=== marseillai_ is now known as marseillai [12:18] ehh [12:18] kate crashes when I click the text [12:19] has something to do with that line hinting [12:21] 3.5.5 ey? [12:22] yes [12:22] ya, i think tonio has a fix ready for it [12:22] ah I see [12:23] weird that didn't happen before I started play with colours [12:23] ya, he warned before upgrading yesterday..that is how i knew the kde version [12:24] =) [12:29] Tm_T: Did you make a package of serenity? [12:29] sebas: nope [12:29] Bummer :) [12:30] sebas: why you ask? afraid to compile/make package yourself? [12:30] Exactly [12:30] I feel that I've screwed enough already [12:30] I could do package for some testers but no way I take any responsibility of it =) [12:30] Things kinda work now [12:30] I would blame someone else if you do, deal? :) [12:30] =) [12:31] sebas: just compile and install it, it's plain simple [12:31] I've probably all the -dev crap installed anyway, yes. [12:34] imbrandon_: seems to work here i removed and installed k-d-s and ran sudo update-initramfs -u and still have ubuntu splash [12:35] heh, you know what i find annoying...the fact my monitor goes into power saving mode, and my screensaver starts...and both of these are unchecked, so that they don't happen [12:35] nixternal: Might be my fault. [12:35] it has been doing it since the first day i downloaded edgy..well the screensaver just started ;) [12:36] i don't know why it is annoying...as it happens when i am using the other computrer anyways ;) === orkid__ [n=orkid__@bas1-barrie18-1242373519.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:37] displayconfig might manipulate your dpms setting. [12:38] It does not touch the screensaver, however. [12:38] That could be powermanager doing so [12:38] ~/.kde/share/config/displayconfigrc [12:38] Is there something DPMS related in there? [12:38] lemme look [12:39] dpmsEnabled=off [12:39] dpmsSeconds=18000 [12:39] Hm, that looks fine. [12:40] 18000 = 5 hours...which is what displayconfig shows, and it is off there, but it still shuts the monitor down [12:40] Can you check the actual dpms setting with xset ? [12:40] xset q [12:41] DPMS (Energy Star): [12:41] Standby: 30928 Suspend: 30928 Off: 30928 [12:41] DPMS is Disabled [12:42] Looks sane from a "bug in displayconfig" point of view. [12:42] Does displayconfig-restore switch on dpms? [12:42] i wonder if it is a bug, or if during an upgrade something went silly [12:42] hmm..let me try [12:42] (It should not with your settings) [12:43] no, it didn't change it [12:43] Hm, good. [12:43] Then it's probably something else [12:44] In the meantime I've had a look at powermanager, I don't think it switches on kscreensaver [12:44] it only sets it to blankonly when on battery [12:44] ya, i just got a great white X on a blacked out background [12:44] Ouch. === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-056-227-164.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian2 [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:22] http://nixternal.ubuntu-rocks.org/tmp/x.jpg [01:22] it isn't a screensaver..i thought it was [01:23] it is a broken something or other ;) [01:32] sweet, never considered putting stickers on my monitor, now I have a spot for mine :) [01:33] lol === claydoh is usually anti-sticker, anti-advertising [01:34] i guess you are anti-gotta-make-some-money [01:34] ;) [01:34] no [01:34] just don't like stickers on stuff mostly :) [01:34] the mrs on the other hand.... [01:35] ya me either..but stickers on my puters, monitors, and lappies are a must...its my way of advertising [01:35] bumper stickers, window decals, vanity plates, door magnets [01:35] lol [01:36] well if i had a lappy, id probably put one, not too big or not too small [01:36] bumper stickers on the bumpter == no for me..but a small decal for the window i will do [01:37] but she is advertizing dog agility and flyball, so I have to deal with the dog-mobile [01:37] heh...gnome is junk...i am copying over some files, from ~/downloads to ~/downloads/tmp using the File Browser, and it crashes...the Bug Reporting Tool, aka Bug Buddy pops up for DC/DVD Copying [01:38] heh [01:38] I have not installed gnome in a while [01:39] hmm [01:39] no wonder gnome has more "bug duplication" than anyother bug monitoring suite...you fill out that info and it creates a bug report [01:40] well...i am running edubuntu on another setup for testing as well [01:40] edubuntu should be KDE anyways [01:40] more than 75% of the packages are KDE Edu i think [01:53] flyball? === orkid__ [n=mike@74.13.29.143] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:16] orkid__: http://www.flyballdogs.com/, and the team: http://www.flyballdogs.com/flyball_maineiacs/ === claydoh is slowly replacing the Frontage web with something more useful [02:22] ic [02:36] ooooh === claydoh likes serenity deco and style === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@221.221.148.180] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121n9u.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-42-144.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@221.221.153.249] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@d51A4819D.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@221.221.150.50] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ingmar [n=ingmar@d51A4819D.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === orkid__ [n=orkid__@74.13.29.143] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@221.221.146.214] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt__ [n=jack@221.221.154.255] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm238.omega16.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@221.221.147.129] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@221.221.153.78] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.64.118] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@221.221.153.78] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:29] konversation 1.0.1 is out - bug fixer upper === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:42] hey all [07:44] hi === DaSkreech [n=skreech@port0002-abm-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@221.221.144.204] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:33] morning all [08:33] hi [08:34] sivang: hey [08:34] hey dudes [08:35] sivang: Have I met you before? [08:36] DaSkreech: I'm not sure, do you recall where? :) [08:36] Here? :) [08:38] DaSkreech: probably, but I've only been logged in the channel for long recently, I'm exploting the Kubuntu grounds ;) [08:38] Is that like postploting? :) [08:39] hey sivang [08:40] hi Hobbsee ! [08:40] DaSkreech: I would know, if I had known what postploting is :-) [08:41] ah crap, right === DaSkreech isn't sure what exploting is [08:41] "I'm *Exploring* Kubuntu grounds" [08:41] DaSkreech: ^^ [08:41] :) [08:41] Ahhhh :) [08:41] Welkome. [08:42] Edgy? [08:43] Mann no Kiwii [08:43] He almost got one of my friends (who is a Kard karrying KDE hater) tio use Kubuntu [08:45] DaSkreech: who did? [08:45] Hobbsee: Is there a plan to have systemm mesages show(able) for the new splash [08:46] DaSkreech: no idea. i think the plan is to have it quiet [08:46] sivang: Ken He's doing the artwork for the new Kubuntu [08:46] Hobbsee: It's distracting :( [08:47] I find myself staring at it every time wondering if something is going to fail or wondering if it has failed arleady === DaSkreech feels like he's back on a Windows box :( [08:49] DaSkreech: ah right, Ken, I met him over the last UDS :) [08:49] Mucho respect for him :) [08:51] Hobbsee: Well guess I'll register a mild protest Monday [08:51] hehe === Hobbsee is going to register a major protest on monday if benc doesnt get her fix it. [08:51] s/it/in === _froud_ [n=froud@dsl-145-26-85.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:56] Which fix? [08:59] DaSkreech: the bug makes all toshiba notebooks unbootable in normal mode from the -8 and up kernels. [08:59] Ah A big with pinchers [09:01] morning [09:01] Bug even [09:05] hey mhb [09:06] Why isn't Xen in Edgy? [09:06] it should be there [09:06] !find xen edgy [09:06] Found: gtk-engines-xenophilia, libc6-xen, libexene-smlnj, libjaxen-java, libroxen-123session (and 107 others) [09:06] !xen [09:06] XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy [09:07] Oh I menat on by default [09:07] it's there [09:07] DaSkreech: think about it. [09:07] DaSkreech: cd space [09:07] for a start [09:07] Right one Cd Distro :-( [09:07] Knoppix has been cussing about that since pre 4.0 :) [09:08] there's a installation dvd as well, isn't it? [09:09] mhb, sure but its the same install as the cd ( just has a few extra packages on the dvd but not installed ) [09:09] Yeah but not all people have a DVD [09:10] DaSkreech, that is a weak argument, the lowend systems ( less than $500 ) sold 3 years ago have dvd players [09:10] bah [09:22] hmm, upgrading Dapper->Edgy is still a pain :oI [09:25] mhb: why? [09:28] mhb: hehe, thought it might be. what are the errors? [09:31] some locale trouble, then krita needed a krita-base package which wasn't installed, then /etc/qt3/qt_plugins_3.3rc was created in Dapper by a script and in Edgy it's provided in the package (or so the apt said) [09:31] I'm still waiting for the kubuntu-desktop to install :o) it takes more time in a VM [09:46] gah. [09:46] my laptop's hitting 75C and i'm just browsing the web! === pascalFR [i=QuhV3ZQT@cha92-7-82-230-174-61.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-129-116.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _Sime wonders if today is a good day to upgrade his primary 'workstation' from dapper to edgy... === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@221.221.153.174] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:04] _Sime: do it! === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.228.124] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:14] hey Riddell , what's up? [11:16] woot , http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25950/ === imbrandon dances [11:18] <_Sime> Riddell: are the nVidia drivers in order in edgy? === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-057-252-073.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:26] _Sime: no idea I'm afraid [11:26] sivang: we're just trying to wake sladen up to get him to meeting on tim [11:26] time [11:28] <_Sime> Riddell: I might upgrade sometime this week while I'm at work, and when Debbie doesn't need anything being served from my computer... === _Sime wants to play Neverwinter Nights today. [11:33] Riddell: heh [11:33] Riddell: kubuntu meetin I suppose? === \sh_away is now known as \sh [11:40] Riddell: I can't reproduce a bug, and many others can't too, shall I reject it, but the reporter insist that he can reproduce === GreyStar [n=SoS@cpe-72-181-114-83.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #Kubuntu-Devel [11:42] <\sh> freeflying: which one? :) [11:43] \sh: malone #35760 [11:43] Malone bug 35760 in scim-qtimm "Only 1 konsole session with transparency" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/35760 [11:47] freeflying: that means there is something he forgot to mention [11:47] freeflying: IMHo [11:49] seems \sh use de's locale [11:49] \sh: do you use de's locale? [11:49] <\sh> or his default profile is not set to transparent and his settings are not working [11:49] <\sh> I'll try to reproduce [11:49] \sh: thanks [11:51] sorry, that guy use da_DK, so anyone here use this? thanks [11:52] freeflying: it's not that hard to install it, is it? [11:53] mhb: sure :) [11:54] freeflying: I'll take a look [11:55] <\sh> hmmm [11:55] mhb: thanks [11:56] <\sh> hmmm [11:56] <\sh> I set one scheme to transparent [11:56] <\sh> saved it as "shell" default (which is my default) [11:56] <\sh> restared console, first shell is transparent, second is black [11:57] same by me [11:57] \sh: actrually, when he use da_DK locale, scim stuffs will not be loaded [11:57] first one transparent, second one black [11:57] mooh, also, if you start konsole, tabbar isn't showing even when it's set to [11:57] <\sh> freeflying: i think for de_DE it won't be loaded as well [11:57] until you play back and forth those settings === mhb will be back after lunch [11:58] <\sh> freeflying: at least I don't see any scim/skim icon in my panel [11:58] \sh: sure :) [11:59] <\sh> I think it's more a konsole bug then scim/skim foo === [niceday] [n=daniel@87.100.54.106] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon_ [n=imbrando@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === silver_hook [n=matija@BSN-61-66-55.dsl.siol.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:33] Hi, I have a slight problem - I need to know (for an article in TUX) how to install Kopete 0.12.1 (or newer) in Kubuntu with Adept ...and I'm a Gentoo user (and they don't want to hear about compiling :P) === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.176.138] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger__ is now known as hunger [12:38] silver_hook: hmm.. there is http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kopete/ but i think it's 0.12.0 [12:40] hah. found it. imbrandon made some dapper packages. === X-CRiPt51 [n=x-cript5@105.Red-83-54-44.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:40] http://imbrandon.com/packages/pool/dapper/kopete/ [12:41] fdoving: thanks :) [12:42] Is this then done in Adapt? The TUX editors are awfully strict when it comes to complete noobie-friendliness :S [12:42] ok, hang on then. [12:42] i'll explain how i would do it. [12:43] thanks :) === \sh is now known as \sh_away [12:51] Is a question from apt-get while upgrading considered as a bug? [12:51] mhb: depends on what question, I guess? [12:52] apt-get says during Dapper->Edgy upgrade that the file /etc/qt3/qt_plugins_3.3rc was created by a script (or by me) but is present in package libqt3-mt so it expects me to choose an action [12:52] if I did that through Adept that would mean the installation would stop [12:53] and you would have to then open "Show Details" and choose (N is without problems here) [12:53] mhb: not really. it would just "seem" to stop, but if you click on "Show Details" you'll see the same prompt/question [12:53] er... yeah :) [12:53] silver_hook: ok, open adept manager (kmenu -> system -> adept manager) [12:53] it's the same as Synaptic, though [12:54] Jucato: yep, but do you think we cannot avoid it by "fixing" the file in the package ? === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:55] silver_hook: actually, you might be better off with this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu [12:55] fdoving: you just keep talking - i'm on Gentoo, I just need to know and write how to do it :S [12:55] fdoving: thanks, will do :) [12:55] silver_hook: or, rarther https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu#head-9a7a4519857af012ff775e9c0f15fbce60173676 [12:55] mhb: I wouldn't really know. There are times when APT really needs to asks questions, like when kdm is being upgraded. I don't think "fixing" would be appropriate in that sense [12:56] silver_hook: just replace "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main" with "deb http://imbrandon.com/packages dapper kopete" [12:56] fdoving: thanks again :) [12:56] silver_hook: that should be about it. [12:57] Jucato: yes, the bad thing is that the user won't notice it until he opens the details [12:57] mhb: yeah. it's the same with Synaptic actually [12:57] I think a better solution would probably to have Adept automatically show the details when user confirmation is needed. [01:00] Jucato: keeping the old configuration file won't do any harm either (in this case) [01:03] hmm.. adept -> manage repositories doesnt't work on edgy.. [01:03] fdoving: sadly [01:04] that's a regression from dapper. [01:04] fdoving: kde 133388 [01:04] KDE bug 133388 in general "Manage Repositories is disabled" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133388 [01:04] regression from dapper? [01:04] i found it. [01:05] fdoving: IIRC Jonathan said he'll look at it [01:06] good.. i'm getting nervous about this.. :| [01:07] prism2_usb module missing, adept manage repositores doesn't work, apt-index-watcher eats 100% cpu sometimes.. etc. [01:08] fdoving: still loving adept? :) [01:08] but seriously, adept really needs *a lot* of loving [01:08] Jucato: i (almost) never use it. [01:08] ok, s/love/like [01:08] Jucato: +1 and I think everyone know that :o) [01:08] i've used apt-get for almost 5 years, can't even get myself to start using aptitude. [01:09] heh === Jucato loves using aptitude because he loves to remove stuff he installed 5-10 minutes earlier === silver_hook is away now. === silver_hook has returned. === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:27] mhb: kubuntu finished installing yet? [01:28] Hobbsee: yes, in a way [01:28] mhb: how much damage? [01:28] Hobbsee: I upgraded and added kubuntu-desktop [01:29] mhb: right, yep [01:29] Hobbsee: then I restarted and now I'm left with a black screen when X should start [01:29] mhb: what brand is the laptop? [01:29] Hobbsee: it's a virtual machine [01:29] true that [01:31] mhb: boot in it's recovery mode, and grab /var/log/syslog? [01:31] and pastebin it somewhere? [01:31] Hobbsee: right away [01:31] mhb: sounds good [01:33] hmm, recovery mode booted fine, seems it's some X trouble [01:33] Jucato: ping? [01:34] Hobbsee: pong [01:34] Jucato: type /sysinfo ? [01:34] Sysinfo for 'ark': Linux 2.6.15-27-k7 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: AMD Sempron 2200+ at 1500 MHz (3003 bogomips), HD: 26/73GB, RAM: 577/1010MB, 114 proc's, 1.29h up [01:34] I'm on Dapper [01:35] Jucato: how do you feel like testing 3.5.5 for us? on dapper? [01:35] Jucato: i think you're the first dapper tester we've got for this [01:35] er... right now? [01:35] I'd hate to turn you down... but probably tomorrow afternoon? [01:36] Jucato: want to add "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355/ dapper main" to your sources list, so that you can get it the next time you update anyway? [01:36] that way neither you or i cant forget :) [01:36] s/cant/can/ [01:36] don't worry, I have really planned to try out 3.5.5 [01:36] Hobbsee: ultra-weird, booted fine with recovery mode, even "kdm" worked [01:37] (actually to use it only after it's been announced, but what the heck :P) [01:37] mhb: pastebin the dodgy syslog somewhere :) [01:37] !pastebin [01:37] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things) [01:38] Jucato: testing asap so we find the bugs quickly before the official release of it would be good. we've already found some in the edgy edition [01:38] Jucato: and you're one of the few people who are still running dapper regularly in here. :) [01:39] hah! === toma is now known as toma_ [01:39] i'm serious :) [01:39] well, it's not as if you're going to fix it if there are bugs :P === Jucato remembers KDE 3.5.4 bugs... [01:40] j/k of course [01:40] yes I'll definitely try it out tomorrow. right now, my sister is bugging me on transferring her files from my PC to her laptop... [01:40] and I have no idea how to do it... [01:40] okay. you might want to add the repo now anyway [01:40] (she's on XP) [01:41] er....good point [01:41] you'll have to share your drive, then access it from hers [01:41] oh, wait. you can share hers via samba [01:41] Jucato: and then just copy the files over [01:41] as long as you dont try to modify them, iirc === Hobbsee has done that before, on the study machine. [01:41] Hobbsee: the files are quite huge.... [01:42] it stalls when I'm copying [01:42] Jucato: idiot question warning: there's enough space? and are you trying to copy via wifi or wired? [01:42] ie, ethernet or something? [01:43] Hobbsee: wired ethernet 10/100mbps. of course there's enough space (brand new laptop :P) === Jucato wishes it was possible to just use ssh and sftp.. :( [01:44] I'm a complete networking noob so I don't know if I'm doing things right anyway lol === Hobbsee wonders about putty [01:44] weird, i wonder why they freeze... === Hobbsee regularly copies a 700mb tarball from her laptop to the XP study computer === silver_hook is away now. [01:44] Hobbsee: what's the ethernet speed? [01:45] silver_hook: could you please turn off the /away message? [01:45] Jucato: dont remember. something like that [01:45] er... ok... well, my situation is a bit more complicated than it seems.. [01:45] Hobbsee: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25964/ current syslog [01:45] XP is connected to Linux via just a multi-port modem (not sure if it's a router), using IP masquerading [01:50] mhb: hmmm. i dont know sorry. i'm not good at reading them === silver_hook has returned. [01:55] Jucato: sorry, didn't know it was against chan policy [01:55] I thought you got fdoving's message earlier. [01:55] !away [01:55] Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'. We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines [01:57] silver_hook: it is amongst all *ubuntu* related channels :) [01:57] Hobbsee: not being an ubuntu user, i wouldn't know ..but still, sorry , won't happen again [01:57] :) [01:57] silver_hook: ahhhhhh :) where do you fit? [01:57] gentoo [01:58] right :) [01:58] i'm on ubuntu because of "official" business ;) [01:58] hehe [01:58] TUX business [01:58] silver_hook: ooh. can i ask what sort? [01:58] er.. noobish question... how can I know the local IP of my Linux box? (trying vsftpd) [01:59] Jucato: ifconfig, usually [01:59] yea, not only do the favour KDE (which i'm ok with), but also Ubuntu ...so I have to write in my articles how to install stuff in ubuntu ..i'm having problems with telling them how to install kopete-0.12.1 [01:59] anyway ..i'm off ironing for an hour or so [02:00] Hobbsee: which one? eth0's entry is indecipherable, lo is 127.0.0.1, and ppp0 changes everytime I reconnect/reboot [02:01] silver_hook: in dapper? enable the backports. [02:01] in edgy, kopete 0.12.2 is there [02:01] Hobbsee: err.. not yet [02:02] Jucato: ahh. [02:02] you better poke someone :P [02:03] silver_hook: say "backports is still a work in progress. that's where the updated packages are, but they arent supported by cannonical, the same way that main or universe is. the latest is in edgy. 0.12.3 doesnt contain security fixes, and those are the only things being updated in dapper apart from backports" [02:03] or something to that effect [02:03] bug 64225 [02:03] Malone bug 64225 in f-spot "F-spot" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64225 [02:04] sorry, I had a little accident here :o) [02:06] I'll come back later when my laptop is available again ... cya [02:06] Hobbsee: don't worry ..imbrandon's on the case [02:06] silver_hook: ahh, right, so i wont do the yelling. === Hobbsee stops being lazy and starts sending kopete bugs upstream. [02:17] !seen jk* [02:17] gah. what's his nick? [02:17] ? [02:19] Jucato: i spoke with a guy a couple of weeks or so ago, but lost a lot of my logs === Hobbsee will email him. [02:19] oh.. [02:20] Hobbsee: good thing you asked me to test KDE 3.5.5 now. I was planning to reformat :P [02:21] Jucato: :) [02:21] i didnt think it was that unstable, myself [02:21] unlike kde 3.5.0 beta2 [02:21] or as buggy as KDE 3.5.4? :) [02:22] but I'm not sure if my system is a good testing ground... but then again, the only thing I've installed from source is kdissert :P [02:23] Jucato: heh === Hobbsee shrugs [02:23] i didnt see too many bugs in 3.5.4 [02:23] kpersonalizer, hal, system settings, anti-aliasing, just to name a few [02:24] that and you had to actually dist-upgrade rather than just upgrade to 3.5.4? [02:24] you did anyway [02:24] you usually do [02:24] good point [02:25] well the previous updates didn't need a dist-upgrade. only 3.5.4 because kdelibs4-bin needs to be removed [02:25] are there ppc debs for 3.5.5 ? [02:27] oh, where did you guys hide the docs for the "Documentation" tab in Quanta? (PHP, CSS, HTML, DocBook, etc?) === el [n=konversa@port-83-236-238-37.static.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:28] fdoving: not that i know of. i'm not sure, to be honest [02:29] fdoving: seems like there are ppc debs [02:30] Jucato: nice, then i'll try them, thanks for checking (i'm getting lazy, i know) :) [02:31] :p === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:02] Howdy [03:02] hey bddebian [03:02] Heya Hobbsee [03:03] hi bddebian! [03:03] ugh this is hopeless!! [03:04] Heya Jucato === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:38] Hobbsee: meh, it's now reverted ;) [03:38] Tm_T: hmmm? [03:39] that fix I committed [03:39] Tm_T: heh. ohhh... [03:39] oops [03:39] yep [03:39] i see nwo [03:39] oh well, better luck next time =) [03:39] more coffee -> [03:39] yeah [03:39] heh, okay === Hobbsee beds [03:40] night all! [03:40] night Hobbsee [03:47] or, almost [03:47] hehe, i'm getting talked to in #kde-devel. scary [03:47] cheater [03:50] hehe [03:50] yeah, well [03:50] they're not telling me off, suprisingly === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-057-252-073.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apokryphos [n=apokryph@87-194-86-227.bethere.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:28] just a question about repositories. if, for example, I have the online repositories enabled and also the cdrom repository enabled, but I don't have an internet connection, will there be some problems or will APT be smart enough to ignore the online repos and install from the cdrom? === Dinofly_ [n=dinofly@vbo91-1-82-238-217-179.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Enola_Gay [n=enola@ip242.134.1511H-CUD12K-03.ish.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:30] hi all [04:31] Is the Firefox 2.0 restore session issue known? === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.231.249] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:32] Firefox things that every kde session logout was a crash and shows a message on next boot/login if session should restored or a new started. [04:33] It seems to have problems with the kde session manager. [04:37] Enola_Gay: I'm not sure but I found this in Launchpad: bug 60147 sounds similar to what you're saying [04:37] Malone bug 60147 in xfce4-session "saved firefox resumes as if crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/60147 [04:38] Enola_Gay: I can confirm that as well. It's happened since I installed Edgy in a vmware session and everytime I logout or even shutdown the system with firefox open it does that. However, it does that using TabMixPlus in firefox 1.5.0.7 in Dapper as well [04:41] Jucato: thx [04:43] Jucato: yes, you are right, but KDE session manager seems to have the same problem. Should it be reported separately or not? [04:46] Enola_Gay: I just replied to the bug myself. You should/could do the same thing [04:57] Hawkwind: ok, added a comment. I think it should be assigned to Firefox instead. [04:58] Enola_Gay: You can assign it to them too if you want [05:05] Hawkwind: no, it is not my bugreport and maybe the poster doesn't want it. He could do it if he agrees. === el [n=konversa@port-83-236-238-37.static.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio__ [n=tonio@6.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:27] hi all [05:27] Riddell: ping ? [05:28] hi Tonio_ [05:29] hi Jucato [05:29] imbrandon: you didn't commit your kds changes in bzr... [05:29] imbrandon you really should since your changes will be overwritten by next update [05:31] ciao [05:59] hmm, weird [05:59] almost like kdesu was in finnish when all my settings are pointing to en_GB [06:00] time to reboot, my bluetooth is gone wild -> === toma_ is now known as toma === marseillai [n=mars_@AMarseille-256-1-131-152.w90-10.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === orkid__ [n=orkid__@bas1-barrie18-1242373519.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === orkid__ [n=orkid__@bas1-barrie18-1242373519.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-057-252-073.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_ [n=tobias@p54A612F3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nuku [n=nuku@e178112011.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:07] sebas: I think the bug you mentioned in the ML is the kde 135045 which has been resolved (don't know if somebody told you already) [07:07] KDE bug 135045 in general "Crash on various occasions" [Crash,Resolved: fixed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135045 === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.231.249] has joined #kubuntu-devel === [niceday] [n=daniel@87.100.54.106] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.88.22] has joined #kubuntu-devel === silver_hook [n=matija@BSN-61-66-55.dsl.siol.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [07:44] ton [07:44] === rouzic [n=rouzic@187.Red-83-39-21.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:52] quiet here today [07:57] that's because I hve the worst internet ever [07:59] Riddell, heh [07:59] well I spilled water all over my laptop keyboard ... had to dry it all afternoon [07:59] today's a bad day :o) [08:02] i got all the cross compilers to work , now i'm working on getting pbuilder to build packages for other arches [08:03]