[02:19] <milosevic> same thing :/
[10:05] <jenda> Haha :) My Korean friend was at a library and saw a lappy with an ubuntu sticker :) It made his day.
[10:05] <jenda> It would make mine too, come to think of it.
[10:06] <elkbuntu> lol
[10:06] <tonyyarusso> jenda: One of the little ones like system76 is handing out, or the big banner kind like sabdfl has on his Thinkpad?
[10:07] <jenda> The sabdfl one.
[10:07] <jenda> I have one on my lappy too.
[10:07] <tonyyarusso> jenda: Where did you get it?
[10:08] <jenda> tonyyarusso: You probably meant "One of the little ones like you are handing out, or the big banner kind like sabdfl has on his Thinkpad?"
[10:08] <jenda> tonyyarusso: came with the shipit CDs
[10:08] <Madpilot> there's an even larger sticker that was handed out at the Montreal Ubuntu thing earlier this year - similar to the ShipIt one, but twice the size
[10:09] <jenda> I see
[10:09] <tonyyarusso> jenda: I'm referring to http://system76.com/index.php/cPath/53_64; not sure what your connection is that that particular one.
[10:09] <jenda> Madpilot: and did it stick twice better, too?
[10:09] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: Yeah, I think that's the one I meant.
[10:09] <Madpilot> no idea - the ShipIt sticker on the side of my desktop tower seems to stick well enough
[10:10] <jenda> tonyyarusso: None, but I sent out almost 1000 of these: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Shipping
[10:10] <jenda> Madpilot: I see... I had trouble with mine. Had to glue it in the end :)
[10:10] <tonyyarusso> jenda: Oh yeah, I remember seeing a bit of hubbub on the mailing list about that.
[10:10] <jenda> hehe
[10:11] <jenda> yeah, on the mailing list it was when I proposed it as a MT project. Since it was rejected, I made it a private endeavour and spread it elsewhere.
[10:12] <tonyyarusso> jenda: What did you end up charging anyway?
[10:12] <jenda> However, the point is still more general: I want to encourage others to do similar things.
[10:13] <jenda> tonyyarusso: $3 for 10 stickers became standard, ranging all the way to $15 for 100 (notice the price per sticker is half there)
[10:13] <tonyyarusso> jenda: Is that with basic shipping?
[10:13] <jenda> with any shipping
[10:13] <jenda> made a flat price on that
[10:14] <jenda> only exception was when people picked it up in person :)
[10:14] <tonyyarusso> Cool.
[10:14] <jenda> tonyyarusso: and did you catch the posters?
[10:14] <tonyyarusso> Unfortunately, while I don't mind it as a desktop background, I'm not sure I like the brown in a sticker.  Not sure.
[10:15] <jenda> (it looks great on silver lappys - not sure about dark)
[10:15] <tonyyarusso> jenda: I saw your scope included that, but haven't seen them.
[10:15] <tonyyarusso> (black lappy here)
[10:15] <jenda> big mistake, lemme link ;)
[10:15] <jenda> http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/DIY%20Material/Batch%201,%20Posters/HanZo/poster-v01.jpg
[10:15] <jenda> http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/DIY%20Material/Batch%201,%20Posters/HanZo/poster-v02.1.jpg
[10:15] <BHSPitLappy> tonyyarusso, I agree with the brown thing.
[10:15] <jenda> Take the title from the first and the fine print from the second, and that's the result.
[10:16] <Madpilot> jenda, hadn't realized that final versions of those posters had been made - that is a very cool design
[10:17] <jenda> BHSPitLappy, tonyyarusso, I'm out of the browns anyway - and MenZa has sent me some 500 white ones (much like system76's) very cheap to help fund the posters.
[10:17] <jenda> Madpilot: read the UWN! :)
[10:17] <tonyyarusso> What I would really like is to have foil stickers, like the Windows one it will replace.
[10:18] <BHSPitLappy> tonyyarusso, you can order those from a german site
[10:18] <jenda> Too expensive to prent.
[10:18] <tonyyarusso> BHSPitLappy: Expensive though.
[10:18] <BHSPitLappy> unfortunately, the site and the checkout is in german ^^
[10:18] <BHSPitLappy> I don't think the price is bad.
[10:18] <BHSPitLappy> well
[10:18] <BHSPitLappy> yeah.
[10:19] <tonyyarusso> BHSPitLappy: Well, I got someone in here to help me navigate the german one night.  The shipping comes out as more than half the original price was though, so it would be better if they could be done in bulk.
[10:19] <jenda> It's funny how shipping is expensive everywhere, but cheap here.
[10:19] <jenda> I sent fifity stickers to a guy and payed 0.40
[10:20] <jenda> Menza sent fifity stickers to the same guy from where he is (Denmark) and payed 5
[10:20] <BHSPitLappy> yeah... we need to coordinate with some German Ubuntu Marketing Teams to get a large order over to the states
[10:20] <jenda> BHSPitLappy: Aren't paper ones good enough? :)
[10:20] <BHSPitLappy> no!
[10:20] <BHSPitLappy> ;)
[10:21] <jenda> You must be the first to complain :)
[10:21] <BHSPitLappy> hehe
[10:21] <BHSPitLappy> well I want a silvery one for this laptop.
[10:21] <tonyyarusso> BHSPitLappy: Yeah, 4,90 EU cost for 10 plus 2,50 EU for shipping, that's $10.50
[10:21] <BHSPitLappy> and my mom's laptop, now! she just got one
[10:21] <BHSPitLappy> and I've already ubuntized it ;)
[10:21] <jenda> BHSPitLappy: And how about contacting local printers and trying to print in bulk and sell out?
[10:21] <jenda> You can even gain a bit of pocket money on that, if you want.
[10:22] <BHSPitLappy> jenda, I dunno who can print those fancy things
[10:22] <jenda> The budget of my stickers ended up with a 50% profit - all goes to fund the posters, as I'm still some $200 in the red there.
[10:23] <BHSPitLappy> how about organizing a mural painting event ^^
[10:23] <jenda> Madpilot: The designer will get 5 prints for free... and my everlasting respect. Probably some good publicity, too :)
[10:23] <BHSPitLappy> like, on one side of Trump Tower or something :)
[10:23] <jenda> I should really go :)
[10:24] <BHSPitLappy> nah
[10:24] <Madpilot> jenda, cool - do you have larger-res versions of the poster images for printing?
[10:24] <jenda> Madpilot: will have.
[10:24] <jenda> He said he'll finish it by today, so we'll see :)
[10:25] <BHSPitLappy> I should start a LUG at school
[10:25] <BHSPitLappy> as like, a club or something
[10:25] <BHSPitLappy> lol
[10:25] <jenda> BHSPitLappy: where is that?
[10:25] <BHSPitLappy> a high school :_
[10:25] <BHSPitLappy> s/:_/:)/
[10:26] <tonyyarusso> You gotta love how the naked people is still the number two Google Images result...
[10:26] <BHSPitLappy> lol yup
[10:26] <jenda> argh, I meant _where_, BHSPitLappy :) Wanted to have a look if I can find anything in the area that's already up.
[10:27] <BHSPitLappy> jenda, DFW texas
[10:27] <BHSPitLappy> but I just meant as a school club
[10:27] <BHSPitLappy> it'd be funny
[10:27] <jenda> Oh, ok.
[10:27] <jenda> If you can find more than a metric 1 linux user at your school... 
[10:28] <BHSPitLappy> it'd be hard finding a sponsor though, I don't think there's a grown person in the school who knows what linux is
[10:28] <BHSPitLappy> lol yeah, it'd just be me and the handful of friends I've already "saved"
[10:28] <BHSPitLappy> but hey, maybe then it would grow, eh
[10:29] <tonyyarusso> I bought a spindle of 100 CDs and am pondering what I'll do with them
[10:30] <jenda> tough decision there...
[10:30] <jenda> mine is tougher, as my burner refuses to work in Ubuntu.
[10:30] <tonyyarusso> Well, I know what I'll put on them, but where will they go, and how?
[10:30] <BHSPitLappy> jenda, that sucks.
[10:31] <BHSPitLappy> I've had nothing but success with burners and linux
[10:32] <jenda> Lappy burner, and no idea what to do about it. Not on dapper, not on edgy.
[10:32] <jenda> Oh well.
[10:33] <BHSPitLappy> hmm
[10:33] <BHSPitLappy> my lappy's works, CD and DVD :/
[10:33] <jenda> Lucky you ):
[10:33] <jenda> :)
[10:34] <BHSPitLappy> I wish there were more linux users my age, if I go to a local LUG meeting it'd be all people in their 30's+
[10:34] <BHSPitLappy> no offense to 30's+ people
[10:35] <jenda> It's your job to create those people :)
[10:35] <BHSPitLappy> *sigh*
[10:36] <BHSPitLappy> there are enough problems, though, with ubuntu in its current state to (justifiably) turn away many a potential new user.
[10:37] <BHSPitLappy> or, rather, ubuntu and other components of the opensource world
[10:37] <jenda> agreed.
[10:37] <BHSPitLappy> my biggest pain is wireless
[10:37] <jenda> OK, I gotta run to school. Wish luck - first day.
[10:38] <BHSPitLappy> good luck -.-
[10:38] <jenda> 
[10:38] <jenda> thx
[10:38] <tonyyarusso> BHSPitLappy: I'm 20 - am I close?
[10:38] <BHSPitLappy> tonyyarusso, pretty.
[10:38] <tonyyarusso> See, you're not totally alone.
[10:38] <BHSPitLappy> but see, you're not a neighbor or a classmate or anything :P
[10:39] <tonyyarusso> True enough.
[10:39] <tonyyarusso> That's why we have our little virtual neighborhood here :)
[10:39] <BHSPitLappy> it'd be nice to have intelligent face-to-face conversation RE: technology for a change
[10:39] <BHSPitLappy> hmm.. .Ubuntu Teamspeak server, anyone? :P
[10:40] <tonyyarusso> Well, I'm a physics major, so while I may not find another Ubuntu user intelligent conversation is easy to come by.
[10:45] <BHSPitLappy> cool
[10:45] <BHSPitLappy> I've got some physics homework myself... o.o
[10:45] <jenda> (and is a Law student)
[10:48] <BHSPitLappy> get to class!
[10:48] <BHSPitLappy> you gonna be a lawyer for the FSF when you grow up? hehe
[10:49] <jenda> Well, I wanted to run some errands before class, but it's too late now :)
[10:49] <jenda> BHSPitLappy: great idea ;)
[10:49] <BHSPitLappy> you can sue mozilla for being ridiculous
[10:50] <BHSPitLappy> or sue my wireless card for not wanting to work in ubuntu
[10:52] <jenda> Well, it's not mozilla who's ridiculous... it's the intellectual property rights.
[10:52] <jenda> :)
[10:52] <jenda> They're taking a ride...
[10:52] <jenda> And lawyers don't sue - they take care of the folks who sue only to find out they aren't lawyers ;)
[10:55] <BHSPitLappy> and distribute linux stickers
[10:56] <BHSPitLappy> at least, from my experience, that's what lawyers do
[10:56] <BHSPitLappy> tonyyarusso, where be ye from
[10:57] <tonyyarusso> BHSPitLappy: Be I from St. Paul, Minnesota, and I be currently residing in Peterborough, Ontario.
[10:58] <BHSPitLappy> ah
[10:58] <BHSPitLappy> so you didn't really have to acculmate to a new accent...
[10:58] <BHSPitLappy> .... eh? ;)
[11:00] <tonyyarusso> Nope, very, very similar.  In fact, this particular area is more similar in accent than the area I drive through to get here.
[11:34] <BHSPitLappy> jenda, did the whole "school" plan just fall under
[11:37] <tonyyarusso> Well, at 19 that's probably college/uni, which has non-consecutive classes?
[11:39] <BHSPitLappy> huh?
[11:39] <BHSPitLappy> he had to run to class at like, 20 till
[11:39] <BHSPitLappy> and he was back online at 4 after
[11:44] <tonyyarusso> Maybe he has access in class?
[11:44] <tonyyarusso> jenda: You're driving us nuts here buddy; what gives?
[09:47] <jenda> BHSPitLappy: hehe... nah, I just switched from my lappy to the big box
[09:47] <BHSPitLappy> do what?
 he had to run to class at like, 20 till
 and he was back online at 4 after
[09:50] <BHSPitLappy> k
[09:50] <BHSPitLappy> that was 10 hours ago
[09:50] <jenda> I had to run to class, so I disconnected my lappy, on which I take notes in class, and switched on the big box
[09:50] <jenda> Well, I was at school and running errands till now :)
[11:14] <Mitch_> ping
[11:15] <MitchM> anyone have Elkbuntu's e-mail addy?
[11:18] <jenda> MitchM: elkbuntu@ubuntu.com
[11:18] <jenda> :)
[11:18] <MitchM> :-P
[11:18] <MitchM> i still need to umm; send you money!
[11:18] <jenda> That you should, indeed ;)
[11:19] <MitchM> umm how much?
[11:19] <tonyyarusso> MitchM: Also, melissa@meldraweb.com ; not sure which is preferred.
[11:19] <jenda> It should be $10 bucks, because it was shipped by MenZa expensively.
[11:19] <jenda> tonyyarusso!
[11:19] <MenZa> jenda: got yours?
[11:19] <tonyyarusso> Don't get too excited; I'm on my way out for a bit.
[11:19] <jenda> MenZa: not yet
[11:20] <tonyyarusso> (I need some fresh air after working with nasty solvents.)
[11:20] <MenZa> jenda: should be there this week.
[11:20] <tonyyarusso> But I shall return, don't you worry.
[11:20] <jenda> tonyyarusso: No, I meant, don't post email addys in publically logged channels... although I now realised the ubuntu.com one above is also an email addy :/
[11:20] <MitchM> ok. 10$ it is; pm me your e-mail.
[11:21] <tonyyarusso> jenda: Ah, right.  I figured since you did it maybe it would be okay...but I guess we're both oopsy.  :(
[11:21] <jenda> poor elkbuntu...
[11:21] <tonyyarusso> We know nothing.
[11:21] <tonyyarusso> (Is it possible to edit a log?)
[11:21] <jenda> Hmm... it might :)
[11:22] <jenda> I'll ask the ubuntulog maintainer.
[11:22] <tonyyarusso> Sweet.
[11:22] <tonyyarusso> Anyway, I'm off.
[11:22] <jenda> laters
[11:22] <MitchM> laters
[11:23] <jenda> (I'll suggest an auto-parser that would look for email addys and <nospamified> them)
[11:25] <jenda> MitchM: hey, thanks for the cash.
[11:26] <jenda> Last debt payed :)
[11:26] <MitchM> :-P
[11:26] <MitchM> there is not a "you took a long arse time" compensation?
[11:26] <MitchM> good.
[11:26] <jenda> hehe :)
[11:26] <MitchM> =)
[11:26] <jenda> want a kick? :)
[11:26] <MitchM> hmm.
[11:26] <jenda> That makes me...
[11:26] <MitchM> like a real kick
[11:27] <MitchM> or an irc kick?
[11:27] <MitchM> because one will make me made; the other might just tickle.
[11:27] <jenda> OK, if we ever meet RL, remind me :)
[11:27] <MitchM> :)
[11:27] <MitchM> lol will do
[11:27] <MitchM> umm -- any news on how ubuntucounter.org is doing?
[11:27] <MitchM> im hosting it; but havnt kept up-to-date.
[11:27] <jenda> You'd have to ask elkubuntu :)
[11:27] <MitchM> ack
[11:27] <jenda> but it looks good, I think.
[11:27] <MitchM> =P
[11:28] <MitchM> she was having problems changing dns
[11:28] <MitchM> semi-big mess and what-not
[11:28] <jenda> (I was about to say, that makes me only about $166 in the red :) )
[11:28] <MitchM> ouch!
[11:28] <jenda> That is... including posters
[11:28] <jenda> and that means... $166 in the red with 500 stickers and 500 posters to sell...
[11:28] <jenda> that's not ouch... that's great :)
[11:29] <jenda> ARGH
[11:29] <jenda> No, I forgot the TAX
[11:29] <jenda> !lart me
[11:29] <jenda> grr...
[11:30] <jenda> that's another $60 :(
[11:31] <jenda> that's ouch. I'll have to re-calculate the prices.
[11:32] <jenda> $0.75 per poster is production cost. That means I can stay at the current price of $10 for 10 pcs, shipping included... but it's a close call.
[11:33] <jenda> It's where I lose bits.
[11:33] <MitchM> lol.
[11:33] <MitchM> you have that all figured out =P
[11:34] <jenda> hehe :)
[11:34] <jenda> Just as you said that, the Frank Zappa song playing went 'hail Ceasar'
[11:35] <jenda> _exactly_ at the same time, MitchM :)
[11:35] <MitchM> haha.
[11:35] <MitchM> Surprise!
[11:36] <jenda> 
[11:37] <jenda> still needs a lot of work, that :)
[11:44] <BHSPitLappy> like ubuntu
[11:48] <jenda> indeed
[11:51] <jenda> MitchM: BTW, after checking (thanks, openoffice Calc :) ), I found that even with the 19% jump, I can fit in nicely. When I set the first price estimates, I always rather told people more, because telling someone they have to pay less than the price originally asked is better than more...
[11:52] <jenda> So Poster prices will go down once I strike even... but shh!
[11:52] <jenda> (In fact, I intend to give a few as prizes for the #ubuntu-trivia quizzes... and who knows what :))