[12:01] <ompaul> mike-ekim, so now I want you to type, in the filter box: ipv6 it will give you two options
[12:01] <Daverto> how do i turn off the frambuffer
[12:01] <Daverto> framebuffer*
[12:01] <Teri2007> how do I make new folders I upload via vsftpd default to a specific owner:group when I upload? I want to upload and have the folder be assigned to root:apachegrp rather than teri:teri
[12:01] <Jowi> loper06: I would recommend to get a static ip address (or a dynamic one that doesn't change very often)
[12:01] <root> ompaul do you know the name?
[12:01] <ompaul> mike-ekim, click on the top one until it goes bold (double click)
[12:01] <mike-ekim> i dont have ipv6
[12:01] <Jowi> !framebuffer
[12:01] <ubotu> If you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[12:01] <SeanTater> in order to compile qemu, apt-get says I have to remove libsdl1.2debian-alsa. Is that safe?
[12:01] <ompaul> mike-ekim, disable it
[12:02] <megaqwerty> does anyone know where I could find a Edgy Eft .vmx file? I want to try it out.
[12:02] <ompaul> mike-ekim,  then try it - it may improve your browsing - however 256 megs more ram would also be very useful
[12:02] <loper06> Jowi: so the best and effiency way is just to use no-ip or a dynmaic dns provider?
[12:02] <Teri2007> ****how do I make new folders I upload via vsftpd default to a specific owner:group when I upload? I want to upload and have the folder be assigned to root:apachegrp rather than teri:teri
[12:02] <jhasse> How to change the thing that will happen when i click the powerbutton on the front of my computer???
[12:03] <ompaul> megaqwerty, edgy has its own channel #ubuntu+1
[12:03] <megaqwerty> thanks
[12:03] <pike_> mike-ekim: you might cat /etc/resolv.conf and make sure only one nameserver is showing up there
[12:03] <Teri2007> jhasse, how do I change that too?
[12:03] <Daverto> I dont even get GRUB
[12:03] <ompaul> jhasse, that is your hardware --- that is not a ubuntu issue
[12:03] <SeanTater> Teri2007: you can probably upload from epiphany or konqueror, as long as you give them your user and password on the ftp server, that may make it easier
[12:04] <Jowi> loper06: i never used no-ip so I can not say. Myself, I have got a "dynamic" ipaddress but it never change. in my domain controller (which is at the company i bought the domain from) I can set the pointers
[12:04] <jhasse> ompaul, But i can change it with windows, so linux can't?
[12:04] <ompaul> Rookie_, what is your question in full?
[12:04] <root> jowie it has 6 iron pins and
[12:04] <kitche> jhasse: it has to do with ACPI
[12:04] <ompaul> jhasse, you mean you alter your bios? you do that by pressing F12 or Delete or F2 as the machine boots up
[12:04] <Teri2007> seantater?  who is "them"
[12:05] <Jowi> root: ps2 connection probably
[12:05] <vlt> Hello. I have installed ubuntu Dapper and try to activate my notebook's wifi card. It's a Broadcom 4311 Chip so I did `modprobe bcm43xx` but when I run `iwconfig` no wireless extensions are found. What should I do?
[12:05] <jhasse> ompaul, no, setting in the windows energy options
[12:05] <root> Jowi thats right!:D
[12:05] <jhasse> kitche, Yes! How to change that?
[12:05] <ompaul> jhasse, I know nothing of that o/s
[12:05] <Jowi> root: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and hope that it will autodetect your mouse.
[12:05] <Hoxzer> somebody, make a email backup script for me
[12:05] <loper06> Jowi: thx. ill just let my domain expire next month.
[12:06] <Daverto> Whenever I start my computer I dont even get GRUB, but I've got it before on other distros, what do I do?
[12:06] <kitche> jhasse: look up changing ACPI settings in linux since I m not sure myself to be truthful
[12:06] <sethk> Daverto, boot the live cd or a rescue cd, to start with
[12:06] <sethk> Daverto, and then investigate what is going on.
[12:06] <jhasse> kitche, where can i see the ACPI settings?
[12:06] <Daverto> I have and it workds
[12:06] <Mogz> hey everybody. i'm looking for a piece of music player software that can play all (most) formats and that supports gnome samba network URIs...
[12:06] <GoldKeeper> how do i get a root account when running ubuntu live ?
[12:06] <root> jowi it shows dev/input/mice
[12:06] <Mogz> any ideas?
[12:07] <Squee> Is ther a good program I can play music out of without a gui, using just a terminal?  I need to be able to generate a playlist and then play it ou.
[12:07] <pau> hi. i've got and hp with ubuntu, my mike dosen't work, some one can help me?
[12:07] <sethk> Daverto, ok.  have you tried reinstalling grub, using the grub utility?
[12:07] <jhasse> GoldKeeper, sudo -s
[12:07] <kitche> jhasse: I m not sure but it's probably in the Admin part of your Desktop
[12:07] <Daverto> How do I do that?
[12:07] <sethk> Daverto, that would be my first step.
[12:07] <GoldKeeper> thankyou
[12:07] <Jowi> root: sounds ok
[12:07] <Squee> Is ther a difference between sudo -s and sudo su, other than sudo su lists the pwd?
[12:07] <ompaul> Daverto, it is fast about 2 seconds you can extend this by editing using the following command and increasing the seconds   >>>    sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:07] <pau> hi. i've got and hp with ubuntu, my mike dosen't work, some one can help me?
[12:07] <sethk> Daverto, best way is  to mount your root file system somewhere, do a chroot to it,
[12:07] <sethk> Daverto, then run grub from the command line.  Are you familiar with mount and chroot?
[12:08] <Daverto> no
[12:08] <jhasse> kitche, hmm.. can't find it
[12:08] <root> jowie still the same error
[12:08] <sethk> Daverto, ok.  are you at the machine now, with the live (or rescue) cd booted?
[12:08] <ompaul> Squee, you don't need either do  " sudo -i " if you must - and yoiu should not - it is just not the right way to admin a box
[12:08] <Jowi> root: put the error in pastebin
[12:08] <Jowi> !pastebin
[12:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:08] <Daverto> no im on another computer
[12:08] <pike_> pau: in a terminal run alsamixer and check the settings
[12:09] <root> Jowie is not that easy to do that with lynx:P
[12:09] <ompaul> adioe3, english please
[12:09] <dfgas> what is the channel for edgy?
[12:09] <sethk> Daverto, it would be easier if you were at the broken one.  I can try to point you in the right direction
[12:09] <Jowi> root: you got a point :)
[12:09] <pau>  hi. i've got and hp with ubuntu, my mike dosen't work, some one can help me?
[12:09] <Squee> ompaul: It's just more conveniant when doing large tasks that require root to not have to type sudo before everything
[12:09] <ompaul>  #ubuntu+1
[12:09] <sethk> Daverto, do you know the partition layout on the hard drive of the machine we are trying to fix?
[12:09] <adioe3> ompaul: sorry, an away message was set, forgot to turn it off
[12:09] <ompaul> Squee, sudo -i
[12:09] <Jowi> root: have you tried with another mouse? will the mouse work with a live-cd?
[12:09] <Daverto> I cant because my wireless card requires ndiswrapper and i dont have 2 CD-roms
[12:09] <Squee> alright
[12:10] <inflex> hi everyone.  I want to install vim 7 on my ubuntu box - however I see apt-get only goes to 6.4 vim atm... can I just install my own vim or will it bugger things up ?
[12:10] <root> jowie lol i have installed it with floppies:P
[12:10] <sethk> Daverto, we'll have to make the best of it then.  do you know the partition layout of the hard drive?
[12:10] <Jowi> root: btw, did you compile your own kernel?
[12:10] <root> i did the debian install
[12:10] <Squee> inflex: go get checkinstall
[12:10] <ompaul>  Daverto try a usb stick
[12:10] <Daverto> Yes, i partitioned it myself
[12:10] <Squee> inflex: that will generate a debian for you so if you have to remove it it is alot more simple
[12:10] <inflex> Squee: okay, getting it... got it
[12:10] <root> no i did not
[12:10] <inflex> Squee: tx.
[12:10] <sethk> Daverto, ok, so you know which partition is the root partition, and whether or not there is a separate boot partition?
[12:10] <ompaul> !checkinstall
[12:10] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page. - DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[12:11] <Squee> inflex: do the ./configure and instead of make & make install just run "sudo checkinstall"
[12:11] <Daverto> there is a seperate boot partition
[12:11] <ompaul> Squee, our bot has - cough - lots of clues :)
[12:11] <sethk> Daverto, ok.  is this an IDE disk?  primary master?  which partition is root, and which is boot?
[12:11] <root> Jowie i wanted to change all the debian names in the sources fromat and change it into ubuntu
[12:11] <root_> how do i mount a samba share?
[12:11] <THX-1138> !ubotu is amnesiac
[12:11] <sethk> root_, mount -t smbfs
[12:11] <Squee> ompaul: ha didn't know about that
[12:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is amnesiac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:11] <root> but i want gnomeworkingfirst:P
[12:12] <klekkus> hi everybody (again, and again a problem). I now has a problem at boot up, as i had then too. But to the case, when i boot up ubuntu on my hda1 i get alot of lines with error simular to this; buffer I/O error on device dm-2, logical block. Do anyone know if i can edit something in /boot/grub/ etc to make ubuntu skip it? thanks
[12:12] <ompaul> !samba > root_
[12:12] <vlt> root_: mount -t cifs ...
[12:12] <Daverto> IDE, Pri, /swap is root and / is boot
[12:12] <root_> thats what i thought but it tells me bad fs or superblock
[12:12] <Jowi> root: does "cat /proc/bus/input/devices" list your mouse?
[12:12] <sethk> Daverto, no, swap is swap.  root just means /.   if boot is separate, it is somewhere else
[12:12] <klekkus> it takes loooooooooootts of time to load the system because of these errors
[12:13] <Daverto> let me go check i pull it up on live CD
[12:13] <ompaul> klekkus, get a new disk soon, backup your existing data real soon
[12:13] <sethk> Daverto, what you need to know is, for example, first partition is /, second is /boot, third is swap (or of course whatever is actually true on this drive)
[12:13] <Squee> is there a program that can play music without having an xserver started?  I'm trying to run a game server / jukebox and I dont want to waste the ram for X
[12:13] <kmaynard> klekkus, what did you do different before this started happening
[12:13] <aaron_> hi
[12:13] <sethk> Daverto, also, I don't see what the wireless network has to do with being able to run the machine and talk to us at the same time.
[12:13] <klekkus> ompaul, why, the systems seem to work well, and i cant afford to buy a new
[12:13] <SkramX> Squee: mp3blaster
[12:13] <kitche> Squee: xmms2 mpd there is a couple
[12:13] <sethk> Daverto, unless you mean the only way you have to connect to the 'net is through the wireless.
[12:13] <kmaynard> Squee, look at mp3blaster
[12:13] <aaron_> im new to ubuntu and linux, and this is probably a stupid question, but...
[12:13] <klekkus> kmaynard, nothing, it has been like this since ive installed
[12:13] <SkramX> :)
[12:13] <root> how did you spelldeveicescorr4rectly
[12:13] <ompaul> Squee, depends on file type I use ogg a lot so I end up with - ogg123 -d alsa09 path/file
[12:14] <kmaynard> !mp3blaster
[12:14] <ubotu> mp3blaster: Full-screen console mp3 and ogg vorbis player. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:3.2.0-7 (dapper), package size 191 kB, installed size 612 kB
[12:14] <Squee> mp3 blaster sounds good
[12:14] <Daverto> that is my only connection to the internet on that computer
[12:14] <kitche> aaron_: no such thing as a stupid question really well besides one not asked
[12:14] <aaron_> i cant use any of the symbols on my keyboard, the symbols you access by holding down shift and pressing 1, 2, 3, etc.
[12:14] <Squee> thanks!
[12:14] <SkramX> :)
[12:14] <SkramX> sure
[12:14] <ompaul> Squee, pm?
[12:14] <kitche> aaron_: it's alt not shift
[12:14] <aaron_> like the 'at' symbol and 'dollar' symbol
[12:14] <klekkus> before i ran windows, now i run linux ( ubuntu ). It loads ubuntu after a long while, but it works seemless when its loaded. Exact the same with windows. My question is, is there a way to make ubuntu ignore these errors?
[12:14] <Jowi> root: does "cat /proc/bus/input/devices" list your mouse?
[12:14] <aaron_> ah
[12:14] <MotorCityMadMan>  how/can one clean/clear out old stored commands in run command box ?
[12:15] <Squee> ompaul: ?
[12:15] <kitche> aaron_: ah those hmm thought you meant the alt codes
[12:15] <kitche> aaron_: probably you have a wrong keyboard configuration
[12:15] <sethk> Daverto, ok, but you can have the machine next to you and talk to us using the machine you are using at the moment.
[12:15] <Daverto> yes
[12:15] <kmaynard> klekkus, what file system?
[12:15] <sethk> Daverto, ok, that makes things a bit easier
[12:15] <klekkus> ext3
[12:16] <root> [A[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[jowie it says unknownfileor dir
[12:16] <Daverto> thew other computer is booting the Live CD now
[12:16] <sethk> Daverto, ok, so you are about to do    fdisk -l /dev/hda         for us.
[12:16] <klekkus> kmaynard, but isnt it a simply parameter to add in grub config to make it being ignored?
[12:16] <root> Jowie it says unknown file oor dir
[12:16] <Daverto> i have to wait it is loading now
[12:16] <sethk> klekkus, make it ignore what, exactly?
[12:16] <sethk> Daverto, ok
[12:17] <klekkus> buffer I/O error on device dm-2, logical block <- these errors:)
[12:17] <kmaynard> klekkus, what file system?
[12:17] <klekkus> ext3
[12:17] <kitche> klekkus: not really since it's after grub gives control to the kernel
[12:17] <root> Jowie the dir bus only contains the dirs usb and pci
[12:17] <THX-1138> Squee: mpg321 or the closed source mpg123
[12:17] <klekkus> kitche, okey, is it a way to configure the kernel to ignore it?
[12:17] <sethk> klekkus, those are not normal things.  I wouldn't ignore it, even if I could.  You need to figure out what is actually going on.
[12:17] <aaron_> ok... left alt doesnt give me anything and right alt doesnt give me the symbols that match with whats above the key
[12:17] <Jowi> root: does "mount" show you "proc on /proc...." ?
[12:17] <sethk> klekkus, depends on why it is happening.
[12:18] <sureshot> crippy is there a good compiler out there for ubuntu just wondering
[12:18] <klekkus> sethk, and i have no clue why..
[12:18] <root> Jowie yes andits rw
[12:18] <Daverto> it give -i as an invalid option
[12:18] <kitche> aaron_: check your keyboard configuration you might have a wrong configuration ebfore I thought you mean altcodes not the symbols above the numpad
[12:18] <sethk> Daverto, dash L, not dash i
[12:18] <sethk> Daverto, lower case l,   fdisk -l /dev/hda
[12:18] <aaron_> no no, not above numpad, the main numbers in one row
[12:18] <THX-1138> sethk: Can i make grub skip network devices? "Configuring network devices" freezes the system after configuring Ralink Wifi.
[12:19] <kitche> sureshot: umm gcc g++
[12:19] <sethk> Daverto, your font must make l and i look similar  :)
[12:19] <nox23> Im looking for someone using a Hauppauge WINTV PVR-150/250 or 350 , Please!!
[12:19] <sureshot> kitche hay and do you have a list of commands and tip and such that you have put together is so could you send them to me
[12:19] <vlt> Hello. I have installed ubuntu Dapper and try to activate my notebook's wifi card. It's a Broadcom 4311 Chip so I did `modprobe bcm43xx` but when I run `iwconfig` no wireless extensions are found. What should I do?
[12:19] <sethk> THX-1138, that happens after grub transfers control to the kernel.
[12:19] <klekkus> may it be fixed with a defrag?
[12:19] <Jowi> root: can you modprobe mousedev and psmouse and see if that works?
[12:19] <Daverto> no, it has 4 options
[12:19] <sethk> Daverto, what has 4 options?
[12:19] <nox23> Im looking for someone using a Hauppauge WINTV PVR-150/250 or 350 , Please!!.
[12:19] <Daverto> Should i be using terminal on the live cd os
[12:19] <sethk> Daverto, yes.
[12:19] <kitche> aarpm_: yes I know what you mean I call that a numpad as well
[12:19] <sethk> Daverto, I assumed you were already at a terminal, sorry.
[12:19] <sureshot> thanks kitche is that installed with ubuntu or in the repos
[12:20] <THX-1138> sureshot - GCC is standards compliant. - some havee recommended Anjuta as i87~6ua development environment.
[12:20] <DigitalNinja> What's a good wireless pci card? I need one that works out of the box.
[12:20] <nox23> Im looking for someone using a Hauppauge WINTV PVR-150/250 or 350 , Please!!..
[12:20] <THX-1138> Thanks Sethk
[12:20] <SkippyX> Got a problem running synaptic. Tried to uninstall an app using synaptic and got an error message regarding kdeedu-doc-html. text of message posted here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25927/
[12:20] <Daverto> it says i have four options to to run the fdisk program with
[12:20] <kitche> sureshot: install build-esstenial(bad spelling) if you haven't already
[12:20] <sethk> build-essential
[12:20] <sethk> is the right spelling
[12:20] <nox23> Im looking for someone using a Hauppauge WINTV PVR-150/250 or 350 , Please!!...
[12:20] <SkippyX> It's a recurrent problem. Happens when I try to use synaptic to install apps as well.
[12:20] <SkippyX> Any suggestions?
[12:20] <sethk> nox23, probably nobody here at this moment is using it.  be patient
[12:21] <root> moucedevit cant locate moucedev and what was the other one?
[12:21] <nox23> sethk can you take a moment and see if you can help me ?
[12:21] <sureshot> THX-1138 i was thinking for kicks to recompile the kernel
[12:21] <jhasse> How can i activate 60 hz for my monitor? At the moment it's only supporting 75 hz
[12:21] <sethk> nox23, sure, but I don't have that card.
[12:21] <THX-1138> sureshot - hm - avoid irssi as your irc client. What was i87- ??
[12:21] <nox23> sethk www.pastebin.us/6124
[12:21] <Jowi> root: "mousedev" and "psmouse" check the spelling
[12:21] <sethk> SkippyX, trie creating an empty file with that name (make sure it is rw)
[12:21] <nox23> sethk im getting this using dmesg
[12:21] <klekkus> anyone knows?
[12:21] <SkippyX> sethk - K. I'll give it a go.
[12:22] <nox23> sethk but all needed files are in lib/firmware
[12:22] <sureshot> thanks kitche i will do that i have not done that do i need to download the gcc before i build
[12:22] <m1n1> I'm out of space of my root-partiotion, how do i grow it up?
[12:22] <THX-1138> sureshot - grab build-essential and the header files for your kernel.
[12:22] <sethk> nox23, does the file it is complaining about exist?  v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw?
[12:22] <root> Jowie indeed mousedev works
[12:22] <THX-1138> !build-essential
[12:22] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:22] <sethk> nox23, sorry, you were typing and I was typing at the same time  :)
[12:22] <aaron_> how do you scroll back in irssi
[12:22] <Jowi> root: and you need "psmouse" now as well
[12:22] <Daverto> i m in terminal and it says that -i is an invalid option and then it lists four options of what i can launch with the fdisk program
[12:23] <sethk> nox23, my first guess would be that it is looking for the firmware in a different place.
[12:23] <sethk> Daverto, dash L, not dash I
[12:23] <sethk> Daverto, lower case L         fdisk -l /dev/hda
[12:23] <THX-1138> aaron_ pgup
[12:23] <root> Jowdi can i aot get it?
[12:23] <sureshot> THX-1138  thanks man
[12:23] <nox23> but /lib/firmware is where hotplugs firmwares are supposed to be no ?
[12:23] <sureshot> kitche hay and do you have a list of commands and tip and such that you have put together is so could you send them to me
[12:23] <Jowi> root: "modprobe psmouse" should do it
[12:23] <eracc> gnomefreak, ompaul, you both said my /nick earlier? About an hour ago.
[12:23] <root> Jodi can i aptget it?
[12:23] <srikanthssn> my drapper hangs while upgrading or installing certain packages. it hangs at the moment "upgrading gnome-lib-docs" I got the same problem while trying to install Kaffine, F-Spot someone please help..
[12:24] <root> Jowi that can find module
[12:24] <gnomefreak> eracc: mine was a completion error
[12:24] <sethk> nox23, possibly.  if a file isn't found, there are only a couple of possibilities.  (1) it's in the wrong place or (2) it has the wrong permissions.
[12:24] <eracc> gnomefreak, ah, ok.
[12:24] <kitche> sureshot: not really sicne it depends on the thing that your compiling
[12:24] <nox23> sethk i did chmod 777 firmware .. :P
[12:24] <Jowi> root: strange. try to start Xorg anyway. if it doesn't work I would suggest you install Ubuntu properly.
[12:24] <sethk> nox23, a few lines before the end, you have a "misaligned resource pointer" message.  that may be the real problem
[12:25] <root> Jowi ok
[12:25] <sethk> nox23, or there may be more than one problem.
[12:25] <srikanthssn> google doesnt help me.. please help..
[12:25] <Daverto> It sdays that it cannot open /dev/hda
[12:25] <sureshot> kitche i was looking only for stuff to learn about.. i am a noob at this i an only thinking of doing that just to learn how is all any info anyone and send me will not go to wast on ubuntu
[12:25] <sethk> Daverto, ok, then your drive isn't IDE primary master
[12:26] <sethk> Daverto, or the required IDE drivers are not loaded.
[12:26] <sethk> Daverto, are you sure it isn't an SATA drive?
[12:26] <Daverto> it is IDE
[12:26] <Daverto> i know
[12:26] <THX-1138> aaron_: http://f0rked.com/public/irssi-docs/help-full.html irssi
[12:26] <Daverto> i work with computers a lot
[12:26] <nox23> sethk ight.. i complete every possible howtos about his and read all forums
[12:26] <sureshot> Daverto what kind of data cable do you have on it
[12:26] <ompaul> eracc, errors of tab
[12:26] <kitche> root is your Xorg complaining about /dev/mouse0? or no since I had that problem
[12:26] <Daverto> the side of the case is currently open
[12:26] <sethk> Daverto, I don't mean to be insulting, but remember, I don't know anything about you.
[12:26] <nox23> sethk reinstalling windows :/
[12:26] <dfgas> root@ubuntu:/boot/grub# grub-install hd0
[12:26] <dfgas> /dev/hdd1: Not found or not a block device.
[12:26] <dfgas> root@ubuntu:/boot/grub#
[12:26] <Daverto> that is fine
[12:27] <srikanthssn> my drapper hangs while upgrading or installing certain packages. it hangs at the moment "upgrading gnome-lib-docs" I got the same problem while trying to install Kaffine, F-Spot someone please help..
[12:27] <sethk> nox23, I wish I had the card here so I could be more help.
[12:27] <dfgas> but i edited everything i can think of
[12:27] <sureshot> Daverto same here
[12:27] <sethk> Daverto, at the risk of doing it again, do you have a regular IDE cable or an EIDE cable?  if EIDE, is the drive jumpered for cable select?
[12:27] <eracc> ompaul, yeah, I figured that out from what gnomefreak said. Looks like someone with a nick starting with "er" got all the ops attention. :-)
[12:27] <Daverto> no i have it set for master
[12:27] <gnomefreak> eracc: it was erUSUL  that i was attempting to talk to
[12:28] <sethk> Daverto, if it's an EIDE cable, it must be jumpered as cable select.  the eide cable has one blue, one grey, and one black connector.
[12:28] <SkippyX> sethk - directory ./kmessedwords wasn't there. created it and now I'm trying synaptic to install something small...
[12:28] <eracc> gnomefreak, yes, I saw that when I went back and looked after you told me it was a nick completion error.
[12:28] <Daverto> brb
[12:28] <THX-1138> srikanthssn: I am curious about that. - no reall ideas - Has a syntax erro crept into your sources list?
[12:28] <sethk> SkippyX, k
[12:28] <Elmister> se
[12:29] <Elmister> we
[12:29] <sureshot> gnomefreak i would like to ask if you have any ubuntu crib sheets or so that you can share with me. command line stuff is hard to learn if you have to look up everthng you have to do LOL
[12:29] <srikanthssn> no my source list in clean
[12:29] <SkippyX> danged dial-up
[12:29] <srikanthssn> i checked that too
[12:29] <Elmister> hi all
[12:29] <ompaul> eracc, shhhh
[12:29] <ompaul> :)
[12:29] <|chris3|> I have the oddest issue
[12:29] <Elmister> someone can speak italian?
[12:29] <ompaul> !it
[12:29] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:29] <gnomefreak> !commands
[12:29] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[12:29] <gnomefreak> sureshot: ^^^
[12:29] <|chris3|> my screen goes blank every time I watch a video file in totem for longer than 15 min.
[12:29] <spiwaterwing> probably sleep mode
[12:29] <|chris3|> If I move the mouse then the sreen comes back.
[12:30] <spiwaterwing> yah
[12:30] <spiwaterwing> it's just your computer sleeping to conserve power
[12:30] <Phlosten> |chris3|: screen saver options
[12:30] <SkippyX> sethk, that got it. thank you, sirrah! 'twas a maddening thing,  yet a simple fix (which is often the case, I've found).
[12:30] <Daverto> now i dosent even recognise the HD
[12:30] <|chris3|> Phloesten: the screen saver is set for two hours
[12:30] <srikanthssn> THX-1138: can i do anything abt tat?
[12:30] <|chris3|> Phloesten: it will come on if I don't play a video file
[12:31] <THX-1138> !easysource
[12:31] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:31] <eracc> sureshot, I think you would be helped by browsing tldp.org and by getting yourself a copy of Rute (http://rute.2038bug.com/).
[12:31] <sureshot> eracc what is Rute
[12:31] <Daverto> [16:08]  <Daverto> How do I do that?
[12:31] <Daverto> [16:08]  *** das-q (n=das-q@p54BFE718.dip.t-dialin.net) joined
[12:31] <Daverto> [16:08]  <sethk> Daverto, that would be my first step.
[12:31] <Daverto> [16:08]  <GoldKeeper> thankyou
[12:31] <Daverto> [16:08]  *** Jack_Sparrow (n=jack@ppp-69-230-19-223.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net) left ("Konversation terminated!")
[12:31] <Daverto> [16:08]  <Jowi> root: sounds ok
[12:31] <Daverto> [16:08]  <Squee> Is ther a difference between sudo -s and sudo su, other than sudo su lists the pwd?
[12:31] <Daverto> [16:08]  <ompaul> Daverto, it is fast about 2 seconds you can extend this by editing using the following command and increasing the seconds   >>>    sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:31] <andreasdk> Isn't there a plugin for Firefox that enables you to be taken to a new tab with the Compose mail feature whenever you press a mailaddress on a site??
[12:31] <Daverto> [16:08]  <pau> hi. i've got and hp with ubuntu, my mike dosen't work, some one can help me?
[12:31] <eracc> sureshot, I just gave you a URL for it. Go see. :-p
[12:31] <|chris3|> spiwaterwing: the sound is still running but the monitor gets no signal until I move the mouse
[12:31] <Phlosten> ick
[12:31] <sureshot> ok
[12:32] <kitche> Daverto?
[12:32] <spiwaterwing> |chris3|: I see.  Odd.
[12:32] <Phlosten> |chris3|: power saving option set from in bios?
[12:32] <THX-1138> eracc - that link to rute is golden. - thank you.
[12:32] <eracc> THX-1138, glad to help. :-)
[12:33] <aaron_> next question, how do i check keyboard configuration
[12:33] <|chris3|> spiwaterwing: yes odd
[12:33] <ompaul> kitche, he be shut up for a few mins
[12:33] <andreasdk> Can someone please help me?
[12:33] <andreasdk> Isn't there a plugin for Firefox that enables you to be taken to a new tab with the Compose mail feature whenever you press a mailaddress on a site??
[12:34] <A-L-P-H-A> Anyone know of an app that will test the speed of a harddrive in linux?  Looking to test the througput/bandwidth of a raid array
[12:34] <Daverto> sorry
[12:34] <THX-1138> http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz - awesome tips eracc
[12:34] <Daverto> irc conn went bad
[12:35] <|chris3|> phlosten: it happend afer I updated my kernel a few weeks ago
[12:35] <eracc> andreasdk, there is no builtin mail in Firefox. You can set an external mail handler with the network.protocol-handler.app.mailto config.
[12:35] <andreasdk> Seriously... There's got to be tons of the darn things outthere....!
[12:35] <kitche> Daverto: you do know you got muted for pasteing all of that in her right?
[12:35] <gnomefreak> here
[12:35] <gnomefreak> not in her
[12:35] <sureshot> eracc was that www.tlpd.org or http://tlpd.org
[12:36] <gnomefreak> ompaul: did you remove the mute?
[12:36] <Daverto> no
[12:36] <ompaul> yes
[12:36] <gnomefreak> ok
[12:36] <eracc> sureshot, both should work.
[12:36] <andreasdk> eracc: How do i find that little cousin???
[12:36] <ompaul> Daverto, ... I muted you due to the paste I
[12:36] <sureshot> reacc www did notwork i will attemp the other
[12:36] <THX-1138> the linux documentation project tldp.org
[12:36] <ompaul> also removed it
[12:36] <Daverto> it was an acciddent
[12:37] <Daverto> messed up on keys
[12:37] <eracc> andreasdk, in Firefox's location bar type 'about:config', press enter and then use the search bar shown to lookup 'mail'.
[12:37] <dfgas> can anyone help me with grub?
[12:37] <pau> hi. i've got and hp with ubuntu, my mike dosen't work, some one can help me?
[12:37] <Daverto> ubuntu is loading now since i switched it back to master
[12:38] <sureshot> eracc i cant get either to work ... i will scroll back and make sure i typed it correctly
[12:38] <eracc> sureshot, sec. Let me try here.
[12:38] <ompaul> Daverto, the point of the mute is to let the paste go by (and some of them can take a minute or two to clear)
[12:38] <pau> hi. i've got and hp with ubuntu, my mike dosen't work, some one can help me?
[12:38] <eracc> sureshot, http://tldp.org/ works from here.
[12:38] <Daverto> thanks!!
[12:39] <THX-1138> http://tldp.org/ sureshot
[12:39] <ompaul> pau,  double click on the "speaker" top right hand corner choose the "capture" and "switches"
[12:39] <sureshot> eracc the second letter  i l as in lemon
[12:39] <dfgas> lupine_85: any idea what i have missed with grub?
[12:39] <eracc> Yes
[12:39] <sureshot> i=is
[12:39] <eracc> Not one.
[12:39] <THX-1138> Hi @ompaul
[12:39] <pau> opaul, it is switch on!!
[12:39] <eracc> sureshot, it stands for The Linux Documentation Project - tldp.
[12:39] <ompaul> THX-1138, hope that was of use eariler
[12:40] <lupine_85> dfgas: not a clue, sorry
[12:40] <lupine_85> maybe you need to run update-grub or... something
[12:40] <pau> do i need some special driver?
[12:40] <THX-1138> ompaul - i looked a little. - i need to look at more links
[12:40] <andreasdk> eracc: Hate to tell you this but i cannot find a "mail" anywhere
[12:40] <sureshot> eracc must be the pain meds rotf hehe i just clicked on the url here it worked sorry man this back thing is not a good thing to have thanks
[12:41] <THX-1138> ompaul - Thank You
[12:41] <ompaul> THX-1138, np
[12:41] <eracc> andreasdk, did you type - about:config - in the lookup bar?
[12:41] <andreasdk> yes
[12:41] <maxLF> Hey
[12:41] <maxLF> How do I switch from the onboard graphics card to my ne video card?
[12:41] <andreasdk> eracc: yes i did
[12:41] <eracc> andreasdk, then did you see the "Filter:" bar?
[12:41] <sureshot> eracc hope i did not annoy you if i did sorry
[12:42] <andreasdk> yes
[12:42] <Teri2007> how do I remove a directory/folder.  I can get rm to work
[12:42] <eracc> sureshot, no worries dude.
[12:42] <dfgas> well i guess i will reinstall ubuntu then  :(
[12:42] <DigitalNinja> is a Pentium 3 and AMD k7 about the same
[12:42] <eracc> andreasdk, when you type 'mail' in the filter it pulls up nothing?
[12:42] <maxLF> How do you change from onboard graphics on a motherboard to a graphics card?
[12:42] <Jowi> maxLF: in your BIOS
[12:42] <kitche> maxLF: you should be able to disable your onboard though the bios and install the video drivers for your graphic card
[12:42] <gnomefreak> maxLF: disable the onboard card in your bios
[12:42] <maxLF> okay
[12:43] <piedoggie> Q: have multiple virt machines (ubuntu) running on XP.  I want to import part of the XP file system to store working data, bzr archives, etc. for each virtual machine.  the Q is what is the best network file system for exporting the xp fiilesystem (i.e. will maintain correct uid, gid, perms)
[12:43] <andreasdk> eracc: Something about GTDGMAIL, which is to be removed next time i strat firefox but nothin else.
[12:44] <eracc> andreasdk, hmmm, I guess I added that by hand here. Let me get the details for you.
[12:44] <THX-1138> piedoggie: export? - isn't it the host treated as a seperate machine on a seperate network link?
[12:44] <shea> (warning, about to repeat myself from 2 hours ago): well, hrm.  anyone ever had issues with extremely latent (possibly just slow) USB?  i'm using a motion controller and the input rate is what seems to be 2 samples/sec, same with other usb devices, mouse pointer updates ~2fps, etc.
[12:44] <shea> well, almost.
[12:44] <chrismurf> Just got a new laptop with Core 2 Duo.  It's 64bit and Dual Core - what's the right Kernel to use?
[12:44] <superkirbyartist> Sorry, but I am very disappointed of the incompatibility of the printer.
[12:45] <UKMatt> whats the difference between 32 and 64 bit?
[12:45] <THX-1138> chismurf - -smp
[12:45] <freemind> UKMatt: ask wikipedia
[12:45] <chrismurf> THX-1138, thanks - that will take advantage of the 64b?
[12:45] <eracc> shea, IMO USB is cheap crap. One gets that for which one pays. ;-)
[12:45] <UKMatt> well.. i wanna figure out whether I should use 32 or 64 on my computer
[12:45] <piedoggie> thx-1138  yes it is.  all N machines are treated as seperate machines
[12:45] <THX-1138> chismurf - go 32 bit - 64 multimedia and flash are horrid.
[12:45] <superkirbyartist> I am sorry I would just like assistance.
[12:45] <freemind> UKMatt: u'll find answers there
[12:46] <gnomefreak> THX-1138: its not horrid its non-exsitant
[12:46] <ompaul> UKMatt, 32 if you like it easy and want multimedia - 64 if you want a database server with more than 4 gigs and
[12:46] <shea> eracc, i agree :)
[12:46] <baconbacon> superkirbyartist, what's the problem
[12:46] <superkirbyartist> All my print jobs say "Stopped: job-stopped" :-(
[12:46] <shea> but most of my devices are usb
[12:46] <piedoggie> I'm running a bridged interface for all of the public interfaces for all virt machines
[12:46] <shea> unfortunate but true
[12:46] <superkirbyartist> Double bacon LOL :-D
[12:46] <pau> my capture funtion dosn't work, what can i do?
[12:46] <squee_> ukmat: 64bit is a nightmare for use in anything other than a server
[12:46] <THX-1138> lol @ gnomfreak - yes erm that too.
[12:46] <shea> luckily my real mouse is ps/2, heh.
[12:46] <eracc> shea, I understand. Even I, the USB loather, has some USB junk. :-p
[12:46] <UKMatt> ompaul, well just basic computer use, some movies and music though
[12:46] <UKMatt> ompaul, it's for my pc
[12:46] <gnomefreak> UKMatt: you want 32bit
[12:47] <shea> eracc, hard not to
[12:47] <freemind> hehe gnomefreak :)
[12:47] <chrismurf> THX-1138, gnomefreak thanks ;-)  I'll hold off on the 64bit for now ;-)
[12:47] <UKMatt> gnomefreak, alright ty!
[12:47] <gnomefreak> he said movies and music
[12:47] <shea> thanks to marketing!
[12:47] <andreasdk> eracc: Any luck with those strings?
[12:47] <gnomefreak> he doesnt want 64 for that
[12:47] <sureshot> hey all i thought the dual 2 core was 2 32 bit cpu's side by side will it run 64 bit
[12:47] <piedoggie> and a common net isolated from the public interfaces for host to guest private comms
[12:47] <ompaul> UKMatt, 32bit
[12:47] <squee_> sureshot: core 2 duo if that's what you mean is 2 64bit cores
[12:47] <superkirbyartist> baconbacon?  What do you suggest?
[12:47] <UKMatt> ya, i think i'm gonna try Vista, i'm still an Ubuntu fan though.. don't worry
[12:47] <gnomefreak> sureshot: no i think you need a 64bit cpu
[12:48] <chrismurf> core duo is 2 32bit
[12:48] <chrismurf> core 2 duo is 2 64bit
[12:48] <superkirbyartist> UKMatt: I happen to have a Vista RC1 DVD, but you need 512MB memory, but no 64bit.
[12:48] <jpcaron> !nvidia
[12:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:48] <eracc> andreasdk, ok, what I did was create a new file in my Firefox settings folder (~/.mozilla/firefox/<junkstring>.default/) called 'user.js'.
[12:48] <sureshot> chrismurf thanks man i had it mixed up
[12:48] <piedoggie> UKMatt: me to.  need to keep xp primary os but vm lets me have ubuntu near to hand
[12:48] <Ash-Fox> How do I disable preempt in the kernel?
[12:48] <ompaul> superkirbyartist, lexmark are the problem, get onto your retailers case, and say where is your support for GNU/Linux and Ubuntu in particualr
[12:48] <squee_> core duo is fake 64 bit
[12:49] <gnomefreak> lexmark drivers are fun to build :(
[12:49] <UKMatt> superkirbyartist, yeah I have 512, i've been holding off because I'm afraid it will be a little slow, but I wanna try it
[12:49] <eracc> andreasdk, then I put this line in that file: user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.mailto","/usr/bin/kmail");
[12:49] <superkirbyartist> All jobs are stopped; Ubuntu printer detected.
[12:49] <baconbacon> superkirbyartist, did you install a printer with system -> admin -> printing?
[12:49] <superkirbyartist> Go ahead.
[12:49] <shea> hrm, so, with misbehaving USB (works but slow), where would be a good place to start at least?  I'm not used to all this linux stuff, coming from irix. heh.
[12:49] <chrismurf> THX-1138, gnomefreak , so - can I upgrade to SMP from an x86 install
[12:49] <chrismurf> or will the world end
[12:49] <superkirbyartist> UKMatt: That is why there are trial DVDs.
[12:49] <UKMatt> piedoggie, well i've actually changed to Ubuntu as primary, but i'll duel boot into vista
[12:49] <sureshot> squee what do you mean by fake 64 bit .. i understand that amd is only the true 64 bit cpu
[12:49] <gnomefreak> can we please move the vista support somewhere else?
[12:49] <eracc> andreasdk, of course you will want to change "/usr/bin/kmail" to YOUR mail handler.
[12:49] <gnomefreak> chrismurf: yes
[12:49] <chrismurf> gnomefreak, thanks
[12:49] <andreasdk> eracc: Thanks a lot!
[12:50] <shea> the modules and settings and such i've looked at seem correct
[12:50] <UKMatt> superkirbyartist, hows the speed for you with 512?
[12:50] <Crippy-Boy> sureshot, Some of the Pentium D series are 64 bit
[12:50] <squee_> chrismurf: I think smp is built into all of the newer kernels
[12:50] <sureshot> hay all vista is a bad bad work heheh
[12:50] <Crippy-Boy> sureshot, and i believe the xeon is
[12:50] <eracc> andreasdk, you're welcome. IIRC I found out how to do that using an AltaVista web search.
[12:50] <sureshot> work=word
[12:50] <Darrage> Anyone here know about Wine? *newbie needs help*
[12:50] <squee_> sureshot: I was told that it can run 64bit operations systems but never to do it because it's done wrong.  I dont know much more than that
[12:50] <piedoggie> UKMatt:  that works too.  right now, I'm using xchat in ubuntu in vmware on xp
[12:50] <shea> bios is normal, controlled is found.  i get some strange output about the controller irq (saying "nobody cared" on the irq), but i tried what it suggsted to no avail
[12:50] <shea> sigh
[12:50] <shea> controller*
[12:51] <superkirbyartist> UKMatt: Sorry to tell you, but I have two 256MB computers; so I would need to put both RAM modules in a PC... too complicated.  I am happy with Linux except for that job stopped comment?
[12:51] <UKMatt> piedoggie, oh nice, I've done VMware (through ubuntu) and it was too much of a performance hit for me to deal a lot with it
[12:51] <gnomefreak> UKMatt: and EVERYONE ELSE for vista support call MS but not in here
[12:51] <eracc> http://www.altavista.com/web/results?itag=ody&q=firefox+mailto+mailer&kgs=0&kls=1
[12:51] <piedoggie> so if I can get the file system issues worked out, I'm be in happy land
[12:51] <sureshot> Crippy-boy xeon is but it has to be p4 xeon i have a computer with 2 xeon p3 they are 32 bit
[12:51] <sethk> shea, tell us the exact message about nobody cared
[12:51] <eracc> Bah, andreasdk left while I was typing. :-p
[12:51] <shea> sure, one sec.
[12:51] <UKMatt> gnomefreak, what?
[12:51] <sureshot> squee_ thanks
[12:52] <piedoggie> UKMat: weird.  I've seen the same perf hit on a pre-vanderpool cpu
[12:52] <ompaul> UKMatt, leave the MS stuff out of here
[12:52] <gnomefreak> UKMatt: this is not the place for MS vista questions comments or support
[12:52] <ompaul> UKMatt, pay microsoft for the support we do Ubuntu support here
[12:52] <sethk> ompaul, he's gone
[12:53] <wildchild> why won't k3b burn avdio data project: unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format  (format is mp3)
[12:53] <THX-1138> UKMatt: Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain at your own peril dorothy
[12:53] <shea> sethk, "irq 6: nobody cared (try booting with the "irqpoll" option)"
[12:53] <ompaul> sethk, ehh you don't say
[12:53] <ompaul> actually you do say :)
[12:53] <shea> then "Disabling IRQ #6" nearly immediately follows
[12:53] <Crippy-Boy> Jeez, someone should write a script that repeats any sentence with the string 'ms' in it 50 times, it'd save some of you alot time
[12:53] <squee_> wildchild you have to install mp3 for k3d
[12:53] <UKMatt> alright what about this, this is an ubuntu question, if I put vista on does that override my GRUB
[12:53] <Crippy-Boy> UKMatt, yes
[12:54] <gnomefreak> Crippy-Boy: we only _need_ to say it once
[12:54] <sethk> UKMatt, no, that's not an ubuntu question.  that is a what happens when I install vista question
[12:54] <wildchild> squee_ how do I do that?
[12:54] <eracc> UKMatt, install all other operating systems AFTER Windoze.
[12:54] <piedoggie> UKMatt:  perf is not as much of a prob on modern dual core cpu's
[12:54] <squee_> wildchild: apt-get install libk3b2-mp3 I think
[12:54] <Crippy-Boy> gnomefreak, I was being sarcastic because of the above, about 6 people said it twice :-)
[12:54] <squee_> wildchild: you might need the plf repositories to do it though
[12:54] <gnomefreak> UKMatt: win 2k was the only one that had a bootloader to boot linux
[12:54] <xorAxAx> hi
[12:54] <UKMatt> sethk, chill
[12:54] <xorAxAx> how do i process /var/crash data?
[12:54] <piedoggie> *OR* run vmware on windows and use full screen mode :0(
[12:55] <Crippy-Boy> superkirbyartist, You should learn how to deal with the keyboard first
[12:55] <xorAxAx> as in "load it into gdb" or "get the backtrace" and not "put it into launchpad"
[12:55] <lupine_85> superkirbyartist: run "fg"
[12:55] <sethk> UKMatt, I'm not being difficult, I'm clarifying for you what software is responsible for what configuration
[12:55] <perso> name
[12:55] <superkirbyartist> gnomefreak: What are you talking about?  Win XP can work alongside Linux!  But I removed XP.
[12:55] <perso> hi !
[12:55] <gnomefreak> superkirbyartist: you didnt read what i said
[12:55] <ompaul> superkirbyartist, remove the printer from the "printers" in system administration printers, power it off, power off the ubuntu machine, power onthe printer, and then the ubuntu machine, now install the printer and it should be okay
[12:55] <superkirbyartist> fg?
[12:55] <gnomefreak> superkirbyartist: xps bootloader will not boot linux
[12:55] <sethk> superkirbyartist, he meant that the native windows boot manager for 2k was able to boot linux.  not relevant, really.
[12:55] <Crippy-Boy> sethk, But it would affect his ubuntu install.
[12:55] <eracc> superkirbyartist, <gnomefreak> UKMatt: win 2k was the only one that had a bootloader to boot linux <- you did not understand
[12:56] <lupine_85> gnomefreak: there's a hacked version that does, apparently... but yeah. pointless when you consider grub
[12:56] <shea> man i feel sorry for you guys, look at all these questions :[
[12:56] <sethk> Crippy-Boy, possibly, who knows?  It's a vista question.
[12:56] <superkirbyartist> bash: fg: current: no such job
[12:56] <gnomefreak> lupine_85: hacked versions and windows go hand in hand in this channel
[12:56] <sethk> Crippy-Boy, depends entirely on what vista does w.r.t. the mbr.  has nothing whatsoever to do with ubuntu.
[12:56] <superkirbyartist> gnomefreak: Ubuntu comes with GRUB.
[12:56] <gnomefreak> Windows comments in another channel please
[12:56] <eracc> shea, this is what happens when an OSS distribution becomes popular with the "unwashed masses". ;-)
[12:57] <aboutblank> so i'm trying to make an logical volume... "pvcreate /dev/hda3"... the answer literally alternates between "successfully created" and "failed to write physical volume". when i try to vgcreate, it says "no physical volume label read" and "not identified as an existing physical volume"
[12:57] <sureshot> i thought all ms products were hacked hehe
[12:57] <Crippy-Boy> sethk, No but my point is, The MBR bring overwriten would cause him to be unable to boot ubuntu, which then becomes a ubuntu question reguardless of what caused it
[12:57] <gnomefreak> superkirbyartist: re-read it until you understand it
[12:57] <shea> eracc, whatever it takes i guess :p
[12:57] <superkirbyartist> Re-read what time?
[12:57] <sethk> Crippy-Boy, that's pretty thin
[12:57] <lupine_85> !grub
[12:57] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:57] <lupine_85> one answer :)
[12:57] <UKMatt> Crippy-Boy> sethk, No but my point is, The MBR bring overwriten would cause him to be unable to boot ubuntu, which then becomes a ubuntu question reguardless of what caused it  <-- that's my point
[12:58] <xorAxAx> how do i process /var/crash data?
[12:58] <xorAxAx> nobody?
[12:58] <piedoggie> still looking for some suggestions for my mixed ubuntu/windows file system questions
[12:58] <gnomefreak> xorAxAx: you dont have /var/crash in dapper
[12:58] <xorAxAx> gnomefreak: oh, i am not on dapper
[12:58] <gnomefreak> xorAxAx: join #ubuntu+1
[12:58] <xorAxAx> gnomefreak: cool
[12:58] <ompaul> !grub > piedoggie
[12:58] <UKMatt> If I were to install it how would I be able to re-enable GRUB
[12:58] <sethk> UKMatt, by that logic any question about anything whatsoever about the mbr is an ubuntu question, which is absurd.  but we've beaten it enough
[12:58] <gnomefreak> !grub > UKMatt
[12:58] <sethk> UKMatt, boot the live cd, and reinstall grub from there
[12:59] <wasabi_> piedoggie: What are you looking for?
[12:59] <ompaul> piedoggie, that is the only comment on it
[12:59] <freemind> lol sethk
[12:59] <piedoggie> ompaul:  :-)
[12:59] <sethk> UKMatt, or boot a rescue cd.
[12:59] <THX-1138> ompaul - workaround for the wifi "configuring network devices" lock up - configure (??) initrd then load wifi modules at the desktop with insmod. - sound at all possible? it sounds difficult.
[12:59] <freemind> lovely, sethk
[12:59] <freemind> where are you from
[12:59] <Crippy-Boy> sethk, Yes that is absurd, But if he is unable to boot ubuntu, Then it becomes a ubuntu problem *for him*.
[12:59] <piedoggie> ompaul: vmware machines running ubuntu
[12:59] <superkirbyartist> AHEN gninefreaj,
[12:59] <sethk> freemind, you mean geographically?
[12:59] <piedoggie> host xp
[12:59] <ruokblah> hey guys, quick question, does anyone know the user smb runs as?
[01:00] <piedoggie> need to make xp file system accessable to ubuntu machines
[01:00] <ompaul> piedoggie, talk with vmware
[01:00] <piedoggie> need to preserve ubuntu uid,gid, perms
[01:00] <freemind> sethk: yes, lol
[01:00] <superkirbyartist> GnOmEfReAk:  I do NoT understand.
[01:00] <Crippy-Boy> piedoggie, You can compile a kernel with NTFS support, but AFAIK its flaky
[01:00] <sethk> freemind, I'm in New York.
[01:00] <piedoggie> they have been ummm. hopeless
[01:00] <freemind> sethk: what could I mean else?
[01:00] <ompaul> superkirbyartist, drop it now - or you will not be here
[01:00] <ompaul> guess I was a bit late
[01:00] <zebedee> Good evening all. Quick question... what do you recommend for virus and adware removal on os 6.06??
[01:00] <Crippy-Boy> piedoggie, oh sorry, i didnt realise it was to do with vmware
[01:01] <ompaul> zebedee, nothing we don;t have that
[01:01] <croppa> I have a motherboard with a Realteck PHY RTL8201CL network card which Ubuntu doesnt pick up. has anyone else had this problem and how do I fix?
[01:01] <wasabi_> ruokblah: Whatcha mean? smbd itself runs as root, but forks for each user.
[01:01] <piedoggie> Crippy-Boy:  np
[01:01] <gnomefreak> zebedee: none if your not using it as a windows server
[01:01] <Crippy-Boy> zebedee, You dont really need it but its good if you email windows users regulaly to ensure you dont pass anything on
[01:01] <shea> ruokblah, i don't know about ubuntu in particular.  i would assume whatever you set, but on most systems, it runs as root or similar.
[01:01] <superkirbyartist> Can you people help me instead of explaining me how to use the keyboard ?!
[01:01] <sureshot> croppa hey man i no offense but is it turned on in cmos
[01:01] <jrib> zebedee: welcome to linux, support for windows viruses and adware is currently not implemented!
[01:01] <shea> the daemon anyway, i assume thats what you meant.
[01:01] <ompaul> superkirbyartist, I told you how you might fix it
[01:01] <piedoggie> I've tried the vmware file tol (loses ownership + perms)
[01:02] <mshiltonj> Can someone please help me find a way to recover from an X memory leaking w/o rebooting? I had the leak for sometime, but the only evidence I can find pointing to something specific is xrestop: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25929/
[01:02] <ruokblah> wasabi_: basicly i want to smb in to /var/www i have it working so that only local machines to my network can use smb on the server but for some reason i cant get write permsion from smb in /var/www
[01:02] <mshiltonj> How do I get that 1500k back??
[01:02] <ompaul> superkirbyartist, however you insisted on arguing the point
[01:02] <UKMatt> wait, so that I have this straight and don't ruin my partition, I let the Live CD boot up (drapper), run the Install Icon, and everything?  that won't damage anything as long as I don't format?
[01:02] <superkirbyartist> ompaul: I did not read it: PM me.
[01:02] <ompaul> !logs > superkirbyartist
[01:02] <piedoggie> trying samba but has the same prob
[01:02] <shea> ruokblah, you specify a user and group in the mount options
[01:02] <ruokblah> wasabi_: i have tried everything i can think of changing owner ship changing group chmod -R 777 everything
[01:02] <eracc> Heh, I love the Introduction in Rute:
[01:02] <eracc> 1. Introduction
[01:02] <eracc> Whereas books shelved beside this one will get your feet wet, this one lets you actually paddle for a bit, then thrusts your head underwater while feeding you oxygen.
[01:02] <zebedee> cool thanks everyone :-)
[01:02] <wasabi_> ruokblah: You need to make local users, and grant them access to the server, and establish either NT hashes or kerberos keys for them.
[01:02] <gnomefreak> UKMatt: made no sense you have to format the partition you are installing ubuntu on
[01:02] <wasabi_> ruokblah: Are you using AD?
[01:02] <ompaul> superkirbyartist, remove the printer from the "printers" in system administration printers, power it off, power off the ubuntu machine, power onthe printer, and then the ubuntu machine, now install the printer and it may be okay
[01:03] <kitche> mshiltonj: do you use firefox?
[01:03] <wasabi_> ruokblah: Or just plain two windows machines?
[01:03] <piedoggie> blech.  network file systems haven't improved much over the past 20 years
[01:03] <gnomefreak> *may*
[01:03] <wasabi_> NFSv4 is fine.
[01:03] <sethk> UKMatt, that reinstalls.  if you are still talking about grub, then that isn't what you want to do.
[01:03] <wasabi_> Network file systems don't need to improve.
[01:03] <sethk> UKMatt, you want to reinstall only grub, which you do from the live cd command line.
[01:03] <UKMatt> gnomefreak, no i mean for reinstalling grub alone
[01:03] <mshiltonj> kitche: I do.
[01:03] <freemind> sethk: please take my pm
[01:03] <piedoggie> wasabi: can I get an ntfsv4 server for xp?
[01:03] <ruokblah> wasabi_: i dont know what AD is and shea i think i did, and wasabi_ again, it is ubuntu server as smbServer and then a windows machine connects to it
[01:03] <ompaul> !grub > UKMatt
[01:03] <sethk> wasabi_, there are some unusual cases, but by and large that's true.
[01:04] <wasabi_> piedoggie: not likely.
[01:04] <ompaul> UKMatt, read the message from the bot
[01:04] <UKMatt> ompaul, i have that
[01:04] <gnomefreak> ompaul: been there tried that
[01:04] <piedoggie> thought so
[01:04] <wasabi_> ruokblah: You need to make a user for the windows user.
[01:04] <wasabi_> ruokblah: and run smbpasswd to set it's password.
[01:04] <kitche> mshiltonj: that could be leaking memory as well
[01:04] <wasabi_> ruokblah: The usernames much match.
[01:04] <shea> oh, sorry, i misunderstood.  the remote machine can't access the shared directory?
[01:04] <ruokblah> wasabi_: i have done that
[01:04] <mshiltonj> but quitting ff doesn't free the memory.
[01:04] <aboutblank> so i'm trying to make an logical volume... "pvcreate /dev/hda3"... the answer literally alternates between "successfully created" and "failed to write physical volume". when i try to vgcreate, it says "no physical volume label read" and "not identified as an existing physical volume"
[01:04] <croppa> good sujestion sureshot but it works in $M
[01:04] <wasabi_> ok, restate the problem then
[01:05] <ompaul> mshiltonj, it does, ubuntu (linux) do not treat ram as you might imagine - they reserve it run "free"
[01:05] <kitche> mshiltonj: correct firefox holds on to that memory even if you close it atleast from what I have seen try to turn off page cache that might help you to narrow your problem down
[01:05] <ruokblah> wasabi_: the problem is that from smb i can not get write persission at /var/www, that is the only directoy that does not work
[01:06] <ompaul> jadams|uncomfort, don't change your nick in a channel with nearly 900 in it please if we all did it the channel would not be usable
[01:06] <superkirbyartist> The logs take forever to load on dialup :-(
[01:07] <wasabi_> ruokblah: Does the user you made have write access?
[01:07] <gnomefreak> brb
[01:07] <ruokblah> wasabi_: when i log in to the box from ssh i can mod the files in /var/www with out needing to sudo or change users
[01:07] <wasabi_> ruokblah: Other than setting read only = No in smb.conf, that's all you need to do
[01:07] <shea> welp i have to go for a while.  good luck fellas
[01:07] <mshiltonj> ompaul, kitche: I understand that linux sorta keeps memory after the app closes, but it will reallocate if needed. This leak keeps the memory and never lets it go until I reboot.
[01:08] <mshiltonj> even after restarting X, the memory is still kept locked up.
[01:08] <wasabi_> mshiltonj: How do you know the memory is used?
[01:09] <ruokblah> wasabi_: i had writable = yes should that be read only = no?
[01:09] <wasabi_> ruokblah: No, those are equivelent. I'd read the log files.
[01:09] <mshiltonj> wasabi_: because once I get up to 90+% memory used, even immediately after restarting X, starting any app after that starts hitting swap.
[01:09] <ompaul> superkirbyartist, if your printer is not working, go to your retailer and ask them why it does not work with Ubuntu, and I am not joking here
[01:09] <mshiltonj> after rebooting, I don't have that problem.
[01:10] <ruokblah> wasabi_: ok i will dive in to the logs and then come back here if i cant get it still thanks man
[01:10] <Crippy-Boy> ompaul, and they'll say because we only support microsoft windows, it was on the box, screw you, go away
[01:10] <ompaul> mshiltonj, please paste the output of "free" someowhere
[01:10] <mshiltonj> This is a slow leak. I have to reboot this machine once or twice a week.
[01:10] <sureshot> superkeibyartist or go out to lexmark wep site and look it up they may have linux drivers out there for that make and model
[01:10] <wasabi_> mshiltonj: Well, you're going to need to come back with a screenshot of the output of free or something.
[01:10] <THX-1138> [Remote closed the connection] 
[01:10] <wasabi_> mshiltonj: Or "top"
[01:10] <ompaul> Crippy-Boy, then you know not to buy from them
[01:10] <mikeh> can anyone help me with a problem with my newly installed ubuntu dapper deskotp
[01:10] <superkirbyartist> ompaul: They will say "Well, here we have a copy of Windows XP Home for 200$".
[01:11] <Crippy-Boy> ompaul, Yeah, but heh its no good when you already have
[01:11] <Crippy-Boy> Speaking of which, What is nvidia 7900 support like in ubuntu?
[01:11] <superkirbyartist> Crippy-Boy: It does not say "We do not support Linux".
[01:11] <mshiltonj> ompaul, wasabi_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25930/
[01:11] <pauliukas> Can someone quickly help me with 'screen'? How to create a session? How to disconnect from it? And how to connect back to it?
[01:12] <sureshot> superkirbyartist or go out to lexmark wep site and look it up they may have linux drivers out there for that make and model
[01:12] <ompaul> superkirbyartist, this matter is not for further discussion here, #ubuntu-offtopic channel exists for that reason
[01:12] <PacketScan> pauliukas, man screen
[01:12] <mshiltonj> top reports high mem usage, but no PID is hogging memory
[01:12] <thomas_> I cant' get any working drivers fior my ATi card
[01:12] <superkirbyartist> Really?  Send me there.
[01:12] <pauliukas> PacketScan: It's overwhelmed by information.
[01:12] <Crippy-Boy> superkirbyartist, No but it probably doesnt say that it does either.
[01:12] <pauliukas> I know that the commands I need are quite specific.
[01:12] <cntb> may I suggest that canon printers are better supported in linux
[01:12] <squee__> thomas: what is your problem so far?
[01:12] <pauliukas> Any Linux user knows them
[01:12] <PacketScan> screen --help
[01:12] <Crippy-Boy> superkirbyartist, You cant pull them up on something they never claimed :-)
[01:12] <thomas_> the ATi drivers I downloaded don't work...  I get erros when I config them
[01:13] <thomas_> errors*
[01:13] <thomas_> So I have to use vesa
[01:13] <ompaul> cntb, you can, and so are hp 4050s :-) I have sevearl on my linux network in work
[01:13] <mcphail> PacketScan: "screen" creates a session
[01:13] <squee__> thomas_: wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide
[01:13] <mcphail> PacketScan: sorry - wrong nick
[01:13] <squee__> thomas: I used that and it worked great
[01:13] <PacketScan> mcphail, tis ok i knew what you ment :p
[01:13] <sethk> the way to avoid printer headaches is to use postscript printers.
[01:14] <apecat> wii thomas_
[01:14] <ompaul> and a few big epson dot matrix boxes
[01:14] <mcphail> pauliukas: 
[01:14] <apecat> aargh
[01:14] <thomas_> wii?
[01:14] <PacketScan> screen starts a session screen -list shows a list of sessions open.
[01:14] <wasabi_> mshiltonj: Try the output of top.
[01:14] <apecat> thomas_: /wii is the command for whois whois in irssi
[01:14] <wasabi_> mshiltonj: Find the leak.
[01:14] <apecat> a doublewhois that is
[01:14] <apecat> ..and i forgot thr /
[01:15] <sureshot> superkeibyartist what is the model
[01:15] <jpcaron> !w32
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <jpcaron> !w32codecs
[01:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:15] <thomas_> Be right back, I just installed KDE and need to boot into it
[01:15] <peace-keeper> hi where i go look if i want write access to ntfs partitions ?
[01:16] <Crippy-Boy> peace-keeper, AFAIK you have to compile the kernel with ntfs support, but its flaky (atleast last time i tried it)
[01:16] <ompaul> !fuse
[01:16] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[01:16] <sureshot> hey all just jumped out to the lexmark site linux or unix is not mentioned in any of there supported os lists
[01:16] <peace-keeper> hmm okay doesnt sound good
[01:16] <mshiltonj> wasab_: top, sorted by memory: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25932/
[01:17] <squee__> sureshot: it rarely is
[01:17] <ompaul> peace-keeper, that means if it dies you have been warned
[01:17] <mshiltonj> wasabi_: see my previous comment.
[01:17] <sureshot> just thought i would say
[01:17] <Crippy-Boy> It'd be nice to be able to boycott hardware companies
[01:17] <gnomefreak> ompaul: did you send mr lexmark to -offtopic?
[01:17] <guilhermee> peace-keeper, or find about ntfs3g (not 100% safe)
[01:17] <ompaul> I did
[01:17] <silvertip257> crippy-boy i sent u a pm
[01:17] <ompaul> is he there
[01:17] <wasabi_> mshiltonj: Okay? Don't see anything wrong.
[01:17] <mcphail> ompaul: yes
[01:17] <mshiltonj> wasabi_:  I'd love to find the leak. That's the problem.
[01:17] <gnomefreak> yeah :(
[01:18] <mshiltonj> wasabi_: top looks good, right. Aside from not knowing what's leaving me with only ~7MB of free memory.
[01:18] <wasabi_> 130MB actually.
[01:19] <wasabi_> Notice "cached"
[01:19] <ompaul> mister_roboto, what is with the changes?
[01:19] <wasabi_> Here's the thing. Linux will ALWAYS use all of your memory, except just a few MB.
[01:19] <wasabi_> It does this because there's no reason not to.
[01:19] <wasabi_> It will cache as much disk content as possible.
[01:19] <mister_roboto> ompaul: sorry about that. was having trouble changing my name in konversation :)   kept going to the alternate
[01:20] <wasabi_> Except a small ~10MB space so it can allocate new memory fast.
[01:20] <Olof> hello, im using ubuntu from the CD now. if i press places then computer i can see all my old windows harddrives (NTFS), but i cant open them. it says unable to mount.
[01:20] <cowbud> when I load up X and look in the log I see the following: I810(0): Option "RenderAccel" is not used although I have RenderAccel set to true is it not using renderaccel then?
[01:20] <ompaul> mister_roboto, k
[01:20] <vlt> Hello. I have installed ubuntu Dapper and try to activate my notebook's wifi card. It's a Broadcom 4311 Chip so I did `modprobe bcm43xx` but when I run `iwconfig` no wireless extensions are found. What should I do?
[01:20] <wasabi_> And, depending on your swappyness setting (located in /proc), it will actually favor cache for swapping a process out, depending on work load.
[01:20] <SkramX> 6.06 finally installed :)
[01:20] <duckdown> Does anyone know of an FTP client (preferably console) that can edit a text file on a remote server
[01:21] <superkirbyartist> Why don't you Canonical people follow your Ubuntu policy?
[01:21] <BenjaminG> Olof, create a file called /mnt/harddisk
[01:21] <duckdown> i guess essentially would automate the downloading, editing, and overwriting
[01:21] <squee__> vlt: you have to set up ndiswrapper and use the windows inf driver to make it work (unless it has recently changed)
[01:21] <mister_roboto> duckdown: you can do that with ssh
[01:21] <gnomefreak> superkirbyartist: you need to read the coc and the guidelines
[01:21] <mshiltonj> wasabi_: hmmm. that really helps. thanks. maybe I can configure my way back to better performance.
[01:21] <gnomefreak> superkirbyartist: you dont read them we cant help you.
[01:21] <squee__> !ndiswrapper
[01:21] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:21] <duckdown> mister_roboto> ssh?  but i can only ftp
[01:21] <willys_fueguino> hi I need to know who to talk to register an "ubuntu" domain...
[01:21] <rednaxel> my winXP partition is not booting anymore (after a power failure)... even tried a "recovery console", but it does a BSOD (complaining about ntfs.sys)... any hint? the (Ubuntu) Linux partition is working fine
[01:21] <vlt> squee__: Thank you.
[01:21] <squee__> vlt: your welcome
[01:21] <superkirbyartist> "Full professional support" doesn't mean "people who treat you like crap".
[01:21] <superkirbyartist> And who block you from IRC.
[01:22] <mister_roboto> duckdown: sorry to hear that :)    you don't have the option of running ssh on the server?
[01:22] <gnomefreak> superkirbyartist: we dont have to help you
[01:22] <sethk> superkirbyartist, full professional support also does not mean free
[01:22] <gnomefreak> we are not paid to help you
[01:22] <duckdown> mister_roboto> hehe not sure, it's my XBOX to be honest :p
[01:22] <superkirbyartist> But if the CD says it comes with support then it comes with support.  And there are Canonical guys who support the channel.
[01:22] <superkirbyartist> And they get paid.
[01:22] <gnomefreak> !coc > superkirbyartist
[01:22] <gnomefreak> !rules >  superkirbyartist
[01:23] <zebedee> all ways been of help to me
[01:23] <gnomefreak> abr superkirbyartist
[01:23] <willys_fueguino> superkirbyartist, like who??
[01:23] <elmister> someone speak italian_
[01:23] <mister_roboto> duckdown: aha.  well good luck with that ftp editing. certainly not part of the ftp protocol
[01:23] <willys_fueguino> gnomefreak, are you from canonical??
[01:23] <Crippy-Boy> another person that doesnt understand the concept of 'commercial support'
[01:23] <gnomefreak> willys_fueguino: no
[01:24] <willys_fueguino> hi I need to know who to talk to register an "ubuntu" domain...
[01:24] <wasabi_> mshiltonj: What you can do is explore each process, not just by RES memory, and see what ones have the most memory.
[01:24] <wasabi_> mshiltonj: Because of shared memory and stuff, it's very hard in modern OS' to give a "memory count" for any given program.
[01:24] <kitche> wills_fueguino: you will probably have to e-mail canonical about it
[01:24] <Brydenn33> need some help getting a program running guys. i keep getting this error "configure: error: Cannot find glib2/gtk2/pango"
[01:25] <sethk> Brydenn33, you are installing from source and you don't have the pango library installed
[01:25] <sethk> Brydenn33, search in synaptic for packages with pango and dev in the name
[01:25] <Crippy-Boy> THX-1138, no need, he/she/it is banned
[01:25] <Brydenn33> well i actually have Kubuntu hehe
[01:25] <mister_roboto> duckdown: you could always ftp the file to your local box, edit it,then ftp it back to the server
[01:25] <jrib> willys_fueguino: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/TrademarkPolicy/
[01:25] <duckdown> mister_roboto> yeah, thats the process i'm tired of doing though, especially when i'm trying to constantly make changes to files on the fly
[01:25] <johannari> clear
[01:26] <andy80_> hi
[01:26] <willys_fueguino> jrib, Thanxx...
[01:26] <CromagDK> my Nautilus just went down, is it possible to get it back up ?
[01:26] <txoof> How does anacron decide who to mail and with what method? I can't seem to find anything in /etc.
[01:26] <mister_roboto> duckdown: well... keep the local one then you only have to ftp TO the server   :)
[01:26] <andy80_> upgrading from dapper to edgy fails: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25933/
[01:26] <willys_fueguino> I already read it...
[01:26] <andy80_> lot of Gnome packages have problems
[01:26] <rance> i need some help with a usb image scanner install, its a Cannon N670U which IS supported by the plustek sane backend and IS loaded by the /etc/sane.d/dll.conf file, problem is that sane-find-scanner cant find the scanner, even though /var/log/messages shows the scanner being connected, can someone give me a hand?
[01:26] <jrib> willys_fueguino: you need to email them
[01:26] <mister_roboto> duckdown: i take it you don't have telnet either, eh?
[01:26] <CromagDK> !nautilus
[01:26] <freemind> txoof: sendmail, look into /etc/aliases
[01:26] <ubotu> nautilus: file manager and graphical shell for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 838 kB, installed size 2620 kB
[01:26] <mister_roboto> duckdown: never played with an xbox
[01:27] <cgarr04\Ubuntu> hey
[01:27] <willys_fueguino> jrib, is just that I need a fast answer... And I dont lose nothing asking here :-
[01:27] <squee__> duckdown: what are you doing on the xbox that you need to constantly make changes with?
[01:27] <jrib> willys_fueguino: oh, ok.  Canonical employees usually don't hang around here though
[01:27] <willys_fueguino> xDD
[01:28] <duckdown> squee__> the .xml configuration files
[01:28] <Brydenn33> sethk: what is the actual name of the file? cuz all i see is libpango1-ruby, libpango1.0-0, libpango1.0-dev, etc
[01:28] <duckdown> i'm adding shares, sources, etc all the time
[01:28] <squee__> duckdown: are you running the media center part or just linux?
[01:28] <sethk> Brydenn33, you need the library, and you want the package with "dev" in it because you also need header files
[01:28] <gnomefreak> canonical employees dont hang out on IRC on weekends either ;)
[01:29] <gnomefreak> rare few do
[01:29] <SeanTater> is libsdl1.2debian-alsa necessary for ubuntu (I have to remove to install another program)
[01:29] <freemind> sethk: please see pm
[01:29] <sethk> Brydenn33, probably the one without a number is for gtk2.
[01:29] <cntb> !rules >cntb
[01:29] <duckdown> media center
[01:29] <THX-1138> gnomefreak - saturday/sunday morning we could really use one.
[01:30] <Brydenn33> sethk: ok. yah i'm just trying to get Audacious to run hehe
[01:30] <squee__> duckdown: I can't really see much of a reason to do all the changes through the xml files... I use the dashboard on the program
[01:31] <squee__> duckdown: Though it still should be possible to use ssh
[01:31] <cgarr04\Ubuntu> How can I 'stream' mp3 files from a server on my network?
[01:31] <cgarr04\Ubuntu> For them to play I must copy them locally to play them via VLC media player.
[01:31] <mcphail> cgarr04\Ubuntu: use gnump3d
[01:32] <Jehjoa> good evening all :)
[01:32] <THX-1138> cgarr04\Ubuntu: VLC is a possibility
[01:32] <squee__> !avahi
[01:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avahi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:32] <squee__> !avahi-daemon
[01:32] <ubotu> avahi-daemon: Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD daemon. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.10-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 66 kB, installed size 308 kB
[01:32] <cgarr04\Ubuntu> Okay, thanks.
[01:32] <squee__> !avahi-utils
[01:32] <ubotu> avahi-utils: Avahi browsing, publishing and discovery utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.10-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 32 kB, installed size 140 kB
[01:32] <squee__> avahi is needed for vlc to sream
[01:33] <THX-1138> squee__ - cool, didn't know that.
[01:33] <sureshot> gnomefreak thanks and i read it
[01:35] <siloe> Please dont sucess install http://rtext.sourceforge.net/    Helping!?!
[01:36] <sethk> siloe, what problem are you having?
[01:38] <ruokblah> wasabi_: thanks for the log idea, turns out  that i had a printer in there that was erroring and that one below the printer, i removed the errored printer and poof it works
[01:38] <aboutblank> is it even possible to have one partition on a physical disk be part of an LVM based LV??
[01:39] <wasabi_> ruokblah: Heh.
[01:39] <sethk> aboutblank, the only thing that can be part of it is a physical disk, no?
[01:39] <aboutblank> ... what
[01:40] <aboutblank> i'm trying to make a spanned LV...
[01:40] <sethk> aboutblank, yes, and?
[01:40] <Clarrisa> I have a website that is supposed to be only using SSL / http.  But when I try it with http I get a directory listing in my browser though.  what did I do wrong?
[01:40] <aboutblank> and i'm trying to add one partition on a physical disk to this spanned LV... so i do "pvcreate /dev/hda3"
[01:41] <Clarrisa> I hope that made sense
[01:41] <sethk> aboutblank, right
[01:41] <freemind> alright
[01:41] <Born_In_Xixax> Clarissa, are you sure the URL shown in your browser hasn't switched to HTTPS?
[01:41] <aboutblank> sethk, so when i do that from the livecd, it tells me "failed to write physical volume "/dev/hda3"
[01:41] <Clarrisa> everything works right if I try the website with https:  but obviously I don't want the http to display anything
[01:42] <sureshot> well all goodbye for now my wife wants to take to a mexican restrount so i am off for supper  (fehitas) hmmmmm
[01:42] <mcphail> Clarrisa: you need to remove the "listen 80" line from /etc/apache2/ports.conf and restart apache
[01:42] <sethk> aboutblank, ok, but that doesn't tell us what the error is, only that the command failed.  If you are asking whether it failed because /dev/hda3 is a partition on a physical disk, the answer is, no, your command is correct
[01:42] <THX-1138> TC sureshot see ya soon.
[01:42] <sethk> aboutblank, it didn't fail because a partition is not allowed there; in fact, a partition is most commonly what you use.
[01:43] <Clarrisa> mcphail, ohhh... no, I didn't.  but the problem is, that I have another website that I want to be able to get to via port 80... can't I do both?
[01:43] <sethk> aboutblank, that's all it says?  no more information about why it failed?
[01:43] <aboutblank> sethk, that's all it says.
[01:43] <sureshot> THX-1138 see ya my friend and my friends
[01:43] <Clarrisa> mpchail, it's in a different virtual directory
[01:43] <aboutblank> sethk, actually, it ALTERNATES between that message and "physical volume /dev/hda3 successfully created"
[01:43] <aboutblank> sethk, but i still cannot add it to a LV
[01:44] <mcphail> Clarrisa: yes. You should have a config for "VirtualHost *:443" and not "VirtualHost *:80"
[01:44] <aboutblank> sethk, vgcreate says "No physical volume label read from /dev/hda3 \n /dev/hda3 not identified as an existing physical volume"
[01:44] <andy> hi, I have 2 hard drives, a windows one, and a linux one.  Is there a way to access the files on my windows hardrive from Ubuntu?  It shows up in "computer" but gives the error "unable to mount..." when I click on it
[01:45] <sethk> aboutblank, something is clearly wrong, but unfortunately I don't know what.
[01:45] <sethk> aboutblank, I believe there is a verbose option you can use on that command to perhaps get more information.
[01:45] <sethk> aboutblank, try it with -v
[01:45] <Clarrisa> mcphail, I did that as well... each site has it's own and the conf files are all stored in /etc/apache2/sites-available/<websitename>
[01:46] <Clarrisa> mcphail, the ssl one have the *:443 in it
[01:46] <Clarrisa> has
[01:46] <Dr_willis> andy,  double check the fstab entry for the windows drives. Hers a url that details what it should/can look like. Most likely you need to use the 'user' and umask=0222 (or similer options.
[01:46] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[01:46] <aboutblank> sethk, verbose says nothing interesting to say the most.
[01:47] <andy> where is the "fstab"?
[01:47] <sethk> aboutblank, I don't have any good suggestions at the moment, unfortunately.
[01:47] <aboutblank> sethk, alright.. thanks for the help.
[01:47] <Dr_willis> andy,  in /etc/ with 99% of the other config files. :)
[01:47] <sethk> aboutblank, in your situation I would probably strace the command and try to get an idea of what is going on, but the strace output is very difficult to interpret
[01:48] <andy> ok, one sec
[01:48] <Born_In_Xixax> Andy: please check the HowTo area of the Ubuntu forums: ubuntuforums.org
[01:48] <Born_In_Xixax> there are some tutorials on configuring NTFS access
[01:50] <leal> hello all
[01:51] <zebedee> hi
[01:51] <SuperMiguel> how can i use blitz
[01:51] <the_empty> I have a Dell Latitude running Breezy and it seems if I close the screen (*triggering gnome-screensaver to lock) the display never wakes back up
[01:51] <SuperMiguel> on ubuntu
[01:51] <Dr_willis> SuperMiguel,  what is blitz?
[01:51] <the_empty> Is this a known issue?
[01:51] <SuperMiguel> Dr_willis: programing language
[01:51] <Dr_willis> the_empty,  i would advise upgrading to dapper. It may work much better
[01:51] <the_empty> Dr_willis: sorry I meant dapper
[01:51] <Dr_willis> SuperMiguel,  check the blitz homepage then.. see what os's it supports.. and if you can copile it from source..
[01:52] <leal> i have a LG dvd player (4230N), avidemux, k3b, dvdstyler, cdrdao and some files (avi)...
[01:52] <Dr_willis> the_empty,  :P  Theres some issues with suspending, and some of the video drivers.. sadly.
[01:52] <sethk> the_empty, there are a number of problems of this sort related to power management.  It's not unusual to get this problem on a laptop.
[01:52] <sethk> the_empty, or a desktop, for that matter, if the power save features are enabled.
[01:52] <leal> where can i find a "real" how to to make a dvd?
[01:52] <the_empty> Dr_willis, sethk: I dig, but I want to know if theres some workaround
[01:53] <Dr_willis> the_empty,  hopefully the next release with newer kernel and video card drivers will fix a lot of them
[01:53] <the_empty> Dr_willis: Gah, OK
[01:53] <matteo> I'm trying to share a printer with cups, but I'm getting a network host busy error. Any ideas?
[01:54] <sethk> the_empty, I don't have any magic for it.  updating to the most recent kernel may help, but no guarantees
[01:54] <Dr_willis> the_empty,  blame the laptop makers for not following the standards I guess...
[01:55] <the_empty> sethk:, Dr_willis: OK... I know ACPI is totally screwed
[01:55] <YouCeyE> hello.. i have a brother laser printer.. when i connect it to usb.. it says belkin components
[01:55] <YouCeyE> usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[01:55] <the_empty> Oh nice
[01:55] <YouCeyE> [17205380.636000]  drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 4 if 0 alt 1 proto 2 vid 0x050D pid 0x0002
[01:56] <the_empty> I just killed gnome-screensaver and it came back to life
[01:56] <_Falcaum> alguem fala portugues!?
[01:56] <lunaticLT> hi.. why is 127.0.1.1 IP needed for local hostname in /etc/hosts in Dapper? It breaks my previous apache configuration. Can I change it to 127.0.0.1?
[01:56] <ompaul> !pt
[01:56] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[01:57] <Draconicus> How the heck do you burn a .bin format CD image?
[01:57] <_Falcaum> vlw
[01:57] <lunaticLT> Draconicus> k3b?
[01:57] <sethk> lunaticLT, it should be 127.0.0.1    where did 127.0.1.1 come from?
[01:57] <LjL> Draconicus: you could convert it to ISO perhaps. there's a package for that, don't remember what it's called
[01:57] <PacketScan> Draconicus, do you have the cue ?
[01:57] <the_empty> OK close enough to a solution I guess
[01:57] <Dr_willis> k3b can do it.. but ya got to figure out how. :P
[01:57] <lunaticLT> sethk> I dunno
[01:57] <the_empty> later all thanks for the help
[01:57] <Draconicus> PacketScan: Yes. K3B says the operation isn't permitted, though.
[01:57] <Draconicus> The output isn't very clear.
[01:57] <zenit> Draconicus: you might be lucky, sometimes a .bin is just like a plain iso-image
[01:58] <sethk> lunaticLT, change it to 127.0.0.1, I can't imagine it causing a problem.  make sure 127.0.1.1 does not occur in any files in /etc
[01:58] <PacketScan> convert to iso like LjL  suggested.. should provide a work around.
[01:58] <LjL> Draconicus: "bchunk" is the package
[01:58] <lunaticLT> sethk> hmm.... okay... I was just curious why was it needed. Thanks.
[01:58] <PacketScan> unless the cue file is written wrong/ contains incorrect path.
[01:58] <Draconicus> I'm actually on Gentoo. I use Ubuntu frequently and the channel was open, so I thought I'd ask here. I'll see if Gentoo has bchunk. It should.
[01:58] <PacketScan> fix the path then try.
[01:58] <sethk> lunaticLT, you need to be able to resolve the name localhost
[01:59] <LjL> Draconicus: ah, also, "cdrdao" can burn from bin/cue
[01:59] <Draconicus> Got all of that.
[01:59] <Draconicus> K3B uses that.
[01:59] <Draconicus> The path has ( ) in it. That may be why.
[01:59] <lunaticLT> sethk> it's not for localhost, it's listed for computers hostname
[01:59] <lunaticLT> sethk> localhost resolves to 0.1
[02:00] <kitche> lunaticLT: anything 127.x.x.x resolves to localhost anyways in reality
[02:01] <lunaticLT> kitche> yes, but I can't connect to my apache because it says deny all, allow 127.0.0.1 ;-)
[02:01] <Muelli> hi. I just updated to edgy and I wonder where the aiglx with compiz is. isn't that shipped out w/ edgy?
[02:01] <LjL> !edgy
[02:01] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:02] <Draconicus> PacketScan: Oh. Now I see what you meant. Lemme check that path.
[02:02] <kitche> Muelli: you probably have to install compiz but yes aiglx is part of it you might have to enable it though but #ubuntu+1 is the channelt hat you want
[02:02] <matteo> Hallo, I set up a printserver with cups, but I can't print to it. it's set to broadcast published printers, this works and they are automatically found and set by the client. Help!
[02:03] <vega_> im trying to install WINE but cant find it in synaptic package manager, any help?
[02:03] <aboutblank> where can i get more support for LVM?
[02:03] <LjL> !info wine
[02:03] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[02:03] <LjL> vega_: i suppose you don't have Universe enabled
[02:03] <LjL> !tell vega_ about universe
[02:04] <aboutblank> !info LVM
[02:04] <ubotu> Package lvm does not exist in any distro I know
[02:04] <LjL> !tell vega_ about wine
[02:04] <aboutblank> !info LVM2
[02:04] <ubotu> lvm2: The Linux Logical Volume Manager. In component main, is standard. Version 2.02.02-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 272 kB, installed size 800 kB
[02:04] <sethk> matteo, what happens when you try to print?
[02:06] <matteo> sethk: nothing no jobs appear on client but printer appears in notification area, when i chek printer status I get a network host busy message.
[02:08] <Muelli> thx kitche. I'll have a look
[02:08] <aboutblank> does anyone actually ever use LVM? do you format the partition before you add it to an LV?
[02:08] <sethk> matteo, can you print locally (that is, on the machine where the cups server is installed)?
[02:08] <peace-keeper> what linux command i use for binary file compare ?
[02:09] <aboutblank> peace-keeper, you can md5sum them
[02:09] <peace-keeper> ah good idea
[02:09] <peace-keeper> thx
[02:09] <Draconicus> brb
[02:09] <matteo> sethk: local printing is working, also when I check error.log and access.log there's nothing recognisably useful.
[02:10] <sethk> matteo, are the client machines running linux?
[02:10] <andy> I just installed ntfs-3g and now my CD-RW wont mount, how can I fix this?
[02:11] <vega_> hm... still no WINE
[02:11] <vega_> even though i enabled all repositories
[02:11] <matteo> sethk: both machines are ubuntu dapper
[02:11] <vega_> there are a lot of packages that are related to WINE
[02:11] <vega_> but not quite
[02:12] <sethk> matteo, what happens if you run lpq on thec lient?
[02:12] <kitche> vega_: wine has it's own repo
[02:12] <matteo> vega_: on wine-hq they give repositories to add uptodate wine to ubuntu
[02:12] <vega_> whats wine-hq?
[02:12] <THX-1138> #winehq
[02:12] <vega_> on this server?
[02:12] <kitche> vega_: wine's website
[02:12] <THX-1138> yes
[02:13] <matteo> sethK: I get aHPpsc1350 is ready and a second line with no entries
[02:13] <andy>  I just installed ntfs-3g and now my CD-RW wont mount, how can I fix this?
[02:14] <THX-1138> vega_: Be nice to vitamin the only one there that knows WINE like a religion
[02:14] <aboutblank> when trying to make an LV in LVM, vgcreate says "adding physical volume /dev/hda3 to volume group...no physical volume label...not identified as a physical volume... unable to add physical volume /dev/hda3" --- Why does it think hda3 is a physical volume?!
[02:14] <vega_> haha thanks
[02:14] <andy>  I just installed ntfs-3g and now my CD-RW wont mount, how can I fix this?
[02:15] <kitche> aboutblank: it's not it's saying it's not a physical volume
[02:15] <Garbaek> Could someone help me build a script that restarts a process when it crashes ?
[02:15] <aboutblank> kitche: really now. because it said it 3 times..
[02:16] <kitche> aboutblank: LVM is usually one disk but has slices inside of the LVM
[02:16] <andy> can anyone help me?
[02:17] <sethk> Garbaek, there are tools available that will do that better than a script you can write
[02:17] <THX-1138> Garbaek - the linux documentation project bash scripting guide is indispensable.
[02:17] <Dr_willis> andy,  try mounting it manually ?
[02:17] <sethk> Garbaek, look at the daemontools package.  look at the respawn option of inittab
[02:17] <andy> how?
[02:17] <aboutblank> kitche: o..kay... i'm trying to put together a spanned LV with /dev/hdb1 and /dev/hda3.. i pvcreated both, and i cannot do "vgcreate the_volume /dev/hda3 /dev/hdb1"
[02:17] <Dr_willis> andy,  you may want to research how linux mounts drives.. befor messing with the deeper things like ntfs-3g.
[02:17] <THX-1138> sethk - likely knows a lot better than either yoiu or i.
[02:18] <andy> it is a little late now...
[02:18] <Dr_willis> andy,  in short..  sudo mount /media/cdrom0  (or whatever its called)
[02:18] <Dr_willis> andy,  its never too late to learn
[02:18] <BannaMama> hi
[02:18] <GFkgod> hi
[02:18] <GFkeoffff> hi
[02:18] <Butmifjdsif> hi
[02:18] <Lo> Warning: `BannaMama,Butmifjdsif,GFkeoffff,GFkgod' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[02:18] <andy> I know, just I already installed ntfs-3g
[02:18] <Butmifjdsif> ?
[02:18] <BannaMama> ?
[02:18] <GFkgod> ?
[02:18] <GFkeoffff> ?
[02:18] <Lo> Warning: `BannaMama,Butmifjdsif,GFkeoffff,GFkgod' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[02:18] <BannaMama> :(
[02:18] <GFkgod> sad
[02:18] <GFkeoffff> lol
[02:18] <Butmifjdsif> heh
[02:19] <Dr_willis> andy,  i dont see how that sould be affecting the cdrom drive at all to be honest.. so you need to trouble shoot whats going on
[02:19] <Ash-Fox> !ati
[02:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:19] <vega_> hm... i went to winehq and did what it says, but now synaptic gives me an error
[02:20] <vega_> the error is "E: Type 'http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt' is not known on line 33 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:20] <sethk> THX-1138, what?  I'm not sure what you were talking about a moment ago.
[02:20] <andy> well, I installed ntfs-3g and then went to check if I could use my windows HDD and noticed that my CDRW no longer worked
[02:20] <Garbaek> sethk > thanks.. ill look it up
[02:21] <matteo> vega_: what is the exact entry you inserted in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:21] <kitche> vega_: do you have deb http://wine.budgededicated.com/apt <last part>
[02:21] <vega_> yes i have the whole line, not just the piece it showed in the error
[02:21] <vega_> with deb at the front and dapper main at the end
[02:22] <andy> I tried mounting it manually, but I got this: mount: can't find /media/cdrom1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:22] <Crippy-Boy> :-)
[02:22] <THX-1138> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~sethk - scripting something as a service
[02:22] <fluxinator> chmod 750 /usr/bin/rcp >> would this help improve security
[02:23] <sethk> THX-1138, ok, I must have lost the thread of the conversation.  :)
[02:23] <Celeste> hi
[02:23] <thejoe> Can someone tell me what is wrong in my simple shell script: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/WqyVOQ48.html
[02:23] <fluxinator> >><<
[02:23] <sethk> fluxinator, not in any meaningful way, no
[02:24] <LjL> thejoe: if ("$answer" = "y")   should perhaps be     if [ "$answer" == "y" ] 
[02:24] <vega_> is AMD64 i386 architecture?
[02:24] <thejoe> LjL: I tried that as well, but it didn't work
[02:24] <sethk> LjL, no, I don't think so.  the [ ]  are for the test syntax
[02:24] <LjL> vega_: no. but it emulates the i386 architecture, so you can install the i386 Ubuntu on an AMD64 processor
[02:24] <sethk> thejoe, what is it doing?
[02:25] <matteo> vega: WINE doesn't work properly with amd64 at the moment
[02:25] <fluxinator> sethk what could I do to this system to help lock it down further besides  running bastille
[02:25] <vega_> well shit lol
[02:25] <vega_> thats the problem
[02:25] <sethk> fluxinator, use scp instead of rcp
[02:25] <fluxinator> I dont use rcp at all afail
[02:25] <vega_> im on AMD64 with ubuntu 64
[02:25] <kitche> !language
[02:25] <fluxinator> k
[02:25] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:25] <andy> Dr_willis: Is there a way to return everything to how it was before I installed ntfs-3g
[02:25] <LjL> sethk, all i know is that using () gives a syntax error.
[02:25] <vega_> sorry ^.^
[02:26] <LjL> vega_: that's fine, except that on AMD64 you lack some things that exist for i386... like some video codecs, perhaps Flash...
[02:26] <kitche> thejoe: but what's does the script do exactly? when you run it like it doesn't read the answer?
you could try setting up a chroot for 32bit apps
[02:26] <thejoe> sethk: This is what I get: /home/malignant/Scripts/Master: line 7: [y: command not found
[02:26] <sethk> thejoe, take out the parens, to start with, you don't need them
[02:26] <aftertaf> whats with lilo in the topic?
[02:27] <Axe> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[02:27] <Axe> See `config.log' for more details.
[02:27] <sethk> thejoe, take out the quotes around $answer
[02:27] <kitche> aftertaf: lilo is the guy that ran freenode
[02:27] <Gabby_Hayes> vega-  .. did you d/l it, or from a disk?
[02:27] <Axe> Attempts to build things have this error
[02:27] <thejoe> sethk: ok
[02:27] <LjL> sethk: as in    if  "test" == "test" ; then echo Yes; fi    ?
[02:27] <Axe> how do I fix this
[02:27] <jrib> thejoe: you need a space after [ and before ]  like ljl pasted
[02:27] <kitche> also he owned it aftertaf
[02:27] <LjL> jrib: except that it seems that i got it all wrong...
[02:27] <erick> hello room, can someone help me with wine?
[02:27] <sethk> LjL, I'm wrong about [] 
[02:27] <aftertaf> kitche: ahhhhhhh ok. (getss the rest)
[02:28] <sethk> thejoe, here is an if statement that works:              if [[ ARGC != 1 ] ] 
[02:28] <mcscruff> anyone know an app where i can backup a whole partition (like ghost)
[02:28] <thejoe> sethk: it still doesn't work
[02:28] <sethk> thejoe, or,   if [[ $silen == "FALSE" ] ] 
[02:28] <kitche> mcscruff: partimage
[02:28] <loper06> question: in smb.conf how can i limit only one user to be logged in using the same login. i want to avoid 2 users w/ the same username to be logged in at the same time using sshd
[02:28] <sethk> thejoe, or,   if [[ $silen == "FALSE" ] ] 
[02:28] <mcscruff> kitche, ty
[02:29] <sethk> thejoe, so use:    if [[ $answer == "y" ] ] 
[02:29] <thejoe> sethk: I still get: /home/malignant/Scripts/Master: line 7: y: command not found
[02:29] <thejoe> Didn't connect
[02:29] <THX-1138> mcscruff - partimage (it is a seperat step to back the mbr)
[02:29] <sethk> thejoe, wait until I tell you what to do
[02:29] <thejoe> sethk: ok
[02:29] <sethk> thejoe, you can't try what I'm suggesting until I'm finished suggesting it.  :)
[02:29] <erick> I installed star wars, jedi outcast using wine. I can start it up fine but when I try to play it complains about the cd not being in the drive but it is in the drive. :/
[02:29] <Dr_willis> loper06,  hmm.. what does smb.conf have to do with ssh?
[02:29] <sethk> if  [[  $answer == "y" ] ] 
[02:29] <akano1n> hi, i need some help, im trying to config my wifi, i have a Compaq Presario v2000, and the problem is, i have a button in my keyboard that enables the wifi, but when i press it, nothin happens, stays off, anyone know why? i have installed ndiswrapper and all this kind os stuff
[02:29] <sethk> then
[02:29] <kitche> loper06: well sshd has nothing to do with samba
[02:29] <Ash-Fox> Is there not a single kernel I can use that isn't preempt?
[02:29] <sethk>     whatever
[02:29] <loper06> whoops
[02:29] <Ash-Fox> I really need preempt disabled
[02:29] <LjL> sethk: if [ "$answer" == "y" ]  works, as well. also, you do need the quotes, because otherwise, if $answer happens to be empty, you'll end up with a syntax error.
[02:30] <agent> how do i temporarily disable bug reporting tool??
[02:30] <mcscruff> THX-1138, its only to clone my winxp partition, pissed off at it fookin up, grub can have my mbr
[02:30] <loper06> question: in sshd_config how can i limit only one user to be logged in using the same login. i want to avoid 2 users w/ the same username to be logged in at the same time using sshd
[02:30] <sethk> LjL, I just tried it, no syntax error for an empty variable ... hmm
[02:30] <thejoe> sethk: if [[ $answer == "y" ] ]  worked, thanks
[02:30] <sethk> thejoe, np
[02:30] <kitche> mcscruff: the ntfs support is expermential in partimage
[02:30] <thejoe> sethk: why do I need to brackets?
[02:30] <thejoe> *two
[02:30] <mcscruff> kitche, expermential but still working?
[02:30] <Axe> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[02:30] <Axe> See `config.log' for more details.
[02:31] <Axe> how do I fix this
[02:31] <sethk> thejoe, because it doesn't work without them?  I have to look that up, to be honest with you.  I just looked at a bunch of scripts I wrote a few months ago.
[02:31] <kitche> mcscruff: it works but it might kill the ntfs filesystem I don't use it on ntfs
[02:31] <erick> is there anyone who can help me with wine?
[02:31] <thejoe> sethk: ok
[02:31] <sethk> LjL, of course, I use zsh, which doesn't have the scripting bugs that bash has.
[02:31] <LjL> sethk: ljl@ljlbox:~$ if [ $answer == "test" ] ; then echo SI; fi     [newline]       bash: [: ==: unary operator expected
[02:31] <mcscruff> kitche, i'll try :)
[02:31] <LjL> sethk: ah, well, but bash is the default shell in Ubuntu
[02:31] <sethk> LjL, bash error, I think
[02:32] <sethk> LjL, the quotes won't hurt anything, so I guess it makes sense to leave them in.
[02:32] <LjL> sethk: i'm not sure it's an error. variables are substitued literally in bash, so if a variable is empty, it will be substitued with emptiness
[02:32] <agent> how do i temporarily disable bug reporting tool??
[02:32] <THX-1138> mcscruff - take a peek at "testdisk". - supposed to solve problems with disk errors - (haven't tried it.)
[02:32] <sethk> LjL, indeed, but "" is equally empty as
[02:32] <sethk> LjL, (couldn't find a way to say nothing, :) )
[02:33] <LjL> sethk: but "" denotes an empty string. "simple" emptiness just denotes a syntax error, in that there is a "==" operator without a left operand
[02:33] <sethk> LjL, "" is a blank string, and $variable-with-no-value  is also a blank string
[02:34] <sethk> LjL, it's an interpreter, so I guess you can't really blame it for getting confused.
[02:35] <erick> can anyone help me use wine?
[02:35] <timalot> whats up
[02:35] <timalot> with wine?
[02:35] <erick> well I installed jedi outcast but everytime I try playing it complains about the cd not being in the drive
[02:35] <erick> it is in the drive though
[02:36] <LjL> sethk: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/quotingvar.html ---- note how "COMMAND $variable2 $variable2 $variable2" executes COMMAND with *no* arguments. so those variables are *not* taken as empty strings, but just as... nothing
[02:36] <erick> jedi outcast starts, but wont let me play
[02:36] <loper06> how can i do this? enable only one connection per username in sshd to avoid users from doubling up on logins?
[02:36] <lunaticLT> good night and thanks for help
[02:36] <timalot> erick: sorry not sure about that... u could always use a nocd
[02:36] <sethk> LjL, so, the docs have the same errora s the program.  :)
[02:36] <erick> timalot: thanks a lot, do you know where I can find something like that?
[02:36] <LjL> sethk: ah, well, i suppose you could see it that way.
[02:37] <sethk> Ljl  :)
[02:37] <thombone> odd, trying to upgrade my dapper to edgy fails
[02:37] <mcscruff> partimage (from repo) doesnt support ntsc atall
[02:37] <sethk> thombone, why odd?
[02:37] <thombone> well, it's a vanilla dapper
[02:38] <thombone> curious to find out what's blocking the script... once I find out I'll report it of course
[02:38] <holycow> *mmmm* vaaaniiilllaaa *grrglghghg*
[02:38] <sethk> thombone, edgy is unreleased.  it's constantly being modified
[02:38] <thombone> Oh I know
[02:38] <sethk> thombone, unreasonable to expect  it to always work.
[02:38] <thombone> I don't even get that far, the actual upgrade script is failing
[02:38] <thombone> so I'm curious
[02:38] <thombone> I don't expect it to work
[02:38] <holycow> there is no such thing as an upgrade scirpt
[02:38] <holycow> where does apt stop?
[02:38] <sethk> thombone, in that case, I'm also curious  :)
[02:38] <Scunizi> mcscruff:  You might take a look at http://pba-vm.sourceforge.net/ .... Looks interesting.
[02:39] <thombone> just wondering aloud why it doesn't and was wondering if it's a common problem
[02:39] <Tru7h> Guys, I'm having trouble booting up Ubuntu on my old Dell. Is there any way I can put it on several floppy disks and boot from those?
[02:39] <sethk> holycow, what do you mean, there is no such thing?
[02:39] <THX-1138> erick - visit the wine channel here on freenode.org  #winehq
[02:39] <thombone> sethk: ok well once I figure it out I'll let you know
[02:39] <sethk> Tru7h, it's not impossible, but it's not easy.
[02:39] <holycow> note: all dpkg does is look at the repo and upgrades to whatevre is newer, there isno upgrade script per se
[02:39] <aftertaf> thombone: what script? what are you trying to use to update?
[02:39] <BHSPitLappy> Tru7h, what's the problem?
[02:39] <Tru7h> It's a Dell 4100... I have two CD drives, and my master drive doesn't work properly.
[02:39] <sethk> holycow, well, semantics, I guess.  It generates a script, and then executes it.
[02:39] <Tru7h> Put simply.
[02:40] <thombone> holycow: ok, thanks... I'll run it again and try to figure out where apt is dying then
[02:40] <thombone> sethk: right that was my assumption as well
[02:40] <sethk> Tru7h, are you trying to install it, or just trying to boot it after it is installed?
[02:40] <holycow> sethk, *nod* thombone if you can narrow it down we might be able to help
[02:40] <erick> thanks a lot
[02:41] <thombone> at any rate, I'll keep playing with it... would love to run edgy (been a gentoo freak for years for that reason and really am loving ubuntu now, but still like to live on the edge haha)
[02:41] <mesut> hi how do i force dpkg to install a .deb (without deps)
[02:41] <a_pha> excuse-me I use weechat-curses to folow you but I'm blind and I can read more than one line at a time
[02:41] <thombone> sethk: thanks friend
[02:41] <thombone> peace
[02:41] <Axe_> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[02:41] <Axe_> See `config.log' for more details.
[02:41] <Axe_> how od I Fix this
[02:41] <holycow> thombone, edgy is very useable at this point in time, no big risk
[02:41] <aftertaf> i agree holycow
[02:42] <Tru7h> sethk: I'm trying to install for the first time.
[02:42] <holycow> typically if your dist-upgrade fails you just haveto wait a few days for repos to be udpated and it goes away
[02:42] <THX-1138> a_pha Welcome
[02:42] <sethk> Axe_, the compiler is installed?    you've installed the build-essential package?
[02:42] <timalot> mesut: from a deb file? ... then its dpkg-deb i think
[02:43] <thombone> holycow: my basic motivation is I want to play with the latest GCC and compile against cutting edge libc, etc. without running gentoo (gentoo has become quite a mess lately)
[02:43] <mesut> timalot: coultn find anything on both man dpkg and man dpkg-deb
[02:43] <sethk> Tru7h, that's more difficult.  too bad.
[02:43] <timalot> mesut: do u just want to extract the files or actually install the pacakge?
[02:44] <holycow> thombone, *nod* haven't looked at gentoo in ages ... care to elaborate?
[02:44] <a_pha> do you know if the next ubuntu cd will be usable with braille display to install
[02:44] <holycow> i'm just curious, not looking for a flamewar btw :)
[02:44] <loper06> anyone? how can i avoid 2 or more users w/ the same username from looging in at the same time from sshd?
[02:44] <gleesond> how do I change back to gdm? from xdm
[02:44] <thombone> holycow: sure, basically gentoo dev teams are infighting to the point where ebuild quality control is going way down
[02:45] <thombone> holycow: lots of politics about where they want the distro to go, nobody can agree
[02:45] <sethk> gleesond, easiest way is probably to force a reinstall of gdm
[02:45] <loper06> i just want to permit only one instance per user using ssh
[02:45] <holycow> thombone, weird, gentoo seemed very cool in that regard actually despite the fact it takes a week to install it
[02:45] <ciphernemo> Anyone here install mythtv on ubuntu? The #mythtv-users community sucks and is pretty much unhelpful. I just need some straightforward help in building mythtv and configuring it with mysql, then I can pick up from there.
[02:45] <holycow> :)
[02:45] <mesut> --force
[02:45] <mesut> --force-depends* found it timalot
[02:45] <thombone> holycow: it basically started over the gentoo livecd and easy install versions. some of the more hardcore think it's sacralidge ;)
[02:45] <timalot> mesut: cool
[02:45] <sethk> thombone, that's too bad.  I'm not a gentoo fan, but I hate to see people wasting effort that way.
[02:46] <holycow> thombone, i was always awe of their devs and help files but i never understood why anyone would create gentoo
[02:46] <holycow> when all you had to do is take debian to create the same thing with like 2 guys
[02:46] <THX-1138> a_pha - This release breezy badger has assistive technology support.  edgy should be no exception.
[02:46] <holycow> and get the benefits of both approaches
[02:47] <holycow> thombone, they'll figure it eventually, all projects have their ebb and flow, debian has always been a rocky boat :)
[02:47] <Axe_> configure: error: You must have the XTest library to build synergy
[02:47] <Axe_> grr
[02:47] <a_pha> THX-1138: yes but in the live cd there wasn't orca or gnopernicus install.
[02:48] <edgarin> Hi
[02:48] <THX-1138> a_pha Ubuntu is an african word for humanity. I thonk mark shuttleworth would like open source software available to everyone.
[02:48] <thombone> sethk: agreed, gentoo had it's upsides (and it's down, of course... who wants to compile software 24 hours a day) but if you wanted to be right on the very edge (which is sometimes important for a dev as you can well imagine) it's a great way to go for some. Not better or worse then debian-based (ubuntu et al) of course, just a different angle on Linux. But unfortunately, making a gentoo box even remotely stable nowadays, even sti
[02:48] <thombone> cking with "stable" ebuilds is almost impossible, it seems. That's why when I heard about Edgy I've been trying to play with it.
[02:48] <SkramX> what is the package i need to apt-get for all the compiling tools?
[02:48] <SkramX> it was like build-essentials? no.
[02:49] <ozzloy> i just put 6.06.1 in a computer and it came up with vertical lines
[02:49] <Tru7h> How could I mount Ubuntu to a flash drive?
[02:49] <ozzloy> how do i fix that?
[02:49] <thombone> sethk: my gal is an easier way to live on the edge, and I also have to say I'm in love with Ubuntu in general. It's really something special
[02:49] <Tru7h> And would that work for a Dell Dimension 4100?
[02:49] <thombone> seth my goal* rather, sorry
[02:49] <Axe_> argh
[02:49] <Axe_> I can't find xtest anywhere
[02:50] <holycow> thombone, i would generalize that and say debian is something special, and ubuntu is just a special case of special
[02:50] <holycow> *cough*
[02:50] <sethk> thombone, I'm quite pleased with it, and I've used a fair number of distros.
[02:50] <holycow> :)
[02:50] <aftertaf> SkramX: yeah
[02:50] <THX-1138> a_pha I don't know. - if you can use apt-get or better the package manager sysnaptic it will be available. - free-dom open source software.
[02:50] <aftertaf> !info build-essentials
[02:50] <ubotu> Package build-essentials does not exist in any distro I know
[02:50] <siloe> Hello, how to install file  *.bin ?
[02:50] <sethk> build-essential      not    build-essentials
[02:50] <SkramX> ah
[02:50] <SkramX> doy!
[02:50] <SkramX> thanks
[02:51] <SkramX> it isnt huge,, should be built in IMHO :)
[02:51] <siloe> Hello, how to install file  *.bin ?
[02:51] <patconnexion> sileo .. just type sh
[02:51] <patconnexion> ;)
[02:51] <thombone> holycow: good point and sethk: ditto
[02:51] <sethk> SkramX, no set of default options will satisfy everyone.
[02:52] <Tru7h> Does anybody know if I can install Ubuntu using Windows?
[02:52] <SkramX> of coure
[02:52] <SkramX> *course
[02:52] <Mr> hello
[02:52] <holycow> sethk, excellent poitn
[02:52] <aFx> Tru7h : use Vmware tool
[02:52] <vlade33> i can't successfully install nvidia drivers ... i followed this https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html... and nothing.. x won't even start
[02:52] <holycow> which also explains the existence of so much variety and seeming duplication in this neck of the wood
[02:52] <holycow> s
[02:52] <Tru7h> aFx: What does that do?
[02:52] <sidny4> Tru7h, how do you mean using windows? Using VMWare yes
[02:52] <Mr> I have a question im a complete noob at linux can someone help me privatly?
[02:52] <sidny4> it makes a virtual machine
[02:53] <aFx> http://www.vmware.com <---
[02:53] <sidny4> based on your hardware
[02:53] <holycow> Mr, just ask here
[02:53] <Mr> Ok
[02:53] <Tru7h> Well, I can use my second CD drive, so I was thinking I could maybe install Ubuntu from that drive while running windows.
[02:53] <loper06> is it possible to restrict ssh logins to one per user/username?
[02:53] <holycow> Mr, and welcome :)
[02:53] <xtriox> is it possible to shutdown the laptop when closing the lid?
[02:53] <sidny4> no, you would need to boot from the ubuntu CD
[02:53] <ChocoCid> yeah, you can
[02:53] <sidny4> at least I think so
[02:53] <Tru7h> Ugh... and there's no way to boot from a non-master drive, right?
[02:54] <ChocoCid> system- prefs - power management, xtriox
[02:54] <sethk> xtriox, yes, it is possible
[02:54] <THX-1138> xtriox - power management is unpolished. - maybe
[02:54] <vlade33> can someone plase help me install nvidia drivers for 6800
[02:54] <holycow> Tru7h, ubuntu doesn't have a windows installerd
[02:54] <xtriox> power management only let me suspend and hibernate
[02:54] <Xanotos> Could someone please instruct me hw to reset my MySQL password? I've tried the mysql -u root -p mynewpassword and it gives me an error.
[02:54] <holycow> you CANNOT install ubuntu FROM windows
[02:54] <sethk> Tru7h, there are some BIOSes that can do it, but you said your box is old, plus it's dell
[02:54] <Mr> I burned desktop ubuntu and ( formatted my whole harddrive on my other computer ) it boots up from cd then I click install sometimes it doesnt open sometimes the os freezes although its running from cd and I have another problem Im using my tv as the monitor and the bottom of the installer is cut off
[02:54] <sidny4> if you change some settings in your bios you can
[02:54] <ChocoCid> it has shutdown as an option
[02:54] <holycow> you need to use the installation cd from whatever drive you have and boot off of that
[02:54] <THX-1138> holycow - lol
[02:54] <Mr> Also it freezes evertime i get the the timezone part
[02:54] <xtriox> ChocoCid, but not for closing the lid
[02:55] <sethk> Tru7h, there is no problem running ubuntu from the slave drive
[02:55] <ChocoCid> er
[02:55] <Xanotos> Tru7h: You CAN, though, use VMWare Server (gratis) and run Ubuntu inside of that.
[02:55] <olof> Hi, how do I change my HZ on the monitor?
[02:55] <sethk> Tru7h, you simply install grub on the master, and let it boot both windows and linux
[02:55] <ChocoCid> yeah, i guess you'd have to do it via a config file
[02:55] <loper06> anyone? is it possible to restrict ssh logins to one per user/username? yes or no
[02:55] <Mr> uhh did someone read what I said so i can get some help?
[02:55] <vlade33> how can i install nvidia drivers on ubuntu.. i tried 2 times and x failed to loead
[02:55] <sethk> Tru7h, I think there is a bit of confusion.  I think you mean that you want to dual boot, with windows on master and linux on slave.  there is no problem doing that.
[02:55] <vlade33> load
[02:55] <freemind> I got a 10port switch with 3 ubuntu pcs, but only get broadcast ping from one of them, why?
[02:55] <xtriox> ChocoCid, I went to the config file and theres no option there
[02:55] <silvertip257> sethk:  good 2 know b/c i'm trying dual booting after i master linux :)
[02:55] <holycow> Mr, i read it, everyone read it
[02:56] <Xanotos> Is anyone here familiar with MySQL?
[02:56] <sethk> Mr, I would try a text mode install from the alternate cd
[02:56] <holycow> Mr, the rules are basically ask the question, sit and wait for an answer
[02:56] <THX-1138> !nvidia
[02:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:56] <patconnexion> what is command to change mac adress of the computer ?
[02:56] <holycow> someone will come around, and don't be rude and insist anyone help you
[02:56] <thombone> mr: no one is ignoring you, it's just that no one here probably knows the answer offhand
[02:56] <holycow> we all do this for free
[02:56] <Mr> ok
[02:56] <vlade33> i tried that
[02:56] <sidny4> Mr, the alternate CD is much better, I have had issues myself with the desktop CD
[02:56] <patconnexion>  Is there commande to change mac adress of the computer ?
[02:56] <Mr> after the ulternate installation will it run one when its done
[02:56] <THX-1138> Mr - you get what you pay for... - lol
[02:57] <jtholmes> Mr: i had the same problem the other night and I solved it by double clicking the install icon so it started two installs and when I got to to timezone i caneclled the other install and things installed
[02:57] <Xanotos> patconnexion: a MAC address is tied to a NIC
[02:57] <Mr> ill try it
[02:57] <kitche> patconnexion: yes there is it's part of ifconfig
[02:57] <Xanotos> patconnexion: You can do MAC spoofing and such, but I don't know ho to start with that. :-)
[02:57] <jtholmes> Mr: weird but it worked
[02:57] <xtriox> please can somebody tell my how can I shutdown on closing the laptop's lid
[02:57] <newbie> I am running the live cd of ubuntu 6.06 I was wondering if someone could tell me how to be able to watch quicktime trailers and windows media files streams working
[02:57] <sidny4> you want to shut down when the lid closes?
[02:57] <patconnexion> no i dont want to change for network but for the machine
[02:57] <sidny4> or you don't want it to shut down when the lid closes
[02:57] <xtriox> sidny4, yes
[02:57] <sidny4> ok
[02:57] <Mr> even when i double click it usually doesnt open 2
[02:58] <sidny4> should be in the power settings
[02:58] <Mr> Ill try though again
[02:58] <patconnexion> i found much about network adress but i want to change the mac adress of the computer ... Not for the network mac adress
[02:58] <aFx> Tru7h : if you try to install on second hd , you have to know well about Linux partision (grub,lilo)
[02:58] <Xanotos> Could someone please help me reset my MySQL password?
[02:58] <MissLady> I installed ubuntu on my hdd and i've UsbCableModem and need help to config it. With live-cd this usb modem worked very fine and automatically but since i installed ubuntu, it don't work. Can anyone help me pl ?
[02:58] <jtholmes> Mr: then click three times etc. until you have more than one
[02:58] <holycow> patconnexion, dude, your computer DOESN'T have a mac address
[02:58] <xtriox> sidny4, I want the laptop to shutdown when I close the lid
[02:58] <THX-1138> xtriox - you might try xev and xmodmap and tie that to a scrioted shutdown  #!/bin/bash shutdown -f -r now
[02:58] <sidny4> system->preferences->power management
[02:58] <holycow> mac addresses are at a component level
[02:59] <sidny4> and I believe it's on the general tab
[02:59] <ChocoCid> sidny4 : i already checked that, it's not there
[02:59] <sidny4> hmm
[02:59] <ChocoCid> really seems odd
[02:59] <ChocoCid> that was the first thing i thought of too
[02:59] <admin_> How do i tell what process is using most ram
[02:59] <kitche> patconnexion: umm MAC has to deal with networking
[02:59] <xtriox> THX-1138, in english please?
[02:59] <ChocoCid> gnome-system-monitor, admin_
[02:59] <sidny4> it's been awhile since I've used it on my laptop
[02:59] <holycow> admin_, or top in command line
[02:59] <THX-1138> xtriox - gconf-editor /apps/metacity will allow you to map a key (in this case the lid close button to a command)
[02:59] <patconnexion> because is the mac the same for bluetooth and internet for exemple ?
[03:00] <admin_> holycow: top dosnt always have it in order
[03:00] <holycow> pat no
[03:00] <Groovebot> !restricted
[03:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:00] <Mr> its kinda off topic but does anyone know if the 64bit edition is noticably better?
[03:00] <xtriox> THX-1138 , thanks I will try that
[03:00] <holycow> patconnexion, your ethernet card will have one mac address, your bluetooth device will have its own mac address
[03:00] <elite_hacker> htf is ubuntu pronounced?
[03:00] <admin_> Use Easyubuntu if you have problems with restricted formats, its easy
[03:00] <Renan_s2> elite_hacker, oo-BOON-too
[03:00] <holycow> ooobooontooo
[03:00] <LjL> elite_hacker: ooboontoo. or whatever you want.
[03:00] <admin_> elite_hacker: oooboonttwoo
[03:01] <patconnexion> when i connect to a bluetooth phone i have the same name that have been given by the university ... I got my computer from them
[03:01] <sidny4> Mr, I'm using the 64 bit, not too much better but it was more stable than the intel x86
[03:01] <patconnexion> i want to change this
[03:01] <patconnexion> :(
[03:01] <THX-1138> xtriox - type xev in a terminal prompt - see the keycode when you press the lid close button. map that code to a command - your #!/bin/bash  shutdown -f -r now    command script.
[03:02] <holycow> patconnexion, i know it can be done, i don't know how its done ... maybe a quick google would explain it
[03:02] <Mr> sidny4 So like programs dont freeze as much? or is it worth installing?
[03:02] <holycow> patconnexion, i just never needed to do that so i can't tell you, sorry
[03:02] <patconnexion> ok doesn t matter ... thanks
[03:02] <patconnexion> ;)
[03:02] <OmniD> Mission ATImpossible
[03:02] <elite_hacker> Renan_s2, LjL, admin_: thanks.  i was afraid i was going to make a fool out of myself at a linux user group meeting
[03:02] <sidny4> if you have an AMD64 processor, it might be worth installing
[03:03] <Mr> i do
[03:03] <Zarephath> I have a logitech optical wireless mouse...any way to get the scroll wheel to do a double click when depressed?
[03:03] <holycow> Mr, let me just say that in reading your comments you are not just a noob to linux, but computers in general :)
[03:03] <sidny4> I installed the intel x86 twice and both times the system either locked up or there were seg faults like mad
[03:03] <MissLady> I installed ubuntu on my hdd and i've UsbCableModem and need help to config it. With live-cd this usb modem worked very fine and automatically but since i installed ubuntu, it don't work. Can anyone help me pl ?
[03:03] <sethk> Mr, odds are you wouldn't ever notice the difference.  before installing it, make sure the things you need to run are available in 64 bit.
[03:03] <THX-1138> xtriox - no need for the -r - sorry -   shutdown -f  now    command script.
[03:03] <thombone> 64-bit linux is great for servers but for desktops I don't think it's quite ready for primetime yet... there's a lot of stuff just not working in 64 bit yet
[03:03] <Mr> ok, yeah i have the 64bit turion
[03:03] <Zarephath> MissLady: Your cable modem should work fine..I suspect your issue is with your network card
[03:04] <Mr> Yeah they said its good when programming
[03:04] <holycow> Mr, no
[03:04] <sidny4> yeah, that's the problem with 64, it keeps getting pushed up but it's just not ready yet
[03:04] <Mr> I read a article
[03:04] <sidny4> not perfected and there isn't enough support for it
[03:04] <MissLady> Zarephath i don't use network card but usb cable
[03:04] <holycow> Mr, even for applications that are compiled and built for 64 bit, the average user won't know the difference
[03:04] <Zarephath> MissLady: Sorry mis-read your post
[03:04] <Mr> o ok yeah im not going to worry about getting it if im not going to see a difference then
[03:04] <MissLady> Zarephath np ;p
[03:04] <vlade33> which "linux-restricted-modules" should i use when installing NVIDIA DRIVERS FOR 6800
[03:04] <holycow> Mr, 64 basically is not necessarily faster for the average workload, it mostly allows programs to address A HUGEASS AMOUNT of ram
[03:05] <sethk> Mr, I have some production machines running 64 bit ubuntu, but they have a narrow well defined purpose.
[03:05] <thombone> Mr: indeed you'll probably find 32-bit much more enjoyable for now
[03:05] <sidny4> vlade33, the one that matches your system best :)
[03:05] <vlade33> how do i know :)?
[03:05] <gleesond> so is there a way to switch to gdm with out reinstalling it?
[03:05] <holycow> Mr, so typically what benefits from 64 bit cpus are database applications, 3d rendering, and scientific applications that need large amounts of ram
[03:05] <xtriox> THX-1138, I typed XEV and a little box popped up, then I closed the lid but got no keycode
[03:05] <holycow> the average desktop user simply wont see the difference
[03:05] <Mr> Ok im not a big noob at computers
[03:05] <Zarephath> MissLady: First off you need to find out what chipset it is using...look at dmesg and see what usb devices are listed
[03:05] <Axe_> Anyone know where I can find xtest
[03:05] <newbie> Could someone also tell me if there is a way to get xgl to work on ubuntu live cd
[03:05] <sidny4> it's mostly based off of your CPU
[03:05] <thombone> 64 bit can even be slower than 32 bit in some cases
[03:06] <sethk> xtriox, the lid switch is not treated as a keyboard key, you can't identify it that way.
[03:06] <joejaxx> !xgl
[03:06] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:06] <joejaxx> newbie: ^
[03:06] <joejaxx> :)
[03:06] <holycow> Mr, :) lol is allright, i worry sometimes that if people don't have the proper perspective they come to the wrong conclusions about stuff.  you see to be open minded :)
[03:06] <vlade33> sidny4: i have a p4 ht 3.2
[03:06] <Mr> my installation wont open on ubuntu live cd
[03:06] <sidny4> probably the 686 then
[03:06] <MissLady> Zarephath what i need to do ... i'm new in linux and i don't know dmesg command
[03:06] <holycow> Mr, then download the alternate cd everyone told you about
[03:06] <Mr> ok but is it going to look like this when its done installing?
[03:06] <holycow> that will install for sure, unless you hae some bizarro hardware configuration no one has ever heard of
[03:06] <Zarephath> MissLady: dmesg |less from the terminal
[03:06] <xtriox> sethk, then is not possible to shutdown when closing the lid?
[03:07] <aboutblank> how can i check the filesystem of a drive?
[03:07] <holycow> Mr, like the desktop you see on your live cd
[03:07] <sidny4> Mr, it will look like what the live CD looked like
[03:07] <holycow> sidny4, you type too slow
[03:07] <holycow> >_>
[03:07] <holycow> :)
[03:07] <sidny4> haha, so
[03:07] <sidny4> :P
[03:07] <Mr> ok good now i have to download alternate cd :(
[03:07] <Xanotos> Is there a relatively simple way to setup a DNS server in Ubuntu? My domain registrar (godaddy) requires two different nameservers, and I only have a single IP.
[03:07] <sethk> xtriox, it's possible to detect the switch and fire off a switch.  It doesn't happen at the X windows level, it is a lower level thing.  Try google; I found it a few weeks ago and I'm sure it is still there.  :)
[03:07] <Zarephath> MissLady: Your up down arrows let you scroll...to quit just press "q"
[03:07] <totall_6_7> Mr: that is how it looks till you install themes hehehehe
[03:07] <sidny4> yeah, but once it's downloaded you will have a piece of pure happiness
[03:07] <DigitalNinja> Can I setup Xubuntu in spanish?
[03:08] <MissLady> Zarephath thx. if i resume i need to do dmesg in terminal when live-cd running or i must do that in my new installation ?
[03:08] <aftertaf> DigitalNinja: yes
[03:08] <holycow> Mr, well you can go :( about that, but then did you pay a  penny for about 100 000$ worth of software that cd comes with?
[03:08] <Mr> I want it to look like that besides the background
[03:08] <patconnexion> by the way ... Have any one an azerty keyboard ? It s alway s the same problems with numbers.. caps lock is not working for numbers... I tried to look arround in keyboard layout but there is nothing to do :( I'm french but i realy hate those azerty keyboards.. Not good for Linux :(
[03:08] <Mr> looks like s***
[03:08] <holycow> if you look at it that way downloading another cd is :)
[03:08] <holycow> right?
[03:08] <DigitalNinja> aftertaf: Will there be an option at login to switch between english and spanish?
[03:08] <holycow> Mr, you can change the wallpaper
[03:08] <ChocoCid> you can change EVERYTHING heh
[03:08] <Zarephath> MissLady: You can do it both ways...I suggest if your cable modem is working with the live cd then look at what is different booted to live-cd versus install
[03:08] <ChocoCid> wallpaper, toolbars, title bars, colorschemes, hell, you can change your windows manager altogether
[03:08] <Mr> Yeah i know umm whats the difference between the server edition from desktop
[03:09] <Mr> is server all texted based?
[03:09] <ChocoCid> server edition has no GUI, i think
[03:09] <ChocoCid> !server
[03:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[03:09] <xtriox> THX-1138, thanks for trying
[03:09] <sidny4> server is what it says, a server
[03:09] <holycow> Mr, not a lot, server has less packages, no gui interface
[03:09] <Mr> i like gui
[03:09] <aftertaf> DigitalNinja: not really... but you can setup a user for one or the other.
[03:09] <Mr> i had it before
[03:09] <ChocoCid> heh
[03:09] <ChocoCid> it's hard to use a computer without a GUI
[03:09] <Mr> i just looked at the screen
[03:09] <Mr> lol
[03:09] <holycow> ChocoCid, *umm* no
[03:09] <holycow> sorry
[03:09] <MissLady> Zarephath: Thx a lot i'll try this now :)
[03:09] <sidny4> gui is for sissies :D
[03:09] <simpla> does any one know if linux doesn't quite support my laptop (ie ACPI etc), is it possible that it could over heat?
[03:09] <holycow> *ding*
[03:09] <sidny4> so, I'm a sissy
[03:09] <holycow> back to the line with you!
[03:09] <Zarephath> MissLady: Good luck
[03:09] <ChocoCid> let me know when you can run firefox with no GUI
[03:10] <MissLady> Zarephath: Thx :)
[03:10] <ChocoCid> lynx doesn't show images :P
[03:10] <sidny4> I know
[03:10] <sidny4> lynx, haven't used that in ages
[03:10] <Zarephath> MissLady: Before you go you can try this command too... lsusb
[03:10] <sidny4> since I tried to install gentoo
[03:10] <holycow> simpla, all cpus come with fan elements designed to keep them cool enough for operation even under 100% load all the time
[03:10] <Mr> lol
[03:10] <ChocoCid> in theory :\
[03:10] <holycow> simpla, so no chance unless you have shitty hardware
[03:10] <Mr> firefox with no gui? wow
[03:10] <simpla> holycow, so it doesn't matter that there is no software support?
[03:10] <ChocoCid> Mr : no, firefox with no GUI isn't possible really
[03:10] <ChocoCid> you can use lynx though
[03:11] <holycow> Mr, you can run firefox via x without gui yes
[03:11] <ChocoCid> well, ok
[03:11] <sidny4> yeah, I looked up google once in lynx
[03:11] <sidny4> I got lost
[03:11] <ChocoCid> my computer hit 75 degrees celsius the other day and auto-shutdown
[03:11] <holycow> simpla, no, what it will do is eat up your battery because it won't know HOW to shut off unnecessary hardware
[03:11] <DaveyJ> my sound vanished :( is there a way to reload the sound driver?
[03:11] <Zarephath> !moust
[03:11] <DaveyJ> or module
[03:11] <sidny4> ChocoCid, your fan blows, but not really
[03:11] <holycow> simpla, all that will happen is the fan will run all the time
[03:11] <Zarephath> !mouse
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moust - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[03:11] <xtriox> sethk, thanks, though I might never find it
[03:11] <ChocoCid> i have 3 fans on my computer actually
[03:12] <ChocoCid> the problem is it's on a desk and can't get enough airflow most likely
[03:12] <ChocoCid> (laptop)
[03:12] <sidny4> ah
[03:12] <sidny4> yeah they'll do that sometimes
[03:12] <ChocoCid> i need to get one of those cooling pads
[03:12] <simpla> holycow, oh ok.  Do you know of any links or info that I could start looking up, to figure out to give it support?
[03:12] <sidny4> I don't have one, my roomate does and he likes it
[03:12] <Mr> whos looking forward to windows vista? , not me
[03:12] <holycow> simpla, honestly, google is really your #1 resources
[03:12] <holycow> simpla, ubuntu wiki and forums are your #2 resource
[03:13] <sidny4> I'm scared of window vista, it's too stupid friendly
[03:13] <simpla> holycow, yeah have been trying that, not much luck.  Any how thanks for your help!  I will keep looking.
[03:13] <sidny4> everything is "here, I'll do that for you"
[03:13] <holycow> simpla, chance of anyone here really having enough experience with your hardware is not very high
[03:13] <holycow> simpla, no problemo
[03:13] <timalot> mr: they are already behind the times... with compiz/XGl  on X windows
[03:13] <arekmenner> Hey, can anybody give me some help troubleshooting audio? You don't need to necessarily walk me through it, I just need to know how to find what's wrong.
[03:13] <Mr> its prob just going to be more drivers already installed and anti pirate stuff
[03:14] <arekmenner> It's a bit difficult to ask people about my problems when all I could tell them is that it's not working >_<
[03:14] <sidny4> I can't wait until linux hits primetime and takes out windows at the knees
[03:14] <holycow> Mr, i've been using linux exclusively now for a good number of years
[03:14] <simpla> holycow, yeah I figured that, as there isn't much info on it regarding any linux.. :(  but thought I would try anyhow.
[03:14] <holycow> Mr, trying to use windows is very painfull,e specially when things go wrong
[03:14] <Mr> lol
[03:14] <holycow> simpla, just out of curiosity, what laptop model?
[03:14] <jtholmes> sidny4: dont hold you breath until it happens
[03:14] <Mr> I could see using linux but not 100% for my main operating system but thats why im trying to use it now
[03:14] <simpla> holycow, Acer Travelmate 5614WMSi
[03:15] <sidny4> haha, I'm not planning on it jtholmes
[03:15] <holycow> oh, eh acer has linux based laptops and i buy those a lot
[03:15] <ChocoCid> windows vista looks like a really freaking bad system
[03:15] <Mr> yeah
[03:15] <holycow> but their non linux stuff uses all sorts of weird crap
[03:15] <ChocoCid> i have XP because i didn't consider switching to linux until recently
[03:15] <sidny4> simpla, I've had ubuntu on my Acer Axpire 3003WLMi for a long time with no problem
[03:15] <Mr> I think they are already rushing it
[03:15] <ChocoCid> and quite frankly, there's one app i actually need windows to run
[03:15] <b1shop> <-- panicking out of inodes on a 3+TB array.  how do i add more without totally fsck'ing things up!?
[03:15] <holycow> acer is kind of like a garbage dump, they will scrape up any type of shit components and drop them into their laptops
[03:15] <Mr> lol
[03:15] <totall_6_7> Mr:  that is what i did, i dumped XP and went 100% linux and i love it
[03:16] <sidny4> simpla, try checking out www.linux-laptop.net
[03:16] <ChocoCid> if wine ever gets to where it can run that app, i'm dumping windows
[03:16] <simpla> holycow, funny thing is, lol, I did the dvd restore disk creation.  Then formatted etc to try linux.  Disappointed with linux, so tried to put the restore back on, and unfortunately find out that the dvd didn't burn properly :( lol.  So I guess back to linux and just bare with it
[03:16] <Mr> Im on a Gateway
[03:16] <Axe_> ChocoCid, what app
[03:16] <aftertaf> which app ChocoCid
[03:16] <ChocoCid> MWS
[03:16] <arekmenner> I've actually heart Acer laptops are really good.
[03:16] <ChocoCid> well, not mws, mwsplay
[03:16] <ChocoCid> mws actually works perfectly heh
[03:16] <Mr> Gateways are better :)
[03:16] <sidny4> Acer laptops are good
[03:16] <arekmenner> I've had a vendetta against Gateway for quite some time.
[03:16] <ChocoCid> the description on winehq for mws is actually wrong :/
[03:16] <simpla> sidny4, did it pick up the ACPI stuff?  Does all that work, like the battery, lid close etc?
[03:16] <holycow> simpla, well get a windows source cd and just reinstall ... the sticky on the bottom has all the info you need
[03:16] <sidny4> I've never had any complaints about them (ok, the battery sucks)
[03:17] <Mr> I have 5 hours
[03:17] <sidny4> in ubuntu dapper yes
[03:17] <Mr> Platnuim Edition
[03:17] <Mr> laptop 30% more battery
[03:17] <sidny4> previous versions I had to compile the DSDT
[03:17] <ChocoCid> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=5661  <-- this doesn't actually work after following his instructions
[03:17] <Mr> wow my internet sucks
[03:17] <sidny4> the newest version has taken care of that for you
[03:17] <timalot> why
[03:17] <Mr> im paying for 6mb download
[03:17] <simpla> holycow, yeah I tried that, but the serial number on the sticker won't work in it.  Comes up invalid serial.  I was reading that there is a difference between the retail Xp Pro, and the OEM version that comes preinstalled.  The serials don't work with each other.
[03:17] <Mr> and the fastest it goes it 150kbps
[03:18] <ChocoCid> you can use shipit
[03:18] <Mr> I cant believe this
[03:18] <holycow> simpla, really?
[03:18] <holycow> wow
[03:18] <Mr> im paying for 6mb download and i get 150 to 180 is the fastest i can do
[03:18] <sidny4> well Mr, what's your internet connection?
[03:18] <arekmenner> Mr: I would be dissapointed, too. hahah
[03:18] <simpla> holycow, yep
[03:18] <holycow> simpla, well thats the weirdest way to get a new user of linux but ... well ... welcome :)
[03:18] <holycow> lol
[03:18] <Mr> SBC Yahoo i keep beggin my parents to go to comcast
[03:18] <sidny4> yeah, windows WGA blows goat, that is one of the main reasons I'm dumping windows
[03:18] <holycow> which parts of ubuntu didn't you like? what can we help you with?
[03:18] <sidny4> but I keep it, for gaming and for macromedia flash
[03:19] <jtholmes> Mr: the download site does  have influence over the download speed
[03:19] <sidny4> cedega does work pretty well though
[03:19] <ChocoCid> linux has (adobe) flash actually
[03:19] <totall_6_7> mr you need a download manager that will split downloads and download all of the split files at the same time, you will find yourself hitting your max download speed then
[03:19] <simpla> holycow, lol.  Well I am using ubuntu on my desktop pc.  Havent' used windows for a little while actually.  Was hoping to do the same on the laptop
[03:19] <Mr> o im using torrent
[03:19] <jtholmes> Mr: it could be very busy
[03:19] <Mr> yeah true
[03:19] <ChocoCid> it's not the latest version though, but i think the NEXT version of flash will be for both windows and linux
[03:19] <Mr> i love my dads house
[03:19] <arekmenner> I run Linux, but I keep Windows around for little compatibility problems.
[03:19] <Mr> 400kbps and it goes faster
[03:19] <lars30> my mouse is very jumpy.. i've tried updating the DPI resoluion in xorg.conf but it hasn't made much difference. anyone have any other suggestions?
[03:19] <ChocoCid> clean the ball
[03:19] <sidny4> sweet! where did you hear that chococid?
[03:20] <lars30> heh
[03:20] <lars30> it's a laser one.
[03:20] <arekmenner> Hmm...
[03:20] <holycow> simpla, there is a laptop compatability list on the wiki, check your laptop against that.  in terms of getting acpi to work, you may need to google and learn to compile and get it to work manually
[03:20] <Mr> this site set a limit of 400kbps but the net goes faster then that
[03:20] <ChocoCid> sidny4 : not ENTIRELY sure of that, i'm pretty sure it was unofficial
[03:20] <sidny4> ic ic
[03:20] <arekmenner> lars30: I really couldn't tell you.
[03:20] <lars30> k
[03:20] <simpla> holycow, yeah its not in the list.  and yep will search for that now.
[03:20] <ChocoCid> are you on gnome or KDE?
[03:20] <arekmenner> lars30: Don't give up, though, I'm pretty bad at this stuff.
[03:20] <lars30> :)
[03:21] <timalot> lars30: check the sensitivty setting in preferences->mouse ... plus ive found making sure AGP is enabled helped me
[03:21] <lars30> ChocoCid, was that for me? i'm on Gnome.
[03:21] <Mr> Can the program bitcomet not be good for downloading stuff fast?
[03:21] <SinnerG> when I do an apt-get update && upgrade and I see for example openssl being updated : should I recompile everything that uses it ?
[03:21] <ChocoCid> k, just checking
[03:21] <holycow> Mr, wtf is bitcomet?
[03:21] <ChocoCid> uh, SinnerG , no
[03:21] <holycow> sounds like some windows spyware
[03:21] <Mr> lol
[03:21] <SinnerG> ok
[03:21] <Mr> bitorrent program
[03:21] <ChocoCid> bitcoment is a torrent program
[03:21] <totall_6_7> Mr: torrents are only as fast as the source(s) you are getting them from
[03:22] <totall_6_7> mostly slow
[03:22] <Mr> Yeah i thought so someone told me bitcomet sucked
[03:22] <holycow> ah in that case deal with it
[03:22] <holycow> a torrent is a torrent is a torrent
[03:22] <ChocoCid> torrents are typically slow
[03:22] <DaveyJ> my sound vanished :( is there a way to reload the sound driver or module?
[03:22] <ChocoCid> lars30 : mind pasting the mouse-related stuff in your xorg.conf on http://rafb.net/paste
[03:22] <ChocoCid> ?
[03:22] <Mr> im downloading at 150kbps so i have to wait a hour and a half till its done
[03:22] <aboutblank> are the commands listed in System - Prefs - Sessions - Startup programs executed as root or the user that logs in?
[03:22] <arekmenner> DaveyJ: I don't know, but I'm hacing similar problems, so if you can find an answer, please tell me.
[03:23] <ChocoCid> prefs-* are as logon user, i think; which is why you don't need to type in your pass
[03:23] <ChocoCid> could be wrong though
[03:23] <totall_6_7> Mr:  try usenet (news groups)
[03:23] <lars30> timalot: sensitivity is all the way to Low.. it's most jumpy on the "borders" of windows and widgets (if that makes sense)...
[03:23] <lars30> timalot: AGP?
[03:23] <lars30> timalot: I've a PCI Express NVidia video card.. but i'm still using the generic "nv" driver.
[03:23] <JanKok5> Hi folks. I've used Red Had and other distros in previous times. Today, decided to try ubuntu as a way of poking around on a broken Windoze 2000 box.Burned a ubunto CD and booted off it on the Windoze box. It got as far as starting up the window manager and nautilis, then I get a X Windows screen. The mouse cursor moves around, but there isn't much on the screen except an icon in the lower left, and what look like windows workspaces on the lo
[03:23] <ChocoCid> ooh, on the borders?
[03:23] <lars30> timalot: (If that's what you meant by AGP)
[03:23] <ChocoCid> there's a setting that controls it snapping to borders, i think
[03:24] <ChocoCid> lars30 : mind pasting the mouse-related stuff in your xorg.conf on http://rafb.net/paste ?
[03:24] <timalot> lars30: yeah i dont know about PCI express ... too new for me i live back in the dark ages of AGP..... but making sure u have full 2d acceleration is a good idea
[03:25] <timalot> lars30: yeah the generic driver should be ok
[03:25] <deadly_venom> My internet connection was working fine (I can browse firefox), until I deactivated it. Now, when I re-activate it, Internet browsing doesn't work any longer. Status: Idle .. How can I fix this?
[03:25] <Mr> how much ram should i have to run ubuntu
[03:26] <holycow> deadly_venom, depends where the problem actually is
[03:26] <holycow> deadly_venom, sometimes stopping and starting your eth card from terminal helps
[03:26] <lars30> ChocoCid: http://rafb.net/paste/results/AmkKdi18.html
[03:26] <holycow> so ifdwon eth0 && ifup eth0 works
[03:26] <deadly_venom> holycow how can I do tha?
[03:26] <holycow> that should at least tell you if it can acquire dhcp addy
[03:27] <holycow> then you can do ifconfig and that will tell you what interfaces are up and give you ip and other info
[03:27] <ChocoCid> lars30 : i take it you raised "resolution" there?
[03:27] <detectiveinspekt> how can you check for SMART errors?
[03:27] <deadly_venom> holycow When i click Support (eth0's properties) .. Internet Protocol (IPv4) Address: 127.0.0.1 .. Subnet: 255.0.0.0 . Network Device Type: Local Loopback .. Address: 00:00:00:00:00:00
[03:27] <holycow> once you know if your ethernet can come back up or not, you can go from there and figure out if its your network cable, your router, your isp, etc
[03:27] <lars30> ChocoCid: actually I added it, it wasn't in there at all.
[03:27] <ChocoCid> ah, ok
[03:28] <holycow> deadly_venom, well i didn't tell you to click on support :)
[03:28] <Mr> how much RAM should i have to run ubuntu
[03:28] <ChocoCid> ubuntu probably runs fine on pretty much any ram amount you have
[03:28] <ChocoCid> i mean, do they even SELL 64 meg ram cards anymore?
[03:28] <holycow> Mr, as little or as much as you want
[03:28] <deadly_venom> holycow I was just giving u some updates. :)
[03:28] <holycow> Mr, if you have 64 mb of ram then you cant use gnome desktop, you need something light like xfce
[03:29] <holycow> Mr, if you have 128 or more gnome or kde will be okay
[03:29] <timalot> lars30: grep WW /var/log/Xorg.0.log will give u any warnings from X org .... there are always warnings... but u could check for stuff relating to the mouse or video driver
[03:29] <Mr> I have 512 on the computer i want to install it on
[03:29] <ChocoCid> less than that, you want xubuntu
[03:29] <ChocoCid> 512 is fine
[03:29] <holycow> after about 512 megs ram, there is not a lot you can do to really notice a bunch of difference
[03:29] <Mr> ok
[03:29] <ChocoCid> might be a bit sluggish if you do graphics-intensive stuff, but that's true anywhere
[03:29] <Mr> i just want to make it a server
[03:29] <Mr> im not using it to edit graphics and stuff
[03:30] <ChocoCid> uh, then why not use the ubuntu server version?
[03:30] <holycow> with 512 megs you will either haveto work on VERY VERY large office or graphics documents to really notice sluggishness
[03:30] <Mr> i need gui
[03:30] <ChocoCid> the GUI on the server will slow it down
[03:30] <holycow> or very very large 3d scenes
[03:30] <Mr> I need gui
[03:30] <Mr> lol
[03:30] <holycow> outside of that, you can't do a whole lot to use up 512 at this point in time
[03:30] <Mr> im lost without it
[03:30] <deadly_venom> holycow This time, I got some ip address (which is correct) from Supprt .. BUT, it's status is still Idle. :(
[03:30] <holycow> Mr, stop effin repeating your self.  jesus.  do we care if you need a gui?
[03:30] <Mr> sorry chill out
[03:30] <freemind> lol holycow
[03:30] <holycow> deadly_venom, why are you in support?
[03:30] <Mr> literly
[03:31] <Mr> holycow
[03:31] <holycow> Mr, this isnt a 12 step program
[03:31] <holycow> get over it, no one is going to coddle you
[03:31] <freemind> I like how you americans write :)
[03:31] <Mr> darkangel? like that show with jessica alba :)
[03:31] <deadly_venom> holycow Alright then, I did sudo ifdown eth0 and sudo ifup eth0, and still status: Idle :(
[03:31] <holycow> deadly_venom, open up a terminal and try the commands i gave you :) its good practice
[03:31] <Mr> what are you talking about
[03:31] <freemind> holycow: jesus.
[03:31] <holycow> deadly_venom, ifconfig gives you what?
[03:31] <freemind> xD
[03:32] <holycow> freemind, where?
[03:32] <freemind> whatabout jesus mate
[03:32] <holycow> >_>
[03:32] <freemind> :)
[03:32] <Mr> lol
[03:32] <JanKok5> I _don't_ need a gui. I need a terminal window. ANy helep for me?
[03:32] <holycow> JanKok5, thataway -->
[03:32] <freemind> lol
[03:32] <Zarephath> Getting kinda bummed here...been reading the wikis on modifying mouse button options..I have yet to see and example of how to make my scroll wheel double click when depressed..anyone point me to information on how this is done?
[03:32] <freemind> holycow I like you
[03:32] <freemind> where are you from
[03:33] <sproingie> synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:33] <holycow> freemind, i have come to the conclusion i am the figment of your imagination
[03:33] <holycow> how about you?
[03:33] <holycow> <_<
[03:33] <Mr> lol
[03:33] <sproingie> what package do i need for libvte?
[03:33] <Mr> brb
[03:33] <freemind> be serious holycow
[03:33] <freemind> :D
[03:33] <freemind> (if you can)
[03:34] <holycow> deadly_venom, with ethernet stuff your basicallyh trying to figure out: a) does the card turn on or off b) if it can't grab a dhcp address, can i give it a static ip address and will that work
[03:34] <timalot> sproingie: go to packages.ubuntu.com .... then type the library name in the "search contents of packages" form to find out
[03:34] <holycow> c) once you give it a static ip address, can it ping it self first, then can it ping the router
[03:34] <freemind> holycow: do you believe in god?
[03:34] <loper06> is it possible to restrict ssh logins to one per user/username?
[03:34] <sproingie> hm, it says libvte4 is installed.  i'll try reinstalling it
[03:34] <holycow> d) if it can ping it self but not router then it might be the newtork cable
[03:34] <freemind> loper06: yes, see "DenyUsers and DenyGroups"
[03:35] <Blasphemous> Hey guys. I'm new to Ubuntu and Linux. =D
[03:35] <freemind> holycow: answer my question please :)
[03:35] <freemind> welcome Blasphemous
[03:35] <holycow> e) if you get a dhcp address or can see the rotuer but cant get to the internt, then the problem is either at the router or the isp
[03:35] <holycow> freemind, *cough* vancouver, and no, in that order
[03:35] <uBuNtU_FrEaK> IS THERE A WAY TO USE DUAL MONITOR ?
[03:35] <sproingie> wow, i have libvte.so.9 and not libvte.so.4.  they go crazy with the major version number or what?
[03:35] <freemind> lol :D
[03:35] <d_v> holycow Ive did what you've told me, to do.
[03:35] <holycow> uBuNtU_FrEaK, yes
[03:35] <sproingie> uBuNtU_FrEaK: stop shouting
[03:35] <darkaura> hi would I be able to get some help regarding the screen resolution of games like torcs?
[03:36] <THX-1138> uBuNtU_FrEaK: Do you have nvidia? twinview. ati xinerama
[03:36] <holycow> d_v, coolio, so where are you now? is it working?
[03:36] <uBuNtU_FrEaK> holycow: how can i do it .. i have nvidi 6800
[03:36] <holycow> does it have dual head on the card?
[03:36] <THX-1138> !dualdisplay
[03:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualdisplay - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:36] <uBuNtU_FrEaK> yes.. i use it with win
[03:36] <d_v> sproingie Do the following:
[03:36] <holycow> okay here are th einstructions:
[03:36] <holycow> !nvidia
[03:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:36] <uBuNtU_FrEaK> done
[03:36] <holycow> make sure you follow that first to get nvidia drivers setup
[03:37] <theunruled>  /leave
[03:37] <loper06> freemind: how does that help. dosen't denyuser/group just limit to the users/group? if joe1 is logged in via ssh, another joe1 can't log in
[03:37] <JanKok5> holycow, it was a serious question. X Windows comes up, but there are no icons that do anything. My kingdom for a terminal window!
[03:37] <d_v> sproingie sudo aptitude install gnome-terminal-data/dapper-updates gnome-terminal/dapper-updates libvte4/dapper-updates
[03:37] <holycow> now gimme a pastebin type site and i'll post my xorg.conf file so that you can refer to that for proper settings
[03:37] <d_v> sproingie sudo aptitude install libfreetype6/dapper-security
[03:37] <d_v> sproingie sudo aptitude install libcairo2=1.0.4-0ubuntu1
[03:37] <holycow> JanKok5, ah, alt/f2 and then type in gnome-terminal
[03:37] <freemind> loper06: then u r looking for deny/allow hosts
[03:37] <d_v> that's it
[03:37] <musti> Hello anybody got howto for getting mscorefonts?
[03:37] <holycow> JanKok5, or ctrl/alt/f1 through f7
[03:37] <THX-1138> dual monitors  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[03:38] <freemind> holycow: take my pm pls
[03:38] <holycow> actually don't use xinerama
[03:38] <holycow> use the nvidia dealie its much nicer
[03:38] <THX-1138> holycow read the linked page
[03:38] <holycow> freemind, no, gimme a pastebin url i can post to pls
[03:38] <holycow> paste it in here
[03:38] <sproingie> d_v: hm, it has unmet dependencies and wants to keep libvte4 at its current version to resolve
[03:38] <uBuNtU_FrEaK> when i installed drivers for "linux-restricted-modules" i selected 686... and i have a p4 ht 3.2 ... <---- is this right ?
[03:39] <loper06> freemind: can u be more specific?
[03:39] <freemind> holycow: its a private question, but I can paste it to pastebin if you want so
[03:39] <sproingie> eh, since it's just a keep resolution, i'll try taking it
[03:39] <freemind> loper06: can YOU be more specific? :)
[03:39] <holycow> oh that
[03:39] <holycow> i posted already
[03:39] <freemind> loper06: tell me what you want, exactly :)
[03:39] <akano1n> hi, anyone could give me a hand to set up WPA for my wireless ?
[03:39] <holycow> vancouver canada and no in that order
[03:39] <holycow> :)
[03:39] <uBuNtU_FrEaK> when i installed drivers for "linux-restricted-modules" i selected 686... and i have a p4 ht 3.2 ... <---- is this right ?
[03:39] <sproingie> ugh, it's downgrading gnome-terminal.  i think i must have gotten some backports in there
[03:39] <freemind> ok :)
[03:40] <holycow> that basically means i'm canadian, but yes i suspect i might be german somewhere down the line
[03:40] <holycow> i'm too much of an asshole
[03:40] <freemind> nice country
[03:40] <holycow> hehe :)
[03:40] <jtholmes> !wireless > ankano1n
[03:40] <freemind> my aunt lives in toronto
[03:40] <sproingie> uBuNtU_FrEaK: yes, that's what you want
[03:40] <uBuNtU_FrEaK> ty
[03:40] <akano1n> jtholmes what ?
[03:40] <THX-1138> musti: sourceforge - though it must be in the repositories. - "restricted" catagory?
[03:40] <freemind> how old r u holycow
[03:40] <deadly_venom> holycow yup eth0 works, it does take it's ip from the dhcp server, and I tried static IP doesn't work for me too :(
[03:40] <loper06> freemind: in sshd. if user joe1 logs in and another user tries to log in as joe1, they can't b/c joe1 is already logged in.
[03:40] <holycow> freemind, technically, as old as the universe
[03:41] <freemind> like everyone..
[03:41] <holycow> deadly_venom, aha, okay well can you access your routers web interface maybe, if that is available to you?
[03:41] <freemind> but thats the physically meaning
[03:41] <freemind> loper06: in that case, read the ssl manual, I dont know :(
[03:41] <freemind> *ssh
[03:42] <Lilandra> Hi
[03:43] <sproingie> deadly_venom: thanks, it went into a downgrade frenzy for a while, but it works now :)
[03:43] <JanKok5> holycow, ctl/alt/f2 thru f8 bring up various text windows, but there appear to be no shells listening to them. Characters are echoed in some of them, but there is no ">" prompt, ctl-C does nothing, etc.
[03:44] <holycow> JanKok5, those are terminals
[03:44] <holycow> log in and shell away
[03:44] <holycow> the same as gnome terminal
[03:44] <darkaura> are the drivers off of the Nvidia website better than the Ubuntu 6.06 drivers?
[03:44] <sethk> JanKok5, do you have any  getty   processes running?
[03:44] <holycow> JanKok5, it sounds almost like your monitor is busted
[03:44] <sethk> JanKok5, you should have one   /sbin/getty   process for each virtual console
[03:45] <holycow> your displaying everything at a set resolution but your moni is only showing the top left of the resolution windows
[03:45] <JanKok5> sethk, I wouldn't know, because I can't get to a shell :-) But I but probably not.
[03:45] <holycow> have you tried maybe fiddling with your monitor settings? i'm guessing here, but if you cannot see the login section its basically offscreen
[03:45] <sethk> JanKok5, if the machine is on a network and configured for it, you could ssh into it from another box
[03:45] <holycow> what sethk said
[03:47] <sethk> JanKok5, by default there are six virtual consoles and X is on control-alt-7.  did you say you have displays on control-alt-f8, f9, and f10 also?
[03:47] <deadly_venom> holycow yup, i can login into my router
[03:47] <deadly_venom> homepage
[03:47] <darkaura> holycow are the Linux Drivers supllied by Nvidia beter than the Drivers supplied buy ubuntu?
[03:47] <holycow> deadly_venom, bingo, everything then works
[03:48] <holycow> darkaura, actually they are the same binary drivers
[03:48] <deadly_venom> holycow I tried www.google.com , it doesn't work :( nor www.cnn.com nor ubuntuforums.org :(
[03:48] <deadly_venom> never mind
[03:48] <deadly_venom> it works now
[03:48] <deadly_venom> lol .. sorry
[03:48] <JanKok5> holycow, I think c-a-f8 was some sort of log, nothing on f9 or f10.
[03:48] <holycow> darkaura, by default all linux distros have a free driver called nv which only has 2d acceleration
[03:48] <deadly_venom> holycow what seemed to be the problem?
[03:49] <holycow> darkaura, but ubuntu does provide nvidias drivers PROPERLY PACKAGED
[03:49] <holycow> darkaura, i strongly urge you to NEVER EVER use the nvidia installers, they are total generic crap
[03:49] <holycow> same drivers, properly packaged in other words
[03:49] <meatface> howdy
[03:49] <d_venom> holycow could you please tell me, what semmed to be the problem?
[03:49] <freemind> holycow: not correct.
[03:50] <holycow> deadly_venom, your network card simply wasn't picking up an ip address and gateway info via dhcp for some reason and you needed to do it manually
[03:50] <Axe_> there's a nice tutorial somewhere that details specifically how to setup samba shares, can someone make the bot tell me about it
[03:50] <holycow> JanKok5, not logs, those are terminals
[03:50] <freemind> for example: when you want to install XGL, nvidia-beta-driver is REQUIRED
[03:50] <Dr_willis> !samba
[03:50] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:50] <Axe_> ahh thank you
[03:50] <holycow> JanKok5, you just cannot see the bottom of the terminal for some reason where your logon lines are
[03:50] <holycow> freemind, technically one shouldn't be installing crap like xgl :) lol
[03:51] <holycow> freemind, but that is correct, right
[03:51] <freemind> tell them too ;)
[03:51] <d_venom> holycow by manually you mean " sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0 " right?
[03:51] <JanKok5> holeycow, its a LCD monitor and seems to be working ok. I suspect there are no gettys, or at least they cant hear the keyboard. Also, seems strange that the X window should be nearly empty except for a top and bottom white bar. Is that normal?
[03:51] <holycow> d_venom, yes
[03:51] <freemind> holycow: how old are you by the way ;-)
[03:51] <holycow> JanKok5, say what? indeed no
[03:52] <sethk> freemind, add the line     vga=ask     to your kernel command line in /boot/grub/menu.lst, and choose the 80x25 resolution.  that should at least get your consoles.
[03:52] <holycow> freemind, i already answered that :)
[03:52] <d_venom> holycow thank you.
[03:52] <Mr> owned
[03:52] <sethk> freemind, sorry, wrong nick
[03:52] <Mr> back everybody
[03:52] <holycow> no worries
[03:52] <sethk> JanKok5,  add the line     vga=ask     to your kernel command line in /boot/grub/menu.lst, and choose the 80x25 resolution.  that should at least get your consoles.
[03:52] <meatface> I am having an issue with the gui freezing at boot. Everything is good until I login. After the login screen the music is playing until the deskto is about half loaded. Then the music cuts and the desktop stops loading. I can move the cursor but cannot click anything along the top panel. If I disable sound in user privliges then everything boots fine. Anybody have any ideas, this is making me crazy.
[03:52] <freemind> holycow ;))))) yea, you did indeed
[03:52] <sidvicius> anybody use apace2 with multiples ssl certificates?
[03:52] <HedgeMage> Does one have to restart any processes to make changes to /etc/hosts take effect?
[03:52] <sethk> meatface, IRQ sharing bug, I'd bet
[03:52] <Mr> apache2?
[03:52] <freemind> HedgeMage: no
[03:53] <HedgeMage> freemind: thanks, didn't think so, but I had to check.
[03:53] <sethk> meatface, try toggling the PnP setting in the BIOS setup.  if it is on, turn it off, and if it is off, turn it on.
[03:53] <deadly_venom> holycow:  THanks again :D
[03:53] <sethk> meatface, that usually changes the assignments of IRQs, and I've seen that fix problems of this sort.
[03:53] <holycow> meatface, my first instinct is to try a reinstall ... something is borked and i've never seen that  before.  i'm thinking something is wrong with gnome libraries my self
[03:53] <holycow> deadly_venom, any time
[03:53] <freemind> HedgeMage: needs a moment to work
[03:53] <sethk> meatface, it only works in about, oh, maybe one out of five times, but it's worth a try.
[03:53] <sidvicius> apache2 + mod_ssl
[03:53] <freemind> HedgeMage: about 10-60s
[03:53] <meatface> sethk, I may sound a little stupid here but what is PnP
[03:53] <HedgeMage> freemind: thanks, got it already :D
[03:53] <sethk> meatface, oh, sorry, plug and play
[03:54] <freemind> HedgeMage: i guess its reloaded every minute
[03:54] <sethk> meatface, there is usually a bios setup option that says "plug and play operating system"
[03:54] <freemind> HedgeMage: np :)
[03:54] <deadly_venom> Now, all I need is to make my wireless work (It's activated and runninng) but i can't browse! ..
[03:54] <meatface> Duh! sorry that was pretty thick of me
[03:54] <JanKok5> Pnp= plug and PRAY
[03:54] <freemind> meatface, what about you nick? nick
[03:54] <meatface> I will definitely give that a try, thanks for the suggestion
[03:54] <holycow> meatface, great nick
[03:54] <holycow> hehe
[03:54] <freemind> holycow: please answer my question
[03:55] <meatface> freemind, what about it?
[03:55] <holycow> freemind, stop being so dutch :)
[03:55] <freemind> meatface, it rawks
[03:55] <meatface> thanks
[03:55] <holycow> i'm 30 according to some humans, but i beg to differ
[03:55] <freemind> what does dutch mean?
[03:55] <holycow> okay okay deutch
[03:55] <freemind> lol
[03:55] <Pierre> dutch are worst
[03:55] <Pierre> :)
[03:55] <holycow> oh you euro
[03:56] <holycow> i looooove amsterdam :)
[03:56] <freemind> me 2
[03:56] <holycow> dutch girlies are really lovelie
[03:56] <freemind> a spliff a day....?
[03:56] <freemind> ...keeps doctors away
[03:56] <freemind> xD
[03:56] <holycow> heh
[03:56] <meatface> I was on the internet when I first got a computer a few years back on rotten.com, and saw a picture of this guy that had his face all mangled in an accident. Me and my buddies named him meatface and that has been my handle eversince.
[03:56] <JanKok5> sethk, I'm booting off a live CD. Should I put that in the boot options (f6 on the initial screen) or in the VGA selection (f5)... ah maybe that?
[03:57] <harisund> Is it possible to create a fat32 file system within Linux? Do I need some particular switches in the mkfs command?
[03:57] <holycow> meatface, heh neat
[03:57] <freemind> lol meatface
[03:57] <freemind> u r crazy
[03:57] <freemind> :D
[03:57] <holycow> harisund, if you do with via terminal yes, but we have lotsa guis for that
[03:57] <holycow> harisund, try gparted
[03:57] <meatface> anyway, I am out of here, I need to reboot to try sethk's suggestion. Thanks for the hospitality!
[03:57] <harisund> holycow, sorry ... I don't have GUI access for it ...
[03:57] <holycow> you can even create an ntfs parition but i wouldn't recommend it
[03:57] <harisund> This is a hard disk connected to a box I remote into ..
[03:58] <amonkey> what's the best graphical (s)ftp client for gnome (or  wtv)?
[03:58] <sethk> harisund, you can use mkdosfs, or mkfs.vfat (which is the same thing) but as holycow said it's best to use windows programs to create windows file systems
[03:59] <holycow> oh there we go
[03:59] <v3l0ct> amonkey: that's all a matter of taste
[03:59] <holycow> i was lookin for tha, right what he said
[03:59] <harisund> mkdosfs creates fat32 partitions? oh ... didn't realize.. thanks ... (sethk and holycow) ...
[03:59] <freemind> =)
[03:59] <holycow> i would use mkfs.vfat my self
[03:59] <amonkey> v3l0ct, i know there will be different opinions, but some suggestions are alwasy nice.
[04:00] <raiXer> i can't seem to change resolution with xorg 7.1
[04:00] <raiXer> it just goes back to 800x600
[04:00] <v3l0ct> amonkey: if you want suggestions then you should specify it.  I like gftp, works fine.
[04:01] <holycow> raiXer, your on edgy aren't you?
[04:01] <holycow> >_>
[04:01] <holycow> #ubuntu+1
[04:01] <holycow> however
[04:01] <raiXer> uhm yes
[04:01] <deadly_venom> When  i typed -> lspci | grep Airgo .. I get the following:
[04:01] <deadly_venom> 0000:03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Airgo Networks Inc: Unknown device 0001 (rev 01)
[04:01] <deadly_venom> Do I have to worry? cause I see my pcmcia card light's on. And I can Go to my wireless connection properties
[04:01] <holycow> make sure you have the correct horizontal and  vertical refresh rates in your xorg.conf file for your monitor, restart gdm and log back in.  you will get all resolution options for your monitor then
[04:01] <sidvicius> lspci -v
[04:02] <deadly_venom> sidvicius:  was that for me?
[04:05] <holycow> lol
[04:05] <meatface> hey
[04:05] <holycow> we have people creating some neat nicks in here
[04:06] <freemind> lol
[04:06] <freemind> holycow: you're making me laugh all the time
[04:06] <freemind> very funny guy
[04:06] <PacketScan> gotta be original :p
[04:06] <meatface> sethk, I gave it a shot, but my laptop is compaq and has a very limited bios. Sucks.
[04:06] <holycow> freemind, i guess in kinda like david hasselhof
[04:06] <holycow> i'm hated everywhere but worshipped in germany
[04:06] <freemind> xD!!
[04:06] <holycow> >_>
[04:07] <holycow> *giggle*
[04:07] <PacketScan> meatface, have you updated to latest bios?
[04:07] <freemind> worshipped?
[04:07] <freemind> why
[04:07] <meatface> Something else that I thought of is that if I boot in recovery mode it boots fine with sound enabled.
[04:07] <harisund> Is the SMP kernel what I need for all of 1. Multiple cores, 2. Multiple processors 3. Hyperthreading?
[04:07] <holycow> freemind, isn't hasselhoff a big deal over there?
[04:07] <freemind> harisund: 1.
[04:07] <freemind> holycow: wtf are you talkin' about?
[04:07] <freemind> :)=
[04:07] <meatface> PacketScan, no I have not updated bios, and that is probably a great idea
[04:07] <freemind> you mean this baywatch guy?
[04:07] <harisund> freemind, what about for a machine with hyperthreading and multiple processors?
[04:08] <freemind> what about him
[04:08] <holycow> freemind, you may not want to admit it but you know its true
[04:08] <holycow> lol !
[04:08] <freemind> LOL
[04:08] <freemind> youzr funny man
[04:08] <freemind> LOL
[04:08] <freemind> so, what abouth im?
[04:08] <freemind> *him
[04:08] <freemind> ;))
[04:08] <freemind> you like him?
[04:08] <holycow> wasn't he like a pop star in germany?
[04:08] <freemind> ;))
[04:09] <freemind> no, but in america i think
[04:09] <holycow> lol not at all
[04:09] <freemind> he is a STAR
[04:09] <holycow> here is the butt of all jokes
[04:09] <freemind> hollywood star -> *
[04:09] <avagant> Ok guys, tell me there's a way to get out of this.
[04:09] <freemind> avagant: pants off
[04:09] <avagant> freemind: Wha?
[04:09] <holycow> hehehe
[04:09] <freemind> j/k
[04:09] <holycow> well technically ...
[04:10] <v3l0ct> lol, he's crap in America.  He was some kind of singer or something in Germany
[04:10] <freemind> lolol really?
[04:10] <THX-1138> And is Chuck Norris popular there? (it's ridiculous but, hey it's the 'Net)
[04:10] <avagant> I was trying to move a icon file from the desktop to the icon file and I think I accidently moved my whole entire desktop to the icon folder, what do I do?
[04:10] <freemind> I will put faulty tomatoes at him when I see him
[04:10] <Shadow_mil> Chuck Norris pwns all!
[04:10] <freemind> xD!!
[04:11] <freemind> greatest lamer ever
[04:11] <freemind> in this case, I prefer hasselhoff
[04:11] <holycow> well chucknorris is a bible thumper
[04:11] <avagant> I'd really like some help with this, because I'm seriously going to cry. It's been the worst week of my life with this linux stuff.
[04:12] <holycow> proof --> http://youtube.com/watch?v=tlaWbCbZhAA
[04:12] <freemind> avagant: dont cry :(
[04:12] <freemind> avagant: tell us the problem again in one sentence
[04:12] <darkaura> holycow can you help me in private chat for a minut?
[04:12] <holycow> avagant, you can just copy it back
[04:13] <THX-1138> avagant - We are using linux and you can also, - What can we help with?
[04:13] <holycow> darkaura, no, just ask here
[04:13] <avagant> I was trying to move my icons from my desktop to the icon file.
[04:13] <avagant> And I accidently moved the whole entire Desktop folder I think.
[04:13] <darkaura> okay I followed this guide to install the drivers you get off of the site well mostly all of it http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Breezy
[04:13] <avagant> I moved it back, but I'm not sure if it's screwed up now.
[04:13] <avagant> Cause my hd isn't showing up in ls
[04:14] <darkaura> I used method 2
[04:14] <avagant> My second hd isn't showing up.
[04:14] <holycow> avagant, it really doesn't matter anyway.  when you log back in it will just be recreated
[04:14] <avagant> Are you sure?
[04:14] <darkaura> and I was wondering how to uninstall the drivers I got off the site and re-install the original drivers
[04:14] <holycow> all that is in your desktop folder would be any files you have on your desktop
[04:14] <avagant> I really hope so.
[04:14] <freemind> avagant: check dmesg for kernel detect of devices
[04:15] <holycow> avagant, so you can create the Desktop folder manually if you like, then serach for the missing stuff and put it back later
[04:15] <holycow> avagant, yeah its no big deal really
[04:15] <holycow> avagant, your desktop folder wont have anything to do with your hd actually
[04:15] <freemind> holycow: what about madonna? do you like her?
[04:15] <avagant> No my hd is mounted, but i put it in /media/hdb1 and it showed up on the desktop, and now it's not listing on the desktop.
[04:15] <baxter_kylie> Hello everyone. Can anyone assist me in mounting a raid partition (mdadm)? Everytime I try to mount /dev/md0 I get a 'Function not implemented' error message.
[04:15] <holycow> avagant, your hd should should up under places anyway
[04:15] <ChocoCid> can someone explain to me how Crossover Linux can use GPL software without being released under the GPL?
[04:15] <holycow> your second hd anyway
[04:16] <freemind> baxter_kylie: check your kernel for raid support
[04:16] <avagant> Well I hope it's alright :(
[04:16] <holycow> freemind, *ew*
[04:16] <darkaura> holycow did you get that?
[04:16] <HateMS> I have an Ubuntu partition that Windows messed up when it was installed and need to fix GRUB can someone plzzzz help
[04:16] <holycow> darkaura, scrolling
[04:16] <HateMS> !grup
[04:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:16] <HateMS> !grub
[04:16] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:16] <freemind> baxter_kylie: use "modprobe raid{number}"
[04:16] <holycow> HateMS, use the live cd to reinstall grub.  thats all
[04:16] <HateMS> holycow, i'm in the live CD but can't get it to work
[04:17] <freemind> I prefer LILO
[04:17] <freemind> oldschool
[04:17] <HateMS> I really don't care how, I just wanna be able to get to my UB
[04:17] <freemind> like you should also do, holycow
[04:17] <darkaura> or is my only way to fix it is to re-install Ubunu
[04:17] <holycow> freemind, oh i dun fink so
[04:17] <holycow> lol
[04:17] <FaLc[ON] 2> hi all
[04:18] <holycow> gimme grub or gimme death
[04:18] <freemind> ok ;P
[04:18] <freemind> can grub boot a kernel only one time?
[04:18] <FaLc[ON] 2> sorry guy can you help me with a little problem?
[04:18] <freemind> like for remote handling, if you get kernel panic
[04:18] <baxter_kylie> freemind: Just did the modprobe. Same error.
[04:18] <freemind> lilo can.
[04:18] <THX-1138> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11162/   winmac_fstab.sh will find and mount available partitions
[04:18] <ChocoCid> how do these two parts of the crossover linux license actually make sense together?
[04:18] <ChocoCid> i thought if you used GPL stuff, you had to release your code under the GPL?
[04:18] <ChocoCid> http://rafb.net/paste/results/XYjMJU50.html
[04:18] <baxter_kylie> Using the edgy beta 'generic' A64 kernel.
[04:18] <JanKok5> sethk, I put vga=ask at the end of the boot options line and it did ask... But still seem to have no gettys running. Here's something, ahem, "interesting": on the f2 console, there are some messages saying "Buffer I/O error on device hdc..." which is probably the CD drive I'm trying to run off of. What would cause that??
[04:18] <freemind> baxter_kylie: then you are missing the raid module you need :) recompile your kernel with the needed module(s)
[04:18] <HateMS> how do I figure out my harddisk boot partition numbers
[04:18] <holycow> darkaura, oh just search your system for anything with nvidia in it and delete it
[04:19] <holycow> darkaura, installation only copies files to the right places
[04:19] <holycow> darkaura, then do dpkg-reconfigure and select the nv driver there and restart x
[04:19] <freemind> baxter_kylie: google for apt-get kernel-source + compile method
[04:19] <holycow> once you are done that install the official stuff
[04:19] <holycow> !nvidia
[04:19] <ChocoCid> (is this the wrong place to ask about GPL stuff?)
[04:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:19] <THX-1138> avagant - take a look at the link above ^^^^^^^^^^
[04:19] <holycow> thats pretty much it
[04:19] <sethk> JanKok5, could be a lot of things.  trying to access using dma, when the device can't do dma properly comes to mind
[04:19] <ChocoCid> (if this is, where do i ask about GPL stuff?)
[04:19] <freemind> !cow
[04:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cow - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:19] <mkyb14> Comptuer question to anyone that might know... reinstalling on a dell that's not mine... upon plugging everything in it starts up for about 3 seconds and then shuts off... nothing on the LCD and no beeps... any clues?
[04:19] <freemind> !milk
[04:19] <sethk> JanKok5, see if there is a setting in the bios to force it to use IO mode (I think it will say PIO)
[04:19] <raiXer> channel #suse
[04:19] <darkaura> holycow I had to uninstall all the restricted drivers in order to get the nvidia ones to work
[04:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about milk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <baxter_kylie> freemind: oh ugh... that's no fun. So the egdy generic a64 doesn't have raid0 in it.
[04:20] <avagant> No my drive is fine.
[04:20] <freemind> baxter_kylie: seems so :(
[04:20] <HateMS> I THINK my root is sda2, but how do I check
[04:20] <baxter_kylie> freemind: Thanks just the same.
[04:20] <deadly_venom> What do I have to replace with $conffile ?
[04:20] <holycow> HateMS, i don't know the instructions to reinstalling grub from live cd, the instrucdtions are actually all over google as its a common thing
[04:20] <freemind> np baxter_kylie
[04:20] <THX-1138> freemind - aptitude ? aptitude has no super COW powers?
[04:20] <ChocoCid> !super grub disc
[04:20] <ubotu> super: Execute commands setuid root. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.26.1-1 (dapper), package size 122 kB, installed size 852 kB
[04:20] <ChocoCid> er
[04:20] <holycow> HateMS, google up some instructions should be something there usefull
[04:20] <ChocoCid> !grubdisk
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grubdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <ChocoCid> bleh
[04:20] <HateMS> holycow, I found some, its "sudo grub" in terminal
[04:20] <ChocoCid> hold on, i'll do it manually
[04:20] <freemind> THX-1138: never used it, is it so good?
[04:20] <holycow> HateMS, there ya go
[04:20] <ChocoCid> http://adrian15.raulete.net/grub/
[04:21] <Jordan> has anyone had any experience with ATI's All in Wonder 2006 and ubuntu?
[04:21] <HateMS> chococid, yeah I made the super grub disc and was banking on that working but it didnt and now i'm ... censored word
[04:21] <freemind> holycow: what time is it over there
[04:21] <ChocoCid> er
[04:21] <ChocoCid> try it again?
[04:21] <deadly_venom> holycow: just curious, what should I replace with $conffile ?
[04:21] <holycow> 7:21 pm and 35 seconds
[04:21] <THX-1138> freemind If it doesn't work you'll get double you money back. - seriously i use it all the time.
[04:21] <HateMS> holycow, but I need to find the harddisk/boot partiton numbers for my ubuntu partition, i'm not sure what they are
[04:21] <holycow> deadly_venom, $conffile is where regarding what and how?
[04:22] <ChocoCid> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:22] <ChocoCid> there you go
[04:22] <holycow> hatems fdisk -l
[04:22] <holycow> ah thanks ChocoCid
[04:22] <freemind> THX-1138: THX! :-) I'll try it
[04:22] <freemind> THX-1138: can do things like kernel recompile automated?
[04:22] <ChocoCid> i have a shortcut made in swiftfox for ubuntu wiki :P
[04:22] <ChocoCid> "u searchterm"
[04:22] <ChocoCid> :)
[04:22] <deadly_venom> holycow: Wireless ------------ sudo cat $conffile | sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' > $conffile
[04:22] <Axe_> what do I download for decoding mp3s
[04:23] <holycow> deadly_venom, oh what are you doing exactly? i have never needed to do that
[04:23] <freemind> deadly_venom: $conf.. means the path to file, or you export the variable first with a value
[04:23] <ChocoCid> !restrictedformats > Axe_
[04:23] <holycow> mind you i buy wireless cards known to work and just plug them in and turn them on
[04:23] <holycow> lol, that sounds like a bad girlfriend joke
[04:23] <holycow> >_>
[04:23] <THX-1138> freemind - why work so hard ubuntu repositories provide a kernel for alsmost any occasion and at least many tastes "vanilla" is my favorite flavor.
[04:23] <deadly_venom> holycow: I need ndiswrapper for this pcmcia card, hehe.
[04:23] <holycow> oh IF ONLY it was THAT EASY
[04:23] <holycow> lol
[04:23] <SkramX> how do i get banshee to work?
[04:23] <deadly_venom> freemind:  path to my .inf file ?
[04:24] <SkramX> hmm
[04:24] <freemind> deadly_venom: thats holycow's turn..
[04:24] <holycow> deadly_venom, oh i won't be able to help you with that bro, i never use ndiswrapper, sorry.  maybe someone else knows
[04:24] <freemind> there he goes ;)
[04:24] <meatface> i have used ndiswrapper in the past
[04:24] <deadly_venom> holycow:  thanks for the help, thou - really appreciate it!
[04:24] <darkaura> brb in about 20 min going to re install ubuntu
[04:24] <deadly_venom> freemind:  anything you got to say ?
[04:24] <holycow> no probs
[04:24] <freemind> THX-1138: using debian?
[04:25] <holycow> darkaura, thats actually not a bad idea
[04:25] <meatface> hget
[04:25] <freemind> deadly_venom: just that you seem to be using an unset variable named $conffile
[04:25] <holycow> darkaura, it costs nothing and burning cds is cheap, its an easy way out
[04:25] <SkramX> at setup i forgot to put in a resolution which I want to use now... how do I add it?
[04:25] <THX-1138> holycow - my card works, i reboot and the reboot stops at "configuring network devices" - any suggestions?  (RaLink 2500 native driver)
[04:25] <Tokenbad> anyone know what this means?  Can't locate Xmms/Remote.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.7 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at (eval 3) line 1.
[04:25] <Tokenbad>  BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 3) line 1.
[04:25] <freemind> SkramX: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:25] <freemind> SkramX: or better: dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:26] <darkaura> I got the cds shipped to me for free, so its no problems and with reinstall I can easally fix my problems
[04:26] <THX-1138> freemind - Ubuntu repos have most everything. if it's popular and GNU it's there.
[04:26] <deadly_venom> freemind:  I figured, so, i was wondering if i have to substitute it with the path to my .inf files (wireless .inf file)
[04:26] <freemind> deadly_venom: just do "export conffile=/path/to"
[04:26] <holycow> THX-1138, it usually means it cannot get a dhcp address you can press crtl / c to kill that during boot.  try static ip and check on your dhcp server
[04:26] <freemind> after it rerun your line
[04:27] <HateMS> holycow, sry back
[04:27] <freemind> THX-1138: i got same device, such problems with native driver, try turning off dhcp
[04:27] <HateMS> holycow, what do I run?
[04:28] <holycow> HateMS, i completely forgot wher eyou were
[04:28] <holycow> or who you were
[04:28] <holycow> who are you again?
[04:28] <holycow> >_>
[04:28] <HateMS> GRUB guy holycow
[04:28] <holycow> oh heh
[04:28] <THX-1138> holycow - i could hug you and plant a wet kiss on your forehead. - had to reinstall. didn't know the secret code. - (i won't kiss you though likely make my wife jealous.)
[04:28] <holycow> ah like i said, i never had to reinstall grub ... someone posted a great link to how to do it tho
[04:28] <HateMS> !grub
[04:28] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:28] <holycow> THX-1138, oh thank the effin gods !
[04:29] <THX-1138> 'roflmao
[04:29] <shwag> I installed Dapper on my desktop. I have a ATI Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE] . Which video driver should I install. The default seems a bit buggy.
[04:29] <freemind> lol THX-1138
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[04:29] <HateMS> holycow, that was the one I had, i don't know the partition numbers or whatever
[04:29] <holycow> thank to chocodude
[04:29] <sureshot> THX-1138 mine took me out for fahitas tonight mmmmmmm
[04:29] <holycow> oh
[04:29] <holycow> fdisk -l
[04:29] <wickedpuppy> HateMS, sudo fdisk -l
[04:29] <freemind> "plant a wet kiss on your forehead" <- lovely
[04:29] <Tokenbad> anyone know what this means?  Can't locate Xmms/Remote.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.7 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at (eval 3) line 1.
[04:29] <deadly_venom> rebooting ... thank freemind
[04:30] <holycow> Tokenbad, it basically means xmms remote is borked and frankly that has never worked for me
[04:30] <freemind> Tokenbad: let me think, cant locate means... dunno!
[04:30] <THX-1138> sureshot - can you fax me a tortilla and some refired beans? - tuna casserole here;.
[04:30] <holycow> Tokenbad, if i were you i would just forget xmms remote
[04:30] <holycow> infact
[04:30] <freemind> nevermind
[04:30] <holycow> i would forget xmms entirely, there are much better players out there
[04:30] <Tokenbad> well trying to get a script in xchat to post the music playing to channel
[04:30] <sureshot> THX-1138 if there were anything left over hehehe we even had the double order
[04:30] <w30> Tokenbad, are you compiling something?
[04:30] <freemind> holycow: please answer my question: what time is it over there right now?
[04:30] <HateMS> I had seen the recovering ubuntu after windows link, but what does it mean "When UB splash comes up with boot: prompt, type in rescue"
[04:31] <Tokenbad> w30, no..just trying to load a perl script in xchat
[04:31] <holycow> Tokenbad, thats hardly anything we can help with :)  bug the person that wrote the scritpy, hehe
[04:31] <holycow> freemind, your like stuck in some mirror universe
[04:31] <ChocoCid> #xchat
[04:31] <Tokenbad> holycow, I was just wondering if it was something I needed to load to get it to work
[04:31] <holycow> you aske a question, i answer it, thenyou ask it again
[04:31] <holycow> i am starting to suspect that you are your own doppleganger
[04:31] <holycow> <_<
[04:31] <freemind> holycow: i love you too
[04:31] <MissLady> I installed Ubuntu on my HDD...I need help to config my USBcableModem... it worked fine and automatically with live-cd. So i did dmesg live-cd vs installation to compare what was different.I saw different things between both modes. Can anyone would help me please ?
[04:31] <wickedpuppy> freemind, i remember a ctcp to get the time .. but i forgot
[04:32] <wickedpuppy> it was in mirc
[04:32] <wickedpuppy> oh well
[04:32] <holycow> *whew*
[04:32] <freemind> wickedpuppy: thx for hint, forgot
[04:32] <holycow> well you know, gotta keep an eye out
[04:32] <freemind> but holycows client isnt responding
[04:32] <holycow> Tokenbad, yeah hard to help with custom stuff like that
[04:32] <Tokenbad> its /ctcp nick time
[04:32] <Tokenbad> to get time
[04:32] <holycow> freemind, 7:32 and 38 seconds
[04:32] <freemind> i know
[04:32] <freemind> oh
[04:33] <holycow> last time you asked was at 7:23 and 46 seconds
[04:33] <freemind> LOL
[04:33] <holycow> when is the next time you are going to ask?
[04:33] <freemind> stop kidding me dude
[04:33] <freemind> =)
[04:33] <freemind> wickedpuppy: where r u from?
[04:33] <sureshot> holycow sounds like a valcun
[04:33] <freemind> 4:33 am here
[04:33] <wickedpuppy> whois me and you will know
[04:33] <sureshot> or is it an on the end
[04:33] <GoldKeeper> i beleive i asked about this before but does ubuntu support xgl or aixgl ?
[04:33] <HateMS> murrr
[04:34] <freemind> dunno what .sg is
[04:34] <freemind> sarajewo?
[04:34] <Crippy-Boy> GoldKeeper, yes
[04:34] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:34] <GoldKeeper> Crippy-Boy:  have you installed it before ?
[04:34] <freemind> j/k puppy
[04:34] <sureshot> GoldKeper both according to what vid card
[04:34] <Crippy-Boy> GoldKeeper, Nope, my laptop is a toaster, but i know you can
[04:34] <freemind> wickedpuppy: what is it?
[04:34] <wickedpuppy> freemind, using xchat ? right click on my nick and see my country
[04:34] <sureshot> !xgl
[04:34] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:34] <holycow> GoldKeeper, there is no such thing in linux as 'DOES LINUX SUPPORT X'
[04:35] <holycow> GoldKeeper, bascially if its written to run on linux its supported
[04:35] <fick> how do i check what ver of ndiswrapper i have, my current version seems to be incompatible with my kernel
[04:35] <HateMS> Is it possible to not have a "/boot"
[04:35] <wickedpuppy> HateMS, yes
[04:35] <holycow> GoldKeeper, however, aiglx and xgl will both work on any linux, however xgl is hackery and shouldn't be used, while aiglx isn't exactly primetime ready
[04:35] <fick> btw i am currently running ubuntu in windows in vmware using recovery mode (so i have access to the net)
[04:36] <holycow> fick, apt-cache show ndiswrapperpackagename
[04:36] <fluxinator> Is there a reason why I have a /dev/shm?
[04:36] <THX-1138> sureshot - xgl/compiz/beryl is *ALPHA* and painful to set up. - problems - substitute xcompmgr and transset. for transparency
[04:37] <Crippy-Boy> Looks damned sexy though :P
[04:37] <THX-1138> "" AIGLX
[04:37] <holycow> besides xgl is a dead end, no vid card manufacturer will ever support it and it wants to replace window managers like gnomes metacity
[04:37] <holycow> which i can guarantee gnome people are not happy about
[04:37] <holycow> aiglx is the future, but quite a while in the future
[04:38] <holycow> and i'm quite certain none of the other de projects thing glx wanting to replace their own window managers of choice
[04:38] <fluxinator> is there a reason why I have a /dev/shm
[04:38] <holycow> is a good thing at all
[04:38] <Crippy-Boy> id check em out IF my laptop wasnt a toaster and i could be bothered setting it up with an ATI card on my desktop
[04:38] <sureshot> THX-1138 xgl and beryl works find here .. but i will look into xcompmgr later lol
[04:38] <yarddog> i appreciate the standard fglrx
[04:38] <yarddog> dual head
[04:38] <yarddog> nothing better imho
[04:38] <freemind> wickedpuppy: dont laugh: using mirc in winxp, emulation with vmware
[04:39] <holycow> the only think i like about 3d accelerated desktops is that a) it makes sense given the technology and b) it makes even open office seem 'snappy' especially as it loads
[04:39] <Crippy-Boy> i wish it was possible to boycott hardware manufacturers
[04:39] <THX-1138> xcompmgr includes transparency - spinning cubes and wiggly windows got old.
[04:39] <intangir> hey people
[04:39] <freemind> hey intangir
[04:39] <freemind> how are you
[04:39] <intangir> how do i install reiserFS support on ubuntu?
[04:39] <holycow> Crippy-Boy, it is, just buy stuff that is supported
[04:39] <freemind> intangir: modprobe reiserfs
[04:39] <fick> make: command not found ??????
[04:39] <HateMS> does anyone know much about GRUB, the guides aren't working
[04:39] <Crippy-Boy> holycow, its not just as easy as that
[04:39] <holycow> as freemind said, you either load the module manually or you plug in your reiser drive and the module gets loaded automatically
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> fick, get build-essential
[04:40] <holycow> Crippy-Boy, maybe, it is for me
[04:40] <axel> !GRUB
[04:40] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> btw what are you compiling fick ?
[04:40] <oxygene_> fick: apt-get install build-essential
[04:40] <fick> thanx oxygene
[04:40] <Crippy-Boy> for you yeah, bit i game quite a bit, so there goes boycotting any decent vid card manufacturer
[04:41] <intangir> still says the partition type is unknown
[04:41] <holycow> Crippy-Boy, well freedome requires sacrifices
[04:41] <intangir> freemind: does it work with really old reisers?
[04:41] <holycow> Crippy-Boy, however there is more than one way to deal with it
[04:41] <Crippy-Boy> lol, not from me, im not about to give up half the reasons i own a pc just so said pc can be free.
[04:41] <wickedpuppy> holycow, are you a perl coder ?
[04:41] <HateMS> ok this manual is a joke!!!
[04:41] <holycow> being active in your support of open source, favouring manufacturers that support it, complaining to the ones that don't, all of that helps
[04:42] <harisund> There is a package called "linux-source-2.6.15" but I am running linux-2.6.15-27-686. How do I get the source of what I am currently running (and not a generic 2.6.15)?
[04:42] <holycow> wickedpuppy, oh god no, perl is what they make you code when you go to hell
[04:42] <holycow> >_>
[04:42] <Crippy-Boy> Im a BIG supporter of Open source, but i cant just 'not use' anything thats not supported.
[04:42] <wickedpuppy> holycow, perl motto is there is more than one way to do it ...
[04:42] <Crippy-Boy> heh perl isnt too bad, then again i spent a couple of years coding in c
[04:42] <wickedpuppy> ah wrabbit^ .. any fresh problems for us ?
[04:43] <JanKok5> sethk, didn't find a BIOS setting for the CD drive called PIO. There was stuff about CHS and Large, but that doesn't sound like what youe meant. I ran a check on the CD, and it gave me a bunch more Buffer I/O errors when it apparently finished and Uncompressing Linux. Guess I'll try burning another copy of the ubuntu CD.
[04:43] <holycow> Crippy-Boy, well its up to you to decide what you want to do and how much.  the  nice thing about open source is you can't really get pidgeonholed.  you can be a cherry picker all the way down to a kernel hacker ... all up to you
[04:43] <holycow> wickedpuppy, indeedy :) perls greatest strength and greatest weakness
[04:43] <holycow> wickedpuppy, i never understood how anyone can manage to learn perl considering there are 10 billio nways to do everything :)
[04:43] <wrabbit^> wickedpuppy, thankfully none :) After the resinstall yesterday, all has been good.  Got everything running without automatix and I'm very glad
[04:43] <wickedpuppy> holycow, no no ... ah you didn't get my joke :P
[04:43] <yarddog> JanKok5, order them for free
[04:43] <Crippy-Boy> holycow, yup, im going to start supporting a few projects (submitting patches etc), but its just the hardware side im going to find difficult
[04:43] <harisund> anybody knows how I can get the source of 2.6.15-27-686? The source for this kernel doesn't seem to be in the repos?
[04:44] <Crippy-Boy> Choice between Nvidia and ATI, only choice is go with the lesser evil
[04:44] <yarddog> harisund, linux-686
[04:44] <holycow> wickedpuppy, quite possible, i am quite dense
[04:44] <holycow> hehe :)
[04:44] <wrabbit^> I even got my bandwidth shaping all setup with wondershaper
[04:44] <harisund> yarddog which package do I need to install to get the *source* so I can recompile?
[04:44] <wrabbit^> very cool and simple command line shaper
[04:44] <JanKok5> yarddog, yeah, but I wan't something right now :-)
[04:44] <wickedpuppy> holycow, Crippy-Boy, however there is more than one way to deal with it <-- that was your line :P
[04:45] <wickedpuppy> wrabbit^, great job :P
[04:45] <yarddog> harisund, why not use the stock kernel? why compile?
[04:45] <yarddog> JanKok5, :(
[04:45] <holycow> yarddog, good qeustion
[04:45] <freemind> holycow
[04:45] <sethk> harisund, if the source hasn't made it to the repos yet, nothing you can do, really.
[04:45] <ChocoCid> because he's using gentoo?
[04:45] <freemind> whats going on?
[04:45] <ChocoCid> er... >_>
[04:45] <freemind> :-)
[04:46] <holycow> harisund, you do know that the debian/ubuntu kernels are entirely modular? they only load what they need, right?
[04:46] <ChocoCid> (couldn't help myself)
[04:46] <holycow> and on the fly
[04:46] <GoldKeeper> anyone keep getting XML Parsing Error: not well-formed <--- theese sorts of popup errors in firefox ?
[04:46] <holycow> freemind, watching this dude play through a splawn amp --> http://youtube.com/watch?v=u_DFsM-w-xw
[04:46] <harisund> yarddog, sethk and holycow the reason I want to compile my kernel is because I want to use ROPE (a programming language for packet filtering, which is done at the kernel level)
[04:46] <holycow> harisund, ah! cool!
[04:47] <holycow> that would be the right reason to do so indeed :)
[04:47] <sethk> harisund, you don't need to appologise for compiling the kernel.   many people don't understand that it is often necessary, but you can't worry about that.
[04:47] <Crippy-Boy> just use a vanilla kernel :-)
[04:47] <holycow> what seth said
[04:47] <sethk> harisund, also, that the modular nature of the kernel is good for the distro people, but bad for the end user
[04:47] <holycow> well thats wrong
[04:48] <harisund> sethk, hehe.. not apologizing.. the thing is I knew Ubuntu was meant to be for new users, but didn't think the support channel would be so discouraging to someone who knew what they were doing :( .. t
[04:48] <holycow> its actually GREAT for users
[04:48] <oxygene_> what's so bad about it for end users?
[04:48] <sethk> harisund, by the way, Crippy-Boy may have been kidding but the first thing I do is replace it with the kernel.org kernel.
[04:48] <holycow> ots just not great for SOME USERS
[04:48] <sethk> oxygene_, creates the need for initrd file systems.
[04:48] <harisund> sethk, ah.. makes sense...
[04:48] <holycow> what you should NEVER do is what seth does
[04:48] <holycow> lol
[04:48] <holycow> thats just stupid :)
[04:48] <Crippy-Boy> sethk, Nope i wasnt kidding, I have a vanilla kernel running
[04:48] <harisund> besides ChocoCid is right .. I have used Gentoo.. just prefer Ubuntu for its ease... I always recompile what I want .. just not *everything*
[04:48] <freemind> holycow
[04:49] <freemind> was very nice to meet you
[04:49] <holycow> no offense bro but taking a modular kernel and rolling your own makes no sense except in outside use cases like harisunds maybe
[04:49] <freemind> good bye :) im going to sleep
[04:49] <holycow> freemind, later
[04:49] <sethk> Crippy-Boy, me also.
[04:49] <oxygene_> never had any problems with initrd... probably because the distri always did it for me
[04:49] <fick> grr... whats the shell command to rename a directory
[04:49] <freemind> 4:49 am here
[04:49] <freemind> fyi
[04:49] <sethk> holycow, if you say so.  Since I'm a kernel and device driver developer, I guess my perspective is a bit different.
[04:49] <deltab> fick: mv
[04:49] <oxygene_> fick you rename by moving
[04:49] <ChocoCid> i thought debian was targeted for developers and ubuntu to the end user?
[04:50] <holycow> sethk, aha! well i bow before your greatness then :)
[04:50] <holycow> lol
[04:50] <holycow> rarely do i meet a kernel hacker
[04:50] <sethk> holycow, how many bows?  :)
[04:50] <indigo_> ChocoCid, what kind of developer? :_0
[04:50] <holycow> dude as many as it takes :) lol
[04:50] <ChocoCid> uh... any?
[04:50] <harisund> ChocoCid, in a way yes... but that doesn't mean you can't be a kernel hacker or a developer using Ubuntu as well..
[04:50] <Brydenn33> how do i change file association with .mp3's? I don't want Amarok to be used anymore. I want XMMS to be used
[04:50] <ChocoCid> sure, but i thought debian was "better" for developers, in general?
[04:50] <sethk> ChocoCid, I don't agree with that
[04:50] <holycow> sethk, debians greatest feature imho is its modular kernel
[04:50] <harisund> ChocoCid, somehow .. ubuntu has a rep of being a distro meant for 'newbies' and so on... you can do anything on one linux distro that you can on another... atleast that's my opinoi
[04:51] <ChocoCid> i've never used Debian, but i just thought that was the general intent of both distros
[04:51] <sethk> holycow, the modular kernel has nothing to do with any distro.
[04:51] <holycow> that alone allows a noob to really not haveto learn anythiing but just plug stuff in and use it
[04:51] <sethk> holycow, the kernel is the same on all distros.
[04:51] <indigoblu> ChocoCid, mmm im fairly new to Debian (long time Gentoo user) but i dont see much difference other than packaging
[04:51] <ChocoCid> harisund : i'm AWARE of that, but i'm referring to the target of the user
[04:51] <ChocoCid> *system
[04:51] <ChocoCid> *distro
[04:51] <ChocoCid> blarg
[04:51] <Jordan> Has anyone here had any experience with ubuntu and ATI All in Wonders? Does the tv tuner work easily?
[04:51] <holycow> sethk, maybe now
[04:51] <sethk> indigoblu, there isn't any
[04:51] <holycow> there was a time when this wasn't so of course
[04:51] <fick> great .... ran make uninstall for ndiswrapper and it trys to remove /lib/modules/2.******/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper (wont its a directory)
[04:52] <ChocoCid> uh, do sudo apt-get remove ?
[04:52] <MissLady> I installed Ubuntu on my HDD...I need help to config my USBcableModem... it worked fine and automatically with live-cd. So i did dmesg live-cd vs installation to compare what was different.I saw different things between both modes. Can anyone would help me please ?
[04:52] <sethk> Jordan, I found that the all in wonder didn't work worth a damn even in windows, let alone other envs.
[04:52] <indigoblu> holycow, Linux kernel is general....do you mean Ubuntu does modules for everything where Debian you must staticly compile?
[04:52] <harisund> sethk and holycow there's a package called linux-source-2.6.15 which puts a source.tar.bz2 file in /usr/src (standard kernel source path) .. but I want to know if it is the 2.6.15-27 source or something else?
[04:52] <sethk> MissLady, on the live cd, do lsmod, and write down the modules that are in use.
[04:52] <sidny4> ok, what all did I miss?
[04:53] <sethk> harisund, it's the source for the kernel package with the same number (that is, 2.6.15).
[04:53] <holycow> indigoblu, no, ubuntu and debian have a totally modular kernel, now seth says that is true of other distros but then i've used debian now for many years so maybe that is the case now
[04:53] <oxygene_> what harisund asks for is something I'd like to know, too
[04:53] <sethk> harisund, the minor numbers should match up.
[04:53] <Jordan> Any recomendations for a budget priced card? My Radeon 9500 finally kicked the bucket
[04:53] <spuddogg> Whassup everyone
[04:53] <david_> can someone point me to the repository that has the version that works with ubuntu?
[04:53] <holycow> harisund, i'll let seth answer the kernel stuff considering what he does :)
[04:53] <sethk> david_, version of what?
[04:53] <sidny4> question: dual monitors on an nvidia geforce 7600. I'm currently using TwinView, is there a better way?
[04:53] <david_> can someone point me to the repository that has the frostwire version that works with ubuntu?
[04:54] <MissLady> sethk i did lsmod and installed modules who's missing and reboot but nothing worked so i did dmesg to compare and i see now errors in installation
[04:54] <david_> sorry, i was thinking faster than i was typing
[04:54] <harisund> sethk, what do you mean by match up?
[04:54] <harisund> !kernel
[04:54] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:54] <fick> damn it, all was going fine until i let ubuntu upgrade itself to drapper
[04:54] <sethk> MissLady, you are ahead of me.  :)
[04:54] <THX-1138> sethk - no kidding, all-in-wonder was dog slow. took 100mbs of setup files and just plain didn't work as advertised. - ati is second rate.
[04:54] <harisund> sethk, sorry .. the !kernel output is pretty helpful.. I got most of what I want :)
[04:54] <sethk> MissLady, I didn't mean to imply that dmesg wasn't a good thing to do, just that lsmod provides useful info also
[04:54] <sidny4> david_ you can download the ubuntu/debian version from the frostwire website
[04:55] <spuddogg> fick, are there normally problems upgrading?
[04:55] <Rulzern> is there a channel for edgy problems?
[04:55] <Rulzern> on the user end? :p
[04:55] <ChocoCid> #ubuntu+1
[04:55] <david_> i tried that but everytime i ran it it would freeze on me
[04:55] <MissLady> np sethk
[04:55] <feross> any ops here are ops in ubuntu-es.. can I get unbanned please?
[04:55] <Rulzern> thanks :)
[04:55] <sethk> MissLady, when you say errors in installation, what do you mean specifically?
[04:55] <ghostshadow189> hi all , i installed icewm with "sudo apt-get install icewm iceconf iceme" . after that , i loged out and choosed icewm session . but unfornately , it didnt display anything , like toolbar , start menu , etc . it just displayed a blue desktop  . i also tried ctrl+alt+esc and i saw window list , so that mean maybe i installed icewm successfully , but still there're some mistake ?
[04:55] <sidny4> did you receive any error message?
[04:55] <fick> spudddog, i just started using ubuntu, last night after someone helped me get my broadcom wireless card in my laptop working
[04:56] <fick> using ndiswrapper, iwconfig and the like
[04:56] <ChocoCid> someone in here with +o access: please put #ubuntu+1 in the topic for edgy questions :)
[04:56] <MissLady> sethk USB HC takeover failed! (BIOS/SMM bug)
[04:56] <spuddogg> fick:  gotcha.  i was going to ask you about upgrading to edgy when it comes out, but n/m :)
[04:56] <seamus7> hello all.. I have a partition mounted as a directory in / ...... I now realize it would be more convenient to have it mounted in my /home or /home/'user' directory .... can anyone help ... I have a feeling it's a simple process .... thanks
[04:56] <holycow> there is no point, edgy will be released soon
[04:56] <david_> sidny ru asking me? if so, no
[04:56] <sethk> MissLady, hmm, that's nasty.
[04:57] <MissLady> sethk 0000:00:01.2: Can't reset
[04:57] <THX-1138> fick - if you have trouble "configuring network devices" CTRL+C to continue booting. -
[04:57] <sidny4> yeah, ok
[04:57] <sidny4> hmm
[04:57] <THX-1138> Hi cafuego
[04:57] <holycow> lol, you guys realize you have a kernel hacker answering module questions?
[04:57] <holycow> at last you get some reliable advice :)
[04:57] <fick> edgy? oh dear, dosent sound like a nice release :)
[04:57] <holycow> lol
[04:57] <MissLady> sethk ohci_hcd 0000:00:01.2: init 0000:00:01.2 fail, -16
[04:57] <MissLady> ohci_hcd: probe of 0000:00:01.2 failed with error -16
[04:57] <sethk> MissLady, you might try unloading and reloading the main usb module, which might be uhci
[04:57] <sidny4> david_ does it lock up the whole system
[04:57] <SpudDogg> fick: you dont like what you see with edgy?
[04:57] <Fackamato> which is the edgy eft channel?
[04:58] <fick> i dont like the name :)
[04:58] <THX-1138> fick - warty warthog the first release was feared. - lol
[04:58] <SpudDogg> fick: i see, lol.
[04:58] <MissLady> sethk ok but how to unload ?
[04:58] <sethk> MissLady, rmmod
[04:58] <oxygene_> Fackamato, #ubuntu+1
[04:58] <sethk> MissLady, it won't let you unload, without unloading things that depend on it first.
[04:58] <Crippy-Boy> i can just immagine that, talking to a tutor
[04:58] <Crippy-Boy> 'i have warty'
[04:58] <Fackamato> oxygene_: thanks
[04:58] <sethk> MissLady, so you would have to rmmod a bunch of stuff.
[04:58] <Crippy-Boy> I have a feeling the response would envolve 'doctor'
[04:59] <fick> it reminds me of how i feel everytime i let a linux distrubution update itself.......and as usual that feeling was warranted
[04:59] <pike_> seamus7: what sort of partition is it? ntfs, fat32?
[04:59] <gtl> is there a ubuntu64 channel?
[04:59] <ghostshadow189> hi all , i installed icewm with "sudo apt-get install icewm iceconf iceme" . after that , i loged out and choosed icewm session . but unfornately , it didnt display anything , like toolbar , start menu , etc . it just displayed a blue desktop  . i also tried ctrl+alt+esc and i saw window list , so that mean maybe i installed icewm successfully , but still there're some mistake ?
[04:59] <THX-1138> Crippy-Boy: yes, me too. (wipes the shiny silver drink coaster dry.)
[04:59] <seamus7> pike_:ext3
[04:59] <MissLady> sethk: k thx :)
[04:59] <fick> hence, which is why i am now sadly in xp.....
[04:59] <sethk> MissLady, you might do a considerable amount of work and end up back exactly where you are at this moment
[04:59] <david_> no, not the whole system. Just that program. I use xkill to shut it down
[04:59] <holycow> fick, lol
[04:59] <pike_> seamus7: ah. right now does it automount on bootup?
[04:59] <sethk> MissLady, it's worth trying, but it isn't odds on.
[04:59] <holycow> fick, you need a sense of humour first :)  its just a name
[05:00] <HateMS> !grub
[05:00] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:00] <holycow> whenever i think 'micorosfot windows xp' i just get chills at how lifeless that corporate crap is
[05:00] <SpudDogg> What IRC client is everyone using?
[05:00] <unfknblvbl> gaim
[05:00] <ChocoCid> xchat
[05:00] <oxygene_> dito
[05:00] <Crippy-Boy> xp is good, infact all os's are good
[05:00] <david_> konversation
[05:00] <THX-1138> holycow - onthenet pro home version
[05:00] <seamus7> sethk: i have two hard drives .... all ext3 ... one partition / ... one partition /home ....  and then this one as a directory under / .... yes they all automount
[05:00] <fick> i was hoping to switch, due to the fact that i dont really trust windows xp..... but it seems that all these update managers have a habit of making linux distrubutions more unstable than xp....
[05:00] <elkbuntu> !windows
[05:00] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[05:00] <SpudDogg> Has anyone ever used irssi?
[05:00] <holycow> as for upgrading a distro ... well ya know i've yet to see any proprietary upgrade path that was remotely close to workeable
 xp is good, infact all os's are good  <-- windows ME says no
[05:01] <unfknblvbl> haha
[05:01] <ChocoCid> i've used irssi
[05:01] <holycow> all os's are NOT good heh
[05:01] <ghostshadow189> s1 help me pls , i installed icewm with "sudo apt-get install icewm iceconf iceme" . after that , i loged out and choosed icewm session . but unfornately , it didnt display anything , like toolbar , start menu , etc . it just displayed a blue desktop  . i also tried ctrl+alt+esc and i saw window list , so that mean maybe i installed icewm successfully , but still there're some mistake ?
[05:01] <Crippy-Boy> Os's create competition for each other and bring innovations which benifits us (the end user)
[05:01] <ChocoCid> XP is fine, really
[05:01] <holycow> some are better at some things than others but man, winders needs to be rewritten from scratch
[05:01] <elkbuntu> can this OS comparison discussion please go elsewhere?
[05:01] <fick> i really dont like xp but at least when it updates, itself i know it will reboot and come up working
[05:01] <pike_> seamus7: if they are automounting all you should have to do is sudo gedit /etc/fstab and change the mount point to whatever directory you've made under /home
[05:02] <seamus7> pike_: oops I used the wrong nick there ... sorry
[05:02] <holycow> fick, actually i have the opposite experience with xp
[05:02] <fick> now, xp is not fine
[05:02] <ChocoCid> XP was actually a large leap forward, but vista looks to be going the other way
[05:02] <fick> no, xp is not fine
[05:02] <holycow> fick i run several hunder machines we actually DON'T UPDATE
[05:02] <ChocoCid> well, ok, xp has drm issues and stuff, and it's not free
[05:02] <holycow> i cannot tell you how many times an xp update has borked the entire install
[05:02] <fick> xp is something i run with a certain amount of paranoia
[05:02] <holycow> its infact total shit
[05:02] <THX-1138> SpudDogg: Yes, occasionally google irssi help-full.html
[05:02] <yarddog> !offtopic
[05:02] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:02] <holycow> for something that we paid for
[05:02] <SpudDogg> ChocoCid: free is always good :)
[05:02] <seamus7> pike_: so it's no problem to mount one partition in a directory within a separate partition?
[05:03] <pike_> seamus7: nope
[05:03] <fick> whereas a update soultion is a linux distrubtion seems like utter suicide
[05:03] <Crippy-Boy> jeez, and people still refuse to contemplate how competition between os's benefit everyone, sad times :(
[05:03] <holycow> on the other hand with linux, i can GUARANTEE it will come up .. .notably because i know that even if there is a problem i can actually fix it instead of try and search for the latest weirdass patch and hotfix from a company that cannot get their head out of their ass
[05:03] <fick> i mean in a linux distrubtion
[05:03] <ChocoCid> sure, but i'd rather get a computer with XP preinstalled than a computer with, uh, pretty much any other windows install :P
[05:03] <seamus7> pike_: thanks i'll give it a go.
[05:03] <holycow> ChocoCid, thats not saying much
[05:03] <holycow> you can get crap in a bag or crap in a box, crap in a box is still crap
[05:03] <fick> i just let ubuntu update itself from badger to drapper...and now ndiswrapper donsent work
[05:04] <holycow> fick, lol dude
[05:04] <holycow> fick, try this comparison then?
[05:04] <holycow> take win98 and upgrade that to 2000 using an upgrade dis
[05:04] <holycow> or
[05:04] <DBO> holycow, fick, you guys are getting off topic
[05:04] <Crippy-Boy> holycow, if there was only 1 os, where do you think we'd be now?
[05:04] <holycow> upgrade win2k to winxp using an upgrade disk
[05:04] <DBO> join #ubuntu-offtopic please =)
[05:04] <holycow> or when vista comes out I DARE YOU to upgrade from your xp
[05:04] <oxygene_> fick, try upgrading to edgy, maybe it'll start working again ;)
[05:04] <holycow> i dare you
[05:04] <holycow> *cough*
[05:04] <ChocoCid> Crippy-Boy : using linux with 300 distros, like today
[05:04] <asdef> hi there, excuseme, how do i compile things using gcc-3.4 instead than default one ?
[05:04] <holycow> if you think one shitty little driver interface is too big for you to handle
[05:05] <Crippy-Boy> holycow, MS is a shit company with shit business models, but they bring alot to the table for others, as do others with ms
[05:05] <holycow> oh boy, you really don't know what you hav ecomming :)
[05:05] <yarddog> !language
[05:05] <holycow> hehe
[05:05] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:05] <fick> i then downloaded the latest version and found that make uninstall script dosent work
[05:05] <sidny4> fick, is it a broadcomm adapter?
[05:05] <HateMS> ok I need ANY grub help, this is freaking retarded
[05:05] <fick> btw my cd drive on my laptop is DEAD, so i can burn iso's
[05:05] <asdef> hi there, excuseme, how do i compile things using gcc-3.4 instead than default one ?
[05:05] <holycow> Crippy-Boy, well you can look at the ms glass as half full, i cannot but look at it as half empty considering all the bad things they do behind the scenes
[05:05] <THX-1138> FOSS competition forced an early release of ie7
[05:05] <fick> i can only access the hd from within vmware
[05:05] <yarddog> !ops
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[05:05] <SpudDogg> HateMS: what's goin on man?
[05:05] <Se7h> could some one help me on the webcam ?
[05:05] <DBO> yarddog?
[05:06] <Se7h> (edgy)
[05:06] <holycow> fick, its perfectly cool if you like windows and want to use it.  i'm not bashing you at all dude :)
[05:06] <Madpilot> yarddog?
[05:06] <sidny4> fick, is it a broadcomm adapter?
[05:06] <yarddog> DBO, offtopic, language abuse
[05:06] <asdef> hi there, excuseme, how do i compile things using gcc-3.4 instead than default one ?
[05:06] <Crippy-Boy> holycow, and the good things?
[05:06] <DBO> holycow, please stop the offtopic conversation, you too Crippy-Boy
[05:06] <HateMS> spuddogg, put Vista on, took GRUB out of MBR, now i've been going through every way I can find to get GRUB back and nothings working
[05:06] <holycow> fick, i really think that you don't have a proper frame of reference and enough experience to conclude that upgrading a distro is hard and upgrading windows is easy :)
[05:06] <fick> i wish that linux-distrubtions had a sort of vmware mode, so you could load your linux in windows without screwing up your X Settings etc....
[05:06] <asdef> hi there, excuseme, how do i compile things using gcc-3.4 instead than default one ?
[05:06] <Tokenbad> holycow, found xchat plugin that works for posting now playing in xmms...thanks for your help
[05:06] <Crippy-Boy> Im not saying its great and we should all switch, i just think the more os competition there is the more new shiny toys we have.
[05:06] <holycow> Tokenbad, no prob
[05:07] <SpudDogg> HateMS: well, you can add and remove things from your grub menu at /boot/grub/menu.lst    maybe you just need to add your Vista MBR there?
[05:07] <holycow> fick, what does that questio neven mean?
[05:07] <Tokenbad> also installed the xchat-xsys plugin..that one is cool
[05:07] <asdef> hi there, excuseme, how do i compile things using gcc-3.4 instead than default one ?
[05:07] <oxygene_> asdef: well, use the gcc-3.4 binary
[05:07] <pike_> fick: heh you could run everyting in vservers
[05:07] <holycow> you can instlal linux on vmware on top of windows of course so ... ?
[05:07] <ghostshadow189> hi all , i installed icewm with "sudo apt-get install icewm iceconf iceme" . after that , i loged out and choosed icewm session . but unfornately , it didnt display anything , like toolbar , start menu , etc . it just displayed a blue desktop  . i also tried ctrl+alt+esc and i saw window list , so that mean maybe i installed icewm successfully , but still there're some mistake ?
[05:07] <HateMS> spuddogg, booting into Vista isnt the problem, it boots in there automatically, I want to be able to get into Ubuntu
[05:07] <oxygene_> or set the CC environment variable to the apropriate path
[05:07] <THX-1138> Okay, all interested in windows chat move to #ubuntu-off topic and take a drink each time someone says trojan
[05:07] <HateMS> spuddogg, i'm in the live cd now
[05:07] <asdef> oxygene_: i've both gcc-4.0 and gcc-3.4 installed
[05:08] <darkaura> holycow ubuntu installs the 386 kernel by default I run a intel pentium m 2 ghz is there any benifit in installing the 686 kernel?
[05:08] <asdef> oxygene_: but when i compile things, it uses gcc-4.0
[05:08] <Crippy-Boy> HateMS, boot to the live cd and do a grub-install
[05:08] <FAERRLUQ> aguante ubuntu!
[05:08] <fick> hmm, you know i was hoping to run windows in linux instead of the other way around :)
[05:08] <SpudDogg> HateMS: I also have learned that it helps exponentially to install your Ubuntu last...it seems to be really nice to other os's mbr.  How to manage grub from Windows, I have NO idea at all.
[05:08] <ghostshadow189> s1 help me pls
[05:08] <ghostshadow189> hi all , i installed icewm with "sudo apt-get install icewm iceconf iceme" . after that , i loged out and choosed icewm session . but unfornately , it didnt display anything , like toolbar , start menu , etc . it just displayed a blue desktop  . i also tried ctrl+alt+esc and i saw window list , so that mean maybe i installed icewm successfully , but still there're some mistake ?
[05:08] <holycow> darkaura, yes, it can access maximum ram available for your system, 386 can only acces 786 megs ram
[05:08] <FAERRLUQ> who speak spanish?????!!!!!
[05:08] <holycow> fick, you can, vmware again
[05:08] <harisund> Can someone tell me what's the latest kernel in the repos right now for the 2.6.15 kernel?
[05:08] <Madpilot> !es
[05:08] <holycow> !es
[05:08] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:08] <harisund> I mean, the minor version number?
[05:08] <oxygene_> asdef,  a lot of makefiles read the CC or CXX environment variable
[05:09] <FAERRLUQ> gracias
[05:09] <darkaura> okay I got a fresh install of ubuntu how would I go about installing the 686 kernel
[05:09] <fick> this is what i get for having one of those broadcom bcm4318 cards
[05:09] <Madpilot> harisund, looks like 2.6.15-27-386
[05:09] <holycow> de nada
[05:09] <HateMS> spuddogg, yeah I have, i've used Ubuntu about a year and always put it on last when I was doing that, but I took XP off and put Vista (while leaving ubuntu) which is why
[05:09] <holycow> darkaura, apt-cache search kernel 686
[05:09] <sidny4> vmware works pretty well if you want to run one Os within another OS, problem is that it eats ram
[05:09] <harisund> Madpilot, ah ok .. the Ubuntu wiki says 2.6.17 is in the repos, but I coulnd't find it (atleast not in the official repos)
[05:09] <holycow> install the one that looks right for your system
[05:09] <sidny4> for breakfast
[05:09] <asdef> oxygene_: thanks
[05:09] <asdef> oxygene_: i'm trying to compile L4/Iguana, it uses 'scons' instead of make
[05:09] <oxygene_> asdef: it depends on what you want to compile
[05:09] <Se7h> could some one help me on the webcam ? (edgy)
[05:10] <HateMS> spuddogg, I ran grub-install, now what
[05:10] <THX-1138> !webcam
[05:10] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:10] <SpudDogg> fick: have you installed ndisgtk for the handy GUI for ndiswrapper?
[05:10] <asdef> i successfully compiled it on a debian at univ, but i'm failing here on ubuntu
[05:10] <oxygene_> asdef: you could always change the /usr/bin/gcc-symlink
[05:10] <asdef> because the gcc version is too advanced
[05:10] <craigbass1976> I've looked aroudn the desktop for a couple days now and can't find how to shut off the login sound in KDE.  I stopped the drum at the login screen, but not the sound that palys once KDE is finished firing up.  Anyone know how?
[05:10] <oxygene_> asdef, but I wouln't do it without trying the other things first
[05:10] <fick> eek, i may disconnect due to war-roaming :)
[05:11] <SpudDogg> HateMS: i have no idea man...i only know how to add things to the list, really.  you said before that you needed ANY grub help.  sorry i couldnt be more help to you.
[05:11] <holycow> craigbass1976, #kubuntu might be a good place to try also, they are kden fanatics
[05:11] <HateMS> spuddogg, well what did grub-install just do, I just ran it and it did something and then closed
[05:11] <holycow> fick, i will add one last thing to what you said
[05:11] <asdef> oxygene_: if i remember well there's a script that changes the default gcc version
[05:11] <craigbass1976> holycow, Ahh, didn't realize there was a special room.
[05:11] <asdef> but i don't remember it
[05:12] <holycow> fick, you are totally right in feeling what you feel right now, its all cool
[05:12] <SpudDogg> HateMS: honestly, i have no idea
[05:12] <SpudDogg> HateMS: brb
[05:12] <darkaura> can I install the new kernel through Synaptic Package Manager
[05:12] <HateMS> My Ubuntu partition is lost foreverrrr!
[05:12] <THX-1138> darkaura: yes
[05:12] <fick> thank you, mr psycologist, get you help me some drugs from mr. pharmacist :)
[05:12] <holycow> fick, but from experience in coaching people into linux world, i have noticed that once you learn why things are the way they are, one you kinda 'get it' you cannot go back to ms, in comparison its just a piece of junk
[05:12] <pike_> darkaura: you can just type sudo apt-get install linux-image-686 if you want
[05:12] <holycow> fick, maybe one day :) were here to help if you wanna muck about
[05:12] <ChocoCid> holycow :  correct you are
[05:13] <dream> how do i get ubuntu to recognize my printer. i tried add printer and it doesnt recognize it
[05:13] <fick> holycow, i been coming back to linux for years
[05:13] <asdef> oxygene_: gcc-config maybe
[05:13] <fick> holycow, i feel that if my cd drive wasnt dead on my laptop, this would be a lot easier
[05:13] <holycow> fick, sure, maybe one day we will have 'linux ready hardware' wher eyou can go down to the store and buy a system preinstalled for you and certified
[05:13] <holycow> fick, maybe one day we will have enough clout to get that going, so that when you dist upgrade you don't haveto fight  with proprietary drivers
[05:14] <THX-1138> compare the simplicity of adding themes to Ubuntu with a redmond WA adware filled windowblinds
[05:14] <oxygene_> asdef, I don't know gcc-config. but ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc will do it, too
[05:14] <fick> holycow: i get the feeling that ms themselves are to blame for the lack of drivers for linux.....( well i suspect)
[05:14] <feross> dream: tried the printer util under system>admin>printing?
[05:14] <holycow> fick, for now perhaps we can't live up to your requirements and thats cool too, hard to make everyone happy but i'll try to answer question anyway
[05:14] <darkaura> its probibly best for me to install the new kernel before I install the Ubuntu Nvidia drivers right?
[05:14] <holycow> fick, in so much as hardware manufacturers have  been trained to be lazy and selfish yes
[05:14] <dream> yes feross i did
[05:14] <ChocoCid> well
[05:15] <ChocoCid> i think ms probably gives them a kickback
[05:15] <SkramX> at setup i forgot to put in a resolution which I want to use now... how do I add it?
[05:15] <dream> feross i am restarting the computer cause hoping maybe it will recognize the printer
[05:15] <THX-1138> feross: Did you select "smb" windows printer?
[05:15] <holycow> fick, the  unfortunate sideffect of ms dominance is that consumers are also trained to think wrong about computers
[05:15] <sidny4> is twinview the only way to use dual monitors on an nvidia card?
[05:15] <pike_> darkaura: if you install nivida from repos do it however you want but if you use the nvidia.sh install then yes
[05:15] <THX-1138> nvm
[05:15] <THX-1138> !xinerama
[05:15] <feross> dream: is it an hp printer, there's a util specific for hp's.
[05:15] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[05:15] <fick> basically, at the end of the day....linux will have a much better chance of kicking windows arse when it updates work better.....
[05:15] <holycow> consumers now think of computers like products like toasters.  a computer isn't a product its a process.  consumers need to understand that they haveto manage a process they cannot buy a computer like a toaster
[05:15] <fick> and i hope it is very soon......
[05:15] <holycow> but oh well thats now, tommorrow is another day
[05:15] <darkaura> sorry I just want to get this right this time
[05:15] <dream> feross, its a brother printer
[05:16] <Unity> whats the idea with ALSA? total linux newbie over here, i remember i install ubuntu before and no sound worked at all, then went to install realtek driver and it didn't seem to work, summin to do with ALSA or something, but on this install it all seems to work automatically, & says shutting down alsa when i shut down, so not really sure, oh well, lol.
[05:16] <elkbuntu> fick, holycow **** can the offtopic talk PLEASE go to #ubuntu-offtopic, or given the subject of your discussion atm, to ##off-topic ****
[05:16] <holycow> sidny4, now you can use xinerama but twinview with nvidia is far better
[05:16] <fick> elkbuntu...is that a bot......
[05:16] <elkbuntu> fick, no
[05:16] <darkaura> brb
[05:16] <deadly_venom> holycow:  I've got last question. Whenever I plug my usb hdd into my  Ubuntu, The motor of my hdd is running BUT it doesn't show in my Ubuntu Desktop, any idea ?
[05:16] <sidny4> ok
[05:16] <feross> dream: ok, well that could be a chore. You might have to just use a lexmark or hp driver. anything on G about that?
[05:16] <elkbuntu> fick, but various people have said this to you all about a dozen times, and you've ignored every instance
[05:17] <holycow> i beg to differ, elkbuntu is some very clever ai
[05:17] <fick> it seems everytime i am critical of windoze, i get some crap from elkbuntu......
[05:17] <holycow> i bet elkbuntu is written in lisp
[05:17] <THX-1138> holycow - has good advice twinview creates two seperate spaces. xinerama one wide desk
[05:17] <sidny4> deadly_venom, you probably have to mount the drive
[05:17] <holycow> >_<
[05:17] <fick> i mean am critical of linux
[05:17] <elkbuntu> fick, holycow. grow up, and take the talk out of the SUPPORT channel
[05:17] <holycow> fick, absolutely, that is its greatest strength
[05:17] <fick> no, elk only you have said it multiple times
[05:17] <sidny4> how do you mean two separate spaces?
[05:17] <elkbuntu> this is a support channel, not a random discussion channel
[05:17] <deadly_venom> sidny4: How do I know if it's /dev/sda6 or /dev/sda5 ?
[05:17] <anon32> how do I change my MTU?
[05:18] <fick> by discussing issues with ubantu, we will spawn support questions and maybe even solutions .....
[05:18] <hondje> anon32: sudo ifconfig mtu #, where # is the MTU
[05:18] <Gierke> anyone wanna help me install ndiswrapper from source :(
[05:18] <holycow> elkbuntu, i challenge your definition of tech support
[05:18] <sidny4> deadly_venom, it could be either one, try mounting both and see if you can access it
[05:18] <holycow> i submit that everything i've said so far actualy IS UBUNTU SUPPORT
[05:19] <elkbuntu> fick, all you're doing is making alot of other stuff that the confused people here have to wade through to find answers to the questions they asked
[05:19] <Madpilot> fick, holycow - drop it. Last warning: Off topic chat goes to #ubuntu-offtopic or another channel. Not, repeat not, here.
[05:19] <fick> gierke....good luck i just tried
[05:19] <deadly_venom> sidny4:  that was just an example, what if it was IDE HDD .. and if it was /dev/hda4/5/6/7/8/9 ;s
[05:19] <anon32> no such device
[05:19] <holycow> framing specific issues in a general perspective sometimes helps users to picture how this stuff works
[05:19] <holycow> Madpilot, go away, i'm not really interested in what you haveto say
[05:19] <yarddog> !ops
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[05:20] <hondje> anon32: maybe ifconfig eth0 mtu # then
[05:20] <sidny4> ide is hda, usb, scsi, SATA is usually sda
[05:20] <ghostshadow189> s1 help me pls , i installed icewm with "sudo apt-get install icewm iceconf iceme" . after that , i loged out and choosed icewm session . but unfornately , it didnt display anything , like toolbar , start menu , etc . it just displayed a blue desktop  . i also tried ctrl+alt+esc and i saw window list , so that mean maybe i installed icewm successfully , but still there're some mistake ?
[05:20] <fick> you know thats funny,,,, ndiswrapper problems are what bought me here
[05:20] <darkaura> 10 min for updates to take place then I can install video card properly
[05:20] <anon32> hondje, that's better
[05:20] <sidny4> if it's the only usb, scsi, or SATA, it should be sda1
[05:20] <elkbuntu> fick, then discuss ndiswrapper, not MS philosophy or other tangents
[05:20] <Amaranth> sidny4: It's much less confusing in edgy, everything is s<something>
[05:20] <anon32> whoa, this wallpaper from Wikipedia rules (yea, kinda a newbie comment)
[05:21] <sidny4> ic, I haven't tried edgy yet
[05:21] <Amaranth> anon32: The tree?
[05:21] <fick> by discussing my issues with how it came about, i am violating the rules, intresting......maybe if i was a good little linux user and was critcal of it as well as windows you would not be complaining...bye
[05:21] <fick> i find another dist.
[05:21] <Amaranth> sidny4: My cdrom drive is scd0, for example.
[05:21] <oxygene_> lol
[05:21] <deadly_venom> sidny4: First i would create a mount point, by typing -> sudo /mnt/usb ... next, i would mount the driver (Assuming it's sda1),, then i would type mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb , correct?
[05:21] <anon32> Amaranth, no... it's from Wikipedia
[05:21] <hondje> deadly_venom: You'd want a mkdir in there I think :)
[05:21] <SkramX> how do I add more resolution options?
[05:21] <SkramX> *shrug*
[05:22] <Amaranth> !fixres
[05:22] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:22] <deadly_venom> hondje: oh ya, sorry! Thanks.
[05:22] <sidny4> yeah, sudo mkdir /mnt/usb
[05:22] <hondje> :-)
[05:22] <SkramX> Amaranth: thanks
[05:22] <anon32> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Alpamayo.jpg
[05:22] <SkramX> ill loook at that
[05:22] <SkramX> thanks
[05:22] <deadly_venom> sidny4: But my usb hdd isn't ntfs, and it's fat32 .. still go with vfat ?
[05:22] <Amaranth> anon32: ah, nice
[05:22] <anon32> too bad that place'll be gone in a year because of global warming
[05:23] <hondje> vfat for fat32, ntfs for NTFS :)
[05:23] <sidny4> yeah, maybe try it without the vfat, justt mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb and if that doesn't work throw in the vfat
[05:23] <sidny4> sometimes it'll pick up the partition type automatically
[05:23] <anon32> which may take a while since I'm on dialup
[05:23] <Consty> Do most with a AMD64 run the 64 bit version of Ubuntu, or do they run the 32 bit because of problems ?
[05:23] <ghostshadow189> hi all , i've an error when i click on show desktop button , it told me error : Your window manager does not support the show desktop button, or you are not running a window manager.
[05:23] <harisund> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild <--- this page has this line: The stock Ubuntu configs are located in debian/config/ARCH/ where ARCH is the architecture you are building for. In this directory are several files. The config file is the base for all targets in that architecture"" But I am not able to find any of those files, can someone help me?
[05:23] <THX-1138> Do i need ESSID for an open access point?
[05:24] <Amaranth> THX-1138: Yeah, it's how you associate with the access point.
[05:24] <hondje> Consty: Most people run 32 bit so that things like flash and media codecs work
[05:24] <deadly_venom> mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist
[05:24] <THX-1138> Amaranth - Would Linksys be best? - suggestion?
[05:24] <hondje> Consty: If you're not planning on using it as a desktop or plan to address huge amts of memory, 64 bit is probably the way to go....so depends on what you do  :)
[05:25] <zOrK> um..
[05:25] <Amaranth> THX-1138: You're looking to buy a wireless router?
[05:25] <sidny4> THX-1138, you need to tell the computer what network to connect to, so yes, you would need to specify the ESSID
[05:25] <hantu> deadly_venom: dmesg after you plugged in the usb device.. and check which dev it triggered.
[05:25] <zOrK> Wireless does not works on my HP pavilion :(
[05:25] <zOrK> I've tried everything.
[05:25] <Consty> thanks
[05:25] <zOrK> from  ndiswrapper to setup it manually through the network-admin package.
[05:25] <RedRose> I want to run a server, but am caught as to which OS to use. I'm not going to use Win, i can say that, but my main Question is, Linux, BSD, or Solaris?
[05:25] <sidny4> well, WRT54GL is supposed to be pretty good, and it even has linux software running it
[05:25] <THX-1138> Amaranth - spare machine iso torrents and open acces
[05:25] <ChocoCid> zOrK : do you have a broadcom wireless card?
[05:25] <zOrK> what can I do?
[05:25] <zOrK> ummm
[05:25] <zOrK> let
[05:25] <hondje> RedRose: I'd say go with what you know :)
[05:25] <seamus7> pike_: you still there?
[05:25] <Amaranth> THX-1138: anything will do
[05:26] <hondje> especially if it's in production
[05:26] <harisund> Any kernel developers in here? Or atleast someone who has compiled a Ubuntu kernel? please?
[05:26] <oxygene_> deadly_venom, you could tail -f /var/log/messages to see what usb device comes up when turning on your usb drive
[05:26] <ChocoCid> type lspci
[05:26] <Amaranth> THX-1138: I'd stay away from netgear and linksys though.
[05:26] <RedRose> hondje:I know them all
[05:26] <zOrK> yes ch
[05:26] <elkbuntu> RedRose, you're in a linux channel. we're most likely going to say linux :)
[05:26] <zOrK> yes ChocoCid
[05:26] <zOrK> it is.
[05:26] <ChocoCid> yeah, figured
[05:26] <ChocoCid> dapper, breezy, what?
[05:26] <feross> RedRose: I run ubuntu server, works great and it has support for the next 6 years :)
[05:26] <THX-1138> Amaranth sidny Thanks guys
[05:26] <zOrK> Broadcom 802
[05:26] <zOrK> dapper..
[05:26] <ChocoCid> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[05:26] <hondje> RedRose: Well, if you want my useless opinion, I'd use solaris then
[05:26] <ChocoCid> have fun, it's a pain in the ass
[05:26] <zOrK> ok
[05:26] <zOrK> thank
[05:26] <elkbuntu> feross, no, 5.. well 4.5 now
[05:26] <zOrK> it is?
[05:26] <ChocoCid> blame broadcom for being proprietary instead of open
[05:26] <sidny4> Amaranth, what router do you recommend?
[05:26] <THX-1138> Amaranth - it's RaLink 2500 series - native driver.
[05:26] <hondje> But I'm fond of throwing debian on things I don't want to spend a lot of time maintaining...like my personal webserver, etc
[05:27] <oxygene_> deadly_venom, you could also add the disk mounter applet to your gnome-panel and mount it from there
[05:27] <ChocoCid> you can't use ndiswrapper for broadcom
[05:27] <feross> elkbuntu: details details.. I'm trying to make a sale here ;)
[05:27] <Amaranth> sidny4: Well, my Belkin works alright.
[05:27] <elkbuntu> feross, lol
[05:27] <ChocoCid> broacom requires some proprietary driver
[05:27] <ChocoCid> which you can likely get.... blah
[05:27] <sidny4> yeah
[05:27] <Amaranth> sidny4: But you don't want to buy the cheapest one, they're really small and get really hot.
[05:27] <sidny4> I have a d-link that I'm pretty fond of
[05:27] <ChocoCid> i'm *hoping* that him leaving was due to rebooting in windows to grab the driver :\
[05:28] <sidny4> I've configured a few belkins, the cheap kind, not sure how long they lasted though, configured and ran :D
[05:28] <THX-1138> cafuego i think it was had a patch/binary for broadcom
[05:28] <sidny4> you can use broadcomm with ndiswrapper, you just nee to disable the broadcomm43xx that comes with dapper
[05:28] <FAERRLUQ> paraguay fiu fiu!
[05:29] <THX-1138> !es
[05:29] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:29] <sidny4> anybody ever use lirc?
[05:29] <ChocoCid> lost irc?
[05:29] <SkramX> i have two  monitors resolutions i use.. sometimes on my laptop's lcd (1024x768) and sometimes my 19" lcd of 1280x1024 is this possible?
[05:29] <SkramX> *sigh*
[05:29] <sidny4> nope, linus infrared client
[05:29] <SeraVitae> hi there, anyone might have a link to setting up a vnc server on ubuntu/gnome?
[05:29] <sidny4> linux*
[05:29] <ChocoCid> then my answer is no :P
[05:29] <ChocoCid> !vnc
[05:29] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[05:29] <sidny4> !putty
[05:29] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[05:29] <SeraVitae> its just over lan
[05:29] <morodock> anyone know where to find latest vmware for ubuntu reposititory? when I run player, it tell me there is a new version, but that's the latest from my synaptic repos
[05:29] <morodock> or is it now out yet?
[05:30] <Unity> anyone know if call of duty 2 multiplayers possible on cadega ?
[05:30] <morodock> now - not
[05:30] <FAERRLUQ> el chanchon!
[05:30] <madorb> hey, i'm trying to install, but the installer doesn't let me partition or install to /dev/hdf... any ideas anyone?
[05:30] <feross> SeraVitae: uh uh.. I have one that uses himachi and vnc ... interested?
[05:30] <deadly_venom> sorry for the delay hondje..
[05:30] <deadly_venom> [17182842.460000]  usb 2-2: reset full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and addres s 27
[05:30] <madorb> it only provides /dev/[hda|hdb] 
[05:30] <deadly_venom> there!\
[05:30] <sidny4> madorb, do you have 6 hard drives?
[05:30] <feross> SeraVitae: oh, I guess if it's over lan no need for VPN
[05:31] <SeraVitae> yeah
[05:31] <SeraVitae> ill just follow the server instructions
[05:31] <seamus7> Hi all ... I'm trying to move a partition from a directory under / to a directory under /home/'user' .... it's an ext3 partition ... I edited the mountpoint in fstab to point to a different directory and restarted my computer but it doesn't seemed to have taken ... anyone available to help? pike_ still there?
[05:31] <oxygene_> deadly_venom, it should be followed by something like "SCSI device sda: 488397168 512-byte hdwr sectors (250059 MB)"
[05:31] <madorb> 3 hds
[05:31] <sidny4> ok, so that means you have /dev/hda, hdb, hdc
[05:32] <sidny4> which partition is it on which drive?
[05:32] <deadly_venom> oxygene_:  [17182847.504000]  sd 240:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x70000
[05:32] <oxygene_> deadly_venom, I use the disk mounter applet so I see the icon for the disk when it is connected and I can mount it from there easily
[05:32] <madorb> well, for whatever reason it read them in as hda, hdb, hdf
[05:32] <madorb> no clue why
[05:33] <sidny4> hmm, ok, how are you trying to install?
[05:33] <madorb> dev/hdf has what i want to install to
[05:33] <pike_> seamus7: if you sudo mount -a  You get errors?
[05:33] <Axe_> how do I make a shortcut to a folder on the desktop
[05:33] <madorb> standard installer
[05:33] <sidny4> throughthe live CD?
[05:33] <deadly_venom> oxygene_:  [17182847.504000]  sd 240:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x70000
[05:33] <hyperstream> how can i make alsa choose my nvidia onboard over my pci soundblaster?
[05:33] <feross> Axe_: right click create launcher
[05:33] <oxygene_> deadly_venom, well. that's strange
[05:33] <hyperstream> as its primary output
[05:33] <robert_> bah, wtf- V4L keeps making apps freeze
[05:33] <deadly_venom> oxygene_:  maybe, mine is not scsi
[05:34] <robert_> V4L2 won't work at all
[05:34] <mikewinsdesk> Is there somewheres where I can read to setup different groups of users on different virtual servers for proftpd in webmin
[05:34] <seamus7> pike_: do i need to change to a different directory in the terminal before using that command?
[05:34] <oxygene_> deadly_venom, my usb drive is a simple eide-drive via usb
[05:34] <deadly_venom> oxygene_:  i got this also -> [17182847.504000]  sd 240:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x70000
[05:34] <pike_> seamus7: nope it just mounts everything in fstab
[05:34] <deadly_venom> oxygene_: I got this also -> [17182847.504000]  sd 240:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x70000
[05:34] <seamus7> pike_: oh ok let me try
[05:34] <oxygene_> i get it
[05:35] <seamus7> pike_: no error messages
[05:35] <oxygene_> deadly_venom, do you use a usb hub or maybe a long usb cable?
[05:35] <pike_> seamus7: what directory did you set it to mount to exactly? like /home/username/something ?
[05:36] <oxygene_> deadly_venom, try another usb port, too
[05:36] <jerrcs> hi, my /lib /usr/lib and /var/lib folders a HUGE, is there anyway to reduce the space used by them?
[05:36] <deadly_venom> oxygene_:  My hdd and my ubuntu box is both connected with a usb.
[05:36] <seamus7> pike_: that did it ... the partition is now showing up properly in the directory I pointed to in fstab .... Thanks!
[05:36] <madorb> i'll try the alternate installer, thanks all
[05:36] <seamus7> pike_: i thought rebooting would do what your command did .... no?
[05:36] <darkaura> when I create a folder to share on my computer my friend who is using windows can see me and access my computer but when he goes to view the folder it asks for an user name a password
[05:37] <pike_> seamus7: np maybe the entry in fstab is higher than your home dir partition? might put it at the bottom
[05:37] <rixth> Is there a KHTML-based browser for gnome?
[05:37] <SeraVitae> Okay i have the VNC server running now.
[05:37] <deadly_venom> oxygene_: [17183568.188000]  scsi249 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[05:37] <deadly_venom> [17183568.188000]  usb-storage: device found at 41
[05:37] <deadly_venom> [17183568.188000]  usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
[05:37] <SeraVitae> but i didn't see in vnc.conf or any options, what the port for VNC was.
[05:37] <SeraVitae> ?
[05:37] <seamus7> pike_: yeah it is
[05:38] <rob> darkaura: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking-introduction.html
[05:38] <oxygene_> deadly_venom, you can use  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for the whole log
[05:38] <rob> there are a few pages
[05:38] <pike_> seamus7: thats the only thing i could think of if home hadnt mounted yet and it tried to mount the other partition first but it couldnt find the directory
[05:39] <hondje> rixth: No, but there's a gtk-webkit thing on sourceforge
[05:39] <SuperQ> does anyone know where mkinitramfs gets it's hints about / being a raid device?
[05:39] <SuperQ> (/dev/md0 == raid1)
[05:39] <rob> rixth: just use konqueror?
[05:39] <rixth> rob, eehhh but KDE apps don't fit in with gnome
[05:39] <feross> SeraVitae: try lsof -i | grep LISTEN
[05:40] <mikewinsdesk> why when i change the directory to /home instead of /home/FTP-shared in proftpd does is refuse my connection, otherwise when its set to /home/FTP-shared it works fine, I was using this tutorial to set it up http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79588&highlight=proftpd , but now I want to set it up for virtual ftp servers
[05:40] <deadly_venom> oxygene_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25944/
[05:40] <ChocoCid> kde apps work fine on gnome
[05:40] <rob> rixth: sure they do, if you spend the time to configure the themes correctly
[05:40] <SuperQ> hrm
[05:40] <Arafangion> My touchpad is too dang sensitive - how do i fix this?
[05:40] <GoldKeeper> hmm
[05:40] <ChocoCid> many of the KDE apps are *redundant* with gnome apps
[05:41] <ChocoCid> which means it's pointless to have both
[05:41] <GoldKeeper> i cant compile in ubuntu ?
[05:41] <rob> umm kioslaves are nice though
[05:41] <rob> ubotu: tell GoldKeeper about buildessential
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buildessential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <Dual> Hey guys, I'm having a problem with gaim, 1.5.1cvs,  one one of my MSN accounts it just completely quits after it logs on. I'm even able to see the buddy list (for less than a second)
[05:41] <rob> bah
[05:41] <oxygene_> deadly_venom, looks like a hardware problem
[05:41] <Madpilot> GoldKeeper, install build-essential
[05:41] <GoldKeeper> k
[05:41] <oxygene_> deadly_venom, try plugging the drive in another usb port
[05:41] <seamus7> pike_: would you happen to know what the error message means in my fstab file for my / partition under the column 'options' ... specifically it says   'defaults,errors=remount-ro'
[05:42] <GoldKeeper> that really should be standard
[05:42] <Arafangion> Dual: If it's a problem with the version of gaim that comes with Ubuntu, fine, but if it's a problem with a non-default version of gaim, why don't you ask the gaim folks?
[05:42] <Se7h> could some one help me on the webcam spca5 driver? (edgy)
[05:42] <SeraVitae> feross - okay that worked
[05:42] <Arafangion> GoldKeeper: It _is_ standard.
[05:42] <SeraVitae> now um
[05:42] <Dual> it came with ubuntu
[05:42] <rob> GoldKeeper: it's the source of much debate, its on the cd though
[05:42] <nex_> howdy everyone
[05:42] <SeraVitae> the VNC server window..
[05:42] <GoldKeeper> i mean its no big deal
[05:42] <SeraVitae> it uh... looks nothing like what's on the server right now.
[05:42] <Arafangion> GoldKeeper: Infact, every single debian and debian-derived distro does it the same way.
[05:42] <billi_> 1231
[05:42] <GoldKeeper> ubuntu is awsome
[05:42] <GoldKeeper> but
[05:42] <Dual> Arafangion: it did come installed with ubuntu
[05:43] <SuperQ> nevermind.. I figured it out.. mdadm comes with the scripts stuff
[05:43] <SuperQ> *sigh*
[05:43] <deadly_venom> oxygene_:  same thing! :( .. Let me check the BIOS Setting
[05:43] <Arafangion> GoldKeeper: Mac OS X also requires explicit installation for their developer tools.
[05:43] <ChocoCid> right now i have kmine open next to the mines for GNOME
[05:43] <oxygene_> deadly_venom, does the drive work on other machines?
[05:43] <SeraVitae> what the hell..
[05:43] <feross> SeraVitae: oh, it probably started a twm session
[05:44] <ChocoCid> and really the only difference is the game/settings toolbar
[05:44] <pike_> seamus7: im not sure of the specifics of how it works but it would then mount / as read only if there was a problem for instance if you needed root access to a comp you didnt know the password you could edit grub and type init=/bin/sh in the options then it would boot to a root shell but / would be read only you would then have to mount -o remount,rw /
[05:44] <deadly_venom> oxygene_: Yup, It is working in my Windows Machine, perfectly.
[05:44] <SeraVitae> feross - it's got a black hatched backround and one terminal window
[05:44] <GoldKeeper> hmm maybe im not using the add/remove programs thing rite
[05:44] <GoldKeeper> is there a package for ruby ?
[05:44] <ChocoCid> (other than the fact that kmine in general looks like something out of an old-as-heck version of windows, which is my opinion of KDE in general so meh)
[05:44] <feross> SeraVitae: yeah, SeraVitae twm, twm SeraVitae
[05:44] <SeraVitae> i was sorta hoping i could get access to the existing gnome session i had running.
[05:44] <rob> GoldKeeper: should be :)
[05:44] <GoldKeeper> it doesnt find one
[05:44] <SeraVitae> like the windows version of vnc
[05:44] <oxygene_> deadly_venom, do you have another cable to test?
[05:44] <rob> GoldKeeper: try searching with: apt-cache search ruby
[05:44] <DualCortex> Hey guys, I'm having a problem with gaim, 1.5.1cvs,  one one of my MSN accounts it just completely quits after it logs on. I'm even able to see the buddy list (for less than a second) anyone got any ideas on what may be causing the problem? Could it be a character from my buddies's nicknames?
[05:45] <darkaura> brb probibly with more questions
[05:45] <deadly_venom> oxygene_:  let me check..
[05:45] <myk3> hello
[05:45] <myk3> im trying to setup ubuntu on a compaq presario 1200 (12XL505) but i cant fine the propper sync ranges for the lcd where can i find thesE?
[05:45] <myk3> i cna run x but it only uses about 60% of the screen
[05:45] <rob> GoldKeeper: you will probably want ruby1.6
[05:45] <SeraVitae> myk3 - graphics card problems. happens on mine too
[05:45] <myk3> if i try to auto detect it fails and x doesnt boot
[05:46] <rob> GoldKeeper: or ruby1.9
[05:46] <Arafangion> myk3: Alternatively, try a different graphics driver (if available), or a specific resolution.
[05:46] <feross> SeraVitae: you have to fanagle the config files in .vnc tell it to execute gnome-session or similar. Can't rememeber exactly. Should be fairly easy to find on net.
[05:46] <myk3> i tried to use the trident but it would boot
[05:46] <lemonsCC> hello all
[05:46] <seamus7> pike_: so that sounds like that 'options' parameter is an intended parameter .... i thought (as a newbie) that it might be an indication of some sort of error
[05:46] <myk3> so now im useing vesa
[05:46] <myk3> and it boots x but only for 60% on the screen
[05:47] <myk3> kinda like a bad res
[05:47] <pike_> seamus7: mine has same entry
[05:47] <usux> hi
[05:47] <usux> ubuntu linux is basically shit
[05:47] <myk3> but if i comment out the lines in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (horizontal and vertical) it will use slightly more on the screen
[05:47] <seamus7> pike_: lol ... great now i don't have to obsess about that anymore ... thanks lol
[05:48] <hondje> usux: That's a topic more suited to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:48] <hondje> This is a support channel
[05:48] <pike_> feel the love man
[05:48] <pike_> ;p
[05:48] <lemonsCC> Question:  I have totem setup to do all the "restricted" formats on firefox, but can't play embedded mp3s.  Is there anyway to play them without messing up my current (totem) plugins?
[05:49] <usux> awsome new ubuntu site wowomg.com
[05:49] <myk3> when i try to use the trident driver it fails
[05:49] <myk3> what other driver can i use
[05:49] <myk3> besides vesa
[05:49] <myk3> ?>
[05:49] <myk3> and vga
[05:50] <Arafangion> myk3: vesa is extremely generic.
[05:50] <myk3> i know
[05:50] <myk3> and it works 60%
[05:50] <Arafangion> myk3: What vga chipset do you have?
[05:50] <liquidsilence> stupid wowomg.com
[05:50] <oxygene_> deadly_venom, I have to leave now. If using another port and cable (and avoiding usb hubs) doesn't help, it could be that either your pc's usb ports are defect or the harddrive itself
[05:50] <liquidsilence> neverrrr
[05:50] <myk3> trident
[05:50] <myk3> ummm
[05:51] <Arafangion> myk3: No, not "60%", your screen is simply stating the largest "vesa" resolution it can handle, and displaying that.
[05:51] <myk3> o ok
[05:51] <MotorCityMadMan> if i change my dns server in the resolv.conf file can ?/do you need to restart(shell Command to do so) or just saving the file works ?
[05:51] <liquidsilence> hey usux, YOU SUCKS
[05:51] <myk3> so it was at 1024x768
[05:51] <deadly_venom> oxygene_: what do you use ?
[05:51] <deadly_venom> gnome-volume-manager ?
[05:51] <myk3> so can i up it one more?
[05:51] <oxygene_> deadly_venom, what do you mean?
[05:51] <pike_> MotorCityMadMan: just saving works
[05:51] <deadly_venom> what applet do you use? to maange to usb drives ?
[05:52] <Arafangion> myk3: It's highly likely that your screen can't be fully utilized using only vesa resolutions - let me guess, you have a "wide" screen?
[05:52] <oxygene_> deadly_venom, the disk mounter applet
[05:52] <MotorCityMadMan> pike_: nice, ty
[05:52] <oxygene_> deadly_venom, but your problem is on a lower level
[05:52] <Arafangion> myk3: Which laptop do you have? (And how old is it?)
[05:52] <oxygene_> deadly_venom, the kernel has problems to communicate with the drive without problems
[05:52] <deadly_venom> what is the cmd for disk mounter applet ... apt-get install what? I wajnt to give it atry
[05:52] <Arafangion> usux didn't last lon.
[05:52] <Arafangion> *long
[05:53] <Arafangion> Hello_Kitty__: You *suck* at Utopia!
[05:53] <Arafangion> Hello_Kitty__: Seriously.
[05:53] <oxygene_> deadly_venom, most probably it won't help. i'm not sure if the disk mounter is there by default
[05:53] <GoldKeeper> huh ?
[05:53] <liquidsilence> im a windowz user shoot me
[05:53] <esfe> is there a way i can get ubuntu to prompt me about stuff as it starts
[05:53] <oxygene_> just right-click on your panel and select "add to panel"
[05:53] <Arafangion> liquidsilence: *bang*
[05:53] <esfe> like do u want to load this and that
[05:53] <oxygene_> look for the disk mounter in the "system & hardware" section then
[05:53] <Madpilot> liquidsilence, please stop trolling... thanks
[05:54] <Madpilot> esfe, prompt you about what?
[05:54] <esfe> maybe buy change boot stuff i grub?
[05:54] <myk3> ara= compaw presario 1200 model 12XL505
[05:54] <myk3> dont know how old
[05:54] <pike_> esfe: yes i dont remember the flag for that though..
[05:54] <lemonsCC> No help for mp3 plugin on forums or irc....
[05:54] <myk3> it came from a friend
[05:54] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell lemonsCC about mp3
[05:54] <esfe> Madpilot: well actually i want it not to cheack my harddisk for erros
[05:54] <esfe> errors
[05:54] <lemonsCC>  I have totem setup to do all the "restricted" formats on firefox, but can't play embedded mp3s.  Is there anyway to play them without messing up my current (totem) plugins?
[05:54] <esfe> pike_: i rember doining it in fedora
[05:55] <eegore> I am having issues with an asus A8N-E on board sound controller
[05:55] <unfknblvbl> is there a way to join PDFs in ubuntu ?
[05:55] <Madpilot> esfe, the fsck checks? It only does that about once every 30 boots, so once a month or so... is it really worth disabling?
[05:55] <hondje> lemonsCC: I'd install either totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin or totem-xine-firefox-plugin, depending on which is more appropriate
[05:56] <hondje> oh, misread :) Sorry
[05:56] <eegore> it seems that I can only have one app access the hw:0 controller at once. do I need an updated hardware driver to get the channels to work properly in dapper?
[05:57] <lemonsCC> Madpilot:  I already went through the restricted formats and got it all working nicely.  Everything except embedded mp3s
[05:57] <gtl> I'm having problems installing wine on my ubuntu x86_64
[05:57] <oxygene_> deadly_venom, I'm leaving now. bye
[05:57] <deadly_venom> oxygene_:  thanks for the help
[05:57] <deadly_venom> oxygene_:  bye
[05:57] <Arafangion> myk3: Ok, you have:  Trident CyberBlade 3D Graphics with 4 MB shared video memory (user-configurable to 2 MB, 4 MB or 8 MB)
[05:58] <lemonsCC> Madpilot:  I installed xmms and it is the default for mp3 files but I couldn't find anything about a firefox plugin
[05:58] <esfe> Madpilot: something gone wrong it won't stop checking
[05:58] <esfe> Madpilot: maybey my hd's got bad sectors or somthing but i don't care
[05:58] <myk3> ara yes
[05:58] <cpw> I seem to have a lot of packages in hold according to aptitude
[05:59] <cpw> anyway to unhold them all?
[05:59] <YBH_1> apt-get install windows-vista
[05:59] <deadly_venom> JUST CURIOUS, isn't dmesg the same as /var/log/messages ?
[05:59] <YBH_1> deadly_venom, C
[05:59] <Madpilot> lemonsCC, no idea, you should be glad you can't hear the random crap people install on their webpages ;)
[05:59] <Arafangion> myk3: Which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[05:59] <deadly_venom> YBH_1:  What ?
[05:59] <myk3> Arafangion when i try to use the trident driver x will freeze causeing a hard boot
[06:00] <Arafangion> myk3: This may be relevant: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/13101
[06:00] <myk3> 6.0.6
[06:00] <Madpilot> esfe, check the output of the next fsck run, it'll tell you if you've got bad sectors. Ignoring them doesn't sound like a good idea.
[06:00] <ChocoCid> so, is "localpurge" a bad program to run?
[06:00] <esfe> but i want too
[06:00] <sidny4> !flash
[06:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:00] <Arafangion> myk3: You could try the Edgy live cd, just to check it out.
[06:00] <YBH_1> Yes
[06:01] <pike_> esfe: have you tried the mplayer plugin instead?
[06:01] <YBH_1> ye sdmesg is messages log
[06:01] <Arafangion> myk3: If you're very lucky, it's a bug that's been fixed for edgy - but I doubt it.
[06:01] <sproingie> ChocoCid: i've run localepurge with no problems, but it's not really worth it unless you're really tight on space
[06:01] <pike_> esfe: sorry wrong nick
[06:01] <myk3> when i try to boot live on any distro without chooseing (safe mode) it freezes
[06:01] <deadly_venom> YBH_1:  can't i just go to /var/log/message rather than typing dmesg ?
[06:01] <YBH_1> Yes if it is readable by anyone except root
[06:02] <YBH_1> otherwise - > sudo texteditorenamehere /var/log/message
[06:02] <Arafangion> myk3: Does "any" include any bleeding edge distros?
[06:02] <ChocoCid> well, i am kinda tight on space due to dual booting on a 80 gig hard drive (with the "other" os full of bloat on the other partition)
[06:02] <myk3> i have tried
[06:03] <Arafangion> myk3: Which ones have you tried?
[06:03] <myk3> ubuntu, kubuntu, slax, slackware, xubuntu, ubuntu lite
[06:03] <Arafangion> myk3: Which *versions*?
[06:03] <ebrosius> tach
[06:03] <myk3> vector
[06:03] <myk3> latest of all
[06:03] <ebrosius> omg youre still here :D
[06:03] <Arafangion> myk3: Here, the issue is which VERSION of the xorg and graphics drivers.
[06:03] <myk3> let me say this
[06:03] <myk3> when i got the laptop it had pclinux on it
[06:03] <Arafangion> myk3: As I'm guessing, only the latest will work for you - alternatively, it's possible that it'll only work with xfree86 :(
[06:04] <Arafangion> myk3: Did that work?
[06:04] <myk3> xfree86?
[06:04] <myk3> yes pclinux was working
[06:04] <myk3> but i didnt want that
[06:04] <myk3> and then when i screwed it up i tried all 3 versions of that with the same result
[06:04] <myk3> black sreen
[06:05] <Arafangion> myk3: My guess is that only a very specific driver will work on your machine.
[06:05] <myk3> damn
[06:05] <Arafangion> myk3: Possibly only with xfree86, as opposed with xorg
[06:05] <myk3> is it going to be a trail process
[06:05] <myk3> how dod i do that?
[06:05] <Arafangion> myk3: Yes :(
[06:05] <myk3> im new to the linux world
[06:05] <myk3> trial
[06:05] <myk3> lol
[06:06] <pike_> myk3: try freebsd :)
[06:06] <myk3> ok
[06:06] <myk3> hopefully it will work
[06:06] <Arafangion> myk3: You're unfortunate in that you are using very difficult hardware.
[06:06] <myk3> lol
[06:06] <myk3> i know
[06:06] <Arafangion> pike_: What's that like with the graphics drivers?
[06:06] <myk3> i had ubuntu on my other laptop but broke
[06:07] <myk3> and i am going to buy another (newer) laptop hopefully soon
[06:07] <unfknblvbl> where can i go to learn about batch commands in the console ?
[06:07] <myk3> my toshiba broke main board went out after lightning hit it
[06:07] <Arafangion> myk3: Lightning, eh?
[06:07] <myk3> yea
[06:07] <myk3> pos
[06:07] <akano1n> how can i add ndiswrapper to modprobe ?
[06:07] <myk3> and it was oow
[06:07] <feross> unfknblvbl: lookup bash tutorial
[06:07] <myk3> OOW
[06:07] <unfknblvbl> cheerz
[06:08] <myk3> and im useing my wifes right now
[06:08] <myk3> an acer 7100
[06:08] <Arafangion> myk3: The best possible brand of graphics drivers you can get are NVidia, keep that in mind - but they are often expensive in laptops.
[06:08] <myk3> its nice
[06:08] <pike_> Arafangion: to be honest not sure. ive only been using it on my laptop for about 4 months and i was fortunate that everything just kind of worked. havent had to mess around too much with it
[06:08] <Arafangion> myk3: I've got an Acer V6V, it's rather nice.
[06:08] <myk3> cool
[06:08] <myk3> i work for acer no
[06:08] <myk3> now
[06:08] <Arafangion> pike_: The issue here is crap driver support for Trident.
[06:08] <myk3> for the past 6 months
[06:08] <myk3> in temple tx
[06:09] <eegore> for some strange reason, I can only have one app access the device at once
[06:09] <harrism> Please help with a problem I've encountered. When I restart my computer it hangs when it should load GRUB. I am actually running the live cd right now, is there anything I can do?
[06:09] <link_36p> Anyone here experienced with WLAN?
[06:09] <eegore> do I have to reconfigure alsa for the device change?
[06:09] <Arafangion> myk3: Well, the V6800V works rather well, everything works (Haven't tested bluetooth, or firewire, or infrared, or modem), but the ati card works with the ati drivers (download from website), and the card reader also works.
[06:10] <eegore> if so, how do I reset the alsa config
[06:10] <myk3> does ubuntu do good with amd 64 x2?
[06:10] <Arafangion> myk3: Asus's windows drivers suck, ironically.
[06:10] <myk3> i just bought a new desktop
[06:10] <myk3> lol
[06:10] <feross> link_36p: what's your question?
[06:10] <harrism> so can anyone help?
[06:10] <Arafangion> myk3: Infact, they suck so badly that it's faster to run windows in qemu than on the actual hardware itself, and I'm not exagerating.
[06:10] <myk3> wow
[06:10] <myk3> that does suck
[06:11] <myk3> well i think ill try agan tomarrow
[06:11] <myk3> thanks
[06:11] <ChocoCid> haha
[06:11] <myk3> for the help
[06:11] <w30> harrism, does it say grub somthing and then hang?
[06:11] <Arafangion> ChocoCid: I'm not kidding.
[06:11] <ChocoCid> i really should find my windows disk and set up qemu just so i can stick windows on face #4 of the cube and get rid of my windows partition entirely
[06:11] <Arafangion> ChocoCid: Using the "kqemu accellerator", mind you.
[06:11] <ChocoCid> i've just never worked with virtualization before at all, so...
[06:12] <Arafangion> ChocoCid: It's not virtualization.
[06:12] <link_36p> Well im trying to get it working on my laptop feross, i just did a fresh edgy install and there are two connections and i dont know wich is really my wifi, one is named "wifi0" and the network utility shoes packets going through it and the other is "ath0" showing no packets. I cant get a connection at all though.
[06:12] <harrism> w30: no, it hangs before it would usually get to that step
[06:12] <Arafangion> ChocoCid: qemu *emulates*
[06:12] <ChocoCid> er, ok
[06:12] <harrism> :/
[06:12] <ChocoCid> vmware virtualize
[06:12] <ChocoCid> +s
[06:12] <ChocoCid> and i'm not sure which one i want, nor why i would want either over the other
[06:12] <harrism> I have some java projects on my disk that was not backed up either
[06:12] <Arafangion> ChocoCid: VMware is more polished.
[06:12] <Arafangion> ChocoCid: But you have to purchase it in order to use it effectively.
[06:12] <link_36p> Feross where can i find a good guide to wifi'ing in ubuntu (ive already gone through wiki.ubuntu.com)
[06:13] <ChocoCid> ah, hrm
[06:13] <Arafangion> ChocoCid: VMware is also better on the graphics dept, but qemu + kqemu is arguably faster in other regards.
[06:13] <pike_> vmware server isnt bad and the serial is free with registration
[06:13] <ChocoCid> well, i don't really care about graphics
[06:13] <feross> link_36p: hmm, what do you see with iwconfig?
[06:13] <rga> alguem fala portugus e pode me ajudar?
[06:13] <tritium> !pt
[06:13] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:13] <Arafangion> ChocoCid: On the other hand, if you want true virtualization, take a look at Xen.
[06:13] <ChocoCid> !xen
[06:13] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[06:13] <ChocoCid> ooh, edgy :D
[06:13] <Arafangion> ChocoCid: Though, unless you have the specific hardware, you may have to live with mere paravirtualization.
[06:13] <Half-Left> some of my themes are broken in Edgy, any ideas?
[06:13] <Unity> is an actual install of ubuntu better than VMware ?
[06:13] <feross> link_36p: don't paste here, but you should see one that says something with IEEE in it.
[06:14] <Arafangion> ChocoCid: Paravirtualization, however, requires modifications to both host and guest, and as a result, you cannot run windows as a guest.
[06:14] <harrism> I don't mind reinstalling, but is there a way I can get my projects off the disk first?
[06:14] <Arafangion> Unity: Ha. :)
[06:14] <Ferret0547> Do you have to register on Ubuntu Forums to use this channel?
[06:14] <Arafangion> Unity: You're joking, right?
[06:15] <ChocoCid> Ferret0547 : no
[06:15] <Unity> nope
[06:15] <Unity> guy on my msn keeps on telling me to do clean install on hard disk instead of emulation im like why he's like just do it
[06:15] <Unity> hehe
[06:15] <w30> harrism, there is two parts to grub. first part is installed in the mbr and the second part is in /boot and maybe /boot/grub. If you have nothing then you probably have lost something in the mbr and if you have loading stage 1 or something like that and then it hangs you have got the grub on the mbr looking in the wrong place for /boot/grub
[06:15] <link_36p> feross: ya ath0 does in iwconfig its the olny one with a "wireless extention" so why doesnt it pick up any packages!!! :'(
[06:15] <ChocoCid> so uh, why does xen want me to make an initrd image of the linux kernel?
[06:15] <Arafangion> Unity: I don't mean to rude, but it's pretty much a "Duh" answer - yes, Ubuntu is better actually installed.
[06:15] <Arafangion> Unity: Assuming you have reasonable hardware.
[06:15] <Unity> k
[06:15] <ChocoCid> I would think i'd want to install windows there :\
[06:15] <link_36p> feross: packets*
[06:16] <ChocoCid> bleh, i'll figure out what i want to do regarding virtualization/emulation later
[06:16] <Arafangion> Unity: But...   If you have to use windows most of the time (I use Ubuntu most of the time), you _may_ be better off with continuing to run it in vmware, rather than living with dualbooting.
[06:16] <feross> link_36p: ok try  iwlist ath0 scanning   ... get the essid and I'll tell you what to put in your interfaces file
[06:17] <Arafangion> ChocoCid: Xen is currently unable to run windows, because it needs to modify the guest.
[06:17] <ChocoCid> ah, gotcha
[06:17] <ChocoCid> that's pointless then :P
[06:17] <harrism> I was actually trying to use wine, while installing a game everything got extremely slow.. my system locked up actually which I was amazed with so I rebooted to leave the process hang just before it would mention "grub"
[06:17] <Arafangion> ChocoCid: The magic with Xen is that it allows several OS's to run _natively_ on the hardware, without any emulation.
[06:17] <lemonsCC> Is there anyway to install mplayer plugin for specific file types?
[06:17] <w30> harrism, to repair grub you have to do the chroot bit with your harddrive installation. There should be help in the Ubuntu community documentation.
[06:17] <ChocoCid> i do not need to emulate linux within linux
[06:17] <Arafangion> ChocoCid: Xen doesn't.
[06:17] <ChocoCid> er, virtualize it
[06:17] <ChocoCid> w/e
[06:18] <harrism> you mean, I can access my hd still?
[06:18] <ChocoCid> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows  <-- harrism, use that
[06:18] <harrism> thanks a lot
[06:18] <ChocoCid> i'll probably look more into qemu
[06:18] <harrism> this live cd is a life saver
[06:18] <jeremy_c> anyone sucessfully installed Ubuntu in Parallels?
[06:19] <stephans_> OK - I have another stupid question... how do I tell a host to pass the hostname to the dhcp server... so it can register with DDNS?
[06:19] <DualCortex> Hey guys, I'm having a problem with gaim, 1.5.1cvs,  one one of my MSN accounts it just completely quits after it logs on. I'm even able to see the buddy list (for less than a second) anyone got any ideas on what may be causing the problem? Could it be a character from my buddies's nicknames?
[06:19] <ChocoCid> livecds tend to be, harrism
[06:19] <sidny4> !lirc
[06:19] <ubotu> lirc: Linux Infra-red Remote Control support. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.7.1pre2-11ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 271 kB, installed size 1440 kB
[06:20] <Arafangion> How do I adjust the sensitivity of my touchpad?
[06:20] <sidny4> anybody know how to use lirc?
[06:20] <Arafangion> I only have to HOVER over it to move the mouse or click.
[06:20] <Arafangion> Heck, I could put several layers of paper over it and still use it without any issue.
[06:20] <ChocoCid> haha
[06:20] <ChocoCid> uh, hold on
[06:20] <ChocoCid> is it a synatpic touchpad?
[06:20] <ChocoCid> *synaptic
[06:20] <darkaura> okay I got the Nvidia drivers from ubuntu installed
[06:21] <Arafangion> ChocoCid: I believe so.
[06:21] <w30> harrism, have you tried to start you Ubuntu installation from the live cd? there should be an option for that.
[06:21] <ChocoCid> step 1: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:21] <Arafangion> ChocoCid: Just tried it with four layers of paper.
[06:21] <ChocoCid> step 2: save a backup xorg.conf.old
[06:21] <ChocoCid> step 3... find something in there that looks relevant and make the number bigger :P
[06:21] <Arafangion> ChocoCid: What's the setting?
[06:22] <ChocoCid> oddly enough, i don't seem to have a relevant one in my xorg.conf
[06:22] <link_36p> feross: essid is "Hansell Manor""
[06:22] <ChocoCid> do you have the synaptics driver?
[06:22] <Arafangion> ChocoCid: I can't find any such setting.
[06:22] <harrism> yeah I did, and it just hanged :/
[06:22] <ChocoCid> yeah, googling now
[06:22] <feross> ChocoCid: shouldn't step 2 be step 1 ;) .. just sudo cp /ect/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11.xorg.conf.back
[06:22] <ChocoCid> eh, fair enough
[06:22] <feross> link_36p: ok hold a sec
[06:23] <Arafangion> feross: Actually, apt will back it up for you.
[06:23] <esfe> Madpilot: if fstab theres two numbers at the end of the hd line the last number is one
[06:23] <harrism> how can I paste the terminal output here? it is more than a few lines so I don't want to flood the channel
[06:23] <Arafangion> feross: Well, in this specific case, xorg is very hard to ruin. :)
[06:23] <Ferret0547> I had kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop packages installed and then I removed some stuff from them namely the usplash package
[06:23] <esfe> Madpilot: if you change the last number to 0 it stops checking
[06:23] <pike_> !paste > harrism
[06:23] <BeepAU> any gamers here? i download nexuiz, but i can't see how to install it.
[06:23] <Madpilot> esfe, cool, good to know. Add that to the Ubuntu wiki somewhere!
[06:23] <dream> ok i found the driver to my printer on dapper but it doesnt print as neat as windows
[06:23] <Ferret0547> This is on Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
[06:23] <esfe> Madpilot: aparterntly if you change it to 2 i asks you each tim
[06:23] <dream> is there a way to fix that?
[06:24] <esfe> yeah
[06:24] <DualCortex> Hey guys, I'm having a problem with gaim, 1.5.1cvs,  one one of my MSN accounts it just completely quits after it logs on. I'm even able to see the buddy list (for less than a second) anyone got any ideas on what may be causing the problem? Could it be a character from my buddies's nicknames?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:24] <esfe> :)
[06:24] <unfknblvbl> #gaim ?
[06:24] <Arafangion> DualCortex: What did I say earlier?
[06:24] <ChocoCid> what brand laptop is it?
[06:24] <DualCortex> Arafangion: IT DID come installed
[06:24] <harrism> !paste > testing testing :D
[06:24] <harrism> hmm
[06:24] <harrism> sorry
[06:24] <w30> harrism, that should bypass grub and find your kernel directly I think? Maybe grub is not your problem. Have you lost the boot flag on your hard drive or something like that?
[06:25] <esfe> Madpilot: found it in man fstab
[06:25] <pike_> dream: if you open firefox and goto localhost:631 under the admin link depending on the driver you might be able to adjust some things
[06:25] <Arafangion> DualCortex: Then, it's not 1.5.1cvs, it's 1.5.0+1.5.1cvs20051015-1ubuntu10 (On mine)
[06:25] <kishore> how to clean the temp files in linux
[06:25] <feross> link_36p: so in your /etc/networking/interfaces file you should have "iface ath0 inet dhcp\ wireless-essid "Hansell Manor" the "\" means those are two lines not all one line.. also you need to disable the networking applet for now.. go to it and select lo as the interface so it doesn't mess up anything.
[06:25] <Arafangion> DualCortex: Or you could just not be specific, and just say "The version in dapper".
[06:25] <hondje> kishore: define 'temp' files?
[06:26] <harrism> w30, I am really not sure but do not know how to find out
[06:26] <frodo> Hi All
[06:26] <kishore> hondje, i mean. when connected to internet some temp r stored somewhere na
[06:26] <frodo> i have a Q?
[06:26] <kishore> hondje, also during installation
[06:26] <DualCortex> Arafangion: if you don't have an answer then you might as well ........
[06:26] <feross> !ask > frodo
[06:26] <Ferret0547> I had kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop packages installed and then I removed some stuff from them namely the usplash package. Now, in GNOME and Xfce everytime I change the font size or font for "Application Font" absolutely nothing happens.
[06:26] <hondje> kishore: Your browser should have an option to 'clear the cache' in the menus
[06:26] <kishore> hondje, i heard some cmd "autoclean"
[06:27] <w30> harrism, I know that a MSWindows install likes to change the boot flag to whatever it calls drive C: I don't know what a program in wine could do?
[06:27] <kishore> ubotu, autoclean
[06:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autoclean - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:27] <frodo> where synaptic cashe the downloaded pakeges?
[06:27] <montablac> hey all
[06:27] <feross> Ferret0547: I had all three installed one time and it messes up big time. Just pick one :)
[06:27] <hondje> frodo: /var/cache/apt/archives
[06:27] <montablac> any one know of any good game devolment systems for linux?
[06:27] <harrism> hmm, yeah I think wine messed me up. My box was running perfectly just before that
[06:28] <hondje> kishore: that doesn't have anything to do with browsers :)
[06:28] <kishore> hondje, no temp folder in linux
[06:28] <harrism> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25945/
[06:28] <Arafangion> duckdown: I don't have an answer, but you're unlikely to get answers when you're asking about _specific_ versionf of gaim, that aren't installed by default.
[06:28] <kishore> ya.. may be
[06:28] <harrism> does that look ok?
[06:28] <hondje> kishore: yeah, for firefox it's probably inside $HOME/.firefox though
[06:28] <w30> harrism,sudo  fdisk /dev/hda should show you what is going on on your hard drive and partitions just hit m for menu and go from there.
[06:28] <hondje> but there's no 'everywhere' folder
[06:28] <Half-Left> montablac, You mean like Directx?
[06:28] <frodo> thank U !
[06:29] <harrism> ok thanks
[06:29] <montablac> no,like a c++ enviroment + compiler
[06:29] <Ferret0547> I'll pick ubuntu-desktop and just enough kubuntu stuff for kopete to run
[06:29] <w30> harrism, but don't write to the hard drive just look :=)
[06:29] <Mr> Hello
[06:30] <SeraVitae> hm
[06:30] <SeraVitae> i can't find what commands i need to use to connect an existing gnome-session to tightvnc.
[06:30] <harrism> which option should I choose on the menu? I am unsure as to what I am looking for
[06:30] <SeraVitae> i've googled, but it's all very ambiguous.
[06:30] <Mr> I downloaded Ubuntu alternate im trying to install it now im where it says Install in text mode,install OEM,Install a server which one do select
[06:31] <hondje> montablac: There are lots of IDEs available, but none specifically for game development afaik
[06:31] <Arafangion> montablac: Why would an IDE be specific to game development?
[06:31] <montablac> well,what would be considered the best one for ubuntu 6.06?
[06:31] <Arafangion> montablac: Define "best"
[06:31] <feross> SeraVitae: hmm vncviewer localhost:0  brings up  twm?
[06:31] <hondje> montablac: that's a matter of debate among people. Everyone has their preference
[06:32] <montablac> smallest and most stable
[06:32] <hondje> vim
[06:32] <SeraVitae> feross - im connecting from a windwos vnc box to a linux vnc server
[06:32] <hondje> hehe
[06:32] <ChocoCid> CALLED IT
[06:32] <Arafangion> montablac: I like vim 7.0, and make files, I say "The OS is the IDE", which it is.
[06:32] <w30> harrism, I think fdisk has (shows) a asterisk for a boot flag
[06:32] <SeraVitae> and yes, when i connect to the linux vnc server i get twm
[06:32] <ru> im trying to install synaptic
[06:32] <Arafangion> montablac: Others use emacs and say "Emacs is my OS, and Linux is my device driver".
[06:32] <ru> returns a failire:
[06:32] <ru> synaptic: Depends: libvte4 (>= 1:0.12.1)
[06:32] <Arafangion> montablac: Yet other swear by KDevelop.
[06:32] <ru> how do i forcefully install the version that it needs?
[06:32] <Mr> I downloaded Ubuntu alternate im trying to install it now im where it says Install in text mode,install OEM,Install a server which one do select?
[06:33] <montablac> im used to things like dev c++
[06:33] <Arafangion> montablac: Other fan clubs you could subscribe to are: Anjuta, Eclipse, etc.
[06:33] <harrism> i hit toggle a bootable flag and it wants an option 1 - 5, should I choose 1?
[06:33] <hondje> montablac: there are literally a hundred options man
[06:33] <hondje> developing on unix is .... well, kinda what it's for :)
[06:33] <Mr> can someone help me?
[06:33] <SeraVitae> ex
[06:33] <montablac> MR,do you want a sever?
[06:33] <Arafangion> montablac: Dev C++ seems like a rather primitive IDE to me.
[06:34] <Mr> I want the GUI
[06:34] <Mr> but its going to be a server
[06:34] <montablac> is it going to be sent to any one?
[06:34] <feross> SeraVitae: edit  ".vnc/xstartup" .. find twm in there and make it gnome-session .
[06:34] <SeraVitae> ok
[06:34] <Yggdrasil> hi folks. is there a way to edit mp3s. mostly jsut cropping them for cell phone ringtones ?
[06:34] <ajuki123> how do i change root password on ubuntu?
[06:34] <Arafangion> montablac: What do you mean?
[06:34] <Mr> no? im just installing it on one of my computers
[06:34] <sethk> Yggdrasil, mp3s are compressed.  you can't really edit compressed audio
[06:34] <sethk> ajuki123, sudo passwd
[06:34] <montablac> MR,try text install
[06:34] <Arafangion> montablac: Why don't you just install a few, and check them out?
[06:35] <DarkMageZ> Yggdrasil, try using audacity. it might do the trick 
[06:35] <Yggdrasil> bummer
[06:35] <Yggdrasil> kk
[06:35] <Mr> thanks
[06:35] <SeraVitae> feross - in /home/<user>/.vnc there's a line called xstartup, and there's no twm in there.
[06:35] <montablac> because i dont know what packages to get
[06:35] <Arafangion> DarkMageZ: Nice smilie!
[06:35] <sethk> Mr, text mode, because you had problems with the gui earlier, right?
[06:35] <Mr> yeah
[06:35] <Mr> I want the gui but the installation wasnt working
[06:35] <ajuki123> sethk, thanks
[06:35] <Arafangion> montablac: apt-get install anjuta kdevelop emacs vim build-essential eclipse
[06:35] <SeraVitae> oh wait. this is confusing.
[06:35] <SeraVitae> it was a dir. heh.
[06:35] <harrism> rather-> partition number (1-5)... I only have ubuntu on my hd so it would have to be 1 right?
[06:36] <w30> Yggdrasil, how do you change the ring tone on a cell phone? I hate my ring tones.
[06:36] <Arafangion> montablac: That installs "five" IDE's, though with eclipse, you'd still need to get the c++ plugin, as by default, it only does Java.
[06:36] <montablac> dont you mean sudo in front?
[06:36] <sethk> harrism, no, you may have swap partitions, you may have installed onto more than one partition
[06:36] <Arafangion> montablac: Yes.
[06:36] <SeraVitae> feross - there's no twm command in there.
[06:36] <montablac> ok
[06:36] <SeraVitae> x-window-manager though.
[06:36] <montablac> give me a minute,ill check it out
[06:36] <sethk> harrism, and the automatic partitioner sometimes makes an extended partition, and puts the swap partition in it, which is dumb, but what do you expect from a machine?
[06:37] <feross> SeraVitae: ok try comment that out and add gnome-session.
[06:37] <SeraVitae> yeah i just did
[06:37] <SeraVitae> i got some 'error in locking authority file /home/<usr>/.Xauthority
[06:37] <mikeh_> can anybody help me with a slow ubuntu system after it goes idle for a while
[06:37] <sethk> mikeh_, run top, see if anything is using up cpu
[06:37] <SeraVitae> that said though when i vnc'ed to it, i got TWM or whatever again, but the terminal open was the same as the terminal on the gnome box
[06:37] <Arafangion> montablac: Actually, it's eclipse-cdt
[06:38] <sethk> mikeh_, or other resources; top gives you a nice summary at the top
[06:38] <montablac> k
[06:38] <sethk> mikeh_, see if the % idle is dropping when it slows up
[06:38] <mikeh_> top shows that only 1% cpu and 10%ram is used when the computer gets super slow
[06:38] <feross> SeraVitae: ok hold a sec
[06:38] <sethk> mikeh_, hmm.  if you switch to a console, is the response normal?
[06:38] <mikeh_> i put in the boot parameters idle=poll
[06:39] <sethk> mikeh_, why did you do that?
[06:39] <ChocoCid> !qemu
[06:39] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[06:39] <Ferret0547> Console should never be slow
[06:40] <pike_> mikeh_: are you runnning ubuntu in virtual pc? :)
[06:40] <mikeh_> sethK; I have a Multiprocessor system and i heard that it helps SMC performance
[06:40] <cl187> ubuntu hates me
[06:40] <Ferret0547> I'm on 800mhz P3, i810e Integrated Graphics and USB 1.1
[06:40] <sethk> mikeh_, I'm skeptical about that.  plus, don't fix a problem unless you see it.
[06:40] <sethk> mikeh_, take that out, it's an unnecessary variable
[06:40] <mikeh_> the only thing that is super slow is the mouse and typing.  All programs and everything continues running like normal
[06:40] <Arafangion> montablac: So, what project do you intend to work on?
[06:41] <sethk> mikeh_, how can you know that if the mouse and typing are slow?
[06:41] <montablac> simple game devolment,and mostly port my first game to linux
[06:41] <feross> SeraVitae: do you have a System>prefs>remote desktop util?
[06:41] <Arafangion> montablac: 2D, or 3D?
[06:41] <montablac> 2d,text based
[06:41] <sethk> mikeh_, you can tell that, if you get fast response in a console, but otherwise, that's just an unwaranted assumption
[06:41] <SeraVitae> feross - yeah
[06:41] <Arafangion> montablac: What libs does it use?
[06:41] <SeraVitae> just checking it out now
[06:42] <feross> SeraVitae: ok that one should get you where you want to go :)
[06:42] <Arafangion> montablac: Could I have a look?
[06:42] <mikeh_> sethk:  when i finally get the cursor over to a program shortcut and click on it it starts up lightning fast and quits just as fast as if i just rebooted when the computer acts normal
[06:42] <montablac> ive got the game at school
[06:42] <SeraVitae> well, i ran it, it says starting remote desktop in the tray, then nothing happens.
[06:42] <montablac> along with the source
[06:42] <SeraVitae> it just dissapears.
[06:42] <sethk> mikeh_, that only means it has started responding again.  it says nothing about why it was slow.
[06:42] <Arafangion> montablac: Wow, no backup!
[06:42] <mikeh_> sethk:  it is just when the computer sits idle the only thing i see with super slow response is the cursor and the keyboard response
[06:42] <Arafangion> montablac: Which compiler are you using on windows?
[06:42] <feross> SeraVitae: it might be in conflict with the current vncserver ... turn off the one you set up manually
[06:42] <montablac> oh no,we have 3 severs at school,i backed it up on those
[06:43] <sethk> mikeh_, ok, it _may_ be that the only slow thing is the cursor and the keyboard, but it may not.
[06:43] <montablac> g++
[06:43] <suff0kate> whats a good mp3 audio cd burner
[06:43] <SeraVitae> feross - sure
[06:43] <mikeh_> sethk:  i agree.  it appears that is so.
[06:43] <Sandman> hey guys ive got a question that google cant seem to solve
[06:43] <Arafangion> montablac: Good, then you don't have to change your code that much - except for various libraries.  That compiler uses the standards quite well.
[06:43] <sethk> mikeh_, the reason I say that is that I suspect that you would have already solved your problem if your assumptions were correct.
[06:43] <Arafangion> montablac: msc does *wierd* things.
[06:43] <feross> SeraVitae: also, when you make the changes there it turns on the service and it doesn't leave anything in the task panel.
[06:44] <SeraVitae> feross - actually, i can't turn it off because my terminal won't open. "starting terminal....." and closes. like remote desktop.
[06:44] <SeraVitae> i think i might reboot.
[06:44] <sethk> mikeh_, so don't assume.  does it always slow up after a known amount of time?
[06:44] <Sandman> its not directly about ubuntu linux but about ssh on ubuntu
[06:44] <montablac> haha
[06:44] <Ferret0547> Errie SeraVitae
[06:44] <SeraVitae> Uhhhhhhhhhh. i don't have a shutdown or reboot option now.
[06:44] <Hitmanx> ehehe
[06:44] <Ferret0547> just go to a tty
[06:44] <montablac> all my libs are the stuff newbs use
[06:44] <sethk> mikeh_, if you know that it _always_ slows up after, say, 15 minutes idle, then put it in console mode, wait 15 minutes, and see what happens when you start typing
[06:44] <Mr> finally ubuntu is installing yay :)
[06:44] <Arafangion> montablac: Infact, they have about 3 different standards of C++ now, and their docs never say which one.
[06:44] <Sandman> yea sudo reboot will restart
[06:44] <suff0kate> whats a good recommended cd burner for .mp3 files?
[06:45] <SeraVitae> i'd do that if i could get to a console
[06:45] <feross> SeraVitae: doh! well you can go to terminal and "sudo reboot" right?
[06:45] <montablac> dam
[06:45] <Sandman> k3b works good
[06:45] <montablac> they need to sort it out
[06:45] <sethk> Mr, I told you about using text mode four hours ago.  if it is only installing now, it's because you waited four hours to try my suggestion  :)
[06:45] <SeraVitae> feross - the entire gnome session stopped responding
[06:45] <Mr> no
[06:45] <Mr> downloading
[06:45] <ChocoCid> haha
[06:45] <Arafangion> montablac: classic C++, Managed C++, and C++/CLI, which they just call C++, much to the annoyance of the C++ standards committie.
[06:45] <ChocoCid> dialup :(
[06:45] <Mr> u told me that 2 hours ago
[06:45] <sethk> Mr, I know, I'm teasing you
[06:45] <mikeh_> sethk i will and i will get back to you.
[06:45] <Ferret0547> SeraVitae, just go to a tty and then login and type "sudo reboot" or "sudo shutdown -r now"
[06:45] <Mr> lol
[06:45] <feross> SeraVitae:  do ctr+alt+backspace
[06:45] <SeraVitae> yeah that's what i did
[06:45] <montablac> lol
[06:45] <mikeh_> sethk:  if it does what else should i try
[06:45] <montablac> im usin clasic
[06:45] <Sandman> hey anyone good with ssh?
[06:45] <SeraVitae> yeah, it freaked out a bit trying to stop the gnome dm
[06:46] <sethk> mikeh_, you mean if you don't see the slowdown?
[06:46] <feross> Sandman: I'm aswsome with it
[06:46] <mikeh_> sethk:  if i do see  the slow down
[06:46] <darkaura> what is the best program to use for playing dvds?
[06:46] <pike_> suff0kate: application? i use k3b
[06:46] <montablac> but i want to learn how to incorpate assembler into my code
[06:46] <Sandman> lol ty
[06:46] <mikeh_> darkaura:  ogle
[06:46] <sethk> mikeh_, I'd start looking at all the power save settings and options.
[06:46] <Sandman> how can i connect to /dev/tty0 instead of /dev/pts/tty4
[06:46] <sethk> mikeh_, they are known to be questionable in the first place, and, since it happens when the box is idle, ...
[06:46] <Arafangion> montablac: There is practically little point in incorporating assembler into code.
[06:46] <Sandman> im clueless
[06:47] <darkaura> and I don't need that one libss or whatever file installed?
[06:47] <mikeh_> sethk:  i have a boot option in grub to apm=off and no acpi
[06:47] <montablac> its for simple VGA programing
[06:47] <mikeh_> sethk that is noacpi
[06:47] <sethk> Sandman, why would you care about which one you connect to?
[06:47] <Mr> if i really like ubuntu im going to get it on my laptop isnt here a way to partition a harddrive without formatting it?
[06:47] <sethk> mikeh_, those don't always work, unfortunately.
[06:47] <Arafangion> montablac: Why do you want to do "simple VGA programming"?
[06:47] <sethk> mikeh_, for example, many boxes will still put the screen into power save mode, even if those are all turned off.
[06:47] <mikeh_> sethk:  how else do i turn off APM
[06:47] <Sandman> i want to have a counter strike server running in a tty so can easily connect and do direct commands
[06:47] <montablac> as an introduction to GFX programing
[06:48] <Arafangion> montablac: Just use SDL
[06:48] <sethk> mikeh_, rebuild the kernel with the options off, or possibly rmmod the modules, if they are modules and not compiled in.
[06:48] <montablac> sdl?
[06:48] <Arafangion> montablac: GFX programming is all about blits and meshes.
[06:48] <darkaura> and what should I install for divx window media realplayer quick time and such playback?
[06:48] <mikeh_> sethk_, how do i rmmod the modules.  I am relatively new at this
[06:48] <sethk> mikeh_, we don't really have any data saying it is a power save problem, so let's try to get more data first.
[06:48] <Arafangion> montablac: No need to delve into the guts of the hardware.
[06:48] <montablac> hehe
[06:48] <Arafangion> montablac: SDL is a 2D graphics library, very suitable for games.
[06:48] <mikeh_> sethk:  alright i will get back to ya
[06:48] <sethk> mikeh_, lsmod will show you what modules are loaded.   you can remove a module using the command    rmmod module_name
[06:48] <montablac> where can i learn this?
[06:49] <Arafangion> montablac: If you want 3D, try OpenGL.
[06:49] <montablac> na
[06:49] <sethk> mikeh_, you do that at a command prompt, and you have to be root to insert or remove modules.
[06:49] <wickedpuppy> montablac, i also should mention there are already open source game engines ... no need to learn ..
[06:49] <montablac> 2D first,then 3D
[06:49] <Arafangion> montablac: 2D is wholly different to 3D ;)
[06:49] <montablac> open source games engines are good,but i want to learn programing
[06:49] <montablac> i know
[06:50] <wickedpuppy> montablac, you mean with game engines you don't need to program ?
[06:50] <Arafangion> montablac: Check out pyGame, I have never used it, but it seems to be quite good.
[06:50] <mikeh_> sethk: which module would it be
[06:50] <montablac> but the guts are 2D is easer
[06:50] <Arafangion> montablac: Incorrect.
[06:50] <Ferret0547> I'm going to leave IRC to remove xubuntu-desktop packages and as much of kubuntu-desktop as possible enough to allow kopete to run
[06:50] <montablac> oh?
[06:51] <Ferret0547> Because having all three messes everything up
[06:51] <Arafangion> montablac: Take a look at SDL, it's nearly the only sane choice of library for 2D games.
[06:51] <sethk> mikeh_, I'll have to look up the module names.  Give me a few minutes, I have to walk a dog first.
[06:52] <montablac> i will,but first i goda learn where to learn it
[06:52] <sethk> mikeh_, if you have kernel source installed, you can run    make xconfig       (not to actually compile the kernel, just to see what the options are)
[06:52] <sethk> mikeh_, when you highlight an option, the corresponding module name appears in the help window.
[06:52] <mikeh_> sethk: will you still be here in a half hour
[06:52] <sethk> mikeh_, probably, unless I get diverted with some paying support.
[06:52] <Arafangion> montablac: http://www.libsdl.org/index.php
[06:53] <SeraVitae> feross - remote desktop thingy worked. but it uses a different port again
[06:53] <SeraVitae> oh nice, it uses the default vnc port. all working now :D
[06:53] <SeraVitae> thanks!
[06:53] <montablac> dam im unluckey
[06:53] <mikeh_> sethk: when i type make xconfig i get make *** no rule to make target xconfig
[06:53] <Arafangion> montablac: How so?
[06:53] <motin> What sort of hash is used to generate passwords - more specifically the vino-server password? vino-preferences need X and i need to reset my password through ssh/cli
[06:54] <unlucky1> does anyone know anything about bcm43xx
[06:54] <montablac> two words that strike feer into he hesarts of men
[06:54] <montablac> hearts*
[06:54] <montablac> DIAL UP
[06:54] <Arafangion> montablac: What?
[06:54] <montablac> im on dial up
[06:55] <Arafangion> montablac: So?
[06:55] <mikeh_> sethk:  also, i am using the 2.6.15-23-686 because i get a kernel panic with smp on the 2.6.15-27-686 kernel.  any reason that might be?
[06:55] <montablac> i goda get 150+ MB of soft ware and libs
[06:55] <montablac> and port it all through a 56k conection
[06:56] <Arafangion> montablac: What are you installing?
[06:56] <feross> SeraVitae: ok, guess we should have used that from the getgo.
[06:56] <Arafangion> montablac: Also, if this were Visual Studio, that'd be 3G ;)
[06:56] <montablac> all that soft ware you recomended,along with the dependacys
[06:57] <Arafangion> montablac: Try without eclipse.
[06:57] <unlucky1> when you add lines to rc.allow are they automatically allowed root access?
[06:57] <montablac> ok
[06:57] <mini_gamer1896> a question, i upgraded to edgy last night, and my wifi card stopped being recognized (the only net connection for it; it worked fine under drapper).  These error codes show up during boot whenever i have it plugged in """ firmware_helper[2777] : main: error loading '/lib/firmware/acx/default/tiacx100' for device '/class/firmware/0000:02:00.0' with driver 'acx_pci' """ & """ firmware_helper[2751] : m
[06:57] <mini_gamer1896> ain: error loading '/lib/firmware/acx/default/tiacx100c0D' for device '/class/firmware/0000:02:00.0' with driver 'acx_pci' """  Also, there is another error code that pops up whenever i boot (i didn't get this with dapper either): """ [17179592.452000]  piix4_smbus 0000:00:07.3: IBM Laptop detected; this module may corrupt your serial eeprom! Refusing to load module! """
[06:57] <Arafangion> mini_gamer1896: STOP.
[06:57] <Arafangion> mini_gamer1896: Read /topic
[06:57] <mini_gamer1896> duh, sry
[06:58] <Arafangion> mini_gamer1896: Additionally, see #ubuntu+1
[06:58] <mini_gamer1896> quiet
[06:58] <mini_gamer1896> as is #kubuntu
[06:59] <Arafangion> Edgy is still developmental, isn't it?
[06:59] <mini_gamer1896> yes, in b stage though
[06:59] <SeraVitae> hm, if i want to automatically set the owner/group of everything in a mountpoint
[07:00] <suff0kate> K3B - cdrecord has no permission to open the device, you may use k3bsetup2 to solve this problem? what do i do?
[07:00] <SeraVitae> why wouldnt this work, in /etc/fstab
[07:00] <SeraVitae> /dev/hdb1 /mnt/stuff ext3 rw,gid=1000,uid=1000,auto 0 0
[07:00] <SeraVitae> as soon as i mount it even with the user 1000 it changes back to root/root ownership
[07:00] <feross> SeraVitae: you could  "chown -R user:group /directory/tochange/"
[07:01] <montablac> sweet,very little to DL now
[07:02] <SeraVitae> feross - yeah, okay, that worked. thanks
[07:02] <Arafangion> montablac: Eclipse is a monster.
[07:02] <montablac> so i noticed
[07:02] <Arafangion> montablac: But it has it's fan club. :)
[07:02] <pike_> suff0kate: well you could do sudo k3b but im not sure thats the solution you wanted..
[07:02] <montablac> lol
[07:02] <suff0kate> how come i can't burn a cd with any of my progs?
[07:03] <suff0kate>  /usr/bin/X11/cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris.
[07:03] <suff0kate> scsidev: '1,0,0'
[07:03] <suff0kate> scsibus: 1 target: 0 lun: 0
[07:03] <suff0kate> Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)... retrying in 1 second.
[07:03] <suff0kate> is what i get
[07:03] <Arafangion> suff0kate: STOP
[07:03] <Arafangion> suff0kate: See /topic
[07:03] <suff0kate> that doesn't help me and im sorry i didn't mean to spam
[07:04] <Arafangion> suff0kate: I believe it mentions a pastebin
[07:04] <pike_> suff0kate: youre on edgy?
[07:04] <suff0kate> what does that mean?
[07:04] <Tru7h> Could anybody give a brief explanation as to how I could go about imaging my USB flash drive with Ubuntu, then booting it from the flash drive?
[07:04] <suff0kate> k3b
[07:04] <Mr> can someone link me to the rules or the channel
[07:04] <rob> !rules
[07:04] <suff0kate> is what i'm using
[07:04] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:04] <suff0kate> i get the same error with every audio burning software
[07:04] <suff0kate> and i installed all the plugins
[07:05] <Arafangion> suff0kate: Why don't you just drag your files to your CD and click on 'Burn image" or whatever it's called?
[07:05] <feross> Tru7h: I think you should try DSL for that. just boot it and do F2 or F3 to see what the option is to boot in install moe
[07:06] <pike_> suff0kate: if you type groups in a terminal are you a member of cdrom?
[07:06] <suff0kate> will that make the audio cd?
[07:06] <suff0kate> yea
[07:06] <suff0kate> suff0kate adm dialout cdrom
[07:06] <suff0kate> so its there
[07:07] <Tru7h> feross: I was thinking of using DSL as well, but do you know if I can get Ubuntu on there instead?
[07:07] <jimFL> Greetings all. Ubuntu newbie - how to start desktop in Ubuntu Dapper Drake server from cmd prompt after logging in?
[07:07] <pike_> suff0kate: and youve got the libk3b2-mp3 package installed?
[07:07] <suff0kate> yea
[07:08] <andrew__1> Hey pals, I just rebooted my server and now mysql has the error "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111)"
[07:08] <feross> Tru7h: maybe with the livecd.. does the alternate iso of ubuntu mention anything like that
[07:08] <pike_> suff0kate: and sudo k3b gives same error or works?
[07:08] <Flannel> !tell Tru7h about install
[07:08] <_grego_> hi all
[07:08] <Mr> the alternate iso works perfect for me
[07:08] <Tru7h> feross: I dunno, I can't get my LiveCD to work on my computer.
[07:08] <Flannel> Tru7h: that talks about a bunch of methods to install/boot
[07:08] <Mr> I could help u with that
[07:09] <Mr> lol
[07:09] <Tru7h> Thanks, Flannel.
[07:09] <Mr> been online all day having that problem
[07:09] <Mr> what is it doing when you reboot with the cd in the drive?
[07:09] <Flannel> Tru7h: might not cover USB, I know it covers installing from USB though.  Oh, and installing to an external HD... that might be your best lead
[07:09] <Mr> why cant he just burn the image to a cd?
[07:10] <Squee> Is there any simple way to set up an irc server?
[07:10] <Arafangion> Mr: He wants to do an audio CD.
[07:10] <_grego_> to play rm/ram audio files, i installed the linux version of realplayer 10 but when i play an audio file, i have an error about the audio device (it seems allready use by an other application). How to resolv this ?
[07:10] <Mr> ooo
[07:10] <Tru7h> I can't boot anything on my computer from a CD, the master drive isn't functional.
[07:10] <wickedpuppy> master drive is the cdrom ?
[07:10] <Mr> ooo
[07:11] <suff0kate> pike_: sudo k3b worked thank you so much i've been trying to figure it out all day thank you
[07:11] <Tru7h> I have two CD drives. The one that boots CDs is the one that doesn't work.
[07:11] <Mr> im not sure but wouldnt you go into BIOs and switch what it checks first
[07:11] <Mr> ?
[07:11] <_grego_> or may be it exist other solutions to play rm/ram audio files ?
[07:12] <Mr> I know my computer has a setting like 1st Boot - Cd rom drive 2nd - hard drive
[07:12] <pike_> suff0kate: np you shouldnt have to use it but its a problem ive had before as well
[07:12] <harrism> ok I seriously have my boot loader messed up. Each time I boot now it goes into a grub menu. The same menu you get from typing grub in a terminal window. Can someone please tell me how to re-install the grub boot loader?
[07:12] <andrew__1> Hey pals, I just rebooted my server and now mysql has the error "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111)" I'm using Ubuntu 6.06 and mysql-4.1
[07:12] <adrian__> HOLA
[07:13] <adrian__> COMO PUEDO BAJAR EL MESSANGER EN UBUNTU SI ESTA TODO MUY PROTEJIDO
[07:13] <wickedpuppy> Tru7h, kindly do as Mr suggested :P
[07:13] <harrism> anyone? :/
[07:13] <wickedpuppy> !es
[07:13] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:13] <cool_nick> harrism: on which drive do you have ubuntu?!?
[07:14] <Tru7h> Mr: I've looked through my BIOS. There's only one option for CD booting.
[07:14] <pike_> man its 1am
[07:14] <harrism> I guess the default during installation, hda1? I only have one hard drive, one partition for ubuntu
[07:15] <Jesse1984> harrism: i have a similar problem, my gub is all up shit creek, i need to re-install or reset it or something..
[07:15] <cool_nick> harrism: try this
[07:15] <Jesse1984> gub=grub Oops
[07:15] <cool_nick> harrism: sudo grub install no--floppy
[07:15] <harrism> i'm using the live cd right now
[07:15] <harrism> ok I will try
[07:15] <Flannel> !tell Jesse1984 about grub
[07:15] <cool_nick> harrism: do you have any other os?
[07:16] <Squee> Does anyone here know hwo to set up an IRC server?
[07:16] <andrew__1> google.com
[07:16] <Flannel> Squee: I imagine theres an irc server in the repositories
[07:16] <harrism> no, just ubuntu
[07:16] <Squee> flannel: there is but i have no idea how to set it up
[07:16] <wickedpuppy> Squee, search in synaptic for irc server
[07:16] <harrism> ok, I am at a grub menu now
[07:16] <cool_nick> harrism: mount the drive first and then try the command. . .
[07:16] <Flannel> tell harrism
[07:16] <Flannel> ack
[07:16] <asdef> a nice c++ editor for xubuntu ?
[07:16] <Flannel> !tell harrism about grub
[07:16] <wickedpuppy> Flannel, yes there is ... including the freenode irc server :P
[07:16] <asdef> i've to subst some code from a header file
[07:17] <darkaura> how do I play dvds with totem?
[07:17] <Squee> !ircd-Hybrid
[07:17] <AlienX> darkaura, you need to have libdvdcss installed. Check the wiki
[07:17] <wickedpuppy> Squee, kindly get it from the repo ... btw dancer and hyperion also not bad
[07:17] <Flannel> Squee: the wiki might have info on a IRC server, you might check that, if not... google, or whichever server you choose might have a support channel here, and stuff.
[07:17] <harrism> when I do-> sudo mount /dev/hda1 it says it cannot find it.. but I mounted it like this before when the problem first came up..
[07:18] <Arafangion> asdef: Define "Nice"
[07:18] <ohoel> does anyone remember what the front row/media centre-ish app by the fluendo guys is called?
[07:18] <Squee> alright, thanks
[07:18] <asdef> Arafangion: something like kwrite, but without kde and stuff
[07:18] <asdef> something like textpad for win32
[07:18] <ohoel> ah, elisa
[07:18] <Flannel> asdef: mousepad... I think it's called
[07:18] <Arafangion> asdef: Why don't you, you know, pick one? There are billions of choices.
[07:18] <cool_nick> harrism: do you have a SATA drive?
[07:18] <asdef> i always think anything i do could be done better
[07:18] <harrism> no, it's an IDE
[07:19] <asdef> i use design patterns if there are some
[07:19] <harrism> on master, just one hd
[07:19] <Flannel> asdef: mousepad is the xubuntu text editor
[07:19] <asdef> ok thanks
[07:19] <Gabby_Hayes> harrism   does  fdisk /dev/hda  work?
[07:19] <Arafangion> asdef: My favorite is vim 7.0
[07:19] <asdef> Arafangion: i use jed for console apps
[07:19] <cool_nick> harrism: sudo fdisl -l
[07:19] <harrism> it is waiting for a command now
[07:19] <Arafangion> asdef: Does jed have a spell checker? ;)
[07:20] <AlienX> vim 7.0 checks for spelling?
[07:20] <harrism> ok so exit this?
[07:20] <cool_nick> harrism: yep
[07:20] <Arafangion> AlienX: Yes.
[07:20] <AlienX> Arafangion, sweet!
[07:20] <asdef> Arafangion: to write code i use eclipse or visual studio
[07:20] <asdef> they have
[07:20] <Arafangion> AlienX: So does vim 6, actually, but vim 7 is much better.
[07:21] <darkaura> the weird thing is I do have Libdvdcss2 and libdvdread3 installed
[07:21] <harrism> ok it shows dev/hda1 with the asterisk
[07:21] <Arafangion> AlienX: Heck, vim 7 has *tabs*
[07:21] <AlienX> Arafangion, i'm just "old school" I guess :)
[07:21] <cool_nick> harrism: the command you used to mount plase. . .
[07:21] <Flannel> Gabby_Hayes: believe Xchat has a spell checker extension doohickey.  I know others do.
[07:21] <Arafangion> AlienX: Me too, but I'm not past recognising improvements. :)
[07:21] <harrism> sudo mount /dev/hda1
[07:21] <asdef> vim is a pain in the ass to write large projects
[07:21] <asdef> with uml diagrams and stuff
[07:21] <Arafangion> asdef: How so?
[07:21] <harrism> mount:can't find .. it says
[07:21] <asdef> multiple classes etc.
[07:21] <AlienX> Arafangion, heh, I'll have to read up on this spell checking and tabs stuff ;)
[07:21] <cool_nick> harrism: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/
[07:22] <harrism> ok that worked
[07:22] <harrism> :D
[07:22] <harrism> now reinstall grub?
[07:22] <cool_nick> harrism: now use the command which i gave you earlier. . .
[07:23] <ChocoCid> !edgy
[07:23] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:23] <Gabby_Hayes> thxs  Flannel
[07:23] <ChocoCid> !schedule
[07:23] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[07:23] <jason_> ohh speaking of grub, maybe I just missed the answer to the question I have.
[07:23] <harrism> grub install no--floppy   <- this one?
[07:23] <cool_nick> harrism: yep
[07:23] <cool_nick> harrism: don't forget sudo
[07:23] <ozzloy> is there a way for me to connect to someone's itunes share on ubuntu?
[07:23] <jason_> err opps guess I need to go to the edgy channel sorry
[07:24] <harrism> ok, I did sudo grub install no--floppy    and it took me to the grub menu
[07:24] <harrism> grub>
[07:24] <cool_nick> harrism: root (hd0,0)
[07:25] <ArrenLex> Is there a command to print the full path of a file? i.e. for a file "/tmp/dir/file", if you're in /tmp/dir, how can you get <command> file = /tmp/dir/file?
[07:25] <AlienX> ozzloy, not to the best of my knowledge
[07:25] <harrism> Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
[07:25] <cool_nick> harrism: setup (hd0)
[07:25] <MrJones> hello this is Mr still i dont know my name is in use
[07:26] <AlienX> MrJones, do you have your nick registered?
[07:26] <Gabby_Hayes> can anyone find  sun-java5-jre  on any repository?  (have the universe and multiverse in /etc/apt/sources.list  ... couldn't find it.
[07:26] <harrism> checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists yes... a few more "exists yes" then is says "succeeded" next it states "running install" and it says "succeeded done"
[07:26] <rredd4> when i try to get into winecfg in console, i get this...   err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!  and this     Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.  Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.  sorry, no one in #winehq is answering me.  i use dapper
[07:26] <MrJones> I like Ubuntu alot so far umm i use my tv as my monitor and when i run a program like the bottom is cut off
[07:26] <MrJones> no not YET
[07:26] <cool_nick> harrism: exit, reboot and enjoy :)
[07:26] <ArrenLex> Gabby: multiverse.
[07:26] <AlienX> Gabby_Hayes, apt-cache search sun-java :)
[07:27] <harrism> :D thanks a ton, you just saved all my data structure projects + java GUI projects for school!
[07:27] <feross> ArrenLex: find gives you full path.
[07:27] <ArrenLex> rredd4: are you trying to run winecfg as root?
[07:27] <cool_nick> harrism: new to ubuntu?
[07:27] <Arafangion> harrism: No backups?
[07:27] <harrism> well, I had it on a flash, but didn't back it up because i recently saved a ton of photos on it
[07:28] <ArrenLex> feross: with what arguments? I tried find. "find file" in /tmp/dir yields "file"
[07:28] <tj_> whats the best way to back up an entire partition (or all the files within)
[07:28] <harrism> I was planning on getting an external hd for backup
[07:28] <rredd4> ArrenLex yes
[07:28] <feross> ArrenLex:  find /tmp/dir -name filename -print
[07:28] <Gabby_Hayes> AlienX  .. returns  nothing  :-(
[07:28] <Gabby_Hayes> even after an update
[07:28] <harrism> I just built my new machine and installed ubuntu, ran into problems with the boot loader after trying to install diablo 2 in wine
[07:28] <AlienX> harrism, make sure that if you do that, the drive is formatted as fat32 or ext2
[07:29] <AlienX> Gabby_Hayes, do you have multiverse in your sources.list?
[07:29] <harrism> does not like NTFS?
[07:29] <ArrenLex> rredd4: well stop it.
[07:29] <rredd4> ohh?
[07:29] <cool_nick> harrism: reiserfs is aleays better. .
[07:29] <tj_> alienx: can't you just copy the partition, and have it keep the same everything?
[07:29] <MrJones> is there a way to fix my problem?
[07:29] <AlienX> harrism, nope, the write support to ntfs is bad
[07:29] <asdef> deadbeef@deadbeef-desktop:~$ gaim
[07:29] <asdef> Gaim has segfaulted and attempted to dump a core file.
[07:29] <asdef> This is a bug in the software and has happened through
[07:29] <asdef> no fault of your own.
[07:29] <asdef> is this normal ?
[07:29] <AlienX> tj_, what are you referring to?
[07:30] <darkaura> Gabby_Hayes - here is something that might help http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation&Itemid=38
[07:30] <harrism> will remember that, going to reboot now, thanks again
[07:30] <ChocoCid> !automatix
[07:30] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[07:30] <tj_> alienx: the backing up files on external hd
[07:30] <ChocoCid> from what i understand, people in here don't like automatix very much
[07:30] <Flannel> darkaura: do not recommend automatix here.
[07:30] <ChocoCid> because it's unsafe
[07:30] <ChocoCid> !easyubuntu
[07:30] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[07:30] <ChocoCid> probably want that instead
[07:30] <Gabby_Hayes> AlienX    yes:   deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[07:30] <Squee> What is the benifit of using gksudo for gui programs?
[07:31] <AlienX> tj_, doesn't do much good if you can't write to the drive
[07:31] <ChocoCid> safer
[07:31] <Gabby_Hayes> thxs  darkaura
[07:31] <AlienX> Gabby_Hayes, weird.
[07:31] <Gabby_Hayes> brb
[07:31] <ChocoCid> i think if you use sudo for gui programs, it doesn't exit sudo when you exit the program
[07:31] <rredd4> ArrenLex trying to do this     If you have problems, edit your ~/.wine/config file to add the following lines in the bottom of your config file:  [AppDefaults\\paltalk.exe\\DllOverrides]   comctl32"="native"  commctrl"="native"  "riched20"="native"  "riched32"="native"
[07:31] <ChocoCid> which means you're still root'ed when you shouldn't be
[07:31] <AlienX> Gabby_Hayes, you've run apt-get update recently, right?
[07:31] <ChocoCid> i think there's more though
[07:31] <Half-Left> Squee, I thought that was obvious
[07:31] <ChocoCid> for what it's worth, though, a lot of stuff says to do sudo gedit, so...
[07:32] <rredd4> ArrenLex   so how do i get into wine config?
[07:32] <MrJones> Ok im about to need alot of help now i want to install ubuntu on my laptop my laptop harddrive is stepup as 104GB partition 1 and 16GB recovery partition 2 so is there a way i can make a partition 3 without formatting any of them so i can run ubuntu
[07:32] <raiXer> i installed an update for xkeyboard and now i get this message everytime i log in to gnome "Error activating XKB configuration.".  is there anything to fix it?
[07:32] <johan1> Can anyone tell me where I change the default settings for applications for sound and video PLZ?
[07:32] <darkaura> I installed gxine and now I can play dvds fine
[07:32] <Squee> oh ok that makes sense thanks chococid
[07:32] <ajuki123> i cant change my root password. i used the sudo passwd and it said it changed but then when ubuntu asks the root password just the old one works
[07:32] <feross> Squee: you mean gksu ... in any case, it's good for using in shortcuts because it brings up a nice ui.. other than that it's the same.. you can run sudo gedit from the termininal or gksu and it will still come up as root..
[07:32] <deadly_venom> MrJones: are you on windows ?
[07:32] <amaethon> system>Preferences
[07:32] <ArrenLex> feross: that works if you know what directory you're in. What if you don't? The user specifies the string /bin/ping. There's no point in searching for that string in /tmp; it's already a complete path. How do I determine that?
[07:32] <AlienX> MrJones, use gparted and you can do it but i'd suggest backing up your data
[07:33] <MrJones> yeah
[07:33] <ChocoCid> you can make the partitions smaller
[07:33] <ArrenLex> rredd4: just run winecfg as normal user.
[07:33] <deadly_venom> MrJones:  use  partition magic
[07:33] <tj_> mr jones: use the live cd, from withing run gparted, then resize the partition fo choice
[07:33] <ChocoCid> that's actually one of the options in the installer
[07:33] <rredd4> ArrenLex   ok
[07:33] <MrJones> damn
[07:33] <rramos> Hi every one
[07:33] <MrJones> is there a program that doesnt delete my data
[07:33] <MrJones> because i dont feel like backing up
[07:33] <feross> ArrenLex: if you do "find / -name filenameorexpression -print
[07:33] <MrJones> that could take a day or 2
[07:33] <ChocoCid> heh
[07:33] <ChocoCid> i didn't back up my windows
[07:33] <AlienX> MrJones, nothing is 100% safe
[07:33] <ArrenLex> feross: that would require searching the entire filesystem!!
[07:34] <ChocoCid> as long as you're smart enough to NOT check "format" you should be fine
[07:34] <Gabby_Hayes> yes, AlienX  ..... especially when the apt-get install starts to get slow
[07:34] <rramos> how can i acces a tape drive connected to de floppy bus ?
[07:34] <rramos> how can i acces a tape drive connected to de floppy bus ?
[07:34] <Yggdrasil> how do tell what process is using one of my drives ... its kind of crashed i want to remount it
[07:34] <MrJones> so like thats the chance of me losing my data
[07:34] <bug_> i came into this late.. what's the question about partitioning/installing?
[07:34] <johan1> My TOTEM doesn't work so I want to set another program as Default audio/video player - where do I set default programs PLZ???
[07:34] <feross> ArrenLex: I don't understand what you need then...
[07:34] <ChocoCid> when partitioning? probably like 1%
[07:34] <AlienX> Gabby_Hayes, hmm that seems really weird to me. It should be working just fine. Maybe one of the repos is out of sync?
[07:34] <ChocoCid> your hard drive would have to fail in order for you to lose your data, i believe
[07:34] <MrJones> o so I think i might take that chance
[07:35] <ChocoCid> at the least, i suggest defragging before partitioning if you haven't done it in a while
[07:35] <AlienX> ChocoCid, wrong
[07:35] <rramos> can someone helpme with the tape drive?
[07:35] <AlienX> MrJones, it's an option and I've never lost data doing it but I've heard of situations where it has happened
[07:35] <bug_> johan: there's something called "preferred applications" in the system menu.. that may do it
[07:35] <MrJones> do they lose it all?
[07:35] <tj_> how can i make a backup.tgz of my system withought having it attemp to back itself up, as well as some other directories
[07:35] <AlienX> MrJones, sometimes the whole partiton table gets screwed up.
[07:35] <ajuki123> can anyone help me?
[07:35] <ArrenLex> feross: the user specifies a file which exists, using a path the shell will recognise from that point. All I want to know is the complete path to it. Searching for it through the whole filesystem would take a long time; I already know it exists and where it is, I just need to put that into a full path.
[07:36] <MrJones> what program did u use
[07:36] <Flannel> !tell tj_ about backup
[07:36] <AlienX> ajuki123, ask your question and if someone can help, they will
[07:36] <ajuki123> i cant change my root password. i used the sudo passwd and it said it changed but then when ubuntu asks the root password just the old one works
[07:36] <AlienX> MrJones, i *always* use gparted
[07:36] <bug_> do sudo su -
[07:36] <Flannel> ajuki123: when did ubuntu ask for a root password?
[07:36] <bug_> then use passwd
[07:36] <tj_> i attempted to use: tar cvpzf backup.tgz / --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys        withought any succes
[07:36] <ArrenLex> feross: like, if the user is in a folder and types "../file", the shell will recognise where the file is. Can I make that into a full path?
[07:36] <Squee> dont do sudo su do sudo -s if you ahve to
[07:36] <AlienX> ajuki123, "su -" then type 'passwd root'
[07:36] <johan1> Thanks Bug - but that only lists email, browser and terminal - I've looked everywhere!
[07:36] <bug_> flannel: you can make a root pw if you want
[07:36] <MrJones> you all will find out if i messed up if i dont come back after a hour
[07:36] <ajuki123> Flannel, like when i want to use synaptic
[07:37] <Flannel> ajuki123: it's still asking for your sudo password.
[07:37] <MrJones> never mind
[07:37] <Flannel> ajuki123: if all you've done is set a root password
[07:37] <MrJones> im not going to do it i really dont even need it on my laptop at the moment ill do it another day
[07:37] <bug_> johan: ah.. try rightclicking on a media file and look for something like "open with other application"
[07:37] <AlienX> MrJones, don't let me scare you, i'm just giving you fair warning
[07:38] <_rramos> hi everyone
[07:38] <johan1> done that ... it wants me to find one but I have no idea where - looked everywhere!
[07:38] <bug_> johan: you should be able to specify something else from there (be sure to check "always use...")
[07:38] <MrJones> i know im glad you warned me but right now the only reason i was going to stick it on my laptop is because I like it so far and the games
[07:38] <lsoiis> can anyone tell me how I can get webcam support for Gaim?
[07:38] <_rramos> I need help with a tape drive
[07:38] <feross> ArrenLex: hmm. maybe ls will do it. just ran man ls but didn't see anythnig obvious
[07:38] <bug_> mrjones: i recently converted a 500 gb ntfs drive that was nearly full to ext3 safely with gparted... JUST BE SURE THAT THE DRIVE IS NOT MOUNTED!!!
[07:38] <ArrenLex> feross: combed over ls' manpage thoroughly. It didn't help.
[07:38] <MrJones> im just going to wait till i can backup all my stuff or prob next time I format ( like every 3 -6 months )
[07:38] <AlienX> _rramos, ask a specific question and maybe someone will have a specific answer
[07:39] <darkaura> okay how do I set it if I want my mp3 player when pluged in to be used in amorak instead of the rythem box music player
[07:39] <MrJones> that what drive is not mounted?
[07:39] <AlienX> MrJones, that would probably be best :)
[07:39] <_rramos> thanks
[07:39] <ACU> I want to download an entire site with the webstreams on it how can I do it ?
[07:39] <_rramos> mi tape drive is in the floppy bus, how can I access it ?
[07:39] <bug_> does anyone know how to make the realtime tail of dmesg thing stop taking up ctrl-alt-f8?
[07:39] <MrJones> AlienX do you have msn? messanger?
[07:40] <Squee> Is it possible to have a linux dhcp server deny a mac address an ip?  I dont need to know how right now I just need to know if it is possible
[07:40] <AlienX> MrJones, yes.
[07:40] <ajuki123> Flannel, none of these things worked
[07:40] <Flannel> ajuki123: none of what things?
[07:40] <ivx> hey what is the command to lanch file browser as admin
[07:40] <johan1> When I click on a movie application - TOTEM comes up as the default - Does anyone know where I can change the default to something else? PLZ????
[07:40] <_rramos> mi tape drive is in the floppy bus, how can I access it ?
[07:40] <bug_> mrjones: the drive that you're trying to resize
[07:40] <AlienX> ajuki123, you just want to change your root password or your user password?
[07:40] <Flannel> ivx: gksudo nautilus, just be careful.
[07:40] <ajuki123> Flannel, sudo su, then passwd
[07:41] <Squee> dont sudo su
[07:41] <nalioth> ajuki123: please don't do that
[07:41] <Squee> sudo -s
[07:41] <ajuki123> AlienX, root password
[07:41] <ivx> flannel thanks
[07:41] <Flannel> ajuki123: sudo still asks for your user password not your root password
[07:41] <nalioth> ajuki123: please don't do that
[07:41] <unix_infidel> does anyone know if ubuntu has a listing of companies that have support contracts with ubuntu (eg run ubuntu server and desktop platforms)??
[07:41] <Squee> er sudo -i
[07:41] <AlienX> ajuki123, donot use "sudo su" just type "su"
[07:41] <nalioth> !tell ajuki123 about root
[07:41] <darius_> Is there any magic to accessing Serial ports in Ubuntu?  I'm trying minicom, etc .. but can't get a null modem connection to work
[07:41] <_rramos> Does enyone know how to access a tape drive connected to the floppy connector?
[07:42] <amaethon> I remember tape drives
[07:42] <amaethon> wow
[07:42] <jbmigel> _rramos mount it?
[07:42] <amaethon> those are all
[07:42] <amaethon> old
[07:42] <AlienX> unix_infidel, you might be able to ask on the forum. I'm sure someone could give you an idea
[07:42] <Squee> alienx: check pm
[07:42] <ajuki123> Flannel, why would synaptic ask for my user password?
[07:42] <^majik^> _rramos: check dmesg to see what its device name is
[07:42] <AlienX> Squee, i don't have any pms at the moment
[07:42] <Normal> Could someone help me? I can only boot without freezing with 2.6.12-9, so I can't use Nvidia glx(which tries to install 2.6.15-23), so I can't run Blender and any other Opengl apps. Is there anything I can do?
[07:42] <Flannel> ajuki123: because it uses sudo.
[07:42] <nalioth> ajuki123: your user password is the same password that runs the system
[07:42] <ajuki123> Alien, su dont work
[07:42] <_rramos> jbmigel i dont know the divice in /dev
[07:42] <nalioth> ajuki123: read what ubotu sent you, please
[07:43] <ChocoCid> this is ubuntu, you use sudo not su
[07:43] <jbmigel> _rramos search dmesg as majik said
[07:43] <bug_> normal: install module-assistant
[07:43] <ArrenLex> feross: any more tips?
[07:43] <AlienX> ajuki123, take nalioth's advice
[07:43] <_rramos> majik you know a key word to grep into dmesg?
[07:43] <asdx> hi
[07:43] <asdx> is there a way to download youtube videos with opera?
[07:43] <Gabby_Hayes> ok, I commented EVERYTHING out of my  sources.list except the two with the universe &  multiverse places: and got: failed to fetch:  404 [IP: 195.248.90.54:80]   :-(
[07:43] <MrJones> alienx look in the private window
[07:43] <compotatoj> I had sound earlier today and then I restarted X with Ctrl + Alt + Backspace (I think that is when it stopped working). Now my sound does not work and I tried restarting. What should I do?
[07:43] <Tru7h> How long should Ubuntu take to boot from a Live CD on a 2000 computer?
[07:43] <Arafangion> _rramos: You'll want context, use "dmesg | less" instead, and search that.
[07:43] <^majik^> _rramos: maybe "tape" or "fd", since it may show up under the floppy drive (fd) device name.
[07:44] <bug_> asdx: there's a script on rootprompt.org that downloads youtube videos
[07:44] <Normal> Okay, installing now(thank you!)
[07:44] <SeraVitae> hey guys i just got told i need an 'xml parser' by azureus. like, any suggestions
[07:44] <^majik^> _rramos:  yes, I would normally do what Arafangion said
[07:44] <AlienX> MrJones, i still haven't gotten one. type "/query alienx"
[07:44] <_rramos> thanks let me llok
[07:44] <asdx> bug_: i need something easy for a girl
[07:44] <_rramos> look
[07:44] <nalioth> AlienX: MrJones is not identifed, and cannot send PM or /notice messages
[07:44] <Arafangion> _rramos: Generally, / starts searches in most apps.
[07:44] <feross> ArrenLex: nothing comes to mind other than maybe a little perl script but I guess there has to be a better way.
[07:44] <amaethon> I havent been on IRc in the longest
[07:44] <amaethon> wow
[07:44] <seamus7> anyone familiar with xubuntu (xfce) ... the irc #xubuntu channel is asleep :( ... I removed all my panels on my desktop but now I can't get them back ... I went to the settings manager and clicked on panel but nothing happened ...
[07:44] <AlienX> nalioth, ah :)
[07:45] <bug_> asdx: it's simple.. just run the program with the url as the argument.. you could probably put a link to it on the desktop/panel and drag the url to it from the browser...
[07:45] <AlienX> MrJones, identify with nickserv and try again :)
[07:45] <MrJones> never mind
[07:45] <^majik^> Arafangion: you can search inside of less?
[07:45] <MrJones> they are blocked
[07:45] <MrJones> the network told me
[07:45] <nalioth> !tell MrJones about register
[07:45] <MrJones> Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[07:45] <bug_> seamus: i'm a bit familiar.. i believe that there's a file that you can delete to restore the default settings
[07:46] <MrJones> i will soon
[07:46] <seamus7> bug_: oh ok
[07:46] <MrJones> I want to try something first
[07:46] <MrJones> brb
[07:46] <_grego_> hi all, which solution i have to play *.ram files on my update ubuntu
[07:46] <nalioth> MrJones: please don't spam us with such a common  message, we all know what it is telling you
[07:46] <bug_> seamus: give me one minute
[07:46] <seamus7> bug_: ok
[07:46] <Arafangion> ^majik^: Of course.
[07:46] <ChocoCid> !restricted formats > grego
[07:46] <MrJones> o sorry
[07:46] <^majik^> Arafangion: I didn't know that..  cool tip.
[07:46] <_grego_> !restricter formats
[07:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restricter formats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:46] <Arafangion> ^majik^: :)
[07:46] <ChocoCid> !restricted formats > _grego_
[07:46] <ChocoCid> there we go
[07:47] <_grego_> thx
[07:47] <ChocoCid> silly underscores :P
[07:47] <^majik^> Arafangion: my vi/vim experience helped me with aptitude (but of course the help page is one keystroke away)
[07:47] <rowanjl> Has anyone been able to build the latest Rhythmbox release?
[07:47] <bug_> seamus: okay this should work:   rm -rf ~/.config/xfce4-session
[07:47] <seamus7> bug_: let me try that .. thx
[07:48] <Arafangion> ^majik^: I'm used to apt, but aptitude is a very nice package manager.
[07:48] <amaethon> i dunno if i have aquestion.. i have everyhitng all setup even XGL with Beryl.. what should I do now LoL?
[07:48] <ChocoCid> play with your bouncy windows!
[07:48] <amaethon> LoL
[07:48] <amaethon> did that
[07:48] <daviey> Hi, does anybody know how i can find out if my NIC is capiable of PXE?
[07:48] <Arafangion> amaethon: Come back with a question, without saying 'lol'.
[07:48] <dragonfyre13> hey guys.
[07:48] <dragonfyre13> I'mn back.
[07:48] <ChocoCid> amaethon : learn to code, write some programs
[07:48] <ChocoCid> :)
[07:49] <rowanjl> It keeps giving me this message: "Please add the files: codeset.m4 gettext.m4 glibc21.m4 iconv.m4 isc-posix.m4 lcmessage.m progtest.m4 from the /usr/share/aclocal directory to your autoconf macro directory or directly to your aclocal.m4 file."
[07:49] <bug_> sorry to repeat myself, but does anyone know how to remove the dmesg thing from virtual terminal 8?
[07:49] <Arafangion> amaethon: I suggest Python
[07:49] <dragonfyre13> ChaosFan: you don't know how to code?
[07:49] <rowanjl> I've got no idea where the autoconf macro directory is
[07:49] <^majik^> btw, hi rowan  ;-)
[07:49] <sethk> daviey, the only way is to consult the manufacturer's specs
[07:49] <rowanjl> :P
[07:49] <bug_> amaethon: you could always play some games ... frozen bubble and planeshift are two good ones
[07:49] <amaethon> python huh.. I know nothing about python.. i guess i could dl a python for dummies book
[07:49] <ChocoCid> er, if that was directed to me, i don't know how to code "relevant" stuff
[07:49] <dragonfyre13> amaethon: as long as you use Ubuntu, python is likely your best option
[07:49] <sethk> daviey, unless you get lucky and find a reference to it in a kernel source file.
[07:49] <daviey> sethk:  thanx :(
[07:49] <ChocoCid> python for dummies? heck no
[07:49] <ChocoCid> http://www.python.org/about/gettingstarted/
[07:49] <ChocoCid> open source dammit- you don't have to BUY anything
[07:49] <amaethon> i was thinkin of switchin to slackware 11.0 (dont flame me guys) hehe
[07:50] <dragonfyre13> amaethon: check out the python site. It has a tutorial under the CCS liscence.
[07:50] <sethk> amaethon, I use slackware on some of my servers
[07:50] <GoldKeeper> anyone toy with  ruby at all ?
[07:50] <sethk> amaethon, never read anything that says "for dummies"
[07:50] <dragonfyre13> ChocoCid: umm, not open source. Creative commons.
[07:50] <sethk> GoldKeeper, sure, I've used it a lot
[07:50] <ChocoCid> er
[07:50] <darkaura> I just have a usb mp3 player and Amorack doesn't detect it is there a way I can make it?
[07:50] <amaethon> haha seth
[07:51] <ChocoCid> yeah, ok, i guess "open source" is a bad term to use for stuff that's not code
[07:51] <Arafangion> GoldKeeper: Ruby is an impressive language - but python is more mature.
[07:51] <amaethon> im gonna go read up on python LD
[07:51] <GoldKeeper> more mature eh,
[07:51] <amaethon> :D
[07:51] <dragonfyre13> ChocoCid: It POs the people who are FOSS junkies. I'm not, but some are.
[07:52] <amaethon> lemme see if I remember IRc commands now.. hmm
[07:52] <ChocoCid> bleh
[07:52] <ChocoCid> it's Free, how's that ;[
[07:52] <lsoiis> can anyone tell me how I can get webcam support for Gaim?
[07:52] <sethk> amaethon, GoldKeeper python has more support libraries, certainly.  but you don't have to use one or the other, pick the one best for each task
[07:52] <Arafangion> GoldKeeper: Yes, particularly in regards to documentation and modules.
[07:52] <dragonfyre13> amaethon: if you're programming a game, check out pygame.
[07:52] <Arafangion> GoldKeeper: wxRuby is nearly a joke.
[07:52] <AlienX> lsoiis, there is no webcam support in gaim afaik
[07:52] <amaethon> okie
[07:52] <amaethon> thanks
[07:52] <dragonfyre13> lsoiis: hey, what protocal?
[07:52] <ChocoCid> i really need to get started with programming but i'm lazy :P
[07:52] <lsoiis> AlienX: so how can I get webcam support?
[07:53] <lsoiis> dragonfyre13: eh?
[07:53] <sethk> ChocoCid, python is a great place to start
[07:53] <sethk> ChocoCid, a good language, and you can get started with it quite quickly.
[07:53] <ChocoCid> well
[07:53] <AlienX> lsoiis, in gaim or what? what protocol are you using? aim/msn/yahoo/gmail/what?
[07:53] <ChocoCid> i've programmed STUFF before
[07:53] <dragonfyre13> lsoiis: MSN, AIM, etc.
[07:53] <ChocoCid> as in, i know how to program a TI-83/84 well
[07:53] <sethk> ChocoCid, that's actually quite a bit harder.  :)
[07:53] <ChocoCid> the problem is, as i'm an engineering major, my introduction level course to CS was in... matlab
[07:53] <lsoiis> dragonfyre13: MSN user trying to get webcam support with me! Any ideas?
[07:53] <dragonfyre13> ChocoCid: that's not coding.
[07:54] <ChocoCid> "Computer Science for Engineers"
[07:54] <ChocoCid> no, see, we DID coding
[07:54] <dragonfyre13> lsoiis: amsn
[07:54] <lsoiis> AlienX: MSN
[07:54] <lsoiis> dragonfyre13: amsn?
[07:54] <AlienX> lsoiis, amsn has webcam support iirc
[07:54] <ChocoCid> i mean, we did freaking object-oriented programming in matlab ok
[07:54] <Rookie_> lsoiis - try amsn
[07:54] <dragonfyre13> lsoiis: grab the package from the repos. I'm pretty sure it handles webcams, as it is tailored to MSN Specifically.
[07:54] <lsoiis> AlienX: so I install amsn?
[07:54] <ChocoCid> sudo apt-get install amsn
[07:54] <Arafangion> ChocoCid: THese days, many SE grads don't have a clue of any form of programming other than OO.
[07:54] <ChocoCid> i'm fairly sure that's not what it was MEANT to do but we did it!
[07:54] <AlienX> lsoiis, yes
[07:54] <BelialMkII> It does, Though can be tempremental with some cams, . It it messes up the CVS version worked for me
[07:55] <lsoiis> dragonfyre13: I just tyed sudo apt-get install amsn
[07:55] <ivx> if i am trying to host multiple domains on the same server, do i have to do anything else but modify the httpd.config
[07:55] <dragonfyre13> lsoiis: get it from synaptic, or apt-get install amsn
[07:55] <lsoiis> its downloading something
[07:55] <lsoiis> ty :)
[07:55] <ChocoCid> yeah, that would be amsn
[07:55] <lsoiis> so then I run amsn?
[07:55] <dragonfyre13> lsoiis: np.
[07:55] <ChocoCid> sure
[07:55] <lsoiis> dragonfyre13: ok downloading now
[07:55] <ChocoCid> apps-internet-amsn
[07:55] <Mr> does anyone know how to setup a irc server?
[07:55] <dragonfyre13> lsoiis: it will be under internet in the apps menu.
[07:55] <ChocoCid> in the future, what you can do is applications-add/remove programs to browse a list of programs available to you
[07:55] <Milktea> So I tried to create a new partition for ubuntu
[07:56] <jimFL> This may be obvious, but not to me: How to use apt-get or aptitude with .deb files on a CD or in file system rather than from a URL? Can't find anything in help/faq's...
[07:56] <Milktea> but both PartitionMagic and the Ubuntu partitioner told me that there was some error on my hard drive and wouldn't partition
[07:56] <dragonfyre13> jimFL: dpkg -i instead of apt-get install.
[07:56] <Milktea> How do I fix this?
[07:56] <jimFL> Thx!
[07:56] <dragonfyre13> dpkg is the local type of apt-get.
[07:56] <Arafangion> Mr: apt-get install ejabberd
[07:56] <Arafangion> Mr: Oh, wait, did you mean irc?
[07:56] <lsoiis> dragonfyre13: cheers :)
[07:57] <dragonfyre13> lsoiis: no problem. Have fun!
[07:57] <Arafangion> jimFL: Is it a repo, or is it just a random collection of .deb's?
[07:57] <Milktea> Anyone know how to fix my partiton problem :/
[07:57] <AlienX> Milktea, it would help to know what the specific error was
[07:57] <Milktea> Okay, I can check again
[07:58] <Milktea> but I won't be back
[07:58] <Milktea> for like
[07:58] <Milktea> 30 minutes
[07:58] <Gabby_Hayes> Milktea   what brand of  HD?
[07:58] <Milktea> Not sure
[07:58] <dragonfyre13> Milktea: it would also help to let us know what you used to partition it,if there were others on it before, etc.
[07:58] <lsoiis> dragonfyre13: yes ;)
[07:58] <Arafangion> jimFL: In the former, add the url, if it exists, by definition, it has a url.
[07:58] <Milktea> I have partitioned it before
[07:58] <Arafangion> jimFL: In the later, see man dpkg-scanpackages
[07:58] <Milktea> with no errors
[07:58] <dragonfyre13> lsoiis: ;)
[07:58] <Milktea> i even ran a windows chkdsk
[07:58] <Milktea> :/
[07:59] <daviey> Is it possible to move a HD running Ubuntu from one PC to another?
[07:59] <dragonfyre13> Arafangion: oh my god. dpkg-scanpackages? No. dpkg -i is all you need. Or gdeb.
[07:59] <Milktea> brb
[07:59] <Gabby_Hayes> Milktea  .. do you have another computer to put it in as a second HD ?
[07:59] <se7enworth> hi. how do I mount a my windows volume in dapper, and also have it permanently mounted for future use?
[07:59] <Flannel> !tell se7enworth about ntfs
[08:00] <ArrenLex> se7worth: do you want to write to it, or read only?
[08:00] <Flannel> daviey: sure.  You may need to do some tweaking to get it to work perfectly, but yes.
[08:00] <daviey> se7eveworth: is it Fat32 or NTFS?
[08:00] <bug_> i think that ntfsprogs includes the ntfs-3g drivers now....
[08:00] <jimFL> I'm trying to avoid downloading the desktop distribution onto a server install.  (Couldn't get desktop to access hard disk)
[08:00] <dragonfyre13> daviey: yes. There isn't copy protection on the HD with FOSS operating systems. You might get configuration errors if it's to different though.
[08:00] <Arafangion> dragonfyre13: He did say: apt-get or aptitude
[08:00] <Gabby_Hayes> has anyone used the progarm   nftsprogs  (a linux program for NTFS)
[08:01] <dragonfyre13> Arafangion: BTW I think he
[08:01] <daviey> okay, thanks
[08:01] <sethk> Gabby_Hayes, a bit, and I've also heard good things about it.
[08:01] <rowanjl> Bah, I give up... I guess Rhythmbox has too many changes for a simple upgrade
[08:01] <kmitch87> Gabby_Hayes: sure
[08:01] <Flannel> jimFL: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will do it.
[08:01] <Arafangion> daviey: Copy protection with computer OS's just doesn't make sense.
[08:01] <Flannel> jimFL: You'll also need to grab a default (desktop) kernel too, you don't want the -server version
[08:01] <Gabby_Hayes> saw a reference to it,  but that was it,  a reference  :-(
[08:02] <daviey> with wasn't copy protection i was worried about, but the specific install not being capatialbe with different arch'
[08:02] <dragonfyre13> Arafangion: yeah, I think he's already using my suggestion though. He's just looking for something that he can install it with, and dpkg -i works fine. if you want to build a local repo (Don't come to the list for that. You have to be major techie) then you go to dpkg-scanpackages.
[08:02] <dragonfyre13> daviey: how different?
[08:02] <Flannel> daviey: Oh, you're switcching total arches?  yeah, how different?
[08:03] <daviey> totally, Intel 700Mhz to AMD 2.4Ghz
[08:03] <Arafangion> dragonfyre13: Sometimes I would consider using dpkg-scanpackages if I wanted to use somebody else's apt archives.
[08:03] <dragonfyre13> daviey: you'll be fine. Their both x86.
[08:03] <daviey> if you do a apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop, presumabably it removes all trace of the X?
[08:03] <Arafangion> daviey: Oh, we thought you were talking different, as in, the other system is a Sparc.
[08:03] <dragonfyre13> Arafangion: I use it to, but I don't ever reccomend it for newbies.
[08:04] <daviey> dragonfyre:  isn't AMD k7?
[08:04] <dragonfyre13> daviey: nope. Just removes the metapackage.
[08:04] <Arafangion> dragonfyre13: Nor do I, but I don't recommend newbies install distinct .deb's either.
[08:04] <Flannel> daviey: nope.  ubuntu-desktop is a meta package... unless oyu installed it with aptitude, then depending, itll ask
[08:04] <Flannel> daviey: AMD is, yes.  But k7 can use 686 kernels, and can use 386 kernels too.
[08:04] <daviey> hanx
[08:04] <daviey> t
[08:04] <jimFL> My CD is much faster than my net connection, so apt-get (from a server somewhere) is going to take forever (>400MB). I wanted to use the CD as the repository to do the install, but want it to all be copasetic(?) with the existing distro.  This is just over the edge of my knowledge/understanding as a linux newbie.
[08:04] <dragonfyre13> Arafangion: yeah, but if they have it, it's better than nothing. debs are pretty simple, whereas dpkg-scanpackages is more difficult.
[08:05] <Flannel> jimFL: grab the alternate ISO and you can use that as a repository
[08:05] <Gabby_Hayes> daviey  .. similar thing here:  am installing ubuntu onto two systems:  intel i810 800MHz  &  AMD64 3800 x2  (am geting my exercise tonight)
[08:05] <bug_> daviey: you'll need to remove x-window-system and xorg-core or xorg-common and some other stuff... packages.ubuntu.com may have a list of everything x-related
[08:05] <Arafangion> xserver-xorg might just be enough.
[08:05] <Flannel> daviey: if you remove some low level x thing, most other stuff probably depends on it ;)
[08:05] <daviey> Gabby_Hayes: bet you were cleaver enough to have them in the same room eh?  I gotta run upstairs and down
[08:06] <sethk> jimFL, you'll be getting moderately old stuff.  You will end up upgrading a fair fraction of it over the 'net anyway
[08:06] <ArrenLex> jimFL: man apt-cdrom
[08:06] <sethk> jimFL, not sure if you'll save very much.
[08:06] <dragonfyre13> daviey: yes, but you can replace the kernel. 686 works fine, you just don't get the same boost.
[08:06] <jimFL> OK - I will have to defer the install until I get to a higher BW. connection to grab the alternate.  Dang! I should have d/l'd them all.
[08:06] <Arafangion> dragonfyre13: For desktops, I'm torn between Debian and Ubuntu, actually - Debian can have rather nice DVD's.
[08:06] <dragonfyre13> jimFL: apt-cdrom. there's an ubuntu site for it too.
[08:06] <jimFL> I don't quite get the kernel issue.
[08:06] <Flannel> jimFL: you'll have to download the alternate ISO (if you don't already have it)  700mb.  It can install a GUI-less server version as well.
[08:06] <Gabby_Hayes> yes,  daviey  .. I'm not that athletic at my age.
[08:07] <sethk> jimFL, what kernel issue?
[08:07] <Arafangion> dragonfyre13: And since debian is slow to change, those can stay reaosnably up-to-date for quite a while. :)
[08:07] <dragonfyre13> Arafangion: I go with gentoo and Ubuntu. Gentoo servers, and my geeky desktop, and Ubuntu for my wife, kids, and "easy" computers.
[08:07] <se7enworth> its a NTFS partition
[08:07] <ArrenLex> se7enworth: read only, or do you need to write?
[08:07] <Arafangion> dragonfyre13: My server is OBSD :)
[08:07] <SeraVitae> how can i tell in ubuntu what motherboard i have?
[08:07] <se7enworth> both
[08:07] <ArrenLex> !fuse
[08:07] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[08:07] <Arafangion> dragonfyre13: But I generally prefer Debian.
[08:08] <se7enworth> thx
[08:08] <ArrenLex> Debian is life.
[08:08] <Arafangion> dragonfyre13: it's quite easy - though Ubuntu wins on hardware, and it _is_ just a little more polished.
[08:08] <jimFL> dragonfyre13: apt-cdrom is the ticket, I think.  Thanks mucho.
[08:08] <dragonfyre13> Arafangion: I have a FreeBSD server, but I rarely use it. Just not fast enough.
[08:08] <Milktea> Okay
[08:08] <Flannel> jimFL: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/  there's a kernel differnces section
[08:08] <daviey> se7enworth, if the data is importiant and not backed up i would not use write access as you could loose everything (rare)
[08:08] <dragonfyre13> jimFL: wait. Look at this.
[08:08] <Milktea> I used PartitionMagic
[08:08] <Milktea> and I got this error
[08:08] <Milktea> #1529 Information mismatch in directory entry
[08:08] <rowanjl> If I'm going to upgrade my kernel and I'm using a Athlon 64, what should I choose?
[08:08] <daviey> Has anybody tried making a ubuntu thin client?
[08:08] <dragonfyre13> ubotu: apt-cdrom
[08:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-cdrom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:09] <dragonfyre13> ubotu: apt
[08:09] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[08:09] <sethk> Milktea, you are SOL.  hope you backed up
[08:09] <Flannel> rowanjl: are you using a 64bit install? or a 32bit one?
[08:09] <Milktea> SOL?
[08:09] <rowanjl> Flannel: sorry, 32bit
[08:09] <AlienX> Milktea, feces out of luck :)
[08:09] <sethk> Milktea, s*** out of luck
[08:09] <Milktea> oh
[08:09] <Milktea> hmm
[08:09] <Milktea> i might as well
[08:09] <sethk> Milktea, try fsck (assuming it's a linux partition)
[08:09] <Flannel> rowanjl: k7, I believe.  k8 if it's available, but I don't believe it is.  (your proc is k8, but I don't know if thats only for it running in 64bit mode)
[08:10] <Milktea> no
[08:10] <Milktea> im trying to resize
[08:10] <Milktea> NTFS
[08:10] <Jerub> does the ubuntu installer have the ability to resize HFS+ partitions?
[08:10] <rowanjl> Milktea: thanks :)
[08:10] <Arafangion> Jerub: Running a mac?
[08:10] <Milktea> ?
[08:10] <sethk> Milktea, then try window's ntfs recovery tool
[08:10] <ArrenLex> rowanji: you can run a 64-bit kernel and use a 32-bit distro. You'll be fine.
[08:10] <Milktea> sethk where is that found
[08:10] <sidny4> how do you disable quotas on the home folder?
[08:10] <Jesse1984> a question, when i goto install ubuntu via the alternate cd, i get this error.. "buffer i/o error on device hdd, logical block x" (where x can be one of heaps of numbers that come up with that same error one after another) it seems like it will never stop
[08:10] <Gabby_Hayes> Milktea   .. do you have another computer where you could use that HD as a second HD?   (and use gpart to retrieve your lost partitions, if you are lucky)
[08:10] <ArrenLex> sethk: Windows' *
[08:10] <Flannel> ArrenLex: is k8 in the i386 repositories though?
[08:10] <Milktea> no
[08:10] <Arafangion> Jerub: Whatever you do, please back it up, I've heard rumours that linux's mac filesystem support is very unreliable.
[08:10] <Milktea> I don't have lost partitions
[08:10] <Milktea> o.0
[08:11] <Flannel> Jesse1984: reburn the CD, at 4x
[08:11] <sethk> Milktea, I'm not sure, I don't use it much, but it's there.
[08:11] <dragonfyre13> jimFL: http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/08/get-ubuntu-repositories-on-dvd.html
[08:11] <Arafangion> Jerub: You have a corrupt CD.
[08:11] <Milktea> wait
[08:11] <Arafangion> dragonfyre13: Thanks.
[08:11] <Milktea> I'm running
[08:11] <Jerub> Arafangion: no I don't!
[08:11] <Jerub> :)
[08:11] <Milktea> Windows XP
[08:11] <sidny4> Flannel, I don't believe k8 is in the i386, k7 is for sure though
[08:11] <Milktea> off of the partition I'm trying to resize
[08:11] <Jerub> Arafangion: yeah, I'm doing the backups now :)
[08:11] <Milktea> at the moment
[08:11] <Milktea> with no problems
[08:11] <Milktea> o.0
[08:11] <Arafangion> Jerub: Disregard me then :)
[08:11] <Gabby_Hayes> ArrenLex  .. I installed off of a DVD  6.06 ... and used the defaults, for now.  (AMD64 x2 )
[08:11] <dragonfyre13> Arafangion: for what?
[08:11] <ArrenLex> Flannel: It seems not. It was in the debian 386 repos, though.
[08:12] <Arafangion> dragonfyre13: Ubuntu repos on DVD.
[08:12] <dragonfyre13> Arafangion: np.
[08:12] <Za1> Hi, can someone pls give me some suggestions - I have currently running Ubuntu (hoary) and I would like to upgrade to latest (drapper) which I have a CD.  Is there anyway I can only do upgrade without lossing my existing data?
[08:12] <Flannel> Za1: yes, but you have to upgrade through breezy first.
[08:12] <sethk> Za1, yes, but ordinarily that's done from the 'net, rather than from the cd
[08:12] <ArrenLex> Az1: why don't you just apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade?
[08:13] <sidny4> anybody know how to remove quotas on the home folder?
[08:13] <Flannel> Za1: and, if you're doing it via the CDs, grab the alternate dapper one, not the desktop.
[08:13] <Milktea> Guys
[08:13] <Milktea> for the error #1529 Information mismatch in directory entry
[08:13] <sethk> Za1, back up first
[08:13] <Milktea> I'm trying to resize
[08:13] <se7enworth> fuse_mount failed
[08:13] <Milktea> the parition
[08:13] <Milktea> partition*
[08:13] <dragonfyre13> Zal: yep. Upgrade in order. Go through the tutorials on the main ubuntu site for each upgrade.
[08:13] <Milktea> I'm running off of currently
[08:13] <Za1> okay - the problem is i only have 64k.  That mean I need to order breezy CD and upgrade first?
[08:13] <ArrenLex> !enter > Milktea
[08:13] <Gabby_Hayes> Milktea  ..  do you have a live CD?
[08:13] <sethk> Milktea, question was already answered
[08:13] <Milktea> Yes, I do
[08:13] <andrew__1> Hey pals, I just rebooted my server and now mysql has the error "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111)" I'm using Ubuntu 6.06 and mysql-4.1
[08:14] <Milktea> Sorry
[08:14] <dragonfyre13> Zal: it might be more difficult, because from hoary to breezy, the upgrade process was still experemental.
[08:14] <se7enworth> ok ... say i just wanna read from the partition. what would I do then.?
[08:14] <Flannel> dragonfyre13: no it wasn't.
[08:14] <sidny4> anybody know how to remove quotas on the home folder?
[08:14] <daviey> Am i right in saying that XDMCP login will connect to a remote 'X' - allow me a full working machine and run processes on the 'server' machine.  Ie have a powerfull backend and login from an old pc, for a new pc feel?
[08:14] <Za1> hmm- sounds like i better backup and nuke my machine and install the latest will be the best solutions.  thanks guys for your wonderful feeback.  you bunch are always a helpful.
[08:15] <Flannel> Za1: right, except you won't be able to order a breezy CD, I don't think.  And you won't be able to order a Dapper Alternate CD.  Unless you're ordering them somewhere besides shipit
[08:15] <Gabby_Hayes> Za1  .. for that little amount of ram,  use more than one swap, and if you have two HDs, put a swap on each HD.  easier on your OS with two swaps and little ram.
[08:15] <bug_> i'd say to backup /etc and /home .. and then just do a clean install or (messily) overinstall
[08:15] <dragonfyre13> Flannel: it was horribly unpolished, and crashed more than half of the computers I tried it on. If it wasn't officially, then it was in practice.
[08:15] <Flannel> Za1: right.  That's probably by far the easiest.  Just backup /home and stuff, like bug_ said
[08:15] <ArrenLex> se7enworth: to read only, add this line to your /etc/fstab:
[08:15] <ArrenLex> /dev/<partition>       <mountpoint>          ntfs    ro,users,umask=000           0       0
[08:15] <se7enworth> ok ... say i just wanna read from the partition. what would I do then.?
[08:15] <Flannel> dragonfyre13: dist-upgrade was official, and you just seem to have had bad luck ;)
[08:15] <se7enworth> thx
[08:15] <sidny4> anybody know how to remove quotas on the home folder?
[08:15] <dragonfyre13> Flannel: oh, and they instituted the new procedure to "fix issues with the previous methods" according to them.
[08:15] <Flannel> daviey: correct
[08:16] <dragonfyre13> Flannel: yes, official. I meant experemental.
[08:16] <daviey> se7evworth:  ie:   /dev/hda1    /media/windows ntfs  nls=utf8,umask=0222 0    0
[08:16] <dragonfyre13> Flannel: This was also a major issue on the boards. And I know I have bad luck. ;)
[08:16] <Flannel> dragonfyre13: most of the problems stemmed from people uninstalling meta packages and not reinstalling them.  It was NOT experimental.  We can continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic if you'd like, this is not the place.
[08:16] <sethk> dragonfyre13, is it experimentally official, or officially experimental?
[08:17] <captine> hi all.  when booting ubuntu, i get an error.  "file system check failed.  please repair manually.  give root password for maintanance".  when i give root password, it just takes me to console.  anyone able to help?
[08:17] <daviey> Flannel:  with X actually be running on the machine aswell or just X-Server?
[08:17] <dragonfyre13> sethk: it's neither any more.
[08:17] <ArrenLex> captine: from that console, enter "fsck".
[08:17] <sethk> dragonfyre13, good thing, I was getting dizzy  :)
[08:17] <dragonfyre13> sethk: I understood it to be experimental. I just know that there were lots of issues, and I had more than a few myself.
[08:17] <Flannel> daviey: X needs to be, but that's it.  You login with your Xserver to the XClient at your home machine thing.
[08:17] <dragonfyre13> sethk: :)
[08:17] <sethk> captine, that's what it is supposed to do, take you to the console so you can repair
[08:18] <daviey> Flannel, thanx a bundle
[08:18] <rowanjl> 800 uses is too many for ONE IRC channel...
[08:18] <mikeh_> sethk: i tried the going to terminal thing, and the computer does not slow down in terminal
[08:18] <sethk> captine, if it is the root file system, you wil lneed to boot the live cd to repair it
[08:18] <ArrenLex> rowanji: only about 20 are talking,
[08:18] <ArrenLex> .
[08:18] <phonics> rowanjl,  we're all idling
[08:18] <dragonfyre13> Flannel: that could very well be. I don't know all the specifics, but I know that everything is fixed now. I just hope the upgrade with dapper to edgy goes well.
[08:18] <sethk> mikeh_, good.  see if there is anything interesting in thel ogs.
[08:18] <SeraVitae> could someone give me a hand installing some XML java parser? i tried to install piccolo but it's like, not working.
[08:18] <ArrenLex> sethk: why would you need the livecd to repair the root filesystem?
[08:19] <rowanjl> ArrenLex, phonics, I know, but with 20 people talking its very hard to follow a conversation
[08:19] <sidny4> anybody know how to remove quotas on the home folder?
[08:19] <mikeh_> sethk: what logs
[08:19] <andrew__1> Hey pals, I just rebooted my server and now mysql has the error "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111)" I'm using Ubuntu 6.06 and mysql-4.1
[08:19] <sethk> ArrenLex, because you can't repair a file system while it is mounted
[08:20] <phonics> andrew__1, that sounds rough
[08:20] <Flannel> sidny4: quota is probably the command used to implement them, check it's documentation, I've never used it.
[08:20] <ArrenLex> sethk: that admin console doesn't mount the filesystem AFAIK; that's why your /etc/fstab says "defaults,errors=remount-ro" for the options on the root fs. So you can repair it.
[08:20] <sethk> mikeh_, /var/log/Xorg.0.log, /var/log/messages.   do    ls -ltr /var/log    and check logs which haave changed most recently
[08:20] <captine> ArrenLex: done that.  now it says reiser_open : the superblock cnnot be found on /dev/hdc.  says something about the partition table might be recked and to use option --rebuild-sb.  should i type fsck --rebuild-sb?
[08:20] <sidny4> ok
[08:20] <sethk> ArrenLex, it's mounted read only, but it is still mounted
[08:20] <Robin1931> hey ppl i need some help...i installed firefox ages ago using the binary and now i can't get rid of it to install the latest version via synaptic...how do i remove firefox?
[08:20] <captine> ArrenLex: and will i lose data?
[08:20] <andrew__1> phonics: yes, it's really bugging me
[08:20] <ArrenLex> captine: if it warns you that your filesystem is mounted, do not run it. If it does not warn you, you are safe.
[08:20] <sethk> Robin1931, rm
[08:20] <jimFL> thx dragonfyre13 & others.  Gotta' go offline now.  You've given me MUCH more than I ever would have found  on my own.  Much appreciated. Later...
[08:21] <ArrenLex> captine: everything SHOULD be fine.
[08:21] <Mr> how come everytime i try to run a shell script nothing happens
[08:21] <ArrenLex> Mr: does the file have exec permissions?
[08:21] <Robin1931> sethk: rm firefox?
[08:21] <Mr> uhhh i dont know what that is how do i give it them
[08:21] <printk> Mr: what kind of shell script?  it is executable right?
[08:21] <ArrenLex> Mr: run it as "sh <file>" or else "sudo chmod +x <file>" and then you can simply "./<file>"
[08:21] <Mr> Yeah
[08:21] <wrabbit^> Mr, if you want to create an exe, just sudo chmod +x .........
[08:22] <phonics> andrew__1, you try : http://www.tech-recipes.com/mysql_tips762.html
[08:22] <wrabbit^> err yeah, what ArrenLex said
[08:22] <printk> no need to "sudo chmod +x" unless it's owned by root
[08:22] <printk> just chmod +x :)
[08:22] <daviey> If i want to migrate from one machine to another can i just move my  /home/($USER) directory?
[08:22] <Flannel> Robin1931: no, you'll have to delete all of the files associated with it.
[08:22] <Mr> slow down i just installed ubuntu today
[08:22] <Mr> Im a complete noob lol
[08:23] <Mr> how do i run it
[08:23] <ArrenLex> sethk: the reason you can't fsck a mounted filesystem is because the inodes are in use and the counts are wrong and all these things, and it closes files which can't be closed because they are open and corrupts everything. If you mount a filesystem readonly, it's still in virgin state. You can't fix a filesystem if you can't read it; the livecd mounts it readonly anyway.
[08:23] <Flannel> daviey: that's the idea.  there can always be some problems, but  in a nutshell, yes.
[08:23] <Mr>  double clicked on ot
[08:23] <Mr> it*
[08:23] <printk> daviey: yup you can.
[08:23] <phonics> this channel is a bumbleclot clusterfuck - quoth McDonalds "I'm Lovin it!"
[08:23] <daviey> So my .evolution and other such should move with it?
[08:23] <Robin1931> Flannel: where can i find the install files?
[08:23] <andrew__1> phonics: I'll have a look, it looks reasona;ble thanks
[08:23] <ArrenLex> Mr: run chmod +x <file> and then you can doubleclick on it to run it.
[08:23] <wrabbit^> Mr: Hang on.  :) What're you trying to run?
[08:23] <Mr> it says Do you want to run "Installation or display its contents
[08:24] <Mr> lampp
[08:24] <phonics> andrew__1, all i did was google for the error and pass you the first hit.
[08:24] <mikeh_> sethk: what would be the evms-engine.X.log
[08:24] <andrew__1> hmm yeah I didnt find that page
[08:24] <andrew__1> not sure if it will work, Ive tried many things
[08:24] <Mr> im trying to install lampp
[08:24] <phonics> any lurkers know if this is the correct channel to go into a tirade about GDM, gnome-session, and gnome-panel?
[08:25] <ArrenLex> phonics: do you need help with those things?
[08:25] <Flannel> phonics: #ubuntu-offtopic would be a better place
[08:25] <harrism> when I try to run mupen64 (n64 emu) I get this error-> error while loading shared libraries libsdl-1.2.so.0    I program in SDL all the time, why does it not load the shared library? I have libsdl 1.2 and some addons like gfx, net, image, ttf and so on
[08:25] <printk> phonics must be jamacian
[08:25] <phonics> ArrenLex, i'm frustrated by them, whether or not help is available is the question itself
[08:25] <Mr> So how do i run a shell script now? because when i click run it doesnt work
[08:25] <Mr> nothing happens
[08:25] <lsoiis> dragonfyre13: it WORKS!  webcam
[08:25] <lsoiis> thanks
[08:26] <phonics> printk, wow.... just,... wow
[08:26] <harrism> I have dev packages, but if I can run sdl games I make why can't I run this? :/
[08:26] <dragonfyre13> lsoiis: no problem. Have fun. But not too much. ;)
[08:26] <holycow> phonics, no that would be #gnome or irc.gnome.org
[08:26] <holycow> however
[08:26] <holycow> can you give us a gist?
[08:26] <phonics> ArrenLex, Flannel, just curious if there's a way to deal with gnome-panel bugging out when you use GDM
[08:27] <sethk> phonics, run KDE   :)
[08:27] <ArrenLex> harrism: that file is in the package libsdl1.2debian-all.
[08:27] <phonics> basically, gnome-panel has started crashing a lot. However, GDM seems to be catching the 3-key-salute, and all my gnome processes are still alive
[08:27] <ArrenLex> KDE is life.
[08:27] <dragonfyre13> sethk: DEATH TO KDE!
[08:27] <ghostshadow189> hi all , i've just install icewm , but when i click to start menu i've to click again to open other menus , now i want to open submenu when my mouse foucus them
[08:27] <sethk> dragonfyre13, I like it, actually, but I wasn't seriously suggesting it.  :)
[08:27] <holycow> phonics, i have many gnome machines, none of them have done that
[08:27] <holycow> phonics, i'm betting you hosed your install
[08:27] <phonics> ArrenLex, if only i hadn't just ended a relationship with Debian sid and KDE, I might agree.
[08:27] <harrism> I have that one installed :/ would it matter if I am running amd 64 bit?
[08:27] <ghostshadow189> and how can i make icewm's font  bigger ?
[08:27] <holycow> either that or your running edgy and did something dumb
[08:27] <dragonfyre13> sethk: It's OK, just sparks a lot of debate when I put it down. ^_^
[08:27] <Mr> holycow
[08:28] <phonics> holycow, no and no
[08:28] <holycow> let me guess you tried compiling your own gnome and installing it right?
[08:28] <sethk> dragonfyre13, slow night.  :)
[08:28] <Flannel> ghostshadow189: #icewm is the best place to ask
[08:28] <Mr> I want to run a shell script and nothings happening whats wrong?
[08:28] <ghostshadow189> oh i didn't know that room :D
[08:28] <dragonfyre13> sethk: not really. I just get on here for fun anyway, and it I help newbies in the process, then great. ^_^
[08:28] <ArrenLex> harrism: is there a 64-bit mupen?
[08:28] <reverie> Morning guys
[08:28] <zachhale> which debootstrap do i want to use for manually installing ubuntu
[08:28] <sethk> harrism, if you have the library, then you have to adjust the library path so the program can find it.
[08:28] <ArrenLex> Mr: run it from the terminal. It may not be graphical.
[08:28] <dragonfyre13> reverie: evening reverie.
[08:29] <kmitch87> Mr: did you make the script executable
[08:29] <Flannel> !tell zachhale about install
[08:29] <DaveyJ> my sound vanished :( is there a way to reload the sound driver or module?
[08:29] <ArrenLex> sethk: the library is part of a debian package. It's set up properly.
[08:29] <Mr> no
[08:29] <Mr> how do i do that
[08:29] <reverie> I know it's not very polite to just come here and ask questions..
[08:29] <reverie> but I have a really, really strange problem with Dapper
[08:29] <phonics> holycow, i may have done something dumb, but precisely which action is quesitonable. I have not been trying to install my own gnome tho
[08:29] <ArrenLex> reverie: that's what we're here for! :D
[08:29] <cntb> DaveyJ: dont know try restart
[08:29] <dragonfyre13> reverie: Sitting at the ready!
[08:29] <zachhale> Flannel: that doesnt help me
[08:29] <holycow> phonics, allright i'll buy that for now although i'm giving you the evil eye
[08:30] <holycow> :)
[08:30] <sethk> ArrenLex, the only way to get that error is if the library is not in the library path (or it isn't there in the first place, or it is damaged)
[08:30] <zachhale> i'm already following the guide, but i'm not sure which debootstrap to use
[08:30] <reverie> dragonfyre13, at the ready? lol
[08:30] <dragonfyre13> cntb: restarts are for hardware installations.. ^_^
[08:30] <holycow> phonics, have you dist upgraded lately? what are  you running, dapper or edgy?
[08:30] <Mr> how do i make a shell script a exe
[08:30] <cntb> meaning in the past did nothing and it came back as for the exact reason dont know
[08:30] <Flannel> zachhale: you sure?  there's a deb... ah.  well, you could check the version in ubuntu, (packages.ubuntu.com)
[08:30] <cntb> hope it helps
[08:30] <harrism> don't see a 64 bit version, how can I go about adjusting the library path? I wonder if this is related.. when I migraged to my new machine I tried running a game I wrote in sdl but I had to compile it again first.. hm
[08:30] <zachhale> Flannel: there are udeb's and non-udebs
[08:30] <printk> Mr: still haven't ran the script?  Open a terminal.  Go to the script.  type "sudo chmod +x <script_file>" thne type "./<scriptfile"
[08:30] <kmitch87> Mr: chmod +x
[08:30] <ArrenLex> sethk: He's running an AMD64 system. If he has the wrong arch library, he'll get the same message.
[08:30] <dragonfyre13> reverie: sitting ready to answer your questions, so long as I know the answer, and feel like typing some more. ^_^
[08:31] <reverie> Dapper installs on my box, but it hangs (will get you the kernel error now) and sometimes after allt his my pc won't post when i reboot it
[08:31] <phonics> holycow, dapper - i'm done with experimental things! I'll admit I *have* been trying to switch from "ati" to "fglrx" lately, but it complains that i'm not running xorg 6.8 even tho it's suppose dot be for 7.0...
[08:31] <ArrenLex> harrism: so you're trying to run a 32-bit mupen on a 64-bit ubuntu?
[08:31] <reverie> "Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address "
[08:31] <sethk> ArrenLex, true
[08:31] <holycow> phonics, if its dapper do a dist-upgrade and see if anything is upgraded
[08:31] <dragonfyre13> harrism: that's just wrong.
[08:31] <Gabby_Hayes> ArrenLex  .. I just installed the defaults off of a dapper DVD  onto an AMD64 ... but haven't tried to do any 64-bit stuff, yet
[08:32] <ACU> guys, do you know how to use wget to get along with web the .rm realmedia webstream ?
[08:32] <holycow> phonics, are all your repos official or do you have custom stuff in there?
[08:32] <sethk> ArrenLex, I think he's knowlegable enough to have avoided that pitfall
[08:32] <ArrenLex> Gabby: what? o_o
[08:32] <phonics> holycow, i've dist-upgraded recently, I have universe and multiverse but that's it
[08:32] <dragonfyre13> ACU nope. Get streamripper.
[08:32] <holycow> ACU, just so that you know a .rm file is just a tiny pointer file that tells the player where the stream is
[08:32] <reverie> after this i have to re-seat my grfaphics card to get it to boot
[08:32] <holycow> you won't be able to grab a stream with wget
[08:32] <harrism> but it seems related to my other problem.. I had to recompile my raycaster to launch it. Does anyone kmnow of an N64 alternate?
[08:32] <reverie> there's no hardware issue i can see, as winxp runs just fine
[08:32] <holycow> you need an app that can suck in a rm stream and spit out a static file
[08:32] <ArrenLex> sethk: I quote: "harrism: don't see a 64 bit version," That means that something, somewhere, is 32-bit.
[08:32] <mikeh_> sethk: i am going to try the -386 kernel to see if it still does it
[08:32] <Robin1931> can anyone tell me how i uninstall a program which i installed with the binary? please pm me...thanks
[08:33] <sethk> reverie, that's a hardware issue.
[08:33] <sethk> mikeh_, good idea
[08:33] <holycow> phonics, allright.  now what does gdm do? what error message does it give you?
[08:33] <printk> Robin1931: sudo apt-get remove <package>
[08:33] <dragonfyre13> reverie: looking.
[08:33] <reverie> sethk, it onlydoes this when i try install linux
[08:33] <czer323> !bugreport
[08:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bugreport - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <zachhale> anyone know which debootstrap to use, debootstrap or debootstrap-udeb
[08:33] <reverie> even if i'm not in X, and I stop the X session completely it still hangs randomly
[08:33] <reverie> Knoppix runs just great
[08:34] <dragonfyre13> this is during post, during use, what?
[08:34] <dragonfyre13> reverie: this is during post, during use, what?
[08:34] <sethk> ArrenLex, actually I think he's running something that was linked against a different arch, or a different path.  remember that the library path can be compiled into the running binary
[08:34] <reverie> the kernel error is during use
[08:34] <raiXer> what is with this error? Error activating XKB configuration.
[08:34] <reverie> after i get this kernel issue\, sometimes, my box will not post when i reboot
[08:34] <phonics> holycow, it's not that GDM gives me an error, it's that if I do ctrl-alt-backspace i go to the GDM login and my gnome apps stay alive
[08:34] <reverie> my hardware is fine
[08:34] <reverie> this only seems to happen with dapper
[08:34] <sethk> ArrenLex, but you are probably correct, rereading what he said.
[08:34] <phonics> holycow, this makes logging in again problematic :)
[08:34] <dragonfyre13> reverie: use synaptic and reinstall the kernel. That worked for me way back when.
[08:34] <reverie> i've tried 64bit (its a 64bit cpu)
[08:34] <holycow> phonics, *umm*
[08:34] <ArrenLex> sethk: exactly, I think he's running a 32-bit mupen on a 64-bit system, which means his 32-bit mupen is looking for a 32-bit libsdl and finding a 64-bit it can't handle, causing that error.
[08:35] <se7enworth> hi. I put that line into fstab and did a reboot but still nothing mounted in /media
[08:35] <holycow> no your gnome apps don't stay alive
[08:35] <se7enworth> other than cd roms of course
[08:35] <holycow> infat
[08:35] <reverie> dragonfyre13, I can barely get into the box let alone get into aptitute
[08:35] <holycow> infact you that is exactly what is supposed to happen, restart x and bring you back to the login screen
[08:35] <phonics> holycow, huh?
[08:35] <SeraVitae> how can i determine where $JAVA_HOME is?
[08:35] <sethk> phonics, I'm not quite sure what you mean by gnome apps staying alive.  going to the gdm login when you press control-alt-backspace is exactly what is supposed to happen.
[08:35] <Robin1931> printK: that didn't work, i didn't install it using any package manager
[08:35] <reverie> are there known issues with nforce cfhipsets?
[08:35] <holycow> phonics, its impossible for gnome apps to stay alive, it doesn't happen
[08:35] <dragonfyre13> ArrenLex: sethk: wait, he's emulating a 32 bit system, to emulate a 64 bit system, all on a 64 bit system to begin with? That's just wrong.
[08:35] <phonics> holycow, sethk, correct, but they are still alive in the old session
[08:35] <reverie> its an nfroce 3 250 chipset
[08:35] <printk> Robin1931: oh well then you gotta remove it yourself
[08:36] <sethk> dragonfyre13, yes,
[08:36] <Nothing_About> Hey
[08:36] <dragonfyre13> reverie: try an earlier kernel. Is it a fresh install?
[08:36] <holycow> phonics, not possible, the session is destroyed upon key command
[08:36] <Nothing_About> can anyone help me out with a problem
[08:36] <phonics> holycow, tell that to my "ps x"
[08:36] <reverie> gpu is a geforce 6800gt
[08:36] <Robin1931> printk: how do u do that exactly?
[08:36] <reverie> dragonfyre13, fresh install
[08:36] <Nothing_About> OK im trying to install ubuntu
[08:36] <phonics> holycow, that's what I thought too!
[08:36] <printk> Robin1931: *shrugs* whereever you intalled it to, i guess rm it? :)
[08:36] <reverie> dragonfyre13, like, the install process hangs just after choosing language
[08:36] <Nothing_About> on my lame laptop
[08:36] <ArrenLex> dragonfyre: I couldn't call a Nintendo64 a "64-bit system" without laughing. Could you? =P
[08:36] <Nothing_About> 700mhz and 128 mb ram
[08:36] <holycow> so what happens when you try to log in?
[08:36] <dragonfyre13> reverie: ah.
[08:36] <reverie> i had to use the DVD version of dapper to do a text only install
[08:36] <se7enworth> anybody got any other suggestions about mounting hda1 pls?
[08:36] <Nothing_About> problem is
[08:36] <se7enworth> ntfs volume?
[08:37] <ArrenLex> !enter
[08:37] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[08:37] <Nothing_About> i didnt know it goes into live cd mode
[08:37] <phonics> holycow, panel fails to start, settings act weird, none of the panel applets work...
[08:37] <sethk> reverie, try getting into the box in text mode, and doing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:37] <dragonfyre13> reverie: ah. You've tried doing the integrity check, and burning a new disk and stuff right?
[08:37] <Robin1931> printk: i searched my drive for 'firefox' and deleted the dir it found but firefox will still run
[08:37] <dragonfyre13> reverie: cause you're looking at a kernel error.
[08:37] <Flannel> Nothing_About: you want the alternate ISO, not the desktop
[08:37] <Gabby_Hayes> Nothing_About  .. do you see an "install" icon on the desktop?
[08:37] <captine> ArrenLex: sorry to bug, but reiserfsck --rebuild-sb is asking me questions and i don't know answers i.e. enter block size??? do i just use defaults?
[08:37] <dfgas> do voodoo cards works in linux? (still)
[08:37] <Nothing_About> yeh
[08:37] <Nothing_About> problem is
[08:37] <reverie> dragonfyre13, yep, i had origional cds from shippiit
[08:37] <dragonfyre13> dfgas: yes.
[08:37] <holycow> phonics, my guesstimate is that you borked something and don't realize it ... at this point i personally would decide to reinstall and get the system back to a nice even playing ground.
[08:37] <phonics> holycow, right now i'm using console login so the 3-key-salute can mean something again :)
[08:37] <Nothing_About> it is still loading
[08:37] <reverie> this happens on the 32bit and 64bit versions of Ubuntu and Kubuntu
[08:38] <Nothing_About> and it has cut out my monitor
[08:38] <holycow> tracking something like that down would take more work than its worth imho
[08:38] <ArrenLex> captine: I don't know anything about reiserfs. I don't want to say anything for fear of steering you wrong. Sorry. = /
[08:38] <Nothing_About> and now i have no signal
[08:38] <phonics> holycow, i've only had it installed for like 3 weeks
[08:38] <dragonfyre13> reverie: ok, and you tried the media check function on the CD?
[08:38] <sethk> captine, reiserfs is unstable when used as a root file system.
[08:38] <Flannel> Nothing_About: You want the alternate CD, its a  nice textmode installer, etc
[08:38] <reverie> dragonfyre13, yep
[08:38] <ChocoCid> i actually have ctrlaltdel in metacity set to bring up gnome-system-manager
[08:38] <captine> ArrenLex: cool.  shot :)
[08:38] <printk> Robin1931: i suggest getting support through firefox themselves.  But if you say firefox is stilling running it's in your $PATH.  SO I'd check /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin to start with
[08:38] <sethk> captine, best to not use it that way (or not use it at all)
[08:38] <Mr> Ummm
[08:38] <dfgas> dragonfyre13, cool, its going in my newer server i am getting
[08:38] <holycow> phonics, yeah well, you can have it installed for 3 minutes and still do something to bork it, just a suggestion anyway
[08:38] <dragonfyre13> reverie: I got a bad burn once, from shipit, so...
[08:38] <Nothing_About> yeh problem i dont know what to do
[08:38] <captine> Anyone able to help with Reiserfsck???
[08:38] <Mr> I still been trying to run it
[08:38] <dragonfyre13> dfgas: sounds good!
[08:38] <Nothing_About> since its still loading the live cd
[08:38] <phonics> holycow, i totally agree with the too much effort analysis :)
[08:38] <Mr> type "sudo chmod +x <script_file>" thne type "./<scriptfile"
[08:38] <Nothing_About> and my monitor has no signal
[08:38] <Nothing_About> should i leave it
[08:38] <Mr> for script file i put file.ss
[08:38] <Mr> ?
[08:38] <ArrenLex> Robin: what problem are you having with firefox?
[08:38] <Nothing_About> and maybe it will start working
[08:38] <Robin1931> printk: i'll have a look in those dirs, tnank you
[08:39] <dragonfyre13> reverie: are you doing anything screwy, hardware wise?
[08:39] <printk> Mr: whatever the name of the script is
[08:39] <Nothing_About> or do something else
[08:39] <Flannel> Nothing_About: just power down, not going to break anyting ;)
[08:39] <se7enworth> thx you guys are a great help
[08:39] <kmitch87> Nothing_About: only thing to do is to turn it off
[08:39] <captine> sethk: problem is, my machine was running slackware.  the drive that is in reiser format is my home drive, with all doc's etc
[08:39] <Dyegov> I need someone to help me with my resolution, it's only 640x480 :(
[08:39] <Nothing_About> ok
[08:39] <phonics> holycow, but part of the reason I even use linux is to track down problems like this and make sure nobody else gets rammed by them
[08:39] <reverie> dragonfyre13, yeah, ive tired 4 cds here, and the same cds have installed fine on other machines
[08:39] <Gabby_Hayes> Nothing_About  .. reboot, and choose a text install
[08:39] <Nothing_About> is there a way i can install the linux without going to live cd
[08:39] <Flannel> !tell Dyegov about fixres
[08:39] <Nothing_About> text install
[08:39] <holycow> phonics, ditto, i love being able to solve problems
[08:39] <Flannel> Nothing_About: alternate ISO
[08:39] <sethk> captine, at this point, you have to recover it, granted.  afterwards, it would be a good idea to ditch it.
[08:39] <dragonfyre13> reverie: hmmmmm.
[08:39] <sethk> captine, you have to say yes to all the questions, normally.
[08:39] <phonics> holycow, so how do these friggin processes stay alive??? :(
[08:39] <sethk> captine, if you want to ask about a specific prompt, go ahead.
[08:40] <captine> sethk: what about the block size thing?
[08:40] <holycow> phonics, ironically, because everything is free reinstalling just is easier on linux than on certain other platforms
[08:40] <Nothing_About> ok well is there any commands i must type while in text install
[08:40] <Nothing_About> to start things up
[08:40] <phonics> holycow, so true
[08:40] <Nothing_About> because im very new to the linux world
[08:40] <sethk> captine, sorry, I didn't see it, can you write it again?
[08:40] <Nothing_About> and not sure on how to install linux
[08:40] <Flannel> Nothing_About: you'll have to hit enter at the beginning, because there are different install types
[08:40] <dragonfyre13> reverie: OK, well as far as hardware, the only thing that the CD is touching should be the CD, RAM, and the display. No hard drive, or anything else.
[08:40] <Nothing_About> ok
[08:40] <holycow> phonics, well i don't thinkt hey stay alive i think they get restarted in the background along with gdm and x
[08:40] <Gabby_Hayes> Nothing_About  ... the CD will have choices
[08:40] <Lilandra> Hi all
[08:40] <sethk> Nothing_About, when you choose the text mode install, it will prompt you
[08:40] <Nothing_About> yes ive seen
[08:40] <BluR> !info python-apt
[08:40] <dragonfyre13> reverie: do a ram check, though you've probably already done one, and let it run a few times through.
[08:40] <reverie> dragonfyre13, yeah
[08:40] <ubotu> python-apt: Python interface to libapt-pkg. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.16.2ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 116 kB
[08:41] <holycow> phonics,  but i've not really hacked around that kinda thing a lot so hard to tell.  gnome devs might be able to give more detailed info
[08:41] <Robin1931> printk: there was a firefox file in /usr/bin/ :)
[08:41] <Nothing_About> ok so turn off my laptop
[08:41] <Nothing_About> and start install again
[08:41] <Tru7h> What are the advantages of booting up in safe graphics mode?
[08:41] <captine> sethk: it is asking me what block size  to use (after i typed reiserfsck --rebuild-sb).  It has [4096]  as a recommendation
[08:41] <Flannel> Nothing_About: it walks you through it pretty well.  And, worst case is you did something wrong, and you can fix it, or install again ;)  Most people reinstall after a month once theyve figured stuff out, to undo all the mistakes ;)
[08:41] <reverie> dragonfyre13, ran memtest86 , all fine for about 10 passes
[08:41] <holycow> phonics, just because you see them doesn't meen they haven't restarted
[08:41] <dragonfyre13> reverie: hmmmmmm.
[08:41] <reverie> dragonfyre13, also this ONLY ever happens with Dapper
[08:41] <Robin1931> firefox seems to be gone, thank you :D
[08:41] <Flannel> Tru7h: none of your gnome startup stuff is run, if you have a bad script or whatnot
[08:41] <printk> Robin1931: np
[08:41] <sethk> phonics, specifically, which processes stay alive?
[08:41] <TWiSTEDSO> hi all , i want to run higher resolution than 1024 , how do i add more modes ?
[08:41] <Nothing_About> ok
[08:41] <Mr> its not working
[08:41] <Nothing_About> so when i have the menu pop up
[08:41] <Nothing_About> before install
[08:41] <Lilandra> Is there a PPC linux/ubuntu specific channel?
[08:41] <Nothing_About> i press a key
[08:41] <reverie> dragonfyre13, so i'm guessing its the kernel release conflicts with some hardware, i even tried booting the cd without having my tv card, sndcard and nic installed
[08:41] <Nothing_About> to stop count down
[08:41] <printk> Mr: what's not working about it?  what kind of script is this?
[08:42] <ArrenLex> TWiSTEDSO: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and add more resolutions. Or else edit your /etc/x11/xorg.conf and add them manually.
[08:42] <Nothing_About> then i choose text install
[08:42] <Gabby_Hayes> Tru7h  ... you can get what packages or drivers you need installed, then go to a regular mode.
[08:42] <Nothing_About> and follow the prompts
[08:42] <kmitch87> TWiStEDSO: does your monitor support higher modes?
[08:42] <sethk> Mr,  give us some context, look at the rate questions fly about here.
[08:42] <Flannel> Nothing_About: no, no.  this is an entire other disk, Alternate ISO, you have the Desktop ISO
[08:42] <phonics> holycow, sethk, all of them seem to - bonobo-activation, gnome-* etc
[08:42] <printk> Mr: you might need to seek help from the authors of lampp... what is lampp... I don't think it's in ubuntu
[08:42] <Nothing_About> ok
[08:42] <sethk> phonics, that's not necessarily wrong
[08:42] <Nothing_About> so i cant go into desktop iso and install in text mode
[08:42] <phonics> holycow, sethk, I haven't been rigorous enough to track tho
[08:42] <reverie> dragonfyre13, it just behaves weirdly, i did get into X a few times after the installation went through eventually, i try run something simple like xterm or whatever, and it just dissapears
[08:42] <dragonfyre13> reverie: file a bug report is the only thing I can think of. It's not a hardware issue, it's a kernel issue. It's trying to write to a non-existant area. Does this only happen on the live CD, or with the text based installer?
[08:42] <Lilandra> anybody?
[08:42] <Flannel> Nothing_About: correct.  the desktop ISO is a liveCd primarily
[08:42] <sethk> phonics, it's normal for the corba layer and other middleware to continue to run.
[08:42] <Flannel> Lilandra: nope, this is it.
[08:43] <Lilandra> oh ok
[08:43] <Nothing_About> ok
[08:43] <phonics> sethk, what??? aren't the child procs?
[08:43] <ArrenLex> Wow, lots of people are talking today. My head hurts from trying to keep up.
[08:43] <phonics> sethk, s/the/they
[08:43] <reverie> dragonfyre13, the text based installer seems to install with no errors
[08:43] <Lilandra> does anybody know about appletouch?
[08:43] <kmitch87> Nothing_About: at the boot prompt try safe mode
[08:43] <Nothing_About> but if i download the alternate iso , will i have any problems with my monitor while install
[08:43] <sethk> phonics, not all, no.  what problem do you think these processes are causing?
[08:43] <holycow> phonics, actually no they aren't
[08:43] <dragonfyre13> reverie: It's a liveCD kernel issue.
[08:43] <Nothing_About> what safe graphical mode
[08:43] <ArrenLex> Lilandra: you can run it using the synaptics touchpad driver, but it will have only basic functionality.
[08:43] <Flannel> Nothing_About: probably not, no.
[08:43] <Mr> sudo chmod <lampp> ./home/jones/desktop/lampp is what i put and it says no such file or dir
[08:43] <reverie> dragonfyre13, but the kernel dapper boots with after the installer isn't the livecd kernel surely?
[08:43] <Nothing_About> ok
[08:44] <Lilandra> how about the dragging of the cursor? can i fix that?
[08:44] <phonics> holycow, sethk you guys are rocking my world.
[08:44] <Tru7h> Nothing_About: From what they've just told me, it's used for installing drivers and such while avoiding bad scripts.
[08:44] <Nothing_About> how much Ram does this linux require
[08:44] <Flannel> Mr: have you read the lamp howto page?
[08:44] <printk> Mr: no no that's wrong
[08:44] <Flannel> Nothing_About: you actually might want to consider xubuntu, instead of ubuntu
[08:44] <phonics> holycow, sethk, the problem is that I never have a normal session again, i have to restart gdm
[08:44] <ArrenLex> Lilandra: have you googled?
[08:44] <Gabby_Hayes> Nothing_About  .. ubuntu at it's first graphics screen will have about 4-5 menus choices ... pick safe mode,  or the text mode
[08:44] <Lilandra> yes but they're confusing
[08:44] <Lilandra> i mean i'm confused.
[08:44] <dragonfyre13> reverie: Sorry, I meant Default kernel issue. The kernel that the livecd boots with is the same one that it installs initially, but just recompiled for livecd use.
[08:44] <kyja> lol
[08:44] <Nothing_About> so whats the difference with xubuntu and ubuntu ?
[08:44] <kyja> !test again
[08:44] <ubotu> Failed again.
[08:44] <Lilandra> and i'm not too sure what i'm confused about.
[08:44] <printk> Mr: don't actually use < > in the file name unless it's called <lamp> and no need to use ./ < notice the period.  The period is only if you're in the present working directory.  If you supply the full path /home/blah/blah then that's all you type to run it
[08:45] <reverie> dragonfyre13, ah ok
[08:45] <ArrenLex> Lilandra: what are you confused by? If you give us a link to a tutorial, we might be able to explain it.
[08:45] <ChocoCid> xubuntu uses XCFE instead of GNOME
[08:45] <Lilandra> i will try again and come back with specific answers
[08:45] <holycow> phonics, the problem in tracking down the root of your issue is that you need to track back to a mysterious something that happened to your setup.
[08:45] <Nothing_About> brb
[08:45] <Flannel> Nothing_About: xfce instead of gnome, it's more lightweight.  (the window manager, the main GUI thing)
[08:45] <Nothing_About> need to check on laptop
[08:45] <Dyegov> I need to fix my resolution because it's 680x460 and what the bot told me didn't work :(
[08:45] <ChocoCid> basically, the window manager isn't as large so it'll take less memory to run
[08:45] <Lilandra> ArrenLex: I will try again and see where I get stopped
[08:45] <holycow> i say stop worrying and reinstall.  if it happens again you will have a base experience to further track it down if it happens again
[08:45] <reverie> dragonfyre13, if its any help, the thing that made my box not post after it hung was when i tried booting with nolapic noapic
[08:45] <ArrenLex> Dyegov: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:45] <phonics> holycow, well, i haven't done too much outside of aptitude tho, so that shouldn't be *too* hard
[08:45] <BluR> !info ifrename
[08:45] <ubotu> ifrename: Rename network interfaces based on various static criteria. In component universe, is optional. Version 27+28pre13-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 51 kB, installed size 176 kB
[08:45] <TWiSTEDSO> do i need to restart xserver for adding new modes ?
[08:45] <ArrenLex> Dyegov: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:46] <BluR> !info iproute
[08:46] <ubotu> iproute: Professional tools to control the networking in Linux kernels. In component main, is important. Version 20041019-4ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 949 kB, installed size 1512 kB
[08:46] <kmitch87> TWiSTEDSO: yes
[08:46] <ArrenLex> TWiSTEDSO: yes
[08:46] <ArrenLex> xD
[08:46] <printk> Mr: if you type ./home/blah/blah that means whatever directory i'm in now, go to home/blah/blah from there..  so don't use the period.
[08:46] <Mr> it says go to linux shell and login as the system admin root where that at?
[08:46] <andrew__1> Hey pals, I just rebooted my server and now mysql has the error "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111)" I'm using Ubuntu 6.06 and mysql-4.1
[08:46] <dragonfyre13> reverie: it's conflicting with your hardware in some way give the output of dmesg on the other linux distro on the machine with the bugreport, as well as what you just told me. Specifically how you got it to not post. They should be able to figure it out.
[08:46] <BluR> !info bc
[08:46] <ubotu> bc: The GNU bc arbitrary precision calculator language. In component main, is optional. Version 1.06-19ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 64 kB, installed size 188 kB
[08:46] <printk> Mr: ok type "sudo /home/path/to/script" to run it, if it needs to be ran as root
[08:46] <dragonfyre13> reverie: as much as I hate it, I'm not familiar with the kernel code for ubuntu yet.
[08:46] <holycow> Mr, there is no root in ubuntu first so thats one bit of the confusion
[08:46] <phonics> sethk, holycow should I take this to #gnome?
[08:47] <holycow> Mr, second, it the terminal undr apps / accessoreis / terminal
[08:47] <printk> Mr: I really suggest reading some beginner tutorials on common linux commands etc....
[08:47] <phonics> holycow, sethk or is this an ubuntu issue?
[08:47] <holycow> Mr, third instead of logging in as root just type sudo before every command,that will execute it as root
[08:47] <reverie> dragonfyre13, thanks though, i appreciate the effort ;)
[08:47] <dragonfyre13> reverie: you could install it, and then grab the kernel off on the other distro, then just do a replace.
[08:47] <Flannel> Mr: Ubuntu has a nice howto on installing LAMP, and I'm sure there's one on Perl, that should do it for you, right?
[08:47] <Flannel> !tell Mr about lamp
[08:47] <printk> well there is root in ubuntu, just no password set by default
[08:47] <reverie> if i could just get the box stable enough to upgrade the kerenel i think that would help
[08:47] <holycow> phonics, no i really think this is a phonics issue ... i don't really get why you want to spend time tracking down something you did :)
[08:47] <dragonfyre13> the kernel off the ubuntu repo that is.
[08:47] <dragonfyre13> reverie the kernel off the ubuntu repo that is.
[08:47] <Nothing_About> ok
[08:47] <Nothing_About> im back
[08:48] <reverie> dragonfyre13, yeah that was the first thing i tried to apt-get :)
[08:48] <Nothing_About> well the laptop is still trying to run ubuntu
[08:48] <Nothing_About> but no luck
[08:48] <holycow> phonics, i mean that jokingly of course :)
[08:48] <zachhale> anyone know a livecd with the 2.6.18 kernel that i can install the debootstrap from?
[08:48] <ArrenLex> !enter > Nothing_About
[08:48] <Nothing_About> so i will download xubuntu
[08:48] <dragonfyre13> reverie:  that would likely fix it. Just replace it manually.
[08:48] <Gabby_Hayes> beauty sleep time ... thanks for all the help .... take care ... have fun ...
[08:48] <reverie> well lets hope she boots
[08:48] <Nothing_About> enter what ?
[08:49] <phonics> holycow, i'd normally agree! but i've sworn off trying to have a useful commputer that I hack to bits, so this install is pretty clean
[08:49] <ArrenLex> Nothing_About: the enter key. Stop using it like a comma.
[08:49] <reverie> brb
[08:49] <dragonfyre13> reverie: if not, what are you out? It's not like you took a step back.... ^_^
[08:49] <Nothing_About> ok
[08:49] <holycow> phonics, i beg to differ considreing your issues
[08:49] <dragonfyre13> reverie: ohhhhhh. I forgot, bad post.
[08:49] <ChocoCid> Nothing_About : do you already have normal ubuntu installed?
[08:49] <mikeh_> how do i know if i am using both processors on my moboard
[08:50] <holycow> phonics, your issues do not poitn to anything but you ... just going by my set of experiences :)  i believe you really think its clean but i'm betting you changed something somewhere without remembering :)
[08:50] <Nothing_About> no im in the process of installing ubuntu
[08:50] <holycow> hehe
[08:50] <ChocoCid> ah, ok
[08:50] <ChocoCid> yeah, it's definitely a good idea to get xubuntu if you have a low-power system
[08:50] <ArrenLex> mikeh: cat /proc/cpuinfo. If you see two entries, you're using two processors.
[08:50] <ArrenLex> mikeh: if you only see one, install an -smp kernel.
[08:50] <Nothing_About> but the live cd started insted of an option where i can choose to install ubuntu without going into live cd mode
[08:50] <Mr> wow
[08:50] <ChocoCid> the live cd is supposed to start up
[08:50] <dragonfyre13> ChocoCid: xubuntu is nice. I'd recommend it even to someone who had a mid powered system.
[08:50] <holycow> phonics, as well setting up another 'clean' install and watching for this issue is actually a good way to trouble shoot it to be honest
[08:51] <ChocoCid> dragonfyre13 : i tried it, didn't like xcfe - or kde
[08:51] <Mr> So what do you recomend i do now since it doesnt have root
[08:51] <Tru7h> Is it normal for Ubuntu to take about a half hour to boot up from a live CD on an old machine?
[08:51] <holycow> Mr, *ummm* i told you
[08:51] <holycow> Mr, there is NO NEED for root
[08:51] <Tru7h> Half hour and counting, that is.
[08:51] <ChocoCid> !rootsudo > mr
[08:51] <mikeh_> AreenLex: can i use SMP on -386 kernel
[08:51] <holycow> root was not made accessible for a reason, to protect you from your self
[08:51] <holycow> noobs are notorious for hosing their systems
[08:51] <dream> how do i remove the blank screensaver on dapper?
[08:51] <dragonfyre13> ChocoCid: I don't personally like KDE, though some of the apps are great. I do like XFCE once it's modded though. Oh, and I have to have Thunar file manager. Can't deal with Rox.
[08:52] <ChocoCid> Nothing_About : if you already have the ubuntu live cd, you can install it and then install xubuntu-desktop afterwards
[08:52] <holycow> Mr, like mikeh_ said, just type in sudo before each command that needs to be executed as root
[08:52] <Nothing_About> the thing is i dont know why but while it was loading the live cd , on my laptop my monitor just lost signal i didnt know what process was trying to run while kernal was loading
[08:52] <dragonfyre13> ChocoCid: oh, by the way, Gnome still blows both out of the water.
[08:52] <ArrenLex> mikeh: no; only -686 kernels are available with smp.
[08:52] <holycow> Mr, as well, i already told you this, i don't like repeating my self
[08:52] <Mr> Ok
[08:52] <ChocoCid> GNOME is hotness :D
[08:52] <Nothing_About> yeh but how do i install ubuntu without going into live cd
[08:52] <dragonfyre13> reverie: did it post?
[08:52] <kmitch87> dream: System ---> Preferences ----> Screensaver
[08:52] <Mr> whats the extention for shell script
[08:52] <Nothing_About> and ive tried the first option on the menu
[08:52] <ChocoCid> uh, you probably missed the screen with options
[08:52] <dragonfyre13> Mr: sh
[08:52] <dream> there is no screensaver in preferences
[08:52] <Nothing_About> and thats just went onto live cd
[08:52] <ChocoCid> it's got like 30 seconds to make a choice between 5 options, if you do nothing then it'll go to the default
[08:52] <printk> Mr: please try to pay attention, this channel is full of text.  If you're going to ask a question pay attention.  Many people told you many times to use sudo before the command
[08:52] <holycow> Nothing_About, download the alternate cd and use the other installer
[08:53] <kmitch87> dream: yea, there should be
[08:53] <holycow> Nothing_About, alternate cd has the old di installer, its fantastic, although ugly
[08:53] <reverie> damn
[08:53] <dream> i dont see it in dapper
[08:53] <reverie> still wont post
[08:53] <holycow> guaranteed to install on your machine provided it composed of supported hardware components
[08:53] <dream> kmitch, are you on dapper?
[08:53] <kmitch87> dream: i'm on edgy
[08:53] <Nothing_About> so i cant install ubuntu without going into live cd mode is that right ?
[08:53] <Tru7h> Nothing_About: That's right.
[08:53] <kmitch87> dream:  I don't think it should have changed though...
[08:53] <ArrenLex> Nothing_About: wrong. You just need to download a different CD.
[08:53] <holycow> Mr, on linux things don't really need extensions
[08:53] <dragonfyre13> reverie: take everything but  the MOBO, RAM out, and try. And go over to #Hardware. they are kick butt over there.
[08:54] <Tru7h> Nothing_About: Scratch that, I thought you said "can" not "can't".
[08:54] <printk> Mr: the extension of the shell script depends on the shell it's using.  for example bourne or bash shell use .sh extension.
[08:54] <Mr> ok
[08:54] <dream> kmitch, there is no screensaver on dapper
[08:54] <Tru7h> Nothing_About: You just need to use the alternate installer.
[08:54] <reverie> dragonfyre13, yeah i know :)
[08:54] <dream> kmitch is there another way to remove the blank screensaver
[08:54] <printk> Mr: and they don't always have extensions either... it's not necesary
[08:54] <holycow> Mr, on linux you ar basically making everything a command wher  thisprogram execsthisfile -withsomeparatemers
[08:54] <reverie> dragonfyre13, the beep i get indicates the vga card isn't plugged in
[08:54] <reverie> weird
[08:54] <reverie> ubuntu unplugs vga cards !
[08:54] <reverie> :)
[08:54] <holycow> Mr, so a bash script is executed as ./scriptname
[08:54] <dragonfyre13> reverie: hmmm.
[08:54] <SeraVitae> how can i locate $JAVA_HOME?
[08:54] <holycow> no need for extension
[08:54] <ArrenLex> SeraVitae: what is $JAVA_HOME?
[08:55] <Mr> its x-shellscript
[08:55] <dragonfyre13> reverie: try unplugging it, booting, plugging it in, and then booting.
[08:55] <holycow> what are you trying to do anyway?
[08:55] <Mr> install lampp
[08:55] <kmitch87> dream: I don't know of any other way
[08:55] <SeraVitae> ArrenLex - i assume it's the home folder of java.
[08:55] <mikeh_> how do i get SMP to work with a -386 kernel?
[08:55] <ArrenLex> SeraVitae: what do you mean by "home folder"?
[08:55] <holycow> ah ... thats a whole other thing, i can't help with that, i'm here to help out with installing and configuring ubuntu :)
[08:55] <holycow> maybe someone else knows
[08:55] <SeraVitae> I don't know. that's all i have to work with.
[08:56] <ArrenLex> mikeh: you don't. You have to install a 686 or k7 kernel. There are no 386 machines with more than one CPU!
[08:56] <SeraVitae> it's a variable so i assume it's wherever java was installed to.
[08:56] <Mr> ok
[08:56] <ArrenLex> SeraVitae: java installs to /usr/lib/jvm
[08:56] <Mr> thanks anyway
[08:56] <Mr> bbl
[08:56] <|chris3|> hi all
[08:56] <reverie> dragonfyre13, tried that too
[08:56] <holycow> mr no worries
[08:56] <dragonfyre13> reverie: hmmmm. Your computer doesn't like you. ^_^
[08:56] <ArrenLex> mikeh: apt-get install linux-image-686-smp
[08:57] <|chris3|> oddest thing I tried to install telnetd and now my resoltuions are gone
[08:58] <SeraVitae> ArrenLex - cool.
[08:58] <mikeh_> arrenlex: will a K7 kernel work on an intel cpu
[08:58] <SeraVitae> unfortunately the folder im supposed to stick this extention in, isn't there.
[08:58] <|chris3|> I have added them back to xorg.conf and restarted but they still do not show up in the list any ideas?
[08:58] <ArrenLex> mikeh: it will WORK, because the instructions are compatible, but you shouldn't use it. Use a 686 kernel on an intel CPI.
[08:58] <ArrenLex> U
[08:58] <dragonfyre13> mikeh_: I wouldn't try it.
[08:58] <TWiSTEDSO> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg did enter new res mode , did even restart the box , but i cant choose anything ?
[08:58] <reverie> dragonfyre13, microsoft went into partnership of my bios and now im naughty cause i ttried to put linux on it!
[08:58] <|chris3|> TWistedSo: same issue here
[08:58] <dragonfyre13> reverie: "Microsoft - we even screw up your hardware."
[08:58] <|chris3|> TWistedSo: i have no fix
[08:58] <akano1n> how can i set eth1 to default to use? not eth0
[08:58] <akano1n> i have to ifdown eth0 to get internet working here
[08:58] <kmitch87> dragonfyre13: lol
[08:59] <dragonfyre13> kmitch87: you like that?
[08:59] <kmitch87> yea;)
[09:00] <dragonfyre13> it just went silent in here.
[09:00] <holycow> akano1n, system / admin / networking, at the bottom it will have a pulldown to set the default eth device
[09:00] <ArrenLex> akano1n: edit the /etc/network/interfaces file and change the "eth0" default to "eth1".
[09:01] <TWiSTEDSO> anyone that got any hints how do solve the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg problems with adding higher resolutions ?
[09:01] <ArrenLex> TWiSTED: what problems are these?
[09:01] <dragonfyre13> TWiSTEDSO: nope.
[09:01] <dragonfyre13> TWiSTEDSO: ArrenLex might.
[09:01] <ArrenLex> TWiSTED: did you get to the part where you select new resolutions?
[09:01] <sidny4> TWiSTEDSO higher resolutions like widescreen resolutions?
[09:01] <akano1n> ArrenLex but i dont have anything inside interfaces that says eth0 default
[09:01] <holycow> TWiSTEDSO, easy.  google your monitor refresh rates, put the horiz and vetical refresh rates into your xorg.conf file
[09:01] <holycow> make sure to back it up first
[09:01] <ArrenLex> TWiSTEDSO: I'm going to say your nae because everyone's doing it.
[09:02] <|chris3|> ArrenLex: not matter what we have tried the new resolutions don't show up
[09:02] <holycow> no need to use dpkg-reconfigure
[09:02] <akano1n> just add default eth1 ?
[09:02] <TWiSTEDSO> arrenlex: cant add higher resolutions , did run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and added 1600x1200 and did restart nothing
[09:02] <dragonfyre13> I'll be back guys. Gotta kill the network for a minute.
[09:02] <holycow> then restart gdm and presto, all the resolution capabilities of your monitor will be available in the resolutio napplet
[09:02] <ArrenLex> akano1n: try holycow's way; he knows what he's talking about.
[09:02] <|chris3|> holycow: I have a plasma tv no google on the res rates
[09:02] <ArrenLex> TWoSTEDSO: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:02] <kmitch87> TWiSTEDSO: did you select from system, preferences, screen resolution?
[09:03] <holycow> |chris3|, you don't have a choice, you need proper frefresh rates for your display device
[09:03] <holycow> now the thing is ...
[09:03] <holycow> if its a plasma tv ... you may only get the minimal resolution capability
[09:03] <TWiSTEDSO> kmitc: yes system
[09:03] <holycow> if its not built for computer work it may not be able to handle all but the basic signal levels
[09:03] <akano1n> yeah i know, but its not working how holycow way, i want to set something inside interfaces to set manually
[09:04] <holycow> akano1n, i don't understand tha tlast statement
[09:04] <martynda> hi, i have installed apache2 and php5 through apt-get in ubuntu, but when i go to a php file, the browser tries to download it, can someone help me out?
[09:04] <|chris3|> ugh....  I hate to say this but windows xp looks great on the tv (dual boot box) and I didn't do anything special to windows to get it to work
[09:04] <holycow> akano1n, i'm just telling you how it works, you cannot get around how it works
[09:04] <ArrenLex> akano1n: if eth0 is your default, then it seems to me that just changing all instances of eth0 to eth1 in /etc/network/interfaces should make eth1 your default, no?
[09:04] <sethk> martynda, the apache configuration must specify that php files are executable scripts to be handled on the server side.
[09:04] <holycow> |chris3|, if xp works on your tv so will linux, it has nothing to do with anything but the components ability to handle the tv out signal
[09:05] <ArrenLex> chris3: do you know what resolution and refresh rate your plasma TV is using in Windows?
[09:05] <holycow> akano1n, how is your plasma tv connected to your computer?
[09:05] <akano1n> this is the problem, i have eth0 (wire) and eth1(wifi), i have to ifdown eth0 to get eth1(wifi) working..
[09:05] <ArrenLex> Oh.
[09:05] <sethk> martynda, in the apache config you'll find a place to add the extension php.  Any directory containing a php file must be specified in the apache config as a directory allowing executable scripts
[09:05] <|chris3|> ArrenLex 1280x768 60mhz
[09:05] <holycow> akano1n, oh sorry dude your not th eplasma guy :)
[09:05] <Nothing_About> NO WORRIES PEOPLE , ive fixed my problem
[09:05] <Nothing_About> i can now install ubuntu
[09:05] <ArrenLex> chirs3: I certainly hope it's not mhz XD
[09:05] <holycow> akano1n, i got you guys mixed up
[09:05] <holycow> sorry
[09:06] <martynda> thanks sethk, i didnt know it was per-directory
[09:06] <|chris3|> lol sorry
[09:06] <akano1n> so it seems that ubuntu is looking first for eth0, when i ifdown eth0, he tries eth1 and it works
[09:06] <ArrenLex> chris3: is the plasma your primary monitor?
[09:06] <|chris3|> arrenlex: yes and linux worked great at the resolution about an hour ago
[09:06] <ArrenLex> chris3: what did you change to make it break
[09:06] <JamieBE> Morning Everyone!
[09:07] <ArrenLex> Whoa, el spanisho.
[09:07] <|chris3|> arrenlex: I installed telnetd and restarted then my correct resoltion was gone
[09:07] <holycow> akano1n, in your /etc/network/interfaces file set auto to eth0 or eth1 ... whichever you want to be default
[09:07] <TWiSTEDSO> ArrenLex: http://pastebin.com/802338
[09:07] <ArrenLex> chris3: if you didn't touch your xorg.conf, try just pressing ctrl+alt+plus (i.e. the plus key on the numpad)
[09:07] <holycow> |chris3|, how is your plasma tv connected to your computer?  just curious
[09:08] <holycow> and since it works on xp then we should be able to get the same resolution here so it looks same
[09:08] <|chris3|> holycox: vga
[09:08] <holycow> what you need to know however is all displays have refresh rates .. and you cannot really (not without some serious haxology) set a resolution manually
[09:09] <holycow> how x works is you give it refresh rates for the potential resolutions, give it potential resolutions and restart x
[09:09] <|chris3|> holycow: please read my last comments to arrenlex about what caused this issue
[09:09] <JamieBE> A few questions this morning maybe some of you can help. Firstly, is there any reason why shares on my internal IDE hard disk share fine over my Samba network with other Windows machines, but my external USB2.0 drive shares all come back as inaccessible when I try to access them over the network?
[09:09] <holycow> what is happening is your default refresh rates calculate out to only that base resolution
[09:09] <dragonfyre13> I'm back
[09:09] <holycow> so you will need to find suitable refresh rates for your tv
[09:10] <akano1n> holycow, i have disable auto eth0, but when i restart, i got eth0 disable...hehehe.. not what i want
[09:10] <dragonfyre13> I'm not going to be active, but if you want me, PM me.
[09:10] <mztriz> how do I create a HFS+ partition I'm trying to dual with OSX
[09:10] <SeraVitae> could anyone suggest an email server for linux that i could use? i wish to setup an IMAP system so i can get my pop3 emails stored on my home server so i can browse them at uni
[09:10] <dragonfyre13> mztriz: you don't. Create it in OSX. It's proprietary.
[09:11] <SeraVitae> actually i'd like some fancy web interface one that had a calendar and stuff in it, but fat chance.
[09:11] <MikeyMike> dragonfyre13,  there's no way to create hfs+ partitions?
[09:11] <holycow> SeraVitae, you will need a couple of servers working together.  a great smtp server is postfix, an a great imap server is cyrus.
[09:11] <holycow> those will let you relay email and access via imap
[09:11] <loper06> please help. im trying 2 setup proftpd and have 2 users w/ different dir permisssions. but i can't get it working. help!
[09:11] <MikeyMike> how might one create it in osx if they do not have osx installed
[09:11] <ArrenLex> chris3: what happens when you press ctrl+alt+plus?
[09:11] <ArrenLex> chris3: what about ctrl+alt+minus?
[09:11] <holycow> you can add a web based interface for cyrus called squirrelmail, its sorta basic but works great
[09:12] <mztriz> dragonfyre13: I was reading this tutorial
[09:12] <mztriz> http://www.teachucomputers.blogspot.com/
[09:12] <SeraVitae> holycow - are they hard to setup?
[09:12] <kmitch87> MikeyMike: OS X automatically creates it in install
[09:12] <JamieBE> Is anyone please able to help with that issue I just mentioned?
[09:12] <holycow> SeraVitae, yes
[09:12] <Arafangion> SeraVitae: You seem to be confusing IMAP with POP3
[09:12] <ArrenLex> TWiSTEDSO: you still there?
[09:12] <SeraVitae> Arafangion - not really.
[09:12] <holycow> SeraVitae, why don't you just download the free version of zimbra
[09:12] <Arafangion> holycow: Cyrus sucks.
[09:12] <SeraVitae> i haev a pop3 account from my isp, which i wish to automatically download onto an imap server, locally.
[09:12] <manofcyrus> emm..
[09:12] <holycow> its all web gui ajaxy stuff and its free
[09:12] <Arafangion> SeraVitae: Ahh, I see.  Use postfix, dovecot, and fetchmail.
[09:13] <TWiSTEDSO> yes
[09:13] <holycow> dovecot?
[09:13] <holycow> dovecot?
[09:13] <holycow> dude what is wrong with you
[09:13] <holycow> SeraVitae, whatever you do don't listen to him
[09:13] <holycow> hehe :)
[09:13] <holycow> i kid!
[09:13] <SeraVitae> _
[09:13] <SeraVitae> so dovecot something to look at?
[09:13] <|chris3|> arrenlex: nothing...
[09:13] <ArrenLex> TWiSTEDSO: is that your ENTIRE xorg.conf?
[09:13] <SeraVitae> or not..
[09:13] <Arafangion> holycow: Dovecot, at the very least, lets you know when it's /not/ working ;)
[09:13] <ArrenLex> chris3: does X start at all for you right now?
[09:13] <holycow> if you want a quick setup tho get zimbra ... you can either install it with their installer or download the vmware appliance from vmware.com
[09:13] <Arafangion> holycow: Cyrus, on the other hand, is utterly silent - working or not
[09:14] <holycow> just google vmware appliance and in like 4 clicks you have it setup
[09:14] <loper06> please help. im trying 2 setup proftpd and have 2 users w/ different dir permisssions. if my home dir is /media/samba can i have user1 to have full access (d/l,u/l,delete, etc) while user2 can only download?
[09:14] <mztriz> kmitch87:http://www.teachucomputers.blogspot.com/ at the bottom of step 3 it says  . Create a new HFS+ partition that is 6 GB using a tool like Partition magic, QTparted, Gparted, etc.
[09:14] <SeraVitae> well see
[09:14] <SeraVitae> this server was a win2k server with mDeamon on it
[09:14] <SeraVitae> with web interface, all custom themes i made, nice n snazzy.
[09:14] <holycow> SeraVitae, yeah just blow that crap away
[09:14] <SeraVitae> so im almost tempted to just run vmware on this box
[09:14] <|chris3|> arrenlex: yes
[09:14] <SeraVitae> and just bring mdaemon back up :/
[09:14] <holycow> SeraVitae, install debian for server, vmware gives you a frewww vmware server to run
[09:14] <holycow> install that
[09:14] <holycow> then download the vmware image if zimbra and just go
[09:15] <holycow> zimbra.com
[09:15] <ArrenLex> chris3: with what resolution?
[09:15] <kmitch87> mztriz: last i checked, gparted didn't fully support hfs+
[09:15] <kmitch87> mztriz:  maybe it does though...
[09:15] <loper06> can some 1 help me with the question above i posted?  thx
[09:15] <mztriz> kmitch82: I know I've been looking around trying to find out how to do this...
[09:15] <|chris3|> arrenlex 1024x768
[09:15] <SeraVitae> ohh that zimbra thing looks sexy.
[09:16] <kmitch87> mztriz: download the gparted livecd
[09:16] <ArrenLex> chris3: and what are you trying to get up to?
[09:16] <MikeyMike> kmitch87,  she's in the live cd
[09:16] <holycow> actually its shit, its an all in one box that acts as ldap and messaging server.  i hate it on principle that its an all in one box, however, you seem to be asking for an all in one box
[09:16] <|chris3|> arrenlex 1280x768
[09:16] <holycow> doesn't sound like you want to roll your own
[09:16] <SeraVitae> holycow - let me see i fi can find a picture of my last setup
[09:16] <mztriz> kmitch82: I'm running off of the ubuntulive cd right now
[09:16] <SeraVitae> which i was pretty content with
[09:17] <Arafangion> What the heck? mdaemon counts as a "feature": Logging
[09:17] <mztriz> kmitch82: could I do this http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=512#3
[09:17] <JamieBE> Is there any reason why shares on my internal IDE hard disk share fine over my Samba network with other Windows machines, but my external USB2.0 drive shares all come back as inaccessible when I try to access them over the network?
[09:17] <|chris3|> arrenlex: that is the native display of my plasma with anything else makes it all streched out
[09:17] <ArrenLex> chirs3: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". Go to "medium" difficulty selection when you get to monitor settings and select 1280x768@60hz, or whatever you said Windows set it up safely as. Also make sure to enable that resolution in the resolution portion.
[09:17] <darrellmarlow> morning
[09:17] <loper06> can anybody w/ plenty of experince w/ proftpd help?
[09:17] <kmitch87> mztriz: i would use the gparted livecd, it uses a more updated partitioner
[09:17] <darrellmarlow> I just installed ubuntu for the first time and I am newb at linux
[09:18] <SeraVitae> Arafangion - mdaemon was nice
[09:18] <darrellmarlow> what do I need to do to play my .mp3 files?
[09:18] <ArrenLex> !mp3
[09:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:18] <SeraVitae> holy wowowow.
[09:18] <aSt3raL> darrellmarlow: xmms
[09:18] <SeraVitae> zimbra is like.
[09:18] <SeraVitae> EXACTLY what i wanted. i'm using thier demo now.
[09:18] <darrellmarlow> all music apps seem to not work
[09:18] <kmitch87> darrelmarlow: fluendo codec works
[09:18] <SeraVitae> it's like outlook only web based. PERFECT.
[09:18] <Arafangion> SeraVitae: Who the heck decides that "logging" is merely a feature added in version EIGHT of their server?
[09:18] <holycow> SeraVitae, windows weenies love that shit
[09:19] <SeraVitae> Arafangion - who the hell gets upset about pedantic things and misformed expectations?
[09:19] <SeraVitae> ie, go have a cry :P
[09:19] <darrellmarlow> is xmms difficult to install because Im super newb on linux
[09:19] <nailbags> hi all, how do i set my wireless ssid permantently in ubuntu? (from the command line)
[09:19] <ArrenLex> darrell: no. apt-get install xmms
[09:19] <SeraVitae> darrellmarlow - apt-get install xmms
[09:19] <holycow> darrellmarlow, or do system / administrator / synaptic
[09:19] <Arafangion> SeraVitae: logging isn't exactly a "pedantic" expectation.
[09:20] <holycow> darrellmarlow, all the software is available via that gui too,  should make your noobiexperience nifty
[09:20] <asdx> darrellmarlow: sudo apt-get install xmms in a terminal
[09:20] <darrellmarlow> do i type "apt-get install xmms" in terminal?
[09:20] <SeraVitae> no, but i think you could spend your time more wisely
[09:20] <holycow> darrellmarlow, yep
[09:20] <ArrenLex> Type "sudo apt-get install xmms" in the terminal.
[09:20] <darrellmarlow> ok will  do
[09:20] <darrellmarlow> thx for all the responses
[09:20] <Arafangion> SeraVitae: Suppose you download and setup your fancy email server.
[09:20] <Arafangion> SeraVitae: And one day it stops working - how do you find out what is wrong, without logs?
[09:21] <|chris3|> arrenlex: 1280x768@60hz does not show up only1152x864 and 1280x960
[09:21] <nailbags> anyone?
[09:21] <Arafangion> SeraVitae: Or suppose you have to investigate some issue, how do you do so, without logs?
[09:21] <SeraVitae> Arafangion - but by that time, it won't matter, because your head would've exploded.
[09:21] <|chris3|> arrenlex: by only I mean int he range
[09:21] <holycow> Arafangion, well you buy support and blame it on zimbra
[09:21] <zoidberg> hey guys in freenode
[09:21] <SeraVitae> because you'd be going WTFFF LOGS AREN'T FEATURES
[09:21] <SeraVitae> :P
[09:21] <darrellmarlow> how do you log in as root in terminal?
[09:21] <darrellmarlow> su?
[09:21] <sloloem> Heeey has anyone in here played around with the beta nividia drivers?  the 9xxx series?
[09:21] <zoidberg> how can u see all the users in teh channel on the side or something
[09:21] <zoidberg> ?
[09:21] <kmitch87> darrelmarlow: sudo -s
[09:21] <nailbags> darrellmarlow, sudo -s
[09:21] <holycow> darrellmarlow, don't be doing that/!!!!!
[09:21] <Arafangion> zoidberg: That would depend on the client.
[09:21] <holycow> dudes c'mon
[09:22] <ArrenLex> chris3: then I suggest googling for the correct rates for your plasma TV and using the 'advanced' settings, like holycow wants to.
[09:22] <holycow> stop telling noobs how to do bad things
[09:22] <Arafangion> SeraVitae: How so?
[09:22] <darrellmarlow> dont be doing what?
[09:22] <holycow> darrellmarlow, don't be doing silly things like that
[09:22] <|chris3|> arrenlex: that going to suck
[09:22] <JamieBE> Can someone please help with this problem?
[09:22] <holycow> just run every command that needs root priviledges with sudo
[09:22] <SeraVitae> Arafangion - never mind
[09:22] <kmitch87> he's right darrellmarlow:  use sudo for most tasks
[09:22] <Arafangion> SeraVitae: Heck, how do the *developers* implement the damn thing without some logging?
[09:22] <holycow> sudo is "a good thing"
[09:22] <darrellmarlow> what is sudo?
[09:22] <kmitch87> sudo is more secure
[09:22] <darrellmarlow> nice
[09:22] <holycow> !sudo
[09:22] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:23] <SeraVitae> holycow - i found the ubuntu install for zimbra, but the vmware images are zimbra+fedora, and on top of that, they are demo's.
[09:23] <darrellmarlow> im so newb
[09:23] <holycow> SeraVitae, dude stop right there
[09:23] <darrellmarlow> this place is great
[09:23] <SeraVitae> should i really run ubuntu --> vmware --> fedora --> zimbra? :p
[09:23] <holycow> SeraVitae, i already told you to download the vmware image of zimbra first
[09:23] <zoidberg> Arafangion: well irc client i am using is FREENODE...which comes default with UBUNTU...so i can somehow confiugre it so it can show me the suers in the channel
[09:23] <holycow> its easier and faster ... you want to run your serverrs in a virtualized environment
[09:23] <SeraVitae> holycow - i'm trying to find the vmware image of zimbra.
[09:23] <Arafangion> zoidberg: Please don't shou.t
[09:23] <JamieBE> AM I VOICED?
[09:23] <holycow> easy backups, easy to blow away, easy to restore
[09:23] <holycow> SeraVitae, google vmware appliance zimbra
[09:23] <holycow> done
[09:23] <darrellmarlow> sweet its working
[09:23] <ClayG> can someone recommend a program for the hp laserjet 4p?
[09:23] <ArrenLex> chris3: sorry, man, I don't want you to blow your fancy Plasma TV up by using the wrong settings or something. =P Is there any chance you can coerce Windows to reveal the proper settiings?
[09:24] <Arafangion> zoidberg: Your *server* is freenode, it does not come "default" with Ubuntu.
[09:24] <Arafangion> zoidberg: Example clients are bitchx, irssi, xchat, gaim, amongst many, many others.
[09:24] <SeraVitae> 1.5GB vmware appliance?
[09:24] <ArrenLex> ClayG: check out linuxprinting.org
[09:24] <|chris3|> arrenlex; no idea
[09:24] <holycow> SeraVitae, why do you care? it has everything including guest os
[09:24] <ClayG> ah man, thanks
[09:24] <darrellmarlow> ok it worked! do i have to install it now?
[09:24] <ClayG> that sounds good
[09:24] <holycow> plus its free
[09:24] <holycow> >_>
[09:24] <holycow> jeebus
[09:24] <darrellmarlow> im sorry but  i have tons of questions
[09:25] <ChocoCid> er
[09:25] <SeraVitae> holycow - Oh, i was just wondering if i should be running linux --> vmware --> linux --> zimbra.
[09:25] <holycow> give em the whole frickin solution for free and they still manage to complain
[09:25] <SeraVitae> on a 433mhz celeron. :p
[09:25] <ChocoCid> "do i have to install it" strikes me as a really odd question
[09:25] <holycow> SeraVitae, well lets consider something here:
[09:25] <darrellmarlow> im just not sure about linux
[09:25] <SeraVitae> darrellmarlow - you just installed it
[09:25] <Arafangion> holycow: Typical clueless windows users, indeed.
[09:25] <zoidberg> Arafangion: sorry my client is xchat....can u help me?
[09:25] <holycow> a) you don't haveto install from scratch which means you save lots and lots of time
[09:25] <SeraVitae> darrellmarlow - type 'xmms' and see what happens
[09:25] <darrellmarlow> I am clueless windows user
[09:25] <darrellmarlow> i said that from the start
[09:25] <holycow> b) you didn't pay for a fricking thing, not a single thing
[09:25] <Arafangion> zoidberg: No, I use irssi.  afaik, xchat already has the user list on the side by default.
[09:25] <SeraVitae> holycow - yeah, that is a good point im not worried at all :)
[09:26] <holycow> c) its all preinstalled and a simple download all clicky clicky
[09:26] <ArrenLex> holycow: who are you yelling at? o_o
[09:26] <SeraVitae> since i was gonna vmware win2k.
[09:26] <loper06> can anybody w/ plenty of experince w/ proftpd help?
[09:26] <loper06> please help. im trying 2 setup proftpd and have 2 users w/ different dir permisssions. if my home dir is /media/samba can i have user1 to have full access (d/l,u/l,delete, etc) while user2 can only download?
[09:26] <holycow> d) considering all that, why not spend like 500$ and get something at least with 1ghz cpu that can run it?
[09:26] <holycow> ArrenLex, i'm not yelling :) just typing fast
[09:26] <holycow> hehe
[09:26] <holycow> SeraVitae, sorry don't mean to sound mean
[09:26] <SeraVitae> holycow - every link for googling points me back to http://www.zimbra.com/community/downloads.html , where they list Zimbra ZCS Virtual Application including Fedora version 4
[09:26] <SeraVitae> just wanted to check if that was correct.
[09:27] <holycow> http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/zimbra.html
[09:27] <holycow> 180mb btw
[09:27] <holycow> oh it does point back to site :)
[09:27] <holycow> hehe
[09:28] <SeraVitae> yeah, to ZCS
[09:28] <reverie> dragonfyre13, still no posty :(
[09:28] <SeraVitae> it must be that torrent/zip then, yeah?
[09:28] <Arafangion> holycow: Have you ever looked at opengroupware?
[09:28] <holycow> yeah, i don't like that
[09:29] <holycow> problem with open groupware is it is based on a terrible application server
[09:29] <holycow> also it uses php, meh :)
[09:29] <Arafangion> holycow: Heh, I don't mind php, but it does make a rather poor choice to do the bulk of code in.
[09:30] <holycow> SeraVitae, you know what? i have the bloody vmware image at th eoffice to play with, i don't remember where on that site i downloaded it from!!!
[09:30] <SeraVitae> heh
[09:30] <SeraVitae> i have unlimited bandwith and don't care so i'll download it anyways
[09:30] <holycow> Arafangion, thats exactly it with groupware things ... they ALWAYS grow beyond their designed spec
[09:30] <Arafangion> SeraVitae: Unlimited, eh?
[09:30] <SeraVitae> the link you gave me to the VTMS thingy, has ZCS
[09:30] <SeraVitae> or rather, seems to have just changed names
[09:30] <Arafangion> SeraVitae: I've only got 1.5mbit/s :(
[09:30] <akano1n> how do i search for a package?
[09:30] <SeraVitae> i have 512kbps unlimited.
[09:30] <reverie> LOL
[09:31] <Arafangion> akano1n: apt-cache search pkg-name
[09:31] <reverie> I have a 384k adsl line
[09:31] <reverie> so don't start
[09:31] <akano1n> thanks
[09:31] <SeraVitae> heh.
[09:31] <Arafangion> SeraVitae: Then, I have three times the bandwidth than you.
[09:31] <reverie> and a 5gb cap!
[09:31] <holycow> zimbra is good for people who want like an all in one one clicky clicky deal and just leave it at that
[09:31] <SeraVitae> dude. that blows :(
[09:31] <kishore> ubotu, zimbra
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zimbra - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <reverie> and it costs us like 10% of my fiance and i's collective salary
[09:31] <Arafangion> SeraVitae: You have unlimited downloads - not unlimited bandwidth.
[09:31] <SeraVitae> holycow - yeah, the demo made my crotch tingle
[09:31] <holycow> i don't like zimbras development approach so if you wanted to do anything else down the road, donno not how i would do things.  its good just for calendaring todo and email
[09:31] <SeraVitae> Arafangion - you need a spliff dude. :D
[09:32] <SeraVitae> you have unlimited seriousness
[09:32] <Arafangion> SeraVitae: Trust me, there's a huge difference when you start managing servers.
[09:32] <SeraVitae> Probably but this is for 1 user. moi
[09:33] <holycow> yeah.  what Arafangion said. but at least this gets him into something right away.  he can learn the rest later.
[09:33] <JamieBE> Am I +v yet?
[09:33] <SeraVitae> i won't be upgrading once it works
[09:33] <Arafangion> holycow: I'm not happy with the current state of calendaring.
[09:33] <ChocoCid> uh
[09:33] <holycow> getting ANYONE off of exchange makes mehappy to begin with
[09:33] <ChocoCid> what the heck @ "am i +v yet"
[09:33] <holycow> Arafangion, lol me too
[09:33] <ChocoCid> nobody's +v in here
[09:33] <holycow> caldav is the way to go, groupdav too
[09:33] <reverie> This is nice, I think Dapper's default kernel has screwed up my vga card
[09:33] <holycow> Arafangion, but no one but open source projects are supporting those things
[09:33] <Arafangion> ChocoCid: Shhh!
[09:34] <holycow> reverie, kernels cannot screw up video cards
[09:34] <holycow> reverie, unless the kernel magically 'flashed' the firmware on your vid card, it ain't happening
[09:34] <holycow> :)
[09:34] <reverie> holycow, I know, I'm just irritated
[09:34] <holycow> reverie, oh sorry don't mean to make it worse!
[09:34] <holycow> hehe
[09:34] <mztriz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=273438
[09:34] <Arafangion> holycow: I should code one - a good way to test a "calendar" widget in one of my pet projects, but the real problem with calendaring is that nobody can agree on a damn protocol, except for CalDav, which stinks.
[09:34] <JamieBE> ChocoCid, so why can I ask a question over half an hour 5 times and get no response from the entire room?
[09:34] <klos> hi any native englisch speaker here who got 5 minutes to read a motivation letter for applying to university and maybe correct it ??
[09:34] <reverie> holycow, this is the 4th time trying to get dapper working that after booting and it hanging my box will not post
[09:35] <reverie> and its not faulty hardware
[09:35] <mztriz> klos I'll help
[09:35] <ChocoCid> JamieBE: either nobody saw it or nobody knew the answer
[09:35] <ChocoCid> i suggest asking again
[09:35] <holycow> reverie, ah that has nothing to do with ubuntu
[09:35] <klos> mztriz, query
[09:35] <klos> ah no
[09:35] <klos> i'll nopaste it
[09:35] <holycow> thats a hardware/bios issue, i've had that happen a few times
[09:35] <JamieBE> ChocoCid: Sounds fair. Here it goes...
[09:35] <reverie> holger, don't burst my post-trumatic-kernel-panic-ranting-disorder
[09:35] <Arafangion> JamieBE: Either that the question was pointless, such as "Am I +v yet?"
[09:36] <holycow> Arafangion, #offtopic?
[09:36] <holycow> i'm curious about your thoughts on caldav?
[09:36] <JamieBE> Arafangion, how about you quit breaking my 8-balls?
[09:36] <klos> hm damn no <br> in nopaste
[09:36] <klos> hehe
[09:36] <klos> http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/4141/?format=txt
[09:36] <holycow> reverie, heh efunny :)
[09:37] <klos> any bette rpasting service ?
[09:37] <Arafangion> holycow: I haven't honestly studied it much, but I have a major problem with putting all the logic into the application, rather than the server.
[09:37] <mztriz> klos ok
[09:37] <ChocoCid> rafb.net/paste
[09:37] <reverie> holger, but seriously, there's some kernel issue because this has only happened to be with dapper
[09:37] <ChocoCid> (imo)
[09:37] <holycow> Arafangion, oh me too.  are you a coder by trade or?
[09:37] <Arafangion> holycow: I'm studying Software Engineering, I graduate next year.
[09:37] <holycow> Arafangion, ah cool. was just curious
[09:37] <Arafangion> holycow: :)
[09:37] <SeraVitae> how can i change a file association? i just installed azureus but torrents are still linked to the original bittorent software
[09:38] <holycow> caldav is fine imho for web based things as there the logic is on the server
[09:38] <JamieBE> I have a samba setup between this Ubuntu Dapper box, and 2 Windows machines. Shares locally, within /home/ work fine, but I am trying to share folders that exist on an external USB 2.0 hard disk and it keeps coming back as "inaccessible" every time I try. What's that all about? The drive is mounted and the share attribs look spot on.
[09:38] <holycow> caldav clients on the otherhand ... meh
[09:38] <Arafangion> holycow: My summer job is a windows shop, afaik - but I checked their kitchens, and they have decent coffee machines, so that's cool. :)
[09:38] <holycow> Arafangion, i've given up on the client software idea i'm thinking thatmost my needs can be served with a web based interface
[09:38] <klos> mztriz, maybe oyu could gopy it into a text file again, would make it easier to read
[09:38] <holycow> Arafangion, introduce them to the magic of linux bro :)
[09:38] <Arafangion> holycow: Which, incidently, puts the logic on the server side.
[09:39] <drewzf> Is VMWare a viable option if I want to operate in Ubuntu but have access to Windows for PSCS2 & Gaming? Or should I just stick to dual booting?
[09:39] <orbin> !defaultapp > SeraVitae
[09:39] <reverie> holger, you mean the magic of breakign vga cards, right?
[09:39] <holycow> drewzf, not really, too slow and i'm not sure if 3d acceleration is supported
[09:39] <Nothing_about> ok can anyone help me out with a problem i have when i start up ubuntu live cd
[09:39] <drewzf> holycow, stick to dual booting?
[09:40] <mztriz> klos, I already did that heh.
[09:40] <holycow> can anyone confirm 3d acceleratio nsupport for windows guests under vmware?
[09:40] <Arafangion> holycow: afaik, vmware does support 3d accel (partially)
[09:40] <klos> mztriz, are oyu in another network to query doenst work here
[09:40] <holycow> drewzf, i would yes, infact i would use separate hard drives.  games take up a lot of room these days
[09:40] <holycow> Arafangion, ah really? enough to play games?
[09:40] <drewzf> I have a very capable system. 2GB RAM, dual core AMD 4600+
[09:40] <Arafangion> holycow: It's one of the major technical advantages over qemu + kqemu. (VMware's other advantage is that it's much more polished)
[09:40] <Nothing_about> the live cd loads and at the stage of loading kernal gets ome kind of hdc command not ready or something
[09:40] <Nothing_about> and then loads normaly
[09:41] <SeraVitae> thanks orbin
[09:41] <Nothing_about> after that it does the system check or something
[09:41] <Arafangion> holycow: My 1.3 GHz system has trouble with many 3D games, I don't think vmware has a chance regardless of 3d accel.
[09:41] <drewzf> I have seperate HDD's, my Ubuntu install is on a 320GB SATA, Windows is on a 170GB nothing-special Maxtor.
[09:41] <Arafangion> drewzf: No shit!
[09:41] <Arafangion> drewzf: :)
[09:41] <holycow> Arafangion, lol, i don't play games.  my trusty 1.4 ghz thunderbird cpu here can handle pretty much anything
[09:41] <drewzf> <3 sarcasm.
[09:41] <holycow> there isn't such a thing as a slow computer any more imho except for certain specific tasks
[09:41] <holycow> actually
[09:41] <Arafangion> holycow: But they all play nethack rather nicely :)
[09:41] <drewzf> Well, can I configure grub to select a specific Windows install from my secondary HDD?
[09:41] <holycow> imho if it wasn't for games people would of stopped upgrading after 1 ghz cpus i think
[09:42] <ChocoCid> nah
[09:42] <holycow> drewzf, yes
[09:42] <drewzf> holycow, How? #grub?
[09:42] <Nothing_about> and then Starts to load ubuntu , upon the ubuntu splash screen popup it loads all the stuff then it gets stuck loading , !! Nautilus !! and i dont know what do to but turn off my pc .
[09:42] <Nothing_about> So can anyone tell me what Nautilus is
[09:42] <holycow> drewzf, the trick is to install windows first on its own hd ... windows always wants to be on c:
[09:42] <Arafangion> holycow: It still surprises me that many people, expecially windows users, obsess about CPU performance, and still just pack 512MB or so of RAM into the system.
[09:42] <klos> file manager
[09:42] <Momal> could not open default font 'fixed' <-- anyone know a fix?
[09:43] <klos> Arafangion, right :P
[09:43] <Nothing_about> Does anyone have any ideas
[09:43] <Nothing_about> or could plz tell me what Nautilus is ?
[09:43] <Arafangion> holycow: Especially with .NET and Java being so ram heavy (And pathetically pathetic with swap)
[09:43] <drewzf> holycow, Windows has been installed first on it's own HDD, but my 1st install is my Vista beta (crap) and I'd prefer to select XP without deleting Vista.
[09:43] <JamieBE> Nothing_about - Check your PM
[09:43] <Arafangion> Nothing_about: Nautilus is Nautilus.  I hear that it's supposed to be some kind of file manager, but who knows what it really is.
[09:43] <klos> drewzf, how's vista
[09:44] <klos> whats new
[09:44] <drewzf> klos, Very sexy. Needs a lot of work.
[09:44] <Nothing_about> ok so how do i check my pm
[09:44] <drewzf> Not stable yet, sadly.
[09:44] <holycow> drewzf, you can, grub needs to installed as the bootloader on that sector instead of the windows bootloader ... then you tell grub where everything is
[09:44] <klos> looks better than xgl
[09:44] <klos> ?
[09:44] <drewzf> And a very large number of games can cause very large problems.
[09:44] <drewzf> IMHO, yes.
[09:44] <JamieBE> Nothing_about -  if you press ALT and F2 together and type in nautilus, it will open and you can see what it is. You will kick you will kick yourself! :)
[09:44] <Nothing_about> and all im trying to do is going into live cd , and install ubuntu from the desktop
[09:44] <klos> :P
[09:44] <Arafangion> drewzf: The #winehq folks are saying that soon, they will be more compatible than windows itself.
[09:44] <drewzf> I doubt it.
[09:45] <Arafangion> drewzf: Well, vista doesn't support DX9
[09:45] <drewzf> is #winehq Cedega or WINE?
[09:45] <holycow> drewzf, an easy way to do it without learning grub is to reinstall ubuntu on the second hd, ubuntu installer will recognize the windows partitions ... so you tell ubuntu to install to hd grub to install to boot sector on other hd and voila
[09:45] <drewzf> Arafangion, there are hacks.
[09:45] <ChocoCid> #winehq is WINE
[09:45] <holycow> drewzf, of course make sure you have backups
[09:45] <hazexp> drewzf: WINE
[09:45] <Arafangion> drewzf: Such as?
[09:46] <holycow> Arafangion, i agree, i max out all my machines with ram
[09:46] <loper06> please help. im trying 2 setup proftpd and have 2 users w/ different dir permisssions. if my home dir is /media/samba can i have user1 to have full access (d/l,u/l,delete, etc) while user2 can only download?
[09:46] <drewzf> Arafangion, You can emulate XP & x86 when installing DX9, it requires some dll re-placement. There are guides available.
[09:46] <Arafangion> holycow: I want to stick another GB of ram into this lappy, but gotta get some money first :(
[09:46] <holycow> the eternal student cunundrum
[09:46] <ChocoCid> heh
[09:46] <holycow> to eat or to buy hardware
[09:46] <holycow> >_>
[09:46] <ChocoCid> we need to get a Open Hardware movement going
[09:46] <ChocoCid> so we can get Free/Open Hardware
[09:47] <holycow> Arafangion, kimchi noodles for the next few months?
[09:47] <drewzf> I've found so many incompatibilities with wine it's nerve racking.
[09:47] <holycow> hehe
[09:47] <Arafangion> ChocoCid: Already done.
[09:47] <holycow> :)
[09:47] <ChocoCid> Arafangion: link to free hardware plz
[09:47] <drewzf> wracking or racking... I think it's wracking.
[09:47] <Arafangion> holycow: Bah, only Hokkien noodles are decent.
[09:47] <ChocoCid> wracking, yeah
[09:47] <hazexp> open hardware, it's been done, in terms of open source hardware
[09:47] <Arafangion> ChocoCid: The Sun Niagara is supposed to be one.
[09:47] <hazexp> yeah
[09:47] <holycow> lol ... a CONNESEUR!
[09:47] <drewzf> I like Cedega's system, just not their principals.
[09:47] <holycow> :)
[09:47] <ChocoCid> heh
[09:48] <ChocoCid> i specifically threw the "fre" in there for a reason
[09:48] <ChocoCid> *free
[09:48] <Arafangion> holycow: Don't get me started with coffee ;)
[09:48] <holycow> what do you guys mean open hardware has beendone?
[09:48] <holycow> hardly
[09:48] <holycow> where are the motherboards with openbios?
[09:48] <holycow> where are the properly documented components?
[09:48] <Arafangion> holycow: There's "LinuxBios".
[09:48] <drewzf> If I re-install GRUB on my Ubuntu install will it re-detect my HDD's?
[09:48] <holycow> Arafangion, yes but no mobos
[09:48] <drewzf> I've been getting an error with my Vista install detection, it says I need to run chkdisk, which Vista doesn't prompt me for.
[09:48] <holycow> and linux bios is just a bios bootloader btw, its now part of openbios :)
[09:49] <Arafangion> holycow: And I saw an article saying that someone was making open video cards.
[09:49] <holycow> Arafangion, thats the only project yes
[09:49] <holycow> and i will be installing those cards on every single system
[09:49] <Arafangion> holycow: How much are they?
[09:49] <hazexp> Open Hardware doesn't mean that it has to be free to buy, it means that the information on recreating the same hardware must be free
[09:49] <holycow> its a nifty project infact, i think they will do some unique things with it
[09:49] <hazexp> http://www.opencollector.org/Whyfree/open_hardware.html
[09:49] <ChocoCid> open video cards?
[09:49] <ChocoCid> link link link
[09:49] <drewzf> There's open hardware. Get a job at best buy, drop a system off the truck into some bushes near your home, come back for it later and scrap it XD. Unethical, but what's ethical nowadays?
[09:50] <chendo> is there a way to get dhcpd to automatically update the DNS?
[09:50] <holycow> Arafangion, i don't know, i think expensive at first because are using those reprogramable cpus
[09:50] <Arafangion> holycow: That's what I thought. :(
[09:50] <holycow> so they will at first service various niches
[09:50] <Arafangion> holycow: Personally, I feel they should try and get the cost down as much as possible, and stuff them into laptops.
[09:50] <wickedpuppy> ChocoCid, http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/28/018227
[09:51] <holycow> Arafangion, they are working on those as well ... something about embedded solutions
[09:51] <Arafangion> holycow: It's not like they're competing with the likes of ATI, so surely they can target the budget market.
[09:51] <holycow> Arafangion, in any case it doesn't matter if the first ones are expensive i want them to be profitable right away
[09:51] <hawkaloogie> what's the best method for packet scheduling on Linux? HTB?
[09:51] <hazexp> Wireshark
[09:51] <hazexp> whoops
[09:51] <holycow> they have the right phiolosphical reasoning so if they can build up the open source market they should be able to get the cheap stuff out in a few generations
[09:51] <hazexp> nope, I was thinking sniffing
[09:51] <hazexp> nvm
[09:52] <holycow> Arafangion, hard to actually compete in the budget market a 50$ nvidia is very powerfull :)
[09:52] <klos> mztriz, lets joins #blablup
[09:52] <Arafangion> holycow: In desktops, perhaps - but laptops are entirely different.
[09:52] <holycow> but having a trully open vid card, i think thats wroth a heck of a lot to me
[09:52] <hawkaloogie> i have to make a choice of BSD or Linux on my gateway computer, and I'd like it to be ubuntu-server, but I can't find anything like PF (or nearly as easy to use)
[09:53] <wickedpuppy> whats PF ?
[09:53] <hazexp> pfsense
[09:53] <hazexp> firewall
[09:53] <Arafangion> hawkaloogie: You have iptables on linux, which is ok, not as nicely documented as PF, though.
[09:53] <Arafangion> hawkaloogie: pfsense?
[09:53] <hawkaloogie> pf is packetfilter
[09:53] <holycow> hawkaloogie, i would use bsd if that is what you are familar with ... it makes a great solution for that kinda thing
[09:54] <Arafangion> hawkaloogie: If you've just got a rather basic firewall requirement - masq, blocking ports, etc, only two nic's, one external, one internal, etc, check out shorewall
[09:54] <Arafangion> hawkaloogie: Or just install OpenBSD
[09:54] <hawkaloogie> nono, i need scheduling. i need bandwidth limiting, i need reverse proxy, i need a whole bunch of stuff ;-)
[09:54] <sethk> hawkaloogie, bsd has what you want, so why do you not want to use it?
[09:54] <valehru> Is there a recommended solution for editing/creating Flash/swf files in linux?
[09:54] <sethk> hawkaloogie, I use NetBSD for my firewalls.
[09:54] <holycow> valehru, it cannot be done, you need macromedia flash ide
[09:54] <hawkaloogie> i tried OpenBSD, and am concerned about it's bass-ackwards nature
[09:54] <Arafangion> hawkaloogie: Ahh, so you don't just want a firewall.
[09:55] <Arafangion> hawkaloogie: How so?
[09:55] <valehru> holycow, le bugger....oh well..thanks
[09:55] <sethk> hawkaloogie, netbsd
[09:55] <holycow> there is a flash4linux ide under development but its pre alpha and the dude could really use some help
[09:55] <hazexp> hawkaloogie: What are you looking for in a gateway computer? Because I've always been partial to IPCop Firewall www.ipcop.org
[09:55] <Arafangion> hawkaloogie: The only problem with OpenBSD, imho, is it's hardware support.
[09:55] <hawkaloogie> sethk, NetBSD has nice packages for apache2? and more... current software?
[09:55] <sethk> hawkaloogie, yes
[09:55] <hawkaloogie> Arafangion, surprisingly, i got it to work on an extremely old computer with ISA cards
[09:55] <sethk> hawkaloogie, they just posted an update a few days ago; go on their site and get the specifics.
[09:55] <hawkaloogie> anyway, i should get back on-topic
[09:56] <hawkaloogie> thanks sethk and Arafangion
[09:56] <Arafangion> hawkaloogie: Yes, but I doubt you'll get excellent performance out of a 2GHz system with 4 GB RAM.
[09:56] <hawkaloogie> Arafangion, i'll keep that in mind w/ openbsd (i just run it for a mail server right now)
[09:56] <mztriz> klos, I haven't forgotten about you (just an FYI that I"m still editing your paper)
[09:57] <Arafangion> That reminds me, it'd be cool if OpenBSD was ported to Xen.\
[09:57] <klos> mztriz, lets joins #blablup
[09:57] <klos> :P
[09:57] <mztriz> ok
[09:57] <Arafangion> Make a great virtual system. :)
[09:57] <reza> help plz! after upgrading to edgy i can not run X, failed to load module "vesa" (module requirement mismatch 0) and some more errors any help?
[09:57] <CromagDK> tried askine ppl in #ubuntu+1 ?
[09:58] <ghostshadow189> hi all , will screen resolution in gnome change , if i change it in icewm ?
[09:59] <Normal> Does Ubuntu recognize Usb flash drives?
[09:59] <SeraVitae> yes
[09:59] <Normal> SeraVitae: yes, who?
[10:00] <hazexp> to you
[10:00] <hawkaloogie> Normal, yes, it does
[10:00] <wickedpuppy> Normal, it does ... i am using tons of usb drives
[10:00] <Normal> Where does it show up?
[10:00] <deFrysk> ghostshadow189, gets a no
[10:00] <holycow> just an icon on your desktop
[10:00] <RawSewage> how do you join mulitpart .avi
[10:00] <wickedpuppy> Normal, on the desktop + /media
[10:01] <RawSewage> ok thx
[10:01] <Normal> Neither nor for me
[10:01] <RawSewage> oh, youre not talking to me
[10:01] <davin> Hi, how do I rename a file from the shell?
[10:01] <wickedpuppy> LOL
[10:01] <mickreal> rm
[10:01] <mickreal> haha nah, mv filename
[10:01] <wickedpuppy> mickreal, that will remove
[10:01] <mickreal> was joking
[10:02] <wickedpuppy> mickreal, pls do not joke .. if it was important file ...
[10:02] <mickreal> mv filename newfilename
[10:02] <Normal> Well, I'll add it to the list of parts that don't work for me: Graphics card, Sound card, and now Usb drive...ahhhh
[10:02] <davin> cheers
[10:02] <mickreal> won't joke about that again.. ;)
[10:02] <eL_PuaS> Has my card intel i810 acceleration 3D?
[10:02] <reza> help plz! after upgrading to edgy i can not run X, failed to load module "vesa" (module requirement mismatch 0) and some more errors any help?
[10:02] <wickedpuppy> Normal, unplug ... dmesg .. plug in .. dmesg .. check if ther is any error .. if so pls paste
[10:02] <Flannel> reza: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[10:03] <Arafangion> Normal: Which graphics card? Which sound card? Which USB drive?
[10:03] <orbin> RawSewage: cd into the directory and then: cat *.avi > joined.avi
[10:03] <hazexp> Normal: What FS is your USB Drive formatted as? FAT16/32 or NTFS or other?
[10:03] <Arafangion> Normal: I've only come across *one* usb drive that didn't work, and that was a wierd one.
[10:03] <RawSewage> orbin, ty
[10:03] <wickedpuppy> will that join the avi like ... edited by sony vega ?
[10:04] <wickedpuppy> then why the hell people buy sony vega ?
[10:04] <Nothing_about> hey i need some help
[10:04] <orbin> RawSewage: that joins all the avi files in the dir though.  if you want just one or two, replace the *.avi bit
[10:04] <Nothing_about> while the ubuntu was loading kernal , the hardware drivers where not found and has faild or something
[10:04] <Nothing_about> what do i do ?
[10:04] <Normal> wickedpuppy: dmesg?  Arafangion: 6600 GT , Audigy 4 SE, and my usbs name has worn off...But crap, 2.6.9 is the only kernel that works for me. 2.6.15 all freeze
[10:04] <EspenBe> Why are the net-services in inet.d listening to tcp6?  I have to use v4 in a few cases.  How can I do that?
[10:04] <RawSewage> orbin, it knows about .001  .002  etc?
[10:04] <Nothing_about> to fix this problem
[10:04] <Wespe> hi, what does "Unable to locate loadable module in module_path: "liblighthouseblue.so"" MEAN?
[10:04] <mickreal> Nothing: during bootup?
[10:04] <Arafangion> Normal: Let me guess... ATI?
[10:04] <orbin> RawSewage: yes, i've joined rar files that way
[10:04] <RawSewage> ok
[10:04] <wickedpuppy> Normal, type dmesg ... you will see what i mean .. i gotta go cya
[10:04] <Nothing_about> yeh during live cd boot up
[10:05] <Wespe> and how can I fix it?
[10:05] <Nothing_about> while its loading kernal
[10:05] <Nothing_about> and uncomprassing or something
[10:05] <mickreal> hmm, i've had this during normal bootup and it's been the video card drivers
[10:05] <mickreal> were set to nvidia, i changed to nv and didn't have the problem again
[10:05] <Normal> What do I do with the info spit out by dmesg?
[10:05] <Nothing_about> also it cant find my bios , manufacuture etc files or soemthing
[10:05] <mickreal> don't know about live cd boot though
[10:05] <Arafangion> Normal: Paste it to the pastebin
[10:06] <Nothing_about> yeh im trying to install ubuntu
[10:06] <_rockstar> Hm, anyone have the fglrx driver working in edgy?
[10:06] <Nothing_about> and it loads up live cd
[10:06] <Nothing_about> doing this on my lame laptop i think somethings wrong
[10:06] <Flannel> _rockstar: #ubuntu+1 for edgy
[10:06] <mickreal> did you do install to hard drive?
[10:06] <Nothing_about> no
[10:06] <Nothing_about> i cant install ubuntu without
[10:06] <mickreal> you using desktop or server?
[10:06] <Nothing_about> going threw live cd
[10:06] <Nothing_about> desktop
[10:06] <Normal> I see my usb drive's there, it just doesn't come up in media or the desktop
[10:07] <Nothing_about> the newest version , ubuntu desktop 6.06
[10:07] <mickreal> don't think i can help you sorry, i'm using server and did a install to harddrive
[10:07] <Nothing_about> yeh well ive tried the live cd out on my main comp
[10:07] <Nothing_about> that im using now
[10:07] <Wespe> what does "Unable to locate loadable module in module_path: "liblighthouseblue.so"" mean and how can I fix it?
[10:07] <Nothing_about> and everything worked fine
[10:07] <Nothing_about> on the desktop was a install file
[10:08] <mickreal> maybe it is the laptop then??
[10:08] <Arafangion> Wespe: What the heck is "liblighthouseblue.so"?
[10:08] <ChocoCid> think that's an image file?
[10:08] <Nothing_about> yeh thats what im saying but still linux should support 128mb or ram and 700mhz cpu
[10:08] <Wespe> Arafangion: i really don't know
[10:08] <mickreal> indeed it should
[10:08] <Nothing_about> its not like im installing windows vista on the hting
[10:08] <Flannel> Nothing_about: linux does.
[10:08] <Arafangion> Normal: Linux _does_ support 128mb of ram.
[10:08] <mickreal> hehe ubuntu is better anyway :)
[10:09] <Nothing_about> yeh so im just wondering why there are these problems of loading live cd
[10:09] <Arafangion> Normal: Heck, I've run it on a 24MB system for quite some time./
[10:09] <Nothing_about> and so i can install ubuntu and replace windows xp
[10:09] <Arafangion> Nothing: Ahh, that's a disadvantage of live cd's in general.
[10:09] <Flannel> Nothing_about: because it's loading the entire OS into your ram
[10:09] <Nothing_about> yeh that might be it
[10:09] <mnepton> Nothing_about: the Live CD *plus* the installation routine requires a bit more than 128MB. either get the alternate CD, or try Xubuntu, which may be a better match for the slower hardware.
[10:09] <Normal> I have 2Gb of RAM
[10:09] <Flannel> Nothing_about: and reading additional stuff off the CD, at CD speed
[10:09] <whatever_> can someone tell me how to stop xserver without it auto-loading the xserver again...i'm using the "sudo killall Xorg" cmd
[10:10] <Arafangion> Nothing_about: And the CD can't use any swap files, either.
[10:10] <mickreal> so the live cd loads and then gives a drivers error?
[10:10] <Flannel> whatever_: sudo /etc/init.d/[somethign xserverish]  stop
[10:10] <Nothing_about> ok
[10:10] <Arafangion> whatever_: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[10:10] <Nothing_about> no live cd loads
[10:10] <Nothing_about> but while kernal loading the hardware files where not found
[10:10] <Nothing_about> and has faild to locate
[10:10] <whatever_> ok i will try those, ty
[10:10] <Nothing_about> but thing is it still loads up the splash screen of ubuntu
[10:11] <holycow> Nothing_about, well don't worry about it
[10:11] <holycow> it works
[10:11] <mnepton> Nothing_about: but  .... you just said you had booted the Live CD and saw the desktop and installer.
[10:11] <holycow> whats the problem?
[10:11] <Nothing_about> yeh ive loaded the live cd from my main computer
[10:11] <Nothing_about> that runs it normaly
[10:11] <Nothing_about> so i tried it on my slow laptop
[10:12] <holycow> and your surprised about what?
[10:12] <holycow> its a live cd
[10:12] <Nothing_about> which needs an OS besides windows xp to use on it
[10:12] <holycow> its A LOT slower than if you had it on the hd
[10:12] <josi> hi, can anybody remove the global ban for *@versanet.de for the channels #ubuntu-de and #ubuntu-de-treffpunkt?
[10:12] <Flannel> josi: #ubuntu-ops
[10:12] <mickreal> Nothing: so you are booting the live cd right?
[10:12] <mnepton> Nothing_about: have you tried one of the -alternate CDs?
[10:12] <Nothing_about> Well the thing is it got to the ubuntu splash screen and has stoped loading , from Nautilus
[10:12] <Nothing_about> no i havnt tried the alternate cds
[10:13] <mickreal> why don't you install it to the hdd?
[10:13] <Nothing_about> but thats because it got to the splash screen to load gnome an all that
[10:13] <mnepton> Nothing_about: try the Xubuntu alternate CD on that laptop. it should install fine.
[10:13] <holycow> Nothing_about, well itgs a live cd
[10:13] <mickreal> that way it's not maxing out your ram
[10:13] <holycow> Nothing_about, you don't have enough ram it seems
[10:13] <Nothing_about> well 128mb of ram i thought would be enuff to run linux
[10:13] <Nothing_about> but for the live cd there are alot of problems
[10:13] <peace-keeper> anyone know a good hex editor with low level disk/partition access ?
[10:13] <mickreal> not if it's loading the livecd into 128
[10:14] <SeraVitae> Nothing_about - live cd is chunky as hell.
[10:14] <mnepton> Nothing_about: try the Xubuntu alternate CD on that laptop. it should install fine. (x2)
[10:14] <Flannel> Nothing_about: it is .  not to run linux from a lvieCD
[10:14] <mickreal> that won't be enough... do and install to the hdd
[10:14] <holycow> Nothing_about, dude, which part of LIVE CD don't you get?
[10:14] <deFrysk> 128 is pretty low
[10:14] <holycow> it has to LOAD EVERYTHING INTO RAM
[10:14] <holycow> jesus
[10:14] <deFrysk> I would use xubuntu with 128
[10:14] <SeraVitae> that said i am on a 433mhz celeron with 192mb of ram, running ubuntu + azureus.
[10:14] <SeraVitae> takes about 5-10 seconds to bring up the applications menu. :D
[10:14] <Nothing_about> ok
[10:14] <mickreal> if ubuntu is installed on the hdd it can run with 128 ram
[10:14] <Nothing_about> well ill go and download xubuntu
[10:14] <Flannel> Nothing_about: download the alternate ISO
[10:14] <Nothing_about> thnxz for the help pplz
[10:15] <mickreal> if you're live cding it, you'll max out the ram as it's loading it to there
[10:15] <mnepton> Nothing_about: and get the *alternate* CD :)
[10:15] <peace-keeper> i have an athlon500 and 768mb ram, and winxp is about twice as fast as ubuntu
[10:15] <deFrysk> alternate yes!
[10:15] <mickreal> mnepton: not necessary
[10:15] <Nothing_about> yes i understand live cd needs to laod the whole OS into ram
[10:15] <SeraVitae> if installing to a low-end box it is better to install ubuntu server-style
[10:15] <SeraVitae> then apt-get unbuntu desktop
[10:15] <SeraVitae> or alternate cd.. but not livecd.
[10:15] <holycow> peace-keeper, lol, your running a live cd too?
[10:15] <holycow> *sigh*
[10:15] <Flannel> alternate CD is good, even if you want to install a server you can
[10:16] <deFrysk> peace-keeper, with or without spyware- virus-scanner and firewall ?
[10:16] <mickreal> i agree with Sera, install the server then apt-get install desktop
[10:16] <peace-keeper> no, hard disk
[10:16] <Nothing_about> lol sorry for the questions just new at this whole linux stuff
[10:16] <mickreal> Nothing: all good, gotta start somewhere
[10:16] <Flannel> no need to install server, install via alternate
[10:16] <unfknblvbl> !codec
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <Nothing_about> ok ill install from alternate iso
[10:16] <unfknblvbl> !mp3
[10:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:16] <gath> hi, i need some help on ACPI - ubuntu won't power off my computer
[10:16] <mnepton> Nothing_about: no worries. you're just trying to get a graphical Linux system onto older hardware. not gonna happen with a LiveCD without issues. use the alternate CD to install Xubuntu and you'll be good.
[10:16] <holycow> Nothing_about, its okay, yeah what mickreal said.  the important thing is not to jump to conclusions, but learn why things work the way they do.  that will make it a lot more fun
[10:16] <gath> any experts around? :)
[10:17] <orbin> hello.  what do people play FLVs with?  totem-xine + w32codecs loads them fine, but i get no sound and the video stutters.
[10:17] <peace-keeper> face the truth, linux is nice for techies, but as a desktop OS it's slower and less reliable than win xp :)
[10:17] <ubunt_> hi. i run dapper on vmware player and the highest resolution that i can choose in preferences is 1024.786, but i need 1280x1024. how to do it?
[10:17] <holycow> gath, usually no, but ask anyway :)
[10:17] <Nothing_about> yeh well im off to download the alternate iso right now
[10:17] <mickreal> it's not less reliable than xp when you can use it
[10:18] <mickreal> though it is less reliable than xp when learning it
[10:18] <holycow> or slower, heh
[10:18] <gath> holycow, i've tried all sorts of kernel options like acpi=force, acpi=off, acpi=on, nolapic, etc, but nothing works
[10:18] <holycow> gath,  nothing works what tho?
[10:18] <mnepton> peace-keeper: i really appreciate that you took the time to back up those seemingly subjective statements with facts. makes it much easier not to label you an idiot troll. :)
[10:18] <mickreal> hahaha @ mnepton
[10:18] <gath> holycow, all processes are killed but it stops at powering off the monitor and the computer
[10:18] <mickreal> good calll
[10:18] <Munksgaard> boing boing
[10:18] <peace-keeper> just saying my experience, ive spent a lot of time on ubuntu
[10:19] <peace-keeper> and dont insult me plz
[10:19] <holycow> gath, so its just not shutting down?
[10:19] <gath> holycow, right
[10:19] <mickreal> peace-keeper - don't insult the majority then ;)
[10:19] <gath> holycow, the last message I see is [x.y]  Power down.
[10:19] <Juhaz> it's not an insult to call an idiot troll a idiot troll
[10:19] <gath> holycow,  x and y being "random" numbers
[10:19] <peace-keeper> i dont insult anyone
[10:19] <holycow> gath, *hmm* thats too esoteric a qeustion for me, i don't know actually.  i'm sorry :/ maybe someone else has a clue.
[10:19] <gath> holycow, ok thanks
[10:19] <mickreal> peace-keeper - ignorance is bliss ;)
[10:20] <peace-keeper> i just say that as a desktop OS i find ubuntu slower, more complicated and less reliable than win xp
[10:20] <mnepton> gath: have you tried acpi=off apm=on ?
[10:20] <peace-keeper> if its not allowed to say that in here, kick me out
[10:20] <holycow> peace-keeper, spending lots of time on ubntu and actually knowing whats going on are two different things
[10:20] <mickreal> maybe you should upgrade your hardware
[10:20] <Cartas> Could someone please help me with Ubuntu + Wine + WoW?
[10:20] <gath> holycow, yep
[10:20] <holycow> peace-keeper, why not try us and explain where xp excels over linux
[10:20] <holycow> lets see if we can bat them down
[10:20] <holycow> peace-keeper, okay so:
[10:20] <mickreal> Cartas - try automatix for wine, don't know about WoW though
[10:21] <holycow> slower - what does this mean? video response? applications? what?
[10:21] <peace-keeper> 1: it's twice as fast on my machine, 2. i does not crash every day, 3. it is much easier to use (ok i understand the last one may be a matter of learning..)
[10:21] <Cartas> mickreal: Is that a channel, or a person?
[10:21] <holycow> complicated - this is wrong, everything is open to you and if you want to you can modify whatever you want.  xp is closed and you cant modify anything
[10:21] <mnepton> gath: have you looked at BIOS settings relating to power management? what software infterface does the BIOS expect? ACPI or APM?
[10:21] <ChocoCid> we have a fanboy
[10:21] <Jesse1984> hey ppl, im having a hell of a time trying to install ubuntu 6.06, i have read all sorts of faq's and help docs u guys have pointed me too and still no luck.  Is there a way to delete grub, mbr and format hard drive and start fresh???
[10:21] <holycow> more reliable - don't let me start laughing
[10:21] <mickreal> Carta - apt-get install automatix
[10:21] <holycow> sorry that last one is just wrong on levels i can't begin to imagine
[10:21] <peace-keeper> dont get me wrong, i like linux, but as a desktop OS it's still disappointing for me
[10:22] <Cartas> Oh
[10:22] <gath> mnepton, my bios supports ACPI
[10:22] <ChocoCid> sure, Jesse1984, just reinstall from scratch and select the reformat option on the install
[10:22] <holycow> 1. on your machine, what does 'slow mean' ... what is slow?
[10:22] <gath> mnepton, and i've enabled everything i possibly can
[10:22] <gath> mnepton, if it means anything, xp shuts down without a hitch
[10:22] <holycow> 2. ubuntu doesn't crash, if yours crashes yhou screwed something up. seriously
[10:22] <Arafangion> peace-keeper: Indeed, sucks much less than windows, though - the best I've seen is probably Mac OS X.
[10:22] <mnepton> gath: maybe that's the issue? what happens if you use only a barbeones feature set in the BIOS?
[10:22] <Jesse1984> chococid: u mean with the alternate cd?
[10:22] <ChocoCid> no, on the normal cd
[10:22] <ChocoCid> when you go through the normal GUI install on the livecd
[10:22] <Jesse1984> live cd?
[10:22] <ChocoCid> yeah
[10:22] <Arafangion> holycow: Ubuntu doesn't crash?
[10:23] <gath> mnepton, so you're suggesting i disable some of the options?
[10:23] <holycow> 3. yes the last one is learning, 15 years of learning ONE ui is a lot different from understaining the principal interface guidlines
[10:23] <ChocoCid> on step 3 or 4 when it asks you what you want to do with your hard drive
[10:23] <gath> mnepton, ... in the bios
[10:23] <peace-keeper> slow means: firefox takes about 10 seconds to start, windows paint slowly, even switching tasks sometimes takes a few seconds
[10:23] <hazexp> Jesse1984: If you want to wipe the MBR, use a DOS boot disk, then run "fdisk /mbr"
[10:23] <holycow> Arafangion, it doesn't because 'ubuntu crashes' makes no sense
[10:23] <mnepton> gath: quite so.
[10:23] <ChocoCid> select "reformat"
[10:23] <Arafangion> peace-keeper: Are you hitting swap?
[10:23] <mnepton> peace-keeper: running the correct kernel for your CPU?
[10:23] <gath> mnepton, what makes you think that would work?
[10:24] <Jesse1984> chococid: yeh it wont do it! i have tried and it sits at the "installing system" part for like 15mins then shuts down everytime!?
[10:24] <occultis>  timhaughton
[10:24] <Arafangion> mnepton: Nearly irrelevent.
[10:24] <peace-keeper> i think swap is no problem, i have 768 ram
[10:24] <Jesse1984> hazexp: ok i will try that thanks
[10:24] <peace-keeper> yes maybe my kernel is wrong?
[10:24] <ChocoCid> uh
[10:24] <mnepton> Arafangion: not in the least. i see drastic changes in all sorts of things between 386 and 686smp
[10:24] <ChocoCid> how much swap did you set for linux?
[10:24] <holycow> peace-keeper, windows don't paint slowly, you don't have proper drivers installed then
[10:24] <josh_> Hello, does anybody here have any experience with ifolder?
[10:24] <peace-keeper> is "2.6.15-27-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT" right for athlon 500 ?
[10:24] <mnepton> peace-keeper: looks good
[10:24] <mtymobile> hi
[10:24] <Arafangion> peace-keeper: Open a console, run top, hit 'M', sorting tasks by memory useage, and show us the output.
[10:24] <holycow> peace-keeper, if your system crashes, you screwed something  up big time.  it litterally doesn't happen unless you do something dumb
[10:25] <peace-keeper> it sometimes crashes when doing multimedia stuff like playing movies, listening to internet radio..
[10:25] <ChocoCid> no, windows does that, linux doesn't
[10:25] <EspenBe> Try again: Why are the net-services in /etc/inet.d listening to tcp6?  I have to use v4 in a few cases.  How can I do that?
[10:25] <holycow> peace-keeper, what crashes?
[10:25] <holycow> the whole system?
[10:25] <mickreal> peace-keeper: could be your hardware for the video stuff
[10:25] <holycow> or just the app?
[10:25] <mtymobile> ehi pals is there a way to run an init.d script at device activation with udev????
[10:25] <peace-keeper> whole system freezes, can't even switch to console
[10:26] <mickreal> maybe video drivers??
[10:26] <holycow> peace-keeper, your drivers are crashing
[10:26] <holycow> please configure drivers properly
[10:26] <ChocoCid> yeah it's a video card issue
[10:26] <peace-keeper> i installed some "legacy" video drivers according to some ubuntu FAQ
[10:26] <Arafangion> peace-keeper: Which drivers are you using?
[10:26] <peace-keeper> nvidia
[10:26] <ChocoCid> why would you install legacy video drivers...
[10:26] <holycow> peace-keeper, so you screwed up your config and you blame the system?
[10:26] <holycow> nice
[10:26] <peace-keeper> fu, i didnt screw up anything
[10:26] <ChocoCid> uh, yeah, legacy nvidia drivers instead of current ones?
[10:27] <ChocoCid> no, that's wholly your fault, not the system's fault
[10:27] <peace-keeper> i was told HERE in this channel to install legacy nvidia drivers for an older card
[10:27] <holycow> peace-keeper, it is totally yoru responsibility to know how to configure the system
[10:27] <holycow> sorry
[10:27] <mnepton> guys, chill
[10:27] <Arafangion> peace-keeper: Just install the latest proprietary NVidia drivers, and ignore the 'nv' drivers.
[10:27] <ChocoCid> so someone misinformed you? blarg :(
[10:27] <mtymobile> no one knows?
[10:27] <holycow> peace-keeper, i'm going to take a poitn from mnepton and appologize
[10:27] <mnepton> peace-keeper: you have an nVidia card?
[10:27] <mickreal> peace-keeper - you did say earlier you spent a lot of time on ubuntum you should know what you're doing then
[10:27] <holycow> peace-keeper, i'm sorry i don't mean to be mean or attack you :)
[10:27] <peace-keeper> yeah an older nvidia card
[10:28] <Arafangion> peace-keeper: nvidia is widely regarded as being the best of the closed drivers.
[10:28] <mnepton> peace-keeper: which?
[10:28] <Cartas> mickreal: What was the command again, please?
[10:28] <holycow> peace-keeper, it is still a video card related issue
[10:28] <Cartas> sudo apt-get install automatix?
[10:28] <mnepton> peace-keeper: when i hear "old" i think "riva tnt" :)
[10:28] <peace-keeper> yeah :D
[10:28] <holycow> guys, has nvidia dropped support for old video cards?
[10:28] <peace-keeper> elsa erazor 2, with nvidia riva tnt
[10:28] <mtymobile> HEY!
[10:28] <Arafangion> mnepton: I had a riva tnt :)
[10:28] <holycow> peace-keeper, what kind of vid card?
[10:28] <siimo> i want this in ubuntu! :P http://www.informit.com/content/images/chap3_0672328933/elementLinks/03fig22.jpg
[10:28] <peace-keeper> actually riva tnt2
[10:29] <peace-keeper> where i get the right drivers for that?
[10:29] <Arafangion> peace-keeper: Install the nvidia drivers.
[10:29] <mickreal> Cartas i pmd you
[10:29] <Cartas> You did?
[10:29] <holycow> siimo, oh god
[10:29] <holycow> siimo, just use vista
[10:29] <holycow> i hope that NEVER shows up in gnome
[10:29] <holycow> heh
[10:29] <mickreal> you get it??
[10:29] <AlexC> Hey
[10:29] <ChocoCid> oh how ugly
[10:30] <siimo> i think its pretty useful
[10:30] <ChocoCid> it actually seems logical enough
[10:30] <ChocoCid> but still ugly
[10:30] <Arafangion> siimo: Damn, why would you want that?
[10:30] <holycow> not to mention confusing and totally not usefull
[10:30] <AlexC> Can someone help me Install Maya 8 on Ubuntu please? It's all RPM packages
[10:30] <peace-keeper> i installed nvidia-glx-legacy.... package says it supports riva tnt2
[10:30] <ChocoCid> it's not useful because of multiple files
[10:30] <Cartas> Nope, Mickreal.  Could you resend, please? :P
[10:30] <ChocoCid> like, nobody has a file JUST for powerpoints
[10:30] <siimo> so i know exactly what the files are without going into the folder
[10:30] <peace-keeper> but still everything much slower than on win xp (hope noone feels insulted now)
[10:30] <ChocoCid> it's mixed in with documents
[10:30] <mickreal> resent, did you recieve?
[10:30] <ChocoCid> that's just ugly and i'm sure that's ridiculously slow
[10:31] <holycow> siimo, if you like that kinda deal cool
[10:31] <Arafangion> ChocoCid: Actually, I'm sure you can make it fairly fast.
[10:31] <siimo> ChocoCid: you dont understand,, this isnt one folder.. it shows them like this by grouping like files together
[10:31] <holycow> as for me i'm glad we are switching toubuntu, i never wanna see that, ever
[10:31] <mnepton> peace-keeper: try removing that package and see what happens. the vesa driver may actually provide a better experience than that more deprecated and antique nv driver
[10:31] <holycow> hehe :)
[10:31] <ChocoCid> uh
[10:31] <Arafangion> siimo: Why not... double-click the damn folder and look at all the files?
[10:31] <ChocoCid> so it doesn't let you put what you want where you want?
[10:31] <Cartas> Mickreal:  Can you speak at all in that PM I just opened with you?
[10:31] <ChocoCid> so you save a ppt it automatically gets moved into the powerpoint folder?
[10:31] <mickreal> as far as i know
[10:31] <ChocoCid> ugh
[10:31] <Cartas> Try it an see?
[10:32] <ChocoCid> that's fairly awful imo :(
[10:32] <Cartas> and*
[10:32] <peace-keeper> lol mnepton ok i try :D although i cant imagine it will become better
[10:32] <ChocoCid> and, Arafangion, i can't make it go faster
[10:32] <ChocoCid> windows isn't open source remember?
[10:32] <mnepton> peace-keeper: can it get worse? ;)
[10:32] <mickreal> Cartas, i have been trying, just take a look at this link http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation#Installing_with_Apt
[10:32] <Arafangion> ChocoCid: Haha :)
[10:32] <siimo> ChocoCid: of course it does but this is a easy interface to your files .. appearently microsoft is trying to get rid of the Tree browsing file system model
[10:32] <holycow> peace-keeper, trust me when i say, all 3 problems you mentioned are system admins fault and can be fixed
[10:32] <josh_> what programs do you guys recommend for bluetooth under gnome? Things like obex and other protocols. What should I use?
[10:32] <Cartas> Thanks old chap.
[10:32] <holycow> peace-keeper, :) primise
[10:32] <Cartas> I am PMing you.
[10:32] <mickreal> np
[10:32] <Cartas> But you are not sending me anything :o
[10:32] <Arafangion> ChocoCid: It would be trivial for MS to make that quite quick, actually.
[10:32] <ChocoCid> siimo : it's still a tree, it's just the equivalent of a family tree in alabama now
[10:33] <peace-keeper> holycow: that doesnt help me if i cant fix them without spending days on learning about stupid conf files
[10:33] <Arafangion> ChocoCid: Especially given that they both write windows and office.
[10:33] <mickreal> Cartas, i have been trying, just take a look at this link http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation#Installing_with_Apt
[10:33] <peace-keeper> i dont wanna be a system admin, i wanted to simply install and use an OS
[10:33] <siimo> i dont know what you mean im not from america
[10:33] <holycow> peace-keeper, ah, well because you don't know doesn't make your false assertions true
[10:33] <Cartas> I already have, Mickreal!
[10:33] <ChocoCid> oh, sorry
[10:33] <mickreal> :)
[10:33] <holycow> it just makes them true relative your own abilities
[10:33] <Cartas> :D
[10:33] <ChocoCid> alabama is frequently the butt of incest jokes
[10:33] <Arafangion> ChocoCid: THat folder could have a thumbnails directory, which is updated when files are modified.
[10:33] <peace-keeper> what false assertions ?
[10:33] <holycow> its like me blaming ms for me not knowing how to install drivers on their os
[10:34] <josh_> Hey smeggy, noticed you're from Tassie. Where abouts?
[10:34] <ChocoCid> peace-keeper : just because you installed the wrong driver doesn't mean linux is a problem
[10:34] <Arafangion> ChocoCid: And the first X images of which are shown in that "folder".
[10:34] <mickreal> Cartas - it should sort you out with automatix, then using that you can install wine and other cool stuff
[10:34] <ChocoCid> Arafangion : still ugly :[
[10:34] <Arafangion> ChocoCid: Indeed.
[10:34] <Cartas> Hm, Mickreal:  It doesn't work.
[10:34] <holycow> peace-keeper, there are LEGITIMATE complaints about linux ... lots of them
[10:34] <mickreal> the link?
[10:34] <Cartas> Ah
[10:34] <tonyyarusso> !automatix
[10:34] <holycow> no one really hides them but they tend to be of technical nature
[10:34] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[10:34] <thatGuy_> man there's a lot of chat going on in here
[10:34] <ChocoCid> yeah, "linux is slow" is not a valid one at all
[10:34] <Cartas> That link needs updating.
[10:34] <thatGuy_> shocked to see it
[10:34] <Cartas> It's automatix2, it seems.
[10:34] <thatGuy_> i need help with gnome (anyone that can help)
[10:35] <siimo> is this kind of thing coming into gnome? http://www.informit.com/content/images/chap3_0672328933/elementLinks/03fig15.jpg  it seems pretty cool i hope this does if not that folder thing
[10:35] <tonyyarusso> (Often will break things!  You've been warned.)
[10:35] <josh_> whats the problem thatGuy_ ?
[10:35] <peace-keeper> i said it's slow on MY MACHINE, and thats no false assertion... and i dont gave a shit for what reason it is slow
[10:35] <siimo> (taskbar preview like tab preview in web browser)
[10:35] <holycow> to anyone considering automatix, please never use that
[10:35] <thatGuy_> gnome-panel won't start at all at this point
[10:35] <ChocoCid> peace-keeper: you can MAKE it faster
[10:35] <thatGuy_> this happened after doing installations using autonamix
[10:35] <holycow> that is a terrible piece of software, it bypasses the package manager totally
[10:35] <ChocoCid> you installed the wrong driver, of course it's going slow
[10:35] <Cartas> Mickreal:  Do you happen to know how I can completely remove my previous wine installation?
[10:35] <Arafangion> peace-keeper: Install the latest damn nvidia driver.
[10:35] <josh_> open up a terminal and try: sudo killall gnome-panel
[10:35] <Cartas> Do I just delete the .wine file?
[10:35] <thatGuy_> i have reason to believe autonamix broke my ish
[10:35] <ChocoCid> no
[10:35] <mickreal> apt-get remove wine
[10:36] <mnepton> peace-keeper: Windows kills baby bunnies. there, i said it. you may want to deny it. you may want to call me a bizarre, lying freak. but the inescapable fact is that *every copy of Windows XP results in the deaths of thousands of fuzzy baby bunnies*.
[10:36] <mickreal> perhaps
[10:36] <ChocoCid> Cartas : sudo apt-get remove wine
[10:36] <Arafangion> ChocoCid: ~/.wine is a directory.
[10:36] <holycow> peace-keeper, well, we do care that you are blaming the os for something of your own fault
[10:36] <Cartas> Thanks old chaps!
[10:36] <Arafangion> ChocoCid: And it contains the complete "pretend" C: for your windows "system".
[10:36] <holycow> its hard to actually offer free support and listen to windows users complain about things they messed up
[10:36] <peace-keeper> WHY MY FAULT u idiot?
[10:36] <ghostshadow189> hi all , how can i combine 2 panel of knome to just 1 panel ?
[10:36] <ChocoCid> because you installed the *wrong driver*
[10:36] <thatGuy_> when i log into gnome, i get no panels anywhere.
[10:36] <holycow> because you misconfigured it #1
[10:36] <ChocoCid> that's obviously your fault, not the system's fault
[10:36] <peace-keeper> i installed the drivers i was told here in this channels, the drivers that SAY they support my card
[10:36] <mickreal> peace-keeper - i thought you didn't insult people??????
[10:36] <holycow> secondly you aren't taking responsibility for learning how to fix it #2
[10:36] <mnepton> can everyone stop blaming each other and can we please just think of the bunnies?
[10:36] <ChocoCid> sure, they support your card, but they're also out of date
[10:36] <thatGuy_> i dont get any error message... i dont even know how to reset or uninstall gnome to try to fix this
[10:36] <josh_> hey ghostshadow189, do you mean gnome panels?
[10:36] <thatGuy_> i've been using KDE for a week now
[10:36] <siimo> <3 gnome
[10:37] <siimo> <3 xfce too
[10:37] <Arafangion> peace-keeper: Why are you against installing up-to-date drivers?
[10:37] <mickreal> peace_keeper - who would want to help you now
[10:37] <ghostshadow189> yes
[10:37] <holycow> third and MOST IMPORTANTLY all the problems you mentioned are not problems.  configure it right and it works.  you screw it up you take responsibility for it
[10:37] <peace-keeper> because up to date drivers dont support my old card
[10:37] <ChocoCid> the guy is LOOKING for a reason to blame the system
[10:37] <ghostshadow189> josh , yes
[10:37] <ChocoCid> he WANTS linux to not work so he can bitch about it and retreat to his little hole in the sand where windows is this perfect world
[10:37] <mickreal> peace-keeper - i suggest trying windows 3.1
[10:37] <peace-keeper> fuck u all, i didnt screw up anything, the system was slow and unreliable from the start... and i dont wanna learn how to configure it
[10:37] <Smeggy> josh_, hobart
[10:37] <peace-keeper> be proud of your "abilities"
[10:37] <ChocoCid> it's people like that, that are the reason microsoft is the #1 os
[10:37] <holycow> peace-keeper, then go use windows
[10:37] <holycow> why are you here?
[10:37] <josh_> ghostshadow189, have you tried clicking on a panel, creating a new one, and dragging it to the area of the screen you want? You can drag two to the same area
[10:38] <mickreal> peace-keeper - you won't get anywhere with an attitude like that
[10:38] <holycow> you don't want our help, go and spend hours on the phone with ms support
[10:38] <Arafangion> peace-keeper: WHY DON'T YOU INSTALL THE LATEST DRIVERS? That's three times I've asked.
[10:38] <tonyyarusso> !language
[10:38] <josh_> Cool, I live in Launceston Smeggy ;)
[10:38] <holycow> we're fine with that
[10:38] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:38] <siimo> ChocoCid: nothing wrong with nice user interfaces dude
[10:38] <peace-keeper> Arafangion: cause they dont support my old card
[10:38] <Smeggy> josh_, cool :)
[10:38] <ChocoCid> ubuntu has a perfectly fine user interface
[10:38] <AlexC> Can someone help me Install Maya 8 on Ubuntu please? It's all RPM packages
[10:38] <siimo> not all linux users are uber geeks that stare at terminals
[10:38] <ghostshadow189> josh , i drag 1 panel , but it cant combine with other
[10:38] <holycow> siimo, using linux via gnome is terribly easy
[10:38] <Arafangion> peace-keeper: I'm sure they do.
[10:38] <reverie> zloc, what's that? I can't see past the cathodes
[10:38] <BHSPitLappy> AlexC, package(s)? there are more than one?
[10:38] <siimo> holycow: yea i use gnome + xfce sometimes
[10:39] <holycow> siimo, i have a few soccer moms happily installing software on it and managing printers and things like that
[10:39] <ChocoCid> i think he means all the options are RPMs
[10:39] <thatGuy_> guys... anyone know how to fix gnome if it appears to be completely broken
[10:39] <josh_> ghostshadow189: ah ok, to make it one panel just right click on one of them and go to properties. Then change the size to as big as you want
[10:39] <holycow> siimo, cool
[10:39] <thatGuy_> is it even uninsteallable?
[10:39] <AlexC> BHSPitLappy, yes - 3 of them. One is the actual program and 2 are License Servers/Programs
[10:39] <peace-keeper> the reason microsoft is #1 is that windows is better as a desktop os
[10:39] <ghostshadow189> josh : oh , i'll try
[10:39] <BHSPitLappy> AlexC, "sudo alien -d nameofrpm.rpm"
[10:39] <holycow> thatGuy_, depends on what you mean by broken ... describe the problem and we will try to fix it
[10:39] <AlexC> peace-keeper, please don't be a troll =)
[10:39] <ChocoCid> yeah, it's uninstallable, you can do sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:39] <Arafangion> peace-keeper: Incorrect.
[10:39] <reverie> thatGuy_, delete your gnome configs
[10:39] <BHSPitLappy> AlexC, then you can double click the new ones
[10:39] <holycow> peace-keeper, why are you here then?
[10:39] <ChocoCid> might be able to go sudo apt-get restore or something like that
[10:39] <AlexC> BHSPitLappy, cool ok - I'll try that now
[10:39] <thatGuy_> whwen i log in, i get no panels at all
[10:39] <holycow> peace-keeper,  you don't want to use linux, you don't want to learn how to maintain it, why are  you here?
[10:40] <BHSPitLappy> AlexC, I dunno if you already have alien installed though
[10:40] <mickreal> peace-keeper - the reason why microsoft is #1 is because of venture capitcal, mass marketing and large amounts of money that the open source community doesn't have
[10:40] <thatGuy_> i've tried to run gnome-panel, and nothing
[10:40] <mickreal> think before you speak
[10:40] <frogzoo> thatGuy_: 1st, create a new user with 'adduser' & see if gnome works for it
[10:40] <holycow> go and use windows, you will be happy we will be happy, its all good
[10:40] <AlexC> BHSPitLappy, don't think so - I'll install it now
[10:40] <thatGuy_> it happened to all my users at the same time
[10:40] <peace-keeper> okay i shut up, dont wanna waste your time, bye
 the guy is LOOKING for a reason to blame linux<ChocoCid> he WANTS linux to not work so he can ***** about it and retreat to his little hole in the sand where windows is this perfect world
 it's people like that, that are the reason microsoft is the #1 os
[10:40] <thatGuy_> nope.  does
[10:40] <thatGuy_> doesn't*
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> AlexC: are you sure there are no debs for it?
[10:40] <reverie> thatGuy_, prolly an error in one of the gnome configs
[10:40] <Arafangion> peace-keeper: The reason why MS is #1 is because it's installed by default on every single system, due to various nefarious monopolistic practices that has brought them to court several times.
[10:40] <AlexC> fyrestrtr, absolutely
[10:40] <ChocoCid> he WANTS to pay through the nose for a worse system
[10:40] <holycow> ChocoCid, i agree with you 100%
[10:40] <AlexC> fyrestrtr, Autodesk, well Alias - only did RPMs for it
[10:40] <thatGuy_> lol.. there's like a million of those right?
[10:40] <Seveas> ChocoCid, peace-keeper Arafangion: take of-topic discussions elsewhere
[10:40] <siimo> so what do you use ChocoCid? gnome or kde
[10:40] <josh_> thatGuy_, have you tried restarting? You can restart GDM/Xserver by doing Alt+Ctrl+Backspace
[10:40] <thatGuy_> spread  out all across the universe
[10:40] <ChocoCid> he's TROLLING THIS CHANNEL
[10:40] <thatGuy_> yup
[10:40] <reverie> thatGuy_, yeah.. i had this before a few times so i ended up just deleting .g* lol
[10:40] <holycow> ChocoCid, but once they have decided they don't like it us hammering them wont help
[10:40] <thatGuy_> its been broke for some weeks now
[10:41] <ghostshadow189> josh : it cant , i change 1 panel to 50 , and i drag other panel to this panel but they cant be combine
[10:41] <reverie> don't do it unless you're comfortable doing so :)
[10:41] <holycow> lets nicely encourage them to go back to windows
[10:41] <ChocoCid> sure, holger , but that doesn't mean they should troll the channel
[10:41] <ChocoCid> *holycow
[10:41] <reverie> thatGuy_, can you create another user and login with that?
[10:41] <ChocoCid> siimo : i use gnome, don't much care for the look of kde
[10:41] <mickreal> it got rid of him though
[10:41] <holycow> ChocoCid, i'm convinced that by my own experience that anyone that doesn't like linux is irrelevant, it really is good enough and easy enough touse already
[10:41] <reverie> thatGuy_, if that works then its probably a config error
[10:41] <Seveas> ChocoCid, holycow: stop it.
[10:41] <thatGuy_> alright.  i'll try that
[10:41] <BHSPitLappy> this is why I hate this channel
[10:41] <ChocoCid> the people who don't like linux are going in PLANNING to dislike it
[10:41] <thatGuy_> otherwise?
[10:41] <siimo> why am i trolling? i only talked about a couple of user interface ideas from vista
[10:42] <holycow> siimo, i wasnt talking about you :)
[10:42] <peace-keeper> siimo: you get hated fast in here if you say anything good about windows :)
[10:42] <josh_> ghostshadow189: You can't have a panel inside a panel. There are two alternatives. 1) stacking the two panels, or 2) dragging into the bigger panel the applets you want
[10:42] <ChocoCid> i didn't say you were trolling ,siimo, peace-keeper  is
[10:42] <holycow> i was talking about talking about peace-keeper
[10:42] <holycow> peace-keeper, not true, you get told the true technical answer
[10:42] <peace-keeper> i'm not the one who started insulting
[10:42] <mickreal> hahaha he's back
[10:42] <AlexC> peace-keeper, stop trolling, and grow up
[10:42] <fyrestrtr> AlexC: you could use alient (if it hasn't been suggested already)
[10:43] <mickreal> omg go buy some microsoft shares peace-keeper
[10:43] <holycow> Seveas, wtf
[10:43] <AlexC> fyrestrtr, yep - someone said that before, just copying the files to my hard drive now so I can alien them
[10:43] <holycow> i'm helping him realize his destiny is #windows
[10:43] <holycow> in a very polite way
[10:43] <holycow> how about bouncing trolls?
[10:43] <mickreal> lol @ holycow
[10:43] <AlexC> Seveas, why kick holycow when peace-keeper is trolling?
[10:43] <Seveas> people, this was the last warning. If you keep continuing disrupting the channel I will ban
[10:44] <fyrestrtr> take it to #ubuntu-offtopic if you must, and even there, I suspect you'll be kicked :)
[10:44] <ChocoCid> should ban the blatant troll, not those who were actually offering solutions to his supposed problem when he outright rejects any form of help ;[
[10:44] <holycow> Seveas, ban away bro i'm not impressed by you being an op.  i said nothing rude and everything was withing channel rules which i agree with.
[10:44] <holycow> Seveas, why don't you ban trolls instead ?
[10:44] <josh_> peace-keeper: voicing your opinion is a fair event. However this chat room is for support on Linux. If you wish to discuss your thoughts with somebody, start a private chat, send them an email, but do not annoy them or spam them. Please take this conversation somewhere else
[10:44] <AlexC> haha I just got a PM from peace-keeper saying "i'm not trolling you asshole" awww bless him
[10:44] <AlexC> i'm doing alien now fyrestrtr
[10:44] <Seveas> holycow, simply because I just arrived and didn't see bad things from him yet
[10:45] <Seveas> As you see he's banned now
[10:45] <ChocoCid> so you start kicking before you see the whole story? nice =\
[10:45] <holycow> Seveas, ah allright all cool
[10:45] <Seveas> but in the futire: don't pay attention to trolls
[10:45] <AlexC> good plan Seveas
[10:45] <OXIj> how to change number of viewports in beryl?
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> OXIj: ask in #beryl
[10:45] <ChocoCid> rightclick the viewport icons in the corner, hit preferences
[10:45] <ChocoCid> it's the same as in metacity/gnome
[10:45] <ChocoCid> or whatever kde uses
[10:45] <valehru> is there a flickr uploader for gnome?
[10:45] <ChocoCid> (i'd assume)
[10:45] <Jesse1984> can some1 plz tell me how long the average ubuntu 6.06 alternate install should take?
[10:46] <mnepton> ChocoCid: you were told to stop. you didn't. how is that better than the troll? (and dude, this is rhetorical)
[10:46] <Seveas> Jesse1984, 30-40 minutes
[10:46] <fyrestrtr> Jesse1984: no more than 30 minutes, if that.
[10:46] <josh_> OXIj: not sure if you can change it (if you mean desktops/cube sides)
[10:46] <holycow> Jesse1984, for me about 20 minutes or so
[10:46] <bioticpro> How can I mount dvd.iso file on HD, so it can be played or ripped? (hopefully an easy non cli method)
[10:46] <ChocoCid> because, mnepton , what i'm talking about is a more general statement
[10:46] <Jesse1984> thanx
[10:46] <holycow> depends on the hard drive and cdrom speed mostly
[10:46] <josh_> Jesse1984: Is your installation hanging?
[10:46] <ChocoCid> plenty of people out there will try linux with the PLAN to hate it
[10:46] <siimo> my current screenshot: http://members.lycos.co.uk/siimo2005/screenshots/screenshot-20061008.jpg   :P
[10:46] <OXIj> josh_, yes. i mean that
[10:46] <ChocoCid> they WANT it to not work so they have an excuse to go back to their comfortable little hole in the sand that they can bury their head in like an ostrich
[10:47] <josh_> OXIj: What stage of the install are you at?
[10:47] <mnepton> Jesse1984: it rather depends on the speed of your 'net connection (if you have one while installing)
[10:47] <Alexus> hello! I'm trying set adsl connection and have already installed the driver (ADLS indicator is ON). But I can't connect to Internet. My provider uses PPPoE. Here is the log after " sudo pppd call ueagle-atm": Using interface ppp0; Connect: ppp0 <--> 0.51; LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests; Connection terminated; Modem hangup. What is wrong?
[10:47] <OXIj> josh_, working )
[10:47] <AlexC> fyrestrtr, hum does it normaly take this long to Alien a 125MB file?
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> ChocoCid: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic and keep this space clean for support requests.
[10:47] <ChocoCid> they want to go "i tried to use it but i would have had to edit configuration files just to get my system to work" and that sort of bs makes other people not want to try linux
[10:47] <ChocoCid> this relates directly to bug #1 and you know it
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> AlexC: wouldn't know, but I suspect it does, since it has to create a deb and find deps, etc. etc.
[10:48] <Jesse1984> josh: yeh its taking ages, but im hoping it will work this time, i have used fdisk to format the mbr and the hdd i was trying to install on previously.. so fingers crossed!
[10:48] <tonyyarusso> ChocoCid: That may be, and if so, it would be just the sort of topic for #ubuntu-offtopic, since it is Linux-related, but not support.  Want to talk about it there?
[10:48] <siimo> ChocoCid: well i hated it too when i first tried it 3 yrs ago.. mostly because i was on dialup and my modem could only connect at 24kbps  and a few other things i was used to in windows back then!  but now i use it exclusively at home... its takes time to get used to linux
[10:48] <AlexC> fyrestrtr, true true - it came up with this to Warning: Skipping conversion of scripts in package Maya8_0: postinst postrm preinst prerm
[10:48] <josh_> OXIj: Is your harddrive light flashing, or is there any sign of activity on the computer
[10:48] <eeki> hi
[10:48] <AlexC> then fyrestrtr Warning: Use the --scripts parameter to include the scripts.
[10:48] <AlexC> and is currently "stuck" there,
[10:48] <eeki> wat the hell
[10:48] <eeki> u are doing
[10:48] <holycow> siimo, it takes time to get used to any new os interface
[10:48] <mikeymike-linux> klos, mztriz is amazing isn't she?
[10:48] <josh_> OXIj: sorry, wrong person
[10:48] <fyrestrtr> AlexC: stuck like, no hard disk activity?
[10:49] <eeki> does anyone play runescape
[10:49] <klos> jep
[10:49] <klos> great work
[10:49] <klos> thx
[10:49] <AlexC> fyrestrtr, honestly no idea - I kinda blew up my Hard Drive Activity LED hehe
[10:49] <holycow> siimo, most users have 15 years of windows training, you don't just throw that away. putting a windows user on osx is not easy either
[10:49] <josh_> Jesse1984: Any activity on the computer? like lights?
[10:49] <AlexC> and there so quiet you can't hear them doing anything normally
[10:49] <Arafangion> eeki: Highly likely that someone, somewhere runs it.
[10:49] <ompaul> !offtopic
[10:49] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:49] <fyrestrtr> AlexC: rofl, okay give it a few more minutes, check top to see if its still running.
[10:49] <yemu> does anyone knows how to upgrade ltsp to 4.2? i followed instrustions on ltsp.org, but still the old version boots
[10:49] <yemu> ?
[10:49] <OXIj> josh_, no mind. all works fine. I just need 6 desktops. beryl can give my up to 12 but I cant find where this option is..
[10:50] <siimo> holycow: true but its a lot easier now.. with dapper etc is much user friendly compared to what i used back then.. i think i was on redhat 9 which was not that bad but after i used mandrake for a month i decided to give up linux totally but i came back
[10:50] <mikeymike-linux> does anyone know if you can rotate the desktop in ubuntu 270 degrees?
[10:50] <ompaul> !timetable > yemu
[10:50] <AlexC> fyrestrtr, check top? how do you mean?
[10:50] <fyrestrtr> AlexC: from another console, type 'top' and see if the process is still running
[10:50] <fyrestrtr> AlexC: or use the gnome-system-monitor
[10:50] <josh_> OXij: OK, I don't remember seeing such an option. But I do remember seeing a demo with more desktops. It might have been taken out? Or maybe it only works when you don't use the cube (use the sliding desktops instead maybe?)
[10:51] <AlexC> fyrestrtr, theres one that is dpkg-deb but I see no alien
[10:51] <fyrestrtr> AlexC: that's probably it.
[10:51] <AlexC> thought as much
[10:51] <OXIj> josh_, snx. I already found it
[10:51] <josh_> Jesse1984: does your computer appear to doing any activity? Eg: hdd light flashing?
[10:51] <thatGuy_>  I'm THIS lucky I got back to this user
 you log in, then you can't even log out!
 no.  gnome did not work
[10:51] <yemu> ompaul: does it mean i can't upgrade manually?
[10:51] <fyrestrtr> josh_: OXIj please take it to #beryl
[10:51] <mztriz> does anyone understand this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=273438
[10:51] <mztriz> ?
[10:51] <josh_> OXIj: Where is it
[10:51] <josh_> sorry
[10:51] <ompaul> mikeymike-linux, there is a program (all be it exercise) where you use hands [1]  to initate rotate[2]  you might be able to do it with one of these xgl like things but that is #ubuntu-xgl
[10:52] <thatGuy_> is there a way to uninstall gnome and then install again?
[10:52] <OXIj> josh_, General Options -> Horizontal Virtual Size
[10:52] <mikeymike-linux> ompaul, my display rotates 270 for long viewing
[10:52] <josh_> cheers
[10:52] <thatGuy_> the ish is broke and i'm looking for a way to fix it
[10:52] <fyrestrtr> thatGuy_: what is the problem?
[10:52] <thatGuy_> is as broke as broke gets
[10:52] <AlexC> thatGuy_, I'd like to say sudo apt-get remove gnome-desktop then sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop .... but Im not sure :P
[10:52] <thatGuy_> eeshh, it dont run whatsoever
[10:52] <thatGuy_> no panels at all
[10:52] <thatGuy_> no way to run anythign, no way to log out even
[10:52] <AlexC> thatGuy_, type gnome-panels in terminal
[10:52] <onorin> Hello, I have an HP nx7010 laptop, with ATI 9200 and default screen resolution is 1600 x 1050. When I try to use fglrx through Xor.conf, after rebooting I got a black screen instead of gnome. What can I do ?
[10:52] <AlexC> nono, gnome-panel
[10:53] <thatGuy_> naw, that didnt run it either
[10:53] <ompaul> yemu, no, what it means is don't upgrade unless you really need it, if you need it you should have a look at the source, you should remove the existing using "sudo apt-get remove --purge program-name-here" then use
[10:53] <AlexC> fyrestrtr, wayy it's done
[10:53] <ompaul> !checkinstall > yemu
[10:53] <josh_> thatGuy_: have you tried restarting yet? (either whole computer or just X session)
[10:53] <thatGuy_> yess
[10:53] <fyrestrtr> onorin: how did you install it?
[10:53] <josh_> thatGuy_: does synaptic tell you that you have gnome-panels installed?
[10:54] <onorin> fyrestrtr, from Synaptic
[10:54] <fyrestrtr> AlexC: great, now try installing the debs that it generated.
[10:54] <thatGuy_> i know it is cause it was working
[10:54] <fyrestrtr> onorin: you followed the wiki?
[10:54] <Alexus> I'm trying set adsl connection and have already installed the driver (ADLS indicator is ON). But I can't connect to Internet. My provider uses PPPoE. Here is the log after " sudo pppd call ueagle-atm": Using interface ppp0; Connect: ppp0 <--> 0.51; LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests; Connection terminated; Modem hangup.
[10:54] <Alexus> Can anybody help me?
[10:54] <thatGuy_> i did soem upgrades via autonamix and it stopped working completing
[10:54] <holycow> thatGuy_, ohhhhhhhh
[10:54] <mztriz> I'm trying to follow these instructions,
[10:54] <mztriz> http://www.teachucomputers.blogspot.com/
[10:54] <holycow> dude reinstall and NEVER EVER use automatix again
[10:55] <holycow> that is what screwed up your system
[10:55] <thatGuy_> completly*
[10:55] <mztriz> can someone help me with step 3
[10:55] <ghostshadow189> hi all , how can i make panel bigger but icons in panel is still small like before
[10:55] <onorin> fyrestrtr, yes I did run it, throug sudo  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:55] <holycow> thatGuy_, don't even bother fixing it.  backupyour home dir and reinstall
[10:55] <onorin> fyrestrtr, I heard that this is because the resoultion is too high 1600 x 1050
[10:55] <thatGuy_> lol
[10:55] <Alexus> what can I do, where should I move?
[10:55] <holycow> and NEVER EVER use automatix again, its some of the worst software ever written
[10:55] <thatGuy_> that's really what it was starting to look like
[10:55] <fyrestrtr> Alexus: is your modem detected properly? I don't think its working correctly.
[10:55] <Seveas> holycow++
[10:55] <Scorpmoon> how do I set up ubuntu to share the attached printer with other windows machines?
[10:56] <josh_> ghostshadow189: In gnome icons scale to the size of the panel. You can stack panels for a similar effect or try out KDE (Kubuntu) or try using the KDE panels in gnome
[10:56] <onorin> fyrestrtr,  afterwards I have added some modle lines to my Xorg.conf, that I read this from some post. But it didn't work.
[10:56] <thatGuy_> have no idea how it broke my gnome like that
[10:56] <Arafangion> holycow: I suggest you mention that you should backup  /etc, and /var as well.
[10:56] <fyrestrtr> onorin: try using the binary driver from ati.com, if you have a laptop, that helps -- especially with powersaving and resume after suspend.
[10:56] <onorin> no matter what I do I can't make fglrx running
[10:56] <holycow> what Arafangion said
[10:56] <Arafangion> holycow: Then do the install, then copy all the apt archives back.
[10:56] <hazexp> holycow: bad experience? please share
[10:56] <thatGuy_> i ran it on my amd64 laptop and the ish is still fine
[10:56] <Arafangion> hazexp: _nobody_ recommends automatix here.
[10:56] <onorin> fyrestrtr, and not fglrx ?
[10:56] <thatGuy_> dude... i got soo much on here
[10:56] <fyrestrtr> onorin: pastebin your xorg.conf and your Xorg.0.log file
[10:56] <hazexp> lol Arafangion
[10:56] <holycow> hazexp, not me, just we get A LOT of automatix users come in here with hosed systems
[10:56] <thatGuy_> my web server... mysql... dns server
[10:56] <thatGuy_> lol
[10:57] <onorin> fyrestrtr, hangon
[10:57] <hazexp> I'm not saying I use it, nor do I intend to
[10:57] <thatGuy_> really hoping you can uninstal gnome adn brign it back
[10:57] <holycow> automatix just bypasses the packagemanager first and secondly does a bunch of its own things so you get bizarro issues
[10:57] <thatGuy_> talkign perhaps days of work here
[10:57] <hazexp> but, I admire the efforts to make Linux more user friendly
[10:57] <ompaul> thatGuy_, stop laughing out loud and start installing - lol is so IM this is IRC :-)
[10:57] <fyrestrtr> thatGuy_: what was the last thing you did before gnome stopped working?
[10:57] <holycow> thatGuy_, no just forget everything.  stop, roll, reinstall.
[10:57] <holycow> seirously, automatix changed a whole ton of things on your system thatyou don't know about
[10:58] <holycow> start fresh clean and properly installed system
[10:58] <ChocoCid> automatix is a nice idea with a poor implementation
[10:58] <mztriz> does anyone know how to do step 3 http://www.teachucomputers.blogspot.com/
[10:58] <ChocoCid> from what i understand "easyubuntu" does it better
[10:58] <thatGuy_> ompaul, i appreicate the help.  i been using irc for over a decade.  i know how to talk on here
[10:58] <fyrestrtr> ChocoCid: from what I understand, the wiki does it best.
[10:58] <hazexp> easyubuntu doesn't install applications outside of the package itself
[10:58] <mztriz> ?? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=273438
[10:59] <hazexp> Whereas Automatix is supposed to
[10:59] <ubuntu_> hello room
[10:59] <thatGuy_> fyrestrtr, i think i had restarted after the ish with autonamix, and after that gnome-panel never ran again
[10:59] <ubuntu_> just checkin out this new os
[10:59] <josh_> mztriz: to partition your hard drive you need a program like gparted or qtparted
[10:59] <fyrestrtr> thatGuy_: oh ... oh ... dear.
[10:59] <hazexp> mztriz: Run GParted, if you don't have it yet, sudo apt-get install gparted
[11:00] <fyrestrtr> thatGuy_: backup your /home and reinstall the system.
[11:00] <ubuntu_> im runnin live
[11:00] <josh_> mztriz: there are also proprietary software programs out there like partition magic.
[11:00] <hazexp> ubuntu_: Which OS/distro?
[11:00] <onorin> fyrestrtr, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25952/
[11:00] <ubuntu_> ubuntu
[11:00] <thatGuy_> soo sux
[11:00] <thatGuy_> its gonna take me a while to get my ish together
[11:00] <mztriz> hazexp, I am on the ubuntu live cd, and I did this http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8801/screenshotnm3.png
[11:01] <ubuntu_> cool
[11:01] <fyrestrtr> mztriz: what are you installing ubuntu on? A mac?
[11:01] <onorin> fyrestrtr,  when I make driver "fglrx" instead of "ati" I got black screen
[11:01] <josh_> thatGuy_, how much other stuff had you installed before you tried automatrix?
[11:01] <ubuntu_> pc
[11:01] <thatGuy_> shit.  this comp was just about set
[11:01] <ChocoCid> no, he's installing an illegal mac os x on a non-mac computer heh
[11:01] <thatGuy_> got soo much hard-to-install stuff to finally work
[11:01] <mztriz> hazexp the second part of step 3 tells me Create a new HFS+ partition that is 6 GB using a tool like Partition magic, QTparted, Gparted, etc.
[11:01] <onorin> jose, automatix
[11:01] <ompaul> thatGuy_, well at least you have a live CD you can begin again
[11:01] <ChocoCid> mztriz : go file-new partition after clicking on that part
[11:02] <ChocoCid> and if gparted can make hfs+, you can do it there
[11:02] <mikeymike-linux> ohhhhh hazexp whats up
[11:02] <fyrestrtr> mztriz: can you answer my question?
[11:02] <thatGuy_> all the flash crap, dvd ripping, cd ripping... fially some good media players....
[11:02] <josh_> doesn't automatrix make a log of what it did and offer a script for removing it?
[11:02] <onorin> fyrestrtr, did you get the post ?
[11:02] <hazexp> mztriz: I'm not on Ubuntu atm, so I can't walk you through it
[11:02] <Scorpmoon> what's a good and comprehendible tutorial on how to setup ubuntu as a print server for windows machines?
[11:02] <lukas> what is needed for xmms to play wma-files?
[11:02] <ghostshadow189> hi all , how can i add text next to main menu , like start
[11:02] <mikeymike-linux> lukas, AN ACT OF GOD
[11:02] <mikeymike-linux> (BILL GATES)
[11:02] <ompaul> josh_, we gave up trying to help people with it - if they want to go to #automatix and say "Fix my comp please" they can
[11:03] <mikeymike-linux> or perhaps he is satan
[11:03] <josh_> ompaul: ok, sorry
[11:03] <Seveas> mikeymike-linux, ....
[11:03] <mztriz> fyrestrtr, it's a dell
[11:03] <holycow> josh_, there is no point of worrying because it bypasses the packaging system first and does totally weird things ... who knows iif everything is properly logged under that circumstance
[11:03] <mikeymike-linux> Seveas, :)
[11:03] <Alexus6825> Modem is operational and I just want setup ADSL internet connection via PPPoE. What should I do?
[11:03] <holycow> lukas, w32codecs
[11:03] <holycow> !restricted
[11:03] <fyrestrtr> mztriz: why do you need a HFS+ partition on it?
[11:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:03] <ChocoCid> !restrictedformats
[11:04] <ChocoCid> er, yeah
[11:04] <ChocoCid> beat me to it by a second ;\
[11:04] <holycow> check out that linkage for instalaltion instructions
[11:04] <ghostshadow189> hi all , how can i add text next to main menu , like start menu . for example : main menu image -> start
[11:04] <fyrestrtr> Alexus6825: try kppp
[11:04] <mztriz> chococid, so after i make the 6gb allocated space i make a new partition?
[11:04] <holycow> ChocoCid, :)
[11:04] <Alexus6825> what is kppp?
[11:04] <ChocoCid> after you make the 6gb unallocated space, yes
[11:04] <onorin> fyrestrtr, ?
[11:04] <ChocoCid> if you allocate it, you've made the partition
[11:04] <Alexus6825> is it ppp utitlity in KDE?
[11:04] <fyrestrtr> Alexus6825: sudo apt-get install kppp
[11:04] <josh_> well I'm getting tired and still have home work to do. I'm off guys, bye!
[11:04] <fyrestrtr> onorin: follow the wiki guide to install the ati drivers from ati.com
[11:05] <fyrestrtr> !ati > onorin
[11:05] <harrism> Has anyone ever had this problem using Mupen64 (n64 emulator) -> error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file .... I tried to locate this file and it's in /usr/lib  .. I also have many sdl library files installed since I develop in sdl every now and then. I have the base package along with many addons such as ttf, gfx, image etc. Any ideas? :/
[11:05] <Alexus6825> I use Gnome only, will kppp get installed there?
[11:05] <mztriz> chococid so i right click on the space and try to put it into HSF+ ? (that doesn't work)
[11:05] <onorin> fyrestrtr,  ok I got it but what about fglrx ?
[11:05] <Seveas> !find libSDL-1.2.so.0
[11:05] <ubotu> Package/file libsdl-1.2.so.0 does not exist in dapper
[11:05] <fyrestrtr> onorin: just follow the instructions and you'll end up with fglrx
[11:05] <holycow> Alexus, you can pretty much run any app from any de ... they just end up loading the needed libraries
[11:05] <ompaul> Alexus6825, you connect to the modem with an ethernetcard and you click on System Administration Networking activate the card and as long as your adsl modem is switched on you should have instructions from your provider on what to put into it, unless it came preconfigured
[11:05] <Seveas> harrism, you'll need to recompile that program against the correct libsdl
[11:05] <harrism> erick@wolf:~/Desktop/mupen64-0.5$ locate libSDL-1.2.so.0
[11:05] <harrism> /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0
[11:05] <harrism> /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0.7.2
[11:06] <Seveas> interesting
[11:06] <onorin> fyrestrtr, ok thanks I'll check it out now
[11:06] <harrism> ok, so I need to grab source and compile
[11:06] <ompaul> harrism, please use a pastebin for more than 2 lines paste.ubuntu.com
[11:06] <holycow> Alexus, gnome and kde are trying to standardize on the opendesktop applications menu so that when an app is installed it appears on both systems in the menu
[11:06] <fyrestrtr> harrism: try LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0 commandtostartMupen64
[11:06] <kraut> moin
[11:06] <harrism> from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[11:07] <Arcad3> hi
[11:07] <Arcad3> how to change  the splash screen?
[11:07] <Alexus6825> I have login/password of course, but I don't know where to use them
[11:07] <fyrestrtr> harrism: are you running xgl or binary drivers?
[11:07] <mikeymike-linux> could someone give me an exacmple on how to use spc
[11:07] <mikeymike-linux> scp
[11:07] <harrism> not running xgl, I have 64 bit architecture though but I am not sure if this is the reason. I'm running ubuntu64
[11:07] <mztriz> chococid gparted doesn't let me make the partition HFS+
[11:08] <Alexus6825> and I know that constants my provider use
[11:08] <fyrestrtr> mikeymike-linux: scp somefile user@domain2.com:~/myfiles
[11:08] <mikeymike-linux> fyrestrtr, what if it is local
[11:08] <tonyyarusso> Arcad3: The one on boot or when logging into Gnome?
[11:08] <Arcad3> yes
[11:08] <SeraVitae> could a slow cpu (like really slow) actually limit the speed of download?
[11:08] <mztriz> unless i'm suppose to make a different partion ?
[11:08] <harrism> but compiling the source should work? I guess I could just do it that way
[11:08] <Alexus6825> when I run pppoeconf it says that he can't find router, why?
[11:08] <mikeymike-linux> and what is 'somefile' is that the local manifestation?
[11:08] <ChocoCid> then you'll need a different partition program, mztriz
[11:08] <fyrestrtr> mikeymike-linux: that example is local > remote. scp /path/to/some/local/file user@somehost.com:/path/on/other/host
[11:08] <mztriz> chococid http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=273438
[11:08] <tonyyarusso> Arcad3: ...that was an OR.
[11:08] <mikeymike-linux> fyrestrtr, oh okay
[11:09] <Arcad3> OR=?
[11:09] <Arcad3> i'm from RO
[11:09] <fyrestrtr> mikeymike-linux: of course, the other way is scp user@somehost.com:/path/to/file /path/on/local/system
[11:09] <mikeymike-linux> thats what im trying to do
[11:09] <mikeymike-linux> scp from remote to local
[11:09] <mikeymike-linux> on lan
[11:10] <tonyyarusso> Arcad3: Is it the boot splash screen or the one when logging into Gnome that you want to change?
[11:10] <fyrestrtr> mikeymike-linux: then you want the second example.
[11:10] <mikeymike-linux> thanks
[11:10] <Trackilizer> When i turn on my PC, ubuntu crahses while loading moudules or somthig like that
[11:10] <hazexp> SeraVitae: I doubt it, there are far more factors likely to influence the speed of your download than your CPU
[11:10] <Arcad3> the boot splash screen
[11:10] <Trackilizer> that happens everytime i trun on my PC
[11:10] <CiderJack> mother love
[11:10] <Trackilizer> do i have to re-install because of this?
[11:11] <Alexus6825> Why do pppoeconf can't set up my connection? what maybe the cause?
[11:11] <holycow> Trackilizer, you probably have problematic hardware ... but hard to know without looking at the system
[11:11] <CiderJack> Inconclusive. Lacking data. No solutions found.
[11:11] <killaz> hello ubuntu
[11:12] <killaz> I hope you can help my by pointing me into the right direction...
[11:12] <Trackilizer> holycow, so i would have to buy new hardware?
[11:12] <Alexus6825> so...
[11:12] <killaz> Im using mplayer.... its like this I get a CRC check failure everytime I want to watch a .ISO file...
[11:12] <killaz> the quality and everything of the ISO is ok... but the CRC check failure makes the movie skip...
[11:12] <holycow> Trackilizer, well you would need to perform testing to find out what its hanging on
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> killaz: sounds like a bad download.
[11:12] <holycow> Trackilizer, do you know where exactly it stops?
[11:13] <killaz> fyrestrtr, CRC means bad dowload?
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> !usplash
[11:13] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[11:13] <killaz> fyrestrtr, or bad file?
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> Arcad3: ^^
[11:13] <Trackilizer> yes! it's when it says, loading modules or something of that nature
[11:13] <fyrestrtr> killaz: generally, yeah.
[11:13] <killaz> fyrestrtr, :(
[11:13] <Trackilizer> my PC keeps on running, but the screen goes blank and nothing happens after that.
[11:13] <killaz> fyrestrtr, damn a friend of mine gave me this ISO....
[11:13] <onorin> fyrestrtr, in that howto there are two guides, one is to use fglrx, which is appereantly now working. The other one is "Using the drivers from ati.com" . So should I proceed with the latter ?
[11:13] <Al> it seems pretty difficult to get any help here
[11:14] <Arcad3> thanks
[11:14] <fyrestrtr> onorin: yes, you want the 'use drivers from ati.com'
[11:14] <fyrestrtr> Al: plenty of satisfied customers :)
[11:14] <holycow> Trackilizer, well generally if it it stops during bootup you should be able to see the line it stops at
[11:14] <fyrestrtr> Al: it all depends on how you ask the question.
[11:14] <mztriz> can someone help me with this tutorial http://www.teachucomputers.blogspot.com/
[11:14] <Al> how should I ask?
[11:14] <fyrestrtr> Trackilizer: disable the boot splash to see the kernel messages.
[11:14] <Trackilizer> holycow, yes its the modules part it stops at
[11:15] <Trackilizer> and how does one stop the boot splash?
[11:15] <Al> my internet doesn't work in Linux... And I don't how to set it up
[11:15] <tonyyarusso> Al: Just type your question and wait.  If nobody answers, it likely means nobody knows.  Ask again in 15 minutes or so.
[11:15] <AlexC> hum - fyrestrtr I don't think Maya installed correctly
[11:15] <holycow> oh hit ctrl/alt/f1
[11:15] <holycow> or f2
[11:15] <Mille> any way to reinstall programs installed with easyubuntu?
[11:15] <ghostshadow189> hi all , to download a theme for gnome , should i download GTK2.x or Metacity ?
[11:15] <holycow> i think the detailed system init messages are there
[11:15] <Arcad3> GTK2
[11:15] <AlexC> fyrestrtr, in Synaptic it says it's installed - but if I do a serach for Maya on the filesystem I get nothing, if I type "maya" in terminal it says command not found aswell
[11:15] <tonyyarusso> Al: It would help the right people to help you to know what kind of internet connection you have. (And have you succeeded in another OS with it?)
[11:16] <Arcad3> for me no  theme works
[11:16] <fyrestrtr> mztriz: we don't support pirated software or the means to install it.
[11:16] <Trackilizer> holycow, so just do that and wait for the error message right?
[11:16] <RedGhost> unrar-free _always_ fails, why?
[11:16] <fyrestrtr> AlexC: maybe 'Maya' is not the command for it.
[11:16] <Al> How can I setup my PPPoE if modem is already operational?
[11:16] <holycow> *nod* yeah lets find out where it stops at, maybe it will give us a clue
[11:16] <tonyyarusso> !pppoe
[11:16] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[11:16] <Trackilizer> ok, thanks alot, I'll try that.... be back in a bit
[11:16] <AlexC> fyrestrtr, yeah it is =\
[11:17] <mztriz> fyrestrtr, I don't mean osx i just want my hdd in HFS+
[11:17] <AlexC> it's weird
[11:17] <asking> hello... can you please suggest me the easiest way to make a copy of a video dvd? I'd like to preserve the menu structure/subtitles/audio while reencoding it so that it fits on a 4GB disc.... is there a tool that does all of that automatically? Thanks!
[11:17] <thatGuy_> anyone know if there's a gnome error log i can look at to try to fix it ?
[11:17] <fyrestrtr> AlexC: hrmm, dunno. I'd have to download it and install it here to help ya any further.
[11:17] <Arcad3> make an image of it
[11:17] <fyrestrtr> thatGuy_: ~/.xsession-errors
[11:17] <tonyyarusso> Al: See if that wiki page helps.
[11:18] <fyrestrtr> asking: use any cd copying software, like k3b
[11:18] <fyrestrtr> mztriz: why?
[11:18] <Al> I'm reading it now, thanks
[11:19] <asking> fyrestrtr, thx, I tried with gnomebaker and had no such option... so I felt like asking somebody before installing all kdelibs and k3b
[11:19] <mztriz> fyrestrtr, for FTP and SSH
[11:20] <fyrestrtr> mztriz: you don't need HFS+ for that.
[11:20] <SeraVitae> any suggestions for an ftp server? something with a gui for setting up would be awesome.
[11:21] <SeraVitae> or at least a gui configurator tool
[11:21] <Arcad3> use apache2
[11:21] <tonyyarusso> !ftp
[11:21] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[11:21] <Trackilizer> holycow, i get stop the boot splash, it happes at the beginning of the load procces
[11:21] <Arcad3> apt-get install apache2
[11:21] <Trackilizer> it happens at the point where it says loading file systems
[11:22] <holycow> Trackilizer, i've seen that once before but i cannot remember the fix
[11:22] <holycow> Trackilizer, i'm going to stab at it with 'reinstall' and see what happens
[11:22] <holycow> Trackilizer, sounds like it cannot find the partition
[11:22] <Trackilizer> ok, I'll reinstall now.... be back later :)
[11:22] <Mille> any way to reinstall programs installed with easyubuntu? cause they are greyed out, and i'm not sure how to reinstall them manuallt (well that's why i'm using easbuntu)
[11:23] <ubuntu__> just here checkin out ubuntu os
[11:23] <Mille> it's nice isnt it, ubuntu__ xD
[11:23] <ubuntu__> so far
[11:23] <Mille> ubuntu__ what have you  been running before?
[11:23] <ubuntu__> win 2000pro
[11:24] <holycow> ubuntu__, you should be able to sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename from command line
[11:24] <mwright2> I've just installed the read/write ntfs-3g and ntfs-fuse... just wandering how do I make the auto mounter (that mounts usb disks) use the ntfs3g or the ntfs-fuse driver instead of the default read only driver.
[11:24] <ghostshadow189> hi all , when i click to show desktop button it warn me : Your window manager does not support the show desktop button, or you are not running a window manager.  how can i fix this
[11:24] <AlexC> holycow, I think you ment Mille  ?
[11:24] <mwright2> it works fine if I explicitly mount it in /etc/fstab but I'd like to mount it using the automounter
[11:24] <eeki> hi
[11:24] <Mille> hm
[11:24] <SeraVitae> is ssh installed with ubuntu by default?
[11:24] <eeki> errrrm
[11:25] <eeki> erm
[11:25] <ubuntu__> im just runnin live off my cd rom right now
[11:25] <eeki> hey r u guys deaf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:25] <holycow> oh yes i meant Mille sorry ubuntu_
[11:25] <Mille> holycow, but i dont evfen know the package name?
[11:25] <mwright2> eek? what's your question?
[11:25] <eeki> erm
[11:25] <holycow> AlexC, danke :)
[11:25] <mwright2> I'm after help with automount d
[11:25] <holycow> Mille,  apt cache search goodguess
[11:25] <AlexC> =)
[11:25] <mwright2> if anyone can tell me where the auto.fs files are ...
[11:25] <gansinho> hi! I would like to know how do I mount a memorystick from a camera ?
[11:25] <eeki> does any one play computers
[11:26] <holycow> that should give you a list from which you should be able to surmise what it probably is
[11:26] <ubuntu__> um yeah
[11:26] <pcfan> Hii, After I installed ubuntu without making a boot partition, I made a one (50MB), and I don't know how to update fstab and copy the kernels... can you help ?
[11:26] <eeki> i can"t
[11:26] <ubuntu__> ? --- can ubuntu take games??
[11:26] <eeki> yes
[11:26] <ChocoCid> ubuntu plays games fine
[11:26] <holycow> gansinho, you need a memory card reader.  you just plug it into the  usb port, plag the card into it and yoru done
[11:26] <mwright2> eeki? you can't do that
[11:26] <eeki> no who says
[11:26] <Trackilizer> holycowm i can't even re-install.... after booting from the dapper CD, the screen goes blank and nothing happens
[11:27] <mwright2> you need like 2-5 GB free to install ubuntu
[11:27] <Mille> holycow, but isnt' there any easy way to make easyubuntu think it runs for the first time?
[11:27] <ubuntu__> games like doom 3?
[11:27] <thatGuy_> thanks guys.  I'll backup, then I'll try some of this uninstall gnome methods that I've googled. they may break ubuntu, so that's why I'm backuping up first
[11:27] <mwright2> or else you're pushing shit up a hill
[11:27] <ChocoCid> doom3 i think runs on wine, hold on
[11:27] <holycow> Mille, i'm not sure what that question means.
[11:27] <eeki> my can"t play runescape
[11:27] <gansinho> holycow: but I don't have a memory card reader, I could not mount it via the camera?
[11:27] <holycow> your trying to remove an application?
[11:27] <yemu> any ltsp experts here? i need help
[11:27] <sioux> what's mubuntu?
[11:27] <holycow> if so use apt to remove it
[11:27] <AlexC> sioux, Media Ubuntu
[11:27] <Seveas> yemu, #edubuntu is a better guess
[11:27] <mwright2> anyone here know abuot autofs
[11:27] <holycow> gansinho, it actually depends on the camera
[11:27] <mwright2> runescape doesn't work under firefox on windows does it?
[11:28] <ChocoCid> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=2887
[11:28] <holycow> gansinho, you should be able to just plug it in via usb and one of two things will happen
[11:28] <eeki> does anyone know how to remove ubuntu
[11:28] <mwright2> so if it doesn't work on firefox on windows, it probably won't work on linux
[11:28] <sioux> alexc where can I get some info about it
[11:28] <holycow> either it will be loaded as a block device and will appear as an icon on your desktop
[11:28] <Mille> holycow, i want easyubuntu act like if nothing was installed. like when i run it for the first time.
[11:28] <gansinho> holycow: oh gosh... I can import the pics
[11:28] <mwright2> eeki you could use dd
[11:28] <AlexC> sioux, there was a thread in www.ubuntuforums.org in the Cafe
[11:28] <holycow> or it will use one of those camera protocls and gtkam will popup for you
[11:28] <AlexC> do a serach for "Mubuntu"
[11:28] <ubuntu__> what format is this??
[11:28] <eeki> holycow, i want ot talk to u!!!!!
[11:28] <holycow> Mille, #easyubuntu
[11:28] <holycow> eeki, uh oh
[11:28] <holycow> why?
[11:28] <holycow> :)
[11:29] <AlexC> hehe
[11:29] <AlexC> ha, what the
[11:29] <Arcad3> when the new Ubuntu is gona be released?
[11:29] <mwright2> can anyone help me with autofs
[11:29] <AlexC> 26th October,
[11:29] <AlexC> hopefully] 
[11:29] <gansinho> holycow: but it does not automaticaly mount the memory stick like it does with an ipod for example
[11:29] <Trackilizer> holycow, not being able to boot into the LIVE cd mean something is really wring with my hardware right?
[11:29] <holycow> gansinho, yeah like i said .. most cameras these days use a proprietary camera image transfer protocol
[11:30] <holycow> that means the card isnt viewed as as a block device so it doesn't mount like one ... i.e. lik eyour ipod
[11:30] <gansinho> holycow: damn, there's no way to "hack" it?
[11:30] <ghostshadow189> why i cant use show desktop button ?
[11:30] <holycow> what it does is que gtkam to startup and download the images via that protocol
[11:30] <holycow> Trackilizer, well probably but depends
[11:31] <holycow> Trackilizer, what cpu/ram do you have?
[11:31] <ubuntu__> anyone from seattle wa???
[11:31] <Jesse1984> is it normal when installing ubuntu 6.06 with alternate cd for the partition manager to come up 3 times saying the same things while you keep selecting the same options you have already selected 2 times previously!??
[11:31] <Mille> not much ppl alive in #easyubuntu :p
[11:31] <Trackilizer> well, it's a rather old system.... only 1.2GHZ and only 256MB of RAM
[11:31] <Arcad3> where can i fin info about the latest ubuntu?
[11:31] <gansinho> ghostshadow189: try to ctrl+alt+D (the letter, d) maybe the problem is just the button..
[11:31] <holycow> Jesse1984, yes most of the time people forget to scroll all the way to the bottom and select 'finish'
[11:31] <holycow> >_>
[11:32] <holycow> !edgy
[11:32] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[11:32] <ghostshadow189> gansinho : it works , but why the button didnt work
[11:32] <Jesse1984> holycow: is the finish button not visible unless you scroll down to it?
[11:33] <gansinho> ghostshadow189: try to create a new one... I can't say why it does not work ... sorry =/
[11:33] <Arcad3> !cedega
[11:33] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[11:33] <rubenv> is evolution horribly broken in edgy?
[11:33] <holycow> Jesse1984, well its an option in one of the partition screens ... its kinda on the bottom an dyou need to arrow down to say finished ... i forget the exact terminiology so i'm winging it a bit
[11:33] <holycow> that got me a few times
[11:33] <rubenv> as in: it crashes when I start the mailer component
[11:33] <hazexp> Whoever was looking for Doom 3, the native Linux port of it is available here: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/doom/
[11:33] <ghostshadow189> gansinho : u mean that remove and add another to panel ?
[11:33] <mwright2> can anyone help us with autofs
[11:33] <holycow> rubenv, here it seems okay so far
[11:33] <gansinho> ghostshadow189: right click in a free area in the pannel>add to pannel and add a new one
[11:33] <rubenv> holycow: darn
[11:34] <rubenv> that's not good
[11:34] <gansinho> ghostshadow189: yup, try that...
[11:34] <Jesse1984> holycow: when it gets to that screen again for the FOURTH time (hehe) i will holla with what i see.. cheers
[11:35] <holycow> Jesse1984, sure
[11:35] <ubuntu__> im lost --- did we land yet??
[11:35] <ghostshadow189> gansinho : it didnt work :(
[11:36] <gansinho> ghostshadow189: I dunno a lot about programming, I can't help you, sorry, use the shortcut instead until you solve it
[11:37] <ghostshadow189> anyway , thanx :D
[11:37] <gansinho> ghostshadow189: nevermind =)
[11:37] <aaron_> hi
[11:37] <onorin> fyrestrtr,  used the drivers from saveas. It didn't work. I rebooted  and I got black screen again. Then I reverted the Xorg.conf. And booted
[11:37] <aaron_> ive just download two .jsp files... how do i install them
[11:37] <aaron_> one is the download and one is the isntall i think?
[11:38] <Cartas> "nstall your kernel-source, and then get into menuconfig and sync its options with those given below"
[11:38] <highneko> Double clicking my titlebar shades it, and I want it to maximize. How's this done?
[11:38] <Cartas> How do I do that? :O
[11:39] <aaron_> to put it another way, what is a .jsp file
[11:39] <SeraVitae> sounds like something to do with java.
[11:40] <Arcad3> WRNING do not use Windows in this time of the year beacause in a VIRUS STORM aproaching:)))
[11:40] <Jesse1984> holycow: ok.. i have this up: this in an overview of currently configured partitions and mount points. select a partition to modify its settings ect ect. Now the partitions are already set. ext3 primary swap logical. down the bottom are 2 options: undo changes to partitions and finish partitioning and write changes to disk. I have chosen the latter 3 times now and ended back at this screen everytime
[11:40] <hazexp> JavaScript Page IIRC
[11:40] <holycow> Jesse1984, did you setup your / ?
[11:40] <Jesse1984> holycow: yeh its set..
[11:40] <Arcad3> WARNING do not use Windows in this time of the year beacause in a VIRUS STORM aproaching:)))
[11:41] <gansinho> holycow: thanks for the help!
[11:41] <holycow> so you select write to disk and brings you back here?
[11:41] <hazexp> No, sorry, it's Java Server Page, *not* Javascript Page as previously mentioned
[11:41] <holycow> gansinho, no problem
[11:41] <Trackilizer> holycow, i just tried a knoppix livecd, and i still have the same problem, somewhere in the boot procces, the screen simply goes blank... and nothing happens after that
[11:41] <Trackilizer> could it be my harddrive is dead?
[11:42] <Arcad3> Trackilizer:unplug the source wait 2 min then plug it back
[11:42] <holycow> Trackilizer, ye it could also be bad ram.  just out of curiosity did you have another os on this system? did it ever work?
[11:42] <nox-Hand> Hey
[11:42] <Arcad3> computers power source
[11:42] <Jesse1984> holycow: it then goes to a confirmation screen, yes/no/goback and i chose yes then i end up back there! i dont get it
[11:42] <harrism> does anyone know how to start vegastrike in linux? I just installed it but cannot find in anywhere
[11:42] <holycow> Jesse1984, what are the partitions again?
[11:43] <Trackilizer> holycow, it's my old PC that used to have win98, but I've used it for ubuntu for  over a year now, i have this problem since yestery
[11:43] <Trackilizer> it just came out of the blue
[11:43] <Ackeubu_> is it possible to install dapper over an other ubuyntu distro without formating the drives?
[11:43] <onorin> can anyone help me with fglrx  ?
[11:43] <holycow> Trackilizer, ohhhhhhh, chances are the hd is dead
[11:43] <Arcad3> do that Trank..
[11:43] <holycow> Trackilizer, that makes sense.... its managed to read the hd up to that part then it gets no further response
[11:43] <Arcad3> it happend to me
[11:43] <sioux> mubuntu is a dream or reality!
[11:44] <Trackilizer> crap! oh well! i'll try another hardrive i have lyring around
[11:44] <Trackilizer> thanks alot guys
[11:44] <holycow> sioux, welcome :)
[11:44] <onorin> Can anyone help me with fglrx  ?
[11:44] <holycow> Trackilizer, no problem hopefully it works
[11:44] <livingdaylight> i got a serious problem: kernel panic. Unsuccessfully tried to install Mandriva which crashed and now i can't get back into Ubuntu. It loads up unti rootfilesystem but then hangs
[11:44] <aaron_> how do i change into a director using linux terminal
[11:44] <Arcad3> Mandriva sucks
[11:44] <aaron_> directory
[11:44] <Arcad3> cd
[11:44] <sioux> holy thanks.. to where a real world or what? :-)
[11:44] <aaron_> doesn work?
[11:44] <Arcad3> cd directory
[11:44] <onorin> aaron_, cd dir_name
[11:44] <Jesse1984> holycow: ahh i have just gone through the process once more! so make sure.. i dont know exactly, like this i think: primary - ext3 - / (9.3gb)then: logical - swap (454mb [there abouts] ) On ide2 master (hde)
[11:45] <livingdaylight> Arcad3: is that al lyou can say? :s
[11:45] <aaron_> ahhh
[11:45] <holycow> sioux, who needs the real world?
[11:45] <holycow> hehe
[11:45] <aaron_> forget capital letter at the start of dir name
[11:45] <aaron_> :)
[11:45] <Arcad3> EN is not my native language
[11:45] <onorin> Can anyone help me with fglrx  ?
[11:45] <onorin> doh
[11:45] <sioux> holy the world!
[11:45] <livingdaylight> Arcad3: some people say mandriva is great. I only wanted to test it. Now i can't get back into Ubuntu
[11:45] <holycow> Jesse1984, that looks right so its not like its borking because of an unworkable config
[11:45] <Arcad3> format the drive
[11:45] <Arcad3> reinstall
[11:45] <cntb> !fglrx > cntb
[11:46] <sioux> and pheraps google too!
[11:46] <onorin> !fglrx
[11:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:46] <onorin> no
[11:46] <livingdaylight> Arcad3: talking to me?
[11:46] <holycow> Jesse1984, you got me there dude, i really thought you werent able to select the that option
[11:46] <Arcad3> yes
[11:46] <holycow> :/ i'm sorry, not sure what to suggest
[11:46] <onorin> I can't run fglrx, All I get is black screen
[11:46] <livingdaylight> Arcad3: reformat my hardrive and reinstall Ubuntu?
[11:46] <nox-Hand> What tool should I use to connect to wireless networks+
[11:46] <Arcad3> yes
[11:46] <onorin> Anyone ?
[11:47] <Jesse1984> holycow: argh! i have no idea then.. this is hurting me.. why is it so hard!??
[11:47] <livingdaylight> Arcad3: ohhhh.. Noooooooooooo - Mamma MIa.
[11:47] <cntb> why fglrx is a name for ATI ?
[11:47] <livingdaylight> Arcad3: Geeezuz Christ!!! dont say that pleeeeeeeeeze!!!???
[11:47] <holycow> Jesse1984, its a freak accident of some sort, i assure you its exceptionally rare.  infact i've NEVER heard of that
[11:47] <holycow> :/
[11:47] <holycow> like 1 in a million kinda deal
[11:47] <livingdaylight> Arcad3: nononono...
[11:48] <holycow> Jesse1984, wait are you using th elive cd
[11:48] <livingdaylight> Arcad3: there must be an alternative
[11:48] <holycow> or the alternate cd?
[11:48] <Jesse1984> holycow.. hmm maybe ill try live cd again.
[11:48] <Arcad3> i dont know the otheralternative
[11:48] <Jesse1984> alternative cd
[11:48] <Arcad3> i use that
[11:48] <holycow> Jesse1984, perhaps yeah ... this is the first time i've heard of di failing
[11:49] <livingdaylight> Arcad3: will i be able to save and back up my home directory?
[11:49] <Arcad3> u have imp files?
[11:49] <holycow> livingdaylight, yeah thats the great thing about linux, the system doesn't say 'can't back up home dir because of a held file'
[11:49] <livingdaylight> Arcad3: i cannot lose my home dir
[11:50] <Jesse1984> holycow: ok i have it up once more.. here is exactly the config of the partitions:
[11:50] <Arcad3> i dont know madriva!
[11:50] <livingdaylight> holycow: holy Smoley .
[11:50] <Arcad3> i used it ..sucks
[11:50] <Arcad3> formated the hhd after
[11:50] <onorin> I can't run fglrx, All I get is black screen. Can some one help ?
[11:51] <highneko> Is it possible to change panel text to white in dapper, gnome?
[11:51] <livingdaylight> Arcad3: i don't know what imp files are
[11:51] <Arcad3> important
[11:51] <livingdaylight> Arcad3: did you try mandriva?
[11:51] <Arcad3> yes
[11:51] <livingdaylight> Arcad3: they were saying how great it is. \5 on distrowatch
[11:51] <Arcad3> it sucks
[11:51] <nox-Hand> !tell nox-Hand about wireless
[11:51] <onorin> the best distro is SimplyMEPIS
[11:51] <livingdaylight> Arcad3: why? how exactly does it suck?
[11:52] <livingdaylight> Arcad3: they say urpmi is better than apt-get
[11:52] <Arcad3> no packages database
[11:52] <holycow> livingdaylight, for the entire life of that distro its never worked
[11:52] <holycow> ever
[11:52] <holycow> there is always something hosed in it
[11:53] <livingdaylight> holycow: Ubuntu is and has been my primary os since 4 years
[11:53] <Jesse1984> ide2master (hdc) -10.1 GB Maxtor 31024h2 [new line]  #1 primary 9.7GB B F ext3    / [new line]  #5 logical 452.4MB   F swap    swap [new line]  ide2 slave (hdd) - 10.2 GB ST310014a [new line]  undo changes to partitions [new line]  finish partitioning and write changes to disk [new line]  go back
[11:53] <holycow> livingdaylight, cool
[11:53] <livingdaylight> holycow: i was only wanting to test mandriva's new release on my spare hardrive. Now i've paid the ultimate price :(
[11:53] <Ackeubu_> !dapper
[11:53] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[11:53] <Ackeubu_> !installdapper
[11:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about installdapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:53] <Ackeubu_> !downgradetodapper!!!
[11:54] <Ackeubu_> !downgradetodapper
[11:54] <holycow> livingdaylight, well it happens.  reinstall.  next time try vmware and install mandrive as a guest system there
[11:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about downgradetodapper!!! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about downgradetodapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:54] <Ackeubu_> !damn!!
[11:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about damn!! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:54] <defcon8> does anyone use a isl3886 chipset wifi card?
[11:54] <holycow> that way you can toss it, back it up, reinstall it as you want
[11:54] <Ackeubu_> !dapper
[11:54] <livingdaylight> Oh, Geeezus Christ - Pleeze help me. Mama Mia!!!
[11:54] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[11:54] <boink> !etchy
[11:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about etchy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:55] <Jesse1984> holycow: heres the screen: ide2master (hdc) -10.1 GB Maxtor 31024h2 [new line]  #1 primary 9.7GB B F ext3    / [new line]  #5 logical 452.4MB   F swap    swap [new line]  ide2 slave (hdd) - 10.2 GB ST310014a [new line]  undo changes to partitions [new line]  finish partitioning and write changes to disk [new line]  go back
[11:55] <livingdaylight> holycow: i didn't want to reinstall Ubuntu until the release of Edgy and then in my own good time
[11:55] <mikeymike-linux> how would i do this command if i already have the file extracted to /root/  i'm not quite sure how to do this...    "tar -jOxf /root/file.tar.bz2 file.img | dd of=/dev/hda2 bs=512 skip=63"
[11:55] <holycow> Jesse1984, looks right again!  nice.  and when you say write changes?
[11:55] <defcon8> anyone?
[11:55] <burgermann> My mouse doesn't work in Ubuntu 6.06 or 6.10. It works in 5.10 though.
[11:56] <holycow> livingdaylight, well the thing is if you install dapper now again ...
[11:56] <holycow> you can just dist upgrade to edgy
[11:56] <highneko> Double clicking my titlebar shades it, and I want it to maximize. How's this done?
[11:56] <burgermann> It lags like hell
[11:56] <holycow> there really is  no advantage to waiting
[11:56] <Jesse1984> holycow: when i say write changed i end up back where i started again
[11:56] <burgermann> If I unplug it, and reinsert it, Ubuntu dies
[11:56] <Jesse1984> oh hang on! should i configure LVM ????
[11:56] <variant> anyone had 3d acceleration working with 3d rage graphics card?
[11:56] <oskude> highneko, System -> Preferences -> Windows
[11:56] <holycow> Jesse1984, your blowing my mind ... *ummm*
[11:56] <burgermann> Anyone heard about somehting similiar?
[11:57] <SeraVitae> um i just installed proftpd server. how can i find where it is heh
[11:57] <livingdaylight> holycow: in the whole history of Ubuntu upgrading to the next release has never worked for me. Always need freshinstall for complete peace of mind
[11:57] <holycow> Jesse1984, have you had another os installed on that hd ? just curious
[11:57] <burgermann> It's a USB mouse and seems like every device I plug in, makes Ubuntu die
[11:57] <SeraVitae> n/m found it
[11:57] <highneko> oskude: Thanks you. :3
[11:57] <holycow> livingdaylight, there is some truth to that, i've had to fix a few things manually yes
[11:58] <burgermann> I've tried with acpi=off noapic nolapic. Nothing seems to work.
[11:58] <holycow> livingdaylight, lets see if they get it right this time ... i think maybe 6  month turnaround time may be too short to really troubleshoot that stuff
[11:58] <Jesse1984> holycow: no it was a storage drive on my old pc.. but i have formatted it with fdisk anyway.. totally empty
[11:58] <highneko> Cannot start the preferences application for your window manager    Window manager "beryl" has not registered a configuration tool
[11:58] <holycow> Jesse1984, i'm completely not helping here at all
[11:58] <ChocoCid> uh, you need beryl-manager, i think
[11:58] <holycow> i'm sorry dude i thought i had an idea
[11:58] <Jesse1984> holycow: should i configure LVM ?
[11:59] <holycow> Jesse1984, no need to if you only have one hd
[11:59] <Jesse1984> holycow: no i have 2 hd
[11:59] <phanter> hello there. I have files covred with question marks (?) on a cd. How can I find out what language I need to install to make it readable...
[12:00] <frogzoo> phanter: file filename  maybe
[12:00] <holycow> Jesse1984, well depends i've never needed to use lvm ... if you wanted to use the other drive too i would just mount it as /home my self
[12:01] <Jesse1984> holycow: and i just tried to configure LVM on the partitons for the hell of it.. it errored saying an error occured while writing the changes to the disks , the configuration of the logical volume manager is aborted.. [go back]  [continue] 
[12:01] <phanter> frogzoo: I do not understand your hint .  .
[12:01] <holycow> Jesse1984, maybe there is something weird going on with the hd?
[12:01] <Arcad3> what software for ubuntu is similat to MAcromedia Dreamwaver?
[12:01] <Arcad3> *similar
[12:01] <holycow> Jesse1984, try installing it on the other just for kicks?
[12:02] <holycow> Arcad3, quanta+
[12:02] <Jesse1984> holycow: thanks for all your help anywayz! i appreciate it.. i have to roll now.. i will try install on the other tomorrow.. cheers!
[12:02] <holycow> thats as close as it gets
[12:02] <Arcad3> thanks
[12:02] <holycow> Jesse1984, later
[12:02] <oskude> Arcad3, you could allso look at "nvu"
[12:02] <phanter> frogzoo: oke I see, but that tells a lot but not the langauge
[12:04] <Arcad3> will try that too
[12:04] <frogzoo> phanter: language is irrelevant, it's the right unicode font installed you need
[12:04] <SeraVitae> does anyone here use proftpd?
[12:05] <onorin> Can anyone guide me for fglrx ? All I get is black screen. Here's my log files http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25957/
[12:05] <phanter> frogzoo: I understand, but file does not tell me this (we are talking about music files)
[12:05] <gyhu> hi. what programm (free) should i use to resize partiotion under windows xp to make free space for linux installation?
[12:05] <Arcad3> onorin fglrx is the video driver for ur Videocard?
[12:05] <frogzoo> !ati > onorin
[12:06] <onorin> frogzoo, no how to is working for me
[12:06] <onorin> Arafangion, I only want to enable 3D indeed
[12:06] <onorin> Arcad3,  I only want to enable 3D indeed
[12:07] <Arcad3> 3d works for me with default nvidia-glx
[12:07] <onorin> Arcad3, if I write "fglrx" into my xorg file . I got a black screen
[12:07] <Arcad3> u have ati?
[12:07] <grades> hey all
[12:07] <onorin> ati radean 9200 on my hp laptop
[12:07] <grades> i need a little help plz
[12:07] <onorin> with 1600 x 1050 resolution
[12:08] <highneko> Is it possible to change panel text to white in dapper, gnome?
[12:08] <Arcad3> x doesn't suport the driver
[12:08] <onorin> ?
[12:08] <oskude> onorin, i think fglrx is only for radeon9250+
[12:08] <Arcad3> !display driver
[12:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about display driver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:08] <onorin> oskude, I don't think so. it is written as 8500 +
[12:08] <onorin> oskude, I am just trying to enable Direct Rendering
[12:09] <oskude> onorin, ok ... if "man fglrx" says so...
[12:10] <reverie> Hey guys
[12:10] <reverie> has anyone with an award bios had this beep squence during a post
[12:10] <onorin> frogzoo, when I follow that tutorail I got a blackscreen
[12:10] <reverie> 1 long 2 short, then 1 high tone then 1 low tone?
[12:10] <bbrazil> reverie: you're best off getting your hands on the manual
[12:10] <reverie> bbrazil, heh
[12:11] <bbrazil> reverie: google the model number
[12:11] <grades> reverie it could be a host of things
[12:11] <oskude> onorin, after that black screen, open /var/log/Xorg.0.log and look for [EE] 
[12:11] <reverie> award bios's are pretty generic
[12:11] <grades> ram, vga card
[12:12] <onorin> oskude
[12:12] <onorin> oskude, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25957/ here all the log files
[12:12] <grades> i need some help
[12:12] <reverie> not ram
[12:12] <onorin> I cant figure it out
[12:12] <bbrazil> reverie: that's an odd sequence, you'll have to check the manual
[12:12] <B-Minus> hello
[12:12] <Gradius9> hi
[12:13] <B-Minus> i just want ubuntu with kde, is it a good idea to just install kubuntu ?
[12:13] <Gradius9> yes
[12:13] <B-Minus> ok
[12:13] <grades> i want ubuntu to boot up!
[12:13] <oskude> onorin, please just post one file per pastebin...
[12:14] <oskude> onorin, and are you using dapper ? did you install fglrx from ubuntu repos ?
[12:14] <onorin> oskude, that makes a lot files though. Ok I will proceed
[12:14] <oskude> onorin, i need only that one log file after "black screen"
[12:15] <SeraVitae> I just installed proftpd, it made an ftp user, i checked the configuration file which is default anonymous, and i can connect to the ftp but it keeps saying login incorrect
[12:15] <SeraVitae> any ideas what to try?
[12:15] <onorin> oskude, I am using dapper. I insalled first from repos, then from seveas as official ati drivers
[12:15] <v3l0ct> onorin: the latest ATI drivers (8.29.6) support 9500+, any driver prior will support from 8500+
[12:15] <onorin> oskude, both I got the same result
[12:15] <onorin> v3l0ct, I installed 8.28, would it matter ?
[12:16] <Ackeubu_> !ati
[12:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:16] <Gradius9> Anyone here who has headless systems?
[12:16] <Gradius9> with dapper?
[12:16] <v3l0ct> onorin: as long as you have 8500+ is ok
[12:16] <onorin> oskude, Ialso some people said it is because the resolution is too high (as 1600 x 1050)
[12:16] <SeraVitae> Gradius9 - im doing one now
[12:16] <ompaul> Gradius9, I do - not just dapper :)
[12:16] <onorin> v3l0ct, I have 9200 mobility, with 8.28 and I got a bluescreen
[12:17] <onorin> oskude, I am gonna post the log file
[12:17] <ompaul> Gradius9, do you have a question
[12:17] <ChocoCid> !swap
[12:17] <oskude> onorin, if your monitor supports that, should not be problem... but as i said /var/log/Xorg.0.log should have a line with [EE]  if theres an error
[12:17] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[12:17] <v3l0ct> onorin: is it a true ATI card?
[12:17] <Gradius9> SeraVitae, ompaul , Just did the latest sysupdate. and now vnc server wont start so I have not a connection over vnc
[12:17] <SpComb> bluescreen as in ncurses screen bit a blue background?
[12:17] <v3l0ct> onorin: this is on a laptop, ah
[12:17] <ompaul> Gradius9, have you ssh enabled on that box?
[12:17] <Gradius9> SeraVitae, ompaul , but smb and ssh still works so I can do thing in ssh
[12:18] <v3l0ct> let me look at the files
[12:18] <Gradius9> ompaul, yes
[12:18] <SeraVitae> grades - do you use an external vnc
[12:18] <SeraVitae> or 'remote desktop'
[12:18] <onorin> v3l0ct, yes it is a laptop
[12:18] <onorin> v3l0ct, all here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25957/
[12:18] <Gradius9> SeraVitae, using the built in vnc server in dapper
[12:18] <grades> nope
[12:18] <onorin> v3l0ct, I am trying to seperate them now
[12:18] <Cartas> I followed this (http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_new_8.29.6_drivers_in_Ubuntu_Dapper_Manually) exactly, yet it still won't work!
[12:18] <Gradius9> SeraVitae, Guess that is remote desktop
[12:19] <SeraVitae> *nod*
[12:19] <Cartas> Anyone here know how to get ATi drivers working? :(
[12:19] <ronybeck> Cartas, have you install the driver?
[12:19] <oskude> onorin, you know that even the ati radeon driver doesnt allways work on notebooks, even under ms-windows
[12:19] <Cartas> ronybeck: As I said, I followed http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_new_8.29.6_drivers_in_Ubuntu_Dapper_Manually exactly.
[12:19] <SeraVitae> grades - disable the remote desktop feature, ps aux | grep vnc to make sure no other deamons are running
[12:19] <reverie> oh nice, the manual on gigabyte's site is just how to isntall sata drives
[12:19] <SeraVitae> then turn on remote desktop again and ps aux | grep vnc again
[12:19] <SeraVitae> to check that it successfully goes down and comes back up
[12:19] <frogzoo> !ati > Cartas
[12:19] <ronybeck> Cartas, why install them manually?
[12:19] <onorin> oskude, AFAIR it was working on breezy
[12:19] <Cartas> Hm?
[12:20] <reverie> nm, they put it right at the bottom
[12:20] <Gradius9> SeraVitae, will do
[12:20] <ompaul> !install > Cartas
[12:20] <oskude> onorin, ok, so try to get the same version drivers
[12:20] <Cartas> I've used the ATi installation-guide method, ronybeck.
[12:20] <ompaul> !ati > Cartas
[12:20] <reverie> oooh, ati under linux
[12:20] <reverie> nothankyouverymuch
[12:21] <Cartas> lol
[12:21] <onorin> oskude, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25959/   # only the log file . Note that this is after booting in recovery mode
[12:21] <ronybeck> Cartas, yes, but why?
[12:21] <ompaul> Cartas, the bot has send your client urls that are useful
[12:21] <reverie> im seeling my notebook to buy one with nvidia or intel gpu
[12:21] <Cartas> I noticed, thanks ompaul!
[12:21] <onorin> v3l0ct,  oskude, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25959/   # only the log file . Note that this is after booting in recovery mode
[12:21] <Cartas> and ronybeck, what do you mean? :o
[12:21] <Gradius9> SeraVitae, I am pretty new to this, I get this
[12:21] <Gradius9> 1000      5556  0.0  0.3   2876   796 pts/0    S+   12:21   0:00 grep vnc
[12:21] <SeraVitae> yep that's okay, thats the command you just typed
[12:21] <SeraVitae> is that with remote desktop turned off?
[12:21] <ed_> guys, whats the package name for the kernel headers in dapper? seems to me that just 2.4.27 headers are there...
[12:21] <ompaul> Cartas, that is the collective wisdom of the ubuntu community on how to deal with ati
[12:21] <ed_> or even kernel sources
[12:22] <Gradius9> SeraVitae, ON, I dont know how to turn it off in command
[12:22] <Cartas> I think I've been through all of that, ompaul.
[12:22] <oskude> onorin, well, theres no flgrx driver there...
[12:22] <onorin> oskude, v3l0ct ,No I guess not recovery but after reverting the xorg file
[12:22] <Cartas> But I'll go over it again :|
[12:22] <wrabbit^> Anybody know C?
[12:22] <ronybeck> Cartas, Why did you use this guide rather than install the ubuntu built drivers?
[12:22] <Cartas> When I used the fgrlx ones which come with Ubuntu, WoW does not work very well,
[12:22] <v3l0ct> onorin: you mean reverting to using the "ati" drivers
[12:22] <Gradius9> SeraVitae, Any idea...
[12:22] <Cartas> So, I assumed I'd be better off getting the official ATi drivers.
[12:22] <onorin> v3l0ct, yes
[12:22] <SeraVitae> Gradius9 - go system -> preferences -> remote desktop and actually turn the remote desktop feature off
[12:23] <oskude> Cartas, fglrx IS the "official" ati binary driver...
[12:23] <ronybeck> Cartas, So is the problem the fglrx drivers or WoW?
[12:23] <Cartas> Oh
[12:23] <onorin> v3l0ct, oskude , how can I see the log files, in that black screen thingy
[12:23] <v3l0ct> onorin: so did you run aticonfig after the install?
[12:23] <Cartas> So, I can go to packages etc. and use that one, oskude.  And it's the official upto date one?
[12:23] <oskude> onorin, press ctrl+alt+f1 to get to console #1
[12:23] <onorin> v3l0ct, after installing  the driver from saveas, yes I did it
[12:23] <Gradius9> SeraVitae, it is headless, only ssh connection... if I have to any physcial to the machine, I have to do it later
[12:23] <Cartas> ronybeck:  I've no idea.  I start WoW, and it crashes soon after.
[12:23] <SeraVitae> Oh, i see.
[12:23] <SeraVitae> well.
[12:23] <v3l0ct> onorin: you should use the one from the repos and you still need to run aticonfig after those also
[12:24] <onorin> oskude, I think I tried that, not working, at least ctrl+alt+backspace was not working
[12:24] <ronybeck> Cartas, Ah I get you
[12:24] <onorin> v3l0ct, hang on
[12:24] <SeraVitae> trying to remeber what type of vnc it uses
[12:24] <ronybeck> Cartas, Ubuntu have the official ATI drivers in the repos
[12:24] <Cartas> Repos?
[12:24] <v3l0ct> onorin: it should at least boot up with mesa
[12:24] <ronybeck> Cartas, install them rather than the ones that come be default
[12:24] <Cartas> As in... on the package installer tool?
[12:24] <Cartas> Oh
[12:24] <markeib> what's the command for installing all packages needed by one application i want to compile?
[12:24] <onorin> I followed a guide from wiki howto
[12:24] <Arcad3> ubuntu makes pancakes too?
[12:24] <onorin> v3l0ct, I followed a guide from wiki howto
[12:25] <Subhuman> SeraVitae, itz vino
[12:25] <Subhuman> the vnc gnome uses
[12:25] <Cartas> How, ronybeck?
[12:25] <SeraVitae> ok
[12:25] <Gradius9> SeraVitae, I has worked all the time, weird, think it was ssl updates.. that did this.
[12:25] <v3l0ct> onorin: ok but with the drivers in the repository you still have to run aticonfig
[12:25] <SeraVitae> Gradius9 - well you can do vnc over ssl..
[12:25] <grades> i'm new to linux and i need a little help plz
[12:25] <SeraVitae> did you originally have vnc over ssl?
[12:25] <SeraVitae> or just raw tcp
[12:25] <ronybeck> Cartas, use synaptic
[12:25] <onorin> v3l0ct, I did just a second
[12:26] <Subhuman> grades, whats up?
[12:26] <grades> after installing ubuntu it won't boot up, i get a disk erroe
[12:26] <Cartas> Oh
[12:26] <ronybeck> Cartas, apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:26] <grades> erroe*
[12:26] <grades> error
[12:26] <Cartas> Thanks
[12:26] <grades> lol
[12:26] <Gradius9> SeraVitae, did not have it on, so it maybe set it on when I installed the updates.. going to check if my client support ssl vnc
[12:26] <grades> fialed boot disk
[12:26] <onorin> v3l0ct, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI . I followed this . only " Using drivers from ati.com " section
[12:26] <Cartas> Do you know how I can stop WoW crashing then?  If it's not the graphics, I don't know what it could be...
[12:26] <SeraVitae> Gradius9 - bring vino back up
[12:26] <Arcad3> !make pancackes with ubuntu
[12:26] <ubotu> make: The GNU version of the "make" utility.. In component main, is optional. Version 3.80+3.81.b4-1 (dapper), package size 279 kB, installed size 1312 kB
[12:26] <Gradius9> SeraVitae, just did it raw (internal net)
[12:26] <SeraVitae> mm
[12:27] <onorin> v3l0ct, I got the drivers from Seveas, then run aticonfig  , twice
[12:27] <ronybeck> Cartas, then edit the ` driver     "ati"`  to read `driver          "fglrx"` in /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[12:27] <ompaul> Arcad3, please, this channel is rather busy, if you want random banter go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:27] <onorin> v3l0ct, then I disable the ubuntu provided fglrx, and reboot
[12:27] <ronybeck> Cartas, how are you running WoW?
[12:27] <v3l0ct> onorin: and you have the restricted modules installed
[12:27] <Cartas> Should I run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, ronybeck, or not?
[12:27] <Cartas> I use a program called Wine.
[12:27] <onorin> v3l0ct, I have followed all the howtos in forums . Probably I have done it.
[12:27] <ronybeck> Cartas, you could.  I think that does what you need
[12:28] <Cartas> I've done it loads of times before :P
[12:28] <onorin> v3l0ct, wait a second
[12:28] <ronybeck> Cartas, the problem with WoW is hard to trouble shoot with out knowing the symptoms
[12:28] <Cartas> Hm
[12:28] <Cartas> Well
[12:28] <onorin> v3l0ct, I really suspect that this may be specific to my laptop
[12:28] <Cartas> I log in... and then, after about 1minute, the computer will freeze.
[12:28] <v3l0ct> it's possible
[12:28] <Arcad3> can i make my ubuntu  mak pancakes plss help i.m hungry:))
[12:28] <ompaul> Cartas, it sould not hurt, when you do you should only adjust the driver accept all other values, when done restart X if it is running
[12:28] <Cartas> So I have to just press the reset button on my computer.
[12:28] <onorin> v3l0ct, I mean hp nx7010 just wait a bit
[12:29] <Cartas> Restart X, ompaul?
[12:29] <Gradius9> SeraVitae, "<SeraVitae>	Gradius9 - bring vino back up" how do I do this?
[12:29] <ompaul> Cartas, X is the GUI,
[12:29] <Cartas> Umm...
[12:29] <ronybeck> Cartas, If the problem is just poor graphics performance then installing and configuring fglrx should fix it
[12:29] <Cartas> How do I restart that?
[12:29] <ompaul> Cartas, log out and back in
[12:29] <Cartas> Okay.
[12:29] <v3l0ct> R200 cards are known to be troublesome with the fglrx drivers
[12:30] <Gradius9> SeraVitae, trying to find commands for the vnc server included now on google...
[12:30] <Cartas> I have two Radeon x1900's.
[12:30] <ompaul> Cartas, if it fails log in and choose ATI as the card type
[12:30] <cratuki> What's the appropriate way to make changes to iptables permanent?
[12:30] <Cartas> Okay, I've done with the xserver-xorg reconfiguration, ompaul.  So I'll relog now.
[12:30] <rus> hi all
[12:30] <cratuki> (persistent across reboots)
[12:31] <xexnaor> anyone knows about i center x
[12:31] <rus> I have a dapper LTS CD and I was wondering if there is a way to install without booting the liveCD feature
[12:32] <Cartas> ompaul: By relog, did you mean reboot... or a relog? :o
[12:32] <onorin> v3l0ct, please take a a look at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193116&highlight=fglrx+black
[12:32] <Cartas> I logged back in and nothing seems to have changed :O
[12:32] <ompaul> Cartas, log out and back in
[12:32] <Cartas> Done
[12:32] <onorin> v3l0ct, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=171041&highlight=fglrx+black
[12:32] <Cartas> Now what?
[12:32] <Materazzi> rus, u gotta get the alternate cd
[12:32] <ompaul> Cartas well you can look at that url I sent you
[12:32] <Cartas> Wait...
[12:32] <Cartas> I installed the drivers.
[12:33] <Cartas> Then configured them.
[12:33] <Cartas> Don't I need to reboot to get the drivers working, rather than just a relog? :o
[12:33] <rus> Materazzi: my burner sux, isnt there a boot option for it? like server mode or something?
[12:33] <ompaul> Cartas, not usually if you feel it may help please do so, and please stop using enter in the place of a comma thanks
[12:33] <v3l0ct> onorin: what about it?  only 8.29.6 drivers support X1900 cards
[12:34] <Materazzi> rus, directly from the iso file?
[12:34] <Cartas> Oh, only 8.29.6 drivers support x1900 cards?
[12:34] <Materazzi> i've heard of somthin like this already
[12:34] <v3l0ct> check out ati's webpage, a little research helps a lot
[12:34] <Cartas> ronybeck: Apparently, 8.29.6 drivers are the only ones which work for the x1900...
[12:34] <onorin> v3l0ct, yeah a little irrelevant. Last time  I found someone was complaing it was because the high resolution
[12:35] <v3l0ct> google is your friend
[12:35] <ronybeck> Cartas, ah ok
[12:35] <rus> Materazzi: boot from an iso? how is that done?
[12:35] <Cartas> But, when I try to install them, they don't even let me boot into Linux, I just get onto the command-line interface.
[12:35] <Cartas> With the errors of: 'Fatal Server Error: no screens found.'
[12:35] <Materazzi> rus, u probably could transfer iso file to another machine via lan and boot via lan from that file...
[12:35] <ompaul> Cartas, that is linux :)
[12:35] <hazexp> rus: burn the ISO using any popular CD burning program
[12:35] <v3l0ct> onorin: what resolution are you trying to run?
[12:35] <hazexp> then boot from the CD
[12:36] <onorin> v3l0ct, the default resoluion is 1600 x 1050
[12:36] <Cartas> Hehe, ompaul.  Less correcting me, more helping me! ;)
[12:36] <Materazzi> rus, you're better off writing the iso file into a cd somehow....
[12:36] <rus> me burner sux, the cd turns out corrupt
[12:36] <v3l0ct> onorin: wow, no way you can get that to work with xorg
[12:36] <Cartas> I'll go google for x1900 ubuntu or something, I guess.
[12:36] <ompaul> Cartas, get older cards they work better :)
[12:36] <Cartas> :(
[12:36] <v3l0ct> specially on a 9200 mobility
[12:36] <Cartas> But x1900's are superb!
[12:36] <onorin> v3l0ct, it is working now
[12:36] <Materazzi> rus, burn it from a friend's PC
[12:36] <josh_> hello all. i have an issue with samba... i have a share on my linux box i would like to access from my wifes mac/windows boxs. i can see the share on the network, however i am unable to access it because of authentication errors. i know i am using the correct username and password (well mine... the one im on now). is there a different user that needs to be setup for this? like smbuseradd or something like that?
[12:36] <Cartas> ... in Windows XP...
[12:36] <ompaul> Cartas, not if they are not working correctly
[12:36] <v3l0ct> onorin: awesome
[12:36] <onorin> v3l0ct, I also made it work 3d enabled in suse 10.1
[12:36] <Cartas> In Windows XP they do work!
[12:37] <onorin> v3l0ct, I just want to enable 3d
[12:37] <rus> Materazzi: he has a mac, it would be a pain to share it
[12:37] <cratuki> I want to make changes to my iptables config permanent. Would it be best to create a new file in /etc/init.d to do this?
[12:37] <ubuntu_> hi josh
[12:37] <v3l0ct> onorin: ubuntu has a funny way of setting up systems for some things.  it's a drawback
[12:37] <Materazzi> rus, make him download it again!
[12:37] <ubuntu_> did u add samba user first?
[12:37] <Cartas> v3l0ct: It says this on a wiki for Ubuntu ATi installation:
[12:37] <Cartas> The included fglrx driver supports Radeon 8500+ and the X-series cards up to X1900.
[12:38] <rus> :)
[12:38] <darkanyel> how can i hide "Recent documents" in the places menu???
[12:38] <onorin> v3l0ct, I feel it. This is about resolution or refresh rate. I feel it in my bones
[12:38] <josh_> cd /join samba
[12:38] <josh_> lol
[12:38] <josh_> wrong command
[12:38] <ubuntu_> lol
[12:38] <Gradius9> SeraVitae, well i have to go, will be back later
[12:38] <rus> shoot
[12:38] <SeraVitae> sorry dude im suffering here on my own too heh
[12:38] <rus> my installation hangs mith some python thing
[12:39] <rus> even with 256 ram
[12:39] <ompaul> Cartas, this looks reasonable, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide are you sure you followed it line for line?
[12:39] <SeraVitae> i want these mother**in pythons off my mother**in server!
[12:39] <v3l0ct> onorin: yeah, it should work because it worked with suse. like i said, ubuntu is different in how they setup things.  I prefer slack, straight forward
[12:39] <Cartas> I followed step-2 line-by-line.
[12:39] <Cartas> Method 2*
[12:39] <pluma> Is there a way to cycle through desktop wallpapers once every hour?
[12:39] <rus> Materazzi: the cd is ok I checked it
[12:39] <rus> Materazzi: the cd is ok I checked i
[12:39] <pluma> i.e. random desktop wallpaper.
[12:40] <ompaul> Cartas, try method 1
[12:40] <Cartas> Will do.
[12:40] <rus> Materazzi: the installation quits with some python error thing
[12:40] <josh_> how do i change my network name?
[12:40] <Materazzi> rus, the live cd?
[12:40] <rus> Materazzi: yep
[12:40] <josh_> well my boxes "workgroup" name
[12:41] <rus> Materazzi: got 256 ram, it shouldnt do that
[12:41] <Materazzi> rus, download the alternate...
[12:41] <josh_> and how do i get the gnome desktop back?
[12:41] <xav> josh_, back from what?
[12:41] <ompaul> josh_, what is there in the place of your gnome desktop?
[12:41] <josh_> i used to run ubuntu and kubuntu but i had to einstall on new disk and only have kubuntu disk
[12:41] <onorin> oh linux is so deep
[12:41] <rus> Materazzi: ok, will try
[12:42] <xav> jose, did you install kubuntu?
[12:42] <ompaul> josh_, "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[12:42] <v3l0ct> josh_: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:42] <josh_> yeah i install kubuntu
[12:42] <josh_> ahh
[12:42] <josh_> i tried gnome-desktop
[12:42] <xav> well that would work also
[12:42] <xav> you just have to select gnome from the login manager
[12:42] <Materazzi> rus, i've got 313MB and it barely survives...
[12:42] <xav> which is probably kdm
[12:42] <josh_> but i didn't get all the apps ubuntu had
[12:42] <onorin> v3l0ct, I found the post I were looking for. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=151242
[12:43] <xav> josh_, oh so you can use gnome
[12:43] <josh_> yeah
[12:43] <ompaul> xav, that is why we have ubuntu-desktop - manages look and feel
[12:43] <Materazzi> rus, download xubuntu also... just in case ubuntu doens't make it...
[12:43] <xav> josh_, what the other ppl said then
[12:43] <josh_> i wanted both sets of apps and guis
[12:43] <josh_> thank you
[12:43] <rus> Materazzi: k
[12:43] <xav> ompaul, I know, but I wonder if I don't prefer without it
[12:44] <onorin> v3l0ct, I also found the referred post
[12:44] <xav> ompaul, it installs a bunch of apps I don't want. and default look and feel seems lighter
[12:44] <josh_> that and i remember how to change all my settings from a gnome config :P
[12:44] <Ash-Fox> !
[12:44] <EspenBe> can anyone tell me how to run a service as ipv4 instead of ipv6 in /etc/inetd.conf ?
[12:44] <v3l0ct> oronin: that was on breezy probably, not using xorg 7
[12:44] <ompaul> xav that is your call, the user in question asked for Ubuntu over Kubuntu so ..
[12:45] <v3l0ct> onorin: with xorg 7 you have to use 8.25 and above
[12:45] <onorin> v3l0ct, I am lost
[12:45] <v3l0ct> onorin: i'm sorry
[12:46] <onorin> v3l0ct, should I go for edgy ?
[12:46] <xav> ompaul, nope, he asked gnome. but whatever :) there is no problem
[12:46] <josh_> i wanted the ubuntu desktop more for all the apps that i used to have that i dont with kubuntu :)...and the setups are more... together...
[12:46] <ompaul> xav, point
[12:46] <v3l0ct> onorin: no, do you really have to run ubuntu?
[12:46] <v3l0ct> onorin: or you just want to use gnome
[12:46] <onorin> v3l0ct, not indeed, what do you suggest
[12:46] <ompaul> josh_, "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[12:47] <josh_> working on it now :)
[12:47] <v3l0ct> onorin: depends what you are looking for
[12:47] <v3l0ct> onorin: what is it you want to do with the laptop
[12:47] <LochnessX> can anyone help me with some wine issues?
[12:47] <Bakemono> hi
[12:47] <LochnessX> it keeps crashing when i click the audio tab in "winecfg"
[12:47] <xav> LochnessX, #winehq
[12:47] <LochnessX> ah thanks
[12:47] <xav> LochnessX, remove arts driver
[12:47] <onorin> v3l0ct, I use my computer 1st, for my curiosity and nerdness second, I really want to have a stable system that I could use for daily tasks
[12:47] <xav> LochnessX, winearts.drv.so or something like that
[12:48] <LochnessX> xav: thanks, ill look into this
[12:48] <myesterious> If i am using Dapper but also add edgy resporitorty and install some app from edgy apt, May my linux crash ?
[12:48] <v3l0ct> onorin: that's fine but i mean, you want gnome or kde and do you game or just surf
[12:48] <onorin> v3l0ct, main reason I stick to ubuntu, that it has a huge community
[12:48] <xav> LochnessX, http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5134
[12:49] <v3l0ct> onorin: huge is not better and not saying the ubuntu community is not good but I wouldn't go by size
[12:49] <onorin> v3l0ct, I used both. At first I liked KDE better, but after sometime I disliked it. Gnome seemed to me more native.
[12:49] <LochnessX> xav: Thank you, I will read it now.
[12:49] <xav> onorin, more native?
[12:49] <QuoVadis> Hi!
[12:49] <xav> onorin, what does that mean? :)
[12:49] <LochnessX> xav: No, it gives me an ALSA error.
[12:50] <rambo3> donald thrump huge
[12:50] <onorin> xav, I find QT something seperate from linux itself. Forexample, firefox is in gnome, mono is in gnome, eclipse is in gnome etc
[12:50] <LochnessX> xav: "ALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory"
[12:50] <xav> LochnessX, that shouldnt matter
[12:50] <v3l0ct> onorin: ok, you should give frugalware a try.  0.5 runs latest gnome and a 2.16.17 kernel, gcc4.1.1 and they have packages 8.28.10 for use, much easier install than ubuntu
[12:50] <LochnessX> ill ask in #WINEHQ though.
[12:50] <rambo3> LochnessX, install alsa oss
[12:50] <LochnessX> rambo3: I tried that.
[12:50] <onorin> v3l0ct, I tried suse earlierly. And community and forums are less responsive
[12:51] <xav> onorin, these apps are not in gnome, but they use gtk, right
[12:51] <v3l0ct> onorin: ati = 8.28, with frugalware just go to their irc channel for help
[12:51] <rambo3> LochnessX, your card ? paste /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[12:51] <v3l0ct> onorin: devs are always on irc
[12:51] <LochnessX> rambo3: It was working yesterday.
[12:51] <onorin> xav, true I dont want an arguement now.
[12:51] <LochnessX> rambo3: and normal sound works as well.
[12:52] <xav> onorin, some kde/qt apps are quite nice though, like konqueror, k3b or amarok
[12:52] <onorin> v3l0ct, you know people are always conservative
[12:52] <bz0b> hey just a quick question, does ubuntu guide break your system?
[12:52] <onorin> xav, I don't care, I like gnome better
[12:52] <v3l0ct> onorin: ok, i agree
[12:52] <rambo3> LochnessX, sudo modprobe snd-seq-oss
[12:53] <onorin> v3l0ct, this is why linux crowd screeming for windows users to make a change
[12:53] <xav> v3l0ct, did you say frugalware was easier to install than ubuntu ?
[12:53] <v3l0ct> xav: it's based on slackware
[12:53] <rambo3> LochnessX, and sudo modprobe snd-seq
[12:53] <bun-bun> if anyone has gotten bitpim working, i could use some help
[12:54] <aaron_> ive downloaded a .tar.gz file, apparently all i have to do is install it using my package manager... how do i do that?
[12:54] <ompaul> !offtopic
[12:54] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:54] <oskude> aaron_, no, completely wrong
[12:54] <v3l0ct> onorin: everybody wants to push their own agenda.  I use what i want to use, that makes me happy.
[12:54] <ompaul> bz0b, I had such a complaint last evening
[12:54] <mikeymike-linux> does anyone know what time it is in central u.s.?
[12:55] <v3l0ct> mikeymike-linux: almost 6am
[12:55] <mikeymike-linux> i knew it
[12:55] <onorin> v3l0ct, though I also am a software developer. And I think I have a skill to analyse trends
[12:55] <mikeymike-linux> where do you live
[12:55] <ompaul> mikeymike-linux,  05:55:20
[12:55] <aaron_> oskude - whats the process?
[12:55] <ompaul> mikeymike-linux, that is offtopic
[12:55] <v3l0ct> onorin: you could also try zenwalk.  slack based also, it's very very good.  Uses XFCE
[12:56] <MukiEX> Can't seem to download faad or faac
[12:56] <oskude> !software > aaron_
[12:56] <MukiEX> Is there a source I'm missing?
[12:56] <onorin> v3l0ct, so basically, a platform or a software is good to me. First, if it has a large community
[12:56] <MukiEX> !faac
[12:56] <ubotu> faac: an AAC audio encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.24clean-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 33 kB, installed size 92 kB
[12:56] <ompaul> v3l0ct, onorin offtopic - please move it to #ubuntu-offtopic or pm
[12:56] <MukiEX> !faad
[12:56] <ubotu> faad: freeware Advanced Audio Decoder player. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.0.0+cvs20040908+mp4v2+bmp-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 18 kB, installed size 80 kB
[12:56] <oskude> aaron_, read what ubotu send you
[12:56] <MukiEX> I turned on everything in sources.list, but I still don't get faac to show up in apt-get
[12:56] <ompaul> MukiEX, message the bot - /msg ubotu faad not in the channel for yourself thanks
[12:56] <oskude> !synaptic > aaron_
[12:57] <MukiEX> thanks
[12:57] <oskude> MukiEX, did you do "sudo apt-get update" ?
[12:57] <MukiEX> Yes.
[12:57] <MukiEX> First thing I did.
[12:57] <ompaul> MukiEX, paste your sources.list in paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us the url thanks
[12:58] <v3l0ct> MukiEX: open a terminal and "sudo apt-get install faac faad"
[12:58] <KDan> is there an ubuntu package for apache2 mod-rewrite? couldn't find it on the ubuntu package search
[12:58] <MukiEX> Sorry, here : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25961/
[12:58] <MukiEX> Thanks, v3l0ct
[12:58] <MukiEX> faac has no installation candidate.
[12:58] <onorin> v3l0ct, thanks for advice
[12:58] <v3l0ct> onorin: np, good luck :)
[12:59] <onorin> v3l0ct,  firstly I will concentrate on my current problem . But i will think about what u said
[12:59] <v3l0ct> :)
[12:59] <oskude> KDan, maybe its in "apache2-common" look "apt-cache show apache2-common"
[12:59] <ompaul> MukiEX, lines 16 and 17 should have multiverse - backports should not be enabled unless you know what you are doing
[12:59] <hdd> hello, with edgy, I got a strange spindown sound on my laptop with seagate HD, somebody else got that to?
[12:59] <ubuntu-newb> where can I get plug ins for the media player to play mpeg and avi files?
[12:59] <oskude> !edgy > hdd
[12:59] <KDan> oskude: cheers
[01:00] <ompaul> MukiEX, and add it to 31 and 32 also then update and install
[01:00] <hdd> oskude: ?
[01:00] <oskude> hdd, read what ubotu send you
[01:00] <MukiEX> So copy lines 16 and 17, adding -backports to each one, and paste at the bottom?
[01:01] <hdd> oskude: thx
[01:01] <ompaul> MukiEX, no
[01:01] <Scorpmoon> help! I installed samba and smbfs, and setup cups server in smb.conf, yet I don't know how to find the printer from my windows machine
[01:01] <wrabbit^> ubuntu-newb: Try here..... easy steps and info... http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[01:01] <ompaul> MukiEX, add multiverse to 16, 17 31 and 32 and I would not bother with backports
[01:01] <ben_underscore> ubuntu-newb: or read this https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/codecs.html
[01:01] <Scorpmoon> if I connect to \\mylinuxmachine then I get a dialog prompting for username/password, but the linux login here doesn't work
[01:01] <MukiEX> Thanks, will do
[01:03] <MukiEX> arrggg, thanks so much, it works now ^_^
[01:03] <ompaul> MukiEX, of course it does ;-)
[01:04] <MukiEX> Is there an easy way to build a deb?
[01:05] <oskude> !checkinstall > MukiEX
[01:05] <ompaul> !checkinstall > MukiEX
[01:05] <ompaul> ohh
[01:05] <oskude> MukiEX, but please dont use checkinstall for distribution ;)
[01:06] <MukiEX> Is checkinstall good for a quick fix and a personal deb?
[01:06] <ompaul> MukiEX, yes, that is what it is for
[01:06] <MukiEX> Thanks ;)
[01:06] <ompaul> !build-essential > MukiEX
[01:06] <MukiEX> oh wow, it just DOES it?
[01:06] <Scorpmoon> nevermind, I fixed it
[01:06] <ompaul> MukiEX, if you don't have that - you need that
[01:07] <Scorpmoon> i hate i hate i hate ubuntu
[01:07] <ubunt> hi. i`ve got a problem. i installed ubuntu phisically on hdd (not in vmware) and there is no updates waiting for me to download (but they were always waiting in vmware). how to download those updates manualy?
[01:07] <MukiEX> ompaul : got it; needed it for ati drivers ^_^
[01:08] <ompaul> ubunt, in a terminal "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[01:09] <ubunt> ompaul - works, thanks
[01:09] <zaphod_> am looking for a good movie player with convinient subtitles support
[01:09] <zaphod_> suggestions?
[01:09] <Ash-Fox> mplayer, vlc, totem.
[01:09] <ompaul> zaphod_, mplayer has it, you need to tell the player what file the sublites are in
[01:09] <ompaul> sublites? arrr subtitles
[01:10] <ompaul> rathmines lunch time :-) cheers
[01:11] <zaphod_> ok... here's the problem - my avi file is located at another computer via smb. just opening that file with mplayer won't work.
[01:11] <zaphod_> what to do?
[01:11] <oskude> zaphod_, can avi contain subtitles ?
[01:12] <gandolfthewizard> gm morning all
[01:12] <zaphod_> leave the subtitle, i can't open the file
[01:12] <gandolfthewizard> looking for some help trying to install a program from the terminal and i need to chang the dir to the desktop how do i do that
[01:13] <oskude> zaphod_, well, "cant open" may have many causes... try starting mplayer from termnial, open file, amd look for error messages
[01:13] <zaphod_> gandolf , do cd ~/Desktop
[01:14] <ubunt> 
[01:14] <ubunt> dziala utf u mnie?
[01:14] <zaphod_> oskude, starting it from the terminal works fine. dragging/dbl click from nautilus won't
[01:15] <oskude> zaphod_, cant help on "wont work", sorry...
[01:18] <zaphod_> oskude, i'm sorry. i'll verbosly explain: using nautilus, exploring till the directory containing the movie files (seinfeld...), right click, open with another program, choosing mplayer: response: mplayer opens up, but no movie is showin
[01:18] <oskude> zaphod_, hmm, and what happens if you press play ? (in mplayer)
[01:19] <oskude> zaphod_, btw, sometimes the (atleast here) the video screen was opened "off screen"
[01:19] <cZar|deoner> hi
[01:19] <gilesw> heya gang
[01:19] <gilesw> something seems to be cripling my system
[01:20] <cZar|deoner> how to change the resolution on ubuntu server 6.06
[01:20] <cZar|deoner> ?
[01:20] <gilesw> i've checked top and this ps apt-index-watch keeps coming up
[01:20] <gilesw> system prefs czar
[01:20] <cZar|deoner> ?
[01:21] <gilesw> top of the screen
[01:21] <gilesw> top left
[01:21] <oskude> cZar|deoner, using "VGA=791" for kernel boot options should but the text console to 800x600x32 resolution... i wonder if ubotu knows more
[01:21] <zaphod_> oskude, nothing happens. looks like nautilus gave it the wrong parameters (cause it's working from terminal).. what a pity
[01:22] <sphorbis> hmmm i cant seem to get any thing to mount, any help?
[01:23] <sphorbis> flash drives, my windows drive, microdrive
[01:23] <oskude> zaphod_, if you start the mplayer gui, and open from its "file" menu, does that work ?
[01:24] <oskude> zaphod_, and you could look if theres a known bug...
[01:25] <zaphod_> oskude, no it is not working. it doesn't accept the file "smb://host/share"... about the bug, i'll check it.
[01:25] <oskude> zaphod_, i never used samba, so i cant help on that... have you tested to copy the file locally and then try to play it from nautilus ?
[01:26] <Cartas> Hm, I got the graphics working, ompaul, seems it's just WoW not being able to run properly...
[01:26] <Cartas> If I can get that fixed, then I'll never have to boot into Windows again, hmm...
[01:26] <zaphod_> the file is showing if i start mplayer from the terminal... so this is an isoteric problem... wth
[01:26] <fyrestrtr> !framebuffer
[01:26] <ubotu> If you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[01:27] <Cartas> !worldofwacraft
[01:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about worldofwacraft - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:27] <fyrestrtr> oskude: he sure does :)
[01:27] <Cartas> Aw...
[01:27] <Cartas> !WoW
[01:27] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[01:27] <SpComb> hrhr
[01:27] <nomin> !cedega
[01:27] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[01:27] <Cartas> Is Cegega better than Wine?
[01:27] <SpComb> it's different...
[01:27] <nomin> Cartas:  much better
[01:27] <Cartas> Oh
[01:27] <Cartas> It's also free? :O
[01:27] <SpComb> it costs money, but it's has a lot more support for stuff games need
[01:27] <nomin> Cartas:  you can try the cedega timedemo for free
[01:27] <oskude> fyrestrtr, indeed, thanx (iwas looking for fbdev:)
[01:27] <Cartas> Oh...
[01:28] <Cartas> Will that let me play WoW, nomin? :O
[01:28] <nomin> Cartas:  it costs $5 per month
[01:28] <SpComb> it should, check those urls
[01:28] <Cartas> I'm trying WoW on Wine.
[01:28] <oskude> Cartas, only the cvs version is free, afaik
[01:28] <Cartas> And after about 30-45seconds, it crashes.
[01:28] <nomin> Cartas:  I'll find the link that lists all the games cedega plays.  I'm sure it does WoW.  I played Battlefield 1942 on the demo.
[01:28] <Cartas> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[01:28] <Cartas> It says WoW on there :P
[01:29] <Cartas> Although a small W for 'world'. Someone should change it!
[01:29] <nomin> TransGaming.Org Games Database
[01:29] <nomin> TransGaming.Org Games Database  http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/
[01:30] <Cartas> Hm.
[01:30] <Cartas> How long, exactly, does this free-demo-thing last then?
[01:31] <SpComb> look on the cedega web page
[01:31] <sonick> hi
[01:31] <nomin> World of Warcraft  * This game is officially supported by TransGaming.
[01:31] <nomin>   http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/games/view.mhtml?game_id=3518
[01:31] <nomin> Cartas:  I think it lasts 2 weeks and there is a big cedega logo in the center of the screen.
[01:31] <Cartas> Aw
[01:32] <nomin> Cartas:  but it works very well.  It easily installs updates also.  I haven't paid for it yet, but I think I will.
[01:33] <Cartas> Hm, okay
[01:33] <sonick> all my USB key or hdd doesn't mount automatically. All i have is the message "kernel: [17180033.292000]  usb 3-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 14" in the logs. I tried under knoppix and it works perfectly. How to resolve this ?
[01:33] <nomin> games run a little better on linux with cedega than they do on windows.
[01:33] <hazexp> not always
[01:33] <Cartas> Can I just ask. When I first installed Ubuntu, I had 3 extra options on the screen where you choose OS'/options.
[01:34] <hazexp> I've found games load quicker in Wine/Cedega, but tend to perform worse in terms of FPS
[01:34] <Cartas> Now I have 4 more options for different ubuntu things...
[01:34] <Cartas> Ooo, Theme Hospital works.
[01:36] <nomin> Battlefield 2  * This game is officially supported by TransGaming  http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/games/view.mhtml?game_id=3618
[01:36] <sonick> please I need the datas in a short time...
[01:37] <ifrozen> hali
[01:38] <defcon8> hali
[01:38] <pluma> In case anybody else seeks a desktop wallpaper randomiser: http://oracle.bridgewayconsulting.com.au/~davyd/misc/change-background-py.html -- works like a charm
[01:40] <gandolfthewizard> what are the system debugger program
[01:41] <hazexp> It was so tempting to say Dr. Watson
[01:41] <LoCoOo> hello
[01:42] <gandolfthewizard> can someone tell me were ther system debugger is
[01:42] <ex-parrot> am I the only person who wants write-through caching disabled on my USB pen drives? anyone know how I can do this?
[01:42] <sonick> here is the problem : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25962/
[01:43] <oleen> installing an earlier version of Ubuntu, and then ugrading to current with apt-get is no problem, right?
[01:43] <ex-parrot> supposedly, oleen.... although I wouldn't trust it necessarily
[01:44] <gandolfthewizard> how do i disable the system debugger
[01:44] <ex-parrot> what do you mean, gandolfthewizard ?
[01:44] <oleen> so upgrades are usually done via cd-rom, etc? not as with debian, that is?
[01:44] <gandolfthewizard> i am trying to install crossover and it says please disable or remove the system debugger
[01:45] <livingdaylight> using GParted here. Partitioned my sdb but they have not been assigned mountpoints / and /home And i don't see anywhere how to do that on GParted. Can someone comment/advise, please?
[01:45] <boink> oleen: ubuntu uses apt-get, like debian does
[01:45] <ex-parrot> gandolfthewizard, are you running something like SoftIce?
[01:45] <Cartas> !cedera
[01:45] <boink> thus, if you have a good internet connection you can upgrade your system
[01:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cedera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:45] <gandolfthewizard> no
[01:45] <Cartas> Hm, what's the program called?
[01:45] <ex-parrot> okay, any other realtime debuggers?
[01:45] <oleen> i know, so upgrades should work as flawlessly as with debian, shouldn't it?
[01:45] <boink> yes, in theory.
[01:45] <gandolfthewizard> not that i know of i just install ubuntu last nigt
[01:45] <oleen> but there's a but...?
[01:45] <boink> Murphy's Law ..
[01:46] <xav> oleen, well, it's not the same packages
[01:46] <xav> oleen, but the same system is used
[01:46] <gandolfthewizard> dose ubuntu h ave one
[01:46] <boink> have what?
[01:46] <Cartas> !cedara
[01:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cedara - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:46] <American-Tech> I am new linux and i am having trouble installing programs that are not found in package manger
[01:46] <oleen> i see. i was thinking of installing ubuntu, then upgrading to dapper (no cd-roms lying around...)
[01:46] <Cartas> Hmm...
[01:47] <boink> !apt-get
[01:47] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[01:47] <ex-parrot> gandolfthewizard, not by default
[01:47] <livingdaylight> Like i said using GParted: got /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdb2 to the size i want but don't seem to be able to assign the mountpoints / and /home. Can someone comment/advise, please?
[01:47] <Cartas> Does anyone know the name of the program with which I can run Windows Games.  The one which isn't Wine.
[01:47] <Cartas> !Cedera
[01:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Cedera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:47] <ex-parrot> Cedega,  Cartas
[01:47] <rkd> !cedega
[01:47] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[01:47] <Cartas> Ah, thanks!
[01:47] <xav> Cartas, cedega, but you have to pay for it
[01:47] <Cartas> I'll get the free version :P
[01:47] <ex-parrot> not necessarily xav, don't they have a CVS version that is free?
[01:47] <oleen> Cartas: crossover works for some games, at least the latest beta
[01:48] <rkd> xav: iirc, the cvs source is free if you build it yourself
[01:48] <ex-parrot> anyone know how to disable write-through caching on USB devices?
[01:48] <Cartas> Oh, what's that, oleen?  Better than Wine?
[01:48] <xav> ex-parrot, I think they do, but it's less nice
[01:48] <Cartas> !crossover
[01:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crossover - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:48] <ex-parrot> it is less nice xav, hasn't got the hand-holding gui installer and manager system :P that's what you're paying for really :P
[01:48] <livingdaylight> Hey Guys!!! Can any o you help me with assigning mountpoint to my sdb1 and sdb2 ?
[01:48] <gandolfthewizard> does crossover have a debugger
[01:49] <livingdaylight> gandolfthewizard: hey, is it you?!
[01:49] <oleen> Cartas: it is pre-tested with some applications, e.g. Photoshop, Dreamweaver, so it should work out-of-the-box. the latest beta (6.0 i think it is) should rund half-life, counter-strike.
[01:49] <xav> ex-parrot, I thought it didn't work as well, because it was missing some features. I could be wrong though
[01:49] <gandolfthewizard> yes it is me
[01:49] <sphorbis> 2i'm having trouble with gpg keys, anyone can help?
[01:49] <ex-parrot> it does kind of gandolfthewizard, but not a realtime one
[01:49] <livingdaylight> gandolfthewizard: is it you gandalf the git?
[01:49] <livingdaylight> gandolfthewizard: kevin?
[01:49] <Cartas> Oleen:  World of Warcraft?
[01:49] <gandolfthewizard> how do i turn it off
[01:49] <ex-parrot> xav, could be so
[01:49] <ex-parrot> gandolfthewizard, you don't normally...
[01:49] <oleen> Cartas: i think WoW was listed as well, yes
[01:49] <livingdaylight> gandolfthewizard: no?
[01:50] <xav> Cartas, wine can run wow afaik
[01:50] <Cartas> Yes.
[01:50] <gandolfthewizard> ok
[01:50] <Cartas> But my whole computer freezes up after about 20 seconds.
[01:50] <livingdaylight> gandolfthewizard: say, are you kevin?
[01:50] <oleen> Cartas: search for crossover @ google, and check the release notes for the latest beta release
[01:50] <gandolfthewizard> no i am not kevin
[01:50] <livingdaylight> gandolfthewizard: are you in LONDON
[01:50] <gandolfthewizard> no
[01:50] <xav> crossover is not intended for games
[01:50] <gandolfthewizard> usa
[01:51] <Cartas> Xav:  Care to help me solve my WoW-crashing problem then, old chap? :)
[01:51] <livingdaylight> gandolfthewizard: ok, i know another gandolf is all, no worries
[01:51] <American-Tech> How do install software that is not located in package manger
[01:51] <gandolfthewizard> that is fine
[01:51] <elkbuntu> livingdaylight, given the popularity of LOTR, that's not surprising
[01:51] <ex-parrot> American-Tech, how is it packaged?
[01:51] <bina> hi, does anyone know where KDEs Wlan Assistant stores data on the network you connect to?
[01:51] <ex-parrot> i.e, what is the file extension?
[01:52] <oleen> American-Tech: you could always install from source, if you feel comfortable doing that, not a problem, really
[01:52] <ex-parrot> what are you trying to install, American-Tech ?
[01:52] <livingdaylight> Hey, Guys, seriously, its the 5th time of asking. Using GParted here. got my /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdb2 assigned the size i want but still need to assign mountpoint / and /home.Can anyof you please help me here?
[01:52] <American-Tech> I want to install this http://www.winehq.com/
[01:52] <ex-parrot> livingdaylight, add entries to fstab?
[01:53] <ex-parrot> American-Tech, winehq provide packages of the latest release of wine for ubuntu, see their download page for instructions...
[01:53] <ex-parrot> easy as.
[01:53] <livingdaylight> ex-parrot: errr...how...please speak slow and clear. i'm a noob
[01:53] <gandolfthewizard> i keep on getting an error when i go to install office 2003 any ideas
[01:53] <Cartas> American-Tech: It tells you on the site.
[01:53] <Cartas> http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[01:53] <ex-parrot> livingdaylight, sorry :) edit /etc/fstab, and change the lines for / and /home if you have them, or make new ones. the manual page for fstab (man fstab) should do a better jobe of explaining it than I can
[01:54] <ex-parrot> I require sleep.
[01:54] <livingdaylight> ex-parrot: why cant i do it in GParted?
[01:55] <alex_ubuntu> is there a gui for 606 server
[01:55] <livingdaylight> ex-parrot: or can i do it in the installation phase ?
[01:55] <oleen> i'm considering migrating from gentoo to ubuntu, but of course i want to keep my /home-partition. no known problems doing that during the ubuntu install?
[01:55] <American-Tech> ok I want to understand the basics. I would always need to add to respitory when installing programs?
[01:55] <Cartas> If they're packaged programs, American-Tech.
[01:55] <Cartas> I think
[01:56] <gandolfthewizard> dose anyone here know how to use crossover
[01:56] <American-Tech> ok I think I got that
[01:57] <nomin> American-Tech:  I saw a site that explains how to install exploerer on ubuntu.  It should be helpful.  I'll find it...
[01:57] <nomin> !explorer
[01:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about explorer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <NET||abuse> hey guys, i can't play real player video from a web site(my brother wanted to watch the football on bbc) how can i get support or firefox plugin for real player?
[01:58] <NET||abuse> rather the real player plugin for firefox :P
[01:58] <oleen> IE with crossover worked fine for me, crossover did the whole job from d/l the files to installing and running the app
[01:59] <McNutella> having problems here with "sound server fatal error" can someone help me please ?
[01:59] <Cartas> WIne always crashes when I click 'auido'... :(
[02:00] <American-Tech> Sorry about this I am new to linux and ubuntu..
[02:00] <oleen> trying one more time: i'm considering migrating from gentoo to ubuntu, but of course i want to keep my /home-partition. no known problems doing that during the ubuntu install?
[02:00] <American-Tech> So if i as a silly ? im a newbiee
[02:00] <KDan> where do you tell ubuntu to switch from ipv6 to ipv4?
[02:01] <kemik> American-Tech: if a package isnt existing in your currently configured repositories, and it is availble in some other, then yes you'd have to configure that repos
[02:01] <mumbles> gbrent ?
[02:01] <nomin>  HOWTO Setup Wine  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585&highlight=wine
[02:01] <mumbles> oops worn gperosn i think
[02:02] <kemik> American-Tech: but you can also just download the .deb and install via dpkg
[02:02] <nomin> American-Tech:  that is the best how-to for installing wine and explorer
[02:03] <American-Tech> I already added the respitory and now it shows up in the package manger
[02:03] <American-Tech> What is a deb?
[02:04] <BazziR> a software package
[02:05] <Cartas> Thanks Nomin.  That's one I haven't gone through.
[02:05] <EvilTofu> Is it possible to duel boot osx and ubuntu using 2 HDs?
[02:05] <Cartas> I hope my Wine works after this.
[02:05] <Cerda> when will edgy be released?
[02:05] <gandolfthewizard> ok can someone help me with crossover
[02:07] <wickedpuppy> !schedule > Cerda
[02:07] <nicola> ciao a tutti
[02:07] <wickedpuppy> EvilTofu, one OS per hd ?
[02:07] <wickedpuppy> !it
[02:07] <nicola> potete darmi una mano?
[02:07] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:07] <KDan> where do you tell ubuntu to switch from ipv6 to ipv4?
[02:07] <[A] ndy80> hi
[02:08] <wickedpuppy> ubuntu use ipv6 ?
[02:08] <fyrestrtr> !ipv6 > KDan
[02:08] <wickedpuppy> !ipv6 > wickedpuppy
[02:08] <wickedpuppy> interesting ..
[02:08] <Cerda> !schedule
[02:08] <fyrestrtr> wickedpuppy: /msg ubotu ipv6 works better
[02:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[02:09] <wickedpuppy> okie dokie
[02:09] <[A] ndy80> could you please tell me how can I log in a text file the output of "apt-get dist-upgrade" ? I tried with: apt-get dist-upgrade -qq > output.txt, but no success... only half of the output is logged. Can you help me? I've to submit a bug to bugs.ubuntu.com. Thanks
[02:09] <fyrestrtr> oleen: no shouldn't be a problem, just make sure you do a manual partition.
[02:09] <fyrestrtr> [A] ndy80: apt-get dist-upgrade 2>&1 > output.txt
[02:09] <highvoltage> hi. if I use DNAT on a PC with a public IP address, I only need to set it up on that server, right?
[02:10] <[A] ndy80> fyrestrtr: thanks, I try now.
[02:10] <fyrestrtr> highvoltage: set what up?
[02:10] <KDan> fyrestrtr: thanks
[02:11] <highvoltage> fyrestrtr: DNAT
[02:11] <fyrestrtr> yes, only on the server. The machine that is connected to your modem.
[02:11] <highvoltage> fyrestrtr: I want one of my NAT'd PC's to be publicly accessable over the Internet
[02:11] <highvoltage> fyrestrtr: ok thanks
[02:11] <[A] ndy80> fyrestrtr: it says "syntax error near unexpected token '2' "
[02:11] <fyrestrtr> highvoltage: then either stick it in a dmz or forward the ports from the server to your pc's ip address.
[02:11] <rus> do u need samba for linux-mac sharing?
[02:11] <EvilTofu> wickedpuppy: ok and something will be installedby ubuntu to allow users to select which os to boot?
[02:12] <wickedpuppy> EvilTofu, yes .. grub
[02:12] <fyrestrtr> rus: not really. Samba is only for Windows sharing, but since Mac can see Samba shares, it can work. For macs though, you can just use nfs.
[02:12] <highvoltage> fyrestrtr: what is a 'dmz'? the 'server' that is conected to the internet is a wireless box om my roof, I don't have that much control over it :/
[02:13] <gandolfthewizard> is there anyone here that can help me with crossover
[02:13] <elias_> If I want dapper and edgy simultanously on my PC how would I setup GRUB to accomodate this. Would I use the same /boot partition for both or how is that supposed to look like?
[02:13] <wickedpuppy> dms = de-militarized zone ...
[02:13] <fyrestrtr> highvoltage: dmz = demilitarized zone. An area of a network that is isolated.
[02:13] <EvilTofu> okies thanks
[02:13] <highvoltage> fyrestrtr: ah, ok
[02:13] <rus> fyrestrtr: thanx
[02:14] <American-Tech> the universe respitory is software that not offical with ubuntu?
[02:14] <[A] ndy80> fyrestrtr: nothing to do... it only logs the first part :(
[02:14] <fyrestrtr> highvoltage: if your server is connected to the wireless box, and has the public IP address, and is running DNAT, then you need to configure on that server the firewall to forward the port of the service you are running on your local pc. So, if you are running a web server on your local lan pc which is 192.168.0.23, you would then forward port 80 on your server to 192.168.0.23.
[02:15] <fyrestrtr> [A] ndy80: hrmm...
[02:15] <elias_> If I want dapper and edgy simultanously on my PC how would I setup GRUB to accomodate this. Would I use the same /boot partition for both or how is that supposed to look like?
[02:15] <Zaggynl> <3 linuxdc++
[02:15] <fyrestrtr> [A] ndy80: try dist-upgrade -- 2>&1 > output.txt
[02:15] <EvilTofu> why is it that youtube sometimes shows me a video and sometime doesn't?
[02:15] <highvoltage> fyrestrtr: the 'wireless box' is actually the server, all I get on it is a web interface :)
[02:16] <elias_> I am sure there is a standard procedure for that!
[02:16] <fyrestrtr> highvoltage: what is it, some kind of router?
[02:16] <highvoltage> fyrestrtr: yes, it's from my wireless ISP
[02:16] <EvilTofu> highvoltage: does the web interface have port forwarding sections?
[02:16] <highvoltage> fyrestrtr: they give me a web interface to configure DNAT, but it doesn't seem to be working
[02:16] <fyrestrtr> elias_: no, there isn't :) But you can just replicate your current grub entry for dapper, and just change the image it loads.
[02:16] <richiefrich> ok i need to askl why is  'dd'  segfaulting on me
[02:16] <highvoltage> EvilTofu: it seems so
[02:17] <richiefrich> sudo dd if=/root/tiger-x86/tiger-x86-flat.img of=/dev/hda3 bs=512 skip=6
[02:17] <cyzie> what are the essential pakages i needed to install to play most of the movies ?
[02:17] <[A] ndy80> fyrestrtr: nothing... it stops to the (Y/n) request.... even if I use the -y option
[02:17] <fyrestrtr> cyzie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:17] <flaringo> does anyone know of anything that will increase my performance when playing wow with crossover?
[02:18] <elias_> fyrestrtr: how would the automatic grub update thing behave if I share a boot partition?
[02:18] <fyrestrtr> elias_: I don't know, its not a supported configuration.
[02:18] <erUSUL> richiefrich: are y using standar ubuntu kernel?
[02:18] <cyzie> thanks fyrestrtr
[02:19] <andy> hi, is there a way to switch between KDE and Gnome? (I am using gnome now)
[02:19] <wickedpuppy> andy, of course... installed kde ?
[02:19] <richiefrich> erUSUL yes
[02:19] <andy> not that I know of
[02:20] <andy> can I do sudo apt-get install?
[02:20] <wickedpuppy> andy, then kindly install kde -> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:20] <andrea_> hi
[02:20] <elias_> fyrestrtr: somebody should spend some thoughts on that! this is a quite common scenario and should be supported!
[02:20] <richiefrich> erUSUL Linux Ubuntu 2.6.15-27-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 02:13:27 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:20] <wickedpuppy> andy, after that pls log out and in log-in screen change the session to kde :P
[02:20] <erUSUL> richiefrich: it happens to me too but i thought that it was becouse i use a vanilla beta kernel... can yo test something?
[02:20] <wickedpuppy> elias_, i don't think its common ...
[02:21] <andy> thanks a lot!
[02:21] <wickedpuppy> np
[02:21] <richiefrich> erUSUL ?
[02:21] <erUSUL> richiefrich: does this segfault? dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null bs=1MB count=4
[02:22] <richiefrich> erUSUL i can ask it is for my friend in my channel you are welcome to join
[02:22] <andy> wow, large file
[02:23] <richiefrich> erUSUL i ask the ones idk since i am on gentoo :(
[02:23] <wickedpuppy> :P
[02:23] <andy> so, does kde have any advantages over gnome?
[02:23] <wickedpuppy> richiefrich, stage 1 install ?
[02:23] <andrea_> I have a problem with ubuntu 6.10 beta and babytrans 0.9.2... Can someone help me?
[02:23] <wickedpuppy> andy, nope
[02:23] <richiefrich> wickedpuppy no man i'm not  that crazy
[02:23] <andy> so they are just different?
[02:23] <Rookie_> andy - not in ubuntu, gnome is better to ubuntu
[02:23] <kyja> babytrans????
[02:24] <deFrysk> andrea_, /j #ubuntu+1
[02:24] <erUSUL> richiefrich: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gettext/+bug/42264
[02:24] <wickedpuppy> andy, i am using gnome but burns cd/dvd with k3b ... a kde app .. i don't care which is better
[02:24] <andrea_> yes, the dictionary
[02:25] <deFrysk> andy, whatever you prefer
[02:25] <deFrysk> use that
[02:25] <andy> well, I shall find out what I prefer
[02:25] <deFrysk> yes
[02:25] <timhaughton> I've installed the latest version of Mono from the Linux x86 installer on the Mono website. I'm finding that eh only way to launch things like MonoDevelop is to do so from the command line. It comes with *.Desktop files but I can't seem to launch in any other way. Anyone know what I might try?
[02:25] <andrea_> sorry deFrysk but i dont understand
[02:25] <wickedpuppy> andy, so then don't forget to get xubuntu too ... its xfce based desktop
[02:25] <Rookie> xfce is not to bad ...
[02:26] <deFrysk> andrea_, questions about edgy are in the room I just gave
[02:26] <richiefrich> wickedpuppy you try it ?
[02:26] <wickedpuppy> richiefrich, try which one ?
[02:26] <andrea_> ok, sorry lol
[02:26] <alex_ubuntu> cyzie; get automatix (http://www.getautomatix.com/) it will install almost everything you need
[02:26] <richiefrich> wickedpuppy  stage 1 ?
[02:26] <wickedpuppy> alex_ubuntu, pls do not recommend automatix
[02:26] <deFrysk> omg is it legal to advert automatix here ?
[02:27] <deFrysk> that piece of shit app
[02:27] <wickedpuppy> richiefrich, i did it one ... took me a week to compile the gaming kernel
[02:27] <wickedpuppy> LOL
[02:27] <wickedpuppy> once*
[02:27] <richiefrich> wickedpuppy  lol
[02:27] <alex_ubuntu> sorry I was passed there, what's the issue
[02:27] <wickedpuppy> alex_ubuntu, it does what it says .. install things .. thats the problem
[02:27] <andy> alright, going to test kde...
[02:27] <elkbuntu> deFrysk, watch the language
[02:28] <lupine_85> "sudo apt-get install WindowsXP"  is probably safer ;)
[02:28] <richiefrich> erUSUL sent you a pm :)
[02:28] <deFrysk> elkbuntu, ?
[02:28] <joris_> Hi everybody is there a special channel for ubuntu labtop problems? I thought #ubuntu-labtop but there is activity.
[02:28] <alex_ubuntu> is this in reference to the legaliity of the codecs etc
[02:28] <[A] ndy80> deFrysk: I ran apt-get from an ssh session, so i was able to capture the output. You can read it here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/64678
[02:28] <wickedpuppy> joris_, just ask pls ..
[02:28] <elkbuntu> deFrysk, automatix is not welcome here, nor is foul language
[02:28] <deFrysk> ?
 that piece of <censored> app
[02:29] <wickedpuppy> alex_ubuntu, no .. when you got problem we will have to track down what you have installed and so on .. and all you can sasy will be .. "automatix" which doesnt help us
[02:29] <deFrysk> elkbuntu, well well
[02:29] <cyzie> ok alex_ubuntu
[02:29] <alex_ubuntu> now I'm understanding a bit more...
[02:29] <wickedpuppy> elkbuntu, deFrysk relax pls ... no need to be tense :P
[02:30] <joris_> wickedpuppy For some reason my wireless stopped working. I tried all the troubleshooting... but no succes
[02:30] <wickedpuppy> joris_, thats for the info but how does one help you with that info ? :P kindly give us the hardware name and so on pls
[02:31] <joris_> acer aspire 5612
[02:31] <wickedpuppy> thats notebook ? what about the wireless card ?
[02:31] <deFrysk> wickedpuppy, not tense  but who is elkbuntu ?
[02:31] <joris_> The wireless finds networks just can't connect
[02:32] <wickedpuppy> deFrysk, no idea .. but i suppose he got a point .. but then i also understand shi* may not be vulgar on the irc
[02:32] <joris_> there is a wireless card 802.11 a/b/g
[02:32] <kyja> joris_, iwlist eth1 scanning
[02:33] <deFrysk> ??coc
[02:33] <elkbuntu> wickedpuppy, a. ubuntu member, b. she, c. bad language is not family friendly
[02:33] <deFrysk> ?coc
[02:33] <elkbuntu> !coc
[02:33] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[02:33] <deFrysk> ah!
[02:33] <joris_> gives me this: eth1      Scan completed :
[02:33] <joris_>           Cell 01 - Address: 00:18:39:BB:F3:A8
[02:33] <joris_>                     ESSID:"cross"
[02:33] <joris_>                     Protocol:IEEE 802.11bg
[02:33] <joris_>                     Mode:Master
[02:33] <deFrysk> thank you elk
[02:33] <joris_>                     Channel:11
[02:33] <joris_>                     Encryption key:on
[02:33] <joris_>                     Bit Rates:54 Mb/s
[02:33] <joris_>                     Extra: Rates (Mb/s): 1 2 5.5 6 9 11 12 18 24 36 48 54
[02:34] <deFrysk> ah a flooder
[02:34] <joris_>                     Quality=35/100  Signal level=-88 dBm  Noise level=-88 dBm
[02:34] <joris_>                     IE: WPA Version 1
[02:34] <joris_>                         Group Cipher : TKIP
[02:34] <joris_>                         Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP
[02:34] <joris_>                         Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
[02:34] <deFrysk> errrr
[02:34] <joris_>                     Extra: Last beacon: 4836ms ago
[02:34] <elias_> If I have my grub in MBR and the boot dir on my ROOT (root1) partition, but I have another ROOT (root2) with its on boot dir, can I make grub MBR start a grub instance written to root2?
[02:34] <deFrysk> flooder
[02:34] <elkbuntu> !paste
[02:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:34] <elkbuntu> joris_, please never do that again
[02:35] <kyja> yeah, use pastebin.
[02:35] <joris_> oops oh sorry not so used to irc...
[02:35] <wickedpuppy> so how andy ? in kde ?
[02:35] <elkbuntu> joris_, thats fine. just remember to avoid doing it again
[02:35] <deFrysk> joris_, you are dutch why not try #ubuntu-nl ?
[02:36] <joris_> yes i'm dutch i can switch
[02:36] <deFrysk> sure
[02:36] <andy> I just installed KDE and when I tried to log into KDE I got an error and it logged me out.  I also tried a couple of the programs that came with kde (In gnome) and it gave me the error: DCOP Communications error
[02:36] <deFrysk>  /j #ubuntu-nl
[02:36] <elkbuntu> deFrysk, there's more people here ;)
[02:36] <wickedpuppy> andy, did you install kubuntu-desktop cleanly ?
[02:36] <andy> As far as I know
[02:36] <deFrysk> elkbuntu, someimes its easyer to ask for help in dutch ;)
[02:37] <andy> I entered: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:37] <elkbuntu> deFrysk, to ask, sure. not always to receive answers ;)
[02:37] <deFrysk> elkbuntu, howso ?
[02:37] <wickedpuppy> andy, then i ended without any errors ?
[02:37] <joris_> i can manage in english well, if i only could manage my wireless...
[02:37] <elkbuntu> deFrysk, more people = more potential answerers
[02:38] <andy> yep
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> andy, then you log out and log in ? hmms ... have youy rebooted though ?
[02:38] <andy> nno
[02:38] <andy> was I supposed to?
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> andy, would you mind rebooting once ?
[02:38] <xav> you shouldn't need to
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> yah
[02:38] <andy> ok, Ill be back soon
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> but see if it solves ya problem
[02:39] <xav> but well, I'm clueless to what the problem is so..
[02:39] <nickspoon> can anyone here get at cvs.transgaming.org? it keeps timing out here.
[02:39] <wickedpuppy> xav, i learnt that "pls reboot ..." trick from helping windows users .. LOL
[02:39] <savvas> I run rhythmbox and try to import my mp3 files (read-only ntfs partition), but it doesn't detect most of them, what do you think is the problem?
[02:40] <wickedpuppy> you got no mp3 codec ?
[02:40] <savvas> well how come i play some of them wickedpuppy?
[02:40] <alex_ubuntu> nickspoon; http://transgaming.org/cvs/
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> savvas, no idea ... well first check if the partition is mounted properly .. then check the files permissions ...
[02:41] <PPAAUULL> How can I change my display depth to 24 bit?
[02:41] <deFrysk> savvas,  apt-cache search mp3 | grep gstreamer
[02:42] <xav> PPAAUULL, in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:42] <nickspoon> alex_ubuntu: I still need cvs.transgaming.org to actually check out stuff.
[02:42] <xav> or maybe dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg allow to do that?
[02:42] <PPAAUULL> How do I know if it will crash my display
[02:42] <xav> (that still edits xorg.conf)
[02:42] <savvas> i'll try that in a while deFrysk, thanks, I'm currently downloading something else
[02:42] <xav> PPAAUULL, try it, and you will know
[02:42] <andy> No dice, I still get the error
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> PPAAUULL, save a copy first
[02:42] <papa> bonjour
[02:42] <PPAAUULL> Ya but what happens if my display crashes?
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> so in case it has error replace back
[02:43] <papa> by
[02:43] <andy> it says, when I log in, can't start kstartupconfig
[02:43] <PPAAUULL> Ok so I save a copy and it crashes what do I do then?
[02:43] <xav> PPAAUULL, you use a tty
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> andy, now thats funny ... no idea there
[02:43] <tabm0de> any one that has the same problem as me? i cant seam to use  in vi/nano/irssi when using ssh prorgam from windows the the box, but localy it works
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> PPAAUULL, you replace the new with the back-up xorg.conf ?
[02:43] <andy> is there any way to remove kde and all of its programs?
[02:43] <PPAAUULL> How?
[02:43] <xav> andy, using dapper?
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> PPAAUULL, you know how to do ls and mv and so on ?
[02:43] <andy> yep
[02:44] <PPAAUULL> Ya
[02:44] <PPAAUULL> ok
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> then mv back-up.xorg.conf xorg.conf ?
[02:44] <alex_ubuntu> nickspoon; a brief under construction flashed then I was redirecter to the previous site I sent
[02:44] <PPAAUULL> xav what is a tty?
[02:44] <xav> andy, I don't think so
[02:44] <alex_ubuntu> nickspoon; a brief under construction flashed then I was redirecter to the previous site I sent
[02:44] <Daynah> PPAAUULL, that's a similar way I yell my boyfriend's name when I think I've lost him in the store.
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> PacketScan, terminal ...
[02:44] <andy> ok, maybe it will update and be fixed.. lol
[02:45] <alex_ubuntu> oops
[02:45] <PPAAUULL> oh ok
[02:45] <PPAAUULL> thanks for the help
[02:45] <nickspoon> alex_ubuntu: doesn't matter, I'll get an old version from SF.net.
[02:45] <xav> PPAAUULL, it's what you'll see if xorg fails to start
[02:45] <alex_ubuntu> good luck..
[02:45] <andy> also, when I shutdown and boot up, it now say kubuntu and is blue.  Can I change this back to the orange ubuntu?
[02:46] <xav> andy, remove the kubuntu usplash theme
[02:46] <nickspoon> alex_ubuntu: disregard that, there's nothing there :)
[02:46] <andy> xav, how?
[02:46] <Daynah> I'd like to change my video driver from ati back to vesa but I have two driver sections in the xorg thing...
[02:46] <xav> andy, there is maybe a way to choose it
[02:47] <Daynah> I'm not sure which one to change
[02:47] <xav> andy, does sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork work?
[02:47] <andy> Ill try
[02:47] <nickspoon> gah, I can't even ping cvs.transgaming.com!
[02:48] <marianet> hello
[02:48] <wickedpuppy> andy or system -> preference -> themes
[02:48] <tabm0de> where does the eth0 settings get stored at?
[02:48] <wickedpuppy> andy, btw you mean login window ?
[02:48] <xav> wickedpuppy, hm no, that's not the same theme
[02:48] <marianet> hello, does anybody can tell me how to set up ip fordwaring in an dhcp conextion to use amsn??
[02:48] <andy> no
[02:48] <wickedpuppy> oh okie
[02:48] <xav> tabm0de, /etc/network/interfaces maybe
[02:48] <andy> when I actuall reboot, it has the progression bar
[02:49] <xav> andy, yes that s usplash
[02:49] <andy> the termminal said that there were no alternatives
[02:50] <xav> andy, do you have ubuntu-desktop installed?
[02:50] <andy> gnome? I am using it now
[02:50] <phiber> yo
[02:50] <phiber> sup
[02:50] <phiber> was wondering if anyone here has beryl ?
[02:50] <wickedpuppy> !beryl
[02:50] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[02:50] <Daynah> When I change from ATI back to Vesa, do I change the "driver" in BOTH of the "Device" sections? And what do I do to the rest of the sections (Identifier, for example, that says stuff about ATI)
[02:50] <phiber> i have compiz atm, tried to install beryl tho dunno if it works with this 64bit
[02:51] <phiber> cos it died: |
[02:51] <xav> andy, try sudo update-initramfs -u
[02:51] <wickedpuppy> Daynah, i never use ati before so i can't help .. but if there isn't  lot to change then i suggest you back up and change one by one ...
[02:51] <Daynah> Wickedpuppy, if it doesn't work, how would I change it back?
[02:51] <xav> Daynah, you can just edit the Driver
[02:52] <xav> Daynah, why do you have several ones?
[02:52] <andy> ok I did it with no errors
[02:52] <Daynah> I don't know
[02:52] <Daynah> I didn't make the fine :)
[02:52] <Daynah> file*
[02:52] <xav> andy, what does "dpkg -l |grep splash" show ?
[02:52] <wickedpuppy> Daynah, can help us ? can complain ati about this ?
[02:53] <wickedpuppy> more people complain they will know linux has some of the desktop market
[02:53] <andy> it shows kubuntu
[02:53] <Daynah> wickedpuppy, I've complained that linux needs better drivers
[02:53] <boink> complain?
[02:53] <xav> andy, only ?
[02:53] <phiber> yo where can i check the pc stats for tempreture
[02:53] <Daynah> Wickedpuppy, I'm switching because I think the ati driver is making my computer freeze..
[02:53] <boink> the problem with drivers for linux is that companies don't want to cooperate
[02:53] <xav> andy, it doesnt show the ubuntu usplash theme?
[02:53] <andy> xav, yeah
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> Daynah, eh complain to ati ... linux has no drivers if you think about it .. since drivers are supposed to come from the companies
[02:54] <xav> andy, install ubuntu-desktop then
[02:54] <Hexidigital> anyone know how to revert TvTime settings to default?
[02:54] <boink> the drivers shouldn't come from the companies
[02:54] <Daynah> wickedpuppy, that's who I did complain to..
[02:54] <andy> xav, reinstall it?
[02:54] <troughton> can anyone help i am having tubble with my wifi when i do iwconfig it says access point invalid
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> Daynah, thanks
[02:55] <boink> atheros has been quite helpful with giving driver specs to open source development
[02:55] <Daynah> boink, my card was free so...
[02:55] <andy> xav, I am already running gnome, so will it damage anything?
[02:55] <boink> Daynah: which chip does it use?
[02:55] <thinkl> Hmm -- the time field doesn't seem to be helping,but I do seem to have the culprit now... apt-index-watch... I'll take that question ubuntu-ward
[02:56] <American-Tech> Do you have windows installed to run wine? I assume that you do.
[02:56] <thinkl> (apologies--mixing my channels up -- making no sense)
[02:56] <troughton> can anyone help i am having tubble with my wifi when i do iwconfig it says access point invalid any ideas ??
[02:56] <Daynah> boink, some intel. Honestly, you'd think if I built it I'd remember but it was like four years ago and I've built two more since so...
[02:57] <boink> that's still the thing with any OS using Linux, you need to know these things
[02:57] <mormoloc> when i try to install remove packages with synactic I get error package broken?
[02:57] <xav> andy, no it won't
[02:57] <boink> esp. with the wireless
[02:57] <Daynah> Hey! I see pictures on my monitor and they look like crap! It worked! Thanks guys :)
[02:57] <mormoloc> what should i do?
[02:57] <xav> andy, but I don't have dapper, so it's harder to help, I can't look at the packages available and their deps
[02:57] <Daynah> mormoloc, are you connected to the internet at the time?
[02:57] <mormoloc> yep
[02:57] <andy> xav, it sayed I have the newest version so it didnt go any further
[02:58] <Daynah> mormoloc, not to insult your intelligence but... you never know who you're talking to on the internet :)
[02:58] <dixon2> tvtime question: use synaptic- select tvitime choose completely remove, then apply, then choose install- this will bring up tvtime config
[02:58] <mormoloc> Daynah: :)
[02:59] <binatice> Hello everyone
[02:59] <Hexidigital> dixon2: thanks :)
[02:59] <mormoloc> Daynah: my source.list files is meessed up
[02:59] <Daynah> mormoloc, have you tried checking if your repos are right http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Repositories
[02:59] <mormoloc> i think
[02:59] <darich> hey all
[02:59] <Hexidigital> dixon2: re: tvtime question :)
[02:59] <darich> I have a problem....
[02:59] <xav> andy, try ls -l /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so
[02:59] <darich> well a niggle really
[02:59] <troughton> can anyone help i am having tubble with my wifi when i do iwconfig it says access point invalid any ideas ??
[02:59] <darich> when I boot up my laptop(with wifi radar)
[03:00] <darich> I have to manually connect thru Wifi Radar to get an ip
[03:00] <Daynah> mormoloc, there you go! That's the basic set of them right there. Don't add anymore if they're messed up. If you think you have one you want to add, just for trouble shooting, take out and put it in a txt file and add them back one at a time.
[03:00] <darich> it doesn't happen automaically
[03:00] <darich> I have searched the forums and tried multiple fixes
[03:00] <darich> but nothing seems to work
[03:00] <thinkl> Anyone know what apt-index-watch does?
[03:00] <xav> andy, and also ls /usr/lib/usplash/*.so
[03:00] <darich> it booted fine on my previous install of Dapper
[03:00] <xav> thinkl, man page does
[03:00] <darich> any suggestions are welcome
[03:01] <thinkl> xav: not exactly, but man apt-index-watcher does :)
[03:01] <Daynah> troughton, I like your name. Ever watch doctor who? I've never used that wifi program, I'm sorry. I'm spoiled, what came with ubuntu worked for me... once I figured out how to work it. Give and take. Instead of typing the short "nickname" of the access point, I had to type in the long hex thing. Have you tried that? (again I've NEVER used the program, these are just things I tried on a different program)
[03:01] <binatice> I am having problems with double tabs opening in Firefox when I click on a link, has anyone else had this problem?
[03:01] <mormoloc> Daynah: i think there are some wrong compiled dependacies by me
[03:02] <andy> xav, ok I did both
[03:02] <mormoloc> that is another problem plus the source.list mess
[03:02] <Daynah> mormoloc, the word "complied" is beyond me. It isn't in my vocab yet. Really, try just making a new source list
[03:02] <mumbles> any wine useres here ?
[03:02] <troughton> Daynah my nickname is a take off of the second doctor as i am a big fan and i have hex turned off my wifi on my ruter is set open
[03:02] <xav> andy, I need to know what it shows
[03:03] <LjL> !anyone
[03:03] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:03] <mormoloc> Daynah: compiled :P
[03:03] <andy> xav, for the first one it shows: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 2006-10-08 08:25 /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so -> /usr/lib/usplash/kubuntu-splash.so
[03:03] <binatice> Any suggestions?
[03:04] <andy> xav, for the second it shows: /usr/lib/usplash/kubuntu-splash.so   /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-default.so /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so
[03:04] <Daynah> troughton, w00t! I didn't want to say something too geeky about the doctor first off incase, I dunno, youre name happened to be troughton. you say you have "hex turned off" try just it. Sometimes you have to try dumb stuff and go, "Hey that was a waste of 2 seconds. OH WELL" I couldn't get wifi in my house for 8 months before I broke down and wrote down the hex and tried it. And boy did I feel dumb
[03:05] <troughton> ok i will try that
[03:05] <xav> andy, so sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork should give you the choice between these
[03:05] <Daynah> binatice, I don't know... I just checked firefox pref and there is a "tabs" part. I didn't see anything related though. Gimmie a sec.
[03:05] <binatice> Thanks Daynah
[03:06] <andy> xav, it ssays, no alternatives
[03:06] <jrib> xav, andy: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[03:06] <jrib> andy: you'll have to run 'sudo update-initramfs -u' after changing that
[03:06] <Daynah> binatice, are you clicking with your middle button? Is your left click actually a middle click because linux has your mouse configed a bit weird?
[03:06] <troughton> Daynah i dont mind looking geeky i am a geek computer and sifi
[03:06] <MukiEX> I'm trying to compile ffmpeg from latest source. Compiles fine, and I make a deb using checkinstall , but another program gives me a version error (apt-get -f uninstalls it); is there a way to disable that? Also, how do I install (using checkinstall/deb) the source, so that I can compile other programs that use it?
[03:07] <Daynah> binatice, http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=2495404&sid=25be3cdb617582269579e59d384ea6b1
[03:07] <binatice> Daynah, That might be it because I am also auto-copy and pasting with the left button... How would I go about fixing that?
[03:07] <Daynah> troughton, I have a tardis usb hub.
[03:07] <LjL> MukiEX: it may be hard to fix it. please pastebin the output from dpkg... and about installing the source, not with checkinstall i'm afraid
[03:08] <andy> ok, thanks I guys, I have things I must attend to now
[03:08] <troughton> cool i want one
[03:08] <MukiEX> awww.
[03:08] <xav> MukiEX, you may need to rebuild some packages against your new ffmpeg
[03:08] <MukiEX> I'm just trying to get the latest ffmpeg 'n vlc installed ^_^; I don't suppose there's ubuntu dapper nightlies, is there?
[03:09] <Daynah> binative, in that forum it was someone on windows (or that would have menchioned linux) so it's probably not that. Most programs wont register a middle click. So either you're accidently hitting it or like they say in that forum, your mouse is getting worn down. What do you think?
[03:09] <bryan> Hey, I'm having a hard time installing ndisgtk and ndiswrapper...can anyone tell me how to get snyaptic to install the two (first time ubuntu user)
[03:09] <MukiEX> (videolan's nightlies haven't been updated in months)
[03:09] <LjL> MukiEX: no, every version of ubuntu is frozen (i.e. no new packages) after release. there is the development version, Edgy, which will be released sometime this month
[03:09] <bryan> I've tried the forum and its not helping
[03:09] <macaco> Hello...
[03:09] <Daynah> hello!
[03:09] <macaco> I installed firebird2 on a ubuntu server
[03:09] <macaco> firebird2 classic server
[03:09] <lazzareth> How do I disable the sudo command for specific users on this computer? Im making a 'guest' ssh user for myself but i dont want anyone to get hold of the password then -> bam Got Root!
[03:10] <LjL> MukiEX: so basically, you're trying to compile VLC, but you need the latests ffmpeg includes for it to compile?
[03:10] <MukiEX> LjL : Well, non-official, I mean ^_^
[03:10] <macaco> everything has gone smoothly BUT I can't get it started correctly
[03:10] <mumbles> ok - question is - im trying to install wine - and wt tools says theres a dependensie that isent being shared
[03:10] <binatice> I think it's something with the mouse, unless the auto-copy and paste is normal in linux/ubuntu
[03:10] <macsim> I have a  usb 3-3: device not accepting address 26, error -32, what's the pb ?
[03:10] <MukiEX> LjL : Yup, but let me paste (not here) the ./configure error just so you know what I'm talking about ^_^
[03:10] <LjL> MukiEX: sure
[03:11] <macaco> !firebir2
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firebir2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <macaco> !firebird2
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firebird2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <boink> you mean firefox2 ?
[03:11] <macaco> firebird2 the database
[03:11] <bryan> how come when I use "make" command it tells me no such command?
[03:11] <boink> ok
[03:11] <Daynah> macaco, cool! just to let you know, most people here use a desktop, so be patient to wait on your answer. There may be absolutely no one who knows at all!  But the  "tougher" your question is, the more patient you'll need to be to wait for that ellusive person who knows the answer.
[03:11] <Daynah> Boink, he's talking on a server
[03:11] <boink> bryan: apt-get install build-essential
[03:11] <jpjacobs> brynan,  install build-essentiial before trying to compile stuff
[03:11] <boink> !build-essential
[03:11] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:12] <macaco> and I'm receiving the following errors
[03:12] <macaco> operating system directive open failed
[03:12] <macaco> no such file or directory
[03:13] <macaco> and...  unable to open database
[03:14] <bryan> It asked me if I am root, I said yes AND  it just displayed a bunch of "y"s
[03:14] <macaco> that happens once i try to do this: gsec -user sysdba -password *****
[03:14] <Daynah> Macaco, have you tried posting this on the ubuntu forums? It will get more exposure and there's a whole section right here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=45 for servers where people who know servers will know what you're talking about. Most people who use ubuntu are desktop users, and we're just users helping out here, so we're on desktops and that's all we know! Try out there and you'll be surrounded by server people
[03:15] <macaco> :S
[03:15] <mormoloc> Daynah: get this message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25971/
[03:15] <macaco> is there any channel for servers?
[03:15] <superkirbyartist> I am wondering if Mac version of Ubuntu supports only 1 button.
[03:15] <tabm0de> how do i change locales to ISO-8859-1 ?
[03:15] <superkirbyartist> 1 mouse button, that is.  Or do I need 2?
[03:16] <binatice> Daynah, yeah it's the mouse. When I use the touchpad on the laptop it works fine but when I use my usb mouse it goes screwy.
[03:16] <Daynah> macaco, I'm not sure, sweetheart. I don't have a server, so I wouldn't have wanted to go there.
[03:16] <superkirbyartist> For Mac.
[03:16] <Daynah> binatice, GReat!
[03:16] <Shinku>  I just spent the last twenty minutes rubbing a twelve year old girl's bare chest.
[03:16] <Daynah> Mormoloc, then run apt-get! sudo apt-get ....install?
[03:16] <Shinku> shit
[03:16] <Shinku> wrong channel
[03:17] <binatice> Daynah, now the question is how to get the usb mouse working?
[03:17] <Daynah> mormolic, yeah, I guess try sudo apt-get install
[03:17] <printk> !locale > tabm0de
[03:18] <Daynah> binatice, well... my mouse wore down and I bought a new one. Sometimes stuff that you roll and roll and roll and rub and rub and slam and wiggle just... wears down. Sorry to burst your bubble. I had a bad day my mouse died, too. I loved that mouse.
[03:18] <Daynah> mormoloc, actually that was the dumbest thing I've ever said. I don't know what apt-get commandit wants you to do. Ask someone else. You've reached my knowledge threshold
[03:19] <macaco> I found the answer on  the ubuntu forums... thank you daynah
[03:19] <Daynah> binatice, but when you get a new mouse PLEASE research it. I got this awesome logitech media mouse, it has like every button in the world... and there's no linux drivers for it. There's a way, if I'm hard core, that I can get half the buttons working. But I'm not hard core. So... I paid like $50 for a basic wireless mouse.
[03:19] <Daynah> Macaco, great! The forums are a good resource. :) I love em! Hope you get it solved
[03:20] <|thunder> mormoloc; you need verification keys from freecontrib
[03:20] <binatice> Daynah, it's a relatively new mouse. I think it a driver problem. Can you help me fix, I am new to linux, as I am sure you noticed.
[03:20] <he-man> I received an update via the updater for ubuntu edgy and now it doesn't work because the software index is damaged. Can help, please?
[03:20] <Zaggynl> linuxdc++ should be put in the universal repository imho
[03:20] <|thunder> Daynah; you just need to add some lines to xorg.conf to get more buttons working
[03:21] <Daynah> binatice, probably not. :( Again, I couldn't install my mouse's drivers (but mine were hard core) some mice have easy drivers. Remember the name?
[03:21] <he-man> I did a sudo apt-get install -f but no way to correct it
[03:21] <humbolt> how can I find non-dapper packages in synaptic again, so I can deinstall them before upgrade to edgy?
[03:21] <binatice> logitech notebook optical mouse plus +
[03:21] <Daynah> |thunder, really? I looked it up after only using ubuntu for like 4 months, so maybe it wont look so scary now (in a week it'll be a year! w00t!) I think I had to compile something though. And compiling scares me.
[03:22] <rever> Hi I have been running Dapper and have been considering moving to Edgie. For you who have made the move have you noticed and differences in performace?
[03:22] <Daynah> binatice, try searching for "_____ ubuntu" on google or searching for that in the ubuntu forums. See what other people have done with it :)
[03:22] <|thunder> Daynah; nay, search ubuntu.com for instructions on getting a microsoft usb mouse working with added buttons. should be the same.
[03:23] <Daynah> binatice, I'm sure a lot of people have that mouse also and if there's anything weird about it, SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE whined.
[03:23] <boink> rever: edgie hasn't yet been released
[03:23] <humbolt> somebody one told me how to find those packages but I can't find the option in synaptic anymore!
[03:23] <he-man> could anyone help me correct this error? software index damaged in ubuntu edgy. I did sudo apt-get install -f but no way, it doesn't work at all
[03:23] <|thunder> its beta
[03:23] <Daynah> |thunder, rock! I'll try it again :) , see binatice, I only LOOK like I know what I'm doing
[03:23] <boink> it should be released at the end of this month
[03:24] <|thunder> he-man; there is a flag to rebuild the apt-cache. cant remember what it is .  try looking in 'man apt-cache'
[03:24] <rever> boink, I know this but you can upgrade and help with bug reports and stuff. I did this with Dapper. I was just asking what people felt of the performance. I felt performance was better with Dapper of Hoary.
[03:25] <he-man> thunder: thanks
[03:25] <Daynah> And I'm out! Remember peeps, if you get one question answered, try to stay so you can answer two. It's possible, people ask some pretty easy things (how to set up an email account in thunderbird?) and you'll know how to do it and help somebody's day!
[03:25] <|thunder> ima stick with dapper for a while. till edgy is less. well. edgy
[03:25] <CokeNCode> hey guys ... is the new flash for linux finally out
[03:25] <CokeNCode>  coz i was just finally able to download
[03:25] <CokeNCode> after months of tyring
[03:25] <mormoloc> got broken packages how do i fix/remove them?
[03:26] <rever> No flash 9 is still in develoment
[03:26] <rever> A beta will be out soon per the website.
[03:26] <|thunder> mormoloc; man apt-get.   i think the flag is remove
[03:26] <deFrysk> mormoloc, try sudo apt-get -f install
[03:27] <rever> mormoloc, apt-get install -f
[03:27] <rioch> what is the current supported kernel version on ubuntu?
[03:27] <mormoloc> rever: thanks
[03:27] <he-man> | thunder: And what should I do with apt-cache? Regenerate cache?
[03:27] <|thunder> he-man; yeppers
[03:27] <theplatypus> Anyway to repair a failed upgrade to dapper? The power went out and I can't reach a terminal.
[03:27] <rever> rioch, 3.6.15
[03:27] <rever> rioch, 2.6.15
[03:27] <rever> mormoloc, np
[03:28] <|thunder> Linux amd64 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 01:51:59 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:28] <mormoloc> rever: i get this error message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25974/
[03:28] <he-man> | thunder: Unfortunately, it does nothing. :'( I don't know what I could do. I googled and found nothing useful
[03:28] <macsim> join #ubuntu-fr
[03:29] <rever> mormoloc, What do you get when you do apt-get upgrade
[03:29] <mormoloc> well it ok
[03:29] <mormoloc> no error message
[03:29] <lusepuster> Hey there, got a little problem w a dist-upgrade
[03:30] <rever> mormoloc, Sounds like you have no broken packages then
[03:30] <lusepuster> that went ugly...
[03:30] <mormoloc> rever: synaptic doesnt think so
[03:31] <andy> is there a list of all the apps that are in the repositories?
[03:31] <elkbuntu> theplatypus, try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f
[03:31] <lusepuster> ...Upgraded from hoaryr to dapper and it alle went well in the end, except that EasyUbuntu and Automatix both think that I still run hoary! Where can I tewll them I don't?
[03:31] <|thunder> andy, yep. sudo synaptic
[03:31] <mormoloc> rever: i think the problem is a rpm based openoffice vers 2.0.3
[03:31] <Richard_> knoppmyth makes me go craaaaazy, hoping for a better experience with ubuntu + mythtv :)
[03:31] <theplatypus> elkbuntu: I can't use a terminal
[03:31] <bz0b> hey room
[03:31] <|thunder> Richard_; you use iTv driver ?
[03:31] <Juhaz> andy, packages.ubuntu.com?
[03:31] <theplatypus> elkbuntu: Can't as in can not access one
[03:32] <mormoloc> rever: can't delete openoffice-common and base?
[03:32] <Richard_> |thunder,  I can't even install it
[03:32] <bz0b> is it true that ubuntuguide breaks your system?
[03:32] <elkbuntu> theplatypus, ah. hmm..
[03:32] <|thunder> theplatypus; can you ctrl-alt-F6 to get a term ?
[03:32] <Richard_> can't use a usb keyboard for some reason :(
[03:32] <oskude> andy, or without ubuntu http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/
[03:32] <bz0b> like if i do a lot of the stuff on there, and use their repositories
[03:32] <bz0b> of is it okay
[03:32] <andy> ok, thanks
[03:32] <roko> hola
[03:32] <theplatypus> |thunder: didn't try f6 just f2
[03:32] <|thunder> Richard_; you need to enable an option in your cmos. i had to do the same
[03:33] <|thunder> f1 -f6
[03:33] <Richard_> what, legacy support?
[03:33] <|thunder> no
[03:33] <oskude> andy, or if you want a very very big list http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/allpackages
[03:33] <|thunder> something else, cant remember the name. but legacy was an option.
[03:33] <Dalik> how does one store login script in ldap so clients to execute on login?
[03:33] <|thunder> mine has 3 options. none, something i cant remember, and legacy.
[03:33] <Richard_> well I can hit enter and boot, but not use my arrow keys to pick the installation method
[03:34] <|thunder> Richard_; did you try legacy ?
[03:34] <Richard_> will double check while downloading dapper :P
[03:34] <zool2005> hi all, I've got an old laptop and running livecd but the screen seems to be much bigger than that I can see. I've tried changing the resolution but to no avail
[03:34] <bz0b> hey, i know the package network-manager-gnome fixes the ipw3945 to make it work
[03:34] <rever> mormoloc, Why did you install an rpm of OO?
[03:34] <lusepuster> sorry for bumping, but... Upgraded from hoaryr to dapper and it alle went well in the end, except that EasyUbuntu and Automatix both think that I still run hoary! Where can I tell them I don't?
[03:34] <bz0b> but on my lspci it still comes up as a unknown device is that cool?
[03:35] <|thunder> Richard_; make sure you download 6.06.1 not just 6.06. will save some downloads
[03:35] <mormoloc> rever: 1 month ago
[03:35] <theplatypus> brb
[03:35] <mormoloc> rever: why?
[03:35] <LjL> lusepuster: perhaps automatix is bad enough, and possibly easyubuntu as well, that installing them both is the farthest thing from a good idea that i can think of? :-P
[03:35] <rever> Yeah why did you install rpm based and not use apt?
[03:35] <|thunder> i try not to alien anything if I can help it.
[03:36] <andy> I am having problems.  Whenever I try and run a KDE app (I am under gnome) I get a DCOP Communication error.
[03:36] <bz0b> |thunder: if i change my repositories to edgy from dapper and do a apt-get dist-upgrade will that make it edgy
[03:36] <mormoloc> rever: because i couldnt find the newest vers
[03:36] <|thunder> bz0b; not sure. ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:36] <bz0b> k
[03:36] <oskude> bz0b, yes, and atleas in theory, 100% success ;)
[03:36] <lusepuster> Ljl: Know about the problems of Automatix, wanted to try EU first.  But still: It has worked painlessly on another box, it must be my dist-upgrade that somehow went ugly. Any idea?
[03:36] <boink> bz0b: sure, but remember edgy hasn't been released yet
[03:37] <mormoloc> rever: im an new vers software freak :)
[03:37] <humbolt> how can I find foreign packages in synaptic?
[03:37] <rever> mormoloc, Try aptitude install -f
[03:37] <boink> it's still beta ... beta=pain
[03:37] <|thunder> darned redhat users and their stupid current releases.   ;)
[03:37] <bz0b> boink: but i mean will it upgrade it to the bet
[03:37] <bz0b> beta*
[03:37] <boink> why?
[03:37] <boink> you like pain?
[03:37] <bz0b> oh yes
[03:37] <rever> mormoloc, OO in the repo is only off by slight version.
[03:37] <bz0b> i love pain
[03:37] <boink> ok, then update to the beta
[03:37] <bz0b> lol
[03:37] <oskude> humbolt, whats "foreign package" ?
[03:37] <boink> fix your /etc/apt/sources.list .. and update away
[03:38] <dfree-m> sudo cat $conffile | sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' > $conffile <-- What should I replace $conffile with?
[03:38] <SkramX> how can i have two different X "profiles" for when my laptop is standalone and another one for when I plug in my larger VGA LCD?
[03:38] <mormoloc> rever: i know
[03:38] <bz0b> boink: well i mean i tested dapper when 5.10 was still stablel
[03:38] <bz0b> and it wasen't thatb ad
[03:38] <boink> it shouldn't be
[03:38] <bz0b> so how bad could edgy be
[03:38] <boink> but beta stuff is mostly for testing
[03:38] <boink> heh .. you really want to find out, bz0b?
[03:38] <bz0b> well yes im going to upgrade to full when it comes
[03:39] <mormoloc> rever: think is working:)
[03:39] <bz0b> boink: i reallly have nothing of extreme worth
[03:39] <Arafangion> bz0b: The issue is when beta testers expect the same level of support as the release.
[03:39] <Samuli^> #ubuntu+1 for edgy questions.
[03:39] <mormoloc> rever: thanks
[03:39] <boink> it's a good way to learn, bz0b
[03:39] <bz0b> boink: yes true
[03:39] <|thunder> haha, this is awesome and totally off topic.
[03:39] <bz0b> lol
[03:40] <andy>  I am having problems.  Whenever I try and run a KDE app (I am under gnome) I get a DCOP Communication error.  Anyone know how to fix this?
[03:40] <bz0b> imo if its about ubuntu its on topic
[03:40] <|thunder> open a webpage with lots of pictures and paste this in the addy bar (no quotes) "javascript:R=0; x1=.1; y1=.05; x2=.25; y2=.24; x3=1.6; y3=.24; x4=300; y4=200; x5=300; y5=200; DI=document.getElementsByTagName(%22img%22); DIL=DI.length; function A(){for(i=0; i-DIL; i++){DIS=DI[ i ] .style; DIS.position='absolute'; DIS.left=(Math.sin(R*x1+i*x2+x3)*x4+x5)+%22px%22; DIS.top=(Math.cos(R*y1+i*y2+y3)*y4+y5)+%22px%22}R++}setInterval('A()',5); voi
[03:40] <|thunder> d(0);"
[03:40] <Arafangion> bz0b: While devs expect (quite rightly), that beta (and developmental) releases are not intended for "newbies" that expect everything to "just work" - it may well, but those users should not expect teh same level of suppot.
[03:41] <LjL> bz0b: hm, not really. honestly i haven't followed the discussion, but on #ubuntu you're really just supposed to talk about #ubuntu *support* -- not just anything ubuntu-related
[03:41] <Arafangion> |thunder: Why would we do that?
[03:41] <|thunder> becaues it cool. makes all the images dance around. neato to say the least.
[03:41] <|thunder> hey, i warned it was off topic. lol
[03:42] <msikma> Hey all.
[03:42] <SkramX> anyone know?
[03:42] <SkramX> how can i have two different X "profiles" for when my laptop is standalone and another one for when I plug in my larger VGA LCD?
[03:42] <Arafangion> |thunder: And here I am, making a 3D *game*...
[03:42] <bz0b> Arafangion: i don't consider myself a newbie, but im not the greatest. like i did my own lfs install, gentoo install and everything worked without anyones help
[03:42] <bz0b> Arafangion: so does that qualify me
[03:42] <Arafangion> bz0b: Then you are not a newbie. :)
[03:42] <Arafangion> bz0b: But my statements still apply.
[03:42] <msikma> Will gpart be able to erase a HFS+ partition and make it into a FAT32 partition while keeping another HFS+ partition on that same disk intact?
[03:43] <bz0b> Arafangion: ok, cool
[03:43] <T0aD> hello
[03:43] <rever> mormoloc, did you try aptitude install -f
[03:43] <oskude> msikma, you normally just delete 1 partition at the time, leaving other partitions untouched
[03:43] <JoelMax> hi
[03:43] <T0aD> Im looking for some way to install ubuntu with floppy disks, a pcmcia network card and a network connection to the internet :)
[03:43] <msikma> So I'd delete the HFS+ partition, keeping the other HFS+ partition intact, and then create a new FAT32 partition with the unformatted space?
[03:43] <JoelMax> how install ubuntu on usb pen?
[03:44] <andy>  I am having problems.  Whenever I try and run a KDE app (I am under gnome) I get a DCOP Communication error.
[03:44] <Arafangion> bz0b: Debian users has a particularly hard time with this, with so many clueless newbies trying to use debian unstable, just because it's got the latest and greatest, and then claiming that it's stable and always works well for them - when it's /not/ stable, heck, named "Sid" after the kid next door who breaks toys.
[03:44] <SkramX> how do i rerun the XOrg configurator?
[03:44] <Arafangion> LjL: At a pinch, testing is ok, imho - because testing eventually becomes stable.
[03:45] <SkramX> !fixres
[03:45] <LjL> *eventually* is probably the keyword ;)
[03:45] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:45] <oskude> msikma, extacly, but theres allways risk when playing with partitions, so allways backup first!
[03:45] <|thunder> SkramX; look in xorg.conf. it tell you there in the commets. be sure to backup.
[03:45] <dfree-m> sudo cat $conffile | sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' > $conffile <-- What should I replace $conffile with?
[03:45] <bz0b> :-)
[03:45] <bz0b> not if u leave the standard packages right?
[03:45] <Arafangion> LjL: Heh, perhaps, but Unstable is /always/ unstable.
[03:46] <|thunder> dfree-m; a .conf file prolly
[03:46] <oskude> msikma, and im not talking only about ubuntu partition tools, any, i mean on what ever os may break your partition table... but the risk is normally very very low...
[03:46] <dfree-m> |thunder yea, but just curious - what kind of .conf file ?
[03:46] <|thunder> no idea
[03:46] <rever> What is the CLI command to query if a package is installed and what version is installed?
[03:47] <boink> man apt-cache
[03:47] <boink> maybe, if that's what you need
[03:47] <oskude> rever, one way is: dpkg -l | grep packagename
[03:47] <Arafangion> rever: dpkg -l packagename
[03:47] <boink> as well .. I suppose
[03:47] <rever> oskude, Thanks
[03:47] <rever> Arafangion, Thanks
[03:47] <mumbles> !ssl
[03:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ssl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:47] <mumbles> argh
[03:47] <Arafangion> rever: Or use aptitude.
[03:49] <mumbles> how do i ssh into a ubuntu box?
[03:49] <Rookie_> ssh ip
[03:49] <mumbles> ie wht ssl do i have to do
[03:49] <Arafangion> mumbles: ssh ubunto.box
[03:49] <boink> ssh -l username ubuntu.box.com
[03:49] <xUnaBx> mumbles : from where?
[03:49] <mumbles> install
[03:49] <mumbles> even
[03:49] <boink> apt-get install ssh
[03:49] <mumbles> forgotten the program
[03:49] <Arafangion> boink: I prefer user@host convention.
[03:49] <xUnaBx> mumbles : you need to install the ssh server
[03:49] <mumbles> ah - i was going ssl
[03:49] <Arafangion> xUnaBx: Bit difficult without ssh ;)
[03:50] <xUnaBx> hah :)
[03:53] <Razor-> i just downloaded a torrent that is suppose to be avi and when i opened the folder it was a bunch of .daa files and now i cant watch it
[03:53] <J-_> does the nvidia driver for the GeForce FX 5200 work with S video in linux?
[03:54] <Homer> !flash
[03:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:55] <Razor-> what do i do in order to watch this movie if all i have are .daa files
[03:55] <oskude> Razor-, how can an avi be a folder ?
[03:55] <Drblue> hi
[03:56] <oskude> Razor-: and what is a .daa file ?
[03:56] <Drblue> how are u
[03:56] <J-_> does the nvidia driver for the GeForce FX 5200 work with S video in linux?
[03:56] <Razor-> no i got a torrent and the file in the torrent folder was suppose to be .avi format because it is a movie but when the download was finished i opened the folder and there were like 20 .daa files
[03:56] <LinuxFan06> No i opened the file in the file in die kirche.
[03:57] <oskude> Razor-: and what should "ubuntu" do about that ?
[03:57] <LinuxFan06> Wie sind gruen.
[03:58] <Razor-> I never saw that .daa file format and i wonder if it was a ubuntu file and what i should do about playing it
[03:58] <LinuxFan06> No i opened the file format and what i opened the file and there were like 20 daa files.
[03:58] <oskude> Razor-: maybe you got scammed ? i never heard about .daa file neither...
[03:58] <LinuxFan06> Ich darf nicht in the file in the file neither.
[03:59] <beasty> is there a xgl channel ?
[03:59] <LinuxFan06> Ich darf nicht in the folder was finished i opened the folder and there a xgl channel.
[03:59] <oskude> !op
[03:59] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[03:59] <LinuxFan06> Razor-? And what should "ubuntu" Do about that.
[03:59] <Hobbsee> oskude: ?
[03:59] <Seveas> oskude, ?
[04:00] <LinuxFan06> No i opened the file in die kirche gehen.
[04:00] <oskude> LinuxFan06: seems like a bot
[04:00] <LinuxFan06> Again a movie but when the file neither.
[04:00] <Hobbsee> !de
[04:00] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:00] <LinuxFan06> I don't know enough to answer you yet!
[04:00] <LinuxFan06> Razor-? Maybe you got a torrent folder and there were like a bot.
[04:00] <Seveas> definitely a bot
[04:00] <Hobbsee> ah
[04:00] <Hobbsee> indeed.
[04:00] <oskude> and bot very intelligent one :)
[04:01] <oskude>  *not
[04:01] <Seveas> that was the owner
[04:01] <mikeymike-linux_> well just so you guys know...... we got os-x running in harmony with ubuntu on the same drive
[04:01] <MikeyMike-Linux> all is well.
[04:04] <|thunder> MikeyMike-Linux; ya, its nice huh, I've got xp, osx 10.4.7 and dapper tripple booting. i freaking love it.
[04:04] <MikeyMike-Linux> |thunder, on a pc or on a mac
[04:04] <|thunder> pc
[04:04] <|thunder> amd-64
[04:04] <MikeyMike-Linux> |thunder, deadmoo image?
[04:05] <|thunder> nope, name some others. i cant remember its been so long
[04:05] <MikeyMike-Linux> |thunder, cant remember
[04:05] <MikeyMike-Linux> nice to knwo you have it working
[04:05] <MikeyMike-Linux> you use aim or anyhting?
[04:05] <MikeyMike-Linux> i have to leave but i want to keepin touch with you
[04:05] <|thunder> ya, but im always idling here
[04:05] <|thunder> always
[04:05] <MikeyMike-Linux> oh ok
[04:06] <MikeyMike-Linux> me too
[04:06] <MikeyMike-Linux> then if i have an osx question maybe you can help me sometime :D
[04:06] <|thunder> hotiso
[04:06] <|thunder> thats it
[04:06] <MikeyMike-Linux> lol
[04:06] <MikeyMike-Linux> i dont have to worry about the hackjob osx86
[04:06] <MikeyMike-Linux> :)
[04:06] <|thunder> i love it
[04:06] <MikeyMike-Linux> i suppose its neat
[04:06] <|thunder> works flawlessly
[04:06] <MikeyMike-Linux> but i have a real mac so its okay
[04:06] <MikeyMike-Linux> haha
[04:06] <MikeyMike-Linux> do you have tiger?
[04:06] <|thunder> and i didnt give steve jobs one red cent
[04:07] <|thunder> not sure. 10.4.7   latest
[04:07] <MikeyMike-Linux> thats tiger
[04:07] <|thunder> im not sure if that tiger or not.
[04:07] <boink> c'mon boys, let's stay on topic
[04:07] <MikeyMike-Linux> nice
[04:07] <|thunder> :)
[04:07] <|thunder> waiting for 10.5
[04:07] <|thunder> leopard or whatever
[04:07] <|thunder> not a mac guy
[04:07] <MikeyMike-Linux> it's vaguely on topic :) we both are running ubuntu with it :D
[04:07] <gnomefreak> |thunder: please take the mac os talk to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:08] <|thunder> i done
[04:08] <MikeyMike-Linux> |thunder, yeah leopard is going to be nice.. lets not talk about it anymore cuz they're nazi-ing :D
[04:08] <boink> it's good to hear that the g3,g4 and g5 work well on ubuntu
[04:08] <MikeyMike-Linux> heyyyyyyyy
[04:08] <MikeyMike-Linux> i stopped!
[04:08] <savvas> lol
[04:08] <sysdoc> lol
[04:08] <gnomefreak> MikeyMike-Linux: the word nazi is not allowed in here
[04:08] <Seveas> let that be a warning for the rest
[04:08] <gnomefreak> oops too late
[04:09] <savvas> serious?
[04:09] <savvas> what's wrong with that word?
[04:09] <boink> #ubuntu isn't for idle chat
[04:09] <tabm0de> how do if fix "/usr/bin/locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[04:09] <gnomefreak> savvas: it offends people
[04:09] <boink> there's #ubuntu-offtopic or something like that
[04:09] <savvas> depends on how you use it, eh
[04:09] <mumbles> .svn
[04:10] <mumbles> !svn
[04:10] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[04:10] <Seveas> savvas, ask the few million people who died in the second world war what's wrong with it - end of discussion
[04:10] <gnomefreak> savvas: not at all savvas please read the coc and the guidelines
[04:13] <|thunder> you guys killed the conversation with all that
[04:13] <Cald> hello
[04:14] <Seveas> hi
[04:14] <Seveas> |thunder, it's amazing that there are 971 people in here and none are talking 
[04:15] <savvas> chkrootkit packet says this: Checking `sniffer'... lo: not promisc and no packet sniffer sockets - eth0: PACKET SNIFFER(/sbin/dhclient3[3038] )
[04:15] <|thunder> agreed.  color me amazed
[04:15] <savvas> should i be worried? :\
[04:15] <bbrazil> savvas: no
[04:15] <|thunder> heh
[04:15] <Seveas> savvas, no, that's normal
[04:15] <savvas> ah goody
[04:16] <gnomefreak> Seveas: incomming pm i think
[04:16] <savvas> anybody cares to explain what's that dhcl 3? :P
[04:16] <Cald> when i use "mv * /foo/" dot files are not moved, how can i move all dot files of a directory plz ?
[04:16] <toxie> does anybody had some issues with freeradius and ubuntu
[04:16] <Seveas> gnomefreak, from who? You? 
[04:16] <davin> Hi guys, I need help configuring my XAMPP FTP-server, but I can't find an entry on the Ubuntu Wiki?
[04:16] <jrib> Cald: mv * .* /foo     ?
[04:16] <gnomefreak> Seveas: nope :)
[04:16] <Seveas> Cald, mv .* /foo/
[04:16] <gnomefreak> Seveas: the banned guy
[04:16] <Seveas> gnomefreak, -ops
[04:17] <Cald> it doesn't include "." and ".." if i do ".*" ?
[04:17] <jrib> Cald: I think it complains about those two but completes anyway.  Do you happen to use zsh?
[04:17] <toxie> i`ve connected freeradius with mikrotik but only one user can be connected, when the 2nd user wants to connect it gets that the user is invalid
[04:17] <Seveas> Cald, it does but mv will refuse to move . or ..
[04:17] <toxie> i know i should ask on freeradius channel, but
[04:18] <Cald> ok
[04:18] <latsnode> is there any good speech recognition software for *nix?
[04:19] <ikkie> hello i need some help with grub
[04:19] <|thunder> i JUST read an article on digg yesterday bout that latsnode
[04:19] <|thunder> cant remember the name of the two apps
[04:19] <latsnode> |thunder, linkage please?
[04:19] <|thunder> digg.com
[04:20] <ikkie> someone can help me with grub installattion on ntfs
[04:20] <theplatypus> |thunder : thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Everything seems to be in order now
[04:20] <gnomefreak> ikkie: what are you looking to do with it
[04:20] <ikkie> gnomefreak please private
[04:20] <savvas> chkrootkit runs automatically on as a cron job?
[04:20] <gnomefreak> ikkie: if i dont know the rest of channel might
[04:20] <davin> Hi guys, I need help configuring my XAMPP FTP-server, but I can't find an entry on the Ubuntu Wiki?
[04:20] <roko> pleass help me ati 9250 configurate
[04:20] <|thunder> theplatypus; ok, what did i help with , lol, i cant remember
[04:21] <ikkie> ohh yeh sorry
[04:21] <gnomefreak> but grub on ntfs doesnt say much
[04:21] <ikkie> okke my problem is im running xp and ubuntu
[04:21] <ikkie> now i install xp
[04:21] <gnomefreak> now ubuntu wont boot
[04:21] <theplatypus> |thunder: Finally found my way to a usable terminal
[04:21] <ikkie> and grub boot menu is gone from ntfs partition
[04:21] <gnomefreak> !grub
[04:21] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:21] <gnomefreak> ikkie: ^^^ please read that
[04:21] <roko> ati drive install for ubuntu 5.10
[04:21] <|thunder> theplatypus; ahh.   good  .   now I remember .
[04:22] <s1`_> hi! my ALTGR stopped working
[04:23] <s1`_> where should i start looking?
[04:23] <roko> help pleas for configurate mi ati 9250 for ubuntu
[04:23] <davin> sl`_: did you use startx from shell?
[04:24] <theplatypus> What is the start command for UT2k4?
[04:24] <dfree-m> davin I was wondering if you know anything about $conffile ?
[04:24] <davin> theplatypus: ut2004?
[04:24] <s1`_> davin, no
[04:24] <davin> dfree-m: whats that? what are you trying to do?
[04:24] <davin> sl`_: run gconf-editor, go to metacity > global keybindings, see if its there
[04:25] <theplatypus> can't remember if I installed it and can't remembeer the command
[04:25] <Seveas> !ati > roko
[04:25] <theplatypus> lol
[04:25] <davin> sl`_: if youre using gnome
[04:25] <s1`_> davin, thanks!
[04:25] <s1`_> I am
[04:25] <davin> sl`_: anytime mate :)
[04:25] <dfree-m> davin I want to make my wireless connection work under Ubuntu, my wireless connection is supported under ndiswrapper .. I've installed ndiswrapper, and I'm half way it.. It says --> sudo cat $conffile | sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' > $conffile <-- What should I replace $conffile with? (I'm stuck in this only) Please help.
[04:26] <davin> dfree-m: the configuration file of the driver? sorry ive never used ndiswrapper
[04:27] <davin> dfree-m: I have wireless at home but only for my laptops/wlan only machines, I use wired on my desktops
[04:27] <|thunder> dfree-m; thats just turning it on. try just iwup wlan0
[04:27] <davin> dfree-m: afk
[04:27] <|thunder> er, ifup wlan0 that is
[04:28] <davvs> when i press capslock or numlock in gnome i get an error saying "An error occured while loading or saving configuration information for gnome-settings-daemon. Some of your settings may not work properly". How do i get rid of it?
[04:30] <|thunder> davvs; you do not have permissions
[04:30] <|thunder> davvs; delete ~/.gnome and ~/.gnome2 while NOT logged into X
[04:31] <dfree-m> |thunder where can I find this configuration file (driver) ?
[04:31] <Milkyy> Hey, how do I make my ntfs-partition writable?
[04:31] <wickedpuppy> !fuse
[04:31] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[04:32] <davvs> |thunder, thats the entire settingsfile. i have much settings i'd like to keep
[04:32] <savvas> where's the application mail located?
[04:32] <Arafangion> Milkyy: Most people don't bother - instead using usb drives or network storage.
[04:32] <wickedpuppy> davvs, then mv them to another name
[04:32] <|thunder> davvs; well, you need to chown everything in there to yourself as root
[04:33] <Milkyy> Arafangion, yes, but I don't have any of those...
[04:33] <yell8w>  hey guys how come i ca'nt access my other ext3 partition ? 
[04:33] <nicola> we
[04:33] <wickedpuppy> Milkyy, then read what ubotu says ..
[04:33] <Arafangion> Milkyy: A spare HDD? A spare patition?
[04:33] <nicola> ciao
[04:33] <davvs> |thunder, but i dont need to leave x for that do i?
[04:33] <Arafangion> *partition
[04:33] <jrib> yell8w: have you mounted it?
[04:33] <yell8w>  i tried to mout it 
[04:33] <yell8w>  it says it can't 
[04:33] <|thunder> yes, some files might be locked.
[04:33] <jrib> yell8w: what command did you enter?
[04:33] <Milkyy> Arafangion, nope
[04:33] <wickedpuppy> yell8w, how did you mount it ?
[04:34] <Milkyy> yes, wickedpuppy
[04:34] <Arafangion> Milkyy: Most people without either use a fat32 partition, which holds stuff "shared" between the two.
[04:34] <yell8w>  well actually it was from nautilus 
[04:34] <dfree-m> is .sys the configuration file?
[04:34] <sqoon> how i get a ubuntu cd
[04:34] <Milkyy> Arafangion, okey
[04:34] <yell8w>  i right click on the volume and hit mount it 
[04:34] <wickedpuppy> sqoon, ubuntu.com ?
[04:34] <|thunder> hrm, anyone know how to chown everything in a dir recursivly ?   will 'find ~/. | chown name:name' work ?
[04:34] <jrib> yell8w: oh, use system > administration > disks instead.  If you want to make it permanent, you'll need to edit /etc/fstab
[04:34] <uter> hi @ everybody -> Question can somebody helps me with cdd2iso ? (i am too dump to install it *G*)
[04:34] <jeff_hann> chown -R
[04:34] <yipe> sqoon go to www.ubuntu.com and you can order free ones! 
[04:35] <Arafangion> Milkyy: ntfs has been a real thorny issue for a very long time, btw.
[04:35] <|thunder> uter what kind of package?
[04:35] <yell8w>  jrib:  how would i go about doing that ? 
[04:35] <jrib> !fstab
[04:35] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[04:35] <yell8w>  ok 
[04:35] <Milkyy> yeah
[04:35] <yell8w>  tx 
[04:35] <|thunder> dfree-m; you tried asking in #ndiswrapper ?
[04:35] <jrib> yell8w: you know about using sudo to edit system files?
[04:35] <amonbish> yo
[04:35] <wickedpuppy> uter, burning game iso ?
[04:35] <^punisher> sup
[04:35] <teekay_> hello
[04:35] <gh0zt> Hello
[04:35] <str47> Hi
[04:35] <uter> |thunder source code and i tried to ./configure - make but there is always an error because i dont have automake 1.6
[04:35] <yell8w>  nope 
[04:36] <jrib> ubotu: tell yell8w about sudo
[04:36] <uter> |wickedpuppy source code and i tried to ./configure - make but there is always an error because i dont have automake 1.6
[04:36] <wickedpuppy> uter, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:36] <Arafangion> uter: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:36] <Milkyy> can't I just enabled it inthe kernel?
[04:36] <Milkyy> that's much easier.
[04:36] <|thunder> :)
[04:36] <Milkyy> I believe there is such a setting there,,
[04:36] <Arafangion> Milkyy: Because a free linux version doesn't exist.
[04:36] <Milkyy> ?
[04:36] <Arafangion> Milkyy: A /safe/, /complete/ linux version doesn't exist.
[04:37] <uter> Arafangion i have the newest versions of this source
[04:37] <Arafangion> Milkyy: Rather, the rw version in the linux kernel has some rather significant restrictions on rw support.
[04:37] <Arafangion> uter: So?
[04:37] <|thunder> ok kids, play nice, daddy is going to bed,.        l8s
[04:38] <Milkyy> oh well
[04:38] <uter> Arafangion i have a img file but i want to change it into a iso file
[04:38] <javi_> hi, do you know how can I install a local package and then tell to aptitude about it is ok ?
[04:38] <Arafangion> uter: It's the same, unless the app that made it decided to do something really crazy.
[04:39] <Gabby_Hayes> Howdy
[04:39] <Arafangion> javi_: A specific local package? Just dpkg -i package.deb
[04:39] <Tru7h> I'm having problems booting up Ubuntu from my live CD.
[04:40] <javi_> but when I open aptitude, it will want remove this package because I did a --force-depends instalation
[04:40] <teekay_> confidential
[04:40] <Tru7h> It almost completely loads, but once the little button in the bottom right appears, the process seems to halt.
[04:40] <^punisher> secret
[04:40] <amonbish> out of interest
[04:40] <anon32> does anyone know how to ban an IP range in firestarter?
[04:40] <Garda> hey, does ubuntu come with proprietory display drivers?
[04:41] <anon32> Garda, no
[04:41] <Garda> so opengl doesn't work?
[04:41] <Gabby_Hayes> Garda  .. what is your display, LCD?
[04:41] <Arafangion> javi_: Why the hell did you use --force-depends?
[04:41] <Garda> sorry, i meant video card drivers
[04:41] <anon32> Garda, again, no
[04:42] <ikkie> ubuntu on intel dual  core (who knows how)
[04:42] <Gabby_Hayes> gadek  .. ok, then what kind of video card do you have?
[04:42] <javi_> why nautilus had a dependence problem, it has mark like '=' and not like '>=' ...
[04:42] <Arafangion> Tru7h: How much memory do you have?
[04:43] <sysdoc> Garda, what video card do ya have?
[04:43] <Arafangion> javi_: Are we talking distinct packages, or repos?
[04:43] <gnomefreak> javi_: is that depends your looking at gnome or ubuntu-desktop?
[04:43] <Tru7h> I actually don't know, it's been awhile since I've used this one particular computer. How much memory is required?
[04:43] <Garda> ati raedon 9600
[04:43] <|thunder-afk> 198 me tihnks
[04:43] <Tru7h> It boots up Windows XP just fine, so I don't imagine the memory's the problem.
[04:43] <Garda> the ati drivers for linux are hard to install properly
[04:44] <Arafangion> Tru7h: That's a bit on the low side for live cd's (One disadvantage of this form of installer)
[04:44] <anon32> Garda, that's covered by the free drivers... ATI's drivers are buggy and crash stuff
[04:44] <ikkie> ubuntu on intel dual  core (who knows how)
[04:44] <Arafangion> Tru7h: /try/ the xubuntu ones.
[04:44] <sysdoc> Garda, you should see the forum for a howto
[04:44] <javi_> mm i had askde on #debian because I'm on sid, but they didn't answer to me, so I probe with ubuntu channel
[04:44] <gnomefreak> javi_: im looking in apt-cache show nautilus and i dont see anything with == to it
[04:44] <Tru7h> Arafangion: I actually was thinking of doing that, I just downloaded the ISO.
[04:45] <Garda> anon32: so xgl and compiz and games like UT and quake will work with free drivers?
[04:45] <Arafangion> Tru7h: xfce uses significantly less memory.
[04:45] <MissLady> when i try to install xchat_2.6.6-0ubuntu_i386.deb with package installer nothing work... i've the status msg: Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: xchat-common... can anyone help me please ?
[04:45] <jody> hey can anyone tell me what package the "strings" utility is in?
[04:45] <gnomefreak> javi_: thats why ubuntu has depends debian doesnt and vice versa
[04:45] <dfree-m> MissLady How are you downloading it?
[04:45] <apokryphos> jody: strings? Anyhow, packages.ubuntu.com
[04:45] <jrib> jody: binutils, should get isntalled with build-essential
[04:45] <MissLady> with firefox
[04:45] <alesdoc> ho provato ma niente
[04:45] <jody> I've tried that nothing comes up
[04:45] <gnomefreak> javi_: that is something you need to ask in #debian
[04:45] <Arafangion> javi_: They were right to.
[04:45] <dfree-m> MissLady type this in terminal -> sudo apt-get install xchat
[04:45] <jody> and apt-cache search
[04:45] <dfree-m> :-)
[04:45] <Garda> jody: i think binutls
[04:46] <jody> thx
[04:46] <Arafangion> javi_: The theory is, if you know how to use Sid, then you know how to fix it yourself.
[04:46] <Garda> jody: *binutils
[04:46] <apokryphos> alesdoc: English only in here, please
[04:46] <Arafangion> javi_: Sid is called "unstable" for a reason.
[04:46] <yappo_> Hey I need help enableing the multiverse or universe repositories, because I cant install the g stream plugin for Firefox.
[04:46] <apokryphos> yappo_: please read the FAQ
[04:46] <Arafangion> javi_: Heck, the name "Sid" is chosen because that's the name of the "boy next door who breaks toys", which is very metaphorical, as sid does break.
[04:46] <jody> Garde: thx a ton!
[04:46] <MissLady> dfree-m thx a lot :) heee last question.... does it the best irc client to chat under linux ?
[04:46] <jody> err Garda
[04:47] <Garda> ahh wait, apokryphos already answered
[04:47] <javi_> or, yes it is the theory, but I had this dude, how can I tell apt system about debs packages locally installed are ok ...
[04:47] <Garda> yea jody it's spelt binutils
[04:47] <dfree-m> MissLady I like xchat :-) (It's a matter of personal choice) .. But I like it :-)
[04:47] <niki_> !mp3
[04:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:47] <MissLady> dfree-m k hehe thx
[04:47] <dfree-m> MissLady anything else ?
[04:48] <MissLady> dfree-m yes.... wich prog is compatible with msn messenger ?
[04:48] <javi_> i know, about sid means ... but sure apt can know about skip these dependence problems ..
[04:48] <MissLady> dfree-m because i've friends under msn on window
[04:48] <dfree-m> MissLady gaim , amsn :-)
[04:49] <MissLady> dfree-m thanx a lot :)
[04:49] <dfree-m> MissLady gaim is installed by defalt
[04:49] <dfree-m> default *
[04:49] <dfree-m> MissLady Gaim has icq,aim,msn,irc :-)
[04:49] <heroin> Hi can someone help me
[04:50] <heroin> some one has been trying to hack into my server
[04:50] <Rookie_> just ask the Q
[04:50] <heroin> i have 2 login attempts every 3seconds for the last day
[04:50] <heroin> Oct  7 15:20:43 drake vsftpd: (pam_unix) authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty= ruser= rhost=83.17.168.142
[04:50] <heroin> Oct  7 15:20:49 drake vsftpd: (pam_unix) check pass; user unknown
[04:50] <heroin> a lot of things like these
[04:51] <heroin> so how do i ban some one from trying to login
[04:51] <MissLady> dfree-m okay nice, i didn't know i'm new in linux world :)
[04:51] <Rookie_> thats not an hack the the server, thats an attempt to get into the ftpd
[04:51] <heroin> ROokie_ so is this a problem or not?
[04:51] <heroin> Rookie_ is this a problem or not? iam very concerned atm :)
[04:52] <Gabby_Hayes> dfree-m  .. is gaim compatible with  Yahoo IM  ?
[04:52] <Rookie_> Yes, fptd is evol - but within every ftpd you can spec. who can connect ....and if they get in they get what that user have ...
[04:52] <MissLady> dfree-m have a nice day, i'll try what you told me :)
[04:52] <Ciaus> Gabby_Hayes, Yes
[04:52] <Gabby_Hayes> thxs
[04:53] <Ciaus> annd sametime too
[04:53] <Rookie_> check your *.conf file and set the right users to have the permissions to login, set no anonymous too
[04:54] <heroin> Rookie_ how can i ban this 1 IP adress?
[04:54] <heroin> or is this within some conf file for vsftp?
[04:54] <Rookie_> you can do that within your firewall
[04:54] <Rookie_> but i would report him to his isp
[04:55] <Rookie_> send the logfile too to the isp as proof
[04:55] <Woos876> Hi. when the next version of ubuntu will be available ?
[04:55] <yell8w>  !firewall 
[04:55] <yell8w>  lol 
[04:55] <Ciaus> !topic
[04:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:55] <yell8w>  hey guys what's a good GUI for a firewall 
[04:55] <yell8w>  uhm iptables 
[04:55] <LjL> !shorewall
[04:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[04:56] <yell8w>  ok so firestarter it is then 
[04:56] <LjL> "probably"
[04:57] <Azid0> i updated to the new ati driver, from sypnatic, now the X is not loading  and im getting this message (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module requirement mismatch, 0)
[04:58] <pm> !restrictedformats
[04:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:58] <yell8w>  hhmmm so i won't have to configure programs access and such as with windows ? 
[04:58] <heroin> Rookie_ how do i ban him from my firewall iam host a very small network server with only port 21 open for FTP :S
[04:58] <aFx> http://nb.sakuragi.org/~sakuragi/desktop/Beryl.avi <---  this is desktop of Ubuntu
[04:59] <Rookie_> use iptables - use "DENY"
[04:59] <heroin> Rookie can u PM me?
[04:59] <Rookie_> nope, no time for pm too
[04:59] <Rookie_> to many channels for that
[05:00] <heroin> Rookie_ ok so how do i start my IP tables?
[05:00] <Rookie_> read more about iptables at www.iptables.org - also, see shorewall in ubuntu
[05:00] <Rookie_> !shorewall
[05:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[05:01] <Rookie_> !iptables
[05:01] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) For more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[05:02] <treora> Hola
[05:02] <valehru> Whats the best program to use that is like google desktop?  i.e. search contents of files etc?
[05:03] <CaptainMorgan> system -> find
[05:03] <linuxphotogeek> Valehru - deskbar
[05:03] <mnepton> or try Beagle
[05:04] <ompaul> treora, you got a new provider yet?
[05:04] <ompaul> woops sorry offtopic
[05:04] <heroin> Rookie_ i will read up on all this but how do i ban the ip adress of 83.17.168.142 ?
[05:04] <dyn-afk> deskbar with beagle will do valehru :)
[05:04] <spuddogg> Does anyone know if Ubuntu can handle USB 2.0?  I remember back in my Winblows days that if I had a device that was USB 2.0 and plugged it into a regular USB port, the OS would just tell me that it will not run as fast as possible.  Now, in Ubuntu, I have a USB 2.0 device, and it will not work at all, as my laptop is old and does not have USB 2.0
[05:04] <treora> what would cause a fresh install to see the local router but not beyond where other machines on the LAN can?
[05:05] <ompaul> spuddogg, usb 2 should work I have seen it work
[05:05] <Dr_Fate> anyone using the transparencies with their xgl?
[05:05] <Rookie_> heroin - you can do that by 2 ways, either in the conf file of the ftpd or by the firewall, banning within the ftpd will only ban him/her from the ftpd but to ban by the firewall will ban him from your entire system
[05:05] <spuddogg> ompaul: The thing is, my laptop does not have USB 2.0
[05:05] <treora> spuddogg - I have a usb device hooked up to it at the mo
[05:05] <spuddogg> treora: is it a USB 2.0 device?
[05:05] <yell8w>  hmmm how would i know that the firewall is running 
[05:06] <treora> yep
[05:06] <yell8w>  i don't see any thing in system monitor 
[05:06] <Azid0> i updated to the new ati propietary drivers from sypnatic, now the Xserver is not loading  and im getting this message (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module requirement mismatch, 0)
[05:06] <spuddogg> treora: does your computer advertise USB 2.0 though?  My laptop is old and it does not
[05:06] <heroin> Rookie_ how can i do the whole system?
[05:07] <heroin> Rookie_ with iptables *?
[05:07] <Rookie_> i have done that this way
[05:07] <Rookie_> $IPT -A FORWARD -s <ip_to_ban>/13 -d $INTIP -j DROP
[05:07] <treora> It was a XP box that took usb 2.0 devices and is now ubuntu
[05:08] <ompaul> spuddogg, talk to the maker of the device to ask them how to get it to drop down to talk with 1.1
[05:08] <apokryphos> a simple iptables -I INPUT -s {IPADD} -j DROP should do it
[05:09] <apokryphos> and s/-I/-D/ to drop the ban
[05:09] <Rookie_> so if you like you can do it this way right now - /path_to_iptables -A FORWARD -s 83.17.168.142 -d your_ip -j DROP
[05:09] <heroin> apokryphos ur confusing me :)
[05:09] <apokryphos> heroin: which part's confusing?
[05:10] <heroin> apokryphos iam a very VERY modest small network admin who has a TINY ftp homerun server and its being hacked
[05:10] <heroin> and i dont know my path to my IP tables
[05:10] <apokryphos> heroin: iptables is in your PATH already, you don't need to know it
[05:10] <Ampsonic> quick question, what is the command to check to see if ubuntu is finding both cores of my processor?
[05:11] <OXIj> Hallo. Any one knows GPL online action game? (not Nexuiz)
[05:11] <savvas> um does ubuntu include nvidia graphics drivers?
[05:11] <ompaul> !nvidia > savvas
[05:11] <apokryphos> savvas: please read the FAQ
[05:11] <ompaul> savvas, that is how you deal with nvidia un Ubuntu (the message from the bot)
[05:11] <savvas> danke :P
[05:12] <Rookie_> type follow line ; /sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -s 83.17.168.142 -d  82.171.74.86 -j DROP
[05:12] <Tru7h> Arafangion: Xubuntu didn't work, either. It wouldn't even boot up as far as Ubuntu did; it locks up and says "buffer I/O error on device HDD".
[05:12] <Rookie_> afk
[05:12] <heroin>  IPT -A FORWARD -s 83.17.168.142 -d 82.171.74.86 -j DROP <-- so this would ban IP 83.* from connecting to 82*
[05:12] <kishore> ubotu, restricted formats
[05:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:12] <heroin> ok thanks rookie
[05:13] <Rookie_> you ban him/her from your ssytem, he or she can still apear in your log but he can not access your server on anyway with that ip
[05:13] <Hoxzer> can I somehow make shell script to "press" buttons?
[05:13] <heroin> Rookie_ thanks. i never thought anyone was going to hack my system
[05:13] <profoX`> my gtk themes dont want to change anymore... they change some settings, but the menubar, scrollbar, buttons stay the same...
[05:14] <Ampsonic> how can I check how many cores my system is using?
[05:14] <heroin> Rookie_ and apokryphos thanks
[05:14] <gnomefreak> Hoxzer: what do you mean press buttons?
[05:15] <aris> hi people
[05:15] <Led_Zeppelin> how do I control start up processes in Ubuntu?
[05:15] <KDan> heroin: running a tiny server will not protect you from being hacked by random skiddies
[05:15] <Led_Zeppelin> Is there a tool? or is there a document on how to configure rc.d processes?
[05:15] <heroin> Kdan yah :( SAD SAD people sometimes, and i only have port 21 open
[05:16] <KDan> how do you know that? have you set up your iptables to keep only that open?
[05:16] <heroin> Kdan you know of a deamon which will email me log reports
[05:16] <jonduf> Hi, I am going through a kernel module tutorial and am having trouble compiling it. gcc complains that I do not have linux/module.h in my include directory. I checked and it is indeed not there, I search all through synaptic to find the package that might have this file and can not find it. Does anyone know what I need to apt-get?
[05:16] <aris> i'm trying to copy my files to a lan rsync server... rsync aris/ aris@192.168.1.51::/media/hda1/ doesn't work.. it says it misses a module. But i want *not* to use ssh
[05:16] <Rookie_> with nmap you can check what ports are open
[05:16] <KDan> heroin: swatch is a log monitoring tool
[05:16] <heroin> Kdan i have a hardware firewall which honly forwards port 21
[05:16] <kishore> Led_Zeppelin, install bum --startup manager
[05:16] <KDan> heroin: hw firewall or a router?
[05:16] <Led_Zeppelin> kishore: no bum in for AMD64
[05:17] <heroin> KDAn router
[05:17] <Led_Zeppelin> apt-cache search bum
[05:17] <Led_Zeppelin> shows nothing
[05:17] <Hoxzer> gnomefreak: nail requires "ctrl+D" to send a mail and I want it to send it automatically by the script
[05:17] <jokoon> Is there custom icons packs for ubuntu ? If I want to replace with silk from famfamfam.com how do I do ?
[05:17] <kishore> oh
[05:17] <kishore> enable universe repositories and try
[05:17] <gnomefreak> i dont see why not but i have never wrote a script for that
[05:17] <heroin> Kdan swatch can also email me some report and alert when multi  failed logins accour?
[05:17] <KDan> heroin: then suggest you sort your iptables so that you indeed do drop everything that's supposed to be closed, no matter if it's not supposed to come through the router
[05:17] <kishore> Led_Zeppelin, enable unvierse repositories and check ones
[05:18] <minerale> does anyone here listen to "Wait Wait Don't tell me" -- An NPR show? I know they have a podcast and it's available through itunes... but is there someway I can subscribe to the podcast in ubuntu?
[05:18] <jimbi> is there a faster pdf readerthan the default?
[05:18] <KDan> heroin: afaik swatch can do pretty much anything you want it, but it takes effort
[05:18] <heroin> Kdan i would but i will read up on this sometime
[05:18] <heroin> Kdan effort is ok my gf is playing Call Of Duty anyway :P
[05:18] <KDan> good luck :-)
[05:18] <Led_Zeppelin> kishore: okay, but these packages aren't supported by Ubuntu team
[05:18] <KDan> lol
[05:18] <yell8w>  xpdf ? 
[05:18] <kishore> Led_Zeppelin, hey.. no probs with it
[05:18] <Led_Zeppelin> kishore: ok
[05:19] <Led_Zeppelin> kishore: its there.thanks
[05:19] <heroin> Kdan i was just a bit shocked cuz i have this dutch magazine and they were talking about security tips for a root server and well who knew i was beeing tested :)
[05:19] <KDan> heroin: welcome to the endless futile arms-race
[05:19] <Tru7h> Should I get amd64 or i386?
[05:20] <jimbi> Thanks yell, possably Id better just look around
[05:20] <heroin> KDan yah :) well i just have a small FTP server dont care to much about it but i dont want network to suffer when people are downloading from it :P
[05:21] <kmasta> how do I type an "o" with an ` over it, I know in windows its just alt+162,
[05:21] <nitro89> esiste ubuntu italia?
[05:21] <nitro89> ciao a tutti
[05:21] <deFrysk> !it
[05:21] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:21] <aTypical> Are there really 974 people in here!?!  My goodness.
[05:22] <matteo81> ciao
[05:22] <matteo81> hello
[05:22] <LjL> hi
[05:22] <LjL> !it
[05:22] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:22] <GreG36> Hullo. Am I in the right channel if I have a question bout ubuntu?
[05:22] <LjL> GreG36: it says "official ubuntu support channel", so... yes :)
[05:22] <GreG36> Jus makin sure... ;)
[05:23] <Tru7h> aTypical: There is. But out of all 974, nobody can tell me whether I should download i386 or amd64. :P
[05:23] <GreG36> Alright, Ive been looking everywhere. I installed a package for adobe flash player.
[05:23] <aTypical> Tru7h, what kind of processor do you have?
[05:23] <GreG36> MY friend told me to use the Synaptic thing to install it, but it wont show up.
[05:23] <haffe> Hello. I have some troubles installing ubuntu. Grub as default seems to install to /dev/hda, however /dev/hda on my machine is a dvd-RW. Earlier on the installer asked where to install grub, but that does no longer seem to be the case. What should I do about it?
[05:24] <kmasta> GreG36, are you on an AMD64 platform?
[05:24] <GreG36> Yes.
[05:24] <Tru7h> aTypical: Intel, I forget which specifically.
[05:24] <kmasta> excellent tutorial on setting up firefox with flash ------> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435
[05:24] <heroin> Kdan i wish to submit a complaint to the ISP of the guy who was harassing my server.. he is some polish person but his ISPs website is in polish any suggestions?
[05:24] <aTypical> Tru7h, if you have an Intel processor you want the i386 download
[05:25] <Tru7h> aTypical: Thanks.
[05:25] <kmasta> GreG36, excellent tutorial on setting up firefox with flash ------> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435
[05:25] <valehru> anyone know of an uploading tool for flickr.com in ubuntu
[05:25] <GreG36> kmasta: thanks.
[05:25] <Tru7h> I can't seem to get either Ubuntu or Xubuntu onto this piece of crap, no matter what I try.
[05:25] <Micksa> okay, so for some reason my laptop has an idle hdd spindown timeout of about 5s
[05:25] <Micksa> it's too short. where should I be looking to fix that?
[05:27] <aTypical> Tru7h, what
[05:27] <jester45> could anyone please help me make a dvd from a MPG the mpg video file conforms to ntsc
[05:27] <aTypical> Tru7h, what's the problem you're having?
[05:28] <ryan__> Howdy
[05:28] <jester45> hi
[05:28] <Tru7h> I'm trying to install from a live CD. Ubuntu boots up pretty well, all the way to the desktop, but once that little button in the bottom-left corner appears, it seems to halt.
[05:28] <Tru7h> I figured there wasn't enough memory, so I tried Xubuntu... that halts in the boot process saying "buffer I/O error on device HDD".
[05:29] <Tru7h> @aTypical
[05:29] <aTypical> Hmm.  Sorry, but I've not experienced that kind of error while trying to install.
[05:29] <Tru7h> That's okay, thanks for the help. :)
[05:30] <aTypical> I'm sure someone in here will be able to help you.
[05:30] <Tru7h> Probably, but they're hiding right now. :P
[05:30] <aTypical> Yeah.
[05:31] <aTypical> :-)
[05:31] <ryan__> I wasnt even aware you could install from the live disk.
[05:31] <jimbi> I have strange problem with the hard drive, I have one file on a partition when i ask ubuntu the size of the file there is a large diffence between it's size and the space used on disk, how can i fix this?
[05:31] <krang> A'ight, I need to install WinXP on my Ubuntu box (sorry, but it has to be done), and was wondering what it is likely to do. I assume it'll break grub and put in it's own bootloader which doesn't mention linux. How would I reinstall grub after I'm done?
[05:31] <GreG36> kmasta: i jus tried to run the installer in terminal, like the instructions indicate and it gave me an error.
[05:32] <GreG36> kmasta: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
[05:32] <GreG36>        Macromedia Flash Player installer.
[05:32] <KDan> heroin: don't bother with that... it's probably not even the polish guy who's hararssing your server - probably he got hacked by the guy who's harassing your server
[05:32] <mnepton> Tru7h: try burning the CD again at no more than 4x speed
[05:32] <kmasta> GreG36, just follow the instuctions as close as you can
[05:32] <Tru7h> mnepton: I'll try that. I believe this CD worked in other computers, though I can't be sure.
[05:33] <GreG36> kmasta: they said to navigate to the directory, and i did. then it said to type the command line ./flashplayer-installer.
[05:33] <jester45> ryan__: thats why the live cd is for testing it then to install
[05:33] <minerale> does anyone here listen to "Wait Wait Don't tell me" -- An NPR show? I know they have a podcast and it's available through itunes... but is there someway I can subscribe to the podcast in ubuntu?
[05:33] <Ampsoni1> anyone here know anything about "network manager"?
[05:33] <minerale> or rather- how can I subscribe to podcasts in ubuntu
[05:33] <kmasta> GreG36, don't they also say something about ignoring the message of "wrong acrchitecture"
[05:34] <krang> !grub
[05:34] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:34] <Rookie_> !slackware
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slackware - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <GreG36> kmasta: Meh. I installed from the folder, not the package... :-P
[05:34] <Tru7h> Lazy bot. :P
[05:34] <GreG36> kmasta: I jus didnt read far enough down. Sorry.
[05:34] <Ampsoni1> what's the best way to tell if my ati graphics are working to there full potential?
[05:34] <kmasta> GreG36, go through the whole thing first
[05:35] <jimbi> ok is there a tool to fix the partition table?
[05:35] <LSD`> probably a n00b question but I don't really care at this point since I'm || this close to nuking Ubuntu, but why does sudo reject a root password I know I'm entering 100% correctly?
[05:35] <Rookie_> gparted
[05:35] <Rookie_> !gparted
[05:35] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[05:36] <Xappe> LSD`: you should use your regular password with sudo
[05:36] <LSD`> Xappe: it rejects that too
[05:37] <Micksa> what does it mean if you go "/etc/init.d/laptop-mode stop; hdparm -S 0 /dev/sda" and your hard drive still spins down all the time?
[05:37] <jimbi> Thanks rookie_, we will see
[05:37] <Xappe> LSD`: are you a member of the admin group then? I think only the first user created during installation is added to admin
[05:38] <LSD`> Xappe: there is only one other user and I'm pretty sure it was created along with the install. I'll check anyway if its in the admin group
[05:38] <Jackofalltrades> Hello
[05:38] <javi_> thanks you, finally I apt-get source nautilus and rebuild it, it works fine with dpkg -i
[05:38] <Ampsoni1> dumb question, ubuntu is gnome or KDE?
[05:38] <javi_> bye
[05:39] <archville> Hi.
[05:39] <GreG36> kmasta: Now it gives me an error saying "   subo: linux32: command not found    "
[05:39] <GreG36> sudo*
[05:39] <Jackofalltrades> How do I find what directory my VLC player is in?
[05:39] <jimbi> Amp i think it's KDE
[05:39] <josh_> hello all. is there a chat for ftp does anyone know?
[05:39] <gh0st333> test
[05:39] <josh_> or does anyone in here happen to use proftpd?
[05:40] <kmasta> GreG36, make sure you typed your command in correctly, I commonly miss the second "l" when typing "install"
[05:40] <GreG36> kmasta, I copied and pasted the command from the website you gave me. Is that a no-no?
[05:40] <StellarPrince> hi
[05:40] <josh_> Jackofalltrades: probably in /usr/bin || /usr/sbin
[05:41] <josh_> or /usr/share/bin
[05:41] <kmasta> GreG36, sometimes there are formating issues
[05:41] <StellarPrince> what is the default CPU governator?
[05:41] <GreG36> kmasta, okie.
[05:42] <LSD`> Xappe: I have no "admin" group on my system exactly, is "adm" the right group?
[05:42] <Jackofalltrades> AH ha. there it is thanks
[05:42] <josh_> np
[05:43] <Xappe> LSD`: hmm, you should have an admin group
[05:43] <Jackofalltrades> for future referance how would I search for something?
[05:43] <Ciaus> Jackofalltrades, locate works pretty weel for me
[05:43] <Ciaus> well*
[05:43] <LSD`> Xappe: cat /etc/group | grep admin only return lpadmin
[05:43] <aTypical> Jackofalltrades, slocate is also good.  ;-)
[05:43] <heroin> where is the config file for swatch
[05:44] <Xappe> LSD`: by default users that belong to the admin group is allowed to use sudo
[05:44] <LjL> heroin: i don't know, perhaps type "dpkg -L swatch" and see if you can find it.
[05:44] <heroin> ok
[05:45] <Jackofalltrades> hmm...nether did anything.
[05:45] <LSD`> Xappe: for some reason, there is no admin group on this system. It's a 6.06 LTS "Dapper Drake" system if that means anything
[05:45] <GreG36> kmasta, I dunno what I'm doing wrong, but it still keeps having errors.
[05:45] <Xappe> LSD`: i'm using both dapper and edgy, and both have the admin group. You maybe could try to add that group by booting as single user
[05:46] <kmasta> GreG36, keep messing around with it, it took me a day or two to get everything to work right, actually I still don't have things working perfectly
[05:46] <patconnexion> test
[05:46] <Xappe> LSD`: and add yourself to that group
[05:46] <minerale> is edgy eft still going to use GRUB legacy, or are they switching to grub2 ?
[05:46] <swamytk> Hi, I am new to IRC. this is my first ever IRC chat
[05:46] <LSD`> Xappe: why boot to single usewr mode? o.O
[05:47] <Xappe> LSD`: if you don't have root access
[05:47] <GreG36> kmasta, Lol. All I want to do is view videos and get rid of the plug-in messages on web sites.
[05:47] <milosevic> congrats? :P
[05:47] <kmasta> yea
[05:47] <LjL> minerale: the package description talks about "research project", "EXPERIMENTAL", and that sort of things. so not very soon, i'd assue.
[05:47] <kmasta> GreG, I can watch you-tube so I'm happy for the most part
[05:47] <LSD`> Xappe: ungimping root access was one of the first things I did ;)
[05:47] <milosevic> i can watch youtube too
[05:47] <milosevic> but spikedhumor.com always gives me problem with flash
[05:48] <Xappe> LSD`: then you don't need to boot to single user
[05:48] <weirdolino> hi. i have a problem with the ubuntu dapper desktop cd. i installed from that cd on 2 different pcs before but on my new pc it won't boot. when it gets to the point "mounting root file system" it hangs and returns: "hda: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handle on exit". my pc: pentium 4 3.2GHz, board is an asus p5gpl. can anyone help me?
[05:48] <Xappe> ;P
[05:48] <maxLF> How do you install the source package of wine?
[05:48] <milosevic> so I download the video and play it from my machine :P
[05:49] <LjL> maxLF: you *get and build it* it by typing "sudo apt-get -b source wine". then, if the compile goes well, a binary package will appear, which you can install with dpkg ("dpkg -i nameofpackage.deb")
[05:49] <LSD`> Xappe: manually adding it didn't work, what's the GID on the group supposed to be?
[05:49] <maxLF> thanks LjL
[05:49] <Xappe> LSD`: mine is admin:x:113:jon
[05:49] <LjL> maxLF: if you want to install the needed dependencies automatically, you can also type "sudo apt-get build-dep wine"
[05:49] <LSD`> Xappe: let me try that
[05:50] <heroin> i cant find the freaky swatch config file
[05:50] <maxLF> LjL: I'm trying to get World Of Warcraft to work in Linux, and it says it needs the source version of wine, and  I did what you told me to sudo apt-get -b source wine and it gave me an error
[05:51] <maxLF> max@trogdor:~$ sudo apt-get -b source wine
[05:51] <maxLF> Reading package lists... Done
[05:51] <maxLF> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:51] <maxLF> E: Unable to find a source package for wine
[05:51] <LSD`> maxLF: you following redeemans thingo?
[05:51] <maxLF> LSD`: Yeah.
[05:51] <LjL> maxLF: i suppose you don't have the relevant source repository enabled. you need the Universe source repository.
[05:51] <Xappe> LSD`: i guess you could just edit sudoers, and add your user (visudo)
[05:52] <maxLF> LjL: I have the universe and multiverse repositories
[05:52] <kmasta> !lmsensors
[05:52] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[05:52] <LjL> maxLF: anyway, i'm not sure how that will help you running WoW, since you'll just get the same wine that already comes binary packaged
[05:52] <Richard_> I'm trying to install mythtv on dapper, but I cant find any packages! :(
[05:52] <LjL> maxLF: the *source* lines for them, too?
[05:52] <LSD`> Xappe: or I could just nuke Ubuntu, which was what I was planning to do anyway ;)
[05:52] <LjL> heroin: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=swatch&version=dapper&arch=all  <-- apparently, the package only contains example config files
[05:52] <maxLF> LjL: I'm not sure I'm just using the turtorial.
[05:52] <GreG36> kmasta, Should I start at the top of that Howto and do everything exactly as he does? Or just skip to the Flash part?
[05:52] <deFrysk> maxLF, apt-get build-dep wine
[05:52] <Xappe> LSD`: well, that's your choice ;)
[05:53] <LjL> !tell maxLF about wow
[05:53] <LSD`> Xappe: also, changing the group entry for admin to gid 113 changed it so instead of prompting for a password it just returned an error saying sudo wouldn't let me run the program
[05:53] <deFrysk> maxLF, apt-get source -b wine
[05:53] <LjL> maxLF: this tutorial?
[05:53] <kmasta> do everything as he does it exactly
[05:53] <LjL> maxLF: (specifically, this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft)
[05:53] <maxLF> says its unable to find a source package for wine
[05:53] <Jackofalltrades> When I type in slocate VLC it doesnt do anything. am I missing part of the command?
[05:54] <Xappe> LSD`: and you added yourself to the group?
[05:54] <deFrysk> slocate vlc
[05:54] <LSD`> Xappe: yeah
[05:54] <deFrysk> no caps
[05:54] <LjL> maxLF: look, forget the source package thing, it won't gain you anything. it's the same wine you get by typing "sudo apt-get install wine". anyway, if it can't find the source, it just means you're missing the deb-src lines for Universe in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:54] <Jackofalltrades> ah there we go. thanks
[05:55] <deFrysk> maxLF, enable sourcepackages in your repo
[05:55] <maxLF> LjL: I'll follow the turtorial you gave me and see how it turns out
[05:55] <Xappe> LSD`: ok, then I have no clue...
[05:55] <ezebe> hi folks, can someone give me some advice on a problem i've created with grub?
[05:55] <deFrysk> creat prob with grub howto ?
[05:55] <aTypical> ezebe, yes, don't create anymore.
[05:55] <aTypical> :-)
[05:55] <mumbles> damm the forums being down
[05:55] <deFrysk> lol
[05:56] <savvas> how can i enable ident on ubuntu? :\
[05:56] <Dr_willis> savvas,  why do you need to?
[05:56] <Dr_willis> !info identd
[05:56] <ubotu> Package identd does not exist in any distro I know
[05:56] <ezebe> i removed all the linux kernel options from the menu file, in the hope that i caould remove my linux harddrive and boot into window, and now i cant get linux back...
[05:56] <Richard_> my castle for some mythtv packages
[05:56] <LjL> !find identd
[05:56] <savvas> on undernet some channels ban users that have ~ in their username
[05:56] <ubotu> Found: bidentd, gidentd, midentd, nullidentd, oidentd (and 4 others)
[05:56] <ezebe> i can't help it, problem creation seems to be my thing
[05:56] <Dr_willis> savvas,  thats rather dumb of them.
[05:57] <finalbeta> ezebe, that makes no sense. You should have fixed the windows entry, now ofcourse you can't enter linux
[05:57] <Dr_willis> apt-cache search identd   shows several
[05:57] <savvas> Dr_willis: it's not if you consider they're flooded by proxies almost daily
[05:57] <savvas> but um..
[05:57] <savvas> which one? :P
[05:57] <finalbeta> ezebe, funny, but ok. You should probably boot from the ubuntu live cd, mount the linux file system, and place back a backup from the menu.lst
[05:58] <ezebe> i was hoping i could use the command interface of grub to boot linux manually, then replace the menu file with the backup
[05:58] <Dr_willis> savvas,  pick one.. if they are using that lame method to ban people.. they deserve it.
[05:58] <Dr_willis> savvas,  pick one that lets you use random characters as your ident response. :)
[05:58] <ezebe> finalbeta: i tried that, but i couldnt get permisssions to read the filesystem
[05:58] <Dr_willis> savvas,  ive seen 4 line perl scripts that work as identd servers
[05:59] <ezebe> i'm quite a newbie (out of my depth) so i may have missed something obvious
[05:59] <LjL> Dr_willis: well, freenode is a bit annoying as well. if it doesn't get an ident response (and it can't from me, since i'm behind NAT), it just hangs for an annoyingly long time
[05:59] <savvas> hum
[05:59] <LjL> Dr_willis: (actually, for so long that a few irc clients just time out and assume they can't connect)
[05:59] <savvas> that could be useful for irssi :P
[05:59] <finalbeta> ezebe, when you boot from the live cd, create a dir in /media, and then use the partition manager to mount the thing. It worked for me.
[05:59] <Dr_willis> LjL,  ive noticed the opposite effect.. windows version of xchat has identd. and takes forever to connect.. linux xchat connects almost idmnetaly
[05:59] <Alin4lex> hello
[05:59] <Alin4lex> ROMANIA ??
[06:00] <LjL> Alin4lex: please, use lowercase
[06:00] <milosevic> ok, I'm having problems to mount an NFTS disk and the forums are down
[06:00] <Mille-> anyone could recommend a pdf editor?
[06:00] <Ciaus> is there any way to install ubuntu without having a cd palyer available?
[06:00] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[06:00] <milosevic> scribus Mille
[06:00] <agent> how does one reset all sounds (login,shutdown,etc.) to their default value?
[06:00] <ezebe> partaition manager - gparted? i just tried "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media"
[06:01] <Mille-> milosevic, thanks :-)
[06:01] <milosevic> Ciaus, thru internet
[06:01] <milosevic> or you can make it online :P
[06:01] <Ciaus> milosevic, how?
[06:01] <darkanyel> hola, existe algun programa como el dragon naturaly speaker en Ubuntu???
[06:01] <LjL> !es
[06:01] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:02] <LjL> darkanyel: no, not really anything like that. there was an IBM product, but i think it's discontinued.
[06:02] <milosevic> Ciaus, open scribus, create your document and save ir as PDF
[06:03] <Se7h> could some one help me on the webcam spca5 driver? (edgy)
[06:03] <darkanyel> thanks LjL
[06:03] <Masqy> hi all
[06:03] <pike_> agent: you could delete the .g* dirs in you home directory but that would set everything back to default..im sure in those dirs you could find something specific to delete
[06:03] <ezebe> finalbeta,thanks for the help i'll give that a try...
[06:03] <Masqy> Can someone know how to fix the cyrillic fonts in urxvt ?
[06:03] <agent> pike_: ok.... will look into it, thanks
[06:04] <milosevic> it*
[06:04] <grodius> Does anyone know of some better wireless networking programs besides ubuntu's default
[06:04] <GreG36> kmasta, Ok, I got it to install. When I reopened my browser, the forums are down so I cant view the Howto. But when I go to watch a video, it still says missing plugin.
[06:04] <Masqy> When I choose the font there as : 'xft:Bitsream Vera Sana Mono:size=10' or so, english and hebrew scripts are shown allright, russian however get scrambled... any suggestions?
[06:04] <kmasta> yea, probably not done yet
[06:05] <GreG36> Not done? huh?
[06:05] <Masqy> how can I tell which font ubuntu uses for cyrillic when it uses gnome-terminal?
[06:05] <mumbles> can someone tell me what is the problme with http://johnedmondson.pastebin.co.uk/3713
[06:05] <Ciaus> milosevic, thats doesnt make sense to me can you be a little more clear, please
[06:05] <pike_> grodius: iwconfig, ifconfig and dhclient are about all you need. its good to get familiar with connecting from command line anyway
[06:06] <nex_> hi everyone
[06:06] <kmasta> GreG, he forums are currently down for cleanup & reorganization. We will be back soon!
[06:06] <GreG36> Yea, i got that.
[06:06] <nex_> does anyone know how to change the perferred app for a type of file?
[06:06] <grodius> pike_, do i need to download dhclient?
[06:07] <milosevic> Ciaus, Open Scribus, then enter all the information you want in the file, then when finished with the file, Save it with the Save Ass... option as PDF
[06:07] <Ciaus> and what will that get me?
[06:07] <Ciaus> a pdf file....
[06:07] <pike_> grodius: nope. heres an example connecting to an open AP: iwlist ath0 scan ; iwconfig ath0 essid linksys ; dhclient ath0  and your connected
[06:07] <Ciaus> !info scibus
[06:07] <ubotu> Package scibus does not exist in any distro I know
[06:08] <Dr_willis> Scribus
[06:08] <SuperMiguel> does any one know how can i install blitz on ubuntu?
[06:08] <Dr_willis> !info scribus
[06:08] <ubotu> scribus: Open Source Desktop Publishing. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.4.1.dfsg-1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 5056 kB, installed size 15360 kB
[06:08] <nex_> Dr_willis, how do you change the perferred app of a file?
[06:08] <Darryl> Erm...how does one go about updating an application when the default on my Ubuntu distro is horribly out of date?
[06:08] <Hoxzer> !info nail
[06:08] <ubotu> nail: feature-rich BSD mail(1). In component universe, is optional. Version 11.25-1 (dapper), package size 273 kB, installed size 668 kB
[06:08] <milosevic> yes, it will give you a .pdf file
[06:08] <nex_> Dr_willis, so for example i want amarok to open mp3s, and ogg files
[06:08] <Dr_willis> nex_,  i right click and use the open with,, and i think thees a checkbox there
[06:08] <grodius> pike_, i did an apt-cache search and apaprently theres something called dhcdbd, is that what I should DL
[06:08] <nex_> Dr_willis, let me see... thx
[06:09] <Dr_willis> nex_,  i tend to use KDE however
[06:09] <pike_> grodius: no you have all the tools in ubuntu by default
[06:09] <LjL> Darryl: perhaps best choice right now is to wait until the next Ubuntu is out. should be this month
[06:09] <grodius> pike_, ooh ok
[06:09] <maxLF> hey when I open the installer for world of warcraft why is the font so god damn tiny?
[06:09] <nex_> Dr_willis, it doesn't have a check box just a list of apps
[06:09] <Ciaus> milosevic, Scribus is a page viewing utility, I want to install and OS....How do the two relate to each other?
[06:09] <nex_> Dr_willis, what's an all out good media player that plays anything from mp3-ogg?
[06:10] <Darryl> LJL, no way, I'm sticking with this
[06:10] <maxLF> hey when I open the installer for world of warcraft why is the font so god damn tiny? Is it Wines fault? How can I fix it?
[06:10] <grodius> pike_, Do you ever get the problem where if you scan it only shows the 1 network youre already connected to?
[06:10] <Dr_willis> nex_,  i tend to just use xmms. :)
[06:10] <Darryl> I had enough trouble getting it on, I'm not swapping now :P
[06:10] <nex_> Dr_willis, ok thanks
[06:10] <LjL> Darryl: actually, you should be able to just upgrade using the automatic updater
[06:11] <milosevic> jaja, sorry now i know what happen, for your question
[06:11] <LjL> Darryl: at any rate, if you want to install a newer version of something, you're a bit on your own. if there is a .deb package of it available, you can try installing it (but note that .deb files meant for Debian might break Ubuntu), or if there's only source, you can go and compile it.
[06:11] <milosevic> you can download it
[06:11] <pike_> grodius: only when i dont have my external antenna plugged into the card. you will notice with weaker signals you can iwlist ath0 scan  several times and get different results
[06:11] <milosevic> the Scribus was for Mille
[06:12] <GreG36> Thanks for your help kmasta.
[06:12] <grodius> pike_, what if u need to set a WEP password to connect
[06:12] <Ciaus> milosevic, I KNOW i can DL the file, but and I can burn it on other systems, but taht doesnt help me get the OS operational on the system without the cd palayer
[06:12] <Darryl> I don't know how to compile stuff, Gah!
[06:13] <Ciaus> darn typos.....
[06:13] <Pacoo> hi
[06:13] <SuperMiguel>  does any one know how can i install blitz on ubuntu?
[06:13] <Mille-> milosevic, hm. you cant acctually edit pdf-files with scribus? only create new ones?
[06:13] <pike_> grodius: iwconfig does that for example sudo iwconfig ath0 essid linksys key 1234556677
[06:14] <milosevic> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=74386 <- Ciaus wait for the forums to come up, this helped me
[06:14] <SuperMiguel> !blitz
[06:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about blitz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:14] <pike_> grodius: or did you mean password not encryption?
[06:14] <Ciaus> ok thx, milosevic
[06:14] <Renan_s2> SuperMiguel, what would be "blitz"?
[06:15] <Moture> Hi guys
[06:15] <SuperMiguel> Renan_s2: language like C or C++
[06:15] <LjL> !info blitz++
[06:15] <LjL> this one?
[06:15] <ubotu> Package blitz does not exist in any distro I know
[06:15] <LjL> blah
[06:15] <Pacoo> I need to restore the users on 6.10... something went wrong and I have lost the privilges on the login user
[06:15] <Dr_willis> lol
[06:15] <LjL> well, it's there anyway
[06:15] <Pacoo> could someone help me?
[06:15] <LjL> it's just ubotu doesn't like the "+" sign
[06:15] <grodius> pike_, i meant WEP encryption, but if theres a ACSII (w/e) password for the network and i type key password will it work?
[06:15] <Moture> Is Edgy beta worth upgrading too? Or should I just wait the 18 days?
[06:15] <aTypical> Hi, trappist.  How are you?  Long time no chat.  :-)
[06:15] <LjL> it's in universe
[06:15] <SuperMiguel> i just need blitz
[06:16] <Pacoo> Edgy is working quite well
[06:16] <Dr_willis> Moture,  i would say wait.. i plan onwaiting a few months. :P
[06:16] <lophyte> I just installed Dapper on an old iMac G3... I shut it down, and now it won't power back up... any suggestions?
[06:16] <Moture> Really willis?
[06:16] <Pacoo> I have it working wityh Beryl and Xgl and is quite stable
[06:16] <aTypical> Anyone here using a Tungsten with Ubuntu?
[06:16] <Dr_willis> Moture,  heh -  ive allready tested out the betas.. and had some quirks.. i will wait till they all get ironed out
[06:16] <Moture> I'd usually wait a week after the stable release, but in this case so many people love the beta, and brag of it's stability I'm almost inclined to upgrade already.
[06:17] <Moture> Oh right, if you're sure. But I'll upgrade the day after stable release. ;)
[06:17] <pike_> grodius: im not sure of the syntax for that one. man iwconfig is actually pretty decent or it might be quicker to google or look in forums
[06:17] <Dr_willis> Moture,  depends.. work machine... vs a Hobby Machine.. :)
[06:17] <aTypical> Dr_willis, so the beta still needs work?  Darn, I just downloaded the iso.
[06:17] <babo> where can I get one of those gnome themes with the see-thru nautilus windows ?
[06:17] <Moture> It's my only Ubuntu machine. So I'll be looking after it. :)
[06:17] <grodius> pike_, ok thanks
[06:17] <aTypical> babo, are you talking about compiz and xgl?
[06:17] <Dr_willis> aTypical,  i imagine  with all the new stuff.. work will be needed for the next 10 years..:P but thats how linux is.
[06:18] <aTypical> heh
[06:18] <Dr_willis> Constantaly evoloving
[06:18] <Moture> aTypical, why download the iso? If you use upgrade manager and allow beta software through it upgrades automatically
[06:18] <babo> aTypical: not sure ... maybe ...
[06:18] <aTypical> Moture, I currently run SUSE and am debating whether to switch.
[06:18] <Moture> Ah, in all honesty, I'd say yes.
[06:18] <Ciaus> aTypical, YOU GOTTA change
[06:18] <Moture> I've tried both, and Ubuntu is (in my opinion) alot nicer.
[06:18] <aTypical> Moture, SLED10 is really nice.
[06:19] <tecywiz121> Hey, I can't get the ubuntu live cd to start on an imac, G3 i think
[06:19] <Moture> IF you like the SUSE environment, and aren't ready for a huge change, try Kubuntu.
[06:19] <Ciaus> i d did suse for three months, and it never ever worked well...
[06:19] <aTypical> Moture, no, thanks.  I'm a GNOME man.
[06:19] <Moture> Good to hear. :D
[06:19] <sethk> aTypical, I've switched my suse boxes to ubuntu.
[06:19] <sethk> aTypical, suse seems (IMO) to be regressing as far a quality
[06:19] <tecywiz121> anyone?
[06:19] <Ciaus> ubuntu lives up to the motto, of it just works
[06:20] <aTypical> sethk, are you the seth who does Continuum for wine?
[06:20] <Moture> True, ciaus, but that's not always a good thing.
[06:20] <sethk> aTypical, no
[06:20] <sethk> aTypical, sorry
[06:20] <babo> aTypical: I don't think so ... I just want one of those futuristic gnome looks with the transparent windows ...
[06:20] <sethk> aTypical, I do kernel and device drivers, middleware.
[06:20] <Moture> Sometimes with Linux, I just like a challenge. With Ubuntu, there are very few challenges.
[06:20] <aTypical> sethk, that's too brainy for me.  ;-)
[06:20] <weirdolino> i don't get the ubuntu dapper desktop cd to run on my new pc. the cd is okay, installed it on other pcs before. it hangs at "mounting root file system". pc is a P4 3.2GHz and the board an asus p5gpl. does anyone have an idea?
[06:21] <lophyte> Moture: that's the point :P
[06:21] <sethk> Moture, work a bit harder, you'll find challanges.  just different ones.
[06:21] <Ciaus> suse HAS MORE CHALLENGES THAN EVEN nOVELL CAN RESOLVE
[06:21] <Ciaus>  caps lock sawry
[06:21] <Moture> weirdolino: The live CD doesn't work on every PC. Use the Alternate CD download (www.ubuntu.com)
[06:22] <tecywiz121> would that work for my problem as well?
[06:22] <sethk> weirdolino, if your goal is to run the live cd (instead of your goal being to install from it), try disabling DMA for ide drives
[06:22] <weirdolino> Moture: thx, i'm downloading the alternate installer atm. should i know anything about the required configuration?
[06:22] <sethk> tecywiz121, I don't believe there are G3 binaries, no.
[06:23] <SuperMiguel> there is any way to install blitz on ubuntu?
[06:23] <tecywiz121> sethk, well it got all the way to loading gnome display manager, then the screen turned off
[06:23] <Moture> weirdolino: Are you partitioning, or formatting? Partitioning can be a little tricky without the live CD interface, unless you know what you're doing.
[06:23] <sethk> tecywiz121, in that case, I'm wrong.
[06:23] <weirdolino> ' sethk my goal is installing ubuntu on this pc. worked fine on my laptop and my old desktop pc
[06:23] <sethk> tecywiz121, and, in that case, the text mode install will help you.
[06:23] <sethk> weirdolino, the text mode install from the alternate cd is certainly worth a try.
[06:23] <Ciaus> moture where can i locate the live cd
[06:24] <weirdolino>  Moture i don't even get to the point of partitioning. the live cd just won't boot
[06:24] <sethk> weirdolino, wait.  you said it tries to mount the root file system, didn't you?
[06:24] <weirdolino> yes sethk
[06:24] <sethk> weirdolino, then it is already booted.
[06:24] <Moture> weirdolino: I meant; do you PLAN to partition?
[06:24] <sethk> weirdolino, the text mode install is your best bet.
[06:25] <weirdolino> okay but it seems to have some problem identifying my hardware...
[06:25] <Moture> weirdolino: Yes, the alternate CD I suggested before is your best bet, as sethk said. But I'm saying IF you plan to partition, it'll be a little tricky using text based interface.
[06:25] <tecywiz121> sethk, how do you do that?  oh and would there be any noticeable improvemnt to the speed compaired to like os x 10.2?
[06:25] <Moture> weirdolino: Chances are one the OS is unpacked your hardware will be recognized.
[06:26] <sethk> Moture, I always partition that way; I hate the gui partitioner.
[06:26] <weirdolino> it returns first: "had: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handle on exit" and then "Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 357296"
[06:26] <Moture> Seriously sethk? Hm, I quite like it.
[06:26] <david_> I'm trying to connect to a folder I'm sharing using windows share on ubuntu, and when I type my password, it isn't accepted.
[06:26] <david_> how do i set the password used for samba shares?
[06:26] <kmasta> ok, when I install a package from the package manager, where does it go?
[06:27] <Moture> kmasta: Which package?
[06:27] <tecta> hmm, what'd ubuntu do to make the trash ico appear on the task bar?
[06:27] <Dyegov> I'm having problems with my resolution, it's only 640x480 or something like that and I want to encrease it, but I can't
[06:27] <kmasta> Moture sensors-applet
[06:27] <kmasta> moture, i already have lm-sensors set up
[06:27] <silvertip257> hey sethk
[06:27] <Moture> kmasta: Can you run sensors-applet from terminal?
[06:27] <vit_> hy all :)] 
[06:27] <Moture> kmasta: I assume your running Dapper?
[06:27] <weirdolino> partitioning won't be a problem. my hd is already patitioned, i just need to reformat one of them. getting ubuntu up is the problem
[06:28] <pike_> !fixres > Dyegov
[06:28] <kmasta> Moture, yea i'm running dapper, i don't know how to run sensors-applet from my terminal though
[06:28] <Moture> weirdolino: You'll do fine with the alternate CD, apart from anything it's handy to have around
[06:28] <pike_> Dyegov: take a look at that link and see if that works to fix it
[06:28] <vit_> ----------------------------   HY ALL FROM           MOLDOVA   -----------------------------
[06:28] <Moture> kmasta: Try typing "sensors-applet" in terminal, without the ""s
[06:29] <dark_soul> hello
[06:29] <kmasta> Moture, i tired, i got nothing
[06:29] <Moture> Hm.
[06:29] <vit_> felicit toti moldovenii cu ziua vinului !!!
[06:29] <kmasta> moture, I don't understand what happens to all these packages once I download and install them, it's like they go nowhere
[06:29] <Dyegov> pike, I'he tried that and it didn' work
[06:30] <dark_soul> hello! :)
[06:30] <dark_soul> xD
[06:30] <Moture> kmasta: They should go into one of the menus on the top of your screen, have a look.
[06:30] <pike_> Dyegov: what kind of vid card do you have?
[06:30] <Dyegov> nvidia GeForce
[06:30] <weirdolino> okay Moture, thx, i was about to try that anyway, once it's downloaded but there's one thing that makes me uneasy about it: when the dapper live cd didn't work i tried the breezy installer cd i still had and at the end of the installation, when it rebooted, it froze. after that i couldn't even boot my windows partition anymore and had to reinstall the whole system
[06:30] <vit_> hy :|
[06:30] <kmasta> Moture, I already looked ther
[06:30] <Rookie_> !nvidia
[06:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:31] <Moture> kmasta: If not, wait until www.ubuntuforums.org is back up, and ask there. I hate how often the forum is down.
[06:31] <pike_> Dyegov: have you installed video drivers yet for nvidia or are you using the generic one setup by default?
[06:31] <Moture> weirdolino: Good luck, mate... can you keep in touch here during installation?
[06:31] <Dyegov> pike, I'm usign the generic ones. I have not intalled anything yet
[06:31] <kmasta> Moture, ok
[06:32] <Moture> Sorry I can't help you futher :(
[06:32] <weirdolino> ' well should i get lucky with the alternate installer i can come back and tell you how it worked Moture :)
[06:32] <Ropechoborra> Is there any diference in upgrading edgy now or when its released?
[06:32] <Ropechoborra> *upgrading to edgy
[06:33] <thatGuy_> hey guys
[06:33] <thatGuy_> last night i was looking to remove gnome
[06:33] <Dyegov> pike, does what it says in this page helps me? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:33] <pike_> Dyegov: basically you have a few options 1. edit config file manually "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" 2. use the automatic setup "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg 3.follow the link ubotu mentioned and go ahead and install nvidia drivers since youll want to do that anyway eventually. might gix it for you
[06:33] <kmasta> Moture, I tried using xsensors, but that didn't work
[06:33] <thatGuy_> here is a command that should pretty much do it
[06:33] <thatGuy_> sudo aptitude purge gnome-bin gnome-desktop-data gnome-panel gnome-panel-data gnome-utils gnome-libs-data gnome-control-center nautilus libgnome32 libgnomeui32 libgnomesupport0 gnome-session libgnorba27 libglade-gnome0 gnomp3
[06:33] <pike_> Dyegov: yeah
[06:33] <thatGuy_> ::waiting to see what happens::
[06:34] <Dyegov> OK, I'll try it and be right back, thanks pike
[06:34] <pike_> Dyegov: np
[06:35] <thatGuy_> fyrestrtr, scroll up slightly
[06:36] <host`> ok, I finally have linux up and running
[06:36] <host`> and it was a lot easier than I was making
[06:36] <txoof> Any idea what package supplies Gd Graphics Toolkit?  There are quite a few packages that supply gd related things, but I'm not sure which one I need.
[06:36] <host`> ubuntu did all the work for me
[06:36] <thatGuy_> ompaul, scroll up slightly
[06:36] <host`> just about
[06:36] <weirdolino> Moture: someone advised me to run knoppix and save the output of lsmod and demsg to a file (knoppix does boot on this machine, an old one though, v. 3.6) because that would contain valuable information on how to cofigure ubuntu. what do you make of that?
[06:37] <jenda> I have trouble networking my dapper and edgy boxes. Openssh-server is installed on both, but connecting always ends up with 'no host could be found'. They are both connected to the LAN, one with DHCP and the other with static IP. The error occurs on both ends.
[06:37] <erider> do anyone have both 32bit and 64bit libraries running on there system
[06:37] <SAM_theman> how do  I get my hp deskjet 3653 to work ?
[06:37] <SAM_theman> I do
[06:37] <SAM_theman> well I have a AMD X2 3800 +
[06:37] <SAM_theman> ..thats right
[06:38] <pike_> jenda: sudo iptable -L shows input forward and output all set to accept?
[06:38] <opixus> does any one have or know of any .debs for banshee plugins
[06:38] <pike_> jenda: sudo iptables -L i mean
[06:38] <swamytk> I have my splash corrupted image - updated yesterday... it is just me or???
[06:38] <jenda> pike_: yes on the edgy...
[06:39] <Moture> What's everyone up to?
[06:39] <jenda> pike_: and on the dapper too.
[06:39] <Moture> I'm using gtkorphan to clean any unwanted apt-get dependancies
[06:39] <pike_> jenda: and your connecting by ipaddress like ssh 192.168.1.3 -l username  ?
[06:40] <jenda> pike_: I used nautilus
[06:40] <Itpbull> When i try to type "make" .. I get make: command not found .. How can i fix this?
[06:40] <p_masho> anyone know a pdf reader that shows pdf documents "in" a firefox browser, like acrobat does in Internet Explorer (mash spits)
[06:40] <Gabby_Hayes> SAM_theman  .. just got one of them built myself ... and still "twittling" with it  :-)
[06:40] <tim_> hi #ubuntu, i was wondering if someone could pastebin their GRUB entry for windows XP?
[06:40] <swamytk> do any one use Xubuntu Edgy? how is performance?
[06:40] <pike_> jenda: are you wanting ftp or a remote shell or a remote desktop?
[06:40] <SAM_theman> :p
[06:40] <jenda> pike_: remote file browsing
[06:41] <jenda> pike_: ssh fails with 'no route to host'
[06:41] <swamytk> acroread-mozilla plugin will do
[06:41] <SAM_theman> Gabby_Hayes, u a gamer or 3d artist ..because I am both :p
[06:41] <swamytk> do any one use Xubuntu Edgy? how is performance?
[06:41] <jenda> pike_: and on the other machine with 'network is unreachable'
[06:41] <ciscosurfer> anyone know of the name for the edgy channel?  #edgy is not working
[06:41] <StellarPrince> how can I see the cpu frequency???
[06:41] <Itpbull> When i try to type "make" .. I get make: command not found .. How can i fix this?
[06:42] <Gabby_Hayes> SAM_theman  .. neither, am a retired programmer, and wanted to see if I could get some 64-bit stuff written up & running
[06:42] <anon32> what would the best way to view a 300MB text file be?
[06:42] <Itpbull> StellarPrince system > administration > system monitor
[06:42] <pike_> they both have internet access and are on the same router?
[06:42] <SAM_theman> o
[06:42] <StellarPrince> in KUbuntu
[06:42] <anon32> how can I make system monitor show one graph per CPU
[06:42] <silvertip257> sethk you here still ?
[06:43] <jenda> pike_: yes
[06:43] <sethk> silvertip257, I'm in and out.  I have to finish something for a client, then I'll check back with you.
[06:43] <jenda> ciscosurfer: #ubuntu+1
[06:43] <silvertip257> ah ok sethk
[06:43] <silvertip257> sethk can we set up a pm channel ? so u can ge ahold of me ???
[06:43] <hastesaver> Itpbull, what are you trying to install?
[06:44] <loper06> morning all. does anybody have experince in adding multiple users to proftpd?
[06:44] <pike_> jenda: can you paste the output of ifconfig to a pastebin site?
[06:44] <Itpbull> hastesaver ndiswrapper .. aapparently my wireless nic needs 1.23, and synaptics got 1.25
[06:44] <sethk> silvertip257, we already have one
[06:45] <jenda> pike_: Umm... lart me :) It's a PEBKAC :)
[06:45] <hastesaver> Itpbull, have you installed the package build-essential ? You need it
[06:45] <SB|nblracer> Howdy
[06:45] <SB|nblracer> need some help
[06:45] <SB|nblracer> im using the DVD version to install Ubuntu
[06:45] <YouCeyE> hi.. kde wont start at the start up.. have to manually do /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[06:46] <jenda> pike_: cable unplugged :) You can easily not notice on 80 meters of connection between them.
[06:46] <tim_> hi #ubuntu, i was wondering if someone could pastebin their GRUB entry for windows XP?
[06:46] <SB|nblracer> when i go in the LIveCD to install, and click on install on desktop nothing happens
[06:46] <hastesaver> YouCeyE, you mean the X doesn't start at all, or do you mean that something else (gdm or xdm) starts instead of kdm?
[06:46] <loper06> tim_: grub auto detects that u have xp
[06:46] <YouCeyE> hastesaver, X wont start
[06:46] <Itpbull> hastesaver done. Installed build-essential .. now what?
[06:47] <pike_> jenda: hah :)
[06:47] <SB|nblracer> can some one highlight or PM me if that have an answere why it want intsall
[06:47] <jenda> pike_: sorry :) and thanks
[06:47] <Gavrila> is there any easy way to get gnome 2.16 on dapper?
[06:47] <nex_> anyone know how to get xgl running?
[06:47] <YouCeyE> X wont start by itself
[06:47] <hastesaver> Itpbull, make should work now. But have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs ?
[06:47] <nex_> wanna try it out
[06:48] <Itpbull> SB|nblracer right-click on it > open
[06:48] <loper06> morning all. does anybody have experince in adding multiple users to proftpd?
[06:48] <pike_> !xgl > nex_
[06:48] <Itpbull> hastesaver the link you've given me is down.
[06:48] <tim_> loper06, yea, but initially, it wouldn't boot it correctly, so i made some changes. the changes reflect the actual commands you can type into the grub shell, which i have been doing (and sucks each time i wanna boot win). However, the actual commands you type wont work in the menu.lst file.
[06:49] <tim_> loper06, so, im wondering how to correctly do it
[06:49] <hastesaver> Itpbull, it's working for me right now... let me check again
[06:49] <Itpbull> hastesaver Do I need *anyother* essential build?
[06:49] <YouCeyE> hastesaver, any help?
[06:49] <loper06> tim: well i would help u but my laptop is not w/ me now.
[06:50] <hastesaver> Itpbull, the link is working fine... try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:51] <hastesaver> YouCeyE, I don't really know... maybe you can try "dmesg" and look for errors
[06:51] <Itpbull> hastesaver In order to have ndiswrapper 1.23 installed, what Do I need .. cause, when i typed "make" ... I get "make -C driver" error .
[06:51] <hastesaver> YouCeyE, or maybe just reinstall the package :-)
[06:51] <hastesaver> Itpbull, I don't really know; sorry
[06:52] <silvertip257> would anyone be willing to help me with a GRUB install (regarding DSL) in a private channel ???
[06:52] <hastesaver> YouCeyE, BTW, I'm using KDE, and it's running gdm... did you start with a Ubuntu CD or Kubuntu one?
[06:52] <Valandil> bonjour, je cherche un serveur fr
[06:52] <hastesaver> !fr
[06:52] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:52] <SB|nblracer> any clue on why i click on install on desktop nothing happens
[06:52] <Itpbull> hastesaver Is linux-kernel-devel related with kernel-source ?
[06:53] <Valandil> merci
[06:53] <hastesaver> SB|nblracer, try double-clicking :-)
[06:53] <SB|nblracer> i did
[06:53] <loper06> SB|nblracer: try rebooting into the cd again
[06:53] <Itpbull> SB|nblracer right-click on it > open
[06:53] <SB|nblracer> i get a little circle like a bussy curser
[06:53] <SB|nblracer> and nothing happens
[06:54] <hastesaver> Itpbull, I don't think you need linux-kernel-devel
[06:54] <hastesaver> SB|nblracer, make sure the CD is fine (there is an option before you boot for checking the CD for errors, right?)
[06:54] <SB|nblracer> hastesaver i did do that
[06:54] <SB|nblracer> the DVD is fine
[06:54] <pigor> hello. how to downgrade a specific package?
[06:55] <silvertip257> would anyone be willing to help me with a GRUB install in a private channel ???
[06:55] <American-Tech> looking for help finding my driver for my wireless
[06:55] <aLPHa_LeaK>  re
[06:55] <American-Tech> I have gateway mx488
[06:55] <American-Tech> notebook
[06:55] <knixtech> is there a way to have my ubuntu-server automatically update?
[06:55] <tiny> Hi! What are available install methods for ubuntu?
[06:56] <Garbaek> tiny > apg-get :p
[06:56] <hastesaver> tiny, you want to install Ubuntu, or packages on Ubuntu?
[06:56] <LSD`> * > apt-get :P
[06:57] <b1shop>  hmm.  does tar/gzip still have that 2GB file limit?
[06:57] <Luakagon> How do I open a .lzh file?
[06:57] <hastesaver> Luakagon, what kind of a file is it? (Type "file <filename>" to find out)
[06:58] <tiny> I want to install ubuntu right now but I don't have any CD/DVD install media here. Is it possible to install it from some live disk or from another running linux system.
[06:58] <host`> so is there no root login in ubuntu?
[06:58] <tiny> Using the network install or whatever
[06:58] <host`> you have to sudo?
[06:59] <hastesaver> tiny, yes, it's possible
[06:59] <Tru7h> Is 800 Mhz enough to run Ubuntu?
[06:59] <pike_> tiny: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[06:59] <LSD`> Tru7h: I'm running it on 550
[06:59] <hastesaver> host`, yes, you have to sudo. It is possible to enable the root account, although I've never found the need to. If you really really need a root shell, you can always do "sudo -i"
[07:00] <Tru7h> Alright, then memory's not the problem.
[07:00] <LSD`> Tru7h: you want at least 256MB RAM to run it at least
[07:00] <tiny> yes pike_ ty, already surfing there as you suggested earlier ... I'll go with the knoppix method I think
[07:00] <Gavrila> hello,is there any easy way to get gnome 2.16 on dapper?
[07:00] <Tru7h> LSD`: Alright, thanks.
[07:02] <knixtech> How can I update my ubuntu-server automagically?
[07:02] <pike_> tiny: ah ubotu didnt acknowledge that he'd sent the message
[07:02] <host`> automagically
[07:02] <host`> with magic
[07:02] <knixtech> hehe
[07:03] <knixtech> like with out having to update myself?
[07:03] <Itpbull> Where is the location of the kernel build ?
[07:03] <tiny> pike_: no problem mate
[07:04] <hastesaver> knixtech, have a cron job doing "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" ? No wait, there is sure to be a better way :-)
[07:04] <knixtech> hastesaver, ty, the forums are down, thats why I am asking here
[07:05] <Itpbull> Where is the location of the kernel build ?
[07:05] <Itpbull> file
[07:06] <FaLCoN> hi again .. I forgot my root password I have just user now unfortunately dedicated has rebooted and Services has closed . How can I restart vsftpd service by a user ? Or is it possible ?
[07:06] <Ropechoborra> Is there any risks by upgrading to edgy ?? Like loosing some program configs or something like that?
[07:06] <wladston> guys, I'm running a debian server, anyone can tell me if there is an easy way to clean-install ubuntu on it ? I only have ssh access to the server.
[07:06] <knixtech> exit
[07:07] <deFrysk> Ropechoborra, there is always a risk, make sure to back up first
[07:07] <Ropechoborra> deFrysk but.. normaly it should not touch the programs config.. shouldnt it?
[07:07] <jaek> how can i make a module not load on boot
[07:08] <deFrysk> Ropechoborra, normally not
[07:08] <rambo3> !blacklist > jaek
[07:08] <whyme> hi all
[07:08] <bruenig> salut
[07:08] <jaek> !blacklist
[07:08] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add "blacklist modulename" to the end of that list
[07:08] <whyme> salut bruenig
[07:08] <Ropechoborra> deFrysk what do u say i should backup ? My home... the /etc??
[07:08] <whyme> what's up with the forums?
[07:08] <opixus> does anyone know how to remove the sub-heading from the xfce main menu
[07:09] <deFrysk> your /home
[07:09] <opixus> where in /home
[07:09] <ciphernemo> What's the channel on freenode for linux kernel questions?
[07:09] <Ropechoborra> Well i got it in other partition... so i guess it wont be a problem
[07:09] <Ramunas> hello, I have winfast 2000 XP tv tuner with remote, how do I get the remote to work?
[07:09] <raiXer> anyone knows how to fix this? Error activating XKB configuration.
[07:09] <deFrysk> Ropechoborra, egdy is not stable yet and even if it would be there is always a chance of mishaps
[07:09] <jaek> rambo3: thanks
[07:10] <Ropechoborra> Ok... i'll wait to the oficial release then
[07:10] <Ropechoborra> Thanks =)
[07:10] <cherubiel> ciphernemo, start with #kernelnewbies
[07:10] <bruenig> whyme, if you need to use the forums. you can use google, google something like       site:ubuntuforums.org whatever you are searching for    and then use the google cache
[07:10] <wladston> if anyone can help, please /msg me
[07:11] <khaije1> deFrysk: it's being released in the next few weeks isn't it?
[07:11] <eracc> ciphernemo, there is also ##kernel.
[07:11] <whyme> yea, but what's up with them?
[07:11] <deFrysk> !roadmap
[07:11] <ciphernemo> eracc: thank you eracc, becuase there's pretty much no one at #kernelnewbies
[07:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about roadmap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:11] <Moture> ubotu?
[07:11] <deFrysk> it is due this month 26th i believe
[07:11] <Moture> Is ubotu a bot? -_-
[07:12] <bruenig> they have been saying for a while that they were awaiting approval for server upgrades from canonical, maybe they got the approval and are switching over
[07:12] <deFrysk> !ubotu
[07:12] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:12] <grayscale> hi, im looking for help mounting a drive through X.  Whenever I double click on the drive, it give me an error about how device /dev/hdb1 is not removable and cant execute pmount
[07:12] <khaije1> deFrysk: oh ok, from your comments i couldn't tell if something had chaanged
[07:12] <opixus> does anyone know how to remove the sub-heading from the xfce main menu
[07:12] <FaLCoN> hi again .. I forgot my root password I have just user now unfortunately dedicated has rebooted and Services has closed . How can I restart vsftpd service by a user ? Or is it possible ?
[07:12] <cherubiel> grayscale, edit /etc/pmount.allow
[07:12] <cherubiel> grayscale, add your drive entry and retry
[07:12] <grayscale> will do, thanks
[07:12] <eracc> ciphernemo, there is also #linux-kernel (9 people in there when I did a channel list here).
[07:12] <cherubiel> FaLCoN, sudo?
[07:13] <bruenig> opixus, maybe #xubuntu could help, if there is anyone in there
[07:13] <opixus> kk thx
[07:13] <mistershooby> hi can someone help me out with a problem I'm having
[07:13] <mistershooby> when I run easyubuntu, I get the following error
[07:13] <bruenig> !ask
[07:13] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:13] <mistershooby> W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[07:13] <vicscandl> mistershooby: funny, i was going to ask about that too.
[07:13] <whyme> bruenig, I actually wanted to browse through the gaming forums, to see what games are available under linux... I know that quake and doom work, but... what other fps's? I know that planetside doesn't though, which is a shame...
[07:14] <bruenig> mistershooby, looks like one of the repos it adds needs a gpg authentication key and they didn't put it in the easyubuntu program/script/whatever it is.
[07:15] <mistershooby> hm
[07:16] <bruenig> mistershooby, what are you trying to do with easyubuntu, perhaps I could tell you how to do it in another way or someone else
[07:16] <pike_> whyme: there is savage or savage2 kind of a strategy online fps
[07:16] <mistershooby> install flash
[07:16] <mistershooby> heh
[07:16] <FaLCoN> cherubiel: what's is sudo ?
[07:16] <pike_> whyme: well not really
[07:16] <cherubiel> !sudo
[07:16] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:16] <Ramunas> nobody has lirc set up in here?
[07:16] <Itpbull> !madwifi
[07:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:17] <cherubiel> mistershooby, the signatures are included in the Release files, as the error message suggests. So if the public key is not known to GPG the above error messages are produced.
[07:17] <cherubiel> mistershooby, are you facing any issues because of this??
[07:17] <Materazzi> !pastebin
[07:17] <bruenig> mistershooby, use this guide here to enable the extra repos, once you enable the extra repos, open a terminal Applications>Accessories>Terminal and copy this in "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[07:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:17] <bruenig> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-5bbef89639d9a7d93fe38f6356dc17847d373096
[07:18] <hastesaver> whyme, there is tremulous (I've heard it's an FPS, and I've heard it's good...) and there is Wolfenstein:Enemy Territory
[07:18] <cherubiel> whyme, doom3!!
[07:18] <Wabbit23> Anyone running the Dell Inspiron 6400 and having audio issues?
[07:19] <FaLCoN> cherubiel: falcon is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[07:19] <FaLCoN> :(
[07:19] <cherubiel> FaLCoN, you need to add the user falcon to /etc/sudoers
[07:20] <cherubiel> FaLCoN, did you say you lost the root password?
[07:20] <xiphias> Hello. No question here, I just wanted to say, I installed Ubuntu last night on my workstation and I love it. I'm mostly a Debian/Gentoo guy anyways.
[07:20] <bruenig> !offtopic
[07:20] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:20] <FaLCoN> cherubiel : yes
[07:20] <mistershooby> thanks
[07:20] <mistershooby> anyone know when flash 9 is going to come out
[07:20] <mistershooby> I see all these digg stories about it
[07:20] <mistershooby> but no release yet
[07:20] <Ramunas> me too :(
[07:20] <bruenig> mistershooby, the linux flash blog seems to indicate a beta might come out soon, I dont think the official one is slated until 07
[07:21] <mistershooby> oh damn
[07:21] <bruenig> the beta would have to be better than this crap though
[07:21] <lastnode> how do you mount an iso, i mean what are the flags?
[07:21] <bruenig> !iso
[07:21] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[07:21] <mistershooby> agh I installed flashplugin-nonfree
[07:21] <FaLCoN> cherubiel : I lost my root password :( I have just a user and I must start vsftpd service :(
[07:21] <mistershooby> but youtube still says I need flash
[07:22] <bruenig> mistershooby, it should work on youtube, some sites require 8 or 9
[07:22] <hastesaver> FaLCoN, that's why you should use sudo :-)
[07:22] <cherubiel> FaLCoN, do you have phsical access to the box?
[07:22] <hastesaver> mistershooby, restart your browser?
[07:22] <lastnode> bruenig, asks me to specify a filesystem type
[07:22] <FaLCoN> ah absolutely not ..
[07:22] <FaLCoN> Iam a ssh user
[07:22] <bruenig> mistershooby, put this in the addressbar of firefox "about:plugins"
[07:22] <nex_> Anyone help me out with compiz? i'm getting a repo error
[07:22] <FaLCoN> It's dedicated abroad
[07:22] <mistershooby> bruenig: "no plugins are installed"
[07:23] <nex_> Compiz:  Depends: compiz-plugins but it is not going to be installed
[07:23] <naruto> I've just reinstalled my dapper. But it seems that it can't mount usb-storage automaticly after I do some upgrades?
[07:23] <naruto> could someone help me please?
[07:23] <whyme> http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=1011 is where you want to go - the guy's got a massive list of games to play on linux!!
[07:23] <bruenig> lastnode, that file system flag goes something like -t ext3, or whatever your file system is. I am not too familiar with mounting isos, generally just partitions or hard drives, a man mount might help
[07:23] <bruenig> mistershooby, all installed with flashplugin-nonfree?
[07:24] <mistershooby> all installed?
[07:24] <mistershooby> yeah
[07:24] <mistershooby> lemme uninstall/reinstall in synaptic
[07:24] <dark_light> there are any way to have live bookmarks with galeon?
[07:24] <bruenig> mistershooby, go to the terminal and do ls /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[07:24] <dark_light> or epiphany
[07:24] <nex_> can anyone help me out with compiz?????
[07:25] <bruenig> nex_, #ubuntu-xgl
[07:25] <pike_> lastnode: offhand mount -t iso9660 -o loop /dev/  /mnt  i think
[07:25] <lastnode> bruenig, got it, bchunk error i think
[07:25] <lastnode> pike_, got it, thanks
[07:25] <cherubiel> FaLCoN, sorry i think you might be stuck.. you should talk to the admin.
[07:25] <nex_> thank
[07:25] <Itpbull> If I install an application thru synaptic, can I install an old version o0f it (without synpatic) will it work?
[07:25] <cherubiel> FaLCoN, if the root password is lost, you could use a live cd, mount the root fs, chroot and do a passwd.
[07:25] <bruenig> mistershooby, when you do ls /usr/lib/firefox/plugins, what is the output?
[07:26] <mistershooby> bruenig: libunixprintplugin.so
[07:26] <FaLCoN> I'm gonna make a phone call ...
[07:26] <bruenig> mistershooby, you should have flashplayer.xpt and libflashplayer.so if you installed flashplugin-nonfree
[07:27] <jenda> Where can I report gobby bugs?
[07:27] <mistershooby> bruenig: well I just reinstalled
[07:27] <mistershooby> in synaptic
[07:27] <bruenig> synaptic is apt-get, they are the same, synaptic is just a graphical front end
[07:27] <mistershooby> well if I've installed it
[07:27] <mistershooby> why isn't it showing up
[07:27] <lastnode> bchunk problem with a vcd, when i mount the way pike_ said to, i get -  wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop4,
[07:27] <lastnode>        missing codepage or other error
[07:27] <lastnode> whoops, sorry, thought that was online
[07:28] <lastnode> *one line
[07:28] <bruenig> mistershooby, it is pretty easy to do it manually
[07:28] <hastesaver> mistershooby, did you close your browser before installing? did you restart it after?
[07:28] <bruenig> mistershooby, save this to the desktop or the home folder or wherever you want http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz
[07:28] <mistershooby> I closed the browser and reoped it after yes
[07:28] <bruenig> hastesaver, it should still be in the directory wouldn't it?
[07:29] <Mille> someone using scribus? and does someone know which versions of postscripts it supports? can't find any info on it on their webpage. having some problems importing ps files.
[07:29] <hastesaver> bruenig, oh, yes
[07:29] <hastesaver> bruenig, Is this flashplugin-nonfree we're talking about?
[07:29] <bruenig> hastesaver, yeah
[07:30] <bruenig> mistershooby, when you get that done, indicate as much
[07:30] <mistershooby> its extracted on the desktop
[07:30] <mistershooby> now what
[07:31] <bruenig> mistershooby, open a terminal and cd into it. Do cd ~/Desktop/installinstall_flash_player_7_linux
[07:31] <bruenig> mistershooby, then do "sudo mv sudo mv flashplayer.xpt libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
[07:31] <bruenig> "
[07:32] <sureshot> what does the tilda do in that command brueing
[07:32] <sureshot> what does the tilda do in that command bruenig
[07:32] <bruenig> mistershooby, the cd command was wrong should have been cd ~/Desktop/install_flash_player_7_linux
[07:32] <bruenig> sureshot, the ~ stands for /home/username/
[07:33] <mistershooby> okay its installed and the plugin plays video
[07:33] <mistershooby> but no audio
[07:33] <sureshot> thanks bruenig
[07:33] <host`> what's the best linux bittorrent client? or what channel should I be asking questions like that in?
[07:33] <bruenig> mistershooby, ah now you play the flashplugin sucks and doesn't work right game, have fun
[07:33] <jaek> !blacklist
[07:33] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add "blacklist modulename" to the end of that list
[07:33] <Ramunas> host`: probably azureus
[07:33] <naruto> I've just reinstalled my dapper. But it seems that it can't mount usb-storage automaticly after I did some upgrades?
[07:33] <naruto> could someone help me please?
[07:33] <jaek> !blacklist > jaek
[07:34] <bruenig> mistershooby, one solution is to close the browser and making sure any application that makes sound is closed and then restart the browser and try again
[07:34] <khaije1> host`: really it depends what you want from it, Azareus is excellent, but i don't prefer that it uses java
[07:34] <hastesaver> mistershooby, wait, you have Firefox, Flash, and no audio?
[07:35] <jaek> i created a file /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and added the line "blacklist agpgart" and it still loads that module...
[07:35] <sureshot> hey all i ask this question from time to time if anyone has any crib sheets they use for answering question here in this channel and would like to share them i would be greatful
[07:35] <host`> !kernel
[07:35] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:36] <arbrandes> Greetings
[07:36] <hastesaver> bruenig, aw, just as I was about to tell him... :-)
[07:36] <host`> if I install the 686 kernel, would that make my machine run any better?
[07:37] <arbrandes> I'm having problems with xdmcp login: it seems the gnome settings daemon is not starting.  I get a brown screen and a small white rectangle for over 2 minutes, before getting an error message.
[07:37] <matju> is pwc.ko (for Logitech/Philips USB cameras) working on Linux/PPC ? I'm trying to troubleshoot something
[07:37] <arbrandes> (Edgy here)
[07:38] <lapatsos> i am new in linux
[07:38] <devios> so ... I ran a dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 of=/dev/hda.  it stopped at 7.7 GB each time... I have a 20GB HDD, but didn't realize that until after I installed Ubuntu.  Is there a post-install test I can run on my HDD without destroying data to see if the HDD is ok?
[07:38] <pike_> host`: its a good idea
[07:38] <host`> welcome lapatsos
[07:39] <host`> thanks pike
[07:39] <lapatsos> thanks
[07:39] <anon32> help! what's the defragment command?
[07:39] <pike_> host`: since everythign is compiled for 386 i dont know if it makes much diff but i always prefer my k7 kernel
[07:40] <matju> anon32: why do you need to defrag ?
[07:40] <host`> I guess my next big linux task will be to compile my own custom kernel, but for now I think I'll just install the 686 version
[07:40] <anon32> matju, because my drive is fragmented?
[07:40] <mister_roboto> does anyone here know what truecrypt is and whether it will be put into the ubuntu repositories at some point?
[07:40] <matju> anon32: how do you know?
[07:40] <anon32> matju, because it's over 90% full and it's rather slow
[07:41] <matju> anon32: then you may try: apt-get install defrag
[07:41] <finalbeta> After installing wine a .wine dir should exist right? Or how do you create it?
[07:41] <anon32> matju, ok
[07:41] <matju> anon32: but really, i never tried it, cause i never needed to in 10 years of linux
[07:41] <pike_> finalbeta: try running winecfg
[07:41] <chaosmeika> I need some assistance. Im installing ubuntu on a iMac g3 and Im coming up with an error
[07:42] <bruenig> final beta a "winecfg" will do it
[07:42] <anon32> matju, that's nice... oh yea, could you tell me how to open a webpage in w3m?
[07:42] <chaosmeika> is there a page that has a reference about errors and how to solve them?>
[07:42] <linuxphotogeek> truecrypt is file or device encryption app at http://www.truecrypt.org/
[07:42] <matju> anon32: what's w3m ?
[07:42] <SAM_theman> yup i am back
[07:42] <anon32> matju, the text browser that's installed by default
[07:42] <finalbeta> thnx pike_
[07:42] <lapatsos> Is any one from grecce?
[07:42] <Sionide> !gr
[07:42] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[07:43] <Sionide> :-)
[07:43] <Sionide> lucky guess... heh
[07:43] <mister_roboto> linuxphotogeek: yes, i know and i use it on windows. but it doesn't compile on latest ubuntu so i want to know if it's going to make it to the repositories some time
[07:43] <FaLCoN> greetz from Turkey to Greece !
[07:43] <matju> anon32: i don't recall using a terminal-based web browser this century.
[07:43] <mister_roboto> linuxphotogeek: they have some debs on their download site but not for edgy and the source is missing a file that it depends on.
[07:44] <anon32> matju, it's nice when you're in console mode
[07:44] <erider_> do anyone have both 32bit and 64bit libraries running on there system
[07:44] <devios> so ... I ran a dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 of=/dev/hda.  it stopped at 7.7 GB each time... I have a 20GB HDD, but didn't realize that until after I installed Ubuntu.  Is there a post-install test I can run on my HDD without destroying data to see if the HDD is ok?
[07:44] <matju> anon32: i'm not in console mode. (and i used to be a console freak too.)
[07:44] <SAM_theman> I am going to try AmericasArmy
[07:44] <Aphex_Twin> hey there. is it possible to open a text console stationed in the current nautilus folder?
[07:44] <linuxphotogeek> runs on dapper
[07:44] <anon32> matju, defrag doesn't work on ReiserFS or ext3 :-(
[07:44] <linuxphotogeek> I think I used the deb
[07:44] <THX-1138> devios - "testdisk" a quick google should find it
[07:44] <Sionide> SAM_theman, i got it running, but it was quite slow cos my laptop's not so good..:
[07:44] <Sionide> :)*
[07:44] <mister_roboto> linuxphotogeek: right, but i'm not on dapper ;)
[07:45] <SAM_theman> o what kind
[07:45] <matju> anon32: that's because no-one using ext3 or reiserfs really cares about defrag
[07:45] <anon32> matju, :-(
[07:45] <linuxphotogeek> I plan to move to edgy so wish me luck?
[07:45] <Sionide> devios, are you sure you haven't partitioned your 20 gig into a 7.7gb and the remainder??
[07:45] <THX-1138> devios - I think gparted and reformatting it should fix it.
[07:45] <Sionide> linuxphotogeek, good luck...
[07:45] <matju> anon32: anyway fragmentation isn't nearly as much of a problem as on FAT systems, which are super bad at handling it.
[07:45] <mister_roboto> linuxphotogeek: i'm using it on 3 machines and it's working well
[07:46] <Sionide> THX-1138, reformatting will lose all the data though
[07:46] <bruenig> I wish you failure
[07:46] <Zoffix_> Hi, I've just installed Ubuntu 6.10, and I want it to boot up in text mode, for some reason I can't find 'inittab' file. It is not in /etc and 'find' produced no results. Did anybody have a similar problem?
[07:46] <LSD`> FAT filesystems are super bad, period.
[07:46] <Aphex_Twin> konqueror can open up text consoles in the current folder, can nautilus do the same?
[07:46] <THX-1138> true enough - the penguin slueth kit is a collection of tools
[07:46] <Sionide> Zoffix_, $ locate inittab   /etc/inittab    <- it's there for me..
[07:46] <anon32> LSD`, they *are* easy to implement and are really light...
[07:46] <bruenig> Zoffix_, #ubuntu+1
[07:47] <mister_roboto> LSD`: they are good when you want to share a partition with windows though
[07:47] <fishsticks> when i try to compile something, and it says "can not create binaries", what do i need to do
[07:47] <pike_> Zoffix_: thats wierd
[07:47] <LSD`> anon32: they're still shite
[07:47] <Aphex_Twin> don't gnome users never need to open a text console in the current nautilus folder?
[07:47] <LSD`> mister_roboto: no they're not
[07:47] <Sionide> mister_roboto, you can get a third party app which allows windows to read ext3
[07:47] <mister_roboto> fishsticks: are you trying to overwrite a running binary?
[07:47] <Aphex_Twin> 's/never/ever/g'
[07:47] <THX-1138> fishsticks: have you installed a compiler? "build-essential"
[07:47] <anon32> LSD`, then why are all flash drives FAT?
[07:47] <Sionide> Aphex_Twin, you can do that with a nautlis script, quite easily
[07:47] <Zoffix_> oh man =( Edgy is not stable =(
[07:47] <bruenig> Aphex_Twin, generally I am able to cd
[07:47] <fishsticks> nah, i just installed gcc, thanks THX-1138
[07:48] <mister_roboto> LSD`: what do you recommend in place of FAT then? supposedly writes to NTFS still cannot be trusted
[07:48] <fishsticks> i've been away from linux for a long while, haha
[07:48] <Sionide> Aphex_Twin, nautilus* even
[07:48] <LSD`> anon32: saying FAT is a good filesystem because everything can read it is like saysing Windows is a good OS because every PC runs it
[07:48] <anon32> mister_roboto, there's ext3 support for Windows
[07:48] <pike_> nice thing about fat is it works from solaris to xp out of the box cant say that for really any other format
[07:48] <THX-1138> flash drives are small fat32 is compatible with most oses
[07:48] <mister_roboto> Sionide: read and write?   anon32: read and write support?
[07:49] <Sionide> mister_roboto, yeah, it's called e2fs
[07:49] <anon32> LSD`, it *is* good for *some* things because it's really simple to implement
[07:49] <THX-1138> !ntfs
[07:49] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:49] <fishsticks> okay, now it says i need SDL
[07:49] <Aphex_Twin> bruening: what's the procedure to do that?
[07:49] <LSD`> anon32: fact is that FAT isn't, never was and never will be a good filesystem
[07:49] <Sionide> sourceforge appears to be down for me at the moment, but the link is e2fsprogs.sf.net
[07:49] <Zoffix_> Is Ubuntu 6.06 stable?
[07:49] <bruenig> yes
[07:49] <Sionide> Zoffix_, it is
[07:49] <mister_roboto> Sionide: that's good to know!  you can mount an ext3 partition on a device letter, for example?
[07:49] <pike_> Zoffix_: its so stable its inert
[07:49] <Aphex_Twin> bruenig, Sionide : what's the procedure to do that?
[07:49] <mdjake> Currently what is the best TV application for Dapper?
[07:50] <Sionide> mister_roboto, indeed:) i have it on my windows 2000 dual-boot
[07:50] <THX-1138> "LTS" long term service. supported by canonical for the next 5 yrs.
[07:50] <Zarephath> clear
[07:50] <anon32> gah, k3b is a 50MB download
[07:50] <Zoffix_> man why I was never told that 6.10 is not stable =( wasted a DVD and 4 hourts =( the version number is even, what the hell
[07:50] <yarddog> 6.10 is stable
[07:50] <Zarephath> Anyone know of any information on how to get a PocketPC running mobile 5 to sync in gnome?
[07:50] <yarddog> lol
[07:50] <Sionide> Aphex_Twin, there's a nautilus scripts folder, if you install the script from g-scripts.sf.net it'll be under the Scripts menu on your right-click menu on nautlis
[07:51] <yarddog> at the end of the month
[07:51] <anon32> OMGWTFBBQ... wow, k3b is massive
[07:51] <THX-1138> aon32 - why not cdr-tools - command line or right click from the desktop, or gnomebaker?
[07:51] <Sionide> nautilus* can't type tonight arrgghhhh
[07:51] <mdjake> Currently what is the best TV application for Dapper?
[07:51] <Zoffix_> yarddog, """"Edgy is not stable, it is for development only.  Do not use this on production machines"""" <<--- topic in #ubuntu+1
[07:51] <Sionide> mdjake, mythTV?
[07:51] <_Spire_> anon32: only because it needs to pull qt and some kde libs
[07:51] <Sionide> Zoffix_, Edgy is 6.10
[07:51] <yarddog> Zoffix_, in about 3 weeks, it is stable
[07:51] <Sionide> Zoffix_, Dapper is 6.06
[07:51] <_Spire_> anon32: if you have kde installed, it's only about 2MB
[07:51] <mdjake> Sionide: does it have teletext support?
[07:51] <blenda> hi! where is the dapper live cd? is it included in the desktop cd iso?
[07:51] <devios> why don't I find testdisk in synaptic
[07:51] <devios> ?
[07:51] <anon32> Zoffix_, there's like 2 projects that use the even/odd system
[07:51] <McNutella> how do I disable OSS  ?
[07:51] <_Spire_> blenda: yes, it is
[07:51] <Sionide> mdjake, not sure - you'd have to ask someone who uses it, but i've heard good things about it, ask google :)
[07:52] <blenda> _Spire_: thanks!
[07:52] <_Spire_> blenda: the desktop cd boots into the live cd, which includes the installer
[07:52] <mdjake> Sionide: thx for fast answer
[07:52] <blenda> _Spire_: ok!
[07:52] <Sionide> mdjake, http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythFeatures
[07:52] <carl> _Spire_ : yes
[07:52] <Sionide> mdjake, no worries, that's why #ubuntu rocks your socks:)
[07:52] <Aphex_Twin> Sinoide: hm... I think this is what I was looking for: http://tinyurl.com/p77m2
[07:52] <_Spire_> carl: hmm?
[07:52] <chaosmeika> Are there any users familiar with installing ubuntu 6 on an iMac G3? I need some assistance.
[07:53] <Sionide> Aphex_Twin, that looks good.. thanks for the link cos i've been looking for that too.. heh
[07:53] <carl> _Spire_ : sorry
[07:53] <THX-1138> blenda - the standard cd doesn't initialise the mount command for hd partitions only, cd/dvd drives. not sure why. (security? liability?)
[07:53] <Sionide> Aphex_Twin, i also use this; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38938 (looks like forums are down but bookmark it and check back later!) it's awesome
[07:53] <Zoffix_> Sionide, ok, when I run zoffix@zoffix:~$ locate inittab  I get this: /usr/lib/upstart/migrate-inittab.pl     should I run this script or what?
[07:53] <blenda> THX-1138: ok, but I guess i can do this manually?
[07:53] <Aphex_Twin> Sinoide: This was a very functional feature of Konqueror, I'm surprised it did not get into gnome's Nautilus
[07:54] <TheGateKeeper> chaosmeika: nope, and what is your specific question?
[07:54] <Sionide> Aphex_Twin, it is... it's just like firefox extensions, all the brilliant functionality *some* people like can be added in, no troubles
[07:54] <Sionide> Zoffix_, really not sure, i'm just saying it's ok on my machine so i've no idea how to proceed on yours.. sorry
[07:55] <Zoffix_> Sionide, well, it seems like the script won't even run, because it checks to see if there is /etc/inittab and it is not there =(
[07:55] <THX-1138> blenda - i might guess that the "alternate install" text mode cd includes the ability to write to hard disk but haven't tried it. (psst, shhh - I use the knoppx cd. - gack don't tell anyone)
[07:55] <Sionide> Aphex_Twin, it's "Sionide" hehe, if you spell it wrong, it doesn't highlight to me what you've said!
[07:55] <Zoffix_> I am confused, it has to be somewhere, right?
[07:55] <Sionide> Zoffix_, i dunno i guess you could copy mine and put it there manually, yourself?? i'm just guessing now..
[07:55] <carl> hi, i have a toshiba gigabeat s (sync with MTP) did anyone know a program compatible with this playforsure (MTP)
[07:55] <pike_> is there some other config file for launching getty and such in edgy?
[07:55] <blenda> THX-1138: maybe i should get my hands on a knoppix cd too :-)
[07:55] <sproingie> not having an inittab seems like bad news.  init won't run anything if there isn't one, no?
[07:56] <Zoffix_> Sionide, yeah that would be a decent idea
[07:56] <Aphex_Twin> Sionide: ah, sorry for that
[07:56] <mister_roboto> Sionide: that's funny you say that. when you were talking to me earlier you weren't typing any name at all  :)
[07:56] <THX-1138> Aphex_Twin: Do you know a_pha?
[07:56] <bruenig> !upstart
[07:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upstart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:56] <Zoffix_> Sionide, can you paste it? http://sial.org/pbot/
[07:56] <Aphex_Twin> THX-1138: no. what's that?
[07:56] <Sionide> mister_roboto, i usually do, but if i've just said something to someone and i say another line, i usually don't bother on the second line but maybe i should
[07:56] <bruenig> Zoffix_, maybe this has something to do with it? Just a guess http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstart
[07:57] <THX-1138> blenda - the dvd image has all three install modes for ubuntu. (dvds install faster and the image includes more avail packages )
[07:57] <_Spire_> THX-1138: What about writing to the hard drive? (I haven't been paying attention) The desktop CD can too.
[07:57] <Sionide> Zoffix_, so are you not even able to properly boot up at all then or what?
[07:57] <blenda> THX-1138: too bad i don't have a working dvd burner then :_(
[07:58] <blenda> THX-1138: but thanks for the hint anyway
[07:58] <chaosmeika> TheGateKeeper> Well, Im not that familiar with ubuntu, but I wanted to load my G3 with that as an OS instead of the default os9. I burned myself a copy of powerpc for it and went to install, only to run into an error. Is there something that I need to do before installing?
[07:58] <Zoffix_> Sionide, no, it boots up fine, but in graphical mode, I want it to boot in text mode
[07:58] <THX-1138> Aphex_Twin: Just someone here yesterday, they wanted help with the assistive applications - low vision.
[07:58] <_Spire_> chaosmeika: what error?
[07:58] <Zoffix_> bruno__, hm, yes makes sense, I wonder how do I change it to boot in the text mode now
[07:58] <Sionide> Zoffix_, ah i see, but i'm wondering *how* can it boot up fine if there is no inittab ?
[07:58] <Sionide> Zoffix_, ctrl+alt+f1 or f2 or f3 etc
[07:58] <_Spire_> Sionide: isn't it a different boot system
[07:59] <host`> how do I edit the servers/services that start up on boot?
[07:59] <carl> anyone know how to sync device (mp3 player) with MTP on linux ?
[07:59] <Sionide> Zoffix_, oh right oops to boot i dunno..
[07:59] <THX-1138> _Spire_: It can? - i saw a message during boot that said not initialising mount" - couldn't convince it later to see and cp fles to a second drie.
[07:59] <pike_> host`: if you look in /etc/init.d/ those are the scripts that run. you can sudo update-rc.d -f scriptname remove  or i think there are front ends for that
[08:00] <_Spire_> THX-1138: it should... just go to the terminal and 'sudo mount /dev/hdwhatever'
[08:00] <Zoffix_> Sionide, hehe, I know of that, I just need to reboot the X without rebooting the whole system, it seems that the reason why I can't find inittab is because of that Upstart thing, I'm reading now :)
[08:00] <pike_> host`: removing only removes the sym links in the rc.d directories under /etc/ you can still run the script manually like sudo /etc/init.d/scripname start
[08:00] <THX-1138> _Spire_ - Will do.
[08:00] <host`> thanks pike_
[08:01] <TheGateKeeper> chaosmeika: first off I am never used mac stuff so beware of anything I say, however sounds like the same problem windows users have, you need to repartition your disc to accept linux, I would recommend resizing first before going the whole distance removing your old partition
[08:01] <Sionide> Zoffix_, awesome, good thinking from bruenig then
[08:01] <_Spire_> THX-1138: although you should unmount before you install - there's a bug in the installer that makes it crash if a partition is mounted before it starts (at least for me, they might have fixed it now)
[08:01] <THX-1138> _Spire_ - What limits does the terminal impose on filename length?
[08:01] <Aphex_Twin> do you need to reboot the computer to get nautilus to load plugins?
[08:01] <edgarin> Hi I have a problem with the ubuntu 6.06 and my skype, when i try to call in skype show a error: Problem with sound device, ideas????
[08:02] <_Spire_> THX-1138: I'm not sure, though it's plenty long (like 255 characters or something around that)
[08:02] <TheGateKeeper> chaosmeika: I would imagine that the gparted livecd may be of use here
[08:02] <Sionide> edgarin, kill skype, kill anything else which might be using the soundcard, go to a terminal, type "killall esd" then "esd" you should hear some beeps, then run skype and try phoning someone -- that works for me
[08:03] <Sionide> edgarin, OR download the Skype Beta .deb file and I think that works better :)
[08:03] <thatGuy_>  hey
[08:03] <edgarin> ok
[08:03] <TheGateKeeper> chaosmeika: assuming I am not complete rubbish
[08:03] <thatGuy_> is there someone in here that can find what the last thing i said in here was?
[08:03] <thatGuy_> please
[08:03] <pike_> edgarin: i use ekiga as an alternative to skype works very well and is open but i know alot of people need skype
[08:03] <reverie> Heya guys.
[08:03] <thatGuy_> its a command that i want to save
[08:03] <jrib> thatGuy_: "hey"
[08:03] <thatGuy_> hey
[08:03] <thatGuy_> lol
[08:03] <thatGuy_> no
[08:03] <thatGuy_> about an hour ago
[08:03] <reverie> I finally got my motherboard to post.
[08:03] <Sionide> pike_, does ekiga connect to the skype network?
[08:03] <THX-1138> _Spire_ "cp /media/sda1/linux_fresh/gstreamer0.8-esd_0.8.12-1ubuntu2_i386.deb  /home/bill/Desktop " created an error. - bad spelling maybe?
[08:03] <thatGuy_> starts with "sudo"
[08:04] <pike_> Sionide: nope thats the problem skype is closed
[08:04] <pike_> :(
[08:04] <jrib> thatGuy_: sudo aptitude purge gnome-bin gnome-desktop-data gnome-panel gnome-panel-data gnome-utils gnome-libs-data gnome-control-center nautilus libgnome32 libgnomeui32 libgnomesupport0 gnome-session libgnorba27 libglade-gnome0 gnomp3
[08:04] <Sionide> pike_, well skype wins then...
[08:04] <thatGuy_> yes!  thanks
[08:04] <Sionide> *shrug*
[08:04] <Sionide> pike_, it's the way of the world :(
[08:04] <_Spire_> THX-1138: wait, are you running the livecd right now?
[08:04] <thatGuy_> it actually got rid of gnome
[08:04] <thatGuy_> now to re-install and see if that fixes the problem
[08:04] <haffe> Does anyone here have any experiience with suspend2 or is there an alternate way to get my nforce2 motherboard to do hibernate?
[08:04] <THX-1138> _Spire_ no, - my first halting steps at bash scripting.
[08:05] <_Spire_> THX-1138: Oh, ok. That should work. What's the error?
[08:05] <revolutionskate> I am having a problem with configuring my NVidia drivers with dapper... I have the nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common packages installed.  Then I ran sudo nvidia-glx-config enable and restart and the nvidia driver is not being loaded
[08:05] <khaije1> anyone one know if the edgy release will support xen-style virtualization as a guest?
[08:06] <khaije1> or would it need the usual patch...
[08:06] <CoolCubix> Aphex_Twin, you windowlicker ? ^^
[08:06] <THX-1138> _Spire_  - nvm - likely a spelling error. how would i dpk -i install everything in a directory?
[08:06] <_Spire_> THX-1138: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[08:07] <THX-1138> s/dpk/dpkg/g
[08:07] <chaosmeika> TheGateKeeper>ok, ill looking into the gparted ubuntu install and see if that is a better solution than using the powerpc version
[08:07] <rahmiel> Setting up filesharing in my network.. I can access all the windows machines and files, but when a windows user tries to access my machine and files it prompts them for a login. My normal login doesn't work nor does a new user I setup. What am I missing?
[08:07] <chaosmeika> TheGateKeeper>thanks for the assistance.
[08:07] <Aphex_Twin> is there a (lightweight) text editor out there that can perform automatic code indenting and highliting? (the indenting is more important)
[08:07] <gksudo> Hello, is there a way to remove all gnome apps? Is removing libgtk a way to do so?
[08:07] <THX-1138> _Spire_ will it install them in the required order. resolve dependencies?
[08:08] <erider> Aphex_Twin:  nano
[08:08] <_Spire_> THX-1138: I'm not sure about in the required order - it just installs them in some order
[08:08] <bulio|> is there a command-line program that automatically tags music?
[08:08] <pike_> gksudo: thats the only way i know to do it. remove a popular dependancy
[08:08] <TheGateKeeper> chaosmeika: gparted livecd just has a partitioner on it, you will still need your powerpc ubuntu install disc
[08:08] <SAM_theman> who here has xmms?
[08:08] <SAM_theman> installed..
[08:08] <jrib> SAM_theman: probably a lot of people
[08:08] <_Spire_> THX-1138: if you want to resolve dependencies, that's what apt-get/aptitude was build for
[08:09] <TheGateKeeper> chaosmeika: gparted livecd is just a tool
[08:09] <bulio|> no one?
[08:09] <Aphex_Twin> erider: this only indents while the text is being written, but is there an editor that can indent ugly code?
[08:09] <SAM_theman> well i am having a problem with the equalizer
[08:09] <THX-1138> _Spire_ - so i could alpabetise/rename them?
[08:09] <SAM_theman> it dosn't work
[08:09] <_Spire_> THX-1138: *built
[08:09] <jrib> bulio|: id3v2 comes up in a search
[08:09] <erider> Aphex_Twin: have you tried vim
[08:09] <THX-1138> _Spire_ - Okay i'll play with aptitude.
[08:09] <Aphex_Twin> erider: It frightenes me
[08:09] <_Spire_> THX-1138: I'm not too sure... but you could try alphabatising them. btw, what are you trying to install?
[08:10] <rahmiel> Setting up filesharing in my network.. I can access all the windows machines and files, but when a windows user tries to access my machine and files it prompts them for a login. My normal login doesn't work nor does a new user I setup. What am I missing?
[08:10] <pike_> Aphex_Twin: vim with syntax on is a joy :)
[08:10] <THX-1138> _Spire_  xcompmgr - beryl gives me vertigo.
[08:10] <_Spire_> THX-1138: be sure to read it's manpage
[08:10] <_Spire_> THX-1138: xcompmgr? that should be a sime
[08:11] <_Spire_> THX-1138: *simple "sudo aptitude install xcompmgr"
[08:11] <chaosmeika> TheGateKeeper> ah ok. Is that tool located on the ubuntu website? If not, Ill do a search, but I wanted to know before hand...
[08:11] <bsnider> is there a way to change gnome's color scheme?
[08:11] <THX-1138> _Spire_: I will need to point it at a directory.
[08:11] <Aphex_Twin> erider, pike_: the opportunity costs of learning vim outweigh the bulkiness of Eclipse (for Java at least)
[08:11] <_Spire_> THX-1138: why?
[08:11] <erider> Aphex_Twin: its not that bad try vimtutor
[08:12] <jrib> bsnider: you can use a different theme
[08:12] <THX-1138> _Spire_ The packages are local. - xcompmgr isn't on a single repository.
[08:12] <bsnider> jrib: is that the only way?
[08:12] <jrib> bsnider: that's the only way I know of
[08:12] <_Spire_> THX-1138: it isn't? have you enabled universe? it should be there, unless you're using something predating dapper
[08:12] <w30> Aphex_Twin, there are editors or whatever you call them for writing code and keeping your indenting neat and consistant, check Google I suppose?
[08:12] <erider> Aphex_Twin: go to your command line and type: vimtutor
[08:12] <TheGateKeeper> chaosmeika: gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[08:13] <_Spire_> THX-1138: and besides, xcompmgr is a single package.
[08:13] <chaosmeika> TheGateKeeper> thanks
[08:13] <TheGateKeeper> chaosmeika: np :-) hope it all works out ok
[08:13] <THX-1138> _Spire_ - Yes, it is a single package and a very cool one. - the supporting apps for composite are difficult to sync.
[08:14] <SuperMiguel> any one know how to write basic on ubuntu?
[08:14] <_Spire_> THX-1138: that's strange... xcompmgr doesn't _have_ supporting apps when I installed it
[08:14] <THX-1138> _Spire_ - Many Thanks :) - I have learned something.
[08:15] <_Spire_> THX-1138: one more question - what does xcompmgr want when you install it?
[08:16] <THX-1138> _Spire_ Can i show you? - will "/xompmgr/ls > xcompmgr.txt be postable?
[08:16] <THX-1138> pastebin
[08:17] <_Spire_> whoops
[08:17] <host`> crappy
[08:17] <SuperMiguel> there is any program that will allow me to write basic?
[08:17] <kiersie> how can i put an img-file on floppy?
[08:17] <BrunoUV> hey.. can some1 tell me how i can split a file into small files with .rar extension???
[08:18] <host`> I have a little box open in the bottom right of my screen saying "Warning" and telling me that azureus didn't shut down right, and when I click hide it doesn't go away
[08:19] <SuperMiguel> any basic ompiler?
[08:19] <_Spire_> SuperMiguel: try freebasic
[08:19] <concept10> can I update to eft from breezy without many problems?
[08:20] <K^Holtz> i have a 320MB file that i need to be around 200.. how can i compress that with ubuntu? its a video file
[08:20] <pike_> host`: only way ive been able to remove it is closing azureus.  one of the reasons i use ktorrent now
[08:20] <fulld> i'm trying to install dapper on a 2001 dell, and it freezes at the X splash screen - any ideas on this?
[08:20] <ciphernemo> Is there any easier way to remove directories without rm'ing the files inside and then rmdir the dir itself (no gui solutions please)?
[08:20] <i_m_meen> ubotu: help
[08:20] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[08:20] <SuperMiguel> !basic
[08:20] <Flannel> ciphernemo: -rf flags
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about basic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <Flannel> ciphernemo: just be careful ;)
[08:21] <host`> pike_: I closed it
[08:21] <K^Holtz> !zip
[08:21] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[08:21] <Camus_SoNiCo> Hello, I've a doubt with evolution, can someone help me?
[08:21] <ciphernemo> Flannel: -rf flags on which command, rm?
[08:21] <Flannel> ciphernemo: correct
[08:21] <ciphernemo> Flannel: ok, thx! :)
[08:21] <host`> it's still there
[08:21] <_Spire_> chaosmeika: couldn't you 'mv directory/* . && rmdir directory/'?
[08:21] <pike_> host`: if that doesn work maybe type pkill java or killall java etc
[08:21] <Zoffix_> Hm, the only relevant information I found for Upstart is """Your existing /etc/inittab should be a useful guide.""" for some reason it does not exist for me =( can someone paste that file, I'll try to put it manually (someone with Ubuntu 6.10 preferably), Thanks in advance
[08:21] <ciphernemo> Flannel: I'd ask ##kernel or #linux-kernel, but those channels are pretty much dead for users
[08:21] <i_m_meen> !ro
[08:22] <ubotu> ro is Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro.
[08:22] <K^Holtz> i'm sorry, i dont mean to rush, but i kinda need an answer quickly.. how can i compress my 350MB video file to around 200 on ubuntu?
[08:22] <Flannel> Zoffix_: #ubuntu+1 for Edgy support
[08:22] <pike_> K^Holtz: what format?
[08:22] <_Spire_> host`: or almost guaranteed, kill -9 `pidof java`
[08:22] <K^Holtz> pike_: avi
[08:23] <howieson26> !de
[08:23] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:23] <pike_> K^Holtz: im not sure how effective compression would be on a divx file i guess you could tar cfzv file.tar.gz target.avi
[08:23] <i_m_meen> testing ubotu romanian support
[08:23] <i_m_meen> !ro
[08:23] <ubotu> ro is Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro.
[08:23] <pike_> K^Holtz: well not tar since its one file
[08:23] <THX-1138> Hi Flannel
[08:23] <jokoon> Prout whoops, sorry
[08:23] <Flannel> THX-1138: Howdy
[08:23] <pike_> K^Holtz: gzip but wont give you much
[08:24] <K^Holtz> pike_: i basically have to put it on a flash drive to xfer it to my other computer.. but my flash drive is only 256MB
[08:24] <howieson26> !de
[08:24] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:24] <THX-1138> Flannel - first it was your mention of the command line last week. then irssi. yesterday spent bash scripting - it rocks and it's all your fualt. - lol
[08:25] <pike_> K^Holtz: take a look at some file splitting progs like gfslicer and such
[08:25] <K^Holtz> pike_: ok, thanks
[08:25] <Zoffix_> Sionide, are you still here? Can you please paste me that file? #ubuntu+1 seems to be dead for now
[08:25] <i_m_meen> ubotu: ro > me
[08:25] <i_m_meen> ubotu: ro > i_m_meen
[08:25] <matju> Question - is pwc.ko (for Logitech/Philips USB cameras) working on Ubuntu/PPC ? I'm trying to troubleshoot why it's printing a certain strange error message...
[08:25] <THX-1138> Flannel - still looking for spell czecking though
[08:25] <reverie> Aphex_Twin, pour me an analogue bubblebath please
[08:26] <SuperMiguel> does any one know a basic compiler for linux?
[08:26] <i_m_meen> gambas
[08:26] <ciphernemo> Flannel is the man :) I love rm -rf, just have to be careful not to hit enter too quickly by accident :)
[08:26] <i_m_meen> SuperMiguel: gambas
[08:26] <deanz> have a problem with my installation... can anyone help?
[08:26] <Zarephath> anyone tell me how to get libslang-dev? I assume it is part of another package?
[08:27] <ubuntuJFP> Hi all, I get LiveCD working fine on m/b ASUS P5GD1 but after hd install, reboot freezes while mounting root partition. Hlp Plse!
[08:27] <w30> Aphex_Twin, check out this coding editor with various code indentations, perl C, etc. It's in the synaptic repos as fte-console
[08:28] <deanz> need advice on installation error... the GUI system doesn't initiate... was unable to load ubuntu... can anyone help?
[08:28] <dfgas> how do i get xdmcp working?
[08:28] <denflo292> Hello.
[08:28] <pike_> deanz: whats the error someone here probably can
[08:29] <THX-1138> ubuntuJFP: Does it freeze on the message "configuring network devices"? - anyway CTRL+C will halt most nettlesome troubles on boot.
[08:29] <deanz> there is no error... it just says unable to load GUI... linux is foreign to me... so I depend on GUI installations for the moment
[08:29] <pike_> deanz: youre unable to load the livecd or is this after the install to hard disk?
[08:30] <THX-1138> deanz - have you seen this link?
[08:30] <THX-1138> !display
[08:30] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:30] <denflo292> I am coming here because I read that the Linksys USB Adaptator wusb54g is known to have problems being installed under Ubuntu. Does anyone have experience with this type of problem ?
[08:30] <Aphex_Twin> thanks, w30
[08:30] <deanz> unable to load the livecd
[08:30] <ubuntuJFP> THX-1138 Not on NIC part. I read a few pbs about a modprobe it821x to insert...
[08:30] <THX-1138> deanz: Ok, someone else knows better what tot do.
[08:30] <pike_> deanz: easiest thing might be to use the alternate install cd from ubuntu.com
[08:30] <asdqweasd> make
[08:31] <xen> hey
[08:31] <THX-1138> ubuntuJFP: Ok. - I have Ralink. - reformatted - (didn't know the secret salute CTRL+C
[08:31] <xen> azureus is hidden, without a tray icon, how can I bring it up?
[08:32] <erider> Aphex_Twin: go to your command line and type: vimtutor
[08:32] <erider> do anyone have both 32bit and 64bit libraries running on there system
[08:32] <deanz> pike -- where can i find the alternate cd install?
[08:32] <deanz> pike -- i am on the website now
[08:33] <SAM_theman> xen u using it ?? me 2
[08:33] <SAM_theman> I am trying to find it !!
[08:33] <dings_> How ban an ida is it to install gallery2 from debian on an ubuntu system?
[08:33] <xen> SAM_theman I'm trying to use it... :P  Not very effectively.
[08:33] <dings_> s/ban/bad
[08:33] <SAM_theman> just open your terminal and type az....
[08:33] <pike_> deanz: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso basically click download location and scroll down page for a link
[08:33] <SAM_theman> and it pops up ::p
[08:34] <deanz> kewl... thanks so much... i hear ubuntu is the best out there... and I want to try it bad
[08:34] <pike_> deanz: np good luck
[08:34] <b03nto> is there update notifications for fluxbuntu ?
[08:34] <ubuntuJFP> THX-1138: Ctrl-C once "frozen" on waiting for root partition doesnot allow any keyboard input. I thin I need to modprobe the right module it8212.ko somwhere (what the LiveCD does well in fact..)
[08:34] <james_uk> hey, can anybody help me with a simple evolution problem?
[08:35] <SV452> hi all
[08:35] <s1`_> is there a source for newer versions of gaim for Dapper?
[08:35] <SV452> how do one make a dummy package ???
[08:36] <THX-1138> ubuntuJFP: I won't be much help with this. - using wireless. i setup a fixed ip address and disabled dhcp.
[08:36] <siloe> Hi, have sucess network two PCs. What way to directory  for acess by others software ???
[08:36] <meatface> Howdy all!
[08:36] <slimemonkey> Anyone recommend any java compilers and/or IDEs for ubuntu?
[08:36] <cherubiel> !samba
[08:36] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:37] <dings_> Could someone tell me if there is a reason for ubuntu's gallery2 to depend on mysql without postgres as an alternative?
[08:37] <siloe> Hi, have sucess network two PCs. What way to directory  for acess by others software ???
[08:37] <LSD`> if you specify a proxy server during installation, does that get stored anywhere? If so, where?
[08:37] <JDahl> slimemonkey, Eclipse is a fairly advanced IDE
[08:37] <meatface> Does anyone know if the sound driver is loaded before you login, or after?
[08:37] <LSD`> siloe: samba
[08:38] <dyn-afk_> before meatface
[08:38] <ubuntuJFP> THX-1138: Thks in any case, but I am not on a network pb but a boot partition/controller driver recognition.. anyone else ?
[08:38] <cherubiel> !samba > siloe
[08:38] <slimemonkey> JDahl: thx
[08:38] <dyn-afk_> the login screen produces a sound when it's done loading
[08:38] <meatface> What could happen after the login prompt to cause a conflict with the sound driver and freeze the gui?
[08:39] <Alakazam_> nothing
[08:39] <Alakazam_> tail /var/log/messages
[08:39] <Alakazam_> do that.
[08:40] <erik__> bonjour
[08:40] <WebDawg> wow
[08:40] <erik__> uiuiui
[08:40] <erik__> miauuu
[08:40] <WebDawg> 988 people an no ops
[08:40] <WebDawg> heh
[08:40] <meatface> dyn-afk, I realize that their is a sound before the promt, but I was thinking along the lines of a video driver. When you boot video is working but the os loads its video driver. So I was wondering if there was a possibility of this sort of thing with sound.
[08:41] <FRET> hey all
[08:41] <meatface> hey
[08:41] <FRET> what is the command to get my ubuntu-version?
[08:42] <FRET> II#m not talking about uname...
[08:42] <dyn-afk_> there's a difference with video since there is a framebuffer
[08:42] <egypt> FRET cat /etc/issue
[08:42] <FRET> egypt, thx
[08:43] <slimemonkey> does eclipse come with its own compiler?
[08:43] <b03nto> FRET: or lsb_release -a
[08:43] <siloe> Please!!! What common way, the system put "the shared directory" ???
[08:43] <boink> siloe: didn't understand your question
[08:44] <graveson> what tool can i use to extract audio to mp3 files - sound juicer does not seem to extract tom mp3
[08:44] <ruff|away> siloe, system / administration / shared folders
[08:44] <LSD`> graveson: grip + lame
[08:45] <SV452> hmmm - dummy packages anyone ?
[08:45] <b03nto> is there update notifications for fluxbuntu ?
[08:45] <FRET> b03nto, thx
[08:45] <youser> hey could anyone here help me with amsn on dapper?
[08:46] <egypt> youser what is your doubt ?
[08:46] <youser> well when i go to open amsn .95 it shows up on my panel  "starting amsn' but no window how up then it suddenly closes off the panel
[08:47] <youser> whoops
[08:47] <egypt> hm
[08:47] <egypt> try this... &amsn
[08:47] <egypt> at terminal
[08:47] <youser> when i go to open amsn theres no window  it just shows up in the panel as 'sarting amsn"
[08:48] <egypt> or checkout some register files gedit /cd/etc/fstab
[08:48] <Peisistratos> hello everyone
[08:48] <ruff|away> youser, have you got tcl/tk installed?
[08:48] <ruff|away> hello Peisistratos
[08:48] <youser> &amsn told me & was syntax error near unexpected token
[08:48] <Zoffix> Hi, my system is missing /etc/inittab does anybody know how I can change the boot mode from graphical to text in this case?
[08:48] <Peisistratos> will someone tell me if I can run ubuntu on an pc based on E6600 Intel CPU?
[08:49] <slimemonkey> how do i chekc whether or not i already have jdk (java) installed?
[08:49] <ProN00b> Peisistratos, how many megahurts does it have ?
[08:49] <marshall> does anybody have a .deb of any banshee plugins?
[08:49] <Peisistratos> well, it's 2,6GHz 64-bit
[08:49] <youser> egypt my ftsb came  up empty
[08:49] <ruff|away> slimemonkey, dpkg -l packagename
[08:50] <marshall> ProN00b, lol megahurts
[08:50] <Hallibutorn1> http://www.ratemytumor.com/
[08:50] <Hallibutorn1> hello
[08:50] <Hallibutorn1> marshall
[08:50] <marshall> ProN00b, its megahertz
[08:50] <Peisistratos> but all the releases on its site only mention AMD support
[08:50] <slimemonkey> ruff|away; thx
[08:50] <tgelter> how can I get gtkpod to load video files to my ipod 5g?
[08:50] <marshall> Hallibutorn1, yeah?
[08:50] <ProN00b> marshall, wrong, its megahurts
[08:50] <Peisistratos> hehe
[08:50] <youser> i dont get it man amsn worked fine on breezy but wheni upgraded to dapper it now wont open
[08:50] <marshall> ProN00b, why megahurts
[08:51] <Hallibutorn1> you marshall please stop
[08:51] <Zoffix> marshall: yeah it's megahurts what are you talking about? =)
[08:51] <dyn-afk> Intel has only 1 64 bit processor and that's the itanium2
[08:51] <ProN00b> marshall, because it hurts mega that other people have more than me
[08:51] <dyn-afk> all the others are 32 bit
[08:51] <marshall> ProN00b, o
[08:51] <ProN00b> Peisistratos, why shouldn't it run ?
[08:51] <dyn-afk> some of them have 64 bit extensions so they can do some 64 bit stuff
[08:51] <marshall> does anybody have a .deb of any banshee plugins?
[08:51] <Hallibutorn1> http://www.ratemytumor.com/
[08:51] <Peisistratos> so, what release do I download? x32 Intel?
[08:52] <silox> how do i configure xorg.conf and nvidia to twinview the screen on my TV? I have already 2 screens (only one enabled), i have a Dell Inspiron 8100 Laptop
[08:52] <youser> anyone knwo how to fix amsn?
[08:52] <Materazzi> !pastebin
[08:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
 but all the releases on its site only mention AMD support << that's because AMD64 is the same as what Intel uses in most of it's processors like the Core 2 Duo
[08:52] <ruff|away> youser, have you got tcl/tk already installed?
[08:52] <Peisistratos> oh ok dyn-afk
[08:52] <dyn-afk> AMD came up with the idea in the first place
[08:52] <youser> how do i know if i do?
[08:52] <dyn-afk> so the AMD64 Ubuntu version should work on both AMD and Intel processors that support it
[08:52] <Peisistratos> I getit
[08:52] <dyn-afk> like the Core 2 Duo
[08:53] <Samuli^> dyn-afk, yeah.
[08:53] <ruff|away> youser, go to synaptic and check it yourself
[08:53] <dyn-afk> but mind you, those processors aren't 64 bit
[08:53] <dyn-afk> they just have the ability to run 64 bit software
[08:53] <Samuli^> core 2 duo is 64bit.
[08:53] <dyn-afk> big difference
[08:53] <Peisistratos> thanks man...yeah, they have 64-bit extensions
[08:53] <cherubiel> youser, ltrace amsn
[08:53] <dyn-afk> no, the core 2 duo is 32 bit
[08:53] <ProN00b> Peisistratos, you are still better of with a x86 because it can run more proprietary software
[08:53] <harisund> How do I download the source for the iptables package? Is there an apt-get for downloading the sources? Is there a deb entry I have to add?
[08:53] <dyn-afk> it has 64 bit extensions (that's what AMD64 means)
[08:53] <b03nto> is there any cli command to see if i need to upgrade something..?
[08:53] <Samuli^> dyn-afk, do you really want to start an argue about semantics?
[08:54] <dyn-afk> it's like a half implementation of 64 bit
[08:54] <ProN00b> Peisistratos, like flash and nvidia drivers
[08:54] <LSD`> b03nto: apt-get update maybe
[08:54] <cherubiel> b03nto, apt-get upgrade?
[08:54] <b03nto> is there any cli command to see if i need to update something..?
[08:54] <Peisistratos> ok guys...thnx 4 the help...
[08:54] <Peisistratos> I'm on board with x86
[08:54] <cherubiel> b03nto, update is for updating your indexes
[08:54] <harisund> b03nto, first do apt-get update, then do apt-get upgrade
[08:54] <slimemonkey> is it possible to install jdk without downloading self extracting files? i.e. can i do it through repositories....?
[08:54] <LSD`> dyn-afk: I'm pretty sure C2D has EMT64
[08:54] <cherubiel> slimemonkey, apt-get install sun-java*
[08:54] <b03nto> im looking a replacement for gnome update notifications, couse im using fluxbox
[08:54] <Samuli^> LSD`, it does.
[08:55] <xav> oh crap forums are still down
[08:55] <dyn-afk> but the 32 bit version of ubuntu is better, like ProN00b already said: there's more software for it then for the 64 bit version
[08:55] <slimemonkey> cherubiel: oh! that looks easy enough, thanks
[08:55] <dyn-afk> same goes for windowsxp
[08:55] <harisund> How do I download the source for the iptables package? Is there an apt-get for downloading the sources? Is there a deb entry I have to add?
[08:55] <youser> odd i never needed nor heard f tcl/tk before
[08:55] <dyn-afk> LSD` that's the same as AMD64 ;)
[08:55] <ruff|away> youser, amsn needs tcl/tk
[08:55] <youser> i see
[08:55] <LSD`> dyn-afk: There used to be a two instruction difference between AMD64 and EMT64, not sure if that's still the case tho
[08:55] <cherubiel> youser, apt-get install tck
[08:56] <xav> harisund, yes it's just deb-src instead of deb in sources.list
[08:56] <cherubiel> youser, apt-get install tk
[08:56] <dyn-afk> It was designed by Advanced Micro Devices, which markets it under the name AMD64. This architecture has also been adopted under the names EM64T, IA-32e, and Intel64[1]  by Intel.
[08:56] <youser> i would have thogh t if it worked in breezy it would have camewith dapper upgrade enabled
[08:56] <xav> harisund, then apt-get source foo
[08:56] <cherubiel> youser, apt-get install tcl tk
[08:56] <harisund> xav oh .. that makes it convenient... thanks !
[08:56] <harisund> xav where do the sources get installed? I mean in which directory?
[08:56] <xav> current one
[08:56] <xav> so create one before
[08:56] <cherubiel> youser, what does ltrace amsn give ?
[08:56] <xav> and run apt-get source in it
[08:56] <youser> what does what/
[08:56] <dyn-afk> iptables is already installed in Ubuntu if I'n not mistaken
[08:57] <youser> ahh one sec
[08:57] <harisund> dyn-afk, iptables is installed. I want the source.
[08:57] <dyn-afk> you just need to set it up
[08:57] <Psychobudgie> youser,  if you are going to install amsn, I'd wait till the forums are back up
[08:57] <dyn-afk> ok, that's different :P
[08:57] <cherubiel> youser, type "ltrace amsn" and paste the results in a pastebin
[08:57] <tgelter> in this webpage (http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/initial-linux-support-for-the-5g-video-ipod-video-sync-using-gtkpod-libgpod) it says to apply a patch that can be downloaded there...to run a patch, do I just make it +x and try to run it in the same directory as the files it is supposed to modify?
[08:57] <youser> ltrace: Can't open ELF file "/usr/bin/amsn"
[08:57] <harisund> ok thanks xav..
[08:58] <Psychobudgie> youser, theres an alternative source which will provide the latest version of TCL along with AMSN which will enable anti aliasing fonts along with other things
[08:58] <cute_bettong> can anyone tell me why ubuntu dosen't see the full 256mb of ram on my geforce fx 5500?
[08:58] <Psychobudgie> youser,  theres a thread on the official forum that documents what to do
[08:58] <cherubiel> youser, do you see the binary at /usr/bin ?
[08:59] <xav> tgelter, you need to get the sources, then apply the patch using patch, then compile the program
[08:59] <ProN00b> cute_bettong, how much does it see ?
[08:59] <friendzis> would ubuntu work on 200mhz and 64mb ram?
[08:59] <cute_bettong> im not sure ProN00b but my game reports only 128
[09:00] <xav> friendzis, I wouldn't try ubuntu gnome desktop on that
[09:00] <w30> just cut and paste that to a file anc name it inittab
[09:00] <youser> yeah the file is in usr/bin
[09:00] <cute_bettong> is there a way to quiry the card to see?
[09:00] <youser> its a sh file
[09:00] <ruff|away> friendzis, not with gnome
[09:00] <xav> friendzis, a simple window manager could maybe run
[09:01] <ProN00b> friendzis, maybe xubuntu, but i wouldn't bet on it
[09:01] <ruff|away> friendzis, try fluxbuntu :D
[09:01] <friendzis> so i shouldn't even try it?
[09:01] <xav> yep
[09:01] <b03nto> friendzis: what about fluxbuntu, xubuntu still heavy...
[09:01] <xav> friendzis, try a simple window manager
[09:01] <Gabby_Hayes> friendzis  .. if you use that system, try to have two HDs .. and a swap on each HD ... helps your system
[09:01] <ruff|away> openbox is very lightweight
[09:02] <gandolfthewizar1> hi
[09:02] <youser> E: Release 'tk' for 'tcl' was not found
[09:02] <xav> friendzis, there are plenty of them. fluxbox is just one, some others are even lighter
[09:02] <Zarephath> I get this error message with subversion: svn: Can't make directory 'libsynce': No such file or directory  anyone tell me what is up?
[09:02] <ruff|away> youser, tcl8.5
[09:02] <NAuthorious> newbie having problems with getting his internet connection up and running under drapper drake
[09:02] <ruff|away> youser, tk8.5
[09:02] <gandolfthewizar1> looking for help with java
[09:02] <youser> cani apt-get those?
[09:02] <Ropechoborra> Wich is the command to upgrade to edgy ?
[09:02] <friendzis> i see
[09:03] <ruff|away> Ropechoborra, update-manager -c -d
[09:03] <b03nto> xav: what xav, i need something lighter too..
[09:03] <friendzis> this pc works quite fine under win 98
[09:03] <ruff|away> youser, u'd better do that from within synaptic
[09:03] <Zarephath> Ropechoborra: You will have to edit your repos first..then sudo apt-get distupgrade
[09:03] <xav> b03nto, lighter than what ?
[09:03] <b03nto> lighter than xubuntu...
[09:03] <xav> b03nto, you could start trying fluxbox
[09:03] <b03nto> nicer than fluxbox...
[09:03] <marshall> does anybody happen to have the rezlooks .deb lying around?
[09:04] <Ropechoborra> Zarephath it says invalid operation
[09:04] <ruff|away> Ropechoborra, alt+f2 then type in there gksudo "update-manager -c -d"
[09:04] <Zarephath> rff|away: Really...update manager can do it too?
[09:04] <youser> hmm theyre both istalled
[09:04] <Gabby_Hayes> friendzis  .. I have had a linux system on a 133 with 64Mb of ram  working at one time  (RH)
[09:04] <ruff|away> icewm is a nice alternative too
[09:04] <xav> b03nto, nicer in which area?
[09:04] <slimemonkey> what is the difference between the synaptic package manager, aptitude, and apt-get, other than just the interfaces?
[09:04] <youser> so i have tcl/tk installed but no amsn
[09:04] <Zarephath> Ropechoborra: Did you change where your repositories are pointed? try ruff|away suggestion
[09:04] <ruff|away> Zarephath, yep yep.. i've updated to edgy yesterday :D
[09:04] <Ropechoborra> Ok
[09:04] <Ropechoborra> Ty
[09:04] <cherubiel> youser, you haven't installed it??
[09:05] <agent> is having a kernel tagged #2 smp in /proc/version normal if one is without smp? don't remember this in dapper
[09:05] <youser> installed what?
[09:05] <b03nto> it has something like gnome-update-notifications
[09:05] <cherubiel> youser, amsn?
[09:05] <xav> b03nto, anyway, it's very easy to try plenty of window manager. just install them, and choose the one you want in the login manager
[09:05] <Zarephath> ruff|away: Kewl thanks...only knew the command line way until now..heh
[09:05] <youser> yes
[09:05] <youser> i have amsninstalled
[09:05] <Ropechoborra> ruff|away can i upgrade wile im using the pc ?
[09:05] <friendzis> Gabby_Hayes and it's better than win?
[09:05] <youser> i evenuninstalled and reinstalled
[09:05] <ruff|away> Ropechoborra, yep
[09:05] <Gabby_Hayes> friendzis  .. it was better than any M$  product, yes
[09:05] <Zarephath> ruff|away: Do you know if edgy will support syncing to PocketPC with Mobile 5 OS?
[09:06] <ruff|away> Zarephath, i've had problems with nautilus when i tried to update into edgy by changin' the sources.list
[09:06] <cherubiel> friendzis, whats your need dude?
[09:06] <xav> b03nto, you could try enlightenment, openbox, icewm, fvwm, windowmaker, wmii
[09:06] <ruff|away> Zarephath, yep prolly yes
[09:06] <cherubiel> friendzis, try wmaker - amazingly light, low memory footprint
[09:06] <ruff|away> windowmaker is crap
[09:06] <friendzis> cherubiel some1 said that ubuntu is quite good thing
[09:06] <ruff|away> lol
[09:06] <xav> ruff|away, why ?
[09:06] <youser> ubuntu kicks ass
[09:07] <ruff|away> too outdated
[09:07] <ruff|away> try something newer
[09:07] <youser> ive been off windows for about a month now
[09:07] <xav> ruff|away, the look is quite bad, but it's quite interesting
[09:07] <dfgas> how do i change my hostname?
[09:07] <cherubiel> ruff|away, waht are you on now??
[09:07] <ruff|away> gnome
[09:07] <LSD`> youser: could have fooled me :P
 ruff|away: Do you know if edgy will support syncing to PocketPC with Mobile 5 OS? << prolly not
[09:07] <ruff|away> got to love the gnome thingy :D
[09:07] <youser> lol
[09:07] <gandolfthewizar1> how do i install jave run time for linux
[09:07] <xav> ruff|away, there are great ideas in wmaker
[09:07] <dyn-afk> wm5 is limited to syncing with activesync and outlook on windows
[09:07] <b03nto> thanks xav, do you know how to see what i need to update from cli, something like gnome-update-notifications..?
[09:07] <youser> i hope ubuntuforums is back up soon
[09:07] <cherubiel> gandolfthewizar1, apt-get install sun-java-jre
[09:08] <friendzis> ok thanks for help :]  going to bed ;] 
[09:08] <w30> agent, same here. I don't know if there is bloat with that or not. I suppose how much extra computer you have (cpu, memory, hard drive) matters whether you want it or not. My install works fine though.
[09:08] <xav> b03nto, well, I just update on cli like you said, I don't need something like gnome-update-notifications
[09:08] <ruff|away> xav, i like openbox better :)
[09:08] <slimemonkey> gandolfthewizar1 check in the synaptic manager for sun-java-jre, apt-get works too
[09:08] <xav> b03nto, ie run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and that's it
[09:09] <LSD`> speaking of edgy, is it possible to go from 6.06 -> 6.10 just by changing your sources list?
[09:09] <agent> w30: smp = support for 2 or more processors
[09:09] <gandolfthewizar1> do i open ter and do that
[09:09] <slimemonkey> i, only recently, switched entirely to dapper..should i update to edgy?
[09:09] <ruff|away> LSD`, u'd better do a update-manager -c -d
[09:09] <b03nto> xav, yeah but i dont want to update all the stuff.. i have very slow net connection
[09:09] <LSD`> ruff|away: will check that out, thanks
[09:10] <ruff|away> yw
[09:10] <agent> w30: however, i just found out that by default, all kernels since dapper support smp regardless of whether it's used or not
[09:10] <frodo> is there a problem if i added ubuntu edgy repositories in dapper ?
[09:10] <ruffles> frodo, it depends... i tried that and got no luck
[09:10] <w30> agent, must not hurt much then.
[09:10] <agent> frodo: yes, you should not use edgy repo in dapper!
[09:11] <frodo> what happened
[09:11] <cherubiel> frodo, don't mix two releases..
[09:11] <frodo> Ok
[09:11] <ruffles> some package updates appeared and it broke my system after the update was finished
[09:11] <cherubiel> frodo, what you could try is apt pinning..
[09:11] <agent> w30: it does not... it's disabled if not used... however, i had though that ubuntu had two version of each kernel, one with smp and one without... that changed in with dapper and i never noticed
[09:11] <frodo> ill wait the new to upgrade
[09:12] <xav> cherubiel, I believe you shouldn't mix them
[09:12] <slimemonkey> what are the new features of edgy over dapper?
[09:12] <ruffles> edgy is already stable
[09:12] <slimemonkey> is edgy simply an unstable version of dapper?
[09:12] <slimemonkey> oh..
[09:12] <slimemonkey> nvm
[09:12] <ruffles> slimemonkey, it boots up faster
[09:12] <slimemonkey> ruffles: anything else?
[09:12] <gh0zt> sup
[09:12] <xav> it's still very slow to boot imo
[09:12] <ruffles> and gnome 2.16 is faster as well
[09:12] <teekay_> sup?
[09:12] <jaek> anyone know the name of that utility that uses xtest to emit key presses?
[09:12] <amonbish> sup?
[09:12] <StAfZe6> sup?
[09:12] <xav> like 1 min
[09:12] <SR`DJ-Bug> looking for a channel that discusses about XChat
[09:12] <ruffles> SlicerDicer, and some other changes but nothing really impressive
[09:12] <cherubiel> xav, apt pinning gives a mostly stable system.. atleast i have one! :)
[09:12] <agent> slimemonkey: search forum for gnome changes :) also new photo manager, etc.
[09:13] <slimemonkey> how do i check which version of the kernel i have and which version of gnome i have?
[09:13] <teekay_> you tell me
[09:13] <gh0zt> you tell me ;)
[09:13] <xav> it's possible to boot in 30/40 sec using other distro
[09:13] <amonbish> ?
[09:13] <slimemonkey> agent: oooh...
[09:13] <StAfZe6> fun
[09:13] <ruffles> slimemonkey, uname -r
[09:13] <slimemonkey> ruffles: thx
[09:13] <slimemonkey> ruffles: thats kernel edition?
[09:13] <slimemonkey> ruffles: err... verison?
[09:13] <SR`DJ-Bug> looking for a channel that discusses about XChat
[09:13] <ruffles> uname -r gives you your kernel version
[09:13] <agent> slimemonkey: your kernel version
[09:14] <b03nto> can i use something like apt-get -t edgy install <package> if i want something from edgy repo
[09:14] <nicolas> ,,
[09:14] <agent> SR`DJ-Bug: #xchat - duh? :)
[09:14] <slimemonkey> ruffles: ok cool but you mentioned something about gnome 2.6 being faster? how do i check my gnome version?
[09:14] <xav> b03nto, again, you shouldn't mix the two
[09:14] <nicolas> hi everybody
[09:14] <ruffles> slimemonkey, if you're runnin' dapper you got 2.14
[09:14] <xav> b03nto, that's what backports are for
[09:14] <ruffles> slimemonkey, system / about gnome
[09:14] <slimemonkey> ruffles: ok..is there a way to up[date though?
[09:15] <ruffles> slimemonkey, only if you update into edgy
[09:15] <xav> b03nto, you need to recompile the newer programs against your system
[09:15] <slimemonkey> ruffles; ok thx
[09:15] <cherubiel> b03nto: apt pinning,
[09:15] <nicolas> i got a serious prob with key config so,ebody please help
[09:15] <agent> slimemonkey: gnome-about for gnome version
[09:15] <cherubiel> xav: http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html
[09:15] <slimemonkey> agent: ok
[09:15] <nicolas> a insted of q
[09:15] <b03nto> cherubiel, yes something like that
[09:16] <agent> slimemonkey: or click system -> about gnome :)
[09:16] <nicolas> , insted of m
[09:16] <cherubiel> b03nto: it works.
[09:16] <slimemonkey> agent: ok got it. 2.14..(with dapper)
[09:16] <agent> slimemonkey: 2.16.1 with edgy (so far)
[09:16] <ruffles> slimemonkey, to update to edgy: alt+f2 / gksudo "update-manager -c -d"
[09:16] <cherubiel> the ozzman cometh :)
[09:17] <slimemonkey> when upgrading the distro to edgy...will i need to refrain from using my comp?
[09:17] <acc3ss> Does anybody know how to set up my network after installing?
[09:17] <sinizzl> hello
[09:17] <agent> ruffles: better to give out the official upgrade wiki
[09:17] <slimemonkey> ruffles: when upgrading my distro...can i still work?
[09:17] <ruffles> agent, i dunno it though
[09:17] <jrib> slimemonkey: only to resume it when it breaks :)  But yeah you can use other stuff while you upgrade
[09:17] <ruffles> slimemonkey, yep you can
[09:17] <agent> slimemonkey: its best not to use your comp... it will be 100cpu once it starts installing :D
[09:17] <sinizzl> what is the straightest way to install the newest nvidia drivers on edgy eft? the "standard" one is 1.0-8774 but i want the 1.0-9XXX series
[09:18] <jrib> !edgy
[09:18] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:18] <gyhu> !schedule
[09:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:18] <swartz> Anyone know how to stop GNOME from showing mounts on the Desktop?
[09:18] <agent> ruffles: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[09:18] <agent> slimemonkey: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[09:18] <ruffles> agent, thanks :D
[09:18] <b03nto> cherubiel: thanks for the info, so i just need to create /etc/apt/preferences
[09:19] <cherubiel> b03nto: yes.
[09:19] <dyn-afk> swartz you need to open gconf (which you can do wilt alt-f2 and then type gconf)
[09:19] <acc3ss> I used the alternate CD to install Ubuntu, and at the time my computer wasn't connected to the internet so I selected "set up network at a later time". How should I go about configuring it now?
[09:19] <agent> !upgrade
[09:19] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:19] <cherubiel> b03nto: and follow the usage pattern
[09:19] <Clarrisa> I have SSL working great with apache, but I need a good HowTo on the easiest way to add password authentication to it.  Have any good ones you can point me to?
[09:19] <swartz> I'm there.
[09:19] <eracc> Hmmm, is there a network install option for *buntu that runs over the internet from repositories? FWIW, that is how I installed most of my Mandriva systems and want to do the same with xubuntu, et al.
[09:19] <dyn-afk> when gconf is open go to apps > nautilus > desktop and unmark "volumes visable"
[09:19] <jrib> !install
[09:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:20] <swartz> Sweet!  Thanks, bro!
[09:20] <b03nto> okay cherubiel, its good to know this trick...
[09:20] <agent> !edgy
[09:20] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:20] <dyn-afk> there is a disadvantage about disabling that function though swartz
[09:20] <acc3ss> !schedule
[09:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:20] <swartz> It worked good for Gentoo, what is it?
[09:20] <dyn-afk> you need to go to places > computer
[09:20] <xav> b03nto, cherubiel maybe it can work. just be aware it might be problematic, in case something screw up
[09:20] <swartz> I forgot the path.
[09:20] <youser> i need wish running for amsn to work right?
[09:20] <acc3ss> !network
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about network - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <dyn-afk> if you want to be able to unmount something like an usb drive
[09:20] <cherubiel> i agree xav its risky,
[09:20] <eracc> Hmmm, I looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation and didn't see the answer. Guess I will go look again.
[09:20] <gandolfthewizar1> how do i get java again
[09:21] <swartz> Nope, Disk Mounter's got that covered.
[09:21] <Yggdrasil> does anyone know anything about this: Ethernet controller: Sundance Technology Inc: Unknown device 0200 (
[09:21] <cherubiel> gandolfthewizar1: apt-get install sun-java*
[09:21] <ruffles> Yggdrasil, i've had tons of trouble with this card
[09:21] <cherubiel> gandolfthewizar1: it grabs *everything*
[09:21] <gandolfthewizar1> were do type that
[09:21] <cherubiel> gandolfthewizar1: open up a terminal or switch to a vc
[09:21] <ruffles> Yggdrasil, so i bought another one with realtek chipset and vo-l
[09:21] <jrib> ubotu: tell gandolfthewizar1 about java
[09:21] <b03nto> dont worry xav, im not gonna use it now, maybe if i get bored :)
[09:22] <Yggdrasil> ruffles hmm fresh install. its an onboard card. yea i stuck another card in there allready to work on the box but jsut curious.. pice of junk then huh
[09:22] <youser> what sucks is having to remount your windows hard drive every time you restart ubuntu
[09:22] <jrib> youser: put it in fstab
[09:22] <ruffles> Yggdrasil, yep.. its driver only works on specific kernel versions
[09:22] <jrib> ubotu: tell youser about ntfs
 Nope, Disk Mounter's got that covered. << nice :)
[09:22] <Yggdrasil> can we mount up ntfs drives ?
[09:22] <cherubiel> youser: enter it into /etc/fstab
[09:22] <Yggdrasil> ruffles thank ill just leave it be then.
[09:22] <ruffles> Yggdrasil, yep
[09:23] <danny_> IM having problems getting my sansa mp3 player to mount with ubuntu anyone have any ideas? My other external drive mounts fine but not mp3 player
[09:23] <Yggdrasil> until more is worked out for it.. never heard of it before
[09:23] <gandolfthewizar1> this is what i get wqhen i do that
[09:23] <Yggdrasil> ruffles yep to which ?
[09:23] <Yggdrasil> haha
[09:23] <gandolfthewizar1> Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/l
[09:23] <dyn-afk> yggdrasil...hmmz, almost thought you were the server from work
[09:23] <cherubiel> gandolfthewizar1: sudo apt-get install sun-java*
[09:23] <ruffles> Yggdrasil, u can mount ntfs drivers
[09:23] <ruffles> drives
[09:23] <Yggdrasil> ahh yea right.. can you mount em r,w ywt ?
[09:24] <youser> so i just windows the driveinformation and put it inwith the rest of the stuff in my fstab?
[09:24] <cherubiel> !ntfs
[09:24] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:24] <youser> cucurrently my windows hard drive doesnt show up in there
[09:24] <cherubiel> youser: yep
[09:24] <youser> cool
[09:24] <jrib> danny_: I /think/ (I don't own one) that you can set the sansa to use different modes.  Is it set to act like a usb storage device?
[09:24] <ruffles> Yggdrasil, well.. u can.. but u'll need some tweaking
[09:24] <Yggdrasil> ahh last time i checked i was told it was dangerous to do
[09:24] <danny_> jrib, im not sure ill see if it will let me change the nodes inside it
[09:25] <danny_> that is how it worked with windows thogh as usb storage device
[09:25] <firstc520> has anyone here gotten an ATI radeon xpress 200m   3d accell to work for them?
[09:25] <Normal> When using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, Should I stick with the default video card bus identifier(PCI:7:0:0)? Would changing this somehow fix  me not being able to use my graphics accelerator?
[09:25] <danny_> jrib, there is a msc and mtp usb mode in the player
[09:25] <ubuntuJFP> gandolfthewizard: perm denied on lock file : you are not root to remove the 'lock' leftover from a previous dpkg abruptly stopped
[09:25] <gandolfthewizar1> can't find it
[09:25] <host`> what's a good media player that supports lots of different formats?
[09:26] <jrib> danny_: I don't know what those mean so just try the other one :)
[09:26] <cherubiel> host`: mplayer
[09:26] <Xal> VLC
[09:26] <danny_> ok ill play around with that a bit for now, thanks
[09:26] <jrib> danny_: http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:WDF8mA0HNHUJ:www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-235700.html+mount+sansa+ubuntu&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2 msc is what you want
[09:26] <gandolfthewizar1> so how do i get read of the lock?
[09:27] <danny_> ok thanks jrib
[09:27] <ruffles> VLC rulz!
[09:27] <ruffles> :D
[09:27] <Clarrisa> Survey:  What folders do you have in your linux path?
[09:27] <jrib> danny_: I was thinking of buying one actually, how is it?  Are you satisfied with it?
[09:27] <ubuntuJFP> gandolfthewizard: su root then rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock to delete the file
[09:28] <gandolfthewizar1> this is what it tells me
[09:29] <gandolfthewizar1> albert@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install sun-java*
[09:29] <gandolfthewizar1> Reading package lists... Done
[09:29] <gandolfthewizar1> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:29] <gandolfthewizar1> E: Couldn't find package sun-java*
[09:29] <ronnie> anyone around that can help me out?
[09:29] <paul0> hi
[09:29] <ronnie> hello
[09:29] <paul0> someone is using apt-build in amd64?
[09:29] <Mercer> gandolf, you can't use wildcards.
[09:29] <Yggdrasil> so basicly to get ntfs you need to compile a kernel with r.w support huh ?
[09:29] <ronnie> trying to figure out how to usgrade my system without downloading and burning a new cd
[09:30] <faisal_d> evening all
[09:30] <jrib> ubotu: tell ronnie about upgrade
[09:30] <jrib> ubotu: tell gandolfthewizar1 about paste
[09:30] <gandolfthewizar1> i have no clue what you are sying lol
[09:30] <jrib> gandolfthewizar1: when someone tells ubotu to tell you something, ubotu should send you a private message with information to help you
[09:30] <highneko> !flash
[09:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:30] <hardkaare> has anyone got xen running with winxp as guest?
[09:31] <ronnie> no message was sent
[09:31] <hardkaare> I would like to play some games under ubuntu, but wine cant handle them yet
[09:31] <acc3ss> Some games run on wine.
[09:31] <acc3ss> I know StarCraft does. =D
[09:31] <faisal_d> i have dapper installed, and my mouse keeps on disconnecting... i have to unplug it and replug it for it to work, any ideas how to get rid of that?
[09:32] <cherubiel> gandolfthewizar1: try apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[09:32] <sredojevics> How great artwork will be for Ubuntu 6.10 release, congrats to all involved!
[09:32] <cherubiel> hardkaare: use cedega
[09:32] <youser> noone knows  about my amsn problem huh?
[09:32] <acc3ss> Does anybody know if I can use my wireless laptop to transfer the internet connection through a cable to my desktop?
[09:32] <cherubiel> !cegeda
[09:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cegeda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:32] <faisal_d> !cedega
[09:32] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[09:33] <eracc> For a network install this is all I see <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot> but is not what I want. The other URLS given me by the invocation of !install with ubotu also do not tell me if I can do a network install off an internet repository using a *buntu boot diskette or CD.
[09:33] <cherubiel> :)
[09:33] <faisal_d> :)
[09:33] <youser> i tried crossover office last night
[09:33] <youser> it fucking sucked
[09:33] <eracc> So, someone want to take a stab at answering instead of just using the bot? :-)
[09:33] <youser> halfway through instalation i cancelled it
[09:33] <faisal_d> youser, you didn't like an application that you didn't try???
[09:33] <sureshot> hey my kids are watchin please watch the language
[09:34] <youser> it wanted me to find netscape to install shockwave
[09:34] <youser> i needed it on mozilla
[09:34] <youser> said i couldtgo further till i found my netscape plugins
[09:34] <youser> which i didnt have netscape anywhere
[09:34] <gandolfthewizar1> still no
[09:34] <ubuntuJFP> acc3ss: sounds more an IpCop job... I am right ?
[09:34] <annette> ubuntu en adsl tijdsurfen van hetnet; gaat dit lukken??
[09:34] <ProN00b> can anyone give me a xorg.conf for nvidia dualscreen ?
[09:35] <cherubiel> !nl
[09:35] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[09:35] <acc3ss> I don't know. I just want to connect my other desktop to the internet using my laptop as a wireless receiver, essentially.
[09:35] <youser> lol
[09:35] <Hoxzer> how do I ran a program in second x?
[09:35] <bdf> hm, I've got a weird issue with screen and nucurses and what appears to be utf-8, basically screen is ignoring line characters such as those used in aptitude
[09:35] <gandolfthewizar1> i had it last night but i forgot what i did to get it
[09:35] <youser> ahh sorry about the language
[09:36] <bdf> any ideas?
[09:36] <hardkaare> cherubiel: are you using it?
[09:36] <sureshot> eracc hey what up man
[09:36] <ubuntuJFP> acc3ss: Have a look at ipcop then with all the security issues addressed in Blue interface, Green and Red ones..
[09:36] <youser> ltrace: Can't open ELF file "/usr/bin/amsn"??
[09:36] <eracc> Hi sureshot. Trying to find a way to do an internet install of *buntu off a boot CD. :-)
[09:36] <jrib> eracc: is this what you want? http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Netinstall
[09:36] <deltab> bdf: ignoring?
[09:36] <acc3ss> ubuntuJFP: Thanks.
[09:36] <acc3ss> !ipcop
[09:37] <eracc> jrib, I'll look thanks.,
[09:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipcop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <bdf> deltab: yeah, it repaces them with a weird character
[09:37] <sureshot> eracc never have done that sorry i wish i could help
[09:37] <cherubiel> youser: pm ?
[09:37] <bdf> replaces*
[09:37] <youser> you never answered me
[09:37] <cherubiel> youser: are you registersed?
[09:38] <cherubiel> !register
[09:38] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:38] <youser> no im not regstered but i willg o do that now
[09:39] <gandolfthewizar1> i am still getting the same error
[09:39] <acc3ss> Why refer to it as *buntu?
[09:39] <cherubiel> youser: you won't get any pms unless you register
[09:39] <jrib> gandolfthewizar1: which error?
[09:39] <youser> u pmed me first and said hey?
[09:39] <pippijn> hi all
[09:39] <gandolfthewizar1> can't find the java files
[09:39] <gandolfthewizar1> when i go and get apt
[09:39] <jrib> gandolfthewizar1: have you enabled multiverse?
[09:39] <freddybidouille> salut
[09:39] <freddybidouille> tout le monde
[09:39] <freddybidouille> en forme?
[09:39] <jrib> !fr
[09:39] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:39] <Normal> I had 1152x768 last night(my native's 1440x900, but i'll take any widescreen res), but when I rebooted, it's back to 1024x768..What do I do?
[09:40] <jaux> hi, could anyone help me about my "GWGET"?
[09:40] <jrib> !ask
[09:40] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:40] <youser>      /msg nickserv set hide email on
[09:40] <faisal_d> Normal, did you modify your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[09:40] <pippijn> my broadcom network card can't seem to connect to the network
[09:41] <paul0> libsdl1.2-dev: Depends: libsdl1.2debian (= 1.2.9-0.0ubuntu2) but 1.2.10-3ubuntu1 is to be installed
[09:41] <paul0> how do i fix that?
[09:41] <Normal> Last night(to get the widescreen res), but not since(until just now trying to fix it)
[09:41] <pippijn> I gave it its ip, gateway, subnet mask and everything
[09:41] <pippijn> it just doesn'T connect
[09:41] <Jowi> paul0: you have conflicting sourses in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:41] <pippijn> suse does th esame thing
[09:41] <pippijn> debian too
[09:41] <Gabby_Hayes> gandolfthewizar1  ..  look at   http://ubuntu.guide.org/wiki/Dapper    for help with java and other things
[09:41] <pippijn> but in gentoo it works
[09:41] <pippijn> strangely
[09:42] <Flannel> !tell gandolfthewizar1 about java
[09:42] <pippijn> even from the standard livecd
[09:42] <jrib> paul0: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[09:42] <faisal_d> Normal, can you check your config file if it does contains the correct res?
[09:42] <gandolfthewizar1> ok i think i have it now sorry i ws half asleep yesterday when i tryed to  get that
[09:42] <youser> lol  think imr egistered now
[09:42] <susi_> HI all
[09:42] <jaux> I can't make GWGET work, it always gives me error msg "ERROR: unknown error", could anyone help me about that?
[09:42] <Jowi> youser: yes you are
[09:42] <youser> thanks :)
[09:43] <paul0> jrib: http://rafb.net/paste/results/LKd1Mx72.html
[09:43] <jrib> jaux: what command are you issuing?
[09:43] <TripleC> hi there. can I use XGl / compiz with an nvidia FX5200 chip?
[09:43] <youser> maybe now i can get help gettingmy msn working
[09:43] <youser> lol
[09:43] <Flannel> TripleC: probably.  #ubuntu-xgl
[09:43] <TripleC> need a new, cheap and simple vga card
[09:43] <paul0> jrib: i've tried to get the libsdl from edgy repository, got the same error
[09:43] <TripleC> Flannel: thx
[09:43] <faisal_d> anybody had problems with USB mice that keep disconnecting?
[09:43] <jrib> paul0: remove the edgy repo that is bound to cause problems
[09:43] <Normal> The only display options I have in my xorg.conf are 1440x900 and 1152x768
[09:44] <anon32> synaptic reports WINE as being a 8.8MB download, is something wrong with my head? that doesn't sound right
[09:44] <paul0> jrib: i've added it before got this error, and i still get it
[09:44] <jrib> paul0: can you remove it and pastebin the new error you get?
[09:44] <jaux> jrib: gwget
[09:44] <Bazzi> anon32: it was 9mb for me (edgy) I think
[09:44] <eegore|uby> Could someone help me with a minor sound issue?
[09:44] <Flannel> info wine
[09:44] <eracc> jrib, sureshot, I'm looking for something in *buntu that works similar to this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26004/ (note that one can do an install off FTP or HTTP distribution mirrors with the methods shown here)
[09:45] <Flannel> anon32: nope, 8mb looks right
[09:45] <anon32> really? I was suspicious since I remember cygwin as being like 200MB...
[09:45] <eracc> So far I am not finding this with *buntu.
[09:45] <Flannel> !tell eracc about install
[09:46] <jrib> jaux: strange, did it ever work?
[09:46] <Jowi> paul0: maybe it will help if you use the same server for main, universe and multiverse
[09:46] <eracc> Flannel, I've seen that many times. The bot does not know the answer. :-)
[09:46] <Flannel> eracc: theres various methods there, including a netboot one
[09:46] <eracc> Flannel, the netboot is for booting a system OFF a network. Like a diskless box. Not what I need.
[09:46] <paul0> Jowi: i think i forgot using "apt-get update" when i've added the edgy repository
[09:46] <faisal_d> Normal, what res are you getting now?
[09:46] <Flannel> eracc: no, it's for installing over the network.
[09:47] <Flannel> eracc: that entire page is about installation
[09:47] <nex_> beryl i love you!
[09:47] <nex_> wow
[09:47] <jaux> jrib: I tried several times, but it only works when I am trying to download a image from flickr
[09:47] <eracc> Flannel, ok, I have that page up and I'm not seeing the answer. I'll re-read it again. :-/
[09:47] <nex_> no more windows for me
[09:47] <nex_> ubuntu 4 ever
[09:47] <gnomefreak> paul0: please move talk about edgy to #ubuntu+1
[09:47] <Flannel> eracc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[09:47] <jaux> jrib: otherwise, it doesn't work at all
[09:47] <eracc> Flannel, I have that page up.
[09:48] <jrib> jaux: if you run 'gwget' from a terminal does it open?
[09:48] <jaux> jrib: yes
[09:48] <eracc> Flannel, I've read it several times in the last week and apparently cannot see the magic answer. :-)
[09:48] <jrib> jaux: oh oh, so the problem is with downloading specific files
[09:48] <oxygene_> hi. what's the most elegant way to set $TERM to xterm-color? i even think this should be default in ubuntu
[09:48] <jaux> jrib: but it can't download anything except an image from flickr
[09:48] <Ciaus> forums r back up
[09:48] <Ronz> hey, im having a time trying to get my 6800GT up and running. i have had it up and running in the past, but had to do a reinstall. it keeps comming up with "failed to load nvidia kernel module." anyone have an idea?
[09:48] <oxygene_> in order to get a colored prompt
[09:49] <Flannel> eracc: what magic answer?  you want to install over the network.
[09:49] <Ronz> oh yea, have also installed nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common
[09:49] <jrib> jaux: does it give you any errors in the terminal when it fails?
[09:49] <mipstien> im tryin to get multiple sounds working right now on dapper drake, i'd like to see someone else asound.conf file so i can confirm if mine is correct or not
[09:49] <Flannel> eracc: follow the steps on that page, and you'll have an installation
[09:49] <sureshot> eracc i will look at this not sorry the inlaws were here grrrrrr
[09:49] <gandolfthewizar1> i still can't get it
[09:49] <eracc> Flannel, I want to install from one of the internet mirrors using a bootable install CD. If that page has the answer I'm just not seeing it.
[09:49] <jrib> gandolfthewizar1: join me in #ubuntu-classroom, I will walk you through it
[09:50] <Ronz> join #nvidia
[09:50] <Ronz> disregard...;)
[09:50] <nikin> hy
[09:50] <ProN00b> jaux, do you have wget installed ?
[09:50] <mipstien> im tryin to get multiple sounds working right now on dapper drake, i'd like to see someone else asound.conf file so i can confirm if mine is correct or not
[09:50] <jaux> ProNOOb: yes, I have it
[09:50] <nikin> anyone any experience with lazarus 0.9.18 on Ubuntu?
[09:51] <Jowi> mipstien: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26005/
[09:51] <jrib> gandolfthewizar1: you know how to join #ubuntu-classroom?
[09:52] <sureshot> eracc does ubuntu have a mirror for install images it would work the same way the boot floppy would connect to the internet bring down the image
[09:52] <Ronz> hey, im having a time trying to get my 6800GT up and running. i have had it up and running in the past, but had to do a reinstall. it keeps comming up with "failed to load nvidia kernel module." anyone have an idea?
[09:52] <sureshot> eracc do no know if ubuntu has such an image
[09:52] <Normal> Is there a driver besides nv that will work with a 7600GT?
[09:53] <Ronz> Normal, nvidia
[09:53] <Normal> I can't use that one
[09:53] <eracc> sureshot, yeah, I know. I am trying to find out if I can do this with *buntu. If not then I want to ask The Powers That Be to put it in place. :-)
[09:53] <Ronz> did you sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx?
[09:53] <foo> How can I make a bunzip2 with max compression?
[09:53] <mipstien> jowi, thank you@!
[09:53] <q_a_z_steve> why doesn't my sound work to play mp3's? I can listen to the radio via rhythmbox...
[09:53] <Jowi> np mipstien
[09:53] <foo> I can't seem to find it in the man page
[09:53] <Normal> You have to use 2.6.15 somethin and I can only boot with 2.6.12
[09:53] <jrib> ubotu: tell q_a_z_steve about mp3
[09:53] <gandolfthewizar1> i still cant get it to work
[09:54] <Luakagon> How do I open a .lzh file?
[09:54] <jrib> gandolfthewizar1: I understand, I will help walk you through all of the steps if you join #ubuntu-classroom.  There is less traffic there, so it is easier to help
[09:54] <Luakagon> lilo died? :'(
[09:54] <Ronz> Normal, have you upgraded your kernel?
[09:54] <mipstien> jowi, unfortunantly im not sure what is wrong with my sound it doesn't come out multiple sources :(
[09:54] <jaux> jrib: when I run gwget from termial, I got"** (Gwget:4218): CRITICAL **: view_selection_func: assertion `gwget_data_get_selected()!=NULL' failed
[09:54] <jaux> "
[09:55] <Normal> I can't, any kernel besides 2.6.12 won't boot
[09:55] <sportman> umm where would i talk about issues with edgy?
[09:55] <jrib> sportman: #ubuntu+1
[09:55] <jaux> jrib: and in the gwget window, it says "ERROR: Unknown error"
[09:55] <faisal_d> !edgy
[09:55] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:55] <sportman> thanks
[09:55] <sureshot> eracc that is the question because you may be able to edit that boot floppy for mandrak to to that same for ubuntu if there is an image if you read on how the image is done you could do it on your own lan
[09:55] <eracc> I've done dozens of internet installs of Mandr* using their boot.iso CD image. It boots then gives me the option of installing off NFS, FTP or HTTPS. The last two can use distribution mirrors with an internet connection.
[09:55] <sportman> just a quick question non edgy related
[09:56] <jrib> jaux: that error pops up in the terminal everytime you get the "unknown error"?  Or does it only show up once when you start gwget?
[09:56] <sportman> um when i go to uninstall the totem mozilla plugin
[09:56] <Normal> I had to do a runaround just to get dapper installed, and most things I wanted to do are now not possible(3d modeling, anything sound)
[09:56] <sportman> in synaptic it adds ubuntu-desktop to the uninstall list
[09:56] <sportman> :(
[09:56] <jrib> ubotu: tell sportman about ubuntu-desktop
[09:56] <Jowi> mipstien: save that as .asoundrc in your /home/user dir. should work fine. also make sure you use alsa as default output sink. if you use esd, kill it (killall esd).
[09:56] <eracc> er, HTTP, not HTTPS. :-)
[09:56] <sportman> anything i can do?
[09:56] <jrib> sportman: check your private messages from ubotu
[09:56] <jaux> jrib: only show up once when I type in the command
[09:56] <sportman> ah true
[09:56] <sportman> thanks jrib
[09:56] <sportman> :)
[09:57] <faisal_d> sportman, can you share the answer? i never knew the answer for hta one!!
[09:57] <sportman> you can remove it
[09:57] <Eleaf> now there is 100000
[09:57] <jrib> eh?
[09:57] <Eleaf> nothing!
[09:57] <gandolfthewizar1> i have enabled univers and the other one to but i still can't the java runtime
[09:57] <jaux> jrib: I was trying to download "http://superb-west.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/drjava/drjava-stable-20060918-1737.jar"
[09:58] <jrib> gandolfthewizar1: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:58] <foo> I installed something with ubuntu and it installed a new kernel. How can I delete the kernel? dpkg -l|grep -i kernel and then apt-get remove .. ?
[09:58] <Normal> Neither Dapper desktop, Edgy Desktop, or Edgy Alternate will load(they all freeze)
[09:58] <q_a_z_steve> okay, what about this PSM that Mozilla is asking for? Never heard of it and apt-cache pkgnames has nothing either
[09:59] <Ronz> hey, im having a time trying to get my 6800GT up and running. i have had it up and running in the past, but had to do a reinstall. it keeps comming up with "failed to load nvidia kernel module." anyone have an idea?
[09:59] <sureshot> eracc do you have a home network
[09:59] <jrib> jaux: hmm not really sure what is happening jaux, sorry
[09:59] <gandolfthewizar1> i had it yesterday i just don't know why i can't get it now
[09:59] <highneko> When starting apps I see an animated outline just before the window starts. How's this removed?
[09:59] <eracc> sureshot, heh, yeah. I have multiple PCs. I run a SOHO computer sales and consulting biz. ;-)
[09:59] <Jowi> gandolfthewizar1: make sure you have multiverse in your repos. then -> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[09:59] <sureshot> eracc whare are you located my man
[10:00] <eracc> sureshot, Tennessee, USA
[10:00] <jaux> jrib: all right, thank you anyway, I am going to try whether my wget is working or not
[10:00] <sureshot> eracc bummers i live in a third wold country call ohio
[10:00] <sureshot> lol
[10:00] <eracc> sureshot, we established that a few days ago. ;-)
[10:00] <Ronz> anyone that can help with nvidia drivers?
[10:01] <hardkaare> is anyone running edgy,xen and winxp/vista?
[10:01] <sureshot> eracc sorry did not remember
[10:01] <slimemonkey> instead of using an IDE for java development, can i just type the code into a text editor and then compile through console window?
[10:01] <Jowi> hardkaare: ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:01] <sureshot> eracc if you set this up and have a boot prom on your network card you can boot right off your lan it is a little slower but you can do this
[10:02] <hardkaare> Jowi: oki thx
[10:02] <slimemonkey> i installed the jdk....and installed eclipse, but its a pain
[10:02] <slimemonkey> so any command line compilers that would come in handy?
[10:02] <slimemonkey> also, eclipse comes with a java compiler right?
[10:02] <eracc> sureshot, yes, I know. That is not what I want but thanks for the suggestion.
[10:02] <Buglouse> does anyone use the X-Away v1.4 Script on Ubuntu Drapper?
[10:02] <Buglouse> I keep getting the Error: Error in command callback Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference at (eval 1) line 731
[10:03] <Ronz> slimemonkey, you can use sun-java-jdk
[10:03] <GoldKeeper> is there a way to upgrade my system from ubuntu to ubuntu edgy ?
[10:03] <slimemonkey> Ronz: i isntalled that....but how can i use it? you mean as a compiler?
[10:03] <faisal_d> that's strange... i just did sudo apt-get update, and it failed because "not in gzip format"!!
[10:03] <jrib> GoldKeeper: you realize edgy is still in development and may break your system?
[10:03] <eracc> sureshot, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26006/ ;-)
[10:03] <GoldKeeper> ehh
[10:03] <boink> !edgy
[10:03] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[10:03] <GoldKeeper> maybe not then
[10:04] <sureshot> eracc i now wyat you mean but if you can do that with your lan you would have a head start on what you need to do
[10:04] <boink> it will be released at the end of the month, if all goes well
[10:04] <jaux> ProN00b: are you still there? My wget works just fine, but gwget doesn't work at all
[10:04] <GoldKeeper> thats not to long of a wait then
[10:04] <Ronz> slimemonkey, hold on
[10:04] <slimemonkey> Ronz ok..
[10:04] <ProN00b> jaux, did you try loading the same link with wget and gwget ?
[10:04] <eracc> sureshot, I'll probably do that eventually. But I would still like the internet option for when I am at some other place doing an install. :-)
[10:05] <jaux> ProN00b, yes, the same link
[10:05] <Xal> What is a nice LInux CPU stress tester?
[10:05] <labanux> is there any canon pixma ip1600 driver for ubuntu?
[10:05] <ProN00b> jaux, does wget act strange somehow ?
[10:05] <Ronz> slimemonkey, run this command to select the sun-java-jdk.     sudo update-alternatives --config java
[10:05] <labanux> i've already looking around., but still finf nothing at all
[10:05] <sureshot> eracc i unerstand .. and sorry about the repeat but i dont remember things like i used to to many pain med and to old LOLOLOLOL
[10:05] <jaux> ProN00b, no, it works as normal
[10:05] <slimemonkey> Ronz: waitwait..what does this do?
[10:06] <eracc> sureshot, no problem brother. :-)
[10:06] <slimemonkey> Ronz: i am looking for a command line way to compile...without the hassle of usingheavy weight IDEs...
[10:06] <slimemonkey> Ronz: is this the same thing?
[10:06] <Ronz> slimemonkey, that makes it so you can select sun-jdk as your main compiler when you run java commands. ie, java <prog>
[10:06] <ProN00b> jaux, dunno then
[10:06] <Ronz> slimemonkey, yes
[10:06] <Ronz> slimemonkey, this is the command like way of doing it
[10:06] <slimemonkey> Ronz: ohhhhh ok thx!
[10:06] <jaux> ProN00b, thank you anyway
[10:06] <sureshot> eracc nice to know you have  computer store thouth might need a few things here soon rather buy off a friend than micro center
[10:07] <Ronz> brb
[10:07] <mart_> hi, anyone know of a reason why i now only have one workspace?
[10:07] <KDan> ok... if i have a directory that's not executable to world, but is executable to group abcd... and i have added that group to user 'dan'... i should be able to cd to that directory right?
[10:07] <mart_> i used to have 4, now only one works for no reason
[10:07] <slimemonkey> Ronz: um...now i have a list to choose from...
[10:07] <Gavrila> sorry for the OT, anyone knows a channel of columbia universit students?
[10:07] <slimemonkey> Ronz: list of 3 things..?
[10:07] <eracc> sureshot, just go to my web site to get in contact with me.
[10:07] <faisal_d> mart_ just add desktop switcher to your panel
[10:08] <Gavrila> and by the way is there any repository for gnome 2.16 on dapper?
[10:08] <sureshot> eracc what is the url
[10:08] <slimemonkey> Ronz: do i pick the java-1.5.0-sun/jre/... one?
[10:08] <eracc> sureshot, www.eracc.com, what else? ;-)
[10:08] <mart_> i get an error... lemme write it in
[10:08] <mart_> Failed: Failed: Schema `/schemas/apps
[10:08] <mart_> workspace_switcher_applet/pref
[10:08] <sureshot> eracc should have thought of that dumb me LOLOLOLOL
[10:08] <mart_> display_workspace_names' specified for `/apps/panel
[10:08] <mart_> thats when i go to preferences
[10:08] <faisal_d> mart_ use paste bin for long pastes
[10:09] <mart_> sorry, only those lines
[10:09] <faisal_d> np.. usually if it's more than two lines, you use a paste bin :)
[10:09] <mart_> my bad
[10:09] <faisal_d> not at all :)
[10:09] <slimemonkey> Ronz: nvm...i think i am slowly getting this figured out. thank you for your help.
[10:09] <Ronz> im having problems with my nvidia video drivers....is there anyone that can help me? lol
[10:09] <mart_> wierd that it does that though, its been working fine
[10:10] <sureshot> eracc have i asked your age
[10:10] <eracc> sureshot, 46
[10:10] <Ronz> i have run nvidia-xconfig, but it kicks back an error of "failed to load nvidia kernel module"
[10:10] <sureshot> eracc gee man you are older than me
[10:10] <sureshot> eracc just 2 years
[10:10] <Ronz> slimemonkey, if you need any more java help, leme know. just configured it bout 10 min ago. ;)
[10:10] <slimemonkey> Ronz: oh ok. thx.
[10:11] <Ronz> np
[10:11] <ubuntuJFP> Hi all ! anyone with a Dapper 6.06 booting from hd wit a ASUS P5GD1 m/b ?
[10:11] <eracc> Heh, sureshot,  I've also been working with Unix-like systems (starting with Xenix) since 1988. :-)
[10:12] <sureshot> eracc i always wanted a trs80 mod 2 with xenix i may have had a different path in life
[10:12] <eracc> sureshot, Our SOHO business file server was running Unixware 7 until SCO decided to implode. Then I switched us to FreeBSD.
[10:13] <KDan> do you need to do anything to flush group memberships on unix, after using gpasswd to add a user to a group?
[10:13] <sureshot> eracc is not sco microsoft stuff
[10:13] <Buglouse> Does anyone have experiance with ShoutCast Servers?  I would like to find a client that allows me to connect to a ShoutCast Server!
[10:13] <KDan> somehow "groups" is still not telling me that i belong to the group i selected
[10:13] <KDan> even though if i do "groups dan" it does
[10:14] <eracc> sureshot, not really. SCO bought Xenix from Micro$oft. The whole history is out on the WWW if you really want to know.
[10:14] <Jowi> Buglouse: streamtuner is nifty (uses xmms to play te streams though)
[10:14] <hemppa> KDan: you need to log out/in
[10:15] <sureshot> eracc not really inportand but hey have been slowy switching to linux for a while yet
[10:15] <KDan> hemppa: argh... all my screen sessions?
[10:15] <Gabby_Hayes> sureshot  .. I have a TRS 80 model 16 .. with two 8-inch floppy drives  (a MC68000 & a  Z80  dual cpu system)  :-)
[10:15] <Graig> hey, when is the new version of ubuntu coming out?
[10:16] <Graig> it's supposed to be october.  has edgy been released already?
[10:16] <Ramunas> Graig:  28th of October IIRC
[10:16] <hemppa> KDan: i'm not 100% sure but i think that it would solve group problem
[10:16] <eracc> sureshot, good for you!
[10:16] <Graig> ok thanks.
[10:16] <sureshot> Gabby you luck dude have not had the money but been wanting to start a computer museam
[10:16] <Ramunas> Graig:  oh sorry, its 26th
[10:16] <sethk> Graig, it isn't supposed to be october, it is october.  but you meant edgy was supposed to be released in october.  :)
[10:17] <Graig> is there a way i can get a more recent version of f-spot?
[10:17] <eegore|uby> how well is the racket raid 2320 supported
[10:17] <Ramunas> Graig:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[10:17] <mwe> sethk: 
[10:17] <Graig> thanks.
[10:17] <KDan> hemppa: it did!
[10:17] <sureshot> eracc i learned cobal basic and fortran on a trs80 mod 3 and 4 lolol
[10:18] <KDan> and it didn't even wipe out my sudo privileges in the process
[10:18] <KDan> phew
[10:18] <hemppa> :)
[10:18] <Ronz> is anyone having problems with nvidia drivers?
[10:18] <darkhaze> is there any OP here?
[10:19] <boink> you want half an op?
[10:19] <reverie> Anyone hwere own a motherboard with an Nvidia Nforce 3 250 chispet?
[10:19] <darkhaze> i need to talk to an op or halfop
[10:19] <Ronz> 2 half's make a whole
[10:19] <hicham> there is a repository for the nvidia drivers search for it
[10:19] <darkhaze> cos my friend got banned here. and he asked me to explain what happened
[10:19] <Zoffix> Is it possible to set up some keyboard shortcut to run a specified command?
[10:19] <boink> banns aren't explained here
[10:19] <sureshot> 3 thirds make a hole as well do i here 4
[10:19] <darkhaze> he was running windows and a scrip called peace and protection.
[10:20] <darkhaze> boink: so how can i do this favor to him?
[10:20] <boink> you can't. end of story. water under the bridge ...
[10:20] <Ronz> hicham, you wouldn't know the line to add in sources.lst would you?
[10:20] <darkhaze> someone used pig and it answered cos his addon
[10:20] <darkhaze> hrm
[10:20] <darkhaze> alright i'll let him know.
[10:20] <deltab> KDan: group ids are only set up for a process when it starts
[10:20] <Zoffix> boink: was it for me?
[10:20] <boink> no
[10:20] <darkhaze> boink: thanks anyway.
[10:21] <deltab> KDan: you can use sg to run a command using the new groups
[10:21] <boink> back tp the topic, boys
[10:21] <hicham> Ronz, i had the repository I don't anymore wait I'll search
[10:21] <KDan> deltab: sg? ah
[10:21] <Ronz> hicham, if this works you are my hero
[10:21] <deltab> KDan: I meant newgrp
[10:21] <KDan> thanks
[10:22] <deltab> it doesn't actually change the groups of the current shell, but starts a new one, as I understand it
[10:22] <compotatoj> I installed Ubuntu Edgy and upgraded my packages and when I restarted the sound stopped working.
[10:23] <hicham> Ronz, what is your kernel?
[10:23] <mwe> compotatoj: maybe because it's beta?
[10:23] <adam410> i have a box running ubuntu-server, and I've installed FTP, so i can ftp to the machine, but when I try to edit anything in the apache document root dir, i get a permission denied, how can I change this, so I can edit anywhere?
[10:23] <compotatoj> mwe, it used to work though
[10:23] <mwe> compotatoj: before you installed the beta version?
[10:23] <sethk> adam410, if you truly mean that you are connected via ftp, then you cannot.
[10:23] <mwe> compotatoj: edgy support is in #ubuntu+1, though
[10:23] <compotatoj> mwe, no i have been using edgy for about a month and it worked the whole time
[10:24] <mwe> compotatoj: /j #ubuntu+1
[10:24] <adam410> sethk, why is that?
[10:24] <vader> could someone help me with this error please?
[10:24] <vader> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26008/
[10:25] <sethk> adam410, because ftp means file transfer protocol, and you don't edit anything with it, you transfer files to or from a server with it.
[10:25] <hicham> Ronz,  what kernel version u have?
[10:25] <sethk> adam410, and you certainly don't alter web server source with it.
[10:25] <Ronz> hold on
[10:25] <Ronz> hicham, 2.6.15-27-386
[10:25] <adam410> sethk, that's really what I meant, I meant I wanted to upload a file, sorry If i was unclear, my bad.
[10:25] <darkhaze> vader: what do u get when u try to run $ apt-get update ?
[10:25] <Ronz> hicham, sorry...had to get some mountain dew / jellybeans  ;)
[10:25] <vader> what is in pastbin
[10:26] <vader> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26008/
[10:26] <sethk> adam410, if you were to set your permissions so your ftp user could upload web server files, the web server would refuse to run.
[10:26] <hicham> hehe k Ronz
[10:26] <sethk> adam410, ftp is an unsafe protocol that uses clear text passwords.
[10:26] <adam410> sethk, then how do you suggest that I upload files to my machine?
[10:26] <sethk> adam410, also apache is rather strict about what is owned by the web server process.
[10:27] <sethk> adam410, upload them any way you wish, but don't expect to upload them into their final destination.  then ssh into the machine, su to whichever user you need to be, and copy the files.
[10:27] <Ronz> and hicham ...will i have this problem whenever there is a kernel upgrade?
[10:27] <hicham> No u'll not Ronz
[10:28] <ubuntu-newb> anyone know wher to find the gstreamer plugins; i am having the hardest time locating them using the Synaptic Package Manager; I added the universe and multverse repositories yet I cant find them in there
[10:28] <highneko> When starting apps I see an animated outline just before the window starts. How's this removed?
[10:28] <adam410> sethk: I've scped things right into the apache dir, and there is no trouble with permissions.
[10:28] <Jowi> ubuntu-newb: search for the name "gstreamer" in synaptic
[10:28] <hastesaver> !restricted > ubuntu-newb
[10:28] <sethk> adam410, indeed, because you are the user that is permitted to do so.
[10:28] <hastesaver> ubuntu-newb, you might want to read all of that page...
[10:28] <sethk> adam410, it's a very bad idea, but the machine won't stop you.
[10:29] <adam410> sethk, so why can't my ftp account do that two?
[10:29] <adam410> and what makes it a bad idea?
[10:29] <LinAsH> vader, you need to authenticate the server by getting its gpg key : gpg --keyserver hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 0x12B83718 ;  gpg --export -a 0x12B83718 | sudo apt-key add -
[10:29] <Jowi> ubuntu-newb: the names are for example "gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad" etc
[10:29] <sethk> adam410, uploading html files to a running http server?  think about what problems that could cause.
[10:29] <sethk> adam410,  if you have scp working, that means you have sftp working.  so why do you want to use ftp when sftp is already working?
[10:30] <sureshot> what does the -bad mean
[10:30] <hicham> Ronz, what is you nvidia?
[10:30] <Ronz> sureshot, non-free.
[10:30] <Ronz> hicham, 6800 GT
[10:30] <Jowi> !info gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
[10:30] <ubotu> gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad: GStreamer plugins from the "bad" set. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 365 kB, installed size 864 kB
[10:30] <sureshot> Ronz thanks
[10:30] <Ronz> sureshot, things like mp3, wav, etc
[10:30] <Jowi> sureshot: plugins that are in a legal gray zone (depending on where you live)
[10:30] <sureshot> hey does any of you gurus out here have a crib sheet that you use to answer questions if you do would you be willing to share it
[10:31] <kitsuneofdoom> hey, I just reinstalled Ubuntu from 64 to 32 bit. I'm trying to see if I can get openGL to work. It seems to work with Mesa now, which is better than I had it before (not at all) but I'd like to get accelerated to work. I have an ATi Radeon 200M, and have installed the drivers, and followed the instructions, it still says I'm using mesa though
[10:31] <sureshot> Jowi thanks
[10:31] <simmerz> I'm getting this when cron.daily/mysql-server runs: ERROR 1373 (HY000) at line 1: Target log not found in binlog index
[10:31] <simmerz> but I'm using a stock mysql config
[10:31] <Ronz> no crib sheet for me, sureshot . only when i had to take psych 280  ;)
[10:31] <vader> LinAsH, it is saying no permission
[10:31] <silox> what am i doing whrong?? Nvidia CANT detect my TV
[10:32] <hastesaver> sureshot, In general, try "/msg ubotu <keyword>", and try searching on wiki.ubuntu.com :-)
[10:32] <sureshot> Ronz that is funny hehe i am new just asking for commands and such that is not used much so i can learn
[10:32] <meatface> I am looking for some help with a sound issue on boot after the login prompt. Is there anyone here that can look at my xsession-errors log and help me out?
[10:32] <Ronz> sureshot, messing with 'nix is the best way to learn
[10:32] <sureshot> hastesaver i do that from time to time iguess i can start my own list LOL
[10:33] <sureshot> Ronz nix ???
[10:33] <Ronz> linux
[10:33] <s1`_> how does the final two rows look in gdm.com-custom?
[10:33] <Ronz> *nix
[10:33] <sureshot> Ronz did not now the acronim
[10:33] <Ronz> * = wildcard, where * = li
[10:33] <hastesaver> Ronz, linix?
[10:33] <Ronz> =P
[10:33] <Jowi> kitsuneofdoom: mesa is a free implementation of OpenGL
[10:33] <vader> nm it will get fixed sooner or later :)
[10:33] <s1`_> I seem to have forgotten to backup that file when I edited it to start beryl
[10:33] <ChocoCid> i find it odd that people use *nix to refer to "linux and unix" when it doesn't match
[10:33] <hicham> Ronz, try apt-get install nVidia-6800GT
[10:34] <ChocoCid> *n*x would match though
[10:34] <xav> yes it would be *n*x :d
[10:34] <LinAsH> vader, are you in sudoers ? it should work (be sure any synaptic or something that can locks files is running)
[10:34] <xav> but thats ugly
[10:34] <xav> *nix is fun imo
[10:34] <ChocoCid> yeah well, so's perl
[10:34] <ChocoCid> but people use it
[10:34] <vader> LinAsH, yup
[10:34] <xav> ChocoCid, lol
[10:34] <Ronz> hicham, E: Couldn't find package nVidia-6800GT
[10:34] <sureshot> ChocoCid ever thought you are messing with a bunch of people that are odd in them selves i would be the first to admit i resemable that remark
[10:34] <hastesaver> *n?x
[10:35] <hardkaare> will network-manager be included as standard in edgy?
[10:35] <Jowi> kitsuneofdoom: maybe it's just that your direct rendering is not in use "glxinfo | grep direct" to find out
[10:35] <ClayG> anyone here own a laserjet?
[10:35] <Gabby_Hayes> Ronz  .. try  apt-cache search nvidia  (should get two files to d/l  and install)
[10:35] <hicham> ok
[10:36] <silox> ClayG 1200S here
[10:36] <ClayG> this is a dumb question, but i have a laserjet 4p and can't figure out how to turn it off
[10:36] <fortran01> ClayG, laserjet 1300
[10:36] <ClayG> without un plugging it
[10:36] <ClayG> lol
[10:36] <xav> anyway, I didn't see *nix as a real reg exp. rather a name to design all unix based system
[10:36] <LinAsH> vader, what did you type exactly ?
[10:36] <tuxtux> ciao a tutti
[10:36] <LjL> !it
[10:36] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:36] <silox> ClayG The Button on the right side?
[10:36] <hicham> Ronz, u use the ubuntu dapper or breezy?
[10:36] <ClayG> lemme check
[10:36] <Ronz> hicham, dapper
[10:36] <vader> LinAsH, I will do it later, fist day off in 20 days
[10:36] <badger>  ok i have a comp with no OS.  I put in ubuntu desktop boot disk. hit install. it said loading drivers for a couple minutes...now it just sits at a black screen with flashing prompt.  What am i suppose to do?
[10:36] <fortran01> ClayG, there's a switch near the power socket
[10:37] <Ronz> Gabby_Hayes, none. ive installed nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common
[10:37] <spoofing> i just installed ubuntu 6.10 anyone can help me put ATI driver and AIGLX working?
[10:37] <hicham> Ronz, try out this link http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[10:37] <fortran01> I get a GPG error when doing apt-get update, where can I fetch the public keys?
[10:37] <Ronz> Gabby_Hayes, also ran nvidia-xconfig and kicks back "failed to load nvidia kernel module"
[10:37] <Ronz> hicham, ok, h/o
[10:38] <ClayG> silox, fortran01 i dont have one
[10:38] <ClayG> this is an older model
[10:38] <hicham> Ronz, tell me when u finish
[10:38] <ClayG> but im sure there has to be a better way than unplugging it
[10:38] <sureshot> hay all waht is the syntax for the command to build essentials
[10:38] <LjL> sureshot: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[10:38] <LjL> if that's what you mean
[10:38] <kitsuneofdoom> Argh. Now I got it working, it seems, but it blankscreens
[10:38] <ClayG> i wish it would work as fast as when my gf is printing from her windows computer
[10:38] <ClayG> but it still is decent speed coming from mine
[10:38] <sureshot> LjL thanks for the info
[10:39] <silox> ClayG i had one of those before and i know it was a power button :P
[10:39] <Ronz> *crosses fingers*
[10:40] <ClayG> Yeah i'm sure it does i just can't find it, i looked in the reg spots, sides back front
[10:40] <fortran01> anything wrong with apt-get ubuntu servers?
[10:40] <ClayG> silox, how did it treat you? do they last?
[10:40] <badger> could somebody help me out please
[10:40] <sureshot> gee that dash aver build is very important wont work with out it LOLOLOL
[10:40] <kitsuneofdoom> Great. So, now I have a different problem. My laptop is behaving stupidly with fglrx, and blankscreens, and doesn't do anything. I have an HP dv5000. I think an older version of the driver works, is there an easy way to get and install that driver
[10:40] <hicham> what do u want badger
[10:41] <sphorbis> anybody know how to pair an motorola h500 with kbluetoothd?
[10:41] <kitsuneofdoom> At the moment, I don't have X
[10:41] <LjL> badger: what version of ubuntu is that?   for boot problems, a fairly standard suggestion is to try passing "acpi=off" as a boot parameter (you can do that from the boot menu, by hitting "e")
[10:41] <vge> when i try to configure this:http://www.howtoforge.com/apache2_with_php5_and_php4 so that php4 would be .php and php5 as php5, how do i do that? This example has em other way around. Not the way i want em
[10:41] <vge> somebody can help me with this?
[10:42] <silox> silox it a great printer, my father uses it now, i have a Laserjet4 and a 1200 here now, works fine also ;)
[10:42] <silox> oops
[10:42] <hicham> so Ronz?
[10:42] <GoldKeeper> ubuntu ubuntu what would we do with out you
[10:42] <silox> a litte scritzo.. warning there ;)
[10:43] <badger> it's the newest one 6.06.. do i type that after it loads the drivers in ubuntu.  or just booting up without the disc?
[10:43] <gandolfthewizard> ok i am still not getting this java plug in
[10:43] <Josh43> Can anyone answer me a simple multimonitor q?: I want to game on one monitor, but be able to switch focus to the second monitor if need be (To answer an IM or whatever): one is screen 0, the other is screen 1; is there any way to do this?
[10:43] <silox> ClayG it a great printer, my father uses it now, i have a Laserjet4 and a 1200 here now, works fine also ;)
[10:43] <hicham> badger I didn't understand what is your problem if ur talking to me
[10:44] <GoldKeeper> im not sure but what games you got going ?
[10:44] <sethk> badger, download the alternate cd and do the text mode install
[10:44] <ClayG> I picked up a toner catridge for 21 bucks!
[10:44] <badger> when do you type acpi=off?
[10:44] <ClayG> if this thing can really do 7000 pages off of one catridge im going to be a happy camper
[10:44] <LjL> badger: well, when it shows the very first screen, with "Load or install Ubuntu", "Load Ubuntu in safe gfx mode", etc... i think it's F6 you should press, to pass parameters to the kernel
[10:44] <Josh43> GoldKeeper, Nexuiz, for example (open source fps)
[10:44] <fortran01> badger, grub prompt
[10:44] <silox> ClayG i got those printers for free ;)
[10:44] <LjL> badger: (when i said press "e", i was actually thinking about the boot loader Grub... but that's only there *after* you have ubuntu installed on your HD)
[10:44] <gandolfthewizard> looking for some help on java i have done evrything that i am suppose to do
[10:44] <ClayG> silox, lucky DOG! how did you manage that?
[10:45] <gandolfthewizard> i had it running in the terminal and everything
[10:45] <ClayG> silox, i bought mine for 100 on ebay
[10:45] <gandolfthewizard> but when i go to log into the game room in yahoo it says i still need the plug in
[10:45] <willys_fueguino> i need to know if there is an official Ubuntu code of conduct in spanish
[10:45] <silox> ClayG my father gets them in he jobs "trashbox" ;)
[10:45] <LjL> badger: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[10:45] <sethk> willys_fueguino, no puedos hacer nada
[10:45] <silox> + a lot of tones
[10:46] <ClayG> damn
[10:46] <ClayG> you should be selling them
[10:46] <ClayG> you can get an easy 100+50shipping on ebay
[10:46] <LjL> badger: also, make sure the CD was burned OK, but doing an md5sum on it
[10:46] <willys_fueguino> sethk, what??
[10:46] <willys_fueguino> :-S
[10:46] <silox> ClayG you would love to walk in there they throw away computers (450 Mhz) monitors 21" etc. all fine and fully working
[10:46] <gandolfthewizard> any ideas
[10:46] <gandolfthewizard> please
[10:46] <Josh43> bah - ran out of time; anyone feel free to contemplate my question until I get back ;)
[10:46] <silox> ;)
[10:46] <loper06> where do i go to edit what services are loaded @ boot?
[10:47] <silox> ClayG cant sell them, they were swedish gouvernment property ;)
[10:47] <mwe> loper06: using bum might be easiest
[10:47] <oxygene_> !session
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about session - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <willys_fueguino> i need to know if there is an official Ubuntu code of conduct in spanish
[10:47] <ClayG> silox, I would have eyes wide open looking like qaurters!
[10:47] <mwe> loper06: you probably have to install it
[10:48] <minimec> loper06: bum or rcconf (for console)
[10:48] <b03nto> gandolfthewizard, why dont u download jre bin and build deb ur self
[10:48] <sethk> willys_fueguino, sorry, puedes, not puedos   :)
[10:48] <ClayG> i can take 450z and make them thinclient's , stick them in rooms that need computers
[10:48] <gandolfthewizard> because i am new here to linux and i have no clue what i am doing
[10:48] <ClayG> or maybe a makeshift webserver, fileserver,etc
[10:48] <silox> ClayG i use them as servers here xD
[10:48] <ClayG> my gf alreadys gives this big sigh when i walk in with another computer
[10:48] <ClayG> lol
[10:48] <willys_fueguino> sethk, that means that theres none translated code of conduct (official)??
[10:49] <gandolfthewizard> i had java installed lat night but i had to reinstall things this morning
[10:49] <silox> ClayG lol
[10:49] <sethk> willys_fueguino, I haven't seen one, but it may exist.
[10:49] <ClayG> got a bunch in my dumpster diving days
[10:49] <silox> :P
[10:49] <sethk> willys_fueguino, did you ask on the spanish ubuntu irc channel?
[10:49] <ClayG> we hit a datacenter in town and pulled a battery backup that was INSANE
[10:50] <b03nto> gandolfthewizard, dou you have make-jpkg
[10:50] <ClayG> sold it for 2 c-notes but i wanted to keep it, partners....
[10:50] <loper06> minimec: sudo apt-get install bum > correct?
[10:50] <gandolfthewizard> not that i know of
[10:50] <silox> ClayG k :P
[10:50] <loper06> or in symatic
[10:50] <ClayG> then we developed "dark dumpster" tactics, pulling broken things outta the trash, buying new ones from walmart and returning the broken ones in the new boxes and getting cash back, then selling the new ones on ebay
[10:51] <minimec> loper06: yeah. try that. maybe you have to activate uni- and multiverse
[10:51] <gandolfthewizard> can someone just give me the terminal commands and i'll work o getting the java that i need
[10:51] <ClayG> lemme stop, before a #ubuntu-boyscout tells me to take it to offtopic
[10:51] <silox> ClayG lol :P
[10:51] <b03nto> gandolfthewizard: oke try download java bin from here http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware_source/l/jre/
[10:51] <silox> ;)
[10:52] <ClayG> silox, what are you using for the driver? I am using the hplip or something like that
[10:52] <ClayG> very slow, i want the fastest one
[10:52] <b03nto> gandolfthewizard, are u there...
[10:52] <silox> ClayG i use standard drives
[10:52] <gandolfthewizard> yes i am here
[10:53] <b03nto> gandolfthewizard, have u download it
[10:53] <silox> ClayG hplip
[10:53] <gandolfthewizard> working on it kinda slow right now
[10:53] <ClayG> yeah
[10:53] <ClayG> thats what im using
[10:54] <silox> yupp it works quite well with those
[10:54] <Ronz> hey hicham , it threw back an error
[10:54] <gandolfthewizard> i'll be glad when t he cd gets here
[10:54] <Ronz> hicham,  The kernel source path '/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-27-386' does not
[10:54] <Ronz>        exist.
[10:54] <b03nto> gandolfthewizard, what cd ?
[10:54] <gandolfthewizard> ubuntu
[10:55] <Clarrisa> who should be the owner of .htaccess and the passwords they point tho?
[10:55] <silox> ClayG do u know anything about connecting the computer to the TV? ^^
[10:55] <Clarrisa> to
[10:55] <b03nto> gandolfthewizard, what ubuntu ?
[10:55] <gandolfthewizard> the new one
[10:55] <ClayG> nah, I would imagine a good tv in/out would do it
[10:55] <Clarrisa> who should be the owner of .htaccess and the passwords they point to
[10:55] <Ronz> edgy?
[10:55] <ClayG> unless the tv is like one of those that can double as a monitor
[10:55] <hicham> Ronz, try to install the linux-headers-2.6.15.27-386
[10:55] <Clarrisa> who should be the owner of .htaccess and the password FILES they point to?
[10:55] <b03nto> gandolfthewizard, whats up with dapper ?
[10:55] <gandolfthewizard> i don't have dapper
[10:56] <hicham> apt-get install linux-headers...
[10:56] <silox> ClayG ie tried now with xorg.conf configuring and Nvidia settings but it wont find my TV :(
[10:56] <ClayG> silox, do you know anything about making it so you can print over the internet? like make my laserprinter able to print sht i find at work?
[10:56] <hicham> on in the synaptic
[10:56] <b03nto> gandolfthewizard, so what are u using now ?
[10:56] <gandolfthewizard> ubuntu
[10:56] <gandolfthewizard> the slow one
[10:56] <sethk> ClayG, you have to tunnel to do that
[10:56] <b03nto> the slow one ?
[10:56] <badger> ok i enter acpi=off and i got a new problem
[10:56] <gandolfthewizard> yeah the alternate download
[10:56] <Enselic> is it hard to install GNOME 2.16 onto Ubuntu 6.06?
[10:56] <sethk> ClayG, a vpn of course will do it magically for you.
[10:56] <ClayG> yeah i need beyond that
[10:56] <ClayG> or before that
[10:56] <Clarrisa> come on, someone must know the answer to this
[10:57] <silox> ClayG i know it exists some programs for that but i cant remember the names :P wait
[10:57] <ClayG> nah dont wanna vpn
[10:57] <hicham> Ronz, did u read?
[10:57] <ClayG> i cant tunnel the private ip/ports no prob
[10:57] <donna> how do i install the nvidia legacy drivers??? when i use synaptics it wont start x
[10:57] <ClayG> that is something has to be done for me to ssh "home"
[10:57] <Ronz> hicham, yea
[10:57] <CromagDK> !nvidia
[10:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:57] <dxdemetriou> hi
[10:57] <hicham> try it out and tel me Ronz
[10:57] <EkUmBa> hello
[10:57] <CromagDK> oh uhm have another donna. Sec.
[10:57] <blaa> I deleted /var on my lamp server. how do i do ?
[10:57] <Ronz> aight. *hugs hicham *
[10:57] <ClayG> i wonder if i could just create a new printger from work, make it "local" use the tcp/ip setting, dont know what port a printer uses though
[10:57] <badger> it went further into installing, like detecting hardware and stuff, and then the monitor starts flashing "invalid pc mode". what is this?
[10:58] <b03nto> gandolfthewizard: breezy, dapper, edgy ?
[10:58] <EkUmBa> does anyone know,why my ubuntu crashes down,when i move or copy more than 20 files?
[10:58] <Enselic> Does anyone here run GNOME 2.16 on Ubuntu 6.06?
[10:58] <dxdemetriou> Is there any howto how can I make work my graphic card from motherboard unichrome?
[10:58] <ClayG> guess i could ask uncle google (i hate when i see f4gs say that)
[10:58] <Enselic> Ekumba: what's your system specs?
[10:58] <gandolfthewizard> i don't know what ever one is on the ubuntu site
[10:58] <CromagDK> donna: legacy ?
[10:58] <EkUmBa> i have a athlon 900 mhz,512 MB Ram
[10:58] <donna> yes legacy
[10:58] <donna> i tried using synaptics once, and my x didnt start on reboot
[10:58] <gandolfthewizard> for the alternate download
[10:59] <EkUmBa> dvd device is a new lg dvd burner
[10:59] <donna> its an old geforce 4mx
[10:59] <Jowi> Clarrisa: root sounds good
[10:59] <CromagDK> donna: any errors ?
[10:59] <MrFeetio> can someone tell me how i can create my own theme(gtk2)
[10:59] <donna> dunno
[10:59] <b03nto> gandolfthewizard: try lsb_release -a ..
[10:59] <jrib> MrFeetio: art.gnome.org has a tutorial
[10:59] <badger> does anyone know the answer to my question.   puhlease!
[10:59] <MrFeetio> jrib thanks
[10:59] <hicham> so Ronz?
[10:59] <CromagDK> if it doesnt start, it doesnt say anything about it wont start ?
[10:59] <blaa> I deleted /var on my lamp server. how do i do ?
[11:00] <gandolfthewizard> ok
[11:00] <gandolfthewizard> done
[11:00] <b03nto> !pastebin
[11:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:00] <donna> brb
[11:00] <EkUmBa> Enselic?
[11:00] <gandolfthewizard> it's dapper 6.06
[11:00] <b03nto> gandolfthewizard: what it tell u ?
[11:01] <Enselic> Ekumba: Was it like this from the start of the dist?
[11:01] <Jowi> blaa: restore from your backup that you made before you accidentally deleted it?
[11:01] <gandolfthewizard> ubuntu 6.06.1 lts
[11:01] <b03nto> gandolfthewizard: is the java bin download thing finish ?
[11:01] <badger> it went further into installing, like detecting hardware and stuff, and then the monitor starts flashing "invalid pc mode". what is this?
[11:01] <EkUmBa> hm,i don't know.never moved many files
[11:01] <gandolfthewizard> release 6.06
[11:01] <gandolfthewizard> codename dapper
[11:01] <b03nto> gandolfthewizard: yes, im using that too.
[11:02] <EkUmBa> i moved many files,like 50....than the disk editor crashes....the system is still stable
[11:02] <gandolfthewizard> so will this give me my yahoo plug-in
[11:02] <EkUmBa> Enselic:do u know a better disk explorer.?
[11:02] <b03nto> gandolfthewizard: i though u looking for java..?
[11:02] <dxdemetriou> Can I make direct rendering to work in dapper for my unichrome card?
[11:02] <gandolfthewizard> yes the java plug-in for yahoo
[11:02] <blaa> Jowi: no backup
[11:03] <Enselic> Ekumba: I use Nautilus
[11:03] <Enselic> Ekumba: How does it crash?
[11:03] <Enselic> Ekumba: What does it look like?
[11:03] <Jowi> blaa: you're toast :-/
[11:03] <Enselic> Ekumba: Does it crash at exactly 20 items=
[11:03] <Enselic> Ekumba: Does it depend on destination of the files?
[11:03] <b03nto> gandolfthewizard: what u use ? firefox ? try  "about:plugins" on it, is there any java already ?
[11:04] <Sivik> how do i verify that my ftp server is active
[11:04] <Jowi> dxdemetriou: yes. run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". use the "via" driver for Xorg. when asked to add DRI say "yes"
[11:04] <gandolfthewizard> no
[11:05] <jrib> gandolfthewizard: did you get a chance to pastebin your sources.list yet?
[11:05] <b03nto> gandolfthewizard: ok, than u dont have java installed.. is the java bin downloading finish yet ?
[11:05] <Jowi> dxdemetriou: running with accellerated graphics just fine on a epia M-10000
[11:05] <EkUmBa> Enselic:now i have another problem.i have moved the files from the disk to my hardrive.but now i can't delete the files.in nautilus there is pivot symbol.what to do?...well nautilus crahes sometime t 5 files of this pics,somtimes at 20
[11:05] <badger> hey LjL
[11:05] <b03nto> gandolfthewizard: yes that too, i think your ubuntu still virgin right :)
[11:06] <gandolfthewizard> yeah i just installed it last night
[11:06] <dxdemetriou> Jowi, this type I know that is open with Linux. I have the K7 motherboard. I hope to works. thanks
[11:06] <gandolfthewizard> but yes the bin is done
[11:06] <LjL> badger: i don't really know, honestly
[11:06] <Enselic> run 'sudo nautilus &' from a terminal, and delete from there, that should go
[11:06] <Enselic> @ ekumba
[11:06] <b03nto> gandolfthewizard: can u do this "sudo apt-get install java-package"
[11:07] <Jowi> dxdemetriou: via should work (no guarantees but a good guess)
[11:07] <EkUmBa> Enselic:yes?
[11:07] <badger> ahh.  this blows
[11:07] <godzirra> what do I need to install/run to setup X?
[11:07] <Sivik> xserver-xorg
[11:07] <Enselic> ekumba, now delete the files
[11:07] <lightstep> i have a problem: apt always thinks it has the newset package lists, and never updates them. i tried deleting /var/cache/apt/*pkgcache.bin, but it still won't update. how can i force apt to download new lists from all the servers?
[11:07] <Sivik> among other thanks
[11:07] <Jowi> godzirra: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:07] <Ramunas> night everybody
[11:07] <godzirra> thanks
[11:07] <EkUmBa> @???
[11:08] <Sivik> Jowi: i don't think he has the stuff installed
[11:08] <jim> hi, anyone able to assist me get wireless internet working on a dell inspiron 6000 laptop? linux version "Ubuntu 6.06 LTS"...  lspci at the command line gives: "Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG".
[11:08] <Sivik> lightstep: try apt-get -f install
[11:08] <njal> What's the story with linux and SATA, before I waste my money on a drive that I cannot return?
[11:08] <Sivik> njal: i don't have a problem sata
[11:08] <pinky> Why doesn't ifconfig return a given interface's configured gateway address?
[11:08] <gandolfthewizard> this is what i get Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:08] <gandolfthewizard> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:08] <njal> So SATA works out of the box?
[11:08] <EkUmBa> Enselic:i'm a linix newbie
[11:08] <Sivik> njal: mine does, i have a wd 160 gb sata
[11:08] <Sivik> njal: what board?
[11:09] <lightstep> Sivik, i still get "Hit" or "Ign" for all servers
[11:09] <Enselic> ekumba, did you get a nautilus session when you wrote sudo nautilus in a terminal?
[11:09] <b03nto> gandolfthewizard: do u run synaptic, if you do shut it first..
[11:09] <LSD`> how do I get teh full list of crap ubuntu starts at boot time? neither the services applet in gnome or rcconf give all the stuff that start up
[11:09] <lightstep> Sivik, (i did -f update)
[11:09] <Enselic> ekumba, sudo means 'run as root', root is the user who can do anything
[11:09] <EkUmBa> yes
[11:10] <Jowi> Sivik: ah, in that case godzirra: are you looking for just a base system of Xorg or gnome and the full shebang?
[11:10] <Sivik> lightstep: are you using the us.archive.ubuntu.com in the /etc/apt/sources.conf file
[11:10] <Enselic> ekumba, that means you have root priviliges from that session
[11:10] <njal> Mobo is AM2 K8M890M2MA-RS2
[11:10] <lightstep> LSD`, look at /etc/rc2.d
[11:10] <Sivik> njal: shouldn't be a problem
[11:10] <gandolfthewizard> k ty
[11:10] <ClayG> Enselic, here is something interesting....
[11:10] <Sivik> lightstep: look at your sources.list file
[11:10] <Enselic> ekumba, which means you should be able to delete the files you couonld't ddlee
[11:10] <lightstep> Sivik, yes, i do
[11:10] <njal> cool I just know windows needs external drivers and wanted to check up that there are no issues
[11:10] <ClayG> One would assume that su means superuser since sudo is super user do (i beleive)
[11:10] <Sivik> get ride of the us in each of those locations and then run apt-get update again
[11:10] <njal> ok thanks
[11:10] <Sivik> the us ones never work
[11:10] <ClayG> instead it's substitute user
[11:11] <Sivik> njal: no, linux has the sata drivers
[11:11] <gandolfthewizard> Package java-package is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:11] <gandolfthewizard> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:11] <gandolfthewizard> is only available from another source
[11:11] <gandolfthewizard> E: Package java-package has no installation candidate
[11:11] <Sivik> njal: i wouldn't worry about it
[11:11] <hicham> no it is super user ClayG
[11:11] <Sivik> gandolfthewizard: try doing an apt-cache search for java
[11:11] <lightstep> Sivik, thanks. will it direct me to a random server each time?
[11:11] <ClayG> hicham, i thought the same
[11:11] <Sivik> lightstep: yes, it will find one that works
[11:11] <jrib> gandolfthewizard: please do not paste here, use a pastebin.  And please use it to paste your sources.list! please!
[11:11] <hicham> yep
[11:11] <EkUmBa> Enselic:okay,i have started nautilus with root permission,and i'm able to delete the files.how can i always start nautlis with root permission?as default?
[11:11] <godzirra> Hrm, I dont have startx
[11:11] <ClayG> it is not though it is sub user with no user it assumes root, when a users name is given as an argument it subs them
[11:11] <Sivik> gandolfthewizard: thats not the name of the package that your trying to install
[11:12] <Sivik> lightstep: does that help
[11:12] <b03nto> gandolfthewizard: can you cp your /etc/apt/source.list to pastebin..
[11:12] <Enselic> EkUmBa: well you shouldn't use the root account all the time
[11:12] <godzirra> What do I need to intsall to be able to run "startx"?
[11:12] <Jowi> godzirra: do you want full gnome desktop or just a lightweight Xorg?
[11:12] <gandolfthewizard> ok what am i looking for
[11:12] <A-L-P-H-A> what should the directory setting for /var/www be?  0777 root:root? I tinkered around with it, and now apache is now telling me I don't have permission to access /
[11:12] <godzirra> lightweight
[11:12] <Jowi> godzirra: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[11:12] <Enselic> EkUmBa: put your files in the your home directory always
[11:12] <ClayG> hicham, http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl1_su.htm
[11:12] <b03nto> !pastebin
[11:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:13] <Enselic> EkUmBa: and install software and such as root only,dont use root for common computer work
[11:13] <EkUmBa> Enselic:my files are all in the home directory
[11:13] <hicham> A-L-P-H-A, it should be 777
[11:13] <Enselic> EkUmBa: then you must have accidentally moved them there with the root
[11:13] <Jowi> godzirra: for example from the page: sudo apt-get install wdm x-window-system-core xfce4 mozilla-firefox synaptic
[11:13] <Enselic> EkUmBa: stay away from using root, and you should be fine
[11:13] <jrib> gandolfthewizard: /etc/apt/sources.list is a file on your system that stores the repository information.  Open it with gedit and copy and paste the contents to make a post at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org .  Then give everyone here the url to your post so we can see it
[11:13] <Enselic> EkUmBa: for intsance, if you make a sudo make install and some files are copied to your home directory
[11:14] <gandolfthewizard> what am i looking for i have a lot for java
[11:14] <lightstep> Sivik, i think it does. it downloads several 2.* MB files now
[11:14] <Enselic> EkUmBa: then the "nromal" you will not be able to change those file
[11:14] <godzirra> ok, reading now.
[11:14] <JDStone> I'm receiving this error:
[11:14] <JDStone> root@server:~# /etc/init.d/smartmontools start
[11:14] <JDStone>  * Enabling S.M.A.R.T. for /dev/hda
[11:14] <JDStone>    ...done.
[11:14] <JDStone>  * Enabling S.M.A.R.T. for /dev/sda
[11:14] <JDStone>    ...fail!
[11:14] <hicham> so it is substitute user ClayG
[11:14] <JDStone>  * Enabling S.M.A.R.T. for /dev/sdb
[11:14] <JDStone>    ...fail!
[11:14] <JDStone>  * Starting S.M.A.R.T. daemon...
[11:14] <hicham> I never knew!
[11:14] <jrib> ubotu: tell JDStone about paste
[11:14] <JDStone>    ...done.
[11:14] <A-L-P-H-A> hicham, if you don't mind what's the owner and usergroup setting?
[11:15] <JDStone> can someone please help me?
[11:15] <EkUmBa> Enselic:okay,i see.and how can i now changed the "locked" files,so that i can see them in my nautilus without root permission?
[11:15] <Skurupu> I get this error when trying to install Baldur's Gate II using wine: 0x80040706 (http://consumer.installshield.com/kb.asp?id=Q110641) - Can anyone help me?
[11:15] <ClayG> hicham, i thought it was superuser for years
[11:15] <JDStone> jrib: sorry, I forgot about paste
[11:15] <Sivik> JDStone: turn off smart from bios
[11:15] <hicham> hehe
[11:15] <Jowi> JDStone: what type of devices are /dev/sda and /dev/sdb?
[11:15] <gandolfthewizard> what am i looking for
[11:15] <sureshot> is the ubuntu kernel in the ropos
[11:15] <Sivik> !pastebin > JDStone
[11:15] <JDStone> Jowi: they are in a RAID array
[11:15] <A-L-P-H-A> Jowi: on my system SATA.
[11:15] <Enselic> EkUmBa: use nautilus as root (sudo nautilus in terminal), right click on the files, permissions, and set the permission as you want them
[11:15] <nxvl> hi, did someone know how do i make my company an ubuntu partner?
[11:15] <ClayG> hicham, it's just one of those things, like how ls = lollypop store, which lists everything in the directory
[11:15] <JDStone> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26010/
[11:16] <Jowi> A-L-P-H-A: on my system a USB key :)
[11:16] <A-L-P-H-A> Jowi: on my system SATA, md0 would be an array.
[11:16] <ClayG> hahahaha just messing around
[11:16] <EkUmBa> ah,okay.thats easy.well,thank you very much
[11:16] <JDStone> md0 is my array Jowi
[11:16] <donna> i am getting an error message after using synaptics to install the nvdia glx
[11:16] <donna> its after i enter sudo nvidia-glx-config enable in the terminal
[11:16] <hicham> the owner setting should be read write execute
[11:16] <Enselic> EkUmBa: Right Click -> Properties -> Permissions I belive
[11:16] <Jowi> JDStone: no idea about smart on a sata disk, sorry
[11:17] <donna> where can i paste my error msg
[11:17] <Sivik> JDStone: try turning it off in your bios
[11:17] <gandolfthewizard> still trying to get java plug-in
[11:17] <Sivik> !pastebin
[11:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:17] <hicham> the usergroup should be read execute A-L-P-H-A
[11:17] <hicham> ClayG it is really lollypop store the ls?
[11:17] <Skurupu> I get this error when trying to install Baldur's Gate II using wine: 0x80040706 (http://consumer.installshield.com/kb.asp?id=Q110641) - Can anyone help me?
[11:17] <donna> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26011/
[11:18] <ClayG> hicham, nah i was kidding about that last one
[11:18] <JDStone> Sivik: it works on my hda drive, which is enabled in the bios, but I'll try that
[11:18] <donna> i already manually edited my xorgconfg to say nvidia but when i enter that command i still get the error again
[11:18] <hicham> lol!!! ClayG I see but I wanted to be sure!
[11:18] <jrib> donna: the error message tells you what to do
[11:18] <ClayG> hicham, but if you are looking for oddities try this old unix command that is still around = fortune
[11:18] <EkUmBa> Enselic:it did work....but why is my system so slow with many files.in my picture driectory,there are 300 files.and ubuntu need a lot of time to open this
[11:18] <dxdemetriou> I have yet problems with my unichrome for glx, dri. It is because I had nvidia before or needs reinstallation the driver for x11?
[11:18] <donna> yes i did that, but when i enter the command it gives me the error again
[11:18] <donna> i cannot enter sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[11:18] <godzirra> How do I change the driver?  Its trying to use VGA not i810?
[11:18] <donna> even after i change my xorg to say nvidia
[11:19] <jrib> donna: you don't need to, that's all that command does anyway
[11:19] <donna> oh
[11:19] <hicham> lol what is this for!! ClayG
[11:19] <Jowi> Skurupu: I would ask in #winehq
[11:19] <donna> so what should i do if my X does not restart and im stick in that dos prompt termainal thingy
[11:19] <donna> init 1
[11:19] <Skurupu> Jowi: okm thanks
[11:19] <jrib> donna: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg,   will start a wizard for you to create a new xorg.conf in that case
[11:20] <hicham> ClayG, at each time it gives a sentence!!!
[11:20] <Jowi> night all
[11:20] <ClayG> hicham, looks like shts and giggles, i was reading a unix book that is like 20 years old and it had it, i tried it in ubuntu and it worked
[11:20] <jrib> donna: (and you would go back to nv), or just edit again and go back to nv
[11:20] <Enselic> EkUmBa: It's probably because it wants to preview them, you can change that in Edit -> Preferences -> Previews
[11:20] <Enselic> EkUmBa: (I use the swedish version, so the names might be wrong)
[11:20] <hicham> normally in all bash terminals it works ClayG
[11:20] <ClayG> there is another one that shows the filesystems in a 3d graphical view, more like cylinders but i cant find it on ubuntu
[11:20] <jrib> gandolfthewizard: do you want me to try helping you with java?
[11:21] <ClayG> hicham, i would imagine it is a program working on any terminal that has a unix derivitave
[11:21] <blaa> how do i do before install lamp server
[11:21] <Languid> hi i want to uninstall all plugins listed in my about:plugins page from firefox, anyone know how i could go about doing that?
[11:21] <ClayG> anyone here know where i can find the termcaps file ? i want to change the default size that the terminal box pops up when i launch it
[11:21] <dxdemetriou> Are there places that can I check for hardware compatibility with ubuntu?
[11:21] <ClayG> make it a  little smaller
[11:21] <blaa> how do i do before install lamp server?
[11:21] <hicham> did u ever search for the script ClayG
[11:22] <wikijeff> How can I show my home folder and trash on my desktop?
[11:22] <ClayG> trying it now, just remember last time i had to find it
[11:22] <jrib> Languid: I believe about:plugins lists your plugins that you already have isntalled
[11:22] <sureshot> is the ubuntu kernel in the ropos
[11:22] <jrib> Languid: oh, uninstall, my fault.  You'll need to remove all the packages that correspond to the plugin
[11:22] <Languid> jrib, right, and i want to uninstall them...
[11:22] <LjL> uh... yes? is that a trick question? :P
[11:22] <ClayG> is there anything better then locate?
[11:23] <ClayG> for searching?
[11:23] <LjL> sureshot: apt-cache search linux ;)
[11:23] <sureshot> thanks
[11:23] <Languid> jrib, ah okay.  see i updated to edgy eft, and now gmail crashes when i try to view my inbox
[11:23] <jrib> Languid: dpkg -S /path/to/file   <-- this command will tell you the name of the package that owns a file.  So that may help you
[11:23] <ClayG> i saw another one just dont feel like pulling books of the shelf and flipping through them , takes alot of time
[11:23] <ClayG> rather get spoon fed for a minute
[11:23] <kuiper> How can i browse my network shares with xubuntu? Thunar seems incapable of doing so..
[11:23] <blaa> how do i do before install lamp server?
[11:24] <Languid> jrib, that would be handy, thanks :)
[11:24] <EkUmBa> Enselic:okay,thank you very much for your help
[11:25] <donna> how stable is compiz? for ubuntu
[11:25] <donna> !compiz
[11:25] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:25] <jrib> Languid: By the way, I think I've read about some people having that problem either on launchpad or the forums.  So you may want to do a quick search to see if there is a better solution
[11:25] <blaa> how do i do before install lamp server?
[11:25] <Enselic> EkUmBa: np :)
[11:25] <wikijeff> Anyone?
[11:26] <donna> how do i know if my video card supports aiglx
[11:26] <jrib> ubotu: tell wikijeff about icons
[11:26] <pooya> hi, does anyone know why PS file look wide on wide screens?
[11:26] <jrib> ubotu: tell donna about xgl
[11:26] <piratepenguin> it's so damn frustrating the way Ubuntu rewrites grub's menu.lst when a new kernel is installed.. it should just add a new entry. /looks into submitting a bug report
[11:27] <frodo> i want to add an environment variable (path to directory) how?
[11:27] <blaa> how do i do before install lamp server?
[11:27] <lightstep> Sivik, it finished, next i did apt-get dist-upgrade, and it says it had nothing to upgrade
[11:27] <piratepenguin> frodo, $PWD  ?
[11:27] <jrib> blaa: what do you mean exactly?
[11:27] <donna> that link doesnt tell me how to install compiz
[11:27] <lightstep> Sivik, also, i looked in synaptic for a package thich i know is in the Universe, and it still wasn't there
[11:27] <kfm82northwood> frodo, piratepenguin, $PATH
[11:28] <frodo> ok thanks
[11:28] <frodo> done
[11:28] <jrib> donna: try #ubuntu-xgl, they are the experts
[11:28] <youser> hey i finaly got amsn working
[11:28] <Ciaus> i just installed ubuntu 6.06 onto my home PC it cam eup fine, i did the online update, and now x server wont start says it needs 1875K and there is only 153k available
[11:28] <Ciaus> HELP!
[11:28] <Ciaus> 1532k*
[11:29] <piratepenguin> Ciaus, what kindof a machine is this?
[11:29] <Xavier101> #automatix
[11:29] <Ciaus> netvista x41
[11:29] <blaa> jrib: I mean what should i check before install lamp server cause i deleted /var and no backup.
[11:29] <wikijeff> jrib: thanks, but I'm using GNOME not KDE
[11:30] <jrib> wikijeff: yes, the bot gives you information for both though
[11:30] <Ciaus> mt is 2179
[11:30] <wikijeff> jrib: ah, thanks
[11:30] <blaa> jrib: I mean what should i check before install lamp server cause i deleted /var and no backup.
[11:31] <JDStone> i think I figured it out: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26013/
[11:31] <JDStone> any ideas?
[11:31] <hicham> A-L-P-H-A, so what did u do at last?
[11:31] <Languid> jrib, ok, ill look on launchpad and see what i find, thanks
[11:33] <A-L-P-H-A> hicham, changed the /var/www to 0755, and it worked now... #apache was most helpful.
[11:33] <silverman> is there a way to make .deb package from folder ?
[11:33] <hicham> ok A-L-P-H-A
[11:34] <Xavier101> automatix2 has been released
[11:34] <jrib> ubotu: tell silverman about checkinstall
[11:34] <jrib> silverman: you may also want to consider the help.ubuntu.com tutorial if you want to do it the "right" way
[11:34] <Languid> jrib, i cant find any solutions on launchpad, just people giving the same problems... :\
[11:35] <blaa> jrib: I mean what should i check before install lamp server cause i deleted /var and no backup.
[11:35] <hicham> so A-L-P-H-A it is like I told
[11:36] <hicham> A-L-P-H-A, the owner is rwx the group is rx
[11:36] <A-L-P-H-A> hicham: umm... you told me 0777 which didn't solve the problem... apache2 wanted 0755.
[11:36] <davidmacintosh> hi folks: I'm running edgy and have installed libdvdcss2/read3 and all the usual tricks for playing encrypted DVDs but I just can't get it to work (totem/xine/mplayer/ogle).  anyone else running into encryption problems when trying to view their dvd collections?
[11:36] <A-L-P-H-A> hicham: it was weird, cause I had it set to 0777, and it didn't work... changed it to 0755 and it did.
[11:36] <davidmacintosh> any idea how I might get this to work (or what I might be overlooking)?
[11:36] <hicham> ok man
[11:36] <hicham> A-L-P-H-A,
[11:36] <silverman> jrib: i read about checkinstall, but it only can do with full source which include makefile and configure. i have a folder and i want to make it .deb so i extract it whenever i reinstall OS
[11:37] <A-L-P-H-A> hicham: thanks though.
[11:37] <hicham> lol A-L-P-H-A  welcome
[11:37] <blaa> jrib: I mean what should i check before install lamp server cause i deleted /var and no backup.
[11:37] <jrib> blaa: I don't know
[11:38] <blaa> jrib: thx
[11:38] <silverman> jrib: any idea ?
[11:39] <dyn-afk> blaa deleted /var ?
[11:39] <jrib> silverman: I've not sure what you want to do.  Why not just tar your folder and then extract it?
[11:39] <dyn-afk> that's not a good idea to do so :P
[11:39] <dyn-afk> your logfiles are in there
[11:39] <blaa> dyn-afk: I don't want to do that
[11:40] <silverman> jrib: a folder some programs i want to use .deb so when i install every file goes to right place.. for example mygame goes to game on menu
[11:41] <jrib> silverman: do you just want to create a backup?  There are tools specifically for that
[11:43] <silverman> jrib: not only backup... i want it to check for dep as well if its not there it wget and install it as well
[11:43] <dv_> hi
[11:44] <silverman> jrib: maybe my question is not clear... thanks anyway i'll try to google it
[11:44] <jrib> silverman: yeah I don't think I know exactly what you mean, but good luck, hope you find it
[11:45] <Xavier101> could anyone help with my dual monitor setup?
[11:46] <dashriKe> so I am going to install to another drive in a few days, and I am debating whether I want to set up anothe dual-boot for games/CAD or just use Ubuntu and try my luck with WINE and/or Cedega and similars
[11:46] <silverman> jrib: another question can i unpack .dep file to see the files without installing it ?
[11:46] <ChocoCid> probably want dual boot or something like qemu/vmware
[11:46] <davidmacintosh> hi folks: I'm running edgy and have installed libdvdcss2/read3 and all the usual tricks for playing encrypted DVDs but I just can't get it to work (totem/xine/mplayer/ogle).  anyone else running into encryption problems when trying to view their dvd collections?
[11:46] <jrib> silverman: if you mean .deb, yes.  dpkg -x
[11:46] <ChocoCid> better look up apps on winehq before you try using it
[11:46] <ogami1972b> hi folks- anyone ever set up a bot using supybot?
[11:46] <jrib> silverman: you can open it with Archive Manager too
[11:47] <Nicole> Hi guys
[11:48] <silverman> jrib: u mean roller Archive Manager?
[11:48] <dyn-afk> yup
[11:48] <jrib> silverman: yes
[11:48] <Nicole> Do you know a msn to ue microphone an web cam
[11:48] <dyn-afk> or Xarchive (but that one isn't installed by default)
[11:49] <silverman> jrib: yes that worked thanks alot
[11:49] <DaveyJ> my sound vanished :( is there a way to reload the sound driver or module?
[11:49] <DaveyJ> i tried rebooting already
[11:49] <MiLK_MaN> hi, does anyone know of a packaged program for print CD Labels or something
[11:50] <roko> ati
[11:51] <sepheebear> DaveyJ: have you checked 'lsmod | grep snd' ?
[11:51] <dv_> hmm is it possible to use a freetype version with the bytecode interpreter enabled?
[11:51] <mwe> dv_: yes if you compile it yourself
[11:52] <mwe> dv_: I didn't see any difference personally, though.
[11:52] <lucaz__> Can I make a dist-upgrade using the dist from the cd?
[11:52] <roko> help me activate acelerate graphi car ati randeon gecube 9250
[11:53] <jrib> ubotu: tell lucaz__ about upgrade
[11:53] <silverman> jrib: i know i botherd u alot... last question sir...... how to repack it to original .dep
[11:53] <Nicole> guys, are you mad at me???Do you know a msn to ue microphone an web cam
[11:53] <gnomefreak> Nicole: there really isnt one
[11:53] <Xavier101> Nicole: have you looked into amsn?
[11:53] <_xXX_> join #ubuntu-lat
[11:53] <MiLK_MaN> trillian needs to release a version for linux
[11:53] <gnomefreak> cam support isnt in any of the chat clients you would have to use another app.
[11:54] <jrib> silverman: you'll need to read the tutorial at help.ubuntu.com.  dpkg-buildpackage is the final command you will be working with
[11:56] <silverman> jrib: iam at that page cant find dpkg-buildpackage !
[11:56] <DaveyJ> sepheebear: yeah the modules are loaded
[11:57] <jrib> silverman: maybe they use debuild
[11:57] <Buglouse> I am using DarkIce with my Ubuntu Drapper installation... I have the lame files installed... but DarkIce says DarkIce.cpp:606: DarkIce not compiled with lame support, thus can't connect to ShoutCast, stream: shoutcast-0 [0] 
[11:57] <sepheebear> DaveyJ: then check dmesg for sound stuff also take a look at mixer settings
[11:57] <jrib> silverman: maybe this is more what you want: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/20
[11:57] <Nicole> there is no one????? I ve heard about mercury
[11:57] <Nicole> but it's hard to install :(
[11:58] <boink> Buglouse: are you using the darkice .deb?
[11:58] <rcmiv> does anyone know a good irc channel for motherboard/processor questions?
[11:58] <silverman> jrib: yah that nice... now i'll read this site hope it work the way i want it http://linux.about.com/od/ubupck_doc/a/ubupg12t07.htm
[11:58] <Buglouse> i think so.. I used Synaptic to get it
[11:59] <boink> have you tried to do the stream in ogg?
[11:59] <kuiper> kuiper@Kuiper:~$ sudo smbmount //DRAKE/harm/muziek /home/kuiper/Desktop/MUZIEK
[11:59] <kuiper> Password:
[11:59] <kuiper> 12304: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)
[11:59] <kuiper> SMB connection failed
[11:59] <kuiper> oooops :S
[11:59] <boink> ouch
[11:59] <kuiper> sorry
[11:59] <THX-1138> freenode #hardware
[11:59] <Buglouse> no i havn't... i will try different options
[11:59] <boink> see if it works in ogg
[11:59] <THX-1138> Hi Seveas
[11:59] <Buglouse> but i need it do stream in mp3
[11:59] <RobHu> Hi - I'm watching a film on a projector on my laptop on Edgy, and about ever 10 minutes the screen blanks. In power management I have it set to 'Neer' for putting the display to sleep, but this hasn't helped. Is there something else that needs changing? Something at the CLI perhaps?
[11:59] <Seveas> hi THX-1138
[11:59] <boink> yes, but see if it's working in ogg
[11:59] <RobHu> Never not neer..
[11:59] <Buglouse> boink: Still has the Lame Errpr
[11:59] <rcmiv> trying to figure out if I can stick a core2duo proc in an Intel D875PBZ board
[12:00] <boink> even while doing an ogg stream?
[12:00] <Buglouse> boink: Still has the Lame Error*
[12:00] <Buglouse> boink: yes
[12:00] <boink> that is really bizarre
[12:00] <Buglouse> boink: I know... i was like what the hell..
[12:00] <boink> are you streaming to an icecast server?
[12:00] <kuiper> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26020/ < However i can connect fine with smbclient using the same password :S
[12:00] <Buglouse> ShoutCast
[12:00] <kuiper> so now what?
[12:00] <boink> ohhh, that's a problem
[12:01] <Buglouse> ..
[12:01] <boink> shoutcast doesn't support ogg