[12:01] <Flannel> IconoclasticGoat: right, but what data?  personal data of your own? or every user?
[12:01] <anon32> ugh....
[12:01] <Subhuman> it either uses xine (the better one) or gstreamer (which uses open codecs, so therfore doesnt play as much)
[12:01] <johso> I was just about to reinstall Ubuntu Dapper, but my drive can't read the Ubuntu cd that I've just burned.  It works, I've just tested with another computer. What are my options?
[12:01] <anon32> last nooby question - how do I edit mp3 tags?
[12:01] <IconoclasticGoat> Flannel: This is my personal computer, so it doesn't really matter, so I'd say personal data.
[12:01] <johso> I was thinking if there were alternativ installation methods
[12:02] <evol_> johso: error message?
[12:02] <anon32> johso, apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:02] <IconoclasticGoat> Can two different file systems have the same mount point?
[12:03] <jstarcher> lol whats this process I have running 'hald'?
[12:03] <anon32> oh wait, are you not installing to the system you're on right now?
[12:03] <lamego> IconoclasticGoat, no
[12:03] <Arcad3> hi
[12:03] <lamego> its kind of obvious
[12:03] <Flannel> IconoclasticGoat: two different things can't be mounted to the same plcae no.  You could mount yours inside of your home folder,
[12:03] <anon32> hal is the hardware access library
[12:03] <IconoclasticGoat> Okay, I'll do that then.
[12:03] <Arcad3> i'm using LICE cD i need to write some files on HDD how do i do it?
[12:03] <anon32> d probably means daemon
[12:04] <Arcad3> *Live cd
[12:04] <anon32> Arcad3, file system type?
[12:04] <Arcad3> NTFS
[12:04] <anon32> and you mean Live CD right?
[12:04] <Arcad3> yes
[12:05] <IconoclasticGoat> Wait, could I simply format the partition?
[12:05] <anon32> Arcad3, um... for ntfs, you can try to use FUSE, but you'll probably wreck your partition if you try to write to it
[12:05] <anon32> get BartPE if you want NTFS write support
[12:05] <Arcad3> thanks
[12:06] <mwe> !ntfs-3g
[12:06] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[12:06] <knut_> how can i open a .deb file? (not install!)
[12:06] <sethk> IconoclasticGoat, what you are calling "format" is what I told you to do with mkfs.ext3
[12:06] <sethk> IconoclasticGoat, you mount the new space somewhere in the / tree, so you have access to it
[12:06] <anon32> knut_: p7-zip can extract them
[12:06] <sethk> IconoclasticGoat, everything is mounted under /
[12:07] <sethk> IconoclasticGoat, you might do something like:   mkdir /usr2    then    mount -t ext3 /dev/hda3 /usr2
[12:07] <anon32> there's probably other archivers that can do that too
[12:07] <IconoclasticGoat> sethk, okay, thank you.
[12:08] <IconoclasticGoat> sethk, but I'd have to edit fstab to have it mounted every time I boot the computer, right?
[12:08] <sethk> IconoclasticGoat, correct, yes
[12:08] <anon32> last question: what's better (yes, I know !best), mplayer or VLC?
[12:08] <sethk> IconoclasticGoat, you learn fast
[12:08] <codecaine> what does fstab stand for
[12:08] <anon32> IconoclasticGoat, yes
[12:08] <sethk> codecaine, file system table
[12:08] <codecaine> ty
[12:08] <anon32> filesystem table
[12:09] <anon32> I think
[12:09] <IconoclasticGoat> sethk: I ran into these problems after trying to edit fstab to get my NTFS partition read/write accessible under Ubuntu.  I'm using a dual-boot with Windows XP.  So after I screwed things up immensely I just decided to reinstall, and here I am.
[12:10] <sethk> IconoclasticGoat, ok.  you know that  NTFS writing from linux is unsafe, I assume.
[12:10] <IconoclasticGoat> Yes.
[12:10] <codecaine> no theres some good support now
[12:10] <Razor--> are there themes for ubuntu
[12:10] <codecaine> I do auto boot with read and right in fstab
[12:10] <erUSUL> !ntfs > IconoclasticGoat
[12:10] <codecaine> ntfs-3g
[12:11] <sethk> codecaine, it's better, but it is still not quite safe, or at least the jury is still out
[12:11] <anon32> IconoclasticGoat, it's probably a better idea to shrink your NTFS partition to the bare minimum needed for your apps and to write data to an ext3 FS (there's an XP driver for it)
[12:11] <erUSUL> IconoclasticGoat: use the diskmounter script found there
[12:11] <tecta> since i'm amd64 I can't use flash?
[12:11] <Razor--> Can any one tell me where i can get ubuntu(6.06) themes
[12:11] <evol_> tecta: there is no 64bit flash yet. try the 32 bit
[12:11] <THX-1138> http://gnomelook.org
[12:12] <tecta> evol_, how do i get the 32bit one?
[12:12] <THX-1138> http://gnome-look.org
[12:12] <anon32> Razor--, go to the themes control panel and click "get more themes"
[12:12] <Razor--> ..okey
[12:12] <anon32> be warned that Adobe Flash 7 for Linux has bugs all over
[12:13] <evol_> tecta: some people run the 32bit flash player in wine but maybe there's a 32 bit package you can install?
[12:13] <sethk> anon32, so does the windows version.  not as many, but still ...
[12:13] <tecta> evol_, do you use amd64 with flash?
[12:13] <Razor--> where is this themes folder
[12:13] <evol_> tecta: no
[12:13] <THX-1138> !flash > tecta
[12:13] <anon32> evol_: um, go to adobe.com and download their flash player for linux
[12:13] <knut_> anon ive installed p7zip, but there isnt a command named "p7zip" or other beginning with p7
[12:14] <Samuli^> what was the command to start x? startx? :)
[12:14] <Ciphe1> hello
[12:14] <gnomefreak> Samuli^: yes or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[12:14] <anon32> knut_, I forget what the exe is called... try 7z
[12:14] <sublime>  i want to sincronize my telephonemobile to the evolution whith multisync, someone can helme ?
[12:14] <gnomefreak> or replace gdm with kdm if thats what you use
[12:14] <erUSUL> Samuli^: /etc/init.d/gdm start ??
[12:14] <g333k_work> Flannel, I did what you told me and created a user, now when I log on with this user  I'm not alloed to do anything, why?
[12:14] <anon32> knut_, it's a port of 7-zip for windows, you see...
[12:15] <anon32> Samuli^, yes
[12:15] <anon32> how is NTFS support not open yet? MS does release documentation for it, don't they?
[12:15] <sethk> g333k_work, your new user has write privileges only in his home directory.  However, you should be able to run programs.
[12:15] <sethk> anon32, no
[12:15] <sethk> anon32, if they did, ntfs write would have been available years ago
[12:15] <Ciphe1> I get this problem when trying to play an mp3 in banshee
[12:15] <Ciphe1> Error: [10/6/2006 3:15:17 PM]  (Playback Error) - You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins.
[12:15] <mwe> anon32: no I think not
[12:15] <anon32> support not stable*
[12:16] <THX-1138> Hi Flannel
[12:16] <sethk> anon32, there is a web site where people upload little pieces of the ntfs puzzle as they figure them out
[12:16] <anon32> sethk, no?
[12:16] <sethk> anon32, it's quite an interesting site.
[12:16] <IconoclasticGoat> Okay, I have a major problem now.  I tried to edit fstab using the filebrowser, but I didn't have permission.  So I used sudo -i in the terminal to log as root, then closed the window, and now I can't open any new terminals.
[12:16] <tecta> isn't there a gnu flash program i can use for 64bit?
[12:16] <sethk> anon32, no, they militantly refuse to release the info.
[12:16] <g333k_work> sethk, I want to set up some system options, how can give my user permissions?
[12:16] <anon32> sethk, what's the site?
[12:17] <sethk> tecta, there is, it's reported to still be somewhat buggy
[12:17] <sethk> anon32, I found it a while ago, let me see if I still have it.
[12:17] <IconoclasticGoat> I get "Starting Terminal" on the menu bar and then it disappears.
[12:17] <g333k_work> sethk, I just to used sudo, but is not working now
[12:17] <Amaranth> Ciphe1: You have to install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[12:17] <tecta> sethk, does ubuntu have a build in the reps?
[12:17] <anon32> say, since someone leaked the Win2K source, can't we just reverse engineer that?
[12:17] <macsim> I've got a problem with gnome-term here is what I get when I enter macsime (http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/626/zarbky1.png) who can I fix it ?
[12:17] <sethk> g333k_work, you can set up sudo to allow your new user to do specific admin things.  You use the visudo command (as root)
[12:17] <Amaranth> anon32: I really don't want to have Microsoft sue me into the ground.
[12:17] <sethk> g333k_work, you'll see some examples in the file comments; also, do     man sudoers            for the format
[12:17] <anon32> g333k_work, you're not a member of group admins, which is the one which can sudo
[12:18] <anon32> Amaranth, but surely people have observed it and used it to deduce the nature of NTFS?
[12:18] <Amaranth> anon32: That's not legal.
[12:18] <sethk> Amaranth, I don't believe anyone can sue you for reverse engineering as long as you never saw any copyrighted MS code.
[12:18] <sethk> anon32, people have been trying for several years.  they seem to be almost, but not entirely, there.
[12:18] <Amaranth> anon32: Doing it without looking at the source code is exactly what is being done.
[12:18] <anon32> Amaranth, but that doesn't mean that nobody's done that before
[12:18] <sethk> anon32, they can read, and they can write to a file as long as they don't need to extend the file.
[12:19] <hockyhair> hello
[12:19] <Amaranth> sethk: ntfs-3g can write to files and such
[12:19] <sethk> anon32, I've heard that they believe they've solved the file extension problem, but I'm waiting for more data before I believe it.
[12:19] <Amaranth> sethk: and rather then trash your ntfs partition it just fails to do anything if it thinks something is wrong
[12:19] <tecta> hmm any idea when gnome 2.16 will be ready on ubuntu
[12:19] <THX-1138> The new statute "digital millenium copyright act" - is a new and intersting wrinkle.
[12:19] <sethk> Amaranth, it can, yes, but it's new and I like to be conservative
[12:19] <hockyhair> im having an issue with one of my partitions (ext3) saying its full at 60 when it's 65gb partition ive ran fsck and it did not solve the issue anyone have any ideas
[12:19] <Amaranth> tecta: The end of the month when you upgrade to Ubuntu 6.10
[12:19] <sethk> Amaranth, you've been able to set NTFS write on for four years.  the question isn't whether it can do it, the question is whether it can do it safely
[12:20] <tecta> Amaranth, cool thanks
[12:20] <anon32> Amaranth, I meant, surely someone's used the Win2K source to reverse-engineer NTFS, not everyone cares about the law
[12:20] <IconoclasticGoat> sethk, can you help me out here?  I used your command mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda3 and mounted the filesystem under /home/user, and now I can't open any terminals.  What's going on?
[12:20] <Amaranth> hockyhair: At least 5% is reserved for root
[12:20] <fgh_lo> quick question. i've been using ubuntu for a while now. can i pretty much use any linux tutorial (ubuntu) with another distro?
[12:20] <tannerld> can I create another partitian for ubuntu (for a dual boot with windows) while installing ubuntu?
[12:20] <anon32> hockyhair, mm, what's it report the free space as?
[12:20] <Amaranth> anon32: Why would they?
[12:20] <Amaranth> anon32: No one would use their work.
[12:20] <hockyhair> Amaranth: i have a seperate partition for /
[12:20] <gnomefreak> tannerld: yes the installer lets you
[12:20] <Amaranth> hockyhair: That doesn't matter
[12:20] <sethk> IconoclasticGoat, you mounted it over your home directory
[12:20] <hockyhair> Amaranth: ic..
[12:20] <tannerld> gnomefreak: ok,thanks
[12:20] <erUSUL> fgh_lo: it depends.... but for debian based ones, sure
[12:21] <sethk> IconoclasticGoat, you have to mount it _under_ your home directory, or somewhere else
[12:21] <gnomefreak> yw
[12:21] <Amaranth> hockyhair: Unless you set it at partition time the default is to reserve 5% for the root user
[12:21] <anon32> for large partitions, I use ReiserFS
[12:21] <sethk> IconoclasticGoat, but you can't cover up your home directory with it.  :)
[12:21] <fgh_lo> tannerld: yes. while @ the patition page of setup
[12:21] <hockyhair> im also having issues getting dri enabled, i am using the radeon driver for a radeon xpress 200m i have dri on set in xorg.conf
[12:21] <anon32> Amaranth, well, some people don't care about the legality of their work (DeCSS *cough*)
[12:21] <Ciphe1> thank you amaranth
[12:21] <IconoclasticGoat> sethk, well crap.  So now what do I do?
[12:21] <fgh_lo> erUSUL: how about opensuse?
[12:21] <kitche> hockyhair you can put stuff in /root and see if the thing goes up
[12:21] <THX-1138> tannerld: Ubuntu will find see your windows install and include it automatically in the boot menu
[12:21] <Amaranth> anon32: DeCSS is perfectly legal in the country it was made in
[12:21] <sethk> IconoclasticGoat, do you understand what I mean?   if you mount something on /home/user,  then whatever is on /home/user becomes invisible (just temporarily, of course)
[12:22] <sethk> IconoclasticGoat, if you have a prompt as root, umount it
[12:22] <IconoclasticGoat> I don't have a prompt as root.
[12:22] <sethk> IconoclasticGoat, and your real directory will reappear.
[12:22] <fgh_lo> erUSUL: but its not debain based
[12:22] <sethk> IconoclasticGoat, then reboot
[12:22] <anon32> Amaranth, DVD Decrypter *cough*
[12:22] <gnomefreak> IconoclasticGoat: sudo -i
[12:22] <tannerld> so I don't have to do anything to my windows partitian before I install ubuntu?
[12:22] <sethk> IconoclasticGoat, I assume you haven't put it into fstab yet.
[12:22] <IconoclasticGoat> gnomefreak: I can't open a terminal.
[12:22] <Amaranth> anon32: *shrug*
[12:22] <gnomefreak> tannerld: i would defrag it
[12:22] <IconoclasticGoat> sethk, that is correct.
[12:22] <sethk> tannerld, no, nothing
[12:22] <tannerld> gnomefreak: for a clean/new install of windows?
[12:22] <sethk> IconoclasticGoat, ok, if it's not yet in fstab, rebooting will solve it.  Had you set the root password, you could log in to a console and fix it.
[12:22] <Amaranth> anon32: Keep mentioning illegal programs/activities and I'll have to kick you.
[12:23] <anon32> tannerld, well, if your NTFS partition takes up all your disk space, you need to resize
[12:23] <hockyhair> is there docs for enabling dri or direct rendering with a raedon driver
[12:23] <fgh_lo> tannerld: just install windows and ubuntu and grub detects windows for you
[12:23] <erUSUL> fgh_lo: suse uses yast to configure the system and many things under fstab wioll be diferent (no /etc/network/interfaces but yes /etc/fstab)
[12:23] <anon32> Amaranth, um....
[12:23] <sethk> erUSUL, many things under /etc, not under /etc/fstab
[12:23] <gnomefreak> tannerld: i would just incase (i dont know where the files are stored when windows is installed but on a new install tis not a big deal
[12:23] <erUSUL> * many things under /etc/ *
[12:23] <sethk> erUSUL, in /usr/rc*, etc.
[12:23] <sethk> right  :)
[12:23] <tannerld> anon32: not using the partician manger in ubuntu?
[12:23] <THX-1138> !ati > hockeyhair
[12:23] <anon32> Amaranth, by the way, since when was free speech illegal?
[12:23] <erUSUL> sethk: ;)
[12:23] <sureshot> !pastbin
[12:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:24] <IconoclasticGoat> sethk, before I reboot, I want to ask something.  This is about 11GB, so it's not an insignificant portion of my hard drive.  Will I be able to save any data to the new folder I create, and *just* that folder?
[12:24] <Amaranth> anon32: Your first amendment rights do not apply here.
[12:24] <tannerld> free speech is not "free" everywhere :P
[12:24] <sureshot> how do i past to past bin
[12:24] <gnomefreak> anon32: in some countries it is and please move this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:24] <fgh_lo> erUSUL: whats the next step up in ur opinion from ubuntu. besides fedora?
[12:24] <Amaranth> anon32: Those only involve your interactions with the government.
[12:24] <THX-1138> anon32 - be nice to the ops they are working hard.
[12:25] <anon32> that's nice, your +o doesn't impress me, although I'm done on the subject of Win2K source and DeCSS
[12:25] <hockyhair> ok lastly i cannot for the life of me get identd service working in ubuntu i have tried midentd oidentd and pidentd, port 113 is fowarded in firestarter as well as in my router.. i can telnet localhost 113 so i know its open
[12:25] <erUSUL> fgh_lo: next step?
[12:25] <Amaranth> anon32: Thank you.
[12:25] <hockyhair> !ati
[12:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:25] <Razor--> Very important question does anyone know of anyway to get Dreamweaver on Ubuntu 6.06
[12:25] <gnomefreak> Razor--: good luck on that
[12:25] <sureshot> !pastbin
[12:25] <gnomefreak> Razor--: nvu is close to it in ways
[12:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:25] <kitche> Razor--: it doesn't work in wine?
[12:25] <Razor--> so no
[12:25] <gnomefreak> sureshot: try .msg ubotu pastebin
[12:25] <sureshot> can someone bot me pastbin please
[12:25] <THX-1138> Amaranth: @amaranth = logged as ops?
[12:25] <Razor--> is that a no
[12:25] <anon32> are the ATI drivers better than the free ones (no preaching about OSS please)?
[12:26] <gnomefreak> kitche: no wine isnt strong enough for it
[12:26] <fgh_lo> erUSUL: well, ubuntu is the first thing a newbie should use next to mandriva. whats the next distro i should choose?
[12:26] <gnomefreak> THX-1138: yes
[12:26] <fgh_lo> erUSUL: in ur opnion of course
[12:26] <kitche> gnomefreak: ah I don'y use dreamweaver anymore so I wouldn't know
[12:26] <Amaranth> anon32: They're faster for OpenGL apps but can break things like suspend.
[12:26] <gnomefreak> you can get it to run in wine if your one of the rare lucky ones
[12:26] <gnomefreak> kitche: me neither
[12:26] <gnomefreak> :)
[12:26] <THX-1138> gnomefreak - It's just that i see them log in and out quikly as if it were dangerous.
[12:26] <anon32> fgh_lo, Fedora Core
[12:26] <hockyhair> is it possible to enable dri with the radeon driver that comes with ubuntu insted of fglrx, alot of things i use donot play nice with fglrx
[12:26] <Amaranth> anon32: And they don't have GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap so you have to use XGL to use compiz/beryl.
[12:27] <fgh_lo> erUSUL: lol. :
[12:27] <anon32> oh
[12:27] <fgh_lo> erUSUL: what else. fedora acts funny with me
[12:27] <fraroco> my vocice spekers of my lap top sings so slow,, what do I have to do?
[12:27] <erUSUL> fgh_lo: i'm a fairly advanced user and i use ubuntu. i find no reason to use another distro
[12:27] <Amaranth> anon32: Basically the proprietary drivers are worse in every way except OpenGL performance.
[12:27] <anon32> well, seeing as there's no games for Linux, I don't care enough about 3-d acceleration to break stuff for it
[12:28] <mohuhau> i got a problem where on eth0 my ip is set static, and eth1 is set with dhcp, but a couple of seconds after i the ip is sent i am ALSO getting an 169.254. address on both interfaces! They still have the dhcp/static addresses but ifconfig only shows the 169.254
[12:28] <Amaranth> anon32: Don't be a troll, there are games for Linux and you can always use Cedega/WINE to play Windows games.
[12:28] <anon32> Amaranth, thanks
[12:28] <hockyhair> that ati link says nothing about dri
[12:28] <hockyhair> im intrested in enabling direct rendering for games
[12:28] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: can we +m the room for a bit maybe than ill stop seeing the use fedora adn all the other offtopicness :(
[12:28] <anon32> somewhat flamebait question: why are there no F/OSS games that rival commercial ones?
[12:28] <Amaranth> gnomefreak: haha
[12:28] <fraroco> my vocice spekers of my lap top sings so slow,, what do I have to do?
[12:28] <fgh_lo> erUSUL: well i want to try other distros since im new. i might as well try. dont u think? what do u think is a another good distro?
[12:29] <gnomefreak> brb
[12:29] <fraroco> my voice spekers of my lap top sings so slow,, what do I have to do?
[12:29] <fraroco> my voice speakers of my lap top sings so slow,, what do I have to do?
[12:29] <Amaranth> fraroco: Don't repeat.
[12:29] <kitche> fraroco: don't repeat that fast at least wait 30 minutes before you repeat
[12:29] <harisund> mohuhau, let em try to understand what you have asked. eth0 is static and eth1 is set to DHCP right? What do you connect each one to?
[12:29] <Amaranth> fraroco: Are you saying the sound is very quiet?
[12:29] <gnomefreak> anon32: now take the offtopic chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:29] <fraroco> Amaranth: yeah ..
[12:29] <unfknblvbl> i wish my computer sang instead of beeping
[12:30] <anon32> that's nice... kick me for asking a perfectly valid question
[12:30] <Amaranth> fraroco: What kind of computer?
[12:30] <erUSUL> fgh_lo: if you want to experiment i will recomend fedora as it is another widely user dist and it is the base of a few others (red hat, centos etc)
[12:30] <Amaranth> anon32: It's off-topic in this channel.
[12:30] <fraroco> Amaranth: it is a laptop hp
[12:30] <gnomefreak> anon32: flame questions are not needed in here
[12:30] <Amaranth> fraroco: dv8000?
[12:30] <Amaranth> fraroco: It says under the screen.
[12:30] <fgh_lo> erUSUL: thx for ur help
[12:30] <THX-1138> anon32: Please stay on topic.
[12:30] <bigmoe> could someone tell me what is the best playing and ripping dvds in ubuntu
[12:31] <erUSUL> fgh_lo: np
[12:31] <anon32> god...
[12:31] <sureshot> anon32 was your question pertaining to a problem with a problem in upbuntu dapper drake
[12:31] <fraroco> Amaranth: it is a laptop hp dv1325
[12:31] <anon32> by the way, nobody answered this question: what's better, mplayer or VLC?
[12:31] <Augustuss> hey
[12:31] <fgh_lo> anon32: vlc
[12:31] <THX-1138> sureshot > !best
[12:31] <Augustuss> could someone please help me with my little floppy disk problem?
[12:31] <anon32> sureshot, a problem with a problem?
[12:32] <Sam_Barranco> anyone had dapper rename NIC's on reboots?
[12:32] <Augustuss> cant write anything to it
[12:32] <anon32> fgh_lo, why?
[12:32] <johso> I just found this guide, and made myself a dapper version of it. The only problem now is that my laptop doesn't have any 'boot from flash disk' option. I can choose between floppy (which isn't in it), cdrom (which is broken) and of course, the harddisk. can I somehow get grub, or something, to boot my flashdisk?
[12:32] <bigmoe> is ubotu still running??
[12:32] <sureshot> a tech. problem is what i ment to say this is a tech info channel .. doing to many things at once
[12:32] <fgh_lo> anon32: imo, its more verstile and user friendly.
[12:32] <johso> sorry, missing link: http://www.bigmaninjapan.com/2005/10/16/install-ubuntu-510-breezy-from-a-flash-disk/
[12:32] <hockyhair> has anyone gotten identd working with ubuntu?
[12:32] <Amaranth> fraroco: Oh, I don't know then. I know my dv8000 has quiet sound unless I hibernate in Ubuntu, boot Windows, turn the sound all the way up, then reboot into Ubuntu.
[12:32] <kitche> johso: grub can boot flash I believe
[12:32] <fgh_lo> anon32: but thats just me
[12:33] <CromagDK> whats with the unrar app...
[12:33] <Augustuss> anyone figured out how to copy files to a floppy disk?
[12:33] <CromagDK> tells me randomly that rar files have CRC errors.. :S
[12:33] <johso> kitche: how would I go about doing that?
[12:33] <anon32> gah, when I backed up my files from NTFS, I copied the thumbs.db files too :-(
[12:33] <kitche> CromagDK: probably because the rar files do have errors
[12:33] <erUSUL> Augustuss: mount it and use cp ?? or use mtools
[12:33] <THX-1138> CromagDK: there are 2 vers. free (earlier filetype) and non free
[12:33] <darkanyel> hi, anyone know how to change the ubuntu icon on Applications ???
[12:33] <anon32> CromagDK, well, do they have CRC errors?
[12:33] <fraroco> Amaranth: I will try it thaks de cualquier forma.!
[12:34] <anon32> fgh_lo, ok, thanks
[12:34] <hockyhair> ok so dri?
[12:34] <kitche> johso: I m not sure myself but there is a grub howto on how to do it
[12:34] <bigmoe> !msg ubotu
[12:34] <willys_fueguino> I need someone to recomend me a keylogger
[12:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msg ubotu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:34] <CromagDK> kitche THX-1138 and anon32 no crc errors. it packed out just before. after 3 tries. first 3 files CRC error, then i tried again then 2, and i tried again and it worked..
[12:34] <nobody_lv> willys_fueguino: that's evil :D
[12:34] <willys_fueguino> I cant find one for linux in google... and lkl doesnt works well....
[12:34] <anon32> willys_fueguino, might I enquire why?
[12:35] <bigmoe> ubotu: dvd
[12:35] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:35] <anon32> what's Seveas mean?
[12:35] <darkanyel> hi, anyone know how to change the ubuntu icon on Applications ???
[12:35] <kitche> willys_fueguino: I can't say my suggestion in here but there is a tons on the net
[12:36] <nobody_lv> willys_fueguino: http://www.google.lv/search?q=key+logger+download+for+linux&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[12:36] <johso> kitche: I can only find stuff relating to booting grub from a flash disk...
[12:36] <surabachi> hey
[12:36] <mohuhau> after my ip is assigned on eth0 and eth1 i get an additional 169.254. address set on both eth0 and eth1: output from route http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25844/
[12:36] <anon32> darkanyel, um... I'm sure there's an obscure way to do it, but why do you want to?
[12:36] <willys_fueguino> anon32, its cause I want to know absolutely everything that my girlfriend writes on my PC
[12:37] <nobody_lv> willys_fueguino: don't worry... she is cheating on you already
[12:37] <nobody_lv> wit me ... :D
[12:37] <willys_fueguino> xDD
[12:37] <CromagDK> and now when i try again it tells me errors in totaly different files heheh
[12:37] <CromagDK> :D
[12:37] <anon32> willys_fueguino, I /clear ed the second you typed that, can you repeat?
 anon32, its cause I want to know absolutely everything that my girlfriend writes on my PC
[12:37] <dyn-afk> that's what he said
[12:37] <willys_fueguino> xDD
[12:37] <willys_fueguino> yeap. thats it
[12:38] <dyn-afk> copy-paste is nice :P
[12:38] <anon32> willys_fueguino, if she has a firewall, it'll almost definitely find a software keylogger and then you'll be in trouble
[12:38] <anon32> anti-virus*
[12:38] <Amaranth> s/firewall/antivirus/
[12:38] <nobody_lv> hey people, in which timezone you are?
[12:38] <kitche> mohuhau: can you paste what your ifconfig outputs also
[12:38] <Gizmo_the_Great1> trying to run mprime, the Prime95 app for Linux. I've tried 'mprime' and './mprime' and I've made it executable. But every time I get "bash: ./mprime: No such file or directory". Any ideas?
[12:38] <willys_fueguino> anon32, in my computer I said...
[12:38] <Amaranth> nobody_lv: Central Daylight Time
[12:38] <anon32> oh wait, youre PC... nvm
[12:38] <willys_fueguino> nobody_lv, gmt -3
[12:39] <nobody_lv> 01:38:06 < Amaranth> nobody_lv: Central Daylight Time
[12:39] <tecta> what do i need to play wma files?
[12:39] <nobody_lv> it is night there :)
[12:39] <nobody_lv> +2 or +3
[12:39] <erUSUL> tecta: w32codecs
[12:39] <kitche> Gizmo_the_Great1: is mprime in your /home directory?
[12:39] <nobody_lv> I need to look :)
[12:39] <Amaranth> nobody_lv: No, that's Australian Central Standard Time
[12:39] <nobody_lv> ah
[12:39] <Amaranth> nobody_lv: GMT-5
[12:39] <nobody_lv> I am from Baltic states - Latvia :)
[12:39] <Gizmo_the_Great1> kitche:   it was in a folder I created called 'mprime' in /home
[12:40] <tecta> erUSUL, i don't see it in any rep.?
[12:40] <willys_fueguino> nobody_lv, im from Tierra del Fuego, Argentina ;-)
[12:40] <Gizmo_the_Great1> kitche: but i have a;lso copied it to usr/local/bin but same prob
[12:40] <erUSUL> !seveas > tecta
[12:40] <anon32> !seveas
[12:40] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:40] <kitche> Gizmo_the_Great1 and you changed to /home/<user>/mprime or is it in /home/mprime since you won't have permissions to see /home/mprime
[12:41] <nobody_lv> naiss... willys_fueguino don't you wonder, how can your girlfriend cheat on you with me?
[12:41] <hockyhair> so i switched back to fglrx and glinfo still show direct rendering: no
[12:41] <willys_fueguino> nobody_lv, trough the net ;-)
[12:41] <IconoclasticGoat> This may sound like a stupid question, but how can I edit text files such as /etc/fstab?  I don't have emacs (apparently) and I don't know how to use vi.
[12:41] <nobody_lv> :)
[12:41] <Augustuss> someone help me copy some files to a floppy disk please!
[12:41] <nobody_lv> ye... Optical cable :D
[12:41] <ChocoCid> IconoclasticGoat : use gedit
[12:41] <anon32> willys_fueguino, this is IRC and FreeNode, you don't have a girlfriend :-p
[12:42] <willys_fueguino> xDD
[12:42] <ka6sox> Powerbook`, have you installed dapper?
[12:42] <IconoclasticGoat> ChocoCid: thanks
[12:42] <Gizmo_the_Great1> kitche: it is in /home/ted/mprime
[12:42] <erUSUL> IconoclasticGoat: use nano or gedit (sudo nano file ; gksudo gedit file)
[12:42] <anon32> IconoclasticGoat, there's gedit, but you need the GUI for that
[12:42] <nobody_lv> arrgh... who is using floppy nowedays?
[12:42] <ChocoCid> gedit is basically the same as notepad on windows if you've used that, so should be fairly straightforward
[12:42] <Augustuss> nobody_lv,
[12:42] <Augustuss> me
[12:42] <Augustuss> :P
[12:42] <nobody_lv> Augustuss: mount floppy disk
[12:42] <nobody_lv> then coppy files there
[12:42] <erUSUL> nobody_lv: me, but less and less everyday....
[12:43] <nobody_lv> then simple unmount floppy
[12:43] <tecta> erUSUL, so just add http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/ to sources.list
[12:43] <g333k_work> How can I give permissions to modify system options?
[12:43] <dave__> is there a front end for usb mp3 players for ubuntu im missing?
[12:43] <erUSUL> tecta: yes,
[12:43] <nobody_lv> it is easy, if you use disk mounter
[12:43] <dave__> i cant even mount it
[12:43] <nobody_lv> it is gnome applet
[12:43] <tecta> eracc, and all for reps?
[12:43] <dave__> seems like im missing something
[12:43] <dave__> disk mounter
[12:43] <kitche> dave__: does it have a hard drive or does it use flash memory?
[12:44] <eracc> tecta, sure, I guess. Or did you mean erUSUL?
[12:44] <tecta> err yeah sorry
[12:44] <eracc> Hee hee
[12:44] <kitche> dave__: but look up banshee
[12:44] <dave__> im not really sure , its actually a cellphone
[12:44] <Augustuss>  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg
[12:44] <Augustuss> hmm
[12:44] <dave__> but it works as an mp3 player
[12:44] <dave__> it shows up as
 ive got it mounted
 and just formated it
 but when i try to copy to it
 just says it doesnt have any room
 but when i right click and look in the properties, i dont have write access there
[12:44] <nobody_lv> maybe I need some sleep?
 :s
 ideas?
[12:44] <dave__> LG Electronics, Inc. VX4400/VX6000 Cellphone
[12:44] <nobody_lv> Augustuss: sudo
[12:44] <nobody_lv> :)
[12:45] <kitche> dave__: ah ok well you need special software for a cellphone
[12:45] <Augustuss> hmm
[12:45] <g333k_work> How can I give permissions to modify system options?
[12:45] <nobody_lv> sudo mc
[12:45] <nobody_lv> and coppy what you need
[12:45] <Augustuss> nobody_lv, i suck at entering commands.. wanna be more "excact" ? ^^
[12:45] <dave__> think it exists?
[12:45] <nobody_lv> Augustuss: do you know what is mc?
[12:45] <Augustuss> not rly
[12:45] <Augustuss> :s
[12:45] <erUSUL> Augustuss: check your user permisions System>Admin>User and groups. make sure you have the right to use floppies
[12:46] <nobody_lv> it's file mannager, like Norton Commander or Far in windows
[12:46] <nobody_lv> sudo apt-get install mc
[12:46] <g333k_work> Can somebody tell me why my user is not able to modify anything ?
[12:46] <erUSUL> g333k_work: add user to admin group
[12:46] <buzzy> !maya
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about maya - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <g333k_work> erUSUL, ok
[12:46] <buzzy> !3d
[12:46] <dave__> o well thanks
[12:46] <nobody_lv> sudo mc and you will understand everything
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <Augustuss> erUSUL, ive got rights to write everywhere
[12:46] <Augustuss> nobody_lv, i will try that MC
[12:46] <nobody_lv> try
[12:47] <g333k_work> erUSUL, I will have to do booting in single mode right?
[12:47] <nobody_lv> I can't live without it
[12:47] <nobody_lv> :)
[12:47] <anon32> why the heck is the ability to use floppies and CDs its own permission?
[12:47] <Gizmo_the_Great1> Why on Earth will this executable not run : 3.9M -rwxr-xr-x 1 ted ted 3.9M 2005-08-09 20:47 mprime
[12:47] <erUSUL> Augustuss: just as you need to be in audio group to use soundcard you need to be in group floppy to use floppies
[12:47] <nobody_lv> Gizmo_the_Great1: chmod +x executable :)
[12:47] <nobody_lv> if it is bash script :)
[12:47] <Augustuss> erUSUL, ?
[12:48] <tecta> erUSUL, i added it and it says 404 when i do apt-get update
[12:48] <tecta> erUSUL, Failed to fetch http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/dapper/all/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[12:48] <Gizmo_the_Great1> nobody_lv: its already executable matey
[12:48] <erUSUL> Augustuss: 'grep floppy /etc/group' and check that your username is in the line it will print
[12:48] <Supermiguel> i cant boot to ubuntu is telling me error 21 :S
[12:48] <nobody_lv> Gizmo_the_Great1: paste an error
[12:49] <Abst> Is there a way to get a keyboard shortcut for the system menu (like Alt + F1)?
[12:49] <Supermiguel> any way to fix that?
[12:49] <Abst> !no
[12:49] <ubotu> Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[12:49] <Gizmo_the_Great1> nobody_lv:  ./mprime: No such file or directory
[12:49] <erUSUL> tecta: i use 32bit 386 w32codecs is only 32 bits (note thw 32 in the name ;))
[12:49] <buzzy> people should one install a firewall on ubuntu?
[12:49] <nobody_lv> Gizmo_the_Great1: no such file or directory :)
[12:50] <tecta> erUSUL, i can'
[12:50] <erUSUL> !firewall
[12:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[12:50] <THX-1138> Abst - Yes, gconf-editor  /apps/metacity
[12:50] <tecta> erUSUL, i cant sense i'm 64?
[12:50] <Abst> THX-1138: Okay
[12:50] <Augustuss> erUSUL, "floppy:x:25:haldaemon,simo"
[12:50] <erUSUL> tecta: ??
[12:50] <Augustuss> and "simo" is my username
[12:50] <Gizmo_the_Great1> nobody_lv: butg it's there. that why i posted the original file attributes produced by ls
[12:50] <tecta> erUSUL, i can't use win32codecs sense i'm 64bit?
[12:50] <Augustuss> so i have write access ? but it still whines about theres no room..
[12:50] <Abst> THX-1138: then what
[12:50] <buzzy> !maya
[12:50] <erUSUL> tecta: no, i'm afraid not
[12:50] <buzzy> people should one install a firewall on ubuntu?
[12:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about maya - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:51] <tecta> erUSUL, :S
[12:51] <nobody_lv> Gizmo_the_Great1: hmm... than maybe try sh file
[12:51] <nobody_lv> or sh ./file
[12:51] <erUSUL> Augustuss: floppies are fragile maybe yours is broken?
[12:51] <Gizmo_the_Great1> nobody_lv: lol...already have done buddy. this is why i stuck
[12:51] <nobody_lv> hehe :)
[12:51] <Augustuss> erUSUL, no its working ^^
[12:51] <Gizmo_the_Great1> nobody_lv: it says cannot execute binary file
[12:51] <nobody_lv> ghmm
[12:52] <nobody_lv> but it is binary? or script?
[12:52] <Augustuss> hmm
[12:52] <Gizmo_the_Great1> binary i think. 3.8Mb
[12:52] <Augustuss> erUSUL,
[12:52] <Augustuss> now i could copy some files there
[12:52] <nobody_lv> Gizmo_the_Great1: than it is broken
[12:52] <Augustuss> but howto "write" them now?
[12:53] <Gizmo_the_Great1> nobody_lv: Do'H
[12:53] <nobody_lv> Augustuss: cp file target/directory
[12:53] <sethk> Gizmo_the_Great1, if it is really executable, do   chmod +x filename          and then you will be able to run it.
[12:53] <nobody_lv> or sudo cp
[12:53] <Supermiguel> there is any way to repair the boot partition on my hard drive
[12:54] <Supermiguel> is giving me grub error 21
[12:54] <sethk> Supermiguel, sure, if you know what the partition layout should be
[12:54] <Gizmo_the_Great1> sethk: already have done matey - did not work
[12:54] <Supermiguel> sethk: lay out?
[12:54] <sethk> Supermiguel, let me look up what 21 is.
[12:54] <erUSUL> Augustuss: i do not know what may be wrong sorry. i'm out of ideas
[12:54] <sethk> Gizmo_the_Great1, try this:     file filename        see what type of file it is
[12:54] <tecta> what rep do i need to get frostwire
[12:54] <sethk> Supermiguel, I was thinking your boot sector is bad.  You meant root file system, I guess.
[12:55] <nobody_lv> ok... I'm done
[12:55] <Supermiguel> yep
[12:55] <Renan_s2> !paste
[12:55] <nobody_lv> I wana sleep :)
[12:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:55] <sethk> Supermiguel, some configuration will have a boot partition, but that's not the one you are talking about.
[12:55] <Supermiguel> there is any way to fix that
[12:55] <sethk> Supermiguel, in any event, yes, it can most likely be fixed.  What's the error you are getting?
[12:55] <nobody_lv> ar labu nakti tauta (Good night people [in Latvian] )
[12:55] <sethk> Supermiguel, wait, you told me.  :)
[12:55] <sethk> Supermiguel, let me look up error 21, hold on.
[12:55] <Wulong> What am I doing wrong here? does exactly like written in manual or am I? http://pastebin.ca/193052
[12:56] <sethk> Supermiguel, that's an error in the configuration, not an error in the file system itself
[12:56] <Supermiguel> so...
[12:56] <sethk> Supermiguel, which is good, it means your files are not damaged
[12:56] <Supermiguel> how do i fixed
[12:57] <sethk> Supermiguel, do you have the grub configuration file?  (/boot/grub/menu.lst)?
[12:57] <sethk> Supermiguel, if you can't boot the system, you can get at the config file by booting the live cd
[12:57] <Supermiguel> im using a live cd i cant access to my hard drive :(
[12:57] <Supermiguel> there is any way to mount it?
[12:57] <sethk> Supermiguel, wait.  you said you are getting an error 21
[12:57] <Dr_willis> Supermiguel,  proper use of the mount command should allow it.
[12:58] <sethk> Supermiguel, that has nothing to do with mounting.
[12:58] <Supermiguel> i know
[12:58] <sethk> Supermiguel, so, tell us, what exactly did you do which got an error 21?
[12:58] <Supermiguel> but you told me if i have the grub.list
[12:58] <ClayG> anyone here use the famous hp 4 laserjet with nix?
[12:58] <sethk> Supermiguel, right
[12:58] <Supermiguel> sethk: so to be able to access to it i have to mount my hard drive?
[12:58] <ClayG> I have it working on the network, but it seems slow, sort of pausing after each page
[12:58] <sethk> Supermiguel, right
[12:58] <ClayG> i want it to do its thing
[12:58] <sethk> Supermiguel, do you know which partition to mount?
[12:58] <ClayG> is there a non-windows solution for this?
[12:59] <Supermiguel> i do
[12:59] <sethk> Supermiguel, as in hda1, hda2, hdb1, etc.?
[12:59] <Supermiguel> hda1
[12:59] <Supermiguel> is my
[12:59] <Supermiguel> but is not letting me mounted it
[12:59] <sethk> Supermiguel, good.  the file system type?   ext3?
[12:59] <Supermiguel> yep
[12:59] <krazykit> google isn't helping:  using ati-drivers (fglrx), does enabling composite still disable hardware accel?
[01:00] <sethk> who put a sudoers file on pastebin.ca?
[01:00] <Supermiguel> how do i mount a hard drive
[01:00] <Dr_willis> sethk,  i am guessung Wulong
[01:00] <sethk> Supermiguel, ok, let's try to mount it on  /mnt/hda1   you can create that directory with mkdir /mnt/hda1.   mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[01:00] <Supermiguel> i can see it but cant access to it
[01:00] <Dr_willis> Wulong,  what ARE you trying to do exactly?
[01:00] <Draccy> Are the winehq wine packages built with GCC 4.x?
[01:00] <sethk> Wulong, what's the problem?
[01:01] <sethk> Wulong, I see a sudoers file, but no errors or anything.
[01:01] <sethk> Supermiguel, did you try that mount statement?
[01:01] <Supermiguel> yep
[01:01] <Supermiguel> but it says
[01:01] <Supermiguel> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,
[01:01] <Supermiguel>        missing codepage or other error
[01:01] <Supermiguel>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[01:01] <Supermiguel>        dmesg | tail  or so
[01:02] <hockyhair> hey, want to let you guys know i got dri enabled.. the info i got here did not help, !ati did not help.. the link that did help is as follows: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Installing_Edgy.27s_Included_Driver_.288.28.8.29
[01:02] <tecta> what rep. gets limewire / frostwire?
[01:02] <hockyhair> please add it to your db
[01:02] <BankHead> not sure
[01:02] <hockyhair> have a nice day
[01:02] <Dr_willis> !info frostwire
[01:02] <SeanTater> sethk: if you have them installed, file, from the command line will tell you
[01:02] <ubotu> Package frostwire does not exist in any distro I know
[01:02] <sethk> Supermiguel, ok.  are you certain it is hda1?   do this:    fdisk -l /dev/hda
[01:02] <Dr_willis> !info limewire
[01:02] <ubotu> Package limewire does not exist in any distro I know
[01:02] <tecta> ...
[01:02] <Dr_willis> !limewire
[01:02] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[01:02] <sethk> SeanTater, not sure who you meant that for, but not me.
[01:02] <tecta> !FrostWire
[01:02] <Supermiguel> cannot open /dev/hda
[01:02] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[01:03] <SeanTater> sethk: oops, sorry
[01:03] <SeanTater> Draccy: : if you have them installed, file, from the command line will tell you
[01:03] <sethk> SeanTater, :)
[01:03] <SeanTater> sethk: :)
[01:03] <sethk> Supermiguel, either it isn't really hda, or you have a driver problem.  are you using SATA by any chance?
[01:04] <Supermiguel> ok
[01:04] <Supermiguel> i got in
[01:04] <Supermiguel> :) it was hda2
[01:04] <erUSUL> !enter
[01:04] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[01:05] <BHSPitLappy> !wifi
[01:05] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:05] <Supermiguel> sethk: i have the grub list
[01:05] <Wulong> sethk: I have to type the password, which I shouldn
[01:06] <Wulong> sethk: I have to type the password, which I shouldn't do, since i have NOPASSWD there.
[01:06] <Wulong> Dr_willis too^
[01:06] <|chris3|> hello all
[01:06] <tecta> !FrostWire
[01:06] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[01:06] <Supermiguel> sethk: are you there?
[01:06] <Supermiguel> !paste
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[01:06] <sethk> Supermiguel, yes, hold on a moment
[01:07] <|chris3|> I could use some help with grub
[01:07] <sethk> Wulong, make sure you don't have any embedded tabs in the line
[01:07] <Supermiguel> sethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25848/
[01:07] <|chris3|> I had to reimage my linux box and I moved the linux partion from hda3 to hda1 and grub has not been liking that
[01:07] <bsdfox> is it possible to wirelessly bridge two wifi routers? (a crappy netgear and a decent dlink)? I just want to make the netgear a range extender but I can't get the two to be on the same network.. do I need to set the MAC to be the same or what?!
[01:07] <sethk> Supermiguel, ok, one moment.
[01:08] <|chris3|> I have fixed the fstab and menu.lst
[01:08] <THX-1138> !grub > |chris3|
[01:08] <|chris3|> also I have use grub to run root and setup commmands and ran grub-install
[01:08] <tecta> Starting MythTV server: mythbackendQSettings: error creating /root/.qt
[01:08] <tecta> Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[01:08] <ladydoor> |chris3|: what partition is /boot on?
[01:08] <sethk> Wulong, that is, only one tab on the line, between the user name and the rest.
[01:08] <|chris3|> ladydoor: /dev/hda1
[01:08] <THX-1138> Hi ladydoor
[01:09] <ladydoor> THX-1138: hiya
[01:09] <sethk> Supermiguel, you have only the one partition, which is hda2?  no separate boot partition?
[01:09] <Dr_willis> Wulong,  personally i set the suid bit on the shutdown command so all users can run it. :P  but not sure how safe that is. :)
[01:09] <Supermiguel> sethk: i have windows installed on hda1
[01:09] <ladydoor> |chris3|: ah, ok...hm. would you mind pasting the kernel entry for ubuntu to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org?
[01:09] <sethk> Supermiguel, ok, but only one linux partition?
[01:09] <|chris3|> thank you thx-1138
[01:09] <Supermiguel> yep
[01:09] <Wulong> sethk: I only have 1 tab there yes.
[01:09] <tecta> anyhelp with mythtv?
[01:09] <|chris3|> ladydoor: sure one min
[01:10] <Supermiguel> sethk: one swap one ext3 and one extended
[01:10] <bsdfox> tecta, what is your problem
[01:10] <Wulong> Dr_willis: hm, I'll try that, don't know if Xfce4 will accept it:/
[01:10] <tecta> bsdfox, during mythtv-setup it says: Starting MythTV server: mythbackendQSettings: error creating /root/.qt
[01:10] <tecta> Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[01:10] <sethk> Wulong, I'm looking at my sudoers file.  I have username tab ALL {space} NOPASSWD: {space} /sbin/shutdown
[01:10] <sethk> Wulong, although the spaces shouldn't matter
[01:10] <Dr_willis> Wulong,  Xfce wont give a Flying fig about anything ya doi in the consolw. :P
[01:11] <THX-1138> !paste > tecta
[01:11] <Dr_willis> heh...
[01:11] <bsdfox> tecta, looks like a permissions issue
[01:11] <tecta> bsdfox, i'm root so
[01:11] <sethk> Supermiguel, ok, now, which is your extended partition?
[01:11] <Supermiguel> hda3
[01:11] <Wulong> Dr_willis: it will, because its using sudo shutdown, to shutdown, I guess.
[01:11] <Wulong> If it don't work in console, it won't work in Xfce4
[01:12] <Dr_willis> Wulong,   edit it to just use shutdown.. :P
[01:12] <Wulong> How? where?
[01:12] <Dr_willis> of course i normally TYPE the command..
[01:12] <bsdfox> tecta, try running it not as root
[01:12] <Wulong> I want to use GUI
[01:12] <sethk> Supermiguel, can you put the output of     fdisk -l /dev/hda         on the paste site?
[01:12] <|chris3|> ladydoor: done number 25850
[01:12] <Dr_willis> Wulong,  make an icon that runs shutdown then
[01:12] <ladydoor> |chris3|: could you just paste the whole link, please? :-)
[01:13] <Dr_willis> or double check the xfce settings..  its proberly configurable as to what runs when those shutdown/whtever buttons are pressed.
[01:13] <|chris3|> sure
[01:13] <Supermiguel> !paste
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[01:13] <Wulong> Want to use the Xfce4 menu, should work. Dr_willis no, checked already.
[01:13] <Dr_willis> I tend to Logout of the window manager, then use the gdm shutdown feature
[01:13] <sethk> Supermiguel, you can try this on the kernel line:   kernel   (hd0,1)/boot/vm............
[01:13] <Zarephath> I upgraded to kernel 2.6.15-27-386...I don't see the kernel headers and such that vmware will need to install vmware server? All I see listed is 2.4*
[01:13] <Supermiguel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25851/
[01:13] <|chris3|> ladydoor: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25850
[01:13] <sethk> Supermiguel, ok, looking
[01:13] <Supermiguel> thats my fdisk -l
[01:14] <|chris3|> ladydoor: sorry I am newbie never used paste before :)
[01:14] <ladydoor> |chris3|: np
[01:14] <sethk> Supermiguel, the mount succeeded after you changed it to hda2?  It must have, otherwise you couldn't have pasted the file.  :)
[01:14] <|chris3|> ladydoor: I will say that it is a great system
[01:14] <sethk> Supermiguel, try putting   (hd0,1)/boot/........    on the kernel line instead of just    /boot/......
[01:14] <tecta> bsdfox, k it works, how do i make the mythtv user / pass ?
[01:14] <Supermiguel> where
[01:14] <sethk> Supermiguel, in menu.lst
[01:15] <sethk> brb
[01:15] <ladydoor> |chris3|: sweet. ok, first, do you have a link called boot in your /boot dir?
[01:15] <|chris3|> ladydoor: no
[01:15] <ladydoor> |chris3|: ok, are you in a terminal right now?
[01:16] <willys_fueguino> I need help installing thc vlogger
[01:16] <Supermiguel> on all the kernels?
[01:16] <ladydoor> |chris3|: if not, could you open one up?
[01:16] <willys_fueguino> ./configure gives me a lot of errors..
[01:16] <|chris3|> ladydoor: yes with vnc I am able to boot with supergrub disk
[01:17] <thill2708> Does anyone know of a daemon that I can run that will download nzb's from an rss feed and put them in a certain directory for me?
[01:17] <Zarephath> Why can't it find the kernel-headers-2.6.15?
[01:18] <Razor--> whats the sudo command for vewing folders
[01:18] <|chris3|> ladydoor: I am at term ready to type
[01:18] <ladydoor> |chris3|: i don't know what that means, but i'll take your word on it. ok, in that case, double-check again to make sure /boot/boot doesn't exist, and if it doesn't, do sudo ln -s /boot /boot/boot
[01:18] <cafuego_> Zarephath: Coz they don't exist. You can the 'linux-headers-$(uname -r)' package.
[01:18] <jrib> Razor--: what are you trying to do?
[01:19] <cafuego_> s/can/want/
[01:19] <ladydoor> |chris3|: (about the VNC--that's what i didn't know, specifically :-) )
[01:19] <Razor--> view a hidden folder
[01:19] <willys_fueguino> I need help installing thc vlogger
[01:19] <bsdfox> tecta, search google for a howto there are a thousand
[01:19] <willys_fueguino> ./configure gives me a lot of errors..
[01:19] <ladydoor> |chris3|: then back up your menu.lst (sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.bak)
[01:19] <jrib> Razor--: ls -a   let's you view hidden directories
[01:19] <nobody_lv> willys_fueguino: what errors
[01:19] <nobody_lv> ?
[01:19] <Razor--> ok thanks
[01:20] <Zarephath> cafuego: Ok...will it install to /usr/src/<my linux kernel>?
[01:20] <|chris3|> ladydoor: done with both commands
[01:20] <willys_fueguino> nobody_lv, sorry... I get a lot of errors with make
[01:21] <nobody_lv> willys_fueguino: than it is problem :)
[01:21] <ladydoor> |chris3|: ok. what partitions did you say everything was on? what's your /boot partition and what's your ubuntu partition?
[01:21] <|chris3|> ladydoor: VNC is a remote way of getting to the computer that is borken I am talking to you on a laptop my workstation is borken....
[01:21] <Zarephath> cafuego: It can't find it that way either...crap
[01:21] <|chris3|> ladydoor: same /dev/hda1
[01:21] <ladydoor> |chris3|: oh, i see. livecds are also very useful for such tasks, as you can mount stuff from in them.
[01:21] <willys_fueguino> nobody_lv, what do you mean??
[01:21] <nobody_lv> willys_fueguino: nothing... paste some of them in google
[01:21] <|chris3|> ladydoor: and yes I know this is bad but I didn't know better when I build the computer
[01:22] <willys_fueguino> make: *** [vlogger.o]  Error 1
[01:22] <|chris3|> ladydoor: thank you for the suggestion about the live cd
[01:22] <nobody_lv> yeah... thats an error
[01:22] <nobody_lv> :)
[01:23] <thill2708> anyone? Is there such a thing that will download urls in an rss feed and place them in a directory that I choose? Command line onlyy?
[01:23] <Wulong> sethk: hey! it worked, thanks. You made my day.
[01:23] <ladydoor> |chris3|: don't worry about it. it turns out i misread your original post--i thought that your / got moved *to* hda3, not from it. ok...what method did you use to transfer everything to the new partition?
[01:23] <Wulong> How many ways are there to shutdown the computer? /sbin/shutdown,halt,init,reboot more?
[01:24] <ClayG> anyone here use the famous hp 4 laserjet with nix?
[01:24] <|chris3|> ladydoor: a program called true image from alteris (or something)
[01:25] <Brydenn33> can someone help me add my WindowsXP drive to GRUB?
[01:25] <kitche> Brydenn33: why it's not seeing it?
[01:25] <Brydenn33> kitche:  correct
[01:25] <Brydenn33> i didnt install the two together
[01:25] <|chris3|> ladydoor: basicly I had a blank hard drive (because my old one died) and I had to reimage it.  But all I had was the pariton image of the linux drive
[01:25] <Brydenn33> so ubuntu didnt add it
[01:25] <Brydenn33> i just slapped the XP drive in as a slave just now
[01:26] <|chris3|> ladydoor: so know I have only three partions on this new drive ubuntu, swap and extra space
[01:26] <ladydoor> |chris3|: hm...ok. i would ask you to check to make sure all your important symlinks and such weren't broken, if i knew which those were :-) (since grub is complaining). I'm really sorry...it turns out I don't have any idea, because I thought the problem was that you'd mislabeled stuff in your grub.
[01:26] <kitche> Brydenn33: ah ok, that should be relative easy
[01:26] <Brydenn33> ok, sweet :) what first?
[01:26] <ladydoor> |chris3|: i'm really sorry...you should probably ask the channel again. good luck.
[01:26] <freemind> hello mates, I'm using XGL with beryl-manager, first XGL started simply with "beryl-manager" but since my last reboot, I need to execute "beryl-xgl", any idea why?
[01:26] <LinuxGuy2006> I cant get my DVD-Rom drive to read/mount DVD's. Sticking in a DVD knocks drive "off line" till PC is restarted. When I stick in CDs it a) reads/mounts a data CD  b)reads but doesnt mount an Audio CD
[01:27] <Zarephath> C'mon people why isn't there kernel source available for the kernel system updates installed?
[01:27] <sethk> |chris3|, you need to use the rest of the space?
[01:27] <LinuxGuy2006> DVD drive is: TORiSAN DVD-ROM DRD-U624
[01:27] <siimo> LinuxGuy2006: does it work on windows
[01:27] <LinuxGuy2006> yes
[01:27] <freemind> Zarephath: repeat your question please
[01:27] <LinuxGuy2006> watched dvd movies in windows
[01:27] <sethk> |chris3|, if the geometry matches up, you can do that without too much pain.
[01:27] <tecta> hmm
[01:27] <tecta> root@xetra:/home/mythtv# /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start
[01:27] <tecta> Starting MythTV server: mythbackendQSettings: error creating /root/.qt
[01:27] <siimo> what version of Ubuntu
[01:27] <|chris3|> sethk: not really I just want the thing to boot
[01:28] <LinuxGuy2006> siimo: 6.06
[01:28] <|chris3|> sethk: the old and new partion size are the same.  I just copied the partion over to the new drive
[01:28] <LinuxGuy2006> but same problem in 5.10
[01:28] <tecta> anyone know why?
[01:28] <sethk> |chris3|, are the drives the same size?  same geometry?
[01:28] <Zarephath> I tried to install kernel-headers for 2.6.15-27-386...the long way and using (uname -r)' blah...it doesn't find the package(s) in the repository...
[01:28] <Ioh> hello all. anyone out there playing world of warcraft?
[01:28] <kitche> Brydenn33: I have to start irssi in X so I can see the irssi and the link
[01:29] <sethk> |chris3|, do you mean you did a raw, image copy of the old drive to the new one?
[01:29] <|chris3|> sethk: no the new drive is bigger and faster and has less partions than the old (source of issues)
[01:29] <LinuxGuy2006> havent run any other Ubuntu but those two
[01:29] <cafuego_> Zarephath: That's because you're not on debian. linux-headers-$FOO, not kernel-headers-$FOO
[01:29] <freemind> Zarephath: are you using backport sources?
[01:29] <Brydenn33> ok kitche
[01:29] <Zarephath> freemind: Yes I have that repo installed...that was what I thought the problem was at first..
[01:29] <dragon_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179902&highlight=dualboot Brydenn33
[01:29] <Ioh> anyone? world of warcraft? i have some issues i need to ask about
[01:29] <Zarephath> err enable
[01:29] <|chris3|> sethk: kinda I took a copy of the ubuntu partion only and copied it over to the new drive
[01:30] <Dr_willis> Ioh,  you are using cedega to play WoW?
[01:30] <sethk> |chris3|, probably you just need to install grub on the new drive
[01:30] <ChocoCid> does gnome-look (or similar pages) have a decent set of widescreen (preferably 16801050) wallpapers?
[01:30] <freemind> please explain what do you ment by "long way", Zarephath
[01:30] <tecta> any help?
[01:30] <|chris3|> sethk: I agree, but I have been failing to get that to work for about a week
[01:30] <Ioh> no. wine. i have it running fine. i just have a littel brob with lag, and sound
[01:30] <sethk> |chris3|, what happens?
[01:30] <Zarephath> freemind: I typed it out by hand the whole command
[01:30] <freemind> its just dpkg -i file.deb in you case, imho
[01:30] <Ioh> prob*
[01:30] <|chris3|> sethk: GRUB Loading stage1.5read error
[01:31] <sethk> |chris3|, can you boot a live cd or a rescue cd and mount the partition?
[01:31] <Ioh> i was wondering what i could do about the lag, and if there is an update for my sound driver?
[01:31] <|chris3|> sethk: I can boot ubuntu on the partion with supergrub cd and it acts normal
[01:32] <sethk> |chris3|, have you tried doing a chroot, then running the grub utility, and installing with the root and setup commands?
[01:32] <|chris3|> sethk: so I guess I could put grup on a floppy and everyting would be fine (if I could find a floppy drive)
[01:32] <Zarephath> freemind: thanks for clearing the fog...I think the slap cafuego gave me knocked my brain fart out...
[01:32] <sethk> |chris3|, doing chroot after getting it up and mounted
[01:32] <BrianB04> I have a quick question, if someone has a moment: What is the difference between the Ubuntu DVD and the Ubuntu CD?
[01:32] <sethk> |chris3|, yes, you can do that, but it's a pain if you are working remotely and the machine crashes  :)
[01:32] <|chris3|> sethk: yes I have done that
[01:32] <freemind> Zarephath, no problem mate :-)
[01:33] <freemind> you are welcome
[01:33] <sethk> |chris3|, after the setup (hd0)   (or whichever hd it is) you get a bunch of messages and none of them are errors?
[01:33] <sethk> |chris3|, sorry, I know you've probably already answered all of these questions.
[01:33] <mooney2> BrianB04: dvd has extra installations like server and console only
[01:33] <tecta> will the 32bit ubuntu run just as fast as 64bit ubuntu?
[01:33] <|chris3|> sethk: no errors (the really odd part)  it says everything already exists
[01:34] <|chris3|> sethk: please ask every question you want :)  I really want my computer to boot with out a cd....
[01:34] <sethk> |chris3|, doing what I'm suggesting, it doesn't say anything about things already existing, or not existing.
[01:34] <siimo> tecta: speed difference is not noticible so yes
[01:34] <sethk> |chris3|, when does it say that something already exists?
[01:34] <tecta> siimo, hmm so what's the point lol of having 64bit?
[01:34] <siimo> tecta: actually some ppl report 32bit faster slightly
[01:34] <tecta> siimo, software
[01:34] <|chris3|> sethk: how about I copy the out put of setup (hd0,0) to paste?
[01:34] <mooney2> BrianB04: dvd also contains lots of packages
[01:35] <sethk> |chris3|, do it in a terminal window, and copy and paste it.
[01:35] <BrianB04> 64 bit can handle more data, so like graphics apps, or video editing can be a little quicker...that's about the big reasons to have a 64bit chip.
[01:35] <sethk> |chris3|, from konsole, or gnome-terminal, or xterm
[01:35] <|chris3|> sethk: will do
[01:35] <siimo> tecta: can address larger memory.. larger integer calculations etc but current software is just recompiled on 64bit so not much of a use
[01:35] <BrianB04> Oh, and webhosting too, DBMs benefit from 64bit.
[01:35] <tecta> siimo, ah ok
[01:36] <TechTygr> can anyone help with a pcmcia issue, wireless card, showing " eth1: link is not ready" in /var/log/messages
[01:36] <|chris3|> sethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25852
[01:36] <BrianB04> And yea, theoretically 64bit could address a terabyte + of memory, though that won't be seen for awhile.
[01:36] <tecta> siimo, so in the future when software uses 64bit registery's it'll be a lot faster?
[01:36] <freemind> which chipset, TechTygr
[01:36] <TechTygr> Lucent WaveLAN Silver card
[01:36] <sethk> |chris3|, that's not already exists.  :)  that's checking to see if it exists.
[01:36] <aSt3raL> whats the fastest cpu to run ubuntu?
[01:37] <|chris3|> sethk: Sorry I have been looking at this so long
[01:37] <siimo> tecta: well you can have more that 4GB memory with 64bit as well  so yes it will be faster
[01:37] <sethk> |chris3|, that's ok, you just confused me a bit.
[01:37] <cafuego_> aSt3raL: any cpu in an airplane, runs it at ~ 640Mph
[01:37] <sethk> |chris3|, that looks 100% normal.
[01:37] <aSt3raL> huh?
[01:37] <|chris3|> sethk: I have been doing the same commands in grub and grub-install still get the error
[01:37] <TechTygr> freemind: Orinoco chip
[01:37] <|chris3|> sethk: bummer I was hoping you would see something
[01:37] <sethk> |chris3|, well if you get the error twice, you'll get it 1000 times
[01:37] <sethk> |chris3|, don't give up yet.
[01:37] <siimo> like the Mac Pro.. its a dual Xeon 64bit rig with 8 memory slots supporting upto 16GB memory  if the cpus were 32bit it wouldnt be able to handle all that memory
[01:38] <|chris3|> sethk: I was always told I was hard headed...
[01:38] <sethk> |chris3|, paste your menu.lst file also
[01:38] <|chris3|> sethk: will do
[01:38] <freemind> TechTygr: never heard that before, did you installed the right module?
[01:38] <aSt3raL> whats the fastest cpu to run ubuntu?
[01:38] <wasabi> That's a silly question.
[01:39] <aSt3raL> mine?
[01:39] <wasabi> Yes.
[01:39] <kitche> aSt3raL: ummm lol
[01:39] <wasabi> What's the fastest CPU to run windows?
[01:39] <ChocoCid> well, he's probably asking, "fastest CPU that works well with ubuntu"
[01:39] <BrianB04> Ummm, 8 core intels;)
[01:39] <|chris3|> sethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25853
[01:39] <wasabi> Then he really means "slowest"
[01:39] <TechTygr> freemind: as far as I can tell
[01:39] <BrianB04> I think that's the fastest out.
[01:39] <aSt3raL> ha well im going to build a new system i was just wondering if any cpus are better than others for ubuntu
[01:39] <ChocoCid> er, don't multicore cpu's have problems with linux?
[01:39] <siimo> what about that 80 core intel prototype  what did that run? :P
[01:39] <wasabi> ChocoCid: No.
[01:40] <aSt3raL> yeah what about the intel dual core cpus?
[01:40] <BrianB04> Was that 80core chip actually legit?
[01:40] <siimo> yes
[01:40] <aSt3raL> thats what i was looking at
[01:40] <siimo> fully working engineering prototype
[01:40] <wasabi> aSt3raL: what about them?
[01:40] <BrianB04> Jeezus.
[01:40] <cafuego_> aSt3raL: If you want a month and a bit, you can buy a Quad core intel.
[01:40] <siimo> but too expensive for production currently
[01:40] <cafuego_> wait, even
[01:40] <kitche> ChochCid: there is issues but they would run as one core if smp wasn't installed
[01:40] <BrianB04> "Yea, I have that new 80core chip, I need nitrous oxide so it doesn't overheat"
[01:40] <aSt3raL> there should be like a ubuntu recommended chip
[01:40] <wasabi> Why would there be?
[01:41] <wasabi> Does MS have one?
[01:41] <BrianB04> Wait, wrong thing...blah...nevermind.
[01:41] <aSt3raL> heh
[01:41] <wasabi> Why would Ubuntu give a damn what CPU you have?
[01:41] <cafuego_> aSt3raL: Ubuntu recommends the chip you prefer at a price you like.
[01:41] <ChocoCid> yeah, the video card causes far more problems :P
[01:41] <aSt3raL> ok
[01:41] <BrianB04> What is that super cold liquid...I can't remember the name anymore.
[01:41] <aSt3raL> thats a good answer
[01:41] <|chris3|> cafuego: good answer
[01:41] <ChocoCid> BrianB04 : any liquid that you make cold
[01:41] <freemind> TechTygr: try modpobe and look out for errors or something elese
[01:41] <|chris3|> lol
[01:41] <sethk> |chris3|, try this.  in menu.lst, for the first kernel, get rid of the line     root (hd0,0)          and in the kernel and initrd lines, change /boot to (hd0,0)/boot
[01:42] <cafuego_> It's actually more important that you have sufficient ram and a decent gfx card.
[01:42] <aSt3raL> ok so what about intel vs amd
[01:42] <wasabi> What about em? :)
[01:42] <ChocoCid> all those do is change which install disc you use
[01:42] <sethk> cafuego_, actually, ubuntu recommends the chip that I have 1000 of in my basement.  And, if you order right now, you also get ....
[01:42] <TechTygr> freemind: modprobe orinoco_cs comes back clean
[01:42] <wasabi> aSt3raL: Ubuntu isn't going to be different or better on any processor.
[01:42] <BrianB04> Liquid Nitrogen...there we go.
[01:42] <siimo> best gfx cards for linux are anything nVidia and intel onboards
[01:42] <siimo> do not get ATI or you will be disappointed
[01:42] <aSt3raL> so faster cpu = faster ubuntu
[01:43] <ChocoCid> ATI works fine for me
[01:43] <wasabi> Uh huh.
[01:43] <wasabi> Just like Windows.
[01:43] <aSt3raL> ok
[01:43] <cafuego_> sethk: I need new steak knives actually
[01:43] <aSt3raL> thanks
[01:43] <ChocoCid> i'm aware that nvidia works "better" in general, but meh
[01:43] <sethk> siimo, ATI is ok for some things, just not great for most graphics
[01:43] <HOT> wasabi: aSt3raL: Ubuntu isn't going to be different or better on any processor.
[01:43] <HOT> i think thats bad info personally
[01:43] <ChocoCid> like, i've got beryl running on ATI right now
[01:43] <siimo> ati works for most people  but Nvidia drivers "just work"  no fiddling and praying necessary
[01:43] <sethk> cafuego_, that's ok, these processors get so hot, you can use them as knives while you are running your computer.
[01:43] <ChocoCid> yeah, true
[01:43] <cafuego_> HOT: Not entirely.
[01:43] <HOT> well
[01:43] <freemind> TechTygr: are you trying to establish plain connection or any encryption?
[01:43] <ChocoCid> ati's drivers are semi-iffy
[01:43] <TechTygr> freemind: plain connection
[01:43] <siimo> plus ATI linux performance is les than 1/4 of its windows performance - not saying cards are bad but drivers are
[01:44] <cafuego_> HOT: If you want working java and flash plugins in your web browser, x86 is a better choice than powerpc.
[01:44] <freemind> strange
[01:44] <sethk> I agree with HOT, really, because it depends so much on what you are going to run
[01:44] <ChocoCid> but i got this compy way before i even considered getting linux
[01:44] <|chris3|> sethk: rebooting box
[01:44] <sureshot> hey all how do i copy a file from my desktop to a hidden readonly directory
[01:44] <HOT> i just think saying "CPU's are all the same" is a bit misleading
[01:44] <ChocoCid> uh, sudo cp
[01:44] <pierrepierre> does anyone know how to install nvidia drivers 1.0-9625 ?
[01:44] <Dr_willis> readonly - imples you cant.
[01:44] <freemind> sureshot: r/o and write is paradox
[01:44] <wasabi> sureshot: Depends why it's readonly. ;)
[01:44] <sethk> sureshot, there really isn't any such thing as a hidden directory.  you copy to a directory; if you don't have the permissions, use sudo
[01:44] <cafuego_> But for a desktop box, go with ia32 or x86-64 in 32bit mode.
[01:44] <HOT> my sun grid and p2 333 dont seem to run the same to be honest
[01:44] <sethk> sureshot, but the fact that it starts with a dot (which is what you mistake as hidden) isn't relevant
[01:44] <ChocoCid> well, make it readable and THEN copy, then make it readonly :P
[01:45] <g333k_work> is it possible to install sshmenu applet from debian pkg in ubuntu?
[01:45] <sureshot> sethk it does start with a dot
[01:45] <|chris3|> sethk: same error
[01:46] <freemind> TechTygr: paste the output from ifdown; ifup again pls
[01:46] <sethk> |chris3|, something very strage is happening.  do you have free space on the drive that is as big as the partition?
[01:46] <|chris3|> sethk: I don't think grub go to the point of reading menu.lst
[01:46] <|chris3|> sethk: yes
[01:46] <CoLL1eR> what is XGL and compiz????????//
[01:47] <sethk> |chris3|, it must, because the binary for stage 1.5 is in the same directory as menu.lst
[01:47] <cafuego_> CoLL1eR: a world of pain
[01:47] <TechTygr> freemind: root@carter:~# ifdown eth1 ; ifup eth1
[01:47] <TechTygr> root@carter:~#
[01:47] <CoLL1eR> what do u mean a world of pain?
[01:47] <cafuego_> Just that: a world of pain
[01:47] <|chris3|> sethk: you are right
[01:47] <sethk> |chris3|, I would try creating a new partition, mounting both from the live cd, copying all the files from the old to the new partition (use cp -av or tar), chroot to the new partition, run the grub utility, and see if it will boot
[01:47] <CoLL1eR> cafuego_ is it good?
[01:47] <ChocoCid> Beryl is hotness
[01:47] <cafuego_> CoLL1eR: it's eyecandy for X, that doesn't quite work yet.
[01:47] <Razor--> What is wine used for
[01:47] <ixian_> hi, i'm using ubuntu 6.06 and i'm wondering how i can stop it from generating thumbnails of video files when i put a dvd full of videos in the dvd drive.. anyone know?
[01:47] <ChocoCid> far easier to install than XGL/Compiz imo
[01:48] <sethk> |chris3|, because the only thing here that is strange is that the partition resulted from a raw copy
[01:48] <ChocoCid> Razor-- : running windows programs
[01:48] <Normal> When I had 5.10 XScreensaver had alot more screensavers and a place to specify attributes, but my 6.06 has aroun 1/4 of the screensavers and no button for parameters. I tried reinstalling it, but it didn't help. Is this the way it should be?
[01:48] <Razor--> all windows programs like .exe
[01:48] <ChocoCid> well, you have to install them into wine
[01:48] <sethk> |chris3|, the partition table may be involved, though, and if it is, then it's possible what I just suggested won't change a thing
[01:48] <ChocoCid> wine is basically a windows "layer" you run on top of linux
[01:48] <HOT> oh just a quicky, i was trying to pull a deleted file from an ext3 drive, i did debugfs and "dump_inode blah > foo" and it said something like ext2_locate cannot open superblock, i understand thats because i was running a ext2 tool, but does anyone know how i could have gone forward at that stage?
[01:48] <siimo> Razor and linux programs too :P  mono ones!
[01:48] <TechTygr> freemind: the NIC seems to be working, but can't ping across it, and /var/log/messages shows "eth1: link is not ready"
[01:48] <Draccy> Not every program works in wine just yet, but it's getting closer all the time.
[01:49] <ChocoCid> yeah, the only think tying me to windows at all is one such :(
[01:49] <Razor--> so can i run .exe with it
[01:49] <freemind> TechTygr: strange strange, look for special commands in the kernel module
[01:49] <freemind> i guess theres a solution
[01:49] <dmglouis> my ubuntu box is not connecting to my router, can someone help?
[01:49] <ChocoCid> Razor-- : probably, but it may or may not work
[01:49] <|chris3|> sethk: i am really confused how a cd disk can read my menu.lst and boot my computer yet it can not do it on its own
[01:50] <Razor--> cause i have it install but i can run .exe
[01:50] <ChocoCid> you have to do wine programname
[01:50] <Razor--> what?
[01:50] <ChocoCid> like wine "C:\Program Files\foo\bar.exe"
[01:51] <jomino> right
[01:51] <ChocoCid> if you run the program's installer in wine, it'll set up the desktop icons automatically with the wine command
[01:51] <TechTygr> freemind: iwconfig eth1   shows it's seeing the access point, but only connecting at 2Mb/s
[01:51] <freemind> techtyr: are you sure the AP is uncrypted?
[01:51] <freemind> TechTygr: are you sure the AP is uncrypted?
[01:51] <ChocoCid> if you're trying to use wine on an exe you downloaded onto linux, i'm not sure that works, but you can try going <wine "filename.exe"> in the terminal
[01:52] <Razor--> how do i run wine though
[01:52] <Tremitos> you tell me
[01:52] <jomino> TechTygr, in which mode is your wlan device working?
[01:52] <ChocoCid> razor, you've installed it, right?
[01:52] <Razor--> yeah
[01:52] <ChocoCid> type "winefile" in the command line
[01:52] <dmglouis> anyone know anything about smc routers?
[01:52] <ChocoCid> that'll load up the WINE file manager, which you can use as a kind of GUI
[01:52] <Brydenn33> thanks guys, that dual boot link really helped me
[01:52] <ChocoCid> and you can doubleclick the program to start it (and hope it works)
[01:52] <Brydenn33> got it working now :)
[01:52] <TechTygr> jomino: what do you mean?
[01:53] <dmglouis> because mine keeps blocking my ubuntu box
[01:53] <sethk> |chris3|, you know, we can finesse the entire issue and just install lilo
[01:53] <sethk> dmglouis, blocking how?
[01:53] <freemind> TechTygr: i guess he mean B/G mode
[01:53] <Razor--> ok a window opened
[01:53] <TechTygr> 11b
[01:53] <jomino> TechTygr, if you type iwconfig theres somehting like Mode:Managed
[01:53] <dmglouis> sethk: it doesn't even allow pings
[01:53] <|chris3|> sethk: i am down with that.  I don't care what boots my computer :)
[01:53] <TechTygr> jomino: managed mode
[01:54] <sethk> |chris3|, give lilo a try.  it works quite well.  the only drawback to it is that if you change the config, you have to run the lilo utility to update the boot sector.
[01:54] <sethk> |chris3|, what you gain is that it can boot without trying to understand the file system.
[01:54] <jomino> TechTygr, maybe you should paste your iwconfig results
[01:54] <TechTygr> here or in /msg?
[01:55] <sethk> dmglouis, that's not a problem.  most routers these days block pings by default, for security reasons.
[01:55] <|chris3|> sethk: ok does kernal updates still work automaticly?
[01:55] <jomino> nopaste or something like that
[01:55] <sethk> dmglouis, it's annoying, but usually it isn't a problem.
[01:55] <freemind> nopaste would be great :)
[01:55] <freemind> @techtygr
[01:55] <sethk> |chris3|, theoretically, yes, but I suspect lilo mode is rarely tested these days.
[01:55] <|chris3|> sethk: the reason I ask is because when the kernal is updated grub is changed
[01:55] <dmglouis> sethk: well I cant connect to router and that means no internet
[01:55] <fateisajester> i am having the same issue as with this page http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=321704
[01:55] <fateisajester> how to i define $PATH to gtk
[01:55] <|chris3|> sethk: mmm well it is worth a try  worst case I just reapply the image :)
[01:55] <sethk> |chris3|, right, and the equivalent lilo file needs to be changed as well.
[01:56] <sethk> |chris3|, right, you don't risk anything at all.
[01:56] <jomino> TechTygr, -> topic there is a paste service
[01:56] <ClayG> anyone here use the famous hp 4 laserjet with ubuntu?
[01:56] <sethk> |chris3|, when you update the kernel, in addition to editing the config (which is similar to grub) you run the lilo utility (named, guess what, lilo)
[01:56] <brian98> fateisajester, $path = gtk ; export $path
[01:56] <sethk> ClayG, I do, but I haven't seen the problem you are describing.
[01:57] <ClayG> what software do you use with it?
[01:57] <sureshot> what is the term command line command for copy
[01:57] <fateisajester> i dont understand. i am still extremely new to linux
[01:57] <TechTygr> jomino: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25855/
[01:57] <sethk> brian98, you left out a bit, such as  ...
[01:57] <ChocoCid> cp is copy
[01:57] <ClayG> and have you found toner for less then 26 shipped?
[01:57] <sethk> fateisajester, export PATH=$PATH:/whatever
[01:57] <g333k_work> how can I do to go back the classic way, using root permanently?
[01:57] <sureshot> thamk you
[01:57] <ChocoCid> !rootsudo > g333k_work
[01:57] <sethk> ClayG, I don't think so, but I'll ask.
[01:57] <sethk> ClayG, $26 is not terribly bad, as those things go.
[01:58] <brian98> sethk, he just wanted gtk !
[01:58] <g333k_work> ChocoCid, I know that.... I hate sudo!
[01:58] <ClayG> thanks, ask whats good to use for software please
[01:58] <|chris3|> sethk: I will try it out
[01:58] <ChocoCid> yeah, scroll down to the bottom of that page
[01:58] <brian98> sethk, :o
[01:58] <freemind> TechTygr: Link Quality=37/92 .. you need a little more signal I guess
[01:58] <|chris3|> sethk: I will keep you updated :)
[01:58] <Dragonfire1> http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl.htm
[01:58] <Dragonfire1> that may help
[01:58] <freemind> thats <50%
[01:58] <jomino> TechTygr, i'm drunk but i think your signal quality is ... bad
[01:58] <HOT> sureshot: a little link buddy, you might find it usefull for getting started
[01:58] <TechTygr> freemind: nothing has changed from yesterday, other than switching from gentoo to xubuntu
[01:58] <HOT> http://www.pixelbeat.org/cmdline.html
[01:59] <fateisajester> thx i will try that
[01:59] <freemind> TechTygr: signal was such the same?
[01:59] <dummy> hi all, I insalled ubuntu64, but I get no X. Its all CLI
[01:59] <Dragonfire1> thanks hot never saw that one
[01:59] <TechTygr> freemind: yes
[01:59] <dummy> how do I configure X in Ubuntu?
[01:59] <HOT> np
[02:00] <jomino> TechTygr, sry wrong guess better than my signal :(
[02:00] <g333k_work> how can I do to go back the classic way, using root permanently? I mean avoiding using sudo?
[02:00] <Dragonfire1> just found the other one
[02:00] <Dragonfire1> today
[02:00] <fateisajester> sethk: typically, where would i find gtk
[02:00] <sethk> dummy, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:00] <jomino> TechTygr, do you have this phenomenem often or all the time?
[02:00] <TechTygr> freemind: jomino: I dragged it into the room with the access point, about 3 ft from the laptop, Link Quality=57/92
[02:00] <freemind> dummy: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:00] <sethk> fateisajester, gtk has lots of little pieces.  strictly speaking gtk is a library and the path isn't even relevant.  I suspect you mean, though, various gtk binaries.
[02:00] <HOT> sureshot: one of the best things someone told me when i was new, was about the apropos command
[02:01] <HOT> as a test type "apropos copy" and see what happens, is very usefull for getting started
[02:01] <TechTygr> jomino: until today, I'd been running gentoo with no problems on the laptop, I loaded the system with xubuntu today
[02:01] <freemind> TechTygr: try ifdown/ifup and look for link speed
[02:01] <sethk> fateisajester, on a typical installation most of the binaries end up in /usr/bin, which is already in your path
[02:01] <sethk> fateisajester, are you sure you mean the execution path, and not the library path?
[02:01] <freemind> :)
[02:01] <TechTygr> freemind: still showing 2Mb/s in iwconfig
[02:01] <TechTygr> popped the card out and put it back in
[02:02] <jomino> TechTygr, do you have a somehow "exotic" wireless device?
[02:02] <freemind> yes...
[02:02] <amit> hi all
[02:02] <TechTygr> jomino: no, 3Com access point, and Lucent WaveLAN card
[02:02] <freemind> chipset is exotic :(
[02:02] <fateisajester> sethk: im not sure. im getting a make error. one forum suggested  "" it might be having trouble finding the $PATH to gtk""
[02:03] <TechTygr> freemind: Orinoco chipset, not exotic, bog standard
[02:03] <kultur> hello friends
[02:03] <sethk> fateisajester, very likely they meant the library path, which is LD_LIBRARY_PATH (there is also similar configuration for the dynamic loader).  If you put the exact error on the paste site I can tell you what is causing it.
[02:03] <freemind> TechTygr: never heard that before, but ok :)
[02:03] <jomino> youre german... kultur ?
[02:03] <kultur> yes
[02:03] <sethk> fateisajester, I have to walk my dog, but I'll be back in 15 minutes or so if you haven't solved it by then.
[02:03] <TechTygr> it's been supported under linux since at least 2002
[02:04] <jomino> go to #ubuntu-de kultur
[02:04] <kultur> deutsch/norwegian
[02:04] <fateisajester> thx... ill post
[02:04] <amit> i get the messege "libglib2.0-dev:
[02:04] <amit>   Depends: libglib2.0-0 (=2.10.2-1ubuntu3) but 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[02:04] <amit> " when i try to install  libglib2.0-dev in synaptic, how can solve it?
[02:05] <gnomefreak> amit: sudo apt-get -f install
[02:05] <kultur> hmm
[02:05] <kultur> libglib2.0 is what exactly? I forgot
[02:05] <gnomefreak> gnome libs
[02:05] <HOT> anyone tried to install vista rc1 under vmware on ubuntu?
[02:05] <cmatheson> i have an unusual problem that i am having difficulty debugging.  i have a simple .xsession (it just has mplayer start playing a movie), but when x starts, there is no movie.  x doesn't crash, and ps -fC 'mplayer' shows that the there is an mplayer process, but it's not using any cpu... what is going on?
[02:07] <amit> gnomefreak, i get "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:07] <amit>   libglib2.0-dev: Depends: libglib2.0-0 (= 2.10.2-1ubuntu3) but 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[02:07] <amit> E: Broken packages
[02:07] <amit> "
[02:08] <rpc-> does anyone know a channel on freenode that is related to embedded programming?
[02:08] <gnomefreak> amit: and what do you get when you run sudo apt-get -f install? without a package name
[02:08] <fateisajester> sethk: here is my make output: http://rafb.net/paste/results/teO7MZ95.html
[02:08] <gnomefreak> amit: do you have compiz/xgl repos enabled?
[02:09] <amit> gnomefreak,  amit@huji-public:~/mplayer$ sudo apt-get -f install
[02:09] <amit> Reading package lists... Done
[02:09] <amit> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:09] <amit> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[02:09] <amit> amm i might
[02:09] <amit> let me check
[02:10] <gnomefreak> fateisajester: you are missing depends for that package please read INSTALL and README files
[02:10] <dmglouis> can someone help me connect my ubuntu box to my router?
[02:10] <gnomefreak> fateisajester: they should tell you what depends you need to build it
[02:10] <amit> gnomefreak, do you know what the name of this repos?
[02:10] <danielt> Hi I just installed edubuntu on a pc with 4 drives 2 of them with ntfs partitions I followed the instroctions to mount them but i can't see any files thanks for any help
[02:10] <gnomefreak> dmglouis: plug it in an dgo?
[02:10] <freemind> TechTygr: any ideas? im out of
[02:10] <dmglouis> gnomefreak: what?
[02:11] <gnomefreak> amit: do you have anything other than ubuntu.com repos?
[02:11] <TechTygr> freemind: not really
[02:11] <gnomefreak> dmglouis: most routers you just plug the ethernet cable in and get online
[02:11] <dj_baggio> Uncompressing ATI Proprietary Linux Driver-8.28.8.........................................Extraction failed.
[02:11] <dj_baggio> Signal caught, cleaning up
[02:11] <dmglouis> gnomefreak: should I unplug it and plug it in again?
[02:11] <dj_baggio> all the time...
[02:11] <amit> yes
[02:12] <dj_baggio> I downloaded 5x times this ati driver
[02:12] <amit> gnomefreak, yes, should i take them out?
[02:12] <dj_baggio> is any other idea?
[02:12] <HOT> dmglouis: start at the lowest level fella
[02:12] <dj_baggio> how I could install this driver?
[02:12] <gnomefreak> amit: uninstall that package first
[02:12] <dmglouis> HOT: what?
[02:12] <HOT> dmglouis: do you have link lights on router and network card?
[02:12] <gnomefreak> dj_baggio: routers on linux shouldnt need drivers most are plug in and work
[02:12] <dmglouis> HOT: yes
[02:13] <gnomefreak> dj_baggio: its the nick card you might need drivers for
[02:13] <HOT> dmglouis: ping your router
[02:13] <dmglouis> HOT: it cant
[02:13] <dummy> how do I install gnome in Ubuntu?
[02:13] <HOT> whats your ip and whats its ip
[02:13] <ryepup> hello, I'm new to ubuntu and having a hard time getting USB devices working.  Is there some way to check that my USB ports are good?
[02:13] <dj_baggio> gnomefreak: i tryied installed driver for my graphic card
[02:13] <dmglouis> HOT: it keeps saying destination host unreachable
[02:13] <HOT> are you in same subnet?
[02:13] <freemind> TechTygr: the 2mbit problem is known on google
[02:13] <kitche> dj_baggio: did you do sudo ./<driver>
[02:13] <dmglouis> HOT: the ubuntu IP is 192.168.2.132 and the router IP is 192.168.2.1
[02:13] <dj_baggio> yeap
[02:13] <HOT> dmglouis: do you get your IP via DHCP or is it static?
[02:14] <dmglouis> HOT: dhcp
[02:14] <gnomefreak> dj_baggio: please dont paste in the channel please use pastebin
[02:14] <HOT> dmglouis: subnet?
[02:14] <dmglouis> HOT: what?
[02:14] <dj_baggio> gnomefreak: ok, ok
[02:14] <gnomefreak> !ati > dj_baggio
[02:14] <gnomefreak> dj_baggio: please read the pm from ubotu
[02:14] <jomino> dummy, if you installed fron an ubuntu disc you should already have gnome
[02:14] <dmglouis> HOT: whats subnet?
[02:14] <dj_baggio> gnomefreak: i know how install driver
[02:14] <dj_baggio> but it's not working
[02:15] <HOT> dmglouis: your subnet should be something like 255.255.255.0
[02:15] <dj_baggio> because i couldn't make package
[02:15] <dmglouis> HOT: yea thats it
[02:15] <amit> gnomefreak, that is the problem, i dont have reinstall option, and if i am to remove it, it requires me to remove s VERY big list of apps (more then 20)
[02:15] <HOT> or whatever, someone can do the maths, is that class C? someone
[02:15] <dmglouis> HOT: 255.255.255.0
[02:15] <TechTygr> freemind: have a URL?
[02:15] <gnomefreak> amit: pastebin the packages it wants to remove
[02:16] <kitche> HOT yeah that's C class anything in 192 and is 255.255.255.0 is C
[02:16] <HOT> kitche: thanks, have headache cant do subnetting
[02:16] <freemind> is there any firmware upgrade for your device, TechTygr?
[02:16] <dmglouis> whats C class?
[02:16] <TechTygr> freemind: not that I know of
[02:16] <gnomefreak> amit: this is why we dont support packages in 3rd party repos because the versions conflict and break things as you are seeing
[02:16] <Ioh> anyone know where i can get a sound driver update?
[02:16] <HOT> dmglouis: dont worry as long as they are both 255.255.255.0
[02:16] <dmglouis> HOT: both?
[02:17] <kitche> HOT: I just use a calculator :)
[02:17] <HOT> dmglouis: both router and pc should  be in same subnet
[02:17] <Oswaldo> Hello all
[02:17] <amit> gnomefreak, this is the list: acroread alacarte amule at-spi azureus bittornado-gui bluez-pin brltty-x11 bug-buddy capplets-data contact-lookup-applet dbus-1-utils democracyplayer
[02:17] <amit>   deskbar-applet desktop-file-utils eclipse-cdt eclipse-jdt eclipse-jdt-common eclipse-pde eclipse-platform eclipse-platform-common eclipse-rcp ekiga eog
[02:17] <amit>   epiphany-browser evince evolution evolution-data-server evolution-exchange evolution-plugins evolution-webcal file-roller firefox firefox-gnome-support
[02:17] <amit>   firefox-themes-ubuntu gaim gamin gcalctool gconf-editor gconf2 gdebi gdm gdm-themes gedit gimp gimp-print gimp-python gksu gnome-about
[02:17] <amit>   gnome-accessibility-themes gnome-applets gnome-applets-data gnome-art gnome-btdownload gnome-control-center gnome-cups-manager gnome-games
[02:17] <amit>   gnome-games-data gnome-icon-theme gnome-icon-theme-gartoon gnome-keyring gnome-mag gnome-media gnome-menus gnome-netstatus-applet gnome-nettool
[02:17] <HOT> dmglouis: ie 255.255.255.0
[02:17] <dmglouis> HOT: oh ok
[02:17] <amit>   gnome-panel gnome-panel-data gnome-pilot gnome-pilot-conduits gnome-power-manager gnome-screensaver gnome-session gnome-spell gnome-splashscreen-manager
[02:17] <amit>   gnome-system-monitor gnome-system-tools gnome-terminal gnome-terminal-data gnome-themes gnome-utils gnome-volume-manager gnopernicus gok
[02:17] <gnomefreak> amit: use pastebin
[02:18] <amit>   gstreamer0.10-alsa gstreamer0.10-esd gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
[02:18] <amit>   gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-base gstreamer0.10-plugins-base-apps gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[02:18] <amit>   gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gstreamer0.10-tools gstreamer0.10-x gstreamer0.8-misc gstreamer0.8-oss gstreamer0.8-swfdec gstreamer0.8-x gthumb
[02:18] <freemind> TechTygr: sorry then, I dont know anymore :( I'm going to sleep now, please query me the solution if you find any, thanks :)
[02:18] <amit>   libgstreamer0.10-0 libgstreamer0.8-0 libgtk-java libgtk-jni libgtk2-perl libgtk2-ruby libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin libgtk2.0-cil libgtk2.0-common
[02:18] <amit>   libgtkhtml2-0 libgtkhtml3.8-15 libgtksourceview1.0-0 libgtkspell0 libgtop2-7 libgucharmap4 libgutenprintui2-1 libidl0 libipoddevice0
[02:18] <gnomefreak> amit: stop
[02:18] <amit>   liblaunchpad-integration0 liblpint-bonobo0 libmdbtools libmetacity0 libmono0 libnautilus-burn3 libnautilus-extension1 libnm-util0 libnotify1 liborbit2
[02:18] <amit>   libpanel-applet2-0 libpango1-ruby libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-common libpoppler1-glib librsvg2-2 librsvg2-common libsexy2 libsoup2.2-8 libswfdec0.3
[02:19] <whyso> hi! i just got a new harddrive, and i was wondering weather or not i can install ubuntu on it and dual boot without erasing my current windows install on my other disks
[02:19] <kitche> gnomefreak: think that was in his buffer still
[02:19] <dmglouis> HOT: so any ideas whats wrong?
[02:19] <patconnexion> hello .. does any body know a good tool on dapper to copy one sql database from one server to an other ... Synchronize tool or smth like that ?
[02:19] <gnomefreak> kitche: i told him to use pastebin not my fault he didnt listen
[02:19] <HOT> dmglouis: not really, firewall?
[02:19] <dmglouis> HOT: the routers?
[02:19] <fateisajester> gnomefreak: the only depends it says is curl libraries and gtk+2.4 or greater
[02:20] <HOT> dmglouis: or the linux box
[02:20] <kitche> gnomefreak true I m just saying that his buffer must of been pretty big to keep pasting for that long :)
[02:20] <HOT> dmglouis: what happens if you type ifconfig
[02:20] <dmglouis> HOT: ubuntu doesn't come with any firewalls right?
[02:20] <HOT> not by default, as i understand it
[02:20] <whyso> can anyone help?
[02:21] <gnomefreak> fateisajester: ok look at your errors on make and install the packages listed and if no -dev packages are listed get the -dev packages for each of them
[02:21] <HOT> note to everyone: prelinking is magic, i love it
[02:21] <dmglouis> HOT: it shows eth0 and lo and a bunch of stuff beneath them
[02:21] <jomino> whyso, just ask yours question...
[02:21] <Samuli^> HOT, nah.
[02:21] <gnomefreak> dmglouis: iptables
[02:21] <kitche> HOT dmglouis: ubuntu has iptables it's pretty much in every distro now
[02:21] <dmglouis> gnomefreak: what?
[02:21] <HOT> Samuli^: it totally made my box faster
[02:21] <SuperMiguel> what is better gnome or kde?
[02:21] <gnomefreak> dmglouis: iptables is what ubuntu has just like every other distro
[02:21] <whyso> oh i did  asecond ago :) i want to install ubuntu on a new hard disk i have and keep my old windows install on my other disks, and dual boot can i?
[02:22] <gnomefreak> SuperMiguel: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:22] <dmglouis> gnoefreak: whats iptables?
[02:22] <Samuli^> HOT, probably some big programs like openoffice etc.
[02:22] <gnomefreak> whyso: yes
[02:22] <gnomefreak> !iptables
[02:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) For more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[02:22] <ryepup> hello, I'm new to ubuntu and having a hard time getting USB devices working. Is there some way to check that my USB ports are good?
[02:22] <jomino> SuperMiguel, theres no better or worse it's a question of taste not quality
[02:22] <gnomefreak> dmglouis: ^^^ read above
[02:22] <HOT> dmglouis: what are you using to talk to me machine wise, is that plugged into router?
[02:22] <amit> gnomefreak, sorry, i just read in wikipedia:A pastebin (known also under term: nopaste) is a web application which allows its users to upload snippets of text, usually samples of source code, for public viewing. It is very popular in IRC channels where pasting large texts is considered bad etiquette., so the last sentence told me why i was kicked out
[02:22] <dmglouis> maybe thats why its not connecting
[02:22] <SuperMiguel> which one run faster?
[02:22] <jomino> xfce SuperMiguel
[02:22] <gnomefreak> amit: /msg ubotu pastebin
[02:22] <fateisajester> gnomefreak: is this "gtkmain.cpp:909: error: GladeXML was not declared in this scope" what you mean im missing (for instance)?
[02:23] <gnomefreak> type that without your name
[02:23] <freemind> ryepup: lsusb, dmesg
[02:23] <ryepup> freemind: thank you
[02:23] <HOT> Samuli^: well i took the risk and i have to say, to date its been good to me, but yea it might break everything
[02:23] <freemind> np :)
[02:23] <gnomefreak> fateisajester: that looks more like a program error
[02:23] <whyso> thanks gnome!  i can read/write from ntfs to whatever ubuntu uses from ubuntu then?
[02:23] <gnomefreak> fateisajester: and if your missing gtk libs it might cause that
[02:23] <kitche> fateisajester: to me it looks like your missing a dependency for that application
[02:24] <gnomefreak> whyso: you cant write to ntfs safely from ubuntu
[02:24] <gnomefreak> kitche: hes missing a bunch
[02:24] <anto9us> patconnexion, it may be possible to take output from data dump and pipe it to another server, I've done that with postgresql
[02:24] <SuperMiguel> what about fluxbox
[02:24] <Pierre> whyso: you can't write safely from any linux box. ntfs write mide is more than expiremental.
[02:24] <HOT> anto9us: ssh should allow that no problem
[02:25] <gnomefreak> SuperMiguel: a very lightweight desktop enviornment
[02:25] <anto9us> HOT, yes, with ssh would be just a matter of tunnelling the port
[02:25] <jomino> SuperMiguel, i never used fluxbox but i think it is as good as xfce
[02:25] <gnomefreak> jomino: alot lighter
[02:26] <jomino> gnomefreak, faster?
[02:26] <gnomefreak> jomino: if you rely on icons or menus it isnt really for you
[02:26] <HOT> anto9us: *nod* is that what your looking for?
[02:26] <gnomefreak> jomino: much
[02:26] <Samuli^> alotta vagina, fuck.
[02:26] <amit> gnomefreak, http://pastebin.com/801711
[02:26] <whyso> thanks everybody! but i CAN read from ntfs right?
[02:26] <gnomefreak> whyso: yes
[02:26] <Amaranth> The only thing fluxbox gives you over GNOME, KDE, or XFCE is reduced memory usage for the DE/WM
[02:26] <kitche> jomino: to me fluxbox isn't faster then xfce but there is only one thing you have to compile to get it to work unlike
[02:27] <anto9us> HOT, no, was patconnexion's question, gone now though
[02:27] <HOT> ahhh
[02:27] <gnomefreak> holy crap it worked
[02:27] <gnomefreak> ha
[02:27] <gnomefreak> amit: ive been trying to build dapper pbuilder in edgy it was being a pita :)
[02:27] <josh_> what is the command to get the gnome desktop?
[02:27] <josh_> apt-get install gnome-desktop?
[02:28] <tannerld> sudo ;)
[02:28] <josh_> also... who in here has 2 routers?
[02:28] <Amaranth> amit: Why are you trying to uninstall glib?
[02:28] <amit> gnomefreak, "being a pita" ?? and wahat pbuilder is ?
[02:28] <g333k_work> why I'm not able to paste from openoffice in firefox? When I try to paste the copied text openoffice just closes suddenly
[02:28] <Amaranth> amit: If it has a GUI in Ubuntu it probably needs glib
[02:28] <gnomefreak> amit: download the right version from packages.ubuntu.com
[02:29] <gnomefreak> amit: pbuilder is a dev tool to build packages
[02:29] <dmglouis> can anyone help me? I've been trying to get my ubuntu box to connect to my router hours without any success
[02:29] <amit> Amaranth,i dont, i try to install gtk2dev, and i cant do it
[02:29] <kitche> g333k_work probably openoffice is segfaulting
[02:29] <gnomefreak> amit: he has depends issues from non -official repos
[02:29] <Amaranth> amit: Open synaptic, search for that package, select it, and hit ctrl-e
[02:29] <Amaranth> amit: Tell it to use the one that ends with '(dapper)'
[02:30] <josh_> i have a wireless router and a non wireless router... when the wireless router is plugged in i cant get online... when its unplugged i can.. why?
[02:30] <Arrick> how do i add someone to my ignore list from PMs ?
[02:30] <Amaranth> amit: or dapper-security/dapper-updates if they exist
[02:30] <anto9us> dmglouis, does 'sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning' see your router? or eth1 or whatever
[02:30] <Amaranth> Arrick: /ignore <nick> ALL
[02:31] <ixian_> how can i create a link to a folder on my desktop? for example i want to make a link that opens / in the file browser. how can i do that? im using 6.06
[02:31] <dmglouis> anto0us: do i replace the wlan0 with eth0?
[02:31] <whyso> is there a way to keep an existing windows install but partition space from the disks it uses to ubuntu?
[02:31] <loopout> Hey guys, anyone know what compiler I would use to compile an .inf file?
[02:31] <Amaranth> whyso: The Ubuntu installer offers to resize the Windows partition for you.
[02:31] <Amaranth> loopout: .inf files are simple text config files
[02:31] <Arrick> thanks Amaranth
[02:31] <anto9us> dmglouis, ifconfig will list your network devices
[02:31] <amit> Amaranth, worked!!! great!! thanks
[02:32] <whyso> ah THANKS amr!!!! could it automatically convert files from ntfs?
[02:32] <g333k_work> kitche, so how can I correct that?
[02:32] <dmglouis> anto9us: well im connecting through wire
[02:32] <|chris3|> sethk: well I can't seem to get lilo to work now.....
[02:32] <Amaranth> amit: I've been burned by 3rd party repos one too many times :)
[02:32] <anto9us> dmglouis, yes, it will list unconnected ones too
[02:32] <THX-1138>   /ignore      -!-   doesn't seem to help
[02:32] <|chris3|> sethk: need food.....
[02:32] <loopout> Amaranth: what do i do with it then? it's a wireless driver that I'm gonna ndiswrap
[02:32] <Amaranth> !ndiswrapper
[02:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:32] <dmglouis> anto9us: yes I have 2: eth0 and lo
[02:33] <anto9us> dmglouis, then you don't have the driver for your wireless installed
[02:33] <dmglouis> anto9us: what wireless? I dont have wireless
[02:33] <Amaranth> loopout: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[02:33] <loopout> thanks!
[02:33] <whyso> when the ubuntu installer offeres to resize the windows partitian does it have the option to convert windows files to ubuntu files?
[02:33] <anto9us> dmglouis, sorry, I assumed wireless when you said router
[02:33] <amit> Amaranth, i learn somthing new today
[02:33] <viator> windows files?
[02:34] <viator> huh?
[02:34] <whyso> ntfs i mean
[02:34] <Amaranth> amit: That's always a good thing. :)
[02:34] <viator> ntfs is a file system
[02:34] <ryepup> freemind: if the output of 'lsusb -v' doesn't change when I have my usb camera plugged in, does that indicates a bad port?  I've had overheating problems with this, so I suspect thats the problem.  Output is pasted here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25857/
[02:34] <dmglouis> anto9us: np
[02:34] <jomino> whyso, no
[02:34] <LiraNuna> whyso, no you can'
[02:34] <LiraNuna> t
[02:34] <ixian_> whyso, no. but once in ubuntu you will be able to access the ntfs drive, however you won't be able to write to it from ubuntu
[02:34] <whyso> ok thanks sorry for askign dumb question im new to all this :(
[02:34] <viator> whyso you want to move some files from windows
[02:34] <anto9us> dmglouis, do you have an inet addr listed next to eth0?
[02:34] <amit> Amaranth, can i ask you one more thing on another topic, will "update-manager -c -d" outcome will the same as installing edgy from scratch?
[02:34] <viator> like office files
[02:34] <viator> mp3s
[02:34] <viator> and videos
[02:35] <dmglouis> anto9us: yes, its 192.168.2.132
[02:35] <viator> you can do that
[02:35] <whyso> yeah basically i want to jsut keep windows for games
[02:35] <anto9us> dmglouis, type route
[02:35] <whyso> and have everything else ubuntu
[02:35] <whyso> without having to uninstall windows
[02:35] <dmglouis> okay it doesn't look right now
[02:35] <anto9us> dmglouis, well that should show your default gateway
[02:36] <viator> resize the windows partion
[02:36] <redDEADresolve> hi everyone
[02:36] <dmglouis> anto9us: and the mask is 0.0.0.0
[02:36] <Amaranth> amit: sort of
[02:36] <whyso> oh, you can do that once youve already installed?
[02:36] <whyso> that would fix everythign :)
[02:36] <dmglouis> anto9us: i thought its supposed to be 255.255.255.0
[02:36] <viator> and then once youve gotten ubuntu set up you can grab files
[02:36] <anto9us> dmglouis, Genmask, on gateway is correct
[02:36] <viator> from windows
[02:36] <Amaranth> amit: anything it considers a custom configuration change will be kept whether you want it or not
[02:36] <whyso> can you resize it once youve installed tho?
[02:36] <dmglouis> anto9us: it is?
[02:37] <viator> a good idea would to be to put the files on cdrom
[02:37] <viator> or dvds
[02:37] <viator> if available
[02:37] <redDEADresolve> #ubuntu-chicago
[02:37] <jomino> whyso, yes you can resize a partition
[02:37] <danielt> Hi I just installed edubuntu on a pc with 4 drives 2 of them with ntfs partitions I followed the instroctions to mount them but i can't see any files thanks for any hel
[02:37] <viator> that way you dont have to worry about corruption or loss
[02:37] <anto9us> dmglouis, yes, that's what mine is showing, I can log into my router fine at the address that shows on that line
[02:37] <whyso> i would but its about 400 GB files hehe
[02:37] <amit> Amaranth, hmm.. what would you recommend? doing it from scratch or dealing with each configuration? will the repos will change accordingly?
[02:37] <dmglouis> anto9us: oh ok
[02:38] <jomino> whyso, but there must be as much free space as you make the partition smaller
[02:38] <grndslm> ahem....could someone help me figure out why i can't see domain names??
[02:38] <Amaranth> amit: it'll change the repos and attempt an upgrade
[02:38] <ixian_> can someone tell me how to create a link to a folder on my desktop?
[02:38] <ixian_> i'm a newb
[02:38] <Amaranth> amit: at this point in edgy development it should upgrade alright
[02:38] <viator> so make 3 pations
[02:38] <jomino> whyso, if ypu want to read/write from both win and lin use a fat32 fs...
[02:38] <dummy> how do I install gnome on ubuntu?
[02:38] <dummy> what packages are involved?
[02:38] <viator> plus 1 for swap
[02:39] <Amaranth> amit: upgrading is slower and more likely to have weirdness but you get to keep all your installed apps and settings
[02:39] <viator> one for windows
[02:39] <viator> 1 for ubuntu
[02:39] <viator> 1 for the files
[02:39] <jomino> dummy, sudo aptitude install gnome-desktop
[02:39] <whyso> i think this all boils down to this: after ive installed already, can i resize the windows partitian (after transfering all but games to ubuntus?)
[02:39] <ChocoCid> yeah
[02:39] <viator> then move all the files to the ext3 partion
[02:39] <ChocoCid> just boot up using hte live cd and partition
[02:39] <ryepup> ixian: open the file browser to the directory you want to link to
[02:39] <ixian_> ok
[02:40] <ryepup> ixian: then go one directory up
[02:40] <viator> whyso YES
[02:40] <ataq> hey can anybody tell me the name of those cool apps on the desktop that show cpu usage and temps and stuff like that please?
[02:40] <ryepup> ixian: right click on the directory you want to link, and select "Make Link"
[02:40] <anto9us> ataq, adesklets?
[02:40] <whyso> oh ok THANKS for everyone who help me im lookign forward to trying out ubuntu :)_)
[02:41] <ixian_> 'make link' is greyed out
[02:41] <grndslm> so i've got a static internet connection setup, right....and i added the dns servers to the /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base file...why can't i see google.com????
[02:41] <ryepup> ixian: what directory are you trying to link?
[02:41] <THX-1138> ataq - conky, gkrellem, torsmo.
[02:41] <ataq> anto9us, is that it is it? is it in the repos?
[02:41] <ixian_> 'jeff' in my home folder
[02:41] <dummy> jomino: its already installed
[02:41] <ataq> THX-1138, which one is the best?
[02:41] <dummy> jomino: any other thing I need for GNome?
[02:41] <ixian_> i cant make link to 'home' either
[02:42] <ataq> THX-1138, for gnome that is
[02:42] <jomino> dummy, no isn't it working?
[02:42] <anto9us> ataq, yes, it's in universe
[02:42] <kieran> 'lo all
[02:42] <dummy> jomino: not working, still says it can't find an installation of Gnome
[02:42] <ataq> anto9us, nice one thanks
[02:42] <kieran> Can someone help me reinstalling grub?
[02:42] <slimemonkey> Can anyone please help me, I recently bought a wireless usb network adapter (Belkin f5d7050) and installed, with ndiswrapper, the .inf and .sys files in the windows driver CD and am also able to confirm that the driver is installed with the ndiswrapper -l command...but when i go to the networking window to activate the wireless connection, there is no option for a wireless connection...there is an ethernet, and a modem conne
[02:42] <slimemonkey> ction available to edit, but no wireless connection
[02:42] <jomino> dummy, mhh can'T tell you anything without more information...
[02:43] <jomino> dummy, you use irssi atm?
[02:43] <ryepup> ixian: weird.  Open a terminal and run ls -al, and please copy/paste in the single line for the jeff directoru
[02:43] <SuperMiguel> any one using ubuntu 6.0.10?
[02:43] <dummy> jomino: I am coming from  CLI to GDM now...still no Gnome install.
[02:43] <dummy> jomino: I am coming from xchat now
[02:43] <anto9us> dmglouis, did you manage to get into it?
[02:43] <SuperMiguel> any one using ubuntu 6.10?
[02:43] <jomino> dummy, mom how do you start xchat if you got no gui?
[02:44] <dummy> I got the GUI, its in failsafe
[02:44] <danielt> viator: Can you help me with ntfs drives under edubuntu 6.10
[02:44] <zircx> sup brah :P
[02:44] <viator> SuperMiguel for info on edgy goto ubuntu+1
[02:44] <slimemonkey> does anyone have any experience setting up wireless connections through usb for ubuntu?
[02:44] <mfx> someone tried run ubuntu with hp pavilion dv5000 series ?
[02:44] <amit> Amaranth, ho man, i thought i was done.. forcing the right version means removing ALOT of other packages for some.. i need to force libpango to the right version, and it basicly wants to remove all my apps
[02:44] <jomino> dummy, and the problem is caused by gnome and not the xserver?
[02:45] <ixian_> ryepup, drwxr-xr-x 28 jeff jeff 4096 2006-10-06 19:39 jeff
[02:45] <Amaranth> amit: oy
[02:45] <viator> danielt i can tell you what little i know
[02:45] <amit>  Amaranth, i will never use none offical repos again
[02:45] <kieran> Can anyone give me a hand re installing grub?
[02:45] <dummy> getting metacity now...
[02:45] <dummy> lets see what happens
[02:45] <viator> i try to avoid ntfs
[02:45] <viator> heh
[02:45] <dummy> brb
[02:45] <Amaranth> amit: you need to manually download pango and gtk from the repos and use dpkg to install them
[02:45] <dummy> brb jomino
[02:45] <danielt> viator:thank you
[02:45] <jomino> mom
[02:45] <ryepup> ixian_: and your username is "jeff", and you're browsing to /home/jeff?
[02:45] <jomino> too late
[02:45] <amit> Amaranth,i guess it solves me doing it from scratch dillema :)
[02:45] <danielt> well i mounted the drives but there is no files
[02:46] <bsdfox> I wish fat32 supported files > 4gb
[02:46] <prog> does anyone know how to increase the ulimit for non su users?
[02:46] <ixian_> yup
[02:46] <anto9us> mfx, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/
[02:46] <amit> Amaranth, hmm how do i do that?
[02:46] <bsdfox> cause I hate dealing with NTFS stuff on my portable drive but fat32 won't let me copy dvd images
[02:46] <zircx> hey, got a question, a little stuck here, I just finished installing xgl,  and I'm sure just about everyone here will no the answer to this apart from me, but I've tried installing compiz, but there's a dependency issue, < Depends: compiz-plugins (>= 0.2) but it is not going to be installed > is there any reason as to why compiz would be giving this error?
[02:46] <Amaranth> amit: look somewhere in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool
[02:46] <grndslm> so i've got a static internet connection setup, right....and i added the dns servers to the /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base file...why can't i see google.com????
[02:46] <ryepup> ixian_: well, I'm afraid thats beyond my knowledge
[02:46] <slimemonkey> i have a wireless usb adapter, but there is no "wireless connection" option in the networking window...any help?
[02:46] <Amaranth> amit: probably under g and p
[02:47] <viator> did you set it upto auto mount?
[02:47] <ixian_> oh well thanks anyway
[02:47] <danielt> yes
[02:47] <viator> in /etc/fstab
[02:47] <ryepup> ixian_: I don't know why that would be greyed out.  Maybe try with another folder?
[02:47] <ataq> ant9us, Hey man I just installed that and ran setup but there isnt anything on the desktop, how do i start the service?
[02:47] <SuperMiguel> !edgy
[02:47] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:47] <danielt> yes
[02:47] <zircx> and also, I'm not sure from a server perspective, but ubuntu is a great desktop working enviroment
[02:47] <zircx> just need to snazz it up a little
[02:47] <jomino> !schedule
[02:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[02:47] <Shadowpillar> when is edgy coming out? this month?
[02:48] <gnomefreak> !release
[02:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[02:48] <jomino> Shadowpillar, 26th
[02:49] <Shadowpillar> is it possible to order the discs now?
[02:49] <zircx> or are people using compiz-vanilla and compiz-gnome-vanilla instead?
[02:49] <jomino> Shadowpillar, why don't you just download it?
[02:49] <grndslm> the edgy eft disks won't be sent out...
[02:49] <grndslm> only dapper
[02:49] <Shadowpillar> jomino: 56k
[02:50] <jomino> Shadowpillar, k takes some time then...
[02:50] <Shadowpillar> by the time I'd even finish downloading it, (and that's if the iso doesn't get corrupted..) the next release would be out
[02:50] <jomino> Shadowpillar, maybe it comes with some linux magazine
[02:50] <grndslm> so i've got a static internet connection setup, right....and i added the dns servers to the /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base file...why can't i see google.com????
[02:51] <ArrenLex> Shadowpillar: ...bittorrent?
[02:51] <Shadowpillar> those $20 magazines?
[02:51] <viator> theres a website that give out free linux cds
[02:51] <Shadowpillar> bittorrent is slower than a direct download for me
[02:51] <viator> but its usally "current"?versions
[02:51] <ArrenLex> Shadowpillar; are you on dialup or something?
[02:51] <Shadowpillar> ...yes.
[02:51] <Shadowpillar> I said this already
[02:51] <jomino> Shadowpillar, i bought a magazine for 8 and had suse 10.1 and kubuntu 6.06 and knoppi...
[02:52] <ArrenLex> Well I only just got here. =P
[02:52] <ArrenLex> Wow, dialup must suck.
[02:52] <Shadowpillar> jomino: linuxformat?
[02:52] <amit> Amaranth, god.. too much work.. i think i will do a clean install...
[02:52] <zircx> grndslm , did you restart your network
[02:52] <Shadowpillar> it's $20 here in the states
[02:52] <g333k_work> is not Opera WEb Browser avaiable for ubuntu?
[02:52] <grndslm> zircx, a coupla times, yea...
[02:52] <jomino> Shadowpillar, sry? what do you want to know?
[02:52] <cafuego_> g333k_work: Yes, it is. Get a .deb version (static Qt)
[02:52] <amit> Amaranth, never the less, you helped me alot today, thanks friend
[02:52] <Shadowpillar> ...
[02:52] <zircx> weird, have you tried using network tools to make sure your settings stuck ?
[02:52] <ArrenLex> g333k: you can run it on Ubuntu, but it's not available in the repositories because it's not open source.
[02:52] <Shadowpillar> nevermind.
[02:53] <grndslm> zircx, i just edited the files by hand
[02:53] <ryepup> my usb devices aren't working, and I think its because my athlon melted my ports.  Output of 'lsusb -v' is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25857/, Output of 'dmesg | grep usb' is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25858/, does anyone know if those indicate any other problems?
[02:53] <jomino> Shadowpillar, sry english is not my first language and  i'm still drunk
[02:54] <zircx> grndslm , I'm not sure why it wouldn't work, I'm use to editing by hand on a slackware box, which normally gives me the result i want, this time around on my newly installed ubuntu desktop, even though it auto-configs, I changed my settings in network tools setting my eth0 connection to a static ip address with my dns server being my router..
[02:54] <Tokenbad> everytime try to open firefox says its already open...and to open another to close it...how can I fix that?
[02:54] <zircx> everything worked fine..
[02:54] <ArrenLex> Tokenbad: try "killall firefox-bin".
[02:55] <ArrenLex> You may have a zombie process.
[02:55] <zircx> I'm still a little lost with the init.d a little
[02:55] <Amaranth> Tokenbad: Press Alt-F2 and type 'killall firefox'
[02:55] <grndslm> zircx, i'll have to try the network tools app, i guess
[02:55] <grndslm> brb
[02:55] <Tokenbad> I did killall firefox that one didn't work
[02:55] <ArrenLex> Tokenbad: killall firefox-bin
[02:55] <Amaranth> Tokenbad: restart?
[02:55] <Amaranth> oh, firefox-bin, whoops
[02:55] <Tokenbad> that one worked
[02:55] <Amaranth> i forgot their goofy with the programs
[02:55] <ArrenLex> they're
[02:56] <Amaranth> Ahhh!! I've having junior year english class flashbacks!
[02:56] <zircx> ah well i'll try this gnome-vanilla thing
[02:56] <viator> Look out for the grammar police!
[02:56] <ArrenLex> If you had to learn what the difference between 'there' and 'they're' was in high school I'm glad I didn't go to school when you grew up. It's elementary.
[02:57] <njan> don't forget their.
[02:57] <ArrenLex> And their.
[02:57] <Amaranth> ArrenLex: No we got 10% taken off every assignment every time we switched them.
[02:57] <ArrenLex> Good! ^___^
[02:57] <njan> ArrenLex, I'm even worse - I'm a "begging the question" nazi. ;)
[02:58] <kieran> Please, would someone help me with grub?
[02:58] <liquidtenmillion> My highschool english teachers would beat to a bloody pulp if I swithced "your" or "you're".
[02:58] <Amaranth> I punish grammar nazis harshly. ;)
[02:58] <hawkaloogie> can anyone access http://cerqueira.org/software/z810/ ? i need the lexmark printer driver that the ubuntu forums tell me to get
[02:58] <hawkaloogie> not even the wayback machine is working :'(
[02:59] <ArrenLex> hawk: did you find that on google? If so, use google's cache.
[02:59] <ryepup> hawkaloogie: doesn't seem to be working for me
[02:59] <grndslm> i wish i could see google.com
[02:59] <zircx> still no go heh?
[02:59] <grndslm> no go
[02:59] <ArrenLex> grndslm: have you tried "ifup -a"?
[02:59] <zircx> are you connected to an router?
[02:59] <grndslm> there's not much to do in the graphical program.....
[03:00] <grndslm> i can connect to the router....
[03:00] <kothz> I have a stupid question. :) is dpkging kubuntu-desktop the best way to move from the padded cell, er, I mean, gnome to kde on ubuntu?  Or is it better to start with the kubuntu disk?
[03:00] <kothz> (I have ubuntu installed)
[03:00] <viator> hawkaloogie whats the printer
[03:00] <kitche> grndslm: can you see if /etc/resolv.conf has anything in it?
[03:00] <zircx> are you using your router as the dns? or yoru isp?
[03:00] <hawkaloogie> viator, lexmark z816
[03:00] <grndslm> but i can't resolve dns for anything....i've added dns servers to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base because they replace /etc/resolv.conf at reboot
[03:00] <ArrenLex> kothz: you can apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and then purge the gnome packages. There was a site that lists all the gnome packages so you can remove them all in one command. Hold on.
[03:00] <hawkaloogie> ryepup, google's caching is trying to access the original site for some reason
[03:00] <viator> ok lemme see
[03:01] <harisund> grndslm, if I might be so rude to interrupt, what is the problem?
[03:01] <grndslm> i'm using opendns servers
[03:01] <grndslm> i just found them recently and i know they're still working right now
[03:01] <hawkaloogie> otherwise if someone in here has gotten a lexmark Z810, Z815, or Z816 to work and still has the driver source, it'd be much obliged
[03:01] <thill2708> since GNOME is the official desktop of ubuntu, though, aren't you missing out on certain supported packages that really tie the distro together?
[03:01] <kothz> gnome isn't the official desktop of kubuntu :)
[03:01] <zircx> why don't you just use your isp server dns?
[03:02] <g333k_work> Why I dont have the /etc/inittab file?
[03:02] <grndslm> zircx, opendns has worked fine and still does
[03:02] <kothz> i'm just looking for an interesting way of spending a friday night :)
[03:02] <grndslm> i have no reason to change
[03:02] <dougsko> thill2708: gnome is gnome no matter what distro its on, and ubuntu is ubuntu no matter what DE/WM you use
[03:02] <grndslm> for some reason one computer is being troublesome, however
[03:02] <kitche> g33k_work: I don't think ubuntu uses that
[03:02] <kieran> Could someone please help me? My MBR got messed up reinstalling win, Ive tried reinstalling grub(which ive done quite a few times before without problem) and i get the error the file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly
[03:02] <thill2708> true, true, but are there programs and other certain functionality you're missing out on by using kde instead of gnome? Aren't most of the programs written for ubuntu for gnome?
[03:02] <thill2708> nmapplet, for example
[03:02] <Draccy> How can I find out if my CD-ROM is using the ide-scsi module?
[03:02] <XenThraL> Hi, I'm having some trouble with sound on KDE -- how do I select which sound card I want to use for my default output?
[03:02] <ArrenLex> kothz: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde.php
[03:03] <dougsko> thill2708: i dont use either one, and i dont miss out on anything
[03:03] <grndslm> harisund, if i knew what the problem was i'd fix it....currently, /etc/resolv.conf has 2 dns servers in it, but i can't resolve a single domain name
[03:03] <ataq> hey does anybody know desktop stat adding tools besides adesklets?
[03:03] <Oskars_LV> I just installed Ubuntu 6.06 server version. As CD drive ir broken, I put the HDD in another computer with working CD for installing. Now, when I put the HDD back into the first computer, network interface doesn't show up. Is it because of different MAC addresses? Where should I look to fix it?
[03:03] <wicked_Zzzz> thill2708, i use k3b in gnome...
[03:03] <thill2708> doug: xubuntu?
[03:03] <Renan_s2> ataq, gkrellm
[03:03] <Renan_s2> !info gkrellm
[03:03] <ubotu> gkrellm: multiple stacked system monitors: 1 process [client] . In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.7-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 388 kB, installed size 948 kB
[03:03] <dougsko> ataq: check out conky
[03:03] <Draccy> Hmmm. I'd guess that it's not, seeing as it's not loaded.
[03:03] <zircx> grndslm , I'd be interested to know what the issue was when you resolve that lil troubleshoot
[03:03] <ataq> nice one thanks lads
[03:04] <grndslm> doh!
[03:04] <Renan_s2> ataq, you also might want to look at gdesklets
[03:04] <harisund> grndslm, how are you connected? Through a router?
[03:04] <grndslm> yup
[03:04] <|chris3|> !info lilo
[03:04] <ubotu> lilo: LInux LOader - The Classic OS loader can load Linux and others. In component main, is optional. Version 1:22.6.1-7ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 335 kB, installed size 1072 kB
[03:04] <keegan_> Hello everyone I was wondering if I could use Devilspie to embed xmms or audacious into my desktop?
[03:04] <ataq> Renan_s2, Nice one thanks very much
[03:04] <zircx> I've not heard of any problems like that before.. seems very weird
[03:04] <grndslm> i can see the router and all computers on my local network
[03:05] <harisund> Can the other computer resolves DNS queries fine?
[03:05] <howlinhobbit> I just replaced Win98 on a Dell Inspiron 5000 laptop and I'm trying to get my PS2 mouse to work. Both the touchpad mouse and the PS2 would work under Win98 but I can't get Ubuntu to see the PS2. Any ideas, anyone?
[03:05] <DigitalNinja> how do I set the system to forward IP traffic?
[03:05] <kieran> anyone?
[03:06] <grndslm> harisund, yes...i can even ping the dns server from the failing 'puter
[03:06] <zircx> firewall?
[03:06] <grndslm> nope
[03:06] <bsdfox> when will dapper begin using madwifi-ng?
[03:06] <grndslm> just a wrt54g that's doing it's job
[03:06] <greeg> hi i just installed ubuntu.  i have rebooted twice becuase my terminal fails to load after closing a previous session?  when i burned ubuntu i ran it through the md5sum  .
[03:07] <grndslm> or its...don't want the grammar nazis after me
[03:07] <greeg> ok suprisingly it is working now.
[03:07] <gbrent> if I have col1 col2 col3 as a result from a grep, how do i only show col1 col3?
[03:07] <Draccy> What system logs would I check for cdrom errors?
[03:07] <viator> heh
[03:07] <wicked_Zzzz> bsdfox, you mean when will they include madwifi-ng in dapper install cd?
[03:08] <Dr_willis> gbrent,  spaces are seperating the col's? or does the data in col's have spaces also?
[03:08] <viator> goodluck with that printer
[03:08] <bsdfox> gbrent, awk '{print $1 $3}' I think
[03:08] <Dr_willis> awk should work.. but spaces may give it some issues...
[03:08] <gbrent> spaces seperate the columns
[03:08] <greeg> how do i change my prompt from @jerware-desktop:~$  to @jerware$     ?
[03:08] <viator> might as well get turbo print or buy a hp or brother or other linux frinedly one
[03:08] <gbrent> thats not the actual output... i just need to learn how to do it
[03:08] <keegan_> Does anyone know how I could embed a music player into my desktop?
[03:08] <greeg> the hostname command failed.  and editing /etc/hosts failed.
[03:08] <zircx> erm, they must have changed the packages the repositories for compiz
[03:08] <zircx> bleh
[03:08] <bsdfox> wicked_Zzzz, no, when will they upgrade to the linux-restricted-modules package that has it? I am still running 2.6.15.11-3 on that
[03:09] <ArrenLex> greeg: it's in your ~/.bashrc
[03:09] <greeg> ahhh
[03:09] <greeg> thanx ArrenLex
[03:09] <DigitalNinja> how do I configure packet forwarding?
[03:09] <wicked_Zzzz> bsdfox, no idea .. never? there will be edgy soon ...
[03:09] <XenThraL> Hi, I'm having some trouble with sound on KDE -- how do I select which sound card I want to use for my default output? anyone can give me a hand?
[03:09] <harisund> grndslm, if you don't mind, can I have a look at your /etc/resolv.conf file somewhere?
[03:09] <bsdfox> wicked_Zzzz, so if I were to upgrade to edgy I'd probably get it?
[03:09] <gbrent> bsdfox: so would I do tail -f log | grep 'string' | awk '{print col1 col2}'
[03:10] <dougsko> DigitalNinja: in /etc/sysctl.conf
[03:10] <wicked_Zzzz> bsdfox, that you got to look at the changelog ...
[03:10] <ArrenLex> XenThra: how does kmix recognise your different cards?
[03:10] <gbrent> bsdfox: I never used awk
[03:10] <XenThraL> yes it does
[03:10] <ArrenLex> XenThra: how? What does it look like?
[03:10] <zircx>  /detach
[03:10] <grndslm> harisund, i promise it's the default comments at the top and each of the opendns servers have their own line right below...
[03:10] <XenThraL> the drop-down menu shows both of them
[03:10] <bsdfox> gbrent, tail -f log | grep 'string' | awk '{print $1 $2}'
[03:10] <raghu206> i have unknowingly removed some of the softwares pls help how to role back
[03:11] <XenThraL> though the second one on the list doesn't seem to function
[03:11] <wickedpuppy> raghu206, what software ? names pls
[03:11] <gbrent> bsdfox: ill try that thanks
[03:11] <wickedpuppy> btw and how you removed them
[03:11] <XenThraL> and somehow the order in which they are on the list changed - they flipped - and now sound isn't working
[03:11] <Guidan> hi i just bout a linksy srx400 wireless card, would ubuntu support it?
[03:11] <ArrenLex> Xenthra: can you send me a screenshot of what kmix looks like with multiple sound cards?
[03:11] <raghu206> wickedpuppy, k3b,gaim
[03:11] <wickedpuppy> Guidan, why not test it ?
[03:12] <wickedpuppy> raghu206, searched in synaptic yet ?
[03:12] <harisund> grndslm, lol :) .. I just added the opendns servers in my file. So my resolv.conf looks like "nameserver <ip>" on 2 different lines.. so I guess openDNS is working fine ... you said you could ping your router right? Perhaps there is a IP conflict or something?
[03:12] <Guidan> wickedpuppy, i dont have ubuntu installed yet
[03:12] <wickedpuppy> Guidan, there is a live cd ...
[03:12] <Guidan> oh really.
[03:12] <DigitalNinja> dougsko: I made the changes. Do I need to restart networking
[03:12] <wickedpuppy> Guidan, yes really
[03:12] <XenThraL> ArrenLex, sec
[03:12] <grndslm> doh....harisund, thank you...i didn't put nameserver at the beginning
[03:12] <Guidan> wickedpuppy, link plz
[03:12] <viator> so yuse apt or synaptic to reinstall k3b and gaim
[03:12] <grndslm> i can't believe i didn't see that
[03:12] <bsdfox> Guidan, that looks like it's a router not a card
[03:12] <raghu206> wickedpuppy, there are many others when i am installing a library file they got removed
[03:12] <wickedpuppy> Guidan, or use knoppix or any live cd ...
[03:12] <grndslm> you da man!!
[03:13] <harisund> grndslm, I am guessing it works?
[03:13] <wickedpuppy> raghu206, yah so pls search in synaptic
[03:13] <wickedpuppy> and install them from there
[03:13] <Guidan> wickedpuppy, the only linux i use is ubuntu is knoppix as easy?
[03:13] <wickedpuppy> Guidan, nvm .. use the lice cd
[03:13] <wickedpuppy> live
[03:14] <Guidan> link
[03:14] <Guidan> ?
[03:14] <ArrenLex> Xenthra: also, have you thoroughly checked out the Switches tab? Especially the dropdowns on the righ?
[03:14] <ArrenLex> y
[03:14] <ArrenLex> t *
[03:14] <wickedpuppy> Guidan, live/install cd are the same .. get the dapper
[03:14] <Freijja> I have a problem with firefox wanting to download .cgi pages instead of open them
[03:14] <Guidan> dapper??
[03:14] <Freijja> Any way to fix this?
[03:14] <wickedpuppy> Guidan, you DO use ubuntu ... right ? may i ask how did you install it ?
[03:14] <tecta> hmm, Starting MythTV server: mythbackendSession management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[03:14] <XenThraL> ArrenLex, trying to dcc it over
[03:15] <grndslm> harisund, actually it doesn't...i did a lil' /etc/init.d/networking restart and it's still a nova!
[03:15] <deadly_venom> Where can I get Adobe Flash for Linux ?
[03:15] <Guidan> wickedpuppy, well i burn the iso and run it.
[03:15] <howlinhobbit> does anyone have any idea how to get Ubuntu 6.06 to recognize my PS2 mouse on my Dell Inspiron 5000 laptop?
[03:15] <bsdfox> tecta, don't run it as root
[03:15] <ArrenLex> deadly: www.adobe.com?
[03:15] <wickedpuppy> Guidan, how long ago was it ?
[03:15] <ArrenLex> deadly: if you mean the authoring tool and not the player, you can't. There is none.
[03:15] <ArrenLex> deadly; you could, however, run Flash MX with wine.
[03:15] <Guidan> wickedpuppy, long maybe 1 year
[03:15] <Guidan> or longer
[03:15] <greeg> i now have a courpted .bashrc
[03:15] <ArrenLex> Yay greeg. xD
[03:16] <greeg> i just comented a line
[03:16] <wickedpuppy> Guidan, then pls download the latest stable ubuntu ...
[03:16] <bsdfox> howlinhobbit, I have an inspiron 5100 and my mouse is recognized just fine
[03:16] <greeg> how can i restore it
[03:16] <deadly_venom> ArrenLex I went to a site, that requires flash, when I click on "Install Plugins" It then said FAILED.
[03:16] <harisund> greeg you could always copy the default .bashrc from /etc/skel/.bashrc if you think ou have corrupted yours
[03:16] <harisund> grndslm, no problem. Let's try it again .. from first..
[03:16] <greeg> ok thanx
[03:16] <Guidan> wickedpuppy, once i download it , and burn it , i can run off of the cd ?
[03:16] <harisund> grndslm, first.. your ip/subnet/gateway settings... can you check them?
[03:16] <ArrenLex> deadly: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:17] <wickedpuppy> Guidan, yes ..its both live/install cd in one ... get the dapper .. stable version .. not edgy
[03:17] <grndslm> harisund, i will return in 2 min.
[03:17] <howlinhobbit> bsdfox: that's good, but mine isn't... I did some changes in the xorg.conf file (that I found in the user documentation) and that didn't work
[03:17] <Guidan> wickedpuppy, thanks
[03:17] <harisund> grndslm, take yoru time :)
[03:17] <bsdfox> howlinhobbit, /dev/psm0 ?
[03:17] <howlinhobbit> I don't know what that means
[03:18] <wickedpuppy> Guidan, pls get knoppix if you got time and bandwidth .. its one of ther most famous live cd distro out there ...
[03:18] <bsdfox> did you set the mouse device to be /dev/psm0
[03:18] <deadly_venom> ArrenLex Got it, thanks.
[03:18] <howlinhobbit> no. how do I do that?
[03:18] <Guidan> wickedpuppy, easy to use?
[03:18] <bsdfox> edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:18] <tecta> bsdfox, it asks for a pass, i tried putting in my root pass but says it's incorrect
[03:18] <ixian_> !ati
[03:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:18] <ArrenLex> ixian: are you having ati driver problems?
[03:19] <bsdfox> tecta, wierd
[03:19] <wickedpuppy> Guidan, live cd ... there is no need to install .. easy ? why you want linux to be easy ? you should ask if its as good as ubuntu .. not easy
[03:19] <deadly_venom> !ndiswrapper
[03:19] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:19] <bsdfox> tecta, have you tried putting in your user pass?
[03:19] <howlinhobbit> bsdfox... I'll look at what it says now and brb
[03:19] <tecta> bsdfox, yeah
[03:19] <Guidan> ok is it as godod?
[03:19] <Guidan> good
[03:19] <deadly_venom> ArrenLex I want to get my pcmcia card to work under Ubuntu, Do I really need ndiswrapper/madwifi ?
[03:19] <wickedpuppy> Guidan, it is one of the most famous live cd ... i think that says it all ...
[03:19] <ArrenLex> Why are you asking me? xD I know nothing about wireless cards.
[03:19] <bsdfox> tecta, maybe you should reinstall, sounds like something got fked up
[03:20] <bsdfox> deadly_venom, what kind of wifi card?
[03:20] <tecta> bsdfox, also... Starting MythTV server: mythbackendSession management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[03:20] <grndslm> harisund, i put the lines in the resolv.conf.d/tail file instead of the /base file and it worked out!
[03:20] <bsdfox> if madwifi supports it you are looking good
[03:20] <Guidan> wickedpuppy, ok thanks im gonna take a look at it, have u heard of something call troppix?
[03:20] <tecta> bsdfox, that's when trying to do /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start (as root)
[03:20] <wickedpuppy> Guidan, all the ppix comes from knoppix
[03:20] <howlinhobbit> right now there's a line that says: Option          "Device"                "/dev/input/mice" -- is that what I should change?
[03:20] <MissLady> anyone can help me please ?  I use Ubuntu and my cable modem don't work since installation.
[03:20] <bsdfox> tecta, try uninstalling it and reinstalling it.. then use sudo instead of root
[03:20] <bsdfox> howlinhobbit, yes
[03:21] <Shadow_mil> is their any good speech recognition for Linux/Ubuntu
[03:21] <Shadow_mil> programs*
[03:21] <XenThraL> ArrenLex, did you see my PM ?
[03:21] <howlinhobbit> thanks... pls repeat what I should change it to
[03:21] <grndslm> harisund, i'm not sure what difference that should have made, but i'm not complaining anymore....thanks a lot!!
[03:21] <ArrenLex> XenThra: no.
[03:21] <howlinhobbit> oh wait... found how to scroll back up
[03:21] <XenThraL> ArrenLex, http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/317/snapshot3oc8.png
[03:22] <ArrenLex> XenThra: and when you select another card, the interface changes to reflect that card?
[03:22] <XenThraL> yes
[03:22] <XenThraL> but the sound output doesnt
[03:22] <Oskars_LV> Ubuntu's reply to "ifconfig eth0" - "eth0: error fetching interface information: Device not found", ifconfig shows only loopback interface, not 2 other interfaces
[03:22] <XenThraL> even clicking the green buttons
[03:22] <ArrenLex> XenThra: then select the proper card you want, then right-click on the tray icon, go "Select Master Channel" and pick the Master channel for the right card.
[03:22] <ArrenLex> Xenthra: if that doesn't work, I don't now how to help you further. I only have one card.
[03:23] <tecta> bsdfox, k i uninstalled / reinstalled
[03:23] <tecta> tecta@xetra:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start
[03:23] <tecta> Starting MythTV server: mythbackendSession management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[03:23] <Shadow_mil> is their any good speech recognition programs for Linux/Ubuntu?
[03:23] <Oskars_LV> it started after putting HDD in other computer for installing
[03:23] <bsdfox> tecta, are you running mysql?
[03:23] <tecta> bsdfox, yeah
[03:24] <bsdfox> maybe that is where the error is coming from
[03:24] <wickedpuppy> Shadow_mil, search for "speech recognition" in synaptic ?
[03:24] <tecta> bsdfox, how should i check?
[03:24] <Guidan> wickedpuppy, i forgot do i dl the md5 too or just iso?
[03:25] <XenThraL> ArrenLex, thanks man -- you have no idea how much I'm kicking myself for not seeing that option
[03:25] <ArrenLex> XenThra: did it help? xD
[03:25] <XenThraL> ArrenLex, I reinstalled alsa, did the whole forum post
[03:25] <Shadow_mil> wickedpuppy: it comes up with some Snitho2 program, and I tried, but it does not work well and is only really for testing
[03:25] <XenThraL> because I didn't click that option before....
[03:25] <wickedpuppy> Guidan, just iso .. md5 only if you want to check the md5sum
[03:25] <XenThraL> I feel quite stupid :p
[03:25] <Shadow_mil> Sphinx 2*
[03:25] <wickedpuppy> Shadow_mil, well then wait for someone who knows :P
[03:25] <ArrenLex> XenThra: glad I could help, then. xD
[03:25] <ixian_> do the ati drivers work for the radeon x850 xtpe in dapper drake?
[03:26] <kitche> ixian_: do you mean the binary drivers?
[03:26] <greeg> ArrenLex:  i just completly removed .bashrc and i still get the horriffic prompt  of jerware@jerware-desktop:~pathname$
[03:26] <greeg> which is excruciatingly long
[03:26] <ixian_> kitche, the ones that this page explains how to install : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:26] <Dr_willis> did you log back in to a new shell?
[03:26] <ArrenLex> greeg: did you restart your terminal?
[03:27] <lluka> hi there, can someone hellp me with an error im getting with a tarball
[03:27] <lluka> ?
[03:27] <greeg> i Xed out
[03:27] <Dr_willis> greeg,  google for bash prompt howto. :P make a nice one
[03:27] <lluka> ./configure: line 19175: syntax error near unexpected token `$SWIG_VERSION'
[03:27] <greeg> and opened an other one
[03:27] <lluka> thats the error
[03:27] <kitche> greeg: to have it change you have to source a bashrc
[03:27] <ciphernemo> I can't switch one of my unused partitions to xfs from ext3. Doing it in Disks Manager or command line yields an unmounted partition. Any ideas why?
[03:27] <greeg> i did source .bashrc
[03:27] <wickedpuppy> lluka, you mean you got problem compiling ? or you got problem with a tarball ? pls be specific
[03:28] <Dr_willis> if you removed .bashrc - what did you source?
[03:28] <lluka> compiling
[03:28] <lluka> it uses automake
[03:28] <lluka> software is called mapacman
[03:28] <wickedpuppy> lluka, what program is it ?
[03:28] <bsdfox> deadly_venom, what kind of wifi card?
[03:28] <greeg> i removed it after i changed it becuase the changed didnt change jack sh*t
[03:28] <kitche> lluka: it's bad source code it looks like
[03:28] <lluka> :(
[03:28] <lluka> damn
[03:28] <greeg> i just removed a variable
[03:28] <greeg> to cut down the size
[03:28] <wickedpuppy> lluka, then pls file the bug to the dev
[03:29] <greeg> i want to know why the changes are woefully failing.
[03:29] <Dr_willis> PS1='\w\$ '   is a nice short prompt
[03:29] <kitche> greeg: even though the host thing is in /etc/bashrc I believe since the user .bashrc is for the user only
[03:29] <lluka> hmm wonder if i can find a repository with the software
[03:29] <Dr_willis> greeg,  i would guess you are doing somthing wrong.
[03:29] <lluka> i've already installed all the dependencies
[03:29] <tonyyarusso> How can I change a network from "Preferred" to "Trusted" for NetworkManager?
[03:29] <Dr_willis> greeg,  the ps1 may be getting exported by a parrent process.
[03:29] <wickedpuppy> lluka, not in ubuntu repo .. i got all the repos and i can't find that package by that name
[03:29] <lluka> damn :(
[03:30] <lluka> so i'll need a deb file
[03:30] <viator> packman is a package manager
[03:30] <viator> isnt it theone ark uses?
[03:30] <redDEADresolve> i need a good torrenting program, one that can handle multiple torrents, allow me to choose what in the torrent i want to download and not eat up my system reasources
[03:30] <ArrenLex> lluka: why don't you just open the configure script and look at line 19175 to see if anything is out of place?
[03:31] <lluka> well the thing is
[03:31] <lluka> the file im trying to compile is
[03:31] <lluka> arriannexp
[03:31] <jbmigel> redDEADresolve look into torrentflux... it is awesome and you can control it over the web
[03:31] <lluka> ariannexp*
[03:31] <lluka> then i can continue to play mapacman
[03:31] <lluka> im sorry i got confused earlier
[03:31] <viator> oh thats a game
[03:32] <lluka> multiplayer pacman
[03:32] <lluka> :D
[03:32] <Dr_willis> mspacman ?
[03:32] <Dr_willis> :P
[03:32] <ciphernemo> I can't switch one of my unused partitions to xfs from ext3. Doing it in Disks Manager or command line yields an unmounted partition. Any ideas why?
[03:32] <Jewfro> readDEADresolve, also see azureus
[03:32] <jbmigel> azureus blows
[03:32] <Jewfro> opinion, works great for me
[03:32] <redDEADresolve> jbmigel wow how come i've never heard of that one
[03:32] <wickedpuppy> ciphernemo, pls give exact error
[03:33] <jbmigel> redDEADresolve you didnt ask... it's cool cuz you can drive your torrents from anywhere.. then when you get home they are done!
[03:33] <wickedpuppy> redDEADresolve, then you must be new to torrent .. i been using it for 2+ years now
[03:33] <gbrent> bsdfox: now I have the output 7/10/06 11:32:12:SenderWorker> originator="19739788891", company="ZIMCORP", terminalProvider="Sprint",   how do I cut out ":SenderWorker>"?
[03:33] <redDEADresolve> i dont like azurues, love its features but not the implentation
[03:33] <gbrent> bsdfox: I used awk to get that
[03:33] <redDEADresolve> naw im just used to bitcomet i really liked it
[03:33] <ciphernemo> wickedpuppy: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda3, missing codepage or other error  In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so
[03:34] <redDEADresolve> feel free to laugh
[03:34] <wickedpuppy> ciphernemo, so did you do as it suggested ?
[03:34] <jbmigel> redDEADresolve ya azureus is ok if you like java and have too much ram and maybe you remote into your box to control it
[03:34] <greeg> is this not the line to change PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -ne "\033] 0;${USER}@\007"'   ?
[03:35] <greeg> how does that  remotely corespond to jerware@jerware-desktop:~$
[03:35] <wickedpuppy> jbmigel, i got 512mb ram and azureus is fine ...
[03:35] <ciphernemo> wickedpuppy: if I set the partition as filetype ext3, it formats and mounts just fine... as xfs or jfs, it croaks. I'm not sure what to do from the error message?
[03:35] <greeg> i just loged out of my desktop
[03:35] <greeg> source .bashrc doesnent work
[03:35] <jbmigel> wickedpuppy i have 64mb of ram and it is not
[03:35] <redDEADresolve> i have 3gigs @ 667 and it just is too much of a hog
[03:35] <bsdfox> gbrent, is that what you wanted?
[03:35] <kitche> ciphernemo: I m not sure if ubuntu has xfs support or jfs
[03:35] <greeg> sudo: unable to lookup jerware-desktop via gethostbyname()    why ?
[03:35] <tonyyarusso> kitche: Yes
[03:35] <redDEADresolve> i have tons to burn but not for a torrent ap
[03:35] <wickedpuppy> ciphernemo, then ah its xfs or jfs problem ?
[03:36] <gbrent> bsdfox: yes but I need to take off a little more.... If I have the output 12345 from a awk '{print $1, $2}' | grep '123' ... how do I cut off the 45?
[03:36] <wickedpuppy> greeg, do hostname .. what you get ?
[03:36] <greeg> jerware-desktop
[03:36] <ciphernemo> kitche: Debian has xfs support... ubuntu should, especially since it includes the file fsck.xfs
[03:36] <bsdfox> gbrent, you can use "cut"
[03:36] <jbmigel> redDEADresolve keep in mind you need apache and php for torrentflux... so there is overhead there too
[03:36] <wickedpuppy> then funny why you got gethostbyname() error ...
[03:36] <g333k_work> Helo
[03:36] <ciphernemo> wickedpuppy: yes, an xfs problem, not a partition problem per say I guess
[03:37] <gbrent> cut is a command or part of awk?
[03:37] <greeg> how  is a dns resolution at all relevent to sudo  ?
[03:37] <wickedpuppy> ciphernemo, if ext3 is fine then the partition should be ok .. do fsck to be sure
[03:37] <wickedpuppy> gbrent, cut is a bash command ..
[03:37] <gbrent> so I have to pipe cut also
[03:37] <bsdfox> gbrent, echo "7/10/06 11:32:12:SenderWorker> originator="19739788891", company="ZIMCORP", terminalProvider="Sprint"" | cut -c 18-29
[03:37] <greeg> sad how sudo uses such complex methods for such minute tasks.
[03:37] <bsdfox> if you append that cut command it should do it
[03:38] <wickedpuppy> now are also second #bash ...lol
[03:38] <redDEADresolve> know of any progams that  run lighter? I'm using rufus but it sucks so bad
[03:38] <ciphernemo> wickedpuppy: yup, everything is 100% functional with ext3. I need to use xfs or jfs since this PC will be recording multiple-GB-sized files and need to delete them on the fly
[03:38] <gbrent> bsdfox: thank you... ill work with that
[03:38] <|chris3|> can someone point me to a web page that shows how to install lilo?
[03:38] <wickedpuppy> ciphernemo, then i got no idea ..
[03:38] <ArrenLex> chris3: any reason you don't want grub?
[03:38] <wickedpuppy> !lilo
[03:38] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[03:38] <ciphernemo> wickedpuppy: ext3 isn't up to the task unless majorly tweak something
[03:38] <greeg> i would hate to reinstall ubuntu just becuase sudo is a failure and the source is a woeful failure
[03:38] <thill2708> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=ubuntu+how+to+install+lilo&btnG=Search
[03:38] <wickedpuppy> sweet
[03:38] <bsdfox> redDEADresolve, freeloader is pretty low-usage
[03:38] <ciphernemo> wickedpuppy: thx for trying
[03:39] <wickedpuppy> blah i failed .. no point thanking me :P
[03:39] <|chris3|> Arrenlex: because grub has not been working for me for about a week
[03:39] <thill2708> !brub
[03:39] <ArrenLex> In what way?
[03:39] <thill2708> !grub
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about brub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:39] <RealFG> ArrenLex: Thanks for the help the other day.
[03:39] <ArrenLex> What did I do?
[03:39] <RealFG> ArrenLex: This is FriedGeek btw
[03:40] <jbmigel> does anyone even work on lilo anymore/
[03:40] <|chris3|> arrenlex: sethk helped me for about an hour today and we gave up on grub so he suggested installing lilo
[03:40] <ArrenLex> Oh! Hi FredGeek =D
[03:40] <ArrenLex> I was kind of worried that you disappeared after a reboot. o_o
[03:40] <ciphernemo> I can't switch one of my unused partitions from ext3 to xfs, as it yields an invalid filesystem type & unmounted partition. Ext3 on the partition works just fine. I can use xfs just fine when this system was running Debian 3.1 r3 sarge, but not with ubuntu. What's wrong?
[03:40] <RealFG> ArrenLex: I did get my res up. Needed to pick the right settings for the screen max res and refresh.
[03:40] <redDEADresolve> bsdfox, you got a url for it?
[03:40] <jbmigel> ciphernemo do you have xfs support in your kernel?
[03:41] <ciphernemo> jbmigel: good question, how can I check?
[03:41] <bsdfox> redDEADresolve, it's in synaptic
[03:41] <RealFG> ArrenLex: the defaults I had been accepting only went up to 1040x768.
[03:41] <ciphernemo> jbmigel: 2.6.15-27-686 kernel
[03:41] <ArrenLex> RealFG: yeah, that's why I increased the resolution in your xorg...
[03:41] <gbrent> bsdfox: I am actually trying to cut out ":SenderWorker>" ... I am getting an error: cut: invalid character in range
[03:41] <redDEADresolve> bsdfox, thanks the only url i found was last updated in april 2005
[03:42] <mcphail> ciphernemo: the stock ubuntu kernels support xfs
[03:42] <ciphernemo> RealFG: manually edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to add higher resolutions if you know your system supports it
[03:42] <bsdfox> gbrent, paste your command line
[03:42] <redDEADresolve> bsdfox, does it allow me to only download part of a torrent. like only 2 mp3s instead of the whole albulm?
[03:42] <thill2708> does anyone know of a program like hellanzb but for torrents?
[03:42] <gbrent> bsdfox: the whole command is actually tail -f /logs/server.log | awk '{print $1, $2, $6, $8, $10}' | grep 'SenderWorker' | cut -c ':SenderWorker\>'
[03:42] <ciphernemo> mcphail: that's good to know... but I'm not running a 386 kernel :P Do you know if the kernel I listed supports xfs?
[03:43] <mcphail> ciphernemo: yes
[03:43] <gbrent> with out the \ in ':SenderWorker\>'
[03:43] <RealFG> ArrenLex: Cool. I'm just happy to be at 12x10. Getting used to U as well not in quite as much of a hurry to infect the rest of the drive with windoz.
[03:43] <bsdfox> gbrent, that's not how cut works
[03:43] <bsdfox> gbrent, man cut
[03:43] <ciphernemo> mcphail: good. Any idea why I'm having problems then? Any way to help me troubleshoot it?
[03:43] <ArrenLex> RealFG: Enjoying it?
[03:44] <mcphail> ciphernemo: i'm no expert, but i'll try
[03:44] <RealFG> ArrenLex: You bet. I miss my mac. (Gave it to the wife) And I'm loving the feel of Evolution and some of the other apps.
[03:44] <ciphernemo> mcphail: well, worth a shot... you may be more of an expert than I :)
[03:44] <mcphail> ciphernemo: i missed your full description of the problem
[03:44] <Guidan> wickedpuppy, where can i find out what kind of program knoppix comes with.
[03:45] <Guidan> nvm
[03:45] <ArrenLex> RealFG: Mac has a unix core. I heard there's a lot of similarities.
[03:45] <viator> i bought a mac for the wife and its like bleh
[03:45] <viator> she likes ubuntu better
[03:45] <ChocoCid> mac is based on BSD
[03:45] <ciphernemo> mcphail: sure... I can't use xfs on my 3rd partition (/dev/sda3). It will croak when I try to change it to xfs, and it won't mount. ext3 works just fine, though
[03:45] <jbmigel> ciphernemo it appears to me it is in stock kernel... /boot/config-2.10.blah
[03:45] <bsdfox> OS X is slow
[03:46] <ChocoCid> i mean, they're based on UNIX, sure, but that's like saying "windows 3.1 and XP are both based on DOS"
[03:46] <RealFG> ArrenLex: Yeah. Darwin was branched from BSD and you can even run X and Aqua at the same time.
[03:46] <ChocoCid> which, while true, doesn't exactly mean anything to the end user
[03:46] <viator> they want topsell you a .mac acct for every app
[03:46] <bsdfox> XP isn't based on dos
[03:46] <mcphail> ciphernemo: take me through the steps you are doing
[03:46] <viator> you need the acct for alot of apps
[03:46] <viator> wth
[03:46] <ChocoCid> hrm... true
[03:46] <ChocoCid> ME was the last one on top of DOS, right?
[03:46] <ciphernemo> jbmigel: 2.10.xxx was not the stock kernel for me on ubuntu 6.06 dapper
[03:46] <RealFG> .mac seems like the biggest waste.
[03:46] <kitche> viator: most of those apps are commerical
[03:47] <viator> ilife
[03:47] <viator> crap
[03:47] <thill2708> isn't .mac 'sposed to get some huge overhaul soon?
[03:47] <bsdfox> yeah
[03:47] <RealFG>  iLife. I do love those apps.
[03:47] <kitche> ChocoCid: sorta that's when they started to change over to a sudo dos
[03:47] <bsdfox> ME is the worst one ever too
[03:47] <jbmigel> ciphernemo sorry ya i mean 2.6... look at the config file in your /boot under filesystems you can see xfs there
[03:47] <ChocoCid> ME is a turd, yeah
[03:47] <RealFG> HEHE Anyone here remember M
[03:47] <RealFG> err MS Bob?
[03:47] <ChocoCid> is there a good "widget" program like konfabulator or whatever out there for linux? googling "linux widgets" gets me programming widgets, which, while useful, aren't exactly what i'm interested in (yet)
[03:48] <viator> bob never materialized
[03:48] <ChocoCid> any recommendations?
[03:48] <thill2708> gdesklest, chococid?
[03:48] <ArrenLex> ChocoCid: like superkaramba?
[03:48] <thill2708> dgesklets, that is
[03:48] <thill2708> damn
[03:48] <thill2708> gdesklets
[03:48] <thill2708> jesus
[03:48] <RealFG> apt-get jesus
[03:49] <FarrisG> Can anyone help me figure out why x11vnc makes Xorg eat lots of CPU and vncviewer VERY sluggish?
[03:49] <Simulacra> hello, has anyone here had any luck with rt71 wireless drivers in Edgy?
[03:49] <viator> apt-get moo
[03:49] <ArrenLex> apt-get install jesus
[03:49] <ArrenLex> E: Couldn't find package jesus
[03:49] <ArrenLex> Aw.
[03:49] <Simulacra> or VIA deltachrome
[03:49] <viator> hehe
[03:49] <ciphernemo> mcphail: sure... #sudo umount /dev/sda3  .... #sudo fsck.xfs -f /dev/sda3  .... #sudo mount /dev/sda3 /video
[03:49] <RealFG> hehe
[03:49] <ben__> Anybody know why firefox keeps crashing everytime I get a msg on googletalk?
[03:49] <ciphernemo> something similar to that
[03:49] <viator> sudo apt-get moo
[03:49] <ChocoCid> proof that there is no jesus :P
[03:49] <ArrenLex> Gasp! :O
[03:49] <bsdfox> gbrent, echo "7/10/06 11:32:12:SenderWorker> originator="19739788891", company="ZIMCORP", terminalProvider="Sprint"" | cut -d : -f 3,4 | cut -c 3-16
[03:50] <ChocoCid> ubuntu christian edition notwithstanding!
[03:50] <wickedpuppy> Guidan, google for knoppix pls
[03:50] <ArrenLex> root@ubuntu:/home/alex# apt-get install God
[03:50] <ArrenLex> E: Couldn't find package God
[03:50] <ArrenLex> AHA! THERE IS NO GOD
[03:50] <mcphail> ciphernemo: sudo mkfs.xfs, surely?
[03:50] <ArrenLex> I KNEW IT
[03:50] <ChocoCid> ^5
[03:50] <RealFG> Godbuntu
[03:50] <ChocoCid> Godisdeadbuntu
[03:50] <viator> ubuntu ce
[03:50] <viator> lmao
[03:50] <RealFG> HEHE
[03:50] <ChocoCid> viator : i'm not joking, it actually exists
[03:50] <ciphernemo> mcphail: oops, yes, that one
[03:50] <viator> christian edition
[03:50] <viator> i know
[03:50] <ChocoCid> yeah :(
[03:50] <viator> lol
[03:50] <ChocoCid> so stupid
[03:50] <RealFG>  :-S
[03:51] <ChocoCid> In Ubuntu Christian Edition you can burn heretic cds only.
[03:51] <RealFG> oh.
[03:51] <RealFG> oh.
[03:51] <ChocoCid> With Ubuntu Christian Edition, you don't need to surf the web. You can walk on it.
[03:51] <RealFG> Oh. man that was good.
[03:51] <ChocoCid> http://christianubuntu.blogspot.com/  <-- have fun
[03:51] <ChocoCid> Dual boot is not possible in Ubuntu Christian edition. "Thou shalt have no other operating systems before Me...".
[03:51] <ajmitch> ChocoCid: enough of the mockery, thanks
[03:51] <daxxar> I use LIRC and a remote to control most applications on my ubuntu-machine. Problem is, the screen blanks out if I just browse the menus etc (don't start apps). Only way to remedy it is to press some keyboard keys. Can't find any BIOS settings. Any suggsetions?
[03:51] <thill2708> ChristianUbuntu is the new ChuckNorrisFacts
[03:52] <RealFG> Dual boot BSD / Ubuntu CE now there is a conflict of logos.
[03:52] <mcphail> ciphernemo: do you still have /dev/sda3 as ext3 in your /etc/fstab?
[03:52] <deadly_venom> Anyone familiar with ndiswrapper ?
[03:52] <viator> yeah too bad they got rid of beasty!
[03:52] <boris55> penguins wear nun suits anyways..
[03:52] <ChocoCid> haha RealFG
[03:52] <RealFG> boris55: good point
[03:52] <wickedpuppy> guys its nice but there are people asking for help ... can go to #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[03:52] <harisund> deadly_venom, just ask your question... somebody will surely be :)
[03:53] <RealFG> Sorry. mybad. I'll lurk and soak up knowledge.
[03:53] <lluka> anyone know a repository with ariannexp ?
[03:53] <boris55> isn't os X, Darwin or something. I guess they have to go after the market that won't use apple.
[03:53] <deadly_venom> It has been said, my wireless card works in ndiswrapper 1.23 only, is it safe to install the latest ndiswrapper which is 1.25 ?
[03:54] <bsdfox> deadly_venom, probably
[03:54] <bsdfox> deadly_venom, what kind of network card
[03:54] <harisund> deadly_venom, under ideal circumstances, yes... you shouldn't be having a problem ..
[03:54] <kitche> deadly_venom: probably there isn't much of a difference besides better better hooks really
[03:54] <ciphernemo> mcphail: I was just trying something different on my own in the process of pastebining the message for you and it looks like it took this time. Not completely sure. How can I check a filesystem type on the command line?
[03:55] <gerryxiao> how to setup qemu on ubuntu?
[03:55] <deadly_venom> bsdfox Belkin pre-N wireless network card .. Model#: F5D8010
[03:55] <kitche> ciphernemo: just run mount
[03:55] <gerryxiao> especially tun+bridge on qemu
[03:55] <deadly_venom> harisund , killefiz thanks!
[03:56] <harisund> deadly_venom, oh best wishes!
[03:56] <mcphail> ciphernemo: paste the output of "grep /dev/sda3 /etc/fstab"
[03:56] <Simulacra> hello, has anyone here had any luck with rt71 wireless drivers in Edgy?
[03:56] <Simulacra> or VIA deltachrome
[03:56] <deadly_venom> harisund Thanks ..
[03:56] <deadly_venom> Last Question ..
[03:56] <ciphernemo> mcphail: my imagination, it was just stuck on ext3... lemme get everything ready and pastebin it for ya
[03:57] <kitche> Simulacra: ask in #ubuntu+1 they would know better
[03:57] <Simulacra> thanks
[03:57] <mcphail> ciphernemo: it should only be one line, so just paste it here
[03:57] <deadly_venom> Is kernel-source installed by default, or do we have to install it ?
[03:58] <ArrenLex> deadly: you have to install it yourself.
[03:58] <kitche> deadly_venom: you have to install it and build-esstenial
[03:58] <wickedpuppy> kernel source must be install by you ...
[03:58] <wickedpuppy> its too big for one cd
[03:58] <wickedpuppy> and most people don't need it
[03:58] <bsdfox> you need to install it
[03:58] <deadly_venom> wickedpuppy yes, you need it for ndiswrapper ..
[03:59] <wickedpuppy> deadly_venom, and i don't need ndiswrapper ...
[03:59] <ciphernemo> mcphail: /dev/sda3       /video          ext3    defaults        0       2
[03:59] <talisein> Hi, I'm running the latest Edgy. I created a Software Raid via mdadm. It worked fine, but when I rebooted, /dev/md0 wasn't there any more. What did I forget? :)
[03:59] <ciphernemo> mcphail: but now I'm trying to mkfs.xfs it
[03:59] <wickedpuppy> most people ... that means majority ...
[04:00] <mcphail> ciphernemo: open /etc/fstab in an editor and change the ext3 to xfs
[04:00] <raghu206> when i boot into ubuntu i shud use parameter acpi=off why shud i do that do someone have any idea
[04:00] <wickedpuppy> raghu206, to off acpi ?
[04:00] <ciphernemo> mcphail: done
[04:01] <raghu206> wickedpuppy, yah may be
[04:01] <talisein> raghu206: does your computer work without specifying acpi=off?
[04:01] <mcphail> ciphernemo: now try your mount command as before
[04:01] <ciphernemo> mcphail: k
[04:01] <raghu206> talisein, no it reboots
[04:01] <wickedpuppy> raghu206, your question should be what is acpi and how does it affect my computer ..
[04:01] <floyd2> Anyone know what lib I need to install for mpc (muse) file support?
[04:01] <bsdfox> deadly_venom, what chip is in that wifi card?
[04:01] <ciphernemo> mcphail: mount: Unknown error 990
[04:02] <mcphail> ciphernemo: :(
[04:02] <raghu206> wickedpuppy, may be so pls answer for that
[04:02] <deadly_venom> just curious, how can I share files/folder between Ubuntu and my Windows box ?
[04:02] <talisein> raghu206: if your computer works, go ahead and use ACPI. It lets the kernel keep track of the power requirements for all your components. For older equipment, however, it doesn't support ACPI
[04:02] <wickedpuppy> !acpi
[04:02] <mcphail> ciphernemo: you have created the filesystem with mkfs.xfs /dev/sda3?
[04:02] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (dapper), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[04:02] <floyd2> !mpc
[04:02] <jbmigel> deadly_venom use samba
[04:02] <ubotu> mpc: A command-line tool to interface MPD. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.2-1 (dapper), package size 28 kB, installed size 136 kB
[04:02] <ciphernemo> mcphail: to create it as an xfs file system, is it just # mkfs.xfs /dev/sda3 , or do I want other options?
[04:02] <ciphernemo> mcphail: yes
[04:03] <floyd2> !musepack
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about musepack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <talisein> deadly_venom: via a Samba share. :) install samba, then go to System -> Admin -> Shared folders, and you should be able to set it up
[04:03] <ciphernemo> mcphail: I unmounted it before I created it with that command before
[04:03] <mcphail> ciphernemo: that _should_ be fine, although you may have to pass a -f flag
[04:03] <ciphernemo> mcphail: I only needed the -f flag once, when it had data on it... now it's blank, so no need for -f
[04:04] <mcphail> ciphernemo: does the mkfs command give any error?
[04:04] <jtholmes> !repos
[04:04] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:04] <ciphernemo> mcphail: nope
[04:04] <floyd2> is there an mpc decoder in debian universe?
[04:04] <mcphail> ciphernemo: "sudo mount -t xfs /dev/sda3 /video"?
[04:04] <floyd2> err...Ubuntu universe :-)
[04:05] <lluka> can someone check if they can get ariannexp to show up in synaptic?
[04:05] <ciphernemo> mcphail: interesting... that seemed to work... let me check
[04:05] <ciphernemo> mcphail: woot! ... /dev/sda3 on /video type xfs (rw)   :)
[04:05] <kitche> !ariannexp
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ariannexp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:06] <talisein> I created a Software Raid via mdadm. It worked fine, but when I rebooted, /dev/md0 wasn't there any more. What did I forget? :)
[04:06] <SuperMiguel> how can i install ubuntu 6.10?
[04:06] <mcphail> ciphernemo: excellent. now unmount it to see if that works
[04:06] <ciphernemo> mcphail: so it needed the type xfs specified on the mount, even though the mkfs.xfs was done? odd
[04:06] <deadly_venom> talisein shared folder is already in there, after I've installed Ubuntu..
[04:06] <ciphernemo> mcphail: I'll do that
[04:06] <kishore> ubotu, dapper
[04:06] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[04:07] <talisein> deadly_venom: yeah, but it won't actually give you the option to create a samba share until you install the samba package.
[04:07] <kishore> wots the next version after dapper
[04:07] <deadly_venom> SuperMiguel which one, do you have cd iso image or dvd iso image?
[04:07] <talisein> likewise with NFS (linux-linux filesharing)
[04:07] <ciphernemo> mcphail: sweet, now regular umount and mount work on it without problems.  Thanks! You fixed a problem I've been struggling with on and off for days :)
[04:07] <wickedpuppy> lluka, i got all the repos and its not in my synaptic ...
[04:07] <mcphail> ciphernemo: open up a _new_ shell and type "sudo mount -a"
[04:07] <mcphail> ciphernemo: (to check if the /etc/fstab is ok)
[04:08] <ciphernemo> mcphail: that was done... now look at fstab?
[04:08] <mcphail> ciphernemo: no, it should work ok now
[04:08] <deadly_venom> talisein I want to share a folder FROM windows, and view it FROM ubuntu .. Do I still need the samba package ??
[04:08] <lluka> perhaps im spending way too much time getting PACMAN to work lol
[04:08] <ciphernemo> mcphail: yup, stuck still as xfs all over... even with mount readout and fstab. Thanks! :)
[04:09] <wickedpuppy> lluka, yah .. start learning programming
[04:09] <Illusion_of_Art> Does Ubuntu not recognize NTFS?
[04:09] <talisein> deadly_venom: ooooooh. Yeah, I think so. For that go to Places -> Connect to Server and select Windows Share. You may or may not need samba. prettty sure you do though
[04:09] <kishore> can any one tell wots the next version after dapper
[04:09] <talisein> kishore: edgy eft
[04:09] <ChocoCid> #ubuntu+1 :)
[04:09] <kitche> not by default Illusion_of_Art but no linux does by default
[04:09] <ciphernemo> mcphail: thanks again :)
[04:09] <ChocoCid> you can download it now, but it's not released
[04:10] <lluka> im a web designer, these languages wont help me much
[04:10] <mcphail> ciphernemo: i take it you are trying mythtv or similar?
[04:10] <talisein> Illusion_of_Art: It should be able to Read it, but not write
[04:10] <Illusion_of_Art> Yes, that's what I'm getting
[04:10] <ciphernemo> mcphail: exactly... now on to the long process of installing 0.20 mythtv
[04:10] <kishore> officially i had released na
[04:10] <kishore> not released ..
[04:10] <Illusion_of_Art> I need to be able to use Linux and XP. Should I use vFAT then?
[04:10] <talisein> Illusion_of_Art: there is -some- write support, upstream. I don't know what hoops you have to rush through
[04:10] <mcphail> ciphernemo: i suspect ext3 would have been perfectly ok. Never mind... :)
[04:11] <talisein> Illusion_of_Art: yeah, vfat is best for that situation
[04:11] <wickedpuppy> congrat ciphernemo  :P
[04:11] <Illusion_of_Art> Okay, XP wouldn't let me do FAT32 for some reason
[04:11] <Illusion_of_Art> formatting that is
[04:11] <talisein> once XP converts to NTFS it usually doesn't let go
[04:11] <ciphernemo> mcphail: it would have worked ok for shorter shows... but would have been slow to delete recorded movies and such
[04:11] <talisein> are you setting up a data share between XP and Linux, or what?>
[04:12] <Illusion_of_Art> Yeah, it's an external drive through an enclosure
[04:12] <talisein> If you format it from linux it should work fine
[04:12] <mcphail> ciphernemo: i have never seen a convincing benchmark showing xfs is faster
[04:12] <Illusion_of_Art> I have an external drive but screwed it up hooking it up to my Mac which tried to reformat it
[04:12] <talisein> lol ouch
[04:12] <deadly_venom> talisein thanks for the help, ill just install samba package, just to be on the safe side.
[04:13] <talisein> everything wants to reformat to its own
[04:13] <Illusion_of_Art> Now, Windows and Mac won't read it because it's not formatted but Linux reads it fine
[04:13] <kitche> mcphail: it almost native compared to ext3 or ext2
[04:13] <talisein> deadly_venom: np :)
[04:14] <Illusion_of_Art> So I got a new disk to copy everything to so I can use it in both OS's. I've given up on using it in OSX again
[04:14] <talisein> There's no way to stop OSX from automatically formating? that's crazy
[04:14] <kitche> well it's tries to kill NTFS since it hates it :)
[04:15] <wickedpuppy> talisein, you got to give up something for user friendliness ... most people will probably connect their drive to read and since OS can't read then it assume its new and format ... logical choices
[04:16] <Illusion_of_Art> Well, the drive that OSX tried to reformat was FAT32
[04:16] <ciphernemo> wickedpuppy: thx
[04:16] <Illusion_of_Art> I'm beginning to really really hate Windows
[04:16] <talisein> wickedpuppy: yeah, I sort of see that. drives you buy might be pre-formatted. but erasing a user's data without asking is not user friendly
[04:16] <wickedpuppy> Illusion_of_Art, does that tell us something about steve jobs and bill gates ? :P
[04:17] <ciphernemo> mcphail: no one claimed it was faster except for deletion of large files. I have to go from what people write in articles and guides, since I have no way of knowing one way or another.
[04:17] <Illusion_of_Art> Yes! I only use Windows because Ubuntu doesn't have the greatest support for music software
[04:17] <mcphail> ciphernemo: :)
[04:17] <talisein> ciphernemo: lol, I bet you just went on the same googling trip I did
[04:17] <wickedpuppy> talisein, sure ... but it makes sense to format competitior drive ...
[04:17] <talisein> I just set up an XFS partition myself for my anime collection
[04:18] <viator> ubuntu has great music software
[04:18] <wickedpuppy> most mac fanboys will love it
[04:18] <mcphail> ciphernemo: it is certainly faster to _create_ an xfs filesystem than ext3, but beyond that i have never found any advantages
[04:18] <deadly_venom> list of ndiswrapper, shows my card,  which is a good thing, but it says it needs NETANI.inf .. where can  I get it from?
[04:18] <wickedpuppy> viator, linux has great music software ...
[04:19] <viator> yep
[04:19] <talisein> deadly_venom: look on your windows box. /Windows/System/ maybe
[04:19] <talisein> Anyone here a RAID guru?
[04:19] <Illusion_of_Art> I got Studio to Go and have been trying it out but it doesn't support my video card too well. 800x600 is murder on my eyes
[04:20] <viator> netani.inf is the same place as your driver probably
[04:20] <deadly_venom> talisein system or system32 ?
[04:20] <talisein> system32.
[04:20] <talisein> I guess system is what they called it in win98... I'm windows free now, so I can't remember these things
[04:20] <ciphernemo> mcphail: ah, I see... well, I'll have to take your word for it. I'm just glad my filesystem for MythTv recordings matches what everyone in guides online recommends :)
[04:21] <Illusion_of_Art> I would however recommend Ubuntu as the consummate OS for home or office use
[04:22] <talisein> deadly_venom: if its not there, then use Window's file search, including the option to search for hidden and system files
[04:22] <sancocho> hi all, I need some help with my totem. It was able to play all my xvids and mp4 movies, etc, but as of a couple of weeks ago it stop working. I've searched the forums and they talk abgout reinstalling, or recompiling, but after reinstalling I don't think this is the case. Also because as root, I totem will play these files, and nautilius will preview them, but under the normal user it won't. Any help will be appreciated, thanks.
[04:22] <Illusion_of_Art> I have no problems with device drivers in Ubuntu. I bought a new USB mouse and it was detected automatically. Windows however took three minutes to recognize it
[04:22] <blind> Problem. I get home, switch my workspace to the one I use, computer locks up. I get into tty1, do a ps aux, nothing seems out of the ordinary. I restart X. It loads, I can do stuff. I have no background icons, alt+click isn't moving stuff, ALT+F2 isn't opening my run  box, etc etc
[04:22] <talisein> sancocho: I've never had a lot of luck with Totem. Use mplayer if you can. ;)
[04:22] <wickedpuppy> or vlc
[04:23] <nex_> hi everyone
[04:23] <nex_> need some help mounting an HD in ubuntu
[04:23] <bsdfox> totem is garbage
[04:23] <OBcecado> hi, i just installed ubuntu 6.06 lts and i'm having problems updating, it replies repository lists are not valid, where can i get a new list ?
[04:23] <Illusion_of_Art> I'm having problems with xmms
[04:23] <sethk> blind, how do you get it back?
[04:23] <talisein> blind: it sounds like nautilus is not starting up, or is at least protesting
[04:23] <sancocho> talisein: yeah... I can do that or VLC, but I liked totem, because also nautilius would preview the movie
[04:24] <blind> Okay, killall'd nautilus, restarted it. I have desktop icons, yet no alt+click
[04:24] <ciphernemo> OBcecado: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[04:24] <OBcecado> yes
[04:24] <OBcecado> mom please
[04:24] <nex_> anyone here help me out with my mounting problem?
[04:24] <sethk> blind, when it's working, do ps aux (saving the output)
[04:24] <talisein> nex_: sure
[04:24] <sethk> blind, then do the same when it's borked
[04:24] <blind> nex_: sudo mount /dev/drive /mnt/drive
[04:24] <nex_> talisein, thanks
[04:25] <sethk> nex_, if you use the form without -t, you only need one of the two directories
[04:25] <sethk> nex_, if you don't (it isn't in fstab), you need both plus -t
[04:25] <talisein> blind: Ctrl-Alt-F1, log in and run top
[04:25] <sethk> nex_, as in, -t ext3 or -t ext2 or whatever
[04:25] <nex_> blind, i have an HD with three partitions. One NTFS (XP), and two more, both ext3
[04:25] <talisein> see if there's something sitting at 100% cpu
[04:25] <blind> top, talisein? what's that do?
[04:25] <SuperMiguel> when i try to install ubuntu 6.10 it says could not calculate the upgrade
[04:25] <nex_> one has this distro and the other is clean, it's not showing up in linux, is this a mounting issue?
[04:25] <blind> nex_: you're aware you're gonna get read only on that ntfs, right?
[04:25] <talisein> top lists the computer processes in order of CPU usage
[04:25] <sethk> nex_, you need to mount it
[04:26] <blind> talisein: nothing's at 100%
[04:26] <nex_> yea i know, that's why i want the one i can't mount to be ext3
[04:26] <talisein> do you see nautilus anywhere?
[04:26] <blind> yes. i told you i restarted it
[04:26] <nex_> sethk, what is the exact syntax? and can i use Disk Manager?
[04:26] <SuperMiguel> when i try to install ubuntu 6.10 it says could not calculate the upgrade
[04:26] <sethk> nex_, I have no idea about disk manager, it's so much easier at the command line.
[04:27] <nex_> ok
[04:27] <talisein> while you're on the command like blind, go ahead and aptitude update && aptitude upgrade
[04:27] <nex_> sethk, so i use the mount command
[04:27] <sethk> nex_, if it's an ext3 file system on hda3, you would do:   sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda3 /mnt/whatever
[04:27] <eegore> I am having a small issue with my sound in ut2k4 with dapper
[04:27] <sethk> nex_, yes.  I'm not saying disk manager won't do it, I don't know.
[04:27] <nex_> sethk ok give me a sec
[04:27] <sethk> nex_, but the mount command definitely will :)
[04:27] <jtholmes> SuperMiguel: at what point in the install do you get the message
[04:27] <OBcecado> pastebin is strangely slow :s
[04:28] <eegore> I changed to the onboard device and the rest of the system is ok with it but the game will not play sound
[04:28] <blind> wtf!~
[04:28] <LuisMendes> how can I add SSL support to the newest GAIM beta?
[04:28] <talisein> blind:??
[04:28] <blind> nautilus is closing/opening nonstop
[04:28] <talisein> ooooooooooooooooo
[04:28] <sethk> talisein, good call
[04:28] <ciphernemo> OBcecado: use rafb.net/paste instead
[04:28] <nex_> sethk, it's an ext3 at /dev/sda2
[04:28] <ciphernemo> pastebin itself is hosed
[04:28] <SuperMiguel> jtholmes: at checking the package on the fetching and install upgrades
[04:28] <nex_> sethk, it has no access path (according to Disk manager), i'm using DM to check the properties
[04:28] <firefly2442> How would I go about renaming all files in a folder and adding .jpg as an extension using the commandline?
[04:29] <deadly_venom> talisein nop,, it's not there .. how can I know, which inf files is for my wireless nic (I've already installed the software that came with it)
[04:29] <eegore> is there a script for reconfiguring alsa
[04:29] <jtholmes> SuperMiguel: cant remember does it give you a chance to bypass that step if yes bypass and update after install
[04:29] <SuperMiguel> noup
[04:29] <SuperMiguel> it doesnt
[04:30] <OBcecado> cyphernemo: http://rafb.net/paste/results/EcwYfd58.html
[04:30] <nex_> sethk, it's telling me: "mount point mnt/sda2 does not exist"
[04:30] <blind> nex_: sudo mkdir /mnt/sda2
[04:30] <mister_roboto> firefly2442: for n in *; do mv $n $n.jpg; done
[04:30] <nex_> sethk, rgr
[04:30] <talisein> deadly_venom: I've never used nswrapper or whatever myself.. I have to point you at google for nwo
[04:30] <jtholmes> SuperMiguel: although  i  am not a package repo specialist it sounds like it could not contact the url for the package lists
[04:30] <ChocoCid> !ndiswrapper
[04:30] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:30] <nex_> sethk, thought it would do that automatically, assuming it wasn't there...
[04:30] <jtholmes> SuperMiguel: so what are the choices after that msg
[04:31] <sethk> nex_, no, it must exist
[04:31] <nex_> sethk, should i reboot?
[04:31] <SuperMiguel> close :(
[04:31] <blind> nex_: you're not on windows anymore ;) rebooting is almost never necessary.
[04:31] <firefly2442> mister_roboto, thank you :)
[04:31] <nex_> sethk, lol
[04:31] <greatcaffeine> Anyone know how to get WPA working in 6.10?
[04:31] <jtholmes> SuperMiguel: well all you can do is close and see if the os got installed and procede  from there
[04:31] <ChocoCid> haha
[04:31] <nex_> sethk, i'm still in withdrawls
[04:31] <ChocoCid> you only have to reboot if something TELLS you to reboot
[04:32] <blind> you only reboot if you update your kernel :P
[04:32] <ChocoCid> this is generally kernel updates
[04:32] <blind> haha
[04:32] <ChocoCid> and... uh...
[04:32] <talisein> SuperMiguel: abort update manager and goto System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager. Hit Mark All Upgrades and then Apply and see if that works
[04:32] <deadly_venom> how can I know, which inf files is for my wireless nic (I've already installed the software that came with it)?
[04:32] <nex_> sethk, so i have to access /mnt/sda2 to access the disk?
[04:32] <sethk> nex_, you do it as root (with sudo) so that's moot
[04:32] <talisein> blind: did you see if updating would help yet?
[04:32] <nex_> sethk, what do you mean?
[04:33] <blind> talisein: it's updating now.
[04:33] <blind> then im gonna restart X
[04:33] <talisein> ok. did it mention upgrading nautilus? ;)
[04:33] <Razor-> Im using wine and i have a tutrial showing me how to install dreamweaver and my wine isnt letting me copy one of my folders
[04:33] <blind> I didn't see it. I'll double check
[04:33] <nex_> sethk, only thing in the /mnt/sda2 folder is a lost+found
[04:33] <blind> talisein: what version of nautilus do you have? :] 
[04:34] <sethk> nex_, if it's a new file system, that's what should be in it.
[04:34] <sethk> nex_, it's empty.  the mkfs creates the lost+found directory.
[04:34] <sethk> nex_, what did you expect to see?
[04:34] <wickedpuppy> pr0n!!!
[04:34] <nex_> sethk, ok, so how can i get it to show up on my desktop?
[04:34] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:34] <wickedpuppy> thats what i expect to see ...
[04:34] <Razor->  Im using wine and i have a tutrial showing me how to install dreamweaver and my wine isnt letting me copy one of my folders
[04:34] <nex_> sethk, and that partition was once called sda5, it's still present in the fstab
[04:34] <ghostshadow189> hi all , i ran command : sudo alien --help . but it told me "sudo: alien: command not found"
[04:35] <sethk> nex_, make a shortcut to it, I suppose.  copy one that is already there, and change the path
[04:35] <SuperMiguel> talisein: it didnt work :(
[04:35] <talisein> blind: dunno how to check lol.
[04:35] <nex_> sethk, so does that mean it's still being mounted even though it doesn't exist?
[04:35] <sethk> nex_, it does exist
[04:35] <OBcecado> ciphernemo, is it me who is doing something wrong ?
[04:35] <wickedpuppy> ghostshadow189, pls install it then
[04:35] <sethk> nex_, there aren't any files in it.
[04:35] <ghostshadow189> oh how ?
[04:35] <talisein> SuperMiguel: the error said your package repositories were bad? or still unable to calculate?
[04:35] <wickedpuppy> ghostshadow189, synaptic
[04:35] <sethk> nex_, copy some files to it, you'll see it.
[04:35] <ghostshadow189> apt-get install alien ???
[04:35] <wickedpuppy> or yah
[04:35] <nex_> sethk, no what i'm saying is
[04:35] <wickedpuppy> either one
[04:35] <sethk> nex_, you want to have an icon, and click on it, and see a file  manager gui program?
[04:35] <floyd2> Anyone know how to convert mpc to mp3?
[04:36] <nex_> sethk, now it's called sda2, before when it was an ntfs partition is was recognizing it as sda5, fstab still has a line with sda5 in it...
[04:36] <sethk> nex_, if it's sda5, and you reference it as sda2, you'll destroy it.
[04:36] <talisein> blind: I have 2.14.3-0ubuntu1
[04:36] <sethk> nex_, sda2 is probably your extended partition.
[04:36] <nex_> ok
[04:36] <sethk> nex_, you never mount an extended partition
[04:37] <SuperMiguel> still unable to calculate
[04:37] <sethk> nex_, do umount /dev/sda2        then mount it again using sda5
[04:37] <sethk> nex_, _if_ sda2 is an extended partition and sda5 is a linux partition
[04:37] <talisein> funky. Were you the one that posted your sources.list somewhere?
[04:37] <nex_> sethk, no i don't think it's the extended
[04:37] <sethk> nex_, do  fdisk -l /dev/sda       to see the partitions
[04:37] <OBcecado> it was me who posted it
[04:37] <nex_> sethk, ok
[04:37] <sethk> nex_, if it's not extended, then you are done.
[04:37] <talisein> oh
[04:38] <sethk> nex_, you can make a shortcut on the desktop to browse it.
[04:38] <blind> I'm gonna reboot, this isn't working right, maybe a fresh boot will do some good :\
[04:38] <blind> be back in a bit guys.
[04:38] <sethk> nex_, I use kde, and for that I use this command in a shortcut:    konqueror /mnt/whatever
[04:38] <sethk> nex_, don't type "/mnt/whatever", type the real mount point.  :)
[04:38] <nex_> sethk, it's saying cannot open /dev/sda
[04:38] <sethk> nex_, sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[04:38] <OBcecado> it returns me: failed to fetch listurl 404 not found, where listurl is the real link
[04:38] <RealFG> Two quick questions, how can I tell If I'm using the Nidia driver with 3D accel?
[04:38] <mboso> anyone know where the default application icons are stored in gnome?
[04:39] <nex_> sethk, ok i got 1,2,3,4
[04:39] <RealFG> And I can't seem to play mp3's 'out of the box'
[04:39] <sethk> RealFG, yes, look in the X log
[04:39] <nex_> sethk, 1 is Xp NTFS, 2 and 3 are Linux, and 4 is swap
[04:39] <sethk> nex_, ok, so they are all primary
[04:39] <talisein> SuperMiguel: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to.. what is it, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:39] <RealFG> sethk: cool.
[04:39] <sethk> nex_, ok, so sda2 is empty (you did mkfs.ext3 on it, right?)
[04:40] <nex_> sethk, you mean format it as ext3?
[04:40] <sethk> nex_, so make yourself a shortcut as I just described.  All it will show initially is lost+found, of course.
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> RealFG, mp3 is patented ... thats why
[04:40] <talisein> when you click "paste it" you need to reply to me here with the new URL (something like paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20342/)
[04:40] <sethk> nex_, it's already created (we don't say format; format of an ide drive is a different thing that you never do).
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> !mp3 > RealFG
[04:40] <RealFG> wickedpuppy: AH!
[04:40] <sethk> nex_, it's already created, because you are able to mount it.
[04:40] <talisein> You can use fluendo for mp3
[04:40] <sethk> nex_, so you have free space mounted on /mnt/whatever.  which is what you want, I think, right?
[04:40] <talisein> its free software, they got a license
[04:41] <nex_> yea
[04:41] <talisein> apt-cache search fluendo and you can add it to gstreamer
[04:41] <wickedpuppy> talisein, then can you play mp3 in other software ?
[04:41] <sethk> nex_, so you don't have a problem.  :)
[04:41] <nex_> sethk, so now i create a Launcher with a directory instead of a command?
[04:41] <talisein> yeah, then you should be able to play it in everything on your computer
[04:41] <sethk> nex_, you don't.  As I just explained, the command is the name of the file manager program.
[04:42] <talisein> XMMS, Rhythmbox, whatever the KDE thing is, whatever
[04:42] <sethk> nex_, I use konqueror
[04:42] <wickedpuppy> talisein, then it installs the mp3 codecs ?
[04:42] <talisein> yeah
[04:42] <sethk> nex_, so the shortcut would be (again)   konqueror /mnt/whatever
[04:42] <sethk> nex_, if you use gnome I think you probably want nautilus as the command
[04:42] <nex_> sethk, gotcha
[04:42] <wickedpuppy> talisein, so they buy the license and give away for free ?
[04:42] <nex_> sethk, right
[04:42] <sethk> nex_, it's easier to do than to explain  :)
[04:42] <nex_> sethk, i have to start getting into the [program]  [option]  world
[04:42] <talisein> wickedpuppy: yeah. something like that. Like, they're allowed to do it
[04:42] <talisein> too
[04:43] <wickedpuppy> talisein, opensource ?
[04:43] <talisein> yeah
[04:43] <wickedpuppy> then how they got the money to buy the license ?
[04:43] <talisein> i think
[04:43] <xUnaBx> hi is there any grub master out there?
[04:43] <wickedpuppy> !ask
[04:43] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:43] <nex_> sethk, HA!
[04:44] <nex_> sethk, Got it!, thanks man, you know you're the best in here ;)
[04:44] <sethk> nex_, I take it, it's working?
[04:44] <sethk> nex_, np
[04:44] <nex_> sethk, always got the right answers
[04:44] <nex_> sethk, so that lost+found goes away after i place a folder in it?
[04:44] <nex_> sethk, or a file...
[04:44] <sethk> nex_, no, not unless you delete it, and you shouldn't.
[04:45] <jtholmes> xUnaBx: ask your question
[04:45] <nex_> sethk, ok another thing, now i have to chmod it?
[04:45] <sethk> nex_, it will only be used if you run fsck on the partition and errors are found, which is rare.
[04:45] <sethk> nex_, you would if there were any files on it.  :)
[04:45] <wickedpuppy> sethk, you can also mount as the user ...
[04:45] <nex_> sethk, well there is nothing but lost and found and doesn't let me write to it
[04:46] <talisein> wickedpuppy: its under MIT license, which is open source
[04:46] <talisein> I created a Software Raid via mdadm. It worked fine, but when I rebooted, /dev/md0 wasn't there any more. What did I forget? :)
[04:46] <wickedpuppy> talisein, then really doesn't that make you wonder how they can release a mp3 player under OSS license ?
[04:47] <Jaksh_Eet> Getting a kernal panic error when trying to install Ubuntu on an old compaq laptop.
[04:47] <talisein> fluendo is the organization behind the entire gstreamer framework. Its in debian, so I don't worry ;)
[04:47] <wickedpuppy> ah i see
[04:48] <hockyhair> i was wondering why 5% if my partition goes to /root? and also has anyone gotten any identd running?
[04:48] <wickedpuppy> so it also install gstreamer i assume ? now its all cleared ...
[04:48] <blind> Got it workin :] 
[04:48] <talisein> hockyhair: 5% goes to the root process, so that system log files can continue to write even if other bad things are happening
[04:48] <wickedpuppy> root process ?
[04:49] <talisein> well, yeah. Processes running with superuser power
[04:49] <hockyhair> talisein: 5 percent of a big drive can end up being a lot of valueable space is there a way to set it at a given amount rather than percent?
[04:49] <talisein> i guess there is no "root process" except for init
[04:49] <wickedpuppy> talisein, i thought he is asking about hd space
[04:49] <wickedpuppy> not the process ...
[04:49] <talisein> hockyhair: the default was set way back in the day
[04:50] <talisein> hockyhair: you can change it with tune2fs
[04:50] <talisein> down to 1% if you want
[04:50] <hockyhair> what is recommended?
[04:50] <hockyhair> i have 120 gigs on this box
[04:50] <kitche> talisein: well there is many processes that run as root
[04:50] <hockyhair> so 10 gigs for root processes seems excessive
[04:50] <nex_> sethk, so how should i use chmod on sda2? since i can't write any info on it
[04:50] <talisein> if you have many gigs of space, I'd say 1% is fine for the partition that has / (or /var/log)
[04:51] <efrancolaporte> hi i need help, i bought a new PSU and it won't turn on my PC I have NO IDEA WHY
[04:51] <hockyhair> talisein: ok.. i'll man tune2fs
[04:51] <talisein> if you have partitions that don't include that, then set it to 0
[04:51] <hockyhair> ty for your help
[04:51] <talisein> np
[04:51] <efrancolaporte> when I plug my old PSU back the system boots normally
[04:51] <talisein> hmmmmm
[04:51] <efrancolaporte> and yes I double checked all the connections to the motherboard, hard drives etc
[04:51] <talisein> efrancolaporte: There isn't a 120V-240V switch on the new one is there?
[04:51] <hockyhair> reserved-blocks-percentage?
[04:51] <efrancolaporte> yes there is. I checked, it is rightfully set to 115V
[04:52] <lluka> anyone know how to set java home variable?
[04:52] <talisein> hockyhair: yah
[04:52] <hockyhair> seems like that would be the option
[04:52] <hockyhair> ok
[04:52] <talisein> had to open the man page myself to doublecheck ;)
[04:52] <bun-bun> efrancolaporte~ does the new ps have a hard 0/1 switch in the back?
[04:52] <kitche> lluka: I normally just put java in my path
[04:52] <efrancolaporte> yes it does
[04:52] <hockyhair> talisein: does the device need to be umounted
[04:52] <talisein> heh. Also: Is the new power supply hooked up to a cable
[04:53] <lluka> how i do that?
[04:53] <lluka> :/
[04:53] <hockyhair> unmounted..
[04:53] <efrancolaporte> and yes it is set to I when I turn on my PC lolll
[04:53] <lluka> cant get any java to run
[04:53] <bun-bun> efrancolaporte~ if you've checked and double checked everything, my guess is you got a doa psu
[04:53] <bun-bun> it's happened to me before
[04:53] <talisein> hockyhair: dunno for sure, but I doubt it. I don't think the setting will make a dramatic impact on the filesystem structure
[04:53] <efrancolaporte> i strongly doubt it
[04:53] <talisein> try it without --force ;)
[04:53] <efrancolaporte> it is the 2nd time I try to install a 3rd party PSU on this PC
[04:53] <efrancolaporte> (it's an emachines)
[04:54] <talisein> o
[04:54] <efrancolaporte> 2nd time 3rd party PSU do not work
[04:54] <talisein> efrancolaporte: you've checked the wattage requirements?
[04:54] <efrancolaporte> my bet is that something is wrong with the BIOS
[04:54] <talisein> I dunno about that.
[04:54] <xUnaBx> i'm facing some weird issue with grub, which i've partially solved. I've recently switched my server screen for a tiny 8' LCD. Once the correct vsync value has been added to the kernel option in grub,  i have a console display. X is working fine too as i've edited xorg.cong accordingly. What i cant figure is why grub is not displaying anything. It goes like : the server boots : i can see the bios messages, etc,,, then <blank>, i can
[04:54] <efrancolaporte> yes I checked. It's a 350W PSU. my old working one is only 300W
[04:55] <efrancolaporte> so i cant be overloading it
[04:55] <Dr_willis>   xUnaBx  still at it eh... :()
[04:55] <xUnaBx> Dr_willis : yes :)
[04:55] <niroxx> what time is it in your country ?
[04:55] <xUnaBx> Dr_willis : actually i did sleep a bit too :)
[04:55] <talisein> hmm, so: the cable from the power button to the MB is there (it works now after all)......... does the new PSU have a fan sensor wire to be plugged into the MB?
[04:55] <efrancolaporte> im wondering if theres something on my motherboard that would make it reject non-emachines PSUs since my computer is a pre-built emachines
[04:56] <efrancolaporte> no, the PSU is fanless
[04:56] <efrancolaporte> it's an Antec Phantom 350
[04:56] <bsdfox> I want a fanless PSU :(
[04:56] <efrancolaporte> lol thats why i bought it
[04:56] <efrancolaporte> but it doent start!!!! :'( sniff
[04:57] <talisein> hmmmmmmmmmmm did the old PSU have a fan wire to the MB?
[04:57] <hockyhair> anyone use an identd, oidentd or pidentd for example?
[04:57] <efrancolaporte> you mean a fan connected to the MB?
[04:57] <SurfnKid> someone please tell me how to set the opacity state in compiz ( no one answers in #xgl or #ubuntu-xgl
[04:57] <bsdfox> efrancolaporte, I work at a computer repair place.. there isn't anything like that on an emachines
[04:57] <efrancolaporte> no i dont think the PSU has its fan conencted directly to the MB though
[04:57] <talisein> well, like a fan on the PSU connected to the MB
[04:58] <bsdfox> efrancolaporte, you're not getting anything or just no video? have you made sure you've got the 4-pin connector plugged in too if the mobo has a slot for it?
[04:58] <jtholmes> xUnaBx: just for  grins how  many choices  do you have on your grub menu
[04:58] <bsdfox> efrancolaporte, other than that.. maybe it was really the mobo that went out
[04:58] <lluka> anyone know how to run a jpnl file?
[04:58] <talisein> bsdfox: the computer works with the old power supply
[04:58] <efrancolaporte> yes the motherboard has its 4 pin connected to the PSU as well
[04:59] <efrancolaporte> no i am not getting nopower whatsoever even the case fan do not start
[04:59] <xUnaBx> jtholmes : what do u mean?
[04:59] <theunruled> Hello, I have a question. How do you input chinese?
[04:59] <bsdfox> SurfnKid, I installed gnome-compiz-manager and got those options
[04:59] <efrancolaporte> no the MB isn't dead because I'm using it right now with the older PSU
[04:59] <bsdfox> SurfnKid, it's a right click on the titlebar menu
[04:59] <hockyhair> thanks for the help
[04:59] <bsdfox> efrancolaporte, LOTS of PSUs are DOA
[04:59] <jtholmes> xUnaBx: when u edit your  /boot/grub/menu.lst  how many kernel entries  are there and what is the default time out limit value
[05:00] <talisein> is the PSU from Newegg?
[05:00] <jtholmes> xUnaBx: in other words how many different kernels can you boot from
[05:00] <xUnaBx> jtholmes : i have like 4 entries, two kernels + recover modes, one memtest and it times out after 5 sec
[05:00] <efrancolaporte> bsdfox.... i hear a bzzz a fraction of a second when I try to turn on the PSU, then I try again and i hear nothing, if that hints to something
[05:00] <niroxx> good night
[05:00] <efrancolaporte> no the PSU is from a local store in my city (Ottawa, Canada) called PC Cyber
[05:01] <talisein> sounds like my kind of place
[05:01] <SurfnKid> bsdfox: yeah but you can set (or used to) the opacity settings for all the different window types, i used to be able to do it in the previous compiz settings but i cant find it now on this new latest one
[05:01] <xUnaBx> jtholmes : actually it's just the menu itself that goes out of range, i've found something like "vbeprobe" on google, i'm about to give it a try
[05:01] <jtholmes> xUnaBx: ok change the timeout to 60 seconds when screen blanks after post wait 10 seconds and down arrow to the mem test and see if that executes
[05:01] <kitche> efrancolaporte: it's a bad PSU
[05:01] <wasabi> Hello. Anybody aware how to get a SATA DVD drive to be recognized on Dapper?
[05:01] <bsdfox> efrancolaporte, it's a bad power supply
[05:01] <wasabi> It sees it as a sg0 device, but the drive itself is unclaimed.
[05:01] <jtholmes> xUnaBx: if it does then the  grub menu is displaying somewhere
[05:01] <wasabi> No driver.
[05:02] <seshomaru123> hi, i just created a new partition (out of an old xp that i dont use) ,how do i mount it in ubuntu?
[05:02] <SurfnKid> bsdfox: the titlebar is one way
[05:02] <efrancolaporte> see the thing that bugs me the most is that the store has a %20 restocking fee for retuning items
[05:02] <jtholmes> xUnaBx: and you can alter what it boots
[05:02] <talisein> wasabi: what brand
[05:02] <seamus7> Hi everyone. I'm using Dapper and would like to update to a new webcam driver package (GSPCAV1) here:   http://mxhaard.free.fr/download.html    ....  I'm hoping it gives even better support to my Logitech Quickcam IM  .....  I've downloaded the archive but as a newbie I'm not sure what I need to do to make the update. Can anyone help?
[05:02] <wasabi> plextor
[05:02] <efrancolaporte> thats why i DONT want to return it i want it fixed :-(
[05:02] <bsdfox> efrancolaporte, exchange will be free
[05:02] <xUnaBx> jtholmes : oh i know it's working, it does actually, all i want it so actually SEE this f*ing grub menu :D
[05:02] <hockyhair> anyone know if you can toggle trans in Eterm with keybindings
[05:02] <bsdfox> efrancolaporte, exchange it for a good one
[05:03] <efrancolaporte> is there anything else I could try
[05:03] <xUnaBx> jtholmes : my problem is not having any display in grub itself, once the boot has been chosen, it's working fine
[05:03] <Steven_M> hi all
[05:03] <efrancolaporte> could I try flashing my BIOS to see if it makes a difference
[05:03] <wsmoak> hmmm... new ubuntu server install, I'm reading serverguide.pdf.  Things seem not quite right:  /bin/sh: sudo: not found  . No 'whoami' or 'find' either.
[05:04] <efrancolaporte> because the BIOS is an emachines one and im wondering if the emachines BIOS rejects non emachines PSU, MBs, etc
[05:04] <jtholmes> xUnaBx: but grub menu is not displaying correct
[05:04] <xUnaBx> jtholmes : exactly
[05:05] <Steven_M> does anyone here know much about bash aliases?
[05:05] <xUnaBx> jtholmes: and the  LCD is probably to blame as it's not accepting high refresh rates
[05:05] <talisein> wasabi: preliminary googling tells me you might have to wait for kernel 2.6.18
[05:05] <wsmoak> anything I can check before I reboot and/or reinstall?
[05:05] <wasabi> talisein: Suck.
[05:05] <talisein> wasabi: yeah.
[05:05] <deadly_venom> Anyone have netani.inf ?
[05:05] <wasabi> Trying a trick with libata.
[05:06] <Groovebot> tengo un problema con el distro ubuntu
[05:06] <fluxinator> !es
[05:06] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:06] <jtholmes> xUnaBx: yes
[05:06] <xUnaBx> jtholmes: grub is doing some basic vbeprobe to get the screen specs, and i bet my screen is not answering right. But the option "vbeprobe" is just a test, not a setting
[05:06] <efrancolaporte> anywya you have no advice on setting up a new PSU eh
[05:06] <seshomaru123> hi , i had a dual boot with xp , i made xp into an ext partition with qtparted but now i cant mount it , it says "device is not removeable" what can i do?
[05:06] <efrancolaporte> maybe im just a n00b and im forgetting something?
[05:06] <hockyhair> if anyone knows how to get identd working with ubuntu or how to toggle transparency in Eterm with a keybind i wanna learn how.
[05:06] <talisein> efrancolaporte: I think we think you have a bad PSU
[05:06] <jtholmes> xUnaBx: where did you get the vbeprobe setting info from
[05:07] <bsdfox> efrancolaporte, it's a dead PSU if it makes sound for a second then nothing until you unplug it for a bit
[05:07] <kitche> hockyhair: is the identd daemon started?
[05:07] <wsmoak> Steven_M: some.  ask :)
[05:07] <xUnaBx> jtholmes : i've read that the dev version of grub2 has the "setvbe" option, but i'm terrifed at the idea of putting an unstable grub on this machine
[05:07] <Groovebot> hay nadie aqu que hablar espa?ol?
[05:07] <bsdfox> efrancolaporte, I bet the caps are bad
[05:07] <xUnaBx> jtholmes : from the grub manual
[05:07] <talisein> efrancolaporte: I'd just put everything aside until tomorrow morning, try one more time, and then go to the store
[05:07] <fluxinator> groovebot Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:07] <efrancolaporte> why does this store sells me DOA PSUS EVERY FUCKING TIME
[05:07] <Groovebot> gracias, fluxinator
[05:08] <efrancolaporte> it's the SECOND PSU i buy from this store and the SECOND that is DOA<
[05:08] <talisein> efrancolaporte: take your emachines in and install right there ;)
[05:08] <seamus7> Is anyone free to help me do an update?
[05:08] <Cipher> Hey all, I installed XFCE and it seems to have my gnome wallpaper and when i right click the gnome properties :S! the XFCE isnt there so i have to reboot pc again and use gnome session
[05:08] <fluxinator> de nada Groovebot
[05:08] <Cipher> any idea why?
[05:08] <efrancolaporte> yeah
[05:08] <efrancolaporte> i think ill do that
[05:08] <blake__> anyone tried mounting reiser4 on ubuntu?
[05:08] <talisein> its kind of a small store right, not huge like Fry's?
[05:08] <jtholmes> xUnaBx: well grub is only in the 512 byte  MBR area and should be easily overwritten using the Live CD if you encounter problems
[05:08] <efrancolaporte> do you think I need to bring my monitor or keyboard
[05:08] <talisein> no
[05:08] <talisein> just power on smoke test
[05:08] <efrancolaporte> k
[05:08] <efrancolaporte> i am SO gonna go back
[05:09] <jtholmes> xUnaBx: rewritten tha is if you hose things  with the  setvbe
[05:09] <Cipher> Does anyone here use XFCE or ever used it??
[05:09] <efrancolaporte> anyway thx for your help
[05:09] <talisein> personally I'd stay away from fanless PSUs. Its good to keep everything cool :)
[05:09] <|chris3|> sethk: I found the root cause of my issue....  BIOS can not boot a drive over 137 GB
[05:09] <talisein> yw, gl
[05:10] <talisein> Anyone here a RAID guru?? =(
[05:10] <|chris3|> sethk: so now I am having to install windows to run the BIOS upgrade crap
[05:10] <blake__> what is the file system type for reiser4 when mounting?
[05:10] <talisein> |chris3|: the bios upgrade isn't a burn-to-cd thing? =(
[05:10] <wastrel> hey dudes
[05:11] <talisein> blake__: reiser4 isn't supported on stock ubuntu I don't think. But the type would be reiser4 if you've already taken care of that.
[05:11] <|chris3|> talisein: nope  first I have to run an exe to find out what my mother board is no labels on the mother board
[05:11] <fluxinator> hello wastrel
[05:11] <talisein> |chris3|: wow, ouch.
[05:11] <|chris3|> talisein: yep  good thing I have a junk 20 gb hard drive I can install windows to
[05:12] <talisein> I created a Software Raid via mdadm. It worked fine, but when I rebooted, /dev/md0 wasn't there any more. What did I forget? :)
[05:12] <cuijinli> I want to open console shell on the menu which comes from the click of the right button of the mouce.which software should be installed?
[05:12] <seamus7> Hi y'all. Quick question: I'm using Dapper and would like to update to a new webcam driver package (GSPCAV1) here -  http://mxhaard.free.fr/download.html    ....  I've downloaded the archive but as a newbie I'm not sure what I need to do to make the update. Can anyone help?
[05:13] <DigitalNinja> |chris3| Why do you need to install windows?
[05:13] <talisein> hmm, I want to do that too. I just never realized it., cuijinli  ;)
[05:13] <blake__> talisein i was able to format a drive as reiser4 with cfdisk but i cant mount it
[05:13] <talisein> blake__: aptitude install reiser4progs
[05:13] <gerryxiao> hello
[05:14] <gerryxiao> anyone familiar tap/bridge on qemu?
[05:14] <Dr_willis> cfdisk formats?
[05:14] <|chris3|> digitalninja: because I have an exe I found on the net that will tell you the type of motherboard you have so that I can then find a bios update only runs on windows and I think wine will not be happy with it
[05:14] <Dr_willis> blake__,  you sure it got formated? and not just fdisk'ed
[05:14] <blake__> talisein will do, but im using synaptic
[05:14] <talisein> whatever ;).
[05:14] <|chris3|> plus when I am messing with a bios I don't want to do anything else that might make my computer a toaster
[05:15] <talisein> blake__: I really don't think ubuntu supports it in the kernel though
[05:15] <blake__> Dr_willis yes, i was able to use mkfs for reiser4 and all
[05:15] <talisein> blake__: I just finished reading the launchpad entry for Reiser4 in Edgy... and it said delayed to Edgy+1
[05:15] <chascon> hello world
[05:16] <waleed> hello
[05:16] <gerryxiao> how to setup qemu on ubuntu?
[05:16] <ChocoCid> prin("Hello World")
[05:16] <kitche> !qemu
[05:16] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[05:16] <abdu0066> garbbage
[05:16] <abdu0066> ping
[05:16] <Parisi> Hmm, my driver is having a hard time reading and burning dvd discs, but seems to work fine with cd's, any suggestions?
[05:16] <Parisi> drive*
[05:17] <ChocoCid> hrm
[05:17] <ChocoCid> i really should set up a virtualizer
[05:17] <waleed> how can i find driver for my pc
[05:17] <abdu0066> dude what is up
[05:17] <ChocoCid> i just don't know where the heck i put my winxp deic :\
[05:17] <talisein> Parisi: that may just be a byproduct of the state of DVD writing in linux >.>..... it should be able to read fine though
[05:17] <gerryxiao> ubotu, that's not work for me
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about that's not work for me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <ChocoCid> heh
[05:18] <gerryxiao> hmm
[05:18] <gerryxiao> thx
[05:18] <chascon> does the current release of ubuntu support apple pcs?
[05:18] <Parisi> talisein,  It not specific to linux, its the dvd drive itself :(
[05:18] <wastrel> seamus7:  what file did you download?
[05:18] <Parisi> It kinda just gradualy got worse.
[05:18] <talisein> chascon: yup. I think so.
[05:18] <kitche> gerryxiao: you have to install qemu have you done that already?
[05:18] <seamus7> the gspcav1 file for the more current kernel
[05:19] <ghostshadow189> hi all , i'm installing mpg123 but i've this error when i run ./configure : "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH"
[05:19] <talisein> Parisi: Hmm. What are the symptoms?
[05:19] <chascon> thanks talisein
[05:19] <gerryxiao> kitche , i have instlled qemu and kqemu , it works fine but net stuff
[05:19] <talisein> chascon: you need to identify if your Mac has a Power PC (PPC) chip or an Intel chip
[05:19] <ChocoCid> !autoscroll
[05:19] <ubotu> if you want to enable middle-click-drag-scrolling for konqueror: open konqueror -> settings -> configure konqueror -> uncheck "middle click opens selected web address." Firefox: open firefox. in the address field type 'about:config' and hit enter. Now in the Filter box, type 'autoscroll', rightclick on general.autoScroll -> Toggle. The line should read 'general.autoScroll  user set boolean true'. Enjoy.
[05:19] <hockyhair> ghostshadow189: run sudo apt-get install gcc
[05:19] <Parisi> talisein, Make wierd noises, and doesnt relly read the disc properly.
[05:19] <talisein> chascon: then download the install disc for that chip
[05:19] <kitche> so what are you having trouble with in general?
[05:19] <kitche> gerryxiao
[05:20] <tonyyarusso> Can I set up different monitors to have my "workspaces"?
[05:20] <seamus7> wastrel: the gspcav1 archive since it's for a more current kernel up from 2.6l11  (mine is 2.6.15)
[05:20] <chascon> k
[05:20] <blake__> Dr_willis, talisein im just going to go back to reiserfs
[05:20] <gerryxiao> kitche, tun/bridge net stuff not worked for me
[05:20] <ChocoCid> ooh, cool
[05:20] <ChocoCid> !counter
[05:20] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Counter is where Ubuntu (based) systems can go to get their machine counted. Get counted at http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net
[05:20] <talisein> blake__: good move for now ;)
[05:20] <jtholmes> xUnaBx: i read up on grub2 a little if you have a spare disk try  it there
[05:20] <wastrel> seamus7:  so you extract the archive, and read the README and INSTALL files
[05:20] <talisein> blake__:  I wanted to try reiser4 too, but it just (still!) isn't time yet
[05:21] <xUnaBx> jtholmes : i'll give it  a try
[05:21] <talisein> Parisi: bad noises are bad.
[05:21] <kitche> gerryxiao: hmm I don't know how to get that working with qemnu
[05:21] <i3d> this apt-index-watch is taking constantly 50%+ cpu time, what is it?
[05:21] <talisein> Parisi: it can't be too old though right?
[05:21] <xUnaBx> jtholmes : it's just that i'm about to break something that *works*, but just because i'm too stubborn to let it go :D
[05:21] <gerryxiao> kitche, i want to setup  three clients on my box, and form a lan
[05:22] <talisein> i3d: I think it makes apt-cache and all sort of other listings of what packages you can install... indexed.
[05:22] <gerryxiao> any net_bridge channel s here?
[05:22] <wastrel> seamus7:  ah i see he didn't provide README or INSTALL files
[05:22] <seamus7> wastrel: I extracted the archive into my home folder but it doesn't have a readme or an install
[05:22] <seamus7> wastrel: yeah
[05:22] <jtholmes> xUnaBx: better than that take a small usb stick and install grub2 there and if your bios allows booting from the stick you can test it there and not hose up anything
[05:22] <Journeyman> what file configures the network at boot?
[05:22] <i3d> talisein: cause its taking my cpu away, is it ok to remove it?
[05:22] <mboso> what is the planel container that holds icons of running applications that when you click the X are hidden...
[05:22] <wastrel> seamus7:  your clue is the Makefile   open a terminal and cd into the directory and type    make
[05:22] <xUnaBx> jtholmes : good idea, i didnt think of it
[05:23] <Journeyman> because when I boot my network doesnt work, but when I do /etc/init.d/network restart
[05:23] <Journeyman> it works fine
[05:23] <Parisi> talisein, Sounds like a laser problem, not too old its a Samsung dvdrw
[05:23] <i3d> I don't think I need it to keep my apt working
[05:23] <jtholmes> xUnaBx: i keep one with me all the time and i can boot just about any system
[05:23] <talisein> i3d: yeah you can probably kill it
[05:23] <seamus7> wastrel: ahhh okay .... is that similar to a configuration process or is it a compiling process?
[05:23] <talisein> i3d: you might just start another indexing program though ;)
[05:23] <gerryxiao> anyone familiar with net_bridge stuff?
[05:24] <talisein> i3d: take a gander at /etc/crond.weekly, crond.daily, monthly, etc and you can see what regularly runs
[05:24] <Parisi> Hey Vista RC2 is out.
[05:24] <wastrel> seamus7:  make   is typically for compiling.   you'll need kernel source and may need sudo make instead of just make.  it might be wise to google for install instructions for this software.
[05:24] <Parisi> I am going to raise my eyebrows on that one.
[05:24] <talisein> gerryxiao: only the basic fundamentals. Like, I know what a bridge does. ;)
[05:24] <mboso> what is the name of the gnome planel container that holds icons of running applications that when you click the X are hidden...?
[05:24] <xUnaBx> jtholmes : i've got this 512Mbytes lying somewhere... do you know where i can find an iso that would fit in?
[05:25] <i3d> talisein: ok
[05:25] <gerryxiao> talisein, how  to addif to bridge ,and let it work?
[05:25] <seamus7> wastrel: oh okay .... what do you mean by kernel source?
[05:26] <talisein> gerryxiao: http://linux-net.osdl.org/index.php/Bridge#Creating_a_bridge_device
[05:26] <gerryxiao> talisein,should i need iptables settings?
[05:26] <gerryxiao> talisein, i have read it , but not work
[05:26] <talisein> oh. Then I can't help, sorry =(
[05:26] <Journeyman> why does the website say you need 192MB to work, when it runs just fine on 128MBs
[05:26] <odyssevs> gerryxiao, what're you trying to do?
[05:26] <wastrel> seamus7:  this is a kernel module and will need kernel headers at least in order to compile - because the software needs to interface with the kernel, the kernel header code files need to be availble when you compile the driver.
[05:27] <odyssevs> Journeyman, bootup screen says 128. I've never been able to work it on less.
[05:27] <talisein> gerryxiao: I assume though you have installed the bridge-utils package
[05:27] <gerryxiao> odyssevs, i want form three qemu clients lan
[05:27] <gerryxiao> talisein: sure
[05:27] <jtholmes> xUnaBx: you dont need an iso  let me give you the link all you need is an fs  and install grub and it is used only for booting not linux let me look for the link
[05:27] <Journeyman> under the download it says 196 *shurg*
[05:27] <Journeyman> anyhow what files configure the network at boot?
[05:28] <wastrel> !kernel-source
[05:28] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[05:28] <chris86wm> when is edgy due out?
[05:28] <xUnaBx> jtholmes : that's great, thx
[05:28] <talisein> gerryxiao: a lot of the Xen HOWTOs cover bridges too, so you might try there
[05:28] <jpiccolo_> i have a question for you guys, how can i connect to another pcs xserver from a different pc that only has cli
[05:28] <talisein> jpiccolo_: ssh
[05:28] <gerryxiao> talisein: thx, i 'll check it
[05:28] <talisein> jpiccolo_: err, oh, xserver
[05:28] <hockyhair> anyone know how to enable ascii charecters in a console, i am using a font that supports them
[05:28] <seamus7> wastrel, ubotu: oh I didn't realize .... okay I'll need to read up on all of that
[05:28] <jpiccolo_> yeah
[05:29] <gerryxiao> odyssevs, r u familiar with qemu?
[05:29] <jpiccolo_> i want to be able to switch song from amarok while gaming
[05:29] <chris86wm> anyone know the edgy release date?
[05:29] <odyssevs> gerryxiao, nope, was just reading about it.
[05:29] <talisein> I created a Software Raid via mdadm. It worked fine, but when I rebooted, /dev/md0 wasn't there any more. What did I forget? :)
[05:29] <dgags> jpiccolo_: vnc
[05:29] <jpiccolo_> the other pc dosent have x
[05:30] <odyssevs> gerryxiao, http://compsoc.dur.ac.uk/~djw/qemu.html appears to be relevant.
[05:30] <talisein> jpiccolo_: does it have a video card?
[05:30] <gerryxiao> odyssevs,  qemu use tap dev stuff and net-bridge to establish connection between host and client
[05:30] <dgags> jpiccolo_: i don't get it then. What is the other box again?
[05:31] <jpiccolo_> other other box is just a web server/samba/ftp but i dont have x installed because it dosent need it
[05:31] <jtholmes> xUnaBx: i dont have orig url i just copied the page,  but go to knoppix.net  and search for  'knoppix usb'   the info is in the  knoppix wiki
[05:31] <jpiccolo_> i just have a monitor hooked up to run commands
[05:31] <dgags> jpiccolo_: ok, i'm with you so far
[05:32] <ghostshadow189> hi all , i'm installing mpg123 but i've this error when i run ./configure : "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[05:32] <jpiccolo_> ok so i want to game on my main pc, and have amarok playing songs, and use the other pc to switch a song if i want to with out getting out of the game
[05:32] <Newbie> Hi there people
[05:32] <wickedpuppy> ghostshadow189, have you searched in synaptic ?
[05:32] <Newbie> i need help
[05:32] <hockyhair> !mame
[05:32] <unfknblvbl> hi there Newbie
[05:32] <ghostshadow189> search for what ?
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mame - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <jpiccolo_> i can ssh in but it says it cant connect to the xserver to switch a song
[05:33] <dgags> jpiccolo_: does each one have a keyboard/monitor?
[05:33] <Newbie> ok i have a problem
[05:33] <talisein> ghostshadow189: install gcc. But you should just "aptitude install mpg123" or mpg321
[05:33] <Newbie> ok welll ill just ask the questions
[05:33] <wickedpuppy> ghostshadow189, its in the repos .. no need to compile
[05:33] <ghostshadow189> i installed gcc
[05:33] <jpiccolo_> yes, but the box that i want to use to switch songs doesnt have x installed
[05:33] <Newbie> im a newbie
[05:33] <Newbie> and i wanna use linux
[05:33] <hockyhair> advance mame or xmame?
[05:33] <wickedpuppy> ghostshadow189, sudo apt-get install mpg123
[05:33] <dgags> jpiccolo_: hmm...
[05:33] <Newbie> so i would like to ask whats a good linux to start off with
[05:33] <wickedpuppy> Newbie, then get it and burn it and live it ...
[05:33] <odyssevs> ghostghost, apt-get install libc6-dev g++ gcc
[05:33] <gerryxiao> odyssevs, thx ,your link seems much help for me
[05:34] <SuperMiguel> newbie
[05:34] <wickedpuppy> Newbie, pls do not ask this here ...
[05:34] <seamus7> Wastrel, ubotu: do you know if Edgy Eft will incorporate this new webcam drivers update ... I'm thinking I'm going to not fool with the kernel .... that's a little beyond me at this point.
[05:34] <talisein> Newbie: Well, we would recommend Ubuntu :)
[05:34] <Newbie> alot of people say that ubuntu would be the best to start
[05:34] <Journeyman> you joined ubuntu and asked that question?
[05:34] <unfknblvbl> simplyMEPIS for brand spanking new linux beginners
[05:34] <jpiccolo_> yeah i tired to use the xterm on the end of the ssh but it says it cant open display
[05:34] <Journeyman> there IS such a thing as a stupid question
[05:34] <ryepup> be nice
[05:34] <Newbie> yeh im just wondering if
[05:34] <jpiccolo_> Newbie, get gentoo
[05:34] <dgags> jpiccolo_: does amarok have a command line variant, and not a graphical one? that would be the only way tyo control it to my knowledge
[05:34] <SuperMiguel> let him talk
[05:34] <Newbie> ubuntu would be best to start off with
[05:34] <wickedpuppy> Newbie, pls ask in #gentoo #slaskware , #fedora .. then come back here and ask again pls
[05:34] <Journeyman> Newbie: do you want a *nix system to hold your hand and do everything
[05:34] <conner> Newbie, if lots of people say that, then you should do what lots of people say.
[05:34] <Newbie> lol
[05:34] <Journeyman> or do you want to learn how to really use it
[05:35] <jpiccolo_> yeah i can from command line on the pc that has amarok running on it
[05:35] <SuperMiguel> newbie have you check www.distrowatch.com?
[05:35] <Journeyman> centOS isnt a bad distro
[05:35] <Newbie> i wanna learn how to really use linux
[05:35] <wickedpuppy> conner, lots of people say doesn't mean its true ....
[05:35] <Newbie> so im right now downloading
[05:35] <Newbie> ubuntu
[05:35] <SuperMiguel> start with ubuntu
[05:35] <jpiccolo_> i will try to start it from the other pc on the command line and see how that goes
[05:35] <Journeyman> you want it for desktop or server use?
[05:35] <SuperMiguel> and then if you want
[05:35] <wickedpuppy> conner, lots of people use windows .. for example ...
[05:35] <ghostshadow189> wickedpuppy : there's no mpg123
[05:35] <SuperMiguel> try debian
[05:35] <Journeyman> you may also want to look into the BSDs
[05:35] <Newbie> im using it for desktop use
[05:35] <talisein> Newbie: I would download LiveCDs for a few distros and try them all before installing.
[05:35] <wickedpuppy> ghostshadow189, have you added universe and multiverse ?
[05:36] <conner> wickedpuppy, that was "humour".
[05:36] <dgags> jpiccolo_: then run screen and run amarok inside it. Detach fromt he terminal, and then you can ssh in, re-attach to the terminal and control it, and then detach.
[05:36] <SuperMiguel> newbie are you going to still using windows?
[05:36] <Journeyman> personally I perfer BSD over linux (I use ubuntu for a desktop because I am lazy)
[05:36] <wastrel> seamus7:  i have no idea what's in edgy :]   might ask on #ubuntu+1
[05:36] <wickedpuppy> conner, humour ends with :P or :) LOL
[05:36] <odyssevs> Debian isn't a good choice for this one, SuperMiguel. He'll be chewing his nails off wondering what all the install options are.
[05:36] <Newbie> only if i need to get stuff of it
[05:36] <rey> um hi everyone i need some help getting a driver for a ac 97 internal modem for amd
[05:36] <Newbie> i will use windows
[05:36] <Newbie> but im going to stop
[05:36] <SuperMiguel> i said start with ubuntu and then if you want change to debian
[05:36] <Newbie> using windows and learn linux
[05:36] <conner> wickedpuppy, only if you need to convey that to people who would not otherwise understand.
[05:36] <Newbie> from scratch
[05:36] <seamus7> wastrel: oh right ok.
[05:37] <jpiccolo_> yeah i just tried to start amarok from the remote pc and it says that it cant connect to the xserver
[05:37] <odyssevs> Any Debian is going out with the Indians.
[05:37] <SuperMiguel> seamus7: do you need help with adgy?
[05:37] <SuperMiguel> newbie are you going to install both
[05:37] <SuperMiguel> on the same hard drive?
[05:37] <odyssevs> Newbie, you perhaps must first learn how to learn.
[05:37] <Newbie> Oh and can someone explain to me , what the file format tar.zz something like that is ?
[05:37] <ghostshadow189> wickedpuppy : how can i add them
[05:37] <jpiccolo_> Newbie, with some of the live cds you can run linux inside of windows to try it out
[05:37] <dgags> jpiccolo_: then amarok cannot be run as a command line program, it needs a gui. I'd look for something else that can run from cmd line and do as above.
[05:37] <Journeyman> Newbie: opensuse, centOS, mandrivia, fedora core, ubuntu are all easy to use linux distros with gui installs
[05:37] <Cipher> Anyone use XFCE becuase im having a little problem with it at the moment???
[05:37] <wickedpuppy> !repos > ghostshadow189
[05:38] <jpiccolo_> dgags, yeah pitty
[05:38] <talisein> Newbie: its a *NIX format, although there shoudl be utilities for windows that will uncompress it
[05:38] <Journeyman> Newbie: then there is freebsie, and PCBSD for some easy to use BSDs
[05:38] <SuperMiguel> newbie on ubuntu we dont use that kind of file that much but it is similar as rar on windows
[05:38] <dgags> jpiccolo_: *shrug*
[05:38] <Newbie> yeh but for real learning , Gnome distros are best ive heard
[05:38] <Newbie> ok
[05:38] <wickedpuppy> LOL
[05:38] <jpiccolo_> i like kde better
[05:38] <unfknblvbl> grab a liveCD and play around
[05:38] <Newbie> Sorry that im such a newbie at all of this
[05:38] <MrMazda> dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.17...... (--install): corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive. :~(
[05:38] <SuperMiguel> gnome sucks xD
[05:38] <Journeyman> i like fluxbox :)
[05:38] <wickedpuppy> here goes flamewar ...
[05:39] <unfknblvbl> gnome >> KDE ^^
[05:39] <SuperMiguel> KDE rocks
[05:39] <Newbie> but what can i say to learn i just have to ask for info
[05:39] <Journeyman> fluxbox > * :P
[05:39] <Normal> I've downloaded an Edgy iso with d4x, but when I open the folder, it isn't an iso, though the download's complete. Am I missing a step?
[05:39] <talisein> Personally, there is no real "learning" distro. Everything has its quirks. You just learn to handle quirks, whatever they are.
[05:39] <SuperMiguel> newbie
[05:39] <Newbie> yo
[05:39] <SuperMiguel> newbie there is guide that will help you alot
[05:39] <SuperMiguel> umm the page is :A
[05:39] <Newbie> yeh
[05:39] <mister_roboto> Newbie: tar.gz is a tar file that has been gzipped.
[05:39] <dgags> Newbie: normally when you see a file with an extension of tar.z it denotes a tar file that was compressed.
[05:39] <jpiccolo_> is there a  way that i can have a xserver installed but not boot to it automatically?
[05:39] <SuperMiguel> www.ubuntuguide.com
[05:39] <Newbie> ok
[05:40] <Newbie> that explains alot
[05:40] <Journeyman> jpiccolo_: yes
[05:40] <SuperMiguel> i know hehe
[05:40] <SuperMiguel> wait
[05:40] <SuperMiguel> www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:40] <dgags> jpiccolo_: sure
[05:40] <odyssevs> Newbie, that has nothing to do with learning. If you're to learn Linux from scratch, you must acquaint yourself with the low level stuff and move up from there. That's not a trivial pursuit. If you're only wanting to poke around, use Ubuntu. And do search for some reading material.
[05:40] <wickedpuppy> Newbie, download ... install ... and screw up.. and come back ... i am very close to ask you to change nick or leave channel... seems most people here are attracted to talking to someone with nick "newbie" ...
[05:40] <Newbie> ok
[05:40] <talisein> .tar means that there are many files inside. .gz means that it has been compressed.
[05:40] <jpiccolo_> do i have to edit grub for that?
[05:41] <Newbie> WELL SORRY
[05:41] <Newbie> ill change my nick
[05:41] <malignant> I'm trying to install drivers for Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG.  I used ndiswrapper to install the driver.  When I check the drivers installed, ndiswrapper displays: w39n51  invalid driver! ???
[05:41] <dgags> jpiccolo_:nah, wrong place. You want to look for gdm
[05:41] <SuperMiguel> wickedpuppy: whats wrong with his nick
[05:41] <Newbie> to something less demoting
[05:41] <Newbie> OK
[05:41] <Shadow_mil> anyone here have some type of voice recognition setup?
[05:41] <wickedpuppy> SuperMiguel, people asking for help and guess who are we all talking to ?
[05:41] <talisein> Newbie: I guess none of us have ever been newbies. O.o
[05:41] <Newbie> first of all i came to this channel to ask where i could get the info i need to get started to learn how to use linux
[05:41] <SuperMiguel> he is a newbie any problem with that
[05:41] <Newbie> and second i did use linux before
[05:41] <Newbie> and it was called mandrake
[05:42] <Newbie> well
[05:42] <SuperMiguel> did you like it?
[05:42] <Newbie> everyone was a newb at one stage
[05:42] <Newbie> and then pro the next
[05:42] <wickedpuppy> SuperMiguel, sigh ... pls ... that was not my point ..
[05:42] <Newbie> But anyways back to my point could anyone give me some links
[05:42] <rey> anyone here can help me with a driver problem?
[05:42] <SuperMiguel> Newbie: there is a new version of mandrake call mandriva
[05:42] <wickedpuppy> look at the posts above .. there are other people asking for help and all i see was everyone talking to newebie
[05:42] <Newbie> that would help me to learn linux
[05:42] <SuperMiguel> that is pretty good
[05:42] <odyssevs> malignant, which driver are you using?
[05:42] <Newbie> and use it as my windows replacement
[05:42] <SuperMiguel> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper thats the best site
[05:42] <talisein> rey: which driver?
[05:43] <SuperMiguel> it will teach you alot of stuff
[05:43] <malignant> odyssevs: w39n51.inf I tried NETw39x5.inf as well, but they both don't work
[05:43] <Newbie> ok
[05:43] <SuperMiguel> wickedpuppy: have you tried edgy?
[05:43] <malignant> odyssevs: I got the drivers from Dell
[05:43] <Newbie> well ive got 2 sites so far
[05:43] <odyssevs> malignant and I presume the respective xxxxxx.sys file is present in the same directory?
[05:43] <Newbie> thnxz for the help
[05:43] <Newbie> im off
[05:43] <wickedpuppy> SuperMiguel, what has that got to do with anything ?
[05:43] <Newbie> and ill change my nick to something els
[05:43] <SuperMiguel> just making you talk
[05:43] <Newbie> so other people will get same share of help
[05:44] <wickedpuppy> SuperMiguel, ??
[05:44] <SuperMiguel> :)
[05:44] <odyssevs> Newbie, I hate people who respect their executioners.
[05:44] <SuperMiguel> me too
[05:44] <SuperMiguel> dont **** change your nick
[05:44] <malignant> odyssevs,ve I guess that is the problem. I didn't have the .sys file
[05:44] <talisein> anyways, can anyone help ME? ;) I need someone who's set up a RAID before.
[05:45] <odyssevs> malignant, http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/
[05:45] <malignant> odyssevs: thanks
[05:45] <Elmore>  DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[05:45] <wastrel> classy
[05:45] <talisein> nice.
[05:46] <odyssevs> talisein, standby.
[05:46] <dgags> that was odd.
[05:46] <talisein> odyssevs: sweet :)
[05:46] <dgags> the result was not :)
[05:46] <SuperMiguel> there is any hard drive tester?
[05:46] <talisein> I created a Software Raid via mdadm. It worked fine, but when I rebooted, /dev/md0 wasn't there any more. What did I forget? :)
[05:46] <SuperMiguel> that will tell me if my hard drive have some damaged crusters?
[05:46] <talisein> SuperMiguel: badblocks
[05:46] <sethk> talisein, the problem is not clear to me.
[05:47] <dgags> talisein: did you just forget to put it in /etc/fstab?
[05:47] <talisein> I put it in /fstab, but the /dev/md0 just isn't created
[05:47] <sethk> SuperMiguel, you could use the S.M.A.R.T. support, if your drive(s) support that option
[05:47] <dgags> talisein: have you tried just mounting it?
[05:47] <talisein> yes
[05:47] <talisein> the device isn't there. ;)
[05:47] <dgags> talisein: oh...
[05:47] <odyssevs> talisein, http://stromberg.dnsalias.org/~strombrg/Linux-software-RAID.html
[05:47] <SuperMiguel> i dont know if it does
[05:48] <talisein> oh neat. thanks odyssevs, didn't find that one
[05:48] <dgags> superMiguel: most hd manufacturers have tools to test their drives, go to the manu web site
[05:48] <ferger> what up, knix
[05:49] <odyssevs> talisein: Google's first page for `Software Raid via mdadm  /dev/md0 +reboot` -- let me know whether it fixes your problem.
[05:49] <talisein> hah. here I was thinking "Software Raid mdadm howto" would help. ;)
[05:50] <ferger> i need some qt libs, i searched synaptic and apt-get and couldnt find anyones i needed
[05:50] <Ademan> Does sodipodi have any features inkscape doesnt?
[05:50] <SuperMiguel> my one is a laptop fujitsu hard drive
[05:50] <odyssevs> If we all read every how-to for every minor problem we'd be treating Linux as a religious institution.
[05:50] <talisein> I thought we do!
[05:50] <ArrenLex> Linux is life.
[05:51] <dgags> superMiguel: then go to the laptop manufacturers website
[05:51] <SuperMiguel> found it
[05:51] <unfknblvbl> in that case i need to reboot life
[05:51] <SuperMiguel> thanks
[05:51] <SuperMiguel> A:
[05:51] <SuperMiguel> i windows base ^^ :(
[05:51] <wastrel> what's mdam?
[05:51] <ArrenLex> Who are all these people we are banning? o_o
[05:51] <littlerxa> :o
[05:51] <littlerxa> hi everybody
[05:51] <micahcowan> Is there a prefab initscript for svnserve, or am I meant to roll my own?
[05:52] <littlerxa> somebody speak spanish ?
[05:52] <SuperMiguel> yo hablo
[05:52] <nalioth> !es
[05:52] <SuperMiguel> necesitas algo?
[05:52] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:52] <talisein> wastrel: mdadm is the software tool that manages Linux Software RAIDs -- such as when you mirror 2 harddisks
[05:52] <littlerxa> ahh
[05:52] <littlerxa> pues preguntaba
[05:53] <littlerxa> iba a preguntar
[05:53] <odyssevs> ferger, quite a few results for apt-cache search qt
[05:53] <littlerxa> si alguien ha probado la version 6.10 en amd
[05:53] <SuperMiguel> que hibas a preguntar?
[05:53] <littlerxa> osea ia instalado
[05:53] <ArrenLex> dyssevs: are you looking for the qt library? apt-get install libqt4-mt
[05:53] <SuperMiguel> yo la uso en intel
[05:53] <wastrel> vamos a #ubuntu-es  :] 
[05:53] <nalioth> SuperMiguel: littlerxa: por favor en #ubuntu-es
[05:53] <SuperMiguel> en amd no :)
[05:53] <littlerxa> nalioth I don't know Why says me I'm banned ._.U
[05:53] <ArrenLex> dyssevs: and, I guess, libqt3-mt
[05:54] <odyssevs> ferger, refer to ArrenLex's comments.
[05:54] <SuperMiguel> pero debe de trabajar bien bien por que la semana que viene lo sacan definitivo
[05:54] <nalioth> littlerxa: SuperMiguel por favor, ingles aqui
[05:54] <littlerxa> :o me imagino
[05:54] <littlerxa> sorry
[05:54] <avagant> Guys I have a problem here. Haha
[05:54] <SuperMiguel> nalioth see you learned something :P
[05:54] <littlerxa> SuperMiguel I imagine, because I have that version
[05:54] <SuperMiguel> you love spanish :)
[05:54] <elusive> Oct  7 00:48:41 localhost udevd-event[6499] : rename_net_if: error changing net interface name: Invalid argument
[05:54] <littlerxa> in cd
[05:54] <dgags> avagant: don't we all...
[05:54] <littlerxa> :D
[05:54] <elusive> how can I solve it?
[05:54] <littlerxa> hahahaha xD
[05:54] <SuperMiguel> littlerxa: de donde eres?
[05:54] <odyssevs> avagant, serious people are more likely to get what they want.
[05:55] <littlerxa> Durango, Mxico, u ?
[05:55] <avagant> dgags I don't know what's going on here, but I hope it's just a faux paux?
[05:55] <avagant> paus?
[05:55] <SuperMiguel> Florida, USA
[05:55] <avagant> odyssevs Well it's not really "serious" but it's confusing.
[05:55] <wastrel> pas
[05:55] <nalioth> littlerxa: SuperMiguel #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:55] <dgags> avagant: i have no clue. just personal angst.
[05:55] <bun-bun> take it to #ubuntu-es or a private channel please
[05:55] <littlerxa> wow xD and how is do u speak spanish ?
[05:55] <littlerxa> jajaja =$ I'm sorry nalioth
[05:56] <avagant> I'm getting really annoyed mounting my drive, which I did the first time just fine.
[05:56] <elusive> nevermind
[05:56] <elusive> think the stuff is working now
[05:56] <SuperMiguel> avagant: whats is going on?
[05:56] <avagant> But I got it mounted, and when I click on it it shows the correct amount.
[05:56] <SuperMiguel> avagant: any errors?
[05:56] <odyssevs> One of those elusive problems!
[05:56] <avagant> No errors.
[05:56] <bun-bun> is anyone using a pdf reader other than Evince?
[05:56] <Dr_willis> acrobatreader
[05:56] <SuperMiguel> bun-bun: acrobat
[05:56] <SuperMiguel> ehehe
[05:56] <elusive> odyssevs, was trying to setup ipv6
[05:56] <Dr_willis> !acrobat
[05:56] <avagant> I got my drive mounted, clicked to see amount of space and it said the right amount.
[05:56] <elusive> now it worked
[05:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acrobat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:57] <bun-bun> oss please
[05:57] <Madpilot> bun-bun, Acroread - evil and ugly as it is, it's still the best PDF renderer
[05:57] <SuperMiguel> !acrobarreader
[05:57] <littlerxa> SuperMiguel: wow xD and how is do u speak spanish ?
[05:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acrobarreader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:57] <nalioth> littlerxa: please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:57] <SuperMiguel> littlerxa: por que naci en venezuela
[05:57] <kitche> bun-bun: ghostview there is many pdf readers that are oss
[05:57] <avagant> When I went (in gnome) to disks it shows that I have the amount left on the other hard drive.
[05:57] <littlerxa> nalioth I'm there, tnx ^^
[05:57] <avagant> So basically it showing I have 5gb left on both drives, but when I click on the other drive it shows I still have 8.5
[05:57] <odyssevs> bun-bun, tried gpdf or gv?
[05:57] <wastrel> ggv, kpdf, gpdf
[05:58] <bun-bun> i've used ghostview in the past
[05:58] <bun-bun> gpdf, i haven't tried yet
[05:58] <bun-bun> i'll give that a shot, thanks odyssevs
[05:58] <odyssevs> Acrobat is available on Linux, also.
[05:58] <ChocoCid> not for i386 (at least, out of add/remove programs)
[05:58] <avagant> It doesn't make sense at all, because I do this the same way I did last time.
[05:58] <kitche> well Acrobat isn't odyssevs but reader is
[05:58] <bun-bun> odyssevs~ yes i know-- just wanted to give other oss apps a chance
[05:58] <odyssevs> kitche, sure.
[05:59] <Jaksh_Eet> bah, keep getting a Kernel Panic not syncing  attempting to kill init.
[05:59] <dgags> jaksh_Eet: yowza... bad mojo.
[06:00] <avagant> Guys I had an all mighty trial with all the other ubuntus so I'd advice you research first.
[06:01] <Jaksh_Eet> dgags, yeah, trying to get Ubuntu installed on this stupid laptop.
[06:01] <mneptok> *wriggle*
[06:01] <Coir> If I were to install xfce from an ubuntu server installation what else would I need to install to get X working properly?
[06:01] <avagant> It wasn't ubuntu I had trouble with.
[06:01] <avagant> I didn't like xfce, it was real buggy for me and didn't work right.
[06:01] <ArrenLex> Coir: apt-get install x-window-system-core xserver-xorg
[06:01] <ArrenLex> Coir: That should be all.
[06:01] <odyssevs> What's the quickest way to cure a grub 'missing in action' problem... I've installed ubuntu, parted the disks into 6g 300m and 5g. Installed ubuntu into the 6, 300m for swap, and 5g for ntfs. Then I installed XP into the 5g. Grub seems to have done a runner.
[06:02] <odyssevs> There a quick fix for this?
[06:02] <Coir> What would the command be to start X, Arren?
[06:02] <mneptok> Coir: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg xubuntu-desktop
[06:02] <ArrenLex> Coir: startx
[06:02] <Coir> I don't want X to boot-up everytime I login.
[06:02] <ArrenLex> Coir: or you can install a display manager (apt-get install xdm, for example) so X starts when you boot.
[06:02] <Coir> Only want to use it if I have something that'd be somewhat gritty in CLI
[06:02] <avagant> I've tried 4 different linux versions this past week, I think I'll stick to Ubuntu.
[06:02] <avagant> hahah
[06:03] <ArrenLex> Coir: then install a display manager. xdm is lightweight but pretty bare. kdm and gdm are prettier and more full-featured but depend on lots of libs you might not have.
[06:03] <Coir> It won't start automatically unless I modify some file, aye?
[06:03] <Coir> ah
[06:03] <mneptok> odyssevs: GRUB didn't do a runner. the NT bootloader overwrote it without prompting. that's what it does.
[06:03] <ArrenLex> Coir: if you install a display manager, it will start automatically.
[06:03] <Jaksh_Eet> anyone have any luck installing Ubuntu on an old Compaq Presario laptop?
[06:03] <avagant> But I still don't understand why when I go into disks it shows I only have 5 GB out of 10 left on the one that when I click on the actual drive it shows I have 8.
[06:03] <avagant> Maybe I should reboot. But I don't think that's the problem.
[06:04] <dgags> avagant: o_O
[06:04] <ArrenLex> No really, who are we banning? o__O
[06:04] <odyssevs> mneptok a little bit of skullduggery on MS's part. If I re-run the ubuntu installation do you suppose I'll be sorted?
[06:04] <Coir> ArrenLex: would there be a way to modify GRUB so that I could choose if I wanted to go into CLI or GUI at boot?
[06:04] <personman> i dunno about ubuntu because i'm used to mandrake or mandriva, but usually if you dont want it to boot in to X you can change your default run level
[06:04] <avagant> dgags Does that make sense to you?
[06:04] <mneptok> odyssevs: there are different restore methods. this one is straightforward. - http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Restore_Grub
[06:04] <dgags> avagant: nope.
[06:04] <ChocoCid> odyssevs : when you install windows, the windows bootload overrides grub
[06:04] <avagant> Because I'm in the folder right now, it says "free space 8.3"
[06:04] <ChocoCid> and.. mneptok beat me to it :\
[06:04] <ArrenLex> Coir: I don't know if there's a "real" way to do it. All I know is the recovery mode, which boots to CLI, but you have to become root or else you get booted into GUI. Google it?
[06:04] <avagant> Disks it says 5.8
[06:05] <avagant> Haha
[06:05] <ANTDx1> I have a question
[06:05] <leroy> I just got the packages for Apache, PHP and MySQL... now when I try to create a file with gedit and save it in /var/www it tells me permission denied.  I used to do a chown but I forgot the attributes.... can someone please help?
[06:05] <ANTDx1> is there a way to run ndiswrapper other than on startup as a module?
[06:05] <dgags> avagant: have you opened a terminal and done df -h?
[06:05] <odyssevs> ChocoCid, is there a trick to solving that? A boot command or something when doing XP?
[06:05] <avagant> no i haven't.
[06:05] <Jaksh_Eet> bah!  *pulls hair!* Ubuntu installation passes CD test on one pc, but fails on the laptop I'm trying to install on.
[06:05] <ChocoCid> odyssevs : click mneptok 's link
[06:05] <dgags> avagant: I would trust that
 odyssevs: there are different restore methods. this one is straightforward. - http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Restore_Grub
[06:06] <avagant> It's telling me it's not mounted?
[06:06] <avagant> That's why because it's showing as not mounted.
[06:06] <mneptok> odyssevs: when i said "that's what it does" i meant exactly that. Windows overwrites the MBR. period.
[06:06] <dgags> avagant: magnificent! Mystery solved... Next?
[06:06] <odyssevs> ChocoCid, yep magic.
[06:06] <avagant> But I just mounted it!
[06:07] <Coir> hmm
[06:07] <tk> variant: you around today? :)
[06:07] <dgags> avagant: but you just said it's not mounted... which is it?
[06:07] <avagant> No I just mounted it, but I don't know why it's showing it's not mounted.
[06:08] <dgags> avagant: what are we talking about here? USB drive?
[06:08] <avagant> No I have 2 hd's.
[06:08] <avagant> hda that i'm on.
[06:08] <Coir> Anyone else have any idea if it's possible to choose between GUI and CLI on boot-up in Ubuntu? I've googled a bit and haven't really found anything.
[06:08] <avagant> and hdb that i'm trying to mount.
[06:08] <personman> does ubuntu have run levels?
[06:08] <odyssevs> Is there a universally standard VP/VC value?
[06:08] <dgags> avagant: ok, so you just mounted the second drive, and it does not show up under df? how about mount?
[06:08] <ArrenLex> personman: all Linux oses have runlevels.
[06:09] <mneptok> odyssevs: VPI/VCI?
[06:09] <personman> well with mandriva i'd just set the default ru  level to 3 and it would boot in cli
[06:09] <avagant> it shows up with the same amount of hd left as the hda drive.
[06:09] <personman> and 5 was for GUI if i recall
[06:09] <Coir> How'd you set default run level, personman?
[06:09] <dgags> avagant: well, you can't mount /dev/hdb... youy usually have to specify a partition like /dev/hdb1
[06:09] <ArrenLex> I don't know anything about runlevels, man, only that they exist.
[06:09] <avagant> I swear that's what I'm doing.
[06:09] <odyssevs> mneptok yep.. found a page on ubuntu for doing a speedtouch 330 adsl modem. All I need now is the VP/VC value - ISP is mum.
[06:09] <personman> hmm that is more iffy, i used some admin config tool or another
[06:09] <personman> might have been linuxconf
[06:10] <personman> i know that does it
[06:10] <mneptok> odyssevs: they are not in the least universal.
[06:10] <dgags> avagant: then i would not expect your results to be normal.
[06:10] <leroy> Can someone help me properly set permissions for apache so that I can write to the /var/www/ area :(
[06:10] <Coir> linuxconf = app?
[06:10] <avagant> They were before.
[06:10] <personman> yes
[06:10] <mneptok> odyssevs: sucks. but you have to get that from the ISP (or someone else who knows how they throw packets around).
[06:10] <avagant> I swear they were.
[06:10] <Normal> I've downloaded and Edgy iso with d4x, but although it's 100% complete,  when I open the folder, it's not an iso, it's 3 diff files...What am I missing?
[06:10] <personman> atleast it was heh, been awhile since i been linuxing :)
[06:10] <avagant> I had it mounted and it worked fine.
[06:10] <mneptok> leroy: i can
[06:11] <odyssevs> mneptok, short of hunting down one of their techies, I figured if there were a handful of 'usual suspects' it would be worth trying.
[06:11] <mneptok> leroy: is apache installed, up, and running?
[06:11] <personman> but reading their plans for liscencing vista has me flirting again
[06:11] <dgags> avagant: I believe you, I just do not understand what you're doing, or trying to accomplish.
[06:11] <leroy> yes it is, mneptok
[06:11] <noiesmo> Normal, what s the name of the files
[06:11] <avagant> I'm trying to mount my second hd which has another 10gb.
[06:11] <mneptok> leroy: and what user is apache running as?
[06:11] <dgags> avagant: what's on that second hd?
[06:11] <avagant> Now it's saying something about "Cannot create link /etc/mtab~
[06:11] <leroy> well, how do I check that?
[06:11] <avagant> Nothing, it's just another harddrive.
[06:11] <mneptok> leroy: ps aux | grep httpd
[06:11] <avagant> "Perhaps there is a stale lock file?"
[06:12] <personman> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Run_level
[06:12] <dgags> avagant: what partitions are on it? use fdisk to find out.
[06:12] <Normal> Desktop, Desktop.segments, MyDownloads
[06:12] <noiesmo> leroy, mneptok the apache user is normally www-data and if apache 1.3 or 2 ps ax |grep apache
[06:13] <noiesmo> Normal, thats weird
[06:13] <leroy> it's running as "jdev" (my user)
[06:13] <mneptok> noiesmo: depends on if he built it or installed from synaptic.
[06:13] <personman> oh yeah, that how i used to boot X remotely was the runlevel command i think
[06:13] <personman> hmmm
[06:13] <avagant> Whoa.
[06:13] <mneptok> leroy: ok, how did you install apache?
[06:13] <Net> hello everyone
[06:13] <noiesmo> mneptok, yeah I suppose
[06:14] <leroy> I found a like sudo command that handled apache, php, and mysql :(  I think it screwed something up
[06:14] <Coir> hmm
[06:14] <noiesmo> hmmm gaim does not seem to want to log on to msn anyone else having these problems
[06:14] <leroy> sudo apt-get install apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server
[06:14] <mneptok> leroy: did that command include "apt-get" ?
[06:14] <leroy> precisely
[06:14] <talisein> I got my RAID working, thanks all.
[06:14] <leroy> sorry lol
[06:14] <avagant> I don't think I did it right.
[06:14] <avagant> Or something right.
[06:14] <dgags> talisein: what was the solution?
[06:15] <mneptok> leroy: shouldn't be screwed at all
[06:15] <avagant> I don't know what all that "maybe locked static link" thing is all about.
[06:15] <mneptok> leroy: ps aux | grep apache
[06:15] <leroy> shows a few users
[06:15] <Net> anybody interested in tackling a USB question ?
[06:15] <leroy> root, www-data
[06:15] <avagant> cd
[06:15] <ruokblah> hey guys i run a linux server, but when i sudo shutdown -r now it does not come back up anyone have this happen before?
[06:16] <talisein> dgags: I gave up on trying to recover the RAID I had created before and used the --create command to make it again. It saw that there was already a RAID there. Then the raid was inactive, but I could --assemble it.
[06:16] <leroy> and jdev is also listed mneptok
[06:16] <mneptok> leroy: ok. so then you want "sudo chown -R /var/www/ root:www-data
[06:16] <mneptok> ooops
[06:16] <mneptok> guh
[06:16] <talisein> dgags: After that, I aptitude reinstall mdadm'd, and that generated a new mdadm.conf automatically, and that was it.
[06:16] <dgags> talisein: cool. thanks.
[06:16] <mneptok> leroy: sudo chown -R root:www-data /var/www/
[06:16] <mneptok> :/
[06:16] <talisein> yw
[06:16] <leroy> thanks man, i'll see how that works :)
[06:17] <jojoman02> does anyone know a good linux OS for i can use as a dvd player? (like a media liunux os)
[06:17] <dgags> night all... bed calls.
[06:17] <fluxinator> ruokblah, cant say that I have
[06:17] <wastrel> one of the rare instances when chown -R is appropriate
[06:17] <ruokblah> damn thanks flux
[06:17] <mneptok> leroy: then just pay attention to what privileges the group (www-data) has on files to ensure site security
[06:17] <ALMimoni> hi, howto install LAMP on ubuntu server? (it's one command) :)
[06:18] <mneptok> ruokblah: sounds like ACPI problems, maybe
[06:18] <javix> hola!
[06:18] <Net> hola!
[06:18] <mneptok> ruokblah: try booting the server with acpi=off apm=on and see wha'ppens
[06:18] <leroy> mneptok> it still seems to have permission issue :/
[06:18] <odyssevs> mneptok, how do you get into the exim4 spoon-fed config setup?
[06:18] <javix> hola Net, hablas espaol?
[06:18] <fluxinator> !es
[06:18] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:18] <mneptok> !es > javix
[06:18] <odyssevs> mneptok, you know, when initially installing exim it gives you a bunch of questions to configure it.
[06:18] <ruokblah> mneptok what do i need to throw at it to do that?
[06:18] <javix> ok
[06:19] <avagant> ok, i think i might have to reinstall.
[06:19] <javix> thx
[06:19] <mneptok> ruokblah: those are kernel parameters you pass at boot time
[06:19] <mneptok> odyssevs: i know of what you speak, but haven't futzed with Exim on Ubuntu
[06:19] <odyssevs> off to vim it is
[06:20] <mneptok> odyssevs: *might* be sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4
[06:20] <ruokblah> mneptok: are you saying reinstall? cause i know it worked at first, but i did not notice when it stoped working
[06:20] <avagant> Yah I'm gonna have to reinstall.
[06:20] <odyssevs> tried it without success.
[06:20] <avagant> now it doesn't recognize my devices.
[06:21] <leroy> mnep> any ideas?
[06:21] <mneptok> ruokblah: no, i'm saying reboot the machine and pass those special parameters at boot time. there are lots of resources for learning how to pass those, if you don;t mind a little researching.
[06:21] <ruokblah> i can look up stuff i dont mind that i just wanted to clairify what u where saying, thanks man i will look in to that
[06:21] <mneptok> leroy: sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www/
[06:22] <mneptok> ruokblah: cool. it's not tough, and well documented. you can test to see if its power management tripping you up. check the BIOS, too.
[06:22] <wastrel> ubuntu
[06:23] <leroy> mnep> no dice :(
[06:23] <leroy> maybe try my user?
[06:23] <jon_> hi.  i need to make a launcher that will execute a command as though it were in a certain directory
[06:23] <ruokblah> mneptok: ok thanks man, i know the bios is all clean dont error on anything just boot tho
[06:23] <jon_> how would i go about doing that?
[06:23] <mneptok> leroy: what is the error you're getting?
[06:23] <aum> what's the name of that library which can dynload any other lib?
[06:24] <mneptok> ruokblah: but the BIOS may be doing something funky with power and suspend states. you never know. i vblur the line between detail-oriented and anal-retentive.
[06:24] <tk> heya Aum :)
[06:24] <aum> hi tk
[06:24] <leroy> "Could not save the file /var/www/test.html"
[06:24] <aum> i'm working on server-side javascript
[06:24] <ruokblah> haha
[06:24] <leroy> You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file.  Please, check that you typed the location correctly and try again
[06:25] <mneptok> leroy: what is trying to save a file? a web form?
[06:25] <bug_> what's the ls -l output of /var/www/ ?
[06:25] <leroy> gedit
[06:25] <mneptok> leroy: gedit is not apache
[06:25] <tk> leroy: generally /var/www/ is root, so if you arent sudo'd with the editor you are using, it wont be able to write there
[06:25] <mneptok> leroy: what file are you trying to save
[06:25] <leroy> just one I've created...
[06:26] <mneptok> leroy: that you want to save to the www dirs?
[06:26] <roughtrader> what is the best app to convert divx into DVD?
[06:26] <leroy> yep
[06:26] <bug_> save it somewhere (home or desktop) and then sudo cp it to /var/www/
[06:26] <bug_> roughtrader: i believe that devede may be the best, but i'm not positive
[06:26] <mneptok> leroy: sudo chown -R root:www-data /var/www
[06:26] <tk> aum: I'm trying to get some help with udev, just waiting on the guy that said he'd help me (we kinda havent crossed paths in day or so now :P)
[06:26] <noiesmo> leroy, if you have chowned /var/www to www-data then only that user can save there I suggest to do all work in home folder then as root move it to web docroot and chown to www-data
[06:26] <leroy> should I just change the location to my home directory or somewhere that i have sufficient permission?
[06:27] <mneptok> leroy: then, save that file to your desktop.
[06:27] <roughtrader> thanks, i'll check it out bug
[06:27] <mneptok> leroy: scream when done
[06:27] <aum> tk: is that to do with kubuntu?
[06:27] <aum> udev, i mean
[06:27] <tk> leroy: if you create a ~/public_html dir, your browser should let you surf there from /localhost/~username/.... and you dont have to worry about permissions
[06:28] <tk> aum: its linux/unix in general I believe
[06:28] <bug_> does anyone have a pioneer dvdrw drive? specifically the dvr-[a|1] 09?
[06:28] <aum> ahh, k
[06:28] <tk> udev lets you setup rules for devices to run/rename them etc upon connection
[06:28] <bug_> ah.. the /~username/ thing is probably the best bet
[06:29] <aum> i try to avoid the deeper bits of linux wherever i can, that's why i use ubuntu - it's nice to get devices working in 2-20 minutes instead of 2-20 hours (ie, with debian)
[06:29] <noiesmo> bug_, have a dvr 108
[06:30] <tk> aum: my bluetooth adapter stopped auto-connecting my devices... so I have to do it by hand everytime my laptop powersaves or I unplug the adapter :P
[06:30] <bug_> noiesmo: does it work for you? my a09 *used to work* with 2.6.8, but now i constantly get some kind of buffer underrun error. on top of that, dmesg has a lot of hdg: drive appears to be confused (or something like that) messages
[06:30] <mneptok> aum: at least when you go deeper into Linux it's not as terrifying in the "holy crap! i trust *this* with my data?!" sense as it is getting deeper into Windows. ;)
[06:30] <noiesmo> bug_, all works fine
[06:30] <charlie5> afternoon all
[06:31] <noiesmo> bug_, Linux Kubuntu 2.6.15-26-k7
[06:31] <aum> mneptok, so true
[06:31] <aum> ubuntu is a long stride in the right direction, orders of magnitude less 'gotcha, haha's than debian
[06:31] <noiesmo> bug_, have you set the permission etc thru k3b setup also check that your user is in the burning group or change it to cdrom group and add your user
[06:32] <bug_> noiesmo: Linux Ubuntu 2.6.15-27-686
[06:32] <noiesmo> bug_, have you set the permission etc thru k3b setup also check that your user is in the burning group or change it to cdrom group and add your user
[06:32] <charlie5> i managed to wipe the cmos on an old box last night ... i'm trying to restore it ... i have a AWDFLASH.exe & a 6oxm7e.f4 file from a bios site, and the old box is asking for a system floppy
[06:32] <bug_> noiesmo: i've run cdrecord/growisofs/cdrdao as root and tried k3b and such with the correct permissions
[06:33] <nwbreneman> Hi, if I installed XFCE, is there anything I need to do to switch over to it? Or download some sort of GUI manager, etc.?
[06:33] <charlie5> ... do i need to make a bootable floppy with those two files, and use that ?
[06:33] <bug_> noiesmo: it randomly dies, saying that it's a buffer underrun, even though the buffers were (nearly, at least) full
[06:33] <cherubiel> nwbreneman: you'll get it in your {x|g|k}gm select menu
[06:33] <cherubiel> gm*
[06:33] <bug_> nwbrenenman: log out and then change your session in your login menu
[06:33] <cherubiel> dm*
[06:34] <nwbreneman> Okay, thank you!
[06:34] <bug_> nwbreneman: it will specifically say "Xfce session"
[06:34] <wastrel> charlie5: google can locate a site with boot floppy images
[06:34] <nwbreneman> Awesome. Again, thanks bug_ and chuerbiel. Have a good one.
[06:34] <tk> charlie5: bootdisk.com I believe would be useful :)
[06:34] <charlie5> wastrel: thanks, are they just general boot floppy's or ones for bios resetting ?
[06:35] <tk> charlie5: you juse need a bootable floppy, with the appropriate flash stuff for your bios on it
[06:35] <wastrel> charlie5:  no idea. i'm going to guess it's just a normal boot floppy
[06:35] <charlie5> tk: thanks :)
[06:35] <cherubiel> charlie5: head right to bootdisk.com
[06:35] <tk> charlie5: np :) (had to flash a few things in my time :P)
[06:36] <noiesmo> bug_, have you tried reducing the burn speed and other dvds
[06:36] <charlie5> thanks guys ... i kicked myself for busting the thing in the first place :/
[06:36] <wastrel> it's good experience ;] 
[06:36] <tk> charlie5: atleast you didnt lock a 120gig HD thats now useless :P
[06:36] <JoshIRL> Who wants to helpy me? :)
[06:36] <bug_> noiesmo: i've done this with both cds and dvds (of multiple brands) at all kinds of different speeds. cds will work sometimes, but dvds always fail, even at 1/2x
[06:37] <fluxinator> you know whats less than fun? having no cd rom that works and installing ubuntu via pen drive
[06:37] <wastrel> installing slackware from floppy
[06:37] <wastrel> also no fun
[06:37] <noiesmo> bug_, bugger maybe the drives fault
[06:37] <JoshIRL> I have a HP pavilion a705w, the processor is a 2.93 ghz intel celeron (R) and it wont install ubuntu, why? It gets to the beggining at booting the kernel (right after you click start) and it just kills the pc, and reboots.. helpy?
[06:37] <tk> fluxinator: I would imagine thats faster.... and less hassle than installing win9X from floppy :P (or MS Office for that matter)
[06:37] <fluxinator> Agreed
[06:38] <fluxinator> its just a pain because I had customized ubuntu exactly the way I wanted it
[06:38] <charlie5> tk: give me time ... i'll bust anything, sooner or later :D
[06:38] <tk> before the 500Mhz barrier was broke I had VB 3.0 on floppy for win 3.11 :P
[06:38] <fluxinator> so I ended up remastering the live cd
[06:38] <fluxinator> and installing it with usb
[06:38] <jojoman02> anyone know if mpeg2 decoding happens on cpu or graphics card?
[06:39] <jojoman02> for dvd's
[06:39] <bug_> noiesmo: that's what i was worried about, but it works fine in win. i think that it may have something to do with pioneer using a different standard (something with mountain or ridge in its name). ehh, who knows.. i'm going to give up on it for now. it's probably the ata port or something weird like that. thanks, though...
[06:39] <tk> jojoman02: I would say it depends on the card.... (just a guess)
[06:39] <bug_> jojoman: it depends on whether or not you have a hardware dvd decoder card
[06:40] <bug_> jojoman: if you don't, it's done by the processor/software.
[06:40] <leroy> A friend of mine is wondering why sudo shutdown -R now doesn't restart his server... it's like stalling, any ideas?
[06:40] <Ademan> !ntfs
[06:40] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:40] <slept> leroy, and the time eg now
[06:40] <slept> oh sorry
[06:41] <wickedpuppy> leroy, can you man shutdown ? i can't find -R
[06:41] <tk> ugh.... something is killing my CPU
[06:41] <bug_> leroy: maybe the shutdown process is waiting for something to end/die..  also, i think it's sudo shutdown -r now ... not -R
[06:41] <leroy> ah okie :)
[06:42] <bug_> leroy: my sata card/drive sometimes laaagggs when i shutdown
[06:42] <wickedpuppy> leroy, i normally do sudo reboot ...
[06:42] <leroy> me too.  ill tell him that
[06:42] <wickedpuppy> great :P
[06:42] <jojoman02> do cheap cards have hardware dvd decoders?
[06:43] <bug_> i may have found a bug in edgy. where should i report it without having to setup a bugzilla acct or whatever?
[06:43] <cherubiel> JoshIRL: any mods you did to the hardware? is the crrent OS running without problems? or does it reboot too
[06:43] <wickedpuppy> #ubuntu+1
[06:43] <charlie5> mmm, the images from bootdisk.com are self-extracting windows exe's ... how can i use them with linux ?
[06:43] <bug_> jojoman: no.. i'm pretty sure that you need to buy a dedicated card (hollywood+ is one, i believe)... who knows how expensive those are,..
[06:43] <leroy> I'd like to check out the newer distro from ubuntu (besides Dapper Drake)... is there a command I can use to upgrade?
[06:43] <host`> what program should I use to run my wlan?
[06:43] <rey> can anyone here help me with a modem problem
[06:44] <bug_> wickedpuppy: ah ..headed there now
[06:44] <roughtrader> anyone know when edgy-eft is scheduled for release?
[06:44] <wickedpuppy> !schedule
[06:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[06:44] <cherubiel> charlie5: premade linux bootdisk avaialble too
[06:44] <ANTDx1> hey guys
[06:44] <charlie5> cherubiel: ah, thanks ... i'll look closer
[06:45] <ANTDx1> is there a way to run the ndiswrapper utility other than as a startup module?  It breaks when I run it on boot
[06:45] <wickedpuppy> !upgrade > leroy
[06:45] <roughtrader> I just installed 6.06 LTS last week. last time I ran linux was FC2. man I'm loving ubuntu
[06:46] <leroy> alright
[06:46] <wickedpuppy> roughtrader, but its not nice for fedora .. lol its like saying i love win95 and last time i tried was dos ..
[06:46] <leroy> wicked: I don't know the new release name :(
[06:46] <wickedpuppy> not that i like fedora ...
[06:46] <wickedpuppy> leroy, edgy
[06:46] <roughtrader> i hate to say it but fedora / RH sucks in my opinion
[06:46] <wickedpuppy> !edgy
[06:46] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:47] <host`> Question, well 1 question and 1 problem... the question is what wrapper should I use to use my wlan adaptor?
[06:47] <noiesmo> host`, ndiswrapper with win xp driver
[06:47] <wickedpuppy> roughtrader, why ? its ok .. but not polished .. but if you used RHEL before it would be fine
[06:47] <host`> and the problem is that I thought that it was already configured at rausb0, but then I try to active that my box froze up
[06:47] <brkpipe789> will it be easy to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 (Edgy)? I just dumped Winxp and only keep Win2000 on another partition for games
[06:47] <roughtrader> yum seems to be unbearably slow
[06:48] <roughtrader> maybe i'm too used to apt-get
[06:48] <noiesmo> host`, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper might help you to
[06:48] <wastrel> what's yum?
[06:48] <leroy> Thanks wicket :)
[06:48] <brkpipe789> k thanks
[06:48] <host`> thanks
[06:48] <leroy> yum's the packavge manager for fedora
[06:48] <leroy> and newer red hat releases, right?
[06:48] <wastrel> rpm i suppose
[06:48] <leroy> yes, it is like rpm, but newer...
[06:48] <brkpipe789> I saw Xandros Premium at the Compusa for 70 bucks LOL
[06:48] <wickedpuppy> roughtrader, yah i can tell ya ubuntu has the bext repos .. that shows ya how much mark shuttleworth put his money in it
[06:49] <wickedpuppy> leroy, no ... yum is like apt-get .. not packet manager ..
[06:49] <tk> all this time I thought linux was supposed to handle crashes better :(
[06:49] <odyssevs> mneptok, so you know, 0,38 is a fairly standard vpi/vci in the UK.
[06:49] <JDStone> how would I do software RAID in 6.06?
[06:49] <JDStone> RAID 1
[06:50] <wickedpuppy> tk, it does ...
[06:50] <tk> something totally locked my input devices out.... atleast with windows I could kill the offending program
[06:50] <kendals> What is the password for a Samba password to connect to my Ubuntu computer from an OSX or Windows box?
[06:50] <wickedpuppy> tk, when ya keyboard and mouse is out in windows .. how you kill a program ?
[06:51] <tk> was first time of course, just upset I had to hard reboot
[06:51] <SuperMiguel> kendals: your user passowd
[06:51] <charlie5> do you have to type anything in when flashing bios ... or can you just put the disk in and it will do it auto ?
[06:51] <kendals> I tried that , supermiguel...
[06:51] <kendals> It doesn't accept it :(
[06:51] <SuperMiguel> try guess
[06:51] <kendals> It just keeps bringing up the dialogue again..
[06:51] <SuperMiguel> guest
[06:51] <tk> wickedpuppy: windows still gives clock cycles for input, it may take 30seconds for it to respond, but it responds, ubuntu just ignored me for 5 minutes before powering down hard
[06:52] <kendals> guest doesn't work :(
[06:52] <SuperMiguel> make a new account
[06:52] <SuperMiguel> and try
[06:52] <wickedpuppy> ? when i press my power button .. all OS the same ...
[06:52] <tk> charlie5: depends on the flash... some programs provide one that works via autoexec, some require you to run the program by hand (sometimes providing the bin file in cmd line, sometimes it lets you pick it via a makeshift GUI)
[06:53] <odyssevs> Any of you know how one brings up the guided setup for exim4?
[06:53] <kendals> thanks supermiguel, i'll try now :)
[06:53] <charlie5> tk: ah, i hope its auto ... the box has a faulty ps2 connector and only works with USB kboard after OS has booted :/
[06:54] <tk> charlie5: check the autoexec.bat file on the disk then
[06:54] <tk> its a standard txt file.... see if it lists any programs on the disk... also might want to check the manual on the flasher to see if it requires input... from keyboard
[06:54] <odyssevs> gah, dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config does it. nevermind.
[06:55] <leroy> Just curious if anyone has had luck getting XGL and Compiz to work within dapper drake? :/
[06:55] <leroy> I tried all day, nothing :(  Found all sorts of articles..
[06:55] <Ademan> when i try to open a word *.doc all it displays is "Your browser does not support frames" what should I do?
[06:55] <noiesmo> Lerusing it now
[06:55] <noiesmo> leroy, using it now
[06:55] <wayney> I'm having problems getting 915resolution to display @ 1920X1200, can someone please help me? I've tried the wiki + forums to no avail :(
[06:55] <roughtrader> man I just watched Ju-on and Ju-on 2 today. talk about creepy
[06:55] <theunruled> Hello everyone. I am looking for a text based messenger, something like centericq, but better
[06:55] <leroy> noie> what's your trick man...
[06:55] <charlie5> tk: i don't think an autoexec.bat came with the flash files ... only the flash.exe & its data
[06:56] <charlie5> tk: i should be able to manually write one though ? ... its just a matter of calling the falsh utility exe, isn;t it ?
[06:56] <asabil> Ademan, clicking on a link ?
[06:57] <noiesmo> leroy, no trick here's my guide http://forum.beryl-project.org/post-44103#p44103
[06:58] <leroy> noiesmo> Ati or Nvidia?
[06:58] <tk> charlie5: depends on the flash program :P and yes, just name a file autoexec.bat and put "flash.exe"" in it... or whatever the flasher is
[06:58] <noiesmo> on nvidia now but have had ati as well leroy
[06:58] <tk> afk
[06:58] <leroy> nice.  :)
[06:59] <noiesmo> leroy, the guides for 32bit
[06:59] <charlie5> tk: great ... thanks for the help :D
[06:59] <Ademan> asabil: no this is with openoffice
[06:59] <noiesmo> leroy, don't want to know about 64bit its a bit painful
[07:00] <leroy> damn
[07:00] <leroy> im running 64bit
[07:00] <leroy> :(
[07:00] <asabil> weird :/ could you complain to the person who sent you the .doc ?
[07:00] <leroy> maybe i should downgrade
[07:00] <asabil> and ask for an odf
[07:00] <kendals> Bah! I still can't get OSX to access my SMB share from Ubuntu :(
[07:00] <noiesmo> leroy, its doable but check the beryl forum there's sure to be a 64bit guide
[07:00] <kendals> IT keeps telling me the user thing couldn't authenticate
[07:00] <kendals> When it's the correct username and password!
[07:01] <leroy> well can i downgrade to 32bit?
[07:01] <leroy> :(
[07:02] <noiesmo> leroy, yeah suppose
[07:02] <leroy> i could just format the partition and reinstall since this is new, right?  im just afraid i won't be able to get back into xp (dual booting) LOL
[07:02] <leroy> Does Ubuntu mess with the MBR?
[07:02] <noiesmo> leroy, i think the tricks to get graphics driver working first then xgl etc
[07:02] <leroy> how can I test to see if they are working?
[07:03] <noiesmo> leroy, ubuntu will pick up your win install and adjust mbr
[07:03] <leroy> anything , like a test opengl thing?
[07:03] <leroy> ah :p
[07:03] <noiesmo> leroy, you ati or nvidia
[07:03] <leroy> ati
[07:03] <leroy> :(
[07:03] <leroy> it's a laptop
[07:03] <ChocoCid> it's sad that that one particular question keeps having to get asked :(
[07:04] <noiesmo> ChocoCid, yes and I just want to run and hide when ati the answer
[07:04] <deadly_venom> I've just re-installed Ubuntu (Clean Install) .. 5 min of use, it  tells me, I have 43 updates .. Should I update it ALL .. or .. ?
[07:04] <ChocoCid> sure, deadly_venom
[07:04] <theunruled> update them
[07:04] <noiesmo> leroy, are you on fglrx driver
[07:04] <ChocoCid> unlike That Other Os there's no reason not to update here
[07:04] <leroy> well I apt-get'd it
[07:04] <ChocoCid> i have an ati because i didn't know i'd be using linux in a year and a half when i got this computer
[07:05] <noiesmo> leroy, cat /etx/X11/xorg.conf | grep fglrx
[07:05] <leroy> that grep sure is handy :P
[07:05] <deadly_venom> But there is some, i don't think  , such as mysql-common
[07:05] <noiesmo> leroy, lsmod | grep fglrx
[07:05] <ChocoCid> there's no reason not to update it if you have it in your system
[07:05] <ChocoCid> if you want to get rid of it, uninstall it
[07:05] <JoshIRL> I have a HP pavilion a705w, the processor is a 2.93 ghz intel celeron (R) and it wont install ubuntu, why? It gets to the beggining at booting the kernel (right after you click start) and it just kills the pc, and reboots.. helpy?
[07:05] <ChocoCid> hrm
[07:05] <ChocoCid> which install disc did you get?
[07:05] <noiesmo> leroy, you should see something like fglrx 457032 63
[07:05] <leroy> it says it's there
[07:05] <noiesmo> agpgart 34888 2 fglrx,via_agp
[07:05] <ChocoCid> i386 or what?
[07:05] <JoshIRL> Drapper..
[07:06] <JoshIRL> I've tried drapper and breezy
[07:06] <JoshIRL> oh
[07:06] <ChocoCid> no, not dapper, but the precise version
[07:06] <JoshIRL> Uhm
[07:06] <JoshIRL> the one off the site :P
[07:06] <ChocoCid> if you tried an AMD installer on the pentium chip that'll be a problem
[07:06] <Coir> anyone have reccs for a good ftp server? I am just going to be using it as a local server since it's faster than fpt.
[07:06] <Coir> er
[07:06] <Coir> sftp
[07:06] <JoshIRL> Amd installer?
[07:06] <ChocoCid> what's the naem of your iso?
[07:06] <nickv111> Whenever I try to compile applications it says, "Checking for X. No." What developer packages to I need to install?
[07:06] <JoshIRL> give me a second.
[07:06] <ChocoCid> AMD is a different brand of computer processor manufacturer
[07:06] <JoshIRL> :x
[07:07] <leroy> yeah it says 452468, noiesmo
[07:07] <vanhtu1987> Hi, will anyone answer this question please ? How come my news reader ([r] tin) returns no news group for what ever (valid) news server I specified through NNTSERVER ?
[07:07] <asabil> JoshIRL, there are 3 supported arch by ububtu : x86, a64 and ppc
[07:07] <azureal> hi, i've managed to cause an X error when i upgraded to edgy
[07:07] <JoshIRL> i downloaded.. uh
[07:07] <JoshIRL> ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso
[07:07] <noiesmo> leroy, join #ubuntu-xgl if you want help with doing compiz but I don't have the right sources for 64bit
[07:07] <ChocoCid> hrm, that's the right one, then
[07:07] <hadrion> #ubuntu-xgl is dead
[07:07] <AWOSDev> I'm having a problem with OpenOffice 2.0.2 Writer.  It freezes when I attempt to import an image.
[07:08] <JoshIRL> Any idea why else it might be?
[07:08] <AWOSDev> I tried #OpenOffice.org to no avail
[07:08] <noiesmo> leroy, maybe dbo can help with that info he's an admin and very very helpful
[07:08] <azureal> it said "no screens found" ... one old forum post suggests "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" .. do you guys agree? or any other ideas?
[07:08] <ChocoCid> do you have it installed, JoshIRL ?
[07:08] <kate> !sudo
[07:08] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:08] <ChocoCid> or, you mean booting the livecd?
[07:08] <JoshIRL> no, i'm on my living room pc
[07:08] <azureal> plus, i think my sources might all be messed up
[07:08] <JoshIRL> i've tried both
[07:08] <asabil> AWOSDev, is it a copy paste from a website ?
[07:08] <ChocoCid> it crashes booting the livecd?
[07:08] <JoshIRL> and a older version of ubuntu
[07:08] <JoshIRL> they all crash at booting the kernel.... ok
[07:08] <AWOSDev> asabil, the picture?  No I made it myself in KolourPaint.
[07:08] <JoshIRL> yes
[07:08] <JoshIRL> and the install
[07:09] <asabil> AWOSDev, ok, so I don;t know sorry
[07:09] <ChocoCid> i don't know about things at that level, someone else might though
[07:09] <noiesmo> leroy, I gotta head off for a bit now thou but check the forum here http://forum.beryl-project.org
[07:09] <ChocoCid> i tend to only know stuff i've had problems with :|
[07:09] <leroy> thanks man :)
[07:09] <JoshIRL> dang, thanks anyways
[07:09] <noiesmo> leroy, np :)
[07:09] <hadrion> i cant get both cedega and beryl to work at the same time
[07:09] <ChocoCid> heh
[07:09] <hadrion> is there any way to start a second XGL server?
[07:09] <ChocoCid> beryl doesn't work reliably enough to be reliable :\
[07:10] <hadrion> works fine for me
[07:10] <azureal> nvm, i think i've found a solution here http://enterprise.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/08/23/137206&tid=129
[07:10] <JoshIRL> I have a HP pavilion a705w, the processor is a 2.93 ghz intel celeron (R) and it wont install ubuntu, why? It gets to the beggining at booting the kernel (right after you click start) and it just kills the pc, and reboots.. helpy?
[07:10] <azureal> <for my prob>
[07:10] <JoshIRL> ^anyone else wanna take a stab?
[07:10] <noiesmo> hadrion, i use seperate session for that loading normal X at login and not xgl
[07:10] <hadrion> the seperate sessions dont appear to work
[07:10] <AWOSDev> JoshIRL, hmm, throttle the CPU down if you can
[07:10] <asabil> JoshIRL, I might suggest to turn off acpi
[07:10] <hadrion> I'm using a gdm.conf-custom method
[07:10] <JoshIRL> I have tried asabil
[07:10] <JoshIRL> aw0sdev, english?
[07:10] <JoshIRL> :P
[07:11] <noiesmo> hadrion, no you cant use gdm.conf-custom as then your running xgl all the time
[07:11] <AWOSDev> JoshIRL make it slower than 2.93GHz
[07:11] <AWOSDev> JoshIRL, is it desktop or laptop?
[07:11] <JoshIRL> Well, yes, i got that much, but how.
[07:11] <asabil> JoshIRL, acpi
[07:11] <JoshIRL> Desk
[07:11] <hadrion> I cant get it to wor any other way
[07:11] <hadrion> cant even put the stuff in gdm.conf
[07:11] <AWOSDev> JoshIRL, in the BIOS setup does it have a "timer" or "bus speed" option?
[07:11] <noiesmo> hadrion, you need to use stock gdm with normal X
[07:11] <JoshIRL> I don't think so. i'm not on that pc atm, but i don't recall it
[07:11] <AWOSDev> JoshIRL, that's the letter o not number 0 in my nick :)
[07:11] <hadrion> and start xgl manually?
[07:12] <AWOSDev> JoshIRL what's the model name again?
[07:12] <JoshIRL> Sorry
[07:12] <JoshIRL> of the pc or proc?
[07:12] <hadrion> when i put it into te normal gdm.conf it stops working
[07:12] <AWOSDev> JoshIRL I assume it's a Pentium 4 for the processor, the PC
[07:12] <JoshIRL> Hp pavilion a705w is the pc model
[07:12] <JoshIRL> 2.93 ghz intel celeron (r) is the processor
[07:12] <noiesmo> hadrion, here check this about half way down page http://forum.beryl-project.org/topic-205-5.html
[07:12] <hadrion> k
[07:12] <asabil> JoshIRL, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/45141-i-cant-get-debian-installed-booting-problems.html
[07:13] <noiesmo> hadrion, i show how to do what i'm trying to tell you
[07:13] <asabil> JoshIRL, http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=944409&admit=-682735245+1160197931151+28353475
[07:13] <JoshIRL> wow, good eye asa lol
[07:13] <asabil> basically your hardware is not linux friendly
[07:13] <noiesmo> hadrion, it needs to be tweaked if you using beryl-manager
[07:13] <hadrion> I do..
[07:14] <hadrion> im in gnome as well
[07:14] <JoshIRL> hmm
[07:14] <JoshIRL> looks like i can't have linux on it
[07:14] <JoshIRL> Oh well.
[07:14] <AWOSDev> JoshIRL, I pity you
[07:14] <JoshIRL> I pity me too
[07:14] <JoshIRL> It's ok, cause i got ubuntu on this pc lol
[07:14] <AWOSDev> and what idiot at HP did *that*?
[07:14] <JoshIRL> guess that one gets windows, once i find a 95 disk :P
[07:14] <JoshIRL> there's no way to bypass it?
[07:15] <AWOSDev> JoshIRL, ooh you're gonna likey 95 on that hardware, I know I've tried :)
[07:15] <AWOSDev> JoshIRL, nope.
[07:15] <harrism> Hello all, I just got return to castle wolfenstein (not et) running through wine but I have no sound. I try killall esd but terminal says "no process killed" any ideas?
[07:15] <JoshIRL> That's silly. =-P
[07:15] <JoshIRL> Oh well, thanks a bunch for your help guys. :D
[07:15] <asabil> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=348928
[07:15] <jiSh> why run through wine it runs natively
[07:15] <AWOSDev> JoshIRL, that's what I mean, what idiot at HP made a non-Linux-friendly PC?
[07:15] <JoshIRL> yeah
[07:15] <asabil> JoshIRL, that url was for you too
[07:16] <mneptok> JoshIRL: Linux will work fine
[07:16] <JoshIRL> Oh?
[07:16] <JoshIRL> Elaborate? lol
[07:16] <mneptok> JoshIRL: it seems from those psosts that ACPI is an issue. you can disable ACPI at boot time.
[07:16] <mneptok> *posts
[07:16] <JoshIRL> how?
[07:16] <JDStone> How do I do RAID 1 on the non-root hard drives?
[07:17] <JoshIRL> what's the command to disable acpi?
[07:17] <mneptok> JoshIRL: you pass acpi=off to the kernel at boot time. i'll find you something on passing kernel parameters.
[07:17] <JoshIRL> o.o
[07:17] <JoshIRL> brb
[07:17] <AWOSDev> mneptok, why doesn't the censored LiveCD bootloader give you options to do that?
[07:18] <mneptok> JoshIRL: read through this thread - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2620
[07:18] <mneptok> AWOSDev: not my decision? :)
[07:18] <odyssevs> When sending mail to a local domain from a remote one, I get a 550 (relay not permitted) error. Using exim4.. what have I done wrong?
[07:18] <AWOSDev> mneptok, LOL I was just wondering if you knew
[07:19] <deadly_venom> anyone Good with ndiswrapper ?
[07:19] <AWOSDev> deadly_venom, well I can get it running but not with Wifi
[07:19] <ajmitch> odyssevs: using the standard configuration with debconf?
[07:19] <odyssevs> ajmitch, yep.
[07:19] <ajmitch> edit /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf, add your domain to dc_other_hostnames
[07:20] <ajmitch> sudo update-exim4.conf
[07:20] <harrism> can anyone shed light on how to get sound working in RTCW? I have checked the forums but just find into on enemy territory.. I am running the game though wine and have no sound
[07:20] <deadly_venom> AWOSDev Hold on, sorry.
[07:20] <asabil> anyone managed to get grub working on macbook ?
[07:20] <ajmitch> odyssevs: it *should* honour the usual mailname, but I found that it didn't the other day for me
[07:20] <wrabbit^> is there a way to clean up my install with a "repair"(just to remove all the unwanted crap) without losing the documents in /home/username?
[07:20] <ajmitch> & so I found I needed to add it there
[07:20] <odyssevs> ajmitch, nope, doesn't like this.
[07:21] <Madpilot> harrism, isn't there a Linux-native version of RTCW like there is of ET? No need for wine...
[07:21] <ajmitch> odyssevs: you can test locally with sudo exim4 -d -bt username@domain
[07:21] <odyssevs> I can send mail locally. But through my ISP email account, my server returns the 550 error.
[07:21] <ajmitch> to test the mail routing
[07:21] <deadly_venom> Alright, I'm back AWOSDev ..
[07:21] <AWOSDev> So does anybody know what could be wrong with OOwriter 2.0.2?
[07:21] <ajmitch> interesting
[07:22] <AWOSDev> deadly_venom are you registered with freenode?
[07:22] <JoshIRL> im back
[07:22] <harrism> Madpilot.. really? didn't know that :P is it free?
[07:22] <JoshIRL> i couldn't find a place on my ubuntu 6.06 drapper disk to put in the command to disable acpi.
[07:22] <deadly_venom> AWOSDev:  nop,, why? Do i have to?:
[07:22] <harrism> I have et already but didn't know there was also RTCW
[07:22] <AWOSDev> deadly_venom no I was just asking, we could do the pm thing but that's alright
[07:22] <AWOSDev> deadly_venom what is wrong with your ndiswrapper?
[07:22] <Madpilot> harrism, I know ET is free to download; I think RTCW is payware, but if you have the Windows version you might be able to grab the Linux installer for it
[07:23] <deadly_venom> AWOSDev:  since I'm going to be here most of the time, sure :)
[07:23] <asabil> JoshIRL, F6 ?
[07:23] <JoshIRL> On the ubuntu 6.06 drapper disk, where can i put the command to disable acpi? The only optikons i see are the 'install' 'install safe mode' 'check disk for' and 'memtest'
[07:23] <JoshIRL> nope
[07:23] <odyssevs> ajmitch, eh. I've done sudo /etc/init.d/exim4 reload - and now I receive no errors (and don't receive the mail either.)
[07:23] <deadly_venom> How do i register? .. in DALnet it was /ns register nick password email
[07:23] <Madpilot> deadly_venom, /msg nickserv register help
[07:23] <JoshIRL> i dont think so asabil, brb again lol
[07:24] <asabil> JoshIRL, there are switches on th bottom : F1, F2 ....
[07:24] <AWOSDev> asabil, I thought that was on RedHat, I never saw that on Ubuntu
[07:24] <harrism> that is an idea, but I wonder if there is a way I can get sound with what I have now :/ since I got it running and all.
[07:24] <deadly_venom> Mad
[07:24] <deadly_venom> Madpilot:  how do i change my password?
[07:24] <stonarmusic> sudo passwd username
[07:24] <Madpilot> deadly_venom, I can't remember offhand - thru nickserv, though - /msg nickserv help
[07:25] <asabil> there are switches to change resolution, language ...
[07:25] <deadly_venom> -- /msg nickserv register help .. registered my pass as help, lol..
[07:25] <Madpilot> deadly_venom, assuming you mean 'pw in Freenode', that is
[07:25] <charlie5> is cmos the same as bios ? ... i re-flashed bios, but still get a cmos checksum error :/
[07:25] <deadly_venom> Madpilot:  you told me /msg nickserv register help :(
[07:26] <ChocoCid> then change your password :P
[07:26] <Madpilot> deadly_venom, yeah, sorry... my mistake. "/msg nickserv help" gets the main nickserv help thing
[07:26] <odyssevs> ajmitch, /var/log/exim4/mainlog has `2006-10-07 06:22:47 1GW4e7-00027G-8y == barry@jeminas.com R=userforward defer (-1): failed to stat /home/barry/. (No such file or directory)`
[07:27] <deadly_venom> since you typed nickserv register help, i've registered my nick with the password help .. i just want to change the password at the moment
[07:27] <odyssevs> ajmitch I created this user with --no-create-home.
[07:27] <AWOSDev> deadly_venom: /msg NickServ SET PASSWORD <newpassword>
[07:27] <JoshIRL> yes :D!
[07:27] <JoshIRL> It's loading ubuntu live atm :D
[07:27] <unfknblvbl> what app can i use to convert mp3 to ogg ?
[07:27] <wrabbit^> Is there a way to "repair and clean" my installation without having to a) reinstall and b)lose the saved stuff in /home/username?\
[07:27] <JoshIRL> I love you guys :D
[07:27] <JoshIRL> Thanks.
[07:27] <AWOSDev> JoshIRL really?  Coolness!
[07:28] <JoshIRL> Yeah
[07:28] <JoshIRL> =)
[07:28] <JoshIRL> i hope it lets me isntall
[07:28] <JoshIRL> install*
[07:28] <JoshIRL> if it does, i'm good. :D
[07:28] <AWOSDev> JoshIRL yeah, you'll love Ubuntu.  I know I do :)
[07:28] <ajmitch> odyssevs: ah right, so you'll need to setup exim so that it doesn't try that :)
[07:28] <JoshIRL> i've used it before :P
[07:28] <JoshIRL> i do love it
[07:29] <JoshIRL> Well, i didn't have it too long, but it was definately the best free os or linux i used.
[07:29] <AWOSDev> JoshIRL oh LOL
[07:29] <deadly_venom> AWOSDev:  got my msg ?
[07:29] <JoshIRL> :P
[07:29] <JoshIRL> Thanks guys, imma go finish installing :)
[07:30] <AWOSDev> deadly_venom yeah sorry :)
[07:30] <Madpilot> !enter
[07:30] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[07:30] <asabil> JoshIRL, don'ti forget to disable acpi in your grub.conf after install
[07:31] <odyssevs> ajmitch, the exim setup page under debconf is seriously misworded. The page for accepting mail for OTHER local domains gave me the impression it had already taken into account the main domain.
[07:31] <PyroMithrandir> anyone here know if  Ubuntu is going to switch Firefox for IceWeasel?
[07:31] <ajmitch> odyssevs: yes, that's what I thought
[07:32] <unfknblvbl> IceWeasel ?
[07:32] <AWOSDev> PyroMithrandir, sadly I don't think Ubuntu will be changing from Firefox any time soon :(
[07:32] <unfknblvbl> !IceWeasel
[07:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about IceWeasel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:32] <odyssevs> ajmitch, not happy about it needing a /home/ entry for a given user.
[07:32] <JDStone> If I create a software RAID array, will I lose my data that's already on one of the drives?
[07:32] <PyroMithrandir> http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/
[07:32] <AWOSDev> I have no clue what IceWeasel is but anything's better than Firefox  (whole channel gasps)
[07:32] <ajmitch> odyssevs: I think it expects a home dir if the user is local to the system
[07:32] <PyroMithrandir> IceWeasel is firefox without the logo and name
[07:33] <odyssevs> ajmitch, exim3 didn't need that. I used the /etc/aliases file.
[07:33] <ajmitch> you can set it up with virtual users without too many hassles
[07:33] <ermak> hi all, can anyone help to configure sound fot tv-tuner? picture is fine and all chanells have been found, but there is NO SOUND at all
[07:33] <ajmitch> however I wasn't dealing with that too much recently :)
[07:33] <odyssevs> Linux is really very traumatising for the casual user.
[07:34] <PyroMithrandir> Mozilla got mad at debian for using the Firefox name but not the logo (which wasn't free as in freedom), and said "Use the name and logo or neither"
[07:34] <ajmitch> the casual user probably wouldn't be setting up exim
[07:34] <PyroMithrandir> and so we have "Gnuzilla" and "IceWeasel"
[07:34] <odyssevs> PyroMithrandir, I went off Mozilla long ago.
[07:35] <Eclypse> sup all
[07:35] <PyroMithrandir> well, I'm still using Firefox, and I am curious if Ubuntu is going to switch to IceWeasel, because I think it is a terrible name
[07:35] <AWOSDev> opposite of Firefox though :)
[07:36] <hadrion> the script for xgl/beryl isnt working
[07:36] <Eclypse> anyone know when Edgy is comming out?
[07:36] <PyroMithrandir> !edgy
[07:36] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:36] <PyroMithrandir> !schedule
[07:36] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[07:36] <Flannel> Eclypse: 28th, I believe.
[07:36] <charlie5> can you play windows .wmv movies on linux ?
[07:37] <charlie5> with kaffeine, i mean
[07:37] <aum> charlie5, yes, get mplayer
[07:37] <AWOSDev> charlie5, I use VLC
[07:37] <JoshIRL> or lan
[07:37] <charlie5> aum: ok, thanks
[07:37] <JoshIRL> i mean
[07:37] <JoshIRL> vlc, yes.
[07:37] <JoshIRL> Vlc also plays mp3s and most other formats from windows.
[07:37] <aum> charlie5, mplayer handles virtually all known formats
[07:38] <Eclypse> Flannel of this month? :O
[07:38] <Flannel> Eclypse: it's 6.10, so yes.
[07:38] <Eclypse> right on
[07:39] <Eclypse> I like the fact that the boot screens will be full resolution :D
[07:39] <Eclypse> doesn't it boot up faster too?
[07:39] <odyssevs> ajmitch, how much do you know about email?
[07:40] <Flannel> Eclypse: yeah, with upstart.  However, edgy questions really belong in #ubuntu+1
[07:40] <Eclypse> bah
[07:40] <Eclypse> I don't see why
[07:40] <Eclypse> kinda inneffecient
[07:40] <Eclypse> I can understand xgl/compiz
[07:40] <Eclypse> oh well '
[07:40] <Eclypse> w/e
[07:41] <ChocoCid> it does boot up slightly faster for me than dapper did
[07:41] <ChocoCid> it's a minor difference though
[07:42] <hockyhair> has anyone used xmame in ubuntu
[07:42] <ChocoCid> right now i have a love/hate relationship with beryl though, it looks awesome as hell but damn, it needs to stop randomly crashing
[07:42] <fluxinator> is edgy usable? meaning Is it stable enough to install?
[07:42] <ChocoCid> * Topic for #ubuntu+1 is: Welcome to #ubuntu+1! | Welcome our new AIGLX overlords. (unless you use nvidia or fglrx) | Edgy is not stable, it is for development only.  Do not use this on production machines.  Does anyone read the topic anyway?  Edgy still contains many bugs!
[07:42] <|chris3|> sethk: you up still?
[07:42] <mnepton> fluxinator: depends on your usage. if it's your primary desktop, i would recommend against it.
[07:42] <ajmitch> odyssevs: enough to get by
[07:43] <ChocoCid> it runs for me, but i've also got dual boot set up
[07:43] <JoshIRL> mnepton.
[07:43] <fluxinator> mnepton thanks
[07:43] <JoshIRL> I got linux installing on my other pc, thanks bunches =)
[07:43] <mnepton> arr?
[07:43] <mnepton> JoshIRL: sexcellente.
[07:43] <ChocoCid> nice. what was the problem?
[07:43] <JoshIRL> acpi
[07:43] <ChocoCid> hrm
[07:43] <ChocoCid> !acpi
[07:43] <JoshIRL> acpi=off let it boot. :s
[07:43] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (dapper), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[07:44] <ChocoCid> hrm...
[07:44] <JoshIRL> i'm just hoping it all installs clean
[07:44] <ChocoCid> laptop?
[07:44] <JoshIRL> and i have no further problems
[07:44] <JoshIRL> PC
[07:44] <ChocoCid> ah
[07:44] <ChocoCid> i see
[07:44] <ChocoCid> wikipedia is hotness :P
[07:44] <JoshIRL> Since i got this far, the acpi problem should be done, correct?
[07:44] <kruznix> does anyone know the name of the Wireless Manager that's included with Ubuntu and if it's available for other Distributions?
[07:44] <JoshIRL> No more kernel booting problems? :shutters:
[07:44] <kruznix> GUI wireless manager
[07:44] <ChocoCid> uh
[07:45] <Flannel> kruznix: you mean ndiswrapper? or what? (I have no gui, and no wireless, so Im taking a shot in the dark)
[07:45] <ChocoCid> no
[07:45] <ChocoCid> that's not it
[07:45] <mnepton> JoshIRL: you'll want to look into the menu.lst defaults. you can put kernel args in there that will get appended to new kernel updates. so put "acpi=off" in the right defaults line, and all kernel upgrades get that switch applied. the trick is, you *don't* uncomment that defaults line. weird.
[07:45] <odyssevs> gtkndis or something
[07:45] <odyssevs> ndisgui
[07:45] <ChocoCid> i know what he's talking about , i just can't think of the name
[07:45] <Flannel> kruznix: if that's not a gui, it's probably a gnome something or other, in which case, it's a gnome thing, and in other distros
[07:45] <odyssevs> apt-cache search for it
[07:45] <kruznix> Flannel well if you are running xorg/x11/xfree86 whutever you want to call it
[07:45] <ChocoCid> ndisgtk
[07:45] <ChocoCid> that's it
[07:45] <kruznix> there's a wifi manager on ubuntu
[07:45] <hadrion> why doesn't gdm-restart work?
[07:45] <ChocoCid> <3 tab-complete
[07:45] <odyssevs> there you go
[07:45] <hockyhair> i need some help setting up gxmame, i have everything set right as far as i can tell but i can't get my games to show up (they are zip)
[07:45] <Flannel> kruznix: no, I'm running a terminal, and that's it ;)
[07:46] <kruznix> Flannel I know you are... but I'm saying IF!!
[07:46] <ChocoCid> ndisgtk seems like it should work in non-gnome stuff
[07:46] <ChocoCid> er, non-ubuntu
[07:46] <JoshIRL> what is acpi?
[07:46] <ChocoCid> Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI)
[07:46] <AWOSDev> Advanced Configuration and Power Interface
[07:46] <JoshIRL> in noob-terms
[07:46] <JoshIRL> ah
[07:47] <ChocoCid> which is why i was guessing laptop
[07:47] <AWOSDev> I actually know basical ACPI Language for my OS programming :)
[07:47] <ChocoCid> :P
[07:47] <kruznix> Flannel : i've run many boxes with no GUI, but I'm using this on a laptop with wireless.. q; and i'd like to have a gui wifi manager... and if I can't find one, i'll just code one
[07:47] <JoshIRL> :o
[07:47] <JoshIRL> brb checkin the install
[07:47] <mnepton> JoshIRL: http://www.acpi.info/
[07:47] <JoshIRL> *clicks*
[07:47] <hadrion> !gdm-restart
[07:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gdm-restart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <AWOSDev> mnepton, oh please don't confuse him with the ACPI standard, heck that was hard for *me* to understand :)
[07:47] <hadrion> !gdm
[07:47] <ubotu> gdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.10-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1681 kB, installed size 11588 kB
[07:47] <mnepton> AWOSDev: hehehehe.
[07:47] <ChocoCid> heh
[07:48] <Eclypse> is it just me or is beryl-project.org not working...?
[07:48] <AWOSDev> I had to read it three times, but I finally understand it now :)
[07:48] <mnepton> AWOSDev: yay for "spec vs. implementation," which is why this sh!t breaks :/
[07:48] <Flannel> kruznix: someone gave you the answer... I dont know.  apt-cache search can probably find it too.
[07:48] <ChocoCid> forum.beryl-project.org is what you want
[07:48] <ChocoCid> also, #beryl
[07:48] <AWOSDev> mnepton yep :)
[07:48] <Flannel> hadrion: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:48] <odyssevs> mnepton, any way of working the grub approach from a floppy disk? =)
[07:48] <hadrion> thanks
[07:48] <AWOSDev> Eclypse, yes www.beryl-project.org is a blank page
[07:48] <bug_> if anyone is interested, i believe that i fixed my pioneer dvr-a09 problem..
[07:48] <kruznix> Flannel : if you would have read my original question, you would have seen i asked about other distributions for a reason... I'm running slackware 11
[07:49] <Flannel> kruznix: packages.ubuntu.com then
[07:49] <mnepton> odyssevs: restoring GRUB from floppy?
[07:49] <Eclypse> AVOSDev what's going on w/ that...lol
[07:49] <kruznix> i have to login as root to configure wlan0
[07:49] <odyssevs> Yes.
[07:49] <ChocoCid> can't use sudo? o_O
[07:49] <ChocoCid> oh, slackware
[07:49] <mnepton> odyssevs: never tried it meself. GIYF.
[07:49] <ChocoCid> it doesn't have su?
[07:49] <kruznix> q; sudo is there
[07:49] <kruznix> and su is there
[07:49] <Oswaldo> Morning all. Would anyone spend some of their time to help me a bit with fixing my internet connection on Ubuntu?
[07:50] <ChocoCid> you're on the internet now, what's the problem? ;)
[07:50] <kruznix> but I don't want to do it via console everytime and I don't feel like adding it to rc.local or anything for startup cause there are about 4 wireless networks I get on
[07:50] <kruznix> ChocoCid you jumped the gun on that question
[07:50] <Oswaldo> Umm.. Ubuntu is on another computer :P
[07:50] <odyssevs> mnepton, Google Inc are a bunch of Nazis. I mean it. =)
[07:50] <ChocoCid> yeah, obviously, i'm joking :P
[07:50] <ChocoCid> odyssevs : GODWIN
[07:50] <Oswaldo> It's odd since the connection works with the Live CD in, but after installing it won't connect
[07:51] <mnepton> odyssevs: they're not organized enough to be fascists.
[07:51] <ChocoCid> if google is nazis, what the hell is microsoft heh
[07:51] <czer323> The us?
[07:51] <kruznix> Oswaldo how are you connecting to the internet?
[07:51] <Oswaldo> It also finds a few updates, but isn't able to download them
[07:51] <ChocoCid> Oswaldo : are you using wired or wireless?
[07:51] <Oswaldo> Wired ethernet cable connection
[07:51] <ChocoCid> hrm
[07:51] <kruznix> router, no router?
[07:51] <kruznix> type /sbin/ifconfig whut's the output for the eth0? or are you even getting an eth0?
[07:51] <ChocoCid> do you have an icon in the top right corner of your (GNOME) screen (or wherever on KDE) corresponding to your network connection?
[07:52] <ChocoCid> heh, 20 questions here
[07:52] <odyssevs> Fascism needn't be perfect. Google's censorship policies really isn't funny. Anyway, enough of the off topic.
[07:52] <Oswaldo> Not behind a router. Straight connection
[07:52] <Oswaldo> I'll boot the compy up
[07:52] <ChocoCid> odyssevs: last i heard that was china's fault, or is this something else?
[07:52] <mnepton> Oswaldo: there's a good plan ;)
[07:52] <Oswaldo> Yeah, I know :P
[07:52] <Coir> What's the way to setup MySQL name/pw?
[07:52] <JoshIRL> i gotta drag the modem into my room to download a few things so i can use the pc as my media center in my room Lol. tty guys later and thank you
[07:52] <kruznix> Oswaldo how is this connection online then? 2 cable connections? wireless with neighbors network? mobile broadband? dialup?
[07:53] <mnepton> Coir: mysql -u root -p $your_first_password
[07:53] <ChocoCid> you'll see "Connection reset by peer" in a minute, i'm betting ;)
[07:53] <kruznix> ChocoCid lol possibly
[07:53] <Coir> mnepton: don't include the '$', right?
[07:53] <AWOSDev> Coir right
[07:53] <mnepton> Coir: just put the password you want
[07:54] <Oswaldo> kruznix. There are two connections in this house. I'm using ADSL with this compy and cable with the other
[07:54] <Coir> I get an error 1045 saying access denied.
[07:54] <ChocoCid> switch them! >_>
[07:54] <kruznix> Oswaldo : good, just making sure you weren't gonna disconnect on us [;
[07:54] <blind> If I wanted to connect a windows machine and an ubuntu machine via crossover cable, can i share the internet connection between them?
[07:54] <ChocoCid> </probably a bad idea>
[07:54] <Oswaldo> Hehee, okies :)
[07:54] <kruznix> blind if the ubuntu or the windows box had 2 ethernet cards, yes
[07:55] <blind> kruznix: the ubuntu one has a wireless card, wanna share the connection with the windows box.
[07:55] <Shadowpillar> blind: get a nic for that
[07:55] <blind> I have a nic...
[07:55] <Shadowpillar> blind: or you can do the easier route
[07:55] <kruznix> blind : yeah i've setup my boxes like that... but I did it a long time ago with ipchains.. i think they replaced that with something else
[07:56] <Shadowpillar> blind: get a wireless nic for the windows box and have it connect to the router
[07:56] <Shadowpillar> and share files that way
[07:56] <blind> Shadowpillar: that costs too much money.
[07:56] <Shadowpillar> blind: not that much, if you get the right card
[07:56] <Shadowpillar> $30 or so
[07:56] <blind> 30 dollars that i don't have
[07:56] <charlie5> mmm, mplayer and vlc both won;t play this file ... maybe its corrupted
[07:56] <Shadowpillar> blind: does the router have rj-45 ports?
[07:57] <AWOSDev> charlie5 give me the link
[07:57] <blind> yes.
[07:57] <Shadowpillar> blind: as most have wireless + rj-45
[07:57] <blind> but it's upstairs, bro
[07:57] <Shadowpillar> blind: connect the windows box to the router
[07:57] <charlie5> AWOSDev: its off a cd :/
[07:57] <Shadowpillar> blind: throw the windows box up there and set up vnc
[07:57] <AWOSDev> charlie5 oh :X
[07:57] <blind> Shadowpillar: not an option.
[07:57] <AWOSDev> nvm then :)
[07:57] <Shadowpillar> blind: stealing internet? ;)
[07:57] <blind> no.
[07:58] <mnepton> blind: doesn't your WAP/router have at least one wired ethernet out?
[07:58] <kruznix> haha yeah he is q;
[07:58] <blind> it has four.
[07:58] <blind> but it's upstairs.
[07:58] <Shadowpillar> mnepton: he already answered that
[07:58] <mnepton> blind: so connect windows to that
[07:58] <kruznix> so bring it downstairs
[07:58] <blind> i can't bring it downstairs. x_x
[07:58] <Shadowpillar> how come?
[07:58] <Shadowpillar> parents?
[07:58] <kruznix> stealin
[07:58] <kruznix> lol
[07:58] <mnepton> unsuspecting neighbors?
[07:58] <mnepton> 'zackly.
[07:58] <mnepton> :P
[07:59] <blind> I'm not stealing.
[07:59] <blind> I have no cable wire in my room
[07:59] <kruznix> we're just messing with you
[07:59] <dfgas> how do i detect the monitor again? i change the monitor
[07:59] <moktod> anyone
[08:00] <Shadowpillar> moktod: apt-cache search
[08:00] <moktod> Shadowpillar: oh yeah...duh, thanks
[08:00] <blind> now how would i go about sharing the internet connection? x_x
[08:01] <rey> anyone know how to install a conexant soft modem?
[08:01] <Schalken> is it possible, that while doing ./configure, it automatically downloads any packages it needs?
[08:01] <kruznix> blind : i used ipchains before, but I think they were replaced by iptables or something else... it's been a while since i've changed a linuxbox into a router
[08:01] <mnepton> kruznix: grab one of these uber-cheap things. they work in Ubuntu, too - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833315061
[08:01] <kruznix> blind: look up iptables
[08:01] <mnepton> oh, duh
[08:02] <mnepton> blind: grab one of these uber-cheap things. they work in Ubuntu, too - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833315061
[08:02] <kruznix> mnepton : first, I use slackware 11 RC4 on this laptop
[08:02] <mnepton> sorry for the repeat. i'm drunk and the syphilis has made me insane.
[08:02] <kruznix> and... i'm not the one asking about a NIC q;
[08:02] <kruznix> nor sharing
[08:02] <kruznix> that's blind
[08:02] <blind> mnepton: i told you. I'm not buying a wireless card for this computer
[08:03] <Oswaldo> Okies! I ran ifconfig and it gave me eth0
[08:03] <mnepton> blind: then you're using iptables
[08:03] <blind> Fine by me :] 
[08:03] <dfgas> anyone know how to auto setup my new monitor?
[08:03] <mnepton> Oswaldo: does eth0 have an IP address?
[08:03] <blind> dfgas: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:03] <Oswaldo> Doesn't show at least
[08:04] <mnepton> Oswaldo: sudo dhclient eth0
[08:04] <kruznix> Oswaldo does it give you an ip address?
[08:04] <AWOSDev> Okay
[08:04] <kruznix> ok
[08:04] <AWOSDev> How do I add Debian Sarge repos to Ubuntu?
[08:04] <kruznix> then do this : dhcpcd eth0
[08:04] <AWOSDev> is that even possible?
[08:05] <Madpilot> AWOSDev, sounds like a good way to break your Ubuntu
[08:05] <Shadowpillar> AWOSDev: not without huge conflicts
[08:05] <kruznix> or dhclient eth0
[08:05] <kruznix> i dunno how ubuntu does it
[08:05] <mnepton> AWOSDev: /etc/apt/sources.lst
[08:05] <AWOSDev> Madpilot, I just need the OpenOffice from it
[08:05] <mnepton> AWOSDev: and via con dios.
[08:05] <Madpilot> AWOSDev, OOo is installed by default in Ubuntu...
[08:05] <hadrion> noiesmo: Its not working... what dsplay should be standard in gdm.conf?
[08:05] <AWOSDev> I know but I'm on #openoffice.org with a problem and he says he uses Sarge and it works fine
[08:05] <Gustap0> Hi, how do i convert the cursed .lit files?
[08:06] <Gustap0> i've got several ebooks I cannot read using linux :(\
[08:06] <Madpilot> AWOSDev, good for him - but sarge repos in Ubuntu would not be fine
[08:06] <AWOSDev> Madpilot, can you help me with it then?
[08:06] <Madpilot> AWOSDev, OOo? I don't use it much, and I've never had an issue with it. Ask the channel, someone else might have better help than me.
[08:06] <kruznix> Oswaldo : try the dhclient or dhcpcd ... i gotta go. gnite
[08:07] <AWOSDev> Okay
[08:07] <Oswaldo> "No working leases in persistent database - sleeping"
[08:07] <Oswaldo> Aww..
[08:07] <Gustap0> Hi, how do i convert the cursed .lit files?
[08:07] <Gustap0> i've got several ebooks I cannot read using linux :(
[08:07] <ChocoCid> !ebook
[08:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ebook - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:07] <AWOSDev> In OpenOffice 2.0.2 Writer, when I click Insert->Image->From File it immediately freezes.  the taskbar freezes, all the other program menus freeze, the whole thing, until I killall -9 soffice.bin
[08:07] <mnepton> Gustap0: if someone knows, they'll answer. please don't repeat every minute.
[08:07] <ChocoCid> !reader
[08:08] <ChocoCid> blah
[08:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:08] <Gustap0> mnepton: sorry- I thought the msg didnt get through- so registered with nickserv and repeated
[08:09] <mnepton> Oswaldo: what is the physical connection of this machine to the internet? 10BT to a cable modem? what?
[08:09] <Madpilot> mnepton, new nick & hostmask for you?
[08:09] <Oswaldo> 10BT? Umm.. just an enternet cord to the cable modem
[08:10] <mnepton> Madpilot: just using a different host
[08:10] <jon_> this is a stunningly stupid question, but please bear with me.  i just installed the nomachine NX client (from the deb package on their website), and i can't for the life of me figure out how the heck to run the bloody thing
[08:10] <jon_> like, i don't know what the command is
[08:10] <jon_> how would i go about finding that out?
[08:10] <AWOSDev> did you try something like "man nomachine"
[08:10] <AWOSDev> or something like that?
[08:10] <AWOSDev> did it come with documentation?
[08:10] <efuzzyone> I am not able to find "System->Administration->Disks" whats the alternative or equivalent in the command line>
[08:10] <AWOSDev> efuzzyone I use qtparted
[08:11] <wickedpuppy> jon_, normally what i do is type like type the first few characters of the program and use bash auto complete to find the command
[08:11] <hockyhair> help
[08:11] <jon_> AWOSDev: possibly, but i don't know where it put the documentation either
[08:11] <AWOSDev> efuzzyone If you really want a CLI interface try fdisk
[08:11] <akano1n> hi, im new to ubuntu, i have installed in my laptop, i want to install WPA-PSK, ubuntu 6.06.1 here,  and apt-get install network-manager-gnome says that coudnt find it
[08:11] <AWOSDev> jon_ on their Web site?
[08:11] <hockyhair> lol i meant to type hello but help came out :p
[08:11] <jon_> wickedpuppy, that's what i did too, but it's not called nxAnything
[08:11] <AWOSDev> hockyhair LOL
[08:11] <efuzzyone> AWOSDev: i want something GUI based
[08:11] <AWOSDev> efuzzyone try typing "sudo qparted" in the terminal
[08:12] <hockyhair> does anyone use xmame + gxmame, i have a question about them
[08:12] <jon_> AWOSDev, it appears to be such a stupid question that it is not answered on their website
[08:12] <AWOSDev> jon_ :)
[08:12] <Oswaldo> The oddest thing about this is that the connection stops working when changing from the Live CD to the installed system
[08:13] <jon_> is there perhaps a log generated when i run dpkg that i could look at?
[08:13] <efuzzyone> AWOSDev:  i am installing it now
[08:13] <jon_> a log of what it did?
[08:13] <AWOSDev> efuzzyone okay
[08:13] <AWOSDev> jon_ uh, not that I know of, sorry
[08:13] <siTek> I can see my USB printer on the printers dialogue. I have installed the ppd driver file. I cannot print. Do I have to alter the fstab file? Create a device?
[08:13] <simpla> heyas..  Does anyone know when the final release of the Edgy Ubuntu will be out?  I have been searching, but just says October
[08:13] <wickedpuppy> jon_, less /var/log/dpkg.log
[08:13] <wickedpuppy> try this
[08:14] <hockyhair> so is anyone using mame?
[08:14] <jon_> i just found that, actually, wickedpuppy
[08:14] <wickedpuppy> LOL
[08:14] <jon_> alas, it only tells me that the package was installed
[08:14] <jon_> not what it did
[08:14] <wickedpuppy> jon_, actally in rpm its qpm -qf ... but i am not sure how it is done with dpkg
[08:15] <efuzzyone> AWOSDev: it crashes, i want something simple which can just show me the free disk space on my partitions
[08:15] <wickedpuppy> efuzzyone, df -h ?
[08:15] <Gustap0> !AAC2 Josephine Preston Peabody - The Singing Man [txt] .rar
[08:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about AAC2 Josephine Preston Peabody - The Singing Man [txt] .rar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:16] <mnepton> efuzzyone: open a terminal. "df -h"
[08:16] <wickedpuppy> Gustap0, ...
[08:16] <efuzzyone> wickedpuppy: thanks
[08:16] <wickedpuppy> i don'y know we share files like this :P
[08:16] <wickedpuppy> np efuzzyone
[08:16] <AWOSDev> efuzzyone hmm
[08:16] <efuzzyone> but what happened to the "System-Disks" it was there in Dapper, but not anymore in Edgy
[08:17] <mnepton> ok, i need the Big Blue Room. i'm living exactly 27 seconds behind wickedpuppy
[08:17] <wickedpuppy> mnepton, i am in singapore .. you should be closer than me
[08:17] <drumline_> So what's the most special thing about the new version of Ubuntu?
[08:17] <wickedpuppy> drumline_, ah ... it has latest version of programs ?
[08:17] <wrabbit> Stability?
[08:17] <wickedpuppy> actually in OS there hasn't been anything new
[08:18] <akano1n> does i need internet to make apt-get to get working ?
[08:18] <simpla> and its quicker, menus load quicker, it sorta boots quicker
[08:18] <AWOSDev> akano1n yes you do :)
[08:18] <mnepton> akano1n: mostly, yes.
[08:18] <AWOSDev> Can anybody help me with my OO problem?
[08:18] <akano1n> i have a wifi here, my laptop does not have internet yet, so what can i do? i need WPA
[08:18] <drumline_> simpla: sweet..   does it look fancier?  :)
[08:19] <mnepton> akano1n: does your laptop have a standard wired ethernet port?
[08:19] <wickedpuppy> wrabbit, actually stability doesn't go with new ... since debian is known to be extrememly stable yet its release schedule is .. well
[08:19] <akano1n> mnepton yes, but i dont have a wire right now to plug
[08:19] <wickedpuppy> drumline_, you can make dapper fancy now ..
[08:19] <simpla> drumline_, the desktop looks same, cept the artwork/desktop background is nicer then the old one.  The boot up is alot nicer, with a more colours, and hides the text
[08:19] <wrabbit> wickedpuppy: I'm curious about uptime.  Any idea how long I can keep my machine on without a crash?
[08:20] <mnepton> akano1n: wait until you do, use the wired connection to install network-manager-gnome.
[08:20] <akano1n> ok, i get it, i will plug with the eth0 and then config the WPA
[08:20] <wickedpuppy> wrabbit, a long time .. what do you do ? thats the question
[08:20] <drumline_> wickedpuppy: when Ubuntu is debian based, does that mean that Ubuntu relies on Debian for its OS development, or is it a complete fork of Debian with its own complete development team?
[08:20] <AWOSDev> simpla, ew I want the text...a way to get it back?
[08:20] <akano1n> my ubuntu is 6.06.1, its knetworkmanager, right?
[08:20] <simpla> I actually just installed it on my new laptop, but slightly disappointed..  Some of the stuff in my laptop I don't think are quite supported.
[08:20] <wickedpuppy> drumline_, you can find out about debian and ubuntu relationship on the wiki ..
[08:20] <drumline_> wickedpuppy: cool
[08:20] <wrabbit> wickedpuppy: What do I do?  I'd keep it folding
[08:21] <simpla> There is a way, i remember seeing something about it somewhere in the wiki, but don't remember off hand.
[08:21] <AWOSDev> simpla okay :)
[08:21] <wickedpuppy> wrabbit, folding the os ?
[08:21] <AWOSDev> I need help with OpenOffice 2.0.2, can anybody help?
[08:21] <wrabbit> wickedpuppy: I mean folding at home.  The distributed compuiting project.
[08:22] <wrabbit> it uses the CPU idle time to run in the background.
[08:22] <simpla> does anyone know if there is an actual release of when in october it will be released?
[08:22] <wickedpuppy> wrabbit, i mean how long a comp can last depends on the programs running ...
[08:22] <simpla> edgy that is :)
[08:22] <ChocoCid> it's the 20th, i think? not sure
[08:22] <AWOSDev> simpla, October 29th
[08:22] <ChocoCid> ah, ok
[08:22] <AWOSDev> Which is good
[08:22] <simpla> Oh yep ok thanks!
[08:22] <wrabbit> wickedpuppy: ah, ok.  Well nothing at times.  Other times, the usual multimedia stuff, development etc
[08:22] <AWOSDev> because I'll be giving an Ubuntu computer to a friend on that day :)
[08:22] <unfknblvbl> 26thhh
[08:23] <AWOSDev> Okay a fairly dumb question
[08:23] <wickedpuppy> wrabbit, check this out and see what how long a computer can stand http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html
[08:23] <simpla> lol..  AWOSDev  you will be able to give them the latest version
[08:23] <AWOSDev> simpla, yep back from vacation with a new computer, what a great bday present huh?
[08:23] <AWOSDev> Okay
[08:23] <simpla> oo yeah, certainly is
[08:23] <AWOSDev> How do I close a PM window in irssi?
[08:24] <ChocoCid> control-w
[08:24] <ChocoCid> i think
[08:24] <AWOSDev> ChocoCid nope
[08:25] <ChocoCid> hrm
[08:25] <wrabbit> that's a very cool site wickedpuppy, thanks.  I'll check it out after my reinstall
[08:25] <wickedpuppy> wrabbit, you never heard of netcraft ?
[08:25] <wrabbit> wickedpuppy: nope, never
[08:25] <wickedpuppy> what about slashdot ?
[08:26] <unfknblvbl> my system is fine as long as i do not run any 3d applications coz then after 5-10 minutes the comp freezes and freezes and freezes and after 6 restarts its fine
[08:26] <AWOSDev> wrabbit that is a very cool site, I love it
[08:26] <AWOSDev> wickedpuppy, you mean there are people that *don't* know about /. ?
[08:26] <wickedpuppy> AWOSDev, seems like it .. but then not everyone is a geek ..
[08:26] <czer323> lol, /. isn't known by everyone.  I actually found a bunch of people at my work that didn't knw about Digg.com
[08:27] <wrabbit> I know /.
[08:27] <wrabbit> never seen this one though
[08:27] <AWOSDev> wickedpuppy no?  :)
[08:27] <elkbuntu> idle chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[08:27] <czer323> And we're all computer tech support.
[08:27] <lappy> hrm,testing
[08:27] <AWOSDev> czer323, what's digg.com?
[08:27] <elkbuntu> lappy, we read you loud and clear :)
[08:27] <ChocoCid> well.
[08:27] <ChocoCid> control-z closes it!
[08:27] <wickedpuppy> sorry guys ... for starting the topic :P /me goes off ... ZZzzz
[08:27] <ChocoCid> good way to leave dead clients!
[08:27] <drumline_> control Z suspends it...
[08:28] <eEk> how do you use a .diff file?
[08:28] <AWOSDev> Well yep Ctrl+Z killed it alright
[08:28] <AWOSDev> thanks alot :X
[08:28] <ChocoCid> ...heh
[08:29] <ChocoCid> you just got told it closed it
[08:29] <ChocoCid> that's your own fault for not reading :P
[08:29] <drumline_> ChocoCid: which program?
[08:29] <ChocoCid> irssi :P
[08:29] <drumline_> ChocoCid: is your shell still open where you closed it?
[08:29] <ChocoCid> ah, /window close will do it, i think- let me test again
[08:29] <ChocoCid> yeah
[08:29] <drumline_> ChocoCid: try this on the command line: fg
[08:30] <lappy> oh, nice
[08:30] <ChocoCid> doing /window close will do it
[08:30] <ChocoCid> i'm sure there's a better way, but meh
[08:30] <AWOSDev> ChocoCid yeah that worked thanks
[08:30] <ChocoCid> i'd much rather use xchat thanks :P
[08:30] <AWOSDev> :)
[08:31] <AWOSDev> ChocoCid, Konversation and GAIM both don't start up for some reason
[08:31] <AWOSDev> now
[08:31] <AWOSDev> Can somebody please help me with my OpenOffice Writer 2.0.2 problem?
[08:31] <ChocoCid> ah
[08:31] <ChocoCid> odd
[08:31] <ChocoCid> OO writer?
[08:31] <ChocoCid> hm... what exactly is the problem?
[08:31] <AWOSDev> ChocoCid yeah
[08:32] <kyja> what is it I just installed that messes up the fonts at startup ? all the fonts that scroll under the Ubuntu pic before login screen. it starts to scroll and list then all of a sudden it looks like someone changed a bit in the sprite vectors of a c64
[08:32] <AWOSDev> ChocoCid whenever I hit Insert->Image->From File the whole thing freezes, and makes Kicker (KDE taskbar) and all other application menus freeze until I killall -9 soffice.bin
[08:32] <ChocoCid> hrm...
[08:33] <ChocoCid> i can suggest "try abiword" but i don't know what would cause that particular problem
[08:33] <AWOSDev> blank document or previosuly-saved document
[08:33] <AWOSDev> I need OO because I use Calc too
[08:33] <AWOSDev> Calc for Business, Writer for personal stuff
[08:34] <AWOSDev> and another problem plaguing my computer:
[08:34] <AWOSDev> some files are missing in the File->Open box of other apps
[08:34] <AWOSDev> for no reason
[08:34] <AWOSDev> just missing
[08:34] <ChocoCid> hrm
[08:34] <ChocoCid> wonder if your file manager is borken
[08:34] <AWOSDev> how can I fix it?
[08:34] <Zv_oDD> why wont my xubuntu except this url for my sources.list source : http://ftp.iinet.com.au/linux/ubuntu
[08:34] <ChocoCid> i have no idea, AWOSDev
[08:34] <Zv_oDD> for apt get
[08:34] <ChocoCid> Zv_oDD : source.list needs more stuff after that
[08:34] <Zv_oDD> it does
[08:35] <AWOSDev> ChocoCid: apt-get reconfigure or something like that?
[08:35] <Zv_oDD> but this is the url i used, and i dont know why it wont work
[08:35] <ChocoCid> AWOSDev : something like that, yeah
[08:35] <ChocoCid> or just uninstall/reinstall OO
[08:35] <ChocoCid> do you have OO "premium" or whatever silliness they're calling it?
[08:36] <ChocoCid> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ooop/
[08:36] <AWOSDev> No
[08:36] <AWOSDev> just regular from-the-repo OO
[08:36] <ChocoCid> hrm
[08:36] <ChocoCid> might be worth looking into that instead of regular OO if you've got further problems
[08:36] <AWOSDev> I tried talking to #openoffice.org but they had no clue, because they use Debian Sarge repos :X
[08:36] <ChocoCid> odd
[08:36] <eEk> how do you patch something, or use a .diff file?
[08:37] <AWOSDev> Sarge repos are not having this problem
[08:37] <ChocoCid> hrm
[08:37] <ChocoCid> let me test my oo real quick
[08:37] <AWOSDev> okay how do I reinstall a critical package without killing my system?
[08:38] <ChocoCid> hrm
[08:38] <ChocoCid> insert-image-from file works for me, but i'm on edgy so...
[08:38] <AWOSDev> hmm
[08:39] <siTek> I am currently configuring my printer on http://localhost:631/admin Can someone please tell me the correct user name and password? It is not accepting root as a username
[08:39] <ChocoCid> have you tried different formats of images?
[08:39] <ChocoCid> siTek : try your ubuntu username and pass,
[08:39] <AWOSDev> ChocoCid No because I can't get the box to come up
[08:39] <AWOSDev> ChocoCid It freezes before the box comes up
[08:39] <ChocoCid> oh, it crashes before you get to insert
[08:39] <ChocoCid> wow
[08:39] <siTek> ChocoCid, I tried but with no luck
[08:39] <AWOSDev> ChocoCid, yep :)
[08:40] <theunruled> Hello everyone. I am looking for a text based messenger, something like centericq, but better
[08:40] <ChocoCid> for what, irc, aim, icq, what?
[08:41] <ChocoCid> er, minus one "what"
[08:41] <theunruled> altogether
[08:41] <theunruled> if possible
[08:41] <theunruled> but mainly msn
[08:41] <ChocoCid> ehh, irssi can handle irc
[08:41] <ChocoCid> (so can bitchx, and tons of others)
[08:41] <mnepton> theunruled: you want irssi + bitlbee
[08:41] <ChocoCid> don't know about the other messengers
[08:41] <theunruled> bitlbee?
[08:41] <siTek> theunruled, I had gaim going on msn
[08:41] <mnepton> bitlbee.
[08:41] <theunruled> i'm using irssi right now for irc
[08:42] <charlie5> thanks for the help guys ... but i've trashed the old box good :/ ... need to change cmos settings via kboard which won;t work ... time for the junk heap
[08:42] <simpla> oh cool, I just looked up what bitlbee is.  A program which tunnels msn etc into a virtual irc channel.
[08:43] <cuijinli> talisein: install nautilus-open-terminal to provide a menu option for any local folder object to open a terminal in that folder. Note: X-window need restart.
[08:43] <AWOSDev> charlie5, what'd you do?
[08:44] <charlie5> AWOSDev: the cmos was corrupt, so i took out and put back in the battery to reset it ... now it asks me to enter bios to update cmos settings ... but i can't cos the ps2 port is busted (only usb kboard works)
[08:44] <ChocoCid> yay, set up folding@home
[08:44] <AWOSDev> charlie5 LOL
[08:44] <theunruled> siTek: do u know any text based replacement for GAIM though?
[08:44] <charlie5> yep ... its a hoot ;)
[08:44] <JoshIRL> i'm baaack :P
[08:44] <siTek> theunruled, no what is wrong with gui?
[08:44] <JoshIRL> and needing help
[08:44] <theunruled> doesn't go with fluxbox
[08:45] <charlie5> sick of the darned thing anyway ... simpler to get a new box
[08:45] <JoshIRL> I have qwest dsl for internet, i plugged in my modem and i couldn't get a reply in firefox or whatnot, but i can download/install stuff from the repositorys, why?
[08:45] <charlie5> anyways, thanks again ... nearly got there :) .. and bye for now
[08:45] <Jesse1984> Hi, anyone feel like helping me with my ubuntu 6.06 install? having problems, and i have googled answers for a couple of days...
[08:46] <JoshIRL> What problems?
[08:46] <mnepton> JoshIRL: DNS issues?
[08:46] <JoshIRL> And how do i repair or fix those mnepton?
[08:46] <ChocoCid> first
[08:46] <mnepton> JoshIRL: well, test first. "nslookup cnn.com"
[08:46] <JoshIRL> eh?
[08:46] <JoshIRL> in terminal?
[08:46] <mnepton> yup
[08:47] <ChocoCid> type in "63.245.209.10" in your browser
[08:47] <Daverto> I need help ubuntu wont install
[08:47] <JoshIRL> *mumbles* give me all the things i gotta do
[08:47] <JoshIRL> i'll copy and take back and do them
[08:47] <Jesse1984> i just bought a pc specifically for linux.. just testing waters.. wanting to give up windowsXP.. im booting the system atm to give you the correct error..
[08:47] <ChocoCid> eh
[08:47] <ChocoCid> first we have to find the problem
[08:47] <JoshIRL> ah
[08:47] <AWOSDev> Hehe
[08:47] <JoshIRL> :s
[08:47] <ChocoCid> you want to check your firefox/bonecho settins to see if they're right
[08:47] <JoshIRL> Bonecho?
[08:47] <ChocoCid> you want to check your dns thing to see if they're right
[08:47] <mnepton> JoshIRL: those two are it. "can you look up and IP address by name, and does Firefox work with a raw IP address?" if the answers are "no" and "yes" respectively, you have DNS problems.
[08:47] <ChocoCid> renamed firefox in next ubuntu, ignore
[08:48] <ChocoCid> forgot they didn't change it for dapper
[08:48] <mnepton> s/and/an/
[08:48] <AWOSDev> Bonecho?  that sounds like some freaky Japanese video game or something :P
[08:48] <ChocoCid> Bon Echo
[08:48] <ChocoCid> 64.233.179.104 is a better ip to try, sorry
[08:48] <ChocoCid> i don't care what it's called, i installed swiftfox anyway
[08:49] <Daverto> ???
[08:49] <ChocoCid> firefox has trademarked their logo
[08:49] <Daverto> Can somebody help me
[08:49] <ChocoCid> oh, you're not ???ing at what i said
[08:49] <ChocoCid> ;[
[08:49] <Jesse1984> i had an install working perfectly! did all the updates, then played with the IDE cables and added another optical drive and all fell to peices, on the ubuntu boot up screen (where it says "loading essential drivers..." "mounting root file system..." ect.) it sits there doing that for like 8mins, then it eventually brings up busybox! and an error, thats where im stuck at.. i have put the ubuntu alternate install cd in, booted from cd
[08:50] <Jesse1984> re-install but it wont do it.. just line and line of fast errors scrolling down the screen
[08:50] <mnepton> Jesse1984: are your IDE devices jumpered correctly for master and slave?
[08:50] <Daverto> choco no
[08:50] <ChocoCid> !question
[08:50] <Jesse1984> yeh, they are
[08:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about question - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:50] <ChocoCid> er... must not be the command i wanted
[08:51] <Daverto> I cant get my copy of ubuntu to install
[08:51] <mnepton> Jesse1984: you *sure*. no stupid "cable select?"
[08:51] <JoshIRL> !questionmark
[08:51] <JoshIRL> lol
[08:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about questionmark - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <JoshIRL> :shrugs:
[08:51] <ChocoCid> there's something that says "don't ask to ask your question, just ask the question"
[08:51] <AWOSDev> ChocoCid what are you trying to do
[08:51] <AWOSDev> !ask
[08:51] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:51] <ChocoCid> ah ok
[08:51] <AWOSDev> :)
[08:51] <ChocoCid> ;p
[08:51] <JoshIRL> So, if i have a dns problem, what's that mean?
[08:51] <JoshIRL> :s
[08:51] <Jesse1984> yeh im sure, 10gb maxtor on master and 10.2gb seagate on slave, it shows that way in the bios too..
[08:51] <mnepton> don't axe to axe. just axe.
[08:51] <AWOSDev> !dns
[08:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <ChocoCid> holy hell, folding @ home takes all kinds of memory..
[08:52] <mnepton> JoshIRL: did you try those 2 things?
[08:52] <ChocoCid> well, i'm more concerned about the cpu usage, but meh
[08:52] <ChocoCid> it's holding me steady at 90%+ all the time :/
[08:52] <Jesse1984> ok, busybox is up, the error is this: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[08:52] <JoshIRL> No, i'm here trying to get all the awnsers i need before i drag the modem back there haha
[08:52] <ChocoCid> JoshIRL : dns problem means you need to update your dns, or your web provider does
[08:52] <mnepton> JoshIRL: well, why spend time answering "how do i fix dns?" until we know if it's indeed broken?
[08:53] <ChocoCid> if your dns is working in here, it's not the provider's issue, it's probably a firefox setting issue
[08:53] <JoshIRL> i was asking was dns meant
[08:53] <JoshIRL> :p
[08:53] <AWOSDev> Or a ifconfig problem
[08:53] <AWOSDev> Domain Name Service
[08:53] <JoshIRL> or rather .. eh nvm
[08:53] <ChocoCid> well, no, he can get repositories to work
[08:53] <Normal> I just tried to boot the Edgy Beta CD, but it freezes. Dapper froze too, untill I started with Breezy and upgraded to it. The 2.6.15 kernels refuse to load. I can only boot with 2.6.12....Does this mean that Edgy Final isn't going to work for me too?
[08:53] <ChocoCid> dns is basicaly lwhat converts urls to ip addresses
[08:53] <JoshIRL> Yeah
[08:53] <ChocoCid> like "bob smith" to "555-5555"
[08:53] <JoshIRL> i installed a few things, updates and vlc player
[08:53] <AWOSDev> ChocoCid, good analogy
[08:54] <ChocoCid> try installing a different browser while you're at it if those don't work- try opera, or lynx even :P
[08:54] <mnepton> JoshIRL: DNS = domain name services. turing raw ip numbers into name addresses. so you don;t have to type 231.23.55.121 to go to wankpants.org
[08:54] <AWOSDev> w3m
[08:54] <ChocoCid> ...
[08:54] <JoshIRL> haha
[08:54] <JoshIRL> alright
[08:54] <wrabbit> what's the command to apt-get install the kde desktop?  apt-get install kde-desktop?
[08:54] <ChocoCid> Firefox can't find the server at www.wankpants.org.
[08:54] <ChocoCid> kubuntu-desktop
[08:54] <ChocoCid> but yeah
[08:54] <JoshIRL> haha
[08:54] <Normal> Oh, and since I can't use 2.6.15, I can't use Nvidia-glx.....Is there anything I can do ?
[08:54] <AWOSDev> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:55] <mnepton> ChocoCid: why did you add the www. ? :P
[08:55] <wrabbit> ah, AWOSDev, thanks.
[08:55] <ChocoCid> i didn't, firefox did automatically
[08:55] <Daverto> my ubuntu is just downloaded tonight wont onstall on my computer and I need someone to help me
[08:55] <ChocoCid> Daverto : what exactly is hte problem?
[08:55] <wrabbit> what's the matter Dave
[08:56] <AWOSDev> wrabbit no problem :)
[08:56] <mnepton> ChocoCid: thought you used Swiftfox. more lies! you are exposed as *the fraud that you are*!
[08:56] <ChocoCid> ...oh hell no, folding @ home won't conclude *this job* until december? screw that. *deletes*
[08:56] <mnepton> uhhh ... anyone seen my meds?
[08:56] <AWOSDev> ChocoCid December?  really?
[08:56] <Normal> Bah!
[08:56] <ChocoCid> XD
[08:56] <ChocoCid> yeah
[08:56] <Daverto> well im able to lad it up to when it tries to start gnome then it just stops
[08:56] <tonyyarusso> Can I set up different monitors to have my "workspaces"?
[08:56] <ChocoCid> Current Work Unit
[08:56] <ChocoCid> -----------------
[08:56] <ChocoCid> Name: p2800_jrz_apo
[08:56] <ChocoCid> Download time: October 7 06:43:39
[08:56] <ChocoCid> Due time: December 4 06:43:39
[08:56] <AWOSDev> ew
[08:56] <ChocoCid> :\
[08:56] <AWOSDev> Dec 4 of what year though :P
[08:56] <AWOSDev> 2008?
[08:56] <AWOSDev> 2009?  :)
[08:56] <ChocoCid> i am not letting it use up 90%+ of my cpu for the next three months
[08:56] <Jesse1984> Can anyone help with this? ...busybox is up, the error is this: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off ??
[08:57] <Daverto> am i using a live CD
[08:57] <wrabbit> ChocoCid: Are you folding?
[08:57] <mnepton> Jesse1984: how is the hard drive connected to the mobo?
[08:58] <peterretief> hi all, is there a command to find out the motherboard info
[08:58] <wrabbit> ChocoCid: You know it uses idle cpu time right?
[08:58] <Jesse1984> via ide master
[08:58] <mnepton> Jesse1984: PATA? SATA? which channel?
[08:58] <ChocoCid> yeah
[08:58] <Daverto> the iso name is ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso
[08:59] <ChocoCid> i know what it does, but it using *that much* of it is a bit ridiculous :[
[08:59] <ChocoCid> makes my comp laggy a bit
[08:59] <mnepton> ChocoCid: use nice
[08:59] <ChocoCid> i'll pass :P
[08:59] <ChocoCid> if they don't have it smart enough to not hog my computer, i'm not giving them any of it :P
[08:59] <Jesse1984> mnepton: PATA primary channel, and i have tried it on secondary channel, master and slave
[08:59] <ChocoCid> i even went through advanced options when i turned it on
[09:00] <wrabbit> ChocoCid: That's odd.  You shouldn't even notice it's there. Are you sure there isn't anything else running in the background?
[09:00] <mnepton> Jesse1984: you can;t just move the drive from channel to channel and master to slave and expect GRUB to be happy.
[09:00] <ChocoCid> wrabbit : i can tell the differnece just from turning it off
[09:00] <ChocoCid> so yeah, i'm sure
[09:00] <Jesse1984> mnepton: is there a way to wipe the drive clean and reset grub and re install?
[09:00] <wrabbit> odd
[09:00] <mnepton> Jesse1984: get the IDE stuff the way you want it. then boot from a Live CD and use it to modify your GRUB settings. you can find extensive documentation for this.
[09:01] <Daverto> help plz
[09:01] <AWOSDev> How do I reinstall something
[09:01] <AWOSDev> without apt-get uninstall
[09:02] <AWOSDev> I just want to refresh it
[09:02] <AWOSDev> it's like apt-get reconfigure
[09:02] <AWOSDev> or something like that but how do I do that?
[09:02] <Taigrr> Hello there, fello ubuntu users! I have a quick question...
[09:02] <Jesse1984> mnepton: i have booted from the lice CD and tried to re-install from there but it just shuts the PC down half way through the install, but im guessing you're talking about something different..
[09:02] <AWOSDev> Taigrr what?
[09:02] <wrabbit> Taigrr: Would've been quicker if you'd just asked it :P
[09:03] <AWOSDev> Jesse1984, well get the lice off of the disc :P
[09:03] <Guidan> hi, i use knoppix live cd, can some 1 tell me why its not detecting my wireless card.?
[09:03] <ChocoCid> apt-get install programname --reinstall
[09:03] <wrabbit> Guidan: Not sure because this isn't the knoppix channel but have you tried using ndiswrapper?
[09:03] <AWOSDev> ChocoCid thanks
[09:03] <AWOSDev> Guidan, try a knoppix channel
[09:04] <Taigrr> Seems as though my laptop has an AC '97 card, they said Generic, but someone before said Realtech.  Is there any idea how to get the sound working? Maybe a driver or something..
[09:04] <AWOSDev> Guidan, this is for *Ubuntu* Linux
[09:04] <Jesse1984> AWOSDev: funny? ..so i boot into live and then configure grub for my current ide setup? correct?
[09:04] <wrabbit> or yeah, it's probably better to try in #knoppix if there is one
[09:04] <AWOSDev> Jesse1984 yes that's right
[09:04] <AWOSDev> Guidan, try /join #knoppix
[09:04] <stonarmusic> sometimes my desktop icons appear on top of each other, why is that. usually it's me ipod icon over an icon of my room mates smb share
[09:04] <Guidan> wrabbit, yes, i came here asking to see if ubuntu will work with my card , another guy told me to try live cd first
[09:04] <Jesse1984> ok ill try, thankyou :)
[09:05] <Daverto> may i get some help
[09:05] <Daverto> i want to install umbutu but i dont know how to
[09:05] <AWOSDev> types
[09:05] <AWOSDev> s/types/yipes
[09:06] <AWOSDev> it's reinstalling kde-core
[09:06] <Guidan> wrabbut: would ubuntu support my card?
[09:06] <AWOSDev> this is scary
[09:06] <Guidan> i just bought a linksy wirless g
[09:06] <AWOSDev> well that didn't work
[09:06] <AWOSDev> shoot
[09:06] <AWOSDev> Guidan, WPC54G?
[09:06] <wrabbit> Daverto: Put in the CD and it should boot up Gnome with two icons.  One says examples and the other says install
[09:06] <wrabbit> click install
[09:06] <AWOSDev> WPC54G v3 or v4?
[09:06] <Taigrr> Seems as though my laptop has an AC '97 card, they said Generic, but someone before said Realtech.  Is there any idea how to get the sound working? Maybe a driver or something..
[09:06] <AWOSDev> Guidan, if it is v3 no :(
[09:07] <Daverto> i dont get that far gnome wont load
[09:07] <Guidan> wpc54gx4
[09:07] <AWOSDev> v4 might
[09:07] <AWOSDev> anyway
[09:07] <AWOSDev> I need to go to #kubuntu
[09:07] <Guidan> whats v3 or v4?
[09:07] <AWOSDev> I have KDE troubles
[09:07] <AWOSDev> where it says "gx4" - I have "gx3" and it doesn't work
[09:07] <AWOSDev> it's the revision number
[09:07] <wrabbit> Daverto: Where does it get to?
[09:07] <Guidan> dman knoppix is dead.
[09:07] <Guidan> damn*
[09:07] <AWOSDev> !language
[09:07] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:08] <wrabbit> Daverto: and is there an error message?
[09:08] <Guidan> sorry
[09:08] <Daverto> it gets to where i can see that is says that it launches gnome- then my screen flashes and i have two squares pop up
[09:08] <Daverto> thats it
[09:08] <Guidan> i got 2 wirless in my laptop
[09:08] <Daverto> i just got the CD tonight
[09:09] <wrabbit> Daverto: Did you download it or have it sent to you?
[09:09] <Daverto> download
[09:09] <wrabbit> Daverto: Be sure to set a slow burn speed when burning isos like this.  Maybe it was a dodgy burn.
[09:10] <Daverto> but with my iso recorder i cant change the burn speed
[09:10] <Guidan> wrabbit my other card is : atheros ar500 g5
[09:10] <Guidan> would it work
[09:10] <Daverto> never mind
[09:10] <tonyyarusso> !wifi
[09:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:10] <Daverto> i found it
[09:11] <Daverto> 1xslow enough
[09:11] <wrabbit> Guidan: None of them should work unless you get the right drivers that're compatible with both ubuntu and ndiswrapper.  Then again, there is also a site that provides linux drivers for specific cards.  I can't remember where that is though
[09:12] <Daverto> burning now ill try again
[09:12] <wrabbit> Guidan: for instance, I had to use the win 2000 drivers with this netgear card because the xp drivers wouldn't work
[09:12] <wrabbit> good luck Daverto.  report back if it doesn't work
[09:12] <Guidan> oh
[09:12] <Daverto> i will
[09:13] <Guidan> i try using ndiswrapper for both , didnt work for both
[09:14] <Guidan> does ubuntu has live cd?
[09:14] <wrabbit> Guidan: have you had a look at the ubuntu forums?  Do a search for your card there and something may come up
[09:14] <highvoltage> I see Firefox RC2 is released. Is it likely to be inluded in Edgy?
[09:15] <highvoltage> or will the earlier beta's be used?
[09:15] <elmargol> maybe iceweasel?
[09:17] <timo> Is there any shorter way to install multimedia codecs, plug-ins, java and so on into 5.10?
[09:17] <tonyyarusso> !easyubuntu
[09:17] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[09:17] <wrabbit> automatix timo but I wouldn't use it
[09:18] <wrabbit> wow, that's handy
[09:18] <wrabbit> !automatix
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[09:18] <timo> thanks, that was almost in my mind
[09:18] <wrabbit> nice
[09:18] <kon> could someone help me edit my xorg.conf to get my monitor working with my laptop?
[09:19] <BeepAU> Any gamers in here? I downloaded Nexuiz, but I can't see how to install it.
[09:20] <tonyyarusso> What's this?  !automatix doesn't read like Revelations any more?
[09:21] <ChocoCid> !easyubuntu
[09:21] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[09:21] <theunruled> ok
[09:22] <theunruled> whoever told me about bitlbee, i love u
[09:22] <wrabbit> !bitlbee
[09:23] <ubotu> bitlbee: An IRC to other chat networks gateway. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-1 (dapper), package size 291 kB, installed size 756 kB
[09:23] <wrabbit> what is it?
[09:23] <Ademan> is there any way for me to get the latest version of inkscape?
[09:23] <mnepton> IM to irssi gateway
[09:23] <wrabbit> ah sweet
[09:24] <Spudulike> I am looking for some help installing the eagle-usb drivers and how to install modules.  Can I just install the module-source package with synaptic and expect it to work?
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> Spudulike: you can expect it to work, chances are, it wont :)
[09:27] <mnepton> ahoy fyrestrtr
[09:27] <Spudulike> fyrestrtr, Ah, well, it doesn't. So, what do I do now?
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> Spudulike: first thing you should do it check the wiki and the forums to see if somone has already done this
[09:29] <mnepton> Spudulike: you need to compile the module against the current kernel, and either compile the module into the base kernel, or load it dynamically at boot. the latter is probably preferable to make upgrading easier.
[09:29] <mnepton> Spudulike: compiling kernel modules and loading them is well documented. just take your time and read everything twice. :)
[09:29] <Spudulike> Ah, time, wish I had time.  Thanks.
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> Spudulike: man module-assistant :)
[09:30] <Spudulike> Sorry, that cam over a bit terse. I do really mean thanks.
[09:31] <Spudulike> fyrestrtr, I've actually tried mod-ass but that also comes up with an error. My lack of knowledge on module (and kernel) compilation is becoming obvious.
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> Spudulike: one hint I can give you is to look at the documentation about compiling the video modules, the process is the same.
[09:34] <Spudulike> The mod-ass log file doesn't give me enough info to chase down the problem, just reports a file name and 'Error 1' or 'Error 2'.
[09:34] <fyrestrtr> Spudulike: not all modules can be installed with m-a, if yours can, then you are in luck. If not, then you'll have to do it the "old" way.
[09:35] <Nothing_About> Hey can anyone here help me
[09:35] <Nothing_About> out with a problem
[09:35] <Nothing_About> Anyone here
[09:35] <Nothing_About> >>>><<<<<
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> Spudulike: old way is -- grab the linux kernel source, grab the source of the module, install build-essentials, build/compile the module, then modload it and hope it works :)
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> !anyone
[09:35] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:35] <Spudulike> The Debian readme in the Eagle-usb package suugests mod-ass.  I was hoping this would work for Ubuntu too.
[09:35] <Nothing_About> hey
[09:35] <Nothing_About> i need help
[09:35] <Nothing_About> with ubuntu
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> Spudulike: it should.
[09:36] <Nothing_About> Fyrestrtr
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> Nothing_About: just ask your question. We can't guess what your problem is.
[09:36] <Nothing_About> can you help me out plz
[09:36] <Nothing_About> ok
[09:36] <Nothing_About> how do i start ubuntu live cd
[09:36] <Nothing_About> from my computer
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> reboot your computer with the livecd in the drive, and make sure you computer is set to boot from the cdrom.
[09:36] <Ademan> put it in the cd drive, restart, and enter the boot menu, then select to boot from the CD drive
[09:36] <Nothing_About> ive started it up just as soon as i turnd on my comp
[09:36] <Spudulike> Nothing_About, insert disk into drive and reset the machine.
[09:37] <Nothing_About> ok
[09:37] <Nothing_About> no boot menu
[09:37] <Nothing_About> yeh
[09:37] <Nothing_About> ok this is what has happend
[09:37] <Ademan> can i get the latest version of inkscape any way other than installing from source?
[09:37] <pradeep> Nothing_About, make sure you boot from CD
[09:37] <Nothing_About> ok i boot from cd
[09:37] <Nothing_About> and the only menus ive seen
[09:37] <Nothing_About> was Install ubuntu
[09:37] <Nothing_About> something safe graphic mod
[09:37] <Nothing_About> and the other menus
[09:38] <Nothing_About> and i thought live cd was safe graphic mod
[09:38] <fyrestrtr> Nothing_About: if you leave the cd alone (don't pick an option) it will boot into the livecd.
[09:38] <Nothing_About> and it started booting
[09:38] <Nothing_About> oh
[09:38] <Nothing_About> dam
[09:38] <Nothing_About> so what happens if i did press on an option
[09:38] <pradeep> Nothing_About, yep, click on Install ubuntu .. it won't install ubuntu .. it would boot into live CD
[09:38] <Nothing_About> like safe graphic mod
[09:38] <fyrestrtr> Nothing_About: the livecd is the first option. Please don't use the enter key as punctuation. Form a complete thought and type it out.
[09:38] <Monk> hi all.
[09:38] <Nothing_About> ok
[09:38] <Nothing_About> so what should i do
[09:38] <pradeep> hi Monk
[09:39] <TomaszD> hello, I'd like to install edgy beta on my laptop, but the hdd is only 10GB. How much space should I give for the root partition? 3gb?
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> Nothing_About: just reboot and wait till you see the gnome desktop.
[09:39] <Monk> I hope someone here will be able to help me.
[09:39] <Nothing_About> oh and since i pressed the ubuntu safe graphic , will it harm my computer in any way
[09:39] <Nothing_About> that i have not spoted yet
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> Nothing_About: no
[09:39] <Guidan> how do i know what chipset my wireless card uses?
[09:39] <Nothing_About> ok good
[09:39] <Spudulike> fyrestrtr, I did try a manual compile of this module, but that gave errors.  Trying with mod-ass does give a warning of the driver being on the system and suggests I run 'make uninstall'.  I can
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> Guidan: check the output of lspci -vv
[09:39] <odyssevs> TomaszD, I used 5 gig for mine, but 3 should be fine.
[09:39] <Spudulike> I can't see 'make uninstall' in the package.  Should it be there?
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> Spudulike: if it says that, then it seems your module is already there?
[09:40] <Daverto> my computer still has the problem of not wanting to install
[09:40] <Nothing_About> ok so what i should do is put the cd in boot up my computer , and then leave it and it will go into live CD from their on
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> Nothing_About: yes
[09:40] <ViGGi> it takes 30 secs ;)
[09:40] <Monk> I have next problem:
[09:40] <Monk> I have ext3 filesystem with filenames created in windows by ext2ifs. the problem is that filenames were created in local codepage, not in UTF-8, and are all screwed up. How can I mount this filesystem to see filenames? or convert them to UTF-8?
[09:40] <Monk> convmv doesn't work, it says filenames are not in cp1251...
[09:40] <TomaszD> odyssevs, I'm using 3gb for dapper there now, I was thinking of shaving a few hundred megs, space is preciouss when you have such a small hdd...
[09:40] <Nothing_About> ok is there a way i could emulate that live cd boot From windows ?
[09:40] <odyssevs> TomaszD, you'll want another partition for linux-swap as well, about 300 megs is more than enough (how much ram have you? about 256?)
[09:40] <TomaszD> but then again I *will* be messing with -dev packages and compiling
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> Monk: re-mount the filesystem with the correct codepage option.
[09:40] <TomaszD> odyssevs, 360MB RAM
[09:41] <fyrestrtr> Nothing_About: no.
[09:41] <Nothing_About> ok
[09:41] <Monk> fyrestrtr: how? i tried nls=cp1251 in fstab, but it doesn't mount
[09:41] <odyssevs> TomaszD, replacement drives are cheap and easily inserted.
[09:41] <Nothing_About> so ill just go and live cd right now
[09:41] <Nothing_About> leave it alone and it wont boot into windows am i right
[09:41] <TomaszD> odyssevs, yes I actually am a computer technician working in a computer shop and I do these things daily :)
[09:42] <Daverto> My computer will not install ubuntu it still has the same problem
[09:42] <TomaszD> but 2,5' drives don't come cheap.
[09:42] <TomaszD> :P
[09:42] <Spudulike> Nothing_About, yes, if you have your cd set to a boot device!
[09:42] <MTecknology> When I try to uninstall vmware player, i get this error...(E: vmware-player: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1) how do i fix?
[09:42] <Nothing_About> pl
[09:42] <Nothing_About> ok
[09:42] <Spudulike> Nothing_About, you might need to change that in the bios.
[09:42] <odyssevs> TomaszD, good =) You'll be fine with 3 gb. I run a network server which does mail/web, fully installed, no x, only 710 mb so far.
[09:42] <Nothing_About> to my cd rom boot device
[09:42] <Nothing_About> yeh it works when i put cd in my comp
[09:43] <Nothing_About> and ubuntu loads up its menus
[09:43] <Nothing_About> i presed the wrong menu for ubuntu live cd
[09:43] <TomaszD> odyssevs, I see that without too much messing I'm left with 600mb on the 3gb root partition with dapper, so I was just curious if the requirements have gone up a bit
[09:43] <TomaszD> I could sacrifice a few megs for speed =)
[09:43] <Nothing_About> brb
[09:43] <skwashd> hi all
[09:44] <pradeep> hello skwashd
[09:44] <skwashd> i am trying to install 6.06.1 on a sunfire t2000
[09:44] <skwashd> and it keeps on dying when trying to start the partitioner
[09:44] <Monk> I have ext3 filesystem with filenames created in windows by ext2ifs. the problem is that filenames were created in local codepage, not in UTF-8, and are all screwed up. How can I mount this filesystem to see filenames? or convert them to UTF-8?
[09:44] <Monk> convmv doesn't work, it says filenames are not in cp1251...
[09:44] <TomaszD> odyssevs, anyway, thanks for help, bye
[09:44] <skwashd> hi pradeep
[09:44] <skwashd> any ideas?
[09:44] <odyssevs> TomaszD, I've just moved into ubuntu from debian myself so no idea what the usual numbers are.
[09:44] <robert_> bah
[09:45] <Daverto> May I please recive some help, my computer does not want to install ubuntu
[09:45] <MTecknology> When I try to uninstall vmware player, i get this error...(E: vmware-player: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1) how do i fix it??
[09:45] <skwashd> checked the forums ... and i can only find someting from may this year ... unresolved .. with an ubuntu flame at the end
[09:45] <odyssevs> Daverto, oh? Where does she stop?
[09:45] <MTecknology> oops, sry for repost
[09:46] <fyrestrtr> Monk: I don't know, sorry. I thought I saw an option in mount for it, but its not for ext fstype.
[09:46] <odyssevs> MTecknology, you're doing it as sudo?
[09:46] <MTecknology> yea
[09:46] <Daverto> IT says that it is launching gnome and then it only gives two white rectangles on a black screen
[09:46] <Monk> fyrestrtr: thank you] 
[09:46] <fyrestrtr> Monk: try passing it codepage=
[09:46] <fyrestrtr> Monk: could work.
[09:47] <Monk> ok ill try
[09:47] <fyrestrtr> Monk: they are probably windows-1252
[09:47] <Monk> may be
[09:47] <odyssevs> MTecknology, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=264393
[09:48] <Monk> fyrestrtr: says "bad option"
[09:50] <skwashd> i tried looking on malone ... but i am sorry malone is completely useless unless you know exactly what package the bug is in ... and you have a PhD in launchpad navigation
[09:50] <fyrestrtr> yeah, because as I suspected, its not a valid option for ext3
[09:50] <odyssevs> Daverto, possibly http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-88019.html
[09:51] <MTecknology> odyssevs, link wasn't useful
[09:51] <MTecknology> odyssevs, I try to uninstall the vmware-payer and it uninstalls the two dependencies, but not the vmware-player, then it seems to try to reinstall and has an error code 1
[09:51] <pradeep> skwashd, did you check the CD integrity? md5 sum
[09:52] <skwashd> pradeep: i did before i burnt it
[09:52] <janitor_x> hello
[09:52] <skwashd> pradeep: i don't think i would be attempting an install on a t2000 without some basic admin skills ;)
[09:53] <Daverto> I dont even get to any user interface lea alone a login screen
[09:54] <janitor_x> im trying to install lm_sensors 2.10.1 but theres an output "No rule to make target `sysfs/libsysfs.h', needed by `lib/sysfs.ad'" when i execute "make user"
[09:54] <janitor_x> any help please?
[09:54] <Daverto> do i need to use the non-graphical interface
[09:55] <Daverto> if so i need code lines
[09:55] <Daverto> to install
[09:56] <jwerd> I was here earlier under the name "leroy" and I was wondering if anyone has a working guide on how to get XGL working Dapper and ATi :)
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> jwerd: I have it working here, using the guide at compiz.net forums.
[09:57] <|thunder> jwerd; ask in #beryl
[09:57] <pradeep> skwashd, by dying do you mean it crashes or it hangs?
[09:57] <jwerd> alright :) compiz.net ?
[09:57] <skwashd> pradeep: hangs
[09:57] <skwashd> comes up "starting partitioner" goes blue ... then nothing
[09:57] <wrabbit> If I've setup the /home as one partition... this includes everything in home, correct?  users etc
[09:58] <skwashd> wrabbit: should do
[09:58] <wrabbit> skwashd: thanks
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> wrabbit: all files in the user's home directories, for all users on the system.
[09:58] <MTecknology> odyssevs, http://pastebin.com/801812
[09:58] <|thunder> wrabbit; ya. but any extra users will have to be added by hand after reformat, but their home dir will still be intavt
[09:58] <|thunder> *intact
[09:59] <wrabbit> I'm just curious because my user folder /home/wrabbit has a heap of stuff in it.  If I reinstall and set /home not to be formatted, I'd like to know I wouldn't lose anything
[10:00] <skwashd> wrabbit: that is right
[10:00] <skwashd> just make sure you add the user wrabbit
[10:00] <MTecknology> I need help removing vmware-player - - http://pastebin.com/801812
[10:00] <skwashd> wrabbit: but as always ... make backups first
[10:00] <wrabbit> skwashd: and when would I have to add it? after the os is installed?
[10:01] <wrabbit> I'm a little confused about that
[10:01] <skwashd> wrabbit: you should be able to create it when asked during the install
[10:01] <|thunder> wrabbit; ive done it a million times. works like a charm
[10:01] <wrabbit> ah right.  ok.... I think I get the idea, thanks
[10:01] <skwashd> if ls -ldn /home/wrabbit shows 1000 as the owner's id
[10:01] <|thunder> just set /home to that partition and no format any time you want to reformat /
[10:02] <PapaPItufo> hello
[10:02] <skwashd> wrabbit: it should similar to this ... drwxr-xr-x 189 1000 1000 13784 2006-10-07 16:40 /home/wrabbit
[10:02] <PapaPItufo> how do I mount a share as if it were local?
[10:02] <fyrestrtr> PapaPItufo: what kind of share?
[10:02] <skwashd> PapaPItufo: a samba share ?
[10:02] <wrabbit> that's what I've done |thunder.  I tested it by putting /home/hi and reinstalling and that worked.  I wish I'd tested a few files in /home/wrabbit/ before I did it htough
[10:02] <wrabbit> I'll try that now skwashd
[10:03] <PapaPItufo> fyrestrtr: a network share. an SMB share.
[10:03] <|thunder> wrabbit; it works fine, your home stuffs will still be there
[10:03] <fyrestrtr> PapaPItufo: smbmount
[10:04] <PapaPItufo> fyrestrtr: I can see it from Konqueror at smb://192....
[10:04] <wrabbit> skwashd: yes, it says something like that
[10:04] <skwashd> |thunder: checking the uidNumber is a good idea ... chmowning is a pita
[10:04] <PapaPItufo> fyrestrtr: K3B won-t let me burn from an ISO image that is not local
[10:04] <wrabbit> |thunder: cool, thanks.  I'm new to partitioning so this is kinda good to know
[10:04] <skwashd> wrabbit: go go dapper reinstaller :)
[10:04] <fyrestrtr> PapaPItufo: copy it then.
[10:05] <wrabbit> hah
[10:05] <PapaPItufo> fyrestrtr: I have no local space left
[10:05] <skwashd> PapaPItufo: then burn a CDs worth
[10:05] <skwashd> delete it
[10:05] <pradeep> skwashd, looks like there's some issue with partitioning https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Sparc
[10:05] <skwashd> copy the iso over
[10:05] <skwashd> burn it
[10:05] <skwashd> restore from CD1 :)
[10:05] <pradeep> scrool down to 'Installer Options'
[10:06] <fyrestrtr> PapaPItufo: use smbmount
[10:06] <skwashd> pradeep: thanks heaps
[10:06] <skwashd> i had been looking but kept on coming up with usless info
[10:06] <avagant> Guys, how do I list all the mounted devices from the command line?
[10:06] <vlade33> when i try to install ubuntu on my desktop i run into a problem with my monitor... it just shows a bunch of lines and that's it.. i can't see anything.. this is when the cd boots and i go to install.. it goes through everything but when it loads i can't see anything.. i have two monitors and same stuff happens with both.. can someone please help me !
[10:06] <PapaPItufo> fyrestrtr: K3B wont let me burn unless it feels the file is local. But I cannot copy it locally because I have no space left. So I want to fool K3B by mounting the network share at a lower level (say fstab) to fool it into thinking it is local. Will smbmount do that?
[10:06] <wickedpuppy> avagant, mount
[10:07] <avagant> and that lists them all, how much how much space they have left?
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> PapaPItufo: yes.
[10:07] <wickedpuppy> avagant, df -h
[10:07] <avagant> you are the best.
[10:07] <avagant> it worked! i did it right this time!
[10:08] <vlade33> help!
[10:08] <PapaPItufo> fyrestrtr: great! now I will go 'man smbmount' then
[10:08] <avagant> I need a ciggarette now.
[10:08] <Rookie_> get a whisky ;)
[10:08] <avagant> wickedpuppy I had to ask because I totally just had to reinstall my system because of something I did earlier.
[10:08] <avagant> How do I change permission on the mounted drive?
[10:08] <StAfZe6> you tell me
[10:08] <avagant> to ME.
[10:09] <Rookie_> best way to learn is to make mistakes ;)
[10:09] <wickedpuppy> avagant, okie ...
[10:09] <avagant> I've made enough of those.
[10:09] <Rookie_> hehe
[10:09] <vlade33> can some1 help me with that monitor issue ? please..
[10:09] <avagant> I don't think I want to tell you how many times I've reinstalled Ubuntu in the past 2 weeks.
[10:10] <Rookie_> ohh, i know that kind of things ... to well ...
[10:10] <skwashd> pradeep: thanks ... i was trying to use the server installer
[10:10] <odyssevs> avagant, wtf do you keep doing to it? =)
[10:10] <|thunder> avagant; i did the same exact thing at first. now i love it.
[10:10] <jon_> how do i find out what version of the nvidia drivers i am using?
[10:10] <fyrestrtr> vlade33: what video card do you have?
[10:10] <pradeep> skwashd, that doesn't apply to you?
[10:10] <avagant> ok but seriously how to i change permissions/owner of that file?
[10:10] <vlade33> nvidia 6800
[10:10] <fyrestrtr> jon_: glxinfo will tell you
[10:10] <jon_> thank you, fyrestrtr
[10:10] <fyrestrtr> vlade33: are you running nvidia drivers, or nv drivers?
[10:10] <skwashd> pradeep: it doesn't ... but it seems simpler :)
[10:11] <skwashd> pradeep: i will see how i go with it
[10:11] <vlade33> i didn't even get to install drivers.. i just booted from the cd.. and after it loaded .. monitor went crazy..
[10:12] <vlade33> i was just able to see bunch of lines..
[10:12] <odyssevs> avagant, do you want to change permissions for a whole drive or what?
[10:12] <avagant> yah
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> vlade33: what kind of monitor is it?
[10:12] <pradeep> skwashd, you could file a bug report maybe the partitioner is not working
[10:12] <avagant> because the drive is an extra 10gb i mounted.
[10:12] <avagant> 10gb hd
[10:12] <vlade33> i have two dell monitors.. one lcd one crt..
[10:12] <avagant> I've done it before, but I completely forgot :)
[10:13] <skwashd> pradeep: i will ... but first i want to get this running ... but now i need to setup an anonymous ftp server ... grrr! :(
[10:13] <Rookie_> i wouldnt change the whole drive (hdd) - i would create a map and give the map the user permission ....
[10:13] <avagant> well really the only person who's going to use it is me.
[10:13] <killaz> hi guys I have problem watching a dvd on my pc...
[10:13] <killaz> the dvd plays ok..
[10:14] <killaz> but it looks like it keeps skipping jumping around
[10:14] <avagant> i've searched for the answer to the mounting problem i had for the past 3 hours, seriously.
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> vlade33: which is the primary? the lcd or the crt?
[10:14] <killaz> for example it plays at 00:33::45 and then it goes to 00:18:67 and then to 00:03:34
[10:14] <Rookie_> chown user.username /dir
[10:14] <odyssevs> He wants to apply that to a whole drive.
[10:14] <mnepton> s/./:/
[10:14] <Rookie_> ehh, chown users.username /dir
[10:14] <odyssevs> And anyway, he'll probably want -R as well.
[10:14] <vlade33> fyrestrtr: for win...crt..but i also tried to only use one .. and unplug the other one.. but still no deal..
[10:14] <avagant> so how do i set that up? haha
[10:14] <mnepton> sudo chown -R user:group /foo/bar
[10:15] <nobody_lv> chown -R user:username /dir
[10:15] <nobody_lv> hehe
[10:15] <avagant> so it would be chown -R skt:skt /media/hdb1
[10:15] <vlade33> fyrestrtr: this also happened with fedora.. however i was able to install suse with no prob.
[10:15] <vlade33> but i want ubuntu now :) and i really need to fix this prob.
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> vlade33: okay, by default, only one monitor will work. If you have nvidia, chances are you are using the 'nv' drivers. Plug the LCD into the primary port on your card, reboot the machine. On reboot, you'll see mirror images on both screens. Tell me how far you get this way. Do you get to the logon screen?
[10:15] <mnepton> avagant: and the mount point, as well (e.g. /media/my_disk)
[10:16] <mnepton> avagant: and sudo is critical
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> vlade33: I have dual monitors running with nvidia -- its possible :)
[10:16] <avagant> would it be the mount point and the original point?
[10:16] <pradeep> skwashd, good luck :)
[10:16] <avagant> or just the mount point?
[10:16] <romans5n1> more than once, apt-get has returned errors that it can't find packages that are supposed to be available through the repository... is there something I'm doing wrong?
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> avagant: why don't you just remount it with uid=1000,gid=1000 ?
[10:16] <odyssevs> romans5n1, try apt-get clean
[10:16] <avagant> Because I'm lazy?
[10:16] <avagant> Haha
[10:16] <avagant> It took me long enough to mount it.
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> romans5n1: maybe you didn't add the universe and multiverse repos?
[10:17] <mnepton> avagant: correct. and this is assuming that 10GB is ext2/3 or something else Unix-ish. not NTFS/FAT*
[10:17] <vlade33> fyrestrtr: i don't even see the loging screen.. but let me restart and try it again .. and i'll brb if it works/doesn't work
[10:17] <avagant> mnepton So it would be both points or the mount point?
[10:17] <warpzone> pardon, has anybody gotten root-tail or root-portal to work in Gnome? Its giving me hell :-P
[10:17] <avagant> chown --R skt:skt /media/hdb1 /dev/hdb1?
[10:18] <odyssevs> one hyphen. and he said "as well"
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> avagant: ermm, what tha heck is that?
[10:18] <mnepton> avagant: to do anything with the volume the mount point must be owned correctly, or you should remount with the correct uid:gid. if the filesystem on that drive is Unix-like, you'll need to change all the stuff on there, too.
[10:18] <PapaPItufo> fyrestrtr: I bow myself to you.
[10:18] <odyssevs> avagant, and put the next dir on a new line (with chown etc etc)
[10:18] <romans5n1> odyssevs: just did that... didn't output anything, but didn't give an error either... still can't find the package, though
[10:18] <tonyyarusso> How can I set mount options for removable devices not controlled by fstab?
[10:18] <wrabbit> honestly, I don't know how some of you can remember all these commands with the -h and the +R and all that stuff.
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> tonyyarusso: fiddle with udev options.
[10:19] <odyssevs> romans5n1, cat /etc/apt/sources.list and paste to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:19] <zool2005> morning all,
[10:19] <avagant> Sweet, it worked.
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> wrabbit: pwactice :)
[10:19] <PapaPItufo> fyrestrtr: indeed, the full command wassmbmount '//path.to.network.share' '/local/mount/point'ormount -t smbfs '//path.to.network.share' '/local/mount/point'
[10:19] <wrabbit> fyrestrtr:  and lots of it I'm guessing
[10:19] <avagant> wrabbit It takes alot, I knew the -R command because I accidently -R my /usr/bin file and lost sudo.
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> wrabbit: yeap.
[10:19] <tonyyarusso> fyrestrtr: Where are those?
[10:19] <odyssevs> Daverto, ask here again please.
[10:19] <warpzone> wrabbit it comes with time, I've been using nix for a few months and it gets easier and easier
[10:19] <avagant> So I had to go into grub and take my permissions away.
[10:19] <wrabbit> fyrestrtr: I'm trying to learn Python aswell.  Hard to learn two different 'languages'
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> tonyyarusso: not sure -- but atleast you know what to look for now.
[10:20] <warpzone> wrabbit now I loves me some terminal
[10:20] <zool2005> I need advice : should I get a pcmcia ethernet card or a usb ethernet adapter for my old advent 400MHz Laptop? Does anyone have any experience with either on Dapper? Thanks
[10:20] <wrabbit> :)
[10:20] <avagant> I got on a Windows machine, and used the command line there hahaha.
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> wrabbit: for python, grab the two Orielly books, and start making friends in #python.
[10:20] <avagant> I didn't even use any programs, just played around with the prompt.
[10:20] <mnepton> zool2005: PCMCIA. get something supported by MadWiFi. you in the US?
[10:20] <tonyyarusso> fyrestrtr: A very good start.  Thanks.
[10:20] <wrabbit> Using XP at uni, I ended up trying to ls everything
[10:20] <avagant> hahaha
[10:21] <avagant> I loves me some aterm and xterm myself.
[10:21] <warpzone> zool2005: I would get a usb, isnt pcmcia getting phased out and replaced with express card slots?
[10:21] <zool2005> mnepton: I'm on a wired network
[10:21] <avagant> Isn't my mounted drive in /media suppose to show up on my desktop?
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> zool2005: check the hardware compatibility list on the wiki
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> avagant: it is.
[10:21] <zool2005> warpzone: which has the best support with Ubuntu?
[10:21] <avagant> It hasn't yet?
[10:21] <mnepton> zool2005: oh, even better. pcmcia is the way to go. much broader support, dirt cheap.
[10:21] <zool2005> fyrestrtr: I did but I didn't find any reference to usb adapters
[10:22] <wrabbit> fyrestrtr: I've got one of the Orielly ebooks and other tutes like Byte of python etc. Almost two weeks and I can only do simple if and while statements. :(
[10:22] <avagant> it showed up when i listed mounted drives...hmm.
[10:22] <vega> hi
[10:22] <warpzone> zool2005 wait I'm an idiot, go pcmcia, everything nowadays has internal network suport anyways
[10:22] <avagant> maybe if i restart.
[10:22] <PapaPItufo> fyrestrtr: bye! and thanks
[10:22] <zool2005> mnepton: are there any brands that are well supported?
[10:22] <mnepton> zool2005: where are you?
[10:22] <zool2005> France
[10:22] <avagant> You know how long it took me to get the audio working right zool?
[10:22] <PapaPItufo> CA
[10:22] <avagant> hahaha
[10:23] <mnepton> d'accord. moment.
[10:23] <PapaPItufo> central america
[10:23] <zool2005> mnepton: but I'm British!
[10:23] <romans5n1> odyssevs: nm, I just pulled the package from the debian site... still kind of a conundrum why apt-get keeps doing this, but as along as I can get the packages someway, I'm not too worried
[10:23] <tonyyarusso> I'm on a laptop and also have a CRT monitor attached.  Can I start a second gnome session on that monitor?
[10:23] <martin72073997> Hi. Anyone there able to help a complete novice? I've just got my computer rebuilt and am trying to install Ubuntu. Something is wrong: either the Ubuntu CD I'm using, or the CD drive. Don't know which.
[10:23] <martin72073997> Started trying to install. Looked ok. Then hung on the time zone screen.
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> martin72073997: survey says ................ its the cd
[10:23] <wrabbit> martin72073997: What's happening?
[10:23] <Rookie_> and the prob is that you cant install it ... ?
[10:24] <wrabbit> martin72073997: did you burn it yourself?
[10:24] <vega> if it gets to the time zone screen then it must be the CD
[10:24] <zool2005> martin72073997: try another livecd if possible to rule out the CD Drive problem
[10:24] <martin72073997> Then I restarted the machine. Every time it gets "error reading boot CD".
[10:24] <warpzone> tonyyarusso: I don't know but I'd love to find out as well, getting a lappy soon
[10:24] <wrabbit> martin72073997: try burning it at a slower speed.  I find linux isos to be pretty fragile with default burns
[10:24] <romans5n1> martin72073997: does the cd have a self-check option? I know Dapper Drake does, but I'm not sure about previous versions
[10:24] <odyssevs> zool2005, http://informatique-pda.search.ebay.fr/ethernet_Cartes-PCMCIA_W0QQcatrefZC6QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfgtpZQQfposZCodeQ20postaQQfromZR2QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQga10244Z10425QQlopgZQQsacatZ81749QQsadisZ200QQsaprchiZQQsaprcloZQQsargnZQ2d1QQsaslcZ3QQsasltZ2QQsbrftogZ1QQsofocusZbs
[10:24] <david_> Saludos a todos
[10:25] <romans5n1> martin72073997: if it does, I'd start there
[10:25] <mnepton> zool2005: so would you be buying this in the UK or France?
[10:25] <coyctecm> nice link o_O
[10:25] <zool2005> odyssevs: thanks I'll have a look. I was just wondering about compatibility with Dapper
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> holy urls batman. Learn to use tinyurl.com
[10:25] <martin72073997> Yes, it's Dapper Drake, has a self-check option on the cd. Takes ages but says the CD is ok.
[10:25] <t888> problemm: on kubuntu my sound card works, but on ubuntu (and edgy also) it does`t. what`s wrong? i`ve integrated, intel
[10:25] <zool2005> mnepton: doesn't matter which
[10:25] <odyssevs> romans5n1, actually I would be worried if it's interfering with your updates.
[10:25] <martin72073997> I didn't burn the CD myself. Bought it.
[10:26] <vega> bought linux?
[10:26] <odyssevs> zool2005, shouldn't think there's room to worry - proven technology, supported years ago.
[10:26] <vega> oh the irony
[10:26] <fyrestrtr> martin72073997: ermm, bought?
[10:26] <zool2005> odyssevs: thanks!
[10:26] <vlade33> fyrestrtr: i booted and once it loaded the monitor went on crack.. there was a "safe graphics install" mode should i try that ?
[10:26] <romans5n1> doesn't seem to be... I installed dapper yesterday, and I've already had three update notifications since... all have completed successfully as well
[10:26] <wrabbit> vega, open source doesn't always mean free(as in free beer)
[10:26] <Ash-Fox> Can somebody tell me what exactly the differences between the 'server' kernel and the generic i386 one?
[10:26] <vega> it almost always does
[10:26] <odyssevs> Ash-Fox, the server doesn't include half the crap you'd normally want on desktop.
[10:26] <wrabbit> free as in freedom
[10:27] <zool2005> odyssevs: I only need it to get a minimal install of Dapper on the laptop starting with the server ed
[10:27] <vega> and beer isnt free, its just borrowed
[10:27] <warpzone> wrabbit but you can get the CDs shipped to you and not even pay shipping with ubuntu :-P so yeah free as in everything
[10:27] <martin72073997> Yes, on the grounds that I'm a novice and would rather pay a few dollars to get a cd which I knew would work... Stupid, eh?
[10:27] <janitor_x> can anyone help with lm_sensors?
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> vlade33: your system isn't installed yet?
[10:27] <Ash-Fox> odyssevs, alrighty.
[10:27] <vega> can someone tell me how to get my screen resolution up to 1280*1024? the highest ubuntu has in the menu is 1024*768
[10:27] <odyssevs> zool2005, pick one of the known brands. I can't see why you'd have a prob.
[10:27] <zool2005> martin72073997: I got 5 CDs shipped and managed to shift 3 of them to interested friends! Vive Ubuntu!
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> !fixres > vega
[10:28] <zool2005> odyssevs: will do!
[10:28] <romans5n1> vega: weird... I'm having that same problem
[10:28] <wrabbit> vega you'll have to modify xorg.conf
[10:28] <vlade33> fyrestrtr: no .. i can't install it.. when i boot and select "start or install ubuntu" after it loads monitor goes nuts!
[10:28] <warpzone> ooo I want to see too
[10:28] <vega> is that noob friendly? cuz im a bad n00b
[10:28] <martin72073997> The only reference to "error reading boot CD" on ubuntu.com is at https://patches.ubuntu.com/s/syslinux/syslinux_3.11-3ubuntu2.patch
[10:28] <romans5n1> cept, I need mine at 1280x800 (widescreen) ;)
[10:28] <warpzone> !fixres > warpzone
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> vlade33: then use the safe graphics mode
[10:28] <wrabbit> vega, not really but if you do a few searches, you'll probably find a tutorial
[10:28] <martin72073997> Anyone out there able to make any sense of that?
[10:28] <vega> thanks
[10:28] <vlade33> fyrestrtr: ok .. is it a bitch to enable dual monitor?
[10:28] <vega> google ftw
[10:29] <romans5n1> !fixres > romans5n1
[10:29] <wrabbit> vega: took me a while to get my monitor to run at the desired refresh rate.
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> vlade33: on nvidia? no, its not difficult (please keep it pg13 in here)
[10:29] <vega> im not worried about refresh rate, just resolution
[10:29] <vlade33> fyrestrtr: sorry.. :)
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> vega: if you have a crt, you should worry first about refresh rate, then resolution.
[10:30] <odyssevs> wrabbit, presume xorg.conf replaces xfree86blahblah.conf?
[10:30] <vega> why so, fyre?
[10:30] <warpzone> vega monitor explody
[10:30] <vega> o.o
[10:30] <wrabbit> odyssevs: no idea
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> because the wrong refresh rate can render a monitor useless.
[10:30] <vega> thanks for the warning
[10:30] <wrabbit> but I do recommend backing it up
[10:30] <mnepton> zool2005: http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=5579&GroupID=296  <-- that should "just work"
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> but hey, you'd have a nice fishtank :)
[10:30] <vega> what should i set the refresh rate to?
[10:31] <Rookie_> try @60
[10:31] <wrabbit> I ended up with no X for a short while
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> vega: whatever is specified in the specs of your monitor. Its not a number you guess.
[10:31] <odyssevs> mnepton, you're worrying me, shouldn't they all work?
[10:31] <warpzone> vega find the monitor specs online, company site will usually list em
[10:31] <wrabbit> had to keep modifying xorg.conf until I got it right
[10:31] <vega> thanks
[10:31] <janitor_x> vega, just add the resolution you want (supported by monitor/vga card) to the Section "Screen" Subsection "Display" of your xorg.conf...
[10:31] <rey> does anyone know how to connect to aol?
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> rey: use gaim
[10:32] <warpzone> rey man I think you might be alone on that one :-P or did you mean aim?
[10:32] <rey> i mean as in dial up
[10:32] <gzevspero> Hi, I'm a new ubuntu user, and am trying to repartition amy ntfs drive so I can load ubuntu on the new partition... it won't let me partition it though, neither in the partitioning portion of the install cd nor using gparted in ubuntu live. Any suggestions?
[10:32] <vlade33> user partition magic
[10:32] <vlade33> use*
[10:33] <Rookie_> ehh, gparted is the name of the prog in ubuntu
[10:33] <warpzone> gzevspero wotn let you? what is it saying?
[10:33] <warpzone> *won't
[10:33] <rey> gparted will mess up the ntfs partion
[10:33] <vega> where will xorg.conf be located?
[10:33] <rey> i reccommend disk director
[10:33] <kyja> I dont understand that graphic glitch at startup with my fonts before login.
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> vega: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:34] <tonyyarusso> I had more problems with partition magic than gparted.
[10:34] <vega> thanks
[10:34] <kyja> I guess I am being far to picky.
[10:34] <warpzone> rey doesnt matter if you're just clearing it though, just dont want to move it around :-P
[10:34] <janitor_x> vega, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ---- to gain write access to the file :)
[10:34] <gzevspero> It creates a new partition but doesn't give it the volume I specified... I want to resize my existign ntfs to 40GB and leave 40GB for the new one, but after I hit apply it just gives me 5MB for the new partition and the rest to the existing one
[10:35] <warpzone> gzevspero holy crap DONT USE THE PARTITION EDITOR with the live CD
[10:35] <zzyber> HI there, i have a problem with dual boot. I used Windows Xp on this machine earlier and only had one disk.  Now i bought one more disk, installed it as master (cable select) and my windows disk as slave on the same ide port. Im booting the system and ubuntu goes up fine but when i try to boot into windows i get errors. I have read that there could be a problem booting xp from a second drive with GRUB but im not sure. Any ideas what to do?
[10:35] <warpzone> gzevspero its bugged, will overwrite your windows mft
[10:35] <cherubiel> gzevspero: get the gparted live cd dude, non destruvtive on ntfs too... works like a charm
[10:36] <gzevspero> yeah... it's ok, my ntfs is blank. Is it better to reformat and repartition?
[10:36] <gzevspero> if I reformat and dual install, which should I install first - xp or ubuntu?
[10:36] <Rookie_> zzyber - switch hdd, set WXP disk as master and linux as slave ... easier for win to find it self again ...
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> zzyber: what error do you get?
[10:37] <rey> what does a compilation error mean?
[10:37] <avagant> How do you refresh the panels?
[10:37] <warpzone> gzevspero I would do xp, but it doesnt really matter. just that way the grub setup is automatic
[10:37] <mnepton> gzevspero: the drive is currently completely blank with no data on it?
[10:37] <gzevspero> there's xp on there but nothing else
[10:37] <gzevspero> so I don't really mind losing it
[10:37] <Rookie_> xp first and ubuntu second ... less problems for win that way
[10:38] <mnepton> gzevspero: do you have the alternate CD?
[10:38] <gzevspero> ok, and I should partition the drive from within the xp installation program?
[10:38] <warpzone> gzevspero yeah but word of advice, use Fat32 not NTFS
[10:38] <mnepton> better advice, use ext3 and the Win32 driver for ext3 ;)
[10:39] <warpzone> gzevspero with Fat32 you can write to that partition using Linux, NTFS not so much
[10:39] <vlade33> how about that ntfs-3g ?
[10:39] <mnepton> gzevspero: do you have the ubuntu alternate cd?
[10:39] <Kampsun> where is fortune quotes saved ?
[10:39] <gzevspero> oh, I see... so linux has a tough time with ntfs in general? mnepton: what's ext3?
[10:39] <Kampsun> are*
[10:40] <gzevspero> I haev the live cd and the install cd... is the alternate something different?
[10:40] <mnepton> gzevspero: ext3 = the most popular native Linux filesystem at present
[10:40] <Rookie_> microsoft wont let the sourcecode for ntfs go free ... thats why its some problems
[10:40] <warpzone> gzevspero: no its fine, Linux can't write to NTFS at the moment, only read. It can write and read Fat32 though
[10:40] <nathalie> hello
[10:40] <nathalie> i need help
[10:40] <gzevspero> ah, so when I create the linux partition it shoudl be in ext3
[10:40] <mnepton> gzevspero: the live and install are the same. the alternate allows for a text mode install that offers more options.
[10:40] <nathalie> my kayboard is being locked under a specific user
[10:40] <nathalie> in KDE
[10:40] <warpzone> nathalie so do I, I'm chatting here at 5am :-P
[10:41] <mnepton> warpzone++
[10:41] <mindmedic> I was just testing a new 8 GB ipod nano. The partitions get recognized and are mountable. However it doesn't show up on the gnome desktop. On the same computer I tested the older 2GB version which works as expected. Is this a known problem?
[10:41] <mnepton> mindmedic: format of the iPod?
[10:41] <avagant> So how come my cddrive shows up when I burn something, yet it's not mounted?
[10:42] <mindmedic> mnepton: i can access the partitions if i mount them manually
[10:42] <gzevspero> ah, I don't have the alternate then... would you recommend it for someone who's just starting though?
[10:42] <warpzone> gzevspero: just leave whatever you don't want as XP blank, the Ubuntu CD has good defualt parrtitioning setup. Just setup your Fat32 partition for XP and blank the rest
[10:42] <warpzone> mnepton :-P
[10:42] <mnepton> mindmedic: ah. so it's not you can;t read the filesystem. dunno, not an iPod user at all.
[10:42] <gzevspero> ok, sounds good. Will do. Thanks all~
[10:42] <mnepton> gzevspero: i would set partitons carefully
[10:43] <mnepton> gzevspero: how big is the drive?
[10:43] <gzevspero> 80GB
[10:43] <mnepton> gzevspero: how much do you usually use under Windows for apps only? (no data)
[10:43] <warpzone> nathalie: locked, what do you mean? can't use it?
[10:43] <nathalie> yes indeed
[10:43] <nathalie> after login it just locks
[10:44] <warpzone> nathalie: for all users?
[10:44] <nathalie> but when i log in as another user everything works fine
[10:44] <nathalie> no just one suer
[10:44] <gzevspero> dunno... not much for this computer, I really hope to use it for linux and only resort to windows when there's an app that doesn't exist in linux. Maybe 15GB for core apps?
[10:44] <nathalie> user
[10:45] <mnepton> gzevspero: so i would do this. a ~20GB partiton for Windows, 10GB for Linux /, 1GB for swap, and the rest for Linux /home
[10:45] <warpzone> nathalie: ah, does it lock for the default user you made or is this a new user?
[10:45] <vlade33> fyrestrtr: i installed it! how do i enable dual monitor?
[10:45] <vega> when using nano, how do you safe a file youve edited?
[10:45] <mnepton> gzevspero: then, install the ext2/3 driver for Windows. that will allow you to get at data in your Linux /home from within XP.
[10:45] <nathalie> for the default user
[10:45] <warpzone> vega ctrl-x then ctrl-y
[10:45] <vega> thanks
[10:45] <vega> ctrl-x, that seems so odd for a windows user
[10:46] <warpzone> vega you exit first then it asks to save so you say yes
[10:46] <vega> oh i see
[10:46] <vega> thanks
[10:46] <warpzone> vega np
[10:46] <mnepton> gzevspero: you can then wipe partitions clean and re-install OSes wihtout losing data :)
[10:46] <warpzone> nathalie lemme think, it might be a group thing but I'm not sure, one sec
[10:46] <gzevspero> menpton: so three partitions for linux, four in all? so do I first install xp, partition 20GB for fat32 from there, leave the rest blank, and create three partitions from the rest from the ubuntu installation cd?
[10:47] <cherubiel> gzevspero: yep
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> vlade33: first, install the binary nvidia drivers.
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> !nvidia > vlade33
[10:47] <nathalie> thnx
[10:48] <gzevspero> mnepton: what are linux /, swap, and /home for? should they all be ext3?
[10:48] <vlade33> fyrestrtr: ty
[10:48] <mnepton> gzevspero: XP *requires* NTFS. so, 20GB NTFS for Windows from the Windows installler. the rest is blank, unpartitoned space. get Windows installed. install Linux, creating 3 partitions. 10GB /, 1GB swap, the rest /home.
[10:48] <mnepton> gzevspero: / should be ext3. that's Linux's root filesystem. /home is where user data goes. also ext3. swap is swap. no need to format.
[10:49] <vega> okay editing xorg.conf didnt work, i dont think i edited it enough
[10:49] <vega> under the screen section it has a lot of sets of resolutions
[10:49] <vega> should i edit them all?
[10:49] <vega> i just edited the first one
[10:49] <warpzone> um, hey guys anybody know how to list all the groups a particular user is in X)
[10:50] <Flannel> warpzone: groups
[10:50] <mnepton> warpzone: cat /etc/group | grep $username
[10:50] <bun-bun> anyone using bitpim?
[10:50] <warpzone> Flannel / mnepton thanks
[10:50] <bun-bun> !bitpim
[10:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bitpim - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:51] <gzevspero> mnepton: should they all be primary partitions, or extended/logical?
[10:52] <warpzone> nathalie: hrmmm. maybe not a groups thing.
[10:52] <mnepton> gzevspero: primary is fine
[10:52] <warpzone> nathalie: try going to the login screen and then hitting Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get to the terminal
[10:52] <gzevspero> ok... thanks for your help :)
[10:52] <nathalie> yes and then?
[10:53] <MTecknology> when i try to boot to my ubuntu cd, it hangs and starts spitting out HD I/O errors pn certain blocks... I want to reinstall Ubuntu and clean up my mess of crap.
[10:53] <mnepton> MTecknology: re-burn the image at 4x speed max
[10:53] <warpzone> lnathalie: login as the user who is having keyboard trouble
[10:53] <nathalie> yes and then?
[10:53] <MTecknology> mnepton, it's a pressed cd from whereever they make em
[10:54] <warpzone> nathalie: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:54] <warpzone> nathalie: well, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:54] <nathalie> yes did that thnx
[10:55] <warpzone> nathalie it will re-setup your keyboard, try and see if it still locks
[10:55] <Tabias> I just installed xbindkeys and xbindkeys-config from synaptic manager, rebooted X but where can Ifind the gtk config (xbkindkeys-config)
[10:55] <nathalie> ok thnx i will go try that
[10:55] <nathalie> looks like it could solve the problem indeed ;)
[10:55] <nathalie> thnx
[10:55] <warpzone> Tabias: would you use xbindkeys? why not the gnome keyboard shortcuts?
[10:55] <warpzone> nathalie np good luck
[10:56] <Tabias> because I have a G5 mouse and the tiltwheel and 3th mousebutton aren't working
[10:56] <vlade33> fyrestrtr: which linux-restricted-module should i use ?
[10:56] <MTecknology> mnepton, so the cd i ordered had a bad burn?
[10:57] <warpzone> Tabias: OH X) in that case not a damn clue, I know KDE can account for a mac mouse but I don't know anything else
[10:58] <Tabias> yeah, xbindkeys has the ability to create some extra keys, but problem is, I can't find the config interface (if a gtk-stuff-thing is an interface)
[10:59] <highneko> I just installed kde-core. Using kde, I can't change my moniter resolution!
[10:59] <mnepton> MTecknology: if may be damaged. what kind of device is the CD? how is it connected to the bus?
[11:00] <killaz> guys I have some CRC check fails issue with mplayer.... anyone can help me with this
[11:00] <warpzone> Tabias: found a blog with some into, you might have to create a defualt config file first
[11:00] <warpzone> Tabias: check this out, see if it helps http://clau.sparetimegroup.net/index.php/2006/02/
[11:01] <MTecknology> mnepton, it's in a cd-rom bay... i installed kubuntu, so i'll just assume it's a damaged cd
[11:01] <MTecknology> mnepton, i think i'll just go to sleep while it downloads
[11:01] <MTecknology> gnight all
[11:01] <romans5n1> hmm... I went through the whole FixVideoResolutionHowto and no dice, where do I go from here?
[11:01] <Tabias> tnx warpzone will have a look at it
[11:02] <warpzone> Tabias: no prob I shoulve checked the forums too, prolly has more official support
[11:02] <mnepton> MTecknology: oh. if Kubuntu installs and Ubuntu does not, something is wrong with the CD. try gently wiping it with a clean, soft, lint-free something before you toss it.
[11:02] <MTecknology> mnepton, i checked the back
[11:02] <mnepton> and if anyone wants to rub *me* gently with a clean, soft, lint-free something ...
[11:02] <MTecknology> ...
[11:02] <mnepton> yeah, thought so.
[11:02] <MTecknology> if you wanna come over?
[11:02] <mnepton> :/
[11:03] <MTecknology> bring money :)
[11:03] <mnepton> eh, too lazy to be aroused. sorry, shoulda really thought about it first.
[11:03] <romans5n1> am I outta luck?
[11:03] <MTecknology> well, it's 4:09 and i get up at 7:00
[11:03] <MTecknology> gnight all
[11:04] <frodo> lfdlvjod
[11:04] <romans5n1> ew?
[11:05] <aylagain> hi there I've got a propbelm with Audacity - Error initializing audio
[11:06] <Cartas> Hi old chaps!  Having trouble getting my SoundBlaster working on Ubuntu... I tried to go through a walkthrough with isapnptools, but the ./configure command doesn't work correctly!
[11:06] <warpzone> alright bed time for me, night guys it was fun
[11:07] <BrainOf62> hi
[11:07] <BrainOf62> when i use sqlplus of oracle, and i want to view my old command, it take it ^[[A
[11:08] <BrainOf62> i'm in bash
[11:08] <aylagain> can anybody help - the error dialogue states that there was an error initializing the audio i/o layer
[11:08] <Tabias> warpzone:  just had to do xbindkeys-config in terminal.
[11:10] <BrainOf62> when the lasted version will sort ?
[11:10] <avagant> when you compile something, can you change what directory it compiles to?
[11:11] <avagant> in the process, that is.
[11:11] <Garbanius> hai
[11:11] <cherubiel> avagant: modify the make file
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> avagant: pass the appropriate argument to ./configure
[11:12] <^Down> Is there a way to extract passworded archives with Ark?
[11:17] <stlxv> hi
[11:19] <McNutella> does anyone know how I can reset my audio settings as something has screwed them up
[11:21] <Ademan> Is there any way i can get the latest stable release of inkscape without installing from source?
[11:22] <romans5n1> okay, I'm semi-new to this, so maybe this will mean more to one of you, based on this article I'm reading, I'm supposed to make a change to /etc/rc.d/boot.local  ... that file or path for that matter doesn't exist
[11:22] <Ademan> romans5n1: what are you trying to do?
[11:23] <stlxv> I have a php problem : when function __set($name, $value) is invoked, $name is a empty string, but $value has the correct value
[11:23] <Ademan> stlxv: paste your code somewhere
[11:23] <stlxv> __set() is invoked by $objA->$b=6;
[11:24] <Ademan> php 4 or 5?
[11:24] <stlxv> php5
[11:24] <Ademan> should be $objA->b=6; as far as i know
[11:24] <stlxv> how can i paste multilines here?
[11:24] <Ademan> its in the topic
[11:24] <Ademan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:24] <romans5n1> i'm trying to get my display to be at the optimal 1280x800 resolution instead of 1024x768... I've tried everything in the Fix Video Howto, and I'm down to 915resolution... I've changed one of the modes to match what I need, but still no dice... what I'm reading here says that I need to add "/usr/sbin/915resolution 38 1280 800" to "/etc/rc.d/boot.local", but the file doesn't exist
[11:25] <Ademan> romans5n1: have you edited your xorg.conf?
[11:25] <stlxv> $objA->b=6; could work correctly, but it doesn't call __set()
[11:25] <romans5n1> yep... that did absolutely nothing
[11:25] <timo> eaysubuntu installed but /usr/bin/gksu is asking keychain password, which is locked, what is that password?
[11:25] <Ademan> stlxv: ??? you're positive? as long as b doesnt exist within objA it SHOULD call __set
[11:25] <Tabias> how do I compile a .c file? ( from this site http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Mouse+Button)
[11:26] <Ademan> Tabias: gcc -o Output SomeFile.c  iirc
[11:26] <Ademan> romans5n1: can you make a paste of your xorg.conf?
[11:27] <romans5n1> where at?
[11:27] <Ademan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:27] <romans5n1> k
[11:27] <stlxv> #!/usr/bin/php
[11:27] <stlxv> <?php
[11:27] <stlxv> class Operations implements IOperations
[11:27] <stlxv> {
[11:27] <stlxv> 	var $a;
[11:27] <stlxv> 	var $b;
[11:27] <stlxv> 	public function __set($name, $value) {
[11:27] <stlxv> 		echo "Setter invoked: $name=$value\n";
[11:27] <stlxv> 		$this->$name=$value;
[11:27] <stlxv> 	}
[11:27] <Tabias> terminal saying gcc isn't a known command
[11:27] <stlxv> 	public function __get($name) {
[11:27] <Ademan> stlxv: don't paste inthe channel
[11:27] <stlxv> 		echo "Getter invoked: field: $name\n";
[11:27] <stlxv> 		return $this->$name;
[11:27] <stlxv> 	}
[11:27] <Ademan> Tabias: install it through synaptic
[11:27] <stlxv> 	public function plus() {
[11:27] <stlxv> 		return $this->a+$this->b;
[11:27] <stlxv> 	}	
[11:27] <stlxv> 	public function __construct($a, $b) {
[11:27] <stlxv> 		echo "Constructor called!\n";
[11:27] <Ademan> stlxv: DON'T PASTE INTHE CHANNEL
[11:27] <stlxv> 		$this->a=$a;  // use $objA->$a to invoke __set
[11:27] <stlxv> 		$this->b=$b;
[11:27] <winterweaver> heye hey
[11:27] <stlxv> 	}
[11:27] <mnepton> mommy ...
[11:27] <stlxv> 	public function __destruct() {
[11:27] <romans5n1> why are you posting a whole script in chan?
[11:27] <stlxv> 		echo "Destructor called!\n";
[11:27] <highneko> In Gnome 2.16 is it possible to remove all the little ugly yellow tooltips? http://www.y3m.net/docs/gentoo-on-t42/images/wifi-rate-applet.png
[11:27] <stlxv> 	}
[11:28] <stlxv> }
[11:28] <stlxv> $objA=new Operations(3,4);
[11:28] <winterweaver> USE PASTEBIN PLEASE !!
[11:28] <stlxv> echo $objA->plus()."\n";
[11:28] <stlxv> $objA->$a=5;
[11:28] <stlxv> $objA->$b=6;
[11:28] <stlxv> echo $objA->plus()."\n";
[11:28] <romans5n1> yes, please
[11:28] <stlxv> if ( $objA instanceof IOperations ) echo "true\n"; else echo "false\n";
[11:28] <stlxv> unset($objA);
[11:28] <winterweaver> thanks
[11:28] <romans5n1> yep
[11:28] <highneko> In Gnome 2.16 is it possible to remove all the little ugly yellow tooltips? http://www.y3m.net/docs/gentoo-on-t42/images/wifi-rate-applet.png
[11:28] <Ademan> ajmitch: don't ban him...
[11:28] <Ademan> my bet is he couldn't stop the paste
[11:28] <highneko> He should be banned imo. That's alot of spam. Next time maby he'll use pastebin!
[11:29] <ajmitch> Ademan: I'm aware of that
[11:29] <Ademan> k
[11:29] <kyja> n00bs dont know what a paistebin is.
[11:29] <timo> what is pastebin, where to find answer
[11:29] <kyja> it is next to imposible to stop a paiste.
[11:30] <kyja> so I am on the side of those that lack the knolledge.
[11:30] <romans5n1> Ademan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25890/
[11:30] <cs02rm0> is it easy to bridge two network adapters in ubuntu?
[11:30] <cs02rm0> (any tutorials about?)
[11:31] <Ademan> romans5n1: and you've restarted X since you made the changes?
[11:31] <winterweaver> question on uninstalling packages....
[11:32] <winterweaver> I have Xgl installed, but wanna uninstall (cause it does not play nicely with cedega). But I cannot remember everthing which I installed to get it working >.<
[11:32] <romans5n1> okay bear with my potential stupidity... is that different than restarting the entire system? i.e. would X have been restarted in the process? if so, then yes... but if you mean specifically restarting the X server, then no... not sure how to even do that
[11:33] <winterweaver> how do I know what was installed, and what to uninstall
[11:33] <Ademan> romans5n1: yes, X is restarted whenever you restart your computer
[11:33] <romans5n1> okay, then yes, it has been restarted numerous times ;)
[11:33] <Ademan> and for future reference it can be done through ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:33] <Ademan> though that doesnt work on my system for whatever reason
[11:33] <Ademan> i just restart my comptuer instead :-)
[11:33] <Ademan> anywho
[11:34] <Nothing_About> hey can anyone help me out
[11:34] <Ademan> i REALLY wouldn't want to have only one resolution in my xorg.conf
[11:34] <hockyhair> how would i go about unziping every .zip in a given dir, unzip *.zip breaks
[11:34] <Ademan> i say you open up a terminal and do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and to select resolutions when it comes to that part, press spacebar on them
[11:34] <Ademan> !mouse
[11:34] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[11:34] <hockyhair> i have a dir with 100+ zip files all with diff names id like to do one cmd that will unzip the contents of every file in the dir to .
[11:35] <Nothing_About> when i started my ubuntu , Cd live it started to load and was going normaly as it should . Then a screen camp up Uncomprassing linux ... OK , Booting the kernal
[11:35] <Nothing_About> then some numbers came up as
[11:35] <Tabias> I tried installing enemy territory and I get the following error:  oem@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ sudo ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[11:35] <Tabias> sudo: ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run: command not found
[11:35] <romans5n1> Ademan: that was mostly out of frustration... I wanted it to be the only one so, hopefull at least that one would show up... but Gnome seems to ignore it entirely... the Screen Resolution cp lists 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x480, none of which are in xorg.conf
[11:35] <winterweaver_> anyone?
[11:36] <Ademan> romans5n1: wow thats really wierd
[11:36] <nikin> i was not looking and i have made a big mistake.. i use a notebbok, and i was setting my power sawing stuff and i set to hibernate the system both on AC and on Battery.. so now if i try to launch kde it hibernates in 2 secs
[11:36] <pmj> is there a way to edit config files in the console you end up in if mounting the local filesystem fails? After mounting manually I tried to run joe and nano, but they both had dependencies and failed
[11:36] <Ademan> pmj "nano THeFile"
[11:36] <Ademan> or sudo nano thefile
[11:37] <Ademan> oh wait
[11:37] <Ademan> you mentioned that haha
[11:37] <pmj> yeah...
[11:37] <Ademan> sorry
[11:37] <romans5n1> Ademan: haha, yeah, and it gets weirder... before I edited xorg.conf, only 1024x768 was an option... after I changed everything to 1280x800, it decided to give me 800x600 and 640x480, too ;)
[11:37] <Ademan> thats what i get for not reading the whole thing
[11:37] <pmj> it complains about dependencies and can't launch
[11:37] <hockyhair> i double dog dare someone to acknowledge my question ;)
[11:37] <Ademan> pmj: i reccomend booting up a liveCD and doing whatever it is you need from there
[11:37] <winterweaver_> I have Xgl installed, but wanna uninstall (cause it does not play nicely with cedega). But I cannot remember everthing which I installed to get it working >.< ... how do I know everything to uninstall??
[11:37] <kon> can someone help me out installing Xgl/compiz?
[11:37] <Flannel> winterweaver_, kon, #ubuntu-xgl
[11:37] <pmj> Ademan, I can't use a liveCD since the motherboard isn't supported and the controller card doesn't see my cdrom
[11:38] <pmj> the hdd is all I have
[11:38] <Ademan> hockyhair: just write a bash script that searches for all archives in a given directory and unzips them all
[11:38] <winterweaver_> Flannel .. thx
[11:38] <McNutella> where are the mixer settings kept
[11:38] <Ademan> pmj: wow, you're screwed haha (meaning i don't know how to help you)
[11:39] <Oswaldo> Hi again. Is anyone free to help?
[11:39] <Ademan> can you be any more descriptive than it fails to mount the local filesystems?
[11:39] <Flannel> !ask
[11:39] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:39] <Ademan> Oswaldo: just ask your question.  We'll all try
[11:39] <Ademan> pmj: does it provide any more descriptive of an error?
[11:39] <Oswaldo> Why my internet connection doesn't work after I've installed Ubuntu even though it worked with the Live CD?
[11:40] <pmj> Ademan, I switched motherboard, and the controllers on it aren't supported by Ubuntu. After connecting it to the controller card the disk switched position, and I figured I needed to edit my grub.lst. I also think that the controller card might not be well supported, or not supported at all out of the box
[11:40] <pmj> this isn't a rare problem. Pretty much everyone with a Core 2 Duo is fucked
[11:41] <Ademan> pmj: so its totally impossible to boot to the point you've gotten to THEN run nano off of the liveCD? i mean, is it you just can't BOOT from the liveCD or you can't actually mount it at all?
[11:42] <hockyhair> does anyone have any idea how i can unzip a ton of zip files all at the same time to the same dir
[11:42] <nikin> can someone tell me what file are the powersaving settings of KDE, or just a way to reset these settings from console?
[11:42] <pmj> Ademan, the controller card doesn't detect the dvd drive, and if I connect it to the motherboard, Ubuntu can't see it at all due to no support and that
[11:42] <Ademan> pmj: WOW
[11:43] <pmj> check the edgy subforum. This is a major issue ;)
[11:43] <Ademan> i suppose this is one of those times canonical will get money for support?
[11:43] <nikin> pmj: what MB do you have?
[11:43] <pmj> but all I want to know is if I can edit files from this emergency console
[11:43] <Ademan> pmj: OH you're running edgy?
[11:43] <pmj> nikin, ASUS P5B
[11:43] <pmj> Ademan, no, Dapper on the old hdd
[11:43] <Ademan> oh ok
[11:43] <Ademan> geeze
[11:43] <nikin> pmj: try to get an other lightwight distro
[11:43] <Ademan> everyone pool your money and pay canonical for support?
[11:43] <pmj> but Edgy has no support either. The latest daily doesn't support the mobo
[11:43] <highneko> hockyhair: I would do this for x in *.zip; do mkdir "${x%.zip}" && (cd "${x%.zip}" && unzip "../$x"); done
[11:44] <nikin> just to edit the things
[11:44] <hockyhair> for x?
[11:44] <nikin> something that fits on a pendrive
[11:44] <timo> eaysyubuntu is asking for the default keyring pasword, what is that
[11:45] <oblique> highneko: or "for zipfile in *.zip; do unzip "$zipfile" -d "mydir"; done"
[11:45] <hockyhair> all the zips are in one dir now and i want the contents of everyone of the zips to be in the same dir that they all are in now
[11:45] <Tabias> is there anyone that can help me with the ET-install problem, the way the forum tells me to do it doesn't work when doing ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run it says command not found.
[11:45] <nikin> hocky: MC is your friend :D
[11:45] <highneko> oblique: Yes, there are many possibilities.
[11:45] <oblique> Indeed.
[11:46] <hockyhair> mc?
[11:46] <nikin> midnight commander
[11:46] <pmj> nikin, um, just so I understand this correctly, the console you get to after mounting the local filesystem has failed, has no means to edit files whatsoever?
[11:47] <pmj> and there's no way to do it via the Dapper system that I can mount manually? Something without dependencies
[11:47] <Ademan> mount the root fs manually? sure you can, but it would be the same as having it happen automatically, i wouldn't think there's any greater chance of success
[11:48] <pmj> Ademan, so this has nothign to do with grub?
[11:48] <hockyhair> oblique: , highneko < thank you
[11:48] <nikin> hmm an editor without deps... and without cacheing on disk.... thinking
[11:49] <fyrestrtr> Tabias: make sure the file is executable.
[11:49] <Tabias> is apparently isn't :s
[11:50] <Ademan> pmj: well if you're at a console, you have to have SOMETHING, it sounds like the kernel IS loaded isnt it?
[11:50] <Ademan> or is it a grub console?
[11:50] <pmj> where does Linux get its info on where this "local filesystem" is?
[11:50] <fyrestrtr> Tabias: well then there is your problem :)
[11:50] <timalot> whats with the lilo in the topic?
[11:50] <fyrestrtr> pmj: /etc/fstab
[11:50] <Ademan> timalot: lilo is going by the wayside
[11:50] <Tabias> I'm running the 64bit version while the game only is 32bit
[11:50] <pmj> no, I get the Ubuntu logo and the text starts scrolling. It writes the line "mounting local filesystem" and then says something about trying to mount and it's stuck there for quite a while
[11:50] <fyrestrtr> timalot: a person that was involved with freenode that passed away recently.
[11:50] <pmj> after which it fails
[11:51] <timalot> ah ok...
[11:51] <Mille> anyone know if the ipw2200 driver is packet injection patched?
[11:51] <Ademan> pmj: well it sounds like the kernel gets loaded at least
[11:51] <pmj> so I need to edit fstab then. With an editor of some kind :)
[11:51] <Ademan> which is a start
[11:51] <Godfather> g' day
[11:51] <Ademan> how many hard drives do you have? and how many partitions?
[11:51] <Godfather> guys
[11:51] <pmj> one hdd, one partition
[11:51] <Ademan> pmj: huh....
[11:51] <Godfather> i have just installed ubuntu for the second time
[11:51] <Ademan> its able to load up the kernel but not mount the file system?
[11:51] <pmj> no, I guess I have swap too
[11:52] <Godfather> i need to setup the wireless connection
[11:52] <nikin> can someone tell me what file are the powersaving settings of KDE, or just a way to reset these settings from console?
[11:52] <Godfather> but now
[11:52] <Godfather> i needto insert the wpa key
[11:52] <Godfather> but i don't know how
[11:52] <Ademan> that's WIERD, that's really really wierd, especially since it NEEDs to mount the filesystem in order to retrieve the kernel...
[11:52] <Ademan> (grub does)
[11:52] <fyrestrtr> !wpa > Godfather
[11:53] <pmj> Ademan, isn't it like when you use the install CD. The BIOS launches the installer, which then mounts itself
[11:53] <pmj> here smoething, maybe grub, launches Linux, which then mounts the filesystem
[11:54] <Tabias> found my error, the .run was default not executable (changed it now and working)
[11:54] <romans5n1> hey! what do you know... I'm not so dumb after all ;)
[11:54] <Godfather> anyone could give to me a trick?
[11:54] <fyrestrtr> !wpa
[11:54] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:54] <Ademan> right, but you see the way GRUB works it actually works with the filesystem (i dunno if it counts as a full on mount) to load the Linux kernel
[11:54] <Godfather> ok but i doesnt' talk about wpa key
[11:55] <romans5n1> finally not my display fixed.... it's 1280x768 instead of 1280x800, but close enough ;)
[11:55] <Ademan> Godfather: yes it does, just not right on that page
[11:55] <Ademan> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[11:55] <Ademan> it links to it
[11:56] <Ademan> i just realized i havent programmed a damn thing since yesterday
[11:56] <Godfather> thank you
[11:56] <Ademan> np
[11:56] <Ademan> hope it helps
[11:56] <Godfather> i don't think so
[11:57] <Godfather> because it need to connect to the net
[11:57] <Godfather> at the moment
[11:57] <Godfather> i'm using winshit
[11:57] <Godfather> on ubuntu i can't surf on internet
[11:57] <pmj> Ademan, thanks for your time. I think my next step should be to get a small linux distro onto an USB stick and edit files that way
[11:57] <Ademan> pmj: sorry i couldn't help
[11:57] <Ademan> i tried :-)
[11:57] <romans5n1> I'm actually rather pleased with Ubuntu... last time I gave linux a run, I could never get any sort of networking establish, no ether, not wifi, no modem... so that didn't last long... granted, I've not a new system now, but Ubuntu picked everything up from go... all I had trouble with was the display, but looks like that's good now
[11:57] <Ademan> thats really a sticky situation
[11:57] <Godfather> i need to install a networking program..
[11:58] <Ademan> pmj: may i reccomend damn small linux?
[11:58] <pmj> Ademan, the tragic thing is that Edgy doesn't support a very common chipset
[11:58] <kyja> Godfather, ummm, why cant you network?
[11:58] <Ademan> pmj: well hopefully they'll fix that
[11:58] <pmj> Ademan, tons of people are going to fail to install Ubuntu unless they finally fix this
[11:58] <Ademan> is it a known bug?
[11:58] <nikin> pmj: doesent vi work?
[11:58] <Ademan> if not PLEASE bug report it
[11:59] <Godfather> let me esxplain
[11:59] <pmj> it is bug reported, with lots and lots of replies
[11:59] <pmj> and many thread in the Edgy subforum
[11:59] <Godfather> this is the second time that i install ubuntu
[11:59] <Ademan> pmj: ok, good
[11:59] <Ademan> hopefully they get their act in gear
[11:59] <timalot> whats the problem?
[11:59] <Tabias> how do I make a folder (map read/write/execute) for all?
[11:59] <Godfather> on the previous linux box
[11:59] <Ademan> i'd love to help out with that, but i'm no good at systems programming, i'm an application developer :-p
[11:59] <mnepton> pmj: what chipset?
[11:59] <highvoltage> Godfather: I'm sure we can help you make your problem 'go away'
[11:59] <bbrazil> Tabias: chmod o+a
[11:59] <Tabias> k
[12:00] <Godfather> i had a soeftware something sounds like wireless assistant...but i'm not sure
[12:00] <Ademan> he's gone, he's on an asus P5B or something like that
[12:00] <bbrazil> Tabias: I hope you know what you're up to
[12:00] <mnepton> yeah, just noticed
[12:00] <Ademan> with a core2 duo
[12:00] <Godfather> that gives to me t epossibility to set the wep and the wpa too
[12:00] <Godfather> but now
[12:00] <Tabias> just for a game
[12:00] <Ademan> i can't wait for edgy...
[12:00] <Godfather> i have only a wireless connection
[12:00] <bbrazil> Tabias: better to SGID the game
[12:00] <nikin> i was not looking and i have made a big mistake.. i use a notebbok, and i was setting my power sawing stuff and i set to hibernate the system both on AC and on Battery.. so now if i try to launch kde it hibernates in 2 secs
[12:00] <Tabias> what the hell is that
[12:00] <kyja> you cant get the wireless working?
[12:00] <Godfather> and a ican't install any program because i can't surf on internet
[12:01] <Godfather> using
[12:01] <Godfather> networking ddefault on ubuntu
[12:01] <kyja> is it bcm43xx?
[12:01] <Ademan> nikin: do you have GNOME? if so go and edit the config files manually from GNOME
[12:01] <timalot> couldnt that guy edit files?
[12:01] <mnepton> nikin: you may have more luck in #kubuntu
[12:01] <timalot> sed
[12:01] <Ademan> nikin: OR boot from the liveCD and edit them from there
[12:01] <Godfather> i put the wep
[12:01] <Godfather> in this way
[12:01] <Godfather> i can see
[12:01] <Godfather> the net
[12:01] <Godfather> i can see the signal
[12:02] <Godfather> but the device is idle for most of time
[12:02] <nikin> Ademan: but dunno what file i ame looking for.... i have gnome... and JWM , MWM , ION, FVWM, IceWM, Xface :D:D:D:D
[12:02] <Godfather> so i think that the solution could be the wpa key
[12:02] <Godfather> but
[12:02] <kyja> Godfather, I just read something this morning. someone got there wireless working by creating a one line file. I will look
[12:03] <Godfather> i don't know how
[12:03] <Ademan> nikin: wow, ok hold on lemme look it up
[12:03] <nikin> ty :D
[12:03] <Ademan> nikin: you don't happen to have a kubuntu liveCD do you?
[12:04] <kyja> Godfather, /etc/default/wpasupplicant    line= ENABLED=1
[12:05] <nikin> nope.. i have ubuntu live CD
[12:05] <kyja> Godfather, wont hurt to try this. can deleate if it still does not work with wep
[12:05] <nikin> or 2Mbps Internet, if that will do
[12:06] <beach> hello, sorry if this is a FAQ: I am trying to install an NVIDIA driver, so I need to boot without X.  On other systems, the runlevel by default seems to be 5, and making it 2 kills X.  What does one do on Ubuntu?
[12:06] <Godfather> mmmm
[12:06] <Ademan> nikin: i'm still asking around
[12:06] <fyrestrtr> beach: ctrl+alt+f1, login, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:06] <nikin> Ademan : ty
[12:07] <kyja> Godfather, people have had good results enableing wpa with that
[12:07] <beach> fyrestrtr: thanks!
[12:07] <Godfather> i have to try an internet point and connect my laptop by a wire using ehthernet device
[12:07] <Godfather> in this way i'll install all the packages i need
[12:07] <Godfather> hoping to resolve this problem
[12:08] <Godfather> at this moment the wireles seems doesn't work with only the wep key
[12:08] <kyja> Godfather, if it is not autenticating wpa what I just told you will probly get you going. you dont have to connect it hardwire first.
[12:08] <timo> easyubuntu asksk for the default keyring password?
[12:08] <Godfather> kyja
[12:08] <Djainette> hello all. A friend of mine has lost all sounds on his dapper since yesterday's update. Does anyone have the same problem ?
[12:08] <Godfather> let explain better :)
[12:09] <kyja> ok
[12:09] <timo> easyubuntu asks for the default keyring password?
[12:09] <Godfather> you're telling me
[12:09] <Godfather> tha i should write some script
[12:09] <kyja> Godfather, if you do sudo gedit /etc/default/wpasupplicant and add ENABLED=1 your wep will autenticate perhaps
[12:10] <Godfather> ok
[12:10] <Godfather> i'll try
[12:10] <Gasten> is it possible to list all your processes in the terminal? so you can kill them with kill?
[12:10] <Godfather> i have to restart the pc now because i'm on windows(winshit)
[12:10] <kyja> Gasten, top
[12:10] <Godfather> thank you man
[12:11] <Gasten> kyja: nice
[12:11] <Godfather> i'll be back soon
[12:11] <kyja> Godfather, your welcome and hope it works
[12:11] <Djainette> up : A friend of mine has lost all sounds on his dapper since yesterday's update. Does anyone have the same problem ?
[12:11] <[InFeRnAl] > hi
[12:11] <Normal> When I doubleclick my speaker icon, I get, "no volume control Gstreamer plugins and/or devices found". I have an Audigy 4 SE
[12:11] <[InFeRnAl] > anyone helps?
[12:12] <pixelfreaky> hello
[12:12] <Ademan> Djainette: I'm fully updated and i'm listening to Judas Priest right now... so at the very least I havent been affected
[12:12] <pixelfreaky> kann mir jemand helfen?
[12:12] <Ademan> nikin: everyone's ignoring me :-(
[12:12] <nikin> on #kde?
[12:12] <Djainette> thanks for the answer Ademan
[12:13] <nikin> Ademan :( np
[12:13] <Ademan> pixelfreaky: maybe, sprachen sie englisch?
[12:13] <Djainette> pixelfreaky: sprach english, bitte
[12:13] <Ademan> pixelfreaky: #ubuntu-de fur deutsch
[12:13] <mike-ekim> is there any cool little tools like geyes that I can have on running but on a WM like openbox, or blackbox, or fluxbox?
[12:14] <Ademan> mike-ekim: geyes is a "tool"?? lol
[12:14] <Djainette> Ademan: your german is less rusty than mine :)
[12:14] <mike-ekim> well not a tool
[12:14] <mike-ekim> hehe
[12:14] <mike-ekim> but an application or something running
[12:14] <mike-ekim> or any system monitors
[12:14] <kyja> mike-ekim, synaptic pachage manager and search for eyes. =] 
[12:14] <pixelfreaky> deutsche hier
[12:15] <Djainette> pixelfreaky: das ist ein english channel
[12:15] <bun-bun> !de
[12:15] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:15] <kyja> isn't there an #ubuntu-de ? or what ever language pixelfreaky is speaking
[12:15] <sPYder-> I NEED HELP: how long does the ubuntu 6.06 to install? i just wonder bcoz there is no progress bar shown upon install this new OS
[12:15] <kyja> ah hehe
[12:15] <Ademan> my german has gotten so bad, i couldn't even remember the verb "to go"
[12:16] <Djainette> Ademan: I was looking for "there is" ;)
[12:16] <Ademan> sPYder-: it can take quite a while, 30 min maybe on an older computer?
[12:16] <bun-bun> has anyone installed Google earth?
[12:16] <mike-ekim> what about any packages for the system status fo memory and nework use, etc
[12:16] <kyja> sPYder-, depending on your machine it can take 10 minutes for my lappy and other machines I have installed too nearly 2 hours
[12:17] <sPYder-> Ademan: i installed it with amd duron 700mhz+128ram.. i took me more than 1hr
[12:17] <kyja> mike-ekim, there are different ones I use what is preinstalled in the applet. so I have little monitors in my menubar
[12:17] <sPYder-> Ademan: i thought that my cd gone wrong but when i install the old version its faster than i thought
[12:17] <Ademan> does "was machst du _something_" mean what do you mean by _something_ ?
[12:18] <Ademan> sPYder-: honestly for specs like that I would use xubuntu, but thats just me
[12:18] <sPYder-> kyja: is it usual for 6.06 to install with blank screen?
[12:18] <sPYder-> Ademan: what the difference?
[12:19] <kyja> sPYder-, no. that does not sound good.
[12:19] <Laterix> My harddirve is physically borken. I booted with LiveCD and I would like to try to save even some of the data from that broken disk. Any suggestions what could I do?
[12:19] <kyja> sPYder-, installing with live cd ?
[12:19] <Ademan> sPYder-: xubuntu uses MUCH less resources
[12:19] <Ademan> its much more lightweight and suited for older computers
[12:19] <stlxv> hi?
[12:19] <Ademan> stlxv
[12:19] <Ademan> hi
[12:19] <Ademan> you get your php question answered?
[12:19] <stlxv> yes, and the problem has solved
[12:20] <sPYder-> kyja: there is no bundled live cd with 6.06, or does have?
[12:20] <stlxv> thanks to Ademan
[12:20] <kyja> sPYder-, if you have under 189 mb of ram you need the alternate cd to instll ubuntu. I have installed it on machines with 128mb.
[12:20] <Ademan> hehe np
[12:20] <sPYder-> alternate cd?
[12:20] <Ademan> kyja: don't you think he should use xubuntu instead? it would be far faster for him, and a better experience
[12:20] <kyja> however sPYder- what Ademan is correct. xubuntu is much more light weight for old machines
[12:21] <kyja> hey may want to yes
[12:21] <sPYder-> why is it that older version is fine with my pc?
[12:21] <sPYder-> the 5+ version
[12:21] <Ademan> sPYder-: probably an older version of GNOMe that might have used less resources
[12:22] <habeeb> Something weird: Installed the restrictedformats alright, etc.Then, I have an .avi clip. When i try to watch it, I get the sound but not the video. Also I can see the first frame of the video in the thumbnail..
[12:22] <sPYder-> is the minimum specs shown at site?
[12:23] <stlxv> Ademan: what about xfce, WindowMaker, icewm, etc.?
[12:23] <Ademan> stlxv: what about them?
[12:23] <mike-ekim> is openbox good?
[12:24] <mike-ekim> the wm
[12:24] <Bazzi> heh I need some new shipit shipment soon, I've nearly all of my ubuntu cds distributed :D
[12:24] <Ademan> just use fluxbox and be done iwth it
[12:24] <stlxv> they use less resources than gnome
[12:24] <Ademan> Bazzi: you hand them out?
[12:24] <kyja> sPYder-, I have installed on pII. also a p3 with 128 megs I just had to use alternate cd. becuase it installs instead of booting into live cd. but it is perhaps alot more resource hungry than you were use to in the past.
[12:24] <Bazzi> sure
[12:24] <Ademan> stlxv: OH, for sPYder-? I already reccomended xubuntu to him
[12:25] <stlxv> ;-)
[12:25] <kyja> ahh
[12:25] <Ademan> i've got a xubuntu box with 300mhz proccessor and 96mb ram
[12:25] <Ademan> hadta use the alternate install cd but it works
[12:26] <Ademan> i still haven't determined a good purpose for the xubuntu box, i was thinking print server, but i'm not sure
[12:26] <kyja> sPYder-, out of curiousity what is the machine that you want to install on?
[12:27] <sPYder-> what do you mean by alternate cd? is it the full cd install?
[12:27] <kyja> sPYder-, it is a full ubuntu but it does not use live desktop to demo ubuntu.
[12:27] <sPYder-> kyja: AMD Duron 700MHz, 128RAM, GeForce2 64MB, 40GB
[12:28] <kyja> sPYder-, it takes less memory to simply install right away.
[12:28] <sPYder-> i dont do LIVE CD for ubuntu... I Install them
[12:28] <sPYder-> besides I dont have LIVE CDs for this version
[12:28] <Ademan> nikin: are you still around?
[12:28] <davvs> how do i change what program to open a file when i dblclick on it in gnome?
[12:29] <Ademan> davvs: god knows, i've been bugged by that very same thing
[12:29] <KenSentMe> davvs: right click on a file, choose open with and select a program do open it with on default
[12:29] <kyja> sPYder-, then you must have alternate cd that never boots into live cd. 700mmhz. hmmm souds good.
[12:29] <kyja> ic ok
[12:29] <KenSentMe> davvs: sorry, first choose properties
[12:29] <kyja> dang should install for you sPYder- must be a hang up. can try again or try xubuntu.
[12:30] <sPYder-> aw...
[12:30] <sPYder-> i want ubuntu...
[12:30] <davvs> KenSentMe, hey you're right :-) thanks
[12:30] <sPYder-> i just dont like the curent installer
[12:30] <sPYder-> than version 5
[12:30] <Ademan> sPYder-: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/6.06.1/release.1/xubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso  is what you want
[12:30] <KenSentMe> davvs: no problem
[12:30] <KenSentMe> Ademan: check my reply to davvs
[12:31] <sPYder-> whats the main diff with x and ubuntu?
[12:31] <kyja> different gui sPYder- xubuntu is lighter in resource use. but is not as pretty
[12:31] <stlxv> sPYder-: xubuntu use XFCE for default, but ubuntu use GNOME for default
[12:32] <kyja> or its pretty in its minimalistic way
[12:32] <rambo3> says you
[12:33] <kyja> hehe
[12:33] <sPYder-> kyja: is that the only difference between those two?
[12:34] <kyja> I dont know what to say about it. it is nice. but gnome and kde is bigger and more robust.
[12:34] <kishore> ubotu, gparted
[12:34] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[12:35] <Ademan> sPYder-: yes XFCE vs GNOME is the only difference
[12:35] <kyja> xfce can be configured more if you want to. but it is made to be functional easy and light weight.
[12:35] <Ademan> a lot of people actually PREFER xfce over GNOME (i'm not one of them, but i don't use xfce a lot)
[12:36] <sPYder-> Ok.. tnx Ademan and kyja
[12:36] <kyja> sPYder-, you have a running ubuntu right now? you could install xfce and pick it at login. to see the difference first
[12:36] <Ademan> is GNOME 2.16 backported into dapper?
[12:36] <sPYder-> btw, whats the differnece between desktop cd and alternate cd?
[12:37] <Ademan> sPYder-: desktop is a liveCD (that can also install) and alternate is text only, use the alternate
 to install xfce, just type: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[12:37] <rambo3> !info gnome edgy backports
[12:37] <ubotu> gnome: The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.14.2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 44 kB
[12:37] <kyja> sPYder-, alternate cd is installer only. desktop is the live demo of ubuntu system with option to install. takes more memory with the latter
[12:38] <kyja> hehe you beet me to it Ademan =] 
[12:39] <Ademan> hehe
[12:39] <ChickenTalons> if Im using a 64 bit intel core duo processor on 64 bit ubuntu, which linux-image-2.6.15-27-amd64- am I looking to use - the xeon or the amd
[12:39] <octan> how do i tell which order the modules are loaded? i have a pvr 500 card,, it has video0 and video1 and i have a webcam /dev/video2 however.. when i restart my pc my webcam comes on video0 i cant have it there,, how can i tell it to be video2, or tell it to be loaded after the ivtv module ? my webcam uses the spca5xx module
[12:39] <Ademan> thanks rambo3: i was wondering why my backports didnt provide any new versions, its because i accidentally did breezy-backports instead of dapper-backports.... d'oh!
[12:42] <ChickenTalons> anyone?
[12:42] <ChickenTalons> if Im using a 64 bit intel core duo processor on 64 bit ubuntu, which linux-image-2.6.15-27-amd64- am I looking to use - the xeon or the amd?
[12:43] <kyja> what I cant understand is the fonts at boot up are all messed up like the hirez bit switched on a c64. its not a real big deal but it bothers me imensly
[12:43] <wickedpuppy> ChickenTalons, its intel so it can't be amd ... so that leaves xeon but its not xeon .. hmms ...
[12:43] <ChickenTalons> im using xeon
[12:43] <ChickenTalons> it says for intel x86_64
[12:43] <wickedpuppy> oh then why not use xeon ? i am confused ...
[12:43] <ChickenTalons> if it doesnt work ill try the other one
[12:43] <ChickenTalons> br
[12:43] <ChickenTalons> brb
[12:44] <avagant> Hahah
[12:44] <kishore> ubotu, fdisk
[12:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:44] <avagant> bitchx is actually alright.
[12:45] <kyja> Ubugtu, funky fonts on bootup
[12:45] <kyja> hehe
[12:45] <avagant> sirc is totally unconfigurable.
[12:45] <avagant> but i guess i can't have it both ways, can i?
[12:46] <wickedpuppy> using commandline irc clients ?
[12:46] <avagant> Yah haha. I read somewhere you can write scripts or something for bitchx.
[12:46] <avagant> That'd be cool.
[12:46] <avagant> Whenever anybody signs off, I have no idea who it is.
[12:47] <kyja> you mean you did not see this ?* Hit3k has quit ("Irony we meet again you cruel sadistic bitch")
[12:47] <avagant> no i can read their exit message.
[12:47] <avagant> just not the name of the person.
[12:48] <kyja> thats realy messed up
[12:48] <avagant> i don't like gnome terminal, i prefer xterm or aterm thanks.
[12:48] <kyja> I simply like xchat.
[12:48] <avagant> cept xterm and a aterm looks really weird on gnome.
[12:48] <avagant> wow if i knew how to type.
[12:49] <kyja> =] 
[12:49] <octan> OK Guys,, whrere does the modules get loaded from ? it aint /etc/modules because it got more modules running than listed in that file
[12:50] <kyja> so godfather has not returned. I fear my tip did not work for him.
[12:50] <Ademan> kyja: hahaha, oh well
[12:50] <kyja> yeah
[12:50] <Ademan> xchat has problems with urls here
[12:51] <kyja> !speech
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about speech - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:51] <kyja> hehe ok
[12:51] <wickedpuppy> ? what kind of problem Ademan ?
[12:51] <Ademan> wickedpuppy: whenever there's a URL if you mouseover it the text gets "blurred" (looks like it doesnt get redrawn right)
[12:51] <kyja> you might have to write your own think to launch your browser
[12:52] <wickedpuppy> www.google.com
[12:52] <Ademan> kyja: no that works fine, its the actual display
[12:52] <wickedpuppy> Ademan, not for me ...
[12:52] <Ademan> some text before http://something.com hi more text after
[12:52] <kyja> ahh. I dont see them underlined but no big deal.
[12:52] <kyja> oh
[12:52] <Ademan> did it screw up for you?
[12:52] <kyja> no I can follow links like that
[12:53] <Ademan> now it looks like "some text before hhttp://something.comi more text after"
[12:53] <wickedpuppy> google.com still the same mouse over or not
[12:53] <Ademan> after i moused over it
[12:53] <Ademan> indeed it remains the same
[12:53] <kyja> hmmm
[12:53] <Ademan> the problem is only for http:// i guess
[12:54] <Ademan> or maybe its only if there's text before?
[12:54] <wickedpuppy> http://www.google.com
[12:54] <Ademan> text before google.com   blah
[12:54] <Ademan> yep
[12:54] <Ademan> it happened to me there
[12:54] <wickedpuppy> before http://www.google.com after
[12:54] <Ademan> yeah it was a problem there
[12:54] <odyssevs> Need to restore grub (mordibly jealous windows removed it), and am referring to http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Restore_Grub -- but which of the boot options do I need?
[12:54] <Alin4lex> hello...
[12:54] <Ademan> but not when it was on its own line
[12:54] <wickedpuppy> no it doesn't blur out for me there
[12:54] <kyja> works perfect for me
[12:54] <Ademan> i'm using xchat-gnome mind you
[12:54] <Alin4lex> SUNT ROMANI AICI???
[12:55] <ChickenTalons> there's no macromedia flash for ubuntu 64 bit?
[12:55] <wickedpuppy> second time i see the name ...
[12:55] <kyja> I use the newer xchat
[12:55] <Ademan> ChickenTalons: there's no flash for windows 64 either...
[12:55] <ossie> #ubuntu-edgy
[12:55] <Ademan> kyja: just normal xchat?
[12:55] <kyja> yup
[12:55] <kyja> shows up in procceses as xchat.
[12:55] <Ademan> ah, well dapper came with this preinstalled... so i just used it
[12:56] <Ademan> i actually liek the UI more
[12:56] <kyja> looks good. works great. highly configureable
[12:56] <ossie> whats the edgy channel pelase?
[12:56] <ChickenTalons> is there a 64 bit channel?
[12:56] <Ademan> #ubuntu+1
[12:56] <Ademan> (is edgy)
[12:56] <kyja> no that zchat-gnome is ugly comared to this
[12:56] <kyja> er xchat-gnome
[12:56] <Ademan> lol
[12:57] <Ademan> i like the interface more, its more functional for me
[12:57] <kyja> yeah, big phat figners
[12:57] <ChickenTalons> Ademan: any 64 bit ubuntu specific channels?
[12:57] <Ademan> none that i know of
[12:57] <IndyBC> Does EasyUbuntu work for Dapper Drake?
[12:57] <ChickenTalons> and does anyone know if its possible to install the 32 bit firefox on b4 bit ubuntu?
[12:57] <kyja> I like the tabs for my channels. took a liking to chatzilla.
[12:58] <IndyBC> * on Dapper Drake
[12:58] <Ademan> i like the tree setup a LOT more
[12:58] <kyja> but dont like having to launch my browser to do everything
[12:58] <kyja> ah
[12:58] <Ademan> if i could do that in normal xchat i'd be using it right now (maybe you can, but i couldn't figure it out)
[12:58] <Ademan> or i didn't really try, i just saw this and used it
[12:58] <Ademan> but god its 4 in the morning
[12:58] <Ademan> my bedtime
[12:59] <ChickenTalons> it works!!! omg!!!
[12:59] <kyja> yeah you can have a tree on the left if you want
[12:59] <Ademan> really?
[12:59] <kyja> hehe
[12:59] <Ademan> maybe i'll try it again
[12:59] <kyja> ChickenTalons, lol I love that nick
[12:59] <ChickenTalons> thx
[01:00] <highneko> What's the name of the program being used on the top rigt? http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=edgyberylraingo9.jpg
[01:00] <kyja> Ademan, gave a good night
[01:00] <ChickenTalons> !mplayer
[01:00] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[01:00] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[01:00] <kyja> highneko, whats the prize if I am right?
[01:01] <rambo3> for every transparent window i shall kill you
[01:02] <gustavnilsson> Hi all! I'm running ubuntu on a webserver and I'm seraching for a script which set up users, mail them a generated password, and sets up an database for them. Does anyone know a script like that?
[01:02] <rambo3> php one?
[01:02] <kyja> you folks know the app notifyme ? has anyone made an applet like that?
[01:03] <gustavnilsson> rambo3: doesn't matter
[01:03] <rambo3> ok then learn php
[01:03] <wickedpuppy> gustavnilsson, wha ... ask to php guru or a programming guru ? why ask OS guys ? :P
[01:03] <wickedpuppy> rambo3, why not rails ? :P
[01:04] <rambo3> account sripts on you server is a bad idea if you dont know what or how they do
[01:04] <Aaron> Sorry if this is an annoyingly stupid question... but i'm instally Ubuntu and I chose the option to resize hard drive, partition and use free space... i have a 60gb hdd on my laptop... how long should it take?
[01:04] <Aaron> that is the resize, not the install
[01:04] <rafael> Aaron: it's quite fast don't worry
[01:04] <gustavnilsson> wickedpuppy: well, I thought someone else maybe had made a wellknown script for my problem :=
[01:04] <Aaron> its taken over an hour, is something wrong?
[01:05] <rafael> Aaron: yep prolly
[01:05] <gustavnilsson> well, the I have to code a little ruby then :)
[01:05] <jozzeph> good afternoon
[01:05] <bun-bun> Aaron~ resizing could take some time
[01:05] <rafael> Aaron: why don't you just do a manual partitioning?
[01:05] <wickedpuppy> gustavnilsson, if it is .. probably not OSS
[01:05] <gustavnilsson> ok
[01:05] <jozzeph> i have probs with recieving dutch public radio online...
[01:05] <wickedpuppy> gustavnilsson, or you can check out phpbb ...
[01:05] <Aaron> could it possibly take over an hour (resizeing)
[01:05] <wickedpuppy> i am not sure but those forums should have something like that
[01:06] <jozzeph> i tried vlc media player to recieve dutch public radio
[01:06] <rafael> jozzeph: try beep media player then
[01:06] <gustavnilsson> wickedpuppy: ok, thx :=
[01:06] <kyja> Aaron, it has to check that data will not be destroyed make a partition all kinds of things to ensure it is split and working properly
[01:06] <jozzeph> beep media player ok, i try tx
[01:06] <bun-bun> Aaron~ if it's moving data-- and if the drive is slow, sure
[01:06] <wickedpuppy> gustavnilsson, np
[01:06] <rafael> yw
[01:07] <Ash-Fox> !ati
[01:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:07] <bun-bun> !hotplug
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hotplug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:07] <bun-bun> !usb
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <kyja> !speech recognition-#ubuntu-offtopic
[01:08] <ubotu> speech recognition-#ubuntu-offtopic is Dear Aunt, lets set so double the killer delete select all
[01:08] <kyja> hehe
[01:08] <matthewa> will dapper server run on an AMD K6-2 450?  I've succesfully installed it, but on boot up the system reboots immediately after grub does it's thing
[01:09] <rafael> !babylon
[01:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about babylon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:09] <ChickenTalons> hmm how can I install the 32 bit version of firefox???
[01:10] <chendo> would there be a reason that a cronjob won't run?
[01:10] <wickedpuppy> ChickenTalons, i supose you can download the source and compile .. or you can get the deb from packages.ubuntu.com
[01:10] <wickedpuppy> chendo, permission problem ?
[01:10] <chendo> wickedpuppy, i can run it directly fine
[01:11] <chendo> but the cron just doesn't execute at all
[01:11] <wickedpuppy> chendo, what about cron format ?
[01:11] <rafael> !listen
[01:11] <kyja> I get this: cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 5311: Resource temporarily unavailable
[01:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about listen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:11] <chendo> wickedpuppy, identical to the one above it, cept for the command
[01:11] <Laterix> Where are MySQL databases stored?
[01:11] <Laterix> I mean in which directory/file
[01:12] <kyja> oh Z!1
[01:12] <Cas1> i have a question being a ubuntu newb
[01:12] <zenit> matthewa: that's not good. Could be a kernel issue. But first I would try to boot with acpi=off. Just append it after the kernel line in grub.
[01:12] <chendo> wickedpuppy, 0 * * * * /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/dyndns_update.sh
[01:12] <chendo> is what i'm trying to call
[01:12] <XiXaQ> Is there any way to hide Evolution and only get a new mail notification like Outlook?
[01:12] <chendo> funny thing is that's supposed to be called on ppp up, but it doesn't run then either
[01:13] <Cas1> i can't view my mounted ntfs drive
[01:13] <wickedpuppy> chendo, that script is own by ... you ?
[01:13] <chendo> yeah
[01:13] <chendo> i'm root
[01:13] <XiXaQ> Cas1, is that a question?
[01:13] <rafael> lol
[01:14] <wickedpuppy> chendo, i am not sure but cron doesnt run as root ?
[01:14] <chendo> wickedpuppy, the script above it executes
[01:14] <Cas1> yeah
[01:14] <kyja> XiXaQ, there is something realy neat let me find it
[01:14] <Cas1> basically the question was
[01:14] <Cas1> wtf can't i see my mounted drive in other programs
[01:14] <cwkx> Hey, does anyone know a good way to setup a wireless access point?
[01:14] <Cas1> i can view it in disk manager but noowhere else
[01:15] <wickedpuppy> chendo, by you the root .. but i am not sure cron runs as root ...
[01:15] <XiXaQ> Cas1, language please...
[01:15] <chendo> wickedpuppy, hmm, actually i think you have it
[01:15] <jozzeph> i installed beep but firefox wants to know in what map it is located...
[01:15] <Shish> wickedpuppy: cron runs as root, but it switches to the owner of the job before executing the commands
[01:15] <Cas1> sry xixaq
[01:15] <wickedpuppy> Shish, thanks ...
[01:15] <XiXaQ> Cas1, does it have a mounting point?
[01:15] <Cas1> yes
[01:15] <jozzeph> firefox wants to play dutch radio with totem
[01:15] <jozzeph> totem is the default player
[01:15] <rafael> jozzeph: have you got the plugins installed?
[01:15] <wickedpuppy> chendo, then from what Shish said , the script should run ...
[01:16] <Cas1> when i goto the mount directory i can't view irt
[01:16] <jozzeph> yes 1 plugin rafael i think...
[01:16] <chendo> well
[01:16] <chendo> there's a crontab job
[01:16] <chendo> er, gruop
[01:16] <chendo> group*
[01:16] <chendo> i chowned it to root:crontab and chmodded it 750 so it should be right now
[01:16] <rafael> jozzeph: there's a trick.. download the file, right click on it and got o open with then select the program which you want to open that sort of file
[01:16] <matthewa> zenit: no dice alas
[01:17] <wickedpuppy> chendo, update us :P
[01:17] <jozzeph> i can choose in firefox my beep player but i cant find the right map location
[01:17] <chendo> wickedpuppy, well i'm gonna have to wait >_>
[01:17] <rafael> jozzeph: what is the file extension? .ram .pls?
[01:17] <wickedpuppy> chendo, happy waiting!!
[01:17] <jozzeph> looking rafael
[01:18] <chendo> wickedpuppy, heh, i'll try
[01:18] <sjek> does anyone why, when i switch window manager to compiz, in the compiz manager, the windows flicker a bit and fall back to metacity again?
[01:18] <jozzeph> rafael: beep media player scrobler
[01:18] <rafael> jozzeph: just gimme the link for the radio and i'll check it out myself
[01:19] <jozzeph> ok rafael wait a few seconds
[01:19] <chendo> sjek, run it inside a console and see what the error message is
[01:19] <rafael> jozzeph: alright
[01:19] <sjek> how do i do that?
[01:19] <chendo> sjek, chances are you're missing an extension or something
[01:19] <chendo> just run compiz --replace within a terminal
[01:19] <jozzeph> rafael: http://portal.omroep.nl/radio5 and then ""luister live""
[01:19] <sjek> chendo if i do that i get this:
[01:20] <sjek> compiz: No composite extension
[01:20] <Cas1> how do i change user rights for a mount point?
[01:20] <rafael> mmmm.. bon echo2 is still buggy :/
[01:20] <sjek> so i guess i do miss some extension
[01:20] <mnepton> Cas1: sudo chown -R
[01:20] <chendo> sjek, enable composite in xorg.conf
[01:20] <sjek> but how does that work?
[01:20] <sjek> ok i'll go open it
[01:21] <sjek> chendo how do i do it?
[01:21] <wickedpuppy> Cas1, chown will change the owner .. if you want to change the permissions ..its chmod .. and -R is recursive ..
[01:21] <kyja> XiXaQ, search for gnubiff in synaptic it is awsome little applet
[01:21] <sjek> i opened the xorg file but i can't find anything where it says composite or something
[01:21] <chendo> uh
[01:21] <chendo> it's not there, that's why it says that
[01:21] <chendo> the guide you should be following would have it inside
[01:22] <sjek> uhm
[01:22] <sjek> i tried like 40 guides :P
[01:22] <chendo> then they're all crap ;p
[01:22] <sjek> yeah
[01:22] <rafael> jozzeph: dutch language sounds so beautiful :P
[01:22] <chendo> uh
[01:22] <sjek> well i am using 64 bits
[01:22] <XiXaQ> kyja, thanks :)
[01:22] <chendo> are you trying to do XGL or AILGX
[01:22] <jozzeph> lol rafel
[01:23] <jozzeph> did u get it?
[01:23] <rafael> jozzeph: u need a plugin for your firefox to handle the radio thingy
[01:23] <chendo> AIGLX*
[01:23] <jozzeph> where can i find the good plugin then?
[01:23] <sjek> i think i am doing XGL
[01:23] <rafael> jozzeph: try runnin' Automatix in order to get mplayer plugin installed
[01:23] <chendo> well
[01:23] <chendo> then XGL isn't running
[01:23] <jozzeph> whats is the name of the plugin?
[01:23] <jozzeph> ok
[01:23] <jozzeph> i will try automatix
[01:24] <rafael> jozzeph: i gotta figure out which plugin it is.. i guess it's realplayer
[01:24] <sjek> how do i check if it's not running
[01:24] <Cas1> >.<
[01:24] <rafael> jozzeph: but.. try automatix anyway :)
[01:24] <jozzeph> ok
[01:24] <chendo> sjek, ps aux | grep Xgl
[01:24] <Cas1> how do i remove readonly from the mount point/ directory
[01:25] <sjek> ok now i get some weird line
[01:25] <sjek>  6867  0.0  0.0   3956   924 pts/1    S+   13:24   0:00 grep Xgl
[01:25] <chendo> one or two?
[01:25] <chendo> then it's not running
[01:25] <sjek> one line
[01:25] <sjek> oh :(
[01:25] <rafael> jozzeph: hey buddy try openin' that link with wxvlc
[01:25] <rapha> Hi all!
[01:25] <sjek> well i edited this /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom file
[01:25] <rafael> i can listen to it from within firefox
[01:25] <rafael> hi rapha namesake!
[01:25] <rafael> lol
[01:25] <rapha> Lol :)
[01:26] <sjek> and i got x server errors and stuff when i started up
[01:26] <chendo> i've only done it with kdm, so i can't help you there
[01:26] <rapha> What I wanted to ask, does Ubuntu have some good function plotter software (for learning mathmathics)?
[01:26] <chendo> sjek, if you're using nvidia you can get the latest drivers and use AIGLX
[01:26] <sjek> hmm
[01:26] <chendo> which is easier to set up, imo
[01:26] <sjek> is AIGLX easier?
[01:26] <chendo> i think so
[01:27] <Cas1> how do i remove the modifier of read-only from a mountpoint?
[01:27] <chendo> Cas1, remove the 'ro'
[01:27] <sjek> hmm
[01:27] <mtyhome> hi
[01:27] <Cas1> how?
[01:27] <sjek> but i has to work on Xgl too imo :)
[01:27] <argetlam> hello
[01:28] <Cas1> chmod's help isn't the most useful thing
[01:28] <mtyhome> what is the name of the kernel tree in ubuntu??
[01:28] <chendo> Cas1, uh, you edit /etc/fstab
[01:28] <chendo> chmod has nothing to do with it..
[01:28] <Cas1> >.<
[01:28] <mtyhome> i read the docs and said it was linux-tree, but a package named that way does not exist
[01:28] <bun-bun> rapha:: you might want to have a look at the Mathematics section in the Synaptic Package Manager
[01:29] <Cas1> chendo: its not in fstab
[01:29] <Cas1> I'm using the disk manager that comes with ubuntu
[01:29] <chendo> Cas1, then i wouldn't have a clue
[01:29] <darkanyel> hi, can anuone send me this incon /usr/share/icons/Human/48x48/places/distributor-logo.png
[01:30] <wickedpuppy> Cas1, what is the mount point ?
[01:30] <rapha> bun-bun: looks like there are some good programs for KDE... I'll just try these :)
[01:30] <rafael> do you guys know how i could get truecrypt's module to work on edgy's kernel?
[01:30] <CoLL1eR> How do I burn ISO's to DVD's in ubuntu?
[01:30] <Cas1> its /media/windows
[01:30] <wickedpuppy> CoLL1eR, k3b or gnomebaker
[01:30] <chendo> Cas1, is it NTFS?
[01:30] <rapha> CoLL1eR: right-click the file and select burn to disk
[01:30] <rafael> CoLL1eR: try gnomebaker
[01:30] <chendo> because if it is, chances are you don't have the ntfs-3g to be able to write to it properly
[01:30] <bun-bun> rapha:: there are more if you expand your repositories list to include Universe
[01:30] <Cas1> yes it is ntfs
[01:30] <Cas1> but i can see it in the disk manager
[01:30] <sjek> chendo i'm gonna reboot now i might be gone for a long while if i have to do everything in the command window again :)
[01:31] <Cas1> and browse the directorys on it
[01:31] <CoLL1eR> Thanks
[01:31] <sjek> so if you're gone when im finally back thanks in advance :)
[01:31] <Cas1> i just can't see it anywhere else
[01:31] <rapha> bun-bun: actually I have universe included; just didn't scroll down far enough :) .. thx
[01:31] <rafael> does anyone here use truecrypt?
[01:31] <wickedpuppy> Cas1, see it anywhere else ? what you mean ?
[01:31] <CoLL1eR> I did on windows
[01:31] <Cas1> i can view my directorys on it and everything
[01:31] <wickedpuppy> thanks for asking here CoLL1eR .... LOL
[01:32] <Cas1> but i can't view it in like music player
[01:32] <Cas1> terminal
[01:32] <Cas1> or any other program
[01:32] <Cas1> just disks
[01:32] <wickedpuppy> Cas1, cd /media/windows ?
[01:32] <Cas1> nothing
[01:32] <wickedpuppy> ls ?
[01:32] <CoLL1eR> I am installing gnomebaker :)
[01:32] <Cas1> ls?
[01:32] <rafael> CoLL1eR: gnomebaker's cool :D
[01:32] <Ych> !apt-get
[01:32] <wickedpuppy> yes after going into the dir .. did you ls ?
[01:32] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[01:33] <cello_rasp> can anyone help me with Eterm ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=272680
[01:33] <Cas1> permission denied
[01:33] <rafael> CoLL1eR: there are some other programs you may want to try like acidburn and devede
[01:33] <surface2> if i wanna setup a mailing list in my server, what package should i looking in?
[01:33] <Cas1> i can't get into it
[01:33] <wickedpuppy> Cas1, sudo ls
[01:33] <FurryNemesis> !beryl
[01:33] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[01:33] <Cas1> i can see it then
[01:33] <Cas1> how do i make it so i don't have to be a su to see it?
[01:33] <surface2> !mailing
[01:33] <wickedpuppy> Cas1, then its mounted as root
[01:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mailing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:34] <surface2> !mailinglist
[01:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mailinglist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:34] <surface2> !mailing list
[01:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mailing list - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:34] <tk> surface2: are you looking for a ML addy or how to set them up?
[01:34] <surface2> tk how to setup them
[01:35] <wickedpuppy> Cas1, you can chmod i suppose ... but you can't write to ntfs unless you did more set up ..
[01:35] <surface2> tk i am mail server.
[01:35] <surface2> tk i mean i have.,
[01:35] <tk> surface2: look at majordomo or mailman
[01:35] <surface2> tk okay thx
[01:36] <tk> np
[01:36] <Cas1> how would i do that
[01:36] <Cas1> i tried using the instructions on the ubuntu wiki
[01:36] <Cas1> but they didn't work
[01:36] <wickedpuppy> Cas1, what was it ?
[01:36] <wickedpuppy> pls tell us what you did Cas1 ...
[01:36] <Ych> !apt
[01:36] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[01:36] <wickedpuppy> pls do not make us guess ...
[01:36] <Cas1> editted fstab
[01:36] <Cas1> put it into a group
[01:36] <Cas1> added everyone to said group
[01:37] <Cas1> and rebooted
[01:37] <Ych> ok, dumb question, switched from win to ubuntu, where would my configuration files for apache be located by default?
[01:37] <ifrozen> hali
[01:37] <wickedpuppy> Cas1, can do mount and paste the result on the pastebin ?
[01:37] <CoLL1eR> with gnomebaker I click add files and then do I click only burn image cause its an iso?
[01:38] <Cas1> ?
[01:38] <argetlam> hmm firefox won't let me import bookmarks from a file
[01:38] <wickedpuppy> yah burn as image
[01:38] <wickedpuppy> Cas1, type --> mount <-- and paste the result on the pastebin
[01:38] <cwkx> Anyone know about setting up wireless access points? I urgently need to create one on this computer
[01:38] <Cas1>  /dev/sda1 on /media/windows type ntfs (rw)
[01:38] <Keps> argetlam: using bon echo (2) ?
[01:38] <rafael> CoLL1eR: there's an option there.. burn iso image
[01:39] <wickedpuppy> Cas1, now go to /media and pls do ls -l
[01:39] <argetlam> Keps yes
[01:39] <CoLL1eR> I dont see it
[01:39] <CoLL1eR> it says burn image
[01:39] <CoLL1eR> and then
[01:39] <argetlam> Ke
[01:39] <rafael> CoLL1eR: yep that's it.. burn image
[01:39] <CoLL1eR> only create image
[01:39] <Cas1> dr-x------ 1 root root 12288 2006-09-17 22:14 windows
[01:40] <argetlam> Keps: Bon Echo Beta 2 specifically
[01:40] <jozzeph> rafael: installing automatx puts me for new problems...
[01:40] <wickedpuppy> Cas1, you can see the problem here ... right ? you know about the permissions ?
[01:40] <rafael> CoLL1eR: TOOLS / Burn CD Image
[01:40] <rafael> CoLL1eR: or DVD image...
[01:40] <Cas1> no :(
[01:40] <rafael> jozzeph: which problems?
[01:40] <rshadow> what is the minimum (most restrictive) file permissions for the /etc/passwd and /etc/group file to still operate?
[01:40] <jozzeph> it sais: couldnt find the package automatix
[01:40] <wickedpuppy> Cas1, i suggest you learn it ... soon ... dr-x------- means only the owner can read and execute ...
[01:41] <XiXaQ> kyja, gnubiff seems nice, but then I have to start evolution when I get new mail and stop it when I want it to disappear?
[01:41] <Sjek> how can i switch back to metacity in the terminal?
[01:41] <Keps> argetlam: ok, i wasnt able to import from file either. what you can do is, copy the bookmarks.html file and the bookmarks backup folder from your old firefox profile (if you have) to your current profile. firefox should recognize them then
[01:41] <rafael> jozzeph: u gotta download it.. please visit getautomatix.com
[01:41] <afd_> hi! Anyone with experience with r300? I've been reading about it and I'd like to try it. Is it included in the "radeon" xorg driver?
[01:41] <theqkash> hello
[01:41] <jozzeph> i was on http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation#Installing_on_Ubuntu_6.06_Dapper_Drake
[01:41] <theqkash> I'm from Poland, sorry for my english
[01:41] <theqkash> I've got a problem with mysql connection
[01:41] <argetlam> ok thanks Keps
[01:41] <jozzeph> ok getautomatix.com
[01:41] <rafael> witamy w ubuntu theqkash :)
[01:41] <wickedpuppy> Cas1, it means only the root and read and run files ... do this --> sudo chmod 755 /media/windows ... then ls -l again pls
[01:41] <theqkash> rafael: witaj :}
[01:42] <rafael> czesc
[01:42] <theqkash> Here is whole point: http://wklej.org/id/19a1d40d39
[01:42] <jozzeph> rafael: after sudo apt-get install automatix it won't work  :s
[01:42] <Cas1> chmod: changing permissions of `/media/windows': Read-only file system
[01:42] <Cas1> +
[01:42] <jozzeph> i edited my sourcers list
[01:42] <rafael> jozzeph: have you added automatix's repository into your sources.list ?
[01:42] <wickedpuppy> Cas1, you can't change it then ....
[01:42] <theqkash> Problem was shown to me after problem with energy in the place where server is
[01:42] <wickedpuppy> !fuse > Cas1
[01:42] <rafael> have you did apt-get update ?
[01:43] <rafael> have you done*
[01:43] <jozzeph> i added deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt dapper main
[01:43] <wickedpuppy> do this to write on the ntfs ..
[01:43] <jozzeph> # deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt dapper main
[01:43] <jozzeph> yes i also did that
[01:43] <rafael> jozzeph: then u gotta add the key.. do exactly like it's shown on the page
[01:43] <wickedpuppy> automatix is not encouraged here .. but you are free to use it .. of course
[01:43] <theqkash> none, I have do nothing, yesterday there was something with energy and from then there is that problem
[01:43] <jozzeph> but i did i chcked twice
[01:43] <theqkash> I can't do nothing with mysql, with password changing too
[01:44] <jozzeph> rafael: maybe its because i have installed easyubuntu?
[01:44] <rafael> jozzeph: mmm.. try downloading the .deb file and installin' it with dpkg -i filename.deb
[01:44] <rafael> jozzeph: mmm.. nope..
[01:44] <Ych> whats a command line prompt to search for a file?
[01:44] <rshadow> let me rephrase, will a perm. of 600 for passwd, group, and shadow cause any adverse effect with Ubuntu?
[01:44] <rafael> Ych: find / -name *string*
[01:44] <wickedpuppy> Ych, find
[01:45] <Ych> thanks guys
[01:45] <wickedpuppy> Ych, find and grep are very useful commands ..
[01:45] <Ych> whats grep?
[01:45] <kyja> XiXaQ, sorry, I had to step out. you can make a double click for it in the expert mode of the applet.
[01:45] <jozzeph> if i only knew in which map is located my alternative beep player
[01:46] <new2linx> does anyone have knowledge of xffm?
[01:46] <kyja> XiXaQ, so it can launch evolution or what ever client you use on a double click.
[01:46] <wickedpuppy> Ych, man grep ...
[01:47] <jozzeph> dutch radio used to work wit ubuntu 5 and mozilla browser and easy ubuntu
[01:47] <XiXaQ> kyja, but I still have to stop and start it? I'd like to have it running, but in the background with an icon in the notification area.
[01:47] <wickedpuppy> Ych, basically grep "string" file ...
[01:47] <rafael> jozzeph: try runnin' easyubuntu once again.. that might work out for you
[01:47] <Ych> how does it differ from find?
[01:47] <argetlam> has anyone had problems with dvds in edgy
[01:47] <jozzeph> ok rafael
[01:47] <new2linx> xffm help?
[01:48] <wickedpuppy> Ych, find ... find files ... grep search for strings from the file
[01:48] <new2linx> can someone at least tell me how to see a listing of other channels?
[01:48] <Ych> oh i see
[01:48] <Ych> thanks, wickedpuppy
[01:48] <wickedpuppy> for example for C programmer looking for var "hello" then he can grep "hello" *.c
[01:48] <kyja> XiXaQ, I guess I dont understand. it tells me when new mail comes. quacks and give a gdm. you can click the gdm to get a preview of the mail. double click the icon to launch the email client and read the full thing. I dont understand what you realy want I guess. sorry
[01:49] <wickedpuppy> np
[01:49] <spocky> hello
[01:49] <theqkash> rafael: http://forum.ubuntu.pl/viewtopic.php?p=76932#76932
[01:49] <argetlam> new2linx: /list
[01:49] <new2linx> argetlam, thanks
[01:49] <rafael> theqkash: what's that?
[01:49] <new2linx> argetlam, wait that didn't do anything?
[01:49] <theqkash> rafael: description of problem in polish ;] 
[01:49] <lazzareth> How can i setup my ssh server to only alow users to login that are in the group 'sshallowedusers' ?
[01:49] <rafael> theqkash: sorry.. i don't speak polski
[01:50] <ed_> does anyone else have trouble mounting xfs on dapper?
[01:50] <rafael> theqkash: i'm brazilian :)
[01:50] <argetlam> new2linux what are u using
[01:50] <new2linx> xchat
[01:50] <new2linx> xubuntu
[01:50] <new2linx> dapper
[01:50] <spocky> I'm in the pain of tryint go get the tvout of my ati 9200 Pro card to be running. As far as I've been reading about this, ati cards are pretty much a pain in the ass for linux users. So If i'd think about getting myself a other graphics card. What low cost chipset would be verry good supportet? Nvidia? Matrox? What brand etc. ?
[01:50] <argetlam> ok
[01:51] <XiXaQ> kyja, starting and stopping Evolution takes more resources than simply hiding and showing it.
[01:51] <argetlam> you should be able to access it in the menus
[01:52] <rafael> theqkash: from the error message shown there i suppose you've not installed apache
[01:52] <kyja> XiXaQ, oh ic. you could modify the gdm display of the aplet to show bigger widow to read your mail if it isnt too big. then launch evolution only if you have to. perhaps also there are other solutions. I am looking in the expert config now.
[01:53] <Ych> anyone here use apache2?
[01:53] <argetlam> new2linux give me a bit I need to install xchat to figure oute where
[01:53] <mike_stern> where can i read log file for SSHD?
[01:53] <mike_stern> other than syslog
[01:53] <Ych> when i try to restart apache using the apachectl command it tells me 'command not found'
[01:53] <mike_stern> auth.log
[01:54] <mike_stern> is there any other file?
[01:54] <theqkash> rafael: oh, sorry;)
[01:54] <XiXaQ> kyja, but I'm not interested in only mail. The calendars and other stuff is also useful. I open and close Outlook all the time. It's a waste of resources to start and stop it every five minutes..
[01:54] <rafael> theqkash: it's ok :)
[01:54] <rafael> Ych: try: /etc/init.d/apache restart
[01:55] <kyja> XiXaQ, I understand what you mean now. you want to hide and show the app. hmmm. there must be something one sec
[01:55] <benjamin> Any one how i rename NFS-icons on the Desktop?
[01:55] <rshadow> is there a reason that /etc/passwd requires world readable permissions?
[01:55] <mike_stern> eys
[01:55] <bbrazil> rshadow: yes
[01:56] <Ych> rafael, grep: /etc/apache/httpd.conf: No such file or directory      * /usr/sbin/apachectl is not executable, exiting...
[01:56] <rshadow> bbrazil, can you enlighten me? not very secure.. as it stands any application can dump the contents of those files
[01:56] <argetlam_> new2linux go to network then channels
[01:57] <bbrazil> rshadow: there should be nothing sensitive in that file
[01:57] <argetlam_> says hotkeys are alt+c
[01:57] <jozzeph> rafael: i found the location of my beep plaayer
[01:57] <bbrazil> rshadow: all paswrords are now in /etc/shadow
[01:57] <rafael> jozzeph: have you tried openin' the link with wxvlc ?
[01:57] <jozzeph> but i havent got the right plugin for my bleep player
[01:57] <rshadow> bbrazil, no but it does list every valid user on the system, helping narrow down a brute force attack
[01:58] <jozzeph> wxvlc?
[01:59] <bbrazil> rshadow: if an attacker has local access, you have bigger problems
[02:00] <ed_> can someone help with a mount problem i have. the disk is just fine when i use the dapper live cd, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25896/
[02:00] <rshadow> bbrazil, what I am concerned with is that a PHP script can easily output that file (along with /etc/group). While I would hope my scripts are secure, if an attacker were to break them there is no fallback security
[02:01] <bbrazil> rshadow: you're looking for security through obscurity. That isn't real security
[02:01] <peter77> hi
[02:01] <peter77> I fixed my battery monitor problem!!
[02:02] <Aaron> unbeleivable
[02:02] <Aaron> i just installed ubuntu, and know its not accepting my password
[02:02] <peter77> LOL
[02:02] <Aaron> is there a default password, other than the one you type in during install?
[02:02] <rshadow> bbrazil, I don't understand how that is security through obscurity.. but I see you point
[02:02] <musti> hello how does the <code> tags work on the Ubuntu forums?
[02:03] <Cartas> Anyone here know how to fix problems with ATi graphics cards and not-being-allowed-to-boot-into-Linux? :O
[02:03] <jrib> musti: [code] 
[02:03] <jozzeph> rafael: im trying now vlc with wxvlc
[02:03] <jrib> Aaron: no, only the one you entered
[02:03] <musti> jrib:[code]  and [/code]  ?
[02:03] <jrib> musti: yep
[02:03] <bbrazil> rshadow: anhw
[02:03] <musti> oki thanks alot
[02:04] <bbrazil> rshadow: anyway, some stuff will break if you change it
[02:04] <jozzeph> rafael is gone
[02:04] <jrib> Aaron: you checked the usual stuff like username is spelled ok, caps lock, etc?
[02:04] <Cartas> Fatal Server Error: no screens found.
[02:04] <rshadow> bbrazil, understandable.  I just don't remember anything in /etc being world readable under Gentoo, so it had me wondering is all.
[02:05] <Aaron> yeah... install wont let you choose a username with a capital letter...
[02:05] <bimberi> Aaron: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[02:05] <admin_> how do i delete a folder via command line?
[02:05] <bbrazil> admin_: rmdir
[02:05] <bimberi> rm -r folder
[02:05] <jrib> admin_: rmdir if it is empty,  rm -r if you want a recursive delete of everything isnide as well
[02:05] <admin_> I have a old thinkpad, the BEEP on it is annyoingly loud, how do i stop that beep? (its a system speaker beep)
[02:06] <Cartas> How do I uninstall Ubuntu?
[02:06] <jrib> Aaron: ok, well just reboot and at the grub menu, select "recovery mode".  Then use the command   passwd your_username_here  to reset the password
[02:06] <wickedpuppy> Cartas, wrong channel to ask ?
[02:06] <Cartas> Well, it seems no-one knows how to fix the problem I have with it... so I'll have to just reinstall it :O
[02:07] <wickedpuppy> Cartas, then reinstall ? why the uninstall ? :P
[02:07] <Cartas> Well, I have to uninstall it first to install it again :P
[02:07] <wickedpuppy> ?
[02:07] <bimberi> Cartas, just choose to format during installation of whatever you choose to replace it
[02:07] <wickedpuppy> just install ....
[02:07] <Cartas> Hm
[02:07] <wickedpuppy> you mean you uninstall windows ?
[02:07] <Cartas> I'm on Windows atm.
[02:08] <wickedpuppy> how do you uninstall windows ?
[02:08] <Cartas> You format the drive.
[02:08] <wickedpuppy> Cartas, how do you uninstall windows 95 to install windows 98 ?
[02:08] <wickedpuppy> precisely!!!!!
[02:08] <Cartas> But, this drive has both Linux & Windows on, and I don't want to rid of Windows.
[02:08] <kyja> XiXaQ, libevolution-ruby1.8 do anything for you? you could write a lighter app to query evolution data.
[02:08] <Cartas> The partition-manager thing looks kind of strange ,and I don't want to risk formatting my Windows installation also :S
[02:09] <wickedpuppy> Cartas, then don't format windows partition ....
[02:09] <bimberi> and back up before playing with any partition manager
[02:09] <XiXaQ> kyja, well, notification is ok. I can fix that with gnubiff. Is there a way to show and hide a running application?
[02:09] <wickedpuppy> Cartas, then can't help ya there .. since you yourself told us the answer already ..
[02:10] <Cartas> What would be best if I could just fix my problem :(
[02:10] <webofunn1> hello , i have a problem with my GNOME PPP please help me
[02:10] <wickedpuppy> Cartas, learn how to use fdisk/cfdisk ?
[02:10] <Cartas> When I boot up, I can't get into Linux, just the command-line interface :o
[02:10] <jozzeph> the vlc finally solved my problem for dutch radio online
[02:10] <sarrus> hello guys
[02:10] <wickedpuppy> Cartas, so your X is screwed ?
[02:10] <jozzeph> leaving now bye
[02:10] <kyja> XiXaQ, there must be but I dont know what it is at this time. maybe if we look in the man pages we can at least get terminal commands to work with gdm windows.
[02:10] <sarrus> I have installed edgy
[02:11] <Cartas> I have the error: 'Fatal Server Error: no screens found.'
[02:11] <Cartas> After installing ATi drivers.
[02:11] <kyja> Cartas, #ubuntu+1
[02:11] <Cartas> Must be some way to get it back to how it was...
[02:11] <sarrus> and latest Nvidia + Aiglx
[02:11] <sarrus> but i' have some problem with compiz
[02:12] <XiXaQ> sarrus, Edgy is in beta. Please join #Ubuntu+1
[02:12] <sarrus> thank you
[02:12] <CoLL1eR> Help, How do I boot from CD with GRUB?
[02:12] <hpnadig> anyone using Intel dual core with Ubuntu here?
[02:12] <wickedpuppy> Cartas, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg done this ?
[02:12] <Cartas> Yes
[02:12] <Gimpy|teamgenoci> hey
[02:12] <wickedpuppy> CoLL1eR, you boot from cd from bios .. not grub
[02:12] <wickedpuppy> Cartas, it doesn't help ?
[02:12] <Cartas> I get screen after screen of instructions and such.
[02:12] <Cartas> Well, I've changed the stuff in there, but I have no idea what half of the things od.
[02:12] <Cartas> do*
[02:13] <Cartas> Maybe I'm setting things incorrectly? :O
[02:13] <wickedpuppy> Cartas, bingo
[02:13] <Gimpy|teamgenoci> anybody know where I can get a wireless driver wrapper for a linksys card?
[02:13] <CoLL1eR> wickedpuppy: I tryed that I clicked cd then it took a minute and then went to GRUB
[02:13] <wickedpuppy> CoLL1eR, you click cd ?
[02:13] <Cartas> But what am I doing wrong? That's the problem, hm...
[02:13] <CoLL1eR> wickedpuppy: Yes does that mean I burned the ISO wrong?
[02:14] <wickedpuppy> Cartas, eh ah ... can't help ya there ... your hardware
[02:14] <wickedpuppy> CoLL1eR, where do you see the cd option ?
[02:14] <CoLL1eR> wickedpuppy: When I turn on computer I press esc to go to boot menu and  Ichoose CD
[02:14] <XiXaQ> kyja, a gdm window is a general window in GNOME?
[02:15] <wickedpuppy> CoLL1eR, correct ..
[02:15] <wickedpuppy> btw do this .. go to windows/linux whatever ... and load the cd .. what do you see ? files ?
[02:15] <CoLL1eR> wickedpuppy: then it like shows a black screen for a minute then it goes to GRUB
[02:15] <CoLL1eR> wickedpuppy: yes  Isee a ISO file on the CD
[02:15] <wickedpuppy> CoLL1eR, i think you burned it as a data cd ...
[02:15] <kyja> XiXaQ, its the desktop manager of gnome but I am thinking that is not it. now I am looking in man xorg
[02:15] <wickedpuppy> thats what i think
[02:15] <tpm> Cartas: to get it "how it was" type: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf, change the line that says driver "ati" to driver "vesa"
[02:15] <wickedpuppy> CoLL1eR, you should burn it as image
[02:15] <Cartas> Thanks <3
[02:16] <wickedpuppy> ?
[02:16] <kyja> no xorg cant be
[02:16] <wickedpuppy> make babies? hope one of you is a girl
[02:16] <Cartas> Maybe we'll make them out of snow or something, wickedpuppy!
[02:16] <CoLL1eR> wickedpuppy: I click on the TOP burn dvd image in gnomebaker
[02:16] <Cartas> Snowbabies!
[02:17] <kyja> there is no info on pid
[02:17] <Cartas> I hope this works, tpm, old chap! :)
[02:17] <kyja> hehe
[02:17] <Aaron> yay
[02:17] <Aaron> im in
[02:17] <wickedpuppy> CoLL1eR, i don't know gnomebaker .... can't help ya there ... i can help with k3b
[02:17] <CoLL1eR> wickedpuppy: I tryed it install k3b and it didnt work
[02:17] <tpm> Cartas: if it doesn't we'll try seomthing else
[02:17] <wickedpuppy> CoLL1eR, error pls ?
[02:18] <Aaron> i want to install thunderbird with the Lightning (calender) .xpi
[02:18] <Aaron> what would be easiest way
[02:18] <CoLL1eR> wickedpuppy: 1 sec let me install it again
[02:18] <XiXaQ> what is a D-BUS message?
[02:19] <argetlam_> okay I have my music collection on a windows file server which I can see going through Ubuntus default network setup
[02:19] <SuperMiguel> does any one know how to update ubuntu 6.06 to edgy?
[02:19] <argetlam_> but how can I get Rhythymbox to see it
[02:19] <wickedpuppy> !upgrade
[02:19] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:20] <wickedpuppy> argetlam_, is it mounted ?
[02:20] <tpm> SuperMiguel: sudo sed -i -e 's/dapper/edgy/' /etc/apt/sources.list ... sudo apt-get update ... sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:21] <tpm> SuperMiguel: backup your sources.list FIRST
[02:21] <CoLL1eR> wickedpuppy: it worked now
[02:21] <argetlam_> wickedpuppy: i didn't intentionally mount the partitions no
[02:21] <wickedpuppy> CoLL1eR, of course it does :P
[02:21] <wickedpuppy> argetlam_, then the programs can't see it
[02:21] <CoLL1eR> wickedpuppy: Now which one do  I choose?
[02:21] <CoLL1eR> wickedpuppy: to burn the ISO to dvd
[02:21] <tpm> SuperMiguel: read ubotu's link first tho
[02:22] <wickedpuppy> CoLL1eR, tools -> burn DVD iso
[02:22] <argetlam_> wheres a tut to say how to mount a network drive
[02:22] <wickedpuppy> the load the image in it ... it should do md5
[02:22] <wickedpuppy> argetlam_, network as in samba ?
[02:22] <kraut> moin
[02:23] <SuperMiguel> tpm: what do i have to do next
[02:23] <CoLL1eR> wickedpuppy: Do i have to wait for the md5 checksum to load ?
[02:23] <tpm> SuperMiguel: What have you done so far?
[02:23] <kyja> XiXaQ, sorry I could not help more.
[02:24] <wickedpuppy> CoLL1eR, yup
[02:24] <argetlam_> wickedpuppy: I would assume so as its a windows comp
[02:24] <fredrik> hi, i need help, trying to download google notebook on to my browser but nothing is happening. Running on latest UBUNTU version
[02:24] <wickedpuppy> argetlam_, then smbmount
[02:24] <aaron_> wow, i feel cool
[02:25] <defcon8> hello
[02:25] <wickedpuppy> federic, #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[02:25] <SuperMiguel> tpm: i did that dist-update
[02:25] <SuperMiguel> tpm: then it pup up an screen to install like 400 of updates
[02:25] <argetlam_> thx wickedpuppy
[02:25] <wickedpuppy> np
[02:25] <tpm> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ... if you say yes it will download all the upgrades.
[02:25] <SuperMiguel> and when i restart the computer it tells me that i cant start the xserver
[02:26] <SuperMiguel> do i have to do something else?
[02:26] <defcon8> I'm having quite a bit of trouble with my wireless card. The network is wep password free and manual IP (no dhcp). I have it on channel 11 and on managed mode. iwlist scan finds my wireless router fine. I have configured with what I think is called wlassistant. It seems to be able to connect to the router, but when it tries to test the connection, nothing happens
[02:26] <defcon8> can anyone tell me what the problem could be? In the options, I had specified ip as 192.168.1.2 and gateway as 192.168.1.1
[02:26] <tpm> SuperMiguel: type uname -a what does it say?
[02:27] <defcon8> mask as 255.255.255.0
[02:27] <SuperMiguel> i had to format
[02:27] <SuperMiguel> my drive
[02:27] <Ropechoborra> what does this service do?  netbios-dgm (udp/138) ?
[02:27] <SuperMiguel> it wasnt leting me go in
[02:27] <defcon8> anyone?
[02:27] <aaron_> I'm now using irc on ubuntu
[02:29] <Aaron2> does anyone know how to have multiple windows in irssi
[02:29] <jrib> Aaron2: /window new,  but you can just join a channel and a new window gets created
[02:30] <tpm> defcon8: Do you have network-manager-gnome installed?
[02:30] <jrib> Aaron2: the key is that you can switch with ctrl-n, ctrl-p  or  alt-#  where # is the window number
[02:31] <Aaron2> wow
[02:31] <Aaron2> it works!
[02:31] <Wolfpaws> hi. How do you remove broken / conflicting packages?
[02:32] <SuperMiguel> sudo apt-get remove <name of the package>
[02:32] <Aaron2> next thing, how do i change resolution
[02:32] <Ramunas> hello
[02:32] <enyc> Ramunas: meepmeep
[02:32] <Ramunas> anybody here has AMD 64 Athlon CPU ?
[02:32] <Wolfpaws> SuperMiguel: Nope, I can't... It complains about the package.
[02:33] <mtyhome> hi
[02:33] <Aaron2> i have athlon 64 laptop
[02:33] <andi5> hello... can somebody tell me how to remove a remote bug watch in launchpad/malone? thanks in advance
[02:33] <Wolfpaws> Ramunas: I do, but I have 32-bit distro
[02:33] <tpm> Wolfpaws: type sudo apt-get -f install
[02:33] <Wolfpaws> hm
[02:33] <Ramunas> Wolfpaws: same here, it scales its frequency depending on load, right?
[02:33] <SuperMiguel> Wolfpaws: sudo apt-get remove -purge <name of the package
[02:34] <Wolfpaws> SuperMiguel: Oh, cool!
[02:34] <bimberi> andi5, try asking in #launchpad as well
[02:34] <SuperMiguel> Wolfpaws: it work?
[02:34] <andi5> bimberi: ok, thanks
[02:34] <Ramunas> Wolfpaws: when it changes the frequency, my screen flickers, do you experience this?
[02:35] <SuperMiguel> Ramunas: is the monitor not the processor
[02:35] <Ramunas> SuperMiguel: please explain
[02:35] <Cartas> tpm:  Thanks old chap!
[02:35] <mtyhome> i need to recompile kernel...where do i find /proc/config.gz ?
[02:35] <Wolfpaws> wooho! Workies! YAy! Thanks, Super  :)
[02:35] <Ramunas> btw, my VGA card is integrated one
[02:35] <SuperMiguel> Ramunas: did you try to change the ressolution?
[02:35] <andi5> mtyhome: there is also /boot/config-*
[02:36] <mtyhome> thx andi5
[02:36] <SuperMiguel> system>preferecnce>screen resolution?
[02:36] <Ramunas> SuperMiguel: no, I didn't, but it only happens when CPU changes its frequency
[02:37] <Ramunas> so I doubt that its the monitor
[02:37] <__zer0__> Can someone help me? after applying the Updates (from the orange button in taskbar) and rebooting, My screen is VERY dim.. except for the X cursor.. bootup and shutdown are normal.. but once you get in to the login screen it goes DIM
[02:37] <__zer0__> can anyone help?
[02:37] <SuperMiguel> ramunas
[02:37] <SuperMiguel> are you overclicking it?
[02:38] <SuperMiguel> overclocking*
[02:38] <Ramunas> SuperMiguel: nope, default Athlon 64 3200+
[02:38] <SuperMiguel> why does it change it frequency?
[02:38] <Ramunas> SuperMiguel: to save energy, and to give out less heat
[02:39] <SuperMiguel> desactivate that function on the bios :S
[02:39] <Ramunas> SuperMiguel: no other way around?
[02:40] <spk> hi
[02:40] <SuperMiguel> are you using any eyecandy to see when your processor change it frequency?
[02:40] <andi5> there is a nice gnome applet for processor steppings... let it be blue :)
[02:41] <Ramunas> SuperMiguel: default gnome panel, but it happen without it too
[02:41] <spk> i'm searching known_hosts for ssh keys, but i can't find it...where is it?
[02:41] <Ramunas> I mean built in frequency monitor in gnome panel
[02:41] <andi5> spk: ~/.ssh?
[02:41] <spk> andi5 no it's not there
[02:41] <SuperMiguel> ramunas
[02:41] <SuperMiguel> desacativate it on the bios to see
[02:42] <SuperMiguel> if thast the problem
[02:42] <spk> i should do something like delete known_hosts because i've changed clients public keys
[02:42] <mercur> i wanted to make my windows partiton smaller and my ubuntu /home partition larger. but there went something wrong and now my /home is "unallocated" how do i get my files on my /home back?
[02:42] <traveller> i'm trying to compile a driver but i get a a warning before it stops compiling: "/usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/scsi_module.c:54: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type"
[02:42] <traveller> am i missing something?
[02:42] <spk> but i've no known_hosts file at all!
[02:43] <andi5> spk: but you know that you accepted adding some keys to this file?
[02:43] <spk> yhea i accepted (wrote yes at the connection) many times
[02:43] <andi5> spk: did you play with sudo?
[02:44] <SuperMiguel> how can i mount a ext3 hard drive
[02:44] <spk> what you mean
[02:44] <jrib> SuperMiguel: system > administration > disks
[02:44] <spk> i always connected by standard ssh simpleuser@ip
[02:44] <andi5> spk: you may look in another users home directory
[02:44] <andi5> ok
[02:44] <SuperMiguel> with a comand line
[02:45] <spk> i've tried also "find / -name known_host" but no success
[02:45] <CoLL1eR> wickedpuppy: It didnt work
[02:45] <jrib> SuperMiguel: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdfoo /path/to/mount/directory
[02:45] <andi5> SuperMiguel: mount $disk $target_dir -t ext3?
[02:46] <__zer0__> Can someone help me!? My screen is REALLY dark since running Ubuntus updates!
[02:46] <andi5> spk: you may start ssh by strace and look at its output,... maybe it can show you more info
[02:46] <mercur>  i wanted to make my windows partiton smaller and my ubuntu /home partition larger. but there went something wrong and now my /home is "unallocated" how do i get my files on my /home back?
[02:46] <spk> i think that ubuntu creates that file in a different location, that's why i had to create .ssh directory in my home directory just to create a brand new authorized_keys2 file
[02:47] <andi5> spk: at least i have a ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[02:47] <amee2k> hi all
[02:47] <CoLL1eR> someone help
[02:47] <spk> that's impossible...damn, i'm working on a brand new ubuntu 6.06 install, i know that it should be there but it is not
[02:48] <SuperMiguel> i can read to it
[02:48] <SuperMiguel> but i can't write :
[02:48] <andi5> spk: but you have a .ssh directory?
[02:49] <spk> andi5: i created it to put into a new authorized_key2
[02:49] <dalfz> What is referred to as "the X root window"? is it the desktop?
[02:49] <spk> andi5: but before that there was not .ssh directory
[02:49] <andi5> spk: did you chmod it to 700?
[02:49] <amee2k> Q: why can't i 'mount -o loop' a CD image from a read-only mounted NFS share?
[02:50] <amee2k> http://h0x.net/p/?x=144
[02:50] <amee2k> i already tried setting permissions to 777 on the file and the directory it is in - no effect
[02:50] <jrib> SuperMiguel: what are the permissions on it?
[02:50] <tk> amee2k: if its read-only, you cant change permissions....
[02:50] <spk> never touched it, simple user-created directory
[02:50] <andi5> spk: then go chmod :)
[02:50] <amee2k> i ssh'ed in to the server
[02:51] <amee2k> only the share is exported read-only
[02:51] <spk> but it works, i mean that authorized_keys2 was working, but now, changing public keys and than authorized_keys2...i should also renew known_hosts
[02:51] <amee2k> any ideas?
[02:52] <andi5> spk: 755 is unsafe, ssh should have told you... i could guess it simply did not create known_hosts because of that
[02:53] <odyssevs> Is there anything on the Ubuntu CD which allows mp3s to be played?
[02:53] <spk> but it's impossible because when i connected ssh asked me the usual yes/no question, so he had to write it somewhere i think
[02:53] <jrib> odyssevs: do you need it to be on the cd or can you use the online repositories?
[02:53] <andi5> spk: did it ask the second time?
[02:53] <odyssevs> jrib, must be on the cd.
[02:53] <amee2k> hm... i can mount the image when i copy it to a local hard drive. why can't i mount it directly while still on NFS?
[02:53] <spk> no only on the first connection, then stop
[02:54] <jrib> odyssevs: ok I ask because I'm not sure what is on the cd, so I have to guess.  Is xmms on there?
[02:54] <odyssevs> apt-cache returns only libflac7
[02:54] <__zer0__> xmms isnt installed by default.. but.. rythmbox is
[02:54] <__zer0__> there are a few others but i forget
[02:55] <spk> also "sudo find / -name known_hosts" returns nothing....i'm becoming crazy
[02:55] <__zer0__> odyssevs, try rythmbox
[02:55] <jrib> __zer0__: rhythmbox won't play mp3's without installing the gstreamer packages right?
[02:55] <andi5> spk: did you chmod the damn directory at least?
[02:55] <superkirbyartist> I would like to import thunderbird mail unto two PCs.
[02:55] <kyja> andi5, easy with the language.
[02:55] <__zer0__> jrib, dunno
[02:56] <spk> andi5: calm domn...just done it, and i have the same problem again
[02:57] <andi5> spk: so why is calling ssh with strace impossible? you did not tell me.... does ssh refuse to work then?
[02:58] <odyssevs> Nope, rhythmbox doesn't like to do mp3s.
[02:59] <__zer0__> letuth me see..
[02:59] <spk> now i'm trying to connect from a Putty (windows) so i've no a clear error, just trying ssh linux session from another client now
[02:59] <__zer0__> ive got my cd right here
[02:59] <odyssevs> totem-gstreamer is installed, so I presume the libs for gstreamer are.
[03:00] <spk> andi5 if a brand new client connects to the server, i have the RSA key question (yes/no) as usual
[03:00] <odyssevs> No applications for GPS position displaying? =(
[03:00] <andi5> at the client?
[03:01] <kdean06> Does anyone have a recommendation for a good program to do video screen captures so I can show off Berly to my Windows friends?
[03:01] <spk> this is the output (i've cleared the ip) Warning: Permanently added 'notknownhost' (RSA) to the list of known hosts.
[03:02] <XiXaQ> kyja, You were very helpful. :) thanks.
[03:02] <SuperMiguel> how can i know my ubuntu version?
[03:03] <jrib> !version
[03:03] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[03:03] <ed_> can someone help with a mount problem i have. the disk is just fine when i use the dapper live cd, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25896/ ... it's really driving me crazy, i've no idea why this is not working. the kernel config supports xfs,otherwise the other xfs partitions would not mount
[03:03] <kyja> XiXaQ, your welcome
[03:03] <odyssevs> cat /etc/lsb-release shows the version
[03:03] <odyssevs> still wondering what lsb stands for.
[03:04] <ubutom> linux standars base, i think
[03:04] <andi5> spk: you saw this at the putty (windows) client, right? is there a known_hosts on this machine now?
[03:04] <ed_> odyssevs, linux standard base
[03:04] <ubutom> *d
[03:04] <ed_> its a guide for distros to comply to so that binary products can interface with things in a standard location
[03:04] <GnarusLeo> using open-ssh server ... how you do a "sudo" if i remote ssh from another machine .. it wont take my password
[03:04] <odyssevs> ed, sure but it is peculiar to ubuntu surely?
[03:04] <odyssevs> I don't recall seeing lsb-release in any other distro.
[03:05] <ed_> odyssevs, why bother with it
[03:05] <odyssevs> Why bother asking?
[03:05] <ed_> why bother with lsb at all
[03:06] <odyssevs> Why indeed.
[03:06] <andi5> GnarusLeo: you can sudo locally, but if you ssh to the machine and run sudo then.... it will not take your password?
[03:06] <GnarusLeo> andi5, correct
[03:07] <andi5> GnarusLeo: does it say something? or does the ssh log file say something?
[03:07] <GnarusLeo> andi5, just "wrong password"
[03:07] <GnarusLeo> andi5, ah .. but I am not a super user i think!
[03:07] <tk> just got Beryl working... very interesting... apparently Konversation doesnt work very well with it though :(
[03:07] <GnarusLeo> andi5, how do I set a new user to be a super user
[03:07] <spk> andi5: i'm in an office right now, i'm chatting from a windows+putty machine (the one that connects no more because of the new public key), but i've tried to connect to the server from another linux machine behind me (never connected before) and i got the question and a working shell
[03:08] <Ych> i need some apache help, is there a good channel for that anyone knows?
[03:08] <tk> #apache maybe?
[03:08] <odyssevs> #apache on undernet.org too.
[03:09] <SuperMiguel> how can i know
[03:09] <SuperMiguel> how is connected to my computer
[03:09] <whyameye> I want to write a script that a user can click on on the Desktop. I wrote the script but instead of executing when I double-click it, the gedit editor opens. What am I doing wrong?
[03:09] <SuperMiguel> like using my ssh server or irc server
[03:09] <odyssevs> netstat not good enough for you?
[03:09] <odyssevs> SuperMiguel.
[03:10] <gzevspero> Hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu, I've completed the first stage and rebooted but in the stage where it says "configuring the base system..." I keep getting the error message "ID "1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes". After five minutes it goes back to "configuring", and then the disabled again, in an infinite loop... any ideas on how to fix this?
[03:10] <frogzoo> GnarusLeo: you don't - use sudo
[03:10] <andi5> spk: full stop for me please :) ... why cannot you connect from putty/win (B) to A (server/ubuntu?), but from C (behind you)? does that really have to do with known_hosts?
[03:10] <argetlam_> anyone know how to handle space when trying to mount samba shares
[03:10] <GnarusLeo> frogzoo, ok ..
[03:10] <odyssevs> is there a way to print raw data from a serial port?
[03:11] <frogzoo> GnarusLeo: but you need to add them to the 'admin' group
[03:11] <SuperMiguel> andi5: what are you tring to do?
[03:11] <Ych> thanks odyssevs
[03:11] <frogzoo> odyssevs: cat /dev/ttyS0
[03:11] <andi5> SuperMiguel: me?
[03:11] <SuperMiguel> yep
[03:11] <andi5> SuperMiguel: i am trying to help spk, but i am not very successful at the moment :)
[03:11] <SuperMiguel> what does spk need :P
[03:12] <andi5> spk needs you ;-)
[03:12] <odyssevs> frogzoo, have my GPS hooked up.. not seeing a thing, is that normal? (GPS is set to transmit data).
[03:13] <spk> andi5 that's because on the windows+putty i've pageant, that work as an agent....if from this windows+putty i connect "without" pageant (so the putty istance ask me the password) it works
[03:13] <SuperMiguel> spk: what do you need to do?
[03:13] <SuperMiguel> spk: i dont get your question
[03:13] <spk> the problem is in the new public key i put into pageant
[03:14] <SuperMiguel> aja?
[03:14] <SuperMiguel> whats wrong with it
[03:14] <andi5> it is new!
[03:14] <malaka_silent> hello
[03:14] <andi5> NIH
[03:14] <malice_> Does anyone know where else I can get this file? I need it for wine. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/release.asp?ReleaseID=32831
[03:15] <frogzoo> odyssevs: you should see something, have you used stty to check line rate & settings?
[03:15] <Zaggynl> malice_, :he download you requested is unavailable. If you continue to see this message when trying to access this download, go to the "Search for a Download" area on the Download Center home page.
[03:15] <Zaggynl> malice_, uhh which thing do you need?
[03:15] <malaka_silent> I am booting Ubuntu live CD and when I click on Start or Install Ubuntu I get: Uncomporessing Linux..... \n incomplete literal tree \n --System Halted
[03:15] <SuperMiguel> malaka_silent: try to press f6 and type acpi=off
[03:16] <spk> the question is: why i don't have known_hosts in my ~/.ssh folder? and before that why i had to create .ssh folder manually after first connection? so the third question is...where is ubuntu 6.06 ssh writing his configurations?
[03:16] <malice_> Zaggynl: I want to install winamp so I can watch video I want the me one
[03:16] <odyssevs> frogzoo, no, I haven't used stty. At this point all I want is to see /any/ sort of data, as useless as it might be.
[03:16] <malaka_silent> ok SuperMiguel I am going to test it
[03:16] <malaka_silent> thanks a lot
[03:16] <gzevspero> What is the swap partition used for? If it's too small, can that cause problems with installing/loading ubuntu?
[03:16] <Zaggynl> malice_, you can watch any video in ubuntu without wine
[03:16] <malice_> Zaggynl: I need it for sidenet
[03:16] <str47> sup
[03:16] <StAfZe6> Hello
[03:16] <frogzoo> odyssevs: why not connect to the serial port with minicom/kermit ?
[03:16] <Zaggynl> malice_, sidenet?
[03:16] <StAfZe6> secret
[03:16] <str47> investigating
[03:17] <frogzoo> odyssevs: if you don't set the line rate properly, bad things happen, including the port locking up so you won't see anything
[03:17] <malice_> Zaggynl: wine-config-sidenet-1.9.2-test2
[03:17] <frogzoo> odyssevs: check out setserial, or use minicom/kermit to set the line rate
[03:17] <odyssevs> frogzoo, with who? Oh. Nothing permanently damaging I hope.
[03:17] <andi5> spk: about which computer are you talking now? i guess putty and ubuntu are incompatible ;-) so do you mean the server?
[03:17] <Zaggynl> malice_, I'm sorry I'm unfamiliar with sidenet
[03:18] <malice_> Zaggynl: well anyways you know how there is streaming audio
[03:18] <odyssevs> frog, Neither programme appears to be available on the CD. (Machine has no network capability.)
[03:18] <Zaggynl> malice_, okay, but you can play that with xmms to
[03:18] <malice_> Zaggynl: well winamp also had it for video
[03:18] <andi5> spk: did you search for known_hosts on the putty machine?
[03:18] <malice_> Zaggynl: and I can not play that with xmms
[03:19] <Zaggynl> malice_, tried it with mplayer? or perhaps kmplayer for a nice gui
[03:19] <spk> andi5 before changing private and public key in putty+pageant i used to connect to the ubuntu_server without any problem
[03:19] <malice_> Zaggynl: I believe I did I will check again, not kmplayer
[03:19] <Zaggynl> okay
[03:19] <andi5> i have no clue about pageant..... and topic suggest i do not have to :)
[03:20] <Dzany> hello! I have problem.I tried to install ubuntu 6.06 for 64 processors.I have old monitor which can't go to 1024x768.I tried to load lower resolution,but it always go in 1024x768.Is there any solution to lower installation resolution?
[03:20] <BrianB04> Good morning all.
[03:20] <Zaggynl> 'morning
[03:20] <spk> but you know that if the client change the public key, the known_hosts reference works no more, so the linux machine use to say that this is a possible "middle attack", the solution should be to renew the known_hosts file by deleting it or something like that...but i have no known_hosts
[03:20] <BrianB04> How goes it this morning?
[03:22] <spk> andi5 ok i mean that it is a difficult boring thing for being saturday
[03:22] <spk> i'll reboot the whole office
[03:22] <spk> thank's...bye
[03:22] <der0b> morning folks, can anyone tell me how to label a vfat volume?
[03:23] <GnarusLeo> root@kimmern-laptop:/home/kimmern# ifconfig eth1 up
[03:23] <GnarusLeo> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Timer expired
[03:23] <GnarusLeo>  <--- anyone know what this is?
[03:23] <BrianB04> I'm just messing with the LiveCD of Ubuntu before wiping my Suse install. I have to say, to any devels in here, I'm impressed.
[03:24] <andi5> SuperMiguel: did you understand that?
[03:24] <andi5> okok
[03:24] <deadly_venom> how can i activate my wireless nic in Ubuntu? Any special commands ?
[03:26] <jpjacobs> hi, i want to change the default background (the one that newly created users get), to my background via the gconftool, how do i do this?
[03:26] <malaka_silent> I typed F6 and then I added "acpi=off" <ENTER> and I got the same error message
[03:27] <malice_> Zaggynl: ok got it to work I just opened up the pls (PLaylist) copy and paste the url and it plays in Mplayer, thanks. Does anyone know of a program that searches for streaming video?
[03:28] <BrianB04> Hey, what was Compiz forked off into, what is the name?
[03:28] <Zaggynl> malice_, you're welcome :)
[03:29] <malaka_silent> any ideas?
[03:30] <GnarusLeo> Is there a command for checking wich wireless adapter I have?
[03:30] <MrFeetio> !.ccd
[03:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ccd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:30] <markeib> how can i let my soundcards be re checked?
[03:30] <MrFeetio> ok i have a .ccd/.cue/.img/.sub what program can burn/mount them?
[03:31] <MrFeetio> i know clonecd can but clonecd is for windows
[03:31] <XiXaQ> is there any alternatives to MS Exchange, like Evolution is an alternative to MS Outlook?
[03:31] <XiXaQ> preferably a compatible one?
[03:31] <BrianB04> OpenGroupware is the one that springs to mind XiXaQ
[03:31] <whyameye> I have a script that runs great with sudo but doesn't return with gksudo. What is the difference between these 2 that I am missing?
[03:32] <XiXaQ> BrianB04, is that compatible with MS Exchange?
[03:33] <BrianB04> Compatible meaning drop in replacement, or compatible as in will work with Outlook?
[03:33] <andi5> jpjacobs: first take a look at /etc/gconf/2/path and choose a reasonable path, i guess xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults (mandatory see at the top)
[03:33] <andi5> jpjacobs: then you can set the key with gconftool-2 --config-source=$source
[03:33] <XiXaQ> BrianB04, I'd like to have some Ubuntu pcs and some Windows XP pcs. Ubuntu users should use Evolution, while Windows users should use Outlook. I'd like to have a linux server to serve both user classes.
[03:33] <Dzany> Can somebody,please tell me how to lower installation resolution?
[03:34] <andi5> Dzany: system->settings->resolution?
[03:34] <XiXaQ> Dzany, could you elaborate on that?
[03:34] <BrianB04> XiXaQ: Yes, it will work with both Evolution and Outlook. Now, I have yet to mess with it, have read into it to do away with my exchange license.
[03:34] <malaka_silent> I am trying to boot from Ubuntu live CD and I get "Uncomporessing Linux..... incomplete literal tree --System halted" then I tryed again with F6 acpip=off and I got the same error message, any ideas?
[03:34] <andi5> jpjacobs: and please tell me whether this works.... i have never tried that :)
[03:35] <Biff> malaka_silent: bad cd maybe?
[03:35] <malaka_silent> maybe
[03:36] <malaka_silent> but someone else has install linux from that particular CD
[03:36] <Biff> have you tried memtest? www.memtest.org
[03:36] <malaka_silent> no
[03:36] <Biff> it should be on the ubuntu cd aswell
[03:37] <malaka_silent> yes it is
[03:37] <malaka_silent> should I try
[03:37] <Biff> when you boot, it should be an option (if i recall correctly)
[03:37] <malaka_silent> yes yes
[03:37] <grub_booter> i have an old laptop here with a broken dvd drive which i'd like to reinstall with xubuntu - it currently has mdk 10.1 on it - only, the dvd drive is broken, so i can't boot it with a cd, but can use a floppy if need be - it's usb 1 with no option to boot off an external dvd - it doesn't have an inbuilt nic, so pcmcia only - the only options i can think of is to take the drive out and install it on another laptop or transplant the drive i
[03:37] <Biff> worth a shot maybe =)
[03:37] <linex> hola
[03:37] <malaka_silent> well ok
[03:38] <malaka_silent> I am going to give it a shot
[03:38] <jpjacobs> andi5: thanks, i'm gonna try that
[03:38] <linex> hello
[03:39] <BrianB04> XiXaQ: I /believe/ it comes on a LiveCD, so you could drop it into an old PC, and see what it's like.
[03:39] <malaka_silent> Biff: when I tryed F6 I just typed acpi=off and hit enter. That's correct, right?
[03:39] <BrianB04> XiXaQ: Yea, it does: Instant OGO
[03:40] <ace> hey guys i was wondering if there is any easy way of changing from the 64bit version of ubuntu that i downloaded to the 32bit version?
[03:40] <reza> .
[03:40] <reza> hi guys
[03:40] <Biff> malaka_silent: try "linux noapic acpi=off" i think
[03:41] <Dzany> I tried to install ubuntu 6.06 64 version,but i have monitor that can't go in 1024x768. I tried to lower resolution of installation,but i couldn't.
[03:41] <malaka_silent> in the command line, right?
[03:41] <reza> i have updated my system to edgy and now the system can not run the Xserver
[03:41] <Biff> yup
[03:41] <Melio> reza what video card do you have
[03:41] <BrianB04> XiXaQ: Ick, to connect outlook using OGO, you have to buy the plugin.
[03:41] <malaka_silent> ok
[03:41] <malaka_silent> brbr
[03:42] <Dzany> Can somebody tell me how to do it?
[03:42] <Melio> dzany what video card do you have?
[03:43] <reza> help help help i need my lovely PC, i have upgraded to edgy and Xserver can not run :(
[03:43] <Guido93> Guido93
[03:43] <Melio> reza, again what video card do you have
[03:43] <XiXaQ> BrianB04, OGO?
[03:43] <XiXaQ> BrianB04, opengroupware.org?
[03:43] <reza> Melio: it is onboard intel, and sorry i am in text base i didn't see ur message
[03:44] <Melio> reza it's ok
[03:44] <BrianB04> Yea. And that plugin, unfortunetly, is 150 euro per license...jeez.
[03:44] <Melio> reza, the output of your xorg.conf needs to be changed -
[03:44] <Melio> reza, is your computer using a flatpanel external monitor, or is this a laptop
[03:45] <reza> Melio: it is a flatpanel ... Samsusng syncmaster
[03:45] <deadly_venom> I want to log on to ROOT (using GUI) .. what is the password?
[03:45] <deadly_venom> (default)
[03:45] <MissLady> anyone can help me please ?  I use Ubuntu and my cable modem don't work since installation.
[03:45] <bbrazil> deadly_venom: there isn't one. use gksudo
[03:45] <Melio> there's no root?
[03:45] <Melio> can I make a root in ubuntu?
[03:46] <bbrazil> !root
[03:46] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:46] <Melio> ehh.. goodneough I guess
[03:46] <reza> Melio: do you know how can i solve this? :)
[03:46] <Melio> reza, edit xorg.conf
[03:47] <Melio> reza, I know your not real familar with vi <-- software to edit files
[03:47] <odyssevs> MissLady, your machine linked by ethernet straight ot the modem?
[03:47] <Melio> you may have jed or something installed that's easyer to use as a text editor in console
[03:47] <Melio> I'm not sure what ubuntu comes with
[03:47] <reza> Melio: what should i change? , Melio i use and love vim :)
[03:47] <Melio> there may even be a script
[03:47] <odyssevs> ubuntu comes with vim
[03:47] <Melio> reza, there may be an xorg config script
[03:47] <Melio> anyone know?
[03:48] <odyssevs> sudo -s
[03:48] <Melio> her flatpanel is taking too much freqency so I'm guessing she needs to remove some lines from her xorg.conf for her monitor
[03:48] <MissLady> odyssevs yes
[03:48] <Astrophix> Hola...
[03:48] <odyssevs> MissLady, any other network adapters you want to use?
[03:48] <MissLady> odyssevs but not with ethernet... with usb cable
[03:48] <deadly_venom> bbrazil so, i can't access root (from gui)
[03:49] <odyssevs> MissLady, *DSL?
[03:49] <Dzany> I have ati radeon x1300pro.Sorry because of my lag
[03:49] <jpjacobs> andi5: yes that works indeed(except that the readonly has to be readwrite ;))
[03:49] <odyssevs> or cable?
[03:49] <Astrophix> While booting the live cd I get messages I/O buffer error on device dm-0. Any idea what this means?
[03:49] <bbrazil> deadly_venom: as I said, use gksudo
[03:49] <MissLady> odyssevs DSL
[03:49] <reza> Melio: i searched for xorg.conf no such file on my system
[03:49] <Melio> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:49] <Melio> reza it's always in /etc/X11/
[03:49] <JJK> Just installed lamp, it boots.. it gives an Error 18 on GRUB loading..
[03:49] <odyssevs> MissLady, ok, who makes the modem?
[03:49] <Astrophix> Looks like a HD problem, but I can't find confirmation...
[03:50] <Melio> Editing or rather saving /etc/X11/xorg.conf needs root authorization, this means you must type sudo ./xorg-edit
[03:50] <reza> Melio: oh, yes it is there :"> what should i change then?
[03:50] <MissLady> odyssevs i use cable modem... when i boot to ubuntu my modem pc activity light don't work
[03:50] <MissLady> odyssevs Motorola SurfBoard 5101
[03:51] <JJK> has someone an idea? it seems to be that my hd is to big :\
[03:51] <odyssevs> JJK, update the bios, if necessary.
[03:51] <Astrophix> While booting the live cd I get messages I/O buffer error on device dm-0. Any idea what this means?
[03:51] <Astrophix> Looks like a HD problem, but I can't find confirmation...
[03:51] <odyssevs> or check jumpers.. make sure you haven't capped it.
[03:51] <odyssevs> MissLady, standby.
[03:51] <grub_booter> JJK: yeah - seen that before - i worked around by partitioning a smallish /boot partition at the start of the disk (8gig iirc)
[03:52] <MissLady> odyssevs it's bizarre because with live-cd all worked
[03:52] <Melio> reza this would be a lot easyer if i ran ubuntu :P
[03:52] <MissLady> ok odyssevs
[03:52] <Melio> reza scroll down and find stuff that looks liek video card configs
[03:52] <JJK> if i start the installation and then partion can you help me out when i get there?
[03:52] <Melio> you might see freqencies
[03:52] <Melio> like 60hz or something
[03:52] <Melio> or 60 - 80
[03:53] <RobM_[away] > Hi all :-)
[03:53] <grub_booter> reza: i would search for "1024x768" and remove all entries in Section "Screen" which are >= to that
[03:53] <RobM_[away] > Away!?
[03:53] <JJK> grub_booter: can you help me if i start the installation over and then partion?
[03:54] <odyssevs> MissLady, I suspect you're on PPPoE?
[03:54] <reza> grub_booter : should i remove all modes like 1024x768 and the rest?
[03:54] <Melio> cable internet is usualy not PPPoE
[03:54] <Melio> it would be if she had to login
[03:54] <djuuss> Hi, does anyone know how to enable the 'nvidia x server settings' without running the program? like, appending them in a config file somewhere
[03:55] <Melio> dhcp should be configured and that's all - her mac address has not changed
[03:55] <chicken_Fire> Hi there. Where could I find changlogs for ubuntu packages?? at http://pacakges.ubunut.com, I can only see the debian changlog...
[03:55] <odyssevs> Melio, aye but she's using an ADSL USB modem.
[03:55] <MissLady> odyssevs what's is PPPoE ?
[03:55] <grub_booter> reza: that's what i'd do - might not be the only thing you need to do (frequency info might need changing for example)
[03:55] <reza> Melio: there is a big part dedicated to monitor written syncmaster and having alot of modes like 1024x768 etc. depth and also graphic card info
[03:55] <MissLady> odyssevs sorry for my poor english
[03:55] <odyssevs> Melio, a Motorola SB5101.
[03:55] <Melio> reza change all the modes to 800x600
[03:56] <grub_booter> JJK: well, should all be simple via the ui installer - though take care - the partitioning tool is a bit fragile...
[03:56] <RobMau> I've been hit by a nasty problem with libnss-ldap: I've configured ldap based hosts lookup, and now nss doesn't work anymore. No logins :-/
[03:56] <JJK> this is what i have: IDE1 master (hda) - 320/1 gb WDC WD3200JB-00KFAO // $1 primary 319gb b ext 3 /media/hda1   #5logical 764.9 gb F swap
[03:56] <Melio> odyssevs,  the problem is she's using a dsl modem, with Usb then
[03:56] <Melio> ubuntu isnt looking to usb for it's network connectivity
[03:56] <infbliss> does the dapper drake dvd have xfce package in it
[03:56] <Dzany> is there a text installation of Ubuntu 6.06?
[03:56] <Melio> it need to be configured to use the usb port
[03:56] <grub_booter> JJK: i found that i couldn't go back after doing the manual partitioning anyway...
[03:56] <JJK> grub_booter: so resize #1 and make #? bot..
[03:56] <RobMau> I've been able to shutdown the ldap server, and usually that solves similar problems, but I'm still locked out
[03:57] <MissLady> Melio ok but why with live-cd it was work ?
[03:57] <JJK> grub_booter: it doesnt matter if anything gets lost
[03:57] <Melio> MissLady, you would be better off using the network cable that can be connected to your dsl modem to the network card on your computer if you have one
[03:57] <Astrophix> While booting the live cd I get messages I/O buffer error on device dm-0. Any idea what this means? Looks like a HD problem (pc reboots while booting windows), but I can't find confirmation...
[03:57] <Melio> MissLady,  differnt detection methods
[03:57] <infbliss> Dzany:yes, you can choose it from the menu that appears when you boot from the cd
[03:57] <grub_booter> JJK: yeah - that makes things easier :-)
[03:57] <Melio> MissLady,  it will work on your ubuntu install provided you configure some basic configs. which I'm not sure
[03:57] <odyssevs> MissLady, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem
[03:57] <Melio> there you go
[03:57] <MissLady> Melio i know but i can't use ethernet cable for problems
[03:57] <JJK> grub_booter: resized to 310.3 gb.. have 9gb free for what.. boot?
[03:58] <Dzany> i couldn't find it.What should i press?
[03:58] <HexDump> hi all
[03:58] <ord> please someone can help me with the ati driver? I can't install him
[03:58] <infbliss> Dzany:you booted from the cd right
[03:58] <Dzany> yes
[03:58] <MissLady> thx a lot odyssevs and Melio :) i'll look url
[03:58] <Melio> MissLady,  no problem, good luck
[03:58] <MissLady> thx ;p
[03:59] <infbliss> Dzany:then you should find a menu item that says "Install in text mode"
[03:59] <argetlam_> I managed to mount my windows network drives so that I can read and execute as a normal user
[03:59] <JJK> #1 primari #6 logica /boot #5 logical swap
[03:59] <argetlam_> how can I set them up to be able to write
[03:59] <argetlam_> I tride using sudo/root with chmod
[03:59] <JJK> grub_booter: should that be oke then?
[03:59] <odyssevs> MissLady, good luck.
[03:59] <grub_booter> JJK: yeah - /boot - should be the first partitition - then the / and then some swap
[03:59] <ord> someone?
[03:59] <MissLady> thx odyssevs :)
[03:59] <hsihh> i used kubuntu of vmware,it worked ok. but after new virtual-installation there is no sound in vmware player. what`s wrong?
[03:59] <reza> Melio: done! should i kill and run gdm now?
[04:00] <grub_booter> JJK: i think so :-) - suck it and see i guess
[04:00] <HexDump> I got some problems will volume control. I have a keyboard from logitech that has a volume wheel. When I use it a volume windows apears but it remains stuck at 0 whatever I move the volume wheel. By the wall, xmms volume control doesnt seems to fork neither. I put sound off for example but it doesn affect mixer, I have to go to the mixer manually and put it all way down. Any help please?
[04:00] <Dzany> i'll try to find it,tnx anyway
[04:00] <zool2005> hi all, is there a program that I can use to quickly transfer the contents of a ftp directory to my computer?  gFTP keeps stalling
[04:00] <reza> Melio: i tried: sudo gdm and sudo Xorg same problem again in both cases :(
[04:01] <JJK> grub_booter: making #1 boot i think thats better
[04:01] <Astrophix> While booting the live cd I get messages I/O buffer error on device dm-0. Any idea what this means? Looks like a HD problem (pc reboots while booting windows), but I can't find confirmation...
[04:01] <ord> someone know how to install the ati 9200se?
[04:01] <grub_booter> JJK: yeah - probably
[04:02] <imac1701> How do I stop ubuntu from dialing up on boot?
[04:03] <Kyja> tuxin farm
[04:03] <reza> grub_booter there is nothing about frequency in the file i changed all modes to 800x600 only but still same problem, any clue?
[04:04] <uNfOrGiViNg> !ping
[04:04] <ubotu> ping: connection timeout
[04:04] <ord> someone?
[04:04] <chicken_Fire> Hi there. Where could I find changlogs for ubuntu packages?? at http://pacakges.ubunut.com, I can only see the debian changlog...
[04:04] <grub_booter> reza: remind me what the monitor was again?
[04:05] <reza> grub_booter : syncmaster 793 samsung flat
[04:05] <reza> grub_booter : i only kept 800x600 mode should i remove that too?
[04:06] <AllanK> hey
[04:06] <reza> grub_booter: modes are defined for different Depths and the default depth is 24
[04:06] <AllanK> someone here say something
[04:06] <uNfOrGiViNg> something
[04:06] <AllanK> huahuahua
[04:06] <AllanK> great
[04:06] <grub_booter> could try a different default depth...
[04:07] <JediMaster> hey all, I've just started getting some problems with mouse lag, only started today, can't figure it out, It may be all of X freezing for a split second every few seconds
[04:07] <grub_booter> reza: i would suggest you google on monitor and xorg.conf - i'm sure all will become clear...
[04:07] <JediMaster> wondering if anyone has any ideas? maybe some irq conflict, or kernel upgrade?
[04:07] <Kyja> thousands of square feet of wild tuxin wildlife reserve for the tuxin to graze, and mate and do all there tuxin things.
[04:07] <reza> grub_booter: do you know how can i surf internet in text base mode? is there any way at all? :(
[04:08] <Chousuke> lynx :)
[04:08] <grub_booter> lynx or links :-)
[04:08] <grub_booter> i prefer the latter
[04:08] <JediMaster> actually it looks like it's just the mouse that is freezing, keyboard works fine as the mouse freezes
[04:08] <afief> How can i install Epiphany?
[04:08] <HexDump> no one
[04:08] <HexDump> can help with that please?
[04:08] <reza> grub_booter: links was for me? or some one else?
[04:09] <grub_booter> reza: you
[04:09] <sasank> hello
[04:09] <sasank> my internet connection is dropping frequently. its wireless
[04:10] <reza> grub_booter: dependency problem when i apt-get install both, any way to solve? :(
[04:11] <sasank> hi
[04:11] <sasank> 'ello
[04:11] <grub_booter> reza: sorry - not sure - wife needs me - gotta scoot
[04:11] <infbliss> sasank:yes
[04:11] <SAM_theman> guys I can't get my printer to work
[04:11] <reza> grub_booter: thanks, have fun :)
[04:11] <SAM_theman> mabye because its new?
[04:11] <infbliss> sasank:have you configured the wireless
[04:12] <SAM_theman> I never got it to work on 5.10 either
[04:13] <SAM_theman> its a Hp deskjet 3653
[04:13] <andi5> jpjacobs: yeah, i just copy'n'pasted the line :)
[04:14] <reza> guys i am trying to install links and it gives me some dependency problems libraries which it says are not going to be installed , any help ?
[04:14] <HexDump> c you all latrs
[04:14] <andi5> reza: do you apt-get install links?
[04:14] <reza> andi5: yes
[04:14] <root> is there any similar function in ubuntu where i can prevent it from booting up into the gui?
[04:15] <root> my kde doesn't work, the screen keeps black
[04:15] <reza> andi5: my X is down so i am trying to install links to surf internet :(
[04:15] <root> so i need a prompt
[04:15] <Guard] [an> hi
[04:15] <andi5> reza: you can also try w3m :) but you mean it just aborts? it does not ask you whether you want to install dependencies?
[04:15] <root> any idea?
[04:16] <Guard] [an> nautilus detects my windows ntfs drive as removable ones, but refuses to mount them when i click
[04:16] <andi5> root: ctrl+alt+f1 does not work?
[04:16] <SAM_theman> guys any suggestions?
[04:16] <Guard] [an> how could i mask them (i want to mask some)
[04:16] <Guard] [an> also how can i mount them (i want to mount some but not all)
[04:16] <root> andi5: i tried alt+f1
[04:16] <deadly_venom> !xorg
[04:16] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:16] <deadly_venom> Rez ^ ^ ^
[04:16] <reza> andi5: aborts and says try apt-get -f and same problem when i do so
[04:16] <root> andi5: will try it now thx
[04:17] <root> andi5: when do i have to press it?
[04:18] <andi5> root: well, as soon as x is going to be started.... then you can try to deactivate gdm (or kdm?) by moving /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm somewhere else...... i hope this will change with upstart someday :)
[04:18] <ed_> what is the kernel version of the dapper cd
[04:18] <andi5> ed_: basically 2.6.15
[04:18] <dredhammer> hey does anyone kow how to frreup space on ubuntu?
[04:19] <andi5> dredhammer: what sort of space?
[04:19] <reza> andi5: how can i type in a box in w3m? i am trying too google some thing but i can not type in the search field :(
[04:19] <dredhammer> i custo compile a lot and now i've used up a lot of space
[04:19] <dredhammer> *custom
[04:19] <dredhammer> but i don't want to lose the apps
[04:19] <GnarusLeo> Makefile.inc:113: *** KERNELPATH: /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build does not exist.  Stop. from where do I get the build?
[04:19] <Kyja> tuxin eat bugs right?
[04:20] <andi5> reza: hm? tab to it and then simply write
[04:20] <defcon8> I'm having problems with setting up my wireless network. iwlist scan finds my router fine. I set the ap to the address of the router and the mode to managed, from iwconfig. when I do iwconfig eth2 key off, I get some kind of error.
[04:20] <andi5> reza: oh, maybe you have to enter <enter> :)
[04:20] <deadly_venom> defcon8 you need ndiswrapper
[04:20] <reza> andi5: seems it is in visual mode
[04:21] <defcon8> deadly_venom, but it is prism
[04:21] <Kyja> defcon8, its not eth0 or eth1 ??
[04:21] <defcon8> Kyja, I have disabled those
[04:21] <Kyja> ic
[04:21] <Guard] [an> how could i mask windows ntfs partitions ??? they are displayed as removable devices in "Places>Computer", there is no corresponding entry in /etc/fstab
[04:21] <Kyja> yeah sudo eth* scanning should have woke everthing up
[04:21] <defcon8> deadly_venom, does ndis already have prism drivers?
[04:21] <andi5> dredhammer: you mean disk space? delete the source directory (assuming you installed prefix-less (/usr/local) or to some other prefix, disjoint from your sources)
[04:22] <Kyja> iwlist eth* scanning that is
[04:22] <deadly_venom> defcon8 what is the wireless nick you got? and what chipset does it use?
[04:22] <reza> andi5: yes :) lol enter and works, is there anything similar to shift-tab in w3m ? tabbing back
[04:22] <defcon8> deadly_venom, don't use a wireless nick. my card is prism chipset
[04:22] <aisha> how do i set up the size of the page in OOo Writer?
[04:22] <andi5> reza: i do not know, will have to look.... but you can go up with the cursor
[04:23] <Kyja> oh wait
[04:23] <deadly_venom> defcon8 prism what? i need the model #
[04:23] <aisha> how do i set up the size of the page in OOo Writer?
[04:23] <defcon8> deadly_venom, I'll try and find
[04:23] <andi5> aisha: format->page?
[04:23] <reza> andi5: hehe such a cool and funny thing never thought a text base web browser like this exists :)) i am an old newbie
[04:23] <dredhammer> ok
[04:23] <matid> Any MIT or Cambridge (UK) student here?
[04:24] <andi5> reza: w3m rocks.... can show pictures in xterm and use the mouse
[04:24] <deadly_venom> mathieu why?
[04:24] <aisha> andi5, thanks!
[04:24] <deadly_venom> matid why?
[04:24] <aisha> lol, didnt know it was that simple...
[04:24] <matid> deadly_venom: I'd like to ask some questions :)
[04:24] <matid> deadly_venom: I'm likely to enroll to one of these
[04:24] <andi5> aisha: yeah, m$ office has it in file.... pretty inconsistent imho :)
[04:25] <Kyja> defcon8, have you tried setting the channel?
[04:25] <reza> andi5: do you know how can i enable mouse in w3m? wowowow !
[04:25] <andi5> reza: x or tty?
[04:25] <andi5> reza: i mean x or console?
[04:26] <reza> andi5: console
[04:26] <andi5> reza: install & configure gpm
[04:26] <deadly_venom> matid  University of Birmingham here, hehe .. Going to States soon! :)
[04:26] <matid> deadly_venom: To which Uni?
[04:27] <matid> deadly_venom: And about the Birmingham, do you work as well as study?
[04:27] <deadly_venom> matid portland state university or oregon university
[04:27] <matid> deadly_venom: Ah, ok
[04:27] <matid> deadly_venom: I'd like to go to MIT, but I'd probably have some problems with getting a VISA
[04:27] <deadly_venom> deadly_venom I don't need to work, bling bling comes to mee anyway :P
[04:27] <stiz> I cannot get my system to run stable on ubuntu no matter what.  I put it on my older system and fell in love with it.  I cannot get it to run on my main system, 6.06 or 6.10.  I ran Win XP 24/7 for 2.5yrs on it without a single crash, I have done memtest for 48hrs+ no errors, I have checked both my maxtor drives with there software and they are error free, my bios is up to date with settings at default, the installation media has been c
[04:27] <stiz> hecked and is error free......... The system locks up very very often with the mouse not moving and the keyboard not working and I have to reset.  Where do I start to problem solve this?  Im on a nice clean install of 6.10 with updates right now, I am pulling my hair out every 15min or sooner having lockup
[04:27] <deadly_venom> matid where are you?
[04:28] <matid> deadly_venom: Poland
[04:28] <matid> deadly_venom: I'm not that lucky :)
[04:28] <matid> deadly_venom: I'll have to work part-time
[04:28] <deadly_venom> matid don't you have some kind of EU passport ?
[04:28] <Bazzi> stiz: what crashes?
[04:28] <defcon8> deadly_venom, windows, which I'm currently on is saying sweex wifi lan nitro xm
[04:28] <defcon8> deadly_venom, but I know it is prism
[04:28] <deadly_venom> matid we're playing 12,000 pound for our univ.
[04:28] <stiz> system locks, mouse wont move, keyboard wont work, I have to reset the system
[04:28] <matid> deadly_venom: No, I don't. Just my id card is ok
[04:29] <Bazzi> stiz: that's weird. are those things connected via usb?
[04:29] <matid> deadly_venom: 12 000 per?
[04:29] <stiz> no task in partiuclar causes it
[04:29] <Ne0nlt> Hi, where i can get xlibs ?
[04:29] <Kyja> stiz, is this like if you idle and a screen saver is supose to activate and lock screen happens ?
[04:29] <gyhu> who has the "naked" wallpapers from previous version of ubuntu?
[04:29] <stiz> the mouse, not the keyboard, but i have tried a standard serial mouse and does the same
[04:30] <deadly_venom> matid me and my bro.
[04:30] <Kyja> stiz, check power management options first.
[04:30] <Kyja> hmmm
[04:30] <matid> deadly_venom: So it's 6000 pounds per person anually?
[04:31] <deadly_venom> ya.
[04:31] <nikin> hy
[04:31] <stonarmusic> hello
[04:31] <deadly_venom> Aston Univ, is 7k pound, which my sister is going to
[04:31] <stiz> kyja: what in the power management ?
[04:32] <matid> deadly_venom: It's 3000 pounds per year at Cambridge
[04:32] <Kyja> stiz, well it gets installed on laptops. I dont know about desk units. but may have a fubar configuration. maybe adjust it.
[04:32] <deadly_venom> matid Birmingham - expensives city.
[04:32] <deadly_venom> I wouldn't know about Cambridge
[04:32] <matid> deadly_venom: Is it 6000 pounds including the living costs?
[04:33] <ompaul> !offtopic
[04:33] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:33] <Kyja> stiz, I am grasping at straws here to avoid a reinstall. =]  I have had to reinstall before to clear up strange things.
[04:33] <Astrophix> While booting the live cd I get messages I/O buffer error on device dm-0. Any idea what this means? Looks like a HD problem (pc reboots while booting windows), but I can't find confirmation...
[04:33] <deadly_venom> matid I live in an apartment, 30 pound a day (with meals)
[04:33] <stiz> i have reinstalled about 8 times
[04:33] <Kyja> stiz, yuck.
[04:33] <matid> deadly_venom: Ok. Can we move to priv? Looks like we're off-topic :)
[04:33] <klees> is there a way in Gaim to log in hidden ala MSN?
[04:33] <ompaul> non ubuntu support conversations in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[04:34] <Kyja> stiz, what is the machine??
[04:34] <Arrick> creative laboratories uses a bizarre format, does anyone know how to read their chm format files?
[04:34] <GoldKeeper> anyone using the 3d desktop thing ? i believe its called xl or something similar ?
[04:34] <Arrick> I know someone in here knows the answer to this, I have seen them answer it before
[04:34] <infbliss> GoldKeeper:xgl
[04:34] <SpComb> xgl, compiz?
[04:35] <ompaul> !xgl
[04:35] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:35] <Dr_willis> !xgl
[04:35] <GoldKeeper> yeah xgl
[04:35] <Dr_willis> and XGL is very very much a work in progress
[04:35] <klees> how about AIGLX?
[04:35] <Kyja> stiz, you may have to go to #ubuntu-bugs for this. perhaps it is your specific machine.
[04:35] <Dr_willis> if you want to test drive xgl - i advise finding  live cd that comes with it to show off the eye candy
[04:35] <rpotthoff> Hello
[04:35] <ompaul> XGL /Compiz and Berel and friends are beta so not supported here
[04:36] <piglit> acordingly to this site http://sources.redhat.com/ml/gdb/2005-12/msg00053.html i need at least 6.4 of version avr-gdb in the repro of ubuntu there is only a 6.3 version what is the best way to get 6.4 unstall avr-gdb with apt-get uninstall avr-gdb and then compile the thing with ./configure --target=avr --prefix=/usr/local/AVR         then #make #make install ????
[04:36] <piglit> unstall = uninstall
[04:36] <ompaul> piglit, what are you trying to install
[04:36] <stiz> motherboard: SOYO sy-p4i875p dragon black label, CPU: p4 northwood, Memory: 2-512mb stix crucial pc3200, Video: Saphire Radeon 9500 (non pro), Chaintech av710 sound card, microsoft laser mouse 6000 usb, plain keyboard, zippy PSU.....
[04:36] <piglit> or will i get in to trouble do-ing this?
[04:36] <geko> unfortunately I have to use ndiswrapper in order for my wireless card to work, I've used all the instructions I could find, and I've already wrote the alias in modprobe.. still, when I type iwlist eth1 scan, it doesnt even take a second to come back with 'no results found,' so im guessing its not activated, or something?
[04:36] <djuuss> Any X config file where you can enter custom brightness/contrast/gamma values?
[04:36] <Arrick> ompaul, reative laboratories uses a bizarre format, know how to read their chm format files?
[04:36] <rpotthoff> can someone tell me where to find the Make binary? I am install VMware and it can not find it.
[04:37] <ompaul> Arrick, no
[04:37] <piglit> ompaul: i need to get avr-gdb version 6.4
[04:37] <Arrick> ok thanks
[04:37] <ompaul> piglit, why?
[04:37] <sp0k34> hello
[04:37] <piglit> i get a error using 6.3
[04:37] <Kyja> radion 9500 non pro ???
[04:37] <Astrophix> djuuss: CHM files are windows help files. Don't know if theres a reader for linux...
[04:37] <ompaul> !avr-gdb
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avr-gdb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:37] <ompaul> !info avr-gdb
[04:37] <infbliss> djuuss:xchm
[04:37] <ubotu> Package avr-gdb does not exist in any distro I know
[04:37] <infbliss> !xchm
[04:37] <ubotu> xchm: Compiled HTML Help (CHM) file viewer for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.2.0-5ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 856 kB
[04:37] <geko> any ideas?
[04:38] <ompaul> piglit, what does this support?
[04:38] <piglit> ompaul: like this error
[04:38] <piglit> http://sources.redhat.com/ml/gdb/2005-12/msg00053.html
[04:38] <Astrophix> While booting the live cd I get messages I/O buffer error on device dm-0. Any idea what this means? Looks like a HD problem (pc reboots while booting windows), but I can't find confirmation...
[04:38] <MikeyMike> hey can someone tell me what the locks mean in this screenshot next to the partitions and why i cant resize them http://xs107.xs.to/xs107/06406/hwaueghaosdg.png
[04:38] <MikeyMike> how do i unlock them
[04:38] <piglit> wel it is a debug program for avr-cgg witch is used to program avr microcontrollers
[04:38] <ompaul> piglit, (A) what are you trying to do (B) with what, and on which version of ubuntu
[04:38] <MissLady> how can i install all usb drivers from ubuntu live-cd package into my new ubuntu installation ?
[04:38] <infbliss> djuuss:you got it
[04:39] <ompaul> piglit, ahh
[04:39] <Guard] [an> how could i mask windows ntfs partitions ??? they are displayed as removable devices in "Places>Computer", there is no corresponding entry in /etc/fstab
[04:39] <MikeyMike> does anyone know what those locks mean....
[04:39] <ompaul> piglit, it is not made for ubuntu?
[04:39] <MikeyMike> hey can someone tell me what the locks mean in this screenshot next to the partitions and why i cant resize them http://xs107.xs.to/xs107/06406/hwaueghaosdg.png
[04:39] <piglit> ompaul: i am using version from ubuntu 6.06
[04:39] <djuuss> ok infbliss astrophix... windows help files?
[04:39] <piglit> ompaul: i got avr-gdb with apt-get
[04:39] <infbliss> djuuss:!xchm
[04:39] <djuuss> !xchm
[04:39] <ubotu> xchm: Compiled HTML Help (CHM) file viewer for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.2.0-5ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 856 kB
[04:40] <geko> Could someone tell me how to get my wireless internet connection activated, after I have installed the correct drivers with ndiswrapper?
[04:40] <infbliss> djuuss:sudo apt-get install xchm
[04:40] <Arrick> they are protected by permissions MikeyMike
[04:40] <piglit> but that is the version with the bug in it
[04:40] <sp0k34> I'm in a little situation, have two 250GB hard drives, a friend is loading them both up 100% with files (large and small files). He needs them to be NTFS, but I need them to eventuall be ""ext3"" for my linux box. Any solutions? I can go out and buy a large external hard drive if that will be the best way?
[04:40] <MikeyMike> Arrick,  how do i fix that
[04:40] <djuuss> hmm that doesnt quite answer my question
[04:40] <ompaul> piglit, it is not in the ubuntu repos so I strongly suggest you get it and compile it for ubuntu
[04:41] <Arrick> MikeyMike, I am not going to try to tell you how to do that, I would only screw you up, but I have had help here before for the very same problem, you are in good hands
[04:41] <ompaul> piglit, apt-get remove --purge avr-gdb << before you start
[04:41] <MikeyMike> okay
[04:41] <ompaul> !compile > piglit
[04:41] <Arrick> just exercise patience, becuase it gets busy in here
[04:41] <ompaul> piglit, how to compile it correctly has been sent to you by the bot
[04:41] <sp0k34> I see that hehe
[04:41] <piglit> thanx!!!
[04:42] <geko> ompaul: do you know what I must do to get my wireless connection active once I have installed the correct drivers using ndiswrapper?
[04:42] <ompaul> piglit, don't know it, it is not in the ubuntu repos so don't run debs unless you know they actually work
[04:42] <MissLady> can i install more than one usb modem drivers to run my modem because it's not listed or i need to try only one at time ?
[04:43] <GoldKeeper> MissLady one at a time is probably best
[04:43] <ompaul> geko, no I don't use wireless except for two linksys which both run ubuntu and openvpn between them :)
[04:43] <MissLady> GoldKeeper: how can i install all usb drivers from ubuntu live-cd package into my new ubuntu installation ?
[04:43] <Kyja> stiz, well have you tried to get any updates to kernel or ati or xorg drivers?
[04:43] <root_> hello
[04:43] <frogzoo> sp0k34: best solution's to use ext2fsd on the windows box to load them up
[04:44] <root_> does anyone know how to switch to superuser?
[04:44] <ompaul> net split
[04:44] <ompaul> !root
[04:44] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:44] <aFx> huh what?
[04:44] <ompaul> root_, ^^^ read that
[04:44] <Astrophix> While booting the live cd I get messages I/O buffer error on device dm-0. Any idea what this means? Looks like a HD problem (pc reboots while booting windows), but I can't find confirmation...
[04:44] <rpotthoff> I know this room is very busy, so i will ask my question again. I am installing VMware Server and it can not find 'make' and is asking me where it is I do not know, can someone tell me where it is?
[04:44] <root_> lol, how come i have root as nick
[04:44] <root_> lol
[04:44] <sidny4> !nvidia
[04:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:44] <Arrick> !make
[04:44] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:45] <Arrick> rpotthoff, ^
[04:45] <GoldKeeper> cause your running in root bro
[04:45] <root_> dude
[04:45] <root_> this is funny
[04:45] <GoldKeeper> very bad practice
[04:45] <sp0k34> frogzoo: what do you mean?
[04:45] <sp0k34> im a newer user
[04:45] <RobMau> Astrophix: can you read your HD from the livecd?
[04:45] <ompaul> root_, go change it
[04:45] <Astrophix> Can mount the hda1 though
[04:45] <Jof> anyone else with problems open irc links in firefox with xchat
[04:45] <Astrophix> RobMau: and read, yes
[04:45] <root_> i know, this isn't right
[04:45] <root_> i used to have sam11 as nick
[04:45] <ompaul> root_, you choose it
[04:45] <deadly_venom> !nidswrapper
[04:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nidswrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:46] <sam11> hi
[04:46] <deadly_venom> !ndiswrapper
[04:46] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:46] <sam11> this is right
[04:46] <RobMau> Astrophix: check if you get errors in /var/log/messages
[04:46] <rpotthoff> I have no idea this is what it is saying hold on I need to write it down
[04:47] <Astrophix> RobMau: Just a basic question (I'm pretty new to linux/Ubuntu), device md-0 is always the HD?
[04:47] <rpotthoff> Setup is unable to find the "make" program on your machine.  Please make sure
[04:47] <frogzoo> sp0k34: there's an ext2 driver for windows
[04:47] <sam11> ok, now how can I get internet working
[04:47] <Seveas> !compiling > rpotthoff
[04:47] <sp0k34> oohh really now?
[04:47] <RobMau> Astrophix: while reading files from your hd, that is. dm-0 could give errors if you didn't use/install it, it's searching for LVM volumes
[04:47] <sam11> I have eternet setup already
[04:47] <Seveas> !ping
[04:47] <ubotu> ping: connection timeout
[04:47] <sam11> ping returns nothing
[04:47] <Astrophix> RobMau: because HDs were hda, hdb, etc...
[04:48] <reza> folks, is there any mp3 player i can run in console mode?
[04:48] <sp0k34> thank you frogzoo
[04:48] <rpotthoff> ?
[04:48] <MissLady> how can i install usb modem drivers from ubuntu live-cd package into my new ubuntu installation ?
[04:48] <RobMau> Astrophix: md0 is a "software raid" like device. dm-0 can be a "Logical Volume manager" device, think windows' Dynamic Disks
[04:48] <jrib> reza: mpg321, mocp
[04:48] <sam11> I have eternet setup already, i'm using dhcp, is that why I can't connect to internet
[04:48] <rpotthoff> Sorry First time using this software
[04:48] <ompaul> Astrophix, no one seems to know, however taking my lead from the info you have there, you say windows does not boot and the same again from ubuntu points at the disk - maybe a reformat to start with
[04:49] <sam11> hello, I'm also using vmware
[04:49] <jrib> reza: if you want mocp, moc is the package name, but mocp is the command
[04:49] <rpotthoff> sam11 did you see this problem?
[04:49] <sam11> which one
[04:49] <RobMau> Astrophix: try to install smartmontools, then use smartctl -a -s on /dev/hda
[04:49] <Astrophix> RobMau: ok, that's some more info I could use. Thanks. Now checking /var/log/messages (on another pc)... bbl...
[04:49] <reza> folks, is there any mp3 player i can run in console mode?
[04:49] <rpotthoff> where it can not find "make" during install
[04:50] <Seveas> !compiling > rpotthoff
[04:50] <rpotthoff> or should I start all over?
[04:50] <Seveas> rpotthoff, read what ubotu told you
[04:50] <oke_leko> no memory problems
[04:50] <sam11> sorry i didn't read your question
[04:50] <oke_leko> and I tryed acpi=off
[04:50] <rpotthoff> I did not see it I will look
[04:50] <Seveas> reza, mpg321, mplayer, cplay
[04:51] <oke_leko> still I get incomplete literal tree
[04:51] <oke_leko> --System halted
[04:51] <oke_leko> any ideas?
[04:51] <sam11> I used vmware to run ubuntu, after installation is done, it cannot connect to internet, ethernet is setup,ping doesn't return anything
[04:51] <RobMau> !ldap
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ldap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <RobMau> :-(
[04:52] <sam11> does internet have to be setup manually or is it already configured after installation of ubuntu?
[04:53] <kishore> how to setpath for java.. in ubuntu
[04:53] <kishore> help needed
[04:53] <Kyja> sam11, depends what net cards you have.
[04:53] <Seveas> !java > kishore
[04:53] <sam11> kishore, u need to edit a file
[04:53] <stiz> is there somewhere to start when problem solving these constant lockups, ive had 2 in the last 15min since ive been on here, any logs I can look at to figure out whats wrong?
[04:53] <GoldKeeper> i havent seen this much activity in a linux channel for some time
[04:53] <CoolkcaH> hi. since I updated the kernel, X doesn't display anything... I tried to do aticonfig --initial in recovery mode and it doesn't work
[04:53] <sam11> add export statement
[04:54] <GoldKeeper> this is impressive
[04:54] <kishore> Seveas, how
[04:54] <kishore> sam11, which file to edit
[04:54] <sam11> kyja, I have an integrated ethernet card, i think the system recognizes it
[04:54] <piglit> ompaul: i made a mistake sorry it is called gdb-avr on the site you sent me but you start it with avr-gdb
[04:54] <SuperMiguel> collkcah are you trying to use ubuntu 6.10?
[04:54] <sam11> but it can't connect to internet, maybe the driver isn't installed correctly
[04:54] <CoolkcaH> no, I have 6.06.1
[04:54] <RawSewage> how do I increase php memory from 8mb to 48mb.  I alredy changed memory_limit on 2 php.ini files, but that didnt change anything
[04:55] <SuperMiguel> !edgy
[04:55] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[04:55] <Seveas> RawSewage, did you restart apache afterwards?
[04:55] <Kyja> sam11, probly will work. my card did but I had to "hack" my broadcom
[04:55] <CoolkcaH> amd64 with fglrx on a radeon 9600
[04:55] <RawSewage> Seveas, I restarted my session
[04:55] <oke_leko> any ideas why I get this message when I am trying to run live ubuntu "uncompressing Linux.... incomplete literal tree --System halted" ?
[04:55] <Seveas> RawSewage, you need to restart apache
[04:55] <RawSewage> Seveas, ok ty
[04:55] <Seveas> oke_leko, because you have a broken CD
[04:55] <rpotthoff> Sorry I looked and I can not find anything that he said to me
[04:55] <Gabby_Hayes> Howdy
[04:55] <sam11> kishore, i couldn't remember,sorry
[04:56] <simp> hello i have a problem with wifi if i try to connect it hangs up at 28% and after a while tells me that knetworkmanager has been dissconnected... my wifi network is secured with wpa1 tkip
[04:57] <sam11> kyja, I used vmware, it's quite slow though, takes forever to load ubuntu
[04:57] <RawSewage> Seveas, that worked.  which ini file that I changed was the one?  apache2 or cgi
[04:57] <Gabby_Hayes> have a new install of ubuntu,  but cannot find a /etc/sources.list  file  for update (but it does an update via the GUI).  any ideas?
[04:57] <Kyja> stiz, #ubuntu-bugs might be helpful. try updating things might be the cure. there is a log viewer app in system>administration>system logs that might report errors
[04:57] <sam11> then found the internet doesn't work
[04:57] <Seveas> apache2
[04:57] <mahound> hey
[04:57] <RawSewage> thx
[04:58] <oke_leko> :/
[04:58] <mahound> i have a raid and want to install ubuntu
[04:58] <SuperMigue1> when i isntall ubuntu edgy and it did all the updates it ask me to reboot the computer when i dod that the xserver wont start what can i do?
[04:58] <RobMau> Gabby_Hayes: it's /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:58] <RobMau> ubuntu bugs! nice tip :-)
[04:58] <Kyja> sam11, you use vmware? hmm
[04:59] <Astrophix> RobMau: Just checked /var/log/messages and it's a 170 kb file. Don't know where to start looking for usefull info...
[04:59] <ompaul> t
[04:59] <mahound> setup won't recognize the existing partitions :/
[04:59] <Kyja> gtg later
[04:59] <Phoul> Anyone got the gpg for  http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper
[04:59] <ompaul> piglit, I had a poke around with the correct package name, 6.4 is in edgy
[04:59] <Phoul> W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[04:59] <tamacracker> Hey guys..
[04:59] <Phoul> I get that error when running sudo apt-get update
[04:59] <ompaul> piglit, edgy is still beta
[04:59] <sam11> kyja, right now i'm not
[04:59] <mahound> ubuntu raid, anyone?
[04:59] <tamacracker> does anyone use Torrents?
[05:00] <sam11> kyja, i run ubuntu in vmware
[05:00] <highneko> Is changing the panel text color possible?
[05:00] <krazykit> tamacracker: yes
[05:00] <tamacracker> i need to find books in torrents
[05:00] <RobMau> Astrophix: you should open a terminal in the running Ubuntu, do a "sudo tail -f /var/log/messages" and then try to read files from the disk. In the terminal you could see disk errors, if they're there
[05:00] <tamacracker> krazykit do you know of a good site that has torrents on books?
[05:01] <krazykit> tamacracker: no.  look for your piracy elsewhere.
[05:01] <tamacracker> >.> already then.
[05:01] <Max81> hi all
[05:01] <timalot> torrents are associated with piracy? :)
[05:01] <xenoNfluX> lol
[05:01] <Phoul> W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[05:01] <Dr_willis> timalot,  im downloading a LEGAL linux iso with one right now... :)
[05:01] <Phoul> Anyone got the gpg for  http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper
[05:01] <xenoNfluX> could have just pointed him here... http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page
[05:01] <Max81> can anyone help me installing the savageddr drivers on ubuntu plz? thanks
[05:02] <timalot> Dr_willis: so u are a Linux pirate :)
[05:02] <krazykit> timalot: only when he's asking for copywrighted material, like books.
[05:02] <xenoNfluX> krazykit, next time, point them to Project Gutenberg :)
[05:02] <CoolkcaH> anyone with an ati that can help me?
[05:03] <Dr_willis> timalot,  guess so. :P
[05:03] <deadly_venom> My wireless connection is activated and running, but I cannot browse my internet, why is that?
[05:03] <mahound> ubuntu raid, anyone?
[05:04] <sam11> kishore, did you get it to work
[05:04] <RobMau> mahound: me, software raid.
[05:04] <kishore> sam11, no
[05:05] <sam11> kishore, i was searching online and found it's in bashrc file
[05:05] <mahound> RobMau, ubuntu setup won't detect my existing partitions
[05:05] <Max81> does anyone know how to install the Savage DDR drivers in ubuntu? thanks
[05:05] <Negative_Infinit> what is the most efficient theme for gnome in terms of speed?
[05:06] <stiz> I am guessing that the log i want to figure out why I am having constant lockups is the 'debug' log?
[05:06] <kishore> sam11, ??
[05:06] <RobMau> mahound: did you use software raid? Or some controller based raid?
[05:06] <sam11> i'm still looking for the path
[05:06] <mahound> controller, RobMau
[05:07] <Gabby_Hayes> thxs  RobMau  .. even the  'find'  command didn't find it  :-(
[05:07] <piglit> ompaul: when i do  sudo apt-get upgrade gdb-avr i tell's me there is no new version, and when i do avr-gdb -v i get GNU gdb 6.3
[05:07] <CoolkcaH> no one here with an ati??
[05:07] <Astrophix> RobMau: tail doesn't stop spitting errors... even without starting to read from disk...
[05:07] <malice> Does anyone in here know how to use Penguin Tv? If so I have a question
[05:07] <Gabby_Hayes> what ATI  do you have, CoolkcaH  ?
[05:07] <CoolkcaH> 9600xt with fglrx drivers
[05:08] <timalot> CoolkcaH: i have a radeon 9200 with Xorg dri ...
[05:08] <Negative_Infinit> malice, go ahead and ask.
[05:08] <CoolkcaH> X stoped working when I updated the kernel
[05:08] <RobMau> Astrophix: which kind of errors? Don't paste them here, use the pastebin in the topic, or open a private session with me
[05:08] <deadly_venom> My wireless connection is activated and running, but I cannot browse my internet, why is that?
[05:09] <Astrophix> Example (sorry for the flood):
[05:09] <Astrophix> Oct  7 17:08:22 ubuntu kernel: [17181802.732000]  hda: task_in_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
[05:09] <Astrophix> Oct  7 17:08:22 ubuntu kernel: [17181802.732000]  hda: task_in_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=6147549, sector=6147549
[05:09] <Astrophix> Oct  7 17:08:22 ubuntu kernel: [17181802.732000]  ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[05:09] <Astrophix> Oct  7 17:08:22 ubuntu kernel: [17181802.732000]  end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 6147549
[05:09] <ompaul> !timtables > piglit#
[05:09] <RobMau> Donnnt!
[05:09] <ompaul> !timtables > piglit
[05:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about timtables - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:09] <ompaul> !timtable > piglit
[05:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about timtable - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:09] <Seveas> ompaul, timEtable?
[05:09] <ompaul> !paste
[05:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:09] <malice> negative_infinit, I do not relaly know how to use it how do I get it to show me the channels? I would like to watch videos
[05:09] <SS2> Astrophix: please use a nopaste
[05:09] <Astrophix> Sorry...
[05:09] <ompaul> Seveas, error-no-such-clue
[05:09] <ompaul> !timetable
[05:09] <RobMau> Astrophix: you should NOT paste logs here, use the pastebin
[05:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:10] <RobMau> Astrophix: that said, your disk or your motherboard/controller is hosed ^^'
[05:10] <malice> negative_infinit, I do not  know how to use it how do I get it to show me the channels? I would like to watch videos
[05:10] <deadly_venom> My wireless connection is activated and running, but I cannot browse my internet, why is that?
[05:11] <Seveas> ompaul, do you still have that python thing I once wrote for you?
[05:11] <CoolkcaH> anybody with an Adapted SCSI controller? mine takes forever to be detected on boot and mount the filesystem
[05:11] <CoolkcaH> *Adaptec SCSI
[05:12] <ompaul> Seveas, dict?
[05:12] <Astrophix> RobMau: Doesn't sound good, motherboard/controler hosed...
[05:12] <ompaul> Seveas, or something else?
[05:12] <ompaul> Seveas, msg me
[05:13] <Astrophix> RorMau: Which means mum and dad need to learn to work with this live cd fast :-)
[05:13] <RobMau> Astrophix: it is not. I had a similar problem here, and I had to replace the disk
[05:13] <RobMau> Astrophix: try to use the CD to recover as much files you can
[05:13] <JJK> ah can someone help me :) just did the command vi /etc/network/interfaces editted so i get a static ip.. but how to save it? :)
[05:14] <deadly_venom> JJK press ESC , type :wq .. [enter] 
[05:14] <timalot> esc :wq!  i think but then again i use emacs
[05:14] <malice> Does anyone know how to get a list from PenguinTv? I hit refresh and nothing do I have to add links? If so where do I get them?
[05:14] <Astrophix> Yeah, can upload the disk to an ftp server on the lan, then figure out whether the disk is faulty or not...
[05:14] <JJK> ah thanks :)
[05:14] <deadly_venom> JJK works?
[05:15] <JJK> yes
[05:15] <RobMau> Astrophix: USB drives/pendrives also could be of some use :-)
[05:15] <JJK> reopend it and i saw it was still standing
[05:15] <brenlae> hey, i just have to say, i really love ubuntu :D
[05:15] <Negative_Infinit> malice: list? i thought you need to add in your feeds manually
[05:15] <Negative_Infinit> on my installation it worked like a snap
[05:15] <brenlae> i'm at my mom's house now, so i'm not on it now :(
[05:15] <Astrophix> RobMau: thanks for all the help, and the hint on the pastebin :-S
[05:16] <_marko> how to install edgy eft that it doesn't load live linux first on screen?
[05:17] <brenlae> netsplit D:
[05:17] <stiz> I am getting a tiny bit frustrated, it is hard to get help with a problem in chat or forums when all i can say is "the system locks up, keyboard doesn't respond, mouse doesn't move, and I'm 100% positive its not the stability of my hardware, and its constantly repeatable over and over again, reinstall after reinstall, nice clean system with updates...."  nobody knows where to start, guesses its probably something ive done wrong or its 2
[05:17] <stiz>  hard of a task to problem solve, I am not mad just frustrated it wont work on this particular machine and I would like to find out why not just for me but for somebody out there with the same problem who is probably back on winxp right now, its nobodies fault
[05:17] <The_Evil_One> yep
[05:17] <brenlae> well, ubuntu seems stable enough for me
[05:18] <The_Evil_One> have you tried a full reformat?
[05:18] <simp> where is konqueror located?
[05:18] <mister_roboto> _marko: use the alternative install disk
[05:18] <Armend> anyone: i have downloaded the Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS (Dapper Drake) and i recorded myself in a CD
[05:18] <timalot> sitz does it do even in recovery mode (or safe mode whatever its called)
[05:18] <sam11> kirshore, are you still there
[05:18] <yokobr> hi, i want to know the best OS for old machines, that easily runs on a K-6 300
[05:19] <Armend> the problem is that it doesn't boot when u restart the PC
[05:19] <simp> yokobr: xubuntu
[05:19] <timalot> stiz i mean
[05:19] <holzmodem> hi im try to compile sim-im 0.9.5 ... but i can't find the required package "kde-config" (using gnome)
[05:19] <Armend> Can anyone help me ??
[05:19] <dyn-afk>  and i recorded myself in a CD << ROFL, so you are on a cd? :P
[05:19] <simp> lol
[05:19] <sam11> kishore, do you have aim
[05:19] <_marko> mister_roboto: auch, now I need to download also that :(.. install doesn't go anywhere from timezone selection.. but I can start other programs normally from live environment
[05:19] <simp> Armend: whats your problem?
[05:19] <yokobr> still too heavy
[05:19] <kishore> sam11, ya
[05:19] <earthian> how do i check if my GFX supports pBuffer ?
[05:19] <Armend> simp may we talk in private ?
[05:19] <kishore> sam11, i am trieng to solve that
[05:19] <simp> Arm
[05:19] <yokobr> i tryied xubuntu. but still slow
[05:20] <earthian> and FBA or whatever. i want to move to xgl/compiz :)
[05:20] <kishore> sam11, did u got solution
[05:20] <mister_roboto> _marko: yes, the alternative install will give you a text-based installer without running linux
[05:20] <sam11> ok, i'll im you once i get the path
[05:20] <simp> Armend: im fine with that join #armend
[05:20] <RobMau> yokobr: how much RAM do you have?
[05:20] <mister_roboto> _marko: works better on low memory systems too
[05:20] <yokobr> 64
[05:20] <krazykit> yokobr: slackware or xubuntu.
[05:20] <Gabby_Hayes> yokobr  ... don't use a GUI .. just a command line interface on slow boxes
[05:20] <grub_booter> earthian: glxinfo | grep -i pbuffer
[05:20] <yokobr> xubuntu is still too heavy
[05:21] <earthian> thanks mr grub_booter o/
[05:21] <kishore> sam11, wot??
[05:21] <yokobr> isnt there GUI's that take less memory?
[05:21] <grub_booter> earthian: np
[05:21] <earthian> mh
[05:21] <earthian> omg
[05:21] <RobMau> yokobr: 64 is really low. You can try windowmaker, but you have to install it by yourself (no wubuntu :-) )
[05:21] <Gabby_Hayes> yokobr  .. yes,  xfr  (iirc)
[05:21] <gwilma> Hello everyone. Is there a simple equivalent to windows' "map network drive" for ubuntu?
[05:22] <earthian> grub_booter, i do not get any output.. does that mean that radeon x850xt drivers does not support pbuffers? ;(
[05:22] <yokobr> ok, thanx you guys!
[05:22] <yokobr> i was thinking about qnx or beos
[05:22] <grub_booter> earthian: yup - if you run 'glxinfo | less' you'll see all the opengl capabilities...
[05:22] <_marko> is 450MHz P3 with 256Mb memory fast enough to run Gnome smoothly?
[05:22] <Dr_willis> gwilma,  i tend to use kde, and smb4k - lets you mount a windows share to a directory eaially..  not sure if gnome has an equilivent thing..
[05:23] <sam11> kishore, are you on aim now
[05:23] <kishore> sam11, wot
[05:23] <kishore> sam11, i cant get u
[05:23] <sam11> AIM
[05:23] <mister_roboto> _marko: i ran kde on such a system and it was pretty sluggish but everything ran
[05:24] <gwilma> Dr_willis: cheers - I'll have a look for a gnome equivalent. Is smb4k quite user-friendly?
[05:24] <krazykit> _marko: check out xubuntu.  xfce is lighter but nearly as full-featured.
[05:24] <argetlam_> how can I get a windows ntfs share to be writeable when I mount it?
[05:24] <sam11> kishore, do you have aim
[05:24] <sam11> so once i get the solution i'll let you know
[05:25] <kishore> sam11, aim
[05:25] <kishore> sam11, ???
[05:25] <Dr_willis> gwilma,  i like it..  you may want to check out the "FUSE" samba filesystem tools as well  it has no fancy GUI. but its more customizable
[05:25] <sam11> aol messenger
[05:25] <infoB> hello. i want to set up boot manager, but i don't know which one ubuntu uses by default nor how to access it.
[05:25] <timalot> argetlam_: ask bill gates... u need to do that on the windows side of things ? generally u need to set the share permissions and the ntfs permisssions correctly
[05:25] <Dr_willis> argetlam_,  that can be dangerous to the health of the ntfs filesystem
[05:25] <unimatrix9> hello there
[05:26] <Dr_willis> argetlam_,  wait a sec.. rephrase that.. you are shareing a ntfs drive from a windows machine?
[05:26] <ghostshadow189> hi all , i'm trying to install icewm "sudo apt-get install icewm icewm-gnome-support" , but it warn me error : "E: Couldn't find package icewm"
[05:26] <unimatrix9> how can i scan and see wireless accespoints, with default ubuntu?
[05:26] <krazykit> !info icewm
[05:26] <ubotu> icewm: wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.23-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 629 kB, installed size 1632 kB
[05:26] <ace> can someone explain to me if its easy or not to switch from the 64bit ubuntu that i downloaded to the 32bit?
[05:26] <kishore> sam11, no
[05:26] <krazykit> ghostshadow189: guess you need to enable universe
[05:26] <argetlam_> Dr_willis: yes the share is on a seperate windows machine that is attached through the network
[05:27] <kishore> sam11, i dont know about it :(
[05:27] <ghostshadow189> oh , i'll try
[05:27] <kishore> ubotu, aim
[05:27] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[05:27] <kishore> sam11, hey i hav gaim
[05:27] <argetlam_> When I use the ubuntu network gui I can change add delete files
[05:27] <unimatrix9> is there an tool that shows wireless accespoints
[05:27] <unimatrix9> ?
[05:27] <sam11> yea, what's your screenname
[05:27] <ace>  can someone explain to me if its easy or not to switch from the 64bit ubuntu that i downloaded to the 32bit?
[05:27] <infoB> hello. i want to set up boot manager, but i don't know which one ubuntu uses by default nor how to access it.
[05:27] <kishore> sam11, krishna_kishore86@yahoo.co.in
[05:28] <timalot> infoB: grub
[05:28] <kishore> sam11, wots yours
[05:28] <argetlam_> I'm trying to use the drive as a repo for music and my 3d models that I would like to modify from blender gimp audacity etc
[05:28] <ace> ubuto, grub
[05:28] <krazykit> ace: no, it's not.  you'll need to reinstall
[05:28] <sam11> i'm using AIM, yymobile
[05:28] <reza> help plz! is there any messenger(yahoo messenger) i can run in console?
[05:28] <krazykit> reza: yes!  bitlbee, and soon, gaim-text
[05:28] <ace> krazykit: so i have to format my hdb and reinstall the 32bit? thanks
[05:28] <infoB> timalot, is there a gui for grub?
[05:28] <fredl> does anybody know how I can use network-manager but also use a static IP address?
[05:28] <argetlam_> in order for those apps to see the drive though i need to mount it which I accomplished but they can't write to it because the mount doesn't have the permissions
[05:28] <reza> krazykit : thanks !
[05:29] <Wulong> Would I fuck something by adding a debian repositori? since I want it's xfce packages
[05:29] <timalot> infoB: i dont know ... maybe the man page will tell u
[05:29] <kishore> sam11, then how..
[05:29] <deadly_venom> My wireless connection is activated and running, but I cannot browse my internet, why is that?
[05:29] <infoB> timalot, thnx
[05:30] <ace> ubotu, resolution
[05:30] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:30] <timalot> deadly_venom: does your irc work?
[05:30] <kishore> sam11, between how to find the datamembers and member funcations using javap in ubuntu
[05:30] <kishore> sam11, i mean usage of javap
[05:30] <bagster> hi - I have a problem with a usb mouse - whenever i try to plug in a wireless microsoft uss mouse the system freezes. Likewise, when a usb intellimouse explorer is plugged in the mouse is jerky and unresponsive. I have both a ps/2 and a serial mouse that work perfectly with the system
[05:30] <fredl> deadly_venom, are you using network-manager?
[05:31] <digilink> I have an existing Ubuntu installation on my pc, and I would like to install windows and dual boot while keeping my current install intact, does anyone know of a howto or wiki to do this? I have some ideas, but I dont want to hose my install.....
[05:31] <sam11> don't know about javap
[05:31] <fick> hey, i had my ndiswrapper working until i upgraded to "drapper"
[05:31] <timalot> digilink: same harddrive?
[05:31] <kishore> sam11, javac is working but javap is not working
[05:31] <ghostshadow189> should i enalble all in sofware properties ?
[05:32] <digilink> timalot: yes
[05:32] <deadly_venom> fredl system > networks
[05:32] <sam11> what is javap?
[05:32] <deadly_venom> fredl system > administration > networks
[05:32] <gwilma> Dr_willis: I'll have a look at it - I don't mind some command-line work, but I'd like something quick & easy to use if poss
[05:32] <timalot> digilink: windows hates not being first.... ie it really needs to be the first partition on the hdd
[05:32] <fredl> deadly_venom, Hrmm, that's not what I meant to ask :)
[05:32] <sam11> kishore, you restart linux and try to see if javac still works
[05:32] <deadly_venom> fredl are we suppose to run network-manager
[05:32] <deadly_venom> ?
[05:33] <RobMau> Anybody here has a setup using NSS+LDAP, and some time to do a test?
[05:33] <kishore> sam11, y.. some works r in progress
[05:33] <digilink> timalot: I was afraid of that, I do however have a second hdd I could partition and install to and then I think it would be a matter of adding it to grub?
[05:33] <fredl> deadly_venom, nope, if you're a newbie it's absolutely not recommendable to use network-manager.
[05:33] <sam11> did you do export in command line
[05:33] <mister_roboto> kishore: javpa?
[05:33] <argetlam_> any idea Dr_willis
[05:33] <ghostshadow189> hi all , should i enalble alls in sofware properties ?
[05:33] <mister_roboto> kishore: i mean "javap"?
[05:33] <fredl> deadly_venom, ignore my question.
[05:33] <Ych> is there a way i can change to location of a dir within my / ? eg i want /media/sda1 to be instead called.... /home/user/extradrive or something like that?
[05:34] <fick> and now i have network access at all....any clues
[05:34] <deadly_venom> fredl alright then - any other way?
[05:34] <linkd> I wonder if anyone can help me. When I am using the repeat function for input on my keyboard (i.e. hitting a key and holding it), then I move my mouse, the key repeat gets interupted and pauses for a second or two. Does anyone know why that might happen?
[05:34] <bagster> can anyonhe help with my mouse problem ?
[05:34] <kishore> mister_roboto, yep it typop mistake here
[05:34] <fredl> deadly_venom, sure, do you see your AP when you do iwconfig scanning?
[05:34] <fick> i orginally would load my windows drivers with "ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf"
[05:34] <kishore> sam11, ya exported
[05:35] <fick> that works
[05:35] <deadly_venom> fredl I'm not using ap, but a router
[05:35] <timalot> digilink:  u would pull your current hdd out , put it has slave ... and put the windows as master... then u need to load linux somehow (cd eg) and run grub
[05:35] <unimatrix9> roaming wireless, are there some tools for that on ubuntu?
[05:35] <fredl> deadly_venom, ehrm.. you need an AP.
[05:35] <deadly_venom> !ap
[05:35] <jazzrocker> 2Gig of RAM baby! woot!
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <deadly_venom> access point ?
[05:36] <deadly_venom> fredl access point ?
[05:36] <fick> that works fine
[05:36] <JJK> in putty SSh-client is it possible to copy past in there?
[05:36] <sam11> kishore, if you did it in command line, it's temporary
[05:36] <unimatrix9> yes acces points
[05:36] <kishore> sam11, so
[05:36] <digilink> timalot: well, my currrent config is this: I have a 160gb SATA drive that I am using my current install on, and a 120gb IDE drive that I want to partition and put windows on, I also store all my backups there, is there a way to point grub to that drive and have it boot from that when I want to?
[05:36] <fick> but when i try a do a "modprobe ndiswrapper" it fails
[05:36] <sam11> after reboot, when u type javac in command line it won't recognize it
[05:37] <mister_roboto> JJK: you mean like when you're redirecting X programs through your ssh connection?
[05:37] <mister_roboto> JJK: aka X forwarding?
[05:37] <infoB> help, is there a grub GUI?
[05:38] <kishore> sam11, ah!!
[05:38] <JJK> yeah i think so i have a long line of apt-get install.. and typing over the command is a long way ( in ubuntu-desktop > ssh-client > ubuntu-server
[05:38] <linkd> JJK: the right mouse is the default "paste" action, to copy just highlight the text
[05:38] <Ych> is there a way i can change to location of a dir within my / ? eg i want /media/sda1 to be instead called.... /home/user/extradrive or something like that?
[05:38] <kishore> sam11, but previosly javac.....working properly na
[05:38] <PseudoPlacebo> In the Ubuntu server installation where is the MySQL folder located?
[05:38] <kishore> ubotu, javap
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about javap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <kishore> ubotu, javac
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about javac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <sam11> kishore, it's what happened to me last time when i tried to export the java bin to path
[05:38] <kishore> sam11, oh!
[05:39] <JJK> :linkd copy line in a webpage > past in ssh-client
[05:39] <SpComb> your colon is on the wrong side
[05:39] <timalot> digilink: i pretty sure u can do that but. u may have problems if linux is on a the first disk, i ve not done this sort of thing in a while so i dont know if there are better ways of doing this ... check the ubuntu community wiki
[05:39] <linkd> middle mouse in she copy button in X, select the text, go to where you wanna paste it, hit middle mouse button
[05:40] <digilink> timalot: thx for ur help, Im gonna give it a shot :)
[05:40] <fick> is there a driver i can download for the bcm4318 chipset (broadcom)
[05:40] <fick> then i would not have to use ndiswrapper
[05:40] <mister_roboto> JJK: ok, doesn't sound like you're talking about X. anyway, cutting/pasting is the same as anywhere else, just hightlight and middle click to paste
[05:40] <deadly_venom> fredl access point ?
[05:41] <SpComb> Ych: mv. But things in /media are often created automatically, so you will have to adjust whatever it is that creates them
[05:42] <SpComb> well, you can't move mount points, you have to unmount it and then mount it again
[05:43] <Ych> SpComb, ok, thanks ill look into it
[05:43] <bagster> Sorry - can anyone help me with my mouse problem - plugging in a wireless usb microsoft mouse causes my system to freeze. If I plug it in and then boot, ubuntu freezes when booting the gui. Anyone know how to sort this
[05:43] <JJK> :mister_roboto thanks that works middle mouse button
[05:43] <Ych> !ntfs
[05:43] <Ropechoborra> Is there some way to see who is conected to one of my services? (Like IRCD or Apache..) ?
[05:43] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:43] <ashmop> What do you mean plug in a wireless mouse ?
[05:43] <ashmop> That was to bagster
[05:44] <bagster> ashmop - plub the reciever into the computer
[05:44] <bagster> ^plug
[05:44] <kishore> sam11, if u got solution just pm me
[05:44] <mister_roboto> JJK: and linkd as well... didn't see that he gave you the answer first :)
[05:44] <klees> can someone help me mimic Ubuntu's partition setup through commands?
[05:44] <linkd> I wonder if anyone can help me. When I am using the repeat function for input on my keyboard (i.e. hitting a key and holding it), then I move my mouse, the key repeat gets interupted and pauses for a second or two. Does anyone know why that might happen? and I can't seem to find anything on it
[05:44] <Topslack> Is their any good way to tightly inegrate the DNS and DHCP server so that when a DHCP address is assigned the record is created in DNS to make it pingable?
[05:44] <sam11> sure,kishore
[05:44] <kishore> brb
[05:44] <Topslack> er..pingable by host name
[05:45] <mister_roboto> Topslack: i use dyndns.org with a small client that keeps updating the dyndns record periodically
[05:45] <mister_roboto> Topslack: they have several clients listed there for various OS's
[05:45] <RobMau> Topslack: you're talking about a local lan, I think?
[05:45] <Topslack> well, that does work but I mean local lan
[05:46] <Topslack> yeah RobMau
[05:46] <RobMau> You can integrate the ISC dhcpd and bind, but it's not completely trivial... you should try a guide
[05:46] <mister_roboto> Topslack: ok, nm  :)    don' t know
[05:47] <Topslack> RobMau can you reccomend one?
[05:47] <RobMau> Maybe there's something in the wikis, but I'm still too new to ubuntu to point you somewhere
[05:47] <Topslack> RobMau new to linux or just ubuntu?
[05:47] <RobMau> just ubuntu :-)
[05:47] <Topslack> I'm not tied to Ubuntu if you can point me to a good doc for another flovor of linux
[05:48] <RobMau> Well, I'd try to google it. There should be a HOWTO
[05:48] <RobMau> let me try
[05:48] <Topslack> I just can't seem to get the working right
[05:48] <Topslack> if I use linux and integration it's all about windows integration
[05:48] <Topslack> I just can't seem to find a good doc
[05:49] <reza> help plz ! i have updated to edgy but X can not run and i have changed xorg.conf to vga and vesa and tried to change resolution but no success
[05:49] <Topslack> reza did you try 'X -configure'
[05:49] <Topslack> what is the error?
[05:49] <RobMau> I did it some years ago, but I had to use several docs... now things should be far better, since you can find also docs on how to setup LDAP authentication (I spent a month doing it a couple years back)
[05:49] <Tabias> people are saying to install pwc for webcamuse with Kopete. Problem is, I don't know how :s. Downloaded the package
[05:50] <reza> Topslack: could u plz tell me what exactly should i do ?
[05:51] <Topslack> reza.. Did you try to run the command 'sudo X -configure' that is exaclty what I want you to do...
[05:51] <elias_> Still don't know, can I use AIGLX in dapper with nvidia proprietary drivers? I guess at least not with the ones which come with dapper.
[05:51] <Ropechoborra> I mounted a fat32 with the diskmounter script... but i cant change the permissions... what should i modify in the fstab?
[05:51] <Topslack> I'm not going to fix it for you... just offering some help. It's an OS not the end of the world
[05:51] <deadly_venom> My wireless connection is activated and running, but I cannot browse my internet, why is that?
[05:52] <Topslack> deadly_venom... cause you set it up wrong. can you ping the router?
[05:52] <defcon8> Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :
[05:52] <defcon8>     SET failed on device ra0 ; Invalid argument.
[05:52] <sam11> kishore,
[05:52] <Topslack> can you ping outside address?
[05:52] <PseudoPlacebo> In the Ubuntu server installation where is the MySQL folder located?
[05:52] <kishore> sam11, ya
[05:52] <defcon8> well, that's like the error I got but for eth2
[05:52] <defcon8> does anyone else get this error when trying to set the key to open on wireless?
[05:52] <sam11> i think it's in /etc/bash/bashrc
[05:52] <defcon8> I've googled, and it seems to happen when setting a wep key aswell, but there seem to be no solutions
[05:52] <defcon8> I'd be very grateful for some help, here
[05:53] <highneko> I got aiglx, and beryl working. The windows look a little blocky when they move, I probably have a setting off, any ideas?
[05:53] <deadly_venom> Topslack Network is unreachable
[05:53] <reza> Topslack : failed to load module vga, vesa and some more (module requirement mismatch 0)
[05:53] <mram> hello people.
[05:53] <elkbuntu> highneko, try asking in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:53] <kishore> sam11, bashrc not found
[05:53] <sam11> PATH="${PATH}:/usr/local/jdk/bin" to export everything in jdk/bin to path
[05:53] <sam11> in /etc/bash
[05:53] <mram> I was wondering what you guys think about the whole firefox and debian situation
[05:53] <wobble> can anyone offer any advice? i have a problem in dapper where my monitor is always off when i boot up. the only way i can turn it on is by typing 'aticonfig --enable-monitor tmds1' i've tried running 'aticonfig --force-monitor=tmds1' but that doesn't help.
[05:54] <defcon8> anyone, please?
[05:54] <reza> Topslack : also Xorg is not able to detect mouse
[05:54] <earthian> hey, does Ign sign (which i think is smth to do with a word 'ignore') mean bad in apt-get update ????? and if not what does that mean???
[05:54] <earthian> thanks ^^^
[05:54] <elkbuntu> mram, this isnt the channel for idle chatter. #ubuntu-offtopic takes that purpose
[05:54] <highneko> elkbuntu: Thought I was there, sorry.
[05:54] <sam11> or maybe ubuntu doesn't have it
[05:54] <defcon8> ffs
[05:54] <Ych> !nfs
[05:54] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[05:54] <kishore> sam11, not even bash
[05:55] <mram> elkbuntu, ahh ok then nevermind
[05:55] <sam11> at least javac works,
[05:55] <earthian> !apt
[05:55] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:56] <reza> help plz ! i have upgraded to edgy and X can not run and when i type X-configure lots of errors appers :(
[05:56] <defcon8> can someone please help me?
[05:57] <johng> Pseudo, try something like /dev/hdax /media/volume vfat umask=000 0 0
[05:57] <kishore> sam11, ya.. javac working. hey plz pm me
[05:57] <elkbuntu> defcon8, if nobody has replied, probably nobody here at the moment knows
[05:57] <reza> help plz ! i have upgraded to edgy and X can not run and when i type X-configure lots of errors appears :(
[05:58] <elkbuntu> reza, try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:58] <floyd2> is there any way to make a deb from a tar.gz source to make installation easier?
[05:58] <boink> sure there is, making a .deb
[05:58] <reza> elkbuntu : i tried that alot with many different configurations but no success! :|
[05:58] <boink> man dpkg
[05:59] <elkbuntu> reza also, edgy discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[05:59] <kishore> sam11, ya javac working
[06:00] <mister_roboto> floyd2: usually the contents of a tar.gz consist of a configure script and makefile with source code, not a binary install package
[06:00] <floyd2> mister_roboto, yes that is the kind of tar.gz I mean
[06:00] <mister_roboto> floyd2: usually, just "tar xzf <file> && cd <dir> && configure && make && sudo make install"
[06:01] <earthian> hey, does Ign sign (which i think is smth to do with a word 'ignore') mean bad in apt-get update ????? and if not what does that mean???
[06:01] <floyd2> mister_roboto, yeah. That almost never works. make is always missing something.
[06:01] <defcon8> I get the following error when trying to set the key to open for my wireless device Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :
[06:01] <defcon8>     SET failed on device ra0 ; Invalid argument.
[06:01] <defcon8> can someone please tell me what to do
[06:02] <mister_roboto> floyd2: that's why is a lot easier to just install from the repositories if you can find it there :)   tracking down dependencies and installing those separately can break your distribution, potentially, if you don't know what the commands do
[06:02] <Ropechoborra> I cant modify the access permission in my fat32... I got rw,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 in the fstab but.. still cant
[06:03] <TomaszD> hello, I'd like to know how to change the default iconset in openoffice in edgy. I've installed the "default" style but I'm unable to find the option to change to this iconset.
[06:03] <fredrik> help! how do i install downloaded files from the internet, feks latest version of firefox
[06:03] <floyd2> mister_roboto, why doesn't Ubuntu keep their packages up to date? software for dapper is like a year old
[06:03] <mister_roboto> floyd2: well... the next version (Edgy, 6.10) is just about to be released and it has a lot of new stuff
[06:04] <mister_roboto> floyd2: you can upgrade to that
[06:04] <fredrik> i am using  latest ubuntu version
[06:04] <swilliamson> anyone know a way to make an application start on a specified workspace?
[06:04] <bagster> hello - i've got my usb mouse to sort of work - however it's motion is extremely jerky- a probmlem i dont have with the ps/2 or serial mouse. any idea why the mouse is so unresponsive?
[06:04] <floyd2> mister_roboto, all software I install has bugs fixed in some version like 2 upgrades later but you can't upgrade because Ubuntu doesn't update their packages
[06:04] <dyn-afk> they do update their packages
[06:04] <dyn-afk> they don't upgrade the packages to newer versions most of the time
[06:05] <fredrik> can anyone help me please i am new to linux
[06:05] <dyn-afk> because 6.06 is a LTS release
[06:05] <dyn-afk> stability is key
[06:05] <floyd2> dyn-afk, example: quodlibet is at 0.18 and latest is 0.23
[06:05] <boink> sure, just ask
[06:05] <dyn-afk> I know
[06:05] <defcon8> is anyone going to help me at all?
[06:05] <mister_roboto> floyd2: are you running dapper? you can do a couple of things, first if you're on dapper, enable the backports repository. or you can just upgrade your whole distro to edgy
[06:05] <dyn-afk> but that's because they want stability and security
[06:05] <floyd2> updating a media player is not going to affect system stability
[06:05] <mram> fredrik, what would like help in?
[06:05] <boink> defcon8: I would if I know the answer
[06:05] <dyn-afk> they'll still update everything so it doesn't have security holes and suchs
[06:05] <dyn-afk> -s
[06:06] <DonDieg1> hello
[06:06] <dyn-afk> but that doesn't mean they upgrade everything to the latest versionnumber
[06:06] <_marko> Just got Edgy Eft installed. Grub is not starting (not booting to linux). I remember there were some way to repair MBR? No other operation system on that computer.
[06:06] <dyn-afk> for example OpenOffice.org: version 2.0.2 is in 6.06
[06:06] <floyd2> Having to wait for an OS upgrade to upgrade a simple program is kind of rediculous. Other nameless OS don't suffer from this
[06:06] <fredrik> ok, how do i install downloaded files from internet f.eks firefox etc, using latest version of ubuntu
[06:06] <dyn-afk> there are however some security holes
[06:06] <dyn-afk> they updated 2.0.2 with those security patches
[06:07] <mram> fredrik, you can use add and remove or synaptic package manager
[06:07] <dyn-afk> it still is 2.0.2 but it has the security patches from 2.0.3
[06:07] <Gabby_Hayes> floyd2  .. I have trouble with a lousy connection (ISP)  so got a book by  O'Reilly:  "Ibuntu Hacks"  by Oxer, Rankin & Childers  (which pointed me to this channel)
[06:07] <dyn-afk> they didn'tupgrade 2.0.2 to 2.0.3
[06:07] <d00by> can someone remind me how to edit my sources list please
[06:07] <mram> fredrik, i would suggest add and remove programs for you just to start off easier
 Having to wait for an OS upgrade to upgrade a simple program is kind of rediculous. Other nameless OS don't suffer from this << that's because they are not LTS
[06:07] <boink> !easy-source
[06:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easy-source - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:07] <boink> !easysource
[06:07] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:07] <fredrik> so when i down load stuff it will automatically end up in synaptic package manager
[06:08] <dyn-afk> SUSE, Red Hat, etc. have the exact same "problem"
[06:08] <mram> fredrik, also firefox comes installed by default
[06:08] <dyn-afk> they're stable and secure but not very up to date
[06:08] <fredrik> even the latest version
[06:08] <floyd2> dyn-afk, Windows and MacOS don't have LTS?
[06:08] <ompaul> !timetable
[06:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[06:08] <dyn-afk> that's what edgy eft is for in case of ubuntu: bleeding edge stuff
[06:08] <dyn-afk> floyd2 yep
[06:08] <Gabby_Hayes> d00by  .. am doing that myself:  /etc/apt/sources.list   (use  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list )
[06:08] <fredrik> trying to download google notebook
[06:08] <Ropechoborra> is it safe to resize an ext3 ??
[06:09] <mram> fredrik, no you don't have to download anything, you can just search for it in the add and remove and click on the check box and hit apply button and it is installed for you
[06:09] <mister_roboto> floyd2: well... if you don't want edgy and you need a new version now, you can always just install from source. you say "it never works" but that's not entirely true and you might need to learn a few things, but hatt's always an option
[06:09] <dyn-afk> windows & macos support is done through 3rd party
[06:09] <ompaul> Ropechoborra, not without backing up your data it should be possible I have never done it
[06:09] <crimsun> floyd2: please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BackportsHowto
[06:09] <Tabias> can somebody explain the main differences between gnome and kde?
[06:09] <boink> !gnome
[06:09] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[06:09] <boink> !kde
[06:09] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[06:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Sureshot..  You around?
[06:10] <boink> both are large windowmanagers
[06:10] <fredrik> asorry ra for being a novis on thia and that my q is a bit premature, glad you can help
[06:10] <Hoxzer> how can I prevent bubble notices from showing in gnome?
[06:10] <dyn-afk> Tabias the main difference is that KDE uses QT and GNOME uses GTK
[06:10] <dyn-afk> KDE wants to give the user the ability to change everything
[06:11] <mram> fredrik, no problem
[06:11] <Tabias> and what would you advice to a novice then?
[06:11] <dyn-afk> GNOME wants a clean,simple and easy to use graphical environment
[06:11] <boink> kde is somewhat more windows-like, while gnome is somewhat more mac-like
[06:11] <dyn-afk> Tabias both :)
[06:11] <PingunZ> !grubrestore > PingunZ
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grubrestore - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <dyn-afk> some like KDE more then GNOME
[06:11] <matgates> I have a USB hard disk with three partitions.  When I plug it in, it auto-mounts them, but apparently with random ordering.  sometimes sda2 will be /media/usbdisk-1 and sometimes /media/usbdisk-3...  is there a way to specify which order to automount these things?
[06:11] <jrib> ubotu: tell PingunZ about grub
[06:11] <ompaul> Tabias, they have a different look and feel, gnome tends towards less configuration, kde tends to let you tweek any one part you want to - they have different bus technologies below the bonnet, and they are constucted using different lanuagages, and I use GNOME wich is Ubuntu
[06:11] <dyn-afk> some think GNOME is better then KDE
[06:11] <Tabias> great, then I'll try them both and decide myself :)
[06:11] <RobMau> It really depends on how you like to do things, Tabias
[06:11] <PingunZ> !restoregrub > PingunZ
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restoregrub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <dyn-afk> it's very personal and up to you to decide
[06:11] <boink> in linux you have a choice, which you don't have with windows
[06:11] <RobMau> !restoregrub > RobMau
[06:12] <ompaul> Tabias, I want a simple interface to my programs and I have 12 years of this stuff under my belt
[06:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restoregrub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:12] <highvoltage> Xfce is great too
[06:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Tabias: It isnt a one or the other situation,  I have three different WM's available KDE/Gnome and ICE
[06:12] <floyd2> crimsun, so I should file a bug for all the apps I want backported?
[06:12] <RobMau> !restoregrub
[06:12] <fredrik> ra sorry for asking again, but were do i find the add or remove, is it in synaptic
[06:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restoregrub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub > RobMau
[06:12] <Renan_s2> I installed kubuntu-desktop, and now I have kdm as login manager, but I prefer GDM, how would I switch it back to GDM?
[06:12] <Tabias> yeah, I currently on ubuntu and I'm into my second day, just figuring out what I should use best. BUt gnome (current windowmanager) is nice. But I would like to try the kde too :)
[06:12] <RobMau> thanks :-)
[06:13] <Tabias> problem is, I don't know how to switch between them
[06:13] <crimsun> floyd2: well, yes, but realise that we aren't going to randomly backport any request. Well at least I certainly am not going to sign off in such a manner.
[06:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Tabias: There is an option where you enter your login
[06:13] <jazzrocker> i highly recommend any and all of you go to Circuit City and look in the RAM case... they just had a sale but they forgot to change the tags, so i got $30 off cuz of their mistake :)
[06:13] <jazzrocker> $30 off per gig, so $60 off of two gigs
[06:13] <kishore> reza, edgy stable version not yet released
[06:13] <floyd2> crimsun, will you sign off on backporting an app with no external depencies which can't break anything?
[06:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Renan_s2: there is an option where you enter your login .. as long as you didnt remove gdm
[06:14] <jazzrocker> but obviously that depends on whether the tech's are on top of their shit with changing tags, which a lot of them are not
[06:14] <Tabias> so I can actually install kde on the current ubuntu and then choose between gnome and kde ?
[06:14] <Renan_s2> will see
[06:14] <Renan_s2> Tabias, yes
[06:14] <mram> fredrik, add and remove programs is listed under Applications, and Synaptic is listed under System -> Administration
[06:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Tabias: yes
[06:14] <Renan_s2> I have KDE, GNOME and WindowMaker here :)
[06:14] <Tabias> freaky
[06:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Cool
[06:14] <crimsun> floyd2: if you're going to ask for quodlibet 0.23.1, I'm not going to ok it until I get an UVFe for mutagen 0.8 so it can enter Edgy.
[06:14] <peace-keeper> why can noone in the world make an operating system that simply WORKS without problems
[06:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Tabias: You can also run KDE apps in Gnome like K3B and Konversation etc..
[06:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Tabias: and the other way around
[06:15] <dyn-afk> peace-keeper that would be because computers are a very complex thing
[06:15] <crimsun> peace-keeper: because everyone has his/her own preferences.
[06:15] <dyn-afk> both hardware and software
[06:15] <peace-keeper> :D
[06:15] <Jack_Sparrow> peace-keeper: You cant make EVERYONE happy
[06:15] <dyn-afk> if you want something that just works an Apple mac comes closest
[06:15] <nickspoon> ?
[06:15] <Tabias> noticed that :)
[06:16] <nickspoon> whoops, wrong window.
[06:16] <samuel> anyone know network manager? any clue why network manager never seems to find a gateway?
[06:17] <Jack_Sparrow> HAs Sureshot been here this morning, he was going to beta test my Sudoku for Windows XP...(I'll go hide in shame now..)
[06:17] <TomaszD> so nobody knows how to change the iconset in openoffice?
[06:17] <ghostshadow189> hi all , i've a prob with icewm , i installed it , but when boot i choose icewm in session , but when icewm didnt work
[06:18] <Subhuman> samuel, what wifi card do you havE?
[06:18] <floyd2> crimsun, no idea what an UVFe is but I'm just frustrated with the state of software in the repositories. None of it is up to date and it's almost impossible to upgrade some things. You pretty much have to be an expert hacker to upgrade stuff. madwifi drivers and network manager for example.
[06:18] <Alakazam> lool @ expert hacker to upgrade stuff
[06:18] <ProN00b> floyd2, use ubuntu+1
[06:18] <TomaszD> floyd2, you don't understand the nature of software
[06:18] <Jack_Sparrow> ghostshadow189:  I use ICEwm here on a base of Ubuntu.. it can/does work
[06:18] <kishore> samll
[06:18] <floyd2> ProN00b, using unstable core OS doesn't seem like the easier route
[06:19] <crimsun> !schedule > floyd2
[06:19] <ProN00b> floyd2, well patching it yourself doesn't make it all that stable... and i heard some people say +1 is pretty stable
[06:19] <ghostshadow189> Jack_Sparrow : when my icewm boot , it didnt display anything
[06:19] <Tabias> it is a huge world for linux. almost to big for someone coming from windows
[06:20] <Tabias> and there is no direct routmap
[06:20] <ghostshadow189> i mean that it booted but didnt display toolbar , menu , etc
[06:20] <Jack_Sparrow> ghostshadow189: Reinstall it.. DId you see any errors along the eay?
[06:20] <mister_roboto> floyd2: i'm using edgy on my laptop and on a vmware vm on windows with no issues, fyi
[06:20] <ghostshadow189> no erro
[06:20] <samuel> Subhuman, what does that have to do with it? im trying to connect with wired eth0, but i do have an atheros
[06:20] <zool2005> hi all, is there a way to find out what process is occupying my usb drive? when i try to umount i get a busy message
[06:20] <Acidic32> Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) mod_mono/1.1.10 mod_python/3.1.4 Python/2.4.3 PHP/5.1.2 mod_ruby/1.2.5 Ruby/1.8.4(2005-12-24) Server at huggy.mrmoss.net Port 80 <-- fair bit :)
[06:20] <crimsun> floyd2: note in the release schedule that we have certain "freezes" to stabilise the software. Universe is in freeze, meaning that I need to file an upstream version freeze exception to get mutagen 0.8 into Edgy/universe so that it can be backported to dapper. It makes no sense to have older mutagen w/ newer quodlibet.
[06:20] <_marko> !grub
[06:20] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:20] <dfasdf> hi all
[06:20] <dfasdf> german?
[06:21] <ghostshadow189> Jack_Sparrow : i even open task manager with ctrl+alt+Esc
[06:21] <ghostshadow189> but icewm didnt display anyghing
[06:21] <ProN00b> crimsun, for almost standalone software thats compilable with current libs that kinda sucks
[06:21] <Subhuman> samuel, well why would you use network manager for a wired connection?
[06:21] <Jack_Sparrow> ghostshadow189: I need to leave for a bit...  I will see what notes I made when I installed ice
[06:22] <ghostshadow189> ok
[06:22] <Subhuman> you cna jus e3nter the details in if dhcp isnt enabled.
[06:22] <crimsun> ProN00b: for quodlibet in particular, we would have to backport mutagen 1.7.1 /and/ quodlibet 0.23.1
[06:22] <mram> !java
[06:22] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[06:22] <floyd2> crimsun, I realize there are logistical issues. It would be nice if the repos could be split between core and non-core packages like this SMART package management system I was reading about
[06:22] <TomaszD> is not saving the gateway address in edgy a known problem? i had to tinker with /etc/network/interfaces, which was easy for me, but, you know...
[06:22] <samuel> Subhuman, for when i want to use a wireless... but i dont want to switch back and forth between networkmanager/traditional whenever im going to use a wireless
[06:23] <VarCon> anyone able to get biometrics working on HP laptop?
[06:23] <elias_> how to set a pwd for a SMB shared folder in dapper?
[06:23] <Alakazam> yall ask some of the most wild questions.
[06:23] <tyler> hello, can some one help me uninstall ubuntu as well as grub on a dell?
[06:23] <ProN00b> VarCon, lol
[06:24] <Gabby_Hayes> am trying to get java on ubuntu:  (sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk) ... have both the 'universe' and 'multiverse' repositories in the sources.list (but returns: "couldn't find package...")
[06:24] <tyler> i have the dell provided xp disk, but i can't seem to get to recovery mode
[06:24] <tyler> i know i need to fixmbr
[06:24] <Alakazam> tyler, there's no "un-installing" ubuntu
[06:24] <Alakazam> tyler...
[06:24] <Alakazam> yeah
[06:24] <Alakazam> fixboot fixmbr
[06:24] <_marko> I assume making a boot partition to existing system is not possible without reinstall... right?
[06:24] <crimsun> Gabby_Hayes: you probably uncommented dapper-backports instead of dapper
[06:24] <VarCon> i know.. kind of an off-the-wall question.... but anyone get it working?
[06:24] <d00by2> hey when i do make it says: /bin/sh: line 0: cd: /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/build: No such file or directory
[06:24] <d00by2> what does that mean
[06:24] <tyler> alakazam how can i do that
[06:25] <Gabby_Hayes> ahh .. so just re-comment the backports ?
[06:25] <crimsun> d00by2: it means you don't have the linux-headers-$(uname -r) package installed
[06:25] <d00by2> crimsun, so i do apt-get install linux-headers
[06:25] <Alakazam> d00by, get Package: build-essential
[06:25] <d00by2> ?
[06:25] <d00by2> kk
[06:25] <Alakazam> tyler
[06:25] <Alakazam> drop to a recovery console on your win xp CD
[06:25] <floyd2> what's the file to edit for repositories? Synaptic crashes when I run it
[06:26] <Haprog> I'm using Ubuntu Dapper 6.06.1 AMD64 and just installed Xgl+Compiz and got it working with this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133427 At first everything worked fine. Win-key worked as the "Super"-key but..
[06:26] <tyler> alakazam i cant do that with the dell xp cd they provided me
[06:26] <TomaszD> floyd2, /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:26] <VarCon> or is there even a package that will allow Biometrics?\
[06:26] <crimsun> Gabby_Hayes: you need to ensure you have the /dapper/ lines for universe and multiverse enabled
[06:26] <Haprog> after a few boots Win key didn't work anymore
[06:26] <crimsun> floyd2: /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:26] <d00by2> floyd2, /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:26] <d00by2> lol
[06:26] <Alakazam> tyler, if its a windows disk you should be able to.
[06:26] <floyd2> thanks :-)
[06:26] <Alakazam> floyd2, use apt-get
[06:26] <TomaszD> tyler, does the xp cd boot at all?
[06:26] <tyler> alakazam, how can i access it from grub? it won't boot automatically
[06:26] <Haprog> and now when I go to System/Preferences/keyboard there are no keyboard models and layouts selectable
[06:26] <Haprog> they're all gone
[06:27] <Alakazam> tyler, set your BIOS to boot from CD.
[06:27] <Alakazam> make sure its an XP cd.
[06:27] <d00by2> when i try to do apt-get install linux-headers, i get a huge list, which one should i choose?
[06:27] <Alakazam> not powertoys or some crap
[06:27] <Jack_Sparrow> tyler: Bootdisk.com
[06:27] <tyler> alakazam its a dell branded xp installation disk
[06:27] <Alakazam> d00by, the one that matches your kernel.
[06:27] <Alakazam> tyler, it should STILL boot.
[06:27] <tyler> ok
[06:27] <d00by2> alakazam, how do i find my kernal version?
[06:27] <jbmigel> dooby2 "uname -a"
[06:27] <Alakazam> d00by, uname -a
[06:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Alakazam: the Dell install disks are a little freaky
[06:28] <TomaszD> Alakazam, no, it might not. I know this problem occurs very often. GRUB installed, xp cd doesn't boot.
[06:28] <mister_roboto> apt-cache search linux-headers-`uname -r`
[06:28] <Alakazam> hmm...
[06:28] <Haprog> Does someone know how to get the keyboard layouts and models to show up on the gnome Keyboard setting utility again? though the settings set in xorg.conf work fine except for the Win-key
[06:28] <Alakazam> TomaszD, grub has nothing to do w/a bios boot.
[06:28] <d00by2> nvm figured it out
[06:28] <d00by2> i think
[06:28] <TomaszD> Alakazam, well experience shows otherwise.
[06:29] <Alakazam> TomaszD, okay... thats mathmaticaly impossible... but okay
[06:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Alakazam: the cd should still boot.. but it isnt the normal XP install/recovery
[06:29] <Alakazam> shit if i know man...
[06:29] <Alakazam> heh
[06:29] <TomaszD> Alakazam, I work in a small computer company as a technician. We sometimes have notebooks preloaded with fedora, we have to use a specially provided boot disc to erase the harddrive, because xp cds don't boot at all.
[06:29] <Alakazam> weird TomaszD
[06:29] <Alakazam> i stand corrected i guess.
[06:30] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[06:30] <VarCon> so..... back to the question..... anyone able to get Biometrics working with Linux?
[06:30] <TomaszD> Alakazam, very weird, I couldn't believe it myself, it was just a black screen when I tried.
[06:30] <Alakazam> i guess with proprietary software..
[06:30] <Alakazam> yeah
[06:30] <crimsun> VarCon: there are a couple howtos for the hardware in Thinkpads.
[06:30] <floyd2> Is there a way to see in the "updates" applet window which repository an upgrade is coming from?
[06:30] <Alakazam> my xp install just took a crap and my girls mad.
[06:30] <Alakazam> heh
[06:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Alakazam: I have had to use a bootdisk.com floppy then get to the i386 folder on the cd to do an install using the Dell CD
[06:32] <mister_roboto> floyd2: you can see that with "apt-cache policy <pkg name>"
[06:32] <mister_roboto> floyd2: not sure about in synaptic
[06:32] <ignotus> where can I see the list of the software that is on the dapper drake DVD?
[06:33] <floyd2> mister_roboto, yeah I was wondering in the update manager. It would be nice to see if a particular update is "safe" (from a supported repo) before installing it.
[06:33] <gyhu> hi. where will i find "tree" in which is presented what distro is based on what distro?
[06:34] <d00by> when i type in "wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta" to install madwifi it says "wlanconfig: ioctl: Input/output error"
[06:34] <d00by> ?
[06:34] <Jack_Sparrow> floyd2: If it is in the original repor then it is safe, which is why not everything bleeding edge is in there as you were complaining about earlier
[06:34] <GnarusLeo> Have anyone got ubuntu to work with Prism drivers (Network Adapter) ?? How do I do this?
[06:34] <floyd2> Jack_Sparrow, yeah but I have the backports repos and some non ubuntu repos also
[06:35] <d00by> GnarusLeo what card are you using
[06:35] <Crippy-Boy> Hmm, if the wireless card uses the Prism chipset it should work out of the box, atleast mine did
[06:35] <GnarusLeo> d00by, 0000:01:01.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation ISL3886 [Prism Javelin/Prism Xbow]  (rev 01)
[06:35] <Jack_Sparrow> floyd2: those would not be considered supported repos would they
[06:35] <ivx> hey i'm running ubuntu on my notebook and it say for the battery/power icon: laptop battery is fully charged (93%). what does that 93% mean
[06:35] <d00by> when i type in "wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta" to install madwifi it says "wlanconfig: ioctl: Input/output error" anybody know what that means?
[06:35] <floyd2> Jack_Sparrow, thus my question about how to tell where a package is coming from in the update manager :-)
[06:37] <Jack_Sparrow> floyd2: You could tell by switching off the added repos  and reloading but that is a long way around.
[06:37] <Crippy-Boy> ivx, That the battery is 93% charged?
[06:37] <Renan_s2> What is the best way to disable services that I don't need, e.g. Bluetooth?
[06:37] <michael> My Via Rhine II definitely doesn't work, Firestarter claims it isn't ready.
[06:37] <floyd2> Jack_Sparrow, I think I'll try to file a bug for this if I can find the right place since I can't be the only one to wonder this
[06:38] <ignotus> is ScummVM available on the official drapper drake DVD?
[06:38] <RobMau> I have to go, Bye! :-)
[06:38] <Subhuman> ignotus, if its in the repos, yes.
[06:38] <ivx> crippy-boy it says fully charged than 93%. i am wondering if it is tell me that some of the battery is bad
[06:38] <Jack_Sparrow> floyd2: Feel free to file a bug, but it is more of a feature you think should be added.
[06:38] <Gabby_Hayes> cya  RobMau
[06:38] <ignotus> Subhuman: it is, thanks!
[06:39] <edytt> If i want to add a module to my kernel, or just want it to autoload on startup, do i need to recompile kernel with it, or can i just change that somewhere, or can i just have it modprobe'd at start up?
[06:39] <sureshot> how do i turn off the gnome sounds so i can let other program use the sound card
[06:39] <Crippy-Boy> ivx, i wouldn't worry about it, After quite a few uses batteries rarely hold 100% charge
[06:39] <floyd2> Jack_Sparrow, semantics. bugzilla labels *everything* a bug.
[06:39] <earthian> Hello again. I am trying to upgrade my ATI drivers from the default ubuntu version to the new one from ati.com site. Can you help me backup my current driver/configuration so if anything goes wrong with the new driver i would be able to revert the old working driver later? I am doing this because some xgl extensions are not working. HELP ?
[06:39] <edytt> any ideas?
[06:39] <frogzoo_> sureshot: dapper ?
[06:39] <sureshot> frogzoo yes ser
[06:40] <frogzoo_> sureshot: system -> prefs -> sound -> enable s/w esd mixing     & logout/back in
[06:40] <zool2005> can i use rsync to copy a web directory to my system?
[06:40] <Stork> what's a good socks proxy server i can install?
[06:40] <sureshot> thanks frogzoo that will help me still a noob in lots a ways
[06:40] <Jack_Sparrow> sureshot: Stop using that TImex SInclair and get a real PC...     You ready to Beta test my new game..?
[06:40] <captine> is it possible to do an upgrade from 5.10 32 bit to 6.06 64bit??
[06:40] <earthian> captine, no
[06:40] <earthian> 32bit -> 32bit OR 64bit -> 64bit.
[06:40] <captine> earthian, thnx
[06:40] <earthian> np
[06:40] <captine> too lazy to re-install
[06:41] <edytt> If i want to add a module to my kernel, or just want it to autoload on startup, do i need to recompile kernel with it, or can i just change that somewhere, or can i just have it modprobe'd at start up?
[06:41] <ivx> crippy-boy i guess but it was a big purchase so try to keep it new
[06:41] <frogzoo_> zool2005: wget
[06:41] <elias_> I can't access my SMB SHARED directories. Looks like samba does not know about my user!
[06:41] <edytt> Any ideas/suggestions?
[06:41] <edytt> i want ath_pci to be loaded automatic
[06:41] <sureshot> send it to me and i have upgraded to a ti99 heheh
[06:41] <edytt> instead of having to type sudo modprobe ath_pci whenever i need to use my wlan
[06:41] <frogzoo_> captine: that's seriously lazy
[06:41] <earthian> !smbpassw
[06:41] <b03nto> Renan_s2: update-rc.d -f <thing u dont need> remove
[06:41] <earthian> !smbpasswd
[06:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smbpassw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <earthian> !spasswd
[06:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smbpasswd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spasswd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <frogzoo_> edytt: add it to /etc/modules
[06:42] <Crippy-Boy> ivx, I know what you mean, My battery on my thinkpad recently died (after a few years albeit), But it should be fine, it will last. But they dont hold charge for ever.
[06:42] <jrib> !fishing
[06:42] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[06:42] <earthian> ups
[06:42] <elias_> earthian: that's what I am thinking. but how can ubuntu expect the normal user to know about smbpasswd.
[06:43] <sureshot> jack_sparrow i stopped using that pc a long time ago i use a ti99 at the moment and i cant wait till my commador to come in hehehehe
[06:43] <Evaso2> there is a wat to reinstall sysv-rc with apt-get?
[06:43] <earthian> well... you can ask here :o
[06:43] <Crippy-Boy> ivx, If your worried about it, cycle it a few times, Let it fully charge then run it down, Repeat the process a few times.
[06:43] <sureshot> jack_sparrow can youd dcc that to me
[06:43] <dyn-afk> elias_ setting up samba is not something a normal user would do anyway :P
[06:43] <Jack_Sparrow> sureshot: one sec
[06:44] <GnarusLeo> d00by, 0000:01:01.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation ISL3886 [Prism Javelin/Prism Xbow]  (rev 01)
[06:44] <elias_> dyn-afk: but sharing folders is certainly something a normal user could want!
[06:44] <Gabby_Hayes> dyn-afk  .. are linux users  "normal" ?  :-)
[06:44] <GnarusLeo> Have anyone got ubuntu to work with Prism drivers (Network Adapter) ?? How do I do this?
[06:44] <ivx> crippy-boy thanks the life kinda stinks so i might buy an 8 cell or whatever anyhow
[06:44] <earthian> dyn-afk, but setting samba shold not be that hard either.... its bad for ubuntu and good for windows where you just check a checkbox and your folder gets shared over the network
[06:44] <Jack_Sparrow> sureshot: You will need VB6 runtimes
[06:45] <dyn-afk> Gabby_Hayes nah, linux users are nuts :P
[06:45] <ghostshadow189> Jack_Sparrow : my icewm still didnt work
[06:45] <edytt> So?
[06:45] <Alakazam> http://ebcd.pcministry.com/
[06:45] <elias_> it is not about the linux case (how things have to be done in linux) but about the user case (what users want to do). the user should not have to care about whether samba is doing the job for him in the background or something else. he just cares if it works or not.
[06:45] <dyn-afk> elias_ not everyone wants to share stuff,most simply want to share the internet connection among the computers they have
[06:45] <Gabby_Hayes> earthian  .. or put your shared file on a floppy, and use sneaker-net  <BG>
[06:45] <falco> hey all
[06:46] <dyn-afk> earthian I don't think smbpasswd -a username is all that difficult to do
[06:46] <Jack_Sparrow> ghostshadow189: Is yours a clean system, never used #Automatix garbage or unusual repos?
[06:46] <sureshot> jack_sparrow it failed try again i have vb6 interprize loaded
[06:46] <falco> hey guys?
[06:46] <dyn-afk> yes, it's not graphical but that doesn't mean it's hard
[06:46] <falco> I am trying to get TC-Elite
[06:46] <elias_> Gabby_Hayes: there are more and more normal linux users out there nowadays, thanks to ubuntu.
[06:46] <dyn-afk> there is however SWAT
[06:46] <falco> how do you remove a dir?
[06:46] <elias_> but ubuntu still has some miles to go!
[06:46] <dyn-afk> so it can be done via somesort of a GUI
[06:47] <ghostshadow189> jack_sparrow : what do u mean ? i installed automatix
[06:47] <falco> how do you remove a directory?
[06:47] <sureshot> jack_sparrow it failed try again i have vb6 interprize loaded  stupid me firestarted hang on
[06:47] <Jack_Sparrow> elias_: Watch who you are calling normal eh   :)
[06:47] <dyn-afk> falco: rm -R dirname
[06:47] <earthian> Hello again. I am trying to upgrade my ATI drivers from the default ubuntu version to the new one from ati.com site. Can you help me backup my current driver/configuration so if anything goes wrong with the new driver i would be able to revert the old working driver later? I am doing this because some xgl extensions are not working. HELP ?
[06:47] <ghostshadow189> do u mean i used automatix to install icewm ?
[06:47] <falco> syn-afk thanks
[06:47] <Gabby_Hayes> elias,  and whe M$ starts to lease  (not sell) it's bloated OSs,  Linux will become more popular.
[06:47] <elias_> dyn-afk: don't care about swat! why should a user have to know about samba config settings?
[06:47] <ghostshadow189> no , i used synaptic
[06:47] <Crippy-Boy> They already do lease it.
[06:47] <Alakazam> lol elias_
[06:47] <Jack_Sparrow> ghostshadow189: Automatix is the WORST things you can run..
[06:47] <sureshot> jack_sparrow one more time other than that email it to me
[06:47] <dyn-afk> for the same reason a driver has to know how to drive a car elias_ ;)
[06:48] <falco> YAY it worked
[06:48] <Alakazam> Jack_Sparrow, whys that.
[06:48] <frogzoo_> !ati > earthian
[06:48] <Alakazam> ive never had any problems w/it.
[06:48] <falco> dyn-afk thanks bud
[06:48] <dyn-afk> computers aren't easy and shouldn't be easy because that makes us lazy as hell
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !worksforme
[06:48] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[06:48] <ghostshadow189> jack_sparrow : so wat must i do now ?
[06:48] <sureshot> jack_sparrow one more time other than that email it to me
[06:48] <ghostshadow189> i ddint use automatix to install icewm
[06:49] <dyn-afk> elias_ setting up a server is what you do with samba and for that you need knowledge
[06:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Alakazam: Garbage script written by kiddies that wont support their own work.  It trashes a lot of computers and we see them in here every day of the week
[06:49] <Gabby_Hayes> anyone who works on the "bleeding edge" of anything, had better a have a blood donor's card handy.
[06:49] <sethk> earthian, back up your /etc directory and your /usr/X11R6 directory
[06:49] <Alakazam> aah Jack
[06:49] <Crippy-Boy> Automatix isnt TOO bad apart from it uses its own repo's and doesnt fail gracefully, But i fail to see the point of spoon feeding people on such a trivial task as installing software
[06:49] <dyn-afk> that is a good thing because if it is not difficult to setup something like a webserver it would make the web an awful lot unsafer
[06:49] <earthian> ok thanks sethk
[06:49] <Alakazam> well... trash scripts... yes. support their own work... dont need them to. i can support it ;)
[06:49] <ugarit> I need some help to figure out how to control brightness on a Sony VAIO laptop.  Anyone here has experience with this?
[06:50] <ghostshadow189> jack_sparrow , wat must i do now ?
[06:50] <floyd2> ./configure reports "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" what to do?
[06:50] <sethk> floyd2, install package build-essential
[06:50] <Jack_Sparrow> sureshot: Gimme your email in private so I can try and get the game to you
[06:50] <Jack_Sparrow> ghostshadow189: No idea...  SOmeone else may have an answer
[06:51] <ghostshadow189> so wat do u mean with automatix ?
[06:51] <YouCeyE> how to find ip address under nat?
[06:51] <Alakazam> here's one for you...
[06:51] <YouCeyE> i mean the real ip
[06:51] <sureshot> it it prk62@yahoo.com i dont care
[06:51] <sethk> YouCeyE, there are web sites that tell you.   try whatsmyipaddress.com
[06:51] <Alakazam> when i pas hdb=ide-scsi in grub... i cant even see my burner.
[06:51] <dyn-afk> try the site www.whatismyip.com YouCeyE
[06:51] <YouCeyE> sethk, gui is not working
[06:51] <Alakazam> when i try and burn without passing that to grub... it always fails a burn
[06:51] <b03nto> YouCeyE: or this http://www.watismijnip.nl/
[06:51] <sethk> YouCeyE, use a text mode browser
[06:52] <cvacubo> Hello everybody. I have a little question about upload new package to Ubuntu repositories. Please help me.
[06:52] <dyn-afk> those 3 are all the same b03nto :P
[06:52] <dyn-afk> textmode browsers: lynx, links, elinks
[06:52] <brenlae> man i love ubuntu ^_^
[06:52] <b03nto> is it ? ..ooo shame on me.. :(
[06:53] <ghostshadow189> jack_sparrow : must i install rox ?
[06:53] <Jack_Sparrow> ghostshadow189: No idea... Once you run automatix and it does what it does, you can often have problems later .... Not easy to fix...  Most people need to reinstall to flush it out
[06:53] <dyn-afk> you can ping your own hostname (the one you get from your isp)
[06:53] <dyn-afk> that will tell you the ip-address as well YouCeyE
[06:53] <brenlae> is it ok to run an i386 kernel on 686 smp hardware? (P4 530J @3ghz w/ HT)
[06:53] <YouCeyE> dyn-afk, ping 127.0.0.1
[06:53] <ghostshadow189> jack_sparrow : so i need to reinstall icewm with synaptic ?
[06:53] <sethk> brenlae, yes
[06:53] <YouCeyE> ?
[06:53] <Jack_Sparrow> ghostshadow189: Good luck.. next time you do a fresh install.. avoid that script, just come here and ask.
[06:54] <brenlae> sethk, would i notice a speed increase with a 686-smp kernel?
[06:54] <b03nto> YouCeyE: what about this one http://www.whatsmyip.org/
[06:54] <dyn-afk> nope YouCeyE not that ip-address :P
[06:54] <sethk> brenlae, very unlikely that you would notice
[06:54] <Jack_Sparrow> ghostshadow189: No idea how to fix icewm on a dirty system...
[06:54] <Crippy-Boy> brenlae, If you use multi threaded apps, Probably
[06:54] <ghostshadow189> jack_sparrow , u think i should use synaptic or terminal to reinstall icewm ?
[06:54] <brenlae> sethk, cool, thanks, i was worried :)
[06:54] <sethk> ghostghost, either way, it doesn't matter
[06:54] <brenlae> hmm
[06:55] <mirak> hi
[06:55] <Crippy-Boy> I hate grub :-)
[06:55] <brenlae> lilo is a bit more simplified than grub, i'll give you that, Crippy-Boy
[06:55] <Crippy-Boy> Its not the fact of being simplified
[06:55] <smita> ebu
[06:56] <Crippy-Boy> Its when i try to reinstall grub to the mbr in a way ive done a thousand times before it fails
[06:56] <sethk> Crippy-Boy, how are you installing it?
[06:56] <Crippy-Boy> I had to use super grub disk to get it back then edit menu.lst to add my os's
[06:57] <Crippy-Boy> sethk: Id just reinstalled windows, Booted DSL, mounted the ubuntu drive to /mnt/ubuntu chrooted to /mnt/ubuntu then grub-install /dev/hda gave me an error 'The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly'
[06:57] <Crippy-Boy> Ive done it a thousand times without problems before
[06:58] <Crippy-Boy> but its fixed now, so its all good.
[06:58] <sethk> Crippy-Boy, I never use grub-install.  much more reliable to use the grub utility
[06:58] <Dekel> I have some problem with my network in ubuntu
[06:58] <pi> hi
[06:58] <Crippy-Boy> Aye it is a little flaky, but i got it sorted :-
[06:58] <Crippy-Boy> :-) *
[06:58] <Alakazam> How can I fix this?
[06:58] <Alakazam> root@malakai:~# mount -a
[06:58] <Alakazam> Volume is dirty.
[06:58] <sethk> Alakazam, clean the volume
[06:58] <Alakazam> Okay...
[06:59] <gandalfcome> I installed a tyv
[06:59] <Alakazam> What would that include.
[06:59] <sethk> Alakazam, meaning run fsck
[06:59] <Jack_Sparrow> sureshot: try one more time
[06:59] <Alakazam> FSCK!
[06:59] <Alakazam> damn it.
[06:59] <Alakazam> thanks
[06:59] <sethk> Alakazam, if it is ext3, then fsck.ext3
[06:59] <Crippy-Boy> Take out the hard drive, And leave it in a bucket of hot soapy water for a hour or two, Then it'll be fine
[06:59] <Crippy-Boy> XD
[06:59] <gandalfcome> a tv card in my server how do i know that linux recognized it?
[06:59] <pi> when I boot my server without monitor's cable connected the resolution shift automatilly on VGA
[06:59] <zenit> Crippy-Boy: I had the same problem, but it was an old grub with a combination of a raid device it couldn't find.
[06:59] <Dekel> I have 3 computers. 2 win, 1 lin (ubuntu). i gave my ubuntu some name, and i want to be able to connect to it from the win boxes using it's name (and not ip address). All computers connected to router. how do i config this?
[06:59] <sureshot> jack_sparrow email it to me friend at prk62@yahoo.com
[06:59] <sethk> pi, yes, that's normal.
[07:00] <pi> how can boot the system to 1280x1024
[07:00] <zool2005> I have a question : I want to copy the contents of a remote repository to my hdd (because I don't have a network connection on my laptop) Is it possible?
[07:00] <pi> I want to enter with VNC
[07:00] <Jack_Sparrow> sureshot: Later this weekend I will send it..
[07:00] <sethk> pi, connect the monitor
[07:00] <pi> eh eh
[07:00] <sethk> pi, if you can use XDMCP you will be better off
[07:00] <Crippy-Boy> zenit, I have no idea what the problem was in my case, Its an ide drive, I thought maybe the menu.lst was wrong so i generated a new one, But i just used super grub disk to fix in the end
[07:00] <Alakazam> heh its NTFS
[07:00] <sethk> pi, using vnc without a display makes no sense at all
[07:01] <zenit> Crippy-Boy: oki, interesting. That disk seems useful.
[07:01] <sureshot> jack_sparrow anytime my friend my back is given me problems today anyway laying down and trying to type is not easy
[07:01] <pi> I want to run my server without monitor
[07:01] <Crippy-Boy> zenit, Sure is, I had it on a copy of Ultimate Boot CD laying around, The amount of times that cd has saved me is unreal
[07:01] <sethk> pi, that's fine, just don't run vnc
[07:01] <sethk> pi, use XDMCP
[07:01] <sethk> pi   if you are on the same subnet, it's by far the best way to do it.
[07:01] <pi> what is XDMCP?
[07:02] <sethk> pi,  an X protocol for logging into a machine without a head
[07:02] <Alakazam> i freakin hate windows.
[07:02] <link_36p> is there a way to set up the extra keys on my laptop? (launch web browser, email, etc)
[07:02] <Alakazam> Im going to FORCE my girl to use Ubuntu.
[07:02] <Gabby_Hayes> Crippy-Boy  .. I have that disk, and a few others, plus knoppix ... sure helps getting a crashed M$  up ... and embarass the owner.
[07:02] <link_36p>  Alakazam: i already have ;)
[07:02] <Alakazam> heh
[07:03] <NutsOfSteel> hmm. my dad has been using linux since the laptop hdd died :)
[07:03] <ProN00b> graveman works for me for burning data dvd's, but if i use gnomebaker i always get errors, does anyone know where the problem might lie ?
[07:03] <Alakazam> ive been using linux as a desktop for like... 5 years.
[07:03] <Crippy-Boy> Alakazam, Forcing someone to use it isnt going to help.
[07:03] <Alakazam> she can at least TRY.
[07:03] <NutsOfSteel> knoppix even
[07:03] <pi> and if I connect to it from out of my lan?
[07:03] <Crippy-Boy> Gabby_Hayes, Aye, Its not the best disk for it but its useful, Especially when fixing familys pc's
[07:03] <Alakazam> once a week im JACKING with windows;.
[07:03] <Alakazam> UGH!
[07:03] <NutsOfSteel> and if dad who's around 60 figured it out, she should have no problem
[07:03] <Crippy-Boy> DSL + UBCD = nice combo
[07:03] <Alakazam> are there any gnu utilities for NTFS fscking?
[07:03] <sethk> pi, you can try using xdmcp that way also, but the intervening routers may not allow it
[07:04] <sethk> pi, in that case, log in with ssh -X
[07:04] <rlared> hey all, has anyone gotten the junk mail filtering in evolution to work correctly?
[07:04] <link_36p> anyone now how i can setup the extra keys on my laptop? :(
[07:04] <sethk> pi, then apps will display on the machine where you log in from
[07:04] <pi> I would like a remote desktop like vnc
[07:05] <sethk> pi, I can only tell you the better ways to do it.  If you insist on vnc, then you'll have to attach a monitor.
[07:05] <Crippy-Boy> Adding dcfldd to Damn Small is also one of the most useful things, EVAR :-)
[07:05] <roduku> hi... does anyone have time to answer some newbie questions?
[07:05] <pi> ok thanks
[07:06] <joejaxx> roduku: sure like what?
[07:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Gabby_Hayes: We should form our own club, I actually drew my own boards, drilled and etched them..
[07:06] <pi> I have understans and I will take a look to XDMCP
[07:06] <roduku> thanks... I got a copy of ubuntu live cd, but It doesn't boot
[07:07] <Gabby_Hayes> have done that quite a few times, myself,  Jack_Sparrow   (wish someone like Heathkit would still be around)
[07:07] <Alakazam> roduku, you can also find a lot of answers here http://ubuntuforums.org/
[07:07] <Alakazam> it helped me out a lot a couple years ago
[07:07] <joejaxx> roduku: did you download the iso or is it from shipit?
[07:07] <Jack_Sparrow> roduku: did you burn the cd yourself?  Did you do the self test for errors?
[07:07] <sureshot> i am sorry to have to ask this again but how do i disable gnome sounds in dapper what settings do i change
[07:07] <shuffle2> hey all i just tried out the amd64 desktop cd, and it hangs on "configuring network devices". I have a atheros-based card....it is supported out of the box?
[07:07] <ugarit> how can one find the minor node for a sonypi device?
[07:07] <roduku> downloaded the ISO, extracted it, durned to CD
[07:08] <Jack_Sparrow> sureshot: You can get sounds from more than one prog at a time..
[07:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !alsa > sureshot
[07:08] <b03nto> roduku: u told bios to boot from cd dont u...?
[07:08] <shuffle2> hey all i just tried out the amd64 desktop cd, and it hangs on "configuring network devices". I have a atheros-based card....it is supported out of the box? (reposting b/c i forgot to identify w/ NickServ)
[07:08] <roduku> b03...yep.. checked it twice...
[07:09] <sureshot> my sound default says intel ich6 i thought i had alsa working here
[07:09] <joejaxx> roduku: you might want to check the md5sum of the iso
[07:09] <Jack_Sparrow> roduku: Assuming you used windows for the download and burn, did you check the md5 of the download and what did you burn it with..  nero? , what speed did you burn it at?
[07:09] <roduku> jeojaxx how do I do that?
[07:09] <joejaxx> roduku: are you on windows?
[07:10] <THX-1138> shuffle2 - not just 64bit - anyone have the solution?
[07:10] <roduku> my comp is running XP and I used the generic XP burner to make the CD
[07:10] <joejaxx> roduku: md5summer.org
[07:10] <Crippy-Boy> joejaxx, The guy who does fluxbuntu?
[07:10] <joejaxx> roduku: you want to get that program and then calculate the md5
[07:10] <joejaxx> Crippy-Boy: yes :)
[07:10] <Jack_Sparrow> roduku: Nero also has a free md5 checker
[07:11] <Crippy-Boy> joejaxx, Nice, keep up the good work, its looking good :-)
[07:11] <sureshot> i did not think that windows default burner did iso
[07:11] <joejaxx> Crippy-Boy: thanks :)
[07:11] <b03nto> but nero is not free ...
[07:11] <SkramX> should i go hoary -> breezy -> dapper or can I just do hoary -> dapper?
[07:11] <oxygene_> maybe he burned the iso as a file on cd ;)
[07:11] <roduku> okay.. so what am I looking by checking the md5?
[07:11] <ugarit> anyone here experienced with sony vaio laptops?
[07:11] <link_36p> Does anyone know how to configure the extra keys on a laptop?
[07:11] <Jack_Sparrow> b03nto: Nero is not free but the md5 checker is free
[07:11] <Velorium> could someone help me install some .tar.gz files?
[07:11] <sureshot> oxygene what i am thinking
[07:11] <Alexander_NL> !roduku windows XP can make bootable cd's
[07:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about roduku windows XP can make bootable cd's - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:12] <Jack_Sparrow> b03nto: isorecorder is a free iso burning tool for XP
[07:12] <Alexander_NL> @roduku windows xp can't make bootable cd
[07:12] <Crippy-Boy> Or theres CDBurnerXP which is pretty damn good
[07:12] <joejaxx> roduku: looking to make sure it matches the md5 code on the ubuntu website
[07:12] <Screechingcat> Velorium, it almost never works, but just try out Kompile just in case
[07:12] <THX-1138> shuffle2 - Did you get any help?  "" troubles
[07:12] <Alexander_NL> roduku: windows xp can't make bootable cds
[07:13] <joejaxx> roduku: it has to match this: fb3af44c21f1f68cc25fda7edb8c1bd3  ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso
[07:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Alexander_NL: Sure it can...
[07:13] <link_36p> Does anyone know how to configure the extra keys on a laptop? :'(
[07:13] <roduku> Alexander... XP doesn't make bootable CDs?
[07:13] <Velorium> screechingcat: is that something i can get from synaptic package manager?
[07:13] <THX-1138> free isoburner powertoy small free developed by a microsoft employee alex fienmann
[07:13] <Screechingcat> Velorium, yes. its a graphical utility to install tar.gz packages
[07:13] <THX-1138> i hate adware
[07:13] <Velorium> alright, i'll look into it
[07:14] <Screechingcat> link_36p, you can do it thru keyboard shortcuts in prefs menu
[07:14] <Alexander_NL> no it doesnt tried many times never succesful, cant burn isos or convert cue/bin
[07:14] <roduku> well... maybe that's the problem
[07:14] <roduku> what should I use to make it bootable?
[07:14] <SkramX> damn
[07:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Alexander_NL: To be clear, several XP programs can make bootable cd's....
[07:15] <SkramX> my laptop ran out of battery in the middle of the install!!
[07:15] <shuffle2> i need madwifi support with the 64 bit ubuntu live cd..... can anyone help?
[07:15] <Alexander_NL> roduku: if you don have nero try sourceforge for a free tool
[07:15] <_marko> is the edgy eft beta iso without name -alternate- ??
[07:15] <_marko> alternate one i mean
[07:15] <mirak> when I try to schroot or chroot I got an error like can't exec bash, permission not allowed
[07:15] <Alexander_NL> yes of course several xp programs can make bootable cds but not the build in function
[07:15] <DOA62> Ok what is the default root password or how can I change it?
[07:16] <Velorium> screechingcat: it says it's for KDE, i have ubuntu not kubuntu, will it still work out ok?
[07:16] <link_36p> Screechingcat: Ive tried that, but when i hit the key i want to assign a command to nothing happens! :(
[07:16] <THX-1138> !rootsudo
[07:16] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Alexander_NL: Just wanted to clarify that point.. What you were saying impiled XP could not at all..
[07:16] <roduku> I happen to have a copy of ultra ISO... I'll check that
[07:16] <DOA62> thanks
[07:16] <shuffle2> !madwifi
[07:16] <sethk> DOA62, you can set the root password also, if necessary
[07:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:16] <mirak> THX-1138: this have nothing to do with sudo
[07:16] <joejaxx> roduku: yeah make sure you use the burn image file option
[07:17] <THX-1138> mirak - helpshuffle2 with his problem please
[07:17] <Jack_Sparrow> THX-1138: I dont remember seeing any adware after I installed isorecorder
[07:17] <Gabby_Hayes> SkramX  .. plug in your laptop on disk intensive programs,  like installs or disk indexing, etc..
[07:17] <Alexander_NL> Jack_Sparrow: youe right :)
[07:17] <Screechingcat> Velorium, go ahead
[07:17] <roduku> hey.. thanks a lot for the advice, everyone... I'm going to give another shot
[07:17] <Velorium> ok
[07:17] <raghu206> is there a software similar and much powerfull than wine
[07:17] <roduku> later
[07:18] <THX-1138> Jack_Sparrow: thats just i - it's small adware and  spyware free. - not very capable but it does one job well
[07:18] <tabm0de> any one have had the problem when its not possible to reinstall apache2 after removing the files? because it does not make any apache2 in init.d and doesnt make the files in /etc/apache2 or dir
[07:18] <Jack_Sparrow> THX-1138: Agreed...
[07:18] <frogzoo> raghu206: cedega is similiar to wine
[07:18] <Alexander_NL> roduku: why do you need burning tool?
[07:19] <DOA61> that did not work
[07:19] <Velorium> screechingcat: when i try to open the .tar.gz file with kompile it says "Could not find 'kdesu'"
[07:19] <sethk> Velorium, you extract files from a tar.gz.
[07:19] <sethk> Velorium, at the command line, use:    tar xvzf whatever.tar.gz
[07:19] <Screechingcat> Velorium, ok so it screwed at start this time. try manual compile
[07:19] <sethk> Velorium, then you cd to the created directory and do ./configure
[07:20] <{{corona}}> can someone help? I got my wifi working but am having lots of packets being dropped...and the connection just slows down frequently
[07:20] <Velorium> sethk: i tried that, i do tar xvzf /home/louis/desktop/xine-lib-1.1.1.tar.gz and it says it couldn't find the file
[07:20] <DOA61> I need to install the source code into the /usr/src/linux/include folder (which does not exists) and i do not have access to change or add anything the the scr folder
[07:20] <Jack_Sparrow> People...     Play nice....  back later...
[07:20] <shuffle2> the ubuntu cd (amd64 6.06) hangs when trying to config my atheros card......i need a live cd that is 64 bit and supports madwifi (or enables me to add it to the image) can anyone help out?
[07:21] <b03nto> DOA61: sudo and use you own password
[07:21] <THX-1138> Enabling wiwi halts boot on "configuring network devises" - workaround?
[07:21] <b03nto> DOA61: or sudo -s -H and use you own password
[07:21] <DOA61> tried that still not working
[07:21] <ompaul> b03nto, that is -i
[07:21] <ompaul> if you have to
[07:21] <sethk> Velorium, then you don't have a file named that.  Initially I can see that you misspelled Desktop
[07:21] <mirak>  chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Permission denied
[07:21] <Screechingcat> Velorium, just open the folder and extract normally. then cd to the dir in a terminal and do ./configure
[07:21] <sethk> Velorium, remember that if you get one letter wrong, you've used a different file name.
[07:21] <mirak> I don't know why I have this error
[07:22] <Screechingcat> and then sudo make and sudo make-\install
[07:22] <Alexander_NL> THX-1138: i have that same problem, in fact when i use usb stick wifi my laptop will freeze at some point
[07:22] <ompaul> DOA61, do this >> id << what username does it return?
[07:22] <{{corona}}> hmmm no one there to help?
[07:22] <Screechingcat> sorry thats sudo make-install
[07:22] <Alexander_NL> Alexander_NL: l
[07:22] <Samuli^> make install
[07:22] <Velorium> sethk: ah, i didn't know caps mattered heh, thank you
[07:22] <Alexander_NL> {{corona}}: what was your problem again?
[07:22] <Gabby_Hayes> when apt-get does an install,  why does it identify some packages as  " The following packages have been held back: .."  ? Are they needed, in some way?
[07:22] <TUx_> hey all i need some help
[07:23] <rudiz> hi
[07:23] <{{corona}}> hey Alexander_NL
[07:23] <TUx_> i am trying to read a user that is closed
[07:23] <sethk> Velorium, np.  there is something called tab completion.  that means when you type part of a filename and hit tab, the rest will be filled in for you (if unique, otherwise the unique part will be filled in a it will beep).  saves typing and saves misspellings.
[07:23] <TUx_> i am adminastrator
[07:23] <Screechingcat> Gabby_Hayes, they are packages which have upgrades but have not been upgraded for some reason
[07:23] <TUx_> how do i delete the user
[07:23] <TUx_> it's not in the admin panel
[07:23] <THX-1138> Hey ompaul - Can you help shuffle2, Alexander, me  with wifi - halts on boot "configuring network devices.
[07:23] <sethk> TUx_, you want to delete a user, use userdel
[07:23] <TUx_> i got it onto my desktop but i can't remove it
[07:23] <{{corona}}> Alex my problem is that i got my wifi working but am having loads of packets being dropped
[07:23] <Gabby_Hayes> thxs ...  Screechingcat
[07:23] <Screechingcat> TUx_, go to user accounts in the system > admin menu
[07:23] <TUx_> one se...
[07:23] <b03nto> ompaul: yeah but -i trow you to root home folder :P
[07:23] <Screechingcat> Gabby_Hayes, no prob
[07:24] <ompaul> THX-1138, usually help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[07:24] <TUx_> says it doesn't exist
[07:24] <Alexander_NL> {{corona}}, right can't help you with that I am afraid, my wifi keeps freezingup my laptop so threw it out
[07:24] <THX-1138> ompaul - Thanks heaps.
[07:24] <TUx_> it has an [x]  and a no edit thing on the folder
[07:24] <Screechingcat> hey are there any guides on how to add updates to an install cd. like turning a 6.06 into a 6.06.1 ??
[07:24] <TUx_> red x
[07:24] <{{corona}}> Alexander_NL: hmm :)
[07:24] <ompaul> b03nto, the suggested way is -i
[07:24] <ompaul> !root
[07:24] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:24] <Alexander_NL> :)
[07:25] <ompaul> b03nto, ^^^^^^^^ read that
[07:25] <b03nto> oke boss :)
[07:25] <TUx_> how would i change permissions
[07:25] <{{corona}}> Alexander_NL: can you suggest a channel where someone would know?
[07:25] <ompaul> THX-1138, it is the usual problems if the halt takes place - I have no wireless so ndiswrapper should work and that is all i would do
[07:26] <TUx_> how do i change permissions to a folder through temranal
[07:26] <Velorium> sethk: where is the created directory after extracting the .tar.gz?
[07:26] <joejaxx> TUx_: chmod
[07:26] <ompaul> TUx_, depends on what the folder is, who owns it, who you are on the machine, and would you damage the system by changing ownershipt
[07:26] <Screechingcat> Velorium, in the same dir as the tar.gz is located
[07:26] <sethk> Velorium, ordinarily a subdirectory of wherever you are when you extract
[07:26] <TUx_> no, it's an old user that i cant find... joejaxx: chmod what?
[07:26] <Merlin25> does anyone here know of a jabber client that supports filesharing and avatars ?
[07:27] <sethk> in your case you would do:   cd xine-<tab>      tab will fill in the rest of the name
[07:27] <Alexander_NL> {{corona}}: seems some guy had a similar problem, check if it helps http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=269417
[07:27] <Velorium> o
[07:27] <Screechingcat> Merlin25, dosent GAIM do everything under the sun ?
[07:27] <Velorium> *ok
[07:27] <TUx_> which one do i do?
[07:27] <shuffle2> HELLO
[07:27] <Merlin25> Screechingcat: except that... maybe in the upcoming 2.0 release
[07:27] <ompaul> TUx_, you want to make an old users materials avialable to a new user: chmod -R newuser:newuser /home/olduser
[07:28] <shuffle2> could you people actually talk about problems now?
[07:28] <ompaul> TUx_, with a sudo in front of it
[07:28] <peace-keeper> lol
[07:28] <Screechingcat> Merlin25, u still usin the old one ? upgrade to gaim 2.0 beta 3 now. it is amazing
[07:28] <peace-keeper> linux has too many problems to talk about them
[07:28] <linkd> :/
[07:28] <TUx_> whats newuser?
[07:28] <Merlin25> thanks, i ll try that
[07:28] <ompaul> TUx_, your username
[07:28] <shuffle2> no, this is specifically a poobuntu problem
[07:29] <sethk> shuffle2, I haven't seen you ask a question.  if you did, it got lost in the shuffle, so repeat it
[07:29] <Screechingcat> shuffle2, whats poobuntu ?
[07:29] <xav> peace-keeper, you don't have to talk about all of them in the same time
[07:29] <shuffle2> the ubuntu cd (amd64 6.06) hangs when trying to config my atheros card......i need a live cd that is 64 bit and supports madwifi (or enables me to add it to the image) can anyone help out?
[07:29] <peace-keeper> hey cool, new automatic updates! let's see what gets f** up this time :)
[07:29] <TUx_> brb
[07:29] <ompaul> !language
[07:29] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:30] <THX-1138> a little music ti soothe the savage nerd with a codecs fix would be welcome
[07:30] <Screechingcat> ompaul, y do u interpret F** like that. he could easily have meant fed up or somethin like that ?
[07:30] <shuffle2> sethk: did you see my question this time?
[07:30] <RetLaw> Hi folks, I would appreciate some help ! I did a fresh install of ubuntu-server 6.06 on an old Win-computer, and selected for "erase entire hd". At first boot I get a GRUB error 18. I've done some searching and found messages related to partitionning, but as I did a complete erase and ubuntu had control over partitionning, I wonder what's going on, and what todo to solve this issue. Thanks for helping
[07:30] <Screechingcat> ompaul, shame on u for being so perverted and thinking only about those words
[07:31] <ompaul> Screechingcat, you are now offtopic
[07:31] <Velorium> sethk: i did that, i get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25915/
[07:31] <Screechingcat> ompaul, just a joke. sorry mate
[07:31] <Gabby_Hayes> shuffle2  .. I just installed ubuntu on an AMD64 2X  (dual-core) ... but used the 32-bit version for a starting place.
[07:31] <ompaul> k
[07:32] <falco_> hey back again
[07:32] <falco_> brb
[07:32] <THX-1138> Gabby_Hayes: Both cores are used?
[07:32] <shuffle2> what i need is a 64 bit live cd with madwifi support.....can ubuntu work for me, or not? that's all i want to know
[07:32] <Screechingcat> do the ubuntu repos have indian mirrors ?
[07:32] <Gabby_Hayes> THX-1138  .. haven't found out, yet .... but haven't found the command,  either  :-(
[07:33] <ompaul> shuffle2, you are going to have to work hard to do that - much easier to use persistance and 32bit
[07:33] <TUX__> okay
[07:33] <tabm0de> any one have had the problem when its not possible to reinstall apache2 after removing the files? because it does not make any apache2 in init.d and doesnt make the files in /etc/apache2 or dir
[07:33] <TUX__> so what do i do again?
[07:33] <ompaul> shuffle2, and that is as far as I am willing to take that
[07:33] <TUX__> i want to change the permissions to a user folder
[07:33] <TUX__> so i can get into it
[07:33] <TUX__> how do i?
[07:33] <TUX__> i am falco
[07:33] <Gabby_Hayes> THX-1138  .. I know there is a command to see the CPUs .. but can't remember or find it
[07:34] <TUX__> it is rendezvous
[07:34] <oxygene_> man chmod
[07:34] <oxygene_> man chown
[07:34] <oxygene_> @TUX__
[07:34] <highneko> How can I check what chipset I have?
[07:34] <Screechingcat> TUX__, !chmod
[07:34] <ompaul> TUX__, I told you once
[07:34] <ompaul> TUx_, sudo chmod -R newuser:newuser /home/olduser
[07:34] <TUX__> chmod -R /home/falco/Desktop/rendezvous
[07:34] <TUX__> chmod: missing operand after `/home/falco/Desktop/rendezvous'
[07:35] <oxygene_> ompaul, chown you mean
[07:35] <ompaul> TUx_, sudo chown -R newuser:newuser /home/olduser  <<< my typo
[07:35] <nikin> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=25844//qoko
[07:35] <TUX__> falco@Smith:~$ sudo chmod -R falco:falco /home/falco/Desktop/rendezvous
[07:35] <TUX__> chmod: invalid mode: `falco:falco'
[07:35] <Velorium> i managed to extract a .tar.gz package but when i do configure i get this, could someone tell me what's wrong? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25915/
[07:35] <shuffle2> thanks for all the help guys
[07:35] <oxygene_> use chown instead of chmod
[07:35] <rod> Hi, how to give a certain user all permissions on a folder + files? chmod -R 777 /media/sda/chmod -R 777 /media/sda/  doesnt work :(
[07:35] <rod> chmod -R 777 /media/sda/chmod -R 777 /media/sda/
[07:35] <RetLaw> Hi folks, I would appreciate some help ! I did a fresh install of ubuntu-server 6.06 on an old Win-computer, and selected for "erase entire hd". At first boot I get a GRUB error 18. I've done some searching and found messages related to partitionning, but as I did a complete erase and ubuntu had control over partitionning, I wonder what's going on, and what todo to solve this issue. Thanks for helping
[07:36] <oxygene_> Velorium, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:36] <TUX__> falco@Smith:~$ sudo chown -R falco:falco /home/falco/Desktop/rendezvous
[07:36] <TUX__> chown: `falco:falco': invalid group
[07:36] <floyd2> TUX__, just right click the dir in nautilus and go to permissions tabs
[07:36] <jmitchj> Could someone help me get my modem up and running?
[07:36] <THX-1138> !modem
[07:36] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[07:36] <TUX__> i can't change them, they are grayed out
[07:36] <TUX__> can
[07:36] <TUX__> can't click em
[07:36] <ompaul> TUX__, what operating system are you using?
[07:37] <TUX__> ubuntu
[07:37] <Screechingcat> jmitchj, is it a dialup or an ADSL modem >
[07:37] <TUX__> lol
[07:37] <jmitchj> dialup
[07:37] <oxygene_> if your username is falco and you use ubuntu, there should also be a group falco
[07:37] <TUX__> i am a total noob
[07:37] <ompaul> TUX__, well you have something broken there
[07:37] <TUX__> uh oh!
[07:37] <DOA61> Has anyone tried to install VMware server onto this version?
[07:37] <oxygene_> what does "groups" say?
[07:37] <ixian_> my sound in games in ubuntu seems lagged about half a second to 1 second behind the video. tried tuxracer and quake2 and its lagged in both games. is there a way to change my sound driver or something?
[07:37] <ompaul> oxygene_, give him grep for it
[07:38] <TUX__> umm groups?
[07:38] <oxygene_> what do you mean ompaul ?
[07:38] <dyn-afk> DOA61 I installed the most recent vmware server on my ubuntu 6.06 machine
[07:38] <dyn-afk> it works really nice :)
[07:38] <jmitchj> Screechingcat: I have a Modem directory with a ton of information...but I can;t make heads or tails out of where to start
[07:38] <ompaul> TUX__, do this: grep 4 /etc/group
[07:38] <DOA61> how did you do it? I am having no joy here
[07:38] <dyn-afk> I tried the howto on the ubuntuforums.org and wiki.ubuntu.com sites and mixt some
[07:39] <ompaul> TUX__, first line back is ?
[07:39] <Screechingcat> jmitchj, are you on dialup or adsl or cable ?
[07:39] <dyn-afk> I used most part of the amd64 vmware server install from wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:39] <jmitchj> Screechingcat: dialup
[07:39] <ibob63> does anyone know which port is required for remote desktop to work?
[07:39] <ompaul> oxygene_, ^^ as above
[07:39] <TUX__> adm:x:4:smith,falco
[07:39] <Velorium> oxygene: did that, got this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25916/
[07:40] <ompaul> dyn-afk, check out help.ubuntu.com
[07:40] <joejaxx> ibob63: 5900 is the port
[07:40] <TUX__> oxygene_ ompaul adm:x:4:smith,falco
[07:40] <ibob63> thanks joejaxx
[07:40] <DOA61> I will give it a look thanks, It wants to complie something and it can not find the header files even when I tell it where they are
[07:40] <oxygene_> velorium, it tells you that it cand find the dev-files for zlib
[07:40] <dyn-afk> DOA61 try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[07:40] <joejaxx> ibob63: you are most welcome
[07:40] <czer323> Where do I look for logs that talk about modules not loading?
[07:40] <ompaul> TUX__, you removed smith as a user?
[07:41] <TUX__> huh?
[07:41] <oxygene_> install libz-dev
[07:41] <dyn-afk> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware_Guide:_Installing_VMware_Server_on_Ubuntu_6.06_LTS_amd64 << I also did parts from that one
[07:41] <Velorium> oxygene: meaning? what do i do?
[07:41] <TUX__> no i removed rendezvous
[07:41] <TUX__> and it installed a game to it and i gotta get to it
[07:41] <TUX__> to move it to my usetr
[07:41] <ompaul> TUX__, smith is the one with the magic powers
[07:41] <oxygene_> development libraries are usually suffixed with "-dev"
[07:41] <Alexander_NL> :dyn-afk wors excellent
[07:41] <TUX__> soo..... i have to do it from there?
[07:41] <GnarusLeo> Can anyone please help me? I have succesfully installed and probed my wireless adapter drivers with ndiswrapper (ndiwswrapper -l is ok),"modprobe ndiswrapper" is ok ... insmod is ok and "ndiswrapper "-m is ok. ... but when I wirte "iwconfig" no wlan0 shows up .. any ideas?
[07:42] <joejaxx> GnarusLeo: are you on dapper?
[07:42] <dyn-afk> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=vmware&titlesearch=Titles << those are the others, just search for vmware on wiki.ubuntu.com :)
[07:42] <GnarusLeo> joejaxx, kubuntu
[07:42] <ompaul> TUX__, try it as smith, do this "su - smith"
[07:42] <Velorium> oxygene: i did, i get install: missing destination file operand after `libz-dev' Try `install --help' for more information.
[07:42] <b03nto> Velorium:inslall zlib1g-dev
[07:42] <TUX__> okayu
[07:42] <roughtrader> anyone have a URL for a recent XGL / compiz guide?
[07:42] <RetLaw> Hi folks, I would appreciate some help ! I did a fresh install of ubuntu-server 6.06 on an old Win-computer, and selected for "erase entire hd". At first boot I get a GRUB error 18. I've done some searching and found messages related to partitionning, but as I did a complete erase and ubuntu had control over partitionning, I wonder what's going on, and what todo to solve this issue. Thanks for helping
[07:42] <joejaxx> GnarusLeo: did you do: sudo depmod -a first?
[07:42] <TUX__> got it now im smith@smith:~$
[07:43] <GnarusLeo> joejaxx, no .. should I?
[07:43] <oxygene_> i'm away now
[07:43] <Velorium> b03nto: same thing
[07:43] <Materazzi> anybody here use xmame?
[07:43] <TUX__> ompaul what do i do now?
[07:43] <joejaxx> GnarusLeo: do: sudo depmod -a     then     sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[07:44] <oxygene_> Velorium, sudo apt-get install packagename
[07:44] <b03nto> Velorium:apt-get inslall zlib1g-dev
[07:44] <GnarusLeo> joejaxx, done ... still no wlan0
[07:44] <mister_roboto> !xgl >roughtrader
[07:44] <b03nto> Velorium:with sudo
[07:44] <ompaul> TUX__, do the command as smith with sudo and see how it goes
[07:44] <ompaul> TUX__, I have to leave now for a while
[07:45] <GnarusLeo> joejaxx, thanks for helping me out btw
[07:45] <TUX__> rgr thanks
[07:45] <floyd2> why aren't the packages at the Ubuntu site http://www.getdeb.net/ not in the repositories?
[07:45] <THX-1138> ompaul - Thanks
[07:45] <joejaxx> GnarusLeo: you are most welcome
[07:45] <Velorium> b03nto; it was sucessful, now do i go ahead and do the ./configure?
[07:45] <GnarusLeo> joejaxx, and lsmod shows that ndiswrapper is loaded
[07:45] <b03nto> Velorium:yes
[07:45] <joejaxx> GnarusLeo: i am just wondering why the interface is not coming up
[07:45] <joejaxx> GnarusLeo: interesting
[07:45] <GnarusLeo> joejaxx, ya, same here .
[07:46] <b03nto> Velorium:i mean for now :p
[07:46] <mister_roboto> floyd2: does that mean they ARE in the repositories?  :)
[07:46] <joejaxx> GnarusLeo: is this a braodcom chipset ?
[07:46] <TUX__> GHAA WAIT ompaul!!!! what do i type in now?
[07:46] <TUX__> ompaul I LOST IT
[07:46] <GnarusLeo> joejaxx, prism
[07:46] <floyd2> mister_roboto, apt-cache search does not find them
[07:46] <GnarusLeo> joejaxx, prisma
[07:46] <TUX__> ompaul GHAA
[07:46] <GnarusLeo> 0000:01:01.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation ISL3886 [Prism Javelin/Prism Xbow]  (rev 01)
[07:47] <Velorium> b03nto: i think it worked; thank you!
[07:47] <b03nto> Velorium: ur welcome
[07:47] <mister_roboto> floyd2: stupid joke, sorry :)  (why aren't they not in the repos)    i don't know how the ubuntu folks select their standard packages
[07:47] <floyd2> Is getdeb.net a way to distribute packages bypassing the repos?
[07:47] <joejaxx> GnarusLeo: have you tried restarting your computer?
[07:47] <GnarusLeo> joejaxx, yes, several times
[07:48] <joejaxx> GnarusLeo: try it again since you did not do depmod -a before
[07:48] <GnarusLeo> joejaxx, ok
[07:48] <mister_roboto> floyd2: you can instal .debs from anywhere, not just the standards repos
[07:48] <mister_roboto> floyd2: at your own risk, of course
[07:48] <rod> i remember a graphical tool in GNOME where I can mount devices and specify their mountpoint etc... It was in System - Administration... Where is it, what's its name? Its gone now
[07:49] <GnarusLeo> joejaxx, ok, actually I am doing this remotly for a friend of mine :) (ssh) .. just so that when I reboot it starts the correct kernel, wich file should I edit in grub to get it to start the proper kernel when I reboot?
[07:49] <floyd2> mister_roboto, right with you...but if Ubuntu is distributing them there....why not in universe repo too?
[07:49] <czer323> !binarydriver
[07:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:49] <THX-1138> joejaxx -similar problem configuring interfaces on boot up. RaLink.
[07:49] <joejaxx> GnarusLeo: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:49] <GnarusLeo> thaks again :)
[07:49] <joejaxx> GnarusLeo: :) no problem
[07:50] <joejaxx> THX-1138: really? are you using ndiswrapper also?
[07:50] <rod> a gtkfrontend for mounting discs people?
[07:50] <mister_roboto> floyd2: that's a good question. you checked and they aren't there? what about multiverse?
[07:51] <THX-1138> joejaxx - Honestly i don't know.
[07:51] <floyd2> mister_roboto, I found a package for quodlibet 0.23.1 in there but its not in the repos for sure
[07:51] <Materazzi> anybody know where i can get good roms xmame?
[07:52] <joejaxx> Materazzi: this is the wrong channel to ask :\
[07:52] <czer323> floyd2, there's a very up-to-date of Quod Libet 0.23.1 in Edgy's repos.
[07:52] <floyd2> czer323, but the edgy package won't install in dapper
[07:53] <joejaxx> THX-1138: did you just install the card and try and boot it up?
[07:53] <Materazzi> joejaxx, can u indicate me the right channel?
[07:53] <czer323> floyd2, true.  There are probably some missing dependancies.
[07:53] <GnarusLeo> joejaxx, actually no :( still no wlan0
[07:53] <floyd2> czer323, the package at getdeb.net does install in dapper
[07:53] <joejaxx> Materazzi: well having roms are somewhat illegal
[07:53] <SkramX> anywhere i can see how to get ubuntu to see my acer aspire 3003LCI's laptop battery status?
[07:53] <joejaxx> Materazzi: unless they are homebrew
[07:53] <Materazzi> joejaxx, ok
[07:53] <joejaxx> SkramX: acpi -b
[07:53] <SkramX> I am upgrading to 6.06 as I type, but am wondering how if it isnt in the new elease
[07:53] <THX-1138> Exactly, there is a native gpl driver - here http://sourceforge.net/projects/rt2400/
[07:54] <Materazzi> joejaxx, well do u know where i can get homebrew ones?
[07:54] <czer323> floyd2, then have fun. ;)  If it doesn't work for some reason, you know why.
[07:54] <SkramX> joejaxx: it only detects if the AC-Adapater is plugged in or not
[07:54] <joejaxx> Materazzi: no i do not actually :\
[07:54] <SkramX> not the battery status ;(
[07:54] <floyd2> so why aren't the getdeb packages getting put into multiverse or somewhere?
[07:54] <floyd2> czer323, I've been using it for a while with no probs
[07:54] <THX-1138> joejaxx - can grub bypass some items on boot?
[07:54] <Materazzi> joejaxx, :-)
[07:55] <b03nto> Materazzi: i get mine from here http://www.romnation.net/
[07:55] <ACU> guys, I have installed Proftpd and thanks to GPROFTPD I am able to start the ftp server. Two questions: 1) If I use the web browser to acess the proftpd I can see and download files. How can I created folders or upload using Firefox. What do I need to enable?   Question 2) is any ftp client for linux with a user friendly gui ?
[07:55] <joejaxx> SkramX: acpi -b shows you the battery status when the computer is not plugged in
[07:55] <joejaxx> GnarusLeo: i cannot believe it still does not work :(
[07:55] <floyd2> are the packages submitted by 3rd parties?
[07:55] <GnarusLeo> joejaxx, but thanks .. Ill try searching the web for it
[07:55] <joejaxx> GnarusLeo: what are the other interfaces
[07:56] <joejaxx> THX-1138: what do you mean by bypass
[07:56] <Materazzi> tnx b03nto
[07:56] <GnarusLeo> joejaxx, lo, eth0, eth1, sit0
[07:56] <Shish> ACU: nautilus (the gnome file explorer) does FTP both ways, firefox only does downloads (unless you get an extension)
[07:56] <THX-1138> joejaxx - Can i follow you around tommorow and learn linux?
[07:56] <b03nto> Materazzi: ur welcome :)
[07:56] <SkramX> joejaxx: ill try that...
[07:56] <joejaxx> THX-1138: lol sure
[07:56] <SkramX> joejaxx: not for mine..
[07:56] <joejaxx> SkramX: ah ok
[07:56] <SkramX> it doesnt show anything
[07:56] <jokoon> Hello
[07:57] <THX-1138> joejaxx: not load a troublesome module
[07:57] <SkramX> -V shows that the AC-Adapter is offline, that is all
[07:57] <joejaxx> GnarusLeo: iwconfig
[07:57] <joejaxx> GnarusLeo: type that in
[07:57] <SkramX> maybe it works in 6.06 :)
[07:57] <GnarusLeo> joejaxx, I did .. and thats the interfaces listed
[07:57] <SkramX> downloading the 699mb needed to go from hoary to dapper
[07:57] <rayston> how do I make myself owner of a HD?
[07:57] <THX-1138> nvm - man grub. - I'll find it.
[07:57] <GnarusLeo> joejaxx, but only eth1 is allowed scaning
[07:57] <joejaxx> GnarusLeo: ahh
[07:57] <Starker> guys can any one help me importing my bookmarks from the firefox actually located on the windows partition to the one here on Ubuntu?
[07:57] <joejaxx> GnarusLeo: that is the interface
[07:58] <joejaxx> THX-1138: i forget at the moment on how to blacklist modules
[07:58] <GnarusLeo> joejaxx, yes, probably .. but that has never worked, thats why I wanted to get wlan0 from ndiswrapper with original driver s:)
[07:58] <xav_> Starker, what's the problem?
[07:58] <jokoon> Starker: try to install foxmark extension
[07:58] <joejaxx> GnarusLeo: is the wireless network open?
[07:58] <GnarusLeo> joejaxx, yes
[07:58] <ryanakca> offtopic: anybody have a link to freenode's policy on ops ? (like the part on not being opped unless required)
[07:58] <GnarusLeo> joejaxx, have set it open for testing
[07:59] <floyd2> I guess I was wrong. The getdeb.net website isn't run by Ubuntu (just uses their logo) :-)
[07:59] <jokoon> Starker: when you are with windows
[07:59] <joejaxx> GnarusLeo: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid NETWORKNAME
[07:59] <joejaxx> GnarusLeo: sudo dhclient eth1
[07:59] <Starker> xav_ : actually I cant locate my windows partition and thus have no idea how to import book marks from there
[07:59] <GnarusLeo> joejaxx, yes, I have tried that several times (before I started with ndiswrapper), but it doesnt work. For my card I need to use the windows drivers (wich I have set up with ndiswrapper)
[08:00] <rod> .
[08:00] <joejaxx> GnarusLeo: is dapper supposed to have native support with your card?
[08:00] <rod> my usb harddisk is mounted RO but mtab/fstab says RW and permissions are OK... Where could it be giong wrong?
[08:01] <GnarusLeo> joejaxx, no
[08:01] <SkramX> wow.. can apt-get download two files at once?
[08:01] <PseudoPlacebo> In the Ubuntu server installation where is the MySQL folder located?
[08:01] <SkramX> it looks likes it is doing that
[08:01] <aLPHa_LeaK>  'lo
[08:01] <SkramX> in the same apt-get session
[08:01] <joejaxx> GnarusLeo: i wonder why eth1 is coming up then
[08:01] <GnarusLeo> joejaxx, that has allways been there ..
[08:01] <xav_> Starker, can't locate it?
[08:01] <joejaxx> GnarusLeo: you have more than one ethernet card?
[08:01] <GnarusLeo> joejaxx, eth0 is for cable
[08:02] <joejaxx> GnarusLeo: you mean the ethernet going to the cable modem right?
[08:02] <GnarusLeo> joejaxx, yes ..
[08:02] <ixian_> my sound in games in ubuntu seems lagged about half a second to 1 second behind the video. tried tuxracer and quake2 and its lagged in both games. is there a way to change my sound driver or something?
[08:02] <GnarusLeo> joejaxx, and I am trying to get the wireless adapter to work
[08:03] <joejaxx> GnarusLeo: well dapper has it coming up as eth1 which is probably interferring with ndiswrapper
[08:03] <geniusvicks> How do I change the artist name, album name etc. of my mp3 files?
[08:03] <GnarusLeo> joejaxx, yeah, was affraid of that ... can I remove it somehow?
[08:03] <Alexander_NL> !
[08:03] <jokoon> I need some help since I burned ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso 5 times, the disc booted correctly, but when I ran the thing to check if the CD has not corrupted datas, I had between 9 and 11 BAD checksums, BUT I checked my .iso MD5 severals times according to the ubuntu site. the last CD I just burned was done with the last nero, in 4x (my CD writer is 16x and my cd was 48x), others CD were...
[08:03] <jokoon> ...burned with burn at once or imgburn.
[08:03] <Starker> xav_ : actually I dont see any files on the windows partition .. it must not be formatted or mounted (if thats the term)
[08:04] <joejaxx> GnarusLeo: i think you whould have to disable the module but i have no idea what the module for the Prism cards are
[08:04] <Alexander_NL> @jokoon why do you need the cd?
[08:04] <jenda> Is there a way to make ls print the path to each file, too?
[08:04] <GnarusLeo> joejaxx, ok Ill search around again :) Thanks
[08:04] <giovanni> I just installed ubuntu and now neither windows nor ubuntu recognize my dvd/cd-rw drive =/
[08:04] <tabm0de> how do i fix "It looks like you've deleted /etc/apache2/mods-available/cgid.load, so mod_cgid cannot be enabled.  To fix this, please purge and reinstall apache2-common."
[08:04] <jokoon> Alexander_NL: to install ubuntu for the first time
[08:05] <Alexander_NL> jokoon, you could use instlux instead
[08:05] <Alexander_NL> no need for cd then
[08:05] <sethk> giovanni, nothing in the ubuntu install can possibly have an effect on windows' ability to recognize a drive
[08:05] <joejaxx> GnarusLeo: you are most welcome
[08:05] <giovanni> thats why im really confused ;x
[08:05] <sethk> giovanni, check the cables, the usual stuff when something isn't recognized
[08:05] <giovanni> its a laptop
[08:06] <giovanni> either way ubuntu wont mount the drive either
[08:06] <Materazzi> !pastebin
[08:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:06] <xav_> Starker, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Windows
[08:06] <Aaron> How can i find out what packages ubuntu has before installing it? I need at least alsa 1.06 or better for my sound card?
[08:06] <sethk> giovanni, if it is removable, remove it and put it back in.  sounds like the laptop bios is confused about the drive state
[08:07] <Alexander_NL> jokoon: if you're trying to install ubuntu on your pc for dual boot with windows present you wouldn't need a cd its not a fix but still...
[08:07] <xtriox> hey guys how can I make the laptop to shutdown when closiing the lid?
[08:07] <Alexander_NL> don't burn the cd at lower speed, you should be able to burn it at max speed
[08:07] <rayston> Help, I have a secondary HD mounted but I apparently dont have privileges to fix it, how do I fix this?
[08:07] <giovanni> yea ill try that
[08:07] <codecaine> when you add users on your ubuntu do they get sudo privs?
[08:08] <Alexander_NL> Lxndr: hi
[08:08] <xav_> xtriox, I believe it's possible, but don't know how
[08:08] <joejaxx> codecaine: not automatically
[08:09] <jokoon> Alexander_NL: thanks a lot for the help
[08:09] <joejaxx> codecaine: you have to set them up to have administrative privileges
[08:10] <jokoon> rebooting
[08:10] <Alexander_NL> jokoon: have fun
[08:10] <codecaine> ok
[08:10] <codecaine> because I added a account when I did sudo and a superuserfile it asked for there password but no affect happen
[08:11] <geniusvicks> How do I change the artist name, album name etc. of my mp3 files?
[08:11] <wetduck> brb
[08:11] <sethk> codecaine, you can add a user to the admin groups, and you can allow users to run various things using the sudo configuration (visudo)
[08:12] <boink> I think you can do that with xmms even
[08:12] <geniusvicks> really?
[08:12] <boink> dunno, think so.
[08:12] <joejaxx> geniusvicks: yeah i think so
[08:12] <seuna> qews
[08:12] <tj_> does anybody know of a terminal based media player?
[08:12] <boink> mplayer
[08:12] <b03nto> geniusvicks: if u use sms just right click | view file info.. and edit it
[08:13] <Materazzi> b03nto, what do u use? gxmame or kxmame?
[08:13] <b03nto> geniusvicks: i mean xmms :)
[08:13] <geniusvicks> what's sms?
[08:13] <geniusvicks> ok
[08:13] <geniusvicks> I wuz tryin to edit it with Rhythmbok
[08:13] <geniusvicks> *Rythymbox
[08:13] <geniusvicks> But couldnt
[08:13] <geniusvicks> bo3nto: Ya XMMS works
[08:14] <b03nto> Materazzi: sorry, im not playing with mame, gba only :p
[08:14] <fdas> hi
[08:14] <IceGuest_5_> i need some help
[08:14] <joejaxx> IceGuest_5_: ask your question :)
[08:14] <geniusvicks> joejaxx: thanks
[08:14] <joejaxx> geniusvicks: you are most welcome
[08:14] <boink> !ask
[08:14] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:14] <IceGuest_5_> ok i cantr get acces to my slave hdd
[08:14] <TUX__> how do i update my graphics card?
[08:14] <Alexander_NL> suck
[08:14] <Alexander_NL> s
[08:14] <b03nto> tj_: xmms2
[08:14] <TUX__> i tried to play true combat elite and it's all weired
[08:14] <xav_> TUX__, you buy a new one, and replace it in your box
[08:15] <fdas> can someone tell me why debian people don't like ubuntu people? Im new to this linux world and Im finding that in alot of pages :S so I wanna know the true, what is happening ...
[08:15] <TUX__> not the same on my other comp
[08:15] <TUX__> xav_ thats not really an option..
[08:15] <IceGuest_5_> ok i cantr get acces to my slave hdd
[08:15] <Alexander_NL> IceGuest_5_: how do you mean, did it turn up during install?
[08:15] <TUX__> xav_ how do i update the drivers?
[08:15] <TUX__> thats what i ment
[08:15] <Alexander_NL> fdas: noticed that too
[08:15] <IceGuest_5_> i dident have it connected during the install
[08:16] <fdas> mmm ubuntu people don't like debian people too?
[08:16] <xav_> fdas, maybe because ubuntu is more newbie oriented
[08:16] <joejaxx> IceGuest_5_: you probably have to mount it
[08:16] <sethk> fdas, debian people hate everyone
[08:16] <fdas> :O
[08:16] <fdas> everyone?
[08:16] <xtriox> somebody knows how can I make the laptop to shutdown when closiing the lid?
[08:16] <sethk> fdas, at least, the people in #debian.  they have serious psychiatric disorders
[08:16] <joejaxx> fdas: ubuntu people do not hate debian people
[08:16] <xav_> sethk, huh?
[08:16] <joejaxx> xtriox: the power management settings
[08:16] <sethk> xav_, the #debian channel is famous for that
[08:17] <xtriox> no it wont let me
[08:17] <fdas> Im started whit fedora but I read about ubuntu and debian and I wanna try but I can't take the choise because I read alot of this fight
[08:17] <Alexander_NL> fdas: don know some friction i gues
[08:17] <joejaxx> fdas: sethk this is kind of offtopic for this channel
[08:17] <xtriox> the power management just gime two options: hibernate and suspend but not shutdown
[08:17] <Alexander_NL> IceGuest_5_,: i see
[08:17] <fdas> sethk, #debian people its crazy?
[08:17] <sethk> joejaxx, perhaps.  I didn't bring it up
[08:17] <sethk> fdas, IMO, yes.
[08:17] <xav_> fdas, I would suggest ubuntu for you
[08:17] <xtriox> since none of the two given options work then I would like to shutdown
[08:17] <xav_> but #debian is fine, and debian too
[08:17] <Alexander_NL> IceGuest_5_, : did it ever show under windows?
[08:17] <sethk> fdas, go to #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to continue this discussion  :)
[08:17] <fdas> well joejaxx, where can ask the true?
[08:18] <fdas> ohhh
[08:18] <fdas> thanks
[08:18] <joejaxx> fdas: :)
[08:18] <fdas> Im going
[08:18] <joejaxx> xtriox: :\
[08:18] <rayston> Help, I have a secondary HD mounted but I apparently dont have privileges to fix it, how do I fix this?
[08:18] <joejaxx> xtriox: :\
[08:18] <rayston> dont have privileges to copy to it, that is
[08:18] <xtriox> what does that mean?
[08:19] <joejaxx> xtriox: i am trying to think of what the advnace power management package was
[08:19] <joejaxx> advnace*
[08:19] <xtriox> ok thanks
[08:19] <jokoon> Alexander_NL: haven't you some tutorial to migrate to linux using instlux : I'm not used to linux
[08:19] <jokoon> Alexander_NL: for ubuntu especially
[08:20] <Alexander_NL> jokoon: yeah there is, hang on
[08:20] <jokoon> thanks
[08:21] <THX-1138> Alexander_NL: Any help for your wifi boot up troubles? - the link ompaul had helpedwith acpi not wifi networking-
[08:22] <b03nto> guys, how to do screencast in ubuntu ?
[08:22] <IceGuest_5_> Alexander : yes it did show under windows, windows is on that hdd
[08:22] <Alexander_NL> THX-1138, : not really but the usb stick was crappy as well think it is a driver problem (install problems with ndiswrapper as well)
[08:22] <boink> b03nto: there's an option in the menu upper left
[08:22] <Alexander_NL> jokoon: the following link is the general no cd install guide: http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html but there is one specifically for instlux
[08:23] <joejaxx> IceGuest_5_: wait it is an ntfs drive?
[08:23] <IceGuest_5_> yes
[08:23] <xtriox> joejaxx, maybe here? /apps/gnome-power-manager/lock_use_screensaver_settings
[08:23] <THX-1138> Alexander_NL: Ralink has the same problem. - the real trouble especially for a new user after hours of setting up is no boot up - OR work around
[08:24] <b03nto> boink: really, i mean screen cast not just screenshot
[08:24] <joejaxx> xtriox: is gnome-power-manager installed?
[08:24] <boink> aaah, ok.
[08:24] <Alexander_NL> THX-1138, : you're right, the wifi trouble is something stopping migration to ubuntu
[08:24] <xtriox> joejaxx, I guess it is
[08:24] <joejaxx> xtriox: i wish i could remember
[08:24] <boink> isn't ralink well supported in ubuntu?
[08:25] <joejaxx> xtriox: there is a advanced power management package for ubuntu
[08:25] <tabm0de> how is it possible to get  working in ubuntu terminal?
[08:25] <tabm0de> doent work in nano
[08:25] <SkramX> i upgraded from 5.04 to 6.06 but a lot of things seem messed up.. if i download and put in the 6.06 cd, can i upgrade everything and possibly fix the problems?
[08:25] <Alexander_NL> jokoon: instlux should install fine from windows, make sure you pick the netboot version
[08:25] <joejaxx> xtriox: but i cannot remember what it is since i have not used gnome in a long time
[08:25] <boink> tabm0de: you mean like umlauts and the such?
[08:25] <xtriox> joejaxx, WOW thats what I need right now...or my laptop is going to get burned
[08:25] <Alexander_NL> jokoon: it simply automates the process in the guide
[08:25] <THX-1138> Alexander_NL: likely a grub command somewhere hidden on the web. - arcanedustylinuxcommands.com - maybe? - lol
[08:25] <boink>  ?
[08:26] <vijay> can someone help : problem with fonts in terminal char m mixing with other characters
[08:26] <vijay> does anyone elseh hav the same font
[08:26] <Alexander_NL> THX-1138, : :)
[08:26] <jokoon> Alexander_NL: ah ok, I downloaded instluxCDROMUbuntu5_10_en.exe
[08:26] <crippy> Damn windows updates.
[08:27] <tabm0de> boink: well  i got a swedish keyboard, and vi or nano cant get them to work for some reason
[08:27] <Alexander_NL> jokoon: that one asks for the cd at reboot, also handy but you have to have the cd :) netboot version simply reboots makes ftp connection and gets the stuff from the nearest server
[08:27] <anmar> Hey guys... is there a SMP kernel for Edgy Eft. running CoreDuo laptop here ?
[08:27] <joejaxx> xtriox: yeah i am sorry i do not remember the name of it :\
[08:27] <anmar> I tried the linux-686-smp but it is obselete now.
[08:27] <torch> erm
[08:27] <crippy> anmar, compile your own kernel.
[08:27] <torch> #ubuntu guys
[08:27] <torch> something's wrong here
[08:27] <boink> ok, what's wrong?
[08:27] <torch> I installed ubuntu and everything, and after the reboot nothing happened
[08:27] <TimbaLand> Ubuntu Problem: I'd like some comments on Accessing Files on the Ubuntu Linux machine from Windows? I can access my Windows Shares quite easily from Ubuntu, but I can't seem to break through the door into my Ubuntu shares, which are set. What am I missing?
[08:28] <anmar> crippy: hehe.. that is what I wanted to avoid :)
[08:28] <xtriox> joejaxx, dont worry
[08:28] <THX-1138> vijay - did changing the "profile" languge settings help?
[08:28] <Alexander_NL> torch: what nothing happened?
[08:28] <joejaxx> xtriox: if i can remember and you are on i will let you know
[08:28] <crippy> anmar, Dont avoid it, Its really quite simple when you've done it once, Read a guide and just do it ;-)
[08:28] <torch> as in after the boot there's just a blinking underscore
[08:28] <torch> it was like this before installing ubuntu too
[08:28] <vijay> THX - profile of the terminal
[08:28] <vijay> ?
[08:29] <THX-1138> vijay - yes user "profile" - no idea but maybe..
[08:29] <anmar> crippy: oh.. I am not avoiding it.. it is partly lazy but most importantly the effort invovled in getting all the patches that Ubuntu puts in their kernels
[08:29] <jokoon> Alexander_NL: this file : instluxNETUbuntu6_06english.exe ?
[08:29] <xtriox> joejaxx, THANKS I really need it
[08:30] <joejaxx> xtriox: you are most welcome
[08:30] <Alexander_NL> jokoon: should do the trick!
[08:30] <vijay> ok will check it out
[08:30] <jokoon> :)
[08:30] <THX-1138> Three cheers for joejaxx. :)
[08:30] <joejaxx> THX-1138: :)
[08:30] <Renan_s2> !info polygen
[08:30] <ubotu> polygen: generator of random sentences from grammar definitions. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.6.ds1-3 (dapper), package size 89 kB, installed size 512 kB
[08:30] <crippy> anmar, Im running latest vanilla kernel with no probs on my thinkpad if thats any comfort :P but heh, whatever you feel comfortable with doing, But other than the linux-686-smp and compiling a kernel i dont think theres any alternatives.
[08:31] <jokoon> Ok I reboot now (hope it is a good thing)
[08:31] <anmar> crippy: cool.. did not know that vaniall would do..
[08:31] <ultm8> hi everybody
[08:31] <crippy> anmar, Yup, no probs at all up to now :-)
[08:31] <anmar> crippy: I am running a lenovo core duo machine and it is ok so far with Edgy.
[08:31] <anmar> crippy: sweet. what version 2.6.18 ?
[08:31] <joejaxx> ultm8: hello
[08:32] <THX-1138> anmar - is it using both cores?
[08:32] <crippy> anmar, You're a lucky sod :P im stuck with a thinkpad t23 :( for now anyways
[08:32] <anmar> THX-1138: nope.
[08:32] <anmar> crippy: hehehe :P\
[08:32] <crippy> anmar, Uhh i cant remember the kernel version, if your here in about 20 mins when ive finished installing updates ill check for ya
[08:32] <TimbaLand> I'm needing some advice on accessing my Ubuntu Shares from Windows? I can access my WinXP files from Ubuntu however. Shares are set. I'm hitting a brick wall however. Anyone?
[08:32] <THX-1138> anmar - ack - how do i tell? easy command line command?
[08:32] <crippy> THX-1138, uname -a
[08:33] <anmar> THX-1138: simple.. just run the system monitor in GNOME it will show you the CPU load for one or two CPUs
[08:33] <anmar> crippy: I might. in the meantime, I will compile 2.6.18 :D
[08:33] <THX-1138> crippy - yes, the kernel is installed.  - is it being used? anmar - gee, that is too easy. - got something harder? J/K
[08:34] <jenda> Is there a way to make ls print the path to each file found?
[08:34] <giovanni> I removed the cd-drive and then put it back in... no difference
[08:34] <anmar> THX-1138: hehe.. yes.. try $dmesg | grep CPU :)
[08:34] <kaffeewoller> hallo
[08:34] <kaffeewoller> i got a problem:
[08:34] <THX-1138> anmar - PERFECT!
[08:34] <anmar> THX-1138: LOL
[08:35] <anmar> BTW, XFCE4 on Edgy Eft rocks.. it is really sweet.
[08:35] <crippy> THX-1138, ahh sorry, i assumed you wanted to know if the SMP kernel was installed
[08:35] <kaffeewoller> from login to gnome, i mean hitting enter, ubuntu makes a 2min pause before continuing, and while doing that gives me a black screen
[08:36] <kaffeewoller> do you understand?
[08:36] <kaffeewoller> this may be somehow connected to deleting /etc/network/interfaces?
[08:36] <THX-1138> crippy - I started a txt file "Terminal Savers and Tips. - it has grown HUGE. thats okay i am hooked on linux power.
[08:37] <sureshot> THX-1138 hey would you email me all of the type of info i would benefit greatly for that and i would be thankful
[08:38] <giovanni> I installed ubuntu last night, but I can't access me cd-drive anymore in ubuntu or windows.  I tried popping it out and then putting it back in (im on a laptop) but that didnt do anything ;x
[08:38] <crippy> THX-1138, lol, Im not surprised, Im not exactly a newbie, (but recently only been using linux for coursework and writing crappy scripts) but im still finding new and interesting ways of entertaining myself
[08:38] <crippy> Theres alot that confuses me about ubuntu though
[08:38] <crippy> Like why theres no compiler installed by default.
[08:38] <earthian> hello
[08:38] <THX-1138> sureshot - i will be embarassed by the mess but yes, give me a couple of mins to  post it to pastebin
[08:38] <earthian> i have got a problem with compiz installation
[08:38] <earthian> where i could go search for help?
[08:39] <earthian> #compiz seems to be empty
[08:39] <crippy> #ubuntu-xgl ?
[08:39] <THX-1138> crippy - lol
[08:39] <joejaxx> !compiz
[08:39] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:39] <THX-1138> brb
[08:39] <joejaxx> earthian: join #ubuntu-xgl :)
[08:39] <earthian> i have problem with dependencies
[08:39] <earthian>  compiz: Depends: compiz-plugins (>= 0.2) but it is not going to be installed
[08:39] <sureshot> ok THX-1138 dont care about the mess i understand but the information would be greatly benificial to me and i would use it often
[08:39] <earthian> oh thanks joejaxx
[08:39] <joejaxx> earthian: you are most welcome
[08:40] <crippy> Does anyone know why the ubuntu guys decided not to have a compiler installed by defualt?
[08:40] <joejaxx> crippy: i think for edgy it will be
[08:40] <crippy> :D good :-)
[08:40] <sureshot> to keep the install size down put in functionality and let you download the extras like that
[08:41] <crippy> but on a linux system i dont really consider it an 'extra' its more of an 'essential'
[08:41] <orna> hi all
[08:41] <sureshot> if you write in c i do not so that is differen for me
[08:41] <orna> does anyone know if I can share folders under ubuntu if I have a wireless network in my house
[08:41] <orna> all the pc's are using ubunut
[08:41] <sureshot> i guess you cant please all the people all the time LOL
[08:42] <crippy> Its nothing to do with programming in c, If the software you want is not in the repo's and theres no .deb your stuck either using alien(if theres an rpm) or compiling from source, which you cant do without a compiler :-)
[08:42] <joejaxx> crippy: :P
[08:42] <crippy> Kind of annoying going to install something and then remembering theres no compiler :D
[08:43] <joejaxx> orna: System >Administration >Shared Folders
[08:43] <sureshot> i guess you cant please all the people all the time LOL
[08:43] <joejaxx> crippy: gcc is included is it not?
[08:43] <jokoon> Alexander_NL: Ok fine but when I'm stuck with this "grub>" thing what should I do ?
[08:43] <orna> joejaxx: Will all the pc's see the folders ?
[08:43] <crippy> joejaxx: Nope, you have to install build-essential
[08:43] <joejaxx> orna: no you then have to
[08:44] <joejaxx> orna: Places > Connec to servers
[08:44] <sureshot> i am still a noob  i guess i dont do that yet so far my computer does all i need it to be if i have need for that funtion then i will have your view right now i guess i dont.. sorry if i offened
[08:44] <joejaxx> Connect*
[08:45] <orna> joejaxx: I use an Edimax wirless router. is this the server ?
[08:45] <crippy> sureshot, No worries, you didnt offend anyone, and your right, cant please all people all the time :P
[08:45] <joejaxx> orna: the server whould be the computer you setup the shared folder on
[08:45] <sureshot> if anyother of you ubuntu gurus out there have files of command and such crib sheet to help with syntax i would love to have them if you are willing to share
[08:46] <joejaxx> sureshot: you mean bash commands?
[08:46] <orna> joejaxx: I got it - I will share a folder on one pc, and then I will conect to server on the other computer I want to see the folder ?
[08:46] <crippy> sureshot, I could get you a few bash books if you'd like
[08:46] <fluxinator> bash w00t!
[08:46] <joejaxx> orna: yes :)
[08:46] <joejaxx> fluxinator: ! :)
[08:46] <sureshot> crippy thanks and it all depends on demand i guess i hope to get that far in the near future i am working hard on this.. i am very add and have other disabilites so i am doing well i thing or hope LOL
[08:47] <giovanni> can someone hlep me access my cd-drive? :[
[08:47] <sureshot> crippy that would help no nothing about scripts
[08:47] <orna> joejaxx: Thank's & excuse me for my dumbness, I was a winxp user :-P
[08:47] <joejaxx> orna: it is quite alright you are not dumb
[08:47] <sureshot> crippy a.d.d install of add
[08:47] <joejaxx> orna: you are most welcome
[08:47] <fluxinator> orna, you will learn quickly enough, be easy on yourself
[08:47] <jenda> giovanni: I'm afraid you'll have to describe the problem in more detail...
[08:47] <sureshot> install=instead
[08:48] <crippy> sureshot, Well, i wish you well :-) finding out new things is always fun.
[08:48] <giovanni> ok well i was here earlier trying to fix my problem
[08:48] <crippy> sureshot, No worries, i knew what ya meant.
[08:48] <giovanni> i installed ubuntu last night and for some odd reasonm that no one knew, my cd-drive stopped showing up in windows
[08:48] <eracc> orna, ignorant and dumb are two different things. Ignorance can be cured. Dumb is for life. ;-)
[08:48] <giovanni> and it wont work in ubuntu
[08:48] <giovanni> mount: special device /dev/scd0 does not exist
[08:48] <sureshot> its all i have to do i lay on the couch most of the time with my laptop on a chair in front of me LOL
[08:48] <sureshot> crippy its all i have to do i lay on the couch most of the time with my laptop on a chair in front of me LOL
[08:49] <giovanni> if i try to mount it it tells me: mount: special device /dev/scd0 does not exist
[08:49] <sethk> giovanni, your CD is  SCSI cd drive?  that's quite unlikely
[08:49] <orna> eracc: Well, 10x, actually I was lazzy to look in goodle. I just didn't know how to look for the answer
[08:49] <crippy> sureshot, and http://www.linuxcommand.org can be fairly helpful to learn the basics, If you didnt know about it already
[08:49] <giovanni> its a laptop
[08:49] <sethk> giovanni, that's the wrong device, unless you have scsi in that box.  I've never seen scsi in a laptop cd
[08:49] <giovanni> how can i change it?
[08:49] <sureshot> crippy putting it in my favorts write now
[08:50] <crippy> sureshot, Aye, My favorite hobby when im not in college stuck with a restrictive windows box
[08:50] <sethk> giovanni, you can poke around in /sys to figure out what devices you really have.  I would try /dev/hdc as your cd drive.
[08:50] <highneko> What's the program for setting up monitor settings and stuff?
[08:50] <bsdfox> anyone used a zydas 1201 wifi card successfully? I installed the firmware and the card detects, can see networks, but I can't ping the router or gateway or anything.. wifi works fine with another usb adapter on the same system
[08:50] <eracc> orna, creating good search strings for web searches can be challenging. Especially if one does not really know the search terms to use.
[08:50] <sethk> highneko, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:51] <sureshot> crippy i have been a network eng.. all my life in windows novell and such i had ms products if it were not the games i play ms would not be in my house
[08:51] <highneko> sethk: Ok, I'm gonna write this down now. Thanks. ;)
[08:51] <crippy> sureshot, Aye,Windows and novell zenworks in college
[08:51] <tjb891> is there a eqivilent to ctrl alt delete in ubuntu?
[08:51] <crippy> sureshot, the worst part about it is all the policies and crap, Cant even access the display properties to make the shitty eye burning CRT refresh at more than 5hx
[08:52] <crippy> hz*
[08:52] <sureshot> crippy novell and zen is fun windows is to buggy LOL
[08:52] <sureshot> crippy i always were the admin so i had that but i was the one that did what you are saying it caused people to grip at me a lot bummers
[08:53] <redDEADresolve> i needed help with beryl, i wanted to know how what i needed to enable to get the menus to wobble when i click on them
[08:53] <crippy> sureshot, its not too bad, because they left a C compiler, BAM there goes all of the policies ;-)
[08:54] <crippy> sureshot, but other than sshing home i stick to the rules mostly :P
[08:54] <[A] ndy80> in the next-next-next version of Ubuntu, the one that will include Xgl/AIGLX (because... yes, I know ubuntu will include it) will they use Compiz or Beryl?
[08:54] <sevenood> hi
[08:55] <andy> hi all, I have 2 sata hard drives (One with WinXP and one with Ubuntu).  Is there a way I can make my computer ask me which drive I would like to boot into?
[08:55] <sureshot> crippy when at home i try to do all i can to show the wholes in ms products and wep secruity
[08:55] <crippy> andy: Yeah a bootloader set up accordingly.
[08:55] <giovanni> sethk, /dev/hdc doesn't work -- it says that it isnt found. I did find a few folders saying scsi though
[08:55] <eracc> tjb891, the equivalent is "ctrl alt delete". The question is what do you expect it to do?
[08:55] <jokoon> Alexander_NL : Ok fine but when I'm stuck with this "grub>" thing what should I do ?
[08:55] <andy> could you reccomend a boot loader
[08:55] <andy> ?
[08:55] <crippy> andy: grub
[08:55] <sevenood> what about grub?
[08:56] <sethk> giovanni, that doesn't mean anything, unless the folders actually have something in them.
[08:56] <andy> ok, Ill google it, thanks
[08:56] <Flannel> andy: grub will do that, so will lilo.  grub is the default ubuntu bootloader
[08:56] <sethk> giovanni, I was guessing at hdc, of course.  try hdb and hdd also.
[08:56] <crippy> sureshot, Shh, im using WEP
[08:56] <crippy> :P
[08:56] <redDEADresolve> i needed help with beryl, i wanted to know how or what i needed to enable to get the menus to wobble when i click on them. They windows wobble but not the menus
[08:56] <sethk> giovanni, see if there is a file    /dev/cdrom    or /dev/cdrom*        .  do ls -l /dev/cd*          you might find a link to your cd device
[08:56] <giovanni> sethk, ill try those.  there actually is stuff inside the scsi_device:0:0:0:0 folder, but i have no idea what any of it is
[08:57] <andy> how do I install grub?
[08:57] <Alexander_NL> jokoon: you're stuck with grub? how so
[08:57] <crippy> andy: theres an option to install it when you install ubuntu
[08:57] <sureshot> crippy i read an f.b.i document that said with 2 laptops uning linux and some utilities wep can be broken in less than 10 minutes they did a demo and had the wep key in less than 3mintues
[08:57] <Flannel> andy: if you've already installed ubuntu, read the first link ubotu is sening you
[08:57] <jokoon> I mean what should I tell him to do ? :s
[08:57] <Flannel> !tell andy about grub
[08:57] <Samuli^> I don't think it's even an option. It just install it no matter what.
[08:58] <sevenood> hey people i now that it is a stupis guestion but i dont know in what progr. i must execute *.deb files , my system do it defaultly in archive progr.
[08:58] <eracc> Hmmm, I wonder it tjb891 actually just pressed Ctl Alt Del.
[08:58] <sethk> giovanni, it is a very new laptop?  does it have SATA?
[08:58] <eracc> *if
[08:58] <crippy> sureshot, Yeah its not the most secure, but im stuck with it since i have an older wireless router, But combined with Access lists its secure enough for what i need.
[08:58] <andy> what link?
[08:58] <sureshot> i wish we would all go back to scsi
[08:58] <Samuli^> sevenood, dpkg or just double-click the while on nautilus and it should open in gdebi.
[08:58] <spiwaterwing> Problem: Ubuntu does not appear to work correctly with my ethernet card (Does not seem to be able to keep it as the default device).
[08:58] <Flannel> andy: check your query from ubotu
[08:58] <eracc> sureshot, amen brother.
[08:58] <sevenood> thx samuli
[08:58] <crippy> sureshot, Somehow in this area i doubt people are gunna sit ther with airsnort to get through wep then try spoof a mac address just to piggyback :-)
[08:59] <giovanni> sethk, yea i got it in august
[08:59] <xtriox> any way to put a S3 Unichrome IGP to work in ubuntu?
[08:59] <MetaMorfoziS> have anybody working mplayer plugin with ff rc2
[08:59] <Alexander_NL> jokoon: let's recap, you've run instlux_netboot and rebooted the pc and then you see grub?
[08:59] <MetaMorfoziS> ?
[08:59] <andy> thanks
[08:59] <Flannel> MetaMorfoziS: you probably want #ubuntu+1
[08:59] <jokoon> hum
[08:59] <giovanni> sethk, the harddrive is sata, im not sure if the cd-drive is
[08:59] <sethk> giovanni, SATA drives look like SCSI drives, so you may have an SATA hard drive.
[08:59] <sureshot> cippy i am out in the boonies the people out here are farmers and such and if they had the time they dont even know how to turn one on so i am safe i dont even run security
[08:59] <jokoon> Alexander_NL : I ran instluxNETUbuntu6_06english.exe
[08:59] <sethk> giovanni, if you only have the one device in /sys, then no, only the hard drive is sata
[09:00] <sethk> giovanni, only one device in the scsi subdirectories of /sys, that is
[09:00] <sethk> giovanni, then the cd may be /dev/hda
[09:00] <giovanni> sethk, tried those
[09:00] <sureshot> crippy and i know what you mean by that
[09:00] <MetaMorfoziS> Flannel: why?
[09:00] <eracc> sureshot, what's your address? I feel the need for a drive-bye download. ;-)
[09:00] <Alexander_NL> jokoon: ok and at reboot you've selected to boot grub in stead of windows (normal windows boot menu) yes?
[09:00] <andy> wow this grub installation is confusing
[09:00] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm on dapper, but i'm can't get mplayer working on firefox rc2
[09:00] <crippy> sureshot, The only time i really worry about stuff like that is in a net caffe when im gunna sign into my college/email/paypal acct, Then ill use an ssh tunnel anyway
[09:01] <andy> what option do I use for 2 seperate HDDs?
[09:01] <sureshot> eracc i live in a thrid world country call ohio
[09:01] <jokoon> Alexander_NL : no I choosed to run something like "ubuntu 6.06 installer"
[09:01] <sethk> andy, no option.  you simply specify the location of the kernel (and the initrd, if there is an initrd)
[09:01] <eracc> sureshot, oh you poor thing! ;-)
[09:01] <andy> ok
[09:01] <sureshot> crippy dont save any password or any personal data on your pc you will be fine
[09:01] <jokoon> Alexander_NL : anyway, not the windows one
[09:01] <sureshot> eracc :)
[09:01] <Alexander_NL> jokoon: ok that probably the same and then what happened, it didn show another menu
[09:02] <jokoon> Alexander_NL : lots of things happenned, some menus appeared, things making things on their own
[09:02] <refnumzx> have an adaptem 1420SA controllerwhich ubuntu does not like it does not detect disks during install, ideas?
[09:02] <minerale> I installed vista on my other hard drive and that seems to have overwritten grub's MBR, how can I fix it? (vista is on hda1 and ubuntu on hdb1)
[09:02] <jokoon> Alexander_NL : and then grub comes up
[09:03] <sureshot> cippy what about those bash books are they books or ebooks
[09:03] <peace-keeper> i have the opposite problem, grub killed my NTLDR :)
[09:03] <sureshot> crippy what about those bash books are they books or ebooks... thats what pain meds do to your fingers LOL
[09:03] <crippy> minerale: Either use a live cd and do grub-install or use super grub disk and alter your menu.lst accordingly
[09:03] <giovanni> sethk, i cant really find anything
[09:03] <Alexander_NL> jokoon: right try typing the following after the grub> boot
[09:03] <eracc> sureshot, surprisingly the city here put in a fibre ring and offers high speed ethernet <> fibre connections.
[09:03] <crippy> sureshot, ebooks, i have them on a disk somewhere, i can dig them out later if ya want
[09:04] <sureshot> peace-keeper :0 hey man whats the problem with that LOLOLOL
[09:04] <jokoon> Alexander_NL mh already tried that one
[09:04] <minerale> crippy: will grub-install overwrite my menu.lst ?
[09:04] <frogurt> is anyone familiar with installing wine on x86_64 (6.06)?
[09:04] <Alexander_NL> jokoon: ok hang on
[09:04] <crippy> minerale, Nope shouldnt do,
[09:04] <refnumzx> adaptem 1420SA using current ubuntu server disk, the installer does not detect the disks, ideas?
[09:04] <peace-keeper> sureshot, the problem with that is that my win xp is much more reliable and faster than ubuntu
[09:04] <sureshot> please do send them to prk62@yahoo.com if you dont mind
[09:04] <fr33mind> frogurt: what do you want to know
[09:04] <sethk> giovanni, I think it's safe to assume you have the sata drive, plus the cd drive.  in the BIOS setup, does the cd drive show up as IDE primary master, primary slave, secondary master, or secondary slave?
[09:04] <giovanni> sethk, i believe it was secondary master
[09:04] <sureshot> eracc ware do you live man
[09:05] <frogurt> fr33mind: i am running into problems following a howto online.
[09:05] <crippy> minerale, Boot into the live cd, Mount your ubuntu drive to say /mnt/ubuntu, Chroot to /mnt/ubuntu and do grub-install /dev/hda if that fails (it did for me) use super grub disk. You will have to alter your menu.lst either way though
[09:05] <jokoon> Alexander_NL : btw I downloaded the file instluxNETUbuntu6_06english.exe one the page http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=151507
[09:05] <sureshot> peace-keeper just trying to be funny man sorry put your xp cd in go to repair and type in fixmbr it will erase grub but hey
[09:05] <minerale> crippy: grub-install /dev/hda1 gives me: Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device
[09:05] <fr33mind> frogurt: query me and state your quest :)
[09:05] <fr33mind> (feel free to)
[09:06] <eracc> sureshot, Jackson, TN. A small city between Memphis, TN and Nashville, TN.
[09:06] <peace-keeper> my xp cd is doing strange things, there is no repair mode when i boot it :(
[09:06] <sureshot> eracc i went to college in knoxville for a little while
[09:06] <eracc> sureshot, if you know who Carl Perkins was, this is his home town.
[09:06] <crippy> minerale: grub-install /dev/hda make sure your chrooted to the drive with /boot on it though.
[09:06] <sureshot> eracc a long time ago i watch them build the 1982 worlds fair LOLOLOL
[09:07] <eracc> sureshot, hee hee.
[09:07] <sureshot> eracc sorry i dont know i hope i am not being stupid here LOL
[09:07] <spiwaterwing> Where are the configuration files for network settings?
[09:07] <crippy> spiwaterwing, /etc/network/interfaces
[09:07] <eracc> sureshot, Carl Perkins wrote "Blue Suede Shoes" made famous by Elvis.
[09:07] <labanux> is there anyone who can help me with canon pixma 1600 driver in ubuntu??
[09:07] <refnumzx> im using the adaptec 1420SA with the ubuntu server install cd, the system does not detect the disks, any ideas?
[09:08] <tecta> when trying to start mythtv-backend... Starting MythTV server: mythbackendSession management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[09:08] <tecta> .
[09:08] <sureshot> eracc ok learned something new i will pull that on my best friend who is an elvis person
[09:08] <labanux> i've try to look'in around with google..
[09:08] <labanux> but i still can find the canon pixma 1600 driver
[09:08] <crippy> labanux, Sorry, i wish i could help
[09:09] <judith_> How can I make VLC handle Yahoo video? Totem fails to do the needful!
[09:09] <eracc> sureshot, http://www.rockabillyhall.com/CarlPerkins.html
[09:09] <maxLF> Hey
[09:09] <labanux> the latest driver i could found was pixma 1500
[09:09] <labanux> any idea?
[09:09] <maxLF> I need help installing drivers in Linux for my PowerColor ATI Radeon 9550 GAMEFX
[09:09] <sureshot> refnumzx go to adaptec.com download the drivers for that card .. that is an oddball card so not supported very well
[09:09] <tecta> could anyone help me with mythtv? this thing is annyoying, can't figure it out
[09:10] <refnumzx> how do i get it work work with the installer
[09:10] <frogurt> fr33mind: i opened a dialogue window with you.
[09:10] <refnumzx> once i download drivers
[09:10] <THX-1138> sureshot - It isn't anything great - most of the tips are from http://tld.org bash scripting guide and http://www.pixelbeat.org/cmdline.html
[09:11] <giovanni> sethk, any idea?
[09:11] <sureshot> THX-1138 man i know nothing so any new info is good
[09:11] <maxLF> how do I install ATI drivers in Linux?
[09:11] <sureshot> thanks man
[09:11] <THX-1138> sureshot - sry - pastebin reformatted into junk
[09:11] <RetLaw2> How can I install (and get) latest libstdc++5?
[09:11] <sureshot> refnumzx i think when you run the install you can tell it to load the scsi driver
[09:12] <spiwaterwing> Is there any chance the networking control panel loses my settings when I exit it?
[09:12] <sureshot> THX-1138 i will look at it and see what i can do
[09:12] <sethk> giovanni, did you answer my question about what the cd drives shows up as in the BIOS setup?
[09:12] <spiwaterwing> I can't seem to keep the default gateway selected.
[09:12] <giovanni> sethk, yea, secondary master
[09:12] <elias_> what is the best way to upgrade to edgy?
[09:12] <drcode> hi all
[09:12] <refnumzx> that option exists in the redhat installer but not the ubuntu, i think
[09:12] <crippy> elias_, Wait till the final release?
[09:12] <drcode> any one know about gui to setup nic ?
[09:12] <fr33mind> frogurt:  raw 505: Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[09:12] <sethk> giovanni, then it should be /dev/hdc in linux.  you said I think that /dev/hdc doesn't work?
[09:12] <drcode> I use fluxbox in ubnutu
[09:13] <ubuntu_> hola
[09:13] <giovanni> sethk, yea thats correct
[09:13] <jmitchj> AMD64 sucks in Ubuntu...you can't find drivers anywhere!!
[09:13] <maxLF> How do you install ATI drivers in Ubuntu?
[09:13] <ubuntu_> alguien que me hable en espaol?
[09:13] <sureshot> refnumzx look at the help screen i will tell you someone help me on this cant rememember the ubuntu installer
[09:13] <crippy> !ati
[09:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:13] <ubuntu_> hello
[09:13] <sethk> giovanni, and it also doesn't show up in windows?   that's still happening?
[09:13] <ubuntu_> i have a problem
[09:13] <giovanni> sethk, yea even after popping it out and putting it back in
[09:13] <drcode> any gui for setting nic in fluxbox?
[09:14] <PPAAUULL> Could Someone tell me where the source.list is stored?
[09:14] <sureshot> THX-1138  look fine to me man i will read that a little later thanks
[09:14] <crippy> drcode: im not too sure about fluxbox but you could try network-admin
[09:14] <sethk> giovanni, that is very odd.  It really sounds like a hardware issue, because installing linux doesn't touch windows in any way.
[09:14] <drcode> thanx
[09:14] <frogurt> fr33mind: thanks, its a bit long, but ill put it in here. http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit#head-56206e8bc74083807ffe06ccb471d3f964cb670a -- i am following this howto.
[09:14] <ubuntu_> i want connect ubuntu to windows, how is it?
[09:14] <giovanni> sethk, thats what worries me
[09:14] <PPAAUULL> Could Someone tell me where the source.list is stored?
[09:14] <RetLaw2> How can I install (and get) latest libstdc++5?, Anyone knows ?
[09:14] <maxLF> how do I install ATI drivers in Linux?
[09:14] <ubuntu_> i want connect ubuntu to windows, how is it?
[09:14] <sureshot> giovanni what did you make your windows petition with
[09:15] <ubuntu_> i want connect ubuntu to windows, how is it?
[09:15] <ubuntu_> i want connect ubuntu to windows, how is it?
[09:15] <LjL> !info libstdc++5
[09:15] <fr33mind> okay frogurt
[09:15] <LjL> !repeat
[09:15] <crippy> ubuntu_, What do you mean connect it to windows?
[09:15] <fr33mind> I'll read
[09:15] <ubotu> Package libstdc5 does not exist in any distro I know
[09:15] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:15] <frogurt> LDFLAGS="-L/lib32 -L/usr/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib32" ./configure --> when i get to this point i get an error as follows:
[09:15] <crippy> ubuntu_, and stop flooding
[09:15] <THX-1138> sureshot this has helped with  more than just mounting disks http://ca.geocities.com/ic56@rogers.com/65/diskmounter-latest.txt
[09:15] <drcode> I can't download it
[09:15] <PPAAUULL> Could Someone tell me where the source.list is stored?
[09:15] <drcode> in apt-get network-admin
[09:15] <ubuntu_> ubuntu => windows
[09:15] <LjL> RetLaw2: "sudo apt-get install libstdc++5"
[09:15] <frogurt> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[09:15] <frogzoo> PPAAUULL: /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:15] <giovanni> sureshot, i had windows on this computer to start with, then i used an ubuntu cd to repartition it.  windows is now 64gb and ubuntu has 10gb
[09:15] <drcode> crippy: I did apt-get install network-admin
[09:15] <LjL> !tell RetLaw2 about build-essential
[09:16] <giovanni> sureshot, i even defragged the hd several times to be sure everything was at the beginning
[09:16] <RetLaw2> ljl : thanks !
[09:16] <spiwaterwing> How do I set the default network device without using the GUI?
[09:16] <PPAAUULL> Thanks
[09:16] <refnumzx> sureshot s what is this install scsi driver thing in ubuntu
[09:16] <frogurt> fr33mind: i have tried with sudo and without.
[09:17] <sureshot> giovanni it sounds like the windows pettiton was made with a piece of software that the ubuntu repartition is not compatable do what do the rest of you think
[09:17] <RetLaw2> ljl : build-essential?
[09:17] <ignotus> hello, does the stock ubuntu drapper drake kernel contain support for SquashFS?
[09:17] <frogzoo> spiwaterwing: /etc/network/interfaces
[09:17] <sethk> sureshot, no, his problem is with his cd drive.  has nothing to do with his partitions.
[09:17] <spiwaterwing> frogzoo: What should I add, exactly?
[09:17] <crippy> brb need reboot
[09:17] <geko> im trying to install bitchx/epic, and in the ./configure it says that it can't find 'tgetent()', now I know that involves ncurses, and I have all updated versions of it all.. but it still says it can't find tgetent(), any ideas
[09:17] <sureshot> refnumzx i cant remember the installer i have only done that twice and had no problems i need to ask help from someono for that part
[09:17] <frogurt> fr33mind: sudo: LDFLAGS=-L/lib32 -L/usr/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib32: command not found --> thats what i get with sudo
[09:18] <geko> I know this doesnt just effect epic/bitchx
[09:18] <neo_> isn't squashfs for embedded systems?
[09:18] <LjL> RetLaw2: "sudo apt-get build-essential" will install all of the most important packages that you need if you want to compile something
[09:18] <neo_> why would it be there in a stock desktop kernel
[09:18] <judith_> how are folks here handling Yahoo video?
[09:18] <sureshot> sethk thanks i would have been looking in the wrong place i have had this problem in older distros
[09:18] <frogzoo> ignotus: there's a kernel patch in the repos, so I guess you'd need to kernel recompile
[09:18] <sethk> ignotus, file system support is a function of the kernel.  has nothing to do with the distro.
[09:18] <sethk> sureshot, k
[09:18] <THX-1138> neo_ squashfs is in bootable rool you own distro cds - powerful space saving file sytem.
[09:18] <fr33mind> frogurt
[09:19] <ignotus> sethk: I was referring to the kernel that ships with ubuntu
[09:19] <fr33mind> you are trying to set a variable
[09:19] <Jowi> geko: tgetent is in libncurses5-dev
[09:19] <fr33mind> put "export" infront of it
[09:19] <sureshot> can soneone tell refnumzx how to and ware to load a scsi driver in ubuntu install for me i cant remember
[09:19] <sethk> ignotus, you mean without rebuilding it?  I have no idea, check the configuration file in /boot
[09:19] <geko> Jowi: is libncurses5-dev on the install disc?
[09:19] <sureshot> sethk did not wont to give bad info
[09:19] <ignotus> sethk: thanks I will check (I am not at the machine atm)
[09:19] <Jowi> !info libncurses5-dev
[09:19] <ubotu> libncurses5-dev: Developer's libraries and docs for ncurses. In component main, is optional. Version 5.5-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1276 kB, installed size 5904 kB
[09:20] <Jowi> geko: looks like it
[09:20] <EVRAMP> if i have "playback: 1 , capture: 1" then i can't hear the TeamSpeak and some game sound together at one time? even if XMMS plays a song and Totem plays a video and sound is mixed...
[09:20] <freemind> frogurt: please edit the WIKI, that other users get it the right way :-)
[09:20] <frogurt> freemind: i get this ... bash: export: `./configure': not a valid identifier
[09:20] <sureshot> THX-1138 thanks again man put both on desktop for easy access
[09:20] <freemind> frogurt: use the thing between your ears
[09:20] <freemind> j/k
[09:20] <sethk> frogurt, you are seriously confused
[09:20] <frogurt> haha
[09:21] <freemind> you need to cut the line, configure is a new line
[09:21] <RetLaw2> LjL: libdc++5 depends upon gcc-3.3-base, also sudo apt-get ?
[09:21] <Jowi> geko: bitchx itself is in the universe repo otherwise
[09:21] <markeib> hello, when my webcam is connected as i boot my pc i have no sound because the mic of the webcam is recognised as a "soundcard" i think. is there a way to have the webcam connected while booting and still have sound?
[09:21] <freemind> or you just put a ";" after the export
[09:21] <frogurt> i put export in the beginning ... was it supposed to go somewhere else??
[09:21] <sureshot> THX-1138 i would love to be able to help have did ms helpdesk a lot in my time but have to learn a bunch more
[09:21] <LjL> RetLaw2: uh, dependencies should be resolved automatically...
[09:21] <lothar> Can anybody help me, i install the nvidia-treiber for two grafic-cards. All is OK when i start with startx, but x hangs when i reboot. And i have to reinstall the driver. Whats the problem?
[09:21] <Llewxam> ok this is getting on my nerves.... i can't get ndiswrapper to work right. i've followed all of the documents plus everything i did on breezy and i can't get this to work at all.
[09:21] <LjL> RetLaw2: i.e. when you apt-get libstdc++5, it should *automatically* also download whatever else it needs. doesn't it do that?
[09:21] <engie> Hiya. I'm trying to connect to my phone with bluetooth but I get call_passkey_agent errors when trying to authenticate. Any idea how I can get it to use the installed bluez-pin ?
[09:22] <freemind> frogurt: the export is only for the variable set. configure is next command, use simicolon to split them
[09:22] <geko> Jowi: 'sudo apt-get install ncurses5-dev' says that the package can't be found
[09:22] <freemind> geko: try apt-cache search ncurses5
[09:22] <RetLaw2> LjL: no it didn't
[09:22] <Jowi> geko: sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev
[09:22] <frogurt> .freemind: thanks, i am pretty new and do not understand all of the syntax correctly yet/
[09:22] <LjL> RetLaw2: can you pastebin the output from apt-get please?
[09:22] <freemind> Jowi: he should know the which helps him to find pakets :)
[09:22] <huangrui> How to set "no XV" mode for Totem, the image in videos is to bright ?
[09:22] <freemind> +way
[09:22] <geko> Jowi: when I did what freemind told me to do, it only listed libncurses5
[09:23] <LjL> RetLaw2: also -- are you running edgy? have you run a "sudo apt-get update" recently?
[09:23] <freemind> frogurt: aboslutely no problem buddy, u r welcome
[09:23] <Draconicus> What are the names of these two programs?: The one that autodetects a camera and the one that interfaces with it. In other words, what do I need to install to make Xubuntu have the same stuff Ubuntu has for digital cameras?
[09:23] <RetLaw2> pastebin = pasting over here ?
[09:23] <LjL> !pastebin
[09:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:23] <freemind> geko: thats the command for finding paket names :)
[09:23] <wang_kim_dong> I just discovered nautilus-file-management-properties in the terminal.  It is not in System->Preferences
[09:23] <wang_kim_dong> Why is it not in system->preferences?
[09:23] <spiwaterwing> What should I add to /etc/network/interfaces to get it to use eth0 as the default device?
[09:23] <giovanni> sethk so theres pretty much nothing i can do?
[09:23] <daviey> Hi Guys, how can i find out from the terminal what processor i have and how much ram?
[09:23] <ciphernemo> How do I manually specify variables like $QTDIR and qmake?
[09:23] <freemind> spiwaterwing: what do you mean by "default"?
[09:23] <LjL> ciphernemo: "export VARIABLENAME=value"
[09:24] <bbrazil> daviey: cat /proc/cpuinfo; cat /memingo
[09:24] <ciphernemo> LjL: thx
[09:24] <bbrazil> daviey: *meminfo
[09:24] <Jowi> freemind: right. geko, if you wonder how to find which file belongs to which package you type "dpkg -S filename" and it will list the relevant package for you.
[09:24] <sethk> giovanni, I think it's a hardware problem.  I don't know of any magic for it.
[09:24] <daviey> bbrzil: thanks
[09:24] <giovanni> sethk, all right.  thanks for your time.
[09:24] <THX-1138> ignotus - /search VAMP
[09:24] <THX-1138> oops -
[09:24] <spiwaterwing> freemind: I mean I only have one network card, but the Networking control panel does not seem to be able to keep eth0 as default after I close it.  So I'm trying to edit /etc/network/interfaces
[09:24] <Jowi> geko: it's the "...-dev" package you need.
[09:24] <sureshot> daviey did you try applications > system tools > sysinfo
[09:25] <geko> Jowi: ok, so if libncurses5-dev isn't listed in my package list, where do I get it?
[09:25] <giovanni> exit
[09:25] <RetLaw2> LjL: pasted
[09:25] <bramberg> I have intalled Ubuntu on a Soney Laptop with NIVIDIA GeForce FX G0 5600 video card. It works fine on my laptop display (1600x1200), but when I attach en external LCD sceen on the vga output it works until x starts, the the display turns int veritacl stipes. Anybody know how to configure?
[09:25] <Teri2007> how should my permissions be set up for my /var/www account?
[09:25] <andy> alright, I have grub installed, but i have a problem: My windows disk doesnt show up in the boot list.  How can I add the ability to boot into my windows drive for grub
[09:25] <LjL> RetLaw2: you need to give me the URL
[09:25] <Teri2007> oops, I meant folder
[09:25] <THX-1138> !twinview
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:26] <Teri2007> my /var/www folder, what should be permission be on this?
[09:26] <Jowi> geko: why not take the easy way out. install bitchx or epic4 instead of compiling it.
[09:26] <THX-1138> !amnesiac is ubotu
[09:26] <RetLaw2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25920/
[09:26] <Jowi> geko: are you running dapper?
[09:26] <pike_> andy: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst there is a sample entry for xp in there commented out only thing you should have to change is the partition that xp is actually on
[09:26] <sureshot> THX-1138 is that not xainaroma or something like that
[09:26] <LjL> RetLaw2: ok, that means there are problems with the package repository. are you running Edgy?
[09:27] <minerale> ugh, after running updates i now have a slew of options on which ubuntu to boot, does it matter if I boot the 686 or 486 kernel?
[09:27] <andy> xp is on a different hard drive
[09:27] <geko> Jowi: yep
[09:27] <THX-1138> sureshot yes, xinerama will work but twinview is nvidia specific
[09:27] <RetLaw2> LjL: no clue, just installed Ubuntu-server 6.06 without anything else
[09:27] <lothar> Can anybody help me, i install the nvidia-treiber for two grafic-cards. All is OK when i start with startx, but x hangs when i reboot. And i have to reinstall the driver. Whats the problem?
[09:27] <ciphernemo> LjL: eport isn't a recognized command... can you elaborate?
[09:27] <pike_> andy: just add the entry for it at the end of the file after ubuntu. thats fine just sudo fdisk -l to find the partition it is on
[09:27] <LjL> RetLaw2: ok. 6.06 is Dapper. Edgy is 6.10. they're the codenames for ubuntu versions
[09:27] <sureshot> THX-1138 did not know that see i have a lot to learn i will try to remember that
[09:27] <spunk_> When I install Ubuntu, does the installer copy drivers that are specific to my hardware, or do I get a standard setup of files? The reason I ask is whether I can just move a HDD to another computer...
[09:27] <LjL> ciphernemo: eXport, not eport
[09:27] <ciphernemo> LjL: ah, thx
[09:28] <geko> Jowi: I'm using a precompiled version of bx right now, but bitchx/epic is not the only thing that will be effected by this. as I looked my problem up on the internet.. not being able to detect tgetent() causes a lot of problems with ./configure scripts, and compiling
[09:28] <Teri2007> are the /var/www websites supposed to be "owned" by root?
[09:28] <RetLaw2> LjL: wasn't aware there is already 6.10
[09:28] <LjL> RetLaw2: try running "sudo apt-get update", and then try again installing libstdc++5
[09:28] <THX-1138> sureshot - looking for a real challenge configure 3 monitors. - seen it just can't get it done. - lol
[09:28] <ciphernemo> LjL: nope, same
[09:28] <LjL> RetLaw2: indeed, there isn't. it's still beta and unstable. but still some people do run it
[09:28] <LjL> ciphernemo: are you using the Bash shell?
[09:28] <geko> Jowi: libncurses5-dev_5.4-4_i386.deb would that work for me?
[09:28] <ciphernemo> LjL: default shell from dapper install
[09:29] <Teri2007> can anyone here help me?
[09:29] <Teri2007> are the /var/www websites supposed to be "owned" by root?
[09:29] <LjL> ciphernemo: well, then typing (without the quote marks)   "export BLAH=foobar" should work. if you later type "echo $BLAH", you will see "foobar" printed.
[09:29] <sureshot> THX-1138 never seen a pc with 3 i have one with 2 but if you added a third section like xainarama would it not work i guess you tried that lol
[09:29] <andy> pike: there is no XP sample
[09:29] <Jowi> geko: no idea. where did you get it from? current version is libncurses5-dev_5.5-1ubuntu3_i386.deb
[09:30] <THX-1138> sureshot - bios problems. - might be able to patch the kernel. - haven't seen the patch.
[09:30] <geko> Jowi: and where can I grab that from? heh cuz when I open the one I had it says, Error: dependancy is not satisfiable: libncurses5
[09:30] <LjL> RetLaw2: if it still doesnt' install, do "sudo apt-get -f install" and see
[09:30] <sureshot> THX-1138 never thought of that what mboard are you using by the way
[09:30] <geko> Jowi: and won't allow me to install it
[09:30] <tecta> anyone use mythtv in here?
[09:30] <RetLaw2> LjL: update seems being ok, but libstdc++5 gives same error
[09:31] <ciphernemo> LjL: how can I determine which shell I'm using?
[09:31] <LjL> ciphernemo: "echo $SHELL"
[09:31] <RetLaw2> LjL: hadn't seem your last message
[09:31] <spunk_> When I install Ubuntu, does the installer copy drivers that are specific to my hardware, or do I get a standard setup of files? The reason I ask is whether I can just move the HDD to another computer...
[09:31] <Jowi> geko: so you have a messed up sources.list probably
[09:31] <Jowi> !repos
[09:31] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:31] <ciphernemo> LjL: Yes, I'm using bash, but export isn't a command recognize
[09:32] <THX-1138> sureshot asus erm misplaced the info. lshw is obtuse on the matter.
[09:32] <pike_> anyone tell me howto start the dbus session service im using xinit not gdm and getting error it didnt start. i tried dbus-launch --auto-syntax in xinitrc but still getting erro
[09:32] <LjL> ciphernemo: that's *extremely* weird. are you sure you're typing it all correctly? note that bash is case sensitive, so it's important that "export" is typed *all lowercase*.
[09:33] <andy> my primary hardrive is (HD0, 0) what would be my second hard drive?
[09:33] <Renan_s2> andy, (hd1,0)
[09:33] <SkramX> <-- on 5.04 live cd, waiting for 6.06 to download
[09:33] <andy> ok
[09:33] <ciphernemo> LjL:  ciphernemo@tivoid:/$ sudo eXport $QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt3
[09:33] <ciphernemo> sudo: eXport: command not found
[09:33] <sureshot> THX-1138 that is a good board so that is not the problem guess you need someone to creat a new driver LOLOL or patch the kernel for 2 monitor cards
[09:33] <RetLaw2> LjL: The sudo apt-get -f install did it
[09:33] <ciphernemo> LjL:  oops.. export
[09:33] <ciphernemo> LjL: I've tried both... export doesn't work
[09:33] <EVRAMP> what sound card would be best compatible with ubuntu?
[09:33] <andy> where is the kernel located on a WinXP disk?
[09:33] <LjL> ciphernemo: err, no... it's "export", all lowercase. i typed an uppercase "X" just to point it out since you were typing "eport"
[09:34] <ciphernemo> LjL: I already mentioned that
[09:34] <LjL> ciphernemo: type "help"
[09:34] <THX-1138> sureshot - Free compiler now all i need is a phd in computer science.(shrug)
[09:34] <ciphernemo> LjL: I was iirc typoing... I used export
[09:34] <LjL> ciphernemo: do you see two columns of help text when you type "help"?
[09:34] <ciphernemo> LjL: then I got confused because you said eXport... but I've been using export
[09:34] <mlowe> THX-1138, want 1 cheap ?
[09:34] <AlinuxOS> hello, how is the name of SuSE's new menu ?
[09:34] <AlinuxOS> it's a gnome package I think.
[09:35] <ciphernemo> LjL: yes... I've been using export... let's get past the typo here please
[09:35] <ciphernemo> LjL: yes, I see the two columns
[09:35] <sureshot> THX-22
[09:35] <THX-1138> mlowe - It might be handy. - glad you are here to help. "Windows users Linux Community"
[09:35] <LjL> ciphernemo: i'd love to, except that if you *are* in bash, and apparently you are, export *must* work. i can't really see a reason why it wouldn't.
[09:35] <LjL> ciphernemo: ok, in the first of those two columns, do you see a line mentioning "export"?
[09:35] <ciphernemo> LjL: well, it doesn't
[09:35] <dmhouse> Which package should I install in order to be able to play M4A media files?
[09:36] <ciphernemo> LjL: export [-nf]  [name[=value]  ...]  or false
[09:36] <ciphernemo> LjL: it's there
[09:36] <dmhouse> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Media/Codecs indicates they're playable, but doesn't give me a package name.
[09:36] <sureshot> THX-1138 opps i have only a very small use of the c language i wish i could learn more about it
[09:36] <huangrui> how to manage totem properties, so that I can change it to XV ?
[09:36] <mlowe> dmhouse, wikki / restricted formats
[09:36] <THX-1138> dmhouse - a peek at the mencoder forums will give clues. M4A?
[09:36] <LjL> ciphernemo: oh wait, i hadn't noticed something.
[09:36] <wang_kim_dong> sureshot: just look it up in k&r
[09:36] <LjL> ciphernemo: you're using "sudo" in front of export?! don't!
[09:36] <lothar> Can anybody help me, i install the nvidia-treiber for two grafic-cards. All is OK when i start with startx, but x hangs when i reboot. And i have to reinstall the driver. Whats the problem?
[09:36] <ciphernemo> LjL: I've tried it both ways
[09:37] <wO-SiOu> Hi , where is located the usr/src/linux in ubuntu ?
[09:37] <wang_kim_dong> k&r wrote very lucidly about their c programming language
[09:37] <sureshot> THX-1138 k&r what is that my friend
[09:37] <ciphernemo> LjL: ah, I just tried it again and had the eXport in there when I tried without sudo... now it's working, thx!
[09:37] <mister_roboto> "export" is built in to bash. if you're getting an error, you have a syntax problem... probably forgetting the "="
[09:37] <spunk_> When I install Ubuntu, does the installer copy drivers that are specific to my hardware, or do I get a standard setup of files? The reason I ask is whether I can just move the HDD to another computer...
[09:38] <Slavedriver> Hello
[09:38] <ciphernemo> LjL: and I can't use the "$" sign... which I posted in my attempt here... that apparently is tacked on by default
[09:38] <ciphernemo> LjL: thx for the help
[09:38] <Slavedriver> I have a very little problem requiring urgent assistance.
[09:38] <LjL> ciphernemo: you must not use "$" in the export command, only when you actually *recall* the variable
[09:38] <THX-1138> !canonical
[09:38] <ubotu> Canonical Ltd. is committed to the development, distribution and promotion of open source software products, and to providing tools and support to the open source community. It is the driving force behind the Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu Operating Systems. Canonical's website is at http://www.canonical.com/
[09:38] <Slavedriver> For some unknown reason I am unable to access any HDD partition when I'm booted from LiveCD
[09:39] <linuxboy> does Edgy+1 have a name yet?
[09:39] <Jowi> spunk_: you will get all the drivers copied to the harddisk, but the install itself will be tuned to the hardware you have at install time. so moving a hdd from one computer to another is not likely to work very well (it *can* but most likely not)
[09:39] <tecta> could anyone please help me with mythtv?
[09:40] <spunk_> Jowi: Ok. thanks!
[09:40] <sureshot> THX-1138 just saved it to my ubuntu book marks hay if you know anyone else that share there crib sheet please let me know
[09:40] <THX-1138> Slavedriver - the way you said that i thought you were the boss with a broken system and dozens of emplyees. - mount isn't loaded fromm the bootable cd - security. (liability?)
[09:40] <RetLaw2> LjL : evrything ok now ! thank you for your help !!
[09:40] <THX-1138> sureshot - ask cafuego or Seveas. - They have been very helpful.
[09:41] <LjL> RetLaw2: you're welcome
[09:41] <sureshot> thanks
[09:41] <Slavedriver> THX-1138: Heh. I wasn't trying to be pushy or anything.
[09:41] <Jowi> spunk_: you will probably be able to boot from it (with a bit of luck) but some configuration must be done before networking and xorg will work. No guarantees though
[09:41] <Slavedriver> It's just that that the installation of NVidia drivers killed my X11
[09:42] <Slavedriver> And now I need a working xconf which I hope to get from LiveCD
[09:42] <Slavedriver> *xorg.conf
[09:42] <highneko> Konversations window on my panel is blinking. How can I stop this?
[09:42] <spunk_> Jowi: ok, i recon the networking part is about dhcp vs. static and such, whereas xorg is about gfx card drivers...?
[09:43] <Sundog> hello
[09:43] <ed_> ning
[09:43] <LjL> highneko: you mean the *icon*? (since you said on the *panel*)
[09:43] <highneko> Yea, sure.
[09:43] <THX-1138> Slavedriver - the cd is mounted you might be able to transfer it to a second cd drive.
[09:43] <LjL> highneko: it blinks when someone mentions your nickname, so that you know that you're being called
[09:43] <Sundog> Does any one know of any distro compiled for 686 instead of 386
[09:43] <czer323> Is dmraid SUPPOSED to put a strain on the cpu?  I'm getting a lot of iowait cycles.
[09:43] <highneko> LjL: It won't stop blinking. Please help!
[09:43] <huangrui> how to have libX11.so ?
[09:43] <Sundog> Does any one know of any distro compiled for 686 instead of 386
[09:43] <Jowi> spunk_: that's about what I was thinking. can be networking drivers as well.
[09:44] <highneko> LjL: It blinks when I start it, before I get in #ubuntu. ;(
[09:44] <Sundog> Does any one know of any distro compiled for 686 instead of 386
[09:44] <LjL> highneko: well, try Settings / Configure Konversation / Behavior / General, and disable new message notification on the system tray
[09:44] <Jowi> spunk_: can also be a problem if you move the hdd to another computer that already has got another hdd in it.
[09:44] <spunk_> Jowi: true. Otherwise, all drivers should be present, right?
[09:44] <ed_> Sundog, arch linux
[09:44] <Sundog> TNX
[09:44] <ed_> Sundog, archlinux
[09:44] <Conspiracy> Hi, can anyone help me to get fglrx to workd for ATI card?
[09:44] <osama> gentoo?
[09:44] <THX-1138> !ati
[09:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:45] <Jowi> spunk_: they are included in the kernel, or loaded as modules. yes.
[09:45] <Conspiracy> I've tryied that, that doesnt help
[09:45] <ed_> i am experiencing a mount issue using 2.6.18, i have used the .config from 2.6.15 that comes with dapper. mount reports that my xfs filesystem is already mounted or busy. there is nothing wrong with the filesystem as it mounts just fine using the kernel that comes with dapper. the filesystem is not mounted, it's not listed in /etc/mtab or /proc/mounts
[09:45] <highneko> LjL: Where can I find settings? i'm using gnome.
[09:45] <spunk_> Jowi, ok. Ill give it a shot. Thanks for the help!
[09:45] <Jowi> np spunk_
[09:45] <Dev05> Any ideas on why apt-index-watcher is torturing my CPU since the last update I ran?
[09:45] <sureshot> crippy you still on
[09:45] <LjL> highneko: it's a menu of the Konversation window. next to Bookmarks and Window
[09:45] <highneko> LjL: Nvm, found it!
[09:46] <Slavedriver> THX-1138: Indeed. But after running nvidia-glx-enable it modified my config file and after that X11 won't start because for some very wicked reason my video card is listed as ATI Radeon there. And yeah, nvidia-glx-enable did that
[09:46] <Slavedriver> I meant nvidia-glx-cofig enable
[09:47] <djuuss> is there any apt-able limewire/bearshare client? For sharing public-domain free music per obvious?
[09:47] <LjL> !limeware
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about limeware - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:47] <rkd> !limewire
[09:47] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[09:47] <LjL> !into frostwire
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about into frostwire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:47] <LjL> oh, i can't get one right.
[09:47] <rkd> !FrostWire
[09:48] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[09:48] <rkd> haha
[09:48] <Dev05> djuuss, There's aMule too...
[09:48] <flaringo> Hello
[09:48] <djuuss> ok ill get all that stuff downloaded :D thanks guys
[09:48] <aboutblank> oh please help me- i booted to ubuntu livecd, and opened gparted.. i then resized my primary ext3 partition, but something went wrong. the error message was cryptic, but i restarted my computer and now it hangs on "mounting partition". do i have any hope?
[09:48] <AVS588> i have an airforce wireless car i can connect to the internet normaly but when i set up wep on my router it wont let me put the wep key on it
[09:49] <AVS588> what can i do
[09:49] <LjL> aboutblank: boot from a live cd and see if you can mount the partiton. that is, if you have data on it that you need
[09:49] <AVS588> card*
[09:49] <flaringo> I was just wondering; are the nvidia drivers that I get from apt-get the newest?
[09:49] <Dev05> AVS588, May be the driver you're using doesn't support WEP encryption.
[09:50] <SkramX> does ubuntu livecd come with an app to burn CDs?
[09:50] <boink> flaringo: probably not
[09:50] <SkramX> what is it?
[09:50] <boink> the latest drivers would be on the nvidia site
[09:50] <AVS588> Dev05: how can i check that
[09:50] <Dev05> !tell Dev05 about airforce wireless
[09:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about airforce wireless - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:50] <LjL> aboutblank: failing that, you might want to try "testdisk"
[09:50] <LjL> !info testdisk
[09:50] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.1-1 (dapper), package size 386 kB, installed size 1124 kB
[09:50] <flaringo> would there then be a big difference performance-wise on the drivers from the site and apt-get?
[09:51] <boink> don't think so, though, it depends on what you're doing
[09:51] <aboutblank> LjL: except testdisk isn't on the 6.06 i386 livecd
[09:51] <Slavedriver> So any help on mounting ext3 partition from LiveCD ?
[09:51] <LjL> aboutblank: well, you can install it, if you can connect to the internet from the live cd
[09:51] <Slavedriver> I managed to mount NTFS ones just fine but I need ext3 one
[09:51] <uncannybuzzard> hey, does anyone know anything about garnome?
[09:52] <aboutblank> install it where?? i have no partitions now...
[09:52] <luthor> I've an old crappy box that cannot boot from CD. Are there any boot floppies that I can use to install Ubuntu?
[09:52] <LjL> aboutblank: it will install, don't worry
[09:52] <LjL> aboutblank: the live CD has provision for "installing" programs -- of course, they won't survive a reboot, but still
[09:52] <highneko> LjL: It still blinks!
[09:53] <uncannybuzzard> has anyone installed an updated gnome with garnome?
[09:53] <LjL> highneko: then i don't know. are you using Gnome or KDE?
[09:53] <flaringo> well, I've just started playing WoW again, and this time I tried Crossover. The problem is that the performance is weak. Jumps down to about 10-15 fps if I'm looking out over big areas. I've got 1GB ram, a Geforce 7800GT graphic card and a 3500+ AMD64 processor
[09:53] <highneko> LjL: Gnome, with beryl
[09:53] <tabm0de> how do i change keyboard layout? and how do i change so apache2 show nordic letters as standard
[09:54] <flaringo> so therefore I was wondering if the drivers from the nvidia site would better the performance
[09:54] <LjL> highneko: ah, well, then that might be the culprit (thinking mostly about beryl). it's very experimental software, and may make your programs do very strange things at times...
[09:55] <Dev05_> flaringo, I've tried both and the performance is the same.
[09:55] <vit_> hy all!!!
[09:55] <vit_> :)
[09:55] <Snake[Away] > Does ubuntu have a specfic channel for package building? I'm trying to learn how and I have some questions
[09:55] <flaringo> so you've got the same problem?
[09:55] <gnomefreak> Snake[Away] : #ubuntu-motu
[09:55] <Snake[Away] > gnomefreak: thanks :)
[09:55] <Felos> What packages do I need to insall in addition to Fluxbox or IceWM in order to have a minimal GUI when starting with Ubuntu Server Edition?
[09:56] <tecta> 2006-10-07 15:54:39.746 WARNING: something is currently using: /dev/dsp, retrying.
[09:56] <tecta> in mythtv ^^
[09:56] <vit_> vorbeste cineva romaneste???!!!
[09:56] <aboutblank> i can mount my partition from the livecd, so why can't i mount it when i boot from the HDD? it just hangs...
[09:56] <AVS588>  i have an airforce wireless car i can connect to the internet normaly but when i set up wep on my router it wont let me put the wep key on it what can i do?
[09:56] <Dev05_> flaringo, With XGL it goes up to 160FPS with a GeForce 3.
[09:56] <boink> !tell vit_ about ro
[09:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:56] <boink> !ro
[09:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:57] <pike_> Felos: i usually get xserver-xorg and xinit
[09:57] <Dev05_> flaringo, Are you sure your driver is enabled?
[09:57] <boink> dang, guess there isn't a romanian channel yet
[09:57] <vit_> ro it's frm romania !!!
[09:57] <flaringo> that has to be with all the graphics on low, right? At least the view distance -- 'casuse that is making all the problems here
[09:57] <Felos> pike_: is that all I need?
[09:57] <flaringo> yes, I am sure of it
[09:57] <djuuss> hey about Xorg
[09:57] <vit_> and i couldn't find  ...
[09:57] <boink> we only speak english here
[09:57] <vit_> any romanian
[09:57] <djuuss> Can you edit xorg.conf to change gamma/brightness/contrast ?
[09:57] <pike_> Felos: im pretty sure i usually then just edit my .xinitrc file in home dir adding an entry like "exec fluxbox" and then run xinit to launch
[09:58] <Felos> pike_: So I'd just type "xinit start" after editing .xintrc?
[09:58] <pike_> Felos: just xinit
[09:59] <sethk> Felos, just xinit
[09:59] <pike_> Felos: as user not sudo
[09:59] <aboutblank> !info testdisk
[09:59] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.1-1 (dapper), package size 386 kB, installed size 1124 kB
[09:59] <Dev05_> flaringo, Are you running on Xgl?
[09:59] <Felos> pike_: also, is there a way to toggle back to bash without closing prompt? I only have CLI setup atm.
[09:59] <flaringo> I was, but no 3D games would run on it
[09:59] <flaringo> and those who did, did not run well
[10:00] <sethk> Felos, you have several virtual consoles:  control-alt-f1, control-alt-f2, etc.
[10:00] <LjL> aboutblank: ah, if you aren't finding it in apt-cache, i guess you'll need to enable universe in the live cd. not sure how that's done... i mean, i'm not sure you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list on the live cd -- but you probably can
[10:00] <mart_> hi, has anyone had any luck installing aptana on 64bit ubuntu?
[10:00] <Dev05_> flaringo, Are you just not runinng Compiz or you've totatally switched back to the normal X?
[10:00] <Felos> sethk: thanks, very handy.
[10:00] <flaringo> totally switchet to normal X from beryl
[10:01] <flaringo> switched*
[10:01] <Dev05_> flaringo, :|
[10:01] <luthor> I've an old crappy box that cannot boot from CD. Are there any boot floppies that I can use to install Ubuntu?
[10:01] <flaringo> it was either fancy eye candy or gaming xD
[10:01] <uncannybuzzard> anyone know how to run gnome 2.16 after building it with garnome?
[10:02] <flaringo> I'd prefer both -- too bad they didn't fit well together
[10:02] <djuuss> luthor, you might wanna go with Xubuntu, but i dont know about the floppies
[10:02] <tannerld> I installed ubuntu on my laptop and I don't have any icons on the desktop like I did when I installed ubuntu on my main computer - how can I get the typical trash, home, computer icons there?
[10:02] <Felos> luthor: What are the system specs, do you know?
[10:03] <pike_> luthor: you should be able to use a debian floppy to install and then dist-upgrade to ubuntu after the install might want to google though
[10:03] <luthor> djuuss, yes, I see your point.
[10:04] <Dev05> flaringo, Well, I have no idea. You can check out the new nVidia Beta drivers if you'd like to experiment (and probable have some issues). Just if you know what you'll be doing, otherwise, well, wait until its release.
[10:04] <luthor> Felos: Not exactly. PII-something. Old BIOS/mb that does not support CD-boot...
[10:04] <luthor> pike_: ok!
[10:04] <dmhouse> Hi there. Anyone had any success getting M4P files to play? Wiki/Restricted Formats says ' Songs purchased from the iTunes music store (.m4p) are encrypted and will not play using gstreamer0.8-faad. You will have to decrypt them first.' How do I do that?
[10:04] <mart_> can anyone tell me how to make ubuntu open certain apps when you double click files
[10:04] <mart_> like, opening a movie file into mplayer
[10:05] <flaringo> Dev05, well, I'd rather not start to experiment with those kind of things anymore. I've had enough of re-installing already xD
[10:05] <Felos> pike: will .xinitrc even exist in my home directory afte installing xinit, or will it be a new file?
[10:05] <pike_> Felos: probably not
[10:05] <Felos> pike_: So, new file then?
[10:05] <tabm0de> is there no way to change the keyboard lay out after installtion?!?!
[10:05] <Dev05> flaringo, Hehe.
[10:05] <Felos> ls
[10:05] <Felos> oops...
[10:06] <Darryl> Can anyone here help an Ubuntu newb set up Wine? Please? :D
[10:06] <Admiral_Chicago> !wine > Darryl
[10:06] <tecta> how do i make mythtv use alsa???
[10:06] <tannerld> I installed ubuntu on my laptop and I don't have any icons on the desktop like I did when I installed ubuntu on my main computer - how can I get the typical trash, home, computer icons there?
[10:06] <flaringo> what exactly is mythtv? what does it do?
[10:06] <pike_> Felos: yeah they always have like #!/bin/sh as the first line but its not an executable so im not sure why..
[10:07] <EmxBA> hi
[10:07] <Darryl> I'm still having trouble after reading that, I wouldn't come without reading the help files ;)
[10:07] <fluxinator> jebem sve srbin!
[10:07] <EmxBA> can someone be so good and copy me /var/lib/dpkg/status ?
[10:07] <uncannybuzzard> tabm0de, did you try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[10:07] <Admiral_Chicago> Darryl: did you add the repo?
[10:07] <EmxBA> fluxinator: stop
[10:07] <fluxinator> lol
[10:08] <Felos> pike_: So I have to put that there at the beginning of the file or no?
[10:08] <EmxBA> don't laugh at me, i understood *all of that*, despite i'm not bosnian
[10:08] <pike_> Felos: shouldnt no
[10:08] <Darryl> Yeah I think I did...Remind me how one would go about doing that? ;)
[10:08] <fluxinator> thats fantastic
[10:08] <pike_> Felos: well lemme check
[10:08] <Admiral_Chicago> Darryl: did you edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:09] <EmxBA> can someone copy me /var/lib/dpkg/status*
[10:09] <EmxBA> *?
[10:09] <pike_> Felos: not necessary appearantly
[10:09] <Darryl> I didn't read that I was supposed to :S
[10:09] <Felos> pike_: Ok, well, there's no file there. I tried creating a new one, and I get an error stating "could not open default font 'fixd'"
[10:09] <Felos> pike_: After running xinit, that is.
[10:10] <pike_> Felos: the file is in /home/username/.xinitrc ?
[10:10] <aboutblank> ugh! When booting, my ubuntu box freezes... last line printed is "Mounting root file system... OK". I just resized my ext3 partition, does that mean there is something wrong with the partition or not??
[10:10] <Felos> pike_, yep.
[10:10] <Darryl> Hmm...How am I supposed to edit it?
[10:11] <harrism> I am installing Jedi outcast in wine and I have two disks. After the first disc installs it tells me to insert disc 2 and continue. When I try to remove the cd it tells me it's in use and fails. I have tried to manually unmount it but I get the same errors. Any way I can do this? I really want to install this game :/
[10:11] <Evaso2> Hi i tried the last knot edgy and daily snapshot ATI X800GTO and doesn't work framebuffer and Xorg. Is there some know issue?
[10:11] <Felos> pike_, would running this IRC client while trying to load X affect it?
[10:11] <Samuli^> harrism, have you tried making an iso of the cd and mounting that?
[10:11] <gean> hi all!
[10:12] <harrism> I have an iso, how can I mount it?
[10:12] <Admiral_Chicago> Darryl: PM me so I can give you better instructions
[10:12] <sureshot> harrism use cedega it does not have the problem and i think that is a listed working game
[10:12] <Felos> pike_: I'll return shortly, going to try closing the IRC client.
[10:12] <Mehercle> hi
[10:12] <Samuli^> the same way you mount a cd. mount -t -o loop iso9660 or something like that, I really don't remember exactly :)
[10:13] <Darryl> Ok, just need to register
[10:13] <Samuli^> man mount?
[10:13] <harrism> ok thanks, I will try it
[10:13] <highneko> Is it possible to tile all windows?
[10:13] <Mehercle> I can't create partitions on a usb device. It tells me that the  sector size is wrong. What can i do with  this?
[10:13] <Felos> pike_: Same result. hrm.
[10:13] <SkramX> i cant take the cd out of my machine when running livecd, can I
[10:14] <SkramX> or can I, is everything built into ram?
[10:14] <pike_> Felos: which wm are you trying to run fluxbox? of ice?
[10:14] <str47> sup
[10:14] <aboutblank> what is the equivalent of scandisk for linux?
[10:14] <str47> unsure
[10:14] <LjL> aboutblank: fsck
[10:14] <Felos> pike_: Fluxbox.
[10:15] <uncannybuzzard> anyone know anything about updating gnome?
[10:15] <Mehercle> I can't create partitions on a usb device. It tells me that the  sector size is wrong. What can i do with  this?
[10:15] <Mehercle> i can't use it now.
[10:15] <drezha> hi all. I need help monitoring a folder over samba.  The path I'm using won't work
[10:15] <aboutblank> when booting, my ubuntu box freezes... last line printed is "Mounting root file system... OK". I just resized my ext3 partition, does that mean there is something wrong with the partition or not??
[10:15] <silox> how do i setup a command to autostart in gnome?
[10:15] <LjL> uncannybuzzard: upgrading a big package like Gnome manually is generally frowned upon. it's only bound to create problems. so i don't think you'll find many users who have dared try such a feat
[10:15] <drezha> I'm using smb://192.168.1.7/Folding as the path but it's not recognised
[10:16] <pike_> Felos: if you type which startfluxbox do you have something in /usr/bin ?
[10:16] <ompaul> silox, system preferences sessions
[10:16] <Mehercle> I can't create partitions on a usb device. It tells me that the  sector size is wrong. What can i do with  this?
[10:16] <Mehercle> i can't use it now.
[10:16] <silox> ompaul thanks ! =)
[10:16] <silent_scream> how can i opes .thm files?
[10:16] <flaringo> Uh, is there any other cool window managers like Beryl or Compiz? I like all that eye candy :(
[10:16] <Felos> pike_: Yep, I do.
[10:16] <pike_> Felos: it should work anyway but try exec startfluxbox in xinitrc
[10:17] <pike_> instead
[10:17] <vit_> -----------------------------------          M    O   L   D   O   V   A        ---------------------------------------
[10:17] <jvai> whooa
[10:17] <Felos> pike_: Still no luck.
[10:18] <Normal> Could someone tell me how to start a text only session(I'm trying to install Nvidia beta drivers)?
[10:18] <d00by> for some reason when I type "wlanconfig ath0 destroy" it says operation not supported, what does that mean?
[10:18] <jvai> which is lighter? xfce or fluxbox?
[10:18] <Subhuman> jvai, fluxbox.
[10:18] <jvai> ok
[10:18] <flaringo> d00by, I think ctrl+alt+F1 works
[10:18] <vit_> i don't belive there is no romanian in ubuntu ....
[10:18] <gostview> anyone knows if there a win32codec  for a 64 bit?
[10:18] <vit_> :(
[10:18] <Subhuman> vit_, there is.
[10:19] <Subhuman> !ro
[10:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:19] <flaringo> I'm not sure if it's that you're aiming for, though
[10:19] <Subhuman> !rm
[10:19] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:19] <LjL> Normal: ctrl+alt+f1
[10:19] <vit_> :)
[10:19] <pike_> Felos: what does cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log say near the end?
[10:19] <Subhuman> vit_, hmm.
[10:19] <pike_> Felos: dont paste it :)
[10:19] <kintaro0e> hello everyone how to downgrade evolution 2.6 to 2.4?any advice?
[10:19] <Normal> Thank you!
[10:19] <kintaro0e> need this for my research
[10:19] <kintaro0e> :)
[10:19] <flaringo> oh, wrong person xD
[10:19] <vit_> romanian ?
[10:19] <Mehercle> I can't create partitions on a usb device. It tells me that the  sector size is wrong. What can i do with  this?
[10:19] <Mehercle> i can't use it now.
[10:19] <d00by> flaringo, nope still says same thing
[10:20] <flaringo> d00by, sorry, that message was ment to Normal :p
[10:20] <d00by> flaringo, lol then how do i get back to graphical mode
[10:20] <d00by> for some reason when I type "wlanconfig ath0 destroy" it says operation not supported, what does that mean?
[10:20] <flaringo> d00by, ctrl+alt+f7... or f8 xD
[10:20] <Mehercle> I can't create partitions on a usb device. It tells me that the  sector size is wrong. What can i do with  this?
[10:20] <Mehercle> i can't use it now.
[10:20] <drezha> kintaro0e - You can probably remove via Synaptic and see if version 2.4 is there as well
[10:21] <drezha> then install 2.4 in Synaptic as well
[10:21] <Felos> pike_, fatal server error, could not open default font 'fixed,' also gives some listings of unbind keys
[10:21] <vit_> cum bre de comunicat cu tine?
[10:21] <kintaro0e> ok
[10:21] <kintaro0e> thanks drezha
[10:21] <Celeste> hi
[10:21] <anmar> hey guys. I want to have SMP on my edgy eft but there is not kernel for that. Do you know where can I get the current edgy eft kernel config file to compie my 2.6.18 kernel ?
[10:22] <nox23> Hi , im trying to install a Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-350 cards with IVTV driver on a Ubuntu Dapper, Everything is installed , and the ivtv driver is running but when i start tvtime i get Cannot open capture device /dev/video0: error , Thanks for help !
[10:22] <pike_> Felos: what does it do if you remove .xinirc and just run xinit?
[10:22] <Mehercle> I can't create partitions on a usb device. It tells me that the  sector size is wrong. What can i do with  this?
[10:22] <Mehercle> i can't use it now.
[10:22] <tat> sure the generic kernel doesnt support smp?
[10:23] <Celeste> When will "edgy" be stable ?
[10:23] <Lobster> soon
[10:23] <Starker> About fonts... I have this folder full of fonts. I want to use them with Ubuntu (Previously used em with windows).. How would I copy them to use it with Ubuntu
[10:23] <steeltoes1234> can someone give me some help.   im trying to install java for firefox
[10:23] <Felos> pike_: same thing
[10:23] <ompaul> Celeste, 20th Oct
[10:24] <Felos> pike_: fatal error, could not open default font 'fixed'
[10:24] <steeltoes1234> i need to manually install the java.    there is instructions how to do it.  but im a total noob to linux.
[10:24] <vit_> :|
[10:24] <MenZa> !wireless > mumbles
[10:24] <ompaul> !java steeltoes1234
[10:24] <Felos> ompaul: What's the process for upgrading? Will it be sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[10:24] <esters> hello, where is the bootup script located ?
[10:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java steeltoes1234 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:24] <nox23> steeltoes1234 sudo apt-get install jamvm -f
[10:24] <ompaul> !java > steeltoes1234
[10:24] <vit_> :T
[10:24] <pike_> Felos: also might ls -a | xargs -i sudo chown -R username {}   from your home directory but im really not sure what the problem is try sudo adduser and see if new user has same problem
[10:25] <nox23> Hi , im trying to install a Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-350 cards with IVTV driver on a Ubuntu Dapper, Everything is installed , and the ivtv driver is running but when i start tvtime i get Cannot open capture device /dev/video0: error , Thanks for help !.
[10:25] <steeltoes1234> ok thanks
[10:25] <Mehercle> I can't create partitions on a usb device. It tells me that the  sector size is wrong. What can i do with  this?
[10:25] <Mehercle> i can't use it now.
[10:25] <ompaul> esters, there are several you need to the define for the _channel _what yoiu want to do and then maybe we can help more
[10:25] <Teri2007>  when I login to my account via ftp (using vsftpd) i am unable to save files to anywhere except my /home/ folder.  I'm trying to upload files to /var/www.... website files etc.  I am unsure what to search for in google in regards to vsftpd & apache2 working together as they should...
[10:25] <pike_> Felos: it really is as simple as apt-getting xserver-xorg and fluxbox and xinit for me
[10:26] <steeltoes1234> well prob is it always asks for my password
[10:26] <steeltoes1234> but it always rejects it
[10:26] <nox23> Hi , im trying to install a Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-350 cards with IVTV driver on a Ubuntu Dapper, Everything is installed , and the ivtv driver is running but when i start tvtime i get Cannot open capture device /dev/video0: error , Thanks for help !..
[10:26] <Felos> pike_: same thing with new user.
[10:26] <ompaul> steeltoes1234, so were you the first user on the machine?
[10:26] <steeltoes1234> yes
[10:26] <steeltoes1234> and the only user
[10:27] <ompaul> steeltoes1234, so do this apt-cache search java | grep sun and see what is said
[10:27] <esters> ompaul: i just want to know what *.conf or *.loacle file ir for boot-up
[10:27] <cwillu> is it possible to make a multisession dvd/cd on ubuntu?
[10:27] <pike_> Felos: well you could always apt-get gdm and if pulling its dependancies works just disable it from starting at boot
[10:27] <kintaro0e> hey drezha, evolution 2.6 is only available..no 2.4...how to solve it?
[10:27] <kintaro0e> :)
[10:27] <Starker> Font Problem... anyone please? have no  idea where to copy new fonts and if these .TTF can be used with Ubuntu as weel like they do in Windows..???
[10:28] <mumbles> hahaha MenZa
[10:28] <davidmacintosh> running dictd with databases installed... would like Dictionary 2.16.1 to hook up to that locally... wonder how i'd go about that...
[10:28] <mumbles> argh
[10:28] <ompaul> esters, there are many it starts with /boot/grub/menu.lst then the init process takes place and scripts in /etc/init.d/ get called
[10:28] <MenZa> mumbles: check the pm you got from ubotu :)
[10:28] <cvacubo> Starker, you can install msttcorefonts package
[10:28] <mumbles> ok - who has gotten a blking wireless G pcmcia card tow ork ?
[10:28] <gnomefreak> !sources
[10:28] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:28] <esters> ompaul: ok thanks
[10:28] <Felos> pike_: would xdm work, and how would I stop it from starting at boot?
[10:28] <gnomefreak> hm
[10:28] <Mehercle> How can i change the sector size of a usb device?
[10:28] <Acidic32> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[10:29] <Acidic32> i have xorg-dev installed
[10:29] <steeltoes1234> when  type apt-cache search java | grep sun, nothing happens
[10:29] <joejaxx> Felos: how do you stop what from starting?
[10:29] <tannerld> I installed ubuntu on my laptop and I don't have any icons on the desktop like I did when I installed ubuntu on my main computer - how can I get the typical trash, home, computer icons there?
[10:29] <ompaul> esters, that is the really short version but if you told  the CHANNEL me what you want to do you should get a better answer on how to get from where you are to where you want to be
[10:29] <Ruffles> tannerld, go to configuration editor
[10:29] <tannerld> Ruffles: Ok.
[10:30] <Starker> and what about my TTF collection of Fonts how am I suppose to use that
[10:30] <Ruffles> tannerld, appt / nautilus / desktop
[10:30] <trovach> peopel i have one big problem
[10:30] <trovach> Help me!!!
[10:30] <ompaul> !ask
[10:30] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:30] <esters> ompaul: what is "channel" in this situation ? i don really get it
[10:30] <tannerld> Ruffles: Ah, thanks!
[10:30] <pike_> Felos: you would need to remove the symbolic links in the /etc/rc directories.  debian and ubuntu have a tool for this the command is sudo update-rc.d -f xdm remove  or whatever script is in the /etc/init.d/ directory you dont want to start
[10:30] <Ruffles> tannerld, yw
[10:30] <ompaul> esters, you are in a channel with 945 people
[10:30] <Ruffles> and increasing...
[10:30] <esters> it's called ubuntu
[10:30] <esters> right
[10:30] <esters> and what distro am i using
[10:30] <esters> ubuntu
[10:31] <Normal> I used Ctrl-Alt-F1 then tried the Nvidia Beta.run, but it still said 'You appear to be running an X-Server'. How do I fix this?
[10:31] <Ruffles> lol
[10:31] <esters> i want to remove some entries from boot-up to decrease the boot-up time
[10:31] <ciphernemo> If I want the gnu c and c++ compiler to use #make, should I download package gcc-2.95 ?
[10:31] <Ruffles> esters, install the bootmanager
[10:31] <esters> in this case from the config
[10:31] <esters> ok
[10:31] <ompaul> esters, so to do that - install a program called >> bum << boot up manager
[10:32] <Ruffles> ciphernemo, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:32] <ciphernemo> Ruffles: thx!
[10:32] <ompaul> esters, you see if you say what your end goal is then you get better information
[10:32] <adrianjr-lnx> hi
[10:32] <davidmacintosh> esters: search on the forums too... there are some good tutorials there
[10:32] <ciphernemo> Ruffles: should I remove or complete remove gcc-2.95 if I added it?
[10:32] <adrianjr-lnx> hello everyone
[10:32] <Ruffles> ciphernemo, mmm.. i don't think so
[10:32] <Felos> pike_: hm, same thing after installing gdm
[10:32] <adrianjr-lnx> i have a question
[10:32] <Normal> Is there a command to quit the X-Server(not Ctrl-Alt-F1)?
[10:32] <esters> eh pardon
[10:32] <ciphernemo> Ruffles: thx again
[10:32] <steeltoes1234> arg
[10:32] <davidmacintosh> adrianjr-lnx: go
[10:33] <adrianjr-lnx> how can i know whatt's my current screen resolution?
[10:33] <steeltoes1234> what is the best way to learn linux commands.    i am a total noob to linux
[10:33] <Ruffles> Normal, control+alt+backspace
[10:33] <mumbles> http://johnedmondson.pastebin.co.uk/3494 is my lspic output
[10:33] <davidmacintosh> go to system preferences and click on screan resolution
[10:33] <Ruffles> steeltoes1234, google
[10:33] <Normal> Okay, I'll try it.
[10:33] <pike_> Felos: you might consider apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and if it loads ok just remove sym links for gdm it that doesnt work and its a new system you might just reinstall real quick
[10:33] <mumbles> MenZa ?
[10:34] <adrianjr-lnx> Im running Mepis, this is my first linux system
[10:34] <esters> steeltoes1234: http://www.computerhope.com/unix.htm
[10:34] <adrianjr-lnx> how do i go theere?
[10:34] <pike_> Felos: never had exerience with that sort of error launching X
[10:34] <trovach> I have Ubuntu 6.06 lts release and i would like to use it as a live cd for surfing on the net... but here is a problem i am using a wireless conection thru antena on the top of my building where lives 30 people and thru the building we have a LAN cable to apartments! how can I set the Ubuntu to connect to the AP thru this LAN network and the to connect to VPN? :(((
[10:34] <davidmacintosh> adrianjr-lnx: why are you asking in the Ubuntu channel?
[10:34] <Ruffles> mepis is ubuntu based anyway
[10:34] <Felos> pike_: think xubuntu desktop would be ok as well, or do I need ubuntu-desktop?
[10:35] <michael> Hello all, I am looking for someone to help me troubleshoot my Via Rhine II.
[10:35] <pike_> Felos: on that system i would definately not install ubuntu-desktop
[10:35] <Ruffles> Felos, it depends on which environment you wanna run
[10:35] <adrianjr-lnx> im sorry this is the first channel i got into let me look for the propper one
[10:35] <adrianjr-lnx> regards all, thank you
[10:35] <Ruffles> adrianjr-lnx, come back again when you see the light
[10:35] <Ruffles> lol
[10:35] <sureshot> what is mepis by the way
[10:35] <Ruffles> mepis is an ubuntu based linux
[10:35] <Felos> pike_: Ok, I misread what you said, thought you said ubuntu when you said xubuntu.
[10:36] <Ruffles> it uses kde as its default graphical environment
[10:36] <trovach> anyoneknow the answer??
[10:36] <sureshot> thanks Ruffles i did not know that
[10:36] <Ruffles> yw bro
[10:36] <Simian__> i havn't had any internet access for about 2 months, i just had broadband activated this evening, so i have a bit of cathing up to do, is edgy eft fairly stable yet or not?
[10:37] <Ruffles> Simian__, i've been runnin' it for 2 days long now.. and it's quite stable
[10:37] <Ruffles> Simian__, the only problem i got was regardin' firefox's new version aka bon echo
[10:37] <Simian__> Ruffles: thanks, i might give it a go
[10:37] <Felos> Simian__: When I used it it was pretty stable, that was Knot 3. I'm back on Dapper now, am going to wait until final since it's less than two weeks a way.
[10:37] <Ruffles> Simian__, yep do that
[10:37] <davidmacintosh> trovach: good lord that's complicated.  lol.
[10:37] <captine> anyone here running 64 bit 6.06 on a Turion notebook??
[10:38] <Ruffles> Felos, i've seen on their page that ubuntu's due to release in oct 26th
[10:38] <ompaul> trovach, your question leaves me confused, are you trying to connect to wire or wireless I don't care about any other question
[10:38] <Felos> Ruffles: Oh? I thought I saw someone say here earlier it was 20th.
[10:38] <Ruffles> Felos, i've just seen it on their page
[10:39] <Ruffles> Felos, kernel's been frozen already though
[10:39] <M`Hael> anyone here had any success installing Ubuntu on the Acer Travelmate 8104?
[10:39] <davidmacintosh> trovach: my understanding is that you're connecting to a router that is being fed from wireless, in which case you don't have to worry about wireless...
[10:40] <trovach> i am conncting thru the wire to the Access point for the wireless internet which uses in windows connection to VPN
[10:40] <davidmacintosh> trovach: the VPN thing is step 2
[10:40] <trovach> yes davidmacintosh!!! :)
[10:40] <gortiz> hi to all
[10:41] <davidmacintosh> trovach: are you connected to the router yet?
[10:41] <ompaul> trovach, to connect to the wire do this, click on system adminstration networking and activate it
[10:41] <trovach> help on the first step if you can pls
[10:41] <ompaul> trovach, tell us when you are done
[10:41] <trovach> yes now I am in windows connected to net
[10:41] <mumbles> anyone here up on laptos and wirelessnetwork cards ?
[10:42] <gortiz> yea mumbles
[10:42] <dyn-afk> the intel 2200bg works like a charm :P
[10:42] <gortiz> lol
[10:42] <davidmacintosh> mumbles: yo
[10:42] <trovach> and i have activated the network last time but I don`t know what next
[10:43] <M`Hael> how about 2915abg?
[10:43] <JoshIRL> I need some DNS help, if anyone was here last night you know my story. I cehecked and i can connect to a RAW ip but i can't connect to a www. url, if i do it takes a while, no gaim or anything can connect, and my repositorys work. Help?
[10:43] <davidmacintosh> oi, must go...
[10:43] <jhasse> My mouse sometimes does doubleclicks instead of a normal click. Can someone help me?
[10:43] <mumbles> ok - i have a acer aspire 3610 . i have installed ndiswapper - and got the driver for it
[10:43] <Ruffles> jharr, buy a new mouse :)
[10:43] <mumbles> but it dosent seam to want to connect to my wirelss network
[10:43] <Ruffles> jharr, try decreasing double-click time
[10:44] <gortiz> what kind of wireless card do you have?
[10:44] <mumbles> just disablaling the wpa
[10:44] <mumbles> gortiz its an onbord thing
[10:44] <mumbles> i have also got a belkin f5d7011 pcmcia card
[10:44] <jhasse> Ruffles, k
[10:44] <gean> !install
[10:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:44] <gean> !netinstall
[10:44] <gortiz> onboard wireless?
[10:45] <mumbles> yeh . i think it uses the prisam chipset
[10:45] <jhasse> Ruffles, hmm, didn't help
[10:45] <mumbles> one sec got an lspci output somewhere
[10:45] <gortiz> ok
[10:45] <ompaul> trovach, you need to tell us what kind of a "vpn" is in place, what programs are used
[10:45] <jhasse> Ruffles, i think it's a problem of ubuntu, not of my mouse
[10:46] <mon^rch> problem: kguitar doesn't have any midi devices installed... is there a way to put one in???
[10:46] <arvind_> hi i have installed imagemagick i know it is somewhere in /usr/bin how to where the correct path cant find it
[10:46] <mumbles> http://johnedmondson.pastebin.co.uk/3494 gortiz
[10:46] <Ruffles> jharr, is it workin' ok on windows?
[10:47] <patrickmorin> can anyone know of an NFO maker that will work with Ubuntu?
[10:47] <SkramX> what do i use to burn isos.. in Ubuntu 5.04?
[10:47] <SkramX> anything installed already?
[10:47] <gortiz> BCM4318
[10:47] <JoshIRL> I need some DNS help, if anyone was here last night you know my story. I cehecked and i can connect to a RAW ip but i can't connect to a www. url, if i do it takes a while, no gaim or anything can connect, and my repositorys work. Help?
[10:47] <trovach> VPN is VIRTUAL PRIVATE NETWORK to which I must conect to have a net conection
[10:48] <gortiz> mhmm.. i've got some problem with a notebook with that chip... just a moment
[10:48] <mumbles> gortiz that to me ?
[10:48] <mumbles> ah cool
[10:48] <pike_> arvind_: "which imagemagick" doesnt return anything? you could do sudo find / -name imagemagick -ls
[10:48] <lukus001> Hey guys,    I'm getting a new motherboard in a few days, What is it i need to do to get my current linux install working for my mobo?   Do i have to set the kernal up again or anything?
[10:49] <ompaul> trovach, we know what a VPN is, our problem is what is it on windows that generating this VPN what program, then we may be able to match the protcol
[10:49] <Flannel> lukus001: you changing your processor?
[10:49] <Skelator> hiya, What to I need to apt-get to compile GTK2 apps?
[10:49] <arvind_> ty pike_ :0 it worked half of problem solved :)
[10:50] <ompaul> trovach, if you want to know a good VPN program use a OpenVPN but if there is one in place already you need to tell us it's name
[10:50] <lukus001> Flannel, no just my motherboard - this pc was water cooled - leaked...   So im replacing the mobo
[10:51] <bsdfox> how can I disable firestarter/the firewall? I have it set to not load on boot but I always have to sudo /etc/init.d/firestarter stop   to get my internet working...
[10:51] <Flannel> lukus001: you should be fine then.  Any peripherals on the MB might need to have drivers tweaked
[10:51] <gortiz> yeah mumbles... sorry! it still is on my to-do list...
[10:51] <Samuli^> bsdfox, for one, you could remove it.
[10:51] <gortiz> mumbles: can you post the result of "ndiswrapper -l"
[10:51] <Samuli^> or just name the init.d/firestarter to _firestarter or something else.
[10:51] <ompaul> mumbles, in a pastebin
[10:52] <lukus001> Flannel, how do the mb drivers get tweaked?
[10:52] <jtholmes> Skelator: believe each app may have diff reqmts  so  compile  the app and see what it complains about then search for it and download it
[10:52] <JoshIRL> I need some DNS help, if anyone was here last night you know my story. I cehecked and i can connect to a RAW ip but i can't connect to a www. url, if i do it takes a while, no gaim or anything can connect, and my repositorys work. Help? >_ >
[10:52] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows a good direct connect client for Ubuntu, except valknut
[10:52] <jhasse> Is there any email program which can be minimized to tray?
[10:52] <Flannel> lukus001: like, if you have onboard sound, or ethernet, or whatever, and the chipset gets changed.  Just like normal setting up of drivers.
[10:52] <pike_> JoshIRL: you can ping and connect by ipaddress ok?
[10:52] <mumbles> gortiz one sec
[10:52] <gortiz> ok
[10:52] <JoshIRL> Yes, that's what i meant by raw ip.
[10:53] <JoshIRL> if i nslookup site.com, use the ip, i can go there no problem.
[10:53] <mumbles> gortiz it comes up with >
[10:53] <mumbles> and thats it
[10:53] <Skelator> jholmes: It's complaing 'cos it cant find gtk/gtk.h
[10:53] <hangfire> Zaggynl- I think most of them can
[10:53] <lukus001> Flannel, is there anything that could cause conflict, like my old drivers for example that were used for the same purpose as the new?
[10:53] <Flannel> lukus001: no, in the process of changing, you'll be disabling the old ones
[10:53] <Zaggynl> hangfire, ?
[10:53] <mumbles> gortiz found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear
[10:53] <mumbles> just about to start on that guide
[10:53] <pike_> JoshIRL: you can sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf and see whats in there. you really only need one like like nameserver 192.160.0.1 or whatever your gateway is in most cases
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows howto permanent change the mac adress of a nic?
[10:54] <JoshIRL> Yeah, i've done it, and that's all taht's in there.
[10:54] <lukus001> Flannel, ok thats all i needed to know really.  thanks
[10:54] <Flannel> Skelator: you need the -dev files for GTK
[10:54] <Skelator> ok thanks :-)
[10:54] <pike_> JoshIRL: so no names are resolving? dig google.com for example doesnt work?
[10:54] <JoshIRL> Perhaps if i reinstall ubuntu while my modem is connected to that pc? :S
[10:54] <hangfire> Zaggynl- I think most email programs will minimize to an icon on your toolbar
[10:54] <Flannel> !tell Skelator about compile
[10:55] <Flannel> Skelator: that page gives info about finding missing stuff
[10:55] <jtholmes> JoshIRL: just for grins put the  ip and  name of  site.com  into your  /etc/hosts  and try the url and see if it works
[10:55] <ompaul> lotuspsychje, maybe this  http://whoozoo.co.uk/mac-spoof-linux.htm
[10:55] <gortiz> mumbles: did you follow that istructions?
[10:55] <JoshIRL> www.google.com sometimes works, its really slow, but if i get the ip, it works.
[10:55] <ompaul> lotuspsychje, not had to do it yet
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> ok ompaul
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> i leeched macchanger oncde
[10:55] <Zaggynl> hangfire, err I was asking for a good direct connect client :P
[10:55] <Acidic32> !kernel
[10:55] <mumbles> am doing so now
[10:55] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> but after reboots hw adress gets back
[10:55] <JoshIRL> If i reinstall ubuntu while connected to my modmem will it maybe catch the Dns and make it work? :/
[10:55] <ompaul> lotuspsychje, read it
[10:56] <Zaggynl> !directconnect
[10:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about directconnect - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:56] <Zaggynl> !dc
[10:56] <pike_> lotuspsychje: you could make a script that runs at boot to ifconfig eth0 hw ether 00:00:00 or whatever
[10:56] <ubotu> dc: The GNU dc arbitrary precision reverse-polish calculator. In component main, is optional. Version 1.06-19ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 56 kB, installed size 200 kB
[10:56] <Zaggynl> hm
[10:56] <gortiz> mumble: ok when you have done say me if it works..
[10:56] <gortiz> :)
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> aight pike_
[10:56] <shea> well, hrm.  anyone ever had issues with extremely latent (possibly just slow) USB?
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> hmmmz making script
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> that's another story
[10:56] <ompaul> Zaggynl, give it 5 more mins before you ask again there will be different people there then
[10:56] <gnomefreak> Zaggynl open a terminal and type apt-cache search dcc or open synaptic and search for dcc
[10:56] <mumbles> will do
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> lol
[10:56] <shea> i'm using a motion controller and the input is sampled at what seems to be 2 samples/sec
[10:57] <jtholmes> JoshIRL: no you modem wont be dialed in during the main portion of install only during (possibly) updates
[10:57] <JoshIRL> :\
[10:57] <shea> same with other usb devices, similar behavior
[10:57] <trovach> i do not know which program is it but it is the same as for the dial up network
[10:57] <JoshIRL> Well, i'm kinda screwed then?
[10:57] <trovach> sorry but i am not a so good with the names of the programs
[10:57] <pike_> JoshIRL: try maybe about:config in the firefox address bar and search for ipv6 and disable it
[10:57] <Zaggynl> gnomefreak, I did, but thanks
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> can anyone tell if ubuntu is secure of sploits?
[10:57] <jtholmes> JoshIRL: brb
[10:57] <shea> google didn't reveal much insight and hacking around for an hour didn't reveal anything strange
[10:57] <Zaggynl> I didn't mean to spam the channel etc
[10:58] <ompaul> trovach,  you need to give us information ask the person who has the windows one ?
[10:58] <rsa> I'm not able to install ubuntu , error message  "Your installation cd-rom couldn't be mounted. This probably means that the cd-rom was not in the drive." ... how I can fix this ?
[10:58] <ompaul> lotuspsychje, it is not bad
[10:58] <JoshIRL> Pike_ that would only work in firefox, i still couldn't get on gaim oranything. :s
[10:58] <Wulong> What is the fastest Display manager?
[10:58] <ompaul> rsa, by any chance do you have two cd drives?
[10:58] <trovach> my vpn is sks named but i do not know is that metters
[10:58] <gnomefreak> Zaggynlim not on ubuntu atm but if i remember there are 50+ dcc apps in repos
[10:58] <bsdfox> Samuli^, it actually looks like iptables is a standard package.. it wants to remove ubuntu-standard
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> yow dev_
[10:58] <mumbles> gortiz cant find bcm43xx-fwcutter so i can install
[10:58] <Zaggynl> gnomefreak, sorry I ment direct connect
[10:59] <Zaggynl> dc
[10:59] <ompaul> Wulong, afterstep or windowmanager stuff
[10:59] <mon^rch> is there a site where I can get info on making/editing gnome themes???
[10:59] <ompaul> Wulong, xfce ( #xubuntu ) fluxbuntu
[10:59] <gortiz> mumbles: just a moment. searching...
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> last question: any good fxp prog for ubuntu?
[10:59] <Jamminpotato> any body here familar with songbird here?
[10:59] <jtholmes> JoshIRL: execute  ping  -Bd  68.178.253.213 and get 30-40 displays and compare the  ms  time at the end of the line and see how much it varies
[11:00] <Envel> how to create a new channel?
[11:00] <Wulong> ompaul: I asked for a display manager, not desktop enviroment. FVWM and fluxbox would be faster then.
[11:00] <JoshIRL> and do what from there Jtholmes, i'm on my living room pc, to do that i gotta drag the modem back to my room and connect it. :P
[11:00] <rsa> man ..ubuntu sucks
[11:00] <rsa> hahha
[11:00] <Wulong> A display manager is either xdm, kdm or gdm.
[11:00] <ompaul> Wulong, there is that
[11:00] <ompaul> Wulong, lightest is xdm
[11:00] <trovach> it is a pitty
[11:00] <Zaggynl> lotuspsychje, gftp-gtk
[11:00] <Wulong> Though so, thanks.
[11:01] <jtholmes> JoshIRL: i dont understand i thought you were on the connection giving the problem
[11:01] <Jamminpotato> whenever i run this program called songbird, my /home folder immetidaetly becomes read only
[11:01] <Envel> tell me please how to create a new channel
[11:01] <Jamminpotato> how can i make this not happen
[11:01] <JoshIRL> No -.-, it's in the other room, it's the same connection, different pc's.
[11:01] <JoshIRL> I wouldn't be able to get in here if it was that pc
[11:01] <Wulong> Envel: channel in what?
[11:01] <gortiz> mumble: try to download from:"http://bcm43xx.berlios.de"
[11:01] <Flannel> Jamminpotato: don't run songbird
[11:01] <ompaul> Envel,  /join ##whatever
[11:01] <jtholmes> JoshIRL: i  thought the linux box was connected to the modem
[11:01] <Zaggynl> is there a way to remap the global hotkeys from rhythmbox to amarok?
[11:01] <Envel> thanks
[11:01] <trovach> i am connected to a WAN miniport PPTP with this ports 192.168.16.1
[11:02] <JoshIRL> No, i'm on windows in my living room.
[11:02] <JoshIRL> The linux pc is in my room
[11:02] <jtholmes> JoshIRL: and linux is where
[11:02] <ompaul> !bcm43
[11:02] <Jamminpotato> Flannel, well that doesnt help me very much
[11:02] <JoshIRL> In my room..
[11:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bcm43 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:02] <ompaul> !broadcom
[11:02] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:02] <gnomefreak> Zaggynl here is a list of dc clients + other things http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=dc&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all
[11:02] <jtholmes> JoshIRL: is linux   machine connected to modem
[11:02] <Jamminpotato> and how can i change the read/write status of the file system?
[11:02] <Felos> pike_: Ok, in Xubuntu now. When I logged-in I was prompted with a login screen that had 'debian' on the right, any idea where I go from here?
[11:02] <Zaggynl> gnomefreak,  cheers!
[11:02] <Flannel> Jamminpotato: you'd have to ask the songbird people, it's not in ubuntu, as such, we have no idea why it's doing it.
[11:03] <ompaul> Jamminpotato, not a great idea in some cases which one and what is on it
[11:03] <JoshIRL> Not right this moment Jtholmes, when i connect it, i take the modem back there to try and get it all going.
[11:03] <pike_> Felos: so you can login and xfce loads ok?
[11:03] <Flannel> Jamminpotato: your best bet is to treat the problem, not just fix the symptoms
[11:03] <Felos> pike_: Yep, I'm in Xfce.
[11:03] <jtholmes> JoshIRL: so you r moving the modem back and forth between windows and linux correct
[11:03] <mumbles> hahaha
[11:03] <mumbles> just manage to almost kill my laptop
[11:03] <JoshIRL> Lol, yes.
[11:04] <GortiZ> lol
[11:04] <atlef> automatix2, any comments so far?
[11:04] <Jamminpotato> ompaul, my entire home folder which is on another hdd from everything else...it is happening when i run a program called songbird it goes from read/write to read only
[11:04] <GortiZ> mumbles: asd
[11:04] <GortiZ> ;)
[11:04] <ompaul> Jamminpotato, as per flannel
[11:04] <nox23> Hi www.pastebin.us/6124 im getting this error installing ivtv drivers , my card firmware drivers are in /lib/firmware and /lib/firmware/2.6.15-26=386 and im still getting an error about my drivers not in the driver directory , WHat is the driver hotplug firmware directory in ubuntu , thanks for help
[11:04] <pike_> Felos: lets try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop and then try xinit again. if it works we can disable gdm and just use xinit if you want
[11:04] <maxLF> I have a quick question about ATI in linux
[11:04] <Felos> pike_: All righty.
[11:04] <Jamminpotato> ompaul, well i dont know how to fix the problem
[11:04] <troughton> how do i start the sshd client ??
[11:04] <Flannel> Jamminpotato: ask the songbird people.
[11:04] <GortiZ> maxLF: go!
[11:05] <mumbles> reebooting now :P
[11:05] <ompaul> Jamminpotato, ask the songbird people
[11:05] <uncannybuzzard> has anyone tried edgy eft beta?
[11:05] <JoshIRL> Is that a bad idea JTholmes?
[11:05] <pike_> troughton: its installed? sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[11:05] <Ash-Fox> Argh, how do I disable preempt in the kernel? most horrid thing I ever dealt with, especially when it comes to ATi
[11:05] <Flannel> uncannybuzzard: #ubuntu+1, plenty of people have
[11:05] <jtholmes> JoshIRL: ok  that test on linux would tell you basically the ms response time for about a minute of pings  to    site.com   and I  was  wondering what the spread was
[11:05] <nox23> Hi www.pastebin.us/6124 im getting this error installing ivtv drivers , my card firmware drivers are in /lib/firmware and /lib/firmware/2.6.15-26=386 and im still getting an error about my drivers not in the driver directory , WHat is the driver hotplug firmware directory in ubuntu , thanks for help..
[11:05] <pike_> troughton: the client or daemon?
[11:05] <maxLF> GortiZ I did the driver on the Ubuntu website for my new ATI RAdeon 9550, and everything is running just fine. :)
[11:05] <ompaul> !edgy
[11:05] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[11:05] <GortiZ> ok then...
[11:05] <ompaul> uncannybuzzard, ^^
[11:05] <JoshIRL> oh. > _ >
[11:05] <jtholmes> JoshIRL: not a bad idea just make things complicated
[11:05] <Xore> !schedule
[11:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[11:05] <mumbles> edgy hahaha
[11:06] <GortiZ> edgy?
[11:06] <jtholmes> JoshIRL: brb  wife need me she is on crutches
[11:06] <JoshIRL> well that's not good.
[11:06] <nox23> !firmware
[11:06] <nox23> !hotplug
[11:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firmware - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:06] <nox23> Hi www.pastebin.us/6124 im getting this error installing ivtv drivers , my card firmware drivers are in /lib/firmware and /lib/firmware/2.6.15-26=386 and im still getting an error about my drivers not in the driver directory , WHat is the driver hotplug firmware directory in ubuntu , thanks for help..
[11:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hotplug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:06] <JoshIRL> Jtholmes, what about if i install windows xp on that pc, then partiton and install linux also? would that help it maybe?
[11:06] <troughton> both i am trying to set up a remot conection with a friend
[11:06] <maxLF> GortiZ, I'm just wondering, when you start up are you supposed to see the ATI Logo? I mean there's a small moment where the screen is black and then it shows the login, on my other computer with an NVIDIA card it shows the NVIDIA symbol, so should it be showing the ATI symbol? XP
[11:06] <JoshIRL> cause this pc had linux, and xp, ran fine, connected to the net, no problems.
[11:06] <Flannel> JoshIRL: that's the best way of dualbooting, especially if you install windows on the partition size it'll end up on, isntead of resizing.
[11:07] <GortiZ> maxLF: no, no, there isn't any ati logo on boot-up
[11:07] <JoshIRL> so which should i install first, if i do, flannel? xp or linux?
[11:07] <peace-keeper> anyone knows a linux command for doing a binary comparison of two files?
[11:07] <Flannel> !tell JoshIRL about dualboot
[11:07] <JoshIRL> doh
[11:07] <maxLF> GoritZ: Anyways too? I thouight it would be cool to see the ATI thing. ;P
[11:07] <Flannel> JoshIRL: XP first, Linux actually acknowledges other OSs, windows doesnt
[11:07] <JoshIRL> figured, i've dual booted before
[11:07] <GortiZ> maxLF: i don't...
[11:08] <harrism> Hello everyone, I need some help and was hoping for advice. I was able to install Jedi outcast and successfully run it through wine. The problem comes when I want to start a new game. It tells me disk 1 is not in the cd drive but it is. Any ideas?
[11:08] <superkirbyartist> Printer does not print.
[11:08] <JoshIRL> i'm going to go install windows, then linux and try this again, be back in a few..
[11:08] <nox23> Hi www.pastebin.us/6124 im getting this error installing ivtv drivers , my card firmware drivers are in /lib/firmware and /lib/firmware/2.6.15-26=386 and im still getting an error about my drivers not in the driver directory , WHat is the driver hotplug firmware directory in ubuntu , thanks for help..
[11:08] <nox23> please can someone help !!!
[11:08] <repe> I'm gettins some error when tryin to upgrade 5.10 to 6.06. Almost right in start when upgrade starts I get "Can't install 'ubuntu-desktop' It was impossible to install a required package. Please report this as a bug." Anyone know how to fix this?
[11:08] <troughton> pike both i am trying to set up a remote access to a friend
[11:08] <maxLF> Flannel: Windows is like that girl in highschool who is like really hott and ignores everyone accept people she's cool with, while Ubuntu is like that hott kind of different girl who acknowladges everyone's existance. :)
[11:08] <Felos> pike_: All right, fluxbox loads-up fine.
[11:08] <pohwom> Disk /dev/hde doesn't contain a valid partition table
[11:08] <pohwom> what does this mean?
[11:08] <JoshIRL> lol@max :P
[11:08] <harrism> I even started the game from the disk
[11:08] <maxLF> JoshIRL: I try, I try. xP
[11:09] <nox23> Hi www.pastebin.us/6124 im getting this error installing ivtv drivers , my card firmware drivers are in /lib/firmware and /lib/firmware/2.6.15-26=386 and im still getting an error about my drivers not in the driver directory , WHat is the driver hotplug firmware directory in ubuntu , thanks for help...
[11:09] <maxLF> God damnit, the stupid USB door for the front of my case fell off.
[11:09] <maxLF> Thanks for the help plz
[11:09] <maxLF> pplz
[11:09] <superkirbyartist> I have a problem with printer.
[11:09] <GortiZ> ???
[11:09] <pike_> Felos: if you dont want gdm to start automatically just cd /etc/init.d/ and youll see the script there the sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove if you decide to run it later just sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start or restar
[11:09] <nox23> Hi www.pastebin.us/6124 im getting this error installing ivtv drivers , my card firmware drivers are in /lib/firmware and /lib/firmware/2.6.15-26=386 and im still getting an error about my drivers not in the driver directory , WHat is the driver hotplug firmware directory in ubuntu
[11:10] <erUSUL> nox23: /lib/firmware works for me (speedtouch firmware)
[11:10] <fishsticks> are there any alternatives to azureus and bittornado?
[11:10] <pike_> troughton: youll need the server installed on whichever machine you are connecting to. id install openssh-server on both
[11:10] <Jowi> superkirbyartist: you don't really give a lot of information. what type of printer. what type of connection. etc. etc.
[11:10] <troughton> ok
[11:10] <GortiZ> mumbles: have you fixed it?
[11:10] <Felos> pike_: Thanks for all your help.
[11:11] <pike_> troughton: then as long as the routers are letting port 22 through (port forwarding is setup) you should be able to ssh ipaddress -l username
[11:11] <pike_> Felos: np
[11:11] <floyd2> maxLF, I disagree with your analogy. Windows is that hot girl in the miniskirt who you like until you find out how loose she is while linux is the stuck up blond who seems attractive until you find out how high maintenance she would be to date. Both have their ups and downs :-)
[11:11] <troughton> ok thanks
[11:11] <nox23> erUSUL You put the firmware file in /lib/firmware root ?
[11:12] <nox23> erUSUL or inside the kernel directory of /lib/firmware ?
[11:12] <SkramX> How can I burn an iso in ubuntu?!
[11:12] <Jowi> floyd2: that is the most obnoxious and funny comment I've seen this week :)
[11:12] <erUSUL> nox23: the former, /lib/firmware root
[11:12] <superkirbyartist> K IDIOTS I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MY PRINTER!
[11:12] <GortiZ> floyd2: I don't think that linux require so much maintenance...
[11:12] <Jowi> superkirbyartist: read what I said
[11:13] <erUSUL> SkramX: right click on it and choose burn
[11:13] <GortiZ> floyd2: just a bit of time to set it up...
[11:13] <hondje> Something tells me you're about to continue having said printing problem
[11:13] <GortiZ> ;)
[11:13] <erUSUL> !ops
[11:13] <floyd2> GortiZ, it's all a matter of perspective
[11:13] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[11:13] <superkirbyartist> Lexmark X1270
[11:13] <SkramX> "Write to disk" okay
[11:13] <sureshot> superkirbyartid gee calling me an idoit makes me want to help you
[11:13] <gnomefreak> eracc?
[11:13] <SkramX> it knows that it is an iso and it'll work?
[11:13] <GortiZ> lol@floyd2 ;)
[11:13] <gnomefreak> erUSUL?
[11:13] <superkirbyartist> !of your mom
[11:13] <ompaul> eracc, ?
[11:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about of your mom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:13] <erUSUL> gnomefreak: superkirbyartist
[11:14] <ompaul> superkirbyartist, abusing people does not help
[11:14] <pike_> SkramX: if you want something more nero like (in a good way) try installing k3b
[11:14] <Alchemist_> Anyone know what repository csm is on? The compiz guides I've found give me some repos but they are missing the csm package.
[11:14] <jvai> lmao
[11:14] <mumbles> argh damm
[11:14] <jvai> smfh
[11:14] <SkramX> erUSUL: it has said initializing and the progress hasnt moved in a while..
[11:14] <erUSUL> gnomefreak: it is no nice call us, volunteers, idiots
[11:14] <GortiZ> well, good night... Bye to all.
[11:14] <superkirbyartist> Lexmark X1270 USB All-in-one.
[11:14] <ompaul> superkirbyartist, one more outburst like that and good bye if no one
[11:14] <gnomefreak> having issues ompaulcan you grab it
[11:14] <superkirbyartist> Well can you help then !?
[11:15] <mumbles> ah crap he left
[11:15] <gnomefreak> ompaul can you grab it i cant op
[11:15] <ompaul> superkirbyartist, maybe you need to give out to Lexmark cos they are not interoperable
[11:15] <ompaul> superkirbyartist, do you understand?
[11:15] <superkirbyartist> No.
[11:15] <erUSUL> SkramX: do not know what may be wrong. does the burner work with other progrmas like gnomebaker? or k3b?
[11:15] <superkirbyartist> Explain better.
[11:16] <Simian__> sorry but i want to know if i have set up my routers forwarding properly,  can somone click this and tell me if the link works     http://benward.dyndns.org/wordpress/
[11:16] <gnomefreak> wth
[11:16] <silvertip257> I'm having problems installing DSL 3.0.1 on a hard drive, would anyone help me?  I know there is a channel for DSL, but no one will answer
[11:16] <hondje> Nice
[11:16] <pike_> Simian__: yep
[11:16] <Simian__> pike_: thanks :)
[11:17] <hondje> silvertip257: Perhaps a more general chan such as ##linux
[11:17] <zool2005> evenin all, i've installed xorg but I haven't got a xorg.conf file. Normal?
[11:17] <silvertip257> hondje ok ty
[11:17] <hondje> np :)
[11:17] <ompaul> gnomefreak, can you pm?
[11:17] <hondje> zool2005: No. How did you install it, and did you check /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[11:18] <pike_> zool2005: sudo Xorg -configure or you could sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg if thats the package you installed
[11:18] <host`> question, when I just tried to "make" it said make not found, what do I need to install for that?
[11:18] <orospakr> hm, looks like nvidia is broken in the current edgy. :)
[11:18] <hondje> host`: probably you need to install the build-essential package
[11:18] <erUSUL> !b-e > host`
[11:18] <ryanakca> how do you put pictures (.jpg) onto an ipod from linux?
[11:18] <crippy> host`,build-essential
[11:19] <jtholmes> JoshIRL: i will have  some info for you in a sec
[11:19] <host`> thanks
[11:20] <JohnLemon> hello
[11:20] <silvertip257> I'm having problems installing DSL 3.0.1 on a hard drive, would anyone help me? I know there is a channel for DSL, but no one will answer, plus ##linux requires me to reg, i'm not doin that now
[11:20] <jtholmes> can anyone tell me  what is a dummy upgrade package  returned from  apt-cache search  is
[11:20] <zool2005> pike_ : thanks
[11:20] <erUSUL> silvertip257: we need more info
[11:20] <atlef> JohnLemon> hi
[11:20] <erUSUL> !repeat > silvertip257
[11:20] <jtholmes> i have an idea  but want a explanation
[11:21] <scristian> hi, sudo use su for autentification ?
[11:21] <silvertip257> erUSUL what more do u need to know? umm I got to the grub screen & didnt know what to do, plus it wouldnt let me type
[11:21] <silvertip257> it's running on the live cd presently
[11:22] <silvertip257> so i'm gonna redo things the right way if someone will tell me how 2
[11:22] <erUSUL> silvertip257: so you have already instaled it but it wont boot?
[11:22] <allawi> Hi all
[11:22] <atlef> hi to you
[11:22] <crippy> allawi, hi :-)
[11:22] <allawi> can anyone help me with LAMP server ???
[11:22] <ompaul> !lamp > allawi
[11:23] <ompaul> allawi, read what the bot sent you
[11:23] <silvertip257> erUSUL i have the drive partitioned & files copied for DSL to the drive
[11:23] <sureshot> well hi is better than that last person that called every idoits LOLOL
[11:23] <Jowi> silvertip257: haven't tested it in years. but there should be an install option in one of the menues after you boot it.
[11:23] <{{corona}}> hey there can someone tell me where i can find the kernel source on ubuntu..i mean where is it generlly  stored?
[11:23] <GoldKeeper> wee ubuntu automaticly split my windows partition and dual boot or will i need to split the partition before hand ?
[11:23] <allawi> I know what it is ... but i have a small problem
[11:23] <crippy> sureshot, nice :P
[11:23] <GoldKeeper> will*
[11:23] <ryanakca> how would one put a picture onto an Apple iPod from linux, so that one could actually view them with the firmware, and not just have the file on it?
[11:23] <motin> try this: how to i change my vino-server password from over a ssh connection?
[11:23] <silvertip257> Jowi there is, but the one doesnt work or rather just flashes a terminal window & that's it
[11:23] <Jowi> {{corona}}: after you install it it is located in /usr/src
[11:23] <musti> Hello on my last xubuntu install with adept i could install wine, now in my new install i don't see it. is there some list i need to add ??
[11:24] <ompaul> allawi, you have to tell the _channel_
[11:24] <crippy> GoldKeeper, Youll have to split it, Defrag and resize the partition with GParted, Then create the ubuntu partition in the free space
[11:24] <{{corona}}> Jowi: hey thanks
[11:24] <GoldKeeper> thankyou
[11:24] <allawi> ompaul, i thought that someone could help me ... like the last time
[11:24] <ompaul> allawi, you have to tell the _channel_ what the issue is
[11:24] <motin> musti, yes you need to add the sourceentry
[11:25] <motin> check www.winehq.com
[11:25] <allawi> ompaul, okey ... thanx anyway
[11:25] <zk> helloall - i am behind a proxy and trying to connect to msn using amsn - i have put the proxy details but it keeps saying wrong username or password. i have tested with lots of msn accounts and none of them work-all give the same error
[11:25] <{{corona}}> Jowi: i have three folders there all suggest they are headers
[11:25] <sureshot> hmmmmmmm
[11:26] <Shadow_mil> why does ubuntu not have a /dev/sound dir?
[11:26] <musti> motin: like this site? git clone git://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git wine
[11:26] <zk> my msn works with gaim though but i need to use webcam hence i am trying amsn
[11:26] <{{corona}}> Jowi: they are like "linux-headers-2.6.17-10"
[11:26] <motin> musti, i wouldnt think so
[11:26] <zk> pls someone help me
[11:26] <motin> go to winehq and go to download -> ubuntu
[11:26] <Jowi> {{corona}}: install package "linux-source"
[11:26] <motin> there are instructions
[11:26] <hondje> Shadow_mil: because it has /dev/snd?
[11:27] <{{corona}}> Jowi: does that mean i have the source or only the header
[11:27] <silvertip257> erUSUL, after goin thru the BIOS stuff in booting, it shows OS not found ... wth how ?
[11:27] <{{corona}}> apt-get install linux-source?
[11:27] <silvertip257> hmmm that's frigged up
[11:27] <Shadow_mil> hondje: some of my other Linux budies have a /dev/sound/dsp device
[11:27] <silvertip257> talkin bout my stuff
[11:27] <Shadow_mil> I don't though
[11:27] <zk> anyone pls?
[11:27] <hondje> Shadow_mil: Because in ubuntu it's /dev/dsp
[11:28] <Jowi> {{corona}}: only the header. the sources will be in /usr/src/linux after installation. yes. "sudo apt-get install linux-source"
[11:28] <Shadow_mil> O ok
[11:28] <mumbles> wow - who else was it who said they had wirelesscard isshues?
[11:28] <klekkus> hi everyone, i have a BIG problem that i cant seem to solve by my self. I reinstalled linux (ubuntu of course, since im in here) and ive configured my /etc/fstab to mount my windows drive with this line; /dev/hda2 /mnt/windows ntfs umask=022 0 0 the problem is that this is for a friend, and he is completely new to linux and are not familiar with the console. It works to mount the /media/windows in the console as root, but i want he (as a normal user, not
[11:28] <klekkus>  root) can mount it. Would anyone help me to get the mounting in x as a normal user with no root permission ? thanks pplz!
[11:28] <silvertip257> erUSUL ya there?
[11:28] <host`> !help
[11:28] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:28] <mumbles> ompaul was it you ?
[11:28] <pike_> Shadow_mil: test by cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp   :)
[11:29] <hondje> hehe
[11:29] <Shadow_mil> It works fine
[11:29] <ompaul> mumbles, no, I don't use them except for to modded linksys which have a vpn running between them
[11:29] <zk> helloall - i am behind a proxy and trying to connect to msn using amsn - i have put the proxy details but it keeps saying wrong username or password. i have tested with lots of msn accounts and none of them work-all give the same error
[11:29] <dewelder> good evening everyone
[11:29] <zk> my msn works with gaim though but i need to use webcam hence i am trying amsn
[11:29] <zk> pls someone help me
[11:29] <{{corona}}> jowi:so those headers folders being there means i have the headers but not the source? thanks
[11:29] <hondje> klekkus: add user or users to the options sectionb
[11:29] <crippy> dewelder, Good evening :-)
[11:30] <hondje> klekkus: user will let the person who mounted it umount it, users will let anyone umount it (useful for dvd and cd drives)
[11:30] <Jowi> {{corona}}: by the looks of it, yeah
[11:30] <Jowi> !kernel
[11:30] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:30] <host`> !.deb
[11:30] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[11:30] <klekkus> hondje, i am sory, but i am not very familiar with linux, what do you sugest me to edit in that line; /dev/hda2 /mnt/windows ntfs umask=022 0 0 ? thanks man!
[11:30] <{{corona}}> Jowi: that helped thank you
[11:31] <silvertip257> is there anyone else out there that knows about DSL 3.0.1 and GRUB ?
[11:31] <sureshot> someone ask me what the difference between unix and linux i could not answer what is the difference ???????????
[11:31] <hondje> klekkus: make the umask=022 users,umask=022 and probably mount it read-only by making it ro,users,umask=022
[11:31] <bsdfox> how can I disable firestarter/the firewall? I have it set to not load on boot but I always have to sudo /etc/init.d/firestarter stop   to get my internet working...
[11:31] <zk> helloall - i am behind a proxy and trying to connect to msn using amsn - i have put the proxy details but it keeps saying wrong username or password. i have tested with lots of msn accounts and none of them work-all give the same error
[11:31] <Renan_s2> sureshot, Linux is a version of UNIX
[11:31] <dewelder> i have just installed ubuntu a few days ago and im hooked
[11:31] <zk> my msn works with gaim though but i need to use webcam hence i am trying amsn
[11:31] <zk> pls someone help me
[11:31] <hondje> No, Linux is a 'work-alike', not a version of unix
[11:31] <AVS588> when i connect to my router on my network computer the name that apper is unknown how can i change that?
[11:32] <Samuli^> klekkus, umask=222 me thinks, you don't want to enable writing on ntfs.
[11:32] <klekkus> hondje, thanks, ill try that:)
[11:32] <AVS588> when i connect to my router on my network computer the name that apper is unknown how can i change that?
[11:32] <silvertip257> is there *anyone* else out there that knows about DSL 3.0.1 and GRUB ?
[11:33] <pike_> sureshot: if you /j freebsd and ask that you might get some more colorful answers :)
[11:33] <dewelder> john r u in here yet
[11:33] <crippy> sureshot,  Linux is a 'unix-like' os, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIX-like might be an interesting read for ya
 could you please go to #damnsmalllinux
[11:34] <MoDoco> can anyone tell of a web site that I can go to, on issues of system shut down
[11:34] <tecta> anyone use mythtv?
[11:34] <AVS588> when i connect to my router on my network computer the name that apper is unknown how can i change that?
[11:34] <klekkus> hondje, thanks, i dont want to write to it, just read, so your help was like sent from an angel, big thanks to you lord:D:D:D
[11:34] <silvertip257> atlef no one is in the DSL channel that will respond !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:34] <sureshot> thanks pike_  i will do that ... dont like to look weak in front of the wife LOL all the braggon about linux could not tell her the difference hehehe
[11:34] <sureshot> thanks crippy
[11:34] <MoDoco> dewelder I am
[11:35] <crippy> silvertip257, Whats the problem, i may or may not be able to help
[11:35] <dewelder> modoco
[11:35] <dewelder> what is that short for
[11:35] <ompaul> silvertip257, it is closer to knoppix or kanotix than ubuntu
 why should anyone here respond?
[11:35] <silvertip257> atlef get off my case plz...if ur not gonna help leave me alone
[11:35] <silvertip257> ok crippy
[11:35] <MoDoco> mo. dept. of corrections
[11:35] <MoeRL> Ubuntu installed and is running well on my system.. except for the graphics. When I resize a window or click around, I notice a tiny delay.. in fact, when I resize, the box I'm resizing is stuttering... and I don't know how to get Ubuntu to perform smoothly as it should.
[11:35] <zk> helloall - i am behind a proxy and trying to connect to msn using amsn - i have put the proxy details but it keeps saying wrong username or password. i have tested with lots of msn accounts and none of them work-all give the same error
[11:35] <zk> my msn works with gaim though but i need to use webcam hence i am trying amsn
[11:35] <zk> pls someone help me
[11:35] <zk> PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE
[11:35] <zk> :)
[11:35] <dewelder> im sorry modoco i should of realized there may be more rthan one john in here lol
[11:36] <silvertip257> crippy:  what i've got is 2 partitions 1 Linux, 2 Linux swap
[11:36] <bsdfox> MoeRL, what video card?
[11:36] <motin> how to i change my vino-server password from over a ssh connection?
[11:36] <MoeRL> ATI Mobility Radeon 9600/9700
[11:36] <pike_> zk: you might have better luck searching ubuntuforums.org
[11:36] <silvertip257> crippy:  i've gone through the installation process, but it will not boot, my first almost successful time it looked like it locked up when it said GRUB in the boot up
[11:36] <bsdfox> you probably need to install a driver
[11:37] <ompaul> zk, your repeats don't help - you had the right idea in one line the other stuff got you muted please wait 10 minutes if noone knows ask again at that stage thanks
[11:37] <silvertip257> crippy:  now all it does is say OS not found, but DSL is on there
[11:37] <MoeRL> right
[11:37] <MoeRL> but where are the instructions for that..
[11:37] <MoeRL> and which driver?
 have you look at this http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/index.php/Installing_Grub
[11:37] <crippy> silvertip257, Sounds like the MBR is buggered, Try using super grub disk or boot DSL and install GRUB
[11:38] <MoDoco>  can anyone tell of a web site that I can go to, on issues of system shut down
[11:38] <pike_> MoDoco: what sort of issues?
[11:38] <silvertip257> crippy, how do i do that?  I've booted DSL to live CD & installed it
[11:38] <MoeRL> the only other issue I had was when I tried to update Opera from 9.01 to 9.02, I couldn't do it. Ubuntu kept telling me there's a conflict with an already installed package..
[11:38] <ciphernemo> Does ubuntu dapper with a 2.6.15 kernel already have/support PAM version 0.79?
[11:38] <mumbles> why dosent my laptop see my own network ?
[11:38] <MoeRL> But the graphics issue is more important.
[11:39] <Shadow_mil> how can I step up my sound higher
[11:39] <JohnLemon> ifconfig
[11:39] <ompaul> silvertip257, you are offtopic please read the dsl pages if they don't rock your boat
[11:39] <Shadow_mil> I have it maxed out and can barely here it
[11:39] <pike_> Shadow_mil: in a terminal type alsamixer is it maxed in that?
[11:39] <ompaul> silvertip257, there is nothing we can do for you
[11:39] <silvertip257> ompaul crippy is helpin me ... ok ?
[11:40] <ompaul> do it in pm
[11:40] <Shadow_mil> pike_: thanks :)
[11:40] <ompaul> please
[11:40] <gnomefreak> or in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:40] <MoeRL> ...
[11:40] <crippy> silvertip, this may not work but try mounting your hard drive from the dsl live cd (sudo mkdir /mnt/dsl, sudo mount /dev/hda1 or whatever partition it is) then chroot to /mnt/dsl and try grub-install /dev/hda
[11:40] <MoDoco> have installed ubuntu, have installed nvidia-glx, everything works great, have splash screen , hardware excel. works fine , but when I shut down, the screen goes crazy, and the system locks up
[11:41] <gnomefreak> crippy: in pm or #ubuntu-offtopic please dont help him in this channel
[11:41] <ompaul> crippy, please take that to pm
[11:41] <ciphernemo> Does ubuntu dapper with a 2.6.15 kernel already have/support PAM version 0.79?
[11:41] <crippy> silvertip sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/dsl sorry
[11:41] <MoeRL> I have no patience for this. Off I go to install Vista :D
[11:41] <crippy> ompaul, ok
[11:41] <crippy> silvertip257, if you still need help, pm me
[11:42] <atlef> MoeRL> 5744?
[11:42] <MoeRL> it's out?
[11:42] <ciphernemo> MoeRL: lol, if that was supposed to be a threat to us Linux users... try harder :)
[11:42] <MoeRL> crap
[11:42] <Klowner> anyone know if there's a way to install ubuntu from a usbkey? :)
[11:42] <MoeRL> no thread, ciphernemo :D
[11:42] <atlef> yep
[11:42] <pike_> MoDoco: best source for me on stuff like that is ubuntuforums.org for instance http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157067&highlight=nvidia+shutdown
[11:42] <MoeRL> why would you care what I install, lol
[11:42] <MoeRL> all I'm trying to do is make my Ubuntu run smoother in the graphics department.
[11:42] <fluxinator> Klowner some work is involved
[11:42] <MoeRL> Latest I have is 5728.
[11:42] <MoeRL> I think.
[11:43] <JohnLemon> klowner> much slower as well
[11:43] <ciphernemo> Does ubuntu dapper already have/support PAM version 0.79?
[11:43] <gnomefreak> !usb
[11:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:43] <gnomefreak> !install
[11:43] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:44] <KenSentMe> ciphernemo: what's pam?
[11:44] <gnomefreak> !pam
[11:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:44] <Klowner> JohnLemon: I'm not too concerned about the speed of an installation
[11:44] <ciphernemo> KenSentMe: The rlimits method is the preferred method and is included in Linux 2.6.12 and above. Unfortunately, you need PAM version 0.79 or above, which may not be supported by your distribution yet.
[11:44] <pike_> poor ubotu hes not dpkg..
[11:44] <ompaul> KenSentMe, it is an auth module
[11:44] <KenSentMe> gnomefreak: doesn't always work :P
[11:44] <fluxinator> Klowner https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[11:44] <hondje> ciphernemo: yeah
[11:44] <ciphernemo> hondje: thx
[11:44] <robbbb> whats the app that configures gdm called?
[11:44] <hondje> ciphernemo: /lib/libpam.so.0.79
[11:45] <gnomefreak> KenSentMe: its set to use !info if it cant find the package
[11:45] <ciphernemo> hondje: thx again :)
[11:45] <hondje> :)
[11:45] <ompaul> robbbb, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[11:45] <Klowner> fluxinator: ah slick, thank you
[11:45] <fluxinator> np
[11:45] <robbbb> i mean to change the theme etc
[11:45] <ompaul> robbbb, system preferences theme is one way
[11:46] <SkramX> I am trying to burn the 6.06 ISO.. but Nautilus says it is 707Mib so I can't burn it to a regular CD-RW?!
[11:46] <robbbb> yeah i need to know the command. i dont use gnome
[11:46] <robbbb> doh
[11:47] <ompaul> robbbb, do you want update-alternatives or gconf-editor
[11:47] <SkramX> ?
[11:47] <pike_> SkramX: umm that doesnt sound right :) have you compared the md5sum to the one on ubuntu.com ?
[11:47] <robbbb> cool cheers
[11:47] <SkramX> ahh.. i dont want to have to download it again :(
[11:47] <Megaqwerty> Can anyone tell me how I can share files from my computer with windows computers?
[11:47] <Jowi> robbbb: i think that you're looking for gdmconfig
[11:47] <musti> anybody know howto get wine with adept? it can't fine it
[11:48] <ompaul> SkramX, do a bittorrent download it will correct errors in your downloaded one
[11:48] <SkramX> bit torrent is possibly slower
[11:48] <robbbb> jowi : i cant find gdmconfig
[11:48] <Admiral_Chicago> !wine > musti
[11:48] <gnomefreak> robbbb: sudo update-alternatives --config gdm?
[11:49] <root> hello?
[11:49] <KenSentMe> root: hi
[11:49] <hondje> !samba > Megaqwerty
[11:49] <Jowi> robbbb: gdmsetup ?
[11:49] <gnomefreak> robbbb: if you want to change the theme you need to use whatever display manager setup to do that
[11:49] <robbbb> gnomefreak: nope - no alternaltives
[11:49] <SkramX> okay downloading again... 30 minutes
[11:49] <gnomefreak> robbbb: what are you running?
[11:49] <MoDoco> pike, that site may help, thank you
[11:49] <robbbb> enlightenment
[11:49] <robbbb> e17
[11:49] <gnomefreak> robbbb: enlightenment using gdm
[11:49] <robbbb> yeah
[11:50] <Megaqwerty> Thanks
[11:50] <root> KenSentMe hey my dsktptop environment doenst work i amnot sure what video driver i shooult take because it a verry ld one what couldi do?
[11:51] <gnomefreak> robbbb: the alternatives wont help cause you only have one installed you need to run gcon-editor
[11:51] <gnomefreak> gconf-editor
[11:51] <Jowi> root: "vesa" should work with any card
[11:51] <robbbb> gnomefreak: yeah thats pretty lame though eh. i cant import themes etc with that
[11:51] <root> Jowivesawontwork
[11:51] <root> Jowi vesawont work
[11:51] <gnomefreak> robbbb: we didnt tell you to install a very lightweight de either
[11:52] <mumbles> haha it works it works
[11:52] <mumbles> is there s tell bot here ?
[11:52] <lucaz___> Can I choose wich files do I wanna get in a torrent, using btdownload??
[11:52] <robbbb> gnomefreak: correct
[11:52] <gnomefreak> robbbb: you want extras you dont install something that light
[11:52] <gnomefreak> brb dinner
[11:52] <Jowi> root: what resolution are you trying?
[11:52] <pike_> !ubotu
[11:52] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:52] <root> Jowigood one ill search it out
[11:53] <jtholmes> JoshIRL: you still around
[11:53] <mumbles> |tell gortiz about http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear that should make the card work
[11:54] <mike-ekim> wtf, why does firefox go so slow...
[11:54] <mike-ekim> this is annoying me
[11:55] <josh_> how do i mount a samba drive?
[11:55] <pike_> root: worst case you should be able to recover with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ..well ok thats kindof a best case
[11:55] <josh_> mount -t smb://path/to/share?
[11:55] <josh_> lol pike
[11:56] <ompaul> mike-ekim, so first off what speed processor have you got with how much ram, video ram, kde or gnome, and are you on ipv6?
[11:56] <josh_> ubotu: tell josh_ about mounting samba shares
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mounting samba shares - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <Daverto> My installation dosen't work
[11:56] <root> Jowie it gives errors about mouse core deveises missing the resolution is set to800*600 atm
[11:56] <ruda> howdy n00bs!
[11:57] <josh_> anyone ever mount a samba drive?
[11:57] <Daverto> my new installation does not want to start
[11:57] <robbbb> how easy is it to change the boot splash screen?
[11:57] <mike-ekim> ompaul: im on 750mhz with about 256 ram
[11:57] <pike_> robbbb: a grub spash or the ubuntu spash?
[11:57] <Jowi> root: so the problem is that xorg won't find the mouse. nothing to do with the resolution or driver. how is your mouse connected?
[11:58] <robbbb> ubuntu splash i guess
[11:58] <loper06> hey all. i have a dynamic ip from my isp and i own my domain name from godaddy. how can i point my domain to my box @ home? will a dns server do the job?
[11:58] <Subhuman> robbbb, yes
[11:58] <Subhuman> look for "custom usplash"
[11:58] <Subhuman> !usplash
[11:58] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[11:58] <Subhuman> or there *
[11:58] <robbbb> cool cheers
[11:58] <ompaul> mike-ekim, so that is one hungry application, lets try one thing in the " address bar" please type>> about:config <<less the pointers hit enter and let us know when that is done
[11:58] <root> ehhh what was that name again no usb noserial
[11:59] <Jowi> loper06: you would probably have a control setting at your preferences at godaddy (or whereever you'rea leasing your domain-name from)
[11:59] <ompaul> !bootoptions
[11:59] <ubotu> For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[11:59] <ompaul> root, ^^
[12:00] <mike-ekim> ompaul: a lot of data came out
[12:00] <Daverto> My computer goes to a black screen after just installing Ubuntu, What do I do?
[12:00] <Jowi> loper06: with a dynamic ip it can be a mess changing it since an update for the domain->ip can take a day or two
[12:00] <pike_> Daverto: if you hit alt-ctrl-f1 do you get a login prompt?
[12:00] <Jowi> Daverto: turn off the framebuffer
[12:01] <loper06> Jowi: so u would not recommend that i setup a dns.