx> it didnt no install at all...an error showed about in the bootstrapping process
[09:00] <jstarcher> der0b: ic
[09:00] <harrytuttle> MrMazda, yes, edgy can be installed from a 8mbytes cdrom
[09:00] <kmaynard> jstarcher, install java with automatix, let it do the magic
[09:00] <levander> ajax4: it says "16 bit", but I'm looking for the same number that Winamp reports as "kBps".  Is bit rate the same as this number?  I got "14H" in the Winamp kBps field.
[09:00] <beuno> knixtech: for some reason I don't have that command
[09:01] <der0b> jstarcher: just be patient if you don't get an answer right away
[09:01] <knight> I know
[09:01] <knixtech> beuno, to join the irc chat?
[09:01] <jasper__> Is there a short command to repair openssh-server / openssh-client or something to have openssh? i tried to get the pkg but then it needs a sick lot of resources
[09:01] <harrytuttle> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[09:01] <jstarcher> kmaynard: automatix?
[09:01] <MrMazda> harrytuttle: I looked for such a thing wednesday but couldn't find any :-(
[09:01] <kmaynard> !automatix
[09:01] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[09:01] <harrytuttle> MrMazda, it works great too, i tested it some hours ago
[09:01] <MrMazda> harrytuttle: thx!
[09:02] <beuno_> got disconnected
[09:02] <MrMazda> anyone know if edgy installer requires more than 192M of RAM?
[09:02] <beuno_> I get:
[09:02] <beuno_> lineage2@lineage:/etc/dovecot$ mkpasswd
[09:02] <beuno_> -bash: mkpasswd: command not found
[09:02] <ajax4> levander: Sorry, don't know much more than that.
[09:02] <ragno> hi every 1
[09:03] <levander> ajax4: plus, I got a WAV file that is 2.4 GB which has 4 hours of audio.  Doing the math as I see it, that's 21 kBps.
[09:03] <ragno> ne one familiar wuth the JDK 1.5
[09:03] <harrytuttle> MrMazda, the text mode installer should work with much less then 192.
[09:03] <jstarcher> ahh I just have to link to the 'java' file
[09:03] <Quintin> automatix breaks a lot.
[09:03] <jasper__> Is there a short command to repair openssh-server / openssh-client or something to have openssh? i tried to get the pkg but then it needs a sick lot of resources
[09:03] <Quintin> jasper__: YOU were just told the answer.  by more than one person!!!!
[09:03] <MrMazda> harrytuttle: thx again
[09:03] <kmaynard> jasper__, what broke?
[09:04] <kmaynard> oh, nevermind
[09:04] <Quintin> Is there a way to stop ubuntu from asking for my password when I use admin tools?
[09:04] <Deramin> anyone know how to compile a .java source file using the sun JDK in Ubuntu
[09:04] <thill2708> Does anyone know of a daemon that I can run that will download nzb's from an rss feed and put them in a certain directory for me?
[09:04] <b03nto> beuno_:is there mkpasswd at your /usr/bin
[09:04] <jasper__> Quintin: sorry if you didnt read it but i lost my connection a couple of times
[09:04] <robbbb> anyone know much about xmove?
[09:04] <Terminus> Quintin: don't think so. unless you login with the root account, which is very bad.
[09:04] <levander> Quintin: sudo only asks for your password the fist time you use it every fifteen minutes
[09:04] <levander> Quintin: i think it's 15 minutes
[09:04] <dmglouis_> my ubuntu computer isn't connecting to my router, can anyone help?
[09:05] <knixtech> dmglouis_, reboot your router
[09:05] <ajax4> levander: I don't think wavs use bitrade, I think they use Hz and KHz.
[09:05] <beuno_> b03nto, no  :(  why could that be?
[09:05] <levander> dmglouis_: try 'sudo /etc/init.d/network restart'
[09:05] <ajax4> levander: bitrade=bitrate
[09:05] <dmglouis_> knixech: ok, i'll try rebooting the router
[09:05] <Quintin> levander: I'm aware.  pointing out the obvious and wellknown is POINTLESS, thanks.  I don't want it to ask, ever
[09:05] <elias_> does anybody know how I get my vmware server to run in fullscreen mode?
[09:05] <b03nto> beuno_: maybe it get deleted ?
[09:05] <levander> ajax4: they've got a bit rate and a Hz number reported, are you saying the bit rate number reported is bogus?
[09:06] <beuno_> b03nto, how can I install it again?
[09:06] <Terminus> Quintin: oh yeah! i do remember a way to modify it!
[09:06] <matti> :)
[09:06] <nosilver4u> am i just daft, or is rhythmbox missing daap support?
[09:06] <ajax4> levander: I really don't know.
[09:06] <levander> ajax4: I wouldn't be surprised if it's bogus, I'm getting different numbers from 'file' and from winamp
[09:06] <Quintin> Terminus: oooooh.  do tell!
[09:06] <levander> ajax4: thanks for mentioning the file command
[09:06] <knixtech> elias_, click fullscreen?
[09:06] <levander> ajax4: that is a neat trick i'll use in the future
[09:06] <Terminus> Quintin: well, i remember doing it before but i forgot the layout of the sudoers file. basically, you just have to put :NOPASSWD somewhere.
[09:07] <ajax4> levander: Good luck finding out the rest of the info
[09:07] <Quintin> Terminus: that will do it in the GUI too?
[09:07] <bsdfox> who can help me setup an isapnp: Card 'Creative SB AWE64  PnP'  card.. ubuntu detects it on boot, but I can't access it.. alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[09:08] <Terminus> Quintin: oh, it's the other way around, NOPASSWD:
[09:08] <Quintin> Long topics suck.
[09:08] <elias_> knixtech: tells me I dont have the proper modes in xorg.conf 1280x800 display and want to run vmware at 1024x768. (running xgl, this might be the reason)
[09:08] <Abst> Can anyone help with this
[09:08] <Abst> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 10712 package `menu-xdg':
[09:08] <Abst>  value for `conffiles' has malformatted line `
[09:08] <Abst> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[09:08] <Terminus> Quintin: i have no idea... never tried that before. and i don't know if gksudo obeys the sudoers file. it probably does though.
[09:09] <knixtech> elias_, very true
[09:09] <jstarcher> hmm
[09:09] <knixtech> who wants to get "ubuntu tattoo's" with me?
[09:09] <elias_> is aiglx available for dapper + nvidia already?
[09:09] <SurfnKid> me me me
[09:09] <knixtech> nice
[09:09] <SurfnKid> heh
[09:09] <knixtech> right on the neck
[09:10] <SurfnKid> right on my bicep
[09:10] <harrytuttle> Abst, just out of curiosity, what kind of filesystem do you use, if you chose one different from the default
[09:10] <knixtech> nice
[09:10] <Abst> harrytuttle: default
[09:10] <Abst> I've never had problems before
[09:10] <SurfnKid> and then a microsoft flag on my ass
[09:10] <igcek> ive got celeron 900mhz and 128 of ram... will ubuntu work on it?
[09:10] <Armas> Ugh.
[09:10] <Abst> Yes igcek, try Xubuntu tho.
[09:11] <Armas> Du, at the end, says that I've used up 12gb (if I'm reading this right)
[09:11] <Armas> yet I have 18gb used up
[09:11] <Abst> igcek: The livecd wont
[09:11] <loopout> does anyone know what jumper setting I should use for a HD enclosure? cable select, master, or slave?
[09:12] <ardchoille> loopout: Depends on the number and settings of existing hd's
[09:12] <Admiral_Chicago> loopout: master if it is one
[09:12] <harrytuttle> loopout, depends on the enclosure. mine just doesn't care
[09:12] <tgelter> hey all - is there a way to add comments to openoffice writer documents like can be done in M$ word?
[09:13] <Admiral_Chicago> for more than one, you put the HD with the boot loader on master, the other as slav
[09:13] <Admiral_Chicago> e
[09:13] <loopout> it's a USB enclosure
[09:13] <b03nto> beuno_: i think it come with whois package
[09:13] <loopout> ..and i've got just one HD in my box
[09:13] <Admiral_Chicago> loopout: master, it might also say single
[09:13] <Admiral_Chicago> master/single
[09:14] <loopout> Admiral: ok i'll check it
[09:14] <beuno_> b03nto, yes it is, thank you
[09:16] <Quintin> Why is there no easy to use backup software installed by default?
[09:16] <ciphernemo> What's the best way to change one of my partitions from ext3 to XFS?
[09:16] <Quintin> Linux for human beings?!  Come on!
[09:17] <Quintin> ciphernemo: back up the data, format , move it back
[09:17] <ciphernemo> Quintin: no data, it's empty... I want technical, command line help, no high-level overviews
[09:17] <apokryphos> Quintin: Ubuntu is great, but some other distros are perhaps more user-friendly, I'd say.
[09:18] <ciphernemo> Quintin: ubuntu gui patition manager fails to mount it once I convert it to XFS
[09:18] <Quintin> ciphernemo: mount it at the command line then
[09:18] <harrytuttle> ciphernemo, umount /dev/hdxx;mkfs.xfs /dev/hdxx;mount /dev/hdxx
[09:18] <ciphernemo> harrytuttle: thank you :)
[09:18] <andrea> hi
[09:18] <ciphernemo> Quintin: please don't try to help me anymore
[09:19] <andrea> iwha<t?
[09:19] <andrea> what?
[09:19] <corecode> hey
[09:19] <andrea> can someone help me?
[09:19] <Quintin> ciphernemo: ?
[09:19] <tgelter> so...adding comments in openoffice writer documents? anyone know how?
[09:19] <apokryphos> !helpme
[09:19] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:20] <corecode> i have the source to a kernel module which wants to access "/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-server/build"
[09:20] <Quintin> ciphernemo: wtf is your deal?  just mount it at command line, it's not difficult.
[09:20] <corecode> any idea where to get this from?
[09:20] <Admiral_Chicago> Qui
[09:20] <tahorg> mmh, why can't I find wine in edgy repository ?
[09:20] <tahorg> is this a political reason ?
[09:20] <graft> oi, why is audacity all screwy font-wise?
[09:20] <Admiral_Chicago> Quintin: thats not helpful, he may not know how to de it
[09:20] <andrea> i ve intalled mozzila firefox in italian but i search mozzilla and i not find that
[09:20] <andrea> can you help me
[09:21] <Admiral_Chicago> tahorg: #ubuntu+1 for edgy help/questions
[09:21] <graft> err, actually, all my gtk 1 apps have strange font problems...
[09:21] <Quintin> Admiral_Chicago: eat me.
[09:23] <harrytuttle> tahorg, wine is in edgy, look better
[09:23] <Outrunner> does anyone knows a nice way to play ragnarok on linux??
[09:23] <SurfnKid> how can i set the color darker for the entire window im using?
[09:23] <corecode> hey
[09:23] <graft> how do i get anti-aliased, or at least not-totally-ugly, fonts for gtk 1.* apps?
[09:23] <corecode> i have the source to a kernel module which wants to access "/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-server/build"
[09:24] <Admiral_Chicago> Outrunner: have you checked wine
[09:24] <corecode> any clue where to find that?
[09:24] <Outrunner> i tried...
[09:24] <Outrunner> didnt work...
[09:24] <corecode> am i repeating myself?
[09:24] <corecode> sorry if so
[09:25] <harrytuttle> corecode, do you have linux-headers-something installed?
[09:25] <w30> SurfnKid, just for one window?
[09:25] <corecode> harrytuttle: sources
[09:25] <corecode> harrytuttle: linux-sources
[09:25] <tahorg> harrytuttle: main restricted universe multiverse ... apt-cache search wine doesn't give me the expected answer
[09:25] <his_dudnes> corecode : try installing the kernel source with synaptic or apt. I dont know the exact package you want ...
[09:25] <corecode> i installed linux-source
[09:25] <tahorg>   libwine: Depends: wine but it is not installable
[09:25] <harrytuttle> corecode, you need the headers relative to your current kernel to compile an external module against that kernel
[09:26] <andrea> LISTEN ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:26] <erUSUL> !caps
[09:26] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:26] <his_dudnes> if it is already installed maybe you just need to create a symbolic link .you do that with the command "ln"
[09:26] <erUSUL> !patience
[09:26] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:26] <andrea> sorry
[09:26] <harrytuttle> tahorg, it works for me! you can even find it if you search on packages.ubuntu.com
[09:27] <andrea> are there any italian?
[09:27] <buzzy> how can i instala maya 3d program?
[09:27] <harrytuttle> tahorg, maybe you missed an apt-get update before apt-cache search?
[09:27] <Abst> !it
[09:27] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:27] <andrea> ok thanks
[09:28] <ADminS> how i can export my bookmarks from Firefox ?
[09:29] <Quintin> ADminS: 'bookmarks.html'
[09:29] <tahorg> harrytuttle: no I did not forget to upgrade
[09:29] <Admiral_Chicago> ADminS: manage bookmarks
[09:29] <tahorg> update
, file-->bookmark-->manage bookmarks
[09:29] <ADminS> thx
[09:29] <peter77> hi, I've donwloaded the latest kernel 2.6.18, how do I install it into my ubuntu dapper drake?
[09:29] <harrytuttle> tahorg, update, not upgrade
[09:29] <t888> does the standard ubuntu bittorrent client supports resuming?
[09:29] <jmitchj> guys, how do i login as root?
[09:29] <mr_lampe> t888, yeah
[09:29] <tahorg> harrytuttle: yes I know, that was a typo.
[09:29] <peter77> how do I update the kernel in dapper drake to 2.6.18?
[09:29] <tahorg> 21:29 < tahorg> update
[09:30] <his_dudnes> jmitchj
[09:30] <b03nto> jmitchj: sudo -s -H
[09:30] <Abst> !sudo
[09:30] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:30] <mr_lampe> t888, jusst open the same torrentfile again
[09:30] <his_dudnes> sudo passwd root
[09:30] <jasper__> iam in ubuntu lamp and somehow iam not beable to manage to uninstall openssh-server it gives the error of unmet dependencies *pckges*
[09:30] <vovik> anyone using edgy right now?
[09:30] <jmitchj> thanks!
[09:30] <erUSUL> !kernel > peter77
[09:30] <jasper__> got send here by an other channel but is there a way to reinstall that?
[09:30] <d-E-u-S> i have install edgy, it boot and everything was fine, then i start dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, let every thing standart only used another resolution and now i cant start gnome
[09:30] <Abst> Vovik: #ubuntu+1
[09:30] <Mehrdad> How can I setup XGL stuff on 6.06?
[09:30] <MrFeetio> ok, im bored
[09:30] <harrytuttle> tahorg, ops sorry. you should really find it with apt, it's in the repository, you can even download from packages.ubuntu.com, i don't understand. can you find widh apt-cache other universe or multiverse packages?
[09:30] <MrFeetio> beryl
[09:31] <his_dudnes> from then on you can logon as root with the passwordyou suplied.Gdm will not allow a graphical root login by default
[09:31] <vovik> abst: ok
[09:31] <t888> mr_lampe - thanks
[09:31] <^captive> hi
[09:31] <his_dudnes> jmitchj i wasnt finished
[09:31] <MrFeetio> mehrdad there is a how-to on the ubuntu forums to set up beryl/xgl
[09:31] <jasper__> is there away to uninstall pkges without undependencies? or is there a way to repair / check ubuntu?
[09:32] <compengi> how can i upload my files through firefox?
[09:32] <erUSUL> !xgl > Mehrdad
[09:32] <muthana> how join channal ubuntu arabic
[09:32] <tahorg> harrytuttle: well, I found it too on packages but apt-get barks at me
[09:32] <jgerber> can anyone answer an apt-get  question for me?
[09:32] <MrFeetio> ask it
[09:32] <d-E-u-S> i have install edgy, it boot and everything was fine, then i start dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, let every thing standart only used another resolution and now i cant start gnome
[09:32] <david83> !ask
[09:32] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:32] <Mehrdad> just tell me if I should install a separate package? if not, I'll figure it out myself!
[09:32] <tahorg> harrytuttle: perhaps it's my mirror
[09:32] <elias_> Any chance I get around the following message when running XGL and wanting to run vmware fullscreen?
[09:33] <his_dudnes> jgerber say the question dont ask
[09:33] <compengi> how can i upload my files through firefox to ftp directory?
[09:33] <jgerber> i want to find libraries which i have previously installed with apt-get. is there a command to reveal where it has intalled them?
[09:33] <|thunder> d-E-u-S; is glcore or dri enabled in xorg.conf ?
[09:33] <elias_> Unable to find an appropriate host video mode.
[09:33] <elias_> Adding the guest mode to the 'display' subsection of the 'screen' section of your /etc/X11/XF86Config and restarting X is likely to help.
[09:33] <elias_> Failed to switch to full screen SVGA mode.
[09:33] <Abst> jgerber: dpkg -L <package>
[09:33] <jgerber> thanks
[09:33] <nosilver4u> anyone know if avahi/daap support is broken with itunes7?
[09:33] <MrFeetio> ok, i have beryl/xgl sett up, now what can i do
[09:33] <his_dudnes> this chanel is madnes!!!!
[09:33] <d-E-u-S> thunder: yes
[09:33] <MrFeetio> i need something to do
[09:34] <Admiral_Chicago> d-E-u-S: what do you mean can't start gnome? can you get to gdm
[09:34] <MrFeetio> im soooo bored
[09:34] <apokryphos> nosilver4u: wrong channel; try #ubuntu-offtopic perhaps
[09:34] <dmglouis> my ubuntu computer cant connect to my router, can someone suggest what I can do?
[09:34] <peter77> should I bother compiling the new kernel in drake to try and fix my issues with my battery monitor (ACPI) or just install a distro which I know will monitor it properly?
[09:34] <Outrunner> dmglouis
[09:34] <dmglouis> the ip address from the ubuntu box keeps changing too
[09:34] <graft> hey folks, i'm doing a bit of advocacy: brief, BRIEF reasons why linux is better than windows xp for desktop users
[09:34] <Outrunner> hmm...
[09:34] <dmglouis> outrunner: yes?
[09:34] <compengi> how can i upload my files through firefox to ftp directory?
[09:35] <Outrunner> compengi: i dont think u can, u have to use an ftp client
[09:35] <david83> dmglouis, is it wireless or wired network?
[09:35] <peter77> how easy is it to replace ubuntu with suse?
[09:35] <his_dudnes> compengi try nautilus
[09:35] <d-E-u-S> when i give in my PW and press enter restart the login manager
[09:35] <dmglouis> outrunner: my wireless works fine but wired doesnt and I want the wired to wok
[09:35] <david83> dmglouis, do you have an DHCP because of the switching ips?
[09:35] <apokryphos> peter77: as easy as it is to replace any other distro
[09:35] <Armas> I can't find where this 6gb is being used up.
[09:35] <MrFeetio> windows xp is bad for you soul, it runs faster, plus their is no ugly blue-green bar on the botttem
[09:35] <dmglouis> david: I set static address on the ubuntu box
[09:35] <apokryphos> Armas: try using filelight
[09:36] <peter77> ooh, I dunno if it's worth compiling a new kernel or not to try and fix the problem
[09:36] <Armas> Hmm
[09:36] <corecode> harrytuttle: thanks a lot
[09:36] <d-E-u-S> when i give in my PW and press enter restart the login manager Admiral_Chicago
[09:36] <corecode> harrytuttle: it wasn't obvious to me that this is contained in -headers
[09:37] <compengi> his_dudnes, i have it installed but can't find it, how can i run it
[09:37] <david83> dmglouis, paste your /etc/network/interfaces to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please
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[09:37] <dmglouis> daivd: ill tell you when im done
[09:38] <oblib> Where do I configure standby in Dapper?
[09:38] <david83> dmglouis, alright
[09:38] <Admiral_Chicago> d-E-u-S: log into a fail safe terminal
[09:39] <dgags> good afternoon all
[09:39] <Admiral_Chicago> and type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:39] <d-E-u-S> what to do then admiral_chicago
[09:39] <Vladaz> hello
[09:39] <dmglouis> david: its going to take some time, my comp just froze and I had to restart
[09:39] <Admiral_Chicago> use the defaults is my suggestion
[09:39] <Abst> Is there a program to change the wallpaper to a random one from a dir every x minutes
[09:39] <david83> dmglouis, so you have wireless and wired network at the sametime to the router??
[09:40] <dmglouis> david: yes
[09:40] <david83> dmglouis, what for?
[09:40] <dmglouis> david: but I disabled wireless
[09:40] <Vladaz> i've installed ubuntu onto my PC which has windows installed too, but it gives me this error when it boots: Kernel Panic -> not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) . I installed debian, it works fine. I changed hdd, before ubuntu was working fine too, but i can't remember if it worked with my new hdd
[09:40] <Vladaz> what's wrong?
[09:40] <dmglouis> david: thats the only way I can get any internet on it, through wireless
[09:40] <buzzy> how can i instala maya 3d program?
[09:40] <dmglouis> david: but I want to use the wired
[09:40] <w30> dmglouis, and the wires (plugin port) match the static address served by the router?
[09:41] <david83> dmglouis, disconnected wireless hardware ?
[09:41] <apokryphos> Abst: in KDE it comes by default, yes ;-)
[09:41] <dmglouis> david: yes
[09:41] <Abst> apokryphos: In gnome
[09:41] <jmitchj> can anyone help with this message?...Can't find kernel build files in /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-amd64-generic/build;
[09:41] <jmitchj>   give the path to kernel build directory with
[09:41] <jmitchj>   KBUILD=<path> argument to make
[09:41] <david83> dmglouis, but it's not the pc your chatting with i hope
[09:41] <dmglouis> david: no
[09:41] <XenThraL> in KDE how do I change my default sound device?
[09:41] <dmglouis> w30: yes
[09:41] <bsdfox> how do I make a module autoload on boot? it's for an isa sound card and it doesn't auto load right now..
[09:41] <david83> dmglouis, ok then take your time
[09:42] <b03nto> Abst:ChangeWallpaper, but its not on repo
[09:42] <Outrunner> hey i just tried to emulate ragnarok with the wine 0.9.9
[09:42] <harrytuttle> jmitchj, install linux-headers-2.6.15-27-amd64-generic or something like that
[09:42] <Abst> b03nto: I'll compile it, google?
[09:42] <Outrunner> i got this
[09:42] <Vladaz> anyon
[09:42] <Vladaz> anyone
[09:42] <graft> XenThraL: what are you using for sound output?
[09:42] <b03nto> Abst: try http://www.gnomefiles.org/
[09:42] <w30> dmglouis, have you used ping successfully to the router? or has that failed?
[09:43] <XenThraL> graft, the default option, let me check..
[09:43] <Outrunner> err:seh:setup_exception stack overflow 8 bytes in thread 001d eip 7ff9f041 esp 7 fa90ff8 stack 0x7fa91000-0x7fba0000
[09:43] <dmglouis> w30: nope no pin
[09:43] <Outrunner> any idea?
[09:43] <|thunder> d-E-u-S; if your using an nvidia driver   comment out dri and glcore and add glx. that fixes it for me.
[09:43] <XenThraL> graft eep I actually don't know which one kubuntu picked from the avaliable...
[09:43] <dgags> folks, i have a question regarding ubuntu 6.06. I have a dual P3 with an nvidia card. Problem is, I just did an update which included the kernel and it always installs the 386 version of the kernel which has no smp, how can I have the automatic update recognize the fact that it needs to also update the 686 version so I can get smp support without having to go into synaptic and select the kernel myself?
[09:43] <Abst> b03nto: I assume I could just cron this script?
[09:44] <XenThraL> graft ALSA now
[09:44] <Outrunner> cant anyone help? please? im desperate...
[09:44] <graft> XenThraL: um, and you want to achieve what?
[09:44] <w30> dmglouis," /etc/init.d/networking restart" is the command to restart networking after a configuration change. Are you ok there?
[09:44] <Zaggynl> anyone knows a GUI way of mounting images (.bin, .mds, .iso) in Ubuntu?
[09:45] <dmglouis> w30: i haven't done that
[09:45] <Armas> Ok this is strange.
[09:45] <XenThraL> graft change the hardware that plays the sound
[09:45] <graft> XenThraL: you have two soundcards or what?
[09:45] <XenThraL> yes
[09:45] <Armas> Filelight says I have 17gb at first on /dev/hda1
[09:45] <his_dudnes> Zaggynl try the command line it is realy easy
[09:45] <graft> XenThraL: um, fiddle with your .asoundrc
[09:45] <Armas> but upon clicking on that, I have 10.4gb
[09:45] <Armas> :(
[09:45] <w30> dmglouis, prolly need a sudo in front for superuser permission
[09:45] <elias_> how can I change display modes in X Alt+Ctrl++/- right?
[09:45] <oblib> Can anyone help me set up Suspend to RAM correctly?
[09:45] <his_dudnes> hor isos at least
[09:45] <dmglouis> david: ive pasted
[09:45] <Zaggynl> his_dudnes, :( no known frontends?
[09:45] <Armas> This is starting to get really frustrating.
[09:46] <Zaggynl> I mean: 'mount -o loop -t iso9660 -r cd_image.iso /mnt/cdrom' isn't very user friendly
[09:46] <his_dudnes> Zaggynl : :(((( i dont know of one but there should something
[09:46] <habeeb> Greetings, can Fluxbox run without GNOME? I'm using GNOME right now, and I'm thinking of changing. Also, if Fluxbox only runs with GNOME, then how is it faster? :/
[09:46] <Zaggynl> I'll google around a bit
[09:46] <XenThraL> graft, um, wheres that file? sorry I'm a linux noob
[09:46] <dmglouis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25827/
[09:46] <kmaynard> fluxbox runs fine by itself
[09:47] <david83> dmglouis, got it
[09:47] <w30> dmglouis, or else use the networking application in system-admin-networking
[09:47] <graft> XenThraL: ah... in your home directory... you might not have it
[09:47] <graft> XenThraL: if you don't, copy /etc/asound.conf to /home/<yourusername>/.asoundrc
[09:47] <XenThraL> that explains how I didn't find it
[09:47] <beuno_> I setup postfix according to this:  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=474576.  everything seems to work, except, SMPT lets me connect, but doesn't do anything when I send the commands
[09:48] <azureal> hi, i managed to mess up my ubuntu by upgrading to the edgy beta
[09:48] <david83> dmglouis, you got 6 network adapters working in your system???
[09:48] <azureal> i'm sitting atm on livecd, wondering whether to run the installer...
[09:48] <dmglouis> david: no
[09:48] <kmaynard> beuno_, try this: http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/
[09:48] <dmglouis> david just 2 i think, the ehternet one and a usb wireless
[09:48] <habeeb> Greetings, can Fluxbox run without GNOME? I'm using GNOME right now, and I'm thinking of changing. Also, if Fluxbox only runs with GNOME, then how is it faster? :/
[09:48] <kyja> heh azureal  so did I. good thing I parted installed and rescued the old.
[09:48] <krazykit> azureal: probably not a bad idea, assuming you backed up the stuff you need
[09:48] <azureal> or is there a way to revert back to a previous version
[09:48] <krazykit> habeeb: yes, it runs without gnome.
[09:48] <habeeb> !fluxbox > habeeb
[09:49] <beuno_> kmaynard, will do, thanks
[09:49] <kmaynard> habeeb, fluxbox runs fine by itself
[09:49] <dmglouis> david: should I erase those other entries?
[09:49] <krazykit> habeeb: it runs perfectly without gnome
[09:49] <kyja> you can part a drive after also
[09:49] <azureal> krazykit: if i run the installer and format only / , what exactly will it format
[09:49] <krazykit> azureal: everything on /
[09:49] <graft> XenThraL: did that?
[09:49] <azureal> krazykit: is there a way to save my ~?
[09:49] <habeeb> kmaynard: Hmm, then what happens when I chose "Fluxbox" instead of Metacity, from the Sessions Menu
[09:49] <XenThraL> graft,  ...nope, can't find asound.conf either
[09:49] <kyja> then put a new install on and then mount the old and copy what you need from home
[09:50] <kmaynard> habeeb, you could do a base install of ubuntu and install fluxbox without ever touching gnome if you wanted
[09:50] <graft> XenThraL: /etc/asound.conf
[09:50] <david83> dmglouis, comment them out not erase i
[09:50] <krazykit> azureal: sure.  external hard drives, other partitions, CDs, DVDs.  whatever.
[09:50] <graft> XenThraL: you definitely have that if you're using ALSA...!
[09:50] <dmglouis> david: comment how? (#?)
[09:50] <krazykit> azureal: technically, you could delete everything BUT /home, and not partition.
[09:50] <kmaynard> habeeb, you choose fluxbox, it runs fluxbox...pretty straight forward
[09:50] <azureal> krazykit: er... and then? =P
[09:50] <kmaynard> Armas, careful...might ding your keyboard
[09:50] <Armas> Man this is messed up.
[09:51] <david83> dmglouis, yes an # before every line you want to deactivate
[09:51] <krazykit> azureal: um.  tell it to install to that partition without remaking the filesystem and stuff
[09:51] <XenThraL> graft, perphaps something to do with the fact I just set it as ALSA ?
[09:51] <BrianB04> Hello all.
[09:51] <dgags> egads, quite busy in here.
[09:51] <XenThraL> graft, the file is definitly not there...
[09:51] <david83> dmglouis, rausb0 and eth0 are the real adapters?
[09:51] <azureal> krazykit: the installer has to format / when it installs
[09:51] <Surger> Can someone tell me the name of the auto mount system or where it's config files are?
[09:51] <beuno_> kmaynard, should I install dovecot then?
[09:51] <krazykit> azureal: no it doesn't.
[09:51] <his_dudnes> Surger :i think you whant /etc/fstab
[09:52] <kmaynard> beuno_, not necessary
[09:52] <graft> XenThraL: if you installed ALSA properly, it oughta be there... i'd make sure alsa is installed properly, sudo apt-get install libasound2
[09:52] <david83> Surger, i guess hotplug! or newer udev
[09:52] <krazykit> i've installed on premade partitions and filesystems fine, azureal... i think it was the expert/advanced thing though
[09:52] <harrytuttle> azureal, not necessarily, but a backup of home is recommended
[09:52] <Surger> When I plug my USB disk in it get's mounted with noexec :-\
[09:52] <kyja> Surger, open a terminal and type mount or mount --help
[09:52] <kmaynard> beuno_, how complex is your mail setup?
[09:52] <amit> Hi all, some questions please, if i compile from source an app, how do i uninstall it?
[09:52] <XenThraL> "libasound2 is already the newest version."
[09:52] <Armas> kmaynard: If you delete a file while in gksudo nautilus, and then delete that file from root's .Trach in terminal, where does it go?
[09:52] <Armas> .Trash*
[09:52] <lamego> amit, you don't unless you use checkinstall to generate a ,deb for it
[09:52] <beuno_> kmaynard, I need to setup a few accounts for 2 different domains, thats all  SMTP and POP3 only
[09:52] <azureal> krazykit: expert/advanced thing? how do i do that
[09:52] <dmglouis> david: yes rausb0 and eth0
[09:52] <kmaynard> Armas, away?
[09:53] <Armas> kmaynard: that's the problem, it's still taking up 6gb
[09:53] <krazykit> azureal: dunno, i've never used the desktop install
[09:53] <kmaynard> beuno_, ive done that, and i used flurdy's docs...you dont have to install everything in there, but it's a killer guide
[09:53] <kyja> Surger, mount alone I think tells you the paths and names of the files that mount your disks. and help can tell you how to do it manualy
[09:53] <dgags> anyone have any idea why automatic update would skip upgrading the 686 smp kernel? Whenever there's an update that includes the kernel, only the 386 one is installed leaving me to install the smp one by hand. Any ideas?
[09:53] <david83> dmglouis, ok so now you got the wireless usbstick disconnected right ?
[09:53] <amit> lamego, so if i didn't i need to trace the files manually and remove them, right?
[09:53] <agent> how does one upload more than one attachment with a messege in launchpad?
[09:53] <jtholmes> paste-ubuntu  how do i read all current msgs
[09:53] <Surger> kyja: I don't want to do it manually. I want the auto mount system to work correctly.
[09:54] <azureal> krazykit: i'm looking at http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2urt285  right now
[09:54] <beuno_> kmaynard, following as we speak, wish me luck  :D  (I hope what I did with the other one doesn't complicate things)
[09:54] <kmaynard> Armas, its possible youre chasing the wrong windmill
[09:54] <dmglouis> david: not yet im still commenting
[09:54] <kyja> what drive are you having trouble with Surger ?
[09:54] <wildchild> hello
[09:54] <wildchild> how do I setup logitech's mic
[09:54] <Surger> kyja: External USB disk
[09:54] <kmaynard> beuno_, gl! holler if you need some help. i did the mysql backend and i use postgrey, but i dont do content filtering.
[09:54] <Armas> kmaynard:  hmm.
[09:54] <kyja> ah
[09:55] <dmglouis> david: i;ve disconnected it now
[09:55] <XenThraL> graft, I think I figured out how - thanks anyways :)
[09:55] <krazykit> azureal: again, i don't know how to work that installer.  i don't like it, so i never used it
[09:55] <beuno_> kmaynard, quick question, what would I put in "myhostname" if I'm using multiple domains?
[09:55] <jtholmes> !paste-ubuntu
[09:55] <kmaynard> Armas, did you have any luck with du?
[09:55] <lamego> amit, use checkinstall
[09:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste-ubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:55] <azureal> krazykit: ok, which installer would you recommend
[09:55] <lamego> amit, checkinstall traces the files installed and creates a .deb
[09:55] <kyja> I had trouble with 2 of them if I left tem plugged in on startup and had to mount as root Surger
[09:55] <lamego> amit, then just remove that .deb
[09:55] <Armas> kmaynard: It's too much to look through, is there a way I can shorten it?
[09:55] <lamego> i mean, remove the package installed by the deb
[09:55] <MrMazda> I've attempted install of 5.10 and 6.06 several times on one box that checks out in all hardware tests. Now trying edgy the same thing happens during install: "Warning: Failure while installing base packages. This will be re-attempted up to five times." On tty4 there are always various processing errors. :~(
[09:55] <david83> dmglouis, now do an "ifconfig" what is running?
[09:55] <amit> i'll check it out, thanks
[09:56] <kmaynard> beuno_, i used my server's primary hostname (work)...all other domains are virtual. pick one, then make the others virtual
[09:56] <dmglouis> eth0 and lo
[09:56] <Armas> kmaynard:  du runs through some 400gb of files
[09:56] <kmaynard> beuno_, you might be able to make it localhost too
[09:56] <kyja> Surger, do you leave them plugged in on boot up?
[09:56] <dmglouis> david: eth0 and lo
[09:56] <MrMazda> e.g. corrupted filesystem tarfile
[09:56] <dmglouis> david: should I comment out lo too?
[09:56] <david83> dmglouis, is your wired hardware connected?
[09:56] <dmglouis> david: yes
[09:57] <nr4g3d> is there a toggle on Xchat that allows me to view a users list? *ducks*
[09:57] <dmglouis> david: my router keeps blocking this comp
[09:57] <david83> dmglouis, no lo is always nessacary
[09:57] <b03nto> amit: i use stow if i compile something, and put it under opt
[09:57] <Surger> kyja: Nope - I plug it in and out when I need it.
[09:57] <amit> what is stow?
[09:57] <david83> dmglouis, can you ping your router?
[09:57] <dmglouis> david: no
[09:58] <agent> is it possible to upload more than one attachment with a messege in launchpad?
[09:58] <david83> dmglouis, what's your routers ip?
[09:58] <dmglouis> 192.168.2.1 but thats not public i dont think
[09:58] <Wodger> no thats  a private ip
[09:58] <kyja> seems that ubuntu thinks they are owned by root or unknown Surger. do they show up at computer:///
[09:58] <david83> right
[09:59] <b03nto> amit:Stow is a tool for managing the installation of multiple software packages in the same run-time directory tree
[09:59] <dmglouis> david: I'll show you some screenshots of the routers logs
[09:59] <TimothyP> Hello, I can't find any repo that offers sun-java-jre
[09:59] <david83> dmglouis what is in that logs?
[10:00] <david83> !repository
[10:00] <TimothyP> I tried deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf dapper free non-free
[10:00] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:00] <b03nto> amit:try here http://www.gnu.org/software/stow/
[10:00] <his_dudnes> TimothyP: try easyubuntu
[10:00] <dmglouis> david: it shows various ip addresses being blocked but they're all the ubuntu box
[10:00] <TimothyP> his_dudnes: ok
[10:00] <Paddy_EIRE> Hello I have a DVD video and I wish to make an ".iso" out of it, I believe I have all required files codecs and what not installed...what is the process (would appreciate a non-cli way of doing this please otherwise no thankyou) :)
[10:00] <Armas> Perhaps I should just reinstall
[10:00] <TimothyP> his_dudnes: it will not conflict with apt-get?
[10:00] <compengi> Outrunner, do you know any ftp client?
[10:01] <his_dudnes> it uses aptget
[10:01] <TimothyP> ok
[10:01] <his_dudnes> so i cant run at same time as upget
[10:01] <kyja> Surger, try this... open System>Administration>Users and groups
[10:01] <Outrunner> errr...
[10:01] <Outrunner> wait a minute
[10:01] <amit> i see, i have another unrelated questions if i may, does "upade-manager -c -d" outcome will be the same as installing edgy from scratch?
[10:01] <Surger> kyja: I think this may be a KDE related issue - I'll go ask there. Thanks
[10:01] <his_dudnes> *aptget .as you cant have 2 simultaneus aptgets running
[10:01] <kyja> ok
[10:01] <amit> b03nto, thanks i'll check it out
[10:02] <jtholmes> david83: what url  are you  using to read pastes by dmglouis?
[10:02] <manmadha> Is there any tool to convert Mp3 to wav formats?
[10:02] <Outrunner> compengi go to Applications menu
[10:02] <Outrunner> select Add/Remove...
[10:02] <david83> !topic
[10:02] <dgags> manmadha: sox
[10:02] <dmglouis> david: take a look a this http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v716/dmglouis/screen_router.jpg
[10:02] <Outrunner> search for one there
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <TimothyP> easyubuntu simply crashes
[10:02] <mjr> manmadha, mpg321 can do that as well as playing
[10:02] <david83> jtholmes look at the rooms topic!
[10:02] <TimothyP> so once again I'm looking for a jre2 repository
[10:02] <jtholmes> david83: thanks
[10:03] <manmadha> mjr, ya i installed it but i am failed how to run that application
[10:03] <kyja> TimothyP, what does easyubuntu have that automatix dont?
[10:03] <kyja> I forget
[10:03] <TimothyP> I have no idea :s
[10:03] <TimothyP> don't even know what easyubuntu has
[10:03] <kyja> k
[10:03] <Outrunner> compengi: theres gFTP there
[10:03] <TimothyP> all I want is to install sun-java
[10:03] <kyja> hehe
[10:03] <david83> dmglouis this are all public ips from the web that your router is blocking that is totally ok
[10:03] <TimothyP> www.ubuntuguide.org says how, but it doesn't say what repository
[10:04] <TimothyP> and I don't think java is illegal :s
[10:04] <manmadha> mjr, can u explain how to use it?
[10:04] <david83> !java
[10:04] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[10:04] <dmglouis> david: no they're not, they all correlate with the ping attempts
[10:04] <TimothyP> I have the mulvivers :s
[10:04] <dmglouis> david: well most of them
[10:04] <dgags> manmadha: google mpg123 mp3 to wav. It's the first hit I see.
[10:04] <TimothyP> but it says it's not in there....
[10:04] <TimothyP> been trough all the guids
[10:04] <kyja> no, better by the guide
[10:04] <dmglouis> david: and plus its a private ip
[10:04] <manmadha> dgags, thank u.....
[10:04] <kyja> sun screwed me up once
[10:04] <dmglouis> david: only computers on the network can access it
[10:04] <d-E-u-S>  I can't log in because I GNOME won't start. I tried to log in as a fail safe but I got a "server is already active for display" error
[10:05] <kyja> google automatix and you will be very impressed TimothyP
[10:05] <TimothyP> the packages are missing from the multivers
[10:05] <b03nto> TimothyP: why not d/w java from java.sun.com and build the deb ur self
[10:05] <TimothyP> ok kyja
[10:05] <david83> dmglouis this are all public ips 82.x.x.x 202.x.x.x just your 192.168.x.x is private
[10:05] <TimothyP> because I can't vind the java-package package either
[10:05] <TimothyP> which you need to bulid a deb from the installation file
[10:05] <kyja> ah
[10:06] <kyja> well that will cure some hard to find and set up issues =] 
[10:06] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone know of a way I can create an iso of a dvd movie that I have without cli
[10:06] <dmglouis> david: my router is being accessed that much?
[10:06] <TimothyP> the problem is that EVERY guide says they are in multvers but they are not in there
[10:06] <david83> dmglouis did you have an access control or remote management on your router?
[10:06] <kyja> TimothyP, have you ever enabled multiuniverse?
[10:06] <dmglouis> david: i haven't enabled remote management but yes I have acess control
[10:06] <willys_fueguino> hi, I need help 'cause ubuntu dont let me open my dvd...
[10:07] <david83> dmglouis this is normal in the internet scanning for good ports! but normally a router doesn't log them
[10:07] <chalcedony>  /ms
[10:07] <chalcedony> oops
[10:07] <Admiral_Chicago> willys_fueguino: have you tried right click eject
[10:07] <david83> dmglouis how is it configured the access control?
[10:07] <TimothyP> kyja I have loads of repos
[10:07] <TimothyP> including multivers
[10:07] <kyja> hmmm
[10:07] <willys_fueguino> Admiral_Chicago, xDD yeap. Im not that noob... XDDD
[10:07] <TimothyP> I have repos for w32codecs, for MP3 , dvd etc....
[10:07] <TimothyP> I've been using ubuntu since the beginning
[10:07] <TimothyP> I'm just saying something is missing and I don't know why
[10:07] <Admiral_Chicago> wil
[10:07] <dmglouis> david: well wireless is without any password
[10:07] <TimothyP> as they were always there before
[10:07] <chalcedony> does anyone know of a utility that will let me search in .doc documents ?
[10:08] <Wodger> what have you set up or trying to set up with this router?
[10:08] <TimothyP> I installed java like 50 times before
[10:08] <TimothyP> but not today
[10:08] <Admiral_Chicago> willys_fueguino: so that didn't help?
[10:08] <kyja> TimothyP, sounds strange. but if you never seen automatix you might realy like it.
[10:08] <Paddy_EIRE> TimothyP: does "beagle" not do this
[10:08] <jstarcher> If I want to refresh the apt-cache, I just do 'sudo apt-cache gencaches' right?
[10:08] <kyja> beagle ??????????////
[10:08] <d-E-u-S>  I can't log in because I GNOME won't start. I tried to log in as a fail safe but I got a "server is already active for display" error
[10:08] <david83> dmglouis ???
[10:08] <willys_fueguino> Admiral_Chicago, nop.Says that i most be root to do umount
[10:08] <dmglouis> wodger: the network is already set up with winxp comps but the ubuntu comps not connecting
[10:08] <TimothyP> Paddy_EIRE: do what? beagle is a desktop search tool written in mono, or are you talking about a different beagle
[10:08] <dmglouis> david: what?
[10:09] <Wodger> ethernet or wireless?
[10:09] <david83> dmglouis you can connect to your router through wireless without password?
[10:09] <david_> I am running Beryl on Ubuntu edgy, and I can't get the GTK theme to change
[10:09] <dmglouis> wodger: its both but im trying to connect to wired part
[10:09] <Paddy_EIRE> TimothyP: I though that there was an option in preferences to find text within a document
[10:09] <dmglouis> david: yes
[10:09] <anon32> stupid question: I have a 65GB ext3 partition. How come it only has 25GB free even though the total off all the contents is only 35.7GB?
[10:09] <willys_fueguino> Admiral_Chicago, says that I most be super user to do that
[10:09] <Paddy_EIRE> TimothyP: maybe im wrong, ill check
[10:10] <Admiral_Chicago> i have no idea then
[10:10] <Wodger> has the router given the ubuntu box a IP?
[10:10] <jstarcher> If I want to refresh the apt-cache, I just do 'sudo apt-cache gencaches' right?
[10:10] <willys_fueguino> xDD
[10:10] <dmglouis> wodger: no i keeps blocking it
[10:10] <willys_fueguino> someone, I need help 'cause ubuntu dont let me open my dvd...
[10:10] <dmglouis> wodger; *it
[10:10] <TimothyP> pff I'll change the source,s probably belgium servers that are out of sync again
[10:10] <jstarcher> If I want to refresh the apt-cache, I just do 'sudo apt-cache gencaches' right? Or is it 'sudo apt-get update'?
[10:10] <kmaynard> anon32, df -h  chack ALL partitions
[10:10] <jstarcher> *  I mean check
[10:10] <kyja> TimothyP, if you have not found it yet http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25830/
[10:11] <david83> dmglouis a password to get through the login screen on your router webserver http://router-ip?
[10:11] <dmglouis> david: oh for that thres a password
[10:11] <oblib> what does it mean when I try to rmmod a module and it says "Resource temporarily unavailable"
[10:11] <TimothyP> kyja: does automatix conflict with apt-get and current repos?
[10:11] <Wodger> what wireless security if any do you have?
[10:11] <anon32> it says size 64G, used 36G, free 25G - somehow that doesn't add up
[10:11] <kyja> no
[10:11] <TimothyP> ok
[10:11] <willys_fueguino> someone, I need help 'cause ubuntu dont let me open my dvd...
[10:11] <Paddy_EIRE> TimothyP: you're correct, although I could have sworn it found a document I had once just by entering the search, probably a different Distro and version of beagle
[10:11] <dmglouis> wodger: none
[10:11] <TimothyP> thnx
[10:11] <w30> willys_fueguino, what's on the DVD?
[10:11] <david83> yeah for connecting wired you don't need a password
[10:12] <dgags> jstarcher: sudo apt-get update # refresh apt's cache
[10:12] <TimothyP> Paddy_EIRE: normally it would, but I don't see how that would solve the current problem ;:)
[10:12] <willys_fueguino> w30, Its a live dvd of a fedora core 4 based distro...
[10:12] <anon32> willys_fueguino, do you have libdvdcss installed
[10:12] <kmaynard> anon32, rm -rf ~/pr0n
[10:12] <david83> i thought about access-control from the router that i just can be access from certain ips
[10:12] <Paddy_EIRE> TimothyP: whats the current pronlem
[10:12] <TimothyP> the latest build of beagle only searcher your personal folder, every user has it's own intance of the beagled
[10:12] <Paddy_EIRE> *problem
[10:12] <kyja> TimothyP, but after quiting automatix read it carefuly becuase it asks if you want to replace your repo list with theres or not.
[10:12] <TimothyP> the current problem is that no matter what I do I cannot locate sun-java in any of the repositories
[10:12] <david_> No ideas about changing GTK themes with beryl running
[10:12] <anon32> kmaynard, no... I don't have any pr0n (nice try though)
[10:12] <willys_fueguino> anon32, nop. I didnt use it
[10:13] <dgags> jstarcher: found it here near the bottom --> http://www.thoughtpolice.co.uk/vmware/howto/1-minute-guide.html
[10:13] <jstarcher> dgags: thank you very much
[10:13] <TimothyP> kyja I won't be ablet o use automatix
[10:13] <anon32> willys_fueguino, DVDs are encrypted, you need a decoder
[10:13] <kmaynard> rm -rf ~/warez  ?
[10:13] <TimothyP> I have to get this working for non geeks, teaching them to work with synaptic is bad enough
[10:13] <anon32> kmaynard, this is Linux, what can I warez?
[10:13] <kyja> no? TimothyP
[10:13] <Paddy_EIRE> TimothyP: beagle can index the entire root partition aswell thats how I find most files
[10:13] <anon32> no, my problem is that there's 3GB of unaccounted for data
[10:13] <ruda> k
[10:13] <TimothyP> I really need to figure out why it doesn't show up in the repos while every site on the internet says it should be in there
[10:13] <anon32> 64-36!=25
[10:14] <dgags> anon32: backup, newfs, restore.
[10:14] <willys_fueguino> anon32, I can read it (explore trough the dirs and that),but I want to get it out!! xDD
[10:14] <TimothyP> Paddy_EIRE: the repos can be search using apt-cache search and it's not in there
[10:14] <TimothyP> beagle won't do anything else for me
[10:14] <Outrunner> i need to play ragnarok online on linux... please, did anyone succeded?
[10:14] <Wodger> okay try turing off all security, so wpa/wep MAC addressing and any firewall rules if that works turn back on until it breaks
[10:14] <Paddy_EIRE> TimothyP: did you pastebin your sources list
[10:14] <anon32> dgags, mm, I don't have a second hard drive... are you sure that ext3 doesn't just have a 3GB overhead :-p?
[10:14] <kyja> TimothyP, even after a search for "java" in synaptic it does not list java5 ?
[10:14] <TimothyP> kya indeed
[10:14] <b03nto> TimothyP, u can get jre-1_5_0_09-linux-i586.bin  from here http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware_source/l/jre/
[10:14] <david83> dmglouis is the firewall enabled so you can't connect
[10:14] <TimothyP> I'll list my sources
[10:14] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[10:14] <TimothyP> b03nto:  THANK YOU :)
[10:14] <dgags> anon32: not to my knowledge.
[10:14] <willys_fueguino> anon32, I cant umount it
[10:14] <cipher||> can anybody tell me how i can access my sata-raid0 on ubuntu. it wont work out of the box :/
[10:15] <TimothyP> but I don't need the bin :)
[10:15] <anon32> damn
[10:15] <his_dudnes> anon32 :it makes sense : each file takes at lesat one inode for storing so if you have 10 files with one byte each it would take 40k o hard drive space
[10:15] <TimothyP> I'll post my sources
[10:15] <david83> dmglouis does ifconfig give you the same infos as you posted from /etc/network/interfaces?
[10:15] <willys_fueguino> someone, I need help 'cause ubuntu dont let me unmount my dvd...
[10:15] <dmglouis> daivd; yes
[10:15] <dgags> anon32: I hate to be a pain in the ass, but if your HD dies, you're smoked.
[10:15] <graft> argh... now audacity won't start
[10:15] <b03nto> d/w the bin, after that u can make deb from it
[10:15] <dmglouis> daivd: well no
[10:15] <anon32> dgags, yes... I know I should have a second
[10:15] <robbbb> right - window managers - what can you use as a standalone dock app?
[10:15] <willys_fueguino> someone, I need help 'cause ubuntu dont let me unmount my dvd...
[10:16] <b03nto> TimothyP:d/w the bin, after that u can make deb from it
[10:16] <graft> stupid gtk1.x apps
[10:16] <david83> dmglouis, a little bit longer answers please
[10:16] <dmglouis> david and wodger: thanks a lot for your help guys
[10:16] <anon32> mm, I'll just backup the smaller files to my main partition and copy the rest from my backup DVDs
[10:16] <kmaynard> willys_fueguino, sudo eject
[10:16] <dmglouis> david and wodger: i gtg
[10:16] <TimothyP> my sources : http://blogs.homelinux.org/docs/doku.php?id=sandbox
[10:16] <anon32> what's the command to delete a partition?
[10:16] <dgags> anon32: otherwise I agree, there is something flaky with 3gig missing
[10:16] <david83> dmglouis, how did it worked out?
[10:16] <TimothyP> b03nto: I know but that doesn't work either since I need the java-package package for that and that's nowhere to be found either
[10:16] <w30> willys_fueguino, some times a dvd device can get messed up and need a colc reboot to fix it. ie. uplug it from the wall.
[10:16] <TimothyP> I'm telling you something is pooching me
[10:16] <kmaynard> 3gb doesnt just disappear
[10:16] <TimothyP> http://blogs.homelinux.org/docs/doku.php?id=sandbox
[10:16] <b03nto> TimothyP : d/w the bin, after that u can make deb from it, with make-jpkg
[10:16] <TimothyP> that is my repo list
[10:16] <his_dudnes> anon32:cfdisk
[10:16] <kmaynard> there's a logical answer for it
[10:17] <david83> anon32, cfdisk /dev/hda1
[10:17] <w30> colc/cold
[10:17] <TimothyP> b03nto: I cannot find the make-jpkg package
[10:17] <david83> dmglouis, how did it worked out?
[10:17] <graft> anyone know what "Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)" means?
[10:17] <anon32> and the command to repartition my working hard drive?
[10:17] <dgags> anon32: I'd suggest a fsck, but not until you get a backup
[10:17] <elias_>  if I start an xnest session on :1 and want to start a certain app in this nest, how would I do that from the console?
[10:17] <b03nto> sudo apt-get install java-package java-common
[10:17] <willys_fueguino> w30, I fixed it that way a lot of times (trust me ;-) )
[10:17] <anon32> dgags, I have backups of around 35.1GB of it, and the rest I can copy to my Ubuntu partition
[10:17] <WinkerR> damn xubuntu sucks
[10:17] <b03nto> TimothyP: sudo apt-get install java-package java-common, its in there
[10:17] <his_dudnes> anon32 cfdisk repartions,mkfs.ext3 formats the partition
[10:17] <dgags> anon32: looking at the partitions is also a good idea as david83 points out.
[10:18] <willys_fueguino> w30, but I dont want to do that if its possible..
[10:18] <muthana_> iam have problem with applcation run http://www.5o5a.com/upload/uploads/3ab3e2451f.png
[10:18] <TimothyP> how many times must I repeat :(
[10:18] <TimothyP> java-package CANNOT BE FOUND
[10:18] <anon32> well, time to kill my partition
[10:18] <david83> !java
[10:18] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[10:18] <TimothyP> jPackage java-package is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:18] <anon32> somehow, I think gparted screwed up somewhere
[10:18] <TimothyP> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:19] <willys_fueguino> kmaynard, hello... nop. "Unmountinf failed"
[10:19] <b03nto> TimothyP: oops sorry i didnt see that
[10:19] <Paddy_EIRE> TimothyP: you could try adding whichever other sources you use to my sources.list found here -->http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25831/
[10:20] <Paddy_EIRE> TimothyP: java will be found no probs
[10:20] <david83> TimothyP sorry but try #linux they helped me with the java thing i am not sure how i got it going but know it's going you have to select the sun-Java not the open-java thing
[10:20] <TimothyP> to be honest if someone could just answer this it might helpe
[10:20] <TimothyP> where are the sun-java packages supposed to be
[10:20] <TimothyP> in what repo
[10:21] <w30> willys_fueguino, if you have the DVD file system busy it won't eject either. I make mistakes like cd to the DVD file system as user and then su to root and forget that when I leave the DVD directory as root I am still using that DVD directory as user.
[10:21] <jstarcher> anyone use Konqueror?
[10:21] <jstarcher> for web browsing
[10:21] <TimothyP> in the universe ? in the backports?
[10:21] <kyja> automatix will install java for you though. you just have to pick opon quiting if you want to keep your old rep list.
[10:21] <Paddy_EIRE> TimothyP:  also try using this guide it has never failed me http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper once there search for  How to install J2SE Runtime Environment (JRE) with Plug-in for Mozilla Firefox
[10:21] <kyja> but what ever :-)
[10:22] <POVaddct> TimothyP: multiverse
[10:22] <TimothyP> Paddy_EIRE: been there done that
[10:22] <willys_fueguino> w30, nop. Its not that (already checked)
[10:22] <TimothyP> ok POVaddct thank you
[10:22] <TimothyP> multivers = backports or is somethign different still ?
[10:22] <Paddy_EIRE> TimothyP: with that sources.list ??
[10:22] <beuno_> kmaynard, what does he mean by "Then edit the same in the pop and ssl options, if you are going to use them."
[10:22] <Paddy_EIRE> TimothyP: the one I gave you
[10:22] <JoshuaW> Hello?
[10:22] <beuno_> in the "Pop/IMAP: Courier IMAP" section
[10:22] <b03nto> TimothyP: i get java-package from this repo deb ftp://kambing.vlsm.org/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[10:22] <TimothyP> ah that's the missing link
[10:22] <willys_fueguino> Is there a way to force unmounting???
[10:22] <TimothyP> bingo
[10:23] <TimothyP> I have restricted universe
[10:23] <JoshuaW> Can someone help me? I can't find an partition manager that is good and I find it impossible to install Ubuntu :P
[10:23] <refnumzx> i would like to install the latest version of musicindex which requires some packages not in the repositories libarchive-dev the latest version of musicindex is 1.1.2 quite a bit ahead of ubuntu release, can anyone help?
[10:23] <TimothyP> I have backports multivers
[10:23] <bsdfox> why in gods name can I not play mp3s
[10:23] <TimothyP> but not restricted multivers :)
[10:23] <Paddy_EIRE> ah
[10:23] <TimothyP> that's what I wanted to know :)
[10:23] <Paddy_EIRE> nice one
[10:23] <bsdfox> I have no decoder installed? I installed libmad and libmpeg3
[10:23] <TimothyP> brb I'll try now
[10:23] <his_dudnes> qillys_fuegino:have you tried the command line?
[10:23] <b03nto> ooo..
[10:23] <dgags> bsdfox: sound works I 'spose?
[10:23] <willys_fueguino> JoshuaW, try with gparted
[10:24] <willys_fueguino> Is there a way to force unmounting???
[10:24] <bsdfox> dgags, yeah
[10:24] <JoshuaW> Would that work with Windows?
[10:24] <dgags> and you have what version of ubuntu installed?
[10:24] <his_dudnes> willys_fueguino :have tried the commnd line?
[10:24] <bsdfox> dgags, rhythmbox and totem both say no decoder installed
[10:24] <bsdfox> I have dapper
[10:25] <bsdfox> 6.06.1 or something
[10:25] <willys_fueguino> his_dudnes, sudo umount?? yeap. lsof | grep cdrom, ps aux | grep cdrom too
[10:25] <willys_fueguino> JoshuaW, theres a live cd version...
[10:25] <JoshuaW> Yeah
[10:25] <david83> bsdfox install mplayer or vlc then you get the missing codecs
[10:25] <dgags> i would take a look at easyubuntu (google it) it lets you optionally install codecs.
[10:25] <bsdfox> I'm on dialup :(
[10:26] <his_dudnes> willys :so no process is using the cd?
[10:26] <willys_fueguino> Is there a way to force unmounting???
[10:26] <willys_fueguino> his_dudnes, nop.
[10:26] <dgags> bsdfox: what does dialup have to do with getting codecs?
[10:26] <willys_fueguino> his_dudnes, unlees that I tried with the worng command...
[10:27] <TimothyP> bingo that was it :)
[10:27] <Solveneq> are there any java ides which arent on the stupid project system?
[10:27] <TimothyP> hehe
[10:27] <bsdfox> dgags, downloading mplayer is a task
[10:27] <TimothyP> it was so simple
[10:27] <jtholmes> willys_fueguino: what r u trying to unmount
[10:27] <TimothyP> there's restricted multiverse and backports multiverse and I had it in backports but not restricted
[10:27] <TimothyP> :)
[10:28] <dgags> bsdfox: I can understyand that. but I do not think there is a much better solution at the moment.
[10:28] <willys_fueguino> jtholmes, sudo umount /media/cdrom
[10:28] <willys_fueguino> jtholmes, sudo umount -f /media/cdrom
[10:28] <bsdfox> ok
[10:28] <jtholmes> willys_fueguino: r u sure   you r not cd'
[10:28] <jtholmes> willys_fueguino: into it
[10:29] <jtholmes> willys_fueguino: i.e. hav u been using it
[10:29] <willys_fueguino> jtholmes, completely. Not in nauthilus, or in term (not as user or root)
[10:29] <__zer0__> guys i have a rather strange problem after using ubuntu's update.. my screen is 'dark'.. its fine upuntil it gets to GDM, ..and the X cursor is fine, but the rest of the screen is dark
[10:29] <Zaggynl> I just put a script in my nautilus-scripts directory and made it executable and whatnot (755), but it doesn't appear when I right click
[10:29] <dgags> bsdfox: take a look at here: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/overview.html
[10:30] <willys_fueguino> jtholmes, I been using it but now Im not.
[10:30] <jtholmes> willys_fueguino: ok since is i a cdrom just use the  paper clip method
[10:30] <__zer0__> its like the same color dark as when the dialog that asks admin password pops up
[10:30] <jtholmes> willys_fueguino: since it is a cd rom use the paper clip method
[10:31] <willys_fueguino> jtholmes, its a dvd :-
[10:31] <refnumzx> i would like to install the latest version of musicindex which requires some packages not in the repositories libarchive-dev the latest version of musicindex is 1.1.2 quite a bit ahead of ubuntu release, can anyone help?
[10:31] <gandalfcome> webmin isn't in the dapper server repos. what do you guys suggest as a frontend admin on a server with no X. thanks in advance
[10:32] <dgags> gandalfcome: ssh-server
[10:32] <jtholmes> willys_fueguino: no matter,  however  fuser -km  /media/...  will kill all procs accessing that  dvd
[10:32] <jtholmes> willys_fueguino:  fuser -km  /media/cdrom
[10:32] <dgags> gandalfcome: you can do the rest from command line
[10:33] <gandalfcome> dgags: yes but I don't wanna setup everything by hand. does ubuntu have something like yast (suse)
[10:34] <dgags> gandalfcome: hmm, still learning myself. I think apt-get has an option to do setup once a package is installed, maybe you can use that?
[10:34] <willys_fueguino> jtholmes, nope. Stills saying "Device bussy"
[10:34] <refnumzx> willys umount -l
[10:34] <Samushka> problem: i manually configured (successfully) to have both my monitors working in DUAL HEAD mode on my Geforce 6600GT... my problem is, the screens are switched... in other words, the monitor on the left is displaying the workspace on the right, and vice versa
[10:34] <bsdfox> dgags, thanks I am installing it now
[10:34] <gandalfcome> dgags: why not webmin?
[10:35] <jtholmes> willys_fueguino: well  something has it  just use the  paper clip method to eject the DVD and it will be unmounted
[10:35] <bsdfox> Samushka, it's a known bug, nvidia blames X, X blames nvidia so neither of them fix it
[10:35] <gandalfcome> dgags: If i install manually? (webmin)
[10:35] <Samushka> any way to fix it?
[10:35] <txoof> Where does apache2 stor its configuration files in ubuntu?  I need to tweak a few things and I can't seem to find httpd.conf in /etc/apache2.
[10:36] <bsdfox> Samushka, not that I could find and I tried hard
[10:36] <dgags> gandalfcome: I have not used webmin, but I am biased against it. Not having done much work with it I do not know it very well, but something about changing the configuration of a server from a browser gives me the chills.
[10:36] <Samushka> how do i completely disable my CRT ?
[10:36] <kyja> Samushka, move one monitor to the other side of the other one.
[10:36] <txoof> Samushka: un plug it.
[10:37] <fraroco> Hello everybody I want to mount a partition of windows how can I make it?
[10:37] <dgags> txoof: may be a bit of a sledgehammer but you can try: find . -name httpd.conf
[10:37] <Samushka> i tried that, X still tries to display it on that monitor,
[10:37] <Powerbook`> in my apache server, how do I make it so i can type my ip address and see the page, right now only localhost does it
[10:37] <txoof> dgags: yeah, I found some examples and /usr/share/apache/default-donfigs/apache/httpd.conf
[10:37] <jtholmes> willys_fueguino: are u familiar w/the paper clip method
[10:37] <willys_fueguino> refnumzx, at last. umount -l and sudo eject
[10:38] <txoof> dgags: I just don't know if those are the ones that are used.  I don't see any links from /etc/apache2.
[10:38] <refnumzx> yup
[10:38] <dgags> txoof: typo in there, it should read: find / -name httpd.conf
[10:38] <Samushka> but it doesnt maek sence, when i had NOVELL LINUX 10 installed... it worked fine (mind you, novell had their own config panel to manage displays)
[10:38] <dgags> txoof: have you looked at the init script?
[10:38] <txoof> dgags: yeah, I got it.
[10:38] <willys_fueguino> jtholmes, yeap. XDDD But never worked... makes a really strange noise and then I reboot.
[10:38] <gandalfcome> dgags: so you would configure all by hand? another question: I wanna just dump files on my server(no complex permissions). what should I use : nfs or samba
[10:38] <txoof> dgags: no, I'll look there now.
[10:38] <dgags> txoof: should be in /etc/init.d
[10:39] <refnumzx> i would like to install the latest version of musicindex which requires some packages not in the repositories libarchive-dev the latest version of musicindex is 1.1.2 quite a bit ahead of ubuntu release, can anyone help?
[10:39] <b03nto> Powerbook`: /etc/hosts maybe...
[10:39] <dgags> gandalfcome: do you want it to be a fileserver? or is this a one time dump?
[10:39] <jtholmes> willys_fueguino: the dvd  door should have popped open a bit and the noise is the dvd spinning on plastic tray
[10:39] <jazzrocker> kmaynard, i flashed my bios and everything is all good :)
[10:39] <jazzrocker> kmaynard, yay for 2G of RAM!
[10:39] <robbbb> now then. can i run a vmware session on one pc, but have it display on another?
[10:39] <jazzrocker> kmaynard, i did have to buy a new floppy drive to do so :(
[10:40] <dgags> robbbb: certainly
[10:40] <jtholmes> willys_fueguino: you need a heavy paper clip and push quite hard
[10:40] <willys_fueguino> jtholmes, I did it. It was sudo umount -l and then sudo eject
[10:40] <robbbb> how do i go about doing that ?
[10:40] <dgags> robbbb: gimme a sec. i need to find the link
[10:40] <willys_fueguino> jtholmes, Im familiar with that but I never liked it :-
[10:40] <robbbb> cool cheers
[10:40] <gandalfcome> dgags: fileserver
[10:40] <jazzrocker> kmaynard, but my old one was white, my case is black, and this floppy is black too... so now my case matches finally! :)
[10:40] <jtholmes> willys_fueguino: ok
[10:41] <txoof> dgags: it's /etc/apache2/apache2.conf in case you cared.
[10:41] <dgags> gandalfcome: will the clients be windows primarily? then use samba, if they are unix use nfs.
[10:41] <willys_fueguino> thanxxx a lot guys...
[10:41] <Samushka> bsdfox: did u try the: 	Screen		1 "Default Screen2" LeftOf "Default Screen" (command?)
[10:41] <willys_fueguino> bytes!!
[10:41] <dgags> txoof: sweet. glad you found it
[10:42] <WillItWork> So here's somethign for people here:  I have a major fileserver, and I've supposedly joined it the the company's Active Directory domain
[10:42] <WillItWork> I'm using winbind, but wbinfo -u fails
[10:42] <gandalfcome> dgags: I tried to install nfs once it sort of worked (i couldnt write to the nfs dir) is there a graphical nfs mounter for my client to connect to the server?
[10:43] <dgags> robbbb: read this: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server
[10:43] <WillItWork> gandalfcome: how did you format /etc/exports?
[10:43] <dgags> robbbb: there;'s a bit of a learning curve, but once you figure it out, it rocks.
[10:43] <anon32> what the hell, I reformated and there was still 5GB missing disk space
[10:43] <anon32> someone care to help me?
[10:44] <robbbb> cool
[10:44] <WillItWork> anon32: how big is the hd, and are there any other partitions?
[10:44] <gandalfcome> willitwork: /srv/movies 192.168.0.1/24(rw,no_root_squash,async)
[10:44] <dgags> gandalfcome: not to my knowledge. Most of everything I have ever done was from the command line using vi.
[10:44] <bsdfox> Samushka, yeah.. there isn't a wayu to distinguish between the DFP or the CRT though
[10:44] <bsdfox> it might work with two CRTs actually
[10:45] <anon32> WillItWork, 74.5GB, 4 partitions (50MB unknown FAT partition, 65 GB ext3, 9 GB ext3, and 800MB swap)
[10:45] <gandalfcome> dgags: okay I think I will decend in linux hell then :-) thanks a lot for your help
[10:45] <robbbb> dgags: that seems to show installing it. i've already got it installed and running, but just want to move the display to another computer
[10:45] <robbbb> if poss
[10:45] <Samushka> bsdbox: check the last post @ http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=77392
[10:45] <WillItWork> gandalfcome: try maybe 192.168.0.*?  The CIDR notation may or not work.  the rw option plus no root squash SHOULD work...
[10:45] <dgags> gandalfcome: who owns /srv/movies, and what are the permissions? (ls -la in that dir and look fir the DOT . <---
[10:46] <gandalfcome> willitwork: the problem seems to be that the uid on the server and the client should match is that true
[10:46] <jstarcher> how can I bind my mouse keys for konqueror?
[10:46] <dgags> robbbb: gimme a sec
[10:46] <jtholmes> anon32: what is missing
[10:46] <Luci3n> hi i have some problems with my headphones can anyone help??
[10:46] <WillItWork> anon32:  You know about rounding right?
[10:46] <anon32> jtholmes, about 65GB
[10:46] <anon32> WillItWork, those are all in binary bytes
[10:46] <__zer0__> Has anyone ever experienced ubuntu's screen being really Dim?
[10:47] <gandalfcome> willitwork: do filesystem permissions matter for nfs or is it just the nfsdaemon that will mount it
[10:47] <jtholmes> anon32: 65gb  is missing
[10:47] <__zer0__> the loading screen is fine.. but once i get into the login screen, it goes dim
[10:47] <jstarcher> how can I bind my mouse keys for konqueror?
[10:47] <anon32> jtholmes, oops, about 5GB, sorry
[10:47] <jstarcher> xbindkeys?
[10:47] <dgags> robbbb: ok check it out. I'll guess you have a windows box you want to display it on, but vmware server is on the linux box. You need to install VMWARE Player on the windows box.
[10:47] <mwe> anon32: are you aware that hdd vendors usually define a KB as 1000 bytes whereas computers define it as 1024 bytes?
[10:47] <gandalfcome> dgags:the problem seems to be that the uid on the server and the client should match is that true
[10:48] <anon32> mwe, I already converted the decimal bytes to binary ones
[10:48] <peteweez> Does anyone know of a SOCKS proxy server that has built-in encryption (i.e. no need to use ssh or stunnel)?  Is such a thing possible given the protocol definition?
[10:48] <jtholmes> anon32: that is about correct for that size drive  there is you never get the entire disk there is native formating  info that takes up some space that u cant use
[10:48] <mwe> anon32: oh
[10:48] <robbbb> dgags: i want the processing to run on one pc (linux) and the display to be on another (also linux)
[10:48] <WillItWork> jtholmes: really?  My math got 74.8 gb... although out of an 80 gig drive....
[10:48] <dgags> robbbb: and make sure the webser piece is on the linux box. That's why I pointed you to that howto. It should have all the setups you need to do remote display.
[10:48] <anon32> jtholmes, but 5GB?
[10:48] <gandalfcome> dgags: do filesystem permissions matter for nfs ?
[10:48] <his_dudnes> peteweez tor/privoxy is that and much more check it out
[10:48] <anon32> that's 1/16 of the drive
[10:48] <dgags> gandalfcome: absolutely true, they HAVE to match.
[10:49] <jstarcher> how can I bind my mouse keys for konqueror?
[10:49] <WillItWork> gandalfcome: AFAIK, yes, nfs authenticates the user who logs in
[10:49] <Admiral_Chicago> gandalfcome: no becausi it'll be RO
[10:49] <graft> anon32: you sure it's actually 80gigs?
[10:49] <Luci3n> I've looked in the faqs and had no luck is seems to be a problem configuring mynsound card correctly
[10:49] <graft> anon32: how many blocks on it,e tc.?
[10:49] <burgermann> Hi! Since Dapper I've been having trouble with my USB, which appearantly is because of some interruptfailure. The solution is disabling ACPI on boot up, but I don't know how. So what option is nessecary to disable ACPI?
[10:49] <jtholmes> anon32: ok i thought the size was 74 but even if 80gb that is not too bad do you know how to use  fdisk
[10:49] <peteweez> his_dudnes: I know about that, and it's -almost- what I need...but I want to host the server myself...tor has a very high latency.  But it is a wonderful program.
[10:49] <gandalfcome> Admiral_Chicago: what do you mean?
[10:49] <WillItWork> gandalfcome: and applies those permissions, so if nobody logs in, he won't be able to write--and neither will anyone logging in as him.
[10:49] <anon32> graft, it's 74.5GB, the partition is 65GB, but it tells me there's 5GB more space on there than I have data
[10:49] <Admiral_Chicago> nevermind
[10:49] <robbbb> yeah the webserver part of vmware is pretty lame
[10:49] <anon32> 5GB more used space*
[10:50] <dgags> gandalfcome: don't forget, you have to export RW (read-write) but also mount it RW too on the other server and make sure UID's match, and perms are ok
[10:50] <jtholmes> anon32: use fdisk and paste it so i  can look at it
[10:50] <anon32> jtholmes, err, won't fdisk delete my partition?
[10:50] <WillItWork> Does anyone here have experience with winbind?
[10:50] <graft> anon32: ah, on the partition, you're worried about? that's not surprising
[10:50] <bsdfox> anon32, 8% might be reserved for root
[10:50] <WillItWork> anon32: NO!
[10:51] <gandalfcome> willitwork: so for e.g. a movies storage which many people should be able to access i have to set the permissions to 777?
[10:51] <bsdfox> I know freebsd defaults to that
[10:51] <jtholmes> anon32: no  fdisk  /dev/hdXX   then   p  for print  then q for exit  then paste
[10:51] <graft> anon32: often the amount of space used by files is not exactly the same as that reported, since some empty space in blocks can't be reclaimed for other uses
[10:51] <WillItWork> gandalfcome: nah... all they should need is read access.. which I believe you said worked...
[10:51] <dgags> gandalfcome: set it to 777 if you want them to be ab;e to write into the dir too, or put them in a group and handle it via group permissions
[10:51] <JFreakCapo> hello everybody
[10:51] <graft> anon32: so, there's a difference between "usable" free space and "technically" free space
[10:51] <anon32> graft, the thing is, after I freshly formated it, there was still a missing 5GB
[10:52] <WillItWork> gandalfcome: they may need execute?  but either way, yeah, you have the idea
[10:52] <gandalfcome> dgags: so I have the same username on the too machines but probable not the same uid, right? how do I do that
[10:52] <dgags> gandalfcome: incidentally, group id's need to match (numerically) from system to system too when using nfs
[10:53] <graft> anon32: oh. um, so you created a 65G partition, and what reports only 60G?
[10:53] <JFreakCapo> how see what device is mounting in /media/usbdisk ?? /dev/xxx
[10:53] <WillItWork> gandalfcome: personally I am fond of 755
[10:53] <anon32> graft, yea, it reports 60GB free, but all the partition lists report 65GB size partition
[10:53] <dgags> gandalfcome: easiest way for you to do it would be just delete the old user (if feasible)... tbc
[10:53] <GTX> ase
[10:53] <graft> anon32: what reports 60GB free?
[10:53] <WillItWork> cause it's ext3
[10:53] <__zer0__> Does anyone have any idea why my ubuntu (Dapper.. just updated today) goes really DIM after it gets to the login screen? its really dark and it didnt happen until I ran the update tool
[10:53] <anon32> graft, nautilus, everything, etc
[10:54] <__zer0__> everything is Dim
[10:54] <WillItWork> anon32: you did standard ext3 format?
[10:54] <anon32> WillItWork, I used gparted
[10:54] <dgags> gandalfcome: and re-create the user. If you know the numeric uid, do a useradd -u 1234 username
[10:54] <graft> anon32: what does df say?
[10:54] <gandalfcome> dgags: is there any possibility to use nfs as a dump share, where everyone can read and write?
[10:54] <anon32> graft, 65GB, 0GB used, 60GB free
[10:54] <graft> anon32: in blocks?
[10:54] <WillItWork> anon32:  my bet- you're losing it to inodes.
[10:54] <gandalfcome> dgags: learned something: I didnt know that I can give users a uid
[10:54] <anon32> graft, how can I get it to report that?
[10:55] <graft> anon32: df by itself should report in blocks
[10:55] <anon32> WillItWork, explanation
[10:55] <WillItWork> gandalfcome: hehe, every user has a uid
[10:55] <dgags> gandalfcome: it depends on how many folks we're talking about here
[10:55] <anon32> graft, oh, I df -h'ed
[10:55] <gandalfcome> lets say just for the fun of it 5
[10:55] <dgags> willitWork: i don';t think he realized you could set it to whatever you like.
[10:55] <WillItWork> anon32: with ext3, every given x blocks is a special block called an inode which describes the contents of other blocks
[10:55] <dgags> gandalfcome: then I would do this:
[10:56] <anon32> are there alternative filesystems that I can use instead of ext3?
[10:56] <WillItWork> anon32: certain types use more inodes than others
[10:56] <his_dudnes> annon32 you can get more than  lost space with a gmail account .i ll send you an invitation if you want :P
[10:56] <anon32> WillItWork, hmm..
[10:56] <anon32> his_dudnes, lol
[10:56] <v3l0ct> I think in ext3 1 inode = 4096 bytes
[10:56] <dgags> gandalfcome: do a groupadd -u 1500 movies
[10:56] <gandalfcome> okay
[10:56] <WillItWork> anon32: I suggest reiser or xfs for a partition that size, or use largeblock wich give more space per inode
[10:56] <WillItWork> BRB
[10:56] <wildchild> how do I install plug-ins for cam and mic for aMSN ?
[10:57] <dgags> gandalfcome: please wait to run these commands as I am unsure that they are syntactically correct!
[10:57] <Parisi> What is a good media player ala Itunes for Ubuntu? Opinions?
[10:57] <dgags> egads... i can't type fast enough
[10:57] <anon32> Parisi, mplayer or VLC
[10:57] <his_dudnes> WillItWork :for small files a smaller inode size is better i think
[10:57] <kitche> v4l0ct: you can make the inode any size in ext3 but I think ubuntu goes by 4096
[10:57] <gandalfcome> dgags: simple question in xchat which you are probably using how can I get the program to put your name in front of something I write (without having to type "dgags:")?
[10:57] <Parisi> anon32, I use xmms for playing, but i i mean something to organize my library of files.
[10:58] <v3l0ct> Parisi: a la iTunes --> rhythmbox, banshee or quodlibet
[10:58] <anon32> Parisi, there's rythmbox
[10:58] <THX-1138> Backspace?
[10:58] <his_dudnes> WillItWork :i alsow think inode size can be set fo ext3 during format with mkfs
[10:58] <kitche> v3l0t: that is sorry misspelled your nick
[10:58] <Parisi> Is there anything as "eye candy" ?
[10:58] <Samuli^> !restrictedformats
[10:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:58] <robbbb> how would i go about building a new linux box and installing all the packages i've got on this on the 2nd?
[10:58] <anon32> I just reformated as ReiserFS and got 65.02 free :-)
[10:58] <dgags> gandalfcome: I'm actually on an xp box running leafChat at the moment, and I use the tab key after I put in a few chars of your nick
[10:58] <gandalfcome> dgags: if you show me the how to do it theoretically i will figure it out (hopefully:)
[10:58] <v3l0ct> kitche: the default is 4096 for ext3 unless specified differently
[10:58] <kitche> v3l0ct: yes as
[10:58] <Khmnh> 5151515151???
[10:58] <mwe> !tab > gandalfcome
[10:59] <THX-1138> gandalfcome:nickcomepletion = backspace?
[10:59] <anon32> is there any specific problem with ReiserFS that keeps it from being the default?
[10:59] <v3l0ct> kitche: i know :)
[10:59] <gandalfcome> dgags, that works here too
[10:59] <kitche> v3l0ct: as I said you can change it
[10:59] <v3l0ct> kitche: I know that
[10:59] <gandalfcome> thanks guys: TAB WORKS :)
[10:59] <robbbb> how would i go about building a new linux box and installing all the packages i've got on this on the 2nd?
[10:59] <dgags> gandalfcome: cool beans, let's move on, shall we?
[10:59] <rlared> does it make sense to run the 686 kernel if i have an athlon xp and the k7 one is buggy?
[10:59] <gandalfcome> dgags, sure
[10:59] <v3l0ct> kitche: you can set it to either 2048 or 1024
[11:00] <anon32> robbbb, create a hard disk image and write it to your second
[11:00] <daryl_> Whats the command I type in a terminal to determine what Kernel i'm using?
[11:00] <axp> hi all
[11:00] <robbbb> yeah it's different hardware
[11:00] <WillItWork> non32: mostly religion I think.
[11:00] <anon32> daryl_, uname -r
[11:00] <his_dudnes> daryl : cat /proc/version
[11:00] <dgags> gandalfcome: ok, the gist is, add a group like like this: groupadd -g 2500 movies
[11:00] <jbmigel> robbbb get a list of installed packages and pipe it into apt-get
[11:00] <bsdfox> rlared: sure
[11:00] <robbbb> how do i do that then?
[11:00] <kitche> v3l0ct: I know I have mine set as default but I don't use ext3 or reiser for my system well atleats on my second hard drive I don't
[11:00] <dgags> gandalfcome: then cd to /srv/movies
[11:00] <axp> i wnt to install other locales on ubuntu but no go ;) i did a dpkg-reconfigure locales and still no luck!
[11:00] <mwe> rlared: the k7 kernel is buggy?
[11:00] <robbbb> is there a list in a file somewhere?
[11:01] <v3l0ct> only thing is reiserFS is not being maintained anymore and xfs has a drawback of being unable to retreat deleted files.  Ext3 is still the best unless someone comes out iwht something better
[11:01] <axp> any help out there?
[11:01] <jbmigel> robbbb let me google that for you
[11:01] <THX-1138> gandalfcome: try control+k for some nice tricks in most clients for bold, color, underline, etc.
[11:01] <dgags> gandalfcome: do a chgrp -r movies *
[11:01] <robbbb> does ubuntu work well on core duo processors?
[11:01] <rlared> mwe: i get a lot more programs hanging when i use the k7, particularly with crossover office (uses wine)
[11:01] <anon32> man, how come Ubuntu firefox doesn't have any of those navigation shortcuts (e.g. google wp dict)?
[11:01] <dgags> gandalfcome: Crap. it's a capital R... do a chgrp -R movies *
[11:01] <axp> i just have console and no X so no funny klick software
[11:01] <v3l0ct> robbbb: it's a liveCD so you can check it easily ;)
[11:01] <jbmigel> robbbb everything works well with duo processors... just use a smp kernel
[11:01] <rlared> bsdfox: will there be performance gains from using 686 instead of 386?  is it more likely to be less stable?
[11:01] <robbbb> cool
[11:02] <his_dudnes> v3l0ct:i thought that you cant undelete in ext3 neither...
[11:02] <gandalfcome> dgags, yeah im mostly sure about the syntax
[11:02] <anon32> rlared, it depends on your memory requirements
[11:02] <v3l0ct> his_dudnes: you can retrieve deleted data in ext3
[11:02] <robbbb> glx works well with intel video chipsets as well yea?
[11:02] <anon32> if you want more than 4GB memory, you need a 64bit kernel
[11:02] <bsdfox> rlared, minor performance gains, no instability increase
[11:02] <Aranel> Hey, does anyone know exactly when the final release of Edgy is coming out? Dapper wouldn't install on my computer (I tried pretty much everything), so I want to see if Edgy will.
[11:02] <v3l0ct> rlared: slight difference
[11:02] <peteweez> Does anyone know of a SOCKS proxy server that has built-in encryption (i.e. no need to use ssh or stunnel)?  Is such a thing possible given the protocol definition?
[11:02] <bsdfox> 386 is only for compatibility
[11:02] <gandalfcome> dgags, a user can have more than one group (like in ntfs)?
[11:02] <dgags> gandalfcome: then edit the /etc/group file (don't know if there's a sys util to modify it) and add each username to the movies lines like so:
[11:02] <v3l0ct> rlared: it's as stable as any other
[11:03] <jtholmes> !release
[11:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[11:03] <kitche> peteweez: tor
[11:03] <rlared> ok. . . i don't know why i am having problems with the k7 one
[11:03] <his_dudnes> v3l0ct:have you got a URL to point me to?
[11:03] <jtholmes> !edgy
[11:03] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[11:03] <peteweez> kitche: not what I'm looking for, but it's a good prog
[11:03] <v3l0ct> his_dudnes: let me look
[11:03] <jtholmes> !release
[11:03] <rlared> but come to think of it, gentoo had problems with the athlon kernel also. . . maybe the code is messed up or something
[11:03] <dgags> gandalfcome: movies:x:2500:dgags,gandal,Willitwork     etc....
[11:03] <graft> !schedule
[11:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[11:03] <peteweez> kitche: I want something I can host from my computer, and operate a private proxy
[11:03] <robbbb> !fuckoff
[11:03] <jtholmes> thank you went all  around it
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fuckoff - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <__zer0__> Can anyone help me with my screen being so Dim? My Ubuntu was running fine until I applied the recent updates... now after the bootprogress bar my screen is Dim (nothing is wrong with my monitor)
[11:03] <Aranel> Thanks
[11:04] <gandalfcome> dgags, what does :x:2500 mean>
[11:04] <kitche> peteweez: yes tor can do that if you set it as a server
[11:04] <gandalfcome> dgags, what does :x:2500 mean?
[11:04] <bsdfox> haha
[11:04] <peteweez> kitche: but that does the public tor network
[11:04] <peteweez> I want my own proxy
[11:04] <peteweez> self-contained
[11:04] <axp> no help here ?!?
[11:04] <jstarcher> yes
[11:04] <jstarcher> there is
[11:04] <jstarcher> what is the query
[11:04] <kitche> peteweez: last tiem I knew you could set a private tor server up
[11:04] <bz0b> Can someone tell me what the command is to stop startup programs?
[11:04] <dermdaly> anyone available to help troubleshoot Wireless ?
[11:04] <dgags> gandalfcome: hold on a sec... phone call
[11:05] <bz0b> e.g. network-manager-gnome
[11:05] <peteweez> kitche: Oh really?  I was unaware...I'll check.  Thanks.
[11:05] <gandalfcome> dgags, sure
[11:05] <jtholmes> !wireless
[11:05] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:05] <jbmigel> robbbb http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=564
[11:05] <jstarcher> bz0b: killall
[11:05] <bz0b> jstarcher: i mean like it runs at startup
[11:05] <v3l0ct> his_dudnes: you can start here, anything else use google "google is your friend"  javascript:openExternal('https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2005-March/msg01665.html')
[11:05] <bz0b> jstarcher: how do i prevent it from running at startup
[11:05] <jstarcher> oh
[11:05] <robbbb> jbmigel: thanks for that
[11:06] <jstarcher> what WM are you on
[11:06] <jbmigel> robbbb np
[11:06] <v3l0ct> his_dudnes: you can start here, anything else use google "google is your friend"  https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2005-March/msg01665.html
[11:06] <bz0b> jstarcher: gnome
[11:06] <peteweez> kitche: yeah that'd work, but it's not much better than using stunnel...I just want something where the clients can just point their browser to my proxy and get encryption without installing any extra software to support said encryption.
[11:06] <v3l0ct> his_dudnes: it's not as simple as ext2 but it can be done
[11:06] <jstarcher> bz0b: there should be a GUI in the admin menu somewhere
[11:06] <kitche> peteweez: ah ok I think Squid can do it as well but I never used Squid
[11:07] <dgags> gandalfcome: that represents what the line would look like
[11:07] <robbbb> so what would you say is the major advantages of linux over windows?
[11:07] <his_dudnes> v3l0ct:thanks a lot althow the pain i suffered wont heal  :)
[11:07] <Tailsfan> Question, What is the difference between the server and regualr editons of Ubuntu besides the File sizes
[11:07] <anon32> gah, why is the default access path for drives /boot?
[11:07] <badock> hello all
[11:07] <peteweez> kitche: checked that too, but I don't think that'll do it...thanks for caring tho.
[11:07] <Zarephath> Is there anyway to cd during a ftp session with a folder name like Japanese landscapes? I tried single quotes...it doesn't like that...
[11:07] <kitche> Tailsfan: the server edition installs no Gui by default
[11:07] <THX-1138> robbbb: Nothing wrong with free as in freedom to tweak it 'til it suits you.
[11:07] <gandalfcome> dgags, sure I mean what does the x and the 2500 stand for?
[11:08] <bz0b> jstarcher: nope i already checked
[11:08] <badock> is there a way to obain the list of all the packages i've installed, and with the date of the installation ?
[11:08] <peteweez> yeah you can ssh tunnel into squid, but again, that requires users to install putty or ssh
[11:08] <robbbb> anyone else?
[11:08] <bz0b> does anyone know the CLI command for turning off startup programs
[11:08] <gandalfcome> dgags, so nfs looks for uid or groupid
[11:08] <anon32> I formated back to ext3 so I could run df for diagnosing my previous problem
[11:08] <Tailsfan> Well with the file size, Is there a way to install the server with a GUI
[11:08] <anon32> /dev/sda2             67108372    131228  63568152   1% /media/Documents
[11:09] <Zarephath> bz0b: You could sudo apt-cache search *.* >> myfilename
[11:09] <THX-1138> Zarephath: Having trouble with spaces in the folder name?  folder\ name
[11:09] <dgags> gandalfcome: the x is where the password would have been in many years past, and the 2500 is the numeric GID you assigned with the groupadd -g 2500 movies line
[11:09] <anon32> so, can anyone explain why 4.6GB are missing?
[11:09] <jstarcher> bz0b: one sec
[11:09] <Zarephath> THX-1138: Yep..however this is during ftp..
[11:09] <kitche> Tailsfan: yes after you install you can apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop
[11:09] <jbmigel> anon32 are you sure you have a 65GB drive?
[11:09] <Tailsfan> Because I only have a limited amount of space for a dual-boot
[11:10] <THX-1138> Zarephath: try %20 maybe?
[11:10] <anon32> jbmigel, I have a 74.5GB drive, that's a 65GB partition
[11:10] <Zarephath> THX-1138: Huh? cd %20
[11:10] <gandalfcome> dgags, I mean isnt it kind of a security risk if only the id have too match? I can't recall that I had to put in a password when i mounted ntfs
[11:10] <__zer0__> Ive got a serious problem since I updated with Ubuntu's updater, and now my screen is VERY dim? It only goes dim after I get past the Loading screen, and even when its dim, the X cursor is light
[11:10] <his_dudnes> anon32 :the  gnome stole it ...
[11:10] <bsdfox> anon32, I told you already, there is a certain amount set aside for root to use
[11:11] <dgags> gandalfcome: yes it is.
[11:11] <lluka> hey can someone help me with my fstab, im trying to make it read write for user 1000
[11:11] <THX-1138> Zarephath: to replace any spaces in the file%20name
[11:11] <v3l0ct> his_dudnes: np :)
[11:11] <anon32> so, I have a choice between ext2, ext3, ReiserFS, and XFS
[11:11] <anon32> which one?
[11:11] <wildchild> whywon't install easycam or easycam2 despite I added deb file into my /etc/apt/source.list and update it :S
[11:11] <anon32> bsdfox, and how do I fix that?
[11:11] <gandalfcome> okay so what is there a better way?
[11:11] <dgags> gandalfcome: that's why folks don't nfs over the internet, just in offices behind firewalls
[11:11] <kitche> bsdfox: umm actually it's not set aside it's usually part of / in the /root directory
[11:12] <gandalfcome> dgags, okay so the best way would be...?
[11:12] <Zarephath> THX-1138: Thanks....I did it the first way you showed me...I just didn't put a space betwee \ name the first time...
[11:12] <bsdfox> it's a security measure so no user can lock up the system by filling the disks
[11:12] <kmaynard> nfs rules my home network
[11:12] <jstarcher> bz0b: this should be the file /etc/inittab
[11:12] <Tailsfan> and another question about the server install, does that installation include the programs that the regular Ubuntu includes
[11:12] <penguinone_> hello
[11:12] <anon32> so, using a non-ext filesystem fixes my problem, but which do I choose, XFS, Reiser, or JFS?
[11:12] <kmaynard> Tailsfan, like what?
[11:12] <bsdfox> kitche, at least on freebsd the default install reserves 8% of (I think) every partition for root
[11:12] <paolob-parroquia> hi guys! how much ram does the standard ubuntu kernel support ?
[11:12] <anon32> anyone offer a solution?
[11:12] <bsdfox> or a certain percent at least
[11:12] <dgags> gandalfcome: well, there's a way to run nfs in a tunneled SSH session...
[11:12] <Tailsfan> GIMP, OOo for example
[11:12] <dermdaly> Havin trouble with prism54, islsm, ndiswrapper, etc.  Anyone up on this
[11:12] <kmaynard> paolob-parroquia, as much as your hardware can handle
[11:13] <bsdfox> anon32, I've always gotten along with reiserfs
[11:13] <dgags> gandalfcome: but every level you add just increases complexity.
[11:13] <v3l0ct> paolob-parroquia: up to 4Gb i would assume
[11:13] <bsdfox> probably not on /home
[11:13] <paolob-parroquia> kmaynard, I have 4 G, but the kernel only see 3. What could be the problem?
[11:13] <gandalfcome> dgags, okay i see
[11:13] <bz0b> Zarephath: ok, for instance, I installed network-manager-gnome, and whenever i boot my p.c. its gui starts up with it, how do i turn off that program from starting up
[11:14] <v3l0ct> paolob-parroquia: maybe is just 1GB, you would have to recompile for it to support more
[11:14] <dgags> gandalfcome: folks that do sys-admin for a living make good scratch, because most problems are like yours. DEEP.
[11:14] <Juhaz> anon32, you can change the amount of reserved space with tune2fs
[11:14] <bz0b> Zarephath: am i being specific enough
[11:14] <anon32> Juhaz, is that included?
[11:14] <paolob-parroquia> v3l0ct, doesn't exist in ubuntu a kernel that support more ram?
[11:14] <Juhaz> sure
[11:14] <gandalfcome> dgags, next question:D is it possible to run samba without knowing the users, so that everyone including unknwn persons can drop something in that
[11:14] <paolob-parroquia> v3l0ct, no, that's wrong, because I see 3 G
[11:14] <jstarcher> bz0b: your talking about the linux equivalent to 'msconfig' am I right?
[11:14] <dgags> gandalfcome: it's not just, click here, click there and you're done. There's always a trade off for functionality.
[11:15] <v3l0ct> paolob-parroquia: have you looked?
[11:15] <bz0b> jstarcher: yes, but in shell
[11:15] <paolob-parroquia> v3l0ct, Mem:       2981636    2735024     246612          0     258704    2052784
[11:15] <v3l0ct> paolob-parroquia: i'm not wrong, if you have high mem support you would see 4
[11:15] <dgags> gandalfcome: I'm much less versed in samba, but I do believe there is a concept of guest users that would accomplish what you're asking.
[11:15] <__zer0__> My screen has become very dark after I used ubuntu's updater? Is there some program that controls Screen Dimming?
[11:15] <gandalfcome> dgags, i know that but im trying to learn linux so I can get the functionality i need
[11:15] <bz0b> jstarcher: i have done it before, i just forgot what the command was, since i haven't used linux in about 5 months
[11:15] <jbmigel> paolob-parroquia: 32bit chips are restricted to 3.2GB ram.. ref http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=300277
[11:16] <anon32> how much is 852248 blocks?
[11:16] <v3l0ct> paolob-parroquia: recompile high mem support in the kernel unless you find one in synaptic
[11:16] <gandalfcome> dgags, okay perfect. thanks a lot I learned much, hope I didnt go on your nerves too much ;-) thanks again
[11:16] <paolob-parroquia> jbmigel, do you mean I won't ever see 4G, whatever kernel I put?
[11:16] <kmaynard> paolob-parroquia, linux is only limited by your hardware as far as ram support
[11:16] <dgags> gandalfcome: learning is good. I don't want you to think I'm coming down on you for that, I just have a knack for stating the obvious at times :)
[11:16] <gandalfcome> dgags, sure no worries
[11:17] <kmaynard> if your mobo supports a full 4, you'll get a full 4
[11:17] <jbmigel> paolob-parroquia: the kernel has to reserve some address space for pci cards and network interfaces... get a 64bit cpu if you need more than 3.2
[11:17] <jstarcher> bz0b: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_run_programs_on_startup_when_login_into_GNOME
[11:17] <kmaynard> otherwise, you're sol
[11:17] <jstarcher> bz0b: that's the GUI I was talking about earier.
[11:17] <bz0b> jstarcher: ok, thank you very much
[11:17] <v3l0ct> I'm sure he sees 4 Gb in windows, why would he have 4GB if it wasn't supported
[11:18] <v3l0ct> by his hardware
[11:18] <Homer_Linux> hiya ppl what program can i burn by backedup ps2 games with ;)
[11:18] <axp> any help on changing locales in ubuntu?
[11:18] <axp> Homer_Linux: cdrdao?
[11:18] <knut_> hello
[11:18] <knut_> ive installed java and the JRE, but why are the applets not working?
[11:18] <knut_> i have a 64bit system and use firefox
[11:18] <Chastaghir> Hello all, I've a question about latex. Any specialists here?
[11:19] <Homer_Linux> ok thanks was not  sure if was that easy
[11:19] <axp> Chastaghir: .
[11:19] <Salihu> Is Ubuntu going to run well (i.e., a relatively "snappy" response) on a 1 GHz PIII with 512 MB? or should I try something "lighter"?
[11:19] <dgags> axp: see this: http://www.quotesdb.info/undernet/ubuntu/18Jan2006/1.html
[11:19] <axp> dgags: i just have a text terminal ;)
[11:19] <kmaynard> Salihu, it'll be laggy, but suffiicient
[11:20] <kmaynard> throw more ram at it, or try xfce4
[11:20] <orion2012> Salihu: YMMV, although Ubuntu has the added bonus of trying XFCE4 and others with a simple apt-get...
[11:20] <kmaynard> with a little patience it'll be fine
[11:20] <dgags> axp hang on...
[11:20] <wildchild> how do I mount /dev/video0 ?
[11:20] <Salihu> OK...  Thanks for your opinions...
[11:20] <Chastaghir> I'm despairing on adding an new .sty to my tetex distribution. I've read many Howtos, always getting the annoying error message: File `CV.sty' not found.
[11:20] <orion2012> wildchild: err, you can't
[11:21] <his_dudnes> wildchild its not mountable
[11:21] <kmaynard> Salihu, apt-get xubuntu-desktop
[11:21] <wildchild> hm
[11:21] <kmaynard> !xubuntu
[11:21] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org  To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:21] <jrib> Salihu: what are you doing to add it?
[11:21] <mthakur> hello i need urgent help :D
[11:21] <wildchild> I can't install web cam
[11:21] <wildchild> so far I wass only able to install camorama
[11:21] <Salihu> Thanks for the suggestion kmaynard...  That sounds like a good idea.
[11:21] <wildchild> but this doesn't help me couse I need codecds..
[11:22] <jrib> Chastaghir: what are you doing to add it?  (sorry wrong name Salihu )
[11:22] <Salihu> jrib: It is going to go on an old compaq...  The only OS on the computer.
[11:22] <Salihu> Ignore the previous...
[11:22] <Chastaghir> I've added a local texmf path to my home directory and executed a texhash
[11:22] <axp> Chastaghir: there is a way where you can make a user sty driectory in your home directory and the you need to export the path with LATEX**** i don't know exactly the export path
[11:22] <Chastaghir> an ls-R file was added
[11:23] <axp> run mktex or similar
[11:23] <dgags> axp: i think it's in /etc/ somewhere... (i know, that answer sucks bad)
[11:23] <Archville> Hi.
[11:23] <wildchild> how do I install microphone plug-in for aMSN
[11:24] <HexDump> hi all!
[11:24] <axp> dgags: no, you have to put in in your .profile like your PATH env!  search google for: customized TEXENV or somethin!
[11:25] <HexDump> just a little question, I need to download some packages for deving, like autoconf, etc... the problem is that adept does not find them in any repository. Do you know of any good one for deving stuff? or another way to get them?. Thanks in advance
[11:25] <anon32> what's the fstab label for a ReiserFS volume?
[11:26] <dgags> axp: did you try man locale?
[11:26] <sethk> anon32, labels are arbitrary names, you can use anything
[11:26] <segfault> anon32, reiserfs
[11:26] <jbmigel> HexDump sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:26] <anon32> thanks
[11:27] <axp> dgags: i did, but in debian there is a way to generate locales withj dpkg-reconfigure
[11:27] <__zer0__> Does anyone know why my screen becomes dim after the bootup sequence? This happened right after I updated
[11:27] <ArrenLex> dpkg-reconfigure locales?
[11:27] <ArrenLex> Or maybe locale?
[11:27] <sethk> anon32, that's the file system type, not the label.
[11:27] <axp> ArrenLex: i did!
[11:27] <__zer0__> The cursor is still light, but the desktop and all windows is DIM
[11:27] <echoz_ubuntu2> hi
[11:27] <ArrenLex> axp: what exactly are you trying to achieve?
[11:27] <anon32> sethk, yea, it's what you label the file system as...
[11:27] <HexDump> jbmigel: could you tell me what is this build-essential thing? (sorry I'n newbie to linux). I suppose will be an alias for agroup of dev utils, am I right?
[11:27] <anon32> that answered my question
[11:27] <sethk> anon32, no, the file system also has a label
[11:28] <axp> ArrenLex: i have en_US and want de_AT@ISO8859-15
[11:28] <sethk> it answered a different question, but maybe he's lucky and assumed the right thing.  :)
[11:28] <ArrenLex> HexDump: apt-get install build-essential. Will get you the compiler, the libc headers, etc.
[11:28] <jbmigel> HexDump it is a package that contains all your dev stuff... gcc, make etc. yes your right
[11:28] <ArrenLex> axp: and what does dpkg-reconfigure locales tell you?
[11:29] <gandolfthewizard> hi all
[11:29] <IconoclasticGoat> I'm a Linux newbie.  I recently installed Ubuntu, then installed it again from the LiveCD after I realized I had screwed up some things.  Now when I boot up I get two different sets of Ubuntu on the screen to choose my OS, with the same kernel.  How can I uninstall the old version?
[11:29] <axp> Generating locales: en_US.........         but  i need de_AT
[11:30] <Xyc0> I checked out the Wiki for my laptop and it says that hibernation and suspend should work, I don't understand what I am doing wrong.
[11:30] <sethk> IconoclasticGoat, it's unlikely that you really have two
[11:30] <Xyc0> IconoclasticGoat: that is just the updated kernel
[11:30] <ArrenLex> axp: have you googled for "debian add locales" or "ubuntu add locales"?
[11:30] <sethk> IconoclasticGoat, you just have a duplicate in the menu
[11:30] <sethk> IconoclasticGoat, you can remove it by editing /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:30] <IconoclasticGoat> sethk, so it's not occupying twice the disk space?
[11:31] <gandolfthewizard> how do i install crossover on ubuntu
[11:31] <ArrenLex> IconoclasticGoat: try grub-update or update-grub
[11:31] <axp> ArrenLex: on this machine i only have console and its really no fun these days to surf the web in a console
[11:31] <IconoclasticGoat> Thank you very much everyone.
[11:31] <sethk> IconoclasticGoat, not unless you told it to use half the first time, and told it to use the other half the next time
[11:31] <sethk> IconoclasticGoat, post your menu.lst, then we can tell you whether there are really two, or just one
[11:31] <Xyc0> or he can pastebin it
[11:32] <Xyc0> and not flood the channel
[11:32] <HexDump> jbmigel : I'm curious, I want some dev utils to build my own toolchain, is there anyway to only download the ones I need? becasue I have an script that will download all new versions of gcc, g++, etc... from repositories and then compile them for my psp
[11:32] <sethk> Xyc0, I didn't say to paste to the channel, I said to post, which means to use the pastebin
[11:32] <HexDump> jbmigel: I think it is a waste of space to download it all, am I right?
[11:32] <IconoclasticGoat> sethk, okay, i'll do that later.
[11:32] <dgags> axp: seems you need to add the locale you want to /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local and then run dpkg-reconfigure locales
[11:32] <Xyc0> sethk: he already admitted to being a linux newb, try to help him out by not assuming
[11:33] <sethk> Xyc0, I'm not assuming anything
[11:33] <MrMazda> edgy net installer: "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources...." :~(
[11:33] <dgags> axp: For a list of valid locales you can search through "/usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED".
[11:33] <ArrenLex> axp: regardless, if you have to, you can. Try the w3m console browser; I believe it's pre-installed in ubuntu.
[11:33] <MrMazda> how is this possible?
[11:33] <jbmigel> HexDump do you plan to compile your own toolchain or are you saying your will download one?
[11:33] <IconoclasticGoat> Xyc0, I can find the menu.lst file, it's ok.
[11:34] <IconoclasticGoat> Back in a bit...
[11:34] <HexDump> jbmigel: I will download it, and compile it (where I say I, I mean the script will do for me)
[11:34] <steve> trying to run a java RMI app on my Dapper setup.  But I get accessdenied exceptions.  What do i have to do?
[11:34] <sethk> HexDump, you need the compiler to build your toolchain, unless you want to go through the bootstrap procedure which is rather difficult.
[11:34] <Xyc0> Does anyone else see pretty colors when they try to suspend/hibernate?
[11:34] <dazeddan2001> Hi a friend installed Ubuntu on my machine. How in the heck do I install Google Earth? I downloaded it but I don't see any install app.
[11:35] <Xyc0> steve: are you running as sudo
[11:35] <HexDump> sethk: ouch, I'm dumb, you?e right, I need gcc for cross compiling... dumb of me
[11:35] <jbmigel> HexDump, if you install build-essential your script should be able to build your toolchain. gcc and make are not large packages dont worry about it
[11:35] <steve> Xyc0, no.  should i be?  and what, exactly?  everything?
[11:35] <Xyc0> dazeddan2001: google earth is a win32 executable
[11:35] <dazeddan2001> I downloaded the Linux version
[11:35] <sethk> HexDump, or even for native compiling unless you want to bootstrap
[11:35] <ArrenLex> dazeddan: have you tried running it?
[11:35] <steve> Xyc0, I'm binding to port 22000, so it's not reserved...
[11:36] <jrib> dazeddan2001: http://earth.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=44713&topic=1135
[11:36] <Xyc0> dazeddan2001: unless they made it opensource when I was sleeping
[11:36] <mcphail> dazeddan2001: just execute the .bin file
[11:36] <ArrenLex> dazzedan: sudo chmod +x <file> and then ./<file>
[11:36] <HexDump> jbmigel: yes yes, thanks a lot for the help. By the well, I? having a great time with ubuntu, just switched from winxp (vista scares me) :D
[11:36] <dazeddan2001> I double clicked it and get "Could not open the file /home/ubuntu/Desktop/GoogleEarthLinux.bin."
[11:36] <Xyc0> steve: what is the command you are using?
[11:36] <HexDump> jbmigel: the only thing I miss from win, is visual studio .net (c#) and windows forms :(
[11:36] <mcphail> dazeddan2001: use the terminal
[11:36] <ArrenLex> dazeddan: you probably don't have execute permissions. Go to a terminal and do what I told you.
[11:37] <jbmigel> HexDump yes welcome to gnu/linux. also good luck hacking your psp
[11:37] <lebafar> I am looking for a different bit torrent client from the oficial. Could someone help me on that please?
[11:37] <ArrenLex> dazeddan: after you give yourself exec permission through the term, you should be able to double-click.
[11:37] <kitche> !bittorrent
[11:37] <rambo3> HexDump, mono ?
[11:37] <steve> Xyc0, First: rmiregistry;  Then: java -cp myclasspath myRMIServer
[11:37] <ubotu> bittorrent: Scatter-gather network file transfer. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4.2-6ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 92 kB, installed size 580 kB
[11:37] <THX-1138> azureus - mentioned a lot
[11:37] <dazeddan2001> ok
[11:37] <dazeddan2001> I will try it
[11:37] <dazeddan2001> thanks
[11:37] <HexDump> jbmigel: nah no problem, I developed for it on windows, I made (last version is a port) pspectrum (great speccy fan here) :D
[11:37] <MrOregon> is there a channel for compiz support in ubuntu?
[11:37] <Xyc0> steve: are you in sudo?
[11:38] <steve> Xyc0, no
[11:38] <Xyc0> steve: sudo -s
[11:38] <THX-1138> #ubuntu-xgl
[11:38] <Xyc0> then try the commands
[11:38] <kitche> lebafar: yeah you can use azreus or rtorrent there is a lot of torrent clients but rtorrent is probably not what you want
[11:38] <sethk> HexDump, there is an implementation of c#.  the development environment might not be as slick, but it is much more powerful once you learn it.
[11:38] <kmaynard> bittorrent has a good client
[11:38] <lebafar> is rtorrent too bad?
[11:38] <jmcstev> help on Ubuntu-FAI
[11:38] <HexDump> sethk: I know but windows forms is an important thing for me.
[11:38] <kitche> lebafar: it's ncurses based
[11:39] <dgags> axp: any luck?
[11:39] <kitche> kmaynard: lebafar said doesn't want bittorrent
[11:39] <lebafar> I think Azureus is java based...
[11:39] <Xyc0> I need help with hibernation on a dell 5150, can someone point me in the right direction?
[11:39] <sethk> HexDump, that functionality is available.  it's just the visual studio part that isn't as slick.
[11:39] <lluka> hey does anyone know how to mount an ext3 volume with user privilages?
[11:39] <IconoclasticGoat> Okay, I have my menu.lst file up, and I think it's two separate versions.
[11:39] <THX-1138> #ubuntu-offtopic torrent clients
[11:39] <lebafar> I want something light and complete.
[11:39] <jbmigel> lebafar yes azureus needs java... look into utorrent
[11:39] <segfault> lluka, man mount
[11:39] <steve> Xyc0, still no luck.  java.net.SocketPermission 127.0.0.1:22000 connect,resolve
[11:39] <ArrenLex> lluka: how are you mounting?
[11:40] <HexDump> sethk: do we have a gui building tool too?
[11:40] <Xyc0> steve: what are you trying to do?
[11:40] <lluka> i want to do it via fstab
[11:40] <knut_> which package is missing ?
[11:40] <lebafar> utorrent is a client?
[11:40] <knut_> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[11:40] <knut_> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[11:40] <knut_> /usr/lib/opera/9.02-20060919.6/opera: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:40] <dazeddan2001> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[11:40] <kmaynard> kitche, thats what i get for going afk
[11:40] <Xyc0> steve:ultimately
[11:40] <IconoclasticGoat> Here's what I'm using now:  title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-26-386
[11:40] <IconoclasticGoat> root            (hd0,5)
[11:40] <IconoclasticGoat> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 root=/dev/hda6 ro quiet splash
[11:40] <IconoclasticGoat> initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-26-386
[11:40] <IconoclasticGoat> savedefault
[11:40] <IconoclasticGoat> boot
[11:40] <THX-1138> !paste
[11:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:40] <ArrenLex> lluka, in your options field in fstab, just add "users". In fact, you should probably look at "man fstab".
[11:40] <Xyc0> sigh, told you sethk
[11:40] <jbmigel> wow
[11:40] <segfault> !pastebin
[11:40] <dazeddan2001> how do I open the file through this?
[11:40] <ArrenLex> users -> user, actually.
[11:40] <steve> Xyc0, I'm writing a java RMI program...
[11:40] <ArrenLex> Don't remember; on a windows machine.
[11:40] <steve> Xyc0, learning RMI
[11:40] <lebafar> whats RMI?
[11:41] <steve> lebafar, Java Remote Method Invocation
[11:41] <lebafar> oh.. ok.
[11:41] <sethk> steve, there are other similar technologies that you may also want to look at
[11:41] <steve> lebafar, it's not important if you don't know what it is....
[11:41] <lebafar> So last word is utorrent ?
[11:41] <knut_> does anyone know which package i need?
[11:41] <lluka> it gives me errors if i add uid , gid, or umask
[11:41] <Xyc0> IconoclasticGoat: we cannot see your info because you did not use pastebin
[11:41] <lluka> im guessing those arent ext3 options
[11:41] <steve> sethk, like CORBA?  I pretty much must learn RMI
[11:41] <wildchild> Why my mozilla won't execute: Cant execute aplication: mozilla url$. Check preferences
[11:41] <lebafar> steve I am learning java so I got interested.
[11:41] <steve> sethk, and this SHOULD work.
[11:41] <HexDump> by the way kopete roolz, I was not used to have all this protocols in one program :D
[11:41] <ArrenLex> lluka, "umask=000" to the options field, after a comma.
[11:41] <sethk> steve, RMI is really a special case of corba
[11:42] <segfault> lluka, why not perms of actual files
[11:42] <segfault> lluka, why not change perms of actual files on ext3  vol
[11:42] <sethk> steve, RMI has a corba compliant mode and java rmi clients can talk to other programs using corba, also
[11:42] <IconoclasticGoat> 1. Sorry, here it is again with paste: 2. title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-26-386 3. root            (hd0,5) 4. kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 root=/dev/hda6 ro quiet splash 5. initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-26-386 6. savedefault 7. boot 8.
[11:42] <jmcstev> help with Ubuntu Dapper and FAI
[11:42] <lluka> because its a pain in the butt to keep doing that :/
[11:42] <sethk> steve, I wasn't saying not to learn rmi, I was saying there is other neat stuff also.
[11:42] <Xyc0> steve: yea, what sethk said
[11:42] <IconoclasticGoat> That's the Ubuntu I'm using.
[11:42] <IconoclasticGoat> This is the other Ubuntu listed in menu.lst:
[11:43] <lebafar> well, bbl! thank you guys!
[11:43] <THX-1138> !paste > Iconoclasticgoat
[11:43] <IconoclasticGoat> 1. # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing 2. # linux installation on /dev/hda3. 3. title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-27-386 (on /dev/hda3) 4. root            (hd0,2) 5. kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-27-386 root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet splash 6. initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-27-386 7. savedefault 8. boot
[11:43] <steve> sethk, Xyc0 , doesn't matter.  I have to write a distributed app for my CS course.  We've already decided to use RMI.  Just gotta get some basic apps working on my laptop.... >.<
[11:43] <THX-1138> !ops
[11:43] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[11:43] <HexDump> sethk: could you confirm the gui designer thing?
[11:43] <gnomefreak> THX-1138: ?
[11:43] <Xyc0> IconoclasticGoat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:43] <kmaynard> whiskey tango foxtrot
[11:43] <THX-1138> Iconoclasticgoat flood
[11:43] <steve> sethk, Xyc0 , but i know there's lots of cool stuffs :)
[11:44] <dazeddan2001> How do I "Give myself Permission"?
[11:44] <anon32> help, how can I quickly replace the owner on multiple files?
[11:44] <gnomefreak> THX-1138: he didnt flood it was all one paragraph
[11:44] <Xyc0> dazeddan2001: chmod
[11:44] <dazeddan2001> Thats it? Just type chmod?
[11:44] <lluka> how can i make it read write first before i use man fstab
[11:44] <lluka> ?
[11:44] <THX-1138> gnomefreak ok, - he has done it severaltimes - likely very new to channel.
[11:44] <sethk> HexDump, I've tried some gui designers, yes, but I do o/s and device driver programming so I really don't pay attention to designer tools.  They do exist, and shouldn't be hard to find.
[11:45] <anon32> again, how can I quickly change the owner on multiple files?
[11:45] <Xyc0> dazeddan2001: no, that is the program that will allow you to change permissions
[11:45] <IconoclasticGoat> I don't know how to use paste to put the text in the channel.
[11:45] <sethk> anon32, chmod
[11:45] <sethk> anon32, chmod takes a list of files
[11:45] <gnomefreak> IconoclasticGoat: at 17:40 you did flood please use pastebin to paste text
[11:45] <HexDump> sethk: ok mate. c ya laters, it is time to sleep. bye all
[11:46] <gnomefreak> THX-1138: sorry i had to scroll farther
[11:46] <sethk> anon32, you can use it with -R to change files in subdirectories also
[11:46] <Tailsfan> !ubotu server
[11:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[11:46] <THX-1138> gnomefreak - nice channel. appreciate your efforts.
[11:46] <anon32> sethk, but chmod just changes permissions
[11:47] <anon32> I want to change owner
[11:47] <gnomefreak> anon32: owner =permissions
[11:47] <THX-1138> anon32 - the chown command
[11:47] <IconoclasticGoat> anon32: use chown.
[11:47] <kitche> anon32: use chown
[11:47] <jstarcher> how do I show the processes that are running? I forget the command :-(
[11:47] <anon32> lol, thanks
[11:47] <THX-1138> jstarcher: ps -e
[11:47] <erUSUL> jstarcher: ps ax
[11:48] <lluka> any way to chmod the entire partition?
[11:48] <dazeddan2001> Do I type chmod 777 -c?
[11:48] <jmcstev> ps auxww
[11:48] <anon32> do I use a gid or a name?
[11:48] <jstarcher> thanks
[11:48] <kitche> anon32: chown user:group
[11:48] <THX-1138> anon32  both or neither did that help?
[11:48] <anon32> ok, thanks
[11:48] <lluka> nvm made it work
[11:48] <lluka> :D
[11:48] <anon32> can I chown a directory?
[11:48] <lluka> chmod -R
[11:49] <lluka> makes it do all the files and folders
[11:49] <Xyc0> !ubotu hibernation
[11:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hibernation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:49] <jmcstev> Can I perfom Netinstall with the alternate cd of dapper?
[11:49] <anon32> !hibernate
[11:49] <ubotu> hibernate: activates your computer's suspend functionality. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.12-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 66 kB, installed size 328 kB
[11:49] <THX-1138> !acpi
[11:49] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (dapper), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[11:49] <sethk> dazeddan2001, it's better to use symbols with chmod instead of numbers.  such as   chmod a+rwx (give execute, read, and write permission to all) for example
[11:49] <IconoclasticGoat> !pastelog
[11:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastelog - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:49] <sethk> anon32, yes
[11:49] <sethk> anon32, the x permission on a directory mean search (it's execute permission for a file)
[11:49] <benjamin> Any one knows how i change name on the NFS-icons on the desktop?
[11:49] <anon32> ok, example syntax for chowning a directory (I'm a noob)?
[11:50] <sethk> anon32, cp -av
[11:50] <sethk> anon32, I have say /usr/d1, and I do mkdir /usr/d2,   cd /usr/d2    cp -av /usr/d1/. .
[11:50] <sethk> anon32, note the two dots
[11:50] <kitche> anon32: chown user:group <directory>
[11:50] <IconoclasticGoat> sethk, if there are different kernels listed for the Ubuntu entries in /boot/grub/menu.lst, does that mean that I have Ubuntu installed twice?
[11:50] <sethk> anon32, the dot refers to the directory.  use the . instead of * because * misses hidden files.
[11:50] <Xyc0> Anyone here know how I can fix my hibernation?
[11:50] <dazeddan2001> Missing operand after 'a+rwx'
[11:50] <sethk> IconoclasticGoat, no, you may have two kernels, but not two installations.
[11:51] <sethk> IconoclasticGoat, is the    root=    part the same for both?
[11:51] <IconoclasticGoat> one moment...
[11:51] <IconoclasticGoat> no, one says root (hd0,5) and the other says root (hd0,2)
[11:51] <sethk> IconoclasticGoat, then you probably do have two installations
[11:52] <IconoclasticGoat> okay... how can I get rid of the (hd0,2) installation?
[11:52] <sethk> IconoclasticGoat, you can reuse the partition as file space
[11:52] <sethk> IconoclasticGoat, is that what you mean?
[11:52] <IconoclasticGoat> Yes
[11:52] <anon32> yay, chown does wonders
[11:53] <IconoclasticGoat> sethk, how do I do that?
[11:53] <sethk> IconoclasticGoat, you would do something like this:    mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda3
[11:53] <anon32> why can't nautilus do a recursive permissions/ownership change?
[11:53] <sethk> IconoclasticGoat, which creates a new file system on /dev/hda3 (which is the same as hd0,2 in grub)
[11:53] <dazeddan2001> OK I typed chmod a+awx and got "missing operand after a+awx"
[11:53] <dazeddan2001> I mean rwx
[11:53] <sethk> dazeddan2001, yes, you do have to give it at least one file name to change
[11:53] <Abst> dazeddan2001: Type the filename after it
[11:54] <IconoclasticGoat> sethk: I'll try that, thanks.
[11:54] <g333k_work> Hello, I just install edgy but I forgot my password, what can I dot?
[11:54] <Abst> E.g. chmod +x FILE.TXT
[11:54] <sethk> IconoclasticGoat, after that you have to mount it.
[11:54] <tecta> hmm, why does azureus require mozilla-browser even though I have firefox?
[11:54] <evol_> g333k_work: boot into single user mode and change the password
[11:54] <anon32> tecta, it uses mozilla-browser's libraries to pop annoying donation requests from you
[11:54] <g333k_work> evol_, how to do that?
[11:55] <tecta> anon32, =\ i don't want 2 browsers installed
[11:55] <anon32> if I uninstall some packages that are default in Ubuntu, will that mess up my system?
[11:55] <MrMazda> edgy net installer: "An error was returned while trying to install the initramfs-tools package onto the target system." :~(
[11:55] <anon32> tecta, I didn't like that either... mozilla is massive
[11:55] <IconoclasticGoat> sethk: If I mount it in the command line, will it continue to be mounted when I restart my computer?
[11:55] <evol_> g333k_work: boot he machine and enter init=/bin/bash as an extra parameter to the grub options. once you get a prompt you can use passwd to set the password
[11:56] <Flannel> anon32: not usually
[11:56] <lele_> @sethk: i don't think so
[11:56] <anon32> IconoclasticGoat, you need to edit /etc/fstab for that
[11:56] <Flannel> evol_, g333k_work, no need to do that.  Use the recovery console, already in your grub menu, here's a link once youre there
[11:56] <anon32> Flannel, ok, so if I were to deinstall evolution?
[11:56] <g333k_work> evol_, so I will be root?
[11:56] <Flannel> g333k_work: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[11:57] <evol_> g333k_work: yes
[11:57] <Flannel> anon32: that'd be fine.  You'll be forced to remove ubuntu-desktop (the meta package) but you'll still be fine.  You'll need to reinstall ubuntu-desktop (and therefore evolution) to upgrade to edgy and beyond and stuff though
[11:57] <anon32> Flannel, so, I need it for dist-upgrade?
[11:57] <Flannel> anon32: you'll need the meta packages, yes.
[11:57] <anon32> ............
[11:58] <evol_> Flannel: is recovery mode the same as single user mode?
[11:58] <Flannel> evol_: recovery is single user mode, yes.
[11:58] <jackrazz> hey everyone
[11:58] <anon32> and what does nautilus depend on for thumbnails?
[11:58] <anon32> video thumbnails*
[11:58] <evol_> Flannel: nice!
[11:58] <Subhuman> anon32, gstreamer
[11:58] <lele_> who have solved problems with ATI 3D?
[11:58] <IconoclasticGoat> What should my mountpoint be if I just want it for free disk space?
[11:58] <Subhuman> and to make the thumbnail,. it needs to have the right plugins/codecs of coure
[11:59] <Flannel> IconoclasticGoat: where do you want your free disk space? what for?
[11:59] <johso> hiya folks.
[11:59] <tecta> weird, when I open up camorama (webcam app) nothing appears just lines, and i have spca5xx loaded for my camera
[11:59] <echoz_ubuntu2> hi anyone ...now that i have easyubuntu installed how do i invoke it?   (noob here sorry)
[11:59] <anon32> Subhuman, so, if I remove totem, will I still have thumbnails?
[11:59] <IconoclasticGoat> Flannel: I just want it available for data to be written to.
[12:00] <Subhuman> anon32, yes
[12:00] <IconoclasticGoat> By Ubuntu.
[12:00] <anon32> Subhuman, is totem just a frontend to a massive backend for video playback?
[12:01] <Subhuman> anon32, yes