=== Laser_away [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:50] hmm, I need a "CVS for svn users" tutorial :/ [12:52] aka "going back to the stone age" [12:53] well, lots of projects still use it :/ [12:53] I've never had to use it before [12:54] I went and ran autogen.sh and ./configure && make && make install [12:54] but CVS has no revert [12:54] that I can find === twanj [n=chatzill@c-66-176-118-121.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:56] do most people checkout the CVS and then copy it to a tmp dir to work in? [12:57] heh alot of companies still use cvs [12:57] Laser_away: cvs up -C file [12:58] well, I'm particularly working with a few Gnome apps [12:58] sigh [12:58] so I've got 3 CVS checkouts [12:58] motu meeting tonight [12:58] well, 3AM for me [12:58] poor ajmitch [12:59] if you can't make it we'll understand for sure [12:59] heh [12:59] I might try [12:59] back later [12:59] if you can't though maybe you could email your thoughts on the agenda items [12:59] :-) === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [01:02] where is the agenda anyways? [01:03] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Meetings === CarlFK [n=carl@c-24-13-53-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@modemcable134.202-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mister_roboto [n=jrk@24-136-10-99.hnc-bsr1.chi-hnc.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:27] anyone know how to make a request for new software to be placed in the repositories? [01:28] universe is frozen for edgy [01:29] Adri2000: yes, but i'm asking for the next version [01:29] ah [01:29] Adri2000: or some time in the future [01:29] new ubuntu version? [01:30] the software i'd like to see it "truecrypt". the current source that you can download from their site doesn't compile on edgy and the .deb is for dapper [01:30] would be nice to see it maintained properly [01:31] if you know about packaging you can create a package for edgy+1 (in a few weeks) and send put it on REVU, if you don't, you can request it here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates [01:31] s/send put/put/ [01:32] Adri2000: thanks! [01:32] mister_roboto: iirc there are licensing issue with truecrypt [01:32] *issues [01:33] dunno if it has been fixed [01:33] Toadstool: hmmm... no idea [01:33] Toadstool: been using it on windows and it's pretty slick === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === redguy [n=mati@acm245.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:00] back [02:04] yay! === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@st0660990722.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth_ [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === amachu [n=amachu@125.22.79.150] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === truz_`24 [n=truz_`24@74.129.166.232] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:44] ajmitch: you up? [04:45] LaserJock: it's approximately 4pm [04:45] yes, I am awake === BazziR [n=Bastian@p50803483.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:46] what do you think of making a script to send pbuilder jobs to people's machines and getting .debs and build logs back [04:47] sounds moderately crackful, but not very hard [04:47] I had 2-3 people who wanted to donate CPU time on their computers [04:47] I could do it with mini-dinstall & some hooks in a short time [04:47] to the MOTU === ajmitch is generally far shorter on bandwidth than on cpu time === LaserJock is short on arch and cpu time [04:48] & I just have 2 systems at home to build on [04:49] which shows how short I am on bandwidth :) [04:49] hehe [04:49] well, I was wondering [04:49] maybe we could use tiber [04:49] tiber == slow [04:49] where MOTUs and Hopefuls would put packages they need built [04:50] it could be used for coordinating & sending stuff out [04:50] yes, that's what I'm talking about [04:50] remember that it's not 100% secure building stuff for others, even inside pbuilder [04:50] yeah [04:51] I was trying to think of a what to do it [04:51] What you guys are discussing is along a similar line to what I was thinking. === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:51] perhaps using gpg and having some sort of screening mechanism [04:51] TheMuso: yes, I am :-) [04:52] the guy that's doing mubuntu [04:52] said he would donate some time on his AMD64 4600+ === ajmitch would be happy doing this in some xen instances, rather than in builder [04:52] sigh, I've only got a slow old 4200+ :) [04:53] Heh. I don't even have a 640bit CPU. [04:53] 64-bit even [04:53] :) [04:53] I've got a stink 1.3 GHz P4 so :p [04:53] Well I do in my alpha, but thats not an Ubuntu supported arch. [04:54] somebody even mentioned they might be willing to buy a machine for MOTU to use [04:54] I put a MOTU Build Farm (TheMuso's stuff) and Donations on the agenda for the MOTU Meeting [04:55] Cool. [04:55] it might be interesting to consider [04:55] I see 2 issues [04:55] 1) trust [04:56] 2) it's pretty straightforward to build, but what about testing the resulting .debs [04:56] LaserJock: Yeah. [04:57] for testing we could look into piuparts [04:57] If we only had to worry about building them, and some people felt brave enough, they could do what imbrandon is trying to do, and set up cross-compile pbuilders etc. [04:57] So fast AMD64/i386 machines could host cross-compilers. [04:57] But it still doesn't solve the trust issue. [04:58] decent isolation like xen can help [04:59] Right. [05:00] well, if we seperate uploader from builder (having a source repo on tiber that builders pull from) [05:00] then it eliminates trust issues on the builder's end I think [05:01] One thing that has to be considered is bandwidth. Some of us are on the other side of the planet. [05:01] but on our end [05:01] as far as uploading? [05:01] Just general passing files around to machines etc. [05:02] well [05:02] I do that all the time anyway [05:02] in the basic case I'm not sure there would need to be a lot of transfer [05:02] Passing files between machines over the net back and forth etc? [05:02] Yeah I know. [05:03] apt-get source, upload to REVU, transfer to my home computer, transfer ... [05:03] Perhaps a system where the owner of a donated system can set up just how much bandwidth they have, so they for example need to worry about big source packages. [05:03] yeah [05:03] And same with CPU speed. [05:03] I was thinking the builder could set up certain criteria like that [05:04] Slower machines can be set to only build small packages [05:04] perhaps even time of day [05:04] Yeah. [05:06] but I think even having machines to look at FTBFS on amd64 and ppc would be nice === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:06] just returning the build log [05:11] Yeah. [05:11] LaserJock: technically, it's not hard to setup [05:11] Hobbsee: are you really here? [05:12] she's probably at uni [05:12] hey LaserJock. indeed. [05:13] and i am at uni, yes [05:13] working hard? [05:13] LaserJock: eg sbuild should get xen support at some point - so the combination of sbuild+lvm+xen is fairly safe [05:13] yeah...got a couple more assignmetns today :( why? [05:13] or you could just do pbuilder [05:13] Hobbsee: what classes are you taking? [05:14] LaserJock: computing (c++), physics, electronics, maths [05:14] of course Hobbsee is working hard... [05:15] slacking more like [05:15] ah C++, you should teach me [05:15] heh [05:15] I want to learn C++ [05:15] I was hoping to go through life without having to [05:16] but alas, the world hasn't converted to Python completely ;-) [05:17] aren't most Gnome apps written in C? [05:17] LaserJock: afaik yes [05:17] hmm, I wonder why the ones I'm looking at are C++ [05:17] I'll have to ask the dev [05:17] hehe === Hobbsee might learn python next [05:17] LaserJock: What package? [05:17] gnome-chemistry-utils [05:18] chemisty-mime-data [05:18] What are its deps? [05:18] goffice [05:18] Does it depend on gtkmm anywhere? [05:18] nope [05:18] oh ok. [05:19] maybe he just likes C++ better [05:19] I am surprised that he doesn't use the gtkmm wrappers. [05:19] Or he might use gnomemm wrappers. [05:20] I think he said he didn't [05:20] at least for gtkmm [05:20] not sure about gnomemm [05:20] Right. [05:21] do you know how I could tell from the code? [05:21] nope [05:22] maybe I can write python bindings for the library [05:22] haha, who am I kidding? ;-) [05:25] go for it! [05:26] oh sweet, Gnome bindings for Fortran :-) [05:27] I'm only a raging Ubuntu-holic MOTU, I have no programming supa powers :'( [05:28] like, I thought I knew some python, but Amaranth clearly showed me I have no idea how to use Python ;-) [05:28] heh === ajmitch has no powers whatsoever [05:29] I'm just your everyday hacker [05:29] LaserJock: I'm not proud of some of the things I've made Python do. :P [05:30] haha [05:30] Amaranth: you can get help for that [05:30] Amaranth: my wife is a couselor, she might be able to help [05:30] Like, say, replacing the class an object is an instance of without recreating the object. [05:31] Amaranth: when you're abusing things like that, you know something is wrong [05:31] it's not something to be proud of by any means :P [05:31] ajmitch: It didn't work out anyway, pygtk doesn't create new-style classes [05:33] unfortunate [05:33] I believe I was trying to replace an automatically created child of a widget with a subclassed version that had extra methods i needed :P [05:33] new-style classes do have their uses === jinty [n=jinty@205.Red-83-56-149.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.64.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:25] crimsun: got any recommendations for C++ books/resources online [06:32] bah, just reattached === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:35] hello crimsun [06:36] hi ajmitch === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:44] hello Burgundavia [06:44] hey ajmitch [06:45] how's boston? [06:46] not bad [06:46] is today a holiday in europe? [06:46] no idea [06:47] I think I talked a rh guy into shipping g-a-i on Fedora [06:47] great [06:47] how was whiprush's session? [06:47] pretty quiet [06:47] it was just me and whiprush [06:47] that's sad [06:48] I thought there'd be some more interest than that [06:49] yep [06:49] sadly federico couldn't make it [06:49] hopefully you'll get a bit more interest at UDS [06:50] if I am there [06:50] if? [06:50] work is about to start a huge new project [06:50] right [06:50] I thought you'd already arranged to get there [06:51] which means I may not be able to go [06:51] how annoying [06:51] I should have just booked the tickets and then used them as a fait accompli [06:51] a shame I didn't have money for airfares last week [06:51] since they've gone up a bit now [06:52] have they gone up? [06:52] about $200 NZD [06:52] hmm, that sucks [06:52] quite [06:53] it may have been manageable beforehand, now it's a bit tighter === ajmitch shrugs [06:57] 16K open bugs, and RC freeze in a matter of days [06:57] we're doing well [06:57] anyone know if pengi really means penguin in japanese? === nictuku [n=yves@ubuntu/member/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvolt1ge [n=jono@196.1.61.13] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nmsa [i=ca526544@gateway/web/cgi-irc/wiki.ubuntu.ro/x-6379070925c75150] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zdra [n=zdra@182.246-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cain_ [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cain_ [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.126.146.177] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:33] moins all [08:34] TheMuso: still arround ? [08:34] imbrandon_: For a bit yeah. [08:34] cool, i got the cross compilers working and cross packageing [08:34] Nice. [08:34] MUCH simpler than the howto i put up before [08:35] i only have one small issue to work out [08:35] but it will be easy i think [08:35] ( the extra libs from non-base packages that are arch specific ) [08:35] like xlibs [08:36] Right. [08:36] but simple packages ( that dont require extra libs ) work perfect [08:36] the rest should just be a matter of paths [08:37] i think this is gonna work out good for the MOTU farm ( and those that want to do it on their own too ) [08:39] i also ran accross a project called dpbuilder ( distribute pbuilder ) so jobs get scheduled accross machines [08:39] but a sigle job still runs on one machine [08:39] so say i setup 4 500mhz ppc machines , you would only have to log into one [08:40] and run dpbuilder on the package [08:40] the package would build localy but say the second motu that logs in [08:40] and runs dpbuiler his package gets scheduled on another machine [08:40] but you both only have to have one login [08:41] all in all its looking promising [08:43] imbrandon_: Will you be at the MOTU meeting [08:43] yup [08:43] THe motu build farm is on the agenda for that. [08:43] oh nice [08:44] So you can talk about that then. [08:44] THe biggest concern for some of us is security. [08:44] By some of us, I mean others who have talked about it in here. [08:44] hi TheMuso, imbrandon_ [08:45] Hey ajmitch. [08:45] heya ajmitch [08:45] TheMuso: yea i thought about that too, i was looking into setting up chroot jails for each user [08:45] shouldent be hard at all [08:45] Anyway, I'll be back in about 35-40 minutes. [08:45] cool [08:46] imbrandon_: depends on how much you trust people who will be logging in [08:48] true [08:49] but if they are jailed then [08:49] then they probably still have full network access & chroots can be broken [08:49] they shouldent be able to get out ( as long as they cant run setuid progs ) [08:50] hum true, it will have to have a good design and be thought out well [08:50] but i think it will be doable ( just not overnight ) [08:50] you ? [08:50] sure, it's not hard [08:51] i mean like right now i only let people i trust but still keep security pretty high but still [08:51] i wouldent let the public in as is [08:51] s/public/just any MOTU [08:51] heh === ajmitch has only let a couple of people on with pbuilder/chroot here [08:52] yea i only have , hmr 4 accounts me, hobbsee , fujitsu , and seveas [08:53] hey yeah, meeting is on tonight. that's right === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B2173.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:54] heya Hobbsee [08:54] heya [08:54] hi dholbach [08:54] Hobbsee! dholbach! [08:54] good morning [08:55] hey Hobbsee, hey imbrandon [08:55] ajmitch! [08:55] heya ajmitch [08:55] Hobbsee, thanks for the reminder! [08:55] I must remember not to go to bed. [08:55] hehe [08:55] heh [08:55] how many hours is it ? === abelcheung_ [n=abelcheu@221.126.144.31] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:57] 7 hours === ajmitch might go to bed soon & get up for the meeting [08:57] once I get through some more bugs [08:58] heh === nenotnom [n=christof@81-225-188-103-o285.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous [n=dous@ubuntu/member/dous] has joined #ubuntu-motu === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@61.190.64.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:11] heya elkbuntu [09:11] hi :) === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:11] hello elkbuntu === mayday_jay [n=mayday_j@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheMuso walks in. [09:29] nixternal: ping [09:31] nixternal: just wanted to poke you about your blog, you do know sun and canonical worked closely togather bringing ubuntu to the niagra chips .... i would have posted this as a comment but the math check is a little fubard ( it told me 7 x 9 isnt 63 ) [09:32] imbrandon_: he didn't deny that :) [09:32] "I highly doubt that Sun will be the last..." [09:33] sort of implies that he knew that :) [09:33] hrm i guess, heh [09:34] ahh ok , i see, i was reading that diffrently === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:48] imbrandon_, just wanted to poke about those two LP bugs I had up for mythtv and mythplugins. did you get a chance to look at either? [09:48] ahh crap no i got busy with gcc stuff and forgot, whats the bug numbers i'll do it now [09:48] sorry [09:48] let me look em' up really quick ' [09:50] bug 63486 and bug 74285 [09:50] Malone bug 63486 in mythplugins "mythphone causes mythfrontend seg fault on amd64" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/63486 [09:50] *64285 [09:50] bug 64285 [09:50] Malone bug 64285 in mythtv "Update to newer debian multimedia revision" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64285 [09:51] kk === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:05] hi spacey [10:05] hi ajmitch === spacey fixed his xen stuff [10:05] great [10:06] what was the problem? [10:06] wierd =) [10:06] at some point it seemed it was the software raid [10:06] and at another point it seemed some conflict with one of the machines [10:06] that's worrying [10:07] we had xen from binary install thingy before and it worked on that same machine [10:07] but now we have RAID1 working on another machine with the latest edgy kernel [10:07] superm1, done and done [10:07] thanks [10:07] cool [10:07] great [10:08] yea i realized that it would be a mess if edgy didnt have 0.20-fixes patches, considering all the other big distros are already applying them [10:08] but that one machine which worked flawlessly with the xen kernel from xen and with the latest ubuntu kernel had lots of problems with the edgy xen kernel 2.6.17-1 [10:08] and many people (including me) have other distros running in our myth networks ;) [10:09] ajmitch: i wanted to file a bug on it, but i don't have much to hold on, except that it went to 100% IOwait after a while. [10:09] that was with and without RAID btw [10:10] always with the 2.6.17 edgy kernel? === cntb [n=user@ODAP-62-0-83-95.bb.netvision.net.il] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:12] imbrandon, Okay well i'm off to bed, cya later === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has left #ubuntu-motu ["chapo] [10:12] cya [10:13] ajmitch: yeah the 2.6.17-1-xen0 [10:13] not with the normal ubuntu kernel [10:14] oh yeah and the -server versions [10:14] odd [10:14] you could file a bug, but I don't know how easy it'll be to track down [10:15] ajmitch: yeah thats the problem [10:15] i could try again with the 2.6.17-5 kernel on the problem machine [10:15] but anyway it seemed like two problems at the same time [10:17] there aren't many changes in -5 [10:17] usually just build changes === tolido [n=lai@CPE0014bff97596-CM014490111447.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tolido [n=lai@CPE0014bff97596-CM014490111447.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [10:22] hm magic [10:22] heh === ajmitch goes on a mass-rebuild spree [10:23] heh [10:23] you got the list of rebuilds? === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-40-58.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:23] I'm doing xfonts stuff for fabbione at the moment [10:24] ahh cool [10:24] as they break dapper->edgy upgrades [10:24] nice [10:24] lol [10:24] thats a feature right ? [10:24] heh [10:24] yeah [10:24] undocumented === geser [n=michael@dialin110158.justdsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:24] ;) [10:26] you know i'm beging to really hate my word press theme, its too narrow [10:26] hi all [10:27] heya zakame [10:27] hello imbrandon what's up? [10:27] hey zakame [10:27] yo ajmitch ! :D [10:27] not alot, getting ready to take a break from the computer for an hour or so then maybe redo my blog theme , if i dont find any bugs to squish between now and then [10:27] ;) [10:28] hmm what's with the blog? did something happen? [10:28] nothing really, i just noticed when i was writing a howto for the cross compiler stuff that my theme is tooo narrow ( its made for 800x600 ) [10:28] and i realy hate it that narrow === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame checks [10:31] ah, right [10:32] hi \sh [10:33] hello \sh [10:33] <\sh> moins === abelcheung__ [n=abelcheu@221.126.153.138] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xerxas [n=R67894@AGrenoble-257-1-6-136.w86-193.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio__ [n=tonio@6.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:46] morning! === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:54] ajmitch: ah RAID is still a problem ;-( [10:55] I didn't expect it would have changed [11:00] <\sh> ajmitch: tested wine 0.9.22 with diablo2? ;) [11:00] nope === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.126.145.116] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givr1 [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-37-129.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu_ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-105-24.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === threestone [n=cj@222.169.25.112] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-37-129.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doluu [n=duluu@202.70.38.78] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:36] in which package contains lib inet [12:36] doluu: packages.ubuntu.com has a search feature for that [12:39] wow , north korea set a nuke off this morning [12:39] wonderfull [12:41] imbrandon, yeah, I know. [12:41] 'tis great. [12:41] Very encouraging. === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:41] heya Fujitsu [12:41] Hi imbrandon., === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:45] it seems that there is no networking related headers and libraries [12:45] which package I should install [12:45] net/errno.h for example === herzi [n=herzi@pD9E2B65C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:46] doluu: build-essential, which drags in things like libc6-dev [12:46] ajmitch, you dident get much sleep ( or have you even gone yet ) heh [12:47] imbrandon: haven't gone yet [12:47] ahh === jekil [n=alessand@host138-159-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:49] still can't find something useful [12:51] doluu: you may find that errno.h should be === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nenotnom [n=christof@81-225-188-103-o285.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:03] i'm trying to build stk - scheme interpreter [01:03] its configure looks for net/errno.h and to link to inet === dous [n=dous@ubuntu/member/dous] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:25] can someone help me with bug 64363? [01:25] Malone bug 64363 in uswsusp "Package new debian release" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64363 [01:25] the problem is that uswsusp is pacakaged differently in Ubuntu and Debian [01:28] it'd be quite a long shot to get a UVF exception === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw8-feaff900-158.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tortoise_ [n=tortoise@194.164.140.64] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twanj [n=chatzill@c-66-176-118-121.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === carlospc [n=carlospc@146.Red-80-36-81.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AnAnt [n=anant@81.10.9.182] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:59] anyone knows the difference between -386 & -generic kernels ? === schultmc [i=schultmc@nat/progeny/x-a12ce0152545077c] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:00] AnAnt, dapper had -386 and -686, but the performance difference between these two was found to be negligible, so edgy+ has -generic for both these, iirc === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:00] AnAnt, in any case, that is a question for #ubuntu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AnAnt [n=anant@81.10.9.182] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:07] lastnode: I thought it was -386 and -generic === TMM [n=hp@ip5650d1ab.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:09] StevenK, ok, i stand corrected then. [02:09] so -generic encompasses -686 -k7 etc? [02:09] Yes, I think so. [02:09] -generic is also now replaces -amd64-generic [02:10] right [02:11] lastnode: Yeah, 4 kernels, -386, -generic, -server and -server-bigiron [02:11] there we go === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kristog [n=kristog@energ63.energ.polimi.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-37-129.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@220.192.131.52] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tortoise_ [n=tortoise@194.164.140.64] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@danube.mems.rice.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous [n=dous@ubuntu/member/dous] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AnAnt [n=anant@81.10.9.182] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@ubuntu/member/sistpoty] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:05] hi folks [03:06] lionelp: softbeep_0.3-15 is in Debian now [03:06] huhu sistpoty === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-37-129.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [03:06] hi siretart [03:07] sistpoty: how are you? how are things going? [03:07] siretart: I'm fine, thx... have my last exam on wednesday :) [03:07] siretart: how about you? [03:07]