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ompaulmike-ekim, so now I want you to type, in the filter box: ipv6 it will give you two options12:01
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Davertohow do i turn off the frambuffer12:01
Davertoframebuffer*12:01
Teri2007how do I make new folders I upload via vsftpd default to a specific owner:group when I upload? I want to upload and have the folder be assigned to root:apachegrp rather than teri:teri12:01
Jowiloper06: I would recommend to get a static ip address (or a dynamic one that doesn't change very often)12:01
rootompaul do you know the name?12:01
ompaulmike-ekim, click on the top one until it goes bold (double click)12:01
mike-ekimi dont have ipv612:01
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Jowi!framebuffer12:01
ubotuIf you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer12:01
SeanTaterin order to compile qemu, apt-get says I have to remove libsdl1.2debian-alsa. Is that safe?12:01
ompaulmike-ekim, disable it12:01
megaqwertydoes anyone know where I could find a Edgy Eft .vmx file? I want to try it out.12:02
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ompaulmike-ekim,  then try it - it may improve your browsing - however 256 megs more ram would also be very useful12:02
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loper06Jowi: so the best and effiency way is just to use no-ip or a dynmaic dns provider?12:02
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Teri2007****how do I make new folders I upload via vsftpd default to a specific owner:group when I upload? I want to upload and have the folder be assigned to root:apachegrp rather than teri:teri12:02
jhasseHow to change the thing that will happen when i click the powerbutton on the front of my computer???12:02
ompaulmegaqwerty, edgy has its own channel #ubuntu+112:03
megaqwertythanks12:03
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pike_mike-ekim: you might cat /etc/resolv.conf and make sure only one nameserver is showing up there12:03
Teri2007jhasse, how do I change that too?12:03
DavertoI dont even get GRUB12:03
ompauljhasse, that is your hardware --- that is not a ubuntu issue12:03
SeanTaterTeri2007: you can probably upload from epiphany or konqueror, as long as you give them your user and password on the ftp server, that may make it easier12:03
Jowiloper06: i never used no-ip so I can not say. Myself, I have got a "dynamic" ipaddress but it never change. in my domain controller (which is at the company i bought the domain from) I can set the pointers12:04
jhasseompaul, But i can change it with windows, so linux can't?12:04
ompaulRookie_, what is your question in full?12:04
rootjowie it has 6 iron pins and12:04
kitchejhasse: it has to do with ACPI12:04
ompauljhasse, you mean you alter your bios? you do that by pressing F12 or Delete or F2 as the machine boots up12:04
Teri2007seantater?  who is "them"12:04
Jowiroot: ps2 connection probably12:05
vltHello. I have installed ubuntu Dapper and try to activate my notebook's wifi card. It's a Broadcom 4311 Chip so I did `modprobe bcm43xx` but when I run `iwconfig` no wireless extensions are found. What should I do?12:05
jhasseompaul, no, setting in the windows energy options12:05
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rootJowi thats right!:D12:05
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jhassekitche, Yes! How to change that?12:05
ompauljhasse, I know nothing of that o/s12:05
Jowiroot: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and hope that it will autodetect your mouse.12:05
Hoxzersomebody, make a email backup script for me12:05
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loper06Jowi: thx. ill just let my domain expire next month.12:05
DavertoWhenever I start my computer I dont even get GRUB, but I've got it before on other distros, what do I do?12:06
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kitchejhasse: look up changing ACPI settings in linux since I m not sure myself to be truthful12:06
sethkDaverto, boot the live cd or a rescue cd, to start with12:06
sethkDaverto, and then investigate what is going on.12:06
jhassekitche, where can i see the ACPI settings?12:06
DavertoI have and it workds12:06
Mogzhey everybody. i'm looking for a piece of music player software that can play all (most) formats and that supports gnome samba network URIs...12:06
GoldKeeperhow do i get a root account when running ubuntu live ?12:06
rootjowi it shows dev/input/mice12:06
Mogzany ideas?12:06
SqueeIs ther a good program I can play music out of without a gui, using just a terminal?  I need to be able to generate a playlist and then play it ou.12:07
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pauhi. i've got and hp with ubuntu, my mike dosen't work, some one can help me?12:07
sethkDaverto, ok.  have you tried reinstalling grub, using the grub utility?12:07
jhasseGoldKeeper, sudo -s12:07
kitchejhasse: I m not sure but it's probably in the Admin part of your Desktop12:07
DavertoHow do I do that?12:07
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sethkDaverto, that would be my first step.12:07
GoldKeeperthankyou12:07
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Jowiroot: sounds ok12:07
SqueeIs ther a difference between sudo -s and sudo su, other than sudo su lists the pwd?12:07
ompaulDaverto, it is fast about 2 seconds you can extend this by editing using the following command and increasing the seconds   >>>    sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst12:07
pauhi. i've got and hp with ubuntu, my mike dosen't work, some one can help me?12:07
sethkDaverto, best way is  to mount your root file system somewhere, do a chroot to it,12:07
sethkDaverto, then run grub from the command line.  Are you familiar with mount and chroot?12:07
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Davertono12:08
jhassekitche, hmm.. can't find it12:08
rootjowie still the same error12:08
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sethkDaverto, ok.  are you at the machine now, with the live (or rescue) cd booted?12:08
ompaulSquee, you don't need either do  " sudo -i " if you must - and yoiu should not - it is just not the right way to admin a box12:08
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Jowiroot: put the error in pastebin12:08
Jowi!pastebin12:08
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:08
Davertono im on another computer12:08
pike_pau: in a terminal run alsamixer and check the settings12:08
rootJowie is not that easy to do that with lynx:P12:09
ompauladioe3, english please12:09
dfgaswhat is the channel for edgy?12:09
sethkDaverto, it would be easier if you were at the broken one.  I can try to point you in the right direction12:09
Jowiroot: you got a point :)12:09
pau hi. i've got and hp with ubuntu, my mike dosen't work, some one can help me?12:09
Squeeompaul: It's just more conveniant when doing large tasks that require root to not have to type sudo before everything12:09
ompaul #ubuntu+112:09
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sethkDaverto, do you know the partition layout on the hard drive of the machine we are trying to fix?12:09
adioe3ompaul: sorry, an away message was set, forgot to turn it off12:09
ompaulSquee, sudo -i12:09
Jowiroot: have you tried with another mouse? will the mouse work with a live-cd?12:09
DavertoI cant because my wireless card requires ndiswrapper and i dont have 2 CD-roms12:09
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Squeealright12:09
inflexhi everyone.  I want to install vim 7 on my ubuntu box - however I see apt-get only goes to 6.4 vim atm... can I just install my own vim or will it bugger things up ?12:10
rootjowie lol i have installed it with floppies:P12:10
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sethkDaverto, we'll have to make the best of it then.  do you know the partition layout of the hard drive?12:10
Jowiroot: btw, did you compile your own kernel?12:10
rooti did the debian install12:10
Squeeinflex: go get checkinstall12:10
ompaul Daverto try a usb stick12:10
DavertoYes, i partitioned it myself12:10
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Squeeinflex: that will generate a debian for you so if you have to remove it it is alot more simple12:10
inflexSquee: okay, getting it... got it12:10
rootno i did not12:10
inflexSquee: tx.12:10
sethkDaverto, ok, so you know which partition is the root partition, and whether or not there is a separate boot partition?12:10
ompaul!checkinstall12:10
ubotucheckinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page. - DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!12:10
Squeeinflex: do the ./configure and instead of make & make install just run "sudo checkinstall"12:11
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Davertothere is a seperate boot partition12:11
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ompaulSquee, our bot has - cough - lots of clues :)12:11
sethkDaverto, ok.  is this an IDE disk?  primary master?  which partition is root, and which is boot?12:11
rootJowie i wanted to change all the debian names in the sources fromat and change it into ubuntu12:11
root_how do i mount a samba share?12:11
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THX-1138!ubotu is amnesiac12:11
sethkroot_, mount -t smbfs12:11
Squeeompaul: ha didn't know about that12:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is amnesiac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:11
rootbut i want gnomeworkingfirst:P12:11
klekkushi everybody (again, and again a problem). I now has a problem at boot up, as i had then too. But to the case, when i boot up ubuntu on my hda1 i get alot of lines with error simular to this; buffer I/O error on device dm-2, logical block. Do anyone know if i can edit something in /boot/grub/ etc to make ubuntu skip it? thanks12:12
ompaul!samba > root_12:12
vltroot_: mount -t cifs ...12:12
DavertoIDE, Pri, /swap is root and / is boot12:12
root_thats what i thought but it tells me bad fs or superblock12:12
Jowiroot: does "cat /proc/bus/input/devices" list your mouse?12:12
sethkDaverto, no, swap is swap.  root just means /.   if boot is separate, it is somewhere else12:12
klekkusit takes loooooooooootts of time to load the system because of these errors12:12
Davertolet me go check i pull it up on live CD12:13
ompaulklekkus, get a new disk soon, backup your existing data real soon12:13
sethkDaverto, what you need to know is, for example, first partition is /, second is /boot, third is swap (or of course whatever is actually true on this drive)12:13
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Squeeis there a program that can play music without having an xserver started?  I'm trying to run a game server / jukebox and I dont want to waste the ram for X12:13
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kmaynardklekkus, what did you do different before this started happening12:13
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aaron_hi12:13
sethkDaverto, also, I don't see what the wireless network has to do with being able to run the machine and talk to us at the same time.12:13
klekkusompaul, why, the systems seem to work well, and i cant afford to buy a new12:13
SkramXSquee: mp3blaster12:13
kitcheSquee: xmms2 mpd there is a couple12:13
sethkDaverto, unless you mean the only way you have to connect to the 'net is through the wireless.12:13
kmaynardSquee, look at mp3blaster12:13
aaron_im new to ubuntu and linux, and this is probably a stupid question, but...12:13
klekkuskmaynard, nothing, it has been like this since ive installed12:13
SkramX:)12:13
roothow did you spelldeveicescorr4rectly12:13
ompaulSquee, depends on file type I use ogg a lot so I end up with - ogg123 -d alsa09 path/file12:13
kmaynard!mp3blaster12:14
ubotump3blaster: Full-screen console mp3 and ogg vorbis player. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:3.2.0-7 (dapper), package size 191 kB, installed size 612 kB12:14
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Squeemp3 blaster sounds good12:14
Davertothat is my only connection to the internet on that computer12:14
kitcheaaron_: no such thing as a stupid question really well besides one not asked12:14
aaron_i cant use any of the symbols on my keyboard, the symbols you access by holding down shift and pressing 1, 2, 3, etc.12:14
Squeethanks!12:14
SkramX:)12:14
SkramXsure12:14
ompaulSquee, pm?12:14
kitcheaaron_: it's alt not shift12:14
aaron_like the 'at' symbol and 'dollar' symbol12:14
klekkusbefore i ran windows, now i run linux ( ubuntu ). It loads ubuntu after a long while, but it works seemless when its loaded. Exact the same with windows. My question is, is there a way to make ubuntu ignore these errors?12:14
Jowiroot: does "cat /proc/bus/input/devices" list your mouse?12:14
aaron_ah12:14
MotorCityMadMan how/can one clean/clear out old stored commands in run command box ?12:14
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Squeeompaul: ?12:15
kitcheaaron_: ah those hmm thought you meant the alt codes12:15
kitcheaaron_: probably you have a wrong keyboard configuration12:15
sethkDaverto, ok, but you can have the machine next to you and talk to us using the machine you are using at the moment.12:15
Davertoyes12:15
kmaynardklekkus, what file system?12:15
sethkDaverto, ok, that makes things a bit easier12:15
klekkusext312:15
root[A[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[jowie it says unknownfileor dir12:16
Davertothew other computer is booting the Live CD now12:16
sethkDaverto, ok, so you are about to do    fdisk -l /dev/hda         for us.12:16
klekkuskmaynard, but isnt it a simply parameter to add in grub config to make it being ignored?12:16
rootJowie it says unknown file oor dir12:16
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Davertoi have to wait it is loading now12:16
sethkklekkus, make it ignore what, exactly?12:16
sethkDaverto, ok12:16
klekkusbuffer I/O error on device dm-2, logical block <- these errors:)12:17
kmaynardklekkus, what file system?12:17
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klekkusext312:17
kitcheklekkus: not really since it's after grub gives control to the kernel12:17
rootJowie the dir bus only contains the dirs usb and pci12:17
THX-1138Squee: mpg321 or the closed source mpg12312:17
klekkuskitche, okey, is it a way to configure the kernel to ignore it?12:17
sethkklekkus, those are not normal things.  I wouldn't ignore it, even if I could.  You need to figure out what is actually going on.12:17
aaron_ok... left alt doesnt give me anything and right alt doesnt give me the symbols that match with whats above the key12:17
Jowiroot: does "mount" show you "proc on /proc...." ?12:17
sethkklekkus, depends on why it is happening.12:17
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sureshotcrippy is there a good compiler out there for ubuntu just wondering12:18
klekkussethk, and i have no clue why..12:18
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rootJowie yes andits rw12:18
Davertoit give -i as an invalid option12:18
kitcheaaron_: check your keyboard configuration you might have a wrong configuration ebfore I thought you mean altcodes not the symbols above the numpad12:18
sethkDaverto, dash L, not dash i12:18
sethkDaverto, lower case l,   fdisk -l /dev/hda12:18
aaron_no no, not above numpad, the main numbers in one row12:18
THX-1138sethk: Can i make grub skip network devices? "Configuring network devices" freezes the system after configuring Ralink Wifi.12:18
kitchesureshot: umm gcc g++12:19
sethkDaverto, your font must make l and i look similar  :)12:19
nox23Im looking for someone using a Hauppauge WINTV PVR-150/250 or 350 , Please!!12:19
sureshotkitche hay and do you have a list of commands and tip and such that you have put together is so could you send them to me12:19
vltHello. I have installed ubuntu Dapper and try to activate my notebook's wifi card. It's a Broadcom 4311 Chip so I did `modprobe bcm43xx` but when I run `iwconfig` no wireless extensions are found. What should I do?12:19
sethkTHX-1138, that happens after grub transfers control to the kernel.12:19
klekkusmay it be fixed with a defrag?12:19
Jowiroot: can you modprobe mousedev and psmouse and see if that works?12:19
Davertono, it has 4 options12:19
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sethkDaverto, what has 4 options?12:19
nox23Im looking for someone using a Hauppauge WINTV PVR-150/250 or 350 , Please!!.12:19
DavertoShould i be using terminal on the live cd os12:19
sethkDaverto, yes.12:19
kitcheaarpm_: yes I know what you mean I call that a numpad as well12:19
sethkDaverto, I assumed you were already at a terminal, sorry.12:19
sureshotthanks kitche is that installed with ubuntu or in the repos12:19
THX-1138sureshot - GCC is standards compliant. - some havee recommended Anjuta as i87~6ua development environment.12:20
DigitalNinjaWhat's a good wireless pci card? I need one that works out of the box.12:20
nox23Im looking for someone using a Hauppauge WINTV PVR-150/250 or 350 , Please!!..12:20
THX-1138Thanks Sethk12:20
SkippyXGot a problem running synaptic. Tried to uninstall an app using synaptic and got an error message regarding kdeedu-doc-html. text of message posted here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25927/12:20
Davertoit says i have four options to to run the fdisk program with12:20
kitchesureshot: install build-esstenial(bad spelling) if you haven't already12:20
sethkbuild-essential12:20
sethkis the right spelling12:20
nox23Im looking for someone using a Hauppauge WINTV PVR-150/250 or 350 , Please!!...12:20
SkippyXIt's a recurrent problem. Happens when I try to use synaptic to install apps as well.12:20
SkippyXAny suggestions?12:20
sethknox23, probably nobody here at this moment is using it.  be patient12:20
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rootmoucedevit cant locate moucedev and what was the other one?12:21
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nox23sethk can you take a moment and see if you can help me ?12:21
sureshotTHX-1138 i was thinking for kicks to recompile the kernel12:21
jhasseHow can i activate 60 hz for my monitor? At the moment it's only supporting 75 hz12:21
sethknox23, sure, but I don't have that card.12:21
THX-1138sureshot - hm - avoid irssi as your irc client. What was i87- ??12:21
nox23sethk www.pastebin.us/612412:21
Jowiroot: "mousedev" and "psmouse" check the spelling12:21
sethkSkippyX, trie creating an empty file with that name (make sure it is rw)12:21
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nox23sethk im getting this using dmesg12:21
klekkusanyone knows?12:21
SkippyXsethk - K. I'll give it a go.12:21
nox23sethk but all needed files are in lib/firmware12:22
sureshotthanks kitche i will do that i have not done that do i need to download the gcc before i build12:22
m1n1I'm out of space of my root-partiotion, how do i grow it up?12:22
THX-1138sureshot - grab build-essential and the header files for your kernel.12:22
sethknox23, does the file it is complaining about exist?  v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw?12:22
rootJowie indeed mousedev works12:22
THX-1138!build-essential12:22
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)12:22
sethknox23, sorry, you were typing and I was typing at the same time  :)12:22
aaron_how do you scroll back in irssi12:22
Jowiroot: and you need "psmouse" now as well12:22
Davertoi m in terminal and it says that -i is an invalid option and then it lists four options of what i can launch with the fdisk program12:22
sethknox23, my first guess would be that it is looking for the firmware in a different place.12:23
sethkDaverto, dash L, not dash I12:23
sethkDaverto, lower case L         fdisk -l /dev/hda12:23
THX-1138aaron_ pgup12:23
rootJowdi can i aot get it?12:23
sureshotTHX-1138  thanks man12:23
nox23but /lib/firmware is where hotplugs firmwares are supposed to be no ?12:23
sureshotkitche hay and do you have a list of commands and tip and such that you have put together is so could you send them to me12:23
Jowiroot: "modprobe psmouse" should do it12:23
eraccgnomefreak, ompaul, you both said my /nick earlier? About an hour ago.12:23
rootJodi can i aptget it?12:23
srikanthssnmy drapper hangs while upgrading or installing certain packages. it hangs at the moment "upgrading gnome-lib-docs" I got the same problem while trying to install Kaffine, F-Spot someone please help..12:23
rootJowi that can find module12:24
gnomefreakeracc: mine was a completion error12:24
sethknox23, possibly.  if a file isn't found, there are only a couple of possibilities.  (1) it's in the wrong place or (2) it has the wrong permissions.12:24
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eraccgnomefreak, ah, ok.12:24
kitchesureshot: not really sicne it depends on the thing that your compiling12:24
nox23sethk i did chmod 777 firmware .. :P12:24
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Jowiroot: strange. try to start Xorg anyway. if it doesn't work I would suggest you install Ubuntu properly.12:24
sethknox23, a few lines before the end, you have a "misaligned resource pointer" message.  that may be the real problem12:24
rootJowi ok12:25
sethknox23, or there may be more than one problem.12:25
srikanthssngoogle doesnt help me.. please help..12:25
DavertoIt sdays that it cannot open /dev/hda12:25
sureshotkitche i was looking only for stuff to learn about.. i am a noob at this i an only thinking of doing that just to learn how is all any info anyone and send me will not go to wast on ubuntu12:25
sethkDaverto, ok, then your drive isn't IDE primary master12:25
sethkDaverto, or the required IDE drivers are not loaded.12:26
sethkDaverto, are you sure it isn't an SATA drive?12:26
Davertoit is IDE12:26
Davertoi know12:26
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THX-1138aaron_: http://f0rked.com/public/irssi-docs/help-full.html irssi12:26
Davertoi work with computers a lot12:26
nox23sethk ight.. i complete every possible howtos about his and read all forums12:26
sureshotDaverto what kind of data cable do you have on it12:26
ompauleracc, errors of tab12:26
kitcheroot is your Xorg complaining about /dev/mouse0? or no since I had that problem12:26
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Davertothe side of the case is currently open12:26
sethkDaverto, I don't mean to be insulting, but remember, I don't know anything about you.12:26
nox23sethk reinstalling windows :/12:26
dfgasroot@ubuntu:/boot/grub# grub-install hd012:26
dfgas/dev/hdd1: Not found or not a block device.12:26
dfgasroot@ubuntu:/boot/grub#12:26
Davertothat is fine12:26
srikanthssnmy drapper hangs while upgrading or installing certain packages. it hangs at the moment "upgrading gnome-lib-docs" I got the same problem while trying to install Kaffine, F-Spot someone please help..12:27
sethknox23, I wish I had the card here so I could be more help.12:27
dfgasbut i edited everything i can think of12:27
sureshotDaverto same here12:27
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sethkDaverto, at the risk of doing it again, do you have a regular IDE cable or an EIDE cable?  if EIDE, is the drive jumpered for cable select?12:27
eraccompaul, yeah, I figured that out from what gnomefreak said. Looks like someone with a nick starting with "er" got all the ops attention. :-)12:27
Davertono i have it set for master12:27
gnomefreakeracc: it was erUSUL  that i was attempting to talk to12:27
sethkDaverto, if it's an EIDE cable, it must be jumpered as cable select.  the eide cable has one blue, one grey, and one black connector.12:28
SkippyXsethk - directory ./kmessedwords wasn't there. created it and now I'm trying synaptic to install something small...12:28
eraccgnomefreak, yes, I saw that when I went back and looked after you told me it was a nick completion error.12:28
Davertobrb12:28
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THX-1138srikanthssn: I am curious about that. - no reall ideas - Has a syntax erro crept into your sources list?12:28
sethkSkippyX, k12:28
Elmisterse12:28
Elmisterwe12:29
sureshotgnomefreak i would like to ask if you have any ubuntu crib sheets or so that you can share with me. command line stuff is hard to learn if you have to look up everthng you have to do LOL12:29
srikanthssnno my source list in clean12:29
SkippyXdanged dial-up12:29
srikanthssni checked that too12:29
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Elmisterhi all12:29
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ompauleracc, shhhh12:29
ompaul:)12:29
|chris3|I have the oddest issue12:29
Elmistersomeone can speak italian?12:29
ompaul!it12:29
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:29
gnomefreak!commands12:29
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands12:29
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gnomefreaksureshot: ^^^12:29
|chris3|my screen goes blank every time I watch a video file in totem for longer than 15 min.12:29
spiwaterwingprobably sleep mode12:29
|chris3|If I move the mouse then the sreen comes back.12:29
spiwaterwingyah12:30
spiwaterwingit's just your computer sleeping to conserve power12:30
Phlosten|chris3|: screen saver options12:30
SkippyXsethk, that got it. thank you, sirrah! 'twas a maddening thing,  yet a simple fix (which is often the case, I've found).12:30
Davertonow i dosent even recognise the HD12:30
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|chris3|Phloesten: the screen saver is set for two hours12:30
srikanthssnTHX-1138: can i do anything abt tat?12:30
|chris3|Phloesten: it will come on if I don't play a video file12:30
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THX-1138!easysource12:31
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic12:31
eraccsureshot, I think you would be helped by browsing tldp.org and by getting yourself a copy of Rute (http://rute.2038bug.com/).12:31
sureshoteracc what is Rute12:31
Daverto[16:08]  <Daverto> How do I do that?12:31
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Daverto[16:08]  <sethk> Daverto, that would be my first step.12:31
Daverto[16:08]  <GoldKeeper> thankyou12:31
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Daverto[16:08]  <Jowi> root: sounds ok12:31
Daverto[16:08]  <Squee> Is ther a difference between sudo -s and sudo su, other than sudo su lists the pwd?12:31
Daverto[16:08]  <ompaul> Daverto, it is fast about 2 seconds you can extend this by editing using the following command and increasing the seconds   >>>    sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst12:31
andreasdkIsn't there a plugin for Firefox that enables you to be taken to a new tab with the Compose mail feature whenever you press a mailaddress on a site??12:31
Daverto[16:08]  <pau> hi. i've got and hp with ubuntu, my mike dosen't work, some one can help me?12:31
eraccsureshot, I just gave you a URL for it. Go see. :-p12:31
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|chris3|spiwaterwing: the sound is still running but the monitor gets no signal until I move the mouse12:31
Phlostenick12:31
sureshotok12:31
kitcheDaverto?12:32
spiwaterwing|chris3|: I see.  Odd.12:32
Phlosten|chris3|: power saving option set from in bios?12:32
THX-1138eracc - that link to rute is golden. - thank you.12:32
eraccTHX-1138, glad to help. :-)12:32
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aaron_next question, how do i check keyboard configuration12:33
|chris3|spiwaterwing: yes odd12:33
ompaulkitche, he be shut up for a few mins12:33
andreasdkCan someone please help me?12:33
andreasdkIsn't there a plugin for Firefox that enables you to be taken to a new tab with the Compose mail feature whenever you press a mailaddress on a site??12:33
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A-L-P-H-AAnyone know of an app that will test the speed of a harddrive in linux?  Looking to test the througput/bandwidth of a raid array12:34
Davertosorry12:34
THX-1138http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz - awesome tips eracc12:34
Davertoirc conn went bad12:34
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|chris3|phlosten: it happend afer I updated my kernel a few weeks ago12:35
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eraccandreasdk, there is no builtin mail in Firefox. You can set an external mail handler with the network.protocol-handler.app.mailto config.12:35
andreasdkSeriously... There's got to be tons of the darn things outthere....!12:35
kitcheDaverto: you do know you got muted for pasteing all of that in her right?12:35
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gnomefreakhere12:35
gnomefreaknot in her12:35
sureshoteracc was that www.tlpd.org or http://tlpd.org12:35
gnomefreakompaul: did you remove the mute?12:36
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Davertono12:36
ompaulyes12:36
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eraccsureshot, both should work.12:36
andreasdkeracc: How do i find that little cousin???12:36
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ompaulDaverto, ... I muted you due to the paste I12:36
sureshotreacc www did notwork i will attemp the other12:36
THX-1138the linux documentation project tldp.org12:36
ompaulalso removed it12:36
Davertoit was an acciddent12:36
Davertomessed up on keys12:37
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eraccandreasdk, in Firefox's location bar type 'about:config', press enter and then use the search bar shown to lookup 'mail'.12:37
dfgascan anyone help me with grub?12:37
pauhi. i've got and hp with ubuntu, my mike dosen't work, some one can help me?12:37
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Davertoubuntu is loading now since i switched it back to master12:37
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sureshoteracc i cant get either to work ... i will scroll back and make sure i typed it correctly12:38
eraccsureshot, sec. Let me try here.12:38
ompaulDaverto, the point of the mute is to let the paste go by (and some of them can take a minute or two to clear)12:38
pauhi. i've got and hp with ubuntu, my mike dosen't work, some one can help me?12:38
eraccsureshot, http://tldp.org/ works from here.12:38
Davertothanks!!12:38
THX-1138http://tldp.org/ sureshot12:39
ompaulpau,  double click on the "speaker" top right hand corner choose the "capture" and "switches"12:39
sureshoteracc the second letter  i l as in lemon12:39
dfgaslupine_85: any idea what i have missed with grub?12:39
eraccYes12:39
sureshoti=is12:39
eraccNot one.12:39
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THX-1138Hi @ompaul12:39
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pauopaul, it is switch on!!12:39
eraccsureshot, it stands for The Linux Documentation Project - tldp.12:39
ompaulTHX-1138, hope that was of use eariler12:39
lupine_85dfgas: not a clue, sorry12:40
lupine_85maybe you need to run update-grub or... something12:40
paudo i need some special driver?12:40
THX-1138ompaul - i looked a little. - i need to look at more links12:40
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andreasdkeracc: Hate to tell you this but i cannot find a "mail" anywhere12:40
sureshoteracc must be the pain meds rotf hehe i just clicked on the url here it worked sorry man this back thing is not a good thing to have thanks12:40
THX-1138ompaul - Thank You12:41
ompaulTHX-1138, np12:41
eraccandreasdk, did you type - about:config - in the lookup bar?12:41
andreasdkyes12:41
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maxLFHey12:41
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maxLFHow do I switch from the onboard graphics card to my ne video card?12:41
andreasdkeracc: yes i did12:41
eraccandreasdk, then did you see the "Filter:" bar?12:41
sureshoteracc hope i did not annoy you if i did sorry12:41
andreasdkyes12:42
Teri2007how do I remove a directory/folder.  I can get rm to work12:42
eraccsureshot, no worries dude.12:42
dfgaswell i guess i will reinstall ubuntu then  :(12:42
DigitalNinjais a Pentium 3 and AMD k7 about the same12:42
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eraccandreasdk, when you type 'mail' in the filter it pulls up nothing?12:42
maxLFHow do you change from onboard graphics on a motherboard to a graphics card?12:42
JowimaxLF: in your BIOS12:42
kitchemaxLF: you should be able to disable your onboard though the bios and install the video drivers for your graphic card12:42
gnomefreakmaxLF: disable the onboard card in your bios12:42
maxLFokay12:42
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piedoggieQ: have multiple virt machines (ubuntu) running on XP.  I want to import part of the XP file system to store working data, bzr archives, etc. for each virtual machine.  the Q is what is the best network file system for exporting the xp fiilesystem (i.e. will maintain correct uid, gid, perms)12:43
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andreasdkeracc: Something about GTDGMAIL, which is to be removed next time i strat firefox but nothin else.12:43
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eraccandreasdk, hmmm, I guess I added that by hand here. Let me get the details for you.12:44
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THX-1138piedoggie: export? - isn't it the host treated as a seperate machine on a seperate network link?12:44
shea(warning, about to repeat myself from 2 hours ago): well, hrm.  anyone ever had issues with extremely latent (possibly just slow) USB?  i'm using a motion controller and the input rate is what seems to be 2 samples/sec, same with other usb devices, mouse pointer updates ~2fps, etc.12:44
sheawell, almost.12:44
chrismurfJust got a new laptop with Core 2 Duo.  It's 64bit and Dual Core - what's the right Kernel to use?12:44
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superkirbyartistSorry, but I am very disappointed of the incompatibility of the printer.12:44
UKMattwhats the difference between 32 and 64 bit?12:45
THX-1138chismurf - -smp12:45
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freemindUKMatt: ask wikipedia12:45
chrismurfTHX-1138, thanks - that will take advantage of the 64b?12:45
eraccshea, IMO USB is cheap crap. One gets that for which one pays. ;-)12:45
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UKMattwell.. i wanna figure out whether I should use 32 or 64 on my computer12:45
piedoggiethx-1138  yes it is.  all N machines are treated as seperate machines12:45
THX-1138chismurf - go 32 bit - 64 multimedia and flash are horrid.12:45
superkirbyartistI am sorry I would just like assistance.12:45
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freemindUKMatt: u'll find answers there12:45
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gnomefreakTHX-1138: its not horrid its non-exsitant12:46
ompaulUKMatt, 32 if you like it easy and want multimedia - 64 if you want a database server with more than 4 gigs and12:46
sheaeracc, i agree :)12:46
baconbaconsuperkirbyartist, what's the problem12:46
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superkirbyartistAll my print jobs say "Stopped: job-stopped" :-(12:46
sheabut most of my devices are usb12:46
piedoggieI'm running a bridged interface for all of the public interfaces for all virt machines12:46
sheaunfortunate but true12:46
superkirbyartistDouble bacon LOL :-D12:46
paumy capture funtion dosn't work, what can i do?12:46
squee_ukmat: 64bit is a nightmare for use in anything other than a server12:46
THX-1138lol @ gnomfreak - yes erm that too.12:46
shealuckily my real mouse is ps/2, heh.12:46
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eraccshea, I understand. Even I, the USB loather, has some USB junk. :-p12:46
UKMattompaul, well just basic computer use, some movies and music though12:46
UKMattompaul, it's for my pc12:46
gnomefreakUKMatt: you want 32bit12:46
sheaeracc, hard not to12:47
freemindhehe gnomefreak :)12:47
chrismurfTHX-1138, gnomefreak thanks ;-)  I'll hold off on the 64bit for now ;-)12:47
UKMattgnomefreak, alright ty!12:47
gnomefreakhe said movies and music12:47
sheathanks to marketing!12:47
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andreasdkeracc: Any luck with those strings?12:47
gnomefreakhe doesnt want 64 for that12:47
sureshothey all i thought the dual 2 core was 2 32 bit cpu's side by side will it run 64 bit12:47
piedoggieand a common net isolated from the public interfaces for host to guest private comms12:47
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ompaulUKMatt, 32bit12:47
squee_sureshot: core 2 duo if that's what you mean is 2 64bit cores12:47
superkirbyartistbaconbacon?  What do you suggest?12:47
UKMattya, i think i'm gonna try Vista, i'm still an Ubuntu fan though.. don't worry12:47
gnomefreaksureshot: no i think you need a 64bit cpu12:47
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chrismurfcore duo is 2 32bit12:48
chrismurfcore 2 duo is 2 64bit12:48
superkirbyartistUKMatt: I happen to have a Vista RC1 DVD, but you need 512MB memory, but no 64bit.12:48
jpcaron!nvidia12:48
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:48
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eraccandreasdk, ok, what I did was create a new file in my Firefox settings folder (~/.mozilla/firefox/<junkstring>.default/) called 'user.js'.12:48
sureshotchrismurf thanks man i had it mixed up12:48
piedoggieUKMatt: me to.  need to keep xp primary os but vm lets me have ubuntu near to hand12:48
Ash-FoxHow do I disable preempt in the kernel?12:48
ompaulsuperkirbyartist, lexmark are the problem, get onto your retailers case, and say where is your support for GNU/Linux and Ubuntu in particualr12:48
squee_core duo is fake 64 bit12:48
gnomefreaklexmark drivers are fun to build :(12:49
UKMattsuperkirbyartist, yeah I have 512, i've been holding off because I'm afraid it will be a little slow, but I wanna try it12:49
eraccandreasdk, then I put this line in that file: user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.mailto","/usr/bin/kmail");12:49
superkirbyartistAll jobs are stopped; Ubuntu printer detected.12:49
baconbaconsuperkirbyartist, did you install a printer with system -> admin -> printing?12:49
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superkirbyartistGo ahead.12:49
sheahrm, so, with misbehaving USB (works but slow), where would be a good place to start at least?  I'm not used to all this linux stuff, coming from irix. heh.12:49
chrismurfTHX-1138, gnomefreak , so - can I upgrade to SMP from an x86 install12:49
chrismurfor will the world end12:49
superkirbyartistUKMatt: That is why there are trial DVDs.12:49
UKMattpiedoggie, well i've actually changed to Ubuntu as primary, but i'll duel boot into vista12:49
sureshotsquee what do you mean by fake 64 bit .. i understand that amd is only the true 64 bit cpu12:49
gnomefreakcan we please move the vista support somewhere else?12:49
eraccandreasdk, of course you will want to change "/usr/bin/kmail" to YOUR mail handler.12:49
gnomefreakchrismurf: yes12:49
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chrismurfgnomefreak, thanks12:49
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andreasdkeracc: Thanks a lot!12:49
sheathe modules and settings and such i've looked at seem correct12:50
UKMattsuperkirbyartist, hows the speed for you with 512?12:50
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Crippy-Boysureshot, Some of the Pentium D series are 64 bit12:50
squee_chrismurf: I think smp is built into all of the newer kernels12:50
sureshothay all vista is a bad bad work heheh12:50
Crippy-Boysureshot, and i believe the xeon is12:50
eraccandreasdk, you're welcome. IIRC I found out how to do that using an AltaVista web search.12:50
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sureshotwork=word12:50
DarrageAnyone here know about Wine? *newbie needs help*12:50
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squee_sureshot: I was told that it can run 64bit operations systems but never to do it because it's done wrong.  I dont know much more than that12:50
piedoggieUKMatt:  that works too.  right now, I'm using xchat in ubuntu in vmware on xp12:50
sheabios is normal, controlled is found.  i get some strange output about the controller irq (saying "nobody cared" on the irq), but i tried what it suggsted to no avail12:50
sheasigh12:50
sheacontroller*12:50
superkirbyartistUKMatt: Sorry to tell you, but I have two 256MB computers; so I would need to put both RAM modules in a PC... too complicated.  I am happy with Linux except for that job stopped comment?12:51
UKMattpiedoggie, oh nice, I've done VMware (through ubuntu) and it was too much of a performance hit for me to deal a lot with it12:51
gnomefreakUKMatt: and EVERYONE ELSE for vista support call MS but not in here12:51
eracchttp://www.altavista.com/web/results?itag=ody&q=firefox+mailto+mailer&kgs=0&kls=112:51
piedoggieso if I can get the file system issues worked out, I'm be in happy land12:51
sureshotCrippy-boy xeon is but it has to be p4 xeon i have a computer with 2 xeon p3 they are 32 bit12:51
sethkshea, tell us the exact message about nobody cared12:51
eraccBah, andreasdk left while I was typing. :-p12:51
sheasure, one sec.12:51
UKMattgnomefreak, what?12:51
sureshotsquee_ thanks12:51
piedoggieUKMat: weird.  I've seen the same perf hit on a pre-vanderpool cpu12:52
ompaulUKMatt, leave the MS stuff out of here12:52
gnomefreakUKMatt: this is not the place for MS vista questions comments or support12:52
ompaulUKMatt, pay microsoft for the support we do Ubuntu support here12:52
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sethkompaul, he's gone12:52
wildchildwhy won't k3b burn avdio data project: unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format  (format is mp3)12:53
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THX-1138UKMatt: Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain at your own peril dorothy12:53
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sheasethk, "irq 6: nobody cared (try booting with the "irqpoll" option)"12:53
ompaulsethk, ehh you don't say12:53
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ompaulactually you do say :)12:53
sheathen "Disabling IRQ #6" nearly immediately follows12:53
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Crippy-BoyJeez, someone should write a script that repeats any sentence with the string 'ms' in it 50 times, it'd save some of you alot time12:53
squee_wildchild you have to install mp3 for k3d12:53
UKMattalright what about this, this is an ubuntu question, if I put vista on does that override my GRUB12:53
Crippy-BoyUKMatt, yes12:53
gnomefreakCrippy-Boy: we only _need_ to say it once12:54
sethkUKMatt, no, that's not an ubuntu question.  that is a what happens when I install vista question12:54
wildchildsquee_ how do I do that?12:54
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eraccUKMatt, install all other operating systems AFTER Windoze.12:54
piedoggieUKMatt:  perf is not as much of a prob on modern dual core cpu's12:54
squee_wildchild: apt-get install libk3b2-mp3 I think12:54
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Crippy-Boygnomefreak, I was being sarcastic because of the above, about 6 people said it twice :-)12:54
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squee_wildchild: you might need the plf repositories to do it though12:54
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gnomefreakUKMatt: win 2k was the only one that had a bootloader to boot linux12:54
xorAxAxhi12:54
UKMattsethk, chill12:54
xorAxAxhow do i process /var/crash data?12:54
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piedoggie*OR* run vmware on windows and use full screen mode :0(12:54
Crippy-Boysuperkirbyartist, You should learn how to deal with the keyboard first12:55
xorAxAxas in "load it into gdb" or "get the backtrace" and not "put it into launchpad"12:55
lupine_85superkirbyartist: run "fg"12:55
sethkUKMatt, I'm not being difficult, I'm clarifying for you what software is responsible for what configuration12:55
personame12:55
superkirbyartistgnomefreak: What are you talking about?  Win XP can work alongside Linux!  But I removed XP.12:55
persohi !12:55
gnomefreaksuperkirbyartist: you didnt read what i said12:55
ompaulsuperkirbyartist, remove the printer from the "printers" in system administration printers, power it off, power off the ubuntu machine, power onthe printer, and then the ubuntu machine, now install the printer and it should be okay12:55
superkirbyartistfg?12:55
gnomefreaksuperkirbyartist: xps bootloader will not boot linux12:55
sethksuperkirbyartist, he meant that the native windows boot manager for 2k was able to boot linux.  not relevant, really.12:55
Crippy-Boysethk, But it would affect his ubuntu install.12:55
eraccsuperkirbyartist, <gnomefreak> UKMatt: win 2k was the only one that had a bootloader to boot linux <- you did not understand12:55
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lupine_85gnomefreak: there's a hacked version that does, apparently... but yeah. pointless when you consider grub12:56
sheaman i feel sorry for you guys, look at all these questions :[12:56
sethkCrippy-Boy, possibly, who knows?  It's a vista question.12:56
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superkirbyartistbash: fg: current: no such job12:56
gnomefreaklupine_85: hacked versions and windows go hand in hand in this channel12:56
sethkCrippy-Boy, depends entirely on what vista does w.r.t. the mbr.  has nothing whatsoever to do with ubuntu.12:56
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superkirbyartistgnomefreak: Ubuntu comes with GRUB.12:56
gnomefreakWindows comments in another channel please12:56
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eraccshea, this is what happens when an OSS distribution becomes popular with the "unwashed masses". ;-)12:56
aboutblankso i'm trying to make an logical volume... "pvcreate /dev/hda3"... the answer literally alternates between "successfully created" and "failed to write physical volume". when i try to vgcreate, it says "no physical volume label read" and "not identified as an existing physical volume"12:57
sureshoti thought all ms products were hacked hehe12:57
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Crippy-Boysethk, No but my point is, The MBR bring overwriten would cause him to be unable to boot ubuntu, which then becomes a ubuntu question reguardless of what caused it12:57
gnomefreaksuperkirbyartist: re-read it until you understand it12:57
sheaeracc, whatever it takes i guess :p12:57
superkirbyartistRe-read what time?12:57
sethkCrippy-Boy, that's pretty thin12:57
lupine_85!grub12:57
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:57
lupine_85one answer :)12:57
UKMattCrippy-Boy> sethk, No but my point is, The MBR bring overwriten would cause him to be unable to boot ubuntu, which then becomes a ubuntu question reguardless of what caused it  <-- that's my point12:57
xorAxAxhow do i process /var/crash data?12:58
xorAxAxnobody?12:58
piedoggiestill looking for some suggestions for my mixed ubuntu/windows file system questions12:58
gnomefreakxorAxAx: you dont have /var/crash in dapper12:58
xorAxAxgnomefreak: oh, i am not on dapper12:58
gnomefreakxorAxAx: join #ubuntu+112:58
xorAxAxgnomefreak: cool12:58
ompaul!grub > piedoggie12:58
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UKMattIf I were to install it how would I be able to re-enable GRUB12:58
sethkUKMatt, by that logic any question about anything whatsoever about the mbr is an ubuntu question, which is absurd.  but we've beaten it enough12:58
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gnomefreak!grub > UKMatt12:58
sethkUKMatt, boot the live cd, and reinstall grub from there12:58
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wasabi_piedoggie: What are you looking for?12:59
ompaulpiedoggie, that is the only comment on it12:59
freemindlol sethk12:59
piedoggieompaul:  :-)12:59
sethkUKMatt, or boot a rescue cd.12:59
THX-1138ompaul - workaround for the wifi "configuring network devices" lock up - configure (??) initrd then load wifi modules at the desktop with insmod. - sound at all possible? it sounds difficult.12:59
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freemindlovely, sethk12:59
freemindwhere are you from12:59
Crippy-Boysethk, Yes that is absurd, But if he is unable to boot ubuntu, Then it becomes a ubuntu problem *for him*.12:59
piedoggieompaul: vmware machines running ubuntu12:59
superkirbyartistAHEN gninefreaj,12:59
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sethkfreemind, you mean geographically?12:59
piedoggiehost xp12:59
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ruokblahhey guys, quick question, does anyone know the user smb runs as?12:59
piedoggieneed to make xp file system accessable to ubuntu machines01:00
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ompaulpiedoggie, talk with vmware01:00
piedoggieneed to preserve ubuntu uid,gid, perms01:00
freemindsethk: yes, lol01:00
superkirbyartistGnOmEfReAk:  I do NoT understand.01:00
Crippy-Boypiedoggie, You can compile a kernel with NTFS support, but AFAIK its flaky01:00
sethkfreemind, I'm in New York.01:00
piedoggiethey have been ummm. hopeless01:00
freemindsethk: what could I mean else?01:00
ompaulsuperkirbyartist, drop it now - or you will not be here01:00
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ompaulguess I was a bit late01:00
zebedeeGood evening all. Quick question... what do you recommend for virus and adware removal on os 6.06??01:00
Crippy-Boypiedoggie, oh sorry, i didnt realise it was to do with vmware01:00
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ompaulzebedee, nothing we don;t have that01:01
croppaI have a motherboard with a Realteck PHY RTL8201CL network card which Ubuntu doesnt pick up. has anyone else had this problem and how do I fix?01:01
wasabi_ruokblah: Whatcha mean? smbd itself runs as root, but forks for each user.01:01
piedoggieCrippy-Boy:  np01:01
gnomefreakzebedee: none if your not using it as a windows server01:01
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Crippy-Boyzebedee, You dont really need it but its good if you email windows users regulaly to ensure you dont pass anything on01:01
shearuokblah, i don't know about ubuntu in particular.  i would assume whatever you set, but on most systems, it runs as root or similar.01:01
superkirbyartistCan you people help me instead of explaining me how to use the keyboard ?!01:01
sureshotcroppa hey man i no offense but is it turned on in cmos01:01
jribzebedee: welcome to linux, support for windows viruses and adware is currently not implemented!01:01
sheathe daemon anyway, i assume thats what you meant.01:01
ompaulsuperkirbyartist, I told you how you might fix it01:01
piedoggieI've tried the vmware file tol (loses ownership + perms)01:01
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mshiltonjCan someone please help me find a way to recover from an X memory leaking w/o rebooting? I had the leak for sometime, but the only evidence I can find pointing to something specific is xrestop: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25929/01:02
ruokblahwasabi_: basicly i want to smb in to /var/www i have it working so that only local machines to my network can use smb on the server but for some reason i cant get write permsion from smb in /var/www01:02
mshiltonjHow do I get that 1500k back??01:02
ompaulsuperkirbyartist, however you insisted on arguing the point01:02
UKMattwait, so that I have this straight and don't ruin my partition, I let the Live CD boot up (drapper), run the Install Icon, and everything?  that won't damage anything as long as I don't format?01:02
superkirbyartistompaul: I did not read it: PM me.01:02
ompaul!logs > superkirbyartist01:02
piedoggietrying samba but has the same prob01:02
shearuokblah, you specify a user and group in the mount options01:02
ruokblahwasabi_: i have tried everything i can think of changing owner ship changing group chmod -R 777 everything01:02
eraccHeh, I love the Introduction in Rute:01:02
eracc1. Introduction01:02
eraccWhereas books shelved beside this one will get your feet wet, this one lets you actually paddle for a bit, then thrusts your head underwater while feeding you oxygen.01:02
zebedeecool thanks everyone :-)01:02
wasabi_ruokblah: You need to make local users, and grant them access to the server, and establish either NT hashes or kerberos keys for them.01:02
gnomefreakUKMatt: made no sense you have to format the partition you are installing ubuntu on01:02
wasabi_ruokblah: Are you using AD?01:02
ompaulsuperkirbyartist, remove the printer from the "printers" in system administration printers, power it off, power off the ubuntu machine, power onthe printer, and then the ubuntu machine, now install the printer and it may be okay01:02
kitchemshiltonj: do you use firefox?01:03
wasabi_ruokblah: Or just plain two windows machines?01:03
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piedoggieblech.  network file systems haven't improved much over the past 20 years01:03
gnomefreak*may*01:03
wasabi_NFSv4 is fine.01:03
sethkUKMatt, that reinstalls.  if you are still talking about grub, then that isn't what you want to do.01:03
wasabi_Network file systems don't need to improve.01:03
sethkUKMatt, you want to reinstall only grub, which you do from the live cd command line.01:03
UKMattgnomefreak, no i mean for reinstalling grub alone01:03
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mshiltonjkitche: I do.01:03
freemindsethk: please take my pm01:03
piedoggiewasabi: can I get an ntfsv4 server for xp?01:03
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ruokblahwasabi_: i dont know what AD is and shea i think i did, and wasabi_ again, it is ubuntu server as smbServer and then a windows machine connects to it01:03
ompaul!grub > UKMatt01:03
sethkwasabi_, there are some unusual cases, but by and large that's true.01:03
wasabi_piedoggie: not likely.01:04
ompaulUKMatt, read the message from the bot01:04
UKMattompaul, i have that01:04
gnomefreakompaul: been there tried that01:04
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piedoggiethought so01:04
wasabi_ruokblah: You need to make a user for the windows user.01:04
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wasabi_ruokblah: and run smbpasswd to set it's password.01:04
kitchemshiltonj: that could be leaking memory as well01:04
wasabi_ruokblah: The usernames much match.01:04
sheaoh, sorry, i misunderstood.  the remote machine can't access the shared directory?01:04
ruokblahwasabi_: i have done that01:04
mshiltonjbut quitting ff doesn't free the memory.01:04
aboutblankso i'm trying to make an logical volume... "pvcreate /dev/hda3"... the answer literally alternates between "successfully created" and "failed to write physical volume". when i try to vgcreate, it says "no physical volume label read" and "not identified as an existing physical volume"01:04
croppagood sujestion sureshot but it works in $M01:04
wasabi_ok, restate the problem then01:04
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ompaulmshiltonj, it does, ubuntu (linux) do not treat ram as you might imagine - they reserve it run "free"01:05
kitchemshiltonj: correct firefox holds on to that memory even if you close it atleast from what I have seen try to turn off page cache that might help you to narrow your problem down01:05
ruokblahwasabi_: the problem is that from smb i can not get write persission at /var/www, that is the only directoy that does not work01:05
ompauljadams|uncomfort, don't change your nick in a channel with nearly 900 in it please if we all did it the channel would not be usable01:06
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superkirbyartistThe logs take forever to load on dialup :-(01:06
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wasabi_ruokblah: Does the user you made have write access?01:07
gnomefreakbrb01:07
ruokblahwasabi_: when i log in to the box from ssh i can mod the files in /var/www with out needing to sudo or change users01:07
wasabi_ruokblah: Other than setting read only = No in smb.conf, that's all you need to do01:07
sheawelp i have to go for a while.  good luck fellas01:07
mshiltonjompaul, kitche: I understand that linux sorta keeps memory after the app closes, but it will reallocate if needed. This leak keeps the memory and never lets it go until I reboot.01:07
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mshiltonjeven after restarting X, the memory is still kept locked up.01:08
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wasabi_mshiltonj: How do you know the memory is used?01:08
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ruokblahwasabi_: i had writable = yes should that be read only = no?01:09
wasabi_ruokblah: No, those are equivelent. I'd read the log files.01:09
mshiltonjwasabi_: because once I get up to 90+% memory used, even immediately after restarting X, starting any app after that starts hitting swap.01:09
ompaulsuperkirbyartist, if your printer is not working, go to your retailer and ask them why it does not work with Ubuntu, and I am not joking here01:09
mshiltonjafter rebooting, I don't have that problem.01:09
ruokblahwasabi_: ok i will dive in to the logs and then come back here if i cant get it still thanks man01:10
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Crippy-Boyompaul, and they'll say because we only support microsoft windows, it was on the box, screw you, go away01:10
ompaulmshiltonj, please paste the output of "free" someowhere01:10
mshiltonjThis is a slow leak. I have to reboot this machine once or twice a week.01:10
sureshotsuperkeibyartist or go out to lexmark wep site and look it up they may have linux drivers out there for that make and model01:10
wasabi_mshiltonj: Well, you're going to need to come back with a screenshot of the output of free or something.01:10
THX-1138[Remote closed the connection] 01:10
wasabi_mshiltonj: Or "top"01:10
ompaulCrippy-Boy, then you know not to buy from them01:10
mikehcan anyone help me with a problem with my newly installed ubuntu dapper deskotp01:10
superkirbyartistompaul: They will say "Well, here we have a copy of Windows XP Home for 200$".01:10
Crippy-Boyompaul, Yeah, but heh its no good when you already have01:11
Crippy-BoySpeaking of which, What is nvidia 7900 support like in ubuntu?01:11
superkirbyartistCrippy-Boy: It does not say "We do not support Linux".01:11
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mshiltonjompaul, wasabi_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25930/01:11
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pauliukasCan someone quickly help me with 'screen'? How to create a session? How to disconnect from it? And how to connect back to it?01:11
sureshotsuperkirbyartist or go out to lexmark wep site and look it up they may have linux drivers out there for that make and model01:12
ompaulsuperkirbyartist, this matter is not for further discussion here, #ubuntu-offtopic channel exists for that reason01:12
PacketScanpauliukas, man screen01:12
mshiltonjtop reports high mem usage, but no PID is hogging memory01:12
thomas_I cant' get any working drivers fior my ATi card01:12
superkirbyartistReally?  Send me there.01:12
pauliukasPacketScan: It's overwhelmed by information.01:12
Crippy-Boysuperkirbyartist, No but it probably doesnt say that it does either.01:12
pauliukasI know that the commands I need are quite specific.01:12
cntbmay I suggest that canon printers are better supported in linux01:12
squee__thomas: what is your problem so far?01:12
pauliukasAny Linux user knows them01:12
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PacketScanscreen --help01:12
Crippy-Boysuperkirbyartist, You cant pull them up on something they never claimed :-)01:12
thomas_the ATi drivers I downloaded don't work...  I get erros when I config them01:12
thomas_errors*01:13
thomas_So I have to use vesa01:13
ompaulcntb, you can, and so are hp 4050s :-) I have sevearl on my linux network in work01:13
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mcphailPacketScan: "screen" creates a session01:13
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squee__thomas_: wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide01:13
mcphailPacketScan: sorry - wrong nick01:13
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squee__thomas: I used that and it worked great01:13
PacketScanmcphail, tis ok i knew what you ment :p01:13
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sethkthe way to avoid printer headaches is to use postscript printers.01:13
apecatwii thomas_01:14
ompauland a few big epson dot matrix boxes01:14
mcphailpauliukas: 01:14
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apecataargh01:14
thomas_wii?01:14
PacketScanscreen starts a session screen -list shows a list of sessions open.01:14
wasabi_mshiltonj: Try the output of top.01:14
apecatthomas_: /wii is the command for whois whois in irssi01:14
wasabi_mshiltonj: Find the leak.01:14
apecata doublewhois that is01:14
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apecat..and i forgot thr /01:14
sureshotsuperkeibyartist what is the model01:15
jpcaron!w3201:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about w32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:15
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:15
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thomas_Be right back, I just installed KDE and need to boot into it01:15
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peace-keeperhi where i go look if i want write access to ntfs partitions ?01:15
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Crippy-Boypeace-keeper, AFAIK you have to compile the kernel with ntfs support, but its flaky (atleast last time i tried it)01:16
ompaul!fuse01:16
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse01:16
sureshothey all just jumped out to the lexmark site linux or unix is not mentioned in any of there supported os lists01:16
peace-keeperhmm okay doesnt sound good01:16
mshiltonjwasab_: top, sorted by memory: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25932/01:16
squee__sureshot: it rarely is01:17
ompaulpeace-keeper, that means if it dies you have been warned01:17
mshiltonjwasabi_: see my previous comment.01:17
sureshotjust thought i would say01:17
Crippy-BoyIt'd be nice to be able to boycott hardware companies01:17
gnomefreakompaul: did you send mr lexmark to -offtopic?01:17
guilhermeepeace-keeper, or find about ntfs3g (not 100% safe)01:17
ompaulI did01:17
silvertip257crippy-boy i sent u a pm01:17
ompaulis he there01:17
wasabi_mshiltonj: Okay? Don't see anything wrong.01:17
mcphailompaul: yes01:17
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mshiltonjwasabi_:  I'd love to find the leak. That's the problem.01:17
gnomefreakyeah :(01:17
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mshiltonjwasabi_: top looks good, right. Aside from not knowing what's leaving me with only ~7MB of free memory.01:18
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wasabi_130MB actually.01:18
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wasabi_Notice "cached"01:19
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ompaulmister_roboto, what is with the changes?01:19
wasabi_Here's the thing. Linux will ALWAYS use all of your memory, except just a few MB.01:19
wasabi_It does this because there's no reason not to.01:19
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wasabi_It will cache as much disk content as possible.01:19
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mister_robotoompaul: sorry about that. was having trouble changing my name in konversation :)   kept going to the alternate01:19
wasabi_Except a small ~10MB space so it can allocate new memory fast.01:20
Olofhello, im using ubuntu from the CD now. if i press places then computer i can see all my old windows harddrives (NTFS), but i cant open them. it says unable to mount.01:20
cowbudwhen I load up X and look in the log I see the following: I810(0): Option "RenderAccel" is not used although I have RenderAccel set to true is it not using renderaccel then?01:20
ompaulmister_roboto, k01:20
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vltHello. I have installed ubuntu Dapper and try to activate my notebook's wifi card. It's a Broadcom 4311 Chip so I did `modprobe bcm43xx` but when I run `iwconfig` no wireless extensions are found. What should I do?01:20
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wasabi_And, depending on your swappyness setting (located in /proc), it will actually favor cache for swapping a process out, depending on work load.01:20
SkramX6.06 finally installed :)01:20
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duckdownDoes anyone know of an FTP client (preferably console) that can edit a text file on a remote server01:20
superkirbyartistWhy don't you Canonical people follow your Ubuntu policy?01:21
BenjaminGOlof, create a file called /mnt/harddisk01:21
duckdowni guess essentially would automate the downloading, editing, and overwriting01:21
squee__vlt: you have to set up ndiswrapper and use the windows inf driver to make it work (unless it has recently changed)01:21
mister_robotoduckdown: you can do that with ssh01:21
gnomefreaksuperkirbyartist: you need to read the coc and the guidelines01:21
mshiltonjwasabi_: hmmm. that really helps. thanks. maybe I can configure my way back to better performance.01:21
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gnomefreaksuperkirbyartist: you dont read them we cant help you.01:21
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squee__!ndiswrapper01:21
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:21
duckdownmister_roboto> ssh?  but i can only ftp01:21
willys_fueguinohi I need to know who to talk to register an "ubuntu" domain...01:21
rednaxelmy winXP partition is not booting anymore (after a power failure)... even tried a "recovery console", but it does a BSOD (complaining about ntfs.sys)... any hint? the (Ubuntu) Linux partition is working fine01:21
vltsquee__: Thank you.01:21
squee__vlt: your welcome01:21
superkirbyartist"Full professional support" doesn't mean "people who treat you like crap".01:21
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superkirbyartistAnd who block you from IRC.01:21
mister_robotoduckdown: sorry to hear that :)    you don't have the option of running ssh on the server?01:22
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gnomefreaksuperkirbyartist: we dont have to help you01:22
sethksuperkirbyartist, full professional support also does not mean free01:22
gnomefreakwe are not paid to help you01:22
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duckdownmister_roboto> hehe not sure, it's my XBOX to be honest :p01:22
superkirbyartistBut if the CD says it comes with support then it comes with support.  And there are Canonical guys who support the channel.01:22
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superkirbyartistAnd they get paid.01:22
gnomefreak!coc > superkirbyartist01:22
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gnomefreak!rules >  superkirbyartist01:22
zebedeeall ways been of help to me01:23
gnomefreakabr superkirbyartist01:23
willys_fueguinosuperkirbyartist, like who??01:23
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mister_robotoduckdown: aha.  well good luck with that ftp editing. certainly not part of the ftp protocol01:23
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willys_fueguinognomefreak, are you from canonical??01:23
Crippy-Boyanother person that doesnt understand the concept of 'commercial support'01:23
gnomefreakwillys_fueguino: no01:23
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willys_fueguinohi I need to know who to talk to register an "ubuntu" domain...01:24
wasabi_mshiltonj: What you can do is explore each process, not just by RES memory, and see what ones have the most memory.01:24
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wasabi_mshiltonj: Because of shared memory and stuff, it's very hard in modern OS' to give a "memory count" for any given program.01:24
kitchewills_fueguino: you will probably have to e-mail canonical about it01:24
Brydenn33need some help getting a program running guys. i keep getting this error "configure: error: Cannot find glib2/gtk2/pango"01:24
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sethkBrydenn33, you are installing from source and you don't have the pango library installed01:25
sethkBrydenn33, search in synaptic for packages with pango and dev in the name01:25
Crippy-BoyTHX-1138, no need, he/she/it is banned01:25
Brydenn33well i actually have Kubuntu hehe01:25
mister_robotoduckdown: you could always ftp the file to your local box, edit it,then ftp it back to the server01:25
jribwillys_fueguino: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/TrademarkPolicy/01:25
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duckdownmister_roboto> yeah, thats the process i'm tired of doing though, especially when i'm trying to constantly make changes to files on the fly01:25
johannariclear01:25
andy80_hi01:26
willys_fueguinojrib, Thanxx...01:26
CromagDKmy Nautilus just went down, is it possible to get it back up ?01:26
txoofHow does anacron decide who to mail and with what method? I can't seem to find anything in /etc.01:26
mister_robotoduckdown: well... keep the local one then you only have to ftp TO the server   :)01:26
andy80_upgrading from dapper to edgy fails: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25933/01:26
willys_fueguinoI already read it...01:26
andy80_lot of Gnome packages have problems01:26
rancei need some help with a usb image scanner install, its a Cannon N670U which IS supported by the plustek sane backend and IS loaded by the /etc/sane.d/dll.conf file, problem is that sane-find-scanner cant find the scanner, even though /var/log/messages shows the scanner being connected, can someone give me a hand?01:26
jribwillys_fueguino: you need to email them01:26
mister_robotoduckdown: i take it you don't have telnet either, eh?01:26
CromagDK!nautilus01:26
freemindtxoof: sendmail, look into /etc/aliases01:26
ubotunautilus: file manager and graphical shell for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 838 kB, installed size 2620 kB01:26
mister_robotoduckdown: never played with an xbox01:26
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cgarr04\Ubuntuhey01:27
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willys_fueguinojrib, is just that I need a fast answer... And I dont lose nothing asking here :-01:27
squee__duckdown: what are you doing on the xbox that you need to constantly make changes with?01:27
jribwillys_fueguino: oh, ok.  Canonical employees usually don't hang around here though01:27
willys_fueguinoxDD01:27
duckdownsquee__> the .xml configuration files01:28
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Brydenn33sethk: what is the actual name of the file? cuz all i see is libpango1-ruby, libpango1.0-0, libpango1.0-dev, etc01:28
duckdowni'm adding shares, sources, etc all the time01:28
squee__duckdown: are you running the media center part or just linux?01:28
sethkBrydenn33, you need the library, and you want the package with "dev" in it because you also need header files01:28
gnomefreakcanonical employees dont hang out on IRC on weekends either ;)01:28
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gnomefreakrare few do01:29
SeanTateris libsdl1.2debian-alsa necessary for ubuntu (I have to remove to install another program)01:29
freemindsethk: please see pm01:29
sethkBrydenn33, probably the one without a number is for gtk2.01:29
cntb!rules >cntb01:29
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duckdownmedia center01:29
THX-1138gnomefreak - saturday/sunday morning we could really use one.01:29
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Brydenn33sethk: ok. yah i'm just trying to get Audacious to run hehe01:30
squee__duckdown: I can't really see much of a reason to do all the changes through the xml files... I use the dashboard on the program01:30
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squee__duckdown: Though it still should be possible to use ssh01:31
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cgarr04\UbuntuHow can I 'stream' mp3 files from a server on my network?01:31
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cgarr04\UbuntuFor them to play I must copy them locally to play them via VLC media player.01:31
mcphailcgarr04\Ubuntu: use gnump3d01:31
Jehjoagood evening all :)01:32
THX-1138cgarr04\Ubuntu: VLC is a possibility01:32
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squee__!avahi01:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about avahi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:32
squee__!avahi-daemon01:32
ubotuavahi-daemon: Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD daemon. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.10-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 66 kB, installed size 308 kB01:32
cgarr04\UbuntuOkay, thanks.01:32
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squee__!avahi-utils01:32
ubotuavahi-utils: Avahi browsing, publishing and discovery utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.10-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 32 kB, installed size 140 kB01:32
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squee__avahi is needed for vlc to sream01:32
THX-1138squee__ - cool, didn't know that.01:33
sureshotgnomefreak thanks and i read it01:33
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siloePlease dont sucess install http://rtext.sourceforge.net/    Helping!?!01:35
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sethksiloe, what problem are you having?01:36
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ruokblahwasabi_: thanks for the log idea, turns out  that i had a printer in there that was erroring and that one below the printer, i removed the errored printer and poof it works01:38
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aboutblankis it even possible to have one partition on a physical disk be part of an LVM based LV??01:38
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wasabi_ruokblah: Heh.01:39
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sethkaboutblank, the only thing that can be part of it is a physical disk, no?01:39
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aboutblank... what01:39
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aboutblanki'm trying to make a spanned LV...01:40
sethkaboutblank, yes, and?01:40
ClarrisaI have a website that is supposed to be only using SSL / http.  But when I try it with http I get a directory listing in my browser though.  what did I do wrong?01:40
aboutblankand i'm trying to add one partition on a physical disk to this spanned LV... so i do "pvcreate /dev/hda3"01:40
ClarrisaI hope that made sense01:41
sethkaboutblank, right01:41
freemindalright01:41
Born_In_XixaxClarissa, are you sure the URL shown in your browser hasn't switched to HTTPS?01:41
aboutblanksethk, so when i do that from the livecd, it tells me "failed to write physical volume "/dev/hda3"01:41
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Clarrisaeverything works right if I try the website with https:  but obviously I don't want the http to display anything01:41
sureshotwell all goodbye for now my wife wants to take to a mexican restrount so i am off for supper  (fehitas) hmmmmm01:42
mcphailClarrisa: you need to remove the "listen 80" line from /etc/apache2/ports.conf and restart apache01:42
sethkaboutblank, ok, but that doesn't tell us what the error is, only that the command failed.  If you are asking whether it failed because /dev/hda3 is a partition on a physical disk, the answer is, no, your command is correct01:42
THX-1138TC sureshot see ya soon.01:42
sethkaboutblank, it didn't fail because a partition is not allowed there; in fact, a partition is most commonly what you use.01:42
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Clarrisamcphail, ohhh... no, I didn't.  but the problem is, that I have another website that I want to be able to get to via port 80... can't I do both?01:43
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sethkaboutblank, that's all it says?  no more information about why it failed?01:43
aboutblanksethk, that's all it says.01:43
sureshotTHX-1138 see ya my friend and my friends01:43
Clarrisampchail, it's in a different virtual directory01:43
aboutblanksethk, actually, it ALTERNATES between that message and "physical volume /dev/hda3 successfully created"01:43
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aboutblanksethk, but i still cannot add it to a LV01:43
mcphailClarrisa: yes. You should have a config for "VirtualHost *:443" and not "VirtualHost *:80"01:44
aboutblanksethk, vgcreate says "No physical volume label read from /dev/hda3 \n /dev/hda3 not identified as an existing physical volume"01:44
andyhi, I have 2 hard drives, a windows one, and a linux one.  Is there a way to access the files on my windows hardrive from Ubuntu?  It shows up in "computer" but gives the error "unable to mount..." when I click on it01:44
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sethkaboutblank, something is clearly wrong, but unfortunately I don't know what.01:45
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sethkaboutblank, I believe there is a verbose option you can use on that command to perhaps get more information.01:45
sethkaboutblank, try it with -v01:45
Clarrisamcphail, I did that as well... each site has it's own and the conf files are all stored in /etc/apache2/sites-available/<websitename>01:45
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Clarrisamcphail, the ssl one have the *:443 in it01:46
Clarrisahas01:46
Dr_willisandy,  double check the fstab entry for the windows drives. Hers a url that details what it should/can look like. Most likely you need to use the 'user' and umask=0222 (or similer options.01:46
Dr_willisDefacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume01:46
aboutblanksethk, verbose says nothing interesting to say the most.01:46
andywhere is the "fstab"?01:47
sethkaboutblank, I don't have any good suggestions at the moment, unfortunately.01:47
aboutblanksethk, alright.. thanks for the help.01:47
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Dr_willisandy,  in /etc/ with 99% of the other config files. :)01:47
sethkaboutblank, in your situation I would probably strace the command and try to get an idea of what is going on, but the strace output is very difficult to interpret01:47
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andyok, one sec01:48
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Born_In_XixaxAndy: please check the HowTo area of the Ubuntu forums: ubuntuforums.org01:48
Born_In_Xixaxthere are some tutorials on configuring NTFS access01:48
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lealhello all01:50
zebedeehi01:51
SuperMiguelhow can i use blitz01:51
the_emptyI have a Dell Latitude running Breezy and it seems if I close the screen (*triggering gnome-screensaver to lock) the display never wakes back up01:51
SuperMiguelon ubuntu01:51
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Dr_willisSuperMiguel,  what is blitz?01:51
the_emptyIs this a known issue?01:51
SuperMiguelDr_willis: programing language01:51
Dr_willisthe_empty,  i would advise upgrading to dapper. It may work much better01:51
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the_emptyDr_willis: sorry I meant dapper01:51
Dr_willisSuperMiguel,  check the blitz homepage then.. see what os's it supports.. and if you can copile it from source..01:51
leali have a LG dvd player (4230N), avidemux, k3b, dvdstyler, cdrdao and some files (avi)...01:52
Dr_willisthe_empty,  :P  Theres some issues with suspending, and some of the video drivers.. sadly.01:52
sethkthe_empty, there are a number of problems of this sort related to power management.  It's not unusual to get this problem on a laptop.01:52
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sethkthe_empty, or a desktop, for that matter, if the power save features are enabled.01:52
lealwhere can i find a "real" how to to make a dvd?01:52
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the_emptyDr_willis, sethk: I dig, but I want to know if theres some workaround01:52
Dr_willisthe_empty,  hopefully the next release with newer kernel and video card drivers will fix a lot of them01:53
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the_emptyDr_willis: Gah, OK01:53
matteoI'm trying to share a printer with cups, but I'm getting a network host busy error. Any ideas?01:53
sethkthe_empty, I don't have any magic for it.  updating to the most recent kernel may help, but no guarantees01:54
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Dr_willisthe_empty,  blame the laptop makers for not following the standards I guess...01:54
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the_emptysethk:, Dr_willis: OK... I know ACPI is totally screwed01:55
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YouCeyEhello.. i have a brother laser printer.. when i connect it to usb.. it says belkin components01:55
YouCeyEusb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice01:55
the_emptyOh nice01:55
YouCeyE[17205380.636000]  drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 4 if 0 alt 1 proto 2 vid 0x050D pid 0x000201:55
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the_emptyI just killed gnome-screensaver and it came back to life01:56
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_Falcaumalguem fala portugues!?01:56
lunaticLThi.. why is 127.0.1.1 IP needed for local hostname in /etc/hosts in Dapper? It breaks my previous apache configuration. Can I change it to 127.0.0.1?01:56
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ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.01:56
DraconicusHow the heck do you burn a .bin format CD image?01:57
_Falcaumvlw01:57
lunaticLTDraconicus> k3b?01:57
sethklunaticLT, it should be 127.0.0.1    where did 127.0.1.1 come from?01:57
LjLDraconicus: you could convert it to ISO perhaps. there's a package for that, don't remember what it's called01:57
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PacketScanDraconicus, do you have the cue ?01:57
the_emptyOK close enough to a solution I guess01:57
Dr_willisk3b can do it.. but ya got to figure out how. :P01:57
lunaticLTsethk> I dunno01:57
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the_emptylater all thanks for the help01:57
DraconicusPacketScan: Yes. K3B says the operation isn't permitted, though.01:57
DraconicusThe output isn't very clear.01:57
zenitDraconicus: you might be lucky, sometimes a .bin is just like a plain iso-image01:57
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sethklunaticLT, change it to 127.0.0.1, I can't imagine it causing a problem.  make sure 127.0.1.1 does not occur in any files in /etc01:58
PacketScanconvert to iso like LjL  suggested.. should provide a work around.01:58
LjLDraconicus: "bchunk" is the package01:58
lunaticLTsethk> hmm.... okay... I was just curious why was it needed. Thanks.01:58
PacketScanunless the cue file is written wrong/ contains incorrect path.01:58
DraconicusI'm actually on Gentoo. I use Ubuntu frequently and the channel was open, so I thought I'd ask here. I'll see if Gentoo has bchunk. It should.01:58
PacketScanfix the path then try.01:58
sethklunaticLT, you need to be able to resolve the name localhost01:58
LjLDraconicus: ah, also, "cdrdao" can burn from bin/cue01:59
DraconicusGot all of that.01:59
DraconicusK3B uses that.01:59
DraconicusThe path has ( ) in it. That may be why.01:59
lunaticLTsethk> it's not for localhost, it's listed for computers hostname01:59
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lunaticLTsethk> localhost resolves to 0.101:59
kitchelunaticLT: anything 127.x.x.x resolves to localhost anyways in reality02:00
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lunaticLTkitche> yes, but I can't connect to my apache because it says deny all, allow 127.0.0.1 ;-)02:01
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Muellihi. I just updated to edgy and I wonder where the aiglx with compiz is. isn't that shipped out w/ edgy?02:01
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DraconicusPacketScan: Oh. Now I see what you meant. Lemme check that path.02:02
kitcheMuelli: you probably have to install compiz but yes aiglx is part of it you might have to enable it though but #ubuntu+1 is the channelt hat you want02:02
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matteoHallo, I set up a printserver with cups, but I can't print to it. it's set to broadcast published printers, this works and they are automatically found and set by the client. Help!02:02
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vega_im trying to install WINE but cant find it in synaptic package manager, any help?02:03
aboutblankwhere can i get more support for LVM?02:03
LjL!info wine02:03
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB02:03
LjLvega_: i suppose you don't have Universe enabled02:03
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ubotuPackage lvm does not exist in any distro I know02:04
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aboutblank!info LVM202:04
ubotulvm2: The Linux Logical Volume Manager. In component main, is standard. Version 2.02.02-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 272 kB, installed size 800 kB02:04
sethkmatteo, what happens when you try to print?02:04
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matteosethk: nothing no jobs appear on client but printer appears in notification area, when i chek printer status I get a network host busy message.02:06
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Muellithx kitche. I'll have a look02:08
aboutblankdoes anyone actually ever use LVM? do you format the partition before you add it to an LV?02:08
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sethkmatteo, can you print locally (that is, on the machine where the cups server is installed)?02:08
peace-keeperwhat linux command i use for binary file compare ?02:08
aboutblankpeace-keeper, you can md5sum them02:09
peace-keeperah good idea02:09
peace-keeperthx02:09
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Draconicusbrb02:09
matteosethk: local printing is working, also when I check error.log and access.log there's nothing recognisably useful.02:09
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sethkmatteo, are the client machines running linux?02:10
andyI just installed ntfs-3g and now my CD-RW wont mount, how can I fix this?02:10
vega_hm... still no WINE02:11
vega_even though i enabled all repositories02:11
matteosethk: both machines are ubuntu dapper02:11
vega_there are a lot of packages that are related to WINE02:11
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vega_but not quite02:11
sethkmatteo, what happens if you run lpq on thec lient?02:12
kitchevega_: wine has it's own repo02:12
matteovega_: on wine-hq they give repositories to add uptodate wine to ubuntu02:12
vega_whats wine-hq?02:12
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THX-1138#winehq02:12
vega_on this server?02:12
kitchevega_: wine's website02:12
THX-1138yes02:12
matteosethK: I get aHPpsc1350 is ready and a second line with no entries02:13
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andy I just installed ntfs-3g and now my CD-RW wont mount, how can I fix this?02:13
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THX-1138vega_: Be nice to vitamin the only one there that knows WINE like a religion02:14
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aboutblankwhen trying to make an LV in LVM, vgcreate says "adding physical volume /dev/hda3 to volume group...no physical volume label...not identified as a physical volume... unable to add physical volume /dev/hda3" --- Why does it think hda3 is a physical volume?!02:14
vega_haha thanks02:14
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andy I just installed ntfs-3g and now my CD-RW wont mount, how can I fix this?02:14
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kitcheaboutblank: it's not it's saying it's not a physical volume02:15
GarbaekCould someone help me build a script that restarts a process when it crashes ?02:15
aboutblankkitche: really now. because it said it 3 times..02:15
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kitcheaboutblank: LVM is usually one disk but has slices inside of the LVM02:16
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andycan anyone help me?02:16
sethkGarbaek, there are tools available that will do that better than a script you can write02:17
THX-1138Garbaek - the linux documentation project bash scripting guide is indispensable.02:17
Dr_willisandy,  try mounting it manually ?02:17
sethkGarbaek, look at the daemontools package.  look at the respawn option of inittab02:17
andyhow?02:17
aboutblankkitche: o..kay... i'm trying to put together a spanned LV with /dev/hdb1 and /dev/hda3.. i pvcreated both, and i cannot do "vgcreate the_volume /dev/hda3 /dev/hdb1"02:17
Dr_willisandy,  you may want to research how linux mounts drives.. befor messing with the deeper things like ntfs-3g.02:17
THX-1138sethk - likely knows a lot better than either yoiu or i.02:17
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andyit is a little late now...02:18
Dr_willisandy,  in short..  sudo mount /media/cdrom0  (or whatever its called)02:18
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Dr_willisandy,  its never too late to learn02:18
BannaMamahi02:18
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andyI know, just I already installed ntfs-3g02:18
Butmifjdsif?02:18
BannaMama?02:18
GFkgod?02:18
GFkeoffff?02:18
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Dr_willisandy,  i dont see how that sould be affecting the cdrom drive at all to be honest.. so you need to trouble shoot whats going on02:19
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Ash-Fox!ati02:19
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:19
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vega_hm... i went to winehq and did what it says, but now synaptic gives me an error02:19
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vega_the error is "E: Type 'http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt' is not known on line 33 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list02:20
sethkTHX-1138, what?  I'm not sure what you were talking about a moment ago.02:20
andywell, I installed ntfs-3g and then went to check if I could use my windows HDD and noticed that my CDRW no longer worked02:20
Garbaeksethk > thanks.. ill look it up02:20
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matteovega_: what is the exact entry you inserted in /etc/apt/sources.list02:21
kitchevega_: do you have deb http://wine.budgededicated.com/apt <last part>02:21
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vega_yes i have the whole line, not just the piece it showed in the error02:21
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vega_with deb at the front and dapper main at the end02:21
andyI tried mounting it manually, but I got this: mount: can't find /media/cdrom1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab02:22
Crippy-Boy:-)02:22
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THX-1138~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~sethk - scripting something as a service02:22
fluxinatorchmod 750 /usr/bin/rcp >> would this help improve security02:22
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sethkTHX-1138, ok, I must have lost the thread of the conversation.  :)02:23
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Celestehi02:23
thejoeCan someone tell me what is wrong in my simple shell script: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/WqyVOQ48.html02:23
fluxinator>><<02:23
sethkfluxinator, not in any meaningful way, no02:23
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LjLthejoe: if ("$answer" = "y")   should perhaps be     if [ "$answer" == "y" ] 02:24
vega_is AMD64 i386 architecture?02:24
thejoeLjL: I tried that as well, but it didn't work02:24
sethkLjL, no, I don't think so.  the [ ]  are for the test syntax02:24
LjLvega_: no. but it emulates the i386 architecture, so you can install the i386 Ubuntu on an AMD64 processor02:24
sethkthejoe, what is it doing?02:24
matteovega: WINE doesn't work properly with amd64 at the moment02:25
fluxinatorsethk what could I do to this system to help lock it down further besides  running bastille02:25
vega_well shit lol02:25
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vega_thats the problem02:25
sethkfluxinator, use scp instead of rcp02:25
fluxinatorI dont use rcp at all afail02:25
vega_im on AMD64 with ubuntu 6402:25
kitche!language02:25
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ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:25
andyDr_willis: Is there a way to return everything to how it was before I installed ntfs-3g02:25
LjLsethk, all i know is that using () gives a syntax error.02:25
vega_sorry ^.^02:25
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LjLvega_: that's fine, except that on AMD64 you lack some things that exist for i386... like some video codecs, perhaps Flash...02:26
kitchethejoe: but what's does the script do exactly? when you run it like it doesn't read the answer?02:26
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matteo<vega_>you could try setting up a chroot for 32bit apps02:26
thejoesethk: This is what I get: /home/malignant/Scripts/Master: line 7: [y: command not found02:26
sethkthejoe, take out the parens, to start with, you don't need them02:26
aftertafwhats with lilo in the topic?02:26
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Axeconfigure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check02:27
AxeSee `config.log' for more details.02:27
sethkthejoe, take out the quotes around $answer02:27
kitcheaftertaf: lilo is the guy that ran freenode02:27
Gabby_Hayesvega-  .. did you d/l it, or from a disk?02:27
AxeAttempts to build things have this error02:27
thejoesethk: ok02:27
LjLsethk: as in    if  "test" == "test" ; then echo Yes; fi    ?02:27
Axehow do I fix this02:27
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jribthejoe: you need a space after [ and before ]  like ljl pasted02:27
kitchealso he owned it aftertaf02:27
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LjLjrib: except that it seems that i got it all wrong...02:27
erickhello room, can someone help me with wine?02:27
sethkLjL, I'm wrong about [] 02:27
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aftertafkitche: ahhhhhhh ok. (getss the rest)02:27
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sethkthejoe, here is an if statement that works:              if [[ ARGC != 1 ] ] 02:28
mcscruffanyone know an app where i can backup a whole partition (like ghost)02:28
thejoesethk: it still doesn't work02:28
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sethkthejoe, or,   if [[ $silen == "FALSE" ] ] 02:28
kitchemcscruff: partimage02:28
loper06question: in smb.conf how can i limit only one user to be logged in using the same login. i want to avoid 2 users w/ the same username to be logged in at the same time using sshd02:28
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sethkthejoe, or,   if [[ $silen == "FALSE" ] ] 02:28
mcscruffkitche, ty02:28
sethkthejoe, so use:    if [[ $answer == "y" ] ] 02:29
thejoesethk: I still get: /home/malignant/Scripts/Master: line 7: y: command not found02:29
thejoeDidn't connect02:29
THX-1138mcscruff - partimage (it is a seperat step to back the mbr)02:29
sethkthejoe, wait until I tell you what to do02:29
thejoesethk: ok02:29
sethkthejoe, you can't try what I'm suggesting until I'm finished suggesting it.  :)02:29
erickI installed star wars, jedi outcast using wine. I can start it up fine but when I try to play it complains about the cd not being in the drive but it is in the drive. :/02:29
Dr_willisloper06,  hmm.. what does smb.conf have to do with ssh?02:29
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sethkif  [[  $answer == "y" ] ] 02:29
akano1nhi, i need some help, im trying to config my wifi, i have a Compaq Presario v2000, and the problem is, i have a button in my keyboard that enables the wifi, but when i press it, nothin happens, stays off, anyone know why? i have installed ndiswrapper and all this kind os stuff02:29
sethkthen02:29
kitcheloper06: well sshd has nothing to do with samba02:29
Ash-FoxIs there not a single kernel I can use that isn't preempt?02:29
sethk    whatever02:29
loper06whoops02:29
Ash-FoxI really need preempt disabled02:29
LjLsethk: if [ "$answer" == "y" ]  works, as well. also, you do need the quotes, because otherwise, if $answer happens to be empty, you'll end up with a syntax error.02:29
agenthow do i temporarily disable bug reporting tool??02:30
mcscruffTHX-1138, its only to clone my winxp partition, pissed off at it fookin up, grub can have my mbr02:30
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loper06question: in sshd_config how can i limit only one user to be logged in using the same login. i want to avoid 2 users w/ the same username to be logged in at the same time using sshd02:30
sethkLjL, I just tried it, no syntax error for an empty variable ... hmm02:30
thejoesethk: if [[ $answer == "y" ] ]  worked, thanks02:30
sethkthejoe, np02:30
kitchemcscruff: the ntfs support is expermential in partimage02:30
thejoesethk: why do I need to brackets?02:30
thejoe*two02:30
mcscruffkitche, expermential but still working?02:30
Axeconfigure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check02:30
AxeSee `config.log' for more details.02:30
Axehow do I fix this02:31
sethkthejoe, because it doesn't work without them?  I have to look that up, to be honest with you.  I just looked at a bunch of scripts I wrote a few months ago.02:31
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kitchemcscruff: it works but it might kill the ntfs filesystem I don't use it on ntfs02:31
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erickis there anyone who can help me with wine?02:31
thejoesethk: ok02:31
sethkLjL, of course, I use zsh, which doesn't have the scripting bugs that bash has.02:31
LjLsethk: ljl@ljlbox:~$ if [ $answer == "test" ] ; then echo SI; fi     [newline]       bash: [: ==: unary operator expected02:31
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mcscruffkitche, i'll try :)02:31
LjLsethk: ah, well, but bash is the default shell in Ubuntu02:31
sethkLjL, bash error, I think02:31
sethkLjL, the quotes won't hurt anything, so I guess it makes sense to leave them in.02:32
LjLsethk: i'm not sure it's an error. variables are substitued literally in bash, so if a variable is empty, it will be substitued with emptiness02:32
agenthow do i temporarily disable bug reporting tool??02:32
THX-1138mcscruff - take a peek at "testdisk". - supposed to solve problems with disk errors - (haven't tried it.)02:32
sethkLjL, indeed, but "" is equally empty as02:32
sethkLjL, (couldn't find a way to say nothing, :) )02:32
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LjLsethk: but "" denotes an empty string. "simple" emptiness just denotes a syntax error, in that there is a "==" operator without a left operand02:33
sethkLjL, "" is a blank string, and $variable-with-no-value  is also a blank string02:33
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sethkLjL, it's an interpreter, so I guess you can't really blame it for getting confused.02:34
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erickcan anyone help me use wine?02:35
timalotwhats up02:35
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timalotwith wine?02:35
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erickwell I installed jedi outcast but everytime I try playing it complains about the cd not being in the drive02:35
erickit is in the drive though02:35
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LjLsethk: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/quotingvar.html ---- note how "COMMAND $variable2 $variable2 $variable2" executes COMMAND with *no* arguments. so those variables are *not* taken as empty strings, but just as... nothing02:36
erickjedi outcast starts, but wont let me play02:36
loper06how can i do this? enable only one connection per username in sshd to avoid users from doubling up on logins?02:36
lunaticLTgood night and thanks for help02:36
timaloterick: sorry not sure about that... u could always use a nocd02:36
sethkLjL, so, the docs have the same errora s the program.  :)02:36
ericktimalot: thanks a lot, do you know where I can find something like that?02:36
LjLsethk: ah, well, i suppose you could see it that way.02:36
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sethkLjl  :)02:37
thomboneodd, trying to upgrade my dapper to edgy fails02:37
mcscruffpartimage (from repo) doesnt support ntsc atall02:37
sethkthombone, why odd?02:37
thombonewell, it's a vanilla dapper02:37
thombonecurious to find out what's blocking the script... once I find out I'll report it of course02:38
holycow*mmmm* vaaaniiilllaaa *grrglghghg*02:38
sethkthombone, edgy is unreleased.  it's constantly being modified02:38
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thomboneOh I know02:38
sethkthombone, unreasonable to expect  it to always work.02:38
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thomboneI don't even get that far, the actual upgrade script is failing02:38
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thomboneso I'm curious02:38
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thomboneI don't expect it to work02:38
holycowthere is no such thing as an upgrade scirpt02:38
holycowwhere does apt stop?02:38
sethkthombone, in that case, I'm also curious  :)02:38
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Scunizimcscruff:  You might take a look at http://pba-vm.sourceforge.net/ .... Looks interesting.02:38
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thombonejust wondering aloud why it doesn't and was wondering if it's a common problem02:39
Tru7hGuys, I'm having trouble booting up Ubuntu on my old Dell. Is there any way I can put it on several floppy disks and boot from those?02:39
sethkholycow, what do you mean, there is no such thing?02:39
THX-1138erick - visit the wine channel here on freenode.org  #winehq02:39
thombonesethk: ok well once I figure it out I'll let you know02:39
sethkTru7h, it's not impossible, but it's not easy.02:39
holycownote: all dpkg does is look at the repo and upgrades to whatevre is newer, there isno upgrade script per se02:39
aftertafthombone: what script? what are you trying to use to update?02:39
BHSPitLappyTru7h, what's the problem?02:39
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Tru7hIt's a Dell 4100... I have two CD drives, and my master drive doesn't work properly.02:39
sethkholycow, well, semantics, I guess.  It generates a script, and then executes it.02:39
Tru7hPut simply.02:39
thomboneholycow: ok, thanks... I'll run it again and try to figure out where apt is dying then02:40
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thombonesethk: right that was my assumption as well02:40
sethkTru7h, are you trying to install it, or just trying to boot it after it is installed?02:40
holycowsethk, *nod* thombone if you can narrow it down we might be able to help02:40
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erickthanks a lot02:40
thomboneat any rate, I'll keep playing with it... would love to run edgy (been a gentoo freak for years for that reason and really am loving ubuntu now, but still like to live on the edge haha)02:41
mesuthi how do i force dpkg to install a .deb (without deps)02:41
a_phaexcuse-me I use weechat-curses to folow you but I'm blind and I can read more than one line at a time02:41
thombonesethk: thanks friend02:41
thombonepeace02:41
Axe_configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check02:41
Axe_See `config.log' for more details.02:41
Axe_how od I Fix this02:41
holycowthombone, edgy is very useable at this point in time, no big risk02:41
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aftertafi agree holycow02:41
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Tru7hsethk: I'm trying to install for the first time.02:42
holycowtypically if your dist-upgrade fails you just haveto wait a few days for repos to be udpated and it goes away02:42
THX-1138a_pha Welcome02:42
sethkAxe_, the compiler is installed?    you've installed the build-essential package?02:42
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timalotmesut: from a deb file? ... then its dpkg-deb i think02:42
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thomboneholycow: my basic motivation is I want to play with the latest GCC and compile against cutting edge libc, etc. without running gentoo (gentoo has become quite a mess lately)02:43
mesuttimalot: coultn find anything on both man dpkg and man dpkg-deb02:43
sethkTru7h, that's more difficult.  too bad.02:43
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timalotmesut: do u just want to extract the files or actually install the pacakge?02:43
holycowthombone, *nod* haven't looked at gentoo in ages ... care to elaborate?02:44
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a_phado you know if the next ubuntu cd will be usable with braille display to install02:44
holycowi'm just curious, not looking for a flamewar btw :)02:44
loper06anyone? how can i avoid 2 or more users w/ the same username from looging in at the same time from sshd?02:44
gleesondhow do I change back to gdm? from xdm02:44
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thomboneholycow: sure, basically gentoo dev teams are infighting to the point where ebuild quality control is going way down02:44
thomboneholycow: lots of politics about where they want the distro to go, nobody can agree02:45
sethkgleesond, easiest way is probably to force a reinstall of gdm02:45
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loper06i just want to permit only one instance per user using ssh02:45
holycowthombone, weird, gentoo seemed very cool in that regard actually despite the fact it takes a week to install it02:45
ciphernemoAnyone here install mythtv on ubuntu? The #mythtv-users community sucks and is pretty much unhelpful. I just need some straightforward help in building mythtv and configuring it with mysql, then I can pick up from there.02:45
holycow:)02:45
mesut--force02:45
mesut--force-depends* found it timalot02:45
thomboneholycow: it basically started over the gentoo livecd and easy install versions. some of the more hardcore think it's sacralidge ;)02:45
timalotmesut: cool02:45
sethkthombone, that's too bad.  I'm not a gentoo fan, but I hate to see people wasting effort that way.02:45
holycowthombone, i was always awe of their devs and help files but i never understood why anyone would create gentoo02:46
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holycowwhen all you had to do is take debian to create the same thing with like 2 guys02:46
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THX-1138a_pha - This release breezy badger has assistive technology support.  edgy should be no exception.02:46
holycowand get the benefits of both approaches02:46
holycowthombone, they'll figure it eventually, all projects have their ebb and flow, debian has always been a rocky boat :)02:47
Axe_configure: error: You must have the XTest library to build synergy02:47
Axe_grr02:47
a_phaTHX-1138: yes but in the live cd there wasn't orca or gnopernicus install.02:47
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edgarinHi02:48
THX-1138a_pha Ubuntu is an african word for humanity. I thonk mark shuttleworth would like open source software available to everyone.02:48
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thombonesethk: agreed, gentoo had it's upsides (and it's down, of course... who wants to compile software 24 hours a day) but if you wanted to be right on the very edge (which is sometimes important for a dev as you can well imagine) it's a great way to go for some. Not better or worse then debian-based (ubuntu et al) of course, just a different angle on Linux. But unfortunately, making a gentoo box even remotely stable nowadays, even sti02:48
thombonecking with "stable" ebuilds is almost impossible, it seems. That's why when I heard about Edgy I've been trying to play with it.02:48
SkramXwhat is the package i need to apt-get for all the compiling tools?02:48
SkramXit was like build-essentials? no.02:48
ozzloyi just put 6.06.1 in a computer and it came up with vertical lines02:49
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Tru7hHow could I mount Ubuntu to a flash drive?02:49
ozzloyhow do i fix that?02:49
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thombonesethk: my gal is an easier way to live on the edge, and I also have to say I'm in love with Ubuntu in general. It's really something special02:49
Tru7hAnd would that work for a Dell Dimension 4100?02:49
thomboneseth my goal* rather, sorry02:49
Axe_argh02:49
Axe_I can't find xtest anywhere02:49
holycowthombone, i would generalize that and say debian is something special, and ubuntu is just a special case of special02:50
holycow*cough*02:50
sethkthombone, I'm quite pleased with it, and I've used a fair number of distros.02:50
holycow:)02:50
aftertafSkramX: yeah02:50
THX-1138a_pha I don't know. - if you can use apt-get or better the package manager sysnaptic it will be available. - free-dom open source software.02:50
aftertaf!info build-essentials02:50
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ubotuPackage build-essentials does not exist in any distro I know02:50
siloeHello, how to install file  *.bin ?02:50
sethkbuild-essential      not    build-essentials02:50
SkramXah02:50
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SkramXdoy!02:50
SkramXthanks02:50
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SkramXit isnt huge,, should be built in IMHO :)02:51
siloeHello, how to install file  *.bin ?02:51
patconnexionsileo .. just type sh02:51
patconnexion;)02:51
thomboneholycow: good point and sethk: ditto02:51
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sethkSkramX, no set of default options will satisfy everyone.02:51
Tru7hDoes anybody know if I can install Ubuntu using Windows?02:52
SkramXof coure02:52
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SkramX*course02:52
Mrhello02:52
holycowsethk, excellent poitn02:52
aFxTru7h : use Vmware tool02:52
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vlade33i can't successfully install nvidia drivers ... i followed this https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html... and nothing.. x won't even start02:52
holycowwhich also explains the existence of so much variety and seeming duplication in this neck of the wood02:52
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holycows02:52
Tru7haFx: What does that do?02:52
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sidny4Tru7h, how do you mean using windows? Using VMWare yes02:52
MrI have a question im a complete noob at linux can someone help me privatly?02:52
sidny4it makes a virtual machine02:52
aFxhttp://www.vmware.com <---02:53
sidny4based on your hardware02:53
holycowMr, just ask here02:53
MrOk02:53
Tru7hWell, I can use my second CD drive, so I was thinking I could maybe install Ubuntu from that drive while running windows.02:53
loper06is it possible to restrict ssh logins to one per user/username?02:53
holycowMr, and welcome :)02:53
xtrioxis it possible to shutdown the laptop when closing the lid?02:53
sidny4no, you would need to boot from the ubuntu CD02:53
ChocoCidyeah, you can02:53
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sidny4at least I think so02:53
Tru7hUgh... and there's no way to boot from a non-master drive, right?02:53
ChocoCidsystem- prefs - power management, xtriox02:54
sethkxtriox, yes, it is possible02:54
THX-1138xtriox - power management is unpolished. - maybe02:54
vlade33can someone plase help me install nvidia drivers for 680002:54
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holycowTru7h, ubuntu doesn't have a windows installerd02:54
xtrioxpower management only let me suspend and hibernate02:54
XanotosCould someone please instruct me hw to reset my MySQL password? I've tried the mysql -u root -p mynewpassword and it gives me an error.02:54
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holycowyou CANNOT install ubuntu FROM windows02:54
sethkTru7h, there are some BIOSes that can do it, but you said your box is old, plus it's dell02:54
MrI burned desktop ubuntu and ( formatted my whole harddrive on my other computer ) it boots up from cd then I click install sometimes it doesnt open sometimes the os freezes although its running from cd and I have another problem Im using my tv as the monitor and the bottom of the installer is cut off02:54
sidny4if you change some settings in your bios you can02:54
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ChocoCidit has shutdown as an option02:54
holycowyou need to use the installation cd from whatever drive you have and boot off of that02:54
THX-1138holycow - lol02:54
MrAlso it freezes evertime i get the the timezone part02:54
xtrioxChocoCid, but not for closing the lid02:54
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sethkTru7h, there is no problem running ubuntu from the slave drive02:55
ChocoCider02:55
XanotosTru7h: You CAN, though, use VMWare Server (gratis) and run Ubuntu inside of that.02:55
olofHi, how do I change my HZ on the monitor?02:55
sethkTru7h, you simply install grub on the master, and let it boot both windows and linux02:55
ChocoCidyeah, i guess you'd have to do it via a config file02:55
loper06anyone? is it possible to restrict ssh logins to one per user/username? yes or no02:55
Mruhh did someone read what I said so i can get some help?02:55
vlade33how can i install nvidia drivers on ubuntu.. i tried 2 times and x failed to loead02:55
sethkTru7h, I think there is a bit of confusion.  I think you mean that you want to dual boot, with windows on master and linux on slave.  there is no problem doing that.02:55
vlade33load02:55
freemindI got a 10port switch with 3 ubuntu pcs, but only get broadcast ping from one of them, why?02:55
xtrioxChocoCid, I went to the config file and theres no option there02:55
silvertip257sethk:  good 2 know b/c i'm trying dual booting after i master linux :)02:55
holycowMr, i read it, everyone read it02:55
XanotosIs anyone here familiar with MySQL?02:56
sethkMr, I would try a text mode install from the alternate cd02:56
holycowMr, the rules are basically ask the question, sit and wait for an answer02:56
THX-1138!nvidia02:56
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:56
patconnexionwhat is command to change mac adress of the computer ?02:56
holycowsomeone will come around, and don't be rude and insist anyone help you02:56
thombonemr: no one is ignoring you, it's just that no one here probably knows the answer offhand02:56
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holycowwe all do this for free02:56
Mrok02:56
vlade33i tried that02:56
sidny4Mr, the alternate CD is much better, I have had issues myself with the desktop CD02:56
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patconnexion Is there commande to change mac adress of the computer ?02:56
Mrafter the ulternate installation will it run one when its done02:56
THX-1138Mr - you get what you pay for... - lol02:56
jtholmesMr: i had the same problem the other night and I solved it by double clicking the install icon so it started two installs and when I got to to timezone i caneclled the other install and things installed02:57
Xanotospatconnexion: a MAC address is tied to a NIC02:57
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Mrill try it02:57
kitchepatconnexion: yes there is it's part of ifconfig02:57
Xanotospatconnexion: You can do MAC spoofing and such, but I don't know ho to start with that. :-)02:57
jtholmesMr: weird but it worked02:57
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xtrioxplease can somebody tell my how can I shutdown on closing the laptop's lid02:57
newbieI am running the live cd of ubuntu 6.06 I was wondering if someone could tell me how to be able to watch quicktime trailers and windows media files streams working02:57
sidny4you want to shut down when the lid closes?02:57
patconnexionno i dont want to change for network but for the machine02:57
sidny4or you don't want it to shut down when the lid closes02:57
xtrioxsidny4, yes02:57
sidny4ok02:57
Mreven when i double click it usually doesnt open 202:57
sidny4should be in the power settings02:58
MrIll try though again02:58
patconnexioni found much about network adress but i want to change the mac adress of the computer ... Not for the network mac adress02:58
aFxTru7h : if you try to install on second hd , you have to know well about Linux partision (grub,lilo)02:58
XanotosCould someone please help me reset my MySQL password?02:58
MissLadyI installed ubuntu on my hdd and i've UsbCableModem and need help to config it. With live-cd this usb modem worked very fine and automatically but since i installed ubuntu, it don't work. Can anyone help me pl ?02:58
jtholmesMr: then click three times etc. until you have more than one02:58
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holycowpatconnexion, dude, your computer DOESN'T have a mac address02:58
xtrioxsidny4, I want the laptop to shutdown when I close the lid02:58
THX-1138xtriox - you might try xev and xmodmap and tie that to a scrioted shutdown  #!/bin/bash shutdown -f -r now02:58
sidny4system->preferences->power management02:58
holycowmac addresses are at a component level02:58
sidny4and I believe it's on the general tab02:59
ChocoCidsidny4 : i already checked that, it's not there02:59
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sidny4hmm02:59
ChocoCidreally seems odd02:59
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ChocoCidthat was the first thing i thought of too02:59
admin_How do i tell what process is using most ram02:59
kitchepatconnexion: umm MAC has to deal with networking02:59
xtrioxTHX-1138, in english please?02:59
ChocoCidgnome-system-monitor, admin_02:59
sidny4it's been awhile since I've used it on my laptop02:59
holycowadmin_, or top in command line02:59
THX-1138xtriox - gconf-editor /apps/metacity will allow you to map a key (in this case the lid close button to a command)02:59
patconnexionbecause is the mac the same for bluetooth and internet for exemple ?02:59
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admin_holycow: top dosnt always have it in order03:00
holycowpat no03:00
Groovebot!restricted03:00
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:00
Mrits kinda off topic but does anyone know if the 64bit edition is noticably better?03:00
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xtrioxTHX-1138 , thanks I will try that03:00
holycowpatconnexion, your ethernet card will have one mac address, your bluetooth device will have its own mac address03:00
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elite_hackerhtf is ubuntu pronounced?03:00
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admin_Use Easyubuntu if you have problems with restricted formats, its easy03:00
Renan_s2elite_hacker, oo-BOON-too03:00
holycowooobooontooo03:00
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LjLelite_hacker: ooboontoo. or whatever you want.03:00
admin_elite_hacker: oooboonttwoo03:00
patconnexionwhen i connect to a bluetooth phone i have the same name that have been given by the university ... I got my computer from them03:01
sidny4Mr, I'm using the 64 bit, not too much better but it was more stable than the intel x8603:01
patconnexioni want to change this03:01
patconnexion:(03:01
THX-1138xtriox - type xev in a terminal prompt - see the keycode when you press the lid close button. map that code to a command - your #!/bin/bash  shutdown -f -r now    command script.03:01
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holycowpatconnexion, i know it can be done, i don't know how its done ... maybe a quick google would explain it03:02
Mrsidny4 So like programs dont freeze as much? or is it worth installing?03:02
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holycowpatconnexion, i just never needed to do that so i can't tell you, sorry03:02
patconnexionok doesn t matter ... thanks03:02
patconnexion;)03:02
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OmniDMission ATImpossible03:02
elite_hackerRenan_s2, LjL, admin_: thanks.  i was afraid i was going to make a fool out of myself at a linux user group meeting03:02
sidny4if you have an AMD64 processor, it might be worth installing03:02
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Mri do03:03
ZarephathI have a logitech optical wireless mouse...any way to get the scroll wheel to do a double click when depressed?03:03
holycowMr, let me just say that in reading your comments you are not just a noob to linux, but computers in general :)03:03
sidny4I installed the intel x86 twice and both times the system either locked up or there were seg faults like mad03:03
MissLadyI installed ubuntu on my hdd and i've UsbCableModem and need help to config it. With live-cd this usb modem worked very fine and automatically but since i installed ubuntu, it don't work. Can anyone help me pl ?03:03
sethkMr, odds are you wouldn't ever notice the difference.  before installing it, make sure the things you need to run are available in 64 bit.03:03
THX-1138xtriox - no need for the -r - sorry -   shutdown -f  now    command script.03:03
thombone64-bit linux is great for servers but for desktops I don't think it's quite ready for primetime yet... there's a lot of stuff just not working in 64 bit yet03:03
Mrok, yeah i have the 64bit turion03:03
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ZarephathMissLady: Your cable modem should work fine..I suspect your issue is with your network card03:03
MrYeah they said its good when programming03:04
holycowMr, no03:04
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sidny4yeah, that's the problem with 64, it keeps getting pushed up but it's just not ready yet03:04
MrI read a article03:04
sidny4not perfected and there isn't enough support for it03:04
MissLadyZarephath i don't use network card but usb cable03:04
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holycowMr, even for applications that are compiled and built for 64 bit, the average user won't know the difference03:04
ZarephathMissLady: Sorry mis-read your post03:04
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Mro ok yeah im not going to worry about getting it if im not going to see a difference then03:04
MissLadyZarephath np ;p03:04
vlade33which "linux-restricted-modules" should i use when installing NVIDIA DRIVERS FOR 680003:04
holycowMr, 64 basically is not necessarily faster for the average workload, it mostly allows programs to address A HUGEASS AMOUNT of ram03:04
sethkMr, I have some production machines running 64 bit ubuntu, but they have a narrow well defined purpose.03:05
thomboneMr: indeed you'll probably find 32-bit much more enjoyable for now03:05
sidny4vlade33, the one that matches your system best :)03:05
vlade33how do i know :)?03:05
gleesondso is there a way to switch to gdm with out reinstalling it?03:05
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holycowMr, so typically what benefits from 64 bit cpus are database applications, 3d rendering, and scientific applications that need large amounts of ram03:05
xtrioxTHX-1138, I typed XEV and a little box popped up, then I closed the lid but got no keycode03:05
holycowthe average desktop user simply wont see the difference03:05
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MrOk im not a big noob at computers03:05
ZarephathMissLady: First off you need to find out what chipset it is using...look at dmesg and see what usb devices are listed03:05
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Axe_Anyone know where I can find xtest03:05
newbieCould someone also tell me if there is a way to get xgl to work on ubuntu live cd03:05
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sidny4it's mostly based off of your CPU03:05
thombone64 bit can even be slower than 32 bit in some cases03:05
sethkxtriox, the lid switch is not treated as a keyboard key, you can't identify it that way.03:06
joejaxx!xgl03:06
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems03:06
joejaxxnewbie: ^03:06
joejaxx:)03:06
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holycowMr, :) lol is allright, i worry sometimes that if people don't have the proper perspective they come to the wrong conclusions about stuff.  you see to be open minded :)03:06
vlade33sidny4: i have a p4 ht 3.203:06
Mrmy installation wont open on ubuntu live cd03:06
sidny4probably the 686 then03:06
MissLadyZarephath what i need to do ... i'm new in linux and i don't know dmesg command03:06
holycowMr, then download the alternate cd everyone told you about03:06
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Mrok but is it going to look like this when its done installing?03:06
holycowthat will install for sure, unless you hae some bizarro hardware configuration no one has ever heard of03:06
ZarephathMissLady: dmesg |less from the terminal03:06
xtrioxsethk, then is not possible to shutdown when closing the lid?03:06
aboutblankhow can i check the filesystem of a drive?03:07
holycowMr, like the desktop you see on your live cd03:07
sidny4Mr, it will look like what the live CD looked like03:07
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holycowsidny4, you type too slow03:07
holycow>_>03:07
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holycow:)03:07
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sidny4haha, so03:07
sidny4:P03:07
Mrok good now i have to download alternate cd :(03:07
XanotosIs there a relatively simple way to setup a DNS server in Ubuntu? My domain registrar (godaddy) requires two different nameservers, and I only have a single IP.03:07
sethkxtriox, it's possible to detect the switch and fire off a switch.  It doesn't happen at the X windows level, it is a lower level thing.  Try google; I found it a few weeks ago and I'm sure it is still there.  :)03:07
ZarephathMissLady: Your up down arrows let you scroll...to quit just press "q"03:07
totall_6_7Mr: that is how it looks till you install themes hehehehe03:07
sidny4yeah, but once it's downloaded you will have a piece of pure happiness03:07
DigitalNinjaCan I setup Xubuntu in spanish?03:07
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MissLadyZarephath thx. if i resume i need to do dmesg in terminal when live-cd running or i must do that in my new installation ?03:08
aftertafDigitalNinja: yes03:08
holycowMr, well you can go :( about that, but then did you pay a  penny for about 100 000$ worth of software that cd comes with?03:08
MrI want it to look like that besides the background03:08
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patconnexionby the way ... Have any one an azerty keyboard ? It s alway s the same problems with numbers.. caps lock is not working for numbers... I tried to look arround in keyboard layout but there is nothing to do :( I'm french but i realy hate those azerty keyboards.. Not good for Linux :(03:08
Mrlooks like s***03:08
holycowif you look at it that way downloading another cd is :)03:08
holycowright?03:08
DigitalNinjaaftertaf: Will there be an option at login to switch between english and spanish?03:08
holycowMr, you can change the wallpaper03:08
ChocoCidyou can change EVERYTHING heh03:08
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ZarephathMissLady: You can do it both ways...I suggest if your cable modem is working with the live cd then look at what is different booted to live-cd versus install03:08
ChocoCidwallpaper, toolbars, title bars, colorschemes, hell, you can change your windows manager altogether03:08
MrYeah i know umm whats the difference between the server edition from desktop03:08
Mris server all texted based?03:09
ChocoCidserver edition has no GUI, i think03:09
ChocoCid!server03:09
ubotuUbuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/03:09
xtrioxTHX-1138, thanks for trying03:09
sidny4server is what it says, a server03:09
holycowMr, not a lot, server has less packages, no gui interface03:09
Mri like gui03:09
aftertafDigitalNinja: not really... but you can setup a user for one or the other.03:09
Mri had it before03:09
ChocoCidheh03:09
ChocoCidit's hard to use a computer without a GUI03:09
Mri just looked at the screen03:09
Mrlol03:09
holycowChocoCid, *umm* no03:09
holycowsorry03:09
MissLadyZarephath: Thx a lot i'll try this now :)03:09
sidny4gui is for sissies :D03:09
simpladoes any one know if linux doesn't quite support my laptop (ie ACPI etc), is it possible that it could over heat?03:09
holycow*ding*03:09
sidny4so, I'm a sissy03:09
holycowback to the line with you!03:09
ZarephathMissLady: Good luck03:09
ChocoCidlet me know when you can run firefox with no GUI03:09
MissLadyZarephath: Thx :)03:10
ChocoCidlynx doesn't show images :P03:10
sidny4I know03:10
sidny4lynx, haven't used that in ages03:10
ZarephathMissLady: Before you go you can try this command too... lsusb03:10
sidny4since I tried to install gentoo03:10
holycowsimpla, all cpus come with fan elements designed to keep them cool enough for operation even under 100% load all the time03:10
Mrlol03:10
ChocoCidin theory :\03:10
holycowsimpla, so no chance unless you have shitty hardware03:10
Mrfirefox with no gui? wow03:10
simplaholycow, so it doesn't matter that there is no software support?03:10
ChocoCidMr : no, firefox with no GUI isn't possible really03:10
ChocoCidyou can use lynx though03:10
holycowMr, you can run firefox via x without gui yes03:11
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ChocoCidwell, ok03:11
sidny4yeah, I looked up google once in lynx03:11
sidny4I got lost03:11
ChocoCidmy computer hit 75 degrees celsius the other day and auto-shutdown03:11
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holycowsimpla, no, what it will do is eat up your battery because it won't know HOW to shut off unnecessary hardware03:11
DaveyJmy sound vanished :( is there a way to reload the sound driver?03:11
Zarephath!moust03:11
DaveyJor module03:11
sidny4ChocoCid, your fan blows, but not really03:11
holycowsimpla, all that will happen is the fan will run all the time03:11
Zarephath!mouse03:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about moust - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:11
ubotuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto03:11
xtrioxsethk, thanks, though I might never find it03:11
ChocoCidi have 3 fans on my computer actually03:11
ChocoCidthe problem is it's on a desk and can't get enough airflow most likely03:12
ChocoCid(laptop)03:12
sidny4ah03:12
sidny4yeah they'll do that sometimes03:12
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ChocoCidi need to get one of those cooling pads03:12
simplaholycow, oh ok.  Do you know of any links or info that I could start looking up, to figure out to give it support?03:12
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sidny4I don't have one, my roomate does and he likes it03:12
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Mrwhos looking forward to windows vista? , not me03:12
holycowsimpla, honestly, google is really your #1 resources03:12
holycowsimpla, ubuntu wiki and forums are your #2 resource03:12
sidny4I'm scared of window vista, it's too stupid friendly03:13
simplaholycow, yeah have been trying that, not much luck.  Any how thanks for your help!  I will keep looking.03:13
sidny4everything is "here, I'll do that for you"03:13
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holycowsimpla, chance of anyone here really having enough experience with your hardware is not very high03:13
holycowsimpla, no problemo03:13
timalotmr: they are already behind the times... with compiz/XGl  on X windows03:13
arekmennerHey, can anybody give me some help troubleshooting audio? You don't need to necessarily walk me through it, I just need to know how to find what's wrong.03:13
Mrits prob just going to be more drivers already installed and anti pirate stuff03:13
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arekmennerIt's a bit difficult to ask people about my problems when all I could tell them is that it's not working >_<03:14
sidny4I can't wait until linux hits primetime and takes out windows at the knees03:14
holycowMr, i've been using linux exclusively now for a good number of years03:14
simplaholycow, yeah I figured that, as there isn't much info on it regarding any linux.. :(  but thought I would try anyhow.03:14
holycowMr, trying to use windows is very painfull,e specially when things go wrong03:14
Mrlol03:14
holycowsimpla, just out of curiosity, what laptop model?03:14
jtholmessidny4: dont hold you breath until it happens03:14
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MrI could see using linux but not 100% for my main operating system but thats why im trying to use it now03:14
simplaholycow, Acer Travelmate 5614WMSi03:14
sidny4haha, I'm not planning on it jtholmes03:15
holycowoh, eh acer has linux based laptops and i buy those a lot03:15
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ChocoCidwindows vista looks like a really freaking bad system03:15
Mryeah03:15
holycowbut their non linux stuff uses all sorts of weird crap03:15
ChocoCidi have XP because i didn't consider switching to linux until recently03:15
sidny4simpla, I've had ubuntu on my Acer Axpire 3003WLMi for a long time with no problem03:15
MrI think they are already rushing it03:15
ChocoCidand quite frankly, there's one app i actually need windows to run03:15
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b1shop<-- panicking out of inodes on a 3+TB array.  how do i add more without totally fsck'ing things up!?03:15
holycowacer is kind of like a garbage dump, they will scrape up any type of shit components and drop them into their laptops03:15
Mrlol03:15
totall_6_7Mr:  that is what i did, i dumped XP and went 100% linux and i love it03:15
sidny4simpla, try checking out www.linux-laptop.net03:16
ChocoCidif wine ever gets to where it can run that app, i'm dumping windows03:16
simplaholycow, funny thing is, lol, I did the dvd restore disk creation.  Then formatted etc to try linux.  Disappointed with linux, so tried to put the restore back on, and unfortunately find out that the dvd didn't burn properly :( lol.  So I guess back to linux and just bare with it03:16
MrIm on a Gateway03:16
Axe_ChocoCid, what app03:16
aftertafwhich app ChocoCid03:16
ChocoCidMWS03:16
arekmennerI've actually heart Acer laptops are really good.03:16
ChocoCidwell, not mws, mwsplay03:16
ChocoCidmws actually works perfectly heh03:16
MrGateways are better :)03:16
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sidny4Acer laptops are good03:16
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arekmennerI've had a vendetta against Gateway for quite some time.03:16
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ChocoCidthe description on winehq for mws is actually wrong :/03:16
simplasidny4, did it pick up the ACPI stuff?  Does all that work, like the battery, lid close etc?03:16
holycowsimpla, well get a windows source cd and just reinstall ... the sticky on the bottom has all the info you need03:16
sidny4I've never had any complaints about them (ok, the battery sucks)03:16
MrI have 5 hours03:17
sidny4in ubuntu dapper yes03:17
MrPlatnuim Edition03:17
Mrlaptop 30% more battery03:17
sidny4previous versions I had to compile the DSDT03:17
ChocoCidhttp://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=5661  <-- this doesn't actually work after following his instructions03:17
Mrwow my internet sucks03:17
sidny4the newest version has taken care of that for you03:17
timalotwhy03:17
Mrim paying for 6mb download03:17
simplaholycow, yeah I tried that, but the serial number on the sticker won't work in it.  Comes up invalid serial.  I was reading that there is a difference between the retail Xp Pro, and the OEM version that comes preinstalled.  The serials don't work with each other.03:17
Mrand the fastest it goes it 150kbps03:17
ChocoCidyou can use shipit03:18
MrI cant believe this03:18
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holycowsimpla, really?03:18
holycowwow03:18
Mrim paying for 6mb download and i get 150 to 180 is the fastest i can do03:18
sidny4well Mr, what's your internet connection?03:18
arekmennerMr: I would be dissapointed, too. hahah03:18
simplaholycow, yep03:18
holycowsimpla, well thats the weirdest way to get a new user of linux but ... well ... welcome :)03:18
holycowlol03:18
MrSBC Yahoo i keep beggin my parents to go to comcast03:18
sidny4yeah, windows WGA blows goat, that is one of the main reasons I'm dumping windows03:18
holycowwhich parts of ubuntu didn't you like? what can we help you with?03:18
sidny4but I keep it, for gaming and for macromedia flash03:18
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jtholmesMr: the download site does  have influence over the download speed03:19
sidny4cedega does work pretty well though03:19
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ChocoCidlinux has (adobe) flash actually03:19
totall_6_7mr you need a download manager that will split downloads and download all of the split files at the same time, you will find yourself hitting your max download speed then03:19
simplaholycow, lol.  Well I am using ubuntu on my desktop pc.  Havent' used windows for a little while actually.  Was hoping to do the same on the laptop03:19
Mro im using torrent03:19
jtholmesMr: it could be very busy03:19
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Mryeah true03:19
ChocoCidit's not the latest version though, but i think the NEXT version of flash will be for both windows and linux03:19
Mri love my dads house03:19
arekmennerI run Linux, but I keep Windows around for little compatibility problems.03:19
Mr400kbps and it goes faster03:19
lars30my mouse is very jumpy.. i've tried updating the DPI resoluion in xorg.conf but it hasn't made much difference. anyone have any other suggestions?03:19
ChocoCidclean the ball03:19
sidny4sweet! where did you hear that chococid?03:19
lars30heh03:20
lars30it's a laser one.03:20
arekmennerHmm...03:20
holycowsimpla, there is a laptop compatability list on the wiki, check your laptop against that.  in terms of getting acpi to work, you may need to google and learn to compile and get it to work manually03:20
Mrthis site set a limit of 400kbps but the net goes faster then that03:20
ChocoCidsidny4 : not ENTIRELY sure of that, i'm pretty sure it was unofficial03:20
sidny4ic ic03:20
arekmennerlars30: I really couldn't tell you.03:20
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lars30k03:20
simplaholycow, yeah its not in the list.  and yep will search for that now.03:20
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ChocoCidare you on gnome or KDE?03:20
arekmennerlars30: Don't give up, though, I'm pretty bad at this stuff.03:20
lars30:)03:20
timalotlars30: check the sensitivty setting in preferences->mouse ... plus ive found making sure AGP is enabled helped me03:21
lars30ChocoCid, was that for me? i'm on Gnome.03:21
MrCan the program bitcomet not be good for downloading stuff fast?03:21
SinnerGwhen I do an apt-get update && upgrade and I see for example openssl being updated : should I recompile everything that uses it ?03:21
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ChocoCidk, just checking03:21
holycowMr, wtf is bitcomet?03:21
ChocoCiduh, SinnerG , no03:21
holycowsounds like some windows spyware03:21
Mrlol03:21
SinnerGok03:21
Mrbitorrent program03:21
ChocoCidbitcoment is a torrent program03:21
totall_6_7Mr: torrents are only as fast as the source(s) you are getting them from03:21
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totall_6_7mostly slow03:22
MrYeah i thought so someone told me bitcomet sucked03:22
holycowah in that case deal with it03:22
holycowa torrent is a torrent is a torrent03:22
ChocoCidtorrents are typically slow03:22
DaveyJmy sound vanished :( is there a way to reload the sound driver or module?03:22
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ChocoCidlars30 : mind pasting the mouse-related stuff in your xorg.conf on http://rafb.net/paste03:22
ChocoCid?03:22
Mrim downloading at 150kbps so i have to wait a hour and a half till its done03:22
aboutblankare the commands listed in System - Prefs - Sessions - Startup programs executed as root or the user that logs in?03:22
arekmennerDaveyJ: I don't know, but I'm hacing similar problems, so if you can find an answer, please tell me.03:22
ChocoCidprefs-* are as logon user, i think; which is why you don't need to type in your pass03:23
ChocoCidcould be wrong though03:23
totall_6_7Mr:  try usenet (news groups)03:23
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lars30timalot: sensitivity is all the way to Low.. it's most jumpy on the "borders" of windows and widgets (if that makes sense)...03:23
lars30timalot: AGP?03:23
lars30timalot: I've a PCI Express NVidia video card.. but i'm still using the generic "nv" driver.03:23
JanKok5Hi folks. I've used Red Had and other distros in previous times. Today, decided to try ubuntu as a way of poking around on a broken Windoze 2000 box.Burned a ubunto CD and booted off it on the Windoze box. It got as far as starting up the window manager and nautilis, then I get a X Windows screen. The mouse cursor moves around, but there isn't much on the screen except an icon in the lower left, and what look like windows workspaces on the lo03:23
ChocoCidooh, on the borders?03:23
lars30timalot: (If that's what you meant by AGP)03:23
ChocoCidthere's a setting that controls it snapping to borders, i think03:23
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ChocoCidlars30 : mind pasting the mouse-related stuff in your xorg.conf on http://rafb.net/paste ?03:24
timalotlars30: yeah i dont know about PCI express ... too new for me i live back in the dark ages of AGP..... but making sure u have full 2d acceleration is a good idea03:24
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timalotlars30: yeah the generic driver should be ok03:25
deadly_venomMy internet connection was working fine (I can browse firefox), until I deactivated it. Now, when I re-activate it, Internet browsing doesn't work any longer. Status: Idle .. How can I fix this?03:25
Mrhow much ram should i have to run ubuntu03:25
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holycowdeadly_venom, depends where the problem actually is03:26
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holycowdeadly_venom, sometimes stopping and starting your eth card from terminal helps03:26
lars30ChocoCid: http://rafb.net/paste/results/AmkKdi18.html03:26
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holycowso ifdwon eth0 && ifup eth0 works03:26
deadly_venomholycow how can I do tha?03:26
holycowthat should at least tell you if it can acquire dhcp addy03:26
holycowthen you can do ifconfig and that will tell you what interfaces are up and give you ip and other info03:27
ChocoCidlars30 : i take it you raised "resolution" there?03:27
detectiveinspekthow can you check for SMART errors?03:27
deadly_venomholycow When i click Support (eth0's properties) .. Internet Protocol (IPv4) Address: 127.0.0.1 .. Subnet: 255.0.0.0 . Network Device Type: Local Loopback .. Address: 00:00:00:00:00:0003:27
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holycowonce you know if your ethernet can come back up or not, you can go from there and figure out if its your network cable, your router, your isp, etc03:27
lars30ChocoCid: actually I added it, it wasn't in there at all.03:27
ChocoCidah, ok03:27
holycowdeadly_venom, well i didn't tell you to click on support :)03:28
Mrhow much RAM should i have to run ubuntu03:28
ChocoCidubuntu probably runs fine on pretty much any ram amount you have03:28
ChocoCidi mean, do they even SELL 64 meg ram cards anymore?03:28
holycowMr, as little or as much as you want03:28
deadly_venomholycow I was just giving u some updates. :)03:28
holycowMr, if you have 64 mb of ram then you cant use gnome desktop, you need something light like xfce03:28
holycowMr, if you have 128 or more gnome or kde will be okay03:29
timalotlars30: grep WW /var/log/Xorg.0.log will give u any warnings from X org .... there are always warnings... but u could check for stuff relating to the mouse or video driver03:29
MrI have 512 on the computer i want to install it on03:29
ChocoCidless than that, you want xubuntu03:29
ChocoCid512 is fine03:29
holycowafter about 512 megs ram, there is not a lot you can do to really notice a bunch of difference03:29
Mrok03:29
ChocoCidmight be a bit sluggish if you do graphics-intensive stuff, but that's true anywhere03:29
Mri just want to make it a server03:29
Mrim not using it to edit graphics and stuff03:29
ChocoCiduh, then why not use the ubuntu server version?03:30
holycowwith 512 megs you will either haveto work on VERY VERY large office or graphics documents to really notice sluggishness03:30
Mri need gui03:30
ChocoCidthe GUI on the server will slow it down03:30
holycowor very very large 3d scenes03:30
MrI need gui03:30
Mrlol03:30
holycowoutside of that, you can't do a whole lot to use up 512 at this point in time03:30
Mrim lost without it03:30
deadly_venomholycow This time, I got some ip address (which is correct) from Supprt .. BUT, it's status is still Idle. :(03:30
holycowMr, stop effin repeating your self.  jesus.  do we care if you need a gui?03:30
Mrsorry chill out03:30
freemindlol holycow03:30
holycowdeadly_venom, why are you in support?03:30
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Mrliterly03:30
Mrholycow03:31
holycowMr, this isnt a 12 step program03:31
holycowget over it, no one is going to coddle you03:31
freemindI like how you americans write :)03:31
Mrdarkangel? like that show with jessica alba :)03:31
deadly_venomholycow Alright then, I did sudo ifdown eth0 and sudo ifup eth0, and still status: Idle :(03:31
holycowdeadly_venom, open up a terminal and try the commands i gave you :) its good practice03:31
Mrwhat are you talking about03:31
freemindholycow: jesus.03:31
holycowdeadly_venom, ifconfig gives you what?03:31
freemindxD03:31
holycowfreemind, where?03:32
freemindwhatabout jesus mate03:32
holycow>_>03:32
freemind:)03:32
Mrlol03:32
JanKok5I _don't_ need a gui. I need a terminal window. ANy helep for me?03:32
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holycowJanKok5, thataway -->03:32
freemindlol03:32
ZarephathGetting kinda bummed here...been reading the wikis on modifying mouse button options..I have yet to see and example of how to make my scroll wheel double click when depressed..anyone point me to information on how this is done?03:32
freemindholycow I like you03:32
freemindwhere are you from03:32
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sproingiesynaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory03:33
holycowfreemind, i have come to the conclusion i am the figment of your imagination03:33
holycowhow about you?03:33
holycow<_<03:33
Mrlol03:33
sproingiewhat package do i need for libvte?03:33
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Mrbrb03:33
freemindbe serious holycow03:33
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freemind:D03:33
freemind(if you can)03:33
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holycowdeadly_venom, with ethernet stuff your basicallyh trying to figure out: a) does the card turn on or off b) if it can't grab a dhcp address, can i give it a static ip address and will that work03:34
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timalotsproingie: go to packages.ubuntu.com .... then type the library name in the "search contents of packages" form to find out03:34
holycowc) once you give it a static ip address, can it ping it self first, then can it ping the router03:34
freemindholycow: do you believe in god?03:34
loper06is it possible to restrict ssh logins to one per user/username?03:34
sproingiehm, it says libvte4 is installed.  i'll try reinstalling it03:34
holycowd) if it can ping it self but not router then it might be the newtork cable03:34
freemindloper06: yes, see "DenyUsers and DenyGroups"03:34
BlasphemousHey guys. I'm new to Ubuntu and Linux. =D03:35
freemindholycow: answer my question please :)03:35
freemindwelcome Blasphemous03:35
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holycowe) if you get a dhcp address or can see the rotuer but cant get to the internt, then the problem is either at the router or the isp03:35
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holycowfreemind, *cough* vancouver, and no, in that order03:35
uBuNtU_FrEaKIS THERE A WAY TO USE DUAL MONITOR ?03:35
sproingiewow, i have libvte.so.9 and not libvte.so.4.  they go crazy with the major version number or what?03:35
freemindlol :D03:35
d_vholycow Ive did what you've told me, to do.03:35
holycowuBuNtU_FrEaK, yes03:35
sproingieuBuNtU_FrEaK: stop shouting03:35
darkaurahi would I be able to get some help regarding the screen resolution of games like torcs?03:35
THX-1138uBuNtU_FrEaK: Do you have nvidia? twinview. ati xinerama03:36
holycowd_v, coolio, so where are you now? is it working?03:36
uBuNtU_FrEaKholycow: how can i do it .. i have nvidi 680003:36
holycowdoes it have dual head on the card?03:36
THX-1138!dualdisplay03:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dualdisplay - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:36
uBuNtU_FrEaKyes.. i use it with win03:36
d_vsproingie Do the following:03:36
holycowokay here are th einstructions:03:36
holycow!nvidia03:36
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:36
uBuNtU_FrEaKdone03:36
holycowmake sure you follow that first to get nvidia drivers setup03:36
theunruled /leave03:37
loper06freemind: how does that help. dosen't denyuser/group just limit to the users/group? if joe1 is logged in via ssh, another joe1 can't log in03:37
JanKok5holycow, it was a serious question. X Windows comes up, but there are no icons that do anything. My kingdom for a terminal window!03:37
d_vsproingie sudo aptitude install gnome-terminal-data/dapper-updates gnome-terminal/dapper-updates libvte4/dapper-updates03:37
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holycownow gimme a pastebin type site and i'll post my xorg.conf file so that you can refer to that for proper settings03:37
d_vsproingie sudo aptitude install libfreetype6/dapper-security03:37
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d_vsproingie sudo aptitude install libcairo2=1.0.4-0ubuntu103:37
holycowJanKok5, ah, alt/f2 and then type in gnome-terminal03:37
freemindloper06: then u r looking for deny/allow hosts03:37
d_vthat's it03:37
mustiHello anybody got howto for getting mscorefonts?03:37
holycowJanKok5, or ctrl/alt/f1 through f703:37
THX-1138dual monitors  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo03:37
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freemindholycow: take my pm pls03:38
holycowactually don't use xinerama03:38
holycowuse the nvidia dealie its much nicer03:38
THX-1138holycow read the linked page03:38
holycowfreemind, no, gimme a pastebin url i can post to pls03:38
holycowpaste it in here03:38
sproingied_v: hm, it has unmet dependencies and wants to keep libvte4 at its current version to resolve03:38
uBuNtU_FrEaKwhen i installed drivers for "linux-restricted-modules" i selected 686... and i have a p4 ht 3.2 ... <---- is this right ?03:38
loper06freemind: can u be more specific?03:39
freemindholycow: its a private question, but I can paste it to pastebin if you want so03:39
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sproingieeh, since it's just a keep resolution, i'll try taking it03:39
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freemindloper06: can YOU be more specific? :)03:39
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holycowoh that03:39
holycowi posted already03:39
freemindloper06: tell me what you want, exactly :)03:39
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akano1nhi, anyone could give me a hand to set up WPA for my wireless ?03:39
holycowvancouver canada and no in that order03:39
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holycow:)03:39
uBuNtU_FrEaKwhen i installed drivers for "linux-restricted-modules" i selected 686... and i have a p4 ht 3.2 ... <---- is this right ?03:39
sproingieugh, it's downgrading gnome-terminal.  i think i must have gotten some backports in there03:39
freemindok :)03:39
holycowthat basically means i'm canadian, but yes i suspect i might be german somewhere down the line03:40
holycowi'm too much of an asshole03:40
freemindnice country03:40
holycowhehe :)03:40
jtholmes!wireless > ankano1n03:40
freemindmy aunt lives in toronto03:40
sproingieuBuNtU_FrEaK: yes, that's what you want03:40
uBuNtU_FrEaKty03:40
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akano1njtholmes what ?03:40
THX-1138musti: sourceforge - though it must be in the repositories. - "restricted" catagory?03:40
freemindhow old r u holycow03:40
deadly_venomholycow yup eth0 works, it does take it's ip from the dhcp server, and I tried static IP doesn't work for me too :(03:40
loper06freemind: in sshd. if user joe1 logs in and another user tries to log in as joe1, they can't b/c joe1 is already logged in.03:40
holycowfreemind, technically, as old as the universe03:40
freemindlike everyone..03:41
holycowdeadly_venom, aha, okay well can you access your routers web interface maybe, if that is available to you?03:41
freemindbut thats the physically meaning03:41
freemindloper06: in that case, read the ssl manual, I dont know :(03:41
freemind*ssh03:41
LilandraHi03:42
sproingiedeadly_venom: thanks, it went into a downgrade frenzy for a while, but it works now :)03:43
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JanKok5holycow, ctl/alt/f2 thru f8 bring up various text windows, but there appear to be no shells listening to them. Characters are echoed in some of them, but there is no ">" prompt, ctl-C does nothing, etc.03:43
holycowJanKok5, those are terminals03:44
holycowlog in and shell away03:44
holycowthe same as gnome terminal03:44
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darkauraare the drivers off of the Nvidia website better than the Ubuntu 6.06 drivers?03:44
sethkJanKok5, do you have any  getty   processes running?03:44
holycowJanKok5, it sounds almost like your monitor is busted03:44
sethkJanKok5, you should have one   /sbin/getty   process for each virtual console03:44
holycowyour displaying everything at a set resolution but your moni is only showing the top left of the resolution windows03:45
JanKok5sethk, I wouldn't know, because I can't get to a shell :-) But I but probably not.03:45
holycowhave you tried maybe fiddling with your monitor settings? i'm guessing here, but if you cannot see the login section its basically offscreen03:45
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sethkJanKok5, if the machine is on a network and configured for it, you could ssh into it from another box03:45
holycowwhat sethk said03:45
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sethkJanKok5, by default there are six virtual consoles and X is on control-alt-7.  did you say you have displays on control-alt-f8, f9, and f10 also?03:47
deadly_venomholycow yup, i can login into my router03:47
deadly_venomhomepage03:47
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darkauraholycow are the Linux Drivers supllied by Nvidia beter than the Drivers supplied buy ubuntu?03:47
holycowdeadly_venom, bingo, everything then works03:47
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holycowdarkaura, actually they are the same binary drivers03:48
deadly_venomholycow I tried www.google.com , it doesn't work :( nor www.cnn.com nor ubuntuforums.org :(03:48
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deadly_venomnever mind03:48
deadly_venomit works now03:48
deadly_venomlol .. sorry03:48
JanKok5holycow, I think c-a-f8 was some sort of log, nothing on f9 or f10.03:48
holycowdarkaura, by default all linux distros have a free driver called nv which only has 2d acceleration03:48
deadly_venomholycow what seemed to be the problem?03:48
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holycowdarkaura, but ubuntu does provide nvidias drivers PROPERLY PACKAGED03:49
holycowdarkaura, i strongly urge you to NEVER EVER use the nvidia installers, they are total generic crap03:49
holycowsame drivers, properly packaged in other words03:49
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meatfacehowdy03:49
d_venomholycow could you please tell me, what semmed to be the problem?03:49
freemindholycow: not correct.03:49
holycowdeadly_venom, your network card simply wasn't picking up an ip address and gateway info via dhcp for some reason and you needed to do it manually03:50
Axe_there's a nice tutorial somewhere that details specifically how to setup samba shares, can someone make the bot tell me about it03:50
holycowJanKok5, not logs, those are terminals03:50
freemindfor example: when you want to install XGL, nvidia-beta-driver is REQUIRED03:50
Dr_willis!samba03:50
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT03:50
Axe_ahh thank you03:50
holycowJanKok5, you just cannot see the bottom of the terminal for some reason where your logon lines are03:50
holycowfreemind, technically one shouldn't be installing crap like xgl :) lol03:50
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holycowfreemind, but that is correct, right03:51
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freemindtell them too ;)03:51
d_venomholycow by manually you mean " sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0 " right?03:51
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JanKok5holeycow, its a LCD monitor and seems to be working ok. I suspect there are no gettys, or at least they cant hear the keyboard. Also, seems strange that the X window should be nearly empty except for a top and bottom white bar. Is that normal?03:51
holycowd_venom, yes03:51
freemindholycow: how old are you by the way ;-)03:51
holycowJanKok5, say what? indeed no03:51
sethkfreemind, add the line     vga=ask     to your kernel command line in /boot/grub/menu.lst, and choose the 80x25 resolution.  that should at least get your consoles.03:52
holycowfreemind, i already answered that :)03:52
d_venomholycow thank you.03:52
Mrowned03:52
sethkfreemind, sorry, wrong nick03:52
Mrback everybody03:52
holycowno worries03:52
sethkJanKok5,  add the line     vga=ask     to your kernel command line in /boot/grub/menu.lst, and choose the 80x25 resolution.  that should at least get your consoles.03:52
meatfaceI am having an issue with the gui freezing at boot. Everything is good until I login. After the login screen the music is playing until the deskto is about half loaded. Then the music cuts and the desktop stops loading. I can move the cursor but cannot click anything along the top panel. If I disable sound in user privliges then everything boots fine. Anybody have any ideas, this is making me crazy.03:52
freemindholycow ;))))) yea, you did indeed03:52
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sidviciusanybody use apace2 with multiples ssl certificates?03:52
HedgeMageDoes one have to restart any processes to make changes to /etc/hosts take effect?03:52
sethkmeatface, IRQ sharing bug, I'd bet03:52
Mrapache2?03:52
freemindHedgeMage: no03:52
HedgeMagefreemind: thanks, didn't think so, but I had to check.03:53
sethkmeatface, try toggling the PnP setting in the BIOS setup.  if it is on, turn it off, and if it is off, turn it on.03:53
deadly_venomholycow:  THanks again :D03:53
sethkmeatface, that usually changes the assignments of IRQs, and I've seen that fix problems of this sort.03:53
holycowmeatface, my first instinct is to try a reinstall ... something is borked and i've never seen that  before.  i'm thinking something is wrong with gnome libraries my self03:53
holycowdeadly_venom, any time03:53
freemindHedgeMage: needs a moment to work03:53
sethkmeatface, it only works in about, oh, maybe one out of five times, but it's worth a try.03:53
sidviciusapache2 + mod_ssl03:53
freemindHedgeMage: about 10-60s03:53
meatfacesethk, I may sound a little stupid here but what is PnP03:53
HedgeMagefreemind: thanks, got it already :D03:53
sethkmeatface, oh, sorry, plug and play03:53
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freemindHedgeMage: i guess its reloaded every minute03:54
sethkmeatface, there is usually a bios setup option that says "plug and play operating system"03:54
freemindHedgeMage: np :)03:54
deadly_venomNow, all I need is to make my wireless work (It's activated and runninng) but i can't browse! ..03:54
meatfaceDuh! sorry that was pretty thick of me03:54
JanKok5Pnp= plug and PRAY03:54
freemindmeatface, what about you nick? nick03:54
meatfaceI will definitely give that a try, thanks for the suggestion03:54
holycowmeatface, great nick03:54
holycowhehe03:54
freemindholycow: please answer my question03:54
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meatfacefreemind, what about it?03:55
holycowfreemind, stop being so dutch :)03:55
freemindmeatface, it rawks03:55
meatfacethanks03:55
holycowi'm 30 according to some humans, but i beg to differ03:55
freemindwhat does dutch mean?03:55
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holycowokay okay deutch03:55
freemindlol03:55
Pierredutch are worst03:55
Pierre:)03:55
holycowoh you euro03:55
holycowi looooove amsterdam :)03:56
freemindme 203:56
holycowdutch girlies are really lovelie03:56
freeminda spliff a day....?03:56
freemind...keeps doctors away03:56
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freemindxD03:56
holycowheh03:56
meatfaceI was on the internet when I first got a computer a few years back on rotten.com, and saw a picture of this guy that had his face all mangled in an accident. Me and my buddies named him meatface and that has been my handle eversince.03:56
JanKok5sethk, I'm booting off a live CD. Should I put that in the boot options (f6 on the initial screen) or in the VGA selection (f5)... ah maybe that?03:56
harisundIs it possible to create a fat32 file system within Linux? Do I need some particular switches in the mkfs command?03:57
holycowmeatface, heh neat03:57
freemindlol meatface03:57
freemindu r crazy03:57
freemind:D03:57
holycowharisund, if you do with via terminal yes, but we have lotsa guis for that03:57
holycowharisund, try gparted03:57
meatfaceanyway, I am out of here, I need to reboot to try sethk's suggestion. Thanks for the hospitality!03:57
harisundholycow, sorry ... I don't have GUI access for it ...03:57
holycowyou can even create an ntfs parition but i wouldn't recommend it03:57
harisundThis is a hard disk connected to a box I remote into ..03:57
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amonkeywhat's the best graphical (s)ftp client for gnome (or  wtv)?03:58
sethkharisund, you can use mkdosfs, or mkfs.vfat (which is the same thing) but as holycow said it's best to use windows programs to create windows file systems03:58
holycowoh there we go03:59
v3l0ctamonkey: that's all a matter of taste03:59
holycowi was lookin for tha, right what he said03:59
harisundmkdosfs creates fat32 partitions? oh ... didn't realize.. thanks ... (sethk and holycow) ...03:59
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holycowi would use mkfs.vfat my self03:59
amonkeyv3l0ct, i know there will be different opinions, but some suggestions are alwasy nice.03:59
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raiXeri can't seem to change resolution with xorg 7.104:00
raiXerit just goes back to 800x60004:00
v3l0ctamonkey: if you want suggestions then you should specify it.  I like gftp, works fine.04:00
holycowraiXer, your on edgy aren't you?04:01
holycow>_>04:01
holycow#ubuntu+104:01
holycowhowever04:01
raiXeruhm yes04:01
deadly_venomWhen  i typed -> lspci | grep Airgo .. I get the following:04:01
deadly_venom0000:03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Airgo Networks Inc: Unknown device 0001 (rev 01)04:01
deadly_venomDo I have to worry? cause I see my pcmcia card light's on. And I can Go to my wireless connection properties04:01
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holycowmake sure you have the correct horizontal and  vertical refresh rates in your xorg.conf file for your monitor, restart gdm and log back in.  you will get all resolution options for your monitor then04:01
sidviciuslspci -v04:01
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deadly_venomsidvicius:  was that for me?04:02
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holycowlol04:05
meatfacehey04:05
holycowwe have people creating some neat nicks in here04:05
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freemindlol04:06
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freemindholycow: you're making me laugh all the time04:06
freemindvery funny guy04:06
PacketScangotta be original :p04:06
meatfacesethk, I gave it a shot, but my laptop is compaq and has a very limited bios. Sucks.04:06
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holycowfreemind, i guess in kinda like david hasselhof04:06
holycowi'm hated everywhere but worshipped in germany04:06
freemindxD!!04:06
holycow>_>04:06
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holycow*giggle*04:07
PacketScanmeatface, have you updated to latest bios?04:07
freemindworshipped?04:07
freemindwhy04:07
meatfaceSomething else that I thought of is that if I boot in recovery mode it boots fine with sound enabled.04:07
harisundIs the SMP kernel what I need for all of 1. Multiple cores, 2. Multiple processors 3. Hyperthreading?04:07
holycowfreemind, isn't hasselhoff a big deal over there?04:07
freemindharisund: 1.04:07
freemindholycow: wtf are you talkin' about?04:07
freemind:)=04:07
meatfacePacketScan, no I have not updated bios, and that is probably a great idea04:07
freemindyou mean this baywatch guy?04:07
harisundfreemind, what about for a machine with hyperthreading and multiple processors?04:07
freemindwhat about him04:08
holycowfreemind, you may not want to admit it but you know its true04:08
holycowlol !04:08
freemindLOL04:08
freemindyouzr funny man04:08
freemindLOL04:08
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freemindso, what abouth im?04:08
freemind*him04:08
freemind;))04:08
freemindyou like him?04:08
holycowwasn't he like a pop star in germany?04:08
freemind;))04:08
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freemindno, but in america i think04:09
holycowlol not at all04:09
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freemindhe is a STAR04:09
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holycowhere is the butt of all jokes04:09
freemindhollywood star -> *04:09
avagantOk guys, tell me there's a way to get out of this.04:09
freemindavagant: pants off04:09
avagantfreemind: Wha?04:09
holycowhehehe04:09
freemindj/k04:09
holycowwell technically ...04:09
v3l0ctlol, he's crap in America.  He was some kind of singer or something in Germany04:10
freemindlolol really?04:10
THX-1138And is Chuck Norris popular there? (it's ridiculous but, hey it's the 'Net)04:10
avagantI was trying to move a icon file from the desktop to the icon file and I think I accidently moved my whole entire desktop to the icon folder, what do I do?04:10
freemindI will put faulty tomatoes at him when I see him04:10
Shadow_milChuck Norris pwns all!04:10
freemindxD!!04:10
freemindgreatest lamer ever04:11
freemindin this case, I prefer hasselhoff04:11
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holycowwell chucknorris is a bible thumper04:11
avagantI'd really like some help with this, because I'm seriously going to cry. It's been the worst week of my life with this linux stuff.04:11
holycowproof --> http://youtube.com/watch?v=tlaWbCbZhAA04:12
freemindavagant: dont cry :(04:12
freemindavagant: tell us the problem again in one sentence04:12
darkauraholycow can you help me in private chat for a minut?04:12
holycowavagant, you can just copy it back04:12
THX-1138avagant - We are using linux and you can also, - What can we help with?04:13
holycowdarkaura, no, just ask here04:13
avagantI was trying to move my icons from my desktop to the icon file.04:13
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avagantAnd I accidently moved the whole entire Desktop folder I think.04:13
darkauraokay I followed this guide to install the drivers you get off of the site well mostly all of it http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Breezy04:13
avagantI moved it back, but I'm not sure if it's screwed up now.04:13
avagantCause my hd isn't showing up in ls04:13
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darkauraI used method 204:14
avagantMy second hd isn't showing up.04:14
holycowavagant, it really doesn't matter anyway.  when you log back in it will just be recreated04:14
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avagantAre you sure?04:14
darkauraand I was wondering how to uninstall the drivers I got off the site and re-install the original drivers04:14
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holycowall that is in your desktop folder would be any files you have on your desktop04:14
avagantI really hope so.04:14
freemindavagant: check dmesg for kernel detect of devices04:14
holycowavagant, so you can create the Desktop folder manually if you like, then serach for the missing stuff and put it back later04:15
holycowavagant, yeah its no big deal really04:15
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holycowavagant, your desktop folder wont have anything to do with your hd actually04:15
freemindholycow: what about madonna? do you like her?04:15
avagantNo my hd is mounted, but i put it in /media/hdb1 and it showed up on the desktop, and now it's not listing on the desktop.04:15
baxter_kylieHello everyone. Can anyone assist me in mounting a raid partition (mdadm)? Everytime I try to mount /dev/md0 I get a 'Function not implemented' error message.04:15
holycowavagant, your hd should should up under places anyway04:15
ChocoCidcan someone explain to me how Crossover Linux can use GPL software without being released under the GPL?04:15
holycowyour second hd anyway04:15
freemindbaxter_kylie: check your kernel for raid support04:16
avagantWell I hope it's alright :(04:16
holycowfreemind, *ew*04:16
darkauraholycow did you get that?04:16
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HateMSI have an Ubuntu partition that Windows messed up when it was installed and need to fix GRUB can someone plzzzz help04:16
holycowdarkaura, scrolling04:16
HateMS!grup04:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about grup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:16
HateMS!grub04:16
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:16
freemindbaxter_kylie: use "modprobe raid{number}"04:16
holycowHateMS, use the live cd to reinstall grub.  thats all04:16
HateMSholycow, i'm in the live CD but can't get it to work04:16
freemindI prefer LILO04:17
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freemindoldschool04:17
HateMSI really don't care how, I just wanna be able to get to my UB04:17
freemindlike you should also do, holycow04:17
darkauraor is my only way to fix it is to re-install Ubunu04:17
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holycowfreemind, oh i dun fink so04:17
holycowlol04:17
FaLc[ON] 2hi all04:17
holycowgimme grub or gimme death04:18
freemindok ;P04:18
freemindcan grub boot a kernel only one time?04:18
FaLc[ON] 2sorry guy can you help me with a little problem?04:18
freemindlike for remote handling, if you get kernel panic04:18
baxter_kyliefreemind: Just did the modprobe. Same error.04:18
freemindlilo can.04:18
THX-1138http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11162/   winmac_fstab.sh will find and mount available partitions04:18
ChocoCidhow do these two parts of the crossover linux license actually make sense together?04:18
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ChocoCidi thought if you used GPL stuff, you had to release your code under the GPL?04:18
ChocoCidhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/XYjMJU50.html04:18
baxter_kylieUsing the edgy beta 'generic' A64 kernel.04:18
JanKok5sethk, I put vga=ask at the end of the boot options line and it did ask... But still seem to have no gettys running. Here's something, ahem, "interesting": on the f2 console, there are some messages saying "Buffer I/O error on device hdc..." which is probably the CD drive I'm trying to run off of. What would cause that??04:18
freemindbaxter_kylie: then you are missing the raid module you need :) recompile your kernel with the needed module(s)04:18
HateMShow do I figure out my harddisk boot partition numbers04:18
holycowdarkaura, oh just search your system for anything with nvidia in it and delete it04:18
holycowdarkaura, installation only copies files to the right places04:19
holycowdarkaura, then do dpkg-reconfigure and select the nv driver there and restart x04:19
freemindbaxter_kylie: google for apt-get kernel-source + compile method04:19
holycowonce you are done that install the official stuff04:19
holycow!nvidia04:19
ChocoCid(is this the wrong place to ask about GPL stuff?)04:19
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:19
THX-1138avagant - take a look at the link above ^^^^^^^^^^04:19
holycowthats pretty much it04:19
sethkJanKok5, could be a lot of things.  trying to access using dma, when the device can't do dma properly comes to mind04:19
ChocoCid(if this is, where do i ask about GPL stuff?)04:19
freemind!cow04:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cow - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:19
mkyb14Comptuer question to anyone that might know... reinstalling on a dell that's not mine... upon plugging everything in it starts up for about 3 seconds and then shuts off... nothing on the LCD and no beeps... any clues?04:19
freemind!milk04:19
sethkJanKok5, see if there is a setting in the bios to force it to use IO mode (I think it will say PIO)04:19
raiXerchannel #suse04:19
darkauraholycow I had to uninstall all the restricted drivers in order to get the nvidia ones to work04:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about milk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:19
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baxter_kyliefreemind: oh ugh... that's no fun. So the egdy generic a64 doesn't have raid0 in it.04:20
avagantNo my drive is fine.04:20
freemindbaxter_kylie: seems so :(04:20
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HateMSI THINK my root is sda2, but how do I check04:20
baxter_kyliefreemind: Thanks just the same.04:20
deadly_venomWhat do I have to replace with $conffile ?04:20
holycowHateMS, i don't know the instructions to reinstalling grub from live cd, the instrucdtions are actually all over google as its a common thing04:20
freemindnp baxter_kylie04:20
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THX-1138freemind - aptitude ? aptitude has no super COW powers?04:20
ChocoCid!super grub disc04:20
ubotusuper: Execute commands setuid root. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.26.1-1 (dapper), package size 122 kB, installed size 852 kB04:20
ChocoCider04:20
holycowHateMS, google up some instructions should be something there usefull04:20
ChocoCid!grubdisk04:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about grubdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:20
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ChocoCidbleh04:20
HateMSholycow, I found some, its "sudo grub" in terminal04:20
ChocoCidhold on, i'll do it manually04:20
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freemindTHX-1138: never used it, is it so good?04:20
holycowHateMS, there ya go04:20
ChocoCidhttp://adrian15.raulete.net/grub/04:20
Jordanhas anyone had any experience with ATI's All in Wonder 2006 and ubuntu?04:21
HateMSchococid, yeah I made the super grub disc and was banking on that working but it didnt and now i'm ... censored word04:21
freemindholycow: what time is it over there04:21
ChocoCider04:21
ChocoCidtry it again?04:21
deadly_venomholycow: just curious, what should I replace with $conffile ?04:21
holycow7:21 pm and 35 seconds04:21
THX-1138freemind If it doesn't work you'll get double you money back. - seriously i use it all the time.04:21
HateMSholycow, but I need to find the harddisk/boot partiton numbers for my ubuntu partition, i'm not sure what they are04:21
holycowdeadly_venom, $conffile is where regarding what and how?04:21
ChocoCidhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows04:22
ChocoCidthere you go04:22
holycowhatems fdisk -l04:22
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holycowah thanks ChocoCid04:22
freemindTHX-1138: THX! :-) I'll try it04:22
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freemindTHX-1138: can do things like kernel recompile automated?04:22
ChocoCidi have a shortcut made in swiftfox for ubuntu wiki :P04:22
ChocoCid"u searchterm"04:22
ChocoCid:)04:22
deadly_venomholycow: Wireless ------------ sudo cat $conffile | sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' > $conffile04:22
Axe_what do I download for decoding mp3s04:22
holycowdeadly_venom, oh what are you doing exactly? i have never needed to do that04:23
freeminddeadly_venom: $conf.. means the path to file, or you export the variable first with a value04:23
ChocoCid!restrictedformats > Axe_04:23
holycowmind you i buy wireless cards known to work and just plug them in and turn them on04:23
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holycowlol, that sounds like a bad girlfriend joke04:23
holycow>_>04:23
THX-1138freemind - why work so hard ubuntu repositories provide a kernel for alsmost any occasion and at least many tastes "vanilla" is my favorite flavor.04:23
deadly_venomholycow: I need ndiswrapper for this pcmcia card, hehe.04:23
holycowoh IF ONLY it was THAT EASY04:23
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holycowlol04:23
SkramXhow do i get banshee to work?04:23
deadly_venomfreemind:  path to my .inf file ?04:23
SkramXhmm04:24
freeminddeadly_venom: thats holycow's turn..04:24
holycowdeadly_venom, oh i won't be able to help you with that bro, i never use ndiswrapper, sorry.  maybe someone else knows04:24
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freemindthere he goes ;)04:24
meatfacei have used ndiswrapper in the past04:24
deadly_venomholycow:  thanks for the help, thou - really appreciate it!04:24
darkaurabrb in about 20 min going to re install ubuntu04:24
deadly_venomfreemind:  anything you got to say ?04:24
holycowno probs04:24
freemindTHX-1138: using debian?04:24
holycowdarkaura, thats actually not a bad idea04:25
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meatfacehget04:25
freeminddeadly_venom: just that you seem to be using an unset variable named $conffile04:25
holycowdarkaura, it costs nothing and burning cds is cheap, its an easy way out04:25
SkramXat setup i forgot to put in a resolution which I want to use now... how do I add it?04:25
THX-1138holycow - my card works, i reboot and the reboot stops at "configuring network devices" - any suggestions?  (RaLink 2500 native driver)04:25
Tokenbadanyone know what this means?  Can't locate Xmms/Remote.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.7 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at (eval 3) line 1.04:25
Tokenbad BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 3) line 1.04:25
freemindSkramX: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:25
freemindSkramX: or better: dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg04:25
darkauraI got the cds shipped to me for free, so its no problems and with reinstall I can easally fix my problems04:26
THX-1138freemind - Ubuntu repos have most everything. if it's popular and GNU it's there.04:26
deadly_venomfreemind:  I figured, so, i was wondering if i have to substitute it with the path to my .inf files (wireless .inf file)04:26
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freeminddeadly_venom: just do "export conffile=/path/to"04:26
holycowTHX-1138, it usually means it cannot get a dhcp address you can press crtl / c to kill that during boot.  try static ip and check on your dhcp server04:26
freemindafter it rerun your line04:26
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HateMSholycow, sry back04:27
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freemindTHX-1138: i got same device, such problems with native driver, try turning off dhcp04:27
HateMSholycow, what do I run?04:27
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holycowHateMS, i completely forgot wher eyou were04:28
holycowor who you were04:28
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holycowwho are you again?04:28
holycow>_>04:28
HateMSGRUB guy holycow04:28
holycowoh heh04:28
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THX-1138holycow - i could hug you and plant a wet kiss on your forehead. - had to reinstall. didn't know the secret code. - (i won't kiss you though likely make my wife jealous.)04:28
holycowah like i said, i never had to reinstall grub ... someone posted a great link to how to do it tho04:28
HateMS!grub04:28
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:28
holycowTHX-1138, oh thank the effin gods !04:28
THX-1138'roflmao04:29
shwagI installed Dapper on my desktop. I have a ATI Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE] . Which video driver should I install. The default seems a bit buggy.04:29
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freemindlol THX-113804:29
holycow<ChocoCid> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows04:29
HateMSholycow, that was the one I had, i don't know the partition numbers or whatever04:29
holycowthank to chocodude04:29
sureshotTHX-1138 mine took me out for fahitas tonight mmmmmmm04:29
holycowoh04:29
holycowfdisk -l04:29
wickedpuppyHateMS, sudo fdisk -l04:29
freemind"plant a wet kiss on your forehead" <- lovely04:29
Tokenbadanyone know what this means?  Can't locate Xmms/Remote.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.7 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at (eval 3) line 1.04:29
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deadly_venomrebooting ... thank freemind04:29
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holycowTokenbad, it basically means xmms remote is borked and frankly that has never worked for me04:30
freemindTokenbad: let me think, cant locate means... dunno!04:30
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THX-1138sureshot - can you fax me a tortilla and some refired beans? - tuna casserole here;.04:30
holycowTokenbad, if i were you i would just forget xmms remote04:30
holycowinfact04:30
freemindnevermind04:30
holycowi would forget xmms entirely, there are much better players out there04:30
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Tokenbadwell trying to get a script in xchat to post the music playing to channel04:30
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sureshotTHX-1138 if there were anything left over hehehe we even had the double order04:30
w30Tokenbad, are you compiling something?04:30
freemindholycow: please answer my question: what time is it over there right now?04:30
HateMSI had seen the recovering ubuntu after windows link, but what does it mean "When UB splash comes up with boot: prompt, type in rescue"04:30
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Tokenbadw30, no..just trying to load a perl script in xchat04:31
holycowTokenbad, thats hardly anything we can help with :)  bug the person that wrote the scritpy, hehe04:31
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holycowfreemind, your like stuck in some mirror universe04:31
ChocoCid#xchat04:31
Tokenbadholycow, I was just wondering if it was something I needed to load to get it to work04:31
holycowyou aske a question, i answer it, thenyou ask it again04:31
holycowi am starting to suspect that you are your own doppleganger04:31
holycow<_<04:31
freemindholycow: i love you too04:31
MissLadyI installed Ubuntu on my HDD...I need help to config my USBcableModem... it worked fine and automatically with live-cd. So i did dmesg live-cd vs installation to compare what was different.I saw different things between both modes. Can anyone would help me please ?04:31
wickedpuppyfreemind, i remember a ctcp to get the time .. but i forgot04:31
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wickedpuppyit was in mirc04:32
wickedpuppyoh well04:32
holycow*whew*04:32
freemindwickedpuppy: thx for hint, forgot04:32
holycowwell you know, gotta keep an eye out04:32
freemindbut holycows client isnt responding04:32
holycowTokenbad, yeah hard to help with custom stuff like that04:32
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Tokenbadits /ctcp nick time04:32
Tokenbadto get time04:32
holycowfreemind, 7:32 and 38 seconds04:32
freemindi know04:32
freemindoh04:32
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holycowlast time you asked was at 7:23 and 46 seconds04:33
freemindLOL04:33
holycowwhen is the next time you are going to ask?04:33
freemindstop kidding me dude04:33
freemind=)04:33
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freemindwickedpuppy: where r u from?04:33
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sureshotholycow sounds like a valcun04:33
freemind4:33 am here04:33
wickedpuppywhois me and you will know04:33
sureshotor is it an on the end04:33
GoldKeeperi beleive i asked about this before but does ubuntu support xgl or aixgl ?04:33
HateMSmurrr04:33
freeminddunno what .sg is04:34
freemindsarajewo?04:34
Crippy-BoyGoldKeeper, yes04:34
wickedpuppylol04:34
GoldKeeperCrippy-Boy:  have you installed it before ?04:34
freemindj/k puppy04:34
sureshotGoldKeper both according to what vid card04:34
Crippy-BoyGoldKeeper, Nope, my laptop is a toaster, but i know you can04:34
freemindwickedpuppy: what is it?04:34
wickedpuppyfreemind, using xchat ? right click on my nick and see my country04:34
sureshot!xgl04:34
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems04:34
holycowGoldKeeper, there is no such thing in linux as 'DOES LINUX SUPPORT X'04:34
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holycowGoldKeeper, bascially if its written to run on linux its supported04:35
fickhow do i check what ver of ndiswrapper i have, my current version seems to be incompatible with my kernel04:35
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HateMSIs it possible to not have a "/boot"04:35
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wickedpuppyHateMS, yes04:35
holycowGoldKeeper, however, aiglx and xgl will both work on any linux, however xgl is hackery and shouldn't be used, while aiglx isn't exactly primetime ready04:35
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fickbtw i am currently running ubuntu in windows in vmware using recovery mode (so i have access to the net)04:35
holycowfick, apt-cache show ndiswrapperpackagename04:36
fluxinatorIs there a reason why I have a /dev/shm?04:36
THX-1138sureshot - xgl/compiz/beryl is *ALPHA* and painful to set up. - problems - substitute xcompmgr and transset. for transparency04:36
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Crippy-BoyLooks damned sexy though :P04:37
THX-1138"" AIGLX04:37
holycowbesides xgl is a dead end, no vid card manufacturer will ever support it and it wants to replace window managers like gnomes metacity04:37
holycowwhich i can guarantee gnome people are not happy about04:37
holycowaiglx is the future, but quite a while in the future04:37
holycowand i'm quite certain none of the other de projects thing glx wanting to replace their own window managers of choice04:38
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fluxinatoris there a reason why I have a /dev/shm04:38
holycowis a good thing at all04:38
Crippy-Boyid check em out IF my laptop wasnt a toaster and i could be bothered setting it up with an ATI card on my desktop04:38
sureshotTHX-1138 xgl and beryl works find here .. but i will look into xcompmgr later lol04:38
yarddogi appreciate the standard fglrx04:38
yarddogdual head04:38
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yarddognothing better imho04:38
freemindwickedpuppy: dont laugh: using mirc in winxp, emulation with vmware04:38
holycowthe only think i like about 3d accelerated desktops is that a) it makes sense given the technology and b) it makes even open office seem 'snappy' especially as it loads04:39
Crippy-Boyi wish it was possible to boycott hardware manufacturers04:39
THX-1138xcompmgr includes transparency - spinning cubes and wiggly windows got old.04:39
intangirhey people04:39
freemindhey intangir04:39
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freemindhow are you04:39
intangirhow do i install reiserFS support on ubuntu?04:39
holycowCrippy-Boy, it is, just buy stuff that is supported04:39
freemindintangir: modprobe reiserfs04:39
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fickmake: command not found ??????04:39
HateMSdoes anyone know much about GRUB, the guides aren't working04:39
Crippy-Boyholycow, its not just as easy as that04:39
holycowas freemind said, you either load the module manually or you plug in your reiser drive and the module gets loaded automatically04:39
wickedpuppyfick, get build-essential04:40
holycowCrippy-Boy, maybe, it is for me04:40
axel!GRUB04:40
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:40
wickedpuppybtw what are you compiling fick ?04:40
oxygene_fick: apt-get install build-essential04:40
fickthanx oxygene04:40
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Crippy-Boyfor you yeah, bit i game quite a bit, so there goes boycotting any decent vid card manufacturer04:40
intangirstill says the partition type is unknown04:41
holycowCrippy-Boy, well freedome requires sacrifices04:41
intangirfreemind: does it work with really old reisers?04:41
holycowCrippy-Boy, however there is more than one way to deal with it04:41
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Crippy-Boylol, not from me, im not about to give up half the reasons i own a pc just so said pc can be free.04:41
wickedpuppyholycow, are you a perl coder ?04:41
HateMSok this manual is a joke!!!04:41
holycowbeing active in your support of open source, favouring manufacturers that support it, complaining to the ones that don't, all of that helps04:41
harisundThere is a package called "linux-source-2.6.15" but I am running linux-2.6.15-27-686. How do I get the source of what I am currently running (and not a generic 2.6.15)?04:42
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holycowwickedpuppy, oh god no, perl is what they make you code when you go to hell04:42
holycow>_>04:42
Crippy-BoyIm a BIG supporter of Open source, but i cant just 'not use' anything thats not supported.04:42
wickedpuppyholycow, perl motto is there is more than one way to do it ...04:42
Crippy-Boyheh perl isnt too bad, then again i spent a couple of years coding in c04:42
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wickedpuppyah wrabbit^ .. any fresh problems for us ?04:42
JanKok5sethk, didn't find a BIOS setting for the CD drive called PIO. There was stuff about CHS and Large, but that doesn't sound like what youe meant. I ran a check on the CD, and it gave me a bunch more Buffer I/O errors when it apparently finished and Uncompressing Linux. Guess I'll try burning another copy of the ubuntu CD.04:43
holycowCrippy-Boy, well its up to you to decide what you want to do and how much.  the  nice thing about open source is you can't really get pidgeonholed.  you can be a cherry picker all the way down to a kernel hacker ... all up to you04:43
holycowwickedpuppy, indeedy :) perls greatest strength and greatest weakness04:43
holycowwickedpuppy, i never understood how anyone can manage to learn perl considering there are 10 billio nways to do everything :)04:43
wrabbit^wickedpuppy, thankfully none :) After the resinstall yesterday, all has been good.  Got everything running without automatix and I'm very glad04:43
wickedpuppyholycow, no no ... ah you didn't get my joke :P04:43
yarddogJanKok5, order them for free04:43
Crippy-Boyholycow, yup, im going to start supporting a few projects (submitting patches etc), but its just the hardware side im going to find difficult04:43
harisundanybody knows how I can get the source of 2.6.15-27-686? The source for this kernel doesn't seem to be in the repos?04:43
Crippy-BoyChoice between Nvidia and ATI, only choice is go with the lesser evil04:44
yarddogharisund, linux-68604:44
holycowwickedpuppy, quite possible, i am quite dense04:44
holycowhehe :)04:44
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wrabbit^I even got my bandwidth shaping all setup with wondershaper04:44
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harisundyarddog which package do I need to install to get the *source* so I can recompile?04:44
wrabbit^very cool and simple command line shaper04:44
JanKok5yarddog, yeah, but I wan't something right now :-)04:44
wickedpuppyholycow, Crippy-Boy, however there is more than one way to deal with it <-- that was your line :P04:44
wickedpuppywrabbit^, great job :P04:45
yarddogharisund, why not use the stock kernel? why compile?04:45
yarddogJanKok5, :(04:45
holycowyarddog, good qeustion04:45
freemindholycow04:45
sethkharisund, if the source hasn't made it to the repos yet, nothing you can do, really.04:45
ChocoCidbecause he's using gentoo?04:45
freemindwhats going on?04:45
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ChocoCider... >_>04:45
freemind:-)04:45
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holycowharisund, you do know that the debian/ubuntu kernels are entirely modular? they only load what they need, right?04:46
ChocoCid(couldn't help myself)04:46
holycowand on the fly04:46
GoldKeeperanyone keep getting XML Parsing Error: not well-formed <--- theese sorts of popup errors in firefox ?04:46
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holycowfreemind, watching this dude play through a splawn amp --> http://youtube.com/watch?v=u_DFsM-w-xw04:46
harisundyarddog, sethk and holycow the reason I want to compile my kernel is because I want to use ROPE (a programming language for packet filtering, which is done at the kernel level)04:46
holycowharisund, ah! cool!04:46
holycowthat would be the right reason to do so indeed :)04:47
sethkharisund, you don't need to appologise for compiling the kernel.   many people don't understand that it is often necessary, but you can't worry about that.04:47
Crippy-Boyjust use a vanilla kernel :-)04:47
holycowwhat seth said04:47
sethkharisund, also, that the modular nature of the kernel is good for the distro people, but bad for the end user04:47
holycowwell thats wrong04:47
harisundsethk, hehe.. not apologizing.. the thing is I knew Ubuntu was meant to be for new users, but didn't think the support channel would be so discouraging to someone who knew what they were doing :( .. t04:48
holycowits actually GREAT for users04:48
oxygene_what's so bad about it for end users?04:48
sethkharisund, by the way, Crippy-Boy may have been kidding but the first thing I do is replace it with the kernel.org kernel.04:48
holycowots just not great for SOME USERS04:48
sethkoxygene_, creates the need for initrd file systems.04:48
harisundsethk, ah.. makes sense...04:48
holycowwhat you should NEVER do is what seth does04:48
holycowlol04:48
holycowthats just stupid :)04:48
Crippy-Boysethk, Nope i wasnt kidding, I have a vanilla kernel running04:48
harisundbesides ChocoCid is right .. I have used Gentoo.. just prefer Ubuntu for its ease... I always recompile what I want .. just not *everything*04:48
freemindholycow04:48
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freemindwas very nice to meet you04:49
holycowno offense bro but taking a modular kernel and rolling your own makes no sense except in outside use cases like harisunds maybe04:49
freemindgood bye :) im going to sleep04:49
holycowfreemind, later04:49
sethkCrippy-Boy, me also.04:49
oxygene_never had any problems with initrd... probably because the distri always did it for me04:49
fickgrr... whats the shell command to rename a directory04:49
freemind4:49 am here04:49
freemindfyi04:49
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sethkholycow, if you say so.  Since I'm a kernel and device driver developer, I guess my perspective is a bit different.04:49
deltabfick: mv04:49
oxygene_fick you rename by moving04:49
ChocoCidi thought debian was targeted for developers and ubuntu to the end user?04:49
holycowsethk, aha! well i bow before your greatness then :)04:50
holycowlol04:50
holycowrarely do i meet a kernel hacker04:50
sethkholycow, how many bows?  :)04:50
indigo_ChocoCid, what kind of developer? :_004:50
holycowdude as many as it takes :) lol04:50
ChocoCiduh... any?04:50
harisundChocoCid, in a way yes... but that doesn't mean you can't be a kernel hacker or a developer using Ubuntu as well..04:50
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Brydenn33how do i change file association with .mp3's? I don't want Amarok to be used anymore. I want XMMS to be used04:50
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ChocoCidsure, but i thought debian was "better" for developers, in general?04:50
sethkChocoCid, I don't agree with that04:50
holycowsethk, debians greatest feature imho is its modular kernel04:50
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harisundChocoCid, somehow .. ubuntu has a rep of being a distro meant for 'newbies' and so on... you can do anything on one linux distro that you can on another... atleast that's my opinoi04:50
ChocoCidi've never used Debian, but i just thought that was the general intent of both distros04:51
sethkholycow, the modular kernel has nothing to do with any distro.04:51
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holycowthat alone allows a noob to really not haveto learn anythiing but just plug stuff in and use it04:51
sethkholycow, the kernel is the same on all distros.04:51
indigobluChocoCid, mmm im fairly new to Debian (long time Gentoo user) but i dont see much difference other than packaging04:51
ChocoCidharisund : i'm AWARE of that, but i'm referring to the target of the user04:51
ChocoCid*system04:51
ChocoCid*distro04:51
ChocoCidblarg04:51
JordanHas anyone here had any experience with ubuntu and ATI All in Wonders? Does the tv tuner work easily?04:51
holycowsethk, maybe now04:51
sethkindigoblu, there isn't any04:51
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holycowthere was a time when this wasn't so of course04:51
fickgreat .... ran make uninstall for ndiswrapper and it trys to remove /lib/modules/2.******/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper (wont its a directory)04:51
ChocoCiduh, do sudo apt-get remove ?04:52
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MissLadyI installed Ubuntu on my HDD...I need help to config my USBcableModem... it worked fine and automatically with live-cd. So i did dmesg live-cd vs installation to compare what was different.I saw different things between both modes. Can anyone would help me please ?04:52
sethkJordan, I found that the all in wonder didn't work worth a damn even in windows, let alone other envs.04:52
indigobluholycow, Linux kernel is general....do you mean Ubuntu does modules for everything where Debian you must staticly compile?04:52
harisundsethk and holycow there's a package called linux-source-2.6.15 which puts a source.tar.bz2 file in /usr/src (standard kernel source path) .. but I want to know if it is the 2.6.15-27 source or something else?04:52
sethkMissLady, on the live cd, do lsmod, and write down the modules that are in use.04:52
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sidny4ok, what all did I miss?04:52
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sethkharisund, it's the source for the kernel package with the same number (that is, 2.6.15).04:53
holycowindigoblu, no, ubuntu and debian have a totally modular kernel, now seth says that is true of other distros but then i've used debian now for many years so maybe that is the case now04:53
oxygene_what harisund asks for is something I'd like to know, too04:53
sethkharisund, the minor numbers should match up.04:53
JordanAny recomendations for a budget priced card? My Radeon 9500 finally kicked the bucket04:53
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spuddoggWhassup everyone04:53
david_can someone point me to the repository that has the version that works with ubuntu?04:53
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holycowharisund, i'll let seth answer the kernel stuff considering what he does :)04:53
sethkdavid_, version of what?04:53
sidny4question: dual monitors on an nvidia geforce 7600. I'm currently using TwinView, is there a better way?04:53
david_can someone point me to the repository that has the frostwire version that works with ubuntu?04:53
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MissLadysethk i did lsmod and installed modules who's missing and reboot but nothing worked so i did dmesg to compare and i see now errors in installation04:54
david_sorry, i was thinking faster than i was typing04:54
harisundsethk, what do you mean by match up?04:54
harisund!kernel04:54
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild04:54
fickdamn it, all was going fine until i let ubuntu upgrade itself to drapper04:54
sethkMissLady, you are ahead of me.  :)04:54
THX-1138sethk - no kidding, all-in-wonder was dog slow. took 100mbs of setup files and just plain didn't work as advertised. - ati is second rate.04:54
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harisundsethk, sorry .. the !kernel output is pretty helpful.. I got most of what I want :)04:54
sethkMissLady, I didn't mean to imply that dmesg wasn't a good thing to do, just that lsmod provides useful info also04:54
sidny4david_ you can download the ubuntu/debian version from the frostwire website04:54
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spuddoggfick, are there normally problems upgrading?04:55
Rulzernis there a channel for edgy problems?04:55
Rulzernon the user end? :p04:55
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ChocoCid#ubuntu+104:55
david_i tried that but everytime i ran it it would freeze on me04:55
MissLadynp sethk04:55
ferossany ops here are ops in ubuntu-es.. can I get unbanned please?04:55
Rulzernthanks :)04:55
sethkMissLady, when you say errors in installation, what do you mean specifically?04:55
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ghostshadow189hi all , i installed icewm with "sudo apt-get install icewm iceconf iceme" . after that , i loged out and choosed icewm session . but unfornately , it didnt display anything , like toolbar , start menu , etc . it just displayed a blue desktop  . i also tried ctrl+alt+esc and i saw window list , so that mean maybe i installed icewm successfully , but still there're some mistake ?04:55
sidny4did you receive any error message?04:55
fickspudddog, i just started using ubuntu, last night after someone helped me get my broadcom wireless card in my laptop working04:55
fickusing ndiswrapper, iwconfig and the like04:56
ChocoCidsomeone in here with +o access: please put #ubuntu+1 in the topic for edgy questions :)04:56
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MissLadysethk USB HC takeover failed! (BIOS/SMM bug)04:56
spuddoggfick:  gotcha.  i was going to ask you about upgrading to edgy when it comes out, but n/m :)04:56
seamus7hello all.. I have a partition mounted as a directory in / ...... I now realize it would be more convenient to have it mounted in my /home or /home/'user' directory .... can anyone help ... I have a feeling it's a simple process .... thanks04:56
holycowthere is no point, edgy will be released soon04:56
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david_sidny ru asking me? if so, no04:56
sethkMissLady, hmm, that's nasty.04:56
MissLadysethk 0000:00:01.2: Can't reset04:57
THX-1138fick - if you have trouble "configuring network devices" CTRL+C to continue booting. -04:57
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sidny4yeah, ok04:57
sidny4hmm04:57
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THX-1138Hi cafuego04:57
holycowlol, you guys realize you have a kernel hacker answering module questions?04:57
holycowat last you get some reliable advice :)04:57
fickedgy? oh dear, dosent sound like a nice release :)04:57
holycowlol04:57
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MissLadysethk ohci_hcd 0000:00:01.2: init 0000:00:01.2 fail, -1604:57
MissLadyohci_hcd: probe of 0000:00:01.2 failed with error -1604:57
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sethkMissLady, you might try unloading and reloading the main usb module, which might be uhci04:57
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sidny4david_ does it lock up the whole system04:57
SpudDoggfick: you dont like what you see with edgy?04:57
Fackamatowhich is the edgy eft channel?04:57
ficki dont like the name :)04:58
THX-1138fick - warty warthog the first release was feared. - lol04:58
SpudDoggfick: i see, lol.04:58
MissLadysethk ok but how to unload ?04:58
sethkMissLady, rmmod04:58
oxygene_Fackamato, #ubuntu+104:58
sethkMissLady, it won't let you unload, without unloading things that depend on it first.04:58
Crippy-Boyi can just immagine that, talking to a tutor04:58
Crippy-Boy'i have warty'04:58
Fackamatooxygene_: thanks04:58
sethkMissLady, so you would have to rmmod a bunch of stuff.04:58
Crippy-BoyI have a feeling the response would envolve 'doctor'04:58
fickit reminds me of how i feel everytime i let a linux distrubution update itself.......and as usual that feeling was warranted04:59
pike_seamus7: what sort of partition is it? ntfs, fat32?04:59
gtlis there a ubuntu64 channel?04:59
ghostshadow189hi all , i installed icewm with "sudo apt-get install icewm iceconf iceme" . after that , i loged out and choosed icewm session . but unfornately , it didnt display anything , like toolbar , start menu , etc . it just displayed a blue desktop  . i also tried ctrl+alt+esc and i saw window list , so that mean maybe i installed icewm successfully , but still there're some mistake ?04:59
THX-1138Crippy-Boy: yes, me too. (wipes the shiny silver drink coaster dry.)04:59
seamus7pike_:ext304:59
MissLadysethk: k thx :)04:59
fickhence, which is why i am now sadly in xp.....04:59
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sethkMissLady, you might do a considerable amount of work and end up back exactly where you are at this moment04:59
david_no, not the whole system. Just that program. I use xkill to shut it down04:59
holycowfick, lol04:59
pike_seamus7: ah. right now does it automount on bootup?04:59
sethkMissLady, it's worth trying, but it isn't odds on.04:59
holycowfick, you need a sense of humour first :)  its just a name04:59
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HateMS!grub05:00
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:00
holycowwhenever i think 'micorosfot windows xp' i just get chills at how lifeless that corporate crap is05:00
SpudDoggWhat IRC client is everyone using?05:00
unfknblvblgaim05:00
ChocoCidxchat05:00
oxygene_dito05:00
Crippy-Boyxp is good, infact all os's are good05:00
david_konversation05:00
THX-1138holycow - onthenet pro home version05:00
seamus7sethk: i have two hard drives .... all ext3 ... one partition / ... one partition /home ....  and then this one as a directory under / .... yes they all automount05:00
ficki was hoping to switch, due to the fact that i dont really trust windows xp..... but it seems that all these update managers have a habit of making linux distrubutions more unstable than xp....05:00
elkbuntu!windows05:00
ubotuFor help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm05:00
SpudDoggHas anyone ever used irssi?05:00
holycowas for upgrading a distro ... well ya know i've yet to see any proprietary upgrade path that was remotely close to workeable05:00
ChocoCid<Crippy-Boy> xp is good, infact all os's are good  <-- windows ME says no05:01
unfknblvblhaha05:01
ChocoCidi've used irssi05:01
holycowall os's are NOT good heh05:01
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ghostshadow189s1 help me pls , i installed icewm with "sudo apt-get install icewm iceconf iceme" . after that , i loged out and choosed icewm session . but unfornately , it didnt display anything , like toolbar , start menu , etc . it just displayed a blue desktop  . i also tried ctrl+alt+esc and i saw window list , so that mean maybe i installed icewm successfully , but still there're some mistake ?05:01
Crippy-BoyOs's create competition for each other and bring innovations which benifits us (the end user)05:01
ChocoCidXP is fine, really05:01
holycowsome are better at some things than others but man, winders needs to be rewritten from scratch05:01
elkbuntucan this OS comparison discussion please go elsewhere?05:01
ficki really dont like xp but at least when it updates, itself i know it will reboot and come up working05:01
pike_seamus7: if they are automounting all you should have to do is sudo gedit /etc/fstab and change the mount point to whatever directory you've made under /home05:01
seamus7pike_: oops I used the wrong nick there ... sorry05:02
holycowfick, actually i have the opposite experience with xp05:02
ficknow, xp is not fine05:02
ChocoCidXP was actually a large leap forward, but vista looks to be going the other way05:02
fickno, xp is not fine05:02
holycowfick i run several hunder machines we actually DON'T UPDATE05:02
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ChocoCidwell, ok, xp has drm issues and stuff, and it's not free05:02
holycowi cannot tell you how many times an xp update has borked the entire install05:02
fickxp is something i run with a certain amount of paranoia05:02
holycowits infact total shit05:02
THX-1138SpudDogg: Yes, occasionally google irssi help-full.html05:02
yarddog!offtopic05:02
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!05:02
holycowfor something that we paid for05:02
SpudDoggChocoCid: free is always good :)05:02
seamus7pike_: so it's no problem to mount one partition in a directory within a separate partition?05:02
pike_seamus7: nope05:03
fickwhereas a update soultion is a linux distrubtion seems like utter suicide05:03
Crippy-Boyjeez, and people still refuse to contemplate how competition between os's benefit everyone, sad times :(05:03
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holycowon the other hand with linux, i can GUARANTEE it will come up .. .notably because i know that even if there is a problem i can actually fix it instead of try and search for the latest weirdass patch and hotfix from a company that cannot get their head out of their ass05:03
ficki mean in a linux distrubtion05:03
ChocoCidsure, but i'd rather get a computer with XP preinstalled than a computer with, uh, pretty much any other windows install :P05:03
seamus7pike_: thanks i'll give it a go.05:03
holycowChocoCid, thats not saying much05:03
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holycowyou can get crap in a bag or crap in a box, crap in a box is still crap05:03
ficki just let ubuntu update itself from badger to drapper...and now ndiswrapper donsent work05:03
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holycowfick, lol dude05:04
holycowfick, try this comparison then?05:04
holycowtake win98 and upgrade that to 2000 using an upgrade dis05:04
holycowor05:04
DBOholycow, fick, you guys are getting off topic05:04
Crippy-Boyholycow, if there was only 1 os, where do you think we'd be now?05:04
holycowupgrade win2k to winxp using an upgrade disk05:04
DBOjoin #ubuntu-offtopic please =)05:04
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holycowor when vista comes out I DARE YOU to upgrade from your xp05:04
oxygene_fick, try upgrading to edgy, maybe it'll start working again ;)05:04
holycowi dare you05:04
holycow*cough*05:04
ChocoCidCrippy-Boy : using linux with 300 distros, like today05:04
asdefhi there, excuseme, how do i compile things using gcc-3.4 instead than default one ?05:04
holycowif you think one shitty little driver interface is too big for you to handle05:04
Crippy-Boyholycow, MS is a shit company with shit business models, but they bring alot to the table for others, as do others with ms05:05
holycowoh boy, you really don't know what you hav ecomming :)05:05
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holycowhehe05:05
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:05
ficki then downloaded the latest version and found that make uninstall script dosent work05:05
sidny4fick, is it a broadcomm adapter?05:05
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HateMSok I need ANY grub help, this is freaking retarded05:05
fickbtw my cd drive on my laptop is DEAD, so i can burn iso's05:05
asdefhi there, excuseme, how do i compile things using gcc-3.4 instead than default one ?05:05
holycowCrippy-Boy, well you can look at the ms glass as half full, i cannot but look at it as half empty considering all the bad things they do behind the scenes05:05
THX-1138FOSS competition forced an early release of ie705:05
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ficki can only access the hd from within vmware05:05
yarddog!ops05:05
ubotuHelp! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!05:05
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SpudDoggHateMS: what's goin on man?05:05
Se7hcould some one help me on the webcam ?05:05
DBOyarddog?05:05
Se7h(edgy)05:06
holycowfick, its perfectly cool if you like windows and want to use it.  i'm not bashing you at all dude :)05:06
Madpilotyarddog?05:06
sidny4fick, is it a broadcomm adapter?05:06
yarddogDBO, offtopic, language abuse05:06
asdefhi there, excuseme, how do i compile things using gcc-3.4 instead than default one ?05:06
Crippy-Boyholycow, and the good things?05:06
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DBOholycow, please stop the offtopic conversation, you too Crippy-Boy05:06
HateMSspuddogg, put Vista on, took GRUB out of MBR, now i've been going through every way I can find to get GRUB back and nothings working05:06
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holycowfick, i really think that you don't have a proper frame of reference and enough experience to conclude that upgrading a distro is hard and upgrading windows is easy :)05:06
ficki wish that linux-distrubtions had a sort of vmware mode, so you could load your linux in windows without screwing up your X Settings etc....05:06
asdefhi there, excuseme, how do i compile things using gcc-3.4 instead than default one ?05:06
Tokenbadholycow, found xchat plugin that works for posting now playing in xmms...thanks for your help05:06
Crippy-BoyIm not saying its great and we should all switch, i just think the more os competition there is the more new shiny toys we have.05:06
holycowTokenbad, no prob05:06
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SpudDoggHateMS: well, you can add and remove things from your grub menu at /boot/grub/menu.lst    maybe you just need to add your Vista MBR there?05:07
holycowfick, what does that questio neven mean?05:07
Tokenbadalso installed the xchat-xsys plugin..that one is cool05:07
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asdefhi there, excuseme, how do i compile things using gcc-3.4 instead than default one ?05:07
oxygene_asdef: well, use the gcc-3.4 binary05:07
pike_fick: heh you could run everyting in vservers05:07
holycowyou can instlal linux on vmware on top of windows of course so ... ?05:07
ghostshadow189hi all , i installed icewm with "sudo apt-get install icewm iceconf iceme" . after that , i loged out and choosed icewm session . but unfornately , it didnt display anything , like toolbar , start menu , etc . it just displayed a blue desktop  . i also tried ctrl+alt+esc and i saw window list , so that mean maybe i installed icewm successfully , but still there're some mistake ?05:07
HateMSspuddogg, booting into Vista isnt the problem, it boots in there automatically, I want to be able to get into Ubuntu05:07
oxygene_or set the CC environment variable to the apropriate path05:07
THX-1138Okay, all interested in windows chat move to #ubuntu-off topic and take a drink each time someone says trojan05:07
HateMSspuddogg, i'm in the live cd now05:07
asdefoxygene_: i've both gcc-4.0 and gcc-3.4 installed05:07
darkauraholycow ubuntu installs the 386 kernel by default I run a intel pentium m 2 ghz is there any benifit in installing the 686 kernel?05:08
asdefoxygene_: but when i compile things, it uses gcc-4.005:08
Crippy-BoyHateMS, boot to the live cd and do a grub-install05:08
FAERRLUQaguante ubuntu!05:08
fickhmm, you know i was hoping to run windows in linux instead of the other way around :)05:08
SpudDoggHateMS: I also have learned that it helps exponentially to install your Ubuntu last...it seems to be really nice to other os's mbr.  How to manage grub from Windows, I have NO idea at all.05:08
ghostshadow189s1 help me pls05:08
ghostshadow189hi all , i installed icewm with "sudo apt-get install icewm iceconf iceme" . after that , i loged out and choosed icewm session . but unfornately , it didnt display anything , like toolbar , start menu , etc . it just displayed a blue desktop  . i also tried ctrl+alt+esc and i saw window list , so that mean maybe i installed icewm successfully , but still there're some mistake ?05:08
holycowdarkaura, yes, it can access maximum ram available for your system, 386 can only acces 786 megs ram05:08
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FAERRLUQwho speak spanish?????!!!!!05:08
holycowfick, you can, vmware again05:08
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harisundCan someone tell me what's the latest kernel in the repos right now for the 2.6.15 kernel?05:08
Madpilot!es05:08
holycow!es05:08
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.05:08
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harisundI mean, the minor version number?05:08
oxygene_asdef,  a lot of makefiles read the CC or CXX environment variable05:08
FAERRLUQgracias05:09
darkauraokay I got a fresh install of ubuntu how would I go about installing the 686 kernel05:09
fickthis is what i get for having one of those broadcom bcm4318 cards05:09
Madpilotharisund, looks like 2.6.15-27-38605:09
holycowde nada05:09
HateMSspuddogg, yeah I have, i've used Ubuntu about a year and always put it on last when I was doing that, but I took XP off and put Vista (while leaving ubuntu) which is why05:09
holycowdarkaura, apt-cache search kernel 68605:09
sidny4vmware works pretty well if you want to run one Os within another OS, problem is that it eats ram05:09
harisundMadpilot, ah ok .. the Ubuntu wiki says 2.6.17 is in the repos, but I coulnd't find it (atleast not in the official repos)05:09
holycowinstall the one that looks right for your system05:09
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sidny4for breakfast05:09
asdefoxygene_: thanks05:09
asdefoxygene_: i'm trying to compile L4/Iguana, it uses 'scons' instead of make05:09
oxygene_asdef: it depends on what you want to compile05:09
Se7hcould some one help me on the webcam ? (edgy)05:09
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HateMSspuddogg, I ran grub-install, now what05:10
THX-1138!webcam05:10
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras05:10
SpudDoggfick: have you installed ndisgtk for the handy GUI for ndiswrapper?05:10
asdefi successfully compiled it on a debian at univ, but i'm failing here on ubuntu05:10
oxygene_asdef: you could always change the /usr/bin/gcc-symlink05:10
asdefbecause the gcc version is too advanced05:10
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craigbass1976I've looked aroudn the desktop for a couple days now and can't find how to shut off the login sound in KDE.  I stopped the drum at the login screen, but not the sound that palys once KDE is finished firing up.  Anyone know how?05:10
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oxygene_asdef, but I wouln't do it without trying the other things first05:10
fickeek, i may disconnect due to war-roaming :)05:10
SpudDoggHateMS: i have no idea man...i only know how to add things to the list, really.  you said before that you needed ANY grub help.  sorry i couldnt be more help to you.05:11
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holycowcraigbass1976, #kubuntu might be a good place to try also, they are kden fanatics05:11
HateMSspuddogg, well what did grub-install just do, I just ran it and it did something and then closed05:11
holycowfick, i will add one last thing to what you said05:11
asdefoxygene_: if i remember well there's a script that changes the default gcc version05:11
craigbass1976holycow, Ahh, didn't realize there was a special room.05:11
asdefbut i don't remember it05:11
holycowfick, you are totally right in feeling what you feel right now, its all cool05:12
SpudDoggHateMS: honestly, i have no idea05:12
SpudDoggHateMS: brb05:12
darkauracan I install the new kernel through Synaptic Package Manager05:12
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HateMSMy Ubuntu partition is lost foreverrrr!05:12
THX-1138darkaura: yes05:12
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fickthank you, mr psycologist, get you help me some drugs from mr. pharmacist :)05:12
holycowfick, but from experience in coaching people into linux world, i have noticed that once you learn why things are the way they are, one you kinda 'get it' you cannot go back to ms, in comparison its just a piece of junk05:12
pike_darkaura: you can just type sudo apt-get install linux-image-686 if you want05:12
holycowfick, maybe one day :) were here to help if you wanna muck about05:12
ChocoCidholycow :  correct you are05:12
dreamhow do i get ubuntu to recognize my printer. i tried add printer and it doesnt recognize it05:13
fickholycow, i been coming back to linux for years05:13
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asdefoxygene_: gcc-config maybe05:13
fickholycow, i feel that if my cd drive wasnt dead on my laptop, this would be a lot easier05:13
holycowfick, sure, maybe one day we will have 'linux ready hardware' wher eyou can go down to the store and buy a system preinstalled for you and certified05:13
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holycowfick, maybe one day we will have enough clout to get that going, so that when you dist upgrade you don't haveto fight  with proprietary drivers05:13
THX-1138compare the simplicity of adding themes to Ubuntu with a redmond WA adware filled windowblinds05:14
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oxygene_asdef, I don't know gcc-config. but ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc will do it, too05:14
fickholycow: i get the feeling that ms themselves are to blame for the lack of drivers for linux.....( well i suspect)05:14
ferossdream: tried the printer util under system>admin>printing?05:14
holycowfick, for now perhaps we can't live up to your requirements and thats cool too, hard to make everyone happy but i'll try to answer question anyway05:14
darkauraits probibly best for me to install the new kernel before I install the Ubuntu Nvidia drivers right?05:14
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holycowfick, in so much as hardware manufacturers have  been trained to be lazy and selfish yes05:14
dreamyes feross i did05:14
ChocoCidwell05:14
ChocoCidi think ms probably gives them a kickback05:15
SkramXat setup i forgot to put in a resolution which I want to use now... how do I add it?05:15
dreamfeross i am restarting the computer cause hoping maybe it will recognize the printer05:15
THX-1138feross: Did you select "smb" windows printer?05:15
holycowfick, the  unfortunate sideffect of ms dominance is that consumers are also trained to think wrong about computers05:15
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sidny4is twinview the only way to use dual monitors on an nvidia card?05:15
pike_darkaura: if you install nivida from repos do it however you want but if you use the nvidia.sh install then yes05:15
THX-1138nvm05:15
THX-1138!xinerama05:15
ferossdream: is it an hp printer, there's a util specific for hp's.05:15
ubotuxinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo05:15
fickbasically, at the end of the day....linux will have a much better chance of kicking windows arse when it updates work better.....05:15
holycowconsumers now think of computers like products like toasters.  a computer isn't a product its a process.  consumers need to understand that they haveto manage a process they cannot buy a computer like a toaster05:15
fickand i hope it is very soon......05:15
holycowbut oh well thats now, tommorrow is another day05:15
darkaurasorry I just want to get this right this time05:15
dreamfeross, its a brother printer05:15
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Unitywhats the idea with ALSA? total linux newbie over here, i remember i install ubuntu before and no sound worked at all, then went to install realtek driver and it didn't seem to work, summin to do with ALSA or something, but on this install it all seems to work automatically, & says shutting down alsa when i shut down, so not really sure, oh well, lol.05:16
elkbuntufick, holycow **** can the offtopic talk PLEASE go to #ubuntu-offtopic, or given the subject of your discussion atm, to ##off-topic ****05:16
holycowsidny4, now you can use xinerama but twinview with nvidia is far better05:16
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fickelkbuntu...is that a bot......05:16
elkbuntufick, no05:16
darkaurabrb05:16
deadly_venomholycow:  I've got last question. Whenever I plug my usb hdd into my  Ubuntu, The motor of my hdd is running BUT it doesn't show in my Ubuntu Desktop, any idea ?05:16
sidny4ok05:16
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ferossdream: ok, well that could be a chore. You might have to just use a lexmark or hp driver. anything on G about that?05:16
elkbuntufick, but various people have said this to you all about a dozen times, and you've ignored every instance05:16
holycowi beg to differ, elkbuntu is some very clever ai05:17
fickit seems everytime i am critical of windoze, i get some crap from elkbuntu......05:17
holycowi bet elkbuntu is written in lisp05:17
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THX-1138holycow - has good advice twinview creates two seperate spaces. xinerama one wide desk05:17
sidny4deadly_venom, you probably have to mount the drive05:17
holycow>_<05:17
ficki mean am critical of linux05:17
elkbuntufick, holycow. grow up, and take the talk out of the SUPPORT channel05:17
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holycowfick, absolutely, that is its greatest strength05:17
fickno, elk only you have said it multiple times05:17
sidny4how do you mean two separate spaces?05:17
elkbuntuthis is a support channel, not a random discussion channel05:17
deadly_venomsidny4: How do I know if it's /dev/sda6 or /dev/sda5 ?05:17
anon32how do I change my MTU?05:17
fickby discussing issues with ubantu, we will spawn support questions and maybe even solutions .....05:18
hondjeanon32: sudo ifconfig mtu #, where # is the MTU05:18
Gierkeanyone wanna help me install ndiswrapper from source :(05:18
holycowelkbuntu, i challenge your definition of tech support05:18
sidny4deadly_venom, it could be either one, try mounting both and see if you can access it05:18
holycowi submit that everything i've said so far actualy IS UBUNTU SUPPORT05:18
elkbuntufick, all you're doing is making alot of other stuff that the confused people here have to wade through to find answers to the questions they asked05:19
Madpilotfick, holycow - drop it. Last warning: Off topic chat goes to #ubuntu-offtopic or another channel. Not, repeat not, here.05:19
fickgierke....good luck i just tried05:19
deadly_venomsidny4:  that was just an example, what if it was IDE HDD .. and if it was /dev/hda4/5/6/7/8/9 ;s05:19
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anon32no such device05:19
holycowframing specific issues in a general perspective sometimes helps users to picture how this stuff works05:19
holycowMadpilot, go away, i'm not really interested in what you haveto say05:19
yarddog!ops05:19
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hondjeanon32: maybe ifconfig eth0 mtu # then05:20
sidny4ide is hda, usb, scsi, SATA is usually sda05:20
ghostshadow189s1 help me pls , i installed icewm with "sudo apt-get install icewm iceconf iceme" . after that , i loged out and choosed icewm session . but unfornately , it didnt display anything , like toolbar , start menu , etc . it just displayed a blue desktop  . i also tried ctrl+alt+esc and i saw window list , so that mean maybe i installed icewm successfully , but still there're some mistake ?05:20
fickyou know thats funny,,,, ndiswrapper problems are what bought me here05:20
darkaura10 min for updates to take place then I can install video card properly05:20
anon32hondje, that's better05:20
sidny4if it's the only usb, scsi, or SATA, it should be sda105:20
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elkbuntufick, then discuss ndiswrapper, not MS philosophy or other tangents05:20
Amaranthsidny4: It's much less confusing in edgy, everything is s<something>05:20
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anon32whoa, this wallpaper from Wikipedia rules (yea, kinda a newbie comment)05:20
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sidny4ic, I haven't tried edgy yet05:21
Amaranthanon32: The tree?05:21
fickby discussing my issues with how it came about, i am violating the rules, intresting......maybe if i was a good little linux user and was critcal of it as well as windows you would not be complaining...bye05:21
ficki find another dist.05:21
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Amaranthsidny4: My cdrom drive is scd0, for example.05:21
oxygene_lol05:21
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deadly_venomsidny4: First i would create a mount point, by typing -> sudo /mnt/usb ... next, i would mount the driver (Assuming it's sda1),, then i would type mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb , correct?05:21
anon32Amaranth, no... it's from Wikipedia05:21
hondjedeadly_venom: You'd want a mkdir in there I think :)05:21
SkramXhow do I add more resolution options?05:21
SkramX*shrug*05:21
Amaranth!fixres05:22
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:22
deadly_venomhondje: oh ya, sorry! Thanks.05:22
sidny4yeah, sudo mkdir /mnt/usb05:22
hondje:-)05:22
SkramXAmaranth: thanks05:22
anon32http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Alpamayo.jpg05:22
SkramXill loook at that05:22
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SkramXthanks05:22
deadly_venomsidny4: But my usb hdd isn't ntfs, and it's fat32 .. still go with vfat ?05:22
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Amaranthanon32: ah, nice05:22
anon32too bad that place'll be gone in a year because of global warming05:22
hondjevfat for fat32, ntfs for NTFS :)05:23
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sidny4yeah, maybe try it without the vfat, justt mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb and if that doesn't work throw in the vfat05:23
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sidny4sometimes it'll pick up the partition type automatically05:23
anon32which may take a while since I'm on dialup05:23
ConstyDo most with a AMD64 run the 64 bit version of Ubuntu, or do they run the 32 bit because of problems ?05:23
ghostshadow189hi all , i've an error when i click on show desktop button , it told me error : Your window manager does not support the show desktop button, or you are not running a window manager.05:23
harisundhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild <--- this page has this line: The stock Ubuntu configs are located in debian/config/ARCH/ where ARCH is the architecture you are building for. In this directory are several files. The config file is the base for all targets in that architecture"" But I am not able to find any of those files, can someone help me?05:23
THX-1138Do i need ESSID for an open access point?05:23
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AmaranthTHX-1138: Yeah, it's how you associate with the access point.05:24
hondjeConsty: Most people run 32 bit so that things like flash and media codecs work05:24
deadly_venommount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist05:24
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THX-1138Amaranth - Would Linksys be best? - suggestion?05:24
hondjeConsty: If you're not planning on using it as a desktop or plan to address huge amts of memory, 64 bit is probably the way to go....so depends on what you do  :)05:24
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zOrKum..05:25
AmaranthTHX-1138: You're looking to buy a wireless router?05:25
sidny4THX-1138, you need to tell the computer what network to connect to, so yes, you would need to specify the ESSID05:25
hantudeadly_venom: dmesg after you plugged in the usb device.. and check which dev it triggered.05:25
zOrKWireless does not works on my HP pavilion :(05:25
zOrKI've tried everything.05:25
Constythanks05:25
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zOrKfrom  ndiswrapper to setup it manually through the network-admin package.05:25
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RedRoseI want to run a server, but am caught as to which OS to use. I'm not going to use Win, i can say that, but my main Question is, Linux, BSD, or Solaris?05:25
sidny4well, WRT54GL is supposed to be pretty good, and it even has linux software running it05:25
THX-1138Amaranth - spare machine iso torrents and open acces05:25
ChocoCidzOrK : do you have a broadcom wireless card?05:25
zOrKwhat can I do?05:25
zOrKummm05:25
zOrKlet05:25
hondjeRedRose: I'd say go with what you know :)05:25
seamus7pike_: you still there?05:25
AmaranthTHX-1138: anything will do05:25
hondjeespecially if it's in production05:26
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harisundAny kernel developers in here? Or atleast someone who has compiled a Ubuntu kernel? please?05:26
oxygene_deadly_venom, you could tail -f /var/log/messages to see what usb device comes up when turning on your usb drive05:26
ChocoCidtype lspci05:26
AmaranthTHX-1138: I'd stay away from netgear and linksys though.05:26
RedRosehondje:I know them all05:26
zOrKyes ch05:26
elkbuntuRedRose, you're in a linux channel. we're most likely going to say linux :)05:26
zOrKyes ChocoCid05:26
zOrKit is.05:26
ChocoCidyeah, figured05:26
ChocoCiddapper, breezy, what?05:26
ferossRedRose: I run ubuntu server, works great and it has support for the next 6 years :)05:26
THX-1138Amaranth sidny Thanks guys05:26
zOrKBroadcom 80205:26
zOrKdapper..05:26
ChocoCidhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper05:26
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hondjeRedRose: Well, if you want my useless opinion, I'd use solaris then05:26
ChocoCidhave fun, it's a pain in the ass05:26
zOrKok05:26
zOrKthank05:26
elkbuntufeross, no, 5.. well 4.5 now05:26
zOrKit is?05:26
ChocoCidblame broadcom for being proprietary instead of open05:26
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sidny4Amaranth, what router do you recommend?05:26
THX-1138Amaranth - it's RaLink 2500 series - native driver.05:26
hondjeBut I'm fond of throwing debian on things I don't want to spend a lot of time maintaining...like my personal webserver, etc05:26
oxygene_deadly_venom, you could also add the disk mounter applet to your gnome-panel and mount it from there05:27
ChocoCidyou can't use ndiswrapper for broadcom05:27
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ferosselkbuntu: details details.. I'm trying to make a sale here ;)05:27
Amaranthsidny4: Well, my Belkin works alright.05:27
elkbuntufeross, lol05:27
ChocoCidbroacom requires some proprietary driver05:27
ChocoCidwhich you can likely get.... blah05:27
sidny4yeah05:27
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Amaranthsidny4: But you don't want to buy the cheapest one, they're really small and get really hot.05:27
sidny4I have a d-link that I'm pretty fond of05:27
ChocoCidi'm *hoping* that him leaving was due to rebooting in windows to grab the driver :\05:27
sidny4I've configured a few belkins, the cheap kind, not sure how long they lasted though, configured and ran :D05:28
THX-1138cafuego i think it was had a patch/binary for broadcom05:28
sidny4you can use broadcomm with ndiswrapper, you just nee to disable the broadcomm43xx that comes with dapper05:28
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FAERRLUQparaguay fiu fiu!05:28
THX-1138!es05:29
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.05:29
sidny4anybody ever use lirc?05:29
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ChocoCidlost irc?05:29
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SkramXi have two  monitors resolutions i use.. sometimes on my laptop's lcd (1024x768) and sometimes my 19" lcd of 1280x1024 is this possible?05:29
SkramX*sigh*05:29
sidny4nope, linus infrared client05:29
SeraVitaehi there, anyone might have a link to setting up a vnc server on ubuntu/gnome?05:29
sidny4linux*05:29
ChocoCidthen my answer is no :P05:29
ChocoCid!vnc05:29
ubotuvnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.05:29
sidny4!putty05:29
ubotussh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/05:29
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SeraVitaeits just over lan05:29
morodockanyone know where to find latest vmware for ubuntu reposititory? when I run player, it tell me there is a new version, but that's the latest from my synaptic repos05:29
morodockor is it now out yet?05:29
Unityanyone know if call of duty 2 multiplayers possible on cadega ?05:30
morodocknow - not05:30
FAERRLUQel chanchon!05:30
madorbhey, i'm trying to install, but the installer doesn't let me partition or install to /dev/hdf... any ideas anyone?05:30
ferossSeraVitae: uh uh.. I have one that uses himachi and vnc ... interested?05:30
deadly_venomsorry for the delay hondje..05:30
deadly_venom[17182842.460000]  usb 2-2: reset full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and addres s 2705:30
madorbit only provides /dev/[hda|hdb] 05:30
deadly_venomthere!\05:30
sidny4madorb, do you have 6 hard drives?05:30
ferossSeraVitae: oh, I guess if it's over lan no need for VPN05:30
SeraVitaeyeah05:31
SeraVitaeill just follow the server instructions05:31
seamus7Hi all ... I'm trying to move a partition from a directory under / to a directory under /home/'user' .... it's an ext3 partition ... I edited the mountpoint in fstab to point to a different directory and restarted my computer but it doesn't seemed to have taken ... anyone available to help? pike_ still there?05:31
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oxygene_deadly_venom, it should be followed by something like "SCSI device sda: 488397168 512-byte hdwr sectors (250059 MB)"05:31
madorb3 hds05:31
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sidny4ok, so that means you have /dev/hda, hdb, hdc05:31
sidny4which partition is it on which drive?05:32
deadly_venomoxygene_:  [17182847.504000]  sd 240:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x7000005:32
oxygene_deadly_venom, I use the disk mounter applet so I see the icon for the disk when it is connected and I can mount it from there easily05:32
madorbwell, for whatever reason it read them in as hda, hdb, hdf05:32
madorbno clue why05:32
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sidny4hmm, ok, how are you trying to install?05:33
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madorbdev/hdf has what i want to install to05:33
pike_seamus7: if you sudo mount -a  You get errors?05:33
Axe_how do I make a shortcut to a folder on the desktop05:33
madorbstandard installer05:33
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sidny4throughthe live CD?05:33
deadly_venomoxygene_:  [17182847.504000]  sd 240:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x7000005:33
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hyperstreamhow can i make alsa choose my nvidia onboard over my pci soundblaster?05:33
ferossAxe_: right click create launcher05:33
oxygene_deadly_venom, well. that's strange05:33
hyperstreamas its primary output05:33
robert_bah, wtf- V4L keeps making apps freeze05:33
deadly_venomoxygene_:  maybe, mine is not scsi05:33
robert_V4L2 won't work at all05:34
mikewinsdeskIs there somewheres where I can read to setup different groups of users on different virtual servers for proftpd in webmin05:34
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seamus7pike_: do i need to change to a different directory in the terminal before using that command?05:34
oxygene_deadly_venom, my usb drive is a simple eide-drive via usb05:34
deadly_venomoxygene_:  i got this also -> [17182847.504000]  sd 240:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x7000005:34
pike_seamus7: nope it just mounts everything in fstab05:34
deadly_venomoxygene_: I got this also -> [17182847.504000]  sd 240:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x7000005:34
seamus7pike_: oh ok let me try05:34
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oxygene_i get it05:34
seamus7pike_: no error messages05:35
oxygene_deadly_venom, do you use a usb hub or maybe a long usb cable?05:35
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pike_seamus7: what directory did you set it to mount to exactly? like /home/username/something ?05:35
oxygene_deadly_venom, try another usb port, too05:36
jerrcshi, my /lib /usr/lib and /var/lib folders a HUGE, is there anyway to reduce the space used by them?05:36
deadly_venomoxygene_:  My hdd and my ubuntu box is both connected with a usb.05:36
seamus7pike_: that did it ... the partition is now showing up properly in the directory I pointed to in fstab .... Thanks!05:36
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madorbi'll try the alternate installer, thanks all05:36
seamus7pike_: i thought rebooting would do what your command did .... no?05:36
darkaurawhen I create a folder to share on my computer my friend who is using windows can see me and access my computer but when he goes to view the folder it asks for an user name a password05:36
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pike_seamus7: np maybe the entry in fstab is higher than your home dir partition? might put it at the bottom05:37
rixthIs there a KHTML-based browser for gnome?05:37
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SeraVitaeOkay i have the VNC server running now.05:37
deadly_venomoxygene_: [17183568.188000]  scsi249 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices05:37
deadly_venom[17183568.188000]  usb-storage: device found at 4105:37
deadly_venom[17183568.188000]  usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning05:37
SeraVitaebut i didn't see in vnc.conf or any options, what the port for VNC was.05:37
SeraVitae?05:37
seamus7pike_: yeah it is05:37
robdarkaura: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking-introduction.html05:38
oxygene_deadly_venom, you can use  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for the whole log05:38
robthere are a few pages05:38
pike_seamus7: thats the only thing i could think of if home hadnt mounted yet and it tried to mount the other partition first but it couldnt find the directory05:38
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hondjerixth: No, but there's a gtk-webkit thing on sourceforge05:39
SuperQdoes anyone know where mkinitramfs gets it's hints about / being a raid device?05:39
SuperQ(/dev/md0 == raid1)05:39
robrixth: just use konqueror?05:39
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rixthrob, eehhh but KDE apps don't fit in with gnome05:39
ferossSeraVitae: try lsof -i | grep LISTEN05:39
mikewinsdeskwhy when i change the directory to /home instead of /home/FTP-shared in proftpd does is refuse my connection, otherwise when its set to /home/FTP-shared it works fine, I was using this tutorial to set it up http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79588&highlight=proftpd , but now I want to set it up for virtual ftp servers05:40
deadly_venomoxygene_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25944/05:40
ChocoCidkde apps work fine on gnome05:40
robrixth: sure they do, if you spend the time to configure the themes correctly05:40
SuperQhrm05:40
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ArafangionMy touchpad is too dang sensitive - how do i fix this?05:40
GoldKeeperhmm05:40
ChocoCidmany of the KDE apps are *redundant* with gnome apps05:40
ChocoCidwhich means it's pointless to have both05:41
GoldKeeperi cant compile in ubuntu ?05:41
robumm kioslaves are nice though05:41
robubotu: tell GoldKeeper about buildessential05:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about buildessential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:41
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DualHey guys, I'm having a problem with gaim, 1.5.1cvs,  one one of my MSN accounts it just completely quits after it logs on. I'm even able to see the buddy list (for less than a second)05:41
robbah05:41
oxygene_deadly_venom, looks like a hardware problem05:41
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MadpilotGoldKeeper, install build-essential05:41
GoldKeeperk05:41
oxygene_deadly_venom, try plugging the drive in another usb port05:41
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seamus7pike_: would you happen to know what the error message means in my fstab file for my / partition under the column 'options' ... specifically it says   'defaults,errors=remount-ro'05:41
GoldKeeperthat really should be standard05:42
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ArafangionDual: If it's a problem with the version of gaim that comes with Ubuntu, fine, but if it's a problem with a non-default version of gaim, why don't you ask the gaim folks?05:42
Se7hcould some one help me on the webcam spca5 driver? (edgy)05:42
SeraVitaefeross - okay that worked05:42
ArafangionGoldKeeper: It _is_ standard.05:42
SeraVitaenow um05:42
Dualit came with ubuntu05:42
robGoldKeeper: it's the source of much debate, its on the cd though05:42
nex_howdy everyone05:42
SeraVitaethe VNC server window..05:42
GoldKeeperi mean its no big deal05:42
SeraVitaeit uh... looks nothing like what's on the server right now.05:42
ArafangionGoldKeeper: Infact, every single debian and debian-derived distro does it the same way.05:42
billi_123105:42
GoldKeeperubuntu is awsome05:42
GoldKeeperbut05:42
DualArafangion: it did come installed with ubuntu05:42
SuperQnevermind.. I figured it out.. mdadm comes with the scripts stuff05:43
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SuperQ*sigh*05:43
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deadly_venomoxygene_:  same thing! :( .. Let me check the BIOS Setting05:43
ArafangionGoldKeeper: Mac OS X also requires explicit installation for their developer tools.05:43
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ChocoCidright now i have kmine open next to the mines for GNOME05:43
oxygene_deadly_venom, does the drive work on other machines?05:43
SeraVitaewhat the hell..05:43
ferossSeraVitae: oh, it probably started a twm session05:43
ChocoCidand really the only difference is the game/settings toolbar05:44
pike_seamus7: im not sure of the specifics of how it works but it would then mount / as read only if there was a problem for instance if you needed root access to a comp you didnt know the password you could edit grub and type init=/bin/sh in the options then it would boot to a root shell but / would be read only you would then have to mount -o remount,rw /05:44
deadly_venomoxygene_: Yup, It is working in my Windows Machine, perfectly.05:44
SeraVitaefeross - it's got a black hatched backround and one terminal window05:44
GoldKeeperhmm maybe im not using the add/remove programs thing rite05:44
GoldKeeperis there a package for ruby ?05:44
ChocoCid(other than the fact that kmine in general looks like something out of an old-as-heck version of windows, which is my opinion of KDE in general so meh)05:44
ferossSeraVitae: yeah, SeraVitae twm, twm SeraVitae05:44
SeraVitaei was sorta hoping i could get access to the existing gnome session i had running.05:44
robGoldKeeper: should be :)05:44
GoldKeeperit doesnt find one05:44
SeraVitaelike the windows version of vnc05:44
oxygene_deadly_venom, do you have another cable to test?05:44
robGoldKeeper: try searching with: apt-cache search ruby05:44
DualCortexHey guys, I'm having a problem with gaim, 1.5.1cvs,  one one of my MSN accounts it just completely quits after it logs on. I'm even able to see the buddy list (for less than a second) anyone got any ideas on what may be causing the problem? Could it be a character from my buddies's nicknames?05:44
darkaurabrb probibly with more questions05:45
deadly_venomoxygene_:  let me check..05:45
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myk3hello05:45
myk3im trying to setup ubuntu on a compaq presario 1200 (12XL505) but i cant fine the propper sync ranges for the lcd where can i find thesE?05:45
myk3i cna run x but it only uses about 60% of the screen05:45
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robGoldKeeper: you will probably want ruby1.605:45
SeraVitaemyk3 - graphics card problems. happens on mine too05:45
myk3if i try to auto detect it fails and x doesnt boot05:45
robGoldKeeper: or ruby1.905:46
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Arafangionmyk3: Alternatively, try a different graphics driver (if available), or a specific resolution.05:46
ferossSeraVitae: you have to fanagle the config files in .vnc tell it to execute gnome-session or similar. Can't rememeber exactly. Should be fairly easy to find on net.05:46
myk3i tried to use the trident but it would boot05:46
lemonsCChello all05:46
seamus7pike_: so that sounds like that 'options' parameter is an intended parameter .... i thought (as a newbie) that it might be an indication of some sort of error05:46
myk3so now im useing vesa05:46
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myk3and it boots x but only for 60% on the screen05:46
myk3kinda like a bad res05:47
pike_seamus7: mine has same entry05:47
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usuxhi05:47
usuxubuntu linux is basically shit05:47
myk3but if i comment out the lines in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (horizontal and vertical) it will use slightly more on the screen05:47
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seamus7pike_: lol ... great now i don't have to obsess about that anymore ... thanks lol05:47
hondjeusux: That's a topic more suited to #ubuntu-offtopic05:48
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hondjeThis is a support channel05:48
pike_feel the love man05:48
pike_;p05:48
lemonsCCQuestion:  I have totem setup to do all the "restricted" formats on firefox, but can't play embedded mp3s.  Is there anyway to play them without messing up my current (totem) plugins?05:48
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usuxawsome new ubuntu site wowomg.com05:49
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myk3when i try to use the trident driver it fails05:49
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myk3what other driver can i use05:49
myk3besides vesa05:49
myk3?>05:49
myk3and vga05:49
Arafangionmyk3: vesa is extremely generic.05:50
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myk3i know05:50
myk3and it works 60%05:50
Arafangionmyk3: What vga chipset do you have?05:50
liquidsilencestupid wowomg.com05:50
oxygene_deadly_venom, I have to leave now. If using another port and cable (and avoiding usb hubs) doesn't help, it could be that either your pc's usb ports are defect or the harddrive itself05:50
liquidsilenceneverrrr05:50
myk3trident05:50
myk3ummm05:50
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Arafangionmyk3: No, not "60%", your screen is simply stating the largest "vesa" resolution it can handle, and displaying that.05:51
myk3o ok05:51
MotorCityMadManif i change my dns server in the resolv.conf file can ?/do you need to restart(shell Command to do so) or just saving the file works ?05:51
liquidsilencehey usux, YOU SUCKS05:51
myk3so it was at 1024x76805:51
deadly_venomoxygene_: what do you use ?05:51
deadly_venomgnome-volume-manager ?05:51
myk3so can i up it one more?05:51
oxygene_deadly_venom, what do you mean?05:51
pike_MotorCityMadMan: just saving works05:51
deadly_venomwhat applet do you use? to maange to usb drives ?05:51
Arafangionmyk3: It's highly likely that your screen can't be fully utilized using only vesa resolutions - let me guess, you have a "wide" screen?05:52
oxygene_deadly_venom, the disk mounter applet05:52
MotorCityMadManpike_: nice, ty05:52
oxygene_deadly_venom, but your problem is on a lower level05:52
Arafangionmyk3: Which laptop do you have? (And how old is it?)05:52
oxygene_deadly_venom, the kernel has problems to communicate with the drive without problems05:52
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deadly_venomwhat is the cmd for disk mounter applet ... apt-get install what? I wajnt to give it atry05:52
Arafangionusux didn't last lon.05:52
Arafangion*long05:52
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ArafangionHello_Kitty__: You *suck* at Utopia!05:53
ArafangionHello_Kitty__: Seriously.05:53
oxygene_deadly_venom, most probably it won't help. i'm not sure if the disk mounter is there by default05:53
GoldKeeperhuh ?05:53
liquidsilenceim a windowz user shoot me05:53
esfeis there a way i can get ubuntu to prompt me about stuff as it starts05:53
oxygene_just right-click on your panel and select "add to panel"05:53
Arafangionliquidsilence: *bang*05:53
esfelike do u want to load this and that05:53
oxygene_look for the disk mounter in the "system & hardware" section then05:53
Madpilotliquidsilence, please stop trolling... thanks05:53
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Madpilotesfe, prompt you about what?05:54
esfemaybe buy change boot stuff i grub?05:54
myk3ara= compaw presario 1200 model 12XL50505:54
myk3dont know how old05:54
pike_esfe: yes i dont remember the flag for that though..05:54
lemonsCCNo help for mp3 plugin on forums or irc....05:54
myk3it came from a friend05:54
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Madpilotubotu, tell lemonsCC about mp305:54
esfeMadpilot: well actually i want it not to cheack my harddisk for erros05:54
esfeerrors05:54
lemonsCC I have totem setup to do all the "restricted" formats on firefox, but can't play embedded mp3s.  Is there anyway to play them without messing up my current (totem) plugins?05:54
esfepike_: i rember doining it in fedora05:54
eegoreI am having issues with an asus A8N-E on board sound controller05:55
unfknblvblis there a way to join PDFs in ubuntu ?05:55
Madpilotesfe, the fsck checks? It only does that about once every 30 boots, so once a month or so... is it really worth disabling?05:55
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hondjelemonsCC: I'd install either totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin or totem-xine-firefox-plugin, depending on which is more appropriate05:55
hondjeoh, misread :) Sorry05:56
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eegoreit seems that I can only have one app access the hw:0 controller at once. do I need an updated hardware driver to get the channels to work properly in dapper?05:56
lemonsCCMadpilot:  I already went through the restricted formats and got it all working nicely.  Everything except embedded mp3s05:57
gtlI'm having problems installing wine on my ubuntu x86_6405:57
oxygene_deadly_venom, I'm leaving now. bye05:57
deadly_venomoxygene_:  thanks for the help05:57
deadly_venomoxygene_:  bye05:57
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Arafangionmyk3: Ok, you have:  Trident CyberBlade 3D Graphics with 4 MB shared video memory (user-configurable to 2 MB, 4 MB or 8 MB)05:57
lemonsCCMadpilot:  I installed xmms and it is the default for mp3 files but I couldn't find anything about a firefox plugin05:58
esfeMadpilot: something gone wrong it won't stop checking05:58
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esfeMadpilot: maybey my hd's got bad sectors or somthing but i don't care05:58
myk3ara yes05:58
cpwI seem to have a lot of packages in hold according to aptitude05:58
cpwanyway to unhold them all?05:59
YBH_1apt-get install windows-vista05:59
deadly_venomJUST CURIOUS, isn't dmesg the same as /var/log/messages ?05:59
YBH_1deadly_venom, C05:59
MadpilotlemonsCC, no idea, you should be glad you can't hear the random crap people install on their webpages ;)05:59
Arafangionmyk3: Which version of Ubuntu are you running?05:59
deadly_venomYBH_1:  What ?05:59
myk3Arafangion when i try to use the trident driver x will freeze causeing a hard boot05:59
Arafangionmyk3: This may be relevant: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1310106:00
myk36.0.606:00
Madpilotesfe, check the output of the next fsck run, it'll tell you if you've got bad sectors. Ignoring them doesn't sound like a good idea.06:00
ChocoCidso, is "localpurge" a bad program to run?06:00
esfebut i want too06:00
sidny4!flash06:00
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:00
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Arafangionmyk3: You could try the Edgy live cd, just to check it out.06:00
YBH_1Yes06:00
pike_esfe: have you tried the mplayer plugin instead?06:01
YBH_1ye sdmesg is messages log06:01
Arafangionmyk3: If you're very lucky, it's a bug that's been fixed for edgy - but I doubt it.06:01
sproingieChocoCid: i've run localepurge with no problems, but it's not really worth it unless you're really tight on space06:01
pike_esfe: sorry wrong nick06:01
myk3when i try to boot live on any distro without chooseing (safe mode) it freezes06:01
deadly_venomYBH_1:  can't i just go to /var/log/message rather than typing dmesg ?06:01
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YBH_1Yes if it is readable by anyone except root06:01
YBH_1otherwise - > sudo texteditorenamehere /var/log/message06:02
Arafangionmyk3: Does "any" include any bleeding edge distros?06:02
ChocoCidwell, i am kinda tight on space due to dual booting on a 80 gig hard drive (with the "other" os full of bloat on the other partition)06:02
myk3i have tried06:02
Arafangionmyk3: Which ones have you tried?06:03
myk3ubuntu, kubuntu, slax, slackware, xubuntu, ubuntu lite06:03
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Arafangionmyk3: Which *versions*?06:03
ebrosiustach06:03
myk3vector06:03
myk3latest of all06:03
ebrosiusomg youre still here :D06:03
Arafangionmyk3: Here, the issue is which VERSION of the xorg and graphics drivers.06:03
myk3let me say this06:03
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myk3when i got the laptop it had pclinux on it06:03
Arafangionmyk3: As I'm guessing, only the latest will work for you - alternatively, it's possible that it'll only work with xfree86 :(06:03
Arafangionmyk3: Did that work?06:04
myk3xfree86?06:04
myk3yes pclinux was working06:04
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myk3but i didnt want that06:04
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myk3and then when i screwed it up i tried all 3 versions of that with the same result06:04
myk3black sreen06:04
Arafangionmyk3: My guess is that only a very specific driver will work on your machine.06:05
myk3damn06:05
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Arafangionmyk3: Possibly only with xfree86, as opposed with xorg06:05
myk3is it going to be a trail process06:05
myk3how dod i do that?06:05
Arafangionmyk3: Yes :(06:05
myk3im new to the linux world06:05
myk3trial06:05
myk3lol06:05
pike_myk3: try freebsd :)06:06
myk3ok06:06
myk3hopefully it will work06:06
Arafangionmyk3: You're unfortunate in that you are using very difficult hardware.06:06
myk3lol06:06
myk3i know06:06
Arafangionpike_: What's that like with the graphics drivers?06:06
myk3i had ubuntu on my other laptop but broke06:06
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myk3and i am going to buy another (newer) laptop hopefully soon06:07
unfknblvblwhere can i go to learn about batch commands in the console ?06:07
myk3my toshiba broke main board went out after lightning hit it06:07
Arafangionmyk3: Lightning, eh?06:07
myk3yea06:07
myk3pos06:07
akano1nhow can i add ndiswrapper to modprobe ?06:07
myk3and it was oow06:07
ferossunfknblvbl: lookup bash tutorial06:07
myk3OOW06:07
unfknblvblcheerz06:07
myk3and im useing my wifes right now06:08
myk3an acer 710006:08
Arafangionmyk3: The best possible brand of graphics drivers you can get are NVidia, keep that in mind - but they are often expensive in laptops.06:08
myk3its nice06:08
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pike_Arafangion: to be honest not sure. ive only been using it on my laptop for about 4 months and i was fortunate that everything just kind of worked. havent had to mess around too much with it06:08
Arafangionmyk3: I've got an Acer V6V, it's rather nice.06:08
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myk3cool06:08
myk3i work for acer no06:08
myk3now06:08
Arafangionpike_: The issue here is crap driver support for Trident.06:08
myk3for the past 6 months06:08
myk3in temple tx06:08
eegorefor some strange reason, I can only have one app access the device at once06:09
harrismPlease help with a problem I've encountered. When I restart my computer it hangs when it should load GRUB. I am actually running the live cd right now, is there anything I can do?06:09
link_36pAnyone here experienced with WLAN?06:09
eegoredo I have to reconfigure alsa for the device change?06:09
Arafangionmyk3: Well, the V6800V works rather well, everything works (Haven't tested bluetooth, or firewire, or infrared, or modem), but the ati card works with the ati drivers (download from website), and the card reader also works.06:09
eegoreif so, how do I reset the alsa config06:10
myk3does ubuntu do good with amd 64 x2?06:10
Arafangionmyk3: Asus's windows drivers suck, ironically.06:10
myk3i just bought a new desktop06:10
myk3lol06:10
ferosslink_36p: what's your question?06:10
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harrismso can anyone help?06:10
Arafangionmyk3: Infact, they suck so badly that it's faster to run windows in qemu than on the actual hardware itself, and I'm not exagerating.06:10
myk3wow06:10
myk3that does suck06:10
myk3well i think ill try agan tomarrow06:11
myk3thanks06:11
ChocoCidhaha06:11
myk3for the help06:11
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w30harrism, does it say grub somthing and then hang?06:11
ArafangionChocoCid: I'm not kidding.06:11
ChocoCidi really should find my windows disk and set up qemu just so i can stick windows on face #4 of the cube and get rid of my windows partition entirely06:11
ArafangionChocoCid: Using the "kqemu accellerator", mind you.06:11
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ChocoCidi've just never worked with virtualization before at all, so...06:11
ArafangionChocoCid: It's not virtualization.06:12
link_36pWell im trying to get it working on my laptop feross, i just did a fresh edgy install and there are two connections and i dont know wich is really my wifi, one is named "wifi0" and the network utility shoes packets going through it and the other is "ath0" showing no packets. I cant get a connection at all though.06:12
harrismw30: no, it hangs before it would usually get to that step06:12
ArafangionChocoCid: qemu *emulates*06:12
ChocoCider, ok06:12
harrism:/06:12
ChocoCidvmware virtualize06:12
ChocoCid+s06:12
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ChocoCidand i'm not sure which one i want, nor why i would want either over the other06:12
harrismI have some java projects on my disk that was not backed up either06:12
ArafangionChocoCid: VMware is more polished.06:12
ArafangionChocoCid: But you have to purchase it in order to use it effectively.06:12
link_36pFeross where can i find a good guide to wifi'ing in ubuntu (ive already gone through wiki.ubuntu.com)06:12
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ChocoCidah, hrm06:13
ArafangionChocoCid: VMware is also better on the graphics dept, but qemu + kqemu is arguably faster in other regards.06:13
pike_vmware server isnt bad and the serial is free with registration06:13
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ChocoCidwell, i don't really care about graphics06:13
ferosslink_36p: hmm, what do you see with iwconfig?06:13
rgaalguem fala portugus e pode me ajudar?06:13
tritium!pt06:13
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.06:13
ArafangionChocoCid: On the other hand, if you want true virtualization, take a look at Xen.06:13
ChocoCid!xen06:13
ubotuXEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy06:13
ChocoCidooh, edgy :D06:13
ArafangionChocoCid: Though, unless you have the specific hardware, you may have to live with mere paravirtualization.06:13
Half-Leftsome of my themes are broken in Edgy, any ideas?06:13
Unityis an actual install of ubuntu better than VMware ?06:13
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ferosslink_36p: don't paste here, but you should see one that says something with IEEE in it.06:13
ArafangionChocoCid: Paravirtualization, however, requires modifications to both host and guest, and as a result, you cannot run windows as a guest.06:14
harrismI don't mind reinstalling, but is there a way I can get my projects off the disk first?06:14
ArafangionUnity: Ha. :)06:14
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Ferret0547Do you have to register on Ubuntu Forums to use this channel?06:14
ArafangionUnity: You're joking, right?06:14
ChocoCidFerret0547 : no06:15
Unitynope06:15
Unityguy on my msn keeps on telling me to do clean install on hard disk instead of emulation im like why he's like just do it06:15
Unityhehe06:15
w30harrism, there is two parts to grub. first part is installed in the mbr and the second part is in /boot and maybe /boot/grub. If you have nothing then you probably have lost something in the mbr and if you have loading stage 1 or something like that and then it hangs you have got the grub on the mbr looking in the wrong place for /boot/grub06:15
link_36pfeross: ya ath0 does in iwconfig its the olny one with a "wireless extention" so why doesnt it pick up any packages!!! :'(06:15
ChocoCidso uh, why does xen want me to make an initrd image of the linux kernel?06:15
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ArafangionUnity: I don't mean to rude, but it's pretty much a "Duh" answer - yes, Ubuntu is better actually installed.06:15
ArafangionUnity: Assuming you have reasonable hardware.06:15
Unityk06:15
ChocoCidI would think i'd want to install windows there :\06:15
link_36pfeross: packets*06:15
ChocoCidbleh, i'll figure out what i want to do regarding virtualization/emulation later06:16
ArafangionUnity: But...   If you have to use windows most of the time (I use Ubuntu most of the time), you _may_ be better off with continuing to run it in vmware, rather than living with dualbooting.06:16
ferosslink_36p: ok try  iwlist ath0 scanning   ... get the essid and I'll tell you what to put in your interfaces file06:16
ArafangionChocoCid: Xen is currently unable to run windows, because it needs to modify the guest.06:17
ChocoCidah, gotcha06:17
ChocoCidthat's pointless then :P06:17
harrismI was actually trying to use wine, while installing a game everything got extremely slow.. my system locked up actually which I was amazed with so I rebooted to leave the process hang just before it would mention "grub"06:17
ArafangionChocoCid: The magic with Xen is that it allows several OS's to run _natively_ on the hardware, without any emulation.06:17
lemonsCCIs there anyway to install mplayer plugin for specific file types?06:17
w30harrism, to repair grub you have to do the chroot bit with your harddrive installation. There should be help in the Ubuntu community documentation.06:17
ChocoCidi do not need to emulate linux within linux06:17
ArafangionChocoCid: Xen doesn't.06:17
ChocoCider, virtualize it06:17
ChocoCidw/e06:17
harrismyou mean, I can access my hd still?06:18
ChocoCidhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows  <-- harrism, use that06:18
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harrismthanks a lot06:18
ChocoCidi'll probably look more into qemu06:18
harrismthis live cd is a life saver06:18
jeremy_canyone sucessfully installed Ubuntu in Parallels?06:18
stephans_OK - I have another stupid question... how do I tell a host to pass the hostname to the dhcp server... so it can register with DDNS?06:19
DualCortexHey guys, I'm having a problem with gaim, 1.5.1cvs,  one one of my MSN accounts it just completely quits after it logs on. I'm even able to see the buddy list (for less than a second) anyone got any ideas on what may be causing the problem? Could it be a character from my buddies's nicknames?06:19
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ChocoCidlivecds tend to be, harrism06:19
sidny4!lirc06:19
ubotulirc: Linux Infra-red Remote Control support. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.7.1pre2-11ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 271 kB, installed size 1440 kB06:19
ArafangionHow do I adjust the sensitivity of my touchpad?06:20
sidny4anybody know how to use lirc?06:20
ArafangionI only have to HOVER over it to move the mouse or click.06:20
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ArafangionHeck, I could put several layers of paper over it and still use it without any issue.06:20
ChocoCidhaha06:20
ChocoCiduh, hold on06:20
ChocoCidis it a synatpic touchpad?06:20
ChocoCid*synaptic06:20
darkauraokay I got the Nvidia drivers from ubuntu installed06:20
ArafangionChocoCid: I believe so.06:21
w30harrism, have you tried to start you Ubuntu installation from the live cd? there should be an option for that.06:21
ChocoCidstep 1: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:21
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ArafangionChocoCid: Just tried it with four layers of paper.06:21
ChocoCidstep 2: save a backup xorg.conf.old06:21
ChocoCidstep 3... find something in there that looks relevant and make the number bigger :P06:21
ArafangionChocoCid: What's the setting?06:21
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ChocoCidoddly enough, i don't seem to have a relevant one in my xorg.conf06:22
link_36pfeross: essid is "Hansell Manor""06:22
ChocoCiddo you have the synaptics driver?06:22
ArafangionChocoCid: I can't find any such setting.06:22
harrismyeah I did, and it just hanged :/06:22
ChocoCidyeah, googling now06:22
ferossChocoCid: shouldn't step 2 be step 1 ;) .. just sudo cp /ect/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11.xorg.conf.back06:22
ChocoCideh, fair enough06:22
ferosslink_36p: ok hold a sec06:22
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Arafangionfeross: Actually, apt will back it up for you.06:23
esfeMadpilot: if fstab theres two numbers at the end of the hd line the last number is one06:23
harrismhow can I paste the terminal output here? it is more than a few lines so I don't want to flood the channel06:23
Arafangionfeross: Well, in this specific case, xorg is very hard to ruin. :)06:23
Ferret0547I had kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop packages installed and then I removed some stuff from them namely the usplash package06:23
esfeMadpilot: if you change the last number to 0 it stops checking06:23
pike_!paste > harrism06:23
BeepAUany gamers here? i download nexuiz, but i can't see how to install it.06:23
Madpilotesfe, cool, good to know. Add that to the Ubuntu wiki somewhere!06:23
dreamok i found the driver to my printer on dapper but it doesnt print as neat as windows06:23
Ferret0547This is on Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS06:23
esfeMadpilot: aparterntly if you change it to 2 i asks you each tim06:23
dreamis there a way to fix that?06:23
esfeyeah06:24
DualCortexHey guys, I'm having a problem with gaim, 1.5.1cvs,  one one of my MSN accounts it just completely quits after it logs on. I'm even able to see the buddy list (for less than a second) anyone got any ideas on what may be causing the problem? Could it be a character from my buddies's nicknames?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!06:24
esfe:)06:24
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unfknblvbl#gaim ?06:24
ArafangionDualCortex: What did I say earlier?06:24
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ChocoCidwhat brand laptop is it?06:24
DualCortexArafangion: IT DID come installed06:24
harrism!paste > testing testing :D06:24
harrismhmm06:24
harrismsorry06:24
w30harrism, that should bypass grub and find your kernel directly I think? Maybe grub is not your problem. Have you lost the boot flag on your hard drive or something like that?06:24
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esfeMadpilot: found it in man fstab06:25
pike_dream: if you open firefox and goto localhost:631 under the admin link depending on the driver you might be able to adjust some things06:25
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ArafangionDualCortex: Then, it's not 1.5.1cvs, it's 1.5.0+1.5.1cvs20051015-1ubuntu10 (On mine)06:25
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kishorehow to clean the temp files in linux06:25
ferosslink_36p: so in your /etc/networking/interfaces file you should have "iface ath0 inet dhcp\ wireless-essid "Hansell Manor" the "\" means those are two lines not all one line.. also you need to disable the networking applet for now.. go to it and select lo as the interface so it doesn't mess up anything.06:25
ArafangionDualCortex: Or you could just not be specific, and just say "The version in dapper".06:25
hondjekishore: define 'temp' files?06:25
harrismw30, I am really not sure but do not know how to find out06:26
frodoHi All06:26
kishorehondje, i mean. when connected to internet some temp r stored somewhere na06:26
frodoi have a Q?06:26
kishorehondje, also during installation06:26
DualCortexArafangion: if you don't have an answer then you might as well ........06:26
feross!ask > frodo06:26
Ferret0547I had kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop packages installed and then I removed some stuff from them namely the usplash package. Now, in GNOME and Xfce everytime I change the font size or font for "Application Font" absolutely nothing happens.06:26
hondjekishore: Your browser should have an option to 'clear the cache' in the menus06:26
kishorehondje, i heard some cmd "autoclean"06:26
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w30harrism, I know that a MSWindows install likes to change the boot flag to whatever it calls drive C: I don't know what a program in wine could do?06:27
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kishoreubotu, autoclean06:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about autoclean - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:27
frodowhere synaptic cashe the downloaded pakeges?06:27
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montablachey all06:27
ferossFerret0547: I had all three installed one time and it messes up big time. Just pick one :)06:27
hondjefrodo: /var/cache/apt/archives06:27
montablacany one know of any good game devolment systems for linux?06:27
harrismhmm, yeah I think wine messed me up. My box was running perfectly just before that06:27
hondjekishore: that doesn't have anything to do with browsers :)06:28
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kishorehondje, no temp folder in linux06:28
harrismhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25945/06:28
Arafangionduckdown: I don't have an answer, but you're unlikely to get answers when you're asking about _specific_ versionf of gaim, that aren't installed by default.06:28
kishoreya.. may be06:28
harrismdoes that look ok?06:28
hondjekishore: yeah, for firefox it's probably inside $HOME/.firefox though06:28
w30harrism,sudo  fdisk /dev/hda should show you what is going on on your hard drive and partitions just hit m for menu and go from there.06:28
hondjebut there's no 'everywhere' folder06:28
Half-Leftmontablac, You mean like Directx?06:28
frodothank U !06:28
harrismok thanks06:29
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montablacno,like a c++ enviroment + compiler06:29
Ferret0547I'll pick ubuntu-desktop and just enough kubuntu stuff for kopete to run06:29
w30harrism, but don't write to the hard drive just look :=)06:29
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MrHello06:29
SeraVitaehm06:30
SeraVitaei can't find what commands i need to use to connect an existing gnome-session to tightvnc.06:30
harrismwhich option should I choose on the menu? I am unsure as to what I am looking for06:30
SeraVitaei've googled, but it's all very ambiguous.06:30
MrI downloaded Ubuntu alternate im trying to install it now im where it says Install in text mode,install OEM,Install a server which one do select06:30
hondjemontablac: There are lots of IDEs available, but none specifically for game development afaik06:31
Arafangionmontablac: Why would an IDE be specific to game development?06:31
montablacwell,what would be considered the best one for ubuntu 6.06?06:31
Arafangionmontablac: Define "best"06:31
ferossSeraVitae: hmm vncviewer localhost:0  brings up  twm?06:31
hondjemontablac: that's a matter of debate among people. Everyone has their preference06:31
montablacsmallest and most stable06:32
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hondjevim06:32
SeraVitaefeross - im connecting from a windwos vnc box to a linux vnc server06:32
hondjehehe06:32
ChocoCidCALLED IT06:32
Arafangionmontablac: I like vim 7.0, and make files, I say "The OS is the IDE", which it is.06:32
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w30harrism, I think fdisk has (shows) a asterisk for a boot flag06:32
SeraVitaeand yes, when i connect to the linux vnc server i get twm06:32
ruim trying to install synaptic06:32
Arafangionmontablac: Others use emacs and say "Emacs is my OS, and Linux is my device driver".06:32
rureturns a failire:06:32
rusynaptic: Depends: libvte4 (>= 1:0.12.1)06:32
Arafangionmontablac: Yet other swear by KDevelop.06:32
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ruhow do i forcefully install the version that it needs?06:32
MrI downloaded Ubuntu alternate im trying to install it now im where it says Install in text mode,install OEM,Install a server which one do select?06:32
montablacim used to things like dev c++06:33
Arafangionmontablac: Other fan clubs you could subscribe to are: Anjuta, Eclipse, etc.06:33
harrismi hit toggle a bootable flag and it wants an option 1 - 5, should I choose 1?06:33
hondjemontablac: there are literally a hundred options man06:33
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hondjedeveloping on unix is .... well, kinda what it's for :)06:33
Mrcan someone help me?06:33
SeraVitaeex06:33
montablacMR,do you want a sever?06:33
Arafangionmontablac: Dev C++ seems like a rather primitive IDE to me.06:33
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MrI want the GUI06:34
Mrbut its going to be a server06:34
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montablacis it going to be sent to any one?06:34
ferossSeraVitae: edit  ".vnc/xstartup" .. find twm in there and make it gnome-session .06:34
SeraVitaeok06:34
Yggdrasilhi folks. is there a way to edit mp3s. mostly jsut cropping them for cell phone ringtones ?06:34
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ajuki123how do i change root password on ubuntu?06:34
Arafangionmontablac: What do you mean?06:34
Mrno? im just installing it on one of my computers06:34
sethkYggdrasil, mp3s are compressed.  you can't really edit compressed audio06:34
sethkajuki123, sudo passwd06:34
montablacMR,try text install06:34
Arafangionmontablac: Why don't you just install a few, and check them out?06:34
DarkMageZYggdrasil, try using audacity. it might do the trick 06:35
Yggdrasilbummer06:35
Yggdrasilkk06:35
Mrthanks06:35
SeraVitaefeross - in /home/<user>/.vnc there's a line called xstartup, and there's no twm in there.06:35
montablacbecause i dont know what packages to get06:35
ArafangionDarkMageZ: Nice smilie!06:35
sethkMr, text mode, because you had problems with the gui earlier, right?06:35
Mryeah06:35
MrI want the gui but the installation wasnt working06:35
ajuki123sethk, thanks06:35
Arafangionmontablac: apt-get install anjuta kdevelop emacs vim build-essential eclipse06:35
SeraVitaeoh wait. this is confusing.06:35
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SeraVitaeit was a dir. heh.06:35
harrismrather-> partition number (1-5)... I only have ubuntu on my hd so it would have to be 1 right?06:35
w30Yggdrasil, how do you change the ring tone on a cell phone? I hate my ring tones.06:36
Arafangionmontablac: That installs "five" IDE's, though with eclipse, you'd still need to get the c++ plugin, as by default, it only does Java.06:36
montablacdont you mean sudo in front?06:36
sethkharrism, no, you may have swap partitions, you may have installed onto more than one partition06:36
Arafangionmontablac: Yes.06:36
SeraVitaefeross - there's no twm command in there.06:36
montablacok06:36
SeraVitaex-window-manager though.06:36
montablacgive me a minute,ill check it out06:36
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sethkharrism, and the automatic partitioner sometimes makes an extended partition, and puts the swap partition in it, which is dumb, but what do you expect from a machine?06:36
ferossSeraVitae: ok try comment that out and add gnome-session.06:37
SeraVitaeyeah i just did06:37
SeraVitaei got some 'error in locking authority file /home/<usr>/.Xauthority06:37
mikeh_can anybody help me with a slow ubuntu system after it goes idle for a while06:37
sethkmikeh_, run top, see if anything is using up cpu06:37
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SeraVitaethat said though when i vnc'ed to it, i got TWM or whatever again, but the terminal open was the same as the terminal on the gnome box06:37
Arafangionmontablac: Actually, it's eclipse-cdt06:37
sethkmikeh_, or other resources; top gives you a nice summary at the top06:38
montablack06:38
sethkmikeh_, see if the % idle is dropping when it slows up06:38
mikeh_top shows that only 1% cpu and 10%ram is used when the computer gets super slow06:38
ferossSeraVitae: ok hold a sec06:38
sethkmikeh_, hmm.  if you switch to a console, is the response normal?06:38
mikeh_i put in the boot parameters idle=poll06:38
sethkmikeh_, why did you do that?06:39
ChocoCid!qemu06:39
ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo06:39
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Ferret0547Console should never be slow06:39
pike_mikeh_: are you runnning ubuntu in virtual pc? :)06:40
mikeh_sethK; I have a Multiprocessor system and i heard that it helps SMC performance06:40
cl187ubuntu hates me06:40
Ferret0547I'm on 800mhz P3, i810e Integrated Graphics and USB 1.106:40
sethkmikeh_, I'm skeptical about that.  plus, don't fix a problem unless you see it.06:40
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sethkmikeh_, take that out, it's an unnecessary variable06:40
mikeh_the only thing that is super slow is the mouse and typing.  All programs and everything continues running like normal06:40
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Arafangionmontablac: So, what project do you intend to work on?06:40
sethkmikeh_, how can you know that if the mouse and typing are slow?06:41
montablacsimple game devolment,and mostly port my first game to linux06:41
ferossSeraVitae: do you have a System>prefs>remote desktop util?06:41
Arafangionmontablac: 2D, or 3D?06:41
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montablac2d,text based06:41
sethkmikeh_, you can tell that, if you get fast response in a console, but otherwise, that's just an unwaranted assumption06:41
SeraVitaefeross - yeah06:41
Arafangionmontablac: What libs does it use?06:41
SeraVitaejust checking it out now06:41
ferossSeraVitae: ok that one should get you where you want to go :)06:42
Arafangionmontablac: Could I have a look?06:42
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mikeh_sethk:  when i finally get the cursor over to a program shortcut and click on it it starts up lightning fast and quits just as fast as if i just rebooted when the computer acts normal06:42
montablacive got the game at school06:42
SeraVitaewell, i ran it, it says starting remote desktop in the tray, then nothing happens.06:42
montablacalong with the source06:42
SeraVitaeit just dissapears.06:42
sethkmikeh_, that only means it has started responding again.  it says nothing about why it was slow.06:42
Arafangionmontablac: Wow, no backup!06:42
mikeh_sethk:  it is just when the computer sits idle the only thing i see with super slow response is the cursor and the keyboard response06:42
Arafangionmontablac: Which compiler are you using on windows?06:42
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ferossSeraVitae: it might be in conflict with the current vncserver ... turn off the one you set up manually06:42
montablacoh no,we have 3 severs at school,i backed it up on those06:42
sethkmikeh_, ok, it _may_ be that the only slow thing is the cursor and the keyboard, but it may not.06:43
montablacg++06:43
suff0katewhats a good mp3 audio cd burner06:43
SeraVitaefeross - sure06:43
mikeh_sethk:  i agree.  it appears that is so.06:43
Sandmanhey guys ive got a question that google cant seem to solve06:43
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Arafangionmontablac: Good, then you don't have to change your code that much - except for various libraries.  That compiler uses the standards quite well.06:43
sethkmikeh_, the reason I say that is that I suspect that you would have already solved your problem if your assumptions were correct.06:43
Arafangionmontablac: msc does *wierd* things.06:43
ferossSeraVitae: also, when you make the changes there it turns on the service and it doesn't leave anything in the task panel.06:43
SeraVitaefeross - actually, i can't turn it off because my terminal won't open. "starting terminal....." and closes. like remote desktop.06:44
SeraVitaei think i might reboot.06:44
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sethkmikeh_, so don't assume.  does it always slow up after a known amount of time?06:44
Sandmanits not directly about ubuntu linux but about ssh on ubuntu06:44
montablachaha06:44
Ferret0547Errie SeraVitae06:44
SeraVitaeUhhhhhhhhhh. i don't have a shutdown or reboot option now.06:44
Hitmanxehehe06:44
Ferret0547just go to a tty06:44
montablacall my libs are the stuff newbs use06:44
sethkmikeh_, if you know that it _always_ slows up after, say, 15 minutes idle, then put it in console mode, wait 15 minutes, and see what happens when you start typing06:44
Mrfinally ubuntu is installing yay :)06:44
Arafangionmontablac: Infact, they have about 3 different standards of C++ now, and their docs never say which one.06:44
Sandmanyea sudo reboot will restart06:44
suff0katewhats a good recommended cd burner for .mp3 files?06:44
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SeraVitaei'd do that if i could get to a console06:45
ferossSeraVitae: doh! well you can go to terminal and "sudo reboot" right?06:45
montablacdam06:45
Sandmank3b works good06:45
montablacthey need to sort it out06:45
sethkMr, I told you about using text mode four hours ago.  if it is only installing now, it's because you waited four hours to try my suggestion  :)06:45
SeraVitaefeross - the entire gnome session stopped responding06:45
Mrno06:45
Mrdownloading06:45
ChocoCidhaha06:45
Arafangionmontablac: classic C++, Managed C++, and C++/CLI, which they just call C++, much to the annoyance of the C++ standards committie.06:45
ChocoCiddialup :(06:45
Mru told me that 2 hours ago06:45
sethkMr, I know, I'm teasing you06:45
mikeh_sethk i will and i will get back to you.06:45
Ferret0547SeraVitae, just go to a tty and then login and type "sudo reboot" or "sudo shutdown -r now"06:45
Mrlol06:45
ferossSeraVitae:  do ctr+alt+backspace06:45
SeraVitaeyeah that's what i did06:45
montablaclol06:45
mikeh_sethk:  if it does what else should i try06:45
montablacim usin clasic06:45
Sandmanhey anyone good with ssh?06:45
SeraVitaeyeah, it freaked out a bit trying to stop the gnome dm06:45
sethkmikeh_, you mean if you don't see the slowdown?06:46
ferossSandman: I'm aswsome with it06:46
mikeh_sethk:  if i do see  the slow down06:46
darkaurawhat is the best program to use for playing dvds?06:46
pike_suff0kate: application? i use k3b06:46
montablacbut i want to learn how to incorpate assembler into my code06:46
Sandmanlol ty06:46
mikeh_darkaura:  ogle06:46
sethkmikeh_, I'd start looking at all the power save settings and options.06:46
Sandmanhow can i connect to /dev/tty0 instead of /dev/pts/tty406:46
sethkmikeh_, they are known to be questionable in the first place, and, since it happens when the box is idle, ...06:46
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Arafangionmontablac: There is practically little point in incorporating assembler into code.06:46
Sandmanim clueless06:46
darkauraand I don't need that one libss or whatever file installed?06:47
mikeh_sethk:  i have a boot option in grub to apm=off and no acpi06:47
montablacits for simple VGA programing06:47
mikeh_sethk that is noacpi06:47
sethkSandman, why would you care about which one you connect to?06:47
Mrif i really like ubuntu im going to get it on my laptop isnt here a way to partition a harddrive without formatting it?06:47
sethkmikeh_, those don't always work, unfortunately.06:47
Arafangionmontablac: Why do you want to do "simple VGA programming"?06:47
sethkmikeh_, for example, many boxes will still put the screen into power save mode, even if those are all turned off.06:47
mikeh_sethk:  how else do i turn off APM06:47
Sandmani want to have a counter strike server running in a tty so can easily connect and do direct commands06:47
montablacas an introduction to GFX programing06:47
Arafangionmontablac: Just use SDL06:48
sethkmikeh_, rebuild the kernel with the options off, or possibly rmmod the modules, if they are modules and not compiled in.06:48
montablacsdl?06:48
Arafangionmontablac: GFX programming is all about blits and meshes.06:48
darkauraand what should I install for divx window media realplayer quick time and such playback?06:48
mikeh_sethk_, how do i rmmod the modules.  I am relatively new at this06:48
sethkmikeh_, we don't really have any data saying it is a power save problem, so let's try to get more data first.06:48
Arafangionmontablac: No need to delve into the guts of the hardware.06:48
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montablachehe06:48
Arafangionmontablac: SDL is a 2D graphics library, very suitable for games.06:48
mikeh_sethk:  alright i will get back to ya06:48
sethkmikeh_, lsmod will show you what modules are loaded.   you can remove a module using the command    rmmod module_name06:48
montablacwhere can i learn this?06:48
Arafangionmontablac: If you want 3D, try OpenGL.06:49
montablacna06:49
sethkmikeh_, you do that at a command prompt, and you have to be root to insert or remove modules.06:49
wickedpuppymontablac, i also should mention there are already open source game engines ... no need to learn ..06:49
montablac2D first,then 3D06:49
Arafangionmontablac: 2D is wholly different to 3D ;)06:49
montablacopen source games engines are good,but i want to learn programing06:49
montablaci know06:49
wickedpuppymontablac, you mean with game engines you don't need to program ?06:50
Arafangionmontablac: Check out pyGame, I have never used it, but it seems to be quite good.06:50
mikeh_sethk: which module would it be06:50
montablacbut the guts are 2D is easer06:50
Arafangionmontablac: Incorrect.06:50
Ferret0547I'm going to leave IRC to remove xubuntu-desktop packages and as much of kubuntu-desktop as possible enough to allow kopete to run06:50
montablacoh?06:50
Ferret0547Because having all three messes everything up06:51
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Arafangionmontablac: Take a look at SDL, it's nearly the only sane choice of library for 2D games.06:51
sethkmikeh_, I'll have to look up the module names.  Give me a few minutes, I have to walk a dog first.06:51
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montablaci will,but first i goda learn where to learn it06:52
sethkmikeh_, if you have kernel source installed, you can run    make xconfig       (not to actually compile the kernel, just to see what the options are)06:52
sethkmikeh_, when you highlight an option, the corresponding module name appears in the help window.06:52
mikeh_sethk: will you still be here in a half hour06:52
sethkmikeh_, probably, unless I get diverted with some paying support.06:52
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Arafangionmontablac: http://www.libsdl.org/index.php06:52
SeraVitaefeross - remote desktop thingy worked. but it uses a different port again06:53
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SeraVitaeoh nice, it uses the default vnc port. all working now :D06:53
SeraVitaethanks!06:53
montablacdam im unluckey06:53
mikeh_sethk: when i type make xconfig i get make *** no rule to make target xconfig06:53
Arafangionmontablac: How so?06:53
motinWhat sort of hash is used to generate passwords - more specifically the vino-server password? vino-preferences need X and i need to reset my password through ssh/cli06:53
unlucky1does anyone know anything about bcm43xx06:54
montablactwo words that strike feer into he hesarts of men06:54
montablachearts*06:54
montablacDIAL UP06:54
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Arafangionmontablac: What?06:54
montablacim on dial up06:54
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Arafangionmontablac: So?06:55
mikeh_sethk:  also, i am using the 2.6.15-23-686 because i get a kernel panic with smp on the 2.6.15-27-686 kernel.  any reason that might be?06:55
montablaci goda get 150+ MB of soft ware and libs06:55
montablacand port it all through a 56k conection06:55
Arafangionmontablac: What are you installing?06:56
ferossSeraVitae: ok, guess we should have used that from the getgo.06:56
Arafangionmontablac: Also, if this were Visual Studio, that'd be 3G ;)06:56
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montablacall that soft ware you recomended,along with the dependacys06:56
Arafangionmontablac: Try without eclipse.06:57
unlucky1when you add lines to rc.allow are they automatically allowed root access?06:57
montablacok06:57
mini_gamer1896a question, i upgraded to edgy last night, and my wifi card stopped being recognized (the only net connection for it; it worked fine under drapper).  These error codes show up during boot whenever i have it plugged in """ firmware_helper[2777] : main: error loading '/lib/firmware/acx/default/tiacx100' for device '/class/firmware/0000:02:00.0' with driver 'acx_pci' """ & """ firmware_helper[2751] : m06:57
mini_gamer1896ain: error loading '/lib/firmware/acx/default/tiacx100c0D' for device '/class/firmware/0000:02:00.0' with driver 'acx_pci' """  Also, there is another error code that pops up whenever i boot (i didn't get this with dapper either): """ [17179592.452000]  piix4_smbus 0000:00:07.3: IBM Laptop detected; this module may corrupt your serial eeprom! Refusing to load module! """06:57
Arafangionmini_gamer1896: STOP.06:57
Arafangionmini_gamer1896: Read /topic06:57
mini_gamer1896duh, sry06:57
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Arafangionmini_gamer1896: Additionally, see #ubuntu+106:58
mini_gamer1896quiet06:58
mini_gamer1896as is #kubuntu06:58
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ArafangionEdgy is still developmental, isn't it?06:59
mini_gamer1896yes, in b stage though06:59
SeraVitaehm, if i want to automatically set the owner/group of everything in a mountpoint06:59
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suff0kateK3B - cdrecord has no permission to open the device, you may use k3bsetup2 to solve this problem? what do i do?07:00
SeraVitaewhy wouldnt this work, in /etc/fstab07:00
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SeraVitae/dev/hdb1 /mnt/stuff ext3 rw,gid=1000,uid=1000,auto 0 007:00
SeraVitaeas soon as i mount it even with the user 1000 it changes back to root/root ownership07:00
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ferossSeraVitae: you could  "chown -R user:group /directory/tochange/"07:00
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montablacsweet,very little to DL now07:01
SeraVitaefeross - yeah, okay, that worked. thanks07:02
Arafangionmontablac: Eclipse is a monster.07:02
montablacso i noticed07:02
Arafangionmontablac: But it has it's fan club. :)07:02
pike_suff0kate: well you could do sudo k3b but im not sure thats the solution you wanted..07:02
montablaclol07:02
suff0katehow come i can't burn a cd with any of my progs?07:02
suff0kate /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris.07:03
suff0katescsidev: '1,0,0'07:03
suff0katescsibus: 1 target: 0 lun: 007:03
suff0kateError trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)... retrying in 1 second.07:03
suff0kateis what i get07:03
Arafangionsuff0kate: STOP07:03
Arafangionsuff0kate: See /topic07:03
suff0katethat doesn't help me and im sorry i didn't mean to spam07:03
Arafangionsuff0kate: I believe it mentions a pastebin07:04
pike_suff0kate: youre on edgy?07:04
suff0katewhat does that mean?07:04
Tru7hCould anybody give a brief explanation as to how I could go about imaging my USB flash drive with Ubuntu, then booting it from the flash drive?07:04
suff0katek3b07:04
Mrcan someone link me to the rules or the channel07:04
rob!rules07:04
suff0kateis what i'm using07:04
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines07:04
suff0katei get the same error with every audio burning software07:04
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suff0kateand i installed all the plugins07:04
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Arafangionsuff0kate: Why don't you just drag your files to your CD and click on 'Burn image" or whatever it's called?07:05
ferossTru7h: I think you should try DSL for that. just boot it and do F2 or F3 to see what the option is to boot in install moe07:05
pike_suff0kate: if you type groups in a terminal are you a member of cdrom?07:06
suff0katewill that make the audio cd?07:06
suff0kateyea07:06
suff0katesuff0kate adm dialout cdrom07:06
suff0kateso its there07:06
Tru7hfeross: I was thinking of using DSL as well, but do you know if I can get Ubuntu on there instead?07:07
jimFLGreetings all. Ubuntu newbie - how to start desktop in Ubuntu Dapper Drake server from cmd prompt after logging in?07:07
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pike_suff0kate: and youve got the libk3b2-mp3 package installed?07:07
suff0kateyea07:07
andrew__1Hey pals, I just rebooted my server and now mysql has the error "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111)"07:08
ferossTru7h: maybe with the livecd.. does the alternate iso of ubuntu mention anything like that07:08
pike_suff0kate: and sudo k3b gives same error or works?07:08
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Flannel!tell Tru7h about install07:08
_grego_hi all07:08
Mrthe alternate iso works perfect for me07:08
Tru7hfeross: I dunno, I can't get my LiveCD to work on my computer.07:08
FlannelTru7h: that talks about a bunch of methods to install/boot07:08
MrI could help u with that07:08
Mrlol07:09
Tru7hThanks, Flannel.07:09
Mrbeen online all day having that problem07:09
Mrwhat is it doing when you reboot with the cd in the drive?07:09
FlannelTru7h: might not cover USB, I know it covers installing from USB though.  Oh, and installing to an external HD... that might be your best lead07:09
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Mrwhy cant he just burn the image to a cd?07:09
SqueeIs there any simple way to set up an irc server?07:10
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ArafangionMr: He wants to do an audio CD.07:10
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_grego_to play rm/ram audio files, i installed the linux version of realplayer 10 but when i play an audio file, i have an error about the audio device (it seems allready use by an other application). How to resolv this ?07:10
Mrooo07:10
Tru7hI can't boot anything on my computer from a CD, the master drive isn't functional.07:10
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wickedpuppymaster drive is the cdrom ?07:10
Mrooo07:10
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suff0katepike_: sudo k3b worked thank you so much i've been trying to figure it out all day thank you07:11
Tru7hI have two CD drives. The one that boots CDs is the one that doesn't work.07:11
Mrim not sure but wouldnt you go into BIOs and switch what it checks first07:11
Mr?07:11
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_grego_or may be it exist other solutions to play rm/ram audio files ?07:11
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MrI know my computer has a setting like 1st Boot - Cd rom drive 2nd - hard drive07:12
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pike_suff0kate: np you shouldnt have to use it but its a problem ive had before as well07:12
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harrismok I seriously have my boot loader messed up. Each time I boot now it goes into a grub menu. The same menu you get from typing grub in a terminal window. Can someone please tell me how to re-install the grub boot loader?07:12
andrew__1Hey pals, I just rebooted my server and now mysql has the error "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111)" I'm using Ubuntu 6.06 and mysql-4.107:12
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adrian__HOLA07:12
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adrian__COMO PUEDO BAJAR EL MESSANGER EN UBUNTU SI ESTA TODO MUY PROTEJIDO07:13
wickedpuppyTru7h, kindly do as Mr suggested :P07:13
harrismanyone? :/07:13
wickedpuppy!es07:13
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.07:13
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cool_nickharrism: on which drive do you have ubuntu?!?07:13
Tru7hMr: I've looked through my BIOS. There's only one option for CD booting.07:14
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pike_man its 1am07:14
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harrismI guess the default during installation, hda1? I only have one hard drive, one partition for ubuntu07:14
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Jesse1984harrism: i have a similar problem, my gub is all up shit creek, i need to re-install or reset it or something..07:15
cool_nickharrism: try this07:15
Jesse1984gub=grub Oops07:15
cool_nickharrism: sudo grub install no--floppy07:15
harrismi'm using the live cd right now07:15
harrismok I will try07:15
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Flannel!tell Jesse1984 about grub07:15
cool_nickharrism: do you have any other os?07:15
SqueeDoes anyone here know hwo to set up an IRC server?07:16
andrew__1google.com07:16
FlannelSquee: I imagine theres an irc server in the repositories07:16
harrismno, just ubuntu07:16
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Squeeflannel: there is but i have no idea how to set it up07:16
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wickedpuppySquee, search in synaptic for irc server07:16
harrismok, I am at a grub menu now07:16
cool_nickharrism: mount the drive first and then try the command. . .07:16
Flanneltell harrism07:16
Flannelack07:16
asdefa nice c++ editor for xubuntu ?07:16
Flannel!tell harrism about grub07:16
wickedpuppyFlannel, yes there is ... including the freenode irc server :P07:16
asdefi've to subst some code from a header file07:16
darkaurahow do I play dvds with totem?07:17
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Squee!ircd-Hybrid07:17
AlienXdarkaura, you need to have libdvdcss installed. Check the wiki07:17
wickedpuppySquee, kindly get it from the repo ... btw dancer and hyperion also not bad07:17
FlannelSquee: the wiki might have info on a IRC server, you might check that, if not... google, or whichever server you choose might have a support channel here, and stuff.07:17
harrismwhen I do-> sudo mount /dev/hda1 it says it cannot find it.. but I mounted it like this before when the problem first came up..07:17
Arafangionasdef: Define "Nice"07:18
ohoeldoes anyone remember what the front row/media centre-ish app by the fluendo guys is called?07:18
Squeealright, thanks07:18
asdefArafangion: something like kwrite, but without kde and stuff07:18
asdefsomething like textpad for win3207:18
ohoelah, elisa07:18
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Flannelasdef: mousepad... I think it's called07:18
Arafangionasdef: Why don't you, you know, pick one? There are billions of choices.07:18
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cool_nickharrism: do you have a SATA drive?07:18
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asdefi always think anything i do could be done better07:18
harrismno, it's an IDE07:18
asdefi use design patterns if there are some07:19
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harrismon master, just one hd07:19
Flannelasdef: mousepad is the xubuntu text editor07:19
asdefok thanks07:19
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Gabby_Hayesharrism   does  fdisk /dev/hda  work?07:19
Arafangionasdef: My favorite is vim 7.007:19
asdefArafangion: i use jed for console apps07:19
cool_nickharrism: sudo fdisl -l07:19
harrismit is waiting for a command now07:19
Arafangionasdef: Does jed have a spell checker? ;)07:19
AlienXvim 7.0 checks for spelling?07:20
harrismok so exit this?07:20
cool_nickharrism: yep07:20
ArafangionAlienX: Yes.07:20
AlienXArafangion, sweet!07:20
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asdefArafangion: to write code i use eclipse or visual studio07:20
asdefthey have07:20
ArafangionAlienX: So does vim 6, actually, but vim 7 is much better.07:20
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darkaurathe weird thing is I do have Libdvdcss2 and libdvdread3 installed07:21
harrismok it shows dev/hda1 with the asterisk07:21
ArafangionAlienX: Heck, vim 7 has *tabs*07:21
AlienXArafangion, i'm just "old school" I guess :)07:21
cool_nickharrism: the command you used to mount plase. . .07:21
FlannelGabby_Hayes: believe Xchat has a spell checker extension doohickey.  I know others do.07:21
ArafangionAlienX: Me too, but I'm not past recognising improvements. :)07:21
harrismsudo mount /dev/hda107:21
asdefvim is a pain in the ass to write large projects07:21
asdefwith uml diagrams and stuff07:21
Arafangionasdef: How so?07:21
harrismmount:can't find .. it says07:21
asdefmultiple classes etc.07:21
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AlienXArafangion, heh, I'll have to read up on this spell checking and tabs stuff ;)07:21
cool_nickharrism: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/07:21
harrismok that worked07:22
harrism:D07:22
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harrismnow reinstall grub?07:22
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cool_nickharrism: now use the command which i gave you earlier. . .07:22
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ChocoCid!edgy07:23
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule07:23
Gabby_Hayesthxs  Flannel07:23
ChocoCid!schedule07:23
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule07:23
jason_ohh speaking of grub, maybe I just missed the answer to the question I have.07:23
harrismgrub install no--floppy   <- this one?07:23
cool_nickharrism: yep07:23
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cool_nickharrism: don't forget sudo07:23
ozzloyis there a way for me to connect to someone's itunes share on ubuntu?07:23
jason_err opps guess I need to go to the edgy channel sorry07:23
harrismok, I did sudo grub install no--floppy    and it took me to the grub menu07:24
harrismgrub>07:24
cool_nickharrism: root (hd0,0)07:24
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ArrenLexIs there a command to print the full path of a file? i.e. for a file "/tmp/dir/file", if you're in /tmp/dir, how can you get <command> file = /tmp/dir/file?07:25
AlienXozzloy, not to the best of my knowledge07:25
harrismFilesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x8307:25
cool_nickharrism: setup (hd0)07:25
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MrJoneshello this is Mr still i dont know my name is in use07:25
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AlienXMrJones, do you have your nick registered?07:26
Gabby_Hayescan anyone find  sun-java5-jre  on any repository?  (have the universe and multiverse in /etc/apt/sources.list  ... couldn't find it.07:26
harrismchecking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists yes... a few more "exists yes" then is says "succeeded" next it states "running install" and it says "succeeded done"07:26
rredd4when i try to get into winecfg in console, i get this...   err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!  and this     Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.  Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.  sorry, no one in #winehq is answering me.  i use dapper07:26
MrJonesI like Ubuntu alot so far umm i use my tv as my monitor and when i run a program like the bottom is cut off07:26
MrJonesno not YET07:26
cool_nickharrism: exit, reboot and enjoy :)07:26
ArrenLexGabby: multiverse.07:26
AlienXGabby_Hayes, apt-cache search sun-java :)07:26
harrism:D thanks a ton, you just saved all my data structure projects + java GUI projects for school!07:27
ferossArrenLex: find gives you full path.07:27
ArrenLexrredd4: are you trying to run winecfg as root?07:27
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cool_nickharrism: new to ubuntu?07:27
Arafangionharrism: No backups?07:27
harrismwell, I had it on a flash, but didn't back it up because i recently saved a ton of photos on it07:27
ArrenLexfeross: with what arguments? I tried find. "find file" in /tmp/dir yields "file"07:28
tj_whats the best way to back up an entire partition (or all the files within)07:28
harrismI was planning on getting an external hd for backup07:28
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rredd4ArrenLex yes07:28
ferossArrenLex:  find /tmp/dir -name filename -print07:28
Gabby_HayesAlienX  .. returns  nothing  :-(07:28
Gabby_Hayeseven after an update07:28
harrismI just built my new machine and installed ubuntu, ran into problems with the boot loader after trying to install diablo 2 in wine07:28
AlienXharrism, make sure that if you do that, the drive is formatted as fat32 or ext207:28
AlienXGabby_Hayes, do you have multiverse in your sources.list?07:29
harrismdoes not like NTFS?07:29
ArrenLexrredd4: well stop it.07:29
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rredd4ohh?07:29
cool_nickharrism: reiserfs is aleays better. .07:29
tj_alienx: can't you just copy the partition, and have it keep the same everything?07:29
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MrJonesis there a way to fix my problem?07:29
AlienXharrism, nope, the write support to ntfs is bad07:29
asdefdeadbeef@deadbeef-desktop:~$ gaim07:29
asdefGaim has segfaulted and attempted to dump a core file.07:29
asdefThis is a bug in the software and has happened through07:29
asdefno fault of your own.07:29
asdefis this normal ?07:29
AlienXtj_, what are you referring to?07:29
darkauraGabby_Hayes - here is something that might help http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation&Itemid=3807:30
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harrismwill remember that, going to reboot now, thanks again07:30
ChocoCid!automatix07:30
ubotuautomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.07:30
tj_alienx: the backing up files on external hd07:30
ChocoCidfrom what i understand, people in here don't like automatix very much07:30
Flanneldarkaura: do not recommend automatix here.07:30
ChocoCidbecause it's unsafe07:30
ChocoCid!easyubuntu07:30
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.07:30
ChocoCidprobably want that instead07:30
Gabby_HayesAlienX    yes:   deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse07:30
SqueeWhat is the benifit of using gksudo for gui programs?07:30
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AlienXtj_, doesn't do much good if you can't write to the drive07:31
ChocoCidsafer07:31
Gabby_Hayesthxs  darkaura07:31
AlienXGabby_Hayes, weird.07:31
Gabby_Hayesbrb07:31
ChocoCidi think if you use sudo for gui programs, it doesn't exit sudo when you exit the program07:31
rredd4ArrenLex trying to do this     If you have problems, edit your ~/.wine/config file to add the following lines in the bottom of your config file:  [AppDefaults\\paltalk.exe\\DllOverrides]   comctl32"="native"  commctrl"="native"  "riched20"="native"  "riched32"="native"07:31
ChocoCidwhich means you're still root'ed when you shouldn't be07:31
AlienXGabby_Hayes, you've run apt-get update recently, right?07:31
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ChocoCidi think there's more though07:31
Half-LeftSquee, I thought that was obvious07:31
ChocoCidfor what it's worth, though, a lot of stuff says to do sudo gedit, so...07:31
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rredd4ArrenLex   so how do i get into wine config?07:32
MrJonesOk im about to need alot of help now i want to install ubuntu on my laptop my laptop harddrive is stepup as 104GB partition 1 and 16GB recovery partition 2 so is there a way i can make a partition 3 without formatting any of them so i can run ubuntu07:32
raiXeri installed an update for xkeyboard and now i get this message everytime i log in to gnome "Error activating XKB configuration.".  is there anything to fix it?07:32
johan1Can anyone tell me where I change the default settings for applications for sound and video PLZ?07:32
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darkauraI installed gxine and now I can play dvds fine07:32
Squeeoh ok that makes sense thanks chococid07:32
ajuki123i cant change my root password. i used the sudo passwd and it said it changed but then when ubuntu asks the root password just the old one works07:32
ferossSquee: you mean gksu ... in any case, it's good for using in shortcuts because it brings up a nice ui.. other than that it's the same.. you can run sudo gedit from the termininal or gksu and it will still come up as root..07:32
deadly_venomMrJones: are you on windows ?07:32
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amaethonsystem>Preferences07:32
ArrenLexfeross: that works if you know what directory you're in. What if you don't? The user specifies the string /bin/ping. There's no point in searching for that string in /tmp; it's already a complete path. How do I determine that?07:32
AlienXMrJones, use gparted and you can do it but i'd suggest backing up your data07:32
MrJonesyeah07:33
ChocoCidyou can make the partitions smaller07:33
ArrenLexrredd4: just run winecfg as normal user.07:33
deadly_venomMrJones:  use  partition magic07:33
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tj_mr jones: use the live cd, from withing run gparted, then resize the partition fo choice07:33
ChocoCidthat's actually one of the options in the installer07:33
rredd4ArrenLex   ok07:33
MrJonesdamn07:33
rramosHi every one07:33
MrJonesis there a program that doesnt delete my data07:33
MrJonesbecause i dont feel like backing up07:33
ferossArrenLex: if you do "find / -name filenameorexpression -print07:33
MrJonesthat could take a day or 207:33
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ChocoCidheh07:33
ChocoCidi didn't back up my windows07:33
AlienXMrJones, nothing is 100% safe07:33
ArrenLexfeross: that would require searching the entire filesystem!!07:33
ChocoCidas long as you're smart enough to NOT check "format" you should be fine07:34
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Gabby_Hayesyes, AlienX  ..... especially when the apt-get install starts to get slow07:34
rramoshow can i acces a tape drive connected to de floppy bus ?07:34
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rramoshow can i acces a tape drive connected to de floppy bus ?07:34
Yggdrasilhow do tell what process is using one of my drives ... its kind of crashed i want to remount it07:34
MrJonesso like thats the chance of me losing my data07:34
bug_i came into this late.. what's the question about partitioning/installing?07:34
johan1My TOTEM doesn't work so I want to set another program as Default audio/video player - where do I set default programs PLZ???07:34
ferossArrenLex: I don't understand what you need then...07:34
ChocoCidwhen partitioning? probably like 1%07:34
AlienXGabby_Hayes, hmm that seems really weird to me. It should be working just fine. Maybe one of the repos is out of sync?07:34
ChocoCidyour hard drive would have to fail in order for you to lose your data, i believe07:34
MrJoneso so I think i might take that chance07:34
ChocoCidat the least, i suggest defragging before partitioning if you haven't done it in a while07:35
AlienXChocoCid, wrong07:35
rramoscan someone helpme with the tape drive?07:35
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AlienXMrJones, it's an option and I've never lost data doing it but I've heard of situations where it has happened07:35
bug_johan: there's something called "preferred applications" in the system menu.. that may do it07:35
MrJonesdo they lose it all?07:35
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tj_how can i make a backup.tgz of my system withought having it attemp to back itself up, as well as some other directories07:35
AlienXMrJones, sometimes the whole partiton table gets screwed up.07:35
ajuki123can anyone help me?07:35
ArrenLexfeross: the user specifies a file which exists, using a path the shell will recognise from that point. All I want to know is the complete path to it. Searching for it through the whole filesystem would take a long time; I already know it exists and where it is, I just need to put that into a full path.07:35
MrJoneswhat program did u use07:36
Flannel!tell tj_ about backup07:36
AlienXajuki123, ask your question and if someone can help, they will07:36
ajuki123i cant change my root password. i used the sudo passwd and it said it changed but then when ubuntu asks the root password just the old one works07:36
AlienXMrJones, i *always* use gparted07:36
bug_do sudo su -07:36
Flannelajuki123: when did ubuntu ask for a root password?07:36
bug_then use passwd07:36
tj_i attempted to use: tar cvpzf backup.tgz / --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys        withought any succes07:36
ArrenLexfeross: like, if the user is in a folder and types "../file", the shell will recognise where the file is. Can I make that into a full path?07:36
Squeedont do sudo su do sudo -s if you ahve to07:36
AlienXajuki123, "su -" then type 'passwd root'07:36
johan1Thanks Bug - but that only lists email, browser and terminal - I've looked everywhere!07:36
bug_flannel: you can make a root pw if you want07:36
MrJonesyou all will find out if i messed up if i dont come back after a hour07:36
ajuki123Flannel, like when i want to use synaptic07:36
Flannelajuki123: it's still asking for your sudo password.07:37
MrJonesnever mind07:37
Flannelajuki123: if all you've done is set a root password07:37
MrJonesim not going to do it i really dont even need it on my laptop at the moment ill do it another day07:37
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bug_johan: ah.. try rightclicking on a media file and look for something like "open with other application"07:37
AlienXMrJones, don't let me scare you, i'm just giving you fair warning07:37
_rramoshi everyone07:38
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johan1done that ... it wants me to find one but I have no idea where - looked everywhere!07:38
bug_johan: you should be able to specify something else from there (be sure to check "always use...")07:38
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MrJonesi know im glad you warned me but right now the only reason i was going to stick it on my laptop is because I like it so far and the games07:38
lsoiiscan anyone tell me how I can get webcam support for Gaim?07:38
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_rramosI need help with a tape drive07:38
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ferossArrenLex: hmm. maybe ls will do it. just ran man ls but didn't see anythnig obvious07:38
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bug_mrjones: i recently converted a 500 gb ntfs drive that was nearly full to ext3 safely with gparted... JUST BE SURE THAT THE DRIVE IS NOT MOUNTED!!!07:38
ArrenLexfeross: combed over ls' manpage thoroughly. It didn't help.07:38
MrJonesim just going to wait till i can backup all my stuff or prob next time I format ( like every 3 -6 months )07:38
AlienX_rramos, ask a specific question and maybe someone will have a specific answer07:38
darkauraokay how do I set it if I want my mp3 player when pluged in to be used in amorak instead of the rythem box music player07:39
MrJonesthat what drive is not mounted?07:39
AlienXMrJones, that would probably be best :)07:39
_rramosthanks07:39
ACUI want to download an entire site with the webstreams on it how can I do it ?07:39
_rramosmi tape drive is in the floppy bus, how can I access it ?07:39
bug_does anyone know how to make the realtime tail of dmesg thing stop taking up ctrl-alt-f8?07:39
MrJonesAlienX do you have msn? messanger?07:39
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SqueeIs it possible to have a linux dhcp server deny a mac address an ip?  I dont need to know how right now I just need to know if it is possible07:40
AlienXMrJones, yes.07:40
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ajuki123Flannel, none of these things worked07:40
Flannelajuki123: none of what things?07:40
ivxhey what is the command to lanch file browser as admin07:40
johan1When I click on a movie application - TOTEM comes up as the default - Does anyone know where I can change the default to something else? PLZ????07:40
_rramosmi tape drive is in the floppy bus, how can I access it ?07:40
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bug_mrjones: the drive that you're trying to resize07:40
AlienXajuki123, you just want to change your root password or your user password?07:40
Flannelivx: gksudo nautilus, just be careful.07:40
ajuki123Flannel, sudo su, then passwd07:40
Squeedont sudo su07:41
naliothajuki123: please don't do that07:41
Squeesudo -s07:41
ajuki123AlienX, root password07:41
ivxflannel thanks07:41
Flannelajuki123: sudo still asks for your user password not your root password07:41
naliothajuki123: please don't do that07:41
unix_infideldoes anyone know if ubuntu has a listing of companies that have support contracts with ubuntu (eg run ubuntu server and desktop platforms)??07:41
Squeeer sudo -i07:41
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AlienXajuki123, donot use "sudo su" just type "su"07:41
nalioth!tell ajuki123 about root07:41
darius_Is there any magic to accessing Serial ports in Ubuntu?  I'm trying minicom, etc .. but can't get a null modem connection to work07:41
_rramosDoes enyone know how to access a tape drive connected to the floppy connector?07:41
amaethonI remember tape drives07:42
amaethonwow07:42
jbmigel_rramos mount it?07:42
amaethonthose are all07:42
amaethonold07:42
AlienXunix_infidel, you might be able to ask on the forum. I'm sure someone could give you an idea07:42
Squeealienx: check pm07:42
ajuki123Flannel, why would synaptic ask for my user password?07:42
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^majik^_rramos: check dmesg to see what its device name is07:42
AlienXSquee, i don't have any pms at the moment07:42
NormalCould someone help me? I can only boot without freezing with 2.6.12-9, so I can't use Nvidia glx(which tries to install 2.6.15-23), so I can't run Blender and any other Opengl apps. Is there anything I can do?07:42
Flannelajuki123: because it uses sudo.07:42
naliothajuki123: your user password is the same password that runs the system07:42
ajuki123Alien, su dont work07:42
_rramosjbmigel i dont know the divice in /dev07:42
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naliothajuki123: read what ubotu sent you, please07:42
ChocoCidthis is ubuntu, you use sudo not su07:43
jbmigel_rramos search dmesg as majik said07:43
bug_normal: install module-assistant07:43
ArrenLexfeross: any more tips?07:43
AlienXajuki123, take nalioth's advice07:43
_rramosmajik you know a key word to grep into dmesg?07:43
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asdxhi07:43
asdxis there a way to download youtube videos with opera?07:43
Gabby_Hayesok, I commented EVERYTHING out of my  sources.list except the two with the universe &  multiverse places: and got: failed to fetch:  404 [IP: 195.248.90.54:80]   :-(07:43
MrJonesalienx look in the private window07:43
compotatojI had sound earlier today and then I restarted X with Ctrl + Alt + Backspace (I think that is when it stopped working). Now my sound does not work and I tried restarting. What should I do?07:43
Tru7hHow long should Ubuntu take to boot from a Live CD on a 2000 computer?07:43
Arafangion_rramos: You'll want context, use "dmesg | less" instead, and search that.07:43
^majik^_rramos: maybe "tape" or "fd", since it may show up under the floppy drive (fd) device name.07:43
bug_asdx: there's a script on rootprompt.org that downloads youtube videos07:44
NormalOkay, installing now(thank you!)07:44
SeraVitaehey guys i just got told i need an 'xml parser' by azureus. like, any suggestions07:44
^majik^_rramos:  yes, I would normally do what Arafangion said07:44
AlienXMrJones, i still haven't gotten one. type "/query alienx"07:44
_rramosthanks let me llok07:44
asdxbug_: i need something easy for a girl07:44
_rramoslook07:44
naliothAlienX: MrJones is not identifed, and cannot send PM or /notice messages07:44
Arafangion_rramos: Generally, / starts searches in most apps.07:44
ferossArrenLex: nothing comes to mind other than maybe a little perl script but I guess there has to be a better way.07:44
amaethonI havent been on IRc in the longest07:44
amaethonwow07:44
seamus7anyone familiar with xubuntu (xfce) ... the irc #xubuntu channel is asleep :( ... I removed all my panels on my desktop but now I can't get them back ... I went to the settings manager and clicked on panel but nothing happened ...07:44
AlienXnalioth, ah :)07:44
bug_asdx: it's simple.. just run the program with the url as the argument.. you could probably put a link to it on the desktop/panel and drag the url to it from the browser...07:45
AlienXMrJones, identify with nickserv and try again :)07:45
MrJonesnever mind07:45
^majik^Arafangion: you can search inside of less?07:45
MrJonesthey are blocked07:45
MrJonesthe network told me07:45
nalioth!tell MrJones about register07:45
MrJonesPrivate messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )07:45
bug_seamus: i'm a bit familiar.. i believe that there's a file that you can delete to restore the default settings07:45
MrJonesi will soon07:46
seamus7bug_: oh ok07:46
MrJonesI want to try something first07:46
MrJonesbrb07:46
_grego_hi all, which solution i have to play *.ram files on my update ubuntu07:46
naliothMrJones: please don't spam us with such a common  message, we all know what it is telling you07:46
bug_seamus: give me one minute07:46
seamus7bug_: ok07:46
Arafangion^majik^: Of course.07:46
ChocoCid!restricted formats > grego07:46
MrJoneso sorry07:46
^majik^Arafangion: I didn't know that..  cool tip.07:46
_grego_!restricter formats07:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about restricter formats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:46
Arafangion^majik^: :)07:46
ChocoCid!restricted formats > _grego_07:46
ChocoCidthere we go07:46
_grego_thx07:47
ChocoCidsilly underscores :P07:47
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^majik^Arafangion: my vi/vim experience helped me with aptitude (but of course the help page is one keystroke away)07:47
rowanjlHas anyone been able to build the latest Rhythmbox release?07:47
bug_seamus: okay this should work:   rm -rf ~/.config/xfce4-session07:47
seamus7bug_: let me try that .. thx07:47
Arafangion^majik^: I'm used to apt, but aptitude is a very nice package manager.07:48
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amaethoni dunno if i have aquestion.. i have everyhitng all setup even XGL with Beryl.. what should I do now LoL?07:48
ChocoCidplay with your bouncy windows!07:48
amaethonLoL07:48
amaethondid that07:48
davieyHi, does anybody know how i can find out if my NIC is capiable of PXE?07:48
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Arafangionamaethon: Come back with a question, without saying 'lol'.07:48
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dragonfyre13hey guys.07:48
dragonfyre13I'mn back.07:48
ChocoCidamaethon : learn to code, write some programs07:48
ChocoCid:)07:48
rowanjlIt keeps giving me this message: "Please add the files: codeset.m4 gettext.m4 glibc21.m4 iconv.m4 isc-posix.m4 lcmessage.m progtest.m4 from the /usr/share/aclocal directory to your autoconf macro directory or directly to your aclocal.m4 file."07:49
bug_sorry to repeat myself, but does anyone know how to remove the dmesg thing from virtual terminal 8?07:49
Arafangionamaethon: I suggest Python07:49
dragonfyre13ChaosFan: you don't know how to code?07:49
rowanjlI've got no idea where the autoconf macro directory is07:49
^majik^btw, hi rowan  ;-)07:49
sethkdaviey, the only way is to consult the manufacturer's specs07:49
rowanjl:P07:49
bug_amaethon: you could always play some games ... frozen bubble and planeshift are two good ones07:49
amaethonpython huh.. I know nothing about python.. i guess i could dl a python for dummies book07:49
ChocoCider, if that was directed to me, i don't know how to code "relevant" stuff07:49
dragonfyre13amaethon: as long as you use Ubuntu, python is likely your best option07:49
sethkdaviey, unless you get lucky and find a reference to it in a kernel source file.07:49
davieysethk:  thanx :(07:49
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ChocoCidpython for dummies? heck no07:49
ChocoCidhttp://www.python.org/about/gettingstarted/07:49
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ChocoCidopen source dammit- you don't have to BUY anything07:49
amaethoni was thinkin of switchin to slackware 11.0 (dont flame me guys) hehe07:49
dragonfyre13amaethon: check out the python site. It has a tutorial under the CCS liscence.07:50
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sethkamaethon, I use slackware on some of my servers07:50
GoldKeeperanyone toy with  ruby at all ?07:50
sethkamaethon, never read anything that says "for dummies"07:50
dragonfyre13ChocoCid: umm, not open source. Creative commons.07:50
sethkGoldKeeper, sure, I've used it a lot07:50
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ChocoCider07:50
darkauraI just have a usb mp3 player and Amorack doesn't detect it is there a way I can make it?07:50
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amaethonhaha seth07:50
ChocoCidyeah, ok, i guess "open source" is a bad term to use for stuff that's not code07:51
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ArafangionGoldKeeper: Ruby is an impressive language - but python is more mature.07:51
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amaethonim gonna go read up on python LD07:51
GoldKeepermore mature eh,07:51
amaethon:D07:51
dragonfyre13ChocoCid: It POs the people who are FOSS junkies. I'm not, but some are.07:51
amaethonlemme see if I remember IRc commands now.. hmm07:52
ChocoCidbleh07:52
ChocoCidit's Free, how's that ;[07:52
lsoiiscan anyone tell me how I can get webcam support for Gaim?07:52
sethkamaethon, GoldKeeper python has more support libraries, certainly.  but you don't have to use one or the other, pick the one best for each task07:52
ArafangionGoldKeeper: Yes, particularly in regards to documentation and modules.07:52
dragonfyre13amaethon: if you're programming a game, check out pygame.07:52
ArafangionGoldKeeper: wxRuby is nearly a joke.07:52
AlienXlsoiis, there is no webcam support in gaim afaik07:52
amaethonokie07:52
amaethonthanks07:52
dragonfyre13lsoiis: hey, what protocal?07:52
ChocoCidi really need to get started with programming but i'm lazy :P07:52
lsoiisAlienX: so how can I get webcam support?07:52
lsoiisdragonfyre13: eh?07:53
sethkChocoCid, python is a great place to start07:53
sethkChocoCid, a good language, and you can get started with it quite quickly.07:53
ChocoCidwell07:53
AlienXlsoiis, in gaim or what? what protocol are you using? aim/msn/yahoo/gmail/what?07:53
ChocoCidi've programmed STUFF before07:53
dragonfyre13lsoiis: MSN, AIM, etc.07:53
ChocoCidas in, i know how to program a TI-83/84 well07:53
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sethkChocoCid, that's actually quite a bit harder.  :)07:53
ChocoCidthe problem is, as i'm an engineering major, my introduction level course to CS was in... matlab07:53
lsoiisdragonfyre13: MSN user trying to get webcam support with me! Any ideas?07:53
dragonfyre13ChocoCid: that's not coding.07:53
ChocoCid"Computer Science for Engineers"07:54
ChocoCidno, see, we DID coding07:54
dragonfyre13lsoiis: amsn07:54
lsoiisAlienX: MSN07:54
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lsoiisdragonfyre13: amsn?07:54
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AlienXlsoiis, amsn has webcam support iirc07:54
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ChocoCidi mean, we did freaking object-oriented programming in matlab ok07:54
Rookie_lsoiis - try amsn07:54
dragonfyre13lsoiis: grab the package from the repos. I'm pretty sure it handles webcams, as it is tailored to MSN Specifically.07:54
lsoiisAlienX: so I install amsn?07:54
ChocoCidsudo apt-get install amsn07:54
ArafangionChocoCid: THese days, many SE grads don't have a clue of any form of programming other than OO.07:54
ChocoCidi'm fairly sure that's not what it was MEANT to do but we did it!07:54
AlienXlsoiis, yes07:54
BelialMkIIIt does, Though can be tempremental with some cams, . It it messes up the CVS version worked for me07:54
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lsoiisdragonfyre13: I just tyed sudo apt-get install amsn07:55
ivxif i am trying to host multiple domains on the same server, do i have to do anything else but modify the httpd.config07:55
dragonfyre13lsoiis: get it from synaptic, or apt-get install amsn07:55
lsoiisits downloading something07:55
lsoiisty :)07:55
ChocoCidyeah, that would be amsn07:55
lsoiisso then I run amsn?07:55
dragonfyre13lsoiis: np.07:55
ChocoCidsure07:55
lsoiisdragonfyre13: ok downloading now07:55
ChocoCidapps-internet-amsn07:55
Mrdoes anyone know how to setup a irc server?07:55
dragonfyre13lsoiis: it will be under internet in the apps menu.07:55
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ChocoCidin the future, what you can do is applications-add/remove programs to browse a list of programs available to you07:55
MilkteaSo I tried to create a new partition for ubuntu07:55
jimFLThis may be obvious, but not to me: How to use apt-get or aptitude with .deb files on a CD or in file system rather than from a URL? Can't find anything in help/faq's...07:56
Milkteabut both PartitionMagic and the Ubuntu partitioner told me that there was some error on my hard drive and wouldn't partition07:56
dragonfyre13jimFL: dpkg -i instead of apt-get install.07:56
MilkteaHow do I fix this?07:56
jimFLThx!07:56
dragonfyre13dpkg is the local type of apt-get.07:56
ArafangionMr: apt-get install ejabberd07:56
ArafangionMr: Oh, wait, did you mean irc?07:56
lsoiisdragonfyre13: cheers :)07:56
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dragonfyre13lsoiis: no problem. Have fun!07:57
ArafangionjimFL: Is it a repo, or is it just a random collection of .deb's?07:57
MilkteaAnyone know how to fix my partiton problem :/07:57
AlienXMilktea, it would help to know what the specific error was07:57
MilkteaOkay, I can check again07:57
Milkteabut I won't be back07:58
Milkteafor like07:58
Milktea30 minutes07:58
Gabby_HayesMilktea   what brand of  HD?07:58
MilkteaNot sure07:58
dragonfyre13Milktea: it would also help to let us know what you used to partition it,if there were others on it before, etc.07:58
lsoiisdragonfyre13: yes ;)07:58
ArafangionjimFL: In the former, add the url, if it exists, by definition, it has a url.07:58
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MilkteaI have partitioned it before07:58
ArafangionjimFL: In the later, see man dpkg-scanpackages07:58
Milkteawith no errors07:58
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dragonfyre13lsoiis: ;)07:58
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Milkteai even ran a windows chkdsk07:58
Milktea:/07:58
davieyIs it possible to move a HD running Ubuntu from one PC to another?07:59
dragonfyre13Arafangion: oh my god. dpkg-scanpackages? No. dpkg -i is all you need. Or gdeb.07:59
Milkteabrb07:59
Gabby_HayesMilktea  .. do you have another computer to put it in as a second HD ?07:59
se7enworthhi. how do I mount a my windows volume in dapper, and also have it permanently mounted for future use?07:59
Flannel!tell se7enworth about ntfs07:59
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ArrenLexse7worth: do you want to write to it, or read only?08:00
Flanneldaviey: sure.  You may need to do some tweaking to get it to work perfectly, but yes.08:00
davieyse7eveworth: is it Fat32 or NTFS?08:00
bug_i think that ntfsprogs includes the ntfs-3g drivers now....08:00
jimFLI'm trying to avoid downloading the desktop distribution onto a server install.  (Couldn't get desktop to access hard disk)08:00
dragonfyre13daviey: yes. There isn't copy protection on the HD with FOSS operating systems. You might get configuration errors if it's to different though.08:00
Arafangiondragonfyre13: He did say: apt-get or aptitude08:00
Gabby_Hayeshas anyone used the progarm   nftsprogs  (a linux program for NTFS)08:00
dragonfyre13Arafangion: BTW I think he08:01
davieyokay, thanks08:01
sethkGabby_Hayes, a bit, and I've also heard good things about it.08:01
rowanjlBah, I give up... I guess Rhythmbox has too many changes for a simple upgrade08:01
kmitch87Gabby_Hayes: sure08:01
FlanneljimFL: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will do it.08:01
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Arafangiondaviey: Copy protection with computer OS's just doesn't make sense.08:01
FlanneljimFL: You'll also need to grab a default (desktop) kernel too, you don't want the -server version08:01
Gabby_Hayessaw a reference to it,  but that was it,  a reference  :-(08:01
davieywith wasn't copy protection i was worried about, but the specific install not being capatialbe with different arch'08:02
dragonfyre13Arafangion: yeah, I think he's already using my suggestion though. He's just looking for something that he can install it with, and dpkg -i works fine. if you want to build a local repo (Don't come to the list for that. You have to be major techie) then you go to dpkg-scanpackages.08:02
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dragonfyre13daviey: how different?08:02
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Flanneldaviey: Oh, you're switcching total arches?  yeah, how different?08:02
davieytotally, Intel 700Mhz to AMD 2.4Ghz08:03
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Arafangiondragonfyre13: Sometimes I would consider using dpkg-scanpackages if I wanted to use somebody else's apt archives.08:03
dragonfyre13daviey: you'll be fine. Their both x86.08:03
davieyif you do a apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop, presumabably it removes all trace of the X?08:03
Arafangiondaviey: Oh, we thought you were talking different, as in, the other system is a Sparc.08:03
dragonfyre13Arafangion: I use it to, but I don't ever reccomend it for newbies.08:03
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davieydragonfyre:  isn't AMD k7?08:04
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dragonfyre13daviey: nope. Just removes the metapackage.08:04
Arafangiondragonfyre13: Nor do I, but I don't recommend newbies install distinct .deb's either.08:04
Flanneldaviey: nope.  ubuntu-desktop is a meta package... unless oyu installed it with aptitude, then depending, itll ask08:04
Flanneldaviey: AMD is, yes.  But k7 can use 686 kernels, and can use 386 kernels too.08:04
davieyhanx08:04
davieyt08:04
jimFLMy CD is much faster than my net connection, so apt-get (from a server somewhere) is going to take forever (>400MB). I wanted to use the CD as the repository to do the install, but want it to all be copasetic(?) with the existing distro.  This is just over the edge of my knowledge/understanding as a linux newbie.08:04
dragonfyre13Arafangion: yeah, but if they have it, it's better than nothing. debs are pretty simple, whereas dpkg-scanpackages is more difficult.08:04
FlanneljimFL: grab the alternate ISO and you can use that as a repository08:05
Gabby_Hayesdaviey  .. similar thing here:  am installing ubuntu onto two systems:  intel i810 800MHz  &  AMD64 3800 x2  (am geting my exercise tonight)08:05
bug_daviey: you'll need to remove x-window-system and xorg-core or xorg-common and some other stuff... packages.ubuntu.com may have a list of everything x-related08:05
Arafangionxserver-xorg might just be enough.08:05
Flanneldaviey: if you remove some low level x thing, most other stuff probably depends on it ;)08:05
davieyGabby_Hayes: bet you were cleaver enough to have them in the same room eh?  I gotta run upstairs and down08:05
sethkjimFL, you'll be getting moderately old stuff.  You will end up upgrading a fair fraction of it over the 'net anyway08:06
ArrenLexjimFL: man apt-cdrom08:06
sethkjimFL, not sure if you'll save very much.08:06
dragonfyre13daviey: yes, but you can replace the kernel. 686 works fine, you just don't get the same boost.08:06
jimFLOK - I will have to defer the install until I get to a higher BW. connection to grab the alternate.  Dang! I should have d/l'd them all.08:06
Arafangiondragonfyre13: For desktops, I'm torn between Debian and Ubuntu, actually - Debian can have rather nice DVD's.08:06
dragonfyre13jimFL: apt-cdrom. there's an ubuntu site for it too.08:06
jimFLI don't quite get the kernel issue.08:06
FlanneljimFL: you'll have to download the alternate ISO (if you don't already have it)  700mb.  It can install a GUI-less server version as well.08:06
Gabby_Hayesyes,  daviey  .. I'm not that athletic at my age.08:06
sethkjimFL, what kernel issue?08:07
Arafangiondragonfyre13: And since debian is slow to change, those can stay reaosnably up-to-date for quite a while. :)08:07
dragonfyre13Arafangion: I go with gentoo and Ubuntu. Gentoo servers, and my geeky desktop, and Ubuntu for my wife, kids, and "easy" computers.08:07
se7enworthits a NTFS partition08:07
ArrenLexse7enworth: read only, or do you need to write?08:07
Arafangiondragonfyre13: My server is OBSD :)08:07
SeraVitaehow can i tell in ubuntu what motherboard i have?08:07
se7enworthboth08:07
ArrenLex!fuse08:07
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse08:07
Arafangiondragonfyre13: But I generally prefer Debian.08:07
se7enworththx08:08
ArrenLexDebian is life.08:08
Arafangiondragonfyre13: it's quite easy - though Ubuntu wins on hardware, and it _is_ just a little more polished.08:08
jimFLdragonfyre13: apt-cdrom is the ticket, I think.  Thanks mucho.08:08
dragonfyre13Arafangion: I have a FreeBSD server, but I rarely use it. Just not fast enough.08:08
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MilkteaOkay08:08
FlanneljimFL: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/  there's a kernel differnces section08:08
davieyse7enworth, if the data is importiant and not backed up i would not use write access as you could loose everything (rare)08:08
dragonfyre13jimFL: wait. Look at this.08:08
MilkteaI used PartitionMagic08:08
Milkteaand I got this error08:08
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Milktea#1529 Information mismatch in directory entry08:08
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rowanjlIf I'm going to upgrade my kernel and I'm using a Athlon 64, what should I choose?08:08
davieyHas anybody tried making a ubuntu thin client?08:08
dragonfyre13ubotu: apt-cdrom08:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apt-cdrom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:08
dragonfyre13ubotu: apt08:09
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)08:09
sethkMilktea, you are SOL.  hope you backed up08:09
Flannelrowanjl: are you using a 64bit install? or a 32bit one?08:09
MilkteaSOL?08:09
rowanjlFlannel: sorry, 32bit08:09
AlienXMilktea, feces out of luck :)08:09
sethkMilktea, s*** out of luck08:09
Milkteaoh08:09
Milkteahmm08:09
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Milkteai might as well08:09
sethkMilktea, try fsck (assuming it's a linux partition)08:09
Flannelrowanjl: k7, I believe.  k8 if it's available, but I don't believe it is.  (your proc is k8, but I don't know if thats only for it running in 64bit mode)08:09
Milkteano08:10
Milkteaim trying to resize08:10
MilkteaNTFS08:10
Jerubdoes the ubuntu installer have the ability to resize HFS+ partitions?08:10
rowanjlMilktea: thanks :)08:10
ArafangionJerub: Running a mac?08:10
Milktea?08:10
sethkMilktea, then try window's ntfs recovery tool08:10
ArrenLexrowanji: you can run a 64-bit kernel and use a 32-bit distro. You'll be fine.08:10
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Milkteasethk where is that found08:10
sidny4how do you disable quotas on the home folder?08:10
Jesse1984a question, when i goto install ubuntu via the alternate cd, i get this error.. "buffer i/o error on device hdd, logical block x" (where x can be one of heaps of numbers that come up with that same error one after another) it seems like it will never stop08:10
Gabby_HayesMilktea   .. do you have another computer where you could use that HD as a second HD?   (and use gpart to retrieve your lost partitions, if you are lucky)08:10
ArrenLexsethk: Windows' *08:10
FlannelArrenLex: is k8 in the i386 repositories though?08:10
Milkteano08:10
ArafangionJerub: Whatever you do, please back it up, I've heard rumours that linux's mac filesystem support is very unreliable.08:10
MilkteaI don't have lost partitions08:10
Milkteao.008:10
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FlannelJesse1984: reburn the CD, at 4x08:11
sethkMilktea, I'm not sure, I don't use it much, but it's there.08:11
dragonfyre13jimFL: http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/08/get-ubuntu-repositories-on-dvd.html08:11
ArafangionJerub: You have a corrupt CD.08:11
Milkteawait08:11
Arafangiondragonfyre13: Thanks.08:11
MilkteaI'm running08:11
JerubArafangion: no I don't!08:11
Jerub:)08:11
MilkteaWindows XP08:11
sidny4Flannel, I don't believe k8 is in the i386, k7 is for sure though08:11
Milkteaoff of the partition I'm trying to resize08:11
JerubArafangion: yeah, I'm doing the backups now :)08:11
Milkteaat the moment08:11
Milkteawith no problems08:11
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Milkteao.008:11
ArafangionJerub: Disregard me then :)08:11
Gabby_HayesArrenLex  .. I installed off of a DVD  6.06 ... and used the defaults, for now.  (AMD64 x2 )08:11
dragonfyre13Arafangion: for what?08:11
ArrenLexFlannel: It seems not. It was in the debian 386 repos, though.08:11
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Arafangiondragonfyre13: Ubuntu repos on DVD.08:12
dragonfyre13Arafangion: np.08:12
Za1Hi, can someone pls give me some suggestions - I have currently running Ubuntu (hoary) and I would like to upgrade to latest (drapper) which I have a CD.  Is there anyway I can only do upgrade without lossing my existing data?08:12
FlannelZa1: yes, but you have to upgrade through breezy first.08:12
sethkZa1, yes, but ordinarily that's done from the 'net, rather than from the cd08:12
ArrenLexAz1: why don't you just apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade?08:12
sidny4anybody know how to remove quotas on the home folder?08:13
FlannelZa1: and, if you're doing it via the CDs, grab the alternate dapper one, not the desktop.08:13
MilkteaGuys08:13
Milkteafor the error #1529 Information mismatch in directory entry08:13
sethkZa1, back up first08:13
MilkteaI'm trying to resize08:13
se7enworthfuse_mount failed08:13
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Milkteathe parition08:13
Milkteapartition*08:13
dragonfyre13Zal: yep. Upgrade in order. Go through the tutorials on the main ubuntu site for each upgrade.08:13
MilkteaI'm running off of currently08:13
Za1okay - the problem is i only have 64k.  That mean I need to order breezy CD and upgrade first?08:13
ArrenLex!enter > Milktea08:13
Gabby_HayesMilktea  ..  do you have a live CD?08:13
sethkMilktea, question was already answered08:13
MilkteaYes, I do08:13
andrew__1Hey pals, I just rebooted my server and now mysql has the error "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111)" I'm using Ubuntu 6.06 and mysql-4.108:13
MilkteaSorry08:14
dragonfyre13Zal: it might be more difficult, because from hoary to breezy, the upgrade process was still experemental.08:14
se7enworthok ... say i just wanna read from the partition. what would I do then.?08:14
Flanneldragonfyre13: no it wasn't.08:14
sidny4anybody know how to remove quotas on the home folder?08:14
davieyAm i right in saying that XDMCP login will connect to a remote 'X' - allow me a full working machine and run processes on the 'server' machine.  Ie have a powerfull backend and login from an old pc, for a new pc feel?08:14
Za1hmm- sounds like i better backup and nuke my machine and install the latest will be the best solutions.  thanks guys for your wonderful feeback.  you bunch are always a helpful.08:14
FlannelZa1: right, except you won't be able to order a breezy CD, I don't think.  And you won't be able to order a Dapper Alternate CD.  Unless you're ordering them somewhere besides shipit08:15
Gabby_HayesZa1  .. for that little amount of ram,  use more than one swap, and if you have two HDs, put a swap on each HD.  easier on your OS with two swaps and little ram.08:15
bug_i'd say to backup /etc and /home .. and then just do a clean install or (messily) overinstall08:15
dragonfyre13Flannel: it was horribly unpolished, and crashed more than half of the computers I tried it on. If it wasn't officially, then it was in practice.08:15
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FlannelZa1: right.  That's probably by far the easiest.  Just backup /home and stuff, like bug_ said08:15
ArrenLexse7enworth: to read only, add this line to your /etc/fstab:08:15
ArrenLex/dev/<partition>       <mountpoint>          ntfs    ro,users,umask=000           0       008:15
se7enworthok ... say i just wanna read from the partition. what would I do then.?08:15
Flanneldragonfyre13: dist-upgrade was official, and you just seem to have had bad luck ;)08:15
se7enworththx08:15
sidny4anybody know how to remove quotas on the home folder?08:15
dragonfyre13Flannel: oh, and they instituted the new procedure to "fix issues with the previous methods" according to them.08:15
Flanneldaviey: correct08:15
dragonfyre13Flannel: yes, official. I meant experemental.08:16
davieyse7evworth:  ie:   /dev/hda1    /media/windows ntfs  nls=utf8,umask=0222 0    008:16
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dragonfyre13Flannel: This was also a major issue on the boards. And I know I have bad luck. ;)08:16
Flanneldragonfyre13: most of the problems stemmed from people uninstalling meta packages and not reinstalling them.  It was NOT experimental.  We can continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic if you'd like, this is not the place.08:16
sethkdragonfyre13, is it experimentally official, or officially experimental?08:16
captinehi all.  when booting ubuntu, i get an error.  "file system check failed.  please repair manually.  give root password for maintanance".  when i give root password, it just takes me to console.  anyone able to help?08:17
davieyFlannel:  with X actually be running on the machine aswell or just X-Server?08:17
dragonfyre13sethk: it's neither any more.08:17
ArrenLexcaptine: from that console, enter "fsck".08:17
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sethkdragonfyre13, good thing, I was getting dizzy  :)08:17
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dragonfyre13sethk: I understood it to be experimental. I just know that there were lots of issues, and I had more than a few myself.08:17
Flanneldaviey: X needs to be, but that's it.  You login with your Xserver to the XClient at your home machine thing.08:17
dragonfyre13sethk: :)08:17
sethkcaptine, that's what it is supposed to do, take you to the console so you can repair08:17
davieyFlannel, thanx a bundle08:18
rowanjl800 uses is too many for ONE IRC channel...08:18
mikeh_sethk: i tried the going to terminal thing, and the computer does not slow down in terminal08:18
sethkcaptine, if it is the root file system, you wil lneed to boot the live cd to repair it08:18
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ArrenLexrowanji: only about 20 are talking,08:18
ArrenLex.08:18
phonicsrowanjl,  we're all idling08:18
dragonfyre13Flannel: that could very well be. I don't know all the specifics, but I know that everything is fixed now. I just hope the upgrade with dapper to edgy goes well.08:18
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sethkmikeh_, good.  see if there is anything interesting in thel ogs.08:18
SeraVitaecould someone give me a hand installing some XML java parser? i tried to install piccolo but it's like, not working.08:18
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ArrenLexsethk: why would you need the livecd to repair the root filesystem?08:18
rowanjlArrenLex, phonics, I know, but with 20 people talking its very hard to follow a conversation08:19
sidny4anybody know how to remove quotas on the home folder?08:19
mikeh_sethk: what logs08:19
andrew__1Hey pals, I just rebooted my server and now mysql has the error "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111)" I'm using Ubuntu 6.06 and mysql-4.108:19
sethkArrenLex, because you can't repair a file system while it is mounted08:19
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phonicsandrew__1, that sounds rough08:20
Flannelsidny4: quota is probably the command used to implement them, check it's documentation, I've never used it.08:20
ArrenLexsethk: that admin console doesn't mount the filesystem AFAIK; that's why your /etc/fstab says "defaults,errors=remount-ro" for the options on the root fs. So you can repair it.08:20
sethkmikeh_, /var/log/Xorg.0.log, /var/log/messages.   do    ls -ltr /var/log    and check logs which haave changed most recently08:20
captineArrenLex: done that.  now it says reiser_open : the superblock cnnot be found on /dev/hdc.  says something about the partition table might be recked and to use option --rebuild-sb.  should i type fsck --rebuild-sb?08:20
sidny4ok08:20
sethkArrenLex, it's mounted read only, but it is still mounted08:20
Robin1931hey ppl i need some help...i installed firefox ages ago using the binary and now i can't get rid of it to install the latest version via synaptic...how do i remove firefox?08:20
captineArrenLex: and will i lose data?08:20
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andrew__1phonics: yes, it's really bugging me08:20
ArrenLexcaptine: if it warns you that your filesystem is mounted, do not run it. If it does not warn you, you are safe.08:20
sethkRobin1931, rm08:20
jimFLthx dragonfyre13 & others.  Gotta' go offline now.  You've given me MUCH more than I ever would have found  on my own.  Much appreciated. Later...08:20
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ArrenLexcaptine: everything SHOULD be fine.08:21
Mrhow come everytime i try to run a shell script nothing happens08:21
ArrenLexMr: does the file have exec permissions?08:21
Robin1931sethk: rm firefox?08:21
Mruhhh i dont know what that is how do i give it them08:21
printkMr: what kind of shell script?  it is executable right?08:21
ArrenLexMr: run it as "sh <file>" or else "sudo chmod +x <file>" and then you can simply "./<file>"08:21
MrYeah08:21
wrabbit^Mr, if you want to create an exe, just sudo chmod +x .........08:21
phonicsandrew__1, you try : http://www.tech-recipes.com/mysql_tips762.html08:22
wrabbit^err yeah, what ArrenLex said08:22
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printkno need to "sudo chmod +x" unless it's owned by root08:22
printkjust chmod +x :)08:22
davieyIf i want to migrate from one machine to another can i just move my  /home/($USER) directory?08:22
FlannelRobin1931: no, you'll have to delete all of the files associated with it.08:22
Mrslow down i just installed ubuntu today08:22
MrIm a complete noob lol08:22
Mrhow do i run it08:23
ArrenLexsethk: the reason you can't fsck a mounted filesystem is because the inodes are in use and the counts are wrong and all these things, and it closes files which can't be closed because they are open and corrupts everything. If you mount a filesystem readonly, it's still in virgin state. You can't fix a filesystem if you can't read it; the livecd mounts it readonly anyway.08:23
Flanneldaviey: that's the idea.  there can always be some problems, but  in a nutshell, yes.08:23
Mr double clicked on ot08:23
Mrit*08:23
printkdaviey: yup you can.08:23
phonicsthis channel is a bumbleclot clusterfuck - quoth McDonalds "I'm Lovin it!"08:23
davieySo my .evolution and other such should move with it?08:23
Robin1931Flannel: where can i find the install files?08:23
andrew__1phonics: I'll have a look, it looks reasona;ble thanks08:23
ArrenLexMr: run chmod +x <file> and then you can doubleclick on it to run it.08:23
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wrabbit^Mr: Hang on.  :) What're you trying to run?08:23
Mrit says Do you want to run "Installation or display its contents08:23
Mrlampp08:24
phonicsandrew__1, all i did was google for the error and pass you the first hit.08:24
mikeh_sethk: what would be the evms-engine.X.log08:24
andrew__1hmm yeah I didnt find that page08:24
andrew__1not sure if it will work, Ive tried many things08:24
Mrim trying to install lampp08:24
phonicsany lurkers know if this is the correct channel to go into a tirade about GDM, gnome-session, and gnome-panel?08:24
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ArrenLexphonics: do you need help with those things?08:25
Flannelphonics: #ubuntu-offtopic would be a better place08:25
harrismwhen I try to run mupen64 (n64 emu) I get this error-> error while loading shared libraries libsdl-1.2.so.0    I program in SDL all the time, why does it not load the shared library? I have libsdl 1.2 and some addons like gfx, net, image, ttf and so on08:25
printkphonics must be jamacian08:25
phonicsArrenLex, i'm frustrated by them, whether or not help is available is the question itself08:25
MrSo how do i run a shell script now? because when i click run it doesnt work08:25
Mrnothing happens08:25
lsoiisdragonfyre13: it WORKS!  webcam08:25
lsoiisthanks08:25
phonicsprintk, wow.... just,... wow08:26
harrismI have dev packages, but if I can run sdl games I make why can't I run this? :/08:26
dragonfyre13lsoiis: no problem. Have fun. But not too much. ;)08:26
holycowphonics, no that would be #gnome or irc.gnome.org08:26
holycowhowever08:26
holycowcan you give us a gist?08:26
phonicsArrenLex, Flannel, just curious if there's a way to deal with gnome-panel bugging out when you use GDM08:26
sethkphonics, run KDE   :)08:27
ArrenLexharrism: that file is in the package libsdl1.2debian-all.08:27
phonicsbasically, gnome-panel has started crashing a lot. However, GDM seems to be catching the 3-key-salute, and all my gnome processes are still alive08:27
ArrenLexKDE is life.08:27
dragonfyre13sethk: DEATH TO KDE!08:27
ghostshadow189hi all , i've just install icewm , but when i click to start menu i've to click again to open other menus , now i want to open submenu when my mouse foucus them08:27
sethkdragonfyre13, I like it, actually, but I wasn't seriously suggesting it.  :)08:27
holycowphonics, i have many gnome machines, none of them have done that08:27
holycowphonics, i'm betting you hosed your install08:27
phonicsArrenLex, if only i hadn't just ended a relationship with Debian sid and KDE, I might agree.08:27
harrismI have that one installed :/ would it matter if I am running amd 64 bit?08:27
ghostshadow189and how can i make icewm's font  bigger ?08:27
holycoweither that or your running edgy and did something dumb08:27
dragonfyre13sethk: It's OK, just sparks a lot of debate when I put it down. ^_^08:27
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Mrholycow08:27
phonicsholycow, no and no08:28
holycowlet me guess you tried compiling your own gnome and installing it right?08:28
sethkdragonfyre13, slow night.  :)08:28
Flannelghostshadow189: #icewm is the best place to ask08:28
MrI want to run a shell script and nothings happening whats wrong?08:28
ghostshadow189oh i didn't know that room :D08:28
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dragonfyre13sethk: not really. I just get on here for fun anyway, and it I help newbies in the process, then great. ^_^08:28
ArrenLexharrism: is there a 64-bit mupen?08:28
reverieMorning guys08:28
zachhalewhich debootstrap do i want to use for manually installing ubuntu08:28
sethkharrism, if you have the library, then you have to adjust the library path so the program can find it.08:28
ArrenLexMr: run it from the terminal. It may not be graphical.08:28
dragonfyre13reverie: evening reverie.08:28
kmitch87Mr: did you make the script executable08:29
Flannel!tell zachhale about install08:29
DaveyJmy sound vanished :( is there a way to reload the sound driver or module?08:29
ArrenLexsethk: the library is part of a debian package. It's set up properly.08:29
Mrno08:29
Mrhow do i do that08:29
reverieI know it's not very polite to just come here and ask questions..08:29
reveriebut I have a really, really strange problem with Dapper08:29
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phonicsholycow, i may have done something dumb, but precisely which action is quesitonable. I have not been trying to install my own gnome tho08:29
ArrenLexreverie: that's what we're here for! :D08:29
cntbDaveyJ: dont know try restart08:29
dragonfyre13reverie: Sitting at the ready!08:29
zachhaleFlannel: that doesnt help me08:29
holycowphonics, allright i'll buy that for now although i'm giving you the evil eye08:29
holycow:)08:30
sethkArrenLex, the only way to get that error is if the library is not in the library path (or it isn't there in the first place, or it is damaged)08:30
zachhalei'm already following the guide, but i'm not sure which debootstrap to use08:30
reveriedragonfyre13, at the ready? lol08:30
dragonfyre13cntb: restarts are for hardware installations.. ^_^08:30
holycowphonics, have you dist upgraded lately? what are  you running, dapper or edgy?08:30
Mrhow do i make a shell script a exe08:30
cntbmeaning in the past did nothing and it came back as for the exact reason dont know08:30
Flannelzachhale: you sure?  there's a deb... ah.  well, you could check the version in ubuntu, (packages.ubuntu.com)08:30
cntbhope it helps08:30
harrismdon't see a 64 bit version, how can I go about adjusting the library path? I wonder if this is related.. when I migraged to my new machine I tried running a game I wrote in sdl but I had to compile it again first.. hm08:30
zachhaleFlannel: there are udeb's and non-udebs08:30
printkMr: still haven't ran the script?  Open a terminal.  Go to the script.  type "sudo chmod +x <script_file>" thne type "./<scriptfile"08:30
kmitch87Mr: chmod +x08:30
ArrenLexsethk: He's running an AMD64 system. If he has the wrong arch library, he'll get the same message.08:30
dragonfyre13reverie: sitting ready to answer your questions, so long as I know the answer, and feel like typing some more. ^_^08:30
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reverieDapper installs on my box, but it hangs (will get you the kernel error now) and sometimes after allt his my pc won't post when i reboot it08:31
phonicsholycow, dapper - i'm done with experimental things! I'll admit I *have* been trying to switch from "ati" to "fglrx" lately, but it complains that i'm not running xorg 6.8 even tho it's suppose dot be for 7.0...08:31
ArrenLexharrism: so you're trying to run a 32-bit mupen on a 64-bit ubuntu?08:31
reverie"Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address "08:31
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sethkArrenLex, true08:31
holycowphonics, if its dapper do a dist-upgrade and see if anything is upgraded08:31
dragonfyre13harrism: that's just wrong.08:31
Gabby_HayesArrenLex  .. I just installed the defaults off of a dapper DVD  onto an AMD64 ... but haven't tried to do any 64-bit stuff, yet08:31
ACUguys, do you know how to use wget to get along with web the .rm realmedia webstream ?08:32
holycowphonics, are all your repos official or do you have custom stuff in there?08:32
sethkArrenLex, I think he's knowlegable enough to have avoided that pitfall08:32
ArrenLexGabby: what? o_o08:32
phonicsholycow, i've dist-upgraded recently, I have universe and multiverse but that's it08:32
dragonfyre13ACU nope. Get streamripper.08:32
holycowACU, just so that you know a .rm file is just a tiny pointer file that tells the player where the stream is08:32
reverieafter this i have to re-seat my grfaphics card to get it to boot08:32
holycowyou won't be able to grab a stream with wget08:32
harrismbut it seems related to my other problem.. I had to recompile my raycaster to launch it. Does anyone kmnow of an N64 alternate?08:32
reveriethere's no hardware issue i can see, as winxp runs just fine08:32
holycowyou need an app that can suck in a rm stream and spit out a static file08:32
ArrenLexsethk: I quote: "harrism: don't see a 64 bit version," That means that something, somewhere, is 32-bit.08:32
mikeh_sethk: i am going to try the -386 kernel to see if it still does it08:32
Robin1931can anyone tell me how i uninstall a program which i installed with the binary? please pm me...thanks08:32
sethkreverie, that's a hardware issue.08:33
sethkmikeh_, good idea08:33
holycowphonics, allright.  now what does gdm do? what error message does it give you?08:33
printkRobin1931: sudo apt-get remove <package>08:33
dragonfyre13reverie: looking.08:33
reveriesethk, it onlydoes this when i try install linux08:33
czer323!bugreport08:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bugreport - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:33
zachhaleanyone know which debootstrap to use, debootstrap or debootstrap-udeb08:33
reverieeven if i'm not in X, and I stop the X session completely it still hangs randomly08:33
reverieKnoppix runs just great08:33
dragonfyre13this is during post, during use, what?08:34
dragonfyre13reverie: this is during post, during use, what?08:34
sethkArrenLex, actually I think he's running something that was linked against a different arch, or a different path.  remember that the library path can be compiled into the running binary08:34
reveriethe kernel error is during use08:34
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raiXerwhat is with this error? Error activating XKB configuration.08:34
reverieafter i get this kernel issue\, sometimes, my box will not post when i reboot08:34
phonicsholycow, it's not that GDM gives me an error, it's that if I do ctrl-alt-backspace i go to the GDM login and my gnome apps stay alive08:34
reveriemy hardware is fine08:34
reveriethis only seems to happen with dapper08:34
sethkArrenLex, but you are probably correct, rereading what he said.08:34
phonicsholycow, this makes logging in again problematic :)08:34
dragonfyre13reverie: use synaptic and reinstall the kernel. That worked for me way back when.08:34
reveriei've tried 64bit (its a 64bit cpu)08:34
holycowphonics, *umm*08:34
ArrenLexsethk: exactly, I think he's running a 32-bit mupen on a 64-bit system, which means his 32-bit mupen is looking for a 32-bit libsdl and finding a 64-bit it can't handle, causing that error.08:34
se7enworthhi. I put that line into fstab and did a reboot but still nothing mounted in /media08:35
holycowno your gnome apps don't stay alive08:35
se7enworthother than cd roms of course08:35
holycowinfat08:35
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reveriedragonfyre13, I can barely get into the box let alone get into aptitute08:35
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holycowinfact you that is exactly what is supposed to happen, restart x and bring you back to the login screen08:35
phonicsholycow, huh?08:35
SeraVitaehow can i determine where $JAVA_HOME is?08:35
sethkphonics, I'm not quite sure what you mean by gnome apps staying alive.  going to the gdm login when you press control-alt-backspace is exactly what is supposed to happen.08:35
Robin1931printK: that didn't work, i didn't install it using any package manager08:35
reverieare there known issues with nforce cfhipsets?08:35
holycowphonics, its impossible for gnome apps to stay alive, it doesn't happen08:35
dragonfyre13ArrenLex: sethk: wait, he's emulating a 32 bit system, to emulate a 64 bit system, all on a 64 bit system to begin with? That's just wrong.08:35
phonicsholycow, sethk, correct, but they are still alive in the old session08:35
reverieits an nfroce 3 250 chipset08:35
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printkRobin1931: oh well then you gotta remove it yourself08:35
sethkdragonfyre13, yes,08:36
Nothing_AboutHey08:36
dragonfyre13reverie: try an earlier kernel. Is it a fresh install?08:36
holycowphonics, not possible, the session is destroyed upon key command08:36
Nothing_Aboutcan anyone help me out with a problem08:36
phonicsholycow, tell that to my "ps x"08:36
reveriegpu is a geforce 6800gt08:36
Robin1931printk: how do u do that exactly?08:36
reveriedragonfyre13, fresh install08:36
Nothing_AboutOK im trying to install ubuntu08:36
phonicsholycow, that's what I thought too!08:36
printkRobin1931: *shrugs* whereever you intalled it to, i guess rm it? :)08:36
reveriedragonfyre13, like, the install process hangs just after choosing language08:36
Nothing_Abouton my lame laptop08:36
ArrenLexdragonfyre: I couldn't call a Nintendo64 a "64-bit system" without laughing. Could you? =P08:36
Nothing_About700mhz and 128 mb ram08:36
holycowso what happens when you try to log in?08:36
dragonfyre13reverie: ah.08:36
reveriei had to use the DVD version of dapper to do a text only install08:36
se7enworthanybody got any other suggestions about mounting hda1 pls?08:36
Nothing_Aboutproblem is08:36
se7enworthntfs volume?08:36
ArrenLex!enter08:37
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.08:37
Nothing_Abouti didnt know it goes into live cd mode08:37
phonicsholycow, panel fails to start, settings act weird, none of the panel applets work...08:37
sethkreverie, try getting into the box in text mode, and doing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:37
dragonfyre13reverie: ah. You've tried doing the integrity check, and burning a new disk and stuff right?08:37
Robin1931printk: i searched my drive for 'firefox' and deleted the dir it found but firefox will still run08:37
dragonfyre13reverie: cause you're looking at a kernel error.08:37
FlannelNothing_About: you want the alternate ISO, not the desktop08:37
Gabby_HayesNothing_About  .. do you see an "install" icon on the desktop?08:37
captineArrenLex: sorry to bug, but reiserfsck --rebuild-sb is asking me questions and i don't know answers i.e. enter block size??? do i just use defaults?08:37
dfgasdo voodoo cards works in linux? (still)08:37
Nothing_Aboutyeh08:37
Nothing_Aboutproblem is08:37
reveriedragonfyre13, yep, i had origional cds from shippiit08:37
dragonfyre13dfgas: yes.08:37
holycowphonics, my guesstimate is that you borked something and don't realize it ... at this point i personally would decide to reinstall and get the system back to a nice even playing ground.08:37
phonicsholycow, right now i'm using console login so the 3-key-salute can mean something again :)08:37
Nothing_Aboutit is still loading08:37
reveriethis happens on the 32bit and 64bit versions of Ubuntu and Kubuntu08:37
Nothing_Aboutand it has cut out my monitor08:38
holycowtracking something like that down would take more work than its worth imho08:38
ArrenLexcaptine: I don't know anything about reiserfs. I don't want to say anything for fear of steering you wrong. Sorry. = /08:38
Nothing_Aboutand now i have no signal08:38
phonicsholycow, i've only had it installed for like 3 weeks08:38
dragonfyre13reverie: ok, and you tried the media check function on the CD?08:38
sethkcaptine, reiserfs is unstable when used as a root file system.08:38
FlannelNothing_About: You want the alternate CD, its a  nice textmode installer, etc08:38
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reveriedragonfyre13, yep08:38
ChocoCidi actually have ctrlaltdel in metacity set to bring up gnome-system-manager08:38
captineArrenLex: cool.  shot :)08:38
printkRobin1931: i suggest getting support through firefox themselves.  But if you say firefox is stilling running it's in your $PATH.  SO I'd check /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin to start with08:38
sethkcaptine, best to not use it that way (or not use it at all)08:38
MrUmmm08:38
dfgasdragonfyre13, cool, its going in my newer server i am getting08:38
holycowphonics, yeah well, you can have it installed for 3 minutes and still do something to bork it, just a suggestion anyway08:38
dragonfyre13reverie: I got a bad burn once, from shipit, so...08:38
Nothing_Aboutyeh problem i dont know what to do08:38
captineAnyone able to help with Reiserfsck???08:38
MrI still been trying to run it08:38
dragonfyre13dfgas: sounds good!08:38
Nothing_Aboutsince its still loading the live cd08:38
phonicsholycow, i totally agree with the too much effort analysis :)08:38
Mrtype "sudo chmod +x <script_file>" thne type "./<scriptfile"08:38
Nothing_Aboutand my monitor has no signal08:38
Nothing_Aboutshould i leave it08:38
Mrfor script file i put file.ss08:38
Mr?08:38
ArrenLexRobin: what problem are you having with firefox?08:38
Nothing_Aboutand maybe it will start working08:38
Robin1931printk: i'll have a look in those dirs, tnank you08:38
dragonfyre13reverie: are you doing anything screwy, hardware wise?08:39
printkMr: whatever the name of the script is08:39
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Nothing_Aboutor do something else08:39
FlannelNothing_About: just power down, not going to break anyting ;)08:39
se7enworththx you guys are a great help08:39
kmitch87Nothing_About: only thing to do is to turn it off08:39
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captinesethk: problem is, my machine was running slackware.  the drive that is in reiser format is my home drive, with all doc's etc08:39
DyegovI need someone to help me with my resolution, it's only 640x480 :(08:39
Nothing_Aboutok08:39
phonicsholycow, but part of the reason I even use linux is to track down problems like this and make sure nobody else gets rammed by them08:39
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reveriedragonfyre13, yeah, ive tired 4 cds here, and the same cds have installed fine on other machines08:39
Gabby_HayesNothing_About  .. reboot, and choose a text install08:39
Nothing_Aboutis there a way i can install the linux without going to live cd08:39
Flannel!tell Dyegov about fixres08:39
Nothing_Abouttext install08:39
holycowphonics, ditto, i love being able to solve problems08:39
FlannelNothing_About: alternate ISO08:39
sethkcaptine, at this point, you have to recover it, granted.  afterwards, it would be a good idea to ditch it.08:39
dragonfyre13reverie: hmmmmm.08:39
sethkcaptine, you have to say yes to all the questions, normally.08:39
phonicsholycow, so how do these friggin processes stay alive??? :(08:39
sethkcaptine, if you want to ask about a specific prompt, go ahead.08:39
captinesethk: what about the block size thing?08:40
holycowphonics, ironically, because everything is free reinstalling just is easier on linux than on certain other platforms08:40
Nothing_Aboutok well is there any commands i must type while in text install08:40
Nothing_Aboutto start things up08:40
phonicsholycow, so true08:40
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Nothing_Aboutbecause im very new to the linux world08:40
sethkcaptine, sorry, I didn't see it, can you write it again?08:40
Nothing_Aboutand not sure on how to install linux08:40
FlannelNothing_About: you'll have to hit enter at the beginning, because there are different install types08:40
dragonfyre13reverie: OK, well as far as hardware, the only thing that the CD is touching should be the CD, RAM, and the display. No hard drive, or anything else.08:40
Nothing_Aboutok08:40
holycowphonics, well i don't thinkt hey stay alive i think they get restarted in the background along with gdm and x08:40
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Gabby_HayesNothing_About  ... the CD will have choices08:40
LilandraHi all08:40
sethkNothing_About, when you choose the text mode install, it will prompt you08:40
Nothing_Aboutyes ive seen08:40
BluR!info python-apt08:40
dragonfyre13reverie: do a ram check, though you've probably already done one, and let it run a few times through.08:40
reveriedragonfyre13, yeah08:40
ubotupython-apt: Python interface to libapt-pkg. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.16.2ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 116 kB08:40
holycowphonics,  but i've not really hacked around that kinda thing a lot so hard to tell.  gnome devs might be able to give more detailed info08:41
Robin1931printk: there was a firefox file in /usr/bin/ :)08:41
Nothing_Aboutok so turn off my laptop08:41
Nothing_Aboutand start install again08:41
Tru7hWhat are the advantages of booting up in safe graphics mode?08:41
captinesethk: it is asking me what block size  to use (after i typed reiserfsck --rebuild-sb).  It has [4096]  as a recommendation08:41
FlannelNothing_About: it walks you through it pretty well.  And, worst case is you did something wrong, and you can fix it, or install again ;)  Most people reinstall after a month once theyve figured stuff out, to undo all the mistakes ;)08:41
reveriedragonfyre13, ran memtest86 , all fine for about 10 passes08:41
holycowphonics, just because you see them doesn't meen they haven't restarted08:41
dragonfyre13reverie: hmmmmmm.08:41
reveriedragonfyre13, also this ONLY ever happens with Dapper08:41
Robin1931firefox seems to be gone, thank you :D08:41
FlannelTru7h: none of your gnome startup stuff is run, if you have a bad script or whatnot08:41
printkRobin1931: np08:41
sethkphonics, specifically, which processes stay alive?08:41
TWiSTEDSOhi all , i want to run higher resolution than 1024 , how do i add more modes ?08:41
Nothing_Aboutok08:41
Mrits not working08:41
Nothing_Aboutso when i have the menu pop up08:41
Nothing_Aboutbefore install08:41
LilandraIs there a PPC linux/ubuntu specific channel?08:41
Nothing_Abouti press a key08:41
reveriedragonfyre13, so i'm guessing its the kernel release conflicts with some hardware, i even tried booting the cd without having my tv card, sndcard and nic installed08:41
Nothing_Aboutto stop count down08:41
printkMr: what's not working about it?  what kind of script is this?08:41
ArrenLexTWiSTEDSO: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and add more resolutions. Or else edit your /etc/x11/xorg.conf and add them manually.08:42
Nothing_Aboutthen i choose text install08:42
Gabby_HayesTru7h  ... you can get what packages or drivers you need installed, then go to a regular mode.08:42
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Nothing_Aboutand follow the prompts08:42
kmitch87TWiStEDSO: does your monitor support higher modes?08:42
sethkMr,  give us some context, look at the rate questions fly about here.08:42
FlannelNothing_About: no, no.  this is an entire other disk, Alternate ISO, you have the Desktop ISO08:42
phonicsholycow, sethk, all of them seem to - bonobo-activation, gnome-* etc08:42
printkMr: you might need to seek help from the authors of lampp... what is lampp... I don't think it's in ubuntu08:42
Nothing_Aboutok08:42
sethkphonics, that's not necessarily wrong08:42
Nothing_Aboutso i cant go into desktop iso and install in text mode08:42
phonicsholycow, sethk, I haven't been rigorous enough to track tho08:42
reveriedragonfyre13, it just behaves weirdly, i did get into X a few times after the installation went through eventually, i try run something simple like xterm or whatever, and it just dissapears08:42
dragonfyre13reverie: file a bug report is the only thing I can think of. It's not a hardware issue, it's a kernel issue. It's trying to write to a non-existant area. Does this only happen on the live CD, or with the text based installer?08:42
Lilandraanybody?08:42
FlannelNothing_About: correct.  the desktop ISO is a liveCd primarily08:42
sethkphonics, it's normal for the corba layer and other middleware to continue to run.08:42
FlannelLilandra: nope, this is it.08:42
Lilandraoh ok08:43
Nothing_Aboutok08:43
phonicssethk, what??? aren't the child procs?08:43
ArrenLexWow, lots of people are talking today. My head hurts from trying to keep up.08:43
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phonicssethk, s/the/they08:43
reveriedragonfyre13, the text based installer seems to install with no errors08:43
Lilandradoes anybody know about appletouch?08:43
kmitch87Nothing_About: at the boot prompt try safe mode08:43
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Nothing_Aboutbut if i download the alternate iso , will i have any problems with my monitor while install08:43
sethkphonics, not all, no.  what problem do you think these processes are causing?08:43
holycowphonics, actually no they aren't08:43
dragonfyre13reverie: It's a liveCD kernel issue.08:43
Nothing_Aboutwhat safe graphical mode08:43
ArrenLexLilandra: you can run it using the synaptics touchpad driver, but it will have only basic functionality.08:43
FlannelNothing_About: probably not, no.08:43
Mrsudo chmod <lampp> ./home/jones/desktop/lampp is what i put and it says no such file or dir08:43
reveriedragonfyre13, but the kernel dapper boots with after the installer isn't the livecd kernel surely?08:43
Nothing_Aboutok08:43
Lilandrahow about the dragging of the cursor? can i fix that?08:44
phonicsholycow, sethk you guys are rocking my world.08:44
Tru7hNothing_About: From what they've just told me, it's used for installing drivers and such while avoiding bad scripts.08:44
Nothing_Abouthow much Ram does this linux require08:44
FlannelMr: have you read the lamp howto page?08:44
printkMr: no no that's wrong08:44
FlannelNothing_About: you actually might want to consider xubuntu, instead of ubuntu08:44
phonicsholycow, sethk, the problem is that I never have a normal session again, i have to restart gdm08:44
ArrenLexLilandra: have you googled?08:44
Gabby_HayesNothing_About  .. ubuntu at it's first graphics screen will have about 4-5 menus choices ... pick safe mode,  or the text mode08:44
Lilandrayes but they're confusing08:44
Lilandrai mean i'm confused.08:44
dragonfyre13reverie: Sorry, I meant Default kernel issue. The kernel that the livecd boots with is the same one that it installs initially, but just recompiled for livecd use.08:44
kyjalol08:44
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Nothing_Aboutso whats the difference with xubuntu and ubuntu ?08:44
kyja!test again08:44
ubotuFailed again.08:44
Lilandraand i'm not too sure what i'm confused about.08:44
printkMr: don't actually use < > in the file name unless it's called <lamp> and no need to use ./ < notice the period.  The period is only if you're in the present working directory.  If you supply the full path /home/blah/blah then that's all you type to run it08:44
reveriedragonfyre13, ah ok08:45
ArrenLexLilandra: what are you confused by? If you give us a link to a tutorial, we might be able to explain it.08:45
ChocoCidxubuntu uses XCFE instead of GNOME08:45
Lilandrai will try again and come back with specific answers08:45
holycowphonics, the problem in tracking down the root of your issue is that you need to track back to a mysterious something that happened to your setup.08:45
Nothing_Aboutbrb08:45
FlannelNothing_About: xfce instead of gnome, it's more lightweight.  (the window manager, the main GUI thing)08:45
Nothing_Aboutneed to check on laptop08:45
DyegovI need to fix my resolution because it's 680x460 and what the bot told me didn't work :(08:45
ChocoCidbasically, the window manager isn't as large so it'll take less memory to run08:45
LilandraArrenLex: I will try again and see where I get stopped08:45
holycowi say stop worrying and reinstall.  if it happens again you will have a base experience to further track it down if it happens again08:45
reveriedragonfyre13, if its any help, the thing that made my box not post after it hung was when i tried booting with nolapic noapic08:45
ArrenLexDyegov: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:45
phonicsholycow, well, i haven't done too much outside of aptitude tho, so that shouldn't be *too* hard08:45
BluR!info ifrename08:45
ubotuifrename: Rename network interfaces based on various static criteria. In component universe, is optional. Version 27+28pre13-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 51 kB, installed size 176 kB08:45
TWiSTEDSOdo i need to restart xserver for adding new modes ?08:45
ArrenLexDyegov: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:45
BluR!info iproute08:46
ubotuiproute: Professional tools to control the networking in Linux kernels. In component main, is important. Version 20041019-4ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 949 kB, installed size 1512 kB08:46
kmitch87TWiSTEDSO: yes08:46
ArrenLexTWiSTEDSO: yes08:46
ArrenLexxD08:46
printkMr: if you type ./home/blah/blah that means whatever directory i'm in now, go to home/blah/blah from there..  so don't use the period.08:46
Mrit says go to linux shell and login as the system admin root where that at?08:46
andrew__1Hey pals, I just rebooted my server and now mysql has the error "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111)" I'm using Ubuntu 6.06 and mysql-4.108:46
dragonfyre13reverie: it's conflicting with your hardware in some way give the output of dmesg on the other linux distro on the machine with the bugreport, as well as what you just told me. Specifically how you got it to not post. They should be able to figure it out.08:46
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BluR!info bc08:46
ubotubc: The GNU bc arbitrary precision calculator language. In component main, is optional. Version 1.06-19ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 64 kB, installed size 188 kB08:46
printkMr: ok type "sudo /home/path/to/script" to run it, if it needs to be ran as root08:46
dragonfyre13reverie: as much as I hate it, I'm not familiar with the kernel code for ubuntu yet.08:46
holycowMr, there is no root in ubuntu first so thats one bit of the confusion08:46
phonicssethk, holycow should I take this to #gnome?08:46
holycowMr, second, it the terminal undr apps / accessoreis / terminal08:47
printkMr: I really suggest reading some beginner tutorials on common linux commands etc....08:47
phonicsholycow, sethk or is this an ubuntu issue?08:47
holycowMr, third instead of logging in as root just type sudo before every command,that will execute it as root08:47
reveriedragonfyre13, thanks though, i appreciate the effort ;)08:47
dragonfyre13reverie: you could install it, and then grab the kernel off on the other distro, then just do a replace.08:47
FlannelMr: Ubuntu has a nice howto on installing LAMP, and I'm sure there's one on Perl, that should do it for you, right?08:47
Flannel!tell Mr about lamp08:47
printkwell there is root in ubuntu, just no password set by default08:47
reverieif i could just get the box stable enough to upgrade the kerenel i think that would help08:47
holycowphonics, no i really think this is a phonics issue ... i don't really get why you want to spend time tracking down something you did :)08:47
dragonfyre13the kernel off the ubuntu repo that is.08:47
dragonfyre13reverie the kernel off the ubuntu repo that is.08:47
Nothing_Aboutok08:47
Nothing_Aboutim back08:47
reveriedragonfyre13, yeah that was the first thing i tried to apt-get :)08:48
Nothing_Aboutwell the laptop is still trying to run ubuntu08:48
Nothing_Aboutbut no luck08:48
holycowphonics, i mean that jokingly of course :)08:48
zachhaleanyone know a livecd with the 2.6.18 kernel that i can install the debootstrap from?08:48
ArrenLex!enter > Nothing_About08:48
Nothing_Aboutso i will download xubuntu08:48
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dragonfyre13reverie:  that would likely fix it. Just replace it manually.08:48
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Gabby_Hayesbeauty sleep time ... thanks for all the help .... take care ... have fun ...08:48
reveriewell lets hope she boots08:48
Nothing_Aboutenter what ?08:48
phonicsholycow, i'd normally agree! but i've sworn off trying to have a useful commputer that I hack to bits, so this install is pretty clean08:49
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ArrenLexNothing_About: the enter key. Stop using it like a comma.08:49
reveriebrb08:49
dragonfyre13reverie: if not, what are you out? It's not like you took a step back.... ^_^08:49
Nothing_Aboutok08:49
holycowphonics, i beg to differ considreing your issues08:49
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dragonfyre13reverie: ohhhhhh. I forgot, bad post.08:49
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ChocoCidNothing_About : do you already have normal ubuntu installed?08:49
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mikeh_how do i know if i am using both processors on my moboard08:49
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holycowphonics, your issues do not poitn to anything but you ... just going by my set of experiences :)  i believe you really think its clean but i'm betting you changed something somewhere without remembering :)08:50
Nothing_Aboutno im in the process of installing ubuntu08:50
holycowhehe08:50
ChocoCidah, ok08:50
ChocoCidyeah, it's definitely a good idea to get xubuntu if you have a low-power system08:50
ArrenLexmikeh: cat /proc/cpuinfo. If you see two entries, you're using two processors.08:50
ArrenLexmikeh: if you only see one, install an -smp kernel.08:50
Nothing_Aboutbut the live cd started insted of an option where i can choose to install ubuntu without going into live cd mode08:50
Mrwow08:50
ChocoCidthe live cd is supposed to start up08:50
dragonfyre13ChocoCid: xubuntu is nice. I'd recommend it even to someone who had a mid powered system.08:50
holycowphonics, as well setting up another 'clean' install and watching for this issue is actually a good way to trouble shoot it to be honest08:50
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ChocoCiddragonfyre13 : i tried it, didn't like xcfe - or kde08:51
MrSo what do you recomend i do now since it doesnt have root08:51
Tru7hIs it normal for Ubuntu to take about a half hour to boot up from a live CD on an old machine?08:51
holycowMr, *ummm* i told you08:51
holycowMr, there is NO NEED for root08:51
Tru7hHalf hour and counting, that is.08:51
ChocoCid!rootsudo > mr08:51
mikeh_AreenLex: can i use SMP on -386 kernel08:51
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holycowroot was not made accessible for a reason, to protect you from your self08:51
holycownoobs are notorious for hosing their systems08:51
dreamhow do i remove the blank screensaver on dapper?08:51
dragonfyre13ChocoCid: I don't personally like KDE, though some of the apps are great. I do like XFCE once it's modded though. Oh, and I have to have Thunar file manager. Can't deal with Rox.08:51
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ChocoCidNothing_About : if you already have the ubuntu live cd, you can install it and then install xubuntu-desktop afterwards08:52
holycowMr, like mikeh_ said, just type in sudo before each command that needs to be executed as root08:52
Nothing_Aboutthe thing is i dont know why but while it was loading the live cd , on my laptop my monitor just lost signal i didnt know what process was trying to run while kernal was loading08:52
dragonfyre13ChocoCid: oh, by the way, Gnome still blows both out of the water.08:52
ArrenLexmikeh: no; only -686 kernels are available with smp.08:52
holycowMr, as well, i already told you this, i don't like repeating my self08:52
MrOk08:52
ChocoCidGNOME is hotness :D08:52
Nothing_Aboutyeh but how do i install ubuntu without going into live cd08:52
dragonfyre13reverie: did it post?08:52
kmitch87dream: System ---> Preferences ----> Screensaver08:52
Mrwhats the extention for shell script08:52
Nothing_Aboutand ive tried the first option on the menu08:52
ChocoCiduh, you probably missed the screen with options08:52
dragonfyre13Mr: sh08:52
dreamthere is no screensaver in preferences08:52
Nothing_Aboutand thats just went onto live cd08:52
ChocoCidit's got like 30 seconds to make a choice between 5 options, if you do nothing then it'll go to the default08:52
printkMr: please try to pay attention, this channel is full of text.  If you're going to ask a question pay attention.  Many people told you many times to use sudo before the command08:52
holycowNothing_About, download the alternate cd and use the other installer08:52
kmitch87dream: yea, there should be08:53
holycowNothing_About, alternate cd has the old di installer, its fantastic, although ugly08:53
reveriedamn08:53
dreami dont see it in dapper08:53
reveriestill wont post08:53
holycowguaranteed to install on your machine provided it composed of supported hardware components08:53
dreamkmitch, are you on dapper?08:53
kmitch87dream: i'm on edgy08:53
Nothing_Aboutso i cant install ubuntu without going into live cd mode is that right ?08:53
Tru7hNothing_About: That's right.08:53
kmitch87dream:  I don't think it should have changed though...08:53
ArrenLexNothing_About: wrong. You just need to download a different CD.08:53
holycowMr, on linux things don't really need extensions08:53
dragonfyre13reverie: take everything but  the MOBO, RAM out, and try. And go over to #Hardware. they are kick butt over there.08:53
Tru7hNothing_About: Scratch that, I thought you said "can" not "can't".08:54
printkMr: the extension of the shell script depends on the shell it's using.  for example bourne or bash shell use .sh extension.08:54
Mrok08:54
dreamkmitch, there is no screensaver on dapper08:54
Tru7hNothing_About: You just need to use the alternate installer.08:54
reveriedragonfyre13, yeah i know :)08:54
dreamkmitch is there another way to remove the blank screensaver08:54
printkMr: and they don't always have extensions either... it's not necesary08:54
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holycowMr, on linux you ar basically making everything a command wher  thisprogram execsthisfile -withsomeparatemers08:54
reveriedragonfyre13, the beep i get indicates the vga card isn't plugged in08:54
reverieweird08:54
reverieubuntu unplugs vga cards !08:54
reverie:)08:54
holycowMr, so a bash script is executed as ./scriptname08:54
dragonfyre13reverie: hmmm.08:54
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SeraVitaehow can i locate $JAVA_HOME?08:54
holycowno need for extension08:54
ArrenLexSeraVitae: what is $JAVA_HOME?08:54
Mrits x-shellscript08:55
dragonfyre13reverie: try unplugging it, booting, plugging it in, and then booting.08:55
holycowwhat are you trying to do anyway?08:55
Mrinstall lampp08:55
kmitch87dream: I don't know of any other way08:55
SeraVitaeArrenLex - i assume it's the home folder of java.08:55
mikeh_how do i get SMP to work with a -386 kernel?08:55
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ArrenLexSeraVitae: what do you mean by "home folder"?08:55
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holycowah ... thats a whole other thing, i can't help with that, i'm here to help out with installing and configuring ubuntu :)08:55
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holycowmaybe someone else knows08:55
SeraVitaeI don't know. that's all i have to work with.08:55
ArrenLexmikeh: you don't. You have to install a 686 or k7 kernel. There are no 386 machines with more than one CPU!08:56
SeraVitaeit's a variable so i assume it's wherever java was installed to.08:56
Mrok08:56
ArrenLexSeraVitae: java installs to /usr/lib/jvm08:56
Mrthanks anyway08:56
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Mrbbl08:56
|chris3|hi all08:56
reveriedragonfyre13, tried that too08:56
holycowmr no worries08:56
dragonfyre13reverie: hmmmm. Your computer doesn't like you. ^_^08:56
ArrenLexmikeh: apt-get install linux-image-686-smp08:56
|chris3|oddest thing I tried to install telnetd and now my resoltuions are gone08:57
SeraVitaeArrenLex - cool.08:58
mikeh_arrenlex: will a K7 kernel work on an intel cpu08:58
SeraVitaeunfortunately the folder im supposed to stick this extention in, isn't there.08:58
|chris3|I have added them back to xorg.conf and restarted but they still do not show up in the list any ideas?08:58
ArrenLexmikeh: it will WORK, because the instructions are compatible, but you shouldn't use it. Use a 686 kernel on an intel CPI.08:58
ArrenLexU08:58
dragonfyre13mikeh_: I wouldn't try it.08:58
TWiSTEDSOdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg did enter new res mode , did even restart the box , but i cant choose anything ?08:58
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reveriedragonfyre13, microsoft went into partnership of my bios and now im naughty cause i ttried to put linux on it!08:58
|chris3|TWistedSo: same issue here08:58
dragonfyre13reverie: "Microsoft - we even screw up your hardware."08:58
|chris3|TWistedSo: i have no fix08:58
akano1nhow can i set eth1 to default to use? not eth008:58
akano1ni have to ifdown eth0 to get internet working here08:58
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kmitch87dragonfyre13: lol08:58
dragonfyre13kmitch87: you like that?08:59
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kmitch87yea;)08:59
dragonfyre13it just went silent in here.09:00
holycowakano1n, system / admin / networking, at the bottom it will have a pulldown to set the default eth device09:00
ArrenLexakano1n: edit the /etc/network/interfaces file and change the "eth0" default to "eth1".09:00
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TWiSTEDSOanyone that got any hints how do solve the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg problems with adding higher resolutions ?09:01
ArrenLexTWiSTED: what problems are these?09:01
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dragonfyre13TWiSTEDSO: nope.09:01
dragonfyre13TWiSTEDSO: ArrenLex might.09:01
ArrenLexTWiSTED: did you get to the part where you select new resolutions?09:01
sidny4TWiSTEDSO higher resolutions like widescreen resolutions?09:01
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akano1nArrenLex but i dont have anything inside interfaces that says eth0 default09:01
holycowTWiSTEDSO, easy.  google your monitor refresh rates, put the horiz and vetical refresh rates into your xorg.conf file09:01
holycowmake sure to back it up first09:01
ArrenLexTWiSTEDSO: I'm going to say your nae because everyone's doing it.09:01
|chris3|ArrenLex: not matter what we have tried the new resolutions don't show up09:02
holycowno need to use dpkg-reconfigure09:02
akano1njust add default eth1 ?09:02
TWiSTEDSOarrenlex: cant add higher resolutions , did run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and added 1600x1200 and did restart nothing09:02
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dragonfyre13I'll be back guys. Gotta kill the network for a minute.09:02
holycowthen restart gdm and presto, all the resolution capabilities of your monitor will be available in the resolutio napplet09:02
ArrenLexakano1n: try holycow's way; he knows what he's talking about.09:02
|chris3|holycow: I have a plasma tv no google on the res rates09:02
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ArrenLexTWoSTEDSO: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:02
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kmitch87TWiSTEDSO: did you select from system, preferences, screen resolution?09:02
holycow|chris3|, you don't have a choice, you need proper frefresh rates for your display device09:03
holycownow the thing is ...09:03
holycowif its a plasma tv ... you may only get the minimal resolution capability09:03
TWiSTEDSOkmitc: yes system09:03
holycowif its not built for computer work it may not be able to handle all but the basic signal levels09:03
akano1nyeah i know, but its not working how holycow way, i want to set something inside interfaces to set manually09:03
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holycowakano1n, i don't understand tha tlast statement09:04
martyndahi, i have installed apache2 and php5 through apt-get in ubuntu, but when i go to a php file, the browser tries to download it, can someone help me out?09:04
|chris3|ugh....  I hate to say this but windows xp looks great on the tv (dual boot box) and I didn't do anything special to windows to get it to work09:04
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holycowakano1n, i'm just telling you how it works, you cannot get around how it works09:04
ArrenLexakano1n: if eth0 is your default, then it seems to me that just changing all instances of eth0 to eth1 in /etc/network/interfaces should make eth1 your default, no?09:04
sethkmartynda, the apache configuration must specify that php files are executable scripts to be handled on the server side.09:04
holycow|chris3|, if xp works on your tv so will linux, it has nothing to do with anything but the components ability to handle the tv out signal09:04
ArrenLexchris3: do you know what resolution and refresh rate your plasma TV is using in Windows?09:05
holycowakano1n, how is your plasma tv connected to your computer?09:05
akano1nthis is the problem, i have eth0 (wire) and eth1(wifi), i have to ifdown eth0 to get eth1(wifi) working..09:05
ArrenLexOh.09:05
sethkmartynda, in the apache config you'll find a place to add the extension php.  Any directory containing a php file must be specified in the apache config as a directory allowing executable scripts09:05
|chris3|ArrenLex 1280x768 60mhz09:05
holycowakano1n, oh sorry dude your not th eplasma guy :)09:05
Nothing_AboutNO WORRIES PEOPLE , ive fixed my problem09:05
Nothing_Abouti can now install ubuntu09:05
ArrenLexchirs3: I certainly hope it's not mhz XD09:05
holycowakano1n, i got you guys mixed up09:05
holycowsorry09:05
martyndathanks sethk, i didnt know it was per-directory09:06
|chris3|lol sorry09:06
akano1nso it seems that ubuntu is looking first for eth0, when i ifdown eth0, he tries eth1 and it works09:06
ArrenLexchris3: is the plasma your primary monitor?09:06
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|chris3|arrenlex: yes and linux worked great at the resolution about an hour ago09:06
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ArrenLexchris3: what did you change to make it break09:06
JamieBEMorning Everyone!09:06
ArrenLexWhoa, el spanisho.09:07
|chris3|arrenlex: I installed telnetd and restarted then my correct resoltion was gone09:07
holycowakano1n, in your /etc/network/interfaces file set auto to eth0 or eth1 ... whichever you want to be default09:07
TWiSTEDSOArrenLex: http://pastebin.com/80233809:07
ArrenLexchris3: if you didn't touch your xorg.conf, try just pressing ctrl+alt+plus (i.e. the plus key on the numpad)09:07
holycow|chris3|, how is your plasma tv connected to your computer?  just curious09:07
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holycowand since it works on xp then we should be able to get the same resolution here so it looks same09:08
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|chris3|holycox: vga09:08
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holycowwhat you need to know however is all displays have refresh rates .. and you cannot really (not without some serious haxology) set a resolution manually09:08
holycowhow x works is you give it refresh rates for the potential resolutions, give it potential resolutions and restart x09:09
|chris3|holycow: please read my last comments to arrenlex about what caused this issue09:09
JamieBEA few questions this morning maybe some of you can help. Firstly, is there any reason why shares on my internal IDE hard disk share fine over my Samba network with other Windows machines, but my external USB2.0 drive shares all come back as inaccessible when I try to access them over the network?09:09
holycowwhat is happening is your default refresh rates calculate out to only that base resolution09:09
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dragonfyre13I'm back09:09
holycowso you will need to find suitable refresh rates for your tv09:09
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akano1nholycow, i have disable auto eth0, but when i restart, i got eth0 disable...hehehe.. not what i want09:10
dragonfyre13I'm not going to be active, but if you want me, PM me.09:10
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mztrizhow do I create a HFS+ partition I'm trying to dual with OSX09:10
SeraVitaecould anyone suggest an email server for linux that i could use? i wish to setup an IMAP system so i can get my pop3 emails stored on my home server so i can browse them at uni09:10
dragonfyre13mztriz: you don't. Create it in OSX. It's proprietary.09:10
SeraVitaeactually i'd like some fancy web interface one that had a calendar and stuff in it, but fat chance.09:11
MikeyMikedragonfyre13,  there's no way to create hfs+ partitions?09:11
holycowSeraVitae, you will need a couple of servers working together.  a great smtp server is postfix, an a great imap server is cyrus.09:11
holycowthose will let you relay email and access via imap09:11
loper06please help. im trying 2 setup proftpd and have 2 users w/ different dir permisssions. but i can't get it working. help!09:11
MikeyMikehow might one create it in osx if they do not have osx installed09:11
ArrenLexchris3: what happens when you press ctrl+alt+plus?09:11
ArrenLexchris3: what about ctrl+alt+minus?09:11
holycowyou can add a web based interface for cyrus called squirrelmail, its sorta basic but works great09:11
mztrizdragonfyre13: I was reading this tutorial09:12
mztrizhttp://www.teachucomputers.blogspot.com/09:12
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SeraVitaeholycow - are they hard to setup?09:12
kmitch87MikeyMike: OS X automatically creates it in install09:12
JamieBEIs anyone please able to help with that issue I just mentioned?09:12
holycowSeraVitae, yes09:12
ArafangionSeraVitae: You seem to be confusing IMAP with POP309:12
ArrenLexTWiSTEDSO: you still there?09:12
SeraVitaeArafangion - not really.09:12
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holycowSeraVitae, why don't you just download the free version of zimbra09:12
Arafangionholycow: Cyrus sucks.09:12
SeraVitaei haev a pop3 account from my isp, which i wish to automatically download onto an imap server, locally.09:12
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manofcyrusemm..09:12
holycowits all web gui ajaxy stuff and its free09:12
ArafangionSeraVitae: Ahh, I see.  Use postfix, dovecot, and fetchmail.09:12
TWiSTEDSOyes09:13
holycowdovecot?09:13
holycowdovecot?09:13
holycowdude what is wrong with you09:13
holycowSeraVitae, whatever you do don't listen to him09:13
holycowhehe :)09:13
holycowi kid!09:13
SeraVitae_09:13
SeraVitaeso dovecot something to look at?09:13
|chris3|arrenlex: nothing...09:13
ArrenLexTWiSTEDSO: is that your ENTIRE xorg.conf?09:13
SeraVitaeor not..09:13
Arafangionholycow: Dovecot, at the very least, lets you know when it's /not/ working ;)09:13
ArrenLexchris3: does X start at all for you right now?09:13
holycowif you want a quick setup tho get zimbra ... you can either install it with their installer or download the vmware appliance from vmware.com09:13
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Arafangionholycow: Cyrus, on the other hand, is utterly silent - working or not09:13
holycowjust google vmware appliance and in like 4 clicks you have it setup09:14
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loper06please help. im trying 2 setup proftpd and have 2 users w/ different dir permisssions. if my home dir is /media/samba can i have user1 to have full access (d/l,u/l,delete, etc) while user2 can only download?09:14
mztrizkmitch87:http://www.teachucomputers.blogspot.com/ at the bottom of step 3 it says  . Create a new HFS+ partition that is 6 GB using a tool like Partition magic, QTparted, Gparted, etc.09:14
SeraVitaewell see09:14
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SeraVitaethis server was a win2k server with mDeamon on it09:14
SeraVitaewith web interface, all custom themes i made, nice n snazzy.09:14
holycowSeraVitae, yeah just blow that crap away09:14
SeraVitaeso im almost tempted to just run vmware on this box09:14
|chris3|arrenlex: yes09:14
SeraVitaeand just bring mdaemon back up :/09:14
holycowSeraVitae, install debian for server, vmware gives you a frewww vmware server to run09:14
holycowinstall that09:14
holycowthen download the vmware image if zimbra and just go09:14
holycowzimbra.com09:15
ArrenLexchris3: with what resolution?09:15
kmitch87mztriz: last i checked, gparted didn't fully support hfs+09:15
kmitch87mztriz:  maybe it does though...09:15
loper06can some 1 help me with the question above i posted?  thx09:15
mztrizkmitch82: I know I've been looking around trying to find out how to do this...09:15
|chris3|arrenlex 1024x76809:15
SeraVitaeohh that zimbra thing looks sexy.09:15
kmitch87mztriz: download the gparted livecd09:16
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ArrenLexchris3: and what are you trying to get up to?09:16
MikeyMikekmitch87,  she's in the live cd09:16
holycowactually its shit, its an all in one box that acts as ldap and messaging server.  i hate it on principle that its an all in one box, however, you seem to be asking for an all in one box09:16
|chris3|arrenlex 1280x76809:16
holycowdoesn't sound like you want to roll your own09:16
SeraVitaeholycow - let me see i fi can find a picture of my last setup09:16
mztrizkmitch82: I'm running off of the ubuntulive cd right now09:16
SeraVitaewhich i was pretty content with09:16
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ArafangionWhat the heck? mdaemon counts as a "feature": Logging09:17
mztrizkmitch82: could I do this http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=512#309:17
JamieBEIs there any reason why shares on my internal IDE hard disk share fine over my Samba network with other Windows machines, but my external USB2.0 drive shares all come back as inaccessible when I try to access them over the network?09:17
|chris3|arrenlex: that is the native display of my plasma with anything else makes it all streched out09:17
ArrenLexchirs3: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". Go to "medium" difficulty selection when you get to monitor settings and select 1280x768@60hz, or whatever you said Windows set it up safely as. Also make sure to enable that resolution in the resolution portion.09:17
darrellmarlowmorning09:17
loper06can anybody w/ plenty of experince w/ proftpd help?09:17
kmitch87mztriz: i would use the gparted livecd, it uses a more updated partitioner09:17
darrellmarlowI just installed ubuntu for the first time and I am newb at linux09:17
SeraVitaeArafangion - mdaemon was nice09:18
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darrellmarlowwhat do I need to do to play my .mp3 files?09:18
ArrenLex!mp309:18
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:18
SeraVitaeholy wowowow.09:18
aSt3raLdarrellmarlow: xmms09:18
SeraVitaezimbra is like.09:18
SeraVitaeEXACTLY what i wanted. i'm using thier demo now.09:18
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darrellmarlowall music apps seem to not work09:18
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kmitch87darrelmarlow: fluendo codec works09:18
SeraVitaeit's like outlook only web based. PERFECT.09:18
ArafangionSeraVitae: Who the heck decides that "logging" is merely a feature added in version EIGHT of their server?09:18
holycowSeraVitae, windows weenies love that shit09:18
SeraVitaeArafangion - who the hell gets upset about pedantic things and misformed expectations?09:19
SeraVitaeie, go have a cry :P09:19
darrellmarlowis xmms difficult to install because Im super newb on linux09:19
nailbagshi all, how do i set my wireless ssid permantently in ubuntu? (from the command line)09:19
ArrenLexdarrell: no. apt-get install xmms09:19
SeraVitaedarrellmarlow - apt-get install xmms09:19
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holycowdarrellmarlow, or do system / administrator / synaptic09:19
ArafangionSeraVitae: logging isn't exactly a "pedantic" expectation.09:19
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holycowdarrellmarlow, all the software is available via that gui too,  should make your noobiexperience nifty09:20
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asdxdarrellmarlow: sudo apt-get install xmms in a terminal09:20
darrellmarlowdo i type "apt-get install xmms" in terminal?09:20
SeraVitaeno, but i think you could spend your time more wisely09:20
holycowdarrellmarlow, yep09:20
ArrenLexType "sudo apt-get install xmms" in the terminal.09:20
darrellmarlowok will  do09:20
darrellmarlowthx for all the responses09:20
ArafangionSeraVitae: Suppose you download and setup your fancy email server.09:20
ArafangionSeraVitae: And one day it stops working - how do you find out what is wrong, without logs?09:20
|chris3|arrenlex: 1280x768@60hz does not show up only1152x864 and 1280x96009:21
nailbagsanyone?09:21
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ArafangionSeraVitae: Or suppose you have to investigate some issue, how do you do so, without logs?09:21
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SeraVitaeArafangion - but by that time, it won't matter, because your head would've exploded.09:21
|chris3|arrenlex: by only I mean int he range09:21
holycowArafangion, well you buy support and blame it on zimbra09:21
zoidberghey guys in freenode09:21
SeraVitaebecause you'd be going WTFFF LOGS AREN'T FEATURES09:21
SeraVitae:P09:21
darrellmarlowhow do you log in as root in terminal?09:21
darrellmarlowsu?09:21
sloloemHeeey has anyone in here played around with the beta nividia drivers?  the 9xxx series?09:21
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zoidberghow can u see all the users in teh channel on the side or something09:21
zoidberg?09:21
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kmitch87darrelmarlow: sudo -s09:21
nailbagsdarrellmarlow, sudo -s09:21
holycowdarrellmarlow, don't be doing that/!!!!!09:21
Arafangionzoidberg: That would depend on the client.09:21
holycowdudes c'mon09:21
ArrenLexchris3: then I suggest googling for the correct rates for your plasma TV and using the 'advanced' settings, like holycow wants to.09:22
holycowstop telling noobs how to do bad things09:22
ArafangionSeraVitae: How so?09:22
darrellmarlowdont be doing what?09:22
holycowdarrellmarlow, don't be doing silly things like that09:22
|chris3|arrenlex: that going to suck09:22
JamieBECan someone please help with this problem?09:22
holycowjust run every command that needs root priviledges with sudo09:22
SeraVitaeArafangion - never mind09:22
kmitch87he's right darrellmarlow:  use sudo for most tasks09:22
ArafangionSeraVitae: Heck, how do the *developers* implement the damn thing without some logging?09:22
holycowsudo is "a good thing"09:22
darrellmarlowwhat is sudo?09:22
kmitch87sudo is more secure09:22
darrellmarlownice09:22
holycow!sudo09:22
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.09:22
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SeraVitaeholycow - i found the ubuntu install for zimbra, but the vmware images are zimbra+fedora, and on top of that, they are demo's.09:23
darrellmarlowim so newb09:23
holycowSeraVitae, dude stop right there09:23
darrellmarlowthis place is great09:23
SeraVitaeshould i really run ubuntu --> vmware --> fedora --> zimbra? :p09:23
holycowSeraVitae, i already told you to download the vmware image of zimbra first09:23
zoidbergArafangion: well irc client i am using is FREENODE...which comes default with UBUNTU...so i can somehow confiugre it so it can show me the suers in the channel09:23
holycowits easier and faster ... you want to run your serverrs in a virtualized environment09:23
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SeraVitaeholycow - i'm trying to find the vmware image of zimbra.09:23
Arafangionzoidberg: Please don't shou.t09:23
JamieBEAM I VOICED?09:23
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holycoweasy backups, easy to blow away, easy to restore09:23
holycowSeraVitae, google vmware appliance zimbra09:23
holycowdone09:23
darrellmarlowsweet its working09:23
ClayGcan someone recommend a program for the hp laserjet 4p?09:23
ArrenLexchris3: sorry, man, I don't want you to blow your fancy Plasma TV up by using the wrong settings or something. =P Is there any chance you can coerce Windows to reveal the proper settiings?09:23
Arafangionzoidberg: Your *server* is freenode, it does not come "default" with Ubuntu.09:24
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Arafangionzoidberg: Example clients are bitchx, irssi, xchat, gaim, amongst many, many others.09:24
SeraVitae1.5GB vmware appliance?09:24
ArrenLexClayG: check out linuxprinting.org09:24
|chris3|arrenlex; no idea09:24
holycowSeraVitae, why do you care? it has everything including guest os09:24
ClayGah man, thanks09:24
darrellmarlowok it worked! do i have to install it now?09:24
ClayGthat sounds good09:24
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holycowplus its free09:24
holycow>_>09:24
holycowjeebus09:24
darrellmarlowim sorry but  i have tons of questions09:24
ChocoCider09:25
SeraVitaeholycow - Oh, i was just wondering if i should be running linux --> vmware --> linux --> zimbra.09:25
holycowgive em the whole frickin solution for free and they still manage to complain09:25
SeraVitaeon a 433mhz celeron. :p09:25
ChocoCid"do i have to install it" strikes me as a really odd question09:25
holycowSeraVitae, well lets consider something here:09:25
darrellmarlowim just not sure about linux09:25
SeraVitaedarrellmarlow - you just installed it09:25
Arafangionholycow: Typical clueless windows users, indeed.09:25
zoidbergArafangion: sorry my client is xchat....can u help me?09:25
holycowa) you don't haveto install from scratch which means you save lots and lots of time09:25
SeraVitaedarrellmarlow - type 'xmms' and see what happens09:25
darrellmarlowI am clueless windows user09:25
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darrellmarlowi said that from the start09:25
holycowb) you didn't pay for a fricking thing, not a single thing09:25
Arafangionzoidberg: No, I use irssi.  afaik, xchat already has the user list on the side by default.09:25
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SeraVitaeholycow - yeah, that is a good point im not worried at all :)09:25
holycowc) its all preinstalled and a simple download all clicky clicky09:26
ArrenLexholycow: who are you yelling at? o_o09:26
SeraVitaesince i was gonna vmware win2k.09:26
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loper06can anybody w/ plenty of experince w/ proftpd help?09:26
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loper06please help. im trying 2 setup proftpd and have 2 users w/ different dir permisssions. if my home dir is /media/samba can i have user1 to have full access (d/l,u/l,delete, etc) while user2 can only download?09:26
holycowd) considering all that, why not spend like 500$ and get something at least with 1ghz cpu that can run it?09:26
holycowArrenLex, i'm not yelling :) just typing fast09:26
holycowhehe09:26
holycowSeraVitae, sorry don't mean to sound mean09:26
SeraVitaeholycow - every link for googling points me back to http://www.zimbra.com/community/downloads.html , where they list Zimbra ZCS Virtual Application including Fedora version 409:26
SeraVitaejust wanted to check if that was correct.09:26
holycowhttp://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/zimbra.html09:27
holycow180mb btw09:27
holycowoh it does point back to site :)09:27
holycowhehe09:27
SeraVitaeyeah, to ZCS09:28
reveriedragonfyre13, still no posty :(09:28
SeraVitaeit must be that torrent/zip then, yeah?09:28
Arafangionholycow: Have you ever looked at opengroupware?09:28
holycowyeah, i don't like that09:28
holycowproblem with open groupware is it is based on a terrible application server09:29
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holycowalso it uses php, meh :)09:29
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Arafangionholycow: Heh, I don't mind php, but it does make a rather poor choice to do the bulk of code in.09:29
holycowSeraVitae, you know what? i have the bloody vmware image at th eoffice to play with, i don't remember where on that site i downloaded it from!!!09:30
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SeraVitaeheh09:30
SeraVitaei have unlimited bandwith and don't care so i'll download it anyways09:30
holycowArafangion, thats exactly it with groupware things ... they ALWAYS grow beyond their designed spec09:30
ArafangionSeraVitae: Unlimited, eh?09:30
SeraVitaethe link you gave me to the VTMS thingy, has ZCS09:30
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SeraVitaeor rather, seems to have just changed names09:30
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ArafangionSeraVitae: I've only got 1.5mbit/s :(09:30
akano1nhow do i search for a package?09:30
SeraVitaei have 512kbps unlimited.09:30
reverieLOL09:30
Arafangionakano1n: apt-cache search pkg-name09:31
reverieI have a 384k adsl line09:31
reverieso don't start09:31
akano1nthanks09:31
SeraVitaeheh.09:31
ArafangionSeraVitae: Then, I have three times the bandwidth than you.09:31
reverieand a 5gb cap!09:31
holycowzimbra is good for people who want like an all in one one clicky clicky deal and just leave it at that09:31
SeraVitaedude. that blows :(09:31
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kishoreubotu, zimbra09:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about zimbra - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:31
reverieand it costs us like 10% of my fiance and i's collective salary09:31
ArafangionSeraVitae: You have unlimited downloads - not unlimited bandwidth.09:31
SeraVitaeholycow - yeah, the demo made my crotch tingle09:31
holycowi don't like zimbras development approach so if you wanted to do anything else down the road, donno not how i would do things.  its good just for calendaring todo and email09:31
SeraVitaeArafangion - you need a spliff dude. :D09:31
SeraVitaeyou have unlimited seriousness09:32
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ArafangionSeraVitae: Trust me, there's a huge difference when you start managing servers.09:32
SeraVitaeProbably but this is for 1 user. moi09:32
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holycowyeah.  what Arafangion said. but at least this gets him into something right away.  he can learn the rest later.09:33
JamieBEAm I +v yet?09:33
SeraVitaei won't be upgrading once it works09:33
Arafangionholycow: I'm not happy with the current state of calendaring.09:33
ChocoCiduh09:33
holycowgetting ANYONE off of exchange makes mehappy to begin with09:33
ChocoCidwhat the heck @ "am i +v yet"09:33
holycowArafangion, lol me too09:33
ChocoCidnobody's +v in here09:33
holycowcaldav is the way to go, groupdav too09:33
reverieThis is nice, I think Dapper's default kernel has screwed up my vga card09:33
holycowArafangion, but no one but open source projects are supporting those things09:33
ArafangionChocoCid: Shhh!09:33
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holycowreverie, kernels cannot screw up video cards09:34
holycowreverie, unless the kernel magically 'flashed' the firmware on your vid card, it ain't happening09:34
holycow:)09:34
reverieholycow, I know, I'm just irritated09:34
holycowreverie, oh sorry don't mean to make it worse!09:34
holycowhehe09:34
mztrizhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27343809:34
Arafangionholycow: I should code one - a good way to test a "calendar" widget in one of my pet projects, but the real problem with calendaring is that nobody can agree on a damn protocol, except for CalDav, which stinks.09:34
JamieBEChocoCid, so why can I ask a question over half an hour 5 times and get no response from the entire room?09:34
kloshi any native englisch speaker here who got 5 minutes to read a motivation letter for applying to university and maybe correct it ??09:34
reverieholycow, this is the 4th time trying to get dapper working that after booting and it hanging my box will not post09:34
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reverieand its not faulty hardware09:35
mztrizklos I'll help09:35
ChocoCidJamieBE: either nobody saw it or nobody knew the answer09:35
ChocoCidi suggest asking again09:35
holycowreverie, ah that has nothing to do with ubuntu09:35
klosmztriz, query09:35
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klosah no09:35
klosi'll nopaste it09:35
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holycowthats a hardware/bios issue, i've had that happen a few times09:35
JamieBEChocoCid: Sounds fair. Here it goes...09:35
reverieholger, don't burst my post-trumatic-kernel-panic-ranting-disorder09:35
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ArafangionJamieBE: Either that the question was pointless, such as "Am I +v yet?"09:35
holycowArafangion, #offtopic?09:36
holycowi'm curious about your thoughts on caldav?09:36
JamieBEArafangion, how about you quit breaking my 8-balls?09:36
kloshm damn no <br> in nopaste09:36
kloshehe09:36
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kloshttp://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/4141/?format=txt09:36
holycowreverie, heh efunny :)09:36
klosany bette rpasting service ?09:37
Arafangionholycow: I haven't honestly studied it much, but I have a major problem with putting all the logic into the application, rather than the server.09:37
mztrizklos ok09:37
ChocoCidrafb.net/paste09:37
reverieholger, but seriously, there's some kernel issue because this has only happened to be with dapper09:37
ChocoCid(imo)09:37
holycowArafangion, oh me too.  are you a coder by trade or?09:37
Arafangionholycow: I'm studying Software Engineering, I graduate next year.09:37
holycowArafangion, ah cool. was just curious09:37
Arafangionholycow: :)09:37
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SeraVitaehow can i change a file association? i just installed azureus but torrents are still linked to the original bittorent software09:37
holycowcaldav is fine imho for web based things as there the logic is on the server09:38
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JamieBEI have a samba setup between this Ubuntu Dapper box, and 2 Windows machines. Shares locally, within /home/ work fine, but I am trying to share folders that exist on an external USB 2.0 hard disk and it keeps coming back as "inaccessible" every time I try. What's that all about? The drive is mounted and the share attribs look spot on.09:38
holycowcaldav clients on the otherhand ... meh09:38
Arafangionholycow: My summer job is a windows shop, afaik - but I checked their kitchens, and they have decent coffee machines, so that's cool. :)09:38
holycowArafangion, i've given up on the client software idea i'm thinking thatmost my needs can be served with a web based interface09:38
klosmztriz, maybe oyu could gopy it into a text file again, would make it easier to read09:38
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holycowArafangion, introduce them to the magic of linux bro :)09:38
Arafangionholycow: Which, incidently, puts the logic on the server side.09:38
drewzfIs VMWare a viable option if I want to operate in Ubuntu but have access to Windows for PSCS2 & Gaming? Or should I just stick to dual booting?09:39
orbin!defaultapp > SeraVitae09:39
reverieholger, you mean the magic of breakign vga cards, right?09:39
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holycowdrewzf, not really, too slow and i'm not sure if 3d acceleration is supported09:39
Nothing_aboutok can anyone help me out with a problem i have when i start up ubuntu live cd09:39
drewzfholycow, stick to dual booting?09:39
mztrizklos, I already did that heh.09:40
holycowcan anyone confirm 3d acceleratio nsupport for windows guests under vmware?09:40
Arafangionholycow: afaik, vmware does support 3d accel (partially)09:40
klosmztriz, are oyu in another network to query doenst work here09:40
holycowdrewzf, i would yes, infact i would use separate hard drives.  games take up a lot of room these days09:40
holycowArafangion, ah really? enough to play games?09:40
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drewzfI have a very capable system. 2GB RAM, dual core AMD 4600+09:40
Arafangionholycow: It's one of the major technical advantages over qemu + kqemu. (VMware's other advantage is that it's much more polished)09:40
Nothing_aboutthe live cd loads and at the stage of loading kernal gets ome kind of hdc command not ready or something09:40
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Nothing_aboutand then loads normaly09:40
SeraVitaethanks orbin09:41
Nothing_aboutafter that it does the system check or something09:41
Arafangionholycow: My 1.3 GHz system has trouble with many 3D games, I don't think vmware has a chance regardless of 3d accel.09:41
drewzfI have seperate HDD's, my Ubuntu install is on a 320GB SATA, Windows is on a 170GB nothing-special Maxtor.09:41
Arafangiondrewzf: No shit!09:41
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Arafangiondrewzf: :)09:41
holycowArafangion, lol, i don't play games.  my trusty 1.4 ghz thunderbird cpu here can handle pretty much anything09:41
drewzf<3 sarcasm.09:41
holycowthere isn't such a thing as a slow computer any more imho except for certain specific tasks09:41
holycowactually09:41
Arafangionholycow: But they all play nethack rather nicely :)09:41
drewzfWell, can I configure grub to select a specific Windows install from my secondary HDD?09:41
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holycowimho if it wasn't for games people would of stopped upgrading after 1 ghz cpus i think09:41
ChocoCidnah09:42
holycowdrewzf, yes09:42
drewzfholycow, How? #grub?09:42
Nothing_aboutand then Starts to load ubuntu , upon the ubuntu splash screen popup it loads all the stuff then it gets stuck loading , !! Nautilus !! and i dont know what do to but turn off my pc .09:42
Nothing_aboutSo can anyone tell me what Nautilus is09:42
holycowdrewzf, the trick is to install windows first on its own hd ... windows always wants to be on c:09:42
Arafangionholycow: It still surprises me that many people, expecially windows users, obsess about CPU performance, and still just pack 512MB or so of RAM into the system.09:42
klosfile manager09:42
Momalcould not open default font 'fixed' <-- anyone know a fix?09:42
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klosArafangion, right :P09:43
Nothing_aboutDoes anyone have any ideas09:43
Nothing_aboutor could plz tell me what Nautilus is ?09:43
Arafangionholycow: Especially with .NET and Java being so ram heavy (And pathetically pathetic with swap)09:43
drewzfholycow, Windows has been installed first on it's own HDD, but my 1st install is my Vista beta (crap) and I'd prefer to select XP without deleting Vista.09:43
JamieBENothing_about - Check your PM09:43
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ArafangionNothing_about: Nautilus is Nautilus.  I hear that it's supposed to be some kind of file manager, but who knows what it really is.09:43
klosdrewzf, how's vista09:43
kloswhats new09:44
drewzfklos, Very sexy. Needs a lot of work.09:44
Nothing_aboutok so how do i check my pm09:44
drewzfNot stable yet, sadly.09:44
holycowdrewzf, you can, grub needs to installed as the bootloader on that sector instead of the windows bootloader ... then you tell grub where everything is09:44
kloslooks better than xgl09:44
klos?09:44
drewzfAnd a very large number of games can cause very large problems.09:44
drewzfIMHO, yes.09:44
JamieBENothing_about -  if you press ALT and F2 together and type in nautilus, it will open and you can see what it is. You will kick you will kick yourself! :)09:44
Nothing_aboutand all im trying to do is going into live cd , and install ubuntu from the desktop09:44
klos:P09:44
Arafangiondrewzf: The #winehq folks are saying that soon, they will be more compatible than windows itself.09:44
drewzfI doubt it.09:44
Arafangiondrewzf: Well, vista doesn't support DX909:45
drewzfis #winehq Cedega or WINE?09:45
holycowdrewzf, an easy way to do it without learning grub is to reinstall ubuntu on the second hd, ubuntu installer will recognize the windows partitions ... so you tell ubuntu to install to hd grub to install to boot sector on other hd and voila09:45
drewzfArafangion, there are hacks.09:45
ChocoCid#winehq is WINE09:45
holycowdrewzf, of course make sure you have backups09:45
hazexpdrewzf: WINE09:45
Arafangiondrewzf: Such as?09:45
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holycowArafangion, i agree, i max out all my machines with ram09:46
loper06please help. im trying 2 setup proftpd and have 2 users w/ different dir permisssions. if my home dir is /media/samba can i have user1 to have full access (d/l,u/l,delete, etc) while user2 can only download?09:46
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drewzfArafangion, You can emulate XP & x86 when installing DX9, it requires some dll re-placement. There are guides available.09:46
Arafangionholycow: I want to stick another GB of ram into this lappy, but gotta get some money first :(09:46
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holycowthe eternal student cunundrum09:46
ChocoCidheh09:46
holycowto eat or to buy hardware09:46
holycow>_>09:46
ChocoCidwe need to get a Open Hardware movement going09:46
ChocoCidso we can get Free/Open Hardware09:46
holycowArafangion, kimchi noodles for the next few months?09:47
drewzfI've found so many incompatibilities with wine it's nerve racking.09:47
holycowhehe09:47
ArafangionChocoCid: Already done.09:47
holycow:)09:47
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ChocoCidArafangion: link to free hardware plz09:47
drewzfwracking or racking... I think it's wracking.09:47
Arafangionholycow: Bah, only Hokkien noodles are decent.09:47
ChocoCidwracking, yeah09:47
hazexpopen hardware, it's been done, in terms of open source hardware09:47
ArafangionChocoCid: The Sun Niagara is supposed to be one.09:47
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hazexpyeah09:47
holycowlol ... a CONNESEUR!09:47
drewzfI like Cedega's system, just not their principals.09:47
holycow:)09:47
ChocoCidheh09:47
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ChocoCidi specifically threw the "fre" in there for a reason09:48
ChocoCid*free09:48
Arafangionholycow: Don't get me started with coffee ;)09:48
holycowwhat do you guys mean open hardware has beendone?09:48
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holycowhardly09:48
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holycowwhere are the motherboards with openbios?09:48
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holycowwhere are the properly documented components?09:48
Arafangionholycow: There's "LinuxBios".09:48
drewzfIf I re-install GRUB on my Ubuntu install will it re-detect my HDD's?09:48
holycowArafangion, yes but no mobos09:48
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drewzfI've been getting an error with my Vista install detection, it says I need to run chkdisk, which Vista doesn't prompt me for.09:48
holycowand linux bios is just a bios bootloader btw, its now part of openbios :)09:48
Arafangionholycow: And I saw an article saying that someone was making open video cards.09:49
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holycowArafangion, thats the only project yes09:49
holycowand i will be installing those cards on every single system09:49
Arafangionholycow: How much are they?09:49
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hazexpOpen Hardware doesn't mean that it has to be free to buy, it means that the information on recreating the same hardware must be free09:49
holycowits a nifty project infact, i think they will do some unique things with it09:49
hazexphttp://www.opencollector.org/Whyfree/open_hardware.html09:49
ChocoCidopen video cards?09:49
ChocoCidlink link link09:49
drewzfThere's open hardware. Get a job at best buy, drop a system off the truck into some bushes near your home, come back for it later and scrap it XD. Unethical, but what's ethical nowadays?09:49
chendois there a way to get dhcpd to automatically update the DNS?09:50
holycowArafangion, i don't know, i think expensive at first because are using those reprogramable cpus09:50
Arafangionholycow: That's what I thought. :(09:50
holycowso they will at first service various niches09:50
Arafangionholycow: Personally, I feel they should try and get the cost down as much as possible, and stuff them into laptops.09:50
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wickedpuppyChocoCid, http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/28/01822709:50
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holycowArafangion, they are working on those as well ... something about embedded solutions09:51
Arafangionholycow: It's not like they're competing with the likes of ATI, so surely they can target the budget market.09:51
holycowArafangion, in any case it doesn't matter if the first ones are expensive i want them to be profitable right away09:51
hawkaloogiewhat's the best method for packet scheduling on Linux? HTB?09:51
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hazexpWireshark09:51
hazexpwhoops09:51
holycowthey have the right phiolosphical reasoning so if they can build up the open source market they should be able to get the cheap stuff out in a few generations09:51
hazexpnope, I was thinking sniffing09:51
hazexpnvm09:51
holycowArafangion, hard to actually compete in the budget market a 50$ nvidia is very powerfull :)09:52
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klosmztriz, lets joins #blablup09:52
Arafangionholycow: In desktops, perhaps - but laptops are entirely different.09:52
holycowbut having a trully open vid card, i think thats wroth a heck of a lot to me09:52
hawkaloogiei have to make a choice of BSD or Linux on my gateway computer, and I'd like it to be ubuntu-server, but I can't find anything like PF (or nearly as easy to use)09:52
wickedpuppywhats PF ?09:53
hazexppfsense09:53
hazexpfirewall09:53
Arafangionhawkaloogie: You have iptables on linux, which is ok, not as nicely documented as PF, though.09:53
Arafangionhawkaloogie: pfsense?09:53
hawkaloogiepf is packetfilter09:53
holycowhawkaloogie, i would use bsd if that is what you are familar with ... it makes a great solution for that kinda thing09:53
Arafangionhawkaloogie: If you've just got a rather basic firewall requirement - masq, blocking ports, etc, only two nic's, one external, one internal, etc, check out shorewall09:54
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Arafangionhawkaloogie: Or just install OpenBSD09:54
hawkaloogienono, i need scheduling. i need bandwidth limiting, i need reverse proxy, i need a whole bunch of stuff ;-)09:54
sethkhawkaloogie, bsd has what you want, so why do you not want to use it?09:54
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valehruIs there a recommended solution for editing/creating Flash/swf files in linux?09:54
sethkhawkaloogie, I use NetBSD for my firewalls.09:54
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holycowvalehru, it cannot be done, you need macromedia flash ide09:54
hawkaloogiei tried OpenBSD, and am concerned about it's bass-ackwards nature09:54
Arafangionhawkaloogie: Ahh, so you don't just want a firewall.09:54
Arafangionhawkaloogie: How so?09:55
valehruholycow, le bugger....oh well..thanks09:55
sethkhawkaloogie, netbsd09:55
holycowthere is a flash4linux ide under development but its pre alpha and the dude could really use some help09:55
hazexphawkaloogie: What are you looking for in a gateway computer? Because I've always been partial to IPCop Firewall www.ipcop.org09:55
Arafangionhawkaloogie: The only problem with OpenBSD, imho, is it's hardware support.09:55
hawkaloogiesethk, NetBSD has nice packages for apache2? and more... current software?09:55
sethkhawkaloogie, yes09:55
hawkaloogieArafangion, surprisingly, i got it to work on an extremely old computer with ISA cards09:55
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sethkhawkaloogie, they just posted an update a few days ago; go on their site and get the specifics.09:55
hawkaloogieanyway, i should get back on-topic09:55
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hawkaloogiethanks sethk and Arafangion09:56
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Arafangionhawkaloogie: Yes, but I doubt you'll get excellent performance out of a 2GHz system with 4 GB RAM.09:56
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hawkaloogieArafangion, i'll keep that in mind w/ openbsd (i just run it for a mail server right now)09:56
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mztrizklos, I haven't forgotten about you (just an FYI that I"m still editing your paper)09:56
ArafangionThat reminds me, it'd be cool if OpenBSD was ported to Xen.\09:57
klosmztriz, lets joins #blablup09:57
klos:P09:57
mztrizok09:57
ArafangionMake a great virtual system. :)09:57
rezahelp plz! after upgrading to edgy i can not run X, failed to load module "vesa" (module requirement mismatch 0) and some more errors any help?09:57
CromagDKtried askine ppl in #ubuntu+1 ?09:57
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ghostshadow189hi all , will screen resolution in gnome change , if i change it in icewm ?09:58
NormalDoes Ubuntu recognize Usb flash drives?09:59
SeraVitaeyes09:59
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NormalSeraVitae: yes, who?09:59
hazexpto you10:00
hawkaloogieNormal, yes, it does10:00
wickedpuppyNormal, it does ... i am using tons of usb drives10:00
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NormalWhere does it show up?10:00
deFryskghostshadow189, gets a no10:00
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holycowjust an icon on your desktop10:00
RawSewagehow do you join mulitpart .avi10:00
wickedpuppyNormal, on the desktop + /media10:00
RawSewageok thx10:01
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NormalNeither nor for me10:01
RawSewageoh, youre not talking to me10:01
davinHi, how do I rename a file from the shell?10:01
wickedpuppyLOL10:01
mickrealrm10:01
mickrealhaha nah, mv filename10:01
wickedpuppymickreal, that will remove10:01
mickrealwas joking10:01
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wickedpuppymickreal, pls do not joke .. if it was important file ...10:02
mickrealmv filename newfilename10:02
NormalWell, I'll add it to the list of parts that don't work for me: Graphics card, Sound card, and now Usb drive...ahhhh10:02
davincheers10:02
mickrealwon't joke about that again.. ;)10:02
eL_PuaSHas my card intel i810 acceleration 3D?10:02
rezahelp plz! after upgrading to edgy i can not run X, failed to load module "vesa" (module requirement mismatch 0) and some more errors any help?10:02
wickedpuppyNormal, unplug ... dmesg .. plug in .. dmesg .. check if ther is any error .. if so pls paste10:02
Flannelreza: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support10:02
ArafangionNormal: Which graphics card? Which sound card? Which USB drive?10:03
orbinRawSewage: cd into the directory and then: cat *.avi > joined.avi10:03
hazexpNormal: What FS is your USB Drive formatted as? FAT16/32 or NTFS or other?10:03
ArafangionNormal: I've only come across *one* usb drive that didn't work, and that was a wierd one.10:03
RawSewageorbin, ty10:03
wickedpuppywill that join the avi like ... edited by sony vega ?10:03
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wickedpuppythen why the hell people buy sony vega ?10:04
Nothing_abouthey i need some help10:04
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orbinRawSewage: that joins all the avi files in the dir though.  if you want just one or two, replace the *.avi bit10:04
Nothing_aboutwhile the ubuntu was loading kernal , the hardware drivers where not found and has faild or something10:04
Nothing_aboutwhat do i do ?10:04
Normalwickedpuppy: dmesg?  Arafangion: 6600 GT , Audigy 4 SE, and my usbs name has worn off...But crap, 2.6.9 is the only kernel that works for me. 2.6.15 all freeze10:04
EspenBeWhy are the net-services in inet.d listening to tcp6?  I have to use v4 in a few cases.  How can I do that?10:04
RawSewageorbin, it knows about .001  .002  etc?10:04
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Nothing_aboutto fix this problem10:04
Wespehi, what does "Unable to locate loadable module in module_path: "liblighthouseblue.so"" MEAN?10:04
mickrealNothing: during bootup?10:04
ArafangionNormal: Let me guess... ATI?10:04
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orbinRawSewage: yes, i've joined rar files that way10:04
RawSewageok10:04
wickedpuppyNormal, type dmesg ... you will see what i mean .. i gotta go cya10:04
Nothing_aboutyeh during live cd boot up10:04
Wespeand how can I fix it?10:05
Nothing_aboutwhile its loading kernal10:05
Nothing_aboutand uncomprassing or something10:05
mickrealhmm, i've had this during normal bootup and it's been the video card drivers10:05
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mickrealwere set to nvidia, i changed to nv and didn't have the problem again10:05
NormalWhat do I do with the info spit out by dmesg?10:05
Nothing_aboutalso it cant find my bios , manufacuture etc files or soemthing10:05
mickrealdon't know about live cd boot though10:05
ArafangionNormal: Paste it to the pastebin10:05
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Nothing_aboutyeh im trying to install ubuntu10:06
_rockstarHm, anyone have the fglrx driver working in edgy?10:06
Nothing_aboutand it loads up live cd10:06
Nothing_aboutdoing this on my lame laptop i think somethings wrong10:06
Flannel_rockstar: #ubuntu+1 for edgy10:06
mickrealdid you do install to hard drive?10:06
Nothing_aboutno10:06
Nothing_abouti cant install ubuntu without10:06
mickrealyou using desktop or server?10:06
Nothing_aboutgoing threw live cd10:06
Nothing_aboutdesktop10:06
NormalI see my usb drive's there, it just doesn't come up in media or the desktop10:06
Nothing_aboutthe newest version , ubuntu desktop 6.0610:07
mickrealdon't think i can help you sorry, i'm using server and did a install to harddrive10:07
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Nothing_aboutyeh well ive tried the live cd out on my main comp10:07
Nothing_aboutthat im using now10:07
Wespewhat does "Unable to locate loadable module in module_path: "liblighthouseblue.so"" mean and how can I fix it?10:07
Nothing_aboutand everything worked fine10:07
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Nothing_abouton the desktop was a install file10:07
mickrealmaybe it is the laptop then??10:08
ArafangionWespe: What the heck is "liblighthouseblue.so"?10:08
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ChocoCidthink that's an image file?10:08
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Nothing_aboutyeh thats what im saying but still linux should support 128mb or ram and 700mhz cpu10:08
WespeArafangion: i really don't know10:08
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mickrealindeed it should10:08
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Nothing_aboutits not like im installing windows vista on the hting10:08
FlannelNothing_about: linux does.10:08
ArafangionNormal: Linux _does_ support 128mb of ram.10:08
mickrealhehe ubuntu is better anyway :)10:08
Nothing_aboutyeh so im just wondering why there are these problems of loading live cd10:09
ArafangionNormal: Heck, I've run it on a 24MB system for quite some time./10:09
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Nothing_aboutand so i can install ubuntu and replace windows xp10:09
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ArafangionNothing: Ahh, that's a disadvantage of live cd's in general.10:09
FlannelNothing_about: because it's loading the entire OS into your ram10:09
Nothing_aboutyeh that might be it10:09
mneptonNothing_about: the Live CD *plus* the installation routine requires a bit more than 128MB. either get the alternate CD, or try Xubuntu, which may be a better match for the slower hardware.10:09
NormalI have 2Gb of RAM10:09
FlannelNothing_about: and reading additional stuff off the CD, at CD speed10:09
whatever_can someone tell me how to stop xserver without it auto-loading the xserver again...i'm using the "sudo killall Xorg" cmd10:09
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ArafangionNothing_about: And the CD can't use any swap files, either.10:10
mickrealso the live cd loads and then gives a drivers error?10:10
Flannelwhatever_: sudo /etc/init.d/[somethign xserverish]  stop10:10
Nothing_aboutok10:10
Arafangionwhatever_: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop10:10
Nothing_aboutno live cd loads10:10
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Nothing_aboutbut while kernal loading the hardware files where not found10:10
Nothing_aboutand has faild to locate10:10
whatever_ok i will try those, ty10:10
Nothing_aboutbut thing is it still loads up the splash screen of ubuntu10:10
holycowNothing_about, well don't worry about it10:11
holycowit works10:11
mneptonNothing_about: but  .... you just said you had booted the Live CD and saw the desktop and installer.10:11
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holycowwhats the problem?10:11
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Nothing_aboutyeh ive loaded the live cd from my main computer10:11
Nothing_aboutthat runs it normaly10:11
Nothing_aboutso i tried it on my slow laptop10:11
holycowand your surprised about what?10:12
holycowits a live cd10:12
Nothing_aboutwhich needs an OS besides windows xp to use on it10:12
holycowits A LOT slower than if you had it on the hd10:12
josihi, can anybody remove the global ban for *@versanet.de for the channels #ubuntu-de and #ubuntu-de-treffpunkt?10:12
Flanneljosi: #ubuntu-ops10:12
mickrealNothing: so you are booting the live cd right?10:12
mneptonNothing_about: have you tried one of the -alternate CDs?10:12
Nothing_aboutWell the thing is it got to the ubuntu splash screen and has stoped loading , from Nautilus10:12
Nothing_aboutno i havnt tried the alternate cds10:12
mickrealwhy don't you install it to the hdd?10:13
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Nothing_aboutbut thats because it got to the splash screen to load gnome an all that10:13
mneptonNothing_about: try the Xubuntu alternate CD on that laptop. it should install fine.10:13
holycowNothing_about, well itgs a live cd10:13
mickrealthat way it's not maxing out your ram10:13
holycowNothing_about, you don't have enough ram it seems10:13
Nothing_aboutwell 128mb of ram i thought would be enuff to run linux10:13
Nothing_aboutbut for the live cd there are alot of problems10:13
peace-keeperanyone know a good hex editor with low level disk/partition access ?10:13
mickrealnot if it's loading the livecd into 12810:13
SeraVitaeNothing_about - live cd is chunky as hell.10:14
mneptonNothing_about: try the Xubuntu alternate CD on that laptop. it should install fine. (x2)10:14
FlannelNothing_about: it is .  not to run linux from a lvieCD10:14
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mickrealthat won't be enough... do and install to the hdd10:14
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holycowNothing_about, dude, which part of LIVE CD don't you get?10:14
deFrysk128 is pretty low10:14
holycowit has to LOAD EVERYTHING INTO RAM10:14
holycowjesus10:14
deFryskI would use xubuntu with 12810:14
SeraVitaethat said i am on a 433mhz celeron with 192mb of ram, running ubuntu + azureus.10:14
SeraVitaetakes about 5-10 seconds to bring up the applications menu. :D10:14
Nothing_aboutok10:14
mickrealif ubuntu is installed on the hdd it can run with 128 ram10:14
Nothing_aboutwell ill go and download xubuntu10:14
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FlannelNothing_about: download the alternate ISO10:14
Nothing_aboutthnxz for the help pplz10:14
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mickrealif you're live cding it, you'll max out the ram as it's loading it to there10:15
mneptonNothing_about: and get the *alternate* CD :)10:15
peace-keeperi have an athlon500 and 768mb ram, and winxp is about twice as fast as ubuntu10:15
deFryskalternate yes!10:15
mickrealmnepton: not necessary10:15
Nothing_aboutyes i understand live cd needs to laod the whole OS into ram10:15
SeraVitaeif installing to a low-end box it is better to install ubuntu server-style10:15
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SeraVitaethen apt-get unbuntu desktop10:15
SeraVitaeor alternate cd.. but not livecd.10:15
holycowpeace-keeper, lol, your running a live cd too?10:15
holycow*sigh*10:15
Flannelalternate CD is good, even if you want to install a server you can10:15
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deFryskpeace-keeper, with or without spyware- virus-scanner and firewall ?10:16
mickreali agree with Sera, install the server then apt-get install desktop10:16
peace-keeperno, hard disk10:16
Nothing_aboutlol sorry for the questions just new at this whole linux stuff10:16
mickrealNothing: all good, gotta start somewhere10:16
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Flannelno need to install server, install via alternate10:16
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unfknblvbl!codec10:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:16
Nothing_aboutok ill install from alternate iso10:16
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:16
gathhi, i need some help on ACPI - ubuntu won't power off my computer10:16
mneptonNothing_about: no worries. you're just trying to get a graphical Linux system onto older hardware. not gonna happen with a LiveCD without issues. use the alternate CD to install Xubuntu and you'll be good.10:16
holycowNothing_about, its okay, yeah what mickreal said.  the important thing is not to jump to conclusions, but learn why things work the way they do.  that will make it a lot more fun10:16
gathany experts around? :)10:16
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orbinhello.  what do people play FLVs with?  totem-xine + w32codecs loads them fine, but i get no sound and the video stutters.10:17
peace-keeperface the truth, linux is nice for techies, but as a desktop OS it's slower and less reliable than win xp :)10:17
ubunt_hi. i run dapper on vmware player and the highest resolution that i can choose in preferences is 1024.786, but i need 1280x1024. how to do it?10:17
holycowgath, usually no, but ask anyway :)10:17
Nothing_aboutyeh well im off to download the alternate iso right now10:17
mickrealit's not less reliable than xp when you can use it10:17
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mickrealthough it is less reliable than xp when learning it10:18
holycowor slower, heh10:18
gathholycow, i've tried all sorts of kernel options like acpi=force, acpi=off, acpi=on, nolapic, etc, but nothing works10:18
holycowgath,  nothing works what tho?10:18
mneptonpeace-keeper: i really appreciate that you took the time to back up those seemingly subjective statements with facts. makes it much easier not to label you an idiot troll. :)10:18
mickrealhahaha @ mnepton10:18
gathholycow, all processes are killed but it stops at powering off the monitor and the computer10:18
mickrealgood calll10:18
Munksgaardboing boing10:18
peace-keeperjust saying my experience, ive spent a lot of time on ubuntu10:18
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peace-keeperand dont insult me plz10:19
holycowgath, so its just not shutting down?10:19
gathholycow, right10:19
mickrealpeace-keeper - don't insult the majority then ;)10:19
gathholycow, the last message I see is [x.y]  Power down.10:19
Juhazit's not an insult to call an idiot troll a idiot troll10:19
gathholycow,  x and y being "random" numbers10:19
peace-keeperi dont insult anyone10:19
holycowgath, *hmm* thats too esoteric a qeustion for me, i don't know actually.  i'm sorry :/ maybe someone else has a clue.10:19
gathholycow, ok thanks10:19
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mickrealpeace-keeper - ignorance is bliss ;)10:19
peace-keeperi just say that as a desktop OS i find ubuntu slower, more complicated and less reliable than win xp10:20
mneptongath: have you tried acpi=off apm=on ?10:20
peace-keeperif its not allowed to say that in here, kick me out10:20
holycowpeace-keeper, spending lots of time on ubntu and actually knowing whats going on are two different things10:20
mickrealmaybe you should upgrade your hardware10:20
CartasCould someone please help me with Ubuntu + Wine + WoW?10:20
gathholycow, yep10:20
holycowpeace-keeper, why not try us and explain where xp excels over linux10:20
holycowlets see if we can bat them down10:20
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holycowpeace-keeper, okay so:10:20
mickrealCartas - try automatix for wine, don't know about WoW though10:20
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holycowslower - what does this mean? video response? applications? what?10:21
peace-keeper1: it's twice as fast on my machine, 2. i does not crash every day, 3. it is much easier to use (ok i understand the last one may be a matter of learning..)10:21
Cartasmickreal: Is that a channel, or a person?10:21
holycowcomplicated - this is wrong, everything is open to you and if you want to you can modify whatever you want.  xp is closed and you cant modify anything10:21
mneptongath: have you looked at BIOS settings relating to power management? what software infterface does the BIOS expect? ACPI or APM?10:21
ChocoCidwe have a fanboy10:21
Jesse1984hey ppl, im having a hell of a time trying to install ubuntu 6.06, i have read all sorts of faq's and help docs u guys have pointed me too and still no luck.  Is there a way to delete grub, mbr and format hard drive and start fresh???10:21
holycowmore reliable - don't let me start laughing10:21
mickrealCarta - apt-get install automatix10:21
holycowsorry that last one is just wrong on levels i can't begin to imagine10:21
peace-keeperdont get me wrong, i like linux, but as a desktop OS it's still disappointing for me10:21
CartasOh10:22
gathmnepton, my bios supports ACPI10:22
ChocoCidsure, Jesse1984, just reinstall from scratch and select the reformat option on the install10:22
holycow1. on your machine, what does 'slow mean' ... what is slow?10:22
gathmnepton, and i've enabled everything i possibly can10:22
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gathmnepton, if it means anything, xp shuts down without a hitch10:22
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holycow2. ubuntu doesn't crash, if yours crashes yhou screwed something up. seriously10:22
Arafangionpeace-keeper: Indeed, sucks much less than windows, though - the best I've seen is probably Mac OS X.10:22
mneptongath: maybe that's the issue? what happens if you use only a barbeones feature set in the BIOS?10:22
Jesse1984chococid: u mean with the alternate cd?10:22
ChocoCidno, on the normal cd10:22
ChocoCidwhen you go through the normal GUI install on the livecd10:22
Jesse1984live cd?10:22
ChocoCidyeah10:22
Arafangionholycow: Ubuntu doesn't crash?10:22
gathmnepton, so you're suggesting i disable some of the options?10:23
holycow3. yes the last one is learning, 15 years of learning ONE ui is a lot different from understaining the principal interface guidlines10:23
ChocoCidon step 3 or 4 when it asks you what you want to do with your hard drive10:23
gathmnepton, ... in the bios10:23
peace-keeperslow means: firefox takes about 10 seconds to start, windows paint slowly, even switching tasks sometimes takes a few seconds10:23
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hazexpJesse1984: If you want to wipe the MBR, use a DOS boot disk, then run "fdisk /mbr"10:23
holycowArafangion, it doesn't because 'ubuntu crashes' makes no sense10:23
mneptongath: quite so.10:23
ChocoCidselect "reformat"10:23
Arafangionpeace-keeper: Are you hitting swap?10:23
mneptonpeace-keeper: running the correct kernel for your CPU?10:23
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gathmnepton, what makes you think that would work?10:23
Jesse1984chococid: yeh it wont do it! i have tried and it sits at the "installing system" part for like 15mins then shuts down everytime!?10:24
occultis timhaughton10:24
Arafangionmnepton: Nearly irrelevent.10:24
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peace-keeperi think swap is no problem, i have 768 ram10:24
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Jesse1984hazexp: ok i will try that thanks10:24
peace-keeperyes maybe my kernel is wrong?10:24
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ChocoCiduh10:24
mneptonArafangion: not in the least. i see drastic changes in all sorts of things between 386 and 686smp10:24
ChocoCidhow much swap did you set for linux?10:24
holycowpeace-keeper, windows don't paint slowly, you don't have proper drivers installed then10:24
josh_Hello, does anybody here have any experience with ifolder?10:24
peace-keeperis "2.6.15-27-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT" right for athlon 500 ?10:24
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mneptonpeace-keeper: looks good10:24
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mtymobilehi10:24
Arafangionpeace-keeper: Open a console, run top, hit 'M', sorting tasks by memory useage, and show us the output.10:24
holycowpeace-keeper, if your system crashes, you screwed something  up big time.  it litterally doesn't happen unless you do something dumb10:24
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peace-keeperit sometimes crashes when doing multimedia stuff like playing movies, listening to internet radio..10:25
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ChocoCidno, windows does that, linux doesn't10:25
EspenBeTry again: Why are the net-services in /etc/inet.d listening to tcp6?  I have to use v4 in a few cases.  How can I do that?10:25
holycowpeace-keeper, what crashes?10:25
holycowthe whole system?10:25
mickrealpeace-keeper: could be your hardware for the video stuff10:25
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holycowor just the app?10:25
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mtymobileehi pals is there a way to run an init.d script at device activation with udev????10:25
peace-keeperwhole system freezes, can't even switch to console10:25
mickrealmaybe video drivers??10:26
holycowpeace-keeper, your drivers are crashing10:26
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holycowplease configure drivers properly10:26
ChocoCidyeah it's a video card issue10:26
peace-keeperi installed some "legacy" video drivers according to some ubuntu FAQ10:26
Arafangionpeace-keeper: Which drivers are you using?10:26
peace-keepernvidia10:26
ChocoCidwhy would you install legacy video drivers...10:26
holycowpeace-keeper, so you screwed up your config and you blame the system?10:26
holycownice10:26
peace-keeperfu, i didnt screw up anything10:26
ChocoCiduh, yeah, legacy nvidia drivers instead of current ones?10:26
ChocoCidno, that's wholly your fault, not the system's fault10:27
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peace-keeperi was told HERE in this channel to install legacy nvidia drivers for an older card10:27
holycowpeace-keeper, it is totally yoru responsibility to know how to configure the system10:27
holycowsorry10:27
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mneptonguys, chill10:27
Arafangionpeace-keeper: Just install the latest proprietary NVidia drivers, and ignore the 'nv' drivers.10:27
ChocoCidso someone misinformed you? blarg :(10:27
mtymobileno one knows?10:27
holycowpeace-keeper, i'm going to take a poitn from mnepton and appologize10:27
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mneptonpeace-keeper: you have an nVidia card?10:27
mickrealpeace-keeper - you did say earlier you spent a lot of time on ubuntum you should know what you're doing then10:27
holycowpeace-keeper, i'm sorry i don't mean to be mean or attack you :)10:27
peace-keeperyeah an older nvidia card10:27
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Arafangionpeace-keeper: nvidia is widely regarded as being the best of the closed drivers.10:28
mneptonpeace-keeper: which?10:28
Cartasmickreal: What was the command again, please?10:28
holycowpeace-keeper, it is still a video card related issue10:28
Cartassudo apt-get install automatix?10:28
mneptonpeace-keeper: when i hear "old" i think "riva tnt" :)10:28
peace-keeperyeah :D10:28
holycowguys, has nvidia dropped support for old video cards?10:28
peace-keeperelsa erazor 2, with nvidia riva tnt10:28
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mtymobileHEY!10:28
Arafangionmnepton: I had a riva tnt :)10:28
holycowpeace-keeper, what kind of vid card?10:28
siimoi want this in ubuntu! :P http://www.informit.com/content/images/chap3_0672328933/elementLinks/03fig22.jpg10:28
peace-keeperactually riva tnt210:28
peace-keeperwhere i get the right drivers for that?10:29
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Arafangionpeace-keeper: Install the nvidia drivers.10:29
mickrealCartas i pmd you10:29
CartasYou did?10:29
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holycowsiimo, oh god10:29
holycowsiimo, just use vista10:29
holycowi hope that NEVER shows up in gnome10:29
holycowheh10:29
mickrealyou get it??10:29
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AlexCHey10:29
ChocoCidoh how ugly10:29
siimoi think its pretty useful10:30
ChocoCidit actually seems logical enough10:30
ChocoCidbut still ugly10:30
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Arafangionsiimo: Damn, why would you want that?10:30
holycownot to mention confusing and totally not usefull10:30
AlexCCan someone help me Install Maya 8 on Ubuntu please? It's all RPM packages10:30
peace-keeperi installed nvidia-glx-legacy.... package says it supports riva tnt210:30
ChocoCidit's not useful because of multiple files10:30
CartasNope, Mickreal.  Could you resend, please? :P10:30
ChocoCidlike, nobody has a file JUST for powerpoints10:30
siimoso i know exactly what the files are without going into the folder10:30
peace-keeperbut still everything much slower than on win xp (hope noone feels insulted now)10:30
ChocoCidit's mixed in with documents10:30
mickrealresent, did you recieve?10:30
ChocoCidthat's just ugly and i'm sure that's ridiculously slow10:30
holycowsiimo, if you like that kinda deal cool10:31
ArafangionChocoCid: Actually, I'm sure you can make it fairly fast.10:31
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siimoChocoCid: you dont understand,, this isnt one folder.. it shows them like this by grouping like files together10:31
holycowas for me i'm glad we are switching toubuntu, i never wanna see that, ever10:31
mneptonpeace-keeper: try removing that package and see what happens. the vesa driver may actually provide a better experience than that more deprecated and antique nv driver10:31
holycowhehe :)10:31
ChocoCiduh10:31
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Arafangionsiimo: Why not... double-click the damn folder and look at all the files?10:31
ChocoCidso it doesn't let you put what you want where you want?10:31
CartasMickreal:  Can you speak at all in that PM I just opened with you?10:31
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ChocoCidso you save a ppt it automatically gets moved into the powerpoint folder?10:31
mickrealas far as i know10:31
ChocoCidugh10:31
CartasTry it an see?10:31
ChocoCidthat's fairly awful imo :(10:32
Cartasand*10:32
peace-keeperlol mnepton ok i try :D although i cant imagine it will become better10:32
ChocoCidand, Arafangion, i can't make it go faster10:32
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ChocoCidwindows isn't open source remember?10:32
mneptonpeace-keeper: can it get worse? ;)10:32
mickrealCartas, i have been trying, just take a look at this link http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation#Installing_with_Apt10:32
ArafangionChocoCid: Haha :)10:32
siimoChocoCid: of course it does but this is a easy interface to your files .. appearently microsoft is trying to get rid of the Tree browsing file system model10:32
holycowpeace-keeper, trust me when i say, all 3 problems you mentioned are system admins fault and can be fixed10:32
josh_what programs do you guys recommend for bluetooth under gnome? Things like obex and other protocols. What should I use?10:32
CartasThanks old chap.10:32
holycowpeace-keeper, :) primise10:32
CartasI am PMing you.10:32
mickrealnp10:32
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CartasBut you are not sending me anything :o10:32
ArafangionChocoCid: It would be trivial for MS to make that quite quick, actually.10:32
ChocoCidsiimo : it's still a tree, it's just the equivalent of a family tree in alabama now10:32
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peace-keeperholycow: that doesnt help me if i cant fix them without spending days on learning about stupid conf files10:33
ArafangionChocoCid: Especially given that they both write windows and office.10:33
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mickrealCartas, i have been trying, just take a look at this link http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation#Installing_with_Apt10:33
peace-keeperi dont wanna be a system admin, i wanted to simply install and use an OS10:33
siimoi dont know what you mean im not from america10:33
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holycowpeace-keeper, ah, well because you don't know doesn't make your false assertions true10:33
CartasI already have, Mickreal!10:33
ChocoCidoh, sorry10:33
mickreal:)10:33
holycowit just makes them true relative your own abilities10:33
Cartas:D10:33
ChocoCidalabama is frequently the butt of incest jokes10:33
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ArafangionChocoCid: THat folder could have a thumbnails directory, which is updated when files are modified.10:33
peace-keeperwhat false assertions ?10:33
holycowits like me blaming ms for me not knowing how to install drivers on their os10:33
josh_Hey smeggy, noticed you're from Tassie. Where abouts?10:34
ChocoCidpeace-keeper : just because you installed the wrong driver doesn't mean linux is a problem10:34
ArafangionChocoCid: And the first X images of which are shown in that "folder".10:34
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mickrealCartas - it should sort you out with automatix, then using that you can install wine and other cool stuff10:34
ChocoCidArafangion : still ugly :[10:34
ArafangionChocoCid: Indeed.10:34
CartasHm, Mickreal:  It doesn't work.10:34
holycowpeace-keeper, there are LEGITIMATE complaints about linux ... lots of them10:34
mickrealthe link?10:34
CartasAh10:34
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tonyyarusso!automatix10:34
holycowno one really hides them but they tend to be of technical nature10:34
ubotuautomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.10:34
thatGuy_man there's a lot of chat going on in here10:34
ChocoCidyeah, "linux is slow" is not a valid one at all10:34
CartasThat link needs updating.10:34
thatGuy_shocked to see it10:34
CartasIt's automatix2, it seems.10:34
thatGuy_i need help with gnome (anyone that can help)10:34
siimois this kind of thing coming into gnome? http://www.informit.com/content/images/chap3_0672328933/elementLinks/03fig15.jpg  it seems pretty cool i hope this does if not that folder thing10:35
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tonyyarusso(Often will break things!  You've been warned.)10:35
josh_whats the problem thatGuy_ ?10:35
peace-keeperi said it's slow on MY MACHINE, and thats no false assertion... and i dont gave a shit for what reason it is slow10:35
siimo(taskbar preview like tab preview in web browser)10:35
holycowto anyone considering automatix, please never use that10:35
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thatGuy_gnome-panel won't start at all at this point10:35
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ChocoCidpeace-keeper: you can MAKE it faster10:35
thatGuy_this happened after doing installations using autonamix10:35
holycowthat is a terrible piece of software, it bypasses the package manager totally10:35
ChocoCidyou installed the wrong driver, of course it's going slow10:35
CartasMickreal:  Do you happen to know how I can completely remove my previous wine installation?10:35
Arafangionpeace-keeper: Install the latest damn nvidia driver.10:35
josh_open up a terminal and try: sudo killall gnome-panel10:35
CartasDo I just delete the .wine file?10:35
thatGuy_i have reason to believe autonamix broke my ish10:35
ChocoCidno10:35
mickrealapt-get remove wine10:35
mneptonpeace-keeper: Windows kills baby bunnies. there, i said it. you may want to deny it. you may want to call me a bizarre, lying freak. but the inescapable fact is that *every copy of Windows XP results in the deaths of thousands of fuzzy baby bunnies*.10:36
mickrealperhaps10:36
ChocoCidCartas : sudo apt-get remove wine10:36
ArafangionChocoCid: ~/.wine is a directory.10:36
holycowpeace-keeper, well, we do care that you are blaming the os for something of your own fault10:36
CartasThanks old chaps!10:36
ArafangionChocoCid: And it contains the complete "pretend" C: for your windows "system".10:36
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holycowits hard to actually offer free support and listen to windows users complain about things they messed up10:36
peace-keeperWHY MY FAULT u idiot?10:36
ghostshadow189hi all , how can i combine 2 panel of knome to just 1 panel ?10:36
ChocoCidbecause you installed the *wrong driver*10:36
thatGuy_when i log into gnome, i get no panels anywhere.10:36
holycowbecause you misconfigured it #110:36
ChocoCidthat's obviously your fault, not the system's fault10:36
peace-keeperi installed the drivers i was told here in this channels, the drivers that SAY they support my card10:36
mickrealpeace-keeper - i thought you didn't insult people??????10:36
holycowsecondly you aren't taking responsibility for learning how to fix it #210:36
mneptoncan everyone stop blaming each other and can we please just think of the bunnies?10:36
ChocoCidsure, they support your card, but they're also out of date10:36
thatGuy_i dont get any error message... i dont even know how to reset or uninstall gnome to try to fix this10:36
josh_hey ghostshadow189, do you mean gnome panels?10:36
thatGuy_i've been using KDE for a week now10:36
siimo<3 gnome10:36
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siimo<3 xfce too10:37
Arafangionpeace-keeper: Why are you against installing up-to-date drivers?10:37
mickrealpeace_keeper - who would want to help you now10:37
ghostshadow189yes10:37
holycowthird and MOST IMPORTANTLY all the problems you mentioned are not problems.  configure it right and it works.  you screw it up you take responsibility for it10:37
peace-keeperbecause up to date drivers dont support my old card10:37
ChocoCidthe guy is LOOKING for a reason to blame the system10:37
ghostshadow189josh , yes10:37
ChocoCidhe WANTS linux to not work so he can bitch about it and retreat to his little hole in the sand where windows is this perfect world10:37
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mickrealpeace-keeper - i suggest trying windows 3.110:37
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peace-keeperfuck u all, i didnt screw up anything, the system was slow and unreliable from the start... and i dont wanna learn how to configure it10:37
Smeggyjosh_, hobart10:37
peace-keeperbe proud of your "abilities"10:37
ChocoCidit's people like that, that are the reason microsoft is the #1 os10:37
holycowpeace-keeper, then go use windows10:37
holycowwhy are you here?10:37
josh_ghostshadow189, have you tried clicking on a panel, creating a new one, and dragging it to the area of the screen you want? You can drag two to the same area10:37
mickrealpeace-keeper - you won't get anywhere with an attitude like that10:38
holycowyou don't want our help, go and spend hours on the phone with ms support10:38
Arafangionpeace-keeper: WHY DON'T YOU INSTALL THE LATEST DRIVERS? That's three times I've asked.10:38
tonyyarusso!language10:38
josh_Cool, I live in Launceston Smeggy ;)10:38
holycowwe're fine with that10:38
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:38
siimoChocoCid: nothing wrong with nice user interfaces dude10:38
peace-keeperArafangion: cause they dont support my old card10:38
Smeggyjosh_, cool :)10:38
ChocoCidubuntu has a perfectly fine user interface10:38
AlexCCan someone help me Install Maya 8 on Ubuntu please? It's all RPM packages10:38
siimonot all linux users are uber geeks that stare at terminals10:38
ghostshadow189josh , i drag 1 panel , but it cant combine with other10:38
holycowsiimo, using linux via gnome is terribly easy10:38
Arafangionpeace-keeper: I'm sure they do.10:38
reveriezloc, what's that? I can't see past the cathodes10:38
BHSPitLappyAlexC, package(s)? there are more than one?10:38
siimoholycow: yea i use gnome + xfce sometimes10:38
holycowsiimo, i have a few soccer moms happily installing software on it and managing printers and things like that10:39
ChocoCidi think he means all the options are RPMs10:39
thatGuy_guys... anyone know how to fix gnome if it appears to be completely broken10:39
josh_ghostshadow189: ah ok, to make it one panel just right click on one of them and go to properties. Then change the size to as big as you want10:39
holycowsiimo, cool10:39
thatGuy_is it even uninsteallable?10:39
AlexCBHSPitLappy, yes - 3 of them. One is the actual program and 2 are License Servers/Programs10:39
peace-keeperthe reason microsoft is #1 is that windows is better as a desktop os10:39
ghostshadow189josh : oh , i'll try10:39
BHSPitLappyAlexC, "sudo alien -d nameofrpm.rpm"10:39
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holycowthatGuy_, depends on what you mean by broken ... describe the problem and we will try to fix it10:39
AlexCpeace-keeper, please don't be a troll =)10:39
ChocoCidyeah, it's uninstallable, you can do sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop10:39
Arafangionpeace-keeper: Incorrect.10:39
reveriethatGuy_, delete your gnome configs10:39
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BHSPitLappyAlexC, then you can double click the new ones10:39
holycowpeace-keeper, why are you here then?10:39
ChocoCidmight be able to go sudo apt-get restore or something like that10:39
AlexCBHSPitLappy, cool ok - I'll try that now10:39
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thatGuy_whwen i log in, i get no panels at all10:39
holycowpeace-keeper,  you don't want to use linux, you don't want to learn how to maintain it, why are  you here?10:39
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BHSPitLappyAlexC, I dunno if you already have alien installed though10:40
mickrealpeace-keeper - the reason why microsoft is #1 is because of venture capitcal, mass marketing and large amounts of money that the open source community doesn't have10:40
thatGuy_i've tried to run gnome-panel, and nothing10:40
mickrealthink before you speak10:40
frogzoothatGuy_: 1st, create a new user with 'adduser' & see if gnome works for it10:40
holycowgo and use windows, you will be happy we will be happy, its all good10:40
AlexCBHSPitLappy, don't think so - I'll install it now10:40
thatGuy_it happened to all my users at the same time10:40
peace-keeperokay i shut up, dont wanna waste your time, bye10:40
ChocoCid<ChocoCid> the guy is LOOKING for a reason to blame linux<ChocoCid> he WANTS linux to not work so he can ***** about it and retreat to his little hole in the sand where windows is this perfect world10:40
ChocoCid<ChocoCid> it's people like that, that are the reason microsoft is the #1 os10:40
thatGuy_nope.  does10:40
thatGuy_doesn't*10:40
fyrestrtrAlexC: are you sure there are no debs for it?10:40
reveriethatGuy_, prolly an error in one of the gnome configs10:40
Arafangionpeace-keeper: The reason why MS is #1 is because it's installed by default on every single system, due to various nefarious monopolistic practices that has brought them to court several times.10:40
AlexCfyrestrtr, absolutely10:40
ChocoCidhe WANTS to pay through the nose for a worse system10:40
holycowChocoCid, i agree with you 100%10:40
AlexCfyrestrtr, Autodesk, well Alias - only did RPMs for it10:40
thatGuy_lol.. there's like a million of those right?10:40
SeveasChocoCid, peace-keeper Arafangion: take of-topic discussions elsewhere10:40
siimoso what do you use ChocoCid? gnome or kde10:40
josh_thatGuy_, have you tried restarting? You can restart GDM/Xserver by doing Alt+Ctrl+Backspace10:40
thatGuy_spread  out all across the universe10:40
ChocoCidhe's TROLLING THIS CHANNEL10:40
thatGuy_yup10:40
reveriethatGuy_, yeah.. i had this before a few times so i ended up just deleting .g* lol10:40
holycowChocoCid, but once they have decided they don't like it us hammering them wont help10:40
thatGuy_its been broke for some weeks now10:40
ghostshadow189josh : it cant , i change 1 panel to 50 , and i drag other panel to this panel but they cant be combine10:41
reveriedon't do it unless you're comfortable doing so :)10:41
holycowlets nicely encourage them to go back to windows10:41
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ChocoCidsure, holger , but that doesn't mean they should troll the channel10:41
ChocoCid*holycow10:41
reveriethatGuy_, can you create another user and login with that?10:41
ChocoCidsiimo : i use gnome, don't much care for the look of kde10:41
mickrealit got rid of him though10:41
holycowChocoCid, i'm convinced that by my own experience that anyone that doesn't like linux is irrelevant, it really is good enough and easy enough touse already10:41
reveriethatGuy_, if that works then its probably a config error10:41
SeveasChocoCid, holycow: stop it.10:41
thatGuy_alright.  i'll try that10:41
BHSPitLappythis is why I hate this channel10:41
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ChocoCidthe people who don't like linux are going in PLANNING to dislike it10:41
thatGuy_otherwise?10:41
siimowhy am i trolling? i only talked about a couple of user interface ideas from vista10:41
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holycowsiimo, i wasnt talking about you :)10:42
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peace-keepersiimo: you get hated fast in here if you say anything good about windows :)10:42
josh_ghostshadow189: You can't have a panel inside a panel. There are two alternatives. 1) stacking the two panels, or 2) dragging into the bigger panel the applets you want10:42
ChocoCidi didn't say you were trolling ,siimo, peace-keeper  is10:42
holycowi was talking about talking about peace-keeper10:42
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holycowpeace-keeper, not true, you get told the true technical answer10:42
peace-keeperi'm not the one who started insulting10:42
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mickrealhahaha he's back10:42
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AlexCpeace-keeper, stop trolling, and grow up10:42
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fyrestrtrAlexC: you could use alient (if it hasn't been suggested already)10:42
mickrealomg go buy some microsoft shares peace-keeper10:43
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holycowSeveas, wtf10:43
AlexCfyrestrtr, yep - someone said that before, just copying the files to my hard drive now so I can alien them10:43
holycowi'm helping him realize his destiny is #windows10:43
holycowin a very polite way10:43
holycowhow about bouncing trolls?10:43
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mickreallol @ holycow10:43
AlexCSeveas, why kick holycow when peace-keeper is trolling?10:43
Seveaspeople, this was the last warning. If you keep continuing disrupting the channel I will ban10:43
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fyrestrtrtake it to #ubuntu-offtopic if you must, and even there, I suspect you'll be kicked :)10:44
ChocoCidshould ban the blatant troll, not those who were actually offering solutions to his supposed problem when he outright rejects any form of help ;[10:44
holycowSeveas, ban away bro i'm not impressed by you being an op.  i said nothing rude and everything was withing channel rules which i agree with.10:44
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holycowSeveas, why don't you ban trolls instead ?10:44
josh_peace-keeper: voicing your opinion is a fair event. However this chat room is for support on Linux. If you wish to discuss your thoughts with somebody, start a private chat, send them an email, but do not annoy them or spam them. Please take this conversation somewhere else10:44
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AlexChaha I just got a PM from peace-keeper saying "i'm not trolling you asshole" awww bless him10:44
AlexCi'm doing alien now fyrestrtr10:44
Seveasholycow, simply because I just arrived and didn't see bad things from him yet10:44
SeveasAs you see he's banned now10:45
ChocoCidso you start kicking before you see the whole story? nice =\10:45
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holycowSeveas, ah allright all cool10:45
Seveasbut in the futire: don't pay attention to trolls10:45
AlexCgood plan Seveas10:45
OXIjhow to change number of viewports in beryl?10:45
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fyrestrtrOXIj: ask in #beryl10:45
ChocoCidrightclick the viewport icons in the corner, hit preferences10:45
ChocoCidit's the same as in metacity/gnome10:45
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ChocoCidor whatever kde uses10:45
valehruis there a flickr uploader for gnome?10:45
ChocoCid(i'd assume)10:45
Jesse1984can some1 plz tell me how long the average ubuntu 6.06 alternate install should take?10:45
mneptonChocoCid: you were told to stop. you didn't. how is that better than the troll? (and dude, this is rhetorical)10:46
SeveasJesse1984, 30-40 minutes10:46
fyrestrtrJesse1984: no more than 30 minutes, if that.10:46
josh_OXIj: not sure if you can change it (if you mean desktops/cube sides)10:46
holycowJesse1984, for me about 20 minutes or so10:46
bioticproHow can I mount dvd.iso file on HD, so it can be played or ripped? (hopefully an easy non cli method)10:46
ChocoCidbecause, mnepton , what i'm talking about is a more general statement10:46
Jesse1984thanx10:46
holycowdepends on the hard drive and cdrom speed mostly10:46
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josh_Jesse1984: Is your installation hanging?10:46
ChocoCidplenty of people out there will try linux with the PLAN to hate it10:46
siimomy current screenshot: http://members.lycos.co.uk/siimo2005/screenshots/screenshot-20061008.jpg   :P10:46
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OXIjjosh_, yes. i mean that10:46
ChocoCidthey WANT it to not work so they have an excuse to go back to their comfortable little hole in the sand that they can bury their head in like an ostrich10:46
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josh_OXIj: What stage of the install are you at?10:47
mneptonJesse1984: it rather depends on the speed of your 'net connection (if you have one while installing)10:47
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Alexushello! I'm trying set adsl connection and have already installed the driver (ADLS indicator is ON). But I can't connect to Internet. My provider uses PPPoE. Here is the log after " sudo pppd call ueagle-atm": Using interface ppp0; Connect: ppp0 <--> 0.51; LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests; Connection terminated; Modem hangup. What is wrong?10:47
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OXIjjosh_, working )10:47
AlexCfyrestrtr, hum does it normaly take this long to Alien a 125MB file?10:47
fyrestrtrChocoCid: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic and keep this space clean for support requests.10:47
ChocoCidthey want to go "i tried to use it but i would have had to edit configuration files just to get my system to work" and that sort of bs makes other people not want to try linux10:47
ChocoCidthis relates directly to bug #1 and you know it10:47
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fyrestrtrAlexC: wouldn't know, but I suspect it does, since it has to create a deb and find deps, etc. etc.10:47
Jesse1984josh: yeh its taking ages, but im hoping it will work this time, i have used fdisk to format the mbr and the hdd i was trying to install on previously.. so fingers crossed!10:48
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tonyyarussoChocoCid: That may be, and if so, it would be just the sort of topic for #ubuntu-offtopic, since it is Linux-related, but not support.  Want to talk about it there?10:48
siimoChocoCid: well i hated it too when i first tried it 3 yrs ago.. mostly because i was on dialup and my modem could only connect at 24kbps  and a few other things i was used to in windows back then!  but now i use it exclusively at home... its takes time to get used to linux10:48
AlexCfyrestrtr, true true - it came up with this to Warning: Skipping conversion of scripts in package Maya8_0: postinst postrm preinst prerm10:48
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josh_OXIj: Is your harddrive light flashing, or is there any sign of activity on the computer10:48
eekihi10:48
AlexCthen fyrestrtr Warning: Use the --scripts parameter to include the scripts.10:48
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AlexCand is currently "stuck" there,10:48
eekiwat the hell10:48
eekiu are doing10:48
holycowsiimo, it takes time to get used to any new os interface10:48
mikeymike-linuxklos, mztriz is amazing isn't she?10:48
josh_OXIj: sorry, wrong person10:48
fyrestrtrAlexC: stuck like, no hard disk activity?10:48
eekidoes anyone play runescape10:49
klosjep10:49
klosgreat work10:49
klosthx10:49
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AlexCfyrestrtr, honestly no idea - I kinda blew up my Hard Drive Activity LED hehe10:49
holycowsiimo, most users have 15 years of windows training, you don't just throw that away. putting a windows user on osx is not easy either10:49
josh_Jesse1984: Any activity on the computer? like lights?10:49
AlexCand there so quiet you can't hear them doing anything normally10:49
Arafangioneeki: Highly likely that someone, somewhere runs it.10:49
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ompaul!offtopic10:49
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!10:49
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fyrestrtrAlexC: rofl, okay give it a few more minutes, check top to see if its still running.10:49
yemudoes anyone knows how to upgrade ltsp to 4.2? i followed instrustions on ltsp.org, but still the old version boots10:49
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yemu?10:49
OXIjjosh_, no mind. all works fine. I just need 6 desktops. beryl can give my up to 12 but I cant find where this option is..10:49
siimoholycow: true but its a lot easier now.. with dapper etc is much user friendly compared to what i used back then.. i think i was on redhat 9 which was not that bad but after i used mandrake for a month i decided to give up linux totally but i came back10:50
mikeymike-linuxdoes anyone know if you can rotate the desktop in ubuntu 270 degrees?10:50
ompaul!timetable > yemu10:50
AlexCfyrestrtr, check top? how do you mean?10:50
fyrestrtrAlexC: from another console, type 'top' and see if the process is still running10:50
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fyrestrtrAlexC: or use the gnome-system-monitor10:50
josh_OXij: OK, I don't remember seeing such an option. But I do remember seeing a demo with more desktops. It might have been taken out? Or maybe it only works when you don't use the cube (use the sliding desktops instead maybe?)10:50
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AlexCfyrestrtr, theres one that is dpkg-deb but I see no alien10:51
fyrestrtrAlexC: that's probably it.10:51
AlexCthought as much10:51
OXIjjosh_, snx. I already found it10:51
josh_Jesse1984: does your computer appear to doing any activity? Eg: hdd light flashing?10:51
thatGuy_ I'm THIS lucky I got back to this user10:51
thatGuy_<thatGuy_> you log in, then you can't even log out!10:51
thatGuy_<thatGuy_> no.  gnome did not work10:51
yemuompaul: does it mean i can't upgrade manually?10:51
fyrestrtrjosh_: OXIj please take it to #beryl10:51
mztrizdoes anyone understand this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27343810:51
mztriz?10:51
josh_OXIj: Where is it10:51
josh_sorry10:51
ompaulmikeymike-linux, there is a program (all be it exercise) where you use hands [1]  to initate rotate[2]  you might be able to do it with one of these xgl like things but that is #ubuntu-xgl10:51
thatGuy_is there a way to uninstall gnome and then install again?10:52
OXIjjosh_, General Options -> Horizontal Virtual Size10:52
mikeymike-linuxompaul, my display rotates 270 for long viewing10:52
josh_cheers10:52
thatGuy_the ish is broke and i'm looking for a way to fix it10:52
fyrestrtrthatGuy_: what is the problem?10:52
thatGuy_is as broke as broke gets10:52
AlexCthatGuy_, I'd like to say sudo apt-get remove gnome-desktop then sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop .... but Im not sure :P10:52
thatGuy_eeshh, it dont run whatsoever10:52
thatGuy_no panels at all10:52
thatGuy_no way to run anythign, no way to log out even10:52
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AlexCthatGuy_, type gnome-panels in terminal10:52
onorinHello, I have an HP nx7010 laptop, with ATI 9200 and default screen resolution is 1600 x 1050. When I try to use fglrx through Xor.conf, after rebooting I got a black screen instead of gnome. What can I do ?10:52
AlexCnono, gnome-panel10:52
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thatGuy_naw, that didnt run it either10:53
ompaulyemu, no, what it means is don't upgrade unless you really need it, if you need it you should have a look at the source, you should remove the existing using "sudo apt-get remove --purge program-name-here" then use10:53
AlexCfyrestrtr, wayy it's done10:53
ompaul!checkinstall > yemu10:53
josh_thatGuy_: have you tried restarting yet? (either whole computer or just X session)10:53
thatGuy_yess10:53
fyrestrtronorin: how did you install it?10:53
josh_thatGuy_: does synaptic tell you that you have gnome-panels installed?10:53
onorinfyrestrtr, from Synaptic10:54
fyrestrtrAlexC: great, now try installing the debs that it generated.10:54
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thatGuy_i know it is cause it was working10:54
fyrestrtronorin: you followed the wiki?10:54
AlexusI'm trying set adsl connection and have already installed the driver (ADLS indicator is ON). But I can't connect to Internet. My provider uses PPPoE. Here is the log after " sudo pppd call ueagle-atm": Using interface ppp0; Connect: ppp0 <--> 0.51; LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests; Connection terminated; Modem hangup.10:54
AlexusCan anybody help me?10:54
thatGuy_i did soem upgrades via autonamix and it stopped working completing10:54
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holycowthatGuy_, ohhhhhhhh10:54
mztrizI'm trying to follow these instructions,10:54
mztrizhttp://www.teachucomputers.blogspot.com/10:54
holycowdude reinstall and NEVER EVER use automatix again10:54
holycowthat is what screwed up your system10:55
thatGuy_completly*10:55
mztrizcan someone help me with step 310:55
ghostshadow189hi all , how can i make panel bigger but icons in panel is still small like before10:55
onorinfyrestrtr, yes I did run it, throug sudo  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:55
holycowthatGuy_, don't even bother fixing it.  backupyour home dir and reinstall10:55
onorinfyrestrtr, I heard that this is because the resoultion is too high 1600 x 105010:55
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thatGuy_lol10:55
Alexuswhat can I do, where should I move?10:55
holycowand NEVER EVER use automatix again, its some of the worst software ever written10:55
thatGuy_that's really what it was starting to look like10:55
fyrestrtrAlexus: is your modem detected properly? I don't think its working correctly.10:55
Seveasholycow++10:55
Scorpmoonhow do I set up ubuntu to share the attached printer with other windows machines?10:55
josh_ghostshadow189: In gnome icons scale to the size of the panel. You can stack panels for a similar effect or try out KDE (Kubuntu) or try using the KDE panels in gnome10:56
onorinfyrestrtr,  afterwards I have added some modle lines to my Xorg.conf, that I read this from some post. But it didn't work.10:56
thatGuy_have no idea how it broke my gnome like that10:56
Arafangionholycow: I suggest you mention that you should backup  /etc, and /var as well.10:56
fyrestrtronorin: try using the binary driver from ati.com, if you have a laptop, that helps -- especially with powersaving and resume after suspend.10:56
onorinno matter what I do I can't make fglrx running10:56
holycowwhat Arafangion said10:56
Arafangionholycow: Then do the install, then copy all the apt archives back.10:56
hazexpholycow: bad experience? please share10:56
thatGuy_i ran it on my amd64 laptop and the ish is still fine10:56
Arafangionhazexp: _nobody_ recommends automatix here.10:56
onorinfyrestrtr, and not fglrx ?10:56
thatGuy_dude... i got soo much on here10:56
fyrestrtronorin: pastebin your xorg.conf and your Xorg.0.log file10:56
hazexplol Arafangion10:56
holycowhazexp, not me, just we get A LOT of automatix users come in here with hosed systems10:56
thatGuy_my web server... mysql... dns server10:56
thatGuy_lol10:56
onorinfyrestrtr, hangon10:57
hazexpI'm not saying I use it, nor do I intend to10:57
thatGuy_really hoping you can uninstal gnome adn brign it back10:57
holycowautomatix just bypasses the packagemanager first and secondly does a bunch of its own things so you get bizarro issues10:57
thatGuy_talkign perhaps days of work here10:57
hazexpbut, I admire the efforts to make Linux more user friendly10:57
ompaulthatGuy_, stop laughing out loud and start installing - lol is so IM this is IRC :-)10:57
fyrestrtrthatGuy_: what was the last thing you did before gnome stopped working?10:57
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holycowthatGuy_, no just forget everything.  stop, roll, reinstall.10:57
holycowseirously, automatix changed a whole ton of things on your system thatyou don't know about10:57
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holycowstart fresh clean and properly installed system10:58
ChocoCidautomatix is a nice idea with a poor implementation10:58
mztrizdoes anyone know how to do step 3 http://www.teachucomputers.blogspot.com/10:58
ChocoCidfrom what i understand "easyubuntu" does it better10:58
thatGuy_ompaul, i appreicate the help.  i been using irc for over a decade.  i know how to talk on here10:58
fyrestrtrChocoCid: from what I understand, the wiki does it best.10:58
hazexpeasyubuntu doesn't install applications outside of the package itself10:58
mztriz?? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27343810:58
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hazexpWhereas Automatix is supposed to10:59
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ubuntu_hello room10:59
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thatGuy_fyrestrtr, i think i had restarted after the ish with autonamix, and after that gnome-panel never ran again10:59
ubuntu_just checkin out this new os10:59
josh_mztriz: to partition your hard drive you need a program like gparted or qtparted10:59
fyrestrtrthatGuy_: oh ... oh ... dear.10:59
hazexpmztriz: Run GParted, if you don't have it yet, sudo apt-get install gparted10:59
fyrestrtrthatGuy_: backup your /home and reinstall the system.11:00
ubuntu_im runnin live11:00
josh_mztriz: there are also proprietary software programs out there like partition magic.11:00
hazexpubuntu_: Which OS/distro?11:00
onorinfyrestrtr, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25952/11:00
ubuntu_ubuntu11:00
thatGuy_soo sux11:00
thatGuy_its gonna take me a while to get my ish together11:00
mztrizhazexp, I am on the ubuntu live cd, and I did this http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8801/screenshotnm3.png11:00
ubuntu_cool11:01
fyrestrtrmztriz: what are you installing ubuntu on? A mac?11:01
onorinfyrestrtr,  when I make driver "fglrx" instead of "ati" I got black screen11:01
josh_thatGuy_, how much other stuff had you installed before you tried automatrix?11:01
ubuntu_pc11:01
thatGuy_shit.  this comp was just about set11:01
ChocoCidno, he's installing an illegal mac os x on a non-mac computer heh11:01
thatGuy_got soo much hard-to-install stuff to finally work11:01
mztrizhazexp the second part of step 3 tells me Create a new HFS+ partition that is 6 GB using a tool like Partition magic, QTparted, Gparted, etc.11:01
onorinjose, automatix11:01
ompaulthatGuy_, well at least you have a live CD you can begin again11:01
ChocoCidmztriz : go file-new partition after clicking on that part11:01
ChocoCidand if gparted can make hfs+, you can do it there11:02
mikeymike-linuxohhhhh hazexp whats up11:02
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fyrestrtrmztriz: can you answer my question?11:02
thatGuy_all the flash crap, dvd ripping, cd ripping... fially some good media players....11:02
josh_doesn't automatrix make a log of what it did and offer a script for removing it?11:02
onorinfyrestrtr, did you get the post ?11:02
hazexpmztriz: I'm not on Ubuntu atm, so I can't walk you through it11:02
Scorpmoonwhat's a good and comprehendible tutorial on how to setup ubuntu as a print server for windows machines?11:02
lukaswhat is needed for xmms to play wma-files?11:02
ghostshadow189hi all , how can i add text next to main menu , like start11:02
mikeymike-linuxlukas, AN ACT OF GOD11:02
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mikeymike-linux(BILL GATES)11:02
ompauljosh_, we gave up trying to help people with it - if they want to go to #automatix and say "Fix my comp please" they can11:02
mikeymike-linuxor perhaps he is satan11:03
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josh_ompaul: ok, sorry11:03
Seveasmikeymike-linux, ....11:03
mztrizfyrestrtr, it's a dell11:03
holycowjosh_, there is no point of worrying because it bypasses the packaging system first and does totally weird things ... who knows iif everything is properly logged under that circumstance11:03
mikeymike-linuxSeveas, :)11:03
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Alexus6825Modem is operational and I just want setup ADSL internet connection via PPPoE. What should I do?11:03
holycowlukas, w32codecs11:03
holycow!restricted11:03
fyrestrtrmztriz: why do you need a HFS+ partition on it?11:03
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:03
ChocoCid!restrictedformats11:03
ChocoCider, yeah11:04
ChocoCidbeat me to it by a second ;\11:04
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holycowcheck out that linkage for instalaltion instructions11:04
ghostshadow189hi all , how can i add text next to main menu , like start menu . for example : main menu image -> start11:04
fyrestrtrAlexus6825: try kppp11:04
mztrizchococid, so after i make the 6gb allocated space i make a new partition?11:04
holycowChocoCid, :)11:04
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Alexus6825what is kppp?11:04
ChocoCidafter you make the 6gb unallocated space, yes11:04
onorinfyrestrtr, ?11:04
ChocoCidif you allocate it, you've made the partition11:04
Alexus6825is it ppp utitlity in KDE?11:04
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fyrestrtrAlexus6825: sudo apt-get install kppp11:04
josh_well I'm getting tired and still have home work to do. I'm off guys, bye!11:04
fyrestrtronorin: follow the wiki guide to install the ati drivers from ati.com11:04
fyrestrtr!ati > onorin11:05
harrismHas anyone ever had this problem using Mupen64 (n64 emulator) -> error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file .... I tried to locate this file and it's in /usr/lib  .. I also have many sdl library files installed since I develop in sdl every now and then. I have the base package along with many addons such as ttf, gfx, image etc. Any ideas? :/11:05
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Alexus6825I use Gnome only, will kppp get installed there?11:05
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mztrizchococid so i right click on the space and try to put it into HSF+ ? (that doesn't work)11:05
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onorinfyrestrtr,  ok I got it but what about fglrx ?11:05
Seveas!find libSDL-1.2.so.011:05
ubotuPackage/file libsdl-1.2.so.0 does not exist in dapper11:05
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fyrestrtronorin: just follow the instructions and you'll end up with fglrx11:05
holycowAlexus, you can pretty much run any app from any de ... they just end up loading the needed libraries11:05
ompaulAlexus6825, you connect to the modem with an ethernetcard and you click on System Administration Networking activate the card and as long as your adsl modem is switched on you should have instructions from your provider on what to put into it, unless it came preconfigured11:05
Seveasharrism, you'll need to recompile that program against the correct libsdl11:05
harrismerick@wolf:~/Desktop/mupen64-0.5$ locate libSDL-1.2.so.011:05
harrism/usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.011:05
harrism/usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0.7.211:05
Seveasinteresting11:06
onorinfyrestrtr, ok thanks I'll check it out now11:06
harrismok, so I need to grab source and compile11:06
ompaulharrism, please use a pastebin for more than 2 lines paste.ubuntu.com11:06
holycowAlexus, gnome and kde are trying to standardize on the opendesktop applications menu so that when an app is installed it appears on both systems in the menu11:06
fyrestrtrharrism: try LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0 commandtostartMupen6411:06
krautmoin11:06
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harrismfrom LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.11:06
Arcad3hi11:07
Arcad3how to change  the splash screen?11:07
Alexus6825I have login/password of course, but I don't know where to use them11:07
fyrestrtrharrism: are you running xgl or binary drivers?11:07
mikeymike-linuxcould someone give me an exacmple on how to use spc11:07
mikeymike-linuxscp11:07
harrismnot running xgl, I have 64 bit architecture though but I am not sure if this is the reason. I'm running ubuntu6411:07
mztrizchococid gparted doesn't let me make the partition HFS+11:07
Alexus6825and I know that constants my provider use11:08
fyrestrtrmikeymike-linux: scp somefile user@domain2.com:~/myfiles11:08
mikeymike-linuxfyrestrtr, what if it is local11:08
tonyyarussoArcad3: The one on boot or when logging into Gnome?11:08
Arcad3yes11:08
SeraVitaecould a slow cpu (like really slow) actually limit the speed of download?11:08
mztrizunless i'm suppose to make a different partion ?11:08
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harrismbut compiling the source should work? I guess I could just do it that way11:08
Alexus6825when I run pppoeconf it says that he can't find router, why?11:08
mikeymike-linuxand what is 'somefile' is that the local manifestation?11:08
ChocoCidthen you'll need a different partition program, mztriz11:08
fyrestrtrmikeymike-linux: that example is local > remote. scp /path/to/some/local/file user@somehost.com:/path/on/other/host11:08
mztrizchococid http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27343811:08
tonyyarussoArcad3: ...that was an OR.11:08
mikeymike-linuxfyrestrtr, oh okay11:08
Arcad3OR=?11:09
Arcad3i'm from RO11:09
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fyrestrtrmikeymike-linux: of course, the other way is scp user@somehost.com:/path/to/file /path/on/local/system11:09
mikeymike-linuxthats what im trying to do11:09
mikeymike-linuxscp from remote to local11:09
mikeymike-linuxon lan11:09
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tonyyarussoArcad3: Is it the boot splash screen or the one when logging into Gnome that you want to change?11:10
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fyrestrtrmikeymike-linux: then you want the second example.11:10
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mikeymike-linuxthanks11:10
TrackilizerWhen i turn on my PC, ubuntu crahses while loading moudules or somthig like that11:10
hazexpSeraVitae: I doubt it, there are far more factors likely to influence the speed of your download than your CPU11:10
Arcad3the boot splash screen11:10
Trackilizerthat happens everytime i trun on my PC11:10
CiderJackmother love11:10
Trackilizerdo i have to re-install because of this?11:10
Alexus6825Why do pppoeconf can't set up my connection? what maybe the cause?11:11
holycowTrackilizer, you probably have problematic hardware ... but hard to know without looking at the system11:11
CiderJackInconclusive. Lacking data. No solutions found.11:11
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killazhello ubuntu11:11
killazI hope you can help my by pointing me into the right direction...11:12
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Trackilizerholycow, so i would have to buy new hardware?11:12
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Alexus6825so...11:12
killazIm using mplayer.... its like this I get a CRC check failure everytime I want to watch a .ISO file...11:12
killazthe quality and everything of the ISO is ok... but the CRC check failure makes the movie skip...11:12
holycowTrackilizer, well you would need to perform testing to find out what its hanging on11:12
fyrestrtrkillaz: sounds like a bad download.11:12
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holycowTrackilizer, do you know where exactly it stops?11:12
killazfyrestrtr, CRC means bad dowload?11:13
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tonyyarusso!usplash11:13
ubotuusplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto11:13
killazfyrestrtr, or bad file?11:13
tonyyarussoArcad3: ^^11:13
Trackilizeryes! it's when it says, loading modules or something of that nature11:13
fyrestrtrkillaz: generally, yeah.11:13
killazfyrestrtr, :(11:13
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Trackilizermy PC keeps on running, but the screen goes blank and nothing happens after that.11:13
killazfyrestrtr, damn a friend of mine gave me this ISO....11:13
onorinfyrestrtr, in that howto there are two guides, one is to use fglrx, which is appereantly now working. The other one is "Using the drivers from ati.com" . So should I proceed with the latter ?11:13
Alit seems pretty difficult to get any help here11:13
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Arcad3thanks11:14
fyrestrtronorin: yes, you want the 'use drivers from ati.com'11:14
fyrestrtrAl: plenty of satisfied customers :)11:14
holycowTrackilizer, well generally if it it stops during bootup you should be able to see the line it stops at11:14
fyrestrtrAl: it all depends on how you ask the question.11:14
mztrizcan someone help me with this tutorial http://www.teachucomputers.blogspot.com/11:14
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Alhow should I ask?11:14
fyrestrtrTrackilizer: disable the boot splash to see the kernel messages.11:14
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Trackilizerholycow, yes its the modules part it stops at11:14
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Trackilizerand how does one stop the boot splash?11:15
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Almy internet doesn't work in Linux... And I don't how to set it up11:15
tonyyarussoAl: Just type your question and wait.  If nobody answers, it likely means nobody knows.  Ask again in 15 minutes or so.11:15
AlexChum - fyrestrtr I don't think Maya installed correctly11:15
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holycowoh hit ctrl/alt/f111:15
holycowor f211:15
Milleany way to reinstall programs installed with easyubuntu?11:15
ghostshadow189hi all , to download a theme for gnome , should i download GTK2.x or Metacity ?11:15
holycowi think the detailed system init messages are there11:15
Arcad3GTK211:15
AlexCfyrestrtr, in Synaptic it says it's installed - but if I do a serach for Maya on the filesystem I get nothing, if I type "maya" in terminal it says command not found aswell11:15
tonyyarussoAl: It would help the right people to help you to know what kind of internet connection you have. (And have you succeeded in another OS with it?)11:15
Arcad3for me no  theme works11:16
fyrestrtrmztriz: we don't support pirated software or the means to install it.11:16
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Trackilizerholycow, so just do that and wait for the error message right?11:16
RedGhostunrar-free _always_ fails, why?11:16
fyrestrtrAlexC: maybe 'Maya' is not the command for it.11:16
AlHow can I setup my PPPoE if modem is already operational?11:16
holycow*nod* yeah lets find out where it stops at, maybe it will give us a clue11:16
tonyyarusso!pppoe11:16
ubotuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE11:16
Trackilizerok, thanks alot, I'll try that.... be back in a bit11:16
AlexCfyrestrtr, yeah it is =\11:16
mztrizfyrestrtr, I don't mean osx i just want my hdd in HFS+11:17
AlexCit's weird11:17
askinghello... can you please suggest me the easiest way to make a copy of a video dvd? I'd like to preserve the menu structure/subtitles/audio while reencoding it so that it fits on a 4GB disc.... is there a tool that does all of that automatically? Thanks!11:17
thatGuy_anyone know if there's a gnome error log i can look at to try to fix it ?11:17
fyrestrtrAlexC: hrmm, dunno. I'd have to download it and install it here to help ya any further.11:17
Arcad3make an image of it11:17
fyrestrtrthatGuy_: ~/.xsession-errors11:17
tonyyarussoAl: See if that wiki page helps.11:17
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fyrestrtrasking: use any cd copying software, like k3b11:18
fyrestrtrmztriz: why?11:18
AlI'm reading it now, thanks11:18
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askingfyrestrtr, thx, I tried with gnomebaker and had no such option... so I felt like asking somebody before installing all kdelibs and k3b11:19
mztrizfyrestrtr, for FTP and SSH11:19
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fyrestrtrmztriz: you don't need HFS+ for that.11:20
SeraVitaeany suggestions for an ftp server? something with a gui for setting up would be awesome.11:20
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SeraVitaeor at least a gui configurator tool11:21
Arcad3use apache211:21
tonyyarusso!ftp11:21
ubotuFTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd11:21
Trackilizerholycow, i get stop the boot splash, it happes at the beginning of the load procces11:21
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Arcad3apt-get install apache211:21
Trackilizerit happens at the point where it says loading file systems11:21
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holycowTrackilizer, i've seen that once before but i cannot remember the fix11:22
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holycowTrackilizer, i'm going to stab at it with 'reinstall' and see what happens11:22
holycowTrackilizer, sounds like it cannot find the partition11:22
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Trackilizerok, I'll reinstall now.... be back later :)11:22
Milleany way to reinstall programs installed with easyubuntu? cause they are greyed out, and i'm not sure how to reinstall them manuallt (well that's why i'm using easbuntu)11:22
ubuntu__just here checkin out ubuntu os11:23
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Milleit's nice isnt it, ubuntu__ xD11:23
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ubuntu__so far11:23
Milleubuntu__ what have you  been running before?11:23
ubuntu__win 2000pro11:23
holycowubuntu__, you should be able to sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename from command line11:24
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mwright2I've just installed the read/write ntfs-3g and ntfs-fuse... just wandering how do I make the auto mounter (that mounts usb disks) use the ntfs3g or the ntfs-fuse driver instead of the default read only driver.11:24
ghostshadow189hi all , when i click to show desktop button it warn me : Your window manager does not support the show desktop button, or you are not running a window manager.  how can i fix this11:24
AlexCholycow, I think you ment Mille  ?11:24
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mwright2it works fine if I explicitly mount it in /etc/fstab but I'd like to mount it using the automounter11:24
eekihi11:24
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Millehm11:24
SeraVitaeis ssh installed with ubuntu by default?11:24
eekierrrrm11:24
eekierm11:25
ubuntu__im just runnin live off my cd rom right now11:25
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eekihey r u guys deaf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11:25
holycowoh yes i meant Mille sorry ubuntu_11:25
Milleholycow, but i dont evfen know the package name?11:25
mwright2eek? what's your question?11:25
eekierm11:25
holycowAlexC, danke :)11:25
mwright2I'm after help with automount d11:25
holycowMille,  apt cache search goodguess11:25
AlexC=)11:25
mwright2if anyone can tell me where the auto.fs files are ...11:25
gansinhohi! I would like to know how do I mount a memorystick from a camera ?11:25
eekidoes any one play computers11:25
holycowthat should give you a list from which you should be able to surmise what it probably is11:26
ubuntu__um yeah11:26
pcfanHii, After I installed ubuntu without making a boot partition, I made a one (50MB), and I don't know how to update fstab and copy the kernels... can you help ?11:26
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eekii can"t11:26
ubuntu__? --- can ubuntu take games??11:26
eekiyes11:26
ChocoCidubuntu plays games fine11:26
holycowgansinho, you need a memory card reader.  you just plug it into the  usb port, plag the card into it and yoru done11:26
mwright2eeki? you can't do that11:26
eekino who says11:26
Trackilizerholycowm i can't even re-install.... after booting from the dapper CD, the screen goes blank and nothing happens11:26
mwright2you need like 2-5 GB free to install ubuntu11:27
Milleholycow, but isnt' there any easy way to make easyubuntu think it runs for the first time?11:27
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ubuntu__games like doom 3?11:27
thatGuy_thanks guys.  I'll backup, then I'll try some of this uninstall gnome methods that I've googled. they may break ubuntu, so that's why I'm backuping up first11:27
mwright2or else you're pushing shit up a hill11:27
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ChocoCiddoom3 i think runs on wine, hold on11:27
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holycowMille, i'm not sure what that question means.11:27
eekimy can"t play runescape11:27
gansinhoholycow: but I don't have a memory card reader, I could not mount it via the camera?11:27
holycowyour trying to remove an application?11:27
yemuany ltsp experts here? i need help11:27
siouxwhat's mubuntu?11:27
holycowif so use apt to remove it11:27
AlexCsioux, Media Ubuntu11:27
Seveasyemu, #edubuntu is a better guess11:27
mwright2anyone here know abuot autofs11:27
holycowgansinho, it actually depends on the camera11:27
mwright2runescape doesn't work under firefox on windows does it?11:27
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ChocoCidhttp://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=288711:28
holycowgansinho, you should be able to just plug it in via usb and one of two things will happen11:28
eekidoes anyone know how to remove ubuntu11:28
mwright2so if it doesn't work on firefox on windows, it probably won't work on linux11:28
siouxalexc where can I get some info about it11:28
holycoweither it will be loaded as a block device and will appear as an icon on your desktop11:28
Milleholycow, i want easyubuntu act like if nothing was installed. like when i run it for the first time.11:28
gansinhoholycow: oh gosh... I can import the pics11:28
mwright2eeki you could use dd11:28
AlexCsioux, there was a thread in www.ubuntuforums.org in the Cafe11:28
holycowor it will use one of those camera protocls and gtkam will popup for you11:28
AlexCdo a serach for "Mubuntu"11:28
ubuntu__what format is this??11:28
eekiholycow, i want ot talk to u!!!!!11:28
holycowMille, #easyubuntu11:28
holycoweeki, uh oh11:28
holycowwhy?11:28
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holycow:)11:28
AlexChehe11:29
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AlexCha, what the11:29
Arcad3when the new Ubuntu is gona be released?11:29
mwright2can anyone help me with autofs11:29
AlexC26th October,11:29
AlexChopefully] 11:29
gansinhoholycow: but it does not automaticaly mount the memory stick like it does with an ipod for example11:29
Trackilizerholycow, not being able to boot into the LIVE cd mean something is really wring with my hardware right?11:29
holycowgansinho, yeah like i said .. most cameras these days use a proprietary camera image transfer protocol11:29
holycowthat means the card isnt viewed as as a block device so it doesn't mount like one ... i.e. lik eyour ipod11:30
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gansinhoholycow: damn, there's no way to "hack" it?11:30
ghostshadow189why i cant use show desktop button ?11:30
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holycowwhat it does is que gtkam to startup and download the images via that protocol11:30
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holycowTrackilizer, well probably but depends11:30
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holycowTrackilizer, what cpu/ram do you have?11:31
ubuntu__anyone from seattle wa???11:31
Jesse1984is it normal when installing ubuntu 6.06 with alternate cd for the partition manager to come up 3 times saying the same things while you keep selecting the same options you have already selected 2 times previously!??11:31
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Millenot much ppl alive in #easyubuntu :p11:31
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Trackilizerwell, it's a rather old system.... only 1.2GHZ and only 256MB of RAM11:31
Arcad3where can i fin info about the latest ubuntu?11:31
gansinhoghostshadow189: try to ctrl+alt+D (the letter, d) maybe the problem is just the button..11:31
holycowJesse1984, yes most of the time people forget to scroll all the way to the bottom and select 'finish'11:31
holycow>_>11:31
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holycow!edgy11:32
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule11:32
ghostshadow189gansinho : it works , but why the button didnt work11:32
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Jesse1984holycow: is the finish button not visible unless you scroll down to it?11:32
gansinhoghostshadow189: try to create a new one... I can't say why it does not work ... sorry =/11:33
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Arcad3!cedega11:33
ubotucedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega11:33
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rubenvis evolution horribly broken in edgy?11:33
holycowJesse1984, well its an option in one of the partition screens ... its kinda on the bottom an dyou need to arrow down to say finished ... i forget the exact terminiology so i'm winging it a bit11:33
holycowthat got me a few times11:33
rubenvas in: it crashes when I start the mailer component11:33
hazexpWhoever was looking for Doom 3, the native Linux port of it is available here: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/doom/11:33
ghostshadow189gansinho : u mean that remove and add another to panel ?11:33
mwright2can anyone help us with autofs11:33
holycowrubenv, here it seems okay so far11:33
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gansinhoghostshadow189: right click in a free area in the pannel>add to pannel and add a new one11:33
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rubenvholycow: darn11:33
rubenvthat's not good11:34
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gansinhoghostshadow189: yup, try that...11:34
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Jesse1984holycow: when it gets to that screen again for the FOURTH time (hehe) i will holla with what i see.. cheers11:34
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holycowJesse1984, sure11:35
ubuntu__im lost --- did we land yet??11:35
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ghostshadow189gansinho : it didnt work :(11:35
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gansinhoghostshadow189: I dunno a lot about programming, I can't help you, sorry, use the shortcut instead until you solve it11:36
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ghostshadow189anyway , thanx :D11:37
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gansinhoghostshadow189: nevermind =)11:37
aaron_hi11:37
onorinfyrestrtr,  used the drivers from saveas. It didn't work. I rebooted  and I got black screen again. Then I reverted the Xorg.conf. And booted11:37
aaron_ive just download two .jsp files... how do i install them11:37
aaron_one is the download and one is the isntall i think?11:37
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Cartas"nstall your kernel-source, and then get into menuconfig and sync its options with those given below"11:38
highnekoDouble clicking my titlebar shades it, and I want it to maximize. How's this done?11:38
CartasHow do I do that? :O11:38
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aaron_to put it another way, what is a .jsp file11:39
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SeraVitaesounds like something to do with java.11:39
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Arcad3WRNING do not use Windows in this time of the year beacause in a VIRUS STORM aproaching:)))11:40
Jesse1984holycow: ok.. i have this up: this in an overview of currently configured partitions and mount points. select a partition to modify its settings ect ect. Now the partitions are already set. ext3 primary swap logical. down the bottom are 2 options: undo changes to partitions and finish partitioning and write changes to disk. I have chosen the latter 3 times now and ended back at this screen everytime11:40
hazexpJavaScript Page IIRC11:40
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holycowJesse1984, did you setup your / ?11:40
Jesse1984holycow: yeh its set..11:40
Arcad3WARNING do not use Windows in this time of the year beacause in a VIRUS STORM aproaching:)))11:40
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gansinhoholycow: thanks for the help!11:41
holycowso you select write to disk and brings you back here?11:41
hazexpNo, sorry, it's Java Server Page, *not* Javascript Page as previously mentioned11:41
holycowgansinho, no problem11:41
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Trackilizerholycow, i just tried a knoppix livecd, and i still have the same problem, somewhere in the boot procces, the screen simply goes blank... and nothing happens after that11:41
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Trackilizercould it be my harddrive is dead?11:41
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Arcad3Trackilizer:unplug the source wait 2 min then plug it back11:42
holycowTrackilizer, ye it could also be bad ram.  just out of curiosity did you have another os on this system? did it ever work?11:42
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nox-HandHey11:42
Arcad3computers power source11:42
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Jesse1984holycow: it then goes to a confirmation screen, yes/no/goback and i chose yes then i end up back there! i dont get it11:42
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harrismdoes anyone know how to start vegastrike in linux? I just installed it but cannot find in anywhere11:42
holycowJesse1984, what are the partitions again?11:42
Trackilizerholycow, it's my old PC that used to have win98, but I've used it for ubuntu for  over a year now, i have this problem since yestery11:43
Trackilizerit just came out of the blue11:43
Ackeubu_is it possible to install dapper over an other ubuyntu distro without formating the drives?11:43
onorincan anyone help me with fglrx  ?11:43
holycowTrackilizer, ohhhhhhh, chances are the hd is dead11:43
Arcad3do that Trank..11:43
holycowTrackilizer, that makes sense.... its managed to read the hd up to that part then it gets no further response11:43
Arcad3it happend to me11:43
siouxmubuntu is a dream or reality!11:43
Trackilizercrap! oh well! i'll try another hardrive i have lyring around11:44
Trackilizerthanks alot guys11:44
holycowsioux, welcome :)11:44
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onorinCan anyone help me with fglrx  ?11:44
holycowTrackilizer, no problem hopefully it works11:44
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livingdaylighti got a serious problem: kernel panic. Unsuccessfully tried to install Mandriva which crashed and now i can't get back into Ubuntu. It loads up unti rootfilesystem but then hangs11:44
aaron_how do i change into a director using linux terminal11:44
Arcad3Mandriva sucks11:44
aaron_directory11:44
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Arcad3cd11:44
siouxholy thanks.. to where a real world or what? :-)11:44
aaron_doesn work?11:44
Arcad3cd directory11:44
onorinaaron_, cd dir_name11:44
Jesse1984holycow: ahh i have just gone through the process once more! so make sure.. i dont know exactly, like this i think: primary - ext3 - / (9.3gb)then: logical - swap (454mb [there abouts] ) On ide2 master (hde)11:44
livingdaylightArcad3: is that al lyou can say? :s11:45
aaron_ahhh11:45
holycowsioux, who needs the real world?11:45
holycowhehe11:45
aaron_forget capital letter at the start of dir name11:45
aaron_:)11:45
Arcad3EN is not my native language11:45
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onorinCan anyone help me with fglrx  ?11:45
onorindoh11:45
siouxholy the world!11:45
livingdaylightArcad3: some people say mandriva is great. I only wanted to test it. Now i can't get back into Ubuntu11:45
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holycowJesse1984, that looks right so its not like its borking because of an unworkable config11:45
Arcad3format the drive11:45
Arcad3reinstall11:45
cntb!fglrx > cntb11:45
siouxand pheraps google too!11:46
onorin!fglrx11:46
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:46
onorinno11:46
livingdaylightArcad3: talking to me?11:46
holycowJesse1984, you got me there dude, i really thought you werent able to select the that option11:46
Arcad3yes11:46
holycow:/ i'm sorry, not sure what to suggest11:46
onorinI can't run fglrx, All I get is black screen11:46
livingdaylightArcad3: reformat my hardrive and reinstall Ubuntu?11:46
nox-HandWhat tool should I use to connect to wireless networks+11:46
Arcad3yes11:46
onorinAnyone ?11:46
Jesse1984holycow: argh! i have no idea then.. this is hurting me.. why is it so hard!??11:47
livingdaylightArcad3: ohhhh.. Noooooooooooo - Mamma MIa.11:47
cntbwhy fglrx is a name for ATI ?11:47
livingdaylightArcad3: Geeezuz Christ!!! dont say that pleeeeeeeeeze!!!???11:47
holycowJesse1984, its a freak accident of some sort, i assure you its exceptionally rare.  infact i've NEVER heard of that11:47
holycow:/11:47
holycowlike 1 in a million kinda deal11:47
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livingdaylightArcad3: nononono...11:47
holycowJesse1984, wait are you using th elive cd11:48
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livingdaylightArcad3: there must be an alternative11:48
holycowor the alternate cd?11:48
Jesse1984holycow.. hmm maybe ill try live cd again.11:48
Arcad3i dont know the otheralternative11:48
Jesse1984alternative cd11:48
Arcad3i use that11:48
holycowJesse1984, perhaps yeah ... this is the first time i've heard of di failing11:48
livingdaylightArcad3: will i be able to save and back up my home directory?11:49
Arcad3u have imp files?11:49
holycowlivingdaylight, yeah thats the great thing about linux, the system doesn't say 'can't back up home dir because of a held file'11:49
livingdaylightArcad3: i cannot lose my home dir11:49
Jesse1984holycow: ok i have it up once more.. here is exactly the config of the partitions:11:50
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Arcad3i dont know madriva!11:50
livingdaylightholycow: holy Smoley .11:50
Arcad3i used it ..sucks11:50
Arcad3formated the hhd after11:50
onorinI can't run fglrx, All I get is black screen. Can some one help ?11:50
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highnekoIs it possible to change panel text to white in dapper, gnome?11:51
livingdaylightArcad3: i don't know what imp files are11:51
Arcad3important11:51
livingdaylightArcad3: did you try mandriva?11:51
Arcad3yes11:51
livingdaylightArcad3: they were saying how great it is. \5 on distrowatch11:51
Arcad3it sucks11:51
nox-Hand!tell nox-Hand about wireless11:51
onorinthe best distro is SimplyMEPIS11:51
livingdaylightArcad3: why? how exactly does it suck?11:51
livingdaylightArcad3: they say urpmi is better than apt-get11:52
Arcad3no packages database11:52
holycowlivingdaylight, for the entire life of that distro its never worked11:52
holycowever11:52
holycowthere is always something hosed in it11:52
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livingdaylightholycow: Ubuntu is and has been my primary os since 4 years11:53
Jesse1984ide2master (hdc) -10.1 GB Maxtor 31024h2 [new line]  #1 primary 9.7GB B F ext3    / [new line]  #5 logical 452.4MB   F swap    swap [new line]  ide2 slave (hdd) - 10.2 GB ST310014a [new line]  undo changes to partitions [new line]  finish partitioning and write changes to disk [new line]  go back11:53
holycowlivingdaylight, cool11:53
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livingdaylightholycow: i was only wanting to test mandriva's new release on my spare hardrive. Now i've paid the ultimate price :(11:53
Ackeubu_!dapper11:53
ubotudapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"11:53
Ackeubu_!installdapper11:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about installdapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:53
Ackeubu_!downgradetodapper!!!11:53
Ackeubu_!downgradetodapper11:54
holycowlivingdaylight, well it happens.  reinstall.  next time try vmware and install mandrive as a guest system there11:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about downgradetodapper!!! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:54
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about downgradetodapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:54
Ackeubu_!damn!!11:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about damn!! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:54
defcon8does anyone use a isl3886 chipset wifi card?11:54
holycowthat way you can toss it, back it up, reinstall it as you want11:54
Ackeubu_!dapper11:54
livingdaylightOh, Geeezus Christ - Pleeze help me. Mama Mia!!!11:54
ubotudapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"11:54
boink!etchy11:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about etchy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:54
Jesse1984holycow: heres the screen: ide2master (hdc) -10.1 GB Maxtor 31024h2 [new line]  #1 primary 9.7GB B F ext3    / [new line]  #5 logical 452.4MB   F swap    swap [new line]  ide2 slave (hdd) - 10.2 GB ST310014a [new line]  undo changes to partitions [new line]  finish partitioning and write changes to disk [new line]  go back11:55
livingdaylightholycow: i didn't want to reinstall Ubuntu until the release of Edgy and then in my own good time11:55
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mikeymike-linuxhow would i do this command if i already have the file extracted to /root/  i'm not quite sure how to do this...    "tar -jOxf /root/file.tar.bz2 file.img | dd of=/dev/hda2 bs=512 skip=63"11:55
holycowJesse1984, looks right again!  nice.  and when you say write changes?11:55
defcon8anyone?11:55
burgermannMy mouse doesn't work in Ubuntu 6.06 or 6.10. It works in 5.10 though.11:55
holycowlivingdaylight, well the thing is if you install dapper now again ...11:56
holycowyou can just dist upgrade to edgy11:56
highnekoDouble clicking my titlebar shades it, and I want it to maximize. How's this done?11:56
burgermannIt lags like hell11:56
holycowthere really is  no advantage to waiting11:56
Jesse1984holycow: when i say write changed i end up back where i started again11:56
burgermannIf I unplug it, and reinsert it, Ubuntu dies11:56
Jesse1984oh hang on! should i configure LVM ????11:56
variantanyone had 3d acceleration working with 3d rage graphics card?11:56
oskudehighneko, System -> Preferences -> Windows11:56
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holycowJesse1984, your blowing my mind ... *ummm*11:56
burgermannAnyone heard about somehting similiar?11:56
SeraVitaeum i just installed proftpd server. how can i find where it is heh11:57
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livingdaylightholycow: in the whole history of Ubuntu upgrading to the next release has never worked for me. Always need freshinstall for complete peace of mind11:57
holycowJesse1984, have you had another os installed on that hd ? just curious11:57
burgermannIt's a USB mouse and seems like every device I plug in, makes Ubuntu die11:57
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SeraVitaen/m found it11:57
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highnekooskude: Thanks you. :311:57
holycowlivingdaylight, there is some truth to that, i've had to fix a few things manually yes11:57
burgermannI've tried with acpi=off noapic nolapic. Nothing seems to work.11:58
holycowlivingdaylight, lets see if they get it right this time ... i think maybe 6  month turnaround time may be too short to really troubleshoot that stuff11:58
Jesse1984holycow: no it was a storage drive on my old pc.. but i have formatted it with fdisk anyway.. totally empty11:58
highnekoCannot start the preferences application for your window manager    Window manager "beryl" has not registered a configuration tool11:58
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holycowJesse1984, i'm completely not helping here at all11:58
ChocoCiduh, you need beryl-manager, i think11:58
holycowi'm sorry dude i thought i had an idea11:58
Jesse1984holycow: should i configure LVM ?11:58
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holycowJesse1984, no need to if you only have one hd11:59
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Jesse1984holycow: no i have 2 hd11:59
phanterhello there. I have files covred with question marks (?) on a cd. How can I find out what language I need to install to make it readable...11:59
frogzoophanter: file filename  maybe12:00
holycowJesse1984, well depends i've never needed to use lvm ... if you wanted to use the other drive too i would just mount it as /home my self12:00
Jesse1984holycow: and i just tried to configure LVM on the partitons for the hell of it.. it errored saying an error occured while writing the changes to the disks , the configuration of the logical volume manager is aborted.. [go back]  [continue] 12:01
phanterfrogzoo: I do not understand your hint .  .12:01
holycowJesse1984, maybe there is something weird going on with the hd?12:01
Arcad3what software for ubuntu is similat to MAcromedia Dreamwaver?12:01
Arcad3*similar12:01
holycowJesse1984, try installing it on the other just for kicks?12:01
holycowArcad3, quanta+12:02
Jesse1984holycow: thanks for all your help anywayz! i appreciate it.. i have to roll now.. i will try install on the other tomorrow.. cheers!12:02
holycowthats as close as it gets12:02
Arcad3thanks12:02
holycowJesse1984, later12:02
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oskudeArcad3, you could allso look at "nvu"12:02
phanterfrogzoo: oke I see, but that tells a lot but not the langauge12:02
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Arcad3will try that too12:04
frogzoophanter: language is irrelevant, it's the right unicode font installed you need12:04
SeraVitaedoes anyone here use proftpd?12:04
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onorinCan anyone guide me for fglrx ? All I get is black screen. Here's my log files http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25957/12:05
phanterfrogzoo: I understand, but file does not tell me this (we are talking about music files)12:05
gyhuhi. what programm (free) should i use to resize partiotion under windows xp to make free space for linux installation?12:05
Arcad3onorin fglrx is the video driver for ur Videocard?12:05
frogzoo!ati > onorin12:05
onorinfrogzoo, no how to is working for me12:06
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onorinArafangion, I only want to enable 3D indeed12:06
onorinArcad3,  I only want to enable 3D indeed12:06
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Arcad33d works for me with default nvidia-glx12:07
onorinArcad3, if I write "fglrx" into my xorg file . I got a black screen12:07
Arcad3u have ati?12:07
gradeshey all12:07
onorinati radean 9200 on my hp laptop12:07
gradesi need a little help plz12:07
onorinwith 1600 x 1050 resolution12:07
highnekoIs it possible to change panel text to white in dapper, gnome?12:08
Arcad3x doesn't suport the driver12:08
onorin?12:08
oskudeonorin, i think fglrx is only for radeon9250+12:08
Arcad3!display driver12:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about display driver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:08
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onorinoskude, I don't think so. it is written as 8500 +12:08
onorinoskude, I am just trying to enable Direct Rendering12:08
oskudeonorin, ok ... if "man fglrx" says so...12:09
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reverieHey guys12:10
reveriehas anyone with an award bios had this beep squence during a post12:10
onorinfrogzoo, when I follow that tutorail I got a blackscreen12:10
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reverie1 long 2 short, then 1 high tone then 1 low tone?12:10
bbrazilreverie: you're best off getting your hands on the manual12:10
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reveriebbrazil, heh12:10
bbrazilreverie: google the model number12:11
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gradesreverie it could be a host of things12:11
oskudeonorin, after that black screen, open /var/log/Xorg.0.log and look for [EE] 12:11
reverieaward bios's are pretty generic12:11
gradesram, vga card12:11
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onorinoskude12:12
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onorinoskude, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25957/ here all the log files12:12
gradesi need some help12:12
reverienot ram12:12
onorinI cant figure it out12:12
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bbrazilreverie: that's an odd sequence, you'll have to check the manual12:12
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B-Minushello12:12
Gradius9hi12:12
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B-Minusi just want ubuntu with kde, is it a good idea to just install kubuntu ?12:13
Gradius9yes12:13
B-Minusok12:13
gradesi want ubuntu to boot up!12:13
oskudeonorin, please just post one file per pastebin...12:13
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oskudeonorin, and are you using dapper ? did you install fglrx from ubuntu repos ?12:14
onorinoskude, that makes a lot files though. Ok I will proceed12:14
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oskudeonorin, i need only that one log file after "black screen"12:14
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SeraVitaeI just installed proftpd, it made an ftp user, i checked the configuration file which is default anonymous, and i can connect to the ftp but it keeps saying login incorrect12:15
SeraVitaeany ideas what to try?12:15
onorinoskude, I am using dapper. I insalled first from repos, then from seveas as official ati drivers12:15
v3l0ctonorin: the latest ATI drivers (8.29.6) support 9500+, any driver prior will support from 8500+12:15
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onorinoskude, both I got the same result12:15
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onorinv3l0ct, I installed 8.28, would it matter ?12:15
Ackeubu_!ati12:16
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:16
Gradius9Anyone here who has headless systems?12:16
Gradius9with dapper?12:16
v3l0ctonorin: as long as you have 8500+ is ok12:16
onorinoskude, Ialso some people said it is because the resolution is too high (as 1600 x 1050)12:16
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SeraVitaeGradius9 - im doing one now12:16
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ompaulGradius9, I do - not just dapper :)12:16
onorinv3l0ct, I have 9200 mobility, with 8.28 and I got a bluescreen12:16
onorinoskude, I am gonna post the log file12:17
ompaulGradius9, do you have a question12:17
ChocoCid!swap12:17
oskudeonorin, if your monitor supports that, should not be problem... but as i said /var/log/Xorg.0.log should have a line with [EE]  if theres an error12:17
ubotuswap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info12:17
v3l0ctonorin: is it a true ATI card?12:17
Gradius9SeraVitae, ompaul , Just did the latest sysupdate. and now vnc server wont start so I have not a connection over vnc12:17
SpCombbluescreen as in ncurses screen bit a blue background?12:17
v3l0ctonorin: this is on a laptop, ah12:17
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ompaulGradius9, have you ssh enabled on that box?12:17
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Gradius9SeraVitae, ompaul , but smb and ssh still works so I can do thing in ssh12:17
v3l0ctlet me look at the files12:18
Gradius9ompaul, yes12:18
SeraVitaegrades - do you use an external vnc12:18
SeraVitaeor 'remote desktop'12:18
onorinv3l0ct, yes it is a laptop12:18
onorinv3l0ct, all here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25957/12:18
Gradius9SeraVitae, using the built in vnc server in dapper12:18
gradesnope12:18
onorinv3l0ct, I am trying to seperate them now12:18
CartasI followed this (http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_new_8.29.6_drivers_in_Ubuntu_Dapper_Manually) exactly, yet it still won't work!12:18
Gradius9SeraVitae, Guess that is remote desktop12:18
SeraVitae*nod*12:19
CartasAnyone here know how to get ATi drivers working? :(12:19
ronybeckCartas, have you install the driver?12:19
oskudeonorin, you know that even the ati radeon driver doesnt allways work on notebooks, even under ms-windows12:19
Cartasronybeck: As I said, I followed http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_new_8.29.6_drivers_in_Ubuntu_Dapper_Manually exactly.12:19
SeraVitaegrades - disable the remote desktop feature, ps aux | grep vnc to make sure no other deamons are running12:19
reverieoh nice, the manual on gigabyte's site is just how to isntall sata drives12:19
SeraVitaethen turn on remote desktop again and ps aux | grep vnc again12:19
SeraVitaeto check that it successfully goes down and comes back up12:19
frogzoo!ati > Cartas12:19
ronybeckCartas, why install them manually?12:19
onorinoskude, AFAIR it was working on breezy12:19
CartasHm?12:19
reverienm, they put it right at the bottom12:20
Gradius9SeraVitae, will do12:20
ompaul!install > Cartas12:20
oskudeonorin, ok, so try to get the same version drivers12:20
CartasI've used the ATi installation-guide method, ronybeck.12:20
ompaul!ati > Cartas12:20
reverieoooh, ati under linux12:20
reverienothankyouverymuch12:20
Cartaslol12:21
onorinoskude, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25959/   # only the log file . Note that this is after booting in recovery mode12:21
ronybeckCartas, yes, but why?12:21
ompaulCartas, the bot has send your client urls that are useful12:21
reverieim seeling my notebook to buy one with nvidia or intel gpu12:21
CartasI noticed, thanks ompaul!12:21
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onorinv3l0ct,  oskude, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25959/   # only the log file . Note that this is after booting in recovery mode12:21
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Cartasand ronybeck, what do you mean? :o12:21
Gradius9SeraVitae, I am pretty new to this, I get this12:21
Gradius91000      5556  0.0  0.3   2876   796 pts/0    S+   12:21   0:00 grep vnc12:21
SeraVitaeyep that's okay, thats the command you just typed12:21
SeraVitaeis that with remote desktop turned off?12:21
ed_guys, whats the package name for the kernel headers in dapper? seems to me that just 2.4.27 headers are there...12:21
ompaulCartas, that is the collective wisdom of the ubuntu community on how to deal with ati12:21
ed_or even kernel sources12:21
Gradius9SeraVitae, ON, I dont know how to turn it off in command12:22
CartasI think I've been through all of that, ompaul.12:22
oskudeonorin, well, theres no flgrx driver there...12:22
onorinoskude, v3l0ct ,No I guess not recovery but after reverting the xorg file12:22
CartasBut I'll go over it again :|12:22
wrabbit^Anybody know C?12:22
ronybeckCartas, Why did you use this guide rather than install the ubuntu built drivers?12:22
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CartasWhen I used the fgrlx ones which come with Ubuntu, WoW does not work very well,12:22
v3l0ctonorin: you mean reverting to using the "ati" drivers12:22
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Gradius9SeraVitae, Any idea...12:22
CartasSo, I assumed I'd be better off getting the official ATi drivers.12:22
onorinv3l0ct, yes12:22
SeraVitaeGradius9 - go system -> preferences -> remote desktop and actually turn the remote desktop feature off12:22
oskudeCartas, fglrx IS the "official" ati binary driver...12:23
ronybeckCartas, So is the problem the fglrx drivers or WoW?12:23
CartasOh12:23
onorinv3l0ct, oskude , how can I see the log files, in that black screen thingy12:23
v3l0ctonorin: so did you run aticonfig after the install?12:23
CartasSo, I can go to packages etc. and use that one, oskude.  And it's the official upto date one?12:23
oskudeonorin, press ctrl+alt+f1 to get to console #112:23
onorinv3l0ct, after installing  the driver from saveas, yes I did it12:23
Gradius9SeraVitae, it is headless, only ssh connection... if I have to any physcial to the machine, I have to do it later12:23
Cartasronybeck:  I've no idea.  I start WoW, and it crashes soon after.12:23
SeraVitaeOh, i see.12:23
SeraVitaewell.12:23
v3l0ctonorin: you should use the one from the repos and you still need to run aticonfig after those also12:23
onorinoskude, I think I tried that, not working, at least ctrl+alt+backspace was not working12:24
ronybeckCartas, Ah I get you12:24
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onorinv3l0ct, hang on12:24
SeraVitaetrying to remeber what type of vnc it uses12:24
ronybeckCartas, Ubuntu have the official ATI drivers in the repos12:24
CartasRepos?12:24
v3l0ctonorin: it should at least boot up with mesa12:24
ronybeckCartas, install them rather than the ones that come be default12:24
CartasAs in... on the package installer tool?12:24
CartasOh12:24
markeibwhat's the command for installing all packages needed by one application i want to compile?12:24
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onorinI followed a guide from wiki howto12:24
Arcad3ubuntu makes pancakes too?12:24
onorinv3l0ct, I followed a guide from wiki howto12:24
SubhumanSeraVitae, itz vino12:25
Subhumanthe vnc gnome uses12:25
CartasHow, ronybeck?12:25
SeraVitaeok12:25
Gradius9SeraVitae, I has worked all the time, weird, think it was ssl updates.. that did this.12:25
v3l0ctonorin: ok but with the drivers in the repository you still have to run aticonfig12:25
SeraVitaeGradius9 - well you can do vnc over ssl..12:25
gradesi'm new to linux and i need a little help plz12:25
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SeraVitaedid you originally have vnc over ssl?12:25
SeraVitaeor just raw tcp12:25
ronybeckCartas, use synaptic12:25
onorinv3l0ct, I did just a second12:25
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Subhumangrades, whats up?12:26
gradesafter installing ubuntu it won't boot up, i get a disk erroe12:26
CartasOh12:26
ronybeckCartas, apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx12:26
gradeserroe*12:26
gradeserror12:26
CartasThanks12:26
gradeslol12:26
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Gradius9SeraVitae, did not have it on, so it maybe set it on when I installed the updates.. going to check if my client support ssl vnc12:26
gradesfialed boot disk12:26
onorinv3l0ct, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI . I followed this . only " Using drivers from ati.com " section12:26
CartasDo you know how I can stop WoW crashing then?  If it's not the graphics, I don't know what it could be...12:26
SeraVitaeGradius9 - bring vino back up12:26
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Arcad3!make pancackes with ubuntu12:26
ubotumake: The GNU version of the "make" utility.. In component main, is optional. Version 3.80+3.81.b4-1 (dapper), package size 279 kB, installed size 1312 kB12:26
Gradius9SeraVitae, just did it raw (internal net)12:26
SeraVitaemm12:26
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onorinv3l0ct, I got the drivers from Seveas, then run aticonfig  , twice12:27
ronybeckCartas, then edit the ` driver     "ati"`  to read `driver          "fglrx"` in /etc/x11/xorg.conf12:27
ompaulArcad3, please, this channel is rather busy, if you want random banter go to #ubuntu-offtopic12:27
onorinv3l0ct, then I disable the ubuntu provided fglrx, and reboot12:27
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ronybeckCartas, how are you running WoW?12:27
v3l0ctonorin: and you have the restricted modules installed12:27
CartasShould I run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, ronybeck, or not?12:27
CartasI use a program called Wine.12:27
onorinv3l0ct, I have followed all the howtos in forums . Probably I have done it.12:27
ronybeckCartas, you could.  I think that does what you need12:27
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CartasI've done it loads of times before :P12:28
onorinv3l0ct, wait a second12:28
ronybeckCartas, the problem with WoW is hard to trouble shoot with out knowing the symptoms12:28
CartasHm12:28
CartasWell12:28
onorinv3l0ct, I really suspect that this may be specific to my laptop12:28
CartasI log in... and then, after about 1minute, the computer will freeze.12:28
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v3l0ctit's possible12:28
Arcad3can i make my ubuntu  mak pancakes plss help i.m hungry:))12:28
ompaulCartas, it sould not hurt, when you do you should only adjust the driver accept all other values, when done restart X if it is running12:28
CartasSo I have to just press the reset button on my computer.12:28
onorinv3l0ct, I mean hp nx7010 just wait a bit12:28
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CartasRestart X, ompaul?12:29
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Gradius9SeraVitae, "<SeraVitae>Gradius9 - bring vino back up" how do I do this?12:29
ompaulCartas, X is the GUI,12:29
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CartasUmm...12:29
ronybeckCartas, If the problem is just poor graphics performance then installing and configuring fglrx should fix it12:29
CartasHow do I restart that?12:29
ompaulCartas, log out and back in12:29
CartasOkay.12:29
v3l0ctR200 cards are known to be troublesome with the fglrx drivers12:29
Gradius9SeraVitae, trying to find commands for the vnc server included now on google...12:30
CartasI have two Radeon x1900's.12:30
ompaulCartas, if it fails log in and choose ATI as the card type12:30
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cratukiWhat's the appropriate way to make changes to iptables permanent?12:30
CartasOkay, I've done with the xserver-xorg reconfiguration, ompaul.  So I'll relog now.12:30
rushi all12:30
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cratuki(persistent across reboots)12:30
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xexnaoranyone knows about i center x12:31
rusI have a dapper LTS CD and I was wondering if there is a way to install without booting the liveCD feature12:31
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Cartasompaul: By relog, did you mean reboot... or a relog? :o12:32
onorinv3l0ct, please take a a look at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193116&highlight=fglrx+black12:32
CartasI logged back in and nothing seems to have changed :O12:32
ompaulCartas, log out and back in12:32
CartasDone12:32
onorinv3l0ct, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=171041&highlight=fglrx+black12:32
CartasNow what?12:32
Materazzirus, u gotta get the alternate cd12:32
ompaulCartas well you can look at that url I sent you12:32
CartasWait...12:32
CartasI installed the drivers.12:32
CartasThen configured them.12:33
CartasDon't I need to reboot to get the drivers working, rather than just a relog? :o12:33
rusMaterazzi: my burner sux, isnt there a boot option for it? like server mode or something?12:33
ompaulCartas, not usually if you feel it may help please do so, and please stop using enter in the place of a comma thanks12:33
v3l0ctonorin: what about it?  only 8.29.6 drivers support X1900 cards12:33
Materazzirus, directly from the iso file?12:34
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CartasOh, only 8.29.6 drivers support x1900 cards?12:34
Materazzii've heard of somthin like this already12:34
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v3l0ctcheck out ati's webpage, a little research helps a lot12:34
Cartasronybeck: Apparently, 8.29.6 drivers are the only ones which work for the x1900...12:34
onorinv3l0ct, yeah a little irrelevant. Last time  I found someone was complaing it was because the high resolution12:34
v3l0ctgoogle is your friend12:35
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ronybeckCartas, ah ok12:35
rusMaterazzi: boot from an iso? how is that done?12:35
CartasBut, when I try to install them, they don't even let me boot into Linux, I just get onto the command-line interface.12:35
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CartasWith the errors of: 'Fatal Server Error: no screens found.'12:35
Materazzirus, u probably could transfer iso file to another machine via lan and boot via lan from that file...12:35
ompaulCartas, that is linux :)12:35
hazexprus: burn the ISO using any popular CD burning program12:35
v3l0ctonorin: what resolution are you trying to run?12:35
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hazexpthen boot from the CD12:35
onorinv3l0ct, the default resoluion is 1600 x 105012:36
CartasHehe, ompaul.  Less correcting me, more helping me! ;)12:36
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Materazzirus, you're better off writing the iso file into a cd somehow....12:36
rusme burner sux, the cd turns out corrupt12:36
v3l0ctonorin: wow, no way you can get that to work with xorg12:36
CartasI'll go google for x1900 ubuntu or something, I guess.12:36
ompaulCartas, get older cards they work better :)12:36
Cartas:(12:36
v3l0ctspecially on a 9200 mobility12:36
CartasBut x1900's are superb!12:36
onorinv3l0ct, it is working now12:36
Materazzirus, burn it from a friend's PC12:36
josh_hello all. i have an issue with samba... i have a share on my linux box i would like to access from my wifes mac/windows boxs. i can see the share on the network, however i am unable to access it because of authentication errors. i know i am using the correct username and password (well mine... the one im on now). is there a different user that needs to be setup for this? like smbuseradd or something like that?12:36
Cartas... in Windows XP...12:36
ompaulCartas, not if they are not working correctly12:36
v3l0ctonorin: awesome12:36
onorinv3l0ct, I also made it work 3d enabled in suse 10.112:36
CartasIn Windows XP they do work!12:36
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onorinv3l0ct, I just want to enable 3d12:37
rusMaterazzi: he has a mac, it would be a pain to share it12:37
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cratukiI want to make changes to my iptables config permanent. Would it be best to create a new file in /etc/init.d to do this?12:37
ubuntu_hi josh12:37
v3l0ctonorin: ubuntu has a funny way of setting up systems for some things.  it's a drawback12:37
Materazzirus, make him download it again!12:37
ubuntu_did u add samba user first?12:37
Cartasv3l0ct: It says this on a wiki for Ubuntu ATi installation:12:37
CartasThe included fglrx driver supports Radeon 8500+ and the X-series cards up to X1900.12:37
rus:)12:38
darkanyelhow can i hide "Recent documents" in the places menu???12:38
onorinv3l0ct, I feel it. This is about resolution or refresh rate. I feel it in my bones12:38
josh_cd /join samba12:38
josh_lol12:38
josh_wrong command12:38
ubuntu_lol12:38
Gradius9SeraVitae, well i have to go, will be back later12:38
russhoot12:38
SeraVitaesorry dude im suffering here on my own too heh12:38
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rusmy installation hangs mith some python thing12:38
ruseven with 256 ram12:39
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ompaulCartas, this looks reasonable, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide are you sure you followed it line for line?12:39
SeraVitaei want these mother**in pythons off my mother**in server!12:39
v3l0ctonorin: yeah, it should work because it worked with suse. like i said, ubuntu is different in how they setup things.  I prefer slack, straight forward12:39
CartasI followed step-2 line-by-line.12:39
CartasMethod 2*12:39
plumaIs there a way to cycle through desktop wallpapers once every hour?12:39
rusMaterazzi: the cd is ok I checked it12:39
rusMaterazzi: the cd is ok I checked i12:39
plumai.e. random desktop wallpaper.12:39
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ompaulCartas, try method 112:40
CartasWill do.12:40
rusMaterazzi: the installation quits with some python error thing12:40
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josh_how do i change my network name?12:40
Materazzirus, the live cd?12:40
rusMaterazzi: yep12:40
josh_well my boxes "workgroup" name12:40
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rusMaterazzi: got 256 ram, it shouldnt do that12:41
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Materazzirus, download the alternate...12:41
josh_and how do i get the gnome desktop back?12:41
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xavjosh_, back from what?12:41
ompauljosh_, what is there in the place of your gnome desktop?12:41
josh_i used to run ubuntu and kubuntu but i had to einstall on new disk and only have kubuntu disk12:41
onorinoh linux is so deep12:41
rusMaterazzi: ok, will try12:41
xavjose, did you install kubuntu?12:42
ompauljosh_, "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"12:42
v3l0ctjosh_: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop12:42
josh_yeah i install kubuntu12:42
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josh_ahh12:42
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josh_i tried gnome-desktop12:42
xavwell that would work also12:42
xavyou just have to select gnome from the login manager12:42
Materazzirus, i've got 313MB and it barely survives...12:42
xavwhich is probably kdm12:42
josh_but i didn't get all the apps ubuntu had12:42
onorinv3l0ct, I found the post I were looking for. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=15124212:42
xavjosh_, oh so you can use gnome12:43
josh_yeah12:43
ompaulxav, that is why we have ubuntu-desktop - manages look and feel12:43
Materazzirus, download xubuntu also... just in case ubuntu doens't make it...12:43
xavjosh_, what the other ppl said then12:43
josh_i wanted both sets of apps and guis12:43
josh_thank you12:43
rusMaterazzi: k12:43
xavompaul, I know, but I wonder if I don't prefer without it12:43
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onorinv3l0ct, I also found the referred post12:44
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xavompaul, it installs a bunch of apps I don't want. and default look and feel seems lighter12:44
josh_that and i remember how to change all my settings from a gnome config :P12:44
Ash-Fox!12:44
EspenBecan anyone tell me how to run a service as ipv4 instead of ipv6 in /etc/inetd.conf ?12:44
v3l0ctoronin: that was on breezy probably, not using xorg 712:44
ompaulxav that is your call, the user in question asked for Ubuntu over Kubuntu so ..12:44
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v3l0ctonorin: with xorg 7 you have to use 8.25 and above12:45
onorinv3l0ct, I am lost12:45
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v3l0ctonorin: i'm sorry12:45
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onorinv3l0ct, should I go for edgy ?12:46
xavompaul, nope, he asked gnome. but whatever :) there is no problem12:46
josh_i wanted the ubuntu desktop more for all the apps that i used to have that i dont with kubuntu :)...and the setups are more... together...12:46
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ompaulxav, point12:46
v3l0ctonorin: no, do you really have to run ubuntu?12:46
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v3l0ctonorin: or you just want to use gnome12:46
onorinv3l0ct, not indeed, what do you suggest12:46
ompauljosh_, "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"12:46
josh_working on it now :)12:47
v3l0ctonorin: depends what you are looking for12:47
v3l0ctonorin: what is it you want to do with the laptop12:47
LochnessXcan anyone help me with some wine issues?12:47
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Bakemonohi12:47
LochnessXit keeps crashing when i click the audio tab in "winecfg"12:47
xavLochnessX, #winehq12:47
LochnessXah thanks12:47
xavLochnessX, remove arts driver12:47
onorinv3l0ct, I use my computer 1st, for my curiosity and nerdness second, I really want to have a stable system that I could use for daily tasks12:47
xavLochnessX, winearts.drv.so or something like that12:47
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LochnessXxav: thanks, ill look into this12:48
myesteriousIf i am using Dapper but also add edgy resporitorty and install some app from edgy apt, May my linux crash ?12:48
v3l0ctonorin: that's fine but i mean, you want gnome or kde and do you game or just surf12:48
onorinv3l0ct, main reason I stick to ubuntu, that it has a huge community12:48
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xavLochnessX, http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=513412:48
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v3l0ctonorin: huge is not better and not saying the ubuntu community is not good but I wouldn't go by size12:49
onorinv3l0ct, I used both. At first I liked KDE better, but after sometime I disliked it. Gnome seemed to me more native.12:49
LochnessXxav: Thank you, I will read it now.12:49
xavonorin, more native?12:49
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QuoVadisHi!12:49
xavonorin, what does that mean? :)12:49
LochnessXxav: No, it gives me an ALSA error.12:49
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rambo3donald thrump huge12:50
onorinxav, I find QT something seperate from linux itself. Forexample, firefox is in gnome, mono is in gnome, eclipse is in gnome etc12:50
LochnessXxav: "ALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory"12:50
xavLochnessX, that shouldnt matter12:50
v3l0ctonorin: ok, you should give frugalware a try.  0.5 runs latest gnome and a 2.16.17 kernel, gcc4.1.1 and they have packages 8.28.10 for use, much easier install than ubuntu12:50
LochnessXill ask in #WINEHQ though.12:50
rambo3LochnessX, install alsa oss12:50
LochnessXrambo3: I tried that.12:50
onorinv3l0ct, I tried suse earlierly. And community and forums are less responsive12:50
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xavonorin, these apps are not in gnome, but they use gtk, right12:51
v3l0ctonorin: ati = 8.28, with frugalware just go to their irc channel for help12:51
rambo3LochnessX, your card ? paste /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base12:51
v3l0ctonorin: devs are always on irc12:51
LochnessXrambo3: It was working yesterday.12:51
onorinxav, true I dont want an arguement now.12:51
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LochnessXrambo3: and normal sound works as well.12:51
xavonorin, some kde/qt apps are quite nice though, like konqueror, k3b or amarok12:52
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onorinv3l0ct, you know people are always conservative12:52
bz0bhey just a quick question, does ubuntu guide break your system?12:52
onorinxav, I don't care, I like gnome better12:52
v3l0ctonorin: ok, i agree12:52
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rambo3LochnessX, sudo modprobe snd-seq-oss12:52
onorinv3l0ct, this is why linux crowd screeming for windows users to make a change12:53
xavv3l0ct, did you say frugalware was easier to install than ubuntu ?12:53
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v3l0ctxav: it's based on slackware12:53
rambo3LochnessX, and sudo modprobe snd-seq12:53
bun-bunif anyone has gotten bitpim working, i could use some help12:53
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aaron_ive downloaded a .tar.gz file, apparently all i have to do is install it using my package manager... how do i do that?12:54
ompaul!offtopic12:54
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!12:54
oskudeaaron_, no, completely wrong12:54
v3l0ctonorin: everybody wants to push their own agenda.  I use what i want to use, that makes me happy.12:54
ompaulbz0b, I had such a complaint last evening12:54
mikeymike-linuxdoes anyone know what time it is in central u.s.?12:54
v3l0ctmikeymike-linux: almost 6am12:55
mikeymike-linuxi knew it12:55
onorinv3l0ct, though I also am a software developer. And I think I have a skill to analyse trends12:55
mikeymike-linuxwhere do you live12:55
ompaulmikeymike-linux,  05:55:2012:55
aaron_oskude - whats the process?12:55
ompaulmikeymike-linux, that is offtopic12:55
v3l0ctonorin: you could also try zenwalk.  slack based also, it's very very good.  Uses XFCE12:55
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MukiEXCan't seem to download faad or faac12:56
oskude!software > aaron_12:56
MukiEXIs there a source I'm missing?12:56
onorinv3l0ct, so basically, a platform or a software is good to me. First, if it has a large community12:56
MukiEX!faac12:56
ubotufaac: an AAC audio encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.24clean-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 33 kB, installed size 92 kB12:56
ompaulv3l0ct, onorin offtopic - please move it to #ubuntu-offtopic or pm12:56
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MukiEX!faad12:56
ubotufaad: freeware Advanced Audio Decoder player. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.0.0+cvs20040908+mp4v2+bmp-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 18 kB, installed size 80 kB12:56
oskudeaaron_, read what ubotu send you12:56
MukiEXI turned on everything in sources.list, but I still don't get faac to show up in apt-get12:56
ompaulMukiEX, message the bot - /msg ubotu faad not in the channel for yourself thanks12:56
oskude!synaptic > aaron_12:56
MukiEXthanks12:57
oskudeMukiEX, did you do "sudo apt-get update" ?12:57
MukiEXYes.12:57
MukiEXFirst thing I did.12:57
ompaulMukiEX, paste your sources.list in paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us the url thanks12:57
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v3l0ctMukiEX: open a terminal and "sudo apt-get install faac faad"12:58
KDanis there an ubuntu package for apache2 mod-rewrite? couldn't find it on the ubuntu package search12:58
MukiEXSorry, here : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25961/12:58
MukiEXThanks, v3l0ct12:58
MukiEXfaac has no installation candidate.12:58
onorinv3l0ct, thanks for advice12:58
v3l0ctonorin: np, good luck :)12:58
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onorinv3l0ct,  firstly I will concentrate on my current problem . But i will think about what u said12:59
v3l0ct:)12:59
oskudeKDan, maybe its in "apache2-common" look "apt-cache show apache2-common"12:59
ompaulMukiEX, lines 16 and 17 should have multiverse - backports should not be enabled unless you know what you are doing12:59
hddhello, with edgy, I got a strange spindown sound on my laptop with seagate HD, somebody else got that to?12:59
ubuntu-newbwhere can I get plug ins for the media player to play mpeg and avi files?12:59
oskude!edgy > hdd12:59
KDanoskude: cheers12:59
ompaulMukiEX, and add it to 31 and 32 also then update and install01:00
hddoskude: ?01:00
oskudehdd, read what ubotu send you01:00
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MukiEXSo copy lines 16 and 17, adding -backports to each one, and paste at the bottom?01:00
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hddoskude: thx01:01
ompaulMukiEX, no01:01
Scorpmoonhelp! I installed samba and smbfs, and setup cups server in smb.conf, yet I don't know how to find the printer from my windows machine01:01
wrabbit^ubuntu-newb: Try here..... easy steps and info... http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper01:01
ompaulMukiEX, add multiverse to 16, 17 31 and 32 and I would not bother with backports01:01
ben_underscoreubuntu-newb: or read this https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/codecs.html01:01
Scorpmoonif I connect to \\mylinuxmachine then I get a dialog prompting for username/password, but the linux login here doesn't work01:01
MukiEXThanks, will do01:01
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MukiEXarrggg, thanks so much, it works now ^_^01:03
ompaulMukiEX, of course it does ;-)01:03
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MukiEXIs there an easy way to build a deb?01:04
oskude!checkinstall > MukiEX01:05
ompaul!checkinstall > MukiEX01:05
ompaulohh01:05
oskudeMukiEX, but please dont use checkinstall for distribution ;)01:05
MukiEXIs checkinstall good for a quick fix and a personal deb?01:06
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ompaulMukiEX, yes, that is what it is for01:06
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MukiEXThanks ;)01:06
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ompaul!build-essential > MukiEX01:06
MukiEXoh wow, it just DOES it?01:06
Scorpmoonnevermind, I fixed it01:06
ompaulMukiEX, if you don't have that - you need that01:06
Scorpmooni hate i hate i hate ubuntu01:07
ubunthi. i`ve got a problem. i installed ubuntu phisically on hdd (not in vmware) and there is no updates waiting for me to download (but they were always waiting in vmware). how to download those updates manualy?01:07
MukiEXompaul : got it; needed it for ati drivers ^_^01:07
ompaulubunt, in a terminal "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get upgrade"01:08
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ubuntompaul - works, thanks01:09
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zaphod_am looking for a good movie player with convinient subtitles support01:09
zaphod_suggestions?01:09
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Ash-Foxmplayer, vlc, totem.01:09
ompaulzaphod_, mplayer has it, you need to tell the player what file the sublites are in01:09
ompaulsublites? arrr subtitles01:09
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ompaulrathmines lunch time :-) cheers01:10
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zaphod_ok... here's the problem - my avi file is located at another computer via smb. just opening that file with mplayer won't work.01:11
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zaphod_what to do?01:11
oskudezaphod_, can avi contain subtitles ?01:11
gandolfthewizardgm morning all01:12
zaphod_leave the subtitle, i can't open the file01:12
gandolfthewizardlooking for some help trying to install a program from the terminal and i need to chang the dir to the desktop how do i do that01:12
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oskudezaphod_, well, "cant open" may have many causes... try starting mplayer from termnial, open file, amd look for error messages01:13
zaphod_gandolf , do cd ~/Desktop01:13
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ubunt01:14
ubuntdziala utf u mnie?01:14
zaphod_oskude, starting it from the terminal works fine. dragging/dbl click from nautilus won't01:14
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oskudezaphod_, cant help on "wont work", sorry...01:15
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zaphod_oskude, i'm sorry. i'll verbosly explain: using nautilus, exploring till the directory containing the movie files (seinfeld...), right click, open with another program, choosing mplayer: response: mplayer opens up, but no movie is showin01:18
oskudezaphod_, hmm, and what happens if you press play ? (in mplayer)01:18
oskudezaphod_, btw, sometimes the (atleast here) the video screen was opened "off screen"01:19
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cZar|deonerhi01:19
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gileswheya gang01:19
gileswsomething seems to be cripling my system01:19
cZar|deonerhow to change the resolution on ubuntu server 6.0601:20
cZar|deoner?01:20
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gileswi've checked top and this ps apt-index-watch keeps coming up01:20
gileswsystem prefs czar01:20
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cZar|deoner?01:20
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gileswtop of the screen01:21
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oskudecZar|deoner, using "VGA=791" for kernel boot options should but the text console to 800x600x32 resolution... i wonder if ubotu knows more01:21
zaphod_oskude, nothing happens. looks like nautilus gave it the wrong parameters (cause it's working from terminal).. what a pity01:21
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sphorbishmmm i cant seem to get any thing to mount, any help?01:22
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sphorbisflash drives, my windows drive, microdrive01:23
oskudezaphod_, if you start the mplayer gui, and open from its "file" menu, does that work ?01:23
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oskudezaphod_, and you could look if theres a known bug...01:24
zaphod_oskude, no it is not working. it doesn't accept the file "smb://host/share"... about the bug, i'll check it.01:25
oskudezaphod_, i never used samba, so i cant help on that... have you tested to copy the file locally and then try to play it from nautilus ?01:25
CartasHm, I got the graphics working, ompaul, seems it's just WoW not being able to run properly...01:26
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CartasIf I can get that fixed, then I'll never have to boot into Windows again, hmm...01:26
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zaphod_the file is showing if i start mplayer from the terminal... so this is an isoteric problem... wth01:26
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fyrestrtr!framebuffer01:26
ubotuIf you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer01:26
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Cartas!worldofwacraft01:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about worldofwacraft - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:27
fyrestrtroskude: he sure does :)01:27
CartasAw...01:27
Cartas!WoW01:27
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php01:27
SpCombhrhr01:27
nomin!cedega01:27
ubotucedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega01:27
CartasIs Cegega better than Wine?01:27
SpCombit's different...01:27
nominCartas:  much better01:27
CartasOh01:27
CartasIt's also free? :O01:27
SpCombit costs money, but it's has a lot more support for stuff games need01:27
nominCartas:  you can try the cedega timedemo for free01:27
oskudefyrestrtr, indeed, thanx (iwas looking for fbdev:)01:27
CartasOh...01:27
CartasWill that let me play WoW, nomin? :O01:28
nominCartas:  it costs $5 per month01:28
SpCombit should, check those urls01:28
CartasI'm trying WoW on Wine.01:28
oskudeCartas, only the cvs version is free, afaik01:28
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CartasAnd after about 30-45seconds, it crashes.01:28
nominCartas:  I'll find the link that lists all the games cedega plays.  I'm sure it does WoW.  I played Battlefield 1942 on the demo.01:28
Cartashttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega01:28
CartasIt says WoW on there :P01:28
CartasAlthough a small W for 'world'. Someone should change it!01:29
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nominTransGaming.Org Games Database01:29
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nominTransGaming.Org Games Database  http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/01:29
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CartasHm.01:30
CartasHow long, exactly, does this free-demo-thing last then?01:30
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SpComblook on the cedega web page01:31
sonickhi01:31
nominWorld of Warcraft  * This game is officially supported by TransGaming.01:31
nomin  http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/games/view.mhtml?game_id=351801:31
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nominCartas:  I think it lasts 2 weeks and there is a big cedega logo in the center of the screen.01:31
CartasAw01:31
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nominCartas:  but it works very well.  It easily installs updates also.  I haven't paid for it yet, but I think I will.01:32
CartasHm, okay01:33
sonickall my USB key or hdd doesn't mount automatically. All i have is the message "kernel: [17180033.292000]  usb 3-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 14" in the logs. I tried under knoppix and it works perfectly. How to resolve this ?01:33
nomingames run a little better on linux with cedega than they do on windows.01:33
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hazexpnot always01:33
CartasCan I just ask. When I first installed Ubuntu, I had 3 extra options on the screen where you choose OS'/options.01:33
hazexpI've found games load quicker in Wine/Cedega, but tend to perform worse in terms of FPS01:34
CartasNow I have 4 more options for different ubuntu things...01:34
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CartasOoo, Theme Hospital works.01:34
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nominBattlefield 2  * This game is officially supported by TransGaming  http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/games/view.mhtml?game_id=361801:36
sonickplease I need the datas in a short time...01:36
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ifrozenhali01:37
defcon8hali01:38
plumaIn case anybody else seeks a desktop wallpaper randomiser: http://oracle.bridgewayconsulting.com.au/~davyd/misc/change-background-py.html -- works like a charm01:38
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gandolfthewizardwhat are the system debugger program01:40
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hazexpIt was so tempting to say Dr. Watson01:41
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LoCoOohello01:41
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gandolfthewizardcan someone tell me were ther system debugger is01:42
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ex-parrotam I the only person who wants write-through caching disabled on my USB pen drives? anyone know how I can do this?01:42
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sonickhere is the problem : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25962/01:42
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oleeninstalling an earlier version of Ubuntu, and then ugrading to current with apt-get is no problem, right?01:43
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ex-parrotsupposedly, oleen.... although I wouldn't trust it necessarily01:43
gandolfthewizardhow do i disable the system debugger01:44
ex-parrotwhat do you mean, gandolfthewizard ?01:44
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oleenso upgrades are usually done via cd-rom, etc? not as with debian, that is?01:44
gandolfthewizardi am trying to install crossover and it says please disable or remove the system debugger01:44
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livingdaylightusing GParted here. Partitioned my sdb but they have not been assigned mountpoints / and /home And i don't see anywhere how to do that on GParted. Can someone comment/advise, please?01:45
boinkoleen: ubuntu uses apt-get, like debian does01:45
ex-parrotgandolfthewizard, are you running something like SoftIce?01:45
Cartas!cedera01:45
boinkthus, if you have a good internet connection you can upgrade your system01:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cedera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:45
gandolfthewizardno01:45
CartasHm, what's the program called?01:45
ex-parrotokay, any other realtime debuggers?01:45
oleeni know, so upgrades should work as flawlessly as with debian, shouldn't it?01:45
boinkyes, in theory.01:45
gandolfthewizardnot that i know of i just install ubuntu last nigt01:45
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oleenbut there's a but...?01:45
boinkMurphy's Law ..01:45
xavoleen, well, it's not the same packages01:46
xavoleen, but the same system is used01:46
gandolfthewizarddose ubuntu h ave one01:46
boinkhave what?01:46
Cartas!cedara01:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cedara - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:46
American-TechI am new linux and i am having trouble installing programs that are not found in package manger01:46
oleeni see. i was thinking of installing ubuntu, then upgrading to dapper (no cd-roms lying around...)01:46
CartasHmm...01:46
boink!apt-get01:47
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)01:47
ex-parrotgandolfthewizard, not by default01:47
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livingdaylightLike i said using GParted: got /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdb2 to the size i want but don't seem to be able to assign the mountpoints / and /home. Can someone comment/advise, please?01:47
CartasDoes anyone know the name of the program with which I can run Windows Games.  The one which isn't Wine.01:47
Cartas!Cedera01:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Cedera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:47
ex-parrotCedega,  Cartas01:47
rkd!cedega01:47
ubotucedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega01:47
CartasAh, thanks!01:47
xavCartas, cedega, but you have to pay for it01:47
CartasI'll get the free version :P01:47
ex-parrotnot necessarily xav, don't they have a CVS version that is free?01:47
oleenCartas: crossover works for some games, at least the latest beta01:47
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rkdxav: iirc, the cvs source is free if you build it yourself01:48
ex-parrotanyone know how to disable write-through caching on USB devices?01:48
CartasOh, what's that, oleen?  Better than Wine?01:48
xavex-parrot, I think they do, but it's less nice01:48
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Cartas!crossover01:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about crossover - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:48
ex-parrotit is less nice xav, hasn't got the hand-holding gui installer and manager system :P that's what you're paying for really :P01:48
livingdaylightHey Guys!!! Can any o you help me with assigning mountpoint to my sdb1 and sdb2 ?01:48
gandolfthewizarddoes crossover have a debugger01:48
livingdaylightgandolfthewizard: hey, is it you?!01:49
oleenCartas: it is pre-tested with some applications, e.g. Photoshop, Dreamweaver, so it should work out-of-the-box. the latest beta (6.0 i think it is) should rund half-life, counter-strike.01:49
xavex-parrot, I thought it didn't work as well, because it was missing some features. I could be wrong though01:49
gandolfthewizardyes it is me01:49
sphorbis2i'm having trouble with gpg keys, anyone can help?01:49
ex-parrotit does kind of gandolfthewizard, but not a realtime one01:49
livingdaylightgandolfthewizard: is it you gandalf the git?01:49
livingdaylightgandolfthewizard: kevin?01:49
CartasOleen:  World of Warcraft?01:49
gandolfthewizardhow do i turn it off01:49
ex-parrotxav, could be so01:49
ex-parrotgandolfthewizard, you don't normally...01:49
oleenCartas: i think WoW was listed as well, yes01:49
livingdaylightgandolfthewizard: no?01:49
xavCartas, wine can run wow afaik01:50
CartasYes.01:50
gandolfthewizardok01:50
CartasBut my whole computer freezes up after about 20 seconds.01:50
livingdaylightgandolfthewizard: say, are you kevin?01:50
oleenCartas: search for crossover @ google, and check the release notes for the latest beta release01:50
gandolfthewizardno i am not kevin01:50
livingdaylightgandolfthewizard: are you in LONDON01:50
gandolfthewizardno01:50
xavcrossover is not intended for games01:50
gandolfthewizardusa01:50
CartasXav:  Care to help me solve my WoW-crashing problem then, old chap? :)01:51
livingdaylightgandolfthewizard: ok, i know another gandolf is all, no worries01:51
American-TechHow do install software that is not located in package manger01:51
gandolfthewizardthat is fine01:51
elkbuntulivingdaylight, given the popularity of LOTR, that's not surprising01:51
ex-parrotAmerican-Tech, how is it packaged?01:51
binahi, does anyone know where KDEs Wlan Assistant stores data on the network you connect to?01:51
ex-parroti.e, what is the file extension?01:51
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oleenAmerican-Tech: you could always install from source, if you feel comfortable doing that, not a problem, really01:52
ex-parrotwhat are you trying to install, American-Tech ?01:52
livingdaylightHey, Guys, seriously, its the 5th time of asking. Using GParted here. got my /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdb2 assigned the size i want but still need to assign mountpoint / and /home.Can anyof you please help me here?01:52
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American-TechI want to install this http://www.winehq.com/01:52
ex-parrotlivingdaylight, add entries to fstab?01:52
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ex-parrotAmerican-Tech, winehq provide packages of the latest release of wine for ubuntu, see their download page for instructions...01:53
ex-parroteasy as.01:53
livingdaylightex-parrot: errr...how...please speak slow and clear. i'm a noob01:53
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gandolfthewizardi keep on getting an error when i go to install office 2003 any ideas01:53
CartasAmerican-Tech: It tells you on the site.01:53
Cartashttp://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb01:53
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ex-parrotlivingdaylight, sorry :) edit /etc/fstab, and change the lines for / and /home if you have them, or make new ones. the manual page for fstab (man fstab) should do a better jobe of explaining it than I can01:53
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ex-parrotI require sleep.01:54
livingdaylightex-parrot: why cant i do it in GParted?01:54
alex_ubuntuis there a gui for 606 server01:55
livingdaylightex-parrot: or can i do it in the installation phase ?01:55
oleeni'm considering migrating from gentoo to ubuntu, but of course i want to keep my /home-partition. no known problems doing that during the ubuntu install?01:55
American-Techok I want to understand the basics. I would always need to add to respitory when installing programs?01:55
CartasIf they're packaged programs, American-Tech.01:55
CartasI think01:55
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gandolfthewizarddose anyone here know how to use crossover01:56
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American-Techok I think I got that01:56
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nominAmerican-Tech:  I saw a site that explains how to install exploerer on ubuntu.  It should be helpful.  I'll find it...01:57
nomin!explorer01:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about explorer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:57
NET||abusehey guys, i can't play real player video from a web site(my brother wanted to watch the football on bbc) how can i get support or firefox plugin for real player?01:58
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NET||abuserather the real player plugin for firefox :P01:58
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oleenIE with crossover worked fine for me, crossover did the whole job from d/l the files to installing and running the app01:58
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McNutellahaving problems here with "sound server fatal error" can someone help me please ?01:59
CartasWIne always crashes when I click 'auido'... :(01:59
American-TechSorry about this I am new to linux and ubuntu..02:00
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oleentrying one more time: i'm considering migrating from gentoo to ubuntu, but of course i want to keep my /home-partition. no known problems doing that during the ubuntu install?02:00
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American-TechSo if i as a silly ? im a newbiee02:00
KDanwhere do you tell ubuntu to switch from ipv6 to ipv4?02:00
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kemikAmerican-Tech: if a package isnt existing in your currently configured repositories, and it is availble in some other, then yes you'd have to configure that repos02:01
mumblesgbrent ?02:01
nomin HOWTO Setup Wine  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585&highlight=wine02:01
mumblesoops worn gperosn i think02:01
kemikAmerican-Tech: but you can also just download the .deb and install via dpkg02:02
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nominAmerican-Tech:  that is the best how-to for installing wine and explorer02:02
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American-TechI already added the respitory and now it shows up in the package manger02:03
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American-TechWhat is a deb?02:03
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BazziRa software package02:04
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CartasThanks Nomin.  That's one I haven't gone through.02:05
EvilTofuIs it possible to duel boot osx and ubuntu using 2 HDs?02:05
CartasI hope my Wine works after this.02:05
Cerdawhen will edgy be released?02:05
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gandolfthewizardok can someone help me with crossover02:05
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wickedpuppy!schedule > Cerda02:07
nicolaciao a tutti02:07
wickedpuppyEvilTofu, one OS per hd ?02:07
wickedpuppy!it02:07
nicolapotete darmi una mano?02:07
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:07
KDanwhere do you tell ubuntu to switch from ipv6 to ipv4?02:07
[A] ndy80hi02:07
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wickedpuppyubuntu use ipv6 ?02:08
fyrestrtr!ipv6 > KDan02:08
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wickedpuppy!ipv6 > wickedpuppy02:08
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wickedpuppyinteresting ..02:08
Cerda!schedule02:08
fyrestrtrwickedpuppy: /msg ubotu ipv6 works better02:08
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule02:08
wickedpuppyokie dokie02:09
[A] ndy80could you please tell me how can I log in a text file the output of "apt-get dist-upgrade" ? I tried with: apt-get dist-upgrade -qq > output.txt, but no success... only half of the output is logged. Can you help me? I've to submit a bug to bugs.ubuntu.com. Thanks02:09
fyrestrtroleen: no shouldn't be a problem, just make sure you do a manual partition.02:09
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fyrestrtr[A] ndy80: apt-get dist-upgrade 2>&1 > output.txt02:09
highvoltagehi. if I use DNAT on a PC with a public IP address, I only need to set it up on that server, right?02:09
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[A] ndy80fyrestrtr: thanks, I try now.02:10
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fyrestrtrhighvoltage: set what up?02:10
KDanfyrestrtr: thanks02:10
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highvoltagefyrestrtr: DNAT02:11
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fyrestrtryes, only on the server. The machine that is connected to your modem.02:11
highvoltagefyrestrtr: I want one of my NAT'd PC's to be publicly accessable over the Internet02:11
highvoltagefyrestrtr: ok thanks02:11
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[A] ndy80fyrestrtr: it says "syntax error near unexpected token '2' "02:11
fyrestrtrhighvoltage: then either stick it in a dmz or forward the ports from the server to your pc's ip address.02:11
rusdo u need samba for linux-mac sharing?02:11
EvilTofuwickedpuppy: ok and something will be installedby ubuntu to allow users to select which os to boot?02:11
wickedpuppyEvilTofu, yes .. grub02:12
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fyrestrtrrus: not really. Samba is only for Windows sharing, but since Mac can see Samba shares, it can work. For macs though, you can just use nfs.02:12
highvoltagefyrestrtr: what is a 'dmz'? the 'server' that is conected to the internet is a wireless box om my roof, I don't have that much control over it :/02:12
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gandolfthewizardis there anyone here that can help me with crossover02:13
elias_If I want dapper and edgy simultanously on my PC how would I setup GRUB to accomodate this. Would I use the same /boot partition for both or how is that supposed to look like?02:13
wickedpuppydms = de-militarized zone ...02:13
fyrestrtrhighvoltage: dmz = demilitarized zone. An area of a network that is isolated.02:13
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EvilTofuokies thanks02:13
highvoltagefyrestrtr: ah, ok02:13
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rusfyrestrtr: thanx02:13
American-Techthe universe respitory is software that not offical with ubuntu?02:14
[A] ndy80fyrestrtr: nothing to do... it only logs the first part :(02:14
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fyrestrtrhighvoltage: if your server is connected to the wireless box, and has the public IP address, and is running DNAT, then you need to configure on that server the firewall to forward the port of the service you are running on your local pc. So, if you are running a web server on your local lan pc which is 192.168.0.23, you would then forward port 80 on your server to 192.168.0.23.02:14
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fyrestrtr[A] ndy80: hrmm...02:15
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elias_If I want dapper and edgy simultanously on my PC how would I setup GRUB to accomodate this. Would I use the same /boot partition for both or how is that supposed to look like?02:15
Zaggynl<3 linuxdc++02:15
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fyrestrtr[A] ndy80: try dist-upgrade -- 2>&1 > output.txt02:15
EvilTofuwhy is it that youtube sometimes shows me a video and sometime doesn't?02:15
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highvoltagefyrestrtr: the 'wireless box' is actually the server, all I get on it is a web interface :)02:15
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elias_I am sure there is a standard procedure for that!02:16
fyrestrtrhighvoltage: what is it, some kind of router?02:16
highvoltagefyrestrtr: yes, it's from my wireless ISP02:16
EvilTofuhighvoltage: does the web interface have port forwarding sections?02:16
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highvoltagefyrestrtr: they give me a web interface to configure DNAT, but it doesn't seem to be working02:16
fyrestrtrelias_: no, there isn't :) But you can just replicate your current grub entry for dapper, and just change the image it loads.02:16
richiefrichok i need to askl why is  'dd'  segfaulting on me02:16
highvoltageEvilTofu: it seems so02:16
richiefrichsudo dd if=/root/tiger-x86/tiger-x86-flat.img of=/dev/hda3 bs=512 skip=602:17
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cyziewhat are the essential pakages i needed to install to play most of the movies ?02:17
[A] ndy80fyrestrtr: nothing... it stops to the (Y/n) request.... even if I use the -y option02:17
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fyrestrtrcyzie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:17
flaringodoes anyone know of anything that will increase my performance when playing wow with crossover?02:17
elias_fyrestrtr: how would the automatic grub update thing behave if I share a boot partition?02:18
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fyrestrtrelias_: I don't know, its not a supported configuration.02:18
erUSULrichiefrich: are y using standar ubuntu kernel?02:18
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cyziethanks fyrestrtr02:18
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andyhi, is there a way to switch between KDE and Gnome? (I am using gnome now)02:19
wickedpuppyandy, of course... installed kde ?02:19
richiefricherUSUL yes02:19
andynot that I know of02:19
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andycan I do sudo apt-get install?02:20
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wickedpuppyandy, then kindly install kde -> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:20
andrea_hi02:20
elias_fyrestrtr: somebody should spend some thoughts on that! this is a quite common scenario and should be supported!02:20
richiefricherUSUL Linux Ubuntu 2.6.15-27-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 02:13:27 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux02:20
wickedpuppyandy, after that pls log out and in log-in screen change the session to kde :P02:20
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erUSULrichiefrich: it happens to me too but i thought that it was becouse i use a vanilla beta kernel... can yo test something?02:20
wickedpuppyelias_, i don't think its common ...02:20
andythanks a lot!02:21
wickedpuppynp02:21
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richiefricherUSUL ?02:21
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erUSULrichiefrich: does this segfault? dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null bs=1MB count=402:21
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richiefricherUSUL i can ask it is for my friend in my channel you are welcome to join02:22
andywow, large file02:22
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richiefricherUSUL i ask the ones idk since i am on gentoo :(02:23
wickedpuppy:P02:23
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andyso, does kde have any advantages over gnome?02:23
wickedpuppyrichiefrich, stage 1 install ?02:23
andrea_I have a problem with ubuntu 6.10 beta and babytrans 0.9.2... Can someone help me?02:23
wickedpuppyandy, nope02:23
richiefrichwickedpuppy no man i'm not  that crazy02:23
andyso they are just different?02:23
Rookie_andy - not in ubuntu, gnome is better to ubuntu02:23
kyjababytrans????02:23
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deFryskandrea_, /j #ubuntu+102:24
erUSULrichiefrich: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gettext/+bug/4226402:24
wickedpuppyandy, i am using gnome but burns cd/dvd with k3b ... a kde app .. i don't care which is better02:24
andrea_yes, the dictionary02:24
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deFryskandy, whatever you prefer02:25
deFryskuse that02:25
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andywell, I shall find out what I prefer02:25
deFryskyes02:25
timhaughtonI've installed the latest version of Mono from the Linux x86 installer on the Mono website. I'm finding that eh only way to launch things like MonoDevelop is to do so from the command line. It comes with *.Desktop files but I can't seem to launch in any other way. Anyone know what I might try?02:25
andrea_sorry deFrysk but i dont understand02:25
wickedpuppyandy, so then don't forget to get xubuntu too ... its xfce based desktop02:25
Rookiexfce is not to bad ...02:25
deFryskandrea_, questions about edgy are in the room I just gave02:26
richiefrichwickedpuppy you try it ?02:26
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wickedpuppyrichiefrich, try which one ?02:26
andrea_ok, sorry lol02:26
alex_ubuntucyzie; get automatix (http://www.getautomatix.com/) it will install almost everything you need02:26
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richiefrichwickedpuppy  stage 1 ?02:26
wickedpuppyalex_ubuntu, pls do not recommend automatix02:26
deFryskomg is it legal to advert automatix here ?02:26
deFryskthat piece of shit app02:27
wickedpuppyrichiefrich, i did it one ... took me a week to compile the gaming kernel02:27
wickedpuppyLOL02:27
wickedpuppyonce*02:27
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richiefrichwickedpuppy  lol02:27
alex_ubuntusorry I was passed there, what's the issue02:27
wickedpuppyalex_ubuntu, it does what it says .. install things .. thats the problem02:27
andyalright, going to test kde...02:27
elkbuntudeFrysk, watch the language02:27
lupine_85"sudo apt-get install WindowsXP"  is probably safer ;)02:28
richiefricherUSUL sent you a pm :)02:28
deFryskelkbuntu, ?02:28
joris_Hi everybody is there a special channel for ubuntu labtop problems? I thought #ubuntu-labtop but there is activity.02:28
alex_ubuntuis this in reference to the legaliity of the codecs etc02:28
[A] ndy80deFrysk: I ran apt-get from an ssh session, so i was able to capture the output. You can read it here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/6467802:28
wickedpuppyjoris_, just ask pls ..02:28
elkbuntudeFrysk, automatix is not welcome here, nor is foul language02:28
deFrysk?02:28
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elkbuntu<deFrysk> that piece of <censored> app02:29
wickedpuppyalex_ubuntu, no .. when you got problem we will have to track down what you have installed and so on .. and all you can sasy will be .. "automatix" which doesnt help us02:29
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deFryskelkbuntu, well well02:29
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cyzieok alex_ubuntu02:29
alex_ubuntunow I'm understanding a bit more...02:29
wickedpuppyelkbuntu, deFrysk relax pls ... no need to be tense :P02:29
joris_wickedpuppy For some reason my wireless stopped working. I tried all the troubleshooting... but no succes02:30
wickedpuppyjoris_, thats for the info but how does one help you with that info ? :P kindly give us the hardware name and so on pls02:30
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joris_acer aspire 561202:31
wickedpuppythats notebook ? what about the wireless card ?02:31
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deFryskwickedpuppy, not tense  but who is elkbuntu ?02:31
joris_The wireless finds networks just can't connect02:31
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wickedpuppydeFrysk, no idea .. but i suppose he got a point .. but then i also understand shi* may not be vulgar on the irc02:32
joris_there is a wireless card 802.11 a/b/g02:32
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kyjajoris_, iwlist eth1 scanning02:32
deFrysk??coc02:33
elkbuntuwickedpuppy, a. ubuntu member, b. she, c. bad language is not family friendly02:33
deFrysk?coc02:33
elkbuntu!coc02:33
ubotuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/02:33
deFryskah!02:33
joris_gives me this: eth1      Scan completed :02:33
joris_          Cell 01 - Address: 00:18:39:BB:F3:A802:33
joris_                    ESSID:"cross"02:33
joris_                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11bg02:33
joris_                    Mode:Master02:33
deFryskthank you elk02:33
joris_                    Channel:1102:33
joris_                    Encryption key:on02:33
joris_                    Bit Rates:54 Mb/s02:33
joris_                    Extra: Rates (Mb/s): 1 2 5.5 6 9 11 12 18 24 36 48 5402:33
deFryskah a flooder02:34
joris_                    Quality=35/100  Signal level=-88 dBm  Noise level=-88 dBm02:34
joris_                    IE: WPA Version 102:34
joris_                        Group Cipher : TKIP02:34
joris_                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP02:34
joris_                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK02:34
deFryskerrrr02:34
joris_                    Extra: Last beacon: 4836ms ago02:34
elias_If I have my grub in MBR and the boot dir on my ROOT (root1) partition, but I have another ROOT (root2) with its on boot dir, can I make grub MBR start a grub instance written to root2?02:34
deFryskflooder02:34
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elkbuntu!paste02:34
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:34
elkbuntujoris_, please never do that again02:34
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kyjayeah, use pastebin.02:35
joris_oops oh sorry not so used to irc...02:35
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wickedpuppyso how andy ? in kde ?02:35
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elkbuntujoris_, thats fine. just remember to avoid doing it again02:35
deFryskjoris_, you are dutch why not try #ubuntu-nl ?02:35
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joris_yes i'm dutch i can switch02:36
deFrysksure02:36
andyI just installed KDE and when I tried to log into KDE I got an error and it logged me out.  I also tried a couple of the programs that came with kde (In gnome) and it gave me the error: DCOP Communications error02:36
deFrysk /j #ubuntu-nl02:36
elkbuntudeFrysk, there's more people here ;)02:36
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wickedpuppyandy, did you install kubuntu-desktop cleanly ?02:36
andyAs far as I know02:36
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deFryskelkbuntu, someimes its easyer to ask for help in dutch ;)02:36
andyI entered: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:37
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elkbuntudeFrysk, to ask, sure. not always to receive answers ;)02:37
deFryskelkbuntu, howso ?02:37
wickedpuppyandy, then i ended without any errors ?02:37
joris_i can manage in english well, if i only could manage my wireless...02:37
elkbuntudeFrysk, more people = more potential answerers02:37
andyyep02:38
wickedpuppyandy, then you log out and log in ? hmms ... have youy rebooted though ?02:38
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andynno02:38
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andywas I supposed to?02:38
wickedpuppyandy, would you mind rebooting once ?02:38
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xavyou shouldn't need to02:38
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wickedpuppyyah02:38
andyok, Ill be back soon02:38
wickedpuppybut see if it solves ya problem02:38
xavbut well, I'm clueless to what the problem is so..02:39
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nickspooncan anyone here get at cvs.transgaming.org? it keeps timing out here.02:39
wickedpuppyxav, i learnt that "pls reboot ..." trick from helping windows users .. LOL02:39
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savvasI run rhythmbox and try to import my mp3 files (read-only ntfs partition), but it doesn't detect most of them, what do you think is the problem?02:39
wickedpuppyyou got no mp3 codec ?02:40
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savvaswell how come i play some of them wickedpuppy?02:40
alex_ubuntunickspoon; http://transgaming.org/cvs/02:40
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wickedpuppysavvas, no idea ... well first check if the partition is mounted properly .. then check the files permissions ...02:41
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PPAAUULLHow can I change my display depth to 24 bit?02:41
deFrysksavvas,  apt-cache search mp3 | grep gstreamer02:41
xavPPAAUULL, in /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:42
nickspoonalex_ubuntu: I still need cvs.transgaming.org to actually check out stuff.02:42
xavor maybe dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg allow to do that?02:42
PPAAUULLHow do I know if it will crash my display02:42
xav(that still edits xorg.conf)02:42
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savvasi'll try that in a while deFrysk, thanks, I'm currently downloading something else02:42
xavPPAAUULL, try it, and you will know02:42
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andyNo dice, I still get the error02:42
wickedpuppyPPAAUULL, save a copy first02:42
papabonjour02:42
PPAAUULLYa but what happens if my display crashes?02:42
wickedpuppyso in case it has error replace back02:42
papaby02:43
andyit says, when I log in, can't start kstartupconfig02:43
PPAAUULLOk so I save a copy and it crashes what do I do then?02:43
xavPPAAUULL, you use a tty02:43
wickedpuppyandy, now thats funny ... no idea there02:43
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tabm0deany one that has the same problem as me? i cant seam to use  in vi/nano/irssi when using ssh prorgam from windows the the box, but localy it works02:43
wickedpuppyPPAAUULL, you replace the new with the back-up xorg.conf ?02:43
andyis there any way to remove kde and all of its programs?02:43
PPAAUULLHow?02:43
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xavandy, using dapper?02:43
wickedpuppyPPAAUULL, you know how to do ls and mv and so on ?02:43
andyyep02:43
PPAAUULLYa02:44
PPAAUULLok02:44
wickedpuppythen mv back-up.xorg.conf xorg.conf ?02:44
alex_ubuntunickspoon; a brief under construction flashed then I was redirecter to the previous site I sent02:44
PPAAUULLxav what is a tty?02:44
xavandy, I don't think so02:44
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alex_ubuntunickspoon; a brief under construction flashed then I was redirecter to the previous site I sent02:44
DaynahPPAAUULL, that's a similar way I yell my boyfriend's name when I think I've lost him in the store.02:44
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wickedpuppyPacketScan, terminal ...02:44
andyok, maybe it will update and be fixed.. lol02:44
alex_ubuntuoops02:45
PPAAUULLoh ok02:45
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PPAAUULLthanks for the help02:45
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nickspoonalex_ubuntu: doesn't matter, I'll get an old version from SF.net.02:45
xavPPAAUULL, it's what you'll see if xorg fails to start02:45
alex_ubuntugood luck..02:45
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andyalso, when I shutdown and boot up, it now say kubuntu and is blue.  Can I change this back to the orange ubuntu?02:45
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xavandy, remove the kubuntu usplash theme02:46
nickspoonalex_ubuntu: disregard that, there's nothing there :)02:46
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andyxav, how?02:46
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DaynahI'd like to change my video driver from ati back to vesa but I have two driver sections in the xorg thing...02:46
xavandy, there is maybe a way to choose it02:46
DaynahI'm not sure which one to change02:47
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xavandy, does sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork work?02:47
andyIll try02:47
nickspoongah, I can't even ping cvs.transgaming.com!02:47
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marianethello02:48
wickedpuppyandy or system -> preference -> themes02:48
tabm0dewhere does the eth0 settings get stored at?02:48
wickedpuppyandy, btw you mean login window ?02:48
xavwickedpuppy, hm no, that's not the same theme02:48
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marianethello, does anybody can tell me how to set up ip fordwaring in an dhcp conextion to use amsn??02:48
andyno02:48
wickedpuppyoh okie02:48
xavtabm0de, /etc/network/interfaces maybe02:48
andywhen I actuall reboot, it has the progression bar02:48
xavandy, yes that s usplash02:49
andythe termminal said that there were no alternatives02:49
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xavandy, do you have ubuntu-desktop installed?02:50
andygnome? I am using it now02:50
phiberyo02:50
phibersup02:50
phiberwas wondering if anyone here has beryl ?02:50
wickedpuppy!beryl02:50
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.02:50
DaynahWhen I change from ATI back to Vesa, do I change the "driver" in BOTH of the "Device" sections? And what do I do to the rest of the sections (Identifier, for example, that says stuff about ATI)02:50
phiberi have compiz atm, tried to install beryl tho dunno if it works with this 64bit02:50
phibercos it died: |02:51
xavandy, try sudo update-initramfs -u02:51
wickedpuppyDaynah, i never use ati before so i can't help .. but if there isn't  lot to change then i suggest you back up and change one by one ...02:51
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DaynahWickedpuppy, if it doesn't work, how would I change it back?02:51
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xavDaynah, you can just edit the Driver02:51
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xavDaynah, why do you have several ones?02:52
andyok I did it with no errors02:52
DaynahI don't know02:52
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DaynahI didn't make the fine :)02:52
Daynahfile*02:52
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xavandy, what does "dpkg -l |grep splash" show ?02:52
wickedpuppyDaynah, can help us ? can complain ati about this ?02:52
wickedpuppymore people complain they will know linux has some of the desktop market02:53
andyit shows kubuntu02:53
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Daynahwickedpuppy, I've complained that linux needs better drivers02:53
boinkcomplain?02:53
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xavandy, only ?02:53
phiberyo where can i check the pc stats for tempreture02:53
DaynahWickedpuppy, I'm switching because I think the ati driver is making my computer freeze..02:53
boinkthe problem with drivers for linux is that companies don't want to cooperate02:53
xavandy, it doesnt show the ubuntu usplash theme?02:53
andyxav, yeah02:53
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wickedpuppyDaynah, eh complain to ati ... linux has no drivers if you think about it .. since drivers are supposed to come from the companies02:54
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xavandy, install ubuntu-desktop then02:54
Hexidigitalanyone know how to revert TvTime settings to default?02:54
boinkthe drivers shouldn't come from the companies02:54
Daynahwickedpuppy, that's who I did complain to..02:54
andyxav, reinstall it?02:54
troughtoncan anyone help i am having tubble with my wifi when i do iwconfig it says access point invalid02:54
wickedpuppyDaynah, thanks02:54
boinkatheros has been quite helpful with giving driver specs to open source development02:55
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Daynahboink, my card was free so...02:55
andyxav, I am already running gnome, so will it damage anything?02:55
boinkDaynah: which chip does it use?02:55
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thinklHmm -- the time field doesn't seem to be helping,but I do seem to have the culprit now... apt-index-watch... I'll take that question ubuntu-ward02:55
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American-TechDo you have windows installed to run wine? I assume that you do.02:56
thinkl(apologies--mixing my channels up -- making no sense)02:56
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troughtoncan anyone help i am having tubble with my wifi when i do iwconfig it says access point invalid any ideas ??02:56
Daynahboink, some intel. Honestly, you'd think if I built it I'd remember but it was like four years ago and I've built two more since so...02:56
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boinkthat's still the thing with any OS using Linux, you need to know these things02:57
mormolocwhen i try to install remove packages with synactic I get error package broken?02:57
xavandy, no it won't02:57
boinkesp. with the wireless02:57
DaynahHey! I see pictures on my monitor and they look like crap! It worked! Thanks guys :)02:57
mormolocwhat should i do?02:57
xavandy, but I don't have dapper, so it's harder to help, I can't look at the packages available and their deps02:57
Daynahmormoloc, are you connected to the internet at the time?02:57
mormolocyep02:57
andyxav, it sayed I have the newest version so it didnt go any further02:57
Daynahmormoloc, not to insult your intelligence but... you never know who you're talking to on the internet :)02:58
dixon2tvtime question: use synaptic- select tvitime choose completely remove, then apply, then choose install- this will bring up tvtime config02:58
mormolocDaynah: :)02:58
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binaticeHello everyone02:59
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Hexidigitaldixon2: thanks :)02:59
mormolocDaynah: my source.list files is meessed up02:59
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Daynahmormoloc, have you tried checking if your repos are right http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Repositories02:59
mormoloci think02:59
darichhey all02:59
Hexidigitaldixon2: re: tvtime question :)02:59
darichI have a problem....02:59
xavandy, try ls -l /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so02:59
darichwell a niggle really02:59
troughtoncan anyone help i am having tubble with my wifi when i do iwconfig it says access point invalid any ideas ??02:59
darichwhen I boot up my laptop(with wifi radar)02:59
darichI have to manually connect thru Wifi Radar to get an ip03:00
Daynahmormoloc, there you go! That's the basic set of them right there. Don't add anymore if they're messed up. If you think you have one you want to add, just for trouble shooting, take out and put it in a txt file and add them back one at a time.03:00
darichit doesn't happen automaically03:00
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darichI have searched the forums and tried multiple fixes03:00
darichbut nothing seems to work03:00
thinklAnyone know what apt-index-watch does?03:00
xavandy, and also ls /usr/lib/usplash/*.so03:00
darichit booted fine on my previous install of Dapper03:00
xavthinkl, man page does03:00
darichany suggestions are welcome03:00
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thinklxav: not exactly, but man apt-index-watcher does :)03:01
Daynahtroughton, I like your name. Ever watch doctor who? I've never used that wifi program, I'm sorry. I'm spoiled, what came with ubuntu worked for me... once I figured out how to work it. Give and take. Instead of typing the short "nickname" of the access point, I had to type in the long hex thing. Have you tried that? (again I've NEVER used the program, these are just things I tried on a different program)03:01
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binaticeI am having problems with double tabs opening in Firefox when I click on a link, has anyone else had this problem?03:01
mormolocDaynah: i think there are some wrong compiled dependacies by me03:01
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andyxav, ok I did both03:02
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mormolocthat is another problem plus the source.list mess03:02
Daynahmormoloc, the word "complied" is beyond me. It isn't in my vocab yet. Really, try just making a new source list03:02
mumblesany wine useres here ?03:02
troughtonDaynah my nickname is a take off of the second doctor as i am a big fan and i have hex turned off my wifi on my ruter is set open03:02
xavandy, I need to know what it shows03:02
LjL!anyone03:03
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?03:03
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mormolocDaynah: compiled :P03:03
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andyxav, for the first one it shows: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 2006-10-08 08:25 /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so -> /usr/lib/usplash/kubuntu-splash.so03:03
binaticeAny suggestions?03:03
andyxav, for the second it shows: /usr/lib/usplash/kubuntu-splash.so   /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-default.so /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so03:04
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Daynahtroughton, w00t! I didn't want to say something too geeky about the doctor first off incase, I dunno, youre name happened to be troughton. you say you have "hex turned off" try just it. Sometimes you have to try dumb stuff and go, "Hey that was a waste of 2 seconds. OH WELL" I couldn't get wifi in my house for 8 months before I broke down and wrote down the hex and tried it. And boy did I feel dumb03:04
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troughtonok i will try that03:05
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xavandy, so sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork should give you the choice between these03:05
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Daynahbinatice, I don't know... I just checked firefox pref and there is a "tabs" part. I didn't see anything related though. Gimmie a sec.03:05
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binaticeThanks Daynah03:05
andyxav, it ssays, no alternatives03:06
jribxav, andy: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so03:06
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jribandy: you'll have to run 'sudo update-initramfs -u' after changing that03:06
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Daynahbinatice, are you clicking with your middle button? Is your left click actually a middle click because linux has your mouse configed a bit weird?03:06
troughtonDaynah i dont mind looking geeky i am a geek computer and sifi03:06
MukiEXI'm trying to compile ffmpeg from latest source. Compiles fine, and I make a deb using checkinstall , but another program gives me a version error (apt-get -f uninstalls it); is there a way to disable that? Also, how do I install (using checkinstall/deb) the source, so that I can compile other programs that use it?03:06
Daynahbinatice, http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=2495404&sid=25be3cdb617582269579e59d384ea6b103:07
binaticeDaynah, That might be it because I am also auto-copy and pasting with the left button... How would I go about fixing that?03:07
Daynahtroughton, I have a tardis usb hub.03:07
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LjLMukiEX: it may be hard to fix it. please pastebin the output from dpkg... and about installing the source, not with checkinstall i'm afraid03:07
andyok, thanks I guys, I have things I must attend to now03:08
troughtoncool i want one03:08
MukiEXawww.03:08
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xavMukiEX, you may need to rebuild some packages against your new ffmpeg03:08
MukiEXI'm just trying to get the latest ffmpeg 'n vlc installed ^_^; I don't suppose there's ubuntu dapper nightlies, is there?03:08
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Daynahbinative, in that forum it was someone on windows (or that would have menchioned linux) so it's probably not that. Most programs wont register a middle click. So either you're accidently hitting it or like they say in that forum, your mouse is getting worn down. What do you think?03:09
bryanHey, I'm having a hard time installing ndisgtk and ndiswrapper...can anyone tell me how to get snyaptic to install the two (first time ubuntu user)03:09
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MukiEX(videolan's nightlies haven't been updated in months)03:09
LjLMukiEX: no, every version of ubuntu is frozen (i.e. no new packages) after release. there is the development version, Edgy, which will be released sometime this month03:09
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bryanI've tried the forum and its not helping03:09
macacoHello...03:09
Daynahhello!03:09
macacoI installed firebird2 on a ubuntu server03:09
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macacofirebird2 classic server03:09
lazzarethHow do I disable the sudo command for specific users on this computer? Im making a 'guest' ssh user for myself but i dont want anyone to get hold of the password then -> bam Got Root!03:09
LjLMukiEX: so basically, you're trying to compile VLC, but you need the latests ffmpeg includes for it to compile?03:10
MukiEXLjL : Well, non-official, I mean ^_^03:10
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macacoeverything has gone smoothly BUT I can't get it started correctly03:10
mumblesok - question is - im trying to install wine - and wt tools says theres a dependensie that isent being shared03:10
binaticeI think it's something with the mouse, unless the auto-copy and paste is normal in linux/ubuntu03:10
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macsimI have a  usb 3-3: device not accepting address 26, error -32, what's the pb ?03:10
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MukiEXLjL : Yup, but let me paste (not here) the ./configure error just so you know what I'm talking about ^_^03:10
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LjLMukiEX: sure03:10
macaco!firebir203:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about firebir2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:11
macaco!firebird203:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about firebird2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:11
boinkyou mean firefox2 ?03:11
macacofirebird2 the database03:11
bryanhow come when I use "make" command it tells me no such command?03:11
boinkok03:11
Daynahmacaco, cool! just to let you know, most people here use a desktop, so be patient to wait on your answer. There may be absolutely no one who knows at all!  But the  "tougher" your question is, the more patient you'll need to be to wait for that ellusive person who knows the answer.03:11
DaynahBoink, he's talking on a server03:11
boinkbryan: apt-get install build-essential03:11
jpjacobsbrynan,  install build-essentiial before trying to compile stuff03:11
boink!build-essential03:11
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)03:11
macacoand I'm receiving the following errors03:12
macacooperating system directive open failed03:12
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macacono such file or directory03:12
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macacoand...  unable to open database03:13
bryanIt asked me if I am root, I said yes AND  it just displayed a bunch of "y"s03:14
macacothat happens once i try to do this: gsec -user sysdba -password *****03:14
DaynahMacaco, have you tried posting this on the ubuntu forums? It will get more exposure and there's a whole section right here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=45 for servers where people who know servers will know what you're talking about. Most people who use ubuntu are desktop users, and we're just users helping out here, so we're on desktops and that's all we know! Try out there and you'll be surrounded by server people03:14
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macaco:S03:15
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mormolocDaynah: get this message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25971/03:15
macacois there any channel for servers?03:15
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superkirbyartistI am wondering if Mac version of Ubuntu supports only 1 button.03:15
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tabm0dehow do i change locales to ISO-8859-1 ?03:15
superkirbyartist1 mouse button, that is.  Or do I need 2?03:15
binaticeDaynah, yeah it's the mouse. When I use the touchpad on the laptop it works fine but when I use my usb mouse it goes screwy.03:16
Daynahmacaco, I'm not sure, sweetheart. I don't have a server, so I wouldn't have wanted to go there.03:16
superkirbyartistFor Mac.03:16
Daynahbinatice, GReat!03:16
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Shinku I just spent the last twenty minutes rubbing a twelve year old girl's bare chest.03:16
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DaynahMormoloc, then run apt-get! sudo apt-get ....install?03:16
Shinkushit03:16
Shinkuwrong channel03:16
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binaticeDaynah, now the question is how to get the usb mouse working?03:17
Daynahmormolic, yeah, I guess try sudo apt-get install03:17
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printk!locale > tabm0de03:17
Daynahbinatice, well... my mouse wore down and I bought a new one. Sometimes stuff that you roll and roll and roll and rub and rub and slam and wiggle just... wears down. Sorry to burst your bubble. I had a bad day my mouse died, too. I loved that mouse.03:18
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Daynahmormoloc, actually that was the dumbest thing I've ever said. I don't know what apt-get commandit wants you to do. Ask someone else. You've reached my knowledge threshold03:18
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macacoI found the answer on  the ubuntu forums... thank you daynah03:19
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Daynahbinatice, but when you get a new mouse PLEASE research it. I got this awesome logitech media mouse, it has like every button in the world... and there's no linux drivers for it. There's a way, if I'm hard core, that I can get half the buttons working. But I'm not hard core. So... I paid like $50 for a basic wireless mouse.03:19
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DaynahMacaco, great! The forums are a good resource. :) I love em! Hope you get it solved03:19
|thundermormoloc; you need verification keys from freecontrib03:20
binaticeDaynah, it's a relatively new mouse. I think it a driver problem. Can you help me fix, I am new to linux, as I am sure you noticed.03:20
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he-manI received an update via the updater for ubuntu edgy and now it doesn't work because the software index is damaged. Can help, please?03:20
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Zaggynllinuxdc++ should be put in the universal repository imho03:20
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|thunderDaynah; you just need to add some lines to xorg.conf to get more buttons working03:20
Daynahbinatice, probably not. :( Again, I couldn't install my mouse's drivers (but mine were hard core) some mice have easy drivers. Remember the name?03:21
he-manI did a sudo apt-get install -f but no way to correct it03:21
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humbolthow can I find non-dapper packages in synaptic again, so I can deinstall them before upgrade to edgy?03:21
binaticelogitech notebook optical mouse plus +03:21
Daynah|thunder, really? I looked it up after only using ubuntu for like 4 months, so maybe it wont look so scary now (in a week it'll be a year! w00t!) I think I had to compile something though. And compiling scares me.03:21
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reverHi I have been running Dapper and have been considering moving to Edgie. For you who have made the move have you noticed and differences in performace?03:22
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Daynahbinatice, try searching for "_____ ubuntu" on google or searching for that in the ubuntu forums. See what other people have done with it :)03:22
|thunderDaynah; nay, search ubuntu.com for instructions on getting a microsoft usb mouse working with added buttons. should be the same.03:22
Daynahbinatice, I'm sure a lot of people have that mouse also and if there's anything weird about it, SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE whined.03:23
boinkrever: edgie hasn't yet been released03:23
humboltsomebody one told me how to find those packages but I can't find the option in synaptic anymore!03:23
he-mancould anyone help me correct this error? software index damaged in ubuntu edgy. I did sudo apt-get install -f but no way, it doesn't work at all03:23
|thunderits beta03:23
Daynah|thunder, rock! I'll try it again :) , see binatice, I only LOOK like I know what I'm doing03:23
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boinkit should be released at the end of this month03:23
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|thunderhe-man; there is a flag to rebuild the apt-cache. cant remember what it is .  try looking in 'man apt-cache'03:24
reverboink, I know this but you can upgrade and help with bug reports and stuff. I did this with Dapper. I was just asking what people felt of the performance. I felt performance was better with Dapper of Hoary.03:24
he-manthunder: thanks03:25
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DaynahAnd I'm out! Remember peeps, if you get one question answered, try to stay so you can answer two. It's possible, people ask some pretty easy things (how to set up an email account in thunderbird?) and you'll know how to do it and help somebody's day!03:25
|thunderima stick with dapper for a while. till edgy is less. well. edgy03:25
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CokeNCodehey guys ... is the new flash for linux finally out03:25
CokeNCode coz i was just finally able to download03:25
CokeNCodeafter months of tyring03:25
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mormolocgot broken packages how do i fix/remove them?03:25
reverNo flash 9 is still in develoment03:26
reverA beta will be out soon per the website.03:26
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|thundermormoloc; man apt-get.   i think the flag is remove03:26
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deFryskmormoloc, try sudo apt-get -f install03:26
revermormoloc, apt-get install -f03:27
riochwhat is the current supported kernel version on ubuntu?03:27
mormolocrever: thanks03:27
he-man| thunder: And what should I do with apt-cache? Regenerate cache?03:27
|thunderhe-man; yeppers03:27
theplatypusAnyway to repair a failed upgrade to dapper? The power went out and I can't reach a terminal.03:27
reverrioch, 3.6.1503:27
reverrioch, 2.6.1503:27
revermormoloc, np03:27
|thunderLinux amd64 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 01:51:59 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux03:28
mormolocrever: i get this error message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25974/03:28
he-man| thunder: Unfortunately, it does nothing. :'( I don't know what I could do. I googled and found nothing useful03:28
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macsimjoin #ubuntu-fr03:28
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revermormoloc, What do you get when you do apt-get upgrade03:29
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mormolocwell it ok03:29
mormolocno error message03:29
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lusepusterHey there, got a little problem w a dist-upgrade03:29
revermormoloc, Sounds like you have no broken packages then03:30
lusepusterthat went ugly...03:30
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mormolocrever: synaptic doesnt think so03:30
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andyis there a list of all the apps that are in the repositories?03:31
elkbuntutheplatypus, try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f03:31
lusepuster...Upgraded from hoaryr to dapper and it alle went well in the end, except that EasyUbuntu and Automatix both think that I still run hoary! Where can I tewll them I don't?03:31
|thunderandy, yep. sudo synaptic03:31
mormolocrever: i think the problem is a rpm based openoffice vers 2.0.303:31
Richard_knoppmyth makes me go craaaaazy, hoping for a better experience with ubuntu + mythtv :)03:31
theplatypuselkbuntu: I can't use a terminal03:31
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bz0bhey room03:31
|thunderRichard_; you use iTv driver ?03:31
Juhazandy, packages.ubuntu.com?03:31
theplatypuselkbuntu: Can't as in can not access one03:31
mormolocrever: can't delete openoffice-common and base?03:32
Richard_|thunder,  I can't even install it03:32
bz0bis it true that ubuntuguide breaks your system?03:32
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elkbuntutheplatypus, ah. hmm..03:32
|thundertheplatypus; can you ctrl-alt-F6 to get a term ?03:32
Richard_can't use a usb keyboard for some reason :(03:32
oskudeandy, or without ubuntu http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/03:32
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bz0blike if i do a lot of the stuff on there, and use their repositories03:32
bz0bof is it okay03:32
andyok, thanks03:32
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rokohola03:32
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theplatypus|thunder: didn't try f6 just f203:32
|thunderRichard_; you need to enable an option in your cmos. i had to do the same03:32
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|thunderf1 -f603:33
Richard_what, legacy support?03:33
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|thunderno03:33
oskudeandy, or if you want a very very big list http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/allpackages03:33
|thundersomething else, cant remember the name. but legacy was an option.03:33
Dalikhow does one store login script in ldap so clients to execute on login?03:33
|thundermine has 3 options. none, something i cant remember, and legacy.03:33
Richard_well I can hit enter and boot, but not use my arrow keys to pick the installation method03:33
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|thunderRichard_; did you try legacy ?03:34
Richard_will double check while downloading dapper :P03:34
zool2005hi all, I've got an old laptop and running livecd but the screen seems to be much bigger than that I can see. I've tried changing the resolution but to no avail03:34
bz0bhey, i know the package network-manager-gnome fixes the ipw3945 to make it work03:34
revermormoloc, Why did you install an rpm of OO?03:34
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lusepustersorry for bumping, but... Upgraded from hoaryr to dapper and it alle went well in the end, except that EasyUbuntu and Automatix both think that I still run hoary! Where can I tell them I don't?03:34
bz0bbut on my lspci it still comes up as a unknown device is that cool?03:34
|thunderRichard_; make sure you download 6.06.1 not just 6.06. will save some downloads03:35
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mormolocrever: 1 month ago03:35
theplatypusbrb03:35
mormolocrever: why?03:35
LjLlusepuster: perhaps automatix is bad enough, and possibly easyubuntu as well, that installing them both is the farthest thing from a good idea that i can think of? :-P03:35
reverYeah why did you install rpm based and not use apt?03:35
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|thunderi try not to alien anything if I can help it.03:35
andyI am having problems.  Whenever I try and run a KDE app (I am under gnome) I get a DCOP Communication error.03:36
bz0b|thunder: if i change my repositories to edgy from dapper and do a apt-get dist-upgrade will that make it edgy03:36
mormolocrever: because i couldnt find the newest vers03:36
|thunderbz0b; not sure. ask in #ubuntu+103:36
bz0bk03:36
oskudebz0b, yes, and atleas in theory, 100% success ;)03:36
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lusepusterLjl: Know about the problems of Automatix, wanted to try EU first.  But still: It has worked painlessly on another box, it must be my dist-upgrade that somehow went ugly. Any idea?03:36
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boinkbz0b: sure, but remember edgy hasn't been released yet03:36
mormolocrever: im an new vers software freak :)03:37
humbolthow can I find foreign packages in synaptic?03:37
revermormoloc, Try aptitude install -f03:37
boinkit's still beta ... beta=pain03:37
|thunderdarned redhat users and their stupid current releases.   ;)03:37
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bz0bboink: but i mean will it upgrade it to the bet03:37
bz0bbeta*03:37
boinkwhy?03:37
boinkyou like pain?03:37
bz0boh yes03:37
revermormoloc, OO in the repo is only off by slight version.03:37
bz0bi love pain03:37
boinkok, then update to the beta03:37
bz0blol03:37
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oskudehumbolt, whats "foreign package" ?03:37
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boinkfix your /etc/apt/sources.list .. and update away03:37
dfree-msudo cat $conffile | sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' > $conffile <-- What should I replace $conffile with?03:38
SkramXhow can i have two different X "profiles" for when my laptop is standalone and another one for when I plug in my larger VGA LCD?03:38
mormolocrever: i know03:38
bz0bboink: well i mean i tested dapper when 5.10 was still stablel03:38
bz0band it wasen't thatb ad03:38
boinkit shouldn't be03:38
bz0bso how bad could edgy be03:38
boinkbut beta stuff is mostly for testing03:38
boinkheh .. you really want to find out, bz0b?03:38
bz0bwell yes im going to upgrade to full when it comes03:38
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mormolocrever: think is working:)03:39
bz0bboink: i reallly have nothing of extreme worth03:39
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Arafangionbz0b: The issue is when beta testers expect the same level of support as the release.03:39
Samuli^#ubuntu+1 for edgy questions.03:39
mormolocrever: thanks03:39
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boinkit's a good way to learn, bz0b03:39
bz0bboink: yes true03:39
|thunderhaha, this is awesome and totally off topic.03:39
bz0blol03:39
andy I am having problems.  Whenever I try and run a KDE app (I am under gnome) I get a DCOP Communication error.  Anyone know how to fix this?03:40
bz0bimo if its about ubuntu its on topic03:40
|thunderopen a webpage with lots of pictures and paste this in the addy bar (no quotes) "javascript:R=0; x1=.1; y1=.05; x2=.25; y2=.24; x3=1.6; y3=.24; x4=300; y4=200; x5=300; y5=200; DI=document.getElementsByTagName(%22img%22); DIL=DI.length; function A(){for(i=0; i-DIL; i++){DIS=DI[ i ] .style; DIS.position='absolute'; DIS.left=(Math.sin(R*x1+i*x2+x3)*x4+x5)+%22px%22; DIS.top=(Math.cos(R*y1+i*y2+y3)*y4+y5)+%22px%22}R++}setInterval('A()',5); voi03:40
|thunderd(0);"03:40
Arafangionbz0b: While devs expect (quite rightly), that beta (and developmental) releases are not intended for "newbies" that expect everything to "just work" - it may well, but those users should not expect teh same level of suppot.03:40
LjLbz0b: hm, not really. honestly i haven't followed the discussion, but on #ubuntu you're really just supposed to talk about #ubuntu *support* -- not just anything ubuntu-related03:41
Arafangion|thunder: Why would we do that?03:41
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|thunderbecaues it cool. makes all the images dance around. neato to say the least.03:41
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|thunderhey, i warned it was off topic. lol03:41
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msikmaHey all.03:42
SkramXanyone know?03:42
SkramXhow can i have two different X "profiles" for when my laptop is standalone and another one for when I plug in my larger VGA LCD?03:42
Arafangion|thunder: And here I am, making a 3D *game*...03:42
bz0bArafangion: i don't consider myself a newbie, but im not the greatest. like i did my own lfs install, gentoo install and everything worked without anyones help03:42
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bz0bArafangion: so does that qualify me03:42
Arafangionbz0b: Then you are not a newbie. :)03:42
Arafangionbz0b: But my statements still apply.03:42
msikmaWill gpart be able to erase a HFS+ partition and make it into a FAT32 partition while keeping another HFS+ partition on that same disk intact?03:42
bz0bArafangion: ok, cool03:43
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T0aDhello03:43
revermormoloc, did you try aptitude install -f03:43
oskudemsikma, you normally just delete 1 partition at the time, leaving other partitions untouched03:43
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JoelMaxhi03:43
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T0aDIm looking for some way to install ubuntu with floppy disks, a pcmcia network card and a network connection to the internet :)03:43
msikmaSo I'd delete the HFS+ partition, keeping the other HFS+ partition intact, and then create a new FAT32 partition with the unformatted space?03:43
JoelMaxhow install ubuntu on usb pen?03:43
andy I am having problems.  Whenever I try and run a KDE app (I am under gnome) I get a DCOP Communication error.03:44
Arafangionbz0b: Debian users has a particularly hard time with this, with so many clueless newbies trying to use debian unstable, just because it's got the latest and greatest, and then claiming that it's stable and always works well for them - when it's /not/ stable, heck, named "Sid" after the kid next door who breaks toys.03:44
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SkramXhow do i rerun the XOrg configurator?03:44
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ArafangionLjL: At a pinch, testing is ok, imho - because testing eventually becomes stable.03:44
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SkramX!fixres03:45
LjL*eventually* is probably the keyword ;)03:45
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:45
oskudemsikma, extacly, but theres allways risk when playing with partitions, so allways backup first!03:45
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|thunderSkramX; look in xorg.conf. it tell you there in the commets. be sure to backup.03:45
dfree-msudo cat $conffile | sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' > $conffile <-- What should I replace $conffile with?03:45
bz0b:-)03:45
bz0bnot if u leave the standard packages right?03:45
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ArafangionLjL: Heh, perhaps, but Unstable is /always/ unstable.03:45
|thunderdfree-m; a .conf file prolly03:46
oskudemsikma, and im not talking only about ubuntu partition tools, any, i mean on what ever os may break your partition table... but the risk is normally very very low...03:46
dfree-m|thunder yea, but just curious - what kind of .conf file ?03:46
|thunderno idea03:46
reverWhat is the CLI command to query if a package is installed and what version is installed?03:46
boinkman apt-cache03:47
boinkmaybe, if that's what you need03:47
oskuderever, one way is: dpkg -l | grep packagename03:47
Arafangionrever: dpkg -l packagename03:47
boinkas well .. I suppose03:47
reveroskude, Thanks03:47
reverArafangion, Thanks03:47
mumbles!ssl03:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ssl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:47
mumblesargh03:47
Arafangionrever: Or use aptitude.03:47
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mumbleshow do i ssh into a ubuntu box?03:49
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Rookie_ssh ip03:49
mumblesie wht ssl do i have to do03:49
Arafangionmumbles: ssh ubunto.box03:49
boinkssh -l username ubuntu.box.com03:49
xUnaBxmumbles : from where?03:49
mumblesinstall03:49
mumbleseven03:49
boinkapt-get install ssh03:49
mumblesforgotten the program03:49
Arafangionboink: I prefer user@host convention.03:49
xUnaBxmumbles : you need to install the ssh server03:49
mumblesah - i was going ssl03:49
ArafangionxUnaBx: Bit difficult without ssh ;)03:49
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xUnaBxhah :)03:50
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Razor-i just downloaded a torrent that is suppose to be avi and when i opened the folder it was a bunch of .daa files and now i cant watch it03:53
J-_does the nvidia driver for the GeForce FX 5200 work with S video in linux?03:53
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Homer!flash03:54
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:54
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Razor-what do i do in order to watch this movie if all i have are .daa files03:55
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oskudeRazor-, how can an avi be a folder ?03:55
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Drbluehi03:55
oskudeRazor-: and what is a .daa file ?03:56
Drbluehow are u03:56
J-_does the nvidia driver for the GeForce FX 5200 work with S video in linux?03:56
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Razor-no i got a torrent and the file in the torrent folder was suppose to be .avi format because it is a movie but when the download was finished i opened the folder and there were like 20 .daa files03:56
LinuxFan06No i opened the file in the file in die kirche.03:56
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oskudeRazor-: and what should "ubuntu" do about that ?03:57
LinuxFan06Wie sind gruen.03:57
Razor-I never saw that .daa file format and i wonder if it was a ubuntu file and what i should do about playing it03:58
LinuxFan06No i opened the file format and what i opened the file and there were like 20 daa files.03:58
oskudeRazor-: maybe you got scammed ? i never heard about .daa file neither...03:58
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LinuxFan06Ich darf nicht in the file in the file neither.03:58
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beastyis there a xgl channel ?03:59
LinuxFan06Ich darf nicht in the folder was finished i opened the folder and there a xgl channel.03:59
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oskude!op03:59
ubotuHelp! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!03:59
LinuxFan06Razor-? And what should "ubuntu" Do about that.03:59
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Hobbseeoskude: ?03:59
Seveasoskude, ?03:59
LinuxFan06No i opened the file in die kirche gehen.04:00
oskudeLinuxFan06: seems like a bot04:00
LinuxFan06Again a movie but when the file neither.04:00
Hobbsee!de04:00
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de04:00
LinuxFan06I don't know enough to answer you yet!04:00
LinuxFan06Razor-? Maybe you got a torrent folder and there were like a bot.04:00
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Seveasdefinitely a bot04:00
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Hobbseeah04:00
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Hobbseeindeed.04:00
oskudeand bot very intelligent one :)04:00
oskude *not04:01
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Seveasthat was the owner04:01
mikeymike-linux_well just so you guys know...... we got os-x running in harmony with ubuntu on the same drive04:01
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MikeyMike-Linuxall is well.04:01
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|thunderMikeyMike-Linux; ya, its nice huh, I've got xp, osx 10.4.7 and dapper tripple booting. i freaking love it.04:04
MikeyMike-Linux|thunder, on a pc or on a mac04:04
|thunderpc04:04
|thunderamd-6404:04
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MikeyMike-Linux|thunder, deadmoo image?04:04
|thundernope, name some others. i cant remember its been so long04:05
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MikeyMike-Linux|thunder, cant remember04:05
MikeyMike-Linuxnice to knwo you have it working04:05
MikeyMike-Linuxyou use aim or anyhting?04:05
MikeyMike-Linuxi have to leave but i want to keepin touch with you04:05
|thunderya, but im always idling here04:05
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|thunderalways04:05
MikeyMike-Linuxoh ok04:05
MikeyMike-Linuxme too04:06
MikeyMike-Linuxthen if i have an osx question maybe you can help me sometime :D04:06
|thunderhotiso04:06
|thunderthats it04:06
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MikeyMike-Linuxlol04:06
MikeyMike-Linuxi dont have to worry about the hackjob osx8604:06
MikeyMike-Linux:)04:06
|thunderi love it04:06
MikeyMike-Linuxi suppose its neat04:06
|thunderworks flawlessly04:06
MikeyMike-Linuxbut i have a real mac so its okay04:06
MikeyMike-Linuxhaha04:06
MikeyMike-Linuxdo you have tiger?04:06
|thunderand i didnt give steve jobs one red cent04:06
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|thundernot sure. 10.4.7   latest04:07
MikeyMike-Linuxthats tiger04:07
|thunderim not sure if that tiger or not.04:07
boinkc'mon boys, let's stay on topic04:07
MikeyMike-Linuxnice04:07
|thunder:)04:07
|thunderwaiting for 10.504:07
|thunderleopard or whatever04:07
|thundernot a mac guy04:07
MikeyMike-Linuxit's vaguely on topic :) we both are running ubuntu with it :D04:07
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gnomefreak|thunder: please take the mac os talk to #ubuntu-offtopic04:07
|thunderi done04:08
MikeyMike-Linux|thunder, yeah leopard is going to be nice.. lets not talk about it anymore cuz they're nazi-ing :D04:08
boinkit's good to hear that the g3,g4 and g5 work well on ubuntu04:08
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MikeyMike-Linuxheyyyyyyyy04:08
MikeyMike-Linuxi stopped!04:08
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savvaslol04:08
sysdoclol04:08
gnomefreakMikeyMike-Linux: the word nazi is not allowed in here04:08
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Seveaslet that be a warning for the rest04:08
gnomefreakoops too late04:08
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savvasserious?04:09
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savvaswhat's wrong with that word?04:09
boink#ubuntu isn't for idle chat04:09
tabm0dehow do if fix "/usr/bin/locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory04:09
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gnomefreaksavvas: it offends people04:09
boinkthere's #ubuntu-offtopic or something like that04:09
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savvasdepends on how you use it, eh04:09
mumbles.svn04:09
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mumbles!svn04:10
ubotusvn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/04:10
Seveassavvas, ask the few million people who died in the second world war what's wrong with it - end of discussion04:10
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gnomefreaksavvas: not at all savvas please read the coc and the guidelines04:10
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|thunderyou guys killed the conversation with all that04:13
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Caldhello04:13
Seveashi04:14
Seveas|thunder, it's amazing that there are 971 people in here and none are talking 04:14
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savvaschkrootkit packet says this: Checking `sniffer'... lo: not promisc and no packet sniffer sockets - eth0: PACKET SNIFFER(/sbin/dhclient3[3038] )04:15
|thunderagreed.  color me amazed04:15
savvasshould i be worried? :\04:15
bbrazilsavvas: no04:15
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|thunderheh04:15
Seveassavvas, no, that's normal04:15
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savvasah goody04:15
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gnomefreakSeveas: incomming pm i think04:16
savvasanybody cares to explain what's that dhcl 3? :P04:16
Caldwhen i use "mv * /foo/" dot files are not moved, how can i move all dot files of a directory plz ?04:16
toxiedoes anybody had some issues with freeradius and ubuntu04:16
Seveasgnomefreak, from who? You? 04:16
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davinHi guys, I need help configuring my XAMPP FTP-server, but I can't find an entry on the Ubuntu Wiki?04:16
jribCald: mv * .* /foo     ?04:16
gnomefreakSeveas: nope :)04:16
SeveasCald, mv .* /foo/04:16
gnomefreakSeveas: the banned guy04:16
Seveasgnomefreak, -ops04:16
Caldit doesn't include "." and ".." if i do ".*" ?04:17
jribCald: I think it complains about those two but completes anyway.  Do you happen to use zsh?04:17
toxiei`ve connected freeradius with mikrotik but only one user can be connected, when the 2nd user wants to connect it gets that the user is invalid04:17
SeveasCald, it does but mv will refuse to move . or ..04:17
toxiei know i should ask on freeradius channel, but04:17
Caldok04:18
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latsnodeis there any good speech recognition software for *nix?04:18
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ikkiehello i need some help with grub04:19
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|thunderi JUST read an article on digg yesterday bout that latsnode04:19
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|thundercant remember the name of the two apps04:19
latsnode|thunder, linkage please?04:19
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|thunderdigg.com04:19
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ikkiesomeone can help me with grub installattion on ntfs04:20
theplatypus|thunder : thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Everything seems to be in order now04:20
gnomefreakikkie: what are you looking to do with it04:20
ikkiegnomefreak please private04:20
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savvaschkrootkit runs automatically on as a cron job?04:20
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gnomefreakikkie: if i dont know the rest of channel might04:20
davinHi guys, I need help configuring my XAMPP FTP-server, but I can't find an entry on the Ubuntu Wiki?04:20
rokopleass help me ati 9250 configurate04:20
|thundertheplatypus; ok, what did i help with , lol, i cant remember04:20
ikkieohh yeh sorry04:21
gnomefreakbut grub on ntfs doesnt say much04:21
ikkieokke my problem is im running xp and ubuntu04:21
ikkienow i install xp04:21
gnomefreaknow ubuntu wont boot04:21
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theplatypus|thunder: Finally found my way to a usable terminal04:21
ikkieand grub boot menu is gone from ntfs partition04:21
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gnomefreak!grub04:21
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:21
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gnomefreakikkie: ^^^ please read that04:21
rokoati drive install for ubuntu 5.1004:21
|thundertheplatypus; ahh.   good  .   now I remember .04:21
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s1`_hi! my ALTGR stopped working04:22
s1`_where should i start looking?04:23
rokohelp pleas for configurate mi ati 9250 for ubuntu04:23
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davinsl`_: did you use startx from shell?04:23
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theplatypusWhat is the start command for UT2k4?04:24
dfree-mdavin I was wondering if you know anything about $conffile ?04:24
davintheplatypus: ut2004?04:24
s1`_davin, no04:24
davindfree-m: whats that? what are you trying to do?04:24
davinsl`_: run gconf-editor, go to metacity > global keybindings, see if its there04:24
theplatypuscan't remember if I installed it and can't remembeer the command04:25
Seveas!ati > roko04:25
theplatypuslol04:25
davinsl`_: if youre using gnome04:25
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s1`_davin, thanks!04:25
s1`_I am04:25
davinsl`_: anytime mate :)04:25
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dfree-mdavin I want to make my wireless connection work under Ubuntu, my wireless connection is supported under ndiswrapper .. I've installed ndiswrapper, and I'm half way it.. It says --> sudo cat $conffile | sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' > $conffile <-- What should I replace $conffile with? (I'm stuck in this only) Please help.04:25
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davindfree-m: the configuration file of the driver? sorry ive never used ndiswrapper04:26
davindfree-m: I have wireless at home but only for my laptops/wlan only machines, I use wired on my desktops04:27
|thunderdfree-m; thats just turning it on. try just iwup wlan004:27
davindfree-m: afk04:27
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|thunderer, ifup wlan0 that is04:27
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davvswhen i press capslock or numlock in gnome i get an error saying "An error occured while loading or saving configuration information for gnome-settings-daemon. Some of your settings may not work properly". How do i get rid of it?04:28
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|thunderdavvs; you do not have permissions04:30
|thunderdavvs; delete ~/.gnome and ~/.gnome2 while NOT logged into X04:30
dfree-m|thunder where can I find this configuration file (driver) ?04:31
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MilkyyHey, how do I make my ntfs-partition writable?04:31
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wickedpuppy!fuse04:31
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse04:31
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davvs|thunder, thats the entire settingsfile. i have much settings i'd like to keep04:32
savvaswhere's the application mail located?04:32
ArafangionMilkyy: Most people don't bother - instead using usb drives or network storage.04:32
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wickedpuppydavvs, then mv them to another name04:32
|thunderdavvs; well, you need to chown everything in there to yourself as root04:32
MilkyyArafangion, yes, but I don't have any of those...04:33
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yell8w hey guys how come i ca'nt access my other ext3 partition ? 04:33
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nicolawe04:33
wickedpuppyMilkyy, then read what ubotu says ..04:33
ArafangionMilkyy: A spare HDD? A spare patition?04:33
nicolaciao04:33
davvs|thunder, but i dont need to leave x for that do i?04:33
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Arafangion*partition04:33
jribyell8w: have you mounted it?04:33
yell8w i tried to mout it 04:33
yell8w it says it can't 04:33
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|thunderyes, some files might be locked.04:33
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jribyell8w: what command did you enter?04:33
MilkyyArafangion, nope04:33
wickedpuppyyell8w, how did you mount it ?04:33
Milkyyyes, wickedpuppy04:34
ArafangionMilkyy: Most people without either use a fat32 partition, which holds stuff "shared" between the two.04:34
yell8w well actually it was from nautilus 04:34
dfree-mis .sys the configuration file?04:34
sqoonhow i get a ubuntu cd04:34
MilkyyArafangion, okey04:34
yell8w i right click on the volume and hit mount it 04:34
wickedpuppysqoon, ubuntu.com ?04:34
|thunderhrm, anyone know how to chown everything in a dir recursivly ?   will 'find ~/. | chown name:name' work ?04:34
jribyell8w: oh, use system > administration > disks instead.  If you want to make it permanent, you'll need to edit /etc/fstab04:34
uterhi @ everybody -> Question can somebody helps me with cdd2iso ? (i am too dump to install it *G*)04:34
jeff_hannchown -R04:34
yipesqoon go to www.ubuntu.com and you can order free ones! 04:34
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ArafangionMilkyy: ntfs has been a real thorny issue for a very long time, btw.04:35
=== ikkie thnxx grub
|thunderuter what kind of package?04:35
yell8w jrib:  how would i go about doing that ? 04:35
jrib!fstab04:35
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yell8w ok 04:35
Milkyyyeah04:35
yell8w tx 04:35
|thunderdfree-m; you tried asking in #ndiswrapper ?04:35
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jribyell8w: you know about using sudo to edit system files?04:35
amonbishyo04:35
wickedpuppyuter, burning game iso ?04:35
^punishersup04:35
teekay_hello04:35
gh0ztHello04:35
str47Hi04:35
uter|thunder source code and i tried to ./configure - make but there is always an error because i dont have automake 1.604:35
yell8w nope 04:35
jribubotu: tell yell8w about sudo04:36
uter|wickedpuppy source code and i tried to ./configure - make but there is always an error because i dont have automake 1.604:36
wickedpuppyuter, sudo apt-get install build-essential04:36
Arafangionuter: sudo apt-get install build-essential04:36
Milkyycan't I just enabled it inthe kernel?04:36
Milkyythat's much easier.04:36
|thunder:)04:36
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MilkyyI believe there is such a setting there,,04:36
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ArafangionMilkyy: Because a free linux version doesn't exist.04:36
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Milkyy?04:36
ArafangionMilkyy: A /safe/, /complete/ linux version doesn't exist.04:36
uterArafangion i have the newest versions of this source04:37
ArafangionMilkyy: Rather, the rw version in the linux kernel has some rather significant restrictions on rw support.04:37
Arafangionuter: So?04:37
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|thunderok kids, play nice, daddy is going to bed,.        l8s04:37
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Milkyyoh well04:38
uterArafangion i have a img file but i want to change it into a iso file04:38
javi_hi, do you know how can I install a local package and then tell to aptitude about it is ok ?04:38
Arafangionuter: It's the same, unless the app that made it decided to do something really crazy.04:38
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Gabby_HayesHowdy04:39
Arafangionjavi_: A specific local package? Just dpkg -i package.deb04:39
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Tru7hI'm having problems booting up Ubuntu from my live CD.04:39
javi_but when I open aptitude, it will want remove this package because I did a --force-depends instalation04:40
teekay_confidential04:40
Tru7hIt almost completely loads, but once the little button in the bottom right appears, the process seems to halt.04:40
^punishersecret04:40
amonbishout of interest04:40
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anon32does anyone know how to ban an IP range in firestarter?04:40
Gardahey, does ubuntu come with proprietory display drivers?04:40
anon32Garda, no04:41
Gardaso opengl doesn't work?04:41
Gabby_HayesGarda  .. what is your display, LCD?04:41
Arafangionjavi_: Why the hell did you use --force-depends?04:41
Gardasorry, i meant video card drivers04:41
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anon32Garda, again, no04:41
ikkieubuntu on intel dual  core (who knows how)04:42
Gabby_Hayesgadek  .. ok, then what kind of video card do you have?04:42
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javi_why nautilus had a dependence problem, it has mark like '=' and not like '>=' ...04:42
ArafangionTru7h: How much memory do you have?04:42
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sysdocGarda, what video card do ya have?04:43
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Arafangionjavi_: Are we talking distinct packages, or repos?04:43
gnomefreakjavi_: is that depends your looking at gnome or ubuntu-desktop?04:43
Tru7hI actually don't know, it's been awhile since I've used this one particular computer. How much memory is required?04:43
Gardaati raedon 960004:43
|thunder-afk198 me tihnks04:43
Tru7hIt boots up Windows XP just fine, so I don't imagine the memory's the problem.04:43
Gardathe ati drivers for linux are hard to install properly04:43
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ArafangionTru7h: That's a bit on the low side for live cd's (One disadvantage of this form of installer)04:44
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anon32Garda, that's covered by the free drivers... ATI's drivers are buggy and crash stuff04:44
ikkieubuntu on intel dual  core (who knows how)04:44
ArafangionTru7h: /try/ the xubuntu ones.04:44
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sysdocGarda, you should see the forum for a howto04:44
javi_mm i had askde on #debian because I'm on sid, but they didn't answer to me, so I probe with ubuntu channel04:44
gnomefreakjavi_: im looking in apt-cache show nautilus and i dont see anything with == to it04:44
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Tru7hArafangion: I actually was thinking of doing that, I just downloaded the ISO.04:44
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Gardaanon32: so xgl and compiz and games like UT and quake will work with free drivers?04:45
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ArafangionTru7h: xfce uses significantly less memory.04:45
MissLadywhen i try to install xchat_2.6.6-0ubuntu_i386.deb with package installer nothing work... i've the status msg: Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: xchat-common... can anyone help me please ?04:45
jodyhey can anyone tell me what package the "strings" utility is in?04:45
gnomefreakjavi_: thats why ubuntu has depends debian doesnt and vice versa04:45
dfree-mMissLady How are you downloading it?04:45
apokryphosjody: strings? Anyhow, packages.ubuntu.com04:45
jribjody: binutils, should get isntalled with build-essential04:45
MissLadywith firefox04:45
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alesdocho provato ma niente04:45
jodyI've tried that nothing comes up04:45
gnomefreakjavi_: that is something you need to ask in #debian04:45
Arafangionjavi_: They were right to.04:45
dfree-mMissLady type this in terminal -> sudo apt-get install xchat04:45
jodyand apt-cache search04:45
dfree-m:-)04:45
Gardajody: i think binutls04:45
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jodythx04:46
Arafangionjavi_: The theory is, if you know how to use Sid, then you know how to fix it yourself.04:46
Gardajody: *binutils04:46
apokryphosalesdoc: English only in here, please04:46
Arafangionjavi_: Sid is called "unstable" for a reason.04:46
yappo_Hey I need help enableing the multiverse or universe repositories, because I cant install the g stream plugin for Firefox.04:46
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apokryphosyappo_: please read the FAQ04:46
Arafangionjavi_: Heck, the name "Sid" is chosen because that's the name of the "boy next door who breaks toys", which is very metaphorical, as sid does break.04:46
jodyGarde: thx a ton!04:46
MissLadydfree-m thx a lot :) heee last question.... does it the best irc client to chat under linux ?04:46
jodyerr Garda04:46
Gardaahh wait, apokryphos already answered04:47
javi_or, yes it is the theory, but I had this dude, how can I tell apt system about debs packages locally installed are ok ...04:47
Gardayea jody it's spelt binutils04:47
dfree-mMissLady I like xchat :-) (It's a matter of personal choice) .. But I like it :-)04:47
niki_!mp304:47
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MissLadydfree-m k hehe thx04:47
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dfree-mMissLady anything else ?04:47
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MissLadydfree-m yes.... wich prog is compatible with msn messenger ?04:48
javi_i know, about sid means ... but sure apt can know about skip these dependence problems ..04:48
MissLadydfree-m because i've friends under msn on window04:48
dfree-mMissLady gaim , amsn :-)04:48
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MissLadydfree-m thanx a lot :)04:49
dfree-mMissLady gaim is installed by defalt04:49
dfree-mdefault *04:49
dfree-mMissLady Gaim has icq,aim,msn,irc :-)04:49
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heroinHi can someone help me04:49
heroinsome one has been trying to hack into my server04:50
Rookie_just ask the Q04:50
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heroini have 2 login attempts every 3seconds for the last day04:50
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heroinOct  7 15:20:43 drake vsftpd: (pam_unix) authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty= ruser= rhost=83.17.168.14204:50
heroinOct  7 15:20:49 drake vsftpd: (pam_unix) check pass; user unknown04:50
heroina lot of things like these04:50
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heroinso how do i ban some one from trying to login04:51
MissLadydfree-m okay nice, i didn't know i'm new in linux world :)04:51
Rookie_thats not an hack the the server, thats an attempt to get into the ftpd04:51
heroinROokie_ so is this a problem or not?04:51
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heroinRookie_ is this a problem or not? iam very concerned atm :)04:51
Gabby_Hayesdfree-m  .. is gaim compatible with  Yahoo IM  ?04:52
Rookie_Yes, fptd is evol - but within every ftpd you can spec. who can connect ....and if they get in they get what that user have ...04:52
MissLadydfree-m have a nice day, i'll try what you told me :)04:52
CiausGabby_Hayes, Yes04:52
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Gabby_Hayesthxs04:52
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Ciausannd sametime too04:53
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Rookie_check your *.conf file and set the right users to have the permissions to login, set no anonymous too04:53
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heroinRookie_ how can i ban this 1 IP adress?04:54
heroinor is this within some conf file for vsftp?04:54
Rookie_you can do that within your firewall04:54
Rookie_but i would report him to his isp04:54
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Rookie_send the logfile too to the isp as proof04:55
Woos876Hi. when the next version of ubuntu will be available ?04:55
yell8w !firewall 04:55
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yell8w lol 04:55
Ciaus!topic04:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:55
yell8w hey guys what's a good GUI for a firewall 04:55
yell8w uhm iptables 04:55
LjL!shorewall04:55
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)04:55
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yell8w ok so firestarter it is then 04:56
LjL"probably"04:56
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Azid0i updated to the new ati driver, from sypnatic, now the X is not loading  and im getting this message (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module requirement mismatch, 0)04:57
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pm!restrictedformats04:58
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yell8w hhmmm so i won't have to configure programs access and such as with windows ? 04:58
heroinRookie_ how do i ban him from my firewall iam host a very small network server with only port 21 open for FTP :S04:58
aFxhttp://nb.sakuragi.org/~sakuragi/desktop/Beryl.avi <---  this is desktop of Ubuntu04:58
Rookie_use iptables - use "DENY"04:59
heroinRookie can u PM me?04:59
Rookie_nope, no time for pm too04:59
Rookie_to many channels for that04:59
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heroinRookie_ ok so how do i start my IP tables?05:00
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Rookie_read more about iptables at www.iptables.org - also, see shorewall in ubuntu05:00
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Rookie_!shorewall05:00
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Rookie_!iptables05:01
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) For more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo05:01
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treoraHola05:02
valehruWhats the best program to use that is like google desktop?  i.e. search contents of files etc?05:02
CaptainMorgansystem -> find05:03
linuxphotogeekValehru - deskbar05:03
mneptonor try Beagle05:03
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ompaultreora, you got a new provider yet?05:04
ompaulwoops sorry offtopic05:04
heroinRookie_ i will read up on all this but how do i ban the ip adress of 83.17.168.142 ?05:04
dyn-afkdeskbar with beagle will do valehru :)05:04
spuddoggDoes anyone know if Ubuntu can handle USB 2.0?  I remember back in my Winblows days that if I had a device that was USB 2.0 and plugged it into a regular USB port, the OS would just tell me that it will not run as fast as possible.  Now, in Ubuntu, I have a USB 2.0 device, and it will not work at all, as my laptop is old and does not have USB 2.005:04
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treorawhat would cause a fresh install to see the local router but not beyond where other machines on the LAN can?05:04
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ompaulspuddogg, usb 2 should work I have seen it work05:05
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Dr_Fateanyone using the transparencies with their xgl?05:05
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Rookie_heroin - you can do that by 2 ways, either in the conf file of the ftpd or by the firewall, banning within the ftpd will only ban him/her from the ftpd but to ban by the firewall will ban him from your entire system05:05
spuddoggompaul: The thing is, my laptop does not have USB 2.005:05
treoraspuddogg - I have a usb device hooked up to it at the mo05:05
spuddoggtreora: is it a USB 2.0 device?05:05
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yell8w hmmm how would i know that the firewall is running 05:05
treorayep05:06
yell8w i don't see any thing in system monitor 05:06
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Azid0i updated to the new ati propietary drivers from sypnatic, now the Xserver is not loading  and im getting this message (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module requirement mismatch, 0)05:06
spuddoggtreora: does your computer advertise USB 2.0 though?  My laptop is old and it does not05:06
heroinRookie_ how can i do the whole system?05:06
heroinRookie_ with iptables *?05:07
Rookie_i have done that this way05:07
Rookie_$IPT -A FORWARD -s <ip_to_ban>/13 -d $INTIP -j DROP05:07
treoraIt was a XP box that took usb 2.0 devices and is now ubuntu05:07
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ompaulspuddogg, talk to the maker of the device to ask them how to get it to drop down to talk with 1.105:08
apokryphosa simple iptables -I INPUT -s {IPADD} -j DROP should do it05:08
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apokryphosand s/-I/-D/ to drop the ban05:09
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Rookie_so if you like you can do it this way right now - /path_to_iptables -A FORWARD -s 83.17.168.142 -d your_ip -j DROP05:09
heroinapokryphos ur confusing me :)05:09
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apokryphosheroin: which part's confusing?05:09
heroinapokryphos iam a very VERY modest small network admin who has a TINY ftp homerun server and its being hacked05:10
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heroinand i dont know my path to my IP tables05:10
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apokryphosheroin: iptables is in your PATH already, you don't need to know it05:10
Ampsonicquick question, what is the command to check to see if ubuntu is finding both cores of my processor?05:10
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OXIjHallo. Any one knows GPL online action game? (not Nexuiz)05:11
savvasum does ubuntu include nvidia graphics drivers?05:11
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ompaul!nvidia > savvas05:11
apokryphossavvas: please read the FAQ05:11
ompaulsavvas, that is how you deal with nvidia un Ubuntu (the message from the bot)05:11
savvasdanke :P05:11
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Rookie_type follow line ; /sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -s 83.17.168.142 -d  82.171.74.86 -j DROP05:12
Tru7hArafangion: Xubuntu didn't work, either. It wouldn't even boot up as far as Ubuntu did; it locks up and says "buffer I/O error on device HDD".05:12
Rookie_afk05:12
heroin IPT -A FORWARD -s 83.17.168.142 -d 82.171.74.86 -j DROP <-- so this would ban IP 83.* from connecting to 82*05:12
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kishoreubotu, restricted formats05:12
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:12
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heroinok thanks rookie05:12
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Rookie_you ban him/her from your ssytem, he or she can still apear in your log but he can not access your server on anyway with that ip05:13
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Hoxzercan I somehow make shell script to "press" buttons?05:13
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heroinRookie_ thanks. i never thought anyone was going to hack my system05:13
profoX`my gtk themes dont want to change anymore... they change some settings, but the menubar, scrollbar, buttons stay the same...05:13
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Ampsonichow can I check how many cores my system is using?05:14
heroinRookie_ and apokryphos thanks05:14
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gnomefreakHoxzer: what do you mean press buttons?05:14
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arishi people05:15
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Led_Zeppelinhow do I control start up processes in Ubuntu?05:15
KDanheroin: running a tiny server will not protect you from being hacked by random skiddies05:15
Led_ZeppelinIs there a tool? or is there a document on how to configure rc.d processes?05:15
heroinKdan yah :( SAD SAD people sometimes, and i only have port 21 open05:15
KDanhow do you know that? have you set up your iptables to keep only that open?05:16
heroinKdan you know of a deamon which will email me log reports05:16
jondufHi, I am going through a kernel module tutorial and am having trouble compiling it. gcc complains that I do not have linux/module.h in my include directory. I checked and it is indeed not there, I search all through synaptic to find the package that might have this file and can not find it. Does anyone know what I need to apt-get?05:16
arisi'm trying to copy my files to a lan rsync server... rsync aris/ aris@192.168.1.51::/media/hda1/ doesn't work.. it says it misses a module. But i want *not* to use ssh05:16
Rookie_with nmap you can check what ports are open05:16
KDanheroin: swatch is a log monitoring tool05:16
heroinKdan i have a hardware firewall which honly forwards port 2105:16
kishoreLed_Zeppelin, install bum --startup manager05:16
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KDanheroin: hw firewall or a router?05:16
Led_Zeppelinkishore: no bum in for AMD6405:16
heroinKDAn router05:17
Led_Zeppelinapt-cache search bum05:17
Led_Zeppelinshows nothing05:17
Hoxzergnomefreak: nail requires "ctrl+D" to send a mail and I want it to send it automatically by the script05:17
jokoonIs there custom icons packs for ubuntu ? If I want to replace with silk from famfamfam.com how do I do ?05:17
kishoreoh05:17
kishoreenable universe repositories and try05:17
gnomefreaki dont see why not but i have never wrote a script for that05:17
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heroinKdan swatch can also email me some report and alert when multi  failed logins accour?05:17
KDanheroin: then suggest you sort your iptables so that you indeed do drop everything that's supposed to be closed, no matter if it's not supposed to come through the router05:17
kishoreLed_Zeppelin, enable unvierse repositories and check ones05:17
mineraledoes anyone here listen to "Wait Wait Don't tell me" -- An NPR show? I know they have a podcast and it's available through itunes... but is there someway I can subscribe to the podcast in ubuntu?05:18
jimbiis there a faster pdf readerthan the default?05:18
KDanheroin: afaik swatch can do pretty much anything you want it, but it takes effort05:18
heroinKdan i would but i will read up on this sometime05:18
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heroinKdan effort is ok my gf is playing Call Of Duty anyway :P05:18
KDangood luck :-)05:18
Led_Zeppelinkishore: okay, but these packages aren't supported by Ubuntu team05:18
KDanlol05:18
yell8w xpdf ? 05:18
kishoreLed_Zeppelin, hey.. no probs with it05:18
Led_Zeppelinkishore: ok05:18
Led_Zeppelinkishore: its there.thanks05:19
heroinKdan i was just a bit shocked cuz i have this dutch magazine and they were talking about security tips for a root server and well who knew i was beeing tested :)05:19
KDanheroin: welcome to the endless futile arms-race05:19
Tru7hShould I get amd64 or i386?05:19
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jimbiThanks yell, possably Id better just look around05:20
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heroinKDan yah :) well i just have a small FTP server dont care to much about it but i dont want network to suffer when people are downloading from it :P05:20
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kmastahow do I type an "o" with an ` over it, I know in windows its just alt+162,05:21
nitro89esiste ubuntu italia?05:21
nitro89ciao a tutti05:21
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deFrysk!it05:21
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!05:21
aTypicalAre there really 974 people in here!?!  My goodness.05:21
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matteo81ciao05:22
matteo81hello05:22
LjLhi05:22
LjL!it05:22
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!05:22
GreG36Hullo. Am I in the right channel if I have a question bout ubuntu?05:22
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LjLGreG36: it says "official ubuntu support channel", so... yes :)05:22
GreG36Jus makin sure... ;)05:22
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Tru7haTypical: There is. But out of all 974, nobody can tell me whether I should download i386 or amd64. :P05:23
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GreG36Alright, Ive been looking everywhere. I installed a package for adobe flash player.05:23
aTypicalTru7h, what kind of processor do you have?05:23
GreG36MY friend told me to use the Synaptic thing to install it, but it wont show up.05:23
haffeHello. I have some troubles installing ubuntu. Grub as default seems to install to /dev/hda, however /dev/hda on my machine is a dvd-RW. Earlier on the installer asked where to install grub, but that does no longer seem to be the case. What should I do about it?05:23
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kmastaGreG36, are you on an AMD64 platform?05:24
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GreG36Yes.05:24
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Tru7haTypical: Intel, I forget which specifically.05:24
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kmastaexcellent tutorial on setting up firefox with flash ------> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=117443505:24
heroinKdan i wish to submit a complaint to the ISP of the guy who was harassing my server.. he is some polish person but his ISPs website is in polish any suggestions?05:24
aTypicalTru7h, if you have an Intel processor you want the i386 download05:24
Tru7haTypical: Thanks.05:25
kmastaGreG36, excellent tutorial on setting up firefox with flash ------> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=117443505:25
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valehruanyone know of an uploading tool for flickr.com in ubuntu05:25
GreG36kmasta: thanks.05:25
Tru7hI can't seem to get either Ubuntu or Xubuntu onto this piece of crap, no matter what I try.05:25
Micksaokay, so for some reason my laptop has an idle hdd spindown timeout of about 5s05:25
Micksait's too short. where should I be looking to fix that?05:25
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aTypicalTru7h, what05:27
jester45could anyone please help me make a dvd from a MPG the mpg video file conforms to ntsc05:27
aTypicalTru7h, what's the problem you're having?05:27
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ryan__Howdy05:28
jester45hi05:28
Tru7hI'm trying to install from a live CD. Ubuntu boots up pretty well, all the way to the desktop, but once that little button in the bottom-left corner appears, it seems to halt.05:28
Tru7hI figured there wasn't enough memory, so I tried Xubuntu... that halts in the boot process saying "buffer I/O error on device HDD".05:28
Tru7h@aTypical05:29
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aTypicalHmm.  Sorry, but I've not experienced that kind of error while trying to install.05:29
Tru7hThat's okay, thanks for the help. :)05:29
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aTypicalI'm sure someone in here will be able to help you.05:30
Tru7hProbably, but they're hiding right now. :P05:30
aTypicalYeah.05:30
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aTypical:-)05:31
ryan__I wasnt even aware you could install from the live disk.05:31
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jimbiI have strange problem with the hard drive, I have one file on a partition when i ask ubuntu the size of the file there is a large diffence between it's size and the space used on disk, how can i fix this?05:31
krangA'ight, I need to install WinXP on my Ubuntu box (sorry, but it has to be done), and was wondering what it is likely to do. I assume it'll break grub and put in it's own bootloader which doesn't mention linux. How would I reinstall grub after I'm done?05:31
GreG36kmasta: i jus tried to run the installer in terminal, like the instructions indicate and it gave me an error.05:31
GreG36kmasta: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the05:32
GreG36       Macromedia Flash Player installer.05:32
KDanheroin: don't bother with that... it's probably not even the polish guy who's hararssing your server - probably he got hacked by the guy who's harassing your server05:32
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mneptonTru7h: try burning the CD again at no more than 4x speed05:32
kmastaGreG36, just follow the instuctions as close as you can05:32
Tru7hmnepton: I'll try that. I believe this CD worked in other computers, though I can't be sure.05:32
GreG36kmasta: they said to navigate to the directory, and i did. then it said to type the command line ./flashplayer-installer.05:33
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jester45ryan__: thats why the live cd is for testing it then to install05:33
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mineraledoes anyone here listen to "Wait Wait Don't tell me" -- An NPR show? I know they have a podcast and it's available through itunes... but is there someway I can subscribe to the podcast in ubuntu?05:33
Ampsoni1anyone here know anything about "network manager"?05:33
mineraleor rather- how can I subscribe to podcasts in ubuntu05:33
kmastaGreG36, don't they also say something about ignoring the message of "wrong acrchitecture"05:33
krang!grub05:34
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:34
Rookie_!slackware05:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about slackware - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:34
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GreG36kmasta: Meh. I installed from the folder, not the package... :-P05:34
Tru7hLazy bot. :P05:34
GreG36kmasta: I jus didnt read far enough down. Sorry.05:34
Ampsoni1what's the best way to tell if my ati graphics are working to there full potential?05:34
kmastaGreG36, go through the whole thing first05:34
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jimbiok is there a tool to fix the partition table?05:35
LSD`probably a n00b question but I don't really care at this point since I'm || this close to nuking Ubuntu, but why does sudo reject a root password I know I'm entering 100% correctly?05:35
Rookie_gparted05:35
Rookie_!gparted05:35
ubotugparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php05:35
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XappeLSD`: you should use your regular password with sudo05:36
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LSD`Xappe: it rejects that too05:36
Micksawhat does it mean if you go "/etc/init.d/laptop-mode stop; hdparm -S 0 /dev/sda" and your hard drive still spins down all the time?05:37
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jimbiThanks rookie_, we will see05:37
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XappeLSD`: are you a member of the admin group then? I think only the first user created during installation is added to admin05:37
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LSD`Xappe: there is only one other user and I'm pretty sure it was created along with the install. I'll check anyway if its in the admin group05:38
JackofalltradesHello05:38
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javi_thanks you, finally I apt-get source nautilus and rebuild it, it works fine with dpkg -i05:38
Ampsoni1dumb question, ubuntu is gnome or KDE?05:38
javi_bye05:38
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archvilleHi.05:39
GreG36kmasta: Now it gives me an error saying "   subo: linux32: command not found    "05:39
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GreG36sudo*05:39
JackofalltradesHow do I find what directory my VLC player is in?05:39
jimbiAmp i think it's KDE05:39
josh_hello all. is there a chat for ftp does anyone know?05:39
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gh0st333test05:39
josh_or does anyone in here happen to use proftpd?05:39
kmastaGreG36, make sure you typed your command in correctly, I commonly miss the second "l" when typing "install"05:40
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GreG36kmasta, I copied and pasted the command from the website you gave me. Is that a no-no?05:40
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StellarPrincehi05:40
josh_Jackofalltrades: probably in /usr/bin || /usr/sbin05:40
josh_or /usr/share/bin05:41
kmastaGreG36, sometimes there are formating issues05:41
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StellarPrincewhat is the default CPU governator?05:41
GreG36kmasta, okie.05:41
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LSD`Xappe: I have no "admin" group on my system exactly, is "adm" the right group?05:42
JackofalltradesAH ha. there it is thanks05:42
josh_np05:42
XappeLSD`: hmm, you should have an admin group05:43
Jackofalltradesfor future referance how would I search for something?05:43
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CiausJackofalltrades, locate works pretty weel for me05:43
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Ciauswell*05:43
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LSD`Xappe: cat /etc/group | grep admin only return lpadmin05:43
aTypicalJackofalltrades, slocate is also good.  ;-)05:43
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heroinwhere is the config file for swatch05:43
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XappeLSD`: by default users that belong to the admin group is allowed to use sudo05:44
LjLheroin: i don't know, perhaps type "dpkg -L swatch" and see if you can find it.05:44
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heroinok05:44
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Jackofalltradeshmm...nether did anything.05:45
LSD`Xappe: for some reason, there is no admin group on this system. It's a 6.06 LTS "Dapper Drake" system if that means anything05:45
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GreG36kmasta, I dunno what I'm doing wrong, but it still keeps having errors.05:45
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XappeLSD`: i'm using both dapper and edgy, and both have the admin group. You maybe could try to add that group by booting as single user05:45
kmastaGreG36, keep messing around with it, it took me a day or two to get everything to work right, actually I still don't have things working perfectly05:46
patconnexiontest05:46
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XappeLSD`: and add yourself to that group05:46
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mineraleis edgy eft still going to use GRUB legacy, or are they switching to grub2 ?05:46
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swamytkHi, I am new to IRC. this is my first ever IRC chat05:46
LSD`Xappe: why boot to single usewr mode? o.O05:46
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XappeLSD`: if you don't have root access05:47
GreG36kmasta, Lol. All I want to do is view videos and get rid of the plug-in messages on web sites.05:47
miloseviccongrats? :P05:47
kmastayea05:47
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LjLminerale: the package description talks about "research project", "EXPERIMENTAL", and that sort of things. so not very soon, i'd assue.05:47
kmastaGreG, I can watch you-tube so I'm happy for the most part05:47
LSD`Xappe: ungimping root access was one of the first things I did ;)05:47
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milosevici can watch youtube too05:47
milosevicbut spikedhumor.com always gives me problem with flash05:47
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XappeLSD`: then you don't need to boot to single user05:48
weirdolinohi. i have a problem with the ubuntu dapper desktop cd. i installed from that cd on 2 different pcs before but on my new pc it won't boot. when it gets to the point "mounting root file system" it hangs and returns: "hda: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handle on exit". my pc: pentium 4 3.2GHz, board is an asus p5gpl. can anyone help me?05:48
Xappe;P05:48
maxLFHow do you install the source package of wine?05:48
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milosevicso I download the video and play it from my machine :P05:48
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LjLmaxLF: you *get and build it* it by typing "sudo apt-get -b source wine". then, if the compile goes well, a binary package will appear, which you can install with dpkg ("dpkg -i nameofpackage.deb")05:49
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LSD`Xappe: manually adding it didn't work, what's the GID on the group supposed to be?05:49
maxLFthanks LjL05:49
XappeLSD`: mine is admin:x:113:jon05:49
LjLmaxLF: if you want to install the needed dependencies automatically, you can also type "sudo apt-get build-dep wine"05:49
LSD`Xappe: let me try that05:49
heroini cant find the freaky swatch config file05:50
maxLFLjL: I'm trying to get World Of Warcraft to work in Linux, and it says it needs the source version of wine, and  I did what you told me to sudo apt-get -b source wine and it gave me an error05:50
maxLFmax@trogdor:~$ sudo apt-get -b source wine05:51
maxLFReading package lists... Done05:51
maxLFBuilding dependency tree... Done05:51
maxLFE: Unable to find a source package for wine05:51
LSD`maxLF: you following redeemans thingo?05:51
maxLFLSD`: Yeah.05:51
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LjLmaxLF: i suppose you don't have the relevant source repository enabled. you need the Universe source repository.05:51
XappeLSD`: i guess you could just edit sudoers, and add your user (visudo)05:51
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maxLFLjL: I have the universe and multiverse repositories05:52
kmasta!lmsensors05:52
ubotuYou might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto05:52
LjLmaxLF: anyway, i'm not sure how that will help you running WoW, since you'll just get the same wine that already comes binary packaged05:52
Richard_I'm trying to install mythtv on dapper, but I cant find any packages! :(05:52
LjLmaxLF: the *source* lines for them, too?05:52
LSD`Xappe: or I could just nuke Ubuntu, which was what I was planning to do anyway ;)05:52
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LjLheroin: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=swatch&version=dapper&arch=all  <-- apparently, the package only contains example config files05:52
maxLFLjL: I'm not sure I'm just using the turtorial.05:52
GreG36kmasta, Should I start at the top of that Howto and do everything exactly as he does? Or just skip to the Flash part?05:52
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deFryskmaxLF, apt-get build-dep wine05:52
XappeLSD`: well, that's your choice ;)05:52
LjL!tell maxLF about wow05:53
LSD`Xappe: also, changing the group entry for admin to gid 113 changed it so instead of prompting for a password it just returned an error saying sudo wouldn't let me run the program05:53
deFryskmaxLF, apt-get source -b wine05:53
LjLmaxLF: this tutorial?05:53
kmastado everything as he does it exactly05:53
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LjLmaxLF: (specifically, this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft)05:53
maxLFsays its unable to find a source package for wine05:53
JackofalltradesWhen I type in slocate VLC it doesnt do anything. am I missing part of the command?05:53
XappeLSD`: and you added yourself to the group?05:54
deFryskslocate vlc05:54
LSD`Xappe: yeah05:54
deFryskno caps05:54
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LjLmaxLF: look, forget the source package thing, it won't gain you anything. it's the same wine you get by typing "sudo apt-get install wine". anyway, if it can't find the source, it just means you're missing the deb-src lines for Universe in your /etc/apt/sources.list05:54
Jackofalltradesah there we go. thanks05:54
deFryskmaxLF, enable sourcepackages in your repo05:55
maxLFLjL: I'll follow the turtorial you gave me and see how it turns out05:55
XappeLSD`: ok, then I have no clue...05:55
ezebehi folks, can someone give me some advice on a problem i've created with grub?05:55
deFryskcreat prob with grub howto ?05:55
aTypicalezebe, yes, don't create anymore.05:55
aTypical:-)05:55
mumblesdamm the forums being down05:55
deFrysklol05:55
savvashow can i enable ident on ubuntu? :\05:56
Dr_willissavvas,  why do you need to?05:56
Dr_willis!info identd05:56
ubotuPackage identd does not exist in any distro I know05:56
ezebei removed all the linux kernel options from the menu file, in the hope that i caould remove my linux harddrive and boot into window, and now i cant get linux back...05:56
Richard_my castle for some mythtv packages05:56
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LjL!find identd05:56
savvason undernet some channels ban users that have ~ in their username05:56
ubotuFound: bidentd, gidentd, midentd, nullidentd, oidentd (and 4 others)05:56
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ezebei can't help it, problem creation seems to be my thing05:56
Dr_willissavvas,  thats rather dumb of them.05:56
finalbetaezebe, that makes no sense. You should have fixed the windows entry, now ofcourse you can't enter linux05:57
Dr_willisapt-cache search identd   shows several05:57
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savvasDr_willis: it's not if you consider they're flooded by proxies almost daily05:57
savvasbut um..05:57
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savvaswhich one? :P05:57
finalbetaezebe, funny, but ok. You should probably boot from the ubuntu live cd, mount the linux file system, and place back a backup from the menu.lst05:57
ezebei was hoping i could use the command interface of grub to boot linux manually, then replace the menu file with the backup05:58
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Dr_willissavvas,  pick one.. if they are using that lame method to ban people.. they deserve it.05:58
Dr_willissavvas,  pick one that lets you use random characters as your ident response. :)05:58
ezebefinalbeta: i tried that, but i couldnt get permisssions to read the filesystem05:58
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Dr_willissavvas,  ive seen 4 line perl scripts that work as identd servers05:58
ezebei'm quite a newbie (out of my depth) so i may have missed something obvious05:59
LjLDr_willis: well, freenode is a bit annoying as well. if it doesn't get an ident response (and it can't from me, since i'm behind NAT), it just hangs for an annoyingly long time05:59
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savvashum05:59
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LjLDr_willis: (actually, for so long that a few irc clients just time out and assume they can't connect)05:59
savvasthat could be useful for irssi :P05:59
finalbetaezebe, when you boot from the live cd, create a dir in /media, and then use the partition manager to mount the thing. It worked for me.05:59
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Dr_willisLjL,  ive noticed the opposite effect.. windows version of xchat has identd. and takes forever to connect.. linux xchat connects almost idmnetaly05:59
Alin4lexhello05:59
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Alin4lexROMANIA ??05:59
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LjLAlin4lex: please, use lowercase06:00
milosevicok, I'm having problems to mount an NFTS disk and the forums are down06:00
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Mille-anyone could recommend a pdf editor?06:00
Ciausis there any way to install ubuntu without having a cd palyer available?06:00
Dr_willisDefacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume06:00
milosevicscribus Mille06:00
agenthow does one reset all sounds (login,shutdown,etc.) to their default value?06:00
ezebepartaition manager - gparted? i just tried "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media"06:00
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Mille-milosevic, thanks :-)06:01
milosevicCiaus, thru internet06:01
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milosevicor you can make it online :P06:01
Ciausmilosevic, how?06:01
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darkanyelhola, existe algun programa como el dragon naturaly speaker en Ubuntu???06:01
LjL!es06:01
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.06:01
LjLdarkanyel: no, not really anything like that. there was an IBM product, but i think it's discontinued.06:02
milosevicCiaus, open scribus, create your document and save ir as PDF06:02
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Se7hcould some one help me on the webcam spca5 driver? (edgy)06:03
darkanyelthanks LjL06:03
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Masqyhi all06:03
pike_agent: you could delete the .g* dirs in you home directory but that would set everything back to default..im sure in those dirs you could find something specific to delete06:03
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ezebefinalbeta,thanks for the help i'll give that a try...06:03
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MasqyCan someone know how to fix the cyrillic fonts in urxvt ?06:03
agentpike_: ok.... will look into it, thanks06:03
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milosevicit*06:04
grodiusDoes anyone know of some better wireless networking programs besides ubuntu's default06:04
GreG36kmasta, Ok, I got it to install. When I reopened my browser, the forums are down so I cant view the Howto. But when I go to watch a video, it still says missing plugin.06:04
MasqyWhen I choose the font there as : 'xft:Bitsream Vera Sana Mono:size=10' or so, english and hebrew scripts are shown allright, russian however get scrambled... any suggestions?06:04
kmastayea, probably not done yet06:04
GreG36Not done? huh?06:05
Masqyhow can I tell which font ubuntu uses for cyrillic when it uses gnome-terminal?06:05
mumblescan someone tell me what is the problme with http://johnedmondson.pastebin.co.uk/371306:05
Ciausmilosevic, thats doesnt make sense to me can you be a little more clear, please06:05
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pike_grodius: iwconfig, ifconfig and dhclient are about all you need. its good to get familiar with connecting from command line anyway06:05
nex_hi everyone06:06
kmastaGreG, he forums are currently down for cleanup & reorganization. We will be back soon!06:06
GreG36Yea, i got that.06:06
nex_does anyone know how to change the perferred app for a type of file?06:06
grodiuspike_, do i need to download dhclient?06:06
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milosevicCiaus, Open Scribus, then enter all the information you want in the file, then when finished with the file, Save it with the Save Ass... option as PDF06:07
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Ciausand what will that get me?06:07
Ciausa pdf file....06:07
pike_grodius: nope. heres an example connecting to an open AP: iwlist ath0 scan ; iwconfig ath0 essid linksys ; dhclient ath0  and your connected06:07
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Ciaus!info scibus06:07
ubotuPackage scibus does not exist in any distro I know06:07
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Dr_willisScribus06:08
SuperMigueldoes any one know how can i install blitz on ubuntu?06:08
Dr_willis!info scribus06:08
ubotuscribus: Open Source Desktop Publishing. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.4.1.dfsg-1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 5056 kB, installed size 15360 kB06:08
nex_Dr_willis, how do you change the perferred app of a file?06:08
DarrylErm...how does one go about updating an application when the default on my Ubuntu distro is horribly out of date?06:08
Hoxzer!info nail06:08
ubotunail: feature-rich BSD mail(1). In component universe, is optional. Version 11.25-1 (dapper), package size 273 kB, installed size 668 kB06:08
milosevicyes, it will give you a .pdf file06:08
nex_Dr_willis, so for example i want amarok to open mp3s, and ogg files06:08
Dr_willisnex_,  i right click and use the open with,, and i think thees a checkbox there06:08
grodiuspike_, i did an apt-cache search and apaprently theres something called dhcdbd, is that what I should DL06:08
nex_Dr_willis, let me see... thx06:08
Dr_willisnex_,  i tend to use KDE however06:09
pike_grodius: no you have all the tools in ubuntu by default06:09
LjLDarryl: perhaps best choice right now is to wait until the next Ubuntu is out. should be this month06:09
grodiuspike_, ooh ok06:09
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maxLFhey when I open the installer for world of warcraft why is the font so god damn tiny?06:09
nex_Dr_willis, it doesn't have a check box just a list of apps06:09
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Ciausmilosevic, Scribus is a page viewing utility, I want to install and OS....How do the two relate to each other?06:09
nex_Dr_willis, what's an all out good media player that plays anything from mp3-ogg?06:09
DarrylLJL, no way, I'm sticking with this06:10
maxLFhey when I open the installer for world of warcraft why is the font so god damn tiny? Is it Wines fault? How can I fix it?06:10
grodiuspike_, Do you ever get the problem where if you scan it only shows the 1 network youre already connected to?06:10
Dr_willisnex_,  i tend to just use xmms. :)06:10
DarrylI had enough trouble getting it on, I'm not swapping now :P06:10
nex_Dr_willis, ok thanks06:10
LjLDarryl: actually, you should be able to just upgrade using the automatic updater06:10
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milosevicjaja, sorry now i know what happen, for your question06:11
LjLDarryl: at any rate, if you want to install a newer version of something, you're a bit on your own. if there is a .deb package of it available, you can try installing it (but note that .deb files meant for Debian might break Ubuntu), or if there's only source, you can go and compile it.06:11
milosevicyou can download it06:11
pike_grodius: only when i dont have my external antenna plugged into the card. you will notice with weaker signals you can iwlist ath0 scan  several times and get different results06:11
milosevicthe Scribus was for Mille06:11
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GreG36Thanks for your help kmasta.06:12
grodiuspike_, what if u need to set a WEP password to connect06:12
Ciausmilosevic, I KNOW i can DL the file, but and I can burn it on other systems, but taht doesnt help me get the OS operational on the system without the cd palayer06:12
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DarrylI don't know how to compile stuff, Gah!06:12
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Ciausdarn typos.....06:13
Pacoohi06:13
SuperMiguel does any one know how can i install blitz on ubuntu?06:13
Mille-milosevic, hm. you cant acctually edit pdf-files with scribus? only create new ones?06:13
pike_grodius: iwconfig does that for example sudo iwconfig ath0 essid linksys key 123455667706:13
milosevichttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=74386 <- Ciaus wait for the forums to come up, this helped me06:14
SuperMiguel!blitz06:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about blitz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:14
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pike_grodius: or did you mean password not encryption?06:14
Ciausok thx, milosevic06:14
Renan_s2SuperMiguel, what would be "blitz"?06:14
MotureHi guys06:15
SuperMiguelRenan_s2: language like C or C++06:15
LjL!info blitz++06:15
LjLthis one?06:15
ubotuPackage blitz does not exist in any distro I know06:15
LjLblah06:15
PacooI need to restore the users on 6.10... something went wrong and I have lost the privilges on the login user06:15
Dr_willislol06:15
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LjLwell, it's there anyway06:15
Pacoocould someone help me?06:15
LjLit's just ubotu doesn't like the "+" sign06:15
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grodiuspike_, i meant WEP encryption, but if theres a ACSII (w/e) password for the network and i type key password will it work?06:15
MotureIs Edgy beta worth upgrading too? Or should I just wait the 18 days?06:15
aTypicalHi, trappist.  How are you?  Long time no chat.  :-)06:15
LjLit's in universe06:15
SuperMigueli just need blitz06:15
PacooEdgy is working quite well06:16
Dr_willisMoture,  i would say wait.. i plan onwaiting a few months. :P06:16
lophyteI just installed Dapper on an old iMac G3... I shut it down, and now it won't power back up... any suggestions?06:16
MotureReally willis?06:16
PacooI have it working wityh Beryl and Xgl and is quite stable06:16
aTypicalAnyone here using a Tungsten with Ubuntu?06:16
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Dr_willisMoture,  heh -  ive allready tested out the betas.. and had some quirks.. i will wait till they all get ironed out06:16
MotureI'd usually wait a week after the stable release, but in this case so many people love the beta, and brag of it's stability I'm almost inclined to upgrade already.06:16
MotureOh right, if you're sure. But I'll upgrade the day after stable release. ;)06:17
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pike_grodius: im not sure of the syntax for that one. man iwconfig is actually pretty decent or it might be quicker to google or look in forums06:17
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Dr_willisMoture,  depends.. work machine... vs a Hobby Machine.. :)06:17
aTypicalDr_willis, so the beta still needs work?  Darn, I just downloaded the iso.06:17
babowhere can I get one of those gnome themes with the see-thru nautilus windows ?06:17
MotureIt's my only Ubuntu machine. So I'll be looking after it. :)06:17
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grodiuspike_, ok thanks06:17
aTypicalbabo, are you talking about compiz and xgl?06:17
Dr_willisaTypical,  i imagine  with all the new stuff.. work will be needed for the next 10 years..:P but thats how linux is.06:17
aTypicalheh06:18
Dr_willisConstantaly evoloving06:18
MotureaTypical, why download the iso? If you use upgrade manager and allow beta software through it upgrades automatically06:18
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baboaTypical: not sure ... maybe ...06:18
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aTypicalMoture, I currently run SUSE and am debating whether to switch.06:18
MotureAh, in all honesty, I'd say yes.06:18
CiausaTypical, YOU GOTTA change06:18
MotureI've tried both, and Ubuntu is (in my opinion) alot nicer.06:18
aTypicalMoture, SLED10 is really nice.06:18
tecywiz121Hey, I can't get the ubuntu live cd to start on an imac, G3 i think06:19
MotureIF you like the SUSE environment, and aren't ready for a huge change, try Kubuntu.06:19
Ciausi d did suse for three months, and it never ever worked well...06:19
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aTypicalMoture, no, thanks.  I'm a GNOME man.06:19
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MotureGood to hear. :D06:19
sethkaTypical, I've switched my suse boxes to ubuntu.06:19
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sethkaTypical, suse seems (IMO) to be regressing as far a quality06:19
tecywiz121anyone?06:19
Ciausubuntu lives up to the motto, of it just works06:19
aTypicalsethk, are you the seth who does Continuum for wine?06:20
MotureTrue, ciaus, but that's not always a good thing.06:20
sethkaTypical, no06:20
sethkaTypical, sorry06:20
baboaTypical: I don't think so ... I just want one of those futuristic gnome looks with the transparent windows ...06:20
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sethkaTypical, I do kernel and device drivers, middleware.06:20
MotureSometimes with Linux, I just like a challenge. With Ubuntu, there are very few challenges.06:20
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aTypicalsethk, that's too brainy for me.  ;-)06:20
weirdolinoi don't get the ubuntu dapper desktop cd to run on my new pc. the cd is okay, installed it on other pcs before. it hangs at "mounting root file system". pc is a P4 3.2GHz and the board an asus p5gpl. does anyone have an idea?06:20
lophyteMoture: that's the point :P06:21
sethkMoture, work a bit harder, you'll find challanges.  just different ones.06:21
Ciaussuse HAS MORE CHALLENGES THAN EVEN nOVELL CAN RESOLVE06:21
Ciaus caps lock sawry06:21
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Motureweirdolino: The live CD doesn't work on every PC. Use the Alternate CD download (www.ubuntu.com)06:21
tecywiz121would that work for my problem as well?06:22
sethkweirdolino, if your goal is to run the live cd (instead of your goal being to install from it), try disabling DMA for ide drives06:22
weirdolinoMoture: thx, i'm downloading the alternate installer atm. should i know anything about the required configuration?06:22
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sethktecywiz121, I don't believe there are G3 binaries, no.06:22
SuperMiguelthere is any way to install blitz on ubuntu?06:23
tecywiz121sethk, well it got all the way to loading gnome display manager, then the screen turned off06:23
Motureweirdolino: Are you partitioning, or formatting? Partitioning can be a little tricky without the live CD interface, unless you know what you're doing.06:23
sethktecywiz121, in that case, I'm wrong.06:23
weirdolino' sethk my goal is installing ubuntu on this pc. worked fine on my laptop and my old desktop pc06:23
sethktecywiz121, and, in that case, the text mode install will help you.06:23
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sethkweirdolino, the text mode install from the alternate cd is certainly worth a try.06:23
Ciausmoture where can i locate the live cd06:23
weirdolino Moture i don't even get to the point of partitioning. the live cd just won't boot06:24
sethkweirdolino, wait.  you said it tries to mount the root file system, didn't you?06:24
weirdolinoyes sethk06:24
sethkweirdolino, then it is already booted.06:24
Motureweirdolino: I meant; do you PLAN to partition?06:24
sethkweirdolino, the text mode install is your best bet.06:24
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weirdolinookay but it seems to have some problem identifying my hardware...06:25
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Motureweirdolino: Yes, the alternate CD I suggested before is your best bet, as sethk said. But I'm saying IF you plan to partition, it'll be a little tricky using text based interface.06:25
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tecywiz121sethk, how do you do that?  oh and would there be any noticeable improvemnt to the speed compaired to like os x 10.2?06:25
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Motureweirdolino: Chances are one the OS is unpacked your hardware will be recognized.06:25
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sethkMoture, I always partition that way; I hate the gui partitioner.06:26
weirdolinoit returns first: "had: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handle on exit" and then "Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 357296"06:26
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MotureSeriously sethk? Hm, I quite like it.06:26
david_I'm trying to connect to a folder I'm sharing using windows share on ubuntu, and when I type my password, it isn't accepted.06:26
david_how do i set the password used for samba shares?06:26
kmastaok, when I install a package from the package manager, where does it go?06:26
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Moturekmasta: Which package?06:27
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tectahmm, what'd ubuntu do to make the trash ico appear on the task bar?06:27
DyegovI'm having problems with my resolution, it's only 640x480 or something like that and I want to encrease it, but I can't06:27
kmastaMoture sensors-applet06:27
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kmastamoture, i already have lm-sensors set up06:27
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silvertip257hey sethk06:27
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Moturekmasta: Can you run sensors-applet from terminal?06:27
vit_hy all :)] 06:27
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Moturekmasta: I assume your running Dapper?06:27
weirdolinopartitioning won't be a problem. my hd is already patitioned, i just need to reformat one of them. getting ubuntu up is the problem06:27
pike_!fixres > Dyegov06:28
kmastaMoture, yea i'm running dapper, i don't know how to run sensors-applet from my terminal though06:28
Motureweirdolino: You'll do fine with the alternate CD, apart from anything it's handy to have around06:28
pike_Dyegov: take a look at that link and see if that works to fix it06:28
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vit_----------------------------   HY ALL FROM           MOLDOVA   -----------------------------06:28
Moturekmasta: Try typing "sensors-applet" in terminal, without the ""s06:28
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dark_soulhello06:29
kmastaMoture, i tired, i got nothing06:29
MotureHm.06:29
vit_felicit toti moldovenii cu ziua vinului !!!06:29
kmastamoture, I don't understand what happens to all these packages once I download and install them, it's like they go nowhere06:29
Dyegovpike, I'he tried that and it didn' work06:29
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dark_soulhello! :)06:30
dark_soulxD06:30
Moturekmasta: They should go into one of the menus on the top of your screen, have a look.06:30
pike_Dyegov: what kind of vid card do you have?06:30
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Dyegovnvidia GeForce06:30
weirdolinookay Moture, thx, i was about to try that anyway, once it's downloaded but there's one thing that makes me uneasy about it: when the dapper live cd didn't work i tried the breezy installer cd i still had and at the end of the installation, when it rebooted, it froze. after that i couldn't even boot my windows partition anymore and had to reinstall the whole system06:30
vit_hy :|06:30
kmastaMoture, I already looked ther06:30
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Rookie_!nvidia06:30
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:31
Moturekmasta: If not, wait until www.ubuntuforums.org is back up, and ask there. I hate how often the forum is down.06:31
pike_Dyegov: have you installed video drivers yet for nvidia or are you using the generic one setup by default?06:31
Motureweirdolino: Good luck, mate... can you keep in touch here during installation?06:31
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Dyegovpike, I'm usign the generic ones. I have not intalled anything yet06:31
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kmastaMoture, ok06:31
MotureSorry I can't help you futher :(06:32
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weirdolino' well should i get lucky with the alternate installer i can come back and tell you how it worked Moture :)06:32
RopechoborraIs there any diference in upgrading edgy now or when its released?06:32
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Ropechoborra*upgrading to edgy06:32
thatGuy_hey guys06:33
thatGuy_last night i was looking to remove gnome06:33
Dyegovpike, does what it says in this page helps me? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia06:33
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pike_Dyegov: basically you have a few options 1. edit config file manually "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" 2. use the automatic setup "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg 3.follow the link ubotu mentioned and go ahead and install nvidia drivers since youll want to do that anyway eventually. might gix it for you06:33
kmastaMoture, I tried using xsensors, but that didn't work06:33
thatGuy_here is a command that should pretty much do it06:33
thatGuy_sudo aptitude purge gnome-bin gnome-desktop-data gnome-panel gnome-panel-data gnome-utils gnome-libs-data gnome-control-center nautilus libgnome32 libgnomeui32 libgnomesupport0 gnome-session libgnorba27 libglade-gnome0 gnomp306:33
pike_Dyegov: yeah06:33
thatGuy_::waiting to see what happens::06:33
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DyegovOK, I'll try it and be right back, thanks pike06:34
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pike_Dyegov: np06:34
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thatGuy_fyrestrtr, scroll up slightly06:35
host`ok, I finally have linux up and running06:36
host`and it was a lot easier than I was making06:36
txoofAny idea what package supplies Gd Graphics Toolkit?  There are quite a few packages that supply gd related things, but I'm not sure which one I need.06:36
host`ubuntu did all the work for me06:36
thatGuy_ompaul, scroll up slightly06:36
host`just about06:36
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weirdolinoMoture: someone advised me to run knoppix and save the output of lsmod and demsg to a file (knoppix does boot on this machine, an old one though, v. 3.6) because that would contain valuable information on how to cofigure ubuntu. what do you make of that?06:36
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jendaI have trouble networking my dapper and edgy boxes. Openssh-server is installed on both, but connecting always ends up with 'no host could be found'. They are both connected to the LAN, one with DHCP and the other with static IP. The error occurs on both ends.06:37
eriderdo anyone have both 32bit and 64bit libraries running on there system06:37
SAM_themanhow do  I get my hp deskjet 3653 to work ?06:37
SAM_themanI do06:37
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SAM_themanwell I have a AMD X2 3800 +06:37
SAM_theman..thats right06:37
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pike_jenda: sudo iptable -L shows input forward and output all set to accept?06:38
opixusdoes any one have or know of any .debs for banshee plugins06:38
pike_jenda: sudo iptables -L i mean06:38
swamytkI have my splash corrupted image - updated yesterday... it is just me or???06:38
jendapike_: yes on the edgy...06:38
MotureWhat's everyone up to?06:39
jendapike_: and on the dapper too.06:39
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MotureI'm using gtkorphan to clean any unwanted apt-get dependancies06:39
pike_jenda: and your connecting by ipaddress like ssh 192.168.1.3 -l username  ?06:39
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jendapike_: I used nautilus06:40
ItpbullWhen i try to type "make" .. I get make: command not found .. How can i fix this?06:40
p_mashoanyone know a pdf reader that shows pdf documents "in" a firefox browser, like acrobat does in Internet Explorer (mash spits)06:40
Gabby_HayesSAM_theman  .. just got one of them built myself ... and still "twittling" with it  :-)06:40
tim_hi #ubuntu, i was wondering if someone could pastebin their GRUB entry for windows XP?06:40
swamytkdo any one use Xubuntu Edgy? how is performance?06:40
pike_jenda: are you wanting ftp or a remote shell or a remote desktop?06:40
SAM_theman:p06:40
jendapike_: remote file browsing06:40
jendapike_: ssh fails with 'no route to host'06:41
swamytkacroread-mozilla plugin will do06:41
SAM_themanGabby_Hayes, u a gamer or 3d artist ..because I am both :p06:41
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swamytkdo any one use Xubuntu Edgy? how is performance?06:41
jendapike_: and on the other machine with 'network is unreachable'06:41
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ciscosurferanyone know of the name for the edgy channel?  #edgy is not working06:41
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StellarPrincehow can I see the cpu frequency???06:41
ItpbullWhen i try to type "make" .. I get make: command not found .. How can i fix this?06:41
Gabby_HayesSAM_theman  .. neither, am a retired programmer, and wanted to see if I could get some 64-bit stuff written up & running06:42
anon32what would the best way to view a 300MB text file be?06:42
ItpbullStellarPrince system > administration > system monitor06:42
pike_they both have internet access and are on the same router?06:42
SAM_themano06:42
StellarPrincein KUbuntu06:42
anon32how can I make system monitor show one graph per CPU06:42
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silvertip257sethk you here still ?06:42
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jendapike_: yes06:43
sethksilvertip257, I'm in and out.  I have to finish something for a client, then I'll check back with you.06:43
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jendaciscosurfer: #ubuntu+106:43
silvertip257ah ok sethk06:43
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silvertip257sethk can we set up a pm channel ? so u can ge ahold of me ???06:43
hastesaverItpbull, what are you trying to install?06:43
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loper06morning all. does anybody have experince in adding multiple users to proftpd?06:44
pike_jenda: can you paste the output of ifconfig to a pastebin site?06:44
Itpbullhastesaver ndiswrapper .. aapparently my wireless nic needs 1.23, and synaptics got 1.2506:44
sethksilvertip257, we already have one06:44
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jendapike_: Umm... lart me :) It's a PEBKAC :)06:45
hastesaverItpbull, have you installed the package build-essential ? You need it06:45
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SB|nblracerHowdy06:45
SB|nblracerneed some help06:45
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SB|nblracerim using the DVD version to install Ubuntu06:45
YouCeyEhi.. kde wont start at the start up.. have to manually do /etc/init.d/kdm restart06:45
jendapike_: cable unplugged :) You can easily not notice on 80 meters of connection between them.06:46
tim_hi #ubuntu, i was wondering if someone could pastebin their GRUB entry for windows XP?06:46
SB|nblracerwhen i go in the LIveCD to install, and click on install on desktop nothing happens06:46
hastesaverYouCeyE, you mean the X doesn't start at all, or do you mean that something else (gdm or xdm) starts instead of kdm?06:46
loper06tim_: grub auto detects that u have xp06:46
YouCeyEhastesaver, X wont start06:46
Itpbullhastesaver done. Installed build-essential .. now what?06:46
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pike_jenda: hah :)06:47
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SB|nblracercan some one highlight or PM me if that have an answere why it want intsall06:47
jendapike_: sorry :) and thanks06:47
Gavrilais there any easy way to get gnome 2.16 on dapper?06:47
nex_anyone know how to get xgl running?06:47
YouCeyEX wont start by itself06:47
hastesaverItpbull, make should work now. But have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs ?06:47
nex_wanna try it out06:47
ItpbullSB|nblracer right-click on it > open06:48
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loper06morning all. does anybody have experince in adding multiple users to proftpd?06:48
pike_!xgl > nex_06:48
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Itpbullhastesaver the link you've given me is down.06:48
tim_loper06, yea, but initially, it wouldn't boot it correctly, so i made some changes. the changes reflect the actual commands you can type into the grub shell, which i have been doing (and sucks each time i wanna boot win). However, the actual commands you type wont work in the menu.lst file.06:48
tim_loper06, so, im wondering how to correctly do it06:49
hastesaverItpbull, it's working for me right now... let me check again06:49
Itpbullhastesaver Do I need *anyother* essential build?06:49
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YouCeyEhastesaver, any help?06:49
loper06tim: well i would help u but my laptop is not w/ me now.06:49
hastesaverItpbull, the link is working fine... try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:50
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hastesaverYouCeyE, I don't really know... maybe you can try "dmesg" and look for errors06:51
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Itpbullhastesaver In order to have ndiswrapper 1.23 installed, what Do I need .. cause, when i typed "make" ... I get "make -C driver" error .06:51
hastesaverYouCeyE, or maybe just reinstall the package :-)06:51
hastesaverItpbull, I don't really know; sorry06:51
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silvertip257would anyone be willing to help me with a GRUB install (regarding DSL) in a private channel ???06:52
hastesaverYouCeyE, BTW, I'm using KDE, and it's running gdm... did you start with a Ubuntu CD or Kubuntu one?06:52
Valandilbonjour, je cherche un serveur fr06:52
hastesaver!fr06:52
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:52
SB|nblracerany clue on why i click on install on desktop nothing happens06:52
Itpbullhastesaver Is linux-kernel-devel related with kernel-source ?06:52
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Valandilmerci06:53
hastesaverSB|nblracer, try double-clicking :-)06:53
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SB|nblraceri did06:53
loper06SB|nblracer: try rebooting into the cd again06:53
ItpbullSB|nblracer right-click on it > open06:53
SB|nblraceri get a little circle like a bussy curser06:53
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SB|nblracerand nothing happens06:53
hastesaverItpbull, I don't think you need linux-kernel-devel06:54
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hastesaverSB|nblracer, make sure the CD is fine (there is an option before you boot for checking the CD for errors, right?)06:54
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SB|nblracerhastesaver i did do that06:54
SB|nblracerthe DVD is fine06:54
pigorhello. how to downgrade a specific package?06:54
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silvertip257would anyone be willing to help me with a GRUB install in a private channel ???06:55
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American-Techlooking for help finding my driver for my wireless06:55
aLPHa_LeaK re06:55
American-TechI have gateway mx48806:55
American-Technotebook06:55
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knixtechis there a way to have my ubuntu-server automatically update?06:55
tinyHi! What are available install methods for ubuntu?06:55
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Garbaektiny > apg-get :p06:56
hastesavertiny, you want to install Ubuntu, or packages on Ubuntu?06:56
LSD`* > apt-get :P06:56
b1shop hmm.  does tar/gzip still have that 2GB file limit?06:57
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LuakagonHow do I open a .lzh file?06:57
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hastesaverLuakagon, what kind of a file is it? (Type "file <filename>" to find out)06:57
tinyI want to install ubuntu right now but I don't have any CD/DVD install media here. Is it possible to install it from some live disk or from another running linux system.06:58
host`so is there no root login in ubuntu?06:58
tinyUsing the network install or whatever06:58
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host`you have to sudo?06:58
hastesavertiny, yes, it's possible06:59
Tru7hIs 800 Mhz enough to run Ubuntu?06:59
pike_tiny: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation06:59
LSD`Tru7h: I'm running it on 55006:59
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hastesaverhost`, yes, you have to sudo. It is possible to enable the root account, although I've never found the need to. If you really really need a root shell, you can always do "sudo -i"06:59
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Tru7hAlright, then memory's not the problem.07:00
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LSD`Tru7h: you want at least 256MB RAM to run it at least07:00
tinyyes pike_ ty, already surfing there as you suggested earlier ... I'll go with the knoppix method I think07:00
Gavrilahello,is there any easy way to get gnome 2.16 on dapper?07:00
Tru7hLSD`: Alright, thanks.07:00
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knixtechHow can I update my ubuntu-server automagically?07:02
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pike_tiny: ah ubotu didnt acknowledge that he'd sent the message07:02
host`automagically07:02
host`with magic07:02
knixtechhehe07:02
knixtechlike with out having to update myself?07:03
ItpbullWhere is the location of the kernel build ?07:03
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tinypike_: no problem mate07:03
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hastesaverknixtech, have a cron job doing "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" ? No wait, there is sure to be a better way :-)07:04
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knixtechhastesaver, ty, the forums are down, thats why I am asking here07:04
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ItpbullWhere is the location of the kernel build ?07:05
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Itpbullfile07:05
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FaLCoNhi again .. I forgot my root password I have just user now unfortunately dedicated has rebooted and Services has closed . How can I restart vsftpd service by a user ? Or is it possible ?07:06
RopechoborraIs there any risks by upgrading to edgy ?? Like loosing some program configs or something like that?07:06
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wladstonguys, I'm running a debian server, anyone can tell me if there is an easy way to clean-install ubuntu on it ? I only have ssh access to the server.07:06
knixtechexit07:06
deFryskRopechoborra, there is always a risk, make sure to back up first07:07
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RopechoborradeFrysk but.. normaly it should not touch the programs config.. shouldnt it?07:07
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jaekhow can i make a module not load on boot07:07
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deFryskRopechoborra, normally not07:08
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rambo3!blacklist > jaek07:08
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whymehi all07:08
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bruenigsalut07:08
jaek!blacklist07:08
ubotuTo blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add "blacklist modulename" to the end of that list07:08
whymesalut bruenig07:08
RopechoborradeFrysk what do u say i should backup ? My home... the /etc??07:08
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whymewhat's up with the forums?07:08
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opixusdoes anyone know how to remove the sub-heading from the xfce main menu07:08
deFryskyour /home07:09
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opixuswhere in /home07:09
ciphernemoWhat's the channel on freenode for linux kernel questions?07:09
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RopechoborraWell i got it in other partition... so i guess it wont be a problem07:09
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Ramunashello, I have winfast 2000 XP tv tuner with remote, how do I get the remote to work?07:09
raiXeranyone knows how to fix this? Error activating XKB configuration.07:09
deFryskRopechoborra, egdy is not stable yet and even if it would be there is always a chance of mishaps07:09
jaekrambo3: thanks07:09
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RopechoborraOk... i'll wait to the oficial release then07:10
RopechoborraThanks =)07:10
cherubielciphernemo, start with #kernelnewbies07:10
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bruenigwhyme, if you need to use the forums. you can use google, google something like       site:ubuntuforums.org whatever you are searching for    and then use the google cache07:10
wladstonif anyone can help, please /msg me07:10
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khaije1deFrysk: it's being released in the next few weeks isn't it?07:11
eraccciphernemo, there is also ##kernel.07:11
whymeyea, but what's up with them?07:11
deFrysk!roadmap07:11
ciphernemoeracc: thank you eracc, becuase there's pretty much no one at #kernelnewbies07:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about roadmap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:11
Motureubotu?07:11
deFryskit is due this month 26th i believe07:11
MotureIs ubotu a bot? -_-07:11
bruenigthey have been saying for a while that they were awaiting approval for server upgrades from canonical, maybe they got the approval and are switching over07:12
deFrysk!ubotu07:12
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage07:12
grayscalehi, im looking for help mounting a drive through X.  Whenever I double click on the drive, it give me an error about how device /dev/hdb1 is not removable and cant execute pmount07:12
khaije1deFrysk: oh ok, from your comments i couldn't tell if something had chaanged07:12
opixusdoes anyone know how to remove the sub-heading from the xfce main menu07:12
FaLCoNhi again .. I forgot my root password I have just user now unfortunately dedicated has rebooted and Services has closed . How can I restart vsftpd service by a user ? Or is it possible ?07:12
cherubielgrayscale, edit /etc/pmount.allow07:12
cherubielgrayscale, add your drive entry and retry07:12
grayscalewill do, thanks07:12
eraccciphernemo, there is also #linux-kernel (9 people in there when I did a channel list here).07:12
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cherubielFaLCoN, sudo?07:12
bruenigopixus, maybe #xubuntu could help, if there is anyone in there07:13
opixuskk thx07:13
mistershoobyhi can someone help me out with a problem I'm having07:13
mistershoobywhen I run easyubuntu, I get the following error07:13
bruenig!ask07:13
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:13
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mistershoobyW: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B8371807:13
vicscandlmistershooby: funny, i was going to ask about that too.07:13
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whymebruenig, I actually wanted to browse through the gaming forums, to see what games are available under linux... I know that quake and doom work, but... what other fps's? I know that planetside doesn't though, which is a shame...07:13
bruenigmistershooby, looks like one of the repos it adds needs a gpg authentication key and they didn't put it in the easyubuntu program/script/whatever it is.07:14
mistershoobyhm07:15
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bruenigmistershooby, what are you trying to do with easyubuntu, perhaps I could tell you how to do it in another way or someone else07:16
pike_whyme: there is savage or savage2 kind of a strategy online fps07:16
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mistershoobyinstall flash07:16
mistershoobyheh07:16
FaLCoNcherubiel: what's is sudo ?07:16
pike_whyme: well not really07:16
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cherubiel!sudo07:16
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:16
Ramunasnobody has lirc set up in here?07:16
Itpbull!madwifi07:16
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:16
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cherubielmistershooby, the signatures are included in the Release files, as the error message suggests. So if the public key is not known to GPG the above error messages are produced.07:17
cherubielmistershooby, are you facing any issues because of this??07:17
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Materazzi!pastebin07:17
bruenigmistershooby, use this guide here to enable the extra repos, once you enable the extra repos, open a terminal Applications>Accessories>Terminal and copy this in "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"07:17
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:17
bruenighttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-5bbef89639d9a7d93fe38f6356dc17847d37309607:17
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hastesaverwhyme, there is tremulous (I've heard it's an FPS, and I've heard it's good...) and there is Wolfenstein:Enemy Territory07:18
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cherubielwhyme, doom3!!07:18
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Wabbit23Anyone running the Dell Inspiron 6400 and having audio issues?07:18
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FaLCoNcherubiel: falcon is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.07:19
FaLCoN:(07:19
cherubielFaLCoN, you need to add the user falcon to /etc/sudoers07:19
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cherubielFaLCoN, did you say you lost the root password?07:20
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xiphiasHello. No question here, I just wanted to say, I installed Ubuntu last night on my workstation and I love it. I'm mostly a Debian/Gentoo guy anyways.07:20
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bruenig!offtopic07:20
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!07:20
FaLCoNcherubiel : yes07:20
mistershoobythanks07:20
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mistershoobyanyone know when flash 9 is going to come out07:20
mistershoobyI see all these digg stories about it07:20
mistershoobybut no release yet07:20
Ramunasme too :(07:20
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bruenigmistershooby, the linux flash blog seems to indicate a beta might come out soon, I dont think the official one is slated until 0707:20
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mistershoobyoh damn07:21
bruenigthe beta would have to be better than this crap though07:21
lastnodehow do you mount an iso, i mean what are the flags?07:21
bruenig!iso07:21
ubotuTo mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows07:21
mistershoobyagh I installed flashplugin-nonfree07:21
FaLCoNcherubiel : I lost my root password :( I have just a user and I must start vsftpd service :(07:21
mistershoobybut youtube still says I need flash07:21
bruenigmistershooby, it should work on youtube, some sites require 8 or 907:22
hastesaverFaLCoN, that's why you should use sudo :-)07:22
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cherubielFaLCoN, do you have phsical access to the box?07:22
hastesavermistershooby, restart your browser?07:22
lastnodebruenig, asks me to specify a filesystem type07:22
FaLCoNah absolutely not ..07:22
FaLCoNIam a ssh user07:22
bruenigmistershooby, put this in the addressbar of firefox "about:plugins"07:22
nex_Anyone help me out with compiz? i'm getting a repo error07:22
FaLCoNIt's dedicated abroad07:22
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mistershoobybruenig: "no plugins are installed"07:22
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nex_Compiz:  Depends: compiz-plugins but it is not going to be installed07:23
narutoI've just reinstalled my dapper. But it seems that it can't mount usb-storage automaticly after I do some upgrades?07:23
narutocould someone help me please?07:23
whymehttp://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=1011 is where you want to go - the guy's got a massive list of games to play on linux!!07:23
brueniglastnode, that file system flag goes something like -t ext3, or whatever your file system is. I am not too familiar with mounting isos, generally just partitions or hard drives, a man mount might help07:23
bruenigmistershooby, all installed with flashplugin-nonfree?07:23
mistershoobyall installed?07:24
mistershoobyyeah07:24
mistershoobylemme uninstall/reinstall in synaptic07:24
dark_lightthere are any way to have live bookmarks with galeon?07:24
bruenigmistershooby, go to the terminal and do ls /usr/lib/firefox/plugins07:24
dark_lightor epiphany07:24
nex_can anyone help me out with compiz?????07:24
bruenignex_, #ubuntu-xgl07:25
pike_lastnode: offhand mount -t iso9660 -o loop /dev/  /mnt  i think07:25
lastnodebruenig, got it, bchunk error i think07:25
lastnodepike_, got it, thanks07:25
cherubielFaLCoN, sorry i think you might be stuck.. you should talk to the admin.07:25
nex_thank07:25
ItpbullIf I install an application thru synaptic, can I install an old version o0f it (without synpatic) will it work?07:25
cherubielFaLCoN, if the root password is lost, you could use a live cd, mount the root fs, chroot and do a passwd.07:25
bruenigmistershooby, when you do ls /usr/lib/firefox/plugins, what is the output?07:25
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mistershoobybruenig: libunixprintplugin.so07:26
FaLCoNI'm gonna make a phone call ...07:26
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bruenigmistershooby, you should have flashplayer.xpt and libflashplayer.so if you installed flashplugin-nonfree07:26
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jendaWhere can I report gobby bugs?07:27
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mistershoobybruenig: well I just reinstalled07:27
mistershoobyin synaptic07:27
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bruenigsynaptic is apt-get, they are the same, synaptic is just a graphical front end07:27
mistershoobywell if I've installed it07:27
mistershoobywhy isn't it showing up07:27
lastnodebchunk problem with a vcd, when i mount the way pike_ said to, i get -  wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop4,07:27
lastnode       missing codepage or other error07:27
lastnodewhoops, sorry, thought that was online07:27
lastnode*one line07:28
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bruenigmistershooby, it is pretty easy to do it manually07:28
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hastesavermistershooby, did you close your browser before installing? did you restart it after?07:28
bruenigmistershooby, save this to the desktop or the home folder or wherever you want http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz07:28
mistershoobyI closed the browser and reoped it after yes07:28
bruenighastesaver, it should still be in the directory wouldn't it?07:28
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Millesomeone using scribus? and does someone know which versions of postscripts it supports? can't find any info on it on their webpage. having some problems importing ps files.07:29
hastesaverbruenig, oh, yes07:29
hastesaverbruenig, Is this flashplugin-nonfree we're talking about?07:29
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bruenighastesaver, yeah07:29
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bruenigmistershooby, when you get that done, indicate as much07:30
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mistershoobyits extracted on the desktop07:30
mistershoobynow what07:30
bruenigmistershooby, open a terminal and cd into it. Do cd ~/Desktop/installinstall_flash_player_7_linux07:31
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bruenigmistershooby, then do "sudo mv sudo mv flashplayer.xpt libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/07:31
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bruenig"07:31
sureshotwhat does the tilda do in that command brueing07:32
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sureshotwhat does the tilda do in that command bruenig07:32
bruenigmistershooby, the cd command was wrong should have been cd ~/Desktop/install_flash_player_7_linux07:32
bruenigsureshot, the ~ stands for /home/username/07:32
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mistershoobyokay its installed and the plugin plays video07:33
mistershoobybut no audio07:33
sureshotthanks bruenig07:33
host`what's the best linux bittorrent client? or what channel should I be asking questions like that in?07:33
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bruenigmistershooby, ah now you play the flashplugin sucks and doesn't work right game, have fun07:33
jaek!blacklist07:33
ubotuTo blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add "blacklist modulename" to the end of that list07:33
Ramunashost`: probably azureus07:33
narutoI've just reinstalled my dapper. But it seems that it can't mount usb-storage automaticly after I did some upgrades?07:33
narutocould someone help me please?07:33
jaek!blacklist > jaek07:33
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bruenigmistershooby, one solution is to close the browser and making sure any application that makes sound is closed and then restart the browser and try again07:34
khaije1host`: really it depends what you want from it, Azareus is excellent, but i don't prefer that it uses java07:34
hastesavermistershooby, wait, you have Firefox, Flash, and no audio?07:34
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jaeki created a file /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and added the line "blacklist agpgart" and it still loads that module...07:35
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sureshothey all i ask this question from time to time if anyone has any crib sheets they use for answering question here in this channel and would like to share them i would be greatful07:35
host`!kernel07:35
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild07:35
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arbrandesGreetings07:36
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hastesaverbruenig, aw, just as I was about to tell him... :-)07:36
host`if I install the 686 kernel, would that make my machine run any better?07:36
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arbrandesI'm having problems with xdmcp login: it seems the gnome settings daemon is not starting.  I get a brown screen and a small white rectangle for over 2 minutes, before getting an error message.07:37
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matjuis pwc.ko (for Logitech/Philips USB cameras) working on Linux/PPC ? I'm trying to troubleshoot something07:37
arbrandes(Edgy here)07:37
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lapatsosi am new in linux07:38
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deviosso ... I ran a dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 of=/dev/hda.  it stopped at 7.7 GB each time... I have a 20GB HDD, but didn't realize that until after I installed Ubuntu.  Is there a post-install test I can run on my HDD without destroying data to see if the HDD is ok?07:38
pike_host`: its a good idea07:38
host`welcome lapatsos07:38
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host`thanks pike07:39
lapatsosthanks07:39
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anon32help! what's the defragment command?07:39
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pike_host`: since everythign is compiled for 386 i dont know if it makes much diff but i always prefer my k7 kernel07:39
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matjuanon32: why do you need to defrag ?07:40
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host`I guess my next big linux task will be to compile my own custom kernel, but for now I think I'll just install the 686 version07:40
anon32matju, because my drive is fragmented?07:40
mister_robotodoes anyone here know what truecrypt is and whether it will be put into the ubuntu repositories at some point?07:40
matjuanon32: how do you know?07:40
anon32matju, because it's over 90% full and it's rather slow07:40
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matjuanon32: then you may try: apt-get install defrag07:41
finalbetaAfter installing wine a .wine dir should exist right? Or how do you create it?07:41
anon32matju, ok07:41
matjuanon32: but really, i never tried it, cause i never needed to in 10 years of linux07:41
pike_finalbeta: try running winecfg07:41
chaosmeikaI need some assistance. Im installing ubuntu on a iMac g3 and Im coming up with an error07:41
bruenigfinal beta a "winecfg" will do it07:42
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anon32matju, that's nice... oh yea, could you tell me how to open a webpage in w3m?07:42
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chaosmeikais there a page that has a reference about errors and how to solve them?>07:42
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linuxphotogeektruecrypt is file or device encryption app at http://www.truecrypt.org/07:42
matjuanon32: what's w3m ?07:42
SAM_themanyup i am back07:42
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anon32matju, the text browser that's installed by default07:42
finalbetathnx pike_07:42
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lapatsosIs any one from grecce?07:42
Sionide!gr07:42
ubotu#ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes07:42
Sionide:-)07:43
Sionidelucky guess... heh07:43
mister_robotolinuxphotogeek: yes, i know and i use it on windows. but it doesn't compile on latest ubuntu so i want to know if it's going to make it to the repositories some time07:43
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FaLCoNgreetz from Turkey to Greece !07:43
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matjuanon32: i don't recall using a terminal-based web browser this century.07:43
mister_robotolinuxphotogeek: they have some debs on their download site but not for edgy and the source is missing a file that it depends on.07:43
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anon32matju, it's nice when you're in console mode07:44
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erider_do anyone have both 32bit and 64bit libraries running on there system07:44
deviosso ... I ran a dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 of=/dev/hda.  it stopped at 7.7 GB each time... I have a 20GB HDD, but didn't realize that until after I installed Ubuntu.  Is there a post-install test I can run on my HDD without destroying data to see if the HDD is ok?07:44
matjuanon32: i'm not in console mode. (and i used to be a console freak too.)07:44
SAM_themanI am going to try AmericasArmy07:44
Aphex_Twinhey there. is it possible to open a text console stationed in the current nautilus folder?07:44
linuxphotogeekruns on dapper07:44
anon32matju, defrag doesn't work on ReiserFS or ext3 :-(07:44
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linuxphotogeekI think I used the deb07:44
THX-1138devios - "testdisk" a quick google should find it07:44
SionideSAM_theman, i got it running, but it was quite slow cos my laptop's not so good..:07:44
Sionide:)*07:44
mister_robotolinuxphotogeek: right, but i'm not on dapper ;)07:44
SAM_themano what kind07:45
matjuanon32: that's because no-one using ext3 or reiserfs really cares about defrag07:45
anon32matju, :-(07:45
linuxphotogeekI plan to move to edgy so wish me luck?07:45
Sionidedevios, are you sure you haven't partitioned your 20 gig into a 7.7gb and the remainder??07:45
THX-1138devios - I think gparted and reformatting it should fix it.07:45
Sionidelinuxphotogeek, good luck...07:45
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matjuanon32: anyway fragmentation isn't nearly as much of a problem as on FAT systems, which are super bad at handling it.07:45
mister_robotolinuxphotogeek: i'm using it on 3 machines and it's working well07:45
SionideTHX-1138, reformatting will lose all the data though07:46
bruenigI wish you failure07:46
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Zoffix_Hi, I've just installed Ubuntu 6.10, and I want it to boot up in text mode, for some reason I can't find 'inittab' file. It is not in /etc and 'find' produced no results. Did anybody have a similar problem?07:46
LSD`FAT filesystems are super bad, period.07:46
Aphex_Twinkonqueror can open up text consoles in the current folder, can nautilus do the same?07:46
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THX-1138true enough - the penguin slueth kit is a collection of tools07:46
SionideZoffix_, $ locate inittab   /etc/inittab    <- it's there for me..07:46
anon32LSD`, they *are* easy to implement and are really light...07:46
bruenigZoffix_, #ubuntu+107:46
mister_robotoLSD`: they are good when you want to share a partition with windows though07:47
fishstickswhen i try to compile something, and it says "can not create binaries", what do i need to do07:47
pike_Zoffix_: thats wierd07:47
LSD`anon32: they're still shite07:47
Aphex_Twindon't gnome users never need to open a text console in the current nautilus folder?07:47
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LSD`mister_roboto: no they're not07:47
Sionidemister_roboto, you can get a third party app which allows windows to read ext307:47
mister_robotofishsticks: are you trying to overwrite a running binary?07:47
Aphex_Twin's/never/ever/g'07:47
THX-1138fishsticks: have you installed a compiler? "build-essential"07:47
anon32LSD`, then why are all flash drives FAT?07:47
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SionideAphex_Twin, you can do that with a nautlis script, quite easily07:47
Zoffix_oh man =( Edgy is not stable =(07:47
bruenigAphex_Twin, generally I am able to cd07:47
fishsticksnah, i just installed gcc, thanks THX-113807:47
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mister_robotoLSD`: what do you recommend in place of FAT then? supposedly writes to NTFS still cannot be trusted07:48
fishsticksi've been away from linux for a long while, haha07:48
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SionideAphex_Twin, nautilus* even07:48
LSD`anon32: saying FAT is a good filesystem because everything can read it is like saysing Windows is a good OS because every PC runs it07:48
anon32mister_roboto, there's ext3 support for Windows07:48
pike_nice thing about fat is it works from solaris to xp out of the box cant say that for really any other format07:48
THX-1138flash drives are small fat32 is compatible with most oses07:48
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mister_robotoSionide: read and write?   anon32: read and write support?07:48
Sionidemister_roboto, yeah, it's called e2fs07:49
anon32LSD`, it *is* good for *some* things because it's really simple to implement07:49
THX-1138!ntfs07:49
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse07:49
fishsticksokay, now it says i need SDL07:49
Aphex_Twinbruening: what's the procedure to do that?07:49
LSD`anon32: fact is that FAT isn't, never was and never will be a good filesystem07:49
Sionidesourceforge appears to be down for me at the moment, but the link is e2fsprogs.sf.net07:49
Zoffix_Is Ubuntu 6.06 stable?07:49
bruenigyes07:49
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SionideZoffix_, it is07:49
mister_robotoSionide: that's good to know!  you can mount an ext3 partition on a device letter, for example?07:49
pike_Zoffix_: its so stable its inert07:49
Aphex_Twinbruenig, Sionide : what's the procedure to do that?07:49
mdjakeCurrently what is the best TV application for Dapper?07:49
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Sionidemister_roboto, indeed:) i have it on my windows 2000 dual-boot07:50
THX-1138"LTS" long term service. supported by canonical for the next 5 yrs.07:50
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Zarephathclear07:50
anon32gah, k3b is a 50MB download07:50
Zoffix_man why I was never told that 6.10 is not stable =( wasted a DVD and 4 hourts =( the version number is even, what the hell07:50
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yarddog6.10 is stable07:50
ZarephathAnyone know of any information on how to get a PocketPC running mobile 5 to sync in gnome?07:50
yarddoglol07:50
SionideAphex_Twin, there's a nautilus scripts folder, if you install the script from g-scripts.sf.net it'll be under the Scripts menu on your right-click menu on nautlis07:50
yarddogat the end of the month07:51
anon32OMGWTFBBQ... wow, k3b is massive07:51
THX-1138aon32 - why not cdr-tools - command line or right click from the desktop, or gnomebaker?07:51
Sionidenautilus* can't type tonight arrgghhhh07:51
mdjakeCurrently what is the best TV application for Dapper?07:51
Zoffix_yarddog, """"Edgy is not stable, it is for development only.  Do not use this on production machines"""" <<--- topic in #ubuntu+107:51
Sionidemdjake, mythTV?07:51
_Spire_anon32: only because it needs to pull qt and some kde libs07:51
SionideZoffix_, Edgy is 6.1007:51
yarddogZoffix_, in about 3 weeks, it is stable07:51
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SionideZoffix_, Dapper is 6.0607:51
_Spire_anon32: if you have kde installed, it's only about 2MB07:51
mdjakeSionide: does it have teletext support?07:51
blendahi! where is the dapper live cd? is it included in the desktop cd iso?07:51
devioswhy don't I find testdisk in synaptic07:51
devios?07:51
anon32Zoffix_, there's like 2 projects that use the even/odd system07:51
McNutellahow do I disable OSS  ?07:51
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_Spire_blenda: yes, it is07:51
Sionidemdjake, not sure - you'd have to ask someone who uses it, but i've heard good things about it, ask google :)07:51
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blenda_Spire_: thanks!07:52
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_Spire_blenda: the desktop cd boots into the live cd, which includes the installer07:52
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mdjakeSionide: thx for fast answer07:52
blenda_Spire_: ok!07:52
Sionidemdjake, http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythFeatures07:52
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carl_Spire_ : yes07:52
Sionidemdjake, no worries, that's why #ubuntu rocks your socks:)07:52
Aphex_TwinSinoide: hm... I think this is what I was looking for: http://tinyurl.com/p77m207:52
_Spire_carl: hmm?07:52
chaosmeikaAre there any users familiar with installing ubuntu 6 on an iMac G3? I need some assistance.07:52
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SionideAphex_Twin, that looks good.. thanks for the link cos i've been looking for that too.. heh07:53
carl_Spire_ : sorry07:53
THX-1138blenda - the standard cd doesn't initialise the mount command for hd partitions only, cd/dvd drives. not sure why. (security? liability?)07:53
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SionideAphex_Twin, i also use this; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38938 (looks like forums are down but bookmark it and check back later!) it's awesome07:53
Zoffix_Sionide, ok, when I run zoffix@zoffix:~$ locate inittab  I get this: /usr/lib/upstart/migrate-inittab.pl     should I run this script or what?07:53
blendaTHX-1138: ok, but I guess i can do this manually?07:53
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Aphex_TwinSinoide: This was a very functional feature of Konqueror, I'm surprised it did not get into gnome's Nautilus07:53
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TheGateKeeperchaosmeika: nope, and what is your specific question?07:54
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SionideAphex_Twin, it is... it's just like firefox extensions, all the brilliant functionality *some* people like can be added in, no troubles07:54
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SionideZoffix_, really not sure, i'm just saying it's ok on my machine so i've no idea how to proceed on yours.. sorry07:54
Zoffix_Sionide, well, it seems like the script won't even run, because it checks to see if there is /etc/inittab and it is not there =(07:55
THX-1138blenda - i might guess that the "alternate install" text mode cd includes the ability to write to hard disk but haven't tried it. (psst, shhh - I use the knoppx cd. - gack don't tell anyone)07:55
SionideAphex_Twin, it's "Sionide" hehe, if you spell it wrong, it doesn't highlight to me what you've said!07:55
Zoffix_I am confused, it has to be somewhere, right?07:55
SionideZoffix_, i dunno i guess you could copy mine and put it there manually, yourself?? i'm just guessing now..07:55
carlhi, i have a toshiba gigabeat s (sync with MTP) did anyone know a program compatible with this playforsure (MTP)07:55
pike_is there some other config file for launching getty and such in edgy?07:55
blendaTHX-1138: maybe i should get my hands on a knoppix cd too :-)07:55
sproingienot having an inittab seems like bad news.  init won't run anything if there isn't one, no?07:55
Zoffix_Sionide, yeah that would be a decent idea07:56
Aphex_TwinSionide: ah, sorry for that07:56
mister_robotoSionide: that's funny you say that. when you were talking to me earlier you weren't typing any name at all  :)07:56
THX-1138Aphex_Twin: Do you know a_pha?07:56
bruenig!upstart07:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about upstart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:56
Zoffix_Sionide, can you paste it? http://sial.org/pbot/07:56
Aphex_TwinTHX-1138: no. what's that?07:56
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Sionidemister_roboto, i usually do, but if i've just said something to someone and i say another line, i usually don't bother on the second line but maybe i should07:56
bruenigZoffix_, maybe this has something to do with it? Just a guess http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstart07:56
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THX-1138blenda - the dvd image has all three install modes for ubuntu. (dvds install faster and the image includes more avail packages )07:57
_Spire_THX-1138: What about writing to the hard drive? (I haven't been paying attention) The desktop CD can too.07:57
SionideZoffix_, so are you not even able to properly boot up at all then or what?07:57
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blendaTHX-1138: too bad i don't have a working dvd burner then :_(07:57
blendaTHX-1138: but thanks for the hint anyway07:58
chaosmeikaTheGateKeeper> Well, Im not that familiar with ubuntu, but I wanted to load my G3 with that as an OS instead of the default os9. I burned myself a copy of powerpc for it and went to install, only to run into an error. Is there something that I need to do before installing?07:58
Zoffix_Sionide, no, it boots up fine, but in graphical mode, I want it to boot in text mode07:58
THX-1138Aphex_Twin: Just someone here yesterday, they wanted help with the assistive applications - low vision.07:58
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_Spire_chaosmeika: what error?07:58
Zoffix_bruno__, hm, yes makes sense, I wonder how do I change it to boot in the text mode now07:58
SionideZoffix_, ah i see, but i'm wondering *how* can it boot up fine if there is no inittab ?07:58
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SionideZoffix_, ctrl+alt+f1 or f2 or f3 etc07:58
_Spire_Sionide: isn't it a different boot system07:58
host`how do I edit the servers/services that start up on boot?07:59
carlanyone know how to sync device (mp3 player) with MTP on linux ?07:59
SionideZoffix_, oh right oops to boot i dunno..07:59
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THX-1138_Spire_: It can? - i saw a message during boot that said not initialising mount" - couldn't convince it later to see and cp fles to a second drie.07:59
pike_host`: if you look in /etc/init.d/ those are the scripts that run. you can sudo update-rc.d -f scriptname remove  or i think there are front ends for that07:59
_Spire_THX-1138: it should... just go to the terminal and 'sudo mount /dev/hdwhatever'08:00
Zoffix_Sionide, hehe, I know of that, I just need to reboot the X without rebooting the whole system, it seems that the reason why I can't find inittab is because of that Upstart thing, I'm reading now :)08:00
pike_host`: removing only removes the sym links in the rc.d directories under /etc/ you can still run the script manually like sudo /etc/init.d/scripname start08:00
THX-1138_Spire_ - Will do.08:00
host`thanks pike_08:00
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TheGateKeeperchaosmeika: first off I am never used mac stuff so beware of anything I say, however sounds like the same problem windows users have, you need to repartition your disc to accept linux, I would recommend resizing first before going the whole distance removing your old partition08:01
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SionideZoffix_, awesome, good thinking from bruenig then08:01
_Spire_THX-1138: although you should unmount before you install - there's a bug in the installer that makes it crash if a partition is mounted before it starts (at least for me, they might have fixed it now)08:01
THX-1138_Spire_ - What limits does the terminal impose on filename length?08:01
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Aphex_Twindo you need to reboot the computer to get nautilus to load plugins?08:01
edgarinHi I have a problem with the ubuntu 6.06 and my skype, when i try to call in skype show a error: Problem with sound device, ideas????08:01
_Spire_THX-1138: I'm not sure, though it's plenty long (like 255 characters or something around that)08:02
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TheGateKeeperchaosmeika: I would imagine that the gparted livecd may be of use here08:02
Sionideedgarin, kill skype, kill anything else which might be using the soundcard, go to a terminal, type "killall esd" then "esd" you should hear some beeps, then run skype and try phoning someone -- that works for me08:02
Sionideedgarin, OR download the Skype Beta .deb file and I think that works better :)08:03
thatGuy_ hey08:03
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edgarinok08:03
TheGateKeeperchaosmeika: assuming I am not complete rubbish08:03
thatGuy_is there someone in here that can find what the last thing i said in here was?08:03
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thatGuy_please08:03
pike_edgarin: i use ekiga as an alternative to skype works very well and is open but i know alot of people need skype08:03
reverieHeya guys.08:03
thatGuy_its a command that i want to save08:03
jribthatGuy_: "hey"08:03
thatGuy_hey08:03
thatGuy_lol08:03
thatGuy_no08:03
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thatGuy_about an hour ago08:03
reverieI finally got my motherboard to post.08:03
Sionidepike_, does ekiga connect to the skype network?08:03
THX-1138_Spire_ "cp /media/sda1/linux_fresh/gstreamer0.8-esd_0.8.12-1ubuntu2_i386.deb  /home/bill/Desktop " created an error. - bad spelling maybe?08:03
thatGuy_starts with "sudo"08:03
pike_Sionide: nope thats the problem skype is closed08:04
pike_:(08:04
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jribthatGuy_: sudo aptitude purge gnome-bin gnome-desktop-data gnome-panel gnome-panel-data gnome-utils gnome-libs-data gnome-control-center nautilus libgnome32 libgnomeui32 libgnomesupport0 gnome-session libgnorba27 libglade-gnome0 gnomp308:04
Sionidepike_, well skype wins then...08:04
thatGuy_yes!  thanks08:04
Sionide*shrug*08:04
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Sionidepike_, it's the way of the world :(08:04
_Spire_THX-1138: wait, are you running the livecd right now?08:04
thatGuy_it actually got rid of gnome08:04
thatGuy_now to re-install and see if that fixes the problem08:04
haffeDoes anyone here have any experiience with suspend2 or is there an alternate way to get my nforce2 motherboard to do hibernate?08:04
THX-1138_Spire_ no, - my first halting steps at bash scripting.08:04
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_Spire_THX-1138: Oh, ok. That should work. What's the error?08:05
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revolutionskateI am having a problem with configuring my NVidia drivers with dapper... I have the nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common packages installed.  Then I ran sudo nvidia-glx-config enable and restart and the nvidia driver is not being loaded08:05
khaije1anyone one know if the edgy release will support xen-style virtualization as a guest?08:05
khaije1or would it need the usual patch...08:06
CoolCubixAphex_Twin, you windowlicker ? ^^08:06
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THX-1138_Spire_  - nvm - likely a spelling error. how would i dpk -i install everything in a directory?08:06
_Spire_THX-1138: sudo dpkg -i *.deb08:06
THX-1138s/dpk/dpkg/g08:07
chaosmeikaTheGateKeeper>ok, ill looking into the gparted ubuntu install and see if that is a better solution than using the powerpc version08:07
rahmielSetting up filesharing in my network.. I can access all the windows machines and files, but when a windows user tries to access my machine and files it prompts them for a login. My normal login doesn't work nor does a new user I setup. What am I missing?08:07
chaosmeikaTheGateKeeper>thanks for the assistance.08:07
Aphex_Twinis there a (lightweight) text editor out there that can perform automatic code indenting and highliting? (the indenting is more important)08:07
gksudoHello, is there a way to remove all gnome apps? Is removing libgtk a way to do so?08:07
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THX-1138_Spire_ will it install them in the required order. resolve dependencies?08:07
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eriderAphex_Twin:  nano08:08
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_Spire_THX-1138: I'm not sure about in the required order - it just installs them in some order08:08
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bulio|is there a command-line program that automatically tags music?08:08
pike_gksudo: thats the only way i know to do it. remove a popular dependancy08:08
TheGateKeeperchaosmeika: gparted livecd just has a partitioner on it, you will still need your powerpc ubuntu install disc08:08
SAM_themanwho here has xmms?08:08
SAM_themaninstalled..08:08
jribSAM_theman: probably a lot of people08:08
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_Spire_THX-1138: if you want to resolve dependencies, that's what apt-get/aptitude was build for08:08
TheGateKeeperchaosmeika: gparted livecd is just a tool08:09
bulio|no one?08:09
Aphex_Twinerider: this only indents while the text is being written, but is there an editor that can indent ugly code?08:09
SAM_themanwell i am having a problem with the equalizer08:09
THX-1138_Spire_ - so i could alpabetise/rename them?08:09
SAM_themanit dosn't work08:09
_Spire_THX-1138: *built08:09
jribbulio|: id3v2 comes up in a search08:09
eriderAphex_Twin: have you tried vim08:09
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THX-1138_Spire_ - Okay i'll play with aptitude.08:09
Aphex_Twinerider: It frightenes me08:09
_Spire_THX-1138: I'm not too sure... but you could try alphabatising them. btw, what are you trying to install?08:09
rahmielSetting up filesharing in my network.. I can access all the windows machines and files, but when a windows user tries to access my machine and files it prompts them for a login. My normal login doesn't work nor does a new user I setup. What am I missing?08:10
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pike_Aphex_Twin: vim with syntax on is a joy :)08:10
THX-1138_Spire_  xcompmgr - beryl gives me vertigo.08:10
_Spire_THX-1138: be sure to read it's manpage08:10
_Spire_THX-1138: xcompmgr? that should be a sime08:10
_Spire_THX-1138: *simple "sudo aptitude install xcompmgr"08:11
chaosmeikaTheGateKeeper> ah ok. Is that tool located on the ubuntu website? If not, Ill do a search, but I wanted to know before hand...08:11
bsnideris there a way to change gnome's color scheme?08:11
THX-1138_Spire_: I will need to point it at a directory.08:11
Aphex_Twinerider, pike_: the opportunity costs of learning vim outweigh the bulkiness of Eclipse (for Java at least)08:11
_Spire_THX-1138: why?08:11
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eriderAphex_Twin: its not that bad try vimtutor08:11
jribbsnider: you can use a different theme08:12
THX-1138_Spire_ The packages are local. - xcompmgr isn't on a single repository.08:12
bsniderjrib: is that the only way?08:12
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jribbsnider: that's the only way I know of08:12
_Spire_THX-1138: it isn't? have you enabled universe? it should be there, unless you're using something predating dapper08:12
w30Aphex_Twin, there are editors or whatever you call them for writing code and keeping your indenting neat and consistant, check Google I suppose?08:12
eriderAphex_Twin: go to your command line and type: vimtutor08:12
TheGateKeeperchaosmeika: gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php08:12
_Spire_THX-1138: and besides, xcompmgr is a single package.08:13
chaosmeikaTheGateKeeper> thanks08:13
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TheGateKeeperchaosmeika: np :-) hope it all works out ok08:13
THX-1138_Spire_ - Yes, it is a single package and a very cool one. - the supporting apps for composite are difficult to sync.08:13
SuperMiguelany one know how to write basic on ubuntu?08:14
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_Spire_THX-1138: that's strange... xcompmgr doesn't _have_ supporting apps when I installed it08:14
THX-1138_Spire_ - Many Thanks :) - I have learned something.08:14
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_Spire_THX-1138: one more question - what does xcompmgr want when you install it?08:15
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THX-1138_Spire_ Can i show you? - will "/xompmgr/ls > xcompmgr.txt be postable?08:16
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THX-1138pastebin08:16
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_Spire_whoops08:17
host`crappy08:17
SuperMiguelthere is any program that will allow me to write basic?08:17
kiersiehow can i put an img-file on floppy?08:17
BrunoUVhey.. can some1 tell me how i can split a file into small files with .rar extension???08:17
host`I have a little box open in the bottom right of my screen saying "Warning" and telling me that azureus didn't shut down right, and when I click hide it doesn't go away08:18
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SuperMiguelany basic ompiler?08:19
_Spire_SuperMiguel: try freebasic08:19
concept10can I update to eft from breezy without many problems?08:19
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K^Holtzi have a 320MB file that i need to be around 200.. how can i compress that with ubuntu? its a video file08:20
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pike_host`: only way ive been able to remove it is closing azureus.  one of the reasons i use ktorrent now08:20
fulldi'm trying to install dapper on a 2001 dell, and it freezes at the X splash screen - any ideas on this?08:20
ciphernemoIs there any easier way to remove directories without rm'ing the files inside and then rmdir the dir itself (no gui solutions please)?08:20
i_m_meenubotu: help08:20
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage08:20
SuperMiguel!basic08:20
Flannelciphernemo: -rf flags08:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about basic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:20
Flannelciphernemo: just be careful ;)08:20
host`pike_: I closed it08:21
K^Holtz!zip08:21
ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression08:21
Camus_SoNiCoHello, I've a doubt with evolution, can someone help me?08:21
ciphernemoFlannel: -rf flags on which command, rm?08:21
Flannelciphernemo: correct08:21
ciphernemoFlannel: ok, thx! :)08:21
host`it's still there08:21
_Spire_chaosmeika: couldn't you 'mv directory/* . && rmdir directory/'?08:21
pike_host`: if that doesn work maybe type pkill java or killall java etc08:21
Zoffix_Hm, the only relevant information I found for Upstart is """Your existing /etc/inittab should be a useful guide.""" for some reason it does not exist for me =( can someone paste that file, I'll try to put it manually (someone with Ubuntu 6.10 preferably), Thanks in advance08:21
ciphernemoFlannel: I'd ask ##kernel or #linux-kernel, but those channels are pretty much dead for users08:21
i_m_meen!ro08:21
uboturo is Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro.08:22
K^Holtzi'm sorry, i dont mean to rush, but i kinda need an answer quickly.. how can i compress my 350MB video file to around 200 on ubuntu?08:22
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FlannelZoffix_: #ubuntu+1 for Edgy support08:22
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pike_K^Holtz: what format?08:22
_Spire_host`: or almost guaranteed, kill -9 `pidof java`08:22
K^Holtzpike_: avi08:22
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howieson26!de08:23
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de08:23
pike_K^Holtz: im not sure how effective compression would be on a divx file i guess you could tar cfzv file.tar.gz target.avi08:23
i_m_meentesting ubotu romanian support08:23
i_m_meen!ro08:23
uboturo is Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro.08:23
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pike_K^Holtz: well not tar since its one file08:23
THX-1138Hi Flannel08:23
jokoonProut whoops, sorry08:23
FlannelTHX-1138: Howdy08:23
pike_K^Holtz: gzip but wont give you much08:23
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K^Holtzpike_: i basically have to put it on a flash drive to xfer it to my other computer.. but my flash drive is only 256MB08:24
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howieson26!de08:24
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de08:24
THX-1138Flannel - first it was your mention of the command line last week. then irssi. yesterday spent bash scripting - it rocks and it's all your fualt. - lol08:24
pike_K^Holtz: take a look at some file splitting progs like gfslicer and such08:25
K^Holtzpike_: ok, thanks08:25
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Zoffix_Sionide, are you still here? Can you please paste me that file? #ubuntu+1 seems to be dead for now08:25
i_m_meenubotu: ro > me08:25
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i_m_meenubotu: ro > i_m_meen08:25
matjuQuestion - is pwc.ko (for Logitech/Philips USB cameras) working on Ubuntu/PPC ? I'm trying to troubleshoot why it's printing a certain strange error message...08:25
THX-1138Flannel - still looking for spell czecking though08:25
reverieAphex_Twin, pour me an analogue bubblebath please08:25
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SuperMigueldoes any one know a basic compiler for linux?08:26
i_m_meengambas08:26
ciphernemoFlannel is the man :) I love rm -rf, just have to be careful not to hit enter too quickly by accident :)08:26
i_m_meenSuperMiguel: gambas08:26
deanzhave a problem with my installation... can anyone help?08:26
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Zarephathanyone tell me how to get libslang-dev? I assume it is part of another package?08:26
ubuntuJFPHi all, I get LiveCD working fine on m/b ASUS P5GD1 but after hd install, reboot freezes while mounting root partition. Hlp Plse!08:27
w30Aphex_Twin, check out this coding editor with various code indentations, perl C, etc. It's in the synaptic repos as fte-console08:27
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deanzneed advice on installation error... the GUI system doesn't initiate... was unable to load ubuntu... can anyone help?08:28
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dfgashow do i get xdmcp working?08:28
denflo292Hello.08:28
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pike_deanz: whats the error someone here probably can08:28
THX-1138ubuntuJFP: Does it freeze on the message "configuring network devices"? - anyway CTRL+C will halt most nettlesome troubles on boot.08:29
deanzthere is no error... it just says unable to load GUI... linux is foreign to me... so I depend on GUI installations for the moment08:29
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pike_deanz: youre unable to load the livecd or is this after the install to hard disk?08:29
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THX-1138deanz - have you seen this link?08:30
THX-1138!display08:30
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:30
denflo292I am coming here because I read that the Linksys USB Adaptator wusb54g is known to have problems being installed under Ubuntu. Does anyone have experience with this type of problem ?08:30
Aphex_Twinthanks, w3008:30
deanzunable to load the livecd08:30
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ubuntuJFPTHX-1138 Not on NIC part. I read a few pbs about a modprobe it821x to insert...08:30
THX-1138deanz: Ok, someone else knows better what tot do.08:30
pike_deanz: easiest thing might be to use the alternate install cd from ubuntu.com08:30
asdqweasdmake08:30
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xenhey08:31
THX-1138ubuntuJFP: Ok. - I have Ralink. - reformatted - (didn't know the secret salute CTRL+C08:31
xenazureus is hidden, without a tray icon, how can I bring it up?08:31
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eriderAphex_Twin: go to your command line and type: vimtutor08:32
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eriderdo anyone have both 32bit and 64bit libraries running on there system08:32
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deanzpike -- where can i find the alternate cd install?08:32
deanzpike -- i am on the website now08:32
SAM_themanxen u using it ?? me 208:33
SAM_themanI am trying to find it !!08:33
dings_How ban an ida is it to install gallery2 from debian on an ubuntu system?08:33
xenSAM_theman I'm trying to use it... :P  Not very effectively.08:33
dings_s/ban/bad08:33
SAM_themanjust open your terminal and type az....08:33
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pike_deanz: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso basically click download location and scroll down page for a link08:33
SAM_themanand it pops up ::p08:33
deanzkewl... thanks so much... i hear ubuntu is the best out there... and I want to try it bad08:34
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pike_deanz: np good luck08:34
b03ntois there update notifications for fluxbuntu ?08:34
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ubuntuJFPTHX-1138: Ctrl-C once "frozen" on waiting for root partition doesnot allow any keyboard input. I thin I need to modprobe the right module it8212.ko somwhere (what the LiveCD does well in fact..)08:34
james_ukhey, can anybody help me with a simple evolution problem?08:34
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SV452hi all08:35
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s1`_is there a source for newer versions of gaim for Dapper?08:35
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SV452how do one make a dummy package ???08:35
THX-1138ubuntuJFP: I won't be much help with this. - using wireless. i setup a fixed ip address and disabled dhcp.08:36
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siloeHi, have sucess network two PCs. What way to directory  for acess by others software ???08:36
meatfaceHowdy all!08:36
slimemonkeyAnyone recommend any java compilers and/or IDEs for ubuntu?08:36
cherubiel!samba08:36
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT08:36
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dings_Could someone tell me if there is a reason for ubuntu's gallery2 to depend on mysql without postgres as an alternative?08:37
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siloeHi, have sucess network two PCs. What way to directory  for acess by others software ???08:37
LSD`if you specify a proxy server during installation, does that get stored anywhere? If so, where?08:37
JDahlslimemonkey, Eclipse is a fairly advanced IDE08:37
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meatfaceDoes anyone know if the sound driver is loaded before you login, or after?08:37
LSD`siloe: samba08:37
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dyn-afk_before meatface08:38
ubuntuJFPTHX-1138: Thks in any case, but I am not on a network pb but a boot partition/controller driver recognition.. anyone else ?08:38
cherubiel!samba > siloe08:38
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slimemonkeyJDahl: thx08:38
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dyn-afk_the login screen produces a sound when it's done loading08:38
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meatfaceWhat could happen after the login prompt to cause a conflict with the sound driver and freeze the gui?08:38
Alakazam_nothing08:39
Alakazam_tail /var/log/messages08:39
Alakazam_do that.08:39
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erik__bonjour08:40
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WebDawgwow08:40
erik__uiuiui08:40
erik__miauuu08:40
WebDawg988 people an no ops08:40
WebDawgheh08:40
meatfacedyn-afk, I realize that their is a sound before the promt, but I was thinking along the lines of a video driver. When you boot video is working but the os loads its video driver. So I was wondering if there was a possibility of this sort of thing with sound.08:40
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FREThey all08:41
meatfacehey08:41
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FRETwhat is the command to get my ubuntu-version?08:41
FRETII#m not talking about uname...08:42
dyn-afk_there's a difference with video since there is a framebuffer08:42
egyptFRET cat /etc/issue08:42
FRETegypt, thx08:42
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slimemonkeydoes eclipse come with its own compiler?08:43
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b03ntoFRET: or lsb_release -a08:43
siloePlease!!! What common way, the system put "the shared directory" ???08:43
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boinksiloe: didn't understand your question08:43
gravesonwhat tool can i use to extract audio to mp3 files - sound juicer does not seem to extract tom mp308:44
ruff|awaysiloe, system / administration / shared folders08:44
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LSD`graveson: grip + lame08:44
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SV452hmmm - dummy packages anyone ?08:45
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b03ntois there update notifications for fluxbuntu ?08:45
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FRETb03nto, thx08:45
youserhey could anyone here help me with amsn on dapper?08:45
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egyptyouser what is your doubt ?08:46
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youserwell when i go to open amsn .95 it shows up on my panel  "starting amsn' but no window how up then it suddenly closes off the panel08:46
youserwhoops08:47
egypthm08:47
egypttry this... &amsn08:47
egyptat terminal08:47
youserwhen i go to open amsn theres no window  it just shows up in the panel as 'sarting amsn"08:47
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egyptor checkout some register files gedit /cd/etc/fstab08:48
Peisistratoshello everyone08:48
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ruff|awayyouser, have you got tcl/tk installed?08:48
ruff|awayhello Peisistratos08:48
youser&amsn told me & was syntax error near unexpected token08:48
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ZoffixHi, my system is missing /etc/inittab does anybody know how I can change the boot mode from graphical to text in this case?08:48
Peisistratoswill someone tell me if I can run ubuntu on an pc based on E6600 Intel CPU?08:48
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slimemonkeyhow do i chekc whether or not i already have jdk (java) installed?08:49
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ProN00bPeisistratos, how many megahurts does it have ?08:49
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marshalldoes anybody have a .deb of any banshee plugins?08:49
Peisistratoswell, it's 2,6GHz 64-bit08:49
youseregypt my ftsb came  up empty08:49
ruff|awayslimemonkey, dpkg -l packagename08:49
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marshallProN00b, lol megahurts08:50
Hallibutorn1http://www.ratemytumor.com/08:50
Hallibutorn1hello08:50
Hallibutorn1marshall08:50
marshallProN00b, its megahertz08:50
Peisistratosbut all the releases on its site only mention AMD support08:50
slimemonkeyruff|away; thx08:50
tgelterhow can I get gtkpod to load video files to my ipod 5g?08:50
marshallHallibutorn1, yeah?08:50
ProN00bmarshall, wrong, its megahurts08:50
Peisistratoshehe08:50
youseri dont get it man amsn worked fine on breezy but wheni upgraded to dapper it now wont open08:50
marshallProN00b, why megahurts08:50
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Hallibutorn1you marshall please stop08:51
Zoffixmarshall: yeah it's megahurts what are you talking about? =)08:51
dyn-afkIntel has only 1 64 bit processor and that's the itanium208:51
ProN00bmarshall, because it hurts mega that other people have more than me08:51
dyn-afkall the others are 32 bit08:51
marshallProN00b, o08:51
ProN00bPeisistratos, why shouldn't it run ?08:51
dyn-afksome of them have 64 bit extensions so they can do some 64 bit stuff08:51
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marshalldoes anybody have a .deb of any banshee plugins?08:51
Hallibutorn1http://www.ratemytumor.com/08:51
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Peisistratosso, what release do I download? x32 Intel?08:51
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siloxhow do i configure xorg.conf and nvidia to twinview the screen on my TV? I have already 2 screens (only one enabled), i have a Dell Inspiron 8100 Laptop08:52
youseranyone knwo how to fix amsn?08:52
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Materazzi!pastebin08:52
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)08:52
dyn-afk<Peisistratos> but all the releases on its site only mention AMD support << that's because AMD64 is the same as what Intel uses in most of it's processors like the Core 2 Duo08:52
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ruff|awayyouser, have you got tcl/tk already installed?08:52
Peisistratosoh ok dyn-afk08:52
dyn-afkAMD came up with the idea in the first place08:52
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youserhow do i know if i do?08:52
dyn-afkso the AMD64 Ubuntu version should work on both AMD and Intel processors that support it08:52
PeisistratosI getit08:52
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dyn-afklike the Core 2 Duo08:52
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Samuli^dyn-afk, yeah.08:53
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ruff|awayyouser, go to synaptic and check it yourself08:53
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dyn-afkbut mind you, those processors aren't 64 bit08:53
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dyn-afkthey just have the ability to run 64 bit software08:53
Samuli^core 2 duo is 64bit.08:53
dyn-afkbig difference08:53
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Peisistratosthanks man...yeah, they have 64-bit extensions08:53
cherubielyouser, ltrace amsn08:53
dyn-afkno, the core 2 duo is 32 bit08:53
ProN00bPeisistratos, you are still better of with a x86 because it can run more proprietary software08:53
harisundHow do I download the source for the iptables package? Is there an apt-get for downloading the sources? Is there a deb entry I have to add?08:53
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dyn-afkit has 64 bit extensions (that's what AMD64 means)08:53
b03ntois there any cli command to see if i need to upgrade something..?08:53
Samuli^dyn-afk, do you really want to start an argue about semantics?08:53
dyn-afkit's like a half implementation of 64 bit08:54
ProN00bPeisistratos, like flash and nvidia drivers08:54
LSD`b03nto: apt-get update maybe08:54
cherubielb03nto, apt-get upgrade?08:54
b03ntois there any cli command to see if i need to update something..?08:54
Peisistratosok guys...thnx 4 the help...08:54
PeisistratosI'm on board with x8608:54
cherubielb03nto, update is for updating your indexes08:54
harisundb03nto, first do apt-get update, then do apt-get upgrade08:54
slimemonkeyis it possible to install jdk without downloading self extracting files? i.e. can i do it through repositories....?08:54
LSD`dyn-afk: I'm pretty sure C2D has EMT6408:54
cherubielslimemonkey, apt-get install sun-java*08:54
b03ntoim looking a replacement for gnome update notifications, couse im using fluxbox08:54
Samuli^LSD`, it does.08:54
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xavoh crap forums are still down08:55
dyn-afkbut the 32 bit version of ubuntu is better, like ProN00b already said: there's more software for it then for the 64 bit version08:55
slimemonkeycherubiel: oh! that looks easy enough, thanks08:55
dyn-afksame goes for windowsxp08:55
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harisundHow do I download the source for the iptables package? Is there an apt-get for downloading the sources? Is there a deb entry I have to add?08:55
youserodd i never needed nor heard f tcl/tk before08:55
dyn-afkLSD` that's the same as AMD64 ;)08:55
ruff|awayyouser, amsn needs tcl/tk08:55
youseri see08:55
LSD`dyn-afk: There used to be a two instruction difference between AMD64 and EMT64, not sure if that's still the case tho08:55
cherubielyouser, apt-get install tck08:55
xavharisund, yes it's just deb-src instead of deb in sources.list08:56
cherubielyouser, apt-get install tk08:56
dyn-afkIt was designed by Advanced Micro Devices, which markets it under the name AMD64. This architecture has also been adopted under the names EM64T, IA-32e, and Intel64[1]  by Intel.08:56
youseri would have thogh t if it worked in breezy it would have camewith dapper upgrade enabled08:56
xavharisund, then apt-get source foo08:56
cherubielyouser, apt-get install tcl tk08:56
harisundxav oh .. that makes it convenient... thanks !08:56
harisundxav where do the sources get installed? I mean in which directory?08:56
xavcurrent one08:56
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xavso create one before08:56
cherubielyouser, what does ltrace amsn give ?08:56
xavand run apt-get source in it08:56
youserwhat does what/08:56
dyn-afkiptables is already installed in Ubuntu if I'n not mistaken08:56
youserahh one sec08:57
harisunddyn-afk, iptables is installed. I want the source.08:57
dyn-afkyou just need to set it up08:57
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Psychobudgieyouser,  if you are going to install amsn, I'd wait till the forums are back up08:57
dyn-afkok, that's different :P08:57
cherubielyouser, type "ltrace amsn" and paste the results in a pastebin08:57
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tgelterin this webpage (http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/initial-linux-support-for-the-5g-video-ipod-video-sync-using-gtkpod-libgpod) it says to apply a patch that can be downloaded there...to run a patch, do I just make it +x and try to run it in the same directory as the files it is supposed to modify?08:57
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youserltrace: Can't open ELF file "/usr/bin/amsn"08:57
harisundok thanks xav..08:57
Psychobudgieyouser, theres an alternative source which will provide the latest version of TCL along with AMSN which will enable anti aliasing fonts along with other things08:58
cute_bettongcan anyone tell me why ubuntu dosen't see the full 256mb of ram on my geforce fx 5500?08:58
Psychobudgieyouser,  theres a thread on the official forum that documents what to do08:58
=== w30 pasted my inittab on pastbin (dapper)
cherubielyouser, do you see the binary at /usr/bin ?08:58
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xavtgelter, you need to get the sources, then apply the patch using patch, then compile the program08:59
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ProN00bcute_bettong, how much does it see ?08:59
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friendziswould ubuntu work on 200mhz and 64mb ram?08:59
cute_bettongim not sure ProN00b but my game reports only 12808:59
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xavfriendzis, I wouldn't try ubuntu gnome desktop on that09:00
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w30just cut and paste that to a file anc name it inittab09:00
youseryeah the file is in usr/bin09:00
cute_bettongis there a way to quiry the card to see?09:00
youserits a sh file09:00
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ruff|awayfriendzis, not with gnome09:00
xavfriendzis, a simple window manager could maybe run09:00
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ProN00bfriendzis, maybe xubuntu, but i wouldn't bet on it09:01
ruff|awayfriendzis, try fluxbuntu :D09:01
friendzisso i shouldn't even try it?09:01
xavyep09:01
b03ntofriendzis: what about fluxbuntu, xubuntu still heavy...09:01
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xavfriendzis, try a simple window manager09:01
Gabby_Hayesfriendzis  .. if you use that system, try to have two HDs .. and a swap on each HD ... helps your system09:01
ruff|awayopenbox is very lightweight09:01
gandolfthewizar1hi09:02
youserE: Release 'tk' for 'tcl' was not found09:02
xavfriendzis, there are plenty of them. fluxbox is just one, some others are even lighter09:02
ZarephathI get this error message with subversion: svn: Can't make directory 'libsynce': No such file or directory  anyone tell me what is up?09:02
ruff|awayyouser, tcl8.509:02
NAuthoriousnewbie having problems with getting his internet connection up and running under drapper drake09:02
ruff|awayyouser, tk8.509:02
gandolfthewizar1looking for help with java09:02
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yousercani apt-get those?09:02
RopechoborraWich is the command to upgrade to edgy ?09:02
friendzisi see09:02
ruff|awayRopechoborra, update-manager -c -d09:03
b03ntoxav: what xav, i need something lighter too..09:03
friendzisthis pc works quite fine under win 9809:03
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ruff|awayyouser, u'd better do that from within synaptic09:03
=== w30 sees twm in the repositories in Synaptic, maybe thats too light.
ZarephathRopechoborra: You will have to edit your repos first..then sudo apt-get distupgrade09:03
xavb03nto, lighter than what ?09:03
b03ntolighter than xubuntu...09:03
xavb03nto, you could start trying fluxbox09:03
b03ntonicer than fluxbox...09:03
marshalldoes anybody happen to have the rezlooks .deb lying around?09:03
RopechoborraZarephath it says invalid operation09:04
ruff|awayRopechoborra, alt+f2 then type in there gksudo "update-manager -c -d"09:04
Zarephathrff|away: Really...update manager can do it too?09:04
youserhmm theyre both istalled09:04
Gabby_Hayesfriendzis  .. I have had a linux system on a 133 with 64Mb of ram  working at one time  (RH)09:04
ruff|awayicewm is a nice alternative too09:04
xavb03nto, nicer in which area?09:04
slimemonkeywhat is the difference between the synaptic package manager, aptitude, and apt-get, other than just the interfaces?09:04
youserso i have tcl/tk installed but no amsn09:04
ZarephathRopechoborra: Did you change where your repositories are pointed? try ruff|away suggestion09:04
ruff|awayZarephath, yep yep.. i've updated to edgy yesterday :D09:04
RopechoborraOk09:04
RopechoborraTy09:04
cherubielyouser, you haven't installed it??09:04
agentis having a kernel tagged #2 smp in /proc/version normal if one is without smp? don't remember this in dapper09:05
youserinstalled what?09:05
b03ntoit has something like gnome-update-notifications09:05
cherubielyouser, amsn?09:05
xavb03nto, anyway, it's very easy to try plenty of window manager. just install them, and choose the one you want in the login manager09:05
Zarephathruff|away: Kewl thanks...only knew the command line way until now..heh09:05
youseryes09:05
youseri have amsninstalled09:05
Ropechoborraruff|away can i upgrade wile im using the pc ?09:05
friendzisGabby_Hayes and it's better than win?09:05
youseri evenuninstalled and reinstalled09:05
ruff|awayRopechoborra, yep09:05
Gabby_Hayesfriendzis  .. it was better than any M$  product, yes09:05
Zarephathruff|away: Do you know if edgy will support syncing to PocketPC with Mobile 5 OS?09:05
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ruff|awayZarephath, i've had problems with nautilus when i tried to update into edgy by changin' the sources.list09:06
cherubielfriendzis, whats your need dude?09:06
xavb03nto, you could try enlightenment, openbox, icewm, fvwm, windowmaker, wmii09:06
ruff|awayZarephath, yep prolly yes09:06
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cherubielfriendzis, try wmaker - amazingly light, low memory footprint09:06
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ruff|awaywindowmaker is crap09:06
friendzischerubiel some1 said that ubuntu is quite good thing09:06
ruff|awaylol09:06
xavruff|away, why ?09:06
youserubuntu kicks ass09:06
ruff|awaytoo outdated09:07
ruff|awaytry something newer09:07
youserive been off windows for about a month now09:07
xavruff|away, the look is quite bad, but it's quite interesting09:07
dfgashow do i change my hostname?09:07
cherubielruff|away, waht are you on now??09:07
ruff|awaygnome09:07
LSD`youser: could have fooled me :P09:07
dyn-afk<Zarephath> ruff|away: Do you know if edgy will support syncing to PocketPC with Mobile 5 OS? << prolly not09:07
ruff|awaygot to love the gnome thingy :D09:07
youserlol09:07
gandolfthewizar1how do i install jave run time for linux09:07
xavruff|away, there are great ideas in wmaker09:07
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dyn-afkwm5 is limited to syncing with activesync and outlook on windows09:07
b03ntothanks xav, do you know how to see what i need to update from cli, something like gnome-update-notifications..?09:07
youseri hope ubuntuforums is back up soon09:07
cherubielgandolfthewizar1, apt-get install sun-java-jre09:07
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friendzisok thanks for help :]  going to bed ;] 09:08
w30agent, same here. I don't know if there is bloat with that or not. I suppose how much extra computer you have (cpu, memory, hard drive) matters whether you want it or not. My install works fine though.09:08
xavb03nto, well, I just update on cli like you said, I don't need something like gnome-update-notifications09:08
ruff|awayxav, i like openbox better :)09:08
slimemonkeygandolfthewizar1 check in the synaptic manager for sun-java-jre, apt-get works too09:08
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xavb03nto, ie run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and that's it09:08
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LSD`speaking of edgy, is it possible to go from 6.06 -> 6.10 just by changing your sources list?09:09
agentw30: smp = support for 2 or more processors09:09
gandolfthewizar1do i open ter and do that09:09
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slimemonkeyi, only recently, switched entirely to dapper..should i update to edgy?09:09
ruff|awayLSD`, u'd better do a update-manager -c -d09:09
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b03ntoxav, yeah but i dont want to update all the stuff.. i have very slow net connection09:09
LSD`ruff|away: will check that out, thanks09:09
ruff|awayyw09:10
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agentw30: however, i just found out that by default, all kernels since dapper support smp regardless of whether it's used or not09:10
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frodois there a problem if i added ubuntu edgy repositories in dapper ?09:10
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rufflesfrodo, it depends... i tried that and got no luck09:10
w30agent, must not hurt much then.09:10
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agentfrodo: yes, you should not use edgy repo in dapper!09:10
frodowhat happened09:11
cherubielfrodo, don't mix two releases..09:11
frodoOk09:11
rufflessome package updates appeared and it broke my system after the update was finished09:11
cherubielfrodo, what you could try is apt pinning..09:11
agentw30: it does not... it's disabled if not used... however, i had though that ubuntu had two version of each kernel, one with smp and one without... that changed in with dapper and i never noticed09:11
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frodoill wait the new to upgrade09:11
xavcherubiel, I believe you shouldn't mix them09:12
slimemonkeywhat are the new features of edgy over dapper?09:12
rufflesedgy is already stable09:12
slimemonkeyis edgy simply an unstable version of dapper?09:12
slimemonkeyoh..09:12
slimemonkeynvm09:12
rufflesslimemonkey, it boots up faster09:12
slimemonkeyruffles: anything else?09:12
gh0ztsup09:12
xavit's still very slow to boot imo09:12
rufflesand gnome 2.16 is faster as well09:12
teekay_sup?09:12
jaekanyone know the name of that utility that uses xtest to emit key presses?09:12
amonbishsup?09:12
StAfZe6sup?09:12
xavlike 1 min09:12
SR`DJ-Buglooking for a channel that discusses about XChat09:12
rufflesSlicerDicer, and some other changes but nothing really impressive09:12
cherubielxav, apt pinning gives a mostly stable system.. atleast i have one! :)09:12
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agentslimemonkey: search forum for gnome changes :) also new photo manager, etc.09:12
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slimemonkeyhow do i check which version of the kernel i have and which version of gnome i have?09:13
teekay_you tell me09:13
gh0ztyou tell me ;)09:13
xavit's possible to boot in 30/40 sec using other distro09:13
amonbish?09:13
slimemonkeyagent: oooh...09:13
StAfZe6fun09:13
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rufflesslimemonkey, uname -r09:13
slimemonkeyruffles: thx09:13
slimemonkeyruffles: thats kernel edition?09:13
slimemonkeyruffles: err... verison?09:13
SR`DJ-Buglooking for a channel that discusses about XChat09:13
rufflesuname -r gives you your kernel version09:13
agentslimemonkey: your kernel version09:13
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b03ntocan i use something like apt-get -t edgy install <package> if i want something from edgy repo09:14
nicolas,,09:14
agentSR`DJ-Bug: #xchat - duh? :)09:14
slimemonkeyruffles: ok cool but you mentioned something about gnome 2.6 being faster? how do i check my gnome version?09:14
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xavb03nto, again, you shouldn't mix the two09:14
nicolashi everybody09:14
rufflesslimemonkey, if you're runnin' dapper you got 2.1409:14
xavb03nto, that's what backports are for09:14
rufflesslimemonkey, system / about gnome09:14
slimemonkeyruffles: ok..is there a way to up[date though?09:14
rufflesslimemonkey, only if you update into edgy09:15
xavb03nto, you need to recompile the newer programs against your system09:15
slimemonkeyruffles; ok thx09:15
cherubielb03nto: apt pinning,09:15
nicolasi got a serious prob with key config so,ebody please help09:15
agentslimemonkey: gnome-about for gnome version09:15
cherubielxav: http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html09:15
slimemonkeyagent: ok09:15
nicolasa insted of q09:15
b03ntocherubiel, yes something like that09:15
agentslimemonkey: or click system -> about gnome :)09:16
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nicolas, insted of m09:16
cherubielb03nto: it works.09:16
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slimemonkeyagent: ok got it. 2.14..(with dapper)09:16
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agentslimemonkey: 2.16.1 with edgy (so far)09:16
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rufflesslimemonkey, to update to edgy: alt+f2 / gksudo "update-manager -c -d"09:16
cherubielthe ozzman cometh :)09:16
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slimemonkeywhen upgrading the distro to edgy...will i need to refrain from using my comp?09:17
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acc3ssDoes anybody know how to set up my network after installing?09:17
sinizzlhello09:17
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agentruffles: better to give out the official upgrade wiki09:17
slimemonkeyruffles: when upgrading my distro...can i still work?09:17
rufflesagent, i dunno it though09:17
jribslimemonkey: only to resume it when it breaks :)  But yeah you can use other stuff while you upgrade09:17
rufflesslimemonkey, yep you can09:17
agentslimemonkey: its best not to use your comp... it will be 100cpu once it starts installing :D09:17
sinizzlwhat is the straightest way to install the newest nvidia drivers on edgy eft? the "standard" one is 1.0-8774 but i want the 1.0-9XXX series09:17
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jrib!edgy09:18
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule09:18
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gyhu!schedule09:18
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule09:18
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swartzAnyone know how to stop GNOME from showing mounts on the Desktop?09:18
agentruffles: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades09:18
agentslimemonkey: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades09:18
rufflesagent, thanks :D09:18
b03ntocherubiel: thanks for the info, so i just need to create /etc/apt/preferences09:18
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cherubielb03nto: yes.09:19
dyn-afkswartz you need to open gconf (which you can do wilt alt-f2 and then type gconf)09:19
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acc3ssI used the alternate CD to install Ubuntu, and at the time my computer wasn't connected to the internet so I selected "set up network at a later time". How should I go about configuring it now?09:19
agent!upgrade09:19
ubotuUpgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes09:19
cherubielb03nto: and follow the usage pattern09:19
ClarrisaI have SSL working great with apache, but I need a good HowTo on the easiest way to add password authentication to it.  Have any good ones you can point me to?09:19
swartzI'm there.09:19
eraccHmmm, is there a network install option for *buntu that runs over the internet from repositories? FWIW, that is how I installed most of my Mandriva systems and want to do the same with xubuntu, et al.09:19
dyn-afkwhen gconf is open go to apps > nautilus > desktop and unmark "volumes visable"09:19
jrib!install09:19
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues09:19
swartzSweet!  Thanks, bro!09:20
b03ntookay cherubiel, its good to know this trick...09:20
agent!edgy09:20
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule09:20
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dyn-afkthere is a disadvantage about disabling that function though swartz09:20
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acc3ss!schedule09:20
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule09:20
swartzIt worked good for Gentoo, what is it?09:20
dyn-afkyou need to go to places > computer09:20
xavb03nto, cherubiel maybe it can work. just be aware it might be problematic, in case something screw up09:20
swartzI forgot the path.09:20
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youseri need wish running for amsn to work right?09:20
acc3ss!network09:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about network - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:20
dyn-afkif you want to be able to unmount something like an usb drive09:20
cherubieli agree xav its risky,09:20
eraccHmmm, I looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation and didn't see the answer. Guess I will go look again.09:20
gandolfthewizar1how do i get java again09:20
swartzNope, Disk Mounter's got that covered.09:21
Yggdrasildoes anyone know anything about this: Ethernet controller: Sundance Technology Inc: Unknown device 0200 (09:21
cherubielgandolfthewizar1: apt-get install sun-java*09:21
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rufflesYggdrasil, i've had tons of trouble with this card09:21
cherubielgandolfthewizar1: it grabs *everything*09:21
gandolfthewizar1were do type that09:21
cherubielgandolfthewizar1: open up a terminal or switch to a vc09:21
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rufflesYggdrasil, so i bought another one with realtek chipset and vo-l09:21
jribubotu: tell gandolfthewizar1 about java09:21
b03ntodont worry xav, im not gonna use it now, maybe if i get bored :)09:21
Yggdrasilruffles hmm fresh install. its an onboard card. yea i stuck another card in there allready to work on the box but jsut curious.. pice of junk then huh09:22
youserwhat sucks is having to remount your windows hard drive every time you restart ubuntu09:22
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jribyouser: put it in fstab09:22
rufflesYggdrasil, yep.. its driver only works on specific kernel versions09:22
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jribubotu: tell youser about ntfs09:22
dyn-afk<swartz> Nope, Disk Mounter's got that covered. << nice :)09:22
Yggdrasilcan we mount up ntfs drives ?09:22
cherubielyouser: enter it into /etc/fstab09:22
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Yggdrasilruffles thank ill just leave it be then.09:22
rufflesYggdrasil, yep09:22
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danny_IM having problems getting my sansa mp3 player to mount with ubuntu anyone have any ideas? My other external drive mounts fine but not mp3 player09:23
Yggdrasiluntil more is worked out for it.. never heard of it before09:23
gandolfthewizar1this is what i get wqhen i do that09:23
Yggdrasilruffles yep to which ?09:23
Yggdrasilhaha09:23
gandolfthewizar1Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/l09:23
dyn-afkyggdrasil...hmmz, almost thought you were the server from work09:23
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cherubielgandolfthewizar1: sudo apt-get install sun-java*09:23
rufflesYggdrasil, u can mount ntfs drivers09:23
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rufflesdrives09:23
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Yggdrasilahh yea right.. can you mount em r,w ywt ?09:23
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youserso i just windows the driveinformation and put it inwith the rest of the stuff in my fstab?09:24
cherubiel!ntfs09:24
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse09:24
yousercucurrently my windows hard drive doesnt show up in there09:24
cherubielyouser: yep09:24
yousercool09:24
jribdanny_: I /think/ (I don't own one) that you can set the sansa to use different modes.  Is it set to act like a usb storage device?09:24
rufflesYggdrasil, well.. u can.. but u'll need some tweaking09:24
Yggdrasilahh last time i checked i was told it was dangerous to do09:24
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danny_jrib, im not sure ill see if it will let me change the nodes inside it09:24
danny_that is how it worked with windows thogh as usb storage device09:25
firstc520has anyone here gotten an ATI radeon xpress 200m   3d accell to work for them?09:25
NormalWhen using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, Should I stick with the default video card bus identifier(PCI:7:0:0)? Would changing this somehow fix  me not being able to use my graphics accelerator?09:25
danny_jrib, there is a msc and mtp usb mode in the player09:25
ubuntuJFPgandolfthewizard: perm denied on lock file : you are not root to remove the 'lock' leftover from a previous dpkg abruptly stopped09:25
gandolfthewizar1can't find it09:25
host`what's a good media player that supports lots of different formats?09:25
jribdanny_: I don't know what those mean so just try the other one :)09:26
cherubielhost`: mplayer09:26
XalVLC09:26
danny_ok ill play around with that a bit for now, thanks09:26
jribdanny_: http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:WDF8mA0HNHUJ:www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-235700.html+mount+sansa+ubuntu&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2 msc is what you want09:26
gandolfthewizar1so how do i get read of the lock?09:26
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danny_ok thanks jrib09:27
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rufflesVLC rulz!09:27
ruffles:D09:27
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ClarrisaSurvey:  What folders do you have in your linux path?09:27
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jribdanny_: I was thinking of buying one actually, how is it?  Are you satisfied with it?09:27
ubuntuJFPgandolfthewizard: su root then rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock to delete the file09:27
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gandolfthewizar1this is what it tells me09:28
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gandolfthewizar1albert@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install sun-java*09:29
gandolfthewizar1Reading package lists... Done09:29
gandolfthewizar1Building dependency tree... Done09:29
gandolfthewizar1E: Couldn't find package sun-java*09:29
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ronnieanyone around that can help me out?09:29
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paul0hi09:29
ronniehello09:29
paul0someone is using apt-build in amd64?09:29
Mercergandolf, you can't use wildcards.09:29
Yggdrasilso basicly to get ntfs you need to compile a kernel with r.w support huh ?09:29
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ronnietrying to figure out how to usgrade my system without downloading and burning a new cd09:29
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faisal_devening all09:30
jribubotu: tell ronnie about upgrade09:30
jribubotu: tell gandolfthewizar1 about paste09:30
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gandolfthewizar1i have no clue what you are sying lol09:30
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jribgandolfthewizar1: when someone tells ubotu to tell you something, ubotu should send you a private message with information to help you09:30
highneko!flash09:30
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:30
hardkaarehas anyone got xen running with winxp as guest?09:30
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ronnieno message was sent09:31
hardkaareI would like to play some games under ubuntu, but wine cant handle them yet09:31
acc3ssSome games run on wine.09:31
acc3ssI know StarCraft does. =D09:31
faisal_di have dapper installed, and my mouse keeps on disconnecting... i have to unplug it and replug it for it to work, any ideas how to get rid of that?09:31
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cherubielgandolfthewizar1: try apt-get install sun-java5-jdk09:32
sredojevicsHow great artwork will be for Ubuntu 6.10 release, congrats to all involved!09:32
cherubielhardkaare: use cedega09:32
yousernoone knows  about my amsn problem huh?09:32
acc3ssDoes anybody know if I can use my wireless laptop to transfer the internet connection through a cable to my desktop?09:32
cherubiel!cegeda09:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cegeda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:32
faisal_d!cedega09:32
ubotucedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega09:32
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eraccFor a network install this is all I see <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot> but is not what I want. The other URLS given me by the invocation of !install with ubotu also do not tell me if I can do a network install off an internet repository using a *buntu boot diskette or CD.09:33
cherubiel:)09:33
faisal_d:)09:33
youseri tried crossover office last night09:33
youserit fucking sucked09:33
eraccSo, someone want to take a stab at answering instead of just using the bot? :-)09:33
youserhalfway through instalation i cancelled it09:33
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faisal_dyouser, you didn't like an application that you didn't try???09:33
sureshothey my kids are watchin please watch the language09:33
youserit wanted me to find netscape to install shockwave09:34
youseri needed it on mozilla09:34
yousersaid i couldtgo further till i found my netscape plugins09:34
youserwhich i didnt have netscape anywhere09:34
gandolfthewizar1still no09:34
ubuntuJFPacc3ss: sounds more an IpCop job... I am right ?09:34
annetteubuntu en adsl tijdsurfen van hetnet; gaat dit lukken??09:34
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ProN00bcan anyone give me a xorg.conf for nvidia dualscreen ?09:34
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cherubiel!nl09:35
ubotuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl09:35
acc3ssI don't know. I just want to connect my other desktop to the internet using my laptop as a wireless receiver, essentially.09:35
youserlol09:35
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Hoxzerhow do I ran a program in second x?09:35
bdfhm, I've got a weird issue with screen and nucurses and what appears to be utf-8, basically screen is ignoring line characters such as those used in aptitude09:35
gandolfthewizar1i had it last night but i forgot what i did to get it09:35
youserahh sorry about the language09:35
bdfany ideas?09:36
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hardkaarecherubiel: are you using it?09:36
sureshoteracc hey what up man09:36
ubuntuJFPacc3ss: Have a look at ipcop then with all the security issues addressed in Blue interface, Green and Red ones..09:36
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youserltrace: Can't open ELF file "/usr/bin/amsn"??09:36
eraccHi sureshot. Trying to find a way to do an internet install of *buntu off a boot CD. :-)09:36
jriberacc: is this what you want? http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Netinstall09:36
deltabbdf: ignoring?09:36
acc3ssubuntuJFP: Thanks.09:36
acc3ss!ipcop09:36
eraccjrib, I'll look thanks.,09:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ipcop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:37
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bdfdeltab: yeah, it repaces them with a weird character09:37
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sureshoteracc never have done that sorry i wish i could help09:37
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cherubielyouser: pm ?09:37
bdfreplaces*09:37
youseryou never answered me09:37
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cherubielyouser: are you registersed?09:37
cherubiel!register09:38
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration09:38
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youserno im not regstered but i willg o do that now09:38
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gandolfthewizar1i am still getting the same error09:39
acc3ssWhy refer to it as *buntu?09:39
cherubielyouser: you won't get any pms unless you register09:39
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jribgandolfthewizar1: which error?09:39
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youseru pmed me first and said hey?09:39
pippijnhi all09:39
gandolfthewizar1can't find the java files09:39
gandolfthewizar1when i go and get apt09:39
jribgandolfthewizar1: have you enabled multiverse?09:39
freddybidouillesalut09:39
freddybidouilletout le monde09:39
freddybidouilleen forme?09:39
jrib!fr09:39
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.09:39
NormalI had 1152x768 last night(my native's 1440x900, but i'll take any widescreen res), but when I rebooted, it's back to 1024x768..What do I do?09:39
jauxhi, could anyone help me about my "GWGET"?09:40
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jrib!ask09:40
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:40
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youser     /msg nickserv set hide email on09:40
faisal_dNormal, did you modify your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?09:40
pippijnmy broadcom network card can't seem to connect to the network09:40
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paul0libsdl1.2-dev: Depends: libsdl1.2debian (= 1.2.9-0.0ubuntu2) but 1.2.10-3ubuntu1 is to be installed09:41
paul0how do i fix that?09:41
NormalLast night(to get the widescreen res), but not since(until just now trying to fix it)09:41
pippijnI gave it its ip, gateway, subnet mask and everything09:41
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pippijnit just doesn'T connect09:41
Jowipaul0: you have conflicting sourses in /etc/apt/sources.list09:41
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pippijnsuse does th esame thing09:41
pippijndebian too09:41
Gabby_Hayesgandolfthewizar1  ..  look at   http://ubuntu.guide.org/wiki/Dapper    for help with java and other things09:41
pippijnbut in gentoo it works09:41
pippijnstrangely09:41
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Flannel!tell gandolfthewizar1 about java09:42
pippijneven from the standard livecd09:42
jribpaul0: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please09:42
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faisal_dNormal, can you check your config file if it does contains the correct res?09:42
gandolfthewizar1ok i think i have it now sorry i ws half asleep yesterday when i tryed to  get that09:42
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youserlol  think imr egistered now09:42
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susi_HI all09:42
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jauxI can't make GWGET work, it always gives me error msg "ERROR: unknown error", could anyone help me about that?09:42
Jowiyouser: yes you are09:42
youserthanks :)09:42
paul0jrib: http://rafb.net/paste/results/LKd1Mx72.html09:43
jribjaux: what command are you issuing?09:43
TripleChi there. can I use XGl / compiz with an nvidia FX5200 chip?09:43
yousermaybe now i can get help gettingmy msn working09:43
youserlol09:43
FlannelTripleC: probably.  #ubuntu-xgl09:43
TripleCneed a new, cheap and simple vga card09:43
paul0jrib: i've tried to get the libsdl from edgy repository, got the same error09:43
TripleCFlannel: thx09:43
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faisal_danybody had problems with USB mice that keep disconnecting?09:43
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jribpaul0: remove the edgy repo that is bound to cause problems09:43
NormalThe only display options I have in my xorg.conf are 1440x900 and 1152x76809:43
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anon32synaptic reports WINE as being a 8.8MB download, is something wrong with my head? that doesn't sound right09:44
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paul0jrib: i've added it before got this error, and i still get it09:44
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jribpaul0: can you remove it and pastebin the new error you get?09:44
jauxjrib: gwget09:44
Bazzianon32: it was 9mb for me (edgy) I think09:44
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eegore|ubyCould someone help me with a minor sound issue?09:44
Flannelinfo wine09:44
eraccjrib, sureshot, I'm looking for something in *buntu that works similar to this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26004/ (note that one can do an install off FTP or HTTP distribution mirrors with the methods shown here)09:44
Flannelanon32: nope, 8mb looks right09:45
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anon32really? I was suspicious since I remember cygwin as being like 200MB...09:45
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eraccSo far I am not finding this with *buntu.09:45
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Flannel!tell eracc about install09:45
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jribjaux: strange, did it ever work?09:46
Jowipaul0: maybe it will help if you use the same server for main, universe and multiverse09:46
eraccFlannel, I've seen that many times. The bot does not know the answer. :-)09:46
Flanneleracc: theres various methods there, including a netboot one09:46
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eraccFlannel, the netboot is for booting a system OFF a network. Like a diskless box. Not what I need.09:46
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paul0Jowi: i think i forgot using "apt-get update" when i've added the edgy repository09:46
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faisal_dNormal, what res are you getting now?09:46
Flanneleracc: no, it's for installing over the network.09:46
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Flanneleracc: that entire page is about installation09:47
nex_beryl i love you!09:47
nex_wow09:47
jauxjrib: I tried several times, but it only works when I am trying to download a image from flickr09:47
eraccFlannel, ok, I have that page up and I'm not seeing the answer. I'll re-read it again. :-/09:47
nex_no more windows for me09:47
nex_ubuntu 4 ever09:47
gnomefreakpaul0: please move talk about edgy to #ubuntu+109:47
Flanneleracc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot09:47
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jauxjrib: otherwise, it doesn't work at all09:47
eraccFlannel, I have that page up.09:47
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jribjaux: if you run 'gwget' from a terminal does it open?09:48
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jauxjrib: yes09:48
eraccFlannel, I've read it several times in the last week and apparently cannot see the magic answer. :-)09:48
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jribjaux: oh oh, so the problem is with downloading specific files09:48
oxygene_hi. what's the most elegant way to set $TERM to xterm-color? i even think this should be default in ubuntu09:48
jauxjrib: but it can't download anything except an image from flickr09:48
Ciausforums r back up09:48
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Ronzhey, im having a time trying to get my 6800GT up and running. i have had it up and running in the past, but had to do a reinstall. it keeps comming up with "failed to load nvidia kernel module." anyone have an idea?09:48
oxygene_in order to get a colored prompt09:48
Flanneleracc: what magic answer?  you want to install over the network.09:49
Ronzoh yea, have also installed nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common09:49
jribjaux: does it give you any errors in the terminal when it fails?09:49
mipstienim tryin to get multiple sounds working right now on dapper drake, i'd like to see someone else asound.conf file so i can confirm if mine is correct or not09:49
Flanneleracc: follow the steps on that page, and you'll have an installation09:49
sureshoteracc i will look at this not sorry the inlaws were here grrrrrr09:49
gandolfthewizar1i still can't get it09:49
eraccFlannel, I want to install from one of the internet mirrors using a bootable install CD. If that page has the answer I'm just not seeing it.09:49
jribgandolfthewizar1: join me in #ubuntu-classroom, I will walk you through it09:49
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Ronzjoin #nvidia09:50
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Ronzdisregard...;)09:50
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nikinhy09:50
ProN00bjaux, do you have wget installed ?09:50
mipstienim tryin to get multiple sounds working right now on dapper drake, i'd like to see someone else asound.conf file so i can confirm if mine is correct or not09:50
jauxProNOOb: yes, I have it09:50
nikinanyone any experience with lazarus 0.9.18 on Ubuntu?09:50
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Jowimipstien: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26005/09:51
jribgandolfthewizar1: you know how to join #ubuntu-classroom?09:51
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sureshoteracc does ubuntu have a mirror for install images it would work the same way the boot floppy would connect to the internet bring down the image09:52
Ronzhey, im having a time trying to get my 6800GT up and running. i have had it up and running in the past, but had to do a reinstall. it keeps comming up with "failed to load nvidia kernel module." anyone have an idea?09:52
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sureshoteracc do no know if ubuntu has such an image09:52
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NormalIs there a driver besides nv that will work with a 7600GT?09:52
RonzNormal, nvidia09:53
NormalI can't use that one09:53
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eraccsureshot, yeah, I know. I am trying to find out if I can do this with *buntu. If not then I want to ask The Powers That Be to put it in place. :-)09:53
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Ronzdid you sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx?09:53
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fooHow can I make a bunzip2 with max compression?09:53
mipstienjowi, thank you@!09:53
q_a_z_stevewhy doesn't my sound work to play mp3's? I can listen to the radio via rhythmbox...09:53
Jowinp mipstien09:53
fooI can't seem to find it in the man page09:53
NormalYou have to use 2.6.15 somethin and I can only boot with 2.6.1209:53
jribubotu: tell q_a_z_steve about mp309:53
gandolfthewizar1i still cant get it to work09:53
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LuakagonHow do I open a .lzh file?09:54
jribgandolfthewizar1: I understand, I will help walk you through all of the steps if you join #ubuntu-classroom.  There is less traffic there, so it is easier to help09:54
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Luakagonlilo died? :'(09:54
RonzNormal, have you upgraded your kernel?09:54
mipstienjowi, unfortunantly im not sure what is wrong with my sound it doesn't come out multiple sources :(09:54
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jauxjrib: when I run gwget from termial, I got"** (Gwget:4218): CRITICAL **: view_selection_func: assertion `gwget_data_get_selected()!=NULL' failed09:54
jaux"09:54
NormalI can't, any kernel besides 2.6.12 won't boot09:55
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sportmanumm where would i talk about issues with edgy?09:55
jribsportman: #ubuntu+109:55
jauxjrib: and in the gwget window, it says "ERROR: Unknown error"09:55
faisal_d!edgy09:55
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule09:55
sportmanthanks09:55
sureshoteracc that is the question because you may be able to edit that boot floppy for mandrak to to that same for ubuntu if there is an image if you read on how the image is done you could do it on your own lan09:55
eraccI've done dozens of internet installs of Mandr* using their boot.iso CD image. It boots then gives me the option of installing off NFS, FTP or HTTPS. The last two can use distribution mirrors with an internet connection.09:55
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sportmanjust a quick question non edgy related09:55
jribjaux: that error pops up in the terminal everytime you get the "unknown error"?  Or does it only show up once when you start gwget?09:56
sportmanum when i go to uninstall the totem mozilla plugin09:56
NormalI had to do a runaround just to get dapper installed, and most things I wanted to do are now not possible(3d modeling, anything sound)09:56
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sportmanin synaptic it adds ubuntu-desktop to the uninstall list09:56
sportman:(09:56
jribubotu: tell sportman about ubuntu-desktop09:56
Jowimipstien: save that as .asoundrc in your /home/user dir. should work fine. also make sure you use alsa as default output sink. if you use esd, kill it (killall esd).09:56
eraccer, HTTP, not HTTPS. :-)09:56
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sportmananything i can do?09:56
jribsportman: check your private messages from ubotu09:56
jauxjrib: only show up once when I type in the command09:56
sportmanah true09:56
sportmanthanks jrib09:56
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sportman:)09:56
faisal_dsportman, can you share the answer? i never knew the answer for hta one!!09:57
sportmanyou can remove it09:57
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Eleafnow there is 10000009:57
jribeh?09:57
Eleafnothing!09:57
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gandolfthewizar1i have enabled univers and the other one to but i still can't the java runtime09:57
jauxjrib: I was trying to download "http://superb-west.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/drjava/drjava-stable-20060918-1737.jar"09:57
jribgandolfthewizar1: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list09:58
fooI installed something with ubuntu and it installed a new kernel. How can I delete the kernel? dpkg -l|grep -i kernel and then apt-get remove .. ?09:58
NormalNeither Dapper desktop, Edgy Desktop, or Edgy Alternate will load(they all freeze)09:58
q_a_z_steveokay, what about this PSM that Mozilla is asking for? Never heard of it and apt-cache pkgnames has nothing either09:58
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Ronzhey, im having a time trying to get my 6800GT up and running. i have had it up and running in the past, but had to do a reinstall. it keeps comming up with "failed to load nvidia kernel module." anyone have an idea?09:59
sureshoteracc do you have a home network09:59
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jribjaux: hmm not really sure what is happening jaux, sorry09:59
gandolfthewizar1i had it yesterday i just don't know why i can't get it now09:59
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highnekoWhen starting apps I see an animated outline just before the window starts. How's this removed?09:59
eraccsureshot, heh, yeah. I have multiple PCs. I run a SOHO computer sales and consulting biz. ;-)09:59
Jowigandolfthewizar1: make sure you have multiverse in your repos. then -> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre09:59
sureshoteracc whare are you located my man09:59
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eraccsureshot, Tennessee, USA10:00
jauxjrib: all right, thank you anyway, I am going to try whether my wget is working or not10:00
sureshoteracc bummers i live in a third wold country call ohio10:00
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sureshotlol10:00
eraccsureshot, we established that a few days ago. ;-)10:00
Ronzanyone that can help with nvidia drivers?10:00
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hardkaareis anyone running edgy,xen and winxp/vista?10:01
sureshoteracc sorry did not remember10:01
slimemonkeyinstead of using an IDE for java development, can i just type the code into a text editor and then compile through console window?10:01
Jowihardkaare: ask in #ubuntu+110:01
sureshoteracc if you set this up and have a boot prom on your network card you can boot right off your lan it is a little slower but you can do this10:01
hardkaareJowi: oki thx10:02
slimemonkeyi installed the jdk....and installed eclipse, but its a pain10:02
slimemonkeyso any command line compilers that would come in handy?10:02
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slimemonkeyalso, eclipse comes with a java compiler right?10:02
eraccsureshot, yes, I know. That is not what I want but thanks for the suggestion.10:02
Buglousedoes anyone use the X-Away v1.4 Script on Ubuntu Drapper?10:02
BuglouseI keep getting the Error: Error in command callback Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference at (eval 1) line 73110:02
Ronzslimemonkey, you can use sun-java-jdk10:03
GoldKeeperis there a way to upgrade my system from ubuntu to ubuntu edgy ?10:03
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slimemonkeyRonz: i isntalled that....but how can i use it? you mean as a compiler?10:03
faisal_dthat's strange... i just did sudo apt-get update, and it failed because "not in gzip format"!!10:03
jribGoldKeeper: you realize edgy is still in development and may break your system?10:03
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eraccsureshot, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26006/ ;-)10:03
GoldKeeperehh10:03
boink!edgy10:03
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule10:03
GoldKeepermaybe not then10:03
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sureshoteracc i now wyat you mean but if you can do that with your lan you would have a head start on what you need to do10:04
boinkit will be released at the end of the month, if all goes well10:04
jauxProN00b: are you still there? My wget works just fine, but gwget doesn't work at all10:04
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GoldKeeperthats not to long of a wait then10:04
Ronzslimemonkey, hold on10:04
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slimemonkeyRonz ok..10:04
ProN00bjaux, did you try loading the same link with wget and gwget ?10:04
eraccsureshot, I'll probably do that eventually. But I would still like the internet option for when I am at some other place doing an install. :-)10:04
jauxProN00b, yes, the same link10:05
XalWhat is a nice LInux CPU stress tester?10:05
labanuxis there any canon pixma ip1600 driver for ubuntu?10:05
ProN00bjaux, does wget act strange somehow ?10:05
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Ronzslimemonkey, run this command to select the sun-java-jdk.     sudo update-alternatives --config java10:05
labanuxi've already looking around., but still finf nothing at all10:05
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sureshoteracc i unerstand .. and sorry about the repeat but i dont remember things like i used to to many pain med and to old LOLOLOLOL10:05
jauxProN00b, no, it works as normal10:05
slimemonkeyRonz: waitwait..what does this do?10:05
eraccsureshot, no problem brother. :-)10:06
slimemonkeyRonz: i am looking for a command line way to compile...without the hassle of usingheavy weight IDEs...10:06
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slimemonkeyRonz: is this the same thing?10:06
Ronzslimemonkey, that makes it so you can select sun-jdk as your main compiler when you run java commands. ie, java <prog>10:06
ProN00bjaux, dunno then10:06
Ronzslimemonkey, yes10:06
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Ronzslimemonkey, this is the command like way of doing it10:06
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slimemonkeyRonz: ohhhhh ok thx!10:06
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jauxProN00b, thank you anyway10:06
sureshoteracc nice to know you have  computer store thouth might need a few things here soon rather buy off a friend than micro center10:06
Ronzbrb10:07
mart_hi, anyone know of a reason why i now only have one workspace?10:07
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KDanok... if i have a directory that's not executable to world, but is executable to group abcd... and i have added that group to user 'dan'... i should be able to cd to that directory right?10:07
mart_i used to have 4, now only one works for no reason10:07
slimemonkeyRonz: um...now i have a list to choose from...10:07
Gavrilasorry for the OT, anyone knows a channel of columbia universit students?10:07
slimemonkeyRonz: list of 3 things..?10:07
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eraccsureshot, just go to my web site to get in contact with me.10:07
faisal_dmart_ just add desktop switcher to your panel10:07
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Gavrilaand by the way is there any repository for gnome 2.16 on dapper?10:08
sureshoteracc what is the url10:08
slimemonkeyRonz: do i pick the java-1.5.0-sun/jre/... one?10:08
eraccsureshot, www.eracc.com, what else? ;-)10:08
mart_i get an error... lemme write it in10:08
mart_Failed: Failed: Schema `/schemas/apps10:08
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mart_workspace_switcher_applet/pref10:08
sureshoteracc should have thought of that dumb me LOLOLOLOL10:08
mart_display_workspace_names' specified for `/apps/panel10:08
mart_thats when i go to preferences10:08
faisal_dmart_ use paste bin for long pastes10:08
mart_sorry, only those lines10:09
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faisal_dnp.. usually if it's more than two lines, you use a paste bin :)10:09
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mart_my bad10:09
faisal_dnot at all :)10:09
slimemonkeyRonz: nvm...i think i am slowly getting this figured out. thank you for your help.10:09
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Ronzim having problems with my nvidia video drivers....is there anyone that can help me? lol10:09
mart_wierd that it does that though, its been working fine10:09
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sureshoteracc have i asked your age10:10
eraccsureshot, 4610:10
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Ronzi have run nvidia-xconfig, but it kicks back an error of "failed to load nvidia kernel module"10:10
sureshoteracc gee man you are older than me10:10
sureshoteracc just 2 years10:10
Ronzslimemonkey, if you need any more java help, leme know. just configured it bout 10 min ago. ;)10:10
slimemonkeyRonz: oh ok. thx.10:10
Ronznp10:11
ubuntuJFPHi all ! anyone with a Dapper 6.06 booting from hd wit a ASUS P5GD1 m/b ?10:11
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eraccHeh, sureshot,  I've also been working with Unix-like systems (starting with Xenix) since 1988. :-)10:11
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sureshoteracc i always wanted a trs80 mod 2 with xenix i may have had a different path in life10:12
eraccsureshot, Our SOHO business file server was running Unixware 7 until SCO decided to implode. Then I switched us to FreeBSD.10:12
KDando you need to do anything to flush group memberships on unix, after using gpasswd to add a user to a group?10:13
sureshoteracc is not sco microsoft stuff10:13
BuglouseDoes anyone have experiance with ShoutCast Servers?  I would like to find a client that allows me to connect to a ShoutCast Server!10:13
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KDansomehow "groups" is still not telling me that i belong to the group i selected10:13
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KDaneven though if i do "groups dan" it does10:13
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eraccsureshot, not really. SCO bought Xenix from Micro$oft. The whole history is out on the WWW if you really want to know.10:14
JowiBuglouse: streamtuner is nifty (uses xmms to play te streams though)10:14
hemppaKDan: you need to log out/in10:14
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sureshoteracc not really inportand but hey have been slowy switching to linux for a while yet10:15
KDanhemppa: argh... all my screen sessions?10:15
Gabby_Hayessureshot  .. I have a TRS 80 model 16 .. with two 8-inch floppy drives  (a MC68000 & a  Z80  dual cpu system)  :-)10:15
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Graighey, when is the new version of ubuntu coming out?10:15
Graigit's supposed to be october.  has edgy been released already?10:16
RamunasGraig:  28th of October IIRC10:16
hemppaKDan: i'm not 100% sure but i think that it would solve group problem10:16
eraccsureshot, good for you!10:16
Graigok thanks.10:16
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sureshotGabby you luck dude have not had the money but been wanting to start a computer museam10:16
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RamunasGraig:  oh sorry, its 26th10:16
sethkGraig, it isn't supposed to be october, it is october.  but you meant edgy was supposed to be released in october.  :)10:16
Graigis there a way i can get a more recent version of f-spot?10:17
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eegore|ubyhow well is the racket raid 2320 supported10:17
RamunasGraig:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule10:17
mwesethk: 10:17
Graigthanks.10:17
KDanhemppa: it did!10:17
sureshoteracc i learned cobal basic and fortran on a trs80 mod 3 and 4 lolol10:17
KDanand it didn't even wipe out my sudo privileges in the process10:18
KDanphew10:18
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hemppa:)10:18
Ronzis anyone having problems with nvidia drivers?10:18
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darkhazeis there any OP here?10:18
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boinkyou want half an op?10:19
reverieAnyone hwere own a motherboard with an Nvidia Nforce 3 250 chispet?10:19
darkhazei need to talk to an op or halfop10:19
Ronz2 half's make a whole10:19
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hichamthere is a repository for the nvidia drivers search for it10:19
darkhazecos my friend got banned here. and he asked me to explain what happened10:19
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ZoffixIs it possible to set up some keyboard shortcut to run a specified command?10:19
boinkbanns aren't explained here10:19
sureshot3 thirds make a hole as well do i here 410:19
darkhazehe was running windows and a scrip called peace and protection.10:19
darkhazeboink: so how can i do this favor to him?10:20
boinkyou can't. end of story. water under the bridge ...10:20
Ronzhicham, you wouldn't know the line to add in sources.lst would you?10:20
darkhazesomeone used pig and it answered cos his addon10:20
darkhazehrm10:20
darkhazealright i'll let him know.10:20
deltabKDan: group ids are only set up for a process when it starts10:20
Zoffixboink: was it for me?10:20
boinkno10:20
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darkhazeboink: thanks anyway.10:20
deltabKDan: you can use sg to run a command using the new groups10:21
boinkback tp the topic, boys10:21
hichamRonz, i had the repository I don't anymore wait I'll search10:21
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KDandeltab: sg? ah10:21
Ronzhicham, if this works you are my hero10:21
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deltabKDan: I meant newgrp10:21
KDanthanks10:21
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deltabit doesn't actually change the groups of the current shell, but starts a new one, as I understand it10:22
compotatojI installed Ubuntu Edgy and upgraded my packages and when I restarted the sound stopped working.10:22
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hichamRonz, what is your kernel?10:23
mwecompotatoj: maybe because it's beta?10:23
adam410i have a box running ubuntu-server, and I've installed FTP, so i can ftp to the machine, but when I try to edit anything in the apache document root dir, i get a permission denied, how can I change this, so I can edit anywhere?10:23
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compotatojmwe, it used to work though10:23
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mwecompotatoj: before you installed the beta version?10:23
sethkadam410, if you truly mean that you are connected via ftp, then you cannot.10:23
mwecompotatoj: edgy support is in #ubuntu+1, though10:23
compotatojmwe, no i have been using edgy for about a month and it worked the whole time10:23
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mwecompotatoj: /j #ubuntu+110:24
adam410sethk, why is that?10:24
vadercould someone help me with this error please?10:24
vaderhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26008/10:24
sethkadam410, because ftp means file transfer protocol, and you don't edit anything with it, you transfer files to or from a server with it.10:25
hichamRonz,  what kernel version u have?10:25
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sethkadam410, and you certainly don't alter web server source with it.10:25
Ronzhold on10:25
Ronzhicham, 2.6.15-27-38610:25
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adam410sethk, that's really what I meant, I meant I wanted to upload a file, sorry If i was unclear, my bad.10:25
darkhazevader: what do u get when u try to run $ apt-get update ?10:25
Ronzhicham, sorry...had to get some mountain dew / jellybeans  ;)10:25
vaderwhat is in pastbin10:25
vaderhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26008/10:26
sethkadam410, if you were to set your permissions so your ftp user could upload web server files, the web server would refuse to run.10:26
hichamhehe k Ronz10:26
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sethkadam410, ftp is an unsafe protocol that uses clear text passwords.10:26
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adam410sethk, then how do you suggest that I upload files to my machine?10:26
sethkadam410, also apache is rather strict about what is owned by the web server process.10:26
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sethkadam410, upload them any way you wish, but don't expect to upload them into their final destination.  then ssh into the machine, su to whichever user you need to be, and copy the files.10:27
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Ronzand hicham ...will i have this problem whenever there is a kernel upgrade?10:27
hichamNo u'll not Ronz10:27
ubuntu-newbanyone know wher to find the gstreamer plugins; i am having the hardest time locating them using the Synaptic Package Manager; I added the universe and multverse repositories yet I cant find them in there10:28
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highnekoWhen starting apps I see an animated outline just before the window starts. How's this removed?10:28
adam410sethk: I've scped things right into the apache dir, and there is no trouble with permissions.10:28
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Jowiubuntu-newb: search for the name "gstreamer" in synaptic10:28
hastesaver!restricted > ubuntu-newb10:28
sethkadam410, indeed, because you are the user that is permitted to do so.10:28
hastesaverubuntu-newb, you might want to read all of that page...10:28
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sethkadam410, it's a very bad idea, but the machine won't stop you.10:28
adam410sethk, so why can't my ftp account do that two?10:29
adam410and what makes it a bad idea?10:29
LinAsHvader, you need to authenticate the server by getting its gpg key : gpg --keyserver hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 0x12B83718 ;  gpg --export -a 0x12B83718 | sudo apt-key add -10:29
Jowiubuntu-newb: the names are for example "gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad" etc10:29
sethkadam410, uploading html files to a running http server?  think about what problems that could cause.10:29
sethkadam410,  if you have scp working, that means you have sftp working.  so why do you want to use ftp when sftp is already working?10:29
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sureshotwhat does the -bad mean10:30
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hichamRonz, what is you nvidia?10:30
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Ronzsureshot, non-free.10:30
Ronzhicham, 6800 GT10:30
Jowi!info gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad10:30
ubotugstreamer0.10-plugins-bad: GStreamer plugins from the "bad" set. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 365 kB, installed size 864 kB10:30
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sureshotRonz thanks10:30
Ronzsureshot, things like mp3, wav, etc10:30
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Jowisureshot: plugins that are in a legal gray zone (depending on where you live)10:30
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sureshothey does any of you gurus out here have a crib sheet that you use to answer questions if you do would you be willing to share it10:30
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kitsuneofdoomhey, I just reinstalled Ubuntu from 64 to 32 bit. I'm trying to see if I can get openGL to work. It seems to work with Mesa now, which is better than I had it before (not at all) but I'd like to get accelerated to work. I have an ATi Radeon 200M, and have installed the drivers, and followed the instructions, it still says I'm using mesa though10:31
sureshotJowi thanks10:31
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simmerzI'm getting this when cron.daily/mysql-server runs: ERROR 1373 (HY000) at line 1: Target log not found in binlog index10:31
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simmerzbut I'm using a stock mysql config10:31
Ronzno crib sheet for me, sureshot . only when i had to take psych 280  ;)10:31
vaderLinAsH, it is saying no permission10:31
siloxwhat am i doing whrong?? Nvidia CANT detect my TV10:31
hastesaversureshot, In general, try "/msg ubotu <keyword>", and try searching on wiki.ubuntu.com :-)10:32
sureshotRonz that is funny hehe i am new just asking for commands and such that is not used much so i can learn10:32
meatfaceI am looking for some help with a sound issue on boot after the login prompt. Is there anyone here that can look at my xsession-errors log and help me out?10:32
Ronzsureshot, messing with 'nix is the best way to learn10:32
sureshothastesaver i do that from time to time iguess i can start my own list LOL10:32
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sureshotRonz nix ???10:33
Ronzlinux10:33
s1`_how does the final two rows look in gdm.com-custom?10:33
Ronz*nix10:33
sureshotRonz did not now the acronim10:33
Ronz* = wildcard, where * = li10:33
hastesaverRonz, linix?10:33
Ronz=P10:33
Jowikitsuneofdoom: mesa is a free implementation of OpenGL10:33
vadernm it will get fixed sooner or later :)10:33
s1`_I seem to have forgotten to backup that file when I edited it to start beryl10:33
ChocoCidi find it odd that people use *nix to refer to "linux and unix" when it doesn't match10:33
hichamRonz, try apt-get install nVidia-6800GT10:33
ChocoCid*n*x would match though10:34
xavyes it would be *n*x :d10:34
LinAsHvader, are you in sudoers ? it should work (be sure any synaptic or something that can locks files is running)10:34
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xavbut thats ugly10:34
xav*nix is fun imo10:34
ChocoCidyeah well, so's perl10:34
ChocoCidbut people use it10:34
vaderLinAsH, yup10:34
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xavChocoCid, lol10:34
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Ronzhicham, E: Couldn't find package nVidia-6800GT10:34
sureshotChocoCid ever thought you are messing with a bunch of people that are odd in them selves i would be the first to admit i resemable that remark10:34
hastesaver*n?x10:34
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hardkaarewill network-manager be included as standard in edgy?10:35
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Jowikitsuneofdoom: maybe it's just that your direct rendering is not in use "glxinfo | grep direct" to find out10:35
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ClayGanyone here own a laserjet?10:35
Gabby_HayesRonz  .. try  apt-cache search nvidia  (should get two files to d/l  and install)10:35
hichamok10:35
siloxClayG 1200S here10:36
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ClayGthis is a dumb question, but i have a laserjet 4p and can't figure out how to turn it off10:36
fortran01ClayG, laserjet 130010:36
ClayGwithout un plugging it10:36
ClayGlol10:36
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xavanyway, I didn't see *nix as a real reg exp. rather a name to design all unix based system10:36
LinAsHvader, what did you type exactly ?10:36
tuxtuxciao a tutti10:36
LjL!it10:36
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!10:36
siloxClayG The Button on the right side?10:36
hichamRonz, u use the ubuntu dapper or breezy?10:36
ClayGlemme check10:36
Ronzhicham, dapper10:36
vaderLinAsH, I will do it later, fist day off in 20 days10:36
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badger ok i have a comp with no OS.  I put in ubuntu desktop boot disk. hit install. it said loading drivers for a couple minutes...now it just sits at a black screen with flashing prompt.  What am i suppose to do?10:36
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fortran01ClayG, there's a switch near the power socket10:36
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RonzGabby_Hayes, none. ive installed nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common10:37
spoofingi just installed ubuntu 6.10 anyone can help me put ATI driver and AIGLX working?10:37
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hichamRonz, try out this link http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html10:37
fortran01I get a GPG error when doing apt-get update, where can I fetch the public keys?10:37
RonzGabby_Hayes, also ran nvidia-xconfig and kicks back "failed to load nvidia kernel module"10:37
Ronzhicham, ok, h/o10:37
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ClayGsilox, fortran01 i dont have one10:38
ClayGthis is an older model10:38
hichamRonz, tell me when u finish10:38
ClayGbut im sure there has to be a better way than unplugging it10:38
sureshothay all waht is the syntax for the command to build essentials10:38
LjLsureshot: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"10:38
LjLif that's what you mean10:38
kitsuneofdoomArgh. Now I got it working, it seems, but it blankscreens10:38
ClayGi wish it would work as fast as when my gf is printing from her windows computer10:38
ClayGbut it still is decent speed coming from mine10:38
sureshotLjL thanks for the info10:38
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siloxClayG i had one of those before and i know it was a power button :P10:39
Ronz*crosses fingers*10:39
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ClayGYeah i'm sure it does i just can't find it, i looked in the reg spots, sides back front10:40
fortran01anything wrong with apt-get ubuntu servers?10:40
ClayGsilox, how did it treat you? do they last?10:40
badgercould somebody help me out please10:40
sureshotgee that dash aver build is very important wont work with out it LOLOLOL10:40
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kitsuneofdoomGreat. So, now I have a different problem. My laptop is behaving stupidly with fglrx, and blankscreens, and doesn't do anything. I have an HP dv5000. I think an older version of the driver works, is there an easy way to get and install that driver10:40
hichamwhat do u want badger10:40
sphorbisanybody know how to pair an motorola h500 with kbluetoothd?10:41
kitsuneofdoomAt the moment, I don't have X10:41
LjLbadger: what version of ubuntu is that?   for boot problems, a fairly standard suggestion is to try passing "acpi=off" as a boot parameter (you can do that from the boot menu, by hitting "e")10:41
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vgewhen i try to configure this:http://www.howtoforge.com/apache2_with_php5_and_php4 so that php4 would be .php and php5 as php5, how do i do that? This example has em other way around. Not the way i want em10:41
vgesomebody can help me with this?10:41
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siloxsilox it a great printer, my father uses it now, i have a Laserjet4 and a 1200 here now, works fine also ;)10:42
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siloxoops10:42
hichamso Ronz?10:42
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GoldKeeperubuntu ubuntu what would we do with out you10:42
siloxa litte scritzo.. warning there ;)10:42
badgerit's the newest one 6.06.. do i type that after it loads the drivers in ubuntu.  or just booting up without the disc?10:43
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gandolfthewizardok i am still not getting this java plug in10:43
Josh43Can anyone answer me a simple multimonitor q?: I want to game on one monitor, but be able to switch focus to the second monitor if need be (To answer an IM or whatever): one is screen 0, the other is screen 1; is there any way to do this?10:43
siloxClayG it a great printer, my father uses it now, i have a Laserjet4 and a 1200 here now, works fine also ;)10:43
hichambadger I didn't understand what is your problem if ur talking to me10:43
GoldKeeperim not sure but what games you got going ?10:44
sethkbadger, download the alternate cd and do the text mode install10:44
ClayGI picked up a toner catridge for 21 bucks!10:44
badgerwhen do you type acpi=off?10:44
ClayGif this thing can really do 7000 pages off of one catridge im going to be a happy camper10:44
LjLbadger: well, when it shows the very first screen, with "Load or install Ubuntu", "Load Ubuntu in safe gfx mode", etc... i think it's F6 you should press, to pass parameters to the kernel10:44
Josh43GoldKeeper, Nexuiz, for example (open source fps)10:44
fortran01badger, grub prompt10:44
siloxClayG i got those printers for free ;)10:44
LjLbadger: (when i said press "e", i was actually thinking about the boot loader Grub... but that's only there *after* you have ubuntu installed on your HD)10:44
gandolfthewizardlooking for some help on java i have done evrything that i am suppose to do10:44
ClayGsilox, lucky DOG! how did you manage that?10:44
gandolfthewizardi had it running in the terminal and everything10:45
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ClayGsilox, i bought mine for 100 on ebay10:45
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gandolfthewizardbut when i go to log into the game room in yahoo it says i still need the plug in10:45
willys_fueguinoi need to know if there is an official Ubuntu code of conduct in spanish10:45
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siloxClayG my father gets them in he jobs "trashbox" ;)10:45
LjLbadger: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions10:45
sethkwillys_fueguino, no puedos hacer nada10:45
silox+ a lot of tones10:45
ClayGdamn10:46
ClayGyou should be selling them10:46
ClayGyou can get an easy 100+50shipping on ebay10:46
LjLbadger: also, make sure the CD was burned OK, but doing an md5sum on it10:46
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willys_fueguinosethk, what??10:46
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willys_fueguino:-S10:46
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siloxClayG you would love to walk in there they throw away computers (450 Mhz) monitors 21" etc. all fine and fully working10:46
gandolfthewizardany ideas10:46
gandolfthewizardplease10:46
Josh43bah - ran out of time; anyone feel free to contemplate my question until I get back ;)10:46
silox;)10:46
loper06where do i go to edit what services are loaded @ boot?10:46
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siloxClayG cant sell them, they were swedish gouvernment property ;)10:47
mweloper06: using bum might be easiest10:47
oxygene_!session10:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about session - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:47
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willys_fueguinoi need to know if there is an official Ubuntu code of conduct in spanish10:47
ClayGsilox, I would have eyes wide open looking like qaurters!10:47
mweloper06: you probably have to install it10:47
minimecloper06: bum or rcconf (for console)10:48
b03ntogandolfthewizard, why dont u download jre bin and build deb ur self10:48
sethkwillys_fueguino, sorry, puedes, not puedos   :)10:48
ClayGi can take 450z and make them thinclient's , stick them in rooms that need computers10:48
gandolfthewizardbecause i am new here to linux and i have no clue what i am doing10:48
ClayGor maybe a makeshift webserver, fileserver,etc10:48
siloxClayG i use them as servers here xD10:48
ClayGmy gf alreadys gives this big sigh when i walk in with another computer10:48
ClayGlol10:48
willys_fueguinosethk, that means that theres none translated code of conduct (official)??10:48
gandolfthewizardi had java installed lat night but i had to reinstall things this morning10:49
siloxClayG lol10:49
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sethkwillys_fueguino, I haven't seen one, but it may exist.10:49
ClayGgot a bunch in my dumpster diving days10:49
silox:P10:49
sethkwillys_fueguino, did you ask on the spanish ubuntu irc channel?10:49
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ClayGwe hit a datacenter in town and pulled a battery backup that was INSANE10:49
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b03ntogandolfthewizard, dou you have make-jpkg10:50
ClayGsold it for 2 c-notes but i wanted to keep it, partners....10:50
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loper06minimec: sudo apt-get install bum > correct?10:50
gandolfthewizardnot that i know of10:50
siloxClayG k :P10:50
loper06or in symatic10:50
ClayGthen we developed "dark dumpster" tactics, pulling broken things outta the trash, buying new ones from walmart and returning the broken ones in the new boxes and getting cash back, then selling the new ones on ebay10:50
minimecloper06: yeah. try that. maybe you have to activate uni- and multiverse10:51
gandolfthewizardcan someone just give me the terminal commands and i'll work o getting the java that i need10:51
ClayGlemme stop, before a #ubuntu-boyscout tells me to take it to offtopic10:51
siloxClayG lol :P10:51
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b03ntogandolfthewizard: oke try download java bin from here http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware_source/l/jre/10:51
silox;)10:51
ClayGsilox, what are you using for the driver? I am using the hplip or something like that10:52
ClayGvery slow, i want the fastest one10:52
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b03ntogandolfthewizard, are u there...10:52
siloxClayG i use standard drives10:52
gandolfthewizardyes i am here10:52
b03ntogandolfthewizard, have u download it10:53
siloxClayG hplip10:53
gandolfthewizardworking on it kinda slow right now10:53
ClayGyeah10:53
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ClayGthats what im using10:53
siloxyupp it works quite well with those10:54
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Ronzhey hicham , it threw back an error10:54
gandolfthewizardi'll be glad when t he cd gets here10:54
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Ronzhicham,  The kernel source path '/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-27-386' does not10:54
Ronz       exist.10:54
b03ntogandolfthewizard, what cd ?10:54
gandolfthewizardubuntu10:54
Clarrisawho should be the owner of .htaccess and the passwords they point tho?10:55
siloxClayG do u know anything about connecting the computer to the TV? ^^10:55
Clarrisato10:55
b03ntogandolfthewizard, what ubuntu ?10:55
gandolfthewizardthe new one10:55
ClayGnah, I would imagine a good tv in/out would do it10:55
Clarrisawho should be the owner of .htaccess and the passwords they point to10:55
Ronzedgy?10:55
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ClayGunless the tv is like one of those that can double as a monitor10:55
hichamRonz, try to install the linux-headers-2.6.15.27-38610:55
Clarrisawho should be the owner of .htaccess and the password FILES they point to?10:55
b03ntogandolfthewizard, whats up with dapper ?10:55
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gandolfthewizardi don't have dapper10:55
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hichamapt-get install linux-headers...10:56
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siloxClayG ie tried now with xorg.conf configuring and Nvidia settings but it wont find my TV :(10:56
ClayGsilox, do you know anything about making it so you can print over the internet? like make my laserprinter able to print sht i find at work?10:56
hichamon in the synaptic10:56
b03ntogandolfthewizard, so what are u using now ?10:56
gandolfthewizardubuntu10:56
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gandolfthewizardthe slow one10:56
sethkClayG, you have to tunnel to do that10:56
b03ntothe slow one ?10:56
badgerok i enter acpi=off and i got a new problem10:56
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gandolfthewizardyeah the alternate download10:56
Enselicis it hard to install GNOME 2.16 onto Ubuntu 6.06?10:56
sethkClayG, a vpn of course will do it magically for you.10:56
ClayGyeah i need beyond that10:56
ClayGor before that10:56
Clarrisacome on, someone must know the answer to this10:56
siloxClayG i know it exists some programs for that but i cant remember the names :P wait10:57
ClayGnah dont wanna vpn10:57
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hichamRonz, did u read?10:57
ClayGi cant tunnel the private ip/ports no prob10:57
donnahow do i install the nvidia legacy drivers??? when i use synaptics it wont start x10:57
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ClayGthat is something has to be done for me to ssh "home"10:57
Ronzhicham, yea10:57
CromagDK!nvidia10:57
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:57
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dxdemetriouhi10:57
hichamtry it out and tel me Ronz10:57
EkUmBahello10:57
CromagDKoh uhm have another donna. Sec.10:57
blaaI deleted /var on my lamp server. how do i do ?10:57
Ronzaight. *hugs hicham *10:57
ClayGi wonder if i could just create a new printger from work, make it "local" use the tcp/ip setting, dont know what port a printer uses though10:57
badgerit went further into installing, like detecting hardware and stuff, and then the monitor starts flashing "invalid pc mode". what is this?10:57
b03ntogandolfthewizard: breezy, dapper, edgy ?10:58
EkUmBadoes anyone know,why my ubuntu crashes down,when i move or copy more than 20 files?10:58
EnselicDoes anyone here run GNOME 2.16 on Ubuntu 6.06?10:58
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dxdemetriouIs there any howto how can I make work my graphic card from motherboard unichrome?10:58
ClayGguess i could ask uncle google (i hate when i see f4gs say that)10:58
EnselicEkumba: what's your system specs?10:58
gandolfthewizardi don't know what ever one is on the ubuntu site10:58
CromagDKdonna: legacy ?10:58
EkUmBai have a athlon 900 mhz,512 MB Ram10:58
donnayes legacy10:58
donnai tried using synaptics once, and my x didnt start on reboot10:58
gandolfthewizardfor the alternate download10:58
EkUmBadvd device is a new lg dvd burner10:59
donnaits an old geforce 4mx10:59
JowiClarrisa: root sounds good10:59
CromagDKdonna: any errors ?10:59
MrFeetiocan someone tell me how i can create my own theme(gtk2)10:59
donnadunno10:59
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b03ntogandolfthewizard: try lsb_release -a ..10:59
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jribMrFeetio: art.gnome.org has a tutorial10:59
badgerdoes anyone know the answer to my question.   puhlease!10:59
MrFeetiojrib thanks10:59
hichamso Ronz?10:59
CromagDKif it doesnt start, it doesnt say anything about it wont start ?10:59
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blaaI deleted /var on my lamp server. how do i do ?10:59
gandolfthewizardok11:00
gandolfthewizarddone11:00
b03nto!pastebin11:00
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:00
donnabrb11:00
EkUmBaEnselic?11:00
gandolfthewizardit's dapper 6.0611:00
b03ntogandolfthewizard: what it tell u ?11:00
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EnselicEkumba: Was it like this from the start of the dist?11:01
Jowiblaa: restore from your backup that you made before you accidentally deleted it?11:01
gandolfthewizardubuntu 6.06.1 lts11:01
b03ntogandolfthewizard: is the java bin download thing finish ?11:01
badgerit went further into installing, like detecting hardware and stuff, and then the monitor starts flashing "invalid pc mode". what is this?11:01
EkUmBahm,i don't know.never moved many files11:01
gandolfthewizardrelease 6.0611:01
gandolfthewizardcodename dapper11:01
b03ntogandolfthewizard: yes, im using that too.11:01
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EkUmBai moved many files,like 50....than the disk editor crashes....the system is still stable11:02
gandolfthewizardso will this give me my yahoo plug-in11:02
EkUmBaEnselic:do u know a better disk explorer.?11:02
b03ntogandolfthewizard: i though u looking for java..?11:02
dxdemetriouCan I make direct rendering to work in dapper for my unichrome card?11:02
gandolfthewizardyes the java plug-in for yahoo11:02
blaaJowi: no backup11:02
EnselicEkumba: I use Nautilus11:03
EnselicEkumba: How does it crash?11:03
EnselicEkumba: What does it look like?11:03
Jowiblaa: you're toast :-/11:03
EnselicEkumba: Does it crash at exactly 20 items=11:03
EnselicEkumba: Does it depend on destination of the files?11:03
b03ntogandolfthewizard: what u use ? firefox ? try  "about:plugins" on it, is there any java already ?11:03
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Sivikhow do i verify that my ftp server is active11:04
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Jowidxdemetriou: yes. run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". use the "via" driver for Xorg. when asked to add DRI say "yes"11:04
gandolfthewizardno11:04
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jribgandolfthewizard: did you get a chance to pastebin your sources.list yet?11:05
b03ntogandolfthewizard: ok, than u dont have java installed.. is the java bin downloading finish yet ?11:05
Jowidxdemetriou: running with accellerated graphics just fine on a epia M-1000011:05
EkUmBaEnselic:now i have another problem.i have moved the files from the disk to my hardrive.but now i can't delete the files.in nautilus there is pivot symbol.what to do?...well nautilus crahes sometime t 5 files of this pics,somtimes at 2011:05
badgerhey LjL11:05
b03ntogandolfthewizard: yes that too, i think your ubuntu still virgin right :)11:05
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gandolfthewizardyeah i just installed it last night11:06
dxdemetriouJowi, this type I know that is open with Linux. I have the K7 motherboard. I hope to works. thanks11:06
gandolfthewizardbut yes the bin is done11:06
LjLbadger: i don't really know, honestly11:06
Enselicrun 'sudo nautilus &' from a terminal, and delete from there, that should go11:06
Enselic@ ekumba11:06
b03ntogandolfthewizard: can u do this "sudo apt-get install java-package"11:06
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Jowidxdemetriou: via should work (no guarantees but a good guess)11:07
EkUmBaEnselic:yes?11:07
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badgerahh.  this blows11:07
godzirrawhat do I need to install/run to setup X?11:07
Sivikxserver-xorg11:07
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Enselicekumba, now delete the files11:07
lightstepi have a problem: apt always thinks it has the newset package lists, and never updates them. i tried deleting /var/cache/apt/*pkgcache.bin, but it still won't update. how can i force apt to download new lists from all the servers?11:07
Sivikamong other thanks11:07
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Jowigodzirra: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:07
Ramunasnight everybody11:07
godzirrathanks11:07
EkUmBa@???11:07
SivikJowi: i don't think he has the stuff installed11:08
jimhi, anyone able to assist me get wireless internet working on a dell inspiron 6000 laptop? linux version "Ubuntu 6.06 LTS"...  lspci at the command line gives: "Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG".11:08
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Siviklightstep: try apt-get -f install11:08
njalWhat's the story with linux and SATA, before I waste my money on a drive that I cannot return?11:08
Siviknjal: i don't have a problem sata11:08
pinkyWhy doesn't ifconfig return a given interface's configured gateway address?11:08
gandolfthewizardthis is what i get Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)11:08
gandolfthewizardE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?11:08
njalSo SATA works out of the box?11:08
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EkUmBaEnselic:i'm a linix newbie11:08
Siviknjal: mine does, i have a wd 160 gb sata11:08
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Siviknjal: what board?11:08
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lightstepSivik, i still get "Hit" or "Ign" for all servers11:09
Enselicekumba, did you get a nautilus session when you wrote sudo nautilus in a terminal?11:09
b03ntogandolfthewizard: do u run synaptic, if you do shut it first..11:09
LSD`how do I get teh full list of crap ubuntu starts at boot time? neither the services applet in gnome or rcconf give all the stuff that start up11:09
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lightstepSivik, (i did -f update)11:09
Enselicekumba, sudo means 'run as root', root is the user who can do anything11:09
EkUmBayes11:09
JowiSivik: ah, in that case godzirra: are you looking for just a base system of Xorg or gnome and the full shebang?11:10
Siviklightstep: are you using the us.archive.ubuntu.com in the /etc/apt/sources.conf file11:10
Enselicekumba, that means you have root priviliges from that session11:10
njalMobo is AM2 K8M890M2MA-RS211:10
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lightstepLSD`, look at /etc/rc2.d11:10
Siviknjal: shouldn't be a problem11:10
gandolfthewizardk ty11:10
ClayGEnselic, here is something interesting....11:10
Siviklightstep: look at your sources.list file11:10
Enselicekumba, which means you should be able to delete the files you couonld't ddlee11:10
lightstepSivik, yes, i do11:10
njalcool I just know windows needs external drivers and wanted to check up that there are no issues11:10
ClayGOne would assume that su means superuser since sudo is super user do (i beleive)11:10
Sivikget ride of the us in each of those locations and then run apt-get update again11:10
njalok thanks11:10
Sivikthe us ones never work11:10
ClayGinstead it's substitute user11:10
Siviknjal: no, linux has the sata drivers11:11
gandolfthewizardPackage java-package is not available, but is referred to by another package.11:11
gandolfthewizardThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or11:11
gandolfthewizardis only available from another source11:11
gandolfthewizardE: Package java-package has no installation candidate11:11
Siviknjal: i wouldn't worry about it11:11
hichamno it is super user ClayG11:11
Sivikgandolfthewizard: try doing an apt-cache search for java11:11
lightstepSivik, thanks. will it direct me to a random server each time?11:11
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ClayGhicham, i thought the same11:11
Siviklightstep: yes, it will find one that works11:11
jribgandolfthewizard: please do not paste here, use a pastebin.  And please use it to paste your sources.list! please!11:11
hichamyep11:11
EkUmBaEnselic:okay,i have started nautilus with root permission,and i'm able to delete the files.how can i always start nautlis with root permission?as default?11:11
godzirraHrm, I dont have startx11:11
ClayGit is not though it is sub user with no user it assumes root, when a users name is given as an argument it subs them11:11
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Sivikgandolfthewizard: thats not the name of the package that your trying to install11:11
Siviklightstep: does that help11:12
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b03ntogandolfthewizard: can you cp your /etc/apt/source.list to pastebin..11:12
EnselicEkUmBa: well you shouldn't use the root account all the time11:12
godzirraWhat do I need to intsall to be able to run "startx"?11:12
Jowigodzirra: do you want full gnome desktop or just a lightweight Xorg?11:12
gandolfthewizardok what am i looking for11:12
A-L-P-H-Awhat should the directory setting for /var/www be?  0777 root:root? I tinkered around with it, and now apache is now telling me I don't have permission to access /11:12
godzirralightweight11:12
Jowigodzirra: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems11:12
EnselicEkUmBa: put your files in the your home directory always11:12
ClayGhicham, http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl1_su.htm11:12
b03nto!pastebin11:12
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:12
EnselicEkUmBa: and install software and such as root only,dont use root for common computer work11:13
EkUmBaEnselic:my files are all in the home directory11:13
hichamA-L-P-H-A, it should be 77711:13
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EnselicEkUmBa: then you must have accidentally moved them there with the root11:13
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Jowigodzirra: for example from the page: sudo apt-get install wdm x-window-system-core xfce4 mozilla-firefox synaptic11:13
EnselicEkUmBa: stay away from using root, and you should be fine11:13
jribgandolfthewizard: /etc/apt/sources.list is a file on your system that stores the repository information.  Open it with gedit and copy and paste the contents to make a post at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org .  Then give everyone here the url to your post so we can see it11:13
EnselicEkUmBa: for intsance, if you make a sudo make install and some files are copied to your home directory11:13
gandolfthewizardwhat am i looking for i have a lot for java11:14
lightstepSivik, i think it does. it downloads several 2.* MB files now11:14
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EnselicEkUmBa: then the "nromal" you will not be able to change those file11:14
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godzirraok, reading now.11:14
JDStoneI'm receiving this error:11:14
JDStoneroot@server:~# /etc/init.d/smartmontools start11:14
JDStone * Enabling S.M.A.R.T. for /dev/hda11:14
JDStone   ...done.11:14
JDStone * Enabling S.M.A.R.T. for /dev/sda11:14
JDStone   ...fail!11:14
hichamso it is substitute user ClayG11:14
JDStone * Enabling S.M.A.R.T. for /dev/sdb11:14
JDStone   ...fail!11:14
JDStone * Starting S.M.A.R.T. daemon...11:14
hichamI never knew!11:14
jribubotu: tell JDStone about paste11:14
JDStone   ...done.11:14
A-L-P-H-Ahicham, if you don't mind what's the owner and usergroup setting?11:14
JDStonecan someone please help me?11:15
EkUmBaEnselic:okay,i see.and how can i now changed the "locked" files,so that i can see them in my nautilus without root permission?11:15
SkurupuI get this error when trying to install Baldur's Gate II using wine: 0x80040706 (http://consumer.installshield.com/kb.asp?id=Q110641) - Can anyone help me?11:15
ClayGhicham, i thought it was superuser for years11:15
JDStonejrib: sorry, I forgot about paste11:15
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SivikJDStone: turn off smart from bios11:15
hichamhehe11:15
JowiJDStone: what type of devices are /dev/sda and /dev/sdb?11:15
gandolfthewizardwhat am i looking for11:15
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sureshotis the ubuntu kernel in the ropos11:15
Sivik!pastebin > JDStone11:15
JDStoneJowi: they are in a RAID array11:15
A-L-P-H-AJowi: on my system SATA.11:15
EnselicEkUmBa: use nautilus as root (sudo nautilus in terminal), right click on the files, permissions, and set the permission as you want them11:15
nxvlhi, did someone know how do i make my company an ubuntu partner?11:15
ClayGhicham, it's just one of those things, like how ls = lollypop store, which lists everything in the directory11:15
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JDStonehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26010/11:15
JowiA-L-P-H-A: on my system a USB key :)11:16
A-L-P-H-AJowi: on my system SATA, md0 would be an array.11:16
ClayGhahahaha just messing around11:16
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EkUmBaah,okay.thats easy.well,thank you very much11:16
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JDStonemd0 is my array Jowi11:16
donnai am getting an error message after using synaptics to install the nvdia glx11:16
donnaits after i enter sudo nvidia-glx-config enable in the terminal11:16
hichamthe owner setting should be read write execute11:16
EnselicEkUmBa: Right Click -> Properties -> Permissions I belive11:16
JowiJDStone: no idea about smart on a sata disk, sorry11:16
donnawhere can i paste my error msg11:17
SivikJDStone: try turning it off in your bios11:17
gandolfthewizardstill trying to get java plug-in11:17
Sivik!pastebin11:17
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:17
hichamthe usergroup should be read execute A-L-P-H-A11:17
hichamClayG it is really lollypop store the ls?11:17
SkurupuI get this error when trying to install Baldur's Gate II using wine: 0x80040706 (http://consumer.installshield.com/kb.asp?id=Q110641) - Can anyone help me?11:17
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donnahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26011/11:17
ClayGhicham, nah i was kidding about that last one11:18
JDStoneSivik: it works on my hda drive, which is enabled in the bios, but I'll try that11:18
donnai already manually edited my xorgconfg to say nvidia but when i enter that command i still get the error again11:18
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hichamlol!!! ClayG I see but I wanted to be sure!11:18
jribdonna: the error message tells you what to do11:18
ClayGhicham, but if you are looking for oddities try this old unix command that is still around = fortune11:18
EkUmBaEnselic:it did work....but why is my system so slow with many files.in my picture driectory,there are 300 files.and ubuntu need a lot of time to open this11:18
dxdemetriouI have yet problems with my unichrome for glx, dri. It is because I had nvidia before or needs reinstallation the driver for x11?11:18
donnayes i did that, but when i enter the command it gives me the error again11:18
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donnai cannot enter sudo nvidia-glx-config enable11:18
godzirraHow do I change the driver?  Its trying to use VGA not i810?11:18
donnaeven after i change my xorg to say nvidia11:18
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jribdonna: you don't need to, that's all that command does anyway11:19
donnaoh11:19
hichamlol what is this for!! ClayG11:19
JowiSkurupu: I would ask in #winehq11:19
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donnaso what should i do if my X does not restart and im stick in that dos prompt termainal thingy11:19
donnainit 111:19
SkurupuJowi: okm thanks11:19
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jribdonna: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg,   will start a wizard for you to create a new xorg.conf in that case11:19
hichamClayG, at each time it gives a sentence!!!11:20
Jowinight all11:20
ClayGhicham, looks like shts and giggles, i was reading a unix book that is like 20 years old and it had it, i tried it in ubuntu and it worked11:20
jribdonna: (and you would go back to nv), or just edit again and go back to nv11:20
EnselicEkUmBa: It's probably because it wants to preview them, you can change that in Edit -> Preferences -> Previews11:20
EnselicEkUmBa: (I use the swedish version, so the names might be wrong)11:20
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hichamnormally in all bash terminals it works ClayG11:20
ClayGthere is another one that shows the filesystems in a 3d graphical view, more like cylinders but i cant find it on ubuntu11:20
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jribgandolfthewizard: do you want me to try helping you with java?11:20
ClayGhicham, i would imagine it is a program working on any terminal that has a unix derivitave11:21
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blaahow do i do before install lamp server11:21
Languidhi i want to uninstall all plugins listed in my about:plugins page from firefox, anyone know how i could go about doing that?11:21
ClayGanyone here know where i can find the termcaps file ? i want to change the default size that the terminal box pops up when i launch it11:21
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dxdemetriouAre there places that can I check for hardware compatibility with ubuntu?11:21
ClayGmake it a  little smaller11:21
blaahow do i do before install lamp server?11:21
hichamdid u ever search for the script ClayG11:21
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wikijeffHow can I show my home folder and trash on my desktop?11:22
ClayGtrying it now, just remember last time i had to find it11:22
jribLanguid: I believe about:plugins lists your plugins that you already have isntalled11:22
sureshotis the ubuntu kernel in the ropos11:22
jribLanguid: oh, uninstall, my fault.  You'll need to remove all the packages that correspond to the plugin11:22
Languidjrib, right, and i want to uninstall them...11:22
LjLuh... yes? is that a trick question? :P11:22
ClayGis there anything better then locate?11:22
ClayGfor searching?11:23
LjLsureshot: apt-cache search linux ;)11:23
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sureshotthanks11:23
Languidjrib, ah okay.  see i updated to edgy eft, and now gmail crashes when i try to view my inbox11:23
jribLanguid: dpkg -S /path/to/file   <-- this command will tell you the name of the package that owns a file.  So that may help you11:23
ClayGi saw another one just dont feel like pulling books of the shelf and flipping through them , takes alot of time11:23
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ClayGrather get spoon fed for a minute11:23
kuiperHow can i browse my network shares with xubuntu? Thunar seems incapable of doing so..11:23
blaahow do i do before install lamp server?11:23
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Languidjrib, that would be handy, thanks :)11:24
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EkUmBaEnselic:okay,thank you very much for your help11:24
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donnahow stable is compiz? for ubuntu11:25
donna!compiz11:25
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems11:25
jribLanguid: By the way, I think I've read about some people having that problem either on launchpad or the forums.  So you may want to do a quick search to see if there is a better solution11:25
blaahow do i do before install lamp server?11:25
EnselicEkUmBa: np :)11:25
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wikijeffAnyone?11:25
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donnahow do i know if my video card supports aiglx11:26
jribubotu: tell wikijeff about icons11:26
pooyahi, does anyone know why PS file look wide on wide screens?11:26
jribubotu: tell donna about xgl11:26
piratepenguinit's so damn frustrating the way Ubuntu rewrites grub's menu.lst when a new kernel is installed.. it should just add a new entry. /looks into submitting a bug report11:26
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frodoi want to add an environment variable (path to directory) how?11:27
blaahow do i do before install lamp server?11:27
lightstepSivik, it finished, next i did apt-get dist-upgrade, and it says it had nothing to upgrade11:27
piratepenguinfrodo, $PWD  ?11:27
jribblaa: what do you mean exactly?11:27
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donnathat link doesnt tell me how to install compiz11:27
lightstepSivik, also, i looked in synaptic for a package thich i know is in the Universe, and it still wasn't there11:27
kfm82northwoodfrodo, piratepenguin, $PATH11:27
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frodook thanks11:28
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frododone11:28
jribdonna: try #ubuntu-xgl, they are the experts11:28
youserhey i finaly got amsn working11:28
Ciausi just installed ubuntu 6.06 onto my home PC it cam eup fine, i did the online update, and now x server wont start says it needs 1875K and there is only 153k available11:28
CiausHELP!11:28
Ciaus1532k*11:28
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piratepenguinCiaus, what kindof a machine is this?11:29
Xavier101#automatix11:29
Ciausnetvista x4111:29
blaajrib: I mean what should i check before install lamp server cause i deleted /var and no backup.11:29
wikijeffjrib: thanks, but I'm using GNOME not KDE11:29
jribwikijeff: yes, the bot gives you information for both though11:30
Ciausmt is 217911:30
wikijeffjrib: ah, thanks11:30
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blaajrib: I mean what should i check before install lamp server cause i deleted /var and no backup.11:30
JDStonei think I figured it out: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26013/11:31
JDStoneany ideas?11:31
hichamA-L-P-H-A, so what did u do at last?11:31
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Languidjrib, ok, ill look on launchpad and see what i find, thanks11:31
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A-L-P-H-Ahicham, changed the /var/www to 0755, and it worked now... #apache was most helpful.11:33
silvermanis there a way to make .deb package from folder ?11:33
hichamok A-L-P-H-A11:33
Xavier101automatix2 has been released11:34
jribubotu: tell silverman about checkinstall11:34
jribsilverman: you may also want to consider the help.ubuntu.com tutorial if you want to do it the "right" way11:34
Languidjrib, i cant find any solutions on launchpad, just people giving the same problems... :\11:34
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blaajrib: I mean what should i check before install lamp server cause i deleted /var and no backup.11:35
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hichamso A-L-P-H-A it is like I told11:35
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hichamA-L-P-H-A, the owner is rwx the group is rx11:36
A-L-P-H-Ahicham: umm... you told me 0777 which didn't solve the problem... apache2 wanted 0755.11:36
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davidmacintoshhi folks: I'm running edgy and have installed libdvdcss2/read3 and all the usual tricks for playing encrypted DVDs but I just can't get it to work (totem/xine/mplayer/ogle).  anyone else running into encryption problems when trying to view their dvd collections?11:36
A-L-P-H-Ahicham: it was weird, cause I had it set to 0777, and it didn't work... changed it to 0755 and it did.11:36
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davidmacintoshany idea how I might get this to work (or what I might be overlooking)?11:36
hichamok man11:36
hichamA-L-P-H-A,11:36
silvermanjrib: i read about checkinstall, but it only can do with full source which include makefile and configure. i have a folder and i want to make it .deb so i extract it whenever i reinstall OS11:36
A-L-P-H-Ahicham: thanks though.11:37
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hichamlol A-L-P-H-A  welcome11:37
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blaajrib: I mean what should i check before install lamp server cause i deleted /var and no backup.11:37
jribblaa: I don't know11:37
blaajrib: thx11:38
silvermanjrib: any idea ?11:38
dyn-afkblaa deleted /var ?11:39
jribsilverman: I've not sure what you want to do.  Why not just tar your folder and then extract it?11:39
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dyn-afkthat's not a good idea to do so :P11:39
dyn-afkyour logfiles are in there11:39
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blaadyn-afk: I don't want to do that11:39
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silvermanjrib: a folder some programs i want to use .deb so when i install every file goes to right place.. for example mygame goes to game on menu11:40
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jribsilverman: do you just want to create a backup?  There are tools specifically for that11:41
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silvermanjrib: not only backup... i want it to check for dep as well if its not there it wget and install it as well11:43
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dv_hi11:43
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silvermanjrib: maybe my question is not clear... thanks anyway i'll try to google it11:44
jribsilverman: yeah I don't think I know exactly what you mean, but good luck, hope you find it11:44
Xavier101could anyone help with my dual monitor setup?11:45
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dashriKeso I am going to install to another drive in a few days, and I am debating whether I want to set up anothe dual-boot for games/CAD or just use Ubuntu and try my luck with WINE and/or Cedega and similars11:46
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silvermanjrib: another question can i unpack .dep file to see the files without installing it ?11:46
ChocoCidprobably want dual boot or something like qemu/vmware11:46
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davidmacintoshhi folks: I'm running edgy and have installed libdvdcss2/read3 and all the usual tricks for playing encrypted DVDs but I just can't get it to work (totem/xine/mplayer/ogle).  anyone else running into encryption problems when trying to view their dvd collections?11:46
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jribsilverman: if you mean .deb, yes.  dpkg -x11:46
ChocoCidbetter look up apps on winehq before you try using it11:46
ogami1972bhi folks- anyone ever set up a bot using supybot?11:46
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jribsilverman: you can open it with Archive Manager too11:46
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NicoleHi guys11:47
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silvermanjrib: u mean roller Archive Manager?11:48
dyn-afkyup11:48
jribsilverman: yes11:48
NicoleDo you know a msn to ue microphone an web cam11:48
dyn-afkor Xarchive (but that one isn't installed by default)11:48
silvermanjrib: yes that worked thanks alot11:49
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DaveyJmy sound vanished :( is there a way to reload the sound driver or module?11:49
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DaveyJi tried rebooting already11:49
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MiLK_MaNhi, does anyone know of a packaged program for print CD Labels or something11:49
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rokoati11:50
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sepheebearDaveyJ: have you checked 'lsmod | grep snd' ?11:51
dv_hmm is it possible to use a freetype version with the bytecode interpreter enabled?11:51
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mwedv_: yes if you compile it yourself11:51
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mwedv_: I didn't see any difference personally, though.11:52
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lucaz__Can I make a dist-upgrade using the dist from the cd?11:52
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rokohelp me activate acelerate graphi car ati randeon gecube 925011:52
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jribubotu: tell lucaz__ about upgrade11:53
silvermanjrib: i know i botherd u alot... last question sir...... how to repack it to original .dep11:53
Nicoleguys, are you mad at me???Do you know a msn to ue microphone an web cam11:53
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gnomefreakNicole: there really isnt one11:53
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Xavier101Nicole: have you looked into amsn?11:53
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MiLK_MaNtrillian needs to release a version for linux11:53
gnomefreakcam support isnt in any of the chat clients you would have to use another app.11:53
jribsilverman: you'll need to read the tutorial at help.ubuntu.com.  dpkg-buildpackage is the final command you will be working with11:54
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silvermanjrib: iam at that page cant find dpkg-buildpackage !11:56
DaveyJsepheebear: yeah the modules are loaded11:56
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jribsilverman: maybe they use debuild11:57
BuglouseI am using DarkIce with my Ubuntu Drapper installation... I have the lame files installed... but DarkIce says DarkIce.cpp:606: DarkIce not compiled with lame support, thus can't connect to ShoutCast, stream: shoutcast-0 [0] 11:57
sepheebearDaveyJ: then check dmesg for sound stuff also take a look at mixer settings11:57
jribsilverman: maybe this is more what you want: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/2011:57
Nicolethere is no one????? I ve heard about mercury11:57
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Nicolebut it's hard to install :(11:57
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boinkBuglouse: are you using the darkice .deb?11:58
rcmivdoes anyone know a good irc channel for motherboard/processor questions?11:58
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silvermanjrib: yah that nice... now i'll read this site hope it work the way i want it http://linux.about.com/od/ubupck_doc/a/ubupg12t07.htm11:58
Buglousei think so.. I used Synaptic to get it11:58
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boinkhave you tried to do the stream in ogg?11:59
kuiperkuiper@Kuiper:~$ sudo smbmount //DRAKE/harm/muziek /home/kuiper/Desktop/MUZIEK11:59
kuiperPassword:11:59
kuiper12304: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)11:59
kuiperSMB connection failed11:59
kuiperoooops :S11:59
boinkouch11:59
kuipersorry11:59
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THX-1138freenode #hardware11:59
Buglouseno i havn't... i will try different options11:59
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boinksee if it works in ogg11:59
THX-1138Hi Seveas11:59
Buglousebut i need it do stream in mp311:59
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RobHuHi - I'm watching a film on a projector on my laptop on Edgy, and about ever 10 minutes the screen blanks. In power management I have it set to 'Neer' for putting the display to sleep, but this hasn't helped. Is there something else that needs changing? Something at the CLI perhaps?11:59
Seveashi THX-113811:59
boinkyes, but see if it's working in ogg11:59
RobHuNever not neer..11:59
Buglouseboink: Still has the Lame Errpr11:59
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rcmivtrying to figure out if I can stick a core2duo proc in an Intel D875PBZ board11:59
boinkeven while doing an ogg stream?12:00
Buglouseboink: Still has the Lame Error*12:00
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Buglouseboink: yes12:00
boinkthat is really bizarre12:00
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Buglouseboink: I know... i was like what the hell..12:00
boinkare you streaming to an icecast server?12:00
kuiperhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26020/ < However i can connect fine with smbclient using the same password :S12:00
BuglouseShoutCast12:00
kuiperso now what?12:00
boinkohhh, that's a problem12:00
Buglouse..12:01
boinkshoutcast doesn't support ogg12:01

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