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| judge | hi have a laptop which mostly works in dapper | 08:52 |
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| judge | but in etch it's unusuable | 08:59 |
| judge | for some reason etch misconfigured the video hw and touchpad | 08:59 |
| judge | and didn't setup toshiba-keys | 08:59 |
| judge | this is toshiba r100 with trident video card | 09:01 |
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| mjg59 | etch or edgy? | 09:11 |
| judge | sorry, i meant edgy | 09:11 |
| mjg59 | Misconfigured in what way? | 09:12 |
| judge | first of all | 09:12 |
| judge | both dapper and edgy select vesa as the video driver | 09:12 |
| judge | in dapper this works | 09:12 |
| Treenaks | etchy *runs for the hills* | 09:12 |
| judge | in edgy it just freezes x on startup | 09:12 |
| mjg59 | What video hardware does it have? | 09:13 |
| judge | they should be selecting trident | 09:13 |
| mjg59 | If you select trident, does it work? | 09:13 |
| judge | yes | 09:13 |
| mjg59 | Ok. So that's easy enough to fix. | 09:13 |
| judge | there is a bigger problem | 09:14 |
| judge | xorg in edgy is broken for trident | 09:14 |
| judge | so it does work well enough to login | 09:14 |
| mjg59 | In what way? | 09:14 |
| judge | but when you move windows around or scroll | 09:14 |
| judge | blitting seems to be broken | 09:14 |
| Treenaks | (exa?) | 09:14 |
| judge | so the display of that window gets garbled | 09:14 |
| judge | this is a regression in xorg i assume | 09:14 |
| mjg59 | Quite likely | 09:15 |
| judge | are you bug databases linked in any ways? | 09:15 |
| judge | or should i be filing separately with them? | 09:15 |
| mjg59 | File separately with them, we can link the bugs | 09:15 |
| judge | ok | 09:15 |
| judge | also, due to stupid bugs in trident driver | 09:15 |
| judge | should be booting with vga=791 | 09:16 |
| Treenaks | mjg59: did you ever see the crackful Ati stuff from my laptop? | 09:16 |
| mjg59 | judge: Uh. | 09:16 |
| mjg59 | judge: We can't do that. | 09:16 |
| judge | otherwise if you close the lid, the x res screws up | 09:16 |
| judge | and you have to switch to/from x | 09:16 |
| judge | to fix it | 09:16 |
| mjg59 | Sorry, we'll have to fix the X driver | 09:16 |
| judge | ok | 09:16 |
| mjg59 | Treenaks: Yes | 09:16 |
| judge | well switch it to use trident instead of vesa for now | 09:16 |
| Treenaks | afaik, the trident driver also has Xv crappiness going on | 09:16 |
| judge | yes | 09:17 |
| judge | xv doesnt work :) | 09:17 |
| Treenaks | mjg59: Dave Airlie asked me to mail him my video bios... I'm waiting for him to parse it now.. | 09:17 |
| judge | at least in dapper..didnt get far enough in edgy | 09:17 |
| Treenaks | judge: it works, but it crashes, on a friend's laptop | 09:17 |
| judge | ah, i just get a blue screen in the window | 09:17 |
| judge | anyways, what can i do to make sure that my laptop works in edgy at least as well as it does in dapper? | 09:18 |
| mjg59 | judge: The hotkeys fix has just been submitted | 09:18 |
| mjg59 | Which will possibly fix the vesa issue as well (don't ask) | 09:19 |
| mjg59 | What does lspci -n give you for the video hardware? | 09:19 |
| judge | 0000:01:00.0 0300: 1023:2100 (rev 91) | 09:20 |
| judge | Trident Microsystems CyberBlade XP4m32 <--most unlucky video card one could get stuck with | 09:20 |
| judge | also unless they fixed stuff in the new xorg | 09:21 |
| judge | it would be nice if you could do Option "ShadowFB" "On" | 09:21 |
| judge | since the card is unaccelerated | 09:22 |
| mjg59 | Seriously? | 09:22 |
| mjg59 | Ouch. | 09:22 |
| mjg59 | Ok, uploaded a new discover1-data with the card id in | 09:22 |
| judge | well the driver for this card i mean | 09:22 |
| judge | thanks | 09:22 |
| judge | how do i redetect x config? | 09:23 |
| judge | err, regenerate | 09:23 |
| mjg59 | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg | 09:23 |
| judge | ok | 09:23 |
| judge | i'll try that later today | 09:23 |
| judge | thanks a lot | 09:23 |
| mjg59 | If you enable EXA, does the blitting work? | 09:23 |
| judge | i dont know how to enable exa | 09:23 |
| mjg59 | Option "AccelMethod" "exa" | 09:24 |
| mjg59 | In the device section for the card | 09:24 |
| judge | i'll try it | 09:24 |
| mjg59 | May or may not help | 09:24 |
| judge | dude | 09:38 |
| judge | it does work | 09:38 |
| judge | the other bug that i found during the install was that it couldn't create xfs partitions | 09:39 |
| mjg59 | judge: So it works if you use EXA? | 09:39 |
| judge | yes | 09:39 |
| mjg59 | And not otherwise? | 09:42 |
| judge | right | 09:43 |
| mjg59 | Ok | 09:43 |
| judge | well i can doublecheck | 09:43 |
| judge | let me disable it | 09:43 |
| mjg59 | Can you file a bug against xserver-xorg-video-trident and mention that? | 09:43 |
| judge | can you make it default to exa for now? | 09:44 |
| judge | will do the bugreport | 09:44 |
| jldugger | mjg59, so is the toshiba acpi fix close to working? i just saw a patch last night | 09:45 |
| mjg59 | jldugger: Yes | 09:45 |
| jldugger | sweet | 09:45 |
| jldugger | guess i wont reinstall dapper today then ;) | 09:45 |
| judge | ok confirmed that it's unusable without exa | 09:46 |
| judge | i have another problem | 09:49 |
| judge | do you have a workaround for this | 09:49 |
| judge | when i try to install fuse | 09:49 |
| judge | it gets stuck during configuration stage | 09:49 |
| judge | * Reloading kernel event manager... [ ok ] | 09:49 |
| mjg59 | No idea, I'm afraid | 09:50 |
| mjg59 | But might be related to the hotkeys not working | 09:50 |
| judge | seems to get stuck in a modprobe command | 09:50 |
| mjg59 | Yeah | 09:52 |
| mjg59 | Quite likely to be the hotkey issue | 09:52 |
| judge | ok | 09:54 |
| judge | what about my left alt key not working? | 10:00 |
| judge | ie alt-left doesnt go back | 10:00 |
| judge | in the browser | 10:00 |
| judge | err..right alt key isnt working..left one is | 10:00 |
| judge | is that just a keymap issue? | 10:01 |
| judge | ok xv is still broken in the same way as before..but with exa, x11 output methods seem to be efficient enough | 10:07 |
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| captine | hi all. anyone here running 64 bit 6.06 on a turion notebook? | 10:43 |
| judge | multibattery stuff is broken too | 10:53 |
| judge | if one battery runs out of juice with the other stuff full edgy gets unhappy and tries to hibernate | 10:53 |
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| Altair | Hey. Just a question. What /is/ Edgy? Like, what does it do special? | 11:16 |
| jldugger | Edgy is what comes after dapper | 11:16 |
| jldugger | like how vista comes after XP | 11:16 |
| Altair | Ah gotcha. Thanks. | 11:17 |
| jldugger | lemme give you a link explaining what it does special | 11:17 |
| jldugger | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Beta | 11:17 |
| Altair | Sounds good. | 11:17 |
| jldugger | if you'd like to help out, the first thing to do is probably fill out a Laptop support page on the wiki, describing what works on your model and what doesn't | 11:20 |
| Altair | Mmkay. | 11:21 |
| jldugger | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/ has details on that, if you want. you should probably start with dapper if you've got that running now. | 11:23 |
| Altair | Heh... I /had/ it running but now I've done a reformat. I plan on running it again though. | 11:26 |
| jldugger | that'd be fantastic, so you can run through the installer again | 11:27 |
| jldugger | which laptop do you have? | 11:27 |
| Altair | Toshiba Satellite M70. | 11:29 |
| jldugger | ah | 11:29 |
| Altair | One issue I was having was with wireless networking. It worked fine on networks without passkeys, but when it came to using a network with WEP/WPA or whatever, it simply did not want to connect. | 11:30 |
| jldugger | i think someone else already has that model reported -- all you'd need to do is verify and maybe add some comments ;) | 11:30 |
| Altair | I couldn't figure out why. In any case, it was a minor issue that was probably my own unfamiliarity. | 11:30 |
| jldugger | edgy is still kinda buggy -- lots of toshiba laptops seem to be having problems. some dont start X; mine does but i cant use the fn keys =/ there's a patch out thats supposed to fix it, hopefully it makes it out soon | 11:33 |
| Altair | Yeah. Well, with all the people working on it, I'm sure something will get done. | 11:35 |
| Altair | The beauty of open source. | 11:35 |
| jldugger | sometimes the beauty of open source is that you're the only one with that hardware ;) | 11:35 |
| Altair | A very good point. | 11:36 |
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