[12:09] mjg59, you rock! [12:09] (but of course you already knew that) [12:11] <_ion> mjg59: Have you had time to review my usplash patch? (There's no hurry, i'm just interested.) [12:11] _ion: It's committed [12:12] <_ion> Ok, thanks. === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D8782.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shawarma is now known as shawarma_away === Gman [i=gman@nat/sun/x-296fe4c42b5e9867] has joined #ubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === iwj [n=ian@xenophobe.extern.relativity.greenend.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:03] c === CarlFK [n=carl@c-24-13-53-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === theCore [n=alex@modemcable134.202-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D8782.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TomB| [n=ownthebo@host217-44-6-189.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-devel === human_blip [n=mike@220.157.65.29] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D8782.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D8782.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth_ [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-088-064-171-031.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@221.221.163.229] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sid [n=unstable@glitchinthe.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:10] Is there an ubuntu-legal mailing list like there is a debian-legal mailing list/ [03:10] No [03:12] mjg59: Is there a website specific to ubuntu about legal stuff? Like copyright law[dmca(the european version too)] / software idea patents / trademark law(firefox)? [03:13] Does Ubuntu use SPI like debian does? Or do you guys have your own laywer? [03:16] sid: No idea, I'm afraid. I'd assume that Canonical have someone on the legal side of things. [03:18] we follow the DFSG, mostly [03:18] a few exceptions [03:19] firefox might end up being one of them === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:22] Is there a marillat _like_ mirror for Ubuntu?(I know marillat doesn't do Ubuntu); Like a european only version of Ubuntu.(a version where software idea patents don't apply). [03:22] ie, not a mangled mplayer with stuff ripped out because of american patent law [03:23] there are a few things in plf [03:23] not that interesting to us, YMMV etc [03:24] hmm, I can't seem to connect; the google cache will have to do. [03:25] thanks a lot for the information tseng and mjg59; I appreciate it. [03:25] "The PLF Ubuntu project is shutting down, due to lack of time of its maintainers. New volonteers are welcome." [03:26] Guess that's why I couldn't connect. === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === specialK|laptop [n=Kevin@216.75.63.166] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@221.221.153.175] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === truz_`24 [n=truz_`24@74.129.166.232] has joined #ubuntu-devel === orkid__ [n=orkid__@bas1-barrie18-1242377856.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.228.144] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jinty [n=jinty@205.Red-83-56-149.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.64.118] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:52] morning guys [05:53] hey fabbione [05:53] yo [05:54] hey fabbione [05:54] hey aj [05:54] hey fabbione [05:55] ajmitch: i should be able to start the buildd tomorrow. my wife will go away a couple of days and i can move out of the office to work (noise mainly) and she won't complain about an airplane or two turned on in the house [05:55] hi zul [05:55] fabbione: great, I've got procmail setup for it [05:56] ok === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Xof [n=mas01cr@158.223.59.22] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.12.182.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:37] night [06:38] night zul === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stu1 [n=stub@ppp-58.8.7.54.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nictuku [n=yves@ubuntu/member/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:27] ajmitch: who can i contact in the MOTU team to do some batch job? [07:28] ajmitch: there are a bunch of xfonts that need a rebuild [07:28] I can do that if you want [07:28] ajmitch: ok.. see bug #52803 [07:28] Malone bug 52803 in gsfonts-x11 "insufficient dependency on xfonts-utils" [High,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/52803 [07:28] read it all to the bottom [07:29] i already uploaded a new debhelper that sets the proper version Depends: on xfonts-utils [07:29] it will take about 2/3 hours to propagate in the archive [07:29] ok [07:29] what i would like you to do is to prepare all the fonts in universe for upload [07:30] IF the package does not have an ubuntuX extension, make it buildX [07:30] so that it can be resynced automatically for edgy+1 [07:30] yes, I've got tools to do all that if I hand it a list of packages [07:30] without MOTU having to redo the merge manually === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:31] ok.. also.. make sure that the package actually needs the rebuild and that it uses dh_installxfonts in debian/rules + misc:Depends in debian/control [07:31] i am taking care of main [07:31] ok, I'll start downloading them [07:32] ok [07:32] there is no need to add a versioned B-D on debhelper.. just wait that it hits the archive before uploading [07:32] less delta > * === highvolt1ge [n=jono@196.1.61.13] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:33] ajmitch: you want a changelog similar to: [07:33] culmus (0.101-6build1) edgy; urgency=low [07:33] [07:33] * Rebuild with new debhelper to set versioned Depends: on xfonts-utils. [07:33] This change can/should be dropped automatically in edgy+1 syncs. [07:33] (Closes Ubuntu #52803) [07:33] there don't seem to be too many xfonts-* source packages in universe [07:33] thanks [07:33] ajmitch: no, there aren't many [07:34] but they still need that version Depends: [07:34] otherwise it can breaks upgrade from dapper to edgy [07:39] ajmitch: there are some packages that add a Depends: xfonts-utils manually without calling dh_installxfonts. You want to add the versioned Depends manually [07:40] 30 packages to check over, won't take long :) [07:40] xfonts-100dpi (1:1.0.0-2ubuntu1) edgy; urgency=low [07:40] * Set versioned Depends on xfonts-utils. [07:40] (Closes Ubuntu #52803) [07:40] yeah [07:41] this is the changelog i am using for the manual ones [07:41] note that it's a manual delta -> ubuntu1 [07:41] ok, noted [07:41] perfect [07:41] are you also checking multiverse? [07:41] i noticed 1/2 fonts there too [07:41] I'll check that too [07:41] ok perfect [07:42] I've got a list of all the source packages that build an xfonts-* binary [07:42] I'll check it against those that depend on xfonts-utils [07:44] ajmitch: it's easier if you check apt-cache rdepends xfonts-utils [07:44] not all of them are called xfonts- [07:44] you will pull in a bit more junk, but you will catch them all === specialK|laptop [n=Kevin@216.75.63.166] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Spads [n=spacehob@host-84-9-51-159.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zdra [n=zdra@182.246-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Norgz [n=eroux@maisel-gw.enst-bretagne.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === funman [n=fun@AToulouse-157-1-146-157.w86-221.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cain_ [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=sebi@ppp-88-217-2-173.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cain_ [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-devel === basanta [n=basanta@202.79.37.177] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:24] Good morning! [08:25] hey pitti [08:25] morning pitti and fabbione === pitti hugs fabbione [08:31] morning, pitti [08:31] hey pitti [08:31] hi tfheen [08:33] hey Hobbsee [08:33] moin tfheen [08:33] hi highvoltage [08:35] 'morning, Hobbsee [08:35] :) === marilize [n=marilize@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B2173.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:54] good morning [08:54] morning daniel [08:54] hey dh [08:55] hey fmdn === specialK|laptop [n=Kevin@216.75.63.166] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] === nenotnom [n=christof@81-225-188-103-o285.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dous [n=dous@ubuntu/member/dous] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@61.190.64.118] has joined #ubuntu-devel === giftnudel [n=mb@p54A92706.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shawarma_away is now known as shawarma === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === basanta [n=basanta@202.79.37.177] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thekorn [n=markus@a81-14-185-75.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thekorn [n=markus@a81-14-185-75.net-htp.de] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === giftnudel [n=mb@p54A92706.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:37] hi giftnudel [09:37] hi pitti === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-devel === giftnudel [n=mb@p54A92706.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:48] ajmitch: new debhelper is published.. we are good to go with the uploads [09:48] great, I'll get onto it now [09:52] there.. main is done === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@221.221.153.175] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zdra [n=zdra@di-net.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo [n=egon@p54A672BB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jono [n=jono@88-107-1-169.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:59] mvo: could I have a GnomeAppInstallDesktopDatabaseUpdate today, please? === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:02] tfheen: sure. the last is from 5. oct === malcc [n=malcolm@host86-135-237-55.range86-135.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:03] mvo: sure, but I'd like to have one from now, since we're getting close to the freeze. [10:04] tfheen: freeze is thursday? === ScottK2 [n=kitterma@static-72-81-252-22.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:07] ajmitch: correct. [10:08] thanks for fixing the casper issues with mono [10:08] np === ajmitch has a small pile of upstream patches against f-spot to grab 7 test === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Keybuk [n=scott@syndicate.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:16] seb128: ping? [10:17] Keybuk: pong [10:17] seb128: evolution is still doing the "folder-display|..." thing [10:17] Keybuk: yeah, we have a language-pack update once by century or something like that :p [10:18] ahh, it's waiting on those? [10:18] it's a translation issue and fixed to launchpad for weeks so probably [10:18] we had the last one for beta, I plan another one for RC [10:18] seb128: ^ if that's fine with you? [10:18] yep [10:18] dholbach, ping [10:19] though I would prefer weekly translations updates next cycle [10:19] ogra: pong [10:19] Keybuk: speaking of broken langpacks, can you please nudge the dapper ones into proposed? [10:19] seb128: I have no problem with weekly [10:19] dholbach, human-cursors-theme doesnt contain the thzeme file, is that intentional ? [10:19] pitti: if I can get around to it today, I will [10:19] Keybuk: if you find the time can you get the libgalago3 binary out of new, please? [10:19] 2-3 updates in 6 months is no fun [10:19] ogra: it's in human-theme, yes [10:19] dholbach: again, only if I can get around to it today [10:19] Keybuk: *hug*, thanks [10:19] dholbach, why ? [10:19] see #canonical [10:20] seb128: yeah, but the initial delay was due to Rosetta export; I hope we won't have that again for edgy+1 === freet15_ [n=freet15@221.221.159.61] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:20] pitti: right [10:20] dholbach, that forces me to install human-theme in the thin client chroot .. couldnt it move to the cursors package ? [10:20] since i only need the cursors for ldm [10:20] Keybuk: Ok - thanks. [10:22] ogra: i need to think about it - when I did it, it was for a reason === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.28.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-40-58.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === geser [n=michael@dialin110158.justdsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === giftnudel [n=mb@p54A92706.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:26] doko_: ping [10:26] or maybe seb128 [10:27] python-gnome2 conflicts and provides python2.4-gnome2 [10:27] but doesn't replaces it [10:27] dholbach, ok [10:28] fabbione: it seems like something blew up in the sparc world over the weekend; http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/testing/edgy_probs.html ; can you investigate? [10:28] Keybuk: I'll fix that [10:28] tfheen: looking [10:29] COW! [10:29] seb128: this is your fault [10:29] seb128: something in desktopland didn't build [10:30] seb128: same with things like cairo, pyorbit, etc. === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:30] fabbione: libgnomeui apparently [10:30] Keybuk: python* then? [10:31] Keybuk: that's a dh_ something bug? should maintainers do that by hand or that should be done automatically with the new policy? [10:31] seb128: did you batch upload without proper versioned B-D ? [10:31] fabbione: no [10:31] hmmmm [10:31] libbonoboui2-dev: Depends: libbonoboui2-0 (= 2.16.0-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed [10:31] libgnome2-dev: Depends: libgnome2-0 (= 2.16.0-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed [10:31] libgnomevfs2-dev: Depends: libgnomevfs2-0 (= 2.16.1-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed [10:32] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [10:32] libbonoboui2-dev: Depends: libbonoboui2-0 (= 2.16.0-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed [10:32] libgnome2-dev: Depends: libgnome2-0 (= 2.16.0-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed [10:32] libgnomevfs2-dev: Depends: libgnomevfs2-0 (= 2.16.1-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed [10:32] E: Broken packages [10:32] hum [10:32] seb128: I've no idea [10:32] that one :) [10:32] fabbione: that looks like a "arch all/any out of sync" [10:32] maybe a retry would be enough [10:32] tfheen: can you give back libgnomeui on sparc please? [10:33] seb128: yeah checking here locally too [10:33] fabbione: the 3 "not going to be installed" packages have built correctly [10:34] fabbione: retry should be fine [10:34] seb128: yup [10:34] fabbione: done === freet15_ is now known as freet15 [10:34] tfheen: thanks [10:35] could someone please giveback gnustep-gui? [10:36] geser: done [10:38] tfheen: thanks [10:38] Keybuk: python-cairo and python-pyorbit seem to have a proper Replaces in fact [10:39] pitti: do you happen to know if anybody's working on a MIR for kexec-tools? [10:39] tfheen: not to my knowledge [10:40] I'll have to get BenC to do that, then. === Tonio__ [n=tonio@6.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:46] morning! === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:50] seb128: ok, I guess they depend on the python-gnome2 ? [10:50] Keybuk: no, they are lower in the stack [10:50] odd [10:51] why? [10:51] did you get some upgrade issues with them? === RicardoPerez [n=A@84-122-157-132.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:53] Kamion: could you please enable your cronjobs on drescher? [10:54] Kamion: http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/testing/edgy_probs.html is severly out of date. [10:54] seb128: yeah [10:54] I foolishly didn't write it down though [10:54] (upgrading my desktop today) === basanta [n=basanta@202.79.37.177] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:58] morning [10:58] tfheen: they aren't disabled ... [10:58] morning Kamion [10:58] I think it's stuck somewhere, checking local mail [10:59] Kamion: did you get much chance on Friday to do archive-bitch stuff? === Znarl [n=karl@bb-82-108-14-161.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:59] Keybuk: a little, but not a lot [10:59] Kamion: if you get a chance, could you do some today? === Keybuk is awaiting for andreas to arrive [11:00] ok [11:00] tfheen: I've kicked it; not sure if it'll stay kicked though [11:01] Kamion: hmkay and thanks a lot [11:01] oh [11:01] dapper upgrade [11:01] ImportError: libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5.so.3.9: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [11:02] that'd explain things [11:03] ok, fixed properly now === mvo [n=egon@p54A672BB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:06] mvo: thanks for the test in hubackup, it will serve as a nice starting point for testing the other modules :-) [11:07] sivang: cheers! [11:10] Keybuk: is there an lrm upload stuck in NEW? [11:10] Kamion: Hi - Keybuk wasn't sure if he would get around to it today, but it'd be very cool to get libgalago3 binary package out of new, so I could start rebuilding the redepends. [11:13] Kamion: sorry to bother, but when you have time, could you please look at bug #63693? i just need a quick look from you [11:13] Malone bug 63693 in initramfs-tools "dapper -> edgy dist-upgrade prompts for questions" [High,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/63693 [11:16] does anyone know what package installs /etc/default/locale? === shawarma is now known as shawarma_away [11:16] mvo: probably belocs-locale-bin [11:17] fabbione: I don't have it on my upgraded systems, only on new installs. and apparently it overwrite the settings in /etc/environment [11:17] belocs-locales-bin.postinst:EE="/etc/default/locale" [11:17] fabbione: thanks === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:20] mvo: we also need to look at that bug... i just need to finish one thing here [11:20] fabbione: at the apt bug for the upgrades? [11:21] yeah === heno [n=henrik@ti200720a080-5542.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Spads [n=spacehob@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:28] mvo: it's created by localechooser [11:28] yes, it's intended to be used in preference to /etc/environment if possible, AFAIK; it was a Debian change [11:29] dholbach: done === tfheen kicks busybox in the nuts. [11:30] Kamion: you ROCK! :-) [11:30] Kamion: ok, thanks. I need to change language-selector to take this into account then === shawarma_away is now known as shawarma [11:30] fabbione: checking [11:31] Kamion: thx === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.7.54.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:33] Kamion: so, busybox's md5sum complains about mismatches if there's a blank line in the input. [11:33] Kamion: should we fix that by fixing it to work correctly or fix cdrom-checker to DTRT or both? [11:33] fabbione: oh, how was the install done? d-i or ubiquity? [11:34] tfheen: why is there a blank line in its input? [11:34] Kamion: d-i (netinstall bitch ;)) [11:34] Kamion: because cdrom-checker does fgets(line, sizeof(line), fd), and then gives that to a system call. [11:34] (without stripping off the \n) [11:35] actually, it gives it to an echo | md5sum -c call [11:35] see main.c:131 and five or so more lines [11:36] oh, I see [11:36] stripping the newline is trivial, but busybox shouldn't complain when it's given one valid and one empty line, IMO [11:36] probably do both fixes [11:37] fabbione: replied [11:37] Kamion: thanks [11:38] fabbione: ... and updated with another possibility [11:38] Kamion: reading [11:39] tfheen, dholbach: -> Kamion [11:39] Kamion: the strange thing is that it happens on fresh-install.. i mean i can see RESUME=/dev/hda5 on dapper fresh install [11:39] Keybuk: hm? [11:39] ask Kamion for archive stuff today [11:40] Keybuk: I already did - thanks. [11:40] Kamion: the only code that can change that is not nowhere in initramfs.. so i can only assume something in d-i was mangling it [11:40] Keybuk: Have a nice day. [11:40] :-) [11:40] fabbione: ok, it wasn't clear to me that you'd checked the conffile before attempting to upgrade [11:40] Kamion: ok.. yes i did check [11:40] see the diff on top [11:40] Keybuk: 'k [11:40] fabbione: yes, but that diff is generated after the new preinst runs [11:40] Kamion: is there an lrm stuck in NEW? [11:41] or, was there? [11:41] tfheen: not AFAIK [11:41] Kamion: right.. but i did check it.. yes === kent [n=kent@82.145.136.38] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:41] I'll see if I can test it out here and isolate it [11:42] if you want i can reinstall here and triple-verify [11:42] ok [11:43] Kamion: ah, lrm ftbfs-ed on ppc. [11:43] i also noticed the rename in the config dir.. but that *seems* to work ok [11:43] i need to go offline a few minutes... brb [11:44] fabbione: I'm unconvinced by that preinst, given that it has: [11:44] case "$1" in [11:44] configure) [11:45] fabbione: and preinst never gets $1 = configure === givr1 [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-37-129.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === holycow [n=a@mail.wjsgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:51] tfheen: I think that localechooser upload of mine may also fix that zh_CN/zh_TW issue that's on the ubuntu-6.10 list, but I'll need to test it [11:52] Kamion: good, thanks. [11:53] which leaves the manual partitioning summary bug and system-config-kickstart brokenness [11:53] malone doesn't do graphs yet? So there's no way for me to say "please give me a graph showing how many bugs match those criteria over the last ten days"? [11:53] no [11:53] is it planned? [11:54] we do that with cricket at the moment, and AFAIK theres no solid plan for that finess in data mining [11:54] or even just being able to get at those data would be immensely useful. [11:54] "show me how the situation looked ten days ago", "show me how it looked nine days ago", etc. [11:56] yah [11:56] spec it up :) [11:56] (sorry thats the best long term answer) [11:56] I guess so, yes. [11:56] short term, let stub know what you need, if the criteria are fairly static. [11:57] what I'm really wanting to know is "are we on track for having no targetted bugs on Thursday" [11:57] (and if not, how are we doing?) [11:57] kamion great nick [11:58] means truck in eastern eu languages, right? [11:58] Kamion: fehh.... === jack_wyt [n=jack@221.221.149.186] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tfheen gives back a bunch of gnome stuff on sparc [12:03] seb128: the libgnomeui thingy did clear a bunch but not all of the sparc mess.... [12:03] seb128: any idea what else might be missing? [12:03] fabbione: libvte-dev seems to be uninstallable? [12:03] it's probably something that needs a kick after libgnomeui build [12:04] tfheen: getting there... === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm238.omega16.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-devel === threestone [n=cj@222.169.25.112] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tkamppeter [i=till@nat/mandriva/x-d8466f600be48933] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:09] hi tkamppeter [12:09] hi pitti === fabbione sighs === ProN00b [n=dot@pD9E3B8E1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:11] who made the share folder functionality of ubuntu ? [12:12] i suggest sharing over ftp as a feature [12:12] fabbione: things probably need to be kicked in the right order, libs first === mantiena-baltix [n=svetelis@bonamens.lt] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:13] Hi all [12:14] seb128: kicked as in they are FTBFS and needs to be give-back or kicked as in re-uploaded to re-build? [12:14] fabbione: buildd retry [12:15] fabbione: it looks like the issue was gnome-python [12:15] pitti, thanks for updating CUPS, but probably we need another patch: bug 64725 [12:15] Malone bug 64725 in cupsys "USB driver cannot find printers if usblp0 is disconnected" [Undecided,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64725 [12:16] tkamppeter: yes, smurf already mailed me about it [12:16] fabbione: 0ubuntu5 I've uploaded this morning has built on sparc now, it's probably just a matter to retry build of gedit, gnome-applets, gnome-panel, etc when it's available now [12:16] tkamppeter: I'll review and test it today [12:16] seb128: i see... === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:16] tfheen: can we do a massive give-back? [12:17] fabbione: I've done a bunch of those already, I'll get more during the rest of the day. [12:17] tfheen: ok thanks [12:17] I have to clicky-clicky through the interface. :-/ [12:17] tfheen: i know you love that... [12:18] i am hungry.. a lot === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione heads toward the fridg4 === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:27] tfheen: libvte-dev looks installable now [12:27] i need food === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-37-129.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:29] hm, libapache2-mod-fcgid leaks memory in apache2's heap.. about 100MB/week for me.. (switching to -mod-fastcgi removes the growing behavior) === Treenaks hops to the launchpad [12:30] Treenaks: valgrind is your friend [12:31] tfheen: not on my Via C3 server === doluu [n=duluu@202.70.38.78] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:35] mjg59: is usplash supposed to just not start on nvidia? [12:36] tkamppeter: Hello - my sister asked me of how good the chances are to get a Lexmark Z43 working in Ubuntu - do you know anything about that? [12:37] Keybuk: it segfaults ATM, iirc [12:38] Keybuk: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/usplash/+bug/56587 [12:38] Malone bug 56587 in usplash "[edgy] usplash segfaults" [Medium,Confirmed] [12:40] ahh [12:40] ProN00b: AFAIK, it's an upstream GNOME feature [12:41] i see === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:43] tfheen: thanks for fixing the cdrom-checker === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:43] oh, no problem [12:45] infinity, any news about the arch specific package selection breakage ? my ppc-live is still 40Mb to big === herzi [n=herzi@pD9E2B65C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:49] grmbl, why the heck does update-manager remove xchat on every upgrade for me ... [12:51] which package contains net/errno.h file? [12:57] Keybuk, mjg59: it doesn't segfault here... [12:57] I have an odd grub feature to [12:57] it prints "kernel direct mapping tables ..." on the bottom line of the screen [12:57] does somebody know when uptodate Contents files will be available again on archive.ubuntu.com? [12:58] geser: they are generated daily [12:58] fabbione: do you have an amd64 with nvidia? [12:58] fabbione: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/ shows 07-Jun-2006 as date [12:59] tfheen: yes it's amd64 + nvidia, but i am running x86... i can test with livecd tho [12:59] Kamion, hi, could you tell me is /boot/initrd-* file, which is inside filesystem.cloop is needed in LiveCD ? [12:59] geser: feh.. that's about right === fabbione pokes some guys around [12:59] mantiena-baltix: it's not. [01:00] mantiena-baltix: but why are you using cloop? === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:00] tfheen, sorry, inside filesystem.squashfs === nenotnom [n=christof@81-225-188-103-o285.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:01] so, if initrd file is not needed why it's inside filesystem.squashfs from official Ubuntu CD's ? ;) [01:01] mantiena-baltix: anyway, it's not used by the live session. It's used by grub after installation, though. [01:01] tfheen, AFAIK initrd file is generated during installation, when you are installing with ubiquity [01:02] mantiena-baltix: it could be, at least. I don't think it is, though === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:03] tfheen, I think, that I should report a bug about not needed /boot/initrd* file inside filesystem.squashfs [01:06] mantiena-baltix: [01:06] argh [01:06] Kamion, you are ubiquity developer, what you think ? [01:06] mantiena-baltix: *shrug*; if so, it should go on ubuntu-cdimage. I don't see a big point in it, while it would save a bit of space on the CDs, which is good. [01:09] yea, this saves about 7 Mb disk space, which is very good for example for language-support-lt ;) [01:13] when is final artwork freeze? [01:13] I need to know for screenshots used in the winfoss section [01:14] heno: what are your thoughts on updating onboard? [01:15] tfheen: I agree it needs an update (just replied to your mail) [01:15] ok, thanks. [01:15] heno: r38 is fine with you? I can do the update for you. [01:16] tfheen: if the reporter was tortoise, then that's the developer [01:16] heno: tortoise_, but ok [01:16] tfheen: why not r40? [01:16] heno: because he said r38? [01:17] tfheen: hm, ok. Looks like he made two updates yesterday after being here then [01:18] heno, btw, onbioard works fine on ltsp clients ... what was the magnifier we ship ? i didnt test that one yet [01:18] r38 should be fine then [01:18] ogra: gnome-mag, powered by gnome-orca [01:18] oki [01:18] i'll check that one too (iirc it didnt work in wiesbaden) [01:18] right [01:19] ogra: it might get worse with hw-accelerated magnifiers in future [01:19] hrm, orca doesnt use gstreamer ? [01:19] how does ltsp deal with compiz stuff? [01:19] not at all [01:20] ogra: what should it use gstreamer for? [01:20] you dont have access to /dev/dri on the client from the users session [01:20] ogra: wasn't aiglx made to be "usable" over the net? [01:20] heno, i just had sound output when starting orca manually from console ... [01:20] (i.e. more usable than not at all) [01:21] ogra: cool! [01:21] Treenaks, i havent looked into that yet, might be ... but afaik you still need access to dev/dri [01:21] heno, not really ... it comes out of the server instead of using the gstreamer-esd redirect we use in ltsp [01:21] ogra: no, you need access to an X server with the GLX extension -- slight difference :) [01:21] Treenaks, yep === dous [n=dous@ubuntu/member/dous] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:22] "Accelerated Indirect GLX", hence no absolute need for "Direct Rendering Interface" access [01:22] mjr: although I keep confusing XGL and GLX :) [01:22] ogra: perhaps you can file a bug on orca upstream, I'm sure they'd want to fix that [01:23] gnr, the onboard package should be a proper branch [01:24] heno, ogra Thats not an orca issue. [01:24] Its to do with festival/gnome-speech. [01:25] tfheen: in the 'project' or in the ubuntu archive? [01:25] right, that might be ... *something* isnt using gstreamer here :) === `anthony [n=anthony@220-253-55-104.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:25] TheMuso: does speech dispatcher look any better in that regard [01:25] heno: the package you get when you do apt-get source onboard should, IMNHSO include the .bzr directory. [01:26]