[12:16] what is xrayswarm? [12:16] apt-cache show doesnt have it === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:17] it keeps crashing === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-070-089.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung__ [n=abelcheu@221.126.147.244] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lupine_85 [n=lupine@nick.lupine.me.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givr1 [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-35-81.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@modemcable106.200-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth_ [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu_ is now known as reggaemanu === tortoise_ [n=tortoise@194.164.140.64] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian2 [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu === orion2012 [n=orion201@cpe-70-114-30-76.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lupine_85 [n=lupine@nick.lupine.me.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-35-81.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-35-81.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [01:36] Toadstool: are you around? === cntb [n=user@ODAP-62-0-83-95.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:50] imbrandon: are you there? === redguy [n=mati@acu169.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=alessand@2001:1418:1ce:0:20e:a6ff:fea4:4ab5] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:29] Hobbsee: ! :))) [02:29] :) * [02:29] hey joejaxx [02:30] hello [02:30] do you know about the update script in the ubuntu-meta package? [02:30] no [02:30] oh ok [02:30] i run kubuntu, not ubuntu [02:30] ok [02:33] Hobbsee: well do you know about seeds then? [02:33] the seed lists that is [02:39] is anyone around? [02:41] it's the weekend; I wouldn't expect people to be particularly active, either. [02:41] oh ok [02:41] crimsun: well do you know about the seed lists? [02:42] beyond what's in the packaging infrastructure? no. === fredix [n=fredix@86.67.45.227] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:42] try to catch ogra or janimo later in the week [02:43] crimsun: well i just wanted to know why some packages are in parenthesis === mat [n=mat@igoan/mat] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:43] because when i run the update script in the ubuntu-meta [02:43] those come up as Unknown desktop packages [02:44] like (bluez-utils) [02:45] hey all === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:47] hello lophyte :) [02:47] heya :) [02:47] argh.. I was trying to install dapper on an old imac i was given.. but its frozen at 48% [02:48] ...or not [02:48] nevermind, lol [02:49] lol [02:52] i've never played with a mac before [02:52] :) [02:53] it was running OS 9.. so I said nevermind that and now I'm working on installing ubuntu, hehe [02:54] i have two g3's running dapper === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:04] lophyte: what are you up too [03:05] i think crimsun you and i are the only ones in here [03:07] I just got ubuntu installed.. [03:07] except it appears that it didn't install X or gnome [03:07] afternoon [03:08] hey it is ajmitch [03:08] lophyte: why whould it not install those? [03:09] I don't know.. [03:09] :\ [03:09] because you installed from a server cd? [03:09] but when it booted, I'm at the command line [03:09] ajmitch: do you know about the seed list? [03:09] lophyte: interesting [03:09] joejaxx: somewhat [03:09] ajmitch: well i am building the fluxbuntu-* meta packages [03:09] and there's no sign of X [03:09] ajmitch: and i am making the fluxbuntu-meta one right now [03:09] no, I used the alternate cd [03:10] lophyte: did you do a server install from the alternate cd? [03:10] I don't think so [03:10] but meh [03:10] ajmitch: the problem is the ubuntu-meta packaage grabs the depends for the ubuntu-* packages from the seeds list [03:10] I'll just install ubuntu-desktop [03:10] joejaxx: yes [03:10] ajmitch: so i made my own seeds [03:10] except it won't eject the cd drive [03:10] did you copy the existing seeds & modify them? [03:11] ajmitch: but since i have not made the fluxbuntu-* packages it comes up with things like this [03:11] ? Unknown desktop package: fluxbuntu-desktop [03:11] ajmitch: yes i did here http://seeds.fluxbuntu.net/edgy/ === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121n9u.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:12] so if it's complaining about them, shouldn't you make those packages? [03:12] ajmitch: the fluxbuntu-meta packages makes then when i compile it [03:12] ajmitch: but inorder for those packages to build right with the dependencies it goes out to the seeds list to get them [03:13] k, installing ubuntu-desktop [03:13] joejaxx: then try & remove it from the seeds list [03:13] ajmitch: http://fluxbuntu.org//view.php?id=168 [03:13] ajmitch: ok === ajmitch hasn't done any custom seed stuff, so can't really help [03:13] oh alright [03:14] ajmitch: one other question i had is it is not recognizing packages that are on the real seeds like ? Unknown desktop package: (bluez-utils) === ajmitch shrugs === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-119-60.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:16] re [03:16] Toadstool: !! [03:16] :) :D [03:16] uhuh === Toadstool runs :) [03:17] Toadstool: http://seeds.fluxbuntu.net/edgy/ [03:17] grat! [03:17] great even [03:17] Toadstool: one problem [03:17] or two [03:18] ah :) [03:18] ? Unknown standard package: fluxbuntu-standard [03:18] ? Unknown desktop package: hotkey-setup [03:18] hotkey-setup is even in the original seedlist [03:20] hmm, I have no idea of what those errors mean [03:20] take a look at the source code of germinate :) [03:21] ok === Toadstool 's back from a 40 miles bike ride and is too exhausted to\\\\\ [03:22] :\ [03:23] huhu, I hate qwerty keyboards :p [03:23] lol [03:23] :P === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [03:31] Toadstool: do you atleast know why some packages on the seed lists are in parenthesis? [03:32] they're recommends, not depends [03:33] so i can take them out of the parenthesis? === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:33] because the update script is stopping on most of them [03:33] you may do what you want with them [03:33] are you using edgy tools to work on these? [03:34] i am on edgy [03:36] that is why i am wondering why the update script cannot find these packages that are in the reops [03:36] repos [03:36] this thing is sllooow.. [03:36] 233MHz G3 [03:36] lophyte: hah [03:37] not as slow as running windows vista in vmware [03:37] hahaha [03:37] not quite [03:37] hahaa [03:37] maybe vista needs more RAM.. :) [03:41] oh wow [03:42] i feel like any idiot [03:42] :\ [03:42] ajmitch: some reason [03:43] Amaranth: when i do sudo apt-get source ubuntu-meta on edgy [03:43] it gets it from Need to get 19.3kB of source archives. [03:43] Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main ubuntu-meta 0.120 (dsc) [558B] [03:43] Get:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main ubuntu-meta 0.120 (tar) [18.8kB] [03:43] ajmitch: * [03:43] why sudo?! no need to be root to grab sources [03:44] so you have the wrong deb-src lines in there [03:44] no wonder it does not work === joejaxx feels like an idiot [03:45] it says dapper everywhere [03:45] why is this? [03:45] i installed this from a edgy beta disk [03:48] it says edgy in some places in the source list [03:49] and dapper in others [03:49] bbl i have to fix this [03:54] well time to reinstall edgy [03:54] bbl === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-42-144.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:15] anyone knows what happened with Firefox spell-checking? [04:21] nevermind, I think I found the problem [04:29] Damnit, I'm having a brainfart, how do I get DEB_HOST_ARCH_OS, etc? [04:30] I found it out, sorry the noise [04:30] bddebian: dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_ARCH_OS [04:31] $(shell ...) if you need it from debian/rules [04:31] dpkg-architecture.. damnit, I kept trying dpkg --print-architecture.. [04:31] crimsun: thanks === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:11] must be Saturday night [06:15] Well I guess it's technically Sunday morning here now :) [06:17] oh [06:17] I've got a few more hours [06:19] LaserJock: i am running the update script [06:19] from the seeds [06:21] yeah, Sunday morning started 20 min ago :) [06:21] yeah [06:21] I'm up for some late hacking [06:22] oh ok [06:22] only 9:22 pm here [06:22] LaserJock: :) [06:22] I'm trying to do a web interface for importing code and unit test it [06:22] nice [06:23] I can't figure out how to make it secure enough :/ [06:23] what does a unit test mean? [06:24] check if the program output is the expected one [06:24] Gnight gents [06:24] Goodnight bddebian [06:26] It is well into Sunday afternoon here. [06:26] chroot, minimal language implementation, checking cpu/mem usage, what do I forget? ... [06:26] TheMuso: oh yeah, it still trips me up that you guys are *ahead* [06:27] hehe [06:27] theCore: so you give it something to chew on and compare it to an expected result? [06:27] TheMuso, pacific/Hawaii ? [06:27] LaserJock, yep [06:28] theCore: Sydney, Australia. [06:28] TheMuso, that's nice [06:28] TheMuso, I would like to go to Australia someday [06:29] except all the snakes and spiders and sharks [06:29] I watch to many nature show to feel comfortable with going to Australia ;-) [06:29] LaserJock: Its not that bad. [06:30] maybe NZ is better ;-) [06:31] I think I will build up a minimal distro for this project [06:32] with a dpkg/bzr/busybox/+{perl,python,ruby} tool set === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.64.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:33] it would certainly ease the maintenance === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:36] maybe I'm just doing too much for #ubuntu-trivia (my weekly quiz channel) [06:37] anyway, it's quite fun, and have nothing else to do [06:37] *cough* Packaging Guide *cough* [06:37] hehe [06:37] after [06:37] I'm taking notes, right now [06:39] LaserJock, talking about the PG, did saw the diff I sent? === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:41] theCore: where did you send it? [06:41] LaserJock, on the ML [06:41] LaserJock: the seeds are working! :) [06:42] joejaxx: \o/ [06:43] LaserJock: no problems whatsoever [06:43] LaserJock, the subject line is: "[Patch] Packaging with Debhelper" [06:44] theCore: oh yes [06:44] I was sort of waiting for the edgy branch to be created [06:44] which happened today [06:44] yeah [06:44] I saw mdke email [06:46] it's not a big diff, but it fixes minor things [06:46] some minor* [06:50] LaserJock: dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${fluxbuntu-minimal:Depends} [06:51] joejaxx: did you look at debian/rules ? [06:51] yes [06:51] I'm guessing the problem is there [06:52] http://fluxbuntu.org//view.php?id=169 [06:54] ohh [06:54] i think i know what the problem is [06:59] yeah? [06:59] nope [06:59] it still does it [07:00] LaserJock: do you have an ideas on that? [07:01] do you actually have minimal seeds? [07:01] yes [07:01] LaserJock: http://seeds.fluxbuntu.net/edgy [07:02] those are the seeds [07:03] which germinate fine through ./update [07:05] LaserJock: and the funny part is that the rules file actually looks right [07:05] yes it does [07:05] what does debian/control look like? [07:06] http://fluxbuntu.org//view.php?id=170 [07:07] ok [07:07] copy the source dir to a tmp location [07:08] the source dir? [07:08] what do you mean? [07:08] the while fluxbuntu-meta-0.1 folder? [07:09] whole* [07:11] LaserJock: ok i copied it [07:11] then go into it [07:11] ok [07:11] i am in the src folder [07:13] ok what to do now [07:14] run make -f debian/rules build [07:14] sorry, had a water spill [07:15] it is quite alright [07:15] do you see *.substvars files in debian/ ? [07:15] make: Nothing to be done for `build'. [07:15] LaserJock: yes i do [07:16] ok, so does fluxbuntu-minimal.substvars have anything in it [07:16] yeah [07:18] hmm === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:25] LaserJock: yeah i have no idea what the problem is === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:26] I was trying to look for typos or something like that [07:28] yeah === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:30] well, I've got to call it a night [07:30] I hope you can get that fixed joejaxx [07:30] I just don't see anything obvious [07:31] alright [07:31] goodnight LaserJock [07:33] I'm out too [07:33] g'night all [07:33] goodnight theCore === minghua [n=minghua@70.253.58.106] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === printk [n=jvaughn@unaffiliated/printk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === geser [n=michael@dialin104099.justdsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@70.253.58.106] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:33] so [08:33] i wonder how many more avahi-daemon not starting bugs we can get before edgy is released [08:33] maybe we should make it print a message [08:33] morning [08:33] 'Avahi is not enabled, check /etc/default/avahi-daemon' [08:33] o rsomething [08:34] Lathiat: think of how many you can collect after release [08:34] people won't see the message [08:34] heh [08:34] they will fi theyre tryign to start it manually [08:34] sudo /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon start style [08:34] which is what they seem to be doing [08:34] didn't we fix a small GUI starter for that? [08:34] oh right this guy was using the services utility [08:34] sivang: yeh problem si by default it doesnt start [08:35] sivang: which confuses the hell out of everyone [08:36] Lathiat: so let's have something popping once avahi is executed, and the daemon can't be found [08:36] Lathiat: and offer "Do you want to enable it" on the sport [08:36] spot [08:36] well [08:36] it depends what they're doing [08:37] moins all [08:37] heya sivang Lathiat [08:37] will it be hard to make smart guesses at what they're doing and act accordingly? [08:37] hey imbrandon ! [08:38] sivang: if for example they reboot and it "doesnt work" its hard [08:38] imbrandon: yo === Marsmensch [n=daniel@dslb-084-056-111-195.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:40] Lathiat: I would think this use case would be catered by offering to start the daemon any time a client can't connect to one locally, but then if it doesn't start due to a software crash or some other misfortuen the user would be mislead into an endless loop of "Do you want to enable?.." "Yes, sure I do!" "Daemon is not enabled, would you want to enable?"... and so forth [08:40] we would also have to pop up a window explaining about security due to this.. [08:43] you mean when a program cant find avahi running? [08:43] mm [08:43] Lathiat: yes, indeed. === reggaemanu_ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-134-75.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AnAnt [n=anant@81.10.9.182] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:56] ping lionelp [08:56] pong AnAnt [08:56] lionelp: you know about freecontrib.org ? [08:56] yes [08:57] lionelp: do they have an authentication key ? [08:58] lionelp: I got a problem updating from it today [08:58] lionelp: and their website is in french, that's why I ask u [08:58] lionelp: je ne comprends le francais [08:58] :) [08:58] hehe, that's like saying "no" to someone asking you if you can hear him :) [08:59] AnAnt: I have not the key because I am not using it, but i am searching on the website to see if they give it [08:59] k, thanks [09:03] AnAnt: sorry, I do not find any key [09:03] maybe, there is none [09:04] k [09:05] I got this from apt-get update: W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org edgy-plf Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718 === Zdra [n=zdra@43.247-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:12] gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key F120156012B83718 doesn't work? === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:32] Nafallo: yeah, thanks [09:32] np [09:33] Nafallo: now what should I do with it ? [09:35] Nafallo: nevermind, I found out ! === AnAnt [n=anant@81.10.9.182] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === nictuku [n=yves@ubuntu/member/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:00] t/wg 42 === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:21] any german guy awake? :-) === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-226-54.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:27] bwhahah === imbrandon dances [10:27] ajmitch, you round ? [10:29] TheMuso, ping [10:30] imbrandon, yo [10:30] heya lastnode [10:31] imbrandon, we're making some progress. i bet you're still busy though. maybe we'll package it after edgy ships? [10:31] yea we'll stick it in universe when the freeze is over ( after edgy ships ) === imbrandon finaly got the compiler to work correctly ;) [10:37] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25950/ [10:38] now to make pbuilder use it and make ppc packages === kristog [n=kristog@energ63.energ.polimi.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@70.253.58.106] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw8-feaff900-158.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lastnode_ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mr_pouit [n=mr_pouit@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-214-84.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:36] <\sh> moins [11:37] hey [11:37] moin \sh === Bazzi [n=Bastian@p5080378D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:38] zul: ping [11:39] <\sh> hey sivang === GreyStar [n=SoS@cpe-72-181-114-83.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #Ubuntu-Motu [11:40] good morning \sh and sivang [11:41] <\sh> ajmitch / siretart: regarding https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/wine/+bug/63274 ... ok to upload? [11:41] Malone bug 63274 in wine "UVF exception request wine 0.9.22" [High,Confirmed] === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu__ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-116-77.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:55] \sh: fine by me [11:56] \sh: hi [11:56] \sh: What a coincidence opening this window when you're discussing Wine [11:57] hey YokoZar [11:57] Hey there [11:57] <\sh> ajmitch: ok..uploaded :) [11:57] Any Wine questions while I'm here? === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.126.147.244] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:57] Red or White? [11:58] Q-FUNK: redmond red [11:58] LOL [11:58] that would be an awesome inside joke if someone were to make such a wine [11:58] <\sh> YokoZar: hehe..yeah sometimes there are little surprises... [11:59] \sh: Oh? [12:00] <\sh> YokoZar: in my company I'm always asked, why wine is not working in native 64bit mode on x86_64 arch ;) [12:01] Your company sounds like my email [12:01] Any luck getting it to compile on 64 bit? [12:01] I've seen like 5 howtos people have posted over the months but none of them work for building for me [12:01] <\sh> YokoZar: no...upstream told me, that wine on 64bit is right now in a very unusable state [12:02] <\sh> and not thinking about 32bit wine on 64bit arch [12:02] Pretty much. I'm more talking about building in 32-bit mode [12:02] YokoZar is one of upstream, right? [12:02] I make the winehq packages [12:03] <\sh> ajmitch: YokoZar is scott ritchie :) [12:03] yeah, that's what I thought [12:03] \sh: I know [12:03] <\sh> accepted wine 0.9.22 [12:04] great, thanks for that [12:04] You fixed the bug I opened ~ build depends right? [12:04] about libhal-dev, libgphoto2-2-dev, etc? [12:04] <\sh> YokoZar: yeah :) I read changelogs ;) [12:04] hot [12:04] YokoZar: that's in [12:05] \sh: might as well close bug 64065 then [12:05] Malone bug 64065 in wine "Missing build depends: libhal-dev, libhal-storage-dev, libgphoto2-2-dev" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64065 [12:05] So other than forcing the stack protector off at build time, is the package any different from mine? [12:06] <\sh> YokoZar: yes, I had to remove libjack-dev and libicu-dev from build-deps ... pbuilder doesn't like it [12:06] <\sh> YokoZar: but this I do since ages :) [12:07] <\sh> YokoZar: 64065 closed [12:07] Cool [12:08] Looks like when I start running an edgy system I'll be able to maintain the edgy branch of winehq very easy :) [12:08] YokoZar: that would be good [12:08] <\sh> :)) [12:08] <\sh> YokoZar: thx for your energy and time to maintain those packages for winehq :) === ajmitch should probably update his edgy i386 chroot that he uses for playing diablo 2 :) [12:09] <\sh> ajmitch: you should upgrade to WoW ;) [12:09] \sh: too expensive & easy to get addicted ;) [12:09] Part of me feels guilty for helping people play WoW... === tortoise_ [n=tortoise@194.164.140.64] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:09] besides, I only have a slow old amd64 with a geforce 6600 [12:10] <\sh> YokoZar: I don't play wow on wine :) actually I try to avoid using wine ;) [12:10] Frankly all I use it for these days is online poker and utorrent [12:10] And eMule, I guess [12:11] I haven't played d2 for a couple of months [12:11] & last time I tried it didn't like battle.net anyway === ajmitch needs to find a proper way to install from the legit cds [12:12] <\sh> so..what needs to be done for edgy [12:12] <\sh> unmet deps ? [12:12] yeah [12:13] http://ajmitch.net.nz/debuild/ubuntu/unmet/unmet.txt for a list I annotated a couple of days ago [12:13] I've got abotu 20 f-spot patches to pull from cvs, at the suggestion of an upstream developer :) === TomaszD [n=tom@unaffiliated/tomaszd] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:14] <\sh> what about the "new merges" ... that's unfair ,) [12:15] \sh: we're in universe upstream version freeze, so... [12:15] <\sh> ajmitch: yepp [12:16] we need to get stuff installable & try & fix as many *critical* bugs as possible [12:19] yay, another f-spot bug for me to fix === ajmitch needs more hours in the day === Q-FUNK needs help to fix a pygtk code segment === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:21] Q-FUNK: what's the problem? === imbrandon_ [n=imbrando@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:25] ajmitch: some hard-coded colors in the code I adopted. I would need to replace this with macros that adopt whatever the gtk2 theme offers. [12:26] however, I don't understand the way gtk2 theme inheritance works at all. [12:26] ah, neither do I sorry [12:27] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=374997 [12:27] Debian bug 374997 in wnpp "ITP: utf8-migration-tool -- tool to migrate a Debian system to UTF-8" [Wishlist,Open] [12:27] this is the problem spot [12:30] hm === ajmitch doesn't know where to fetch the current theme colours [12:30] <\sh> hmmm [12:31] <\sh> pygtk2? isn't there a nice tutorial on how to code pygtk the right way? [12:31] there might be [12:32] I'm not much of a coding type to begin with [12:32] IIRC there is one but I couldn't find the answer I need there. [12:33] <\sh> Q-FUNK: http://www.async.com.br/faq/pygtk/index.py?req=index [12:33] <\sh> http://www.async.com.br/faq/pygtk/index.py?req=show&file=faq04.006.htp [12:36] \sh: does that get the current theme settings? [12:36] it seems not. it just explains how to hard-code a color [12:38] <\sh> Q-FUNK: so..if you don't set a color, you should get the default [12:38] <\sh> shouldn't be different to qt [12:39] I don't know QT either, so I couldn't tell :) [12:39] <\sh> what about removing the line which are changing the color? [12:40] that makes it worse [12:40] sidebar_color = gtk.gdk.color_parse('#cccccc') [12:40] I have this [12:40] later on, it's used at [12:41] self.eventbox_top.modify_bg(gtk.STATE_NORMAL, self.sidebar_color) [12:41] <\sh> and removing the modify_bg call? [12:41] <\sh> (commenting in) [12:42] the color does need to be set, just it would need to inherit the theme [12:45] it needs to inherit the color for selected or disabled items === ctd [i=ctd@incubus.progsoc.uts.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:47] <\sh> hmm.... [12:48] <\sh> ask some gnome/gtk cracks ;) === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-226-54.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:50] <\sh> ok...doing some real live tasks [12:50] <\sh> bb [12:50] <\sh> bbl === lastnode__ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jekil [n=alessand@151.82.3.166] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:58] hm [12:59] Let's all hum! [01:00] nah, dsl just dropped for a couple of minutes [01:00] connection to freenode didn't disappear, thankfully [01:00] is this the hum shopping network? ;) === cvacubo [n=kvirc@25.gprs-nat.mtsnet.ru] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:09] Hello === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cvacubo [n=kvirc@25.gprs-nat.mtsnet.ru] has left #ubuntu-motu ["So] === cvacubo [n=kvirc@25.gprs-nat.mtsnet.ru] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.126.154.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-226-54.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cvacubo [n=kvirc@25.gprs-nat.mtsnet.ru] has left #ubuntu-motu ["So] === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw8-feaff900-158.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lastnode [n=lastnode@220.247.249.214] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:30] hello Hobbsee [01:30] hey ajmitch === BazziR [n=Bastian@p50801D98.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-38-54.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-120-226-54.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kristog [n=kristog@energ63.energ.polimi.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:01] Fujitsu: check query, /me is afk === Gervystar [n=alessand@2001:1418:1ce:0:20e:a6ff:fea4:4ab5] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jekil [n=alessand@151.82.12.200] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Goshawk [n=vincenzo@host17-95.pool80116.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.126.145.184] has joined #ubuntu-motu === iXce [n=ixce2@195-14-0-203.nuxit.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Every] === lastnode_ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-38-54.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === toby [n=toby@host-87-74-57-195.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:02] Heya gang === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukas__ [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:11] Hey, I have a simple upgrade to my gfceu package. It fixes a lot of annoying bugs, and it would be great to see in edgy. Could someone please upload it? It's been in the revu for a couple weeks. http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3214 [03:13] lukas__: it's after freeze, you'll need a UVF exception now [03:13] Hobbsee: Argh :-\ Would they give a UVF for a trivial program? [03:14] probably not. 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I am trying to compile a very simple helloword.c kernel module and gcc can't find this file, nor can I find it in synaptic. Anyone know where to find it? [05:24]