[08:52] <judge> hi have a laptop which mostly works in dapper
[08:59] <judge> but in etch it's unusuable
[08:59] <judge> for some reason etch misconfigured the video hw and touchpad
[08:59] <judge> and didn't setup toshiba-keys
[09:01] <judge> this is toshiba r100 with trident video card
[09:11] <mjg59> etch or edgy?
[09:11] <judge> sorry, i meant edgy
[09:12] <mjg59> Misconfigured in what way?
[09:12] <judge> first of all
[09:12] <judge> both dapper and edgy select vesa as the video driver
[09:12] <judge> in dapper this works
[09:12] <Treenaks> etchy *runs for the hills*
[09:12] <judge> in edgy it just freezes x on startup
[09:13] <mjg59> What video hardware does it have?
[09:13] <judge> they should be selecting trident
[09:13] <mjg59> If you select trident, does it work?
[09:13] <judge> yes
[09:13] <mjg59> Ok. So that's easy enough to fix.
[09:14] <judge> there is a bigger problem
[09:14] <judge> xorg in edgy is broken for trident
[09:14] <judge> so it does work well enough to login
[09:14] <mjg59> In what way?
[09:14] <judge> but when you move windows around or scroll
[09:14] <judge> blitting seems to be broken
[09:14] <Treenaks> (exa?)
[09:14] <judge> so the display of that window gets garbled
[09:14] <judge> this is a regression in xorg i assume
[09:15] <mjg59> Quite likely
[09:15] <judge> are you bug databases linked in any ways?
[09:15] <judge> or should i be filing separately with them?
[09:15] <mjg59> File separately with them, we can link the bugs
[09:15] <judge> ok
[09:15] <judge> also, due to stupid bugs in trident driver
[09:16] <judge> should be booting with vga=791
[09:16] <Treenaks> mjg59: did you ever see the crackful Ati stuff from my laptop?
[09:16] <mjg59> judge: Uh.
[09:16] <mjg59> judge: We can't do that.
[09:16] <judge> otherwise if you close the lid, the x res screws up
[09:16] <judge> and you have to switch to/from x
[09:16] <judge> to fix it
[09:16] <mjg59> Sorry, we'll have to fix the X driver
[09:16] <judge> ok
[09:16] <mjg59> Treenaks: Yes
[09:16] <judge> well switch it to use trident instead of vesa for now
[09:16] <Treenaks> afaik, the trident driver also has Xv crappiness going on
[09:17] <judge> yes
[09:17] <judge> xv doesnt work :)
[09:17] <Treenaks> mjg59: Dave Airlie asked me to mail him my video bios... I'm waiting for him to parse it now..
[09:17] <judge> at least in dapper..didnt get far enough in edgy
[09:17] <Treenaks> judge: it works, but it crashes, on a friend's laptop
[09:17] <judge> ah, i just get a blue screen in the window
[09:18] <judge> anyways, what can i do to make sure that my laptop works in edgy at least as well as it does in dapper?
[09:18] <mjg59> judge: The hotkeys fix has just been submitted
[09:19] <mjg59> Which will possibly fix the vesa issue as well (don't ask)
[09:19] <mjg59> What does lspci -n give you for the video hardware?
[09:20] <judge> 0000:01:00.0 0300: 1023:2100 (rev 91)
[09:20] <judge> Trident Microsystems CyberBlade XP4m32 <--most unlucky video card one could get stuck with
[09:21] <judge> also unless they fixed stuff in the new xorg
[09:21] <judge> it would be nice if you could do Option "ShadowFB" "On"
[09:22] <judge> since the card is unaccelerated
[09:22] <mjg59> Seriously?
[09:22] <mjg59> Ouch.
[09:22] <mjg59> Ok, uploaded a new discover1-data with the card id in
[09:22] <judge> well the driver for this card i mean
[09:22] <judge> thanks
[09:23] <judge> how do i redetect x config?
[09:23] <judge> err, regenerate
[09:23] <mjg59> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:23] <judge> ok
[09:23] <judge> i'll try that later today
[09:23] <judge> thanks a lot
[09:23] <mjg59> If you enable EXA, does the blitting work?
[09:23] <judge> i dont know how to enable exa
[09:24] <mjg59> Option "AccelMethod" "exa"
[09:24] <mjg59> In the device section for the card
[09:24] <judge> i'll try it
[09:24] <mjg59> May or may not help
[09:38] <judge> dude
[09:38] <judge> it does work
[09:39] <judge> the other bug that i found during the install was that it couldn't create xfs partitions
[09:39] <mjg59> judge: So it works if you use EXA?
[09:39] <judge> yes
[09:42] <mjg59> And not otherwise?
[09:43] <judge> right
[09:43] <mjg59> Ok
[09:43] <judge> well i can doublecheck
[09:43] <judge> let me disable it
[09:43] <mjg59> Can you file a bug against xserver-xorg-video-trident and mention that?
[09:44] <judge> can you make it default to exa for now?
[09:44] <judge> will do the bugreport
[09:45] <jldugger> mjg59, so is the toshiba acpi fix close to working? i just saw a patch last night
[09:45] <mjg59> jldugger: Yes
[09:45] <jldugger> sweet
[09:45] <jldugger> guess i wont reinstall dapper today then ;)
[09:46] <judge> ok confirmed that it's unusable without exa
[09:49] <judge> i have another problem
[09:49] <judge> do you have a workaround for this
[09:49] <judge> when i try to install fuse
[09:49] <judge> it gets stuck during configuration stage
[09:49] <judge>  * Reloading kernel event manager...                                     [ ok ] 
[09:50] <mjg59> No idea, I'm afraid
[09:50] <mjg59> But might be related to the hotkeys not working
[09:50] <judge> seems to get stuck in a modprobe command
[09:52] <mjg59> Yeah
[09:52] <mjg59> Quite likely to be the hotkey issue
[09:54] <judge> ok
[10:00] <judge> what about my left alt key not working?
[10:00] <judge> ie alt-left doesnt go back
[10:00] <judge> in the browser
[10:00] <judge> err..right alt key isnt working..left one is
[10:01] <judge> is that just a keymap issue?
[10:07] <judge> ok xv is still broken in the same way as before..but with exa, x11 output methods seem to be efficient enough
[10:43] <captine> hi all.  anyone here running 64 bit 6.06 on a turion notebook?
[10:53] <judge> multibattery stuff is broken too
[10:53] <judge> if one battery runs out of juice with the other stuff full edgy gets unhappy and tries to hibernate
[11:16] <Altair> Hey. Just a question. What /is/ Edgy? Like, what does it do special?
[11:16] <jldugger> Edgy is what comes after dapper
[11:16] <jldugger> like how vista comes after XP
[11:17] <Altair> Ah gotcha. Thanks.
[11:17] <jldugger> lemme give you a link explaining what it does special
[11:17] <jldugger> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Beta
[11:17] <Altair> Sounds good.
[11:20] <jldugger> if you'd like to help out, the first thing to do is probably fill out a Laptop support page on the wiki, describing what works on your model and what doesn't
[11:21] <Altair> Mmkay.
[11:23] <jldugger> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/  has details on that, if you want.  you should probably start with dapper if you've got that running now.
[11:26] <Altair> Heh... I /had/ it running  but now I've done a reformat. I plan on running it again though.
[11:27] <jldugger> that'd be fantastic, so you can run through the installer again
[11:27] <jldugger> which laptop do you have?
[11:29] <Altair> Toshiba Satellite M70.
[11:29] <jldugger> ah
[11:30] <Altair> One issue I was having was with wireless networking. It worked fine on networks without passkeys, but when it came to using a network with WEP/WPA or whatever, it simply did not want to connect.
[11:30] <jldugger> i think someone else already has that model reported -- all you'd need to do is verify and maybe add some comments ;)
[11:30] <Altair> I couldn't figure out why. In any case, it was a minor issue that was probably my own unfamiliarity.
[11:33] <jldugger> edgy is still kinda buggy -- lots of toshiba laptops seem to be having problems. some dont start X; mine does but i cant use the fn keys =/ there's a patch out thats supposed to fix it, hopefully it makes it out soon
[11:35] <Altair> Yeah. Well, with all the people working on it, I'm sure something will get done.
[11:35] <Altair> The beauty of open source.
[11:35] <jldugger> sometimes the beauty of open source is that you're the only one with that hardware ;)
[11:36] <Altair> A very good point.