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dennistergood for u motorcity!12:10
|lostbyte|dennister, tx12:10
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xwolf-rittap fdoving i was out of disk space...12:10
dennisteri believe i was there when u did that motor...and i suggested u use it in another machine12:10
xwolf-damn kdm wouldn't tell me a thing. i had to install gdm to have that figured out ><12:11
MotorCityMadManafter you try every thing, read the manual12:11
Samuli^that is indeed, what normally happens.12:11
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dennisterlostbyte: I got 3 lines of response to the dmesg command: one about it not loading and two about it disagreeing about the version of the symbol struct_module12:12
xwolf-how do i switch back to kdm as default? hehe12:12
dennisterxwollf! tsk tsk12:12
MotorCityMadManxwolf-: login srceen12:13
dennisterxwolf knows...he's just trying to pull ur leg12:13
dennisternaughty wolf12:13
|lostbyte|dennister, paste the  disagreeing line here.12:13
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dennister msp3400: disagrees about version of symbol struct_module12:14
dennisterI got it tthat message twice12:14
Hawkwindlarson9999: I have it running in vmware and have since early seeders got it12:14
dennisterhi hawkwind12:15
|lostbyte|Hawkwind, hai..12:15
HawkwindHey there dennister and |lostbyte|12:15
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larson9999Hawkwind: your impression so far?12:17
|lostbyte|dennister, PVR-350 card ?12:17
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dennisteralmost: it's a pvr25012:18
Hawkwindlarson9999: Not bad.  Though it's only in vmware so I can build rpms for SoS for Mandriva and nothing more.  I can't checkout the drak3d they have or anything so I can't fully test it12:18
larson9999Hawkwind: i figured as much but thought i'd check.  this box takes rimm and only 256mb.  i don't have any more rimm so i think i'll look for a less memory intensive solution for now anyway.12:19
larson9999i mean it's only got 256 in now.12:20
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rahmetligodd bye everybudy12:21
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xwolf-how do i set kdm as default now that i installed gdm?12:25
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|lostbyte|xwolf-, change it in .. /etc/X11/default-display-manager12:27
dennistersorry motorcity! u were serious..12:28
dennister<-------red in the face12:28
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dennisterto match my font12:29
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|lostbyte|xwolf-, change it in .. /etc/X11/default-display-manager12:31
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xwolf-oh, right12:32
xwolf-thank you.12:32
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dennisterlostbyte? do you know what that dmesg error message was that I pasted?12:34
dennisteri said it was a pvr25012:34
dennisterand this msp problem seems to be fairly common12:35
|lostbyte|dennister, did you follow a guide ?12:35
dennisteryes i do...and i've been making some real progress...hyams with the 4.0 ivtv drivers, ivtvdriver.org...12:35
dennisterlots of em actually12:35
|lostbyte|dennister, link me to the guide.12:36
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dennisterk, but at the ivtv driver section it does link you to another page with newere drivers: http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html12:37
dennisterI did follow that link cause i'm using 4.7 driver set12:37
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dennisteri've also been using the ivtvdriver.org howtos and trying to troubleshoot it12:38
dennisterthrough that, ubuntuforums, ivtv-users mailing list...12:38
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dennister<------has been struggling for 2 days, and making some progress, but...not there yet12:39
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dennisterlots of complaints about msp3400, and no sound, but I can't even get a signal, let alone video or sound, until i get these drivers working12:41
|lostbyte|dennister,  you have done the firmware step.12:41
dennisteryes, that was not a problem12:41
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|lostbyte|dennister, lsmod | grep ivtv         ..?12:42
dennisterdid it first through the ivtvdriver.org site, cause the hyams wasn't working for me, but I finally did get the hyams stuff working12:42
dennisterthe audio part of the hyams stuff that is...k12:42
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dennisterran the command, got nada12:43
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|lostbyte|dennister, sudo modprobe ivtv12:44
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dennistergot a pause, then commandline back...no error message12:45
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|lostbyte|Now dmesg12:45
|lostbyte|and what do the bottom lines say ?12:46
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dennisterafter my usual 9 warnings, it initializing my card, then the end init ivtv12:47
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|lostbyte|dennister, ls -l /dev/video012:48
dennistercrw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 0 2006-10-07 17:45 /dev/video012:49
|lostbyte|dennister, cat /dev/video0 > ~/test.mpg12:51
dennisterthat i was able to do some time ago...got an mpg of static12:51
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zorglu_serious ? there is a mpg directly out of video0 ?12:51
wildchildwhy won't k3b burn avdio data project: unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format  (format is mp3)12:52
dennisterbut then again, i don't have a signal yet12:52
dennisteryes zorglu12:52
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dennisterit's a common troubleshooting technique from ivtvdriver.org12:52
|lostbyte|dennister, you have your card connected to a cable ?12:53
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|lostbyte|or any signal source.12:53
dennisterto a reg cat cable...12:53
dennisterthat's actually from my cable setopbox12:53
dennisterjust like when i was using my other tuner to record tv through windows media center12:54
dennisterbut the other tuner is an ati, and i'm sure i won't be able to get it working in linux12:54
zorglu_wildchild: 'sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3' should fix it12:55
|lostbyte|dennister, i didt try mythtv yet, i use xawtv12:55
dennisterthat's why i bought the haupage12:55
MotorCityMadManhello: where wood one start looking for kde-user-settings ?12:55
dennisterif i can avoid mythtv, great...that's why i downloaded tvtime: to test the ivtvdriver and other progs12:55
|lostbyte|MotorCityMadMan, kcontrol12:55
dennisterthat comes with it, like the lirc and xmltv12:56
|lostbyte|dennister, try installed xawtv12:56
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dennisterbut if the ivtvdrivers don't work now, they won't in xawtv either12:56
|lostbyte|dennister, by static you mean ? what colour ?12:57
|lostbyte|dennister, any sound ?12:57
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dennister"no signal" no sound, nada12:57
|lostbyte|dennister, what about tvtime ?12:57
dennister"ivtv: invalid argument cannot open capture device /dev/video012:58
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dennisterthat's what's at the bottom of tvtime12:58
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|lostbyte|dennister, ls -l /dev/video12:58
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dennister"-su: /dev/video0: permission denied; ls-: no such file or directory"01:00
ranceok I need help with a scanner setup installation problem, I see the scanner being connected while tailing /var/log/messages and dont see any errors, it does look like the scanner is using more than one address, but sane-find-scanner cant find the device, but I know that it does work with the version of sane installed01:00
dennisteror was that | an l (L)?01:01
|lostbyte|l for london01:01
dennistercrw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 0 2006-10-07 17:45 /dev/video001:01
dennisteragain...i did that awhile ago01:02
|lostbyte|dennister, ls -l /dev/video01:02
|lostbyte|notice no "0" at the end.01:02
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dennisteri did, and got the file permission line above01:02
dennisterwith an l for london01:02
sfireI'm having some trouble playing xvid movies... it acts like its playing but it just flys thru them super quick with no video or audio... anyone have a clue what the problem could be?01:03
sfireI'm playing them in kaffeine01:03
MotorCityMadMan|lostbyte|: i'm looking for the kde panel settings. like ? sudo kate /xxx/kde-settings/kde-panel01:03
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|lostbyte|sfire, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs01:04
sfireI'll try that.. thanks |lostbyte|01:04
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dennisterif u have nvidea graphics, get those and linux-restricted, too01:05
|lostbyte|MotorCityMadMan, huh, right click on pannel > configure panel01:05
MotorCityMadManmaybe in a conf file ?01:05
dennisterlibxine-extra-codecs alone didn't work for me01:05
sfire|lostbyte|: that did it... thanks :)01:05
MotorCityMadMan|lostbyte|: i'm looking for the file that stores the settings01:06
dennisterok...great that it did for u :-)01:06
|lostbyte|sfire, np01:06
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|lostbyte|MotorCityMadMan, look in .kde/share/apps/kicker/01:07
dennisterlostbyte? i did the ls -l command again, and once more got the file permissions for the device01:07
dennisterany ideas?01:07
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|lostbyte|do it with sudo..01:08
dennisteri'm in root terminal, so i shouldn't have to01:08
|lostbyte|dennister, according, to the guide. the device is up. bit not functioning.01:08
dennisterok....then why do i have so many more files for the others, like saa7127, than i do for the msp3400?01:09
MotorCityMadMan|lostbyte|: The file or folder  does not exist. do i need to show hidden files ? and how ?01:09
|lostbyte|MotorCityMadMan, konqueror ?01:10
|lostbyte|MotorCityMadMan, view > show hidden files01:10
MotorCityMadMan|lostbyte|: not there under view01:11
dennistersorry, ik know ur very busy lostbyte...helping so many peole01:11
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|lostbyte|MotorCityMadMan, I have it in mine :S ..01:11
|lostbyte|dennister, those modules comes with the kernel.01:12
|lostbyte|nothing to worry about.01:12
MotorCityMadMankonqueror 3.5.201:12
Brydenn33ok need some help01:12
Brydenn33i'm trying to install Audacious01:13
Brydenn33and its saying i need configure: error: Cannot find glib2/gtk2/pango01:13
|lostbyte|:) 3.5.401:13
|lostbyte|MotorCityMadMan, One way is to type in ".kde" at the end of the file:// in your home dir.01:13
dennisterno?  then why won't this file and module load? why are there twice as many saa7127 files on the hdd as there are msp3400 ones?01:13
Torchedwhat games can i play on kubuntu01:14
Brydenn33Torched: you should try downloading Cedega01:14
Brydenn33that program will let you play most mainstream games01:14
Brydenn33they have a pretty large game database01:14
|lostbyte|Torched, Many..01:14
Brydenn33its what i do :)01:14
Torchedhow does it work?01:15
|lostbyte|Torched, sudo apt-cache search games01:15
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Torchedi searched for game in adept |lostbyte|01:15
MotorCityMadMan|lostbyte|: .kde/share/apps/kicker/.kde = no item, no file, no folder01:15
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|lostbyte|Torched, yes, those are all the games. native to linux01:16
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|lostbyte|MotorCityMadMan, /home/<username>/.kde/share/apps/kicker/01:16
Torchedhey a warcraft 2 clone01:16
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|lostbyte|!cedega > Torched01:18
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|lostbyte|!wine > Torched01:18
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Torchedohh ok, it's a wine thing01:18
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MotorCityMadMan|lostbyte|: four folders, all empty01:18
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dennister<----------can't give up when she's soooooooo close01:19
|lostbyte|MotorCityMadMan, /usr/share/apps/kicker/01:19
|lostbyte|dennister, sudo apt-get install xawtv01:20
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dennisterok...bb in a bit01:21
MotorCityMadMan|lostbyte|: what i'm trying to do is clean/clear out old stored commands in run command box01:22
|lostbyte|MotorCityMadMan, open the run box, now01:22
|lostbyte|MotorCityMadMan, and right-click in the text field > Clear history01:23
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MotorCityMadMankick my asa. that easy01:24
|lostbyte|:P kde rocks01:24
MotorCityMadManhear i is tearing my machine apart01:24
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MotorCityMadManparts all over the floor01:25
|lostbyte|good night01:25
MotorCityMadMan|lostbyte|: later01:26
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MotorCityMadManhave a good one and ty01:26
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SeanTaterwill my computer survive without libsdl1.2debian-alsa?01:34
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gpeekThe applications that don't rely on  libsdl1.2debian-alsa will ...01:36
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intelikeyhowto find the kernel that a system is running ?01:38
Samuli^uname -r01:38
SeanTatergpeek: okay thanks01:39
intelikeyno not the version  the actual file01:39
Samuli^or uname..01:39
gpeekuname -a for all info01:39
dennisteri take it lostbyte had to go?01:39
BenjaminGSeanTater, I don't have it installed and the basic kubuntu set-up works fine01:39
intelikeygpeek the file01:39
gpeekthe file?01:39
intelikeyyes the kernel   "vmlinuz*"01:40
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gpeekumm its probably in /boot01:40
dennisterok; i think i've traced the problem back to the make01:40
zorglu_intelikey: parse /boot/grub/menu.lst and the /proc/cmdline, and the uname -r01:40
intelikey: No such file or directory01:40
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intelikey ls: /boot: No such file or directory01:41
zorglu_intelikey: but if you got several vmlinuz of the same version on the same partition with  the same boot option, it is harder :)01:41
dennistersorglu? would you know how to help me fix a make?01:41
dennisterone file didn't get included...01:41
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zorglu_intelikey: how come you got no /boot ?01:41
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zorglu_dennister: ?01:42
zorglu_dennister: dont forget the _ !!! :)01:42
intelikeyzorglu_ mmmm don't know01:42
dennisterwould you know how to help me fix a make? two files wouldn't be part of it01:42
zorglu_intelikey: /boot partition which isnt mounted ?01:42
zorglu_hmm even worst you got no directory called boot01:43
zorglu_ok dunno, too late :)01:43
zorglu_dennister: nope sorry too late01:43
Snake[ONAIR] Any metalheads care to tune into my show (starting in 15 mins)01:43
Snake[ONAIR] http://imagination.kicks-ass.net/ -> Tune In01:43
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dennisterto compare 2 files of a set, saa7127 has 9 files with different extensions in the /usr/src/ivtv.../driver directory, while msp3400 only has 2 files01:44
zorglu_damn http is so misunderstood01:44
kayhello do anyone knows a program to shutdown the pc at an special time?01:44
dennisteras a result, msp3400 is causing further problems all the way down the road01:44
intelikeyso is there any info that might be stored in /proc that would tell where the kernel is ?01:44
zorglu_beginer should not touch MY internet01:44
zorglu_i think this is arrogant... not sure tho :)01:45
zorglu_ /proc/sys/kernel01:46
zorglu_but the issue here is that the file itself is in ram01:46
dennisteras a result, when i run 'make', i get a warning message about a Symbol version dump...module.symvers is missing...01:46
zorglu_it is a matter of boot to read the file and put it in ram01:47
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zorglu_then the kernel is started01:47
Dr_williskay,  what 'special' time?01:47
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kayany time01:47
kayi have now 2:00 pm01:47
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kayand maybe 3:00 pm01:47
kaywhat ever01:47
intelikeycat /proc/cmdline >>> root=/dev/sda vga& BOOT_IMAGE=vmlinuz01:47
zorglu_kay, use 'at' or a kde software for that01:48
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Dr_williskay,  and thats special? :p Cron can do specific jobs at specific times01:48
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zorglu_kay, and use 'shutdown' to stop the box via command line01:48
kayDr_willis: ok thank you very much01:48
zorglu_intelikey: you got the root partition but not the kernel file01:48
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zorglu_you need to get the menu.lst01:49
zorglu_and then you may got the filename01:49
zorglu_but not even garanteed01:49
zorglu_quite liktely tho01:49
zorglu_that and uname -a01:49
intelikeyzorglu_ hmmm   looking01:50
zorglu_locate ?01:50
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intelikeyfind / -name menu.lst  >>> /usr/share/doc/grub/examples/menu.lst01:51
zorglu_hehe :)01:51
intelikeyi don't think that's it.01:51
dennisteri guess no one can help me :-(01:51
zorglu_you got several linux on this box, correct ?01:51
intelikeymmmm one that i know of01:52
intelikeyscanning disks...01:52
zorglu_well this grub didnt come out of the blue :)01:52
intelikeyseems to be maybe a chroot setup also... looking.01:53
intelikeyno menu.lst  but i did find the lilo.conf01:53
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intelikeyno mention of a kernel that matches the uname -r01:54
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zorglu_ok good luck01:54
zorglu_im off to sleep01:54
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LjLintelikey: what kernel is that? what are you doing?01:55
thygrrrHeyas... I still have troubles with lwjgl apps on kubuntu linux. I'm running out of ideas, quite frankly :-(01:55
intelikeyLjL ah snooping   o.o01:56
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thygrrrWrong channel, even01:56
LjLuh? =)01:56
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Iohdoes anyone here play world of warcraft?02:00
CVirusI do02:00
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Iohwhat distro are you using?02:01
CVirusbut I guess this isnt the proper channel to discuss gaming !02:01
LjLi don't02:01
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php02:01
CVirusIoh: I used to play it on Gentoo02:01
Iohk. i'm using wine. i was woundering if anyone knew what font i need to be able to read the text?02:01
CVirusIoh: what text ?02:02
LjLIoh: i'm not sure what you mean, but the package "msttcorefonts" (not sure of the name, actually i'm sure it's wrong, i'll check) will give you some of the standard Microsoft fonts02:02
CVirusIoh: read wine's page02:02
Iohnice. thanks alot.02:02
LjLok, the package name is actually correct02:02
CVirusIoh: let me give you a direct link02:02
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intelikeyb i n g o.02:03
intelikeyb i n g o.02:03
intelikeyand bingo was his name o02:04
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CVirusIoh: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=192202:04
CVirusIoh: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=560602:04
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Iohnah. i have wow working02:06
Iohits just i dont have the correct font02:06
danicCan anyone help me with the mount command? I have some questions wich the manual is not discussing02:07
CVirusIoh: any idea when shall they delete a character when its non registered for certian amount of time ?02:08
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Iohno. they never delete your toon. it stays frozen till you activate the account again02:08
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Iohdoes anyone know where i can get a download for msttcorefonts?02:09
HawkwindIoh: It's in the repos02:09
ubotumsttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB02:09
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Iohwhere do i find that font?02:10
CVirusIoh: you're using an ATI card ?02:10
Iohno problems with game wise02:10
HawkwindIoh: It's in multiverse.  Add the repo if you don't have it and sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts02:10
Iohi just cant read anything02:10
CVirusIf you using an ATI 8500, 9550 series + you do not need to apply a patch to wine, however you will need to02:10
CVirusmakesure the regedit entry as described below has been applied or you will suffer from corrupt & missing02:10
CVirustext and corrupt video.02:10
Iohso in terminal02:11
CVirusIoh: you have the universe and the multiverse repos enabled ?02:11
Iohsudo apt-get install msttcorefonts?02:11
Iohnot sure. i'm still new to linux02:11
danicCan anyone help me with the mount command? I have some questions wich the manual is not discussing02:12
LjLdanic, i might, or i might not (probably not, not too familiar with the mount command). but what are the questions?02:12
CVirusdanic: just ask02:12
danicOk :-)02:12
Iohthis what i got02:12
IohReading package lists... Done02:12
IohBuilding dependency tree... Done02:12
IohPackage msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package.02:12
IohThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or02:12
Iohis only available from another source02:12
IohE: Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate02:12
LjL!info msttcorefonts02:13
ubotumsttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB02:13
LjL!tell toh about multiverse02:13
LjL!tell ioh about multiverse02:13
danicI want to mount an NTFS file system (btw, I use Linux for 2 days now). And I found out, that I have to use following command: "mount -t ntfs /dev/hda2 /media/ntfs -0 ro" to create a readonly mount02:14
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danicAND (and thats the part)02:14
Garbaekubuntu rocks !! :p02:14
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LjLIoh: you need to enable Universe and Multiverse if you want to access all of the ~18000 packages that Ubuntu has. by default, Ubuntu only comes with Main enabled, because that's the only "guaranteed" repository02:14
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danicfor an ntfs mount i need to set umask=4 for a RO NTFS Mount02:14
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danicbut how exactly use umask??02:15
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse02:15
dan_is there a boost package?02:15
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Hawkwinddanic: Might read that URL there.  It might help you a bit.  I don't use Windows so I have no need for NTFS02:15
Dr_willisDefacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume02:15
LjL!info boost02:15
Whiz2How do set a folder as "hidden"?02:15
ubotuPackage boost does not exist in any distro I know02:15
Hawkwind!find boost02:16
ubotuFound: libboost-dev, libboost-python-dev, libboost-python1.33.1, boost-build, libboost-date-time-dev (and 21 others)02:16
Iohhow do i enable Universe and Multiverse02:16
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dan_libboost is what i want02:16
Dr_willisWhiz2,  really.. you dont.. or make the directory name begin with a .02:16
Hawkwind!repos > Ioh02:16
danicHawkwind: Thank you! I will read through02:16
LjLdanic, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umask i guess, if you really want to know the specifics...02:16
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danicLjL: Yes, I want :D02:16
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exmethix_hi together02:17
exmethix_i have a problem with opera 9.002:17
LjLIoh: the short answer is, uncomment *all* the lines that contain the word "universe" in your /etc/apt/source.list, and add the word "multiverse" after it.02:17
exmethix_the buttons on top02:17
LjLIoh: but i would definitely also read the long answer if i were in you02:17
exmethix_they are displayed strange02:17
exmethix_any idea?02:17
Whiz2Dr_willis: Hmm... It's on a network share, but It's a folder that I don't want users of the linux box to be able to see, or easily access. I tried using one of the other computers to set the attribute through windows, but linux denied access for changing attributes02:18
Dr_willisYou have a share.. and theres one DIRECTORY inside the share you dont want accessed?02:19
Whiz2I know there is a way, because there are Hidden folders in Linux.02:19
Whiz2Yes that is correct02:19
Whiz2no... wait... not acessed... I just want it hidden02:20
Dr_willisthere are hidden folders in linux? Thats the first id ever heard of that...02:20
Whiz2least I'm pretty sure there are02:20
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Dr_willisyou can change the ownership and permissions of directories and perhaps restrict the access.02:20
Dr_willisbut other then that..  i know of no way to block access to it.02:20
Whiz2I want to be able to access the fodler from anywhere, but I don't want others to see it if they browse the share from any computer but the one network PC that I use02:20
LjLwell, if you put a period as the file character of the directory name, it becomes hidden in most programs...02:20
LjLs/file character/first character/02:21
Iohok i got multiverse installed02:21
Dr_willissamba has a lot of options.. you can define specific shares for specific pc's02:21
Whiz2the network share itself has 777 rights (Full rights for all)02:21
LjLIoh: ok, issue a "sudo apt-get update" to sync with the newly added repository, and then install msttcorefonts02:21
Dr_willischeck out that Using Samba book thats Online.02:21
Whiz2no... the directory is inside of a share already02:22
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Whiz2a share inside of a share defeats the purpose if the original share has full access rights02:23
Whiz2nevermind. I'll figure something else out02:24
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Iohi got a break error?02:25
trappistevery time I start kde, kmail starts.  I can't seem to tell it not to.  I say start with an empty session in kcontrol, there's nothing in ~/.kde/Autostart starting it.  any ideas?02:25
Dr_willisUseing the samba config tool for kde - they got some sort of hidden file options..02:25
Dr_willisbut ive never used the,02:26
Hobbseetrappist: is it in /usr/share/autostart/ either?02:26
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trappistHobbsee: nope, but I hadn't looked there before.  never heard of it :)  any other guesses?02:27
Hobbseetrappist: not currently. apart from something in the sessions02:27
Whiz2trappist: is it running when you restart, or shutdown?02:27
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trappistWhiz2: kontact is, but not kmail by itself02:27
trappistWhiz2: at any rate I told kde don't save my sessions, use an empty one02:28
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Whiz2trappist: I would say close everything that you don't want opening before restarting/shutting down...02:28
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Whiz2trappist: wait so you don't let it reopen anything you had open after restart?02:28
trappistWhiz2: tried that, just to make sure it wasn't a bug in the sessions thing, but it starts every time.02:28
trappistWhiz2: right.02:29
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IohThere was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.02:29
Iohwhat does this mean02:29
Whiz2trappist: I had that issue not too long ago with qtPart... I uninstalled the package, andhaven't had the issue again02:29
trappistIoh: hard to say.  try 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' on the command line and you should get a more informative error message02:29
Ash-FoxI really need prempt disabled in the kernel, is there a boot option or something?02:30
trappistWhiz2: hah yeah, that oughtta do it, but I'm not interested in uninstalling kmail02:30
Whiz2Ioh: Possibly a corrupted package02:30
trappistAsh-Fox: no, it's a compile-time kernel config option02:30
Whiz2trappist: No I would think not lol02:30
Ash-Foxtrappist, any ubuntu kernels that don't have it?02:30
Iohhow can i fix it?02:30
trappistAsh-Fox: probably the server kernels, there wouldn't be any use for it on a server02:31
trappistIoh: I told you02:31
Hawkwindtrappist: Have you made sure all apps are closed when you shutdown and/or restart KDE ?02:31
Iohit didnt work02:31
trappistHawkwind: even though that shouldn't be necessary with my config, yes.  no go.02:31
Whiz2trappist: You might try checking the options for Kmail itself. There might be an autostart option, but I can't really say, because I've never used it02:31
Ash-Foxtrappist, unfortunately I need the restricted modules for fglrx.. blah02:31
Hawkwindtrappist: I had this problem on Edgy a few days ago.  Finally I closed everything, restarted KDE a couple of times and it finally worked02:31
trappistIoh: no, but you got a better error message.  what was it?02:31
trappistAsh-Fox: I have a hard time figuring out why you'd need fglrx and a non-preempt kernel at the same time02:32
trappistHawkwind: been doing it to me for months here02:32
Iohbreak (install)02:32
Ash-Foxtrappist, because preempt causes some 3d software to lock up on ati cards02:32
Hawkwindtrappist: Weird.  I don't use KDE that often but when I do I never had this problem til just recently on my Edgy vmware install02:32
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trappistAsh-Fox: the restricted modules stuff should be available for the server kernels as well02:33
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trappist(I would think)02:34
M4X1MUMalright my torrent finally works!!!02:34
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Ash-Foxash-fox@sphinx:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)02:34
Ash-FoxReading package lists... Done02:34
Ash-FoxBuilding dependency tree... Done02:34
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Ash-FoxE: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-server02:34
HawkwindAckkk @ the pasting02:34
HawkwindUse pastebin please02:34
M4X1MUMis apt support rpm.bin file?02:34
M4X1MUMblah i mean adept02:35
aftertafHobbsee: :P02:35
aftertafM4X1MUM: better to not use rpm if you can help it02:35
trappistAsh-Fox: well I'll be.  well, there's still installing the package from ati's site, or you could grab the kernel-headers package and build the lrm package yourself02:35
aftertafnormaly no need to02:35
trappistM4X1MUM: and anyway, no02:35
M4X1MUMim trying to install java re, but i cannot find it in adept02:36
M4X1MUMand the java website provided rpm.bin and .bin02:36
trappistM4X1MUM: you need to enable the multiverse repository02:36
Hawkwind!java > trappist02:36
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:36
HawkwindDang tab completion02:36
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Hawkwind!java > M4X1MUM02:36
trappistactually, I even have kmail specifically excluded from apps that *would* start due to a saved session, if I were doing that at all02:38
M4X1MUMapt = adept?02:38
trappistM4X1MUM: not quite.  adept is a graphical front-end for apt.02:38
trappistok then, next problem.  this is a new one.  I said don't show icons on my desktop for unmounted smb shares, but here they are.02:40
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trappistactually they didn't go away when I hit apply.  ima restart kde and see if it gets it...02:41
M4X1MUME: Couldn't find package sun-java5-bin02:41
M4X1MUMcan't i just download the .bin from java website and install it?02:41
aftertafM4X1MUM: add universe02:42
trappistok that worked, I guess I'll file a bug about the apply button.02:42
trappistM4X1MUM: you could, but you're much better off sticking with the package management system whenever possible, and in this case it's possible and actually easier02:42
Hawkwind!info sun-java5-bin02:42
M4X1MUMadd universe?02:42
ubotusun-java5-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 21625 kB, installed size 65608 kB02:42
trappistmultiverse :)02:42
HawkwindIt's in multiverse, not universe02:42
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M4X1MUMadd to where?02:43
aftertaf!tell M4X1MUM about multiverse02:43
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:43
HawkwindM4X1MUM: Read the info the bot is giving you in pm and here02:43
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trappistand NEXT problem.  I insert a dvd.  dialog box pops up, title of "Error - KIOExec", message: /media/cdrom0 is a folder, but a file was expected.  what gives there?02:45
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Iohwhat does it mean when i get "break (install)" when i try to install msttcorefonts02:46
Whiz2trappist: I've never seen that error, so I can not help you there.02:46
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intelikeywhat error ?02:47
trappistWhiz2: hint: it only happened after I added a handler that said open "xine dvd://dev/dvd".  before that I got what you'd expect, with the option to watch it in kaffeine, which I hate02:47
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trappistintelikey: 19:45 <trappist> and NEXT problem.  I insert a dvd.  dialog box pops up, title of "Error - KIOExec", message: /media/cdrom0 is a folder, but a file was expected.  what gives there?02:47
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Hobbseeaftertaf: :P02:47
gaborYo yo yo02:47
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aftertaf:) hows stuff Hobbsee ?02:48
Whiz2trappist: Did you manage to fix your kmail issue?02:48
Hobbseeaftertaf: okay, work soon02:48
trappistWhiz2: no, guess I'll have to file a bug on that one02:48
M4X1MUMhttp://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ <-- this multiverse?02:48
M4X1MUMstill cannot find it02:48
Whiz2trappist: Yup... maybe they will figure out what causes it, and add it to a future update02:48
aftertafwork? sunday? argh!02:49
Whiz2It's Saturday here02:49
aftertafM4X1MUM: are you using adept?02:49
intelikeytrappist check malone ?    seems like that might be a known issue.02:49
trappistI guess this is what happens after using linux for ~10 years.  when you have questions, nobody can answer em :)02:49
aftertafive got a floating point exception with evms gui and ncurses :/02:49
intelikeyi remember something about a kio bug02:49
trappistintelikey: yeah there are lots of those iirc.  I'll look.02:50
intelikeytrappist yes that too.02:50
intelikeythe 10 thing02:50
M4X1MUMhttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/s/sun-java5/ <-- download from this website is ok?02:50
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trappistM4X1MUM: yes02:50
Whiz2trappist: I'm a newbie when it comes to Linux, but I'm teaching myself how to use it by finding my own answers when no one can answer them... just recently had hard drive issues, and so had to do research on fstab, then I had network issues, so I did research on samba, and smb.conf then rewrote both files by hand to match the options I wanted. :-)02:51
trappistM4X1MUM: but you'll be a lot happier after you figure out how to turn on the extra repositories.  LOTS of nice packages.02:51
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trappistWhiz2: that's the way to go02:51
M4X1MUMwhere do the .deb stored after adept download them? it would be nice to be able to back it up so i don't have to download them again02:52
intelikeyM4X1MUM /var/cache/apt/archives02:52
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trappistM4X1MUM: /var/cache/apt/archives02:52
M4X1MUMok thanks02:53
trappistintelikey: any idea what package I'd look at for those kio slave issues?02:53
Whiz2trappist: I've also researched the specifics of "sudo" and "kdesu"... I'm starting to learn the ins & outs of kubuntu on ny own... this is also just the way I learned the advanced issues for Windows (all versions)02:53
M4X1MUMthis is the first time in my life i've use keyboard more than my mouse :)02:53
Whiz2trial & error is fun02:53
trappistM4X1MUM: get used to it :)02:53
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intelikeytrappist avtually no.   context search ?02:54
Whiz2M4X1MUM: The shell/terminal reminds me of the old DOS days lol02:54
trappistwhen the batteries go out on my mouse, I sometimes don't realize it for days02:54
M4X1MUMnow that i have Opera, that browser has keyboard shortcut for everything lol02:54
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intelikeywget url | less02:55
nikHey does anyone in here kno stuff about ndiswrapper?02:55
M4X1MUMonce java is installed, i can install azureus muahahahaha02:56
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:56
intelikeynik ^  see if that helps02:56
trappistM4X1MUM: hey guess what.  once your universe and multiverse repos are enabled, you can apt-get install azureus :)02:56
aftertafM4X1MUM: ok. Do you have adept open now?02:57
HawkwindI'm glad I've got a wireless mouse that doesn't need the batteries replaced anymore :)02:57
aftertafM4X1MUM: ok.... ill guide you02:57
HawkwindWireless and cordless02:57
trappistHawkwind: I theoretically do, but I seem to have misplaced the rechargeable ones02:57
nikwhat the problem is is ndiswrapper installs(its on a vector linux laptop) and then it lets me install the driver but it doesnt recognize the card as being in, nor does it recognize any eth0/wlan0 ports02:57
nikjust loopback02:57
Hawkwindtrappist: I have the MX1000 laser mouse which has the battery built-in :)02:58
M4X1MUMi only have 5 repository enabled02:58
trappistok ima write a script for adding repos.02:59
intelikeyi only have three lines in my sources.list file02:59
Hawkwindtrappist: Though it's funny as I constantly forget to put it on the charger at night so every now and then I look at the charge light and notice it's almost out completely02:59
M4X1MUM3 lines!?!?!02:59
Hawkwindtrappist: It's gotta be written in python :P02:59
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Iohwhat is a typical font used in games?02:59
trappistyeah right.02:59
HawkwindIoh: Probably no such thing as 'typical font used in games'02:59
intelikeyuse php03:00
Hawkwindtrappist: Let me know when you have said script done.  I'd like to post it on my http://LinuxForDummies.org/ forums03:00
aftertafi only had 3 till i added google and amarok latest03:00
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trappistHawkwind: will do03:00
aftertafhey weird, i cant access the repository menu in adept03:01
M4X1MUMdo i need those deb-src?03:01
intelikeyaftertaf google  repo ?   meeh03:01
aftertafok M4X1MUM you have your repository list open?03:01
HawkwindM4X1MUM: not unless you plan on building things from source03:01
aftertafok. those lines where you have main at the end03:01
M4X1MUMok i've disable those deb-src03:01
aftertafM4X1MUM: you see em?03:01
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M4X1MUMmain restricted ?03:02
aftertafyou have a dapper main and a dapper restricted, right?03:02
aftertafyeah ok.03:02
aftertafadd after restricted, universe multiverse03:02
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aftertafM4X1MUM: mine reads deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted multiverse universe03:03
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HawkwindBut do *not* use 'edgy' in yours M4X1MUM03:03
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aftertafstay on dapper...... but put those words on the end03:03
HawkwindHe'll be in for a treat if he does03:03
intelikeysed 's/main*/main restrected universe multiverse/g' /etc/apt/sources.list > /etc/apt/sources.list.new03:03
intelikeyskript'd        ^03:04
Iohanyone know any sites to get free fonts03:04
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HawkwindIoh: I know of one that will get you 6,760 fonts03:04
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Iohare they in a zip03:04
M4X1MUMok done03:05
Iohbecause i have alot of cut and paste if not03:05
HawkwindIoh: Of course03:05
M4X1MUMis dapper and dapper-update the same thing?03:05
aftertafis kde 3.5.5 worth getting? or will i be stuck without a K environment that works? :P03:05
Iohwhat is the site?03:05
LjLIoh: look, if you have installed msttcorefonts, and a game in wine is showing text incorrectly, i think it is *not* due to missing fonts, but just to wine misbehaving.03:05
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Iohnah. msttcorefonts wont install03:05
intelikeyM4X1MUM no03:05
Iohit says there was an error in a d/l03:05
LjLkde 3.5.5? gee, i should have www.kde.org set on auto-refresh every 30 seconds to keep up on releases03:06
aftertafits not released yet03:06
HawkwindIoh: Then you have an issue with your mirrors03:06
aftertafat all.03:06
Iohwhat do i do about that?03:06
HawkwindThough there are 3.5.5 packages for Edgy actually03:06
aftertafM4X1MUM: youll have one line with main, one with updates and one with security03:06
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HawkwindIoh: Without showing us errors in http://pastebin.ulteo.us it's going to be hard for us to help you03:06
intelikeyM4X1MUM dapper dapper-update and dapper-security are the three sections you "need"   and   "main restrected universe multiverse"  in each03:07
LjLioh, if it won't install, then it means you haven't set up multiverse correctly most likely. paste the errors as Hawkwind said, and possibly also paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file03:07
aftertafyou understand that M4X1MUM ?03:07
aftertafits not easy grasping all this in one go for a newbie..... most of us have been there03:07
HawkwindLjL: Not necessarily true by what he said if you'd read what he stated03:08
LjL(and, ioh, solving the wrong problem generally leads to trouble ;)03:08
HawkwindLjL: He stated:  There was a problem with the download of the file.  Therefore, he has the repos set obviously03:08
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M4X1MUMhmm i have dapper-backport03:08
tony_hi guys03:08
LjLHawkwind: well, i don't know. let us just see his sources.list and find out03:08
aftertafM4X1MUM: thats fo exatra goodness ;)03:08
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intelikeyM4X1MUM some use backports some don't03:08
tony_dose anyone know if there is a way to open .chm files in linux03:08
HawkwindLjL: How many times do we need to see it ?03:08
LjLHawkwind: uh, if he posted it already, i didn't see it. not omnipresent, you know03:09
HawkwindLjL: The problem is with the actual package on the mirror.  We've gotten that far already before you showed up03:09
M4X1MUMso i should set "main restricted universe multiverse" to all distribution?03:09
aftertafM4X1MUM: to those 3 lines, yes03:09
intelikeyM4X1MUM yes03:10
intelikeybe sure and update when finished.03:10
LjLHawkwind: ok, still i'm not sure how downloading random fonts from a random site and installing them manually will likely help, honestly.03:11
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M4X1MUMooh crap 43 updatable package03:11
M4X1MUMwhat a pain03:12
aftertafM4X1MUM: nah.03:12
aftertafits good03:12
HawkwindLjL: If you notice, I've been helping him get msttcorefonts installed from the beginning since he asked.  I've yet to give him the URL for what he asked for03:12
aftertafplus, youll have a lot ore available now03:12
intelikeyi may try my hand at installing the nvidia driver just so i can see if it's easy or hard...03:12
HawkwindLjL: I'd appreciate it if you allow me to finish helping him instead of stating stuff that isn't true or hasn't been done03:12
LjLHawkwind: alright, go on please.03:13
aftertafcmh files? tried apt-cache search chm?03:13
intelikeyM4X1MUM that's why you need security and updates enabled.    bug fixes and security patches   (if you care about security)   is a good thing         until it hoses your system anyway....03:13
HawkwindBahhh, now he's gone from the network again.  I had him in PM03:13
aftertaftony_: ^^03:13
M4X1MUMdamn linux kernel so huge03:14
tony_sorry.. i kinda got into x  and was trying to get back to kdm. heheh03:14
tony_aftertaf: didn't try that yet. but i will try it now03:14
aftertaftony_: xchm - Compiled HTML Help (CHM) file viewer for X03:14
intelikeyM4X1MUM not using propritary vidio drivers are you ?03:14
LjLHawkwind: you owe me a virtual pint of beer if it turns out that his sources.list was wrong, anyway!03:14
aftertafM4X1MUM: XP takes up 2 giga :)03:14
HawkwindLjL: I've seen his sources.list, 3 times03:15
tony_cool thanks . i have a linux book that is in chm and is better to read it in linux then in window03:15
aftertafyeah ;)03:15
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M4X1MUMaaah actually i haven't install nvidia dirver yet, i forgot. I got to install automatix first03:15
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M4X1MUMi tried using adept to install but i dont think its working03:16
aftertafautomatix? takes the fun out of doing it yourself03:16
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M4X1MUMthe screen saver still lags03:16
aftertafM4X1MUM: use console?03:17
aftertafwith nvidia you need to modify things by hand iirc03:17
Brydenn33GOD I LOVE KUBUNTU haha03:17
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:17
intelikeydoing it your self takes the fun out of doing it your self....03:17
aftertafBrydenn33: yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!03:17
Brydenn33i just got XMMS to play Monkeys Audio files03:17
Brydenn33that's sooooooooooo sweet!!!03:17
aftertafintelikey: very deep, in a recursive sort of deep, in a recursive sort of deep, in a recursive sort of deep, in a recursive sort of deep, way03:18
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now3dHello, Could someone tell me how I can disable the X Login manager please? I would like to go straight to a terminal login on this box03:19
M4X1MUMXMMS an mp3 player?03:19
Brydenn33yah it is03:20
tony_i installed xchm. do i have to reboot the system for the application to show up or can i just log of the session and relog back in03:20
M4X1MUMso it support .ape and .flac?03:20
LjLnow3d: "disabling" it, i'd avoid... but from KControl, you can set things up so that you aren't asked for a password, i think03:20
intelikeysome people are so deep, they're stuck.03:20
Brydenn33no it doesnt support .ape by default03:20
Brydenn33i had to install a plugin and the .ape codec03:20
Brydenn33its not too tricky now that i have the right repositories03:21
now3dLjL: ah... i really need to go straight to a terminal03:21
aftertaftony_: restart kde, or type it in a console03:21
LjLnow3d: ah, so you don't want X at all?03:21
intelikeynow3d  man update-rc.d     the service is  kdm03:21
aftertafcan i resize my /home partiton without unmounting it?03:21
tony_ok .03:21
LjLnow3d: sorry, missed that. yeah, just disable kdm03:21
Brydenn33M4X1MUM: you interested in getting XMMS to play .ape files?03:21
now3dLjL: I want X, but i want to start it using "startx" when i need it..03:22
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LjLnow3d: that should still be possible, after you've disabled kdm... even though honestly i haven't tried running "startx" in Ubuntu since a long time03:22
M4X1MUMnot now, im still trying to install nvidia lol, setting up the system one by one03:22
aftertafnow3d: or hit alt-F1 on boot03:22
aftertafM4X1MUM: yeah!!!!!03:22
Brydenn33M4X1MUM: hehe yah i had a bit of trouble installing my invidia card03:22
Brydenn33but i got it working03:22
intelikeynow3d  disable kdm   use sudo update-rc.d -d kdm 2     iirc  but use the man page to make sure.03:22
Hitmanxhow do can i add the current directory to my path so i dont have to type ./ to execute?03:23
now3daftertaf: Is X still running then tho?03:23
trappistHawkwind: this is getting fun, and I've decided to make it a gui03:23
LjLHitmanx: you could do that, but that's usually adviced against for various reasons.03:23
Hawkwindtrappist: Very kewl indeed.  You should get it into the distro somehow if possible03:23
LjLHitmanx: anyway, "export PATH=$PATH:." should do the trick03:23
aftertafnow3d: yeah. but if you type /etc/init.d/kdm stop it stops for good03:23
Hitmanxwill that add it everytime i reboot tho?03:23
aftertafbest is to disable kdm like said above03:24
LjLHitmanx: no. you'd need to add it to your .bashrc for that03:24
trappistHawkwind: hah, first let's see if a) I can do it and b) it doesn't suck03:24
Hitmanxah thats what im looking for, where can i find it?03:24
LjLHitmanx: in your home directory03:24
flaccidi dont get why you install stuff with apt-get then you remove it but it doesn't remove all the files03:24
aftertafflaccid: --purge03:25
LjLflaccid: well, it doesn't remove configuration files, because you might want to re-install the same program at a later stage, without losing the previous configuration03:25
trappistflaccid: it likes to keep configuration files, so if you decide to reinstall you haven't lost everything.  but as aftertaf said, apt-get remove --purge will kill it pretty dead.03:25
flaccidits just that games are still there03:25
aftertafrumour is that apt is based on symantec, thatll be why :)03:25
HitmanxLjL: can i add export PATH=$PATH:. at the end of that file?03:25
flaccidfrom gnome03:25
LjLHitmanx: not sure the end of the file is the right place, let me look03:25
intelikeyHitmanx echo "export PATH=\"\$PATH:./\"" >> ~/.profile03:25
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trappistflaccid: what did you uninstall03:25
aftertafintelikey: a real script sharpshoota03:26
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MotorCityMadManhello: does kubuntu have a Geography traceroute program ?03:26
trappistintelikey: ack!  that's terrible!03:26
LjLHitmanx: yeah... should work. i guess intelikey's suggestion is more elegant though03:26
Dr_willisMotorCityMadMan,  i saw on in the repos last night while browseing them03:26
aftertafMotorCityMadMan: xt - A graphical traceroute03:26
trappistthe reason that's not done by default is that it's a big security problem03:26
flaccidwell better03:27
aftertafapt-cache search  is better than google :)03:27
M4X1MUMwhen i try to do this sudo nvidia-glx-config enable, i got Error: your X configuration has been altered.03:27
Hitmanxcheers guys03:27
intelikeytrappist that's what he asked for.03:27
trappistflaccid: ubuntu-desktop is only a metapackage.  its only purpose is to depend on other packages.  removing it won't remove much of anything.03:27
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LjLtrappist: i had already told him that. then it's his decision...03:27
flaccidoops better question. how can i get a list of packages that are removed but not purged?03:27
trappistintelikey: it's bad.03:27
aftertafM4X1MUM: check the driver is nvidia and not nv in your Xorg.conf03:27
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aftertafflaccid: synaptic does that.....03:27
flaccidtrappist: ah right. so its good to install but uninstall hmm thats not good03:28
flaccidcool i'll try03:28
trappistflaccid: --purge wouldn't have helped you here.  it won't do you any good.  use debfoster to remove packages that were installed with ubuntu-desktop.03:28
intelikeytrappist splain03:28
M4X1MUMwhere is that file located?03:28
now3dthanks guys, night03:28
LjLM4X1MUM: /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:28
flaccidyou know i've always heard synaptic mentioned03:29
flaccidfirst time i've used it now lol03:29
LjLthat's not good...03:29
ubotuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!03:29
aftertafM4X1MUM: you can open it in a console with write privileges via sudo kate03:29
Whiz2synaptic? what's that?03:29
LjL!synaptic > Whiz203:30
LjLWhiz2: same thing as Adept in KDE03:30
Whiz2oh ok basically add/remove programs for linux03:30
tony_is virtual consol same thing as those buttons labled 1 through 4 on my panel ???03:30
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trappistintelikey: by default, the shell searches your $PATH, all of which should be writable only as root.  the reason is so I can't plop something nefarious into your PATH and have you execute it without even knowing it.03:30
LjLWhiz2: yeah, except that, contrary to Windows, you actually use it to *add* programs, and not just to remove them03:31
M4X1MUMSection "Device"  driver "nv" <-- change this?03:31
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LjLWhiz2: or, alternatively, you can avoid using it, and install stuff by hand, and break the system ;)03:31
aftertafM4X1MUM: yep, to nvidia03:31
flaccidso you can like install ubuntu-desktop then remove desired gnome packages03:31
Iohoh well. i'm off to gay it up03:31
Whiz2tony_: those numbers labeled 1-4 on your panel are virtual desktops, not consoles. i dunno what virtual consoles are03:31
Iohi mean wow it up03:31
flaccidafter removing ubuntu-desktop03:31
M4X1MUMboardname "nv" <-- how about this one?03:31
LjLIoh: what was the problem?03:32
trappistflaccid: in edgy it'll be different.  you will be able to say 'sudo apt-get autoremove' (I think that's what it is) and it'll clean out stuff that's only installed because it was depended on by something you've since removed.03:32
aftertaftony_: vconsoles are consoles opened in X i think03:32
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aftertafM4X1MUM: no leave the others03:32
flaccidthats pretty cool03:32
LjLtrappist: yes, that's it03:32
Iohi didnt haev the right font in the wine, font file03:32
intelikeytrappist that's the reason for it being at the end and not the beginning.03:32
tony_i see, because im reading the book and tells me how to activate v consol , but nothing happening03:32
aftertafM4X1MUM: just driver!!!03:32
aftertaftony_: used screen yet?03:32
Iohi had to d/l alot before i found the right one03:32
ubotuscreen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen03:32
tony_it say HOLD left ALT and click on funcation key from F1 Trough F8 to activaate vconsole03:33
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aftertaftony_: means drop to console?03:33
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LjLtony_: hold alt *and* ctrl, if you're inside X03:33
LjLtony_: then ctrl+alt+f7 to go back to X03:33
aftertafie when youre not in X. or^^ if you are03:33
trappistintelikey: yeah, that's definitely way better than at the beginning, but it's still rather nasty.  for example I might take advantage of a common type, and put a file called "suod" in your home dir, which will capture your password for later use then send it on to sudo, without you ever knowing.03:33
intelikeytrappist PATH=./:$PATH  == bad    PATH=$PATH:./ = user option.   and he asked.  so i told him how.   path always takes the first match doesn't it.03:34
tony_i did that , hard time to comming back out of x03:34
trappistintelikey: s/type/typo/03:34
M4X1MUMstill give me error :(03:34
aftertaflol you did a typo on typo03:34
tony_console i mean . in the book it reffers to having multible v console , so you can switch back and forth between them03:34
LjLtrappist: although, honestly, if you already have access to my home dir, i think i'd have bigger worries to worry about than that...03:34
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aftertaftony_: because you can do just that03:35
LjLtony_: yes. type ctrl+alt+F1 to go to the first virtual console, then ctrl+alt+F2 for the second, etc, and ctrl+alt+F7 to go back to X03:35
intelikeyhehhe or sduo03:35
tony_ahhhhh. now i get it LjL :)03:35
trappistLjL: no, a major reason linux tends to be so much more secure is that the damage is limited if a user account is compromised.  but if you have sudo, and I can write to your home dir, and I can get you to run arbitrary scripts... then it gets nasty.03:35
tony_this damn books can be more clear03:35
flaccidheh synaptic rox03:36
LjLtony_: Alt alone, without Ctrl, works when you'are *already* outside X (i.e. already in a virtual console). from inside X, you need to use Ctrl+Alt03:36
flaccid!synaptic > flaccid03:36
M4X1MUMrestart the pc?03:36
intelikeybut i don't use root jr.  so it would be a long wait   :)03:36
CheeseBurgerManCtrl+Alt+Backspace restarts X03:36
trappistunless you're running xgl, for some reason03:37
trappistthen it's shift-backspace03:37
trappistwhich really sucks.03:37
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Samuli^you're free to change it to whatever you want.03:37
trappistgiven its proximity to the pipe key on decent keyboards03:37
LjLtrappist: well, not really a major worry in single-user desktop systems, since the sensitive stuff is actually the stuff that's in your home. and at any rate... if i am a sudoer, and you gain access to my account, i consider myself rooted, no matter wether you have yet managed to get around the sudo password... though that's just me03:37
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trappistLjL: if you're a sudoer and I gain access to your account, you're still relatively ok unless I know your password.03:38
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aftertafhe gone....03:38
trappistLjL: it's all pretty relative.  your data can't be trusted anymore, but you don't have to reinstall the whole system.  you don't have to worry that 'ls' has been pwned.03:38
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m4x1mumoh crap what the hell, it restart immediately i thought there will be some yes or no message box thing03:39
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aftertafm4x1mum: hehe03:39
aftertafand did it work?03:40
LjLtrappist: alright, and indeed, i definitely *don't* have "." set in my $PATH. and when the guy asked, the first thing i said is that it's considered bad. but then, if one really wants to do it, i just tell them how... 1) it's their system 2) on a desktop system, it doesn't really make that much of a difference03:40
aftertafm4x1mum: open a console and type glxgears03:40
m4x1mumsudo nvidia-glx-config enable still give me error, but glxgears works03:41
aftertafm4x1mum: should be cool then.03:41
trappistLjL: I won't preach it to you guys, and I hope I didn't come across that way, but the way I see it insecure systems end up as spambots and other nasties that make *my* life harder, and I won't tell somebody to do something that will compromise their security unnecessarily03:41
aftertafm4x1mum: did you get the nvidia splash screen?03:41
LjLtrappist: i mean, really, if that's a security concern on a typical desktop Ubuntu, then what about the "sudo make install"s that people are doing all the time -- from untrusted sites? ;)03:41
trappistLjL: that is, won't tell them *how* to03:41
LjLtrappist: that's a valid stance.03:42
m4x1mumbut at least the screen saver is smooth now, no lagginess03:42
aftertafyeah good then03:42
m4x1mumok next stop, making those video file work!!03:43
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intelikeyhmmm four more hours worth of kernel dl (an older version than apt-get update installs) just to see if i can install nvidia-glx    why do i have to down grade the kernel to do this?  is that an oversight in the package management ?03:43
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trappistintelikey: do you maybe need to apt-get update?03:44
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m4x1mumsay can i move /media/sdb1 to /media/some_meaningful_name?03:44
Dr_willishuh..   ive nerver had that issue03:44
linuxkid2I've had a huge meltdown. I accidently copied a floppy image to hda1 instead of fd0. I was on a liveCD at the time, and my root partition is wiped. HELP!03:45
trappistintelikey: it's been a really long time since I had an issue with out-of-sync kernel/lrm03:45
trappistlinuxkid2: there's really no coming back from that without a reinstall.03:45
intelikeytrappist no03:45
Dr_willism4x1mum,  yes edit fstab is 1 way03:45
intelikeytrappist nvidia-glx depends on 2.6.23  2.6.26 is running03:45
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linuxkid2really? please say there's some way to fix it.03:46
trappistintelikey: where the hell did you get those!  I'm on edgy and I got 2.6.1703:46
trappistand, I'm pretty sure those kernel versions don't exist03:46
intelikeytrappist dapper03:46
aftertafhey i have a qu about xorg and nvidia03:46
trappistintelikey: do you mean 2.6.15-23 and 2.6.15-26?03:46
m4x1mumhow do i edit fstab?03:46
intelikeyoh yeah  2.6.15-2303:46
intelikeyreading in console and typing in x     brain fart.03:47
aftertafi have Options   "RenderAccel"    "true" and "NvAgp" "1" both comentted out, what are they for?03:47
aftertafm4x1mum: with kate, sudo kate to modify03:48
jtholmesm4x1mum: from  the command line use vim03:48
aftertafvim for noobs is rough03:48
Dr_willissudo EDITORYOULIKE  /etc/fstab03:48
trappistintelikey: I see the -26 lrm packages on packages.ubuntu.com.  maybe your mirror gave up on getting updates or something?03:48
jtholmesaftertaf: yes but it is so rewarding03:48
linuxkid2c'mon, there has to be a way.03:48
trappistDr_willis: or, sudoedit /etc/fstab03:48
intelikeytrappist -26 lrm   ?      for the nvidia-glx ?03:49
LjL!info testdisk03:49
trappistintelikey: for the nvidia kernel modules03:49
ubotutestdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.1-1 (dapper), package size 386 kB, installed size 1124 kB03:49
aftertafjtholmes: i agree!03:49
linuxkid2no goof, can't boot Kubuntu03:49
trappistintelikey: presumably it also has the nvidia-glx package that depends on that stuff.  no way that would go unnoticed across 3 kernel releases.03:49
LjLlinuxkid2: then use a live cd03:49
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aftertafanyone know for xorg options?03:50
intelikeytrappist hmmm wonder why it's only finding nvidia-glx that depends on the -23 kernel ?03:50
linuxkid2all that got wiped was the first like 1.4 MB, by dd/ that can't be un-undoable.03:50
m4x1mum  /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 ntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,uid=0,gid=46,auto,rw,nouser 0 1  <--which sdb1 do i change? both03:50
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trappistintelikey: maybe try a new mirror and/or apt-get clean03:51
linuxkid2I'm fine with reinstalling, but i've got data on that disk.03:51
aftertafm4x1mum: the second one03:51
intelikeyapt-get clean  0.0  not on your life.   this is dialup.03:51
aftertafm4x1mum: BUT.... make sure you create the folder in the /media folder or you wont mount it03:52
trappistm4x1mum: /dev/sdb1 is the device.  /media/sdb1 is where it gets mounted.03:52
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LjLlinuxkid2: that's what i'm saying -- testdisk should be the program you need to recover those data03:52
LjLlinuxkid2: just boot from a live cd, install it, and cross your fingers03:52
tony_how can i find different chanals using konversation ??? i only get connected to kubuntu03:53
linuxkid2ok, but how do I get it? Is it abailable in Knoppix?03:53
aftertaftony_: type /j #channelname03:53
LjLtony_: "/join #channelname" to join. the command "/list" will show all available channels, but it will most likely result in you being disconnected for excess flood03:53
intelikeytony_  /list   but don't do it.   you'll never see the end of the scroll03:53
m4x1mumyay it works03:53
LjLlinuxkid2: i don't know -- it's most definitely available in ubuntu. don't you have the ubuntu desktop cd?03:53
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aftertafm4x1mum: w2twwol03:54
tony_tooo late , did it already03:54
m4x1mumnow i have to make it writable and change the owner ohhhh dannnngggg03:54
linuxkid2yes, but i'd rather use knoppix on a live-cd thing03:54
tony_so whats the best way of finding chanalls03:54
m4x1mumoh wait, kubuntu can write to NTFS right?03:54
linuxkid2do you mean that if I install kubuntu overr the wiped partition it can still recover from the formatted disk?03:55
aftertaflinuxmaybe try theultimate boot cd03:55
LjLlinuxkid2: well, that's your choice. i'm not familiar with knoppix. i'm not sure what you would lose by using the ubuntu cd, though03:55
aftertafit has tools to recover loads of things03:55
LjLlinuxkid2: no, i'm not saying you should install *anything* on your HD03:55
LjLlinuxkid2: i'm just saying you should boot from the Ubuntu Live CD, install testdisk, and run it over the damaged partition03:55
linuxkid2how do I install stuff on a livecd?03:55
LjLlinuxkid2: with apt-get, just like you'd do on a normal installation.,03:56
aftertaftony_: /j # and the name of what you want to join.... it either exists or it soesnt03:56
linuxkid2oh, ok, thanks.03:56
LjLlinuxkid2: well, at least if you're not going to install the whole of Universe. it all gets loaded into a RAM disk, so...03:56
m4x1mumkubuntu can write to NTFS right?03:57
LjLyes and no. yes, you can. no, you shouldn't ;)03:57
LjLanyway, off to bed03:57
aftertafm4x1mum: f03:57
aftertafm4x1mum: reformat to fat or ext303:57
intelikeytony_  /join #blah     either you join a channel or make one and then chanserv comes and kicks you out of it...   lol03:57
aftertafwin can read ext3 too :)03:57
m4x1mumaaawwww i have to transfer 100+Gb data just to change the format :(03:58
tony_im getting used to getting kicked out ..03:58
Dr_willis!info unp03:58
ubotuunp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (dapper), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB03:58
aftertafm4x1mum: biiig usb disk you have there03:58
method|m4x1mum: what i do is make a fat32 partition that windows and linux can read and write too03:58
method|helps alot03:59
tony_method|: thats what i did too03:59
aftertafmethod|: ditched fat for ext3, no 4gb limit03:59
m4x1mumbut i have files over 4Gb03:59
tony_this way i can pass files between the two03:59
method|i dont mess with the experimental methods of windows reading and writing to ext or reiser or linux writing to ntfs03:59
intelikeytony_ 'xchat' used to have a channel search with filtering options  pretty handy for bigger servers03:59
aftertafext2fs for zindope03:59
method|m4x1mum: yeah that's always my problem too03:59
method|dvds and such?03:59
m4x1mumbackup mostly04:00
intelikeylike filter out all channels with less than 300 ppl04:00
aftertafgo ext3, and install ext2fs for windows, it the best compromise04:00
m4x1mumdamn, ok i better start transferring the files first :(04:00
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m4x1mum2000+ files in there i have to transfer04:01
tony_yes is true. i think i should use xchat rather knonversation04:01
m4x1mumxchat is better than konverstion?04:01
intelikeyknonversation    :)04:02
trappistm4x1mum: it's a matter of preference.  I would say no.04:02
tony_ok ok ,04:02
intelikeyepic is irc dinctom04:02
m4x1mumkonversation couldnt make the channel list to display on the right :(, i use mirc all the time04:02
tony_typo. im just way too tired.04:02
Dr_willissirc :)04:03
Hawkwindm4x1mum: It's personal preference.  Some like it, some don't.  It's all I use, though I do have irssi(cli client) running from my server to log channels for channel stat pages04:03
trappistI use irssi.  it's the best irc client on earth.  that's a fact.04:03
intelikeytony_ i liked it.    me makes note of    "knonversation"04:03
Hawkwindtrappist: Bahhh!04:03
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tony_i have all the copyright to that word04:03
trappistbut seriously.  irssi + screen + bitlbee = chat nirvana04:03
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luke-jr_What's the wifi config app included with Kubuntu 6.06?04:04
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trappistluke-jr_: kwifimanager04:04
m4x1mumhow to disable the bluetooth service? i dont even need them04:04
luke-jr_trappist: no, kwifimanager is different04:04
luke-jr_the program I mean has a list of APs and such04:04
luke-jr_and a wizard to connect to em04:04
intelikeym4x1mum man update-rc.d04:05
InteliWaspanyone know how to chace down a usb problem?04:05
Dr_willisCOntrol Center -> system admin -> system Services04:05
m4x1mumi dont even know the bluetooth service name04:05
Dr_willisit has blue in the name i bet04:05
trappistInteliWasp: try this "I'm having <this usb problem>.  I've done <these troubleshooting steps> but <this> still happens when I do <that>.  what should I look at next?"04:06
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Dr_willisbluez i think04:06
HawkwindThere is also bluez-utils04:06
m4x1mumbluez-utils? safe to disable?04:06
intelikeym4x1mum yes04:06
trappistm4x1mum: yes.  sudo update-rc.d -f bluez-utils remove (I think)04:07
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InteliWaspi am not sure where to start but when my ipod is pluged in a USB port, it randomly unmounts and pops up the "what do you want to do with this device?" screen and yes interupting data transfers...04:08
Dr_willisOptimus OLED Keyboard Linux Driver is a driver for the Art Lebedev Studio's Optimus keyboard.04:08
Dr_willisI want one. :P04:08
trappistInteliWasp: that sounds like a hardware problem.  when it does that, check the output of dmesg and see if you can spot an event just before it umounts.04:08
InteliWaspi want the keyboard more than the 3 button thingy04:09
InteliWasptrappist: ok i'll try that04:09
m4x1mumtransferring the first 30Gb first :(04:09
tony_am i right to assume KDE is writen using Qt ??04:09
trappistInteliWasp: also, consider trying a different usb port.  sounds like something may be loose.04:09
trappisttony_: yes04:09
m4x1mumgah 10 minute to transfer04:10
tony_im trying to learn c++ and im getting Qt.. , BUT need to learn linux inside and out first04:10
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tony_so iguess 10 years from now i can write HELLO WORLD04:10
m4x1mumi never use Qt before... i like GTK04:10
Dr_willistony_,  it helps :)04:10
linuxkid2what was that program again?04:11
trappisttony_: maybe try some other language with qt bindings.  python or ruby, for instance.  you can have a hello world in no time.  less than no time if you use kdevelop :)04:11
tony_i like qt based on what read, it has good support for gui tools and lots of classes04:11
InteliWasphas KDE4 been tested with the K7 kernel yet?04:11
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tony_:) blushing.. i aint that smart , will still take me time04:11
m4x1mumi tried wxwidget a bit as well, i find it pretty good too04:11
BlackenI heart KDE, but I heart GTK more for development.04:11
intelikeyperl seems convoluted to me04:11
trappistInteliWasp: the specific kernel optimizations should have no impact on how any version of kde works04:12
tony_GTK , where can i get more info on that04:12
Blackentony_: Google?04:12
tony_yehh, will gooole around04:12
m4x1mumgtk is C not C++04:12
trappistintelikey: perl is nice.  or so I thought until I found ruby.04:12
tony_thanks :(04:12
tony_but i guess c++ nore native to linux . right ?04:12
trappisttony_: no04:13
BlackenGTK may be C, but you can wrap it fine.04:13
linuxkid2not really04:13
m4x1mumthere is a wrapper for gtk04:13
trappisttony_: there's no such concept as one language being more or less 'native' to linux than any other.  linux itself is written in C.04:13
linuxkid2C is originally for Unix, as is C++04:13
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intelikeytony_ also you can google with linux specific searches   google.com/linux04:13
tony_interest in qt is due to the fact that i can port my work for different platform04:14
m4x1mumgtk is also a platform independent04:14
tony_thank intelikey didn't know that trick04:14
linuxkid2GTK works sort of on windows,04:14
linuxkid2but looks alien04:14
trappisttony_: that's true of gtk as well.  not to mention other toolkits.  wxwindows for instance.04:14
Tm_Tlinuxkid2: Qt works too04:14
linuxkid2I know QT works04:14
m4x1mumwxwidget works best for windows04:14
intelikeylinux is the kernel   all the gnu stuff that most people call "linux"   is a hinz 57 kerr04:14
m4x1mumbut wxwidget in linux...they are using gtk underneath lol04:15
BlackenGTK doesn't look bad in Windows if you theme it right.04:15
BlackenWimp-theme is okay.04:15
linuxkid2I know that linux is only one program in the system, but the name stuck. GNU?Linux is an awkward name.04:15
tony_ohh god, themes. no talent in design <<<<<<<04:15
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tony_still trying to figure how to make a template for my zen cart :|04:16
Tm_Tthat reminds me, should (try) compile kopete in windows someday soon04:16
intelikeycode from every where and in every language  as well as plain venella bash scripts04:16
BlackenGNU/Linux is a ridiculous idea, and whoever supports it had better be ready to call it GNU/KDE/X/Linux.04:16
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sureshcan someone help me with a problem gpg error...pubkey not found.04:16
trappistsuresh: have you made a public/private key pair?04:16
linuxkid2Let's do that from the highest level to the lowest: KDE/QT/X11/GNU/Linux04:16
trappistguys, politican stuff in #kubuntu-offtopic please.  this is a support channel.04:17
sureshno i am fairly new to this...04:17
sureshhow do i do it.04:17
tony_sorry , my fault for starting this04:17
intelikeyBlacken but what if i don't have kde or xorg  just gnu/linux   :)04:17
tony_<<<blushing >>>04:17
trappistsuresh: gpg --gen-key04:17
m4x1mumthere is gnome :)04:17
sureshtrappist i type that on the terminal?04:18
trappistsuresh: yes04:18
linuxkid2intelikey: that's GNU/Linux. my debian server is like that.04:18
m4x1mum3minute more to go!!04:18
tony_i realy do like KDE . and the idea that i can use Theme . if i ever find on that i like .04:18
intelikeym4x1mum or twm or xfce or blackbox or fluxbox or ////04:18
linuxkid2I read the testdisk man page. How do I use it?04:18
trappistsuresh: I recommend using a really secure passphrase.  your gpg private key, if you use it as intended, is probably the single most sensitive item on your machine.04:18
m4x1mumi've heard of blackbox... thats the lightweight ones isn't it?04:19
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trappistm4x1mum: one of em, yes04:19
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Blackenm4x1mum: It's good. Fluxbox is based on it and my personal lightweight preference.04:19
FaLc[ON] 2hi all04:19
trappist+1 Blacken04:20
linuxkid2blackbox is lightweight. Fluxbox is an enhanced blackbox, and hackerbox is stripped down.04:20
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FaLc[ON] 2somebody can help me?? i've a little probem04:20
suresh(1) DSA and Elgamal (default)04:20
suresh   (2) DSA (sign only)04:20
suresh   (5) RSA (sign only)04:20
trappistand ratpoison is like wtf is this04:20
linuxkid2no mouse. I know.04:20
m4x1mumnext time someone should make shoebox lol04:20
trappistsuresh: just hit enter to accept the default04:20
luke-jr_What's the wifi config app included with Kubuntu 6.06?04:20
sureshtrappist: this gpg key what is the real use?04:20
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FaLc[ON] 2please ... :)04:21
intelikeym4x1mum i loaded mandrake 9.0 on a 80486 lappy with 16m ram and 124m hdd     GNU/linux  that is.04:21
sureshtrappist: What is the default key sze?04:21
trappistsuresh: you use it to encrypt files, emails, etc., which might be a big deal, but you also use it to sign files and messages, to prove they come from you.  that's a pretty big deal, and you wouldn't want that compromised.04:21
intelikeym4x1mum yeah all those a named are lightweight gui's04:21
trappistsuresh: I don't know what the default size is.  I'd go with at least 204804:21
intelikeym4x1mum twm being the lightest.   twm is about 300k   :)04:22
linuxkid2hey, I screwed my root partition, am running from liveCD, and want to know how to use testdisk to recover my system. or at least data.04:22
luke-jr_linuxkid2: that the GUI app too?04:22
m4x1mumlol damn so small04:22
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trappistlinuxkid2: if you're the guy who dd'ed a floppy image to hda0 your time would be better spent reinstalling04:22
linuxkid2luke-jr: wireless assistant, wlassistant, is the GUI wireless program04:22
m4x1mumis there any defragmentation tool for kubuntu?04:22
trappistm4x1mum: unnecessary.  and, afaik, no.04:23
intelikeym4x1mum yes.   it runs in X  so the size of the base xorg is still the same.04:23
linuxkid2trappist: yeah I am, but I want my home dir. (This time i'm using a separate partition.)04:23
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m4x1mumunnecessary? linux do not suffer from fragmentation?04:23
trappistm4x1mum: it automatically defrags all the time04:23
intelikeym4x1mum never saw one.04:24
linuxkid2m4x1mum: ext3 doesn't really.04:24
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m4x1mumooh ok04:24
tony_woow.. thats interesting to know .. no defrags04:24
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unix_infidelits not that it DOESNT defrag.04:24
m4x1mumyeah its new to me too lol04:24
Dr_willisIsent Linux Amazing!04:24
Ahmuckhi, i am having problems with connecting to the internet in kubuntu.  i noticed in some of the settings is shows ip604:24
Ahmuckis there a way i can fix this ?04:24
unix_infidelit defrags automatically.04:25
trappistunix_infidel: you mean, it's not that it doesn't fragment :)04:25
linuxkid2so, does anybody know how I can use testdisk to save my home dir?04:25
tony_it sure getting more and more interesting for me :)..04:25
trappistAhmuck: ipv6 support won't keep you from connecting04:25
Dr_willisI though any fragmention - dosent affect system preformacne04:25
unix_infideltrappist: no, some of the above said it doesnt defrag.04:25
unix_infideltrappist: and ext3 does fragment as well.04:25
trappistDr_willis: fragmentation does effect performance04:25
unix_infidelits negligible at best.04:25
intelikeym4x1mum ext#fs can but generally doesn't suffer from fragmentation.    most non-contiguous i have seen yet is 5.2%   and that's really really rare04:25
trappistunix_infidel: what I mean is, all filesystems fragment.  and all linux filesystems defrag automatically.04:25
Ahmuckhrm, then i am not sure why i am not connecting.  i am getting an ip address04:25
unix_infideltrappist: heh, you dont have to explain it to me :)04:26
trappistintelikey: yeah that's quite a bit more than I've ever seen04:26
trappistunix_infidel: oh ok :)04:26
intelikeym4x1mum normal is  0.5%04:26
Dr_willisthis conversation is fragmented. :P04:26
m4x1mumbut what if i do stuff like download lots of small files and then delete some then add some more then delete some04:26
intelikeyor less04:26
unix_infidelDr_willis: ftw.04:26
trappistAhmuck: can you ping your default gateway?04:26
linuxkid2so, does anybody know how I can use testdisk to save my home dir? Please?04:26
sureshtrappist: ok it's done....for here where do i go....04:26
unix_infidelsuresh: what exactly are you trying to do with gpg?04:26
trappistm4x1mum: that will cause fragmentation, which will be dealt with automatically.04:26
Ahmuckit does not list a default gateway.  i should be getting dhcp from my ips04:26
m4x1mumooh ok04:27
trappistsuresh: well, now you have a public/private key pair.  what did you want to do next?04:27
intelikeywhat's the perscription Dr_willis ?04:27
Ahmuckis there a way to do a similar command in dapper such as "ipconfig /renew"04:27
trappistAhmuck: what does "route -n | grep ^0" say04:27
trappistAhmuck: sudo dhclient04:27
trappistAhmuck: or, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart04:27
Ahmucktrappist: i will have to reboot04:27
trappistAhmuck: no04:28
Dr_willisintelikey,  4 double Espressos and then a handfull of chocklet-covered coffee beans04:28
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m4x1mumsigh transferring the next 30Gb :(04:28
sureshtrappist: well actually....you know i was trying to update04:28
trappistAhmuck: reboots are for hardware and kernel upgrades04:28
Ahmuckyea, i am double os on here04:28
sureshtrappist: well apt-update04:28
unix_infidelsuresh: trying to update, as in apt-get update?04:28
tony_Ahmuck: did you chose eth0 as you default gateway ???04:28
Ahmuckso i am windows currently04:28
m4x1mumi got dual boot too04:28
unix_infidelsuresh: well you dont need to create public private keys to do that.04:28
trappistsuresh: um... haha, you didn't need a gpg key for yourself, you needed to add the gpg key from the mirror you're using :)04:28
trappistAhmuck: ah.  nm then.04:28
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m4x1mumwindows for playing games, linux for everything else :)04:29
sureshtrappist: what?04:29
unix_infidelsuresh: hold up, lemme find you a tutorial real quick.04:29
linuxkid2c'mon, the testdisk man page is spare and cryptic. I'd like to know how to use it. Whoever recommended it had better speak up.04:29
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trappistsuresh: this is one reason it helps to be as specific as possible when you ask a question :)  all that stuff didn't get you any closer.04:29
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unix_infidelsuresh: ^^^^^04:29
unix_infidelthat should get you on your way.04:29
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fateisajesteris there a program i can use to mount an iso like a cd like daemon tools?04:29
sureshtrappist: sorry man...04:30
unix_infidelfateisajester: mount.04:30
m4x1mumlol the same question like yesterday04:30
fateisajesteris it a gui?04:30
trappistsuresh: but, now it might be easier to understand: the packages are signed with someone's gpg key, so you can know they came from who they're supposed to come from, and haven't been modified.04:30
unix_infidelfateisajester: no, of course not.04:30
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks04:30
m4x1mum!mount iso04:30
ubotumount: Tools for mounting and manipulating filesystems. In component main, is required. Version 2.12r-4ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 149 kB, installed size 336 kB04:30
sureshtrappist; Ok i understand..04:31
ubotulinux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux04:31
linuxkid2faeisajester: mount <file> -t <type> <mountpointdir>04:31
m4x1mumhmmmm forgot the command04:31
trappistm4x1mum: I think it's !mountiso04:31
trappistm4x1mum: try, /msg ubotu mountiso04:31
ubotuTo mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows04:31
m4x1mumaah there ya go04:31
m4x1mumyou see this fateisajester ?!?!?!04:32
fateisajesteryes than you very much04:32
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m4x1mumwooow transferring 11,000+ files04:33
linuxkid2so, who recommended testdisk for partition recovery? I'm the idiot who dd'ed a floppy onto my root partition.04:33
unix_infidelm4x1mum: might have tar-ed them up first eh?04:33
m4x1mumi dont even connect my floppy to my mobo04:33
sureshtrappist: do i do exactly what it says on the site?04:33
m4x1mumaah no way, that 11,000 files is 30Gb in size in total thats too slow04:34
trappistsuresh: I haven't looked at the site, but probably04:34
linuxkid2I meant to copy an image to the floppy disk, and copied to hda1 instead.04:34
unix_infidelsuresh: no, not exactly.04:34
trappistlinuxkid2: I like to sit back and stare for a while at any command that starts with 'sudo dd' before hitting enter.04:35
linuxkid2On a live CD, trying to make a boot floppy for the LiveCD for another computer, it didn't even warn me, it was over before I knew it.04:35
SeanTaterm4x1mum: just tarred and gzipped 11GB here04:35
sureshunix_infidel: well yes tell me...04:35
unix_infidelsuresh: well, if you dont want skype, you dont add that line to your sources.list.04:35
intelikeylinuxkid2 i recommended it  but someone else was talking to you and trying to help.   so what's the progress ?04:35
tksoulrider: you around?04:35
unix_infidelsame goes for opera and some of the other 3rd party repos.04:35
tkHawkwind: or you might know?04:35
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m4x1mumtransferring 10Gb of data :( damn 2 more main folder worth of 20Gb left phew then i can reformat to ext304:36
linuxkid2intelikey: I've got the Kubuntu CD running and have installed testdisk. I've read the man page but can't figure it out.04:36
unix_infidelm4x1mum: i'm sure you gzipped that thing first :P04:36
intelikeylinuxkid2 yep linux is good that way.  when you are root you better not tell it to do something you don't really want it to do....04:36
linuxkid2stupid liveCD.04:37
unix_infidelsuresh: do you understand?04:37
linuxkid2It was puppy, which forces you to use su to become a REGULAR user.04:37
m4x1mumnah most of them is movies and mp3 and some compressed cd image, so i dont think gzip them is gonna help04:37
intelikeylinuxkid2 in the konsole  do    sduo testdisk04:37
intelikeysudo testdisk04:37
unix_infidelm4x1mum: well, tar would've definately helped, no doubt about it.04:37
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linuxkid2ok, got a curses-type app.04:37
soulriderhet tk04:38
soulriderdamn, Kubuntu needs something like Mandriva's net_applet04:38
soulriderits friggin awesome04:38
unix_infidelintelikey: well, trappist doesnt REALLY know his way around a nix box, so i think you're safe.04:38
linuxkid2intelikey: ok, got a curses-type app.04:38
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tksoulrider: you familiar with Gallery2 at all? :P I got it setup but I cant make it "import" the images I already have... hmmm04:38
sureshunix_infidel: the keys that was not found where for opera and04:39
soulriderno idea TK04:39
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felixjethi :D04:39
linuxkid2intelikey: now what?04:39
soulriderdoes anyone know if a program similar to Mandriva's net_applet i can use in kubuntu? its exactly what i need04:39
tksoulrider: figured it out i think :)04:39
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intelikeylinuxkid2 yes.   and read what it says and answer accordingly04:39
sureshunix infidel: : GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release:04:39
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linuxkid2intelikey: should I analyze hda?04:40
sureshunix infidel: how do i sort this out..04:40
unix_infidelsuresh: well, think about it this way, each of those lines in the first part talks about online servers where you can get programs (like firefox and gaim and konversation)04:40
intelikeylinuxkid2  scan the affected disk04:40
sureshunix infidel: ok04:40
intelikeyyes if hda is the affected disk04:40
m4x1mum999files total of 5.6Gb :( im getting sick of waiting for file transfer04:40
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unix_infidelthe last part talks about keys, just like you would open a door with, every door has a right key.  so you want each package to have a key so you know its suppose to be installed on your computer before you install it.04:41
trappistunix_infidel: you're lucky I'm too busy reading digg to see that ;)04:41
unix_infidelsuresh: just like you wouldnt let 123.exe install on your windows box from im.a.hacker.com04:41
soulrideris ther a place where we can suggets things for Edgy? or make requests ?04:41
unix_infideltrappist: :P04:41
Ahmuckk, dhclient shows the address belonging to an old firewall/router.  network settings show a ip address from my isp and a gateway of 192.168.1.x range.  so i don 't quite understand what is going on with the routing, however, is there a way to /renew the dhcp address (/release) and flush the local dns cache ?04:41
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m4x1mumwhat is edgy? is it still kubuntu?04:41
soulriderits what will come after dapper04:42
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m4x1mumooh so mine is outdated?04:42
linuxkid2intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25936/04:42
sureshunix infidel: I get it.04:42
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linuxkid2intelikey: testdisk output.04:42
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soulridernot yet m4x1mum04:42
ccherretthow does one cp files from a firewire device that I do not have permissions to. I cannot su to root04:43
intelikeym4x1mum yes the next release of kubuntu.04:43
unix_infidelsuresh: so, each of those lines in the first part (the sources.list) part is a place where you can get packages, determine WHICH PACKAGES you want and which ones you dont want, remove the lines from the packages you dont want.04:43
m4x1mumnow transferring 2722files lol04:43
m4x1mumdamn how to make numlock to turn on automatically?04:43
shaslapi cant seem to enable my broadcom 4318 wireless card, is there something i need to install?04:44
felixjetkopete is good for msn04:44
linuxkid2unix_infidel: sources.list says which servers apt should download from. they are categorized by license and type mostly.04:44
unix_infidelsuresh: and then, look at the part that says "source-keys" at the bottom and match them up with whatever parts from the sources.list part you decided to include. and then issue them (as root)04:44
linuxkid2nothing tops aMSN for MSN clone.04:44
intelikeylinuxkid2 yeah proceed04:44
Ahmuck! flushdns04:44
sureshunix infidel: trying them now.04:44
m4x1mumbah i don't even use MSN even in windows04:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flushdns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:44
m4x1mumi use Trillian in windows :)04:45
Ahmuck! renew ip04:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about renew ip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:45
unix_infidellinuxkid2: i'm not getting into the intricacies of sources.list as you wouldnt try to explain cgi to a C newbie :P04:45
ccherrettwhen I type sudo cd dir it tells me that sodu: cd: command not found04:45
ccherrettwhat am I doing wrong?04:45
Ahmuck! dhcp04:45
ubotudhcp: DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0pl5-19.4 (dapper), package size 107 kB, installed size 304 kB04:45
Ahmuck! dhcp renew04:45
linuxkid2unix_infidel: I don't know the intricies either.04:45
unix_infidelccherrett: because its sudo.04:45
m4x1mumthrow away the sudo04:45
unix_infidelccherrett: and you can usually cd into any dir you want as normal user.04:46
unix_infidelso you dont need the "sudo" part before "cd"04:46
unix_infideljust cd /path/to/dir/04:46
ccherrettunix_infidel: when I just cd it tells me permission denied04:46
linuxkid2intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25937/04:46
unix_infidelccherrett: which dir?04:46
ccherrettin konqueror it shows with a lock04:46
ccherrettit is a backup of my home dir from my last install of Mandriva04:47
unix_infidelccherrett: what errors does it give you?04:47
ccherrettbash: cd: Desktop/: Permission denied04:47
unix_infidelnot when you do "sudo cd" but just "cd /mandriva/backup/"04:47
soulrideranyone know where i can request a feature for edgy ?04:48
intelikeylinuxkid2 looks like you should close it and blank the first 512bites of the hd04:48
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ccherrettdrwx------   7  500  500      4096 2006-10-07 00:15 Desktop04:48
unix_infidelccherrett: my first guess would be to chown whatever parts of the backup you deem necessary.04:48
linuxkid2intelikey: and how?04:48
intelikeylinuxkid2 sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda count=104:48
unix_infidelccherrett: permissions sound right to me.04:48
unix_infidelmight be an ownership issue.04:48
intelikeythen sudo testdisk    again04:48
linuxkid2intelikey: that makes me nervouse but I'll do it.04:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tibia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:49
rafaelany play tibia ?04:49
unix_infidelccherrett: ahh, my mistake.04:49
intelikeylinuxkid2 it thinks it's the floppy you dd'd there  so you need to kill the floppy then use the testdisk app to fix the hdd04:49
unix_infidelyou need to OWN the file in order to get the permissions for the folder.04:50
m4x1mumlinux owned ya04:50
unix_infidelm4x1mum: ?04:50
m4x1mum:) nothing04:50
sureshunix infidel: Well for some reason this does not seem right...04:50
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linuxkid2intelikey: here's the new testdisk page: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25938/04:51
SuprUs3rIn Soviet Russia, you not own file, file own you!04:51
ccherrettunix_infidel: thanks that worked04:51
unix_infidelccherrett: np, enjoy your transition from Mandriva to Kubuntu :)04:51
m4x1mumsay when i share a folder in samba, does all the sub folder shared as well?04:51
ccherrettI am just getting use to the sudo thing and what is and is not04:51
unix_infidelSuprUs3r: in soviet russia, everything is a file.04:51
unix_infideloh wait....04:51
intelikeylinuxkid2 better.  proceed04:51
ccherrettMandriva just would not configure my devices propperly04:52
SuprUs3runix_infidel: You are not user, you are luser.04:52
unix_infidelSuprUs3r: no, i'm a lua user in windows.04:52
unix_infidelin linspire i'm a super user.04:52
ccherrettI just installed Mandriva 2007 and so many things were broken04:52
intelikeyluser / puser / muser / user    meeeh04:52
unix_infidelccherrett: i left mandriva after i tried 10.1 and didnt like it.04:52
ccherrettso after 6 years of Mandrake/Mandriva I uninstalled and KUBUNTUed it04:53
rafaelany play tibia ?04:53
unix_infidelat that time it was called mandrake.04:53
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m4x1mumi wanted to install mandrake at first for playing around with linux :)04:53
ccherrettkubuntu detected everything that I can see04:53
linuxkid2intelikey: this still doesn't look good http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25939/04:53
m4x1mumbut there is this website that have a top 10 distribution and ubuntu is no 1 hehehe04:54
ccherrettHawkwind: I just switched from Mandriva to KUBUNTU :)04:54
m4x1mumand i heard that KDE is pretty popular, so i go with kubuntu04:54
m4x1mumyeah i think its distrowatch04:54
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m4x1mummy university use fedora core :)04:55
linuxkid2Ubuntu is No.1 distro, and KDE is No.1 DE, and Kubuntu is only like No.12?04:55
unix_infidelsuresh: follow this guide EXACTLY and you should find yourself happy.04:55
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intelikeylinuxkid2 line 25 in that pastebin  "25. EXT3 Sparse superblock Recover, 11876 MB"   that's what you want, isn't it ?04:56
Ahmuckany idea on my connection problems ?04:56
linuxkid2intelikey: that shows when I select the Linux partition in the above box. it shows FAT12 1MB when I select the FAT 12. It is the old one I think.04:57
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ghostshadow189hi all , i installed icewm with "sudo apt-get install icewm iceconf iceme" . after that , i loged out and choosed icewm session . but unfornately , it didnt display anything , like toolbar , start menu , etc . it just displayed a blue desktop  . i also tried ctrl+alt+esc and i saw window list , so that mean maybe i installed icewm successfully , but still there're some mistake ?04:57
linuxkid2intelikey: so is it L or enter?04:57
intelikeylinuxkid2 select the linux partition and enter04:57
m4x1mumok people do i unmount the /dev/sdb1 before formating?04:58
intelikeym4x1mum yes04:58
intelikeynever format a mounted fs04:58
m4x1mumhow do i reformat harddisk in the first place?04:58
travis_Unmount the partitions and then use a tool like cfdisk04:59
intelikeym4x1mum you partition (if you are normal) the disk and mke2fs the partition04:59
fastdukewill mkfs even let you format a mounted partition?04:59
linuxkid2intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25941/05:00
intelikeyfastduke not supposed to. but don't trust safty devices.05:00
m4x1mummke2fs can make ext3 file system?05:00
rafaelany play tibia in linux?05:00
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Dr_willisI broke my Tibia once...05:00
intelikeym4x1mum yes   mke2fs -j -c /dev/hda1    hda1 is example only05:01
ghostshadow189s1 help me pls , i installed icewm with "sudo apt-get install icewm iceconf iceme" . after that , i loged out and choosed icewm session . but unfornately , it didnt display anything , like toolbar , start menu , etc . it just displayed a blue desktop  . i also tried ctrl+alt+esc and i saw window list , so that mean maybe i installed icewm successfully , but still there're some mistake ?05:01
Dr_willisghostshadow189,  odd.. its worked for me befor05:01
ghostshadow189u installed like i did ?05:02
intelikeylinuxkid2 looks like you probably had a swap partition too ?   use the search feature.05:02
Dr_willistheres only so many ways to install it. :P05:02
linuxkid2intelikey: yeah I did.05:02
Dr_willisicewm is nice in ways.. lacking in others05:02
Dr_willistry installing some other window managers like fluxbox and windowmaker05:03
Dr_willisand see if they work05:03
intelikeytwm is nice in ways..... just no one likes those ways....05:03
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linuxkid2fluxbox or kde for me :)05:03
ghostshadow189Dr_willis , do u think i should config again xorg05:03
ghostshadow189maybe it not work in icewm ?05:03
sureshunix infidel: nope still there's an error, i'm fed up with this05:03
Dr_willisxorgs confifuration should NOT affect icewm at all.05:04
Dr_willisicewm runs on top of X.. if X is broke - its broke for all them. :P05:04
ghostshadow189oh :(05:04
Dr_willis!info iceme05:05
ubotuiceme: A graphical menu editor for IceWM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-12ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 36 kB, installed size 296 kB05:05
ghostshadow189i cant understand what happned with my icewm ????????05:05
Dr_willishave you ever used icewm befor on that machine?05:05
intelikeyxfree86/xorg/xgl   that about exhousts the list of actual gui's the rest are de/ce/wm 's05:05
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Dr_willislet me test this.. brb05:05
ghostshadow189Dr_willis : no05:05
ghostshadow189i've just bought a new comp05:06
ghostshadow189and i'm install it :D05:06
intelikey<Dr_willis> let me test this.. brb05:06
intelikey-:- SignOff Dr_willis: #kubuntu ("Leaving")05:06
intelikey<ghostshadow189> Dr_willis : no05:06
intelikeyas in already gone.....05:07
fastdukeintelikey, I don't know cause I've never tried to format a mounted partition :)05:07
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fastdukeI just figured it would freak out05:07
linuxkid2fastduke: you just cant05:07
linuxkid2why would you want to anyway.05:07
intelikeyfastduke [ freak out == error out ]   && echo yes05:08
Dr_willisicewm works for me..i installed it exactly how you did05:08
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ghostshadow189Dr_willis : thanx , i'll try it again :(05:09
ghostshadow189oh Dr_willis : can u tell me again wat exactly u done ? step by step pls ;)05:10
intelikeyDr_willis ghostshadow189 it's not one of those silent error thingys is it ?     sudo apt-get install -f      ?05:10
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sureshunix infidel: sorry man seem to be stuck here!05:11
Dr_willisghostshadow189,  i cut/pasted what you said you did.. that installed a few programs.. i  loggedout of X.. and selected icewm in the KDM menus05:11
intelikeylinuxkid2 how you progressing ?05:11
ghostshadow189:-/ , i'll try again . anyway , thanx05:11
sureshunix infidel:W: GPG error: http://deb.opera.com etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 033431536A42379105:11
intelikeydigressing ?05:12
linuxkid2intelikey: still scanning :/05:12
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craigbass1976I've looked aroudn the desktop for a couple days now and can't find how to shut off the login sound in KDE.  I stopped the drum at the login screen, but not the sound that palys once KDE is finished firing up.  Anyone know how?05:12
intelikeylet'r run.05:12
linuxkid2craigbass: if it aint in the kubuntu system settings, it might be in the hidden kde control panel. run kcontrol05:13
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intelikeycraigbass1976 system >> settings  >> admin >> login settings05:14
intelikeycraigbass1976 i think that's where it's at but havent actually checked05:14
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craigbass1976I found it in kcontrol.  I'm actually using ubuntu CE, and just installed it last week.  Found to my surprise that a wicked loud sound plays at start up, which happened to be in church as the pastor was starting the message....  Thanks linuxkid205:16
intelikeyi can't actually check.05:16
intelikeyit requores a password and i don't have one.05:16
linuxkid2craigbass1976: also System Settings => Sound & Multimedia => System Notifications05:17
Dr_willisubuntu CE :)05:18
Dr_willisI still get amuzed that such a thing exists05:18
linuxkid2intelikey: why's this taking so long to scan?05:18
craigbass1976Ahhh.  Cool.  I also found (and it's weird that I never stumble across this until a couuple days ago) that I can make Ctrl+K open up a terminal.  Been using KDE in Fedora since FC1 and never realized.05:18
linuxkid2what's Ubuntu CE? PocketPC or something?05:18
intelikeyit's scanning the disk   how big is the disk ?05:19
sureshanyone who can help me?05:19
craigbass1976Dr_willis, did you see the joke page about CE?  You'd have to look in the forums, but some were quite funny05:19
linuxkid2intelikey: ~13GB It only took like 2 minutes last time.05:19
unix_infidellinuxkid2: what kinda network you on?05:19
intelikeylinuxkid2 how ever long it would normally take to check for bad secrots is 'about' how long it will take to search for partitions/file systems05:20
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craigbass1976linuxkid2, christian edition.   I think the biggest difference is Gnomesword being installed by default, but i've never run stock ubuntu so I don't know.05:20
intelikeyunix_infidel i think that's local to him05:20
linuxkid2unix_infidel: DSL 256kbps.05:20
unix_infidelhmm, 10MB or 10GB05:21
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linuxkid2I'd rather a Mormon edition :-)05:21
intelikeyunix_infidel 13 G    hda05:21
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unix_infideloh, from partition to partition.05:21
unix_infidelstill that's an overstatement.05:21
intelikeyunix_infidel no05:22
unix_infidelthat's roughly 6.5GB per minute.05:22
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intelikeyunix_infidel i guess you missed the start of that.   he dd'd a floppy image to hda rather than fd005:24
linuxkid2intelikey: what's up with the FAT12 instead of FAT16 or vfat?05:24
unix_infidelintelikey: yea, i tend to just but in without scrolling up :P05:24
ubuntu_hey, i'm trying to install kubuntu onto /dev/hdf, but the install only seems to allow me to select /dev/hda or /dev/hdb for partitioning.05:24
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intelikeylinuxkid2 it's the floppy image.05:24
linuxkid2intelikey: I know, but why is it 12 instead of 26 or 32, which are the only ones I've heard of.05:25
fastdukefat12 has always been the floppy format05:25
intelikeyfloppies are default fat12  but can be formated ext# vfat fat16 minux or others05:25
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linuxkid2hmm, fat means file allocation table, and ntfs is nt files system, what's ext?05:26
intelikeynew technology file system    iirc05:27
orkid__EXTended File System05:27
madorbwell, that's if you believe that nt means new technology05:27
madorbsome people claim it does, some claim it means nothing05:27
orkid__NETWORK technology, not new05:27
linuxkid2well, NT is newer than DOS.05:27
madorbntfs means NT file system, nt doesn't stand for anything in my opinion05:27
linuxkid2I thought it was New Tech05:27
orkid__and it actually DOES mean network, since 3.1 was bad with networking, 3.11 had it kind of hacked in, and NT was really a networking product (3.5 server, etc)05:28
madorbso, why won't the installer let me partition & install to /dev/hdf?05:28
craigbass1976No Telling (when it will break next)?05:28
linuxkid2i know. windows 3.x-me was desktops, and NT-2000 was servers.05:28
linuxkid2now what? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25942/05:29
linuxkid2ok, thanks.05:30
linuxkid2madorb: hdf sounds strange. how many harddrives you got?05:30
madorbphysical drives05:30
madorb2 big ones05:30
madorband one 40 gig that has two partitions, one windows, one linux05:31
linuxkid2a is #1, b #2, and c usually is cdrom05:31
linuxkid2why f?05:31
madorbwhich kubuntu sees as /dev/hdf05:31
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orkid__actually, you might be right, that it means 'new technology'. my bad.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_NT05:32
linuxkid2madorb: may have to use alternate install if ubiquity wont do it.05:32
orkid__scroll down to 'NT' Designation05:32
madorbno idea why it sees it as f05:32
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intelikeylinuxkid2 looks like 8-13 are the backup supperblocks for the main partition and the swap is of course the end05:32
linuxkid2intelikey: so what do I do now?05:33
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intelikeyhit T on that first one "the floppy" and see if you can delete it05:33
linuxkid2madorb: there's a CD that is the old cli install method that might work.05:33
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linuxkid2intelikey: ya mean d?05:34
madorbi've got the DVD so it should have alternate install as well05:34
linuxkid2never mind05:34
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linuxkid2intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25943/05:35
intelikeylinuxkid2 looking05:35
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linuxkid2madorb: if you do then it might be a boot option,05:36
intelikeyok no option to delete there.  so proceed even with the added fat1205:36
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madorbyeah i'll reboot and give it a peep05:36
madorbthanks guys05:36
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=== intelikey is kinda curious about that situation....
intelikeyi may have to dd a floppy to a hdd just to play with it.05:37
linuxkid2I clicked proceed and it asked for "New Partition Type"05:38
intelikeyback up and try again...  ?05:38
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linuxkid2entered ? and it brought me back to the screen two before.05:39
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Ahmuckhow do i clear ip information in kubuntu ?05:39
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intelikeyAhmuck which/where/what ip information05:42
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Ahmucki am unable to connect using kubuntu.  i have before.  i need to flush out my ip and renew05:43
intelikeyman ifconfig05:44
intelikeyor use a gui app   that i know nothing about.05:44
linuxkid2i'm back05:44
Momalanyone use a screen capture program to record video on screen ?05:45
intelikeyi'm scanning a disk now so i can see what you are up against linuxkid205:45
linuxkid2intelikey: must be kind of weird to know all that CLI stuff and be behind on the gui.05:45
Momalcould not open default font 'fixed' <-- does anyone know a fix for that?.. I have tried reinstall X and everything but still no luck :S05:45
intelikeylinuxkid2 i've been called that.05:45
fastdukeAhmuck, "ifdown eth0" then you can run "dhclient eth0"05:45
orkid__what's the firefox java plugin in kubuntu packaged as?05:45
orkid__1.5, preferably sun05:46
linuxkid2hey, if you use linux desktop, you're weird. :) as in "not normal"05:46
fastdukedhclient will let you see the conversation05:46
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository05:46
intelikeylinux desktop    is that an app ?05:47
Ahmuckfastduke: is there a way to "reset" the network info so dhcp will do auto ?05:47
Momallinuxkid2: I don't find people using linux desktop are weird... but windows on the other hand :p05:47
linuxkid2linux on the destkop.05:47
linuxkid2I meant normal as in mainstream.05:47
linuxkid2linux server on the other hand...05:47
fastdukeAhmuck, what do you mean?05:47
linuxkid2Ahmuck: try System Settings => Network05:48
linuxkid2you can set to auto DHCP i there.05:48
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Momalcould not open default font 'fixed' <-- anyone have quick fix to that error? (I notice it trying to run vncserver)05:48
zOrKis kubuntu stable as ubuntu05:49
maryenzOrK: yes, and cooler to boot05:49
unix_infidelzOrK: yes, next question?05:49
intelikeymy dad is 65 years old and about two months ago he sat down at my computer and looked at a web page   was the first he ever had a mouse in his hand  and has never typed anything in.    it being my system... he has still hever tuched anything M$05:49
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fastdukezOrK, you are comparing KDE to Gnome if you ask me05:49
zOrKfastduke,  ok05:49
Momalyea kubuntu and ubuntu are exact same just one had kde and one has gnome :p05:50
zOrKDoes kubuntu has the same problem as ubuntu with Broadcom   wireless cards?05:50
linuxkid2If you get "weaned" on Mac or Linux, you can never be satisfied with Windows.05:50
linuxkid2isn't that a kernel thing?05:50
maryenno! kubuntu was made with pixie dust while ubuntu was made with reruns of wings05:50
Momallol! so true linuxkid2 :p05:50
maryenyes sorta05:51
Momalmaryen: where can I get some of this pixie dust ?05:51
maryenbut wireless is generally easy to handle05:51
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linuxkid2I had Mac 7-8 till I was about 9, and then we got a Win98 and, well, I miss the mac.05:51
maryenfdoving should have some05:51
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TehKewl1err.... any ideas on this error: Could not find mime type05:51
zOrKthat one linuxkid205:51
maryenthat guide will work on kubuntu and ubuntu05:52
linuxkid2ah. I don't have one.05:52
zOrKyes I know05:52
=== fastduke they are one in the same
linuxkid2intelikey: how do you use that * thingy?05:52
TehKewl1 /me whatever05:52
fastduke /me05:52
fastdukeTehKewl1, fast05:53
zOrKdownloading kubuntu05:53
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TehKewl1now fix my error >:O05:53
maryendo you have ubuntu installed zork?05:53
TehKewl1linux and nintendo IMHO :D05:53
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zOrKyes maryen , but somewhat I don't wanna use ubuntu05:53
=== fastduke ???Cellos???
zOrKI wanna learn linux.. ubuntu has everything already installed.05:53
intelikeylinuxkid2 which thingy ?05:53
linuxkid2as opposed to violins.05:53
zOrKkubuntu too, but let's try it05:53
maryenjust type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop zork05:53
zOrKI can't speak without proving it.05:53
linuxkid2never mind, I figured it out. the /me command.05:54
zOrKnah, I'll install kubuntu05:54
zOrKthanks anyway05:54
zOrKit is great to know it05:54
intelikeylinuxkid2 :)05:54
maryenthat does install it >.>05:54
maryenjust without needing an .iso05:54
zOrKcan I make an apt-get install ubuntu-desktop on  kubuntu?05:54
=== intelikey says /me too much maybe...
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fastdukezOrK, all you have to do is stay away from apt and you'll learn linux05:54
zOrKyeah, that's a wiser advice.05:55
Momalcould not open default font 'fixed' <-- anyone seen that error before?05:55
linuxkid2how do you make it say thinks instead of says?05:55
maryenwhy don't you just tell him to install gentoo fastduke05:55
fastdukeblah merge05:55
soulridergentoo is more newbie friendly than kubuntu ?05:56
fastdukejust saying05:56
linuxkid2No way.05:56
linuxkid2It compiles everything.05:56
fastdukeI use Ubuntu/deb for a reason05:56
soulriderwhat ubuntu need05:56
Momalubuntu is the best tbh05:56
intelikeyapt is ok i guess.05:56
maryengentoo is for masochists and ralph nader05:56
soulrideris what mandriva has thats called net_applet05:56
soulriderit badly needs it05:56
bobbyzhey, I have a quick question about jvm's on (k)ubuntu/debian.  I installed sun's jre and jdk, but /usr/bin/java is a link to /etc/alternatives/java which still links to /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java.  I can update the symlinks by hand, but is there a debian/ubuntu-specific way of selecting what jvm /etc/alternatives/java links to?05:56
maryenyou mean network manager soulrider?05:56
soulridermandirva has this one05:57
soulridercalled net_applet05:57
=== linuxkid2 *wise Gentoo might be an adventure for the future
soulriderits everything kubuntu needs05:57
maryensudo apt-get install kdenetworkmanager05:57
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fastdukegentoo is lame05:57
intelikeybobbyz man update-alternatives05:57
bobbyzintelikey: thanks, that sounds like what I'm looking for05:57
linuxkid2intelikey: so what about my harddrive?05:57
maryensoulrider: sudo apt-get install kdenetworkmanager theres a network applet05:58
fastdukeGentoo is fun don't get me wrong05:58
soulridermaryen: package not found05:58
maryeni should try gentoo sometime05:58
fastdukebut I use ubuntu at work for a good solid server05:58
maryensoulrider: enable all of your repositories05:58
soulrideri have05:58
intelikeylinuxkid2 you need to hit enter about three times until you get to the screen with the "green" highlighting for the partition and then write to disk.05:58
maryenoh wait05:59
Momalit might be kdenetwork rather then kdenetworkmanagerrrrrr.....05:59
maryenits knetworkmanager05:59
linuxkid2intelikey: what about the swap? which partition did you mean?05:59
Momalarr so it is :p05:59
Momal"knetworkmanager - User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager"05:59
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intelikeyit will only highlight one afaik05:59
fastduke apt-cache search kdenet05:59
intelikeybut the color changes.05:59
linuxkid2intelikey: which one do I highlight?06:00
intelikeydoesn't matter it will write all06:00
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soulridermaryen: it snot there06:00
linuxkid2but there's a huge list of partitions, mostly old ones.06:00
intelikeytry it.  you'll see.   don't be afreid of messing something up you already did that.   so just go ahead and fix it.06:01
maryenit shows it in the search cache soulrider06:01
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maryenyou sure you spelled it right?06:01
soulriderisnt showing up for me06:02
soulriderim sure06:02
soulrideri used06:02
soulriderapt-cache knet06:02
linuxkid2aptitude search packagename is easy enough06:02
intelikeyi need to get going linuxkid2,  that's kinda why i'm giving you the bum's rush here.06:02
linuxkid2oh, sorry, thanks for all the help06:02
maryensoulrider: sudo apt-get install knetworkmanager06:02
intelikeynp hope all goes well for you.06:02
maryenbtw it's kinda buggy atm06:02
soulriderit cant find that package06:02
linuxkid2me too06:02
soulrideri already tried it06:02
intelikeyk gooday all.06:03
maryenbye intellikey06:03
maryenthe first one i entered was "kde"networkmanager06:03
maryenwhich was wrong06:03
maryenyou sure you've tried this one?06:03
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soulriderhang on06:04
soulrideranyone knows if wow has a monthly fee ?06:06
maryenyes it does06:06
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maryenyou are talking about world of warcraft right?06:06
soulrideri wish lineage 2 ran on linux06:06
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soulriderknetworkmanager is nto what i want06:07
maryenwhat did you want then?06:08
soulrideri want a program that can let me monitor/connect/disconnect my eth0 and pppoe connection06:08
soulriderlet me try it06:08
maryencan't disconnect with gkrell, but it does monitor nearly everything on your system06:09
soulrideri need to eb able to connecta nd disconnect06:09
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soulriderheres ht ethng06:10
maryenknetworkmanager can disconnect eth006:10
soulrideri gto a couple of programs that can do that06:10
maryendunno about your pppoe06:10
soulriderand rppppoek06:10
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soulriderif i use them to connect tot he internet06:10
soulridereven if they connec06:10
soulridertmy prgorams wont work06:10
soulrideras if i were offline06:10
maryenso you need to restart them?06:10
soulriderno wya to make htem work06:11
soulrideri need to go to the console to connect06:11
soulriderand in my toher computer06:11
soulrideri can use knet and rpppoek just fine06:11
soulriderand everythign works06:11
soulriderand they are connected the same way tot he internet06:11
soulriderboth were set up by me06:11
soulriderso i dony knwo whats happening06:11
maryeninstall knet then?06:11
soulrideri did06:12
maryenand knetdockapp06:12
soulriderbut even if it connects06:12
maryento get the applet06:12
soulriderapps wot work online06:12
fastdukesoulrider, what apps?06:12
soulriderany apps06:12
soulriderfroma pt to opera06:12
fastdukeand you can ping?06:13
soulriderbut do06:13
soulriderand i see its active06:13
soulriderand i see my IP and everything06:13
fastdukewhat does route show06:14
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soulriderim not ont hat computer right now06:14
fastdukewell check to see if you can ping your gateway06:14
soulrideron this computer i see 506:15
fastdukeand then check /etc/resolv.conf to see if you are looking at the right DNS servers06:15
soulriderwhat happens if i can ping them, and what happens if i cant ?06:15
soulriderthe thing is06:15
soulriderif i do06:15
soulridersudo pon dsl06:15
soulriderit connects and works06:15
soulriderbut if i use06:15
soulriderknet or rppppoek it doesnt06:15
soulriderand im using htme on this computer06:16
soulriderand they work just fine06:16
fastdukeso your pc has a public IP then06:16
fastdukeyou don't have a router?06:16
soulrideri do06:16
soulriderbut its a POS06:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lineak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:16
soulriderits not really acting as a router06:16
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fastdukeYou can purchase a router that will connect to your dsl modem with pppoe06:17
soulridermine should be able to06:17
soulrideri configured it and everything06:18
fastdukethen you can just run a regular eth0 to your router to the gateway06:18
soulriderbut it wont06:18
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule06:18
soulriderand i cant ask my dad to buya  new one06:18
maryen!gay proprietary nvidia drivers06:18
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maryenya, whatever06:19
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soulriderim goign to bed06:19
soulriderbye bye!!06:19
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linuxkid2fastduke: what's up?06:24
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fastdukestuff I guess06:24
fastdukewas riding dirt bike today and now I'm messing with the linux box06:25
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linuxkid2I was trying to resize parts on another box, was making boot floppy for LiveCD, and accidently copied the floppy image to the hard drive :$06:28
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ubotukatapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.06:37
linuxkid2katapult's too slow06:38
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mini_gamer1896a question, i upgraded to edgy last night, and my wifi card stopped being recognized (the only net connection for it; it worked fine under drapper).  These error codes show up during boot whenever i have it plugged in """ firmware_helper[2777] : main: error loading '/lib/firmware/acx/default/tiacx100' for device '/class/firmware/0000:02:00.0' with driver 'acx_pci' """ & """ firmware_helper[2751] : m06:55
mini_gamer1896ain: error loading '/lib/firmware/acx/default/tiacx100c0D' for device '/class/firmware/0000:02:00.0' with driver 'acx_pci' """  Also, there is another error code that pops up whenever i boot (i didn't get this with dapper either): """ [17179592.452000]  piix4_smbus 0000:00:07.3: IBM Laptop detected; this module may corrupt your serial eeprom! Refusing to load module! """06:55
mini_gamer1896#ubuntu+1 is quiet right now06:55
linuxkid2this is too06:55
mini_gamer1896more busy than they are06:56
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Momalcould not open default font 'fixed' <-- anyone have quick fix to that error? (I notice it trying to run vncserver)07:03
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maryenkatapult isslow????07:12
kerberozi dont know07:12
maryenoh wait, that's text from last night07:12
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maryenwell remind me to punish linuxkid2 for uttering it07:13
Ahmucki am not getting sound out of amorok07:13
maryendoes everything else play sound?07:13
Momalahmuck: check the sound settings in amarok make sure its on your engine in its options :).. provided other things have sound07:14
Ahmucksystem sounds, but no midi either07:14
AhmuckALSA ?07:15
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maryenmidi and mp3 dont work out of the box with amarok07:16
maryenin fact i still dont know how to get amarok to play midi07:16
ccherrettI am not able to delete files off of my memory stick. Any idea how to snuff them07:16
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maryenformat it?07:16
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maryenor do sudo rm -rf on the files07:16
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maryenalsa is the engine you want btw ahmuch07:17
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maryenyou need to enable all your repositories and install libxine-extracodecs ahmuck07:17
ccherrettmaryen: rm -rf errors07:18
maryenccherrett, your memory stick is mounted in /media on your hd07:18
ccherrettreadonly file system07:18
maryendo you have the stick set to read only?07:19
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maryenif not i would suggest backing up the files you wanna keep and reformatting it with qtparted or gparted07:19
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kerberozif anybody uses amarok, amarok no working07:21
maryenthere is no luke packages in our repositories07:21
maryenwhat have we become07:21
kerberozuses xmms07:21
kerberozamarok  no working07:21
maryenhmm whats wrong with your amarok kerberoz?07:21
kerberozno play mp307:21
kerberozonly xmms07:21
kerberozis so wire07:22
maryenyou need to install libxine-extracodecs to make amarok play mp3s07:22
maryenwhat you wanna do to do that is type "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" into konsole07:23
poseidonmaryen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo worked for me just now.07:23
ccherrettrm: cannot remove `/media/sdb1/DCIM/100PENTX/IMGP1321.PEF': Read-only file system07:24
maryenposeidon: ya i got timidity, but it looks like amarok should be able to play midis too07:24
ccherrettmaryer: that is my error ^^07:24
maryenok ccherrett, back up the files you wanna save on the memory stick and then use qtparted to format it07:25
maryenkerberoze: scan the file that just opened in the terminal and look for any thing that looks like "## deb http...."07:25
maryenif you see that delete the "##"07:26
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maryenalso add multiverse to the end of any line that has universe07:26
kerberozi try07:26
maryenafter that, save the file using ctrl+O07:27
maryener ctrl+o07:27
maryenand ctrl+x to exit07:27
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kerberozmaryen where are you from?07:28
maryenland of the fat07:28
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maryenthen enter "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs" into the terminal07:29
maryenand you can now play mp3s in amarok07:29
maryenyou can also now install java and flash through apt07:29
kerberozwhy parto of america07:31
m4x1mumwhat the hell, i couldn;t install java re, it gives me break(install) ??07:31
kerberozwhat part of america?07:31
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abehidoes kubuntu have gcc by default?07:32
maryenhmm m4x1mum?07:32
maryenabeshi: "sudo apt-get install build-essential07:33
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abehiI'm stuck, I need to compile my lan drivers, so can't aptget it07:33
abehiwhy do distros ship without gcc :(07:33
maryendon't know07:33
maryenhere you go abehi07:34
maryenit should work with dapper07:34
maryenand may god have mercy on your soul07:34
abehiheh heh, thx!07:34
m4x1mumoooooooh crap it takes 79Mb to install java re07:35
maryenits big07:35
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m4x1mumno wonder my installation breaks, i dont have the java-bin07:35
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m4x1mumi only download java-re07:35
maryendo "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin"07:36
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maryenthat should get you all the java you should need07:36
maryenunless you need dev packages07:36
m4x1mumnah im not doing any java development07:36
m4x1mumhmmm amarok dont play mp3 by default?07:37
maryenneed to install libxine-extracodecs to get it working07:37
m4x1mumaaah no wonder07:37
m4x1mumi thought its my directory permission problem07:38
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maryenworks like a charm after that though07:38
maryenlol nah07:38
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maryenno distro can have mp3 by default due to legal issues07:38
Momalwhy can windows then :S07:39
unix_infideldoes (k)ubuntu have a a listing of companies that currently use and have support contracts with ubuntu?07:39
MomalI guess they paid money07:39
unix_infideleg, for servers.07:39
maryenbecause ms paid the royalties to the owner of the mp3 format07:39
m4x1mumwindows cannot play mp307:39
Momallol good one m4x07:39
m4x1mumyou still need the software to play it07:39
m4x1mumi never use windows media player though07:40
m4x1mumi always use winamp for that :)07:40
maryeni dont know unix_infidel07:40
m4x1mumtoo bad i cant remove windows media player completely07:40
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MomalI just use amarok screw windows :p07:40
Momalnothing beats amarok07:40
maryenremoving wmp can actually gimp your system bad07:41
DaSkreechPaper beats rock07:41
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maryenbut linux beats paper?07:41
Momaland paper = me... and scissors = linux07:41
unix_infidelmaryen: so you compress all the wmp binaries :P so they have all the proper dlls available :)07:41
m4x1mumno dude, linux beats windows07:41
maryenthats beyond the normal windows users abilities07:42
Momallinux > * > windows07:42
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m4x1mumyou left out mac07:42
maryennot terribly sure where to put it07:43
m4x1mumthe system with one button mouse, they think the user will get confused if there is more than one button on the mouse07:43
maryenpersonally, im suprised how slow macs run07:44
Momallinux > mac > * > dos > win 3.1 > win98 > windows*07:44
maryenlinux > mac > * > dos > win 3.1 > win98 > windows 95>rock>windows ME07:45
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m4x1mumthe list will just get longer07:45
maryenyes lets stop this07:45
poseidondon't make it too long, it'll crash my computer!07:45
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Momalahahah poseidon must be using windows lol!!07:46
maryenjust on the fact that ubuntu didn't release with a seriously broken package manager07:46
m4x1mum16bit windows?07:46
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maryen*shudders* i remember when my windows 95 would get corrupted and i would have to reinstall it07:46
Momalanyone use video screen capture pograms underlinux ?07:46
maryenmythtv is supposed to be good for that07:47
DaSkreechWait till Ubuntu starts to use smart :)07:47
maryenbut no07:47
DaSkreech /j #kubuntu-devel07:47
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maryenim fine with apt right now thanks07:47
Momalmaryen: ... I mean like I set up what I want it to record and it records my screen like my mouse moving and that07:48
maryenno idea07:48
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maryenhi himawan07:48
MomalI tried xvidcap but it just crashes everynow and again and the vnc+vnc2swf... well vncserver wont even start >_<07:49
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poseidonthat's a shame..... vnc+school == lots of fun on :580107:50
maryen:( my school even blocks the ports needed to get on this channel poseidon07:50
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Momalset up a proxy maryen :D07:51
poseidonYou could probably change the port.... to like 8007:51
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maryenirc server wont accept a connection from port 8007:51
maryenmomal:  no thanks07:51
poseidonoh, sorry, I thought you meant vnc. X_X07:51
himawanhi ...07:52
maryenwhats up?07:52
Momalif you set up a proxy on your computer then connected through it via school then connected to irc server/chan :should work.07:52
maryeni don't have a dedicated server tho07:53
maryeni should get one from goodwill07:53
m4x1mumdamn i forgot again, where is the packages stored by adept?07:53
maryenyou mean your sources list?07:53
m4x1mumyeah, after the package is downloaded where is it?07:54
maryenno idea07:54
m4x1mumno not the list, the actual file07:54
maryenland of make-believe probably07:54
Ahmucki think adept updater just locked up07:54
Momalthis is where the debs go /var/cache/apt/archives/07:54
maryenhow so ahmuck07:54
Ahmuckdpkg finished, and it is just sitting there07:55
poseidonmaryen: It wants me to register...07:55
maryenwhat wants you to register07:55
m4x1mumaaah ok07:55
maryenand himawan, are you gonna say anything but hi??07:55
poseidonmaryen: and I got to go to sleep now, anyways07:56
maryenjust do /msg NICKSERV register <password>07:56
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maryenthen you're registered07:56
maryenahmuck close your apt, then do apt-get update again07:57
maryenor actually "sudo killall apt-get"07:57
Ahmuckmaryen: ya, i killed it07:57
m4x1mumman i need to learn the linux file structure07:58
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maryendont push yourself m4x07:58
maryenjust enjoy yourself and learn as you go07:59
maryenguh, no updated packages since this morning07:59
maryenwhat are the edgy devs doing07:59
m4x1mumi feel uncomfortable, i dont know where the files are stored :(, in windows i can even remove some of the virus manually without using anti-virus, cause i know most of the file structure07:59
maryeni need my package fix07:59
ccherrettI am trying to install cinepaint but apt can't find it08:00
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ccherrettdo I need to specify different repositories?08:00
ccherretthow does that work?08:00
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maryenwhats the error message say08:00
ccherrettE: Couldn't find package cinepaint08:00
m4x1mumi have cinepaint in adept08:00
maryentry apt-cache search cinepaint08:01
ccherrettdo I need to turn on universe08:01
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ccherrettin sources08:01
himawan_22I have a problem about my sound card..08:01
ccherrettapt-cache search cinepaint = nothing08:01
maryenif you are typing the name of the package correctly it would have a different error even if all your repos arent on08:01
maryenwhats up with it himawan08:01
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m4x1mummy adept manager have universe and multiverse added08:02
himawan_22I use kubuntu, and this system have know about my sound card..08:02
himawan_22but i can't hear anything from my computer.08:02
maryenis it refusing to play sound anymore even though it did before?08:02
himawan_22can you help me??08:02
maryennot sure08:02
ccherrettm4x1mum: what are the entries for multiverse?08:02
maryendid it play sound before?08:03
maryenbye himawan08:03
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ccherrettonce you uncomment a line in sources do you need to do anything to apt to get it to read from them?08:03
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avutonHow can I tell what's in ubuntu's package repository? (on the web possibly?)08:03
maryensudo apt-get update08:03
maryenavuton: apt-cache search08:04
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ccherrettah that worked :)08:04
maryenyou dont want a list of every package in the repos avuton08:05
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maryenthat would be far too much to read08:05
Momalcan you acually list everything? because I tried and it never worked for me08:05
maryeni dont think so08:05
maryenadept lists everything08:05
Momalusing * returns nothing and without anything just says give one pattern... thats via apt-cache08:06
avutonmaryen: actually, is there anyway without being in the distro, I'm not a user08:06
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Momalmaybe on the repos website?08:07
maryenor typing in the repo server08:07
avutonI'm sorry, I looked for it, maybe blind, but couldn't find it08:07
maryenavuton: there are 20k packages available to a person with full ubuntu repos08:08
maryenyou dont really wanna look through that do you?08:08
avutonRight, there's got to be a way to search for one, to get information on a package, like packages.gentoo.org ...right(?)08:08
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maryenusing the ubuntu live cd you could08:09
maryenthats the easiest way i can think of08:09
avutonmaryen: wow, ok, thanks :)08:09
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maryenok i go watch outlaw star for a sec08:11
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maryen|nerdtastieww, nerdtasti?08:11
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kerberozgracias maryen08:15
kerberozthank you maryen08:15
kerberozamarok is working08:16
frankkmWhich codec should I use tp play .ra files in amarok?08:18
m4x1mumazureus is only version 2.4 in adept?08:18
DaSkreechm4x1mum: File structure is pretty simple08:19
DaSkreechm4x1mum: Search for FHS on the net to see the standard08:19
maryen|nerdjesusw32codecs frankkm08:19
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m4x1mumwow i got 3 seconds lag08:21
DaSkreechHi wrabbit^08:21
m4x1mumok people i've done this sudo mke2fs -j -c /dev/sdb1, so the filestructure should be in ext3 now right?08:22
m4x1mumno need to do anything else?08:22
wrabbit^Hey DaSkreech  :) How goes it?08:22
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DaSkreechwrabbit^: Not bad08:22
DaSkreechDead tired though08:22
frankkmIt aint playing my ra file, i have installed the w32 codec08:23
wrabbit^DaSkreech, well yeah.  You seem to be awake 24/708:23
frankkmyeah, its really strange08:24
wrabbit^hehe.... So yeah, after my reinstallation and partitioning yesterday, everything seems to be going quite well.  Didn't bother with automatix this time and installed everything I needed via command.  Took a bit of googling but it was damn easy.08:24
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DaSkreechYup :-)08:25
maryenwrabbbit, did you install edgy?08:25
wrabbit^maryen. Nope, not yet08:26
maryenyou better before i get angry08:26
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shriphanii tried fluxbox08:32
DaSkreechshriphani: Woot?08:33
shriphanicertainly not what i wanted08:34
shriphanii would appreciate some clutter as 256 megs ram aint soo small right ?08:34
shriphaniDaSkreech: any other desktop environs ?08:36
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DaSkreechSo you want clutter?08:36
shriphania slght bit08:36
DaSkreechshriphani: Fluxbox isn't a Desktop Environ btw08:36
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shriphanijust a window manager08:36
DaSkreechtried E?08:37
shriphanithat one ?08:37
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shriphaniits good ?08:38
DaSkreechIt's cluttery :)08:38
DaSkreechIf you want to swing it first you can check out elive08:39
DaSkreech if you just wanna apt-get it then you may want the Seerofsouls repo08:39
shriphaniits a complete desktop environment ?08:39
Momalanyone know of a good script capture tool for kde... that will record it as video?08:39
wordany ideas why nfs on one computer only would refuse to let people mount it's drive? with 95% certainty on correct config?08:40
method|shriphani: what's wrong with kde?08:40
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DaSkreechits pretty close08:40
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DaSkreechMomal: Screenkast08:40
shriphanii wudd like something minimalistic and slightly appealing08:41
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orient2000what should I type in konsole to become superuser?08:41
DaSkreechorient2000: Sudo su08:42
shriphanisudo -i ?08:42
DaSkreechsudo -i >_<08:42
DaSkreechorient2000: Why do you want to run as super user?08:42
m4x1mumin adept what is request purging for?08:43
wordm4x1mum: deleting everything even config files created by that package08:43
DaSkreechm4x1mum: It deletes the config files08:44
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DaSkreechAnd all saved stuff as far as I know?08:44
InteliWaspanyone have links to window managers/desktop evireoments reviews?08:46
DaSkreechInteliWasp: They'd all be rubbish :)08:46
DaSkreechInteliWasp: It's far too subjective08:47
InteliWaspalright.. then a list then08:47
wordDaSkreech: when you said 'it' were you referring to the computer that doesn't let others mount it?08:47
Momalis their a repo for screenkast?... seems the deb for it and the other's need all this other stuff but none of it is in adept/apt-get08:48
DaSkreechword: No I was referring to the fact that I was too tired to notice that I hadn't finished typing out the sentence that I had just formulated in my head and hit enter08:48
DaSkreechMomal: try seerofsouls08:48
m4x1mumwhat the hell this stupid azureus is running in background?!?!?! how to kill it?08:49
DaSkreechkillall azureus08:49
m4x1mumdoesnt work08:50
m4x1mumi got this error StartSocket: passing startup args to already-running Azureus java process listening on [ 6880] 08:50
m4x1mumwhen i try to run azureus08:50
Linux_Galorem4x1mum: means you still have azureus running in the background08:51
InteliWaspthe reason i'm asking is that someone was telling me of some enviroment or WM... not sure (was kinda drink :P) that was divided into 3 or 4 windows one of them taking half and the rest as large previews08:51
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Linux_Galorem4x1mum: use ksysguard to kill it08:52
m4x1mumps command doesn't show any azureus08:52
maryenkill java08:53
Linux_Galorem4x1mum: try sudo ps aux08:53
ubotupbuilder is a system to easily build packages in a clean chroot environment. To get started with PBuilder, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto08:53
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maryenthat will kill azureus along with it08:54
Linux_Galorem4x1mum: or sudo ksysguard08:54
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Linux_Galoreyeah might be a java process still sitting running08:54
orient2000I could not open update because dpkg process was interupted and I had to do it manually in a konsole.08:55
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m4x1mumthis is weird azureus died immediately once i start it :(08:55
Linux_Galoreorient2000:  run adept in a console and read the text and do what it says08:56
m4x1mumand azureus popup couldn't be closed down08:56
maryenazureus is... not to good in dapper08:56
wordany ideas why nfs on one computer only would refuse to let people mount it's drive? with 95% certainty on correct config?08:56
m4x1mumwhats a better torrent client?08:56
wordm4x1mum: azureus :P08:56
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wordm4x1mum: you don't have java set up right08:56
maryenin dapper ktorrent is the best you'll get08:56
Linux_GaloreI have no issues with azureus on kubuntu - dapper08:56
wordmaryen: i use azureus just fine...08:56
maryenbah how so08:57
m4x1mumi have 2 version of java installed 1.4 and 1.5 strangely the 1.4 is not removed08:58
shriphaniso is gnome or kde better for 256 megs of ra ?08:58
wordlike..i click the shortcut...and it opens up...and i add torrents..and it downloads..08:58
orient2000I did it manually but one of the servers of universe or other is down and I will have to finish it maybe tomorrow.08:58
shriphaniram ^08:58
Linux_Galorem4x1mum: because you havent defined you default yet then you have to remove 1.408:58
maryenno, how did you setup java to make azureus run properly08:58
martyndahi, i have installed apache2 and php5 through apt-get, but when i go to a php file, the browser tries to download it, can someone help me out?08:58
orient2000ok I go to konsole   adept08:58
wordm4x1mum: not that strange...you need to set up java apps to use the newer version..forgot teh command for it08:58
wordmaryen: i'll look up the command...08:58
DaSkreechMomal: how goes?08:58
m4x1mumooh i thought adept will automatically remove 1.4 when i install 1.508:58
Linux_Galorem4x1mum: nope08:58
maryenfine, ill try azureus once more08:58
Linux_Galorem4x1mum: you have to define your new default after you run adept08:58
MomalDaSkreech: Well I seemed to get it installed now but it keeps saying that I have a vnc running already :S.. when there isn't an process of one08:58
maryenbut then again i like how ktorrent isnt as much of a resource hog08:58
m4x1mumeven in windows utorrent is the best one single exe, very small and it works as good as azureus :)08:59
shriphaniso is gnome or kde better for 256 megs of ram ?09:00
m4x1mumLinux_Galore: How to define the default?09:00
maryenxfce is better09:00
DaSkreechshriphani: Recently it seems to be KDE but something lighter is much better09:00
shriphanii wouldnt like to run qt + gtk09:00
method|have you tried xfce?09:00
wordmaryen: m4x1mum: sudo update-alternatives --config java09:01
wordjust select different ones until it works lol..one of em should if you have 1.5 installed..09:01
method|it's supposedly good for not so super computers09:01
Ash-FoxI've found firefox runs faster under kde than under xfce (as odd as that sounds)09:01
shriphanirt. now kde is running ok09:01
shriphaninot too slow09:01
MomalA VNC server is already running as :1 <-- :S... there is nothing running though09:01
Linux_Galorem4x1mum: you need to run sudo update-alternatives --config java09:02
m4x1mumi use Opera instead of firefox09:02
Linux_Galorem4x1mum: define you default java version09:02
shriphanibut ksysguard shows one hell of cpu load09:02
shriphanii dont want that as a result09:03
m4x1mumyay azureus finally work, except the warning popup still cannot be closed09:03
orient2000W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B8 what is it?09:03
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shriphanim4x1mum: so you suggest i get xfce ?09:04
Linux_Galorem4x1mum: also its not wise to install java in adept because unless you click on the details button you will mis agreeing to the license09:04
DaSkreechMomal: open VNc and setit to run on :0 ?09:04
wordm4x1mum: that's a bug in gtk I think..either that or one fixed in the cvs versions..i have the latest09:04
DaSkreechorient2000: You need to import the key for the repo you just added09:04
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Linux_Galorem4x1mum: you only get the warning if you dont properly shut down azureus09:05
MomalWarning: serverbox:0 is not taken because of /tmp/.X0-lock09:05
MomalRemove this file if there is no X server serverbox:009:05
MomalA VNC server is already running as :009:05
Momalsafe to remove that file?09:05
orient2000you mean repository? repo?09:05
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wordm4x1mum: hmm...what version of azureus is in the repos?09:05
maryenthats the same problem i have  with azureus09:05
maryenand have had in azureus09:05
wordm4x1mum: latest is :P09:06
m4x1mumthats why i'm a bit confused the repos is outdated??09:06
NameNomaddoes anyone know of a good music editor that runs through Linux?  A friend told me about FruityLoops, but besides the fact that it costs money, it doesn't run on linux, so I can't use it.  Anyone know a good program for music editing?09:06
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wordmaryen: m4x1mum: used to have the same problem a few weeks back but a cvs update fixed it i bet it's fixed in either 2.5 or
wordm4x1mum: they usually are09:06
DaSkreechorient2000: Yes09:06
Linux_GaloreI download azureus from there home page and install it in my home directory09:06
maryenactually its probably fixed for me since im using edgy09:06
wordmaryen: check the version of it09:07
wordmaryen: i was told it was a gtk problem but i'm starting to think it was an azureus problem09:07
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maryennow azureus freezes at loading images09:08
maryenoh well09:08
wordmaryen: 'oh well' isn't a very linuxy attitude :P09:09
maryenktorrent fits my needs now09:09
maryenazureus is dead to me09:09
orient2000I did not add any new repositories maybe it happened automatickly I have a new one wine and freecontrib where should I get the key and how to appy it?09:09
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wordrun it in command line and check error output darnit ><09:09
m4x1mumbut ktorrent is not that configurable as azureus09:09
Steven_Mhi all09:10
method|maryen: why dont you use opera? it has a bittorrent client built in09:10
Ash-FoxHow bloated...09:10
method|its also the best web browser for linux imo09:10
wordorient2000: don't think those are automatic..but just google them most tuts with repos have the key as well09:10
manjunathahow to install opera in ubuntu09:10
maryenbecause opera doesnt have the nifty extensions firefox has09:10
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maryenthere doesnt seem to be an error message09:10
maryenit just stops loading09:11
Ash-FoxGoogle browser sync is one of the best ones in my opinion.09:11
method|never understood the fixation with firefox's extensions09:11
m4x1mummanjunatha: download the .deb file from opera website and install it through apt09:11
wordmethod|: because they're dev team is snotty about being closed source :P09:11
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method|word: unless you're a developer does it really affect you that much?09:11
Ash-Foxmethod|, show me another browser that lets me synchronize between different computers, OSes, and I'll consider it. I can do that with firefox extensions :P09:11
m4x1mummake sure you download for ubuntu, not other linux distribution09:11
maryenmethod|: when opera gets an extension that erases 90% of ads on the web, ill use it09:11
MomalDaSkreech: could not open default font 'fixed' <-- how do I fix that prob seems the vncserver wont start09:12
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method|Ash-Fox: i can sync with opera09:12
wordwell for awhile i was beta testing and developing widgets..still kinda am..but meh09:12
Ash-Foxmethod|, really? *starts opera* how?09:12
method|maryen: opera has a great ad-blocker09:12
wordmethod|: i'll agree with that one09:12
method|not as good as firefox's09:12
method|but it's good09:12
wordno it's actually better in my experience09:12
maryenmethod|: im not talking about pop-ups, im talking flash banners, gifs, and all other advertisements09:13
method|maryen: i am too09:13
m4x1mumthe thing that i dont like about firefox is that you have to install all the extension first to be as good or better than opera09:13
manjunathaopra can block images but firefox cant09:13
method|m4x1mum: exactly09:13
maryenmethod| i have never seen opera block an ad image09:13
wordadblock can block images...09:13
wordmaryen: check teh version number on it..09:13
method|maryen: i dunno which opera you have used09:13
m4x1mumboth firefox and opera can block image09:13
Ash-Foxmethod|, I'm not seeing the synchronisation feature in opera that lets me synchronise between different computers and different operating systems my cookies, bookmarks and stored passwords?09:13
maryenword: azureus is still frozen09:14
wordmaryen: check the darned version number in adept :P09:14
maryenword: java is quite possibly buggy still on edgy09:14
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maryenword: k09:14
manjunathaselected blocking is not possible in fox09:14
method|Ash-Fox: it can sync bookmarks, and wand data, i dont know about cookies and such09:14
Momalcould not open default font 'fixed' <-- anyone know a fix?09:14
wordmanjunatha: it isn't? o.O adblock -> block image? not possible?09:14
Ash-Foxmethod|, okay, where is the automated synchronising for bookmarks then?09:14
method|Ash-Fox: file->import...opera bookmarks09:15
wordmethod|: the wand thing is the only thing i miss from opera09:15
Ash-Foxthat isn't synchronisation, that's importing09:15
method|you can also import ie or ff imports09:15
method|Ash-Fox: ok well shoot me09:15
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maryenword: for some reason edgy still uses 2.40209:15
method|word: wand is the reason why i dont use konqueror09:15
m4x1mumfirefox have similar stuff for wands if i remember correctly09:15
wordmaryen: because it hasn't been updated on repos just do yourself a favor and go out and get the newest09:16
method|firefox is a bit slower imo09:16
m4x1mumhei my azureus is also frozen lol09:16
Momalgoogle working for other people at the moment? I think my isp has blocked it lol.. it wont load :S everything else does09:16
method|slower to load pages, tabs, and to load up in general09:16
Ash-Foxhttp://www.google.com/tools/firefox/browsersync/ <- I use it on macosx/linux/windows. Really is the win =)09:16
wordmaryen: all ya have to do is mv azureus ~/.azureus sudo ln -s ~/.azureus/azureus /usr/bin/azureus after you uninstall the package09:16
method|opera feels more lightweight09:16
method|but it has more stuff09:16
method|even a smaller download09:16
wordi think irc and email are a bit much :P09:16
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Steven_Mhave any of you ever used guarddog, a gui for iptables?09:17
method|word: yeah me too09:17
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maryenmethod|: i loves my bon echo and nothin you say is gonna change that09:17
method|i never use opera's irc or email function09:17
wordhas anything really changed in bon echo?09:17
method|but the bittorrent thing is really cool09:17
m4x1mumi use opera's email though09:17
wordmethod|: i tried using email until i realized it's really lacking in basic functionality09:17
method|even tho i dont really do much torrenting09:17
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method|never tried it09:18
method|i do most of my email thru gmail09:18
maryenword: its got improved tab browsing, session restore, etc09:18
maryen plus its prettier09:18
wordsession restore..built in...no memory leaks...?!?!?!?!?09:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about one111eleventy!! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:19
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:19
wordeat that09:19
method|anyone in here using edgy eft?09:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about musiceditor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:19
maryenok 2.5 works but i still loves ktorrent09:19
NameNomad!music editor09:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about music editor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:20
method|maryen: are the fonts ugly as sin out the box?09:20
m4x1mummaryen: lol09:20
method|like the screenshots i have seen?09:20
maryenmethod|: no09:20
m4x1mumyou have said that many times09:20
wordany ideas why nfs on one computer only would refuse to let people mount it's drive? with 95% certainty on correct config?09:20
maryenthey are beautiful09:20
maryensomeone didnt hear me m4x1mum09:20
method|the screenshots i've seen they look equally as horrible out the box like dapper09:20
Momalcould not open default font 'fixed' <-- anyone know a fix?09:20
method|i cant remember what i did to make my fonts look nice so i was a bit worried about that09:21
m4x1mumis there a software to manage the bandwidth for individual software?09:21
wordbandwith or speeds?09:21
maryenmethod|: sent you a screenshot09:22
method|hey anyone know if theres a shell command that with display bandwith usage?09:22
m4x1mumerr like software a can only get maximum of 20kbps for example09:22
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method|maryen: i dont think it connected or something09:22
maryenyou registered?09:22
wordm4x1mum: you talking about controlling azureus?09:22
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method|registered now09:23
method|try again09:23
m4x1mumno not just azureus, iwant to controll everything09:23
wordah no idea there09:23
m4x1mumopera, irc, azureus09:23
maryenok see it now?09:23
method|yeah it's trying to connect09:23
method|still no dice it looks like09:23
m4x1mumok i've downloaded azureus 2.5, how do i install it?09:24
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Momalcould not open default font 'fixed' <-- anyone know a fix?09:24
method|has anyone here ever tried pclinuxos?09:24
maryenm4x1mum you can run it by clicking the firefox script inside the folder09:24
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m4x1mumi dont have firefox09:25
method|maryen: looks good09:25
maryener azureus script09:25
Steven_Mhow do find out what version of samba I've got?09:25
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Torchedwhy would sound sometimes not play on youtube when i'm using kubuntu with firefox?09:27
maryenflash plugin uses oss which sucks09:28
maryengo yell at adobe09:28
method|Torched: it does it for opera too09:28
Torchedwhy does it happen though?09:28
Torchedi mean it's just sometimes09:28
method|flash for linux sucks right now im afraid :(09:28
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maryenOSS conflicts with everyother sound system there is09:28
maryenif you are running anything sound related in linux, flash sound wont play09:29
maryento fix this, close firefox09:29
maryenthen go to the konsole and type "killall artsd"09:29
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Torchedi opened it in konqueror09:29
maryenthen open firefox and view your flash with sound09:29
Torchedit's working there09:29
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maryenkonqueror may be using a oss converter09:30
Torchedyou don't really know what you're talking about do you09:30
maryenno i do09:30
maryenany app using OSS requires exclusive use of the soundcard09:30
Torchedi see09:31
Torchedwhy does flash do that?09:31
maryenfceu is one of these apps, but aoss works better with it than flash09:31
maryenbecause flash wasn't programmed to use ALSA09:31
Torchedwhat's salsa?09:31
maryenAdvanced linux sound architecture09:32
method|[02:30]  <Torched> you don't really know what you're talking about do you09:32
Torchedohh ok09:32
method|sorry maryen but that was funny09:32
maryenanyway, another way to fix it is to run firefox with aoss firefox, but this makes firefox really unstable09:33
maryena new flash version <i>should</i> be coming out next year, and hopefully it wont used the dated OSS09:34
maryenargh my italics didnt work09:34
method|didnt know irc had italics09:34
method|ive been ircing for like 10 years09:34
Torchedapparently it doesnt09:35
Torchedthat worked09:35
Torchedno way09:35
method|well aint that a bitch09:35
maryenhow'd you do that09:35
maryeni need it for sarcasm09:35
Momalcould not open default font 'fixed' <-- anyone know a fix?09:35
Torchedit works, it totally works09:35
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maryentell me the secret to your witchcraft 0.o09:36
Torchedctrl i09:36
Torcheda little trick bill gates taught me09:36
maryenim using conversation09:36
Torchedme too09:36
Torchedwell, konversation09:36
Torchedthat's not quite it09:37
maryeneat paragraph marks09:37
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maryen%i ; ;09:37
maryen%i ; ; %i09:37
m4x1mum_what the command to delete a directory ignoring whether if there is a file or not?09:38
maryenrm -rf09:38
maryenhave fun09:38
maryendo sudo rm -rf /09:38
m4x1mum_haha no thanks09:39
maryenit makes your computer faster tho09:39
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Momalcould not open default font 'fixed' <-- anyone know a fix?09:42
abattoirMomal: X doesnt start? edgy?09:44
maryeni didn't know mythbusters used kubuntu09:44
Momalnar X is started... just when im trying to start vncserver09:44
Momalit returns that error :S09:44
maryenno wonder they're so smart09:44
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maryenno one wants help at 3 in the morning09:54
maryenwho'd have thought09:54
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sergey_how change code page ??09:59
RawSewagehow do you join mulitpart .avi10:00
Momalcould not open default font 'fixed' <-- anyone?!?!10:00
RawSewageyes, an  avi split into  avi.001   avi.002  etc10:00
Momalhe is asking to join avi files together10:01
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maryeni don't know, i bet fdoving would though10:01
maryenbut hes sleeping10:01
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maryenor is he...10:01
frankkmI just downloaded a rpm file how do I get it installed?10:02
afd_hi! Is there a "automatically save view profile for folder"? What I'm trying to achieve is that when I change the view mode for a folder, this view mode will be used for this folder from now on10:02
afd_Windows Explorer and Nautilus have this option10:02
maryeni wouldn't suggest it though, it can mess up your install10:02
method|frankkm: unless you're using pclinuxos, fedora, redhat, or some other rpm based distro i have no clue10:02
maryenalien allows debian users to use rpm packages10:03
frankkmI use kubuntu10:03
maryenbut its very beta10:03
maryenif you wanna try it though, "sudo apt-get install alien10:03
method|frankkm: if you're looking for a kde based rpm distro i'd suggest pclinuxos10:03
method|it's every bit as good as kubuntu10:04
method|and a bit better in other ways10:04
maryenafd_ try closing all instances of konqueror after applying the view mode to the folder10:04
afd_maryen: I did, didn't work. This sucks :(10:05
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afd_maryen: I supose a .desktop file could get konqueror to list the folder in a different way. I wonder where to get my hands on this information (and why this option isn't in default kde)10:07
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maryenhmm im not sure afd_10:08
maryentell me if you find anything out10:08
afd_maryen: ok10:09
maryenmethod|: you're not supposed to move people away from kubuntu :p10:09
maryenthe ops oughta spank you good10:09
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maryenbah, still can't install nvidia drivers on my comp10:11
method|maryen: i used kubuntu10:11
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method|pclinuxos is like the rpm based version of kubuntu heh10:12
maryenrpm is the devil though10:12
maryenwell not really10:12
method|maryen: in pclinuxos to install nvidia drivers all you have to do is install the package and restart X :P10:12
maryenjust everything is alot more spread out10:12
maryenin edgy the nvidia-glx package is still broken10:12
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maryenthey needa update some of the dependencies10:13
maryennot to mention, it doesn't play nice with the general kernel and tries to force me onto 38610:13
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llogiqHi there.10:14
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maryenone of us is a cannibal, guess which and get a prize10:14
whiz2I'm trying to use Amarok to play .ogg and mp3 files, but I keep getting an error message that says "No suitable input plugin. This often means that the url's protocol is not supported. Network failures are other possible causes."10:14
ubuntu_just checking :)10:16
maryentry apt-get remove amarok --purge and then a reinstall10:16
ubuntu_o someones nickname is moo10:16
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maryenshall we worship him?10:16
=== maryen bows before moo
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llogiqwhiz2: The usual KUbuntu distribution does not have mp3 codecs for legal reasons.10:17
maryenhe cant play ogg either10:17
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llogiqHmmm...then a reinstall might do the trick...10:17
whiz2ogg plays fine in Kaffeine10:17
maryentry wiping and reinstalling amarok then10:18
maryenand make sure to remember the purge tag10:18
Momalanyone able to run vncserver under kubuntu ?10:18
maryenim not to fond of servers, or the internets10:18
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whiz2ok and where do I get mp3 codecs?10:19
maryenyou have to enable the multiverse repos10:19
whiz2everything is enabled I think10:19
maryenthen do apt-get install libxine-extracodecs10:19
maryenquestion whiz210:20
method|how do you enable the multiverse and universe in adept?10:20
maryendo you recognize the word multiverse10:20
method|im used to synaptic10:21
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ubunt_i run dapper on vmware player and the highest resolution that i can choose in preferences is 1024.786, but i need 1280x1024.10:21
whiz2I recognize the word, yes, but dunno it's meaning in kubuntu10:21
maryenuncomment the universe lines in the sources list, and add multiverse to the end of every line that has universe in it10:21
whiz2I got my copy of sources.list from a friend who had everything already enabled, so I don't need to worry about it10:22
maryenok then you should be fine10:22
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whiz2he got all the new repositories too10:22
maryenyou really need to learn to alter your sources list tho10:22
whiz2also added multiverse to the end of every repository line10:22
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whiz2I'm a noob to Linux. he made it simple for me. I'm learning little by little10:23
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method|where's sources.list again?10:23
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maryennano /etc/apt/sources.list10:23
whiz2apt-get says "amrok is already the newest version. 0upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove, and 0 not upgraded"10:24
maryendo "sudo apt-get remove amarok --purge"10:25
llogiqI got a problem with wlan on my Averatec 3156. It has a Intersil/Prism2.5 USB chipset. I tried the installation instructions on the german wiki.ubuntuusers.de, but to no avail (It seems the drivers compile against 2.4 kernels). I also found instructions on http://chronox.de/averatec_linux/linux_on_3156X.html10:25
llogiqthat should work for debian on this subnote. The prism2_usb drivers in /lib/modules do not appear to work, iwconfig says nothing.10:25
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maryenthen "sudo apt-get clean"10:25
maryenthen "sudo apt-get install amarok"10:25
whiz2Thank you. whoever gave me the command a moment ago, gave me the wrong one10:26
maryenllogiq: ndiswrapper a no-go?10:26
method|you guys said uncomment all the lines with universe in them and add multiverse?10:26
maryenadd multiverse to any line with universe, and uncomment all repositories10:27
llogiqmaryen: Haven't tried yet, as the docs said that the intersil drivers should work.10:27
Momaldoes anyone know a fix: could not open default font 'fixed' ? (error from vncserver)10:27
maryenmomal, have you searched in the repos for the font "fixed"?10:28
MomalCould not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, removing from list!10:29
MomalCould not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from list!10:29
MomalCould not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from list!10:29
MomalCould not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list!10:29
MomalCould not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, removing from list!10:29
MomalCould not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list!10:29
MomalFatal server error:10:29
Momalcould not open default font 'fixed'10:29
Momalthats what vncserver is saying.. those paths exist and are working fine10:29
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:29
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whiz2Thanks for helping me to repair Amarok10:29
maryenagh! its fdoving, hide!10:29
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fdovingMomal: do you have the 'xfonts-base' package installed?10:30
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maryen|hidingmaybe try wiping them?10:30
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Momalaccording to good the fixed font has to do with the alias file in the misc folder and its there :S10:30
maryen|hidingguh, i should of been in bed an hour ago10:31
fdovingMomal: try running 'fc-cache -f' from konsole (kmenu -> system -> konsole)10:32
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maryen|hidinghmm pastebin would be useful for posting example sources.list files10:33
Momalyea tried that from a site on net didn't work.. just tried it again and still same error10:33
whiz2Thank you. Amarok is working, and MP3s are now enabled. :-)10:34
maryen|hidingnp whiz210:34
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maryen|hidinghey fdoving, know how to get an nvidia card running on a dual-core comp using edgy eft?10:36
fdovingno. i'm blessed with just old enought ati cards to get DRI by default. :)10:37
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:37
maryen|hidinglol lucky ; ;10:37
fdovingis the only help i can give.10:37
maryen|hidingbah tried that already10:37
maryen|hidingthe new "general" kernel is a PITA10:37
Momal:(... how can you get an error when there shouldn't be any error garrr10:38
maryen|hidingsudo apt-get remove linux10:38
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Momalgarr this makes no sense >_<10:43
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bioticproHow can I mount dvd.iso file on HD, so it can be played or ripped?10:46
maurizioeasy kubuntu10:46
mauriziolink per scaricare easy kubuntu10:47
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.10:47
fdoving!iso > bioticpro10:47
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rittapI installed kubuntu to my hard drive and now I get a read error when loading grub, can someone help me?10:48
bioticprofdoving: thx :)10:48
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rittapI installed kubuntu to my hard drive and now I get a read error when loading grub, can someone help me?10:51
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satemplerrittap: wait till your question goes off screen to ask again10:54
satemplerwhat error btw10:54
Steven_Mdoes anyone here use guarddog, I really need help?10:54
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fdovingrittap: try this: http://adrian15.raulete.net/grub/tiki-index.php10:56
Steven_Mdoes anyone here use guarddog, I really need help?10:56
rittap@satempler sorry :) but I didnt see anything except loading Grub, read error10:56
fdovingSteven_M: what do you need.10:56
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satemplerrittap: so what just says Grub and thats it10:57
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rittapsatempler: jup, it doesnt do anything else10:58
rittapsatempler: and its a clean install10:58
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satemplerrittap: how many harddrive you have in the system and, are you dual booting10:58
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rittapsatempler: I have 2 harddrives (1 IDE 1 SATA) the IDE is the linux HD, and is first in boot order10:59
Steven_Mfdoving:  I did a to know how to get guarddog to allow apsolutely everthing from a nominated ip address11:00
satemplerrittap: you sure ok do the install again but before the last step in installing it will have a review and what you need to make sure is that grub is on hd0,011:00
rittapsatempler: I installed from LIVE Cd11:00
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satemplerrittap: thats the easyest way i know how11:00
rittapsatempler: so I dont see any grub configurations11:01
satempleryou won't11:01
Steven_Mfdoving: stet did=need11:01
satemplerit will assume the default11:01
satemplerbut the last screen will display a summary just before install11:01
satemplerthere you should be able to change the boot drive11:02
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rittapsatempler: I will try it, and report back later11:02
rittapsatempler: thanks!11:02
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satemplerrittap: no problem and remember ask once wait till it goes off screen11:02
rittapsatempler: lol will do :P11:03
satemplersome times there is 5 people all helping 4 people each11:03
satemplerso it takes time11:03
Steven_Mfdoving: do you use guarddog yourself?11:03
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DHGErittap: when booting press e11:10
DHGEedit (hd0,1)11:10
DHGEto something like (hd1,1)11:10
DHGEor opposite ...11:10
rittapDHGE: I know about the e, only it wont come that far...11:10
DHGEboot sector protection in BIOS?11:11
rittapDHGE: It just says Loading Grub, Read error11:11
rittapDHGE: Havent heard about it! Will check also11:11
DHGEboot from the live CD and look into your /boot/grub/menu.lst11:12
DHGEman grub    to reinstall11:13
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rittapDHGE: will do after install is done11:13
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DHGErittap: WAIT   SATA is not THAT fast on cold start   do a reset (warm start)11:14
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rittapDHGE: have already tried11:15
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rittapDHGE: also removed anything from boot order except linux HD (which is IDE)11:15
rittapDHGE: no change11:16
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DHGEdisconnect the SATA to see if it is a BIOS problem ...11:16
rittapDHGE: it isnt11:16
rittapDHGE: tried that already11:17
rittapDHGE: It cant be the mainboard or such (it highly unlikely) will probably just be grub11:17
DHGEhighly unlikely11:18
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rittapDHGE: wait, that isn't correct english :)11:18
DHGEhehe ..11:18
rittapDHGE: you get the picture11:19
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josh_how do i enable the numlock key being active at startup?11:29
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rittapjosh_: it's an option in the system settings11:29
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zorglu_josh_: somewhere in 'system setting' .. not precise but it is there11:29
zorglu_rittap is as precise as me :)11:30
rittapjosh_: try keyboard11:30
rittapit has an option named ' Numlock on KDE startup'11:30
josh_well that was easy11:30
rittapjosh_: ur welcome ;)11:30
josh_ty :)11:30
josh_how do i share my drive?11:31
josh_i tried to but it gave me some error about only being able to share folders in my home directory...11:31
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josh_and im not net sharing this folder11:31
rittapjosh_: see there's where my linux knowledge runs out :)11:32
josh_thats what the ftp is for lol11:32
josh_lol rit11:32
rittapzorglu_: maybe you have an idea for josh_11:32
zorglu_thinking :)11:33
zorglu_what is the protocol you use to share this folder ?11:33
josh_its for the wifes winblows box11:33
josh_and her mac11:33
rittapjosh_: is the samba deamon running :)11:33
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT11:33
josh_i just cant authenticate11:33
zorglu_is the max of the idea i got :)11:34
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zorglu_using a tool to configure it would be my advice11:34
zorglu_btw linux should have a tool for setting this up via zeroconf and no password11:36
zorglu_it is the 'dentist case' and all the people who came here to config samba were in this case11:36
rittapzorglu_ & josh_ : which is, again, in the system settings :)11:36
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rittapOr at least i thought i was11:37
zorglu_but system setting got weird trouble for me11:37
zorglu_when i enter in 'admin mode' to modify stuff, it keep the option all greyed out11:37
rittapzorglu_: yeah, tell me about it :)11:37
zorglu_oh so im not the only one :)11:38
josh_Command '/usr/share/avahi/enable_avahi 1' not found.11:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about avahi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:38
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zorglu_try install 'avahi-utils'11:38
zorglu_it is a zeroconf deamon11:39
rittapah I see :)11:39
zorglu_!info avahi-utils11:39
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ubotuavahi-utils: Avahi browsing, publishing and discovery utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.10-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 32 kB, installed size 140 kB11:39
rittap!info avahi > rittap11:39
ubotuPackage avahi does not exist in any distro I know11:39
zorglu_there are a bunch of package, i dunno what are their respective purpose11:39
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rittapah well11:40
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rittapI hate bots anyway :)11:40
zorglu_!info *avahi*11:41
ubotuPackage avahi does not exist in any distro I know11:41
zorglu_ok globbing doesnt work11:41
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rittapzorglu_: you know anything about grub?11:43
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zorglu_basic knowledge to get mine working with multiple linux11:43
zorglu_what is your question11:44
rittapI installed kubuntu 6.06 to my IDE HD, and it gives a read error when loading grub11:44
zorglu_i cant believe xine doesnt implement http source properly11:44
rittapright after a clean install11:44
zorglu_is there a window on the box11:44
rittapjup, SATA HD11:45
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zorglu_is the livecd was able to read the hd right ?11:45
rittapI have them both mounted atm (i am working on livecd)11:45
zorglu_hmm i dunno what is a SATA hd11:46
zorglu_i know this is a 'new' norme but no more11:46
zorglu_are they special, like requiring another driver ?11:46
rittapdunno really11:46
damiandon't worry guys11:46
rittapSerial ATA, and linux sees it as /dev/sda11:46
damianwindows vista is coming soon11:47
damianthen you can all stop using linyx11:47
ElgfarYea right...11:47
rittapdamian: ugh that's straightforward11:47
rittapdamian: so you really believe that M$ is critical bug proof this time11:47
rittapdamian: then go dream along11:48
ElgfarIf i'm migrating from Linux - it will be to a *BSD platform11:48
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zorglu_damian: ok please take this discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic11:48
zorglu_and please ALL dont feed him11:48
rittapzorglu_: LOL :)11:48
damianzorglu haha i get it don't feed the troll never *ever* heard that one before11:48
zorglu_rittap: hard you using raid ?11:49
rittapzorglu_: nope11:49
rittapzorglu_: definitely not11:49
rittapmaybe you want to take a look on the /boot/grub/menu.lst11:50
rittapwait i'll send you the file!11:50
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zorglu_yep the one from the installed partition11:50
zorglu_use pastebin11:50
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:51
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zorglu_this one is rather slow, we should put a faster one in there11:51
freeflyinganyone here use da_DK as default locale? thanks11:51
rittapoh i was thinking to just send the file over11:51
rittapbut if you want pastebin11:52
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zorglu_via dcc ? i dont even know if we can11:52
Martijn81freeflying: nope, NL here, why?11:52
rittapzorglu_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25954/11:52
freeflyingMartijn81: need someone reproduce a bug11:53
pointwoodanyone know how to get konqueror to keep the bookmarks toolbar hidden? It seems, every time I reboot, konqy shows the bookmarks toolbar again :(11:53
zorglu_rittap: see it doesnt start. gessing some nat/firewall issue11:54
rittapzorglu_: was worth the try11:54
zorglu_rittap: yep :)11:54
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rittapzorglu_: ah well you have the link anyways11:54
zorglu_rittap: using "df" can you give me the line for the root of the installed system11:55
ubotuGraphical representations of where your disk-space is being used are: baobab (GNOME), filelight / kinfocenter (Kubuntu). On the terminal: df -h -T11:55
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zorglu_rittap: or simpler, type "df" in a terminal and paste the output in pastebin11:55
rittapzorglu_: lol i just had the line hang on11:56
rittapzorglu_: please note that i am running live cd11:56
rittapzorglu_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25955/11:56
rittapzorglu_: /dev/hda1 is the /11:57
zorglu_as faster pastebin there is pastebin.ulteo.us or pastebin.ca11:57
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zorglu_hmm it is /dev/hda111:57
zorglu_like in the grub11:57
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zorglu_i was wondering because me googling seems to show that other use /dev/sda1 for SATA11:58
abelhbuenos dias11:58
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.11:58
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rittapzorglu_: hold, SATA drive is windows, IDE is linux11:58
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zorglu_rittap: what do you mean ?11:59
zorglu_rittap: you got 2 disk ?11:59
rittapzorglu_: I got 2 disks, 1 SATA which is for windows, 1 IDE which is for linux11:59
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rittapzorglu_: SATA drive is in linux device /dev/sda, IDE drive is /dev/hda12:00
zorglu_abelh: type "/joint #ubuntu-es"12:00
DHGErittap: uncomment the maps12:00
DHGEeh comment12:00
rittapDHGE: sorry?12:01
zorglu_he mean at the end of the menu.lst12:01
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DHGEsata is 012:01
DHGErittap: put a "#" before the map lines ...12:01
zorglu_DHGE: you think that the chainloader could prevent linux from booting ?12:01
rittapDHGE: done12:01
rittapDHGE: should i reboot ;)12:02
DHGEwhat else? ;-)12:02
zorglu_DHGE: can you explain the 'comment the map line' thing ?12:02
rittapDHGE: yeah!12:02
rittapDHGE: i will reboot!! :)12:02
rittapsee ya in a bit!12:02
DHGEit reverses the sequence in which grub sees the HDs12:02
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rittapzorglu_ & DHGE: back12:16
rittapstill no go12:16
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rittapDHGE: what bios option did you say I should check?12:17
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silver_hookHi! I've got a sliiiiight problem - I'm a Gentoo user, but need to know how to install Kopete (0.12.1 or .2) on Kubuntu via Adept. Can anyone explain this to me? I need it to complete an article for TUX12:27
zorglu_1. launch adept12:28
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zorglu_2. type 'kopete' in the search box12:28
zorglu_3. select the kopete package, right click to get the pop up menu12:28
zorglu_4. select install in the popup menu12:28
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zorglu_5. select apply change12:29
silver_hookthanks :)12:29
fdoving!info kopete dapper12:29
ubotukopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6.2 (dapper), package size 5068 kB, installed size 16980 kB12:29
zorglu_and it will download and install kopete12:29
silver_hookbtw, is 0.12.1 (or later) in kopete anyway?12:29
fdovingi doubt that, if you're running dapper.12:29
Martijn816. don't forget to get yourself a cup of coffee12:29
TheGateKeepersilver_hook: kopete comes with kubuntu lol12:29
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zorglu_i got 0.11.1 installed12:30
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silver_hookTheGateKeeper: yes, but the MUC support in Jabber is only really usable since 0.12.1 :S12:30
zorglu_i think 0.12 is in backport12:30
silver_hookzorglu_: backport?12:30
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zorglu_silver_hook: a repository for the stuff which have been declared stable enought to go into dapper (the stable version)12:31
zorglu_edgy being de dev one12:31
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zorglu_so it go into edgy and then into dapper12:32
zorglu_btw im not expert at those stuff, better ask on #kubuntu-devel for authoritative answer about the release process12:32
silver_hookzorglu_: so, the steps are the same only selecting "edgy" where?12:32
zorglu_silver_hook: i dont understand your quesiton, can you rephrase ?12:33
TheGateKeeperedge is the next version of kubuntu to be released at the end of the month12:33
silver_hookzorglu_: the thing is that the Kopete version to be installed *needs* to be at least 0.12.112:34
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zorglu_ah okf12:34
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zorglu_ok then 1. make sure that kopete 0.12.1 is actually in backports12:34
Martijn81zorglu_: from apt-cache policy here it looks like 0.12.1 is in http://kubuntu.org dapper/main Packages12:35
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zorglu_so i was wrong...12:35
zorglu_how come i only got 0.11.1 then...12:35
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patrick__Octan - Do you know an alternative to M$ its ActiveSync program?12:35
patrick__Or anybody else :P12:35
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llogiqndiswrapper doesn't seem to work, :-( Maybe a reboot will do it... cu then.12:36
fdovingpatrick__: multisync maybe?12:36
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Martijn81zorglu_: probably because i have kde 3.5.4 installed12:37
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silver_hookMartijn81: sooo, I just follow those 5-6 steps above and it will be 0.12.1+?12:37
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zorglu_Martijn81: yep, i just checked and 0.11.1 is the last available for me... but 3.5.4 is in main ?12:38
TheGateKeepersilver_hook: if it's the repos that you are using12:38
Martijn81no it's not, afaik12:38
Jucatooctan: hi! are you there? :)12:39
silver_hookok, i'm lost now12:39
zorglu_Martijn81: something is wrong :)12:39
zorglu_silver_hook: ok the step i gave at the begining are good in anycase. now the point is to setup the repository to get this particular version of kopete12:39
TheGateKeepersilver_hook: well both me & zorglu_have the earlier version, if there was a latter version in the repos we would have had the updates12:40
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zorglu_TheGateKeeper: can you identify where is kopete 0.12.112:40
Jucatozorglu_: not on Dapper, I'm afraid12:41
zorglu_Jucato: is it in backport ? or in edgy ?12:41
Jucatozorglu_: edgy only. didn't hit dapper-backports yet12:41
TheGateKeeperzorglu_:   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19027312:42
patrick__I need a little help on partition probs. I have apr.17GB on the hdd that is not used, but with qparted and things like that I cant seem to give my ubuntu the extra space... (It's 80GB total, 40 for windows and 2x17GB where 1x17 is for Kubuntu...) Any ideas?12:42
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zorglu_silver_hook: ok so you got 2 possibilties, either you update to edgy, but this implies a whole lot of other unstable package too, or you use an 'unofficial deb' from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19027312:43
Martijn81zorglu_: yeah my version is because of kde 3.5.4, i should've put my glasses on earlier...12:43
TheGateKeepersilver_hook: you do know that adept is just a gui for apt-get which uses the repos in /etc/sources.list??12:43
zorglu_silver_hook: currently 0.12.1 is not available officially for dapper (stable version). it is only available for edgy12:43
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silver_hookyes, i understand so far ...like synaptic and yum were before12:44
Jucatozorglu_: actually 0.12.1 is available on Dapper. 0.12.2 is not. my mistake12:44
zorglu_silver_hook: or some people made a dapper compatible package themselves and made it available. but it is not 'official'12:44
zorglu_maouaouaoua :)12:44
Jucatosorry :(12:44
zorglu_silver_hook: so erase all that :)12:44
zorglu_Jucato: how come i dont get it via apt-get then ?12:45
TheGateKeepersilver_hook: I still use synaptic with kubuntu as I don't really like adept12:45
JucatoKopete 0.12.1 is with the Kubuntu KDE 3.5.4 packages12:45
zorglu_Jucato: kde 3.5.4 is not in main, no ?12:45
Jucatojust add the kubuntu.org repository for kde 3.5.412:45
zorglu_i mean is this 'in dapper' ?12:45
Jucatozorglu_: no. KDE updates are not put in main12:45
Jucatozorglu_: no, there is KDE 3.5.4 for Dapper available12:46
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Ash-FoxOr you can use http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kopete/ with the current stable12:46
zorglu_ok so lets summarize for silver_hook12:46
zorglu_silver_hook: still here ?12:46
Martijn81Jucato: where have you learned to type so lightning fast....12:46
Jucatohm.. in High School actually :)12:47
silver_hookzorglu_: yea, but getting more and more confuzed12:47
zorglu_silver_hook: dont worry i will summarize12:47
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zorglu_silver_hook: ok the 5 step to get kopete from adept remain good. you still got them ?12:47
TheGateKeepersilver_hook: your a gentoo person this should be childs play to you :-)12:48
zorglu_Martijn81: you can practice typing with exercice , it works real well12:48
silver_hookzorglu_: i do, yea12:49
silver_hookTheGateKeeper: it's not a problem for me to do - I've been using Debian and Slackware in my lifetime as well :P12:49
zorglu_silver_hook: ok, you understand what repositories are ?12:50
silver_hookTheGateKeeper: the problem is putting this as coherently and siple as possible in an article for TUX magazine :S12:50
silver_hookzorglu_: yup12:50
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Martijn81zorglu_: yeah i should do that, i have a good keyboard (happy hacking lite2) for it as well :)12:50
zorglu_silver_hook: ok by default the kopete version available in dapper is 0.11.1 . to get the 0.12.1 you need to enable the kde-354 repository as it is explained in http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php12:51
Ash-Foxor you can just update kopete by itself from http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kopete/12:51
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zorglu_silver_hook: 1. you enable the kde 3.5.4 repository 2. you update the apt-get cache via "fetch update" in adept 3. you do the 5steps given earlier12:52
JucatoAsh-Fox: it would probably work if and only if the new Kopete will work with pre-KDE 3.5.4 libs12:52
silver_hookzorglu_: ok, thnks :)12:52
Ash-FoxJucato, it worked for me, although it's version 0.12.012:53
zorglu_silver_hook: does this answer your question ? any other ?12:53
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silver_hookzorglu_: i think it does - i'll just have to look at the bit how to add the repersitory (in a GUI) etc. :P12:53
silver_hookbut yea, thanks :)12:53
zorglu_silver_hook: cool :)12:53
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TheGateKeepersilver_hook: would it not be safer using the cli & leaving adept out of it?12:54
gyai need webcam record12:54
JucatoAsh-Fox: that couldwork :)12:54
JucatoTheGateKeeper: how come?12:54
silver_hookTheGateKeeper: cli?12:54
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zorglu_guys dont confuse him again :)12:55
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TheGateKeepersilver_hook: yep just tell them to open up consol and do the following commands...12:55
Jucatosilver_hook: CLI = Command Line Interface12:55
silver_hookif you ask me ...i'd probably do it with apt-get :P12:55
silver_hookoh, well ...that, yea12:55
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TheGateKeepersilver_hook: that's what I am on about12:56
JucatoTheGateKeeper: it's easier for the one giving the instructions, but bewildering to the recepient. not to mention it's actually less safe if there were typographical errors12:56
Jucatounless of course, the one asking already knows enough about apt-get or sources.list12:57
TheGateKeeperJucato: he is writting an article for tux mag, how hard is it to copy paste?12:57
silver_hookI *would* just tell them to apt-get it ...but TUX is rather strict about not using CLI12:57
Samuli^I think the gui for apt in KDE is called adept12:58
JucatoTheGateKeeper: ^^^^^ does that answer your question?12:58
Samuli^or kpackage might've been another one.12:58
JucatoKPackage is the older (but IMHO more stable/reliable) one. Adept is newer and is still a bit um... new :)12:58
Samuli^kynaptic? :D12:58
JucatoSamuli^: ugh! :P12:59
Samuli^I like adept.12:59
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JucatoAdept is good if you know what you're doing. otherwise...12:59
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fdovingadept is good for regular users package management needs too.01:00
TheGateKeepermay be TUX should change sides to windows lol01:00
Samuli^I don't see how it's easier to bork your system with adept than it is with kpackage01:00
JucatoTheGateKeeper: consider TUX's target audience01:00
Jucatofdoving: regular/more advanced users, yes. newer users?....01:00
TheGateKeeperJucato: I was that's why I suggested copy/paste lol01:01
JucatoSamuli^: for one, Adept doesn't prominently inform you of changes that will take place, nor does it ask for user confirmation01:01
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Samuli^Jucato. you're probably right. I haven't use neither in a long time.01:02
QuadralI am having problems with installing Kubuntu 6.06 from LiveCD. Installer just stops at "Scanning the mirror". Any ideas what to do?01:02
JucatoTheGateKeeper: since when did copy/paste become the preferred method for newbies? I must have away during that stage01:02
Samuli^jst vaguely remember that I liked adept more, for some reason :)01:02
posei cant use kmobiletools with a bluetooth device!!01:02
fdovingJucato: if you think of the scenario "i need package xxxx" adept is usable to new users too. imho.01:02
JucatoSamuli^: Adept is faster and quicker compared to Synaptic and KPackage. but it really requires you to know what you are doing01:02
zorglu_i love adept01:03
Samuli^I think it's good idea to to have newbies to use terminal from the start.01:03
TheGateKeeperJucato: well it is for lazy sods like me lol01:03
zorglu_i think it is the first tool which make it easy to install software01:03
Samuli^you can tell that there's a way to do it in gui, but this way is faster for you and for me to explain.01:03
Jucatodon't get me wrong. Adept is quick and easy, but not for new users01:03
Samuli^and anyways, perhaps they understand that CLI is nothing like dos is in windows :)01:04
posewhen releases edgy final version?01:04
Jucatofdoving, you've been in the forums. have you seen how many times people have complained about Adept removing packages without telling them?01:04
Jucatoor at least not prominently informing them?01:04
Samuli^hmm, does adept use aptitude or apt as it's backend?01:04
fdovingJucato: ohwell.. true :)01:05
JucatoI don't mind just telling users to copy/paste stuff. But I've encountered some people who are quite skeptical of just pasting commands. at least with GUI instructions, they see what they're doing every step of the way01:06
thygrrrhow would I go about upgrading to Xorg 7.101:06
Jucatothygrrr: I'm afraid no simple way to do that on Dapper afaik01:07
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thygrrrJucato, thanks.01:09
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TheGateKeepersilver_hook: good luck01:09
fdovingsilver_hook: ^^01:10
Jucatothygrrr: Edgy Eft, which will be out in a few weeks, would be using 7.1 iirc01:10
thygrrrJucato, I might have a look at that.01:10
silver_hookbtw ...the kde-3.5.4 repersitory has kopete as a separate package or will it upgrade the whole kde?01:10
thygrrrJucato, though I'm wary of tearing down my entire working system just because one problem with LWJGL.01:11
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Jucatosilver_hook: it will upgrade the whole KDE. I'm not sure if 0.12.1 will work with KDE 3.5.2 packages/libs01:11
silver_hookJucato: it works for me on Gentoo (0.12.1 and kde-3.5.2)01:12
fdovingsilver_hook: if you add the kde 3.5.4 repository and use adept to upgrade, it will upgrade the whole of kde. if you use the url i gave you, you'll get kopete only.01:12
Jucatosilver_hook: that's Gentoo01:13
silver_hookfdoving: the imbrandon one?01:13
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Jucatofdoving: problem is if silver_hook will be putting that up in TUX, don't you think he should at least inform imbrandon first?01:13
fdovingJucato: maybe..01:14
fdovingJucato: i kinda think of it like "it's public, go get it"01:15
Jucatowell, at least he should be informed that his server is probably going to get some heavy traffic :P01:16
silver_hooki think the bigger problem is that maybe TUX won't like it that the rep is not an official one :S01:16
Jucatowell, there's also that :)01:16
fdovingsilver_hook: then tell them imbrandon is a kubuntu developer.01:16
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fdovingit's as close to official it getts, without being official.01:17
will_hey all01:17
will_im a HUGE n00b to linux who needs to ask some hugely noob questions01:17
Jucatoanyone running KDE 3.5.3 right now?01:17
will_only just got ubuntu installed01:17
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:17
will_:P kk01:17
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fdovingsilver_hook: talking to imbrandon first, would be a good idea, he might not want you to use the packages for some reason. or he might have better suggestions. :)01:17
will_ive downloaded the firefox archive now how do i install this/get it to run and where am i supposed to put applications?01:18
Jucatosilver_hook: while KDE 3.5.4 on Dapper has Kopete 0.12.1, I'm not so sure if upgrading to it would be something I'd recommend to TUX readers, at least for now...01:18
will_i feel stupid putting an application i nmy home folder01:18
Jucatowill_: you don't have to do that to install Firefox. you can install it easily from Ubuntu's repositories01:18
silver_hookJucato: that's why i asked :S01:18
fdovingJucato: i'll support you on that, i do not recommend upgrading to the 3.5.4 packages from kubuntu.org, they have issues.01:19
will_Jucato: how would I do tht?01:19
Jucatolet me check what version of Kopete that comes with KDE 3.5.301:19
KDEfanboyfdoving: issues?01:19
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ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues01:19
Jucatowill_: ^^^^01:19
JucatoKDEfanboy: some known bugs01:19
Jucatothat won't probably get fixed :(01:19
silver_hookfdoving: there's only one problem with contacting imbrandon - I have to send the changes to the article in 24h :S01:20
fdovingKDEfanboy: yes, bugs,like one where kpersonalizer starts every time you login.. etc. and as jucato says they most likely won't be fixed for dapper since the focus now is the next release, edgy.01:20
Jucatowell, not even after edgy probably...01:21
will_lol how do i do !install :S01:21
JucatoKDE 3.5.3/3.5.4 on Dapper isn't part of the "warranty"01:21
TheGateKeeperwill_: sudo apt-get install firefox01:21
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will_nice one :D01:22
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TheGateKeeperJucato: [12:22]  <TheGateKeeper> will_: sudo apt-get install firefox  <-- notice I don't give some rambling explaination how to use adept :-)01:23
fdovingsilver_hook: send him a mail - you'll find info on https://launchpad.net/people/imbrandon01:23
markeibhi! can you tell me where (KDE) icons are stored so i can manipulate them?01:23
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Jucatoyour call, since you're the one who replied01:23
will_say i've just compiled an app and I want that to be 'installed' too, how do i do tht?01:23
fdovingmarkeib: /usr/share/icons/01:24
TheGateKeeperwill_: use checkinstall01:24
silver_hookfdoving: thanks :)01:24
fdoving!checkinstall > will_01:24
Jucatowill_: if you follow those links, there would be instructions. but for compiling, I agree with TheGateKeeper. use "checkinstall" instead of "make install"01:24
markeibthank you!01:24
TheGateKeeperwill_: you are using a bianry distro so it should be unneccessary01:24
will_thx alot :D01:24
Jucatomarkeib: /usr/share/icons for those installed by the admin/root (using sudo or Adept/apt-get/etc) and ~/.kde/share/icons for those installed by the user01:25
TheGateKeeperwill_: if you like compiling stuff use gentoo or sourcemage :-)01:25
JucatoTheGateKeeper: so you mean I can't stay on Kubuntu if I like to compile stuff?01:26
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TheGateKeeperwill_: you might this usefull too01:26
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Jucatohi Hobbsee! :)01:26
TheGateKeeperJucato: not what I said, waste of cpu cycles lol01:27
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Hobbseehey Jucato01:27
will_now tht ive installed firefox i cant seem to find it :S01:27
will_how do i get it into my kde menu thingy01:28
will_lol almost said start menu there01:28
markeibok Jucato if i copy a folder in ~/.kde/share/icons will it be recognised as an installed theme?01:28
TheGateKeeperwill_: try logging out then back in01:28
Hobbseewill_: either add it manually, or run kappfinder.01:28
Hobbseethat works too01:28
Jucatomarkeib: I'm not  totally sure01:28
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Jucatobut probably yes01:29
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markeibi'll just try ^^01:29
markeibbut how do i copy directories?01:29
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Jucatomarkeib: but you can install fonts that come in .tar.gz files (archives) easily using System Settings > Appearance > Icons01:30
will_thx all :D01:30
TheGateKeeperJucato: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=28559&highlight=portage <---- have fun :-)01:30
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JucatoTheGateKeeper: I said "if"01:31
Jucatofdoving: are you still around?01:33
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infulSmall question for those who know the answer:)01:34
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infulMe and my wife is usually logged in on the same machine (two vt's), my wife has an iPod, but it is automounted some times  with her user permissions, some times with mine. Is there any way to let HAL set permissions on the iPod (or any usb storage device) acording to device id or something like that?01:37
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fdovingJucato: somehow.01:37
Jucatofdoving: oh ok... do you somehow have/know of a guide about setting up an internal ftp? two machines, Linux and Windows... (related to the problem earlier)01:39
inful(This is even more irritating with my SE-W300i, as it shows up as two devices, and they are usually mounted with two different uids)01:39
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tmdx120Hello, does anyone know how to get a palm to sync with dapper?01:39
Mantitsuse a mouse01:40
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Mantitstmdx120: use a mouse01:40
infultmdx120: I've used kpilot01:40
fdovingJucato: ftp-server? install vsftpd, and set listen_address to the local address of the linux box. (not the public one).01:40
tmdx120Mantits: ???01:41
Jucatofdoving: the local addresss would be
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MantitsMouse is human interface device for hand01:41
zorglu_more like 192.168.*01:41
tmdx120inful: thats what im using.01:41
Jucatofdoving: how could I communicate/transfer files to the Windows box?01:41
infultmdx120: I've used it with a Tungsten E201:41
tmdx120Mantits: I know what  a mouse is. Im trying got sync my palm pilot.01:42
Jucatozorglu_: oh ok01:42
tmdx120inful: I have a m50501:42
zorglu_Jucato: or which mean 'any address'01:42
tmdx120inful: it is "unable to read system information" on my device.01:42
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|lostbyte|Hi Guys.01:43
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infultmdx120: Never seen that error myself AFAIK01:43
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tmdx120inful: AFAIK? Im a newbie01:44
infultmdx120: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-pim&m=103462554922010&w=201:44
Jucatotmdx120: AFAIK means "As Far As I Know"01:44
tmdx120Jucato: thanks.01:45
tmdx120inful: thanks for the info, ill work on  it.01:45
fdovingJucato: with a ftp-client from windows.01:46
fdovingJucato: if you want easy filesharing from/to windows, i'd recommend samba01:46
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Jucatofdoving: I tried that earlier, it was soooo fscking slow. don't know why. probably because of the IP masquerade thing?01:47
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Jucatomy (wired) ethernet card's speed is 10/100 mbps I think01:47
|lostbyte|Jucato, How slow ?01:47
fdovingno, nat shouln't make a difference.01:47
Jucatohm... more than 5 minutes to copy 1.4MB? and stalling most of the time until the operation sort of timed out01:48
fdovingthats not normal.01:48
Jucatoright now, I can't even connect to the laptop.. smb://mshome results in Timeout on server01:48
|lostbyte|Jucato, COuld be a defected wire.01:48
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Jucatohm.. the laptop is happily connected to the internet through my Linux box...01:49
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QuadralI am having problems with installing Kubuntu 6.06 from LiveCD. Installer just stops at "Scanning the mirror". Any ideas what to do?01:49
|lostbyte|Jucato, try the ip of the remote pc.01:50
Jucato|lostbyte|: remote pc = Windows XP laptop?01:50
|lostbyte|Quadral, give it some time there. how long have you waited ?01:50
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Jucato|lostbyte|: ah there yes I can see XP again...01:51
|lostbyte|Jucato, For windows right click on the icon in the notification bar to get the ip.01:51
HobbseeQuadral: idiot question:  do you actually have a working internet connection there?01:52
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Jucatolol!! would you be surprised if what I did was launch "cmd" and type in "ipconfig"?01:52
tmdx120inful: FIXED. THANKS!!!01:52
Jucatook still stalling and still slow...01:52
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|lostbyte|Jucato, :) .. anyways. just use the Xp box ip in konqueror. with smb://01:52
infultmdx120: Good! Happy syncing:)01:53
Quadrali don't think internet is working yet since it need to enable wireless card01:53
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Quadraldon't know why it doesn't just skip this step01:53
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uppisstand by...01:56
thygrrrWhat are the OpenGL and Video Overlay lines in /etc/X11/Xorg.conf for precisely? :)01:56
Jucatofdoving: trying out vsftpd. how do Iknow the local IP of this Linux box?01:57
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tommy_damn kubuntu rox02:00
tommy_installed and everything works from the start02:00
tommy_sound video everything02:00
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tommy_never seen something like that :p02:00
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j2daoshwhat is the command for adding samba users?02:01
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fdovingJucato: the output of 'ip addr' will tell you02:02
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fdovingj2daosh: first you need to have the users added to the system (system settings -> users & groups) - then the command is 'smbpasswd -a username' to add users.02:03
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fdovingJucato: addresses starting with 10., 192.168., 172.16. are private addresses.02:04
Jucatoah ok got that :)02:04
JucatoI just add "listen_address=<ip address>" at the end of vsftpd.conf right?02:05
fdovingJucato: correct.02:05
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Jucatothen using an ftp client on windows, I go to ftp://<ip address of linux box> ??02:06
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josh_what is the command to restart samba?02:07
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lupine_85 /etc/init.d/samba restart ?02:08
lupine_85it might not be called samba - check the dir for appropriate alternatives02:08
josh_/usr/sbin/smbd -restart :)02:08
fdovingJucato: correct.02:08
lupine_85oh, alright then ;)02:09
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lupine_85no - though, surely02:09
fdovinglupine_85: it's named samba :)02:09
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josh_actually you were correct lupine02:10
josh_i dont know what the hell i just restarted....02:10
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josh_oh well02:10
Jucatofdoving: any FTP Client you would recommend on windows?02:11
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josh_use fireftp02:12
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josh_or firezilla if you dont want an ftp extension inyour browser02:12
Jucatojosh_: firezilla is an extension for firefox?02:12
fdovingi prefer some cygwin commandlinestuff :)02:12
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Jucatoah ok02:13
josh_fireftp is an extension... standalone is firezilla02:13
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josh_i have to figure out how to share my drive02:14
josh_the people in the samba room dont speak so they weren't any help02:14
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Jucatosharing using smb:/ here is sooo slow... that's why I'm trying an ftp solution... :(02:15
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Samuli^josh_ man smb.conf ?02:15
fdovingjosh_: get the kdenetwork-filesharing package. and rightclick -> share.02:15
Samuli^or man samba, I don't know if there is manpages for configuration files.02:15
josh_yeah i have it shared out already... but it fails at authentication from other boxes02:15
Samuli^ach, windows?02:15
josh_i have made a smbpasswd username02:15
Jucatoman smb.conf actually02:15
Samuli^what did I say?02:16
josh_it just wont let me connect from a mac or windows02:16
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vikkehello, im having this problem when im trying to ./configure a source, configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!02:24
fdovingvikke: you need the package 'xorg-dev'02:25
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arejayteeis there a command i can use to see where most space is being used on a drive? im quite suprised im using 23 gig of this 27gig hd lol02:26
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Jucatodf -h02:26
vikkefdoving: whew that was alot, but now another error poped up02:26
arejayteeyeah using that already Jucato :)02:27
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arejayteei know where 13 gig of it is, just suprised the rest would be the install of kubuntu lol02:27
Jucatohave you tried Filelight? (GUI)02:27
Jucatooh that one, du02:27
arejayteehrrmm nope02:27
fdovingarejaytee: open konqueror, browse to /02:27
ubotufilelight: show where your diskspace is being used. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99beta6-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 317 kB, installed size 856 kB02:28
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fdovingarejaytee: open konqueror, browse to /, on the menubar find 'view -> view mode -> file size view'02:29
ubotuqt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and a lot of other applications. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package.02:29
arejayteehrmm k02:29
Jucatovikke: you might also need to install kde-devel02:29
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arejayteefudge thats cool02:30
vikkejucato: thats possible, but its complaining about im not having qt, but everything seems broken02:30
Jucatovikke: Qt is already installed, but probably not the development packages you need to compile02:31
fdovingvikke: you need libqt3-mt-dev02:31
vikkefdoving: yes, ive tried, installing kde-devel, libqt3-mt-dev, and lots of other packages i apparently need for this but it seems everything is broken02:32
arejayteethanks fdoving02:33
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arejayteeand Jucato as always lol02:33
arejayteei think i was gotmilk last time though02:33
fdovingvikke: what is it you're compiling?02:33
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vikkefdoving: right now? dekorator, i know i can install it through apt but i get the same error on nativekde themes too i think02:34
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Jucatofdoving: using fireftp, it says "vsftpd: refusing to run with writable anonymous root". what does that mean or what do I do?02:36
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fdovingJucato: that means vsftpd refuses to start when the anonymous root directory,  is writable i guess. (try changing the owneship to root.root on that directory)02:37
Jucatook thanks02:37
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Jucatook this is getting hopeless.. :(02:44
Jucatoer.. I'm getting hopeless I mean02:44
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ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin02:44
ubotuFTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd02:45
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xdemoni have problem with sound02:45
xdemonsoundmax, integrated in asus p4p800se02:46
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thiago_hjy gouyi poulosk pet jiump most02:46
heinkel_111xdemon what is the problem with it?02:46
heinkel_111i have  soundmax02:47
xdemonxine cannot ... drivers02:47
heinkel_111in asus m2n-sli motherboard02:47
heinkel_111mine works just fine02:47
xdemoni have problem only with mp3 players02:47
heinkel_111does it work with oether sound engines?02:47
heinkel_111oss, alasa etc?02:48
heinkel_111no sound at all?02:48
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thiago_bonjour ava?02:48
xdemononly mp3s and music... system sound working...02:48
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fdoving!mp3 > xdemon02:49
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Tokeiitoevery time i need to create vhost for my project in apache2 i need to add it to hosts file02:53
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Tokeiitois there ability to add smth like *.host to hosts?02:53
fdovinglike a wildcard=02:53
Tokeiitobecose all my vhosts are: site1.localhost site2.localhost and etc.02:54
fdovingdon't think /etc/hosts can do that.02:55
fdovinghave to go. bye.02:55
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Jucatooctan: ping?02:56
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tkinteresting.. why would 1 partition not show up in "df" but its accessible?02:57
rambo3ghanas wright wing02:57
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tkand its not even showing up in mount.... but its accessible02:58
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Jucatoer.. sorry about that...02:58
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xdemonhow i can install mp3 codecs?02:59
tk!mp3 > xdemon02:59
rambo3only ubotu knows02:59
Jucatoxdemon: first enable the "multiverse" repository02:59
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:59
Jucatothen look for "libxine-extracodecs"03:00
tkohh, heh, you already seen the mp3 one earlier03:00
tkhmmm I should probably go find out what time my bus leaves03:00
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xdemonbut racoon cannot installs03:03
xdemonsubprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 25503:04
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xdemon!xmms encoding03:04
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xdemoni using it03:05
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bluchhello, where can i find a good looking system monitor03:07
tkdepending on what you wanna monitor, SuperKaramba has some sys mon type stuff03:07
arejayteehrmm what can i use to unrar files ? lol03:08
ubotuunrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free03:09
rootwhy am i root? :P brb03:09
Jucatoarejaytee: just install "unrar" and use Ark03:09
bluchhmm, well i have seen some pictures, from kde-look but i don't know the name of that monitor03:10
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arejayteeand if i had just tried to open them with ark it would have told me lol03:10
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r4sCaLcould someone please help me with getting the dccserver port 59 to work? any links or suggestions?03:11
bluchi want a system monitor that is allways vissible03:12
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rambo3why would i want to click on X button to minimize every program.. damn kde03:13
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Jucatobluch: System Guard Panel Applet? (right-click Panel > Add Applet to Panel > System Guard) ?03:14
tkrambo3: probably the same reason XGL/Beryl setups up functions that use ctrl+scroll wheel  when browsers already (and some text programs) make use of this... *grumbles*03:15
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Shinku I just spent the last twenty minutes rubbing a twelve year old girl's bare chest.03:17
Shinkuwrong channel03:17
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rambo3wannabes want to get on bash.org03:18
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r4sCaLhas anyone here managed to download from someone in irc using port 59?03:19
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r4sCaL(using konversation)03:19
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tkr4sCaL: does Konversation even support remote DCC's?03:24
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tkr4sCaL: from what I see, it doesnt support remote DCC like mIRC does.... (its not a standard DCC thing AFAIK)03:25
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Jucatois it possible to connect a Linux PC and an XP laptop using USB and transfer files?03:33
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Samuli^I doubt that with usb.03:34
Samuli^but who knows03:34
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tkJucato: I wouldnt doubt it.... shouldnt me much diff than a null modem link....03:35
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Samuli^that would be pretty cool if it works.03:35
r4sCaLtk: I heard that there were some work arounds where you can set the port range to any number and then forward port 59 to the port you chose, but I can't figure out how to do that or find a guide that explains it. Maybe it just won't work though...03:35
Jucatotk: that means it's possible? my NIC is only 10/100 mbps, and transferring 300+ MB doesn't go beyond 1MB without stalling...03:36
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Martijn81Jucato: i think there are usb cables with some chip in the middle of the cable, where both computer think the other computer is just an external station. But i could easily be another windows only mess...03:36
Jucatoah.. :(03:36
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tkJucato: I said I wouldnt doubt that its possible, I'm fairly certain I've seen setups for Windows that u.... yah what Martijn81 said :P03:36
m4x1mumwhere does opera store the skin?03:36
Jucatom4x1mum: try ~/.opera ?03:37
Martijn81yeah, not sure if it will work, maybe i should just buy one and test it out03:37
Jucatoheh.. I would make sure it works first before buying one... PC peripherals don't come cheap here... :(03:37
tkbut... I've also seen 9pin serial -> usb adapters which means you could do usb->9pin->null modem.... ->9pin->usb.....03:37
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tkbut the null modem cable might have the workings for the data xfer... never investigated the workings of those03:38
tkhavent used one in 8 years03:38
m4x1mumaaah nevermind i found it, its in /usr/share....03:39
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Martijn81i use samba and a switch though, never got me any problems03:41
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Martijn81Jucato: on BIG file, and the file size says ...TB then? If so: it /looks/ like it's stalling, but it isn't03:42
m4x1mumhow do i check if the internet connection is working or not? is there any software that keep track of that?03:43
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m4x1mumlike in windows there is the connection icon03:43
ubuntu__go to the console and try a ping03:43
JucatoMartijn81: TB?03:43
JucatoMartijn81: it actually stops saying something like the file cannot be copied to the Shared Directory03:44
Martijn81yeah, some thousand TeraByte :p03:44
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Jucatonah it correctly sees it as a few hundred MB's03:44
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Martijn81i see... no i never got that problem yet03:45
Jucatoeven FTP seems to time out...03:45
Jucatoanyway... I'm doing it the hard way, at least for today...03:45
soulrideris anyone else having CPU use issues? i look at my CPU usage graph and it looks like a snake =/03:45
soulriderand im running the apps i allways ran03:45
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Martijn81hehe, yeah we'll get there anyways03:46
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ubuntu__total n00b here, quick Q: where in ubuntu do i activate my tv-out? :)03:48
ubuntu__only screen settings i find is the resolution03:48
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m4x1mumooh crap, whats the url for the normal konquerer?03:53
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m4x1mumdefault homepage i meant03:53
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thunderstormsomewhere use the krusader?03:55
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thunderstormi have a question about it03:55
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thunderstormi want to use it as ftp-client-software03:55
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inamnot exactly a kubuntu question... i've written a very simple helloworld program in C... need to compile it and then make it... would appreciate any help :)03:56
thunderstormif i transfer files to a ftp-server03:56
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m4x1mumyou need gcc installed03:57
inamive installed gcc-4.003:57
thunderstormi have the problem, that the rights of these files where changed03:57
inami dont know how to create a "makefile" :(03:57
thunderstormthe files must have 64403:57
m4x1mumaah makefile, i forgot how to do that unfortunately03:57
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inamoh !03:58
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SonicChaoIs there a program that can alert you when it's a certain time?03:58
Hellviehow to mount an iso image?03:58
Mantitsstrongbad alarm clock03:58
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ubotuTo mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows03:58
inamis there any other irc channel where i could go to with my question ?03:59
SonicChaoMantits: hmm?03:59
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Jucatom4x1mum: Help > Konqueror Introduction03:59
Mantits<SonicChao> Is there a program that can alert you when it's a certain time?|<Mantits> strongbad alarm clock03:59
mrdarcyanybody here know perl 5?03:59
vikkeerr, i dont know whats going on really, but i was trying to install compiz, then i needed to edit the /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc document (ive done that before), and its not how i should be :S, kdmrc merely contains 78 lines of code and not the line i was there to replace03:59
SonicChaoMantits: That doesn't exactly help, A) I don't have a link, B) I don't know if it's in repos or not, etc.04:00
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m4x1mumaah and how do i set it to be the default homepage?04:00
MantitsYou could use WINE04:00
JucatoSonicChao: KOrganizer? KAlarm?04:00
ubotusuperkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org04:00
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SonicChaoJucato: I tried typing "kalarm" in terminal before, but it did nothing04:01
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SonicChaoMantits: >> Wine for an app I'm going to have open for a while?04:01
JucatoSonicChao: of course you'd need to have it installed?04:01
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SonicChaoJucato: Isn't it part of the default install?04:01
JucatoSonicChao: you can use KOrganizer (KDE Calendar) from Kontact04:01
Jucatoafaik, no04:01
SonicChaoJucato: Then I'll install it...04:02
Jucatom4x1mum: Settings > Save View Profile > check Save URL in profile. (Make sure that you only have one tab open and that it's set to the Konqueror Introduction page04:02
SonicChaoJucato: You were right, it is not default04:02
JucatoSonicChao: why not KOrganizer? it has a reminder daemon too04:02
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SonicChaoJucato: I don04:02
SonicChao't use Kontact04:03
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JucatoSonicChao: you can launch KOrganizer separately from Kontact, you know04:03
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octanJucato, pong04:03
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SonicChaoJucato: No, didn't know that.04:03
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JucatoSonicChao: well now you do :)04:03
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thunderstormi need help with the software krusader - somewhere knows it?04:04
Lecherohi boys04:04
m4x1mumaaah thanks04:04
Lecheroyes, krusader is like total commander04:04
Jucatooctan: hi! I gave up on FTP... :(04:04
octanwhy ?04:04
thunderstormLechero: you know it?04:04
SonicChaoJucato: XD Well, I already installed KAlarm04:04
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Lecherothunderstorm: i know it04:04
Jucatoif transferring files using samba stalls then stops, using FTP does the same after some time...04:04
thunderstormLechero: i want to use it for ftp04:04
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thunderstormLechero: but i have this problem: locally the files have these rights: -rw-r--r--04:05
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SonicChaoJucato: Ok, figured it out. =3 Thanks04:05
octanJucato, konqueror can do that with samba too :p04:05
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Jucatooctan: yeah that's what I'm doing with smb:/04:06
Lecherothunderstorm: i am sorry i only use krusador for local files, for ftp i use konqueror :(04:06
thunderstormthunderstorm: if i transfer these files to my ftp-server, krusader change the rights so: -rw-------04:06
Jucatobut I don't know why it keeps on stalling..04:06
octanit sounds odd04:06
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Jucatovery odd... or is it because my NIC is only 10/100 mbps?04:07
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Hellvieand how to convert img to iso?04:07
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HawkwindHellvie: An .img file is basically nothing more than an .iso04:08
Hellviei cant mount it :(04:08
HawkwindHellvie: You can mount the .img file just like an .iso and view it or add things to it04:08
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Hellviewrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop1,04:09
DankerHow to list groups and users from konsole?04:09
HawkwindHellvie: mount -o loop -t iso9660 /full/path/to/foo.iso /mnt/some/mount/point/you/created04:09
Hellviethats what i get04:09
Hellvietried it04:09
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HawkwindJucato: Good morning :)04:09
JucatoHawkwind: hi! :)04:09
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DankerFor me its almost evening :)04:10
LecheroFidel has cancer04:10
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m4x1mumdoes cedega use some serial number to install?04:11
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deiu_cosmawho know how install GNOME on Kubuntu?04:12
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LjLdeiu_cosma: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop04:12
Jucatodeiu_cosma: "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop" or "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"04:12
LjLdeiu_cosma: yeah better do it with aptitude -- you'll be able to remove it easier04:13
ubotuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide04:13
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ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows04:13
Monquewhere is xorg.conf stored04:13
MonqueI screwed it up04:13
JucatoMonque: /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:13
inamm4x1mum, i just said "gcc-4.0 helloworld.c" and it gave me a a.out ! and if i run it, i get "hello world" on the konsole :))04:13
Hellviehmm i still get errors whem mounting that img :|04:15
m4x1mumwhat is the latest version of cedega?04:16
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Monqueso somehow my xorg.conf identifies my card as an ati card04:17
Monquebut has the nvidia driver04:17
Monquemy card isan original geforce btw04:18
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Monqueany ideas?04:18
B-Minusdoes anyone know a good network scanner ? so i can put in 2 ip ranges and it scans all ranges in between ?04:18
JucatoMonque: did you install the nvidia driver?04:19
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MonqueJucato: thats what screwed it up04:19
Monquewhere is my backup saved?04:19
BluesKajHowdy Folks!04:19
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JucatoMonque: what do you mean "screwed up"?04:20
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Monquex wont start up04:20
Monquewhen i try it shows the first loading thing, but with no dialog04:20
JucatoMonque: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper04:20
MonqueI need legacy drivers04:21
JucatoI think you didn't install the linux-restricted-drivers?04:21
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Monquecould be it04:21
JucatoMonque: it has instructions there for legacy drivers04:21
Jucatobtw, what GeForce is your card?04:21
Monquegeforce 104:21
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MonqueI need to get into kde first04:21
maryen|hidingmonque, to revert to normal x settings in dapper, type "dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"04:22
Jucatooh. never knew it was legacy already04:22
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vikkei dont know if its just me, but i think my /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc document has totally changed, i was going to replace a line of code, when i noticed it didnt exist, and the document only contained 90 lines of code, i remeber it contained like 550 lines04:34
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Jucato550 lines?04:35
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Jucatoisn't that a bit overkill for a config file?04:35
arunkalehey people04:35
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arunkalehey jucato04:35
Jucatohi arunkale04:35
vikkeah here, if found someone pasted it how i thought it used to look http://pastebin.ca/7829604:36
arunkalehow's it going?04:36
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HawkwindJucato: By default mine is 564 lines actually04:37
vikkewhatver, mine merely contain 80, im confused04:37
Jucatohow can that be?04:38
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HawkwindJucato: Look at yours.  I have never touched mine and mine has 564 lines currently04:39
Jucato78 lines04:39
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HawkwindJucato: Wow, very odd indeed04:39
Jucato /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc ?04:40
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HawkwindHeck, the first 62 lines are commented out in that file04:40
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gnomefreakmine is 564 lines default04:41
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Jucatobut still... 500+ lines?04:41
Hawkwind 564,1         Bot04:41
HawkwindThat's directly from vi04:41
HawkwindJucato: Yep.  It's like that in Mandriva as well04:41
jodyhey can anyone tell me what package the "strings" utility is in?04:41
Jucatook.. mine is just weird then04:41
HawkwindGoes to show how bloated KDE is I guess :P04:41
gnomefreakJucato: you want a normal file? ill pastebin it04:42
Jucatowhy would I need 500+ lines if 78 lines work fine?04:43
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vikkebut im trying to install compiz, and it says i need to replace a line in kdmrc witch dont exist apparently04:43
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TheHighChildHey guys, does anyone know if it's possible to run Linux inside or alongside of Windows (simultaneosly)04:49
Jucatoqemu (er...)04:49
vliegendehuiskatbut I don't have any experience with it04:49
TheHighChildThey make VMware for Windows?04:49
vliegendehuiskatthough xen requires doublecore04:49
JucatoTheHighChild: yes04:49
Jucatoyou can run Linux on Windows or Windows on Linux with VMWare04:49
B-Minusis there a bandwidth monitor included in kubuntu ?04:50
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TheHighChildok, I'll check it out. I have to use WIndows for work but it's just too retarded, I'd like to be able to crack open a terminal and whatnot, without Cygwin04:50
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TheHighChildthanks Jucato04:50
Hawkwindvliegendehuiskat: Xen does not require double core04:50
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TheHighChildIt's a high-spec DC machine, so I'm sure it will run fine. I was curious becase I saw a proof of concept with running Knoppix on XP, wasn't sure if it was developed beyond that04:51
vliegendehuiskatIt doesn't?04:51
vliegendehuiskatthan I should really go have a look at it when i've got time04:52
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larsbjarIn konqueror I activated something called "share this directory on the web". Now I got this blue globe logo on my panel managing my shared folders. How do I stop this service?04:53
Hawkwindlarsbjar: Right click on it maybe ?04:55
larsbjarHawkwind: :) nope. Im04:56
larsbjarnot that stupid04:56
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larsbjarleft/right click gives me: new server...04:56
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josh_what is the command that makes a .deb after you compile something?04:57
LjLit doesn't really make a proper .deb like the ones you get from the repos, mind you04:57
Hawkwindjosh_: Build things properly instead of using checkinstall04:57
JucatoHawkwind: calm down :)04:57
Hawkwindjosh_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5100304:58
josh_im going to build them properly... checkinstall will just be for the uninstall later04:58
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ubotucheckinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page. - DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!04:58
Hawkwindjosh_: Follow that how-to, it's quick and simple and will save you trouble04:58
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:58
Hawkwindjosh_: It's best to not use checkinstall at all.  It can and has destroyed systems before04:58
Dr_willissounds like a bug. :)04:59
claudiowhen i try to compile kernel and I do make menuconfig04:59
claudioi get an error04:59
LjLclaudio: install linncurses5-dev04:59
LjLlib even04:59
LjL!info libncurses5-dev04:59
ubotulibncurses5-dev: Developer's libraries and docs for ncurses. In component main, is optional. Version 5.5-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1276 kB, installed size 5904 kB04:59
HawkwindDr_willis: It's just the way checkinstall is coded.  It's a horribly coded product that shouldn't be made available, as well as yada04:59
LjLclaudio: sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev04:59
claudioapt-get intall libncurses5-dev05:00
ubotuyada: Yet Another Debianisation Aid. In component main, is optional. Version 0.48 (dapper), package size 40 kB, installed size 220 kB05:00
Dr_willisHawkwind,  sort of like automatix eh. :)05:00
HawkwindPlease query the bot and do the commands there instead of filling up the channel unnecessarily05:00
Dr_willisbut worse since its in MAIN,05:00
HawkwindDr_willis: Hah, pretty much05:00
claudioto install xchat05:00
claudiohow can i do?05:00
LjLclaudio: sudo apt-get install xchat?05:01
Hawkwindclaudio: sudo apt-get install xchat but you need universe05:01
Dr_willisive noticed that ubuntu reops are slowly thinnin gout a lot of the packates05:01
HawkwindSince xchat is in univese and xchat-gnome is in main for some goofy reason05:01
Dr_willisclaudio,  you may want to read a few of the starter guides on ubuntu/kubuntu homepage..05:01
Dr_willisthe add/remove programs icon in the menu :P is handy as well.05:01
Dr_willisxchat-gnome - is nasty. :)05:01
Dr_willisi compiled xchat 2.4 from source and use that05:02
LjLand perhaps if you don't know how to install packages, you should stay clear of compiling your own kernel for now.05:02
claudioi must get sources from the official xchat website?05:02
Dr_willisLjL,  heh - i was thinking that as well.05:02
LjLenable universe, and run sudo apt-get install xchat05:02
LjL!universe > claudio05:02
claudiowhat is universe?05:02
LjLclaudio: the link explains it05:02
claudiowhat link?05:03
LjLclaudio: the link that Ubotu gave you05:03
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claudiowhat is this?05:05
LjLclaudio: "universe" is a software repository of Ubuntu. another such repository is "main". "main" is enabled by default, since it contains only packages that are officially supported by the Ubuntu team. "universe" does not, so it is disabled by default.05:05
LjLclaudio: an error message during compilation of a kernel ;)05:06
LjLperhaps - just a guess - you're compiling the kernel with gcc 4, while the kernel still only supports gcc 3?05:06
diegohey i have downloaded some themes from kde-look.org but don't know how to install them05:06
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Dr_willisbecause ya then have toexplain how the theme system works. :P05:07
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy05:07
Jucatoer nope. not those...05:07
JucatoDr_willis: yeah, hope it becomes better in KDE4...05:07
ubotuInstall gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=305:07
claudioLjL: when I tried compiling to mdk, it done succeesfully05:07
Hawkwinddiego: You can do it in kcontrol05:07
claudioon kubuntu, i get this error05:07
Jucatowhoa... that's a link to what I wrote! :)05:08
Dr_willisdiego,  often the kde 'themes' are made of 3 different parts.. ya got the kde  window border themes, the  internal widget themes, and the icon themes.05:08
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Dr_willisdiego,  depending on the theme, you can drag/drop the downlaoded package to the theme manager. (for icon themes)05:08
diegoHawkwind: i cvlick on Install new themes but it filters all file i have downloaded05:08
JucatoDr_willis: some of the confusion is caused by kde-look's categories actually05:08
Dr_willisthe others may need to be uncompresed and compiled/installed05:08
ubotuInstall gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=305:08
Jucatodiego: ^^^^^05:08
Dr_willisJucato,  i agree there05:08
claudioLjL: how can i solve this problem?05:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about metasploit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:09
Dr_willisdiego,  you do relize thhat there are a lot of kde themes in the package manager, thats not isntlled by default?  about a dozen or so.05:09
diegohmm ok sorry gnna try all this05:09
LjLclaudio: i haven't the slightest idea. i've stopped compiling kernels after finding out that distributions usually do it better than myself05:09
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claudioLjL: I must do this because I must install patch to open squash fs images05:10
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Dr_willissounds like you got a lot of learning to do first claudio05:11
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule05:11
Dr_willisclaudio,  you may want to just try edgy and see if the new kernel has that feature all ready in there.05:11
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule05:11
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LjLclaudio: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Squashfs05:11
Dr_willisi wonder if that FUSE stuff has a squashfs   add on.05:12
LjLclaudio: doesn't look like you need a custom kernel for that05:12
claudiono no05:12
claudioit is a patch with LZMA compression05:12
claudionot only squash compression05:12
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claudiothis is the patch05:13
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LjLlooks like it is a patch for the 2.6.9 kernel, though05:13
LjLwhat's your kernel?05:13
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claudiobut wont to compile to 2.6.905:14
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claudiobut I get an error05:14
HawkwindWhy would you want to go backwards to a much older kernel ?05:14
MantitsI just downloaded an wrote the dapper drake .iso, then booted with it05:14
claudioHawkwind: because I need this patch05:14
claudioand the patch is only for 2.6.9 kernel05:15
Hawkwindclaudio: Surely that is part of the newer kernels. Have you looked at 2.6.18 at all ?05:15
MantitsI got all the way through the process for running the live CD, but when the blue bar was at 100% it stoped and nothing happened05:15
MantitsWhere do I start for troubleshooting?05:15
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claudioHawkwind: no, I don't have it05:15
Dr_willisMantits,  this is the live cd? or the alternative isntall cd?05:15
Hawkwindclaudio: Look on kernel.org and see if that stuff you need is now part of the kernel.  Chances are it is05:16
MantitsDr_willis: it's the live cd05:16
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Dr_willisMantits,  could try the alternative install cd.. also you may want to try some different boot options.  noapic, noapci,  . also you may want to check the consoles (alt-ctrl-F1 through F5) for any error messages05:18
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MantitsI tried Fedora Core 5 afterward, had problems creating a new partition with that05:19
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claudioHawkwind: where I can see?05:19
Dr_willisi always fall back to  the good old 'fdisk' progartm to make my partitions05:19
Hawkwindclaudio: kernel.org and click on the changelog for the kernel you want to look at.  All the info for every kernel is on kernel.org05:20
MantitsWhat file system should I use?05:20
Mantitsfor kubuntu?05:20
MantitsAnd how large?05:20
LjLMantits: ext3 is the usual choice05:20
Dr_willisext3  - and i think 3gb is the minimal suggested05:20
Dr_willismore is always better05:20
MantitsI'll try 1005:21
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HawkwindMantits: Totally up to you really.  ext3 is decent, but a lot of users prefer ReiserFS due to it being a bit better in certain ways than ext305:21
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B-Minusdoes anyone know a good bandwidth monitoring tool ?05:21
LjLgive me working on-the-fly compression, and i'll switch to reiser without even looking at the number of bugs...05:22
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claudioHawkwind: http://www.beyondlogic.org/nb5/squashfs_lzma.htm05:22
B-Minushow can i make ADEPT show the unstable packages as well ?05:22
Dr_willisLjL,  hmmm.. whats scary  - thats a feature i had on my AMIGA Years ago.05:22
LjLDr_willis: XPK?05:22
HawkwindReiser is a lot better than most people realize.  I've used it for years and never once had an issue with file loss or anything.  It's also faster than ext305:22
B-Minusamiga pwnz you05:23
Dr_willisB-Minus,  theres those check box's at the top. and  the pull down to select package sets.05:23
Dr_willisLjL,  i could have specific 'drives/mountpoints/directories' that compressed stuff on the fly - using diffrent methods.05:23
Dr_willisOf course back then.. 3mb was a large file.05:23
Jucatounstable packages?05:23
B-Minusye i want Knemo05:24
B-Minusbut it doesnt show up on the list05:24
JucatoB-Minus: are you using Add/Remove Programs?05:24
LjLDr_willis: echo >ENV:Clipboards/0 "Dr_willis, thanks, I know :-P"   endcli05:24
Dr_willis!info knemo05:24
ubotuknemo: network interfaces monitor for KDEs systray. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-4 (dapper), package size 173 kB, installed size 804 kB05:24
Dr_willisB-Minus,  there ya go.. enable universe05:24
MantitsDr_willis: :(( fdisk gives me an error too05:24
Dr_willisMantits,  eww.. thats bad.. what kind of error?05:25
m4x1mumis there a free GPS software available?05:25
Mantits"failure reading boot manager"05:25
Hawkwindm4x1mum: Tons of them actually05:25
Dr_willism4x1mum,  check freshmeat.net05:25
Hawkwindm4x1mum: freshmeat has hundreds05:25
m4x1mumfor linux?05:25
LjLm4x1mum: what *kind* of gps software?05:25
HawkwindUmmm.....of course05:25
Dr_willis apt-cache search gps05:25
HawkwindWe don't talk much about Windows in here :P05:25
claudioHawkwind: have you red it?05:26
Hawkwindclaudio: No.  I don't need to since everything I need is in the kernel I run05:26
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B-MinusDr_willis: you sure i can enable it in adept manager or do i need to use the console ?05:27
MantitsSo I might have some kind of hard drive problem, but that shouldn't affect the live cd05:27
Mantitsso I've got multiple problems :s05:27
B-Minuscant see the option to enable universe05:27
Hawkwind!universe > B-Minus05:28
Dr_willisB-Minus,  theres a dozen ways to enable it.05:28
Dr_willisIn adept you can just check the 2 check box's at the top. and  have it show all packages.05:29
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.05:29
JucatoDr_willis: you're talking about Adept Installer, not Adept Manager05:29
Dr_willisi run adept from the shell. :)05:29
JucatoAdept Installer = Add/Remove Programs05:29
Dr_willisthey really need to clarify those 205:29
JucatoAdept Manager doesn't have those 2 boxes05:29
JucatoAdept Manager = big guy, Adept Installer = Add/Remove Programs, Adept Updater, then Adept Notifier.the 4 Adept Brothers05:30
Jucato(in)Adept brothers... :P05:30
Dr_willisof course - i recall one guy in here ranting he couldent find those box's either.. he was using  breezy.... we eventually found out.05:30
LjLm4x1mum: if you want a street navigation type program, then there's a problem in that street maps are not in the public domain. the US TIGER data are in the public domain, though, but they're not very complete. RoadMap (http://roadmap.digitalomaha.net/) supports TIGER.  or, you can look at the http://www.openstreetmap.org project for an ongoing effort to create open maps. RoadNav (http://roadnav.sf.net) can read such maps, if you get the latest05:30
LjLexperimental version.05:30
frank_hi can someone pastebin me the /boot/grub/menu.list part for booting windows?05:30
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Dr_willisI think they need a "change mode" button for the adept program :P to simple/advanced mode. lol05:31
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LjLfrank_: i could, but it'd probably be different from the one you need05:31
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the_imaxeinen wundervollen sonntag an alle05:31
Dr_willisEasyAdept Vs Adept05:31
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frank_LjL: I can change the partition05:31
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de05:31
LjLfrank_ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25987/05:31
TheGateKeeperDr_willis: adept is best avoided :-) use apt-get/synaptic05:31
frank_LjL: thanks!05:32
Dr_willisTheGateKeeper,  bah! :P  actually i find that add/remove programs tool - to be rather handy05:32
Mantits:(( I'm throughily exhausted..  I guess no llinux for tonight!05:32
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JucatoDr_willis: except for the fact that both GNOME's and KDE's Add/Remove Programs doesn't seem to display some apps05:33
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems05:33
Dr_willisJucato,  really which ones?05:33
m4x1mumooh ok thanks05:33
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JucatoDr_willis: KWord and KDissert are the ones that I have confirmed so far. there might be others05:34
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JucatoI think KOffice is also missing?05:34
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Dr_willisoh wait i am in ICEwm at the moment.. :P05:34
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Jucatocan't you launch KDE/GNOME apps in IceWM?05:35
Dr_willisproberly can.. but the entry is not there at this time.05:35
Dr_willisi rember why i quit using icewm also..:P05:35
MantitsDr_willis: any troubleshooting guides for "cannot create partition"?05:35
Dr_williswhen i get a message in xchat. the programs-listing button flasshes... for 10 min.. :P05:36
JucatoDr_willis: "adept_installer"05:36
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heinkel_111I have a machine on which I installed sendmail. I later removed the sendmail package, but still the machine tries to start sendmail at startup. How can this be stopped?05:36
Dr_willisMantits,  not really.. other then delete ones there.. write changes.. reboot. try again05:36
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Mantits:S I have Windows on this PC and haven't really backed anything up05:36
heinkel_111is what i see related to sendmail entries in some init file? which? where?05:36
MantitsI just wanted to try a live cd or dual boot05:37
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Dr_willisJucato,  interesting - kword dont show up :P05:38
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Jucatotold yah :)05:38
Karol84PLTo you know any application to let me mount cd image? (like .bin .cue .iso)05:38
Dr_willisfile a bug!05:38
Dr_willisiso's are trivial to mount05:38
TheGateKeeperMantits: if you want to install, probable a good idea to backup, then resize your ntfs partition to make room for linux05:38
Dr_willisothers you normally convert to iso05:38
ubotuTo mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows05:38
JucatoDr_willis: but question is: where?05:38
Mantitslinux can run in ntfs?05:38
Dr_willisJucato,  With Linus!05:39
Dr_willisMantits,  no.. you normally resize the ntfs drives to free up space..05:39
JucatoDr_willis: since it both affects Adept Installer and GNOME App Install05:39
Dr_willisMantits,  is THAT the issue you are having? You do have some Unallocated drive space dont ya?05:39
MantitsI didn't think that through my mind05:39
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MantitsYou're right, I probably don't have any unallocated space05:39
MantitsBut since I can't run fdisk i can't change that either :P05:40
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claudioanyone can help me?05:40
TheGateKeeperMantits: use gparted livcd05:40
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Dr_willisMantits,  defrag/scandisk the xp drives.. run a live cd with gparted to resize the partitions . is what i do05:40
Mantitsalright, googling05:40
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claudioto install superkaramba how can i do?05:44
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MantitsIs there an open source defragger?05:44
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Dr_willistheres no need for one on ext2/3 filesystems05:44
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LjL!find defrag05:44
MantitsWindows uses a stripped down version of a norton product, and I've found it doesn't really work all that well05:44
Dr_willis!info superkaramba05:44
ubotuFound: defrag05:44
ubotusuperkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 504 kB, installed size 1376 kB05:44
MantitsI'm trying to defrag my ntfs partition before I resize it05:45
Jucatoclaudio: enable your main repositories and download superkaramba using Adept05:45
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LjLMantits: no, not for NTFS05:45
Dr_willisMantits,   you cnt boot to windows eh?05:45
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MantitsI can boot to windows, but if I rezie my partition while it's fragmented won't some of the files get cut off?05:45
Mantitswhoa *resize05:45
Mantits<----------- complete nub05:45
TheGateKeeperDr_willis: have you used superkaramba?05:45
claudioJucato: what is repositories?05:46
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LjLthey shouldn't, i think that at most, it won't allow you to shrink it as much as if it were completely defragmented...05:46
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:46
Dr_willisTheGateKeeper,  yes..and i hate it05:46
LjLbut what Dr_willis is saying is to boot windows *in order to defragment from there*, i think05:46
Dr_willisI dont care for desktop-widget-eyecandy05:46
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Jucato!repositories > claudio05:46
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Dr_willisThe Gparted docs advise, scandisk and defrag befor and after using the program on a ntfs drive05:46
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tOnColano-cd install fails05:47
TheGateKeeperDr_willis: I found it the other day while poking around KDE in another distro, isn't it supposed to take the pain out of installing things from kde-look?05:47
tOnColaI am running suse, have some partition with xp on it. I bought a new 250G hd and I want to switch to kubuntu05:48
Dr_willisTheGateKeeper,  SUperKaramba has nothing to do with Themes.05:48
tOnColaI have a dvd-iso but no dvdplaye, nor cdplayer05:48
tOnColaI manage to get grub going on the xp-partition but the installer then keeps asking for a cd05:48
tOnColawhat to do05:48
Dr_willistOnCola,  got a spare pc? ya could try a network boot/install05:49
tOnCola:( nope05:49
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TheGateKeeperDr_willis: <ubotu> superkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE <--- So what does it do?05:49
tOnColais there an easy option for a networ-install or such?05:49
Dr_willisTheGateKeeper,  adds desktop widgets and eye candly like i said.05:50
Dr_willis->  I dont care for desktop-widget-eyecandy05:50
Dr_willis :)05:50
JucatoTheGateKeeper: desktop widgets/mini-apps05:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about autostart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:50
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soulrider!kde auto start05:50
ubotukde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:45ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB05:50
Jucatosoulrider: what are you looking for?05:51
soulriderwhere i can set up what i want to auto start :P05:51
soulriderim gonna install http://forum.beryl-project.org/topic-689-xgl-kubuntu-automatic-xgl-installation and gotta make sure compiz isnt there05:51
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soulrideris ti just one file ?05:52
Jucatosoulrider: it's a directory05:52
claudioJucato: i've installed it05:52
soulriderin it i got a file called05:52
claudioto install superkaramba05:52
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claudioJucato: are you here?05:54
Dr_willisfire up the package manager and search/click/install05:54
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claudioDr_willis: i searched superkaramba but there isn't05:56
MetaMorfoziSwhat program can save only the sound from a video dvd?05:57
MantitsWhile I'm busy cleaning my disk, I found a cool windows program called easycleaner that gets rid of many unwanted files.05:57
Dr_willisafter   setting up the universe/multiverse repos. you must 'refresh' thepackage listing05:57
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Dr_willissudo apt-get update05:57
Dr_willissudo apt-get upgrade05:57
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Dr_willissudo apt-get install superkaramba05:57
octanJucato, have you tryed to block port 445 for ppp0 ? im thinking there is some sort of colision with the data paks when you start to transfere,,05:58
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Jucatooctan: I haven't. don't know how to block ports. but I won't be needing that until next week again. my sister will be going away so no more need to share stuff :P05:58
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Jucatoclaudio: make sure that "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted" is enabled (use the guide that was linked to earlier)05:59
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Jucatooctan: thanks again for all the help :)05:59
pexihi, i want to help with the traslation of power mannager to spanish, someone knows what  i have to do for help??05:59
MetaMorfoziSwhat program canplay dvd with menu etc...?06:00
octanJucato, np.06:00
JucatoMetaMorfoziS: Kaffeine?06:00
MetaMorfoziSand how can i save only the sound from  video?06:00
pexiMetaMorfoziS:  for play dvds you can use kaffeine06:00
MetaMorfoziSkaff handles menus?06:00
claudioE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?06:01
MetaMorfoziSokay, and how can i save the sound from the video?06:01
peximaybe you have to install some packets but kaffeine can06:01
MetaMorfoziSwhat program can do that?06:01
Jucatoclaudio: maybe Adept is already running?06:01
HawkwindMetaMorfoziS: Have you looked at avidemux yet ?06:01
MetaMorfoziSoh... hmm i forget that:D06:02
MetaMorfoziSyes okay, i try06:02
claudioJucato: I don't know06:02
claudioE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?06:03
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pexiclaudio close all terminals06:04
claudioi done06:04
claudioi get another error06:04
pexinow, open one06:04
claudioit don't find superkaramba06:04
pexiand type killall adept_manager06:04
Dr_willis!info superkaramba06:04
ubotusuperkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 504 kB, installed size 1376 kB06:04
Danker!info kompose06:05
ubotukompose: full screen task manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.3-1.3 (dapper), package size 92 kB, installed size 432 kB06:05
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto06:05
Dr_willisclaudio,  id say read a few adept/synaptic howtos and learn to enable the repos/use the program. and figire out what step you missed06:05
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claudioDr_willis: I done06:06
LjLclaudio: if you have enabled universe, but it still isn't working, try typing "sudo apt-get update" and trying again.06:06
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:07
LjLclaudio: if it still doesn't work, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file to us06:07
claudioroot@claudio:/home/claudio# apt-get install superkaramba06:08
claudioIt doesn't find superkaramba06:09
ubotuSaying "I don't see anything", or "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you see a black screen, say so, if you see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an error message, say so, and which error it is, etc.06:09
srednaIs there a freenx package for kubuntu?06:09
Dr_willislogicially that tells us the repos are not set up correctly06:09
Dr_willis!info freenx06:09
ubotufreenx: The FreeNX application/thin-client server based on NX technology. In component freenx, is optional. Version 0.4.4+0.4.5-4ubuntu3 (dapper-seveas), package size 54 kB, installed size 256 kB06:09
LjLclaudio: then you haven't correctly enabled universe, or you haven't updated your cache. please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin06:09
octanMetaMorfoziS avimerge06:09
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srednaTy, Dr_willis06:10
claudioLjL: is too long06:10
LjLclaudio: no it isn't06:11
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:11
srednaDr_willis: Any special apt source I need for that?06:11
Dr_willis In component freenx, is optional.  -- WTF... is  that...06:12
ubotufreenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX06:12
Dr_willisthere ya go06:12
claudiohere it is06:12
LjLDr_willis: deb [WWW]  http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx breezy-seveas freenx06:12
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MetaMorfoziSoctan: thanx, avidemux works well06:13
LjLDr_willis: (scrap the [WWW] , i just copied and pasted from the browser)06:13
octanMetaMorfoziS, ok06:13
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