TheGateKeeperdennister: well one of the tar statements in that howto is actually incorrect so may be you didn't creat a tar correctly?12:11
LeeJunFandme: that's the only way I've done it - I've never used a gui installer for linux. :)12:11
dmewhen it displays the partition info, i don't recall that it calls any of them /boot12:11
dennisterahhhhhhh...perhaps....if directions are wrong, results r wrong...12:11
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dennisternot surprising then...what's incorrect abotu the howto?12:12
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LeeJunFandme: just create a new partition on the first drive as ext3, you can go into the properties by pressing enter while that one is highlighted and change the mount point to /boot12:12
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dennister<----------is always nervous without good backups12:12
dmeLeeJunFan: recommendations?  (it's calling my disks hdc and hdd): /boot should be on hd? and how big? swap should be on hd? and how big?12:13
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TheGateKeeperdennister: hmmm looks like it has been edited, the first tar statement didn't do what you wanted to do because it was incorrectly formatted12:13
LeeJunFandme: /boot should be on one, and swap on the other, of equal size is the easiest way to manage it and you probably want at least 512M for swap.12:14
LeeJunFandme: so /boot on hdc, SWAP on hdd 512M for both.12:15
LeeJunFandme: the 2 drives are of exactly equal size/type?12:15
dmeyes, they are12:15
dennisterwait...i used the howto that looked like that one, but it wasn't in the forum...it was in the ubuntu.com support pages, documentation12:15
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dmei bought two (used) 2.1 Gb drives, same manu/model12:16
dmea buck a piece12:16
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TheGateKeeperdennister: I think they carried the mistake over, probable still there12:16
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dennistergatekeeper, i think i should dig out my systemrescuecd, and learn how to use partimage :-)12:17
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NicoleDo you know a msn to ue microphone an web cam12:17
dennisteri'd tried installing partimage on my hdd, but apparently you shouldn't12:17
dmebrb - phone call12:17
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LeeJunFandme: you'll get more speed out of the raid0 if they are on different IDE channels. ie. hda or hdb for the first drive, and hdc or hdd on the second.12:18
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dennistergatekeeper, let's leave this for now...i will make a good backup b4 i start deleting things12:19
dennisterthank you :-)12:19
TheGateKeeperdennister: ok, time for me to go to sleep anyway12:19
TheGateKeeperdennister: yw :-)12:20
dennisterhave a great night then12:20
LeeJunFananyone know the easiest way to find the oldest file in a dir?12:20
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dennistergeneral question: what's the best file-sharing program for kubuntu?12:20
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fdovingsamba :)12:20
|lostbyte|dennister, ktorrent12:21
fdovingor nfs.12:21
SanneLeeJunFan: switch to detailed list view, sort by "Modified"12:21
dennisterhi lostbyte!12:21
|lostbyte|dennister, hi.12:21
dennisterktorrent isn't uploading anything...can't find any directions to configure it properly12:21
dennisterand i know my isp does traffic-shaping, so i need to configure that12:22
LeeJunFanSanne: yeah, maybe, if I -R though I bet it will only sort per dir, I want to find the oldest file in my $HOME.12:22
dennisterbesides: ktorrent, while downloading, downloads for seconds, stalls, downloads, stalls...it would take forever to download a measly 1-hr television show12:23
ubotuazureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo12:24
SanneLeeJunFan: ah. I'm sure you can do some magic with the "find" command, but I'm not very versed with that. Hmmm, you could use the find files gui in Konqui, search for all files *.*. and sort the result by modified, perhaps?12:24
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire12:24
dennisteri used to use azureious successfully in windows...but in kubuntu it crashes constantly, worse in kde than in gnome12:24
dennisterbesides...it has a horrible kind of bloat12:24
LeeJunFanSanne: yeah, I can easily find files older than +mtime but to find the oldest. of course I could use exec to ls -l each file, owell. I'll figure something out - find was my first guess but I was hoping for simpler.12:25
dennisterhmmmm, frostwire, eh?12:25
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dennisteri'll look into it...i'd love to use bitlord again...so easy12:26
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dmeLeeJunFan, i'm now creating the 1st partition on the 1st harddisk; 500Mb; its asking me primary or logical?12:27
SanneLeeJunFan: well, I just tested my second way, using Tools/Find File in Konqui, search for *.*, and sorted the resulting list  by modified. Works nicely, acutally.12:27
LeeJunFandme: primary is fine12:27
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dmeLeeJunFan, boot flag on or off (on i would think)12:29
LeeJunFandme: on is safe, I don't think it matters with grub with linux.12:30
dmei'm now on the 500Mb partition on the 2nd hard drive: primary also?12:31
dmethat is, the swap partition12:31
LeeJunFanSanne: yeah, I'll have to craft find to do it - ls with -R sorts each dir individually.12:31
dme(i haven't yet done the RAID partition on the 1st hd... thought i'd get the two 500Mb parts first)12:32
LeeJunFanSanne: I'm trying to weed out old unused stuff from $HOME, I haven't started with a clean $HOME since like 1998, thru about 20 different computers and such and I keep the same $HOME dir. hehe12:32
LeeJunFanI'm sure I have files that are probably lurking around more than 5 years old that I don't need.12:33
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vgeis there a program that i ca use to see whats my largest file in the hardrive?12:34
LeeJunFandme: yeah, that's good. get those out of the way.12:34
SanneLeeJunFan: 1998!! Wow, that's long. Well, if I think about it, I also still have some files from my first Debian accompanying me from system to system... heh.12:34
dmeLeeJunFan: i now have hdc as 500Mb primary /boot, hdd 500Mb primary swap, nothing else set up yet12:34
dmeLeeJunFan: i'm setting up the 1st raid partition (hdc) - primary or logical ?12:35
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LeeJunFandme: okay, unfortunatly trying to do this from memory I'm not exactly sure what options to use for setting up the other 2 parts, but I think you want to make the partitions and set the partition types to raid on both of them.12:35
LeeJunFandme: you can use primary on all of them. since you'll only have 2 partitions on each drive it's not a problem.12:35
Karol84PLHello, i've got a stupid question, but i can't find an answer. I've clicked on "hide menu" in Konqueror. How to restore it back?12:36
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SanneKarol84PL: ctrl-m12:37
Karol84PLSanne: thanks :-)12:37
SanneKarol84PL: you're welcome :)12:38
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dmeLeeJunFan... i might have screwed up: i got my 4 partitions set up, at then could have selected "write partition info and (goto next step)" or "Configure software RAID"; i chose configure software raid12:40
dmeLeeJunFan: it told me that changes had to be written (continued)12:40
scott_hi all12:40
scott_has anyone installed Java?12:40
scott_on Kubuntu?12:40
Hawkwindscott_: All sorts of us have12:41
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository12:41
LeeJunFanSanne: haha! I have a lot of files from '97 even! and one from 96!12:41
LeeJunFanSanne: find . -printf "%TY %p\n" | sort -n | less12:41
SanneLeeJunFan: you should start a file museum ;)12:41
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SanneLeeJunFan: thanks for the command, will keep it for later.12:42
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dmeLeeJunFan so, it wrote the changes, and took me to the RAID configure screen; i selected create md device, and put an X in both of the RAID partitions; when i selected "continue", it just took me back to the "create md device, delete md device, finish" menu, so I selected "create md device" AGAIN, and then it gave me a red screen with the error message "no Linux RAID Autodetect" devices available... stuck now12:43
HawkwindLeeJunFan: What does the year date in the files mean ?  The year they were originally written/coded ?12:43
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LeeJunFanHawkwind: actually it's the year they were last modified.12:44
HawkwindLeeJunFan: Last modified ?  I've got files with dates of 1986, which is simply amazing12:45
LeeJunFanI imagine I'd find even dustier files with ctime.12:45
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LeeJunFanhow in the h!@# do you have files older than linux?12:45
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dmeLeeJunFan: was i supposed to set up 2 md devices, and then use the LVM to turn them into a striped set?12:45
HawkwindLeeJunFan: I have xu4 installed, which is a game from 1984 :P12:46
LeeJunFandme: I don't think so - I've never used lvm, I just created 2 partitions as raid, then you should see an md0 device which you can then create / partition in, and format.12:46
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HawkwindLeeJunFan: 1986 ./u4/src/ULTIMA4/BRICK.CON12:47
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matthew_can anyone help me w/ setting up WPA2?12:50
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LeeJunFanHawkwind: change the %A to  for ctime.12:52
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LeeJunFanHawkwind: oddly all my ctimes are 2006 or newer those must have been changed when I copied them but it kept the modified attrib of the orig.12:53
LeeJunFanHawkwind: sorry %T to  for ctime.12:54
LeeJunFanHawkwind: sorry %T to \ for ctime.12:54
LeeJunFanugh.. substitution12:54
LeeJunFanHawkwind: sorry %T to %C for ctime.12:54
fdovingmatthew_: i think this also should work for wpa2. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo12:54
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flaccidsynaptic is a gtk app?12:55
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flaccidqt package manager for ubuntu?12:55
fdovingflaccid: adept12:55
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CapnCookon a fresh install of kubuntu dapper Konqueror locks up the system after using it for a few minutes12:56
HawkwindLeeJunFan: Yeah.  With that everything is 2006 as it should be since this install of Dapper is 100% fresh for the most part12:56
CapnCookdoes anyone have a solution?12:56
matthew_fdoving i've tried that i've got wpa_supplicant to work but can't connect to my network12:56
flaccidfdoving: ah ok cool. adept kinda sux :)12:56
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fdovingflaccid: you can try 'smartpm' if you want something else. can't tell you much about it though.. it's there,  you can test it :)12:57
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dmeLeeJunFan: i'm not using a RAID card - just 2 ide hd's. i hope i didn't give the impression i was using a raid card12:58
LeeJunFandme: no, software raid is how I did it too.12:59
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CapnCookis anyone else having trouble with the dapper security repo being slow?01:00
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LeeJunFandme: I have /dev/sdb5 and /dev/sda5 set as linux raid partitions, then they are accessed as md0, after you create the 2 partitions as raid you can then create the / partition inside md0.01:02
LeeJunFansda/sdb - mine are scsi.01:02
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brendonjthi there one and all  just a quick question  if i may?01:06
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:06
fdovingand good nite. :)01:07
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brendonjti am looking at installing edgy, just wondering has the bug with frostwire been fixed there yet?01:08
Dr_williswhat bug?01:08
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shadowhywindwhen does edgy offically release?01:08
ubotuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases01:08
brendonjthang on i'll just find it for you01:08
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shadowhywindi know it gets released sometime this month, i was more aiming for a day01:09
Dr_willisif you want it now.. update to it now. :P01:09
Dr_willisthat way there wont be a huge rush the day its released01:09
fdovingshadowhywind: ~ 28th01:10
dmehey, Dr Willis, nice to see you...01:10
dmeLeeJunFan, you still there?  AAAAAAGH do i feel like an idiot01:10
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dmeLeeJunFan: the created md/raid device was there the whole time - in other words, i did it right - i just couldn't see it because it was scrolled off the bottom of the selection window01:11
LeeJunFandme: heh, happens.01:11
dmeLeeJunFan: so, my question is, now that i have a raid partition, do i go ahead and format it ext3?01:11
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NicoleHis pls I need help, I installed mercury msn , but I can't open it , 'cos I get a fatal error01:13
brendonjtDr_willis:  this is the error that i get runFrost.sh: 44: Syntax error: "(" unexpected (expecting "}")01:13
Nicolewhat can I DO01:13
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LeeJunFandme: I think you need to go into md0 and set it to be /01:14
dmedid htat01:14
dmedid that01:14
LeeJunFandme: then format and install as normal from there.01:14
LeeJunFanso yeah, format it as ext3 and install.01:14
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dmei guess then that linux automatically installs itself to root?01:14
Dr_willisbrendonjt,  sounds like a typo in the startup script01:14
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brendonjtDr_willis:  under dapper it works no problems  with out a hitch01:15
flaccidfdoving: cheers01:16
dmeaaa! this is SO kewl!  i barely know Linux and yet i just set up a raid system... (dme checks the mirror to see if he has a halo)01:16
Nicolewhat can I DO01:16
NicoleHis pls I need help, I installed mercury msn , but I can't open it , 'cos I get a fatal error01:16
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Dr_willis!info mercury01:16
ubotumercury: A new logic/functional programming language. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.0.rotd.20040511-5 (dapper), package size 24708 kB, installed size 109984 kB01:16
LeeJunFandme: yeah01:17
dmei'll be signing off for now01:17
LeeJunFandme: everything is in /, you can make other partitions if you wish, like /usr, /lib/, /var etc... but if you only have / it will make those dirs in root.01:17
dmeLeeJunFan: thanks for all your help... i couldn't have done it w/o u explaining that boot not a raid partition stuff, etc...01:18
NicoleDr_willis whatis mercury01:19
Rafflesia-brbAnybody had any luck with installing FreeCiv?01:19
Dr_willisNicole,  i was asking the same thing. :)01:19
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Dr_willisMercury is a Java-based MSN client (and slowly upcoming Jabber client). http://www.mercury.to/01:20
DaSkreechRafflesia: apt-get install freeciv? :)01:20
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Nicolesorry I am back01:20
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RafflesiaI'll try that next01:20
NicoleDr_willis, that's a messenger01:21
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Dr_willisNicole,  if you are having problems with a JAVA program. I suggest being SURE you are using the SUN java. NOT the Gij java packages01:22
PetiAnyone knows how to upgrade from breezy to dapper?01:22
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Dr_willisNicole,  if 'java -version' does NOT reply with --->  java version "1.5.0_06"01:22
Dr_willisJava(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_06-b0501:22
menacewhy is it that the files that im trying to download on ktorrent keep stalling?01:22
Dr_willisThen i suggest updating your java, and checking the 'update-alternative java' section of the !java  wiki page01:22
NicoleDr_willis, I got this Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_06-b05)01:23
Dr_willisNicole,  looks lik eyour java is ok then..01:23
brendonjtPeti: make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed,  then change the enteries in your sources.list from breezy to dapper,  then sudo apt-get up date  then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:23
nutshell42menace: ktorrent used to be a PoS, try azureus01:23
NicoleDr_willis, can I paste you the fatal error01:24
Hawkwindmenace: That's not a ktorrent issue.  That's probably a server or ISP issue01:24
nutshell42menace: btw. this is not just "you don't use what I use so it's sh*t"; I really tried ktorrent01:24
Hawkwindmenace: There is nothing wrong with ktorrent, that is merely one persons opinion01:24
DaSkreechnutshell42: 2.0?01:24
nutshell42but it's buggy and often slow01:24
nutshell42when azureus is not01:24
DaSkreech2.0 is a lot nicer01:24
menaceuhm...theres something wrong with my azureus installation01:24
HawkwindI use ktorrent 2.0.2 without issues01:24
menaceill pastebin it01:24
Dr_willisNicole,  wont do much good.. :P01:24
menacecould someone tell me the pastebin link please?01:24
Dr_willisNicole,  i know little about java..01:24
nutshell42DaSkreech: yes; but still, too many issues01:24
DaSkreechRafflesia: what did you try first?01:24
NicoleDr_willis, :(01:25
Hawkwindmenace: Azureus is nothing but a HUGE memory hog.  I'd certainly use something a bit lighter01:25
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NicoleDr_willis, that's sad01:25
Rafflesiathe package menu01:25
nutshell42often it *will* work, unlike older versions, but sometimes not01:25
Dr_willisNicole,  i am guessing you downloaded the debian package?01:25
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:25
NicoleDr_willis, yes01:25
DaSkreechRafflesia: Always try apt-get first :)01:25
Hawkwindnutshell42: Again, that's not a ktorrent issue.  That's an issue on your system or the server01:25
DaSkreech You may not always get the latest bling but ti will save a lot of headaches01:25
Nicolethis is the error" java.lang.RuntimeException: No permission to write /usr/lib/mercury/Mercury.lax."01:26
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Dr_willisNicole,  its possible theres some debian/ubuntu differance01:26
nutshell42Hawkwind: why does azureus work then?01:26
menacethats what it showed when i tried to install azureus-------->>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26025/01:26
nutshell42or most other clients01:26
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Hawkwindnutshell42: Try configuring ktorrent correctly and it will too.  I had the same issue when I first started using ktorrent.  I configured it correctly and now it just....works01:26
nutshell42I've never really used anything besides azureus, that old command-line thingy and ktorrent01:26
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DaSkreechRafflesia: Might have to do a freeciv-server as well01:27
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HawkwindAzureus is too much of a memory hog. It takes up tons and tons of memory where any other torrent app doesn't01:27
nutshell42Hawkwind: and what should I do, oh wise one01:27
Dr_willisNicole,  you realize that sudo mercury   works? :P01:27
nutshell42it needs about 100MB01:27
nutshell42if that's too much use a smaller client01:27
Hawkwindnutshell42: As mentioned, play with the settings.  Your settings won't be the same as mine.  It took me a good 3 - 4 days to get them right and now it never fails01:27
RafflesiaI guess I'm going to have to play around with it01:27
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nutshell42if not azureus features are nice01:27
Dr_willisNicole,  run it first as root.. then as a user...01:28
NicoleDr_willis, there is a version for salckware and for red hat too01:28
Hawkwindnutshell42: Azureus much more than 100MB unfortunately.  I have a P4 3.2GHz HT with 2GB RAM and azureus is horrible to use.  But that's my opinion01:28
nutshell42Hawkwind: I really don't see what those things should change, apart from an upload limit01:28
Dr_willisNicole,  its working for me01:28
DaSkreechRafflesia: Can't find it?01:28
nutshell42Hawkwind: then you must configure it right =P01:28
RafflesiaI seem to have a lot of dependency problems01:28
DaSkreechRafflesia: It's in universe01:28
Hawkwindnutshell42: Ktorrent has lots of plugins and stuff enabled by default.  Try looking at the app a bit before calling it crap and telling everyone not to use it01:29
DaSkreechAh. GTk :)01:29
menaceanyone have any idea on the problem at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26025/?01:29
RafflesiaShould I install the server first?01:29
Dr_willisI perfer ktorrent also.01:29
DaSkreechI don't think it matters what order you install them in01:29
DaSkreech as long as you run the server before the client01:29
RafflesiaSure doesn't.  Same dependency problems.01:30
DaSkreechWhat problems?01:30
Rafflesianot up-to-date copy of libc601:31
DaSkreechWhat version is it looking for>01:31
NicoleDr_willis, my dear doctor you are a genius01:31
NicoleDr_willis, thanx01:31
nutshell42Hawkwind: then it shouldn't enable those plugins; I know I went over all the options and tried to use common sense; if I need some special guide because the options labels are crappy then it's not my fault01:31
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DaSkreechWhat version do you have?01:32
Dr_willisNicole,  :) when ya installed the deb - it soft of said to run as root to update.. so i just ran it as root to let it update...01:32
nutshell42menace: does it hang after that?01:32
brendonjtjust had a look  seems  frostwire is incompatible with edgy grrr01:33
menacenutshell42: what do you mean by hang?01:33
nutshell42Hawkwind: ktorrent nevertheless tended to stall or slow down on d/ls and the other clients didn't01:33
nutshell42menace: oh sry, you use adept?01:33
menacenutshell42: no, i used konsole01:33
nutshell42then, did the apt-get hang after the msgs you posted?01:34
menaceit went to a new prompt01:34
menacebut i figured the x error bad device wasnt good...01:34
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LeeJunFannutshell42: I had way better luck with ktorrent after I compiled it myself from the newest version on the ktorrent webpage. As far as the stalling goes. newest ktorrent does a better job of finding peers apparently.01:35
nutshell42menace: unless you have some real problems suddenly, just ignore them =)01:35
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menaceLeeJunFan: where could i get the newest version from?...adept doesnt seem to have it01:36
nutshell42that undefined symbol is probably a problem with different versions for different packages01:36
DaSkreechRafflesia: Hmm mine is asking for that version not the 2.3.301:36
RafflesiaWhich package?01:37
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nutshell42LeeJunFan: I try it once every few months01:37
Rafflesia2.3.3 I can cover01:37
scott___I was able to download sun java..but I am having a hard time installing it?01:37
nutshell42but my azureus never used more than 150MB memory and I can live with that; so until ktorrent works out of the box, I'll stay with azureus01:37
nutshell42even though the java interface is *slow* =)01:38
DaSkreechRafflesia: What are you apt-getting?01:38
Dr_williswine utorrent.exe01:38
trappistscott___: don't do it that way.  enable the multiverse repository and just sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre01:38
Cholitowhat about ktorrent?01:38
LeeJunFannutshell42: ktorrent.org01:38
RafflesiaI'm a real noob.  Spell it out.01:38
scott___how do I enable the multiverse repository?01:38
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:38
trappist!multiverse > scott___01:38
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Dr_willis!white and nerdy01:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about white and nerdy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:40
DaSkreechRafflesia: How are you installing it?01:41
Rafflesiapackage menu01:42
coreymon77i have a question01:43
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coreymon77my current linksys wireless network card has a rt2500 chip in it01:43
coreymon77and it is interface ra001:43
coreymon77its dying01:43
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coreymon77im thinking of getting a dlink card since i have heard they are of good quality01:44
coreymon77what would that be01:44
coreymon77interface what01:44
coreymon77and what would i use to connect to it01:44
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coreymon77would i use iwconfig or something else?01:44
KrAmMeRso i still cannot find libxine-extracodecs01:45
KrAmMeRand i have the universe repositories01:45
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB01:45
thoreauputicit's in multiverse01:45
KrAmMeRyeh thats wut i mean01:45
KrAmMeR: /01:45
thoreauputicsudo apt-get update  ;)01:45
Dr_willissudo apt-get me a beer01:46
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KrAmMeRi've done all the updates01:46
KrAmMeRits just not there01:46
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KrAmMeRtheres other libxine stuff01:46
KrAmMeRbut not libxine-extracodecs01:46
thoreauputicKrAmMeR: yes it is - you have a configuration problem01:46
KrAmMeRi dunno wut im doing wrong01:47
thoreauputicKrAmMeR: check your /etc/apt/sources.list01:47
coreymon77what would the interface be called and what would i use with it?01:47
KrAmMeRthoreauputic: what am i looking for in there01:48
DaSkreechRafflesia: Do you know how to use adept?01:48
HawkwindKrAmMeR: Maybe you should put your sources.list into http://pastebin.ulteo.us for all of us to see01:48
thoreauputicKrAmMeR: make sure there are no typos :) and see if you have "multiverse" repos - not just backports multiverse etc01:49
thoreauputicKrAmMeR: usually adding the word multiverse at the end of each universe line will do it01:49
KrAmMeRthere it is01:49
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HawkwindKrAmMeR: There's your problem01:50
thoreauputicKrAmMeR: you only have backports multiverse in that list01:50
HawkwindKrAmMeR: You only have multiverse enabled for backports01:50
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KrAmMeRso go back into adept?01:50
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HawkwindKrAmMeR: You need to add universe and multiverse to the other lines as well01:50
KrAmMeRoh ok01:51
HawkwindKrAmMeR: Just edit it manually:  kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list   Replace kwrite with your favorite GUI editor01:51
thoreauputicKrAmMeR: add multiverse to the universe lines, save and update01:51
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KrAmMeRi think i gotta use the viv program01:52
dmeanybody know of a utility to keep your Favorites/Bookmarks synchronized between different browsers/computers (example: i use IE and Firefox on my win box, and Konquerer on Kubuntu; i want some way to keep all 3 browsers favorites/bookmarks synchronized)01:52
KrAmMeRwouldn't let me get into the others01:52
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tobias__my yabber wont work:(01:52
DaSkreechRafflesia: There?01:52
KrAmMeRerr wuts its called again?01:52
HawkwindKrAmMeR: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list01:53
KrAmMeRah yes01:53
thoreauputicKrAmMeR:  kdesu kate "/etc/apt/sources.list"  < you need sudo rights01:53
thoreauputicor use vi if you are used to vi01:53
Hawkwindthoreauputic: He tried last night and he can't open any editor with kdesu unfortunately01:53
thoreauputicHawkwind: how odd01:53
thoreauputicnano is easier than vi if you aren't used to vi :)01:54
KrAmMeRdo i just put multiverse after universe01:54
KrAmMeRso it would look like...01:54
thoreauputicKrAmMeR: yes, at the end of the lines01:54
coreymon77hawk, do you know anything about wireless network cards01:54
HawkwindKrAmMeR: Yes01:54
Hawkwindcoreymon77: Nope01:54
KrAmMeRdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse01:54
thoreauputicKrAmMeR: right01:55
HawkwindKrAmMeR: Yes01:55
coreymon77does anyone here know anything about wireless network cards01:55
dmedifferent question: i get tired of seeing all of the "... has quit (err msg)" "... has joined #kubuntu" "... is now known as ..." where do i find the help info to change these settings?01:55
Dr_willisI know that they can be a real PAIN01:55
Dr_williswhat irc client dme ?01:55
dmeBerSirc for Windows01:56
dmeno settings of that nature in this client01:56
dmei was hoping it was an irc server thing01:56
thoreauputicdme: how are we supposed to know how to configure a windows client?01:56
KrAmMeRdo i just press esc to save?01:57
dmeu know, like /noshowjoinmessages01:57
thoreauputicKrAmMeR: hit esc then type :wq01:57
SquatchQuick question.  Trying to get xvkbd & xbindkeys so that I can use all the buttons on my mouse, but when I "apt-get install xvkbd xbindkeys" I get "Couldn't find package xvkbd"...  Any suggestions?01:57
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coreymon77my rt2500 card is interface ra001:58
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coreymon77and use iwconfig01:58
KrAmMeRok all saved now01:58
dmeinteresting suggestion, Dr_Willis - as usual, u thought of an approach outside of my mental box... hehe01:58
coreymon77a dlink card would be what interface and use what tool?01:58
thoreauputicKrAmMeR:  sudo apt-get update01:58
Dr_willisdme,  theres free and non free version of xcha\t for windows.01:58
thoreauputicKrAmMeR: then try installing libxine-extracodecs again01:59
dmedme's mental box has only adaptors for free software01:59
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KrAmMeRthere it is!02:00
KrAmMeRthanks guys02:00
HawkwindKrAmMeR: You're welcome02:00
MotorCityMadManhello: where can i find KDE protocols ?02:01
dmemotorcitymadman, protocols for what?02:01
dmemore specific, please02:01
theosibAnyone know how to get X11 man pages?02:02
KrAmMeRis there any other useful package you think i should get?02:02
scott___I can see java in adept...how do I install it?02:02
theosibHow about man pages for math functions like sqrt?02:03
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DaSkreechRafflesia: Heeellloooo02:04
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otaku-sanHawkwind: I'm trying to find your screenshots....but can't locate em'.  Do you think you could post the link?02:05
MotorCityMadMandme: protocol handlers, called KIO slaves, that know how to serve up data from new and unusual sources, such as CDs02:06
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ubotushockwave is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave02:09
SquatchHow do I add a repository so that apt-get can find xvkbd?02:10
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MotorCityMadManfound the protocols in kinfocenter02:11
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Hawkwindotaku-san: I have some at http://SeerOfSouls.com/gallery and some at http://SeerOfSouls.com/screenshots/02:12
otaku-sanHawkwind: Thanks!02:13
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otaku-sanHawkwind: do you happen to know/remember the icon set you have on the KDE screenshot with the really white girl in your SoS gallery02:18
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MotorCityMadMandme: exsample, by typing info:gcc in konqueror will bring up info pages for gcc. just faster for resreach02:19
MotorCityMadManor type man:gcc02:20
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sbcl3hi, what is the password for 'ubuntu' on a live CD?02:20
LjLsbcl3: no password, i think02:21
thoreauputicsbcl3: there isn't one02:21
thoreauputicsbcl3: just do  sudo <command>02:21
sbcl3i locked my session02:21
sbcl3i cant get back into it02:21
LjLwell, just pressing enter doesn't work?02:21
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sbcl3i'm serious, it doesn't unlock02:23
LjLi realize that you're serious, i just don't know the answer02:23
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LjLperhaps it's even just a bug -- the session locker might not like empty passwords02:23
flaccidDoes anyone have mplayerplug-in working with Opera ?02:24
sbcl3okay then...is there a quick way to kill it at the shell?02:24
MotorCityMadMan camera:/ in the address line will give you a thumbnail look of pictures on a camera connected to pc02:24
otaku-sansbcl3: just hit the power button...it won't hurt it.  You can just start your box back up and everything should work02:24
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sbcl3i'd rather kill it02:25
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sbcl3heh...that's a lame bug...no one has had this problem?02:25
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otaku-sansbcl3: I had to hard shut down my box a couple of times with the live cd in...because it is the live cd....and running straight off the disc02:26
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otaku-sansbcl3: it won't hurt...anyways anything you do on the live cd won't be saved in the first place02:27
sbcl3i have some services running02:27
otaku-sansbcl3: like what02:27
sbcl3not true02:27
LjLsbcl3: i just tried unlocking by killing from the shell, but i ended up with unusable keyboard and mouse02:27
Hawkwindotaku-san: Give me the URL to the image02:27
sbcl3otaku-san: i have 6 partitions mounted and bittorent running02:28
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otaku-sanHawkwind: http://seerofsouls.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=14&pos=002:28
MrMazdaanyone know which deb fsck comes from? I get segfault trying to run it (edgy)02:29
Hawkwindotaku-san: Ah, that isn't my screenshot.  That was DragonSpirits and I'm not sure on the icon set.  Maybe something similar to Gant02:29
otaku-sansbcl3: what?  I understand the partitions....but why a bittorrent?  It's okay to kill the bittorrent...anything you download won't work or install.02:29
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nukuflaccid: i had mplayerplug-in running with opera..02:30
flaccidnuku: not anymore?02:30
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nukuflaccid: i switched to kaffeine-mozilla as i like it more02:30
otaku-sanHawkwind: Ahhhh...ok I'll try looking for Gant.  I've seen it somewhere else before I got Linux...and was like "hey I want to put that on my KDE"02:30
flaccidnuku: can that embed?02:30
nukuflaccid: it just starts kaffeine when a plugin is on a page02:31
nukuflaccid: no02:31
otaku-sanhehehehe...poor sbcl302:31
nukuflaccid: but so you can switch fullscreen and things like that.. but its personal preference..02:31
flaccidnuku: problem with that is a page with more than 1 video02:31
otaku-sanHawkwind: thanks for trying to help me02:31
flaccidnuku: could you just test and see if your mplayerplug-in works atm ?02:31
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nukuflaccid: ok.. i think for mplayerplugin you have to build your own version with gtk disabled02:31
flaccidnuku: oh. have you got anymore info?02:32
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nukuflaccid: well do apt-get build-dep mplayerplug-in02:33
nukusorrsy :)02:33
nukui am not quite sober anymore :P02:33
flaccidw0a what does that command do?02:34
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nukuflaccid: fetch all build dependencies for the package02:34
nukuso you have everything needed to build it for your own02:34
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flaccidthen i d/l the source from their website and compile?02:34
nukuflaccid: for example. but.. do ./configure --enable-x02:35
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flaccidyeah i know how to compile :)02:35
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nukuwell the --enable-x is important02:35
Nicolehello, I got a Video CApture Kworld card and I am connecting my video camara, but I don't know where to start, what can I do02:35
flaccidnuku: and disable gtk?02:36
nukushould. .yes..02:36
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nukujust use --enable-x this should work fine02:36
nukuhttp://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=131761 .. look here for example02:36
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flaccidnuku:  i get E: Unable to find a source package for mplayerplug-in when doing the build-dep command02:37
nukuuhm maybe i spelled something wrong ..02:38
nukuyou are right02:38
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nukuthis is strange :) maybe the pkg is broken.. just try to fetch source and build it and get the -dev packages if there is missing something02:39
MotorCityMadManhello: ls /var/cache/apt/archives brings up a ton of .deb files. can these be cleaned up nicely without making kubuntu mad ?02:40
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thoreauputicMotorCityMadMan: yes, just do   sudo apt-get clean02:40
adrianocno consigo instalar o kde verso ptbr02:41
MotorCityMadManthoreauputic: very nice, ty02:41
nukuflaccid: but in general apt-get build-dep pkgname should work02:41
MotorCityMadMani will remember that code02:42
thoreauputicMotorCityMadMan: no problem :) If you only want to clean out old debs use  sudo apt-get autoclean02:42
otaku-sanHawkwind: I found the icon set!  It's called Umicons 2.0   Gant is a similar icon set for something else02:42
Hawkwindotaku-san: Yeah I just found the umicons on my system in fact and was about to tell you :P02:43
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Hawkwindotaku-san: I am however uploading over 40,000 icons to my gallery right now.  I should have them all posted up there later tonight02:43
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otaku-sanHawkwind: Sweet....The coolest thing about Linux is how you can change from one thing to a complete other...never a dull moment!02:44
flaccidnuku: hmm yeah need these dev deps02:45
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MotorCityMadManthoreauputic: the disk cache is 51% and application is 38%. this is eatting memory up. how do i bring these numbers down ?02:46
Admiral_Chicago!es > ubuntu_02:46
thoreauputicMotorCityMadMan: umm - I don't follow you - where is this output coming from?02:47
nukuflaccid: maybe read the forum thread i posted it should be mentioned what -dev packages are needed to build this..02:47
thoreauputicMotorCityMadMan: in general linux uses as much memory as it can - it's more efficient02:47
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MotorCityMadManthoreauputic: kde info center/ memory view02:48
flaccidnuku: don't think it does hey02:48
Admiral_Chicagowhat is the command to do that in konsole?02:48
thoreauputicMotorCityMadMan: see above - type  free -m  in a terminal and look at the second line - it's more relevant02:48
flaccidyeah its normal for *nix boxes to use all the memory available02:48
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Admiral_Chicagobut it's for processing, not like windows hogging the memory, *nix uses it proactively02:49
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MotorCityMadMan-/+ buffers/cache:  used 382  free   62102:50
flaccidi have 18mb free. sometimes 1 or 0 :)02:51
MotorCityMadManphysical memory=1003 MB free=45MB but i did make a 10GB swap. just incase02:52
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flaccidthats pretty fat02:53
MotorCityMadManSysinfo for 'Kubuntu': Linux 2.6.15-27-amd64-generic running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: AMDAthlon643400+ at 1004 MHz (2012 bogomips), , RAM: 959/1003MB, 135 proc's, 7.29h up02:53
nukuyes there is no point in wasting free memory .. this can always be used as cache :)02:53
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MotorCityMadManok, getting the point of not wasting a good thing02:54
flaccidmy dedicated server maxes out 512mb ram. if i put more in it would prolly chew up a few more 100mb if it can02:55
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MotorCityMadMananyways i will add 1GB more just for fun02:56
plutoIs Kubuntu faster than Ubuntu?02:56
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Dr_williswith a fast enough macine - i doubt ya can tell the differance.02:56
Dr_willisI cant tell the diff onmy 2.5 ghz amd64 box02:57
plutoDr_willis: I'm runnint a celeron 300A, do you think I'll notice a difference if I intstall Kubuntu?02:57
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nukupluto: maybe you should go for xubuntu :)02:58
MotorCityMadMana motherboard with about 25 banks for 50GB of RAM will do it i think02:58
MotorCityMadMani am truly mad02:58
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MotorCityMadManjust don't have walking around scense02:59
plutonuku: can you tell me the easiest way to make the switch?  Will I maintain my book marks, files, etc?02:59
trappistI ran kde (on another distro) on a 300mhz box quite happily for a long time, back when kde was much slower than it is now02:59
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nukupluto: hmm probably just install xubuntu-desktop ...but i've never done it :)02:59
nukuthis should keep everything you have in your home dir and hence every bookmark and stuff03:00
trappistpluto: it isn't like installing a new operating system.  it just installs all the packages you need for a nice xfce desktop, which is very lightweight.03:00
Dr_willispluto,  a 300mhz machine?03:00
plutoDr_willis: Yes, that is correct!03:01
nuku300mhz should be enough for everyone :)03:01
Dr_willisYou proberly should use the lightest/smallest window manager you can get by with03:01
trappistyeah, so should 640kb of RAM ;)03:01
Dr_willisxfce (xubuntu) or fluxbox, or others03:01
plutoIt appears to get bogged down - takes a long time for applications to open.03:01
trappistbut seriously.  kde should be pretty OK.  I ran it for years on a 300mhz box back when kde was nasty-slow.  or did I mention that :)03:02
trappistpluto: oh, yeah, you will suffer from that.03:02
nukuwell its more about ram than about cpu with kde03:02
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plutoI'm stoked with ram, 400+ MB03:02
nuku512mb should be fine.. but anyway xfce/fluxbox is more lightwight and faster03:03
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trappistapp startup time is a lot about i/o too.  it can be improved considerably with prelinking, tweaking fontconfig etc.03:03
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faked_I'm having trouble installing libpng so I can run emulators n' stuff, can someone help me through it?03:04
trappistfaked_: you already have libpng installed03:04
faked_>_> if I did Visualboy advance wouldn't error me when I try to configure it.03:05
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trappistfaked_: it may want a different version than you have installed.  if you can see it looking for a particular libpng*.so, try making a symlink to the one you have.03:05
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faked_a symlink?03:06
faked_I'm kinda foreign to linux and I just learn as I go so could you define that please?03:06
trappista symbolic link - a pointer to a file that's just like the file itself03:06
faked_so like a shortcut file on windows?03:06
trappistso when it finds your symlink, it will load your real libpngX.so and hopefully be happy03:06
trappistfaked_: no03:07
nukuwell more like a ntfs link..03:07
trappistfaked_: a windows shortcut file is more like a .desktop file - it's just a text file with info about the file it points to03:07
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trappista symlink is a filesystem feature03:07
nukubut this sounds like really messing around anyway :)03:08
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trappistthat fat32, for example, doesn't have, and that most people don't know about on ntfs03:08
nukumaybe the emulator you want to run is already in the repositories03:08
trappisthey, it is!03:08
trappistsudo apt-get install visualboyadvance03:08
faked_how the hell do you guys know what emulators I'm trying to install >_>03:09
trappistit's in the universe repo03:09
plutoIf I install the KDE desktop, can I switch back to GNOME?03:09
trappistfaked_: you told us03:09
faked_...so I did >_>;03:09
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trappistseparately, there's a frontend - vbaexpress03:09
GrimjawsHeh, trying Kubuntu on Parallels atm, Emulation owns. :)03:10
faked_E: Couldn't find package visualboyadvance03:10
trappist!universe > faked_03:10
trappistfaked_: it's in the universe repository03:10
faked_'the hell does that mean >_>03:11
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trappistfaked_: check your private message.  the bot explained it.03:11
faked_so you're saying I can find VBA in synaptic?03:12
LjLfaked_: Ubuntu's software is contained in repositories. there is a "Main" repository that is enabled by default, because its packages are mantained as part of the core Ubuntu distribution. the "Universe" repository is disabled by default because it contains packages that might not work, and are mantained by different guys. then there's also a "Multiverse" repository, containing stuff that is believed to not be 100% free software03:12
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LjL!info visualboyadvance03:12
nukumaybe the bot should learn to trigger on common keywords (not the !.* ones) and just explain every faq :)03:12
ubotuvisualboyadvance: a full featured Game Boy Advance emulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.7.2-4build1 (dapper), package size 793 kB, installed size 2684 kB03:12
trappistfaked_: once you enable the universe repository, yes.03:12
LjLfaked_: yes03:12
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thompaanyone know how to get my mem stick to show03:12
trappistnuku: I've seen bots that did that.  seems cool at first, but then they get very noisy and are hardly ever right.03:13
faked_oh. well. that's pretty useful then03:13
thompait works in the back not front panel03:13
LjLnuku: that's been discussed, and decided against, afaik03:13
LjLfaked_: yeah, it is...03:13
LjL!packages > faked_03:13
nukuwell there need to be more progress in bot AI development ;)03:13
coreymon77anyone know anything about wireless network cards03:14
trappistnuku: bots will have to be upgraded from python to ruby for that to happen ;)03:14
trappistcoreymon77: you'll have better luck asking a specific question03:14
coreymon77im just collating data03:14
nukutrappist: haha the last bot i ran was an eggdrop one ;)03:14
coreymon77about whats a good wireless network card that will work on dapper out of the box03:14
coreymon77and will work with a linksys  router03:15
coreymon77other than a linksys card03:15
trappistcoreymon77: anything with an atheros chipset will make you very happy03:15
coreymon77cause those are sh*t03:15
coreymon77the chipset isnt the problem03:15
coreymon77ralink works perfectly03:15
coreymon77its the card itself03:15
trappistit's pretty much all about the chipset03:15
coreymon77my linksys card has a ralink chipset03:16
coreymon77and it works perfectly03:16
coreymon77the problem is03:16
coreymon77the card itself is shit03:16
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.03:16
coreymon77and the antenna falls off all the time03:16
coreymon77and i have to get a new one03:16
trappistcoreymon77: then find a card by your favorite manufacturer with an atheros chipset, and you'll be happy03:16
coreymon77i want to know what manufacturer makes a card that isnt sh*t03:17
coreymon77and wont break all the itme!03:17
trappistyou might ask in #hardware for opinions on manufacturing quality.  as far as software compatibility, the chipset is what counts (and is on-topic)03:18
coreymon77let me get, an atheros chipset would be interface ath0 right?03:18
Hawkwindcoreymon77: Purchase an Orinoco Silver or Gold card from ebay for $20.  That's what I did03:18
trappistit is on my box, yeah.  I think it depends which drivers you use.03:18
trappistorinoco will work too, usually.03:19
Hawkwindcoreymon77: I got so tired of fighting with ndiswrapper that I went and purchased a supported card03:19
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trappistand what's the other one, prism03:19
coreymon77i dont need ndiswrapper hawk, iwconfig works with ralink cards03:19
HawkwindI paid $20, that included shipping and everything.  Brand new card in a box, unopened03:19
faked_I can't find the visualboyadvance package, how do I know where to get it?03:19
Hawkwindcoreymon77: I understand that.  I'm telling you my situation and what card works out of the box03:19
coreymon77faked, download it off the site03:19
nukuhehe my orinoco (well more lucent) silver is almost 7 years old now :)03:19
trappistfaked_: you enable the universe repository, then you sudo apt-get install visualboyadvance03:19
Hawkwindfaked_: sudo apt-get install visualboyadvance03:20
Hawkwind!info visualboyadvance03:20
ubotuvisualboyadvance: a full featured Game Boy Advance emulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.7.2-4build1 (dapper), package size 793 kB, installed size 2684 kB03:20
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trappistheh, is extra.  makes it sounds like it wants money.03:20
nukugo for linspire ;)03:21
faked_but HOW do I enable the universe repository?03:21
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:21
trappistfaked_: follow that link03:21
faked_I'm ON that website03:21
Hawkwindtrappist: How's that script coming along :P03:22
trappistfaked_: you add a line to your /etc/apt/sources.list for the universe repo, then sudo apt-get update03:22
trappistHawkwind: I got sidetracked by a failed attempt to upgrade to kde 3.5.5, from which I'm still recovering :)03:22
HawkwindI upgraded to 3.5.5 the other day in my vmware edgy install and haven't noticed any issues03:22
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coreymon77thats why i dont upgrade kde03:23
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nukui upgraded to 3.5.5 without any problems too :)03:23
nuku(on edgy)03:23
coreymon77i wait until its included in a ew stable kubuntu03:23
coreymon77i dont ess with betas03:23
trappistHawkwind: yeah, ran into some dependency problems, had to rebuild kdebase and kdelibs to fix those, ran into some build-dep issues, fixed those... currently rebuilding kdebase.03:23
SquatchHow do you set startup programs in KDE?03:23
HawkwindIt doesn't really bother me if it breaks to the point of being useless since I don't use KDE :)03:23
coreymon77they have too many problems for me03:23
intelikeywhy would nvidia-glx depend on the postdrop group ?03:23
trappistcoreymon77: if it ain't broke, tweak it!03:23
Hawkwindtrappist: Heh yeah I saw all that stuff in the -devel channel.  Looks like quite a mess indeed03:24
coreymon77trappist, i go by the moto, if it aint broke, dont fix it!03:24
trappistcoreymon77: yeah I've heard that one.  that's for girls.03:24
HawkwindIf it ain't broke, play with it til it does break :)03:24
coreymon77thats why im always fixing stuff in windoze :P03:24
HawkwindTis the best way to learn things IMO03:24
intelikeytrappist a man after my own practices03:24
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trappistyeah that's why I upgraded.  I was getting a little too content with everything working all the time.03:24
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trappistnow I'm probably cool for the rest of the day with stuff to fix.03:25
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intelikeydpkg: syntax error: unknown group `postdrop' in statoverride file03:25
intelikeyE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)03:25
intelikeyi know adding the group will probabbly fix that03:25
coreymon77i dont know how to fix things, so i dont try to break them03:26
intelikeybut why would i be getting that error to begin with ?03:26
Hawkwindcoreymon77: That's how you learn to fix them, break them03:26
trappistcoreymon77: but how will you learn how to fix things, with nothing broken to fix?03:26
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trappistI don't usually know how to fix things, until they break03:27
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nukuhehe after 5 years of gentoo fixing things is almost intuitive ;)03:27
coreymon77its good for me03:28
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coreymon77my parents wont let me use linux anymore03:28
trappistnuku: apt must be a dream come true after gentoo03:28
nukuhehe well i used debian before that for some time ;)03:28
trappistcoreymon77: all kidding aside, I think you should fight that one03:29
coreymon77if something in linux breaks03:29
intelikeycoreymon77 so don't use linux.   use fbsd03:29
trappist... you come here03:29
coreymon77my parents wont let me use linux anymore03:29
nukubut binary distributions are not that time consuming .. after many kde updates from source its obvisous what i am talking about ;)03:30
coreymon77so i dont play around with betas so that im sure nothings gonna break03:30
coreymon77well the first thing to usually break is my internet03:30
trappistwell there's nothing wrong with a low tolerance for instability03:31
coreymon77how am i gonna come here if my internet breaks03:31
intelikeywhy would your network fail ?03:31
coreymon77thats what happens when i goof around with stuff03:31
coreymon77something breaks03:31
coreymon77usually my internet03:31
intelikeygoffing in wrong department.03:32
coreymon77i dont know how to fix it, and then my parents stop letting me use linux03:32
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faked_Okay so I got the whole Universe repositories thing done and downloaded the visualboyadvance package...but now I dunno how to install it03:33
faked_I did "sudo apt-get install visualboyadvance" but it said I had the newest version >_>03:33
intelikeyfastduke they just kept going back to the bicycle shop until they got it "wright"03:33
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nukufaked_: so you should be able to run it now ;)03:33
faked_where is it though?03:33
trappistwell I have a wireless connection to a cheap wireless router, connected to a router with a 7-year-old linux distro on it with a flaky nic, going through a dry copper pair for dsl with no phone line, going through a telephone adapter for the VOIP... my internet breaks a lot :)03:33
timthelionis there a program for linux that teaches languages. I want to learn czech.03:33
fastdukecoreymon77, the key is to give yourself a back way out03:34
fastdukesmall changes03:34
fastdukesomething breaks... undo what you just did03:34
coreymon77upgrading kde to a beta is not small change03:34
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fastdukeso run a normal kde plus the beta(if you have enough disk space)03:35
intelikeycoreymon77 one word (acronym that is)  cli03:35
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intelikeybut hey i can break the most rock solid stable things there are  :)03:37
intelikeytook lots of practice.03:37
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nukubreaking things can be so easy if you really want to ;)03:37
coreymon77ive managed to crash kbuntu03:37
coreymon77ive managed to get my home directory deleted in suse 1003:38
coreymon77ive broken so many linuxes it is rediculous03:38
intelikeydelete home is nothing.03:38
intelikeyyeah nothing.03:38
coreymon77you want to know how much that fucked my system (pardon my french)03:38
nukurm -rf * in the wrong place can be much more fun ;)03:38
intelikeyonly as root nuku03:39
coreymon77 i even managed to get windoze to crash on me ;)03:39
intelikeybut a good chmod 644 / -R     as root is lots of fun to fix.03:39
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:39
coreymon77i know03:39
coreymon77i just needed to use that word for the effect of that sentence03:40
HawkwindIf you know, then why did you use it.  Please don't from now on03:40
trappistcoreymon77: not really03:40
HawkwindActually you don't03:40
faked_Okay I have "visualboyadvance express" but I want the full install >_>03:40
coreymon77i wont03:40
faked_I installed the full install package but it doesn't seem to be here >_>03:40
coreymon77ill censor myself from now on03:40
trappistfaked_: there's vbaexpress and visualboyadvance, two separate packages.  one is a front-end for the other.03:41
trappistfaked_: the menu entry is probably for the front end - just run it03:41
faked_what does that mean?03:41
faked_I did run the menu entry03:41
intelikeycoreymon77 removing your home dir is nothing.  i do that just to reset to default setting ....    just sudo mkdir /home/`whoami` && exit03:41
HawkwindMeans one is a GUI for the other03:41
faked_and it says "VBA Express 1.2"03:41
nukufaked_: when launching from konsole its VisualBoyAdvance not visualboyadvance03:41
coreymon77i didnt know that03:42
faked_but shouldn't it not be express?03:42
coreymon77and this is suse anyways03:42
intelikeywhen you login you have a home dir.  copy the files from /etc/skel and own your home.  you are like new.03:42
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coreymon77it gave me an excuse for my parents to switch back to kubuntu03:43
nukuintelikey: well depends on what data you got in your home dir..03:43
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nukuintelikey: and how long your last backup is ago :)03:43
nukufaked_: just try if the games you want to run are working .. "express" sounds like a name for a frontend/gui ..03:44
trappistit is, according to apt-cache show vbaexpress03:45
faked_yeah I got it all workin, thanks for all your help03:45
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VooXohi all03:45
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VooXoi need a little bit help on booting kubuntu..03:46
faked_okay, next, if I run VBA fullscreen, how do I tab out of it without having to close it >_>03:46
trappistVooXo: you might try a more specific question03:46
BonBonTheJonVooXo: whats the problem03:46
Dr_willisfaked_,  :)03:46
Dr_willisfaked_,  alt-tab ?03:46
faked_I did that but it didn't do anything >_>03:46
coreymon77esc usually works03:46
intelikeychilds play.   three commands to fix it.   could be in one string.      example**  sudo rm -fr ~ ;sudo mkdir /home/`whoami` ;sudo cp /etc/skel/.?? /home/`whoami` ;sudo chown `whoami`:`groups | cut -d' ' -f1` /home/`whoami`   ***end example  full reset to clean install settings.   (assumes default linux)03:46
coreymon77takes it outa full screen03:47
Dr_willisfaked_,  ive noticed with some games - they dont seem to let me get out - unless im usiong some other window manager then kde.03:47
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intelikeyand this child is finsih playing now.03:47
Dr_willisi tend to just play with xmame :)03:47
coreymon77or alt+enter03:47
faked_oh well, I just won't run fullscreen then03:47
coreymon77i think that works03:47
VooXoi have recently ordered 5 cd's from shipit.kubuntu.org (v6.06 lts), but i have problems with booting kubuntu in live mode03:47
Dr_willisya got the cd's just in time for 6.10 to get released. :)03:48
BonBonTheJonVooXo: what do the cds do when they stop working03:48
intelikeyBonBonTheJon around here they usually find the dust bin03:48
coreymon77when is edgy stable coming out?03:48
VooXowell, i have an older pc (celeron 366mhz) and serial mouse... well, when it loads kde, mouse (cursor) doesnt work..03:48
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule03:49
BonBonTheJonintelikey: lol03:49
VooXoi don't know how to make it load drivers for com1 port, and not for ps/203:49
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BonBonTheJonVooXo: might want to try xubuntu on the old of a machine03:49
trappistwhat's com1?  a serial port?03:49
thoreauputicVooXo: you have a serial mouse?03:49
intelikeyVooXo you do a    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:50
BonBonTheJonVooXo: no usb or ps203:50
VooXono, serial03:50
coreymon77yay, its coming soon03:50
thoreauputicVooXo: if this is as old as it sounds, xubuntu seems a better idea03:50
intelikeyVooXo i use ttyS0 mouse here just reconfig x03:50
VooXoshould i reconfigure it by doing: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?03:51
intelikeythoreauputic na  kubuntu runs fine on a 366mhz box03:51
intelikeyVooXo that's what i said.03:51
VooXoi'll try that...03:51
VooXo1 more question, concerning resolution:03:51
VooXoit displays 1024*768 resolution by default, but i want it to display 800*600 - how do i do that?03:52
intelikeyVooXo that question is in the reconfig too03:52
VooXobut, when my mouse stops wotking, i dunno how to acces terminal?03:53
VooXowhat shortcuts should i use?03:53
VooXo*to access it03:53
VooXosound good... :)03:54
intelikeyx runs in tty7 by default03:54
intelikeyusing alt+f7 to get there from the tty1 console03:54
VooXointelikey, hm.. i don't think i get this...03:55
VooXo" using alt+f7 to get there from the tty1 console"03:56
intelikeyVooXo there are by default 6 login consoles tty1 - tty6   you can access any of them with the keys  ctrl+alt+f#     where # is the tty number you want.   tty7 is where X lives.03:57
VooXoget it..03:57
VooXoand, what about refresh rate? do i also set that with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?03:57
intelikeythat way you always have a place to work on the system if needed.03:58
intelikeyand yes.03:58
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VooXothanks a lot... i'm gonna check does this stuff work...03:58
VooXobe right back..03:58
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VooXoif not, good night everyone03:58
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maryenhi guys03:59
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coreymon77i know this is very off topic04:05
intelikeywhen you use here strings where does it write the temp files ?04:05
coreymon77but sonic, does your name have anything to do with the sonic the hedgehog games?04:05
joheyIn ktorrent settings, I have a field that is called (in swedish) "uppladdningsnischer" (I don't know what it's called untranslated, but maybe something like "uploading nisches"). What is that?04:05
Dr_willisnisches ?04:06
Dr_willisslots ?04:06
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intelikeyfor read Q <<"A" ;do...;done A<<<`something`      where does it write the temp file ?04:10
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Ahmuck! mp304:11
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:11
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waspiushi can anyone tell me a good messenger to use which supports webcam because kopete seems to have a bug04:13
Tm_Twaspius: use 0.12 version04:13
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dakoIs there a way around the flash plugin install?04:14
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waspiusTm_T: does it work?have u tried it?04:14
Tm_Twaspius: it works.04:14
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waspiusTm_T: do i have to get it from a site?it is not in the repos i think04:14
Tm_Twaspius: should be in some repos04:14
waspiusTm_T: with apt-get update and upgrade i have not found anything04:15
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Tm_Twaspius: kubuntu.org helps04:17
Tm_THobbsee: moin04:17
waspiusTm_T: ok thanx04:17
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joheyDr_willis: I don't really know actually... Though, when selecting a torrent that is either uploading or downloading, then clicking on the tab showing who is up/downloading, the last column is "uppladdningsnisch" and some of the fields have a green checkmark.04:18
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Dr_williswell you allocate so many spaces for uploaders to use on your machine.. slower connection = use less spaces04:20
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joheyDr_willis: Ah. Like slots?04:20
Dr_willisniche = a small area to put somthing in. :)04:21
Dr_willisInsert Tab A into Slot B. :)04:21
joheyI'd like to have a word with the translator... ;)04:21
Dr_willis'the statue was in a small niche in the wall of the church.'04:21
Dr_willisslot would be a more generic term04:22
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joheyHmm, oki.04:22
Dr_williscall them  "BinaryReservationDevices"04:22
otaku-sanHawkwind: where are you putting the icon sets on your site so that later I can find them?04:23
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joheyDr_willis: Can you explain the DHT column in the same tab as well? All fields are marked with a red X.04:23
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dennisterg'evening folks04:24
dennisterhow do u delete a huge number of nested directories?04:25
trappistdennister: rm -rf topleveldir04:26
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dennisterthanks! and I've got a very stubborn hidden directory...how to make it deletable? it's called 040910 Retail 01.9....04:27
Dr_willisjohey,  go to the DHT setting in the settings area. .and pause the arror over it.. it will popup a tool tim04:27
trappistdennister: I hate when that happens.  you can't delete the parent dir with rm -rf?04:27
Dr_willistip.. normally private trackers advise leaveing DHT Off.04:27
dennisterlord no...it's very stubborn in terms of allowing me to even get into it04:28
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joheyDr_willis: Oh ok.04:28
dennistersomeone helped me a couple of days ago, but i didn't think i'd have to do it again04:28
trappistdennister: what's its full name?  usually that's caused by a very whacky character in the filename04:28
dennister040910 Retail
trappistthat doesn't look so bad.  what happens if you rm -rf 040819<tab>04:29
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trappistwhere <tab> means use the tab key to complete the filename04:30
dennisterok! it spreads out04:30
trappisthint: learn to love bash tab completion04:30
dennisteryeah...i'm gonna have to, lol04:31
BonBonTheJonamen to that04:31
dennisterhey, i loved dos commandline04:31
dennisterBonBonTheJon: ha!04:32
dennisteri did it :-) tab completion04:33
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trappistdennister: man, and I thought it was gonna be some non-utf8 character in the filename that couldn't be entered on the shell04:34
trappistthose are fun.04:34
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dennisterwell, I still have to get into that hidden directory in order to delete the stuff inside04:37
trappistdennister: cd 040819<tab>04:38
trappisterr, that's not the hidden directory04:38
trappistyou've lost me04:38
dennister040910...now i'm trying to do the tab completion and i'm simply getting beeps04:39
dennisterph i know04:40
trappistyou usually get that when there's nothing in the current directory starting with what you've typed so far04:40
dennisteryeah...and stuff i thought were empty (having laboriously done it b4 i cam in here) aren't empty04:42
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dennisterhi ErikTheRed!04:44
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dennisterthx for helping me the other night04:44
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coreymon77can you get vmware through apt?04:45
ErikTheRedsure! everything worked fine then?04:45
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare04:45
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dennister99.99% of the pps in here are so great about helping04:45
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coreymon77i meant the vmware that you can run virtual oses from04:46
dennisterErikTheRed: i'm still struggling with the ivtvdrivers, but i think i know why now04:46
trappistcoreymon77: that's the one04:46
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coreymon77what about vmware workstation04:46
trappistcoreymon77: vmware player was made free by vmware - you can run oses in it, but you can't make new virtual machines.  for that, you need the full-on vmware, which isn't free and isn't in the repos.04:46
dennisterapparently we shouldn't use the msp3400 file that comes with ivtv, but definitely should use the saa712704:47
coreymon77what do you mean?04:47
coreymon77so i cant run windows from the free one?04:47
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trappistcoreymon77: you can if you already have a vmware virtual machine with windows on it.04:48
dennisteri begged a guy that i think works for ivtvdriver.org for some help, and he explained some stuff that made sense to me04:48
dennistermsp3400 apparently comes with most distros...so that's why it behaves differently than the other ones that are part of the ivtvdriver package04:48
trappistdennister: getting my ivtv card to work in linux is probably the hardest thing I've done to date in linux.  that was back when the 2.5 kernels were new, and the drivers for 2.5 were totally unsupported, but even making the firmware work was a pain.04:49
dennisteri've been struggling now for the 3rd day...now i'm deleting so I can start out with a cleaner box04:49
dennisterand hopefully i won't get so confused...i even successfully used qtparted and partimage for the 1st time04:50
AbortDhow do i setup 2 monitors in kubuntu?04:51
coreymon77how do i make a virtual machine with windows on it?04:51
coreymon77i have the windoze cd that came with my computer04:52
coreymon77how do i make a vm of it?04:52
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linuxkid2what groups should I add a new user to?04:55
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dennistergoddangit! there are tons of these hidden files in hidden directories within hidden directories...04:58
dennisterget into a hidden directory, and i can't list anything, let alone rm them05:00
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ghostshadow189hi all , i'm testing  "gnome-terminal --window --execute perl test.pl"  , after that it opened a terminal window , but this window disappeared . so how can i make it still appear to see the result of test.pl script ?05:01
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linuxkid2dennister: ls -a05:01
dennisterall i get is 3 dots for about 25 hidden files05:02
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=== linuxkid2 is confused
AAAI have an amarok question, anyone already have my answer?05:02
dennisterand that's just in this one directory...there'll be tons more like this, i know05:03
dennisteri did the ls -a like u suggested linuxkid205:03
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linuxkid2dennister: if it's to much then pipe it to less05:03
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BonBonTheJondennister: try rm -rfv *05:04
BonBonTheJonAAA: what is your problem05:04
AAAcan anyone tell me why the default pls player for kubuntu is amarok but it produces no sound nor errors? xmms plays the same stream fine05:04
ghostshadow189hi all , i'm testing  "gnome-terminal --window --execute perl test.pl"  , after that it opened a terminal window , but this window disappeared . so how can i make it still appear to see the result of test.pl script ?05:04
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AAABonBonTheJon  that is my problem05:05
plutoI'm trying to change my desktop from GNOME to KDE.  I did "sudo apt get install...", but when I restarted it loads the GNOME desktop.  How do I load the KDE desktop?05:05
dennisterpipe it to less? have no idea what that means...tried the rm -rfv * and got nowhere05:05
plutoI'm trying to change my desktop from GNOME to KDE.  I did "sudo apt get install...", but when I restarted it loads the GNOME desktop.  How do I load the KDE desktop?05:05
ghostshadow189pluto : choose session when u boot05:05
plutoghostshadow189: I'm not given an option to choose when booting.  How do I turn on this option?05:06
AAAthis is amarok on a thinkpad A30p.  does amarok work out of the box for you guys?05:06
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BonBonTheJonAAA: in Amarok, go to Settings, then Engine; and tell me what it says05:06
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BonBonTheJonguess ghostshadow189 didnt want help05:07
linuxkid2AAA: by design it won't play MP3's05:07
linuxkid2!mp3 > AAA05:07
AAAlinuxkid2  no sound from wmv avi swf mpg mov etc...05:07
BonBonTheJonlinuxkid2: he said xmms played it05:07
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AAAer n00b05:07
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linuxkid2That's because amaroK uses xine and you have to install libxine-extracodecs05:08
linuxkid2for non-free file formats05:08
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AAAI noticed that before my HDD crashed the other day and installed xine and still it didn't work proper.05:08
AAAI am using the live-cd ATM.  why would the default player be amarock but not ahve the libxine-extracodecs pkg installed?05:09
linuxkid2Cause Canonical would get sued.05:09
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plutoPlease help: How do I get KDE to load on boot and not GNOME?05:09
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BonBonTheJonpluto: when you reach the login screen there should be a menu to select if you want KDE or GNOME05:09
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mahmoudcan i get xgl & compiz to work on my kubuntu ?05:10
AAAubuntu@ubuntu:~$ apt-cache show libxine-extracodecs05:10
AAAthat is from the live-cd (without changing sources.list)05:10
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems05:10
linuxkid2it's in either restricted or multiverse, so you would have to modify the sources05:10
AAAthen the default player should be something that works out of the box! imho05:11
BonBonTheJonmahmoud: there you go05:11
linuxkid2They want you to use Ogg05:11
AAAlike FC1 shipping with mp3 support, that was ghey05:11
linuxkid2cause MP3 isn't free.05:11
AAAI know that05:11
linuxkid2they CAN"T. if you want a distro that does that, use a commercial one like SuSE05:11
AAAbut the mp3 libraries are installed!~05:11
mahmoudok i will see05:11
linuxkid2um, they are?05:12
AAAubuntu@ubuntu:~$ dpkg -l|grep mp305:12
AAAii  kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins            3.5.2-0ubuntu3                          au/avi/m3u/mp3/ogg/wav plugins for kfile05:12
AAAii  libgmp3c205:12
dennisteraha! rm -rf topleveldir <dir name> did it!05:12
AAA -r recursive -f force =p05:12
linuxkid2AAA: I'm sorry, but it's an amaroK and Kaffeine thing. XMMS will do it though. :-)05:13
AAAand there is no libxine-extracodecs deb05:13
AAAthat is my point!05:13
linuxkid2I downloaded it only like an hour ago. You may need to enable multiverse.05:13
AAAseems silly to have that be the default.  just like I think the RH mp3-codecs thing was/is silly05:14
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AAAthat is why there is a non-free repo in debian proper05:14
linuxkid2AAA take it up with your lawyer.05:14
AAAthe reason why I want to use it is for the built-in radio.pls and none of them work with the default install05:15
AAAI was trying to play what it offered me05:15
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AAAand from the standpoint of a new Linux user they'd be like "WTF why doesn't this thing work?"05:15
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dennisterok.../usr/src is now clean and empty :-)05:16
linuxkid2Maybe, but it is documented in the help site, and has links on the download page. It's obviouse.05:16
linuxkid2AAA: just buck up and install libxine-extracodecs from one of the disabled repos or use XMMS.05:17
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AAAhehe, no big deal.  I just wanted to pitch in my $.02  My lappy HDD died and I am just using the live-cd until tomorrow.  I very well know...TIMTOWTDI05:18
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intelikeyroot ?05:20
dennisterhey, i had to irc as ubuntu once...i couldn't bootup and was in livecd mode05:20
BonBonTheJonAAA: there is no one named root05:20
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AAAscroll up05:21
intelikeyBonBonTheJon there was.05:21
intelikey-:- root [n=root@]  has joined #kubuntu  &&  -:- SignOff root: #kubuntu (Remote closed the connection)05:21
BonBonTheJonAAA: not any more, lol05:22
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flaccida sysadmin05:22
intelikey</whistels inocently>05:22
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zakamehi all05:22
AAAhehe, or the box in a dosnet...05:23
AAAs/the box/the new box/05:23
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intelikeyaaa that's the network i usually connect to   the DoS net  :)05:24
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shriphanihow do i install rox in kubuntu ?05:25
AAAsudo apt-get install rox ?05:25
shriphanithe rox desktop that is05:25
shriphanii will get the entire desktop ?05:25
AAAapt-cache search rox first05:26
AAAsee what is available, you _may_ have to enable multiverse05:26
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shriphanii have enabled it05:26
AAAyeah, enable univers and sudo apt-get install rox-filer05:27
shriphanithen i can use it by selecting session at splash screen cant i ?05:28
AAAonly played with rox once05:28
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AAAI just know how to install stuff =p05:29
AAAlooks like you have to add multiverse to the sources.list in order to get extracodecs...05:29
ncallerwith Gnome-terminal (maybe I'm thinking of just X-term) you can do Ctrl+Shift+(+/-) to enlarge the terminal window but it also enlarges the font keeping the perception in sync as well.  I would love to achieve the same effect with some kind of hotkey combo in konsole.  Anyone know of a way to do this?05:30
AAAhrm.  installed libxine-extracodecs and restarted amarok and still no sound05:31
intelikeythere doesn't seem to be any "rox" package  what's the correct name ?05:31
ncallerrox the file manager?05:31
intelikey<shriphani> the rox desktop that is05:32
intelikeyrox-filer is the name of the file manager05:32
bioticproHow can I enter interactive boot setup in Ubuntu?  (tried hitting "I" , didn't work)05:32
shriphaniok downloaded rox-filer now to try it05:32
intelikeybioticpro is there an option for that ?05:33
bioticprointelikey: in Linux there is, but I have not found that in ubuntu boot yet05:33
bioticpromaybe there is a way to turn that on at the bootloader screen?05:33
intelikeybioticpro hehhe i keep forgetting that *buntu isn't linux  sorry.05:33
bioticprointelikey: yesh, ubuntu is linux, -tweaked05:34
bioticprosome good tweaks, some bad05:34
intelikeybioticpro no.  it's in option in one of the init scripts of some linux distros.05:34
intelikeyand linux is the kernel.05:35
intelikeyall 77m of it.05:35
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bioticprointelikey: so do you know of a way to enter interactive setup in ubuntu?  my computer stops partway through bootup, and no way to fix without reinstalling05:36
intelikeybioticpro but aside from all that. what is the desired end result ?05:36
bioticprounless I can skip the part in bootup that is stopping the boot05:36
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bioticprothe desired result is to skip loading certain drivers that are messed up05:36
shriphanithis is me from flux :)05:36
bioticproright now I can't even get to a command prompt05:37
shriphaniand flux i have begun liking05:37
intelikeybioticpro boot with   init=/bin/bash    and remount the root fs rw then tweek the startup process and remount ro reboot05:38
AAAhrm. amarok still won't play anything, but xine will... this is just too much.  now I am on a mission to make it work.  i won't use it once i make it work, it's the principle of the matter...05:38
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intelikeyor use a live cd    prolly easier and safer05:38
AAAbioticpro  <ctrl> <alt> F105:38
faked_Heeey guys, I can't get audio to play on youtube, but video plays just fine. Anyone know what the problem might be?05:38
flaccidAAA: so whats the error05:38
AAAbioticpro  that will give you a term05:38
AAAflaccid  no error, it plays and all just no sound05:38
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AAAflaccid  work with xine or xmms or I am sure mplayer if I install it05:39
flaccidAAA: run it from konsole and see if you get error output05:39
intelikeybioticpro do you know what it is that's hanging the box ?05:39
bioticprointelikey: yes, finding/loading firmware for a video card05:39
intelikeybioticpro so it's ati drivers ?05:40
intelikeyor no ?05:40
bioticprointelikey: no, hauppage05:41
bioticprothey became corrupted when I was having powersupply issues05:41
bioticproat least that is my theory05:41
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faked_Heeey guys, I can't get audio to play on youtube, but video plays just fine. Anyone know what the problem might be?05:42
intelikeyah   eather way you should be able to remove the symlink from from /etc/rc3.d/   that starts your dm  and  then boot with     3   appended to the boot line to get a console login and a way to work on it.05:42
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AAAflaccid  hrm.  I ran it from the cli after I killed the gui and it just returned a prompt to me.  Then I looked at the ps05:43
AAAubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ps aux|grep amarok05:43
AAAubuntu    6735  1.5  3.4 129516 35536 ?        Sl   01:28   2:02 /usr/lib/amarok/amarokapp05:43
AAAubuntu    6739  0.0  0.7  26384  8132 ?        S    01:29   0:00 kio_file [kdeinit]  file /tmp/ksocket-ubuntu/klauncherKO6UBb.slave-socket /tmp/ksocket-ubuntu/amarokU21mca.slave-socket05:43
flaccidAAA: if you don't have anything important amarok config wise. remove ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok and  ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc  and try starting it again05:43
AAAubuntu    8208  0.0  0.9  51968  9416 ?        S    03:30   0:00 kio_http [kdeinit]  http /tmp/ksocket-ubuntu/klauncherKO6UBb.slave-socket /tmp/ksocket-ubuntu/amarokcvWhfa.slave-socket05:43
AAAI found those and killed them and ran amarok <url> and it is working05:43
flaccidso you prolly had a pid conflict or something05:43
flaccidall good AAA?05:44
AAAdunno ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ps aux|grep amarok05:44
AAAubuntu    6735  1.5  3.4 129516 35536 ?        Sl   01:28   2:02 /usr/lib/amarok/amarokapp05:44
AAAubuntu    6739  0.0  0.7  26384  8132 ?        S    01:29   0:00 kio_file [kdeinit]  file /tmp/ksocket-ubuntu/klauncherKO6UBb.slave-socket /tmp/ksocket-ubuntu/amarokU21mca.slave-socket05:44
AAAubuntu    8208  0.0  0.9  51968  9416 ?        S    03:30   0:00 kio_http [kdeinit]  http /tmp/ksocket-ubuntu/klauncherKO6UBb.slave-socket /tmp/ksocket-ubuntu/amarokcvWhfa.slave-socket05:44
flaccid!paste > AAA05:44
bioticprointelikey: I don't really need the hauppage, its a TV card, not my primamry video, so I can boot without it05:44
flacciddon't paste05:44
AAAoops sorry, I didn't mean to do that05:44
shriphaninow i need lightweight appps for fluxbox05:45
flaccidAAA: so do you have any problems? or is it all done?05:45
AAAI am just getting used to this thinkpad, there is a middle button right by my space bar05:45
shriphaninot the k things05:45
faked_Heeey guys, I can't get audio to play on youtube, but video plays just fine. Anyone know what the problem might be?05:45
n8k99flaccid: are you guys working out a prob with amarok?05:45
flaccidn8k99: was05:45
shriphanifaked_: youtube uses flash ?05:45
faked_yeah i know05:45
AAAflaccid  well, it still leaves lots of zombies after I kill the gui app.  but that is an amarok deal not a kubuntu deal. except that kubuntu ships with broken software05:46
n8k99flaccid: does it have to do with the sound system dropping out after a few minutes05:46
Hawkwind!youtube sound05:46
ubotuIf you aren't getting sound while watching videos on youtube then please read this URL: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=108799405:46
shriphanii remember having heard of flash issues in ubuntu05:46
bioticprointelikey: so how do I exactly edit the line in the bootloader so I am able to skip loading that tvcard firmware?05:46
Hawkwindfaked_: ^^^^^^^^^^^^05:46
flaccidn8k99: no05:46
shriphaniHawkwind: gimme a few lightweight apps for irc05:46
flaccidAAA: what is a zombie. why do you think its broken?05:46
n8k99flaccid: oh ok so I have a different prob then05:46
faked_There are, but why wouldn't the sound work if the video works?05:46
flaccidfaked_: could be a lock on the soundcard by another app05:47
faked_Yeah but audio for other stuff works05:47
intelikeybioticpro not sure that you can,  but try just appending    single05:47
Hawkwindshriphani: Huh ?05:47
shriphaniany lightweight app for irc05:47
intelikeythat should get you a root console from which you can work on the system.05:47
flaccidfaked_: some programs require full lock on the card05:47
shriphaninot konservation05:47
shriphanior is it konversation05:48
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Hawkwindshriphani: GUI - Xchat, CLI - irssi05:48
shriphanixcht its gtk time then05:48
shriphaniis qt really hated so much ?05:48
intelikeyHawkwind now do me one.   take over bioticpro's  issue for me.  i need to run.05:48
ErikTheRedhopefully this is a simple question. How can i change the password for a wallet?05:49
bioticprointelikey: thx :)05:49
flaccidErikTheRed: kwallet05:49
intelikeyHawkwind he's got a driver for a tv card that hangs the system.  needs help booting and removing the driver.05:50
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intelikeybioticpro see Hawkwind.    i need to go.   luck with it.05:50
ErikTheRedwell the thing is for my wallet i set the password to the wrong thing and i'm not sure how to change it05:50
ErikTheRedeven through kwallet i can't figure it out05:50
bioticproHawkwind: Hello, so my first thing is what to append to the bootloader line to allow me to get a prompt to fix things05:51
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AAAflaccid  a zombie process (man ps) a process that doesn't have a parent.  It is broken because you can not click on a radio.pls and have it work, you have to kill off all the Z processes before it will work.  plus to use the radio (mp3 streams) that it comes with by default, you not only have to uncomment two lines in your /etc/apt/souces.list but you have to append multiverse to the end of both and then upgrade and install the extra crap.  that is what I me05:51
flaccidbut you don't have any zombie processes05:52
flaccidand mp3 is not free, thats why you have to install the extra codecs05:53
flaccidi don't see any issue here at all..05:53
AAAyou are so missing my point05:53
flaccidwhat is your point?05:53
AAAamarok is the default player for shoutcast playlist.  it comes with streams installed by default that it can not by default play05:53
AAATHAT is my poinht05:53
flaccidwas it an mp3 stream?05:54
AAAit is what was installed in the default playlist on the live cd05:54
AAAI understand what you are saying. I know the fraunhauser whoever corp owns the mp3 codec. that is not my point at all05:54
flaccidoh i guess i don't have that05:54
AAAthe kubuntu install cd is the kubuntu live cd05:55
AAAam I in the right #channel?05:55
ErikTheRedhmm for some reason kwalletmanager won't work05:55
flaccidAAA: paste me the contents of this playlist in question?05:55
AAAflaccid  you are obviously not a developer of kubuntu05:55
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flaccidAAA: why did you assume i was???05:55
AAAare there any contributers around that understand what I am trying to convey?05:56
AAAI sure never did05:56
flaccidi understand what you are conveying05:56
flaccidbut you don't know why it didn't play05:56
flaccidyou cannot make this conclusion!05:56
flaccidso i'm trying to find out if this default playlist links to an mp3 or not05:57
AAAif you are using kubuntu and didn't remove amarok, you have the same pls I do05:57
AAAopen it and look05:57
flaccidlocation of it?05:57
n8k99AAA: was this a demux error or did the stream just not play at all05:57
AAAamarok, the default audio player05:57
flaccidi don't have a default.pls05:57
AAAn8k99  no errors, the eq works, just no sound05:57
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n8k99AAA:some of the streams that are included within that playlist of channels are mp3 streams05:58
flaccidwhat does the default.pls link to ? a local file or an internet stream?05:58
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SquatchHow would I go about sharing some files so that Windows users can see/change them?05:58
n8k99AAA:what was the specific channel?05:58
Squatch(Over my network...)05:58
flaccidAAA: is it ok if you paste the contents of default.pls to me in pm. open it in a text editor and copy the text?05:59
AAAI tried most of the ones in the default05:59
bimberiubotu tell squatch about samba05:59
AAAjeez, quit amarok and start again, CRASH which launches kmail....06:01
flaccidAAA: you ignoring me now?06:01
bioticproHawkwind: are you still here?06:02
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kane_Hi i have a package that i wish to remove but apt-get wishes to remove all of XORG and ubuntu-desktop to do so.   It is not a package that should have this requirement.  Its just the nvidia-beta drivers.06:06
kane_is there a force remove?06:06
Admiral_Chicagokane_: -f remove06:07
AAAbe careful. don't think you know more about the pkg mgmt system than dselect06:08
kane_well, dselct wants to remove all of xorg to get rid of  linux-restricted-modules06:08
AAAyou can sometimes 'pin' and application so it is never upgraded or removed06:08
AAAkane_  be very careful06:09
kane_AAA: thanks, im not trying to blow it up06:09
AAAsounds like you just want to remove the linux-restricted-nvidia-whatever?06:09
kane_pretty much06:10
kane_but i installed a customer one06:10
AAAis that the apt-get remove line you give it?06:10
kane_that apperntly isnt made correctly06:10
kane_sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` linux-restricted-modules-common nvidia-glx nvidia-settings nvidia-kernel-common06:10
Admiral_Chicagoi think it's just sayning it will remove it, but i don't think that will really happen06:10
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AAAkane_  kane_ ah, just remove the 1st linux-06:10
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AAAthat is why it wants to remove xorg06:11
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kane_because -f is Attempt to continue if the integrity check fails06:11
kane_yeah, ive tried it alot of ways, thats command is from the ubuntu wiki06:11
kane_that does the same06:12
AAAtry it without the linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`06:12
Evilhi could someone tell me if kubuntu will work on my powerbook g4 with out being able to boot osx?06:12
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n8k99Evil: I have kubuntu solo on a TiPowerBook06:12
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Evilcould i burn kubuntu on a windows machine and have it boot on my mac?06:13
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n8k99Evil: yes, you just have to be certain that you are burning a PowerPC iso06:13
flaccidsure Evil06:13
kane_heh, it would like to kill   linux-386*06:13
Evilim currently downloading kubuntu 6.06.1 desktop-powerpc.iso is this the right one?06:14
flaccidyeah that looks right06:14
Evilcool thanks ill give it a shot:)06:14
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Evilwhats a good program to use to burn this iso? would nero work?06:16
flaccidshould do06:17
flaccidits just the arch thats different not the image06:17
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bronaughok, does anyone know why a netboot install of kubuntu would install ubuntu?06:19
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dennisterhi again pps06:20
dennisteranyone need some help with multimedia?06:20
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dennister<-------a noob who's gotten lots of help, can help with some things06:21
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flaccid<---- a bigger noob06:21
dennisterheheheh...i doubt it06:21
dennisteri just got frostwire up and running...i'm being searched ;D06:22
dennisterbut i guess no one wants what I'm willing to share at this point06:23
flaccidwhat ya got06:23
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dennister3 albums i recently ripped: Sarah Brihtman, Leonard Cohen, and Joshua Tree06:24
dennister<--------likes opera, but doesn't have a lot yet06:24
flaccidwhat does that have to do with help?06:24
flaccidopera has heaps..06:24
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dennistersorry....i haven't seen anyone requesting tech/kubuntu help yet since i came back online06:25
n8k99dennister:my amarok keeps crashing alsa06:26
dennisterfrostwire seems easy, so that's good, but i don't think it supports drag and drop06:26
dennisterah..ok n8k99; ur using the alsa engine?06:26
dennisteror xine?06:27
flaccidthere is an alsa engine??06:27
n8k99um, xine sorry06:27
dennisterbut it's crashing alsa?06:27
flaccidalsa is a sound system, not an engine :)06:28
n8k99sorry- amarok is crashing system sound06:28
dennisterflaccid: ur right...have u ever got it working yet n8k99?06:28
n8k99yes and as long as i do not open anything else or change desktops it works06:29
flaccidn8k99: #amarok might be of more help06:29
dennistern8k99: oh dear: I've found that using the settings in kscd actually supports amarok well06:29
n8k99hmm... ok06:29
dennisterif u can get kscd going, ur on the way to amarok working well06:30
flaccidamarok works well out of the box..06:30
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flaccidwhat is kscd and how does it help amarok?06:31
dennisterit's in kscd's settings, go to 'extras' configure settings, and in the cdrom device, choose direct digtal playback06:31
trappistit's for playing audio cds06:31
flaccidand that fixes amarok how dennister?06:31
dennisteri know, but i had a devil of a time getting my sound going06:31
dennisteru have to fiddle with the digital playback to get the sound server working optimally06:32
flaccidwell kscd aint going to help06:32
flaccidno you don't ...06:32
flaccidfor you maybe06:32
dennisterkscd will help if ur having trouble with amarok...it's supposed to work out of the box, but doesn't always06:32
flaccidn8k99: is kde sound system enabled?06:32
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flacciddennister: how does it help?06:33
n8k99flaccid: yes sound system is enabled -06:33
dennisterby choosing the correct audio backend06:33
n8k99i enable it and then start amarok06:33
n8k99amarok plays - then I think its gonna act nicely and let me do some work too06:34
dennistermy system still wants to use my usb mike as the default sound driver :-(06:34
flacciddennister: that does not do anything for amarok06:34
n8k99dennister:am i supposed to deselect digital playback for kscd?06:35
dennisterit supports the sound system backend06:35
flaccidyou don't even know what sound system he is using...06:35
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flaccidgosh this shits me06:35
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n8k99right, then kscd does not have anything to do with my amarok settings06:35
dennisterbut you may have to find the right dsp module to use 2 fields down06:35
dennisterok...ignore me06:36
faked_is there any software for linux that converts mp3s to .wavs?06:36
dennisteryes...find out about lame06:36
dennisterlame is a codec that you can use to rip cd's, but it also works to convert files from one format to another06:37
dennisterdownload it, as well as the ogg vorbis06:37
faked_why the ogg vorbis?06:37
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dennisterthey could be encoders actually...not sure...if u rip cd's with KAudioCreator, you'll need at least one decoder06:38
dennisterboth lame and ogg vorbis are 2 of the 3 choices...lame is for mp3's06:39
faked_I don't need to rip CD's, just convert mp3s >_>06:39
dennisterk...but if you do a search in synaptic or adept, you'll probably find lame associated with file converters06:39
dennisterlike what ur after06:40
faked_...just converting mp3s to wavs so I can put 'em on a CD >_>06:40
faked_Pretty simple really. Windows has a program called dBPoweramp, but I'm on linux here >_>06:40
dennisterso u need a converter06:40
faked_Yeah, that's what I said06:40
faked_Honestly, I need my ipod fixed, but I need music for TOMORROW, so I'm goin' CD-style06:41
dennisteryes, my son uses winamp, probably much like dbpoweramp06:41
faked_Yeah winamp can do it but it's a lot more confusing, dbpoweramp's just pick a song and hit convert06:41
faked_but...I'm on linux here >_>06:41
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dennisteri know what u mean, i'm still a noob and my windows is shot06:42
faked_Well I have a windows...but the music I want is on here and I'm too lazy to switch it over06:42
dennistermy disk1 has a physical crack in it and i'm waiting for media replacement06:42
faked_I see06:42
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dennisteri don't switch over, i just access the windows files on my other partitions from linux06:43
faked_I'd just use my iPod but for some reason, it won't read the music on it. Like, I can load it as a disk, and all my music is on the ipod controls, but the ipod itsself doesn't read the music or video folder06:43
dennisteri have no intention of duplicating music, videos, films, etc. on 2 OS's06:43
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faked_well I have linux on this comp, windows on another. Running windows on this one never worked out too well >_>06:44
dennistercheck out what you've already got for music progs, you might have something that will do the conversions06:44
faked_I've been lookin' but I haven't found much06:44
faked_amaroK looks like it might do it I just need to figure out how >_>06:45
dennisterit might...there's a wonderful howto about how to do file conversions during the ripping process06:45
dennisterhold on06:46
Evilcould someone help me install kubuntu on my powerbook in pm please? :)06:46
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faked_Evil::I'm kinda new at linux but I MIGHT know a little bit about it...06:46
n8k99evil: have you run the livecd in your powerbook yet?06:47
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Evilyes all i get is the wheel of death :(06:47
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n8k99huh? the spinning beach ball?06:47
dennisterthat tells you right away that kAdudioCreator will convert files from mp3 and to it06:47
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dennisterit works together with amarok06:48
dennisterno, it works together with konqueror06:48
Evilwell kinda osx wont boot so all i get is the gray apple and a small wheel underneath was hopeing kubuntu could get past that so i could install it06:48
dennisterand the encoders to do music file conversions06:48
n8k99Evil: ok reboot and hold down the command-option-P-R keys06:49
dennisterit's actually much easier than it seemed to me when I first tried it06:49
zeckoi sou brasileiro, alguem fala portugues?06:49
n8k99Evil:it will reboot while you are doing that, then hold down the 'c'06:49
n8k99it should boot from teh CD then06:49
faked_ooh snap I could make 'em FLAC files >_>06:50
Eviltrying it now06:50
faked_but those wouldn't work on a CD would they?06:50
dennistern8k99: I'm sorry about earlier06:50
dennisternot that i know of faked06:50
n8k99dennister:no problem06:50
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Evili did that it made the chime sound and rebooted held down the c key and im back to the wheel of death06:50
Evili hear the cd spinning but shows nothing on the screen06:51
n8k99Evil:so it's the white screen and the cpu is trying to boot OSX06:51
dennistern8k99:  i just struggled so much with my sound system, and that's how i finally got it working, using kscd to get the sound server working properly...i know they're separate things, and separate from amarok06:51
dennisterbut amarok was giving me trouble at first 2...oh well06:52
faked_dennister this looks like it'll only work with files on a CD06:52
dennisterthere are better tech support ppl in here than I06:52
faked_What I"m trying to do is make files that are on my computer .wav files so that I CAN put them on a CD06:52
dennisterfaked; keep reading the howto in the link i told u about06:52
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n8k99Evil:is your osx working at all? do you have an osx cd? i had to reinstall osx, then install kubuntuafter that06:53
dennisteryes, but it's the same process faked, just backward06:53
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dennisterif u have the encoders installed, u can access them for toehr progs, too06:53
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dennister<------should quit while she's ahead06:53
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Eviln8k99 check pm06:54
dennisterserpentine is a cd creator i have here, but i haven't used it yet06:54
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dennisterit looks very simple, but is more of a burner i think...not a converter06:55
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Brydenn33is there a way to "clear" something from configing so i can use Adept Manager again?06:56
Brydenn33i tried installing some libraries and they had dependency problems06:56
Brydenn33so i just wanna get rid of 'em06:56
n8k99evil:i have also cycled the process several times, CMD-OPT-P-R then C then C06:56
dennisterbrydden33: yes,06:56
Evilpress c after the chime and hold? or press it 2 times?06:57
Brydenn33dennister: ok, what do i need to do :)06:57
dennisteru have to go into the installers' cache and clear it from that06:57
Evili dont have my osx cd's thats why im trying to install kubuntu cause i cant repair osx with out the cd's06:57
Brydenn33dennister: how do i do that?06:57
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dennisteri had to go into dpkg's cache a couple of times, clearing progs from there let me use blocked installers06:57
dennisterare there any apps blocking further downloads from adept?06:58
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dennisterk, what was happening b4 adept stopped working?06:59
n8k99evil:i hold it down for about thirty to four seconds, if it takes  you back to WOD, then retry again06:59
Brydenn33dennister: like i said, i was trying to install some libraries i downloaded from the web06:59
Brydenn33they had dependency problems and never fully configured because of that06:59
Brydenn33no Adept Manager wont run07:00
n8k99evil:after three or four attempts do teh P-R trick again07:00
Brydenn33tells me to run apt-setup or apt-get update07:00
Brydenn33and that doesnt work07:00
dennisteri scrolled up...now adept isn't working...that's why i originally thought other badly-installed apps were blocking adept07:00
Brydenn33oh ok07:00
n8k99evil: before retrying- it's sort of like popping the clutch to start the car on a hill07:00
Brydenn33yah sorry07:00
Eviln8k99 can this be done from singleuser mode?07:01
Brydenn33dennister: so what should i do now?07:01
dennistertry going sudo remove --purge <your binaries filename's>07:01
Brydenn33uhm i already deleted the .debs i was trying to install07:01
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n8k99evil: you are still trying to get the cpu to boot from cd right?07:02
Evilnothing so far07:02
dennisterok, use kong to go into the cache's of your varioous intallers to see if those binaries are still there07:02
dennisterthey could be blocking adept07:02
bLaZeDwhat package do i need to keep my system clock synced up...i rebooted to windows now my time says its 10:02 but its actualy 1 am i think....07:03
Evili used magic iso to burn the cd made it bootable is that allright? or should i re-burn with different software?07:03
dennisterbLaZeD: i use ntp and ntp simple07:03
n8k99evil: you can reburn - make sure it is the most dependable settings07:03
dennisterthat will keep your clock synced with the internet07:03
Brydenn33dennister: sudo remove doenst even work!07:03
bLaZeDdennister, to synce it what do u hit?07:04
Brydenn33brydenn@c-67-169-218-218:~$ sudo remove --purge libfontconfig107:04
Brydenn33sudo: remove: command not found07:04
bLaZeDor rather what command do u run07:04
dennistersorry...it's apt-get remove --purge <app>07:04
n8k99also try burning a copy of breezy badger, as it has a different install prog that woks dif07:04
Evilim not to good with burning iso's is there any user friendly software i can use that will make this bootable cd?07:04
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numenususe aptitude instead of apt - it handles the dependencies much better07:04
n8k99i dont know much about M$ stuff07:04
dennisterbLaZeD:  ntp and ntp simple are daemons u download with synaptic07:05
Evilshould i burn it as apple hfs+ ?07:05
dennisterBrydenn33: numerous is right07:05
bLaZeDdennister, ahh k got ya....i had ntp installing ntp-simple now07:05
n8k99evil: no as an iso07:05
shriphaniEvil: k3b ?07:06
Evilthe one is burnt is iso 9660 and joilet07:06
dennisteri just haven't used aptitude yet07:06
Evilk3b? whats that07:06
Brydenn33what is aptitude?07:06
shriphanian app07:06
Brydenn33is it a gui installer like Adept Manager?07:06
dennisterbut i'd read about it being better for dependencies...07:06
n8k99shriphat: he hasn't been able to install kubuntu onto his pb yet07:06
shriphaniBrydenn33: its like apt-get07:06
shriphanioh n8k9907:06
dennister<----------needs to start using aptituude; note to self07:06
numenusno, its a command line package manager - like apt, just better07:06
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numenushas anyone upgraded to edgy? I'm thinking of installing it...07:09
dennister<-----needs a good graphical filesharing program07:09
bLaZeDdennister, ive installed both of those....the ntp-server seems to be running...but it hasent changed my time its still the wrong time07:09
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dennisterbLaZeD: have u tried right-clicking the clock applet?07:10
n8k99numenus: i am running edgy07:10
Evilshould this iso be burnt as iso level 2 windows/unix ? or level 1 dos ?07:10
n8k99level 207:11
Evilor iso 996007:11
bLaZeDdennister, im in fluxbox not kde...so right clicking the time doesnt do/show the same stuff i dont think07:11
n8k99oh iso 996007:11
bLaZeDdennister, maby i will try to go into kde and give it a shot in a few07:11
dennisteroh i c, i really like kde...and this is (K)ubuntu07:11
dennisterat first i thought i like gnome better, but not now07:12
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numenusdennister: I was using gnome up until last night, and thought I liked it better too07:12
numenusdennister: there are things about gnome I like, but kde just gives many more optsion for tweaking07:13
numenusn8k99_: so, how is edgy? run into many problems during the upgrade?07:13
n8k99_numenus: it's very nice - am having trouble with amarok right now07:14
dennisternumenus: exactly07:14
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n8k99_numenus: also when I poweron, have to restart the x server before I can sign into kdm07:14
keUnfortunately it's a never ending discussion :( I can't decide either07:14
n8k99_numenus: i actually did a clean install07:14
keBut then again, competition is a good thing :)07:14
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numenusn8k99_: hmm - perhaps I'd better wait... I've just got XGL/Beryl running nicely on dapper07:15
dennisterafter windows (and esp if you had trouble installing ur first distro), u think you like a clean-looking desktop...and long for simplicity07:15
n8k99_numenus: compositing as is built into kde works really nicely07:16
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dennisterbut then you need to actually start configuring and working with it...most instructions are for kde apps07:16
n8k99_numenus: http://eckenrodehouse.net/images/worldview.png07:16
n8k99_numenus: some tweaks to my desktop in edgy07:16
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dennisternumerous, do u know a good bitlord-like app?07:17
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coreymon77gnight everyone07:17
numenusdennister: no, sorry I do not07:17
coreymon77dennister, btw, azureus or ktorrent work just fine07:18
dennisteri've got frostwire working here, and it was pretty easy, but...doesn't seem to support the drag-n-drop of stuff i've found via google07:18
coreymon77goodnight everyone!07:18
dennisternight coreymon7707:18
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dennisterazureus was giving me trouble07:18
coreymon77cya all tomorrow07:18
dennisteri had it working well in windows07:18
numenusn8k99_: well, my connection is creeping - your screenshot is still loading ;D07:19
dennisterktorrent starts and stalls...doesn't actually download for more than a few seconds07:19
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n8k99numenus:sorry about that- it's a large screenshot - I should just make that a webpage instead07:21
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numenusn8k99: heh, well it looks nice anyway07:21
zamhow to install mplayer and the wine32 codecss and some other importing things pleases ?07:21
bronaughyou don't really need the win32 codecs so much now.07:22
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zambronaugh:  i do and i need mplayer also ?07:23
bronaughwell, it's part of the multiverse or universe afaik... did you choose to use those when you installed?07:23
bronaughif you did, mplayer should be in there.07:23
bronaughdunno about the win32 codecs -- but as I said, not so necessary now. fortunately there's libraries like ffmpeg that play nearly anything.07:24
zambronaugh: i remember i link inubuntu about sutch problime bu i cant remmember where ?07:24
numenusdennister: are you a recent convert from windows?07:25
n8k99numenus:great thanks07:26
bronaughzam: not sure how you add it after install on ubuntu... new to ubuntu.07:26
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bronaughin Debian I'd just abuse it into /etc/apt/sources.list07:27
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zambronaugh: it is the same i juse need the surcess for things like that07:27
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xomaWhere can i find information about setuping samba+ldap?07:28
o1ng0b01ng0anyone know how to permanantly change resolv.conf?07:28
bronaughzam: don't know offhand; not on a ubuntu machine right now.07:28
dennistergnight all07:28
unix_infidelis there any word on when python-2.5 will be available for ubuntu.07:28
o1ng0b01ng0I have to keep restting the dam thing to my nameservers07:28
CViruso1ng0b01ng0: edit this file /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf07:29
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o1ng0b01ng0I'll have to read up on that file before I go messing with it07:31
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numenuszam: go here for install steps  --- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer07:32
derekScan someone help me figure out how to get remote X to work?07:32
numenuszam: and click the restrictedformats link and it shows how to install w32codecs07:33
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Brydenn33ok i'm still having a problem07:43
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Brydenn33my libfontconfig1 is BROKEN (installed)07:44
Brydenn33and so is my libfontconfig1-dev07:44
Brydenn33how do i fix it?07:44
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numenusBrydenn33: maybe try removing and reinstalling -- "sudo aptitude remove" <package name(s)> -- then do --- "sudo aptitude install" <package name(s)> --07:48
Brydenn33ok numenus07:49
Brydenn33numenus: SWEET! it worked :)07:51
numenusBrydenn33: great :D07:52
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Brydenn33so what's so great about aptitude now? it does better with dependencies how?07:53
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ubotuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide07:54
Brydenn33hmm well why dont they make a GUI for that?07:55
Brydenn33seems like it would be pretty beneficial to the user07:55
numenuswell, I suppose it would be - but there a lot of useful tools that are command line only07:55
numenusgo figure :D07:55
Brydenn33ya i know. but i dont like having to type all the damn time haha07:55
Brydenn33i'd rather click a few options and have it do everything it needs to07:56
Brydenn33instead of spelling it out in commands07:56
numenuswell, start writing the code for an aptitude gui :D07:56
Brydenn33haha ;) right07:56
Brydenn33if i could i would07:56
aridity|Kubhmm, which directory should I install irssi to?07:56
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numenusalright... goodnight everyone08:03
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zami dont know what the hell hapning to me guyes so pleases help the video is shown but i get no sownt sound at all ?08:06
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charlie5what adept packages would i need to get konqeror to load 'flash' pages ?08:18
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petei ran into a problem with adept on the new beta:08:22
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petei was letting my machine update, but i came up with an error halfway thru the install, i tried to restart the program but apparently there is a process running in the background08:23
petethat is using adept or apt get or something08:24
peterebooting didn't help either, any ideas?08:24
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Empirichi all08:25
Empirici have implement kiosk too, in my kubuntu user08:25
Empiricits doing wired things08:25
Empirici delete all things from my K menu except internet and office and kmail08:26
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Empiricbut am seeing utilities and system seetings though08:26
Empiricany idea08:26
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petedid you right-click on the icon and select menu editor?/08:27
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petethat work for you empiric?08:29
Empiricyes but not completely08:29
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Empirici delerte all things from l menu08:30
pavelcau je tu nejakej cech nebo ceska???08:30
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zamhow to enabled the Universe and Multiverse repositories., where to find this   repositories.,?08:30
zami know how to add them just where is a liste of them ?08:31
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sF|Xemanth^zam: /etc/apt/sources.list08:32
zamsF|Xemanth^:  i dont think i have them in my sources.list file ?08:32
petei consistently get an error when trying to install the apt-index-watcher package.... :(08:36
Empiricany idea08:36
peteempiric sory man i dont quite know my way around this stuf myself yet... menu editor would have been my course of action08:38
Admiral_Chicagopete: what is the error? post the last line of output08:39
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Brydenn33hey does anyone here have DC++ installed on Kubuntu or a similar program?08:41
Admiral_ChicagoBrydenn33: what is DCC08:41
Brydenn33DC++ is a peer 2 peer program08:41
Admiral_Chicagocould try frostwire08:42
unix_infidelman is advanced subnetting just craptacular when messing with firewalls.08:42
unix_infidelespecially transparent subnets :(08:42
Brydenn33Admiral_Chicago: frostwire is NOTHING like DC++08:43
Brydenn33but thanks08:43
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Admiral_Chicagodoes anyone have an HTTP tunnel package for ubuntu?08:46
Admiral_Chicagoi want to set a package to tunnel using HTTP but I don't know how to do it08:46
partackoooh >.> kubuntu support channel =D  awesome08:47
Admiral_Chicagoyea its a good thing08:47
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partacki'm new to linux ^-^ so this is convenient =P08:47
Admiral_Chicagopartack: how new?08:47
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partackwell i've messed around with suse liike, once.. a while ago.. and i didn't like it so i had it for 1 day and then i deleted it because i couldn't get internet working08:48
partackand now i'm ready to give linux a good thorough learning.08:48
Admiral_Chicagopartack: have you checked out easyubuntu08:48
Admiral_Chicago!easyubuntu > partack08:49
Empirici found it pete08:49
Empirictheirs a bug in kisttool in kubuntu08:49
Empiricit wont have changes in k menu it wont save08:49
Empiricany other tools instead of kisktool08:49
Empiricplz guide me08:50
partacknot yet, ive been meaning to.. but the problem is i can't get my wireless card to work =( and ive had so many thigns go wrong so far that shouldn't have gone wrong..  i'm wired to my wireless router ATM to try and fix the problem =(08:50
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Admiral_Chicagopartack: try this08:50
Admiral_Chicago!wireless > partack08:50
Admiral_ChicagoEmpiric: did you search the ubuntu forums?08:50
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Admiral_Chicagothey dave a ton of support08:51
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Admiral_Chicagothey might have fixed the bug and documented it08:51
partackCheers muchly AC (your nickname ;P) i'll give this a read through ^-^08:51
peteempiric sorry man i dont know what kistool is08:51
Empiriccan u help me Admiral08:53
Empirickiosk is buggy08:53
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Admiral_ChicagoEmpiric: hold on08:54
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Empiricam waiting08:54
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Admiral_Chicagowhats the package called?08:55
Admiral_Chicagoah kistool08:55
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Admiral_ChicagoEmpiric: i have no idea08:57
Admiral_Chicagoi've never used kistool and this is the first time i've ever heard of it08:57
Empirickiosk admin tool08:57
Empiricu have it with apt-get install kiosktool08:57
partackum.. can anyone please tell me what this means?  i typed in make  and it told me Makefile:34: Makefile_cst: No such file or directory08:58
partackthere's a makefile int he directory08:58
Admiral_Chicagopartack: what package?08:58
Admiral_ChicagoEmpiric: well I looked on ubuntu forums, kubuntu forums, and launch pad and I didn't find anything on the bug08:59
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partacki'm trying to install Rutil  (Cos wireless assistant is sorta half-assed and not working, or something)09:00
partack1 sec09:00
partacksee, i'm following a how-to from the ubuntu  website09:00
partacki'll pull it up, 2 seconds09:00
partackthats the wrong one09:01
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partackthere we go09:03
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Admiral_Chicagopartack: did you install build-essentials?09:04
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partacki did indeed. i wasn't able to while i was offline so i kept getting 'couldnt find package 'build-essential'  but i have them now09:04
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partack(i've only jsut figured out packages are mostly URL's)09:05
Empiricany one works on kiosktool09:05
Admiral_Chicagopartack: packages are downloaded from a website09:06
Admiral_Chicagothat way you don't have the 1800 packages on your computer09:06
partack*nod* i know that now09:06
partackbut i'm clueless now =(  i get this whenever i try to make (using that how-to) and googlign it pulled nothing up..09:07
partackMakefile:34: Makefile_cst: No such file or directory09:07
partackmake: *** No rule to make target `Makefile_cst'.  Stop.09:07
partackall i need to do is get my wireless card working =( then i can be happy and play around with various linuxy things ^-^09:09
fdovingwhat wireless card?09:09
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partackit's (apparently formt he previosu help i've had)  a Realink based card and it uses the module RT6109:10
fdovingnot rt25xx ?09:10
partacknope. rt6109:10
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fdovingpartack: take a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13298009:11
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partackOOH!" >.>  *checks it out*  thank you so very much ^-^09:12
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fdovingpartack: are you using dapper?09:12
partackyes i am =)09:12
fdovingpartack: then browse down to "(b) rt61 in Dapper"09:12
fdovingafter "Some additional notes:"09:13
damianhow many linux users does it take to install windows and end all their frustration?09:13
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fdovingdamian: i would never join them :)09:13
partackTHAT's it! that's the Hardware thingy i got! unknown device 0302! =D  this cn help me muchly ^-^09:13
partacki'll check it out. i'll let you knwo how i get on ^-^09:14
tbagcan't get dual display to work09:14
tbagcan anyone help?09:14
fdovingpartack: scroll down to the part i told you.. it'll save you alot of work.09:14
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partackooh right i thought i was lookign at what you meant ^-^;; sorry, i got all excited cos it made sense to me.09:15
partack(b) rt61 in Dapper09:15
qorHey guys... any ideas on what could be causing this?09:15
qorfrank@worf:~$ sudo apt-get check09:15
qorReading package lists... Done09:15
qorSegmentation faulty tree... 50%09:15
fdovingqor: sounds bad.09:16
qorI know :p09:16
qorhow does one fix the package that fixes packages?09:16
fdovingtry 'sudo apt-get update' and then 'sudo apt-get check'09:16
fdovingqor: you can also try 'sudo apt-get -f install'09:17
qorapt-get -f wouldn't work09:17
qoran update/check fixed it09:17
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qorwonderful, thanks a bunch!09:18
fdovingyou're welcome :909:18
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partackumm...  why does linux hate me? =(09:21
partackmkdir: cannot create directory `/etc/Wireless/RT61ST': No such file or directory09:21
MomalAnyone know a good video screen capture program So I can record mouse movements etc.09:21
flaccidpartack: parent dir probably doesn't exist09:22
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fdovingpartack: 'sudo mkdir -p /etc/Wireless/RT61ST'09:22
partackYAY ^-^ thank you fdoving =) that did it09:22
partack*Continues how-to*09:23
partackwhat did th e-p do?09:23
partackjust curious09:23
partack i need otlearn these things ^-^09:23
fdovingmkdir -p makes every directory needed to make /etc/wireless/RT61ST, like if /etc/Wireless doesn't exist, it makes that too.09:24
partackthank you =)09:24
fdovingyou can do like 'mkdir -p /tmp/dir1/dir2/dir3' and it'll do the same as 'mkdir /tmp/dir1;mkdir /tmp/dir1/dir2/;mkdir /tmp/dir1/dir2/dir3'09:24
maryenmkdir doesn't make you money or pay the bills tho09:25
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SquatchGah!  I'm using a dual monitor setup and for some reason, on my second monitor, I have a taskbar on only one of the four desktops >_<.  Any suggestions to get it back in the other two?09:28
partackcan't you make one? right clicking the desktop?09:28
flaccidw0a i didn't even know about -p09:29
flaccidthats cool09:29
SquatchNot on mine, I can create lots of other stuff, but no taskbar...09:29
partackactually, scratch that. . guess not09:29
SquatchKDE is acting really funky too.  My right monitor is my secondary monitor, and options to affect how the taskbar looks/acts don't always work...09:30
Torchedyou guys know why linux is free?09:31
Torchedbecause no one would pay for product like that09:31
flaccidno linux is actually free because of the GNU GPL09:31
Torchedno, that's how it's free flaccid09:31
Torchedthat's not why it's free09:31
flaccidsame thing in this case09:31
partacklol torched.  is this linux joke night?  that one about the mkdir and now that?09:32
flaccidso are you speaking for the whole world, Torched?09:32
flaccidnobody being the operative word there09:32
Torchedi asked the whole world flaccid, they agree with me09:32
flaccidyou didn't ask me09:32
flaccidand its also impossible to do what you said09:32
Torchedyou were the last person to voice your opinion09:32
Torchednow my survey is complete09:32
Torchedthe overwhelming majority of people agreed with me09:33
partackflaccid: does the internet count as the world?09:33
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flaccidmeh ur full of shit Torched09:33
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peteanybody know if they upgraded legacy drivers for the new beta?09:34
partackokay, so , linux hates me..  in the how-to it says to type  cp *.bin /etc/Wireless/RT61STA/09:34
petehow can i check the date of the drivers?09:34
partackbut it tells me cp: cannot create regular file `/etc/Wireless/RT61STA/rt2561.bin': Permission denied09:34
flaccidpartack: the user are you do it under doesn't have write access. try using sudo with the command09:34
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partackohwait it was all a typo's fault. sorry about that. *nod* thank yout hough =)09:37
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petenetwork interface ra0 shows up when i do iwconfig, but when i do ifup ra0 it tells me that is an unknown interface..... anybody have any ideas at all???09:38
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raul12 how to install i386 software on x64 machine(AMD)09:45
partackpete: you're in the same boat as me, m8   go here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13298009:45
raul12 ok09:45
partacklook at (b)09:45
partack(if you're using dapper)09:46
raul12 plz help09:46
flaccidraul12: i don't know if you can, maybe you can. would require emulation. try ##linux09:48
fdovingraul12: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit09:49
Arlingtonhow to install a .rpm package?09:49
flaccidArlington: by command line or a GUI?09:49
Arlingtonwhat ever :-)09:49
raul12 /msg raul12 set unfiltered on09:50
fdovingArlington: you shouldn't install rpms in ubuntu.09:50
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).09:50
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Arlingtonwell it's the only linux versionof this program...09:51
windshearno source?09:51
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).09:51
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flaccidsorry i had to go afk09:51
Arlingtonwindshear. i don't know.09:51
flaccidi'd prolly get the files out of the rpm and install them manually09:51
fdovingArlington: get alien then. might not work but it's could be worth a try.09:51
Arlingtonthe alien is the program that makes a .deb package of the rpm file right?09:52
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Arlingtonhow do i install a .deb package? is it sudo ./filename?09:54
fdovingsudo dpkg -i file.deb09:55
fdovingor rightclick -> kubuntu menu -> install package (or something like that)09:56
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flaccidfdoving: hmm i don't have that feature09:59
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Arlingtonthe program i'am trying to install is slimdevices slimserver. when install is done it tells me to go to: http://jonas-desktop:9000/ but the browser can't find it any thoughts?10:03
flaccidArlington: did you run the program?10:03
Arlingtonyes i installed it and the installer told me the thing above...10:04
flaccidnot install10:04
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Arlingtondon't know how to run it (neewbie) yes i know because i can't find it in the staartmenu...10:05
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fdovingit's probably running in the background, and you can access it with the webbrowser at that address.10:05
fdovingArlington: try
Arlingtonyes that is the thing in windush10:05
flaccidit may not be running at all10:06
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flaccidrpm doesn't init after install does it? and he converted from rpm to deb first anyway?10:06
Arlingtonyes i converted.10:06
fdovingyou can check that with 'fuser -v 9000/tcp'10:06
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fdovingif it's running on that port, that is.10:07
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Arlingtonthe terminal just scips a line ...10:07
flaccidi don't think fuser works for normal/admin user by default coz of perms10:08
flaccidsudo fuser -v 9000/tcp10:08
Arlingtoni ran it as sudo10:08
flaccidok its not going then10:08
flaccidyou probably need to run the binary from the package10:08
fdovingor the alien process failed somehow.10:09
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Arlingtonno the alienprocess ran succesfully.10:10
partack_YES!!! YESS!! YES!! IT WORKS ! ^-^10:10
partack_it finally works ;_;10:10
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partack_thanks for all your help guys ^-^  got my wireless card going =)10:10
flaccidyou could run "file filename" against every file from the package to find the binary10:10
fdovingpartack_: glad you got it working :)10:11
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partack_^-^ cheers so much =)  .  heh. i guess i'll idle in here , eh?  i'll probably need more help some time or other =P and searching google for 3 days didn't help =P10:12
fdovingArlington: or you could run 'dpkg -L pacakgename' (without version or .deb) to list the files in the package.10:12
fdovingArlington: whatever is in /usr/bin or /usr/sbin is the binary.10:12
partack_thanks again ^-^  seeyah10:12
flaccidor /usr/local/bin or hopefully any dir with /bin10:13
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fdovingpackages should not put stuff in /usr/local/bin and /bin is for essential stuff, but yes. :)10:14
flaccidthis is from an rpm..10:14
flaccidwho knows where the location could be10:14
Arlingtonnothing there10:15
flaccidnothing at all in the package?10:15
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Arlingtonnothing in the bin directory.10:16
fabian_hey guys! I've got a problem with kubuntu 6.06 dapper... when I plug-in an usb-device, nothing happens... in the past, an icon appeared on the desktop an allowed me to mount/eject the device but now there's nothing... I didn't anything, I think...10:16
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flaccidArlington: run file on each command to find the binary10:16
Arlingtoni've found out that they distribute a .deb install thorugh a repository that they manage. thanks for the help.10:17
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flaccidfyi apt-rpm can be used for rpms too :)10:17
Arlingtonthere should be a but in front of the thanks for the help10:17
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ironfroggycan anyone tell me if that URL works for them? i cant get the flash game to work but it doesnt complain about flash versions.10:18
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Schalkendoes anyone have the valid md5sum for the kubuntu 6.06 iso?10:19
flaccidironfroggy: don't think it works for me10:19
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Schalken(6.06, not 6.06.1)10:19
flaccidironfroggy: google flash satay @ ALA and thats the best way to embed flash10:19
flaccidi might10:19
zorglu_fb3af44c21f1f68cc25fda7edb8c1bd3  ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso10:20
zorglu_oh ok10:20
Schalkenbut kubuntu not ubuntu10:20
ironfroggyflaccid: what? sorry, dont get what you mean.10:20
zorglu_Schalken: 6.06 is not more distributed by canonical, so i dunno :)10:21
fdovingSchalken: kubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso ?10:21
Schalkenfdoving: thats the one10:21
flaccidi got: 415692829ebc4d5a54e5ce6a4f15f1a6  kubuntu-6.06-dvd-i386.iso10:21
zorglu_i guess he want the cd :)10:21
Schalkenflaccid: lol do you have the cd?10:21
flaccidfdoving: there is an article called flash satay that shows how to embed flash across browsers10:22
flaccidSchalken: i have the cd image still10:22
fdovingSchalken: i don't have the official md5sum, but i can make one for you, of my iso.10:22
fdovingSchalken: ad390f978451c0cc99ec866702de6ad2  kubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso10:22
Schalkenfdoving: yes, good, thats what i got, thanks10:23
Schalkeneven though some sites host 6.06 they dont have the md5s :P10:23
fdovingi recommend 6.06.1 though.10:23
fdovingthe livecd installer is better.10:23
Schalkenfdoving: yes however i tried that and it didnt work so i am trying 6.0610:24
Schalkensee here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27349710:24
fdovingok, if it didn't work you might be better off with the alternate cd. if you haven't tried it yet.10:24
Schalkenfdoving: the puzzling thing is it used to work, even on this very CD-RW10:25
Schalkenso i will try another10:25
fdovingdoes the cd-drive work with other disks?10:25
Schalkenfdoving: yes. the ubuntu 6.06 cds i had shipped still work.10:25
Schalkenfdoving: i am just going to try this other CD-RW at the slowest burn and see if it works ;)10:26
fdovingdo that :)10:26
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Arlingtonmy adept won't start :-(10:28
fdovingtry to start it from konsole, do you get error messages?10:28
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Schalkenhey whats the default way to bring down yakuake?10:29
fdovingthat's kmenu -> system -> konsole -> 'sudo adept_manager'10:29
Arlingtonit works in console. but whne i try to start through starmenu i get to input my password and then nothing.10:29
fdovingArlington: what about 'kdesu adept_manager' from konsole?10:29
Schalkenis adept's command 'adept_manager'? why not just 'adept'? i never seen a command with a '_'10:30
Arlingtoncommand adept_manager wasn't found10:30
fdovingah, sorry, that's in edgy.10:31
Arlingtonwell that dosn't work either.10:31
fdovingSchalken: close yakuake with the X in in the lower right corner (of yakuake)10:31
ArlingtonX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16810:31
Arlington  Major opcode:  14810:31
fdovingthen it's kdesus fault.10:31
Arlington  Minor opcode:  310:31
Arlington  Resource id:  0x010:31
ArlingtonFailed to open device10:31
ArlingtonX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16810:32
fdovingthat's normal, has nothing to do with this.10:32
Arlington  Major opcode:  14810:32
Arlington  Minor opcode:  310:32
fdovingplease stop pasting.10:32
Schalkenfdoving: okay how about to bring it back up again?10:32
Arlington  Resource id:  0x010:32
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ArlingtonFailed to open device10:32
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fdovingSchalken: alt+f2 'yakuake' <enter>10:32
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Arlingtoni'am sorry for that10:33
fdovingArlington: sorry i had to remove you, please don't paste into the channel like that.10:33
fdovingno problem :)10:33
fdovingthat error has nothing to do with adept. it's basically just X saying it can't contact some devices configured in xorg.conf, wacom tablet etc. just ignore it.10:34
Schalkenfdoving: i was under the impression that yakuake is always running and shows itself when a certain shortcut key is pressed. isn't it?10:34
Arlingtonthe problem is that when trying to install the slimserver through adept. adept hanged and i had to kill it and now it dosn't start.10:34
Arlingtoncould it be related?10:35
fdovingSchalken: you can toggle view/hide with F12 (i think, is the default)..10:35
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fdovingSchalken: if you close it with the X, it dies.10:35
Schalkenfdoving: ahhhhhhhh thats what i wanted thanks10:35
fdoving!adept crash fix10:35
ubotuIf adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'10:35
fdovingArlington: try that ^^10:35
fdovingI have to go now, food -> work.'10:36
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Arlingtonany one here?10:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about baddevices - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:46
ubotubaddevice is If you are getting errors similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168  Then please read this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.010:47
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zorglu_Arlington: this will help you removing the X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 you see10:47
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Arlingtoni have this tar.gz file i wan't to install. how would i go about?10:55
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Arlingtoni have this tar.gz file i wan't to install. how would i go about?10:58
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pacmanis the current java not good enough for the rest of the internet?11:01
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pacmannobody home??11:03
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flaccidpacman: the current java is fine11:04
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pacmanmost of the stuff I try and access tells me its no good11:05
flaccidthe error message is 'its no good' ?11:06
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pacmanno, says I don't have the latest version...but I do11:06
flaccidArlington: its an archive. extract with a program like ark11:07
flaccidpacman: what version u using?11:07
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pacmanflash 7 for linux11:07
flaccidi thought you said java?11:08
flaccidif you mean flash11:08
pacmanshoot, I don't remember....11:08
pacmanno, I meant java11:08
flaccidyou can blame macromedia11:08
pacmanand flash sucks too11:08
flaccidwell java is fine11:08
flaccidwhat version you got and provide me a sample url that says you aint got the latest?11:09
pacmanall of the yahoo games11:10
pacmandunno which version I have...how do I find out11:11
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flaccidtry dpkg -l | grep -i sun-java11:11
flaccidor just java -version11:12
flaccidyou prolly have the sun-java-jre ?11:12
pacmanyeah, that's right11:12
pacmanjre5 or something like that11:13
pacmansun-java5-bin, sun-java5-jre11:14
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flaccidthat is the latest11:14
flaccidlet me try it out11:14
flaccidi'm not a member of yahoo unfortunately11:15
flaccidbut yeah 1.5 is latest11:15
pacmanI'm just trying to find some cool games for my computer11:15
pacmaneverything I've tried is lame at best11:16
flaccid1.4.8/1.4.2 is what people still develop on coz 1.5 is a lot different in arch11:16
flaccidsudo apt-get install nexuiz ppracer torcs knights11:16
flaccidthere are a few11:16
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flaccidthat i like11:16
flaccidknights its online chess11:16
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flaccidnexuiz is shoot em up. v nice11:17
flaccidppracer is planet penguin racer. clone of tuxracer11:17
flaccidtorcs is a car game11:17
pacmanI've played ppracer11:18
pacmanthink I might have played torcs too11:18
pacmanwish I could get simcity 3000 back, man I could kill hours with that11:18
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Tm_Tflaccid: ppracer is former tuxracer, not clone11:19
flaccidah ok11:19
flaccidwhy the change in name then?11:19
Tm_Tno idea11:20
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zorglu_http://tremulous.net is nice too :)11:21
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pacmanman, it's late here11:22
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:24
flaccidzorglu_: tremulous looks mad11:24
flaccidhow big is it11:25
zorglu_flaccid: what do you mean ?11:25
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zorglu_big ? several people play it :)11:25
flaccidsorry mad = sick = very good11:25
zorglu_ah ok :)11:25
zorglu_it is very fun to play11:25
zorglu_i like it a lot. a 'modern' game in opensource and running on linux, window, macosx11:25
zorglu_very good to destress11:26
flaccidbetter than nexuiz?11:27
zorglu_i never played nexuiz11:27
zorglu_but try it, it is simple to install11:27
flaccidi have it installed11:28
flaccidi play it11:28
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flaccidits good11:28
zorglu_cool :)11:28
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zorglu_flaccid: tips,  get a good fps, it helps a lot to play well. you can tune the details to reach it :)11:33
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flaccidyeah thats a gaming fundamental11:33
flaccidi'm on a notebook but its not too bad11:33
zorglu_well i player for 2 months before finding out this fundamental :)11:34
janusheadquestion about printer installation with kaddprinterwizzard: after chosing the printer, it says drivers not found or insufficient access rights. is this a know issue?11:35
janusheadusing vanilla 6.06-6411:35
zorglu_tried "kdesu kaddprinterwizzard" ?11:36
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Arlingtonanyone using slimserver?11:44
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janusheadzorglu_, i switched to sysadmin mode before.11:46
janusheadzorglu_, after the problem i had to download the ppd-file myself and point to it. then everything was fine11:46
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twosouls82hello there :)11:58
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cox377Helllo all12:20
cox377this is not directly a kubuntu question, but i'm looking for a linux alternative to windows media center / xbox media center.!! does such a thing exist?12:21
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t0taln00bof cos it's kubuntu12:23
twosouls82cox377: if you have a 'ivtv enabled' (ivtv is a driver) you can use mythtv :) much nicer than mc to be honest12:23
twosouls82s/ivtv enabled/ivtv enabled video card12:24
twosouls82and to get it all to work with dapper; http://hyams.webhop.net/mythtv/myth_ubuntu.html12:25
cox377cheers guys12:26
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twosouls82:s video? tv card :)12:27
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MistaEDhey could someone tell me where kde stores its bootup stuff? i wanted to reduce kde's ram usage12:38
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Raul12is SELinux is included in kubuntu ??12:40
n3stormanybody here is aware about the Kubuntu bug with Scribus?12:40
cox377twosouls82: just been looking @ mythtv and it looks great, so i just gotta get a ivtv enabled tv card?12:40
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Raul12is SELinux is included in kubuntu12:42
Raul12can any 1 tell12:43
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n3stormRaul12: apt-cache search selinux12:46
bpmmay anyboda help me to get a ad-hoc connection between 6.06 and my pda12:46
bpmi dont know how to start12:47
bpmiwconfig dont like me12:47
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t0taln00bwhy doesnt it like u?12:51
bpmi tried: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid test mode Ad-Hoc key off12:53
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t0taln00bbut what's ur problem?12:56
bpmi cant get a connection12:56
bpmi dont know where the problem is12:56
bpmi dont know where i have to search the problem12:56
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t0taln00bhmm.. as far as i can see from ur pasted fragment on the aforementioned link u have a connection. it's odd12:58
t0taln00bit's odd that u cant connect :?12:59
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bpmyeaaah i got it01:04
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bpmmy internal wlanchip was was not pluged well in its slot01:05
bpmso the card worked - dont worked - worked.....01:05
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niels_Hi Folks!01:26
niels_Has anyone mad funny experiences doing an upgrade from Dapper to Etchy? I did an upograde just today and since the box wont start anymore01:26
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LeeJunFan_awayniels_: that's not really funny.01:27
niels_which means that it boots the kernel and once it gets through the module loading rpocess it freezes01:27
niels_LeeJunFan_away: No, its not - it was mor leikely menat sarcastic01:27
LeeJunFan_awayniels_: are you sure you're booting edgy's new kernel?01:27
twosouls82cox377: sorry, I was showering :P but yep for mythtv you will need a tvcard supported by the ivtv driver, such as the Hauppauge PVR-150/250/350 and the MCE's too, if I am right01:28
zombux-skolakubuntu sucks01:28
niels_LeeJunFan_away: Yes, I am absolutely sure01:28
LeeJunFan_awayniels_: does it freeze or does it say kernel panic can't mount rootfs?01:28
niels_LeeJunFan_away: it just freezes - I could sent you a snapshot01:28
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zombux-skolahow the hell do I control this01:28
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LeeJunFan_awayniels_: on my wifes computer after upgrading I had to specify the kernel option of noapic or hers would freeze as well. I didn't need that with dappers kernel.01:29
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LeeJunFanniels_: sent to me how?01:29
niels_LeeJunFan: where do i have to do that? Basically I guess I will start the Box in recovery moide and then...?01:29
niels_LeeJunFan: by mail I would sent it01:30
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LeeJunFanniels_: when you get the grub boot menu listing hit e, then highlight the kernel line and e again and add noapic to the end of options. To make it permanent you have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst01:30
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Nordirzdar :D01:31
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zombux-skolawoknum zdar01:31
LeeJunFanniels_: oh, sry - you said sent and my brain must not have processed "could" when I read it :)01:31
thoolzombux-skola: no lol :)01:31
Nordirthool: lol01:31
zombux-skolaso, what's up with this?01:32
zombux-skolahow do I install vncviewer?01:32
LeeJunFanzombux-skola: what's up with what? if you want any kind of intelligent response you'll need to provide more info explaining your issue with kubuntu.01:33
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zombux-skolaI downloaded it to my personal folder but I can not see it there01:33
zombux-skolaseems pretty weird to me01:33
niels_LeeJunFan: its still freezing...*grrrr*01:33
zombux-skolaeven if I enable viewing hidden folders01:33
LeeJunFanzombux-skola: there's a program called krfb for kde you can install by using adept.01:33
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zombux-skolahmm ok I will try it01:33
LeeJunFanzombux-skola: open adept and search for vnc you'll find a few different choices, also you probably want to enable universe and multiverse repositories.01:34
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:34
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zombux-skolawell I have VNC server at my remote PC but I need to connect to it01:34
niels_LeeJunFan: what will happen if I would reinstall Dapper? Will it format my hdd?01:34
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LeeJunFanniels_: might want to try asking in #kubuntu-testers or #ubuntu+q01:35
LeeJunFan#ubuntu+1 that is01:35
gnomefreakniels_: thats up to you01:35
LeeJunFanniels_: yeah, well - you'd have the option to format, depending on how your hd is partitioned, it might not be so bad.01:35
gnomefreakniels_: the installer as any other installer did for ubuntu asks wher eyou wan tto install it01:36
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niels_gnomefreak: basically I haven't made partitions for home or so01:37
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gnomefreakniels_: save anything you _need_ to disk or something before doing anything01:39
niels_gnomefreak: how, if I am not getting anywhwhere, the system freezes right after the startup of Kubuntu?01:39
gnomefreakniels_: than i guess you dont01:40
gnomefreakniels_: maybe livecd01:40
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cox377twosouls82: N1:)01:40
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gnomefreaklivecd should work or boot in safe mode01:40
Ash-FoxHow does one start java webstart under Ubuntu? I tried 'javaws', but I get a 'Splash: sysCreateListenerSocket failed: No such file or directory'01:40
KrAmMeRwhats a good history cleaning program?01:41
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gnomefreakAsh-Fox: its in the menu atleast in gnome it is01:41
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niels_gnomefreak: damn...I knew it sort of, but I thought, I was hoping that there could be another way to solve that prob01:41
KrAmMeRi will search01:42
gnomefreakniels_: there are lots of ways to solve it you can mount it from windows partition with help from outside apps01:42
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Ash-Foxgnomefreak, hm, not starting from there either01:43
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gnomefreakAsh-Fox: than i dont know i never use it (me and java dont like eachother01:43
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niels_gnomefreak: If I would burn me an image of hda1 - would it have all files, you think? even the hidden ones of Thunderbird in which TB stores all the mail which I received?01:44
Ash-FoxWhat a pain01:44
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gnomefreakniels_: should01:44
niels_gnomefreak: I'll give it a go01:45
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niels_gnomefreak: I'll let you folks know if worked out01:46
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Ash-FoxTheres something really weird about the way java is packed on buntu distros, I'm considering getting it from sun because of weird JDK problems01:47
Ash-Fox(And now javaws)01:47
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cox377twosouls82: , if you still about, what i was really after was a whole operating system, is there a way to have it as a OS kinda like smoothwall is as a router01:50
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hyperhello abattoir :)01:54
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SeicherlBoBi can't start a bash script from my desktop (just linking to the "programm"). is there a good way to execute shell-scripts from KDE-desktop?01:58
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tmdx120Hello all. Why doesnt file sharing work in Dapper?02:01
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:04
hypergot a small package problem... any suggestiosn?  http://www.phpfi.com/16177502:06
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yetigot a problem with kdesu, every app that involves kdesu takes ages to start, adept for example doesn't start at all02:19
yetii just get a kdesu process hangig around in ps -aux doing nothing02:20
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shadowhywindmorning all, does anyone know how to fix a problem where files i put on a fat32 in linux wont show in windows?02:21
Dr_willisthis on a hard drive in a linux box?02:22
shadowhywindyes. i have a fat32 partition to share files between windows and linux. I throw a few files and a folders onto it into linux, reboot back to windows and i can't see the files nor the folders02:23
Dr_williswere you seeing pre-existing files on the fat32 drive from linux - ?02:24
Dr_willisIt almost sounds like you dident have it mounted. and you just copied things to the /media/wheveritwassupposedtobemounted dir.02:24
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partack__Noob question for someone who will take pity on this poor Linux Iliterate..  is there some fancy command to quickly install 'QT' ? or do i have to download it untar it and all that stuff?  yknow.. something along the lines of sudo apt-get install QT or something?02:25
tmdx120hi, can one use heterogenous memory cards in a dual slot laptop?02:25
Dr_willispartack__,   by 'qt' what are you wanting?  KDE uses the QT libs..02:25
yetipartack__: what the...? QT is installed whenever you install kubuntu02:26
tmdx120for example 512 in one slot and 1024 in another?02:26
Dr_willisso they are allready there.. if you want the Developer stuff.. fire up the package manager and search for 'qt' look for stuff with -dev in the names02:26
shadowhywindno i believe it is mounted, becuase i can see the changes i make from windows *i believe*02:26
partack__oh really?  are they compiled with thread support?02:26
Dr_willisshadowhywind,  i would double check..ive  never heard of you rproblem befor.02:26
shadowhywindi am going to go check.. hehe02:26
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Dr_willisive used that mount 'feature' to hide things befor. :P02:27
yetipartack__, nfi, but why would you so desperately need thread support for qt?02:27
shadowhywindthe reason why i say it is mounted is becuase couple of files that i pasted into a different directory is there02:27
Dr_williscopy things to /mnr/cantfindme  , then mount somthing over /mnt/cantfindme :)02:27
partack__lol.. Qtella.02:27
Dr_willisshadowhywind,  Hmm.. I would guess that you some how miss-copied the files then.02:27
yetipartack__, well, just try it, if it doesn't work, it's probably not ;)02:28
partack__well i did but i got02:28
partack__Qt's moc not found! If you have installed Qt in an02:28
partack__unusual place, please use the "--with-qt-moc=" option02:28
chabhow does linux react to a change in hardware, specifically, dvd/cd-drives?02:29
yetichab: should not be any problem at all02:29
yetipartack__, oh, sorry, can't help you then, check google and ubuntuforums for qt moc02:29
Dr_willisunless ya put it on a different ide cable/slot/thang.02:29
Dr_willisthen the letter may change.02:29
Dr_willishdb may become hdd i mean. :)02:30
partack__*nod* okay =) i thought i'd ask first jsut in-case this was generic.02:30
chabDr_willis: the plan is, throwing out hdd, hdc->hdd, new hdc :)02:30
partack__thank you ^-^02:30
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chabyeti: think k3b will notice the difference on its own?02:32
Dr_willischab,  k3b has a 'setup' program. soit should be fine02:32
tmdx120Hi Doc.02:32
chabok. good. thanks.02:32
Dr_willisso you will move 1 cdrom, and then put in a NEWER cdrom in its place? so ya still have 2 drives?02:33
chabDr_willis: yes02:33
yetiby the way, why is konqueror so slow compared to firefox? do i miss some important option?02:33
Dr_willisshould be fine02:33
Dr_willisgo ask in #kde :P and get yelled at.. Lol..02:33
Dr_willisIve never noticed it being slower.02:33
chabDr_willis: I'll remove my cd-burner(hdd), put my dvd-burner in its new place (hdc->hdd), and put a new dvd-burner in as hdc02:34
yetiDr_willis: it's really much slower... i'm waiting like 30 seconds for (11 of 15 images loaded) on ubuntuforums - and it starts rendering text only when it has preloaded all the images, which is really really annoying02:34
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yetiDr_willis: i'd love to give konqueror a try cause i heard it was really well integrated with lots of media plugins in kubuntu, but the way it is, it's just unusable02:35
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Dr_willisubuntuforims can be a real real real pain at times.02:35
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Dr_willisI just use firefox for my browser most of the time. :P i got too many extensiions for it i like02:35
yetiDr_willis, what plugins for firefox do you use to play videos and video streams?02:36
Dr_willisyeti,  very few. :P02:37
Evil003hi im trying to install kubuntu on a powerbook g4 i got the cd to boot but it stopped at ubuntu@ubuntu:`$  what do i type from here to make the os boot?02:37
Dr_willisI do have one that can download videos from some sites.. so i can watch them offline.02:37
yetiDr_willis: oh. lol. okay ;)02:37
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Dr_willisyeti,  i like the adblocking, and greasemonkey addons02:38
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yetiby the way, does anyone know an option how to 'mount' tar-files or at least how to get some files from a .tar (uncompressed) without having to unpack the whole archive?02:39
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:39
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yetim4x1mum: thanks, but all the solutions concerning firefox require totem, which requires all of the gnome libs :) might give it a try anyways though, i know mplayerplug-in, but don't like it too much02:42
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Evil003could someone please tell me what i should type when it says unbuntu@ubuntu:~$ so i can boot the system?02:47
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yetiEvil003: where and when does it say so?02:48
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Evil003right now on my screen it says ( to run a command as administrator (user "root"), use sudo <command> see "man sudo_root" for details then it says ubuntu!ubuntu:~$02:50
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Evil003i mean ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ^^^02:50
Dr_willisEvil003,  if you can type.. then some how - it is booted.02:51
Dr_willisjust seems the installer dident start. which is odd.02:51
Evil003it doesnt have a gui?02:51
Dr_willisyes it does.02:51
Dr_williswhat OS was on that machine befor?02:51
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Evil003its an apple powerbook g402:51
yetiis there a metapackage i can install to get all of the fancy toolchain stuff like gcc, ld, as etc?02:52
Dr_willisso you have some Unallocated space to install ubuntu to?02:52
Dr_willisyeti,  build-essential02:52
yetiDr_willis: thanks02:52
Evil003i should cant i just run it off the cd? instead of installing02:52
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yetino you can't, you'd need a liveCD, not an installCD02:53
Dr_willisEvil003,  Not sure about how the livdcd works on Macs.. or even if it works at all.02:53
Evil003im using the desktop cd02:53
Dr_willisI wonder if theres a #ubuntuPPC channel  or check the Ubuntu FOrums/wikis02:53
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tmdx120Why can I to a share files on Dapper?02:54
Evil003am i using the wrong cd? or witch one is the install cd i need to download02:54
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Dr_willistmdx120,  samba for ubuntu->winows shareing, or ssh/scp/winscp is easier to setup02:56
gpeektmdx120: whay do you mean?02:56
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Dr_willisEvil003,  no idea.. my onmy mac is in the closet.  I suggest asking in #ubuntu, or #ubuntuppc02:56
Evil003ok thanks02:56
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tmdx120Im not sharing window. My SOHO is stricty linux02:57
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Dr_willistmdx120,  then use scp02:57
Dr_willisor nfs if you want perment shared directories.02:57
Dr_willisor ya could use samba if you want. :)02:57
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tmdx120Dr_willis: scp?02:57
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Dr_willisscp - ssh's copy command.02:58
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tmdx120LOL! Ok, now I have to go RTFM. LOL02:58
Dr_willisor use the  fish:\ kioslave feature of KDE's file manager to access the remote machines via ssh02:58
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m4x1mumcan kaffein play dvd?02:59
Dr_willisYou can use the fish kioslave like this: fish://hostname or fish://username@hostname.02:59
shadowhywindok so i just unmounted my fat32 and remounted it (in linux) and now i have like 70 .rec files02:59
Dr_willisshadowhywind,  you are using windows xp on that box?03:00
shadowhywindyah, duel booting03:00
Dr_willisYou realize theres a tool for XP that lets it read/write to ext2/3 filesystems? :P03:00
shadowhywindno i didn't hehe03:01
Dr_willisthe use of a fat32 'data-swap' has been tossed out the window for me. :)03:01
tmdx120Dr_willis: silly newbie question, how do I determine my hostname?03:01
Dr_willisi stillgot NO idea how you were scresing that up.03:01
Dr_willistmdx120,  hostname command. :)03:01
Dr_williswillis@Audigy:~$ hostname03:02
Dr_willisor its in my BASH prompt. :)03:02
tmdx120Dr_willis: Thanks!03:02
shadowhywindso minus my fat32 issue, does anyone know about random fsckxxxx.rec files?03:02
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tmdx120Dr_willis: so I can type that on my other comuter to acces the one I want?03:03
Dr_willissounds like the drive was not  cleanly unmounted/written to -  or fsck checked it and found it lacking. :P03:03
Dr_willistmdx120,  type what where?03:03
tmdx120Ok, I want my laptop to access my desktop files.03:04
Dr_willisfish://username@hostname          - is for the KDE file manager - its a Konqueroer feature03:04
shadowhywindit seams to do this everytime i boot linux, any ideas on how to stop them from creating03:04
Dr_willisshadowhywind,  you may want to check the fstab entry for your fat32 drive.03:04
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shadowhywindvfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       103:05
shadowhywindit looks right03:05
Dr_willisuft8 ? Hmm03:06
Dr_willisDefacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume03:06
Dr_willismay want to look at their examples there.. i dont have any vfat partitiosn to check with03:06
Dr_willisi dont think you want 0 103:06
Dr_willisbut i forget what those #'s do :)03:06
shadowhywindfunny thing is this is the default setup from install03:06
Dr_williso got 0 1 also..hmm03:07
Dr_willis/dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       103:07
Dr_willisfor my ntfs drive03:07
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shadowhywindmy mtab says 0 003:07
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mindspinI'd like to lay around a bit with kino, but the program doesn't load ani media files, (avi, mpg) do I have to change the format in advance?03:09
mindspinplay even03:09
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m4x1mumwhats a better player than kaffeine?03:11
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yetim4x1mum: kaffeine is pretty good imho. for DVDs, i also like vlc (videolan.org)03:11
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m4x1mumdo you know how to make it able to play avi, mkv and those stuff? i dont really understand the  website given by that ubotu bot03:13
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mindspinthere you'll find information03:13
mindspinyou have to install the specific codecs03:13
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shadowhywindok so i added a file, unmounted and remounted, shutdown linux booted in windows and still nodda, any ideas?03:15
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m4x1mumanyone know a software that can limit the bandwidth of application?03:16
m4x1mumaaaah thanks03:17
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shadowhywindanychance could it be file permissions screwing up on me?03:19
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Dr_willisshadowhywind,  i doubt it..03:19
mindspinshadowhywind: can you explain what you are doing, I did not read your first questions03:19
shadowhywindi have a duelboot system. I have a fat32 partition that i create a folder or files in linux, wheni boot into windows and go to the partition, i can not see the files nor the folder03:20
mindspinin windows03:20
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shadowhywindbut in a werid twist, some files that i put into a different directory is there03:21
mindspinyou have "show all folders" enabled?03:21
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mindspinhave you tried copying the files into "existing" i.e. "windows"directories?03:23
m4x1mumshow hidden file03:23
shadowhywindthat does work03:23
shadowhywindbut creating a folder in linux, or just creating files in the partition doesn't show in windows, Only shows in windows "made" directories03:24
mindspincould be a permission thing , did you chmod the directories and its contetn to 777 ?03:24
shadowhywindno not yet, i was going to try that but you started talking *snickers*03:25
mindspinis it a partition used by both os or say a "special" partitiuon where you want to have your linux files ?03:25
shadowhywindits used by both03:25
mindspinso the partition itself is recognized by windows03:26
shadowhywindi have windows programs, firefox profiles, and stuff like that03:26
flaccidisn't it a fat32 partition03:26
flaccidyou can't chmod 777 on fat03:26
shadowhywindit is a fat3203:26
mindspinwhat can you do permission-related ?03:26
flaccidthere is none on fat03:27
mindspinso permission is not the point ?03:27
flaccidshadowhywind: you need windows help.03:27
mindspinyeh ;-)03:27
flaccidyou can set umask etc. when mounting the part. with linux03:27
reisihow do i know which methods are actually implemented by the SimpleXMLElement?03:28
mindspinas workaround, create a folder Linux (in win) and move all your stugff there03:28
shadowhywindok, thanks03:28
reisifuck, wrong window03:29
flaccidhehe thought so03:29
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flaccidwhat language?03:29
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flaccidjava prolly03:31
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m4x1mumis there a software that monitor network activity?03:32
m4x1muma gui ones?03:32
flaccidin what way03:32
flaccidbandwidth meter03:32
flaccidor snmp?03:32
m4x1mumbandwidth meter03:32
flaccidi recommend knetstats03:32
flaccidhave to compile but03:33
flaccidthere is others03:34
flaccidi can't think of the one that comes with ubuntu03:34
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flaccidyeah m4x1mum if you want something more than an icon and a graph get ethereal like mindspin said03:36
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vltHello, I have a strange problem with kubuntu dapper 6.06: One user just told me his keyboard was broken. He already tried to solve it by rebooting but he still couldn't write any chars in his office app. I asked him how he managed to login with broken kbd ... which led us to the interesting fact that not the kbd itself was broken but KDE didn't accept any keys. Only [space]  and [backspace]  are working, and if I press CTRL+ALT+F1 the help function03:39
vlt is activated. While logged in as another user the keyboard works w/o problems. I couldn't find any changes In system settings -> keyboard layout: 105intl,de. When I log in as this one user via vnc all keys work. The output of `xev` shows that the pressed keys are properly recognized by X server but not interpreted by KDE. What's wrong here?03:39
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flaccidcreate a new user03:40
flaccidlogin as that user03:40
flaccidsee if you have the same problem03:40
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flaccidif that works, then there is a file to delete in kde profile. if it doesn't work then its a more major issue.03:41
vltflaccid: I tested the behavior with another (already existing) user. It works fins.03:41
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shadowhywind1your all going to hurt me.. i "fixed" my problem03:41
flaccidtry a new one03:41
flaccidyou can't hurt on irc03:41
shadowhywind1and you were right it was a windows problem03:42
shuani used to use ubuntu now i have intalled kubuntu anyone know how i can access the add applications? i need to use the dictionary aswell03:42
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shadowhywind1my problem was i was bringing windows back from hibernation, as soon as i restarted windows everything was there03:42
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msm_hi all!03:43
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msm_there is someone who can help me, Please?03:43
flaccidsure msm03:44
flaccidshuan: you want to add applications?03:44
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto03:44
flaccidtry that03:44
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msm_I'm finding a way to launch every application in Kubuntu using kdesu without promt it anytime03:44
msm_ther is a way?03:44
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flaccidmsm: not on ubuntu03:45
msm_then i have to launch every app fro run command prompt or modify evry command adding kdesu???03:45
flaccidwhy don't you run them normally?03:46
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msm_sorry for my english ;)03:46
flaccidwhy do you require root access to every application?03:46
yetiwhat identd do you guys use? i used to use fakeidentd, but i see it's not in the ubuntu repositories03:46
shuananyone know how i can acccess the dictionary03:47
msm_in example I use eclipse to develop some mine applications. When I compile my Tomcat project I have no permission to access tomcat folders03:47
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msm_the same happens when I use konqueror.. and more03:48
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shuananyone used ubuntu before kubuntu03:48
flaccidmsm_: you need to add your user to the group those files/dirs use03:48
flaccidshuan: which dictionary?03:49
shuanubuntu has a dictionary03:49
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shuankubuntu has a few less things than ubuntu03:49
shuanim goin back03:49
shuankubuntu looks nice an all03:49
shuanbut its not for me03:49
flaccidif you find the name you can probably install it03:50
flaccidim sorry i havnt used the dictionary03:50
shuanits jus called dictionary03:50
shuani tried to install it through package manager03:50
flaccidyeah its from a dif source03:50
flaccidlet me have a look03:50
msm_flaccid: now i'm viewing a group "sudo". Associating my userID to this group can help me?03:51
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flaccidmsm_: what is the own and group of the files and folders you need access to?03:51
hyperhow can I setup remote desktopping so that I can connect at work (with a window box) to my kubuntu machine?03:52
msm_flaccid: owner is root03:52
flaccidshuan: there is kdict03:52
hypermsm: why do you want to joing teh sudo group?03:52
flaccidmsm_: group?03:52
shuanthat will do03:52
n8k99hyper: i believe that you need to run krfb03:52
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m4x1mumaaah i found a nice lightweight software, knetdock hehehe03:53
flaccidyep thats the one03:53
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flaccidbut i prefer knetstats myself03:53
msm_flaccid: I don't know. I've believed that this group allow me to work with permission on root files/directories..03:53
dennisterflaccid: sorry about last night03:54
flaccidmsm_: is this on a local partition or mounted network share?03:54
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msm_flaccid: local partition03:54
hypern8k99: thx :) looking at it03:54
flaccidand the owner of the files you need is sudo?03:54
n8k99hyper: you may need to send yourself an email invitation03:54
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hypern8k99: Remote Desktopping is way nice for doing certain things than just SSH :)03:55
msm_flaccid: the owner is root. I've install as root using sudo03:55
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flaccidmsm_: ok03:55
srednaHm, no kde 3.5.5 packages yet?03:55
hypermsm_: it's better to give yourself temporary sudo rigths and joining the sudo group03:55
flaccidmsm_: change the group of the files to your user03:55
vltflaccid: I added a new user and logged in to KDE. The keyboard works without problems.03:55
yetican i remove MDADM from all runlevels if i do not have lvm/softraid?03:55
n8k99hyper: yeah i know, i control my Mac Mini through Krdc even as it is only ten feet away!!03:56
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:56
msm_flaccid: I think that I have sudo rights cause I can use sudo command!03:56
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository03:56
flaccidvlt: ok. have you had any other loss of config for any applications or any other problems?03:56
flaccidmsm_: thats right. because you are in the admin group. so change the group of the files to either your user or admin03:56
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto03:56
msm_flaccid: Sorry, I'm new by linux and kubuntu03:57
vltflaccid: No. Didn't notice any.03:57
flaccidok let me find that filename03:57
m4x1mumi just need to install these on kubuntu right?  libxine-extracodecs, w32codecs, libarts1-mpeglib, libarts1-xine, libakode2-mpeg03:57
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m4x1mumno need to worry about the media player?03:57
hypern8k99: you're too lazy ^^03:57
dennisteradept is locked up again by incomplete java installs03:58
n8k99hyper: you could say that! :)03:58
msm_flaccid: Can I give permission on usr folder? Every subfolder inherit from usr?03:58
dennister<------forgot how to remove them from cache03:58
m4x1mummy adept also lock up frequently dont know why :(03:58
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dennisteri know why: bad installs; u have to clear em from cache03:59
flaccidmsm_: do not do that to /usr03:59
dennisterbut i forgot how03:59
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flaccidvlt: hmm not sure which file it is04:00
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msm_flaccid: I try to add "sudo" to Group field in tab "Permission" in folder property. You suggest me to do that only on needed folders?04:00
flaccidmsm_: no change the group of the files to admin04:01
flaccidthen you do not have to sudo04:01
khirrhow coul i change my desktop theme?04:01
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m4x1mumlibxine-extracodecs, w32codecs, libarts1-mpeglib, libarts1-xine, libakode2-mpeg <-- this will enable kaffeine to play avi?04:01
flaccidkhirr: goto kmenu > system settings > appearance04:02
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khirrwhere can i see?04:02
n8k99khirr: system settings>appearance04:02
msm_flaccid: well! Thank you. You think that may be dangerous to grant permission (change group) on folder usr/lib?04:02
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hypern8k99: Is just one port being used? I remember VNC on Windoze required two ports being forwarded04:02
msm_flaccid: It may cause an instable system?04:02
khirri'm doing that04:02
flaccidmsm_: yes do not do that. leave that in tact. you can change group on /usr/lib/subfolder/* but not /usr/lib/*04:03
n8k99hyper: when you are coming into your linux box, I believe it is just one port04:03
flaccidn8k99: vnc is usually 1 port being 5900 by default04:03
dennisterk; found the place to remove em from cache04:03
hypern8k99: thx :)04:03
dennisterbb soon04:03
flaccidoops i meant hyper..04:04
n8k99hyper: your protocol will be VNC into the linux box like flaccid said04:04
khirri've seen screenshots where there are some information in the desktop about your pc (for example ram, disk space) and looked like nice04:04
khirrhow could i do that with my desktop?04:04
m4x1mumlibxine-extracodecs, libarts1-mpeglib, libarts1-xine, libakode2-mpeg <-- is this for kaffeine?04:04
ubotuvnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.04:04
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n8k99khirr: i think that is called konqi04:05
khirrwhat's that?04:05
msm_flaccid: All right! Thanks for your help. I try to do this. At next time. Sorry another time for my english. I'm italian, where are you from?04:05
flaccidaustralia mate04:05
n8k99khirr: a program that puts all the sysinfo on your desktop - but i could be wrong04:05
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n8k99khirr: " i've seen screenshots where there are some information in the desktop about your pc (for example ram, disk space) and looked like nice"04:06
n8k99khirr: or do you mean "why could you be wrong?"04:07
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hypern8k99/flaccid: is it 5900 tcp or udp?04:07
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n8k99hyper: i amnot certain04:09
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hyper_back again04:10
n8k99khirr: i could be wrong- because, well, a whole slew of reasons, but in this case because I only remember such a package from the customization forum04:10
flaccidmy x11vnc. issued command fuser -v 5900/tcp. result: 5900/tcp:            flaccid   20304 F.... x11vnc04:11
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flaccidif you are doing remote vnc with no encryption. consider over ssh or vpn.04:11
khirri'd like can have my desktop as screenshots, them looked like nice04:12
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flaccidi'm sleeping04:12
flaccidn8k99: actually its both udp and tcp for most vnc servers i believe04:13
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flaccid5900/udp:            flaccid   20304 F.... x11vnc04:13
khirrhow could i download software for my kubuntu distribution, i dunno, i use to download sft for mi OS, but never can install04:13
khirrare no the correct to  my OS04:13
khirrhow can i know that this "version" of software is for me?04:13
mindspinadept is your friend04:14
n8k99khirr: you can use a program called adept to download and install new packages from teh kubuntu repositories04:14
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n8k99flaccid: thanx mate!04:14
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khirrwhere can get that program?04:14
mindspinits already installed04:14
hyper_khirr: adept should already be installed :)04:14
khirri'll chek04:14
n8k99khirr:look in your kmenu under system, should be first on the list04:14
khirris Spanish version my kubuntu04:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about spanish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:15
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.04:15
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hyper_close to it :)04:15
n8k99hyper:brilliant!! ;-)04:16
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khirrbut, if i wanna install emule, opera or other soft, what can i do?04:16
m4x1mumalright videos work!!04:16
mindspinn8k99: when you open it, there's a search field, type in name or keyword for the program and adept shows the software04:17
m4x1mumyou can install opera by downloading from opera website, make sure you download the one for ubuntu04:17
mindspinkhirr:  already04:17
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khirri cant found opera with that program04:18
mindspinno worrys, I m a bit lost ;-)04:18
m4x1mumjust get it from opera's website, they have the distribution for ubuntu/kubuntu04:18
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mindspinisn't opera in the "commercial repository" I'm not sure04:18
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khirrbut, i cant install04:19
n8k99khirr: you may need to edit your sources.list in order to allow the non-free packages04:19
khirrfor example for opera04:19
khirrwhat should i add in my line?04:19
khirrwhat line shoul i agree?04:19
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m4x1mumright click the .deb > kubuntu package menu > install package04:20
n8k99khirr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto?highlight=%28repositories%2904:20
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sdculverAnybody know where mark shuttleworth is chatting?04:21
mindspinadd this to your /apt/sources.list  "http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main" (when you on dapper ;-)04:21
m4x1mumwhat software i nedd to display subtitle files? .sub or .idx files?04:22
n8k99sdculver: sabdfl is not online alot- world domination and all that04:22
mindspin!seen sabdfl04:23
ubotusabdfl is on IRC right now!04:23
khirrdeb http://mirror3.ubuntulinux.nl/ dapper-seveas freenx04:24
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khirrwhat direction should i put?04:24
khirrfor example to opera04:24
zorglu_[16:23]  <mindspin> add this to your /apt/sources.list  "http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main" (when you on dapper ;-)04:25
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mindspinafter you had added the pasted line above to your file04:25
mindspinupdate in adept and opera is shown when you type opera in the search field04:25
mindspinthen you klick on install and you should be fine04:26
zblachhey all. ndiswrapper and eft beta. how's that working out?04:26
khirra litle confuse (:(04:26
mindspinkhirr: you have adept open ?04:26
mindspinok I'll guide you04:27
khirrthank you so much04:27
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mindspinif you klick on adept (the first entry in the menu at top) you see something like "edit sources" klick on it04:28
khirredit sources?04:28
mindspinor manage packet sources04:29
mindspinI#m on a german system ;-)04:29
khirrmy is in spanish :D04:29
mindspinso what is the second entry called?04:30
khirri'm in one menu that say New Repository04:30
khirrwhat should i do here?04:30
mindspinklick on it , you'll see a list of lines, similiar to the one I posted04:30
mindspinhttp://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main04:30
zorglu_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu <- for a step by step guide on how to add new repository04:30
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mindspinhehe we could do it privately, but its not much traffic in here..04:31
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khirri cant ...04:32
mindspinkhirr: paste the line into the field beneath th list04:32
khirrsay a mess04:32
zorglu_my intention was not to push you away, more to let you know04:32
scott_I have been trying to install java through the multiuniverse...and still having troubles...can anyone help me out here?04:32
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scott_can anyone give me a few moments on java installation?04:34
Vulc4nI'm having an issue wih KDE not starting on my installation04:34
Vulc4nI get a mouse cursor and hen nothing else04:34
m4x1mumis there any gui bandwidth limitter?04:35
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scott_how good are you at java installation vulc?04:35
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Vulc4nI probably can'thelp you04:36
Vulc4nI don't have much experience in linux04:36
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scott_anyone else good with java installation?04:36
zorglu_m4x1mum: not that i know of, why do you want that ?04:36
zorglu_scott_: describe your problem04:36
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m4x1mumwell because my internet connection is shared by 3 pc, thats why04:37
scott_I can get into adept manager...but can not get it to take a multi universe setting04:37
m4x1mumi want something similar to netlimiter in windows if you know what it is04:37
scott_at least...that is what I think I am supposed to do?04:37
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m4x1mumscott_ you need to edit the repository manager, add universe and multiverse then click apply04:38
zorglu_m4x1mum: it is possible to have bw limiter, but not easy to setup. it is called queue discipline on linux04:38
zorglu_!info tc04:38
ubotuPackage tc does not exist in any distro I know04:38
scott_I understand...but when I do that the main restricted under components keeps coming back04:39
m4x1mumscott_ did you add a new line or append to the current line?04:39
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zorglu_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu <- scott_ have you tried tih04:39
scott_I tried to append the current line04:39
m4x1mumhmm it should work though, cause i did that as well04:40
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m4x1mumyou need to click the apply button before doing any fetch updates04:40
Vulc4nso anyone have any ideas for me to try to get KDE to load?04:40
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zorglu_m4x1mum: http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.qdisc.html <- is a link on how to do it. it is far from easy tho04:41
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zorglu_apparently nobody is able to write a 'good' tool on top of iptable and tc04:42
zorglu_not that i know of at least04:42
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m4x1mumlol ooh well, thats means im stuck with the console software that limits bandwidth as a whole, instead of individual software :(04:43
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cpk2firestarter supposedly is pretty good for managing iptables04:45
kumsywhich is the fastest torrent client in kubuntu04:47
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apport - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:49
scott_ok...I got the universe multiverse activated...now how to I enable java?04:49
rambo3ask ubotu04:49
rambo3send priv04:49
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visik7scott_: aptitude install sun-java5-bin sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin04:50
ccckumsy: ktorrent is the best kde bittorrent client IMO. but use the latest kubuntu deb from ktorrent.org04:50
m4x1mumim interested in torrent client too!, azureus is too bloated and ktorrent is not that configurable04:50
m4x1mumthe best i've seen is utorrent but only for windows04:50
ccckumsy: instead of the one in repos, that is04:50
scott_type that in a terminal?04:50
praguehi all. i recently updated kubuntu 5.10 and lost the kde menu for my network settings. System Settings -> Network -  how can I restore this?04:50
zorglu_!java > scott_04:51
Vulc4nI'm still stuck at that blank creen with just a mouse cursor04:51
cccm4x1mum: what settings do you miss in ktorrent?04:51
Vulc4nis there a way to switch to a console?04:51
zorglu_ccc: how do you make it download automatically in a given directory instread of asking to the destination directory for each torrent ?04:51
scott_explain that for me zorglu?04:51
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository04:52
rambo3what was it ctrl+alt+f704:52
cccVulc4n: yes, ctrl+alt+f1... and ctrl+alt+f7 to get back04:52
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zorglu_scott_: this link explein how to install java04:52
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ccczorglu_: it's in the settings, "Automatically save downloads to:"04:53
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zorglu_ccc: i already got this one configured, but it still ask me...04:54
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ccczorglu_: at least in version 2.0.204:54
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zorglu_ccc: i run the 1.2 version... this may explain the bug04:54
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ccczorglu_: indeed :)04:55
cccthat's very old04:55
shuananyone know why kubuntu will not recognize my cellphone memory card04:55
zorglu_!info ktorrent04:55
ubotuktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2-0ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 738 kB, installed size 2964 kB04:55
ccczorglu_: get the kubuntu deb from ktorrent.org04:55
zorglu_ccc: still the last available on dapper :)04:55
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zorglu_yep i willhtanks04:56
m4x1mumaaah no wonder, my ktorrent is outdated thats why its missing out functionality compared with other clients04:56
nukuthe latest ktorrent is in dapper-backports...04:57
cccoh, it's in backports now04:57
Vulc4nccc: what id ctrl + alt + F1 does nothing?04:57
m4x1mumsay, if my cpu is amd64, i should download the amd64?04:58
zblachanyone get ndiswrapper to work?04:58
m4x1mumor does that amd64 simply refer to 64bit OS?04:58
MetaMorfoziSwhy my kubuntu dapper restarts instead shutdown if i go to the kmenu, and select logout and SHUTDOWN , not restart...?!04:58
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cpk2MetaMorfoziS: does poweroff shut down the computer?05:00
MetaMorfoziSnot alltimes05:00
MetaMorfoziSsometimes it's stops before shutdown, and black or memorybug feel screen that it shows05:01
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cccVulc4n: then i dunno. that should work, it has always worked for me. all i can think of is some keyboards need the "F-lock" enabled to activate the F-keys.05:01
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Arlingtonanyone using slimserver from slimdevices under kubuntu.05:01
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MetaMorfoziSany idea?05:03
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rambo3MetaMorfoziS, check dmesg . and such see whats in:  cat /etc/rc0.d/S90halt05:05
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MetaMorfoziSi dunno what i need to do with thats05:06
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rambo3you can check to see if there is some device that messing it . see va/log/syslog too , /etc/rc0.d/ are links to what is done on shutdown . programs and such05:09
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MetaMorfoziS[17179635.180000]  ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A]  -> Link [LNKA]  -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 1005:12
MetaMorfoziSthis is problem?05:12
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MetaMorfoziSi paste my dmesg05:13
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alain_i have a problem with the sound system in kde05:13
alain_if I use autodetect, i get a cpu overload warning05:14
rambo3MetaMorfoziS, use pastebin05:14
alain_if i manually select open sound system everything is fine05:14
alain_its in 6.1005:14
alain_in 6.06 it worked fine05:14
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MetaMorfoziSthisis my dmesg05:17
alain_anyone an idea?05:17
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rambo3MetaMorfoziS, is it a laptop or dekstop , and how old is it05:17
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n8k99alain: i have teh same problem in 6.1005:17
n8k99alain: or at least similar05:18
MetaMorfoziSit is a laptop, about 2years old, noname machine.05:18
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MetaMorfoziSSysinfo for 'macisajt': Linux 2.6.15-27-k7 running KDE 3.5.4, CPU: mobile AMD Athlon XP-M 2000+ at 1658 MHz (1328 bogomips), HD: 23/36GB, RAM: 184/186MB, 88 proc's, 10.51h up05:18
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jon_there a ubuntu dapper repository for gnome 2.1605:19
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Hobbsee!info gnome-panel05:19
ubotugnome-panel: launcher and docking facility for GNOME 2. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 379 kB, installed size 928 kB05:19
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Hobbseejon_: no05:19
jon_Hobbsee: not even non-official?05:20
damjan!info xgl05:20
ubotuPackage xgl does not exist in any distro I know05:20
damjan!info compiz05:20
ubotucompiz: OpenGL composition manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.2-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 125 kB, installed size 424 kB05:20
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Hobbseejon_: i dont know of any.  if you're going to backport all of the stuff in edgy, you may as well upgrade to it05:21
jon_is edgy released now?05:21
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n8k99jon: edgy is beta105:22
n8k99it is nice, still some more work in some areas05:22
jon_is it safe to upgrade?05:22
jon_from dapper?05:22
rambo3MetaMorfoziS, i think its your acpi search forums for:  asus-acpi off05:22
n8k99it's probably better to clean install05:22
hyper_jon_ I installed edgy directly... have no problems so far05:23
jon_i'll leave it for now. might do it later.05:23
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MetaMorfoziSwhy asus?05:23
dennisterI am finding this java business in kubuntu sooooooo frustrating!05:23
hyper_isn't the edgy stable release planned by the end of the month?05:23
MetaMorfoziSi have mitac motherboard05:23
n8k99dennister:java or javascript?05:24
dennisterjava...have made some progress, but not enough05:24
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RichEdFinal edgy release date: Thu 26th Occt05:24
TheGateKeeperdennister: so you got kubuntu installed then :-)05:24
dennisteroh i've had kubuntu installed for some time now05:25
RichEdQuick Poll: how many of the people lurking & active here are involved in the Education sector using Kubuntu ?05:25
dennisteri'm trying to troubleshoot azureus, which i know well from windows, but that means improving the java support05:25
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TheGateKeeperdennister: oh I remember you where trying to tidy up yesterday05:25
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dennisteryes TheGateKeeper, and it's quite clean now, ty05:26
TheGateKeeperdennister: good stuff :-)05:26
rambo3MetaMorfoziS, try this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2438805:26
dennisterbut 'm thinking of getting rid of the whole tuner busienss and just downloading05:27
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dennisterso i need a drag'ndrop filesharing05:27
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n8k99dennister: dnd filesharing on your network, cant you do that in konqueror?05:28
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MetaMorfoziSrambo3: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26083/05:28
MetaMorfoziSi have this acpis05:28
MetaMorfoziSi read forward05:28
dennisteri've been following the java howto on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-6524a0c56845e40dccd32676dad42830325e570705:28
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MetaMorfoziSrambo3: and i turn off acpi, it's not causes problems? for example fans never started again if it overheats etc?05:29
dennisterand while i now have a box for java plugins in firefox (b4 i had only the puzzle piece) that's as far as i can get05:29
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rambo3MetaMorfoziS, acpi turnes off fans, if you have no acpi then they will spin forever05:29
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MetaMorfoziSi'm don't want that...05:30
dennisteri can't even find the 'configure firefox" option in Firefox's tools05:30
dennisterit used to be there...05:30
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TheGateKeeperdennister: Edit --> preferences05:31
LeeJunFan_awayrovclock can underclock your radeon card too to keep your gpu fan from needing to spin all the time.05:31
LeeJunFan_awayI cut my gpu clockrate in 1/2 and still xgl/beryl works as fast as ever.05:31
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dennisterTheGateKeeper: i've got java and javascript enabled there05:32
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TheGateKeeperdennister: installed the plugin?05:33
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dennisteroh, the tools "configure" for plugins that I was remembering came from konq05:36
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dennisterbut certainly in firefox i've even made the links....that enabled the java box at least (as opposed to the puzzle pieces)05:37
dennisterand i have a GCJ web plugin now, too05:38
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dennisterbut it's showing exception errors :-(05:38
dennisterlike at the top of that applet: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: while resolving class: jreVerify05:39
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mindspin!tell me about easysource05:40
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ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic05:41
dennisterTheGateKeeper: any ideas?05:42
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ubuntu__huhu, it works05:43
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TheGateKeeperdennister: what is the url you are going to?05:43
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dennisterTheGateKeeper: it's a speedtest site from AzureusWiki: http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest?loc=4&premium=05:44
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intelikeyhmmm my script that oppens tty's for me works every place except tty1  for some reason init closes that console on me.   i could move the script that opens it to the last thing init does but that almost defeats the purpose...   any thoughts ?05:45
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Kr4t05Man, this is the one thing I don't like about doing a fresh install.05:46
TheGateKeeperdennister: don't know why you are having a problem, however there are loads of bandwidth speed test web sites, just google05:46
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Kr4t05I need to make a script that will get/install easyubuntu, run it, and update all of my other packages.05:47
dennisteri know there are lots of sites, but they all have the faulty java applet, so its the java on my pc that's not right05:48
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cpk2dennister: i dont see anything on that page either =(05:50
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dennisterhm...should i be masquerading as another browser? or simply reboot my machine?05:51
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dennisteri know konq has to have kde reloaded b4 changes take affect05:51
kappellaiothere are somebody from italy?05:52
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ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!05:52
dennistera lot of these speed test sites also give other apps to download, but i'm nervous about these other apps cause they're generally for windows05:52
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cpk2i dont know why i cant load that page either, I am using sun java05:53
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dennisteri can load the page, but not the applet...it's got to be something to do with these GCG web plugin error messages05:54
cpk2err well i meant the applet =x05:54
cpk2I dont get any errors on konq05:54
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cpk2at least firefox tells me I am missing the java plugin05:55
alain_anyone knows where i report a bug about artsd05:55
dennisterok :) i'm glad i got the previous page working well though...it had icons where it now has text05:55
dennisterfirefox isn't telling me i'm missing anythng05:55
SharketorI would know how I can enable cd rom il adept05:55
intelikeyalain_ malone05:55
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Sharketor*in adept05:56
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dennisterTheGateKeeper: have u given up? moved on to other matters?05:56
SharketorWho can help me????05:57
dennisterSharketor: hold on a sec05:57
n8k99Sharketor: what seems to be the trouble?05:57
dennisterk...better techies than this noob have time ;D05:57
SharketorI have to install the linux headers, which are on cd rom05:58
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dennisterI'm going to reboot to restart kde and hopefully get the plugin in konq05:58
n8k99Sharketor: do you have the cd?05:59
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intelikeySharketor apt-cache search linux-headers    && sudo apt-get install linux-headers-<your version>06:00
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n8k99alain: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/arts/+bugs06:00
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Sharketorwell, I have no internet connection06:01
SharketorNow I'm on xp06:01
intelikeyyou installed from the cd correct ?06:02
Sharketorlinux headers need me to install modem drivers on kubuntu06:02
Sharketoryes, i installed from live cd06:02
intelikeySharketor so then; apt-cache search linux-headers    && sudo apt-get install linux-headers-<your version>06:02
Sharketorok, thanks06:03
LjLsudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` shoudl also do the trick, without looking up the version manually06:03
Sharketoranother question: where is in kubuntu the file with the list of operative system???06:04
LjLyou mean /boot/grub/menu.lst i think06:04
Sharketorljl: this doesn't work, already tried06:04
LjLtake care when editing that file, though, you might render the system unusable06:04
LjLi see06:04
LjLwell, what does "uname -r" say anyway?06:04
trappistwell, nice thing about grub is you can still boot even if you screw up the config06:04
intelikeySharketor if for some strange reason that doesn't work.   use   sudo apt-cdrom add06:04
LjLtrappist: yeah, you have to know how though06:05
intelikeyand yes the file you ask about is /boot/grub/menu.lst06:05
trappistLjL: yeah, and good luck getting on irc from the grub prompt06:05
Sharketorok, I try06:05
Sharketorthank all06:05
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LjLtrappist: that would be a useful feature, though06:05
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intelikeywell time to make hey while the sun is shining...06:08
cpk2how about irc from bios? =)06:08
LjLcpk2: well, the BIOS is something i'd scrap completely, so no06:08
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Admiral_Chicagohold on06:08
intelikeyLjL irc from grub   hehhe   didn't think that one through did you...  :)06:08
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raul12 PLZ HELP READ THESE  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26088/06:08
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yetiis there any command that lists all files that belong to an installed package06:09
apokryphosraul12: no caps please06:09
LjLintelikey: well, i do really believe it wouldn't be hard if you just focused on just irc with a specific device (say, a hardware dial-up modem). of course, though, it makes no sense06:09
raul12 ok sry06:09
LjLyeti: dpkg -L packagename06:09
TheGateKeeperraul12: may be of assisstance idk ---> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava06:10
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milanhi when executing google earth it says it can't find libXcursor.so.106:10
milanbut i do have that libary06:10
yetiLjL, thanks06:10
milanim on 64-bit06:10
LjLintelikey: heh yeah, you have a point about exploitable bootloaders not being necessarily a good thing ;)06:10
apokryphosraul12: it won't work06:11
LjL!info libxcursor106:11
apokryphosraul12: debian-based systems aren't biarch-compatible unfortunately06:11
ubotulibxcursor1: X cursor management library. In component main, is optional. Version (dapper), package size 21 kB, installed size 72 kB06:11
intelikeyi gota go.   see yous guys laters   :)06:11
trappistmilan: I have to run google earth from a 32bit chroot06:12
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milanok.. do you know how trappist?06:12
apokryphosmilan: same issue as raul1206:12
ubotuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box06:12
raul12 then06:12
milanok thanks06:12
trappistmilan: it might be possible not to - where is your libXcursor.so.1 and what does it point to?06:13
apokryphosraul12: you do know you don't HAVE to have a 32-bit version of opera, right?06:13
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milanis this possible: /usr/lib/libXcursor.so.106:13
trappistmilan: if it's not in /usr/lib32, try installing ia32-libs-gtk06:13
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milancause there is that file06:13
milanok ill try06:13
raul12i have opera 32 virsion06:14
trappistmilan: a 32bit app like this will need 32bit libs, which (if they exist) will be in /usr/lib3206:14
apokryphosor, rather, that you can run their 32-bit version06:14
milanah ok06:14
apokryphosit's self-contained, I believe; get the static qt one06:14
raul12but i installed all lib32 files06:14
milanso i can run every 32-bit program on 64-bit kubuntu06:14
milanor just a few?06:14
milanwith the right libaries of course06:15
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milanok thanks it works :D06:15
apokryphosare you guys talking about edgy?06:15
trappistmilan: if you're lucky, all the ones that require libs available in the repos, but biarch stuff is tricky and may not always work.  so, I keep a 32bit chroot around to avoid the drama.06:15
trappistmilan: cool06:15
raul12 i also have 32 bit wine to install06:15
apokryphosdo they have seperate 32-bit packs for amd64s?06:15
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raul12 no drapper06:16
trappistapokryphos: apt-cache search ia3206:16
apokryphoshm, interesting06:16
raul12 any ideas06:17
TheGateKeeperapokryphos: if you install 64 bit & want to run flash or multimedia with codecs you have to install the 32bit stuff06:17
trappistraul12: 32bit chroot, is how I do it06:17
apokryphosTheGateKeeper: I didn't realise that was available for dapper, at all06:17
raul12 and how do i do that ??06:17
apokryphosare these 32bit libs meant to be complete?06:17
milanOpenHL really s*cks here :P06:17
trappistraul12: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot06:18
TheGateKeeperapokryphos: yep dapper has 64bit along with a lot of other distros06:18
hyper_hiho trappist06:18
raul12 ok on it06:18
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apokryphosTheGateKeeper: I don't mean 64bit, I mean 32bit libs for 64bit06:18
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apokryphoslooks like there's only a very small selection of such packages06:18
hypertrappist: already found a fix for the wallpaper thingy?06:19
apokryphos(which is as I thought)06:19
milantrappist: does this also work with Skype for linux?06:19
trappistmilan: presumably06:19
TheGateKeeperapokryphos: 64bit can run 32bit, just like 32bit can run 16bit06:19
trappisthyper: no, I started messing with other stuff06:19
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apokryphosTheGateKeeper: but it's all not very useful if your distro doesn't provide those backward-compatible packages06:19
LjLTheGateKeeper: can 64bit run 16bit?06:19
LjLapokryphos: well, it's still quite useful in that you can intall a 32bit distro on a 64bit system06:20
hypertrappist: don't worry :)it's not that bad...  I still have plenty of diskspace so I just copied them all into one folder... 18k wallpapers06:20
apokryphosand it's not all 64-bit, it's mainly amd64 which is backward compatible, right?06:20
TheGateKeeperLjL: it should be able to06:20
apokryphosLjL: I know, but for a distro to resort to that (considering amd64 has been around for so long) is really quite bad06:20
trappisthyper: you could save the disk space by making symlinks instead of copies06:20
LjLapokryphos: well, have you ever used windows 95? if so, when did you ditch the last win16 program you had running on it?06:21
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hypertrappist: hmm, you don't happen to have a scripts that makes recursive symlinks? I don't how many folders there were... probably 200-30006:22
apokryphosI probably haven't ever used win 95 for more than a couple of days, so nope06:22
trappisthyper: find -type f /path/to/wallpaper/dir -exec ln -s {} /new/wallpaperdir/ \;06:22
LjLapokryphos: well, then just believe my word that such transitions can take some good time06:22
hypertrappis: I'll write that down :) thx06:22
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hypertrappist: only 3.5 GB06:22
apokryphosLjL: in comparison to some other Linux distros, it is quite a poor show06:23
apokryphosSUSE has been biarch-compatible since like 9.1 or something06:23
milanwell, now im following a tutorial to install skype for linux on 64-bit and it says to install libqt3-mt if you are missing some libaries but that one is already istalled.06:23
milanand i do miss some libaries :P06:24
apokryphosmilan: get the static qt version of skype from their site06:24
alexiconmy dhcp is setting the resolve wrong06:24
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alexiconhow can i get the networking init script to stop changing the resolve.conf06:25
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beligumapokryphos: is that right?06:25
apokryphosand yet it's a nice big advertisement on their main download page06:25
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trappistalexicon: use static ip and routing, and not dhcp06:25
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apokryphosbeligum: Windows version: 2.5; Linux: 1.3, and has been......for ages06:25
alexiconok thanks06:25
apokryphosLinux version has seen none of the great new things that ebay brought in06:25
milan1.3 :|06:25
hypertrappist: taht will not work06:25
beligumdidn't know that06:26
apokryphosbeligum: and really, it's ridiculous, since Skype is coded in Qt06:26
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apokryphosLjL: thing is, the windows Skype version has really really good webcam support06:27
beligumdidn't know that either :)06:27
apokryphossomething that's just still not perfected on Linux at all. Kind of sucks.06:27
LjLapokryphos: well, if i had to use a webcam, i'd rather use SIP compliant software anyway -- or some other decent, open protocol for that matter, just not skyoe06:28
milani cant extract the binary :|06:28
apokryphosmilan: what's the error?06:28
milandutch error :P06:28
beligumI'm looking for some people who want to make cool software videos using ScreenKast06:29
milancant translate it06:29
LjLjust paste it06:29
apokryphosLjL: I'd prefer it, but I'd much rather see my girlfriend on a cam and not use OSS than the contrary06:29
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trappisthyper: why06:29
beligumapokryphos: lol06:29
milanow w806:29
LjLapokryphos: and i suppose you can't convince your girlfriend to use SIP software?06:29
milani dint have an extension :P06:29
hyperhyper@hyper-linux:/media/hdb3/samba$ find -type f /media/hdb3/samba/wallpapers -exec ln -s {} /new/wallpaperdir/ \;06:29
hyperfind: paths must precede expression06:29
hyperUsage: find [-H]  [-L]  [-P]  [path...]  [expression] 06:29
apokryphosLjL: SIP?06:30
milangtg thanks and bye all06:30
trappisthyper: oh, sorry: find /media/hdb3/samba/wallpapers -type f -exec ln -s {} /new/wallpaperdir/ \;06:30
TheGateKeeperLjL: can you get SIP software to work on your pc?06:30
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hypertrappist that seems to work06:30
LjLapokryphos: yeah, the protocol that's used in Ekiga, WengoPhone, KCall, Twinkle, KPhone, linphone, and by just about every voip provider in the world -- except skype06:31
hyperat least the computer is doing something06:31
LjLTheGateKeeper: well, the KDE SIP software that there's around is not quite optimal. but i think we have kphone (bleah), twinkle and wengophone in the repos06:31
apokryphosLjL: I haven't tried it; maybe I'll try out kcall now.06:31
apokryphosor maybe just ekiga06:31
LjLapokryphos: kcall's not packaged06:32
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n8k99kopete has camera support06:32
LjLapokryphos: try wengophone, for something user-friendly that also has a windows version (so you have the same software as your girlfriend)06:32
apokryphosn8k99: yeah, but it isn't great06:32
LjLwengophone runs on QT06:32
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apokryphosLjL: I have her on Linux, actually ;-), I just need to get round to doing her wireless one ofthese days06:32
TheGateKeeperLjL: I have tried both Ekiga & twinkle & can't get either of them to work properly06:32
LjLand i don't even know what protocol it uses anyway06:32
apokryphosLjL: on suse -- kcall's in repository here06:33
LjLah i see06:33
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LjLTheGateKeeper: well, i admit that all the SIP parameters can be sort of confusing at times.06:33
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apokryphosn8k99: well, at least with my webcam. They weren't very helpful at all either, really, in #kopete06:33
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alexiconwhats the default group kubuntu chosses for user home dir files06:34
LjLapokryphos: anyway if you have it packaged, yeah, imho kcall is the best of the bunch06:34
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LjLalexicon: the group with the same name as the username06:34
apokryphosalexicon: I think it's just username:username on anything06:34
alexiconooh yeah..06:35
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hypertrappist: thx06:35
trappisthyper: np06:35
LjLalexicon: when you create a user, a group is always (well if you use adduser) automaticlly added with the same name06:35
alexiconif i want to install kubuntu and share a home dir with gentoo which uses username:users06:35
TheGateKeeperLjL: I Ekiga to register my account but when I call sip:500@ekiga.net I get nothing, I think I have teamspeak working, & skype works really well on windows06:35
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n8k99apokryphos: i believe that therre is a new version of kopete that will roll out with kde 3.5.506:36
alexiconi had a conflict with kubuntu and suse before, dotfile properties get overwritten and kde doesnt like it much06:36
TheGateKeeperthe SIP clients just seem to be a bad nightmare!!06:36
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apokryphosn8k99: the newest version won't, it'll just be a bugfix release06:36
n8k99oh well06:36
apokryphosthey do have a feature-release version06:37
LjLTheGateKeeper: well, i don't have an ekiga account (and i don't have ekiga for that matter). though, i agree, SIP can be a bad beast to configure correctly... it should be made easier. still, at least, it's an open protocol that you can support easily06:37
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apokryphos0.12 IIRC06:37
n8k99it seems as if the biggest developmemts will be in the releae of kde406:38
apokryphosn8k99: indeed06:38
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TheGateKeeperLjL: fat lot of use if you can't get it to work, & I have had gentoo people trying to help, & if they can't figure it you are stuffed06:38
LjLTheGateKeeper: that's not very surprising on the other hand imho, anyway... with skype, you get something that works out of the box, but *only* with a skype account -- and you need the original skype software since the protocol is closed. SIP clients, on the other hand, can be harder to configure... but that's partly because they can work with just about any provider06:38
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apokryphoskcall looks very simplistic so far06:39
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LjLapokryphos: yeah, oh wait a moment though... i forgot that you wanted webcam for a minute. i don't know which KDE SIP clients have video support, i only know that wengophone does06:40
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apokryphosyeah, realised it doesn't have iw06:40
LjL(and ekiga, but that's not KDE)06:40
apokryphos*doens' thave it now06:40
apokryphosI'll try wengophone06:40
dughyit's possible to have same information to config wifi?06:40
n8k99Vulc4n: what is the problem?06:41
LjLapokryphos: wengophone will try to get you to register a wengo account (well, same does ekiga for that matter, IIRC), but don't be fooled -- it *is* an actual SIP client that can be configured for any SIP provider06:41
Vulc4nmight just be easier for you to read that06:41
n8k99Vulc4n: one sec06:41
LjL(and to find SIP providers, http://www.voipuser.co.uk)06:41
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LjLoh, it's voipuser.org actually06:42
hyperVulc4n: at least you got further with the install than my buddy :)06:42
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Vulc4nhyper, heh, still just as useless though :P06:42
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Vulc4nI can get to a bash prompt by choosing the second option in the bootloader06:43
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Vulc4nsomeone mentionedl ooking at a log file or something06:43
hyperVulc4n: He tried all dapper and edgy versions and got always stuck at extracting vmlinux at boot... however breezy installed fine.. but when he wanted to upgrade to dapper, after reboot the same...06:43
n8k99that's a very interesting prob you have there Vulc4n06:43
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Vulc4nI think it must have to be graphics driver problem06:44
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Vulc4nthe other interestign thing is that the live cd for ubuntu worked in 'safe grpahics mode'06:44
Vulc4nbut the kubuntu live cd did not work in safe graphics mode06:44
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Vulc4nI had to use the alternate install cd06:45
dughyplease help me......06:45
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hypervulcan: howabou installing ubuntu and adding kde afterwards?06:45
n8k99and you can't get a getty up?06:45
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:45
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B-Minushey all06:45
Vulc4nhyper, I suppose I could try that, even when I did get ubuntu installed it did not seem to have a propper graphics driver06:46
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!06:46
Vulc4nas in I couldn't se the resolution/refresh rate06:46
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hypervulc4n: are there any proper graphics driver that you can isntall afterwards?06:46
dughynono it's no problem06:46
Vulc4nI have no idea06:46
Vulc4nand I'm not sureh ow06:46
hyperis this nvidia or ati?06:46
LjLhe was just asking whether *i* was italian06:46
Vulc4nthis is my first venture outside windows in years06:47
Vulc4nnvidia 7800 gt06:47
hyperthere is a howto about nvidia driver install06:47
hyperlemme find it on the forum06:47
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:47
apokryphosLjL: any idea what ports SIP wants to be forwarded?06:47
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LjLapokryphos: no, i don't know, but that's because SIP always worked for me without forwarding any port (and i *can't* forward ports anyway)... i think you need to specify a STUN server though, for that sort of thing to work06:48
apokryphosit says Symmetric NAT is supported, but not ideal06:49
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LjLapokryphos: oh, well, i don't know if it's not ideal. anyway, one standard port is 6081 i think, not even sure though06:49
hypervulc4n:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25592906:49
LjLapokryphos: that's really just the port *you* connect to, anyway06:50
Vulc4nokay... thanks for that.  I'm goign to give it a try and see what happens06:50
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Vulc4nsomeone mentioned al og file I coudl loo kat that might reveal what is happening06:51
hypergood luck :)06:51
Vulc4nknow what it is / how to access it?06:51
hypervulcan: probably syslog06:51
[Deathmaster] hi all, anyone of you using netscape ??06:51
LjLapokryphos: if it were for me, i'd just go with the NAT and see if it works well nuff06:51
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LjLhopefully, not06:51
hypervulcan: n8k99 also posted this:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:52
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LjLif only wengophone actually was a KDE app, i'd probably use it :\06:53
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[Deathmaster] ok another question i installed java 5 with ap-get and i aslo installed the plugin for mozilla but i have problems with web chats applets06:53
raul12 is wine aviable in 64bit  version06:53
n8k99vulc4n: / is you root filesystem -06:53
hypervulcan: actually there's another guide... I'm looking for it now06:54
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LjLwell actually i think i wouldn't use wengophone anyway, since it doesn't support multiple concurrently connected accounts06:54
n8k99vulc4n: i was going to say you can get to it from the command line with this command "cd /"06:54
n8k99vulc4n: when you log ino the getty, ctrl+alt+f1 or in the gui you use terminal06:55
raul12  is wine aviable in 64bit  version06:56
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raul12  is wine aviable in 64bit  version ????????????/07:06
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nebinadie habla espaol?07:06
fdovingraul12: check http://packages.ubuntu.com07:06
fdoving!es > nebi07:06
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hypervulcan, I can't find it anymore but I copied and pasted it into my "linux wiki" :)07:06
Lintsi!info kaffeine07:07
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ubotukaffeine: versatile media player for KDE 3. In component main, is optional. Version 0.7.1-1.3ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 1528 kB, installed size 3748 kB07:07
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hypervulc4n: I used that here: http://www.phpfi.com/16192707:08
felixjeti have a problem >.<07:08
felixjetthe sound dont works!07:08
felixjetit does yesterday but today it dont works and i dunno why07:08
felixjetany idea?07:09
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vulcaniumhyper: thanks07:11
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hypervulcan: good luck :)07:13
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Arlingtonanyone using slimserver07:13
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dennisterhi again07:14
vulcaniumthanks hyper... I'm on the latptop here so I can get some more guidane while Im trying it o nthe desktop07:15
dennisteranyone know azueus here? what to do about new .jar files?07:15
hypervulcan: are you now in the command shell?07:16
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n8k99felixjet: are you using edgy?07:16
GwenDragonI need some help with serois prob with SMP kernel07:17
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vulcaniumhyper: yep, I followed that guide you posted first.. it was the shortest07:17
TheGateKeeperLjL: this looks a little more promising: http://www.brunolinux.com/10-General_Info/VoIP_with_Kphone.html07:17
hyperwell, the one I posted on phpfi is the one I followed :)07:17
hyper<-- has a legacy driver card07:18
vulcaniumwell, its booting now, lets see if it did it07:18
VanessaEgot a question regarding edgy.... has anyone had a problem with Ctrl-Alt-Plus/Minus not working?07:18
dennisterk...i'm going away for a bit to remember how to do tar files..cya soon i'm sure07:18
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vulcaniumseems it may have worked07:18
VanessaE(trying to fix swanfl's machine still)07:18
hyperdennister: what is that suppost to do?07:18
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vulcaniumthank yo usooo much hyper07:18
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dennisterwhat is what supposed to do?07:18
LjLTheGateKeeper: ah, kphone supports video. thought not. (still, kphone is in a sad state right now... though i see development has been resumed by a new team)07:18
hyperdennister:  ctrl + alt + Plus/Minus07:19
hypervulcan: is it working?07:19
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Dr_willisHmm..  Ktorrent is showing me -2.24% done on this stalled torrent. :()  NO Peers no seeds,  LOL.07:19
dennisterhold on: serious probs now07:19
dennistergonna have to close down konversation07:19
VanessaE(works fine on my dapper box, his edgy setup is as correct as it can be...I'm figuring X is at fault but I can't find a single meaningful reference on google)07:20
hyperanyone knows how I can check whether someone is connected to my desktop through desktop sharing (I accept uninvited but have set a password)?07:20
vulcaniumhyper: yes, perfectly07:20
hypervulcanium: then I suggest you do what I did: I installed a wiki and everything something helps me I post it there... so that if I hve the problems later again, I just go there and get the solution again07:20
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TheGateKeeperLjL: well I was more along the lines of actually being able to get something working, it's inabilty to support video for me at least isn't really an issue07:21
TheGateKeeperthinking* more along the line07:21
LjLTheGateKeeper: yeah, i was just thinking loudly. but still, that article talks about strange things... like H323 (which is a *different* and alternative protocol to SIP) and firewalls...07:22
tdnI am using KDE but I do run some programs which uses GTK or something... These programs have a default font-size that is much larger than the one I like to have in KDE. (Screenshot of an example here: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/tmp/gtk_large_fonts.png) How do I set the font-size for these programs so that they look more like my KDE programs? Actually in the screenshot I am using Eclipse and the fonts are so big that I can not use it. I can not fit it all on my scr07:22
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n8k99tdn: System Settings> Appearance > GTK fonts07:23
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VanessaEtdn: there's a setting in KDE control Center for that: Appearance and Themes -> GTK...07:23
VanessaEum, thanks n8k :)07:23
trappisthyper: ?07:23
VanessaEor you can turn that ^^^^ feature off and use Gnome control center to configure the GTK fonts07:23
tdnn8k99, ok.07:24
hypertrappist:  how I can check whether someone is connected to my desktop through desktop sharing (I accept uninvited but have set a password)?07:24
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tdnVanessaE, why would I want to turn that feature off?07:24
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VanessaEtdn: under certain circumstances, it doesn't work properly.07:24
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VanessaEI don't remember what now, but I've seen it fail at least once.07:25
n8k99tdn: you can also download additional gtk-themes through adept07:25
tdnVanessaE, ok. Right now I really just need to get my Eclipse usable.07:25
TheGateKeeperEkiga has got h323 settings, but goodness knows what you are supposed to do, kphone looks like you could SIP working07:25
tdnn8k99, ok. Do you recommend any?07:25
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zorglu_tdn: i have one working, the only change i made was using sun java07:25
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n8k99tdn: i am using Sphere Crystal - it closely matchs my kwin style07:26
tdnzorglu_, this is really not the problem here... Although I would like to know how to install Sun Java JDK/JRE the "right way".07:26
tdnn8k99, ok. Thanks.07:26
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository07:26
felixjetn8k99 im using 6.06 dapper07:26
felixjetsorry i was afk07:27
zorglu_tdn: it is the steps i followed07:27
trappisthyper: dunno, I don't even know what protocol kde uses for desktop sharing07:27
tdnzorglu_, ok.07:27
hypertrappist: I use krdf or krfd or whatever it's called... it's included in kcontrol :)07:27
n8k99felixjet: check those out and see if any of them match your condition07:27
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n8k99tdn: this is my desktop now, with both kde and gtk apps open http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=3695&cat=307:29
felixjetn8k99 nope :( is not there07:29
felixjetthat bugs are from a distro update, i did a clean install from CD07:30
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n8k99felixjet: have you restarted your sound system?07:30
felixjetcan you tell me how plz?07:30
zorglu_n8k99: xgl needs a 3d background for the cube :) the 2d one appears 'weird'07:30
felixjeti just restarted the whole machine XD07:30
n8k99System Settings > Sound>07:30
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n8k99zorglu_: no mine is the big one with out the cube07:31
felixjeti deactivated / activated it07:31
felixjetstill no stound07:31
vulcaniumokay... now just to get my onboard audio working07:31
vulcaniumany guides for that?07:31
ubotuarts: sound system from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 5 kB, installed size 36 kB07:31
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tdnn8k99, ok. This is mine: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/tmp/kde-setup/07:32
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felixjetbtw, in system->sound->hardware->force dev location* can i force my system to play sounds with the secondary sound card?07:32
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n8k99tdn: very nice07:33
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n8k99felixjet: there is a howto in the forums for troubleshooting your sound07:34
vulcaniumawesome tdn.07:34
vulcaniumfelixjet: send me the link if you find it first07:34
felixjetwhich forums?07:34
felixjetk vulcanium XD07:35
fdovingthere is also07:35
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin07:35
tdnn8k99, thanks :)07:35
tdnvulcanium, thanks :)07:35
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ChetI'm trying to install WoW using wine and crossover, but the install craps out at cd change, and advice07:37
Chetany advice*07:37
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vulcaniumseems my onboard sound isn't being picked up at all07:43
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felixjetno sound :(07:46
felixjeti reinstalled alsa drivers07:46
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felixjetbut when i type aplay -l i get a list of the devices, but the sound dont works, and its at 100% volume, master,pcm, etc07:47
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felixjethow can i delete devices?07:48
felixjeti would like to uninstall the motherboard sound card and ethernet07:49
felixjetsince im using another cards (SB and realetk)07:49
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n8k99under sound in the system settings can you chose the hardware that you are using07:50
felixjetin the force location dev ?07:50
n8k99felixjet: yeah it seems like that would be the place where you can make that selection07:51
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felixjetand what about ethernet?07:52
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n8k99felixjet: that would be under networking in the system settings07:53
zorglu_!info kernel-headers-2.6.15-26-38607:53
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ubotuPackage kernel-headers-2.6.15-26-386 does not exist in any distro I know07:53
felixjetthe motherboard eth appears in all the modules, for example, with superkaramba i use a module to display eth traffic but it shows eth0 and im using eth1 to connect07:53
n8k99felixjet: hmmm....07:53
felixjetyes, in that menu appear the 2 eth devices but i cant uninstall from there07:53
felixjetjust configure/enable/disable07:53
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n8k99felixjet: but you can disable one07:53
felixjetbut i need my realtek on eth007:54
felixjetbut disable eth0 (motherboard) will not move the device to eth107:54
felixjeti need the realtek on eth007:54
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felixjetdo you understand me?07:54
felixjetmy english sucks heh07:54
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n8k99felixjet: no i understand you just fine , am thinking07:55
dennisterhow is everyone this fine Happy Plugin Day?!07:55
dennister'tis Thanksgiving in Toronto, btw :)07:55
ryanrI am looking at the output from a fdisk -l on 2 computers the one that is working properly has a * in the column for boot the one that is not booting properly does not have an * How significant is that?07:55
n8k99felixjet: what is the realtek?07:56
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felixjetthe realtek is the ethernet card i use07:58
felixjetlocated on eth107:58
felixjetand the motherboard ethernet card is on eth0. and i dont use it, its disabled07:58
felixjetbut i need the realtek card on eth007:58
dennisterisn't realtek the sound on the mobo?07:58
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dennisterfelixjet: it sounds like u have the same mobo as i do07:59
felixjetbecause some traffic analyzers only read eth0 and i cant setup them07:59
n8k99felixjet: right. there should be no real need to reassign the realtek to eth0 for it to operate , in fact i'm pretty certain that you can not do that as the motherboard ethernet comes first in the hardware stack07:59
dennisteri've disabled my eth1 207:59
B-Minus_does anyone know a good traffic analyzer ??07:59
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zorglu_B-Minus_: etherreal ?08:00
willianalguem do Brazil?08:00
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.08:00
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felixjetthen what can i do :(08:00
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felixjetthe superkaramba modules that analyzer traffic cant be setup, and they show info about eth008:01
felixjetand im using eth108:01
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n8k99felixjet: that i am not sure of at the moment - i dont use superkaramba so i haven't a clue08:02
dennisterbipolar? what a nic08:02
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dennisterr u seriously bipolar?08:02
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dennisterwelcome bipolar! i am 208:03
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dennister1 in a hundred08:03
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ryanrI am looking at the output from a fdisk -l on 2 computers the one that is working properly has a * in the column for boot the one that is not booting properly does not have an * How significant is that?08:03
dennisterryanr:  very serious08:04
dennisterthe * symbol tells you that it is bootable08:04
dennisterno * = no booting08:05
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n8k99felixjet can you change the default network traffic to "eth1"08:05
ryanrdennister. heres the fun part it is a dual boot XP and ubuntu it boots to ubuntu but not XP08:05
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dennisteryeah, real fun08:06
ryanrany thoughts about that?08:06
dennisterdoes it have a grub entry for xp?08:06
ryanrdennister it does08:06
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dennisterhmmm...mine just did it, without fooling windows or anything...but then again, xp is on 2nd separate drive08:07
dennisterhave u checked how some of the howtos for dualbooting?08:07
ryanrdennister would it matter that is it is on a sata drive08:08
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thygrrrCan I somehow tell KDE not to resume each and every application upon startup that was running before shutdown?08:08
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mariamcan anybody help me?08:08
dennisterryanr: no it shouldn't matter what kind of drive08:08
ryanrdennister I have but nothing seems to relate08:08
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dennister<-----too much of a noob to help, methinks08:09
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ryanrdennister thanks08:09
purpleposeidon....has anyone been having problems with ff randomly freezing up?08:09
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estelhi, where what is the name of the package of a pcl6 driver for cups?08:09
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age1172i have  a toshiba laptop with ati radeon mobility x1600 card ?08:10
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n8k99felixjet: which widget is the network traffic?08:11
age1172and i can't install the driver properly08:11
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age1172i tried to install the driver from ati site08:11
felixjetn8k99 SkSystemMonitor08:12
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felixjeton SuperKaramba08:12
age1172but it gave me error message at the end of the setup08:12
n8k99felixjet: yes on superkarmaba what's the widget's name?08:12
wildchilddoes apt have package for nvidia driveres?08:13
age1172and tried fglrx08:13
age1172my problem is that my opengl version is 1.208:15
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age1172and the graphics are slow08:15
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dennisterwildchild: yes, it does for nvidia08:16
age1172any help?08:16
wildchilddennister: maybe u know the name of the package08:16
rampage i have installed dchroot for 32bit packge installation but still unable to use opera 32bit installatioon08:16
rampage plz help08:16
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rampage how to install 32bit opera .deb file ????08:18
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dennistersorry wildchild: i don't know it off the top of my head08:19
rampage ok i have done it08:19
dennisterbut just do a search for nvidia...08:19
rampage i have installed it08:19
rampage walla YADooo08:19
rampage Yahooo08:19
dennisterread it carefully to see if it's right for ur card08:20
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yonkeltronwill there be shipit cds of edgy eft?08:20
dennisterthere's also a howto for nvida cards available on the main community support wiki08:20
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nvida - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:20
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:20
dennistersee that...it will help08:21
wildchild dennister: there is nvidia-glx package  binary driver..08:21
TheGateKeeperyonkeltron: would imagine so once it's released08:21
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yonkeltronTheGateKeeper: excellent08:21
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dennisterwildchild: it depends on ur card; i have a 7800 series card, so i used the nvidia-glx08:21
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dennisterplus a linux-headers, but that was a dependency, so it came automatically08:22
wildchildso I need to see nvida list first...08:22
wildchildI have fx 550008:22
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dennisterperhaps...what is ur card exactly wildchild?08:22
wildchildge force fx 550008:22
wildchild256MB of ram08:22
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dennisterk, that one might already be part of ubuntu08:23
dennisterfind out by going to system settings-> display (as root) and scrolling to see if ur card is there08:24
dennisteru may not have to download and install anything08:24
vulcaniumssomething happened :/08:24
dennister<-------has a newer card08:24
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ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport08:25
winst0nis there any possible way to  crunch an partiton which is twofish encrypted when i know 98% of the password??08:25
vulcaniumfor some reason I'm getting an error which says "usplash: no usable theme found for 640x480"08:25
vulcanium"screen init failed"08:25
dennisterwildchild: ? u still there?08:25
B-Minus_whats a command in shell to see all upload/download ?08:25
TheGateKeeperwildchild: lspci will give you hardware info08:26
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TheGateKeeperB-Minus_: you talking about wget ??08:27
wildchilddenniste: yes08:27
fdovingB-Minus_: iptraf, nload, bwm08:27
B-Minus_TheGateKeeper: no08:27
B-Minus_fdoving: tnx08:27
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fdovingB-Minus_: those are to view 'now', vnstat is for statistics over time. like 'how many mb last week/month/year' etc.08:28
dennisterwildchild: TheGateKeeper gave u a command: lspci, for more info on ur card08:28
dennisterjust type that command into shell08:28
B-Minus_fdoving: ok tnx that was what i needed08:28
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wildchildI'll pate bin08:30
dennisteri keep forgetting how to use pastebin...but TheGateKeeper is better at giving tech support than i08:31
dennister<------tries, but isn't that great yet08:31
wildchildHow can I stop installing package08:31
age1172i have  a toshiba laptop with ati radeon mobility x1600 card08:31
TheGateKeeperdennister: practise make perfect :-)08:31
wildchildI noticed that the wrong package is installing08:31
wildchildwell now is downloading it..08:31
TheGateKeeperwildchild: Ctrl + c08:32
age1172and i can't install the driver properly08:32
age1172 i tried to install the driver from ati site08:32
dennisteryes, Ctrl-C stops a lot08:32
wildchildmy NVIDIA08:32
age1172but it gave me error message at the end of the setup08:32
age1172and tried fglrx08:32
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TheGateKeeperwildchild: but if it's started installing let it install then uninstall08:32
age1172my problem is that my opengl version is 1.208:32
age1172and the graphics are slow08:33
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wildchildTheGateKeeper: It was downloadin the package..08:33
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wildchildand I stopped it08:33
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TheGateKeeperwildchild: GeForce FX 5500  <--- that is your video card08:34
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TheGateKeeperwildchild: just be carefull using Ctrl + c don't bork your install08:35
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wildchildTheGateKeeper: so I have to install nvidia-glx  list of cards http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/appendix-a.html08:35
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wildchildI am intending to install xgl08:36
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wildchildis there any guide for installin this on KUBUNTU08:36
wildchildor any how to08:36
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems08:36
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TheGateKeeperwildchild: yep ^^^08:37
TheGateKeeperwildchild: GeForce FX 5500 0x0326   <--- entry in the list08:38
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vulcaniumis there any particular reason that uname-r would return 'generic'08:39
vulcaniumwith the version number obviously08:39
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TheGateKeepervulcanium: I just get a version number, have a look at /boot/grub/menu.lst08:42
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vulcaniumokay... everything was fine until that last reboot08:45
vulcaniumx server is no longer starting08:45
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mini_gamer1896a quick question, how do i manually edit the repo's?08:46
MotorCityMadManhello: what prog. is recommended for web development environment for KDE for a beginner ?08:46
mini_gamer1896done it before, but can't remember08:46
TheGateKeepervulcanium: have a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:46
n8k99mini_gamer1896: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list08:46
mini_gamer1896k, thanks08:46
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TheGateKeepervulcanium: if that seems ok then when you do startx it should give you some indication of what it doesn't like08:47
Anders0has anyone installed Edgy Eft Beta with an ATI card?08:47
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Anders0I just get a black screen.. tried VGA, 1024 in 16 bit and 32 bit.. 1280 didnt help either08:48
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TheGateKeeperAnders0: try #ubuntu+108:49
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TheGateKeepermight have more luck there08:49
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vulcaniumAnders0 do you have a cursor?08:52
Anders0nope, nothing08:52
Anders0ctrl+alt+F2 dosnt help either, still a black screen08:52
vulcaniumwell, I don't really know what I'm doing myself08:52
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vulcaniumbut I fixed a similar problem today with some help here08:52
vulcaniumtry choosing the second option in grub08:52
vulcaniumand then follow this guide... http://www.phpfi.com/16192708:53
vulcaniumit worked for me08:53
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Anders0the one with "safe craphics" or whatever? dosnt work :)08:53
Anders0ill have no problem installing the drivers.. if i could just get a commandline08:53
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TheGateKeepervulcanium: Anders0 looks like the edge drivers are shit08:54
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TheGateKeeperAnders0: use a livecd and chroot in08:55
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Anders0I am using the livecd08:55
Anders0Im pretty sure i had the same problem with Dapper, had to use the Alternative cd08:55
TheGateKeeperAnders0: mount your / filesystem then & chroot08:55
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Anders0Edgy isnt installed yet, its the Desktop cd that dosnt work08:56
vulcaniumohh this is on the live cd?08:57
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vulcaniumI had the same issue08:57
vulcaniumget the alternate install cd08:57
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vulcaniumthen you will have to follow the guide I linked you to mostl ikely08:57
TheGateKeeperyep that has a text installer08:57
vulcaniummy sound still isn't working08:57
TheGateKeepernow you tell us :-)08:57
vulcaniumkmixer picks it up08:57
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin08:58
vulcaniumbut, I can't get anything out of the spdif out or the analog out08:58
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Anders0okay, i ended up doing the same thing last time.. never got KDevelop working, and screwed the system pretty much trying to install Xgl/Compiz :P08:58
vulcaniumwhy are some applications dependant on the shell you use?09:00
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nikolahello guys i need help blanking a cdrw09:01
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nikola i am getting the following error: Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied09:01
DaSkreechWhat are you doing?09:02
DaSkreech blanking it on the command line?09:02
nikolanope using k3b and gnomebaker same message09:02
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Arlingtonhow to change permissions for a file?09:05
LjLman chmod09:06
nabilhi everyone09:06
insanekanehi all09:06
LjLor rather, google chmod, since the man page is not incredibly helpful09:06
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insanekaneArlington: in GUI, right click and select Properties09:06
nabilcount me in..have installed kubuntu first time09:06
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insanekaneArlington: in CLI, use chmod ... e.g., chmod +x filebnaame to make it executable for you09:06
DaSkreechtried starting it with kdesu ?09:07
nabilanyone know how do i get 1280 X 800 resolution on my laptop09:07
insanekanenabil: the display resolution doesnt have that as an option ?09:07
LjLnabil: if you don't see it in System Settings, then a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" may be due09:07
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:07
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Arlingtonit said operation not alloved (translated from swedish.09:08
fdovingthen use sudo.09:08
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Arlingtonno change :-(09:09
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DaSkreechArlington: Who owns the file?09:10
wildchildduring downloading some package I press ctrl + t. Will this effect or harm my previous downloading09:10
Arlingtoni have this program called slimserver taht created a "subuser" called slimserver.09:11
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Arlingtonand when the program runs it needs acces to that file but can't acces it. i don't know how to get it to work09:11
DaSkreechArlington: Who owns the file?09:12
Arlingtonthat user called slimserver09:13
zorglu_ls -l yourfilename09:13
Arlingtonbut that is no user that is possible to logon with. i'am kind of lost because i don't know the difference with my account user (jonas) and that user called slimserver09:13
zorglu_the only case i see where root is unable to write a file is when write access is denied, can you paste here a ls -l thefilenameyouaretalkingabout09:15
DaSkreechArlington: when you ls -l the file there should be something like -r-x-rwx---09:15
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DaSkreechcan you paste that here?09:15
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Arlington-rwxr-xr-x 1 slimserver nogroup 5412 2006-10-09 11:07 slimserver.pref09:17
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wildchildhow do I set katapult09:17
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LjL"set" to what?09:17
DaSkreechArlington: ok good and what error are you getting?09:18
Arlingtonin my log file for the program it says 2006-10-09 21:12:48.5279 ERROR: Cannot write to preferences file /etc/slimserver.conf, any changes made will not be preserved for the next startup of the server09:18
zorglu_Arlington: "kdesu kate slimserver.pref" should be able to edit and modify this file09:18
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Arlingtonsorry wron entry.09:18
zorglu_ok forget my sentence :)09:19
zorglu_ls -ln slimserver.pref <- to get the groupe id09:19
DaSkreechMay I just note that simserver.conf != slimserver.pref ?09:19
LjLwildchild, what do you mean "how do i set katapult"?09:19
zorglu_maouaouaoua :)09:19
zorglu_indeed :) ok off im way to lame to help :)09:20
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Arlingtonaaah the problem is that slimserver.pref i  root- root how can  i delete a file through console?09:20
ArlingtonDaSkreech:  how can i delete a file through console?09:22
DaSkreechArlington: why are you deleting it?09:22
DaSkreechjust change the owner09:22
Arlingtonhow can i change the owner then?09:23
DaSkreechsudo chown <newowner> filename09:23
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ArlingtonDaSkreech: Access denied09:24
yetii'd like to set hotkeys for changing workspaces (Alt+F2 for second ws e.g.) but can't find the menu option where i can do so, can somebody help?09:24
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DaSkreechArlington: who are you logged in as now?09:28
DaSkreechtype whoami09:28
Arlingtonreturns jonas09:29
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tictric_yeti: I don't know where that's coded into but I wouldn't change that one. That one works across all *nixes and is somewhat of a standard.09:31
yetitictric_, so what is standard? i though alt+f(number) was, but it doesn't work here09:31
tictric_Even if you haven't got X it works on the console (but that's where it was introduced first of course)09:31
yetii'm NOT talking about non-X ttys/vcs here, i'm talking about X, and alt-f2/f3 etc does NOT work09:32
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zorglu_yeti: kmenu -> system setting -> regional + accessibility -> keyboard shortcut09:32
tictric_yeti: ah, sorry. CTRL-F! bla bla09:32
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tictric_yeti: ah, sorry. CTRL-F1 bla bla09:32
yetizorglu_, tictric_, thanks09:32
zorglu_yeti: not that they are already bound to other actions. personnally i use 'window key' -> f1 f2 etc.. to switch desktop09:33
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heidiIn file does kde store its info for restore session? I tried starting beryl-manager from cmdline and it crashes and now running startx x crsahes because kde want to recover my beryl-manger process how do I stop it from that?09:33
heidiIn which file ...09:34
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zorglu_heidi: tried to look at /etc/X11/default-display-manager09:34
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ArlingtonDaSkreech: ?09:35
intelikey(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)09:35
intelikeywhy am i getting this error ?09:35
DaSkreechArlington: sorry09:35
heidizorglu_: I just want to stop kde from restooriing last sessionan all will be fine09:35
DaSkreechThat is your main user?09:36
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zorglu_heidi: another possibility i see is using the kdm menu, you can choose the session. i dunno where kde store this particular info... maybe in ~/.kde somewhere09:36
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heidiI cant start x09:37
heidiI am in comd line09:37
ArlingtonDaSkreech: means you don't know or?09:37
heidiX crashes because it want to restore old session in which i called veryl-manger09:37
zorglu_heidi: not even kdm ? the "graphical login" stuff ?09:37
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heidiI start X using startx09:37
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heidiBut this doent help now because it want to restore old session09:38
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DaSkreechArlington: Who was your first user?09:38
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DaSkreechheidi: XGL?09:38
heidiI mean I had normal X running using startx the i ran beryl-manager from konsole09:38
dennisterI am getting so sick of this...fix one prob, fix creates anotehr problem, fix to that causes another...09:38
dennisterre-starting kde pps. bbs09:39
heidiAnd now it X crashes when kde starts loafding previous session09:39
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Arlingtonhow do u mean. my only user is this one called jonas09:39
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heidiSo all I need to know is how to stop restorring old kde session09:39
DaSkreechArlington: Ok good That's what I wanted to know :)09:40
ArlingtonDaSkreech: soo...09:40
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DaSkreechand sudo chown slimserver /path/to/file gives access denied?09:40
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ArlingtonDaSkreech: yes09:41
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DaSkreechIs the slimserver running?09:42
DaSkreechStop it09:42
Arlingtonhow do i do that :-S09:42
DaSkreechI don't know you started it :)09:43
Arlingtonit's a .sh file...09:43
DaSkreechWhere is it?09:43
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Arlington.pl file it is...09:44
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DaSkreechAh perl :)09:44
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tony_hello everyone.. can i intall LILO bootloader09:45
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DaSkreechsudo apt-get install lilo09:46
tony_would that override my grub withouth problme with windows partition ?09:46
Dragonball26hallo an alle kann mir jemand sagen wie ich unter kubuntu eine partition einrichten kann um windows zu installieren?09:47
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ubotulilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.09:47
tony_i guess i stay with grub :(09:47
DaSkreechArlington: It runs with no parameters?09:47
n8k99Dragonball: !de09:48
ArlingtonDaSkreech:  i have this start script.,..09:48
n8k99yikes didnt work09:48
notechwhy is it recommended to use grub? just personal preference of whoever put the definition in the bot?09:48
DaSkreechArlington: Is there a stop script?09:48
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DaSkreechn8k99: Like this09:49
DaSkreech !de > Dragonball2609:49
Arlingtonprobably. some where.09:49
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DaSkreechSee if you can find one. After the server is stopped you will likely be given access to the file09:49
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Arlingtonokay :-)09:50
zorglu_notech: i would say that grub is the defacto standard. so it is likely better to use grub to get support09:50
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notechzorglu_: standard?09:50
notechyou mean kubuntu chose grub so that's considered standard?09:50
zorglu_LjL: :)09:51
LjLnotech: i think most distributions are using grub these days09:51
zorglu_notech: no i mean because grub is a lot more used than lilo09:51
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notechi only run one other distro and it uses lilo, dunno about others09:51
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Arlingtoni know have access but using "sudo chown <newowner> filename" dosn't make any difference.09:52
t0taln00bslackware based distros still use lilo09:52
zorglu_notech: i know suse and fedora uses grub09:52
zorglu_notech: which distro do you use which is based on lilo09:52
notechsounds like slackware and mandriva use lilo09:52
t0taln00bmandriva uses grub09:52
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notechdefault in mandriva is lilo09:53
t0taln00byeah u can pick :)09:53
notechgrub is an option though09:53
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t0taln00bzenwalk uses lilo09:53
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age1172how to enable direct rendering?09:54
notechthanks, was just curious why grub was recommended on kubuntu09:54
zorglu_age1172: install a video driver supporting it09:54
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age1172i've installed a game09:54
t0taln00band as i mentioned earlier slack based distros use lilo09:54
vulcaniumdamn this audio problem is pissing me off09:54
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xxxahoj je tu nejakej cech ?09:54
LjLnotech: i think it's mostly just because it's the default, and hence tested by more people, and more people know how it works. not to mention that it's got more features, even though it *may* also be more confusing09:54
age1172and it says enable direct rendering09:54
ubotuesk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.09:55
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age1172my graphics are very slow09:55
zorglu_glxinfo | grep rendering <- to know if you have it or not age117209:55
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vulcaniumI cannot seem to get any sort of auio output at all09:55
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age1172it says no09:56
age1172my card is ati radeon mobility x160009:56
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:56
zorglu_age1172: install those drivers and it should be ok09:56
age1172thanks i will try09:57
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dennisteri can't believe i've actually got this working09:57
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dennisteroops...forgot to configure it properly...brb09:58
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dennisterhmmm; it seems to have kept old settings :-)10:00
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vulcaniumsound now too10:01
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vulcaniumbut its still funky10:01
dennisterit's such a pain to set azureus's settings10:01
vulcaniumno spdif out10:01
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vulcaniumand the only analog output is coming out of the wrong port10:01
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pplukubuntu para espaoles?10:02
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.10:02
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dennisterif anyone wants a dragndrop filesharing prog, azureus does work, but it;s a pain10:02
dennisterhi LeeJunFan10:02
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LeeJunFandennister: hello10:03
dennisterpps will be in good hands now10:03
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dennister<-----is doing ok for a change10:04
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Lozmirnabedn! mein kubuntu erkennt noch meine digikam die ber usb als mass storage erkannt wird mountet diese aber nicht mehr automatisch wie gestern noch. was kann ich tun?10:04
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lspci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:04
Lozmirsry wrong channel10:05
dennisterit's just that no one seems to want the mp3's i have available :(10:05
dennister<--kicks herself10:05
dennisteri forget to make them torrent files! lol10:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jingle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:06
dennisterhi n8k9910:06
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n8k99hi dennister10:06
n8k99how's it going dennister10:07
dennisteri finally got my azureus upgraded :)10:08
dennisterthe one on the packer lists is way too old10:08
age1172zorglu_: how can i identify video card's bus identifier correctly10:08
age1172my card is pci express 16 x10:08
zorglu_age1172: lspci will give you the content of the pci bus, find your video card in it10:09
zorglu_0000:01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M <- 01:05 for me10:09
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vulcaniumwith nvmixer10:10
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age1172zorglu_:it says 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 71c10:12
dennisterbut dang it if that popup applet won't go away again!10:12
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dennisterat one point it was finally going away nicely10:12
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bLaZeDhas anyone had problems with a few repos....i had to take out the opera plf and umm..there was one more.....i hope its not just me.....10:12
zorglu_age1172: so it is 1.0 :)10:12
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dennisterbLaZeD: some of the repos r out of date10:14
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Arlingtonhow to change the group preferences of a file? like chown10:14
zorglu_if you want the bleeding edge, you can use edgy10:14
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zorglu_Arlington: use 'chgrp'10:15
bLaZeDdennister, whats the best thing to do?...just comment out the ones that arnt working atm and use the ones that are?10:15
age1172but why it is unknown10:15
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dennisterI'm going to try and wean myself off the packagers...download newest apps in tar format10:15
age1172willthis affect anything10:15
zorglu_age1172: dunno10:15
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zorglu_age1172: what is important is the driver, not the lspci display10:15
dennisteri don't know...the packagers usually take care of dependencies...but apparently aptitude does that better10:16
zorglu_dennister: if you do that, dont forget to mention it while getting help, as it may affects greatly the system10:16
dennisteranyone? does aptitude also use the same repositories as the packagers?10:16
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zorglu_what is the 'packagers'10:17
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dennisterzorglu_: ok, i will10:17
Hawkwinddennister: Probably not a good idea.  If you want to compile everything then you probably shouldn't run a .deb or .rpm based distro10:17
zorglu_all the programmes downloading package automatically use the list in /etc/apt/sources.list10:17
dennisterthe packagers are adept, apt, synamptic...10:17
age1172then what i should write as a card bus identifier?10:17
Hawkwinddennister: That will certainly cause great issues, especially when trying to update your system and many other things10:17
Hawkwinddennister: Why not just learn to use apt-get from the CLI.  It's not that hard and it works better than most of the GUI package managers10:18
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dennisterso what's the alternative? download an app, after much headache find out its old, then remove and download newer one?10:18
age1172or something else10:18
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dennisterlike i just did with azureus?10:18
Hawkwinddennister: Stick with pre-built packages for the distro as much as possible.  Azureus is a p2p app which most will give you great issues trying to install or get working correctly10:19
age1172zorglu_: then what i should write as a card bus identifier?10:19
Hawkwinddennister: If you're just doing torrents, then why not use something like ktorrent or bittorrent10:20
zorglu_dennister: if you want to have the 'newest apps' you can use edgy. or a more bleeding edge distribution10:20
age1172AGP:01:00.0 or something else10:20
dennisterHawkwind: i will learn it, or better yet, aptitude, but that doesn't solve the probs of the repositories having out-of-date apps10:20
zorglu_age1172: i dunno... i dont use those drivers10:20
Hawkwinddennister: What's out of date that you need so badly ?10:20
zorglu_dennister: it is not 'out of date' it is 'stable'10:20
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ErtainDoes anyone know a search program that can find duplicates of files in a directory?  Even if the files have different names?10:20
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dennisterHawkwind: i needed a drag n/drop fileshare10:21
Hawkwinddennister: If you want the latest and greatest, which isn't always the best, then run the development version of Ubuntu, which is currently Edgy10:21
zorglu_dennister: 'brand new' may seems cool but it mean 'unstable' too :)10:21
Hawkwinddennister: What's wrong with ktorrent ?10:21
dennisteraureus was something i'm familiar with...10:21
VanessaEetrain: try diff10:21
Hawkwinddennister: So learn other things and don't limit yourself10:21
dennisterktorrent doesn't do drag n drop from stuff you've found on google10:21
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dennisterand even frostwire that i downloaded couldn't find the downloads i wanted10:22
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VanessaEnot exactly what you want but it's a start if you suspect certain files to be dupes.10:22
VanessaEopera has a decent torrent client in it..10:22
bLaZeDdennister, i use azureus and it works very good10:22
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bLaZeDdennister, u will need to install the java5-sun-bin package..then configure ubuntu to use that version of java10:23
dennisterbLaZeD: yes it does, i used for for a long time in windows, and even their 'newest & greatest" is stable10:23
Hawkwinddennister: Azureus is just a pain to compile, and a very memory intensive program.  What's so important about drag n drop ?10:23
bLaZeDthen just dl the latest version of azureus and unpack it.....10:23
dennisterotherwise i do tend to stick with the stable stuff...10:23
dennisterdrag n drop is important because you can find stuff u need in google that you can't find through the searching in non drag n drop file share apps like ktorrent and frostwire10:24
Hawkwinddennister: It's fine to compile azureus, but I wouldn't get in the habit of compiling anything and everything.  Unless you really know how to maintain a Linux system10:24
bLaZeDHawkwind, i feel him on that he wants to use azureus...ive come quite fond it as well....and well...i got 2 gigs ram so i dont care how much mem it uses :P10:24
Hawkwinddennister: What can you find on google that you can't find in other places ?10:24
dennisterHawkwind: i HATE compiling stuff...if i could avoid it i would10:25
dennisterhere's my problem: this is a home theatre pc10:25
HawkwindbLaZeD: I'm not saying not to use it.  She mentioned that she was going to stop using apt, aptitude, synaptic and adept.  That leaves compiling10:25
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bLaZeDcompile azureus....i dled it and thats it...ii dont think u compile it10:25
dennisteri worked like a dog for 3 days to try and get the ivtv drivers going, and nada10:25
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bLaZeDlol well thats not a good idea....if u want that use slack or freebsd or even gentoo :/10:26
dennisterso i'm thinking: why not just download the tv shows i'm missing, and possibly do without cable tv10:26
dennister??? hence my filesharing app adventures10:27
Hawkwinddennister: You can do that with ktorrent.  I download movies/tv shows all day long.  I surely don't use google for it since google doesn't have near the illegal stuff that torrent sites have10:27
Hawkwinddennister: FYI....I download 20+ movies every single day, 7 days a week.  Get people to invite you to private torrent sites that have anything and everything you would ever need10:27
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bLaZeDyea googling for torrents....thats gotta be a pain in the arse10:27
zorglu_couch couch no need to talk abotu illegal activity here10:28
dennistergreat Hawkwind can u show me how? I tried ktorrent first10:28
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bLaZeDare tv show illegal to dl?10:28
vulcaniumis there a sound card which works partiularly well in linux?10:28
dennisterzorglu_: i'm paying for cable and not able to use it10:28
bLaZeDu can tivo them and its legal right?10:28
vulcaniumI'm not making much progress with this onboard audio10:28
Hawkwinddennister: You simply click on a file and tell it to download in ktorrent. It's that simple10:28
HawkwindbLaZeD: If it's shared, then it's illegal10:29
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dennisteryes, its legal for ur own personal use10:29
zorglu_all that depends on how the content is licenced10:29
zorglu_and the law of where you live10:29
zorglu_but hardly on kubuntu support :)10:29
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bLaZeDHawkwind, i mean i miss a show..so i go dl it and watch it....keep it for a week(dont upload a single part of it) then delete it...would that break the law......and if it does that sucks ;D10:30
gksudoHello, does anyone know a good KDE alternative to Ekiga (formerly "GnomeMeeting")?10:30
dennisterHawkwind: thank u! :) I'll try that next time10:30
dennisterwho wants to google constantly anyway?10:30
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HawkwindbLaZeD: That's illegal.  It's being shared10:30
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bLaZeDHawkwind, k gota ya10:31
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:31
zorglu_Hawkwind: only if the licensed prevent this form of sharing...10:31
Hawkwindzorglu_: Wrong.  It's illegal period.  You can *not* tivo a tv show, upload it to somewhere and have others download it.  It's against the law, period10:32
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fdovingdepends where you live.10:32
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fdovinghas nothing to do with kubuntu support anyway.10:32
DaSkreechcan someone try out this stream?10:33
HawkwindTrue, I'm taking for granted we are talking about the USA since bLaZeD and I both live in the USA10:33
zorglu_Hawkwind: well not if the license allows it...10:33
DinoflyDaSkreech: works for me10:33
zorglu_but ok on this offtopic, here10:33
DaSkreechDag nab it10:33
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fdovingwhile we're at the offtopic stuff, google buys youtube :)10:34
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zorglu_DaSkreech: i got it, 'classical station'10:34
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DaSkreechWhy can't I get it to work :-(10:34
zorglu_hey i guess youtube was not that bad :)10:34
zorglu_now only google video remains :) no competitor :)10:34
ArlingtonDaSkreech: the problem remains. the bloody server can't write to the file although i changed the file owner10:34
ubuntu_i changed my destop resolution and cannot restart ..how do i recover my first setting and avoid reinstallation of kubuntu10:34
ubuntu_can someone help10:35
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zorglu_DaSkreech: dunno10:35
VanessaEquestion....  Is it a known issue that in edgy, Ctrl+Alt+Plus/Minus doesn't work?  (Guessing X itself is at fault?)10:35