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boinkicecast2 supports ogg and mp3, no problem12:01
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Buglousewell i need to stream mp3 so that doesn't really affect me12:01
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boinkI'm not sure of the status of the darkice .deb on ubuntu12:02
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boinkI don't know if mp3 support is included12:02
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boinkotherwise, you may need to compile it yourself with the lame libraries12:02
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RobHurcmiv: http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/bz/bz_proc.htm12:02
Buglouseit is for me... all the fourms and faq and help sections have lead me to believe that as long as i have lame installed to begin with then streaming mp3 files to a shoutcast server will be no prob12:02
cbI have flash installed. In fact, I have no trouble with google video. But sites like www.spiketv.com won't let me in! That site says I have no flash. Any help?12:02
RobHurcmiv: So I'm guessing no12:03
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boinkis lame an ubuntu .deb?12:03
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Ronzhey yall...ive been having problems with my nvidia drivers. got everything installed, changed my xorg.conf file, and whenever the "nvidia" driver is loaded, it sticks on a black screen and doesn't go anywhere. anyone have an idea?12:03
Buglouserpm12:03
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boinkrpm? that isn't ubuntu12:03
LSD`boink: probably not12:03
Buglouseio know12:03
LSD`boink: rpm is red hat12:03
boinkthus, the darkice .deb may not have mp3 support in it.12:04
temperedcan I play World oF Warcraft on Ubuntu?12:04
Ronztempered, yes12:04
Buglouseboink: Lame is installed using Synaptic12:04
Nicoleguys, are you mad at me???Do you know a msn to ue microphone an web cam12:04
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`blinkapt-get install world_of_warcraft12:04
`blink:)12:04
boinkheh12:04
LSD`Nicole: amsn12:04
Ronzlol12:04
temperedheh, that'd be nice12:04
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RobHurcmiv: Core 2 Duo's use socket LGA775, that motherboard is a socket mPGA478. So the chip wouldn't even fit, much less work :S12:04
Ronztempered, in order to get WoW working, you need to install wine12:05
`blinknope12:05
`blinkthere is a wow under linux12:05
RonzNicole, what are you trying to do?12:05
temperedisn't there a commercial version of wine?12:05
RobHutempered: Cedega12:05
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Ronz`blink, are you sure? bliz never released a linux version of wow to my knowledge...12:05
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LSD`wow is supposed to work under the normal wine too12:06
`blinkw812:06
RobHurcmiv: That motherboard was desiged for a chip that came out 3 years ago. The Core 2 Duo wasn't even a research prototype at that point.12:06
`blinki will check on my wow box12:06
Buglouseboink: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/29235/?highlight=12:06
Nicoleronz: I have some friends, they have windows, and I wanna talk to them , look I gotta microphone and the cam, (can wait) but I wanna talk12:06
rcmivRobHu, thanks for the link12:06
RobHurcmiv: np12:06
temperedCan you use Cedega/wine for stuff like printers and scanners if they won't work under Linux drivers?12:06
rcmivmy hopes are dashed12:06
RonzNicole, what chat client are they using?12:06
Buglouseboink: i believe that that fourm should help me... but i cant read it qq12:07
RobHurcmiv: I found this all out from the wikipedia entries on Core 2 Duo, and Pentium 412:07
LSD`RobHu: the 865 (and probably 875) can support C2D tho apparently12:07
RobHurcmiv: and that page12:07
RobHuLSD`: You're talking about chipset support though aren't you? His mobo is not physically compatible.12:07
RobHuOr rather the socket isn't.12:07
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RonzNicole, is it MSN your trying to use?12:07
RobHurcmiv: Why do you need that particular board to be supported?12:08
tuxtuxnotte a tutti12:08
RobHurcmiv: Is that what you have?12:08
LSD`RobHu: yeah, the chipset itself will support it though unless they give it an LGA775 socket it won't fit12:08
rcmivRobHu, yep12:08
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RobHuLSD`: Yeah, that was the point I was making.12:08
ashzillaHi friends. I just got an error in Azureus that states Java 1.4.2 is not compatible with my version of Azureus12:08
rcmivRobHu, the P4 3.2 runs _hot_. I hate it12:08
ashzillaHow can I update java?12:08
LSD`RobHu: that's the prescotts for you12:09
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LSD`rcmiv I meant, stupid completeion12:09
rcmivLSD, yep12:09
Nicoleronz, I tried, amsn, gaim, kopete and kmess12:09
rcmivLSD, bad design, that12:09
RobHurcmiv: What about a Pentium D?12:09
Nicoleronz, got nothing12:09
LSD`rcmiv: the P4 in general was a bad design, the prescott was just a particularly bad revision12:10
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b03ntoashzilla, maybe u can d/w java bin ur self ?12:10
kuiperhow do i inmount a smbmount share?12:10
RonzNicole, let me see if i can get on MSN via gaim12:10
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rcmivRobHu, will research, thanks12:10
LSD`kuiper: umount /mount/point like any other12:10
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kuiperLSD' thank u12:10
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LSD`rcmiv: you'll have to replace the mobo but the Core 2 Duos are the way to go12:11
RobHurcmiv: You can get a Core 2 Duo compatible mobo for 45 dollars (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813185086) ... I assume you are american12:11
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Nicoleronz, I can use all of 'em , but I wanna listen and talk with my nice voice, u knw what i mean12:11
Ronzhey Nicole, i just used gAIM and got on msn. when you added the account, did you pick the drop down box for msn?12:11
RonzNicole, i know what you mean. have you tried jabber by chance?12:11
rcmivProbably will drop a new mobo and go c2d, yes I'm in the u.s.12:12
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LSD`lol, jabber's a solution looking for a problem12:12
Nicoleronz, what's jabber12:12
LSD`RobHu: PC Chips? ugh...12:12
RobHurcmiv: Core 2 is a fantastic chip, I have a Pentium D 805 which is the gen before12:12
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RonzNicole, its also another client. i haven't messed with it, but its worth a try. =)12:12
RobHurcmiv: More than enough for me though - I don't really see why most users need dual core12:12
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RobHuLSD`: Agreed, but I just wanted to show how cheap a mobo would cost, and I assume from his question that he wants to spend as little as possible :P12:13
keegan_!restricted12:13
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:13
RobHuNow before I wander off does anyone have any idea how to stop my screen blanking?12:13
ashzillaWhat package file should I install to have the most updated java version.12:13
LSD`RobHu: Still, PC CHips...12:13
anon32ashzilla, libgcj I think..12:13
RobHurcmiv: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?SrchInDesc=core&Page=1&Category=20&Nty=1&N=2010200280&Submit=ENE&Subcategory=28012:14
RobHurcmiv: You might also want to search for 775...12:14
ashzilla!java12:14
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository12:14
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nominVideoDownloader  https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2390/12:14
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ashzillaFuck. 80MB just for the java runtime environemnt.12:15
ashzillaD:12:15
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johny5Anyone know of any good native linux dictation utilities?12:15
anon32ashzilla, language and that's dependencies, right?12:15
RobHuashzilla: It /is Java/ :-) Imagine how little memory you'll have soon :-P12:15
joejaxx!language12:15
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.12:15
kuiperLSD' thanks with that my small shitty media center box is complete!12:15
ashzillaRobHu: hahahahahhah, I'm a CS student at UCI, and all we've worked with the first 2 years is java/scheme12:16
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ashzillaEveryone always bashes java... I'm a novice myself, so I just follow the bandwagon :D12:16
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kuiperexit12:17
LSD`kuiper: np12:17
youserhey guys12:17
RobHuashzilla: It is something of a beast http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/gp4/benchmark.php?test=all&lang=all&calc=Calculate&xfullcpu=0&xmem=1&xloc=0&binarytrees=1&chameneos=1&message=1&fannkuch=1&fasta=1&knucleotide=1&mandelbrot=1&nbody=1&nsieve=1&nsievebits=1&partialsums=1&pidigits=1&recursive=1&regexdna=1&revcomp=1&spectralnorm=1&hello=0&sumcol=112:17
youseri cant get ctcp xdcc send commands to work in gnome xchat or lostirc12:17
rcmivCore 212:17
RobHuashzilla: Java is a great language, but it has certain drawbacks - memory usage is probably the main one.12:17
youseranyonek now o a real good irc client for ubuntu that i can download stuff with ctcp12:18
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LSD`youser: irssi :P12:18
b03ntois it really 80 MB, thats huge...12:18
zenityouser: those commands should work in any client12:18
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youserhmm12:18
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loper06speaking about java. whats an alternative torrent client that manages multiple torrents as an alt. to azerues.12:19
LSD`loper06: rtorrent12:19
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johny5loper06, freeloader12:19
jester45loper06: or ktorrent12:19
ashzillaRobHu: So C and C++ are both languages that leave more efficient memory footprints?12:19
LSD`loper06: it's text mode, you just put it in a screen session and let it do its thing in the bg12:19
Xavier101azureuas is still the best on features12:19
Xavier101ktorrent is pretty good as well12:20
jester45loper06: or ctorrent (cui)12:20
LSD`Xavier101: tru dat12:20
loper06what has the lowest memory footprint btw12:20
loper06and is gui12:20
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jester45loper06: i say ctorrent12:20
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jester45o ctorrent is cui12:20
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ashzillaI wish they'd port Utorrent to the Unixes12:20
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loper06thx12:21
LSD`I'd use Az over utorrent depsite the java fottprint12:21
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ashzillajester45: by cui do you mean cli?12:21
LSD`I can't stand the way utorrent manages it's queue12:21
jester45i would use utorrent over az becuaSE i know utorrent very well12:21
jester45ashzilla: yea sorry12:21
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Jei61XHello all - Question!12:22
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joejaxx!ask12:22
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:22
jester45LSD`: you just have to set it up good12:22
joejaxxjester45: what is your question :)12:22
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THX-1138jester45 - Did you know there is a game hidden inside utorrent?12:22
youseris there any chan onthis serverwheni coulddownload a file through ctcp?12:22
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THX-1138Tetris12:22
jester45LSD`: hint hint advanced options12:23
jester45joejaxx: no i didnt12:23
joejaxxjester45: ?12:23
Jei61XI am going to need Ubuntu-compatible drivers for an NVidia graphics card and a SoundBlaster X-Fi sound card - where should I be looking?12:23
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SAM_themanyo hommies12:23
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THX-1138!soundblaster12:23
ubotusoundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth12:23
jester45joejaxx: i didnt know there was a hiddin game12:23
LSD`jester45: been there, done that, no "move to top" or "move to bottom" options. in fact, the ability to move torrents around at all seems to have disappeared in the latest version. The buttons are still there thye just don't work12:23
nomin"Download videos from Youtube, Google, Metacafe, iFilm, Dailymotion, Pornotube... and other 60+ video sites ! And all embedded objects on a webpage (movies, mp3s, flash, quicktime, etc) ! Directly !12:24
nomin"   VideoDownloader:  https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2390/12:24
nominthat's a good plugin for anyone that's interested12:24
joejaxx!ops12:24
ubotuHelp! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!12:24
Seveasjoejaxx, ?12:24
joejaxxSeveas: spamming12:24
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ged_anyone know why "aplay -D default /usr/share/firefox/res/samples/test.wav" would work but aplay -D hw:0,0 /usr/share/firefox/res/samples/test.wav"12:24
ashzillaso I just downloaded the most recent Java runtime enviroment package, but Azureus still states it is not compatable with java 1.4.2, what am I doing wrong?12:24
Seveassaw it, thanks!12:24
joejaxxSeveas: you are most welcome12:24
ged_would not?12:24
Jei61XI was afraid of that... Mine's not supported, just yet12:24
Jei61XAs for the video card?12:25
host1lightning--12:25
THX-1138Jei61X:  > nvidia12:25
jester45anyone here want to teach (or write for) me a shell script to load a few diffrent things at once12:25
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Jei61Xmeaning they make their own drivers... *headdesk*12:26
ashzillaso I just downloaded the most recent Java runtime enviroment package, but Azureus still states it is not compatable with java 1.4.2, what am I doing wrong?12:26
jribjester45: thing1; thing2; thing3; ...12:26
jester45jrib: i dont know anything about shell scripting12:26
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jribjester45: that's it12:26
LSD`thing1 && thing2 && thing3 might be better as && causes it to bomb out if there's an error12:27
host1ashzilla, does apt not automatically recomend the needed packages?12:27
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THX-1138Jei61X: nvidia-glx - will give you accesleration. - adding  "option" "RenderAccel" "true" will i think make it faster12:27
ashzillahost1: No, it doesn't.12:27
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__mikemHey seveas, as much as I hate spammers, I think I just might use nomin's plugin, it looks like I might be able to use it12:27
host1which ubuntu you using?12:27
Jei61XFantastic!12:27
ashzillahost1: I just used the package suggested by !java and restarted Azureus.12:27
ashzillahost1: Yet it still says it is not compatible with Azurues (java 1.4.2)12:28
THX-1138Jei61X: add it justinside and  below the card description12:28
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jribjester45: here, try this on your command line:   firefox; gaim12:28
host1ashzilla: which ubuntu you using?12:28
netster403This is an urgent message:  Adc-elites, a popular fansub for OnePiece is urgently looking for a new translator, for more information see http://www.adc-heaven.com .  ThankYa ;)12:28
ashzillahost1: dapper12:28
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Jei61XThanks for the help!12:28
ClayGanyone here use a motorola router? and can tell me how to reset it to factory settings from buttons on the outside?12:28
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jester45so do this as an example firefox && azureus && thunderbird && gaim && xfmedia12:28
host1oops12:29
ClayGi lost the password12:29
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ashzillaEwwww. People who "like to be different" aren't different at all; there's a slew of people who like to be different.12:29
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jester45true true12:29
ashzillaPeople who know what they like are not afraid to honestly express themselves are different.12:30
host1who's the conformist, the people that are different to be different, or the everyday person considered the conformist?12:30
jester45the only way to be diffrent is to be the same12:30
ZarephathAnyone in here have mouse trouble in edgy? I know there is a channel for this...they didn't respond12:30
host1the only thing that is constant is change12:30
RobHuashzilla: Mmm... these benchmarks show the results with the best implementations for those problems that people have submitted. It is reasonable to assume therefore that the answer to your question is yes.12:30
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LSD`Zarephath: I'll let you know when my upgrade is done :P12:31
ashzillaRobHu: I like your logic. Woot.12:31
ashzillaSo Ubuntu kiddies12:31
RobHuashzilla: Heh12:31
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ashzillaWhat Java package do I need to update to get Azureus working.12:31
youseri liketo be me12:31
Homerhow do I compile the gnu compiler12:31
RobHuashzilla: Java has several disadvantages but added to those is the problem that the virtual machine requires a lot of memory. Hence "Hello world" will use several MB.12:31
Homerif I don't have the compiler to compile with12:31
SeveasHomer, with a compiled version of itself12:32
hobbesmasterHomer: do you just want to install it?12:32
Homerdid gcc compile itself?12:32
RobHuHomer: (the first 'compilers' were compiled by hand)12:32
RobHuHomer: (this is called bootstrapping)12:32
__mikemHey Seveas, as much as I hate spammers, I think I am going to use that guys video plugin12:32
Seveas__mikem, feel free to do so ;)12:32
youserim feelin pretty synaptic today12:32
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ashzillaSeveas: Do you know what java package I would need updated to fix Azureus? It states it is not compatable with Java 1.4.212:33
youserget java 1.512:33
youserthats just a suggestion12:33
ashzillayouser: what package is that?12:33
SeveasAshex, sun-java5-jre12:33
youseri have no supporting information to tell you get 1.512:33
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youserbesides that i have it12:33
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youserhey what the f is irssi anyways/12:34
youserubuntu says i have it installed12:34
youserbut i dont sees i12:34
youserit12:34
ashzillaAlright, so apparently no one wants to tell me. I'll just resort to using machines.12:34
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ashzilla(google)12:34
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youserashzilla ubuntuforums.org12:35
youserthat place kicks ass u fcan find almost any ubuntu help you need12:35
lakioI'm somewhat new to ubuntu. I have intellij IDEA in my /home/username/apps/idea-5755/bin/idea.sh ----when I create an alacarte menu item here, it doesn't run. what gives??12:35
jribyouser: irssi runs in your terminal12:35
youserso itsnot an irc client/12:35
youser?12:35
jribyouser: yes, it is an irc client12:35
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youserdoes it run alone/12:36
jribyouser: yes?12:36
youseror i do i need "sarge"?12:36
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ZarephathLSD': If you do have mouse issues reboot into the dapper kernel....then you can update...I just did this and saw a update to xorg-input-mouse12:36
jribyouser: I don't know what you mean12:36
youserhmm12:36
youseri cant find this myster irc client12:36
ZarephathLSD': Plus my mouse worked ;-P12:37
jribyouser: type 'irssi' in a terminal12:37
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Tussiushey all12:37
LSD`Zarephath: I'm still knee-depp in the dist-upgrade12:37
Tussiusis it normal for firefox to be slower on ubuntu than on windows?12:37
youserlolthaks dude12:37
yousernever thought of that12:37
youserduh12:37
youserim an idiot12:37
jribyouser: http://myfiles.neu.edu/ribeiro.j/public/Screenshot-%7E.png12:37
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joejaxxTussius: which version12:38
ZarephathLSD': Bummer...I heard there are issues doing a manual edit of the repos...then doing dist-upgrade..good luck!12:38
Tussiusjoejaxx: The newest (6.0.6, also updated firefox)12:38
totall_6_7Tussius: i have found firefox to be faster on ubuntu than on windows12:38
youserwow this manual setup stuff is krazy12:38
LSD`Zarephath: I'll see when I get there12:38
jribyouser: irssi.org has good docs to get started12:38
Zarephathtotall: I have found windows to run faster in vmware :-O12:39
Ronzhey yall, ive been having a time getting nvidia drivers to work...all it will do is load up, and stick at a black screen. nayone have an idea?12:39
lakioanyone?12:39
youserhttp://irssi.org/documentation/startup#c1think ve foudn them now12:39
joejaxxTussius: the newer one is faster12:39
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joejaxxTussius: the other thing is what are youreffering too when you are talking about "faster"12:39
Tussiusjoejaxx: but the actual browser is normal, but it takes a long time to load non-cached sites12:39
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joejaxxTussius: make sure your firefox settings are the same for both12:40
joejaxxand then test it12:40
TussiusI deleted windows :p12:40
joejaxxTussius: haha well nevermind then12:40
srafxcan anyone help with a dual head ati big desktop?..running into weird problems..but so close12:40
youserany good irc clients that you dont have to do everything through code/12:40
Ronznvidia drivers...anyone, anyone?12:40
LSD`youser: nope :P12:40
Ronzyouser, xchat12:40
youserlol12:40
youserim on xchat12:41
LSD`Ronz: xchat's dodgy :P12:41
TussiusI also get "splash error" when I try to run a java program with sunjava (same program worked fine in windows)12:41
youseri just wanna ctcp properly12:41
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ashzillawhat is the . and .. that ls -hag returns in every folder?12:41
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joejaxx!tell Ronz about nvidia12:41
youserbtw this galeon web browser kicks ass12:42
youserno problems with javaor flash as mozilla gave me12:42
LSD`youser: you realise it's just a front to mozilla/firefox ;)12:42
Ronzjoejaxx, been through that one. i have tried every wiki that google comes up with12:42
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youseri dunno man12:42
joejaxxRonz: :\12:42
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youserbut it seems to work better than mozilla12:42
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ashzillaWHAT THE HECK!12:43
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srafxanyone using big desktop on a dual head ati card?12:43
LSD`youser: it plugs into the rendering engine12:43
fluxinatoryouser its mozila based12:43
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yousercool12:43
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LSD`youser: try removing mozilla and/or firefox and ten bucks says you'll see galeonin the list of stuff it wants to remove12:43
yousermust be my script blocker giving me unseen flash and java problems12:43
ZarephathAnyone know how to fix the error message in edgy that says it can't find icon evolution 2.6?12:43
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ZarephathNevermind...got it..12:44
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youserwell im off to find more techno to download off irc12:45
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maxLFcan someone send me to the current howto for installing and running world of warcraft?12:45
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Tru7hWhen I try to sign onto MSN using Gaim, the window closes immediately after logging in.12:46
Tru7hCan anybody help?12:46
NormalIs there a reason that I can only use 2.6.12-9-386, as 2.6.15* always freeze when loading kernel..?12:46
fluxinatorTru7h see the gaim website12:46
youserBEEP packetnews12:46
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maxLF!Wow12:47
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php12:47
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youserman has anyone ever won at connect 4 against ubuntu?12:47
maxLFyouser I ahve12:48
Normalhow bout this: Where can I download the 2.6.12-9-386 header files?12:48
maxLF!world of warcraft12:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about world of warcraft - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:48
youserseriously/12:48
maxLF:/ Anyone know how to install world of warcraft in ubuntu???12:48
youserthat game is ridiculously hard evenon level 112:48
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maxLF:/ Anyone know how to install world of warcraft in ubuntu???12:49
hobbesmastermaxLF - hand transgaming $15 and ask them :)12:49
maxLFtransgaming?12:49
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fluxinatorTru7h beta 3 fixes the msn issue. Compile it12:50
Tussiushm, FF is really fast, but the net seems slower than on windows :/12:50
maxLFhobbesmaster -  doesn't cedega have a monthly fee?12:50
Tru7hfluxinator: I'll do that.12:50
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ChocoCidno, that's just for support12:50
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ChocoCidyou can pay it one-shot, install cedega and whatever, and there you go12:50
mumbleslaptopok is there a other option that tells ubuntu to install ?12:50
ruhow to start svn server in ubuntu ?12:50
joejaxx!svn12:51
ubotusvn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/12:51
joejaxxru there is not a service for it?12:51
joejaxxin the list?12:51
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runo..12:51
youserman i have fun with linux spending a day trying to do something id do normally in 5minutes on windows12:52
rubut subversion package installed12:52
youserits an adventure12:52
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Zoffix!compiz12:52
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems12:52
SinnerGI get this error on ubuntu => "rndc: connection to remote host closed"12:53
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ruand how to delete servives which i already deleted throught synaptic from services list?12:53
youserfor soe reason my xchat wont receive file transfers?12:54
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fluxinatorfirewalled?12:54
youserah yes12:54
youseri use firestarter12:54
youserhow can i set up irc round that?12:55
mumbleslaptop!boot12:55
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto12:55
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fluxinatorpolicy12:55
youseri keep gettignhit fom unknown connections including from 127.0.0.1 while im alreadyconnected12:56
youserhence the firewall12:56
fluxinatorgo to the policy tab12:56
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kitcheyouser: well you will setup a policy for iptables since firestarter is just a frontend to iptables in reality12:56
zachhalehow do i upgrade my kernel?12:56
kitcheyouser: well 127.0.0.1 is your own machine12:56
fluxinatorallow service, port 666712:56
LjLzachhale: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" should do, if there's a newer kernel available12:57
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mumbleslaptopok i need to force ubuntu to install12:57
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Ronzhey, the nvidia drivers on my computer seem to be broken. ive gone through every tutorial, installed nvidia-glx, changed my xorg.conf file, and when i load it up...the screen stays black and doesn't load. has anyone heard of the black screen problem?12:57
youseryeah but i shouldnt have 2 instances of 127.0.0.112:57
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fluxinatorkitche then what would he use to configure iptables?12:57
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kitchefluxinator: he can use firestarter as I said it's just a frontend to iptables12:58
mumbleslaptop.g ubuntu force install12:58
mumbleslaptopoh bot dosent do that12:58
youseri addedto my policies12:59
youserit did try to receive this time12:59
youserthough it failed12:59
kitcheRonz: pastebin your Xorg.0.log file it's in /var/log12:59
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youserasirc always does12:59
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zachhaleLjL: know if there's a way to upgrade to a 2.6.18 kernel?01:01
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LjLzachhale: not one officially supported by Ubuntu. you could certainly just go and compile your own... or possibly you might find a pre-built unofficial .deb if you google a bit. i wouldn't do that, but...01:02
ks1does anyone know what happened to the developement forum?01:02
zachhaleLjL: okay thanks for the info01:02
Ronzkitche, the error i was getting was "failed to load nvidia kernel module"01:02
kitcheRonz: ah ok try sudo modprobe nvidia see if that helps01:03
mumbleslaptopok - last go before i give up with linux on my desktop01:03
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Ronzok, hold on01:03
kitchemubleslaptop what's wrong exactly?01:03
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mumbleslaptopone sec booting it up again01:03
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mumbleslaptopi had a copy of ubuntu installed but then widnows fucked up - after a reinstall of windows i went to install ubuntu01:04
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DBOmumbleslaptop, please dont swear01:04
yarddog!language01:05
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.01:05
mumbleslaptopi click on the install on the desktop version and it gets to starting enterprise voluem managment system01:05
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mumbleslaptopthen i get buffer io errer on device dm-1 logical block blah01:05
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mumbleslaptopand ata1 anslated ata stat/err01:05
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mumbleslaptopwich i assume is the hdds01:06
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lakioany idea how I can add intellij to the menu with alacarte?01:06
erickmHello room, does anyone know of a N64 emulator for 64 bit architecture? Mupen64 does not open and I've tried win32 emulators under wine but that was a joke. :/01:06
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mumbleslaptopth live cd crashes at that point as well01:06
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mumbleslaptopand knoppix crashes when i try and use qtparted01:07
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mumbleslaptopany help would be much apprechated01:07
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mike__hello im a newbie and i need help01:08
kitchemumbleslaptop you using the livecd?01:08
mumbleslaptopi have done in the past01:08
mike__my sound is gone all of a sudden01:08
mumbleslaptopthis one was the 6.0.6 desktop version01:08
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mike__i was tryiong to switch my sound devices and now i dont have any at all01:09
mike__sound*01:09
mike__any suggestions?01:09
kitchemike__: try in a console sudo alsaconfig01:09
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mike__ok thx01:09
RopechoborraA program to make .gif's ??01:09
mumbleslaptopcreentley trying knoppix live cd 5.0 couse i havent got a working ubuntu one01:10
Dr_willisRopechoborra,  lots of them can.. .or you can convert images to givs01:10
Dr_willisRopechoborra,  try the GIMP01:10
mike__sudo: alsaconfig: command not found01:10
mike__:/01:10
RopechoborraBut... i want to make a secuence of images..01:10
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mike__kitche: sudo: alsaconfig: command not found01:10
kitchemike__: sorry it's alsaconf01:11
mike__oh01:11
Dr_willisI do belive gimp has a animation feature.. never used it however.01:11
RopechoborraDr_willis how can i do (with gimp) to make a secuence of images?01:11
fooerr, how can I bunzip2 a file? bzip2 file.bz2 dir/* doesn't seem to work and I can't seem to find it in the man page, gah01:11
Dr_willis!info unz01:11
ubotuPackage unz does not exist in any distro I know01:11
mike__kitche: thats not found either01:11
mumbleslaptopkitche,  knoppix live cd messes up as well01:11
Dr_willis!info unp01:11
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ubotuunp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (dapper), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB01:11
kitchemike__: ok it seems like you don't have alsa installed so it must be oss your mixer sees no sound devices?01:12
Dr_willisfoo,  try bunzip2?01:12
fooDr_willis: Same command? bzip2 is the same thing, I think01:12
mike__no it sees them. it was working earlier today01:12
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Dr_willisfoo,  it defaults ot useing the extract option i belive01:12
kitchemike__: see if anything is muted01:12
ashzillaOkay, so I've followed the instructions and just made a deb of the most recent java runtime enviroment update yet Azureus still says java is running 1.4.201:12
ashzillaWhat the heck do I do to get this working!01:12
fooDr_willis: right... I want to compress.. the man page either sucks or I can't find it for the life of me01:13
mike__kitche: nothings muted01:13
mike__at least i dont think01:13
mike__im looking in volume control.. is tha tright (newb)01:13
kitchefoo it's bzip2 -z <filenames>01:13
fookitche: gah, thanks01:14
Dr_willis-z --compress       force compression01:14
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Dr_willisIf invoked as `bzip2', default action is to compress. as `bunzip2',  default action is to decompress.01:14
mumbleslaptopok google dosent help me01:14
youserif only they made propellerheads reason for linux i could delete windows01:14
mister_robotoashzilla: did you run update-java-alternatives?01:14
elite_hackerI'm using an IBM thinkpad and the video is kind of choppy when I try to play movies in X, but movies play just fine when I boot into windows.  What do I need to do to fix this?01:15
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mumbleslaptopkitche,  any ideas ?01:16
SourcemageHi all, I'm in the middle of installing ubuntu (my first distribution) and was wondering how to setup my swap partition?01:16
Sourcemagei read it's supposed to be approx double the ram but not above 500mb ?01:16
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Sourcemagebut i have 768mb ram soo ...01:16
host1how do you connect without using dhc?01:16
ashzillamister_roboto: no01:16
Nicolepla hlp me His pls I need help, I installed mercury msn , but I can't open it , 'cos I get a fatal error01:16
fookitche: hm, bzip2 -z tothisfile.bz2 thisdir/ throws an error. strange01:16
host1I want to use a static IP01:16
ashzillamister_roboto: what do I need to do with update-java-alternatives01:17
mumbleslaptopuh oh  i think i just lost my backup disks01:17
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mister_robotoashzilla: that will rewrite some soft links so that when you run java stuff, it will run the jvm of your choice01:17
tonyyarussoThere be some black magic going on here...N-M shows no network connected, but I have internet access...01:17
mumbleslaptophdd01:17
kitchefoo: bzip2 can only do files not directories01:17
mike__kitche: nothings muted but i still have no sound01:17
jribSourcemage: 500 is fine, you probably won't end up using it much.  I have a gb with 512mb of ram and never use the swap so it's a waste01:17
mister_robotoashzilla: you need to run it01:17
fookitche: ahh, ok.01:17
ashzillamister_roboto: it gives me a usage, what should I enter to update to 1.501:17
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mister_robotoashzilla: i think you need to be root so "sudo update-java-alternatives"01:17
Sourcemagejrib how am i able to tell whether my system is using swap or not?01:17
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Dr_willis'free' command shows memory ussage01:18
jribSourcemage: free -m  for friendly numbers01:18
kitchemike__: well have you tried undoing what you did before?01:18
host1ashzilla: do you have all the right repositories set up?01:18
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ashzillamister_roboto: nope, still nothing, just gives me usage01:18
ashzillahost1: yes01:18
host1nvm01:18
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jribSourcemage: since this is your first distro, I don't know if you're somewhat familiar with the command line?01:19
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mister_robotoashzilla: use "-l" to list valid choices01:19
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mumbleslaptopnope i havent- but ubuntu just wont work on my desktop:(01:19
kitchemike__: since you said you tried chaning sound devices that's whne it started to do what it is doing now01:19
Nicolepls hlp me His pls I need help, I installed mercury msn , but I can't open it , 'cos I get a fatal error01:19
mister_robotoashzilla: then you use "-s <name" to set it  (I think... been a while)01:19
jribubotu: tell Nicole about repeat01:19
ixiani can't adjust brightness/contrast/etc of videos playing in totem since i installed the ati drivers ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto ).. any ideas how to fix this?01:19
Sourcemagejrib partially, only basics like rm, cd etc01:19
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mike__kitche: so how do i get it working again01:19
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jribSourcemage: yeah, free is just another command that gives you that info01:19
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mike__kitche: i dont think i did anything speciall... just changed the tabs in volume control01:20
ashzillamister_roboto: thanks, I think that did it01:20
raknami'm trying to log into a remote server using ssh, is there a way to login not as the user that i'm logged on as on my local machine?01:20
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jribraknam: ssh foo@bar01:20
kitchemike__: check to make sure everything is setup and the output is set right01:21
mike__kitche: some programs like amarok work but only in the ehadset but i want to change that01:21
ashzillawoot, thanks mister_roboto - that was it. :)01:21
jribraknam: where foo is your username01:21
Ronzforget who helped me before...but ran apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common, then changed nv to nvidia in xorg.conf. whenever it boots up, it gives me just a black screen. have any ideas?01:21
mister_robotoashzilla: great!01:21
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mike__kitche: how do i do that01:21
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elite_hackernobody knows how to make my video play right?01:21
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raknamjrib: and bar is just a command?01:21
Ronzelite_hacker, what type of video?01:21
jribraknam: bar is the server you are connecting to01:21
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kitchemike__: ok open up your mixer and does your mixer have green lights at the bottom since I don't know what desktop environment your using01:22
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raknamjrib: sweet, thanks01:22
elite_hackerRonz: any video i play is jerky01:22
jribraknam: I'll choose better fake variables next time :)01:22
mumbleslaptopok im goign to give up for the night01:22
Ronzelite_hacker, what are you using to play them?01:22
raknamjrib: haha yeah sorry i'm a little dense too01:22
mike__kbuntu: gnome. whats my mixer?01:22
mumbleslaptopand go to sleep01:22
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Sourcemagewas thanksgiving today or tomorrow?  : o01:22
elite_hackerRonz: vlc, mplayer01:22
mike__kitche: gnome...01:23
Monsucohello01:23
Ronzelite_hacker, i would try kaffeine + xine backend01:23
technelIn Open Office Writer, under Tools -> Options -> Language Settings -> Languages -> Default langs for documents "English (Canada)" is selected. So I click "English (USA)" from the drop down, click OK, restart Open Office, go there again, and it is switched back to Canada!! Why?01:23
MonsucoI am having issues with X01:23
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mike__kitche: i dont see any green lights01:23
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Ronzran apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common, then changed nv to nvidia in xorg.conf. whenever it boots up, it gives me just a black screen. have any ideas?01:23
mumbleslaptopSourcemage,  i was told today01:23
Monsucois there any form of safe mode for X?01:23
kitchemike__: yeah wasn't sure if gnome had that kind of mixer since KDE does have lights for what is active for sound01:24
mike__kitche: should i switch to kde?01:24
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ixianRonz, try changing it back to nv01:24
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Ronzixian, i have01:24
kitchemike__: no but I don't know much about gnome so I can't really help you out but your problem has to do with something in the mixer set wrong01:25
Ronzixian, thats how im running now. =) i want to get 3D acceleration up01:25
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DualCortex_guys anyone know how to set up a lan game, say for nibbles01:25
mike__kitche: it doesnt look like tehre is much to set in the gnome mixer (it says its alsa mixer...)01:25
kitchemike__: ah ok well I know about alsa mixer01:26
ixianRonz: , oh ok.. well im pretty sure there is more to installing the drivers than just downloading the package, which is why it didnt work. try searching for nvidia on the wiki01:26
ixianhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Home?action=show&redirect=FrontPage01:26
mike__kitche: what shall i try then? :)01:26
Ronzixian, thats the thing...ive been through 20+ wiki's today01:26
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MonsucoWhat happens is when I start, I get like these wierd lines all over my screen and it is like a bunch of desktops overlapping each other, I accedentally selected the wrong graphics driver, and that is the source of the problems, is there any sort of "safe mode" type thing for X so that I can go back and select the right driver01:26
youserman it takes hours to search through f servers on linux irc01:26
DualCortex_Anyone know how to set up a lan game, say for nibbles01:26
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kitchemike__: see if your pc speakers are all the way up and unmuted01:27
RonzMonsuco, you could boot in safe mode and change the graphics driver in the xorg.conf file01:27
Monsucohow do I do that01:27
gandolfthewizardhi all i am trying to get the plug in for yahoo can someone help please01:27
mike__kitche: yep they are01:27
lakiohow do I disable SELinux in ubuntu?01:28
ixianMonsuco: , you should see a 'recovery mode' option on the bootloader01:28
MonsucoI do, when I select it, I get a prompt01:28
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kitchemike__: well I can't figure out anything else since I never ran into that problem but it could be due to you have headset plugged in and you want to play though the speakers(some computers don't like two sound devices on at a same time)01:28
Monsuconow what? Is there a command I type in01:28
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frarocohello every body01:29
frarocoI wanna know how to change of server in IRC01:29
Zarephath!windows media01:29
SeanTaterwhat do you do for a file root can dir and see, but cannot even stat?01:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about windows media - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:29
mike__kitche: is there a way to switch between the two of them without running into problems like totall mutage?01:29
DualCortex_So noone knows how to set up a lan game for those preinstalled gnome games? ie nibbles01:29
kitchefraroco: yes type /server <server>01:30
ZarephathAnyone help..I need information on how to get movie player to play .wmv files...it errors on loading the file...I searched the wiki but no joy..01:30
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kitchemike__: umm yeah just unplug your headset at least that's what I do01:30
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avagantTa da~01:30
avagantI have a serious question, in need of some serious answers.01:31
Monsucoso what command do I type in once in recovery mode to go back to the old driver01:31
avagantHaha01:31
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jribubotu: tell Zarephath about wmv01:31
avagantActually it's not that serious, it's just a silly question really.01:31
[5D] Silent_Chaoshey guys, I'm trying to autostart my css server from /srcds and I'm having some trouble with getting it to auto-start01:31
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gandolfthewizardcan someone help me get the java plug in please01:31
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ixianMonsuco: probably something along the lines of sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:31
mike__kitche: is there a way i can wthout having to unplug it? the back of my computer isnt the most remote place01:31
avagantgandolfthewizard: www.ubuntuforums.org01:31
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avagantThey have answers to just about everything.01:32
avagantI still can't figure out my sound problems.01:32
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avagantBut at least I have sound.01:32
frarocothaks you01:32
frarocothanks you01:32
avagantHeck I just found out instead of going through all the crap to compile Nicotine+ they have a repository now.01:32
[5D] Silent_Chaosthe command to execute something is ./<name> right? How would I execute from a different directory?01:33
ixianMonsuco: then find the section labled "Section "Device"", and change the driver to whatever it was before01:33
asimismoI've got a Ubuntu machine I hope to use as an IMAP server. Would like to use a web client to access my accounts. Anyone know of a web e-mail client that can centralize multiple accounts?01:33
frarocoand how can I greet to all users whit a comand01:33
ixianMonsuco: then ctrl+X to save01:33
jribgandolfthewizard: do you want me to help you with java?01:33
Monsucook01:33
TIMo0-ok01:33
GoldKeeperhas anybody had a bad edgy break ?01:33
avagantHey if I get rid of a deb package even though I already have the deb installed will it ruin what I have installed?01:33
TIMo0-whats up01:33
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TIMo0-yess01:34
avagantI need to free up some room for more useless packages.01:34
DualCortex_So noone knows how to set up a lan game for those preinstalled gnome games? ie nibbles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1101:34
LuisMendesHi, I want to know if it is necessary to install a firewall, like Firestarter?01:34
jribgandolfthewizard: you need to post the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file for us to help you.  Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us the url to your post01:34
DualCortex_no01:34
[5D] Silent_Chaosthe firewall exists already01:34
jrib!firewall01:34
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)01:34
avagantjrib: Why can't they just go on the forums? Haha01:35
avagant!ubuntuforums01:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuforums - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:35
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avagantGood afternoon/evening/morning holycow.01:35
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holycowallo01:36
avagantholy i have a question about my panels.01:36
holycowhappy turkeys to all01:36
holycowavagant, sure wots that?01:36
avagantI don't know if you can answer it.01:36
holycowi'll try01:36
kitcheLuisMendes well firestarter isn't a firewall it's just a frontend to iptables which is the firewall01:36
avagantholycow: Well I set it to not expand so it becomes as big as whatever I have in it right?01:36
avagantholycow: But now, I can't get it to expand again so I can add more things, how do I do that?01:37
holycowavagant, correct01:37
LuisMendeskitche, oh I think I understand now! thanks, so it is not really necessary...01:37
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avagant!conky01:37
ubotuconky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 95 kB, installed size 316 kB01:37
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avagantIs there a "panels" option I can get to?01:37
holycowwhat do you mean 'panels option?'01:38
avagantWithout actually like if you right click the panel it gives you the option to edit it's properities.01:38
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holycowyou want to edit panel properties without right clicking on them?01:38
avagantIs there a way to do that without right clicking it, cause when I do it asks to change the properties of the little program buttons I put in there.01:38
avagantYes.01:38
holycowyou should be able to do tha tin gconf01:38
avagantgconf?01:39
avagantI know what gconf is, but how do I dare I ask "get" to it.01:39
kitcheLuisMendes: yeah you don't need it and iptables won't work until you configure it anyways01:39
holycowapplications / system / configuraiton editor01:39
avagantI don't have a system menu?01:39
holycowall gnome settings can be accesed from there01:39
holycowoh easy01:39
holycowalt / f201:39
holycowthe type in gconf01:39
LuisMendeskitche, so it is disabled by default?01:39
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avaganthmmm it said it couldn't be found maybe I don't have it.01:40
holycowsorry01:40
holycowgconf-editor01:40
holycowsearch for the right key to modify to get your panels back01:40
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[1] raknamone more quick ssh question, how do i start the ssh server in ubuntu?01:41
avagantAre they called panels in this?01:41
Dr_willis!ssh01:41
ubotussh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/01:41
avagantcause I can't find them. haha01:41
holycowyou can also delete your .gnome and .gnome2 dirs, log out and log back in.  that will delete all your settings, and they will be recreated to default once you log in01:41
holycowavagant, there is a search function01:41
[1] raknamdr_willis: gracias01:41
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DualCortex_Does anyone know how to use the gnome games' NETWORK game capabilities?01:42
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holycowits under apps / panel actually01:42
holycowin gconf01:42
b03nto!fluxbox01:42
ubotufluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox01:42
[5D] Silent_Chaosanyone know how to execute a binary from a different directory? I know that I can ./name to execute from within the directory, how would I execute using a full path?01:42
avagantHmm.01:42
DualCortex_!gnome01:42
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ubotugnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.01:42
avagantIt said "pairs and schemas cannot be edited"01:43
holycow[5D] Silent_Chaos, ~/anydirectoryhere01:43
holycowi said applications / panel not schemas / panel01:43
[5D] Silent_Chaosholycow ~/asdf/server.sh will execute?01:44
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holycow[5D] Silent_Chaos, if it is located there01:44
ashzilla!flash01:44
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:44
OmniD_Anyone use Tomboy know how to include a date stamp?01:44
holycow~/ just means /home/youraccount01:44
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DualCortex_!nibbles01:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nibbles - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:45
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id10t'lo all01:45
BuglouseWhat would you recommend using for streaming mp3 files over a Shoutcast server?01:45
OmniD_oh what was it called01:46
OmniD_icecast?01:46
OmniD_There was a good shoutcast alternative01:46
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OmniD_THAT I RECOMMEND01:46
id10tBuglouse, or use DSS and just feed the mp3s off local storage01:46
Buglousei tried useing DarkIce... but it is havening a problem finding the Lame codecs...01:46
kitcheLusiMendes well it runs but it doesn't do anything that I know of unless the devs have it set up a certain way by default01:46
OmniD_It wasn't DarkIce I don't think actually01:46
avagantHmm it didn't change.01:46
id10tVLC can do it too01:47
madewokherdthere's an icecast-server01:47
Buglousedarkice is compatible with Shoutcast.. icecast isn't01:47
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avagantUah there we go.01:47
OmniD_Right01:47
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DualCortex_Does anyone know how to use the gnome games' NETWORK game capabilities?01:47
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Parallaxhi, I have a broken pakage and dont know how to solve it01:48
[5D] Silent_Chaosholycow, ~/ only cds to things in my home directory01:48
b03nto!istanbul01:48
ubotuistanbul: Desktop session recorder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-3ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 65 kB, installed size 344 kB01:48
Parallaxhi, I have a broken pakage and don't know how to solve it01:48
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Buglouseid1ot: what is DSS? is it a plugin or what... all im finding is Distributed Security Service01:48
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Buglouseid10t: what is DSS? is it a plugin or what... all im finding is Distributed Security Service01:49
ebzeroErr can someone help me with a quick sound problem?01:49
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ebzeroHello?01:50
avagantI wish there was a way I could be the gconf-editor on the panel so that never happens again.01:50
avagantHaha01:50
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GigaClonhow can a stop a run-away process, killall doesn't seem to work01:51
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DualCortex_Does anyone know how to use the gnome games' NETWORK game capabilities?01:51
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ParallaxGigaClon: kill -9 <pid>01:51
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GigaClonhow do I get pid?01:51
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ebzeroDoes anyone know why somtimes i can here sound and somtimes i cant but i can always here the Gaim sound FX? Along with some videos. :/01:51
hantups aux01:51
Parallaxps aux01:52
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avagantps aux01:52
DualCortex_ps aux01:52
Parallaxhi, I have a broken pakage and don't know how to solve it01:52
madewokherdno one knows how to use gnome games to play network games01:52
avagantYou know what'd be awesome, if I could get sound to work for everything the right way.01:52
[5D] Silent_Chaosanyone know how to execute a binary from a different directory? I know that I can ./name to execute from within the directory, how would I execute using a full path?01:52
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ebzeroAvagany i hear you man :-/ its frusterating me really badly...01:53
DualCortex_madewoherd, i'm noticing that01:53
avagantI should be happy I got it to work at all, but if I'm watching youtube and listening to music, when one goes down, so goes the other.01:53
ebzeroExactluy01:53
Zarephathjrib: thanks01:53
ebzeroand the sound lag on Youtube is annoying :-(01:53
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avagantBut like I said I should be grateful, when I had Windows I didn't have sound at all.01:53
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avagantAnd couldn't figure out how to get it to work, I got sound right out of the box in Ubuntu.01:54
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ebzeroO.o i had windows and got a virus on it that fuxed everything up so i didnt know what to do and my comp didnt come with a windows cd dont feel like spening 200 bucks on a new cd :(01:54
ChocoCid!language01:54
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.01:54
avagantebzero: The worst part is, I had sound set up a way that I can do both comfortably and I had to reinstall Ubuntu again.01:54
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ebzerolol i had to reinstall ubuntu also but i had nothing on it so it was no big deal01:55
ebzeroAnyone here a sound specialist? lol01:55
avagantI've had to reinstall it 5 times.01:55
avagantHaha01:55
ebzerolol01:55
avagantIf anyone here deserves a "n00b" award it's me.01:56
ebzerolol im runner up then :-/01:56
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avagantHey when I open system monitor shouldn't alsa be one of the processes running?01:56
billavagent - lol - i thought we settled that. - my pic is still in webster's01:56
avagantHaha01:56
avagantIt's showing aRts instead of alsa, and I could have sworn I've seen alsa in the monitor before.01:57
ebzeroAvagent i dont have alsa running and i cant here anything01:57
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avagantThat could be 90 percent of my problem there, is there a way to make alsa "start"?01:57
ebzeroAvagent and to make things worse i still cant get my ATI RADEON 9250 working the right way...01:58
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host`how do I connect with a static IP?01:58
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sidny4anybody know how to test surround sound?01:58
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shidohow can i change the color of the fonts in ubuntu? for example...to white, in order to have a theme in black01:58
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host`!send to host` static IP01:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about send to host` static IP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:59
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ParallaxI have a broken pakage and don't know how to solve it02:00
host`!tell  host` static IP02:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tell  host` static IP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:00
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host`hmm02:00
host`!static IP02:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about static IP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:00
Sivikanyone here use a zen micro?02:00
otaku-sanN00b question. I'm trying to install Gnome on Kubuntu.  It's asking what display manager I want to use.  Should I stay with kdm or should I use gdm?  If I do use gdm will it mess with KDE?02:00
chrisntrHey :)02:00
ebzero!tell host` Sound problems02:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tell host` Sound problems - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:00
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Sivikotaku-san, it doesn't matter which one02:00
sidny4!alsa02:00
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems02:00
wheelswitchany one here use bittorrent alot?02:00
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chrisntrI'm having a few problems with 'rar' on Edgy :(02:00
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host`I'm not having the sound problems anyway02:00
otaku-sanSivik: Ok I'll stay with kdm02:00
avagantBut shouldn't alsa show up in system manager?02:00
wheelswitchby bitorrent i mean torrents,02:00
Sivikwheelswitch, what is the issue?02:01
otaku-sanSivik: Thanks alot02:01
jaymodewheelswitch: i do02:01
host`I wanting to know how to configure using a static IP02:01
Sivikhost`, like a router or just your computer?02:01
host`I want to connect to a router02:01
Sivikok, do you know the ip of the interface for the router02:02
host`yes02:02
sidny4you should really configure the router to assign a static IP to your mac address02:02
Sivikhost`, what kind of router is it02:02
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Siviksidny4, it may not be able to do that, depends on what sort of router it is02:02
host`it's not my router, I don't want to mess around with other peoples things too much, I'm leeching off it02:02
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sidny4Sivik, that's true02:02
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frarocowell I have the room of IRC how can I know what it is the server??02:02
Sivikhost`, sudo ifconfig ethx xx.xx.xx.xx02:02
shidowhy i can never change the font style or font size in the system?.... i change it but nothing happens02:02
jaymodemy nautilus/libgnome-vfs are crashing while doing file transfers over a network. After that I have to restart before i can browse computers on the network again. Is there a command so that I do not have to keep restarting?02:02
host`ok, ifconfig02:03
host`I'll remember that02:03
troughtonhi i am trying to set up a home network i have installed samba on both mashiens but how do i browse accross the network ??02:03
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SquatchQuick question.  Trying to get xvkbd & xbindkeys so that I can use all the buttons on my mouse, but when I "sudo apt-get install xvkbd xbindkeys" I get "Couldn't find package xvkbd"...  Any suggestions?02:03
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sidny4host` what are you trying to do?02:03
host`I need to have my ports forwarded02:03
SivikSquatch, try using apt-cache for that program02:03
Sivikhost`, what kind of router?02:03
host`linksys02:03
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SquatchSivik: Thanks, I'll look into that.02:03
Sivikhost`, thats rather easy, log into the router in your browser02:03
host`the router is set up, I just need to connect to it with the right IP02:03
SivikSquatch, apt-cache search02:04
sidny4host` you'll have to configure the router to forward those to your ip02:04
frarocowell I have the room of IRC how can I know what it is the server??02:04
host`that's already configured02:04
nex_does anyone know of a video converter for linux to turn .avi, divx, into .vob?02:04
Sivikhost`, well, the router should assign an ip, and then you just tell the router to forward to that ip address02:04
troughtonnex_ look at tovid02:04
Sivikthats a router end thing, not a client end thing02:04
sidny4ok, are you the only person using the router?02:04
host`no I'm not02:04
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nex_troughton, thanks02:05
Siviksidny4, how are you connecting to is, wired or wireless?02:05
troughtonnex_ look at tovid02:05
troughtonhi i am trying to set up a home network i have installed samba on both mashiens but how do i browse accross the network ??02:05
sidny4wireless02:05
avagantNow i can't hear sound in youtube at all.02:05
avagantSomebody!02:05
avagantAnybody!02:05
bruenigtovid is awful02:05
Siviktroughton, you have to be able to ping both mechines02:05
bruenigavagant, it is time you learned a little something about adobe flash 7 for linux....it sucks02:05
Siviktroughton, aka they have to have the same network portion of the ip02:05
sidny4host` you'll want to make the router assign your mac address the specific IP you want02:06
avagantNo but I had it working just last night.02:06
troughtonhave done Sivik02:06
Siviktroughton, both running linux?02:06
avagantIn fact I was listening to music AND watching youtube.02:06
sidny4otherwise if you request that ip and someone else has that ip neither one of you will get online02:06
SquatchSivik: When I search for xvkbd or xbindkeys, absolutely nothing pops up.02:06
avagantSo what's the deal here?02:06
SivikSquatch, then you don't have the correct repos opened02:06
avagantHOW DO YOU START ALSA02:06
troughtonyes Sivik02:06
LjL!caps02:06
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.02:06
mcphailnex_: there's a script called "any2dvd", but i haven't used it02:06
BuglouseI'm tring to find the package "DSS" it is supposed to be a media streamer... I can't seem to find it .. does anyone konw where i would be located?02:06
avagantYa ya I know, but it isn't even showing I "have" alsa.02:07
Siviktroughton, there shouldn't be a problem02:07
nex_mcphail, let me see02:07
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Siviktroughton, you should be able to pull both computers up in samba, thats what i do02:07
frarocowell I have the name-room of IRC how can I know what it is the server??02:07
troughtonthe network is not showing anyware how do i pull up the network in samba Sivik ??02:07
Monsucook, so I fixed X,  but how do I find the correct driver?02:08
avagantAlso how do I configure opera to use alsa or whatever?02:08
sidny4fraroco, what are you talking about?02:08
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Siviktroughton, working on it, i haven't used samba in a whle02:08
troughtonSivik i am new to samba i dont know how it works02:08
Sivikhow do i start samba from terminal02:08
NET||abusehey guys, how do i change what application opens a file type, like change my default movie player?02:08
sidny4!samba02:08
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT02:08
Siviksidny4, don't give me that crap02:09
sidny4haha02:09
NET||abusei right click on a movie file, properties, openwith, i have 3 selections,, but it won't change anything???02:09
Siviksidny4, i'm trying to start it from terminal and i can't remember how to do it02:09
avagant!alsa02:09
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems02:09
sidny4sorry, it's been awhile for samba too02:09
macsimahah02:09
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macsimahah02:09
Siviksidny4, i have it installed, but samba isn't a valid command02:09
macsimahah02:09
ebzeroAnyone know how to fix sound problems?02:09
macsimahah02:09
sidny4smbd?02:09
ebzeroHow come i can here Gaim sounds but not youtube sounds?02:10
sidny4Sivik, smbclient I think02:10
ebzeroLike earlier today i could hear all sounds I havnt messed with any configs.02:10
digip1mpI just popped a wireless card into my laptop's pcmcia slot... what do I have to do to get it working?02:10
Sivikok02:10
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MonsucoI have an intel graphics card, and I am not exactly sure how to set it up so that OpenGL will work, currently, anything that needs OpenGL doesnt seem to work well02:11
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frarocosidny4: see, I have #ubuntu but I do not know in which server do I have to conect by to enter at this room, for ejample..02:11
Sivikclient doesn't bring up a window02:11
Sivikfraroco, irc.freenode.net02:11
sidny4well, the server you're on is irc.freenode.net02:11
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SquatchHow do I add a repository so that apt-get can find xvkbd?02:12
Zer0Her0_is there a way to map control to the apple key on a mac keyboard02:12
Monsucois there a command that can tell me the particular model of my graphics card02:12
frarocosidny4: yeah I know this server but I have two namerooms more that I do not knor the server...02:12
bruenigSquatch, what is xvkbd?02:12
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Zer0Her0_and ctrl thing drives me batty02:12
frarocoSivik:  yeah I know this server but I have two namerooms more that I do not knor the server...02:12
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Squatchbruenig: Something I need along with xbindkeys to make my Forward and Back buttons on my mouse use Alt+Left & Alt+Right...02:13
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sidny4fraroco, what program are you using?02:13
frarocoxchat-genome02:13
sidny4ok, where does it list your channels? left or bottom?02:13
bruenigSquatch, I believe you only need xbindkeys for that, but if you want xvkbd, more power to you02:13
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Squatchbruenig: Well, just following some walkthroughs I found >_<...  No clue really what I'm doing with these.  Regardless, I can't get either package ATM.02:14
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thoreauputic!repos02:14
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource02:14
sidny4Sivik, so you want to start samba from the terminal that opens up a configuration window?02:14
bruenigSquatch, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-5bbef89639d9a7d93fe38f6356dc17847d37309602:15
Monsucohow do I find out what kind of graphics card I have02:15
Squatchyes?02:15
bruenigSquatch, you might also want to get xbindkeys-config, that gives you a nice graphical interface to configure xbindkeys02:15
frarocosidny4: xchat-genome02:16
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Squatchbruenig: Cool, I'll look into that as soon as I can figure out this repo mess...02:16
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bruenigSquatch, follow that link I just gave you to enable the extra repos02:16
bruenighttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-5bbef89639d9a7d93fe38f6356dc17847d37309602:16
sidny4fraroco, where are your channels listed02:16
sidny4left side, bottom...?02:17
thoreauputicMonsuco: lspci | grep -i VGA02:17
thoreauputicMonsuco: that should find it02:17
frarocohow where?02:17
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ixianwhat is a good video player for playing asf files? ive tried vlc, totem, and mplayer.. something always screws up (sound skips in vlc, crashes in totem and mplayer)02:17
bruenigtotem plays asf perfectly for me02:17
frarocosidny4: how where?02:18
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Monsucook02:18
PacketScani'm vond of mplayer02:18
Monsucothank you02:18
PacketScanfond even02:18
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frarocosidny4: did you mean where I get them?02:18
sidny4yeah02:18
ixianbruenig: well it used to play them fine for me too but it crashes since i installed video card drivers02:18
bruenigixian, you may need w32codecs for them since it is a windows media format02:18
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ixiani have that; :(02:18
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Squatchbruenig: Thanks a ton for all your help, searching through these pages ^_^.02:18
BuglouseI'm looking for a Plugin (for xmms, amarok, andy other media players) or stand alone progie that will allow me to stream mp3 content to a shoutcast server02:18
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bruenigixian, it wouldn't crash because of a video card. The program at least wouldn't crash02:19
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kitcheBuglouse: you need the shoutcast dj tools to do that02:19
loper06im getting this error when im trying to install vmware. anybody? "Unable to get the access rights of source file "./vmware-vix/bin".02:20
loper06"02:20
Psykushas anyone had any luck getting a netgear WG111v2 USB adapter working under ubuntu? i saw v1 on the wiki, no mention of v202:20
kitcheloper-6: are you sudoing?02:20
harisundHas anybody tried to dual boot a system with 2 Linuxes?02:21
Siviki'm having problems getting amarok seeing my zen micro02:21
loper06yes. im actually in root02:21
bruenigixian, also, don't know if this will help but asf is a container file, so could be a problem for whatever it is containing not asf itself02:21
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kitcheharisund: yes that is pretty easy to do really02:21
harisundkitche, ah! a positive suggestion. Good start, i would say. So how do I setup the boot partitions and the grub?02:21
loper06kitche: does the owner have to be root:root?02:22
Sivikloper06, you can change that02:22
harisundkitche, let's say I install Ubuntu first. All good. Now if I were to install, say, nexenta or gentoo, it will overwrite the mbr with its own grub right?02:22
loper06Sivik: why am i getting this error then?02:22
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Sivikloper06, what the error?02:22
loper06Unable to get the access rights of source file "./vmware-vix/bin".02:22
sethkharisund, all the distros have a "do you want to overwrite the mbr" confirmation question, but if you answer yes, then it usually will02:23
kitcheharisund: it might but ti should see ubuntu02:23
Sivikloper06: do a ls -al, it will tell you all the permissions for that file02:23
sethkharisund, however the MBR will be backed up first.02:23
Sivikand even if it does, it should pick up the kernel for ubuntu02:23
frarocosidny4: did you mean where I get them?02:23
harisundsethk, ok. So let's assume the MBR is overwritten by nexenta. Now I see the nexenta kernel and the Ubuntu kernel. Now I boot into UBuntu and install a new kernel. However Ubuntu doesn't know about nexenta kernel, right? What happens if it overwrites the MBR to reflect the new kernel?02:24
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godzirrahow do I reconfigure grub?  for some reason last time I booted into linux it took away my windows xp entry in the menu.list02:24
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sethkharisund, you are already wrong on sentence two02:24
Sivikharisund, but grub will fix it, grub is grub no matter who uses it02:24
Tussiushey02:24
sethkharisund, if it overwrites the grub in the MBR, it will use its own config file, and it will only see its own kernel02:24
SivikTussius, hi02:24
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Tussiushow do I go about to install an older version of java?02:24
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sethkgodzirra, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst02:24
loper06Sivik: ./vmware-vix/bin is not exist. however, ./bin does02:24
harisundSivik the /boot/grub/menu.lst file will have to be the same for both OS, right?02:24
harisundor atleast synchronized?02:24
sethkgodzirra, you can find how to boot windows in:      info grub02:24
Tussiusit seems the newest has problems with a java program I'm trying to run02:25
godzirrasethk: I dont know what to add. it automatically added it last time when I booted up the system.02:25
sethkharisund, no02:25
Sivikharisund, it should be correct no matter who uses it02:25
Sivikloper06, do you know where the vmware-vix/bin folder is?02:25
sethkgodzirra, it's in the info I referenced.  I can tell you if you know the partition where windows is running.02:25
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sethkgodzirra, where windows is installed, rather02:25
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harisundSivik, sethk .. let's say I share the /boot partition across both operating systems (I use only OS that have a grub, no Windows..) . Do you think that would be a good idea or no?02:25
kitcheharisund: anyways nexenta isn't a linux so it won't overwrite ubuntu's kernel if your worried about that02:25
godzirraI do.  its /dev/sda102:25
loper06Sivik: i assume in vmware-server-distrib02:25
Psykushas anyone had any luck getting a netgear WG111v2 USB adapter working under ubuntu? i saw v1 on the wiki, no mention of v2. suppose I could try it anyway, just throwing the driver into ndiswrapper, but i'm using windows on the system at the moment (laptop)02:26
harisundkitche, no I am not worried about any kernels being overwritten. I am worried about  a new menu.lst being created that doesn't show the other OS' kernel.02:26
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Sivikharisund, thats how i did it02:26
frarocosomebody how can I find the server of a room of irc??02:26
sethkharisund, that's exactly what will happen02:26
sethkharisund, the new menu.lst _will_ be created02:26
sethkharisund, and it _will_ have only the new OS02:26
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Sivikfraroco, this one is on irc.freenode.net02:27
sethkharisund, but you simply edit the file, and add the old one to it.02:27
Sivikfraroco, what do you mean02:27
harisundsethk ok that clears up things ;) ..02:27
harisundSivik that's how you did it? Means? how?02:27
frarocoSivik #Tuxteno no02:27
Sivikharisund, and even if it doesn't, its not that hard to edit that file and fix it02:27
kitcheharisund: grub will see the other distro automatically at least in my opinion it does02:27
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Sivikharisund, as long as you don't format the /boot partition, it should regonize all the kernels on there02:27
Sivikfraroco, are you connected to it02:27
harisundSivik, ah neat... thanks ..02:27
Sivikharisund, yw02:28
harisundthanks a bunch sethk too .. I am going to try then ..02:28
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kitcheharisund: sicne I installed grub from source and it seen my distro automatically without configuring it02:28
bsdfoxhey does nm-applet work with WPA? I only see WEP 128-bit Passphrase and WEP 64/128-bit Hex/ASCII02:28
frarocosivik now, well my big problem is that with firefox can not conect to it because I have problems whit java in firefox. so I wanna conect to it from xchat02:29
SinnerGwith iptables, how can I check if a certain rule has been set?02:29
harisundkitche installed grub from source? You mean you compiled grub? Any particular reason why you did so?02:29
harisundSinnerG, iptables -t {nat,filter} -L -v02:29
harisundchoose between the nat and filter (default) tables02:29
niroxxhow can i make a video of my desktop ?02:29
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kitcheharisund: umm yeah my distro doesn't use grub that I use it uses lilo and I don't like it02:29
harisundkitche ah ok .. and that distro is?02:30
Sivikfraroco, try installing j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin02:30
bruenigprobably slackware, using lilo would go along with using kernels that are 5 years old02:30
kitchebruenig:" I use 2.6.18 :)02:31
frarocoapt-get install j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin??02:31
Sivikyes02:31
Siviktry that02:31
Sivikyou might have to sudo it02:31
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bruenigkitche was it slackware?02:31
kitchebsdfox: make sure that you have wpa_supplicant installed02:31
bruenigwas i right?02:31
digip1mpomg how do I get the wireless configuration util to show up in gnome?02:31
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kitchebruenig: yeah but then again most distros give you a choice to use lilo or grub02:31
bruenigyes :)02:31
Sivikdigip1mp, what hw02:31
sethkkitche, nothing wrong with lilo02:31
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Sivikkitche, other distros use lilo as well02:32
kitcheSivik as I said they do02:32
bsdfoxkitche, I do, and it opens an instance of wpa_supplicant when I am trying to connect.. but it doesn't work02:32
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Sivikkitche, so whats the problem with it02:32
Sivikfraroco, did that help02:33
digip1mpwpc54g linksys card...02:33
BrianGcan someone help me install BitTornado 0.3.15 on Dapper?02:33
kitcheSivik sethk let see running /sbin/lilo each time I upgrade my kernel :)02:33
SivikBrianG, why bittornado, try something from aptitude02:33
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frarocoSivik:  I am download it02:33
Sivikkitche, that should work02:33
Sivikfraroco, why that one?02:33
godzirrainfo grub didnt raelly show me much :/02:33
digip1mpSivik: wpc54g02:33
BrianGSivik: because those don't work right. I need to use BitTornado 0.3.1502:34
kitcheSivik: but I like grub much more since I started to use it umm I upgrade my kernel alot Sivik since I use native wireless and it seems that it gets better on each release02:34
Sivikyou can install ktorrent or bittorrent02:34
BrianGi dont want thsoe02:34
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Sivikkitche, ok, then just install grub and it shoudl regonize the kernels02:34
ashzillaWhen I'm using GNU Ftp02:34
ashzillahow do I remove a file02:34
ashzilla?02:34
SivikBrianG: then run ./configure and then make and then sudo make install02:34
emileifremDoes anyone know how to install a latin1 locale in dapper?02:34
frarocoSivik: do not have I to download it?02:34
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SivikBrianG, it was a tar that you untarred02:34
bsdfoxhmm, my atheros card connected to it no problem. Is there a wpa issue with bcm4306/rt2500 chips?02:35
Sivikfraroco, so you haven't downloaded it yet02:35
emileifremI need to be able to set LANG=en_US.ISO-8859-102:35
BrianGi tried ./configure02:35
bun-bunBrianG:: the repositories have 0.3.13, it's what i'm using02:35
Sivikwhat does it say02:35
BrianGSivik: yes02:35
kitcheSivik: it does .. but then again you didn't read what I kept saying02:35
SivikBrianG: what did it say02:35
BrianGbun-bun: 0.3.13 isn't 0.3.15 ;)02:35
Sivikkitche, sorry02:35
Sivikwhy do you need 0.3.15?02:35
Sivikwhats wrong with 0.3.1302:35
BrianGwon't work ont he tracker i use02:36
godzirraSo can anyone help get my xp partiation added to grub?02:36
BrianGhang on i'll tell you waht it said02:36
Sivik!pastebin02:36
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:36
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ashzillaWhen I'm using GNU ftp how do I remove a file remotely02:37
BrianGbash: ./configure: No such file or directory02:37
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kitcheashzilla: you mean the command line version?02:37
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sethkBrianG,  you are in the wrong directory02:37
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aFxashzilla : remove in console mode02:37
BrianGhow do i find o ut which is the right one?02:37
sethkbrianG   ./configure means run the configure program here (./ mean in the current directory)02:37
sethkBrianG, did you extract from a tar archive?02:38
sethkbrianG, extract source?02:38
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Nicolehello, I got a Video CApture Kworld card and I am connecting my video camara, but I don't know where to start, what can I do02:38
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BrianGi extracted http://download2.bittornado.com/download/BitTornado-0.3.15.tar.gz to my home02:38
SivikNicole, did you try checking wiki.ubuntu.com for that card02:38
kitcheashzilla: well it's delete if your using the console version02:38
sethkBrianG, then it is in $HOME/BitTornad0-0.3.1502:38
ixianis there a torrent program similar to uTorrent for linux?02:39
sethkBitTornado, I put a zero instead of the o02:39
Sivikixian: ktorrent02:39
Sivikixian: bittorrent02:39
BrianGsethk: that dosen't exist02:39
Sivikixian: there are a bunch of different torrent programs for linux02:39
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LSD`I use rtorrent myself02:39
sethkBrianG, ok, then do this:   ls -ld Bit*02:39
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sethkBrianG, or, an easier way,    do   ls -ltr | tail -102:40
SivikBrianG, is there a install.sh file in that folder02:40
ixiani know there are lots but i like utorrent in windows so i wanted a similar one for linux02:40
godzirraSo can anyone help get my xp partiation added to grub?02:40
sethkgodzirra, did you answer my question about which partition windows is installed onto?02:40
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godzirrasethk: I did.  I said /deb/sda1 :)02:40
BrianGit made a folder BitTornado-CVS02:40
LSD`ixian: you could try running utorrent in wine02:40
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godzirraerr /dev02:40
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sethkgodzirra, no such thing.  do you mean /dev/sda1?02:40
ixianLSD`: thats an idea02:40
sethkBrianG, ok, then     cd BitTornado-CVS02:40
godzirrasethk: yes, hence me saying "err/ dev" right after that :)02:41
sethkBrianG   you can do      cd BitT<tab>              (<tab> means press the tab key, which fills in the rest of the name)02:41
godzirraI'm on a laggy connection to my linux box.02:41
ixianis azureus similar to utorrent?02:41
sethkgodzirra, k02:41
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ugaritI'm trying to have perl executed as a cgi in apache2 and my webclient wants to downloaded it.  What's wrong?02:41
PierreGods_gift: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_Windows_entry_into_GRUB_menu02:41
sethkgodzirra, so you add to the menu.lst file:02:41
Pierrearg02:41
Pierregodzirra: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_Windows_entry_into_GRUB_menu02:41
BrianGim in BitTornado-CVS02:41
BrianGbash: ./configure: No such file or directory02:41
kitcheixian: well azureus is a Java program it's sorta a memory hog but it's nice02:41
ashzillaDoes anyone know how to upload a directory recursively with ftp?02:42
digip1mpSivik: wpc54g linksys card... tried loading the windows drivers with ndiswrapper...02:42
Sivikdigip1mp, not sure02:42
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sethkBrianG, oh, if it's from CVS, that's not what you do02:42
sidny4anyone know how to test surround sound?02:42
LjLashzilla: i don't know, but the "wput" package should be able to do that02:42
BrianGi extracted http://download2.bittornado.com/download/BitTornado-0.3.15.tar.gz to my home02:42
sethkgodzirra, hold on, I'm still looking it up for you02:42
Sivikashzilla, try using send /folder/folder -rF02:42
godzirrasethk: I got myost of it off that site that was just pasted02:42
sethkBrianG, yes, I know.  for a CVS pull, you don't start with ./configure02:42
SivikBrianG: what are the files that are inside of that folder02:42
BrianGi just want ot know where i need to be or what to look for in order to ./configure02:42
godzirrajust trying to see whether /dev/sda1 is (hd0,0)02:43
ashzillaSivik: I will, thank you02:43
sethkgodzirra, ok, then you don't need me, good luck.02:43
Sivikashzilla, yw02:43
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godzirrasethk: thanks for your help02:43
sethkgodzirra, there is a file in /boot/grub that tells you which device is hd002:43
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BrendonHi all, i'm having issues getting my mouse (logitech g7) to work, basically once x is open all i can do is move the mouse up and down. The mouse is plugged into a kvm switch (usb) but i tried plugging it into the pc directly but still got the same effect. Any ideas?02:43
SivikBrianG, is there a file in that folder that you extracted that is currently green?02:43
sethkgodzirra, called device.map02:43
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godzirraahh ko02:44
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godzirraGot it.02:44
BrianGhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26028/02:44
godzirraHow do I make the windows partition the default one?02:44
BrianGgreen? thay're all green.02:44
sethkBrianG, ./configure is _not_ step one when you extract from CVS.   are you in the directory?  If you are, and if you are paying attention, I'll tell you how to do it.02:44
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ashzillaSivik: local: /home/ashzilla/Desktop/test remote: -rF02:44
ashzilla/home/ashzilla/Desktop/test: not a plain file.02:44
BrianGsethk: im in ~/BitTornado-CVS02:44
ashzillalocal: /home/ashzilla/Desktop/test remote: -rF02:45
ashzilla/home/ashzilla/Desktop/test: not a plain file.02:45
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ashzillaOops, sorry for the double past02:45
ashzillaI was scrolled up. :x02:45
sethkBrianG, yes, I know that, I told you to cd to it, remember?02:45
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SivikBrianG: what happens if you run ./BitTornado ?02:45
BrianGjust making sure we're on the same page02:45
avagantOk guys I have a sound question haha.02:45
BrianGbash: ./BitTornado: is a directory02:45
sethkBrianG, I'll check in with you in a few minutes after you get done wasting time.02:45
Sivikavagant, what kind of sound problem02:46
SivikBrianG, then go into that folder02:46
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SivikBrianG, if its a folder, then its not green02:46
avaganti just ran a script i found on a website to see if my sound was set up properly.02:46
BrianGcolors don't help much, i have green text on a black background02:46
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avagantand one of the messages was something along the lines that module config does not exist.02:46
SivikBrianG, are you not in a x?02:46
BrianGbrian@bertha:~/BitTornado-CVS/BitTornado$02:46
avaganthttp://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=aadebug I got it from here.02:46
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avagantit said "module conf does not exist and my kernel will not be autoloaded?"02:47
storm-zenHas anyone seen this message before: hub 2-0:1.0: connect-debounce failed, port 1 disabled ?02:47
NicoleSivik nothing :(02:47
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BrianGi'm in GNOME Terminal02:48
Sivikwell, having green text is stupid, its hard to tell what is executable and whats not02:49
ashzillaSivik: any last ideas?02:49
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avagantit also says "cat /proc/asound/hwdep no such file or directory"02:49
Sivikashzilla, what was the problem again and what did you try, i have way to omuch ging on02:49
ashzillaSivik: nevermind, I'll figure it out later.02:49
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Sivikashzilla, k02:50
BrianGSivik: ok it's on default so now we can color code02:50
troughtoni got samba working now but how do i copy files accross the network Sivik ??02:50
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SivikBrianG, what of those files are colored02:50
sethkBrianG, you still don't want to know how to do it?02:51
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Sivikok, you can't tell by terminal02:51
BrianGin ~/BitTornado-CVS/BitTornado ? none.02:51
LstyWnchI need some help.  I think I muffed something.  When I double click a .bin file it tries to open in gedit02:51
Sivikcan you open nautilus or something?02:51
SivikLstyWnch, that means you haven't chmod it yet02:51
BrianGsethk: what are you talking about?02:51
Dr_willisLstyWnch,  what is this .bin supposed to be?02:51
Sivik.bin is normally a cd image02:51
LstyWnchjava install packet02:51
SivikLstyWnch, sudo chmod +x filename.bin02:52
SivikLstyWnch, and then sudo ./filename.bin02:52
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Dr_willisLstyWnch,  why not use the java pacakges in the repos?02:52
Dr_willis!java02:52
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository02:52
troughtoni got samba working now but how do i copy files accross the network Sivik ??02:52
avagantAnybody?02:52
SivikLstyWnch, what dr willis said02:52
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sethkBrianG, I've offered to tell you how to do it several times, but you ignore me.02:52
Siviktroughton, do you have the right preledges when you connect to the other computer02:52
Siviklike the way an ftp works02:52
BrianGi'm open to anything02:52
kRaKoNhi02:52
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BrianGi obviously want help or i wouldn't have asked for it02:52
troughtoni am in terminal i should have full access02:53
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Siviktroughton, just because you in terminal, doesn't mean crap02:53
sethkBrianG, seems that way, that's why I thought it was strange that you keep trying to run configure after I told you that configure isn't what you need to do.02:53
Dr_willistroughton,  the logic of that statement... is.. well.. lacking. :)02:53
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Siviktroughton, i can login on my other computer as a guest and i only have access to certain file02:53
sethkBrianG, anyway, let me know when you are ready02:54
newpZhi has anyone had success getting mplayer-plugin or gxine working in opera? ive been trying all day hehe02:54
kRaKoNI would like to get some information about ubuntu server I used ubuntu desktope but now that i intalled ubun server i don't know how to do most of the things because i don't have a grafic enviroment. I would like to setup a webserver on that one but i don't know how to do it, is there anybook, or tutorial?02:54
troughtonok so how do i access using comand privalage ??02:54
Dr_williskRaKoN,  why not just install the desktop, and then install the server packages you want to use.02:54
BrianGsethk: i told you i was in the directory (because you asked)02:54
BrianGsethk: now what?02:54
Siviktroughton, sudo su if you know the root password02:54
Sivikjust like you would do with something else02:55
sethkBrianG, you must be confusing me with someone else.  I'm the one who told you to cd to the directory.  In any event, are you ready to try to build it?02:55
kitche!apache > kRaKoN02:55
BrianGyeah02:55
thoreauputickRaKoN: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/index.html02:55
kRaKoNDr_willis: I did that before but with some reading i found out that the server version comes with more security, security that i don't know how to setup by myself02:55
LstyWnchI have another question.  Why can't I access root?  I installed and put all the passwords in.02:55
sethkLstyWnch, you need to set the root password02:56
Dr_williskRaKoN,  id like to know what 'more security' it would come with.02:56
thoreauputic!root02:56
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:56
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Dr_willisgiven how locked down ubuntu desktop is.02:56
sethkLstyWnch, the expert mode install prompts you for the root password, but the desktop does not.02:56
SivikLstyWnch, you have to use sudo, you can't log into the system as root02:56
sethkBrianG, are you there?02:56
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kRaKoNLstywnch: you can use 'sudo su' to access like root02:56
LstyWnchK02:56
BrianGsethk: yeah02:57
sethkBrianG, are    python and wxPython isntalled?02:57
BrianGsethk: yeah02:57
zizbanthe installer on edgy eft is either really slow or doesn't work02:57
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sethkBrianG,  ok, then, do this:         python setup.py install02:57
LstyWnchwhere does the file need to be located when I run sudo chmod?02:57
kRaKoNDr:willis: well i don't know much about this , but i am consediring your suggestion as my second option ;)02:57
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SivikLstyWnch, it really doesn't matter where its located02:57
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sethkLstyWnch, use the full path, then it won't matter what the current directory is.02:57
BrianGsethk: without sudo?02:58
SivikLstyWnch, as long as you chmod +x it, it should be fine02:58
LstyWnchSivik, it said no such file or directory02:58
Tru7h!installation02:58
sethkBrianG, I assume you need to be root, so use sudo02:58
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues02:58
zizbanah thank ye02:58
sethkBrianG, I don't sudo, I build as normal and install as root.  but sudo is fine.02:58
BrianGsethk: ok done02:58
sethkBrianG, ok, now you are ready to start02:59
BrianGeyah02:59
Sivikare you in the directory of the file that your trying to chmod +x to02:59
troughtonso why is it so hard to access and share files on a linux network ???02:59
sethkBrianG, it suggests a line in /etc/mailcap as follows:02:59
sethkBrianG, application/x-bittorrent; /usr/bin/btdownloadgui.py %s; test=test -n "$DISPLAY"02:59
troughtonall i want to do is copy files from my desktop to my laptop02:59
sethktroughton, not the least bit hard.  I do it all day long02:59
troughtonhow sethk ??03:00
Dr_willistroughton,  gee i find it rather trivial03:00
sethktroughton, what's the laptop running and what's the desktop running?03:00
troughtonboth running ubuntu03:00
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sethktroughton, then you can transfer using sftp, or scp.03:00
sethktroughton, if those are missing, do (as root) apt-get install openssh-server     on both boxes03:00
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BrianGsethk: one exists already but /usr/bin/btdownloadgui rather than /usr/bin/btdownloadgui.py03:01
sethkBrianG, right, they say to replace it.03:01
BrianGok03:01
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sethkBrianG, personally I would comment it out rather than replace  :)03:02
LstyWnchheh, duh, much easier to use the repository method03:02
haaryAnyone knows a mp3player for X which is not QT or GTK based?03:02
sethkBrianG, then, theoretically, you are ready to click on a bit torrent thing.03:02
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BrianGok, edited03:03
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kitchehaary: most X players are qt or gtk based03:03
troughtonok sethk openssh-server on both computers03:03
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haarykitche, I know, thats why I ask :-)03:03
sidIf ubuntu is based in Isle of man(for tax purposes?) and their head quarters are in London, why is mplayer mangled to shit to remove some patented crap?03:03
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BrianGsethk: 0.3.15 is now installed?03:04
kitchehaary: I was gonna say xmms2 then remembered that it's console based03:04
sidWhy does Ubuntu removed patented crap if they aren't in America, but are in Europe03:04
haaryA mp3 player based on fox or fltk would be goog03:04
haarygood03:04
ChocoCidbecause it's illegal for a usa person to have it, i think03:04
sidChocoCid: right03:04
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sidChocoCid: but who cares03:04
sidfsck USA03:04
LjL!offtopic03:04
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!03:04
ChocoCidfurthermore, ubuntu and debian have the philosophy that they only come with Free software03:04
ChocoCidwhich is why multiverse and universe are separated from the Free stuff03:05
troughtonok sethk what now ??03:05
ChocoCid(note the capital F there)03:05
sidOpenOffice.org probably has at least 100 patents in it, if you ask any knowledgeable OO.o dev who knows about patents.03:05
kitchesid: it to make FSF happy but then again FSF if you show people how to install it then FSF looks down upon your distro03:05
sidBut OO.o is still in Ubuntu03:05
BrianGsethk: i got it running now. thank you for your help03:05
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LjLChocoCid: actually, the distinction with Universe is that its package are not mantained by the ubuntu core developers...03:06
ChocoCider, ok, multiverse then03:06
sidIs there an ubuntu-legal like the debian-legal?03:06
kitchesid: umm it's not about patents it's more about the laws dealing with those patents and OO.o doesn't break any laws in reality03:06
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sidkitche: sure it does, american patent law03:06
sidThere are features that are infringing on others patents03:06
sethkBrianG,  np03:06
LjLcould this possibly continue in #ubuntu-offtopic?03:07
sidkitche: Is there a website about this stuff? I can't find one.03:07
sidThere doesn't seem to be a ubuntu-legal like there is debian-legal either.03:07
Madpilotsid, given that OOo is primarily developed by an American company (Sun), it's probably legal in the US... and in any case, please move this to #ubuntu-offtopic03:07
thoreauputicsid: I agree with LjL - take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please03:07
kRaKoNdoes anyone has install cpanel on ubuntu?03:08
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wickedpuppykRaKoN, is cpanel free ? i also wanna get ...03:08
kitchekRaKoN: probably not since you need a license for it03:08
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aSt3raLwhat program can i use as a terminal on a serial port?03:09
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wickedpuppylol there goes my hopes kitche03:09
LjLaSt3raL: minicom03:09
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Madpilotcpanel is decidedly non-free - licenses are expensive03:09
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troughtonsethk i have installed openssh-server what now ??03:09
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kitchewickedpuppy there is free alternatives to it though03:09
meatfacehey all03:09
sethktroughton, now you can sftp from one machine to the other.   or you can scp03:09
wickedpuppykitche, like ... webmin ?03:09
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kRaKoNkitche: but they give a trial, or do you know any control panel like cpanel that is for free?03:09
thoreauputictroughton: or you can use "connect to server" and specify ssh03:10
wickedpuppykRaKoN, webmin ... its the closest i can think03:10
kRaKoNwickedpuppy: have you used it?03:10
kitchekRaKoN and wickedpupyp let me find one that is good webmin isn't what I m thinking of03:10
wickedpuppykRaKoN, tes03:10
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wickedpuppythanks kitche03:11
wickedpuppythere is a web app better than webmin ? wow ... cool ...03:11
kRaKoNright webin is not that good03:12
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sethkkRaKoN, webmin is great for some things.03:13
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TennesseeHi all .. does anyone here have any recommendations for system monitoring over the web?03:13
kitchekRaKoN and wickedpupyp VHCS which is open source I like that one03:13
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hollaback83I cant chat other than irc and yahoo please help03:13
wickedpuppyVHCS ?03:14
wickedpuppyah k let me check03:15
hollaback83I learned how to write a language got familiar with linux/unix and still dont know how to hack. can anyone help????03:15
troughtonthoreauptic when i set a connect to server ssh i have put in my desktop name but it says can not find03:15
hawkaloogiehollaback83, what is your definition of "hack"?03:16
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wickedpuppyhollaback83, and what language ?03:16
ixianwhat does it mean when a package has the little ubuntu circle thing by it in synaptic package manager?03:16
hollaback83i really dont know that is the problem. I guess it means to go somewhere without permission03:16
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hawkaloogiehollaback83, that is called "Cracking", and it is illegal03:17
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hawkaloogiedo not ask for help on cracking on this network03:17
hollaback83so whats hacking03:17
LjLhollaback83: doing unusual and interesting stuff with computers03:17
kitchehollaback83: pretty much it means your a nerd :)03:17
darkauracan some one tell me how I can restore my mp3 player I tried formating it and it went dead03:17
LjLor that03:17
halex-abixian, it means it's part of the main repos, not in Universe, Multiverse, or your custom repos03:17
ixianoh i see.. thanks03:18
hollaback83i understand03:18
troughtonthoreauptic when i set a connect to server ssh i have put in my desktop name but it says can not find03:18
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wickedpuppyhollaback83, i would like to know what language you learnt ?03:18
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hollaback83python03:18
k82l..03:18
hollaback83and some of c++03:18
hollaback83the easiest ha ha03:19
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hawkaloogieand this took you how long?03:19
wickedpuppyi thought shellcode + c ....03:19
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troughtonsethk i am new to linux how do i brows my network ??03:20
hollaback83 a few months for python and c++ i took inschool03:20
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hobbesmastertroughton: as in smb shares03:20
hobbesmaster?03:20
hawkaloogiehollaback83, so what have you done in those languages?03:20
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troughtonhobbesmaster as in smb shares meens nothing to me i am new to linux i dont know what you are talking about03:21
hollaback83the first program that i wrote let me use my webcam in black and white03:21
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pohwomcan you raid with 'fdisk' ?03:21
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wickedpuppytroughton, browse your network like windows ? you can see all the computers connected to the same network as your computer ?03:22
cschneidhow hard is a dual headed setup to do w/ nvidia drivers?03:22
halex-abcschneid, not super hard.. lol03:22
kRaKoNkitche: VHCS looks great, I will install it right away03:22
sethkcschneid, not hard at all, you just edit the configuration file correctly.03:22
kRaKoNktiche: thank you ;)03:22
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cschneidsethk, so it's just an xorg.conf issue I can google up?03:22
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halex-abcschneid, as long as you have the nvidia driver already installed, yes..03:23
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cschneidthats good :) thanks all03:23
newpZhi how do i setup a vncserver on 1 pc so i can see the screen of the logged in user?03:23
newpZvncserver ip:1         that give a new desktop03:24
troughtonwickedpuppy i am running a linux ubuntu desktop and a linux ubuntu laptop i want to move files from my desktop to my laptop i have installed samba and openssh-server as i have been advised to by people in here but still cant see my network and when people advise me they leve me without me still having access03:24
Pierre!nvidia > cschneid03:24
Pierrecschneid: then twinview03:24
GoldKeepererm..  does anyone know why my GUI would be super slow after upgrading to edgy ?03:25
holycowan error of some sort.  the new gnome version is super fast03:25
wickedpuppywha .. troughton the moral of the story is don't do things unless you know ? well let me see if i can help ya there ... first ..is samba server running ??03:25
kitchetroughton: well you need to use something like lineighborhood which is sorta like Network Neighboring in windows but for linux03:25
troughtonyes03:25
GoldKeeperhmmm03:25
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GoldKeeperlet me try a reboot03:26
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holycowtroughton, samba is only usefull for windows access/services03:26
holycowtroughton, just make sure you have ssh installed and do places / connect to server03:26
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troughtonwickeduppy this is basics in windows windows can see window and linux linux can see windows and exchange files without installing anything else or setting anything so why is it so hard in linux ?/03:26
holycowand type in the ssh information ... a link will be placed on your desktop, just click it and copy / paste files03:26
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holycowtroughton, its not hard, you just haveto know what you are doing and which protocol to use03:27
holycowon windows they have ONE protocol and it seems easy because everyone forgets that there is mroe than one way to transfer files03:27
wickedpuppyyup ... troughton we don't usually use smb for linux to linux ...03:27
troughtonholycow i have ssh installed and have done places conect to server but what do i put under server03:27
holycowon linux its easier and far more secure you just need to know what protocol to match to what file sharing need03:27
LjLwell, i do03:28
holycowtroughton, ip address03:28
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troughtoni tryed ip address holycow03:28
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ChocoCidneed a port after it, maybe03:28
holycowport is 2203:28
GoldKeeperhmm03:28
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wickedpuppytroughton, can tell us the exact ip address of the two machines and the command you are typing pls03:28
holycowusername is the neame you login on th eother machine03:29
sethkChocoCid, no, you don't use explicit ports03:29
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troughtonso i have to change the ip every time i reboot my computer ??03:30
holycowno03:30
holycowi told you03:30
sethktroughton, why?03:30
holycowit will place a shortcut on your desktop03:30
holycowjesus03:30
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sethktroughton, if the machines are not in DNS and you reference them by IP and their IP address changes, then the command would change, yes, if that's what you mean.03:31
troughtoni dont have static ip's everytime i reboot i my router gives each mashien a new ip03:31
troughtonthey are on a dns03:31
digital_citizen_holycow, holycow...........03:31
holycowtroughton, then you need a local dns that tracks the machines03:31
sethktroughton, then use their name03:31
hollaback83Are there community groups in boston mass03:31
Dr_willistroughton,  you mean a DHCP ?03:31
sethktroughton, that's the entire point of DNS, so you can translate names to IP addresses03:31
GoldKeeperanyone have any ideas why my GUI is super slow after upgrading to edgy03:31
kitchehollaback83: yeah if you mean a LUG03:32
troughtondhcp yer sorry Dr_willis03:32
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sethkGoldKeeper, specifically, no, but other people have had the same problem.03:32
GoldKeepereek03:32
holycowGoldKeeper, try deleting your .gnome and .gnome2 dirs and loging out and logging back in03:32
GoldKeeperany fixs03:32
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GoldKeeperok03:32
BrianGsethk: i can safely remove this ~/BitTornado-CVS  correct?03:32
sethktroughton, if the machine name is   xyz,  then you would do    sftp whatever@xyz03:32
hollaback83yeah a lug03:32
Dr_willistroughton,  if you are running the dhcp server.. they can be set to assign specific ips to specific machines.. or just set up the box's to use static machines03:32
sethkBrianG, yes, but reverse the /etc/mailcap change03:32
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sethkDr_willis, he doesn't need to do that, the machines are in DNS03:33
troughtonok thanks03:33
sethkDr_willis, he shouldn't be using IPs in the first place.03:33
holycowbtw, you should be aware that windows machines find them selves because they run their own dns services internally03:33
BrianGsethk: why reverse it?03:33
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Dr_willissethk,  i think he miss-spoke and ment using DHCP when he said 'dns'03:33
sethkBrianG, because you said you are going to delete the program that it is pointing to03:33
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bruenigcan you open something with the terminal, and then close the terminal and have it still run?03:33
sethkDr_willis, I don't think so, no, but I suppose it's possible.03:33
GoldKeeperdeleting the .gnome dirs didnt seem to work03:33
sethktroughton, did you make an error when you said the machines are in DNS?03:34
holycowsethk, why not? how is he going to find resolve the machine names without dns?03:34
kitchebruenig: yes if you send the process to the background03:34
troughtonyes i did sethk03:34
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Dr_willisGoldKeeper,  theres also the .gconf* dirs03:34
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sethkholycow, I didn't say he is going to resolve names without DNS.  I said that _he_ said that DNS is _already_ set up.03:34
holycowoh he has a dns server? in which case use the machine names03:34
GoldKeeperill try thoose two03:34
holycowsethk, my bad *nod*03:34
sethkholycow, right, only now it turns out that apparently he hasn't  :)03:34
bruenigkitche, like lets say I want to open totem with the terminal, what would the command be, as opposed to just "totem" to have it be able to open and then stay open when I close the terminal03:34
sethkholycow, but he did say he had03:34
PhuzionIs there a network auto-config wizard thing through bash?03:34
sethkand Dr_willis is right again  :)03:34
Dr_willis:)03:35
sethkPhuzion, any program can be started with bash.   try network-admin03:35
holycowsethk, i missed that *nod*03:35
Dr_willisa "FIRST" according to my wife...03:35
Dr_willis:)03:35
kitchebruenig: totem & will keep it running until you log out03:35
sethkPhuzion, you'll need to run it as root, of course03:35
troughtonsorry for all the trubble everyone i told u i was lerning you have been a grate help thank you everyone03:35
bruenigwhen I do totem &, and then close the terminal, totem still closes03:35
regfireHello all, anyone have any luck with dapper and an ATI x1600 pro.....I havent dove into making it work yet and was wondering if anyone had any pointers03:35
sethktroughton, not trying to give you a hard time.03:36
Phuzionsethk, I'm talking about the wizard that comes up during installation03:36
sethktroughton, if you don't know what something means, then ask.03:36
kitchebruenig: odd it should stay open03:36
sethkPhuzion, I don't know whether the same wizard comes up during installation.  why would you want that one instead of the normal one?03:36
bruenigthat was my thought03:36
holycowtroughton, its no big deal, happy to help03:36
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Phuzionsethk:  This machine has no desktop manager03:36
PhuzionIt's just bash03:36
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PhuzionI'll be back soon03:37
sethkPhuzion, in that case I would just edit the config files.  I don't know whether the text mode installer's network setup is available or not03:37
Phuzionk, thanks anyways03:37
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GoldKeepergui is still super slow03:38
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sethkGoldKeeper, until something fixes it, it will continue to be slow.03:38
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sethkGoldKeeper, any idea where it is spending it's time?   does top show anything interesting?03:39
digip1mpbah this sucks... I can't get my wireless working in ubuntu03:39
torchieme either03:39
kitchedigip1mp what chipset?03:39
GoldKeeperthings like moving windows minimizing or scrolling a website is what is very slow, there are no interesting signs of anything03:40
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digip1mpnot sure, but it's the linksys wpc54g.  I saw and tried this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5645... but it doesn't seem like installing the windows drives downloaded from linksys with ndiswrapper is making ubuntu use those drivers for the card...03:41
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digip1mppretty frustrating...03:41
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Lam_i need something that can convert .bin files to .iso files03:43
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thoreauputic!bchunk03:44
ubotubchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB03:44
Lam_thoreauputic: thanks03:44
thoreauputic:)03:44
httpdssdigip1mp: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=Linksys .... or ndiswrapper03:44
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regfirenice03:44
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dragonriotis there a way to upgrade to the 2.6.18 kernel without losing the Ubuntu boot screen?03:44
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dragonriotNothing really... better question; Is there a way to get Synaptic Package manager to upgrade to 2.6.18 or do I have to do it manually (I don't mind doing it manually, but I'd rather Ubuntu KNOWS that I've upgraded the kernel...03:46
kitchedragonriot: think there is a document on how to make kernel packages03:47
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httpdssdigip1mp: or maybe ... http://ubuntuforums.org/tags/index.php/wpc54g/03:47
dragonriotlast time I upgraded to 2.6.17.11, ubuntu wasn't happy with me, it said Linux was irretrievably broken...03:47
shuananyone know how i can play mp3 and other files i used to be able to play in windows03:47
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shuani think it might be called win32 or summin03:48
Dr_willis!mp303:48
darkaurainstall amorake03:48
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:48
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Dr_willisw32codecs are  NOT the ones for mp3's :P03:48
shuanso which is the one for mp3's03:48
Dr_willisread the !mp3 url the bot just gave.03:49
shuanthanks03:49
darkaura!amarok03:49
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org03:49
darkaurathats what I use to play mp3s03:50
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shuani have amarok but its not playing mp303:51
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ChocoCid!restricted formats > shuan03:51
kitche!mp3 > shuan03:51
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TimM_Does anyone here know how to enable the ica protocol on tsclient?03:52
kitcheTimM_ do you mean teamspeak client or no?03:53
guest_4I am about to reinstall my grub boot loader -> grub-install path .. but I am not sure what to put for the path. fdisk -l returns this-> /dev/hda1   *           1       19270   154786243+  83  Linux03:53
darkauraI know this is stupid whats the unmount command?03:53
thoreauputicumount03:53
guest_4do I use /dev/hda?03:53
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thoreauputicno "n" ;)03:53
kitcheguest4: grub-install /dev/hda if you want to install on the MBR03:53
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guest_4ok thanks!03:53
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TimM_kitche, I mean the terminal server client.03:54
GoldKeeperlol is there anyway to revert back to stable from edgy03:54
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thoreauputicGoldKeeper: not without much voodoo and pain, no03:54
kitcheTimM_ ah isn't ica Citrix protocol?03:54
dragonriotcan I upgrade to Edgy but only upgrade the kernel and nothing else?03:54
GoldKeeperk03:54
guest_4Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.03:54
guest_4hmm03:55
TimM_kitche, yup.03:55
guest_4I already mounted hda1, not sure what this is03:55
kitcheTimM_: think you have to use the Citrix client for that03:55
tonyyaru1sodragonriot: Sort of.03:56
dragonriottonyyaru1so... how?03:56
TimM_kitche, I have RDP and RDPv5, but VNC, XDCMP and ICA are grayed out.03:56
dragonriotI only want the kernel, nothing else...03:56
tonyyaru1sodragonriot: You could add the edgy repositories, apt-get install the kernel, and then comment them back out to avoid upgrading anything else.03:56
dragonriotah... good stuff... thanks.03:56
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whatthedeuceHey.  I'm getting very strange errors when I try to compile any c++ programs using Ubuntu.  Even a simple "Hello, World" program won't compile.  The error is about 10 lines long, and it starts with: "undefined reference to `std::cout'".  I have build-essentials installed.  What could cause this?03:57
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guest_4can someone help? I know it's something small that I am not entering in the terminal03:58
Phuzionguest_4:  What is your problem?03:58
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wickedpuppy whatthedeuce paste to us the code pls ... use pastebin03:59
wickedpuppyi think you didn't do include <iostream> .. did you ?03:59
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guest_4i'm trying to reinstall grub. I first mounted my hd-> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/    it's mounted, now I need to reinstall grub.. I tried grub-install /dev/hda but that did not work. Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.03:59
dragonriotanyone else having issues on the ubuntu forums?03:59
Phuzionlink to what you're having problems with dragonriot?04:00
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Ruffleshi there04:00
PhuzionSup04:00
dragonriotPhuzion... the forums are down...04:00
kitcheguest_4: chroot into where you mounted /dev/hda104:00
Rufflesis it possible to downgrade firefox into 1.5 again? (i'm runnin' edgy btw)04:00
dragonriotand now back up04:00
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guest_4how would I do about doing that? sorry :/04:01
Dr_willishmmm xmms wont start,,,04:01
wickedpuppyand my rails app won't run ... what a lousy day04:01
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kitcheguest_4: chroot /mnt/ /bin/bash if you mounted /dev/hda1 to /mnt/ but you need to mount /proc also04:01
Rufflesanyone?04:01
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guest_4ok it looks like it mounted04:02
guest_4do I now.. chroot /mnt/ /proc ?04:02
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whatthedeucewickedpuppy: iostream is included.  The code isn't really worth pasting.  It's just a hello world program.  I'm positive that there is nothing wrong with it (I've looked over it many times)04:02
kitcheguest_4: chroot /mnt/ /bin/bash04:02
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PhuzionRuffles:  I suppose it would be possible to remove what the new Firefox has on your machine already, then compile the binaries from the version you want, if you can't figure out a simpler way04:03
wickedpuppywhatthedeuce, well up to ya .. but if i can;t run it here then i can't tell ya anything ...04:03
xplic1twhatthedeuce: paste it anyway =] 04:03
ajtHi all. I left for the weekend and when I came home my Ubuntu system would not respond at all. So I did a hard reboot and when it went to boot all of a sudden I get  Grub error 17. Does anyone know how to fix this?04:03
guest_4ok that is done, so now I just try to reinstall? grub-install /dev/hda --no-floppy ?04:03
RufflesPhuzion, thought of doing so on synaptic..04:03
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ajtWhat file system does badger breezy use by default, ext3 or reiserfs?04:03
PhuzionI'm not a huge Synaptic user, so maybe someone else can help you out there04:04
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kitcheguest_4 yes but why the --no-floppy switch?04:04
Phuzionajt:  ext304:04
guest_4not sure, saw it on something.. what is that flag for?04:04
ajtPhuzion: ok04:04
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PhuzionAt least, that's my experience04:04
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kitcheguest_4 well it's something that you don't really need to use a switch for04:04
RufflesPhuzion, can't get any other version from my repositories.. :(04:04
mcscruffFFS @ Kubuntu!!!!!04:04
Rufflesthe only one available is bon echo204:05
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guest_4grub-install /dev/hda04:05
guest_4/dev/hda: Not found or not a block device.04:05
PhuzionRuffles:  I'm going to suggest then compiling the binaries from sourceforge04:05
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Rufflesnah.. i hate compiling :)04:05
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kitcheguest_4 you mounted /dev also?04:05
PhuzionRuffles, it's not that hard04:05
mcscruffbeen using ubuntu on laptop and kubuntu on Desktop, booted desktop ealier and it cant mount /root filesystem04:05
BuglouseI've just installed MuSE 0.9.2 On my Ubuntu Distro.  The option to create a Lame Server is not available.. I only see the option to create a Ogg Server.  I have Lame installed and I can listen to mp3s using other media packages.04:05
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whatthedeuceHere it is. http://monjaro.org/test.cpp04:05
guest_4no I don't think so, ok so I need to mount /dev >04:06
guest_4?04:06
RufflesPhuzion, yep but it gives me the impression that it messes up my system04:06
Rufflesplus i wouldn't be able to uninstall it04:06
PhuzionNot with Synaptic, no04:06
mcscruffguest_4, lost grub MBR?04:06
kitcheguest_4 yes you have t mount it to /mnt/dev04:06
PhuzionBut in all honesty, compiling is not that hard04:06
Rufflesi know how to compile04:06
PhuzionI compiled my first program after using Linux for 2 weeks04:06
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Rufflesi just don't wanna mess up my os04:07
mcscruffcompiling is best imo04:07
PhuzionYou won't04:07
guest_4mount /mnt/dev04:07
guest_4mount: can't find /mnt/dev in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab04:07
Rufflesok and how would i upgrade or uninstall a compiled software?04:07
Rufflesi don't even know where the files go to04:07
mcscruffRuffles, instead of make install , use an app called checkinstall , then u can remove the app easier04:07
PhuzionUnless you do something along the lines of rm -rf / you're not going to mess up your OS04:07
kitcheRuffles only way to mess up linux is compile a system critical software wrong04:07
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guest_4mcscruff, I am not sure what is wrong :/04:08
whatthedeucewickedpuppy: Does it compile on your system?04:08
guest_4I just now my boot loader is messed up04:08
guest_4know04:08
Rufflesi was talkin' about all the garbage it produces04:08
mcscruffguest_4, i missed what the problem was, could you paste/retypee it pls04:08
mcscruffguest_4, did u install windows or another os?04:08
wickedpuppyhold on whatthedeuce04:08
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guest_4sure.. I am trying to reinstall grub04:08
Rufflesi wouldn't be able to remove or even upgrade firefox afterwards04:08
guest_4I was going to, but didn't04:08
dragonriotis the Universe Repository the one for Edgy, or does Edgy have it's own set of repositories?04:09
Rufflesunless i compile it again04:09
guest_4but I think I messed up a small partition or something?04:09
kitchedragonriot it's own repos04:09
Rufflesi need .debs :D04:09
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mcscruffguest_4, open console and type sudo grub04:09
guest_4ok, i'm at the grub menu04:10
wickedpuppywhatthedeuce, yes04:10
wickedpuppyit does run on my com ...04:10
mcscruffguest_4,  root (hd0,0)04:10
mcscruffor whatever ur hd is04:10
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wickedpuppywhatthedeuce, how did you compile it ?04:10
mcscruffguest_4, setup (hd0)            <<change hdd if its different04:11
jsilvahi04:11
guest_4selected disk does not exist, do I use hd0,1 ? how can I find out? by calling fdisk -l?04:11
mcscruffguest_4, quit04:11
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jsilvado you know a good tutorial for compiling mplayer with flv and mp4 support or a precompiled package?04:11
mcscruffguest_4, should have seen some shit then it should be ok04:11
ArrenLexjsilva: if you have w32codecs installed, mplayer will support them out-of-the-box, or with default compile options.04:11
mcscruffruff|brb, use checkinstall to compile and make a .deb04:12
ArrenLexjsilva: google for the w32codecs package. Then you can just install mplayer from the ubuntu multiverse repositories.04:12
whatthedeucewickedpuppy: I figured it out.  I was compiling it with gcc rather than g++.  I'm used to using C04:12
jsilvaArrenLex: but .3gp files doesn't have sound04:12
wickedpuppywhatthedeuce, :P happy coding!!!04:12
ruff|brbmcscruff, mmmm.. now you're speakin' my language.. how can i make a .deb from the source code?04:12
ajtHi everyone. I just booted up my ubuntu machine and I get grub error 17. Does anyone know how to fix this?04:13
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mcscruffruff|brb, install an app called checkinstall (there is a deb on its homepage) , then do compile and make as normal but instead of make install , do checkinstall04:13
ArrenLexjsilva: that's different. You have to compile the codec. Download mplayer sources, extract the tarball, go to the libavcodec folder, and follow the directions found in the comments at the top of the amr.c file. That should set you up.04:14
ruff|brbmmmmm...04:14
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LSD`ajt: partition might be toast :(04:14
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jsilvaArrenLex: thanks, I'll try it04:14
mcscruffruff|brb, it will make a deb then u just install the deb like normal04:14
ruff|brbmcscruff, will it copy any file outside the source directory itself ?04:14
ruff|brbsweet :D04:14
ruff|brbmcscruff,  thanks bro you're the pimp!04:15
mcscruffruff|brb, i cant remember where it puts the .deb file, its either same dir or in temp04:15
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ajtLSD`: what do you mean by "toast"?04:15
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mike-ekimim tryin to get shell access to my box and its telling me that its connection refused04:15
zspada15i cannot get wifi to work with my broadcom airforce one04:15
mike-ekimcould that be a iptables rule, or something that didnt install with ubuntu, like ssh daemon04:15
darkaurahow would I format my mp3 player back to fat12 or whatever so I can use it again04:15
mcscruffmike-ekim, useing the correct username and password?04:15
LSD`ajt: kaput, dead, broke, you get the idea. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml#doc_chap504:16
ajtmike-ekim: you need to install sshd and make sure your firewall is open04:16
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ajtLSD`: ugh oh that's really not good04:16
mike-ekimyeah its telling me connection regused04:16
ArrenLexjsilva: or download this package, which is my own mplayer with amr support, but you might not have some libraries you need so it's not guaranteed to work. Make sure you have the libtheora package installed. http://arrenlex.diff.be/mymplayer_1.0pre8-1_i386.deb04:16
mike-ekimrefused04:16
wickedpuppymike-ekim, first .. is ssh running ? second is port 22 ? if so is it blocked in firewall ? if then user name and password correct ?04:16
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ajtLSD`: you know of any way to fix it?04:16
mcscruffmike-ekim, remember to use the -l option to choose a username04:16
CasHi, I've a 1GB memory stick that only shows as 130MB after playing with gparted. I think the  heads, sectors/track and cylinders are wrong but how can I figure out to what I need to set this?04:17
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mister_robotomike-ekim: netstat -a|grep ssh will show you if ssh server is LISTENing04:17
mneptonCas: use gparted to set an msdos disklabel04:17
ruff|brbmcscruff, will i need build-essential as well?04:17
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LSD`ajt: it depends on how serious the damage is. Find a livecd, boot that and see if you can mount and fsck it04:18
mike-ekimmister_roboto its showing that it is listening04:18
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mister_robotomike-ekim: well connection refused means you are not reaching a listening server port. sounds like your iptables settings are blocking it04:18
Casmnepton: that doesn't change the size does it? (/me tries it anyways)04:18
ajtLSD`: One set a head of you. I just booted up my suse rescure disk and tried to mount it but that didn't work04:19
mike-ekimhmm04:19
mike-ekimwell04:19
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mike-ekimwhat should i do04:19
ajtLSD`: let me get you the exact error04:19
ixiancan someone tell me how i can uninstall a program i compiled from source? i followed a tutorial in a book to install Dillo web browser, but i'd like to uninstall it but don'tknow how04:19
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ArrenLexixian: run "sudo make uninstall" in the dillo source directory.04:19
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mister_robotomike-ekim: i don't know the answer well enough without looking it up myself. can you just disable the firewall temporarily to test it. should work. that would tell you for sure04:20
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ixianthanks ArrenLex .. worked04:21
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BuglouseDoes anyone know where i can get the package libmp3lame?04:21
ArrenLexixian: for future installs, look into checkinstall to build packages.04:21
ArrenLex!checkinstall04:21
ubotucheckinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page. - DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!04:21
ajtLSD`: "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda7, missing codepage or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so"04:21
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ArrenLexBuglouse: it's the "liblame0" package in the multiverse repos.04:22
axelcool04:22
LSD`ajt: :/ tried fski'ing it? Or does it need to be mounted for that?04:22
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ajtLSD`: let me test04:22
ajtLSD`: rebooting w/ rescue cd now04:22
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ajtLSD`: I don't think it needs to be mounted to fsck it04:22
SnakeWhat kind of software could I use to control how my dual screen set up is?04:23
ajtSnake: what do yu mean controL?04:23
SnakeI wnat it to extend my desktop over04:23
Snakerather than mirror it04:23
LSD`xinerama?04:23
ArrenLexSnake: "control"? And, what card?04:23
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ajtSnake: xinerama woudl be it04:23
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SnakeArrenLex: ATI 960004:23
ruff|brbmcscruff, is it make checkinstall ?04:23
SnakeOkay04:23
Casmnepton: just did it and lost another 20MB :s04:23
ajtSnake: not sure if ubuntu has sax2 but you could use that to ocnfigure it04:23
wickedpuppyajt, isn't that suse stuff ?04:24
Snake!info04:24
ubotuinfo: Standalone GNU Info documentation browser. In component main, is standard. Version 4.8-4 (dapper), package size 209 kB, installed size 384 kB04:24
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Snake!info xinerama04:24
ubotuPackage xinerama does not exist in any distro I know04:24
ajtwickedpuppy: yeah, I'm just used to using it04:24
Snakeits not in the repos?04:24
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wickedpuppySnake, what is it that you would like to get ? pls ask here04:24
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guest_4ok, no luck yet reinstalling grub.. how can I paste to the paste bin?04:25
Snakewickedpuppy: the program they just said,04:25
ArrenLex!pastebin04:25
wickedpuppy!pastebin04:25
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:25
Snakexinerama04:25
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sureshot!xinerama04:25
ubotuxinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo04:25
wickedpuppyfunny .. i always win ...04:25
ajtSnake: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=34100304:25
guest_4http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26034/ there is my attempt.. can someone please help04:26
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BuglouseI've just installed MuSE 0.9.2 On my Ubuntu Distro.  The option to create a Lame Server is not available.. I only see the option to create a Ogg Server.  I have Lame installed and I can listen to mp3s using other media packages.04:26
PhuzionWhere do I edit DNS servers?04:26
BuglouseDoes anyone know what do to to get the Lame Option?04:26
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kfm82northwoodPhuzion: /etc/resolv.conf04:27
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Phuzionthanks04:27
ruff|brbafter having done the ./config and make thingy.. what do i do with checkinstall?04:27
ruff|brbis it make checkinstall ?04:27
PhuzionWhat is the format to add in an IP address for resolv.conf?04:27
PhuzionI don't have one on my system for some reason04:28
ArrenLexruff: no, just sudo checkinstall04:28
Madpilotnixternal, ping - PM me about your -ops request04:28
guest_4can someone please help me reinstall grub? I have work that I did not back up before this happened.04:28
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wickedpuppyPhuzion, nameserver 202.156.1.4804:28
wickedpuppydon't use that IP though04:28
Lam_!bchunk04:28
ubotubchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB04:28
darkaurawhats a good partioning program for ubuntu04:29
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Phuzionwickedpuppy, thanks04:29
wickedpuppynp04:29
mcscruffruff|brb, sorry i was fixing my other pc, you just use "checkinstall"04:29
wickedpuppydark, i l iike fdisk ..there is also cfdisk and gparted04:29
ruff|brbArrenLex, does it need to be run from within the source directory?04:29
wickedpuppyno no its for darkaura04:29
wickedpuppysorry04:29
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ArrenLexruff|brb: from the same place you would have run make install.04:30
mcscruffdarkaura, qtparted04:30
ruff|brbi see04:30
ruff|brbthanks :)04:30
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ArrenLexruff: essentially all checkinstall does is run "make install" and watch what files get installed, then puts all these files into a package. It's not magic.04:30
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ruff|brbArrenLex, would i need to do a dpkg -i ?04:31
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ArrenLexruff: no; checkinstall installs it automagically if it builds correctly.04:31
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ruff|brbmmmm.. cool04:31
ruff|brblemme try it04:31
Gk-s2-someone here know how to fix direct rendering: No ?04:31
CripperZhi guys04:32
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ArrenLexGk: what driver? what card?04:32
CripperZi wonder if anyone have used tspc ipv6 tunnel broker ... i need a bit of help04:32
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ruff|brboooh... the file i got from firefox's site is the binary already compiled04:33
ajtLSD`: I tried to run fsck.ext3 on it and it said to run e2fsck -b 8193 /dev/hda and that gave me the error "Bad magic numb er in super-block while tryong to open /dev/hda"04:33
RugDoes anybody have any experience setting up Dell Servers?  I just got one (second-hand) and I can't get it to recognize more then 2 SCSI disks at one time.  (port #3 & #9 seem to be the only ones that work)04:33
LSD`ajt: :/04:33
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Gk-s2-<ArrenLex> Gforce 4 mx 440 128mb04:33
GoldKeepererrr04:33
ArrenLexGk-s2: what driver are you trying to use with it?04:33
GoldKeeperi installed edgy but i aint getting no flashy aiglx effects04:33
yarddog!edgy04:34
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule04:34
Gk-s2-<ArrenLex> Driver?04:34
ajtLSD`: :/ is right04:34
b03nto!xdm04:34
ubotuxdm: X display manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-6ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 150 kB, installed size 748 kB04:34
ArrenLexGk-s2: yes. Pastebin the output of "/etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver" ; there should be four or so lines.04:34
kitcheGoldkeeper you have to enable thema nd install beryl or compiz04:34
ArrenLexSorry, that's "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver"04:34
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b03ntoanyone know how to put shutdown or reboot button on xdm ?04:35
Gk-s2-        Driver          "kbd"04:35
Gk-s2-        Driver          "mouse"04:35
Gk-s2-  Driver        "wacom"04:35
Gk-s2-  Driver        "wacom"04:35
Gk-s2-  Driver        "wacom"04:35
Gk-s2-        Driver          "nvidia"04:35
Gk-s2-sorry for flood04:35
ArrenLex!pastebin04:35
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:35
dragonriotI have an HP ZD8000 laptop with an ATI Mobility Radeon X600... I've seen lots of issues with upgrading to Edgy and not having fglrx functionality after the upgrade... is that problem fixed yet, or should I not upgrade to edgy until the next RC?04:35
Lam_Nvidia uses GLX; can ATI cards utilize the same rendering mode, or are we locked into DRI?04:37
Gk-s2-ty ArrenLex04:37
mike-ekimi did iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -s sourceip --dport 22 -j ACCEPT04:37
mike-ekimand the connections are still now allowed from that iup04:37
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judycan anyone tell me where the channel topic list is that is referenced when some executes  !pastebin  i have never seen a channel topic there04:38
ArrenLexGk-s2: can you pastebin your entire /etc/X11/xorg.conf, please?04:38
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Gk-s2-k04:38
ArrenLexGk-s2: how did you install your nvidia drivers?04:38
Madpilotjudy, type "/topic"04:38
Madpilotjudy, without the "", of course04:38
NineTeen67CometAny Aiptek U8000 tablet users in here? I've got one I have not been able to use since I got it a year ago.04:38
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judyMadpilot: ok thanks i will try it04:38
loper06what was the name of the windows app that can allow you to write to ur linux parition from windows?04:38
GoldKeeper!aiglx04:39
ubotuAIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.04:39
judyMadpilot:  of course thanks04:39
Gk-s2-<ArrenLex> Apt-get install nvidia-glx04:39
Gk-s2-<ArrenLex> Apt-get install nvidia**04:39
GoldKeeper!compiz04:39
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems04:39
ArrenLexGk-s2: have you restarted after doing this?04:39
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Gk-s2-<ArrenLex>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26036/04:40
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Gk-s2-yes04:40
ruff|brbThe-Terminator, :D04:40
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Gk-s2-and i have xgl with compiz too04:40
Gk-s2-but not work04:40
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PhuzionAnyone got some time and doesn't mind doing some one on one help with getting a machine onto a network?04:40
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freemindcompiz is old, try beryl04:40
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ArrenLexGk-s2: why are the lines Load"dri" 036. and Load    "GLcore"  commented out?04:41
ArrenLexSorry, ignore that 036.04:41
Gk-s2-Xgl04:41
ArrenLexGk-s2: ...sorry?04:42
Gk-s2-Xgl Tutorial ....said to comment that line04:42
Gk-s2-i dont know why04:42
mike-ekimcould it be that i dont have ssh listening04:42
ArrenLexGk-s2: try uncommenting the dri line. Leave the gl line alone for now.04:42
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babowhat's the easiest way to upgrade my emacs version ?04:43
Gk-s2-k04:43
mike-ekimeven localhost connect gives me refused04:43
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The-Terminator??04:43
yarddog!xgl04:43
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems04:43
ghostshadow189hi all , i'm testing  "gnome-terminal --window --execute perl test.pl"  , after that it opened a terminal window , but this window disappeared . so how can i make it still appear to see the result of test.pl script ?04:43
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judy!glx04:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:44
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ruff|brbThe-Terminator, hello mister04:44
baboemacs 22 isn't in the repos ?04:44
The-Terminatorah there you are Ruffy :)04:44
ghostshadow189what's terminator ?04:44
baboIs it stable ?04:44
The-Terminatorterminator me \as in the film04:45
loper06what was the name of the windows app that can allow you to write to ur linux parition from windows?04:45
jrib!ext304:45
ubotuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org04:45
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loper06thx04:45
Flannelbabo: emacs 21 is in dapper repos04:45
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ghostshadow189s1 help me pls04:45
erickmMy girlfriend would like to play a nice rpg game for linux. She used to play some windows games but I rather see if she would like some native linux games before installing windows on another partition. I have tried using wine but with my experience it only seems to work on few games I've tried. Maybe becaise of my 64 bit architecture and forcing the i386 to install? So.. does anyone know of a single player rpg games? Something with impressi04:46
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ghostshadow189i'm testing  "gnome-terminal --window --execute perl test.pl"  , after that it opened a terminal window , but this window disappeared . so how can i make it still appear to see the result of test.pl script ?04:46
baboFlannel: yes, but not emacs 2204:46
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hobbesmasteruhm, just open a terminal window and execute it from there?04:46
Flannelbabo: correct.  versions are frozen in repository.04:46
d00byanybody know why airodump-ng would freeze when running alongside aireplay-ng?04:46
Gk-s2-<ArrenLex> need restart x?04:47
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Gk-s2-brb04:47
windtwhello..Bug #63516 is fixed?04:47
ArrenLexGk-s2: yes.04:47
darkauraokay I need help I'll explain my situation I tried formating my mp3 player with linux, so I could possible get songs on it, I messed it up I was wondering if it was possible to restore the original file system on it so I can use it again04:48
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mister_robotoerickm: have you tried googling for linux rpg games?04:48
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Gk-s2-<ArrenLex> Didn't work04:48
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ArrenLexdarkura: every mp3 player I've seen has the option to reformat built in. Look through the menus.04:49
erickmyeah, I tried searching the ubuntu game forums too but could not find anything great for single player :/04:49
Alakazam_AIGLX, how can i get it.04:49
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The-TerminatorI know some games just got them from a linux mag04:49
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Shaezscheanyone know how to get the intel wireless 3945 card working on ubuntu???04:49
ArrenLexGk-s2: pastebin the output if "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE"04:49
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darkauraI don't think this one does its an Curtis 256 meg mp3 player that directly plugs into the usb slot04:50
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wooptydooI used easyubuntu to install xine, and somehow I have 2 versions of the program installed it 2 different locations04:51
guto<ArrenLex> sorry can you say what i should type again?04:51
ruff|brbThe-Terminator, wanna found bright-star and euro-chat here? :D04:51
wooptydooAnyone know the repository for the xine that will play encrypted dvd's04:51
baboFlanne: what do you mean by 'frozen'. I wouldn't expect anyone to rename it ... but I figured that maybe the newer emacs 22 might be in there :P04:51
ArrenLexGk-s2: pastebin the output if "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE"04:51
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wooptydooor a link to it?04:51
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CiausI have installed Ubuntu 6.06 on my home PC, an IBM Model x40 - All in One unit - , and the very first tiem it cam e up just fine into Xserver....after doing online updates, it no longer goes into the GUI04:52
gutohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26039/04:52
ArrenLexwooptydoo: you need to grab the libdvdcss package. This is not available in any ubuntu repositories because it's illegal essentially everywhere. You'll have to google for it.04:52
totall_6_7can anyone tell me why when i type users i get a list that is two of my user name??04:52
guto<ArrenLex>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26039/04:52
AbortDhow do i use dual monitors with ubuntu?04:52
wooptydooI got libdvdcss04:52
CiausI have tried to get back to a working gui by doing two whole reinstalls, to no avail04:52
jribtotall_6_7: type 'w'04:52
jsilvaArrenLex: thanks for the precompiled mplayer package, it does work ;)04:52
The-TerminatorRuffy we were thinking of putting them on viperirc but here would be a good place to04:52
guto<ArrenLex> how can i remove some shortcuts of keyboard04:52
Ciaushelp04:52
wooptydooeasyubuntu installed that just fine04:52
ArrenLexjsilva: glad I could be of help!04:52
wooptydooI just have 2 xines installed04:53
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ArrenLexguto: like what?04:53
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ArrenLexguto: Try restarting the machine completely. o_o that is very odd.04:53
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BuglouseI've just installed MuSE 0.9.2 On my Ubuntu Distro.  The option to create a Lame Server is not available.. I only see the option to create a Ogg Server.  I have Lame installed and I can listen to mp3s using other media packages.  I would like to know how to get the Lame option in MuSE.04:53
wickedpuppytotall_6_7, open a new terminal and try it again ... see how many did you get04:53
gutok brb04:53
thombonewooptydoo: google for automatix and be happy :)04:53
guto<ArrenLex> xgl add a shorcut "Shift+Backspace" to restart X04:53
wooptydooI installed that too04:54
wickedpuppythombone, pls do not recommend automatix here04:54
wickedpuppyoh boy04:54
totall_6_7freaky   :0       -                29Sep06 ?xdm?   2:04   8.08s x-session-manag04:54
totall_6_7freaky   pts/2    :0.0             19:53    0.00s  0.16s  0.01s w04:54
wooptydooand it screwed stuff up04:54
mister_robotoCiaus: if X is broken from the upgrade, you might find a clue in the log /var/log/Xorg.0.log (or Xorg.0.log.old from previous time)04:54
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thombonesorry didn't know04:54
guto<ArrenLex> I always mistake04:54
wooptydooI just want to keep it simple04:54
thombonemy bad, and aplogies04:54
rootlame is an encoder... has nothing to do with listening AFAIK04:54
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wickedpuppytotall_6_7, eh ah .... that has the answer in itself ?04:55
PhuzionHow do I install mp3 codecs for gnome music player?04:55
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totall_6_7wickedpuppy: sorry maybe i am being thick, but i dont quite understand it04:56
jribubotu: tell Phuzion about mp304:56
Ciausmister_roboto, thx.04:56
HLM!mp304:56
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:56
jribtotall_6_7: when you open up a new terminal, it registers as another user04:56
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nikinsry ... i was root :D04:57
jribtotall_6_7: the 'w' let's you see the command that the user is doing in the WHAT column04:57
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darkaura!cdrom04:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cdrom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:57
Ciaus!xserver04:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:57
The-TerminatorRuffy?04:57
wickedpuppytotall_6_7, look at the second column first row.. :0 is the console .. look at the last value it says its running X .. second row says pts .. thats i think its public terminals04:58
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totall_6_7jrib: thanks, now i get it, i CAN be thick at times lol04:58
wickedpuppylook for pts on google if you wanna know what is it04:58
jribtotall_6_7: :)04:58
wickedpuppyoh jrib already explained .. goodie04:58
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azureala few days ago I had managed to mess up my ubuntu (or at least X) by upgrading to edgy w/ apt... now i get a "no screens found" error, and it will not start the gui -- any advice?04:58
ANTDx1Hello.04:58
The-Terminatordoes anyone here use Mepis 6?04:58
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ArrenLexazueral: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:59
azureali've tried downgrading xserver-xorg04:59
totall_6_7wickedpuppy: thanks for the help :D04:59
ANTDx1I have a very big problem: my Ubuntu partition has a problem with networking and refuses to boot.04:59
SeanTaterroot cannot delete a directory. rm -rf has no effect, root is not permitted to lstat. What do I do about it?04:59
azurealArrenLex, i think i tried that before, to no avail04:59
wickedpuppytotall_6_7, sometimes see where is the difference between the results ... thats usually the answer04:59
Gk-s2-<ArrenLex> Did'nt work =\04:59
ArrenLexazureal: are you certain you're using the correct driver for your card?04:59
wickedpuppySeanTater, ls -l on the dir and paste here pls04:59
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ArrenLexGk-s2: pastebin your entire /var/log/Xorg.0.log, please05:00
azurealArrenLex, yea, i810-- it was already highlighted05:00
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SeanTaterwickedpuppy: total 0 \n drwxrwxrwx 3 root users 80 2006-10-08 22:45 My Webs (I replaced the newline with \n to have it on one line)05:01
Gk-s2-<ArrenLex> I don't have any05:01
azurealArrenLex, currently i'm backing up for a reinstall =/05:01
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wickedpuppySeanTater, thats 777 .. meaning anyone can do anything05:01
azureali might have messed up something else along the way05:01
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: but I can't05:01
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: rm: cannot lstat `/media/disk/Sean/My Documents from Linspire/Really old data/Old Data//My Webs/Tiki Tan website/pictures_of_our_salon.htm': Permission denied05:01
LSD`OK, so I install edgy from a CD but now it's prompting me to do a full dist upgrade anyway, WTF?!?!05:02
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AAAanyone here using kubuntu?05:02
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wickedpuppySeanTater, if i were you i would check on that file05:02
ArrenLexGk-s2: you used to have one. What happened to it?05:02
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: how?05:02
Gk-s2-<AAA> try /join #kubuntu05:02
wickedpuppybtw its a cd ?05:02
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bimberiSeanTater: is that on a ntfs partition?05:02
ArrenLexAAA: I am.05:02
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azurealArrenLex, perhaps my debfoster pruning of gnome* might have had something to do with the errors.... i had attempted to upgrade to edgy w/o ubuntu-desktop package =)05:02
wickedpuppySeanTater, is it a cd ? or windows partition ?05:02
SeanTaterbimberi: nope05:02
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: no, reiserfs05:03
Gk-s2-i typed gedit "var/log/Xorg.0.log" and make a new file05:03
ArrenLexazureal: what would happen if you tried reinstalling x-window-system-core and xserver-xorg?05:03
AAAArrenLex  I just /join #kubuntu but I am wonder about the lack of sound from amarok05:03
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: reiserfs 3, I think05:03
wickedpuppySeanTater, then i would check on that file05:03
ArrenLexGk-s2: slash at the beginning of that.05:03
ArrenLexSorry, don't use Amarok.05:03
erickmOk, everytime I download a game and try to run the binary I get this error-> error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ... Now I have pretty much all the sdl development libraries installed. I also had to recompile a game I wrote just to run it on my machine. Can someone please help? I am using ubuntu64 bit05:03
The-TerminatorDoes anyone here use Mepis 6?05:03
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Gk-s2-<ArrenLex> ?05:04
azurealArrenLex, because of my edgy sources, it would probably just get and install the same harmful versions05:04
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: What should I look for? (and how)05:04
AAAArrenLex  that is the default for kubuntu which used the xine engine that isn't installed , sup wit day?05:04
burepeHas anyone installed the Last Fm linux program? Is there an ubuntu package?05:04
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[5D] Silent_ChaosI'm starting screen before logging in with init.d. Is there a way to start screen for a particular user to access after they log in?05:04
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mike-ekimwhat is postfix for05:04
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wickedpuppySeanTater, see if the file exists and if it does can you delete it if not can you move it or something .. btw if it a shared partition ? why is it reiser ?05:04
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wickedpuppymike-ekim, mail server05:04
erickmcan someone please help?05:05
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: It's reiserfs because that's what linspire used by deafult when I created it05:05
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AAAmike-ekim  mail transfer agent05:05
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: it's an external hard drive05:05
burepe!last fm05:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about last fm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:05
wickedpuppySeanTater, tell you what ... go to another dir ... and delete another file see if you can do so05:06
mike-ekimoh05:06
mike-ekimis it known to be good software, or too vulnerable to security exploits?05:06
wickedpuppymike-ekim, its like sendmail05:06
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mike-ekimi havent worked much with mail daemons05:06
wickedpuppymike-ekim, its excellent05:06
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mike-ekimkool05:06
mike-ekim:D05:06
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: um -- I just moved the file I could not delete.. and it did move -- I'll see if I can delete it now05:07
nikinmy router does not let me traceroute... is there any special setting needed?.. an open port?05:07
AAAmike-ekim  postix or exim or qmail is your best MTA bet05:07
ghostshadow189hi all , i'm testing  "gnome-terminal --window --execute perl test.pl"  , after that it opened a terminal window , but this window disappeared . so how can i make it still appear to see the result of test.pl script ? help me pls ?05:07
wickedpuppySeanTater, ok05:07
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: I've been deleting files on that partition all day05:07
lakiohow can i get WMP9 streaming to come up embedded in firefox? gotta see my comedycentral.com videos05:07
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wickedpuppySeanTater, then perhaps only that file got the problem05:07
ArrenLexlakio: mplayer and mplayerplug-in.05:07
lakioArrenLex: THANKS!05:07
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wickedpuppyghostshadow189, why do you need that gnome-termial windows thing ? i will just open up terminal and type perl test.pl05:08
bimberinikin: what's the error?05:08
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: seems so, I still cannot delete it05:08
wickedpuppySeanTater, then reformat the drive05:08
Gk-s2-<ArrenLex> and now?05:08
wickedpuppyif you want to delete everything05:08
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: hey -- would it be possible to move it directly into /dev/null ?05:08
wickedpuppySeanTater, try it05:08
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SeanTaterwickedpuppy: mv: cannot overwrite non-directory `/dev/null' with directory `/media/disk/nothing'05:09
ghostshadow189wickedpuppy : i want to make a script to add it to menus and when i click to it , it appear a terminal to run the script i want05:09
ArrenLexGk-s2: and now what?05:09
wickedpuppySeanTater, are you deleting everything ?05:09
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: I have loads of GBs of important files on it, I can;t delete it..05:09
Gk-s2-<ArrenLex> what should i do ?05:09
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: no, I;m organizing05:09
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wickedpuppySeanTater, then backup those important files05:10
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wickedpuppyclearly something is wrong ...05:10
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: My backups went wild, and I;m colsolidating05:10
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ArrenLexGk-s2" are you sure you don't have /var/log/Xorg.0.log?05:10
nikinbinberi.. when i try to traceroute i get to 192.168.0.1 , my router.. but not any further05:10
wickedpuppySeanTater, if backup went wild then something already went wrong even before you got to this error ?05:10
wickedpuppyghostshadow189, ok ... ask in #perl05:11
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SeanTaterwickedpuppy: no, it wasn;t automated, it's just that over years of backups I kept them in different folders..05:11
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SeanTaterwickedpuppy: I've spend about a week putting them together --05:11
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wickedpuppySeanTater, you put your backup into that drive ? but now you are deleting old stuff?05:12
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Gk-s2-hmm now i have =D05:12
Gk-s2-http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26040/05:13
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darkauraokay when I try to format my mp3 player to fat16 it deletes the partition fine, but it gives me the following error:: Error committing device this can happen when a device is mounted in the disk try to unmount all partitions on this disk.   I don't have any partitions mounted05:15
digip1mpi give up05:15
digip1mpwireless just wasn't meant to be05:15
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: I put all my backups on that drive. But they were a backup here, and a backup there, not really very well managed. So I'm trying to keep them in one place now. I'm deleting the duplicates. Nothing big or fancy..05:15
erickmok, each game I find does not work with amd64 chips. Does anyone know where I can find some good rpg games for my architecture? :/05:15
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erickmI wanted to try lost labyrinth, i forced the deb install but it didn't work05:16
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wickedpuppynight dude05:16
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Josh43Anyone running a multimonitor setup?05:17
Josh43and not xinerama?05:17
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Gk-s2-<ArrenLex> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26040/05:18
ArrenLexlakio: what are we thanking me for? xD05:18
siriusnovadang05:18
darkauraanyone have suggestions on what I can do?05:18
siriusnovanorth korea tested a nuke05:18
ArrenLex...please ignore me.05:18
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ArrenLexGk-s2: I saw it, man.05:19
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MTecknologyi'm trying to follow these instructions now - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25151 ... i dide dmesg | grep wacom - and got nothing... then i searched synaptics for wacom and everything it returned was installed05:19
MTecknologyso, what do i do?05:19
Gk-s2-<ArrenLex> and?05:19
macographerCan someone tell me what OCaml is, in reference to the libpcre-ocaml package?05:20
macographeri'm trying to figure out if that's the package i need.05:20
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ArrenLexSorry, I don't know... you should be fine. The best I can tell you is to suggest a guide that worked for me with an nvidia card. But you should be fine and I don't know what your problem is. Sorry.05:20
Gk-s2-=) ok05:20
Gk-s2-thank you05:20
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Lam_how do i correctly play back RM files? (real media)  or, preferably, how do i sucessfully convert said RM file into something better?05:21
ArrenLexGk-s2: http://tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.txt05:21
ArrenLexLam: mplayer and mencoder, respectively! :D05:21
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Lam_ArrenLex, lol thanks05:21
five_linuxok... lets say i'm booting my system, and apparently hdb1 has some fs errors, but its locking up while checking the drive.... is there a way to just check the drive in the background and keep booting?05:22
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Josh43five_linux, you can CTRL-C it, then check it again once you are booted05:23
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holycowsiriusnova, no geologic activity has been detected05:23
holycowno one knows yet05:23
ArrenLexfive_linux: no, because you cannot have the filesystem write-mounted if you're fscking it.05:23
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Josh43five_linux, I ran into that same problem, but doing esc (to cancel the graphc boot loader), then ctrl-c to cancel the scan05:23
ArrenLexfive_linux: you can, of course, cancel the scan, as others have suggested.05:23
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PauloFurquimHello everbody..Good evening05:24
ArrenLex!hi05:24
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!05:24
siriusnovaholycow - is there a link to any place that has live siesmic activity feeds?05:24
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brueniglol, there is a !hi factoid05:24
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holycowsiriusnova, not sure, us geologic survey might?05:25
five_linuxdangit waht the heck05:25
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YBH_1anyon eknow why fetchmail is silent when retrieving email on th ecommandline I tried fetchmail -vv which just showed a liost of UIDL's but not stating what email is being retreived.05:26
five_linuxcan't esc from graphic bootloader...  when it starts checking the drive tho it drops to console view, except I can't seem to ctrl-c the fsck process05:26
YouCeyEi am behind a router and no-ip client does not get wan ip.. it is getting 192.168.0.x address.. how can i fix this?05:26
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Josh43YouCeyE, the linux client, I assume?05:26
YouCeyEyes05:26
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kitcheYouCeyE: it will get your local address but it sends gets the wan address also05:27
Josh43YouCeyE, Official one? cause I know there is a setting in the windows version to query for the ip externally05:27
YouCeyEhow?05:27
YouCeyEits the same case with dyndns client05:27
YouCeyEkitche, how to force it to get wan address05:28
kitcheYouCeyE: it grabs it automaticlly but set up port forwarding05:28
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YouCeyEwhat port? kitche05:28
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TheMoebiusif I have an rpm for a package how should I convert that to a .deb to install in ubuntu?05:29
kitcheYouCeyE: the port that the client uses05:29
kitcheTheMoebius: use alien05:29
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darkaurahow would I enable a disk to wrote to if root mounts the disk05:30
loper06can i use vmware w/ the ex2 ifs plugin for windows?05:30
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holycowyes butyour windows gueswt won't be able to see your hd05:30
hoodlum_hi, erm. my inet times out frequently, like every few minutes then starts working again, im kinda confused to as why its doing this, im guessing it may be a route issue05:30
holycowyou still haveto setup file sharing via vmware gui dealier which basically shares a local folder via samba anyway05:30
Arafangionhoodlum_: It could be /anything/05:30
holycowso its a pointless idea05:31
hoodlum_heh.. yer05:31
hoodlum_i figured05:31
hoodlum_but like, its frustrating05:31
hoodlum_doesnt time out in windows on my laptop05:31
hoodlum_but for some reason, on my desktop it likes to do so05:31
loper06holycow: so the only way to transfer files with vmware is to use samba?05:31
Josh43loper06, Yes05:31
Arafangionloper06: It's the best way.05:32
Arafangionloper06: There's other ways, but they're extremely convoluted.05:32
ixiansomeone here mentioned earlier a program that makes uninstalling programs that were compiled from source easier/less messy.. does anyone know what it it called?05:32
Josh43loper06, And potentially damaging05:32
bioticproHow can I enter interactive boot setup in Ubuntu?  (tried hitting "I" , didn't work)05:32
loper06err. sorta stupid.05:32
kitcheixian: checkinstall05:32
ixianyeah thats the one..05:32
loper06but u cant get everything05:32
holycowloper06, its just that why would you even ask?05:32
ixianthanks05:32
holycowit is a trully stupid question05:32
holycowbecause vmware actually gives you a transparent gui to set up file transfers05:33
ixian!checkinstall05:33
ubotucheckinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page. - DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!05:33
holycowloper06, lol i just read what i wrote, i don't mean to sound like a jerk05:33
holycow:)05:33
holycowhehe05:33
holycowsorry05:33
loper06heh. np.05:33
loper06imo i like instant feedback05:34
loper06rather than wait 5 mins and get feedback05:34
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holycowloper06, think of it this way, vmware gives you a convenient transfer mechanism ... once you have your guest os installed you can do whatever that guest os lets you05:35
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five_linuxuuuuuuuggggghhh05:37
five_linuxtons of I/O errors on this drive...05:37
freemindsee whos there05:37
freemindholycow05:37
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freemindhow are you mate05:37
holycow>_>05:38
holycowcool,  you?05:38
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freemindme2 :) how u doin05:38
macographercan anyone tell me where libpcre3 is usually installed? i can't seem to find it with locate, and i need to tell nginx where it's located.05:38
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DyegovHi, I need help, I can't play any MP3 file in Ubuntu, it just doesn't recognize it, and also I can see youtube videos but they don't have sound, and I think it's due to the same problem T_T05:39
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jmerlinanyone know why my dvd won't play on my ubuntu?05:39
holycow!dvd05:39
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages05:39
holycow!mp305:39
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:39
holycow!flash05:39
holycow!sound05:39
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems05:39
jmerlini've already got the css and gone over the stuff on help.ubuntu.com05:40
jmerlini'm not some moron who installed linux and doesn't rtfm.05:40
jmerlini put in my dvd05:40
jmerlinand it can't even mount it05:40
jmerlinthe filesystem says no files exist on the dvd05:40
DyegovMy PC plays sounds, I'm listening to a CD right now, but it jusnt won't play any MP3 file05:40
jmerlini put in a cd and it reads the contents just fine.05:40
holycowjmerlin, let me guess, you are using edgy?05:40
jmerlinedgy?05:40
Dyegovwhat can I do?05:41
holycowDyegov, read the  mp3 stuff i postd up there05:41
holycowyou need the right plugins05:41
freemindesgy is the actual unstable release, Dyegov05:41
freemind*edgy05:41
holycowjmerlin, so you want to actually mount the dvd and browse it instead of play the dvd?05:41
Jack_Sparrow!libdvdcss05:41
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages05:42
jmerlini want to play it05:42
jmerlinbut how can you read the files if it's not mounted?05:42
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holycowmake sure you read jacks info too05:42
jmerlinxine freezes up when i try to play 'dvd'05:42
Dyegovwhat did you posted holycow?05:42
holycowjmerlin, because it just reqads the data stream from the drive directly05:42
holycow!mp305:42
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:42
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Josh43jmerlin, Try another DVD - these days they are tossing random garbage in some dvds as copy protection05:42
PauloFurquimanybody know how to write web pages whith PHP scripts?05:43
DyegovI'll see that, thanks holycow05:43
jmerlin"copy protection".. some people don't have working dvd players hooked up to their TV, we have "DVD Drives" and DVD playback software05:43
holycowPauloFurquim, people in #php do05:43
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Josh43jmerlin, TRUST Me; been there, had that argument05:43
jmerlini mean.. my PC monitor is bigger than my TV montior.. and it's got a much higher resolution so why the hell would i watch DVDs on my tv?? -_-05:43
PauloFurquimThanks holycow05:43
jmerlinstupid fucking companies05:43
holycowno worries05:44
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erickmcan someone help me run a game?05:44
holycowjmerlin, its a scame05:44
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yarddog!language05:44
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:44
azurealfor every company, there is an anticompany05:44
jmerlinit would be nice to ddos them until they stop being so gay.  if people are going to pirate, they're going to pirate.. fucking hell, you can't stop them05:44
holycowthey get paid by the producers for licences to the dvd encryption technology05:44
jmerlinyou can't stop them unless you send out a marine with every DVD you sell.05:44
Josh43jmerlin, I have an origional xbox with playback software, and it even cacks on some DVDs05:44
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holycowthey get paid by the producers of the players which must by licences to play the dvds05:44
Jack_Sparrow!language > jmerlin05:44
holycowits a giant scam05:44
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jmerlinwhen it becomes easier and faster to download a dvd and watch it..05:45
jmerlinthan to insert this dvd i got in the mail05:45
jmerlininto my computer and watch it05:45
jmerlinlike hell if i'm going to buy any more dvds.05:45
wilssgrantQuestion: I am getting a message "Are you sure you want to build without GTK?" when compiling mplayer plug-in for opera. Do I need to install some kind of "Gtk Libs" to do this compile correctly?05:45
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jmerlinthat DVD mounted fine05:45
jmerlinthe other one didn't05:45
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Clarrisadoes anyone know where the commands in the #ubuntu keyboard buffer are stored?  I'd like to dump everything I've typed at the commandline tonight out to a file, or, if it's in a file already, would like to back it up somewhere05:46
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MrKeunerhi, what's the best way to use for ubuntu macosx networking regarding file sharing?05:47
Josh43"How do I get this DVD/CD I bought on to my computer? What software do I need?"  "We have this great analog to digital transfer software, very easy: you enter in the name of your DVD, and 'torrent'" - transfers very quickly"05:47
Josh43MrKeuner, Samba on both ends05:47
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wilssgrantBasically my question is this: What do I need to download in synaptic to be able to compile a GTK application05:48
MrKeunerJosh43/ is it safe?05:48
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MrKeunerJosh43/ those are laptops05:48
DagnyHi05:48
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Josh43MrKeuner, Define safe; is it a home network? is it a wireless system?05:48
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evncan someone suggest a way to force restart remotely when the root filesystem is borked? i can log in as root via ssh but sftp doesn't work so i can't put a copy of halt in /boot05:48
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evnchanging the runlevel does nothing05:49
MrKeunerJosh43/ those are laptops and are connected to several networks in the daytime05:49
DagnyHello.  I'm a Linux noobie, but need to become proficient at Linux for vocational reasons.  Would Ubuntu be a good program to learn Linux with?05:49
macographerit looks to me like i already have libpcre3 installed, but i'm trying to install nginx (server software) and it can't seem to find it. it has a configuration option to tell it where the lib is located, but i don't know what to tell it. can anyone tell me where the default location is?05:49
Josh43MrKeuner, Well, unlike windows: Samba on OSX and linux is fairly safe; you can set user level permissions, etc05:49
erickmcan someone help with a game running issue?05:49
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Josh43MrKeuner, If you /really/ want to be safe; look up sharing both ways with 'sshfs'05:50
Squatch!smb05:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:50
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MrKeunerJosh43/ I would be afraid if people gain access to not shared places thorough samba05:50
DarkMageZDagny, ubuntu would be a good linux distro to start off with. but sbcglobal has banned their users from using it05:50
Josh43MrKeuner, Set up right; those people would have to brute-force the username and password05:50
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DagnyReally ?05:51
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DagnyI wonder why.05:51
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DagnyIs that just for Ubuntu or all Linux distros?05:51
DarkMageZDagny, all linux. just don't mension you're using linux and you're fine :P05:51
Josh43MrKeuner, Plus, you only give access to the folders you explicitly share: System > Administration > SHared Folders05:51
DagnyNo prob.  My  main rig is Win XP anyway.05:51
holycowDagny, vocational reasons? heh05:51
holycowneat05:51
holycowcare to explain?05:52
holycow:)05:52
DagnyI just need to take my old P3 533 and turn it into a Linux box.05:52
holycowDagny, pick any distro it doesn't matter05:52
DagnyFamily connection type of hire.05:52
MrKeunerJosh43/ OK I'll do your advice. Thank you very much05:52
holycowDagny, you want to start with maybe ubuntu first, then learn debian which is nearly identical, then try all the other ones05:52
holycowyou need to understand the general concepts as well as distribution specifics05:52
DagnyI figure I'll be doing lots of installs and uninstalls.05:52
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DagnyWould a 3.2 Gb hd be sufficient?  What's the difference between Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Xubuntu?  (Hard to tell from the main webpage.)05:53
Josh43Dagny, When you get serious enough: Try Gentoo from Stage 1: it's a huge learning experience, and you walk away after a couple days with a fairly good understanding of the inner workings05:54
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jmerlinDarkMageZ, are they allowed to do that?05:54
jmerlini'm quite sure it's illegal to force your customers to use an operating system05:54
kitcheJosh43: to bad stage1 is no longer supported for Gentoo05:54
jmerlinor .. not05:54
jmerlin"you can't go to this school unless your parents live in a 2 story 1 million dollar house and you drive a $40,000 car minimum05:54
Josh43jmerlin, They are service provider: they can make any rule they want as long as people go along with it05:54
jmerlinsue sbcglobal if that's true.05:54
DagnyThanks for the advice, JMerlin.05:54
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wilssgrantGuys, I am trying to ./configure source of a program and it keeps telling me "ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO BUILD WITHOUT GTK? BECAUSE mplayerplug-in WITHOUT GTK TAKES AWAY FUNCTIONALITY"  Any ideas how to get it to build with gtk then?05:55
DarkMageZjmerlin, don't ask me about american law...05:55
Josh43kitche, Really? 2 and up? why?05:55
jmerlini'm quite certain they don't prohibit linux05:55
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kitcheJosh43: They onyl support stage3 now05:55
DagnyEr, Thanks Josh.05:55
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jmerlinit's more secure than windows and it has a less cluttered tcp/ip stack so it's much more efficient on bandwidth..05:55
DarkMageZjmerlin, but it's a known fact that if you even mension linux to the tech support... they tell you "it's a hacker os" and they threaten to disconnect you05:56
jmerlini'd figure they would promote linux lol05:56
keleushow does one go about checking a file with a .DIGESTS file?05:56
keleusmd5sum doesnt like it05:56
wilssgrantAnyone able to help with my problem?05:56
evnor mine?05:56
holycowjmerlin, the biggest advantage imho is freedom.  no one can take it away from you.05:56
DarkMageZjmerlin, this was their policy 2 years ago... i don't know if it has changed since05:56
holycowand it will live as long as its users decide to keep it alive05:57
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bioticproI am having problems booting, stops while trying to load a driver, what should I append to bootloader line to allow interactive boot, or to get to a shell?05:57
Josh43wilssgrant, Look through synaptic for gtk dev, and install any dev package you run across05:57
MrKeuneroops, help E: samba: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 10205:57
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wickedpuppywilssgrant, first what is the program ..second have you search it in the repos .. third have you read README or INSTALL ?05:57
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keleusDarkMageZ, funny thing is, at the office i work half the desk does java, linux, etc05:57
macographercan anyone suggest a method for me to find where a library is located?05:57
jmerlinlinux isn't a hacker OS.. i could hack just as well on windows as i could on linux -_-05:57
DagnyThanks a lot, everyone.  I'm going to take my old rig and see if I can get Ubuntu up and running.05:57
wickedpuppymacographer, usually in /usr/lib .. why not just tell us the library ?05:57
Josh43jmerlin, better, in some cases05:58
DarkMageZjmerlin, please tell sbcglobal that... make them listen05:58
Josh43Dagny, HAVE FUN!05:58
macographerwickedpuppy: well, i have, actually. this is the first time i got a response lol.05:58
DarkMageZkeleus, yeah, the only way sbcglobal ever finds out is if you tell them :P05:58
macographerwickedpuppy: i'm looking for the libpcre305:58
wilssgrantwickedpuppy: program is mplayerplug-in, I am compiling it for use with opera, yes I have searched the repos but im not sure what exactly I should install in the repos to solve this05:58
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jmerlinDagny, if they say anything about you running linux on that machine.. tell them they can pay for your windows XP Professional and all the accompanying software if they want you to use it05:58
wickedpuppymacographer, try this sudo find / -name "*libpcre3*" -print05:58
wickedpuppywilssgrant, mozilla-mplayer - MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla05:59
wickedpuppyget this05:59
macographerwickedpuppy: ah. thanks.05:59
xUnaBxhello05:59
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darkauraholycow maybe you can help me05:59
wickedpuppymacographer, np05:59
wilssgrantwickedpuppy: I am building this for opera not mozilla05:59
Josh43wilssgrant, the -dev packages contain all the code that apps use to compile.. it's just a matter of grabbing the right one (though installing more than you need makes zero impact, except in HD space)05:59
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keleussoo.... nobody has ever worked with a .DIGESTS file?05:59
wickedpuppyLOL pardon me05:59
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keleusi would like to make sure that 1.2gb download wasn't a waste of time06:00
holycowdark, with what?06:00
jmerlinand i would highly suggest learning the gcc commandline very well06:00
wilssgrantJosh43: thats what I'm trying to ask, which -dev packages should I install to make this work06:00
jmerlinmost IDE's i've tried for linux produce so much bloat it scares me06:00
Josh43wilssgrant, Since I'm not sure, my vote is anything with 'gtk' and 'dev' in the name06:00
darkauraokay I tried formating my mp3 player yesterday bad idea now it doesn't work is there a program for linux that I can reformat my mp3 player so it works its a Curtis 256 meg mp3 player06:01
wickedpuppywilssgrant, i can't find it on repo ... well then can't help ya there .. i don't use opera06:01
bruenigdarkaura, you installed new firmware or what?06:01
darkaurano new firmware installed06:01
MrKeunerinvoke-rc.d: dangling symlink: /etc/rc2.d/k09samba what does this mean?06:01
holycowdarkaura, formatting the storage aread wouldn't really do anything unless its in a file system it doesn't understand06:01
bruenigdarkaura, what did you do in "formatting" t06:02
holycowyou would use the same method for formatting it, you just haveto research what file system it expects06:02
bruenigit06:02
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jmerlinanything interesting on slashdot today?06:02
wilssgrantJosh43: the readme says it requires GTK2 development package which I have installed06:02
bruenig!offtopic06:02
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!06:02
keleus!digests06:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about digests - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:02
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keleusarg why does nobody want to tell me what do do with this thing?06:02
Lam_!dvd06:02
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages06:02
keleusi have a has hand i have NO WAY to tell how to use it06:03
tritiumkeleus: use what?06:03
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keleusa .DIGESTS file06:03
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keleusit has some kind of ssh1 and md5 sum06:03
keleusbut i cant get openssl OR md5sum to work with it06:03
str8edgeis this for dapper only or edgy issues too?06:03
wickedpuppykeleus, if nobody is helping ya then try goggle ...06:03
darkauraokay I think its fat12 that my mp3 player uses06:03
tritiumstr8edge: dapper06:03
jmerlinhey holycow, do you know any good sites to learn the linux kernel from early versions all the way up to 2.6.18 with information and cross-referencing?06:03
xUnaBxhello, i'm running dsl on a libretto c70, and i'm on my way to buy a wifi card for it (pcmcia or usb). What brand/model shall i opt for ?06:03
str8edgeis there a channel for edgy?06:03
keleuswickedpuppy, i tried, but google keeps stripping out the period06:03
keleusand i keep getting crap about magazines06:04
xUnaBxoops06:04
tritiumstr8edge: #ubuntu+106:04
bruenig#ubuntu+106:04
xUnaBxwrong chan06:04
bioticproCan anybody please help?  I can no longer get ubuntu to boot completely, it stops while trying to load firmware for a TVCard, and won't continue.06:04
rbdhey guys, I'm running 6.06 and having problems installing asterisk-classic ... says that libgsm and libspeex are broken (they don't even show up in my list of packages via dselect, and yes I've done a apt-get update... do I need to enable software from backports, or grab multiverse ? (coming from debian so I'm not totally sure how ubuntu orders its stuff yet)06:04
holycowjmerlin, no one would bother with such a thing.  you will haveto dig up all that stuff manually06:04
Josh43wilssgrant, Keep in mind that sometimes ubuntu names packages a little different; I ran into the same issue once.. not sure what package it was, but it wasn't in the readme... if it tells you what file is mission, you can find what package exactly contains it06:04
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jmerlin=(06:04
jmerlinit would be very nice of someone to do lol06:04
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wickedpuppykeleus, btw what do you want to do with that file ? actually what is the problem ?06:04
keleusi want to verify the hash06:05
bronaughguys, I just installed ubuntu 6.06/amd64 on a new machine; Radeon 7000 AGP video card. when I move the mouse the system crashes.06:05
harrismhello everyone, almost every game I find will not run because I have an amd64 chip. Does anyone know where I can find some good games?06:05
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keleusi just downloaded a liveDVD and i want to check the hash before sending it over SMB to the computer that has a dvd burner06:05
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wickedpuppykeleus, and how did you search on the google ? the search phrase was ??06:05
bruenigharrism, did you install the 64 bit version?06:05
jmerlinhttp://lxr.linux.no/source/?v=1.0.906:05
jmerlinthat's cool but it only has a few versions06:05
KEA0463hello06:05
jmerlini want it from 0.0.1 to 2.6.18 =(06:06
keleus".digests" file verify06:06
KEA0463i got a question about ubuntu06:06
keleusKEA0463, we got answers06:06
KEA0463ok06:06
bruenigthis is no room for ubuntu questions06:06
DagnyI have a 160 GB hard drive that's already partioned into four partitions, would it be possible to simply install into one of those partitions without losing the Win 98 install in the other partition?06:06
wickedpuppykeleus, have you try putting .digest behind ? like verify .digest file ?06:06
harrismthat is just the thing, I cannnot find 64 bit versions. :/06:06
bronaughI'd love some answers.06:06
harrismthe only games I have are what is in my repos06:06
kane_Hi i have a package that i wish to remove but apt-get wishes to remove all of XORG and ubuntu-desktop to do so.   It is not a package that should have this requirement.  Its just the nvidia-beta drivers.06:06
KEA0463um how do i make my terminal see through without windows06:06
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kane_is there a force remove option somehow?06:06
bruenigharrism, no the ubuntu version that you did install, was it the 64 bit or the 32 bit?06:06
harrismall the deb packages are for i386 and forcing the install does not work06:06
harrismoh sorry, ubuntu 64 bit with an amd 64 bit06:07
bruenigharrism, must be 64, you should install the 32 bit version06:07
keleuswhy will google not accept the period?06:07
keleuseven in quotes it strips it out06:07
wilssgrantJosh43: Is there a generic file that is needed to compile GTK applications because I don't see anything that I need to install06:07
harrismreally? :/ so not many games for me06:07
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wickedpuppykeleus, that i do not know but i suppose you can go mad over it or go around that by putting .digest behind ... your choice really ..06:08
keleusis there a %## code for a period?06:08
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KEA0463how do i make my terminal see through without windows06:08
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keleusi tried putting it behind06:08
keleusno change06:08
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keleushttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=verify+%22.digests%22+file&btnG=Google+Search06:08
keleusand look at the results06:08
bruenigkeleus, the magic of wikipedia should inform http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MD5#Applications06:08
harrismbruenig, do you know of any rpgs that I can run? I like nethack but was looking for something like diablo06:08
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KEA0463 how do i make my terminal see through without windows06:08
bruenigharrism, not big into the games but I can tell you that unless you go with the 32 bit, you aren't going to find much06:09
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harrismok, thanks06:09
wickedpuppykeleus, try this "md5 .digest verify"06:09
KEA0463 how do i make my terminal see through without windows06:09
bruenigKEA0463, without windows?06:09
bronaughit doesn't crash when I use the onboard video06:09
KEA0463yeah you know the command line06:09
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bruenigwhat is windows?06:09
keleusbruenig, er... spurious link? (totally unrelated info)06:10
KEA0463can i make it so its see through06:10
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wickedpuppyKEA0463, transparent terminal background ?06:10
bruenigwell you said you didn't know what it was06:10
KEA0463yeah thats what i meant06:10
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kitcheKEA0463: umm no sicne it will be just black but you can make it have a background06:10
keleuswickedpuppy, that wont work, it will look for the whole phrase.06:10
KEA0463how?06:10
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keleusaah oh well. im sure it downloaded fine06:10
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jmerlinany linux devs in the house? =>06:10
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wickedpuppyKEA0463, go to edit -> current profile -> effect06:11
Se7hcould some one help me on the webcam spca5 driver? (edgy)06:11
bronaughjmerlin: yeah, but right now I'm more like a linux murderer.06:11
jmerlinhow so?06:11
Se7hbronaugh rof06:11
keleusi would think it would be more common knowledge, i see these files all over mirrors06:11
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keleusor does everyone just ignore em :)06:11
wickedpuppykeleus, i suppose i am not part of everyone ...06:11
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bronaughjmerlin: just installed ubuntu; threw my Radeon 7000 in there to replace the Via onboard; and now if there's sufficient graphics activity while the mouse moves the system wedges solid.06:12
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KEA0463ok i got it06:12
jmerlinmy system is locking up once in a while too06:12
jmerlinradeon 9700 pro06:12
KEA0463now how do i erase the tile arou nd it06:13
kitchejmerlin: have you installed any packages lately?06:13
bronaughnice. which little ubuntu rat borked the Radeon driver.06:13
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wickedpuppykeleus, i can find out md5 checksum but not digest06:13
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keleuswickedpuppy, im pastebinning the DIGESTS file, maybe you would recognize it?06:14
jmerlinmany.06:14
wilssgrantJosh43: You there?06:14
wickedpuppymaybe ... try06:14
kane_Hi i have a package that i wish to remove but apt-get wishes to remove all of XORG and ubuntu-desktop to do so.   It is not a package that should have this requirement.  Its just the nvidia-beta drivers.06:14
ryan__has anyone had any trubble with firefox randomly quitting06:14
darkauraare there any generic mp3player utilities out there that could possibly help me06:14
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holycowryan__, depends on the plugins and extensions you have installed06:15
wickedpuppykane_, if you do not tell us the package name ... how do you think we can help ya ?06:15
holycowa lot of times you remove all extensions and its back to normal06:15
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wickedpuppy...06:15
bronaughawesome.06:15
bronaughwho's fahmi-lonly06:15
silvertip257hello sethk, are you at your keyboard ?06:15
Lam_if i have VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS folders on my desktop, can i just burn them to a Data DVD using GnomeBaker and have it work on my DVD player?06:15
keleusforgive the spam, pastebin broke...06:15
keleus# MD5 HASH06:15
keleus97459098b26e1b79ffb1d36f71f29197 livedvd-i686-installer-2006.1.iso06:15
keleus# SHA1 HASH06:15
keleus386e68e235c3515df02310161dafec53a3ff28fd livedvd-i686-installer-2006.1.iso06:15
bronaughand which client was that that is overflowed by that request?06:15
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kitchean idiot that taking advantage of exploitable routers06:15
deceptaconhey stop sending me crap06:16
deceptaconfahmi-lonly06:16
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tritiumkeleus: stop pasting please06:16
wickedpuppykeleus, do this md5sum filename06:16
kitchebronaugh: it's the people's routers06:16
keleustritium, pastebin gave me a database error, what choice did i have?06:16
bronaughkitche: uhh. wouldn't the router have to be doing layer 7 crap to be affected?06:16
keleuswickedpuppy, did that. didn't work06:16
tritiumkeleus: another pastebin, or #flood06:16
wickedpuppykeleus, are you registered ? then pm me06:16
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kitchebronaugh: umm it's has to do with the packet quality option in the routers06:17
bronaughpacket quality? you mean QoS?06:17
macographerdoes anyone have any experience with the server software nginx?06:17
bronaughbecause a DCC send request with a long length isn't going to cause that to wedge.06:17
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kitchebronaugh: it tries to open a port that it can't06:18
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bronaughfun.06:18
bronaughso the content of the request doesn't matter eh? just the source and dest ports?06:18
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kitchebronaugh: as long as it's a long string06:18
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RealFGHello all. I'm trying to get setup with audacity and I can't seem to find where to set the Input source to be the line in on my sound card. Any thoughts?06:19
ryan__my firefox keeps crashing any idea why or how to fix06:19
bronaughkitche: causing the packet to fragment?06:19
holycowryan__, i just told you06:19
holycowplease read goddammit06:19
kitchebronaugh: yeah but it's sorta like the router DDOS's itself06:19
jmerlinbronaugh, you a part of any linux dev projects right now?06:19
RyEINicryan__, i had to uninstall my extensions to get ff working again06:19
ryan__oh inm forry...i must have missed it06:19
KEA0463there i made the text on my terminal bright green06:20
bronaughjmerlin: not really active, though I've contributed to rewind, ltsp, and a few others.06:20
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KEA0463with a brown background06:20
kitcheryan__: most likely it is the extensiosn that you have installed but it's segfaulting which can be caused by many things06:20
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jmerlinmyself and a few buddies are starting up a dx library for linux.. which can be compiled against using the directx headers used to write dx apps on windows06:21
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jmerlinif you want to join in you're welcome to =)06:21
RealFGWhat would /dev/dsp  be?06:21
bronaughjmerlin: why not start with the WINE code?06:21
holycowjmerlin, wtf would you do something like that?06:22
holycowyour just doing the work for ms06:22
holycowfor free06:22
ryan__the only extension i have is the english language pack06:22
kitcheRealFG: it's what OSS uses to output sound Alsa uses /dev/asound or /dev/snd/asound06:22
RealFGkitche: Hmm. Thanks.06:22
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kitcheRealFG: OSS stands for Open Sound System in that context06:23
bronaughoh, lovely. I just made ubuntu crash again.06:23
bronaughthat was easy.06:23
holycowbronaugh, ubuntu doesnt' cras, components crash06:23
holycowidentify the component and fix it06:23
bronaughholycow: I can't ping the machine now.06:23
brendonjthi all  it has been a while since i have been in here how is everyone?06:24
bronaughholycow: ubuntu, as a whole, crashed.06:24
KEA0463my laptop runs great with ubuntu06:24
bronaughholycow: not even a kernel oops.06:24
holycownot possible, ubuntu as a whole doesn't exist06:24
RealFGkitche: Ah. I'm trying to set Audacity to record and /dev/dsp is the only option. But I can't seem to chose the line in for recording.06:24
KEA0463better the xp06:24
holycowif you crashed the kernel then th ekernel crashed06:24
macographernginx?06:24
bronaughKEA0463: no, actually, XP would be more stable than this.06:24
bronaughwhen I move the mouse when there's some graphics activity going on, the machine crashes and can't be pinged anymore.06:24
dragonriotbronaugh... then go back to XP and quit your bitchin...06:24
kitchethe kernel is linux that's the only thing that is linux actually :)06:24
holycowbronaugh, your graphics driver is crashing06:25
holycowbronaugh, why not fix that?06:25
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bronaughdragonriot: no, I'll go back to Debian, thank you very much.06:25
jmerlin_sorry, system locked up =(06:25
brendonjtholycow: i agree  with you there  with that06:25
KEA0463i thought ubuntu us debian06:25
holycowubuntu isn't crashing, your doing something dumb basically, pro bably running unsupported drivers on an unsupported video card06:25
bronaughholycow: if Xorg were crashing, I'd still be able to ping the machine.06:25
jmerlin_we're not gonna use wine's stuff because it's going to be a high-efficiency implementation.. so people can basically compile their dx apps on windows for linux to run natively06:26
holycowbronaugh, not necessarily but anywhoo :)06:26
bronaughholycow: Radeon 7000, stock Ubuntu. just installed.06:26
jmerlin_the d3d will basically be mapped to opengl calls.. for now anyway06:26
bronaughholycow: that's pretty vanilla.06:26
holycowif your going back to debian, ehe i think that great at least you are using the good stuff :)06:26
kitchejmerlin_: umm that's like that one project that is trying to make it so exe work in linux but natively06:26
holycowhowever you are saying some rather dumb things, if you are using debian  you should know that a distro doesn't crash, there is no such thing as a whole06:26
jmerlin_we don't want an exe to run natively06:26
KEA0463whats the best linux version in the world?06:26
wickedpuppyKEA0463, freebsd06:27
jmerlin_we just want to be able to compile a dx app with gcc on a linux machine and run it natively =)06:27
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jmerlin_without needing wine or any messy crap06:27
holycowjmerlin, why?06:27
kitchewickedpuppy ? lo.06:27
KEA0463how do i get freebsd06:27
holycowjmerlin, why would you work for the devil?06:27
jmerlin_just 1 lib, idx  indirectx06:27
KEA0463i couldnt ubderstand how to install freebsd06:28
jmerlin_when we can show ati/nvidia/whoever else that with that lib running d3d through opengl that all dx code can now run natively on linux06:28
jmerlin_we might be able to inspire them to release full blown drivers for *nix.. including the d3d support06:28
jmerlin_then we could modify the lib to call into driver d3d implementations directly if available =)06:28
wickedpuppyKEA0463, its the best out there ... the rest are way way behind it :P06:28
jmerlin_make it just as, if not more, efficient than on windows06:29
KEA0463can u tell me how to download it and install it wicked puppy?06:29
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holycowjmerlin, but why?06:29
wickedpuppyKEA0463, www.freebsd.org but i cant help ya here .. ask in #freebsd .. or pls read the documentation06:29
jmerlin_i just said why06:29
holycowjmerlin, why would you want patent encumbered, evil business model to be even ported here?06:29
holycowthats not why06:30
holycowthats just blindly stupid06:30
jmerlin_why?06:30
jmerlin_it may be done by microsoft, i'm not saying it's not shit06:30
holycowbecause there is no reason then to code natively for linux06:30
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KEA0463ok thanks06:30
holycowthen everyone will just code for windows and cross compile to run here06:30
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jmerlin_not really06:30
holycowyes really06:30
jmerlin_if just dx can now run natively on linux, none of win32 shit api will work on linux06:30
dan2are there any bugs with /etc/lsb-base-log or whatever it's called06:31
jmerlin_so it's not going to be write on windows then compile on linux06:31
KEA0463wicked puppy i thought your favorite linux would be puppy-linux  haha06:31
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wickedpuppyoh boy06:31
holycowjmerlin, for the stuff you guys want it will06:31
jmerlin_but most major companies are coding games via directx and they don't have the resources to port it to opengl/linux06:31
dan2is there a quick system recovery live cd that has xfs tools on it?06:31
wickedpuppyeh keleus pls .. no need to make me cry .. lol06:31
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jmerlin_sure wine can run games.. and cedega.. but they suck ass at doing so06:31
holycowjmerlin, a smarter approach is to keep on increasing the linux market share and convince companies that there is money here06:31
host`ya'll ever heard of anyone else experiencing problems with 'ifconfig' freezing their machine up?06:32
jmerlin_the reason they code for windows is because of directx06:32
keleusjmerlin_, i say we all donate to a lawyer team to get directX GPLed. damn code-grubbing jerks06:32
KEA0463i cant get wine to work06:32
holycowjmerlin, porting directx here is just a shit idea06:32
jmerlin_because gfx card manufacturers are implementing d3d functionality in their cards06:32
jmerlin_opengl is less efficient now.06:32
keleusdx needs to die.06:32
KEA0463iam to stoopid i geuuss06:32
holycowjmerlin, if you want to do something usefully take our tools and pull them together to give us what dx gives them06:32
holycowyou can even do it so its better06:32
keleusjmerlin_ but dont forget DX also has input and such... much more than graphics and sound (if you include openAL)06:32
jmerlin_i know06:32
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jmerlin_d3d is the hardest one06:33
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holycowjmerlin, well i assure you i won't help06:33
jmerlin_the input, sound, music, whatever else are much easier06:33
holycowand i can assure you i will work against your efforts06:33
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keleusall we need is to get people to use openGL2 instead of DX.06:33
KEA0463what is freeBSD used for?06:33
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keleusKEA0463, same thing any other OS is for.06:33
KEA0463o ok06:33
rpckeleus sorry but this is not going to happen mate06:33
hanahello what do you think about comparing ms qord and open office?06:33
kitcheKEA0463 it's more like Unix instead of like linux06:33
keleusKEA0463, i like it myself, but i would not recommend it to the non-adventurous sort06:33
jmerlin_give to us what dx gives to them?06:34
jmerlin_we can't.06:34
holycowwhy not?06:34
rpckeleus it's like telling everyone to stop using windows, you still believe it would work?06:34
KEA0463is it harder than gentoo?06:34
hanams word and and open office?06:34
jmerlin_you realize it's STANDARD for video card vendors to implement d3d in their cards on the hardware directly06:34
holycowyou can create a whole company around it06:34
Arafangionhana: MS Qord?06:34
keleusKEA0463, no, its just different.06:34
KEA0463ok06:34
RyEINicword06:34
jmerlin_if you make your own new system06:34
hanams word and open office06:34
jmerlin_call it..06:34
keleusKEA0463, its more departed from the windows world than linux06:34
holycowjmerlin, dx isn't a standard06:34
hanawhich is better06:34
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KEA0463o wow06:34
jmerlin_ox.. open X.. a complete multimedia package06:34
holycowits a proprietary implemntation06:34
Arafangionjmerlin_: Do you realise it's STANDARD for video card venders to implement OpenGL in their cards on the hardware directly?06:34
rpcholycow ms windows isn't a standard either06:34
KEA0463i proolly have a hard time then06:34
holycowdx will never be accessible to us06:34
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holycowever06:34
holycowrpc, exactly06:35
Arafangionjmerlin_: Infact, some cards don't support DX at all - only opengl.06:35
keleusKEA0463, go to freebsd.org and poke around the docs (handbook especially)06:35
jmerlin_Arafangion, you realize that there has been no modification to opengl implementations for nearly a decade?06:35
Arafangionrpc: Windows is it's own standard.06:35
rpcso is dx06:35
holycowspending any time porting dx support here is to help evil expand their stranglehold06:35
rpcand many people follow that and they will06:35
KEA0463i cant even figure out gentoo06:35
Arafangionjmerlin_: Haha.06:35
jmerlin_you realize that with every update of d3d there are considerable updates on new hardware that support those features06:35
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holycowcongratulations on helping the empire conquer yet another platform06:35
SuperMiguelthere is any way to install blitz on ubuntu?06:35
jmerlin_opengl doesn't have new features06:35
jmerlin_it's the same from when i first started coding06:35
jmerlin_to now06:35
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keleusKAEthe nice thing about freebsd is the handbook is friggin awsome. i printed it out double-sided and needed a 4-inch binder...06:35
jmerlin_d3d has gone from d3d2 or whatever the hell was back then to d3d10 soon06:35
jmerlin_nothing is the same in it06:36
Arafangionjmerlin_: Obviously, you haven't started with the OpenGL Shader Language, and you haven't looked around too much with the extensions.06:36
holycowjmerlin, whatever they have is irrelevant06:36
dubidobidooelo06:36
holycowits not open source06:36
holycowits not free06:36
rpci'm absolutely on jmerlin's side06:36
holycowits not a standard06:36
holycowits not accessible06:36
keleusOpenGL 2.006:36
Arafangionjmerlin_: OpenGL does what it does very well, and they don't need to change merely for the sake of change.06:36
keleusis new.06:36
holycowits patent encumbered06:36
jmerlin_Arafangion, name a company that writes code using extensions.06:36
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jmerlin_please,06:36
jmerlin_i know epic doesn't06:36
KEA0463so freeBSD has more info then other distros06:36
holycowits controled by a company that has no morals whatsoever06:36
holycowand you seek to enable their empire access even further06:36
KEA0463as far as handbooks06:36
Arafangionjmerlin_: I'm sure many do.06:36
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jmerlin_if you want to code an app to run on 1 card.06:36
jmerlin_sure06:36
leonsidd06:36
B_166-ER-Xerr:ntdll:MODULE_THREAD_WaitThreadModuleSafe this should never happen. (unless wine crashed)06:37
dubidobidoooi06:37
bronaughholycow: considering different distributions apply different patches to their software set, if one distribution crashes and another doesn't on the same hardware, I'm going to blame the distribution -- or specifically, the monkeys that allowed in the offending patches.06:37
keleusKEA0463, not really, its just all in one place.06:37
leonanu homework?06:37
host`where would I report a bug?06:37
B_166-ER-Xi just understood why CVS cedega is free.06:37
SuperMiguelthere is any way to install blitz on ubuntu?06:37
Arafangionjmerlin_: That'd be a pathetic extension indeed.06:37
KEA0463less questions and more info06:37
holycowbronaugh, in that case you would fit right in on #windows06:37
mineraleYay! North Korea now has detonated a nuke...06:37
leonhi06:37
holycowwhy bother even using windows?06:37
KEA0463for thte user06:37
Arafangionjmerlin_: Name a case where OpenGL even needs to change?06:37
holycowminerale, no they haven't, no seismic activity was detonated06:37
holycowtheir state new agency just said they did06:37
keleusKEA0463, its hard to say. try #freebsd06:37
mineraleholycow: ugh06:37
keleusKEA0463, i havent done freebsd in a while06:37
KEA0463to scared06:37
jmerlin_the implementations of capabilities of d3d on the new cards are much more efficient than opengl methods of simulating those capabilities06:37
jmerlin_sure the cards support opengl06:38
SuperMiguelArafangion: when the pci-e came out they had problems with OPENGL :P06:38
KEA0463i just got ubuntu working right06:38
jmerlin_but they also have support for d3d, and MUCH more support06:38
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holycowjmerlin, that makes no  bloody difference06:38
ArafangionSuperMiguel: Eh?06:38
KEA04631 week later06:38
holycowjmerlin, not a bit06:38
jmerlin_you're using like.. 30% of what you paid for the card if you'r ejust using opengl implementations06:38
Arafangionjmerlin_: By any chance, do you actually do OpenGL programming?06:38
holycowjmerlin, create something that is free open and a true standard06:38
mineraleholycow: here is the proof: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/ustqab.php06:38
holycowand sell support and tools for it06:38
jmerlin_yes, i do.06:38
keleusKEA0463, i have distro fever. i''ve been all over the place :)06:38
SuperMiguelthere is any way to install blitz on ubuntu?06:38
mineraleit was a 4.2 magnitude quake06:38
holycowdon't enable evil to propagate06:38
KEA0463yeah me 206:38
mineraleholycow: happy ?06:38
bronaughholycow: I'm fitting you into the "arrogant fool" category.06:38
jmerlin_holy, i would need a conference with ati and nvidia06:38
holycowminerale, checking06:38
jmerlin_come up with a standard06:38
Arafangionjmerlin_: Ok, then your arguments have /some/ merit now :)06:38
jmerlin_have their hardware conform to it06:38
keleuswell i gota git goin06:38
jmerlin_then have ms conform to that with d3d06:38
KEA0463if i download the iso and i cant get an internet connection06:39
holycowbronaugh, i'm slotting you simply in th eidiot category06:39
jmerlin_you think that's going to happen?06:39
keleusKEA0463, iso of what?06:39
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KEA0463i move on to next distro06:39
Arafangionjmerlin_: The Wine folks are emulating DX very nicely in GL.06:39
jmerlin_no they're not06:39
jmerlin_LOL06:39
tritiumtake it easy, guys06:39
leoni love ari!!!!!!!!!!!!06:39
Arafangionjmerlin_: Not finished yet, but they're doing an impressive job as it is.06:39
KEA0463iso of a linux distro06:39
keleusKEA0463, what network card?06:39
holycowbronaugh, it really isn't my fault you don't want to use the 3 braincels you were gifted with06:39
KEA0463wireless laptop06:39
jmerlin_if by nicely you mean like building a car engine with wood06:39
jmerlin_sure.06:39
host`http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/dprk/nuke-test.htm06:39
dubidobidoosexy06:39
jmerlin_dx isn't meant to be translated into opengl06:39
dubidobidoosexy06:39
tritiumholycow, bronaugh - relax06:39
dubidobidoosexy06:39
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keleusKEA0463, touchy. ubuntu is best as far as that goes. FreeBSD had mine too... but i had to compile the kernel to add it.06:40
Arafangionjmerlin_: Perhaps not, but that's besides the point.06:40
jmerlin_opengl entrypoints and dx entrypoints in the video drivers are completely different06:40
jmerlin_your card supports the features of d3d directly if at all06:40
jmerlin_not using them is STUPID06:40
keleusKEA0463, atheros!!! freebsd would work for you but it would take a decent amount of work and research06:40
jmerlin_even if they aren't standard.06:40
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Arafangionjmerlin_: *HOW* can we use DX?06:40
jmerlin_you pay $500 for a very good card06:40
holycowjmerlin_, if its so great why do you even bother using linux?06:40
keleusKEA0463, and you are not going to have luck really anywhere but ubuntu.06:40
jmerlin_and yet you only use 20% of it06:40
jmerlin_wtf?06:40
holycowwhy don't you just go use windows06:40
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host`ok, now question, where can I report a bug?06:40
jmerlin_because windows sucks06:40
keleusKEA0463, what you need is called "madwifi-ng" or just madwifi06:40
holycowyou arent really interested in making linux better06:40
jmerlin_i didn't say windows was great06:40
jmerlin_i said the new capabilities of these gfx cards is great06:40
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tritiumjmerlin_: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, please06:40
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KEA0463how do i get that06:41
kitchehost` launchpad.net06:41
jmerlin_you seem to be thinking that i think d3d or windows is good or has merit06:41
jmerlin_NO06:41
KEA0463madwifi06:41
keleusKEA0463, it comes with ubuntu06:41
KEA0463oh06:41
Arafangionjmerlin_: Personally, I feel that DX is a damn pain.06:41
jmerlin_the new features of these cards is just sitting there unused and idle in opengl06:41
jmerlin_i do as well06:41
jmerlin_i hate the shit06:41
keleusKEA0463, i woudlnt go very far. Ubuntu is very good.06:41
holycowjmerlin_, no i'm offended that you would even consider help a company like ms expand its stranglehold06:41
tritiumjmerlin_: and watch the language06:41
Arafangionjmerlin_: THey do some _crazy_ stuff.06:41
KEA0463yeah ubuntu us kool06:41
jmerlin_helping ms?06:41
KEA0463is06:41
keleusjmerlin_, openGL2.0 has almost ALL of that crap.06:41
jmerlin_an open-source impelemntation of dx06:41
KEA0463kool06:41
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keleusjmerlin_, nobody codes for it06:42
jmerlin_calling into drivers06:42
jmerlin_that's actually a deathblow to dx.06:42
holycowjmerlin_, the moment dx is supported on linux is when the vid card companies can go 'to hell with ogl'06:42
keleusholycow, i say screw em both and start glide again :D06:42
KEA0463ubuntu is #1 on most downloaded list06:42
jmerlin_not really06:42
jmerlin_there's too much software dependant to pull the plug on ogl06:42
KEA0463thats why i downloaded it06:42
holycowkeleus, i think there is money to be made in doing what dx does but on a cross platform and open way06:42
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Arafangionjmerlin_: Yet MS pulled the plug on DX906:42
sheawho would want to pull the plug on ogl06:43
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keleusKEA0463, personally i have kubuntu (ubuntu with kde instead of gnome by default)06:43
sheathat's crazytalk06:43
jmerlin_that's MS06:43
jmerlin_it's proprietary06:43
Arafangionjmerlin_: As is DX.06:43
keleusKEA0463, also used xubuntu (same thing but with XFCE)06:43
jmerlin_everything from MS is proprietary06:43
jmerlin_at some level06:43
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KEA0463i downlaed KDE packages 206:43
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keleusi say MS needs to be ripped open with a crowbar and ALL of their assets be made public domain06:43
jmerlin_even the "source code" they release is shrouded with calls into proprietary shit06:43
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mineraleholycow: South Korean intelligence officials said a seismic wave of magnitude-3.58 had been detected in North Hamkyung province, according to Yonhap. It said the test was conducted at 10:36 a.m. (9:36 p.m. EDT Sunday) in Hwaderi near Kilju city on the northeast coast, citing defense officials.06:43
tritiumjmerlin_: I told you to watch the language!06:43
keleusnot just open source... _public domain) heh06:43
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holycowkeleus, i don't, i just think ms needs to get out of the os business06:44
fooCan I chroot an ssh user so they can only ssh out to another system?06:44
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_yell8w :P 06:44
holycowkeleus, that basically kills their single ability to lock out competitors and control the ecosystem06:44
Arafangionjmerlin_: Even my GL book talks about the war between DX and GL, practically saying that MS used FUD to propel DX into the limelight, even though it was /awful/ (at the time)06:44
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KEA0463Vista   yeah!!!!!!!!06:44
Arafangionjmerlin_: imho, it's still /awful/.06:44
mineralefoo: look into rssh06:44
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foominerale: hmm, ok. Thanks06:44
B_166-ER-Xlol06:45
B_166-ER-Xl'art de planter en partant un debugger06:45
B_166-ER-Xwine: Unhandled exception, starting debugger.06:45
Arafangionjmerlin_: The way DX deals with textures and pointers makes things rather nasty.06:45
B_166-ER-Xoups06:45
B_166-ER-Xsorry06:45
Arafangionjmerlin_: From a code point of view.06:45
KEA0463my hp says its vista ready06:45
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ArafangionB_166-ER-X: #winehq06:45
KEA0463yipppie06:45
foominerale: hmm, I want them to have a shell, but I only want them to be able to use the ssh command to ssh out. This looks a tad different, no?06:45
ArafangionB_166-ER-X: And speak there in English, as that's the langauge those devs use.06:46
ArafangionB_166-ER-X: Though, if you don't feel confident in English, let them know that it's not your native language.06:46
holycowminerale, i guess it is true then06:46
mineralefoo: actually rssh only allows scp/cvs etc.. use this: http://www.ffnn.nl/pages/articles/linux/setting-up-a-chroot-jail-for-cvs.php06:46
SuperMiguelthere is any way to install blitz on ubuntu?06:46
B_166-ER-XArafangion i know, it was a 'wrong window' mistake :)06:46
B_166-ER-Xsorry06:46
ArafangionB_166-ER-X: Ha :)06:46
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holycowjmerlin_, of what benefit do you hope this project to be then?06:47
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keleusKEA0463, i wouldn't bother. its like 802.11n - everyone says they can do it but we just _don't_know_06:47
mineralefoo: it's setup for cvs, but you just follow the same idea to only allow them ssh... but even better you could just setup port forwarding...06:47
holycowlet me try to understand your resoning06:47
tritiumjmerlin_: please watch your language from here on out06:47
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Arafangionjmerlin_: Anyway, we'll give this rant a miss :)06:47
Arafangionjmerlin_: 'tis was entertaining.06:47
SuperMiguelthere is any way to install blitz on ubuntu?06:47
KEA0463dont bother with what keleus06:47
foominerale: hm, ideally.. this is my goal.. to allow someone to ssh into me, and then ssh into another system.. and I can set up ssh keys on his account so he doesn't need a password for the second system he is going to ssh out to06:47
ArafangionLooks like jmerlin_'s banned now.06:47
keleusKEA0463, vista ready06:47
KEA0463oh06:47
keleusArafangion, your a few lines behind...06:47
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Arafangionkeleus: Evidently.06:48
jmerlin_yeah well06:48
foominerale: Is that link still the thing to do?06:48
Arafangionjmerlin_: /query me.06:48
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KEA0463i am in college taking computer classes06:48
holycowjmerlin_, so i'm gonna try to understand why you think this is a good idea06:48
keleusKEA0463, its like how you can technically run XP on 64m of ram...06:48
olofomg help =))06:48
jmerlin_i agree dx is horrible06:48
jmerlin_i hate it06:48
keleusKEA0463, but its most certainly not going to be a fun experience06:48
jmerlin_but you realize that it would take 5+ years06:48
holycowjmerlin_, how again do you hope that this will be beneficial?06:48
jmerlin_to make a new standard06:48
keleusjmerlin_, suggesting we drop the subject?06:48
KEA0463i am going for networking degree06:48
jmerlin_a new open-source standard06:49
holycowjmerlin_, expalin pls06:49
mineralefoo: yeah, the link with chroot jails for cvs06:49
jmerlin_because there is literally billions of dollars of hardware06:49
keleusKEA0463, same. hoping for security myself. got my a+ and net+ in the mean-time06:49
foominerale: ok, thanks. I'll do that06:49
jmerlin_that supports this proprietary d3d06:49
holycowjmerlin_, thats  not an explanation06:49
jmerlin_no, i'ts not06:49
KEA0463yeah hop i get a job06:49
keleusholycow, jmerlin_, that discussion almost got one of you banned....06:49
jmerlin_but it makes creating a new standard infeasible06:49
Arafangionjmerlin_, holycow; let's carry this out in ##gfxstd06:49
olofwhen i booted up my desktop ubuntu now, i got just a terminal after i typed in my login name and passw at login screen. then in that terminal i typed firefox to gain accec to chatzilla and now im here... anyways, i think it is because i tried to start another X yesterday... i dont know what to do now, please help me bring back my normal desktop someone =))06:50
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darkaurawell I think my mp3 player is toast06:50
keleusolof, terminal like black-and-white or terminals witha  mouse?06:50
olofi have a mouse06:50
keleusdarkaura, you format it as fat16?06:50
KEA0463security guys use unix06:50
keleusolof, your using twm instead of gdm06:51
KEA0463like freeBSD06:51
KEA0463i heard06:51
keleusdarkaura, also vfat should work06:51
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_yell8w olof:  tried startx ? 06:51
keleusKEA0463, we use it all.06:51
olofkeleus: say what? =)06:51
KEA0463oh06:51
olofill try startx06:51
keleus_yell8w, hes got TWM running06:51
KEA0463etherape06:51
olofuhm, i cant alt tab to the console anymore :P06:51
_yell8w oh, nvermind then 06:51
keleusolof, use ctrl-alt06:51
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keleusolof, but your already in X06:52
olofand then?06:52
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keleusbut your using TWM (tiny window manager)06:52
zeckalguem fala portugues?06:52
keleusyour xsession got goofed.06:52
tritiumtabbed window manager06:52
keleusi forget where but it needs to be set to gdm (for gnome) or kdm (for kde)06:52
olofkeleus: yeah i guess so, since i never rebooted yesterday when i was playing arou nd and tried to start another x06:52
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olofi have ubuntu, so i guess its gnome06:52
darkauraokay I cfdisk my mp3 player set it to primary fat13 max amount of space06:53
keleusarg! stop asking questionS! (just kidding) i need to get to bed06:53
keleusolof, yes06:53
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keleusfat1606:53
keleusor vfat (preferred)06:53
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olofhow do i get to normal desktop then? :SS06:54
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SpaceFrogi downloaded a file with a .sit extension.. How do i install it, or rather what do i do with it?06:54
darkauracfdisk deosn't give a vfat option06:54
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holycowSpaceFrog, nothing, thats an osx file if i remember correctly06:54
darkauraI write the partition06:54
olofi already tried startx06:54
yell8w olof:  config your xorg init file or something 06:54
keleusolof, startx isnt going to help06:54
KEA0463the game nexuiz is fun with ubuntu06:54
yell8w i'm not sure of the details 06:54
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SpaceFrogholycow: oh, i thought i chose the linux version06:54
SpaceFrogthanks06:54
keleusolof, x is running (or your mouse wouldn't be there, or would this chat window)06:54
keleusyell8w, his window manager setting got goofed, X is running.06:55
PseudoPlaceboHi I'm installing dapper. The screen resolution is 800x600 I want it to be at least 1024x768. Also- I'm using dual-screen how hard is it to eventually set up dual screen on Ubuntu?06:55
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yell8w keleus:  that's why i said config his init file and restart it or something 06:55
olofi have no idea how to even edit it =(06:55
darkauraquit it and when I try to mount /mnt/sdc /media/mp3 -t vfat it givs this error06:55
darkauramount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc,06:56
darkaura       missing codepage or other error06:56
darkaura       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try06:56
darkaura       dmesg | tail  or so06:56
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keleusolof, press CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE and type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" - see if that helps. if not, startx06:56
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keleusdarkaura, your formatting it wrong or mounting the wrong drive06:56
PacketScandarkaura, you have to mount from /dev/sdc(partition number)  or use --bind to mount one folder somether else.  using the latter you drop the file type option.06:57
olofok thanks for tips will try now keleus06:57
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keleusI.. have to go to bed. im loosing my balance (sick or something)06:57
keleusg'night for the 50x time now :)06:57
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yell8w 9 keleus 06:58
darkaurathen I goto system administrator then disk  click on the usb mp3 player it shows the partition, but for filesystem it shows unformated06:58
darkauraI try to format and it stays unformated06:58
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PseudoPlaceboHi I'm installing dapper. The screen resolution is 800x600 I want it to be at least 1024x768. Also- I'm using dual-screen how hard is it to eventually set up dual screen on Ubuntu?06:59
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olofhey07:00
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olofi "kinda" got it to work07:00
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olofi changed session to gnome at login07:00
yell8w :) 07:00
olofatleast i have the menus and stuff now, but i guess if i change back to the other session it wont work07:00
olofdid that keleos dude go away?07:01
yell8w olof:  yes he did 07:01
olofdoh =(07:01
Madpilotubotu, tell PseudoPlacebo about fixres07:01
olofthink u r able to help instead?07:02
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yell8w olof:  i'm not sure but i'll try 07:02
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yell8w ? 07:03
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olofyeah, u know what happend, didnt u?= P07:04
dfgasanyone use vmware player07:04
holycowi do07:04
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olofwhen im logging in with standard session i get stuck at a terminal (but i have a mouse i can use)07:04
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railzwhat pkg do i need for mp3 playback in xmss/bmp?07:04
holycow!mp307:05
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:05
railzi'd search the forums, but man the new search is bad, is there anyway to access the old one?07:05
dfgasholycow, do you run xp in player at all?07:05
holycowrailz google is best07:05
holycowrailz, in google serach you can do 'search this stuff site:website.com'07:05
holycowdfgas, i run it in workstation and server not player but it shouldn't make and diff07:06
railzi know about restricted formats but does the w32codec pack provide mp3 playback as well? i thought that pkg was primarily video07:06
holycowrailz, no all of it07:06
railzk07:06
dfgasholycow, it deosn't dectect my sound card, just gives me a -1 in my vmx file07:06
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harrismHello everyone, I understand there are not many games for 64 bit users but does anyone know of a first person shooter I can play? I already have enemy territory but was looking for something single player?07:07
holycowdfgas, *hmm* i won't be able to help with that as vmware player doesn't seem to have vmware-configure.pl ... maybe one of their binary drivers is borking07:07
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dfgasi tried to install server but it says there is vmware stuff installed already07:08
yell8w olof: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg 07:08
railzok i just installed w32codec but bmp/xmms still refuse to play mp3s07:08
davinHi, is it true that I can reconfigure/rechoose the usplash by doing 'sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so' ? Just want to make sure before I invoke it07:08
railzi'm pretty sure there is an additional pkg for mp3 playback in non gstreamer apps07:08
davinraliz: try easyubuntu07:08
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railzi know of easyubuntu, and it's great that exists but instead of me running all that stuff it installs do you know the pkg needed for mp3s?07:09
yell8w olof:  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/nox 07:09
tritium!mp3 > railz07:09
harrismanyone? :/ how about rpg games?07:09
davinrailz: nope I just opened easyubuntu and only ticked mp3 support, you can write down the codecs it installs though07:10
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tritiumharrism: you should consider installing the 32-bit version for games.  You'll have fewer headaches.07:10
zachhaleanyone know a good commandline based torrent client for linux?07:11
harrismI know, I was thinking of doing that but had wishful thinking I guess07:11
holycowbittornado has that kind of interface i think07:11
dfgasholycow, any idea on that?07:11
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holycowdfgas, yeah delete your /etc/vmware folder07:12
dfgask07:12
holycowwhen vmwre server installs it checks for a file in there if its already installed07:12
holycowwhen you remove it that doesn't get purged07:12
holycow*welcome to proprietary software*07:12
davingonna try it out now07:12
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dfgasholycow, kickarse, thanks its installing now07:14
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PseudoPlaceboMadpilot: I tried everything in that FAQ, edited xorg.conf with new HorizSync and VertRefresh values.07:14
PseudoPlaceboAdded 1024x768 to the list.07:15
PseudoPlaceboRestarted X.07:15
PseudoPlaceboStill no go.07:15
MadpilotPseudoPlacebo, not sure what to suggest then - sorry07:15
holycowno prob07:15
PseudoPlacebo=\07:15
yell8w PseudoPlacebo: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ? 07:16
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wahjavahi07:18
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railzbefoer i leave, is there anyway to access the old search?07:18
railzthe new forum search is horrible07:18
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holycowrailz, just use google search wtih site:sitename.com07:18
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v1perif i want to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, should i change my sources.lst first?07:18
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wahjavaI'm running Ubuntu Dapper, with all my users are available from LDAP directory installed on the server and home directories NFS mounted from server07:18
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tritiumv1per: no07:19
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v1pertritium, i don't think it worked last time07:19
tritiumv1per: it doesn't use your sources.list file for any reason07:19
wahjavawhen any user logs in to the system, he'll get 'System->Administration' menu partially07:19
bronaugh*grumble*07:19
v1perah, nvm, that's the one w/ many prompts07:19
bronaughoh well, using onboard Via video.07:19
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bronaughon which glx is borked on ubuntu. whee!07:19
v1peri've tried almost everything... i still can't startx anymore (after the update)07:19
wahjavawhile when any user in /etc/passwd logs in, he'll get complete 'System->Administration' menu07:20
bronaughbut at least it doesn't crash when you touch it.07:20
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yell8w v1per:  error message ? 07:20
v1peryell8w, no screens07:20
wahjavahow do I make complete "Administration" menu available to all users ??07:20
Jesse1984i have been having crazy toruble trying to install ubuntu 6.06, but i have sorted it out!! i used the ultimate boot cd! its the best, i used the maxtor drive utility to 0 out the drive totally then restored a new MBR !! and im installing without a hitch! WOOT!07:21
yell8w v1per: what happens when you tried startx ? 07:21
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PseudoPlaceboyell8w: Just tried the dpkg-reconfigure still didn't work. =\07:21
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v1peryell8w, well i'm in windows now, but it would say that gdm wouldnt start, no screens error..07:21
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yell8w :| 07:22
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v1peryell8w, i'm in windows backing up lots of stuff =/07:22
PseudoPlaceboThis is super fucking frustrating.07:22
dfgasholycow, its asking for a sieral number? i tought i didn't need one, its free07:22
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v1peri bet PseudoPlacebo has the same prob as me07:22
PseudoPlaceboThe only option is resolution 640x48007:22
holycowdfgas, vmware server is free ... i do think you still need to get some sort of serial from them, i forget now been a while07:23
holycowregister and see07:23
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Roman_LogixHI... kinda a newbie to linux and ubuntu... does anyone know how to get better driver support for the ATI Radeon 7500 AGP (not mobile)... ATI doesnt support this card, they support the everything newer than this one:(07:24
yell8w v1per:  PseudoPlacebo : this is where I got it http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/nox  07:24
yell8w and http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html 07:25
yell8w i personally have not had problems with xorg so... 07:25
bronaughRoman_Logix: I have a Radeon 7000.07:25
bronaughRoman_Logix: same crap... generation 1 Radeon hw.07:25
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PseudoPlaceboyell8w: I've never had X problems before dapper.07:25
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bronaughRoman_Logix: here, I experience the joy of crashes within seconds.07:25
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bronaughRoman_Logix: are you also experiencing this joy?07:26
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v1peryell8w, nod, i did not have ubuntu-desktop07:26
v1peri did not have ubuntu-desktop when i made the update to edgy07:26
v1peralthough it was highly recommended that i did, lol07:26
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tritiumv1per: you should have had it07:26
Roman_Logixthe driver for the radeon 7500 agp wont support open gl, and I get weird lines through buttons in x... i think a new driver would help07:26
yell8w lol 07:26
v1perit's annoying as hell...screw it07:26
tritiumv1per: also, #ubuntu+1 for edgy questions07:26
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bronaughRoman_Logix: it does support GL.07:27
v1perubuntu-desktop contains ....idk... gnome*07:27
Ayabarais it possible to expand my root partition when I'm running ubuntu? it comes up as locked in gparted. I run an ubuntu vmware image, so I have to resize the partition when I'm logged in07:27
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bronaughRoman_Logix: so long as you have the "radeon" kernel module loaded to support DRI...07:27
v1perbut i guess i'm paying for my mistake now07:27
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holycowAyabara, no, use the live cd and make sure to backup before attempting07:27
bronaughRoman_Logix: and have dri and glx as Load lines in /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:27
holycowthat is use any live cd that has gparted, parted, qtparted tools07:28
v1perif only update-manager was written in gtk...07:28
yell8w PseudoPlacebo:   i'm not sure but in my system i can go straight system >> prefs  >>> resolution and all is there 07:28
Roman_Logixhow do I get it to use the radeon kernal? or what should I add to the xorg.conf to make it work?07:28
PseudoPlaceboyell8w: I'm used to that.07:28
PseudoPlaceboBut now it's not working the same way.07:28
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Ayabaraholycow, but can I use the livecd in vmware player?07:28
holycowv1per, whats wrong with the update manager now? it just paython with pygtk, how is it an issue?07:28
PseudoPlaceboI'm kind of angry with dapper tbh.07:28
yell8w :| well then i don't know what else to tell you ? 07:28
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holycowAyabara, you want to resize the partition of a guest os in vmware?07:29
holycow*cough*07:29
v1perholycow, are you referring to the package update-manager (verbatim)07:29
Roman_LogixIm sorry guys.. Ive been working with wintel stiff for sooooooooooooo long, its tough for me to addapt... the only reason im using this card is because it supports dual monitors and I got it for $20 from a friend07:29
holycowAyabara, that is something you haveto do from vmware but i've never tried it07:29
bronaughRoman_Logix: it's a nice card.07:29
holycowv1per, yes07:29
bronaughRoman_Logix: you can try a few options... swcursor may help.07:29
v1perholycow, someone told me it was gnome-based07:30
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holycowRoman_Logix, in linux land no one uses ati07:30
Ayabaraholycow, ok, I'll give it a try. thanks07:30
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holycowits a horrible company with a horrible history07:30
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v1perholycow, to run it, i would have to install ubuntu-desktop (aka 200+ mb of crap)07:30
holycowRoman_Logix, even on windows no one uses it for anything serious07:30
Roman_Logixwhat does swcursor do?07:31
yell8w holycow:  i'm running an ati rage 128 pro  07:31
holycowthose of us that have had to use ati stuff for say high end 3d animation dropped ati years and years ago07:31
yell8w :P 07:31
tritiumv1per: ubuntu-desktop is simply a meta-package.  Removing it doesn't remove any software.07:31
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holycowits just a crap company with crap products07:31
O2hello, I am O207:31
czer323All i want is a program to rearrange my music library to resemble the itunes structure.  /artist/album/track#-TrackName.  Can anyone make a suggest to a program that can do this?07:31
bronaughRoman_Logix: uses software to draw the cursor on screen instead of using dedicated hardware. it -can- fix some video problems.07:31
holycowv1per, okay  but what are you trying to do?07:31
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v1pernote: this is all in the past....07:31
holycowv1per, you have server installed i guess? no desktop environment? if so then you can just upgrade with apt07:31
v1perwhat i _did_ was filter my system out of a bunch of gnome applications07:32
O2I wonder, if i wanna do C++ programming in ubuntu, what should I do?07:32
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ghostshadow189oh , s1 help me pls . when my ubuntu boot it use taskbar of icewm . so i must change window manager to metalicy every time it boot ?07:32
bronaughO2: install gcc and some IDE?07:32
holycowamd now owns ati, so who knows, maybe things will get better07:32
tritiumO2: start by installing build-essential07:32
bronaugh(gcc in the "GNU Compiler Collection" sense)07:32
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Roman_LogixI know ati is crappy for linux, but Im tring to convert to linux... I deal with win2k3 server and winxp all day at work and am sick of it so Im tring to convert all my machines at home to linux... I still run win2k3 for all my server stuff at home, even my emac is running ubuntu now... I just cant fix this one problem....07:32
v1perholycow, and recently when i updated to edgy using apt (update-manager complained that i had no ubuntu-desktop), i ran into X errors07:32
O2bronaugh, does ubuntu has gcc in its iso?07:33
bronaughholycow: kind of hoping for it; but I have no idea whether it'll really happen.07:33
PseudoPlaceboMotherfucker.07:33
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bronaughO2: I think so, yes. but I don't know.07:33
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Roman_Logixhow do I ensure that I have the newest kernal for the 7500... just use the system update thing?07:33
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holycowRoman_Logix, yeah you don't have much choice but to either use vesa drivers or the ati open source drivers available via dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg :/07:33
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tritiumPseudoPlacebo: watch your language07:33
bronaughO2: yes.07:33
O2what ide is better?07:34
tritium!b-e > O207:34
Roman_Logixthanks holycow... I have a old matrox g450 pci card I guess I will throw in there instead07:34
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bronaughO2: don't ask me. I use emacs, but that's because I'm on crack.07:34
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holycowRoman_Logix, welcome to linux anyway, we are happy to answer whatever questions you have, there is not a lot we can do about p roprietary softwarwe/hardware tho07:34
v1peryes, one has to be on crack to use emacs07:34
holycowRoman_Logix, should work better07:34
bronaughO2: try a bunch; see what suits you.07:34
holycowRoman_Logix, if you are trying to setup dual monis, when you are ready gimme a shout i'll toss you my config file07:35
RRubinRoman_Logix: its a sad state, it almost seems sometimes as if the hardware people are attempting to make it difficult for peeps like you :/07:35
Roman_LogixI'm buying a condo and getting married so I am kind of limited to using my lunch money for my hardware now since the soon to be wifey is in charge ;)07:35
yell8w O2:  kate / scintilla 07:35
yell8w lol Roman_Logix 07:35
holycowRoman_Logix, :) hehe07:35
O2:(07:35
RRubinRoman_Logix: best you can really do is work around stuff and look into compatability b4 buying anything new07:35
ArrenLexRoman_Logix: What are you trying to get working?07:36
holycowwhat RRubin i know it sucks when you only have limited fund07:36
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RRubinwe have some new systems with ATI at work that X wont run on07:36
holycowbut what we all do is research first and then buy hardware ... its actually a healthy thing to do anyway07:36
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RRubinis there really an ideal video card to buy if you do research?07:36
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holycowRRubin, depends on what the research is07:37
RRubinnvidia is just as bad almost..07:37
O2what's the best IDE for C++ in ubuntu ?07:37
RRubinand it seems like those 2 are it most of the time07:37
holycowthere is a company making an open source vid card based on a reprogrammable gpu07:37
Roman_LogixI have the dual monitors working fine.. the config files are not that hard after fiddling with my emac for 2 months getting the video working, what kind of 4xagp card that does dual analog svga that has modern support for linux?07:37
holycowits going to be a bit expensive in first generatio nbut you will be able to reprogram the gpu it self07:37
ArrenLexRrubin: Nvidia may be proprietary, but it is infinitely better than ATI with respect to Linux.07:37
holycowso for certain kinds of research it will be an amazing product07:37
holycowRoman_Logix, pretty much any nvidia card07:38
ArrenLexRoman: what card are you trying to get working?07:38
bronaughATI is schizophrenic.07:38
RRubinArrenLex: yes. but still unacceptable in many ways (have nvidia in my laptop, and it makes linux mostly unusable :/)07:38
bronaughnVidia actually does know what they want, even if I don't agree with it.07:38
ArrenLexRRubin: unstable in what way? Using what driver?07:38
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holycowRRubin, how so?07:38
holycownvidia really has done a great job supporting us even if they are proprietary drivers07:38
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RRubinArrenLex, holycow: problems with backlight not powering on after closing the lid, refusing to swsuspend, etc07:39
v1perholycow, if i was going to make changes to my current setup (such as sudo aptitude update), should i change my sources from edgy back to dapper or something?07:39
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bronaughoh, and look at that. Via locked up.07:39
Roman_Logixany recommendations on nvidea cards that do 4x agp with dual analog heads? or anyone thats actually using it?07:39
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bronaugh2 video drivers down...07:39
holycowv1per, eh no, once you go edgy you never go back without a reinstall07:39
ArrenLexRRubin: with what driver?07:39
bronaughRoman_Logix: it doesn't matter if it has DVI.07:40
holycowRRubin, that has nothing to do with video drivers07:40
v1perholycow,  i think i managed to get halfway there lol07:40
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harisundHello! I have to compile a new kernel, but I don't have a fast enough machine ... Can I do the compilation on a faster machine and build it on the slower machine?07:40
RRubinArrenLex, holycow: basically the windows drivers check every 10 seconds that things are initted properly and reboot the video card if not. and the linux folk refuse to do that (nv driver) while the nvidia driver is broken with regard to swsuspend07:40
bronaughRoman_Logix: because DVI-I (which almost every card has) includes all the analog pins in addition to digital ones.07:40
holycowthats normal, most of that stuff is flaky as hardware companies don't really like working iwth us07:40
ArrenLexharisund: do you have access to a faster machine running Linux? If so, look into distcc07:40
ArrenLex!distcc07:40
ubotudistcc: Simple distributed compiler client and server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.18.3-3 (dapper), package size 138 kB, installed size 360 kB07:40
v1perok, i'll attempt a few things07:40
harisundArrenLex: ah .. ok will have a look .. thanks .07:40
Roman_Logixso most cards are dual head now that have both connectors?07:41
RRubinholycow: yes it does. the kernel module rejects the request to suspend.07:41
RRubinthere was a patch but it crashed on my system so i gave up07:41
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holycowRRubin, ah, then i'm mistaken07:41
Roman_Logixand one more stupid questions guys... anyone know what usb wifi nic works in a PPC ubuntu install?07:41
holycowallrighty07:41
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bronaughRoman_Logix: quite a few will. just make sure there's a native driver.07:41
RRubini need to try it again actually, i heard a rumor they fixed it07:41
dfgasholycow, are then any modules to load to get sound07:42
RRubinholycow: how expensive do you think that card you were talking about will be? more than a new nvidia or such?07:42
Roman_Logixi tried getting my lucent silver usb working with it, it detected something there, but not as a nic:(07:42
dfgasholycow, i hear something about oss07:42
CorpseFeederI just installed kino DV video editer from the package manager, but I can't find it on my computer. It's not in the applications menu anywhere and I don't know where to look for it. What is the easiest way to find where programs are installed to?07:43
holycowdfgas, your the vmware dude?07:43
dfgasyah07:43
holycowsearch vmware forums about that, hard to really support a closed source app07:43
holycownot sure why your xp doesn't have sound07:43
dfgasvmware server does it too07:44
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ArrenLexCorpseFeeder, after you install a package, use dpkg -L <packagename> to list the files in it.07:44
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myesterioushi07:45
ArrenLex!hi07:45
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!07:45
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Brydenn33my libfontconfig1 is BROKEN (installed). and so is my libfontconfig1-dev07:45
Brydenn33how do i fix it?07:45
azurealok wow...i think it fixed itself07:46
myesteriousWhy the Ubuntu often crash after installed several apps via "edgy" repository on Dapper ?07:46
Flannelmyesterious: because you're not supposed to do that07:46
azureal<aka v1per>07:46
holycowmyesterious, #ubuntu+107:46
holycow!edgy07:46
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule07:46
ArrenLexBrydenn33: Uh, try reinstalling the packages?07:47
Brydenn33ya i did07:47
Brydenn33says it cant07:47
azurealoh no! my pageplaylist addon is not compatible w/ bon echo =/07:47
CorpseFeederfanx. I got it.07:47
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salimhello guys..07:47
myesterioushey, But Ubuntu has managed the dependencies ?07:47
Roman_Logixok guys... thanks soooo much for all your assistance... I'm going to start going here more... hopefully in the future I'll answer more than I ask... I do have to say that atleast this channel isnt as bad as the ones I used to join back in the 90's, when IRC was the trailor park of the internet ;) Have a great night guys and thanks once again! Good night! -Roman_Logix07:47
azurealkidding07:47
yell8w night all 07:47
Brydenn33ArrenLex: says there was an error commiting changes.07:48
azurealnight yell8w07:48
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Brydenn33ArrenLex: any other ideas?07:48
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holycowRoman_Logix, the rules in this channel help us not get too much into the 'grumpy tech support dude' mode07:48
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holycowalthough its hard to avoid that after a while :)07:48
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O2I really want to know what is Emacs !07:49
O2who can tell me?07:49
dfgasholycow, do you use alsa?07:49
holycow!emacs07:49
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code07:49
RRubinO2: its a text editor07:49
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holycowdfgas, its default on edgy, therefore yes07:49
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O2oh, thanks, RRubin !!07:49
ghostshadow189hi all .i dont know why but so hard to understand . when my ubuntu boot , ituse icewm window manager (even my default session is gnome) , so i mustchange window manager to metacity everytime ubuntu boot . and it alsothe reason that it make the sound mute . i also try to uninstall icewm from snaptic but after that it makemetacity lose the border (i go to theme -> detail and just seecontrols and icons)07:49
dfgashmmm, not understanding here then07:49
RRubinO2: it, and vi are a special breed of editors for terminal mode that allow you to edit a lot without taking your hands off the home keys07:49
harisundArrenLex: you still around?07:50
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myesteriousthanks07:50
asdhi all, i have got a used dell optiplex with intel onboard grafic. Ubuntu is only running at a very low resolution and I cannot change it. is it possible to allocate more memory to the chip in the x11 config file?07:50
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krazykitodd.07:51
O2RRubin: what do you think the best IDE for C++ in ubuntu?07:51
ArrenLexharisund: yeah, what do you need?07:51
krazykitxine doesn't play some flac files that flac123 plays07:51
holycow02 kdevelop07:51
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harisundArrenLex: distcc is AWESOME! Didn't know I could use it for bootstrapping Gentoo itself! Thanks a ton .. I had never heard of it.07:51
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azurealbest editor ever is vi =)07:51
ArrenLexasd: if you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, it lets you determine how much memory to allocate.07:51
RRubinO2: i use vim07:51
harisundArrenLex: will definitely make my kernel compilation much faster..07:51
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Brydenn33fags07:51
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azureal!language07:52
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.07:52
RRubinO2: but its not exactly an IDE.07:52
ArrenLexharisund: glad I could help you. Chanced across it when I was looking for a blender render farm. I ended up writing my own with bash, but I filed distcc away as a Cool Thing(tm)07:52
holycowArrenLex, you wrote your own?07:52
holycowhehe07:52
harisund'blender render' farm? What's that?07:52
asdArrenLex:  I will try this, how many MB shoulr I use?07:52
holycowthere are tons of render managers out there for blender07:52
ArrenLexholycow: blender farm. Yes. In bash.07:52
harisundoh .. ok .. anyway.. I am familiar with mpi and all.. and distcc seems good.. I am going to give it a try now .. thanks again07:53
cschauerHey everyone, I have tried to install ubuntu on my computer But i'm recieving an error when it tries to load up that says that it failed to load teh graphical user interface, it's actually while I try to login07:53
ArrenLexholycow: I know, but none of them could combine Windows and Linux machines in a way that was easy for me to configure and understand.07:53
azureallot of gui failures w/ edgy =/07:53
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holycowwhat do you have the windows machines doing?07:53
ArrenLexasd: Hell if I know; I don't have an integrated card. I guess it depends on how much ram you have and all sorts of things.07:53
asdArrenLex: thank you, I will try.07:54
cschauerDoes anyone know what would cause that error?07:54
ArrenLexharisund: blender is a 3D animator\modeller. As you might imagine, the rendering of every single frame in a movie takes a while. So I wrote a program to make all computers in my network each render a part of the movie.07:54
ArrenLex!blender07:55
ubotublender is a free application for 3D modelling, animation, rendering, etc. You can install it from Ubuntu's repositories, and tutorials are at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro07:55
holycowArrenLex, got a gallery online?07:55
ArrenLexholycow: no; after setting it all up, I figured out that I can't actually... you know, MAKE anything decent. And I don't have any need or desire to use blender. I'm not the artistic type; I'm a writer.07:56
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holycowArrenLex, rofl!!!07:56
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ArrenLexholycow: so I followed some tutorials and was like, "ooh, aaah, this is faster." And then it fell into disuse.07:56
ArrenLexYes, yes.07:56
holycowi love that :)07:56
cschauerArrenLex do you know what would cause my ubuntu to fail to load the gui?07:57
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ArrenLexcschauer: uh, lots of things? Does it give you an error message?07:58
pwkhi07:58
ArrenLex!hi07:58
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!07:58
cschauerIt just says it failed to load the graphical user interface when it asks for a login and password07:58
O2holycow: I don't use KDE, I use GNOME07:58
pwki really want to install ubuntu07:58
ArrenLexcschauer: so it gives you the CLI rather than a display manager?07:58
holycowO2, makes no dif, you can run any app in any de07:59
Flannelpwk: you've come to the right place.  What problems you having?07:59
ArrenLexKDE is life.07:59
cschauerSorry, i'm a newb, CLI =?07:59
O2RRubin: you are stick to command line mode, :P07:59
cschauerIt's like a command prompt07:59
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Flannelcschauer: command line interface07:59
ArrenLexCommand Line Interface. Text prompt.07:59
pwki wish i knew what programs i could run instead of wnodws07:59
cschaueryes command line07:59
ArrenLexpwk: Linux is a program you can run instead of Windows.07:59
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holycowpwk, open up system / admin / synaptic08:00
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holycowa nice gui to let you install things from online repositories08:00
ArrenLexcschauer: log in from the command line. Then, run "startx". Pastebin whatever errors it gives you.08:00
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ArrenLexOr... tell us about them, I guess, since you can't paste. How are you talking to us?08:00
azurealstrange.. my x seemed to have fixed itself, but it still has bugs08:00
O2too many people here, if I leave for a while, I can't find my words...08:00
ArrenLexO2: it doesn't get any less than this =P08:01
cschauerhere one moment, i'll get my laptop08:01
cschauerand log on irc from there08:01
cschauerbrb08:01
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zoidbergguys i was wondering if there is a webcam chat program for UBUNTU08:03
zoidberg?08:03
foominerale: Still around?08:03
azurealaps webcam08:03
azureal(apt-cache search)08:03
zoidbergazureal: is it like netmeeting?08:03
azureali'm just telling you to search for it =P08:03
ArrenLexzoidberg: azeureal is just telling you to s... yes.08:03
anilomkarubotu, How to mount windows partitions08:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about How to mount windows partitions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:03
azurealaps is my alias for apt-cache search lol08:04
ArrenLexanilomkar: "mount" command, or put them in your /etc/fstab08:04
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bronaughok.. well, that's fun.08:04
bronaughI switched to my Radeon 9000 and crashes disappear.08:04
ArrenLexYay disappearing crashes.08:04
bronaughlikewise, though, there are no crashes on my Debian box with the Radeon 7000.08:04
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ArrenLexYay Debian.08:04
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bronaughso I have to conclude that the debian driver lacks a bug that the ubuntu driver has.08:05
patbamhi folks, is there a way to install python2.5 with synaptic?08:05
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holycow*ding* *ding* *ding* we have a winner08:05
holycow>_>08:05
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AbortDhow do i go about setting up dual monitors in ubuntu?08:05
azureali have a weird graphical bug --- every window looks nice and themed, with its title, but right above the top left corner there's a small tab-sized portion of the window's title!08:05
holycowpatbam, if its in repos sure, if not you need to find the packages or compile from scratch08:05
Flannel!tell AbortD about xinerama08:06
bronaughazureal: graphics bug :) yay.08:06
ArrenLexAzureal: can you give us a screenshot?08:06
bronaughAbortD: you should also look into MergedFB if your graphics driver supports it.08:06
azurealaye, one moment08:06
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bronaughAbortD: has more limitations wrt what arrangements of monitors you can have, but works better.08:06
AbortDmergedfb?08:06
azureal(forgot how to use scrot temporarily) =P08:06
patbamholycow: it doesn't show up when i search for python2.5 in syntaptic; does that mean it's not in the repos? ( i think that's the right spelling; python2.4 is there, for isntance)08:06
holycowcorrect08:06
Flannelpatbam: right, 2.5 isn;t in repos08:06
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cschauerk08:07
cschauerrunnin ubuntu again to see what it says08:07
AbortDbronaugh: can i msg u?08:07
Flannelpatbam: it was just released in september, of course it's not in dapper.08:07
bronaughAbortD: rather keep it in chan, but if you think it's really important, go ahead.08:07
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AbortDk08:07
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Geoffrey2I understand there's actually a way to make Flash 9 work natively with Ubuntu...has anyone tried it, and how well does it actually work?08:08
holycowGeoffrey2, well i don't know but i do know if you wait adobe has promised to release a native version08:08
patbamFlannel: i see, okay, thanks. i'll try to compile it08:08
Geoffrey2holycow, some time in 2007, at present08:08
ArrenLexGeoffrey2: Uh, no? o_O08:08
holycowindeed08:09
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azurealArrenLex, here's your screenshot -- http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2vmhxjs08:09
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ArrenLexGeoffrey2: there exists no native Flash Player for Linux > 7 ATM. There is a Flash Player 9 in development -- http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf08:09
pwkafter i fiinish my math homework i'll setup ubuntu if i can08:09
rellis[home] Anyone know how to add an entry to the menu that's displayed when you right click a file?08:09
azurealoh, another bug is that my terminal font has changed to something else08:09
ArrenLexGeoffrey2: You might be referring to CodeWeavers' Crossover Office, which lets you use windows plugins seamlessly in your Linux firefox. But this product costs money.08:09
pwki got vista/ xp dual boot now08:09
rellis[home] I want to add an option to "Encrypt file..." and have it execute a program.08:10
ChocoCidcodeweaver is crap08:10
ChocoCidthey have a 60 day beta of the next thing08:10
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ChocoCidi tried it out, read the license thing, and apparently all it is, is some shell-like thing that runs wine ;[08:10
DracoMorning all08:10
pwkso, will ubuntu still work?08:10
ArrenLexAzureal: I think that's just the theme you're using.08:10
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azurealArrenLex, nope08:10
ChocoCidstill haven't figured out how wine can be included in proprietary software like that when wine is GPL'ed08:10
Geoffrey2ok, I was in here a while back and was reading someone posting that there was some complex hack that would make Flash 9 (Windows version i suspect), run...but I never saw what the hack was...oh well, just have to wait, I guess08:10
ChocoCid!flash08:11
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:11
fooI followed this but the user cannot login .. any ideas? http://www.ffnn.nl/pages/articles/linux/setting-up-a-chroot-jail-for-cvs.php08:11
ChocoCidbleh08:11
ArrenLexChocoCid: codeweavers' office is basically wine, yes. But it has official support, some extra hacks, and the ability to run plugins.08:11
cschauerArrenLex XIO: Fatal IO error 104 ( Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining08:11
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cschauerFatal server error: no screens found08:11
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ChocoCidyeah, if i were going to pay, i'd get cedega before crossover08:11
ChocoCidi tried crossover beta thingy, it basically sucked :\08:11
ArrenLexcschauer: "no screens found" seems to indicate you're using the wrong driver for your card, or trying to use options your card does not support. Are you sure you're using the correct driver?08:12
DracoOk heres my problem and I hope someone can help, full installation with ver 6 and my network card does not work, bytes received but no bytes sent, I have reinstalled twice. If I boot up with live cd ver 6 network card works fine, any ideas ? I have also installed windows to test the card and that works fine. Please help :)08:12
ArrenLexDraco: what kind of card is this?08:12
cschauerIt did not give me an option, this is a fresh install and It hasn't brought me to any configurations to set or whatever08:12
ArrenLexcschauer: do you at least know what card you have?08:12
Dracoonboard card for MSI motherboard08:13
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Geoffrey2actually, I believe Flash 9 will run pretty well under plain wine.....I'm pretty sure I had it installed before Ubuntu melted down on me.....08:13
cschaueryes Radeon x1300 pro08:13
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ArrenLexGeoffrey: it'll run fine under Wine, but you're going to also have to run Windows Firefox under wine to use it.08:13
ArrenLexcschauer: okay, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and make sure to specify radeon driver.08:13
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azurealwhere does one change the title of a window?08:13
azureallet's say..in bash08:14
avagantWhere does one make the windows (firefox, konversation) transparent?08:14
ArrenLexAzureal: I don't think you can.08:14
RRubinazureal: if you want the title to reflect the current directory, theres some tricks in PS1 variable for that08:14
ArrenLexavagant: Are you looking for xgl\compiz, or simple compositing?08:14
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Geoffrey2and perhaps that was the hack they were referring to...some way to make Linux browsers recognize and work with the Windows version of Flash...supposedly it had been posted on the .swf blog...I just didn't have time at the time to go looking for it08:14
avagantsimple, i don't want to have to download another desktop environment i had plenty of trouble with that.08:15
RRubinazureal: otherwise, you can make a script that does it. its essentally echoing some escape charactors and the title and closing escape chars08:15
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ArrenLexGeoffrey: if you find it, please share. I'd love to read it.08:15
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ArrenLexGeoffrey: this is what codeweavers does, though. I highly doubt they would be able to sell their product if the same functionality was available for free.08:15
azurealRRubin, ah, ok... but general window titles would be a desktop problem?08:16
Dracono-suggestions on my problem ?08:16
ArrenLexavagant: what desktop environment are you running?08:16
avagantgnome.08:16
RRubinazureal: what happens is your printing magic codes that terminal emulators can choose to support.. and gnome-terminal does. so yeah. you can enable-disable support for that i think in the gnome-terminal configs08:16
Geoffrey2ArrenLex, codeweavers will make Windows Flash 9 work with the LINUX version of Firefox?08:16
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ArrenLexavagant: I can tell you how to enable compositing in X, but as for actually making windows transparent... you're going to have to google the gnome settings for that; I only know how it's done in KDE.08:16
ArrenLexGeoffrey: absolutely.08:16
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ArrenLexGeoffrey: It'll look like a regular plugin. Completely seamless.08:17
avagantArrenLex: That's stinky. I figured out how to change themes and such, and that's as far as I've gotten.08:17
Geoffrey2ArrenLex, interesting....well, if they're gonna charge for it, they'd better offer a lot more than plain wine does08:17
azurealisnt transparency a compiz/xgl thing?08:17
ArrenLexGeoffrey: support.08:17
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Geoffrey2ArrenLex, yep08:17
ArrenLexazureal: no; xgl\compiz goes far beyond simple transparency.08:18
avagantAnd I have to say, this whole sound thing feels like more I bit off more than I can chew.08:18
RRubinGeoffrey2: they did a lot of legwork as far as configuring it and testing it with various apps too08:18
azurealRRubin, ah, i'm just trying to figure out my graphical bug08:18
avagantI had sound, I lost it, I had it again, I lost it. Is this really worth it?08:18
DracoOk heres my problem and I hope someone can help, full installation with ver 6 and my network card does not work, bytes received but no bytes sent, I have reinstalled twice. If I boot up with live cd ver 6 network card works fine, any ideas ? I have also installed windows to test the card and that works fine.08:18
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avagantI just did my 6th install Draco, I know how you feel.08:19
RRubinavagant: unfortunately sound is an area thats not real strong in linux currently. theres many different standards and systems for doing it that conflict.08:19
Geoffrey2RRubin, I used it for a while before going back to plain wine...I can see they've done a lot of work to make certain programs work well with it, but several of the applications are stuck at rather obsolete versions08:19
azurealArrenLex, by simple, do you mean "fake"?08:19
avagantRRubin: I have to say, it's just incredibly unreal.08:19
ArrenLexazureal: no, I do not mean "fake". The transparency is real.08:19
charlie5hi08:19
Dracoavagant, first time problem for me normally installations run smoothly08:19
charlie5what adept packages would i need to get konqeror to load 'flash' pages ?08:19
RRubinavagant: you can get it to work reasonably enough by learning the different systems (esd, oss, etc) and understanding what is using what and configuring them etc08:19
ChocoCid!flash > charlie508:19
ArrenLexcharlie5: you need to install the flashplugin-nonfree package. Konqueror will find it.08:20
avagantThe whole alsa solution doesn't work for me, because say I'm running xmms and firefox at the same time with alsa, if I turn down the volume on one, they both go down.08:20
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cschaueralright, i did all the configuration changes, now what?08:20
holycowi would add that basically alsa is the open source standard and apps are starting to support it more and more08:20
holycoweventually the problem will dissapear transparently08:20
RRubinavagant: isnt there an xmms setting to use a local volume control or not?08:20
ArrenLexavagant: yes, they share the same configuration. You can solve this by going into the xmms options and setting "use software mixer".08:20
charlie5ChocoCid: thanks ... i will read the links08:20
avagantThere's a thing for that? I didn't think of that.08:20
Draco*bangs head in frustration*08:21
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charlie5ArrenLex: cheers ... i just added that one, but maybe i need to restart konqereor08:21
avagantIt's really annoying though unfortunetly, I'll just have xmms on esd and firefox with aoss and it seems to work fine together.08:21
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cschauerArrenLex, should I do Startx again after the configuration or?08:21
avagantAlso, xmms has some uglyyyyy icons.08:21
ArrenLexcharlie5: tools-settingns-configure konqueror - plugins - scan for new plugins. Make sure it's found.08:21
RRubinavagant: beep-media-player :)08:22
ArrenLexcschauer: of course, if you want to try starting X. =P08:22
avagantI wish there was an icon pack for all of my icons.08:22
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cschauerI'm getting the same error08:22
charlie5ArrenLex: thans very much :)08:22
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ArrenLexcharlie5: you're welcome.08:22
ArrenLexcschauer: what's the output of "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE"?08:23
azurealArrenLex, that's brilliant -- the sound thing about using software control =P08:23
ArrenLexOf course it's brilliant. It is my advice, and I am brilliant.08:23
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charlie5ArrenLex: yep, that did the trick :D ... cheers08:24
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avagantI got it to work though, esd for beep and alsa for firefox.08:24
avaganterr esd for xmms.08:24
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ArrenLexavagant: .....why?08:24
avagantI still gives me that "no soundcard" crap if I try to run them both.08:25
avagantactually i haven't tested that lately.08:25
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cschauerArrenLex the output is (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER then (EE) No devices detected08:25
ArrenLexThat's really odd. I had that problem like two years ago, before alsa was compiled with dmix support by default in the repos.08:25
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ArrenLexcschauer: I hate to doubt you, but are you sure you have the right card? Please post the output of "lspci" and also "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver"08:26
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avagantYah see the turning the sound down thing still happens.08:26
avagantI think I'll stick to esd for xmms.08:26
ArrenLexTurning sound down thing?08:26
ArrenLexYou do realise that esd is still using alsa in the end, right? x08:26
avagantturn down xmms sound, firefox sound goes too.08:26
ArrenLexD08:26
Jei61XI desperately need to get new drivers for my video card for a fresh install of ubuntu - is there some way to start in a safe-graphics mode, long enough for me to get download the new drivers?08:26
ArrenLexavagant: enable software mixer in XMMS.08:27
avagantIs that a plugin?08:27
ArrenLexJei61X: will command line suit you?08:27
ArrenLexavagant: no! It's part of the alsa conf options in XMMS.08:27
Dracois there a way to make a LiveCD with some network/proxy configuration ?08:27
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Jei61XArrenLex: won't help me if I need to download the stuff from a website08:27
avagantSee ya, now it says the "make sure you have a soundcard" crap.08:28
ArrenLexavagant: right-click on xmms, go preferences, change output plugin to ALSA, click configure, enable "use software volume control"08:28
cschauerVGA compatible controller : ATI technologies Inc  : Unknown device 714208:28
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noiesmo!easysource08:28
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic08:28
ArrenLexcschauer: that's your problem. Your sound card is not detected by the kernel. It's unsupported.08:28
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ArrenLexcschauer: unless you're running a really old kernel, I would say for at least a few months to a year, that machine ain't running any Linux.08:28
avagantIt says "make sure nothing else is blocking the soundcard"08:29
ArrenLexcschauer: is it a brand new video card?08:29
avagantbut I did all the tricks with dsnoop and dmix and such.08:29
Dracois there a way to make a LiveCD with some network/proxy configuration ?08:29
ArrenLexavagant: and you're running a recent system?08:29
cschauerwell It's a newer video card08:29
avagantUh well the computer is kinda old.08:29
cschauerthe version number on ubuntu is 5.1008:29
cschaueron the package08:29
avagantI have /.asoundrc and everything all configured.08:29
ArrenLexcschauer: firstly, upgrade to ubuntu dapper08:29
avagantI hate to tell you this but maybe I'd better stick to what I have before I pull my hair out.08:29
ArrenLexavagant: Okay, don't fix it if it ain't broken. xD08:30
ArrenLexcschauer: secondly, try the fglrx drivers from ATI.08:30
avagantLike I said before, I'm working on my 6th reinstall here.08:30
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ArrenLexcschauer: to do that, apt-cache search fglrx and install all which looks relevant.08:30
cschaueralright08:31
avagantAugggghhh08:31
avagantI have a via82xx onboard soundcard if that makes any difference.08:31
ArrenLexcschauer: "all which looks relevant" = linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` and xorg-driver-fglrx08:31
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avagantI heard I might as well just forget it with those.08:32
Jei61Xhm...08:32
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Jei61XIf I had the video drivers on a seperate disk, for instance08:32
shah02is tehre any way i can use gnome dictionary offline?08:32
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avagantI'm actually half considering finding a windows disc.08:33
Jei61Xhm08:33
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avagantYah I know.08:33
ArrenLexJei61X: what are you talking about? xD08:33
Jei61XOK, how do I start Ubuntu with just the CLI?08:33
ArrenLexavagant: what problem are you having, exactly?08:33
avagantYou don't understand how frustrating this has been.08:33
avagantEverything! Haha08:33
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rufflesthis channel never sleeps lol08:34
ArrenLexJei61X: if it can't boot the GUI, it'll fall back automatically. Alternatively, select "recovery mode" from the grub menu.08:34
Jei61XThere are instructions on Nvidia's website for doing a CLI install08:34
avagantActually that's really odd, gaim sounds played at the same time as firefox...hmmm.08:34
Jei61Xoh, it's booting the GUI - just distorted all to hell08:34
ArrenLexJei61X: the nvidia drivers are available from the ubuntu repos. Recommend you use those.08:34
ArrenLexJei61X: then use the recovery mode option.08:34
Jei61XElvis Naked Monkeys!08:34
ArrenLexJei61X: does it work with the "nv" drivers?08:34
Jei61XWhere do I find those?08:34
ArrenLex....yes. Elvis Naked Monkeys indeed. o_o08:35
Jei61X"nv" drivers?08:35
ArrenLexJei61X: "nv" is the open-source driver for nvidia cards which does not support 3D acceleration. Will it at least get you booted?08:35
Jei61XNo idea, haven't tried it, booted from the LiveCD just now08:35
avagantMaybe it's just xmms.08:35
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ArrenLexJei61X: I suggest you install it before you go troubleshooting.08:36
ArrenLexavagant: can you be more explicit with your "Everything! Haha" comment? It's hard to troubleshoot, you know, "Everything".08:36
ArrenLexAll at once, that is.08:36
avagantHaha.08:36
Jei61XBetter question: where do I find the ubuntu repos?08:36
ArrenLexThe dependencies are quite horiffic.08:36
avagantArrenLex: Alright for starters, sound.08:36
ArrenLexJei61X: they're... there. o_o when you use apt-get or synaptic, you're using the ubuntu package repositories.08:37
ArrenLexavagant: what about sound doesn't work?08:37
avagantArrenLex: Well I still can't play more than one thing at a time in Alsa.08:37
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avagantArrenLex: Even though I have everything configured as such to do so.08:37
ArrenLexavagant: is your alsa up to date? Have you hacked the config files to hell?08:37
avagantHow do I check if it's up to date?08:37
Jei61XOK, let me try actually booting from the system, might not have this issue...08:37
Normalwhen trying to upgrade to edgy, I get this:"Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found"..08:37
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ArrenLexavagant: mine played multiple sounds without touching the configs. Maybe you've actually DISABLED that feature?08:38
avagantI don't think I did.08:38
ArrenLexNormal: use a different mirror.08:38
NormalHow do I go about doing that?08:38
avagantArrenLex: How do I find out which version of Alsa I have, I got it from the repos.08:38
ArrenLexNormal: in /etc/apt/sources.list, replace "archive.canonical.com" with "archive.ubuntu.com", for example.08:38
ArrenLexavagant: will anything upgrade if you apt-get update && apt-get upgrade?08:39
NormalOkay, I'll try it08:39
avagantLet me try real quick.08:39
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avagantIt just asked me for root even though I put in sudo....hmm.08:40
ArrenLexYour system is weird, man. o_O08:40
avagantYou're telling me!08:40
ArrenLexKeep in mind that sudo won't carry over &&.08:40
NormalFailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 195.248.90.23 80] 08:41
ArrenLexYou need to do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade08:41
avagantIt just asks me if I want to install linux image and something else.08:41
Admiral_Chicagoavagant: i think the command is man alsa --verison08:41
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Admiral_Chicago*version08:41
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avagantno sir, didn't work. :(08:41
ArrenLexNormal: try this line: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main multiverse universe restricted08:41
ArrenLexNormal: try this line: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main multiverse universe restricted08:41
ArrenLexSorry, second one.08:41
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dfgashow do i fix?08:42
dfgasErrors were encountered while processing:08:42
dfgas vmware-player08:42
dfgasE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)08:42
dfgasA package failed to install.  Trying to recover:08:42
dfgasthen it quits08:42
Admiral_Chicago!paste > dfgas08:42
avagantThere's no man page on alsa either.08:42
dfgask, but how do i fix?08:43
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ArrenLexdfgas: that's all the errors it gives you?08:43
Jei61XWell, I feel foolish08:43
dfgaspretty much08:43
Jei61XNoi troubles with the video drivers at all08:43
Admiral_Chicagoavagant: info alsa --version08:44
ArrenLexdfgas: what if you install the package manually? Go to /var/cache/apt/archives and run sudo dpkg -i vmware-player*.deb08:44
NormalArrenLex: I think that did it, thank you!08:44
Jei61XMy next mining expidition will be the default root password, though08:44
ArrenLexThere is no info alsa.08:44
avagant4.808:44
ArrenLexNormal: I forget what I helped you with, but you're welcome! :D08:44
ArrenLex...or maybe there is.08:44
dfgashttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26045/08:44
ArrenLexNo, no there isn't. That's info's version.08:44
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Jei61XAny thoughts?08:44
ArrenLexJei: what's the problem again?08:45
avagantoh snap08:45
Jei61XThis time - the default for the root password08:45
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Jei61X*headdesk*08:45
ArrenLexdfgas: assuming you're installing the package as root, try "sudo mkdir /etc/vmware/"08:45
Jei61XOh.08:45
ArrenLexAnd try installing it again.08:45
ArrenLexJei61X: There is no root in ubuntu by default.08:46
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lupine_85mcphail: any real reason for el pings?08:46
ArrenLex...and bye?08:46
ArrenLex...and hi.08:46
noiesmo!firestarter08:46
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)08:46
Jei61Xwrong button, sorry ><08:46
dfgasArrenLex, how bout removing?08:46
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avagantwhat version of alsa is everyone else on?08:46
Admiral_Chicago4.808:47
ArrenLexdfgas: if you want to remove the package, try going to /var/cache/apt/archives and issuing sudo dpkg --purge vmware-player*.deb08:47
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Jei61XI feel foolish once again :-)08:47
ArrenLexdfgas: I have no idea why I just said that.08:47
ArrenLexdfgas: from anywhere, issue apt-get remove --purge vmware-player08:47
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ArrenLexdfgas: ignore previous idiotic instructions.08:48
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Jei61XMy account already has full access to everything - duhhhhh08:48
fyrestrtr!vmware08:48
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare08:48
fyrestrtrread that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^08:48
ArrenLexJei61X: no it doesn't. You have to use sudo. If your account DOES have full access, that's very dangerous.08:48
lupine_85"can be" very dangerous ;)08:49
Jei61XWell, I have to use a password for the high-level system stuff, of course08:49
ArrenLexYeah.08:49
Jei61XI'm still a-quiver over this computer not rebooting 4 or 5 times just from being on08:49
Jei61XI'm not at all sure why, but too much processing power seems to make Windows fill its diaper rather quickly08:50
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ArrenLexYou guys are more interesting than the 1818 edition of Frankenstein.08:51
ArrenLexJust observing, since that's what I'm taking a break from by being here.08:51
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ArrenLexJei: never heard of a machine which was too FAST for windows to handle. Where did you acquire this amazing creature?08:52
Jei61XGamePC.com08:52
ArrenLexAnd how fast?08:52
Jei61Xtwin Intel Xeons - 2.33 GHz each08:52
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ArrenLexFancy.08:52
Jei61XWell, since I had the dough, I figured - why not get the most processing power I could conceive of?08:53
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ArrenLex'cause you don't need it! :D08:54
ArrenLexPlease tell me you're at least running folding@home on it and thereby contributing to society.08:54
Jei61X*blink*blink*08:54
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ArrenLexSo, has everyone else named their PCs also, or am I just weird?08:55
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harrismeven though I have 64 bit amd I can install ubuntu 32 bit right? I'm sick of not finding any games08:55
Jei61XI certainly did \08:56
ArrenLexharrism: of course you can.08:56
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harrismgreat, so I can then install packages for i386?08:56
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ArrenLexharrism: I don't know if you can just magically change architectures. I've never done it. I just know that it's POSSIBLE to run a 32-bit ubuntu on a 64-bit system, as Sam is 64-bit but this system sure isn't.08:57
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Jei61Xoh, that's what folding@home is LOL08:58
Jei61Xcousin of SETI@home08:58
ArrenLex....yyeah.08:58
ArrenLexExcept SETI@home is a total waste of cycles.08:59
Admiral_Chicagoseriously08:59
Admiral_Chicagoi'm working on my own proteing project08:59
Admiral_Chicagoit's insame09:00
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Jei61XIt is, at that09:01
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Jei61XNow, what in creation is "ld"?09:01
ArrenLexman ld09:01
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Dracois there a way to make a LiveCD with some network/proxy configuration ?09:01
ArrenLexIt's a library linker.09:01
ArrenLexI don't think you need ld unless you're compiling.09:02
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Jei61Xaha09:02
Jei61Xwhich it seems I am09:02
Jei61Xthe driver update uses ld09:02
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Dracogod i hate being ignored when i ask a question09:04
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Jei61XAlright, BBL09:05
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rellis[home] Draco: Then IRCp robably isn't a good choice of places ot hang out.09:05
patbamis dpkg compatible with apt-get?09:05
KenSentMepatbam: yes09:06
Dracorellis[home] , well it is supposed to be a support channel09:06
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KenSentMeDraco: but you can't expect that people who know an answer to your question are online when you ask you question09:07
MadpilotDraco, no response generally means nobody knows an answer for you. You don't except 839 people to say "I don't know" to you, do you?09:07
DracoKenSentMe, relatively simple question id figure and there are over 800 people on, ive asked three questions with no response09:07
patbami have some advice that says to install a tarball (python2.5, in my case), i should use checkinstall to create a .deb from my tarball, and then dpkg to install that09:08
DracoMadpilot, well at least that would be a response09:08
MadpilotDraco, no, 839 "I don't know"s would be spam09:08
ArrenLexDraco, your issue can be summed up by ubotu in one short factoid:09:08
ArrenLex!repeat09:08
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience09:08
harisundDraco: first, even though there are around 800 people, not all are necessarily online and next to the keyboard at this instance.09:08
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harisundpatbam: yes. You should create a .deb file and use dpkg .. then you can use apt to remove it. But what package are you installing from a source? (tarball?) and why?09:09
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aaronMy laptop only has Ubuntu on it now, whats the least painful way to add a windows partition running Windowsxp09:09
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aarondoes anyone have advice or links09:10
ArrenLexaaron: all ways will be painful because you will have to contrive to re-install grub.09:10
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patbamharisund: python2.5, because it's not available in the repos yet09:10
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harisundpatbam: ah ok. Either way, prefix a 'checkinstall' to your final command in the installation sequence... you should have a nice .deb package (after answering a couple of questions of course009:11
Dracook heres a question, i am trying to copy a cd with K3b it copies a cd then halts with error unable to eject cd, I have seen an update or configuration change somewhere relating to ejecting cd's (i also cant eject cd by pressing the button)09:11
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cyberdreamHello there, i need to print from Ubuntu LTS to a Canon 1120 printer which is a network printer on windows2003 server, any idea ??09:12
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patbamharisund: i just used synapitc to install checkinstall; the post i found int he forum says: "To do that, you have to replace the  "make install" step with "check install" if you have the checkinstall package installed. " is that what you mean?09:12
ArrenLexcyberdream: what problems are you having?09:12
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harisundpatbam: hmmm not sure. I normally replace "make install" with "checkinstall make install"09:12
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Dracosigh, no response09:13
patbamharisund: i should read teh checkinstall man page :)09:13
patbamthanks09:13
harisundpatbam: oh ok. Just checked up some documentation. Apparently checkinstall does a make install by default.09:13
mineralefoo: kinda09:13
harisundSo you can simply do "sudo checkinstall" .. and it will work.09:13
SqueeHow do I make Ubuntu go into a text login by default?09:13
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harisundSquee: you disable gdm from starting up. 'sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove'09:14
avagantWhat version of alsa is everyone else on? Just so I know.09:14
ArrenLexSquee: uninstall the display manager. apt-get remove gdm09:14
ArrenLexor kdm or xdm depending on what you have.09:14
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SqueeUm... What if i want to go back to gdm later?  Do i have to keep uninstalling GDM and reinstalling it?09:14
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AsymmetryArrenLex, removing GDM is kind of permanent.09:15
AsymmetryOr, drastic.09:15
ArrenLexAsymmetry: isn't that what he wants?09:15
patbamharisund: ah, i see. since checkinstall is in the repos it's probably got the defaults configured correctly... famous last words ;)09:15
AsymmetrySquee, removing GDM from the startup set is a better idea. Go with harisund's idea.09:15
ArrenLexSquee: do you want to boot to Linux in text mode ONCE?09:15
ArrenLexBecause if so, just select "recovery mode" from grub.09:15
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cyberdreamcan any one help me in printing from Ubuntu ????09:15
harisundSquee: GDm is what gives you a graphic screen. If you stop gdm from running, you still have gdm installed on your hard disk (which means you can set it to start on boot up again later). If you remove gdm, you will have to manually install it again if you want it to appear on startup again.09:16
SqueeArrenLex:  I'm running a lan server, and I dont need X running through any of it so i want it disabled to save ram.  But when Its over the computer will be for mythtv09:16
ArrenLexcyberdream: what problem?09:16
cyberdreamArrenLex: Hello there, i need to print from Ubuntu LTS to a Canon 1120 printer which is a network printer on windows2003 server, any idea ??09:16
aaronDoes anyone know if there is a "Howto" page if you want to add a WinXP boot to Ubuntu system09:16
ArrenLexSquee: feel free to uninstall or disable gdm.09:16
ArrenLexcyberdream: any idea about WHAT?09:16
cyberdreamany idea how to add this printer ??09:16
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ArrenLexHow to add this printer to cups? You will have to define it as a samba printer.09:17
SqueeSo if i take off gdm i can still 'startx' and it will work fine?09:17
KenSentMecyberdream: you need to tell us what you've tried, what errors did you get etc.09:17
harisundSquee: that will work as well.09:17
ArrenLexSquee: yes.09:17
Squeeok cool thanks09:17
cyberdreamKenSentMe: till now, i tried adding it from the GUI Gnome printer wizard. but didnt work09:17
harisundDraco: bad luck eh? I can sort of understand the frustration going through your mind at being ignored.. just happens... perhaps now is a bad time for your questions :)09:17
ArrenLexDraco: try googling or the forums.09:18
harisundArrenLex: you are using Gaim? Do you know of any way to disable the "nick has joined" "nick has parted" "nick has quit" messages in Gaim IRC?09:18
Dracoharisund, no such thing as a bad time when u urgently need a solution :) im on ubuntuforums atm looking about, frustrating though because the no-eject is a common thing on all my ubuntu installations09:19
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O2Hello, every one!09:19
O2I am O209:19
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ArrenLexharisund: nope, don't know of one. Google?09:20
O2I want to do C++ programming in ubuntu, I know I need gcc or else?09:20
ArrenLexHello, O2. I am the Lord Jesus Christ.09:20
harisundArrenLex: nah .. I have tried.. no luck.09:20
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harisundArrenLex: lol ... O2 you will need the g++ compiler. Best way would be to install a package called 'build-essential' using the package manager of your choice..09:20
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O2oh, g++09:20
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O2I apt-cache search gcc, g++.      and found many results, I wonder which should I get?09:21
harisundO2: you will probably also need make (if you know what it is, good. else ignore it). Either way, it helps to install teh build-essential package since it also installs all standard development related packages nad libraries.09:21
kalmhello all, How do i change the permissions of files from console 0_0 so that they are user readable and fully editable?09:21
ArrenLexO2: install build-essential. That'll get everything.09:21
melonok - i sort of already know the answer.. but figured i should ask anyway.. is it possible to run Gnome and KDE side by side and have the ability to switch from one to the other?09:21
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harisundO2: apt-get install build-essential09:21
kalmi understand theres something to do with chmod09:21
O2Jesus ArrenLex, you are god!09:21
kalmbut i dont know the commands09:22
ArrenLexYes! :D09:22
harisundmelon: you can indeed..09:22
ArrenLexExcept it was suggested by someone else first. =P09:22
melonu can?09:22
melonnifty09:22
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tonyyarussokalm: 'man chmod', although depending on the file you may not want to do that, and in those cases use sudo.09:22
O2oh, thanks!09:22
kalmok09:22
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kalmthank you09:22
harisundkalm: do you own the file? And who all do you want it to be read by?09:22
meloni'm not one to get these things handed to me.. so i can just google this 'n find what i need yeah?09:22
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harisundmelon: KDE and Gnome can happily co-exist, and even run applications written for each other!09:23
kalmyes i own the file... its just i put the files on my home directory as root and theyre not accesible by me09:23
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harisundkalm: then you need root permissions to modify it (sudo). You could do 'sudo chown kalm:kalm file_name" to make it your file again.09:24
ArrenLexharisund: I think (s)he's looking for the equivalent of "fast user switching" on Linux for DEs. Does this exist?09:24
kalmok09:24
kalmthank you09:24
melonpretty much what i mean ArrenLex09:24
melonalthough - i'm beginning to think it's just unnecessary09:24
harisundArrenLex: oh good point ... now that's a thought ... I only know of logging off and logging on .. perhaps you could run a Gnome session on vt7 and a KDE session on vt8 ... but I doubt that would be a very good idea..09:24
harisundmelon: yeah .. it is .. you could pick a single window manager/desktop environment.. and customize it to suit your needs.. and then run all kinds of apps in it.09:25
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melonyep - i honestly thought programs for KDE would only run in KDE and the same with Gnome0