[12:10] <dennister> good for u motorcity!
[12:10] <|lostbyte|> dennister, tx
[12:10] <xwolf-> rittap fdoving i was out of disk space...
[12:10] <dennister> i believe i was there when u did that motor...and i suggested u use it in another machine
[12:11] <xwolf-> damn kdm wouldn't tell me a thing. i had to install gdm to have that figured out ><
[12:11] <MotorCityMadMan> after you try every thing, read the manual
[12:11] <Samuli^> that is indeed, what normally happens.
[12:12] <dennister> lostbyte: I got 3 lines of response to the dmesg command: one about it not loading and two about it disagreeing about the version of the symbol struct_module
[12:12] <xwolf-> how do i switch back to kdm as default? hehe
[12:12] <|lostbyte|> :-o
[12:12] <dennister> xwollf! tsk tsk
[12:13] <MotorCityMadMan> xwolf-: login srceen
[12:13] <dennister> xwolf knows...he's just trying to pull ur leg
[12:13] <dennister> naughty wolf
[12:13] <|lostbyte|> dennister, paste the  disagreeing line here.
[12:14] <xwolf-> ?
[12:14] <dennister>  msp3400: disagrees about version of symbol struct_module
[12:14] <dennister> I got it tthat message twice
[12:14] <Hawkwind> larson9999: I have it running in vmware and have since early seeders got it
[12:15] <dennister> hi hawkwind
[12:15] <|lostbyte|> Hawkwind, hai..
[12:15] <Hawkwind> Hey there dennister and |lostbyte|
[12:17] <larson9999> Hawkwind: your impression so far?
[12:17] <|lostbyte|> dennister, PVR-350 card ?
[12:18] <dennister> almost: it's a pvr250
[12:18] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Not bad.  Though it's only in vmware so I can build rpms for SoS for Mandriva and nothing more.  I can't checkout the drak3d they have or anything so I can't fully test it
[12:19] <larson9999> Hawkwind: i figured as much but thought i'd check.  this box takes rimm and only 256mb.  i don't have any more rimm so i think i'll look for a less memory intensive solution for now anyway.
[12:20] <larson9999> i mean it's only got 256 in now.
[12:21] <rahmetli> godd bye everybudy
[12:25] <xwolf-> how do i set kdm as default now that i installed gdm?
[12:27] <|lostbyte|> xwolf-, change it in .. /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[12:28] <dennister> sorry motorcity! u were serious..
[12:28] <dennister> <-------red in the face
[12:29] <dennister> to match my font
[12:30] <|lostbyte|> :P
[12:31] <|lostbyte|> xwolf-, change it in .. /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[12:32] <xwolf-> oh, right
[12:32] <xwolf-> thank you.
[12:32] <|lostbyte|> np
[12:34] <dennister> lostbyte? do you know what that dmesg error message was that I pasted?
[12:34] <dennister> i said it was a pvr250
[12:35] <dennister> and this msp problem seems to be fairly common
[12:35] <|lostbyte|> dennister, did you follow a guide ?
[12:35] <dennister> yes i do...and i've been making some real progress...hyams with the 4.0 ivtv drivers, ivtvdriver.org...
[12:35] <dennister> lots of em actually
[12:36] <|lostbyte|> dennister, link me to the guide.
[12:37] <dennister> k, but at the ivtv driver section it does link you to another page with newere drivers: http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html
[12:37] <dennister> I did follow that link cause i'm using 4.7 driver set
[12:38] <dennister> i've also been using the ivtvdriver.org howtos and trying to troubleshoot it
[12:38] <dennister> through that, ubuntuforums, ivtv-users mailing list...
[12:39] <dennister> <------has been struggling for 2 days, and making some progress, but...not there yet
[12:41] <dennister> lots of complaints about msp3400, and no sound, but I can't even get a signal, let alone video or sound, until i get these drivers working
[12:41] <|lostbyte|> dennister,  you have done the firmware step.
[12:41] <dennister> yes, that was not a problem
[12:42] <|lostbyte|> dennister, lsmod | grep ivtv         ..?
[12:42] <dennister> did it first through the ivtvdriver.org site, cause the hyams wasn't working for me, but I finally did get the hyams stuff working
[12:42] <dennister> the audio part of the hyams stuff that is...k
[12:43] <dennister> ran the command, got nada
[12:44] <|lostbyte|> dennister, sudo modprobe ivtv
[12:45] <dennister> got a pause, then commandline back...no error message
[12:45] <|lostbyte|> good
[12:45] <|lostbyte|> Now dmesg
[12:46] <|lostbyte|> and what do the bottom lines say ?
[12:47] <dennister> after my usual 9 warnings, it initializing my card, then the end init ivtv
[12:48] <|lostbyte|> dennister, ls -l /dev/video0
[12:48] <|lostbyte|> ?
[12:49] <dennister> crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 0 2006-10-07 17:45 /dev/video0
[12:51] <|lostbyte|> dennister, cat /dev/video0 > ~/test.mpg
[12:51] <dennister> that i was able to do some time ago...got an mpg of static
[12:51] <zorglu_> serious ? there is a mpg directly out of video0 ?
[12:52] <wildchild> why won't k3b burn avdio data project: unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format  (format is mp3)
[12:52] <dennister> but then again, i don't have a signal yet
[12:52] <dennister> yes zorglu
[12:52] <zorglu_> impressive
[12:52] <dennister> it's a common troubleshooting technique from ivtvdriver.org
[12:53] <|lostbyte|> dennister, you have your card connected to a cable ?
[12:53] <dennister> yes
[12:53] <|lostbyte|> or any signal source.
[12:53] <dennister> to a reg cat cable...
[12:53] <dennister> that's actually from my cable setopbox
[12:54] <dennister> just like when i was using my other tuner to record tv through windows media center
[12:54] <dennister> but the other tuner is an ati, and i'm sure i won't be able to get it working in linux
[12:55] <zorglu_> wildchild: 'sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3' should fix it
[12:55] <|lostbyte|> dennister, i didt try mythtv yet, i use xawtv
[12:55] <dennister> that's why i bought the haupage
[12:55] <MotorCityMadMan> hello: where wood one start looking for kde-user-settings ?
[12:55] <dennister> if i can avoid mythtv, great...that's why i downloaded tvtime: to test the ivtvdriver and other progs
[12:55] <|lostbyte|> MotorCityMadMan, kcontrol
[12:56] <dennister> that comes with it, like the lirc and xmltv
[12:56] <|lostbyte|> dennister, try installed xawtv
[12:56] <dennister> but if the ivtvdrivers don't work now, they won't in xawtv either
[12:57] <|lostbyte|> dennister, by static you mean ? what colour ?
[12:57] <dennister> black
[12:57] <|lostbyte|> dennister, any sound ?
[12:57] <dennister> "no signal" no sound, nada
[12:57] <|lostbyte|> dennister, what about tvtime ?
[12:58] <dennister> "ivtv: invalid argument cannot open capture device /dev/video0
[12:58] <|lostbyte|> :o
[12:58] <dennister> that's what's at the bottom of tvtime
[12:58] <|lostbyte|> dennister, ls -l /dev/video
[12:58] <|lostbyte|> ?
[01:00] <dennister> "-su: /dev/video0: permission denied; ls-: no such file or directory"
[01:00] <rance> ok I need help with a scanner setup installation problem, I see the scanner being connected while tailing /var/log/messages and dont see any errors, it does look like the scanner is using more than one address, but sane-find-scanner cant find the device, but I know that it does work with the version of sane installed
[01:00] <|lostbyte|> huh..
[01:01] <dennister> or was that | an l (L)?
[01:01] <|lostbyte|> l for london
[01:01] <dennister> crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 0 2006-10-07 17:45 /dev/video0
[01:02] <dennister> again...i did that awhile ago
[01:02] <|lostbyte|> dennister, ls -l /dev/video
[01:02] <|lostbyte|> notice no "0" at the end.
[01:02] <dennister> i did, and got the file permission line above
[01:02] <dennister> with an l for london
[01:03] <sfire> I'm having some trouble playing xvid movies... it acts like its playing but it just flys thru them super quick with no video or audio... anyone have a clue what the problem could be?
[01:03] <sfire> I'm playing them in kaffeine
[01:03] <MotorCityMadMan> |lostbyte|: i'm looking for the kde panel settings. like ? sudo kate /xxx/kde-settings/kde-panel
[01:04] <|lostbyte|> sfire, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[01:04] <sfire> I'll try that.. thanks |lostbyte|
[01:04] <dennister> sfire?
[01:05] <dennister> if u have nvidea graphics, get those and linux-restricted, too
[01:05] <|lostbyte|> MotorCityMadMan, huh, right click on pannel > configure panel
[01:05] <MotorCityMadMan> maybe in a conf file ?
[01:05] <dennister> libxine-extra-codecs alone didn't work for me
[01:05] <sfire> |lostbyte|: that did it... thanks :)
[01:06] <MotorCityMadMan> |lostbyte|: i'm looking for the file that stores the settings
[01:06] <dennister> ok...great that it did for u :-)
[01:06] <|lostbyte|> sfire, np
[01:06] <|lostbyte|> oh
[01:07] <|lostbyte|> MotorCityMadMan, look in .kde/share/apps/kicker/
[01:07] <dennister> lostbyte? i did the ls -l command again, and once more got the file permissions for the device
[01:07] <dennister> any ideas?
[01:08] <|lostbyte|> do it with sudo..
[01:08] <dennister> i'm in root terminal, so i shouldn't have to
[01:08] <|lostbyte|> dennister, according, to the guide. the device is up. bit not functioning.
[01:09] <|lostbyte|> but*
[01:09] <dennister> ok....then why do i have so many more files for the others, like saa7127, than i do for the msp3400?
[01:09] <MotorCityMadMan> |lostbyte|: The file or folder  does not exist. do i need to show hidden files ? and how ?
[01:10] <|lostbyte|> MotorCityMadMan, konqueror ?
[01:10] <MotorCityMadMan> yes
[01:10] <|lostbyte|> MotorCityMadMan, view > show hidden files
[01:11] <dennister> but...?
[01:11] <MotorCityMadMan> |lostbyte|: not there under view
[01:11] <dennister> sorry, ik know ur very busy lostbyte...helping so many peole
[01:11] <|lostbyte|> MotorCityMadMan, I have it in mine :S ..
[01:12] <|lostbyte|> dennister, those modules comes with the kernel.
[01:12] <|lostbyte|> nothing to worry about.
[01:12] <MotorCityMadMan> konqueror 3.5.2
[01:12] <Brydenn33> ok need some help
[01:13] <Brydenn33> i'm trying to install Audacious
[01:13] <Brydenn33> and its saying i need configure: error: Cannot find glib2/gtk2/pango
[01:13] <|lostbyte|> :) 3.5.4
[01:13] <|lostbyte|> MotorCityMadMan, One way is to type in ".kde" at the end of the file:// in your home dir.
[01:13] <dennister> no?  then why won't this file and module load? why are there twice as many saa7127 files on the hdd as there are msp3400 ones?
[01:14] <Torched> what games can i play on kubuntu
[01:14] <Brydenn33> Torched: you should try downloading Cedega
[01:14] <Brydenn33> that program will let you play most mainstream games
[01:14] <Brydenn33> they have a pretty large game database
[01:14] <|lostbyte|> Torched, Many..
[01:14] <Brydenn33> its what i do :)
[01:15] <Torched> how does it work?
[01:15] <|lostbyte|> Torched, sudo apt-cache search games
[01:15] <Torched> i searched for game in adept |lostbyte|
[01:15] <MotorCityMadMan> |lostbyte|: .kde/share/apps/kicker/.kde = no item, no file, no folder
[01:16] <|lostbyte|> Torched, yes, those are all the games. native to linux
[01:16] <|lostbyte|> MotorCityMadMan, /home/<username>/.kde/share/apps/kicker/
[01:16] <Torched> hey a warcraft 2 clone
[01:18] <|lostbyte|> !cedega > Torched
[01:18] <|lostbyte|> !wine > Torched
[01:18] <Torched> ohh ok, it's a wine thing
[01:18] <Torched> thanks
[01:18] <|lostbyte|> np
[01:18] <MotorCityMadMan> |lostbyte|: four folders, all empty
[01:19] <dennister> <----------can't give up when she's soooooooo close
[01:19] <|lostbyte|> MotorCityMadMan, /usr/share/apps/kicker/
[01:20] <|lostbyte|> dennister, sudo apt-get install xawtv
[01:21] <dennister> ok...bb in a bit
[01:22] <MotorCityMadMan> |lostbyte|: what i'm trying to do is clean/clear out old stored commands in run command box
[01:22] <|lostbyte|> MotorCityMadMan, open the run box, now
[01:23] <MotorCityMadMan> done
[01:23] <|lostbyte|> MotorCityMadMan, and right-click in the text field > Clear history
[01:24] <MotorCityMadMan> kick my asa. that easy
[01:24] <|lostbyte|> :P kde rocks
[01:24] <MotorCityMadMan> hear i is tearing my machine apart
[01:25] <MotorCityMadMan> parts all over the floor
[01:25] <|lostbyte|> lol
[01:25] <|lostbyte|> good night
[01:26] <MotorCityMadMan> |lostbyte|: later
[01:26] <MotorCityMadMan> have a good one and ty
[01:34] <SeanTater> will my computer survive without libsdl1.2debian-alsa?
[01:36] <gpeek> The applications that don't rely on  libsdl1.2debian-alsa will ...
[01:37] <AXL> !
[01:38] <intelikey> howto find the kernel that a system is running ?
[01:38] <Samuli^> uname -r
[01:39] <SeanTater> gpeek: okay thanks
[01:39] <intelikey> no not the version  the actual file
[01:39] <Samuli^> or uname..
[01:39] <gpeek> uname -a for all info
[01:39] <dennister> i take it lostbyte had to go?
[01:39] <BenjaminG> SeanTater, I don't have it installed and the basic kubuntu set-up works fine
[01:39] <intelikey> gpeek the file
[01:39] <gpeek> the file?
[01:40] <intelikey> yes the kernel   "vmlinuz*"
[01:40] <gpeek> umm its probably in /boot
[01:40] <dennister> ok; i think i've traced the problem back to the make
[01:40] <zorglu_> intelikey: parse /boot/grub/menu.lst and the /proc/cmdline, and the uname -r
[01:40] <intelikey> : No such file or directory
[01:41] <intelikey>  ls: /boot: No such file or directory
[01:41] <zorglu_> intelikey: but if you got several vmlinuz of the same version on the same partition with  the same boot option, it is harder :)
[01:41] <dennister> sorglu? would you know how to help me fix a make?
[01:41] <dennister> one file didn't get included...
[01:41] <zorglu_> intelikey: how come you got no /boot ?
[01:41] <dennister> sorry...Zorglu
[01:42] <zorglu_> dennister: ?
[01:42] <zorglu_> dennister: dont forget the _ !!! :)
[01:42] <intelikey> zorglu_ mmmm don't know
[01:42] <dennister> would you know how to help me fix a make? two files wouldn't be part of it
[01:42] <zorglu_> intelikey: /boot partition which isnt mounted ?
[01:43] <zorglu_> hmm even worst you got no directory called boot
[01:43] <zorglu_> ok dunno, too late :)
[01:43] <zorglu_> dennister: nope sorry too late
[01:43] <Snake[ONAIR] > Any metalheads care to tune into my show (starting in 15 mins)
[01:43] <Snake[ONAIR] > http://imagination.kicks-ass.net/ -> Tune In
[01:44] <dennister> to compare 2 files of a set, saa7127 has 9 files with different extensions in the /usr/src/ivtv.../driver directory, while msp3400 only has 2 files
[01:44] <zorglu_> damn http is so misunderstood
[01:44] <kay> hello do anyone knows a program to shutdown the pc at an special time?
[01:44] <dennister> as a result, msp3400 is causing further problems all the way down the road
[01:44] <intelikey> so is there any info that might be stored in /proc that would tell where the kernel is ?
[01:44] <zorglu_> beginer should not touch MY internet
[01:45] <zorglu_> i think this is arrogant... not sure tho :)
[01:45] <zorglu_> /proc/cmdline
[01:46] <zorglu_>  /proc/sys/kernel
[01:46] <zorglu_> but the issue here is that the file itself is in ram
[01:46] <dennister> as a result, when i run 'make', i get a warning message about a Symbol version dump...module.symvers is missing...
[01:47] <zorglu_> it is a matter of boot to read the file and put it in ram
[01:47] <zorglu_> then the kernel is started
[01:47] <Dr_willis> kay,  what 'special' time?
[01:47] <kay> any time
[01:47] <kay> i have now 2:00 pm
[01:47] <kay> and maybe 3:00 pm
[01:47] <kay> what ever
[01:47] <intelikey> cat /proc/cmdline >>> root=/dev/sda vga& BOOT_IMAGE=vmlinuz
[01:48] <zorglu_> kay, use 'at' or a kde software for that
[01:48] <Dr_willis> kay,  and thats special? :p Cron can do specific jobs at specific times
[01:48] <zorglu_> kay, and use 'shutdown' to stop the box via command line
[01:48] <kay> Dr_willis: ok thank you very much
[01:48] <zorglu_> intelikey: you got the root partition but not the kernel file
[01:49] <zorglu_> you need to get the menu.lst
[01:49] <zorglu_> and then you may got the filename
[01:49] <zorglu_> but not even garanteed
[01:49] <zorglu_> quite liktely tho
[01:49] <zorglu_> that and uname -a
[01:50] <intelikey> zorglu_ hmmm   looking
[01:50] <zorglu_> locate ?
[01:51] <intelikey> find / -name menu.lst  >>> /usr/share/doc/grub/examples/menu.lst
[01:51] <zorglu_> hehe :)
[01:51] <intelikey> i don't think that's it.
[01:51] <dennister> i guess no one can help me :-(
[01:51] <zorglu_> you got several linux on this box, correct ?
[01:52] <intelikey> mmmm one that i know of
[01:52] <intelikey> scanning disks...
[01:52] <zorglu_> well this grub didnt come out of the blue :)
[01:53] <intelikey> seems to be maybe a chroot setup also... looking.
[01:53] <intelikey> no menu.lst  but i did find the lilo.conf
[01:54] <intelikey> no mention of a kernel that matches the uname -r
[01:54] <zorglu_> ok good luck
[01:54] <zorglu_> im off to sleep
[01:55] <intelikey> k
[01:55] <LjL> intelikey: what kernel is that? what are you doing?
[01:55] <thygrrr> Heyas... I still have troubles with lwjgl apps on kubuntu linux. I'm running out of ideas, quite frankly :-(
[01:56] <intelikey> LjL ah snooping   o.o
[01:56] <intelikey> shhh
[01:56] <thygrrr> Wrong channel, even
[01:56] <LjL> uh? =)
[02:00] <danic> Hello
[02:00] <Ioh> does anyone here play world of warcraft?
[02:00] <Ioh> hi
[02:00] <CVirus> I do
[02:01] <Ioh> what distro are you using?
[02:01] <CVirus> but I guess this isnt the proper channel to discuss gaming !
[02:01] <LjL> i don't
[02:01] <LjL> !wow
[02:01] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[02:01] <CVirus> Ioh: I used to play it on Gentoo
[02:01] <Ioh> k. i'm using wine. i was woundering if anyone knew what font i need to be able to read the text?
[02:02] <CVirus> Ioh: what text ?
[02:02] <LjL> Ioh: i'm not sure what you mean, but the package "msttcorefonts" (not sure of the name, actually i'm sure it's wrong, i'll check) will give you some of the standard Microsoft fonts
[02:02] <CVirus> Ioh: read wine's page
[02:02] <Ioh> nice. thanks alot.
[02:02] <LjL> ok, the package name is actually correct
[02:02] <CVirus> Ioh: let me give you a direct link
[02:03] <intelikey> b i n g o.
[02:03] <intelikey> b i n g o.
[02:04] <intelikey> and bingo was his name o
[02:04] <Ioh> lol
[02:04] <CVirus> Ioh: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=1922
[02:04] <CVirus> Ioh: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=5606
[02:06] <Ioh> nah. i have wow working
[02:06] <Ioh> its just i dont have the correct font
[02:07] <danic> Can anyone help me with the mount command? I have some questions wich the manual is not discussing
[02:08] <CVirus> Ioh: any idea when shall they delete a character when its non registered for certian amount of time ?
[02:08] <Ioh> no. they never delete your toon. it stays frozen till you activate the account again
[02:09] <Ioh> does anyone know where i can get a download for msttcorefonts?
[02:09] <Hawkwind> Ioh: It's in the repos
[02:09] <Hawkwind> !msttcorefonts
[02:09] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[02:10] <Ioh> where do i find that font?
[02:10] <Ioh> adept?
[02:10] <CVirus> Ioh: you're using an ATI card ?
[02:10] <Ioh> yeah
[02:10] <Ioh> no problems with game wise
[02:10] <Hawkwind> Ioh: It's in multiverse.  Add the repo if you don't have it and sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[02:10] <Ioh> i just cant read anything
[02:10] <CVirus> Ioh:
[02:10] <CVirus> If you using an ATI 8500, 9550 series + you do not need to apply a patch to wine, however you will need to
[02:10] <CVirus> makesure the regedit entry as described below has been applied or you will suffer from corrupt & missing
[02:10] <CVirus> text and corrupt video.
[02:11] <Ioh> k
[02:11] <Ioh> so in terminal
[02:11] <CVirus> Ioh: you have the universe and the multiverse repos enabled ?
[02:11] <Ioh> sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts?
[02:11] <Ioh> not sure. i'm still new to linux
[02:11] <LjL> yup
[02:12] <danic> Can anyone help me with the mount command? I have some questions wich the manual is not discussing
[02:12] <LjL> danic, i might, or i might not (probably not, not too familiar with the mount command). but what are the questions?
[02:12] <CVirus> danic: just ask
[02:12] <danic> Ok :-)
[02:12] <Ioh> this what i got
[02:12] <Ioh> Reading package lists... Done
[02:12] <Ioh> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:12] <Ioh> Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:12] <Ioh> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:12] <Ioh> is only available from another source
[02:12] <Ioh> E: Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate
[02:13] <LjL> !info msttcorefonts
[02:13] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[02:13] <LjL> !tell toh about multiverse
[02:13] <LjL> !tell ioh about multiverse
[02:13] <Ioh> thanks
[02:14] <danic> I want to mount an NTFS file system (btw, I use Linux for 2 days now). And I found out, that I have to use following command: "mount -t ntfs /dev/hda2 /media/ntfs -0 ro" to create a readonly mount
[02:14] <danic> AND (and thats the part)
[02:14] <Garbaek> ubuntu rocks !! :p
[02:14] <LjL> Ioh: you need to enable Universe and Multiverse if you want to access all of the ~18000 packages that Ubuntu has. by default, Ubuntu only comes with Main enabled, because that's the only "guaranteed" repository
[02:14] <danic> for an ntfs mount i need to set umask=4 for a RO NTFS Mount
[02:15] <danic> but how exactly use umask??
[02:15] <Hawkwind> !ntfs
[02:15] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[02:15] <dan_> is there a boost package?
[02:15] <Hawkwind> danic: Might read that URL there.  It might help you a bit.  I don't use Windows so I have no need for NTFS
[02:15] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[02:15] <LjL> !info boost
[02:15] <Whiz2> How do set a folder as "hidden"?
[02:15] <ubotu> Package boost does not exist in any distro I know
[02:16] <Hawkwind> !find boost
[02:16] <ubotu> Found: libboost-dev, libboost-python-dev, libboost-python1.33.1, boost-build, libboost-date-time-dev (and 21 others)
[02:16] <Ioh> how do i enable Universe and Multiverse
[02:16] <dan_> libboost is what i want
[02:16] <dan_> thanks
[02:16] <Dr_willis> Whiz2,  really.. you dont.. or make the directory name begin with a .
[02:16] <Hawkwind> !repos > Ioh
[02:16] <danic> Hawkwind: Thank you! I will read through
[02:16] <LjL> danic, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umask i guess, if you really want to know the specifics...
[02:16] <danic> LjL: Yes, I want :D
[02:17] <exmethix_> hi together
[02:17] <exmethix_> i have a problem with opera 9.0
[02:17] <LjL> Ioh: the short answer is, uncomment *all* the lines that contain the word "universe" in your /etc/apt/source.list, and add the word "multiverse" after it.
[02:17] <exmethix_> http://www.bilder-speicher.de/Ibby850376.gratis-foto-hosting-page.html
[02:17] <exmethix_> the buttons on top
[02:17] <LjL> Ioh: but i would definitely also read the long answer if i were in you
[02:17] <exmethix_> they are displayed strange
[02:17] <exmethix_> any idea?
[02:18] <Whiz2> Dr_willis: Hmm... It's on a network share, but It's a folder that I don't want users of the linux box to be able to see, or easily access. I tried using one of the other computers to set the attribute through windows, but linux denied access for changing attributes
[02:19] <Dr_willis> You have a share.. and theres one DIRECTORY inside the share you dont want accessed?
[02:19] <Whiz2> I know there is a way, because there are Hidden folders in Linux.
[02:19] <Whiz2> Yes that is correct
[02:20] <Whiz2> no... wait... not acessed... I just want it hidden
[02:20] <Dr_willis> there are hidden folders in linux? Thats the first id ever heard of that...
[02:20] <Whiz2> least I'm pretty sure there are
[02:20] <Dr_willis> you can change the ownership and permissions of directories and perhaps restrict the access.
[02:20] <Dr_willis> but other then that..  i know of no way to block access to it.
[02:20] <Whiz2> I want to be able to access the fodler from anywhere, but I don't want others to see it if they browse the share from any computer but the one network PC that I use
[02:20] <LjL> well, if you put a period as the file character of the directory name, it becomes hidden in most programs...
[02:21] <LjL> s/file character/first character/
[02:21] <Ioh> ok i got multiverse installed
[02:21] <Dr_willis> samba has a lot of options.. you can define specific shares for specific pc's
[02:21] <Whiz2> the network share itself has 777 rights (Full rights for all)
[02:21] <LjL> Ioh: ok, issue a "sudo apt-get update" to sync with the newly added repository, and then install msttcorefonts
[02:21] <Dr_willis> check out that Using Samba book thats Online.
[02:22] <Whiz2> no... the directory is inside of a share already
[02:23] <Whiz2> a share inside of a share defeats the purpose if the original share has full access rights
[02:24] <Whiz2> nevermind. I'll figure something else out
[02:25] <Ioh> i got a break error?
[02:25] <trappist> every time I start kde, kmail starts.  I can't seem to tell it not to.  I say start with an empty session in kcontrol, there's nothing in ~/.kde/Autostart starting it.  any ideas?
[02:25] <Dr_willis> Useing the samba config tool for kde - they got some sort of hidden file options..
[02:26] <Dr_willis> but ive never used the,
[02:26] <Hobbsee> trappist: is it in /usr/share/autostart/ either?
[02:27] <trappist> Hobbsee: nope, but I hadn't looked there before.  never heard of it :)  any other guesses?
[02:27] <Hobbsee> trappist: not currently. apart from something in the sessions
[02:27] <Whiz2> trappist: is it running when you restart, or shutdown?
[02:27] <trappist> Whiz2: kontact is, but not kmail by itself
[02:28] <trappist> Whiz2: at any rate I told kde don't save my sessions, use an empty one
[02:28] <Whiz2> trappist: I would say close everything that you don't want opening before restarting/shutting down...
[02:28] <Whiz2> trappist: wait so you don't let it reopen anything you had open after restart?
[02:28] <trappist> Whiz2: tried that, just to make sure it wasn't a bug in the sessions thing, but it starts every time.
[02:29] <trappist> Whiz2: right.
[02:29] <Ioh> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[02:29] <Ioh> what does this mean
[02:29] <Ioh> ?
[02:29] <Whiz2> trappist: I had that issue not too long ago with qtPart... I uninstalled the package, andhaven't had the issue again
[02:29] <trappist> Ioh: hard to say.  try 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' on the command line and you should get a more informative error message
[02:30] <Ash-Fox> I really need prempt disabled in the kernel, is there a boot option or something?
[02:30] <trappist> Whiz2: hah yeah, that oughtta do it, but I'm not interested in uninstalling kmail
[02:30] <Whiz2> Ioh: Possibly a corrupted package
[02:30] <trappist> Ash-Fox: no, it's a compile-time kernel config option
[02:30] <Whiz2> trappist: No I would think not lol
[02:30] <Ash-Fox> trappist, any ubuntu kernels that don't have it?
[02:30] <Ioh> how can i fix it?
[02:31] <trappist> Ash-Fox: probably the server kernels, there wouldn't be any use for it on a server
[02:31] <trappist> Ioh: I told you
[02:31] <Hawkwind> trappist: Have you made sure all apps are closed when you shutdown and/or restart KDE ?
[02:31] <Ioh> it didnt work
[02:31] <trappist> Hawkwind: even though that shouldn't be necessary with my config, yes.  no go.
[02:31] <Whiz2> trappist: You might try checking the options for Kmail itself. There might be an autostart option, but I can't really say, because I've never used it
[02:31] <Ash-Fox> trappist, unfortunately I need the restricted modules for fglrx.. blah
[02:31] <Hawkwind> trappist: I had this problem on Edgy a few days ago.  Finally I closed everything, restarted KDE a couple of times and it finally worked
[02:31] <trappist> Ioh: no, but you got a better error message.  what was it?
[02:32] <trappist> Ash-Fox: I have a hard time figuring out why you'd need fglrx and a non-preempt kernel at the same time
[02:32] <trappist> Hawkwind: been doing it to me for months here
[02:32] <Ioh> break (install)
[02:32] <Ash-Fox> trappist, because preempt causes some 3d software to lock up on ati cards
[02:32] <Hawkwind> trappist: Weird.  I don't use KDE that often but when I do I never had this problem til just recently on my Edgy vmware install
[02:33] <trappist> Ash-Fox: the restricted modules stuff should be available for the server kernels as well
[02:34] <trappist> (I would think)
[02:34] <M4X1MUM> alright my torrent finally works!!!
[02:34] <Ash-Fox> trappist,
[02:34] <Ash-Fox> ash-fox@sphinx:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[02:34] <Ash-Fox> Reading package lists... Done
[02:34] <Ash-Fox> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:34] <Ash-Fox> E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-server
[02:34] <Hawkwind> Ackkk @ the pasting
[02:34] <Hawkwind> Use pastebin please
[02:34] <M4X1MUM> is apt support rpm.bin file?
[02:35] <M4X1MUM> blah i mean adept
[02:35] <aftertaf> Hobbsee: :P
[02:35] <aftertaf> M4X1MUM: better to not use rpm if you can help it
[02:35] <trappist> Ash-Fox: well I'll be.  well, there's still installing the package from ati's site, or you could grab the kernel-headers package and build the lrm package yourself
[02:35] <aftertaf> normaly no need to
[02:35] <trappist> M4X1MUM: and anyway, no
[02:36] <M4X1MUM> im trying to install java re, but i cannot find it in adept
[02:36] <M4X1MUM> and the java website provided rpm.bin and .bin
[02:36] <trappist> M4X1MUM: you need to enable the multiverse repository
[02:36] <trappist> !repos
[02:36] <Hawkwind> !java > trappist
[02:36] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:36] <Hawkwind> Ackkk
[02:36] <trappist> heh
[02:36] <Hawkwind> Dang tab completion
[02:36] <Hawkwind> !java > M4X1MUM
[02:38] <trappist> actually, I even have kmail specifically excluded from apps that *would* start due to a saved session, if I were doing that at all
[02:38] <M4X1MUM> apt = adept?
[02:38] <trappist> M4X1MUM: not quite.  adept is a graphical front-end for apt.
[02:39] <M4X1MUM> ooh
[02:40] <trappist> ok then, next problem.  this is a new one.  I said don't show icons on my desktop for unmounted smb shares, but here they are.
[02:41] <trappist> actually they didn't go away when I hit apply.  ima restart kde and see if it gets it...
[02:41] <M4X1MUM> E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-bin
[02:41] <M4X1MUM> can't i just download the .bin from java website and install it?
[02:42] <aftertaf> M4X1MUM: add universe
[02:42] <trappist> ok that worked, I guess I'll file a bug about the apply button.
[02:42] <trappist> M4X1MUM: you could, but you're much better off sticking with the package management system whenever possible, and in this case it's possible and actually easier
[02:42] <Hawkwind> !info sun-java5-bin
[02:42] <M4X1MUM> add universe?
[02:42] <ubotu> sun-java5-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 21625 kB, installed size 65608 kB
[02:42] <trappist> multiverse :)
[02:42] <Hawkwind> It's in multiverse, not universe
[02:43] <M4X1MUM> add to where?
[02:43] <aftertaf> !tell M4X1MUM about multiverse
[02:43] <trappist> !repos
[02:43] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:43] <Hawkwind> M4X1MUM: Read the info the bot is giving you in pm and here
[02:44] <axel> sup
[02:45] <trappist> and NEXT problem.  I insert a dvd.  dialog box pops up, title of "Error - KIOExec", message: /media/cdrom0 is a folder, but a file was expected.  what gives there?
[02:46] <Ioh> what does it mean when i get "break (install)" when i try to install msttcorefonts
[02:46] <Ioh> ?
[02:46] <Whiz2> trappist: I've never seen that error, so I can not help you there.
[02:47] <intelikey> what error ?
[02:47] <trappist> Whiz2: hint: it only happened after I added a handler that said open "xine dvd://dev/dvd".  before that I got what you'd expect, with the option to watch it in kaffeine, which I hate
[02:47] <trappist> intelikey: 19:45 <trappist> and NEXT problem.  I insert a dvd.  dialog box pops up, title of "Error - KIOExec", message: /media/cdrom0 is a folder, but a file was expected.  what gives there?
[02:47] <Hobbsee> aftertaf: :P
[02:47] <gabor> Yo yo yo
[02:48] <aftertaf> :) hows stuff Hobbsee ?
[02:48] <Whiz2> trappist: Did you manage to fix your kmail issue?
[02:48] <Hobbsee> aftertaf: okay, work soon
[02:48] <trappist> Whiz2: no, guess I'll have to file a bug on that one
[02:48] <M4X1MUM> http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ <-- this multiverse?
[02:48] <M4X1MUM> still cannot find it
[02:48] <Whiz2> trappist: Yup... maybe they will figure out what causes it, and add it to a future update
[02:49] <aftertaf> work? sunday? argh!
[02:49] <Whiz2> It's Saturday here
[02:49] <aftertaf> M4X1MUM: are you using adept?
[02:49] <intelikey> trappist check malone ?    seems like that might be a known issue.
[02:49] <trappist> I guess this is what happens after using linux for ~10 years.  when you have questions, nobody can answer em :)
[02:49] <aftertaf> ive got a floating point exception with evms gui and ncurses :/
[02:49] <intelikey> i remember something about a kio bug
[02:50] <M4X1MUM> yeah
[02:50] <trappist> intelikey: yeah there are lots of those iirc.  I'll look.
[02:50] <intelikey> trappist yes that too.
[02:50] <intelikey> the 10 thing
[02:50] <M4X1MUM> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/s/sun-java5/ <-- download from this website is ok?
[02:50] <trappist> M4X1MUM: yes
[02:51] <Whiz2> trappist: I'm a newbie when it comes to Linux, but I'm teaching myself how to use it by finding my own answers when no one can answer them... just recently had hard drive issues, and so had to do research on fstab, then I had network issues, so I did research on samba, and smb.conf then rewrote both files by hand to match the options I wanted. :-)
[02:51] <trappist> M4X1MUM: but you'll be a lot happier after you figure out how to turn on the extra repositories.  LOTS of nice packages.
[02:51] <trappist> Whiz2: that's the way to go
[02:52] <M4X1MUM> where do the .deb stored after adept download them? it would be nice to be able to back it up so i don't have to download them again
[02:52] <intelikey> M4X1MUM /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:52] <trappist> M4X1MUM: /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:52] <trappist> oops
[02:53] <intelikey> :)
[02:53] <M4X1MUM> ok thanks
[02:53] <trappist> intelikey: any idea what package I'd look at for those kio slave issues?
[02:53] <Whiz2> trappist: I've also researched the specifics of "sudo" and "kdesu"... I'm starting to learn the ins & outs of kubuntu on ny own... this is also just the way I learned the advanced issues for Windows (all versions)
[02:53] <M4X1MUM> this is the first time in my life i've use keyboard more than my mouse :)
[02:53] <Whiz2> trial & error is fun
[02:53] <Whiz2> lol
[02:53] <trappist> M4X1MUM: get used to it :)
[02:54] <intelikey> trappist avtually no.   context search ?
[02:54] <Whiz2> M4X1MUM: The shell/terminal reminds me of the old DOS days lol
[02:54] <trappist> when the batteries go out on my mouse, I sometimes don't realize it for days
[02:54] <M4X1MUM> now that i have Opera, that browser has keyboard shortcut for everything lol
[02:55] <intelikey> browser
[02:55] <intelikey> wget url | less
[02:55] <nik> Hey does anyone in here kno stuff about ndiswrapper?
[02:56] <M4X1MUM> once java is installed, i can install azureus muahahahaha
[02:56] <intelikey> !wifi
[02:56] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:56] <intelikey> nik ^  see if that helps
[02:56] <nik> thanks
[02:56] <nik> well
[02:56] <trappist> M4X1MUM: hey guess what.  once your universe and multiverse repos are enabled, you can apt-get install azureus :)
[02:57] <aftertaf> M4X1MUM: ok. Do you have adept open now?
[02:57] <M4X1MUM> yeah
[02:57] <Hawkwind> I'm glad I've got a wireless mouse that doesn't need the batteries replaced anymore :)
[02:57] <aftertaf> M4X1MUM: ok.... ill guide you
[02:57] <Hawkwind> Wireless and cordless
[02:57] <trappist> Hawkwind: I theoretically do, but I seem to have misplaced the rechargeable ones
[02:57] <nik> what the problem is is ndiswrapper installs(its on a vector linux laptop) and then it lets me install the driver but it doesnt recognize the card as being in, nor does it recognize any eth0/wlan0 ports
[02:57] <nik> just loopback
[02:57] <M4X1MUM> ok
[02:58] <Hawkwind> trappist: I have the MX1000 laser mouse which has the battery built-in :)
[02:58] <trappist> sweet.
[02:58] <M4X1MUM> i only have 5 repository enabled
[02:59] <trappist> ok ima write a script for adding repos.
[02:59] <intelikey> i only have three lines in my sources.list file
[02:59] <Hawkwind> trappist: Though it's funny as I constantly forget to put it on the charger at night so every now and then I look at the charge light and notice it's almost out completely
[02:59] <M4X1MUM> 3 lines!?!?!
[02:59] <Hawkwind> trappist: It's gotta be written in python :P
[02:59] <Ioh> what is a typical font used in games?
[02:59] <trappist> yeah right.
[02:59] <Hawkwind> Ioh: Probably no such thing as 'typical font used in games'
[03:00] <Ioh> lawl
[03:00] <intelikey> use php
[03:00] <Hawkwind> trappist: Let me know when you have said script done.  I'd like to post it on my http://LinuxForDummies.org/ forums
[03:00] <aftertaf> i only had 3 till i added google and amarok latest
[03:00] <trappist> Hawkwind: will do
[03:01] <aftertaf> hey weird, i cant access the repository menu in adept
[03:01] <M4X1MUM> do i need those deb-src?
[03:01] <intelikey> aftertaf google  repo ?   meeh
[03:01] <aftertaf> ok M4X1MUM you have your repository list open?
[03:01] <M4X1MUM> yeah
[03:01] <Hawkwind> M4X1MUM: not unless you plan on building things from source
[03:01] <aftertaf> ok. those lines where you have main at the end
[03:01] <M4X1MUM> ok i've disable those deb-src
[03:01] <aftertaf> M4X1MUM: you see em?
[03:02] <M4X1MUM> main restricted ?
[03:02] <aftertaf> you have a dapper main and a dapper restricted, right?
[03:02] <aftertaf> yeah ok.
[03:02] <aftertaf> add after restricted, universe multiverse
[03:03] <aftertaf> M4X1MUM: mine reads deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted multiverse universe
[03:03] <Hawkwind> But do *not* use 'edgy' in yours M4X1MUM
[03:03] <Hawkwind> Hah
[03:03] <aftertaf> stay on dapper...... but put those words on the end
[03:03] <aftertaf> hehe
[03:03] <Hawkwind> He'll be in for a treat if he does
[03:03] <intelikey> sed 's/main*/main restrected universe multiverse/g' /etc/apt/sources.list > /etc/apt/sources.list.new
[03:03] <aftertaf> looool
[03:04] <intelikey> skript'd        ^
[03:04] <Ioh> anyone know any sites to get free fonts
[03:04] <Hawkwind> Ioh: I know of one that will get you 6,760 fonts
[03:04] <Ioh> are they in a zip
[03:05] <M4X1MUM> ok done
[03:05] <Ioh> because i have alot of cut and paste if not
[03:05] <Hawkwind> Ioh: Of course
[03:05] <M4X1MUM> is dapper and dapper-update the same thing?
[03:05] <Ioh> lol
[03:05] <aftertaf> is kde 3.5.5 worth getting? or will i be stuck without a K environment that works? :P
[03:05] <Ioh> what is the site?
[03:05] <LjL> Ioh: look, if you have installed msttcorefonts, and a game in wine is showing text incorrectly, i think it is *not* due to missing fonts, but just to wine misbehaving.
[03:05] <Ioh> nah. msttcorefonts wont install
[03:05] <intelikey> M4X1MUM no
[03:05] <Ioh> it says there was an error in a d/l
[03:06] <LjL> kde 3.5.5? gee, i should have www.kde.org set on auto-refresh every 30 seconds to keep up on releases
[03:06] <aftertaf> its not released yet
[03:06] <Hawkwind> Ioh: Then you have an issue with your mirrors
[03:06] <aftertaf> at all.
[03:06] <Ioh> what do i do about that?
[03:06] <Hawkwind> Though there are 3.5.5 packages for Edgy actually
[03:06] <aftertaf> M4X1MUM: youll have one line with main, one with updates and one with security
[03:06] <Hawkwind> Ioh: Without showing us errors in http://pastebin.ulteo.us it's going to be hard for us to help you
[03:07] <intelikey> M4X1MUM dapper dapper-update and dapper-security are the three sections you "need"   and   "main restrected universe multiverse"  in each
[03:07] <LjL> ioh, if it won't install, then it means you haven't set up multiverse correctly most likely. paste the errors as Hawkwind said, and possibly also paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[03:07] <aftertaf> you understand that M4X1MUM ?
[03:07] <aftertaf> its not easy grasping all this in one go for a newbie..... most of us have been there
[03:08] <Hawkwind> LjL: Not necessarily true by what he said if you'd read what he stated
[03:08] <LjL> (and, ioh, solving the wrong problem generally leads to trouble ;)
[03:08] <M4X1MUM> ooh
[03:08] <Hawkwind> LjL: He stated:  There was a problem with the download of the file.  Therefore, he has the repos set obviously
[03:08] <M4X1MUM> hmm i have dapper-backport
[03:08] <tony_> hi guys
[03:08] <LjL> Hawkwind: well, i don't know. let us just see his sources.list and find out
[03:08] <aftertaf> M4X1MUM: thats fo exatra goodness ;)
[03:08] <intelikey> M4X1MUM some use backports some don't
[03:08] <tony_> dose anyone know if there is a way to open .chm files in linux
[03:08] <Hawkwind> LjL: How many times do we need to see it ?
[03:09] <LjL> Hawkwind: uh, if he posted it already, i didn't see it. not omnipresent, you know
[03:09] <Hawkwind> LjL: The problem is with the actual package on the mirror.  We've gotten that far already before you showed up
[03:09] <M4X1MUM> so i should set "main restricted universe multiverse" to all distribution?
[03:09] <aftertaf> M4X1MUM: to those 3 lines, yes
[03:10] <intelikey> M4X1MUM yes
[03:10] <intelikey> be sure and update when finished.
[03:11] <LjL> Hawkwind: ok, still i'm not sure how downloading random fonts from a random site and installing them manually will likely help, honestly.
[03:11] <M4X1MUM> ooh crap 43 updatable package
[03:12] <M4X1MUM> what a pain
[03:12] <aftertaf> M4X1MUM: nah.
[03:12] <aftertaf> its good
[03:12] <Hawkwind> LjL: If you notice, I've been helping him get msttcorefonts installed from the beginning since he asked.  I've yet to give him the URL for what he asked for
[03:12] <aftertaf> plus, youll have a lot ore available now
[03:12] <intelikey> i may try my hand at installing the nvidia driver just so i can see if it's easy or hard...
[03:12] <aftertaf> +m
[03:12] <Hawkwind> LjL: I'd appreciate it if you allow me to finish helping him instead of stating stuff that isn't true or hasn't been done
[03:13] <LjL> Hawkwind: alright, go on please.
[03:13] <aftertaf> cmh files? tried apt-cache search chm?
[03:13] <intelikey> M4X1MUM that's why you need security and updates enabled.    bug fixes and security patches   (if you care about security)   is a good thing         until it hoses your system anyway....
[03:13] <Hawkwind> Bahhh, now he's gone from the network again.  I had him in PM
[03:13] <aftertaf> tony_: ^^
[03:14] <M4X1MUM> damn linux kernel so huge
[03:14] <tony_> sorry.. i kinda got into x  and was trying to get back to kdm. heheh
[03:14] <tony_> aftertaf: didn't try that yet. but i will try it now
[03:14] <aftertaf> tony_: xchm - Compiled HTML Help (CHM) file viewer for X
[03:14] <aftertaf> :)
[03:14] <intelikey> M4X1MUM not using propritary vidio drivers are you ?
[03:14] <LjL> Hawkwind: you owe me a virtual pint of beer if it turns out that his sources.list was wrong, anyway!
[03:14] <aftertaf> M4X1MUM: XP takes up 2 giga :)
[03:15] <Hawkwind> LjL: I've seen his sources.list, 3 times
[03:15] <tony_> cool thanks . i have a linux book that is in chm and is better to read it in linux then in window
[03:15] <aftertaf> yeah ;)
[03:15] <M4X1MUM> aaah actually i haven't install nvidia dirver yet, i forgot. I got to install automatix first
[03:16] <M4X1MUM> i tried using adept to install but i dont think its working
[03:16] <aftertaf> automatix? takes the fun out of doing it yourself
[03:16] <M4X1MUM> the screen saver still lags
[03:17] <aftertaf> M4X1MUM: use console?
[03:17] <aftertaf> with nvidia you need to modify things by hand iirc
[03:17] <Brydenn33> GOD I LOVE KUBUNTU haha
[03:17] <aftertaf> !nvidia
[03:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:17] <M4X1MUM> really?
[03:17] <intelikey> doing it your self takes the fun out of doing it your self....
[03:17] <aftertaf> Brydenn33: yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:17] <Brydenn33> i just got XMMS to play Monkeys Audio files
[03:17] <Brydenn33> that's sooooooooooo sweet!!!
[03:18] <aftertaf> intelikey: very deep, in a recursive sort of deep, in a recursive sort of deep, in a recursive sort of deep, in a recursive sort of deep, way
[03:19] <intelikey> :)
[03:19] <aftertaf> hehe
[03:19] <now3d> Hello, Could someone tell me how I can disable the X Login manager please? I would like to go straight to a terminal login on this box
[03:19] <M4X1MUM> XMMS an mp3 player?
[03:20] <LjL> yeah
[03:20] <Brydenn33> yah it is
[03:20] <tony_> i installed xchm. do i have to reboot the system for the application to show up or can i just log of the session and relog back in
[03:20] <M4X1MUM> so it support .ape and .flac?
[03:20] <LjL> now3d: "disabling" it, i'd avoid... but from KControl, you can set things up so that you aren't asked for a password, i think
[03:20] <intelikey> some people are so deep, they're stuck.
[03:20] <intelikey> yeah
[03:20] <Brydenn33> no it doesnt support .ape by default
[03:20] <Brydenn33> i had to install a plugin and the .ape codec
[03:21] <Brydenn33> its not too tricky now that i have the right repositories
[03:21] <now3d> LjL: ah... i really need to go straight to a terminal
[03:21] <aftertaf> tony_: restart kde, or type it in a console
[03:21] <LjL> now3d: ah, so you don't want X at all?
[03:21] <intelikey> now3d  man update-rc.d     the service is  kdm
[03:21] <aftertaf> can i resize my /home partiton without unmounting it?
[03:21] <tony_> ok .
[03:21] <LjL> now3d: sorry, missed that. yeah, just disable kdm
[03:21] <Brydenn33> M4X1MUM: you interested in getting XMMS to play .ape files?
[03:22] <now3d> LjL: I want X, but i want to start it using "startx" when i need it..
[03:22] <LjL> now3d: that should still be possible, after you've disabled kdm... even though honestly i haven't tried running "startx" in Ubuntu since a long time
[03:22] <M4X1MUM> not now, im still trying to install nvidia lol, setting up the system one by one
[03:22] <aftertaf> now3d: or hit alt-F1 on boot
[03:22] <aftertaf> M4X1MUM: yeah!!!!!
[03:22] <Brydenn33> M4X1MUM: hehe yah i had a bit of trouble installing my invidia card
[03:22] <Brydenn33> but i got it working
[03:22] <intelikey> now3d  disable kdm   use sudo update-rc.d -d kdm 2     iirc  but use the man page to make sure.
[03:23] <Hitmanx> how do can i add the current directory to my path so i dont have to type ./ to execute?
[03:23] <now3d> aftertaf: Is X still running then tho?
[03:23] <trappist> Hawkwind: this is getting fun, and I've decided to make it a gui
[03:23] <LjL> Hitmanx: you could do that, but that's usually adviced against for various reasons.
[03:23] <Hawkwind> trappist: Very kewl indeed.  You should get it into the distro somehow if possible
[03:23] <LjL> Hitmanx: anyway, "export PATH=$PATH:." should do the trick
[03:23] <aftertaf> now3d: yeah. but if you type /etc/init.d/kdm stop it stops for good
[03:23] <Hitmanx> cheers
[03:23] <Hitmanx> will that add it everytime i reboot tho?
[03:24] <aftertaf> best is to disable kdm like said above
[03:24] <LjL> Hitmanx: no. you'd need to add it to your .bashrc for that
[03:24] <trappist> Hawkwind: hah, first let's see if a) I can do it and b) it doesn't suck
[03:24] <Hitmanx> ah thats what im looking for, where can i find it?
[03:24] <LjL> Hitmanx: in your home directory
[03:24] <flaccid> i dont get why you install stuff with apt-get then you remove it but it doesn't remove all the files
[03:25] <aftertaf> flaccid: --purge
[03:25] <LjL> flaccid: well, it doesn't remove configuration files, because you might want to re-install the same program at a later stage, without losing the previous configuration
[03:25] <flaccid> oh
[03:25] <trappist> flaccid: it likes to keep configuration files, so if you decide to reinstall you haven't lost everything.  but as aftertaf said, apt-get remove --purge will kill it pretty dead.
[03:25] <flaccid> its just that games are still there
[03:25] <aftertaf> rumour is that apt is based on symantec, thatll be why :)
[03:25] <Hitmanx> LjL: can i add export PATH=$PATH:. at the end of that file?
[03:25] <flaccid> from gnome
[03:25] <LjL> Hitmanx: not sure the end of the file is the right place, let me look
[03:25] <intelikey> Hitmanx echo "export PATH=\"\$PATH:./\"" >> ~/.profile
[03:25] <trappist> flaccid: what did you uninstall
[03:26] <aftertaf> intelikey: a real script sharpshoota
[03:26] <MotorCityMadMan> hello: does kubuntu have a Geography traceroute program ?
[03:26] <trappist> intelikey: ack!  that's terrible!
[03:26] <LjL> Hitmanx: yeah... should work. i guess intelikey's suggestion is more elegant though
[03:26] <trappist> nononononono
[03:26] <flaccid> ubuntu-desktop
[03:26] <Dr_willis> MotorCityMadMan,  i saw on in the repos last night while browseing them
[03:26] <aftertaf> MotorCityMadMan: xt - A graphical traceroute
[03:26] <trappist> the reason that's not done by default is that it's a big security problem
[03:27] <flaccid> well better
[03:27] <aftertaf> apt-cache search  is better than google :)
[03:27] <M4X1MUM> when i try to do this sudo nvidia-glx-config enable, i got Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[03:27] <Hitmanx> cheers guys
[03:27] <intelikey> trappist that's what he asked for.
[03:27] <trappist> flaccid: ubuntu-desktop is only a metapackage.  its only purpose is to depend on other packages.  removing it won't remove much of anything.
[03:27] <LjL> trappist: i had already told him that. then it's his decision...
[03:27] <flaccid> oops better question. how can i get a list of packages that are removed but not purged?
[03:27] <trappist> intelikey: it's bad.
[03:27] <aftertaf> M4X1MUM: check the driver is nvidia and not nv in your Xorg.conf
[03:27] <aftertaf> flaccid: synaptic does that.....
[03:28] <flaccid> trappist: ah right. so its good to install but uninstall hmm thats not good
[03:28] <flaccid> cool i'll try
[03:28] <trappist> flaccid: --purge wouldn't have helped you here.  it won't do you any good.  use debfoster to remove packages that were installed with ubuntu-desktop.
[03:28] <intelikey> trappist splain
[03:28] <M4X1MUM> where is that file located?
[03:28] <now3d> thanks guys, night
[03:28] <LjL> M4X1MUM: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:29] <flaccid> you know i've always heard synaptic mentioned
[03:29] <flaccid> first time i've used it now lol
[03:29] <LjL> that's not good...
[03:29] <LjL> !packages
[03:29] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[03:29] <aftertaf> M4X1MUM: you can open it in a console with write privileges via sudo kate
[03:29] <Whiz2> synaptic? what's that?
[03:30] <LjL> !synaptic > Whiz2
[03:30] <LjL> Whiz2: same thing as Adept in KDE
[03:30] <Whiz2> oh ok basically add/remove programs for linux
[03:30] <tony_> is virtual consol same thing as those buttons labled 1 through 4 on my panel ???
[03:30] <trappist> intelikey: by default, the shell searches your $PATH, all of which should be writable only as root.  the reason is so I can't plop something nefarious into your PATH and have you execute it without even knowing it.
[03:31] <LjL> Whiz2: yeah, except that, contrary to Windows, you actually use it to *add* programs, and not just to remove them
[03:31] <M4X1MUM> Section "Device"  driver "nv" <-- change this?
[03:31] <LjL> Whiz2: or, alternatively, you can avoid using it, and install stuff by hand, and break the system ;)
[03:31] <aftertaf> M4X1MUM: yep, to nvidia
[03:31] <Ioh> BUHAHAHAHA I GOT THE FONT!!!!!!
[03:31] <aftertaf> loooll
[03:31] <flaccid> so you can like install ubuntu-desktop then remove desired gnome packages
[03:31] <Ioh> oh well. i'm off to gay it up
[03:31] <Whiz2> tony_: those numbers labeled 1-4 on your panel are virtual desktops, not consoles. i dunno what virtual consoles are
[03:31] <Ioh> i mean wow it up
[03:31] <flaccid> after removing ubuntu-desktop
[03:31] <M4X1MUM> boardname "nv" <-- how about this one?
[03:32] <LjL> Ioh: what was the problem?
[03:32] <trappist> flaccid: in edgy it'll be different.  you will be able to say 'sudo apt-get autoremove' (I think that's what it is) and it'll clean out stuff that's only installed because it was depended on by something you've since removed.
[03:32] <aftertaf> tony_: vconsoles are consoles opened in X i think
[03:32] <aftertaf> M4X1MUM: no leave the others
[03:32] <flaccid> thats pretty cool
[03:32] <LjL> trappist: yes, that's it
[03:32] <Ioh> i didnt haev the right font in the wine, font file
[03:32] <intelikey> trappist that's the reason for it being at the end and not the beginning.
[03:32] <tony_> i see, because im reading the book and tells me how to activate v consol , but nothing happening
[03:32] <aftertaf> M4X1MUM: just driver!!!
[03:32] <M4X1MUM> ok
[03:32] <aftertaf> tony_: used screen yet?
[03:32] <Ioh> i had to d/l alot before i found the right one
[03:32] <aftertaf> !screen
[03:32] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[03:33] <tony_> it say HOLD left ALT and click on funcation key from F1 Trough F8 to activaate vconsole
[03:33] <aftertaf> tony_: means drop to console?
[03:33] <LjL> tony_: hold alt *and* ctrl, if you're inside X
[03:33] <LjL> tony_: then ctrl+alt+f7 to go back to X
[03:33] <aftertaf> ie when youre not in X. or^^ if you are
[03:33] <trappist> intelikey: yeah, that's definitely way better than at the beginning, but it's still rather nasty.  for example I might take advantage of a common type, and put a file called "suod" in your home dir, which will capture your password for later use then send it on to sudo, without you ever knowing.
[03:34] <intelikey> trappist PATH=./:$PATH  == bad    PATH=$PATH:./ = user option.   and he asked.  so i told him how.   path always takes the first match doesn't it.
[03:34] <tony_> i did that , hard time to comming back out of x
[03:34] <trappist> intelikey: s/type/typo/
[03:34] <M4X1MUM> still give me error :(
[03:34] <aftertaf> lol you did a typo on typo
[03:34] <tony_> console i mean . in the book it reffers to having multible v console , so you can switch back and forth between them
[03:34] <LjL> trappist: although, honestly, if you already have access to my home dir, i think i'd have bigger worries to worry about than that...
[03:34] <aftertaf> M4X1MUM: you need to restartr x
[03:35] <aftertaf> tony_: because you can do just that
[03:35] <LjL> tony_: yes. type ctrl+alt+F1 to go to the first virtual console, then ctrl+alt+F2 for the second, etc, and ctrl+alt+F7 to go back to X
[03:35] <intelikey> hehhe or sduo
[03:35] <tony_> ahhhhh. now i get it LjL :)
[03:35] <tony_> thanks
[03:35] <trappist> LjL: no, a major reason linux tends to be so much more secure is that the damage is limited if a user account is compromised.  but if you have sudo, and I can write to your home dir, and I can get you to run arbitrary scripts... then it gets nasty.
[03:35] <tony_> this damn books can be more clear
[03:36] <flaccid> heh synaptic rox
[03:36] <LjL> tony_: Alt alone, without Ctrl, works when you'are *already* outside X (i.e. already in a virtual console). from inside X, you need to use Ctrl+Alt
[03:36] <flaccid> !synaptic > flaccid
[03:36] <M4X1MUM> restart the pc?
[03:36] <intelikey> but i don't use root jr.  so it would be a long wait   :)
[03:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace restarts X
[03:37] <trappist> unless you're running xgl, for some reason
[03:37] <trappist> then it's shift-backspace
[03:37] <trappist> which really sucks.
[03:37] <Samuli^> you're free to change it to whatever you want.
[03:37] <trappist> given its proximity to the pipe key on decent keyboards
[03:37] <LjL> trappist: well, not really a major worry in single-user desktop systems, since the sensitive stuff is actually the stuff that's in your home. and at any rate... if i am a sudoer, and you gain access to my account, i consider myself rooted, no matter wether you have yet managed to get around the sudo password... though that's just me
[03:38] <trappist> LjL: if you're a sudoer and I gain access to your account, you're still relatively ok unless I know your password.
[03:38] <M4X1MUM> ok
[03:38] <aftertaf> he gone....
[03:38] <trappist> LjL: it's all pretty relative.  your data can't be trusted anymore, but you don't have to reinstall the whole system.  you don't have to worry that 'ls' has been pwned.
[03:39] <m4x1mum> oh crap what the hell, it restart immediately i thought there will be some yes or no message box thing
[03:39] <trappist> hehe
[03:39] <aftertaf> m4x1mum: hehe
[03:40] <aftertaf> and did it work?
[03:40] <LjL> trappist: alright, and indeed, i definitely *don't* have "." set in my $PATH. and when the guy asked, the first thing i said is that it's considered bad. but then, if one really wants to do it, i just tell them how... 1) it's their system 2) on a desktop system, it doesn't really make that much of a difference
[03:40] <aftertaf> m4x1mum: open a console and type glxgears
[03:41] <m4x1mum> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable still give me error, but glxgears works
[03:41] <aftertaf> m4x1mum: should be cool then.
[03:41] <trappist> LjL: I won't preach it to you guys, and I hope I didn't come across that way, but the way I see it insecure systems end up as spambots and other nasties that make *my* life harder, and I won't tell somebody to do something that will compromise their security unnecessarily
[03:41] <aftertaf> m4x1mum: did you get the nvidia splash screen?
[03:41] <LjL> trappist: i mean, really, if that's a security concern on a typical desktop Ubuntu, then what about the "sudo make install"s that people are doing all the time -- from untrusted sites? ;)
[03:41] <trappist> LjL: that is, won't tell them *how* to
[03:42] <m4x1mum> no
[03:42] <LjL> trappist: that's a valid stance.
[03:42] <m4x1mum> but at least the screen saver is smooth now, no lagginess
[03:42] <aftertaf> yeah good then
[03:43] <m4x1mum> ok next stop, making those video file work!!
[03:43] <intelikey> hmmm four more hours worth of kernel dl (an older version than apt-get update installs) just to see if i can install nvidia-glx    why do i have to down grade the kernel to do this?  is that an oversight in the package management ?
[03:44] <trappist> !restricted > m4x1mum
[03:44] <trappist> intelikey: do you maybe need to apt-get update?
[03:44] <m4x1mum> say can i move /media/sdb1 to /media/some_meaningful_name?
[03:44] <Dr_willis> huh..   ive nerver had that issue
[03:45] <linuxkid2> I've had a huge meltdown. I accidently copied a floppy image to hda1 instead of fd0. I was on a liveCD at the time, and my root partition is wiped. HELP!
[03:45] <trappist> intelikey: it's been a really long time since I had an issue with out-of-sync kernel/lrm
[03:45] <Dr_willis> ick
[03:45] <trappist> linuxkid2: there's really no coming back from that without a reinstall.
[03:45] <intelikey> trappist no
[03:45] <Dr_willis> m4x1mum,  yes edit fstab is 1 way
[03:45] <intelikey> trappist nvidia-glx depends on 2.6.23  2.6.26 is running
[03:46] <linuxkid2> really? please say there's some way to fix it.
[03:46] <trappist> intelikey: where the hell did you get those!  I'm on edgy and I got 2.6.17
[03:46] <trappist> and, I'm pretty sure those kernel versions don't exist
[03:46] <intelikey> trappist dapper
[03:46] <aftertaf> hey i have a qu about xorg and nvidia
[03:46] <trappist> intelikey: do you mean 2.6.15-23 and 2.6.15-26?
[03:46] <m4x1mum> how do i edit fstab?
[03:46] <intelikey> oh yeah  2.6.15-23
[03:46] <trappist> haha
[03:47] <intelikey> yes
[03:47] <intelikey> reading in console and typing in x     brain fart.
[03:47] <aftertaf> i have Options   "RenderAccel"    "true" and "NvAgp" "1" both comentted out, what are they for?
[03:48] <aftertaf> m4x1mum: with kate, sudo kate to modify
[03:48] <jtholmes> m4x1mum: from  the command line use vim
[03:48] <aftertaf> vim for noobs is rough
[03:48] <Dr_willis> sudo EDITORYOULIKE  /etc/fstab
[03:48] <trappist> intelikey: I see the -26 lrm packages on packages.ubuntu.com.  maybe your mirror gave up on getting updates or something?
[03:48] <jtholmes> aftertaf: yes but it is so rewarding
[03:48] <linuxkid2> c'mon, there has to be a way.
[03:48] <trappist> Dr_willis: or, sudoedit /etc/fstab
[03:49] <intelikey> trappist -26 lrm   ?      for the nvidia-glx ?
[03:49] <LjL> !info testdisk
[03:49] <trappist> intelikey: for the nvidia kernel modules
[03:49] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.1-1 (dapper), package size 386 kB, installed size 1124 kB
[03:49] <aftertaf> jtholmes: i agree!
[03:49] <linuxkid2> no goof, can't boot Kubuntu
[03:49] <trappist> intelikey: presumably it also has the nvidia-glx package that depends on that stuff.  no way that would go unnoticed across 3 kernel releases.
[03:49] <linuxkid2> good
[03:49] <LjL> linuxkid2: then use a live cd
[03:50] <aftertaf> anyone know for xorg options?
[03:50] <intelikey> trappist hmmm wonder why it's only finding nvidia-glx that depends on the -23 kernel ?
[03:50] <linuxkid2> all that got wiped was the first like 1.4 MB, by dd/ that can't be un-undoable.
[03:50] <m4x1mum>   /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 ntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,uid=0,gid=46,auto,rw,nouser 0 1  <--which sdb1 do i change? both
[03:51] <trappist> intelikey: maybe try a new mirror and/or apt-get clean
[03:51] <linuxkid2> I'm fine with reinstalling, but i've got data on that disk.
[03:51] <aftertaf> m4x1mum: the second one
[03:51] <m4x1mum> ok
[03:51] <intelikey> apt-get clean  0.0  not on your life.   this is dialup.
[03:52] <aftertaf> m4x1mum: BUT.... make sure you create the folder in the /media folder or you wont mount it
[03:52] <trappist> m4x1mum: /dev/sdb1 is the device.  /media/sdb1 is where it gets mounted.
[03:52] <LjL> linuxkid2: that's what i'm saying -- testdisk should be the program you need to recover those data
[03:52] <m4x1mum> ok
[03:52] <LjL> linuxkid2: just boot from a live cd, install it, and cross your fingers
[03:53] <tony_> how can i find different chanals using konversation ??? i only get connected to kubuntu
[03:53] <linuxkid2> ok, but how do I get it? Is it abailable in Knoppix?
[03:53] <aftertaf> tony_: type /j #channelname
[03:53] <LjL> tony_: "/join #channelname" to join. the command "/list" will show all available channels, but it will most likely result in you being disconnected for excess flood
[03:53] <intelikey> tony_  /list   but don't do it.   you'll never see the end of the scroll
[03:53] <m4x1mum> yay it works
[03:53] <LjL> linuxkid2: i don't know -- it's most definitely available in ubuntu. don't you have the ubuntu desktop cd?
[03:54] <tony_> oops
[03:54] <aftertaf> m4x1mum: w2twwol
[03:54] <tony_> tooo late , did it already
[03:54] <m4x1mum> now i have to make it writable and change the owner ohhhh dannnngggg
[03:54] <aftertaf> lol
[03:54] <linuxkid2> yes, but i'd rather use knoppix on a live-cd thing
[03:54] <tony_> so whats the best way of finding chanalls
[03:54] <m4x1mum> oh wait, kubuntu can write to NTFS right?
[03:55] <linuxkid2> do you mean that if I install kubuntu overr the wiped partition it can still recover from the formatted disk?
[03:55] <aftertaf> linuxmaybe try theultimate boot cd
[03:55] <LjL> linuxkid2: well, that's your choice. i'm not familiar with knoppix. i'm not sure what you would lose by using the ubuntu cd, though
[03:55] <aftertaf> it has tools to recover loads of things
[03:55] <LjL> linuxkid2: no, i'm not saying you should install *anything* on your HD
[03:55] <LjL> linuxkid2: i'm just saying you should boot from the Ubuntu Live CD, install testdisk, and run it over the damaged partition
[03:55] <linuxkid2> how do I install stuff on a livecd?
[03:56] <LjL> linuxkid2: with apt-get, just like you'd do on a normal installation.,
[03:56] <linuxkid2> really?
[03:56] <LjL> really.
[03:56] <aftertaf> tony_: /j # and the name of what you want to join.... it either exists or it soesnt
[03:56] <linuxkid2> oh, ok, thanks.
[03:56] <Dr_willis> Reeeeeeeeeeely?
[03:56] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:56] <linuxkid2> exit
[03:56] <LjL> linuxkid2: well, at least if you're not going to install the whole of Universe. it all gets loaded into a RAM disk, so...
[03:56] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:56] <LjL> blah
[03:57] <m4x1mum> kubuntu can write to NTFS right?
[03:57] <LjL> yes and no. yes, you can. no, you shouldn't ;)
[03:57] <LjL> anyway, off to bed
[03:57] <aftertaf> m4x1mum: f
[03:57] <aftertaf> m4x1mum: reformat to fat or ext3
[03:57] <intelikey> tony_  /join #blah     either you join a channel or make one and then chanserv comes and kicks you out of it...   lol
[03:57] <aftertaf> win can read ext3 too :)
[03:58] <m4x1mum> aaawwww i have to transfer 100+Gb data just to change the format :(
[03:58] <tony_> lol
[03:58] <tony_> im getting used to getting kicked out ..
[03:58] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[03:58] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (dapper), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[03:58] <aftertaf> m4x1mum: biiig usb disk you have there
[03:58] <method|> m4x1mum: what i do is make a fat32 partition that windows and linux can read and write too
[03:59] <method|> helps alot
[03:59] <tony_> method|: thats what i did too
[03:59] <aftertaf> method|: ditched fat for ext3, no 4gb limit
[03:59] <m4x1mum> but i have files over 4Gb
[03:59] <tony_> this way i can pass files between the two
[03:59] <aftertaf> hehehehehehehehe
[03:59] <method|> i dont mess with the experimental methods of windows reading and writing to ext or reiser or linux writing to ntfs
[03:59] <intelikey> tony_ 'xchat' used to have a channel search with filtering options  pretty handy for bigger servers
[03:59] <aftertaf> ext2fs for zindope
[03:59] <method|> m4x1mum: yeah that's always my problem too
[03:59] <method|> dvds and such?
[03:59] <m4x1mum> yeah
[04:00] <m4x1mum> backup mostly
[04:00] <intelikey> like filter out all channels with less than 300 ppl
[04:00] <aftertaf> go ext3, and install ext2fs for windows, it the best compromise
[04:00] <m4x1mum> damn, ok i better start transferring the files first :(
[04:01] <m4x1mum> 2000+ files in there i have to transfer
[04:01] <tony_> yes is true. i think i should use xchat rather knonversation
[04:01] <m4x1mum> xchat is better than konverstion?
[04:02] <intelikey> knonversation    :)
[04:02] <trappist> m4x1mum: it's a matter of preference.  I would say no.
[04:02] <tony_> lol
[04:02] <tony_> ok ok ,
[04:02] <intelikey> epic is irc dinctom
[04:02] <m4x1mum> konversation couldnt make the channel list to display on the right :(, i use mirc all the time
[04:02] <tony_> typo. im just way too tired.
[04:02] <tony_> :P
[04:03] <Dr_willis> sirc :)
[04:03] <Hawkwind> m4x1mum: It's personal preference.  Some like it, some don't.  It's all I use, though I do have irssi(cli client) running from my server to log channels for channel stat pages
[04:03] <trappist> I use irssi.  it's the best irc client on earth.  that's a fact.
[04:03] <intelikey> tony_ i liked it.    me makes note of    "knonversation"
[04:03] <Hawkwind> trappist: Bahhh!
[04:03] <tony_> lol
[04:03] <m4x1mum> lol
[04:03] <tony_> i have all the copyright to that word
[04:03] <tony_> :P
[04:03] <trappist> but seriously.  irssi + screen + bitlbee = chat nirvana
[04:04] <luke-jr_> What's the wifi config app included with Kubuntu 6.06?
[04:04] <trappist> luke-jr_: kwifimanager
[04:04] <m4x1mum> how to disable the bluetooth service? i dont even need them
[04:04] <luke-jr_> trappist: no, kwifimanager is different
[04:04] <luke-jr_> the program I mean has a list of APs and such
[04:04] <luke-jr_> and a wizard to connect to em
[04:05] <intelikey> m4x1mum man update-rc.d
[04:05] <InteliWasp> anyone know how to chace down a usb problem?
[04:05] <Dr_willis> COntrol Center -> system admin -> system Services
[04:05] <m4x1mum> i dont even know the bluetooth service name
[04:05] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:05] <Dr_willis> it has blue in the name i bet
[04:06] <trappist> InteliWasp: try this "I'm having <this usb problem>.  I've done <these troubleshooting steps> but <this> still happens when I do <that>.  what should I look at next?"
[04:06] <Dr_willis> bluez i think
[04:06] <Hawkwind> kdebluetooth
[04:06] <Hawkwind> There is also bluez-utils
[04:06] <m4x1mum> bluez-utils? safe to disable?
[04:06] <intelikey> m4x1mum yes
[04:07] <trappist> m4x1mum: yes.  sudo update-rc.d -f bluez-utils remove (I think)
[04:08] <InteliWasp> i am not sure where to start but when my ipod is pluged in a USB port, it randomly unmounts and pops up the "what do you want to do with this device?" screen and yes interupting data transfers...
[04:08] <Dr_willis> Optimus OLED Keyboard Linux Driver is a driver for the Art Lebedev Studio's Optimus keyboard.
[04:08] <Dr_willis> I want one. :P
[04:08] <trappist> InteliWasp: that sounds like a hardware problem.  when it does that, check the output of dmesg and see if you can spot an event just before it umounts.
[04:09] <InteliWasp> i want the keyboard more than the 3 button thingy
[04:09] <InteliWasp> trappist: ok i'll try that
[04:09] <m4x1mum> transferring the first 30Gb first :(
[04:09] <tony_> am i right to assume KDE is writen using Qt ??
[04:09] <tony_> c++
[04:09] <trappist> InteliWasp: also, consider trying a different usb port.  sounds like something may be loose.
[04:09] <tony_> ?
[04:09] <trappist> tony_: yes
[04:10] <tony_> thanks..
[04:10] <m4x1mum> gah 10 minute to transfer
[04:10] <tony_> im trying to learn c++ and im getting Qt.. , BUT need to learn linux inside and out first
[04:10] <tony_> so iguess 10 years from now i can write HELLO WORLD
[04:10] <m4x1mum> i never use Qt before... i like GTK
[04:10] <Dr_willis> tony_,  it helps :)
[04:11] <linuxkid2> what was that program again?
[04:11] <trappist> tony_: maybe try some other language with qt bindings.  python or ruby, for instance.  you can have a hello world in no time.  less than no time if you use kdevelop :)
[04:11] <tony_> i like qt based on what read, it has good support for gui tools and lots of classes
[04:11] <InteliWasp> has KDE4 been tested with the K7 kernel yet?
[04:11] <tony_> :) blushing.. i aint that smart , will still take me time
[04:11] <m4x1mum> i tried wxwidget a bit as well, i find it pretty good too
[04:11] <Blacken> I heart KDE, but I heart GTK more for development.
[04:11] <intelikey> perl seems convoluted to me
[04:12] <trappist> InteliWasp: the specific kernel optimizations should have no impact on how any version of kde works
[04:12] <tony_> GTK , where can i get more info on that
[04:12] <Blacken> tony_: Google?
[04:12] <tony_> lol
[04:12] <tony_> yehh, will gooole around
[04:12] <m4x1mum> gtk is C not C++
[04:12] <trappist> intelikey: perl is nice.  or so I thought until I found ruby.
[04:12] <tony_> thanks :(
[04:12] <tony_> but i guess c++ nore native to linux . right ?
[04:13] <trappist> tony_: no
[04:13] <Blacken> GTK may be C, but you can wrap it fine.
[04:13] <linuxkid2> not really
[04:13] <m4x1mum> there is a wrapper for gtk
[04:13] <trappist> tony_: there's no such concept as one language being more or less 'native' to linux than any other.  linux itself is written in C.
[04:13] <linuxkid2> C is originally for Unix, as is C++
[04:13] <intelikey> tony_ also you can google with linux specific searches   google.com/linux
[04:14] <tony_> interest in qt is due to the fact that i can port my work for different platform
[04:14] <m4x1mum> gtk is also a platform independent
[04:14] <tony_> thank intelikey didn't know that trick
[04:14] <linuxkid2> GTK works sort of on windows,
[04:14] <linuxkid2> but looks alien
[04:14] <trappist> tony_: that's true of gtk as well.  not to mention other toolkits.  wxwindows for instance.
[04:14] <Tm_T> linuxkid2: Qt works too
[04:14] <linuxkid2> I know QT works
[04:14] <m4x1mum> wxwidget works best for windows
[04:14] <intelikey> linux is the kernel   all the gnu stuff that most people call "linux"   is a hinz 57 kerr
[04:15] <m4x1mum> but wxwidget in linux...they are using gtk underneath lol
[04:15] <Blacken> GTK doesn't look bad in Windows if you theme it right.
[04:15] <Blacken> Wimp-theme is okay.
[04:15] <linuxkid2> I know that linux is only one program in the system, but the name stuck. GNU?Linux is an awkward name.
[04:15] <tony_> ohh god, themes. no talent in design <<<<<<<
[04:16] <tony_> still trying to figure how to make a template for my zen cart :|
[04:16] <Tm_T> that reminds me, should (try) compile kopete in windows someday soon
[04:16] <intelikey> code from every where and in every language  as well as plain venella bash scripts
[04:16] <Blacken> GNU/Linux is a ridiculous idea, and whoever supports it had better be ready to call it GNU/KDE/X/Linux.
[04:16] <suresh> can someone help me with a problem gpg error...pubkey not found.
[04:16] <trappist> suresh: have you made a public/private key pair?
[04:16] <linuxkid2> Let's do that from the highest level to the lowest: KDE/QT/X11/GNU/Linux
[04:17] <trappist> guys, politican stuff in #kubuntu-offtopic please.  this is a support channel.
[04:17] <suresh> no i am fairly new to this...
[04:17] <trappist> *political
[04:17] <linuxkid2> sorry
[04:17] <suresh> how do i do it.
[04:17] <tony_> sorry , my fault for starting this
[04:17] <intelikey> Blacken but what if i don't have kde or xorg  just gnu/linux   :)
[04:17] <tony_> <<<blushing >>>
[04:17] <trappist> suresh: gpg --gen-key
[04:17] <m4x1mum> there is gnome :)
[04:18] <suresh> trappist i type that on the terminal?
[04:18] <trappist> suresh: yes
[04:18] <suresh> ok
[04:18] <linuxkid2> intelikey: that's GNU/Linux. my debian server is like that.
[04:18] <m4x1mum> 3minute more to go!!
[04:18] <tony_> i realy do like KDE . and the idea that i can use Theme . if i ever find on that i like .
[04:18] <intelikey> m4x1mum or twm or xfce or blackbox or fluxbox or ////
[04:18] <linuxkid2> I read the testdisk man page. How do I use it?
[04:18] <trappist> suresh: I recommend using a really secure passphrase.  your gpg private key, if you use it as intended, is probably the single most sensitive item on your machine.
[04:19] <m4x1mum> lol
[04:19] <m4x1mum> i've heard of blackbox... thats the lightweight ones isn't it?
[04:19] <trappist> m4x1mum: one of em, yes
[04:19] <Blacken> m4x1mum: It's good. Fluxbox is based on it and my personal lightweight preference.
[04:19] <FaLc[ON] 2> hi all
[04:20] <trappist> +1 Blacken
[04:20] <linuxkid2> blackbox is lightweight. Fluxbox is an enhanced blackbox, and hackerbox is stripped down.
[04:20] <FaLc[ON] 2> somebody can help me?? i've a little probem
[04:20] <suresh> Trappist:
[04:20] <suresh> (1) DSA and Elgamal (default)
[04:20] <suresh>    (2) DSA (sign only)
[04:20] <suresh>    (5) RSA (sign only)
[04:20] <trappist> and ratpoison is like wtf is this
[04:20] <linuxkid2> no mouse. I know.
[04:20] <m4x1mum> next time someone should make shoebox lol
[04:20] <trappist> suresh: just hit enter to accept the default
[04:20] <luke-jr_> What's the wifi config app included with Kubuntu 6.06?
[04:20] <suresh> trappist: this gpg key what is the real use?
[04:20] <linuxkid2> wlassistant
[04:21] <FaLc[ON] 2> please ... :)
[04:21] <intelikey> m4x1mum i loaded mandrake 9.0 on a 80486 lappy with 16m ram and 124m hdd     GNU/linux  that is.
[04:21] <suresh> trappist: What is the default key sze?
[04:21] <trappist> suresh: you use it to encrypt files, emails, etc., which might be a big deal, but you also use it to sign files and messages, to prove they come from you.  that's a pretty big deal, and you wouldn't want that compromised.
[04:21] <intelikey> m4x1mum yeah all those a named are lightweight gui's
[04:21] <m4x1mum> whoaa
[04:21] <trappist> suresh: I don't know what the default size is.  I'd go with at least 2048
[04:22] <intelikey> m4x1mum twm being the lightest.   twm is about 300k   :)
[04:22] <linuxkid2> hey, I screwed my root partition, am running from liveCD, and want to know how to use testdisk to recover my system. or at least data.
[04:22] <luke-jr_> linuxkid2: that the GUI app too?
[04:22] <m4x1mum> lol damn so small
[04:22] <trappist> linuxkid2: if you're the guy who dd'ed a floppy image to hda0 your time would be better spent reinstalling
[04:22] <linuxkid2> luke-jr: wireless assistant, wlassistant, is the GUI wireless program
[04:22] <m4x1mum> is there any defragmentation tool for kubuntu?
[04:23] <trappist> m4x1mum: unnecessary.  and, afaik, no.
[04:23] <intelikey> m4x1mum yes.   it runs in X  so the size of the base xorg is still the same.
[04:23] <linuxkid2> trappist: yeah I am, but I want my home dir. (This time i'm using a separate partition.)
[04:23] <m4x1mum> unnecessary? linux do not suffer from fragmentation?
[04:23] <trappist> m4x1mum: it automatically defrags all the time
[04:24] <intelikey> m4x1mum never saw one.
[04:24] <linuxkid2> m4x1mum: ext3 doesn't really.
[04:24] <m4x1mum> ooh ok
[04:24] <tony_> woow.. thats interesting to know .. no defrags
[04:24] <unix_infidel> its not that it DOESNT defrag.
[04:24] <m4x1mum> yeah its new to me too lol
[04:24] <Dr_willis> Isent Linux Amazing!
[04:24] <Dr_willis> :P
[04:24] <Ahmuck> hi, i am having problems with connecting to the internet in kubuntu.  i noticed in some of the settings is shows ip6
[04:24] <Ahmuck> is there a way i can fix this ?
[04:25] <unix_infidel> it defrags automatically.
[04:25] <trappist> unix_infidel: you mean, it's not that it doesn't fragment :)
[04:25] <linuxkid2> so, does anybody know how I can use testdisk to save my home dir?
[04:25] <tony_> it sure getting more and more interesting for me :)..
[04:25] <trappist> Ahmuck: ipv6 support won't keep you from connecting
[04:25] <Dr_willis> I though any fragmention - dosent affect system preformacne
[04:25] <unix_infidel> trappist: no, some of the above said it doesnt defrag.
[04:25] <unix_infidel> trappist: and ext3 does fragment as well.
[04:25] <trappist> Dr_willis: fragmentation does effect performance
[04:25] <unix_infidel> its negligible at best.
[04:25] <intelikey> m4x1mum ext#fs can but generally doesn't suffer from fragmentation.    most non-contiguous i have seen yet is 5.2%   and that's really really rare
[04:25] <trappist> unix_infidel: what I mean is, all filesystems fragment.  and all linux filesystems defrag automatically.
[04:25] <Ahmuck> hrm, then i am not sure why i am not connecting.  i am getting an ip address
[04:26] <unix_infidel> trappist: heh, you dont have to explain it to me :)
[04:26] <trappist> intelikey: yeah that's quite a bit more than I've ever seen
[04:26] <trappist> unix_infidel: oh ok :)
[04:26] <intelikey> m4x1mum normal is  0.5%
[04:26] <Dr_willis> this conversation is fragmented. :P
[04:26] <tony_> lol
[04:26] <m4x1mum> but what if i do stuff like download lots of small files and then delete some then add some more then delete some
[04:26] <intelikey> or less
[04:26] <unix_infidel> Dr_willis: ftw.
[04:26] <trappist> Ahmuck: can you ping your default gateway?
[04:26] <linuxkid2> so, does anybody know how I can use testdisk to save my home dir? Please?
[04:26] <suresh> trappist: ok it's done....for here where do i go....
[04:26] <unix_infidel> suresh: what exactly are you trying to do with gpg?
[04:26] <trappist> m4x1mum: that will cause fragmentation, which will be dealt with automatically.
[04:26] <Ahmuck> it does not list a default gateway.  i should be getting dhcp from my ips
[04:27] <m4x1mum> ooh ok
[04:27] <trappist> suresh: well, now you have a public/private key pair.  what did you want to do next?
[04:27] <intelikey> what's the perscription Dr_willis ?
[04:27] <Ahmuck> is there a way to do a similar command in dapper such as "ipconfig /renew"
[04:27] <intelikey> :)
[04:27] <trappist> Ahmuck: what does "route -n | grep ^0" say
[04:27] <trappist> Ahmuck: sudo dhclient
[04:27] <trappist> Ahmuck: or, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:27] <Ahmuck> trappist: i will have to reboot
[04:28] <trappist> Ahmuck: no
[04:28] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  4 double Espressos and then a handfull of chocklet-covered coffee beans
[04:28] <m4x1mum> sigh transferring the next 30Gb :(
[04:28] <suresh> trappist: well actually....you know i was trying to update
[04:28] <trappist> Ahmuck: reboots are for hardware and kernel upgrades
[04:28] <Ahmuck> yea, i am double os on here
[04:28] <suresh> trappist: well apt-update
[04:28] <unix_infidel> suresh: trying to update, as in apt-get update?
[04:28] <tony_> Ahmuck: did you chose eth0 as you default gateway ???
[04:28] <Ahmuck> so i am windows currently
[04:28] <Ahmuck> yes
[04:28] <m4x1mum> i got dual boot too
[04:28] <unix_infidel> suresh: well you dont need to create public private keys to do that.
[04:28] <trappist> suresh: um... haha, you didn't need a gpg key for yourself, you needed to add the gpg key from the mirror you're using :)
[04:28] <trappist> Ahmuck: ah.  nm then.
[04:29] <m4x1mum> windows for playing games, linux for everything else :)
[04:29] <suresh> trappist: what?
[04:29] <unix_infidel> suresh: hold up, lemme find you a tutorial real quick.
[04:29] <linuxkid2> c'mon, the testdisk man page is spare and cryptic. I'd like to know how to use it. Whoever recommended it had better speak up.
[04:29] <trappist> suresh: this is one reason it helps to be as specific as possible when you ask a question :)  all that stuff didn't get you any closer.
[04:29] <unix_infidel> http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=d984e1a5ed4597cb11313b10f84608bd&topic=544.0
[04:29] <unix_infidel> suresh: ^^^^^
[04:29] <unix_infidel> that should get you on your way.
[04:29] <fateisajester> is there a program i can use to mount an iso like a cd like daemon tools?
[04:30] <suresh> trappist: sorry man...
[04:30] <unix_infidel> fateisajester: mount.
[04:30] <m4x1mum> lol the same question like yesterday
[04:30] <fateisajester> is it a gui?
[04:30] <trappist> suresh: but, now it might be easier to understand: the packages are signed with someone's gpg key, so you can know they came from who they're supposed to come from, and haven't been modified.
[04:30] <unix_infidel> fateisajester: no, of course not.
[04:30] <m4x1mum> !mount
[04:30] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[04:30] <m4x1mum> !mount iso
[04:30] <ubotu> mount: Tools for mounting and manipulating filesystems. In component main, is required. Version 2.12r-4ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 149 kB, installed size 336 kB
[04:31] <suresh> trappist; Ok i understand..
[04:31] <axel> !linux
[04:31] <ubotu> linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[04:31] <linuxkid2> faeisajester: mount <file> -t <type> <mountpointdir>
[04:31] <m4x1mum> hmmmm forgot the command
[04:31] <trappist> m4x1mum: I think it's !mountiso
[04:31] <fateisajester> thx
[04:31] <trappist> m4x1mum: try, /msg ubotu mountiso
[04:31] <m4x1mum> !mountiso
[04:31] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[04:31] <m4x1mum> aah there ya go
[04:31] <axel> ;)
[04:32] <m4x1mum> you see this fateisajester ?!?!?!
[04:32] <m4x1mum> :)
[04:32] <fateisajester> yes than you very much
[04:33] <m4x1mum> wooow transferring 11,000+ files
[04:33] <linuxkid2> so, who recommended testdisk for partition recovery? I'm the idiot who dd'ed a floppy onto my root partition.
[04:33] <unix_infidel> m4x1mum: might have tar-ed them up first eh?
[04:33] <m4x1mum> i dont even connect my floppy to my mobo
[04:33] <suresh> trappist: do i do exactly what it says on the site?
[04:34] <m4x1mum> aah no way, that 11,000 files is 30Gb in size in total thats too slow
[04:34] <trappist> suresh: I haven't looked at the site, but probably
[04:34] <linuxkid2> I meant to copy an image to the floppy disk, and copied to hda1 instead.
[04:34] <unix_infidel> suresh: no, not exactly.
[04:35] <trappist> linuxkid2: I like to sit back and stare for a while at any command that starts with 'sudo dd' before hitting enter.
[04:35] <linuxkid2> On a live CD, trying to make a boot floppy for the LiveCD for another computer, it didn't even warn me, it was over before I knew it.
[04:35] <SeanTater> m4x1mum: just tarred and gzipped 11GB here
[04:35] <suresh> unix_infidel: well yes tell me...
[04:35] <unix_infidel> suresh: well, if you dont want skype, you dont add that line to your sources.list.
[04:35] <intelikey> linuxkid2 i recommended it  but someone else was talking to you and trying to help.   so what's the progress ?
[04:35] <tk> soulrider: you around?
[04:35] <unix_infidel> same goes for opera and some of the other 3rd party repos.
[04:35] <tk> Hawkwind: or you might know?
[04:36] <m4x1mum> transferring 10Gb of data :( damn 2 more main folder worth of 20Gb left phew then i can reformat to ext3
[04:36] <linuxkid2> intelikey: I've got the Kubuntu CD running and have installed testdisk. I've read the man page but can't figure it out.
[04:36] <unix_infidel> m4x1mum: i'm sure you gzipped that thing first :P
[04:36] <intelikey> linuxkid2 yep linux is good that way.  when you are root you better not tell it to do something you don't really want it to do....
[04:37] <linuxkid2> stupid liveCD.
[04:37] <tony_> :|
[04:37] <unix_infidel> suresh: do you understand?
[04:37] <linuxkid2> It was puppy, which forces you to use su to become a REGULAR user.
[04:37] <m4x1mum> nah most of them is movies and mp3 and some compressed cd image, so i dont think gzip them is gonna help
[04:37] <intelikey> linuxkid2 in the konsole  do    sduo testdisk
[04:37] <intelikey> sudo testdisk
[04:37] <unix_infidel> m4x1mum: well, tar would've definately helped, no doubt about it.
[04:37] <linuxkid2> ok, got a curses-type app.
[04:38] <soulrider> het tk
[04:38] <soulrider> damn, Kubuntu needs something like Mandriva's net_applet
[04:38] <soulrider> its friggin awesome
[04:38] <intelikey> yep
[04:38] <soulrider> :P
[04:38] <unix_infidel> intelikey: well, trappist doesnt REALLY know his way around a nix box, so i think you're safe.
[04:38] <linuxkid2> intelikey: ok, got a curses-type app.
[04:38] <tk> soulrider: you familiar with Gallery2 at all? :P I got it setup but I cant make it "import" the images I already have... hmmm
[04:39] <suresh> unix_infidel: the keys that was not found where for opera and
[04:39] <soulrider> no idea TK
[04:39] <intelikey> lol
[04:39] <felixjet> hi :D
[04:39] <linuxkid2> intelikey: now what?
[04:39] <soulrider> does anyone know if a program similar to Mandriva's net_applet i can use in kubuntu? its exactly what i need
[04:39] <tk> soulrider: figured it out i think :)
[04:39] <intelikey> linuxkid2 yes.   and read what it says and answer accordingly
[04:39] <suresh> unix infidel: : GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release:
[04:39] <soulrider> great!
[04:40] <linuxkid2> intelikey: should I analyze hda?
[04:40] <suresh> unix infidel: how do i sort this out..
[04:40] <unix_infidel> suresh: well, think about it this way, each of those lines in the first part talks about online servers where you can get programs (like firefox and gaim and konversation)
[04:40] <intelikey> linuxkid2  scan the affected disk
[04:40] <suresh> unix infidel: ok
[04:40] <intelikey> yes if hda is the affected disk
[04:40] <m4x1mum> 999files total of 5.6Gb :( im getting sick of waiting for file transfer
[04:41] <unix_infidel> the last part talks about keys, just like you would open a door with, every door has a right key.  so you want each package to have a key so you know its suppose to be installed on your computer before you install it.
[04:41] <trappist> unix_infidel: you're lucky I'm too busy reading digg to see that ;)
[04:41] <unix_infidel> suresh: just like you wouldnt let 123.exe install on your windows box from im.a.hacker.com
[04:41] <soulrider> is ther a place where we can suggets things for Edgy? or make requests ?
[04:41] <unix_infidel> trappist: :P
[04:41] <Ahmuck> k, dhclient shows the address belonging to an old firewall/router.  network settings show a ip address from my isp and a gateway of 192.168.1.x range.  so i don 't quite understand what is going on with the routing, however, is there a way to /renew the dhcp address (/release) and flush the local dns cache ?
[04:41] <m4x1mum> what is edgy? is it still kubuntu?
[04:42] <soulrider> its what will come after dapper
[04:42] <m4x1mum> ooh so mine is outdated?
[04:42] <linuxkid2> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25936/
[04:42] <suresh> unix infidel: I get it.
[04:42] <linuxkid2> intelikey: testdisk output.
[04:42] <soulrider> not yet m4x1mum
[04:43] <ccherrett> how does one cp files from a firewire device that I do not have permissions to. I cannot su to root
[04:43] <intelikey> m4x1mum yes the next release of kubuntu.
[04:43] <unix_infidel> suresh: so, each of those lines in the first part (the sources.list) part is a place where you can get packages, determine WHICH PACKAGES you want and which ones you dont want, remove the lines from the packages you dont want.
[04:43] <m4x1mum> ooh
[04:43] <m4x1mum> now transferring 2722files lol
[04:43] <m4x1mum> damn how to make numlock to turn on automatically?
[04:44] <felixjet> wow
[04:44] <shaslap> i cant seem to enable my broadcom 4318 wireless card, is there something i need to install?
[04:44] <felixjet> kopete is good for msn
[04:44] <linuxkid2> unix_infidel: sources.list says which servers apt should download from. they are categorized by license and type mostly.
[04:44] <unix_infidel> suresh: and then, look at the part that says "source-keys" at the bottom and match them up with whatever parts from the sources.list part you decided to include. and then issue them (as root)
[04:44] <linuxkid2> nothing tops aMSN for MSN clone.
[04:44] <intelikey> linuxkid2 yeah proceed
[04:44] <Ahmuck> ! flushdns
[04:44] <suresh> unix infidel: trying them now.
[04:44] <m4x1mum> bah i don't even use MSN even in windows
[04:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flushdns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:45] <m4x1mum> i use Trillian in windows :)
[04:45] <Ahmuck> ! renew ip
[04:45] <luke-jr_> EWW
[04:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about renew ip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:45] <unix_infidel> linuxkid2: i'm not getting into the intricacies of sources.list as you wouldnt try to explain cgi to a C newbie :P
[04:45] <ccherrett> when I type sudo cd dir it tells me that sodu: cd: command not found
[04:45] <ccherrett> what am I doing wrong?
[04:45] <Ahmuck> ! dhcp
[04:45] <ubotu> dhcp: DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0pl5-19.4 (dapper), package size 107 kB, installed size 304 kB
[04:45] <Ahmuck> ! dhcp renew
[04:45] <linuxkid2> unix_infidel: I don't know the intricies either.
[04:45] <unix_infidel> ccherrett: because its sudo.
[04:45] <m4x1mum> throw away the sudo
[04:46] <unix_infidel> ccherrett: and you can usually cd into any dir you want as normal user.
[04:46] <unix_infidel> so you dont need the "sudo" part before "cd"
[04:46] <unix_infidel> just cd /path/to/dir/
[04:46] <ccherrett> unix_infidel: when I just cd it tells me permission denied
[04:46] <linuxkid2> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25937/
[04:46] <unix_infidel> ccherrett: which dir?
[04:46] <ccherrett> in konqueror it shows with a lock
[04:47] <ccherrett> it is a backup of my home dir from my last install of Mandriva
[04:47] <unix_infidel> ccherrett: what errors does it give you?
[04:47] <ccherrett> bash: cd: Desktop/: Permission denied
[04:47] <unix_infidel> not when you do "sudo cd" but just "cd /mandriva/backup/"
[04:48] <soulrider> anyone know where i can request a feature for edgy ?
[04:48] <intelikey> linuxkid2 looks like you should close it and blank the first 512bites of the hd
[04:48] <ccherrett> drwx------   7  500  500      4096 2006-10-07 00:15 Desktop
[04:48] <unix_infidel> ccherrett: my first guess would be to chown whatever parts of the backup you deem necessary.
[04:48] <linuxkid2> intelikey: and how?
[04:48] <intelikey> linuxkid2 sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda count=1
[04:48] <unix_infidel> ccherrett: permissions sound right to me.
[04:48] <unix_infidel> might be an ownership issue.
[04:48] <intelikey> then sudo testdisk    again
[04:49] <linuxkid2> intelikey: that makes me nervouse but I'll do it.
[04:49] <rafael> !tibia
[04:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tibia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:49] <rafael> any play tibia ?
[04:49] <unix_infidel> ccherrett: ahh, my mistake.
[04:49] <intelikey> linuxkid2 it thinks it's the floppy you dd'd there  so you need to kill the floppy then use the testdisk app to fix the hdd
[04:50] <unix_infidel> you need to OWN the file in order to get the permissions for the folder.
[04:50] <m4x1mum> linux owned ya
[04:50] <unix_infidel> m4x1mum: ?
[04:50] <m4x1mum> :) nothing
[04:50] <suresh> unix infidel: Well for some reason this does not seem right...
[04:51] <linuxkid2> intelikey: here's the new testdisk page: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25938/
[04:51] <SuprUs3r> In Soviet Russia, you not own file, file own you!
[04:51] <ccherrett> unix_infidel: thanks that worked
[04:51] <unix_infidel> ccherrett: np, enjoy your transition from Mandriva to Kubuntu :)
[04:51] <m4x1mum> say when i share a folder in samba, does all the sub folder shared as well?
[04:51] <ccherrett> I am just getting use to the sudo thing and what is and is not
[04:51] <unix_infidel> SuprUs3r: in soviet russia, everything is a file.
[04:51] <unix_infidel> BOOYAH!
[04:51] <unix_infidel> oh wait....
[04:51] <unix_infidel> crap.
[04:51] <m4x1mum> lol
[04:51] <intelikey> linuxkid2 better.  proceed
[04:52] <ccherrett> Mandriva just would not configure my devices propperly
[04:52] <SuprUs3r> unix_infidel: You are not user, you are luser.
[04:52] <unix_infidel> SuprUs3r: no, i'm a lua user in windows.
[04:52] <unix_infidel> in linspire i'm a super user.
[04:52] <ccherrett> I just installed Mandriva 2007 and so many things were broken
[04:52] <intelikey> luser / puser / muser / user    meeeh
[04:52] <unix_infidel> ccherrett: i left mandriva after i tried 10.1 and didnt like it.
[04:53] <ccherrett> so after 6 years of Mandrake/Mandriva I uninstalled and KUBUNTUed it
[04:53] <rafael> any play tibia ?
[04:53] <unix_infidel> at that time it was called mandrake.
[04:53] <m4x1mum> i wanted to install mandrake at first for playing around with linux :)
[04:53] <ccherrett> kubuntu detected everything that I can see
[04:53] <linuxkid2> intelikey: this still doesn't look good http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25939/
[04:54] <m4x1mum> but there is this website that have a top 10 distribution and ubuntu is no 1 hehehe
[04:54] <ccherrett> Hawkwind: I just switched from Mandriva to KUBUNTU :)
[04:54] <linuxkid2> distrowatch?
[04:54] <m4x1mum> and i heard that KDE is pretty popular, so i go with kubuntu
[04:54] <m4x1mum> yeah i think its distrowatch
[04:55] <m4x1mum> my university use fedora core :)
[04:55] <linuxkid2> Ubuntu is No.1 distro, and KDE is No.1 DE, and Kubuntu is only like No.12?
[04:55] <unix_infidel> suresh: follow this guide EXACTLY and you should find yourself happy.
[04:55] <unix_infidel> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[04:56] <intelikey> linuxkid2 line 25 in that pastebin  "25. EXT3 Sparse superblock Recover, 11876 MB"   that's what you want, isn't it ?
[04:56] <m4x1mum> lol
[04:56] <Ahmuck> any idea on my connection problems ?
[04:57] <linuxkid2> intelikey: that shows when I select the Linux partition in the above box. it shows FAT12 1MB when I select the FAT 12. It is the old one I think.
[04:57] <ghostshadow189> hi all , i installed icewm with "sudo apt-get install icewm iceconf iceme" . after that , i loged out and choosed icewm session . but unfornately , it didnt display anything , like toolbar , start menu , etc . it just displayed a blue desktop  . i also tried ctrl+alt+esc and i saw window list , so that mean maybe i installed icewm successfully , but still there're some mistake ?
[04:57] <linuxkid2> intelikey: so is it L or enter?
[04:57] <intelikey> linuxkid2 select the linux partition and enter
[04:58] <m4x1mum> ok people do i unmount the /dev/sdb1 before formating?
[04:58] <intelikey> m4x1mum yes
[04:58] <linuxkid2> yes
[04:58] <travis_> yup
[04:58] <intelikey> never format a mounted fs
[04:58] <m4x1mum> how do i reformat harddisk in the first place?
[04:59] <travis_> Unmount the partitions and then use a tool like cfdisk
[04:59] <intelikey> m4x1mum you partition (if you are normal) the disk and mke2fs the partition
[04:59] <fastduke> will mkfs even let you format a mounted partition?
[05:00] <linuxkid2> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25941/
[05:00] <intelikey> fastduke not supposed to. but don't trust safty devices.
[05:00] <m4x1mum> mke2fs can make ext3 file system?
[05:00] <rafael> any play tibia in linux?
[05:00] <Dr_willis> I broke my Tibia once...
[05:00] <Dr_willis> :P
[05:01] <intelikey> m4x1mum yes   mke2fs -j -c /dev/hda1    hda1 is example only
[05:01] <ghostshadow189> s1 help me pls , i installed icewm with "sudo apt-get install icewm iceconf iceme" . after that , i loged out and choosed icewm session . but unfornately , it didnt display anything , like toolbar , start menu , etc . it just displayed a blue desktop  . i also tried ctrl+alt+esc and i saw window list , so that mean maybe i installed icewm successfully , but still there're some mistake ?
[05:01] <Dr_willis> ghostshadow189,  odd.. its worked for me befor
[05:02] <ghostshadow189> u installed like i did ?
[05:02] <Dr_willis> basicially
[05:02] <intelikey> linuxkid2 looks like you probably had a swap partition too ?   use the search feature.
[05:02] <Dr_willis> theres only so many ways to install it. :P
[05:02] <linuxkid2> intelikey: yeah I did.
[05:02] <Dr_willis> icewm is nice in ways.. lacking in others
[05:03] <Dr_willis> try installing some other window managers like fluxbox and windowmaker
[05:03] <Dr_willis> and see if they work
[05:03] <intelikey> twm is nice in ways..... just no one likes those ways....
[05:03] <intelikey> :)
[05:03] <linuxkid2> fluxbox or kde for me :)
[05:03] <ghostshadow189> Dr_willis , do u think i should config again xorg
[05:03] <ghostshadow189> maybe it not work in icewm ?
[05:03] <suresh> unix infidel: nope still there's an error, i'm fed up with this
[05:04] <Dr_willis> xorgs confifuration should NOT affect icewm at all.
[05:04] <Dr_willis> icewm runs on top of X.. if X is broke - its broke for all them. :P
[05:04] <ghostshadow189> oh :(
[05:05] <Dr_willis> !info iceme
[05:05] <ubotu> iceme: A graphical menu editor for IceWM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-12ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 36 kB, installed size 296 kB
[05:05] <ghostshadow189> i cant understand what happned with my icewm ????????
[05:05] <Dr_willis> have you ever used icewm befor on that machine?
[05:05] <intelikey> xfree86/xorg/xgl   that about exhousts the list of actual gui's the rest are de/ce/wm 's
[05:05] <Dr_willis> let me test this.. brb
[05:05] <ghostshadow189> Dr_willis : no
[05:06] <ghostshadow189> i've just bought a new comp
[05:06] <ghostshadow189> and i'm install it :D
 let me test this.. brb
[05:06] <intelikey> -:- SignOff Dr_willis: #kubuntu ("Leaving")
 Dr_willis : no
[05:07] <intelikey> as in already gone.....
[05:07] <fastduke> intelikey, I don't know cause I've never tried to format a mounted partition :)
[05:07] <fastduke> I just figured it would freak out
[05:07] <linuxkid2> fastduke: you just cant
[05:07] <linuxkid2> why would you want to anyway.
[05:08] <intelikey> fastduke [ freak out == error out ]   && echo yes
[05:08] <Dr_willis> icewm works for me..i installed it exactly how you did
[05:09] <ghostshadow189> Dr_willis : thanx , i'll try it again :(
[05:10] <ghostshadow189> oh Dr_willis : can u tell me again wat exactly u done ? step by step pls ;)
[05:10] <intelikey> Dr_willis ghostshadow189 it's not one of those silent error thingys is it ?     sudo apt-get install -f      ?
[05:11] <suresh> unix infidel: sorry man seem to be stuck here!
[05:11] <Dr_willis> ghostshadow189,  i cut/pasted what you said you did.. that installed a few programs.. i  loggedout of X.. and selected icewm in the KDM menus
[05:11] <intelikey> linuxkid2 how you progressing ?
[05:11] <ghostshadow189> :-/ , i'll try again . anyway , thanx
[05:11] <intelikey> regressing
[05:11] <suresh> unix infidel:W: GPG error: http://deb.opera.com etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 033431536A423791
[05:12] <intelikey> digressing ?
[05:12] <linuxkid2> intelikey: still scanning :/
[05:12] <intelikey> k
[05:12] <craigbass1976> I've looked aroudn the desktop for a couple days now and can't find how to shut off the login sound in KDE.  I stopped the drum at the login screen, but not the sound that palys once KDE is finished firing up.  Anyone know how?
[05:12] <intelikey> let'r run.
[05:13] <linuxkid2> craigbass: if it aint in the kubuntu system settings, it might be in the hidden kde control panel. run kcontrol
[05:14] <intelikey> craigbass1976 system >> settings  >> admin >> login settings
[05:14] <intelikey> craigbass1976 i think that's where it's at but havent actually checked
[05:16] <craigbass1976> I found it in kcontrol.  I'm actually using ubuntu CE, and just installed it last week.  Found to my surprise that a wicked loud sound plays at start up, which happened to be in church as the pastor was starting the message....  Thanks linuxkid2
[05:16] <intelikey> i can't actually check.
[05:16] <intelikey> it requores a password and i don't have one.
[05:17] <linuxkid2> craigbass1976: also System Settings => Sound & Multimedia => System Notifications
[05:18] <Dr_willis> ubuntu CE :)
[05:18] <Dr_willis> I still get amuzed that such a thing exists
[05:18] <linuxkid2> intelikey: why's this taking so long to scan?
[05:18] <craigbass1976> Ahhh.  Cool.  I also found (and it's weird that I never stumble across this until a couuple days ago) that I can make Ctrl+K open up a terminal.  Been using KDE in Fedora since FC1 and never realized.
[05:18] <linuxkid2> what's Ubuntu CE? PocketPC or something?
[05:19] <intelikey> it's scanning the disk   how big is the disk ?
[05:19] <suresh> anyone who can help me?
[05:19] <suresh> problem
[05:19] <craigbass1976> Dr_willis, did you see the joke page about CE?  You'd have to look in the forums, but some were quite funny
[05:19] <linuxkid2> intelikey: ~13GB It only took like 2 minutes last time.
[05:19] <unix_infidel> linuxkid2: what kinda network you on?
[05:20] <intelikey> linuxkid2 how ever long it would normally take to check for bad secrots is 'about' how long it will take to search for partitions/file systems
[05:20] <craigbass1976> linuxkid2, christian edition.   I think the biggest difference is Gnomesword being installed by default, but i've never run stock ubuntu so I don't know.
[05:20] <linuxkid2> ah
[05:20] <intelikey> unix_infidel i think that's local to him
[05:20] <linuxkid2> unix_infidel: DSL 256kbps.
[05:21] <unix_infidel> hmm, 10MB or 10GB
[05:21] <linuxkid2> I'd rather a Mormon edition :-)
[05:21] <intelikey> unix_infidel 13 G    hda
[05:21] <unix_infidel> oh, from partition to partition.
[05:21] <unix_infidel> still that's an overstatement.
[05:22] <intelikey> unix_infidel no
[05:22] <unix_infidel> that's roughly 6.5GB per minute.
[05:22] <intelikey> testdisk
[05:22] <unix_infidel> gotcha.
[05:24] <intelikey> unix_infidel i guess you missed the start of that.   he dd'd a floppy image to hda rather than fd0
[05:24] <linuxkid2> intelikey: what's up with the FAT12 instead of FAT16 or vfat?
[05:24] <unix_infidel> intelikey: yea, i tend to just but in without scrolling up :P
[05:24] <ubuntu_> hey, i'm trying to install kubuntu onto /dev/hdf, but the install only seems to allow me to select /dev/hda or /dev/hdb for partitioning.
[05:24] <intelikey> linuxkid2 it's the floppy image.
[05:25] <linuxkid2> intelikey: I know, but why is it 12 instead of 26 or 32, which are the only ones I've heard of.
[05:25] <fastduke> fat12 has always been the floppy format
[05:25] <intelikey> floppies are default fat12  but can be formated ext# vfat fat16 minux or others
[05:25] <linuxkid2> oh
[05:26] <linuxkid2> hmm, fat means file allocation table, and ntfs is nt files system, what's ext?
[05:27] <intelikey> new technology file system    iirc
[05:27] <orkid__> EXTended File System
[05:27] <madorb> well, that's if you believe that nt means new technology
[05:27] <madorb> some people claim it does, some claim it means nothing
[05:27] <orkid__> NETWORK technology, not new
[05:27] <linuxkid2> well, NT is newer than DOS.
[05:27] <madorb> ntfs means NT file system, nt doesn't stand for anything in my opinion
[05:27] <linuxkid2> I thought it was New Tech
[05:28] <orkid__> and it actually DOES mean network, since 3.1 was bad with networking, 3.11 had it kind of hacked in, and NT was really a networking product (3.5 server, etc)
[05:28] <madorb> so, why won't the installer let me partition & install to /dev/hdf?
[05:28] <craigbass1976> No Telling (when it will break next)?
[05:28] <linuxkid2> i know. windows 3.x-me was desktops, and NT-2000 was servers.
[05:29] <linuxkid2> now what? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25942/
[05:29] <fastduke> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_file_system
[05:30] <linuxkid2> ok, thanks.
[05:30] <fastduke> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3
[05:30] <linuxkid2> madorb: hdf sounds strange. how many harddrives you got?
[05:30] <madorb> 3
[05:30] <madorb> physical drives
[05:30] <madorb> 2 big ones
[05:31] <madorb> and one 40 gig that has two partitions, one windows, one linux
[05:31] <linuxkid2> a is #1, b #2, and c usually is cdrom
[05:31] <linuxkid2> why f?
[05:31] <madorb> which kubuntu sees as /dev/hdf
[05:32] <orkid__> actually, you might be right, that it means 'new technology'. my bad.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_NT
[05:32] <linuxkid2> madorb: may have to use alternate install if ubiquity wont do it.
[05:32] <orkid__> scroll down to 'NT' Designation
[05:32] <madorb> no idea why it sees it as f
[05:32] <intelikey> linuxkid2 looks like 8-13 are the backup supperblocks for the main partition and the swap is of course the end
[05:33] <linuxkid2> intelikey: so what do I do now?
[05:33] <intelikey> hit T on that first one "the floppy" and see if you can delete it
[05:33] <linuxkid2> madorb: there's a CD that is the old cli install method that might work.
[05:34] <linuxkid2> intelikey: ya mean d?
[05:34] <madorb> i've got the DVD so it should have alternate install as well
[05:34] <linuxkid2> never mind
[05:35] <linuxkid2> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25943/
[05:35] <intelikey> linuxkid2 looking
[05:36] <linuxkid2> madorb: if you do then it might be a boot option,
[05:36] <intelikey> ok no option to delete there.  so proceed even with the added fat12
[05:36] <madorb> yeah i'll reboot and give it a peep
[05:36] <madorb> thanks guys
[05:37] <intelikey> i may have to dd a floppy to a hdd just to play with it.
[05:38] <linuxkid2> I clicked proceed and it asked for "New Partition Type"
[05:38] <intelikey> back up and try again...  ?
[05:39] <linuxkid2> entered ? and it brought me back to the screen two before.
[05:39] <linuxkid2> brb
[05:39] <intelikey> k
[05:39] <Ahmuck> how do i clear ip information in kubuntu ?
[05:42] <intelikey> Ahmuck which/where/what ip information
[05:43] <Ahmuck> i am unable to connect using kubuntu.  i have before.  i need to flush out my ip and renew
[05:43] <intelikey> ifconfig
[05:44] <intelikey> man ifconfig
[05:44] <intelikey> or use a gui app   that i know nothing about.
[05:44] <linuxkid2> i'm back
[05:45] <Momal> anyone use a screen capture program to record video on screen ?
[05:45] <intelikey> i'm scanning a disk now so i can see what you are up against linuxkid2
[05:45] <linuxkid2> intelikey: must be kind of weird to know all that CLI stuff and be behind on the gui.
[05:45] <linuxkid2> k
[05:45] <Momal> could not open default font 'fixed' <-- does anyone know a fix for that?.. I have tried reinstall X and everything but still no luck :S
[05:45] <intelikey> linuxkid2 i've been called that.
[05:45] <fastduke> Ahmuck, "ifdown eth0" then you can run "dhclient eth0"
[05:45] <orkid__> what's the firefox java plugin in kubuntu packaged as?
[05:46] <orkid__> 1.5, preferably sun
[05:46] <linuxkid2> hey, if you use linux desktop, you're weird. :) as in "not normal"
[05:46] <fastduke> dhclient will let you see the conversation
[05:46] <linuxkid2> !java
[05:46] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:47] <intelikey> linux desktop    is that an app ?
[05:47] <Ahmuck> fastduke: is there a way to "reset" the network info so dhcp will do auto ?
[05:47] <Momal> linuxkid2: I don't find people using linux desktop are weird... but windows on the other hand :p
[05:47] <linuxkid2> linux on the destkop.
[05:47] <linuxkid2> I meant normal as in mainstream.
[05:47] <linuxkid2> linux server on the other hand...
[05:47] <fastduke> Ahmuck, what do you mean?
[05:48] <linuxkid2> Ahmuck: try System Settings => Network
[05:48] <linuxkid2> you can set to auto DHCP i there.
[05:48] <linuxkid2> in
[05:48] <Momal> could not open default font 'fixed' <-- anyone have quick fix to that error? (I notice it trying to run vncserver)
[05:49] <zOrK> is kubuntu stable as ubuntu
[05:49] <zOrK> ?
[05:49] <maryen> zOrK: yes, and cooler to boot
[05:49] <unix_infidel> zOrK: yes, next question?
[05:49] <intelikey> my dad is 65 years old and about two months ago he sat down at my computer and looked at a web page   was the first he ever had a mouse in his hand  and has never typed anything in.    it being my system... he has still hever tuched anything M$
[05:49] <linuxkid2> cool
[05:49] <zOrK> lol
[05:49] <fastduke> zOrK, you are comparing KDE to Gnome if you ask me
[05:49] <zOrK> fastduke,  ok
[05:50] <Momal> yea kubuntu and ubuntu are exact same just one had kde and one has gnome :p
[05:50] <zOrK> Does kubuntu has the same problem as ubuntu with Broadcom   wireless cards?
[05:50] <linuxkid2> If you get "weaned" on Mac or Linux, you can never be satisfied with Windows.
[05:50] <linuxkid2> isn't that a kernel thing?
[05:50] <maryen> no! kubuntu was made with pixie dust while ubuntu was made with reruns of wings
[05:50] <Momal> lol! so true linuxkid2 :p
[05:51] <maryen> yes sorta
[05:51] <Momal> maryen: where can I get some of this pixie dust ?
[05:51] <maryen> but wireless is generally easy to handle
[05:51] <linuxkid2> I had Mac 7-8 till I was about 9, and then we got a Win98 and, well, I miss the mac.
[05:51] <maryen> fdoving should have some
[05:51] <zOrK> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[05:51] <TehKewl1> err.... any ideas on this error: Could not find mime type
[05:51] <TehKewl1> application/octet-stream
[05:51] <zOrK> that one linuxkid2
[05:52] <maryen> that guide will work on kubuntu and ubuntu
[05:52] <linuxkid2> ah. I don't have one.
[05:52] <zOrK> yes I know
[05:52] <linuxkid2> intelikey: how do you use that * thingy?
[05:52] <TehKewl1>  /me whatever
[05:52] <fastduke>  /me
[05:53] <fastduke> TehKewl1, fast
[05:53] <zOrK> downloading kubuntu
[05:53] <TehKewl1> now fix my error >:O
[05:53] <maryen> do you have ubuntu installed zork?
[05:53] <TehKewl1> linux and nintendo IMHO :D
[05:53] <zOrK> yes maryen , but somewhat I don't wanna use ubuntu
[05:53] <zOrK> I wanna learn linux.. ubuntu has everything already installed.
[05:53] <intelikey> linuxkid2 which thingy ?
[05:53] <linuxkid2> as opposed to violins.
[05:53] <zOrK> kubuntu too, but let's try it
[05:53] <maryen> just type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop zork
[05:53] <zOrK> I can't speak without proving it.
[05:54] <linuxkid2> never mind, I figured it out. the /me command.
[05:54] <zOrK> nah, I'll install kubuntu
[05:54] <zOrK> thanks anyway
[05:54] <zOrK> it is great to know it
[05:54] <intelikey> linuxkid2 :)
[05:54] <maryen> that does install it >.>
[05:54] <maryen> just without needing an .iso
[05:54] <zOrK> can I make an apt-get install ubuntu-desktop on  kubuntu?
[05:54] <maryen> yes
[05:54] <zOrK> cool.
[05:54] <fastduke> zOrK, all you have to do is stay away from apt and you'll learn linux
[05:55] <zOrK> yeah, that's a wiser advice.
[05:55] <Momal> could not open default font 'fixed' <-- anyone seen that error before?
[05:55] <linuxkid2> how do you make it say thinks instead of says?
[05:55] <zOrK> *wise
[05:55] <maryen> why don't you just tell him to install gentoo fastduke
[05:55] <fastduke> blah merge
[05:56] <soulrider> gentoo is more newbie friendly than kubuntu ?
[05:56] <fastduke> just saying
[05:56] <linuxkid2> No way.
[05:56] <linuxkid2> It compiles everything.
[05:56] <fastduke> I use Ubuntu/deb for a reason
[05:56] <fastduke> apt
[05:56] <soulrider> what ubuntu need
[05:56] <Momal> ubuntu is the best tbh
[05:56] <intelikey> apt is ok i guess.
[05:56] <maryen> gentoo is for masochists and ralph nader
[05:56] <soulrider> is what mandriva has thats called net_applet
[05:56] <soulrider> it badly needs it
[05:56] <bobbyz> hey, I have a quick question about jvm's on (k)ubuntu/debian.  I installed sun's jre and jdk, but /usr/bin/java is a link to /etc/alternatives/java which still links to /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java.  I can update the symlinks by hand, but is there a debian/ubuntu-specific way of selecting what jvm /etc/alternatives/java links to?
[05:56] <maryen> you mean network manager soulrider?
[05:57] <soulrider> yea
[05:57] <soulrider> mandirva has this one
[05:57] <soulrider> called net_applet
[05:57] <soulrider> its everything kubuntu needs
[05:57] <maryen> sudo apt-get install kdenetworkmanager
[05:57] <fastduke> gentoo is lame
[05:57] <intelikey> bobbyz man update-alternatives
[05:57] <bobbyz> intelikey: thanks, that sounds like what I'm looking for
[05:57] <linuxkid2> intelikey: so what about my harddrive?
[05:58] <maryen> soulrider: sudo apt-get install kdenetworkmanager theres a network applet
[05:58] <fastduke> Gentoo is fun don't get me wrong
[05:58] <soulrider> maryen: package not found
[05:58] <maryen> i should try gentoo sometime
[05:58] <fastduke> but I use ubuntu at work for a good solid server
[05:58] <maryen> soulrider: enable all of your repositories
[05:58] <soulrider> i have
[05:58] <intelikey> linuxkid2 you need to hit enter about three times until you get to the screen with the "green" highlighting for the partition and then write to disk.
[05:59] <maryen> oh wait
[05:59] <Momal> it might be kdenetwork rather then kdenetworkmanagerrrrrr.....
[05:59] <maryen> its knetworkmanager
[05:59] <maryen> lol
[05:59] <linuxkid2> intelikey: what about the swap? which partition did you mean?
[05:59] <Momal> arr so it is :p
[05:59] <Momal> "knetworkmanager - User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager"
[05:59] <intelikey> it will only highlight one afaik
[05:59] <fastduke>  apt-cache search kdenet
[05:59] <intelikey> but the color changes.
[06:00] <linuxkid2> intelikey: which one do I highlight?
[06:00] <intelikey> doesn't matter it will write all
[06:00] <soulrider> maryen: it snot there
[06:00] <linuxkid2> but there's a huge list of partitions, mostly old ones.
[06:00] <maryen> hmm?
[06:01] <intelikey> try it.  you'll see.   don't be afreid of messing something up you already did that.   so just go ahead and fix it.
[06:01] <linuxkid2> k
[06:01] <maryen> it shows it in the search cache soulrider
[06:01] <maryen> you sure you spelled it right?
[06:02] <soulrider> isnt showing up for me
[06:02] <soulrider> im sure
[06:02] <soulrider> i used
[06:02] <soulrider> apt-cache knet
[06:02] <soulrider> kdenet*
[06:02] <maryen> no
[06:02] <linuxkid2> aptitude search packagename is easy enough
[06:02] <intelikey> i need to get going linuxkid2,  that's kinda why i'm giving you the bum's rush here.
[06:02] <linuxkid2> oh, sorry, thanks for all the help
[06:02] <maryen> soulrider: sudo apt-get install knetworkmanager
[06:02] <intelikey> np hope all goes well for you.
[06:02] <maryen> btw it's kinda buggy atm
[06:02] <soulrider> it cant find that package
[06:02] <linuxkid2> me too
[06:02] <soulrider> i already tried it
[06:03] <intelikey> k gooday all.
[06:03] <soulrider> bye!
[06:03] <maryen> bye intellikey
[06:03] <maryen> the first one i entered was "kde"networkmanager
[06:03] <maryen> which was wrong
[06:03] <maryen> you sure you've tried this one?
[06:04] <soulrider> ok
[06:04] <soulrider> oh
[06:04] <soulrider> knetworkmanager
[06:04] <soulrider> hang on
[06:04] <maryen> ya
[06:04] <soulrider> :)
[06:06] <soulrider> anyone knows if wow has a monthly fee ?
[06:06] <maryen> yes it does
[06:06] <maryen> you are talking about world of warcraft right?
[06:06] <soulrider> yea
[06:06] <soulrider> i wish lineage 2 ran on linux
[06:07] <soulrider> knetworkmanager is nto what i want
[06:08] <maryen> hmm?
[06:08] <maryen> what did you want then?
[06:08] <soulrider> i want a program that can let me monitor/connect/disconnect my eth0 and pppoe connection
[06:08] <maryen> gkrellm?
[06:08] <soulrider> let me try it
[06:09] <maryen> can't disconnect with gkrell, but it does monitor nearly everything on your system
[06:09] <soulrider> i need to eb able to connecta nd disconnect
[06:09] <soulrider> ee
[06:10] <soulrider> heres ht ethng
[06:10] <maryen> knetworkmanager can disconnect eth0
[06:10] <soulrider> i gto a couple of programs that can do that
[06:10] <soulrider> knet
[06:10] <maryen> dunno about your pppoe
[06:10] <soulrider> and rppppoek
[06:10] <soulrider> but
[06:10] <soulrider> if i use them to connect tot he internet
[06:10] <soulrider> even if they connec
[06:10] <soulrider> tmy prgorams wont work
[06:10] <soulrider> as if i were offline
[06:10] <maryen> so you need to restart them?
[06:10] <soulrider> no
[06:11] <soulrider> no wya to make htem work
[06:11] <soulrider> i need to go to the console to connect
[06:11] <soulrider> and in my toher computer
[06:11] <soulrider> i can use knet and rpppoek just fine
[06:11] <soulrider> and everythign works
[06:11] <soulrider> and they are connected the same way tot he internet
[06:11] <soulrider> both were set up by me
[06:11] <soulrider> so i dony knwo whats happening
[06:11] <maryen> install knet then?
[06:12] <soulrider> i did
[06:12] <maryen> and knetdockapp
[06:12] <soulrider> but even if it connects
[06:12] <maryen> to get the applet
[06:12] <soulrider> apps wot work online
[06:12] <fastduke> soulrider, what apps?
[06:12] <soulrider> any apps
[06:12] <soulrider> froma pt to opera
[06:13] <soulrider> apt*
[06:13] <fastduke> and you can ping?
[06:13] <soulrider> no
[06:13] <soulrider> but do
[06:13] <soulrider> ifocnfig
[06:13] <soulrider> and i see its active
[06:13] <soulrider> and i see my IP and everything
[06:14] <fastduke> what does route show
[06:14] <soulrider> im not ont hat computer right now
[06:14] <fastduke> well check to see if you can ping your gateway
[06:15] <soulrider> on this computer i see 5
[06:15] <fastduke> and then check /etc/resolv.conf to see if you are looking at the right DNS servers
[06:15] <soulrider> what happens if i can ping them, and what happens if i cant ?
[06:15] <soulrider> the thing is
[06:15] <soulrider> if i do
[06:15] <soulrider> sudo pon dsl
[06:15] <soulrider> it connects and works
[06:15] <soulrider> but if i use
[06:15] <soulrider> knet or rppppoek it doesnt
[06:16] <soulrider> and im using htme on this computer
[06:16] <soulrider> and they work just fine
[06:16] <fastduke> so your pc has a public IP then
[06:16] <fastduke> you don't have a router?
[06:16] <soulrider> i do
[06:16] <soulrider> but its a POS
[06:16] <InteliWasp> !lineak
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lineak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <soulrider> its not really acting as a router
[06:17] <fastduke> You can purchase a router that will connect to your dsl modem with pppoe
[06:17] <soulrider> mine should be able to
[06:18] <soulrider> i configured it and everything
[06:18] <fastduke> then you can just run a regular eth0 to your router to the gateway
[06:18] <soulrider> but it wont
[06:18] <mini_gamer1896> !edgyeft
[06:18] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:18] <soulrider> and i cant ask my dad to buya  new one
[06:18] <maryen> !gay proprietary nvidia drivers
[06:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gay proprietary nvidia drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:19] <maryen> ya, whatever
[06:19] <soulrider> lol
[06:19] <soulrider> im goign to bed
[06:19] <soulrider> bye bye!!
[06:19] <fastduke> later
[06:24] <linuxkid2> fastduke: what's up?
[06:24] <fastduke> stuff I guess
[06:25] <fastduke> was riding dirt bike today and now I'm messing with the linux box
[06:27] <maryen> brb
[06:27] <linuxkid2> cool
[06:28] <linuxkid2> I was trying to resize parts on another box, was making boot floppy for LiveCD, and accidently copied the floppy image to the hard drive :$
[06:37] <orient2000> !katapult
[06:37] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[06:38] <linuxkid2> katapult's too slow
[06:55] <mini_gamer1896> a question, i upgraded to edgy last night, and my wifi card stopped being recognized (the only net connection for it; it worked fine under drapper).  These error codes show up during boot whenever i have it plugged in """ firmware_helper[2777] : main: error loading '/lib/firmware/acx/default/tiacx100' for device '/class/firmware/0000:02:00.0' with driver 'acx_pci' """ & """ firmware_helper[2751] : m
[06:55] <mini_gamer1896> ain: error loading '/lib/firmware/acx/default/tiacx100c0D' for device '/class/firmware/0000:02:00.0' with driver 'acx_pci' """  Also, there is another error code that pops up whenever i boot (i didn't get this with dapper either): """ [17179592.452000]  piix4_smbus 0000:00:07.3: IBM Laptop detected; this module may corrupt your serial eeprom! Refusing to load module! """
[06:55] <mini_gamer1896> #ubuntu+1 is quiet right now
[06:55] <linuxkid2> this is too
[06:56] <mini_gamer1896> more busy than they are
[07:03] <Momal> could not open default font 'fixed' <-- anyone have quick fix to that error? (I notice it trying to run vncserver)
[07:12] <maryen> katapult isslow????
[07:12] <kerberoz> i dont know
[07:12] <maryen> oh wait, that's text from last night
[07:13] <maryen> well remind me to punish linuxkid2 for uttering it
[07:13] <Ahmuck> i am not getting sound out of amorok
[07:13] <maryen> does everything else play sound?
[07:14] <Momal> ahmuck: check the sound settings in amarok make sure its on your engine in its options :).. provided other things have sound
[07:14] <Ahmuck> system sounds, but no midi either
[07:14] <Ahmuck> k
[07:15] <Ahmuck> ALSA ?
[07:16] <maryen> midi and mp3 dont work out of the box with amarok
[07:16] <maryen> in fact i still dont know how to get amarok to play midi
[07:16] <ccherrett> I am not able to delete files off of my memory stick. Any idea how to snuff them
[07:16] <maryen> format it?
[07:16] <maryen> or do sudo rm -rf on the files
[07:17] <maryen> alsa is the engine you want btw ahmuch
[07:17] <maryen> you need to enable all your repositories and install libxine-extracodecs ahmuck
[07:18] <ccherrett> maryen: rm -rf errors
[07:18] <maryen> ccherrett, your memory stick is mounted in /media on your hd
[07:18] <ccherrett> readonly file system
[07:19] <maryen> hmm
[07:19] <maryen> do you have the stick set to read only?
[07:19] <maryen> if not i would suggest backing up the files you wanna keep and reformatting it with qtparted or gparted
[07:21] <kerberoz> if anybody uses amarok, amarok no working
[07:21] <maryen> there is no luke packages in our repositories
[07:21] <maryen> what have we become
[07:21] <kerberoz> uses xmms
[07:21] <kerberoz> amarok  no working
[07:21] <maryen> hmm whats wrong with your amarok kerberoz?
[07:21] <kerberoz> no play mp3
[07:21] <kerberoz> only xmms
[07:22] <kerberoz> is so wire
[07:22] <maryen> you need to install libxine-extracodecs to make amarok play mp3s
[07:23] <maryen> what you wanna do to do that is type "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" into konsole
[07:23] <poseidon> maryen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo worked for me just now.
[07:24] <ccherrett> rm: cannot remove `/media/sdb1/DCIM/100PENTX/IMGP1321.PEF': Read-only file system
[07:24] <maryen> poseidon: ya i got timidity, but it looks like amarok should be able to play midis too
[07:24] <ccherrett> maryer: that is my error ^^
[07:25] <maryen> ok ccherrett, back up the files you wanna save on the memory stick and then use qtparted to format it
[07:25] <maryen> kerberoze: scan the file that just opened in the terminal and look for any thing that looks like "## deb http...."
[07:26] <maryen> if you see that delete the "##"
[07:26] <maryen> also add multiverse to the end of any line that has universe
[07:26] <kerberoz> ok
[07:26] <kerberoz> i try
[07:27] <maryen> after that, save the file using ctrl+O
[07:27] <maryen> er ctrl+o
[07:27] <maryen> and ctrl+x to exit
[07:28] <kerberoz> maryen where are you from?
[07:28] <maryen> america
[07:28] <maryen> land of the fat
[07:29] <maryen> then enter "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs" into the terminal
[07:29] <maryen> and you can now play mp3s in amarok
[07:29] <maryen> you can also now install java and flash through apt
[07:31] <kerberoz> why parto of america
[07:31] <kerberoz> ?
[07:31] <m4x1mum> what the hell, i couldn;t install java re, it gives me break(install) ??
[07:31] <kerberoz> what part of america?
[07:32] <maryen> texas
[07:32] <abehi> does kubuntu have gcc by default?
[07:32] <maryen> hmm m4x1mum?
[07:33] <maryen> abeshi: "sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:33] <maryen> "
[07:33] <abehi> I'm stuck, I need to compile my lan drivers, so can't aptget it
[07:33] <abehi> why do distros ship without gcc :(
[07:33] <maryen> don't know
[07:33] <maryen> hmm
[07:34] <maryen> here you go abehi
[07:34] <maryen> http://packages.debian.org/stable/devel/gcc
[07:34] <maryen> it should work with dapper
[07:34] <maryen> and may god have mercy on your soul
[07:34] <abehi> heh heh, thx!
[07:35] <m4x1mum> oooooooh crap it takes 79Mb to install java re
[07:35] <maryen> yep
[07:35] <maryen> its big
[07:35] <m4x1mum> no wonder my installation breaks, i dont have the java-bin
[07:35] <m4x1mum> i only download java-re
[07:36] <maryen> do "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin"
[07:36] <maryen> that should get you all the java you should need
[07:36] <maryen> unless you need dev packages
[07:36] <m4x1mum> nah im not doing any java development
[07:37] <m4x1mum> hmmm amarok dont play mp3 by default?
[07:37] <maryen> nope
[07:37] <maryen> need to install libxine-extracodecs to get it working
[07:37] <m4x1mum> aaah no wonder
[07:38] <m4x1mum> i thought its my directory permission problem
[07:38] <maryen> works like a charm after that though
[07:38] <maryen> lol nah
[07:38] <maryen> no distro can have mp3 by default due to legal issues
[07:39] <m4x1mum> oooh
[07:39] <Momal> why can windows then :S
[07:39] <unix_infidel> does (k)ubuntu have a a listing of companies that currently use and have support contracts with ubuntu?
[07:39] <Momal> I guess they paid money
[07:39] <unix_infidel> eg, for servers.
[07:39] <maryen> because ms paid the royalties to the owner of the mp3 format
[07:39] <m4x1mum> windows cannot play mp3
[07:39] <Momal> lol good one m4x
[07:39] <m4x1mum> you still need the software to play it
[07:40] <maryen> :p
[07:40] <maryen> technicalities
[07:40] <m4x1mum> i never use windows media player though
[07:40] <unix_infidel> anyone?
[07:40] <m4x1mum> i always use winamp for that :)
[07:40] <maryen> i dont know unix_infidel
[07:40] <m4x1mum> too bad i cant remove windows media player completely
[07:40] <Momal> I just use amarok screw windows :p
[07:40] <Momal> nothing beats amarok
[07:41] <maryen> removing wmp can actually gimp your system bad
[07:41] <DaSkreech> Paper beats rock
[07:41] <maryen> but linux beats paper?
[07:41] <m4x1mum> lol
[07:41] <Momal> and paper = me... and scissors = linux
[07:41] <Momal> lol
[07:41] <unix_infidel> maryen: so you compress all the wmp binaries :P so they have all the proper dlls available :)
[07:41] <m4x1mum> no dude, linux beats windows
[07:41] <maryen> shhh
[07:41] <Momal> haha
[07:42] <maryen> thats beyond the normal windows users abilities
[07:42] <Momal> linux > * > windows
[07:42] <maryen> linux>unix>OpenBSD>windows
[07:42] <m4x1mum> you left out mac
[07:42] <m4x1mum> :)
[07:43] <maryen> not terribly sure where to put it
[07:43] <maryen> linux>macOSX>...
[07:43] <m4x1mum> the system with one button mouse, they think the user will get confused if there is more than one button on the mouse
[07:44] <maryen> personally, im suprised how slow macs run
[07:44] <Momal> linux > mac > * > dos > win 3.1 > win98 > windows*
[07:44] <m4x1mum> lol
[07:45] <maryen> linux > mac > * > dos > win 3.1 > win98 > windows 95>rock>windows ME
[07:45] <m4x1mum> the list will just get longer
[07:45] <maryen> yes lets stop this
[07:45] <poseidon> don't make it too long, it'll crash my computer!
[07:45] <maryen> lol
[07:45] <maryen> ubuntu>SuSE
[07:46] <Momal> ahahah poseidon must be using windows lol!!
[07:46] <maryen> just on the fact that ubuntu didn't release with a seriously broken package manager
[07:46] <m4x1mum> 16bit windows?
[07:46] <himawan> Joined the room
[07:46] <maryen> *shudders* i remember when my windows 95 would get corrupted and i would have to reinstall it
[07:46] <Momal> anyone use video screen capture pograms underlinux ?
[07:47] <maryen> mythtv is supposed to be good for that
[07:47] <DaSkreech> Wait till Ubuntu starts to use smart :)
[07:47] <maryen> but no
[07:47] <DaSkreech>  /j #kubuntu-devel
[07:47] <maryen> ugh..
[07:47] <maryen> im fine with apt right now thanks
[07:48] <Momal> maryen: ... I mean like I set up what I want it to record and it records my screen like my mouse moving and that
[07:48] <maryen> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[07:48] <maryen> mmmmmmmm
[07:48] <maryen> no idea
[07:48] <maryen> hi himawan
[07:49] <Momal> I tried xvidcap but it just crashes everynow and again and the vnc+vnc2swf... well vncserver wont even start >_<
[07:50] <poseidon> that's a shame..... vnc+school == lots of fun on :5801
[07:50] <maryen> :( my school even blocks the ports needed to get on this channel poseidon
[07:51] <Momal> set up a proxy maryen :D
[07:51] <poseidon> You could probably change the port.... to like 80
[07:51] <maryen> cant
[07:51] <maryen> irc server wont accept a connection from port 80
[07:51] <maryen> momal:  no thanks
[07:51] <poseidon> oh, sorry, I thought you meant vnc. X_X
[07:52] <himawan> hi ...
[07:52] <maryen> hi
[07:52] <maryen> whats up?
[07:52] <Momal> if you set up a proxy on your computer then connected through it via school then connected to irc server/chan :should work.
[07:53] <maryen> i don't have a dedicated server tho
[07:53] <maryen> i should get one from goodwill
[07:53] <m4x1mum> damn i forgot again, where is the packages stored by adept?
[07:53] <maryen> stored?
[07:53] <maryen> you mean your sources list?
[07:54] <m4x1mum> yeah, after the package is downloaded where is it?
[07:54] <maryen> no idea
[07:54] <m4x1mum> no not the list, the actual file
[07:54] <maryen> land of make-believe probably
[07:54] <m4x1mum> huh?
[07:54] <Ahmuck> i think adept updater just locked up
[07:54] <Momal> this is where the debs go /var/cache/apt/archives/
[07:54] <maryen> how so ahmuck
[07:55] <Ahmuck> dpkg finished, and it is just sitting there
[07:55] <poseidon> maryen: It wants me to register...
[07:55] <maryen> what wants you to register
[07:55] <m4x1mum> aaah ok
[07:55] <poseidon> freenode
[07:55] <maryen> and himawan, are you gonna say anything but hi??
[07:55] <maryen> oh
[07:56] <poseidon> maryen: and I got to go to sleep now, anyways
[07:56] <maryen> just do /msg NICKSERV register <password>
[07:56] <poseidon> 'nightness
[07:56] <maryen> then you're registered
[07:56] <maryen> nite
[07:57] <maryen> ahmuck close your apt, then do apt-get update again
[07:57] <maryen> or actually "sudo killall apt-get"
[07:57] <Ahmuck> maryen: ya, i killed it
[07:58] <m4x1mum> man i need to learn the linux file structure
[07:58] <maryen> dont push yourself m4x
[07:58] <Momal> lol
[07:59] <maryen> just enjoy yourself and learn as you go
[07:59] <maryen> guh, no updated packages since this morning
[07:59] <maryen> what are the edgy devs doing
[07:59] <m4x1mum> i feel uncomfortable, i dont know where the files are stored :(, in windows i can even remove some of the virus manually without using anti-virus, cause i know most of the file structure
[07:59] <maryen> i need my package fix
[08:00] <ccherrett> I am trying to install cinepaint but apt can't find it
[08:00] <ccherrett> do I need to specify different repositories?
[08:00] <ccherrett> how does that work?
[08:00] <maryen> whats the error message say
[08:00] <ccherrett> E: Couldn't find package cinepaint
[08:00] <m4x1mum> i have cinepaint in adept
[08:01] <maryen> try apt-cache search cinepaint
[08:01] <ccherrett> do I need to turn on universe
[08:01] <ccherrett> in sources
[08:01] <himawan_22> I have a problem about my sound card..
[08:01] <ccherrett> apt-cache search cinepaint = nothing
[08:01] <maryen> if you are typing the name of the package correctly it would have a different error even if all your repos arent on
[08:01] <maryen> whats up with it himawan
[08:02] <m4x1mum> my adept manager have universe and multiverse added
[08:02] <himawan_22> I use kubuntu, and this system have know about my sound card..
[08:02] <himawan_22> but i can't hear anything from my computer.
[08:02] <maryen> is it refusing to play sound anymore even though it did before?
[08:02] <himawan_22> can you help me??
[08:02] <maryen> not sure
[08:02] <ccherrett> m4x1mum: what are the entries for multiverse?
[08:03] <maryen> did it play sound before?
[08:03] <maryen> bye himawan
[08:03] <maryen> -.-
[08:03] <ccherrett> once you uncomment a line in sources do you need to do anything to apt to get it to read from them?
[08:03] <avuton> How can I tell what's in ubuntu's package repository? (on the web possibly?)
[08:03] <maryen> sudo apt-get update
[08:04] <maryen> avuton: apt-cache search
[08:04] <ccherrett> thanks
[08:04] <ccherrett> ah that worked :)
[08:05] <ccherrett> thanks
[08:05] <maryen> you dont want a list of every package in the repos avuton
[08:05] <maryen> that would be far too much to read
[08:05] <Momal> can you acually list everything? because I tried and it never worked for me
[08:05] <maryen> i dont think so
[08:05] <maryen> adept lists everything
[08:06] <Momal> using * returns nothing and without anything just says give one pattern... thats via apt-cache
[08:06] <avuton> maryen: actually, is there anyway without being in the distro, I'm not a user
[08:06] <maryen> hmm
[08:06] <maryen> possibly
[08:07] <himawan_> left the room
[08:07] <Momal> maybe on the repos website?
[08:07] <maryen> probably
[08:07] <maryen> or typing in the repo server
[08:07] <avuton> I'm sorry, I looked for it, maybe blind, but couldn't find it
[08:08] <maryen> avuton: there are 20k packages available to a person with full ubuntu repos
[08:08] <maryen> you dont really wanna look through that do you?
[08:08] <avuton> Right, there's got to be a way to search for one, to get information on a package, like packages.gentoo.org ...right(?)
[08:09] <maryen> hmm
[08:09] <maryen> using the ubuntu live cd you could
[08:09] <maryen> thats the easiest way i can think of
[08:09] <avuton> maryen: wow, ok, thanks :)
[08:10] <maryen> np
[08:11] <maryen> ok i go watch outlaw star for a sec
[08:11] <maryen> bye
[08:11] <maryen|nerdtasti> eww, nerdtasti?
[08:12] <maryen|nerdjesus> bbl
[08:15] <kerberoz> gracias maryen
[08:15] <kerberoz> thank you maryen
[08:16] <kerberoz> amarok is working
[08:16] <maryen|nerdjesus> np
[08:18] <frankkm> Which codec should I use tp play .ra files in amarok?
[08:18] <m4x1mum> azureus is only version 2.4 in adept?
[08:19] <DaSkreech> m4x1mum: File structure is pretty simple
[08:19] <DaSkreech> m4x1mum: Search for FHS on the net to see the standard
[08:19] <maryen|nerdjesus> w32codecs frankkm
[08:19] <frankkm> okay
[08:21] <m4x1mum> wow i got 3 seconds lag
[08:21] <DaSkreech> Hi wrabbit^
[08:22] <m4x1mum> ok people i've done this sudo mke2fs -j -c /dev/sdb1, so the filestructure should be in ext3 now right?
[08:22] <m4x1mum> no need to do anything else?
[08:22] <wrabbit^> Hey DaSkreech  :) How goes it?
[08:22] <DaSkreech> wrabbit^: Not bad
[08:22] <DaSkreech> Dead tired though
[08:23] <frankkm> It aint playing my ra file, i have installed the w32 codec
[08:23] <wrabbit^> DaSkreech, well yeah.  You seem to be awake 24/7
[08:23] <wrabbit^> :P
[08:23] <DaSkreech> 22/7
[08:23] <maryen|nerdjesus> strange
[08:24] <frankkm> yeah, its really strange
[08:24] <wrabbit^> hehe.... So yeah, after my reinstallation and partitioning yesterday, everything seems to be going quite well.  Didn't bother with automatix this time and installed everything I needed via command.  Took a bit of googling but it was damn easy.
[08:25] <DaSkreech> Yup :-)
[08:25] <maryen> wrabbbit, did you install edgy?
[08:26] <wrabbit^> maryen. Nope, not yet
[08:26] <maryen> you better before i get angry
[08:32] <shriphani> i tried fluxbox
[08:33] <DaSkreech> shriphani: Woot?
[08:34] <shriphani> certainly not what i wanted
[08:34] <shriphani> i would appreciate some clutter as 256 megs ram aint soo small right ?
[08:36] <shriphani> DaSkreech: any other desktop environs ?
[08:36] <DaSkreech> So you want clutter?
[08:36] <shriphani> a slght bit
[08:36] <DaSkreech> shriphani: Fluxbox isn't a Desktop Environ btw
[08:36] <shriphani> yeh
[08:36] <shriphani> just a window manager
[08:37] <DaSkreech> tried E?
[08:37] <shriphani> enlight
[08:37] <shriphani> that one ?
[08:37] <DaSkreech> Yup
[08:38] <shriphani> its good ?
[08:38] <DaSkreech> It's cluttery :)
[08:39] <DaSkreech> If you want to swing it first you can check out elive
[08:39] <shriphani> oh
[08:39] <DaSkreech>  if you just wanna apt-get it then you may want the Seerofsouls repo
[08:39] <shriphani> its a complete desktop environment ?
[08:39] <Momal> anyone know of a good script capture tool for kde... that will record it as video?
[08:40] <word> any ideas why nfs on one computer only would refuse to let people mount it's drive? with 95% certainty on correct config?
[08:40] <DaSkreech> It
[08:40] <method|> shriphani: what's wrong with kde?
[08:40] <DaSkreech> its pretty close
[08:40] <DaSkreech> Momal: Screenkast
[08:41] <shriphani> i wudd like something minimalistic and slightly appealing
[08:41] <orient2000> what should I type in konsole to become superuser?
[08:42] <DaSkreech> orient2000: Sudo su
[08:42] <shriphani> sudo -i ?
[08:42] <orient2000> tks
[08:42] <DaSkreech> sudo -i >_<
[08:42] <DaSkreech> orient2000: Why do you want to run as super user?
[08:43] <m4x1mum> in adept what is request purging for?
[08:43] <word> m4x1mum: deleting everything even config files created by that package
[08:44] <DaSkreech> m4x1mum: It deletes the config files
[08:44] <DaSkreech> And all saved stuff as far as I know?
[08:46] <InteliWasp> anyone have links to window managers/desktop evireoments reviews?
[08:46] <DaSkreech> InteliWasp: They'd all be rubbish :)
[08:47] <DaSkreech> InteliWasp: It's far too subjective
[08:47] <InteliWasp> alright.. then a list then
[08:47] <word> DaSkreech: when you said 'it' were you referring to the computer that doesn't let others mount it?
[08:48] <Momal> is their a repo for screenkast?... seems the deb for it and the other's need all this other stuff but none of it is in adept/apt-get
[08:48] <DaSkreech> word: No I was referring to the fact that I was too tired to notice that I hadn't finished typing out the sentence that I had just formulated in my head and hit enter
[08:48] <DaSkreech> Momal: try seerofsouls
[08:49] <m4x1mum> what the hell this stupid azureus is running in background?!?!?! how to kill it?
[08:49] <DaSkreech> killall azureus
[08:50] <m4x1mum> doesnt work
[08:50] <m4x1mum> i got this error StartSocket: passing startup args to already-running Azureus java process listening on [127.0.0.1: 6880] 
[08:50] <m4x1mum> when i try to run azureus
[08:51] <Linux_Galore> m4x1mum: means you still have azureus running in the background
[08:51] <InteliWasp> the reason i'm asking is that someone was telling me of some enviroment or WM... not sure (was kinda drink :P) that was divided into 3 or 4 windows one of them taking half and the rest as large previews
[08:52] <Linux_Galore> m4x1mum: use ksysguard to kill it
[08:52] <m4x1mum> ps command doesn't show any azureus
[08:52] <ridlohman> hi
[08:53] <maryen> kill java
[08:53] <Linux_Galore> m4x1mum: try sudo ps aux
[08:53] <Hobbsee> !pbuilder
[08:53] <ubotu> pbuilder is a system to easily build packages in a clean chroot environment. To get started with PBuilder, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[08:54] <maryen> that will kill azureus along with it
[08:54] <Linux_Galore> m4x1mum: or sudo ksysguard
[08:54] <Linux_Galore> yeah might be a java process still sitting running
[08:55] <orient2000> I could not open update because dpkg process was interupted and I had to do it manually in a konsole.
[08:55] <maryen> okzy
[08:55] <m4x1mum> this is weird azureus died immediately once i start it :(
[08:56] <Linux_Galore> orient2000:  run adept in a console and read the text and do what it says
[08:56] <m4x1mum> and azureus popup couldn't be closed down
[08:56] <maryen> azureus is... not to good in dapper
[08:56] <word> any ideas why nfs on one computer only would refuse to let people mount it's drive? with 95% certainty on correct config?
[08:56] <m4x1mum> whats a better torrent client?
[08:56] <maryen> ktorrent
[08:56] <word> m4x1mum: azureus :P
[08:56] <word> m4x1mum: you don't have java set up right
[08:56] <maryen> in dapper ktorrent is the best you'll get
[08:56] <Linux_Galore> I have no issues with azureus on kubuntu - dapper
[08:56] <word> maryen: i use azureus just fine...
[08:57] <maryen> bah how so
[08:58] <m4x1mum> i have 2 version of java installed 1.4 and 1.5 strangely the 1.4 is not removed
[08:58] <shriphani> so is gnome or kde better for 256 megs of ra ?
[08:58] <word> like..i click the shortcut...and it opens up...and i add torrents..and it downloads..
[08:58] <orient2000> I did it manually but one of the servers of universe or other is down and I will have to finish it maybe tomorrow.
[08:58] <shriphani> ram ^
[08:58] <Linux_Galore> m4x1mum: because you havent defined you default yet then you have to remove 1.4
[08:58] <maryen> no, how did you setup java to make azureus run properly
[08:58] <martynda> hi, i have installed apache2 and php5 through apt-get, but when i go to a php file, the browser tries to download it, can someone help me out?
[08:58] <orient2000> ok I go to konsole   adept
[08:58] <word> m4x1mum: not that strange...you need to set up java apps to use the newer version..forgot teh command for it
[08:58] <word> maryen: i'll look up the command...
[08:58] <DaSkreech> Momal: how goes?
[08:58] <m4x1mum> ooh i thought adept will automatically remove 1.4 when i install 1.5
[08:58] <Linux_Galore> m4x1mum: nope
[08:58] <maryen> fine, ill try azureus once more
[08:58] <Linux_Galore> m4x1mum: you have to define your new default after you run adept
[08:58] <Momal> DaSkreech: Well I seemed to get it installed now but it keeps saying that I have a vnc running already :S.. when there isn't an process of one
[08:58] <maryen> but then again i like how ktorrent isnt as much of a resource hog
[08:59] <m4x1mum> even in windows utorrent is the best one single exe, very small and it works as good as azureus :)
[09:00] <shriphani> so is gnome or kde better for 256 megs of ram ?
[09:00] <m4x1mum> Linux_Galore: How to define the default?
[09:00] <maryen> xfce is better
[09:00] <shriphani> umm
[09:00] <DaSkreech> shriphani: Recently it seems to be KDE but something lighter is much better
[09:00] <shriphani> i wouldnt like to run qt + gtk
[09:00] <method|> have you tried xfce?
[09:01] <shriphani> nope
[09:01] <word> maryen: m4x1mum: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:01] <word> just select different ones until it works lol..one of em should if you have 1.5 installed..
[09:01] <method|> it's supposedly good for not so super computers
[09:01] <Ash-Fox> I've found firefox runs faster under kde than under xfce (as odd as that sounds)
[09:01] <shriphani> rt. now kde is running ok
[09:01] <shriphani> not too slow
[09:01] <Momal> A VNC server is already running as :1 <-- :S... there is nothing running though
[09:02] <Linux_Galore> m4x1mum: you need to run sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:02] <m4x1mum> i use Opera instead of firefox
[09:02] <Linux_Galore> m4x1mum: define you default java version
[09:02] <shriphani> but ksysguard shows one hell of cpu load
[09:03] <shriphani> i dont want that as a result
[09:03] <m4x1mum> yay azureus finally work, except the warning popup still cannot be closed
[09:03] <orient2000> W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B8 what is it?
[09:04] <shriphani> m4x1mum: so you suggest i get xfce ?
[09:04] <Linux_Galore> m4x1mum: also its not wise to install java in adept because unless you click on the details button you will mis agreeing to the license
[09:04] <DaSkreech> Momal: open VNc and setit to run on :0 ?
[09:04] <word> m4x1mum: that's a bug in gtk I think..either that or one fixed in the cvs versions..i have the latest
[09:04] <DaSkreech> orient2000: You need to import the key for the repo you just added
[09:05] <Linux_Galore> m4x1mum: you only get the warning if you dont properly shut down azureus
[09:05] <Momal> Warning: serverbox:0 is not taken because of /tmp/.X0-lock
[09:05] <Momal> Remove this file if there is no X server serverbox:0
[09:05] <Momal> A VNC server is already running as :0
[09:05] <Momal> safe to remove that file?
[09:05] <orient2000> you mean repository? repo?
[09:05] <word> m4x1mum: hmm...what version of azureus is in the repos?
[09:05] <m4x1mum> ooh
[09:05] <m4x1mum> 2.4....
[09:05] <maryen> thats the same problem i have  with azureus
[09:05] <maryen> and have had in azureus
[09:06] <word> m4x1mum: latest is 2.5.0.1 :P
[09:06] <m4x1mum> thats why i'm a bit confused the repos is outdated??
[09:06] <NameNomad> does anyone know of a good music editor that runs through Linux?  A friend told me about FruityLoops, but besides the fact that it costs money, it doesn't run on linux, so I can't use it.  Anyone know a good program for music editing?
[09:06] <word> maryen: m4x1mum: used to have the same problem a few weeks back but a cvs update fixed it i bet it's fixed in either 2.5 or 2.5.0.1
[09:06] <word> m4x1mum: they usually are
[09:06] <DaSkreech> orient2000: Yes
[09:06] <Linux_Galore> I download azureus from there home page and install it in my home directory
[09:06] <maryen> actually its probably fixed for me since im using edgy
[09:07] <word> maryen: check the version of it
[09:07] <word> maryen: i was told it was a gtk problem but i'm starting to think it was an azureus problem
[09:08] <maryen> now azureus freezes at loading images
[09:08] <maryen> oh well
[09:09] <manjunatha> hello
[09:09] <word> maryen: 'oh well' isn't a very linuxy attitude :P
[09:09] <maryen> :p
[09:09] <maryen> ktorrent fits my needs now
[09:09] <maryen> azureus is dead to me
[09:09] <orient2000> I did not add any new repositories maybe it happened automatickly I have a new one wine and freecontrib where should I get the key and how to appy it?
[09:09] <word> run it in command line and check error output darnit ><
[09:09] <m4x1mum> but ktorrent is not that configurable as azureus
[09:10] <Steven_M> hi all
[09:10] <method|> maryen: why dont you use opera? it has a bittorrent client built in
[09:10] <Ash-Fox> How bloated...
[09:10] <method|> its also the best web browser for linux imo
[09:10] <word> orient2000: don't think those are automatic..but just google them most tuts with repos have the key as well
[09:10] <manjunatha> how to install opera in ubuntu
[09:10] <maryen> because opera doesnt have the nifty extensions firefox has
[09:10] <maryen> there doesnt seem to be an error message
[09:11] <maryen> it just stops loading
[09:11] <Ash-Fox> Google browser sync is one of the best ones in my opinion.
[09:11] <method|> never understood the fixation with firefox's extensions
[09:11] <m4x1mum> manjunatha: download the .deb file from opera website and install it through apt
[09:11] <word> method|: because they're dev team is snotty about being closed source :P
[09:11] <word> their*
[09:11] <manjunatha> tnxs
[09:11] <method|> word: unless you're a developer does it really affect you that much?
[09:11] <Ash-Fox> method|, show me another browser that lets me synchronize between different computers, OSes, and I'll consider it. I can do that with firefox extensions :P
[09:11] <m4x1mum> make sure you download for ubuntu, not other linux distribution
[09:11] <maryen> method|: when opera gets an extension that erases 90% of ads on the web, ill use it
[09:12] <Momal> DaSkreech: could not open default font 'fixed' <-- how do I fix that prob seems the vncserver wont start
[09:12] <method|> Ash-Fox: i can sync with opera
[09:12] <word> well for awhile i was beta testing and developing widgets..still kinda am..but meh
[09:12] <Ash-Fox> method|, really? *starts opera* how?
[09:12] <method|> maryen: opera has a great ad-blocker
[09:12] <word> method|: i'll agree with that one
[09:12] <method|> not as good as firefox's
[09:12] <method|> but it's good
[09:12] <word> no it's actually better in my experience
[09:13] <maryen> method|: im not talking about pop-ups, im talking flash banners, gifs, and all other advertisements
[09:13] <method|> maryen: i am too
[09:13] <m4x1mum> the thing that i dont like about firefox is that you have to install all the extension first to be as good or better than opera
[09:13] <manjunatha> opra can block images but firefox cant
[09:13] <method|> m4x1mum: exactly
[09:13] <maryen> method| i have never seen opera block an ad image
[09:13] <word> adblock can block images...
[09:13] <word> maryen: check teh version number on it..
[09:13] <method|> maryen: i dunno which opera you have used
[09:13] <m4x1mum> both firefox and opera can block image
[09:13] <Ash-Fox> method|, I'm not seeing the synchronisation feature in opera that lets me synchronise between different computers and different operating systems my cookies, bookmarks and stored passwords?
[09:14] <maryen> word: azureus is still frozen
[09:14] <word> maryen: check the darned version number in adept :P
[09:14] <maryen> word: java is quite possibly buggy still on edgy
[09:14] <maryen> word: k
[09:14] <manjunatha> selected blocking is not possible in fox
[09:14] <method|> Ash-Fox: it can sync bookmarks, and wand data, i dont know about cookies and such
[09:14] <Momal> could not open default font 'fixed' <-- anyone know a fix?
[09:14] <word> manjunatha: it isn't? o.O adblock -> block image? not possible?
[09:14] <Ash-Fox> method|, okay, where is the automated synchronising for bookmarks then?
[09:15] <method|> Ash-Fox: file->import...opera bookmarks
[09:15] <word> method|: the wand thing is the only thing i miss from opera
[09:15] <Ash-Fox> that isn't synchronisation, that's importing
[09:15] <method|> you can also import ie or ff imports
[09:15] <method|> Ash-Fox: ok well shoot me
[09:15] <maryen> word: for some reason edgy still uses 2.402
[09:15] <method|> word: wand is the reason why i dont use konqueror
[09:15] <m4x1mum> firefox have similar stuff for wands if i remember correctly
[09:16] <word> maryen: because it hasn't been updated on repos just do yourself a favor and go out and get the newest
[09:16] <method|> firefox is a bit slower imo
[09:16] <m4x1mum> hei my azureus is also frozen lol
[09:16] <Momal> google working for other people at the moment? I think my isp has blocked it lol.. it wont load :S everything else does
[09:16] <method|> slower to load pages, tabs, and to load up in general
[09:16] <Ash-Fox> http://www.google.com/tools/firefox/browsersync/ <- I use it on macosx/linux/windows. Really is the win =)
[09:16] <word> maryen: all ya have to do is mv azureus ~/.azureus sudo ln -s ~/.azureus/azureus /usr/bin/azureus after you uninstall the package
[09:16] <method|> opera feels more lightweight
[09:16] <method|> but it has more stuff
[09:16] <method|> even a smaller download
[09:16] <word> i think irc and email are a bit much :P
[09:17] <Steven_M> have any of you ever used guarddog, a gui for iptables?
[09:17] <method|> word: yeah me too
[09:17] <maryen> method|: i loves my bon echo and nothin you say is gonna change that
[09:17] <method|> i never use opera's irc or email function
[09:17] <word> has anything really changed in bon echo?
[09:17] <method|> but the bittorrent thing is really cool
[09:17] <m4x1mum> i use opera's email though
[09:17] <word> method|: i tried using email until i realized it's really lacking in basic functionality
[09:17] <method|> even tho i dont really do much torrenting
[09:18] <method|> never tried it
[09:18] <method|> i do most of my email thru gmail
[09:18] <word> never...tried..it..?!
[09:18] <maryen> word: its got improved tab browsing, session restore, etc
[09:18] <maryen>  plus its prettier
[09:18] <word> session restore..built in...no memory leaks...?!?!?!?!?
[09:18] <word> !!!!one111eleventy!!
[09:19] <method|> lol
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about one111eleventy!! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <m4x1mum> lol
[09:19] <word> !anything
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <word> eat that
[09:19] <method|> anyone in here using edgy eft?
[09:19] <maryen> me
[09:19] <NameNomad> !musiceditor
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about musiceditor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <maryen> ok 2.5 works but i still loves ktorrent
[09:20] <NameNomad> !music editor
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about music editor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <method|> maryen: are the fonts ugly as sin out the box?
[09:20] <m4x1mum> maryen: lol
[09:20] <method|> like the screenshots i have seen?
[09:20] <maryen> method|: no
[09:20] <m4x1mum> you have said that many times
[09:20] <word> any ideas why nfs on one computer only would refuse to let people mount it's drive? with 95% certainty on correct config?
[09:20] <maryen> they are beautiful
[09:20] <method|> cool
[09:20] <maryen> someone didnt hear me m4x1mum
[09:20] <method|> the screenshots i've seen they look equally as horrible out the box like dapper
[09:20] <Momal> could not open default font 'fixed' <-- anyone know a fix?
[09:21] <method|> i cant remember what i did to make my fonts look nice so i was a bit worried about that
[09:21] <m4x1mum> is there a software to manage the bandwidth for individual software?
[09:21] <word> bandwith or speeds?
[09:22] <maryen> method|: sent you a screenshot
[09:22] <method|> hey anyone know if theres a shell command that with display bandwith usage?
[09:22] <m4x1mum> err like software a can only get maximum of 20kbps for example
[09:22] <method|> maryen: i dont think it connected or something
[09:22] <maryen> you registered?
[09:22] <word> m4x1mum: you talking about controlling azureus?
[09:23] <method|> registered now
[09:23] <method|> try again
[09:23] <m4x1mum> no not just azureus, iwant to controll everything
[09:23] <word> ah no idea there
[09:23] <m4x1mum> opera, irc, azureus
[09:23] <maryen> ok see it now?
[09:23] <method|> yeah it's trying to connect
[09:23] <method|> still no dice it looks like
[09:24] <m4x1mum> ok i've downloaded azureus 2.5, how do i install it?
[09:24] <maryen> http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7729/snapshot1oj7.png
[09:24] <maryen> there
[09:24] <Momal> could not open default font 'fixed' <-- anyone know a fix?
[09:24] <method|> has anyone here ever tried pclinuxos?
[09:24] <maryen> m4x1mum you can run it by clicking the firefox script inside the folder
[09:25] <m4x1mum> i dont have firefox
[09:25] <method|> maryen: looks good
[09:25] <maryen> er azureus script
[09:25] <Steven_M> how do find out what version of samba I've got?
[09:27] <Torched> why would sound sometimes not play on youtube when i'm using kubuntu with firefox?
[09:28] <maryen> flash plugin uses oss which sucks
[09:28] <maryen> go yell at adobe
[09:28] <method|> Torched: it does it for opera too
[09:28] <Torched> why does it happen though?
[09:28] <Torched> i mean it's just sometimes
[09:28] <method|> flash for linux sucks right now im afraid :(
[09:28] <maryen> OSS conflicts with everyother sound system there is
[09:29] <maryen> if you are running anything sound related in linux, flash sound wont play
[09:29] <maryen> to fix this, close firefox
[09:29] <maryen> then go to the konsole and type "killall artsd"
[09:29] <Torched> i opened it in konqueror
[09:29] <maryen> then open firefox and view your flash with sound
[09:29] <Torched> it's working there
[09:30] <maryen> konqueror may be using a oss converter
[09:30] <maryen> dunno
[09:30] <Torched> you don't really know what you're talking about do you
[09:30] <maryen> no i do
[09:30] <maryen> any app using OSS requires exclusive use of the soundcard
[09:31] <Torched> right
[09:31] <Torched> i see
[09:31] <Torched> why does flash do that?
[09:31] <maryen> fceu is one of these apps, but aoss works better with it than flash
[09:31] <maryen> because flash wasn't programmed to use ALSA
[09:31] <Torched> what's salsa?
[09:32] <maryen> Advanced linux sound architecture
[09:32] <method|> [02:30]  <Torched> you don't really know what you're talking about do you
[09:32] <Torched> ohh ok
[09:32] <method|> lol
[09:32] <method|> sorry maryen but that was funny
[09:32] <maryen> lol
[09:33] <maryen> anyway, another way to fix it is to run firefox with aoss firefox, but this makes firefox really unstable
[09:34] <maryen> a new flash version <i>should</i> be coming out next year, and hopefully it wont used the dated OSS
[09:34] <maryen> argh my italics didnt work
[09:34] <method|> didnt know irc had italics
[09:34] <method|> lol
[09:34] <method|> ive been ircing for like 10 years
[09:35] <Torched> apparently it doesnt
[09:35] <method|> %itest%i
[09:35] <method|> 	test	
[09:35] <method|> whoa
[09:35] <Torched> that worked
[09:35] <Torched> no way
[09:35] <method|> well aint that a bitch
[09:35] <maryen> how'd you do that
[09:35] <maryen> i need it for sarcasm
[09:35] <Momal> could not open default font 'fixed' <-- anyone know a fix?
[09:35] <Torched> 	ghah	
[09:35] <method|> lol
[09:35] <Torched> 	it works, it totally works	
[09:36] <maryen> tell me the secret to your witchcraft 0.o
[09:36] <Torched> ctrl i
[09:36] <maryen> 		jsk
[09:36] <Torched> a little trick bill gates taught me
[09:36] <maryen> im using conversation
[09:36] <Torched> me too
[09:36] <Torched> well, konversation
[09:36] <Torched> 	konversation	
[09:36] <maryen> 
[09:37] <Torched> that's not quite it
[09:37] <maryen> eat paragraph marks
[09:37] <maryen> 
[09:37] <Torched> 	NEVER!	
[09:37] <maryen> %i ; ;
[09:37] <maryen> %i ; ; %i
[09:38] <m4x1mum_> what the command to delete a directory ignoring whether if there is a file or not?
[09:38] <maryen> rm -rf
[09:38] <maryen> have fun
[09:38] <maryen> do sudo rm -rf /
[09:39] <m4x1mum_> haha no thanks
[09:39] <maryen> it makes your computer faster tho
[09:42] <Momal> could not open default font 'fixed' <-- anyone know a fix?
[09:43] <maryen> no
[09:44] <abattoir> Momal: X doesnt start? edgy?
[09:44] <maryen> i didn't know mythbusters used kubuntu
[09:44] <Momal> nar X is started... just when im trying to start vncserver
[09:44] <Momal> it returns that error :S
[09:44] <maryen> no wonder they're so smart
[09:45] <m4x1mum_> lol
[09:54] <maryen> no one wants help at 3 in the morning
[09:54] <maryen> who'd have thought
[09:59] <sergey_> help
[09:59] <sergey_> #help
[09:59] <sergey_> how change code page ??
[10:00] <RawSewage> how do you join mulitpart .avi
[10:00] <Momal> could not open default font 'fixed' <-- anyone?!?!
[10:00] <maryen> multipart.avi?
[10:00] <RawSewage> yes, an  avi split into  avi.001   avi.002  etc
[10:01] <Momal> he is asking to join avi files together
[10:01] <maryen> hmm
[10:01] <maryen> i don't know, i bet fdoving would though
[10:01] <maryen> but hes sleeping
[10:01] <maryen> or is he...
[10:02] <frankkm> I just downloaded a rpm file how do I get it installed?
[10:02] <maryen> alien
[10:02] <afd_> hi! Is there a "automatically save view profile for folder"? What I'm trying to achieve is that when I change the view mode for a folder, this view mode will be used for this folder from now on
[10:02] <afd_> Windows Explorer and Nautilus have this option
[10:02] <maryen> i wouldn't suggest it though, it can mess up your install
[10:02] <frankkm> ok
[10:02] <method|> frankkm: unless you're using pclinuxos, fedora, redhat, or some other rpm based distro i have no clue
[10:03] <maryen> alien allows debian users to use rpm packages
[10:03] <frankkm> I use kubuntu
[10:03] <maryen> but its very beta
[10:03] <maryen> if you wanna try it though, "sudo apt-get install alien
[10:03] <method|> frankkm: if you're looking for a kde based rpm distro i'd suggest pclinuxos
[10:04] <method|> it's every bit as good as kubuntu
[10:04] <method|> and a bit better in other ways
[10:04] <frankkm> ok
[10:04] <maryen> afd_ try closing all instances of konqueror after applying the view mode to the folder
[10:05] <afd_> maryen: I did, didn't work. This sucks :(
[10:07] <afd_> maryen: I supose a .desktop file could get konqueror to list the folder in a different way. I wonder where to get my hands on this information (and why this option isn't in default kde)
[10:08] <maryen> hmm im not sure afd_
[10:08] <maryen> tell me if you find anything out
[10:09] <afd_> maryen: ok
[10:09] <maryen> method|: you're not supposed to move people away from kubuntu :p
[10:09] <maryen> the ops oughta spank you good
[10:11] <maryen> bah, still can't install nvidia drivers on my comp
[10:11] <method|> maryen: i used kubuntu
[10:12] <method|> pclinuxos is like the rpm based version of kubuntu heh
[10:12] <maryen> rpm is the devil though
[10:12] <maryen> well not really
[10:12] <method|> maryen: in pclinuxos to install nvidia drivers all you have to do is install the package and restart X :P
[10:12] <maryen> just everything is alot more spread out
[10:12] <maryen> in edgy the nvidia-glx package is still broken
[10:13] <maryen> they needa update some of the dependencies
[10:13] <maryen> not to mention, it doesn't play nice with the general kernel and tries to force me onto 386
[10:14] <llogiq> Hi there.
[10:14] <maryen> hi
[10:14] <maryen> one of us is a cannibal, guess which and get a prize
[10:14] <whiz2> I'm trying to use Amarok to play .ogg and mp3 files, but I keep getting an error message that says "No suitable input plugin. This often means that the url's protocol is not supported. Network failures are other possible causes."
[10:15] <maryen> hmm
[10:15] <ubuntu_> moo?
[10:15] <maryen> moo
[10:16] <ubuntu_> just checking :)
[10:16] <Moo_> .
[10:16] <maryen> try apt-get remove amarok --purge and then a reinstall
[10:16] <ubuntu_> o someones nickname is moo
[10:16] <Moo_> :P
[10:16] <maryen> shall we worship him?
[10:16] <ubuntu_> yes!
[10:17] <maryen> ew
[10:17] <llogiq> whiz2: The usual KUbuntu distribution does not have mp3 codecs for legal reasons.
[10:17] <maryen> he cant play ogg either
[10:17] <llogiq> Hmmm...then a reinstall might do the trick...
[10:17] <whiz2> ogg plays fine in Kaffeine
[10:18] <maryen> try wiping and reinstalling amarok then
[10:18] <maryen> and make sure to remember the purge tag
[10:18] <Momal> anyone able to run vncserver under kubuntu ?
[10:18] <maryen> im not to fond of servers, or the internets
[10:19] <whiz2> ok and where do I get mp3 codecs?
[10:19] <maryen> too*
[10:19] <maryen> you have to enable the multiverse repos
[10:19] <whiz2> everything is enabled I think
[10:19] <maryen> then do apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[10:20] <maryen> question whiz2
[10:20] <method|> how do you enable the multiverse and universe in adept?
[10:20] <maryen> do you recognize the word multiverse
[10:21] <method|> im used to synaptic
[10:21] <ubunt_> i run dapper on vmware player and the highest resolution that i can choose in preferences is 1024.786, but i need 1280x1024.
[10:21] <whiz2> I recognize the word, yes, but dunno it's meaning in kubuntu
[10:21] <maryen> uncomment the universe lines in the sources list, and add multiverse to the end of every line that has universe in it
[10:22] <whiz2> I got my copy of sources.list from a friend who had everything already enabled, so I don't need to worry about it
[10:22] <maryen> ok then you should be fine
[10:22] <maryen> sorta
[10:22] <whiz2> he got all the new repositories too
[10:22] <maryen> you really need to learn to alter your sources list tho
[10:22] <whiz2> also added multiverse to the end of every repository line
[10:23] <whiz2> I'm a noob to Linux. he made it simple for me. I'm learning little by little
[10:23] <method|> where's sources.list again?
[10:23] <whiz2> /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:23] <maryen> nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:24] <whiz2> apt-get says "amrok is already the newest version. 0upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove, and 0 not upgraded"
[10:25] <maryen> whiz
[10:25] <whiz2> Yes?
[10:25] <maryen> do "sudo apt-get remove amarok --purge"
[10:25] <llogiq> I got a problem with wlan on my Averatec 3156. It has a Intersil/Prism2.5 USB chipset. I tried the installation instructions on the german wiki.ubuntuusers.de, but to no avail (It seems the drivers compile against 2.4 kernels). I also found instructions on http://chronox.de/averatec_linux/linux_on_3156X.html
[10:25] <llogiq> that should work for debian on this subnote. The prism2_usb drivers in /lib/modules do not appear to work, iwconfig says nothing.
[10:25] <maryen> then "sudo apt-get clean"
[10:25] <maryen> then "sudo apt-get install amarok"
[10:26] <whiz2> Thank you. whoever gave me the command a moment ago, gave me the wrong one
[10:26] <maryen> llogiq: ndiswrapper a no-go?
[10:26] <method|> you guys said uncomment all the lines with universe in them and add multiverse?
[10:26] <maryen> yes
[10:27] <maryen> add multiverse to any line with universe, and uncomment all repositories
[10:27] <llogiq> maryen: Haven't tried yet, as the docs said that the intersil drivers should work.
[10:27] <maryen> hmm
[10:27] <Momal> does anyone know a fix: could not open default font 'fixed' ? (error from vncserver)
[10:28] <maryen> momal, have you searched in the repos for the font "fixed"?
[10:28] <Momal> yup
[10:29] <Momal> Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, removing from list!
[10:29] <Momal> Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from list!
[10:29] <Momal> Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from list!
[10:29] <Momal> Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list!
[10:29] <Momal> Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, removing from list!
[10:29] <Momal> Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list!
[10:29] <Momal> Fatal server error:
[10:29] <Momal> could not open default font 'fixed'
[10:29] <Momal> thats what vncserver is saying.. those paths exist and are working fine
[10:29] <fdoving> !pastebin
[10:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:29] <whiz2> Thanks for helping me to repair Amarok
[10:29] <maryen> agh! its fdoving, hide!
[10:30] <fdoving> Momal: do you have the 'xfonts-base' package installed?
[10:30] <Momal> yup
[10:30] <maryen|hiding> maybe try wiping them?
[10:30] <Momal> according to good the fixed font has to do with the alias file in the misc folder and its there :S
[10:31] <maryen|hiding> guh, i should of been in bed an hour ago
[10:32] <fdoving> Momal: try running 'fc-cache -f' from konsole (kmenu -> system -> konsole)
[10:32] <maryen|hiding> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25947/
[10:33] <maryen|hiding> hmm pastebin would be useful for posting example sources.list files
[10:33] <Momal> yea tried that from a site on net didn't work.. just tried it again and still same error
[10:34] <whiz2> Thank you. Amarok is working, and MP3s are now enabled. :-)
[10:34] <maryen|hiding> np whiz2
[10:36] <maryen|hiding> hey fdoving, know how to get an nvidia card running on a dual-core comp using edgy eft?
[10:37] <fdoving> no. i'm blessed with just old enought ati cards to get DRI by default. :)
[10:37] <fdoving> !nvidia
[10:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:37] <maryen|hiding> lol lucky ; ;
[10:37] <fdoving> is the only help i can give.
[10:37] <maryen|hiding> bah tried that already
[10:37] <maryen|hiding> the new "general" kernel is a PITA
[10:38] <Momal> :(... how can you get an error when there shouldn't be any error garrr
[10:38] <maryen|hiding> sudo apt-get remove linux
[10:38] <maryen|hiding> goodnight
[10:38] <Momal> lol?
[10:43] <Momal> garr this makes no sense >_<
[10:44] <rittap> goodmorning
[10:46] <bioticpro> How can I mount dvd.iso file on HD, so it can be played or ripped?
[10:46] <maurizio> easy kubuntu
[10:47] <maurizio> link per scaricare easy kubuntu
[10:47] <fdoving> !easyubuntu
[10:47] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[10:47] <fdoving> !iso > bioticpro
[10:48] <rittap> I installed kubuntu to my hard drive and now I get a read error when loading grub, can someone help me?
[10:48] <bioticpro> fdoving: thx :)
[10:49] <stephen_> b
[10:51] <rittap> I installed kubuntu to my hard drive and now I get a read error when loading grub, can someone help me?
[10:54] <satempler> rittap: wait till your question goes off screen to ask again
[10:54] <satempler> what error btw
[10:54] <Steven_M> does anyone here use guarddog, I really need help?
[10:56] <fdoving> rittap: try this: http://adrian15.raulete.net/grub/tiki-index.php
[10:56] <Steven_M> does anyone here use guarddog, I really need help?
[10:56] <rittap> @satempler sorry :) but I didnt see anything except loading Grub, read error
[10:56] <fdoving> Steven_M: what do you need.
[10:56] <fdoving> ?
[10:57] <satempler> rittap: so what just says Grub and thats it
[10:58] <rittap> satempler: jup, it doesnt do anything else
[10:58] <rittap> satempler: and its a clean install
[10:58] <satempler> rittap: how many harddrive you have in the system and, are you dual booting
[10:59] <rittap> satempler: I have 2 harddrives (1 IDE 1 SATA) the IDE is the linux HD, and is first in boot order
[11:00] <Steven_M> fdoving:  I did a to know how to get guarddog to allow apsolutely everthing from a nominated ip address
[11:00] <satempler> rittap: you sure ok do the install again but before the last step in installing it will have a review and what you need to make sure is that grub is on hd0,0
[11:00] <rittap> satempler: I installed from LIVE Cd
[11:00] <satempler> rittap: thats the easyest way i know how
[11:00] <satempler> ok
[11:01] <rittap> satempler: so I dont see any grub configurations
[11:01] <satempler> you won't
[11:01] <Steven_M> fdoving: stet did=need
[11:01] <satempler> it will assume the default
[11:01] <satempler> but the last screen will display a summary just before install
[11:02] <satempler> there you should be able to change the boot drive
[11:02] <rittap> satempler: I will try it, and report back later
[11:02] <rittap> satempler: thanks!
[11:02] <satempler> rittap: no problem and remember ask once wait till it goes off screen
[11:03] <rittap> satempler: lol will do :P
[11:03] <satempler> some times there is 5 people all helping 4 people each
[11:03] <satempler> so it takes time
[11:03] <satempler> ;)
[11:03] <Steven_M> fdoving: do you use guarddog yourself?
[11:06] <kraut> moin
[11:10] <DHGE> rittap: when booting press e
[11:10] <DHGE> edit (hd0,1)
[11:10] <DHGE> to something like (hd1,1)
[11:10] <DHGE> or opposite ...
[11:10] <rittap> DHGE: I know about the e, only it wont come that far...
[11:11] <DHGE> boot sector protection in BIOS?
[11:11] <rittap> DHGE: It just says Loading Grub, Read error
[11:11] <rittap> DHGE: Havent heard about it! Will check also
[11:12] <DHGE> boot from the live CD and look into your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:13] <DHGE> man grub    to reinstall
[11:13] <rittap> DHGE: will do after install is done
[11:14] <DHGE> rittap: WAIT   SATA is not THAT fast on cold start   do a reset (warm start)
[11:15] <rittap> DHGE: have already tried
[11:15] <rittap> DHGE: also removed anything from boot order except linux HD (which is IDE)
[11:16] <rittap> DHGE: no change
[11:16] <DHGE> disconnect the SATA to see if it is a BIOS problem ...
[11:16] <rittap> DHGE: it isnt
[11:17] <rittap> DHGE: tried that already
[11:17] <DHGE> mainboard?
[11:17] <rittap> DHGE: It cant be the mainboard or such (it highly unlikely) will probably just be grub
[11:18] <DHGE> highly unlikely
[11:18] <rittap> DHGE: wait, that isn't correct english :)
[11:18] <DHGE> hehe ..
[11:19] <rittap> DHGE: you get the picture
[11:19] <rittap> :)
[11:29] <josh_> how do i enable the numlock key being active at startup?
[11:29] <rittap> josh_: it's an option in the system settings
[11:29] <zorglu_> josh_: somewhere in 'system setting' .. not precise but it is there
[11:30] <zorglu_> rittap is as precise as me :)
[11:30] <rittap> josh_: try keyboard
[11:30] <rittap> it has an option named ' Numlock on KDE startup'
[11:30] <josh_> well that was easy
[11:30] <josh_> lol
[11:30] <rittap> josh_: ur welcome ;)
[11:30] <josh_> ty :)
[11:31] <josh_> how do i share my drive?
[11:31] <josh_> i tried to but it gave me some error about only being able to share folders in my home directory...
[11:31] <josh_> and im not net sharing this folder
[11:32] <rittap> josh_: see there's where my linux knowledge runs out :)
[11:32] <josh_> thats what the ftp is for lol
[11:32] <josh_> lol rit
[11:32] <rittap> zorglu_: maybe you have an idea for josh_
[11:33] <zorglu_> thinking :)
[11:33] <zorglu_> what is the protocol you use to share this folder ?
[11:33] <josh_> samba
[11:33] <josh_> its for the wifes winblows box
[11:33] <josh_> and her mac
[11:33] <rittap> josh_: is the samba deamon running :)
[11:33] <josh_> yep
[11:33] <zorglu_> !samba
[11:33] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:33] <josh_> i just cant authenticate
[11:34] <zorglu_> is the max of the idea i got :)
[11:34] <zorglu_> using a tool to configure it would be my advice
[11:36] <zorglu_> btw linux should have a tool for setting this up via zeroconf and no password
[11:36] <zorglu_> it is the 'dentist case' and all the people who came here to config samba were in this case
[11:36] <rittap> zorglu_ & josh_ : which is, again, in the system settings :)
[11:37] <rittap> Or at least i thought i was
[11:37] <zorglu_> but system setting got weird trouble for me
[11:37] <zorglu_> when i enter in 'admin mode' to modify stuff, it keep the option all greyed out
[11:37] <rittap> zorglu_: yeah, tell me about it :)
[11:38] <zorglu_> oh so im not the only one :)
[11:38] <josh_> Command '/usr/share/avahi/enable_avahi 1' not found.
[11:38] <rittap> !avahi
[11:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avahi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:38] <rittap> hmm
[11:38] <zorglu_> try install 'avahi-utils'
[11:39] <zorglu_> it is a zeroconf deamon
[11:39] <rittap> ah I see :)
[11:39] <zorglu_> !info avahi-utils
[11:39] <ubotu> avahi-utils: Avahi browsing, publishing and discovery utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.10-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 32 kB, installed size 140 kB
[11:39] <rittap> !info avahi > rittap
[11:39] <ubotu> Package avahi does not exist in any distro I know
[11:39] <zorglu_> there are a bunch of package, i dunno what are their respective purpose
[11:40] <rittap> ah well
[11:40] <rittap> I hate bots anyway :)
[11:41] <zorglu_> !info *avahi*
[11:41] <ubotu> Package avahi does not exist in any distro I know
[11:41] <zorglu_> ok globbing doesnt work
[11:43] <rittap> zorglu_: you know anything about grub?
[11:43] <zorglu_> basic knowledge to get mine working with multiple linux
[11:44] <zorglu_> what is your question
[11:44] <rittap> I installed kubuntu 6.06 to my IDE HD, and it gives a read error when loading grub
[11:44] <zorglu_> i cant believe xine doesnt implement http source properly
[11:44] <rittap> right after a clean install
[11:44] <zorglu_> is there a window on the box
[11:45] <rittap> jup, SATA HD
[11:45] <zorglu_> is the livecd was able to read the hd right ?
[11:45] <rittap> jup
[11:45] <rittap> both
[11:45] <rittap> I have them both mounted atm (i am working on livecd)
[11:46] <zorglu_> hmm i dunno what is a SATA hd
[11:46] <zorglu_> i know this is a 'new' norme but no more
[11:46] <zorglu_> are they special, like requiring another driver ?
[11:46] <rittap> dunno really
[11:46] <damian> don't worry guys
[11:46] <rittap> Serial ATA, and linux sees it as /dev/sda
[11:47] <damian> windows vista is coming soon
[11:47] <damian> then you can all stop using linyx
[11:47] <Elgfar> Yea right...
[11:47] <rittap> damian: ugh that's straightforward
[11:47] <rittap> damian: so you really believe that M$ is critical bug proof this time
[11:48] <rittap> damian: then go dream along
[11:48] <Elgfar> If i'm migrating from Linux - it will be to a *BSD platform
[11:48] <zorglu_> damian: ok please take this discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:48] <zorglu_> and please ALL dont feed him
[11:48] <rittap> zorglu_: LOL :)
[11:48] <damian> zorglu haha i get it don't feed the troll never *ever* heard that one before
[11:49] <zorglu_> rittap: hard you using raid ?
[11:49] <zorglu_> hard=are
[11:49] <rittap> zorglu_: nope
[11:49] <rittap> zorglu_: definitely not
[11:50] <rittap> maybe you want to take a look on the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:50] <rittap> wait i'll send you the file!
[11:50] <zorglu_> yep the one from the installed partition
[11:50] <zorglu_> use pastebin
[11:50] <zorglu_> !pastebin
[11:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:51] <zorglu_> this one is rather slow, we should put a faster one in there
[11:51] <freeflying> anyone here use da_DK as default locale? thanks
[11:51] <rittap> oh i was thinking to just send the file over
[11:52] <rittap> but if you want pastebin
[11:52] <zorglu_> via dcc ? i dont even know if we can
[11:52] <Martijn81> freeflying: nope, NL here, why?
[11:52] <rittap> zorglu_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25954/
[11:53] <freeflying> Martijn81: need someone reproduce a bug
[11:53] <pointwood> anyone know how to get konqueror to keep the bookmarks toolbar hidden? It seems, every time I reboot, konqy shows the bookmarks toolbar again :(
[11:54] <zorglu_> rittap: see it doesnt start. gessing some nat/firewall issue
[11:54] <rittap> zorglu_: was worth the try
[11:54] <zorglu_> rittap: yep :)
[11:54] <rittap> zorglu_: ah well you have the link anyways
[11:55] <zorglu_> rittap: using "df" can you give me the line for the root of the installed system
[11:55] <rittap> !df
[11:55] <ubotu> Graphical representations of where your disk-space is being used are: baobab (GNOME), filelight / kinfocenter (Kubuntu). On the terminal: df -h -T
[11:55] <zorglu_> rittap: or simpler, type "df" in a terminal and paste the output in pastebin
[11:56] <rittap> zorglu_: lol i just had the line hang on
[11:56] <zorglu_> ok
[11:56] <rittap> zorglu_: please note that i am running live cd
[11:56] <rittap> zorglu_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25955/
[11:57] <rittap> zorglu_: /dev/hda1 is the /
[11:57] <zorglu_> as faster pastebin there is pastebin.ulteo.us or pastebin.ca
[11:57] <zorglu_> hmm it is /dev/hda1
[11:57] <zorglu_> like in the grub
[11:58] <zorglu_> i was wondering because me googling seems to show that other use /dev/sda1 for SATA
[11:58] <abelh> buenos dias
[11:58] <zorglu_> !es
[11:58] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:58] <rittap> zorglu_: hold, SATA drive is windows, IDE is linux
[11:58] <abelh> gracias
[11:59] <zorglu_> rittap: what do you mean ?
[11:59] <zorglu_> rittap: you got 2 disk ?
[11:59] <abelh> #ubuntu-es
[11:59] <rittap> zorglu_: I got 2 disks, 1 SATA which is for windows, 1 IDE which is for linux
[12:00] <rittap> zorglu_: SATA drive is in linux device /dev/sda, IDE drive is /dev/hda
[12:00] <zorglu_> abelh: type "/joint #ubuntu-es"
[12:00] <DHGE> rittap: uncomment the maps
[12:00] <DHGE> eh comment
[12:01] <rittap> DHGE: sorry?
[12:01] <zorglu_> he mean at the end of the menu.lst
[12:01] <DHGE> sata is 0
[12:01] <DHGE> rittap: put a "#" before the map lines ...
[12:01] <zorglu_> DHGE: you think that the chainloader could prevent linux from booting ?
[12:01] <rittap> DHGE: done
[12:01] <DHGE> no
[12:02] <rittap> DHGE: should i reboot ;)
[12:02] <DHGE> what else? ;-)
[12:02] <zorglu_> DHGE: can you explain the 'comment the map line' thing ?
[12:02] <rittap> DHGE: yeah!
[12:02] <rittap> DHGE: i will reboot!! :)
[12:02] <rittap> see ya in a bit!
[12:02] <DHGE> it reverses the sequence in which grub sees the HDs
[12:16] <rittap> zorglu_ & DHGE: back
[12:16] <rittap> still no go
[12:17] <rittap> DHGE: what bios option did you say I should check?
[12:27] <silver_hook> Hi! I've got a sliiiiight problem - I'm a Gentoo user, but need to know how to install Kopete (0.12.1 or .2) on Kubuntu via Adept. Can anyone explain this to me? I need it to complete an article for TUX
[12:28] <zorglu_> 1. launch adept
[12:28] <zorglu_> 2. type 'kopete' in the search box
[12:28] <zorglu_> 3. select the kopete package, right click to get the pop up menu
[12:28] <zorglu_> 4. select install in the popup menu
[12:29] <zorglu_> 5. select apply change
[12:29] <silver_hook> thanks :)
[12:29] <fdoving> !info kopete dapper
[12:29] <ubotu> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6.2 (dapper), package size 5068 kB, installed size 16980 kB
[12:29] <zorglu_> and it will download and install kopete
[12:29] <silver_hook> btw, is 0.12.1 (or later) in kopete anyway?
[12:29] <fdoving> i doubt that, if you're running dapper.
[12:29] <Martijn81> 6. don't forget to get yourself a cup of coffee
[12:29] <TheGateKeeper> silver_hook: kopete comes with kubuntu lol
[12:30] <zorglu_> i got 0.11.1 installed
[12:30] <silver_hook> TheGateKeeper: yes, but the MUC support in Jabber is only really usable since 0.12.1 :S
[12:30] <zorglu_> i think 0.12 is in backport
[12:30] <silver_hook> zorglu_: backport?
[12:31] <zorglu_> silver_hook: a repository for the stuff which have been declared stable enought to go into dapper (the stable version)
[12:31] <zorglu_> edgy being de dev one
[12:32] <zorglu_> so it go into edgy and then into dapper
[12:32] <zorglu_> btw im not expert at those stuff, better ask on #kubuntu-devel for authoritative answer about the release process
[12:32] <silver_hook> zorglu_: so, the steps are the same only selecting "edgy" where?
[12:33] <zorglu_> silver_hook: i dont understand your quesiton, can you rephrase ?
[12:33] <TheGateKeeper> edge is the next version of kubuntu to be released at the end of the month
[12:34] <silver_hook> zorglu_: the thing is that the Kopete version to be installed *needs* to be at least 0.12.1
[12:34] <zorglu_> ah okf
[12:34] <zorglu_> ok then 1. make sure that kopete 0.12.1 is actually in backports
[12:35] <Martijn81> zorglu_: from apt-cache policy here it looks like 0.12.1 is in http://kubuntu.org dapper/main Packages
[12:35] <zorglu_> so i was wrong...
[12:35] <zorglu_> how come i only got 0.11.1 then...
[12:35] <patrick__> Octan - Do you know an alternative to M$ its ActiveSync program?
[12:35] <Martijn81> dunno
[12:35] <patrick__> Or anybody else :P
[12:36] <llogiq> ndiswrapper doesn't seem to work, :-( Maybe a reboot will do it... cu then.
[12:36] <fdoving> patrick__: multisync maybe?
[12:36] <patrick__> k
[12:37] <Martijn81> zorglu_: probably because i have kde 3.5.4 installed
[12:37] <silver_hook> Martijn81: sooo, I just follow those 5-6 steps above and it will be 0.12.1+?
[12:38] <zorglu_> Martijn81: yep, i just checked and 0.11.1 is the last available for me... but 3.5.4 is in main ?
[12:38] <TheGateKeeper> silver_hook: if it's the repos that you are using
[12:38] <Martijn81> no it's not, afaik
[12:39] <Jucato> octan: hi! are you there? :)
[12:39] <silver_hook> ok, i'm lost now
[12:39] <zorglu_> Martijn81: something is wrong :)
[12:39] <zorglu_> silver_hook: ok the step i gave at the begining are good in anycase. now the point is to setup the repository to get this particular version of kopete
[12:40] <TheGateKeeper> silver_hook: well both me & zorglu_have the earlier version, if there was a latter version in the repos we would have had the updates
[12:40] <zorglu_> TheGateKeeper: can you identify where is kopete 0.12.1
[12:41] <Jucato> zorglu_: not on Dapper, I'm afraid
[12:41] <zorglu_> Jucato: is it in backport ? or in edgy ?
[12:41] <Jucato> zorglu_: edgy only. didn't hit dapper-backports yet
[12:42] <TheGateKeeper> zorglu_:   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190273
[12:42] <patrick__> I need a little help on partition probs. I have apr.17GB on the hdd that is not used, but with qparted and things like that I cant seem to give my ubuntu the extra space... (It's 80GB total, 40 for windows and 2x17GB where 1x17 is for Kubuntu...) Any ideas?
[12:43] <zorglu_> silver_hook: ok so you got 2 possibilties, either you update to edgy, but this implies a whole lot of other unstable package too, or you use an 'unofficial deb' from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190273
[12:43] <Martijn81> zorglu_: yeah my version is because of kde 3.5.4, i should've put my glasses on earlier...
[12:43] <TheGateKeeper> silver_hook: you do know that adept is just a gui for apt-get which uses the repos in /etc/sources.list??
[12:43] <zorglu_> silver_hook: currently 0.12.1 is not available officially for dapper (stable version). it is only available for edgy
[12:44] <silver_hook> yes, i understand so far ...like synaptic and yum were before
[12:44] <Jucato> zorglu_: actually 0.12.1 is available on Dapper. 0.12.2 is not. my mistake
[12:44] <zorglu_> silver_hook: or some people made a dapper compatible package themselves and made it available. but it is not 'official'
[12:44] <zorglu_> maouaouaoua :)
[12:44] <Jucato> sorry :(
[12:44] <zorglu_> silver_hook: so erase all that :)
[12:45] <zorglu_> Jucato: how come i dont get it via apt-get then ?
[12:45] <TheGateKeeper> silver_hook: I still use synaptic with kubuntu as I don't really like adept
[12:45] <Jucato> Kopete 0.12.1 is with the Kubuntu KDE 3.5.4 packages
[12:45] <Martijn81> yep
[12:45] <zorglu_> Jucato: kde 3.5.4 is not in main, no ?
[12:45] <Jucato> just add the kubuntu.org repository for kde 3.5.4
[12:45] <zorglu_> i mean is this 'in dapper' ?
[12:45] <Jucato> zorglu_: no. KDE updates are not put in main
[12:46] <Jucato> zorglu_: no, there is KDE 3.5.4 for Dapper available
[12:46] <Ash-Fox> Or you can use http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kopete/ with the current stable
[12:46] <zorglu_> ok so lets summarize for silver_hook
[12:46] <zorglu_> silver_hook: still here ?
[12:46] <Jucato> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[12:46] <Martijn81> Jucato: where have you learned to type so lightning fast....
[12:47] <Jucato> hm.. in High School actually :)
[12:47] <silver_hook> zorglu_: yea, but getting more and more confuzed
[12:47] <zorglu_> silver_hook: dont worry i will summarize
[12:47] <zorglu_> silver_hook: ok the 5 step to get kopete from adept remain good. you still got them ?
[12:48] <TheGateKeeper> silver_hook: your a gentoo person this should be childs play to you :-)
[12:48] <zorglu_> Martijn81: you can practice typing with exercice , it works real well
[12:49] <silver_hook> zorglu_: i do, yea
[12:49] <silver_hook> TheGateKeeper: it's not a problem for me to do - I've been using Debian and Slackware in my lifetime as well :P
[12:50] <zorglu_> silver_hook: ok, you understand what repositories are ?
[12:50] <silver_hook> TheGateKeeper: the problem is putting this as coherently and siple as possible in an article for TUX magazine :S
[12:50] <silver_hook> zorglu_: yup
[12:50] <Martijn81> zorglu_: yeah i should do that, i have a good keyboard (happy hacking lite2) for it as well :)
[12:51] <zorglu_> silver_hook: ok by default the kopete version available in dapper is 0.11.1 . to get the 0.12.1 you need to enable the kde-354 repository as it is explained in http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[12:51] <Ash-Fox> or you can just update kopete by itself from http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kopete/
[12:52] <zorglu_> silver_hook: 1. you enable the kde 3.5.4 repository 2. you update the apt-get cache via "fetch update" in adept 3. you do the 5steps given earlier
[12:52] <Jucato> Ash-Fox: it would probably work if and only if the new Kopete will work with pre-KDE 3.5.4 libs
[12:52] <silver_hook> zorglu_: ok, thnks :)
[12:53] <Ash-Fox> Jucato, it worked for me, although it's version 0.12.0
[12:53] <zorglu_> silver_hook: does this answer your question ? any other ?
[12:53] <silver_hook> zorglu_: i think it does - i'll just have to look at the bit how to add the repersitory (in a GUI) etc. :P
[12:53] <silver_hook> but yea, thanks :)
[12:53] <zorglu_> silver_hook: cool :)
[12:54] <TheGateKeeper> silver_hook: would it not be safer using the cli & leaving adept out of it?
[12:54] <gya> i need webcam record
[12:54] <Jucato> Ash-Fox: that couldwork :)
[12:54] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: how come?
[12:54] <silver_hook> TheGateKeeper: cli?
[12:55] <zorglu_> guys dont confuse him again :)
[12:55] <TheGateKeeper> silver_hook: yep just tell them to open up consol and do the following commands...
[12:55] <Jucato> silver_hook: CLI = Command Line Interface
[12:55] <silver_hook> if you ask me ...i'd probably do it with apt-get :P
[12:55] <silver_hook> oh, well ...that, yea
[12:55] <TheGateKeeper> konsol*
[12:56] <TheGateKeeper> silver_hook: that's what I am on about
[12:56] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: it's easier for the one giving the instructions, but bewildering to the recepient. not to mention it's actually less safe if there were typographical errors
[12:57] <Jucato> unless of course, the one asking already knows enough about apt-get or sources.list
[12:57] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato: he is writting an article for tux mag, how hard is it to copy paste?
[12:57] <silver_hook> I *would* just tell them to apt-get it ...but TUX is rather strict about not using CLI
[12:58] <Samuli^> I think the gui for apt in KDE is called adept
[12:58] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: ^^^^^ does that answer your question?
[12:58] <Samuli^> or kpackage might've been another one.
[12:58] <Jucato> KPackage is the older (but IMHO more stable/reliable) one. Adept is newer and is still a bit um... new :)
[12:58] <Samuli^> kynaptic? :D
[12:59] <Jucato> Samuli^: ugh! :P
[12:59] <Samuli^> I like adept.
[12:59] <Jucato> Adept is good if you know what you're doing. otherwise...
[01:00] <fdoving> adept is good for regular users package management needs too.
[01:00] <TheGateKeeper> may be TUX should change sides to windows lol
[01:00] <Samuli^> I don't see how it's easier to bork your system with adept than it is with kpackage
[01:00] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: consider TUX's target audience
[01:00] <Jucato> fdoving: regular/more advanced users, yes. newer users?....
[01:01] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato: I was that's why I suggested copy/paste lol
[01:01] <Jucato> Samuli^: for one, Adept doesn't prominently inform you of changes that will take place, nor does it ask for user confirmation
[01:02] <Samuli^> Jucato. you're probably right. I haven't use neither in a long time.
[01:02] <Quadral> I am having problems with installing Kubuntu 6.06 from LiveCD. Installer just stops at "Scanning the mirror". Any ideas what to do?
[01:02] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: since when did copy/paste become the preferred method for newbies? I must have away during that stage
[01:02] <Samuli^> jst vaguely remember that I liked adept more, for some reason :)
[01:02] <pose> i cant use kmobiletools with a bluetooth device!!
[01:02] <fdoving> Jucato: if you think of the scenario "i need package xxxx" adept is usable to new users too. imho.
[01:02] <Jucato> Samuli^: Adept is faster and quicker compared to Synaptic and KPackage. but it really requires you to know what you are doing
[01:03] <zorglu_> i love adept
[01:03] <Samuli^> I think it's good idea to to have newbies to use terminal from the start.
[01:03] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato: well it is for lazy sods like me lol
[01:03] <zorglu_> i think it is the first tool which make it easy to install software
[01:03] <Samuli^> you can tell that there's a way to do it in gui, but this way is faster for you and for me to explain.
[01:03] <Jucato> don't get me wrong. Adept is quick and easy, but not for new users
[01:04] <Samuli^> and anyways, perhaps they understand that CLI is nothing like dos is in windows :)
[01:04] <pose> when releases edgy final version?
[01:04] <Jucato> fdoving, you've been in the forums. have you seen how many times people have complained about Adept removing packages without telling them?
[01:04] <Jucato> or at least not prominently informing them?
[01:04] <Samuli^> hmm, does adept use aptitude or apt as it's backend?
[01:05] <Jucato> apt
[01:05] <fdoving> Jucato: ohwell.. true :)
[01:06] <Jucato> I don't mind just telling users to copy/paste stuff. But I've encountered some people who are quite skeptical of just pasting commands. at least with GUI instructions, they see what they're doing every step of the way
[01:06] <thygrrr> how would I go about upgrading to Xorg 7.1
[01:06] <thygrrr> ?
[01:07] <TheGateKeeper> rofl
[01:07] <Jucato> thygrrr: I'm afraid no simple way to do that on Dapper afaik
[01:09] <thygrrr> Jucato, thanks.
[01:09] <cvacubo> Hello
[01:09] <fdoving> !away
[01:09] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[01:09] <TheGateKeeper> silver_hook: good luck
[01:10] <fdoving> silver_hook: ^^
[01:10] <Jucato> thygrrr: Edgy Eft, which will be out in a few weeks, would be using 7.1 iirc
[01:10] <silver_hook> thanks
[01:10] <thygrrr> Jucato, I might have a look at that.
[01:10] <silver_hook> btw ...the kde-3.5.4 repersitory has kopete as a separate package or will it upgrade the whole kde?
[01:11] <thygrrr> Jucato, though I'm wary of tearing down my entire working system just because one problem with LWJGL.
[01:11] <Jucato> silver_hook: it will upgrade the whole KDE. I'm not sure if 0.12.1 will work with KDE 3.5.2 packages/libs
[01:12] <silver_hook> Jucato: it works for me on Gentoo (0.12.1 and kde-3.5.2)
[01:12] <fdoving> silver_hook: if you add the kde 3.5.4 repository and use adept to upgrade, it will upgrade the whole of kde. if you use the url i gave you, you'll get kopete only.
[01:13] <Jucato> silver_hook: that's Gentoo
[01:13] <silver_hook> fdoving: the imbrandon one?
[01:13] <Jucato> fdoving: problem is if silver_hook will be putting that up in TUX, don't you think he should at least inform imbrandon first?
[01:14] <fdoving> Jucato: maybe..
[01:15] <fdoving> Jucato: i kinda think of it like "it's public, go get it"
[01:16] <Jucato> well, at least he should be informed that his server is probably going to get some heavy traffic :P
[01:16] <silver_hook> i think the bigger problem is that maybe TUX won't like it that the rep is not an official one :S
[01:16] <Jucato> well, there's also that :)
[01:16] <fdoving> silver_hook: then tell them imbrandon is a kubuntu developer.
[01:17] <fdoving> it's as close to official it getts, without being official.
[01:17] <will_> hey all
[01:17] <Jucato> hmm.....
[01:17] <will_> im a HUGE n00b to linux who needs to ask some hugely noob questions
[01:17] <Jucato> anyone running KDE 3.5.3 right now?
[01:17] <will_> only just got ubuntu installed
[01:17] <Jucato> !ask
[01:17] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:17] <will_> :P kk
[01:17] <fdoving> silver_hook: talking to imbrandon first, would be a good idea, he might not want you to use the packages for some reason. or he might have better suggestions. :)
[01:18] <will_> ive downloaded the firefox archive now how do i install this/get it to run and where am i supposed to put applications?
[01:18] <Jucato> silver_hook: while KDE 3.5.4 on Dapper has Kopete 0.12.1, I'm not so sure if upgrading to it would be something I'd recommend to TUX readers, at least for now...
[01:18] <will_> i feel stupid putting an application i nmy home folder
[01:18] <Jucato> will_: you don't have to do that to install Firefox. you can install it easily from Ubuntu's repositories
[01:18] <silver_hook> Jucato: that's why i asked :S
[01:19] <fdoving> Jucato: i'll support you on that, i do not recommend upgrading to the 3.5.4 packages from kubuntu.org, they have issues.
[01:19] <will_> Jucato: how would I do tht?
[01:19] <Jucato> let me check what version of Kopete that comes with KDE 3.5.3
[01:19] <KDEfanboy> fdoving: issues?
[01:19] <Jucato> !install
[01:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[01:19] <Jucato> will_: ^^^^
[01:19] <Jucato> KDEfanboy: some known bugs
[01:19] <Jucato> that won't probably get fixed :(
[01:20] <silver_hook> fdoving: there's only one problem with contacting imbrandon - I have to send the changes to the article in 24h :S
[01:20] <fdoving> KDEfanboy: yes, bugs,like one where kpersonalizer starts every time you login.. etc. and as jucato says they most likely won't be fixed for dapper since the focus now is the next release, edgy.
[01:21] <Jucato> well, not even after edgy probably...
[01:21] <will_> lol how do i do !install :S
[01:21] <Jucato> KDE 3.5.3/3.5.4 on Dapper isn't part of the "warranty"
[01:21] <TheGateKeeper> will_: sudo apt-get install firefox
[01:22] <will_> nice one :D
[01:23] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato: [12:22]  <TheGateKeeper> will_: sudo apt-get install firefox  <-- notice I don't give some rambling explaination how to use adept :-)
[01:23] <fdoving> silver_hook: send him a mail - you'll find info on https://launchpad.net/people/imbrandon
[01:23] <markeib> hi! can you tell me where (KDE) icons are stored so i can manipulate them?
[01:23] <Jucato> your call, since you're the one who replied
[01:23] <will_> say i've just compiled an app and I want that to be 'installed' too, how do i do tht?
[01:24] <fdoving> markeib: /usr/share/icons/
[01:24] <TheGateKeeper> will_: use checkinstall
[01:24] <silver_hook> fdoving: thanks :)
[01:24] <fdoving> !checkinstall > will_
[01:24] <Jucato> will_: if you follow those links, there would be instructions. but for compiling, I agree with TheGateKeeper. use "checkinstall" instead of "make install"
[01:24] <markeib> thank you!
[01:24] <TheGateKeeper> will_: you are using a bianry distro so it should be unneccessary
[01:24] <will_> thx alot :D
[01:25] <Jucato> markeib: /usr/share/icons for those installed by the admin/root (using sudo or Adept/apt-get/etc) and ~/.kde/share/icons for those installed by the user
[01:25] <TheGateKeeper> will_: if you like compiling stuff use gentoo or sourcemage :-)
[01:25] <will_> ok...
[01:26] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: so you mean I can't stay on Kubuntu if I like to compile stuff?
[01:26] <TheGateKeeper> will_: you might this usefull too
[01:26] <Jucato> hi Hobbsee! :)
[01:27] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato: not what I said, waste of cpu cycles lol
[01:27] <Hobbsee> hey Jucato
[01:27] <will_> now tht ive installed firefox i cant seem to find it :S
[01:28] <will_> how do i get it into my kde menu thingy
[01:28] <will_> lol almost said start menu there
[01:28] <markeib> ok Jucato if i copy a folder in ~/.kde/share/icons will it be recognised as an installed theme?
[01:28] <TheGateKeeper> will_: try logging out then back in
[01:28] <Hobbsee> will_: either add it manually, or run kappfinder.
[01:28] <Hobbsee> that works too
[01:28] <will_> kk
[01:28] <Jucato> markeib: I'm not  totally sure
[01:29] <Jucato> but probably yes
[01:29] <markeib> i'll just try ^^
[01:29] <markeib> but how do i copy directories?
[01:30] <Jucato> markeib: but you can install fonts that come in .tar.gz files (archives) easily using System Settings > Appearance > Icons
[01:30] <will_> thx all :D
[01:30] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=28559&highlight=portage <---- have fun :-)
[01:31] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: I said "if"
[01:33] <Jucato> fdoving: are you still around?
[01:34] <inful> Hi
[01:34] <inful> Small question for those who know the answer:)
[01:37] <inful> Me and my wife is usually logged in on the same machine (two vt's), my wife has an iPod, but it is automounted some times  with her user permissions, some times with mine. Is there any way to let HAL set permissions on the iPod (or any usb storage device) acording to device id or something like that?
[01:37] <fdoving> Jucato: somehow.
[01:39] <Jucato> fdoving: oh ok... do you somehow have/know of a guide about setting up an internal ftp? two machines, Linux and Windows... (related to the problem earlier)
[01:39] <inful> (This is even more irritating with my SE-W300i, as it shows up as two devices, and they are usually mounted with two different uids)
[01:39] <tmdx120> Hello, does anyone know how to get a palm to sync with dapper?
[01:40] <Mantits> use a mouse
[01:40] <Mantits> tmdx120: use a mouse
[01:40] <inful> tmdx120: I've used kpilot
[01:40] <fdoving> Jucato: ftp-server? install vsftpd, and set listen_address to the local address of the linux box. (not the public one).
[01:41] <tmdx120> Mantits: ???
[01:41] <Jucato> fdoving: the local addresss would be 127.0.0.1?
[01:41] <Mantits> Mouse is human interface device for hand
[01:41] <zorglu_> more like 192.168.*
[01:41] <tmdx120> inful: thats what im using.
[01:41] <Jucato> fdoving: how could I communicate/transfer files to the Windows box?
[01:41] <inful> tmdx120: I've used it with a Tungsten E2
[01:42] <tmdx120> Mantits: I know what  a mouse is. Im trying got sync my palm pilot.
[01:42] <Jucato> zorglu_: oh ok
[01:42] <tmdx120> inful: I have a m505
[01:42] <zorglu_> Jucato: or 0.0.0.0 which mean 'any address'
[01:42] <Jucato> ok
[01:42] <tmdx120> inful: it is "unable to read system information" on my device.
[01:43] <|lostbyte|> Hi Guys.
[01:43] <inful> tmdx120: Never seen that error myself AFAIK
[01:44] <tmdx120> inful: AFAIK? Im a newbie
[01:44] <inful> tmdx120: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-pim&m=103462554922010&w=2
[01:44] <Jucato> tmdx120: AFAIK means "As Far As I Know"
[01:45] <tmdx120> Jucato: thanks.
[01:45] <tmdx120> inful: thanks for the info, ill work on  it.
[01:46] <fdoving> Jucato: with a ftp-client from windows.
[01:46] <Jucato> ah
[01:46] <fdoving> Jucato: if you want easy filesharing from/to windows, i'd recommend samba
[01:47] <Jucato> fdoving: I tried that earlier, it was soooo fscking slow. don't know why. probably because of the IP masquerade thing?
[01:47] <Jucato> my (wired) ethernet card's speed is 10/100 mbps I think
[01:47] <|lostbyte|> Jucato, How slow ?
[01:47] <fdoving> no, nat shouln't make a difference.
[01:48] <Jucato> hm... more than 5 minutes to copy 1.4MB? and stalling most of the time until the operation sort of timed out
[01:48] <fdoving> thats not normal.
[01:48] <|lostbyte|> :-o
[01:48] <Jucato> right now, I can't even connect to the laptop.. smb://mshome results in Timeout on server
[01:48] <|lostbyte|> Jucato, COuld be a defected wire.
[01:49] <Jucato> hm.. the laptop is happily connected to the internet through my Linux box...
[01:49] <Quadral> I am having problems with installing Kubuntu 6.06 from LiveCD. Installer just stops at "Scanning the mirror". Any ideas what to do?
[01:50] <|lostbyte|> Jucato, try the ip of the remote pc.
[01:50] <Jucato> |lostbyte|: remote pc = Windows XP laptop?
[01:50] <|lostbyte|> Quadral, give it some time there. how long have you waited ?
[01:51] <Jucato> |lostbyte|: ah there yes I can see XP again...
[01:51] <|lostbyte|> Jucato, For windows right click on the icon in the notification bar to get the ip.
[01:52] <Hobbsee> Quadral: idiot question:  do you actually have a working internet connection there?
[01:52] <Jucato> lol!! would you be surprised if what I did was launch "cmd" and type in "ipconfig"?
[01:52] <tmdx120> inful: FIXED. THANKS!!!
[01:52] <Jucato> ok still stalling and still slow...
[01:52] <|lostbyte|> Jucato, :) .. anyways. just use the Xp box ip in konqueror. with smb://
[01:53] <inful> tmdx120: Good! Happy syncing:)
[01:53] <Quadral> i don't think internet is working yet since it need to enable wireless card
[01:53] <Quadral> don't know why it doesn't just skip this step
[01:56] <uppis> stand by...
[01:56] <thygrrr> What are the OpenGL and Video Overlay lines in /etc/X11/Xorg.conf for precisely? :)
[01:57] <Jucato> fdoving: trying out vsftpd. how do Iknow the local IP of this Linux box?
[02:00] <tommy_> damn kubuntu rox
[02:00] <tommy_> installed and everything works from the start
[02:00] <tommy_> sound video everything
[02:00] <tommy_> never seen something like that :p
[02:01] <j2daosh> what is the command for adding samba users?
[02:02] <fdoving> Jucato: the output of 'ip addr' will tell you
[02:03] <fdoving> j2daosh: first you need to have the users added to the system (system settings -> users & groups) - then the command is 'smbpasswd -a username' to add users.
[02:04] <fdoving> Jucato: addresses starting with 10., 192.168., 172.16. are private addresses.
[02:04] <Jucato> ah ok got that :)
[02:05] <Jucato> I just add "listen_address=<ip address>" at the end of vsftpd.conf right?
[02:05] <fdoving> Jucato: correct.
[02:06] <Jucato> then using an ftp client on windows, I go to ftp://<ip address of linux box> ??
[02:07] <josh_> what is the command to restart samba?
[02:08] <lupine_85>  /etc/init.d/samba restart ?
[02:08] <lupine_85> it might not be called samba - check the dir for appropriate alternatives
[02:08] <josh_> /usr/sbin/smbd -restart :)
[02:08] <fdoving> Jucato: correct.
[02:09] <lupine_85> oh, alright then ;)
[02:09] <lupine_85> no - though, surely
[02:09] <fdoving> lupine_85: it's named samba :)
[02:10] <josh_> actually you were correct lupine
[02:10] <josh_> i dont know what the hell i just restarted....
[02:10] <josh_> oh well
[02:11] <Jucato> fdoving: any FTP Client you would recommend on windows?
[02:12] <josh_> use fireftp
[02:12] <josh_> or firezilla if you dont want an ftp extension inyour browser
[02:12] <Jucato> josh_: firezilla is an extension for firefox?
[02:12] <fdoving> i prefer some cygwin commandlinestuff :)
[02:13] <Jucato> ah ok
[02:13] <josh_> fireftp is an extension... standalone is firezilla
[02:14] <josh_> i have to figure out how to share my drive
[02:14] <josh_> the people in the samba room dont speak so they weren't any help
[02:15] <Jucato> sharing using smb:/ here is sooo slow... that's why I'm trying an ftp solution... :(
[02:15] <Samuli^> josh_ man smb.conf ?
[02:15] <fdoving> josh_: get the kdenetwork-filesharing package. and rightclick -> share.
[02:15] <Samuli^> :)
[02:15] <Samuli^> or man samba, I don't know if there is manpages for configuration files.
[02:15] <josh_> yeah i have it shared out already... but it fails at authentication from other boxes
[02:15] <Samuli^> ach, windows?
[02:15] <josh_> i have made a smbpasswd username
[02:15] <Jucato> man smb.conf actually
[02:16] <Samuli^> what did I say?
[02:16] <josh_> it just wont let me connect from a mac or windows
[02:24] <vikke> hello, im having this problem when im trying to ./configure a source, configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[02:25] <fdoving> vikke: you need the package 'xorg-dev'
[02:26] <arejaytee> is there a command i can use to see where most space is being used on a drive? im quite suprised im using 23 gig of this 27gig hd lol
[02:26] <Jucato> df -h
[02:26] <vikke> fdoving: whew that was alot, but now another error poped up
[02:27] <arejaytee> yeah using that already Jucato :)
[02:27] <Jucato> um..
[02:27] <arejaytee> i know where 13 gig of it is, just suprised the rest would be the install of kubuntu lol
[02:27] <fdoving> du
[02:27] <Jucato> have you tried Filelight? (GUI)
[02:27] <Jucato> oh that one, du
[02:27] <arejaytee> hrrmm nope
[02:27] <fdoving> arejaytee: open konqueror, browse to /
[02:28] <Jucato> !filelight
[02:28] <ubotu> filelight: show where your diskspace is being used. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99beta6-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 317 kB, installed size 856 kB
[02:29] <fdoving> arejaytee: open konqueror, browse to /, on the menubar find 'view -> view mode -> file size view'
[02:29] <vikke> !QT
[02:29] <ubotu> qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and a lot of other applications. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package.
[02:29] <arejaytee> hrmm k
[02:29] <Jucato> vikke: you might also need to install kde-devel
[02:30] <arejaytee> fudge thats cool
[02:30] <vikke> jucato: thats possible, but its complaining about im not having qt, but everything seems broken
[02:31] <Jucato> vikke: Qt is already installed, but probably not the development packages you need to compile
[02:31] <fdoving> vikke: you need libqt3-mt-dev
[02:32] <vikke> fdoving: yes, ive tried, installing kde-devel, libqt3-mt-dev, and lots of other packages i apparently need for this but it seems everything is broken
[02:33] <arejaytee> thanks fdoving
[02:33] <arejaytee> and Jucato as always lol
[02:33] <arejaytee> i think i was gotmilk last time though
[02:33] <fdoving> vikke: what is it you're compiling?
[02:34] <vikke> fdoving: right now? dekorator, i know i can install it through apt but i get the same error on nativekde themes too i think
[02:36] <Jucato> fdoving: using fireftp, it says "vsftpd: refusing to run with writable anonymous root". what does that mean or what do I do?
[02:37] <fdoving> Jucato: that means vsftpd refuses to start when the anonymous root directory,  is writable i guess. (try changing the owneship to root.root on that directory)
[02:37] <Jucato> ok thanks
[02:44] <Jucato> ok this is getting hopeless.. :(
[02:44] <Jucato> er.. I'm getting hopeless I mean
[02:44] <xdemon> !sound
[02:44] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[02:45] <Jucato> !ftp
[02:45] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[02:45] <xdemon> i have problem with sound
[02:46] <xdemon> soundmax, integrated in asus p4p800se
[02:46] <thiago_> kiss
[02:46] <thiago_> hjy gouyi poulosk pet jiump most
[02:46] <heinkel_111> xdemon what is the problem with it?
[02:47] <heinkel_111> i have  soundmax
[02:47] <xdemon> xine cannot ... drivers
[02:47] <xdemon> initialise
[02:47] <heinkel_111> in asus m2n-sli motherboard
[02:47] <heinkel_111> mine works just fine
[02:47] <xdemon> i have problem only with mp3 players
[02:47] <heinkel_111> does it work with oether sound engines?
[02:48] <heinkel_111> oss, alasa etc?
[02:48] <heinkel_111> alsa?
[02:48] <xdemon> all
[02:48] <heinkel_111> no sound at all?
[02:48] <thiago_> bonjour ava?
[02:48] <xdemon> only mp3s and music... system sound working...
[02:49] <fdoving> !mp3 > xdemon
[02:53] <Tokeiito> every time i need to create vhost for my project in apache2 i need to add it to hosts file
[02:53] <Tokeiito> is there ability to add smth like *.host to hosts?
[02:53] <fdoving> like a wildcard=
[02:53] <fdoving> ?
[02:54] <Tokeiito> yes
[02:54] <Tokeiito> becose all my vhosts are: site1.localhost site2.localhost and etc.
[02:55] <fdoving> don't think /etc/hosts can do that.
[02:55] <fdoving> have to go. bye.
[02:56] <Jucato> sob...
[02:56] <Jucato> octan: ping?
[02:57] <tk> interesting.. why would 1 partition not show up in "df" but its accessible?
[02:57] <rambo3> ghanas wright wing
[02:57] <Jucato> clear
[02:58] <tk> and its not even showing up in mount.... but its accessible
[02:58] <Jucato> er.. sorry about that...
[02:59] <xdemon> how i can install mp3 codecs?
[02:59] <tk> !mp3 > xdemon
[02:59] <rambo3> only ubotu knows
[02:59] <Jucato> xdemon: first enable the "multiverse" repository
[02:59] <Jucato> !multiverse
[02:59] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:00] <Jucato> ^^^^^
[03:00] <Jucato> then look for "libxine-extracodecs"
[03:00] <tk> ohh, heh, you already seen the mp3 one earlier
[03:00] <xdemon> oh
[03:00] <xdemon> yes
[03:00] <tk> hmmm I should probably go find out what time my bus leaves
[03:03] <xdemon> ok
[03:03] <xdemon> installed
[03:03] <xdemon> but racoon cannot installs
[03:04] <xdemon> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 255
[03:04] <xdemon> !xmms encoding
[03:04] <ubotu> xmms: Versatile X audio player. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.10+cvs20050809-4ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1029 kB, installed size 7256 kB
[03:05] <xdemon> !webmin
[03:05] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[03:05] <xdemon> heh
[03:05] <xdemon> i using it
[03:07] <bluch> hello, where can i find a good looking system monitor
[03:07] <tk> depending on what you wanna monitor, SuperKaramba has some sys mon type stuff
[03:08] <root> KSysGuard?
[03:08] <arejaytee> hrmm what can i use to unrar files ? lol
[03:08] <Jucato> !unrar
[03:09] <ubotu> unrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[03:09] <root> why am i root? :P brb
[03:09] <Jucato> arejaytee: just install "unrar" and use Ark
[03:09] <arejaytee> k
[03:10] <bluch> hmm, well i have seen some pictures, from kde-look but i don't know the name of that monitor
[03:10] <arejaytee> and if i had just tried to open them with ark it would have told me lol
[03:11] <r4sCaL> could someone please help me with getting the dccserver port 59 to work? any links or suggestions?
[03:12] <bluch> i want a system monitor that is allways vissible
[03:13] <rambo3> why would i want to click on X button to minimize every program.. damn kde
[03:14] <Jucato> ?
[03:14] <Jucato> bluch: System Guard Panel Applet? (right-click Panel > Add Applet to Panel > System Guard) ?
[03:15] <tk> rambo3: probably the same reason XGL/Beryl setups up functions that use ctrl+scroll wheel  when browsers already (and some text programs) make use of this... *grumbles*
[03:17] <Shinku>  I just spent the last twenty minutes rubbing a twelve year old girl's bare chest.
[03:17] <Shinku> shit
[03:17] <Shinku> wrong channel
[03:18] <Jucato> O_O
[03:18] <rambo3> wannabes want to get on bash.org
[03:19] <r4sCaL> has anyone here managed to download from someone in irc using port 59?
[03:19] <r4sCaL> (using konversation)
[03:24] <tk> r4sCaL: does Konversation even support remote DCC's?
[03:25] <tk> r4sCaL: from what I see, it doesnt support remote DCC like mIRC does.... (its not a standard DCC thing AFAIK)
[03:33] <xdemon> !kompile
[03:33] <ubotu> kompile: interface for compilation automation for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 62 kB, installed size 320 kB
[03:33] <Jucato> is it possible to connect a Linux PC and an XP laptop using USB and transfer files?
[03:34] <Samuli^> I doubt that with usb.
[03:34] <Samuli^> but who knows
[03:35] <tk> Jucato: I wouldnt doubt it.... shouldnt me much diff than a null modem link....
[03:35] <Samuli^> that would be pretty cool if it works.
[03:35] <r4sCaL> tk: I heard that there were some work arounds where you can set the port range to any number and then forward port 59 to the port you chose, but I can't figure out how to do that or find a guide that explains it. Maybe it just won't work though...
[03:36] <Jucato> tk: that means it's possible? my NIC is only 10/100 mbps, and transferring 300+ MB doesn't go beyond 1MB without stalling...
[03:36] <Martijn81> Jucato: i think there are usb cables with some chip in the middle of the cable, where both computer think the other computer is just an external station. But i could easily be another windows only mess...
[03:36] <Martijn81> *it
[03:36] <Jucato> ah.. :(
[03:36] <tk> Jucato: I said I wouldnt doubt that its possible, I'm fairly certain I've seen setups for Windows that u.... yah what Martijn81 said :P
[03:36] <m4x1mum> where does opera store the skin?
[03:37] <Jucato> m4x1mum: try ~/.opera ?
[03:37] <Martijn81> yeah, not sure if it will work, maybe i should just buy one and test it out
[03:37] <Jucato> heh.. I would make sure it works first before buying one... PC peripherals don't come cheap here... :(
[03:37] <tk> but... I've also seen 9pin serial -> usb adapters which means you could do usb->9pin->null modem.... ->9pin->usb.....
[03:38] <tk> but the null modem cable might have the workings for the data xfer... never investigated the workings of those
[03:38] <tk> havent used one in 8 years
[03:39] <m4x1mum> aaah nevermind i found it, its in /usr/share....
[03:41] <Jucato> hm...
[03:41] <Martijn81> i use samba and a switch though, never got me any problems
[03:42] <Martijn81> Jucato: on BIG file, and the file size says ...TB then? If so: it /looks/ like it's stalling, but it isn't
[03:43] <m4x1mum> how do i check if the internet connection is working or not? is there any software that keep track of that?
[03:43] <m4x1mum> like in windows there is the connection icon
[03:43] <ubuntu__> go to the console and try a ping
[03:43] <Jucato> Martijn81: TB?
[03:44] <Jucato> Martijn81: it actually stops saying something like the file cannot be copied to the Shared Directory
[03:44] <Martijn81> yeah, some thousand TeraByte :p
[03:44] <Jucato> nah it correctly sees it as a few hundred MB's
[03:44] <soulrider> hi
[03:44] <soulrider> !cpu
[03:45] <ubotu> cpu: a console based LDAP user management tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.3-8 (dapper), package size 137 kB, installed size 432 kB
[03:45] <Martijn81> i see... no i never got that problem yet
[03:45] <Jucato> :(
[03:45] <Jucato> even FTP seems to time out...
[03:45] <Jucato> anyway... I'm doing it the hard way, at least for today...
[03:45] <soulrider> is anyone else having CPU use issues? i look at my CPU usage graph and it looks like a snake =/
[03:45] <soulrider> and im running the apps i allways ran
[03:45] <Jucato> brb
[03:46] <Martijn81> hehe, yeah we'll get there anyways
[03:48] <ubuntu__> total n00b here, quick Q: where in ubuntu do i activate my tv-out? :)
[03:48] <ubuntu__> only screen settings i find is the resolution
[03:53] <m4x1mum> ooh crap, whats the url for the normal konquerer?
[03:53] <m4x1mum> default homepage i meant
[03:54] <thunderstorm> hi@all
[03:55] <thunderstorm> somewhere use the krusader?
[03:55] <thunderstorm> i have a question about it
[03:55] <thunderstorm> i want to use it as ftp-client-software
[03:56] <inam> not exactly a kubuntu question... i've written a very simple helloworld program in C... need to compile it and then make it... would appreciate any help :)
[03:56] <thunderstorm> if i transfer files to a ftp-server
[03:57] <m4x1mum> you need gcc installed
[03:57] <inam> ive installed gcc-4.0
[03:57] <thunderstorm> i have the problem, that the rights of these files where changed
[03:57] <inam> i dont know how to create a "makefile" :(
[03:57] <thunderstorm> the files must have 644
[03:57] <m4x1mum> aah makefile, i forgot how to do that unfortunately
[03:58] <inam> oh !
[03:58] <SonicChao> Is there a program that can alert you when it's a certain time?
[03:58] <Hellvie> how to mount an iso image?
[03:58] <Mantits> strongbad alarm clock
[03:58] <m4x1mum> !mountiso
[03:58] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[03:59] <inam> is there any other irc channel where i could go to with my question ?
[03:59] <SonicChao> Mantits: hmm?
[03:59] <mrdarcy> lists
[03:59] <Jucato> m4x1mum: Help > Konqueror Introduction
 Is there a program that can alert you when it's a certain time?|<Mantits> strongbad alarm clock
[03:59] <mrdarcy> anybody here know perl 5?
[03:59] <vikke> err, i dont know whats going on really, but i was trying to install compiz, then i needed to edit the /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc document (ive done that before), and its not how i should be :S, kdmrc merely contains 78 lines of code and not the line i was there to replace
[04:00] <SonicChao> Mantits: That doesn't exactly help, A) I don't have a link, B) I don't know if it's in repos or not, etc.
[04:00] <Mantits> http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Strong_Bad_Clock
[04:00] <m4x1mum> aah and how do i set it to be the default homepage?
[04:00] <Mantits> You could use WINE
[04:00] <Jucato> SonicChao: KOrganizer? KAlarm?
[04:00] <bluch> !karamba
[04:00] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[04:01] <SonicChao> Jucato: I tried typing "kalarm" in terminal before, but it did nothing
[04:01] <SonicChao> Mantits: >> Wine for an app I'm going to have open for a while?
[04:01] <Jucato> SonicChao: of course you'd need to have it installed?
[04:01] <SonicChao> Jucato: Isn't it part of the default install?
[04:01] <Jucato> SonicChao: you can use KOrganizer (KDE Calendar) from Kontact
[04:01] <Jucato> afaik, no
[04:02] <SonicChao> Jucato: Then I'll install it...
[04:02] <Jucato> m4x1mum: Settings > Save View Profile > check Save URL in profile. (Make sure that you only have one tab open and that it's set to the Konqueror Introduction page
[04:02] <SonicChao> Jucato: You were right, it is not default
[04:02] <Jucato> SonicChao: why not KOrganizer? it has a reminder daemon too
[04:02] <SonicChao> Jucato: I don
[04:03] <SonicChao> 't use Kontact
[04:03] <octan> morning
[04:03] <Jucato> SonicChao: you can launch KOrganizer separately from Kontact, you know
[04:03] <octan> Jucato, pong
[04:03] <SonicChao> Jucato: No, didn't know that.
[04:03] <Jucato> SonicChao: well now you do :)
[04:04] <thunderstorm> i need help with the software krusader - somewhere knows it?
[04:04] <Lechero> hi boys
[04:04] <m4x1mum> aaah thanks
[04:04] <Lechero> yes, krusader is like total commander
[04:04] <Jucato> octan: hi! I gave up on FTP... :(
[04:04] <octan> why ?
[04:04] <thunderstorm> Lechero: you know it?
[04:04] <SonicChao> Jucato: XD Well, I already installed KAlarm
[04:04] <Lechero> thunderstorm: i know it
[04:04] <Jucato> if transferring files using samba stalls then stops, using FTP does the same after some time...
[04:04] <thunderstorm> Lechero: i want to use it for ftp
[04:05] <octan> hmm
[04:05] <thunderstorm> Lechero: but i have this problem: locally the files have these rights: -rw-r--r--
[04:05] <SonicChao> Jucato: Ok, figured it out. =3 Thanks
[04:05] <octan> Jucato, konqueror can do that with samba too :p
[04:06] <Jucato> octan: yeah that's what I'm doing with smb:/
[04:06] <Lechero> thunderstorm: i am sorry i only use krusador for local files, for ftp i use konqueror :(
[04:06] <thunderstorm> thunderstorm: if i transfer these files to my ftp-server, krusader change the rights so: -rw-------
[04:06] <Jucato> but I don't know why it keeps on stalling..
[04:06] <octan> it sounds odd
[04:07] <Jucato> very odd... or is it because my NIC is only 10/100 mbps?
[04:07] <Hellvie> and how to convert img to iso?
[04:08] <Hawkwind> Hellvie: An .img file is basically nothing more than an .iso
[04:08] <Hellvie> hmm
[04:08] <Hellvie> i cant mount it :(
[04:08] <Hawkwind> Hellvie: You can mount the .img file just like an .iso and view it or add things to it
[04:09] <Hellvie> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop1,
[04:09] <Danker> How to list groups and users from konsole?
[04:09] <Hawkwind> Hellvie: mount -o loop -t iso9660 /full/path/to/foo.iso /mnt/some/mount/point/you/created
[04:09] <Hellvie> thats what i get
[04:09] <Danker> console8
[04:09] <Hellvie> tried it
[04:09] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Good morning :)
[04:09] <Jucato> Hawkwind: hi! :)
[04:10] <Danker> For me its almost evening :)
[04:10] <Lechero> Fidel has cancer
[04:11] <deiu_cosma> hi
[04:11] <m4x1mum> does cedega use some serial number to install?
[04:12] <deiu_cosma> who know how install GNOME on Kubuntu?
[04:12] <LjL> deiu_cosma: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:12] <Jucato> deiu_cosma: "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop" or "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[04:13] <deiu_cosma> ok
[04:13] <deiu_cosma> thanks
[04:13] <LjL> deiu_cosma: yeah better do it with aptitude -- you'll be able to remove it easier
[04:13] <LjL> !aptitude
[04:13] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[04:13] <Tokeiito> !printers
[04:13] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:13] <Monque> where is xorg.conf stored
[04:13] <Monque> I screwed it up
[04:13] <Jucato> Monque: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:13] <inam> m4x1mum, i just said "gcc-4.0 helloworld.c" and it gave me a a.out ! and if i run it, i get "hello world" on the konsole :))
[04:13] <Monque> thanks
[04:15] <Hellvie> hmm i still get errors whem mounting that img :|
[04:16] <m4x1mum> what is the latest version of cedega?
[04:16] <Monque> ok
[04:17] <Monque> so somehow my xorg.conf identifies my card as an ati card
[04:17] <Monque> but has the nvidia driver
[04:18] <Monque> my card isan original geforce btw
[04:18] <Monque> any ideas?
[04:18] <B-Minus> does anyone know a good network scanner ? so i can put in 2 ip ranges and it scans all ranges in between ?
[04:19] <Jucato> Monque: did you install the nvidia driver?
[04:19] <Monque> Jucato: thats what screwed it up
[04:19] <Monque> where is my backup saved?
[04:19] <BluesKaj> Howdy Folks!
[04:20] <Jucato> Monque: what do you mean "screwed up"?
[04:20] <Monque> x wont start up
[04:20] <Monque> when i try it shows the first loading thing, but with no dialog
[04:20] <Jucato> Monque: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[04:21] <Monque> I need legacy drivers
[04:21] <Jucato> I think you didn't install the linux-restricted-drivers?
[04:21] <Monque> could be it
[04:21] <Jucato> Monque: it has instructions there for legacy drivers
[04:21] <Jucato> btw, what GeForce is your card?
[04:21] <Monque> geforce 1
[04:21] <Monque> lol
[04:21] <Monque> I need to get into kde first
[04:22] <maryen|hiding> monque, to revert to normal x settings in dapper, type "dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[04:22] <Jucato> oh. never knew it was legacy already
[04:25] <Monque> thanks
[04:25] <maryen|hiding> np
[04:29] <charlie> hi
[04:34] <vikke> i dont know if its just me, but i think my /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc document has totally changed, i was going to replace a line of code, when i noticed it didnt exist, and the document only contained 90 lines of code, i remeber it contained like 550 lines
[04:35] <Jucato> 550 lines?
[04:35] <Jucato> isn't that a bit overkill for a config file?
[04:35] <arunkale> hey people
[04:35] <arunkale> hey jucato
[04:35] <Jucato> hi arunkale
[04:36] <vikke> ah here, if found someone pasted it how i thought it used to look http://pastebin.ca/78296
[04:36] <arunkale> how's it going?
[04:37] <Hawkwind> Jucato: By default mine is 564 lines actually
[04:37] <Jucato> huh?
[04:37] <vikke> whatver, mine merely contain 80, im confused
[04:37] <Jucato> kdmrc?
[04:38] <Jucato> how can that be?
[04:39] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Look at yours.  I have never touched mine and mine has 564 lines currently
[04:39] <Jucato> 78 lines
[04:39] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Wow, very odd indeed
[04:40] <Jucato>  /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc ?
[04:40] <Hawkwind> Heck, the first 62 lines are commented out in that file
[04:41] <gnomefreak> mine is 564 lines default
[04:41] <Jucato> but still... 500+ lines?
[04:41] <Hawkwind>  564,1         Bot
[04:41] <Hawkwind> That's directly from vi
[04:41] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Yep.  It's like that in Mandriva as well
[04:41] <jody> hey can anyone tell me what package the "strings" utility is in?
[04:41] <Jucato> ok.. mine is just weird then
[04:41] <Hawkwind> Goes to show how bloated KDE is I guess :P
[04:42] <gnomefreak> Jucato: you want a normal file? ill pastebin it
[04:42] <Jucato> nah
[04:43] <Jucato> why would I need 500+ lines if 78 lines work fine?
[04:43] <vikke> but im trying to install compiz, and it says i need to replace a line in kdmrc witch dont exist apparently
[04:49] <TheHighChild> Hey guys, does anyone know if it's possible to run Linux inside or alongside of Windows (simultaneosly)
[04:49] <Jucato> vmware
[04:49] <vliegendehuiskat> xen
[04:49] <Jucato> qemu (er...)
[04:49] <vliegendehuiskat> but I don't have any experience with it
[04:49] <TheHighChild> They make VMware for Windows?
[04:49] <vliegendehuiskat> though xen requires doublecore
[04:49] <Jucato> TheHighChild: yes
[04:49] <B-Minus> hmm
[04:49] <Jucato> you can run Linux on Windows or Windows on Linux with VMWare
[04:50] <B-Minus> is there a bandwidth monitor included in kubuntu ?
[04:50] <TheHighChild> ok, I'll check it out. I have to use WIndows for work but it's just too retarded, I'd like to be able to crack open a terminal and whatnot, without Cygwin
[04:50] <TheHighChild> thanks Jucato
[04:50] <Hawkwind> vliegendehuiskat: Xen does not require double core
[04:51] <TheHighChild> It's a high-spec DC machine, so I'm sure it will run fine. I was curious becase I saw a proof of concept with running Knoppix on XP, wasn't sure if it was developed beyond that
[04:51] <vliegendehuiskat> It doesn't?
[04:51] <vliegendehuiskat> allright
[04:52] <vliegendehuiskat> than I should really go have a look at it when i've got time
[04:53] <larsbjar> In konqueror I activated something called "share this directory on the web". Now I got this blue globe logo on my panel managing my shared folders. How do I stop this service?
[04:54] <larsbjar> :(
[04:55] <Hawkwind> larsbjar: Right click on it maybe ?
[04:56] <larsbjar> Hawkwind: :) nope. Im
[04:56] <larsbjar> not that stupid
[04:56] <larsbjar> left/right click gives me: new server...
[04:57] <josh_> what is the command that makes a .deb after you compile something?
[04:57] <josh_> checkinstall?
[04:57] <LjL> yeah
[04:57] <Hawkwind> Ickkkkkkk
[04:57] <LjL> it doesn't really make a proper .deb like the ones you get from the repos, mind you
[04:57] <Hawkwind> josh_: Build things properly instead of using checkinstall
[04:57] <Jucato> Hawkwind: calm down :)
[04:58] <Hawkwind> josh_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51003
[04:58] <josh_> im going to build them properly... checkinstall will just be for the uninstall later
[04:58] <LjL> !checkinstall
[04:58] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page. - DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[04:58] <Hawkwind> josh_: Follow that how-to, it's quick and simple and will save you trouble
[04:58] <josh__> !mp3
[04:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:58] <Hawkwind> josh_: It's best to not use checkinstall at all.  It can and has destroyed systems before
[04:59] <Dr_willis> sounds like a bug. :)
[04:59] <claudio> when i try to compile kernel and I do make menuconfig
[04:59] <claudio> i get an error
[04:59] <claudio> ncurses
[04:59] <LjL> claudio: install linncurses5-dev
[04:59] <LjL> lib even
[04:59] <claudio> how?
[04:59] <LjL> !info libncurses5-dev
[04:59] <ubotu> libncurses5-dev: Developer's libraries and docs for ncurses. In component main, is optional. Version 5.5-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1276 kB, installed size 5904 kB
[04:59] <Hawkwind> Dr_willis: It's just the way checkinstall is coded.  It's a horribly coded product that shouldn't be made available, as well as yada
[04:59] <LjL> claudio: sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev
[05:00] <claudio> apt-get intall libncurses5-dev
[05:00] <LjL> !yada
[05:00] <ubotu> yada: Yet Another Debianisation Aid. In component main, is optional. Version 0.48 (dapper), package size 40 kB, installed size 220 kB
[05:00] <Dr_willis> Hawkwind,  sort of like automatix eh. :)
[05:00] <Hawkwind> Please query the bot and do the commands there instead of filling up the channel unnecessarily
[05:00] <Dr_willis> but worse since its in MAIN,
[05:00] <Hawkwind> Dr_willis: Hah, pretty much
[05:00] <claudio> to install xchat
[05:00] <claudio> how can i do?
[05:01] <LjL> claudio: sudo apt-get install xchat?
[05:01] <Hawkwind> claudio: sudo apt-get install xchat but you need universe
[05:01] <Dr_willis> ive noticed that ubuntu reops are slowly thinnin gout a lot of the packates
[05:01] <Hawkwind> Since xchat is in univese and xchat-gnome is in main for some goofy reason
[05:01] <Dr_willis> claudio,  you may want to read a few of the starter guides on ubuntu/kubuntu homepage..
[05:01] <Dr_willis> the add/remove programs icon in the menu :P is handy as well.
[05:01] <Dr_willis> xchat-gnome - is nasty. :)
[05:02] <Dr_willis> i compiled xchat 2.4 from source and use that
[05:02] <LjL> and perhaps if you don't know how to install packages, you should stay clear of compiling your own kernel for now.
[05:02] <claudio> i must get sources from the official xchat website?
[05:02] <LjL> no
[05:02] <Dr_willis> LjL,  heh - i was thinking that as well.
[05:02] <LjL> enable universe, and run sudo apt-get install xchat
[05:02] <LjL> !universe > claudio
[05:02] <claudio> what is universe?
[05:02] <LjL> claudio: the link explains it
[05:03] <claudio> what link?
[05:03] <LjL> claudio: the link that Ubotu gave you
[05:05] <claudio> http://rafb.net/paste/results/fdM7RB66.html
[05:05] <claudio> what is this?
[05:05] <LjL> claudio: "universe" is a software repository of Ubuntu. another such repository is "main". "main" is enabled by default, since it contains only packages that are officially supported by the Ubuntu team. "universe" does not, so it is disabled by default.
[05:06] <LjL> claudio: an error message during compilation of a kernel ;)
[05:06] <LjL> perhaps - just a guess - you're compiling the kernel with gcc 4, while the kernel still only supports gcc 3?
[05:06] <diego> hey i have downloaded some themes from kde-look.org but don't know how to install them
[05:07] <Jucato> !theme
[05:07] <Dr_willis> because ya then have toexplain how the theme system works. :P
[05:07] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[05:07] <Jucato> er nope. not those...
[05:07] <LjL> !changethemes
[05:07] <Jucato> Dr_willis: yeah, hope it becomes better in KDE4...
[05:07] <ubotu> Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[05:07] <claudio> LjL: when I tried compiling to mdk, it done succeesfully
[05:07] <Hawkwind> diego: You can do it in kcontrol
[05:07] <claudio> on kubuntu, i get this error
[05:08] <Jucato> whoa... that's a link to what I wrote! :)
[05:08] <Dr_willis> diego,  often the kde 'themes' are made of 3 different parts.. ya got the kde  window border themes, the  internal widget themes, and the icon themes.
[05:08] <Dr_willis> diego,  depending on the theme, you can drag/drop the downlaoded package to the theme manager. (for icon themes)
[05:08] <diego> Hawkwind: i cvlick on Install new themes but it filters all file i have downloaded
[05:08] <Jucato> Dr_willis: some of the confusion is caused by kde-look's categories actually
[05:08] <Dr_willis> the others may need to be uncompresed and compiled/installed
[05:08] <Jucato> !changethemes
[05:08] <ubotu> Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[05:08] <Jucato> diego: ^^^^^
[05:08] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  i agree there
[05:09] <pielgrzym> !metasploit
[05:09] <claudio> LjL: how can i solve this problem?
[05:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about metasploit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:09] <Dr_willis> diego,  you do relize thhat there are a lot of kde themes in the package manager, thats not isntlled by default?  about a dozen or so.
[05:09] <diego> hmm ok sorry gnna try all this
[05:09] <LjL> claudio: i haven't the slightest idea. i've stopped compiling kernels after finding out that distributions usually do it better than myself
[05:10] <claudio> LjL: I must do this because I must install patch to open squash fs images
[05:11] <Dr_willis> sounds like you got a lot of learning to do first claudio
[05:11] <uwo> !edgy
[05:11] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[05:11] <Dr_willis> claudio,  you may want to just try edgy and see if the new kernel has that feature all ready in there.
[05:11] <uwo> !schedule
[05:11] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:11] <LjL> claudio: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Squashfs
[05:12] <Dr_willis> i wonder if that FUSE stuff has a squashfs   add on.
[05:12] <LjL> claudio: doesn't look like you need a custom kernel for that
[05:12] <claudio> no no
[05:12] <claudio> it is a patch with LZMA compression
[05:12] <claudio> not only squash compression
[05:12] <claudio> squash+LZMA
[05:13] <claudio> http://mcmcc.bat.ru/dlinkt/linux-2.6.9-squashfs-2.1_lzma-mc1.patch
[05:13] <claudio> this is the patch
[05:13] <LjL> looks like it is a patch for the 2.6.9 kernel, though
[05:13] <LjL> what's your kernel?
[05:13] <claudio> 2.6.15
[05:14] <claudio> but wont to compile to 2.6.9
[05:14] <claudio> but I get an error
[05:14] <Hawkwind> Why would you want to go backwards to a much older kernel ?
[05:14] <Mantits> I just downloaded an wrote the dapper drake .iso, then booted with it
[05:14] <claudio> Hawkwind: because I need this patch
[05:15] <claudio> and the patch is only for 2.6.9 kernel
[05:15] <Hawkwind> claudio: Surely that is part of the newer kernels. Have you looked at 2.6.18 at all ?
[05:15] <Mantits> I got all the way through the process for running the live CD, but when the blue bar was at 100% it stoped and nothing happened
[05:15] <Mantits> Where do I start for troubleshooting?
[05:15] <claudio> Hawkwind: no, I don't have it
[05:15] <Dr_willis> Mantits,  this is the live cd? or the alternative isntall cd?
[05:16] <Hawkwind> claudio: Look on kernel.org and see if that stuff you need is now part of the kernel.  Chances are it is
[05:16] <Mantits> Dr_willis: it's the live cd
[05:18] <Dr_willis> Mantits,  could try the alternative install cd.. also you may want to try some different boot options.  noapic, noapci,  . also you may want to check the consoles (alt-ctrl-F1 through F5) for any error messages
[05:18] <Mantits> k
[05:19] <Mantits> I tried Fedora Core 5 afterward, had problems creating a new partition with that
[05:19] <claudio> Hawkwind: where I can see?
[05:19] <Dr_willis> i always fall back to  the good old 'fdisk' progartm to make my partitions
[05:20] <Hawkwind> claudio: kernel.org and click on the changelog for the kernel you want to look at.  All the info for every kernel is on kernel.org
[05:20] <Mantits> What file system should I use?
[05:20] <Mantits> for kubuntu?
[05:20] <Mantits> And how large?
[05:20] <LjL> Mantits: ext3 is the usual choice
[05:20] <Dr_willis> ext3  - and i think 3gb is the minimal suggested
[05:20] <Dr_willis> more is always better
[05:21] <Mantits> I'll try 10
[05:21] <Hawkwind> Mantits: Totally up to you really.  ext3 is decent, but a lot of users prefer ReiserFS due to it being a bit better in certain ways than ext3
[05:21] <B-Minus> does anyone know a good bandwidth monitoring tool ?
[05:22] <LjL> give me working on-the-fly compression, and i'll switch to reiser without even looking at the number of bugs...
[05:22] <claudio> Hawkwind: http://www.beyondlogic.org/nb5/squashfs_lzma.htm
[05:22] <B-Minus> how can i make ADEPT show the unstable packages as well ?
[05:22] <Dr_willis> LjL,  hmmm.. whats scary  - thats a feature i had on my AMIGA Years ago.
[05:22] <LjL> Dr_willis: XPK?
[05:22] <Hawkwind> Reiser is a lot better than most people realize.  I've used it for years and never once had an issue with file loss or anything.  It's also faster than ext3
[05:23] <B-Minus> amiga pwnz you
[05:23] <Dr_willis> B-Minus,  theres those check box's at the top. and  the pull down to select package sets.
[05:23] <Dr_willis> LjL,  i could have specific 'drives/mountpoints/directories' that compressed stuff on the fly - using diffrent methods.
[05:23] <Dr_willis> Of course back then.. 3mb was a large file.
[05:23] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:23] <Jucato> unstable packages?
[05:24] <B-Minus> ye i want Knemo
[05:24] <B-Minus> but it doesnt show up on the list
[05:24] <Jucato> B-Minus: are you using Add/Remove Programs?
[05:24] <LjL> Dr_willis: echo >ENV:Clipboards/0 "Dr_willis, thanks, I know :-P"   endcli
[05:24] <Dr_willis> !info knemo
[05:24] <ubotu> knemo: network interfaces monitor for KDEs systray. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-4 (dapper), package size 173 kB, installed size 804 kB
[05:24] <Dr_willis> B-Minus,  there ya go.. enable universe
[05:24] <Mantits> Dr_willis: :(( fdisk gives me an error too
[05:25] <Dr_willis> Mantits,  eww.. thats bad.. what kind of error?
[05:25] <m4x1mum> is there a free GPS software available?
[05:25] <Mantits> "failure reading boot manager"
[05:25] <Hawkwind> m4x1mum: Tons of them actually
[05:25] <Dr_willis> m4x1mum,  check freshmeat.net
[05:25] <Hawkwind> m4x1mum: freshmeat has hundreds
[05:25] <m4x1mum> for linux?
[05:25] <LjL> m4x1mum: what *kind* of gps software?
[05:25] <Hawkwind> Ummm.....of course
[05:25] <Dr_willis>  apt-cache search gps
[05:25] <Hawkwind> We don't talk much about Windows in here :P
[05:26] <claudio> Hawkwind: have you red it?
[05:26] <Hawkwind> claudio: No.  I don't need to since everything I need is in the kernel I run
[05:27] <B-Minus> Dr_willis: you sure i can enable it in adept manager or do i need to use the console ?
[05:27] <Mantits> So I might have some kind of hard drive problem, but that shouldn't affect the live cd
[05:27] <Mantits> so I've got multiple problems :s
[05:27] <B-Minus> cant see the option to enable universe
[05:28] <alex____> ol
[05:28] <Hawkwind> !universe > B-Minus
[05:28] <Dr_willis> B-Minus,  theres a dozen ways to enable it.
[05:29] <Dr_willis> In adept you can just check the 2 check box's at the top. and  have it show all packages.
[05:29] <LjL> !br
[05:29] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[05:29] <Jucato> Dr_willis: you're talking about Adept Installer, not Adept Manager
[05:29] <Dr_willis> i run adept from the shell. :)
[05:29] <Jucato> Adept Installer = Add/Remove Programs
[05:29] <Dr_willis> they really need to clarify those 2
[05:29] <Jucato> Adept Manager doesn't have those 2 boxes
[05:30] <Jucato> Adept Manager = big guy, Adept Installer = Add/Remove Programs, Adept Updater, then Adept Notifier.the 4 Adept Brothers
[05:30] <Jucato> (in)Adept brothers... :P
[05:30] <Dr_willis> of course - i recall one guy in here ranting he couldent find those box's either.. he was using  breezy.... we eventually found out.
[05:30] <LjL> m4x1mum: if you want a street navigation type program, then there's a problem in that street maps are not in the public domain. the US TIGER data are in the public domain, though, but they're not very complete. RoadMap (http://roadmap.digitalomaha.net/) supports TIGER.  or, you can look at the http://www.openstreetmap.org project for an ongoing effort to create open maps. RoadNav (http://roadnav.sf.net) can read such maps, if you get the latest
[05:30] <LjL> experimental version.
[05:30] <frank_> hi can someone pastebin me the /boot/grub/menu.list part for booting windows?
[05:31] <Dr_willis> I think they need a "change mode" button for the adept program :P to simple/advanced mode. lol
[05:31] <LjL> frank_: i could, but it'd probably be different from the one you need
[05:31] <the_imax> einen wundervollen sonntag an alle
[05:31] <Dr_willis> EasyAdept Vs Adept
[05:31] <frank_> LjL: I can change the partition
[05:31] <Jucato> heh
[05:31] <LjL> !de
[05:31] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:31] <LjL> frank_ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25987/
[05:31] <TheGateKeeper> Dr_willis: adept is best avoided :-) use apt-get/synaptic
[05:32] <frank_> LjL: thanks!
[05:32] <Dr_willis> TheGateKeeper,  bah! :P  actually i find that add/remove programs tool - to be rather handy
[05:32] <Mantits> :(( I'm throughily exhausted..  I guess no llinux for tonight!
[05:33] <Jucato> Dr_willis: except for the fact that both GNOME's and KDE's Add/Remove Programs doesn't seem to display some apps
[05:33] <soulrider> !transparency
[05:33] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:33] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  really which ones?
[05:33] <m4x1mum> ooh ok thanks
[05:34] <Jucato> Dr_willis: KWord and KDissert are the ones that I have confirmed so far. there might be others
[05:34] <Jucato> I think KOffice is also missing?
[05:34] <Dr_willis> oh wait i am in ICEwm at the moment.. :P
[05:34] <Jucato> ??
[05:35] <Jucato> can't you launch KDE/GNOME apps in IceWM?
[05:35] <Dr_willis> proberly can.. but the entry is not there at this time.
[05:35] <Dr_willis> i rember why i quit using icewm also..:P
[05:35] <Mantits> Dr_willis: any troubleshooting guides for "cannot create partition"?
[05:36] <Dr_willis> when i get a message in xchat. the programs-listing button flasshes... for 10 min.. :P
[05:36] <Jucato> Dr_willis: "adept_installer"
[05:36] <heinkel_111> I have a machine on which I installed sendmail. I later removed the sendmail package, but still the machine tries to start sendmail at startup. How can this be stopped?
[05:36] <Dr_willis> Mantits,  not really.. other then delete ones there.. write changes.. reboot. try again
[05:36] <Mantits> :S I have Windows on this PC and haven't really backed anything up
[05:36] <heinkel_111> is what i see related to sendmail entries in some init file? which? where?
[05:37] <Mantits> I just wanted to try a live cd or dual boot
[05:38] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  interesting - kword dont show up :P
[05:38] <Jucato> told yah :)
[05:38] <Karol84PL> To you know any application to let me mount cd image? (like .bin .cue .iso)
[05:38] <Dr_willis> file a bug!
[05:38] <Dr_willis> :P
[05:38] <Dr_willis> iso's are trivial to mount
[05:38] <TheGateKeeper> Mantits: if you want to install, probable a good idea to backup, then resize your ntfs partition to make room for linux
[05:38] <Dr_willis> others you normally convert to iso
[05:38] <Dr_willis> !iso
[05:38] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[05:38] <Jucato> Dr_willis: but question is: where?
[05:38] <Mantits> linux can run in ntfs?
[05:39] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  With Linus!
[05:39] <Dr_willis> Mantits,  no.. you normally resize the ntfs drives to free up space..
[05:39] <Jucato> Dr_willis: since it both affects Adept Installer and GNOME App Install
[05:39] <Mantits> :()
[05:39] <Dr_willis> Mantits,  is THAT the issue you are having? You do have some Unallocated drive space dont ya?
[05:39] <Mantits> I didn't think that through my mind
[05:39] <Mantits> You're right, I probably don't have any unallocated space
[05:39] <claudio> http://rafb.net/paste/results/fdM7RB66.html
[05:40] <Mantits> But since I can't run fdisk i can't change that either :P
[05:40] <claudio> anyone can help me?
[05:40] <TheGateKeeper> Mantits: use gparted livcd
[05:40] <Dr_willis> Mantits,  defrag/scandisk the xp drives.. run a live cd with gparted to resize the partitions . is what i do
[05:40] <TheGateKeeper> livecd*
[05:40] <Mantits> alright, googling
[05:44] <claudio> to install superkaramba how can i do?
[05:44] <Mantits> Is there an open source defragger?
[05:44] <Dr_willis> theres no need for one on ext2/3 filesystems
[05:44] <LjL> !find defrag
[05:44] <Mantits> Windows uses a stripped down version of a norton product, and I've found it doesn't really work all that well
[05:44] <Dr_willis> !info superkaramba
[05:44] <ubotu> Found: defrag
[05:44] <ubotu> superkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 504 kB, installed size 1376 kB
[05:45] <Mantits> I'm trying to defrag my ntfs partition before I resize it
[05:45] <Jucato> claudio: enable your main repositories and download superkaramba using Adept
[05:45] <LjL> Mantits: no, not for NTFS
[05:45] <Dr_willis> Mantits,   you cnt boot to windows eh?
[05:45] <Mantits> I can boot to windows, but if I rezie my partition while it's fragmented won't some of the files get cut off?
[05:45] <Mantits> whoa *resize
[05:45] <Mantits> <----------- complete nub
[05:45] <TheGateKeeper> Dr_willis: have you used superkaramba?
[05:46] <claudio> Jucato: what is repositories?
[05:46] <LjL> they shouldn't, i think that at most, it won't allow you to shrink it as much as if it were completely defragmented...
[05:46] <Jucato> !repositories
[05:46] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:46] <Dr_willis> TheGateKeeper,  yes..and i hate it
[05:46] <LjL> but what Dr_willis is saying is to boot windows *in order to defragment from there*, i think
[05:46] <Dr_willis> I dont care for desktop-widget-eyecandy
[05:46] <Jucato> !repositories > claudio
[05:46] <Dr_willis> The Gparted docs advise, scandisk and defrag befor and after using the program on a ntfs drive
[05:47] <tOnCola> :(
[05:47] <tOnCola> no-cd install fails
[05:47] <TheGateKeeper> Dr_willis: I found it the other day while poking around KDE in another distro, isn't it supposed to take the pain out of installing things from kde-look?
[05:48] <tOnCola> I am running suse, have some partition with xp on it. I bought a new 250G hd and I want to switch to kubuntu
[05:48] <Dr_willis> TheGateKeeper,  SUperKaramba has nothing to do with Themes.
[05:48] <tOnCola> I have a dvd-iso but no dvdplaye, nor cdplayer
[05:48] <tOnCola> I manage to get grub going on the xp-partition but the installer then keeps asking for a cd
[05:48] <tOnCola> what to do
[05:49] <Dr_willis> tOnCola,  got a spare pc? ya could try a network boot/install
[05:49] <tOnCola> :( nope
[05:49] <TheGateKeeper> Dr_willis: <ubotu> superkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE <--- So what does it do?
[05:49] <tOnCola> is there an easy option for a networ-install or such?
[05:50] <Dr_willis> TheGateKeeper,  adds desktop widgets and eye candly like i said.
[05:50] <Dr_willis> ->  I dont care for desktop-widget-eyecandy
[05:50] <Dr_willis>  :)
[05:50] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: desktop widgets/mini-apps
[05:50] <soulrider> !autostart
[05:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autostart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:50] <soulrider> !kde auto start
[05:50] <ubotu> kde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:45ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[05:51] <Jucato> soulrider: what are you looking for?
[05:51] <soulrider> where i can set up what i want to auto start :P
[05:51] <Jucato> ~/.kde/Autostart
[05:51] <soulrider> im gonna install http://forum.beryl-project.org/topic-689-xgl-kubuntu-automatic-xgl-installation and gotta make sure compiz isnt there
[05:52] <soulrider> is ti just one file ?
[05:52] <Jucato> soulrider: it's a directory
[05:52] <claudio> Jucato: i've installed it
[05:52] <soulrider> yea
[05:52] <claudio> now
[05:52] <soulrider> in it i got a file called
[05:52] <claudio> to install superkaramba
[05:52] <soulrider> directory
[05:54] <claudio> Jucato: are you here?
[05:54] <Dr_willis> fire up the package manager and search/click/install
[05:56] <claudio> Dr_willis: i searched superkaramba but there isn't
[05:57] <MetaMorfoziS> what program can save only the sound from a video dvd?
[05:57] <Mantits> While I'm busy cleaning my disk, I found a cool windows program called easycleaner that gets rid of many unwanted files.
[05:57] <Dr_willis> after   setting up the universe/multiverse repos. you must 'refresh' thepackage listing
[05:57] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get update
[05:57] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:57] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install superkaramba
[05:58] <octan> Jucato, have you tryed to block port 445 for ppp0 ? im thinking there is some sort of colision with the data paks when you start to transfere,,
[05:58] <Jucato> octan: I haven't. don't know how to block ports. but I won't be needing that until next week again. my sister will be going away so no more need to share stuff :P
[05:59] <octan> ok
[05:59] <Jucato> claudio: make sure that "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted" is enabled (use the guide that was linked to earlier)
[05:59] <Jucato> octan: thanks again for all the help :)
[05:59] <pexi> hi, i want to help with the traslation of power mannager to spanish, someone knows what  i have to do for help??
[06:00] <MetaMorfoziS> what program canplay dvd with menu etc...?
[06:00] <octan> Jucato, np.
[06:00] <Jucato> MetaMorfoziS: Kaffeine?
[06:00] <MetaMorfoziS> and how can i save only the sound from  video?
[06:00] <pexi> MetaMorfoziS:  for play dvds you can use kaffeine
[06:00] <MetaMorfoziS> kaff handles menus?
[06:01] <pexi> yes
[06:01] <claudio> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:01] <Jucato> yes
[06:01] <MetaMorfoziS> okay, and how can i save the sound from the video?
[06:01] <pexi> maybe you have to install some packets but kaffeine can
[06:01] <MetaMorfoziS> what program can do that?
[06:01] <Jucato> claudio: maybe Adept is already running?
[06:01] <Hawkwind> MetaMorfoziS: Have you looked at avidemux yet ?
[06:02] <MetaMorfoziS> oh... hmm i forget that:D
[06:02] <MetaMorfoziS> yes okay, i try
[06:02] <claudio> Jucato: I don't know
[06:03] <claudio> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:03] <claudio> claudio@claudio:~$
[06:04] <pexi> claudio close all terminals
[06:04] <claudio> i done
[06:04] <pexi> ok
[06:04] <claudio> i get another error
[06:04] <pexi> now, open one
[06:04] <claudio> it don't find superkaramba
[06:04] <pexi> and type killall adept_manager
[06:04] <Dr_willis> !info superkaramba
[06:04] <ubotu> superkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 504 kB, installed size 1376 kB
[06:05] <Danker> !info kompose
[06:05] <ubotu> kompose: full screen task manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.3-1.3 (dapper), package size 92 kB, installed size 432 kB
[06:05] <Dr_willis> !adept
[06:05] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[06:05] <Dr_willis> claudio,  id say read a few adept/synaptic howtos and learn to enable the repos/use the program. and figire out what step you missed
[06:06] <claudio> Dr_willis: I done
[06:06] <LjL> claudio: if you have enabled universe, but it still isn't working, try typing "sudo apt-get update" and trying again.
[06:07] <claudio> !universe
[06:07] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:07] <LjL> claudio: if it still doesn't work, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file to us
[06:08] <claudio> root@claudio:/home/claudio# apt-get install superkaramba
[06:09] <claudio> nothing...
[06:09] <LjL> !nothing
[06:09] <claudio> It doesn't find superkaramba
[06:09] <ubotu> Saying "I don't see anything", or "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you see a black screen, say so, if you see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an error message, say so, and which error it is, etc.
[06:09] <sredna> Is there a freenx package for kubuntu?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> logicially that tells us the repos are not set up correctly
[06:09] <Dr_willis> !info freenx
[06:09] <ubotu> freenx: The FreeNX application/thin-client server based on NX technology. In component freenx, is optional. Version 0.4.4+0.4.5-4ubuntu3 (dapper-seveas), package size 54 kB, installed size 256 kB
[06:09] <LjL> claudio: then you haven't correctly enabled universe, or you haven't updated your cache. please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin
[06:09] <octan> MetaMorfoziS avimerge
[06:10] <sredna> Ty, Dr_willis
[06:10] <claudio> LjL: is too long
[06:11] <LjL> claudio: no it isn't
[06:11] <LjL> !paste
[06:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:11] <sredna> Dr_willis: Any special apt source I need for that?
[06:12] <Dr_willis>  In component freenx, is optional.  -- WTF... is  that...
[06:12] <Dr_willis> !freenx
[06:12] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[06:12] <claudio> http://rafb.net/paste/results/T4SYI471.html
[06:12] <Dr_willis> there ya go
[06:12] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:12] <claudio> here it is
[06:12] <LjL> Dr_willis: deb [WWW]  http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx breezy-seveas freenx
[06:13] <MetaMorfoziS> octan: thanx, avidemux works well
[06:13] <LjL> Dr_willis: (scrap the [WWW] , i just copied and pasted from the browser)
[06:13] <octan> MetaMorfoziS, ok
[06:13] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:14] <claudio> LjL: http://rafb.net/paste/results/T4SYI471.html
[06:14] <claudio> LjL: http://rafb.net/paste/results/T4SYI471.html
[06:14] <claudio> ops
[06:14] <claudio> sorry
[06:14] <claudio> :D
[06:14] <LjL> claudio: you don't have universe enabled.  uncomment lines 16, 17, 31, 32
[06:15] <LjL> where by "uncomment" i mean "remove the leading # sign and space"
[06:15] <octan> 26 & 27 too
[06:16] <LjL> octan: uhm no, not really, unless he does positively wants backports... but there's a reason why they're uncommented by default
[06:17] <claudio> LjL: i done
[06:17] <claudio> thanks
[06:17] <claudio> :)
[06:18] <LjL> claudio: now run "sudo apt-get update", and then you should be able to install
[06:18] <claudio> I done at all
[06:18] <LjL> ok
[06:19] <davey486> is there a difference between the dvd version and the cd version of the kubuntu download?
[06:20] <TheHighChild> more packages
[06:20] <octan> im thinking replasing one of my debian sarge server with ubuntu server install.. is it worth the effort?
[06:21] <Dr_willis> the dvd is the live cd + the install cd.. I think
[06:21] <octan> Dt
[06:21] <octan> erm
[06:21] <davey486> ok, thanks, is it packages that i could get from syaptic anyway if i didn't download the dvd?
[06:21] <muslim> how can i add firefox to my " K Menu " ?
[06:21] <Dr_willis> muslim,  did you install firefox yet?
[06:22] <TheHighChild> muslim: right click on the menu and edit menu. create a new entry, give the location of firefox and save it
[06:22] <octan> Dr_willis, i mean like.. would you have done it?
[06:22] <muslim> yes
[06:22] <TheHighChild> muslim: If you installed with apt-get or something of the sort, it will be in there when you restart x
[06:22] <Dr_willis> If you install firefox - it should add an icon.. if nto theres a command that can refresh themenu list..
[06:22] <Dr_willis> or just log out/back in
[06:22] <Dr_willis> i never can rember the command
[06:22] <muslim> and i could only run it using the command
[06:23] <octan> Dr_willis, have you tested the server version of ubuntu ?
[06:23] <Dr_willis> octan,  not really
[06:23] <muslim> i typed "firefox" .. it runned succefully ..
[06:23] <claudio> any idea to solve compilation problem of kernel 2.6.9?
[06:23] <muslim> ok - i'll try
[06:23] <octan> hmm
[06:23] <Dr_willis> muslim,  the menus just havent refreshed
[06:23] <LjL> davey486: sure
[06:23] <LjL> davey486: you can download everything that ubuntu has from synaptic
[06:23] <Dr_willis> octan,  i got a ubuntufileserver set up in the basement..  but its just a normal ubuntu install
[06:24] <octan> alright.. im running a bit more..
[06:24] <octan> postfix. pop3 fileserver "nfs and ftp"
[06:24] <octan> oon my debian
[06:25] <LjL> claudio: is there a really, really compelling reason why you absolutely need that lzma support? compiling your own kernel -- especially an older version -- is only going to cause you trouble IMHO
[06:25] <octan> right,, im gonna go read some about it
[06:25] <balilu> hello is there any way to get back the default theme?? im running kubuntu edgy beta
[06:26] <claudio> LjL: I must build firmwire for an embedded system
[06:26] <xabi> hi
[06:27] <claudio> and this firmware uses fs squash+LZMA
[06:28] <xabi> hi everyone, i'm new to kde, switched from gnome :), how are you doing?
[06:28] <arunkale> ok i think i f***ed something up pretty bad.. i changed my gamma settings and restarted x, and now my resolution has changed into some weird 834xsomething (it was 1024x768 before), and the screen is all shaky
[06:28] <knubbe> anyone who run kde 3.5.4? i upgraded two days ago and today, when im using the computer, kde has restarted itself twice.
[06:28] <arunkale> can someone tell me how i can fix this
[06:29] <LjL> claudio: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=478176
[06:29] <xabi> arunkale, are you using edgy?
[06:29] <arunkale> no, i'm on dapper drake
[06:29] <arunkale> it was working fine till i restarted x after changing the color & gamma settings
[06:29] <arunkale> there hasn't been any change in the colour as far as i can tell, but the resolution is all messed up
[06:29] <arunkale> and my applications extend beyond the scope of my screen
[06:29] <xabi> then dunno, try doing an update if it's sill crashing try posting into forums
[06:30] <LjL> claudio: also, http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/12/17/50
[06:30] <xabi> it maybe a drivers problem, what graphics card are you using?
[06:30] <arunkale> how can i revert to my default settings?
[06:31] <xabi> try doing in konsole "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and follow the steps
[06:31] <arunkale> s3 pro savage?
[06:31] <claudio> what is seg. 5 patch?
[06:31] <arunkale> ok holdon
[06:32] <LjL> claudio: i don't really have a clue, but the second link does tell you how to find it. it's probably a patch you should apply to your kernel tree using the "patch" command.
[06:32] <arunkale> what do i change there
[06:32] <xabi> just follow the steps
[06:32] <xabi> I supouse there must be some "s3" driver or the like for your card
[06:33] <xabi> I "supouse" cause I've never had an S3
[06:33] <raven79> hi all
[06:33] <xabi> hi raven
[06:33] <raven79> hi xabi
[06:33] <arunkale> xabi: done
[06:33] <raven79> wow a person that answer me :D
[06:33] <arunkale> xabi: now do i restart x?
[06:33] <xabi> yep
[06:33] <raven79> hi arunkale
[06:34] <arunkale> hi raven79
[06:34] <arunkale> brb
[06:34] <raven79> xabi do you know iptables?
[06:34] <xabi> a bit
[06:34] <xabi> ask and I'll tell you if I can
[06:34] <raven79> ok i tried to ask into iptables channel but people does not speak with me :'(
[06:34] <raven79> ok
[06:35] <raven79> i will copy messages
[06:35] <raven79> it's a bit long
[06:35] <octan> hehe
[06:35] <raven79> please be patiente
[06:35] <xabi> then use pastebin
[06:35] <raven79> hi octan
[06:35] <octan> hi
[06:35] <raven79> of course
[06:35] <xabi> do not paste a bunch of lines into channel
[06:35] <xabi> ok
[06:35] <octan> !paste
[06:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:36] <raven79> i understood that after /etc/init.d/iptables save it create
[06:36] <xabi> did it work arunkale?
[06:36] <arunkale> xabi: yay it worked!!!
[06:36] <raven79>  a rule file and after that iptables always read/write that file
[06:36] <arunkale> thank you so much
[06:36] <raven79>  (i changed the file name into /etc/conf.d/iptables but i don't know this feature...so now after disinstalling and reinstalling it i understood)
[06:36] <raven79> but now i get this crash:
[06:36] <raven79> this is my iptables rule file: http://pastebin.es/27
[06:36] <xabi> noprob :)
[06:36] <raven79>  and this is iptables crash: http://pastebin.es/28
[06:36] <raven79> but when i started iptables with its command (command suggested by gentoo): /etc/init.d/iptables save it creates a file
[06:36] <raven79>  and with that rule file it does not crash
[06:36] <raven79> the file is this: http://pastebin.es/29
[06:36] <raven79>  now i cannot understand why it does not work with my iptables rule file...could you help me, please?
[06:36] <raven79>  (i left comments as there are important for iptables...as i understood)
[06:37] <xabi> hmm, lettme take a look
[06:37] <balilu> hello is there any way to get back the default theme?? im running kubuntu edgy beta
[06:37] <raven79> **** thats the most important part ****
[06:37] <raven79> hi balilu
[06:37] <raven79> ok xabi thanks a lot
[06:37] <balilu> hi
[06:37] <balilu> any ideas
[06:37] <raven79> kde theme?
[06:38] <balilu> yes
[06:38] <raven79> ok control center
[06:38] <raven79> and then try plastik theme
[06:38] <balilu> yes
[06:38] <xabi> really strange raven79 it should not crash on that line
[06:38] <balilu> no i tried didn't come
[06:38] <raven79> it should be the default theme generally
[06:38] <xabi> I mean, rule is ok
[06:38] <raven79> xabi: infact...it's empty!
[06:38] <balilu> can you save your default theme and send it to me?
[06:39] <balilu> as a theme file
[06:39] <arunkale> ok xabi i got another one
[06:39] <raven79> balilu: i don't know how to do that...
[06:39] <xabi> no, I mean, the rule that follows is well written
[06:39] <arunkale> apparently i'm not being able to open a rar file
[06:39] <xabi> and you say that if you use the "save" option at launching the command it works nice?
[06:39] <raven79> xabi infact it should be rigth as i previously used those rules
[06:39] <octan> raven79, why do you use your firewall like that ?
[06:40] <xabi> arunkale: try to install unrar
[06:40] <arunkale> xabi: it says "The utility unrar is not in your PATH. Please install it or contact your system administrator"
[06:40] <octan> i mean... it a weird way your doing it
[06:40] <arunkale> i tried to open it with ark
[06:40] <raven79> octan: i did not understood you...what you mean...(sorry my english...)
[06:40] <balilu> raven79: go to control centre --> theme manager --> then press create new theme and youll fin it in /home/balilu/.kde/share/apps/kthememanager/themes as .kth
[06:40] <raven79> ok balilu i try
[06:40] <xabi> arunkale: install it, "sudo aptitude install unrar"
[06:40] <octan> raven79 your firewall suxz
[06:40] <balilu> raven79: 10x
[06:40] <raven79> octan: why?
[06:40] <arunkale> xabi: ok installing unrar
[06:40] <octan> i mean the script
[06:41] <arunkale> i did a sudo apt-get install unrar
[06:41] <xabi> arunkale: now try "unrar filename"
[06:41] <arunkale> its still installing :)
[06:41] <raven79> xabi it works well with "/etc/init.d/iptables save" because system creates a standard file
[06:41] <xabi> ah ok
[06:42] <arunkale> is unrar a commandline application?
[06:42] <xabi> arunkale: yes
[06:42] <raven79> ocatan what you mean with it sucks....is it wrong? where?
[06:42] <arunkale> how do i unrar something from a cd? what path do i give
[06:42] <octan> raven79, why do you even bother to save the iptable? why dont you make a script that starts new rules each time you start the firewall
[06:43] <eric> !mov
[06:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mov - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:43] <xabi> arunkale:  usually the path for a cd in K/Ubuntu is /media/cdrom0
[06:43] <eric> !.mov
[06:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mov - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <raven79> iptables cames with three commands: iptables, iptables-save (to print out all iptables current rules...you could redirect them into a file) and iptables-restore to load rules from a file
[06:44] <hastesaver> eric, see !restricted
[06:44] <raven79> into a guide i read that iptables-save/restore
[06:44] <raven79> are better
[06:44] <balilu> raven79: any luck?
[06:44] <eric> !restricted
[06:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:44] <eric> thanks
[06:44] <raven79> and suggested...because they load/store rules into "one move"
[06:44] <xabi> sorry raven79, I still don't see why your config fails, I supouse I'm not that "expert"
[06:44] <xabi> :(
[06:45] <raven79> xabi: thanks a lot!!!! i'm not expert me too...
[06:45] <raven79> but you help is appreciated
[06:45] <arunkale> xabi: i got an error
[06:45] <xabi> no prob :)
[06:45] <octan> raven79,
[06:45] <zorglu_> arunkale: unrar is in universe
[06:45] <xabi> arunkale: tellme
[06:45] <arunkale> i'll pastebin it
[06:45] <octan> cat /etc/init.d/iptables |sed -n "57p"
[06:46] <octan> whats there?
[06:46] <raven79> it should be an empty line
[06:46] <raven79> anyway...
[06:46] <raven79> please wait
[06:46] <raven79> # cat /etc/init.d/iptables |sed -n "57p"
[06:46] <raven79> start() {
[06:47] <raven79> no it's not an empty line
[06:47] <octan> ok its the start function
[06:47] <zorglu_> iptable are very complex to setup, why not use a tool to make it easier ?
[06:47] <claudio> http://rafb.net/paste/results/YdqaLz58.html
[06:47] <claudio> another error
[06:47] <octan> SCREW. iptables-save and set up you rules in a script.
[06:48] <arunkale> xabi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25988/
[06:48] <raven79> ocatan how can i crew iptables-save?
[06:48] <raven79> i cannot understand "crew"
[06:48] <zorglu_> arunkale: "unrar -e yourfile.rar"
[06:48] <xabi> arunkale: linux does not handle empty spaces like that
[06:49] <arunkale> ah okay
[06:49] <xabi> try using the tab (the tab autocompletes route to the file)
[06:49] <raven79> balilu: i created theme but now i don't know where it was saved
[06:49] <zorglu_> unrar e yourfile.rar" even
[06:49] <arunkale> i tried unrar e
[06:49] <arunkale> i got an error
[06:49] <octan> raven79, i said.. screw.. like to hell with iptables-save. it just makes you life bad. as you can see
[06:49] <arunkale> i tried unrar -e now, and i'm getting 'cannot open in .rar'
[06:49] <xabi> arunkale: ok follow my steps
[06:50] <xabi> type unrar -e
[06:50] <raven79> ah so you can say to me that all my error is due to iptables-save?
[06:50] <arunkale> okay
[06:50] <balilu> raven79: it should be in  $home/.kde/share/apps/kthememanager/themes
[06:50] <balilu> raven79: $home is your home directory
[06:50] <arunkale> and?
[06:50] <raven79> balilu: i lost my previous theme :'(
[06:50] <xabi> type /media/cdrom0
[06:50] <raven79> balilu: of couse even it is $HOME ;)
[06:51] <raven79> octan: how can i let it works?
[06:51] <balilu> raven79: did you change your theme?
[06:51] <octan> raven79, herss a simple firewall without iptables-save http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25989/
[06:51] <raven79> balilu: yes because i was not using plastik theme
[06:51] <arunkale> xabi: am i supposed to type all this in different lines? or one after the other
[06:51] <zorglu_> "unrar e /media/cdrom0/Lost\ in\ Translation.rar" <- cut/paste what is between the quote after following the xabi steps, raven79
[06:51] <raven79> you email balilu
[06:52] <arunkale> zorglu, you mean me :)
[06:52] <arunkale> zorglu_ : its working :)
[06:52] <arunkale> thanks
[06:52] <balilu> raven79: no i tought you were using your default theme. im pretty sure it's abit useless to send it because it wont be the exact default theme but still ....
[06:52] <zorglu_ar> arunkale: thanks xabi
[06:52] <arunkale> thanks xabi :)
[06:52] <xabi> arunkale: sry, my mother called
[06:52] <arunkale> thanks to both of you :D
[06:53] <balilu> raven79: balilu @ hotmail.com
[06:54] <raven79> balilu: ok
[06:54] <xabi> arunkale: don't worry, with the time you'll begin to like the power a shell offers;)
[06:54] <arunkale> :)
[06:55] <xabi> arunkale: ah another thing, if you hit the "tab" button as you type a filename, shell will complete it for you
[06:55] <hastesaver> You could also have just used "rar x <filename>" ...
[06:55] <arunkale> on really?
[06:55] <arunkale> oh really*?
[06:55] <xabi> yeap try it
[06:55] <larson9999> for me it's funny to hear people being afraid of the shell since i used dos in windows all the time.  i forgot many people who use windows have hardly seen the dos shell.  i suppose there are kde/gnome folks the same way in linux
[06:56] <arunkale> kubuntu looks so cool
[06:56] <raven79> balilu: sent
[06:56] <xabi> I switched from gnome cause kde has better develop eviroments
[06:56] <zorglu_> xabi: which ide do you use ?
[06:57] <xabi> quanta and kdevelop, and of course kate for perl/python scripts
[06:57] <raven79> someone could help me with sed? i cannot remove a starting space: cat file | cut -d'.' -f2 | sed 's:^ :g'
[06:57] <larson9999> don't/can't they have the same environments?
[06:57] <raven79> wont work
[06:57] <zorglu_> xabi, kdevelop works for you ? i only get core dump out of it....
[06:58] <zorglu_> xabi: i use eclipse for c++... far from perfect... but i know it
[06:58] <hastesaver> raven79, are you trying to learn sed, or just get the job done in this one case (removing starting spaces from lines)?
[06:58] <hastesaver> raven79, because the task is much easier in vi or emacs :-)
[06:59] <raven79> only removing starting space from a file copied from paste bin
[06:59] <raven79> each line starts with this form: #number.<space><line>
[06:59] <raven79> each line starts with this form: number.<space><line>
[07:00] <raven79> hastesaver how can i do it with emacs?
[07:00] <raven79> (usually i use it)
[07:00] <xabi> zorglu_: it works well for me, but I'm also thinking to switch to codeblocks, it looks it could be the perfect one
[07:00] <hastesaver> raven79, M-x regexp-replace ...
[07:00] <hastesaver> raven79, er, M-x replace-regexp
[07:00] <zorglu_> xabi: never tried this one, is it good for c++ ?
[07:00] <raven79> hastesaver: ok and the right regexp?
[07:01] <zorglu_> googlin
[07:01] <raven79> hastesaver: uses it the same/standard  simbols?
[07:01] <xabi> sorry, wrong button XD
[07:02] <hastesaver> raven79, yes. "^[0-9] +. " should work
[07:02] <raven79> with what?
[07:02] <zorglu_> xabi: no dev on codeblocks during the last year tho...
[07:03] <raven79> i change ^[0-9] +. with ....?
[07:03] <hastesaver> raven79, with empty (just hit RET)
[07:03] <arunkale> anyone here a fellow ktorrent fan?
[07:03] <raven79> ok thanks!
[07:03] <xabi> you kidding?, last nighty build is from 4th oct
[07:04] <hastesaver> raven79, it worked?
[07:04] <zorglu_> xabi: oh ? i just read the 'news' on the website and the last is 5th oct 2005
[07:04] <raven79> hastesaver: thanks...but why these other regexp does not work: "[[:digit:] ] *" with ret
[07:04] <raven79> hastesaver: yes
[07:04] <xabi> dive into the forums
[07:05] <hastesaver> raven79, I don't know if Emacs understands "[[:digit:] ] ". let me look...
[07:05] <raven79> hastesaver:  sorry "[[:digit:] ] *." with ret
[07:05] <raven79> ok hastesaver thanks
[07:05] <xabi> rc2 is from that date, but they still working hard; code completion has been totally revamped
[07:05] <zorglu_> xabi: oh ok, cool then :) i dont like to use unmaintained code
[07:05] <trappist> raven79: tried \d insteald of [[:digit:] ] 
[07:05] <Dendron> Hey everyone. Can someone test my webserver and tell me if it is working? http://72.92.94.54/
[07:05] <trappist> *instead
[07:06] <raven79> octan: so now i must insert that file into /etc/conf.d/local.start
[07:06] <arunkale> Dendron: what am i supposed to see there
[07:06] <raven79> or something like that
[07:06] <xabi> Dendron: nop, not working
[07:06] <raven79> right?
[07:06] <Dendron> this " =)
[07:06] <Dendron> are you getting timed out or denied?
[07:06] <xabi> time out
[07:06] <trappist> Dendron: it's going to time out
[07:06] <Dendron> ok thank you both of you
[07:07] <Dendron> all of you
[07:07] <xabi> :)
[07:07] <arunkale> time out
[07:07] <xabi> ok ppl, gotta leave, it's time for some eve online playing :) , seeya
[07:09] <raven79> octan: are you there?
[07:09] <trappist> raven79: for future reference, perl -pi -e 's/^\s*//g' filename  <-- will remove any leading spaces/tabs
[07:10] <raven79> trappist: wow...yes but i don't know perl ;)
[07:10] <trappist> raven79: you don't have to!  just put a sed expression between the quotes, then a filename
[07:10] <raven79> trappist: ah...but why?
[07:10] <raven79> i must leave sorry
[07:10] <raven79> bye and thanks all
[07:11] <arunkale> xabi: on a lot of websites, i can see light grey as light pink.. how do i adjust it?
[07:12] <trappist> arunkale: take off the rose-colored glasses?
[07:12] <arunkale> trappist: haha
[07:12] <Dendron> Someone test my webServer. One more time and thats it for now. http://72.92.94.54:7856
[07:13] <arunkale> Dendron: it works
[07:13] <arunkale> i see a = )
[07:13] <Dendron> sweet! I guess my ISP is blovking homer webservers on port 80
[07:13] <Dendron> thanx!
[07:13] <Dendron> home* heh
[07:14] <arunkale> trappist: seriously, how do i adjust the colour settings?
[07:14] <trappist> arunkale: does it only happen on websites?  (ie, is it just your browser?)
[07:15] <arunkale> yeah, it happens only on websites
[07:15] <trappist> Dendron: that's what it looks like.  other possibilities are: you're behind a router that's not forwarding it, or your you've got a firewall
[07:15] <trappist> arunkale: what browser
[07:15] <arunkale> trappist: firefox, konqueror, opera
[07:15] <arunkale> konqueror is worse than the other 2
[07:16] <arunkale> as far as the pink goes
[07:16] <trappist> arunkale: if they all do it, I'd sure expect to see the same thing outside the browser
[07:16] <arunkale> trappist: actually, hold on, it happens outside the browser as well.. it's only for certain hues of grey
[07:16] <trappist> arunkale: you might consider tinkering with your monitor settings.  I can't think of a software issue that would cause it, but I could be wrong
[07:17] <arunkale> trappist: i tried tinkering with my monitor settings a while ago, and my display went for a toss
[07:17] <trappist> yeah that can go wrong for sure
[07:17] <trappist> been there
[07:17] <arunkale> so there's really no way to fix this?
[07:17] <arunkale> do you see pink?
[07:17] <claudio> http://rafb.net/paste/results/YdqaLz58.html
[07:17] <claudio> what is this?
[07:17] <trappist> arunkale: I'm certain there is, I just don't know what it is :)  but if it was happening to me, I'd try adjusting the hue on my monitor
[07:18] <arunkale> trappist: what are your colour and gamma settings?
[07:18] <trappist> claudio: a compile error
[07:18] <trappist> arunkale: on my monitor?  factory defaults
[07:18] <arunkale> can you PM me the values?
[07:19] <trappist> arunkale: I wouldn't know how to get the values, but my values aren't necessarily appropriate for your monitor.  is yours an lcd?
[07:19] <hastesaver> trappist, doesn't your monitor have a "reset to factory defaults" option?
[07:19] <frst> hola...
[07:19] <arunkale> trappist: no it isnt
[07:19] <trappist> hastesaver: yeah, that's how I finally unscrewed the mistakes I made trying to adjust gamma
[07:20] <frst> como puedo hacer para que konsole "mantenga" mas lineas. Por que por ejemplo cuando salen 120 lineas, solo me muestra las ultimas 100 y las otras 20 desaparecen.
[07:20] <trappist> arunkale: mine is, and there will be disparity between the right settings for mine and the right settings for yours.  also, mine just shows like a progress bar, not a numeric value
[07:20] <cutt> don't really know if this is kubuntu-specific, but here goes: when I try to ./configure I get this message: "configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check"
[07:20] <frst> no encuentro la opcion para aumentar el numero de lineas "oportadas"
[07:20] <trappist> !es
[07:20] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:20] <cutt> what could this mean?
[07:20] <frst> zorry
[07:20] <hastesaver> trappist, oops, I meant to ask not you :-)
[07:20] <frst> ups!
[07:20] <arunkale> trappist: there's no numeric value at the end of the progress bar?
[07:20] <hastesaver> arunkale,  doesn't your monitor have a "reset to factory defaults" option?
[07:21] <trappist> cutt: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:21] <cutt> okay, thanks!
[07:21] <arunkale> hastesaver: nope
[07:21] <arunkale> hastesaver: i haven't changed my factory defaullts, i want to :)
[07:21] <hastesaver> cutt, but first make sure whatever you're installing isn't in the repos already
[07:21] <trappist> that too
[07:22] <trappist> looks like an atm driver?!
[07:22] <trappist> who uses that?
[07:23] <trappist> cutt: if you're trying to build a kernel module, also sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[07:23] <cutt> it's some theme-skin I'm trying to install :)
[07:23] <hastesaver> cutt, skin for what?
[07:23] <cutt> kde
[07:24] <dave> what are the kernel headers for?
[07:24] <trappist> oh wait, I'm looking at somebody else's paste :)
[07:24] <trappist> nevermind
[07:24] <trappist> dave: they're for building kernel modules
[07:24] <dave> They represent the abi?
[07:24] <trappist> dave: yes
[07:25] <dave> Thanks
[07:25] <trappist> dave: not 100% though.  there are some modules that need the full source - headers won't suffice
[07:26] <geecko> hi, anyone have a minute for a kde hanging problem?
[07:26] <zam> i have just install "kubuntu" but can i install kde 3.5.4 and how ?
[07:27] <trappist> zam: put a line in your /etc/apt/sources.list like this: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main
[07:28] <trappist> zam: then sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:29] <arunkale> man, i cant wait for Edge on the 26th
[07:29] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:29] <arunkale> Edgy*
[07:29] <trappist> arunkale: you don't really have to :)
[07:29] <zam> trappist:  thanks alot
[07:29] <arunkale> i dont?
[07:30] <trappist> arunkale: you can upgrade now.  it's not officially "stable" but it's in pretty good shape.
[07:30] <arunkale> what if things break :p
[07:30] <trappist> I've been running it for 5 or 6 weeks on all my boxes
[07:30] <arunkale> oh okay..
[07:30] <trappist> arunkale: what would you do if things broke now? ;)
[07:30] <arunkale> and how big is the upgrade?
[07:30] <trappist> big.
[07:30] <arunkale> like 600mb+ ?
[07:31] <trappist> depends what you have installed
[07:31] <trappist> pretty much every package will be upgraded
[07:31] <Hawkwind> arunkale: Probably best to do a fresh install since the init script system has been completely redone and replaced with upstart
[07:31] <trappist> Hawkwind: in my experience that upgrade goes pretty smoothly
[07:31] <Hawkwind> trappist: I tried it 3 times, all 3 failed, miserably
[07:31] <trappist> Hawkwind: unless the "shutdown doesn't work the first time" bug is still open
[07:32] <trappist> Hawkwind: twice here, worked both times
[07:32] <Blacken> !upstart
[07:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upstart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:32] <trappist> ow, ubotu better learn about upstart
[07:32] <trappist> wish I could remember where those great links were
[07:32] <Blacken> Yeah, that's why I was wondering.
[07:32] <trappist> oh wait
[07:33] <Blacken> !init
[07:33] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[07:33] <octan> !bootup > Blacken
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <octan> lol
[07:33] <Blacken> octan: I know about it. I was poking it. Should have done it in a message, but meh.
[07:33] <octan> alright
[07:34] <trappist> !upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReplacementInitDiscussion for details.
[07:34] <Hawkwind> trappist: http://www.netsplit.com/blog/articles/2006/09/01/upstart-can-now-replace-sysvinit
[07:35] <octan> !init-ng
[07:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about init-ng - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:35] <trappist> Hawkwind: maybe it should just be http://upstart.ubuntu.com/, which links to both of those and others
[07:36] <geecko> my kde apps like konqueror and ksystemlog are all hanging (stopping completely) when I start them, where would be a good place to start digging?
[07:36] <Hawkwind> trappist: Ahhh, that's the URL I thought I had bookmarked
[07:36] <Hawkwind> trappist: You want the same description and that link then ?
[07:36] <trappist> Hawkwind: that'd work
[07:37] <zam> why i cant run any kde program as root
[07:37] <zam> KCrash: Application 'konqueror' crashing...
[07:37] <zam> Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory
[07:37] <zam> KCrash cannot reach kdeinit, launching directly.
[07:37] <TheGateKeeper> geecko: well you could use badblocks to see if you have a corrupt hdd, I presume this has just started?
[07:37] <Blacken> zam: root doesn't have an X window. sudo to it.
[07:37] <octan> zam, kdesu konqueror
[07:37] <geecko> TheGateKeeper: yeah, just started
[07:37] <trappist> zam: root wants to have its own kde backend running.  use kdesu.
[07:38] <Blacken> What's the difference between kdesu and sudo?
[07:38] <TheGateKeeper> geecko: not after an install?
[07:38] <Blacken> Sudo works for all my programs, it seems.
[07:38] <Hawkwind> !upstart > trappist
[07:38] <tzirk> hi.....someone can help me with ndiswrapper?
[07:39] <Blacken> I hope that upstart can be seamless, at least. I don't like init, but it does work for most stuff. I hope it's standardized, too...seriously don't want to see Ubuntu floating off into space while everyone else is using the same system.
[07:39] <Hawkwind> trappist: That good for ya :)
[07:39] <geecko> TheGateKeeper: I just reinstalled kubuntu yesterday, is that what you mean?
[07:39] <trappist> Hawkwind: works, thanks :)
[07:39] <Hawkwind> No problem
[07:39] <Hawkwind> !ndiswrapper > tzirk
[07:39] <Hawkwind> tzirk: Have you read the info the bot just sent you in pm yet ?
[07:40] <TheGateKeeper> geecko: ohhh, well that could be bad media, bad install etc etc
[07:40] <arunkale> apparently, you can install wordpress directly from adept
[07:41] <trappist> Hawkwind: aw, I didn't mean for it to look up the package.  it used to have its own definition.
[07:41] <TheGateKeeper> geecko: start with the CD do the self test, then if that is ok check your hard disk, go from there...
[07:41] <zeuz> heh..need help
[07:41] <zeuz> :D
[07:41] <zeuz> romanian helper
[07:42] <Thonolan> Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkentry.c: line 440 (gtk_entry_set_text): assertion `text != NULL' failed.
[07:42] <Thonolan> any german helper here ?
[07:42] <jeff_hann> zeus:do tell
[07:42] <Hawkwind> trappist: Type this:  ipkungfu is <reply> Your definition here
[07:42] <jeff_hann> *zeuz
[07:42] <sF|Xemanth^> how can i mount reiserfs partition in fstab that its writable&execable by normal user.... i have now line: UUID=0455fd2c-b484-4277-ba9d-bbf2d2e20ff9 /media/stuff  reiserfs user,exec,rw 0 2 | as root i can do there what i want but no go with my user
[07:42] <zeuz> da ?
[07:42] <jeff_hann> da
[07:42] <Hawkwind> trappist: That will add it's own definition.  If there isn't a definition, it reverts to package details by default
[07:42] <trappist> Hawkwind: yeah, I did that before.  maybe it gets overridden because it's a package name?
[07:42] <trappist> ic
[07:42] <oem> can anyone tell me how to set the default OS in grub when multi-booting?
[07:42] <zeuz> vreau sa folosesc remote desktop pe kubuntu..
[07:42] <jeff_hann> zeuz:pm
[07:43] <jeff_hann> luam ban altfel :)
[07:43] <arunkale> has anyone here installed xampp
[07:43] <TheGateKeeper> oem: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:43] <zam> trappist:  thanks alot
[07:43] <tzirk> Someone can help me about: ndiswrapper (NdisWriteErrorLogEntry:237): log: C000138D, count: 3, return_address: cfb85b8d ?
[07:43] <Thonolan> can anyone tell what i do wrong becuase i get such a message ?
[07:43] <Thonolan> Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkentry.c: line 440 (gtk_entry_set_text): assertion `text != NULL' failed.
[07:43] <oem> ok will try
[07:43] <trappist> !de
[07:43] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:43] <TheGateKeeper> !grub > oem
[07:44] <zeuz> jeff_hann:  nu ppot sa iti dau pm
[07:44] <Hawkwind> tzirk: Have you read the information the bot pm'd you with yet ?
[07:44] <zeuz> nush de ce :|
[07:44] <TheGateKeeper> oem it's easy enough just take care & back it up before you start
[07:44] <tzirk> Hawkwind: yes
[07:44] <Thonolan> i have big problems with the font in my teamspeak prog
[07:45] <Hawkwind> tzirk: Then can you be a bit more descriptive of what you need help with exactly.  Tell us what you've tried, how it fails, what steps you've taken to try and fix it so far
[07:45] <geecko> TheGateKeeper: k, thanks. i'll give it a shot from there
[07:45] <Thonolan> if i want to swich it over switch i get these meassage
[07:45] <jeff_hann> ti-am trimis pm
[07:45] <jeff_hann> esti inregistrat la freenode?
[07:45] <tzirk> on channel?
[07:45] <zeuz> nu sunt
[07:45] <Hawkwind> tzirk: That would be best so anyone here can see it and possibly help you
[07:45] <jeff_hann> pai de aia
[07:45] <tzirk> ok
[07:46] <Hawkwind> zeuz: jeff_hann: Can you both speak english here please
[07:46] <jeff_hann> intra pe canalul numit schaiba
[07:46] <TheGateKeeper> geecko: good luck, process of elimination, could also be a bad burn if you recently burned the cd
[07:46] <jeff_hann> sorry
[07:46] <Thonolan> thx ubotu
[07:46] <TheGateKeeper> Thonolan: it's a bot :-)
[07:46] <geecko> TheGateKeeper: its one of the shipit cds, so...
[07:46] <Thonolan> ;)
[07:46] <Thonolan> ty :)
[07:47] <TheGateKeeper> geecko: well you never know, do the self test :-)
[07:47] <vasya> 
[07:47] <Thonolan> TheGateKeeper but at least the only who answered :)
[07:47] <TheGateKeeper> Thonolan: someone fired it at you :-)
[07:48] <geecko> TheGateKeeper: k
[07:48] <Thonolan> :)
[07:48] <tzirk> i'm installing a wireless pcmcia adapter.....in this momenti iwconfig see my pcmcia but i can't access to internet by the pcmcia.....but the principal problem is that in the dmesg i see many message like:  ndiswrapper (NdisWriteErrorLogEntry:237): log: C000138D, count: 3, return_address: cfb85b8d
[07:48] <TheGateKeeper> !ru
[07:48] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[07:48] <Thonolan> TheGateKeeper thanks :)
[07:49] <tzirk> and when I restart ubuntu this messages go in loop and i must put off the system
[07:51] <tzirk> and when I restart ubuntu this messages go in loop and i must power off the system
[07:54] <tzirk> Hawkwind: nothing that can help me?
[07:54] <Hawkwind> tzirk: Hang around a bit and someone is liable to have information to help you.  I don't use nor have a need for ndiswrapper so I don't know anything about it really
[07:56] <tzirk> ok, thank you :-)
[07:58] <sF|Xemanth^> > UUID=0455fd2c-b484-4277-ba9d-bbf2d2e20ff9 /media/stuff    reiserfs      user,exec,rw,suid  0       2 <- and when i mount this, mount mounts it for root
[07:58] <sF|Xemanth^> why?
[07:59] <sF|Xemanth^> i want it to be writable by user with exec
[08:00] <tzirk> I must reboot..... networking application doesn't start more......this is another problem...... if i try to config the wireless card by "networking" or other program it freezes and I can't close it and doesn't restart
[08:01] <tzirk> and i must restart by ctrl+alt+del
[08:01] <tzirk> bye...
[08:02] <arunkale> how do i create a .zip archive?
[08:03] <zeuz> vreun helper roman care ma poate ajuta cu vmware ?
[08:03] <tsdgeos> arunkale: ark
[08:03] <tsdgeos> or basically, just right click on the files you want to zip and use the context menu
[08:03] <zorglu_> zeuz, this is a english channel, what is the language you are using ?
[08:04] <zeuz> english zorglu_ but i don-t understand english
[08:04] <zeuz> sorry :p
[08:04] <arunkale> thanks!
[08:04] <arunkale> tsdgeos
[08:04] <silox> anyone who knows how to configure xorg.conf / nvidia to twinview the screen to a TV?
[08:05] <zorglu_> zeuz, no problem. what do you speak ?
[08:05] <zeuz> romanian :)
[08:05] <zorglu_> !ro
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <zorglu_> !ron
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ron - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <zeuz> !ro vmware help
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ro vmware help - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:06] <zorglu_> there is no romanian channel ?
[08:06] <zeuz> international :)
[08:06] <zorglu_> zeuz, yep but in english :)
[08:06] <zorglu_> !vmware
[08:06] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[08:07] <zeuz> mdah
[08:14] <Cinderello> hola
[08:15] <puttlick> shoo
[08:17] <puttlick> someone knows if it's some plugin for connecting ntfs disc avaible?
[08:20] <TheGateKeeper> puttlick: repo for ntfs-3g --> deb http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/ dapper main
[08:21] <TheGateKeeper> puttlick: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=2697&thread_id=23836054
[08:23] <me__> puttlick....try ntfs.org
[08:23] <me__> oops..
[08:24] <TheGateKeeper> :-)
[08:24] <GeorgeM36Gr> Hello
[08:25] <TheGateKeeper> hi
[08:25] <GeorgeM36Gr> Hi gate....
[08:25] <GeorgeM36Gr> I need to ask a question... about kubuntu
[08:25] <GeorgeM36Gr> may I?
[08:25] <me__> so I installed some stuff with the adept package manager...but I cant find them on the shortcuts (kmenu)....is there a way to copy shortcuts or add to kmenu?
[08:25] <TheGateKeeper> just ask :-)
[08:25] <TheGateKeeper> !ask > GeorgeM36Gr
[08:26] <GeorgeM36Gr> I have downloaded Kubuntu 6.06.1 LTS (Dapper Drake) - 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD and trying to install it on a Core2Duo E6600 system it but it freezes...any ideas?
[08:26] <tsdgeos> is core duo 64 bits?
[08:26] <GeorgeM36Gr> yes
[08:26] <GeorgeM36Gr> EMT64
[08:26] <TheGateKeeper> me__: yep, right click on kicker (think that is what it is called) & select menu editor
[08:27] <me__> thanks gate
[08:27] <TheGateKeeper> me__: yw :-)
[08:28] <GeorgeM36Gr> it says booting kernel. and it stops....
[08:28] <me__> <--windows intermediate user...ubuntu rookie....lol
[08:28] <niklo> elo
[08:28] <GeorgeM36Gr> <-- Windows Expert User...kubuntu newbie
[08:28] <GeorgeM36Gr> lol
[08:28] <tsdgeos> GeorgeM36Gr: you should try filing a bug
[08:28] <tsdgeos> maybe core2duo is "too new"
[08:29] <TheGateKeeper> me__: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home <--- something I put together
[08:29] <me__> I'd vote with that tsdgeos
[08:29] <GeorgeM36Gr> tsdgeos I gues it is... Cant get it though it worlk with SuSE but JMIcron is not recognized... with kubuntu... i fails...
[08:30] <ubuntu_> hello
[08:30] <GeorgeM36Gr> and today I cant type
[08:30] <TheGateKeeper> GeorgeM36Gr: well if the advise is file a bug, you could always try the 32 bit version until you get an answer
[08:30] <me__> I bet there's some kind of updated kernel....do a google
[08:30] <i_m_meen> ubotu: ro > i_m_meen
[08:30] <GeorgeM36Gr> TheGateKeeper well I will download the 32bit version though....
[08:31] <GeorgeM36Gr> me__ I google it... but ubuntu forums are down... kubuntu has nothing on Core2Duo cpus
[08:31] <GeorgeM36Gr> only amdz
[08:32] <TheGateKeeper> GeorgeM36Gr: if you chroot into your install (using a live CD) you could try building your own kernel
[08:32] <GeorgeM36Gr> TheGateKeeper: I can build many things BUT not a kernel...I am a newbie remember?
[08:34] <TheGateKeeper> GeorgeM36Gr: actually it not as horrific as it sounds, the config is all menu driven, but you will need the forums for guidance
[08:34] <GeorgeM36Gr> if I install 32bit can I upgrade to 64 without the need to re-install everything?
[08:35] <GeorgeM36Gr> TheGateKeeper: Ok I will give it a shot... I have 2 pcs so ....
[08:35] <MetaMorfoziS> i think you only need kernel upgrade
[08:35] <MetaMorfoziS> not upgrade, change
[08:35] <MetaMorfoziS> but i'm don't know 100%
[08:35] <TheGateKeeper> GeorgeM36Gr: I think you will most likely need to reinstall
[08:35] <GeorgeM36Gr> woops.... With Linux not two answers are the same.... lol
[08:35] <GeorgeM36Gr> ok..decide please :)
[08:36] <me__> linux may have no 2 answers the same george....but windows has only one answer......DRM!
[08:36] <TheGateKeeper> rofl
[08:37] <me__> so I'd better cut my grass...have fun kids
[08:37] <GeorgeM36Gr> DRM? Doit Right Man?
[08:37] <GeorgeM36Gr> downloading 32bit as we speak
[08:37] <GeorgeM36Gr> 1 hour to go :)
[08:38] <zorglu_> lets all thanks the drm for doing linux such a good gift :)
[08:38] <zam> what is the meening of   ""You will also need the dapper-updates reponsitory enabled."" ?
[08:38] <zam> frome http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php ?
[08:38] <muslim> any one working with Java on kubuntu ?
[08:38] <GeorgeM36Gr> zorglu DRM may also be the killer for Linux... beware what you wish for...
[08:39] <zorglu_> GeorgeM36Gr: i think the exact opposite :)
[08:39] <tk> if going to 64bit you would have to recompile everything you have installed as well.... as they wont run in 64bit if compiled for 32bit w/o using a 32bit environment.... (i believe thats what I read... but its 4am)
[08:39] <zorglu_> GeorgeM36Gr: but time will tell for now we can only suppose. and this is offtopic :)
[08:39] <TheGateKeeper> GeorgeM36Gr: just to wet your apitite, this applies to gentoo but for (k)ubuntu it won't be too far off ---> http://penguinslair.org/wiki/index.php/Kernel
[08:39] <GeorgeM36Gr> zorglu: nice man +ve thinking helps
[08:39] <zam> muslim:  are you mr muslim the kreater of arabian ?
[08:40] <trappist> zam: try not to be obtuse
[08:40] <muslim> Thanks  'zam' for your good words ..
[08:40] <TheGateKeeper> GeorgeM36Gr: good luck I am out of here
[08:41] <muslim> * If msulims isn't accepted in this channel please tell me
[08:41] <trappist> muslim: please don't listen to him.
[08:41] <GeorgeM36Gr> Bye GateKeeper
[08:41] <zorglu_> muslim: everybody is accepted, but we do not to talk about religion as it is offtopic here
[08:42] <trappist> can everybody please stop flipping out?
[08:42] <muslim> i don't speak about religion .. i asked "[20:38]  <muslim> any one working with Java on kubuntu ?"
[08:42] <zamaliphe> muslim: i was just asking are you mr "muslim .adel"  or not
[08:42] <GeorgeM36Gr> maybe Core2Duo is too new for linux... can find anything about intels cpu ....
[08:42] <trappist> nobody's talking about religion.  muslim has a java question that he hasn't really asked yet.
[08:43] <zorglu_> muslim: cool then :)
[08:43] <trappist> zamaliphe: please drop it.
[08:43] <muslim> i wanted to ask about a good tool used to create Java Applets ..
[08:44] <zorglu_> muslim: what kind of tools ? an ide ? eclipse is good with java
[08:44] <muslim> and not the normal way "with command"
[08:44] <trappist> yeah I would recommend eclipse
[08:44] <muslim> is it in "Adept" ?
[08:44] <trappist> yes
[08:44] <zorglu_> yep
[08:45] <muslim> Ok thanks for help .. i'm going to try it ..
[08:46] <zorglu_> muslim: ok you may look at http://eclipse.org to see what is it
[08:46] <zorglu_> ok off
[08:46] <muslim> Thanks zorglu_
[08:50] <silox> how do i configure xorg.conf and nvidia to twinview the screen on my TV? I have already 2 screens (only one enabled), i have a Dell Inspiron 8100 Laptop
[08:52] <GeorgeM36Gr> zorglu you there?
[08:52] <trappist> raven301_: problems?
[08:52] <zamaliphe> trappist: after doing apt-get upgread
[08:52] <zamaliphe> trappist: The following packages have been kept back:
[08:53] <zamaliphe> trappist: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 77 not upgraded.
[08:53] <raven301_> trappist: no ... just my internet company
[08:53] <trappist> zamaliphe: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:54] <GeorgeM36Gr> zorglu if you see it try this http://www.lafkon.net/tc/
[08:54] <Raven301> trappist: anything new with you ipkungfu?
[08:55] <trappist> Raven301: I'm gonna release 0.6.1 when I get around to it.  it's ready to go.  small bugfix.  then I'm gonna package it for ubuntu and try to get it accepted into universe.
[08:55] <muslim_> can i know more about 'ipkungfu' trappist ?
[08:56] <trappist> muslim_: it's a firewall I wrote
[08:56] <Raven301> trappist: great ...  and it will be for kubuntu too:)
[08:56] <muslim_> in 'c' ?
[08:57] <trappist> muslim_: no, linux's firewall stuff is built into the kernel, with a userspace program to make rules.  it's just a bash script that automates it and makes it easy to configure.
[08:57] <muslim_> ic .. thanks for information
[08:58] <zorglu_> GeorgeM36Gr:  ok downloading. btw you can use tab for nickname completion
[08:58] <ryujin> need help to fix my kicker...
[08:59] <Paradosso> hi there people
[08:59] <ryujin> I installed Openkiosk for testing but it messed my Kubuntu install.
[08:59] <windshear> hello
[08:59] <windshear> what kernel will be in 6.10 final=?
[08:59] <GeorgeM36Gr> zorglu_: have a look and tell me... For me its a masterpiece
[08:59] <BonBonTheJon> ryujin: what is openkiosk
[09:00] <ryujin> is a software to manage Cybercafe's
[09:00] <trappist> windshear: 2.6.17 + patches
[09:00] <windshear> hm, no 2.6.18 :(
[09:00] <Paradosso> any hints for a "fatal server error: could not open font 'fixed'"?
[09:01] <trappist> windshear: no, but a lot of 2.6.18 stuff is backported
[09:01] <BonBonTheJon> Paradosso: where are you seeing this at
[09:01] <Paradosso> BonBonTheJon: when trying to boot x
[09:01] <Raven301> I will still have to update the kernel then ... I'm running  2.6.18-01 kernel
[09:01] <Paradosso> upgraded to eggy btw
[09:01] <trappist> heh.  eggy.
[09:02] <windshear> anyone also axperience this problem: if I shut down or sestart my pc edgy hangs at the point the progress bar appears
[09:02] <zorglu_> GeorgeM36Gr: yep, a good movie, come on #kubuntu-offtopic to talk about this
[09:03] <windshear> if i press reset then, the next time it works
[09:03] <Raven301> When does Kubuntu 6.10 final look like it will be released??
[09:03] <trappist> !schedule
[09:04] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:04] <windshear> i al26.th
[09:04] <windshear> 26th
[09:04] <Raven301> thanks trappist
[09:04] <Paradosso> when reinstalling xfonts-base I get "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not exist"
[09:04] <Paradosso> trappist: yes, edgy
[09:04] <GeorgeM36Gr> ok
[09:05] <sverre> anybody got the sound lag fixed in flash?....i need som help.
[09:06] <windshear> anyone also axperience this problem: if I shut down or sestart my pc edgy hangs at the point the progress bar appears
[09:06] <Paradosso> any hints anybody?
[09:06] <trappist> sverre: the sync issue is supposed to be fixed in version 9, whenever it comes out
[09:06] <windshear> if i press reset then, the next time it works
[09:06] <trappist> Paradosso: how are you trying to start X
[09:07] <Paradosso> trappist: kdm starts weirdly for some reason
[09:07] <Paradosso> trappist: so I am trying startx
[09:08] <trappist> Paradosso: theoretically, startx should work, but it never has for me on ubuntu.  theoretically, so should kdm, but I've been using gdm because kdm has been having issues for me on edgy.
[09:08] <sascha_> !schedule
[09:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:08] <sredna> What do I do with a .deb file?
[09:09] <trappist> sredna: mostly you leave it alone and install software using apt or one of its front-ends.  but if that's not possible, you sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[09:09] <Paradosso> trappist: since startx does not work, I don't think my problem is just the login manager
[09:09] <sredna> trappist: I can't get the source in question to work
[09:10] <sredna> Deb http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/ dapper-seveas freenx
[09:10] <trappist> Paradosso: startx has never worked for me in ubuntu, for various reasons.  permission problems, different xsession files are sourced, etc.  try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm' and select gdm as your dm, if it's installed, and try that
[09:10] <sredna> I did install the gpg key, but I do not get the package in apt searces
[09:11] <trappist> sredna: deb should not start with a capital D
[09:11] <sredna> trappist: It does not, just my silly ksirc capitalization filter
[09:11] <trappist> sredna: did you run 'sudo apt-get update'?
[09:11] <sredna> Yes, trappist
[09:12] <Comadore> sredna siema ;d
[09:12] <sredna> Ah, moment - it appears to work now :-(
[09:12] <trappist> ah.  well then, I guess ask Seveas or download the .deb(s) and use sudo dpkg -i
[09:12] <sredna> :-)
[09:12] <trappist> hehe
[09:12] <mikki> how can I prevent x.org from starting?
[09:12] <trappist> mikki: sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remove
[09:12] <Comadore> 'startx'
[09:12] <Comadore> write in ur terminal ;p
[09:12] <mikki> ok thanks
[09:13] <trappist> Comadore: the job of startx is to "start X", not prevent it from starting.
[09:13] <Comadore> lol ;] 
[09:14] <Comadore> trappist
[09:14] <Comadore> what distribution u have ?
[09:14] <trappist> ubuntu
[09:14] <muslim_> *trappist:For any application like RealPlayer ( Any App. with GUI ) .. In which language is it written ?
[09:15] <trappist> muslim_: it differs from application to application.  usually C or C++.
[09:15] <muslim_> Right .. I'm learning 'C' But How can i make a GUI ?
[09:15] <holoton1> can anyone tell me why my computer slows down to a crawl when reading / writing to or from an external USB or Firewire drive?
[09:16] <muslim_> all i learned and all i see in books for working with commands only ..
[09:16] <holoton1> problem occurs with usb or firewire hdds, AND reading from my digicam over USB
[09:16] <holoton1> like, seriously soaks my system
[09:16] <holoton1> proc and ram
[09:16] <trappist> muslim_: first, choose a toolkit to use.  use Qt if you want to make apps for KDE, gtk if you want to make them for gnome, etc.
[09:17] <muslim_> OK .. going to try
[09:17] <muslim_> holoton1:Using kubuntu ?
[09:17] <holoton1> muslim_: yes
[09:17] <sverre> help with sound sync in flash?...anyone?
[09:17] <kosnick> is mplayer for kde only?
[09:18] <snook353> can i use yahoo smtp with kmail?
[09:18] <muslim_> I'm using it and read/write to flash memory over USB with no problems
[09:18] <snook353> i can't get it configed
[09:18] <holoton1> muslim_: I can do so also on other computers running kubuntu with no problems, too
[09:18] <holoton1> muslim_: it's this comp in particular that's having trouble
[09:18] <trappist> snook353: should be able to, yeah
[09:18] <holoton1> muslim_: totally soaks system resources whenver I do
[09:19] <trappist> snook353: but the last person to ask about that here had trouble - emails would stay in the outbox and go nowhere, with no error message.
[09:19] <holoton1> muslim_: weird thing is, it happens transfering over usb or firewire
[09:19] <Paradosso> trappist: the thing is, when I install xfonts-base, I get the "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not exist warning", even if I manually created that directory; in fact, when I try to reinstall xfonts-base after I created that directory, I get that warning again and the "misc" directory is not there anymore
[09:19] <jon__> can someone help me set up a static IP address
[09:19] <snook353> is there a trick to it?  i don't know.  it gives me errors that i have the wrong password, and ther things, trappist
[09:19] <trappist> holoton1: my first guess is that your chipset is poorly supported and doesn't have DMA support
[09:20] <snook353> oh, well i guess an error message is better than none! trappist
[09:20] <jon__> where do i get the IP address i want to use, the subnet mask, and the gateway address?
[09:20] <holoton1> trappist: any way to test this theory?
[09:20] <muslim_> holoton1:Have u tried on another dist.? ot maybe Hardware Prob.
[09:20] <trappist> snook353: I've never done it with yahoo, but I would say double-check yahoo's docs on setting up the mail client to use it, and make sure you're configured correctly.
[09:20] <snook353> yeah, i'll double check, thanks trappist
[09:20] <holoton1> trappist: and which chipset are you reffering to?
[09:20] <trappist> holoton1: I would have said try it on different hardware, but you've done that.  that seems to confirm it.
[09:20] <holoton1> trappist: what would I replace to solve the problem? Which chipset?
[09:21] <holoton1> holoton1: fyi, the firewire card is PCI, usb is on the mobo
[09:21] <trappist> holoton1: I mean your usb hardware - this is how things behave when you do ide i/o when your ide chipset has no DMA support in the drivers for it
[09:22] <holoton1> trappist: the usb is onboard mobo, the firewire is pci aftermarket; Does that theory still hold true?
[09:22] <holoton1> trappist: fyi, my mobo is an asus a7v333
[09:22] <trappist> holoton1: does this happen in the other machine with the same firewire card?
[09:23] <holoton1> trappist: haven't tested that, I was hoping there was a way to do so without removing the hardware
[09:23] <trappist> holoton1: only other way I know is to get a second card :)  I predict that the same thing will happen, because it seems to me to be a driver problem
[09:24] <holoton1> trappist: does it seem odd that the usb and firewire are two seperate devices, but exhibit the same problem?
[09:24] <trappist> holoton1: DMA prevents i/o processes from degrading performance, by making it much more effecient.  without it, your CPU has to do all the work for the i/o and things like this happen.  whether you're using DMA is usually a driver issue (though you can use hdparm to turn it on and off for ide controllers)
[09:25] <trappist> holoton1: it's a bit of a coincidence, but so far my guess is that they're both not-quite-supported devices
[09:25] <holoton1> trappist: how can I check if dma is on for these devices?
[09:26] <trappist> holoton1: for usb and firewire, I really don't know.  could test the theory, though, by moving the card
[09:26] <holoton1> trappist: thanks!
[09:33] <visik7> will kubuntu edgy have apport ?
[09:33] <visik7> I see only apport-gtk
[09:33] <visik7> nothing about apport-qt/kde
[09:35] <muslim_> trappist:can u help me getting one of the tools you suggested ?
[09:35] <sredna> Again, what do I do with a deb?
[09:35] <sredna> The freenx package seems no to contain the client anyways
[09:35] <trappist> muslim_: if you mean eclipse, I've never used it, and don't know much about it.
[09:35] <Hawkwind> sredna: Install it with dpkg....but what is it you are trying to install ?
[09:36] <sredna> Hawkwind: Nxclient
[09:36] <muslim_> no . i mean this : "[21:16]  <trappist> muslim_: first, choose a toolkit to use.  use Qt if you want to make apps for KDE, gtk if you want to make them for gnome, etc."
[09:37] <maupi> sera
[09:37] <Paradosso> what the fuck is going on with fonts in edgy?
[09:37] <Paradosso> I can't even browse the forums
[09:37] <trappist> muslim_: oh, toolkits.  you just need to install the libraries (for running the code) and the headers (for compiling it) and find the documentation for writing code that uses it.
[09:37] <Mortice> Paradosso: try #ubuntu+1
[09:37] <Paradosso> Mortice: thanks
[09:37] <zbyszek> hi ppl
[09:39] <muslim_> thanks trappist
[09:39] <muslim_> hi
[09:40] <sredna> Hm, I got it installed, but what does it really install?
[09:44] <snook353> i have No Idea why it won't send my mail via yahoo's smtp.
[09:44] <mikki> I have installed Xgl, but it shows a mouse pointer on a black background and then it stops resonding
[09:44] <XVampireX> Is there KDE 3.5.5 for Kubuntu somewhere?
[09:44] <mikki> can you help me please
[09:45] <fdoving> snook353: it's generally an good idea to send mail with your internet connection providers smtp server.
[09:45] <fdoving> mikki: try #ubuntu-xgl
[09:45] <snook353> ok....i have no idea what i'm doin, cuz i don'tkno wwhat that means
[09:45] <snook353> fdoving
[09:46] <Bazzi> XVampireX: yes, kubuntu.org
[09:46] <fdoving> snook353: doesn't charter.com have a smtp-server?
[09:46] <snook353> Oh, yeah, probly
[09:46] <fdoving> snook353: your cable-company?
[09:46] <mikki> thanks!
[09:46] <snook353> yeah, i'll have to figure that out, fdoving
[09:46] <XVampireX> Hey
[09:47] <XVampireX> Will there be KDE 3.5.5 anytime soon?
[09:47] <XVampireX> I really need it
[09:47] <fdoving> why do you need it?
[09:47] <fdoving> it's not finished yet.
[09:47] <Mahmoud> how to play mp3 files in amarok?
[09:47] <fdoving> !mp3 > mahmoud
[09:47] <hastesaver> Mahmoud, are mp3s otherwise working? Is Amarok otherwise working?
[09:48] <fdoving> Mahmoud: http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s
[09:48] <Bazzi> XVampireX: should be on kubuntu.org real soon if it is not already, I betatested it today
[09:48] <gnomefreak> libxine-extras i think is the package to play mp3s but im not looking at it atm
[09:48] <fdoving> sredna: nx is cool, too bad there is no usable linux-powerpc client available.
[09:48] <manelplus> dsdsd
[09:48] <manelplus> hola.algun espaol?
[09:49] <fdoving> !es
[09:49] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:49] <gnomefreak> !es
[09:49] <manelplus> ok,gracias
[09:49] <sredna> fdoving: The server I log into let me also run a windows desktop, so I can now test websites in ie without nagging my family :-9
[09:49] <gnomefreak> ah libxine-extracodecs
[09:49] <sredna> Which is the main idea for me, at least right now..
[09:50] <fdoving> sredna: nice, i would've been using nx too, if they had a linux-ppc client, but they dont.
[09:50] <sredna> fdoving: Maybe it will come
[09:51] <mata> Hall vannak itt magyarok?
[09:51] <gnomefreak> is that dutch?
[09:51] <zorglu_> !hu
[09:51] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[09:52] <zorglu_> i dunno, i just replicated the .hu at the end of the hostname
[09:53] <LeeJunFan> that'd be hungarian.
[09:55] <XVampireX> Hey
[09:55] <XVampireX> When will I be able to download KDE 3.5.5?
[09:55] <zorglu_> today!
[09:55] <zorglu_> but take a long route to arrive on time :)
[09:56] <mata> Yes, hungarian. Thanks for help. By...
[09:56] <vge> KDE 3.5.5 today?
[09:57] <LeeJunFan> just in time to not make it into edgy I bet.
[09:58] <fdoving> LeeJunFan: it's been some talking about an UVF.. maybe.
[09:58] <fdoving> but don't count on it..
[09:58] <LeeJunFan> UVF?
[09:58] <LeeJunFan> something freeze I take it.
[09:59] <loki_> hi
[10:00] <fdoving> LeeJunFan: version free exception, thingie.. it's wrong actually.. uvf is universe version freeze, but we often talk about UVF Exceptions.. so here it'll be more like a VF exception or something. :)
[10:01] <LeeJunFan> fdoving: ah... no biggie really - personally I'd rather see it as an option and let the release have the more polished and tested version it's got now.
[10:01] <LeeJunFan> as is normally done.
[10:02] <Mahmoud> how can i install driver for my ati mobility radeon x1600?
[10:02] <LeeJunFan> although I'm hoping they get some bugs out of 3.5.4's imap handling in kmail - my indexes are alway getting screwed.
[10:02] <Hawkwind> !ati
[10:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:02] <fdoving> LeeJunFan: we'll see about it. i've heard 3.5.5 is more stable, for example kmail is randomly crashing in my 3.5.4.. we'll see. there will certainly be kubuntu.org packages of 3.5.5 for edgy if it doesn't make it to edgy.
[10:03] <LeeJunFan> fdoving: are you getting the kmail crashes after you view a mail but it shows it as blank?
[10:04] <fdoving> LeeJunFan: i think so, not sure. it's all about imap i think.
[10:04] <fdoving> never really done much to find a pattern.
[10:04] <LeeJunFan> yeah, that's what's happening to me. I've found the solution is to go to ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/imap and find . -name "*.index*"
[10:04] <LeeJunFan> ooops.
[10:04] <ccherrett> any idea what to do if your printer does not show in the list when adding your printer?
[10:05] <LeeJunFan> yeah, that's what's happening to me. I've found the solution is to go to ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/imap and find . -name "*.index*" -exec rm {} \;
[10:05] <LeeJunFan> fdoving: once I clear those index files I can read my mail reliably again - for a while.
[10:05] <teodoro> hello
[10:05] <teodoro> are there any italian?
[10:06] <fdoving> LeeJunFan: i just restart kmail and it works for a while..
[10:06] <LeeJunFan> ccherrett: go to linuxprinting.org and see if you can find a ppd for your printer.
[10:06] <fdoving> !it > teodoro
[10:07] <raich> wgat is the best way to construct a vecotr if i already know its size? vector(int) or  default constructor with reserve()? or with resize()???
[10:07] <tsdgeos> raich: Qt=
[10:07] <tsdgeos> ?
[10:07] <raich> sorry?
[10:07] <gksudo> Hello, does anyone know how to uninstall Klik?
[10:08] <tsdgeos> raich: in Qt or in c++=
[10:08] <tsdgeos> ?
[10:08] <raich> ooh sorry wron ghcannel :D
[10:08] <gksudo> Or the software that is installed with it?
[10:08] <raich> wrong
[10:08] <tsdgeos> :D
[10:09] <vge> can somebody help me with php installation?
[10:10] <vge> i need to run php4 and php5 in the same machine under apache2 but cannot seem to get it working
[10:13] <AWOSDev> Okay I have a 20GB drive (/dev/hdd) and a 100GB drive (/dev/hdb).  Now, can I do this:    dd if=/dev/hdd of=/media/hdb1/hdd.img     will this do what I want it to do, which is save my 20GB so I can reformat it?
[10:14] <fdoving> AWOSDev: i strongly recommend partimage
[10:14] <fdoving> AWOSDev: but yes, it'll do what you want.
[10:14] <LeeJunFan> AWOSDev: yes, but you will only have a 20GB partition on your 100GB. I wouldn't do it that way.
[10:14] <buz> AWOSDev: do you REALLY need a partition image?
[10:14] <buz> (i.e. is there some strange FS or boot stuff on it)
[10:14] <AWOSDev> buz, yes, it's a Windows XP Dynamic Disk.
[10:14] <LeeJunFan> personally I like using tar piped to tar to backup linux systems.
[10:15] <fdoving> AWOSDev: get partimage. (it's in the repositories)
[10:15] <fdoving> !info partimage
[10:15] <ubotu> partimage: backup partitions into a compressed image file. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-14 (dapper), package size 261 kB, installed size 936 kB
[10:15] <AWOSDev> fdoving, but will that work on Dynamic Disks?
[10:15] <fdoving> AWOSDev: no idea, never used such a thing.
[10:15] <fdoving> it's probably better than dd anyway.
[10:15] <buz> what is a dynamic disk?
[10:16] <AWOSDev> It's some funky Windows NTFS thing that's really sucky, I shouldn't have used, but did anyway in my feeble attempt to make a software RAID which didn't work, and then I got hacked, so I installed Linux, and now I can't read the data.
[10:16] <buz> i dont think you want to touch it, then
[10:16] <AWOSDev> only Windows 2000 SP3 or Windows XP SP1 or higher can read it.
[10:17] <AWOSDev> buz, but I need it for a different computer, one of my other computer's drives died and this 20GB is just lying around dormant.
[10:17] <fdoving> AWOSDev: i would give partimage a try.
[10:17] <buz> how important is the data on it
[10:18] <AWOSDev> buz, it's got some of my code on it (C++)
[10:18] <buz> i think you want to somehow boot windows and save it from there then
[10:18] <fdoving> vge: http://howtoforge.com/apache2_with_php5_and_php4
[10:18] <AWOSDev> From Microsoft, After you convert to a dynamic disk, the dynamic volumes cannot be changed back to partitions. You must first delete all dynamic volumes on the disk, and then convert the dynamic disk back to a basic disk. If you want to keep your data, you must first back up or move the data to another volume.
[10:19] <AWOSDev> so I wanna back it up
[10:19] <buz> yeah i wouldnt trust partimage with that
[10:19] <buz> i think by backup, MS means copying the files from the partition to somewhere else
[10:19] <buz> not the partition itself
[10:19] <fdoving> sounds like that's what they mean.
[10:19] <buz> (win lusers wouldnt know how to do that, anyway)
[10:19] <AWOSDev> buz, true :)
[10:20] <puttlick> howto install tgz?
[10:20] <buz> i take it you dont have windows around?
[10:20] <puttlick> installpkg donesn't wokr...
[10:21] <AWOSDev> buz, uh, well it's here, but this computer is kind of my server, and NAT router, so it's not readily restartable
[10:21] <buz> mhh
[10:21] <buz> if you want the data, i'd go to the trouble of restarting it
[10:21] <buz> surely better than using partimage and then figuring out it didnt work
[10:21] <AWOSDev> that's why I like dd :)
[10:22] <buz> and you cant convince linux of somehow mounting the thing
[10:23] <puttlick> someone knows how to install .gtz?
[10:23] <AWOSDev> Well I just found this on Google http://marc2.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-ntfs-dev&m=99356837005752&w=2
[10:23] <AWOSDev> seems promising :)
[10:23] <LjL> puttlick: you mean .tgz?
[10:23] <buz> if its raid1, chances are the data is really there unmessed up
[10:23] <buz> if its raid0 or 5, you will need win
[10:23] <puttlick> LjL: Ops, ofcourse ;P
[10:23] <AWOSDev> buz, no like I said I didn't do RAID
[10:23] <LjL> puttlick: .tar.gz (or .tgz) is simply an archiving format (well, *two* nested formats really, but anyway) -- sort of like .zip files that are more common on Windows
[10:23] <AWOSDev> buz, I believe I tried RAID-5 but needed two disks and didn't have two disks to mess with :)
[10:23] <hastesaver_> puttlick, first, what are you installing? Isn't it in the repos?
[10:23] <LjL> puttlick: how to "install" whatever is contained in them, depends on what is contained
[10:24] <LjL> puttlick: quite commonly, you'll find .tgz files containing source code to be compiled. in that case,
[10:24] <fdoving> LjL: it can be slackware packages too. :)
[10:24] <LjL> !b-e
[10:24] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:24] <LjL> fdoving: indeed
[10:24] <puttlick> Okay, first day running linux... Its an ntfs software for linux...
[10:24] <LjL> !ntfs
[10:24] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[10:24] <puttlick> read installpkg somewhere but it won't work..
[10:24] <LjL> puttlick: note that, while reading from an NTFS filesystem is fine, writing to it *can be dangerous*
[10:25] <puttlick> LjL: okay thanks for the warning...
[10:26] <LjL> puttlick: there's also another howto that, i think, talks more specifically about writing to NTFS - let me dig it up
[10:26] <buz> !captive
[10:26] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[10:26] <puttlick> ^okay, thanks
[10:26] <LjL> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[10:28] <LjL> puttlick: at any rate, to *extract* (not install) a .tgz file, you can run "tar xf filename" from a shell. you'll get the contents in the current directory
[10:28] <LjL> or you can just use KDE's Ark program by double-clicking on the file, for that matter
[10:29] <hastesaver> That's "tar xzf filename.tgz", because it's usually compressed with gzip as well
[10:29] <puttlick> Lsl: yeah, read that somewhere but don't i have to "install" or compile like they cal it in some guide?
[10:29] <LjL> hastesaver: doesn't matter. the current version of gnu tar sees that automatically
[10:29] <LjL> same for .tar.bz2
[10:30] <hastesaver> LjL, oh, I didn't know that... thanks
[10:30] <LjL> puttlick: that's quite possible. i can't know until i have the file, though, can you give me a pointer to it?
[10:31] <vge> when i try to configure this:http://www.howtoforge.com/apache2_with_php5_and_php4 so that php4 would be .php and php5 as php5, how do i do that? This example has em other way around. Not the way i want em
[10:32] <puttlick> LjL; sure
[10:32] <josh_> If I want to install swiftfox, do I have to install firefox first?
[10:33] <puttlick> ljl: http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfs-3g-20070920-BETA.tgz
[10:34] <LjL> puttlick: yes, you'll have to compile that
[10:34] <LjL> puttlick: type "sudo apt-get install build-essential" to install the core stuff that's needed to compile things
[10:35] <LjL> puttlick: then type "./configure" from inside the ntfs-3g directory, and if it succeeds, type "make"
[10:35] <puttlick> okay, thx^
[10:35] <josh_> If I want to install swiftfox, do I have to install firefox first? ?????
[10:36] <vge> somebody can help me with my problem?
[10:37] <LjL> puttlick: i can tell you right know that configure *won't* succeed without installing some further packages (namely, fuse, at least)... anyway, you probably better follow the howto you're following. is it an ubuntu-specific howto?
[10:38] <puttlick> ^Yeah, i'm trying to download the fuse package 2.5.0 right now...
[10:41] <shadowraven> good afternoon all
[10:43] <shadowraven> i have a simple question for you guys/gals, but i swear i dont know how to fix this.
[10:43] <AWOSDev> !ask
[10:43] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:45] <AWOSDev> You know, according to Wikipedia, Linux kernels >= 2.4.8 can automatically read dynamic disks.  and it did at one point...
[10:45] <shadowraven> i have a delle1505 with a 3945 wireless card. when i installed kubuntu, it worked fine, and a month later i update kubuntu and now its broke, and i cant get on the net
[10:45] <AWOSDev> so does anybody know how to get dynamic disks working?
[10:45] <shadowraven> if i boot using a kubuntu livecd, the wireless works
[10:45] <AWOSDev> shadowraven, dist-upgrade or just upgrade?
[10:45] <shadowraven> just upgrade
[10:46] <shadowraven> i just upgraded the packages...... im a NooB to linux if you cant tell
[10:47] <puttlick> ljl: why does it say i've got to install fuse 2.5.0 when I have installed 2.5.3? Do I have to restart?
[10:47] <shadowraven> but the wireless did work before i upgraded and it will work if i use a livecd
[10:47] <LjL> puttlick: you never have to restart. perhaps it really does need that specific version, or perhaps it's a glitch in the installer. let me see
[10:49] <puttlick> LjL: Actually it stands >= 2.5.0 so it has to work....
[10:49] <LjL> puttlick: the package you need is libfuse-dev
[10:50] <LjL> with it, configure complete succesfully on my system
[10:50] <vge> somebody can help me to install php4 and php5 at the same machine?
[10:50] <puttlick> That pacckage is installed...
[10:50] <puttlick> I thin it was missing pkg-config...
[10:51] <LjL> puttlick: well, i'm using edgy, so there might be something different from dapper, but still libfuse-dev is version 2.5.3 even here
[10:51] <shadowraven> any ideas?
[10:52] <fdoving> vge: didn't the link i gave you earlier help?
[10:53] <puttlick> ljl: it was an old version like 2.4.3
[10:58] <vge> fdoving: i have followed the thing, but i need to run php4 as .php and php5 as .php5. This is what i have in apache2.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26009/
[10:58] <Mahmoud> i want the commercial repository ?
[10:58] <vge> then i have installed php4 paggage and php5-cgi
[10:59] <vge> but when i run .php5 file with phpinfo() in it, it says server is using php4 on it?
[10:59] <shadowraven> anyone have that problem?
[10:59] <ubuntu_> who
[11:02] <menace> hey everyone
[11:02] <tabulador> where?
[11:03] <tabulador> nocing
[11:03] <tabulador> ?
[11:03] <liviux> hi all! There is anyone which use translator?
[11:03] <tabulador> coming
[11:04] <Mahmoud> anyone help
[11:04] <Mahmoud>  i want the commercial repository
[11:04] <tabulador> who?
[11:04] <shadowraven> i have a delle1505 with a 3945 wireless card. when i installed kubuntu, it worked fine, and a month later i update kubuntu and now its broke, and i cant get on the net
[11:04] <tabulador> exit
[11:04] <menace> on ktorrent, it says that my up speed is 10kb/s...but im not uploading anything to someone. could someone please explain this?
[11:05] <Mahmoud> i want good repositories
[11:05] <Mahmoud> please
[11:05] <menace> source-o-matic
[11:05] <menace> google that..
[11:05] <DaSkreech> !sourceomatic
[11:05] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:05] <menace> yea, that
[11:06] <DaSkreech> Bah
[11:06] <DaSkreech> How do I get my full og frile from KOnversaion
[11:08] <Mahmoud> thanks all
[11:09] <trew432> hi!
[11:14] <zorglu_> 40min from 0 to radio streaming
[11:14] <zorglu_> i like linux :)
[11:18] <streamerr> buenas
[11:20] <shadowraven> i have a delle1505 with a 3945 wireless card. when i installed kubuntu, it worked fine, and a month later i update kubuntu and now its broke, and i cant get on the net
[11:20] <zorglu_> got new kernel ?
[11:20] <zorglu_> shadowraven: try to boot on the previous kernel
[11:20] <shadowraven> the latest
[11:20] <zorglu_> the point is not that :)
[11:20] <shadowraven> how do i do that
[11:21] <mahmoud> can i make windows the default system in booting
[11:21] <zorglu_> the point is 'if it worked with the previous kernel and no more with the new one' try booting with the previous
[11:21] <zorglu_> mahmoud: see default option in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:21] <LjL> mahmoud: yes, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst (and be careful, 'cause if you do it wrong, you won't boot ;)
[11:21] <zorglu_> shadowraven: first you must know if the kernel have been updated
[11:22] <zorglu_> shadowraven: have you seen more line in the 'boot menu' since the update ?
[11:22] <shadowraven> no
[11:22] <mahmoud> thanks
[11:22] <zorglu_> shadowraven: sure ?
[11:22] <shadowraven> yes
[11:22] <zorglu_> shadowraven: hmm so it is something else...
[11:23] <zorglu_> was my only bet unfortunatly
[11:23] <zorglu_> i dont use wireless
[11:24] <shadowraven> if i boot using the livcd it will work
[11:24] <aziz> hi
[11:24] <shadowraven> hello
[11:24] <zorglu_> shadowraven: sorry tired here....
[11:24] <aziz> hello for Saudia arabia
[11:25] <zorglu_> and played badly at tremulous, so im bad :)
[11:25] <aziz> hello from Saudia arabia
[11:25] <Lintsi> hi
[11:26] <streamerr_> buenas
[11:26] <liviux> ciao
[11:27] <Lintsi> moro
[11:27] <aziz> hi
[11:27] <aziz> i was busy  sorry
[11:28] <Lintsi> http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j224/kroizd/munavoileipa.jpg
[11:28] <Lintsi> :D
[11:29] <aziz> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhho
[11:29] <aziz> thanks Lintsi
[11:29] <aziz> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[11:29] <liviux> Does anyone know some free software for webdesign?
[11:29] <Lintsi> :D:D
[11:30] <DaSkreech> liviux: Brainmatter
[11:31] <liviux> Brainmatter...wow, what an awesome name!
[11:32] <__mikem> what in gods name is wrong with aziz
[11:33] <`rich> Any WPA users available to give me a hand?
[11:34] <fdoving> `rich: yes.
[11:34] <fdoving> i do it the hard way.. though.. with textmode and configs and all.
[11:34] <`rich> Thanks. I've got wpa_supplicant installed, but the WLAN Assistant still sees my wlan as WEP, rather than WPA encrypted.
[11:34] <`rich> Fine by me, easier to learn that way :)
[11:35] <fsu94> #kubuntu-fr
[11:35] <fdoving> `rich: wlassisant doesn't work with WPA as far as i know.
[11:35] <`rich> That explains that bit then
[11:35] <raul> a good messenger to use webcam and voice?
[11:35] <`rich> I've found a few guides (all breezy-based admittedly) that all refer to /etc files that I don't have ..
[11:35] <fdoving> `rich: do you have wpa_supplicant configured?
[11:36] <fdoving> `rich: ok, hang on, i'll just have to take a look at my own config..
[11:36] <`rich> Thanks
[11:36] <shadowraven> how do i go about booting in with my last kernel?
[11:37] <fdoving> `rich: do you use multiple wpa networks, or just one?
[11:37] <`rich> Just the one
[11:37] <fdoving> `rich: ok, do you have /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf ?
[11:38] <`rich> Nope, just ifupdown.sh in that dir.
[11:38] <LjL> why doesn't konversation even think about using the KDE-wide configured font sizes... blah
[11:38] <fdoving> `rich: ok, make one then. open it in a editor with root privileges.
[11:38] <`rich> Mkay
[11:39] <Lintsi> raul, amsn
[11:40] <raul> alias char-major-81     videodev
[11:40] <raul> alias char-major-81-0   bttv
[11:40] <raul> options bttv tuner=0 card=1
[11:40] <raul> sorry
[11:41] <raul> lints have you tray talking and sending webcam imaging through amsn? , cos I can't
[11:41] <fdoving> `rich: http://rafb.net/paste/results/OG3S3G15.html
[11:41] <fdoving> `rich: that's basically what i got.
[11:42] <`rich> fdoving, thanks, i'll read through that and try it out.
[11:42] <|lostbyte|> Hi guys :)
[11:42] <Lintsi> hmm
[11:43] <`rich> fdoving, hm, it doesn't like ce_group or id_str as variables
[11:44] <fdoving> `rich: and in /etc/network/interfaces i use http://rafb.net/paste/results/EDWMCN73.html
[11:44] <fdoving> `rich: hmm..
[11:45] <fdoving> `rich: ah, my bad, messed up the paste.
[11:45] <dme> novice user here... wondering if it's possible to install Kubuntu onto 2 RAID0 (via software raid) harddisks, and if so, a good webpage to explain how... Ubuntu community documentation has essentially nothing
[11:45] <fdoving> `rich: http://rafb.net/paste/results/LdHMSW21.html
[11:46] <`rich> fdoving, lol, thanks
[11:46] <dennister> and yet another satisfied customer :-)
[11:46] <dennister> hi fdoving
[11:47] <fdoving> hi dennister.
[11:47] <fdoving> `rich: this might be helpfull: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[11:47] <dennister> what's shakin?
[11:48] <dennister> slso, are there any newbies in here with a brand-new installation?
[11:50] <dennister> guess not...quiet today
[11:50] <dme> YES, ima newbie with a brand new install... now trying to do a brand new install onto 2 software-raid0'ed disks, but can't find documentation... any help out there?
[11:51] <dennister> great! r there any files in your /usr/src dirctory?
[11:51] <dme> brb- must put a bandaid on daughters boo-boo
[11:51] <dennister> <--------trying to clean out the box
[11:53] <dennister> I've also got way too many kernel directories here...want to know if i can remove/delete some of them?
[11:53] <Z330> i need some help
[11:53] <Z330> my keyboard stoped working under kubuntu
[11:53] <Z330> it boots and i get login screen
[11:53] <Z330> i can login keyboard working
[11:54] <Z330> then after i login and get Start x
[11:54] <Z330> it stops working
[11:54] <Z330> can some one give me a place to start?
[11:54] <LeeJunFan> dme: best bet is make a /boot partition one one disk - outside the raid, then make your SWAP partition on the other disk (make them both the same size) it's going to be overkill for /boot size but owell. Then make your 2 partitions on each drive the same size and use RAID on those 2.
[11:54] <LeeJunFan> s/one one/on one/
[11:54] <dennister> z330: do you have a rescue disk?
[11:55] <dennister> it'll often ask you which keyboard you want to use
[11:55] <TheGateKeeper> dennister: you will only have files in /usr/src if you have put them in there or install -dev packages
[11:55] <Z330> its a laptop
[11:55] <Z330> but i tryed usb keyboard
[11:55] <Z330> thing is it was working for a good 3 weeks
[11:55] <TheGateKeeper> dennister: I have done neither so mine is empty
[11:55] <Z330> then i think mayb it was after i installed this dockapp
[11:55] <Z330> i don't have a disk no
[11:56] <dennister> thanks gatekeeper! and the old kernel directories?
[11:56] <Z330> but how can i say just wipe the drives for keyboard
[11:56] <jack_> hello
[11:56] <dennister> z330; what about the disk u used to install ubuntu?
[11:56] <Z330> umm
[11:56] <Z330> some place
[11:56] <Z330> i can get it
[11:56] <dennister> it will load as a livecd
[11:56] <Z330> i can get a shell
[11:56] <Z330> with out that?
[11:56] <Domiii> hi
[11:56] <TheGateKeeper> dennister: which old kernel directories?
[11:57] <Z330> well ya so what if i get the live cd
[11:57] <Z330> what can i do
[11:57] <dennister> the generic ones that were installed first...obviously i will keep the ubuntu server kernel
[11:57] <Z330> to try to fix the keyboard
[11:57] <dennister> z330: then boot with it
[11:57] <TheGateKeeper> dennister: path ?
[11:58] <Z330> the funny thing is i can login
[11:58] <Domiii> i'm using twinkle 0.8 and i'm very quiet for my phone partners. Have changed the level in the mixer to full but no change. anyone an idea? :-)
[11:58] <Z330> so the keyboard works at the login screen
[11:58] <Z330> then after its done loading desktop
[11:58] <Z330> it stops owrking
[11:58] <LeeJunFan> Z330: so it's a kde setting specific to your user apparently.
[11:58] <DaSkreech> Man it would be nice if there was something that could read out a web page to me
[11:59] <Z330> can i just add a new user
[11:59] <Z330> and try that you think
[11:59] <dennister> in konq i have 2.6.15-amd64-k8, above /bin and /boot, but that is the main one i use now
[11:59] <LeeJunFan> Z330: try ctrl-alt-f1, login at konsole, then mv .kde .kde.back
[11:59] <AXL> any greek?
[12:00] <dennister> the others, like 2.15.6.23...are generic ones i upgraded...not sure of path
[12:00] <LeeJunFan> Z330: that will be the equivilent of making your current user a new user - as far as kde is concerned. You could also make a new user and that should take care of it as well.
[12:00] <Z330> ok let me try that LeeJunFan
[12:00] <Z330> 1 min
[12:00] <TheGateKeeper> dennister: hmm I would be carefull what you trash, you should be able to tell from the menu.lst what is being used
[12:01] <dme> leejunfan, do u know a good webpage that can step-by-step me through it? i have 2 indentical blank hds, want to use software raid 0, but can't find documentation online
[12:01] <dennister> i have a total of 5 kernel paths descending from /lib/modules
[12:01] <LeeJunFan> !raid
[12:01] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[12:02] <dennister> including the ubuntu-server, the one i use now and list above, and the generic ones and ones i started out with b4 upgrading to 2.6.15.27
[12:02] <TheGateKeeper> dennister: well I have four so I should leave well alone
[12:02] <dme> i tried the raidconfighowto... it's a total bust; i'll look up the other now; thanks
[12:02] <LeeJunFan> dme: you catch that message from ubotu above about raid?
[12:02] <dennister> ok...but I can delete everything under /usr/src and all of the ivtv directories in the box?
[12:03] <dennister> try again with the ivtv drivers from a cleaner standpoint
[12:03] <TheGateKeeper> dennister: come to think of it, might be a good idea to do a system backup before you start deleting stuff
[12:03] <dennister> great...have tried doing backups...not comfortable with the results
[12:04] <Z330> ok that fixed
[12:04] <Z330> it
[12:04] <dme> LeeJunFan... yes, i did... initially, it appears to be well above my head - it has stuff like how to build a kernal, etc... but i'm looking at it
[12:04] <dme> thanks
[12:04] <dennister> i once tried to do a recovery from one, but it didn't work
[12:04] <TheGateKeeper> dennister: what's more if you installed a -dev package I would let apt-get get rid of them
[12:04] <Z330> but is thare a way i can now pull some of my settings out of that .kde file
[12:04] <TheGateKeeper> dennister: hang on...
[12:04] <scott___> good morning
[12:04] <Z330> or take out only the keyboard settings
[12:05] <dennister> <--------used to using acronis and getting true, complete images for backups
[12:05] <LeeJunFan> dme: you shouldn't need to build a kernel for raid. I've got a dapper box running raid0 with a stock ubuntu kernel.
[12:05] <dennister> but that's in windozze...and my win install is screwed
[12:05] <scott___> does anyone know how to install a dvd player...I have Kaffeine...but its not playing my dvds?
[12:05] <fdoving> !dvd > scott___
[12:05] <TheGateKeeper> dennister: use this method: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311&highlight=HOWTO%3A+backup
[12:05] <dennister> scott...have you installed libxineextracodecs?
[12:06] <LeeJunFan> dme: all I did was create 512M on hda for /boot partition, 512M for SWAP, then create 2 partitions of equal size with leftover space as raid0, and used those as /
[12:06] <gnomefreak> libxine-extracodecs
[12:07] <dennister> gatekeeper: that's the one i tried b4, and the result wasn't good enough for a recovery
[12:07] <dennister> i even have all the recovery steps printed off here
[12:07] <Ashex> anyone know how to share a printer in edgy?
[12:07] <dme> LeeJunFan: right now i'm on my windows box because i've got my 1st Kubuntu harddisk completely disconnected; what i want to do is put in two identical blank hd's, and do brand new Kubuntu install onto them, using raid 0; the one peice of info that i have gleaned so far is that it seems that an un-raided partition is necessary to boot from... but thats the only new thing i have learned (i'm coming from a WindowsXP raid perspective)
[12:07] <Ashex> I'm attempting to figure it out. but the samba doc in the wiki is for dapper
[12:08] <dme> LeeJunFan: that sounds like the info that i needed - to start at least
[12:08] <LeeJunFan> dme: yeah, that would be the /boot partition I mentioned... just make sure you have a /boot partition outside the raid, and 2 partitions of equal size for the raid and you should be set.
[12:08] <dennister> and if you can't recover from a backup u make, it's useless
[12:08] <TheGateKeeper> dennister: because the tar was too big?
[12:08] <dme> brb - must help wife find car keys
[12:09] <dennister> no, it was fairly small, and what i've got installed now isn't that much bigger
[12:09] <TheGateKeeper> dennister: so why didn't it work?
[12:09] <LeeJunFan> dme: I just went with making swap and /boot equal sizes for simplicity, boot really doesn't need to be that big.
[12:09] <dennister> and i followed that howto word-for-word...don't know why...it was awhile ago now
[12:10] <Z330> thx a lot LeeJunFan big help
[12:10] <Z330> all back and working now
[12:10] <Z330> :)
[12:10] <LeeJunFan> Z330: glad to hear.
[12:11] <dennister> would like to try partimage, cause I like complete images of entire partitions...I've got systemrescuecd now
[12:11] <dme> LeeJunFan: i just realized why i am not understanding; i am using the Kubuntu for < 192M memory; it has a text-based install, and it's terminology might be different