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boinkicecast2 supports ogg and mp3, no problem12:01
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Buglousewell i need to stream mp3 so that doesn't really affect me12:01
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boinkI'm not sure of the status of the darkice .deb on ubuntu12:02
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boinkI don't know if mp3 support is included12:02
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boinkotherwise, you may need to compile it yourself with the lame libraries12:02
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RobHurcmiv: http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/bz/bz_proc.htm12:02
Buglouseit is for me... all the fourms and faq and help sections have lead me to believe that as long as i have lame installed to begin with then streaming mp3 files to a shoutcast server will be no prob12:02
cbI have flash installed. In fact, I have no trouble with google video. But sites like www.spiketv.com won't let me in! That site says I have no flash. Any help?12:02
RobHurcmiv: So I'm guessing no12:03
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boinkis lame an ubuntu .deb?12:03
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Ronzhey yall...ive been having problems with my nvidia drivers. got everything installed, changed my xorg.conf file, and whenever the "nvidia" driver is loaded, it sticks on a black screen and doesn't go anywhere. anyone have an idea?12:03
Buglouserpm12:03
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boinkrpm? that isn't ubuntu12:03
LSD`boink: probably not12:03
Buglouseio know12:03
LSD`boink: rpm is red hat12:03
boinkthus, the darkice .deb may not have mp3 support in it.12:04
temperedcan I play World oF Warcraft on Ubuntu?12:04
Ronztempered, yes12:04
Buglouseboink: Lame is installed using Synaptic12:04
Nicoleguys, are you mad at me???Do you know a msn to ue microphone an web cam12:04
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`blinkapt-get install world_of_warcraft12:04
`blink:)12:04
boinkheh12:04
LSD`Nicole: amsn12:04
Ronzlol12:04
temperedheh, that'd be nice12:04
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RobHurcmiv: Core 2 Duo's use socket LGA775, that motherboard is a socket mPGA478. So the chip wouldn't even fit, much less work :S12:04
Ronztempered, in order to get WoW working, you need to install wine12:05
`blinknope12:05
`blinkthere is a wow under linux12:05
RonzNicole, what are you trying to do?12:05
temperedisn't there a commercial version of wine?12:05
RobHutempered: Cedega12:05
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Ronz`blink, are you sure? bliz never released a linux version of wow to my knowledge...12:05
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LSD`wow is supposed to work under the normal wine too12:06
`blinkw812:06
RobHurcmiv: That motherboard was desiged for a chip that came out 3 years ago. The Core 2 Duo wasn't even a research prototype at that point.12:06
`blinki will check on my wow box12:06
Buglouseboink: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/29235/?highlight=12:06
Nicoleronz: I have some friends, they have windows, and I wanna talk to them , look I gotta microphone and the cam, (can wait) but I wanna talk12:06
rcmivRobHu, thanks for the link12:06
RobHurcmiv: np12:06
temperedCan you use Cedega/wine for stuff like printers and scanners if they won't work under Linux drivers?12:06
rcmivmy hopes are dashed12:06
RonzNicole, what chat client are they using?12:06
Buglouseboink: i believe that that fourm should help me... but i cant read it qq12:07
RobHurcmiv: I found this all out from the wikipedia entries on Core 2 Duo, and Pentium 412:07
LSD`RobHu: the 865 (and probably 875) can support C2D tho apparently12:07
RobHurcmiv: and that page12:07
RobHuLSD`: You're talking about chipset support though aren't you? His mobo is not physically compatible.12:07
RobHuOr rather the socket isn't.12:07
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RonzNicole, is it MSN your trying to use?12:07
RobHurcmiv: Why do you need that particular board to be supported?12:08
tuxtuxnotte a tutti12:08
RobHurcmiv: Is that what you have?12:08
LSD`RobHu: yeah, the chipset itself will support it though unless they give it an LGA775 socket it won't fit12:08
rcmivRobHu, yep12:08
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RobHuLSD`: Yeah, that was the point I was making.12:08
ashzillaHi friends. I just got an error in Azureus that states Java 1.4.2 is not compatible with my version of Azureus12:08
rcmivRobHu, the P4 3.2 runs _hot_. I hate it12:08
ashzillaHow can I update java?12:08
LSD`RobHu: that's the prescotts for you12:09
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LSD`rcmiv I meant, stupid completeion12:09
rcmivLSD, yep12:09
Nicoleronz, I tried, amsn, gaim, kopete and kmess12:09
rcmivLSD, bad design, that12:09
RobHurcmiv: What about a Pentium D?12:09
Nicoleronz, got nothing12:09
LSD`rcmiv: the P4 in general was a bad design, the prescott was just a particularly bad revision12:10
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b03ntoashzilla, maybe u can d/w java bin ur self ?12:10
kuiperhow do i inmount a smbmount share?12:10
RonzNicole, let me see if i can get on MSN via gaim12:10
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rcmivRobHu, will research, thanks12:10
LSD`kuiper: umount /mount/point like any other12:10
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kuiperLSD' thank u12:10
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LSD`rcmiv: you'll have to replace the mobo but the Core 2 Duos are the way to go12:11
RobHurcmiv: You can get a Core 2 Duo compatible mobo for 45 dollars (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813185086) ... I assume you are american12:11
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Nicoleronz, I can use all of 'em , but I wanna listen and talk with my nice voice, u knw what i mean12:11
Ronzhey Nicole, i just used gAIM and got on msn. when you added the account, did you pick the drop down box for msn?12:11
RonzNicole, i know what you mean. have you tried jabber by chance?12:11
rcmivProbably will drop a new mobo and go c2d, yes I'm in the u.s.12:12
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LSD`lol, jabber's a solution looking for a problem12:12
Nicoleronz, what's jabber12:12
LSD`RobHu: PC Chips? ugh...12:12
RobHurcmiv: Core 2 is a fantastic chip, I have a Pentium D 805 which is the gen before12:12
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RonzNicole, its also another client. i haven't messed with it, but its worth a try. =)12:12
RobHurcmiv: More than enough for me though - I don't really see why most users need dual core12:12
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RobHuLSD`: Agreed, but I just wanted to show how cheap a mobo would cost, and I assume from his question that he wants to spend as little as possible :P12:13
keegan_!restricted12:13
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:13
RobHuNow before I wander off does anyone have any idea how to stop my screen blanking?12:13
ashzillaWhat package file should I install to have the most updated java version.12:13
LSD`RobHu: Still, PC CHips...12:13
anon32ashzilla, libgcj I think..12:13
RobHurcmiv: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?SrchInDesc=core&Page=1&Category=20&Nty=1&N=2010200280&Submit=ENE&Subcategory=28012:14
RobHurcmiv: You might also want to search for 775...12:14
ashzilla!java12:14
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository12:14
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nominVideoDownloader  https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2390/12:14
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ashzillaFuck. 80MB just for the java runtime environemnt.12:15
ashzillaD:12:15
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johny5Anyone know of any good native linux dictation utilities?12:15
anon32ashzilla, language and that's dependencies, right?12:15
RobHuashzilla: It /is Java/ :-) Imagine how little memory you'll have soon :-P12:15
joejaxx!language12:15
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.12:15
kuiperLSD' thanks with that my small shitty media center box is complete!12:15
ashzillaRobHu: hahahahahhah, I'm a CS student at UCI, and all we've worked with the first 2 years is java/scheme12:16
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ashzillaEveryone always bashes java... I'm a novice myself, so I just follow the bandwagon :D12:16
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kuiperexit12:17
LSD`kuiper: np12:17
youserhey guys12:17
RobHuashzilla: It is something of a beast http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/gp4/benchmark.php?test=all&lang=all&calc=Calculate&xfullcpu=0&xmem=1&xloc=0&binarytrees=1&chameneos=1&message=1&fannkuch=1&fasta=1&knucleotide=1&mandelbrot=1&nbody=1&nsieve=1&nsievebits=1&partialsums=1&pidigits=1&recursive=1&regexdna=1&revcomp=1&spectralnorm=1&hello=0&sumcol=112:17
youseri cant get ctcp xdcc send commands to work in gnome xchat or lostirc12:17
rcmivCore 212:17
RobHuashzilla: Java is a great language, but it has certain drawbacks - memory usage is probably the main one.12:17
youseranyonek now o a real good irc client for ubuntu that i can download stuff with ctcp12:18
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LSD`youser: irssi :P12:18
b03ntois it really 80 MB, thats huge...12:18
zenityouser: those commands should work in any client12:18
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youserhmm12:18
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loper06speaking about java. whats an alternative torrent client that manages multiple torrents as an alt. to azerues.12:19
LSD`loper06: rtorrent12:19
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johny5loper06, freeloader12:19
jester45loper06: or ktorrent12:19
ashzillaRobHu: So C and C++ are both languages that leave more efficient memory footprints?12:19
LSD`loper06: it's text mode, you just put it in a screen session and let it do its thing in the bg12:19
Xavier101azureuas is still the best on features12:19
Xavier101ktorrent is pretty good as well12:20
jester45loper06: or ctorrent (cui)12:20
LSD`Xavier101: tru dat12:20
loper06what has the lowest memory footprint btw12:20
loper06and is gui12:20
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jester45loper06: i say ctorrent12:20
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jester45o ctorrent is cui12:20
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ashzillaI wish they'd port Utorrent to the Unixes12:20
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loper06thx12:21
LSD`I'd use Az over utorrent depsite the java fottprint12:21
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ashzillajester45: by cui do you mean cli?12:21
LSD`I can't stand the way utorrent manages it's queue12:21
jester45i would use utorrent over az becuaSE i know utorrent very well12:21
jester45ashzilla: yea sorry12:21
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Jei61XHello all - Question!12:22
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joejaxx!ask12:22
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:22
jester45LSD`: you just have to set it up good12:22
joejaxxjester45: what is your question :)12:22
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THX-1138jester45 - Did you know there is a game hidden inside utorrent?12:22
youseris there any chan onthis serverwheni coulddownload a file through ctcp?12:22
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THX-1138Tetris12:22
jester45LSD`: hint hint advanced options12:23
jester45joejaxx: no i didnt12:23
joejaxxjester45: ?12:23
Jei61XI am going to need Ubuntu-compatible drivers for an NVidia graphics card and a SoundBlaster X-Fi sound card - where should I be looking?12:23
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SAM_themanyo hommies12:23
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THX-1138!soundblaster12:23
ubotusoundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth12:23
jester45joejaxx: i didnt know there was a hiddin game12:23
LSD`jester45: been there, done that, no "move to top" or "move to bottom" options. in fact, the ability to move torrents around at all seems to have disappeared in the latest version. The buttons are still there thye just don't work12:23
nomin"Download videos from Youtube, Google, Metacafe, iFilm, Dailymotion, Pornotube... and other 60+ video sites ! And all embedded objects on a webpage (movies, mp3s, flash, quicktime, etc) ! Directly !12:24
nomin"   VideoDownloader:  https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2390/12:24
nominthat's a good plugin for anyone that's interested12:24
joejaxx!ops12:24
ubotuHelp! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!12:24
Seveasjoejaxx, ?12:24
joejaxxSeveas: spamming12:24
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ged_anyone know why "aplay -D default /usr/share/firefox/res/samples/test.wav" would work but aplay -D hw:0,0 /usr/share/firefox/res/samples/test.wav"12:24
ashzillaso I just downloaded the most recent Java runtime enviroment package, but Azureus still states it is not compatable with java 1.4.2, what am I doing wrong?12:24
Seveassaw it, thanks!12:24
joejaxxSeveas: you are most welcome12:24
ged_would not?12:24
Jei61XI was afraid of that... Mine's not supported, just yet12:24
Jei61XAs for the video card?12:25
host1lightning--12:25
THX-1138Jei61X:  > nvidia12:25
jester45anyone here want to teach (or write for) me a shell script to load a few diffrent things at once12:25
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Jei61Xmeaning they make their own drivers... *headdesk*12:26
ashzillaso I just downloaded the most recent Java runtime enviroment package, but Azureus still states it is not compatable with java 1.4.2, what am I doing wrong?12:26
jribjester45: thing1; thing2; thing3; ...12:26
jester45jrib: i dont know anything about shell scripting12:26
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jribjester45: that's it12:26
LSD`thing1 && thing2 && thing3 might be better as && causes it to bomb out if there's an error12:27
host1ashzilla, does apt not automatically recomend the needed packages?12:27
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THX-1138Jei61X: nvidia-glx - will give you accesleration. - adding  "option" "RenderAccel" "true" will i think make it faster12:27
ashzillahost1: No, it doesn't.12:27
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__mikemHey seveas, as much as I hate spammers, I think I just might use nomin's plugin, it looks like I might be able to use it12:27
host1which ubuntu you using?12:27
Jei61XFantastic!12:27
ashzillahost1: I just used the package suggested by !java and restarted Azureus.12:27
ashzillahost1: Yet it still says it is not compatible with Azurues (java 1.4.2)12:28
THX-1138Jei61X: add it justinside and  below the card description12:28
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jribjester45: here, try this on your command line:   firefox; gaim12:28
host1ashzilla: which ubuntu you using?12:28
netster403This is an urgent message:  Adc-elites, a popular fansub for OnePiece is urgently looking for a new translator, for more information see http://www.adc-heaven.com .  ThankYa ;)12:28
ashzillahost1: dapper12:28
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Jei61XThanks for the help!12:28
ClayGanyone here use a motorola router? and can tell me how to reset it to factory settings from buttons on the outside?12:28
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jester45so do this as an example firefox && azureus && thunderbird && gaim && xfmedia12:28
host1oops12:29
ClayGi lost the password12:29
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ashzillaEwwww. People who "like to be different" aren't different at all; there's a slew of people who like to be different.12:29
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jester45true true12:29
ashzillaPeople who know what they like are not afraid to honestly express themselves are different.12:30
host1who's the conformist, the people that are different to be different, or the everyday person considered the conformist?12:30
jester45the only way to be diffrent is to be the same12:30
ZarephathAnyone in here have mouse trouble in edgy? I know there is a channel for this...they didn't respond12:30
host1the only thing that is constant is change12:30
RobHuashzilla: Mmm... these benchmarks show the results with the best implementations for those problems that people have submitted. It is reasonable to assume therefore that the answer to your question is yes.12:30
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LSD`Zarephath: I'll let you know when my upgrade is done :P12:31
ashzillaRobHu: I like your logic. Woot.12:31
ashzillaSo Ubuntu kiddies12:31
RobHuashzilla: Heh12:31
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ashzillaWhat Java package do I need to update to get Azureus working.12:31
youseri liketo be me12:31
Homerhow do I compile the gnu compiler12:31
RobHuashzilla: Java has several disadvantages but added to those is the problem that the virtual machine requires a lot of memory. Hence "Hello world" will use several MB.12:31
Homerif I don't have the compiler to compile with12:31
SeveasHomer, with a compiled version of itself12:32
hobbesmasterHomer: do you just want to install it?12:32
Homerdid gcc compile itself?12:32
RobHuHomer: (the first 'compilers' were compiled by hand)12:32
RobHuHomer: (this is called bootstrapping)12:32
__mikemHey Seveas, as much as I hate spammers, I think I am going to use that guys video plugin12:32
Seveas__mikem, feel free to do so ;)12:32
youserim feelin pretty synaptic today12:32
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ashzillaSeveas: Do you know what java package I would need updated to fix Azureus? It states it is not compatable with Java 1.4.212:33
youserget java 1.512:33
youserthats just a suggestion12:33
ashzillayouser: what package is that?12:33
SeveasAshex, sun-java5-jre12:33
youseri have no supporting information to tell you get 1.512:33
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youserbesides that i have it12:33
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youserhey what the f is irssi anyways/12:34
youserubuntu says i have it installed12:34
youserbut i dont sees i12:34
youserit12:34
ashzillaAlright, so apparently no one wants to tell me. I'll just resort to using machines.12:34
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ashzilla(google)12:34
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youserashzilla ubuntuforums.org12:35
youserthat place kicks ass u fcan find almost any ubuntu help you need12:35
lakioI'm somewhat new to ubuntu. I have intellij IDEA in my /home/username/apps/idea-5755/bin/idea.sh ----when I create an alacarte menu item here, it doesn't run. what gives??12:35
jribyouser: irssi runs in your terminal12:35
youserso itsnot an irc client/12:35
youser?12:35
jribyouser: yes, it is an irc client12:35
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youserdoes it run alone/12:36
jribyouser: yes?12:36
youseror i do i need "sarge"?12:36
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ZarephathLSD': If you do have mouse issues reboot into the dapper kernel....then you can update...I just did this and saw a update to xorg-input-mouse12:36
jribyouser: I don't know what you mean12:36
youserhmm12:36
youseri cant find this myster irc client12:36
ZarephathLSD': Plus my mouse worked ;-P12:37
jribyouser: type 'irssi' in a terminal12:37
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Tussiushey all12:37
LSD`Zarephath: I'm still knee-depp in the dist-upgrade12:37
Tussiusis it normal for firefox to be slower on ubuntu than on windows?12:37
youserlolthaks dude12:37
yousernever thought of that12:37
youserduh12:37
youserim an idiot12:37
jribyouser: http://myfiles.neu.edu/ribeiro.j/public/Screenshot-%7E.png12:37
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joejaxxTussius: which version12:38
ZarephathLSD': Bummer...I heard there are issues doing a manual edit of the repos...then doing dist-upgrade..good luck!12:38
Tussiusjoejaxx: The newest (6.0.6, also updated firefox)12:38
totall_6_7Tussius: i have found firefox to be faster on ubuntu than on windows12:38
youserwow this manual setup stuff is krazy12:38
LSD`Zarephath: I'll see when I get there12:38
jribyouser: irssi.org has good docs to get started12:38
Zarephathtotall: I have found windows to run faster in vmware :-O12:39
Ronzhey yall, ive been having a time getting nvidia drivers to work...all it will do is load up, and stick at a black screen. nayone have an idea?12:39
lakioanyone?12:39
youserhttp://irssi.org/documentation/startup#c1think ve foudn them now12:39
joejaxxTussius: the newer one is faster12:39
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joejaxxTussius: the other thing is what are youreffering too when you are talking about "faster"12:39
Tussiusjoejaxx: but the actual browser is normal, but it takes a long time to load non-cached sites12:39
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joejaxxTussius: make sure your firefox settings are the same for both12:40
joejaxxand then test it12:40
TussiusI deleted windows :p12:40
joejaxxTussius: haha well nevermind then12:40
srafxcan anyone help with a dual head ati big desktop?..running into weird problems..but so close12:40
youserany good irc clients that you dont have to do everything through code/12:40
Ronznvidia drivers...anyone, anyone?12:40
LSD`youser: nope :P12:40
Ronzyouser, xchat12:40
youserlol12:40
youserim on xchat12:41
LSD`Ronz: xchat's dodgy :P12:41
TussiusI also get "splash error" when I try to run a java program with sunjava (same program worked fine in windows)12:41
youseri just wanna ctcp properly12:41
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ashzillawhat is the . and .. that ls -hag returns in every folder?12:41
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joejaxx!tell Ronz about nvidia12:41
youserbtw this galeon web browser kicks ass12:42
youserno problems with javaor flash as mozilla gave me12:42
LSD`youser: you realise it's just a front to mozilla/firefox ;)12:42
Ronzjoejaxx, been through that one. i have tried every wiki that google comes up with12:42
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youseri dunno man12:42
joejaxxRonz: :\12:42
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youserbut it seems to work better than mozilla12:42
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ashzillaWHAT THE HECK!12:43
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srafxanyone using big desktop on a dual head ati card?12:43
LSD`youser: it plugs into the rendering engine12:43
fluxinatoryouser its mozila based12:43
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yousercool12:43
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LSD`youser: try removing mozilla and/or firefox and ten bucks says you'll see galeonin the list of stuff it wants to remove12:43
yousermust be my script blocker giving me unseen flash and java problems12:43
ZarephathAnyone know how to fix the error message in edgy that says it can't find icon evolution 2.6?12:43
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ZarephathNevermind...got it..12:44
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youserwell im off to find more techno to download off irc12:45
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maxLFcan someone send me to the current howto for installing and running world of warcraft?12:45
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Tru7hWhen I try to sign onto MSN using Gaim, the window closes immediately after logging in.12:46
Tru7hCan anybody help?12:46
NormalIs there a reason that I can only use 2.6.12-9-386, as 2.6.15* always freeze when loading kernel..?12:46
fluxinatorTru7h see the gaim website12:46
youserBEEP packetnews12:46
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maxLF!Wow12:47
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php12:47
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youserman has anyone ever won at connect 4 against ubuntu?12:47
maxLFyouser I ahve12:48
Normalhow bout this: Where can I download the 2.6.12-9-386 header files?12:48
maxLF!world of warcraft12:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about world of warcraft - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:48
youserseriously/12:48
maxLF:/ Anyone know how to install world of warcraft in ubuntu???12:48
youserthat game is ridiculously hard evenon level 112:48
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maxLF:/ Anyone know how to install world of warcraft in ubuntu???12:49
hobbesmastermaxLF - hand transgaming $15 and ask them :)12:49
maxLFtransgaming?12:49
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fluxinatorTru7h beta 3 fixes the msn issue. Compile it12:50
Tussiushm, FF is really fast, but the net seems slower than on windows :/12:50
maxLFhobbesmaster -  doesn't cedega have a monthly fee?12:50
Tru7hfluxinator: I'll do that.12:50
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ChocoCidno, that's just for support12:50
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ChocoCidyou can pay it one-shot, install cedega and whatever, and there you go12:50
mumbleslaptopok is there a other option that tells ubuntu to install ?12:50
ruhow to start svn server in ubuntu ?12:50
joejaxx!svn12:51
ubotusvn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/12:51
joejaxxru there is not a service for it?12:51
joejaxxin the list?12:51
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runo..12:51
youserman i have fun with linux spending a day trying to do something id do normally in 5minutes on windows12:52
rubut subversion package installed12:52
youserits an adventure12:52
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Zoffix!compiz12:52
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems12:52
SinnerGI get this error on ubuntu => "rndc: connection to remote host closed"12:53
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ruand how to delete servives which i already deleted throught synaptic from services list?12:53
youserfor soe reason my xchat wont receive file transfers?12:54
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fluxinatorfirewalled?12:54
youserah yes12:54
youseri use firestarter12:54
youserhow can i set up irc round that?12:55
mumbleslaptop!boot12:55
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto12:55
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fluxinatorpolicy12:55
youseri keep gettignhit fom unknown connections including from 127.0.0.1 while im alreadyconnected12:56
youserhence the firewall12:56
fluxinatorgo to the policy tab12:56
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kitcheyouser: well you will setup a policy for iptables since firestarter is just a frontend to iptables in reality12:56
zachhalehow do i upgrade my kernel?12:56
kitcheyouser: well 127.0.0.1 is your own machine12:56
fluxinatorallow service, port 666712:56
LjLzachhale: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" should do, if there's a newer kernel available12:57
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mumbleslaptopok i need to force ubuntu to install12:57
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Ronzhey, the nvidia drivers on my computer seem to be broken. ive gone through every tutorial, installed nvidia-glx, changed my xorg.conf file, and when i load it up...the screen stays black and doesn't load. has anyone heard of the black screen problem?12:57
youseryeah but i shouldnt have 2 instances of 127.0.0.112:57
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fluxinatorkitche then what would he use to configure iptables?12:57
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kitchefluxinator: he can use firestarter as I said it's just a frontend to iptables12:58
mumbleslaptop.g ubuntu force install12:58
mumbleslaptopoh bot dosent do that12:58
youseri addedto my policies12:59
youserit did try to receive this time12:59
youserthough it failed12:59
kitcheRonz: pastebin your Xorg.0.log file it's in /var/log12:59
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youserasirc always does12:59
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zachhaleLjL: know if there's a way to upgrade to a 2.6.18 kernel?01:01
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LjLzachhale: not one officially supported by Ubuntu. you could certainly just go and compile your own... or possibly you might find a pre-built unofficial .deb if you google a bit. i wouldn't do that, but...01:02
ks1does anyone know what happened to the developement forum?01:02
zachhaleLjL: okay thanks for the info01:02
Ronzkitche, the error i was getting was "failed to load nvidia kernel module"01:02
kitcheRonz: ah ok try sudo modprobe nvidia see if that helps01:03
mumbleslaptopok - last go before i give up with linux on my desktop01:03
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Ronzok, hold on01:03
kitchemubleslaptop what's wrong exactly?01:03
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mumbleslaptopone sec booting it up again01:03
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mumbleslaptopi had a copy of ubuntu installed but then widnows fucked up - after a reinstall of windows i went to install ubuntu01:04
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DBOmumbleslaptop, please dont swear01:04
yarddog!language01:05
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.01:05
mumbleslaptopi click on the install on the desktop version and it gets to starting enterprise voluem managment system01:05
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mumbleslaptopthen i get buffer io errer on device dm-1 logical block blah01:05
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mumbleslaptopand ata1 anslated ata stat/err01:05
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mumbleslaptopwich i assume is the hdds01:06
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lakioany idea how I can add intellij to the menu with alacarte?01:06
erickmHello room, does anyone know of a N64 emulator for 64 bit architecture? Mupen64 does not open and I've tried win32 emulators under wine but that was a joke. :/01:06
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mumbleslaptopth live cd crashes at that point as well01:06
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mumbleslaptopand knoppix crashes when i try and use qtparted01:07
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mumbleslaptopany help would be much apprechated01:07
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mike__hello im a newbie and i need help01:08
kitchemumbleslaptop you using the livecd?01:08
mumbleslaptopi have done in the past01:08
mike__my sound is gone all of a sudden01:08
mumbleslaptopthis one was the 6.0.6 desktop version01:08
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mike__i was tryiong to switch my sound devices and now i dont have any at all01:09
mike__sound*01:09
mike__any suggestions?01:09
kitchemike__: try in a console sudo alsaconfig01:09
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mike__ok thx01:09
RopechoborraA program to make .gif's ??01:09
mumbleslaptopcreentley trying knoppix live cd 5.0 couse i havent got a working ubuntu one01:10
Dr_willisRopechoborra,  lots of them can.. .or you can convert images to givs01:10
Dr_willisRopechoborra,  try the GIMP01:10
mike__sudo: alsaconfig: command not found01:10
mike__:/01:10
RopechoborraBut... i want to make a secuence of images..01:10
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mike__kitche: sudo: alsaconfig: command not found01:10
kitchemike__: sorry it's alsaconf01:11
mike__oh01:11
Dr_willisI do belive gimp has a animation feature.. never used it however.01:11
RopechoborraDr_willis how can i do (with gimp) to make a secuence of images?01:11
fooerr, how can I bunzip2 a file? bzip2 file.bz2 dir/* doesn't seem to work and I can't seem to find it in the man page, gah01:11
Dr_willis!info unz01:11
ubotuPackage unz does not exist in any distro I know01:11
mike__kitche: thats not found either01:11
mumbleslaptopkitche,  knoppix live cd messes up as well01:11
Dr_willis!info unp01:11
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ubotuunp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (dapper), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB01:11
kitchemike__: ok it seems like you don't have alsa installed so it must be oss your mixer sees no sound devices?01:12
Dr_willisfoo,  try bunzip2?01:12
fooDr_willis: Same command? bzip2 is the same thing, I think01:12
mike__no it sees them. it was working earlier today01:12
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Dr_willisfoo,  it defaults ot useing the extract option i belive01:12
kitchemike__: see if anything is muted01:12
ashzillaOkay, so I've followed the instructions and just made a deb of the most recent java runtime enviroment update yet Azureus still says java is running 1.4.201:12
ashzillaWhat the heck do I do to get this working!01:12
fooDr_willis: right... I want to compress.. the man page either sucks or I can't find it for the life of me01:13
mike__kitche: nothings muted01:13
mike__at least i dont think01:13
mike__im looking in volume control.. is tha tright (newb)01:13
kitchefoo it's bzip2 -z <filenames>01:13
fookitche: gah, thanks01:14
Dr_willis-z --compress       force compression01:14
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Dr_willisIf invoked as `bzip2', default action is to compress. as `bunzip2',  default action is to decompress.01:14
mumbleslaptopok google dosent help me01:14
youserif only they made propellerheads reason for linux i could delete windows01:14
mister_robotoashzilla: did you run update-java-alternatives?01:14
elite_hackerI'm using an IBM thinkpad and the video is kind of choppy when I try to play movies in X, but movies play just fine when I boot into windows.  What do I need to do to fix this?01:15
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mumbleslaptopkitche,  any ideas ?01:16
SourcemageHi all, I'm in the middle of installing ubuntu (my first distribution) and was wondering how to setup my swap partition?01:16
Sourcemagei read it's supposed to be approx double the ram but not above 500mb ?01:16
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Sourcemagebut i have 768mb ram soo ...01:16
host1how do you connect without using dhc?01:16
ashzillamister_roboto: no01:16
Nicolepla hlp me His pls I need help, I installed mercury msn , but I can't open it , 'cos I get a fatal error01:16
fookitche: hm, bzip2 -z tothisfile.bz2 thisdir/ throws an error. strange01:16
host1I want to use a static IP01:16
ashzillamister_roboto: what do I need to do with update-java-alternatives01:17
mumbleslaptopuh oh  i think i just lost my backup disks01:17
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mister_robotoashzilla: that will rewrite some soft links so that when you run java stuff, it will run the jvm of your choice01:17
tonyyarussoThere be some black magic going on here...N-M shows no network connected, but I have internet access...01:17
mumbleslaptophdd01:17
kitchefoo: bzip2 can only do files not directories01:17
mike__kitche: nothings muted but i still have no sound01:17
jribSourcemage: 500 is fine, you probably won't end up using it much.  I have a gb with 512mb of ram and never use the swap so it's a waste01:17
mister_robotoashzilla: you need to run it01:17
fookitche: ahh, ok.01:17
ashzillamister_roboto: it gives me a usage, what should I enter to update to 1.501:17
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mister_robotoashzilla: i think you need to be root so "sudo update-java-alternatives"01:17
Sourcemagejrib how am i able to tell whether my system is using swap or not?01:17
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Dr_willis'free' command shows memory ussage01:18
jribSourcemage: free -m  for friendly numbers01:18
kitchemike__: well have you tried undoing what you did before?01:18
host1ashzilla: do you have all the right repositories set up?01:18
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ashzillamister_roboto: nope, still nothing, just gives me usage01:18
ashzillahost1: yes01:18
host1nvm01:18
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jribSourcemage: since this is your first distro, I don't know if you're somewhat familiar with the command line?01:19
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mister_robotoashzilla: use "-l" to list valid choices01:19
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mumbleslaptopnope i havent- but ubuntu just wont work on my desktop:(01:19
kitchemike__: since you said you tried chaning sound devices that's whne it started to do what it is doing now01:19
Nicolepls hlp me His pls I need help, I installed mercury msn , but I can't open it , 'cos I get a fatal error01:19
mister_robotoashzilla: then you use "-s <name" to set it  (I think... been a while)01:19
jribubotu: tell Nicole about repeat01:19
ixiani can't adjust brightness/contrast/etc of videos playing in totem since i installed the ati drivers ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto ).. any ideas how to fix this?01:19
Sourcemagejrib partially, only basics like rm, cd etc01:19
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mike__kitche: so how do i get it working again01:19
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jribSourcemage: yeah, free is just another command that gives you that info01:19
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mike__kitche: i dont think i did anything speciall... just changed the tabs in volume control01:20
ashzillamister_roboto: thanks, I think that did it01:20
raknami'm trying to log into a remote server using ssh, is there a way to login not as the user that i'm logged on as on my local machine?01:20
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jribraknam: ssh foo@bar01:20
kitchemike__: check to make sure everything is setup and the output is set right01:21
mike__kitche: some programs like amarok work but only in the ehadset but i want to change that01:21
ashzillawoot, thanks mister_roboto - that was it. :)01:21
jribraknam: where foo is your username01:21
Ronzforget who helped me before...but ran apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common, then changed nv to nvidia in xorg.conf. whenever it boots up, it gives me just a black screen. have any ideas?01:21
mister_robotoashzilla: great!01:21
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mike__kitche: how do i do that01:21
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elite_hackernobody knows how to make my video play right?01:21
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raknamjrib: and bar is just a command?01:21
Ronzelite_hacker, what type of video?01:21
jribraknam: bar is the server you are connecting to01:21
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kitchemike__: ok open up your mixer and does your mixer have green lights at the bottom since I don't know what desktop environment your using01:22
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raknamjrib: sweet, thanks01:22
elite_hackerRonz: any video i play is jerky01:22
jribraknam: I'll choose better fake variables next time :)01:22
mumbleslaptopok im goign to give up for the night01:22
Ronzelite_hacker, what are you using to play them?01:22
raknamjrib: haha yeah sorry i'm a little dense too01:22
mike__kbuntu: gnome. whats my mixer?01:22
mumbleslaptopand go to sleep01:22
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Sourcemagewas thanksgiving today or tomorrow?  : o01:22
elite_hackerRonz: vlc, mplayer01:22
mike__kitche: gnome...01:23
Monsucohello01:23
Ronzelite_hacker, i would try kaffeine + xine backend01:23
technelIn Open Office Writer, under Tools -> Options -> Language Settings -> Languages -> Default langs for documents "English (Canada)" is selected. So I click "English (USA)" from the drop down, click OK, restart Open Office, go there again, and it is switched back to Canada!! Why?01:23
MonsucoI am having issues with X01:23
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mike__kitche: i dont see any green lights01:23
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Ronzran apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common, then changed nv to nvidia in xorg.conf. whenever it boots up, it gives me just a black screen. have any ideas?01:23
mumbleslaptopSourcemage,  i was told today01:23
Monsucois there any form of safe mode for X?01:23
kitchemike__: yeah wasn't sure if gnome had that kind of mixer since KDE does have lights for what is active for sound01:24
mike__kitche: should i switch to kde?01:24
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ixianRonz, try changing it back to nv01:24
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Ronzixian, i have01:24
kitchemike__: no but I don't know much about gnome so I can't really help you out but your problem has to do with something in the mixer set wrong01:25
Ronzixian, thats how im running now. =) i want to get 3D acceleration up01:25
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DualCortex_guys anyone know how to set up a lan game, say for nibbles01:25
mike__kitche: it doesnt look like tehre is much to set in the gnome mixer (it says its alsa mixer...)01:25
kitchemike__: ah ok well I know about alsa mixer01:26
ixianRonz: , oh ok.. well im pretty sure there is more to installing the drivers than just downloading the package, which is why it didnt work. try searching for nvidia on the wiki01:26
ixianhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Home?action=show&redirect=FrontPage01:26
mike__kitche: what shall i try then? :)01:26
Ronzixian, thats the thing...ive been through 20+ wiki's today01:26
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MonsucoWhat happens is when I start, I get like these wierd lines all over my screen and it is like a bunch of desktops overlapping each other, I accedentally selected the wrong graphics driver, and that is the source of the problems, is there any sort of "safe mode" type thing for X so that I can go back and select the right driver01:26
youserman it takes hours to search through f servers on linux irc01:26
DualCortex_Anyone know how to set up a lan game, say for nibbles01:26
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kitchemike__: see if your pc speakers are all the way up and unmuted01:27
RonzMonsuco, you could boot in safe mode and change the graphics driver in the xorg.conf file01:27
Monsucohow do I do that01:27
gandolfthewizardhi all i am trying to get the plug in for yahoo can someone help please01:27
mike__kitche: yep they are01:27
lakiohow do I disable SELinux in ubuntu?01:28
ixianMonsuco: , you should see a 'recovery mode' option on the bootloader01:28
MonsucoI do, when I select it, I get a prompt01:28
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kitchemike__: well I can't figure out anything else since I never ran into that problem but it could be due to you have headset plugged in and you want to play though the speakers(some computers don't like two sound devices on at a same time)01:28
Monsuconow what? Is there a command I type in01:28
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frarocohello every body01:29
frarocoI wanna know how to change of server in IRC01:29
Zarephath!windows media01:29
SeanTaterwhat do you do for a file root can dir and see, but cannot even stat?01:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about windows media - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:29
mike__kitche: is there a way to switch between the two of them without running into problems like totall mutage?01:29
DualCortex_So noone knows how to set up a lan game for those preinstalled gnome games? ie nibbles01:29
kitchefraroco: yes type /server <server>01:30
ZarephathAnyone help..I need information on how to get movie player to play .wmv files...it errors on loading the file...I searched the wiki but no joy..01:30
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kitchemike__: umm yeah just unplug your headset at least that's what I do01:30
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avagantTa da~01:30
avagantI have a serious question, in need of some serious answers.01:31
Monsucoso what command do I type in once in recovery mode to go back to the old driver01:31
avagantHaha01:31
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jribubotu: tell Zarephath about wmv01:31
avagantActually it's not that serious, it's just a silly question really.01:31
[5D] Silent_Chaoshey guys, I'm trying to autostart my css server from /srcds and I'm having some trouble with getting it to auto-start01:31
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gandolfthewizardcan someone help me get the java plug in please01:31
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ixianMonsuco: probably something along the lines of sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:31
mike__kitche: is there a way i can wthout having to unplug it? the back of my computer isnt the most remote place01:31
avagantgandolfthewizard: www.ubuntuforums.org01:31
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avagantThey have answers to just about everything.01:32
avagantI still can't figure out my sound problems.01:32
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avagantBut at least I have sound.01:32
frarocothaks you01:32
frarocothanks you01:32
avagantHeck I just found out instead of going through all the crap to compile Nicotine+ they have a repository now.01:32
[5D] Silent_Chaosthe command to execute something is ./<name> right? How would I execute from a different directory?01:33
ixianMonsuco: then find the section labled "Section "Device"", and change the driver to whatever it was before01:33
asimismoI've got a Ubuntu machine I hope to use as an IMAP server. Would like to use a web client to access my accounts. Anyone know of a web e-mail client that can centralize multiple accounts?01:33
frarocoand how can I greet to all users whit a comand01:33
ixianMonsuco: then ctrl+X to save01:33
jribgandolfthewizard: do you want me to help you with java?01:33
Monsucook01:33
TIMo0-ok01:33
GoldKeeperhas anybody had a bad edgy break ?01:33
avagantHey if I get rid of a deb package even though I already have the deb installed will it ruin what I have installed?01:33
TIMo0-whats up01:33
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TIMo0-yess01:34
avagantI need to free up some room for more useless packages.01:34
DualCortex_So noone knows how to set up a lan game for those preinstalled gnome games? ie nibbles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1101:34
LuisMendesHi, I want to know if it is necessary to install a firewall, like Firestarter?01:34
jribgandolfthewizard: you need to post the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file for us to help you.  Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us the url to your post01:34
DualCortex_no01:34
[5D] Silent_Chaosthe firewall exists already01:34
jrib!firewall01:34
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)01:34
avagantjrib: Why can't they just go on the forums? Haha01:35
avagant!ubuntuforums01:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuforums - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:35
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avagantGood afternoon/evening/morning holycow.01:35
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holycowallo01:36
avagantholy i have a question about my panels.01:36
holycowhappy turkeys to all01:36
holycowavagant, sure wots that?01:36
avagantI don't know if you can answer it.01:36
holycowi'll try01:36
kitcheLuisMendes well firestarter isn't a firewall it's just a frontend to iptables which is the firewall01:36
avagantholycow: Well I set it to not expand so it becomes as big as whatever I have in it right?01:36
avagantholycow: But now, I can't get it to expand again so I can add more things, how do I do that?01:37
holycowavagant, correct01:37
LuisMendeskitche, oh I think I understand now! thanks, so it is not really necessary...01:37
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avagant!conky01:37
ubotuconky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 95 kB, installed size 316 kB01:37
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avagantIs there a "panels" option I can get to?01:37
holycowwhat do you mean 'panels option?'01:38
avagantWithout actually like if you right click the panel it gives you the option to edit it's properities.01:38
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holycowyou want to edit panel properties without right clicking on them?01:38
avagantIs there a way to do that without right clicking it, cause when I do it asks to change the properties of the little program buttons I put in there.01:38
avagantYes.01:38
holycowyou should be able to do tha tin gconf01:38
avagantgconf?01:39
avagantI know what gconf is, but how do I dare I ask "get" to it.01:39
kitcheLuisMendes: yeah you don't need it and iptables won't work until you configure it anyways01:39
holycowapplications / system / configuraiton editor01:39
avagantI don't have a system menu?01:39
holycowall gnome settings can be accesed from there01:39
holycowoh easy01:39
holycowalt / f201:39
holycowthe type in gconf01:39
LuisMendeskitche, so it is disabled by default?01:39
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avaganthmmm it said it couldn't be found maybe I don't have it.01:40
holycowsorry01:40
holycowgconf-editor01:40
holycowsearch for the right key to modify to get your panels back01:40
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[1] raknamone more quick ssh question, how do i start the ssh server in ubuntu?01:41
avagantAre they called panels in this?01:41
Dr_willis!ssh01:41
ubotussh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/01:41
avagantcause I can't find them. haha01:41
holycowyou can also delete your .gnome and .gnome2 dirs, log out and log back in.  that will delete all your settings, and they will be recreated to default once you log in01:41
holycowavagant, there is a search function01:41
[1] raknamdr_willis: gracias01:41
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DualCortex_Does anyone know how to use the gnome games' NETWORK game capabilities?01:42
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holycowits under apps / panel actually01:42
holycowin gconf01:42
b03nto!fluxbox01:42
ubotufluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox01:42
[5D] Silent_Chaosanyone know how to execute a binary from a different directory? I know that I can ./name to execute from within the directory, how would I execute using a full path?01:42
avagantHmm.01:42
DualCortex_!gnome01:42
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ubotugnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.01:42
avagantIt said "pairs and schemas cannot be edited"01:43
holycow[5D] Silent_Chaos, ~/anydirectoryhere01:43
holycowi said applications / panel not schemas / panel01:43
[5D] Silent_Chaosholycow ~/asdf/server.sh will execute?01:44
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holycow[5D] Silent_Chaos, if it is located there01:44
ashzilla!flash01:44
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:44
OmniD_Anyone use Tomboy know how to include a date stamp?01:44
holycow~/ just means /home/youraccount01:44
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DualCortex_!nibbles01:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nibbles - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:45
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id10t'lo all01:45
BuglouseWhat would you recommend using for streaming mp3 files over a Shoutcast server?01:45
OmniD_oh what was it called01:46
OmniD_icecast?01:46
OmniD_There was a good shoutcast alternative01:46
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OmniD_THAT I RECOMMEND01:46
id10tBuglouse, or use DSS and just feed the mp3s off local storage01:46
Buglousei tried useing DarkIce... but it is havening a problem finding the Lame codecs...01:46
kitcheLusiMendes well it runs but it doesn't do anything that I know of unless the devs have it set up a certain way by default01:46
OmniD_It wasn't DarkIce I don't think actually01:46
avagantHmm it didn't change.01:46
id10tVLC can do it too01:47
madewokherdthere's an icecast-server01:47
Buglousedarkice is compatible with Shoutcast.. icecast isn't01:47
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avagantUah there we go.01:47
OmniD_Right01:47
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DualCortex_Does anyone know how to use the gnome games' NETWORK game capabilities?01:47
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Parallaxhi, I have a broken pakage and dont know how to solve it01:48
[5D] Silent_Chaosholycow, ~/ only cds to things in my home directory01:48
b03nto!istanbul01:48
ubotuistanbul: Desktop session recorder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-3ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 65 kB, installed size 344 kB01:48
Parallaxhi, I have a broken pakage and don't know how to solve it01:48
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Buglouseid1ot: what is DSS? is it a plugin or what... all im finding is Distributed Security Service01:48
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Buglouseid10t: what is DSS? is it a plugin or what... all im finding is Distributed Security Service01:49
ebzeroErr can someone help me with a quick sound problem?01:49
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ebzeroHello?01:50
avagantI wish there was a way I could be the gconf-editor on the panel so that never happens again.01:50
avagantHaha01:50
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GigaClonhow can a stop a run-away process, killall doesn't seem to work01:51
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DualCortex_Does anyone know how to use the gnome games' NETWORK game capabilities?01:51
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ParallaxGigaClon: kill -9 <pid>01:51
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GigaClonhow do I get pid?01:51
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ebzeroDoes anyone know why somtimes i can here sound and somtimes i cant but i can always here the Gaim sound FX? Along with some videos. :/01:51
hantups aux01:51
Parallaxps aux01:52
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avagantps aux01:52
DualCortex_ps aux01:52
Parallaxhi, I have a broken pakage and don't know how to solve it01:52
madewokherdno one knows how to use gnome games to play network games01:52
avagantYou know what'd be awesome, if I could get sound to work for everything the right way.01:52
[5D] Silent_Chaosanyone know how to execute a binary from a different directory? I know that I can ./name to execute from within the directory, how would I execute using a full path?01:52
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ebzeroAvagany i hear you man :-/ its frusterating me really badly...01:53
DualCortex_madewoherd, i'm noticing that01:53
avagantI should be happy I got it to work at all, but if I'm watching youtube and listening to music, when one goes down, so goes the other.01:53
ebzeroExactluy01:53
Zarephathjrib: thanks01:53
ebzeroand the sound lag on Youtube is annoying :-(01:53
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avagantBut like I said I should be grateful, when I had Windows I didn't have sound at all.01:53
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avagantAnd couldn't figure out how to get it to work, I got sound right out of the box in Ubuntu.01:54
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ebzeroO.o i had windows and got a virus on it that fuxed everything up so i didnt know what to do and my comp didnt come with a windows cd dont feel like spening 200 bucks on a new cd :(01:54
ChocoCid!language01:54
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.01:54
avagantebzero: The worst part is, I had sound set up a way that I can do both comfortably and I had to reinstall Ubuntu again.01:54
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ebzerolol i had to reinstall ubuntu also but i had nothing on it so it was no big deal01:55
ebzeroAnyone here a sound specialist? lol01:55
avagantI've had to reinstall it 5 times.01:55
avagantHaha01:55
ebzerolol01:55
avagantIf anyone here deserves a "n00b" award it's me.01:56
ebzerolol im runner up then :-/01:56
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avagantHey when I open system monitor shouldn't alsa be one of the processes running?01:56
billavagent - lol - i thought we settled that. - my pic is still in webster's01:56
avagantHaha01:56
avagantIt's showing aRts instead of alsa, and I could have sworn I've seen alsa in the monitor before.01:57
ebzeroAvagent i dont have alsa running and i cant here anything01:57
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avagantThat could be 90 percent of my problem there, is there a way to make alsa "start"?01:57
ebzeroAvagent and to make things worse i still cant get my ATI RADEON 9250 working the right way...01:58
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host`how do I connect with a static IP?01:58
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sidny4anybody know how to test surround sound?01:58
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shidohow can i change the color of the fonts in ubuntu? for example...to white, in order to have a theme in black01:58
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host`!send to host` static IP01:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about send to host` static IP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:59
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ParallaxI have a broken pakage and don't know how to solve it02:00
host`!tell  host` static IP02:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tell  host` static IP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:00
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host`hmm02:00
host`!static IP02:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about static IP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:00
Sivikanyone here use a zen micro?02:00
otaku-sanN00b question. I'm trying to install Gnome on Kubuntu.  It's asking what display manager I want to use.  Should I stay with kdm or should I use gdm?  If I do use gdm will it mess with KDE?02:00
chrisntrHey :)02:00
ebzero!tell host` Sound problems02:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tell host` Sound problems - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:00
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Sivikotaku-san, it doesn't matter which one02:00
sidny4!alsa02:00
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems02:00
wheelswitchany one here use bittorrent alot?02:00
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chrisntrI'm having a few problems with 'rar' on Edgy :(02:00
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host`I'm not having the sound problems anyway02:00
otaku-sanSivik: Ok I'll stay with kdm02:00
avagantBut shouldn't alsa show up in system manager?02:00
wheelswitchby bitorrent i mean torrents,02:00
Sivikwheelswitch, what is the issue?02:01
otaku-sanSivik: Thanks alot02:01
jaymodewheelswitch: i do02:01
host`I wanting to know how to configure using a static IP02:01
Sivikhost`, like a router or just your computer?02:01
host`I want to connect to a router02:01
Sivikok, do you know the ip of the interface for the router02:02
host`yes02:02
sidny4you should really configure the router to assign a static IP to your mac address02:02
Sivikhost`, what kind of router is it02:02
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Siviksidny4, it may not be able to do that, depends on what sort of router it is02:02
host`it's not my router, I don't want to mess around with other peoples things too much, I'm leeching off it02:02
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sidny4Sivik, that's true02:02
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frarocowell I have the room of IRC how can I know what it is the server??02:02
Sivikhost`, sudo ifconfig ethx xx.xx.xx.xx02:02
shidowhy i can never change the font style or font size in the system?.... i change it but nothing happens02:02
jaymodemy nautilus/libgnome-vfs are crashing while doing file transfers over a network. After that I have to restart before i can browse computers on the network again. Is there a command so that I do not have to keep restarting?02:02
host`ok, ifconfig02:03
host`I'll remember that02:03
troughtonhi i am trying to set up a home network i have installed samba on both mashiens but how do i browse accross the network ??02:03
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SquatchQuick question.  Trying to get xvkbd & xbindkeys so that I can use all the buttons on my mouse, but when I "sudo apt-get install xvkbd xbindkeys" I get "Couldn't find package xvkbd"...  Any suggestions?02:03
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sidny4host` what are you trying to do?02:03
host`I need to have my ports forwarded02:03
SivikSquatch, try using apt-cache for that program02:03
Sivikhost`, what kind of router?02:03
host`linksys02:03
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SquatchSivik: Thanks, I'll look into that.02:03
Sivikhost`, thats rather easy, log into the router in your browser02:03
host`the router is set up, I just need to connect to it with the right IP02:03
SivikSquatch, apt-cache search02:04
sidny4host` you'll have to configure the router to forward those to your ip02:04
frarocowell I have the room of IRC how can I know what it is the server??02:04
host`that's already configured02:04
nex_does anyone know of a video converter for linux to turn .avi, divx, into .vob?02:04
Sivikhost`, well, the router should assign an ip, and then you just tell the router to forward to that ip address02:04
troughtonnex_ look at tovid02:04
Sivikthats a router end thing, not a client end thing02:04
sidny4ok, are you the only person using the router?02:04
host`no I'm not02:04
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nex_troughton, thanks02:05
Siviksidny4, how are you connecting to is, wired or wireless?02:05
troughtonnex_ look at tovid02:05
troughtonhi i am trying to set up a home network i have installed samba on both mashiens but how do i browse accross the network ??02:05
sidny4wireless02:05
avagantNow i can't hear sound in youtube at all.02:05
avagantSomebody!02:05
avagantAnybody!02:05
bruenigtovid is awful02:05
Siviktroughton, you have to be able to ping both mechines02:05
bruenigavagant, it is time you learned a little something about adobe flash 7 for linux....it sucks02:05
Siviktroughton, aka they have to have the same network portion of the ip02:05
sidny4host` you'll want to make the router assign your mac address the specific IP you want02:06
avagantNo but I had it working just last night.02:06
troughtonhave done Sivik02:06
Siviktroughton, both running linux?02:06
avagantIn fact I was listening to music AND watching youtube.02:06
sidny4otherwise if you request that ip and someone else has that ip neither one of you will get online02:06
SquatchSivik: When I search for xvkbd or xbindkeys, absolutely nothing pops up.02:06
avagantSo what's the deal here?02:06
SivikSquatch, then you don't have the correct repos opened02:06
avagantHOW DO YOU START ALSA02:06
troughtonyes Sivik02:06
LjL!caps02:06
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.02:06
mcphailnex_: there's a script called "any2dvd", but i haven't used it02:06
BuglouseI'm tring to find the package "DSS" it is supposed to be a media streamer... I can't seem to find it .. does anyone konw where i would be located?02:06
avagantYa ya I know, but it isn't even showing I "have" alsa.02:07
Siviktroughton, there shouldn't be a problem02:07
nex_mcphail, let me see02:07
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Siviktroughton, you should be able to pull both computers up in samba, thats what i do02:07
frarocowell I have the name-room of IRC how can I know what it is the server??02:07
troughtonthe network is not showing anyware how do i pull up the network in samba Sivik ??02:07
Monsucook, so I fixed X,  but how do I find the correct driver?02:08
avagantAlso how do I configure opera to use alsa or whatever?02:08
sidny4fraroco, what are you talking about?02:08
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Siviktroughton, working on it, i haven't used samba in a whle02:08
troughtonSivik i am new to samba i dont know how it works02:08
Sivikhow do i start samba from terminal02:08
NET||abusehey guys, how do i change what application opens a file type, like change my default movie player?02:08
sidny4!samba02:08
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT02:08
Siviksidny4, don't give me that crap02:09
sidny4haha02:09
NET||abusei right click on a movie file, properties, openwith, i have 3 selections,, but it won't change anything???02:09
Siviksidny4, i'm trying to start it from terminal and i can't remember how to do it02:09
avagant!alsa02:09
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems02:09
sidny4sorry, it's been awhile for samba too02:09
macsimahah02:09
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macsimahah02:09
Siviksidny4, i have it installed, but samba isn't a valid command02:09
macsimahah02:09
ebzeroAnyone know how to fix sound problems?02:09
macsimahah02:09
sidny4smbd?02:09
ebzeroHow come i can here Gaim sounds but not youtube sounds?02:10
sidny4Sivik, smbclient I think02:10
ebzeroLike earlier today i could hear all sounds I havnt messed with any configs.02:10
digip1mpI just popped a wireless card into my laptop's pcmcia slot... what do I have to do to get it working?02:10
Sivikok02:10
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MonsucoI have an intel graphics card, and I am not exactly sure how to set it up so that OpenGL will work, currently, anything that needs OpenGL doesnt seem to work well02:11
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frarocosidny4: see, I have #ubuntu but I do not know in which server do I have to conect by to enter at this room, for ejample..02:11
Sivikclient doesn't bring up a window02:11
Sivikfraroco, irc.freenode.net02:11
sidny4well, the server you're on is irc.freenode.net02:11
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SquatchHow do I add a repository so that apt-get can find xvkbd?02:12
Zer0Her0_is there a way to map control to the apple key on a mac keyboard02:12
Monsucois there a command that can tell me the particular model of my graphics card02:12
frarocosidny4: yeah I know this server but I have two namerooms more that I do not knor the server...02:12
bruenigSquatch, what is xvkbd?02:12
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Zer0Her0_and ctrl thing drives me batty02:12
frarocoSivik:  yeah I know this server but I have two namerooms more that I do not knor the server...02:12
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Squatchbruenig: Something I need along with xbindkeys to make my Forward and Back buttons on my mouse use Alt+Left & Alt+Right...02:13
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sidny4fraroco, what program are you using?02:13
frarocoxchat-genome02:13
sidny4ok, where does it list your channels? left or bottom?02:13
bruenigSquatch, I believe you only need xbindkeys for that, but if you want xvkbd, more power to you02:13
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Squatchbruenig: Well, just following some walkthroughs I found >_<...  No clue really what I'm doing with these.  Regardless, I can't get either package ATM.02:14
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thoreauputic!repos02:14
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource02:14
sidny4Sivik, so you want to start samba from the terminal that opens up a configuration window?02:14
bruenigSquatch, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-5bbef89639d9a7d93fe38f6356dc17847d37309602:15
Monsucohow do I find out what kind of graphics card I have02:15
Squatchyes?02:15
bruenigSquatch, you might also want to get xbindkeys-config, that gives you a nice graphical interface to configure xbindkeys02:15
frarocosidny4: xchat-genome02:16
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Squatchbruenig: Cool, I'll look into that as soon as I can figure out this repo mess...02:16
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bruenigSquatch, follow that link I just gave you to enable the extra repos02:16
bruenighttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-5bbef89639d9a7d93fe38f6356dc17847d37309602:16
sidny4fraroco, where are your channels listed02:16
sidny4left side, bottom...?02:17
thoreauputicMonsuco: lspci | grep -i VGA02:17
thoreauputicMonsuco: that should find it02:17
frarocohow where?02:17
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ixianwhat is a good video player for playing asf files? ive tried vlc, totem, and mplayer.. something always screws up (sound skips in vlc, crashes in totem and mplayer)02:17
bruenigtotem plays asf perfectly for me02:17
frarocosidny4: how where?02:18
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Monsucook02:18
PacketScani'm vond of mplayer02:18
Monsucothank you02:18
PacketScanfond even02:18
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frarocosidny4: did you mean where I get them?02:18
sidny4yeah02:18
ixianbruenig: well it used to play them fine for me too but it crashes since i installed video card drivers02:18
bruenigixian, you may need w32codecs for them since it is a windows media format02:18
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ixiani have that; :(02:18
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Squatchbruenig: Thanks a ton for all your help, searching through these pages ^_^.02:18
BuglouseI'm looking for a Plugin (for xmms, amarok, andy other media players) or stand alone progie that will allow me to stream mp3 content to a shoutcast server02:18
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bruenigixian, it wouldn't crash because of a video card. The program at least wouldn't crash02:19
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kitcheBuglouse: you need the shoutcast dj tools to do that02:19
loper06im getting this error when im trying to install vmware. anybody? "Unable to get the access rights of source file "./vmware-vix/bin".02:20
loper06"02:20
Psykushas anyone had any luck getting a netgear WG111v2 USB adapter working under ubuntu? i saw v1 on the wiki, no mention of v202:20
kitcheloper-6: are you sudoing?02:20
harisundHas anybody tried to dual boot a system with 2 Linuxes?02:21
Siviki'm having problems getting amarok seeing my zen micro02:21
loper06yes. im actually in root02:21
bruenigixian, also, don't know if this will help but asf is a container file, so could be a problem for whatever it is containing not asf itself02:21
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kitcheharisund: yes that is pretty easy to do really02:21
harisundkitche, ah! a positive suggestion. Good start, i would say. So how do I setup the boot partitions and the grub?02:21
loper06kitche: does the owner have to be root:root?02:22
Sivikloper06, you can change that02:22
harisundkitche, let's say I install Ubuntu first. All good. Now if I were to install, say, nexenta or gentoo, it will overwrite the mbr with its own grub right?02:22
loper06Sivik: why am i getting this error then?02:22
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Sivikloper06, what the error?02:22
loper06Unable to get the access rights of source file "./vmware-vix/bin".02:22
sethkharisund, all the distros have a "do you want to overwrite the mbr" confirmation question, but if you answer yes, then it usually will02:23
kitcheharisund: it might but ti should see ubuntu02:23
Sivikloper06: do a ls -al, it will tell you all the permissions for that file02:23
sethkharisund, however the MBR will be backed up first.02:23
Sivikand even if it does, it should pick up the kernel for ubuntu02:23
frarocosidny4: did you mean where I get them?02:23
harisundsethk, ok. So let's assume the MBR is overwritten by nexenta. Now I see the nexenta kernel and the Ubuntu kernel. Now I boot into UBuntu and install a new kernel. However Ubuntu doesn't know about nexenta kernel, right? What happens if it overwrites the MBR to reflect the new kernel?02:24
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godzirrahow do I reconfigure grub?  for some reason last time I booted into linux it took away my windows xp entry in the menu.list02:24
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sethkharisund, you are already wrong on sentence two02:24
Sivikharisund, but grub will fix it, grub is grub no matter who uses it02:24
Tussiushey02:24
sethkharisund, if it overwrites the grub in the MBR, it will use its own config file, and it will only see its own kernel02:24
SivikTussius, hi02:24
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Tussiushow do I go about to install an older version of java?02:24
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sethkgodzirra, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst02:24
loper06Sivik: ./vmware-vix/bin is not exist. however, ./bin does02:24
harisundSivik the /boot/grub/menu.lst file will have to be the same for both OS, right?02:24
harisundor atleast synchronized?02:24
sethkgodzirra, you can find how to boot windows in:      info grub02:24
Tussiusit seems the newest has problems with a java program I'm trying to run02:25
godzirrasethk: I dont know what to add. it automatically added it last time when I booted up the system.02:25
sethkharisund, no02:25
Sivikharisund, it should be correct no matter who uses it02:25
Sivikloper06, do you know where the vmware-vix/bin folder is?02:25
sethkgodzirra, it's in the info I referenced.  I can tell you if you know the partition where windows is running.02:25
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sethkgodzirra, where windows is installed, rather02:25
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harisundSivik, sethk .. let's say I share the /boot partition across both operating systems (I use only OS that have a grub, no Windows..) . Do you think that would be a good idea or no?02:25
kitcheharisund: anyways nexenta isn't a linux so it won't overwrite ubuntu's kernel if your worried about that02:25
godzirraI do.  its /dev/sda102:25
loper06Sivik: i assume in vmware-server-distrib02:25
Psykushas anyone had any luck getting a netgear WG111v2 USB adapter working under ubuntu? i saw v1 on the wiki, no mention of v2. suppose I could try it anyway, just throwing the driver into ndiswrapper, but i'm using windows on the system at the moment (laptop)02:26
harisundkitche, no I am not worried about any kernels being overwritten. I am worried about  a new menu.lst being created that doesn't show the other OS' kernel.02:26
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Sivikharisund, thats how i did it02:26
frarocosomebody how can I find the server of a room of irc??02:26
sethkharisund, that's exactly what will happen02:26
sethkharisund, the new menu.lst _will_ be created02:26
sethkharisund, and it _will_ have only the new OS02:26
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Sivikfraroco, this one is on irc.freenode.net02:27
sethkharisund, but you simply edit the file, and add the old one to it.02:27
Sivikfraroco, what do you mean02:27
harisundsethk ok that clears up things ;) ..02:27
harisundSivik that's how you did it? Means? how?02:27
frarocoSivik #Tuxteno no02:27
Sivikharisund, and even if it doesn't, its not that hard to edit that file and fix it02:27
kitcheharisund: grub will see the other distro automatically at least in my opinion it does02:27
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Sivikharisund, as long as you don't format the /boot partition, it should regonize all the kernels on there02:27
Sivikfraroco, are you connected to it02:27
harisundSivik, ah neat... thanks ..02:27
Sivikharisund, yw02:28
harisundthanks a bunch sethk too .. I am going to try then ..02:28
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kitcheharisund: sicne I installed grub from source and it seen my distro automatically without configuring it02:28
bsdfoxhey does nm-applet work with WPA? I only see WEP 128-bit Passphrase and WEP 64/128-bit Hex/ASCII02:28
frarocosivik now, well my big problem is that with firefox can not conect to it because I have problems whit java in firefox. so I wanna conect to it from xchat02:29
SinnerGwith iptables, how can I check if a certain rule has been set?02:29
harisundkitche installed grub from source? You mean you compiled grub? Any particular reason why you did so?02:29
harisundSinnerG, iptables -t {nat,filter} -L -v02:29
harisundchoose between the nat and filter (default) tables02:29
niroxxhow can i make a video of my desktop ?02:29
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kitcheharisund: umm yeah my distro doesn't use grub that I use it uses lilo and I don't like it02:29
harisundkitche ah ok .. and that distro is?02:30
Sivikfraroco, try installing j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin02:30
bruenigprobably slackware, using lilo would go along with using kernels that are 5 years old02:30
kitchebruenig:" I use 2.6.18 :)02:31
frarocoapt-get install j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin??02:31
Sivikyes02:31
Siviktry that02:31
Sivikyou might have to sudo it02:31
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bruenigkitche was it slackware?02:31
kitchebsdfox: make sure that you have wpa_supplicant installed02:31
bruenigwas i right?02:31
digip1mpomg how do I get the wireless configuration util to show up in gnome?02:31
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kitchebruenig: yeah but then again most distros give you a choice to use lilo or grub02:31
bruenigyes :)02:31
Sivikdigip1mp, what hw02:31
sethkkitche, nothing wrong with lilo02:31
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Sivikkitche, other distros use lilo as well02:32
kitcheSivik as I said they do02:32
bsdfoxkitche, I do, and it opens an instance of wpa_supplicant when I am trying to connect.. but it doesn't work02:32
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Sivikkitche, so whats the problem with it02:32
Sivikfraroco, did that help02:33
digip1mpwpc54g linksys card...02:33
BrianGcan someone help me install BitTornado 0.3.15 on Dapper?02:33
kitcheSivik sethk let see running /sbin/lilo each time I upgrade my kernel :)02:33
SivikBrianG, why bittornado, try something from aptitude02:33
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frarocoSivik:  I am download it02:33
Sivikkitche, that should work02:33
Sivikfraroco, why that one?02:33
godzirrainfo grub didnt raelly show me much :/02:33
digip1mpSivik: wpc54g02:33
BrianGSivik: because those don't work right. I need to use BitTornado 0.3.1502:34
kitcheSivik: but I like grub much more since I started to use it umm I upgrade my kernel alot Sivik since I use native wireless and it seems that it gets better on each release02:34
Sivikyou can install ktorrent or bittorrent02:34
BrianGi dont want thsoe02:34
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Sivikkitche, ok, then just install grub and it shoudl regonize the kernels02:34
ashzillaWhen I'm using GNU Ftp02:34
ashzillahow do I remove a file02:34
ashzilla?02:34
SivikBrianG: then run ./configure and then make and then sudo make install02:34
emileifremDoes anyone know how to install a latin1 locale in dapper?02:34
frarocoSivik: do not have I to download it?02:34
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SivikBrianG, it was a tar that you untarred02:34
bsdfoxhmm, my atheros card connected to it no problem. Is there a wpa issue with bcm4306/rt2500 chips?02:35
Sivikfraroco, so you haven't downloaded it yet02:35
emileifremI need to be able to set LANG=en_US.ISO-8859-102:35
BrianGi tried ./configure02:35
bun-bunBrianG:: the repositories have 0.3.13, it's what i'm using02:35
Sivikwhat does it say02:35
BrianGSivik: yes02:35
kitcheSivik: it does .. but then again you didn't read what I kept saying02:35
SivikBrianG: what did it say02:35
BrianGbun-bun: 0.3.13 isn't 0.3.15 ;)02:35
Sivikkitche, sorry02:35
Sivikwhy do you need 0.3.15?02:35
Sivikwhats wrong with 0.3.1302:35
BrianGwon't work ont he tracker i use02:36
godzirraSo can anyone help get my xp partiation added to grub?02:36
BrianGhang on i'll tell you waht it said02:36
Sivik!pastebin02:36
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:36
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ashzillaWhen I'm using GNU ftp how do I remove a file remotely02:37
BrianGbash: ./configure: No such file or directory02:37
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kitcheashzilla: you mean the command line version?02:37
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sethkBrianG,  you are in the wrong directory02:37
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aFxashzilla : remove in console mode02:37
BrianGhow do i find o ut which is the right one?02:37
sethkbrianG   ./configure means run the configure program here (./ mean in the current directory)02:37
sethkBrianG, did you extract from a tar archive?02:38
sethkbrianG, extract source?02:38
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Nicolehello, I got a Video CApture Kworld card and I am connecting my video camara, but I don't know where to start, what can I do02:38
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BrianGi extracted http://download2.bittornado.com/download/BitTornado-0.3.15.tar.gz to my home02:38
SivikNicole, did you try checking wiki.ubuntu.com for that card02:38
kitcheashzilla: well it's delete if your using the console version02:38
sethkBrianG, then it is in $HOME/BitTornad0-0.3.1502:38
ixianis there a torrent program similar to uTorrent for linux?02:39
sethkBitTornado, I put a zero instead of the o02:39
Sivikixian: ktorrent02:39
Sivikixian: bittorrent02:39
BrianGsethk: that dosen't exist02:39
Sivikixian: there are a bunch of different torrent programs for linux02:39
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LSD`I use rtorrent myself02:39
sethkBrianG, ok, then do this:   ls -ld Bit*02:39
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sethkBrianG, or, an easier way,    do   ls -ltr | tail -102:40
SivikBrianG, is there a install.sh file in that folder02:40
ixiani know there are lots but i like utorrent in windows so i wanted a similar one for linux02:40
godzirraSo can anyone help get my xp partiation added to grub?02:40
sethkgodzirra, did you answer my question about which partition windows is installed onto?02:40
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godzirrasethk: I did.  I said /deb/sda1 :)02:40
BrianGit made a folder BitTornado-CVS02:40
LSD`ixian: you could try running utorrent in wine02:40
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godzirraerr /dev02:40
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sethkgodzirra, no such thing.  do you mean /dev/sda1?02:40
ixianLSD`: thats an idea02:40
sethkBrianG, ok, then     cd BitTornado-CVS02:40
godzirrasethk: yes, hence me saying "err/ dev" right after that :)02:41
sethkBrianG   you can do      cd BitT<tab>              (<tab> means press the tab key, which fills in the rest of the name)02:41
godzirraI'm on a laggy connection to my linux box.02:41
ixianis azureus similar to utorrent?02:41
sethkgodzirra, k02:41
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ugaritI'm trying to have perl executed as a cgi in apache2 and my webclient wants to downloaded it.  What's wrong?02:41
PierreGods_gift: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_Windows_entry_into_GRUB_menu02:41
sethkgodzirra, so you add to the menu.lst file:02:41
Pierrearg02:41
Pierregodzirra: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_Windows_entry_into_GRUB_menu02:41
BrianGim in BitTornado-CVS02:41
BrianGbash: ./configure: No such file or directory02:41
kitcheixian: well azureus is a Java program it's sorta a memory hog but it's nice02:41
ashzillaDoes anyone know how to upload a directory recursively with ftp?02:42
digip1mpSivik: wpc54g linksys card... tried loading the windows drivers with ndiswrapper...02:42
Sivikdigip1mp, not sure02:42
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sethkBrianG, oh, if it's from CVS, that's not what you do02:42
sidny4anyone know how to test surround sound?02:42
LjLashzilla: i don't know, but the "wput" package should be able to do that02:42
BrianGi extracted http://download2.bittornado.com/download/BitTornado-0.3.15.tar.gz to my home02:42
sethkgodzirra, hold on, I'm still looking it up for you02:42
Sivikashzilla, try using send /folder/folder -rF02:42
godzirrasethk: I got myost of it off that site that was just pasted02:42
sethkBrianG, yes, I know.  for a CVS pull, you don't start with ./configure02:42
SivikBrianG: what are the files that are inside of that folder02:42
BrianGi just want ot know where i need to be or what to look for in order to ./configure02:42
godzirrajust trying to see whether /dev/sda1 is (hd0,0)02:43
ashzillaSivik: I will, thank you02:43
sethkgodzirra, ok, then you don't need me, good luck.02:43
Sivikashzilla, yw02:43
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godzirrasethk: thanks for your help02:43
sethkgodzirra, there is a file in /boot/grub that tells you which device is hd002:43
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BrendonHi all, i'm having issues getting my mouse (logitech g7) to work, basically once x is open all i can do is move the mouse up and down. The mouse is plugged into a kvm switch (usb) but i tried plugging it into the pc directly but still got the same effect. Any ideas?02:43
SivikBrianG, is there a file in that folder that you extracted that is currently green?02:43
sethkgodzirra, called device.map02:43
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godzirraahh ko02:44
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godzirraGot it.02:44
BrianGhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26028/02:44
godzirraHow do I make the windows partition the default one?02:44
BrianGgreen? thay're all green.02:44
sethkBrianG, ./configure is _not_ step one when you extract from CVS.   are you in the directory?  If you are, and if you are paying attention, I'll tell you how to do it.02:44
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ashzillaSivik: local: /home/ashzilla/Desktop/test remote: -rF02:44
ashzilla/home/ashzilla/Desktop/test: not a plain file.02:44
BrianGsethk: im in ~/BitTornado-CVS02:44
ashzillalocal: /home/ashzilla/Desktop/test remote: -rF02:45
ashzilla/home/ashzilla/Desktop/test: not a plain file.02:45
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ashzillaOops, sorry for the double past02:45
ashzillaI was scrolled up. :x02:45
sethkBrianG, yes, I know that, I told you to cd to it, remember?02:45
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SivikBrianG: what happens if you run ./BitTornado ?02:45
BrianGjust making sure we're on the same page02:45
avagantOk guys I have a sound question haha.02:45
BrianGbash: ./BitTornado: is a directory02:45
sethkBrianG, I'll check in with you in a few minutes after you get done wasting time.02:45
Sivikavagant, what kind of sound problem02:46
SivikBrianG, then go into that folder02:46
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SivikBrianG, if its a folder, then its not green02:46
avaganti just ran a script i found on a website to see if my sound was set up properly.02:46
BrianGcolors don't help much, i have green text on a black background02:46
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avagantand one of the messages was something along the lines that module config does not exist.02:46
SivikBrianG, are you not in a x?02:46
BrianGbrian@bertha:~/BitTornado-CVS/BitTornado$02:46
avaganthttp://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=aadebug I got it from here.02:46
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avagantit said "module conf does not exist and my kernel will not be autoloaded?"02:47
storm-zenHas anyone seen this message before: hub 2-0:1.0: connect-debounce failed, port 1 disabled ?02:47
NicoleSivik nothing :(02:47
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BrianGi'm in GNOME Terminal02:48
Sivikwell, having green text is stupid, its hard to tell what is executable and whats not02:49
ashzillaSivik: any last ideas?02:49
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avagantit also says "cat /proc/asound/hwdep no such file or directory"02:49
Sivikashzilla, what was the problem again and what did you try, i have way to omuch ging on02:49
ashzillaSivik: nevermind, I'll figure it out later.02:49
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Sivikashzilla, k02:50
BrianGSivik: ok it's on default so now we can color code02:50
troughtoni got samba working now but how do i copy files accross the network Sivik ??02:50
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SivikBrianG, what of those files are colored02:50
sethkBrianG, you still don't want to know how to do it?02:51
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Sivikok, you can't tell by terminal02:51
BrianGin ~/BitTornado-CVS/BitTornado ? none.02:51
LstyWnchI need some help.  I think I muffed something.  When I double click a .bin file it tries to open in gedit02:51
Sivikcan you open nautilus or something?02:51
SivikLstyWnch, that means you haven't chmod it yet02:51
BrianGsethk: what are you talking about?02:51
Dr_willisLstyWnch,  what is this .bin supposed to be?02:51
Sivik.bin is normally a cd image02:51
LstyWnchjava install packet02:51
SivikLstyWnch, sudo chmod +x filename.bin02:52
SivikLstyWnch, and then sudo ./filename.bin02:52
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Dr_willisLstyWnch,  why not use the java pacakges in the repos?02:52
Dr_willis!java02:52
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository02:52
troughtoni got samba working now but how do i copy files accross the network Sivik ??02:52
avagantAnybody?02:52
SivikLstyWnch, what dr willis said02:52
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sethkBrianG, I've offered to tell you how to do it several times, but you ignore me.02:52
Siviktroughton, do you have the right preledges when you connect to the other computer02:52
Siviklike the way an ftp works02:52
BrianGi'm open to anything02:52
kRaKoNhi02:52
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BrianGi obviously want help or i wouldn't have asked for it02:52
troughtoni am in terminal i should have full access02:53
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Siviktroughton, just because you in terminal, doesn't mean crap02:53
sethkBrianG, seems that way, that's why I thought it was strange that you keep trying to run configure after I told you that configure isn't what you need to do.02:53
Dr_willistroughton,  the logic of that statement... is.. well.. lacking. :)02:53
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Siviktroughton, i can login on my other computer as a guest and i only have access to certain file02:53
sethkBrianG, anyway, let me know when you are ready02:54
newpZhi has anyone had success getting mplayer-plugin or gxine working in opera? ive been trying all day hehe02:54
kRaKoNI would like to get some information about ubuntu server I used ubuntu desktope but now that i intalled ubun server i don't know how to do most of the things because i don't have a grafic enviroment. I would like to setup a webserver on that one but i don't know how to do it, is there anybook, or tutorial?02:54
troughtonok so how do i access using comand privalage ??02:54
Dr_williskRaKoN,  why not just install the desktop, and then install the server packages you want to use.02:54
BrianGsethk: i told you i was in the directory (because you asked)02:54
BrianGsethk: now what?02:54
Siviktroughton, sudo su if you know the root password02:54
Sivikjust like you would do with something else02:55
sethkBrianG, you must be confusing me with someone else.  I'm the one who told you to cd to the directory.  In any event, are you ready to try to build it?02:55
kitche!apache > kRaKoN02:55
BrianGyeah02:55
thoreauputickRaKoN: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/index.html02:55
kRaKoNDr_willis: I did that before but with some reading i found out that the server version comes with more security, security that i don't know how to setup by myself02:55
LstyWnchI have another question.  Why can't I access root?  I installed and put all the passwords in.02:55
sethkLstyWnch, you need to set the root password02:56
Dr_williskRaKoN,  id like to know what 'more security' it would come with.02:56
thoreauputic!root02:56
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:56
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Dr_willisgiven how locked down ubuntu desktop is.02:56
sethkLstyWnch, the expert mode install prompts you for the root password, but the desktop does not.02:56
SivikLstyWnch, you have to use sudo, you can't log into the system as root02:56
sethkBrianG, are you there?02:56
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kRaKoNLstywnch: you can use 'sudo su' to access like root02:56
LstyWnchK02:56
BrianGsethk: yeah02:57
sethkBrianG, are    python and wxPython isntalled?02:57
BrianGsethk: yeah02:57
zizbanthe installer on edgy eft is either really slow or doesn't work02:57
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sethkBrianG,  ok, then, do this:         python setup.py install02:57
LstyWnchwhere does the file need to be located when I run sudo chmod?02:57
kRaKoNDr:willis: well i don't know much about this , but i am consediring your suggestion as my second option ;)02:57
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SivikLstyWnch, it really doesn't matter where its located02:57
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sethkLstyWnch, use the full path, then it won't matter what the current directory is.02:57
BrianGsethk: without sudo?02:58
SivikLstyWnch, as long as you chmod +x it, it should be fine02:58
LstyWnchSivik, it said no such file or directory02:58
Tru7h!installation02:58
sethkBrianG, I assume you need to be root, so use sudo02:58
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues02:58
zizbanah thank ye02:58
sethkBrianG, I don't sudo, I build as normal and install as root.  but sudo is fine.02:58
BrianGsethk: ok done02:58
sethkBrianG, ok, now you are ready to start02:59
BrianGeyah02:59
Sivikare you in the directory of the file that your trying to chmod +x to02:59
troughtonso why is it so hard to access and share files on a linux network ???02:59
sethkBrianG, it suggests a line in /etc/mailcap as follows:02:59
sethkBrianG, application/x-bittorrent; /usr/bin/btdownloadgui.py %s; test=test -n "$DISPLAY"02:59
troughtonall i want to do is copy files from my desktop to my laptop02:59
sethktroughton, not the least bit hard.  I do it all day long02:59
troughtonhow sethk ??03:00
Dr_willistroughton,  gee i find it rather trivial03:00
sethktroughton, what's the laptop running and what's the desktop running?03:00
troughtonboth running ubuntu03:00
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sethktroughton, then you can transfer using sftp, or scp.03:00
sethktroughton, if those are missing, do (as root) apt-get install openssh-server     on both boxes03:00
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BrianGsethk: one exists already but /usr/bin/btdownloadgui rather than /usr/bin/btdownloadgui.py03:01
sethkBrianG, right, they say to replace it.03:01
BrianGok03:01
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sethkBrianG, personally I would comment it out rather than replace  :)03:02
LstyWnchheh, duh, much easier to use the repository method03:02
haaryAnyone knows a mp3player for X which is not QT or GTK based?03:02
sethkBrianG, then, theoretically, you are ready to click on a bit torrent thing.03:02
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BrianGok, edited03:03
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kitchehaary: most X players are qt or gtk based03:03
troughtonok sethk openssh-server on both computers03:03
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haarykitche, I know, thats why I ask :-)03:03
sidIf ubuntu is based in Isle of man(for tax purposes?) and their head quarters are in London, why is mplayer mangled to shit to remove some patented crap?03:03
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BrianGsethk: 0.3.15 is now installed?03:04
kitchehaary: I was gonna say xmms2 then remembered that it's console based03:04
sidWhy does Ubuntu removed patented crap if they aren't in America, but are in Europe03:04
haaryA mp3 player based on fox or fltk would be goog03:04
haarygood03:04
ChocoCidbecause it's illegal for a usa person to have it, i think03:04
sidChocoCid: right03:04
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sidChocoCid: but who cares03:04
sidfsck USA03:04
LjL!offtopic03:04
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!03:04
ChocoCidfurthermore, ubuntu and debian have the philosophy that they only come with Free software03:04
ChocoCidwhich is why multiverse and universe are separated from the Free stuff03:05
troughtonok sethk what now ??03:05
ChocoCid(note the capital F there)03:05
sidOpenOffice.org probably has at least 100 patents in it, if you ask any knowledgeable OO.o dev who knows about patents.03:05
kitchesid: it to make FSF happy but then again FSF if you show people how to install it then FSF looks down upon your distro03:05
sidBut OO.o is still in Ubuntu03:05
BrianGsethk: i got it running now. thank you for your help03:05
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LjLChocoCid: actually, the distinction with Universe is that its package are not mantained by the ubuntu core developers...03:06
ChocoCider, ok, multiverse then03:06
sidIs there an ubuntu-legal like the debian-legal?03:06
kitchesid: umm it's not about patents it's more about the laws dealing with those patents and OO.o doesn't break any laws in reality03:06
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sidkitche: sure it does, american patent law03:06
sidThere are features that are infringing on others patents03:06
sethkBrianG,  np03:06
LjLcould this possibly continue in #ubuntu-offtopic?03:07
sidkitche: Is there a website about this stuff? I can't find one.03:07
sidThere doesn't seem to be a ubuntu-legal like there is debian-legal either.03:07
Madpilotsid, given that OOo is primarily developed by an American company (Sun), it's probably legal in the US... and in any case, please move this to #ubuntu-offtopic03:07
thoreauputicsid: I agree with LjL - take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please03:07
kRaKoNdoes anyone has install cpanel on ubuntu?03:08
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wickedpuppykRaKoN, is cpanel free ? i also wanna get ...03:08
kitchekRaKoN: probably not since you need a license for it03:08
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aSt3raLwhat program can i use as a terminal on a serial port?03:09
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wickedpuppylol there goes my hopes kitche03:09
LjLaSt3raL: minicom03:09
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Madpilotcpanel is decidedly non-free - licenses are expensive03:09
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troughtonsethk i have installed openssh-server what now ??03:09
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kitchewickedpuppy there is free alternatives to it though03:09
meatfacehey all03:09
sethktroughton, now you can sftp from one machine to the other.   or you can scp03:09
wickedpuppykitche, like ... webmin ?03:09
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kRaKoNkitche: but they give a trial, or do you know any control panel like cpanel that is for free?03:09
thoreauputictroughton: or you can use "connect to server" and specify ssh03:10
wickedpuppykRaKoN, webmin ... its the closest i can think03:10
kRaKoNwickedpuppy: have you used it?03:10
kitchekRaKoN and wickedpupyp let me find one that is good webmin isn't what I m thinking of03:10
wickedpuppykRaKoN, tes03:10
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wickedpuppythanks kitche03:11
wickedpuppythere is a web app better than webmin ? wow ... cool ...03:11
kRaKoNright webin is not that good03:12
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sethkkRaKoN, webmin is great for some things.03:13
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TennesseeHi all .. does anyone here have any recommendations for system monitoring over the web?03:13
kitchekRaKoN and wickedpupyp VHCS which is open source I like that one03:13
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hollaback83I cant chat other than irc and yahoo please help03:13
wickedpuppyVHCS ?03:14
wickedpuppyah k let me check03:15
hollaback83I learned how to write a language got familiar with linux/unix and still dont know how to hack. can anyone help????03:15
troughtonthoreauptic when i set a connect to server ssh i have put in my desktop name but it says can not find03:15
hawkaloogiehollaback83, what is your definition of "hack"?03:16
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wickedpuppyhollaback83, and what language ?03:16
ixianwhat does it mean when a package has the little ubuntu circle thing by it in synaptic package manager?03:16
hollaback83i really dont know that is the problem. I guess it means to go somewhere without permission03:16
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hawkaloogiehollaback83, that is called "Cracking", and it is illegal03:17
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hawkaloogiedo not ask for help on cracking on this network03:17
hollaback83so whats hacking03:17
LjLhollaback83: doing unusual and interesting stuff with computers03:17
kitchehollaback83: pretty much it means your a nerd :)03:17
darkauracan some one tell me how I can restore my mp3 player I tried formating it and it went dead03:17
LjLor that03:17
halex-abixian, it means it's part of the main repos, not in Universe, Multiverse, or your custom repos03:17
ixianoh i see.. thanks03:18
hollaback83i understand03:18
troughtonthoreauptic when i set a connect to server ssh i have put in my desktop name but it says can not find03:18
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wickedpuppyhollaback83, i would like to know what language you learnt ?03:18
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hollaback83python03:18
k82l..03:18
hollaback83and some of c++03:18
hollaback83the easiest ha ha03:19
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hawkaloogieand this took you how long?03:19
wickedpuppyi thought shellcode + c ....03:19
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troughtonsethk i am new to linux how do i brows my network ??03:20
hollaback83 a few months for python and c++ i took inschool03:20
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hobbesmastertroughton: as in smb shares03:20
hobbesmaster?03:20
hawkaloogiehollaback83, so what have you done in those languages?03:20
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troughtonhobbesmaster as in smb shares meens nothing to me i am new to linux i dont know what you are talking about03:21
hollaback83the first program that i wrote let me use my webcam in black and white03:21
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pohwomcan you raid with 'fdisk' ?03:21
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wickedpuppytroughton, browse your network like windows ? you can see all the computers connected to the same network as your computer ?03:22
cschneidhow hard is a dual headed setup to do w/ nvidia drivers?03:22
halex-abcschneid, not super hard.. lol03:22
kRaKoNkitche: VHCS looks great, I will install it right away03:22
sethkcschneid, not hard at all, you just edit the configuration file correctly.03:22
kRaKoNktiche: thank you ;)03:22
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cschneidsethk, so it's just an xorg.conf issue I can google up?03:22
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halex-abcschneid, as long as you have the nvidia driver already installed, yes..03:23
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cschneidthats good :) thanks all03:23
newpZhi how do i setup a vncserver on 1 pc so i can see the screen of the logged in user?03:23
newpZvncserver ip:1         that give a new desktop03:24
troughtonwickedpuppy i am running a linux ubuntu desktop and a linux ubuntu laptop i want to move files from my desktop to my laptop i have installed samba and openssh-server as i have been advised to by people in here but still cant see my network and when people advise me they leve me without me still having access03:24
Pierre!nvidia > cschneid03:24
Pierrecschneid: then twinview03:24
GoldKeepererm..  does anyone know why my GUI would be super slow after upgrading to edgy ?03:25
holycowan error of some sort.  the new gnome version is super fast03:25
wickedpuppywha .. troughton the moral of the story is don't do things unless you know ? well let me see if i can help ya there ... first ..is samba server running ??03:25
kitchetroughton: well you need to use something like lineighborhood which is sorta like Network Neighboring in windows but for linux03:25
troughtonyes03:25
GoldKeeperhmmm03:25
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GoldKeeperlet me try a reboot03:26
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holycowtroughton, samba is only usefull for windows access/services03:26
holycowtroughton, just make sure you have ssh installed and do places / connect to server03:26
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troughtonwickeduppy this is basics in windows windows can see window and linux linux can see windows and exchange files without installing anything else or setting anything so why is it so hard in linux ?/03:26
holycowand type in the ssh information ... a link will be placed on your desktop, just click it and copy / paste files03:26
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holycowtroughton, its not hard, you just haveto know what you are doing and which protocol to use03:27
holycowon windows they have ONE protocol and it seems easy because everyone forgets that there is mroe than one way to transfer files03:27
wickedpuppyyup ... troughton we don't usually use smb for linux to linux ...03:27
troughtonholycow i have ssh installed and have done places conect to server but what do i put under server03:27
holycowon linux its easier and far more secure you just need to know what protocol to match to what file sharing need03:27
LjLwell, i do03:28
holycowtroughton, ip address03:28
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troughtoni tryed ip address holycow03:28
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ChocoCidneed a port after it, maybe03:28
holycowport is 2203:28
GoldKeeperhmm03:28
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wickedpuppytroughton, can tell us the exact ip address of the two machines and the command you are typing pls03:28
holycowusername is the neame you login on th eother machine03:29
sethkChocoCid, no, you don't use explicit ports03:29
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troughtonso i have to change the ip every time i reboot my computer ??03:30
holycowno03:30
holycowi told you03:30
sethktroughton, why?03:30
holycowit will place a shortcut on your desktop03:30
holycowjesus03:30
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sethktroughton, if the machines are not in DNS and you reference them by IP and their IP address changes, then the command would change, yes, if that's what you mean.03:31
troughtoni dont have static ip's everytime i reboot i my router gives each mashien a new ip03:31
troughtonthey are on a dns03:31
digital_citizen_holycow, holycow...........03:31
holycowtroughton, then you need a local dns that tracks the machines03:31
sethktroughton, then use their name03:31
hollaback83Are there community groups in boston mass03:31
Dr_willistroughton,  you mean a DHCP ?03:31
sethktroughton, that's the entire point of DNS, so you can translate names to IP addresses03:31
GoldKeeperanyone have any ideas why my GUI is super slow after upgrading to edgy03:31
kitchehollaback83: yeah if you mean a LUG03:32
troughtondhcp yer sorry Dr_willis03:32
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sethkGoldKeeper, specifically, no, but other people have had the same problem.03:32
GoldKeepereek03:32
holycowGoldKeeper, try deleting your .gnome and .gnome2 dirs and loging out and logging back in03:32
GoldKeeperany fixs03:32
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GoldKeeperok03:32
BrianGsethk: i can safely remove this ~/BitTornado-CVS  correct?03:32
sethktroughton, if the machine name is   xyz,  then you would do    sftp whatever@xyz03:32
hollaback83yeah a lug03:32
Dr_willistroughton,  if you are running the dhcp server.. they can be set to assign specific ips to specific machines.. or just set up the box's to use static machines03:32
sethkBrianG, yes, but reverse the /etc/mailcap change03:32
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sethkDr_willis, he doesn't need to do that, the machines are in DNS03:33
troughtonok thanks03:33
sethkDr_willis, he shouldn't be using IPs in the first place.03:33
holycowbtw, you should be aware that windows machines find them selves because they run their own dns services internally03:33
BrianGsethk: why reverse it?03:33
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Dr_willissethk,  i think he miss-spoke and ment using DHCP when he said 'dns'03:33
sethkBrianG, because you said you are going to delete the program that it is pointing to03:33
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bruenigcan you open something with the terminal, and then close the terminal and have it still run?03:33
sethkDr_willis, I don't think so, no, but I suppose it's possible.03:33
GoldKeeperdeleting the .gnome dirs didnt seem to work03:33
sethktroughton, did you make an error when you said the machines are in DNS?03:34
holycowsethk, why not? how is he going to find resolve the machine names without dns?03:34
kitchebruenig: yes if you send the process to the background03:34
troughtonyes i did sethk03:34
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Dr_willisGoldKeeper,  theres also the .gconf* dirs03:34
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sethkholycow, I didn't say he is going to resolve names without DNS.  I said that _he_ said that DNS is _already_ set up.03:34
holycowoh he has a dns server? in which case use the machine names03:34
GoldKeeperill try thoose two03:34
holycowsethk, my bad *nod*03:34
sethkholycow, right, only now it turns out that apparently he hasn't  :)03:34
bruenigkitche, like lets say I want to open totem with the terminal, what would the command be, as opposed to just "totem" to have it be able to open and then stay open when I close the terminal03:34
sethkholycow, but he did say he had03:34
PhuzionIs there a network auto-config wizard thing through bash?03:34
sethkand Dr_willis is right again  :)03:34
Dr_willis:)03:35
sethkPhuzion, any program can be started with bash.   try network-admin03:35
holycowsethk, i missed that *nod*03:35
Dr_willisa "FIRST" according to my wife...03:35
Dr_willis:)03:35
kitchebruenig: totem & will keep it running until you log out03:35
sethkPhuzion, you'll need to run it as root, of course03:35
troughtonsorry for all the trubble everyone i told u i was lerning you have been a grate help thank you everyone03:35
bruenigwhen I do totem &, and then close the terminal, totem still closes03:35
regfireHello all, anyone have any luck with dapper and an ATI x1600 pro.....I havent dove into making it work yet and was wondering if anyone had any pointers03:35
sethktroughton, not trying to give you a hard time.03:36
Phuzionsethk, I'm talking about the wizard that comes up during installation03:36
sethktroughton, if you don't know what something means, then ask.03:36
kitchebruenig: odd it should stay open03:36
sethkPhuzion, I don't know whether the same wizard comes up during installation.  why would you want that one instead of the normal one?03:36
bruenigthat was my thought03:36
holycowtroughton, its no big deal, happy to help03:36
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Phuzionsethk:  This machine has no desktop manager03:36
PhuzionIt's just bash03:36
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PhuzionI'll be back soon03:37
sethkPhuzion, in that case I would just edit the config files.  I don't know whether the text mode installer's network setup is available or not03:37
Phuzionk, thanks anyways03:37
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GoldKeepergui is still super slow03:38
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sethkGoldKeeper, until something fixes it, it will continue to be slow.03:38
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sethkGoldKeeper, any idea where it is spending it's time?   does top show anything interesting?03:39
digip1mpbah this sucks... I can't get my wireless working in ubuntu03:39
torchieme either03:39
kitchedigip1mp what chipset?03:39
GoldKeeperthings like moving windows minimizing or scrolling a website is what is very slow, there are no interesting signs of anything03:40
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digip1mpnot sure, but it's the linksys wpc54g.  I saw and tried this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5645... but it doesn't seem like installing the windows drives downloaded from linksys with ndiswrapper is making ubuntu use those drivers for the card...03:41
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digip1mppretty frustrating...03:41
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Lam_i need something that can convert .bin files to .iso files03:43
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thoreauputic!bchunk03:44
ubotubchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB03:44
Lam_thoreauputic: thanks03:44
thoreauputic:)03:44
httpdssdigip1mp: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=Linksys .... or ndiswrapper03:44
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regfirenice03:44
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dragonriotis there a way to upgrade to the 2.6.18 kernel without losing the Ubuntu boot screen?03:44
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dragonriotNothing really... better question; Is there a way to get Synaptic Package manager to upgrade to 2.6.18 or do I have to do it manually (I don't mind doing it manually, but I'd rather Ubuntu KNOWS that I've upgraded the kernel...03:46
kitchedragonriot: think there is a document on how to make kernel packages03:47
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httpdssdigip1mp: or maybe ... http://ubuntuforums.org/tags/index.php/wpc54g/03:47
dragonriotlast time I upgraded to 2.6.17.11, ubuntu wasn't happy with me, it said Linux was irretrievably broken...03:47
shuananyone know how i can play mp3 and other files i used to be able to play in windows03:47
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shuani think it might be called win32 or summin03:48
Dr_willis!mp303:48
darkaurainstall amorake03:48
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:48
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Dr_willisw32codecs are  NOT the ones for mp3's :P03:48
shuanso which is the one for mp3's03:48
Dr_willisread the !mp3 url the bot just gave.03:49
shuanthanks03:49
darkaura!amarok03:49
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org03:49
darkaurathats what I use to play mp3s03:50
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shuani have amarok but its not playing mp303:51
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ChocoCid!restricted formats > shuan03:51
kitche!mp3 > shuan03:51
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TimM_Does anyone here know how to enable the ica protocol on tsclient?03:52
kitcheTimM_ do you mean teamspeak client or no?03:53
guest_4I am about to reinstall my grub boot loader -> grub-install path .. but I am not sure what to put for the path. fdisk -l returns this-> /dev/hda1   *           1       19270   154786243+  83  Linux03:53
darkauraI know this is stupid whats the unmount command?03:53
thoreauputicumount03:53
guest_4do I use /dev/hda?03:53
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thoreauputicno "n" ;)03:53
kitcheguest4: grub-install /dev/hda if you want to install on the MBR03:53
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guest_4ok thanks!03:53
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TimM_kitche, I mean the terminal server client.03:54
GoldKeeperlol is there anyway to revert back to stable from edgy03:54
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thoreauputicGoldKeeper: not without much voodoo and pain, no03:54
kitcheTimM_ ah isn't ica Citrix protocol?03:54
dragonriotcan I upgrade to Edgy but only upgrade the kernel and nothing else?03:54
GoldKeeperk03:54
guest_4Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.03:54
guest_4hmm03:55
TimM_kitche, yup.03:55
guest_4I already mounted hda1, not sure what this is03:55
kitcheTimM_: think you have to use the Citrix client for that03:55
tonyyaru1sodragonriot: Sort of.03:56
dragonriottonyyaru1so... how?03:56
TimM_kitche, I have RDP and RDPv5, but VNC, XDCMP and ICA are grayed out.03:56
dragonriotI only want the kernel, nothing else...03:56
tonyyaru1sodragonriot: You could add the edgy repositories, apt-get install the kernel, and then comment them back out to avoid upgrading anything else.03:56
dragonriotah... good stuff... thanks.03:56
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whatthedeuceHey.  I'm getting very strange errors when I try to compile any c++ programs using Ubuntu.  Even a simple "Hello, World" program won't compile.  The error is about 10 lines long, and it starts with: "undefined reference to `std::cout'".  I have build-essentials installed.  What could cause this?03:57
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guest_4can someone help? I know it's something small that I am not entering in the terminal03:58
Phuzionguest_4:  What is your problem?03:58
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wickedpuppy whatthedeuce paste to us the code pls ... use pastebin03:59
wickedpuppyi think you didn't do include <iostream> .. did you ?03:59
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guest_4i'm trying to reinstall grub. I first mounted my hd-> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/    it's mounted, now I need to reinstall grub.. I tried grub-install /dev/hda but that did not work. Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.03:59
dragonriotanyone else having issues on the ubuntu forums?03:59
Phuzionlink to what you're having problems with dragonriot?04:00
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Ruffleshi there04:00
PhuzionSup04:00
dragonriotPhuzion... the forums are down...04:00
kitcheguest_4: chroot into where you mounted /dev/hda104:00
Rufflesis it possible to downgrade firefox into 1.5 again? (i'm runnin' edgy btw)04:00
dragonriotand now back up04:00
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guest_4how would I do about doing that? sorry :/04:01
Dr_willishmmm xmms wont start,,,04:01
wickedpuppyand my rails app won't run ... what a lousy day04:01
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kitcheguest_4: chroot /mnt/ /bin/bash if you mounted /dev/hda1 to /mnt/ but you need to mount /proc also04:01
Rufflesanyone?04:01
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guest_4ok it looks like it mounted04:02
guest_4do I now.. chroot /mnt/ /proc ?04:02
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whatthedeucewickedpuppy: iostream is included.  The code isn't really worth pasting.  It's just a hello world program.  I'm positive that there is nothing wrong with it (I've looked over it many times)04:02
kitcheguest_4: chroot /mnt/ /bin/bash04:02
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PhuzionRuffles:  I suppose it would be possible to remove what the new Firefox has on your machine already, then compile the binaries from the version you want, if you can't figure out a simpler way04:03
wickedpuppywhatthedeuce, well up to ya .. but if i can;t run it here then i can't tell ya anything ...04:03
xplic1twhatthedeuce: paste it anyway =] 04:03
ajtHi all. I left for the weekend and when I came home my Ubuntu system would not respond at all. So I did a hard reboot and when it went to boot all of a sudden I get  Grub error 17. Does anyone know how to fix this?04:03
guest_4ok that is done, so now I just try to reinstall? grub-install /dev/hda --no-floppy ?04:03
RufflesPhuzion, thought of doing so on synaptic..04:03
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ajtWhat file system does badger breezy use by default, ext3 or reiserfs?04:03
PhuzionI'm not a huge Synaptic user, so maybe someone else can help you out there04:04
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kitcheguest_4 yes but why the --no-floppy switch?04:04
Phuzionajt:  ext304:04
guest_4not sure, saw it on something.. what is that flag for?04:04
ajtPhuzion: ok04:04
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PhuzionAt least, that's my experience04:04
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kitcheguest_4 well it's something that you don't really need to use a switch for04:04
RufflesPhuzion, can't get any other version from my repositories.. :(04:04
mcscruffFFS @ Kubuntu!!!!!04:04
Rufflesthe only one available is bon echo204:05
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guest_4grub-install /dev/hda04:05
guest_4/dev/hda: Not found or not a block device.04:05
PhuzionRuffles:  I'm going to suggest then compiling the binaries from sourceforge04:05
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Rufflesnah.. i hate compiling :)04:05
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kitcheguest_4 you mounted /dev also?04:05
PhuzionRuffles, it's not that hard04:05
mcscruffbeen using ubuntu on laptop and kubuntu on Desktop, booted desktop ealier and it cant mount /root filesystem04:05
BuglouseI've just installed MuSE 0.9.2 On my Ubuntu Distro.  The option to create a Lame Server is not available.. I only see the option to create a Ogg Server.  I have Lame installed and I can listen to mp3s using other media packages.04:05
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whatthedeuceHere it is. http://monjaro.org/test.cpp04:05
guest_4no I don't think so, ok so I need to mount /dev >04:06
guest_4?04:06
RufflesPhuzion, yep but it gives me the impression that it messes up my system04:06
Rufflesplus i wouldn't be able to uninstall it04:06
PhuzionNot with Synaptic, no04:06
mcscruffguest_4, lost grub MBR?04:06
kitcheguest_4 yes you have t mount it to /mnt/dev04:06
PhuzionBut in all honesty, compiling is not that hard04:06
Rufflesi know how to compile04:06
PhuzionI compiled my first program after using Linux for 2 weeks04:06
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Rufflesi just don't wanna mess up my os04:07
mcscruffcompiling is best imo04:07
PhuzionYou won't04:07
guest_4mount /mnt/dev04:07
guest_4mount: can't find /mnt/dev in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab04:07
Rufflesok and how would i upgrade or uninstall a compiled software?04:07
Rufflesi don't even know where the files go to04:07
mcscruffRuffles, instead of make install , use an app called checkinstall , then u can remove the app easier04:07
PhuzionUnless you do something along the lines of rm -rf / you're not going to mess up your OS04:07
kitcheRuffles only way to mess up linux is compile a system critical software wrong04:07
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guest_4mcscruff, I am not sure what is wrong :/04:08
whatthedeucewickedpuppy: Does it compile on your system?04:08
guest_4I just now my boot loader is messed up04:08
guest_4know04:08
Rufflesi was talkin' about all the garbage it produces04:08
mcscruffguest_4, i missed what the problem was, could you paste/retypee it pls04:08
mcscruffguest_4, did u install windows or another os?04:08
wickedpuppyhold on whatthedeuce04:08
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guest_4sure.. I am trying to reinstall grub04:08
Rufflesi wouldn't be able to remove or even upgrade firefox afterwards04:08
guest_4I was going to, but didn't04:08
dragonriotis the Universe Repository the one for Edgy, or does Edgy have it's own set of repositories?04:09
Rufflesunless i compile it again04:09
guest_4but I think I messed up a small partition or something?04:09
kitchedragonriot it's own repos04:09
Rufflesi need .debs :D04:09
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mcscruffguest_4, open console and type sudo grub04:09
guest_4ok, i'm at the grub menu04:10
wickedpuppywhatthedeuce, yes04:10
wickedpuppyit does run on my com ...04:10
mcscruffguest_4,  root (hd0,0)04:10
mcscruffor whatever ur hd is04:10
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wickedpuppywhatthedeuce, how did you compile it ?04:10
mcscruffguest_4, setup (hd0)            <<change hdd if its different04:11
jsilvahi04:11
guest_4selected disk does not exist, do I use hd0,1 ? how can I find out? by calling fdisk -l?04:11
mcscruffguest_4, quit04:11
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jsilvado you know a good tutorial for compiling mplayer with flv and mp4 support or a precompiled package?04:11
mcscruffguest_4, should have seen some shit then it should be ok04:11
ArrenLexjsilva: if you have w32codecs installed, mplayer will support them out-of-the-box, or with default compile options.04:11
mcscruffruff|brb, use checkinstall to compile and make a .deb04:12
ArrenLexjsilva: google for the w32codecs package. Then you can just install mplayer from the ubuntu multiverse repositories.04:12
whatthedeucewickedpuppy: I figured it out.  I was compiling it with gcc rather than g++.  I'm used to using C04:12
jsilvaArrenLex: but .3gp files doesn't have sound04:12
wickedpuppywhatthedeuce, :P happy coding!!!04:12
ruff|brbmcscruff, mmmm.. now you're speakin' my language.. how can i make a .deb from the source code?04:12
ajtHi everyone. I just booted up my ubuntu machine and I get grub error 17. Does anyone know how to fix this?04:13
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mcscruffruff|brb, install an app called checkinstall (there is a deb on its homepage) , then do compile and make as normal but instead of make install , do checkinstall04:13
ArrenLexjsilva: that's different. You have to compile the codec. Download mplayer sources, extract the tarball, go to the libavcodec folder, and follow the directions found in the comments at the top of the amr.c file. That should set you up.04:14
ruff|brbmmmmm...04:14
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LSD`ajt: partition might be toast :(04:14
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jsilvaArrenLex: thanks, I'll try it04:14
mcscruffruff|brb, it will make a deb then u just install the deb like normal04:14
ruff|brbmcscruff, will it copy any file outside the source directory itself ?04:14
ruff|brbsweet :D04:14
ruff|brbmcscruff,  thanks bro you're the pimp!04:15
mcscruffruff|brb, i cant remember where it puts the .deb file, its either same dir or in temp04:15
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ajtLSD`: what do you mean by "toast"?04:15
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mike-ekimim tryin to get shell access to my box and its telling me that its connection refused04:15
zspada15i cannot get wifi to work with my broadcom airforce one04:15
mike-ekimcould that be a iptables rule, or something that didnt install with ubuntu, like ssh daemon04:15
darkaurahow would I format my mp3 player back to fat12 or whatever so I can use it again04:15
mcscruffmike-ekim, useing the correct username and password?04:15
LSD`ajt: kaput, dead, broke, you get the idea. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml#doc_chap504:16
ajtmike-ekim: you need to install sshd and make sure your firewall is open04:16
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ajtLSD`: ugh oh that's really not good04:16
mike-ekimyeah its telling me connection regused04:16
ArrenLexjsilva: or download this package, which is my own mplayer with amr support, but you might not have some libraries you need so it's not guaranteed to work. Make sure you have the libtheora package installed. http://arrenlex.diff.be/mymplayer_1.0pre8-1_i386.deb04:16
mike-ekimrefused04:16
wickedpuppymike-ekim, first .. is ssh running ? second is port 22 ? if so is it blocked in firewall ? if then user name and password correct ?04:16
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ajtLSD`: you know of any way to fix it?04:16
mcscruffmike-ekim, remember to use the -l option to choose a username04:16
CasHi, I've a 1GB memory stick that only shows as 130MB after playing with gparted. I think the  heads, sectors/track and cylinders are wrong but how can I figure out to what I need to set this?04:17
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mister_robotomike-ekim: netstat -a|grep ssh will show you if ssh server is LISTENing04:17
mneptonCas: use gparted to set an msdos disklabel04:17
ruff|brbmcscruff, will i need build-essential as well?04:17
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LSD`ajt: it depends on how serious the damage is. Find a livecd, boot that and see if you can mount and fsck it04:18
mike-ekimmister_roboto its showing that it is listening04:18
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mister_robotomike-ekim: well connection refused means you are not reaching a listening server port. sounds like your iptables settings are blocking it04:18
Casmnepton: that doesn't change the size does it? (/me tries it anyways)04:18
ajtLSD`: One set a head of you. I just booted up my suse rescure disk and tried to mount it but that didn't work04:19
mike-ekimhmm04:19
mike-ekimwell04:19
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mike-ekimwhat should i do04:19
ajtLSD`: let me get you the exact error04:19
ixiancan someone tell me how i can uninstall a program i compiled from source? i followed a tutorial in a book to install Dillo web browser, but i'd like to uninstall it but don'tknow how04:19
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ArrenLexixian: run "sudo make uninstall" in the dillo source directory.04:19
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mister_robotomike-ekim: i don't know the answer well enough without looking it up myself. can you just disable the firewall temporarily to test it. should work. that would tell you for sure04:20
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ixianthanks ArrenLex .. worked04:21
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BuglouseDoes anyone know where i can get the package libmp3lame?04:21
ArrenLexixian: for future installs, look into checkinstall to build packages.04:21
ArrenLex!checkinstall04:21
ubotucheckinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page. - DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!04:21
ajtLSD`: "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda7, missing codepage or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so"04:21
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ArrenLexBuglouse: it's the "liblame0" package in the multiverse repos.04:22
axelcool04:22
LSD`ajt: :/ tried fski'ing it? Or does it need to be mounted for that?04:22
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ajtLSD`: let me test04:22
ajtLSD`: rebooting w/ rescue cd now04:22
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ajtLSD`: I don't think it needs to be mounted to fsck it04:22
SnakeWhat kind of software could I use to control how my dual screen set up is?04:23
ajtSnake: what do yu mean controL?04:23
SnakeI wnat it to extend my desktop over04:23
Snakerather than mirror it04:23
LSD`xinerama?04:23
ArrenLexSnake: "control"? And, what card?04:23
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ajtSnake: xinerama woudl be it04:23
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SnakeArrenLex: ATI 960004:23
ruff|brbmcscruff, is it make checkinstall ?04:23
SnakeOkay04:23
Casmnepton: just did it and lost another 20MB :s04:23
ajtSnake: not sure if ubuntu has sax2 but you could use that to ocnfigure it04:23
wickedpuppyajt, isn't that suse stuff ?04:24
Snake!info04:24
ubotuinfo: Standalone GNU Info documentation browser. In component main, is standard. Version 4.8-4 (dapper), package size 209 kB, installed size 384 kB04:24
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Snake!info xinerama04:24
ubotuPackage xinerama does not exist in any distro I know04:24
ajtwickedpuppy: yeah, I'm just used to using it04:24
Snakeits not in the repos?04:24
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wickedpuppySnake, what is it that you would like to get ? pls ask here04:24
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guest_4ok, no luck yet reinstalling grub.. how can I paste to the paste bin?04:25
Snakewickedpuppy: the program they just said,04:25
ArrenLex!pastebin04:25
wickedpuppy!pastebin04:25
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:25
Snakexinerama04:25
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sureshot!xinerama04:25
ubotuxinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo04:25
wickedpuppyfunny .. i always win ...04:25
ajtSnake: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=34100304:25
guest_4http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26034/ there is my attempt.. can someone please help04:26
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BuglouseI've just installed MuSE 0.9.2 On my Ubuntu Distro.  The option to create a Lame Server is not available.. I only see the option to create a Ogg Server.  I have Lame installed and I can listen to mp3s using other media packages.04:26
PhuzionWhere do I edit DNS servers?04:26
BuglouseDoes anyone know what do to to get the Lame Option?04:26
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kfm82northwoodPhuzion: /etc/resolv.conf04:27
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Phuzionthanks04:27
ruff|brbafter having done the ./config and make thingy.. what do i do with checkinstall?04:27
ruff|brbis it make checkinstall ?04:27
PhuzionWhat is the format to add in an IP address for resolv.conf?04:27
PhuzionI don't have one on my system for some reason04:28
ArrenLexruff: no, just sudo checkinstall04:28
Madpilotnixternal, ping - PM me about your -ops request04:28
guest_4can someone please help me reinstall grub? I have work that I did not back up before this happened.04:28
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wickedpuppyPhuzion, nameserver 202.156.1.4804:28
wickedpuppydon't use that IP though04:28
Lam_!bchunk04:28
ubotubchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB04:28
darkaurawhats a good partioning program for ubuntu04:29
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Phuzionwickedpuppy, thanks04:29
wickedpuppynp04:29
mcscruffruff|brb, sorry i was fixing my other pc, you just use "checkinstall"04:29
wickedpuppydark, i l iike fdisk ..there is also cfdisk and gparted04:29
ruff|brbArrenLex, does it need to be run from within the source directory?04:29
wickedpuppyno no its for darkaura04:29
wickedpuppysorry04:29
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ArrenLexruff|brb: from the same place you would have run make install.04:30
mcscruffdarkaura, qtparted04:30
ruff|brbi see04:30
ruff|brbthanks :)04:30
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ArrenLexruff: essentially all checkinstall does is run "make install" and watch what files get installed, then puts all these files into a package. It's not magic.04:30
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ruff|brbArrenLex, would i need to do a dpkg -i ?04:31
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ArrenLexruff: no; checkinstall installs it automagically if it builds correctly.04:31
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ruff|brbmmmm.. cool04:31
ruff|brblemme try it04:31
Gk-s2-someone here know how to fix direct rendering: No ?04:31
CripperZhi guys04:32
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ArrenLexGk: what driver? what card?04:32
CripperZi wonder if anyone have used tspc ipv6 tunnel broker ... i need a bit of help04:32
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ruff|brboooh... the file i got from firefox's site is the binary already compiled04:33
ajtLSD`: I tried to run fsck.ext3 on it and it said to run e2fsck -b 8193 /dev/hda and that gave me the error "Bad magic numb er in super-block while tryong to open /dev/hda"04:33
RugDoes anybody have any experience setting up Dell Servers?  I just got one (second-hand) and I can't get it to recognize more then 2 SCSI disks at one time.  (port #3 & #9 seem to be the only ones that work)04:33
LSD`ajt: :/04:33
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Gk-s2-<ArrenLex> Gforce 4 mx 440 128mb04:33
GoldKeepererrr04:33
ArrenLexGk-s2: what driver are you trying to use with it?04:33
GoldKeeperi installed edgy but i aint getting no flashy aiglx effects04:33
yarddog!edgy04:34
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule04:34
Gk-s2-<ArrenLex> Driver?04:34
ajtLSD`: :/ is right04:34
b03nto!xdm04:34
ubotuxdm: X display manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-6ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 150 kB, installed size 748 kB04:34
ArrenLexGk-s2: yes. Pastebin the output of "/etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver" ; there should be four or so lines.04:34
kitcheGoldkeeper you have to enable thema nd install beryl or compiz04:34
ArrenLexSorry, that's "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver"04:34
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b03ntoanyone know how to put shutdown or reboot button on xdm ?04:35
Gk-s2-        Driver          "kbd"04:35
Gk-s2-        Driver          "mouse"04:35
Gk-s2-  Driver        "wacom"04:35
Gk-s2-  Driver        "wacom"04:35
Gk-s2-  Driver        "wacom"04:35
Gk-s2-        Driver          "nvidia"04:35
Gk-s2-sorry for flood04:35
ArrenLex!pastebin04:35
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:35
dragonriotI have an HP ZD8000 laptop with an ATI Mobility Radeon X600... I've seen lots of issues with upgrading to Edgy and not having fglrx functionality after the upgrade... is that problem fixed yet, or should I not upgrade to edgy until the next RC?04:35
Lam_Nvidia uses GLX; can ATI cards utilize the same rendering mode, or are we locked into DRI?04:37
Gk-s2-ty ArrenLex04:37
mike-ekimi did iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -s sourceip --dport 22 -j ACCEPT04:37
mike-ekimand the connections are still now allowed from that iup04:37
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judycan anyone tell me where the channel topic list is that is referenced when some executes  !pastebin  i have never seen a channel topic there04:38
ArrenLexGk-s2: can you pastebin your entire /etc/X11/xorg.conf, please?04:38
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Gk-s2-k04:38
ArrenLexGk-s2: how did you install your nvidia drivers?04:38
Madpilotjudy, type "/topic"04:38
Madpilotjudy, without the "", of course04:38
NineTeen67CometAny Aiptek U8000 tablet users in here? I've got one I have not been able to use since I got it a year ago.04:38
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judyMadpilot: ok thanks i will try it04:38
loper06what was the name of the windows app that can allow you to write to ur linux parition from windows?04:38
GoldKeeper!aiglx04:39
ubotuAIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.04:39
judyMadpilot:  of course thanks04:39
Gk-s2-<ArrenLex> Apt-get install nvidia-glx04:39
Gk-s2-<ArrenLex> Apt-get install nvidia**04:39
GoldKeeper!compiz04:39
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems04:39
ArrenLexGk-s2: have you restarted after doing this?04:39
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Gk-s2-<ArrenLex>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26036/04:40
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Gk-s2-yes04:40
ruff|brbThe-Terminator, :D04:40
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Gk-s2-and i have xgl with compiz too04:40
Gk-s2-but not work04:40
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PhuzionAnyone got some time and doesn't mind doing some one on one help with getting a machine onto a network?04:40
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freemindcompiz is old, try beryl04:40
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ArrenLexGk-s2: why are the lines Load"dri" 036. and Load    "GLcore"  commented out?04:41
ArrenLexSorry, ignore that 036.04:41
Gk-s2-Xgl04:41
ArrenLexGk-s2: ...sorry?04:42
Gk-s2-Xgl Tutorial ....said to comment that line04:42
Gk-s2-i dont know why04:42
mike-ekimcould it be that i dont have ssh listening04:42
ArrenLexGk-s2: try uncommenting the dri line. Leave the gl line alone for now.04:42
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babowhat's the easiest way to upgrade my emacs version ?04:43
Gk-s2-k04:43
mike-ekimeven localhost connect gives me refused04:43
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The-Terminator??04:43
yarddog!xgl04:43
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems04:43
ghostshadow189hi all , i'm testing  "gnome-terminal --window --execute perl test.pl"  , after that it opened a terminal window , but this window disappeared . so how can i make it still appear to see the result of test.pl script ?04:43
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judy!glx04:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:44
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ruff|brbThe-Terminator, hello mister04:44
baboemacs 22 isn't in the repos ?04:44
The-Terminatorah there you are Ruffy :)04:44
ghostshadow189what's terminator ?04:44
baboIs it stable ?04:44
The-Terminatorterminator me \as in the film04:45
loper06what was the name of the windows app that can allow you to write to ur linux parition from windows?04:45
jrib!ext304:45
ubotuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org04:45
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loper06thx04:45
Flannelbabo: emacs 21 is in dapper repos04:45
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ghostshadow189s1 help me pls04:45
erickmMy girlfriend would like to play a nice rpg game for linux. She used to play some windows games but I rather see if she would like some native linux games before installing windows on another partition. I have tried using wine but with my experience it only seems to work on few games I've tried. Maybe becaise of my 64 bit architecture and forcing the i386 to install? So.. does anyone know of a single player rpg games? Something with impressi04:46
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ghostshadow189i'm testing  "gnome-terminal --window --execute perl test.pl"  , after that it opened a terminal window , but this window disappeared . so how can i make it still appear to see the result of test.pl script ?04:46
baboFlannel: yes, but not emacs 2204:46
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hobbesmasteruhm, just open a terminal window and execute it from there?04:46
Flannelbabo: correct.  versions are frozen in repository.04:46
d00byanybody know why airodump-ng would freeze when running alongside aireplay-ng?04:46
Gk-s2-<ArrenLex> need restart x?04:47
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Gk-s2-brb04:47
windtwhello..Bug #63516 is fixed?04:47
ArrenLexGk-s2: yes.04:47
darkauraokay I need help I'll explain my situation I tried formating my mp3 player with linux, so I could possible get songs on it, I messed it up I was wondering if it was possible to restore the original file system on it so I can use it again04:48
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mister_robotoerickm: have you tried googling for linux rpg games?04:48
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Gk-s2-<ArrenLex> Didn't work04:48
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ArrenLexdarkura: every mp3 player I've seen has the option to reformat built in. Look through the menus.04:49
erickmyeah, I tried searching the ubuntu game forums too but could not find anything great for single player :/04:49
Alakazam_AIGLX, how can i get it.04:49
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The-TerminatorI know some games just got them from a linux mag04:49
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Shaezscheanyone know how to get the intel wireless 3945 card working on ubuntu???04:49
ArrenLexGk-s2: pastebin the output if "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE"04:49
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darkauraI don't think this one does its an Curtis 256 meg mp3 player that directly plugs into the usb slot04:50
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wooptydooI used easyubuntu to install xine, and somehow I have 2 versions of the program installed it 2 different locations04:51
guto<ArrenLex> sorry can you say what i should type again?04:51
ruff|brbThe-Terminator, wanna found bright-star and euro-chat here? :D04:51
wooptydooAnyone know the repository for the xine that will play encrypted dvd's04:51
baboFlanne: what do you mean by 'frozen'. I wouldn't expect anyone to rename it ... but I figured that maybe the newer emacs 22 might be in there :P04:51
ArrenLexGk-s2: pastebin the output if "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE"04:51
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wooptydooor a link to it?04:51
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CiausI have installed Ubuntu 6.06 on my home PC, an IBM Model x40 - All in One unit - , and the very first tiem it cam e up just fine into Xserver....after doing online updates, it no longer goes into the GUI04:52
gutohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26039/04:52
ArrenLexwooptydoo: you need to grab the libdvdcss package. This is not available in any ubuntu repositories because it's illegal essentially everywhere. You'll have to google for it.04:52
totall_6_7can anyone tell me why when i type users i get a list that is two of my user name??04:52
guto<ArrenLex>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26039/04:52
AbortDhow do i use dual monitors with ubuntu?04:52
wooptydooI got libdvdcss04:52
CiausI have tried to get back to a working gui by doing two whole reinstalls, to no avail04:52
jribtotall_6_7: type 'w'04:52
jsilvaArrenLex: thanks for the precompiled mplayer package, it does work ;)04:52
The-TerminatorRuffy we were thinking of putting them on viperirc but here would be a good place to04:52
guto<ArrenLex> how can i remove some shortcuts of keyboard04:52
Ciaushelp04:52
wooptydooeasyubuntu installed that just fine04:52
ArrenLexjsilva: glad I could be of help!04:52
wooptydooI just have 2 xines installed04:53
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ArrenLexguto: like what?04:53
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ArrenLexguto: Try restarting the machine completely. o_o that is very odd.04:53
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BuglouseI've just installed MuSE 0.9.2 On my Ubuntu Distro.  The option to create a Lame Server is not available.. I only see the option to create a Ogg Server.  I have Lame installed and I can listen to mp3s using other media packages.  I would like to know how to get the Lame option in MuSE.04:53
wickedpuppytotall_6_7, open a new terminal and try it again ... see how many did you get04:53
gutok brb04:53
thombonewooptydoo: google for automatix and be happy :)04:53
guto<ArrenLex> xgl add a shorcut "Shift+Backspace" to restart X04:53
wooptydooI installed that too04:54
wickedpuppythombone, pls do not recommend automatix here04:54
wickedpuppyoh boy04:54
totall_6_7freaky   :0       -                29Sep06 ?xdm?   2:04   8.08s x-session-manag04:54
totall_6_7freaky   pts/2    :0.0             19:53    0.00s  0.16s  0.01s w04:54
wooptydooand it screwed stuff up04:54
mister_robotoCiaus: if X is broken from the upgrade, you might find a clue in the log /var/log/Xorg.0.log (or Xorg.0.log.old from previous time)04:54
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thombonesorry didn't know04:54
guto<ArrenLex> I always mistake04:54
wooptydooI just want to keep it simple04:54
thombonemy bad, and aplogies04:54
rootlame is an encoder... has nothing to do with listening AFAIK04:54
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wickedpuppytotall_6_7, eh ah .... that has the answer in itself ?04:55
PhuzionHow do I install mp3 codecs for gnome music player?04:55
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totall_6_7wickedpuppy: sorry maybe i am being thick, but i dont quite understand it04:56
jribubotu: tell Phuzion about mp304:56
Ciausmister_roboto, thx.04:56
HLM!mp304:56
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:56
jribtotall_6_7: when you open up a new terminal, it registers as another user04:56
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nikinsry ... i was root :D04:57
jribtotall_6_7: the 'w' let's you see the command that the user is doing in the WHAT column04:57
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darkaura!cdrom04:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cdrom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:57
Ciaus!xserver04:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:57
The-TerminatorRuffy?04:57
wickedpuppytotall_6_7, look at the second column first row.. :0 is the console .. look at the last value it says its running X .. second row says pts .. thats i think its public terminals04:58
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totall_6_7jrib: thanks, now i get it, i CAN be thick at times lol04:58
wickedpuppylook for pts on google if you wanna know what is it04:58
jribtotall_6_7: :)04:58
wickedpuppyoh jrib already explained .. goodie04:58
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azureala few days ago I had managed to mess up my ubuntu (or at least X) by upgrading to edgy w/ apt... now i get a "no screens found" error, and it will not start the gui -- any advice?04:58
ANTDx1Hello.04:58
The-Terminatordoes anyone here use Mepis 6?04:58
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ArrenLexazueral: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:59
azureali've tried downgrading xserver-xorg04:59
totall_6_7wickedpuppy: thanks for the help :D04:59
ANTDx1I have a very big problem: my Ubuntu partition has a problem with networking and refuses to boot.04:59
SeanTaterroot cannot delete a directory. rm -rf has no effect, root is not permitted to lstat. What do I do about it?04:59
azurealArrenLex, i think i tried that before, to no avail04:59
wickedpuppytotall_6_7, sometimes see where is the difference between the results ... thats usually the answer04:59
Gk-s2-<ArrenLex> Did'nt work =\04:59
ArrenLexazureal: are you certain you're using the correct driver for your card?04:59
wickedpuppySeanTater, ls -l on the dir and paste here pls04:59
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ArrenLexGk-s2: pastebin your entire /var/log/Xorg.0.log, please05:00
azurealArrenLex, yea, i810-- it was already highlighted05:00
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SeanTaterwickedpuppy: total 0 \n drwxrwxrwx 3 root users 80 2006-10-08 22:45 My Webs (I replaced the newline with \n to have it on one line)05:01
Gk-s2-<ArrenLex> I don't have any05:01
azurealArrenLex, currently i'm backing up for a reinstall =/05:01
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wickedpuppySeanTater, thats 777 .. meaning anyone can do anything05:01
azureali might have messed up something else along the way05:01
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: but I can't05:01
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: rm: cannot lstat `/media/disk/Sean/My Documents from Linspire/Really old data/Old Data//My Webs/Tiki Tan website/pictures_of_our_salon.htm': Permission denied05:01
LSD`OK, so I install edgy from a CD but now it's prompting me to do a full dist upgrade anyway, WTF?!?!05:02
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AAAanyone here using kubuntu?05:02
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wickedpuppySeanTater, if i were you i would check on that file05:02
ArrenLexGk-s2: you used to have one. What happened to it?05:02
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: how?05:02
Gk-s2-<AAA> try /join #kubuntu05:02
wickedpuppybtw its a cd ?05:02
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bimberiSeanTater: is that on a ntfs partition?05:02
ArrenLexAAA: I am.05:02
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azurealArrenLex, perhaps my debfoster pruning of gnome* might have had something to do with the errors.... i had attempted to upgrade to edgy w/o ubuntu-desktop package =)05:02
wickedpuppySeanTater, is it a cd ? or windows partition ?05:02
SeanTaterbimberi: nope05:02
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: no, reiserfs05:03
Gk-s2-i typed gedit "var/log/Xorg.0.log" and make a new file05:03
ArrenLexazureal: what would happen if you tried reinstalling x-window-system-core and xserver-xorg?05:03
AAAArrenLex  I just /join #kubuntu but I am wonder about the lack of sound from amarok05:03
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: reiserfs 3, I think05:03
wickedpuppySeanTater, then i would check on that file05:03
ArrenLexGk-s2: slash at the beginning of that.05:03
ArrenLexSorry, don't use Amarok.05:03
erickmOk, everytime I download a game and try to run the binary I get this error-> error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ... Now I have pretty much all the sdl development libraries installed. I also had to recompile a game I wrote just to run it on my machine. Can someone please help? I am using ubuntu64 bit05:03
The-TerminatorDoes anyone here use Mepis 6?05:03
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Gk-s2-<ArrenLex> ?05:04
azurealArrenLex, because of my edgy sources, it would probably just get and install the same harmful versions05:04
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: What should I look for? (and how)05:04
AAAArrenLex  that is the default for kubuntu which used the xine engine that isn't installed , sup wit day?05:04
burepeHas anyone installed the Last Fm linux program? Is there an ubuntu package?05:04
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[5D] Silent_ChaosI'm starting screen before logging in with init.d. Is there a way to start screen for a particular user to access after they log in?05:04
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mike-ekimwhat is postfix for05:04
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wickedpuppySeanTater, see if the file exists and if it does can you delete it if not can you move it or something .. btw if it a shared partition ? why is it reiser ?05:04
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wickedpuppymike-ekim, mail server05:04
erickmcan someone please help?05:05
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: It's reiserfs because that's what linspire used by deafult when I created it05:05
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AAAmike-ekim  mail transfer agent05:05
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: it's an external hard drive05:05
burepe!last fm05:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about last fm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:05
wickedpuppySeanTater, tell you what ... go to another dir ... and delete another file see if you can do so05:06
mike-ekimoh05:06
mike-ekimis it known to be good software, or too vulnerable to security exploits?05:06
wickedpuppymike-ekim, its like sendmail05:06
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mike-ekimi havent worked much with mail daemons05:06
wickedpuppymike-ekim, its excellent05:06
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mike-ekimkool05:06
mike-ekim:D05:06
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: um -- I just moved the file I could not delete.. and it did move -- I'll see if I can delete it now05:07
nikinmy router does not let me traceroute... is there any special setting needed?.. an open port?05:07
AAAmike-ekim  postix or exim or qmail is your best MTA bet05:07
ghostshadow189hi all , i'm testing  "gnome-terminal --window --execute perl test.pl"  , after that it opened a terminal window , but this window disappeared . so how can i make it still appear to see the result of test.pl script ? help me pls ?05:07
wickedpuppySeanTater, ok05:07
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: I've been deleting files on that partition all day05:07
lakiohow can i get WMP9 streaming to come up embedded in firefox? gotta see my comedycentral.com videos05:07
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wickedpuppySeanTater, then perhaps only that file got the problem05:07
ArrenLexlakio: mplayer and mplayerplug-in.05:07
lakioArrenLex: THANKS!05:07
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wickedpuppyghostshadow189, why do you need that gnome-termial windows thing ? i will just open up terminal and type perl test.pl05:08
bimberinikin: what's the error?05:08
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: seems so, I still cannot delete it05:08
wickedpuppySeanTater, then reformat the drive05:08
Gk-s2-<ArrenLex> and now?05:08
wickedpuppyif you want to delete everything05:08
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: hey -- would it be possible to move it directly into /dev/null ?05:08
wickedpuppySeanTater, try it05:08
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SeanTaterwickedpuppy: mv: cannot overwrite non-directory `/dev/null' with directory `/media/disk/nothing'05:09
ghostshadow189wickedpuppy : i want to make a script to add it to menus and when i click to it , it appear a terminal to run the script i want05:09
ArrenLexGk-s2: and now what?05:09
wickedpuppySeanTater, are you deleting everything ?05:09
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: I have loads of GBs of important files on it, I can;t delete it..05:09
Gk-s2-<ArrenLex> what should i do ?05:09
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: no, I;m organizing05:09
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wickedpuppySeanTater, then backup those important files05:10
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wickedpuppyclearly something is wrong ...05:10
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: My backups went wild, and I;m colsolidating05:10
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ArrenLexGk-s2" are you sure you don't have /var/log/Xorg.0.log?05:10
nikinbinberi.. when i try to traceroute i get to 192.168.0.1 , my router.. but not any further05:10
wickedpuppySeanTater, if backup went wild then something already went wrong even before you got to this error ?05:10
wickedpuppyghostshadow189, ok ... ask in #perl05:11
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SeanTaterwickedpuppy: no, it wasn;t automated, it's just that over years of backups I kept them in different folders..05:11
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SeanTaterwickedpuppy: I've spend about a week putting them together --05:11
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wickedpuppySeanTater, you put your backup into that drive ? but now you are deleting old stuff?05:12
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Gk-s2-hmm now i have =D05:12
Gk-s2-http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26040/05:13
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darkauraokay when I try to format my mp3 player to fat16 it deletes the partition fine, but it gives me the following error:: Error committing device this can happen when a device is mounted in the disk try to unmount all partitions on this disk.   I don't have any partitions mounted05:15
digip1mpi give up05:15
digip1mpwireless just wasn't meant to be05:15
SeanTaterwickedpuppy: I put all my backups on that drive. But they were a backup here, and a backup there, not really very well managed. So I'm trying to keep them in one place now. I'm deleting the duplicates. Nothing big or fancy..05:15
erickmok, each game I find does not work with amd64 chips. Does anyone know where I can find some good rpg games for my architecture? :/05:15
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erickmI wanted to try lost labyrinth, i forced the deb install but it didn't work05:16
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wickedpuppynight dude05:16
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Josh43Anyone running a multimonitor setup?05:17
Josh43and not xinerama?05:17
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Gk-s2-<ArrenLex> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26040/05:18
ArrenLexlakio: what are we thanking me for? xD05:18
siriusnovadang05:18
darkauraanyone have suggestions on what I can do?05:18
siriusnovanorth korea tested a nuke05:18
ArrenLex...please ignore me.05:18
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ArrenLexGk-s2: I saw it, man.05:19
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MTecknologyi'm trying to follow these instructions now - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25151 ... i dide dmesg | grep wacom - and got nothing... then i searched synaptics for wacom and everything it returned was installed05:19
MTecknologyso, what do i do?05:19
Gk-s2-<ArrenLex> and?05:19
macographerCan someone tell me what OCaml is, in reference to the libpcre-ocaml package?05:20
macographeri'm trying to figure out if that's the package i need.05:20
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ArrenLexSorry, I don't know... you should be fine. The best I can tell you is to suggest a guide that worked for me with an nvidia card. But you should be fine and I don't know what your problem is. Sorry.05:20
Gk-s2-=) ok05:20
Gk-s2-thank you05:20
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Lam_how do i correctly play back RM files? (real media)  or, preferably, how do i sucessfully convert said RM file into something better?05:21
ArrenLexGk-s2: http://tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.txt05:21
ArrenLexLam: mplayer and mencoder, respectively! :D05:21
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Lam_ArrenLex, lol thanks05:21
five_linuxok... lets say i'm booting my system, and apparently hdb1 has some fs errors, but its locking up while checking the drive.... is there a way to just check the drive in the background and keep booting?05:22
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Josh43five_linux, you can CTRL-C it, then check it again once you are booted05:23
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holycowsiriusnova, no geologic activity has been detected05:23
holycowno one knows yet05:23
ArrenLexfive_linux: no, because you cannot have the filesystem write-mounted if you're fscking it.05:23
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Josh43five_linux, I ran into that same problem, but doing esc (to cancel the graphc boot loader), then ctrl-c to cancel the scan05:23
ArrenLexfive_linux: you can, of course, cancel the scan, as others have suggested.05:23
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PauloFurquimHello everbody..Good evening05:24
ArrenLex!hi05:24
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!05:24
siriusnovaholycow - is there a link to any place that has live siesmic activity feeds?05:24
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brueniglol, there is a !hi factoid05:24
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holycowsiriusnova, not sure, us geologic survey might?05:25
five_linuxdangit waht the heck05:25
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YBH_1anyon eknow why fetchmail is silent when retrieving email on th ecommandline I tried fetchmail -vv which just showed a liost of UIDL's but not stating what email is being retreived.05:26
five_linuxcan't esc from graphic bootloader...  when it starts checking the drive tho it drops to console view, except I can't seem to ctrl-c the fsck process05:26
YouCeyEi am behind a router and no-ip client does not get wan ip.. it is getting 192.168.0.x address.. how can i fix this?05:26
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Josh43YouCeyE, the linux client, I assume?05:26
YouCeyEyes05:26
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kitcheYouCeyE: it will get your local address but it sends gets the wan address also05:27
Josh43YouCeyE, Official one? cause I know there is a setting in the windows version to query for the ip externally05:27
YouCeyEhow?05:27
YouCeyEits the same case with dyndns client05:27
YouCeyEkitche, how to force it to get wan address05:28
kitcheYouCeyE: it grabs it automaticlly but set up port forwarding05:28
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YouCeyEwhat port? kitche05:28
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TheMoebiusif I have an rpm for a package how should I convert that to a .deb to install in ubuntu?05:29
kitcheYouCeyE: the port that the client uses05:29
kitcheTheMoebius: use alien05:29
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darkaurahow would I enable a disk to wrote to if root mounts the disk05:30
loper06can i use vmware w/ the ex2 ifs plugin for windows?05:30
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holycowyes butyour windows gueswt won't be able to see your hd05:30
hoodlum_hi, erm. my inet times out frequently, like every few minutes then starts working again, im kinda confused to as why its doing this, im guessing it may be a route issue05:30
holycowyou still haveto setup file sharing via vmware gui dealier which basically shares a local folder via samba anyway05:30
Arafangionhoodlum_: It could be /anything/05:30
holycowso its a pointless idea05:31
hoodlum_heh.. yer05:31
hoodlum_i figured05:31
hoodlum_but like, its frustrating05:31
hoodlum_doesnt time out in windows on my laptop05:31
hoodlum_but for some reason, on my desktop it likes to do so05:31
loper06holycow: so the only way to transfer files with vmware is to use samba?05:31
Josh43loper06, Yes05:31
Arafangionloper06: It's the best way.05:32
Arafangionloper06: There's other ways, but they're extremely convoluted.05:32
ixiansomeone here mentioned earlier a program that makes uninstalling programs that were compiled from source easier/less messy.. does anyone know what it it called?05:32
Josh43loper06, And potentially damaging05:32
bioticproHow can I enter interactive boot setup in Ubuntu?  (tried hitting "I" , didn't work)05:32
loper06err. sorta stupid.05:32
kitcheixian: checkinstall05:32
ixianyeah thats the one..05:32
loper06but u cant get everything05:32
holycowloper06, its just that why would you even ask?05:32
ixianthanks05:32
holycowit is a trully stupid question05:32
holycowbecause vmware actually gives you a transparent gui to set up file transfers05:33
ixian!checkinstall05:33
ubotucheckinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page. - DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!05:33
holycowloper06, lol i just read what i wrote, i don't mean to sound like a jerk05:33
holycow:)05:33
holycowhehe05:33
holycowsorry05:33
loper06heh. np.05:33
loper06imo i like instant feedback05:34
loper06rather than wait 5 mins and get feedback05:34
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holycowloper06, think of it this way, vmware gives you a convenient transfer mechanism ... once you have your guest os installed you can do whatever that guest os lets you05:35
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five_linuxuuuuuuuggggghhh05:37
five_linuxtons of I/O errors on this drive...05:37
freemindsee whos there05:37
freemindholycow05:37
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freemindhow are you mate05:37
holycow>_>05:38
holycowcool,  you?05:38
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freemindme2 :) how u doin05:38
macographercan anyone tell me where libpcre3 is usually installed? i can't seem to find it with locate, and i need to tell nginx where it's located.05:38
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DyegovHi, I need help, I can't play any MP3 file in Ubuntu, it just doesn't recognize it, and also I can see youtube videos but they don't have sound, and I think it's due to the same problem T_T05:39
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jmerlinanyone know why my dvd won't play on my ubuntu?05:39
holycow!dvd05:39
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages05:39
holycow!mp305:39
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:39
holycow!flash05:39
holycow!sound05:39
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems05:39
jmerlini've already got the css and gone over the stuff on help.ubuntu.com05:40
jmerlini'm not some moron who installed linux and doesn't rtfm.05:40
jmerlini put in my dvd05:40
jmerlinand it can't even mount it05:40
jmerlinthe filesystem says no files exist on the dvd05:40
DyegovMy PC plays sounds, I'm listening to a CD right now, but it jusnt won't play any MP3 file05:40
jmerlini put in a cd and it reads the contents just fine.05:40
holycowjmerlin, let me guess, you are using edgy?05:40
jmerlinedgy?05:40
Dyegovwhat can I do?05:41
holycowDyegov, read the  mp3 stuff i postd up there05:41
holycowyou need the right plugins05:41
freemindesgy is the actual unstable release, Dyegov05:41
freemind*edgy05:41
holycowjmerlin, so you want to actually mount the dvd and browse it instead of play the dvd?05:41
Jack_Sparrow!libdvdcss05:41
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages05:42
jmerlini want to play it05:42
jmerlinbut how can you read the files if it's not mounted?05:42
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holycowmake sure you read jacks info too05:42
jmerlinxine freezes up when i try to play 'dvd'05:42
Dyegovwhat did you posted holycow?05:42
holycowjmerlin, because it just reqads the data stream from the drive directly05:42
holycow!mp305:42
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:42
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Josh43jmerlin, Try another DVD - these days they are tossing random garbage in some dvds as copy protection05:42
PauloFurquimanybody know how to write web pages whith PHP scripts?05:43
DyegovI'll see that, thanks holycow05:43
jmerlin"copy protection".. some people don't have working dvd players hooked up to their TV, we have "DVD Drives" and DVD playback software05:43
holycowPauloFurquim, people in #php do05:43
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Josh43jmerlin, TRUST Me; been there, had that argument05:43
jmerlini mean.. my PC monitor is bigger than my TV montior.. and it's got a much higher resolution so why the hell would i watch DVDs on my tv?? -_-05:43
PauloFurquimThanks holycow05:43
jmerlinstupid fucking companies05:43
holycowno worries05:44
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erickmcan someone help me run a game?05:44
holycowjmerlin, its a scame05:44
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yarddog!language05:44
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:44
azurealfor every company, there is an anticompany05:44
jmerlinit would be nice to ddos them until they stop being so gay.  if people are going to pirate, they're going to pirate.. fucking hell, you can't stop them05:44
holycowthey get paid by the producers for licences to the dvd encryption technology05:44
jmerlinyou can't stop them unless you send out a marine with every DVD you sell.05:44
Josh43jmerlin, I have an origional xbox with playback software, and it even cacks on some DVDs05:44
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holycowthey get paid by the producers of the players which must by licences to play the dvds05:44
Jack_Sparrow!language > jmerlin05:44
holycowits a giant scam05:44
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jmerlinwhen it becomes easier and faster to download a dvd and watch it..05:45
jmerlinthan to insert this dvd i got in the mail05:45
jmerlininto my computer and watch it05:45
jmerlinlike hell if i'm going to buy any more dvds.05:45
wilssgrantQuestion: I am getting a message "Are you sure you want to build without GTK?" when compiling mplayer plug-in for opera. Do I need to install some kind of "Gtk Libs" to do this compile correctly?05:45
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jmerlinthat DVD mounted fine05:45
jmerlinthe other one didn't05:45
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Clarrisadoes anyone know where the commands in the #ubuntu keyboard buffer are stored?  I'd like to dump everything I've typed at the commandline tonight out to a file, or, if it's in a file already, would like to back it up somewhere05:46
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MrKeunerhi, what's the best way to use for ubuntu macosx networking regarding file sharing?05:47
Josh43"How do I get this DVD/CD I bought on to my computer? What software do I need?"  "We have this great analog to digital transfer software, very easy: you enter in the name of your DVD, and 'torrent'" - transfers very quickly"05:47
Josh43MrKeuner, Samba on both ends05:47
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wilssgrantBasically my question is this: What do I need to download in synaptic to be able to compile a GTK application05:48
MrKeunerJosh43/ is it safe?05:48
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MrKeunerJosh43/ those are laptops05:48
DagnyHi05:48
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Josh43MrKeuner, Define safe; is it a home network? is it a wireless system?05:48
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evncan someone suggest a way to force restart remotely when the root filesystem is borked? i can log in as root via ssh but sftp doesn't work so i can't put a copy of halt in /boot05:48
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evnchanging the runlevel does nothing05:49
MrKeunerJosh43/ those are laptops and are connected to several networks in the daytime05:49
DagnyHello.  I'm a Linux noobie, but need to become proficient at Linux for vocational reasons.  Would Ubuntu be a good program to learn Linux with?05:49
macographerit looks to me like i already have libpcre3 installed, but i'm trying to install nginx (server software) and it can't seem to find it. it has a configuration option to tell it where the lib is located, but i don't know what to tell it. can anyone tell me where the default location is?05:49
Josh43MrKeuner, Well, unlike windows: Samba on OSX and linux is fairly safe; you can set user level permissions, etc05:49
erickmcan someone help with a game running issue?05:49
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Josh43MrKeuner, If you /really/ want to be safe; look up sharing both ways with 'sshfs'05:50
Squatch!smb05:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:50
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MrKeunerJosh43/ I would be afraid if people gain access to not shared places thorough samba05:50
DarkMageZDagny, ubuntu would be a good linux distro to start off with. but sbcglobal has banned their users from using it05:50
Josh43MrKeuner, Set up right; those people would have to brute-force the username and password05:50
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DagnyReally ?05:51
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DagnyI wonder why.05:51
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DagnyIs that just for Ubuntu or all Linux distros?05:51
DarkMageZDagny, all linux. just don't mension you're using linux and you're fine :P05:51
Josh43MrKeuner, Plus, you only give access to the folders you explicitly share: System > Administration > SHared Folders05:51
DagnyNo prob.  My  main rig is Win XP anyway.05:51
holycowDagny, vocational reasons? heh05:51
holycowneat05:51
holycowcare to explain?05:52
holycow:)05:52
DagnyI just need to take my old P3 533 and turn it into a Linux box.05:52
holycowDagny, pick any distro it doesn't matter05:52
DagnyFamily connection type of hire.05:52
MrKeunerJosh43/ OK I'll do your advice. Thank you very much05:52
holycowDagny, you want to start with maybe ubuntu first, then learn debian which is nearly identical, then try all the other ones05:52
holycowyou need to understand the general concepts as well as distribution specifics05:52
DagnyI figure I'll be doing lots of installs and uninstalls.05:52
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DagnyWould a 3.2 Gb hd be sufficient?  What's the difference between Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Xubuntu?  (Hard to tell from the main webpage.)05:53
Josh43Dagny, When you get serious enough: Try Gentoo from Stage 1: it's a huge learning experience, and you walk away after a couple days with a fairly good understanding of the inner workings05:54
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jmerlinDarkMageZ, are they allowed to do that?05:54
jmerlini'm quite sure it's illegal to force your customers to use an operating system05:54
kitcheJosh43: to bad stage1 is no longer supported for Gentoo05:54
jmerlinor .. not05:54
jmerlin"you can't go to this school unless your parents live in a 2 story 1 million dollar house and you drive a $40,000 car minimum05:54
Josh43jmerlin, They are service provider: they can make any rule they want as long as people go along with it05:54
jmerlinsue sbcglobal if that's true.05:54
DagnyThanks for the advice, JMerlin.05:54
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wilssgrantGuys, I am trying to ./configure source of a program and it keeps telling me "ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO BUILD WITHOUT GTK? BECAUSE mplayerplug-in WITHOUT GTK TAKES AWAY FUNCTIONALITY"  Any ideas how to get it to build with gtk then?05:55
DarkMageZjmerlin, don't ask me about american law...05:55
Josh43kitche, Really? 2 and up? why?05:55
jmerlini'm quite certain they don't prohibit linux05:55
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kitcheJosh43: They onyl support stage3 now05:55
DagnyEr, Thanks Josh.05:55
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jmerlinit's more secure than windows and it has a less cluttered tcp/ip stack so it's much more efficient on bandwidth..05:55
DarkMageZjmerlin, but it's a known fact that if you even mension linux to the tech support... they tell you "it's a hacker os" and they threaten to disconnect you05:56
jmerlini'd figure they would promote linux lol05:56
keleushow does one go about checking a file with a .DIGESTS file?05:56
keleusmd5sum doesnt like it05:56
wilssgrantAnyone able to help with my problem?05:56
evnor mine?05:56
holycowjmerlin, the biggest advantage imho is freedom.  no one can take it away from you.05:56
DarkMageZjmerlin, this was their policy 2 years ago... i don't know if it has changed since05:56
holycowand it will live as long as its users decide to keep it alive05:57
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bioticproI am having problems booting, stops while trying to load a driver, what should I append to bootloader line to allow interactive boot, or to get to a shell?05:57
Josh43wilssgrant, Look through synaptic for gtk dev, and install any dev package you run across05:57
MrKeuneroops, help E: samba: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 10205:57
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wickedpuppywilssgrant, first what is the program ..second have you search it in the repos .. third have you read README or INSTALL ?05:57
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keleusDarkMageZ, funny thing is, at the office i work half the desk does java, linux, etc05:57
macographercan anyone suggest a method for me to find where a library is located?05:57
jmerlinlinux isn't a hacker OS.. i could hack just as well on windows as i could on linux -_-05:57
DagnyThanks a lot, everyone.  I'm going to take my old rig and see if I can get Ubuntu up and running.05:57
wickedpuppymacographer, usually in /usr/lib .. why not just tell us the library ?05:57
Josh43jmerlin, better, in some cases05:58
DarkMageZjmerlin, please tell sbcglobal that... make them listen05:58
Josh43Dagny, HAVE FUN!05:58
macographerwickedpuppy: well, i have, actually. this is the first time i got a response lol.05:58
DarkMageZkeleus, yeah, the only way sbcglobal ever finds out is if you tell them :P05:58
macographerwickedpuppy: i'm looking for the libpcre305:58
wilssgrantwickedpuppy: program is mplayerplug-in, I am compiling it for use with opera, yes I have searched the repos but im not sure what exactly I should install in the repos to solve this05:58
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jmerlinDagny, if they say anything about you running linux on that machine.. tell them they can pay for your windows XP Professional and all the accompanying software if they want you to use it05:58
wickedpuppymacographer, try this sudo find / -name "*libpcre3*" -print05:58
wickedpuppywilssgrant, mozilla-mplayer - MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla05:59
wickedpuppyget this05:59
macographerwickedpuppy: ah. thanks.05:59
xUnaBxhello05:59
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darkauraholycow maybe you can help me05:59
wickedpuppymacographer, np05:59
wilssgrantwickedpuppy: I am building this for opera not mozilla05:59
Josh43wilssgrant, the -dev packages contain all the code that apps use to compile.. it's just a matter of grabbing the right one (though installing more than you need makes zero impact, except in HD space)05:59
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keleussoo.... nobody has ever worked with a .DIGESTS file?05:59
wickedpuppyLOL pardon me05:59
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keleusi would like to make sure that 1.2gb download wasn't a waste of time06:00
holycowdark, with what?06:00
jmerlinand i would highly suggest learning the gcc commandline very well06:00
wilssgrantJosh43: thats what I'm trying to ask, which -dev packages should I install to make this work06:00
jmerlinmost IDE's i've tried for linux produce so much bloat it scares me06:00
Josh43wilssgrant, Since I'm not sure, my vote is anything with 'gtk' and 'dev' in the name06:00
darkauraokay I tried formating my mp3 player yesterday bad idea now it doesn't work is there a program for linux that I can reformat my mp3 player so it works its a Curtis 256 meg mp3 player06:01
wickedpuppywilssgrant, i can't find it on repo ... well then can't help ya there .. i don't use opera06:01
bruenigdarkaura, you installed new firmware or what?06:01
darkaurano new firmware installed06:01
MrKeunerinvoke-rc.d: dangling symlink: /etc/rc2.d/k09samba what does this mean?06:01
holycowdarkaura, formatting the storage aread wouldn't really do anything unless its in a file system it doesn't understand06:01
bruenigdarkaura, what did you do in "formatting" t06:02
holycowyou would use the same method for formatting it, you just haveto research what file system it expects06:02
bruenigit06:02
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jmerlinanything interesting on slashdot today?06:02
wilssgrantJosh43: the readme says it requires GTK2 development package which I have installed06:02
bruenig!offtopic06:02
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!06:02
keleus!digests06:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about digests - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:02
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keleusarg why does nobody want to tell me what do do with this thing?06:02
Lam_!dvd06:02
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages06:02
keleusi have a has hand i have NO WAY to tell how to use it06:03
tritiumkeleus: use what?06:03
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keleusa .DIGESTS file06:03
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keleusit has some kind of ssh1 and md5 sum06:03
keleusbut i cant get openssl OR md5sum to work with it06:03
str8edgeis this for dapper only or edgy issues too?06:03
wickedpuppykeleus, if nobody is helping ya then try goggle ...06:03
darkauraokay I think its fat12 that my mp3 player uses06:03
tritiumstr8edge: dapper06:03
jmerlinhey holycow, do you know any good sites to learn the linux kernel from early versions all the way up to 2.6.18 with information and cross-referencing?06:03
xUnaBxhello, i'm running dsl on a libretto c70, and i'm on my way to buy a wifi card for it (pcmcia or usb). What brand/model shall i opt for ?06:03
str8edgeis there a channel for edgy?06:03
keleuswickedpuppy, i tried, but google keeps stripping out the period06:03
keleusand i keep getting crap about magazines06:04
xUnaBxoops06:04
tritiumstr8edge: #ubuntu+106:04
bruenig#ubuntu+106:04
xUnaBxwrong chan06:04
bioticproCan anybody please help?  I can no longer get ubuntu to boot completely, it stops while trying to load firmware for a TVCard, and won't continue.06:04
rbdhey guys, I'm running 6.06 and having problems installing asterisk-classic ... says that libgsm and libspeex are broken (they don't even show up in my list of packages via dselect, and yes I've done a apt-get update... do I need to enable software from backports, or grab multiverse ? (coming from debian so I'm not totally sure how ubuntu orders its stuff yet)06:04
holycowjmerlin, no one would bother with such a thing.  you will haveto dig up all that stuff manually06:04
Josh43wilssgrant, Keep in mind that sometimes ubuntu names packages a little different; I ran into the same issue once.. not sure what package it was, but it wasn't in the readme... if it tells you what file is mission, you can find what package exactly contains it06:04
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jmerlin=(06:04
jmerlinit would be very nice of someone to do lol06:04
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wickedpuppykeleus, btw what do you want to do with that file ? actually what is the problem ?06:04
keleusi want to verify the hash06:05
bronaughguys, I just installed ubuntu 6.06/amd64 on a new machine; Radeon 7000 AGP video card. when I move the mouse the system crashes.06:05
harrismhello everyone, almost every game I find will not run because I have an amd64 chip. Does anyone know where I can find some good games?06:05
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keleusi just downloaded a liveDVD and i want to check the hash before sending it over SMB to the computer that has a dvd burner06:05
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wickedpuppykeleus, and how did you search on the google ? the search phrase was ??06:05
bruenigharrism, did you install the 64 bit version?06:05
jmerlinhttp://lxr.linux.no/source/?v=1.0.906:05
jmerlinthat's cool but it only has a few versions06:05
KEA0463hello06:05
jmerlini want it from 0.0.1 to 2.6.18 =(06:06
keleus".digests" file verify06:06
KEA0463i got a question about ubuntu06:06
keleusKEA0463, we got answers06:06
KEA0463ok06:06
bruenigthis is no room for ubuntu questions06:06
DagnyI have a 160 GB hard drive that's already partioned into four partitions, would it be possible to simply install into one of those partitions without losing the Win 98 install in the other partition?06:06
wickedpuppykeleus, have you try putting .digest behind ? like verify .digest file ?06:06
harrismthat is just the thing, I cannnot find 64 bit versions. :/06:06
bronaughI'd love some answers.06:06
harrismthe only games I have are what is in my repos06:06
kane_Hi i have a package that i wish to remove but apt-get wishes to remove all of XORG and ubuntu-desktop to do so.   It is not a package that should have this requirement.  Its just the nvidia-beta drivers.06:06
KEA0463um how do i make my terminal see through without windows06:06
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kane_is there a force remove option somehow?06:06
bruenigharrism, no the ubuntu version that you did install, was it the 64 bit or the 32 bit?06:06
harrismall the deb packages are for i386 and forcing the install does not work06:06
harrismoh sorry, ubuntu 64 bit with an amd 64 bit06:07
bruenigharrism, must be 64, you should install the 32 bit version06:07
keleuswhy will google not accept the period?06:07
keleuseven in quotes it strips it out06:07
wilssgrantJosh43: Is there a generic file that is needed to compile GTK applications because I don't see anything that I need to install06:07
harrismreally? :/ so not many games for me06:07
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wickedpuppykeleus, that i do not know but i suppose you can go mad over it or go around that by putting .digest behind ... your choice really ..06:08
keleusis there a %## code for a period?06:08
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KEA0463how do i make my terminal see through without windows06:08
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keleusi tried putting it behind06:08
keleusno change06:08
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keleushttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=verify+%22.digests%22+file&btnG=Google+Search06:08
keleusand look at the results06:08
bruenigkeleus, the magic of wikipedia should inform http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MD5#Applications06:08
harrismbruenig, do you know of any rpgs that I can run? I like nethack but was looking for something like diablo06:08
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KEA0463 how do i make my terminal see through without windows06:08
bruenigharrism, not big into the games but I can tell you that unless you go with the 32 bit, you aren't going to find much06:09
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harrismok, thanks06:09
wickedpuppykeleus, try this "md5 .digest verify"06:09
KEA0463 how do i make my terminal see through without windows06:09
bruenigKEA0463, without windows?06:09
bronaughit doesn't crash when I use the onboard video06:09
KEA0463yeah you know the command line06:09
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bruenigwhat is windows?06:09
keleusbruenig, er... spurious link? (totally unrelated info)06:10
KEA0463can i make it so its see through06:10
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wickedpuppyKEA0463, transparent terminal background ?06:10
bruenigwell you said you didn't know what it was06:10
KEA0463yeah thats what i meant06:10
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kitcheKEA0463: umm no sicne it will be just black but you can make it have a background06:10
keleuswickedpuppy, that wont work, it will look for the whole phrase.06:10
KEA0463how?06:10
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keleusaah oh well. im sure it downloaded fine06:10
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jmerlinany linux devs in the house? =>06:10
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wickedpuppyKEA0463, go to edit -> current profile -> effect06:11
Se7hcould some one help me on the webcam spca5 driver? (edgy)06:11
bronaughjmerlin: yeah, but right now I'm more like a linux murderer.06:11
jmerlinhow so?06:11
Se7hbronaugh rof06:11
keleusi would think it would be more common knowledge, i see these files all over mirrors06:11
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keleusor does everyone just ignore em :)06:11
wickedpuppykeleus, i suppose i am not part of everyone ...06:11
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bronaughjmerlin: just installed ubuntu; threw my Radeon 7000 in there to replace the Via onboard; and now if there's sufficient graphics activity while the mouse moves the system wedges solid.06:12
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KEA0463ok i got it06:12
jmerlinmy system is locking up once in a while too06:12
jmerlinradeon 9700 pro06:12
KEA0463now how do i erase the tile arou nd it06:13
kitchejmerlin: have you installed any packages lately?06:13
bronaughnice. which little ubuntu rat borked the Radeon driver.06:13
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wickedpuppykeleus, i can find out md5 checksum but not digest06:13
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keleuswickedpuppy, im pastebinning the DIGESTS file, maybe you would recognize it?06:14
jmerlinmany.06:14
wilssgrantJosh43: You there?06:14
wickedpuppymaybe ... try06:14
kane_Hi i have a package that i wish to remove but apt-get wishes to remove all of XORG and ubuntu-desktop to do so.   It is not a package that should have this requirement.  Its just the nvidia-beta drivers.06:14
ryan__has anyone had any trubble with firefox randomly quitting06:14
darkauraare there any generic mp3player utilities out there that could possibly help me06:14
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holycowryan__, depends on the plugins and extensions you have installed06:15
wickedpuppykane_, if you do not tell us the package name ... how do you think we can help ya ?06:15
holycowa lot of times you remove all extensions and its back to normal06:15
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wickedpuppy...06:15
bronaughawesome.06:15
bronaughwho's fahmi-lonly06:15
silvertip257hello sethk, are you at your keyboard ?06:15
Lam_if i have VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS folders on my desktop, can i just burn them to a Data DVD using GnomeBaker and have it work on my DVD player?06:15
keleusforgive the spam, pastebin broke...06:15
keleus# MD5 HASH06:15
keleus97459098b26e1b79ffb1d36f71f29197 livedvd-i686-installer-2006.1.iso06:15
keleus# SHA1 HASH06:15
keleus386e68e235c3515df02310161dafec53a3ff28fd livedvd-i686-installer-2006.1.iso06:15
bronaughand which client was that that is overflowed by that request?06:15
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kitchean idiot that taking advantage of exploitable routers06:15
deceptaconhey stop sending me crap06:16
deceptaconfahmi-lonly06:16
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tritiumkeleus: stop pasting please06:16
wickedpuppykeleus, do this md5sum filename06:16
kitchebronaugh: it's the people's routers06:16
keleustritium, pastebin gave me a database error, what choice did i have?06:16
bronaughkitche: uhh. wouldn't the router have to be doing layer 7 crap to be affected?06:16
keleuswickedpuppy, did that. didn't work06:16
tritiumkeleus: another pastebin, or #flood06:16
wickedpuppykeleus, are you registered ? then pm me06:16
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kitchebronaugh: umm it's has to do with the packet quality option in the routers06:17
bronaughpacket quality? you mean QoS?06:17
macographerdoes anyone have any experience with the server software nginx?06:17
bronaughbecause a DCC send request with a long length isn't going to cause that to wedge.06:17
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kitchebronaugh: it tries to open a port that it can't06:18
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bronaughfun.06:18
bronaughso the content of the request doesn't matter eh? just the source and dest ports?06:18
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kitchebronaugh: as long as it's a long string06:18
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RealFGHello all. I'm trying to get setup with audacity and I can't seem to find where to set the Input source to be the line in on my sound card. Any thoughts?06:19
ryan__my firefox keeps crashing any idea why or how to fix06:19
bronaughkitche: causing the packet to fragment?06:19
holycowryan__, i just told you06:19
holycowplease read goddammit06:19
kitchebronaugh: yeah but it's sorta like the router DDOS's itself06:19
jmerlinbronaugh, you a part of any linux dev projects right now?06:19
RyEINicryan__, i had to uninstall my extensions to get ff working again06:19
ryan__oh inm forry...i must have missed it06:19
KEA0463there i made the text on my terminal bright green06:20
bronaughjmerlin: not really active, though I've contributed to rewind, ltsp, and a few others.06:20
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KEA0463with a brown background06:20
kitcheryan__: most likely it is the extensiosn that you have installed but it's segfaulting which can be caused by many things06:20
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jmerlinmyself and a few buddies are starting up a dx library for linux.. which can be compiled against using the directx headers used to write dx apps on windows06:21
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jmerlinif you want to join in you're welcome to =)06:21
RealFGWhat would /dev/dsp  be?06:21
bronaughjmerlin: why not start with the WINE code?06:21
holycowjmerlin, wtf would you do something like that?06:22
holycowyour just doing the work for ms06:22
holycowfor free06:22
ryan__the only extension i have is the english language pack06:22
kitcheRealFG: it's what OSS uses to output sound Alsa uses /dev/asound or /dev/snd/asound06:22
RealFGkitche: Hmm. Thanks.06:22
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kitcheRealFG: OSS stands for Open Sound System in that context06:23
bronaughoh, lovely. I just made ubuntu crash again.06:23
bronaughthat was easy.06:23
holycowbronaugh, ubuntu doesnt' cras, components crash06:23
holycowidentify the component and fix it06:23
bronaughholycow: I can't ping the machine now.06:23
brendonjthi all  it has been a while since i have been in here how is everyone?06:24
bronaughholycow: ubuntu, as a whole, crashed.06:24
KEA0463my laptop runs great with ubuntu06:24
bronaughholycow: not even a kernel oops.06:24
holycownot possible, ubuntu as a whole doesn't exist06:24
RealFGkitche: Ah. I'm trying to set Audacity to record and /dev/dsp is the only option. But I can't seem to chose the line in for recording.06:24
KEA0463better the xp06:24
holycowif you crashed the kernel then th ekernel crashed06:24
macographernginx?06:24
bronaughKEA0463: no, actually, XP would be more stable than this.06:24
bronaughwhen I move the mouse when there's some graphics activity going on, the machine crashes and can't be pinged anymore.06:24
dragonriotbronaugh... then go back to XP and quit your bitchin...06:24
kitchethe kernel is linux that's the only thing that is linux actually :)06:24
holycowbronaugh, your graphics driver is crashing06:25
holycowbronaugh, why not fix that?06:25
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bronaughdragonriot: no, I'll go back to Debian, thank you very much.06:25
jmerlin_sorry, system locked up =(06:25
brendonjtholycow: i agree  with you there  with that06:25
KEA0463i thought ubuntu us debian06:25
holycowubuntu isn't crashing, your doing something dumb basically, pro bably running unsupported drivers on an unsupported video card06:25
bronaughholycow: if Xorg were crashing, I'd still be able to ping the machine.06:25
jmerlin_we're not gonna use wine's stuff because it's going to be a high-efficiency implementation.. so people can basically compile their dx apps on windows for linux to run natively06:26
holycowbronaugh, not necessarily but anywhoo :)06:26
bronaughholycow: Radeon 7000, stock Ubuntu. just installed.06:26
jmerlin_the d3d will basically be mapped to opengl calls.. for now anyway06:26
bronaughholycow: that's pretty vanilla.06:26
holycowif your going back to debian, ehe i think that great at least you are using the good stuff :)06:26
kitchejmerlin_: umm that's like that one project that is trying to make it so exe work in linux but natively06:26
holycowhowever you are saying some rather dumb things, if you are using debian  you should know that a distro doesn't crash, there is no such thing as a whole06:26
jmerlin_we don't want an exe to run natively06:26
KEA0463whats the best linux version in the world?06:26
wickedpuppyKEA0463, freebsd06:27
jmerlin_we just want to be able to compile a dx app with gcc on a linux machine and run it natively =)06:27
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jmerlin_without needing wine or any messy crap06:27
holycowjmerlin, why?06:27
kitchewickedpuppy ? lo.06:27
KEA0463how do i get freebsd06:27
holycowjmerlin, why would you work for the devil?06:27
jmerlin_just 1 lib, idx  indirectx06:27
KEA0463i couldnt ubderstand how to install freebsd06:28
jmerlin_when we can show ati/nvidia/whoever else that with that lib running d3d through opengl that all dx code can now run natively on linux06:28
jmerlin_we might be able to inspire them to release full blown drivers for *nix.. including the d3d support06:28
jmerlin_then we could modify the lib to call into driver d3d implementations directly if available =)06:28
wickedpuppyKEA0463, its the best out there ... the rest are way way behind it :P06:28
jmerlin_make it just as, if not more, efficient than on windows06:29
KEA0463can u tell me how to download it and install it wicked puppy?06:29
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holycowjmerlin, but why?06:29
wickedpuppyKEA0463, www.freebsd.org but i cant help ya here .. ask in #freebsd .. or pls read the documentation06:29
jmerlin_i just said why06:29
holycowjmerlin, why would you want patent encumbered, evil business model to be even ported here?06:29
holycowthats not why06:30
holycowthats just blindly stupid06:30
jmerlin_why?06:30
jmerlin_it may be done by microsoft, i'm not saying it's not shit06:30
holycowbecause there is no reason then to code natively for linux06:30
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KEA0463ok thanks06:30
holycowthen everyone will just code for windows and cross compile to run here06:30
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jmerlin_not really06:30
holycowyes really06:30
jmerlin_if just dx can now run natively on linux, none of win32 shit api will work on linux06:30
dan2are there any bugs with /etc/lsb-base-log or whatever it's called06:31
jmerlin_so it's not going to be write on windows then compile on linux06:31
KEA0463wicked puppy i thought your favorite linux would be puppy-linux  haha06:31
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wickedpuppyoh boy06:31
holycowjmerlin, for the stuff you guys want it will06:31
jmerlin_but most major companies are coding games via directx and they don't have the resources to port it to opengl/linux06:31
dan2is there a quick system recovery live cd that has xfs tools on it?06:31
wickedpuppyeh keleus pls .. no need to make me cry .. lol06:31
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jmerlin_sure wine can run games.. and cedega.. but they suck ass at doing so06:31
holycowjmerlin, a smarter approach is to keep on increasing the linux market share and convince companies that there is money here06:31
host`ya'll ever heard of anyone else experiencing problems with 'ifconfig' freezing their machine up?06:32
jmerlin_the reason they code for windows is because of directx06:32
keleusjmerlin_, i say we all donate to a lawyer team to get directX GPLed. damn code-grubbing jerks06:32
KEA0463i cant get wine to work06:32
holycowjmerlin, porting directx here is just a shit idea06:32
jmerlin_because gfx card manufacturers are implementing d3d functionality in their cards06:32
jmerlin_opengl is less efficient now.06:32
keleusdx needs to die.06:32
KEA0463iam to stoopid i geuuss06:32
holycowjmerlin, if you want to do something usefully take our tools and pull them together to give us what dx gives them06:32
holycowyou can even do it so its better06:32
keleusjmerlin_ but dont forget DX also has input and such... much more than graphics and sound (if you include openAL)06:32
jmerlin_i know06:32
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jmerlin_d3d is the hardest one06:33
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holycowjmerlin, well i assure you i won't help06:33
jmerlin_the input, sound, music, whatever else are much easier06:33
holycowand i can assure you i will work against your efforts06:33
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keleusall we need is to get people to use openGL2 instead of DX.06:33
KEA0463what is freeBSD used for?06:33
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keleusKEA0463, same thing any other OS is for.06:33
KEA0463o ok06:33
rpckeleus sorry but this is not going to happen mate06:33
hanahello what do you think about comparing ms qord and open office?06:33
kitcheKEA0463 it's more like Unix instead of like linux06:33
keleusKEA0463, i like it myself, but i would not recommend it to the non-adventurous sort06:33
jmerlin_give to us what dx gives to them?06:34
jmerlin_we can't.06:34
holycowwhy not?06:34
rpckeleus it's like telling everyone to stop using windows, you still believe it would work?06:34
KEA0463is it harder than gentoo?06:34
hanams word and and open office?06:34
jmerlin_you realize it's STANDARD for video card vendors to implement d3d in their cards on the hardware directly06:34
holycowyou can create a whole company around it06:34
Arafangionhana: MS Qord?06:34
keleusKEA0463, no, its just different.06:34
KEA0463ok06:34
RyEINicword06:34
jmerlin_if you make your own new system06:34
hanams word and open office06:34
jmerlin_call it..06:34
keleusKEA0463, its more departed from the windows world than linux06:34
holycowjmerlin, dx isn't a standard06:34
hanawhich is better06:34
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KEA0463o wow06:34
jmerlin_ox.. open X.. a complete multimedia package06:34
holycowits a proprietary implemntation06:34
Arafangionjmerlin_: Do you realise it's STANDARD for video card venders to implement OpenGL in their cards on the hardware directly?06:34
rpcholycow ms windows isn't a standard either06:34
KEA0463i proolly have a hard time then06:34
holycowdx will never be accessible to us06:34
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holycowever06:34
holycowrpc, exactly06:35
Arafangionjmerlin_: Infact, some cards don't support DX at all - only opengl.06:35
keleusKEA0463, go to freebsd.org and poke around the docs (handbook especially)06:35
jmerlin_Arafangion, you realize that there has been no modification to opengl implementations for nearly a decade?06:35
Arafangionrpc: Windows is it's own standard.06:35
rpcso is dx06:35
holycowspending any time porting dx support here is to help evil expand their stranglehold06:35
rpcand many people follow that and they will06:35
KEA0463i cant even figure out gentoo06:35
Arafangionjmerlin_: Haha.06:35
jmerlin_you realize that with every update of d3d there are considerable updates on new hardware that support those features06:35
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holycowcongratulations on helping the empire conquer yet another platform06:35
SuperMiguelthere is any way to install blitz on ubuntu?06:35
jmerlin_opengl doesn't have new features06:35
jmerlin_it's the same from when i first started coding06:35
jmerlin_to now06:35
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keleusKAEthe nice thing about freebsd is the handbook is friggin awsome. i printed it out double-sided and needed a 4-inch binder...06:35
jmerlin_d3d has gone from d3d2 or whatever the hell was back then to d3d10 soon06:35
jmerlin_nothing is the same in it06:36
Arafangionjmerlin_: Obviously, you haven't started with the OpenGL Shader Language, and you haven't looked around too much with the extensions.06:36
holycowjmerlin, whatever they have is irrelevant06:36
dubidobidooelo06:36
holycowits not open source06:36
holycowits not free06:36
rpci'm absolutely on jmerlin's side06:36
holycowits not a standard06:36
holycowits not accessible06:36
keleusOpenGL 2.006:36
Arafangionjmerlin_: OpenGL does what it does very well, and they don't need to change merely for the sake of change.06:36
keleusis new.06:36
holycowits patent encumbered06:36
jmerlin_Arafangion, name a company that writes code using extensions.06:36
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jmerlin_please,06:36
jmerlin_i know epic doesn't06:36
KEA0463so freeBSD has more info then other distros06:36
holycowits controled by a company that has no morals whatsoever06:36
holycowand you seek to enable their empire access even further06:36
KEA0463as far as handbooks06:36
Arafangionjmerlin_: I'm sure many do.06:36
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jmerlin_if you want to code an app to run on 1 card.06:36
jmerlin_sure06:36
leonsidd06:36
B_166-ER-Xerr:ntdll:MODULE_THREAD_WaitThreadModuleSafe this should never happen. (unless wine crashed)06:37
dubidobidoooi06:37
bronaughholycow: considering different distributions apply different patches to their software set, if one distribution crashes and another doesn't on the same hardware, I'm going to blame the distribution -- or specifically, the monkeys that allowed in the offending patches.06:37
keleusKEA0463, not really, its just all in one place.06:37
leonanu homework?06:37
host`where would I report a bug?06:37
B_166-ER-Xi just understood why CVS cedega is free.06:37
SuperMiguelthere is any way to install blitz on ubuntu?06:37
Arafangionjmerlin_: That'd be a pathetic extension indeed.06:37
KEA0463less questions and more info06:37
holycowbronaugh, in that case you would fit right in on #windows06:37
mineraleYay! North Korea now has detonated a nuke...06:37
leonhi06:37
holycowwhy bother even using windows?06:37
KEA0463for thte user06:37
Arafangionjmerlin_: Name a case where OpenGL even needs to change?06:37
holycowminerale, no they haven't, no seismic activity was detonated06:37
holycowtheir state new agency just said they did06:37
keleusKEA0463, its hard to say. try #freebsd06:37
mineraleholycow: ugh06:37
keleusKEA0463, i havent done freebsd in a while06:37
KEA0463to scared06:37
jmerlin_the implementations of capabilities of d3d on the new cards are much more efficient than opengl methods of simulating those capabilities06:37
jmerlin_sure the cards support opengl06:38
SuperMiguelArafangion: when the pci-e came out they had problems with OPENGL :P06:38
KEA0463i just got ubuntu working right06:38
jmerlin_but they also have support for d3d, and MUCH more support06:38
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holycowjmerlin, that makes no  bloody difference06:38
ArafangionSuperMiguel: Eh?06:38
KEA04631 week later06:38
holycowjmerlin, not a bit06:38
jmerlin_you're using like.. 30% of what you paid for the card if you'r ejust using opengl implementations06:38
Arafangionjmerlin_: By any chance, do you actually do OpenGL programming?06:38
holycowjmerlin, create something that is free open and a true standard06:38
mineraleholycow: here is the proof: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/ustqab.php06:38
holycowand sell support and tools for it06:38
jmerlin_yes, i do.06:38
keleusKEA0463, i have distro fever. i''ve been all over the place :)06:38
SuperMiguelthere is any way to install blitz on ubuntu?06:38
mineraleit was a 4.2 magnitude quake06:38
holycowdon't enable evil to propagate06:38
KEA0463yeah me 206:38
mineraleholycow: happy ?06:38
bronaughholycow: I'm fitting you into the "arrogant fool" category.06:38
jmerlin_holy, i would need a conference with ati and nvidia06:38
holycowminerale, checking06:38
jmerlin_come up with a standard06:38
Arafangionjmerlin_: Ok, then your arguments have /some/ merit now :)06:38
jmerlin_have their hardware conform to it06:38
keleuswell i gota git goin06:38
jmerlin_then have ms conform to that with d3d06:38
KEA0463if i download the iso and i cant get an internet connection06:39
holycowbronaugh, i'm slotting you simply in th eidiot category06:39
jmerlin_you think that's going to happen?06:39
keleusKEA0463, iso of what?06:39
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KEA0463i move on to next distro06:39
Arafangionjmerlin_: The Wine folks are emulating DX very nicely in GL.06:39
jmerlin_no they're not06:39
jmerlin_LOL06:39
tritiumtake it easy, guys06:39
leoni love ari!!!!!!!!!!!!06:39
Arafangionjmerlin_: Not finished yet, but they're doing an impressive job as it is.06:39
KEA0463iso of a linux distro06:39
keleusKEA0463, what network card?06:39
holycowbronaugh, it really isn't my fault you don't want to use the 3 braincels you were gifted with06:39
KEA0463wireless laptop06:39
jmerlin_if by nicely you mean like building a car engine with wood06:39
jmerlin_sure.06:39
host`http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/dprk/nuke-test.htm06:39
dubidobidoosexy06:39
jmerlin_dx isn't meant to be translated into opengl06:39
dubidobidoosexy06:39
tritiumholycow, bronaugh - relax06:39
dubidobidoosexy06:39
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keleusKEA0463, touchy. ubuntu is best as far as that goes. FreeBSD had mine too... but i had to compile the kernel to add it.06:40
Arafangionjmerlin_: Perhaps not, but that's besides the point.06:40
jmerlin_opengl entrypoints and dx entrypoints in the video drivers are completely different06:40
jmerlin_your card supports the features of d3d directly if at all06:40
jmerlin_not using them is STUPID06:40
keleusKEA0463, atheros!!! freebsd would work for you but it would take a decent amount of work and research06:40
jmerlin_even if they aren't standard.06:40
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Arafangionjmerlin_: *HOW* can we use DX?06:40
jmerlin_you pay $500 for a very good card06:40
holycowjmerlin_, if its so great why do you even bother using linux?06:40
keleusKEA0463, and you are not going to have luck really anywhere but ubuntu.06:40
jmerlin_and yet you only use 20% of it06:40
jmerlin_wtf?06:40
holycowwhy don't you just go use windows06:40
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host`ok, now question, where can I report a bug?06:40
jmerlin_because windows sucks06:40
keleusKEA0463, what you need is called "madwifi-ng" or just madwifi06:40
holycowyou arent really interested in making linux better06:40
jmerlin_i didn't say windows was great06:40
jmerlin_i said the new capabilities of these gfx cards is great06:40
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tritiumjmerlin_: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, please06:40
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KEA0463how do i get that06:41
kitchehost` launchpad.net06:41
jmerlin_you seem to be thinking that i think d3d or windows is good or has merit06:41
jmerlin_NO06:41
KEA0463madwifi06:41
keleusKEA0463, it comes with ubuntu06:41
KEA0463oh06:41
Arafangionjmerlin_: Personally, I feel that DX is a damn pain.06:41
jmerlin_the new features of these cards is just sitting there unused and idle in opengl06:41
jmerlin_i do as well06:41
jmerlin_i hate the shit06:41
keleusKEA0463, i woudlnt go very far. Ubuntu is very good.06:41
holycowjmerlin_, no i'm offended that you would even consider help a company like ms expand its stranglehold06:41
tritiumjmerlin_: and watch the language06:41
Arafangionjmerlin_: THey do some _crazy_ stuff.06:41
KEA0463yeah ubuntu us kool06:41
jmerlin_helping ms?06:41
KEA0463is06:41
keleusjmerlin_, openGL2.0 has almost ALL of that crap.06:41
jmerlin_an open-source impelemntation of dx06:41
KEA0463kool06:41
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keleusjmerlin_, nobody codes for it06:42
jmerlin_calling into drivers06:42
jmerlin_that's actually a deathblow to dx.06:42
holycowjmerlin_, the moment dx is supported on linux is when the vid card companies can go 'to hell with ogl'06:42
keleusholycow, i say screw em both and start glide again :D06:42
KEA0463ubuntu is #1 on most downloaded list06:42
jmerlin_not really06:42
jmerlin_there's too much software dependant to pull the plug on ogl06:42
KEA0463thats why i downloaded it06:42
holycowkeleus, i think there is money to be made in doing what dx does but on a cross platform and open way06:42
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Arafangionjmerlin_: Yet MS pulled the plug on DX906:42
sheawho would want to pull the plug on ogl06:43
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keleusKEA0463, personally i have kubuntu (ubuntu with kde instead of gnome by default)06:43
sheathat's crazytalk06:43
jmerlin_that's MS06:43
jmerlin_it's proprietary06:43
Arafangionjmerlin_: As is DX.06:43
keleusKEA0463, also used xubuntu (same thing but with XFCE)06:43
jmerlin_everything from MS is proprietary06:43
jmerlin_at some level06:43
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KEA0463i downlaed KDE packages 206:43
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keleusi say MS needs to be ripped open with a crowbar and ALL of their assets be made public domain06:43
jmerlin_even the "source code" they release is shrouded with calls into proprietary shit06:43
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mineraleholycow: South Korean intelligence officials said a seismic wave of magnitude-3.58 had been detected in North Hamkyung province, according to Yonhap. It said the test was conducted at 10:36 a.m. (9:36 p.m. EDT Sunday) in Hwaderi near Kilju city on the northeast coast, citing defense officials.06:43
tritiumjmerlin_: I told you to watch the language!06:43
keleusnot just open source... _public domain) heh06:43
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holycowkeleus, i don't, i just think ms needs to get out of the os business06:44
fooCan I chroot an ssh user so they can only ssh out to another system?06:44
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_yell8w :P 06:44
holycowkeleus, that basically kills their single ability to lock out competitors and control the ecosystem06:44
Arafangionjmerlin_: Even my GL book talks about the war between DX and GL, practically saying that MS used FUD to propel DX into the limelight, even though it was /awful/ (at the time)06:44
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KEA0463Vista   yeah!!!!!!!!06:44
Arafangionjmerlin_: imho, it's still /awful/.06:44
mineralefoo: look into rssh06:44
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foominerale: hmm, ok. Thanks06:44
B_166-ER-Xlol06:45
B_166-ER-Xl'art de planter en partant un debugger06:45
B_166-ER-Xwine: Unhandled exception, starting debugger.06:45
Arafangionjmerlin_: The way DX deals with textures and pointers makes things rather nasty.06:45
B_166-ER-Xoups06:45
B_166-ER-Xsorry06:45
Arafangionjmerlin_: From a code point of view.06:45
KEA0463my hp says its vista ready06:45
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ArafangionB_166-ER-X: #winehq06:45
KEA0463yipppie06:45
foominerale: hmm, I want them to have a shell, but I only want them to be able to use the ssh command to ssh out. This looks a tad different, no?06:45
ArafangionB_166-ER-X: And speak there in English, as that's the langauge those devs use.06:46
ArafangionB_166-ER-X: Though, if you don't feel confident in English, let them know that it's not your native language.06:46
holycowminerale, i guess it is true then06:46
mineralefoo: actually rssh only allows scp/cvs etc.. use this: http://www.ffnn.nl/pages/articles/linux/setting-up-a-chroot-jail-for-cvs.php06:46
SuperMiguelthere is any way to install blitz on ubuntu?06:46
B_166-ER-XArafangion i know, it was a 'wrong window' mistake :)06:46
B_166-ER-Xsorry06:46
ArafangionB_166-ER-X: Ha :)06:46
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holycowjmerlin_, of what benefit do you hope this project to be then?06:47
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keleusKEA0463, i wouldn't bother. its like 802.11n - everyone says they can do it but we just _don't_know_06:47
mineralefoo: it's setup for cvs, but you just follow the same idea to only allow them ssh... but even better you could just setup port forwarding...06:47
holycowlet me try to understand your resoning06:47
tritiumjmerlin_: please watch your language from here on out06:47
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Arafangionjmerlin_: Anyway, we'll give this rant a miss :)06:47
Arafangionjmerlin_: 'tis was entertaining.06:47
SuperMiguelthere is any way to install blitz on ubuntu?06:47
KEA0463dont bother with what keleus06:47
foominerale: hm, ideally.. this is my goal.. to allow someone to ssh into me, and then ssh into another system.. and I can set up ssh keys on his account so he doesn't need a password for the second system he is going to ssh out to06:47
ArafangionLooks like jmerlin_'s banned now.06:47
keleusKEA0463, vista ready06:47
KEA0463oh06:47
keleusArafangion, your a few lines behind...06:47
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Arafangionkeleus: Evidently.06:48
jmerlin_yeah well06:48
foominerale: Is that link still the thing to do?06:48
Arafangionjmerlin_: /query me.06:48
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KEA0463i am in college taking computer classes06:48
holycowjmerlin_, so i'm gonna try to understand why you think this is a good idea06:48
keleusKEA0463, its like how you can technically run XP on 64m of ram...06:48
olofomg help =))06:48
jmerlin_i agree dx is horrible06:48
jmerlin_i hate it06:48
keleusKEA0463, but its most certainly not going to be a fun experience06:48
jmerlin_but you realize that it would take 5+ years06:48
holycowjmerlin_, how again do you hope that this will be beneficial?06:48
jmerlin_to make a new standard06:48
keleusjmerlin_, suggesting we drop the subject?06:48
KEA0463i am going for networking degree06:48
jmerlin_a new open-source standard06:49
holycowjmerlin_, expalin pls06:49
mineralefoo: yeah, the link with chroot jails for cvs06:49
jmerlin_because there is literally billions of dollars of hardware06:49
keleusKEA0463, same. hoping for security myself. got my a+ and net+ in the mean-time06:49
foominerale: ok, thanks. I'll do that06:49
jmerlin_that supports this proprietary d3d06:49
holycowjmerlin_, thats  not an explanation06:49
jmerlin_no, i'ts not06:49
KEA0463yeah hop i get a job06:49
keleusholycow, jmerlin_, that discussion almost got one of you banned....06:49
jmerlin_but it makes creating a new standard infeasible06:49
Arafangionjmerlin_, holycow; let's carry this out in ##gfxstd06:49
olofwhen i booted up my desktop ubuntu now, i got just a terminal after i typed in my login name and passw at login screen. then in that terminal i typed firefox to gain accec to chatzilla and now im here... anyways, i think it is because i tried to start another X yesterday... i dont know what to do now, please help me bring back my normal desktop someone =))06:50
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darkaurawell I think my mp3 player is toast06:50
keleusolof, terminal like black-and-white or terminals witha  mouse?06:50
olofi have a mouse06:50
keleusdarkaura, you format it as fat16?06:50
KEA0463security guys use unix06:50
keleusolof, your using twm instead of gdm06:51
KEA0463like freeBSD06:51
KEA0463i heard06:51
keleusdarkaura, also vfat should work06:51
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_yell8w olof:  tried startx ? 06:51
keleusKEA0463, we use it all.06:51
olofkeleus: say what? =)06:51
KEA0463oh06:51
olofill try startx06:51
keleus_yell8w, hes got TWM running06:51
KEA0463etherape06:51
olofuhm, i cant alt tab to the console anymore :P06:51
_yell8w oh, nvermind then 06:51
keleusolof, use ctrl-alt06:51
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keleusolof, but your already in X06:52
olofand then?06:52
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keleusbut your using TWM (tiny window manager)06:52
zeckalguem fala portugues?06:52
keleusyour xsession got goofed.06:52
tritiumtabbed window manager06:52
keleusi forget where but it needs to be set to gdm (for gnome) or kdm (for kde)06:52
olofkeleus: yeah i guess so, since i never rebooted yesterday when i was playing arou nd and tried to start another x06:52
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olofi have ubuntu, so i guess its gnome06:52
darkauraokay I cfdisk my mp3 player set it to primary fat13 max amount of space06:53
keleusarg! stop asking questionS! (just kidding) i need to get to bed06:53
keleusolof, yes06:53
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keleusfat1606:53
keleusor vfat (preferred)06:53
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olofhow do i get to normal desktop then? :SS06:54
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SpaceFrogi downloaded a file with a .sit extension.. How do i install it, or rather what do i do with it?06:54
darkauracfdisk deosn't give a vfat option06:54
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holycowSpaceFrog, nothing, thats an osx file if i remember correctly06:54
darkauraI write the partition06:54
olofi already tried startx06:54
yell8w olof:  config your xorg init file or something 06:54
keleusolof, startx isnt going to help06:54
KEA0463the game nexuiz is fun with ubuntu06:54
yell8w i'm not sure of the details 06:54
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SpaceFrogholycow: oh, i thought i chose the linux version06:54
SpaceFrogthanks06:54
keleusolof, x is running (or your mouse wouldn't be there, or would this chat window)06:54
keleusyell8w, his window manager setting got goofed, X is running.06:55
PseudoPlaceboHi I'm installing dapper. The screen resolution is 800x600 I want it to be at least 1024x768. Also- I'm using dual-screen how hard is it to eventually set up dual screen on Ubuntu?06:55
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yell8w keleus:  that's why i said config his init file and restart it or something 06:55
olofi have no idea how to even edit it =(06:55
darkauraquit it and when I try to mount /mnt/sdc /media/mp3 -t vfat it givs this error06:55
darkauramount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc,06:56
darkaura       missing codepage or other error06:56
darkaura       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try06:56
darkaura       dmesg | tail  or so06:56
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keleusolof, press CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE and type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" - see if that helps. if not, startx06:56
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keleusdarkaura, your formatting it wrong or mounting the wrong drive06:56
PacketScandarkaura, you have to mount from /dev/sdc(partition number)  or use --bind to mount one folder somether else.  using the latter you drop the file type option.06:57
olofok thanks for tips will try now keleus06:57
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keleusI.. have to go to bed. im loosing my balance (sick or something)06:57
keleusg'night for the 50x time now :)06:57
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yell8w 9 keleus 06:58
darkaurathen I goto system administrator then disk  click on the usb mp3 player it shows the partition, but for filesystem it shows unformated06:58
darkauraI try to format and it stays unformated06:58
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PseudoPlaceboHi I'm installing dapper. The screen resolution is 800x600 I want it to be at least 1024x768. Also- I'm using dual-screen how hard is it to eventually set up dual screen on Ubuntu?06:59
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olofhey07:00
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olofi "kinda" got it to work07:00
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olofi changed session to gnome at login07:00
yell8w :) 07:00
olofatleast i have the menus and stuff now, but i guess if i change back to the other session it wont work07:00
olofdid that keleos dude go away?07:01
yell8w olof:  yes he did 07:01
olofdoh =(07:01
Madpilotubotu, tell PseudoPlacebo about fixres07:01
olofthink u r able to help instead?07:02
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yell8w olof:  i'm not sure but i'll try 07:02
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yell8w ? 07:03
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olofyeah, u know what happend, didnt u?= P07:04
dfgasanyone use vmware player07:04
holycowi do07:04
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olofwhen im logging in with standard session i get stuck at a terminal (but i have a mouse i can use)07:04
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railzwhat pkg do i need for mp3 playback in xmss/bmp?07:04
holycow!mp307:05
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:05
railzi'd search the forums, but man the new search is bad, is there anyway to access the old one?07:05
dfgasholycow, do you run xp in player at all?07:05
holycowrailz google is best07:05
holycowrailz, in google serach you can do 'search this stuff site:website.com'07:05
holycowdfgas, i run it in workstation and server not player but it shouldn't make and diff07:06
railzi know about restricted formats but does the w32codec pack provide mp3 playback as well? i thought that pkg was primarily video07:06
holycowrailz, no all of it07:06
railzk07:06
dfgasholycow, it deosn't dectect my sound card, just gives me a -1 in my vmx file07:06
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harrismHello everyone, I understand there are not many games for 64 bit users but does anyone know of a first person shooter I can play? I already have enemy territory but was looking for something single player?07:07
holycowdfgas, *hmm* i won't be able to help with that as vmware player doesn't seem to have vmware-configure.pl ... maybe one of their binary drivers is borking07:07
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dfgasi tried to install server but it says there is vmware stuff installed already07:08
yell8w olof: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg 07:08
railzok i just installed w32codec but bmp/xmms still refuse to play mp3s07:08
davinHi, is it true that I can reconfigure/rechoose the usplash by doing 'sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so' ? Just want to make sure before I invoke it07:08
railzi'm pretty sure there is an additional pkg for mp3 playback in non gstreamer apps07:08
davinraliz: try easyubuntu07:08
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railzi know of easyubuntu, and it's great that exists but instead of me running all that stuff it installs do you know the pkg needed for mp3s?07:09
yell8w olof:  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/nox 07:09
tritium!mp3 > railz07:09
harrismanyone? :/ how about rpg games?07:09
davinrailz: nope I just opened easyubuntu and only ticked mp3 support, you can write down the codecs it installs though07:10
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tritiumharrism: you should consider installing the 32-bit version for games.  You'll have fewer headaches.07:10
zachhaleanyone know a good commandline based torrent client for linux?07:11
harrismI know, I was thinking of doing that but had wishful thinking I guess07:11
holycowbittornado has that kind of interface i think07:11
dfgasholycow, any idea on that?07:11
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holycowdfgas, yeah delete your /etc/vmware folder07:12
dfgask07:12
holycowwhen vmwre server installs it checks for a file in there if its already installed07:12
holycowwhen you remove it that doesn't get purged07:12
holycow*welcome to proprietary software*07:12
davingonna try it out now07:12
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dfgasholycow, kickarse, thanks its installing now07:14
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PseudoPlaceboMadpilot: I tried everything in that FAQ, edited xorg.conf with new HorizSync and VertRefresh values.07:14
PseudoPlaceboAdded 1024x768 to the list.07:15
PseudoPlaceboRestarted X.07:15
PseudoPlaceboStill no go.07:15
MadpilotPseudoPlacebo, not sure what to suggest then - sorry07:15
holycowno prob07:15
PseudoPlacebo=\07:15
yell8w PseudoPlacebo: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ? 07:16
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wahjavahi07:18
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railzbefoer i leave, is there anyway to access the old search?07:18
railzthe new forum search is horrible07:18
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holycowrailz, just use google search wtih site:sitename.com07:18
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v1perif i want to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, should i change my sources.lst first?07:18
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wahjavaI'm running Ubuntu Dapper, with all my users are available from LDAP directory installed on the server and home directories NFS mounted from server07:18
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tritiumv1per: no07:19
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v1pertritium, i don't think it worked last time07:19
tritiumv1per: it doesn't use your sources.list file for any reason07:19
wahjavawhen any user logs in to the system, he'll get 'System->Administration' menu partially07:19
bronaugh*grumble*07:19
v1perah, nvm, that's the one w/ many prompts07:19
bronaughoh well, using onboard Via video.07:19
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bronaughon which glx is borked on ubuntu. whee!07:19
v1peri've tried almost everything... i still can't startx anymore (after the update)07:19
wahjavawhile when any user in /etc/passwd logs in, he'll get complete 'System->Administration' menu07:20
bronaughbut at least it doesn't crash when you touch it.07:20
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yell8w v1per:  error message ? 07:20
v1peryell8w, no screens07:20
wahjavahow do I make complete "Administration" menu available to all users ??07:20
Jesse1984i have been having crazy toruble trying to install ubuntu 6.06, but i have sorted it out!! i used the ultimate boot cd! its the best, i used the maxtor drive utility to 0 out the drive totally then restored a new MBR !! and im installing without a hitch! WOOT!07:21
yell8w v1per: what happens when you tried startx ? 07:21
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PseudoPlaceboyell8w: Just tried the dpkg-reconfigure still didn't work. =\07:21
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v1peryell8w, well i'm in windows now, but it would say that gdm wouldnt start, no screens error..07:21
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yell8w :| 07:22
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v1peryell8w, i'm in windows backing up lots of stuff =/07:22
PseudoPlaceboThis is super fucking frustrating.07:22
dfgasholycow, its asking for a sieral number? i tought i didn't need one, its free07:22
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v1peri bet PseudoPlacebo has the same prob as me07:22
PseudoPlaceboThe only option is resolution 640x48007:22
holycowdfgas, vmware server is free ... i do think you still need to get some sort of serial from them, i forget now been a while07:23
holycowregister and see07:23
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Roman_LogixHI... kinda a newbie to linux and ubuntu... does anyone know how to get better driver support for the ATI Radeon 7500 AGP (not mobile)... ATI doesnt support this card, they support the everything newer than this one:(07:24
yell8w v1per:  PseudoPlacebo : this is where I got it http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/nox  07:24
yell8w and http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html 07:25
yell8w i personally have not had problems with xorg so... 07:25
bronaughRoman_Logix: I have a Radeon 7000.07:25
bronaughRoman_Logix: same crap... generation 1 Radeon hw.07:25
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PseudoPlaceboyell8w: I've never had X problems before dapper.07:25
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bronaughRoman_Logix: here, I experience the joy of crashes within seconds.07:25
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bronaughRoman_Logix: are you also experiencing this joy?07:26
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v1peryell8w, nod, i did not have ubuntu-desktop07:26
v1peri did not have ubuntu-desktop when i made the update to edgy07:26
v1peralthough it was highly recommended that i did, lol07:26
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tritiumv1per: you should have had it07:26
Roman_Logixthe driver for the radeon 7500 agp wont support open gl, and I get weird lines through buttons in x... i think a new driver would help07:26
yell8w lol 07:26
v1perit's annoying as hell...screw it07:26
tritiumv1per: also, #ubuntu+1 for edgy questions07:26
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bronaughRoman_Logix: it does support GL.07:27
v1perubuntu-desktop contains ....idk... gnome*07:27
Ayabarais it possible to expand my root partition when I'm running ubuntu? it comes up as locked in gparted. I run an ubuntu vmware image, so I have to resize the partition when I'm logged in07:27
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bronaughRoman_Logix: so long as you have the "radeon" kernel module loaded to support DRI...07:27
v1perbut i guess i'm paying for my mistake now07:27
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holycowAyabara, no, use the live cd and make sure to backup before attempting07:27
bronaughRoman_Logix: and have dri and glx as Load lines in /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:27
holycowthat is use any live cd that has gparted, parted, qtparted tools07:28
v1perif only update-manager was written in gtk...07:28
yell8w PseudoPlacebo:   i'm not sure but in my system i can go straight system >> prefs  >>> resolution and all is there 07:28
Roman_Logixhow do I get it to use the radeon kernal? or what should I add to the xorg.conf to make it work?07:28
PseudoPlaceboyell8w: I'm used to that.07:28
PseudoPlaceboBut now it's not working the same way.07:28
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Ayabaraholycow, but can I use the livecd in vmware player?07:28
holycowv1per, whats wrong with the update manager now? it just paython with pygtk, how is it an issue?07:28
PseudoPlaceboI'm kind of angry with dapper tbh.07:28
yell8w :| well then i don't know what else to tell you ? 07:28
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holycowAyabara, you want to resize the partition of a guest os in vmware?07:29
holycow*cough*07:29
v1perholycow, are you referring to the package update-manager (verbatim)07:29
Roman_LogixIm sorry guys.. Ive been working with wintel stiff for sooooooooooooo long, its tough for me to addapt... the only reason im using this card is because it supports dual monitors and I got it for $20 from a friend07:29
holycowAyabara, that is something you haveto do from vmware but i've never tried it07:29
bronaughRoman_Logix: it's a nice card.07:29
holycowv1per, yes07:29
bronaughRoman_Logix: you can try a few options... swcursor may help.07:29
v1perholycow, someone told me it was gnome-based07:30
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holycowRoman_Logix, in linux land no one uses ati07:30
Ayabaraholycow, ok, I'll give it a try. thanks07:30
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holycowits a horrible company with a horrible history07:30
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v1perholycow, to run it, i would have to install ubuntu-desktop (aka 200+ mb of crap)07:30
holycowRoman_Logix, even on windows no one uses it for anything serious07:30
Roman_Logixwhat does swcursor do?07:31
yell8w holycow:  i'm running an ati rage 128 pro  07:31
holycowthose of us that have had to use ati stuff for say high end 3d animation dropped ati years and years ago07:31
yell8w :P 07:31
tritiumv1per: ubuntu-desktop is simply a meta-package.  Removing it doesn't remove any software.07:31
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holycowits just a crap company with crap products07:31
O2hello, I am O207:31
czer323All i want is a program to rearrange my music library to resemble the itunes structure.  /artist/album/track#-TrackName.  Can anyone make a suggest to a program that can do this?07:31
bronaughRoman_Logix: uses software to draw the cursor on screen instead of using dedicated hardware. it -can- fix some video problems.07:31
holycowv1per, okay  but what are you trying to do?07:31
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v1pernote: this is all in the past....07:31
holycowv1per, you have server installed i guess? no desktop environment? if so then you can just upgrade with apt07:31
v1perwhat i _did_ was filter my system out of a bunch of gnome applications07:32
O2I wonder, if i wanna do C++ programming in ubuntu, what should I do?07:32
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ghostshadow189oh , s1 help me pls . when my ubuntu boot it use taskbar of icewm . so i must change window manager to metalicy every time it boot ?07:32
bronaughO2: install gcc and some IDE?07:32
holycowamd now owns ati, so who knows, maybe things will get better07:32
tritiumO2: start by installing build-essential07:32
bronaugh(gcc in the "GNU Compiler Collection" sense)07:32
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Roman_LogixI know ati is crappy for linux, but Im tring to convert to linux... I deal with win2k3 server and winxp all day at work and am sick of it so Im tring to convert all my machines at home to linux... I still run win2k3 for all my server stuff at home, even my emac is running ubuntu now... I just cant fix this one problem....07:32
v1perholycow, and recently when i updated to edgy using apt (update-manager complained that i had no ubuntu-desktop), i ran into X errors07:32
O2bronaugh, does ubuntu has gcc in its iso?07:33
bronaughholycow: kind of hoping for it; but I have no idea whether it'll really happen.07:33
PseudoPlaceboMotherfucker.07:33
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bronaughO2: I think so, yes. but I don't know.07:33
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Roman_Logixhow do I ensure that I have the newest kernal for the 7500... just use the system update thing?07:33
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holycowRoman_Logix, yeah you don't have much choice but to either use vesa drivers or the ati open source drivers available via dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg :/07:33
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tritiumPseudoPlacebo: watch your language07:33
bronaughO2: yes.07:33
O2what ide is better?07:34
tritium!b-e > O207:34
Roman_Logixthanks holycow... I have a old matrox g450 pci card I guess I will throw in there instead07:34
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bronaughO2: don't ask me. I use emacs, but that's because I'm on crack.07:34
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holycowRoman_Logix, welcome to linux anyway, we are happy to answer whatever questions you have, there is not a lot we can do about p roprietary softwarwe/hardware tho07:34
v1peryes, one has to be on crack to use emacs07:34
holycowRoman_Logix, should work better07:34
bronaughO2: try a bunch; see what suits you.07:34
holycowRoman_Logix, if you are trying to setup dual monis, when you are ready gimme a shout i'll toss you my config file07:35
RRubinRoman_Logix: its a sad state, it almost seems sometimes as if the hardware people are attempting to make it difficult for peeps like you :/07:35
Roman_LogixI'm buying a condo and getting married so I am kind of limited to using my lunch money for my hardware now since the soon to be wifey is in charge ;)07:35
yell8w O2:  kate / scintilla 07:35
yell8w lol Roman_Logix 07:35
holycowRoman_Logix, :) hehe07:35
O2:(07:35
RRubinRoman_Logix: best you can really do is work around stuff and look into compatability b4 buying anything new07:35
ArrenLexRoman_Logix: What are you trying to get working?07:36
holycowwhat RRubin i know it sucks when you only have limited fund07:36
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RRubinwe have some new systems with ATI at work that X wont run on07:36
holycowbut what we all do is research first and then buy hardware ... its actually a healthy thing to do anyway07:36
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RRubinis there really an ideal video card to buy if you do research?07:36
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holycowRRubin, depends on what the research is07:37
RRubinnvidia is just as bad almost..07:37
O2what's the best IDE for C++ in ubuntu ?07:37
RRubinand it seems like those 2 are it most of the time07:37
holycowthere is a company making an open source vid card based on a reprogrammable gpu07:37
Roman_LogixI have the dual monitors working fine.. the config files are not that hard after fiddling with my emac for 2 months getting the video working, what kind of 4xagp card that does dual analog svga that has modern support for linux?07:37
holycowits going to be a bit expensive in first generatio nbut you will be able to reprogram the gpu it self07:37
ArrenLexRrubin: Nvidia may be proprietary, but it is infinitely better than ATI with respect to Linux.07:37
holycowso for certain kinds of research it will be an amazing product07:37
holycowRoman_Logix, pretty much any nvidia card07:38
ArrenLexRoman: what card are you trying to get working?07:38
bronaughATI is schizophrenic.07:38
RRubinArrenLex: yes. but still unacceptable in many ways (have nvidia in my laptop, and it makes linux mostly unusable :/)07:38
bronaughnVidia actually does know what they want, even if I don't agree with it.07:38
ArrenLexRRubin: unstable in what way? Using what driver?07:38
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holycowRRubin, how so?07:38
holycownvidia really has done a great job supporting us even if they are proprietary drivers07:38
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RRubinArrenLex, holycow: problems with backlight not powering on after closing the lid, refusing to swsuspend, etc07:39
v1perholycow, if i was going to make changes to my current setup (such as sudo aptitude update), should i change my sources from edgy back to dapper or something?07:39
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bronaughoh, and look at that. Via locked up.07:39
Roman_Logixany recommendations on nvidea cards that do 4x agp with dual analog heads? or anyone thats actually using it?07:39
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bronaugh2 video drivers down...07:39
holycowv1per, eh no, once you go edgy you never go back without a reinstall07:39
ArrenLexRRubin: with what driver?07:39
bronaughRoman_Logix: it doesn't matter if it has DVI.07:40
holycowRRubin, that has nothing to do with video drivers07:40
v1perholycow,  i think i managed to get halfway there lol07:40
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harisundHello! I have to compile a new kernel, but I don't have a fast enough machine ... Can I do the compilation on a faster machine and build it on the slower machine?07:40
RRubinArrenLex, holycow: basically the windows drivers check every 10 seconds that things are initted properly and reboot the video card if not. and the linux folk refuse to do that (nv driver) while the nvidia driver is broken with regard to swsuspend07:40
bronaughRoman_Logix: because DVI-I (which almost every card has) includes all the analog pins in addition to digital ones.07:40
holycowthats normal, most of that stuff is flaky as hardware companies don't really like working iwth us07:40
ArrenLexharisund: do you have access to a faster machine running Linux? If so, look into distcc07:40
ArrenLex!distcc07:40
ubotudistcc: Simple distributed compiler client and server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.18.3-3 (dapper), package size 138 kB, installed size 360 kB07:40
v1perok, i'll attempt a few things07:40
harisundArrenLex: ah .. ok will have a look .. thanks .07:40
Roman_Logixso most cards are dual head now that have both connectors?07:41
RRubinholycow: yes it does. the kernel module rejects the request to suspend.07:41
RRubinthere was a patch but it crashed on my system so i gave up07:41
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holycowRRubin, ah, then i'm mistaken07:41
Roman_Logixand one more stupid questions guys... anyone know what usb wifi nic works in a PPC ubuntu install?07:41
holycowallrighty07:41
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bronaughRoman_Logix: quite a few will. just make sure there's a native driver.07:41
RRubini need to try it again actually, i heard a rumor they fixed it07:41
dfgasholycow, are then any modules to load to get sound07:42
RRubinholycow: how expensive do you think that card you were talking about will be? more than a new nvidia or such?07:42
Roman_Logixi tried getting my lucent silver usb working with it, it detected something there, but not as a nic:(07:42
dfgasholycow, i hear something about oss07:42
CorpseFeederI just installed kino DV video editer from the package manager, but I can't find it on my computer. It's not in the applications menu anywhere and I don't know where to look for it. What is the easiest way to find where programs are installed to?07:43
holycowdfgas, your the vmware dude?07:43
dfgasyah07:43
holycowsearch vmware forums about that, hard to really support a closed source app07:43
holycownot sure why your xp doesn't have sound07:43
dfgasvmware server does it too07:44
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ArrenLexCorpseFeeder, after you install a package, use dpkg -L <packagename> to list the files in it.07:44
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myesterioushi07:45
ArrenLex!hi07:45
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!07:45
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Brydenn33my libfontconfig1 is BROKEN (installed). and so is my libfontconfig1-dev07:45
Brydenn33how do i fix it?07:45
azurealok wow...i think it fixed itself07:46
myesteriousWhy the Ubuntu often crash after installed several apps via "edgy" repository on Dapper ?07:46
Flannelmyesterious: because you're not supposed to do that07:46
azureal<aka v1per>07:46
holycowmyesterious, #ubuntu+107:46
holycow!edgy07:46
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule07:46
ArrenLexBrydenn33: Uh, try reinstalling the packages?07:47
Brydenn33ya i did07:47
Brydenn33says it cant07:47
azurealoh no! my pageplaylist addon is not compatible w/ bon echo =/07:47
CorpseFeederfanx. I got it.07:47
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salimhello guys..07:47
myesterioushey, But Ubuntu has managed the dependencies ?07:47
Roman_Logixok guys... thanks soooo much for all your assistance... I'm going to start going here more... hopefully in the future I'll answer more than I ask... I do have to say that atleast this channel isnt as bad as the ones I used to join back in the 90's, when IRC was the trailor park of the internet ;) Have a great night guys and thanks once again! Good night! -Roman_Logix07:47
azurealkidding07:47
yell8w night all 07:47
Brydenn33ArrenLex: says there was an error commiting changes.07:48
azurealnight yell8w07:48
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Brydenn33ArrenLex: any other ideas?07:48
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holycowRoman_Logix, the rules in this channel help us not get too much into the 'grumpy tech support dude' mode07:48
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holycowalthough its hard to avoid that after a while :)07:48
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O2I really want to know what is Emacs !07:49
O2who can tell me?07:49
dfgasholycow, do you use alsa?07:49
holycow!emacs07:49
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code07:49
RRubinO2: its a text editor07:49
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holycowdfgas, its default on edgy, therefore yes07:49
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O2oh, thanks, RRubin !!07:49
ghostshadow189hi all .i dont know why but so hard to understand . when my ubuntu boot , ituse icewm window manager (even my default session is gnome) , so i mustchange window manager to metacity everytime ubuntu boot . and it alsothe reason that it make the sound mute . i also try to uninstall icewm from snaptic but after that it makemetacity lose the border (i go to theme -> detail and just seecontrols and icons)07:49
dfgashmmm, not understanding here then07:49
RRubinO2: it, and vi are a special breed of editors for terminal mode that allow you to edit a lot without taking your hands off the home keys07:49
harisundArrenLex: you still around?07:50
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myesteriousthanks07:50
asdhi all, i have got a used dell optiplex with intel onboard grafic. Ubuntu is only running at a very low resolution and I cannot change it. is it possible to allocate more memory to the chip in the x11 config file?07:50
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krazykitodd.07:51
O2RRubin: what do you think the best IDE for C++ in ubuntu?07:51
ArrenLexharisund: yeah, what do you need?07:51
krazykitxine doesn't play some flac files that flac123 plays07:51
holycow02 kdevelop07:51
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harisundArrenLex: distcc is AWESOME! Didn't know I could use it for bootstrapping Gentoo itself! Thanks a ton .. I had never heard of it.07:51
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azurealbest editor ever is vi =)07:51
ArrenLexasd: if you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, it lets you determine how much memory to allocate.07:51
RRubinO2: i use vim07:51
harisundArrenLex: will definitely make my kernel compilation much faster..07:51
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Brydenn33fags07:51
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azureal!language07:52
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.07:52
RRubinO2: but its not exactly an IDE.07:52
ArrenLexharisund: glad I could help you. Chanced across it when I was looking for a blender render farm. I ended up writing my own with bash, but I filed distcc away as a Cool Thing(tm)07:52
holycowArrenLex, you wrote your own?07:52
holycowhehe07:52
harisund'blender render' farm? What's that?07:52
asdArrenLex:  I will try this, how many MB shoulr I use?07:52
holycowthere are tons of render managers out there for blender07:52
ArrenLexholycow: blender farm. Yes. In bash.07:52
harisundoh .. ok .. anyway.. I am familiar with mpi and all.. and distcc seems good.. I am going to give it a try now .. thanks again07:53
cschauerHey everyone, I have tried to install ubuntu on my computer But i'm recieving an error when it tries to load up that says that it failed to load teh graphical user interface, it's actually while I try to login07:53
ArrenLexholycow: I know, but none of them could combine Windows and Linux machines in a way that was easy for me to configure and understand.07:53
azureallot of gui failures w/ edgy =/07:53
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holycowwhat do you have the windows machines doing?07:53
ArrenLexasd: Hell if I know; I don't have an integrated card. I guess it depends on how much ram you have and all sorts of things.07:53
asdArrenLex: thank you, I will try.07:54
cschauerDoes anyone know what would cause that error?07:54
ArrenLexharisund: blender is a 3D animator\modeller. As you might imagine, the rendering of every single frame in a movie takes a while. So I wrote a program to make all computers in my network each render a part of the movie.07:54
ArrenLex!blender07:55
ubotublender is a free application for 3D modelling, animation, rendering, etc. You can install it from Ubuntu's repositories, and tutorials are at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro07:55
holycowArrenLex, got a gallery online?07:55
ArrenLexholycow: no; after setting it all up, I figured out that I can't actually... you know, MAKE anything decent. And I don't have any need or desire to use blender. I'm not the artistic type; I'm a writer.07:56
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holycowArrenLex, rofl!!!07:56
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ArrenLexholycow: so I followed some tutorials and was like, "ooh, aaah, this is faster." And then it fell into disuse.07:56
ArrenLexYes, yes.07:56
holycowi love that :)07:56
cschauerArrenLex do you know what would cause my ubuntu to fail to load the gui?07:57
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ArrenLexcschauer: uh, lots of things? Does it give you an error message?07:58
pwkhi07:58
ArrenLex!hi07:58
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!07:58
cschauerIt just says it failed to load the graphical user interface when it asks for a login and password07:58
O2holycow: I don't use KDE, I use GNOME07:58
pwki really want to install ubuntu07:58
ArrenLexcschauer: so it gives you the CLI rather than a display manager?07:58
holycowO2, makes no dif, you can run any app in any de07:59
Flannelpwk: you've come to the right place.  What problems you having?07:59
ArrenLexKDE is life.07:59
cschauerSorry, i'm a newb, CLI =?07:59
O2RRubin: you are stick to command line mode, :P07:59
cschauerIt's like a command prompt07:59
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Flannelcschauer: command line interface07:59
ArrenLexCommand Line Interface. Text prompt.07:59
pwki wish i knew what programs i could run instead of wnodws07:59
cschaueryes command line07:59
ArrenLexpwk: Linux is a program you can run instead of Windows.07:59
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holycowpwk, open up system / admin / synaptic08:00
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holycowa nice gui to let you install things from online repositories08:00
ArrenLexcschauer: log in from the command line. Then, run "startx". Pastebin whatever errors it gives you.08:00
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ArrenLexOr... tell us about them, I guess, since you can't paste. How are you talking to us?08:00
azurealstrange.. my x seemed to have fixed itself, but it still has bugs08:00
O2too many people here, if I leave for a while, I can't find my words...08:00
ArrenLexO2: it doesn't get any less than this =P08:01
cschauerhere one moment, i'll get my laptop08:01
cschauerand log on irc from there08:01
cschauerbrb08:01
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zoidbergguys i was wondering if there is a webcam chat program for UBUNTU08:03
zoidberg?08:03
foominerale: Still around?08:03
azurealaps webcam08:03
azureal(apt-cache search)08:03
zoidbergazureal: is it like netmeeting?08:03
azureali'm just telling you to search for it =P08:03
ArrenLexzoidberg: azeureal is just telling you to s... yes.08:03
anilomkarubotu, How to mount windows partitions08:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about How to mount windows partitions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:03
azurealaps is my alias for apt-cache search lol08:04
ArrenLexanilomkar: "mount" command, or put them in your /etc/fstab08:04
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bronaughok.. well, that's fun.08:04
bronaughI switched to my Radeon 9000 and crashes disappear.08:04
ArrenLexYay disappearing crashes.08:04
bronaughlikewise, though, there are no crashes on my Debian box with the Radeon 7000.08:04
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ArrenLexYay Debian.08:04
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bronaughso I have to conclude that the debian driver lacks a bug that the ubuntu driver has.08:05
patbamhi folks, is there a way to install python2.5 with synaptic?08:05
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holycow*ding* *ding* *ding* we have a winner08:05
holycow>_>08:05
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AbortDhow do i go about setting up dual monitors in ubuntu?08:05
azureali have a weird graphical bug --- every window looks nice and themed, with its title, but right above the top left corner there's a small tab-sized portion of the window's title!08:05
holycowpatbam, if its in repos sure, if not you need to find the packages or compile from scratch08:05
Flannel!tell AbortD about xinerama08:06
bronaughazureal: graphics bug :) yay.08:06
ArrenLexAzureal: can you give us a screenshot?08:06
bronaughAbortD: you should also look into MergedFB if your graphics driver supports it.08:06
azurealaye, one moment08:06
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bronaughAbortD: has more limitations wrt what arrangements of monitors you can have, but works better.08:06
AbortDmergedfb?08:06
azureal(forgot how to use scrot temporarily) =P08:06
patbamholycow: it doesn't show up when i search for python2.5 in syntaptic; does that mean it's not in the repos? ( i think that's the right spelling; python2.4 is there, for isntance)08:06
holycowcorrect08:06
Flannelpatbam: right, 2.5 isn;t in repos08:06
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cschauerk08:07
cschauerrunnin ubuntu again to see what it says08:07
AbortDbronaugh: can i msg u?08:07
Flannelpatbam: it was just released in september, of course it's not in dapper.08:07
bronaughAbortD: rather keep it in chan, but if you think it's really important, go ahead.08:07
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AbortDk08:07
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Geoffrey2I understand there's actually a way to make Flash 9 work natively with Ubuntu...has anyone tried it, and how well does it actually work?08:08
holycowGeoffrey2, well i don't know but i do know if you wait adobe has promised to release a native version08:08
patbamFlannel: i see, okay, thanks. i'll try to compile it08:08
Geoffrey2holycow, some time in 2007, at present08:08
ArrenLexGeoffrey2: Uh, no? o_O08:08
holycowindeed08:09
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azurealArrenLex, here's your screenshot -- http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2vmhxjs08:09
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ArrenLexGeoffrey2: there exists no native Flash Player for Linux > 7 ATM. There is a Flash Player 9 in development -- http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf08:09
pwkafter i fiinish my math homework i'll setup ubuntu if i can08:09
rellis[home] Anyone know how to add an entry to the menu that's displayed when you right click a file?08:09
azurealoh, another bug is that my terminal font has changed to something else08:09
ArrenLexGeoffrey2: You might be referring to CodeWeavers' Crossover Office, which lets you use windows plugins seamlessly in your Linux firefox. But this product costs money.08:09
pwki got vista/ xp dual boot now08:09
rellis[home] I want to add an option to "Encrypt file..." and have it execute a program.08:10
ChocoCidcodeweaver is crap08:10
ChocoCidthey have a 60 day beta of the next thing08:10
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ChocoCidi tried it out, read the license thing, and apparently all it is, is some shell-like thing that runs wine ;[08:10
DracoMorning all08:10
pwkso, will ubuntu still work?08:10
ArrenLexAzureal: I think that's just the theme you're using.08:10
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azurealArrenLex, nope08:10
ChocoCidstill haven't figured out how wine can be included in proprietary software like that when wine is GPL'ed08:10
Geoffrey2ok, I was in here a while back and was reading someone posting that there was some complex hack that would make Flash 9 (Windows version i suspect), run...but I never saw what the hack was...oh well, just have to wait, I guess08:10
ChocoCid!flash08:11
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:11
fooI followed this but the user cannot login .. any ideas? http://www.ffnn.nl/pages/articles/linux/setting-up-a-chroot-jail-for-cvs.php08:11
ChocoCidbleh08:11
ArrenLexChocoCid: codeweavers' office is basically wine, yes. But it has official support, some extra hacks, and the ability to run plugins.08:11
cschauerArrenLex XIO: Fatal IO error 104 ( Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining08:11
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cschauerFatal server error: no screens found08:11
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ChocoCidyeah, if i were going to pay, i'd get cedega before crossover08:11
ChocoCidi tried crossover beta thingy, it basically sucked :\08:11
ArrenLexcschauer: "no screens found" seems to indicate you're using the wrong driver for your card, or trying to use options your card does not support. Are you sure you're using the correct driver?08:12
DracoOk heres my problem and I hope someone can help, full installation with ver 6 and my network card does not work, bytes received but no bytes sent, I have reinstalled twice. If I boot up with live cd ver 6 network card works fine, any ideas ? I have also installed windows to test the card and that works fine. Please help :)08:12
ArrenLexDraco: what kind of card is this?08:12
cschauerIt did not give me an option, this is a fresh install and It hasn't brought me to any configurations to set or whatever08:12
ArrenLexcschauer: do you at least know what card you have?08:12
Dracoonboard card for MSI motherboard08:13
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Geoffrey2actually, I believe Flash 9 will run pretty well under plain wine.....I'm pretty sure I had it installed before Ubuntu melted down on me.....08:13
cschaueryes Radeon x1300 pro08:13
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ArrenLexGeoffrey: it'll run fine under Wine, but you're going to also have to run Windows Firefox under wine to use it.08:13
ArrenLexcschauer: okay, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and make sure to specify radeon driver.08:13
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azurealwhere does one change the title of a window?08:13
azureallet's say..in bash08:14
avagantWhere does one make the windows (firefox, konversation) transparent?08:14
ArrenLexAzureal: I don't think you can.08:14
RRubinazureal: if you want the title to reflect the current directory, theres some tricks in PS1 variable for that08:14
ArrenLexavagant: Are you looking for xgl\compiz, or simple compositing?08:14
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Geoffrey2and perhaps that was the hack they were referring to...some way to make Linux browsers recognize and work with the Windows version of Flash...supposedly it had been posted on the .swf blog...I just didn't have time at the time to go looking for it08:14
avagantsimple, i don't want to have to download another desktop environment i had plenty of trouble with that.08:15
RRubinazureal: otherwise, you can make a script that does it. its essentally echoing some escape charactors and the title and closing escape chars08:15
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ArrenLexGeoffrey: if you find it, please share. I'd love to read it.08:15
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ArrenLexGeoffrey: this is what codeweavers does, though. I highly doubt they would be able to sell their product if the same functionality was available for free.08:15
azurealRRubin, ah, ok... but general window titles would be a desktop problem?08:16
Dracono-suggestions on my problem ?08:16
ArrenLexavagant: what desktop environment are you running?08:16
avagantgnome.08:16
RRubinazureal: what happens is your printing magic codes that terminal emulators can choose to support.. and gnome-terminal does. so yeah. you can enable-disable support for that i think in the gnome-terminal configs08:16
Geoffrey2ArrenLex, codeweavers will make Windows Flash 9 work with the LINUX version of Firefox?08:16
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ArrenLexavagant: I can tell you how to enable compositing in X, but as for actually making windows transparent... you're going to have to google the gnome settings for that; I only know how it's done in KDE.08:16
ArrenLexGeoffrey: absolutely.08:16
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ArrenLexGeoffrey: It'll look like a regular plugin. Completely seamless.08:17
avagantArrenLex: That's stinky. I figured out how to change themes and such, and that's as far as I've gotten.08:17
Geoffrey2ArrenLex, interesting....well, if they're gonna charge for it, they'd better offer a lot more than plain wine does08:17
azurealisnt transparency a compiz/xgl thing?08:17
ArrenLexGeoffrey: support.08:17
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Geoffrey2ArrenLex, yep08:17
ArrenLexazureal: no; xgl\compiz goes far beyond simple transparency.08:18
avagantAnd I have to say, this whole sound thing feels like more I bit off more than I can chew.08:18
RRubinGeoffrey2: they did a lot of legwork as far as configuring it and testing it with various apps too08:18
azurealRRubin, ah, i'm just trying to figure out my graphical bug08:18
avagantI had sound, I lost it, I had it again, I lost it. Is this really worth it?08:18
DracoOk heres my problem and I hope someone can help, full installation with ver 6 and my network card does not work, bytes received but no bytes sent, I have reinstalled twice. If I boot up with live cd ver 6 network card works fine, any ideas ? I have also installed windows to test the card and that works fine.08:18
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avagantI just did my 6th install Draco, I know how you feel.08:19
RRubinavagant: unfortunately sound is an area thats not real strong in linux currently. theres many different standards and systems for doing it that conflict.08:19
Geoffrey2RRubin, I used it for a while before going back to plain wine...I can see they've done a lot of work to make certain programs work well with it, but several of the applications are stuck at rather obsolete versions08:19
azurealArrenLex, by simple, do you mean "fake"?08:19
avagantRRubin: I have to say, it's just incredibly unreal.08:19
ArrenLexazureal: no, I do not mean "fake". The transparency is real.08:19
charlie5hi08:19
Dracoavagant, first time problem for me normally installations run smoothly08:19
charlie5what adept packages would i need to get konqeror to load 'flash' pages ?08:19
RRubinavagant: you can get it to work reasonably enough by learning the different systems (esd, oss, etc) and understanding what is using what and configuring them etc08:19
ChocoCid!flash > charlie508:19
ArrenLexcharlie5: you need to install the flashplugin-nonfree package. Konqueror will find it.08:20
avagantThe whole alsa solution doesn't work for me, because say I'm running xmms and firefox at the same time with alsa, if I turn down the volume on one, they both go down.08:20
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cschaueralright, i did all the configuration changes, now what?08:20
holycowi would add that basically alsa is the open source standard and apps are starting to support it more and more08:20
holycoweventually the problem will dissapear transparently08:20
RRubinavagant: isnt there an xmms setting to use a local volume control or not?08:20
ArrenLexavagant: yes, they share the same configuration. You can solve this by going into the xmms options and setting "use software mixer".08:20
charlie5ChocoCid: thanks ... i will read the links08:20
avagantThere's a thing for that? I didn't think of that.08:20
Draco*bangs head in frustration*08:21
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charlie5ArrenLex: cheers ... i just added that one, but maybe i need to restart konqereor08:21
avagantIt's really annoying though unfortunetly, I'll just have xmms on esd and firefox with aoss and it seems to work fine together.08:21
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cschauerArrenLex, should I do Startx again after the configuration or?08:21
avagantAlso, xmms has some uglyyyyy icons.08:21
ArrenLexcharlie5: tools-settingns-configure konqueror - plugins - scan for new plugins. Make sure it's found.08:21
RRubinavagant: beep-media-player :)08:22
ArrenLexcschauer: of course, if you want to try starting X. =P08:22
avagantI wish there was an icon pack for all of my icons.08:22
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cschauerI'm getting the same error08:22
charlie5ArrenLex: thans very much :)08:22
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ArrenLexcharlie5: you're welcome.08:22
ArrenLexcschauer: what's the output of "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE"?08:23
azurealArrenLex, that's brilliant -- the sound thing about using software control =P08:23
ArrenLexOf course it's brilliant. It is my advice, and I am brilliant.08:23
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charlie5ArrenLex: yep, that did the trick :D ... cheers08:24
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avagantI got it to work though, esd for beep and alsa for firefox.08:24
avaganterr esd for xmms.08:24
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ArrenLexavagant: .....why?08:24
avagantI still gives me that "no soundcard" crap if I try to run them both.08:25
avagantactually i haven't tested that lately.08:25
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cschauerArrenLex the output is (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER then (EE) No devices detected08:25
ArrenLexThat's really odd. I had that problem like two years ago, before alsa was compiled with dmix support by default in the repos.08:25
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ArrenLexcschauer: I hate to doubt you, but are you sure you have the right card? Please post the output of "lspci" and also "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver"08:26
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avagantYah see the turning the sound down thing still happens.08:26
avagantI think I'll stick to esd for xmms.08:26
ArrenLexTurning sound down thing?08:26
ArrenLexYou do realise that esd is still using alsa in the end, right? x08:26
avagantturn down xmms sound, firefox sound goes too.08:26
ArrenLexD08:26
Jei61XI desperately need to get new drivers for my video card for a fresh install of ubuntu - is there some way to start in a safe-graphics mode, long enough for me to get download the new drivers?08:26
ArrenLexavagant: enable software mixer in XMMS.08:27
avagantIs that a plugin?08:27
ArrenLexJei61X: will command line suit you?08:27
ArrenLexavagant: no! It's part of the alsa conf options in XMMS.08:27
Dracois there a way to make a LiveCD with some network/proxy configuration ?08:27
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Jei61XArrenLex: won't help me if I need to download the stuff from a website08:27
avagantSee ya, now it says the "make sure you have a soundcard" crap.08:28
ArrenLexavagant: right-click on xmms, go preferences, change output plugin to ALSA, click configure, enable "use software volume control"08:28
cschauerVGA compatible controller : ATI technologies Inc  : Unknown device 714208:28
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noiesmo!easysource08:28
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic08:28
ArrenLexcschauer: that's your problem. Your sound card is not detected by the kernel. It's unsupported.08:28
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ArrenLexcschauer: unless you're running a really old kernel, I would say for at least a few months to a year, that machine ain't running any Linux.08:28
avagantIt says "make sure nothing else is blocking the soundcard"08:29
ArrenLexcschauer: is it a brand new video card?08:29
avagantbut I did all the tricks with dsnoop and dmix and such.08:29
Dracois there a way to make a LiveCD with some network/proxy configuration ?08:29
ArrenLexavagant: and you're running a recent system?08:29
cschauerwell It's a newer video card08:29
avagantUh well the computer is kinda old.08:29
cschauerthe version number on ubuntu is 5.1008:29
cschaueron the package08:29
avagantI have /.asoundrc and everything all configured.08:29
ArrenLexcschauer: firstly, upgrade to ubuntu dapper08:29
avagantI hate to tell you this but maybe I'd better stick to what I have before I pull my hair out.08:29
ArrenLexavagant: Okay, don't fix it if it ain't broken. xD08:30
ArrenLexcschauer: secondly, try the fglrx drivers from ATI.08:30
avagantLike I said before, I'm working on my 6th reinstall here.08:30
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ArrenLexcschauer: to do that, apt-cache search fglrx and install all which looks relevant.08:30
cschaueralright08:31
avagantAugggghhh08:31
avagantI have a via82xx onboard soundcard if that makes any difference.08:31
ArrenLexcschauer: "all which looks relevant" = linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` and xorg-driver-fglrx08:31
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avagantI heard I might as well just forget it with those.08:32
Jei61Xhm...08:32
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Jei61XIf I had the video drivers on a seperate disk, for instance08:32
shah02is tehre any way i can use gnome dictionary offline?08:32
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avagantI'm actually half considering finding a windows disc.08:33
Jei61Xhm08:33
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avagantYah I know.08:33
ArrenLexJei61X: what are you talking about? xD08:33
Jei61XOK, how do I start Ubuntu with just the CLI?08:33
ArrenLexavagant: what problem are you having, exactly?08:33
avagantYou don't understand how frustrating this has been.08:33
avagantEverything! Haha08:33
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rufflesthis channel never sleeps lol08:34
ArrenLexJei61X: if it can't boot the GUI, it'll fall back automatically. Alternatively, select "recovery mode" from the grub menu.08:34
Jei61XThere are instructions on Nvidia's website for doing a CLI install08:34
avagantActually that's really odd, gaim sounds played at the same time as firefox...hmmm.08:34
Jei61Xoh, it's booting the GUI - just distorted all to hell08:34
ArrenLexJei61X: the nvidia drivers are available from the ubuntu repos. Recommend you use those.08:34
ArrenLexJei61X: then use the recovery mode option.08:34
Jei61XElvis Naked Monkeys!08:34
ArrenLexJei61X: does it work with the "nv" drivers?08:34
Jei61XWhere do I find those?08:34
ArrenLex....yes. Elvis Naked Monkeys indeed. o_o08:35
Jei61X"nv" drivers?08:35
ArrenLexJei61X: "nv" is the open-source driver for nvidia cards which does not support 3D acceleration. Will it at least get you booted?08:35
Jei61XNo idea, haven't tried it, booted from the LiveCD just now08:35
avagantMaybe it's just xmms.08:35
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ArrenLexJei61X: I suggest you install it before you go troubleshooting.08:36
ArrenLexavagant: can you be more explicit with your "Everything! Haha" comment? It's hard to troubleshoot, you know, "Everything".08:36
ArrenLexAll at once, that is.08:36
avagantHaha.08:36
Jei61XBetter question: where do I find the ubuntu repos?08:36
ArrenLexThe dependencies are quite horiffic.08:36
avagantArrenLex: Alright for starters, sound.08:36
ArrenLexJei61X: they're... there. o_o when you use apt-get or synaptic, you're using the ubuntu package repositories.08:37
ArrenLexavagant: what about sound doesn't work?08:37
avagantArrenLex: Well I still can't play more than one thing at a time in Alsa.08:37
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avagantArrenLex: Even though I have everything configured as such to do so.08:37
ArrenLexavagant: is your alsa up to date? Have you hacked the config files to hell?08:37
avagantHow do I check if it's up to date?08:37
Jei61XOK, let me try actually booting from the system, might not have this issue...08:37
Normalwhen trying to upgrade to edgy, I get this:"Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found"..08:37
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ArrenLexavagant: mine played multiple sounds without touching the configs. Maybe you've actually DISABLED that feature?08:38
avagantI don't think I did.08:38
ArrenLexNormal: use a different mirror.08:38
NormalHow do I go about doing that?08:38
avagantArrenLex: How do I find out which version of Alsa I have, I got it from the repos.08:38
ArrenLexNormal: in /etc/apt/sources.list, replace "archive.canonical.com" with "archive.ubuntu.com", for example.08:38
ArrenLexavagant: will anything upgrade if you apt-get update && apt-get upgrade?08:39
NormalOkay, I'll try it08:39
avagantLet me try real quick.08:39
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avagantIt just asked me for root even though I put in sudo....hmm.08:40
ArrenLexYour system is weird, man. o_O08:40
avagantYou're telling me!08:40
ArrenLexKeep in mind that sudo won't carry over &&.08:40
NormalFailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 195.248.90.23 80] 08:41
ArrenLexYou need to do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade08:41
avagantIt just asks me if I want to install linux image and something else.08:41
Admiral_Chicagoavagant: i think the command is man alsa --verison08:41
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Admiral_Chicago*version08:41
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avagantno sir, didn't work. :(08:41
ArrenLexNormal: try this line: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main multiverse universe restricted08:41
ArrenLexNormal: try this line: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main multiverse universe restricted08:41
ArrenLexSorry, second one.08:41
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dfgashow do i fix?08:42
dfgasErrors were encountered while processing:08:42
dfgas vmware-player08:42
dfgasE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)08:42
dfgasA package failed to install.  Trying to recover:08:42
dfgasthen it quits08:42
Admiral_Chicago!paste > dfgas08:42
avagantThere's no man page on alsa either.08:42
dfgask, but how do i fix?08:43
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ArrenLexdfgas: that's all the errors it gives you?08:43
Jei61XWell, I feel foolish08:43
dfgaspretty much08:43
Jei61XNoi troubles with the video drivers at all08:43
Admiral_Chicagoavagant: info alsa --version08:44
ArrenLexdfgas: what if you install the package manually? Go to /var/cache/apt/archives and run sudo dpkg -i vmware-player*.deb08:44
NormalArrenLex: I think that did it, thank you!08:44
Jei61XMy next mining expidition will be the default root password, though08:44
ArrenLexThere is no info alsa.08:44
avagant4.808:44
ArrenLexNormal: I forget what I helped you with, but you're welcome! :D08:44
ArrenLex...or maybe there is.08:44
dfgashttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26045/08:44
ArrenLexNo, no there isn't. That's info's version.08:44
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Jei61XAny thoughts?08:44
ArrenLexJei: what's the problem again?08:45
avagantoh snap08:45
Jei61XThis time - the default for the root password08:45
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Jei61X*headdesk*08:45
ArrenLexdfgas: assuming you're installing the package as root, try "sudo mkdir /etc/vmware/"08:45
Jei61XOh.08:45
ArrenLexAnd try installing it again.08:45
ArrenLexJei61X: There is no root in ubuntu by default.08:46
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lupine_85mcphail: any real reason for el pings?08:46
ArrenLex...and bye?08:46
ArrenLex...and hi.08:46
noiesmo!firestarter08:46
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)08:46
Jei61Xwrong button, sorry ><08:46
dfgasArrenLex, how bout removing?08:46
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avagantwhat version of alsa is everyone else on?08:46
Admiral_Chicago4.808:47
ArrenLexdfgas: if you want to remove the package, try going to /var/cache/apt/archives and issuing sudo dpkg --purge vmware-player*.deb08:47
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Jei61XI feel foolish once again :-)08:47
ArrenLexdfgas: I have no idea why I just said that.08:47
ArrenLexdfgas: from anywhere, issue apt-get remove --purge vmware-player08:47
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ArrenLexdfgas: ignore previous idiotic instructions.08:48
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Jei61XMy account already has full access to everything - duhhhhh08:48
fyrestrtr!vmware08:48
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare08:48
fyrestrtrread that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^08:48
ArrenLexJei61X: no it doesn't. You have to use sudo. If your account DOES have full access, that's very dangerous.08:48
lupine_85"can be" very dangerous ;)08:49
Jei61XWell, I have to use a password for the high-level system stuff, of course08:49
ArrenLexYeah.08:49
Jei61XI'm still a-quiver over this computer not rebooting 4 or 5 times just from being on08:49
Jei61XI'm not at all sure why, but too much processing power seems to make Windows fill its diaper rather quickly08:50
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ArrenLexYou guys are more interesting than the 1818 edition of Frankenstein.08:51
ArrenLexJust observing, since that's what I'm taking a break from by being here.08:51
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ArrenLexJei: never heard of a machine which was too FAST for windows to handle. Where did you acquire this amazing creature?08:52
Jei61XGamePC.com08:52
ArrenLexAnd how fast?08:52
Jei61Xtwin Intel Xeons - 2.33 GHz each08:52
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ArrenLexFancy.08:52
Jei61XWell, since I had the dough, I figured - why not get the most processing power I could conceive of?08:53
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ArrenLex'cause you don't need it! :D08:54
ArrenLexPlease tell me you're at least running folding@home on it and thereby contributing to society.08:54
Jei61X*blink*blink*08:54
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ArrenLexSo, has everyone else named their PCs also, or am I just weird?08:55
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harrismeven though I have 64 bit amd I can install ubuntu 32 bit right? I'm sick of not finding any games08:55
Jei61XI certainly did \08:56
ArrenLexharrism: of course you can.08:56
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harrismgreat, so I can then install packages for i386?08:56
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ArrenLexharrism: I don't know if you can just magically change architectures. I've never done it. I just know that it's POSSIBLE to run a 32-bit ubuntu on a 64-bit system, as Sam is 64-bit but this system sure isn't.08:57
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Jei61Xoh, that's what folding@home is LOL08:58
Jei61Xcousin of SETI@home08:58
ArrenLex....yyeah.08:58
ArrenLexExcept SETI@home is a total waste of cycles.08:59
Admiral_Chicagoseriously08:59
Admiral_Chicagoi'm working on my own proteing project08:59
Admiral_Chicagoit's insame09:00
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Jei61XIt is, at that09:01
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Jei61XNow, what in creation is "ld"?09:01
ArrenLexman ld09:01
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Dracois there a way to make a LiveCD with some network/proxy configuration ?09:01
ArrenLexIt's a library linker.09:01
ArrenLexI don't think you need ld unless you're compiling.09:02
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Jei61Xaha09:02
Jei61Xwhich it seems I am09:02
Jei61Xthe driver update uses ld09:02
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Dracogod i hate being ignored when i ask a question09:04
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Jei61XAlright, BBL09:05
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rellis[home] Draco: Then IRCp robably isn't a good choice of places ot hang out.09:05
patbamis dpkg compatible with apt-get?09:05
KenSentMepatbam: yes09:06
Dracorellis[home] , well it is supposed to be a support channel09:06
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KenSentMeDraco: but you can't expect that people who know an answer to your question are online when you ask you question09:07
MadpilotDraco, no response generally means nobody knows an answer for you. You don't except 839 people to say "I don't know" to you, do you?09:07
DracoKenSentMe, relatively simple question id figure and there are over 800 people on, ive asked three questions with no response09:07
patbami have some advice that says to install a tarball (python2.5, in my case), i should use checkinstall to create a .deb from my tarball, and then dpkg to install that09:08
DracoMadpilot, well at least that would be a response09:08
MadpilotDraco, no, 839 "I don't know"s would be spam09:08
ArrenLexDraco, your issue can be summed up by ubotu in one short factoid:09:08
ArrenLex!repeat09:08
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience09:08
harisundDraco: first, even though there are around 800 people, not all are necessarily online and next to the keyboard at this instance.09:08
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harisundpatbam: yes. You should create a .deb file and use dpkg .. then you can use apt to remove it. But what package are you installing from a source? (tarball?) and why?09:09
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aaronMy laptop only has Ubuntu on it now, whats the least painful way to add a windows partition running Windowsxp09:09
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aarondoes anyone have advice or links09:10
ArrenLexaaron: all ways will be painful because you will have to contrive to re-install grub.09:10
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patbamharisund: python2.5, because it's not available in the repos yet09:10
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harisundpatbam: ah ok. Either way, prefix a 'checkinstall' to your final command in the installation sequence... you should have a nice .deb package (after answering a couple of questions of course009:11
Dracook heres a question, i am trying to copy a cd with K3b it copies a cd then halts with error unable to eject cd, I have seen an update or configuration change somewhere relating to ejecting cd's (i also cant eject cd by pressing the button)09:11
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cyberdreamHello there, i need to print from Ubuntu LTS to a Canon 1120 printer which is a network printer on windows2003 server, any idea ??09:12
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patbamharisund: i just used synapitc to install checkinstall; the post i found int he forum says: "To do that, you have to replace the  "make install" step with "check install" if you have the checkinstall package installed. " is that what you mean?09:12
ArrenLexcyberdream: what problems are you having?09:12
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harisundpatbam: hmmm not sure. I normally replace "make install" with "checkinstall make install"09:12
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Dracosigh, no response09:13
patbamharisund: i should read teh checkinstall man page :)09:13
patbamthanks09:13
harisundpatbam: oh ok. Just checked up some documentation. Apparently checkinstall does a make install by default.09:13
mineralefoo: kinda09:13
harisundSo you can simply do "sudo checkinstall" .. and it will work.09:13
SqueeHow do I make Ubuntu go into a text login by default?09:13
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harisundSquee: you disable gdm from starting up. 'sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove'09:14
avagantWhat version of alsa is everyone else on? Just so I know.09:14
ArrenLexSquee: uninstall the display manager. apt-get remove gdm09:14
ArrenLexor kdm or xdm depending on what you have.09:14
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SqueeUm... What if i want to go back to gdm later?  Do i have to keep uninstalling GDM and reinstalling it?09:14
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AsymmetryArrenLex, removing GDM is kind of permanent.09:15
AsymmetryOr, drastic.09:15
ArrenLexAsymmetry: isn't that what he wants?09:15
patbamharisund: ah, i see. since checkinstall is in the repos it's probably got the defaults configured correctly... famous last words ;)09:15
AsymmetrySquee, removing GDM from the startup set is a better idea. Go with harisund's idea.09:15
ArrenLexSquee: do you want to boot to Linux in text mode ONCE?09:15
ArrenLexBecause if so, just select "recovery mode" from grub.09:15
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cyberdreamcan any one help me in printing from Ubuntu ????09:15
harisundSquee: GDm is what gives you a graphic screen. If you stop gdm from running, you still have gdm installed on your hard disk (which means you can set it to start on boot up again later). If you remove gdm, you will have to manually install it again if you want it to appear on startup again.09:16
SqueeArrenLex:  I'm running a lan server, and I dont need X running through any of it so i want it disabled to save ram.  But when Its over the computer will be for mythtv09:16
ArrenLexcyberdream: what problem?09:16
cyberdreamArrenLex: Hello there, i need to print from Ubuntu LTS to a Canon 1120 printer which is a network printer on windows2003 server, any idea ??09:16
aaronDoes anyone know if there is a "Howto" page if you want to add a WinXP boot to Ubuntu system09:16
ArrenLexSquee: feel free to uninstall or disable gdm.09:16
ArrenLexcyberdream: any idea about WHAT?09:16
cyberdreamany idea how to add this printer ??09:16
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ArrenLexHow to add this printer to cups? You will have to define it as a samba printer.09:17
SqueeSo if i take off gdm i can still 'startx' and it will work fine?09:17
KenSentMecyberdream: you need to tell us what you've tried, what errors did you get etc.09:17
harisundSquee: that will work as well.09:17
ArrenLexSquee: yes.09:17
Squeeok cool thanks09:17
cyberdreamKenSentMe: till now, i tried adding it from the GUI Gnome printer wizard. but didnt work09:17
harisundDraco: bad luck eh? I can sort of understand the frustration going through your mind at being ignored.. just happens... perhaps now is a bad time for your questions :)09:17
ArrenLexDraco: try googling or the forums.09:18
harisundArrenLex: you are using Gaim? Do you know of any way to disable the "nick has joined" "nick has parted" "nick has quit" messages in Gaim IRC?09:18
Dracoharisund, no such thing as a bad time when u urgently need a solution :) im on ubuntuforums atm looking about, frustrating though because the no-eject is a common thing on all my ubuntu installations09:19
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O2Hello, every one!09:19
O2I am O209:19
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ArrenLexharisund: nope, don't know of one. Google?09:20
O2I want to do C++ programming in ubuntu, I know I need gcc or else?09:20
ArrenLexHello, O2. I am the Lord Jesus Christ.09:20
harisundArrenLex: nah .. I have tried.. no luck.09:20
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harisundArrenLex: lol ... O2 you will need the g++ compiler. Best way would be to install a package called 'build-essential' using the package manager of your choice..09:20
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O2oh, g++09:20
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O2I apt-cache search gcc, g++.      and found many results, I wonder which should I get?09:21
harisundO2: you will probably also need make (if you know what it is, good. else ignore it). Either way, it helps to install teh build-essential package since it also installs all standard development related packages nad libraries.09:21
kalmhello all, How do i change the permissions of files from console 0_0 so that they are user readable and fully editable?09:21
ArrenLexO2: install build-essential. That'll get everything.09:21
melonok - i sort of already know the answer.. but figured i should ask anyway.. is it possible to run Gnome and KDE side by side and have the ability to switch from one to the other?09:21
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harisundO2: apt-get install build-essential09:21
kalmi understand theres something to do with chmod09:21
O2Jesus ArrenLex, you are god!09:21
kalmbut i dont know the commands09:22
ArrenLexYes! :D09:22
harisundmelon: you can indeed..09:22
ArrenLexExcept it was suggested by someone else first. =P09:22
melonu can?09:22
melonnifty09:22
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tonyyarussokalm: 'man chmod', although depending on the file you may not want to do that, and in those cases use sudo.09:22
O2oh, thanks!09:22
kalmok09:22
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kalmthank you09:22
harisundkalm: do you own the file? And who all do you want it to be read by?09:22
meloni'm not one to get these things handed to me.. so i can just google this 'n find what i need yeah?09:22
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harisundmelon: KDE and Gnome can happily co-exist, and even run applications written for each other!09:23
kalmyes i own the file... its just i put the files on my home directory as root and theyre not accesible by me09:23
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harisundkalm: then you need root permissions to modify it (sudo). You could do 'sudo chown kalm:kalm file_name" to make it your file again.09:24
ArrenLexharisund: I think (s)he's looking for the equivalent of "fast user switching" on Linux for DEs. Does this exist?09:24
kalmok09:24
kalmthank you09:24
melonpretty much what i mean ArrenLex09:24
melonalthough - i'm beginning to think it's just unnecessary09:24
harisundArrenLex: oh good point ... now that's a thought ... I only know of logging off and logging on .. perhaps you could run a Gnome session on vt7 and a KDE session on vt8 ... but I doubt that would be a very good idea..09:24
harisundmelon: yeah .. it is .. you could pick a single window manager/desktop environment.. and customize it to suit your needs.. and then run all kinds of apps in it.09:25
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melonyep - i honestly thought programs for KDE would only run in KDE and the same with Gnome09:26
melon<-- still very new at this09:26
melonbut - you've already given me more than enough assistance09:26
melonthanks muchly :)09:26
harisundmelon: programs for KDE need some libraries to display it. If you have those libraries installed, you can display them ..09:26
ArrenLexNo, silly; programs for KDE use the QT toolkit, as does KDE itself. As long as you have the qt libraries installed, they'll run.09:26
Flannelmelon: well, technically theyre not for either.  they just use KDEs graphic library, or gnomes (qt or gtk, respectively)09:26
ArrenLexAnd the same with gnome -- GTK.09:26
harisundpretty much what ArrenLex said. I didn't mention qt :)09:26
melonok09:26
ArrenLexQT is life.09:26
melonwell.. i'm learning..09:27
harisundIs QT GPLed now? (offtopic I know.. just curious)09:27
ArrenLexOf course. It's been GPLed for a very long time.09:27
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harisundoh.. ok.. but I thought there some controversies with the QT toolkit (or was it for using on Windows?) and so the Gnome project was started to have a pure open source display library?09:28
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ArrenLexAnyone else find it interesting that GTK is the "GIMP Tool Kit", which is the "GNU Image Manipulation Program Tool Kit", which is the "GNU'S Not Unix Image Maniuplation Program Tool Kit"?09:28
DarkMageZArrenLex, no, QT has not been gpled... it's gpl compatible09:28
ArrenLexSo much meaning in so few letters..09:28
harisundDarkMageZ: ah ... ok .. cool.09:28
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harisundArrenLex: after all that, it's still recursive :D09:28
Flannelguys, take these conversation seeds to -offtopic ;)09:28
ArrenLexDarkMageZ: Lies! Hearken Wikipedia:09:28
ArrenLexLicense: GPL, Proprietary, QPL09:29
O2hurisund: thanks, I will try build-essential09:29
harisundO2 yes, it pretty much installs everything you will need.09:29
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O2in fact, what do i need? could you list them?09:30
harisundO2: in case you need additional libraries, they will be named in the form lib<name><version>-<more info> .. such as libgtk2.0-dev and so on..09:30
melonthanks again people.. :)09:30
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harisundO2 what sort of C++ programming are you intending to do?09:30
DarkMageZArrenLex, ah, k, they fixed the licencing in 2.2. but prior to that there were issues with the licence :P it wasn't gpl09:30
O2I want to know basic programming, not in gnome or kde09:31
ArrenLexDarkMageZ: yes, at first, QT wasn't gpl. But that's not been the case for a very long time.09:31
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O2in command line mode09:31
Ademani installed the libboost-doc package for ubuntu how do i get at those docs?09:31
harisundO2 then build-essential will be more than what you need.09:31
Ademan(devhelp doesnt see them)09:31
Squeeman libboost?09:31
Ademanthey're html files09:31
Ademanor thats what the package says09:31
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O2then what do i need then? have a list?09:31
pihi to everybody09:32
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ArrenLexAdeman: use the command "dpkg -L libboost-doc" to see all the files that the package installed. Then you can just view them.09:32
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ArrenLexLike with a browser.09:32
ArrenLex!hi09:32
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!09:32
piI'm looking for activate XDMCP on my dapper09:32
ArrenLexYay acronyms.09:32
Flannelpi: it's in the login screen setup09:32
AdemanArrenLex: yuck, i shouldn't hafta do that... but whatever... devhelp can't view straight html can it?09:32
piI must do: /etc/init.d/inetd restart09:32
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harisundFlannel: is it still in teh login screen setup? The last time I checked it was in there.. and somebody here told me it was not there in the Dapper gdm-setup09:33
pibut the system tell me :command not found09:33
avagantArrenLex: I just found out that my ./asoundrc was set to "default" and not my soundcard.09:33
harisundpi I don't think you need to?09:33
piany idea?09:33
ArrenLexAdeman: I have no idea what devhelp is and what it can or cannot do. I'm suggesting a way for you to view these packages at all. If it doesn't suit you, please feel free to google.09:33
Flannelharisund: it is.  gdm setup is login screen setup09:33
harisundpi: you just need to restart gdm. Not inetd09:33
piok09:33
ArrenLexavagant: AHA! I told you that you messed your configs up.09:33
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pii try09:33
patbamharisund:  still around? sudo checkinstall seems to have failed me... well actually, it seems to ahve owrked, but the installation itself failed with a complaint of missing Tcl/Tk libs and "... _struct.so: no such file or directory"09:33
avagantArrenLex: Well the sound worked before, but maybe this will help or something.09:33
Ademanby the way, there's no event or signal that gets sent out when certain bash commands are issued is there? (that you could trap and use)09:34
harisundpatbam: ok . ... in that case, we need to ensure you have the necessary library to compile and install python-2.5 in the first place.09:34
ArrenLexGood luck.09:34
ArrenLexI have to go. Hope I could help someone! Nice chatting with you all.09:34
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avagantIsn't there suppose to be some kinda "dsnoop" thing in my asoundrc file?09:34
O2harisund: I only want to program the Console09:34
harisundO2: yes, build-essential will get you everything you need.09:34
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Ademanpatbam: is the tcl8.4 package installed?09:35
patbamAdeman: checking09:35
harisundO2: if you have even a semi decent dial up, downloading build-essential won't be a big deal. Just execute 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' and in a while you will have everything you need to have to start g++ ..09:35
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O2but i know it more than I need...09:35
avagantIronically the sound works now on both with alsa. Haha09:36
O2in fact, I want to know exactly what I need for that09:36
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patbamAdeman: no, should i go ahead and install it?09:36
harisundpatbam: here's a suggestion. I think if you do something like apt-get build-dep python it might help09:36
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Ademani'd say its a good bet09:36
Ademanharisund: checkinstall is python?09:37
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harisundAdeman: I don't know. Why?09:37
ScreaminIkehow do i change my windows networking workgroup? by default, it's "workgroup" but i want it to be "lan"...09:37
harisundScreaminIke: in ubuntu using Samba you mean?09:37
Ademanthen why would installing the python package help? (except of course it DOES depend on tcl...)09:37
harisundScreaminIke: edit the required line in /etc/samba/smb.conf09:37
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harisundAdeman: no no... apt-get build-dep python installs all the necessary packages to compile python 2.4.09:37
FlannelO2: you need 90% of build-essential, the only thing you won't need is dpkg-dev, but you might as well just grab the whole thing.  that last package is 159kb09:38
Dracohooray, I found at least one solution so far, so for anyone thats having the annoying problem of eject button not working: sudo sysctl dev.cdrom.lock=0 and to make it permanent sudo sh -c 'echo "dev.cdrom.lock=0" >> /etc/sysctl.conf' (i haven rebooted to test the permanent part but eject now works)09:38
ScreaminIkethx, harisund09:38
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Ademanharisund: you're right, i thought you said apt-get install, i always assume install lol09:38
Ademanbut still, why would that be desirable?09:38
harisundAdeman: this- Right now, tcl is missing, so you install that. Then you try again, and this time something else is missing. You then install that.09:38
ivxhey what ftp software do you guys use?09:39
patbamsearching for "build-dep" in synaptic didn't trun up anything09:39
harisundAdeman: but if you execute the build-dep everything you need to compile and build python2.4 from source is pulled. In most cases, python2.5 (the one that patbam wants) will have the same requirements.09:39
harisundpatbam: build-dep is not a package.09:39
KenSentMeivx: nautilus09:39
Flannelpatbam: build-dep isn't a package, it's an argument09:39
patbamah i see09:39
patbamno wonder it didn't show up in synaptic :)09:39
harisundpatbam: either way, install your tcl package and try the checkinstall again09:40
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patbamokay :)09:40
Ademanharisund: wait i just thought he was trying to get checkinstall... or was that so that he could get the latest version of python?09:40
ivxkensentme i mean for your server side09:40
harisundAdeman: he wants to use checkinstall to install the latest python2.509:40
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KenSentMeivx: proftpd then09:40
harisundAdeman: so that he gets a .deb file that integrates nicely with the package management system.09:40
Ademanharisund: OOOHHHHHHHH, it all makes sense now09:40
Ademanyeah i know checkinstall well09:40
Ademanbetter than installing from source09:40
ivxkensentme: is that a real populare gpl one?09:41
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patbamugh, i was mistaken before; tcl8.4 *IS* installed09:41
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KenSentMeivx: well, i think it's pretty popular. I used this tutorial to install it: http://howtoforge.com/proftpd_mysql_virtual_hosting09:41
O2thanks Flannel09:42
Ademanpatbam: well harisundis right, i misunderstood your goal09:42
patbamAdeman: so i should go ahead and try "apt-get build-dep python" ?09:42
patbamAdeman: er,  "sudo apt-get build-dep python" ?09:42
harisundpatbam: I am trying it out. Give me a mintue (or go ahead adn try it)..09:42
Ademanyou probably need tcl8.4-dev anyways, but i agree with harishund now09:42
Ademanyes09:42
patbamharisund: okay, thanks a lot09:42
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patbamAdeman:  well i could just go ahead and install the dev thing, huh? probably wouldn't cause any problem09:43
harisundpatbam: can you give me the URL from where you downloaded python2.5? I will try installing it on my machne now.09:43
ivxkensentme yeah that was the last question. thanks man09:43
patbamharisund: http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.5/Python-2.5.tar.bz209:43
KenSentMeivx: no problem09:43
harisundpatbam: ok .. let me also try simultaneously..09:43
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harisundno reason why I shouldn't have 2.5 on my system ;)09:44
deadly_venomWhen is Ubuntu Edgy Eft coming out ?09:44
KenSentMedeadly_venom: end of this month09:44
Ademanpatbam: true, but it could be depending on A LOT more than just tcl8.4-dev, what harishund described will install everything you need, which is a good plan09:44
patbamharisund: i'm dying to try out the native sqlite :)09:44
Ademanthe 26th i believe09:44
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KenSentMe!edgy > deadly_venom09:44
patbamAdeman: okay, thanks09:44
Ademan!edgy09:44
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule09:44
harisundpatbam: is that a 2.5 feature? (not much of a programmer myself)09:44
patbamharisund: yeah09:45
Ademan!schedule09:45
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patbamharisund: there are a bunch of cool modules in 2.509:45
Ademanindeed it's october 26th09:45
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harisundpatbam: I see. Ok (running ./configure now)09:45
Ademancan AIGLX run on vesa drivers?09:46
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harisundpatbam: I like the output of ./configure. If I let it runnign on my laptop for some big application, it increases my geek factor massively in college :)09:46
deadly_venom!xfree8609:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xfree86 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:46
deadly_venom!xfree09:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:46
djuuss!xorg09:46
harisunddeadly_venom: what are you saerching for?09:46
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:46
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djuussHey about Xorg09:47
harisund!info xfree8609:47
deadly_venomxfree86 supports what kind of video card?09:47
ubotuPackage xfree86 does not exist in any distro I know09:47
patbamharisund: let me know if ./configure gets you any dates hehe09:47
djuussis it possible to put custom brightness/gamma/contrast values anywhere?09:47
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deadly_venomxfree86 supports what kind of video card? any in particular ?09:47
deadly_venomxfree86 supports what kind of video card? any in particular ?09:47
Ademandeadly_venom: quit spamming09:47
gzevsperoHi, I'm trying to change the size of an existing partition on my HD so I can use the freed up space to create a new partition, trying to do this using gparted, but all my existing partitions are locked - how can I remove the lock so I can repartition the drive?\09:47
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deadly_venomDamN KeyboarD :(09:47
djuussdeadly_venom, all of them,  YMMV, if your on your way to the graphics card shop, pick up an nvidia card for best results.09:48
Ademandeadly_venom: don't even use XFree86, Xorg is far better (basically all of the XFree86 people)09:48
harisundpatbam: I am running make now. Anyhow, I would have expected python 2.5 to be able to get compiled by python 2.4 and not g++ .. but oh well :)09:48
patbamcompile 2.5 with 2.4?09:48
deadly_venomdjuuss IF my vid=card died on me, sure ! .. But at the moment my video card is working fine.09:48
Ademandeadly_venom: don't use XFree8609:49
djuussgzevsperso, did you use gksu  gparted?09:49
harisundpatbam: yeah ... you know, running something like python setup.py :)09:49
djuussdeadly_venom, what kind of video are you using now09:49
deadly_venomAdeman Look, who's spamming :-)09:49
Ademangcc would still compile it though...09:49
O2yes, I want to know what is X, x-window, xfree86, xorg, and there relation?09:49
deadly_venomdjuuss ATI Radeon 925009:49
patbamharisund: ah... likely story :)09:49
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Evilhello :)09:49
harisundO2: lookup http://xwinman.org/09:49
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gzevsperodjuuss: what's that? in about gparted it says I have version 0.0.8.09:50
djuussdeadly_venom: Ouch. It's gonna work, but its not gonna give you pretty games at a good framerate09:50
harisundO2 that has some good documentation in the beginning you might find helpful. Besides, there's always Wikipedia for everything under the sun these days.09:50
deadly_venomdjuuss used to be gamer.09:50
harisundpatbam: any idea how long a09:50
harisundmake takes?09:50
deadly_venomdjuuss I don't tend to play any games on Ubuntu box09:50
davieyHi,  I have dependency issue.  Can't find "linux-libc-dev" (for i386)  Any help appreicated09:50
Evilcan someone tell me how to completely remove gnome environment please? i only want to run fluxbox on my laptop09:50
djuussgzevspero, you need root acces to change partitioning. gksu runs gparted as root, that should help. Remember, dont repartition mounted drives!09:50
patbamharisund: depends on your processor, i think, more than anything09:51
patbamer, maybe ram too09:51
Ademanharisund: it all depends on the program, i'd expect python to take 10 minutes at least09:51
djuussdeadly_venom, then that ati board will work just fine with xorg09:51
Ademankernel builds can take hours09:51
harisundEvil: unless there's some space consideration that you are worried of, you don't need to eliminate gnome. But if you do read this page http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce09:51
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harisundpatbam: Ademan ok... patbam I think make is nearly done. I am attempting a checkinstall in a second or two.09:52
patbamAdeman, harisund: took me a few minutes on a prehistoric fedora box (which ended up only sorta working) and just a couple on a recent laptop with dapper09:52
deadly_venomdjuuss Question, how can I do a symbolic link, since my ndiswrapper tells me I don't have kernel builds on /lib/modules$(uname -r)/build ?09:52
patbamharisund: cool, thanks for your help09:52
djuussharisund, how can i stop gdm from running at boot? i installed kubuntu desktop over a normal ubuntu install and i'm using KDE09:52
KEA0463hello i installled fluxbox in ubuntu how do i get it to run09:52
KEA0463it wont start09:53
Ademanpatbam: i guess i overestimated the size of python :-p09:53
davieydeadley venom "ln -s linkto linkname09:53
wickedpuppydeadly_venom, ln -s from to09:53
djuussdeadly_venom, what daviey said!09:53
wickedpuppyKEA0463, you are still here ?09:53
KEA0463yeah09:53
wickedpuppywow ... how were you running fluxbox ?09:53
deadly_venomWhere is the kernel-build (just curious) location ?09:53
KEA0463i installed it from the terminal09:54
KEA0463now how do i start it09:54
patbamAdeman: maybe you were thinking of java ;)09:54
Evili have lot of space harisund but i really want to get a pure fluxbuntu with no more applications that i would never run09:54
davieydeadley venom "linkname also includes path ie /home/test/linktotest09:54
davieystartflux09:54
davieyi think09:54
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wickedpuppyKEA0463, i know how how were you trying to run it ... oh log out .. at the log in screen change the section to fluxbox09:54
Ademanpatbam: the longest thing i've ever written took about a minute to compile...09:54
Ademan<< n00b09:54
harisundEvil: ok. Either way the page I linked you to earlier should be fine.09:54
gzevsperodjuuss: how do I run gparted through gksu?09:54
Ademanabout 6000 lines of code09:54
KEA0463at the login screen?09:55
Evilthanks harisund :)09:55
wickedpuppydjuuss, you are here too .. boy i sure got lots of friends09:55
patbamAdeman: if you're a newb, i'm an oobernoob, because i stay away from any language that needs a compiler :)09:55
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KEA0463were will i see it09:55
djuussgzevspero, alt+f2, gksu gparted09:55
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deadly_venomDaveyJ so, it would be --> ln -s /from/location/of/kernel/build /lib/module/$(uname -r)/build .. correct?09:55
harisundpatbam: I wonder who I am, since I stay away from any language except English :)09:55
wickedpuppyKEA0463, yes .. look for session there aren't many words there ..09:55
Ademanpatbam: hah, take the time to learn c or c++, they're important you know...  python is great too though, i'm starting to learn python cause its very powerful09:55
wickedpuppyKEA0463, look bottom left09:55
KEA0463ok illl giver er a go09:56
patbamAdeman: c++ and i had a very unloving and disastrous love affair09:56
KEA0463or i could type startflux right09:56
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Ademani still don't like a lot of "features" though, like how tabs work, (you have to tab in functions and whatnot)09:56
harisundpatbam: Ademan continuing our discussion, I see a lot of gcc -pthread lines... what does the -pthread do while running gcc?09:56
KEA0463alt=f209:56
wickedpuppyKEA0463, yes if you are not in X ...09:56
djuusswickedpuppy, dude, IRC = internal relations console. Ergo, i'm your imaginary friend.09:56
Ademanharisund: pthread = posix thread09:56
Ademanmultitasking09:56
Ademanor multithreading rather09:56
harisundAdeman: oh! I remember that word from my Operating Systems class!09:56
wickedpuppyLOL09:56
KEA0463is x the gui iam looking at09:56
KEA0463that says ubuntu09:57
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Ademanpatbam: what happened? lol09:57
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wickedpuppyKEA0463, have you logged out yet ?09:57
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patbamAdeman: i went screaming back to my scripting languages :)09:57
KEA0463not yet09:57
deadly_venomis VFAT = FAT32 ?09:57
djuussit was still love tho, righ patbam?09:57
patbamharisund: still building?09:57
Ademanpatbam: the concept of variable type? haha09:57
wickedpuppyKEA0463, then pls do .. if you realllly can't see session pls come back and ask us09:57
djuussdeadly _venom, yes09:57
patbamdjuuss: love, in the sense of "the way a mouse loves a cat"09:57
harisundpatbam: no.. running checkinstall now .. but I see a lot of "no such file or directory" lines.. think that is ok?09:58
KEA0463ok09:58
harisundpatbam: having a look .. hang on..09:58
djuusspatbam, hey that sounds like me and my girlfriend09:58
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mattiMorning.09:58
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Ademani wonder how much the linux users with significant others : linux users without  has changed since the release of dapper :-p09:58
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bitwiseshiftlefthello, i have a couple questions on ubuntu09:59
davieyHi,  I have dependency issue.  Can't find "linux-libc-dev" (for i386)  Any help appreciated09:59
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djuussdepends ademan, does dapper run world of warcraft?09:59
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Ademanhehe, with wine it does!09:59
patbamAdeman: i'm firmly in the latter group O.o09:59
Ademani'm engaged O.o10:00
Ademanor soon to be anyways10:00
Ademanin the proccess of finding a ring10:00
djuuss:O you havent asked her yet?10:00
djuussand, is a loopback enough of a ring?10:00
Ademanhahahhah10:00
patbamAdeman: try a frootloops box :)10:00
Phlostena keyring perhaps?10:00
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Ademani gave her a ring i made out of paper, it didn't satisfy her though...10:01
Phlostenjust give an IOU note10:01
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pwkhi10:01
djuusswell you could at least have used actual paper, not toilet paper10:01
davieygive her a toekn ring network in your house10:01
harisundpatbam: did you see a whole lot of "No such file or directory" messages10:01
patbamyou could give her your pgp public key... and tell her to get her own key ring10:01
Ademanyeah, especially not used tp...10:01
bitwiseshiftlefti custom compiled a 2.6.18 kernel.  it definitely has my chipset and fs drivers, because i could boot with it.  but after i upgraded to the latest edgy bits, it doesn't boot, citing "cannot boot from unknown(0,0)" as if it had no fs drivers10:01
patbamharisund: yeah :-/10:01
pwki'm having a hard time deicidng which version of linux to install.. kde or gnome ?10:01
harisundpatbam: hmm ... ok give me a couple more minutes10:01
AdemanGNOME10:01
djuussKDE10:02
deadly_venompwk gnome10:02
Ademanand its a desktop environment, not the type of linux10:02
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bitwiseshiftlefti can boot under 2.6.17-ubuntu, but it panics half the time on boot, and i can't read the panic message, because it scrolls backtraces off the screen10:02
Phlostengo the gnome10:02
djuuss /cast FlameShield lvl 210:02
davieypwk: both, test drive them10:02
bitwiseshiftleftafter it boots, it's rock-solid10:02
pwkwhcich one is easiest for a newbie?10:02
Phlostenrun them all10:02
bitwiseshiftleftany ideas how to fix?10:02
deadly_venompwk gnome10:02
djuusspwk: KDE10:02
O2apt-get install g++   =    apt-get install build-essential!!!10:02
deadly_venom:-P10:02
O2apt-get install g++   =    apt-get install build-essential!!!10:02
pwkwhats difference ?10:02
Ademanpwk: everyone has their own opinion, just try both10:02
Ademanstyle, look and feel, etc10:02
wickedpuppyO2, no ... build-essential install more than g++ ...10:02
tonyyarussopwk: Gnome is simple.  KDE looks more like Windows.  (I'll second that, try both)10:02
O2who can tell me.10:03
Ademana lot of people say GNOME is more stable, which I agree with10:03
pwkbut they same just different setup ?10:03
BlueEaglepwk: The only real answer would be to try each one out for yourself and see what you like. You can have both installed and choose which one to use when you log in.10:03
Ademanplus Adept blows10:03
PhlostenAdeman: agreed10:03
tonyyarussopwk: Same in that they're both Ubuntu.10:03
O2oh, maybe10:03
Phlostenadept is inept10:03
pwkso, i got the gmome cd to install10:03
BlueEaglepwk: To do this you simply install kubuntu-desktop after installing ubuntu (or ubuntu-desktop after installing kubuntu) and then you're free to choose.10:03
harisundpatbam: kind of painful ... . a couple of things..10:03
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BlueEagle*flameshield lvl 2 terminated*10:03
pwki can install it, then like downalod a pack via terminal10:03
NubHi10:03
tonyyarussopwk: You can also customize each beyond recognition (for instance, I have a URL for a guide on making Gnome look like OS X)10:03
Ademanpwk: then install the GNOME cd, then try KDE later if you're not satisfied10:03
BlueEaglepwk: That is correct.10:03
pwkand then i can switch between them both ?10:04
tonyyarussopwk: Yep10:04
patbamharisund: pain builds character :)10:04
davieyapt-get install build-essentials: build-essential: Depends: (Unmet libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or libc-dev Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.0) but it is not going to be installed10:04
harisundpatbam: first hte documentation says if you want to retain your previous version of python, do a make altinstall and not a make install.10:04
BlueEaglepwk: That was what I said. :)10:04
pwkok10:04
pwkcause i need to learn linux10:04
tonyyarussopwk: I once had a dozen different environments installed at once for kicks.  'tis fun10:04
djuussHmm, i wanna learn Python.. where do i start?10:04
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AdemanBlueEagle: you put down your flameshield too soon!!! GNOME RULES KDE DROOLS!!!!10:04
patbamharisund: so, "sudo checkinstall make altinstall"?10:04
pwki got windows vista and xp on now10:04
Ademanlol10:04
[Nige] hi all10:04
NubI have a question about edgy, if I download and install the beta today, will I have to download the final version again?10:04
patbamdjuuss: have you programmed before?10:04
pwki can use acronics boot loader ?10:04
Madpilotdaviey, sounds like there's something wrong with your sources.list if you're getting that sort of error10:04
NubOr will it be upgraded automatically bu ubuntu?10:04
wickedpuppyNub, no you update way10:04
harisundpatbam: now that's what I tried. But it crapped out too. So I just tried make altinstall and it works.10:04
djuussif playing mindgames on 4 yr olds to turn them into murderous rapists counts, yes10:05
tonyyarusso!python10:05
AdemanNub: i don't reccomend installing the beta either way, just wait for release10:05
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Nubwickedpuppy: oh goodie, thanks.10:05
ubotupython: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 125 kB, installed size 532 kB10:05
wickedpuppyNub, you got to update ...10:05
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davieymadpilot: doh, how can i re-create my sources.list10:05
tonyyarussoBah.10:05
BlueEagleademan: I put it down because any flames to come after that explination was just a show of immaturity and all but you got it. ;)10:05
Madpilotdaviey, just a second10:05
NubAdeman: Wireless doesn't work in dapper, been trying for over a week now :(10:05
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deadly_venomNub tried ndiswrapper/madwifi ?10:05
NubAdeman: the best advice on forums till now has been to install edgy10:05
AdemanNub: ?!?! mine worked flawlessly... what card?10:05
harisundpatbam: I am now trying to figure out a way to get it to work with checkinstall... let's see..10:05
patbamharisund: could you do a favor and do $ python2.5 ; and then at the prompt do >>> import sqlite3 ?10:05
wickedpuppyNub, actually if it doesn't work in dapper ... i doubt it will work in edgy10:06
Nubdeadly_venom: yeah, ndiswrapper brings me to some kind of a prompt that says, "DB"10:06
pwkso, all i need now is help on howto setup the bootloaders,10:06
Ademannot only that my card is an obscure integrated card as part of an obscure brand of laptop...10:06
NubAdeman: BCM431010:06
davieyMadpilot: i tried to install it from search for the depenendant deb's but one wasn't avaliable on the http: rep index10:06
djuusspatbam, no, i havent :P10:06
pwki got vist'a bootloader now to dual boot xp/ vista10:06
Ademangrub uber alles!10:06
Madpilotdaviey, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic - but how did you mess up your sources in the first place?10:06
pwkwill linux destroy vist'a loader ?10:06
djuusslilo!10:06
Ademanpwk: yes, if you want it to10:06
NubAdeman: atleast thats what lspci says10:06
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pwki want vista, xp, mac os x, and ubuntu on10:07
Ademanpwk: and i would definitely want it to... GRUB is far better10:07
davieyprobably automatix or adding own repos10:07
Nubwickedpuppy: i'd rather try because a laptop without wireless is pretty useless :p10:07
djuusskde > grub10:07
pwkwould grub boot vista ?10:07
wickedpuppydaviey, pls do not recommend automatix here10:07
djuusspwk, yes10:07
pwkk10:07
wickedpuppyNub, of course there is nothing wrong with trying :P10:07
pwkso i'll install mac now,.. then ubntu10:07
Ademandjuuss: huh? kde is a desktop environment, grub is a bootloader....10:07
davieywickedpuppy: i wasn't - infact i was doing the opposite!!10:07
Madpilotdaviey, automatix is a wonderful way to break your Ubuntu. It's best avoided.10:07
pwkand grub should pick up all os's ?10:07
Ademanpwk: yep, its a multiboot loader10:08
NubPlus, people have been saying rave things about edgy, i really want to see if its any faster10:08
Ademangrand universal boot loader = GRUB10:08
djuussademan, so? Beer > Toilet Paper10:08
pwkk, i hope so10:08
pwkcause i need to boot vista10:08
pwkthanks guys10:08
Ademandjuuss: poop > pee?10:08
pwkguys its parttioning time10:08
pwk4 os's to install10:08
djuussthose are too related for it to make sense10:08
Ademanhrm10:08
Ademanapples > 510:09
djuussdepends on the amount of apples10:09
djuussheres one for you, what is the complete opposite of 'rubber band'10:09
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Ademaniron ball?10:09
wickedpuppywhat about penguins > apples > windows ?10:10
Ademanagreed10:10
MadpilotFolks, #ubuntu-offtopic is over there ---->10:10
djuussno its not, thats where the client list is10:10
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bitwiseshiftleftanyone in here know how to get openssl hardware accel on a via chip?10:10
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Ademan<--- over there is where my channel list is10:11
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djuussmy server list <------10:11
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POVaddct[x]  <-- nail here for a new monitor10:11
djuusswait, and channels too10:11
Ademandjuuss: xchat-gnome ? :-)10:11
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djuussewwwww gnome. On topic: Where do i set custom gamma/contrast/brightness values for my x server?10:12
MadpilotAdeman, the mods here lurk. It's more fun that way.10:12
davieyhmm, okay - i created a new sources.list from the link provided but still get.    build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or10:12
daviey                            libc-dev10:12
daviey                   Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.0) but it is not going to be installed10:12
Ademanlol10:13
Ademanowned10:13
neil_dI am trying to get ruby to work with the gtk2 module, but all I get are a lot of error messages, can someone help?10:13
Ademandaviey: sudo apt-get install g++10:13
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POVaddctdaviey: here libc6-dev depends only on libc6 and linux-kernel-headers10:13
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davieyademan: as you said = g++: Depends: g++-4.0 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed10:14
Ademanneil_d: paste your errors at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org10:14
POVaddctdaviey: are you running dapper?10:14
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davieyi am running dapper10:14
Ademandaviey: wierd... make sure nothing in your sources.list says breezy ok?10:14
POVaddctdaviey: i run dapper too by here i don't have a dependency against g++10:14
POVaddcts/by/but10:15
davieynothing saying breezy in source'10:15
Ademank10:15
Ademantry manually installing g++-4.0 ?10:15
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djuussthen try for sarge, woody, and hoary10:15
Ademaneh? sarge is debian...10:15
wickedpuppywhy not just ask him to paste us the sources.list ?10:15
boink!pastebin10:16
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:16
djuussyeh,,, daviey post  your sources.list there10:16
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POVaddctdjuuss: no!10:16
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deadly_venom!kernel10:16
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild10:16
neil_dAdeman: I pasted the code and errors to 'http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26049/'10:16
Ackeubu_whats the curretn gcc compiler version?10:16
Ackeubu_!gcc10:16
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)10:16
davieymy sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26050/10:17
djuussPOVaddct: no what?10:17
wickedpuppyAckeubu_, gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)10:17
POVaddctdjuuss: files like sources.list shouldn't be pasted here. better use pastebin.10:18
Ackeubu_wickedpuppy: someone was murmeling about gcc 5. hes out of it?10:18
deadly_venom!smp10:18
wickedpuppy?10:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:18
Ademanneil_d: and i assume you have the ruby bindings for gtk installed right?10:18
djuussPOVaddct, i said 'post it there' by there meaning paste.ubuntu-nl.org10:18
Madpilotdaviey, that looks fine, I don't know why you're getting errors10:18
POVaddctdjuuss: ah okay10:18
wickedpuppyAckeubu_, you want to know about latest gcc version or latest gcc version in the repo ?10:18
Madpilot!info gcc10:19
ubotugcc: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.0.3-1 (dapper), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB10:19
Ademangtg to sleep, speech tomorow10:20
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Ademannight all10:20
Schalkendoes anyone have the valid md5sum for the kubuntu 6.06 iso?10:20
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KenSentMeAdeman: good night10:20
davieyOkay, get this: unmnet dependency libc6.  So ap' install libc6 = already latest version10:20
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Daverockshey, i'm having trouble getting my wg111v2 netgear wireless usb adapter working on ubuntu 6.06 with ndiswrapper10:21
neil_dAdeman: I have the libgtk2-ruby package installed.10:21
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Daverocksi've gotten to the point where "ndiswrapper -l" says "driver present, hardware present"10:21
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Daverocksbut even when i say "modprobe ndiswrapper", the light on the device doesn't come on (which many wg111 tutorial things said it should) and i don't have any wireless interface under ifconfig10:22
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POVaddctDaverocks: you meant iwconfig?10:25
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tamacrackerhey guys?...10:25
tamacrackerHow do I get my bit torrent to start?...10:26
DaverocksPOVaddct: it doesn't show in either ifconfig or iwconfig10:26
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tamacrackerIt used to start but another torrent client is actin as the default10:26
harisundThere's a package in the edgy repos that I want. How do I get it?10:26
davieyhmm.  Think i'm getting to the crook of it:  install libc6-dev:10:26
daviey  Depends: libc6 (=2.3.6-0ubuntu20) but 2.4-1ubuntu11 is to be installed10:26
DaverocksPOVaddct: in iwconfig, no interfaces support wireless because there is no wireless interface corresponding to the adapter there10:26
POVaddctDaverocks: any error messages in dmegs after modprobe ndiswrapper?10:26
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DaverocksPOVaddct: i'll check10:26
hummeli.  i recently installed ubuntu 6.0.6 and i'm having some trouble installing the libgtk2.0-dev packages...10:27
deadly_venomyou can install it without depencies, but i don't know how, sorry.10:27
POVaddctDaverocks: dapper doesnt have glibc 2.4. your sources.list is f***ed up10:28
hummelDaverocks, hmmm what do you mean?10:28
DaverocksPOVaddct: wrong person :P10:28
hummeloh10:28
POVaddctoops10:28
DaverocksPOVaddct: and it works now10:28
POVaddctdaviey: dapper doesnt have glibc 2.4. your sources.list is f***ed up10:28
harisundHow do I install a package presesnt in the edgy repos into Dapper?10:28
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DaverocksPOVaddct: even though i did "modprobe -r ndiswrapper; modprobe ndiswrapper" before, i just did it again now, and it works xD10:28
Daverocksty :P10:29
davieyPOVaddict: i manully installed it a while ago!  however, i cannot remove it as the whole system is depenendant on it10:29
POVaddctDaverocks: strange :)10:29
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DaverocksPOVaddct: yeah, i just hope it stays working10:29
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davieyi need to roll back to a previous release10:29
POVaddctdaviey: why did you install that glibc version anyway?10:29
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davieyPOVaddct, it was a dependancy for another package10:30
POVaddctDaverocks: i try not to buy wifi hardware that requires ndiswrapper10:30
DaverocksPOVaddct: yeah, on this laptop i have ipw2200 which is nice because it's native10:30
POVaddctdaviey: but that package was certainly not from the ubuntu repos10:31
[Nige] anyone know how to get the wireless to start on notebooks without using the fn keys?10:31
DaverocksPOVaddct: but i had this old adapter lying around and i needed it, so yeah :P10:31
davieyPOVaddct,  it wasn't10:31
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POVaddctdaviey: that is the problem10:31
Daverocks[Nige] : it depends on the notebook, but if the fn keys are required to turn the adapter on, then you need to use them10:32
neil_dAdeman: any ideas10:32
Daverocks[Nige] : there's often a setting in the BIOS which determines the state of the wireless card on boot10:32
[Nige] Daverocks, , yer I want it to be turned perminately at boot10:32
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[Nige] I looked i didnt seen anyting in the bios10:32
POVaddctDaverocks: fortunately my usb wifi stick has ralink chipset, running native with rt2570 module10:32
Ackeubu_wickedpuppy: latest general10:33
Daverocks[Nige] : so what happens usually is you need to use the fn keys to turn the wireless card on after boot, then it works?10:33
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[Nige] yep10:33
tamacrackercan anyone tell me where i can locate the executable icon to strt up my bit torrent?10:33
DaverocksPOVaddct: heh lucky, but i didn't know about linux when i bought this adapter ages ago :P10:33
Ackeubu_tamacracker: write bittorrent in terminal10:34
wickedpuppyAckeubu_, i think you saw it right ?10:34
[Nige] it needs the fn keys pressed to start the wireless. I know its petty to want to have it work without it but i would rather have it boot with the wireless on10:34
davieytamacracker, execuatbel icon.  do you mean to make it look pretty?  or some other functional reason?10:34
Ackeubu_wickedpuppy: i think so thanks10:34
Daverocks[Nige] : yeah... it must be annoying10:34
tamacrackeri can't find the "file" (normally an icon) that i can double click to start up the program10:34
Daverocks[Nige] : what notebook model do you have?10:34
[Nige] yer it is :P\10:34
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[Nige] joybook 500010:34
[Nige] its becomming my media pc10:34
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davieyso how can i roll back to a version of deb without removeing the the dependancy's between apt-get remove/install10:35
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neil_dtamacracker: you need to turn it on using the menu editor.10:35
Daverocks[Nige] : that's kind of weird10:36
[Nige] Daverocks, i know.l..10:37
Daverocks[Nige] : usually most notebooks by default remember the last state of the wifi card10:37
[Nige] hmm okay10:37
[Nige] I might try that again. and see what it does10:37
Daverocks[Nige] : i don't know, maybe try looking more in the bios10:37
[Nige] yer I will10:38
[Nige] bbs10:38
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Daverocks[Nige] : but i can't really help you further, sorry =(10:38
Daverocksk10:38
tamacrackeroh ok neil_d gonna check it out righ tnow10:38
Daverocksbbl10:38
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neil_dAdeman: I pasted the code and errors to 'http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26049/' I have the libgtk2-ruby package installed.10:41
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rodrigosglalal10:41
tamacrackerneil_d it should be under System > Preferences > Toolbars & Menu right?10:41
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neil_dtamacracker: Applications->Accessories->Alacarte Menu Editor10:42
tonyyarussoWhere can I get a stand like this?:  http://ubuntu.sange.fi/ubuntu-cd-teline.png10:43
tamacrackerLOL10:44
tamacrackerthanks neil10:44
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tamacrackeri looked at that and didn't notice it :x10:44
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davieyfor those that may be interested in how to downgrade a package with huge dependency's: sudo dpkg --force-downgrade -i xxx.deb10:44
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deadly_venom!init10:44
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto10:44
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peace-keeperhi could you please un-ban me? i'm sorry for saying bad things in here :D10:45
neil_dI am trying to get ruby to work with the gtk2 module, but all I get are a lot of error messages, can someone help?  The code and errors are on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26049/ the libgtk2-ruby.10:45
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tamacrackerneil_d does revert mean set as default? or "apply" >.>10:48
anilomkarhow to install flash player for swiftfox10:48
deadly_venomneil_d do you have gtk2 ?10:48
neil_dtamacracker: you want to apply the change.10:48
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tamacrackerneil_d :( there's no apply to click on.. just revert and close10:49
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YogSothothHi10:49
tinyHi! I need to decide what kind of ubuntu to install. Desktop vs Server. I will need features from both on my lappie. So I guess I'm wondering how sharp the line between those two is? Can desktop install packages that are on server and vice versa?10:49
neil_ddeadly_venom: the libgtk2-ruby package is installed, the script does say it can find it, it says it is haveing trouble with the line that requires the gtk2.10:50
YogSothothI have a "Kodak EasyShare printer dock series 3" photo printer. Anything special to use it with Ubuntu?10:50
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kujaneil_d: Yes10:50
Riot777tinn: desktop10:50
kujaerr10:50
neil_dtamacracker: then close it and see if its in the menu.10:50
kujatiny*10:50
Riot777tiny: desktop10:50
tamacrackerneil_d you my friend... are good.10:51
tamacrackerYou're good you!10:51
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AbortDanyone know how to setup dual monitors with dual vid cards?10:52
jaakkosis this the right place to ask an XGL-question, or is there a support channel for it?10:52
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kenny_try10:52
kujaneil_d: What sort of trouble?10:52
tamacrackerthanks again neil_d10:53
anilomkarhow to install flashplayer for Swiftfox Please help me10:53
deadly_venomanilomkar -> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree10:53
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neil_dkuja: I am having trouble with ruby and gtk see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26049/10:54
tinyWhat else do I get on DVD image?  Can't find info on diferences between CD and DVD.10:55
kujaneil_d: Try changing your theme.10:55
anilomkardeadly_venom, I installed flashplugin-nonfree but it is not working10:55
DracoI am trying to run x-cd-roast for the first time and its telling me it has to be run by super-user first ?10:55
jaakkosis this the right place to ask an XGL-question, or is there a support channel for it?10:56
anilomkardeadly_venom, when i open website it is displaying "install missing plugin"10:56
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KEA0463ok i got flujxbox working10:57
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mesuthi, does aiglx packages for dapper-ppc exist ?10:57
KEA0463how do i get the graphs to show10:57
neil_dkuja: I am using the default theme, what one do you sugjest.10:57
KEA0463the system stuff on fluxbox10:57
kujaneil_d: Hm, the default Human? That one doesn't work? I had a problem like this before, I forget how I solved it.10:57
KEA0463the number charts10:58
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kujaneil_d: Ah wait.10:58
kujaneil_d: You don't have a Gtk.init10:58
kujaYou must always have a Gtk.init and a Gtk.main around the part where you show your application.10:58
AbortDanyone know how to setup dual monitors with dual vid cards?10:58
neil_dkuja: it is a direct copy from a web-page.10:59
kujaneil_d: Then the web page just forgot to include a Gtk.init10:59
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kujaneil_d: The Ruby-GNOME2 docs have many typos, just in case you haven't noticed.10:59
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KEA0463i have a question10:59
KEA0463in fluxbox10:59
neil_dkuja: oh great.10:59
kujaIt is best to read the C GTK docs.11:00
KEA0463how do i get those scientific looking computer charrts11:00
KEA0463running11:00
kujaOr the Python GTK docs...11:00
mart1hi there ... how do I recognize my wireless card with lspci ?11:00
SeraVitae hey guys, my ubuntu box, i left it running over night, woke it up this morning and it was totally hung.11:00
SeraVitaeanywhere i can check what's going on?11:00
SeraVitae...actually, it just hung again then. harddrive spun down, ubuntu responsive for about another 4 seconds. can't alt to a TTY.11:01
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kujaHarddrive failure, perhaps.11:01
SeraVitaeperhaps11:01
SeraVitaeany programs i can use to check it?11:01
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kujafsck to check your filesystem, maybe11:02
neil_dkuja: line 12 "gtk.init" got the error message "hello.rb:12: undefined local variable or method `gtk' for main:Object (NameError)"11:02
kujaneil_d: Gtk.init, I've been saying "Gtk.init", I never said "gtk.init"11:02
kujaGtk is a constant, not a variable named "gtk"11:02
SeraVitaeyeah i just booted up again and the harddrive (well one of them) went a bit bonkers.11:02
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Marlunhow do I make a file executable?11:02
kujaMarlun: chmod +x file11:03
mart1hey guys: how do I know my wireless card, and get it into work??11:03
RyEINicchmod a+x11:03
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boinkmartl: depends on what chipset it's using11:03
boink!wireless11:03
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:03
neil_dkuja: thanks that got it to go.11:03
mart1jejj11:03
mart1i'll see that odc, thanks boink11:03
mesutis there any ppc channel of ubuntu ?11:03
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Marlunkuja: thanks!11:05
kujanp11:05
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gandolfthewizardhi can someone help me please11:09
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tinyWhat are the differences between CD and DVD install isos? Does DVD include all packages while CD only selected and the rest in installed over net?11:11
tiny*is11:11
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oskudetiny: i doubt the dvd has _all_ packages... i think just more than the cd...11:12
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gandolfthewizarddvd has more space on them11:12
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tinyo:11:12
harm_I cant seem to boot into my Xubuntu system, its hangs after its sayd ... Ok, booting the kernel11:12
gandolfthewizardbut if the program is the same and it can fit on a cd then it could be the same program or if there are multipal cd they may have combinded them to fit on one dvd11:13
Shadowpillardid you upgrade the kernel?11:13
Shadowpillarand that happen?11:13
gandolfthewizardnope11:13
Shadowpillaror is it doing it off the bat?11:13
gandolfthewizardi have ubuntu11:13
tinyharm_: you sure your grub/lilo is setup properly?11:13
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gandolfthewizardi've been trying to get the java pilug in to wor kbut i have not been able to11:14
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woekeleis mesa gl support in ubuntu by default?11:14
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harm_Shadowpillar well yesterday i installed server 6.06 > then Xubuntu > easyubuntu11:15
harm_Shadowpillar and it was working fine yesterday11:16
harm_tiny well it worked yesterday and i didnt touch grub or lilo11:16
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tinyharm_: yesterday .. hm yeah and you prolly rebooted today ... something happened in between11:16
Shadowpillarharm_: what are your kernel choices on the bootloader (try pressing esc on start)11:17
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denndahi. did anyone succesfully install a lexmark z45 printer?11:18
Shadowpillareasybuntu might have messed things up11:18
harm_Shadowpillar should i reinstall grub via a live CD?11:18
harm_Shadowpillar kernel options > Ubuntu Kernel 2.6.15-27-k7 then same + recovery mode then 2.6.15-26server + recovery and a memtest8611:19
Shadowpillarno11:20
woekeledennda, did you check http://www.linuxprinting.org/ ?11:20
woekelethey have lots of info about printers in Linux11:20
woekelealthough it seems your printer is not listed there11:21
denndawoekele yes i did. but unfortunately the printer is not listed there11:21
woekele:{11:21
Shadowpillarharisund: try the recovery mode kernel11:21
Shadowpillarharisund: better yet11:21
Shadowpillartry the server kernel to see if it boots11:21
Shadowpillarharisund: : better yet11:21
harm_shadowpillar harm :)11:21
pohwom<x2> thats why linux comes with a gui11:21
pohwomlol ^11:21
Shadowpillar.....11:22
Shadowpillardamndsfkjhdsljfdsfds11:22
harm_=] 11:22
Shadowpillarharm_:  better yet11:22
harm_Shadowpillar iam trying to  boot server kernel now11:22
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harm_shadownpillar and that seems to work :)11:22
woekeledennda, you seem to have bad luck with that printer: http://lists.freestandards.org/pipermail/printing-user-lexmark/2003/001743.html11:22
tinyharm_: One possible cause is that ACPI is not working correctly but is enabled in the kernel. Try to disable it in your bios or in your kernel.11:22
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harm_tiny iam not that good w. linux could u wiki me or walk me through that?11:23
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harm_tiny_ and shadowpillar iam in my desktop now.. and everything looks fine11:24
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woekeledoes anyone know if mesa gl support in ubuntu by default?11:25
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pulltabHi, can someone please help me configure mail()?  I have read up on using it, but don't know how to go about debugging/knowing why it wont send mail11:26
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nold222hi...11:27
tinypulltab: you mean mail.1 ? As in mail command line program?11:28
woekelelo11:28
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pulltabI suppose so, tiny11:28
pulltabi was going to use postfix11:28
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Daverockspulltab: you mean, you were going to use a mail server running postifx?11:29
Daverocks*postfix11:29
tinypulltab: mail is a MUA ans postfix is MTA. You need to have MTA configured properly in order for MUA's to work11:29
DaverocksMUA = mail user agent, MTA = mail transfer agent11:29
anilomkarwhen i double click on the fat32 partition in Ubuntu that is displaying a error msg like "Unable to mount the selected volume"11:29
tinyknown MUA's: mail, pine, mutt, mozilla mail ...11:29
tinyknow MTAs: postfix, sendmail, exim ...11:30
nold222hi any can help me how to fix my internet11:30
tinypulltab: configuring postfix for local mail delivery is easy ..follow the guide11:31
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Daverocksnold222: it would be nice if you could be more specific... you can't ping anything, you can't access any webpages?11:31
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nold222thanks daverocks,, no. once i leave my cpu for a cuople of time11:32
nold222 i use dhcp11:33
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Daverocksnold222: can you still ping your gateway, etc?11:33
pulltabtiny: I think I wasn't specific enough, sorry.  I am trying to have the mail() function of php working with postfix?11:33
kakaltohow do I change the clock on ubuntu? I've rather forgotten. daylight savings has just gone into effect for me11:34
nold222yes, but my dns had gone11:34
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wickedpuppypulltab, why not ask in #php ?11:34
manni18TZ 11:34
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harm_Spam11:34
Flannelkakalto: there's a time/date section in sy11:34
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wickedpuppy!ops11:34
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wickedpuppythanks Madpilot11:34
djuusshaha11:34
djuussowned11:34
Daverocks=)11:34
Seveassigh, the versanet trolls moved to here now?11:34
Khamaelwas that gibberish for everyone?11:34
nold222yes11:35
Daverocksthink so11:35
FlannelSeveas: not the first time... although not in a while11:35
nold222daverocks11:35
harm_Kgameal yes unless u have japense shit installed11:35
Daverocksnold222: yeah, i heard ya :P11:35
tinySeveas: is versanet know for that?11:35
Madpilotsomeone claiming to be the Chancellor of Germany11:35
Flannelkakalto: time/date thing in system11:35
tiny*known11:35
Daverocksnold222: just a bit busy atm11:35
Seveasharm_, watch your language11:35
nold222ic11:35
tinypulltab: sorry no skilz in php11:35
Seveastiny, there are a fw german trolls using versanet.11:35
tinyI see11:35
Daverocksnold222: is your DNS settings in ubuntu the gateway, or an external DNS server?11:36
tinypulltab: but you should first check if postfix is working ok. Then use php mail() function.11:36
harm_Seveas sorry :) slipped out11:36
pulltabtiny: is there an easy way to test that?11:36
nold222i dont know, just new to linus, it is given by our asp here11:36
wickedpuppynold222, linus is a person ...11:37
nold222yup, c linux11:37
tinypulltab: sure it is: $ mail person@domain11:37
djuuss!linus11:37
tinyand follow from there11:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about linus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:37
tinypulltab: or read man mail11:37
tinypulltab:  I'm sure you can test it with one-liner11:37
pulltabthanks tiny!11:37
kakaltoFlannel: I mean from the CLI - I use ubuntu base, no GUI11:38
tinypulltab: no prob11:38
nold222daverock11:38
kakalto(sorry slow reply, charas went a little weird there. bad input)11:38
nold222were u11:38
nold222bc11:38
Daverocksnold222: so "host google.com" or whatever just doesn't work?11:38
Flannelkakalto: tzconfig I believe is what you want.  since you don't really want to change your system time, only your offset11:39
nold222it work at all once i set from the biggining but once i left my cpu unused.11:39
nold222it disappear''11:39
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Daverocksnold222: does ifdown/ifup-ing the interface fix it?11:40
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nold222may i know, how do you set your internet. i dont know11:41
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kakaltoFlannel: cheers11:42
Daverocksnold222: type ifconfig11:42
nold222and then11:42
kakaltoFlannel: but, if I'm on the edge, and I'm meant to end up @ GMT+13, what am I meant to do?11:42
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Daverocksnold222: do you see an interface which is UP and has your internal IP?11:42
mOrO^does it ask me ...where do you want to go today?11:42
Flannelkakalto: There isn't a GMT+13?  or, maybe it's GMT+12 + DST11:43
nold222yah, i got it11:43
Daverocksnold222: what's it called? something like eth0, eth1?11:43
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Burn_morning11:48
Burn_can somebody check this forum thread -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27351511:48
DennyCraneVery funny, the calendar died and popped up the inform developer window, I chose that and to update bug buddy, which promptly crashed and asked me if I would like to use bug buddy to report the bugbuddy crash - all very amusing - so who has be porting microsoft code then...! ?11:48
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mweDennyCrane: please file a bug report manually anyway11:51
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ShadowpillarMadpilot: it looked more like he accidently pasted his command prompt11:51
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ShadowpillarMadpilot: ever cat'd something that turned your terminal into gibberish?11:51
MadpilotShadowpillar, nope - I assume you're talking about the guy I kickbanned?11:52
Shadowpillaryeah11:52
Shadowpillarlook like he copied what he catencated from a TZ file, you can see a command prompt thing in there11:52
Madpilotcould be - I'll remove the ban in a while, before I sign off for the night11:53
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ShadowpillarMadpilot: cat /usr/share/zoneinfo/CET11:53
ShadowpillarMadpilot: for example11:53
Shadowpillarwatch what happens to your term11:53
Shadowpillar(type reset to fix it)11:53
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Madpilotcool - what causes that?11:54
ShadowpillarI dont know11:54
Shadowpillarbash interpreting a command character wrong?11:54
wickedpuppyyou can also cat binary files ? no ?11:54
Shadowpillaryep11:54
Shadowpillarjust expect a ton of gibberish11:54
wickedpuppyi remember getting the same result that way before11:54
kakaltoFlannel, dunno, looking11:54
edgyHi, if I launched msyqld from the command line it can't be killed using Ctrl+C or hanged using Ctrl+Z, any reason for this?11:55
Daverocksit's like cat /dev/urandom ... but that's more out of control xD11:55
Shadowpillarstrings will find text in a file11:55
wickedpuppyedgy, sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop11:55
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edgywickedpuppy: I want to kill it from the same window11:56
wickedpuppyedgy, yah you type it in same terminal11:56
wickedpuppyi don't remember mysql staying in the foreground while i run it ...11:56
edgywickedpuppy: I started it like this: sudo mysqld  so now I don't have a prompt ($)11:56
wickedpuppyi always get back the prompt11:56
edgywickedpuppy: this is for debugging purposes11:57
wickedpuppyah well i can't help ya .. cause i don't start it that way .. i usually do sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start11:57
tswwhat about sudo /etc/init.d/mysqld start?11:57
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mweedgy: you shouldn't start it like that11:57
RyEINicbecause it is a daemon, it is it's very nature to fork in to the background11:57
wickedpuppyi suppose kill or killall will do ...11:58
mweedgy: and you want to type sudo <program>& to start it in the bagground to get back to the prompt11:58
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edgymwe, RyEINic: sendmail is a daemon too and it would respond to Ctrl+C11:58
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Seveasedgy, to debug: ensable the most verbose logging and tail -f the logfile11:59
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edgySeveas: the issue is Ctrl+C _should_ be able to kill all programs that launched in the foreground why only mysqld is different11:59
mweedgy: most daemons come with a startup file in /etc/init.d/ that you want to use to start it11:59
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Seveasedgy, applications are free to ignore that signal12:00
Seveasand mysqld SHOULD not just be killed by it12:00
edgySeveas: really? can you give an example of another app that did it?12:00
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Seveasedgy, anything that has to store state before shutting down12:00
mesutanyone using ubuntu on powerpc ?12:00
Seveas!anyone > mesut12:01
djuuss!anyone12:01
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ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?12:01
edgySeveas: store state? can you explain this please12:01
Seveasedgy, if mysql just quits, your database will likely become very inconsistent12:01
Seveasit will ahve to flush its buffers12:01
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edgySeveas: Ctrl+C sends SIGTERM not SIGKILL so it should be able to save the buffers,no?12:02
Seveasyes12:02
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Seveasbut that means it won't instantaneously quit12:02
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edgySeveas: I don't expect it to quit instantaneously but it should quit any way12:03
edgySeveas: the situation now it doesn't12:03
mweedgy: rcconf ignores ctrl-c as well12:03
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oskudeedgy: isnt that an issue you should be talking with the mysql people ? (or does this happen only on ubuntu)12:04
wickedpuppyedgy, why not ask it to mysql developers ?12:04
Seveasedgy, then read the mysql docs -- it probably has its reasons for ignoring TERM completely12:04
nold222my real problem is my dns, how12:04
edgymwe: but rcconf is a curse application. I won't expect gui's to quit with it12:04
mweyou don't run mysqld like that anyway12:04
nold222daverocks12:04
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Daverocksnold222: yes?12:05
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edgyoskude, wickedpupp: i tried there but also no one can tell me and this gave me the impression it related to linux more than mysql ;)12:05
mweedgy: anyway, like Seveas said programs are free to ignore the signal12:05
nold222huh,,sory, there is panic here, i tot our building got fire12:06
wickedpuppyedgy, then try it on other distros see if there is a same reaction ... if so then nope its the program ignoring the TERM so mysql developers should know this12:06
nold222daverock12:06
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Daverocksnold222: yeesss, what is it?12:06
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kakaltoI can't change my timezone to GMT+13 (or GMT+12+DST12:06
kakalto)12:07
XCTestHi all.12:07
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nold222how cud i do that12:07
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RyEINicit ignores keyboard input but a sigterm does kill it12:08
Daverocksnold222: have you tested dns with basic things like "host google.com"?12:08
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XCTestIs possible to install xchat 2.6.6 on my ubuntu 5.10? This ubuntu runs on PowerBook G3...12:08
nold222yuh12:08
hazexp_yes12:08
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dennis-hey folks12:08
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Daverocksnold222: and that doesn't work?12:09
dennis-why does ls does not sort lexicographically? my dotfiles are intermingled with all other files instead of being on top of them. how do i change that?12:09
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XCTestIf yes, then where I can download the package of Xchar 2.6.6?12:09
Madpilotenough op spam ;)12:09
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nold222yah, lyk this one,, now i left, i restating my internet b 4 i used again12:09
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edgywickedpuppy: yes you are right. if it's in all distros, I should ask them why mysql ignores the Ctrl-C signal as explained by Seveas12:10
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wickedpuppyedgy, if you got the answer pls come back to tell us why .. thanks12:10
manni18p!m04msUHW!Pg;#}N/[PA= #w<=FTGk12:10
manni18                                                                       |vo_4h?Vy9xc,@n4OLf=[?T~    c%.LYVLJ;#6+6o1>\b{_mt2w(<12:10
manni18=iV3f~@hYs        qgp4|4swsEdix;WafPc12:10
manni18       i`] hTI;xLwo9a'o12:10
XCTestIt's nice to see a Server without Chanserv... :)12:10
manni18'HXtWO;zz-P(@Q12:10
manni18                               &2S12:10
manni18wtf is that?12:10
manni18i have that in my terminal12:10
edgyRyEINic: yes and that's what made it nonsense for me12:10
manni18and i cant read the other shit12:10
manni18how to fix?12:11
Madpilotmanni18, do NOT paste here12:11
Madpilot!paste12:11
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:11
manni18ok12:11
nold222daverock12:11
manni18but what is it?12:11
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lazzarethGday folks Does anyone reccoment a good asus motherboard with atleast 6 sata; 2 ata; 1gbit nic; pci-e; supports socket 478 (amd athlon 64bit 3200+)   ? Linux firendly.. mine just died today :D12:11
RyEINicit's not meant to listen to anything you type though :)12:11
nold222can ask other one12:11
XCTestCan someone reply me pllease?12:11
Daverocksnold222: yes, sorry, i didn't understand what your last question was12:11
lazzareth'recommend12:11
dennis-why does ls does not sort lexicographically? my dotfiles are intermingled with all other files instead of being on top of them. how do i change that?12:11
MadpilotXCTest, hmm?12:11
Daverocksnold222: have you got the name of the interface like i was asking before?12:12
XCTestIs possible to install xchat 2.6.6 on my ubuntu 5.10? This ubuntu runs on PowerBook G3...12:12
XCTestIf yes, then where I can download the package of Xchar 2.6.6?12:12
Madpilotmanni18, did you run 'cat' on something?12:12
nold222yuh12:12
lazzareth'friendly12:12
manni18i did run cat /dev/random12:12
manni18why?12:12
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Daverocksmanni18: well, that's expected12:12
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hazexp_XCTest: Do you have 'alien' installed?12:12
Madpilotmanni18, that'll do it. type 'reset' to reset12:12
hazexp_because you can download the RPM from here: http://www.xchat.org/files/binary/rpm/12:12
railzdoes anyone know where to get suitable images for a skydome image for compiz?12:12
manni18but i dont want to reset12:12
MadpilotXCTest, Ubuntu 6.06.1 has XChat 2.6.112:12
nold222daverocks can i ask your mail12:12
hazexp_then use alien to convert it to a DEB12:12
timalotwhy no changelogs in the update manager????12:12
wickedpuppy?12:13
Daverocksnold222: sorry, don't give it out publicly12:13
nold222k12:13
wickedpuppythen what do you want manni18 ? if you do not want to fix it ...12:13
manni18i want another fix12:13
XCTesthazexp_, Madpilot I cant install ubuntu 6.06.1... It isnt for macs...12:13
manni18i got sensitive data there12:13
nold222cayote, can you help me how to insy=tall this12:13
manni18in my console12:13
nold222install12:13
Madpilotmanni18, the fix *is* to type 'reset'12:14
wickedpuppymanni18, i don't think /dev/random output is sensitive12:14
manni18but i dont want to loose data12:14
manni18please12:14
MadpilotXCTest, there is a PPC version of 6.06.1...12:14
manni18i cant read it anymore12:14
manni18i got my password there12:14
manni18and stuff12:14
Daverocksmanni18: the data that was on screen in your console?12:14
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manni18yes12:14
Madpilot!enter12:14
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.12:14
nold222k12:15
timalot!nerd12:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nerd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:15
hazexp_XCTest: you don't need to install 6.06.1 to install 'alien'12:15
nold222cayote any help pls12:15
nold222daverock12:15
hazexp_which can be used to install XChat from this:12:15
hazexp_http://www.xchat.org/files/binary/rpm/12:15
Daverocksnold222: yes, did you try restarting the interface?12:15
XCTesthazexp_, what is alien please?12:15
nold222yup12:15
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edgywickedpuppy: sure12:15
kakaltohow can I add an hour to my clock from the CLI?12:15
Daverocksnold222: and? still dns doesn't work?12:15
kakaltos/CLI/command line12:16
edgydennis-: it ignores the dots12:16
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mesutSeveas: i want to know if there is a ppc channel for ubuntu12:16
Seveasmesut, there is not12:16
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nold2228s running now, but as soon as i restarted my cpu at all, all goes nothing12:16
hazexp_XCTest, it converts RPM files to DEB files, usable by Ubuntu's package manager12:16
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hazexp_to obtain alien, simply sudo apt-get install alien12:16
timalotpowertrip anyone?12:16
XCTesthazexp_, wow... That's sound good :)12:16
mesutSeveas: then i want to know if aiglx packages exist for dapper-ppc12:17
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XCTesthazexp_, can you give me the URL of alien please?12:17
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wickedpuppyXCTest, alien is in the repo ..12:17
Seveasmesut, aiglx there are no official aiglx packages for edgy, you'll need to ask the people who create the unofficial ones12:17
nold222k12:17
manni18eat my vagina Seveas12:17
wickedpuppyLOL12:17
hazexp_XCTest, you don't need a URL, simply 'sudo apt-get install alien' from the terminal12:17
Seveascs kb manni1812:17
elkbuntuo.O12:17
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elkbuntuoh, another of those12:18
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Seveasthe same12:18
Seveassomeone unbanned him12:18
wickedpuppyi don't know she was a girl ..12:18
Daverocksnold222: as in, it stops working when you restart, or stops when you leave it idle and come back later?12:18
hazexp_XCTest, now download the RPM for XChat from here: http://www.xchat.org/files/binary/rpm/12:18
XCTesthazexp_, thanks... But where I can find all this tips ;) ?12:18
Seveashazexp_, don't give crap advise12:18
Seveasusing rpms on ubuntu should be avoided whenever possible12:19
Seveasand using an rpm for xchat is nowhere near neccessary12:19
SeveasXCTest, those particular tips can be found in the 'what not to do on Ubuntu' section ;)12:19
XCTestSeveas, Thanks .. ;)12:20
hazexp_Seveas, I was only trying to help, sorry for the "poor" advice12:20
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kakaltocould anyone help?12:21
kakaltoplease?12:21
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XCTestAnyway, sudo apt-get install alien give me some errors... Fuck,,,12:21
timalotkakalto: i only give crap advice sorry.12:21
kakaltotimalot: hey, if you have any advice on my situation, that'd be kinda nice12:21
timalotkakalto: i might get told off... but fire the question?12:22
kakaltouh12:22
kakaltosaid it a few mins ago12:22
kakaltowait up12:22
denndahi. did anyone succesfully install a lexmark z45 printer?12:22
lazzarethI want to install edgy eft on my flash drive, but via the update method.. there wont be enough room to download the updates however.. what directory do i need to bind to my local hard drive ?12:22
kakaltohow can I add an hour to my clock from the command line? I have no GUI12:22
XCTestGuys, please, another way to install Xchat 2.6.6 ?12:22
timalotkakalto: the date command running as root will do it12:23
kakaltoguess I'll just man it12:23
timalotdate MMDDhhmm12:23
MadpilotXCTest, wait a couple of weeks, Edgy will have XChat 2.6.6 when it releases near the end of the month12:23
edgydennis-: what do you exactly want to do?12:23
oskudeXCTest: well, dapper seems to have  2.6.1-0ubuntu2, so you may have to compile it yourself... if you really really need that particular version...12:23
nold222daverock gtg, hope next time we can chat12:24
edgydennis-: may be you want an output like LC_ALL=C ls -a12:24
Daverocksnold222: k12:24
Daverockshe's gone, meh :P12:24
RyEINici have xchat 2.6.6 on dapper probably because i'm using backports12:24
SeveasRyEINic, most likely12:25
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XCTestMadpilot, oskude ok thanks... So next question please: where aI can find all the ubuntu distos for ppc?12:25
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oskudeXCTest: are thy not on the download page ?12:26
MadpilotXCTest, http://www.ubuntu.com/download - look for the ppc ISOs12:26
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XCTestOk, thanks. ;)12:26
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lara_hola12:26
Seveashi12:26
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XCTesthola lara_ :)12:27
elias_what is the best way to get a hardware overview (cpu, chipsets, ... whatever) on the console so I can post it in a bug report?12:27
Seveas%reload Encyclopedia12:28
ubotuOK12:28
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Seveas!xchat dapper-backports12:28
Greyelias_, lshw12:28
Seveasyay, bot bug :/12:28
XCTestI have to go now... Thanks for all guys. See you.12:28
lara_hola12:29
lara_ablamos en12:30
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Madpilot!es12:31
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.12:31
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edgywickedpuppy, Seveas: I just found on google that passing --gdb option to mysqld would allow it to respond to ^C ;)12:34
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triplchello every one12:36
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wickedpuppyedgy, thanks ... --gdb huh ? gnu debugger ?12:38
d_techI have a problem I just install ubuntu and I am a programer in php. I must work on files on remote serwers. how can I do this ? I install Quanta but i can't log in a remote place :(12:38
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Ackeubu_!help gcc12:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about help gcc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:39
Ackeubu_!show gcc12:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about show gcc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:39
Ackeubu_!gcc12:39
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ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)12:39
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wickedpuppy!gcc12:39
triplcplease help me: i've just install sympa on ubuntu (sympa is the mailing list program which is in ubuntu repo). how ever it does not seem to work. i do not know whether to ask the question here in this channel. all the installation seems ok. but when i open the website "https://lists.hanoictt.com/wws" it has Error 500 (internal error). Running the perl program manualy from ssh console (/usr/lib/cgi-bin/sympa/wwsympa.fcgi) is perfectly okay12:39
Ackeubu_!view gcc12:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about view gcc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:39
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triplc(lists.hanoictt.com is that computer)12:39
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KenSentMed_tech: you can use nautilus to connect to remote servers. Go to locations and Connect to server12:40
chamohello12:40
KenSentMed_tech: then you can use gedit to open the files12:40
Ackeubu_wickedpuppy: you didnt a command before gcc before. giveng the current version #12:40
d_techKenSentMe: I dit that and I have a ICO on my desktop12:40
wickedpuppy!info gcc12:40
ubotugcc: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.0.3-1 (dapper), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB12:40
Ackeubu_info thanks12:40
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d_techand that ist id doesent show on Quanta when I browse12:40
wickedpuppywhy not ask us Ackeubu_  ? :P12:40
aFxwhere is Proftpd(package) down ?12:40
Ackeubu_sry12:41
wickedpuppyAckeubu_, its ok .. it was just a kick after all .. not a ban12:41
KenSentMed_tech: well, that's a problem that i have too. Some programs use it, others don't use the servers from nautilus12:41
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d_techKenSentMe: waht ?! so what program support nutilus ?12:42
Ackeubu_hehe12:42
KenSentMed_tech: gedit12:42
Ackeubu_!view bot12:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about view bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:42
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Ackeubu_!bot12:42
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage12:42
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Seveasapparently he doesn't learn...12:42
triplc(oh bot?)12:42
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wickedpuppy... i did told him it was just a kick .. sigh12:43
oskudeSeveas: maybe someone should change all occurances of !foobar to /msg ubotu foobar in the factoids...12:43
d_techKenSentMe: it is a joke, I ned self completition and other stuff :/12:43
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KenSentMed_tech: i know, but i don't have another solution12:44
gnomefreakoskude: dont give him any ideas :(12:44
d_tech:/ whell and that was it about ubuntu for humans :(12:44
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d_techmaybe for humans but not for programers.12:44
Seveasd_tech, programmers use vim ;)12:44
oskudegnomefreak: i mean, the first people see is !foobar, and then they get mocked cause of using that... but yes, spamming (what ever) is not ok anyway...12:45
d_techyes, but not me. I don't have time to lear how to use it.12:45
chamoquestion12:45
chamois there a way to force update via apt-get ?12:45
chamoI have 30 packet not updated12:45
d_techbut ok thx12:45
d_techand by.12:45
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chamoand -f doesnt help12:45
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Seveaschamo, apt-get dist-upgrade12:46
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gnomefreakoskude: that wasnt his first time he has been wanred12:46
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chamoit says 0, 0,0 and 30 not updated!12:46
chamostill!12:46
gnomefreakchamo: -f isnt force in apt12:46
triplcsomeone please kindly help me how to get sympa work12:46
triplcplease help me: i've just install sympa on ubuntu (sympa is the mailing list program which is in ubuntu repo). how ever it does not seem to work. i do not know whether to ask the question here in this channel. all the installation seems ok. but when i open the website "https://lists.hanoictt.com/wws" it has Error 500 (internal error). Running the perl program manualy from ssh console (/usr/lib/cgi-bin/sympa/wwsympa.fcgi) is perfectly okay12:46
triplcchamo, apt-get dist-upgrade12:47
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O2Hello, every one!12:47
oskudetriplc: i doubt anyone use sympa here... so you would have more luck in sympa related room/list/forum ...12:47
chamotriplc: this doesnt work as just said.12:47
O2I am O2.12:47
chamognomefreak: any other idea ?12:47
triplcchamo, so, just use aptitude12:48
gnomefreakchamo: sudo apt-get update thank run sudo apt-get dist upgrade and please pastebin the output of both commands12:48
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O2I think ubuntu is my O2, :P12:48
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triplcchamo, sometime i cannot get apt-get to work, i use aptitude, press "U" then "g" then "g"... (sorry, i am not apt-get expert)12:49
edgywickedpuppy: yes12:50
chamotrying...12:50
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webbenWhen I plugin in my usb DVD drive, a dvc12:51
webbendvdrecord folder appears in /media12:51
webbenhow to I find out what /dev this is?12:51
deadly_venom"linux noprobe" is equivalent to what in Ubuntu ?12:51
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edgywebben: mount may be12:52
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Seveasdeadly_venom, what's noprobe supposed to do?12:52
triplcwebben, can you run "mount" to see which device is mounted as which folder?12:52
denndahi. did anyone succesfully install a lexmark z45 printer?12:52
deadly_venomSeveas it's a method of supporting a hardware that is newer than the installation,12:52
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suspectkbossis this the right place to ask newbie questions?12:54
Seveassuspectkboss, yes12:55
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gnomefreakchamo: is this a upgrade from dapper to edgy?12:55
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swilliamsonanyone hav any tip0s to figure out why the screensaer is not working on my dapper laptop, I cannot lock the screen either12:56
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gnomefreakchamo: and the 30 not upgraded are under the heldback part?12:56
chamoyep12:56
gnomefreakchamo: and 95% of them are python12:56
suspectkbossokay. i have a problem changing screen resolutions. i'm using version 6.01 on an intel386 with a nvidia 7600 gs card. i can't go above 1024x768. any hints?12:56
gnomefreakchamo: sudo apt-get install package package package ......   replace package with the name of the package12:57
gnomefreakchamo: please use #ubuntu+1 for edgy12:57
gnomefreakbrb smoke and coffee12:57
chamo:)12:58
Seveassuspectkboss, did you install the proprietary drivers?12:58
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suspectkbossahh ... no. what are those?12:58
Seveas!nvidia12:59
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:59
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Seveassee what ubotu just said suspectkboss12:59
suspectkbossok12:59
suspectkbossi'll check it out. thanks.12:59
myesteriousActually, Program installation with compiling from src , Can it specifies cpu model ? (such as add option 686 when use ./configure)01:00
pulltabHi, postfix is not sending mail, how do I debug/fix it? I'm using ubuntu 6.0601:00
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Seveaspulltab, check your logs01:01
suspectkbossi have another question. do i need to download gcc and emacs, or are they there on the cd?01:01
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pulltabSeveas, what logs do i check, sorry01:02
Seveassuspectkboss, gcc is, emacs not. You can install them with the pcackage manager01:02
Seveaspulltab, /var/log/mail*01:02
suspectkbosshow do i see what stuff is there on the cd?01:03
suspectkbossok01:03
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swilliamsonanyone know what logs to look at when gnome is no lading the screensaver, already check messages01:03
gnomefreakswilliamson: first make sure you have it set to use a screensaver01:04
gnomefreakswilliamson: also what version of ubuntu?01:04
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deadly_venomIf sudo is for root , then what is gksudo ?01:05
swilliamsondapper i686smp screensave is on if I goto prefs>screensaver01:05
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chamogksudo is for choosing user running the task01:05
chamoand for graphic instances01:06
chamobrb dinner01:06
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gnomefreakgksudo is sudo for gtk apps01:06
Ramunashello :)01:06
deadly_venomwhy can't i just type -> sudo ? is it necessary to use gksudo?01:07
chronoAZcan anyone tell me what i need to send mail using phps mail() function (on ubuntu + apache 2 + php)01:07
suspectkbosscan i use kde with ubuntu?01:07
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kyjagksudo is good for if you write a script or a menu item. without terminal it will propt for pass with a dialog.01:08
gnomefreaksuspectkboss: yes01:09
gnomefreaksuspectkboss: install kubuntu-desktop package and than you are able to choose what one you  want to use on the login screen01:09
oskudedeadly_venom: you should use sudo for commandline programs, and gksudo for graphical programs... (afaik)01:09
kyjasuspectkboss, you can install kde fluxbox or other window managers and can choose at login.01:09
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suspectkbossok... and how do i set kde as default? can i do that?01:10
Seveasyes, it will ask you whether you want it as default01:10
suspectkbossok.01:11
suspectkbossthanks!01:11
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kyjasuspectkboss, at opon loging in it will ask if you want that to be your default choice or not.01:11
kyjalol01:11
chronoAZwhat do i need to send mail using php mail() function?01:11
hawkaloogiechronoAZ, usually sendmail01:11
SpCombor an smtp server01:11
hawkaloogiechronoAZ, ask ##php, it's probably a configuration problem01:11
SeveaschronoAZ, either a locally installed mailserver or the details of a remote one in php.ini01:11
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chronoAZjust installed apache 2 and php packages, didnt configure them from the default01:12
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kyja#ubuntu user list towers over #debian by 22701:14
kyjaneat01:14
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tcrI just installed edgy. Why doesn't the libpcap package (that ships with it) create a default libpcap.so symlink, but only installs libpcap.so.0.8 in /usr/lib?01:18
kyja:/ ?01:18
kyja#ubuntu+101:18
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tcrkyja: was that comment directed at me?01:19
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yakumohello01:19
oskude!edgy > tcr01:19
kyjasorry yes tcr, the edgy help is at #ubuntu+101:19
yakumohow do i uninstall rpm program which is install on my ubuntu01:20
tinyjust installing ubuntu on a spare partition on my lappie ... it's installing system atm ... when do you pick your software? Or it installs default one01:20
fyrestrtrtiny: it installs whatever you have on the livecd.01:20
kyjatcr, was only thinking you might get help there for that.01:20
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tinyfyrestrtr: so there's no options there to pick WM, etc01:21
tcryes, thanks kyja. your comment was just a bit... err, cryptic for an outsider.01:21
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fyrestrtrtiny: not from the livecd, from the alternate cd you can.01:21
kyjahehe sorry01:21
tinyfyrestrtr: oh I see01:21
tinyfyrestrtr: what about the DVD?01:21
fyrestrtrtiny: don't know -- but if its a livedvd, then I suspect it will be the same. Either way, you can install whatever WM suits your fancy once you have the base system in place.01:22
yakumois there any software that convert avi to mp4 on ubuntu01:22
fyrestrtrtiny: so even if you have ubuntu, you can install kde or fluxbox.01:22
fyrestrtryakumo: mplayer01:22
deadly_venomAnyone used ndiswrapper ?01:22
tinythere's ubuntu WM?01:22
yakumothnks01:23
fyrestrtrtiny: no, ubuntu comes with gnome.01:23
tinyfigures yeah01:23
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fyrestrtrtiny: kubuntu is ubuntu with kde.01:23
tinylivecd look gnomish01:23
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tinyi wanna ubuntu + fluxbox01:23
tinythat's all01:23
fyrestrtrtiny: then use the alternate cd, install the basic system (type server at the boot: prompt) then install fluxbox.01:24
kyjathen sudo apt-get install fluxbox01:24
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kyjaor maybe sudo apt-get install fluxubuntu01:24
fyrestrtrnah, no such thing as fluxubuntu01:24
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oskudethat reminds me, will there be like "ubuntu-base/minimal" ? (or should we use server image for that)01:25
tinyokies ty mates01:25
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fyrestrtroskude: use the alternate cd if you want to control what gets installed.01:25
tinyyep I wanna control! :)01:25
oskudefyrestrtr: oh, it can do just like debian base ? didnt notice :/01:25
fyrestrtrthe alternate cd has the text mode installer, plus other configuration options not available on the 'desktop' aka live cd.01:26
fyrestrtroskude: the easiest way to get base system is to boot from the alternate install cd, and type 'server' at the boot prompt.01:27
oskudefyrestrtr: ok, that was the answer to (or should we use server image for that) :)01:27
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fyrestrtrthat gives you most of the userspace tools, no X. Basically everything you need to run a headless environment. Then if you want gnome you instal ubuntu-desktop, if you want kde you install kde-desktop, if you want fluxbox you install fluxbox etc.01:27
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oskudefyrestrtr: or is alternate cd "server" != server cd ?01:28
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fyrestrtrthe server cd is something else, its like the alternate cd, but with some server-only things, like a one-shot command to install the LAMP stack.01:28
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fyrestrtrfor the most flexible options, choose alternate. For the easiest install, choose desktop. If you are going to run the LAMP stack, choose the server cd.01:29
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tinyfyrestrtr: I appreciate this explanation ... this should be out there on ubuntu pages right at the start of DL page .. to sort of hit you in the face ... with links to download sections01:31
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oskudefyrestrtr: and if youre bored, use debootstrap ;)01:31
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tinyheh .. of course ... live cd installed GRUB and over my old setup .. hee01:32
tinyh01:32
kishorehi all01:32
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vegiVampgrrrrr @ update01:34
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Decadenthow can i open a *.chm fyle??01:34
Decadent*file01:34
vegiVampadept seemed stuck at 1% with this weekend's updates01:34
vegiVampturns out you need to open the details to notice the new skype package waiting for you to read the license agreement01:35
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fyrestrtrDecadent: with a chm viewer, like xchm01:35
vegiVampdebconf++01:35
unfknblvbl!realmedia01:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about realmedia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:35
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unfknblvbl!mp301:35
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:35
Decadentok thanks01:35
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ahfeelhi all01:37
ahfeelcould anybody help me with installing a gaim plugin ?01:37
ahfeelthe ./configure goes ok, i've installed gaim-dev01:37
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ahfeelbut make doesn't work, i get this :01:37
Dracohi all, is it possible to use a live cd but somehow load the network configuration when live cd boots ?01:38
ahfeelhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/GttIvK73.html01:38
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oskudeahfeel: error: cipher.h: No such file or directory01:40
Ash-FoxHow does one start java webstart under Ubuntu? I tried 'javaws', but I get a 'Splash: sysCreateListenerSocket failed: No such file or directory'01:41
ahfeelyeah i saw but01:41
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ahfeeli don't know what package i should get to correct that01:41
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oskudeahfeel: well, the readme of the program you try to compile should say that...01:42
unfknblvblwhat package do i install for realmedia files (i don't want the realplayer) and i've read the restricted formats01:42
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oskudeahfeel: or you could try your luck with "apt-file search cipher.h"01:43
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ahfeeloskude: oki !01:44
ahfeelthanks :)01:44
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Dracohi all, is it possible to use a live cd but somehow load the network configuration when live cd boots ?01:44
livingdaylightpeople aleady using Edgy in a stable manner?01:44
livingdaylightIs Edgy ready yet for the desktop?01:44
oskudelivingdaylight: no01:44
livingdaylightis Edgy stable and functional enough to use?01:44
livingdaylightoskude: no?  :(01:45
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oskudelivingdaylight: "<livingdaylight> is Edgy stable and functional enough to use?" maybe01:45
fyrestrtrDraco: the livecd tries to autoconfigure any detected network devices.01:45
oskudelivingdaylight: what do you think why its beta ?01:45
fyrestrtrlivingdaylight: no, its not recommended for day-to-day use.01:45
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Dracofyrestrtr, yes but it uses dhcp on a non dhcp network causing IP address conflicts01:47
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Dracoi would like to be able to specify the IP address, gateway and proxy server for the live cd01:48
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tinyfyrestrtr: fluxbuntu: http://www.fluxbuntu.com/01:56
tinyjust found it01:56
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aFxwhich editer does here user use much(emacs,vi,pico,etc.) ?01:58
aFxi am newbie01:58
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oskudeaFx: nano01:59
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ChocoCidgedit01:59
aFxnano?01:59
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oskude!nano > aFx01:59
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tinyaFx: for newbies nano, but learn vim and master editing02:00
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aFxtiny : ok02:00
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AnAntanyone knows the difference between -386 & -generic kernels ?02:01
Chousukevimtutor is nice. :)02:01
david83right02:01
lastnodeAnAnt, i just replied you no? :-)02:01
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AnAntlastnode: u told me to ask here ?02:01
lastnodeAnAnt, i also answered it before i asked you to ask in here :-)02:02
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tinyChousuke: yep but I like this vim tutorial better: http://www.vi-improved.org/tutorial.php02:02
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AnAntlastnode: k, thanks02:03
hydrohello all02:03
hydroI have what is probably a silly question but hope someone can help ...02:03
lastnode!ask02:03
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:03
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hydroI want to use, in Dapper Drake, Synaptic Package Manager, to download a Package ... but the Package is not the most current version. Is there anyway to get the most current version of the Package into my instance of Dapper Drake's package repository which will then be read by Synaptic Package Manager?02:04
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hydroubotu: thanks -- you're right, that's kind of silly to ask to ask a question02:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thanks -- you're right, that's kind of silly to ask to ask a question - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:05
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lastnodehybrid, ubotu is a bot, not a real person02:05
lastnodehybrid, which package?02:05
hydrolastnode: ugh!02:05
oskudehydro: and you need that "most current version" cause of an missing feature, or just cause its "most current version" ?02:05
hydrooskude: because I just want the "most current version" ... which seems to be a few versions later than the version listed in the package manager02:06
hydrolastnode: the wacom-tools ... I have a Tablet PC02:06
oskudehydro: ok ...02:06
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lastnode!info wacom-tools dapper02:07
ubotuwacom-tools: utilities for wacom tablets and other hid devices. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.7.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 36 kB, installed size 172 kB02:07
lastnode!info wacom-tools edgy02:07
hydrothe version of wacom-tools in Dapper Drake is 0.7.2 but on the web site its listed as 0.7.402:07
ubotuwacom-tools: utilities for wacom tablets and other hid devices. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.7.2-0ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 36 kB, installed size 172 kB02:07
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lastnodehydro, the maintainer has not updated it, :\02:07
lastnodeyou can compile from source, i guess02:07
hydrolastnode well, maybe I can live without 0.7.4 ... maybe its not that big of a deal02:07
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mAIJKHello. I want to install Linux on my computer, problem is that I do not have an CD-Rom. How can I boot from LAN and install that way? I have one Win XP machine that can host a ISO file or something like that... help??02:07
hydrothanks lastnode02:07
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lnxlo02:08
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lnxis there a Breezy badger backports ftp site where vlc player sitting? pls02:09
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oskudelnx, looked here ? http://packages.ubuntu.com/02:11
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lnxoskude: yes but there was too much dependency problems...02:13
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lnxwhed vlc dpkg -i 'ed02:14
lnxwhen*02:14
oskudelnx: dpkg -i ? you should use apt-get ...02:14
lnxk 'll try tx.02:14
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david83lnx, i can find the vlc over apt-get but didn't got backports enabled just with the breezy breezy-updates and breezy-security on universe and multiverse02:16
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tombohi, got a problem with apt, the file libapache-mod-ssl: usr/share/doc/libapache-mod-ssl/examples/sign.sh on my system is missing, so I decided to reinstall the entire package:02:17
deadly_venomhow do find my hostname of my ubuntu?02:18
tombowith apt-get install -reinstal t: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7] 02:18
spoilerheaddeadly_venom open a terminal, and type hostname02:18
deadly_venomspoilerhead ty02:18
david83hostname02:18
jribdeadly_venom: system > administration > networking > general,  will give you the info as well02:18
tombo[#ubuntu]  libapache-mod-ssl, ..02:18
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tombobut this wants to install apache-common as well but I am using apache2 and do not want apache-common. Any Suggestions?02:20
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wickedpuppywhy don't ya want apache-common ?02:21
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LorandKAanybody can cand me a url for the diskmounter script?02:21
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oskudetombo: read "apt-cache show apache2-common" it says "This package contains all the standard apache2 modules, including SSL support."02:21
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david83is it possible to give different users different /tmp directories?02:22
wickedpuppydavid83, why ?02:22
tombowickedpuppy,oskude, I do not want it apt-get forces me!02:22
mAIJKHey, I have ubuntu on my comp and it does not work after my hardware change.. I can access the terminal, my X is fucked up and I want to re install ubuntu but I dont got no CDrom. Can I reinstall ubuntu with APT-Get or something like that?02:22
oskudetombo: when you install what ?02:23
wickedpuppytombo, because it has necessary packages ?02:23
wickedpuppyoskude, i assume he installed apache202:23
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oskudewickedpuppy: i doubt02:23
tombowickedpuppy: exactly02:23
orbinmAIJK: what hardware change?02:23
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wickedpuppyLOL02:23
david83wickedpuppy just for better cleaning up issues02:23
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mAIJKorbin brand new computer but same HDD02:24
mAIJKI have tried to change in my xorg.conf02:24
Homer_mobileHiya peeps02:24
oskudetombo: so, you did "sudo apt-get install apache2" and it tries to install "libapache-mod-ssl" too ?!02:24
mAIJKand installed nvidia drivers02:24
mAIJKbut It doesn't work02:24
mAIJKI want a reinstall, feels better!02:24
wickedpuppydavid83, cleaning up what ? actually if you go to /tmp there should be sub dirs with names ...02:24
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LorandKAanyone can redirect me, where can I find the diskmounter script?02:25
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orbinmAIJK: if X isn't working you probably just need to reconfigure the xorg package to detect the different video card02:25
mAIJKok orbin. Can i make a autodetect?02:25
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orbinmAIJK: the reconfigure script should autodetect the new card, yeah02:26
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david83wickedpuppy i got different users on the machine and it makes conflicts because of some gnomefiles located in /tmp ;(02:26
mAIJKok, where do I find this script?02:26
wickedpuppyoskude, i think he was installing apache2 and apt-get installs both apache2 + apache-common .. he wants to get apache2 but NOT apache-common ... is it right tombo ?02:26
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Homer_mobiledoes anyone know if there is a x session manager for symbian smart phones i know there is for mobile windows02:27
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wickedpuppydavid83, and why you need to delete them ?02:27
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wickedpuppyi am sorry .. i do not understand your point there02:27
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urakaipahi there, just a simple question: i would like to set different modes for directory and files, recursively. I mean files have to be readonly w/o execute permission and dir have to be rw with execution (so i can browse the content). There's a way?02:28
tombo oskude: yes thats it, found know a work around I installed apache-common too, and its still lying there, I hope.02:28
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david83wickedpuppy, sorry i mixed something no deletion is to be made02:28
Dr_willisurakaipa,  chmod -R whatever02:28
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wickedpuppydavid83, ok ..02:29
Dr_willisurakaipa,  man chmod --->  -R, --recursive02:29
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urakaipaDr_willis but how can i set mods just for dir without change files?02:29
david83wickedpuppy, i just had 2 users and when i log in with the first one i get a gnome-panel error that the second user got a lock on it02:29
wickedpuppydavid83, type users ... how many names do you see ?02:30
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wickedpuppydavid83, or who02:30
LorandKAanybody, please, I can't find that diskmounter script :(02:30
Dr_willisurakaipa,  i would guess theres an option in  chmod, or one would use the find, command in addation to it.02:30
wickedpuppyi think find has it .. find with -exec02:31
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david83wickedpuppy, the users aren't logged in at the same time02:31
urakaipathx to both, i'm trying, stay tuned :)02:31
Dr_willisurakaipa,  looks like you would need to use find/chmod together02:31
wickedpuppydavid83, can't be ... you only see your name when you do who ?02:32
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yccheokhi, i try to download unrar, but i just cannot seach Synaptic Package Manager02:32
yccheokwhich repository i should added?02:32
wickedpuppyyccheok, system->admin->synaptic02:33
oskudeyccheok: propably multiverse02:33
jribubotu: tell LorandKA about diskmounter02:33
urakaipaactually i never used find, so it would be possibile02:33
Luc1What application can edit pdf files?02:33
david83wickedpuppy, i don't know for sure i am asking this for another person but he said that they weren't logged in at the same time02:33
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wickedpuppydavid83, then ask him to do who .. at least come up with something .. we will see how things go02:34
maxLFHey can someone show me the latest turtorial for installing W.O.W. in Linux?02:34
david83wickedpuppy, the two accounts were just sharing some files02:34
wickedpuppyyou and me talking here won't solve anything02:34
david83wickedpuppy, ok thx02:34
urakaipaDr_willis chmod doesn't care if it's a dir or a file. Do you already have the solution for using in combo with find?02:34
yccheokoskude: nope, i already have mutiverse, it just not there02:34
wickedpuppyso there were two accounts logged in ?02:34
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wickedpuppyyccheok, universe ?02:34
Dr_willismaxLF,  You are refering to World of Warcraft?  check the Cedega message boards perhaps.02:34
Dr_willisurakaipa,  id have to google for examples.. i aint done it in years.02:35
oskude!info unrar02:35
ubotuunrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB02:35
maxLFI meant in wine. o_o Cedaga is like money02:35
wickedpuppyurakaipa, find -type f -exec chmod 755 * {}; or something like that ... test it first02:35
oskudeyccheok: well, it IS in multiverse...02:35
david83wickedpuppy, he wanted to check the symlinks so if anything is mixed up with them02:35
yccheokoskude, u can find the non-free unrar there?02:36
maxLFDr_willis I was kind of hoping to use it in Wine. :/ Not Cedaga seeing as you have to pay for it02:36
oskudeyccheok: just read what ubotu said :/02:36
Dr_willismaxLF,  the same tricks will apply I guess. Ive given up on that Parasite WoW02:36
Dr_willis:)02:36
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Dr_williswine setup.exe and have at it.02:36
maxLFDr_willis, meh someone gave it to me as a gift.02:37
wickedpuppydavid83, really .. so does he have two users logged in or just one user ? and how do they share a file ?02:37
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maxLFDr_willis, i tried that and when it says replace the disk I click on the install for disc 2 nothing happens, I overwrite the files and nothing happens02:37
pwkhi02:37
pwki'm setting up my part for ubntu02:37
pwkwhat should i format it with in xp02:37
pwkfat 32 ?02:37
oskudeyccheok: and if you dont believe the bot :/ http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=unrar&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all02:37
Dr_willismaxLF,  copy ALL the cd's to a single directory.. then run the installer from that dir.02:38
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wickedpuppypwk, no just leave an empty partition ... ubuntu will format it02:38
david83wickedpuppy, sry he is still not chatting with me but i will ask him :) thx02:38
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pwkk02:38
pwkbbbl02:38
pwkthanks02:38
pwkhope it goes well02:38
wickedpuppydavid83, k02:38
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maxLFDr_willis, won't the files have the same name?02:38
Dr_willismaxLF,  ive installed it that way befor...02:39
Dr_willismaxLF,  why not Look. :P i dont memorize the install file names for games.. :)02:39
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maxLFDr_willis, no but I'm saying if they have the same name won't they try to replace each other?02:39
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Dr_willismaxLF,  once ya do get it working.. expect a few hrs of downloads for updates..02:39
maxLFDr_willis I dun mind.02:40
Dr_willismaxLF,  check the install cd files.. i have seen this trick done with MANY a game that comes on multi-cd02:40
seishisomeone can help me with comands of compacted files convertion ?? (zip to tar.gz)02:40
seishii've tried 'unzip -c file.zip | gzip -c > file.tar.gz02:40
seishibut when i try to open, it doesnt work02:41
seishi: |02:41
Dr_willisthat sort of ignores the 'tar' aspect dont it? :)02:41
mjrseishi, no wonder, there's no tarring in there02:41
Lasse|NORanyone know a good ftp client? something like smartFTP?02:41
Dr_willis!ftp02:41
ubotuFTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd02:41
ChaosFany/wg 3002:41
Dr_willisand others in the repos.. :)02:41
Lasse|NORthanks02:41
maxLFDr_willis so just copy them all to the same directory (i.e. same folder?)02:41
mjrseishi, you probably need to unzip into the filesystem and tar czf file.tar.gz files02:41
seishihm..02:41
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Dr_willismaxLF,  yes.. same DIRECORY.. 'folder' is for windows users. :P02:42
mjrseishi, you can't pipe multiple files like that02:42
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Dr_willis :)  *ducks*02:42
seishimjr, i've suspected of that02:42
Dr_willisdirectory=folder02:42
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maxLFDr_willis, oh, sorry. xP I have been Windows free since about... o.O;; April of 06.02:42
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Dr_willisHeh heh... only the names have been changed to protect the guilty.02:43
oskudeDr_willis: directory = cli, folder = gui ?02:43
Dr_willisoskude,  but they are the same thing. :P so why bother with diffrent names.02:43
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Dr_willisoskude,  ive seen this argued befor. :)02:43
oskudeDr_willis: the same reason why people bother to display them in gui ;P02:44
Dr_willis'the icon looks like a folder' so its a folder..  what does a 'directory' look like.. ?02:44
seishimjr, my base: "gunzip -c file.tar.gz | bzip2 -c > file.tar.bz2"  (tar.gz -> tar.bz2)02:44
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Dr_willisoskude,  yea.. amuzing how the common names for them can be taken from windows - but terms like 'control panel' are not02:44
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lucien__hi02:45
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Gabby_Hayesand the fact that linux doesn't have a "blue screen of death"  either.02:45
lucien__is there a way to prevent a kernel module from being loaded (automatically)?02:45
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maxLFI fxing hate the blue screen02:45
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Dr_willislucien_,  theres a modules.blacklist file that  can do that.02:46
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lucien__Dr_willis: thx!02:46
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Dr_willisI much perfer the AMIGA "Guru Mediation Error" screens02:46
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maxLFDr_willis, I'm getting same name problems02:47
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seishimjr, how can i do that?( convert .zip to .tar.gz)...02:47
seishi-.-02:48
maxLFDr_willis, it's for InstallerTome or whatever, installer.exe, and installer Icon02:48
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mikeshhi, do somebody play Lineage 2 on Ubuntu?02:48
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urakaipawickedpuppy you're quite right, thx for the hint. The right command for files seems to be: find -type f -exec chmod ug-rx {} +02:48
Eludias_How do I set up RAID1 on Ubuntu?02:48
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denndahi. does aiglx & beryl & edgy run with ubuntus fglrx? :)02:49
Dr_willismaxLF,  makes one wonder how they have a DVD install then..  You could also mount/unmount the cds manually. wine has options on how it can automount things.02:49
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tehstevhey all, i'm try to figure out a way to replace one word for another on the command line in many files... i'm guessing it involves sed02:49
cuma_cumihi02:49
cuma_cumianyone can help me?02:49
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Dr_willismaxLF,  or those files are identical name,, and identical in data.. because for some reason the installer wants the same file copied to several cd's02:49
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Dr_willismaxLF,  that makes MUCH more sence.. beause why would you have an installer.exe on cd 402:50
maxLFdr_willis, that's why I put them in seperate directories before.02:50
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hildewhy can't I use the "mail" command on command line? what pakket do I need to install?02:50
gpeekcuma_cumi: you can try something like perl -pi -e 's/user/username/g' ~/.m2/settings.xml02:50
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McNutellawhen the new KDE 3.5.5 is realeased, will this be an easy to install package ?02:50
hildemail bla@foo.com02:50
maxLFDr_willis: So just skip all the same namers?02:50
cuma_cumii found this error with my first ubuntu "E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs"02:51
cuma_cumido you have an idea for that?02:51
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Dr_willismaxLF,  I would.02:51
LorandKAis there some kind of a plugin that displays the current song in the status for gaim, by listening with xmms?02:51
maxLFDr_willis, so what do I do when it asks for a new cd?02:51
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david83how to write one mail every min to some recipient ?02:52
cuma_cumii want to update my ubuntu..hiks..but found that error "E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs"02:52
Dr_willismaxLF,  if the installer ran from that directroy - it shouldent ask.02:52
Dr_willismaxLF,  try it and see. :)02:52
maxLFDr_willis, I'm just copying all the CDS, man is the game ever large.02:52
gpeektehstev: you can try something like for i in `find . .-iname blah.*`; do perl -pi -e 's/string1/string2/g' $i; done02:52
muthanai want to update kernel02:53
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pulltabHi, I have configured postfix as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix , but I still can't get it to send mail..Is it because I dont have a somain?02:53
maxLFo.o So I reinstalled Ubuntu last night lol , I messed up installing an ATI driver and somehow installed 3 other linux kernels. LMFAO XD02:53
pulltab*somian = domain02:53
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cuma_cumihiks02:54
Dr_willismaxLF,  thats only PART OF IT... wait for the next 4 hrs+ for the updates.. after you get it installed.02:54
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Dr_willismaxLF,  now ya  know why i gave up on it.. in part..02:54
muthanai want to update kernel02:54
muthanai want to update kernel  ubuntu02:54
maxLFDr_willis: why?02:54
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cuma_cumii want to update my ubuntu..hiks..but found that error "E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs"02:54
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Dr_willismaxLF, why to what part.. :P why the huge updates?02:54
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maxLFDr_willis: I can just go on my other computer or play gamecube rofl, this isn't my only computer but it is my personal one.02:55
maxLFDr_willis: Cause it's a forking large game.02:55
DJAdmiral!language02:55
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:55
Dr_willismaxLF,  its a treadmill of a game also.02:55
maxLFDr_willis: I really wanna try it though, I was actually considering putting windows on my computer just to play some games but Windows dislikes my SATA harddrive while Dapper Drake is okay with it.02:55
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Gabby_HayesmaxLF  .. do you have a SATA  DVD drive, also?02:56
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Dr_willismaxLF,  windows - requires (often) a floppy disk with the sata/raid drivers for itto install properly02:57
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maxLFGabby_Hayes: I have a SATA hard drive. o.o02:57
tehstevgpeek: thanks a lot! did the trick!02:57
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maxLFDr_willis, I know, I put the disk in and I do what it's supposed to do and then it doesn't get to installing it goes to some MS DOS recovery thing02:58
Gabby_Hayesthxs,  guess I'll try finding one,  as I have a nice MB on which the IDE controllers are shot, but it has 4 SATA connections on it for a Raid...02:58
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pulltabHi, I have configured postfix as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix , but I still can't get it to send mail..Is it because I dont have a domain?02:58
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sunpacpulltab, no. you doesn't require a domain to send mail out.02:59
sunpacpulltab, how did you test to send mail?02:59
pulltabsunpac, thanks.  mail name@domain and also telnet02:59
sunpacand what does telne localhost 25 says?02:59
abhinayhow to install doom ?03:00
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muthanai want to update kernel  ubuntu03:00
pulltabTrying 127.0.0.1...03:00
pulltabConnected to localhost.03:00
pulltabEscape character is '^] '.03:00
pulltab220 gmail.com ESMTP Postfix (Ubuntu)03:00
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rubsohey guys, how to compile ndiswrapper under ubuntu, while there is no kernel source?03:01
sunpacpulltab, mail from:<test@test.com>03:02
sunpacrcpt to:<some@valid.email>03:02
ANT_ANT_is_Not_Thi people,  some user with a toshiba that can help me with the FNFXD ?03:02
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pulltabsunpac, done..now it is just the cursor thing03:04
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sunpacpulltab, then type 'data', then 'enter' follow by some content.03:05
sunpacpulltab, then '.' to end03:05
pulltabthen quit?03:05
sunpacand check your maillog or something. i don't use postfix.03:05
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lazzarethWhat SSL libary do in need to install for GAIM? i just complied gaim 2 beta 3.1 and it wont connect with msn or gtalk without ssl encryption? the gaim.fs.net/faq-ssl.php site is down? otherwise I would follow those instructions03:06
DJAdmiralhey guys03:06
DJAdmiralquestion: how do i activate a screen magnifier?03:07
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Daverockslazzareth: try gaim.sf.net as opposed to gaim.fs.net03:08
meloni know.. i know.. personal preference 'n all that.. but if people were to suggest their idea of a great torrent (bitlord) alternative for ubuntu.. what would it be?03:08
wheelswitchi use Torrent under wine03:08
DJAdmiralcan somebody help me out with putting on a screen magnifier please?03:09
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Daverocksi just use azureus...03:09
yccheokis it possible to play rmvb file in vlc player, or i have get a copy of real player?03:09
lazzarethDaverocks, That was a typo... I cannot reach that site :(  Can you paste the contents into pastebin or something?03:09
DJAdmiralmy laptop's monitor fell off. now it's attached to a TV. I can barely read chat text now.03:09
melonwheelswitch: really? i was just looking at that.. i have wine installed 'n configured.. is it a difficult setup or will it be step by step normality?03:09
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wheelswitchnah, it is really easy to setup melon03:09
Daverockslazzareth: i'd like to, but my firefox isn't working atm... it's why i'm here :P03:10
melonnifty - tyvm03:10
lazzarethAhahaha, Dang03:10
Daverocksfirefox just won't open03:10
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lazzarethdid you try opening via terminal, to see any errors being generated ?03:10
Daverocksyep, no output03:10
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Daverocksit just stops03:10
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Daverocksi even tried running firefox-bin as opposed to the shell script03:11
jaysqwatchquestion:03:11
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lazzarethHmm03:11
lazzarethDont suppose you have reinstalled it?03:11
DJAdmiralPeople - please help. My laptop's screen has fallen off. What's left of my laptop is now connected to a TV.03:11
lazzarethor tried out the beta03:11
DJAdmiralHow do I start the screen magnifier?03:11
Daverockslazzareth: i haven't changed it at all, i just installed ubuntu03:11
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Daverocksreally really weird03:12
pulltabsunpac, there are so many errors (been at it for a while) I dont know what is relevant03:12
lazzarethOhhh03:12
wheelswitchmelon: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191161&highlight=utorrent+wine03:12
Daverocksfirefox-bin does say something though03:12
jaysqwatchDrapper server install, succesfully installed vmware free server, but I am not able to get the usb to get recognized on vmware03:12
Daverockserror while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory03:12
alipoxi have a probleme with my connecion03:12
Daverockseven though libmozjs.so is RIGHT THERE03:12
Daverocksin the same directory03:12
jaysqwatchubuntu see it fine, but I am wondering if there is a config somewhere that I am missing03:12
DJAdmiralSomebody please help - how the heck do I enable Screen Magnifier? I can barely read fonts as my laptop is now connected to this puny TV.03:13
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lazzarethDaverocks dont suppose you tried $ sudo apt-get install libmozls ?03:13
melonwheelswitch: already installed 'n running Torrent03:13
melonthanks again..03:13
melon:)03:13
lazzareth'js sorry03:13
Gabby_HayesDaverocks  .. can you get to a terminal  & apt-get?03:13
wheelswitchmelon, madcore, enjoy.03:13
maxLFDr_willis: okay copied all the files im gonna take a whack at er.03:13
lazzareth$ sudo apt-get install libmozjs      is that a package ?03:13
DaverocksE: Couldn't find package libmozjs03:13
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DaverocksGabby_Hayes: yes..03:14
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lazzarethNeither can i :)03:14
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Gabby_Hayestry what lazzareth  said:   $ sudo apt-get install libmozls03:14
Daverocksi tried that, and it gave this03:14
DaverocksE: Couldn't find package libmozjs03:14
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DJAdmiralSomebody. Please. Help.03:15
Daverocksit IS js, not ls03:15
DJAdmiralHow. Do. I. Enable. Screen. Magnifier.03:15
lazzarethGaby_Hayes I couldnt find it either03:15
Gabby_HayesDaverocks  try $ sudo apt-get -f install firefox03:15
Daverocksthat's because it's not a package, it's a library contained in the firefox package'03:15
DaverocksGabby_Hayes: will do03:16
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Eludias_How do I set up RAID1 on Ubuntu?03:16
Daverocksfirefox is already the newest version.03:16
Gabby_Hayeslazzareth  it is a virtual package  (iirc) under the firefox03:16
Daverocksi updated it earlier, but the OOB firefox didn't work either03:16
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Daverocksevery single other program works :S03:17
Gabby_HayesDaverocks   .. try to uninstall firefox, then reinstall it via apt-get03:17
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DaverocksDJAdmiral: try System -> Assistive Technology Support03:17
DaverocksGabby_Hayes: k03:17
orbin!raid > Eludias_03:18
jaysqwatchi have found that using md is a pretty easy way to set raids03:18
orbinEludias_: try those03:18
DJAdmiralTHANK YOU03:18
DJAdmiralFinally03:18
DaverocksDJAdmiral: sorry it took so long ;)03:19
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DaverocksGabby_Hayes: done03:19
Daverocksand still not working03:19
DJAdmiralbrb while i log back in and out.03:19
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Eludias_orbin: Thanks!03:19
SimonAnibal-WorkAnyone reading this an expert on xorg.conf and the hardware detection done every boot-up? (or have some experience with xorg.conf at all???)03:20
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Daverocks!anyone03:20
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?03:20
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SimonAnibal-Workheh, ok then03:20
SimonAnibal-WorkI am managing Ubuntu on a very large number (read: nearly 300) of workstations at an Indiana high school03:21
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SimonAnibal-WorkThe problem I'm coming up with happen only on the teacher workstations03:21
SimonAnibal-Worksee, they're connected to a projector in the ceiling which necessitates a very long VGA cable03:21
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tomboWhich key-file do I take as the  root-certificate of my own ca, and how do deliver it to the browser usually?03:21
psYchotichi, I'm wondering how I should batch rename files to be something like this: bla1.jpg, bla2.jpg, bla3.jpg with the rename command.03:21
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SimonAnibal-Workthe signal degradation caused by this long cable is enough that if the computer is booted up while connected to the cable, Ubuntu decides it cannot support 1024x768 screen resolution03:22
david83psychotic isn't it the mv command?03:22
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psYchoticdavid83: I dunno03:22
SimonAnibal-WorkIf the computer is booted up not connected to the cable, it goes to 1024x768 just fine03:22
psYchoticdavid83: it doesn't seem to work with mv03:22
morphixwhen is the scheduled release for edgy eft?03:22
psYchoticbut let me try again03:22
jaysqwatchhaving problems with a vmware configuration under ubuntu.  My host sees the usb devices, but I the guest operating system does not.  Has anyone run into that problem?03:22
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tombo david83: pyYchotic, use bash!03:23
SimonAnibal-WorkI hate to tell teachers "boot up unplugged and then plug it back in"03:23
david83tombo, how is the command ?03:23
Daverockspsychotic: what tombo said, you can use a bash script with a loop to do the numbering03:23
psYchotichm, ok03:23
psYchoticI guess I'll do it by hand then03:24
seishihow can i generate randomized numbers in bash ? it's possible to do something like that ?03:24
Daverocksseishi: echo $RANDOM03:24
psYchoticthanks03:24
Asche_83mHello!03:24
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str47sup?03:24
psYchoticciao03:24
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SimonAnibal-WorkAnyhow, if anyone knows anything /msg me about it. I have to run and supervise an area. I'll be back in a little while.03:24
str47you tell me ;)03:24
seishiDaverocks, thanks :D03:24
Daverocksseishi: np =)03:24
Asche_83mI'm having a problem with my xorg.conf concerning the keyboard layout03:24
gh0zthello03:24
StAfZe6sup03:25
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zyclopAsche_83m: could you be more specific, please?03:25
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Daverocksthis is really weird, i really would have expected firefox to work out of the box in ubuntu 6.0603:26
Daverocksno idea what's going on here03:26
Asche_83mof course, zyclop03:26
morphixhas there been any updates to the current Jmicron sata/ide raid controller issue yet?03:26
Asche_83mthe key to do these signs around html-tags doesn't work03:26
swilliamsonhey all I installed dapper on my dell Latitude Laptop, the only complaint I have is that when I put it on the port replicator, my mouse and keyboard work fine, however I cannot get the display to work on the monitor, only the laptops lcd, any ideas03:26
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Asche_83meverything else works fine03:26
Gabby_HayesDaverocks  .. had no problem myself, but others have had same problem03:27
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Asche_83mmy xorg.conf said I had a pc104 keyboard which was wrong.03:27
DaverocksGabby_Hayes: ok, i might google03:27
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Asche_83mI changed it to pc105 but it did not solve my problem03:27
Gabby_HayesDaverocks  try checking for the correct dependencies from:  http://packages.debian.org/testing/web/mozilla-firefox03:28
zyclopAsche_83m: wich keyboard layout is common at your location?03:28
Asche_83mde03:28
DaverocksGabby_Hayes: ok but i don't understand it because the file it needs is right there03:28
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zyclopAsche_83m: dann schau doch mal, welches layout bei dir eingestellt ist.03:29
Gabby_Hayesit may be a corrupt file off the DVD  :-(03:29
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DaverocksGabby_Hayes: gah, i can't use firefox to view that link xD ... lynx it is :P03:29
CVirusI need a special characters utility03:29
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Asche_83malso in der xorg.conf steht de03:29
Asche_83m    Option         "XkbModel" "pc105"03:30
Asche_83m    Option         "XkbLayout" "de"03:30
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zyclopAsche_83m: dann schau doch mal, ob die taste klemmt oder dergl03:30
Asche_83msollt ich vielleicht mal machen, mom03:31
oskude!de03:31
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de03:31
pulltabHi, I have configured postfix as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix , but I still can't get it to send mail..I am completley stuck03:31
CViruspulltab: check your logs for errors03:31
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pulltabCVirus: any particular error? I have pages03:32
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Asche_83mwhat's the name of that program which shows events unter X?03:32
frauxHi, what i've to after modprove em28xx to make a pinnacle usb pro stick  (tvtuner) work ?03:32
CViruspulltab: what pages ?03:32
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segfault_Asche_83m, xev03:32
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MonsieurBonhello03:32
Asche_83mthanks!03:32
segfault_np03:32
MonsieurBondoes anybody know how i get ffmpeg to know aac?03:32
pulltabCVirus, Well, I cat /var/log/mail* | grep Oct\ \903:33
pulltaband there is a lot of errors03:33
CViruspulltab: paste them some where03:33
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pihi03:35
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piis there any way to boot my dapper without monitor's cable connected with a resolution 800x600 and not 640x480 (default)03:35
lazzarethI have somewhat of a weird problem in ubuntu.. My power button (the one on the main panel, that you can add, remove, etc) Has turned into a 100% log off button03:35
lazzarethdoes nothing else03:35
lazzarethdoesnt prompt or anything03:35
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Dracopi, I havent found a way had the same problem03:35
pieh eh03:36
pivnc you too?03:36
Dracoyup03:36
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lazzarethpi remove 640x480 form the /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?03:36
oskudelazzareth: and youre using dapper ? (without xgl&co) ?03:36
lazzarethwithout yes03:36
lazzarethand dapper03:36
pulltabCVirus: just waiting for pastebin, seems to be lagging03:36
oskudelazzareth: automatix or other 3rd party scripts ? ;)03:36
lazzarethoskude have the same problem?03:36
pionly remove 640x480?03:37
lazzarethnope03:37
oskudelazzareth: no, never heard about that :/03:37
lazzarethOhh03:37
lazzarethWell, its weird.. doesn even prompt to log off03:37
lazzarethit just does03:37
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lazzarethsingle click -> bam03:37
oskudelazzareth: have you looked if theres a known bug ?03:37
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pihow can specify the default resolution withou cable?03:37
lazzarethAnd even when i navigate to the off button in the system menu, it preforms the same function03:38
lazzarethoskude, Nope i havent03:38
oskude!bugs03:39
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/03:39
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pulltabCVirus: http://dark-code.bulix.org/ys1l35-19734 , those are the nmost recent erros03:39
lazzarethpi with no 640x480 wouldnt that make it auto -> 800x600 ?03:39
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piok, I will try03:39
lazzarethpi BACK IT UP first :P03:40
pi yes03:40
pisure03:40
oskudelazzareth: maybe it doesnt even logoff, but crashes the x ?03:40
pithanks03:40
lazzarethNo it logs off, cause it asks me to save the session03:40
CViruspulltab: I guess you have to generate SSL certificate03:40
lazzarethIm certain its logging off03:40
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oskudelazzareth: and have you done something "not ubuntu way" lately ?03:40
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lazzarethDefine, "not ubuntu way" ?03:41
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CViruspulltab: locate cacert.pem03:41
pwkhi03:41
CViruspulltab: give me the result03:41
pwki got a problem installing linux03:41
oskudelazzareth: using repos that are not from ubuntu.com... installing with dpkg -i ....03:41
pwkit boots up the cd03:41
lazzarethAsk away, someone here will help03:41
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pwkand it gets to the first menu screen, so i chose start or install03:41
pwkthen it loads03:41
lazzarethoskude, Ahh yes, I am using an outside repo03:42
pwkbut after a while03:42
lazzarethonly 103:42
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pwkwhat is suppose to eb teh desktop,  its all green lines dwn throught the screen03:42
lazzarethbut im sure i needed it for something at the time03:42
damousyshey peeps03:42
pulltabCVirus: Null03:42
lazzarethso im not sure if i should get rid of it03:42
damousysive got a problem03:42
pwkand i can shut down via the keybioard.. so it s avideo drvier issue.. can anyone help ?03:42
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oskudelazzareth: well, now its too late anyway :) (if something from that repo broke it)03:42
damousyswhen i try to install compiz03:42
pwkit worked on 5.10... but this new version won't go03:42
pwkits  nvidia geforece 6800 256mb vid card03:43
Gabby_Hayespwk .. if you get a menu at the beginning,  choose the "safe"03:43
pwki really want to install and learn linux03:43
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pwkok03:43
pwki saw safe there03:43
CViruspulltab: sudo apt-get install ssl-cert03:43
damousyswith installing compiz and compiz-gnome it cant find his dependencies03:43
lazzarethoskude... Gahhhh... Well.. I dont have another 320gb lying around to reformat.. but ive been meaning to03:43
pwkthen anything particualr i do ?03:43
damousyswho can help03:43
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oskudelazzareth: if we knew where that logoff button is (mayn gnome-panel, or so) then you could reinstall it from ubuntu repos...03:44
Gabby_Hayesthen you will get more choices as you continue .. choose default, until you know it works03:44
damousysiam using these repo's03:44
damousysdeb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz dapper main03:44
damousysdeb http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main03:44
Daverocksstill no idea what's going on here =(03:44
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pwkok03:44
pwkbrb03:44
wickedpuppypwk, i got gforce 6600 ... no problem so far ... for 3 years and 5+ distros03:44
pwkhope it works03:44
CVirus!aptitude03:44
ubotuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide03:44
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pulltabCVirus: already installed03:44
pwkit just fails to run live cd with the vid card running03:44
lazzarethoskude Thanks for you help eitherway03:44
pulltabCVirus: sudo apt-get install ssl-cert03:44
lazzarethits not like it will kill me03:45
pulltaboops03:45
Daverocksfirefox still throws the same error message even if i chmod all the *.so files +x03:45
pwkthxs03:45
pwkbbl03:45
pulltabCVirus: http://dark-code.bulix.org/g8tr05-1973503:45
lazzarethi dont need to use anything other than.. shutdown03:45
Gabby_HayesDaverocks   try:  $ dpkg-deb -I packages/firefox_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.1-1ubuntu12_i386.deb03:45
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Gabby_HayesDaverocks  have you installed any extensions or plugins, lately?03:46
CViruspulltab: edit this file smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/ssl/cacert.pem03:46
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CViruspulltab: err ... I mean this argument03:46
DaverocksGabby_Hayes: i have never started firefox successfully, i couldn't have installed any plugins or extensiosn03:46
damousysill be back03:46
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Daverocks*extensions03:46
damousysbye03:46
CViruspulltab: /etc/posrfix/posfix.conf03:46
CViruspulltab: typos03:46
Daverocksthe out of the box install firefox did not start'03:46
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oskudelazzareth: well, the solution could be "sudo apt-get install --reinstall foobar" but i dont know in which package that quit button applet is...03:46
sparkleytonepostfix.conf?03:46
sparkleytonethat doesn't exist03:47
Daverocksit is very, very strange03:47
CVirussorry03:47
sparkleytone/etc/postfix/main.cf03:47
CVirus/etc/postfix/main.cf03:47
pulltabThanks03:47
DaverocksGabby_Hayes: and your command didn't work, "packages" directory doesn't exist03:47
lazzarethoskude, no doubt03:47
lazzarethand im clueless also03:47
CViruspulltab: use /etc/ssl/certs/cacert.org.pem instead of /etc/postfix/ssl/cacert.pem03:48
Gabby_Hayesnp,  you are not the first to have that similar problem ...03:48
CViruspulltab: /etc/init.d/postfix restart03:48
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CViruspulltab: try to send an E-mail then paste me the log03:48
DaverocksGabby_Hayes: could you point me to a relevant webpage regarding the problem? google didn't help that much.03:48
Gabby_HayesDaverocks  .. try as bove:  $ sudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox03:49
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DaverocksGabby_Hayes: i reinstalled before, but i'll do again03:49
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Gabby_HayesDaverocks  .. just a sec ...03:49
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DaverocksGabby_Hayes: thx...03:50
Daverocksalso i reinstalled just now and didn't fix it03:50
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pulltabCVirus: Send email via mail <name@domain> or telnet?03:51
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oskudelazzareth: maybe its in "gnome-applets"03:51
foominerale: I followed that howto, but my user cannot login03:51
CViruspulltab: doesnt matter I guess03:51
lazzarethill reinstall that03:51
errpast-wc1off topic - Firefox on Ubuntu 6.06, when I SAVE a wiki page (pbwiki), I need to ctl-f5 to see change03:52
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oskudelazzareth: but make sure it comes from ubuntu.com03:52
errpast-wc1even after cache set to 0 on FF03:52
highnekoWhere's screensaver config in gconf-editor for glmatrix?03:52
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Gabby_HayesDaverocks try:  $ apt-get install --reinstall mozilla-firefox03:53
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DaverocksGabby_Hayes: i just did03:53
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honkhi03:53
pulltabCVirus: http://dark-code.bulix.org/brjxb7-1973603:53
DaverocksGabby_Hayes: i think i've reinstalled it about 4 times now, and nothing's changed03:53
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Gabby_HayesDaverocks  .. I have been googling as 'ubuntu+firefox+dependencies'  and 'ubuntu+firefox+install'03:54
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CViruspulltab: are you sure you restarted postfix ?03:54
Gabby_HayesDaverocks  are you using gnome, or KDE ?03:54
pilazzareth, are you there?03:54
DaverocksGabby_Hayes: gnome03:54
Daverocksi just installed ubuntu about 6 hours ago03:54
Gabby_HayesI have had mine about 3 days03:55
pulltabCVirus: Certain.03:55
Daverocksthe OOB firefox on all other distros i've installed has worked...03:55
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CViruspulltab: paste me your main.cf please03:55
oskudelazzareth: gotta go03:55
Daverocksubuntu is great, but this is really weird03:55
piis there any way to boot my dapper without monitor's cable connected with a resolution 800x600 and not 640x480 (default)03:55
lazzareththanks oskude03:55
Gabby_HayesDaverocks try:  $ apt-get -f install --reinstall mozilla-firefox   (again)  :-(03:55
sidny4Daverocks, what problem are you having with firefox?03:56
pihi lazzareth03:56
DaverocksGabby_Hayes: alright...03:56
lazzarethpi yes? sorry missed the question ?03:56
^punisherhi03:56
piok03:56
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Daverockssidny4: it won't start, it won't open03:56
Gabby_HayesDaverocks  .. but run apt-get autoclean  first ...03:56
sidny4what kind of error do you get?03:56
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DaverocksGabby_Hayes: kk03:56
^punisherprivate03:56
pii have tried to modify xorg.conf and remove 640x48003:56
pinothing03:56
pisame problem03:56
Daverockssidny4: nothing from the "firefox" shell script03:56
lazzarethSo its still booting at 640x480 ?03:56
lazzarethHmm03:56
Daverockssidny4: but when i run firefox-bin...03:56
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piyes03:56
sidny4what kind of graphics card do you have?03:56
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piintegrated in mainboard03:57
Daverockssidny4: it says, libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory03:57
pulltabCVirus: http://dark-code.bulix.org/d7csta-1973703:57
piepia 1000003:57
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kmaynardpi, did you remove it from all color depths and restart gdm?03:57
lazzarethWell, No idea really, that was my best quess? ive never had to do that, (im on 1920x1440 right now )03:57
piepia m1000003:57
Daverockssidny4: when the file is clearly there03:57
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pisorry but now I must go03:57
sidny4Daverocks, what kind of graphics card do you have?03:57
lazzareth'guess03:57
piI return in 30 min03:57
lazzarethseya pi03:58
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Daverockssidny4: on this box, i think it's sis03:58
kmaynardpi, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:58
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Daverockssidny4: but all other graphic applications work :S03:58
sidny4Daverocks, ok, I've heard of issues with nvidia cards and firefox but no sis errors03:58
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baboIs there a TorPark for linux ?03:59
plutoLast night I installed the KDE desktop, and since the install my login screen is over sized.  If I run dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg, will this solve my problem?03:59
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m14pluma: probably03:59
b03ntobabo: i dont think so, im using tor and privoxy 4 that kind of stuff03:59
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DaverocksGabby_Hayes: that installed a new package "mozilla-firefox" as opposed to "firefox", but neither "mozilla-firefox" or "firefox" works as a command04:00
kmaynardpluto, i dont know where it is in kde, but in gnome there's an option to set a default resoulution for your computer04:00
Daverocksthis is really dumb, i'd expect firefox to work out of the box on ubuntu...04:00
sidny4Daverocks, try sudo /opt/firfox/firefox04:00
kmaynardwithout having to reconfigre...but, it is an option and it will work04:00
BiSk-8hello, is there any1 that can give me the name of a prog i can get through apitude or simply download that will let me extract a dvd onto my computer?04:00
Daverockssidny4: will do04:00
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babob03nto, yeah, I want a 'clean' browser though. I'm sick of writing web code only to find that I've forgotten to reenable scripting in my browser ..04:01
plutokmaynard: are you speaking of the default for the login screen, or the gui session?04:01
triplchello everybody04:01
Daverockssidny4: sure it's "/opt/firfox"?04:01
tinycrap ... alternate install process just died on me ... freezed the laptop04:01
babob03nto, what have you done about the DNS issues ?04:01
Daverockssidny4: maybe "/opt/firefox"?04:01
tinydamnit04:01
sidny4haha, oops, /opt/firefox/firefox04:01
Daverockssidny4: /opt/firefox/firefox: command not found04:01
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Daverockswith the sudo at the beginning too04:01
sidny4hmm, ok04:01
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b03ntobabo, what dns issue ? firefox xchat ..?04:02
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babob03nto, tor just anonymizes tcp. But dns works over udp, so it isn't anonymized. Which means that you're not actually anonymous at all...04:03
pwkhi04:03
pwki went to safe mode.. and it fixed the video problem04:03
AlziHey. I am trying to set up a dual-boot system with Windows..... so I first removed Linux and tried to install windows. after some basic formatting and file copying i get the message "error while loading operating system". Can anyone help me with this? Guys, I know this is a windows question but I can't get good support for windows without money, so don't try to be too biased please.04:03
pwkbut now i need help installing it04:03
Gabby_Hayesgreat to hear,  pwk  :-)04:03
pulltabCVirus: http://dark-code.bulix.org/d7csta-19737 (sorry if you got this already)04:03
pwki get to the point where to mount the drives04:03
CViruspulltab: edit this line smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/ssl/cacert.pem04:03
pwkbut i have no idea what to do04:03
pwkcan anyone help?04:03
pulltabspoke too soon :)04:03
Gabby_Hayespwk,  a dual  boot system?04:03
triplcplease help me: i need to run a mailing list server on ubuntu... i've tried "mailman" and "sympa" but i do not think i've found what i need.... could you please recommend a good one. need a mailing list server which has web-based interface for people to subscribe/unsubcribe and search and read the archive (like Yahoo group).04:04
zoidi79the xorg-version in edgy beta doesn't seem to like my box - it can't start x properly, and the messages in Xorg.log aren't helpful04:04
b03ntobabo, really ..? i dont know that much :(, but i check via tcpdump it pretty self, or am i wrong on this..04:04
wasabitriplc: mailman is fine04:04
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CViruspulltab: change it too smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/ssl/certs/cacert.org.pem04:04
Daverockseven when i say "firefox -safemode" it doesn't make a difference04:04
triplcwasabi, i tried but cannot get mailman to have search feature04:04
sidny4does typing in firefox return anything?04:04
b03nto"i mean pretty safe" :p04:04
pwkwhere i have drop down menus for each parttion and it says i need a root and swap.. can anyone help me with this ?04:04
babob03nto, ?04:04
triplcthis is for the company (private list)04:05
Daverockssidny4: no output unless i do "firefox-bin" from /usr/lib/firefox04:05
lazzarethI have a problem with my gaim encryption (version 2 beta 3.1) i tried to build it with the gaim-e package but with no success?04:05
Ronzhey yall...still having issues with nvidia drivers. i have installed nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common. i change my xorg.conf file, and i ctrl alt backspace, it stays on a black screen, no mouse or anything...any ideas anyone?04:05
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babob03nto, more like 'safer' ...04:05
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DethKlokI installed apache2 php4 and mysql but when I try a test php page it just prompts me to dl it?04:05
pwkanybody ?04:05
lazzarethDethKlok did you restart apache etc ?04:05
pwki need to get it installed in next 30 mins.. before i go04:05
zoidi79is AIGLX activated by default in edgy?04:05
DaverocksDethKlok: is the page you're trying "index.php"?04:05
CViruspulltab: I gotta go for now .. try #postfix if the problem remains04:05
muthanaDid anyone here speaks Arabic04:05
AlziHey. I am trying to set up a dual-boot system with Windows..... so I first removed Linux and tried to install windows. after some basic formatting and file copying i get the message "error while loading operating system". Can anyone help me with this? Guys, I know this is a windows question but I can't get good support for windows without money, so don't try to be too biased please04:05
pulltabCVirus: Thanks a lot!04:06
DethKlokdaverocks: no its test.php off of the ubuntuguide.org page04:06
DethKloklazzareth: yes04:06
CViruspulltab: no problem04:06
muthanaDid anyone here speaks Arabic04:06
frogzoo!fixgrub04:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fixgrub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:06
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DaverocksDethKlok: hm ok, because sometimes there's that download issue when it's index.php and you try GETting the root04:06
frogzoo!grub04:06
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:06
m14Alzi: have you active partition?04:06
erUSULpwk: what's exactly the problem, you need two partitions (at least) for linux one swap (virtual memory) and one for everything else...04:06
lazzarethDethKlok are you accessing your test.php   by ->   http://localhost/test.php04:06
frogzooAlzi: read about grub ^^^04:06
BiSk-8hello, is there any1 that can give me the name of a prog i can get through apitude or simply download that will let me extract a dvd onto my computer?04:06
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pwki have made a swap part. (9gb's and the main part. to install ubntu (80gb.s)04:07
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sivanghowdy all04:07
sivangcan anybody plesae remind me the locoteams irc channel /04:07
sivang?04:07
kmaynardBiSk-8, automatix has a dvd ripper in it04:07
pwkbut i get to the point in setup where it goes about to mount04:07
Alzifrogzoo: erm.... what does grub have to do with a fresh windows install?04:07
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DethKloklazzareth: yes04:07
m14pwk 9gb too more04:07
triplcwasabi, is there a way to get search the private archive of mailman, please help?04:07
pwki have drop down menus.. that let me select, root, swap.. and other for each part.04:07
BiSk-8kmaynard, thx04:07
zoidi79!aiglx04:07
ubotuAIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.04:07
b03ntobabo, i read some article that say use Tor together with Privoxy, that prevents DNS leaks.. so is that true or bogus ?04:07
sureshotAlzi just put your windows cd in and let it do it thing from start to finish after it is down add what drivers you need then in stall ubuntu in that order04:07
lazzarethDethKlok, Im stumped :P04:07
kmaynardnp04:07
triplcwasabi, if mailman arc can be searched then i'll run mailman04:07
pwkand i need help setting up that part04:08
sivangalso, if there's anyone speaking/reading arabic here, I have an arabic speaker which needs help with some kind of general system error on his system, would appriciate if anybody could help him..04:08
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Ronzhey yall...still having issues with nvidia drivers. i have installed nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common. i change my xorg.conf file, and i ctrl alt backspace, it stays on a black screen, no mouse or anything...any ideas anyone?04:08
DethKloklazzareth: where in apache2 is it set to know php4 is installedd04:08
tinyI've checked CD .. it's valid04:08
Alzifrogzoo: I'm sure the message is from Windows since it's in Dutch and.. "Press any key to boot from cd.. (wait 3 sec) error while loading operating system" is what I get...04:08
m14sivang:  04:08
kmaynardBiSk-8, www.getautomatix.com04:08
babob03nto, not that I'm aware of. There are some hacks out there. But none that work too well ... afaik04:08
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sivangm14: sorry, can't read other then english here04:08
skoldhi i've gota question about beryl: what nvidia driver i need to run it on dapper?04:08
swilliamsonhey all I installed dapper on my dell Latitude Laptop, the only complaint I have is that when I put it on the port replicator, my mouse and keyboard work fine, however I cannot get the display to work on the monitor, only the laptops lcd, any ideas i cannot get an external signal04:08
segfault_Ronz, if no reboot ull likely need to modprobe nvidia before restart x04:09
pwkerUSUL, may i pm you to get help ?04:09
kmaynardRonz, try installing it thru automatix...i swear by it04:09
m14skold: nvidia-glx04:09
SpCombAlzi: try a fixmbr in window's recovery console or perhaps try wiping the drive and installing windows afresh04:09
DaverocksAlzi: i think it's grub... i don't think windows ever says "error loading operating system"04:09
b03ntobabo: anyway i read those article from here http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/howto-anonymous-communication-with-tor-some-hints-and-some-pitfalls04:09
erUSULpwk: better ask the channel at large you willget more help04:09
skoldm14: thx04:09
erUSUL!partitions04:09
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks04:09
segfault_Ronz, also make sure u  have the restricted modules pkg for ur kernel instaled04:09
pwkcan anyone help me out?04:09
sivangm14: will you be able to help him? :)04:09
erUSUL!install04:09
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues04:09
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Ronzsegfault_, im pretty sure i do04:09
DaverocksAlzi: the problem might be that although you formatted partitions and everything, grub is still on the MBR, and it's causing problems booting windows04:10
SpCombAlzi: the windows isntaller should isntall it's own mbr and bootloader, after install windows there shouldn't really be any linux left on there04:10
sidny4pwk, ask your question(s), if someone knows the answer they'll help you out04:10
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Daverocksactually SpComb is right04:10
frogzooAlzi: couple of options - 1-reinstall windows, 2-fix windows MBR, 3-ignore it, install ubuntu, & use grub to boot windows04:10
SpCombAlzi: the fixmbr will make windows write it's mbr to the disk, so you can try that to be sure that it's there04:10
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b03ntobabo, i think that guy pretty paranoid...04:10
segfault_Ronz, try my first suggestion then04:10
SpCombyeah, those three are the options04:10
pwkin setup,  where it asks with those drop down menus to select what each part. is like  swap.. root and stuff like that.. i need help deciding what option to chose for each part.  can anyone help me please ?04:10
nearfar`I installed a few packages using apt-get that also installed some dependent packages. Now, I want 'remove' some of those packages, *including* the dependent packages (safely). So my question is how to find the dependent packages that were installed during the package installation and not used elsewhere?04:11
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Ronzk...hold on segfault_04:11
pwksomebody must know....04:11
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highnekoWhere's screensaver config in gconf-editor for glmatrix?04:12
Alzifrogzoo: Well.. what I did, was I made some partition scheme (from the windows installer, i deleted every partition and made a 40G partition), then selected that, it formatted the drive and copied the files onto it. Said it had to reboot and I got a message telling me i could press any key to boot from the CD... I waited, and i got the message 'Error loading operating system' in Dutch which I think GRUB would never say, except if Ubuntu's version was dutch..04:12
pwk;l04:12
sidny4pwk, do you have partitions already set up? and is this going to be the only OS on the computer04:12
m14pwk: minimize ypu must have / and swap04:12
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segfault_nearfar, try using -s option to apt-get to see what apt will decide if u agree then remove -s option to complete action04:12
pwksidny4,  i have already vista and xp installed,  i have 2 parttions for ubntu, one for swap and other for ubntu04:12
tinyhere we go again04:12
pwki need help with someone guidng me through setup04:13
sidny4ok, swap should be set to swap and ubuntu one should be set up as /04:13
pwktheres drop down menus to select what each partion.. is like root, swap... etc04:13
lazzarethAfter failing to install gaim 2 beta 3.1 (thanks guys) i cant seem to uninstall it.. when Im only using ubuntu repo's & when i use synaptic & $apt-get install -reinstall gaim    it still installs & uses gaim 2.004:13
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pwkand my other part. can be left as the default media thing ?04:13
nearfarsegfault_: NO. removing package A doesn't all remove the dependent packages that were installed previously because of A.04:13
nearfarI want to remove them too!04:13
nearfarbecause they are not used *after* removing A.04:13
frogzooAlzi: this is while installing windows I take it - have you tried rerunning the install ?04:13
sidny4pwk, yup, what you're defining here is basically their mount points04:14
pwkok thxs04:14
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pwkoff agsin to instasll04:14
EkUmBahello04:14
frogzooAlzi: how old's this comp ?04:14
sidny4haha, good luck04:14
pwkjust didn't want to screw anything up04:14
plutoWill I harm anything by running dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg?04:14
Alzifrogzoo: Yes. 3 times, actually.,04:14
segfault_nearfar, that is correct, ull need to do some investigation i.e. apt-cache show pkgA and read the deps, there isnt an easy to do the action you are describing04:14
pwkhopefully after that it installs04:14
maxLFDr_willis: I got it to install, thx. I'm just trying to get the patch runner up now04:14
pwkand hopefully it will still boto vista beta04:14
nearfarsegfault_: :(04:14
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sidny4it should, and it shouldn't affect any other partitions04:14
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pwkthaxs again everybody04:15
baboDoes anyone here have experience with ICQ ?04:15
nearfarbabo: yes04:15
EkUmBai have installed a win program with wine under ubuntu.but when i try to start the exe,the program doesn't find the "real" cd.what to do?...maybe it is becase my cd drive shows a lock as a symbol so the program can't verify it?04:15
babonearfar: can I SMS to an ICQ account on my computer ?04:15
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frogzooAlzi: how old's the computer ?04:15
babonearfar: can I program ICQ to parse incoming text and hand it off to a bash script ?04:16
Gabby_HayesDaverocks  ... from what I can find,  it seems that some packages need all the *-dev files to install properly ... one of the dependencies may be looking for such a  -dev  file  (guesstimate)04:16
nearfarbabo: I dunno. I use gaim for icq. But you can write a gaim plugin to do that (parse incoming text and do whatever).04:16
babonearfar: or maybe just hand it off, with without the parsing ...04:16
DaverocksGabby_Hayes: hmm04:16
nearfarbabo: yes, write a gaim plugin -- gaim.sourceforge.net04:16
babonearfar: can ICQ call up a web plugin ?04:16
nearfarbabo: I don't know much about ICQ :/04:17
Gabby_Hayespwk, my son has  XP-vista beta  &  ubuntu as a dual boot on an AMD64  system04:17
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babonearfar: but I can SMS my ICQ account yes ?04:17
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DaverocksGabby_Hayes: ah, found the problem04:17
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DaverocksGabby_Hayes: ~/.mozilla/ was owned by root04:17
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Alzifrogzoo: Well... old, but I remember Windows used to install before.04:17
nearfar`foo04:18
tkphi guys04:18
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DaverocksGabby_Hayes: chown'ing it fixed it04:18
Gabby_HayesDaverocks  .. great .. post it somewhere ... may help many others  :-)04:18
tkpI'm trying to build the Helix Client on an ubuntu system...04:18
foonearfar`: Yes?04:18
tkpproblem is, Ubuntu has gcc v4.104:18
DaverocksGabby_Hayes: haha ok04:18
DaverocksGabby_Hayes: thx for all the help you gave me04:18
Gabby_HayesDaverocks  .. some of the stuff we overlook at times  ...  :-)04:18
tkpand the helix stuff will only build with 3.x04:18
EkUmBa i have installed a win program with wine under ubuntu.but when i try to start the exe,the program doesn't find the "real" cd.what to do?...maybe it is becase my cd drive shows a lock as a symbol so the program can't verify it?04:19
Daverocksheh04:19
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dragonfire1You will have to run right to the store and buy a version soon as its out.04:19
Gabby_Hayesnp,  Daverocks  .. that's the idea  behind linux04:19
tkpanyone know how I can change the default gcc version that Ubuntu is using?04:19
tkpI could just symlink... but thats a bit lame and anoying04:19
DaverocksGabby_Hayes: yes, community... :D04:19
plutoPlease help: Will I harm anything by running dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg?04:19
tkpwondering if Ubuntu provides a nicer way04:19
frogzooAlzi: couple of things - which version windows ? you could try putting windows on the first partition (xp shouldn't care) - make sure you have LBA enabled in the bios04:19
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frogzoopluto: you may screw up your X, if it's working atm04:19
sidny4EkUmBa, what program is it?04:20
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Alzifrogzoo: Version XP Home.04:20
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tkpanoyingly the Ribosome build system does not honnor the ${CC} env var04:20
plutofrogzoo: my X login screen is oversized, and I cannot reszie.  Will this do the tirck?04:20
tkpI have installedan earlier version of gcc from apt-get04:20
frogzoopluto: yes, if X screws up, you can just restore the backup copy of /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:20
EkUmBasidny4:is it gk1,a program for medicine04:20
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tkpbut how can actually set this as the default compiler?04:20
fraggstaSo is edgy usable as one's primary (ie: sole) desktop now?  Yes I know about the dire warnings in the dev forum but I'm no newbie, I just want to know if things will break constantly if I install edgy.04:21
gandalfcomeEasy question: How can I see what kind of display i'm on in X: 127.0.0.1:?. thanks in advance04:21
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plutofrogzoo: Thanks for your help.04:21
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reymundhello everyone04:21
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m14hi04:21
frogzooAlzi: maybe windows is being painful, check you have LBA enabled in the bios, then install XP on the 1st partion & you should get no complaints04:21
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Ronzyay! i have an error message from xorg!  =)04:21
dragonfire1I will donate to Linux sytems prior to buying any OS04:21
sidny4hmm04:22
Alzifrogzoo: Alright. So fixmbr would fix it?04:22
m14Ronz: good man04:22
Ronz(EE) NVIDIA(0): Version mismatch detected between the NVIDIA X driver and the04:22
Ronz(EE) NVIDIA(0):     NVIDIA GLX module.04:22
Ronzany ideas?04:22
frogzooAlzi: I doubt if, fixmbr will work only once you've done the initial install04:22
m14Ronz: Have you install nvidia driver from nvidia.com?04:23
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Ronzm14, no. i just installed nvidia-glx04:23
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dragonfire1reference to the partion person . I had difficultys in partioning . There is a post somewhere that I read in Oct that there is a bug in the sytem can't remember where I read that in ubuntu04:23
Alzifrogzoo: Dang.04:24
m14Ronz: Did your comment dri in xorg.conf ?04:24
Ronzm14, im pretty sure04:24
Ronzleme double check04:24
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Ronzm14, yes, dri is commented out04:25
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EkUmBasomehow the program is searching for the original disk,t verify it.under winxp it does work,cause i have the original cd.but ubuntu can'T find the cd04:26
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Ronzm14, there was also a section at the end of the xorg.conf file that was "section DRI". i also commented that out04:26
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Evilhello all04:28
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Alzi2Hi again. I am on my server now so i can get support while installing win04:29
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tinythere it goes ... freezed again at installing xserver package .. mofo04:30
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IceZone<--nix newbie:  does the results of cat /proc/cpuinfo showing both processors indicate that ubuntu dapper is running smp ?04:32
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frying_fishIceZone: yes.04:34
EkUmBawhy doesnt wine find my original cd for a program?04:34
sturmhaubehi04:35
denndahi. how may i completely disable edgys keyring manager?04:35
JahmanHi04:35
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D-Line.04:36
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HitchRonz??04:37
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shinobi2for mc, is there a why to show line numbers on the left? as it does for vim, emacs etc...04:37
D-Linehow i do root login04:37
djuussHi, how do i put custom gamma/contrast/brightness settings for my x server?04:37
Ronzyes Hitch ?04:37
Vulc4nhey guys04:37
D-Linesudo passwd root is dont working04:37
Hitchdid your nvidia work? Ronz04:37
jamxD-Line: sudo su04:38
djuussD-Line, try sudo -i and then passwd from there04:38
DaverocksD-Line: sudo -i04:38
TonrenCan anyone tell me how to REMOVE Automatix's Macromedia Flash utilities, and reinstall them manually myself?04:38
TonrenBecause my flash really isn't working.04:38
Ronzno i didn't Hitch . But...i have an error message and can try other idea's.   =)04:38
Ronz(EE) NVIDIA(0): Version mismatch detected between the NVIDIA X driver and the04:38
D-Linesays sorry try again04:38
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Ronz(EE) NVIDIA(0):     NVIDIA GLX module.04:38
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djuussRonz: easy04:38
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Ronzdjuuss, you will be my best friend if i can get this working. Hitch is already one of my hero's.   ;04:39
Ronz*;)04:39
D-Linei dont determine root passwd04:39
Hitchhehe04:39
D-Lineits command dont working04:39
D-Linesays me sorry try again04:39
djuussRonz, clearly your nvidia x driver and nvidia-glx arent the same versions04:40
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DaverocksD-Line: have you got a root shell from "sudo -i"?04:40
Vulc4nI seem to be having a consistent issue with the ubunut/kubuntu live cds04:40
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djuussRonz, could you post your xorg.conf on pastebin?04:40
Vulc4ngnome/KDE don't seem to load correctly04:40
D-Lineyes its working but i dont determine root passwd before04:40
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Ronzdjuuss, how do i go about making them the same version? the way that i understood it was nvidia-glx contains the nvidia driver04:40
djuuss!pastebin > Ronz04:40
Ronzdjuuss, sure04:40
Vulc4nI get a mouse cursor and nothing else04:40
piis there any way to boot my dapper without monitor's cable connected with a resolution 800x600 and not 640x480 (default)04:40
gandalfcomeHow can I see which display I'm on at the moment in X, eg 127.0.0.1:x ?04:40
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D-LineDaverocks okay04:40
Daverocksgandalfcome: echo $DISPLAY04:41
D-Lineworking now thank you04:41
Ronzdjuuss, do you want the xorg file or the Xorg.0.log file?04:41
DaverocksD-Line: np :)04:41
djuussxorg.conf04:41
Ronzok04:41
TonrenCan anyone tell me how to REMOVE Automatix's Macromedia Flash utilities, and reinstall them manually myself?04:41
IceZoneanyone have a good how-to for setting up ubuntu and lvs?04:41
djuussRonz, also, did you edit it manually? And did you apt-get the nvidia drivers, or did you get them off the nvidia website04:41
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DaverocksVulc4n: at least X is starting... is the mouse cursor an X?04:42
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Ronzdjuuss, i edited it manually. used apt to install nvidia-glx, and edited the file with nvidia-glx-config enable. i also tried it manually, with no luck04:42
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Vulc4nDaverocks: yes, it starts as an 'x'04:43
Ronzdjuuss, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26072/04:43
Vulc4nthen changes to a traditional cursor04:43
kyjaTonren, synaptic pachage manager>search>flash Uncheck flash stuff. and check what you want.04:43
DaverocksVulc4n: so _something_ is loading04:43
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neenaofflineI tried installing a package using dpkg , "dpkg -i package.deb"04:43
neenaofflinethat package has a lotta dependencies04:43
Ronzdjuuss, here is the xorg.0.log file also04:43
Ronzhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26073/04:43
neenaofflineit didn't work at that time04:44
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DaverocksVulc4n: have you tried killing X and running gdm manually?04:44
djuussRonz, your xorg.conf is not set up to use the nvidia driver. I see that from the "device" section, it says Driver "nv" instead of "nvidia"04:44
savvasg'day04:44
Vulc4nnope04:44
Vulc4nhow would I go about doing that?04:44
neenaofflinenow if I use "apt-get install somepack" it gives the same dependencies' error04:44
Ronzdjuuss, i changed it back to nv so i can use my computer04:44
Alzi2.04:44
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Tonrenkyja: Does Automatix do anything other than installing packages?04:45
savvascan someone tell me which directory is the gnome menu icons?04:45
neenaofflineeven after restarting or apt-get clean04:45
DaverocksVulc4n: do ctrl-alt-F1 or ctrl-alt-F2 ... you should get a shell04:45
savvaser, not icons, the shortcuts04:45
segfault_Ronz, have ran apt-get update && apt-get upgrade to make sure u have the most recent version of nvidia-glx and kernel/restrictied modules?  also make sure u have booted into the most recent kernel04:45
gandalfcomeDaverocks, okay it worked (forwarding from another machine) before I had dual screen but now it doesnt any idea I use 192.168.0.33:0.004:45
neenaofflineIt says to do04:45
kyjaTonren, no. it installs them thats it. but you should find most things it does install int synaptic.04:45
neenaoffline"apt-get -f install"04:46
DaverocksVulc4n: once you have the shell, do something like "killall gdm; gdm"04:46
Tonrenkyja: Cool, thanks04:46
HitchRonz, when it wasn't nv what was happenning?04:46
neenaofflinebut that prompts me to install the first package04:46
djuussRonz, ah i see :) , well, like the xorg.0.log says, try to re-install everything related to 'nvidia', something has gone wrong when you installed those.04:46
neenaofflinewhich I don't want to install now04:46
kyjanp04:46
neenaofflinewhat do I do ?04:46
RonzHitch, it will just come up to a black screen. i grabbed the error from the second link04:46
Daverocksgandalfcome: ouch... i haven't had much experience with setting up dual-screen in X... i just know the basic $DISPLAY variable lol04:46
Daverocksgandalfcome: sorry :(04:46
gandalfcomeDaverocks,  thanks anyway04:47
Vulc4nDaverocks ctrl + alt + F1 and ctrl + alt + F2 don't seem to work04:47
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pwkhi04:47
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pwki'm back again04:47
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pwknow i having trouble with swap space04:47
djuusshi pwk04:47
DaverocksVulc4n: try ctrl-alt-backspace04:47
Ronzsegfault_, booting 2.6.15-27-386. thats the latest on my box04:47
Ronzdjuuss, i have reinstalled time and time again04:47
pwkwhat do i format the parttion for swap space ?04:47
Vulc4nnegative Daverocks04:47
dotwaffleTHere's a bug in a module of the Edgy kernel, any idea which package I should file a bug to?04:47
pwkand do i need swap parttion where i got 1 gb of ram ?04:47
DaverocksVulc4n: and you can move the mouse cursor?04:47
kyjashame I could not get age of empires to work :-(04:47
djuussRonz, can you pastebin your sources.list?04:47
Vulc4nDaverocks: yep04:48
Ronzpwk, mkswap <partiton>04:48
Ronzswapon <partition04:48
Daverockspwk: i have 1 GB of RAM, but i have 512 swap space anyway :P04:48
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Ronzdjuuss, sure04:48
DaverocksVulc4n: so it hasn't locked up, and you can't switch ttys... weird04:48
segfault_Ronz, have ran apt-get update && apt-get upgrade to make sure u have the most recent version of nvidia-glx?04:48
pwkso in the parttion editor in the installer,  what file system i format the swap part. with ?.... linux-swap.. file system ?04:48
Vulc4nDaverocks: it seems really weird to me too04:48
pwki was gonna do 4 gb swap space.. i must be crazy04:49
Hitchyes linux-swap pwk04:49
visik7!apport04:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apport - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:49
pwkwhen i go about in setup04:49
pwkit goes through install04:49
pwkbut then it asks.. no swap where detected would u,like to continue04:49
djuusslol04:49
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pwkeven though i did slect one04:49
Hitchyeah pwk u must be crazy max 2gb as swap04:49
Vulc4nsame issue in both a kubuntu install and a ubuntu install04:49
segfault_pwk, yes u must be :) 2x ur RAM is generally fine04:49
Vulc4nas well as the live cds04:49
vit_hy all04:49
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pwknot only that04:50
pwkit screwed my part.s up04:50
Daverockspwk: are you sure that the partition you were selecting was formatted as linux-swap?04:50
vit_privet vsem ciuvakam :)04:50
pwkmy vista part. is damaged and no longer boots04:50
Hitchman pwk do a partition which is linux-swap04:50
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Hitchand it will work well04:50
DaverocksVulc4n: what video card do you have?04:50
pwknow i gotta re-install vista04:50
Hitchwindows vista?04:50
yell8w eewwwwwwwwwwww 04:50
pwkyes,04:50
Hitchpwk windows vista?04:50
yell8w did i hear vista ?  04:51
Daverockswhat other vista is there? ;)04:51
yell8w :P 04:51
pwkbut i see the part. mager screwed up some part.s04:51
Hitchlol04:51
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Hitchsee yell8w04:51
vit_mmmm vista !!!04:51
tinystop saying vista04:51
tinyewww04:51
Hitchtell him to reinstall it in the garbage04:51
Daverocksxgl/compiz 0wnz aero glass04:51
pwki'm gonna stop with linux i think04:51
pwktoo hard even to setup04:51
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Daverockslol Hitch04:51
djuusspwk: here, use this04:51
Vulc4nDaverocks: a 7800GT04:51
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pwki lost all my data04:51
DaverocksVulc4n: nvidia, right?04:51
Vulc4nyes04:52
yell8w pwk:  i find the ubuntu setup quite a breeze 04:52
neenaofflineerr04:52
yell8w compared to others 04:52
Hitchman it is too hard to install linux but it is also to hard to install windows each time every 2 months pwk04:52
Vulc4nI don't know if this means anthing... .but to install ubuntu I had to use the safegraphics mode04:52
neenaofflinedid anyone read what I pasted up there ?04:52
DaverocksVulc4n: i would ask you to have a look at xorg.conf, but you can't get a shell :(04:52
Vulc4nand to install kubuntu I had to use the alternate install cd04:52
pwkwhat about i install ubntu first04:52
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pwkthen windows xp and vista ?04:52
Vulc4ncan I boot directly into a shell somehow?04:52
Hitchno pwk04:53
djuusspwk, mnt /dev/null /mnt/windowsvista04:53
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DaverocksVulc4n: i had to use the alternate install CD for ubuntu as well.. but for different reasons... X was fine for me04:53
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Hitchit will be hard to setup the grub pwk04:53
neenaofflinepwk: V**** hates GRB/LILO04:53
pwkso i gotta fix vista before ubuntu goes on ?04:53
neenaoffline*GRUB04:53
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djuussbasically, yes.04:53
neenaofflineyes04:53
pwkgrub won't work with vista ?04:53
Hitchit is better to setup windows first if u always want windows pwk04:53
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Vulc4nDaverocks: well, the live cd for ubuntu actually worked for me in the safe graphics mode04:53
Hitchwell pwk get rid of the vista!!!04:53
DaverocksVulc4n: yep, driver problem04:53
yell8w pwk:  why be a pawn with vista, it is probably not fixed/patched/stable till sp2 comes out  04:53
neenaofflineerr....04:54
neenaofflineI tried installing a package using dpkg , "dpkg -i package.deb" . that package has a lotta dependencies . it didn't work .now if I use "apt-get install somepack" it gives the same dependencies' error . even after restarting or apt-get clean. It says to do "apt-get -f install" . but that prompts me to install the first package , which I don't want to install now . what do I do ?04:54
DaverocksVulc4n: the difference between regular graphics mode and safe graphics mode is that safe uses the generic VESA driver04:54
tinyk .. so I boot of alternate CD ... I see there are install, expert, server, server-expert options that you need to type in at the _prompt_! But where is this prompt! If F6 is pressed I get a prompt but also some options. I tried entering expert at the end of those options but nothing new happened.04:54
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DaverocksVulc4n: whereas regular graphics mode is probably using "nv"04:54
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pwkwhat if i tired a bootloader liek acronics ?04:54
djuusspwk, use different drives, not just partitions for windows/ubuntu, to make sure you dont accidently mess with the wrong partitions04:54
Vulc4nDaverocks: but, at the same time the safe graphicsmode in the kubuntu live cd did nothing04:54
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tinyHow do you select available boot options?04:54
rambo3tiny: boot:04:55
DaverocksVulc4n: that's quite weird04:55
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pwklike could i not install grub,  and have acronis boot up linux and everything ?04:55
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DaverocksVulc4n: afaik, the safe graphics mode in kubuntu uses vesa, like ubuntu04:55
neenaofflinepwk: does acronics let you setup a background ?04:55
neenaofflinelol04:55
tinyrambo3: huh?04:55
pwkk04:55
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pwkguess i might install ubuntu.. i want too04:55
Vulc4nDaverocks: it is weird... I have no idea whats going on04:55
rambo3tiny is there a "boot : " prompt04:55
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pwki'm in xp now04:56
DaverocksVulc4n: my knowledge is quite limited ;)04:56
pwkwhere vista won't go past boot screen anymore04:56
Vulc4ncan I do anything from the grub command ine?04:56
tinyrambo3: nope04:56
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Vulc4nDaverocks: its clearly abit more extensive than mine04:56
Vulc4nall my experience lies in windows04:56
pwkthe 5.10 version was easier to install04:56
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yell8w pwk: again, why be a pawn with vista, it is probably not fixed/patched/stable till sp2 comes out  ? 04:56
djuusspwk, you do actually get the boot screen with vista? like, some windows logo with a progress bar i'd imagine?04:56
DaverocksVulc4n: yeah... unfortunately you do get all these hitches with linux in general... you have to get used to solving them :(04:57
pwkdjuuss, yes i do04:57
pwkbut after boot screen it stops loading04:57
pwkand my part. mager tells me it go dmaged04:57
rambo3tiny what are you trying to install04:57
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pwkso, i need directions on what to do04:57
pwkwhat u guys think04:57
pwkanyway of keeping vista too ?04:58
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pwklike use a different boot manger?04:58
Vulc4nDaverocks: I booted to a command line I think04:58
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yell8w pwk:  did you get on this xp session using grub ? 04:58
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Vulc4nwhat do I need to do to look at that log?04:58
DaverocksVulc4n: ah, by changing kernel boot options? heh, why did i not think of that... :D04:58
tinyrambo3: I'm trying to install basic system and then install shit step by step ... but I can't get to the point when you choose packages04:58
djuusspwk, ubuntu bootloader (grub) plays nice with Windows, just make sure you dont hose your vista installation while installing ubuntu04:58
neenaofflinepwk: IIRC you can install GRUB without reinstalling the OS04:58
rambo3tiny thats server install04:58
Vulc4nDaverocks: yeah... I figured I'd give it a try04:59
micky2hello all :)04:59
pwkso i can fix vista and then when vista gets it bootloader04:59
pwktry ubuntu again ?04:59
djuusspwk, in short: Re-install vista, map out the partition setup you want before starting the ubuntu install, and be careful during partitioning.04:59
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JimmeyAre there any programs I can use to record what goes on on my Desktop?04:59
pwki'll have it on my second hard drive04:59
djuusspwk, then it should be a walk in the park.. well, ok, swamp.04:59
pwkand i'll come here in windows to get help setting it up04:59
yell8w lol djuuss 04:59
tinyIf f1 is pressed you get:  install, expert, server, server-expert options that you need to type in at the _prompt_!05:00
tinyrambo3:05:00
pwkgoing to setup vista again05:00
pwkbbl05:00
pwkthxs guys05:00
djuussgl05:00
b03ntoJimmey: i heard istanbul did that, but i never use it05:00
savvaswhat's the directory of the gnome menu?05:00
Jimmeyb03nto, thanks - I just did an apt-cache search, and that looks like my best bet05:00
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yell8w djuuss:  where's the "swamp" part comes from ? 05:00
Daverocksyell8w: i think it makes it more difficult to walk. xD05:00
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apecathmm, will ubuntu egdy have biarch support on amd64?05:01
yell8w lol  05:01
tinyI just hate "smart" installers05:01
djuussyell8w,.. running Vista.05:01
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rambo3spellchecker for x-chat too05:02
micky2i am trying to install this multiverse package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/libmotif3 . I have enabled the multiverse packages in adapt but when I type in "libmotif3" in adept's search box, no hits are found. If I try it manually "apt-get install libmotif3" it also doesnt work: " E: Couldn't find package libmotif3". Could someone help me out?05:02
dragonfire1905:02
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yell8w djuuss:  i thought u're talking about ubuntu  05:02
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kekoshi05:02
yell8w hi kekos 05:02
Ronzso after the network reset and much yelling / cursing, Ronz is back05:03
Ronz!pastebin > ronz05:03
shuanhello05:03
Toppyand the nvidia is it there yet Ronz?05:03
Ronznot yet, Toppy05:03
shuani have jus tried kubuntu05:03
dbinghammicky2: have you done "sudo apt-get update"?05:03
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kekosca you help me?? i'm trying to install the drivers for my ati x140005:03
kekosbut05:04
shuannow im thinking of going back to ubuntu05:04
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pwkhi guys05:04
micky2dbingham: yes thats the first thing i did05:04
Toppyhi pwk05:04
pwkguess what.. it booted vista for some reason05:04
pwknow,05:04
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pwki need help setting up ubuntu05:04
djuussyell8w, well, ofc there is the swampy part that grub might not setup vista correctly, accesing your windows files on ubuntu, hosing your windows partitions by writing to NTFS from ubuntu and getting unlucky...05:04
Ronzok, i forget who was helping me before...but heres the pastebin of sources.lst05:04
Daverockslol05:04
Ronzhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26078/05:04
Toppywe're here to help and get hep pwk05:04
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kekosi cannot because the system is telling me that i have to execute that application as superuser05:05
dbinghammicky2: the other thing that comes to mind is that sometimes the package name isn't what you'd expect.  Try "apt-cache search libmotif3" and see if anything looks relevant.05:05
sportmanwhat drivers would work best with my ati960005:05
pwkok, will just try it out i guess05:05
kekosand there is no way to do it05:05
sportmanits a mobility05:05
hawkaloogiekekos, sudo <command>05:05
Ronzkekos, use sudo <command>05:05
pwkdo i need swap space ?05:05
micky2dbingham: ok trying now05:05
tinypwk: ask specific questions05:05
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tinypwk: yes05:05
tinyyou do05:05
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Toppyyes u need swap space pwk05:05
pwkok, can i launch ubuntu setup via windows ?05:05
kekosi have tried but it doesn't work05:05
micky2dbingham: no hits :(05:05
yell8w djuuss:  k 05:05
dbinghammicky2: the last part of the "apt-cache search _______" is actually a regular expression, so if you still can't find it, you might be able to get creative with your search and pull something out.05:05
Tussiushey all05:06
ToppyNO pwk05:06
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kekosi executed sudo sh ./ati..........05:06
Toppyu should boot from ur cd pwk05:06
pwkok05:06
Daverockspwk: no, you need to boot from the ubuntu CD05:06
tinypwk: don't know stoped using windoze 8 years ago05:06
kekosand it tells me05:06
djuussRonz, in your sources.list, uncomment the last two lines, then run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get install05:06
pwkcan anyone tell me what to do at each option and i'll write it down.. so i don't screw up ?05:06
Ronzdj_baggio, ok05:06
kekosthat it doesn't recognise that command05:06
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djuussBe right back, 20 minutes, gotta get some food etc05:06
TussiusI have a question (like so many other linux noobs)05:07
pwkbbl05:07
pwkgotta get dinner too05:07
dbinghammicky2: other than that, I'm not sure what to tell you.  If you can find the package online, you can try to just download it and install it manually with dpkg.05:07
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pwkthis is a headacke05:07
Toppywell pwk at first u chose your language and location and then your keyboard05:07
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wickedpuppypwk, if you want this to be exact science you will never learn anything .. you will always be asking here for questions05:07
micky2dbingham: nada nothing ... surely if its shown here http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/libmotif3 it should appear under apt?05:07
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Tussiushow do I get my ATI Radeon mobility's TV-out to work?05:07
Ronzdjuuss, "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.05:07
Ronz"05:07
micky2dbingham: yeah i think i will need to do it manuall05:07
tinypwk: how about readin install docs05:07
kekosca you help me?? i'm trying to install the drivers for my ati x140005:07
pwkok, then when it goes for the part. part. what i do ?05:07
micky2dbingham: *manually05:07
Vulc4nokay05:07
pwkwheres insok05:07
oneseventeenI'm trying to get samba working, and I keep getting "command not found" when I try to execute "wbinfo -u"05:07
pwkgoing to try05:07
pwkbbl05:07
kekosi cannot because the system is telling me that i have to execute that application as superuser05:07
kekosand there is no way to do it05:08
dbinghammicky2: sometimes thats faster than trying to muck around with apt.  =)05:08
Ronzkekos, use sudo <install>05:08
oneseventeenhow do I install wbinfo for Ubuntu, is it available for Ubuntu?05:08
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Toppythen when u r up to the partitioner chose to manually edit partition table and then u make a big partition with an ext3 format and mount point /05:08
Vulc4nI need someone who can help me figure out how to install graphics drivers that will work05:08
Toppypwk05:08
dbinghamI am trying to do X11 forwarding using my ubuntu install as the server, but when I ssh in with ssh -Y, the DISPLAY variable isn't being set.  I do have 'X11Forwarding yes' in my sshd_config.  Any ideas what might be wrong?05:08
kekosRonz, it didnt work05:08
segfault_kekos, sudo -i, will give u a root cmd prompt then exec ur cmd05:08
Toppypwk then when u r up to the partitioner chose to manually edit partition table and then u make a big partition with an ext3 format and mount point /05:08
micky2dbingham: ok thanks for the help05:08
dbinghammicky2: sure05:08
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Toppyand another partition as linux-swap make it at max 2gb pwk05:09
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kekosthanks segfault_05:09
Toppyand u finish as easy as that pwk05:09
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Ronzany idea djuuss ?05:09
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DJ_DanniHello05:10
micky2dbingham: haha http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-91929.html :)05:10
DJ_DanniI have a Trabole to installing Mysql she say she cannoat find MySQL.05:10
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tuxedo_bertopengnew comer....05:10
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dbinghammicky2: heh.  Good to know you aren't alone.05:11
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DJ_DanniAnny idear what i can do?05:11
fayezhi, I am new to Ubuntu. I installed a library (libusb) through synaptic. But when compiling my c program that depends on this, i get error: undefined reference to [..symbols..]  - can someone help me?05:11
wickedpuppyDJ_Danni, how did you find mysql ?05:11
wickedpuppyfayez, are you programming c ?05:12
DJ_DanniWhat do you mean?05:12
fayezyeah05:12
Ronzfayez, try g++05:12
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wickedpuppyDJ_Danni, how do you know mysql can't be found ?05:12
wickedpuppyRonz, g++ is for c++05:12
wickedpuppyfayez, i would as in ##C ...05:12
DJ_DanniE: Package mysql has no installation candidate05:12
wickedpuppy*ask05:12
Ronzwickedpuppy, you can use a flag to compile ni c05:12
Ronz*in05:12
DJ_Dannithis error do i get05:12
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fayezwhoa, i'm a bit confused05:13
oneseventeenHow do I find out website visitors' Active Directory Username on my Ubuntu webserver without requiring them to log in to the website?  (transparent authentication)05:13
wickedpuppyDJ_Danni, apt-cache search mysql-server05:13
fayezi did an 'nm' on my libusb.so and found symbols that my prog is looking for05:13
stojancehow can I strip ubuntu, probably xubuntu so I can use it for apache's httpd without any desktop enviroment, text mode like only, so I can use it on a 16MB RAM machine, laptop05:13
POVaddctfayez: add -lusb when linking05:13
wickedpuppyfayez, ask in ##C ... they got C pros there ...05:13
fayezPOVaddct: okay! i'll try that05:13
reitzellis there a good x app to monitor who is currently logged into your system?05:14
cpk2stojance: if you get the alternate install then it doesnt install x at all I believe05:14
fayezok thanks wicked05:14
tinyAny devs around?05:14
stojanceyes but I need at least a terminal05:14
stojance?05:14
stojanceanit I05:14
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wickedpuppyof course ...05:14
cpk2stojance: you get a terminal no matter what05:14
DJ_DanniIs this a command i shut use or what or how can i install Mysql in othere way?05:15
tuxedo_bertopengshit....ga bsahabat bgt.....05:15
b03ntoreitzell: something like "who" ?05:15
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b03nto!id05:15
reitzellyeh thanks... I know that one :)05:15
ubotujoin ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia05:15
wickedpuppyDJ_Danni, apt-cache search mysql-server .. what does it show ?05:15
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stojanceand i can still do mkdir and such commands right05:15
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wickedpuppystojance, yes ... bash shell will still be available05:15
cpk2stojance: of course, without x means that you will only have a terminal, all the linux stuff will stuff work05:16
MystaMaxhello, after updating my kernel vmware is not working. Its asking for the directory of C heaer files that matching my kernel? how do I find this information?05:16
cpk2will still work*05:16
DJ_Dannithis mysql-server - mysql database server binaries05:16
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tuxedo_bertopeng\j semarang05:16
stojanceok tnx05:17
wickedpuppyDJ_Danni, isn't it what you want ? sudo apt-get install mysql-server05:17
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tinyIs there a way to choose packages at the beginning of the ubuntu install process?05:17
erezi have a problem in upgrading to edgy, is it the right channel?05:17
DJ_DanniThere it is05:17
DJ_DanniThang aloat05:17
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wickedpuppyerez, #ubuntu+105:17
DJ_DanniI was using a Wrong Command al long:D05:17
AsheDcomputer clocks are based off Jan 1. 1970, or something, right?05:17
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jon_hey, is there a repository with gnome 2.16 for dapper?05:17
wickedpuppyDJ_Danni, no ... wrong package name05:17
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Ronzhey...still having nvidia problems. "version mismatch detected between the nvidia x driver and nvidia glx module." anyone have any ideas?05:18
jon_AsheD: yes indeed05:18
DJ_DanniMean that05:18
tinyAsheD: right .. unix time05:18
tinystarts there05:18
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micky2dbingham: wh00t ... found it its under archive but not under gb.archive :D05:18
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AsheDI was explaining to a friend why our bot was acting a bit odd05:18
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AsheD<@Buculae> New channel peak by |bah|Wolfi: 8, last peak was set 13430d 12:32:25 ago by catze|afk05:18
DJ_DanniHey what shut i chose No Configration, Internet Site, Internet with Smarthost?05:18
zygisis anyone on edgy and experiencing gnome-panel crashes after today's upgrade?05:19
DJ_DanniWhat shut i chose?05:19
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wickedpuppyDJ_Danni, you get this from mysql-server install ?05:20
jon_there a repository for gnome 2.16?05:20
DJ_DanniYeas05:20
DJ_DanniUbuntu Configration05:20
cpk2DJ_Danni: why are you trying to use mysql if you dont know how to use it?05:20
wickedpuppyDJ_Danni, ah what do you use it for ?05:20
DJ_DanniI know how to use it05:20
wickedpuppycpk2, he is trying to install it05:20
DJ_DanniI using it for Webserver05:20
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DJ_DanniWith Databases05:21
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DJ_DanniWhat sut i chose?05:21
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wickedpuppyDJ_Danni, ah i have no idea what i chose ... choose one ?05:21
DJ_Danniok05:21
wickedpuppyDJ_Danni, after all .. there is only 3 choices ... at most you install 2 more times05:22
wickedpuppylol05:22
DJ_Danniok goat it;(05:22
DJ_Danni;)05:22
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REAL_FLEODoes somebody know how to know if my wireless card is properly installed on an inpiron 8500 and dapper05:22
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jrblI am hoping someone can tell me the name of the application that gets the pictures from your camera when you plug it in, in Dapper+.05:23
cpk2I also think there are packages you can get in the repos that will auto generate your tables and stuff too if thats what you want to do05:23
IceZoneanyone have a good how-to for setting up ubuntu and lvs?05:23
cpk2REAL_FLEO: it show up on lspci?05:23
runenesCan I update from warty to edgy safely?05:24
jrblWhen I had Dapper installed, my digital camera worked perfectly.  But since upgrading to Edgy, when I plug in my camera, nothing much happens.05:24
REAL_FLEOwhat's lspci ?05:24
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DJ_Danniok woork GRATE but have to Enebale Root Password to phpmyadmin05:24
jrblrunenes, I think you can only go from dapper to edgy safely.05:24
tinyREAL_FLEO: man lspci05:24
DaverocksREAL_FLEO: it's a command that lists all PCI devices05:24
REAL_FLEOok wait05:24
gumby600mHow do I burn a CD with a 600 mb *.toast file.?05:24
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t-k-fugumby600m: rename it .iso, burn normally05:25
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runenesjrbl, so, should I first update to hoary, then dapper, then edgy?? :)05:25
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REAL_FLEO0000:02:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless  LAN Controller (rev 02)05:25
tinygumby600m: iso file?05:25
THX-1138t-k-fu: There is no extra information in the .toast extension?05:25
REAL_FLEOok so I guess it's the driver05:26
t-k-fuTHX-1138: nope, it's a straight-up iso05:26
THX-1138C-o-o-l05:26
jrblrunenes, I'm not sure.  I don't know if you can go from warty->dapper safely.  If so, then that would be the intermediate step I would prefer.05:26
t-k-fuor at least it was as of the last time i used a mac about a year ago05:26
t-k-fudon't imagine they've changed it since then05:26
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sportmangrrr05:26
tinygumby600m: if it's iso file do something like: /usr/bin/cdrecord -v gracetime=2 dev=/dev/hdx speed=48 -dao -eject -data isofile.iso  ... wher hdx stands for cdrom device ..  replace x with a,b,c,d05:26
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gumby600mAhh.. I didn't know a toast is an iso...05:26
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gumby600mtiny:  thanks!05:27
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runenesjrbl, ok, thanks I'm gonna just try and see what happenes. doubt my home dir will be lost.. hopefully :)05:27
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jrblrunenes, good luck.05:27
THX-1138!backup05:27
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi05:27
DJ_DanniHey where do i go agen if i am gooing to chance the password to phpmyadmin?05:28
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oneseventeenhow do I get "wbinfo" to work on Ubuntu 6.06?05:28
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sportman./ati-installer.sh: 176: Syntax error: Bad substitution05:28
sportman:(05:28
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lupine_85sportman: try "bash ati-installer.sh"05:28
bthorntonGot an Edgy question; what's the channel?05:28
sportmanlupine_85:05:29
THX-1138#ubuntu+105:29
lupine_85if that doesn't work, then temporarily change /bin/sh to point to /bin/bash#05:29
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bthorntonTHX-1138: THX.05:29
ZaggynlAnyone knows a GUI frontend to lsof? I've been googling around for a while now, but couldn't find anything working :<05:29
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sportmanfirst i run sh installer.bin05:29
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sportmanand then it autoruns that sh command05:29
sportman:(05:29
gumby600mtiny:  How do I determine which hd* is my cdrom/burner?05:29
tinyshout to alternate CD makers! FIX the F1-F3 menu!05:29
lupine_85sh = dash in edgy - hence the error05:29
sportmanand it automatically deletes the temporary directory05:29
tinyshout to alternate CD makers! FIX the F1->F3 menu!05:29
lupine_85so change sh to point to bash temporarily, and all is well05:29
THX-1138Zaggen - maybe zenity???05:29
sportmanhow would i do that?05:30
gumby600mtiny: I have hda,b,c,d in my /dev directory05:30
segfault_lupine_85, really? what big change05:30
ZaggynlTHX-1138, zenity?05:30
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lupine_85an example would be sudo mv /bin/sh /bin/sh.old && ln -s /bin/bash /bin/sh05:30
lupine_85erm, another sudo after the &&05:30
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tinygumby600m: do you have /etc/fstab ?05:30
lupine_85it's a PITA and breaks many packages05:30
tinycof course you have one05:30
gumby600mtiny: yes05:30
tinycheck it for lines with cdrom05:30
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THX-1138Zaggynl: simple scripting for a linux gui to any command.05:30
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lupine_85of course, this should really be in #ubuntu+1 ;)05:31
t-k-fugumby600m: dapper mounts the cdrom to /media/cdrom;you could use that05:31
segfault_lupine_85, hmm yeah seems quite odd05:31
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ZaggynlTHX-1138, sweet, thanks05:31
lupine_85!info dash edgy05:31
ubotudash: The Debian Almquist Shell. In component main, is required. Version 0.5.3-3ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 82 kB, installed size 204 kB05:31
lupine_85!info bash edgy05:31
ubotubash: The GNU Bourne Again SHell. In component main, is required. Version 3.1-5ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 771 kB, installed size 1852 kB05:31
lupine_85dash is "better" for command line (has cooler autocompletion), but it breaks many scriptsd05:32
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tinygumby600m: or do: dmesg | grep hd[a,b,c,d]  | grep CD05:32
sportmanxorg is 7.1.105:32
gumby600mtiny: thanks!05:33
sportmanis that too new for the proprietary linux driver05:33
sportman?05:33
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tinygumby600m: did you find it?05:33
gumby600mtiny: yes.. via dmesg:  it's hdac05:33
tinyhdac?05:34
tinycant be05:34
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gumby600mtiny: oops. i mean, "hdc"05:34
tinyok05:34
tinytry birning the image now05:34
tiny*burning05:34
gumby600mI am...05:34
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tinygumby600m: you can use k3b gui also for burning CDs/DVDs but I like it this way ... much faster05:35
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gumby600mtiny:   Yeah, seems like this is easier once I remember the syntax.  I tried xcdroast, but the gui was confusing05:36
tinyyou can put that in a shel script05:36
tinylike this:05:36
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tinyhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/BkzsCb33.html05:37
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tinyIs there a way to pick installed packages before install process starts in Ubuntu?05:39
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tinyor .. Is there a way to pick packages that will get installed before install process starts in Ubuntu?05:40
eugmanHow can I save the output of festival to a sound file?05:40
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stjepan!aiglx05:41
ubotuAIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.05:41
stjepan!xgl05:41
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems05:41
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stjepan!r30005:42
stjepananyone here uses r300 drivers?05:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about r300 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:42
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stjepanI mean opensource R300 DRI drivers for ATI Radeon >= 9600 cards05:43
kosnickhas anyone installed mplayer in ubuntu?05:43
Daverocks!anyone05:43
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?05:43
xavDaverocks, :)05:43
Daverocks:D05:43
xavyou stole it from me05:43
Daverockshaha sorry =)05:43
kosnickdaverocks : i search the synaptic and i onpy find kmplayer???05:44
eugmankosnick, a search at wiki.ubuntu.com should givr you alot of information if you just want to know how.\05:44
xavkosnick, it isn't in main repo05:44
kosnickxav : i have installed all the repos05:44
Daverockskosnick: i haven't had that much experience with ubuntu packages.. other people would be able to help you better05:44
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xav!mplayer05:44
ubotumplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile05:44
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ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.05:44
kosnickdaverocks : ok05:44
IceZone!LVS05:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about LVS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:45
THX-1138xav you can pipe the bot replies   !<item> > <nick>05:45
xavTHX-1138, oh right, thanks05:45
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eugmanI need some help with festival05:46
Jhonny1009hello all05:46
eugmanHello05:47
Jhonny1009where can I find what software is included in the original cd?05:47
kosnickwell i THOUGHT i had all the repos installed .... anyway thx guys05:47
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eugmanJhonny1009, Well I think that there .manifest files that are on the same site as the cd files would have a file list but I'm sure there is a better way.05:48
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Jhonny1009thx eugman, i'll check it out05:49
mrmknethi there05:49
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THX-1138irssi and screen - still a bit shakey. - sry.   really handy for searching answers if you record the channel05:49
eugmanmrmknet, if you have a problem feel free to ask it.05:49
mrmknetI want to enter the world of linux05:49
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mrmknetsome friends recommended ubuntu05:49
jadacyrusReally wierd, normal and beta nvidia drivers cause my screen to bug out and turn completely white after a couple minutes of use..(Nvidia GO 7400) (Edgy)05:49
mrmknetcan i install it beside windows?05:49
eugmanmrmknet, yes you can have both ont he same computer . It's called dual-booting.05:50
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RogerBaconmrmknet : yes with grub (is a bootloader)05:50
mrmknetis the boot loader configured automatically during installation?05:50
eugmanHave you backed up your essential files? Murphey's law is in effect when resizing partitions. Yes grub is configured on installation.05:50
savvasI've install linux-k7 successfully, can i remove linux-386 with --purge?05:50
RogerBaconmrmknet : normaly yes05:50
savvas*installed05:50
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mrmknetdoes ubutu supports the hyper-threading processors?05:51
RogerBaconmrmknet : yes05:51
THX-1138 smp kernels05:51
mrmknetis arabic supported?05:51
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kashmrmknet: no, arabs suck.05:52
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kashindians are better.05:52
THX-1138arabic - yes, Ubuntu includes support for everything.05:52
kashthus Devanagari is better.05:52
RogerBaconyes, chek this : https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-ol10n-ar05:52
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kashfoad, arab!05:52
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mrmknetcan you be more decent05:53
mrmknet?05:53
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eugmankash, yeah that was a bit sophmoric.05:53
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kashsorry.05:53
kashi mean.. foad, towel-head.05:53
RogerBacon.... Wellcome to Ubuntu Arabic Translators team : https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-ol10n-ar (for more info)05:53
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kashmrmknet: are you a terrorist?05:54
eugmankash stop being an idiot05:54
Daverockskash, shut up05:54
kasheugman: stop being a bitchtits.05:54
RogerBaconkash : rolf05:54
b03ntoyeah kash shut up05:54
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kashroger05:54
RogerBaconkash : lol, bann kash05:54
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mrmknetKash: I think it is better not to talk with someone like you.05:55
b03ntokash:whats wrong with u, to much media..?05:55
THX-1138lol - all arabs, persians are related to terorists. - you 'mericans are laughable.05:55
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kashmrmknet: then fucking ignore me, you shit-on-a-stick.05:55
vladashello05:55
vladaswhat can i do to make my internet work normal05:55
kashTHX-1138: i'm just trolling. and i'm not american :p05:55
boink!language05:55
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:55
kash< Indian.05:55
vladasit's working very slow, while it should be alot better that it is right now05:55
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boinkc'mon, kiddies .. let's stay on topic05:55
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jadacyrusAnyone here have a nvidia go 7400 ?05:56
THX-1138boink - Thanks - quite right.05:56
kashindia should fucking bomb all of the middle east.05:56
eugmanCan anyone tell me how to store the output of festival05:56
boinkI was wondering if one is meant to use http://localhost:631/ ?05:56
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yokobrhey folks05:56
vladasanyone?05:56
THX-1138eugman - give me a sec. do you need a gui?05:56
boinkor is the intension that you only use the printer thing05:56
kosnick"best" audio player?05:56
yokobri need libstdc++.so.505:56
cpk2vladas: i think you need to be a bit more specific05:56
RogerBaconvlads : do you use firefox ?05:57
vladasyeah05:57
boinkthere are many audio players out there05:57
RogerBaconvlads : try to disable ipv605:57
boinkxmms is a nice one, but somewhat old now05:57
kosnickboink : like ? amarok maybe?05:57
eugmanThx-1138, No I've been able to use festival --tts sucessfully and just want to save the result now.05:57
vladashow?05:57
boinkamarok, sure05:57
kosnickboink : good one?05:57
boinktry them all and see which one you like05:57
boinkxmms is good05:57
kosnickboink : ok thx05:57
segfault_boink, that page for setting up cupsd, ubuntu has some patches to make that not work as expected, so u use the printer thing, see the forums for solution if u want to use cups interface05:57
boinkbut the problem is that it's a little aged05:57
cpk2i just started amorok from xmms and am really impressed with amorok05:58
boinkok05:58
cpk2amarok too05:58
RogerBaconvlad : in adress bar : about:config and search ipv6 and enable it05:58
vladashow can i disable ipv6 in firefox?05:58
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vladasok thanks05:58
boinkit was a little confusing .. should I use cups or the printer thing05:58
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THX-1138eugman - ok, - i didn't see your reply. was going to suggest audacity05:58
THX-1138brb05:58
RogerBaconvlads : let me know if it work05:58
boinkcpk2: ta for the tip05:58
segfault_boink, its personal preference i like the cups interface05:58
Turki_Al-MarriHi, does any body know which repository contains KDevelop?05:59
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boinkI'm just used to using the cups internet05:59
vladasRogerBacon: I think it works:) thanks:)05:59
boinkduh .. interface05:59
cpk2boink: not to mention amarok is good if you have a HUGE library since it uses a sql db so you dont get the slowdown from your list like xmms does05:59
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yokobrguys, im trying to run unreal 2004, but asks for libstdc++.so.505:59
eugmanTurki, I can take a quick look if you'd like05:59
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segfault_boink, then go for it05:59
RogerBaconvladas : no problem :D05:59
Turki_Al-Marrieugman: thanks05:59
yokobr guys, im trying to run unreal 2004 on ubuntu 64 bit, but asks for libstdc++.so.505:59
eugmanturki, universe it looks like.06:00
jadacyrusReally wierd, normal and beta nvidia drivers cause my screen to bug out and turn completely white after a couple minutes of use..(Nvidia GO 7400) (Edgy)06:00
boinkwhat's the .deb called for beep media?06:00
IceZoneanyone up on clustering?06:00
THX-1138eugman - audacity has command line arguments. - there are easier ways if all you need is a bash script. check sysnaptic for  "recording"06:00
Hitchsudo apt-get install libstdc++.so.506:00
eugmanboink, you mean timidity?06:00
joffhi guys nobody coul help me with  a Aspire 5020 and a bcm4318?06:00
Hitchyokobr, sudo apt-get install libstdc++.so.506:00
kashQ: Why was stonehenge abandoned?06:00
THX-1138s/sysnaptic/synaptic/g06:00
kashA: It wasn't IBM-compatible.06:00
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yokobrfound nothing06:01
segfault_yokobr, apt-cache search libstdc++06:01
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b03nto<yokobr> sudo apt-get install libstdc++506:01
eugmanTHX-1138, is it possible to pipe the output from festival to audacity like one might with normal text and the | operator?06:01
segfault_YogSothoth, Hitch that is a file name not a pkg name06:01
boinkI mean the beep-media-player06:01
THX-1138eugman - I haven't tried that. - sorry.06:02
joffhi guys nobody coul help me with  a Aspire 5020 and a bcm4318?06:02
yokobrstill installed06:02
eugman!patience06:02
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines06:02
segfault_yokobr, that will just show u the available pkg names matching ur search, pick one and apt-get install it06:03
THX-1138everything in linux is either a file or a stream. - worth a try06:03
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b03ntomy aterm font is messy, is there anyway to fix it ?06:04
Gavrilahello,is there any repository for gnome 2.16 on dapper?06:05
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johnjosephbachirhi... could someone direct me to the documentation regarding upgrading a system using apt-get?06:05
Gavrilaman apt-get?06:05
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Turki_Al-MarriUse synaptic, easier06:06
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johnjosephbachiri mean, upgrading from breezy to dapper06:06
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cpk2Turki_Al-Marri: all personal preference, I think apt-get is easier =P06:06
jack24hi guys does ubuntu live cd support centrino wireless ipw220006:06
Turki_Al-Marrijack24:yes06:06
Daverocksjohnjosephbachir: then you'll need a dapper install CD (i think)06:06
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Turki_Al-MarriI'm running it06:06
Gavrilalook for dapper source.list on google (and into unbuntu.org)06:06
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Gavrilaanyway no one using gnome 2.16 on dapper?06:07
paul0hi, anyone can access the url http://www.makira.com.br/ ?06:07
melonsorry for jumping in with another problem.. is it possible to see what programs are running? if so.. how?06:07
jadacyrusIs there a way I can log what happening in my X server before it crashes?06:07
johnjosephbachirand also where can i see what packages are available on dapper before i upgrade?06:07
kyjaso ummmmm. There is no way for me to play Age of Empire with wine aye?06:07
LjLmelon: "ps aux"06:07
Gavrilamelon ps aux06:07
paul0i've installed firefox, but my brother just can't open this url06:07
Turki_Al-Marrimelon: ps -A06:07
raghu206how is Gizmo different from other IM?06:07
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jack24http://ftp.ticklers.org/releases.ubuntu.org/releases/6.06/06:08
jack24is the live cd the desktop cd?06:08
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melonthanks :)06:08
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fatbrain!ntfs06:08
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse06:08
Hitchhas anyone tried firefox 2 RC2 on linux06:08
Turki_Al-Marrijack24: the liveCD is the installCD06:08
fatbrain!fuse06:08
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse06:08
Hitch??06:08
jack24Turki_Al-Marri i have the alternate cd would this work06:09
kishoreubotu, gizmo06:09
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gizmo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:09
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Turki_Al-MarriI suppose the drivers are the same06:09
jadacyrusIs there a way I can log what happening in my X server before it crashes?06:09
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apokryphosjadacyrus: X log is in /var/log06:09
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jadacyrusk06:09
jack24Turki_Al-Marri but would it work as a live cd with a desktop inteface?06:09
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mAIJKWhats wrong with my ubuntu? I have 100Mbit ISP but I cant download faster then 10kbit/sek ?? Strange!06:10
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DaverocksmAIJK: what are you downloading _from_?06:10
mAIJKFtp/http/torrents06:10
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cpk2jack24: the alternate cd is not the live cd06:10
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mAIJKI download Nvidia drivers from nvidia now in 3.5kb/sek06:11
mAIJKFirefox06:11
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jack24cpk2 the desktop cd is the live cd?06:11
cpk2jack24: yeah06:11
jack24thx06:11
apokryphos!live06:11
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jack24so i cant do it from alternate06:12
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cpk2you cant run off the cd to make sure your system will work right out the box, no06:12
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Blippei got two Xsessions running with the same username, and want to "steal" one program from one to the other, is that possible?06:12
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piI want to start my dapper without monitor's cable, but not to 640x480! Any idea?06:13
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THX-1138Blippe - short answer yes. - lo-o-ng arcane explanation and demeonstration of dust unix commands. make it for most (like me impossible)06:14
BlippeTHX-1138, wonderful... I will start researching the matter instantly06:14
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THX-1138Blippe - if memory serves. chgrp was one of those dusty commands06:15
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ShackJackAnyone here have any luck getting ATI drivers going under edgy?06:16
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ShackJackTried everything, but DRI won't initialize.... Reads openmesa06:17
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neenaofflineI did "gphotofs /media/cam/" and then "cd /media/cam/" then "ls" and I get  "ls: reading directory .: Numerical result out of range"06:17
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monkey89with mythtv/edgy, i cant seem to get recorded streams to play - mythweb just says the file "does not exist in the recordings directory."06:18
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ShackJackAnyone? Of 950 ppl - anyone?06:19
THX-1138monkey89 - Can i ask you an unrelatted question? - What app is best for reording from the command line?06:19
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eugman!patience06:19
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines06:19
monkey89THX-1138: since i have a pvr-150 i can just do cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg or something like that.06:19
psyoptikI am having trouble setting up an NX server on my system. When I try to install or query the status of the server I get the error06:20
psyoptik"NX> 900 ssh: connect to host 127.0.0.1 port 22: Connection timed out" or "NX> 700 WARNING: NX> 203 NSSH running with pid:7672 .sh: connect to host 127.0.0.1 port 22: Network is unreachable". Any help?06:20
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monkey89THX-1138: cron for timed recordings.  if i need command line im not fancy06:20
eugmanIs there a comand line program which can capture the sound output to the speakers?06:20
THX-1138monkey89 - That is great - Thank You very much.06:20
neenaoffline!gphotofs06:20
ubotugphotofs: A libgphoto2 FUSE filesystem module. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 8 kB, installed size 60 kB06:20
monkey89and i fixed my own bug.  something is hard coded in mythweb06:21
THX-1138eugman - Have you begun to ownder if cat /dev/snd > file.wav is possible? - me too.06:21
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psyoptikanyone know anything about NX servers or VNC?06:22
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pike__psyoptik: many here i expect. whats the question?06:22
ShackJackAh... kernel and graphics drivers updates just came in - hopefully that will allow me to run ATI card..06:23
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psyoptiki asked it, But to mention again I am having problems setting up a NX server. I keep getting connection errors when checking the status of it on the host machine. I also had problems with VNC servers, in case anyone knows about them too.06:24
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pike__psyoptik: same problems with vnc and freenx to 127.0.0.1 ?06:24
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jsilvahi06:25
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setuidWe've just added another PPC64 server online for public access...06:25
setuidhttp://ibm.gnu-designs.com/openpower.html#en06:25
setuidIf anyone is interested06:25
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pike__psyoptik: i would check iptables.  sudo iptables -L input outbound and forward should be set to accept by default with no other rules06:25
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psyoptikseems like it...the VNC problem was something with VNC auth. I'm trying NX because I thought it would be easier and more secure....but yes, it cannot connect to 127.0.0.1.06:26
psyoptikok I'll try that06:26
fayezhi all, I am new to IRC - does anyone know of a channel I can go to for IRC help?06:26
pike__psyoptik: for vnc try vncpasswd and set a password06:26
mAIJKHi, Im running Ubuntu i386 and have upgraded my computer to amd64, is it possible to upgrade my dist to 64 or do I have to reinstall everything???06:26
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jsilvaI am compiling mplayer with framebuffer support, but audio has noise, am I missing a library?06:27
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pike__psyoptik: all i had to do on my default ubuntu box was apt-get vncserver and do vncpasswd and then run the server vncserver :01  or whatever and it worked06:27
psyoptikI did that...and I could connect from a computer within the network, but if I used an offsite computer, it said it couldn't authenicate06:27
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psyoptikthis is why I get frustrated, because setting up these things never work as simple as that06:28
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J-_i'm running a LAMP server, install ubuntu on it, and using Webmin as a gui. when i start apache there's a syntax error on line 392 of etc/apache2/apache2.conf:, it states the port was replaced with listen in apache 2.0 .....fail!" what should i do? i made a static ip for the machine, i opened 8080 since my isp blocks 80, and there's still no communication06:28
psyoptikand the iptables are set to accept06:28
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lorehi06:28
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pike__psyoptik: so an outside connection gets prompted for password or doesnt get that far? only other thing other than like if you have edited /etc/host.allow and such is the router..06:29
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psyoptikit prompts for password, like the in network computer did, but then it said it could not authenicate06:30
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pike__psyoptik: thats something i would get at work because of their firewalls i have to use like port 443 or something for connections06:30
lorecan someone tell me where can i find a dapper package of firefox 2 RC2?06:30
fick"sudo su password , ./ndiswrapper_setup" = permission denied .... why is this???06:31
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pike__psyoptik: i get the same problem if i try to use 5901 from work06:31
baddhabitHello all06:31
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psyoptikhmm...ok06:31
theqkashhello all06:31
baddhabitHow do I get in line to ask  a question06:31
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psyoptikshould I set the router to forward the port 443 to 5900?06:31
theqkashi have a problem with filesystem:(06:32
theqkashWarning: Unknown: open(/var/lib/php5/sess_WF8KrKgTnquoD9XqwOhUm0G,-Ef, O_RDWR) failed: Read-only file system (30) in Unknown on line 006:32
theqkashWarning: Unknown: Failed to write session data (files). Please verify that the current setting of session.save_path is correct (/var/lib/php5) in Unknown on line 006:32
segfault_J-_, apache syntax to specify listen on port 8080 would be Listen 808006:32
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theqkashsimilar errors in everywhere06:32
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J-_hmm06:32
theqkashplease, help06:33
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valcomHello06:33
allison_1984theqkash, just ask the question...........06:33
baddhabitCan someone tell me what all packages I need to compile stuff06:33
yell8w baddhabit:  what do you need ? 06:33
ChaosFanbaddhabit: build-essential, maybe autmake06:33
theqkashWarning: session_write_close() [function.session-write-close] : open(/var/lib/php5/sess_WF8KrKgTnquoD9XqwOhUm0G,-Ef, O_RDWR) failed: Read-only file system (30) in /usr/share/phpmyadmin/libraries/common.lib.php on line 108406:33
theqkashWarning: session_write_close() [function.session-write-close] : Failed to write session data (files). Please verify that the current setting of session.save_path is correct (/var/lib/php5) in /usr/share/phpmyadmin/libraries/common.lib.php on line 108406:33
theqkashi can see similar errors EVERYWHERE06:34
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theqkashthere IS disk space06:34
theqkash*ARE06:34
valcomJMicron PATA/SATA Controller work actually with the beta of ubuntu ?06:34
theqkashbut errors too:(06:34
ChaosFantheqkash: remount the filsystem writeable06:34
Bazzitheqkash: but its readonly06:34
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ChaosFantheqkash: option "rw"06:34
fick"sudo su password , ./ndiswrapper_setup" = permission denied .... why is this??? <---- can anybody answer why i dont have the permission to run a shell script as a superuser06:34
Bazzivalcom: not with the beta I think, but with recent nightlies06:34
matjuanyone has Logitech QuickCam 4000 working with Linux/PPC ?06:34
GoldKeeperits sudo -s06:35
mAIJKIm trying to install NVIDIA drivers, how do I log out of Xserver?06:35
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valcomwhere i can download it ?06:35
matjujust to know whether it really works or not06:35
GoldKeeperor just sudo06:35
theqkashChaosFan: how to remount main partition?06:35
GoldKeepernot sudo su06:35
Daverocksfick: check the permissions of the file06:35
DaverocksmAIJK: init 306:35
yell8w hey guys where's the admin channel on here ? 06:35
Bazzivalcom: cdimage.ubuntu.com -> daily-live06:35
ChaosFantheqkash: your root-partition is readonly?06:35
valcomthanks :)06:35
mAIJKDaverocks, sudo init 3 ?06:35
BullinesHaving a problem getting mySQL up and running.  Anybody have experience with this?06:35
boink!smbclient06:35
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ubotusmbclient: a LanManager-like simple client for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 3269 kB, installed size 8508 kB06:35
theqkashChaosFan: no, at start it's normal, but after some time...:/06:35
DaverocksmAIJK: ah. yeah. :D06:35
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boink!samba06:35
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT06:35
DaverocksmAIJK: sorry, not thinking ubuntu :P06:35
mAIJKsudo init 3 doesnt work06:36
fickeven worse , "modprobe ndiswrapper" = /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko no such file or directory06:36
ChaosFantheqkash: then it's something bigger... i personally can't afford to use that much time today, got an exam tomorrow and need to learn now, sorry06:36
boinkcan you mount a samba share made for windows with smbclient too?06:36
baddhabitThank   you I'll try with that then06:36
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Daverocksfick: have you installed ndiswrapper?06:36
fickyeah06:36
fickit works, its there06:36
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fickbut when i try and do modprobe ndiswrapper i now get the error above06:37
Daverocksfick: so you can install drivers with "ndiswrapper -i drivername", etc..06:37
fickyep, have done06:37
segfault_boink, man mount, yes u can use mount06:37
fickin fact, right now i have ubuntu running in a window in vmware, in rescue mode06:38
valcomBazzi, where i can found information about the kernel in the daily-live iso ?06:38
fickthe advantage being, it has access to the net06:38
fickthrough the vmware nat06:38
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Bazziwhat kind of information?06:38
valcomthe version of the kernel, the patch'in, etc...06:38
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boinkta segfault06:39
swanflhow do uninstall edgy without using the install disk?06:39
afiefmy sudo is telling me that the timestamp is set to tomorrow and won't run because of that, how can i fix that?06:39
Bazzi!info linux-image edgy06:39
valcomsorry for my english, i'm a french speaking user :)06:39
ubotuPackage linux-image does not exist in edgy06:39
theqkashhelp me some1 plz:(06:39
Bazzigrrr06:39
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BullinesIs there a reason why I receive this error with mySLQ:06:39
Bazzi!info linux-image-386 edgy06:39
ubotulinux-image-386: Linux kernel image on 386.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.10 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB06:39
boinkvalcom: il y a aussi #ubuntu-fr pour les francophones06:39
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BazziI don't know where the patches etc are listed06:39
Homer11 days till edgy?06:39
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boinkHomer: that's the plan06:40
valcomok thank's Bazzi :)06:40
kaidenAnyone here had any experience with the latest release install cd on an ASUS p5b Deluxe motherboard?06:40
Bullineserror: 'Access denied for user 'root@localhost' (Using Password: NO)'06:40
yell8w is it reallly Homer ? 06:40
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fickdavrocks: so you see, before i did not have permission even under root to do any thing with ndiswrapper.ko, now it just dosent exist06:40
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valcomboink, oui mais l j'ai vraiment besoin d'infos trs  jour pour du matos rcent, et on a pas pu m'aider sur la communaut francophone06:40
kaideni'm unable to get past the Mounting Root Filesystem screen on the install cd and was kinda wondering if maybe it was because my hardwares too new06:40
afiefmy sudo is telling me that the timestamp is set to tomorrow and won't run because of that, how can i fix that?06:40
yell8w i thought edgy doesn't comes out till nov 06:40
Daverocksfick: hang on a sec...06:40
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fdovingyell8w: almost, 26th oct.06:40
fickoh by the way, sudo -s , ./ndiswrapper_setup has the same response ... permission denied06:41
yell8w :) 06:41
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ryry0666Is there anyone out there that could help me install Type1 fonts?  I have the FF Meta font package and would really like to use it on Ubuntu.06:42
jamxi've installed edgy, but i cannot see the new firefox theme as stated on the website. isnt it in the beta version yet ?06:42
swanflis there an easy way to go back to dapper? Edgy is too buggy for me. It crashes my system alot06:42
Daverocksfick: check the permissions of ndiswrapper_setup06:43
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ryry0666Jamx: As far as I know, there is a difference between the firefox on mozilla.org and the one released with debian, and presumably ubuntu.  that could be why the themes are different.06:43
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ryry0666Also, there are packages for additional Firefox themes that match the Human theme better06:44
echobinaryhello all :)06:44
fickdaverocks: yeah i need to change the permission of the file via chmod . at the moment its -rw-rw-rw-06:44
kowadoes anybody a alternative programm for delphi ???06:44
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ryry0666if you search in synaptic for firefox i'm sure you'll be able to find it soon enough06:44
kowaknow06:44
jamxryry0666: i mean, on the ubuntu website it says there is a firefox theme in edgy that fits with ubuntu looks, but i dont see it installed06:44
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Daverocksfick: chmod +x ndiswrapper_setup06:44
pike__swanfl: thats why i normally have 2 6-7 gig partitions for / one for use and one for testing new dist-upgrade. youll have to reinstall if you want dapper06:44
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baddhabitMuch better thanks for the answer06:44
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swanflthanks oike06:45
swanflpike06:45
ryry0666jamx: i'll try to find you the package names so you can install them.06:45
fickok i changed it06:45
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kowadoes anybody know an alternative programm fpr delphi running on ubuntu??06:45
seamus_iehey does anyone kknow how to layout 4 pages on a sheet with page 1 in the top left corner with cups?06:45
echobinaryanyone have any ideas on running a headless Ubuntu (dapper) box and VNC'ing in with a decent screen resolution? Booting remotely gives me 800x600 (or 640x480)06:45
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ficknow i have to reboot and prey that running the install script fixes whatever this ndiswrapper.ko problem is06:46
jamxkowa: with exactly the same programming language ?06:46
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Daverocksfick: ok, good luck because i need to gio06:46
Daverocks*go06:46
bhamgrayseamus_ie: Would laying it out in PDF not 'force' cups to print in in that layout?06:46
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ryry0666jamx: you're going to want to run this as root, or with sudo "apt-get install firefox-themes ubuntu"06:46
fickdue to the fact i am in a vmware window, ndiswrapper_setup cant detect my wireless card06:46
fickcheers06:46
kowajamx: yes if its possible06:46
fickand thanks06:46
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Daverocksfick: ah, alright... well, cya06:46
jamxryry0666: thanks :)06:46
ryry0666no problem06:46
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seamus_iebhamgray: yea it probably would but do you know a scriptable way to convert a pdf into that sorta format?06:47
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jamxkowa: dont think thats possible, but u might wanna check out mono (.net framework implementation for linux)06:47
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kowathx jamx06:47
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kowajamx whats about kylix06:48
b03ntokowa: u mean somehing like lazarus06:48
echobinaryanyone have any ideas on running a headless Dapper box and VNC'ing in with a decent screen resolution? Booting remotely gives me 800x600 (or 640x480) - would like to get at least 1024x768 if not greater06:48
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bhamgrayseamus_ie: no, I don't, sorry06:48
kowab03nto : i search an alternative programm for delphi which i can use on ubuntu06:49
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b03ntokowa: is it something like this www.lazarus.freepascal.org/06:50
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bhamgrayAfter upgrading (with aptitude) from Dapper to Edgy on a testbox I don't get the new icons for Tomboy and other packages. Gnome looks largely the same. Is there a 'reconfigure' command that needs to be run?06:51
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matjuanyone has Logitech QuickCam 4000 working with Linux/PPC ?06:51
matjui mean Ubuntu/PPC06:51
equinox0rhi .. my network manager applet does not start .. it says, that needed lib dependencies are not available .. what do i have to install now?06:51
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b03ntokowa: lazarus looks like delphi, but i dont think its in repo06:52
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kowab03nto .... thx ill see06:52
jribb03nto: #ubuntu+1 for edgy, but make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed06:53
jribbhamgray: #ubuntu+1 for edgy, but make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed06:53
jribb03nto: ignore what I just said, sorry :)06:53
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b03nto:)06:53
bhamgrayjrib: Ah, sorry and thanks06:53
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b03ntofont in aterm is messy, is there anyway to fix it ?06:54
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Jaak_anyone else have problems with macromedia studio 8 products and wine?06:55
Jaak_whole x crashes, especially when i start flash06:56
_rodneyhmm theres a few things i cant seem to sort in ubunut/breezy... firefox is one... its because the package system is stuck with old packages and i cant find a way to upgrade to newer version... almost all the software is serverly out of date :(06:56
Jaak_sometimes it works great...06:56
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fickwell06:56
fickthat failed to restore ndiswrapper.ko06:56
fickbut the script worked06:56
fickjoy06:56
_rodneyclisp i could compile... firefox doesnt seem to be open src tho :(06:56
fickwell, sorta worked06:56
Pierre!schedule > Pierre06:56
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_rodneyis there a quick fix for this type of thing anyone know ?06:57
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youserhey is anyone around i know its thanksgiving06:57
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youseri need help trying to get my fm radio tuner working06:58
BullinesI'm trying to get mySQL up and running as per http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_MYSQL_Database_Server06:58
BullinesHaving trouble.06:58
_rodneyhttp://rodney.hopto.org/search?title=Microsoft+to+rip+your+head+off   <<ubuntu web system :D ... anywayz anyone any ideas ?06:58
pike___rodney: for firefox i normally just grab the binary off the firefox website and unpack it to a folder "firefox" in my home directory06:59
BullinesIt's installed and running, but I get ACCESS DENIED errors all of the time.  Any suggestions?06:59
THX-1138youser - Hi. - Have you found a radio software package that you like?06:59
_rodneyyeah thats what i did... but it wont run.. due to libs06:59
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fickso, i was wondering, since it looks like ubuntu needs a reinstall..... eeeeeekkkkkk and my laptop cd drive is dead........and i have no usb key, is there a way to at least get ubuntu partially installed in vmware or some other vm to the point where i can reboot and have ubuntu scan for my hardware06:59
Jaak_i've installed a few packages and it works great06:59
srikanthssnBullines try creating users in mysql06:59
youseryeah gnome radio06:59
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Bullinessrikanthssn: Hi! What is the command?07:00
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srikanthssnBullines, u enter mysql as root right?07:00
youseri installed and tried opening gnome radio an got this:07:00
youserCould not open device "/dev/radio0" !07:00
youserCheck your Settings and make sure that no other07:00
youserprogram is using /dev/radio0.07:00
youserMake also sure that you have read-access to it.07:00
Jaak_Bellines, try installing phpadmin using package manager...07:00
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Bullinessrikanthssn: Yes.  I've sudo'd.07:00
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THX-1138youser - Ok. lspci will give you information about your card. - do you have the information about the card?07:00
yousersory if that was too many  lines07:00
srikanthssnBullines try mysql -u root -p07:01
srikanthssnnot sudo07:01
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youseryes i do07:01
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nash-20hi07:01
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Bullinessrikanthssn: A ha!  That worked So never sudo?07:01
ifrozenhi all07:01
gratuitI have a bluetooth keyboard that I just bought, and I am having a problem getting grub to use it. I can control my bios setup with it, but grub will not respond to it. Anyone have any ideas on what the problem is and how I could get it to work?07:01
nash-20i installed ubuntu edgy and the splash dissappear07:01
fickor alternatively... how do i get a ndiswrapper.ko again, so modprobe ndiswrapper can work its magic07:01
srikanthssnBulllines,nope.. u dont need to sudo..07:02
nash-20do you know how can i put it?07:02
kaidenAnyone here had any experience with the latest release install cd on an ASUS p5b Deluxe motherboard?07:02
kaideni'm unable to get past the Mounting Root Filesystem screen on the install cd and was kinda wondering if maybe it was because my hardwares too new07:02
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srikanthssnBulllines, now "use mysql;"07:02
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THX-1138youser - np. - a quick google with your card model and gnomeradio should turn up something. - I am not very experienced.07:02
boinkhow can I set the auto-focus on the gnome/Ubuntu desktop?07:02
fickbtw, i do have ubuntu running right now in rescue mode in a vmware session07:03
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boinkI have to click on "on top" all the time, it's a little irritating07:03
youseryou seriously think thatll work?07:03
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Bullinessrikanthssn: I got "Database changed".  That's a good thing?07:03
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THX-1138boink - preferences .. windows07:03
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boinkta07:03
srikanthssnBulllines, Yup now " create user(user,password) values('username', Password('yourpassword'));07:03
JFreakCapohi, i was installing a package with adept but the package hangs, then i cancell de installation07:03
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srikanthssnBulllines, btb where do u get access denied ??07:04
JFreakCapobut now, when re-open adept there is a error message, how cancell de instalation previus ?07:04
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edoardohi everyone!07:04
JFreakCapoplease somebody helpme07:04
srikanthssnBulllines, i had while connecting to my java apps..07:04
edoardoyou guys, i downloaded ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso, awright?07:04
edoardoit printed it'd be 'bout seven hundred megs07:05
Bullinessrikanthssn: I was getting access denied when trying to issue any MYSQL or MYSQLADMIN commands.07:05
edoardobut it's a gig and a half07:05
JFreakCapoplease, how cancell a pending package instalation ?07:05
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edoardoso i burned it into a dvd, correct?07:05
edoardobut it don't boot07:05
edoardohelp?07:05
boinkdamm, I can't get the auto-focus07:05
edoardothankyou! : )07:05
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boinkI mean ... what I want when a new window pops up is that it's automagically on top07:06
boinkat least I got the roll up back :)07:06
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hawaisurfhi! can I unpack .rar files on ubuntu with ark?07:06
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Bullinessrikanthssn: This gives me an incorrect syntax error:07:07
Bullinescreate user(user,password) values ('user_a',Password('test_pass'));07:07
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JFreakCapocan sombebody help me?? how cancell the installation of a pending package?07:08
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boinkapt-get remove07:08
srikanthssncant figure it out.. wat was the error? access denied07:08
boinkif you dno't want it anymore07:08
HHakHello guys!07:08
edoardohello?? help!! why don't the ubuntu-desktop cd boot my system up?07:08
boinks/dno't/don't07:08
bsniderhawaisurf: you'll need unrar installed as well, because the rar format is restricted07:08
edoardoactually, dvd07:09
kandalaCan anyone help me with setting character_set_* to utf8 character encoding during mysql server startup on ubuntu, mysql5.0.24?07:09
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Bullinessrikanthssn: Error 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax;07:09
JFreakCapoboink, thks07:09
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runahey :) "something" is writing an unwanted "search ..." line in my /etc/resolv.conf (created using resolvconf). Is this dhclient3? What can I do to avoid that?07:10
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HHakHello! A question about GAIM... Is there a way to disable this automatic spelling checking, or to install new language packages for it (Finnish)?07:11
hawaisurfbsnider: ok..unrar is another application or just another packet option in ark?07:11
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bsniderhawaisurf: application07:11
HHakNo idea?07:11
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HHakI would love to know07:12
srikanthssnBullines, sorry try this, "insert into user(user,password).... rest same thing07:12
hawaisurfbsnider: ok thank you07:12
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baggiohi guys.. this is my first day with ubuntu...it seems great! im trying to connect it to wifi wpa. i know i need some program to do it, but i cant figure out how to install it..could someone please help? i tried the forums but its too complicated07:13
Bullinessrikanthssn: That worked perfectlly.  I'm up and running :)  Thanks.07:14
fdovingbaggio: check this out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo07:14
Rookie_!wifi07:14
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:14
srikanthssnBullines, brb07:14
Dr_willis!network manager07:14
ubotunetworkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager07:14
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Rookie_i do07:14
Dr_willisheck - ive been upgrading to Gigabit networking in my house.07:15
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Dr_willisusing wireless is just too slow.07:15
Dr_willis:P07:15
Dr_willisand i get disconnected when the wife fires up the microwave oven07:15
baggioi have network manager, but all it shows is wep, not wpa07:15
brrrthello all07:15
Rookie_some real work to get it secure too ...07:15
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freekI have a question, if you guys could help me with it?07:16
freekor try & see if you can07:16
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brrrtonce i have installed a package, how can i force it to be kept, ignoring dependency problems?07:16
baggioi was hitting 3megabits with wireless g on windows07:17
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freekI burnt the Ubuntu cd, had it installed, partitoned the drive using the option "Resize SCSI1" etc. and it gets to around 56% on installing software and the screen goes black07:17
brrrti do not want apt-get dist-upgrade to remove the package07:17
freeksomeone told me to check md5sum to see if it is burned properly07:17
freekany suggestions?07:17
valcomThe daily-live verson of ubuntu use the last kernel ?07:17
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srikanthssnBullines, http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/adding-users.html07:18
jribubotu: tell freek about iso07:19
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HHakhmm07:20
Bullinessrikanthssn: Excellent.  Thx again :)07:20
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chico_Whenever I click "SYSTEM - QUIT"07:21
chico_i keep getting the Gnome Desktop Manager07:21
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chico_how do i totally log off, I always see the Desktop Manager window07:22
fickwell, since i cant get any help07:22
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ficki am going to try sucidally upgrading to edgy well running in vmware.... i have no other choice07:22
pike__chico_: you can sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop07:22
fickits the only chance i have of getting ubuntu to do anything with my wireless07:23
pike__chico_: then start or restart07:23
ficksince bloody ndiswrapper.ko does not exist07:23
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boinkor you need another wireless card07:23
Dr_willisvmware and wireless.. Hmm07:23
boinkwith a chip supported by linux07:23
boinkndiswrapper can be painful07:23
sredojevicshi, what are my choices if I need to connect to Internet using rp-pppoe tools (pppoe-start, pppoe-stop etc). Can Network Manager handle pppoe?07:23
fickyeah just a bit07:23
Dr_willisi find wireless painfull.07:23
Dr_willisbut it does work on my laptop now with dapper.. that amazed me07:24
sredojevicsis rp-pppoe default on edgy eft07:24
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boinkyou got the right chip07:24
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boinkmost people with wireless problems here are using the wrong chips07:24
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nuked_omenamzing the number of xgl/compiz videos on google07:24
Dr_willisboink,  :)  'its all in the chips'07:24
nuked_omenhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2043292208121750866&q=ubuntu07:24
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fickwait a minute, is there a way to read a .iso image as if it was a cd drive07:24
Dr_willisnuked_omen,  more useless eye candy. :P07:24
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fickwithin ubuntu of course07:25
edoardohello?? help!! why don't the ubuntu-desktop dvd boot my system up?07:25
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Dr_willisfick,  you can mount an iso of course.07:25
Dr_willisfick,  thats trivial07:25
Dr_willis!iso07:25
ubotuTo mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows07:25
fickin other words, deamon tools for ubuntu07:25
nuked_omenDr_willis, some people would switch OSes because of that eyecandy07:25
ficksweet07:25
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Dr_willisfick,  the feature has been in linux WAY WAY befor deamon tools even existed07:25
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fickno i wont have to risk running the upgrade in vmware07:25
howieson26!de07:25
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de07:25
Dr_willisnuked_omen,  but is that a good thing? :)07:25
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ficknow i wont have have to risk running the upgrade in vwware that is07:26
freekwell I had to format, can I check the .iso from the cd I burnt it on07:26
freekor do I have to download another version to md5sum it?07:26
Dr_willisfreek,  you can md5sum the cd you burnt - is the proper way.07:26
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nuked_omenDr_willis, depends, i know a friend of mine who never used but wanted to use OSX just for the looks of it07:26
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freekjust cmd07:26
freekthen07:26
freekcd E:\07:26
freek?07:26
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nuked_omencall it a show off07:27
Dr_willis'friends dont let friends use OSX'07:27
Dr_willis:)07:27
Dr_willisfreek,  what does E: have to do with md5sum?07:27
freekmy cd drive?07:27
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boinkdoes anyone know how I can set the "on-top" option as a default?07:27
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Dr_willisfreek,  and what os are you running? youve managed tototally lose me...07:27
freekwindows XP07:27
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jribubotu: tell boink about devilspie07:28
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Dr_willisfreek,  then go get a md5sum program for windowsxp07:28
freeki did07:28
freekmd5summr07:28
Dr_willisand check the md5sum of the burnt cd07:28
freekextracted to system3207:28
boinkta jrib07:28
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freekit says I have to switch dir's and all of that07:28
Dr_willisI found one that puts a menu on the right click entry that does md5sums.. ricght click on the cd.. md5sum.07:28
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freekor are there others that I dont have to use in cmd prompt?07:28
sredojevicsHi, what are my choices if I need to connect to Internet using rp-pppoe tools (pppoe-start, pppoe-stop etc). Can Network Manager handle pppoe? Is rp-pppoe included on edgy eft?07:28
Dr_willisfreek,  i iamgine thers several dozen of them.07:29
fayezls07:29
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johnny06Randall are youaround07:29
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Dr_willisls - command not found.07:30
BockBilboany of you have manage to install ubuntu server 6.06 on vmware?07:30
gravesonis there a RSS tool for ubuntu something that is browser integrated07:30
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Dr_willistheres several rss extensions for firefox. Check the firefox extension site.07:31
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Dr_willisBockBilbo,  i was thinking i saw a Premade vmware image for Ubuntu Server on some site. Proberly the Vmware "appliances" site07:31
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fickbtw, your mount did not work07:31
indigobluDr_willis, hows about the good ole' Xen :-)07:32
Dr_willisbtw - i imagine ya did somthing wrong. :P07:32
BockBilboDr_willis, you sure?..... i installed it on vmware using qemu and then reformating the image to open it with the vmwareplayer07:32
fickcant find in etc/fstab or mtab07:32
Dr_willisindigoblu,  never mseede with xen.07:32
Dr_willisBockBilbo,  i use the vmware server07:32
johnny06you know what Randall is not happy cause you banned him07:32
BockBilboand after installing it ok in vmware-player... grub loads but the boot process doesnt start07:32
fickso much for painless .iso mounts07:32
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indigobluDr_willis, as far as virtualization tech goes, it blows VMware out of the water in terms of performance07:33
baggiohi again guys. im trying to get WPA working. i have network manager, but i only see option to select wep. my connection is wpa. any help would be great. this is my first time today using ubuntu07:33
freekk, re-downloading the install iso07:33
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Dr_willisfick,  put forth some effort man.. I am guessing you did some trivial thing wrong07:33
freekgonna md5 before I burn07:33
freekburn it in nero07:33
freektry to install again07:33
howieson26!de07:33
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de07:33
fickhmmmmmm07:33
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fickediting mtab or fstab is never trivial07:33
Dr_willisthis command --> sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint        looks right to me  and does NOT invilve editing fstab07:33
Dr_willisand editing fstab is rather trivial.07:34
Dr_willisyou never edit the mtab07:34
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rslIs anyone getting X errors with flash on Edgy? I'm running compiz, if that matters.07:34
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jribrsl: #ubuntu+1 for edgy please07:34
howieson26!de07:34
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de07:34
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rsljrib: thanks!07:34
howieson26warum komme ich nichtmehr auf den deutschen server von ubuntu-de07:34
howieson26werde immer gebannt07:34
Dr_willissudo mount -o loop  puppy-2.10-seamonkey.iso testdir07:35
Dr_willisworks for me.07:35
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howieson26#ubuntu-de07:35
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baggioCould someone please PM me if they can help me get WPA wireless to work ?07:35
howieson26j #ubuntu-de07:35
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jribubotu: tell baggio about wpa07:35
THX-1138!de07:36
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edoardols07:37
edoardo: D07:37
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edoardoyou guys07:37
MammalFishHello.07:37
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edoardoyou guys07:37
MammalFishI was wondering if anyone would be willing to help with someone.07:37
MammalFish*something07:37
ryan_anyone know a good ftp client with a gui07:38
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MammalFishI tried installing Ubuntu to a USB drive, and at 15%, it said it couldn't create a filesystem.07:38
THX-1138!ask > MammalFish07:38
ericzryan_, gftp-gtk07:38
edoardoyou guys07:38
MammalFishThus it literally takes forever to find the filesystem.07:38
fickmount: can't find /media/cd in /etc/fstab or etc/mtab07:38
fickthank you very much07:38
MammalFishIf it helps, it is a 2GB Sandisk Cruzer Micro.07:38
edoardoryan_ gftp07:38
fickstick that somewhere trivial07:38
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baggio950 people in this room and no one can help? wow07:39
ryan_thanks edoardo07:39
Dr_willisfick,  the directory 'cd' does allready exist?07:39
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pike__baggio: if you read the link and then have a specific question about the steps someone can help07:39
edoardoi've downloaded ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso... on my hd it's a 1.4g file, i burned it to a dvd... but the dvd won't boot! so i've loop mounted the iso... and it's seven hundred megs! how come? help!07:39
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baggiothe link says it cant be done07:40
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Dr_willisfisk -> sudo mkdir /media/cd07:40
fickno, it did not, but i created it as a experiment and got the same error message07:40
Dr_willisfick -> sudo mkdir /media/cd07:40
ryan_anyone know a dvd/cd burning program with a gui07:40
ColonelPanic001anyone have any idea why my usb card reader might seemingly without reason stop working? It's as though it's not plugged in, but it is.07:41
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forngrenDoes a Logitech QuickCam communicate STX work in ubuntu?07:41
brotherJohn1234ryan_, tried k3b ?07:41
ColonelPanic001ryan_: K3b?07:41
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Dr_willisfick,  and whats the exact mount command you are using?07:41
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pike__baggio: ive never used wpa but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo seems possible07:41
THX-1138edoardo - gnomebaker - or with a large d/l of kde desktop files k3b07:41
ryan_thanks07:41
baggiolet me check it out. thanks pike07:41
brrrtwhat do  i need to make my joypad work in dapper ??07:41
fickit does now07:41
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fickand i cant remember the command to erase the directory07:42
THX-1138brrrt - peek at xbindkeys07:42
brrrtoh07:42
brrrtthx07:42
fickok, got it rmdir07:42
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THX-1138brrrt: you can do it geeky to xev and xmodmap.07:42
ficksame as in windoze07:42
mAIJKShould I use nvidia-glx-legacy or nvidia-glx to my GeForce 7600GT for gaming or should I use the driver from NVIDIAs Homepage????07:42
ColonelPanic001I'm not really new to linux, just never played with USB or whatnot before, don't even know if there's a deamon for it or whatnot07:42
ficknow of course, i got the same error i got before07:42
TerminusmAIJK: nvidia-glx07:42
mAIJKTerminus, is that one as good as Nvidia.coms detonator?07:43
fickand i will continue to , becuase there are no mount entires in fstab or mtab07:43
OSVWhat is the most convinient editor of php files in Linux?07:43
brrrtTHX-1138: sounds nice :)07:43
ColonelPanic001OSV: vim/gvim, nano, Kate07:43
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TerminusmAIJK: yep. and too make things simple, always grab packages from the repos first before installing from other sources. makes cleanup easy.07:43
OSVis there Project tree there?07:43
fickdr_willis : i did create the directroy and got the same result07:43
THX-1138brrrt - it uses all types of arcania type xev in a terminal.07:43
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TerminusmAIJK: if you really are forced to install from another source, use checkinstall.07:43
pike__ColonelPanic001: open a terminal and type 'mount' and hit enter if its not mounted this is what i normally do 1. ls -t /dev | head  youll get something like sda1 or sdb1 then sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/whateverdirectoryyouwant07:44
brotherJohn1234OSV, i use Eclipse for my small php-programms.07:44
Dr_willisfick,  im thinking you are doing somthing fundamentally/logicially wrong.   its  i just mounted an .iso witht he following 2 commands.07:44
XiXaQHow do I upgrade from Dapper to Edgy?07:44
Dr_willissudo mkdir CDGOESHERE07:44
edoardoTHX-1138 thankyou dude!07:44
Dr_willissudo mount -o loop  puppy-2.10-seamonkey.iso CDGOESHERE07:44
THX-1138;)07:44
OSVEclipse - where can I find it?07:44
edoardoTHX-1138 thankyou dude! : )07:45
Dr_willisNote that i made that dir in the same dir as the .iso exists07:45
edoardobyebye everyone! : )07:45
ColonelPanic001pike_: thanks, but nothing came up07:45
edoardoto convert any audio file, use audio-convert! it kicks ass!!07:45
ColonelPanic001it normally does auto-mount as sda107:45
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THX-1138edoardo - cdr-tools or cdrecord for bash scriptng ok?07:45
baggioi downloaded and installed network manager, but i cant find it anywhere. how can i see it?07:45
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TheGateKeeperOSV: universe repo07:45
TerminusXiXaQ: change all instances of dapper to edgy in /etc/apt/sources.list and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. check the docs for edgy though, they might have special instructions. this is just the short version. don't blame me if it borks your install. =)07:45
ColonelPanic001but, if this helps at all, there's a "power" light on the reader which normally is always on, it's off now07:45
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ColonelPanic001it's like it's dead. heh07:45
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edoardoTHX-1138 awright!07:46
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XiXaQTerminus, I'll do it in a virtual machine first and see how that works. Thanks.07:46
pike__ColonelPanic001: well if lsusb doesnt show it connected thats the problem i dont know why it would do that offhand07:46
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nukeTWAHello07:46
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TerminusXiXaQ: good luck. :)07:47
ColonelPanic001running lsusb now. So far it's just sitting there07:47
XiXaQTerminus, thanks  :)07:47
TerminusXiXaQ: i did the same thing for upgrading from breezy to dapper. worked flawlessly here. =)07:47
ColonelPanic001I had this before, ended up just rebooting, but that just doesn't seem like it ought to be needed.07:47
fickcan't find /cdgoeshere in /etc/fstab or mtab07:47
edoardobyebye everyone! : )07:47
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freekLinux is the hardest os to install, I swearl07:47
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freekswear*07:47
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ColonelPanic001freek: matter of opinion.07:48
fickeeek07:48
freeki've never had this problem on windows07:48
ColonelPanic001I find many linux distros easier than windows07:48
Dr_willisfick,  my fstab dosent have those entrys.. the fstab should not be getting checked at all.07:48
brrrtTHX-1138: with xev nothing happens when i do something on the joypad07:48
ColonelPanic001it's just different07:48
Terminusfreek: as ColonelPanic001 said. i think linux is just as difficult as installing windows, if not easier.07:48
Dr_willisfick,  im betting you are doing somthing  wrong and when you realize it.. you will go " *doh*07:48
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ColonelPanic001It's differnet, and that sometimes can throw users off, understandably07:48
ficksomehow, the "loop" in the command line got ingnored the first time07:48
Dr_willisfick,  Huh....07:49
Dr_willis:)07:49
twitchhow do i creat an identity?07:49
ColonelPanic001is there some kind of USB service I might try restarting or something?07:49
THX-1138brrrt: adventure awaits! - use gcon~f-editor   /apps/metacity07:49
nukeTWAI need some help with installation...I need to create a new partition to install dapper drake.  I freed up some space, and I clicked new.  I don't understand the menu that pops up.  I need to have one partition that is at least 256 MB and the other partition that will be 10 GB.07:49
fickso, i am just hoping that install edgy solves my broadcom bcm4318 issues... since my ndiswrapper.ko went missing07:49
MammalFishHas anyone here installed to a USB Flash Drive?07:49
TerminusColonelPanic001: usb reader? tried removing it and reconnected it?07:49
THX-1138brrt - you will see commands can be assigned to keys07:49
ColonelPanic001Terminus: yeah. Unplugged and plugged back in. No change07:49
TerminusColonelPanic001: dmesg should show you stuff once you reconnect it.07:49
ColonelPanic001I'll try07:49
Dr_willisMammalFish,  its not a trivial task. That UBUNTU HACKS book has an chapter on it.07:49
ColonelPanic001MammalFish: I'm not that much a masochist ;)07:49
Dr_willisWork time for me.. vacationis over... :(07:50
brrrtTHX-1138: but i have no gnome running at all, how can this help with the joypad?07:50
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fickbecuase my xp install is acting a little wierd and i dont really want to use xp anymore.....it comes with a certain need for paranoia that i really cant handle anymore07:50
TheGateKeeperfick: I doubt moving to edgy will solve your problems07:50
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THX-1138brrt - no X? - okay.  xmodmap07:50
nukeTWAthe partition that will have linux....is that supposed to be a primary partition or extended?07:51
brrrtjes i have x but no WM07:51
fickthe gatekeeper:according to what i have heard the 2.6.17 kernel has support for bcm4318 chipsets07:51
TerminusnukeTWA: the boot partition needs to be primary i think. anything else can be in extended.07:51
brrrti just want to run ppracer on top of X07:51
shuanhello07:51
nukeTWAwhat about swap partition?07:51
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nukeTWAcan that be extended?07:52
TheGateKeepernukeTWA: I use primary for my setup07:52
TerminusnukeTWA: anyway, if you've got spare primaries, just stuff it there. don't forget to leave one spare for extended though.07:52
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TerminusnukeTWA: yep. it can be in extended.07:52
nukeTWAok thank you07:52
TerminusnukeTWA: what i do is i just use 3 primaries and then stuff everything else in extended.07:52
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shuancan anyone help me, i have been having trouble with ubuntu recognizing my memory stick on my phone whilst connected via usb07:52
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THX-1138brrt - xbindkeys is more than a little easier. - a quick google with your pad name and xbindkeys or xmodmap will turn up the answer07:52
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TerminusnukeTWA: but that's the paranoid partitioner in me. =D07:52
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brrrtTHX-1138: k. thx alot!07:53
MammalFishWell, when I tried installing Ubuntu to my USB Drive, it said that it couldn't create the filesystem.07:53
Xx|Twitch|xXI just deleted a group in gaim, and it turns out taht deletes contacts too, is there anyway to reverse this and get my contacts back?07:53
TheGateKeeperfick: in that case I would make sure that is the case then try compiling your own kernel07:53
MammalFishThat resulted in it to not be able to find it.07:53
graftanyone running firefox 1.5.0.7?07:53
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Ronz"API mismatch! the nvidia kernel module has the version 1.0-8762 but this x module has vresion 1.0-8774" how do i upgrade the nvidia kernel module?07:53
fickterminus: i only do my paritioning with partitionmagic in windoze, previous experience indicates any other partition manager may screw your partitions up07:53
TheGateKeepergraft: yep07:53
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graftTheGateKeeper: do you have weird problems with flash? i.e., nothing at all will work and you get some weird 'swfdec known bug' error?07:54
Terminusfick: i'd give you a link to partitioning docs if i had any. all partitioning works the same. you just have to understand how it works.07:54
admin0hi guys .. strange issue.. I cannot install any themes ..Themes>> install theme >> then selecect the theme file  ( sleekdragon.tar.gz), , it says file format error07:54
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fickterminus: i do understand how it works07:54
admin0its inside my /home/usrname/.themes/dirname/theme07:54
TheGateKeepergraft: nope give me a url07:54
shuanmammal: was you talking to me about the usb?07:54
graftTheGateKeeper: um, e.g., homestarrunner.comm07:54
MammalFishYes.07:54
MammalFishI was.07:54
pike__admin0: you can just unpack the theme to the theme directory probably07:55
ficktermnnus: however, many partitioning programs do not understand how xp's ntfs partitions work07:55
fickincluding qtparted btw07:55
admin0pike_, i did that .. but it does not show up07:55
Terminusfick: really? i thought a partitioning program shouldn't ever touch FS stuff. =|07:55
shuanmammalfish: i meant i want to get files from my phone memory not install ubuntu to the usb drive07:55
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freeklol TheGateKeeper07:56
Terminusfick: heck, i did partitioning with a hex editor once and it worked just fine.07:56
freekthat used to be my ollllldddd07:56
freeknick07:56
THX-1138admin0 - yes, same trouble here irritating isn't it. - there is an answer. after opening themes from the menu selector. open the file browser nautilus and CTRL+H to unhide os files drop your them in  .themes. use the menu to select it.07:56
Ronz"API mismatch! the nvidia kernel module has the version 1.0-8762 but this x module has vresion 1.0-8774" how do i upgrade the nvidia kernel module?07:56
THX-1138!themes07:56
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy07:56
fickterminus: well, i tell you what, go ahead and do something with qtparted to a xp ntfs parition and if you are lucky it will still be intact when its done07:56
railzhello, i did an install for a friend, and I noticed he's missing the 'disks' program for manually mounting drives07:56
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railzwhat program provides that?07:56
ifrozenbye07:56
Terminusfick: no thanks. i don't want to fix something that's not broken. =D07:56
ColonelPanic001hell with it, I'll try rebooting07:56
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fickterminus: so you dont want to break something that you will have to fix07:57
TheGateKeepergraft: nope works just fine07:57
unimatrix9hi there07:57
Terminusfick: i've had no reason before to use anything other than good old fdisk anyway. =)07:57
unimatrix9how do i turn off the gnome update reminder?07:57
brotherJohn1234unimatrix9, update ;)07:58
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GoldKeeperyou cant the gnome updatemanager turns you off07:58
GoldKeeper:)07:58
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unimatrix9dont need an update07:58
fickterminus: ah, fdisk is great providing you dont want to resize/move partitions, so you can install linux07:58
railzjoin #ubuntu+107:58
unimatrix9hmm, is this still the userfriendly ubuntu comunnity?07:58
shuananyone using lts 6.06.107:58
admin0this is unimatrix907:59
unimatrix9yes i am shuan07:59
brotherJohn1234the userfriendly ubuntu comunnity recommends updates ;)07:59
THX-1138unimatrix9: System >> preferences .. sessions .. startup tab07:59
Terminusfick: aha! so that means you have problems resizing, not partitioning. never had a reason to resize partitions either. i avoid them since they're so iffy. =|07:59
shuanwhats the difference07:59
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fickanywayz, thegatekeeper: hopefully having that 2.6.17 kernel will kill my bcm4318 problems forever07:59
TheGateKeepergraft: damn no I get the crap yahoo ad when I log into email lol07:59
shuanunimatrix: whats new?07:59
Terminusshuan: i'm using it.07:59
THX-1138unimatrix9: ya know it isn't really a good idea right?07:59
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Terminusshuan: it's a point release. that's it.07:59
fickterminus: well, as you said, iffy.....parition magic 8 is not iffy....08:00
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fickits the only bloody partition mananger i will use on any partition, if there was a linux version i would be in heaven08:00
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unimatrix9shuan, i guess the difference is all new packages08:01
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THX-1138Does anyone have the irssi command to ignore bot enter and quit messages?08:01
chico_I can not log off, i keep getting the GNOME Desktop Manager after clicking the QUIT08:01
brotherJohn1234fick, try the gparted-livecd ..08:01
Terminusfick: well, good if it works for you. =)08:01
mAIJKHey, how do I test if I got good nvidia drivers on my ubuntu ?08:01
TonrenCan anyone help me get Flash working with Opera?08:01
omihello, has anyone been able to compile agpgart-2.0 for intel 965 integrated graphics? http://intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html. agpgart-2.0 just has source code but no instructions whatsoever.08:01
TerminusmAIJK: run glxgears08:01
chico_How do i set my site to the state like that yesterday, does linux have System Restore feature like that in WINDOWS?08:01
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BockBilbowhat's a LAMp server?08:01
admin0Tonren: I used easyununtu to setup flash, and then installed opera08:01
admin0it worked fine08:01
fickbrotherjohn: gparted is qtparted if i remember correctly, i think the difference is the UI (gnome vs kde or some shite like that08:01
THX-1138!gcc08:02
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)08:02
admin0BockBilbo: Linux Apache Mysql PHp08:02
TerminusBockBilbo: linux, apache, mysql, php server.08:02
BockBilbolol08:02
unimatrix9lamp = linux apache php and mysql08:02
Tonrenadmin0: gah... I've followed six different tutorials and hints from at least a dozen forum posts, but it STILL won' twork08:02
mAIJKTerminus, Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".08:02
ryan_i uninstalled and reinstalled firefox and now my add/remove program tab is gone from my applications menu any ideas on how to get it back i know i can just use the synaptic package maniger but the otherway is more user friendly when you dont know the name of the program08:02
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BockBilbothanks08:02
TerminusmAIJK: doesn't sound like it's working right then.08:02
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unimatrix9got to log out and in, have to go bye and thanx for the help08:02
unimatrix9:)08:02
TerminusmAIJK: you did reboot after installing the kernel driver and X driver right?08:03
chico_How can i disable the GNOME DESKTOP MANAGER menu. It keeps on popping out when i click the SYSTEM - QUIT08:03
mAIJKI installed nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-dev and then run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable and restarted Xserver...08:03
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mAIJKAnd yes, I have rebooted08:04
admin0is anyone going to try to upgrade to the latest gnome ;)08:04
admin02.1608:04
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mAIJKTerminus, nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-dev is the one I need, not more then that???08:04
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TerminusmAIJK: it should be. and nvidia-glx-dev isn't even needed. something else must be wrong.08:04
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TerminusmAIJK: but you still have X running? check your xorg.conf and see if it's using nvidia and not nv. that might be the problem.08:05
ryan_i uninstalled and reinstalled firefox and now my add/remove program tab is gone from my applications menu any ideas on how to get it back08:05
chico_Hello08:05
chico_help pls08:05
MammalFishAsk away.08:05
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moatazsomeone knows how to mount sata drives, I call the primary partition on the IDE primary master channed by /dev/hda1, right>? how to recall sata?08:06
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chico_I can not log off. Everytime i click the QUIT i keep getting the GNOME DESKTOP MANAGER08:06
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chico_who knows the solution08:06
railzdoes anyone here have the program called 'disks' in their system>admin menu?08:07
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railzif so can you please tell me the name of the program08:07
Terminusmoataz: sata is seen by linux as scsi so you need /dev/sda1 instead.08:07
moatazthanks08:07
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THX-1138sudo railz - it's sneaky but try this. ps -e  (list processes) while you have thapp open08:08
railzTHX-1138: do you have the program I mention? I have it at more but I did a fresh install for a friend and it's not there08:09
chico_Anyone?08:09
railzI wanted to know the name of the program08:09
TonrenHey guys, does the flash navigation on the top of this page work for anyone? http://www.v3ga.net/processing/BlobDetection/08:09
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railzer i have it at home08:09
THX-1138railz - possibly in /usr/bin/gnome-file that does something08:09
pike__chico_: are you wanting to reboot? or just drop to a command line?08:09
chico_I want to log off08:10
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TerminusTonren: doesn't work for me here.08:10
chico_and not to see that menu everytime i am trying to log off08:10
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TonrenTerminus: It works in Windows and Mac.  :\08:10
brenlaehello, i was wondering, can i get 3D working with my intel i910 GL (integrated)08:10
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TerminusTonren: i'm using opera 9 and flash 7 on dapper.08:10
pike__chico_: gdm will run until you kill it youre at the gdm login screen?08:10
brenlaeyou see, my 6600GT just stopped working today (fan broke) :(08:10
TonrenTerminus: Me too.08:10
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TonrenTerminus: It doesn't work in Firefox either.08:10
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chico_I try to log off by clicking SYSTEM - QUIT08:11
pike__chico_: for instance alt-ctrl-backspace will restart X and log you off quickly08:11
THX-1138Terminus Flash Player version 908:11
THX-1138As some sites require you to have flash player 9 installed and it doesn't exist yet under Linux, I came across the following forum entry. It's a cheap trick to make the site think you are using flash player 9. It might not work for all sites.08:11
THX-1138Open the file ~/.mozilla/firefox/pluginreg.dat08:12
chico_then the GDM will appear asking me for username and password again08:12
THX-1138change08:12
THX-1138Shockwave Flash 7.0 r63:$08:12
THX-1138Shockwave Flash 9.0 r63:$ EEk! - sorry08:12
TerminusTonren: maybe it's the JS script you're using there.08:12
THX-1138to08:12
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TonrenTerminus: Wha - huh?  I'm not using any JavaScript.  Oh!  Oh.  This isn't my site.08:12
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chico_Is it safe to log off using ALT CTRL BACKSPACE?08:12
TonrenTerminus: I would never commit the cardinal sin of having NO SUPPORT for non-Flash player browsers.08:12
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deltabchico_: depends what you mean by 'safe'08:13
TerminusTonren: oh... hehehe. i did a quick scan of the code and they're using JS to stick SWF on it.08:13
pike__chico_: gdm will respawn until its stopped like sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop but then you have to sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart to start it.  yes but it might not retain all changes youve made if you alt-crtl-backspace08:13
TerminusTHX-1138: thanks for the tip. =)08:13
TonrenTerminus: What a horrible website08:13
TonrenTHX-1138: Any way to do that with Opera?08:13
chico_ok ty08:13
chico_will try it now08:14
bsniderhow can i edit file types in gnome?08:14
therphey folks. how is edgy doing? is it safe (by an 80% chance) to recommend my girlfriend (about 3000km away) to do a dist-upgrade?08:14
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Tonrentherp: Ask in #ubuntu+108:14
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wildchilddoes apt have package for nvida drivers?08:14
THX-1138Tonren - one flash install all browsers.08:14
TonrenTHX-1138: ... huh?08:14
therptonren: ah ic, the answer is in the topic of #ubuntu+108:14
bsnidertherp: everybody seems to be having 3d problems08:15
TerminusTonren: scifi.com/battlestar/ is the latest site that's been bugging me. =|08:15
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TonrenTerminus: The sad thing is, last week, I got really frustrated with Linux.  I said, "I've had enough!  I've had enough of compatibility errors and all of this nonsense.  I'M GOING BACK TO WINDOWS."08:15
THX-1138Tonren - opera and firefox use the same flash install08:15
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iafichi08:16
TonrenTerminus: I booted into Windows and started going about my business.  Within 10 minutes, the Windows updater wanted to reset, programs were crashing, I was getting spyware and I missed the command line.08:16
therpbsnider: that's not necessary. it just needs to start X (with nvidia restricted) and hook her up to her WEP access point. the rest I can fix remotely, but those things are crucial08:16
MammalFishThere, I made a topic on UbuntuForums for my problem, since it's kind of difficult to explain here.  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1597308#post159730808:16
TonrenTerminus: I went right back to Linux.08:16
iaficwho is there08:16
iafic????08:16
TonrenTHX-1138: But will editing' Firefox's configuration file affect Opera?08:16
davinhow can I check my local IP? (not 127.x)08:16
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therpdavin: ifconfig08:16
bsnidertherp: i'm not having any problems like that at this point08:17
therpdavin: or whatismyip.com08:17
TerminusTonren: lol. once you get used to linux, it isn't really that difficult anyway. and using the command line really gives you a lot of power. i just miss the multimedia apps on windows though. =|08:17
davintherp: cheers found it08:17
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davintherp: nah thats my external, I meant the internal like 192.168  got it though, thanks!08:17
TonrenTerminus: I just miss things WORKING.  I miss Flash working without bugs, I miss my 5-in-1 card reader, I miss connecting to an external monitor without having to restart.08:17
TonrenTerminus: I miss Photoshop the most.  I hate running it through Crossover Office.08:17
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TonrenTerminus: I'm of the opinion that Linux will stay crippled forever without third party support.08:18
davinTonren: GIMP?08:18
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echobinaryanyone have any ideas on running a headless Dapper box and VNC'ing in with a decent screen resolution? Booting remotely gives me 800x600 (or 640x480) - would like to get at least 1024x768 if not greater08:18
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zambbaHow can I get Flash working with Opera 9 in Dapper? Does anyone know any tutorial? I've installed flashplugin-nonfree.08:18
chico_unsuccessful08:18
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Tonrendavin: Please... don't.  I've worked with Photoshop for eight years.  It's second nature to me.  GIMP has less than a quarter of Photoshop's functionality.  It's a good program!  Don't get me wrong.  It just isn't Photoshop.08:18
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pike__Tonren: recommend looking at setting up twinview for external monitor i can paste my xorg.conf file as an example if you like08:18
chico_the greeter keeps prompting08:18
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davinwhats a good GUI FTP client?08:18
TerminusTonren: just use whatever works for you. i used to run windows apps in wine too before i got tired of all the tweaking. now i just use windows if i need it. i do hope that linux will eventually have decent third party support though.08:18
stephan__i installed winblows over ubuntu how can i fix thi08:19
therptonren: I use vmware for the stuff I don't get on linux08:19
TonrenTerminus: I can't stand booting into Windows, you know?  Maybe I'll try out VMWare sometime.08:19
Terminusdavin: i agree with Tonren. GIMP is just about useless for print work. =|08:19
davinTonren: I know, Photoshop is actually the most wanted program on Unix (according to worldwide polls) Anyway im gonna go talk in #ubuntu-offtopic08:19
Tonrentherp: How is that?  Can you copy and paste between VMWare and Linux?  Does VMWare detect peripherals?08:19
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MammalFishStephan: Reinstall Ubuntu?  :S08:19
Tonrenpike_: "twinview"?08:19
py__Setting up postgreSQL on Dapper: I've installed with synaptic, and tried "$ su - postgres" -- but my root system password doesn't work.  Does anyone know how to set up postgres?08:19
davinTonren: yes you can copy between vmware and your real os and you can connect devices and then plug them in the VM by a dropdown menu08:20
stephan__theres another way ....to reinstall the boot loader08:20
TerminusTonren: just make sure you've got a computer that can handle it. VMWare isn't really as fast as native when i tried it last time. and forget about DirectX in VMWare.08:20
Tonrendavin: Hmmm.  Maybe I will try it out.08:20
TonrenTerminus: I have a good box, but it's far from top of the line.08:20
davinTonren: are you trying to run Windows in a VM?08:20
Terminuspy__: you need to edit pga.conf?08:20
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TonrenTerminus: It couldn't handle XGL/Compiz.08:20
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Tonrendavin: Not at the moment, no.08:20
Terminuspy__: sudo su - postgres08:20
davinTonren: okay08:20
davinwhats a good GUI FTP Client?08:20
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therptonren: not really. cut/paste is only very rudimentary. text and that doesn't work 20% of the time.. peripherals? only usb.08:21
Tonrendavin: gftp?08:21
manofcyrushello "human"08:21
stephan__i installed winblows over ubuntu how can i fix this08:21
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davinTonren: cheers08:21
Tonrentherien: Lame...08:21
hoelkdavin: kftpgrabber is superbe imho08:21
Tonrendavin: Adios08:21
jribstephan__: install ubuntu over winblows08:21
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py__Terminus: thanks, that worked.08:21
Terminuspy__: you're welcome. =)08:21
stephan__i dont wanna lose my install lol08:21
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echobinaryanyone have any ideas on running a headless Dapper box and VNC'ing in with a decent screen resolution? Booting remotely gives me 800x600 (or 640x480) - would like to get at least 1024x768 if not greater08:22
chuckypstephan__: create a seperate /home partitioin08:22
Terminuspy__: root is disabled by default on ubuntu. you have to give it a password manually if you want it to work.08:22
Terminus!root > py__08:22
freekok downloaded the .iso ran a md5 in the dir08:22
freekcame back with no errors08:22
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freeknow how do I burn the iso correctly08:22
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Terminusstephan__: boot using a livecd, chroot it and reinstall grub.08:22
chuckypechobinary: well the screen resloution shouldn't be an issue08:22
Tonrenechobinary: Is X running on the remote box, or are you starting a server on-demand specifically for VNC'ing?08:22
Terminusfreek: on windows or linux?08:22
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chuckypfreek: what operating system are you running to burn the iso?08:22
KDanis sun's java 1.4.2 not available as an ubuntu package?08:23
py__Terminus: I know about sudo, but I thought that it was related to su and didn't know they could be used at the same time.  I had tried sudo - postgres, etc...08:23
stephan__Terminus : exactly not sure how to do that....ubuntu has a good how to but i lostit08:23
echobinaryit boots automatically in the lower rez, and vnc doesnt want to seem to go higher than X's rez08:23
Rezx's what?08:23
echobinaryyes08:23
echobinaryrez..  resolution08:23
Terminuspy__: oh i see... well, now you know. =)08:23
chuckypechobinary: well change x's res to higher08:23
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Terminusstephan__: sorry, i don't exactly have a howto for you here. =|08:23
davinguys, I followed this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FtpServer  my user 'ftp' has a upload dir @ /home/ftp/upload, so the server is on, but how do I connect? ive tried 10.0.0.151 (my ip), 10.0.0.151/home/ftp/ but none of it works?08:23
chuckypechobinary: /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:23
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echobinaryill give that a try08:24
stephan__Terminus, hehe np08:24
KDanis sun's java 1.4.2 not available as an ubuntu package?08:24
jribKDan: do you specifically need 1.4.2?08:24
KDanyes08:24
KDanit's for a 3rd party software that doesn't work on 1.508:24
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chuckypdavin: well first try pinging that ip and make sure that is the computers ip and that it is responding.08:24
davinim trying to setup a FTP server on my harddrive for home transfers (lan)08:24
KDandavin: why not use samba or nfs?08:25
chuckypdavin: then I would check to make sure that the ftpd is actually running on the box.08:25
davinchuckyp: yep it responses just like ping localhost08:25
chuckypdavin: yeah samba nfs or scp is definately an easier solution.08:25
indigobludavin: why not use ssh?08:25
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KDanftp is probably the worst solution of the bunch08:25
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jribKDan: I don't think it's in the dapper repos.  It's easy to build your own though08:25
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KDandang. ok, download time again then :-(08:26
davinindigoblu: sorry, I never actually hosted a server before so I just searched 'ftp' on the wiki and I got to FtpServer...08:26
chuckypdavin: did that tutorial actually discuss starting the ftpd?  or ftp server?08:26
THX-1138!grub08:26
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:26
davinchuckyp: nope just added ftp user and dir, but I can see a upload folder in /home/ftp/upload08:27
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Terminusstephan__: oooh! there's the howto for you! courtesy of THX-1138. hehe08:27
jribKDan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java has instructions for isntallation from the sun site and creating a package08:27
indigobludavin: well, ftp is insecure (no encryption).  With ssh you can use (scp: to copy files) and (sftp: to access  your files like ftp but secure)08:27
chuckypdavin: yeah you need to actually install the ftp server or the service that listens on the ftp port.08:27
stephan__!grub08:27
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:27
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KDanjrib: cheers :-)08:27
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stephan__Terminus, yah!....thats it <3 thanks08:28
stephan__i need to quit doing this08:28
chuckypdavin: thats a really crapy guide just goes over user creation doesn't really discuss anything let me find you something better08:28
davinokay, im trying to let my parents downstairs up/download to my server because im sick of transfering files using usb sticks :)08:28
Pierrehm08:28
THX-1138Terminus - I would like to plead Recent refugee from AOL" status  Sancuary! Sanctuary! - lol08:28
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Terminusstephan__: good luck and lol @ THX-1138 =)08:28
Pierrewhere should I ask about maintainers of a package in ubuntu? (like testing new version, integrate sec fixes, etc..)?08:28
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Pierrelaunchpad?08:29
jribPierre: #ubuntu-motu08:29
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Pierrejrib, thanks08:29
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chico_I can not LOG OFF. Clicking SYSTEM - QUIT only closes all my windows and bring me up the GNOME DESKTOP MANAGER menu08:29
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davinchuckyp: cheers mate08:29
chico_Since nobody seems can help me, would someone just let me know if this Linux thinggy ubuntu has SYSTEM RESTORE feature08:30
chuckypdavin: are your parents on windows boxes?08:30
davinchuckyp: yep, its a windows box downstairs08:30
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THX-1138chico_ it's no "fix" but try this create a launcher add shutdown -f now  in the command section  - the f is force filesystem chek and s optional08:30
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THX-1138!backup08:30
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi08:30
davinchuckyp: its a medion pc from 200308:31
CromagDKis it a good thing NOT being able to open synaptics when wanting to update ? :)08:31
chico_where can i get the LAUNCHER08:31
SupremacyGnuHello, When I try sudo apt-get update everything seem to work until I get a GPG error. What do I do?08:31
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jisatsu_I've mounted an NTFS partition, but none of the files and folders with Japanese characters will display, how can I fix this?08:31
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TerminusSupremacyGnu: ignore it. some packages in universe/multiverse aren't signed properly.08:32
THX-1138CromagDK: It doesn't sound like a good thing. - blech - do you get any error messages?08:32
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chico_I can not LOG OFF. Clicking SYSTEM - QUIT only closes all my windows and bring me up the GNOME DESKTOP MANAGER menu08:32
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CromagDKTHX-1138: no it just closes down on me, and i get segmentation fault from CLI if i try08:33
kengurhi08:33
davinchuckyp: so should I get a samba/ssh tutorial?08:33
mAIJKI have installed nvidia-glx and did the enable command and reboot but it still doesnt work when I set driver "nvidia" in my xorg.conf only "nv" work... anyone know what is wrong and how to test if my nvidia driver work properly?08:33
THX-1138CromagDK: Ugly. - segmentation fault. - can i plead aol refugee again?08:33
Terminusdavin: ssh would probably be the easiest, and you can use filezilla as an sftp client on windows.08:33
SupremacyGnuTerminus, ah, ok. So it will still update if there's any other updates in any other library?08:33
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TerminusSupremacyGnu: yep. i think so.08:34
CromagDKTHX-1138: if i knew what it was then sure :)08:34
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aSt3raLis there a way to watch video on cnn.com?  a window pops up and says i dont have windows media player08:34
SupremacyGnuTerminus, ok, thanks08:34
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whymehey there,08:34
whymejust a quicky08:34
mAIJKTerminus,  when I change to driver "nvidia" then Xserver cant load08:34
whymehow do you burn .nrg files under ubuntu?08:34
kenguri have an issue, i have ADSL, i connect using Dlink internal PPPoE client, and my network interface eth0 works for like 10 minutes and then goes down, so i have to restart it in network properties08:34
jisatsu_it's not just Japanese characters either, any non-ascii characters don't work well, I don't think. "Alize" for example. would it be a filesystem driver problem? or something else?08:34
chuckypdavin: okay well the easiest way to do what you want is to either set up a file sharing network?  or just use scp.  But if you want to install an ftp server http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#FTP_Server08:35
whymegnomebaker won't recognise them...08:35
kengurgrr..08:35
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JGLI need help with the audio capture of a logitech quickcam communicate, any advice?08:35
davinchuckyp: im looking for a solution to let 2 pc's (mine and my parents' windows box downstairs) upload and download files off a ftp server that is stored on my harddrive08:35
TerminusmAIJK: if you're using the nvidia driver, make sure that glx is loaded and dri and GLCore are NOT loaded.08:35
kenguri have an issue, i have ADSL, i connect using Dlink internal PPPoE, and the eth0 thing goes down after 10 minues or so, but the modem is connected08:35
THX-1138chico_: desktop shortcuts can be dragged to the menu bar on the top and bottom of the screen. right click .. launcher   .. command .. "shutdown now" options -f filecheck -r reboot08:35
chuckypdavin: you may want to read about samba a bit because you could just share files similiar to a windows file sharing network that you are probably use to.  i.e. just browsing for the files etc...08:35
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indigobludavin: if you want windows share integartion use samba-server08:36
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indigobludavin: but if you are going to be remotly accessing files from outside your home network then use ssh08:36
whymedavi, did you checkout the guide under easylinux.info? it has the step by step instructions to do ust that!! :)08:36
jisatsu_how do I find out what charset ubuntu is using?08:36
whyme*davin08:36
chuckypdavin: like I say if you want to set up a ftp server check out http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#FTP_Server  if you want to set up file sharing just message ubotu about samba08:36
davinindigoblu: nah just on the lan, like closed port08:36
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kengurcould the torrent client (Transmission) put the network down by trying to download too much? or it's stupid even to say that?08:36
mAIJKTerminus, "dri" is loaded... I made a bracket before it now08:36
davinokay ill check smb out, thanks guys!08:36
Terminusjisatsu_: sounds like an encoding problem. man mount and look for ntfs. there's a utf option and probably some other options for it too.08:36
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TerminusmAIJK: just comment it out.08:37
jisatsu_ok, cool, thanks :) I'll take a look08:37
chuckypdavin: well if you don't need access outside I would use smb or ssh to copy the files back and forth.08:37
Terminusjisatsu_: good luck. =)08:37
chuckypdavin: samba probably being an easier solution.08:37
THX-1138!ppoe08:37
crimsunjisatsu_: FWIW, -o nls=utf808:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ppoe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:37
THX-1138!dsl08:37
ubotuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE08:37
chuckyp!dsl08:37
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chuckypTHX-1138: ahh beat me to it.08:37
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THX-1138chuckyp - grin08:38
jisatsu_crimsun: can I put that in fstab anywhere?08:38
THX-1138Hi crimsun08:38
crimsunjisatsu_: yes, in the options column08:38
crimsunhi THX-113808:38
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jisatsu_crimsun: ok, I'll take a look :)08:38
crimsunjisatsu_: (just omit -o)08:38
kengurPPPoE is not the issue, the network goes down, and if i restart eth0 it's back for enother 10 minues08:39
SAS_Spidey01Can any one tell me if the hardware support in Dapper Drake is the same as Debian Sarge?08:39
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THX-1138crimsun - kengur has an interesting question.08:39
davinso I have to add a user called samba?08:39
chico_The create laucher window asks me for Name, generic name, comment08:39
chico_what should i supply there08:39
davindefault profile points to '/home/samba/profile'08:40
kengurTHX-1138: it's a stupid one, actually... can u put down the network with bittorent client?08:40
jisatsu_crimsun: that did the trick, thanks :)08:40
kenguri mean if i just use it for browsing it just keeps on and on08:41
m_tadeuwhy does scantv says "device has no tuner"?08:41
kengurand i never got that before actually, i just got this recently08:41
emergehow can i add MAC into my /network/interfaces? (i mean syntax requirements)08:41
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chico_i guess i will just reformat this freaking computer08:42
chico_I should have stayed with windows, this ubuntu is not so newbie friendly08:42
chico_grr08:42
davinchico_: whoa whoa whats the problem?08:42
coolnerdis there a command to scan for occupied ips on linux?08:42
kengurum... actually i capped the torrent thing at 90 percent... so i'll going to find out soon =)08:42
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chico_All i want is to turn this computer off08:43
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chico_all i see is the SYSTEM - QUIT08:43
chico_but doing so give me the gnome desktop manager08:43
davinchico_: from shell?08:43
chico_over an over again08:43
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davinchico_: open a terminal and type 'sudo halt' ?08:43
coolnerdis there a command to scan for occupied ips on linux?08:43
pike__chico_: you cant choose shutdown instead of logoff?08:43
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davincoolnerd: ifconfig?08:44
=== ephemeros yo \m/
graftcoolnerd: you mean which ips on a subnet are used?08:45
coolnerdgraft, yes08:45
coolnerd192.168.0.*08:45
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abbi2bhi, just to confirm, i have installed ubuntu in my dell, for spm i need .686 kernel right?08:45
graftcoolnerd: try arp -a08:45
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Alzi_Hey. Is automatix safe to use? I'm running it right now. I hope it doesn't screw anything up...08:45
Alzi_!automatix08:46
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ubotuautomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.08:46
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kengurhow do i make my USB mount with "no flush"?08:46
davin^afkafk08:46
graftcoolnerd: sudo arp -a even08:46
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coolnerdthanks graft, it worked08:47
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graftcoolnerd: that's not a guarantee, that's just the things that happen to be in your ARP cache at the moment - to be sure you should try pinging the ip, etc.08:47
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derpflanzhey all08:49
graftyo08:49
derpflanzI just ran through the flash/java for amd64 howto and it all works fine, except for sound support, both in flash and real. i tried the tips given in the tutorial for flahs, but to no avail08:50
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mAIJKTerminus, I changed to nvidia and I did not get get an X error but My display say  "check signal cable"08:50
ibob63is there anyway I can turn off viewing when people have entered or left a room when using gaim?08:50
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mAIJKTerminus,  I use same Depth and Mode that works with my nv driver08:51
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sjoosibob63, press right button an tab and change properties08:52
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ibob63sjoos: I don't appear to have that option08:54
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ibob63although this could because I am currently using gaim on windows :(08:56
[bash] hi all, can anyone help me with this:08:56
[bash] I got windowsXP on my machine, then I got a new hardisk and 10 copies of ubuntu, so I plugged the HDD as slave and installed ubuntu, now when I start my pc I get OS choice from ubuntu, and I want to make it back to read boot.ini in windows so I can remove the slave HDD08:56
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ubuntu!grub08:56
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:56
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rbdis asterisk's addons package (containg res_mysql.so, res_mysql.conf, etc) available as a ubuntu package? (I can't find it via packages.ubuntu.org)08:57
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anon32newbie question - how can I edit mp3 tags? the edit - media information thingy in rhytmbox doesn't let me change anything08:58
ibob63rbd: I'm using astrisk and i'll just have a quite look for you..08:58
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link_36pAnyone have any clue why when i log on my desktop freezes? Im running with ati driver and this happened while trying to get fglrx to work08:58
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TonrenHey guys, what's a good app for converting WMA to MP3?08:58
Shaezscheanyone know how to get the interl wireless 3945 working under ubuntu??08:59
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rbdibob63: thanks, I don't seem to see it, at least with 6.0608:59
anon32Tonren, don't - your music will be even more crappy then08:59
Tonrenanon32: I can't play WMAs with MPD.08:59
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anon32Tonren, get w32codecs08:59
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CromagDKuhm anyone knows any good CRC check apps ?08:59
CromagDKi now get a CRC error on boot :(09:00
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anon32CromagDK, um... isn't there crc09:00
Tonrenanon32: Sweet.09:00
Shaezscheanyone know how to get the interl wireless 3945 working under ubuntu??09:00
CromagDKTHX-1138: the error was a CRC fault..09:00
CromagDKanon32: ehm crc ?09:00
bruenig!repeat09:00
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience09:00
anon32so... anyone tell me how I can I edit mp3 tags?09:00
anon32CromagDK, guess not09:00
bruenig!info cowbell09:00
CromagDKhuh ?09:00
ubotucowbell: An easy-to-use tag editor for your music files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.7-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 94 kB, installed size 540 kB09:00
Tonrenanon32: Wait, wait.  I already have them installed, and MPD won't recognize WMAs.09:00
pike__rbd: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26093/ thats all im showing looking at all the official repos09:00
ibob63rbd: I can't seem to find it in any of the repositories.09:00
[bash] how can I log in to ubuntu using root?09:01
anon32bruenig, thanks09:01
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Tonrenanon32: Or EasyTAG09:01
Tonrenanon32: How do I get MPD/MPC to recognize w32codecs?09:01
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bruenig!root > [bash] 09:01
anon32Tonren, you might want to just change your media player? MPlayer and VLC both recognize them09:01
rbdokay thanks guys, looks like not then (I think it is due to licensing issues with mysql)09:01
SambristaHi everybody. I've an AMD Sempron 3000+ . Which one is the correct kernel version, k7 or 686??09:01
anon32and the default music player will use w32codecs if they're installed09:02
Tonrenanon32: I don't like those media players.09:02
anon32Tonren, mm...09:02
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ubuntuype "root (hd0,6)", or whatever your harddisk + boot partition numbers are (my /boot is at /dev/sda7, which translates to hd0,6 for grub).09:02
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pike__Tonren: you dont like mplayer? i  use it under windows as well..09:02
anon32Tonren, life's about compromise - you can use VLC's save as option to encode, but I recommend a lossless transcode such as FLAC09:02
Shaezschehow much of a performance difference will the 686 kernel make over the 386 if im got a dual core pentium M?09:02
ryanrI am looking at the output from a fdisk -l on 2 computers the one that is working properly has a * in the column for boot the one that is not booting properly does not have an * How significant is that?09:02
ubuntuhow do i figure out what tyhe number is if its /dev/hda3 for my root?09:02
Tonrenpike__: I'm a fan of MPC's simplicity.  Who needs a GUI?09:02
anon32pike_, I never managed to get mplayer to use my dvds... I like VLC09:02
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esac_hi does anybody use parallels? if so, is there a way to mount other physical ntfs partitions on the computer? also is there a way to send some keystrokes to the host instead of the guest ( such as ctrl+alt+<- )09:03
ubuntuhow do i figure out what tyhe number is if its /dev/hda3 for my root? like root (hd0,6)09:03
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Tonrenanon32: I'll just find a conversion script and turn 'em into MP3s.  I don't mind a little loss of quality.  That's my compromise.09:03
pike__Shaezsche: a big diff if the default 386 doenst support smp09:03
nikolahey guys i need help blanking a cdrw09:03
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nikolai am getting the following message: Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied09:03
bruenig!info gnomebaker09:03
ubotugnomebaker: application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 862 kB, installed size 2640 kB09:03
anon32Tonren, but you know, hard disk space is cheap, why not re-encode to FLAC?09:03
[bash] I created a new user, but how can I set this user to have full privilages09:04
anon32!k3b09:04
ubotuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto09:04
Sambristaubuntu: it would be hd0,2  (the first digit is for the harddrive and the second for the partition, using 0 as the first digi09:04
Sambristat09:04
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Tonrenanon32: 'Cause my shitty MP3 player can only play MP3s.09:04
nikolahello guys i need help blanking a cdrw09:04
anon32[bash] , under users and groups, select every permission available09:04
Tonrenanon32: Besides, aren't WMAs lossy? What's the use of re-encoding from lossy to lossless?09:04
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anon32too bad gnomebaker sucks compared to k3b... but k3b is 50MB to download under GNOME09:05
esac_ubotu tell nikola about k3b09:05
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anon32Tonren, lol09:05
anon32Tonren, WMAs are far from lossless...09:05
pike__[bash] : you can sudo gedit /etc/group and any group the original user is in put the new one like sound:x:23:user1,user209:05
brueniggnomebaker never fails for me09:05
graftthis is why everyone should be running kde anyway09:05
dyn-afkwma is lossy as hell :P09:05
ubuntuSambrista 5. Type "setup (hd0)", ot whatever your harddisk nr is. what does this mean09:05
anon32well, if you transcode lossy, it turns crap... if you transcode lossy to lossless, you get a larger size09:05
boinkyou need to put each user into the sound group in order to listen to sound?09:05
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dyn-afkand it still is crap09:05
Tonrenanon32: Well, I don't want a larger size... I'm just making them MP3s, dude.09:05
anon32bruenig, it appears to not have DVD-DL support09:06
anon32Tonren, go ahead and get LAME then09:06
bruenignever used that, must be why I never had a problem09:06
Tonrenanon32: I downloaded a script called audio-convert09:06
kengurTHX-1138: i got the same thing, apparently i didn't even get disconnected... but all the trafic stopped =(09:06
anon32Tonren, you may or may not have to save as wav first09:06
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anon32bruenig, mm.... but k3b is much closer to Nero, which is incidentally unparalleled09:06
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Tonrenanon32: The script worked fine, man.  I might hack it to do batch conversions.09:07
bruenignero for linux exists09:07
brueniguse that09:07
boinkbut it's commericial09:07
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anon32Tonren, LAME is easily the best mp3 encoding codec09:07
bruenigit's garbage too09:07
davinIm having trouble setting up my smb server09:07
|_SpY_|sombody knows how i set a DNS for a ethernet ?09:07
boink!nero09:07
twitchdoes anyone here have a psp??09:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nero - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:07
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anon32bruenig, but it's payware09:07
Tonrenanon32: That's probably what it uses09:07
scottanyone knwo why when I try to install emacs-snapshot it wants to uninstall openoffice, some dictionaries, and some python libs?09:07
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pike__bruenig: i thought nero for linux was just a front end to existing tools the other burners already use?09:07
bruenigyeah and it sucks, I pirated it and it was worse than gnomebaker09:07
anon32twitch, um... why?09:07
graft|_SpY_|: get a nick that's easier to ype, then edit your /etc/resolv.conf09:07
dyn-afkbruenig isn't nero for linux just xcdroast?09:07
bruenigdon't know09:08
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|_SpY_|graft: its my nick :p thankz to help :)09:08
anon32question: anyone here know what the best way to open a 800MB text file is?09:08
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pike__|_SpY_|: sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf  a dns server entry would be like "nameserver 192.168.0.1"09:08
bruenigvim file09:08
graftanon32: vim09:08
centoslaymananyone need help?09:08
XxTwitchxXDoes ANONE here have a PSP09:08
dyn-afkvi or vim anon3209:08
anon32graft, anything graphical?09:08
LjLpike__: are you sure that what you stick into /etc/resolv.conf actually sticks? i think there's a daemon that will overwrite that at boot09:09
brueniggedit09:09
dyn-afkyou might want to apply more pressure on you rleft mouse button :P09:09
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graftanon32: god no, you'll destroy everything09:09
XxTwitchxXcan anyone here me??09:09
dyn-afkLjL whatever you put in /etc/resolv.conf will stick09:09
graftanon32: you're already pushing the envelope with 800M files, stick with console apps09:09
pike__LjL: well its dynamic so it will change not sure about what actually writes it on boot09:09
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LjLdyn-afk: well, that wasn't the case on my Kubuntu Dapper install09:09
davinXxTwitchxX: yep09:09
anon32graft, just our of curiosity, will vim load it to memory?09:09
bruenighow could a text file possibly be 800 MB09:09
anon32I only have 512MB RAM09:09
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anon32bruenig, it's a huge logfile09:09
dyn-afkLjL sometimes it will be overwriten because of the DHCP config09:10
XxTwitchxXok, for a while it wasnt working :P09:10
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graftanon32: yeah... you'll probably have to swap09:10
bruenigah, has it logged the history of all computers?09:10
LjLdyn-afk: i made sure i set up static address in the KDE settings09:10
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anon32graft, there wouldn't be some obscure app that loads it incrementally?09:10
LjLdyn-afk: i think i resolved it by removing the "resolvconf" package, or some similarly called09:10
XxTwitchxXDoes anyone here have a PSP, because for some reason whenever i use linux and try and move music onto it, it never works09:10
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anon32XxTwitchxX, and that doesn't suprise me, why?09:10
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erehow can I change the menu in Gnome for all users? according to information I have read a special URI can be used in Nautilus, but when I try I just get messages that the URI cannot be opened09:11
XxTwitchxXanon32, uhh i dont know?09:11
kengurXxTwitchxX: right click on the media and Eject09:11
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XxTwitchxXkengur, oh i do that after im done?09:11
dyn-afkere you might need root privileges to make the changes09:11
ryanrI am looking at the output from a fdisk -l on 2 computers the one that is working properly has a * in the column for boot the one that is not booting properly does not have an * How significant is that?09:11
dyn-afkafterall, it's a systemfile09:11
dyn-afkryanr apparently very significant :P09:12
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eredyn-afk: I think i tried with sudo natutilus <uri>, which also just gave me error messages09:12
Zaggynlhow do I use lsof to only display open files, not network info?09:12
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dyn-afkhave you tried to change the config on the other machine so it also has a * ?09:12
bruenigere, use gksudo not sudo for graphical apps09:12
graftanon32: um, not sure... i'd just try vim and see how it does09:12
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anon32graft, done it... I had to hard reset09:12
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kengurXxTwitchxX: i mean move the music first then Eject09:12
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XxTwitchxXkengur, Worked like a charm, thanks alot!!!09:13
graftanon32: ow. out of curiosity, what is the file?09:13
kengurdamn, someone please help me with this eth0 issue =(09:13
anon32graft, again, it's a massive unsplit log file09:13
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pike__ryanr: you need on partition flagged bootable in fact cfdisk will complain if you try to write and quit without it09:13
graftanon32: do you have syntax highlighting off?09:14
LjLanon32: well, what do you want to do with it? search for some entries? edit it? there might be tools suited to the particular thing you want to do to it09:14
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anon32graft, yep....09:14
anon32LjL, I want to read it... lol09:14
graftanon32: less?09:14
anon32although, I'm awfully close to just using a hexeditor and reading it09:14
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anon32graft, everything's off09:14
SeanTateranon32: use tail or head (in the cli)09:14
LjLanon32, i can't believe you actually want to "read" all of it without any searching or something... heck, wikipedia is probably less than 800mb!09:14
ryanrpike_  The computer will boot to ubuntu but not to XP. Grub has a listing for xp but it ignores it.09:14
dyn-afkanon32 you can use awk if you want to split the file into smaller portions09:14
graftanon32: no, use less to read it...09:15
dyn-afk:P09:15
XxTwitchxXkengur, one more question, whenever i plug in my psp, rythmbox starts automatically, is there anyway to stop that?09:15
anon32LjL, wikipedia is 40GB09:15
LjLdyn-afk: or just the command "split" ;)09:15
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LjLanon32: if you consider the entire edit history, probably. definitely *not* if you don't09:15
SeanTateranon32: even without images or scripts?09:15
graftwikipedia is like 2 gs of actual text09:15
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dyn-afkdepends on how you want to split a file LjL09:15
graftplus images it might be more, but the text is actually quite small09:15
spatryHi.  How do I query which package contains a file?  like "what provides"?09:15
anon32SeanTater, well, text only it's only a couple hundred megs09:15
spatrywith apt-?09:15
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LjL!apt-file > spatry09:16
SeanTateranon32: exactly...09:16
kengurXxTwitchxX: dunno actually09:16
kengurXxTwitchxX: don't have a psp09:16
XxTwitchxXkengur, lol bummer :P09:16
spatryLjL: thx, I'll try09:16
scottspatry: packages.ubuntu.com09:16
XxTwitchxXDoes anyone know how to stop rythmbox from automatically starting whenever you plug in a flash USB device?09:16
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whiprushXxTwitchxX: look in system->prefs->removable drives and media09:17
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XxTwitchxXwhiprush, Yup that did the trick :D09:18
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KDanis there a way to tell *nix to run a script as a particular user?09:18
KDane.g.: runasuser 3rdparty my3rdpartyscript.sh09:18
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yogurtthewisehi there09:18
LjLKDan: "su", i suppose09:18
yogurtthewisewhat was that indexing program similar to beagle?09:18
yogurtthewisethere's one afaik which ubuntu tried to push a while back09:19
anon32say, what's better - su or sudo?09:19
erespatry: you can use dpkg -S <filename> for instance dpkg -S /sbin/mkswap will return util-linux09:19
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XxTwitchxXAnyone here use ZSnes?09:20
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mweor use apt-file search09:20
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pike__KDan: heres an example doing that for vncserver on my machine su - username -c "vncserver :1" you can replace stuff in quotes with whatever09:20
LjLanon32: you usually use sudo on ubuntu. however, i was thinking about a generic situation on a generic unix when you want to run a script as a different user, honestly09:20
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yogurtthewisealways more useless09:21
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Snarkhi09:21
XxTwitchxXDoes anyone here use ZSnes09:21
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LjL!anyone09:21
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?09:21
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graftanon32: only advantage of sudo is you have to remember only 1 password, i think09:22
mweI don't think sudo lets you run something as a different user except root, does it?09:22
dyn-afkif you don;t set a password for the root account and you manage to screw up your useraccount with admin privileges then you need to do some tricks with the livecd09:22
KDanpike__: cheers09:22
LjLgraft: *and* you don't have to type "exit" if you only want to execute a single command as the different user09:22
dyn-afkif you have a root account with a password you know then it's very easy to fix09:22
anon32I like su because well... you can keep typing stuff09:22
dyn-afksudo -i will do that too anon3209:22
XxTwitchxXWhenever I use ZSnes, there is always a 1 second delay between when i press a button, and the sound that it should make, anyone know any fixes/09:22
LjLanon32: type "sudo -i" or "sudo -s" for that09:22
graftmwe -  you can do sudo -u, i think?09:22
anon32meh09:23
dyn-afkbesides that...su means that you become a different user09:23
graftLjL su - c, man09:23
dyn-afkwhich sudo doesn't09:23
LjLgraft: uh?09:23
KDansu works09:23
graftLjL err, su -c09:23
KDanthanks all09:23
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XxTwitchxXAnyone?09:23
LjLdyn-afk, well, in practical terms maybe, but "sudo allows a permitted user to execute a command as the superuser or another user, as specified in the sudoers file."09:23
anon32I hate Ubuntu, all my spyware doesn't run anymore :-P09:23
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XxTwitchxXanon32, lmao09:24
LjLgraft: ok, but what with su -c?09:24
graftsudo has timestamping, su doesn't...09:24
davinIm adding a user for my samba user but the /hiome/samba folder doesnt come up09:24
davinI tried mkdir09:24
mwegraft: yeah, looking at the man page it seems you're right. I didn't know09:24
XxTwitchxXI cant get my viruses working >.<09:24
dyn-afkLjL: su does more then that :)09:24
jmitchjDoes anyone know if it is possible to get Mplayer video playing through my s-video to my TV through ubuntu?09:24
dyn-afksu username means you become that user09:24
KDananon32: try running it under WINE09:24
graftLjL - su -c odesn't require you to hit ctrl-d after it runs a command09:24
anon32KDan, lol09:24
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dyn-afksudo is only used to hand out some root privileges09:24
anon32KDan, but what if it was fancy DirectX spyware?09:25
LjLgraft: ah, ok09:25
dyn-afksu is different from that09:25
KDananon32: nothing's impossible under linux :-)09:25
KDani'm sure it'll work with the crossover plugin and all that09:25
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KDanyou might have to hack around a bit before the most fancy spyware works09:25
graftjmitchj: depends what card you have09:25
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anon32KDan, but you have to *pay* for crossover/cedega09:25
dyn-afkif you don't set the right permissions on a file/dir you might run into problems with sudo and you need su -09:25
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LjLanon32: well, wine has experimental DirectWhatever support. just wait09:26
maXlohello!09:26
KDananon32: you get what you pay for09:26
anon32:-p09:26
dyn-afksudo isn't a full root, su - is09:26
graftjmitchj: i've only ever done it for ATIs using 'atitvout' app, assuming Xorg supports tvout for your card09:26
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budluvahrmm i have a small problem with my new ati drivers09:26
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jmitchjgraft: I have a Compaq Presario R4000 laptop with ATI i'm pretty sure09:26
anon32WINE is sloooow... I just tested utorrent on it yesterday and god was the app laggy09:26
maXloI need ugently a live-cd that uses grub as it bootloader, and i think that the old ubuntus did so09:26
maXlobut not the new ones09:26
KDananon32: most spyware are pretty lightweight09:26
maXloam i correct/09:26
graftjmitchj: yeah fiddle around with atitvout09:27
KDanthey only slow down your computer when they want to09:27
brueniganon32, I use utorrent, works perfect, I am running it right now, in fact it always runs on its own workspace09:27
anon32KDan, lol09:27
dyn-afkwhy would you want to have grub as a bootloader for a livecd maXlo ?09:27
kengurhow do i change MTU on eth0?09:27
anon32bruenig, meh, I just notice lag and slowness in the widgets (or whatever they're called in Windows)09:27
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XxTwitchxXI hate ZSNES09:27
bruenigoh the little wine system tray thing?09:27
dyn-afkkengur: do a man ifconfig, it's there in the manpage09:27
TokuRedanyone here from indonesia... i'd like to ask something...09:27
jmitchjgraft: Thanks, i'll give it a try09:27
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KDanfyi: sudo -i -u dan /root/test.sh << also works09:28
maXlodyn-afk: I need to edit the boot options (it's a long story :S)09:28
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kengurdyn-afk: thanks09:28
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maXlodyn-afk: I need to boot a windows partition :(09:28
THX-1138   !irc09:28
ubotuirc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines09:28
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dyn-afkmaXlo then boot with the livecd, mount the root partition on the harddrive and change the option for grub09:28
jmitchjgraft: do you know if it's available for 64bit processor?09:28
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dyn-afkif you run grub on the livecd and change that it means it will change the grub config of the livecd and not the one on your harddrive09:29
THX-1138there are channels for most languages. - sorry i don't know what language is spoken in Indonesia.09:29
kengurdyn-afk: may be you can also answer the main question here i'm at.. i have ADSL over PPPoE and my network goes down even though the modem is still connected09:29
dyn-afkin other words: changing the grub of the livecd is pretty much useless09:29
anon32!bsd09:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bsd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:29
anon32lmao09:29
anon32but it knows09:29
maXlodyn-afk: it is not that easy. i had to romeve linux from that hard disk (my boss...), and i need to boot to windows. unfotunately, i screwed up the mbr09:29
TokuRedlol09:29
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anon32!Windows09:29
ubotuFor help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm09:29
deadwalkinhey guys need help trying to get my laptop to work with this but res is up the creek lol samsung V25 any one no09:29
dyn-afkdoes it come up again kengur ?09:29
TokuRedokay THX-1138 ... ^^09:30
dyn-afkmaXlo you want to restore your mbr so windows will boot again?09:30
dyn-afkif so it's easier:09:30
dyn-afkget your windows cd09:30
dyn-afkboot from it09:30
kengurdyn-afk: no i manually restart the eth0 from network properties, i don't even get disconnected fron IRC, but all the trafic stops09:30
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KDanTHX-1138: how can ubotu not know about the best irc client, irssi?09:30
dyn-afkif it's win2k or xp then go to the rescue console09:30
dyn-afktype fixmbr and reboot09:31
dyn-afkthat's it09:31
kengurdyn-afk: the PPPoE thing is via my Dlink modem internal client09:31
maXlodyn-afk: yes.... and i do not have the CD09:31
deadwalkindoes any one no how to get the res to work on the samsung V2509:31
JDStoneanyone here familiar with smartmontools and SATA drives?09:31
maXlodyn-afk: it is my job09:31
maXlodyn-afk: sorry:09:31
jmitchjgraft: do you know if it's available for 64bit processor?09:31
dyn-afktry to get a hold of a bootdisk with fdisk09:31
anon32gah, I just notice that writing mp3 tags is a tedious task... is there a tool to automate this (i.e. write a set of tags for every file in a directory)?09:31
THX-1138Tokured - We could try to help you here. - it may take longer09:31
maXlodyn-afk: it is my job's laptop, the do not have the CD09:31
dyn-afkfdisk /mbr also helps maXlo (it does the same as fixmbr btw)09:31
graftjmitchj: processor shouldn't matter09:31
KDananon32: many such tools. look on freshmeat.net09:32
dyn-afkif they don't have the cd then their idiots :P09:32
jmitchjgraft: The debian package says it's I38609:32
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maXlodyn-afk: the disk is a SCSI one... any bootdisk will do? dont i need some special driver?09:32
THX-1138KDan - Do you have the command to ignore channel messges? enter and quit?09:32
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dyn-afkyou might maXlo09:32
ubuntuy009:32
dyn-afkbut if it's a computer from work then let them fix it09:32
dyn-afkit's their job :P09:32
deadwalkinlol you do when you have installed this and your drivers r naff. but run ok when you have fed 6 on it09:32
KDanTHX-1138: hmm, no, those don't bother me. why, is that the reason you don't use it?09:33
ubuntuhow do i determine what wireless card my laptop has?09:33
maXlodyn-afk: i will try... i have a win xp xp1 installation disk, but i doesnot recognize my hard disk, and it refuses to open a rescue console09:33
dyn-afkkengur only has 1 modem and it's from d-link ?09:33
ubuntuand what driver to use?09:33
maXlodyn-afk: so, i can not run fixmbr :D09:33
THX-1138KDan - I love irssi - the docs are thin - found a few  commands but not all and not enough of them.09:33
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kengurdyn-afk: could it be that MTU on the modem is 1400 and on my eth0 1500 and that causing this?09:33
ereubuntu: try to use lshw09:33
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dyn-afkcould be, but it can be like anything09:34
dyn-afkyour isp might have some troubles09:34
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pike__ubuntu: lspci -v might be a start. you might copy and run this in a terminal sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`09:34
deadwalkinplease please need help have just put ubuntu on my laptop but res will only stay at 640 need to fix it love this new style09:34
dyn-afkyou might have some wiring problem09:34
dyn-afketc.09:34
THX-1138KDan - I couldn't make sense of /bot <command>09:34
KDanhttp://ref.yadda.net/irssi-manual.txt09:34
kengurdyn-afk: yes, its the only one i have that actually works with linux, cause u don't have to install any drivers =)09:34
dyn-afk:P09:34
THX-1138KDan - Thanks going to check it out.09:35
ubuntuok ill try09:35
KDani think /ignore #ubuntu JOINS perhaps09:35
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KDanyep09:35
KDanseems to do it09:35
maXlook, thanks a lot! I will give it another try09:35
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dyn-afkkengur can you hook up a different machine on that modem ?09:35
KDanand /ignore #ubuntu PARTS09:35
railzwhat package provides disks-admin?09:35
KDanthere. can't see any joins/parts09:36
kengurdyn-afk: so could the MTU thing cause that? i recently got speed increased by my ISP and i never had this issue with eth0 going down so frequiently before09:36
KDanalso /ignore #ubuntu QUITS09:36
THX-1138KDan - hm, wondering how i missed that. - nice link thank you.09:36
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kengurdyn-afk: nop, i have only 1 puter =(09:36
dyn-afkshoot :(09:36
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ubuntuhuh?09:36
KDanTHX-1138: no problem :-P does seem hard to miss, it's the first link when googling "irssi manual" :-P09:36
cRoW2khi09:36
dyn-afkmtu might just be a setting on the internetside of the modem09:36
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Jack_SparrowIs there a way to restart my Ubuntu Internet connection.  If I boot up and do not have my modem on it does not see the internet even after I turn it on.09:37
dyn-afkso it's the modem's job to translate that to ethernet09:37
THX-1138KDan - you are a funny guy. - lol - NOT! ;)09:37
dyn-afkit actually translates atm to ethernet and the other way around09:37
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bruenigJack_Sparrow, usually I do sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart09:37
cRoW2ki've remove powernowd to install cpufreq, but after reboot, cpufreq fail to start. Someone can help me ?09:37
dyn-afkdifferent protocols, different mtu's :)09:37
fanch_hello09:37
KDanTHX-1138: you can set most of that stuff in the startup file i believe, though don't ask me how... my irssi box very rarely reboots so i can't be bothered :-)09:37
Jack_Sparrowbruenig: thanks09:37
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kengurdyn-afk: i totally don't have a clue, but it goes down when i load the channel full capacity, which isn't much.. 512kbps actually09:38
jmitchjgraft: any other ideas other than atitvout?...it won;t install on my system09:39
CromagDK!crc09:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about crc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:39
deadwalkinsorry guys but still have a res issue with a samsung V2509:39
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dyn-afkkengur me neither :(09:39
THX-1138KDan - It seems much faster to type what you need than wade through a gui. even when it isn't it can be scripted to do *exactly* what you want.09:40
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cRoW2knothing ?09:40
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dyn-afkget in contact with your isp, let them check the connection, maybe they see something wrong between them and your modem that causes the link to go down09:40
phaedrus44i just found out my card is broadcom 4311     ....how to go about installing the wireless/09:40
phaedrus44?09:41
Jack_Sparrow!broadcom09:41
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:41
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phaedrus44!broadcom09:41
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deadwalkini need help please as i have a samsung V25 and just installed ubuntu and my res will not change to any thin part from it looks like i am in safe mode on windows09:41
Jack_Sparrowhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper09:41
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boinkI don't know if the chip on the broadcomm 4311 is supported by linux09:41
pike__phaedrus44: broadcom..09:42
Jack_Sparrowphaedrus44: The second link will get you there faster09:42
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pike__shudders*09:42
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phaedrus44ok..thanks09:42
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dudleysomeone know how to stick glibc 2.4 or greater onto ubuntu?09:42
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and1Hi! My recording level is really quiet. Capture is cranked right up in volume control, but still on playback I can hardly hear the recording. everything else at that same playback volume level is fine. Ideas? thanks.09:42
pike__and1: this is for a mic?09:43
deadwalkinok how do i get some support for this rogram09:43
and1yeah.... headset09:43
deadwalkinprogram09:43
kengurthere it goes again =(09:43
knight__REGISTER checkmate09:43
deadwalkini might aswell go back to fed 609:43
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pike__and1: run alsamixer and there is a boost option highlight it and hit m09:43
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deadwalkini have a samsung V25 res is staying at 640 and will not give me the option to change it09:44
Jack_Sparrowdeadwalkin: Did you install the drivers for your video card or is it still vesa09:44
phaedrus44i did modprobe bcm43xx   and now wha?09:44
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phaedrus44iwconfig doesnt list the card09:44
SkramXIf I want to dualboot windows and ubuntu (on a laptop), which should I install first? Windows so it doesnt overwrite the (GRUB) bootloader?09:44
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pike__and1: inside alsamixer there are some additional settings you can get to by hitting F409:44
THX-1138Windows09:45
SkramXTHX-1138: okay09:45
Jack_SparrowSkramX: WIndows first and on the first partition works best09:45
SkramXtime to have fun09:45
THX-1138!grub > SkramX09:45
SkramXok09:46
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deadwalkinsorry mate thats above me lol09:46
THX-1138SkramX - It will work in a single click "install" from the standard iso.09:46
deadwalkini had windows on here before and installed unbuntu09:46
Jack_Sparrow!ati09:46
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:46
deadwalkinthanks mate09:46
Jack_Sparrownp09:47
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THX-1138SkramX - Welcome to the linux community.09:47
Jack_Sparrowlater people.. play nice...09:47
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deadwalkini thought the samsung V25 was pentium graphics09:47
SkramXTHX-1138: im not new to linux :)09:47
blkcamarozr28Anyone know if there are any free software that you can load up on your web server so you can do a network speed test?09:47
Tru7hWhich file should I download and install for Gaim?09:47
SkramXI use gentoo for work all the time09:47
SkramXI am just going to reinstall windows on my acer laptop and try out ubuntu09:48
SkramXi need windows for webdev work i do09:48
SkramX:)09:48
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RamunasSkramX: I do webdev on linux, no problems09:48
SkramXright.. i want to do testing with I.E.09:48
boinkTru7th:: apt-get install gaim09:48
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SkramXas well as gtk on windows stuff when i get into it09:49
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ubunthi. what bittorrent client is good?09:49
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and1pike__: thanks heaps. Alsamixer sorted it out perfectly.09:49
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KDanTHX-1138: indeed - that's what i like about irssi. it's like the linux of irc clients :-)09:49
Tru7hboink: It says "permission denied"09:50
pike__and1: ran into the same thing yesterday setting up ekiga :)09:50
KDanTHX-1138: bitchx is the only comparable client, but the difference is that in bitchx everything seems to be set up by default to be wrong, whereas in irssi all the default settings are more or less correct09:50
THX-1138Skramx - Gentoo? - Okay. You have true "Street Cred'" with me (Refugee from AOL and have used Ubuntu for almost a year) gentoo docs are very good. - Shh! you didn't hear that from me.09:50
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boinkTru7th: sudo apt-get install gaim09:51
SkramXTHX-1138: what? hehe09:51
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SkramXgentoo was my first major distro i used full time on home computers and i use it at work too09:51
THX-1138KDan - irssi is just great. - Only beginning to discover the power of scripting.09:51
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boinkduh .. irssi I mean :P09:52
hou5tonI can't get my wireless to work on Dapper .... any help?  It doesn't seem to see the networks09:52
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KDanboink++09:52
kyjahou5ton, we have a problem09:52
kyjalol09:52
hou5tonyep09:52
hou5tonLOL09:52
THX-1138SramX - I was just being silly. - everyone knoes more about linux than i do. see websters dictionary "Noob" - thats my pic near the definition.09:52
kyjahou5ton, ok I might be able to help09:52
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BHSPitLappyI could really use help with wireless, as well.09:53
kyjahou5ton, what is your wireless?09:53
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Tru7hGaim crashes right after I log onto my MSN account.09:53
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THX-1138KDan - do you have a script for spell checking. - ah nvm i would just add made up words anyway.09:53
BHSPitLappyTru7h, what version?09:53
KDanTHX-1138: no i haven't scripted it much - as i said it seems to do most things right out of the box09:54
phI||IpIm new to Linux...  Im not sure how to find out if my Centrino chipset is supported in Ubuntu... including the 3D video, intel 945gm09:54
Tru7hIt's the latest one, I just checked.09:54
KDanhaven't even bothered setting up autojoin!09:54
anon32A quick question: I know that Vorbis encodes at a better quality than MP3, but is there a codec that beats Vorbis?09:54
phI||IpI was thinking of using Cedega for casual gaming09:54
Tru7h@BHSPitLappy09:54
KDananon32: wav09:54
BHSPitLappyphI||Ip, your video driver shold be i810, and yes09:54
KDananon32: pcm-encoded wav that is09:54
THX-1138FLAC - lossless09:54
hou5toninternal ... BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN09:54
KDanor flac too09:54
anon32ok, is there a better lossy codec?09:54
BHSPitLappyTru7h, 2.0beta3.1?09:54
and1advice.. after installing dapper, do you think it's a good idea to check all the Ubuntu channels under installation media? as well as enabling universe and multiverse?09:54
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hou5tonkyja:  BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN09:55
phI||IpSweet, I know it detected my wireless perfectly, how does one check to see if 3D is working?09:55
BHSPitLappyand1, yes09:55
THX-1138anon32 - hm, guessing *.ogg is it.09:55
kyjahou5ton, w00t I can help =] 09:55
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graftand1: definitely enable universe and multiverse, ubuntu is very conservative09:55
hou5tonkyja:  great ... what's next09:55
Tru7hBHSPitLappy: How do I check? I just used "sudo apt-get install gaim"09:55
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anon32THX-1138, um... ogg isn't a codec, oggs are typically Vorbis encoded though09:55
kyjacan you get this file http://boredklink.googlepages.com/wl_apsta.o09:55
BHSPitLappyTru7h, go to About in gaim09:55
BHSPitLappyTru7h, I don't think the true latest version is in the repos.09:56
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Tru7hv1.5.1cvs09:56
THX-1138anon32 - Okay, there you go teaching me something again. ignorance was bliss. - never should'a left windoze.09:56
and1ok.. thanks.09:57
BHSPitLappyTHX-1138, sticking with windows is never the solution09:57
kyjahou5ton, if you cant get http://boredklink.googlepages.com/wl_apsta.o         I can send I think09:57
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Tru7hBHSPitLappy: How can I install the latest version?09:57
anon32THX-1138, um... what have I ever taught you?09:57
hou5tonkyja:  what is that?09:57
dudleythere a semi offical way to stick glibc 2.4 on?09:57
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kyjait is drivers hou5ton09:58
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deadwalkintbh what ihave seen so far its not a bad program09:58
SeanTatersynth7:  nice quit message09:58
LjLperhaps nicer in lowercase09:58
SeanTaterLjL: true09:58
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kyjahou5ton, I actualy am going to try to send. it has everything you need.09:58
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hou5tonok ... it's not seeming to download09:59
deadwalkinlike i have always said windows suck!!!09:59
CVirusAnybody succeeded in getting a Broadcom 4311 wireless card to work ?09:59
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BHSPitLappyTru7h, you can find deb packages if you google09:59
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matt__how can i fix xine from skipping frames10:00
boinkwhy would you want to find .debs on google?10:00
boinkubuntu has like 10,000 to choose from10:00
berniehow can i redetect my monitor resolutions? i changed my monitor10:00
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hou5tonok ... it's downloaded10:00
hou5tonkyja:  ok .. it's downloaded10:00
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Ramunasnight everybody10:00
pike__bernie: you can sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg if you like10:01
kyjahou5ton, ok now get it on to your ubuntu machine.10:01
bruenigboink, google has those 10,000 and then some10:01
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hou5tonkyja:  yes ..it's on the desktop10:01
kyjahou5ton, also it should be very instructional what to do but I can still help10:01
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hou5tonkyja:  just right-click and open?10:01
javaJakeI have this error with the i810 driver in Xorg.0.log: "[drm]  drmSetBusid failed (7, pci:0000:00:02.0), Permission denied"10:02
javaJakeAny ideas anyone?10:02
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kyjahou5ton, yeah unzip it.10:02
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bruenig!attitude10:02
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ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines10:02
jerrybQuick question:  For mplayer, where do I find w32codecs? (can't find it in the wiki10:02
javaJakebruenig, sorry, I didn't mean to sound... angry.10:02
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javaJakeI'll refrain from such comments in the future. :)10:03
kyjahou5ton, ok. the 3 files inside folder "move out to desktop" you want to move to desktop10:03
matt__whenever i watch DVDs on xine it runs very roughly, and it doesnt go smooth10:03
hou5tonkyja:  where would xchat have saved it?10:03
Tru7hBHSPitLappy: "Error: conflicts with installed package gaim"10:03
anon32!w32codecs10:03
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:03
THX-1138jerryb - used to be on sourceforge - you might try the penguin liberation front. or the other french site.10:03
anon32matt__, CPU and graphics card, and is DMA on?10:03
kyjaok. goto your home folder. and do ctrl-h10:03
aLPHa_LeaKpenguin liberation front is where i got mine.10:03
bruenigI would answer regardless of the attitude, if I knew of course. I happen to not know, but I could see how others might but just say "what a jerk, he can help himself"10:03
KDanTHX-1138: penguin liberation front? the traitors!10:04
matt__what is DMA?10:04
kyjafind .xchat and look inside10:04
BHSPitLappyTru7h, you have to uninstall gaim first. (don't be afraid of uninstalling ubuntu-desktop, too, it's just a metapackage.)10:04
aLPHa_LeaKwe are not #debian :P10:04
KDanTHX-1138: unlike the heros, the penguin front of liberation10:04
KDan*heroes10:04
Tru7hBHSPitLappy: How can I uninstall it?10:04
THX-1138KDan - honestly - the name makes me nervous.10:04
Tru7hBHSPitLappy: Sorry for my noobishness.10:04
jerrybAh looks like I'm out of luck at the moment  since I run amd6410:04
BHSPitLappyTru7h, in Synaptic, probably Add/Remove, or just "sudo apt-get remove gaim"10:04
KDanTHX-1138: doesn't make me as nervous as wikipedia's "ArbCom"10:05
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matt__I had the same problem yesterday and i don't remember how i fixed it, it was through the terminal10:05
Tru7hThanks.10:05
THX-1138KDan - off to google it.10:05
javaJakeTru7h, BHSPitLappy, uh... uninstalling ubuntu-desktop should make you nervous. It represents the packages required for an ubuntu system.10:05
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KDanseriously, when i first heard it mentioned on a slashdot thread i thought "wtf???"10:05
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anon32:-( trying to wipe any of the default packages causes "ubuntu-desktop" to wipe10:05
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KDan"did they decide to take a leaf out of 1984 or something?"10:05
BHSPitLappyjavaJake, remove ubuntu-desktop and see what happens.10:05
BHSPitLappy(nothing.)10:05
KDanturns out they don't even know who they're emulating, and they actually call their Arbitration Committee "ArbCom" in good faith10:05
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anon32yea, ubuntu-desktop is a dummy that depends on all the packages - it exists to make installing Ubuntu easy10:06
kyjahou5ton, so inside of Places>Home Folder  you do ctrl-h and it will make all visable. find .xchat folder.10:06
javaJakeBHSPitLappy, the ubuntu-desktop package is there for a reason, and that is to keep things "in order".10:06
hou5tonkyja:  got it10:06
kyjak =] 10:06
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hou5tonkyja:  ok .. i've moved that folder to desktop10:06
bruenigif you do uninstall ubuntu-desktop, make sure you reinstall it before upgrading10:06
graftwow, north korean nuclear test, holy shit10:06
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BHSPitLappyjavaJake, it's a meta-package, and it depends on all those packages. installing it grabs those packages in an easy way, but removing it does nothing.10:06
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javaJakeBHSPitLappy, I understand it is a meta-package, but in the long-term removing it will cause issues10:06
bruenig!offtopic10:06
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!10:06
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BHSPitLappyjavaJake, disagreed.10:07
graftyeah, yeah,... sorry, offtopic10:07
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anon32javaJake, no.. removing it does nothing10:07
anon32although you can't use apt-get install dist-upgrade without downloading it again10:07
kyjahou5ton, the 3 filesd inside the "move out to desktop" need to be places out on desktop. double click the .deb file to install10:07
KDanbruenig: soz :-) done with the OT chat10:07
BHSPitLappyand downloading it again is painless.10:07
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BHSPitLappysince you already have most of the deps.10:07
javaJakeWhatever. :P10:07
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THX-1138<Back10:07
BHSPitLappyregardless10:07
KDan21:45 < bruenig> !offtopic10:07
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DrewI have my Ubuntu SATA HDD as my master, this Windows IDE HDD as my slave, how can I detect my Ubuntu HDD from Windows?10:08
KDanthought it referred to me10:08
THX-1138true - off-topic10:08
BHSPitLappydoes anyone have a few moments to spare helping me get my wireless connected?10:08
Tru7hBHSPitLappy: Another error... "Dependency is not satisfiable : gaim-data"10:08
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bruenigah OT is shorthand for offtopic got you, soz must be shorthand for sorry10:08
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bruenigI see10:08
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BHSPitLappyTru7h, wherever you downloaded the deb should also have that10:08
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QuoVadishi10:08
kyjahou5ton, once fwcutter installs you can do sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware ~/Desktop/wl_apsta.o10:08
BHSPitLappyTru7h, they split it into two packages.10:08
javaJakeBHSPitLappy, I might10:08
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KDanbruenig: yes... :-)10:08
scotthow do you find maintainer for a package in apt? (not installed)10:08
javaJakeBHSPitLappy, my knowledge is limited, though, so be prepared for disappointment. :)10:08
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anon32question - what's the best lossless video codec (speed and compression balanced)?10:08
bruenigperhaps these are written somewhere, I need to get familiar10:09
KDananon32: FLAC10:09
conallscott: apt-cache show <package>10:09
jmitchjWhen looking to download ATi Drivers...how do i know if i need XFree86 driver or X.Org?10:09
KDanoh sorry10:09
KDanvideo10:09
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anon32lol.... 650 spam in my inbox10:09
BHSPitLappyI've got an atheros-based belkin PCI card, detected successfully as ath0 with madwifi.  My home network is WPA Personal protected, and network-manager doesn't work for me (nm-applet won't even start without sudo, and then it has no wireless)10:09
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hou5tonkyja:  and then what .. am I done?10:10
kyjahou5ton, nope not done.10:10
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kyjahou5ton, also do sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware/2.6 {press tab} ~/Desktop/wl_apsta.o10:11
jmitchjWhen looking to download ATi Drivers...how do i know if i need XFree86 driver or X.Org?10:11
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Tru7hBHSPitLappy: Have done so, same error.10:11
BHSPitLappyTru7h, what?10:11
BHSPitLappyKDan, maybe you have some input RE: wireless?10:11
highnekoKnow of any programs for video-screen-capture?10:11
Tru7hBHSPitLappy: Should I be running gaim-data?10:11
gravesonwhere can i find some good nautilus scripts ?10:11
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BHSPitLappyTru7h, erm... you should download the gaim-data package, install it, then install the gaim package10:11
KDanBHSPitLappy: fraid not10:11
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javaJakeI have this error with the i810 driver in Xorg.0.log: "[drm]  drmSetBusid failed (7, pci:0000:00:02.0), Permission denied"... any ideas?10:12
Tru7hBHSPitLappy: Thanks, I'll try that.10:12
kyjahou5ton, are you on cat5 right now? if so also do sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome then you should be done after you do your configureations.10:12
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tonyyarussojmitchj: How to know in general I'm not quite sure, but Ubuntu uses X.org10:13
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jmitchjok...thanks10:13
BHSPitLappyTru7h, no prob.10:13
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hou5tonkyja:  this istruction isn't working ..... bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware/2.610:13
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javaJakehou5ton, what's your issue?10:13
jendaI need help with my internet connection. I set a static IP for my PC and forwarded a port to it. Yay, azureus now works great. Unfortunately, all my other applications fail to connect. I suppose they still expect the old settings somehow.10:13
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kyjahou5ton, aftier the 2.6 press the tab key to have it finish the folder name10:14
pike__jmitchj: you can ls /etc/X11 youll either have an xorg.conf of XFree86 config file10:14
hou5tonit says there are 2079 possibilities10:14
javaJakeROFL10:14
pike__jmitchj: of==or10:14
kyjahou5ton, oh my !!10:14
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gravesonwhere is the script directory for nautilus ?10:15
javaJakehou5ton, you probably made a space after 2.6... make sure it's just 2.6 at the end10:15
kyjahou5ton, well =]  we wanted to put a copy of the driver files into your kernel folder if that helps you.10:15
suprsonicis there a good linux diag boot cd that I can use to mount a nfs mount?10:15
javaJakehou5ton, 2079 possibilities is right in the ballpark for meaning "everything's possible" ;)10:15
kyjalol10:15
jmitchjpike_: Thanks...xorg.conf it is10:16
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hou5tonkyja:  no space after the 2.6 ... still 2079 possibilities ????10:16
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kyjahou5ton, no no space. just push tab to have it finnish the kernel folder nameds.10:16
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jackrazz_Anyone where is the gui for mounting/unmounting and checking read-only permissions for a partition in edgy?10:17
javaJakehou5ton, after pressing tab and getting the "possibility" remark from your terminal, copy and paste what you've typed in so far.10:17
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tabiasin the readme they are saying to compile10:18
kyjahou5ton, ok we dont know why there are so many folders in there that start with 2.6 but if you know what your kernel is.10:18
dyn-afkjackrazz_ you mean something like gparted?10:18
tabiasbut I don't have a clue how to do it :$10:18
tabiasTo compile this plugin simply run 'make'. If you want to compile it10:18
tabiasusing another compiler than gcc run 'make CC=$COMPILER' (replace10:18
tabias$COMPILER by the compiler you want to use).10:18
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hou5tonhou5ton@hou5ton-laptop:~$ bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware/2.610:18
hou5tonfwcutter 2006010810:18
hou5tonUsage: bcm43xx-fwcutter [OPTION]  [driver.sys] 10:18
hou5ton  -l|--list             List supported driver versions10:18
hou5ton  -i|--identify         Only identify the driver file (don't extract)10:18
hou5ton  -w|--target-dir DIR   Extract and write firmware to DIR10:18
hou5ton  -p|--postfix ".FOO"   Postfix for firmware filenames (.FOO.fw)10:18
hou5ton  -v|--version          Print fwcutter version10:18
hou5ton  -h|--help             Print this help10:18
hou5tonExample: bcm43xx-fwcutter bcmwl5.sys10:18
hou5ton         to extract the firmware blobs from bcmwl5.sys10:18
ericz!pastebin10:18
jackrazz_dyn-afk, I mean in dapper drake there is a gui in the system menu somewhere to start up a gui to mount and set permissions10:18
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:18
BHSPitLappyplease don't paste that much in channel10:18
jackrazz_I'm in edgy anc can't find it10:19
jackrazz_I want to make sure the ntfs partitions are mounted read-only by default10:19
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dyn-afkI think you mean gparted jackrazz_10:19
kyjahou5ton, mmm dont paste lots of things in channel10:19
hou5tonkyja:  ok10:19
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jackrazz_ok it will read the fstab file and understand it?10:19
kataI have a problem with apt-get. Whenever i try to install anything i get an error message saying (in my translation from swedish): "W: Couldn't take the status of the source code package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 The file or directory doesn'10:19
katat exist)10:19
kata", and a few more such messages with a slightly different filename. It says to try apt-get update and apt-get -f install but that only gives the same error.10:19
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dyn-afkgparted is the partition program in ubuntu...the graphical one10:20
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dyn-afkbut you need to install it yourself10:20
jackrazz_by thy way, thanks for helping10:20
kyjahou5ton, do this in terminal "uname -a" what ever that number is 2.6.? is your kernel and just put that in the line10:20
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pike__kata: sudo gedit /etc/apt/soureces.list and put a # in front of the entry for the cdrom (comment it out)10:20
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jackrazz_I've use gparted, what i want is to set permissions in fstab via some gnome gui10:20
pike__kata: then sudo apt-get update10:20
javaJakekata, goto System -> Administration -> Software Properties and remove any CD entries. If you want the CD back again, click on the "Add CD" button.10:21
dyn-afkI haven't seen a default tool in dapper which can do something like that10:21
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hou5tonkyja: I got this ... hou5ton-laptop 2.6.15-27-38610:21
javaJakekata, (my instructions are GUI. :P )10:21
dyn-afkgparted and discs come close to doing what you want10:21
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kyjahou5ton, sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware/2.6.15-27-386 ~/Desktop/wl_apsta.o10:21
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pike__javaJake: bah :)10:21
jackrazz_ok, havn't heard of discs...I'll google it10:21
kyjathats the line then10:21
jackrazz_thanks10:21
dyn-afkSystem > Administration > Discs10:21
hou5tonkyja:  done10:21
dyn-afkdiscs is there by default10:22
philipsmithHow do I get macromedia flash stuff to work?? I've installed Macromedial flashplugin-nonfree installed. I'm running Dapper 686.10:22
hou5tonkyja:  anything else?10:22
dyn-afkyou can also mount something and then check the permission from within nautilus10:22
javaJakepike_, LOL10:22
jackrazz_discs was what I was looking for, but it doesn't seem to be there in edgy10:22
AndyCoollHi folks, anyone able to solve a permissions query for me?10:22
kyjahou5ton, sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome <== if you can get it. your done restart required.10:22
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javaJakeI have this error with the i810 driver in Xorg.0.log: "[drm]  drmSetBusid failed (7, pci:0000:00:02.0), Permission denied"... Any ideas?10:23
AndyCoollI've got a file server to which I've attached an external hard-drive10:23
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dyn-afkI think you need to edit the menus jackrazz_10:23
dyn-afklet me check :)10:23
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AndyCoollIt's recognised as /media/usbdisk ...ok so far10:23
hou5tonkyja:  ok ... I'll restart and see if I can pick up the wireless.  In a previous version of Ubuntu, I had to not have the cat5 activated, or else the wireless would work .... it couldn't do both at once ... is that still the same?10:24
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dyn-afknope, I don't see it in any menu and there's no point in editing the menus because it's simply not there10:24
AndyCoollHowever when I try to copy to it I get an "cp: omitting directory ..." error mesage10:24
CromagDKi have a smaller issue here: i get CRC errors when booting but im unsure if its Hardware error OR software error. IS it possible to test somehow with the liveCD with an app ? And: i see my discs but i cannot access them. Cant execute pmount. But i actually want or need to retrive some data from one of the discs wich is the real boot disc. Any suggestions ? :)10:24
kyjahou5ton, you may want to disable the lan card10:24
hou5tonkyja:  before, or after restarting?10:25
AndyCoollI'm doing this through ssh10:25
jackrazz_good idea, thanks10:25
kyjabefore if you can10:25
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javaJake"...people have said that it's due to the modules being built with a different gcc than the kernel. Make sure they are in sync." How do I do this?10:25
philipsmithI do a "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" and then "sudo update-flashplugin" and Macromedia flash still does not work. What am I doing wrong?10:25
thill2708Does anyone know of a program I have have running in the background that will download nzb's from an rss feed into a specific folder?10:25
hou5tonkyja:  thanks a bunch ... restarting now10:25
AndyCoollAnd using "sudo cp ..." doesn't work either.10:25
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jackrazz_dyn-afk: not there, check synaptic next10:26
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javaJakephilipsmith, what browser are you using?10:26
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philipsmithjavaJake:10:26
AndyCoollIn the end I have to use xdmcp, logon to the server, use "gksudo nautilus" and copy files on to the drive that way10:26
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javaJake:P10:26
philipsmithJavaJake: Firefox.10:26
javaJakeHow do I do this: "...people have said that it's due to the modules being built with a different gcc than the kernel. Make sure they are in sync."10:26
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AndyCoollSurely there must be an easier way?10:27
javaJakephilipsmith, OK...10:27
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javaJakephilipsmith, what does this say: "ls /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/"?10:27
SkramXi accidently tried to install windows on top of ubuntu and grub still tries to boot up but gets an error... how can i totally remove ubuntu or 100% format my hdd? can i do so from the live cd?10:27
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javaJakeSkramX, you can do this from the Windows CD10:27
dyn-afkjackrazz_ according to someone else it's been replaced by baobab which is in Applications > Accessories10:27
dyn-afkbut Baobab is different from Discs10:27
SkramXi actually dont have the real windows cd,.. it is a recovery disk from acer.. uses norton gost10:27
javaJakeSkramX, oh DRAT10:28
SkramXyeah10:28
dyn-afkBaobab only tells about sizes, Discs has the ability to mount the partitions it finds10:28
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KDanwhat's the ubuntu command to tell it to add one of the entries in /etc/init.d to the various runlevels again?10:28
SkramXi could try to find a random windows disk and not gotrhough the install priocess..10:28
philipsmithJavaJake: the following files are listed: flashplayer.xpt    libjavaplugin_oji.so  libunixprintplugin.so libflashplayer.so  libswfdecmozilla.so10:28
LjLSkramX: well, you can certainly do that from the live cd using gparted10:28
SkramXokay10:28
THX-1138!grub > SkramX10:28
javaJakephilipsmith, Then, according to this, flash is installed. Let's see....10:28
SkramXwell the problem is that grub is broken10:28
javaJakeSkramX, I was just going to say taht10:29
SkramXhmm10:29
javaJakeSkramX, boot off of the CD into Gnome. Punch Alt+F2, and type in gparted10:29
javaJakeJust tell it to delete everything.10:29
tabiashow do I compile a file?10:29
SkramXright10:29
SkramXbut it wont delete grub.. will it?10:29
javaJaketabias, What "file" are you talking about?10:29
SkramXhmmm10:29
javaJakeSkramX, Um... hmm... no10:29
SkramXso.. :\10:29
javaJakeI see your position10:29
javaJakephilipsmith, hold on a sec...10:30
philipsmithjavaJake: Will do.10:30
SkramXthe recovery disks use norton ghost.. it assumes the MBR/BR works10:30
javaJakephilipsmith, when you say the plugin "doesn't work", what exactly appears?10:30
jackrazz_dyn-afk, I'll check baobob more carefully.  I didn't see it initially, i'm checking it much more carefully now.  Thanks10:30
THX-1138SkramX - peek at the link for !grub i sent you.10:30
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SkramXwhy10:31
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javaJakeSkramX, Grub should be able to detect Windows, and make a Windows entry10:31
SkramX!grub > SkramX10:31
Max_-I can't access my computer from WinSCP... connection refused.. what should I do???10:31
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SkramXill try to install windows from an official disk10:31
javaJakeSkramX, Here's what to punch in, assuming Windows XP (sending through private msg)10:31
SkramXthen stop, and install from ghost10:31
SkramXok..10:31
javaJakeSkramX, um... try this first...10:31
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dyn-afkMax_- did you install the ssh server on your ubuntu machine ?10:32
THX-1138Skram - Unless ubuntu was comepletly overwritten there still is /boot/grub/   grub-install will reninstall grub10:32
Max_-good question10:32
kataThank you, pike__ and javaJake seems to work better now. But there's some other problem: "E: Unsatisfied dependencies. Try "apt-get -f install" ". And when I try that I get: "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)".10:32
Max_-what's the package for it?10:32
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muaddibubuntu-fr10:32
muaddiblol10:32
javaJakekata, do what it says10:32
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kataDo what what says?10:32
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SkramX i cant even edit grub10:32
muaddibId write /j #    then xchat change window10:32
SkramX"error 17?10:32
philipsmithjavaJake: Usually there is an icon that says to get Macromedia flash. For example, on the New York Times web site there is always a video thing that requires macromeda flash. I can't even see the video window.10:32
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thill2708Does anyone know of a program I have have running in the background that will download nzb's from an rss feed into a specific folder?10:33
Max_-dyn-afk, you know the package with apt-get??10:33
yukiosorry, how can i view users list here? im using xchat10:33
javaJakephilipsmith, AHA! Flash is installed but it might not be working... try this page and tell me what you see:10:33
javaJakehttp://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/10:33
THX-1138kata - Unless it happens on all of your packages. - you have a bad package - get stuck and can't find a *.deb install alien and use an rpm. works fairly well.10:33
javaJake(Does the bottom "Flash" one work?)10:34
tabiasjavaJake: I'm trying to compile kmix-1.0 plugin for keytouch so I can use my volume wheel on the Kmix10:34
Lam_dvd://, vcd://, tv://; where are they pointing from?10:34
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jendaWhat's teh command to reset eth0?10:34
dyn-afk!ssh10:34
ubotussh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/10:34
dyn-afk!ssh-server10:34
tabiasfolder containing : KMix-1.0.c Makefile Plugin.h README10:34
javaJaketabias, is there a file called "INSTALL" in the package you are to compile? Usually that provides instructions.10:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ssh-server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:35
muaddibSomebody have problem to use nautilus as ftp client ?10:35
dyn-afk!openssh10:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about openssh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:35
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THX-1138SkramX - Yech - are you more comfortable with a knoppix live cd? - grab it up. the same grub-install command works there.10:35
Lam_jenda: try:  $sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart10:35
philipsmithjavaJake: I get a box with a green puzzle piece that says, "Click here to download plugin."10:35
tabiasjavaJake: the readme is telling to simply run 'make' and I really don't have a clue what it is talking about10:35
dyn-afkMax_- you need openssh-server10:35
javaJakephilipsmith, OK, then you don't have flash at all.10:36
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javaJakephilipsmith, just to comfirm, what does this say? about:plugins10:36
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kataTHX-1138: It happens whatever I try to install.10:36
muaddibjendo > you can reset eth0 with this command to : $ sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth010:36
dyn-afkMax_- type: !ssh and follow the link ubotu will give you :)10:36
javaJakephilipsmith, WOW... totally wierd... I just ran Flash in Firefox (been using Opera) and Flash won't work there either...10:37
dyn-afkit tells you how to set up ssh onyour machine10:37
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jendaLam_, muaddib thx10:37
skypais there a way to change workspaces with the mousewheel?10:37
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skypasome window manager offer that functionality10:37
Sofistiohi10:37
javaJaketabias, ok, do you know how to use a terminal?10:37
THX-1138kata - (begins to look nervous with a bead of cold sweat running down forehead) I think a real linux user can help. (I am a recent refugee from /////////aol010:37
javaJaketabias, sorry about the slow response times10:37
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philipsmithjavaJake: When I do "about:plugins" I don't see anything about Macromedia flash. However, I see many other things, including "Windows media video"10:38
THX-1138kata - I don't know how to fix that.10:38
KDanshot in the dark here, but anyone here ever used "XPay" (the payment gateway from SecureTrading) and would you happen to have a half-decent php api for it?10:38
tabiasjavaJake:  yes I've used terminal before for a number of things. np about response time, you aren't god I think ;)10:38
kataTHX-1138: Ok - thanks anyway10:38
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dm_Hello. How can I define for a script in /etc/network/if-up.d/ on which interface it should be executed? Is the interface name givewn as an $1 argument?10:38
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javaJaketabias, OK, go into the folder that contains the INSTALL file and do exactly what it says - run "make". Are you sure it didn't say anything about "./configure"?10:39
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THX-1138<(velcros keyboard crossing cat to top of monitor) my spelling is bad enough don't need any help.10:39
boinkand read INSTALL, that helps sometimes10:40
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kataSo, does anyone know what to do about this "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" which I get when I "apt-get -f install"10:40
kata?10:40
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philipsmithjavaJake: So sorry. When I scrolled down the page "about:plugins" I see stuff about Shockwave flash10:41
tabiasjavaJake: no, the map only contains 4 files (README, KMix-1.0.c , Makefile , Plugin.h) so no INSTALL even, I tried to run make (typing make) but it says there is nothing to be done10:41
javaJakephilipsmith, OK, goto postopia.com, does that work?10:41
muaddibSomebody have problem to use nautilus as ftp client ? My nautilus open firefox when I use ftp10:42
javaJakephilipsmith, OK, try that webpage I mentioned.10:42
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muaddibHow to configure it to open ftp itself ?10:42
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javaJaketabias, goto the beginning directory of the kmix package you downloaded, and try that...10:42
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yukioSorry, why i select screen refresh @100hz and mi monitor keeps telling me its working @85hz?10:43
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javaJakephilipsmith, according to firefox, flash is installed, so you have flash... just a matter of whether or not it is flash itself, or Ubuntu.10:43
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javaJake....or a website10:43
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philipsmithjavaJake: when I go to http://www.postopia.com Firefox quits.10:44
javaJakeOh, really/10:44
javaJakeHmmm... I know I read about this somewhere...10:44
philipsmithJavaJake: Yes. Firefox quits.10:44
javaJakeRun firefox in a terminal, and see what it says when it crashes.10:44
bruenigwhy would you want to go to postopia10:44
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ProN00bdoes anyone have any idea why graveman can burn dvd's for me but gnomebaker always fails (random errors on disk) ?10:45
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philipsmithjavaJake: When I do a "firefox" in a terminal window, firefox starts. Then when I go to postopia.com , firefox quits10:46
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javaJakephilipsmith, anything in the terminal?10:46
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keithwhere do i send bug reports ?10:47
philipsmithjavaJake: I don't know what you mean by "anything in the terminal."10:47
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JosefKkeith: http://launchpad.net/10:47
hitomuHello! I have many outdated software though I have installed the latest ubuntu. For example GNUChash 2.0. I really need that program for my account. Is their a SAFE repository for new software?10:47
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yukioSorry, why i select screen refresh @100hz and my monitor keeps telling me its working @85hz?10:47
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errpast-wcoff topic - I am getting stale content on a wiki page after I edit.  Other than ctl-f5 every time I edit and save, is there a good way to force firefox to go to origin10:47
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effie_jayxHey Lads... I havea wustion. Is is true Ship it won't be free anymore? or is it people from other distros just saying that to scare off people from ubuntu10:48
javaJakephilipsmith, is there any output in the terminal? Did firefox print anything out?10:48
JosefKyukio: that's probably for safety, if you want to force 100hz add Option "noddc" to your xorg.conf10:48
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JosefKyukio: but that's probably dangerous..10:48
fickwell10:48
fickthe beta upgrade did not work10:48
qailerHello people. I've got problems with sound in firefox, anyone?10:48
javaJakeI have this error with the i810 driver in Xorg.0.log: "[drm]  drmSetBusid failed (7, pci:0000:00:02.0), Permission denied"... Any ideas?10:48
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defi__3xHi all10:48
javaJakeqailer, what kind of issues?10:48
philipsmithJavaJake: it says: "The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error.10:49
philipsmithThis probably reflects a bug in the program.10:49
philipsmithThe error was 'BadShmSeg (invalid shared segment parameter)'.10:49
philipsmith  (Details: serial 74 error_code 165 request_code 143 minor_code 2)10:49
philipsmith  (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;10:49
philipsmith   that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.10:49
philipsmith   To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line10:49
philipsmith   option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful10:49
philipsmith   backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)10:49
philipsmith"10:49
tonyyarusso!paste10:49
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:49
effie_jayxdefi__3x,  hi10:49
defi__3xHow do I make HAL ignore a usb device?10:49
yukioJosefK, the monitor always worked at 100hz, im talking just about 1024x76810:49
javaJakephilipsmith, Oops... :P10:49
philipsmithubotu: sorry I don't know about this. I will learn this.10:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sorry I don't know about this. I will learn this. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:49
qailerjavajake: well, there's no sound :), I've installed flash form macromedias site, the video works, but no sound =/10:49
tucozphilip, ubotu is a bot :)10:49
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effie_jayxqailer, try killall esd10:50
tonyyarussoeffie_jayx: ShipIt will continue to be free, but they are trimming it up a bit (ie you need to give a reason if you want a boatload of CDs).  The basic stuff is still free, and larger orders are still accepted for events, teachers, etc., there are just some limits coming into place to make sure that it CAN continue operating for free.10:50
effie_jayxqailer, and close all browsers10:50
javaJakephilipsmith, try googling that, or search Ubuntu forums with this error. I cannot help you anymore10:50
qailereffie_jayx: yep, one restart comin up10:50
philipsmithjavaJake: Many thanks for your assistance. I owe you a Coke. Best regards, Phil Smith, DUluth, GA10:51
fickwheres the off-topic channel10:51
effie_jayxqailer, close all browsers first... then killall esd10:51
javaJakephilipsmith, np...10:51
boink#ubuntu-offtopic10:51
qailereffie_jayx, yep10:51
effie_jayxtonyyarusso,  I see.. and logically it would make sence...10:51
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qailereffie_jayx: thx, that solved it :)10:51
qailerjavajake, thx to you to10:52
javaJakephilipsmith, try searching this without quotes: "BadShmSeg flash plugin"10:52
effie_jayxqailer, the fix is not permanent ... :(10:52
javaJakeqailer, np... all in an IRC day's work. :)10:52
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qailereffie_jayx: you mean I have to do it all the time?10:52
javaJakeqailer, usually sound blanks out when you use a sound program before Firefox.10:52
qailereffie_jayx: problem is it's my granpas computer :)10:52
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qailerjavajake: I see, :), I usually hang out in debian ;)10:53
javaJakeqailer, edit the "/usr/bin/firefox" file and add "killall esd" to the beginning10:53
effie_jayxtonyyarusso,  there is a heavy campaign in my lug listserv  going against UbUNTU.. and I can take this info to all my ubuntu frineds so they can rest esays10:53
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tonyyarussoeffie_jayx: Good, good.  I'm curious what your lug has against it - #ubuntu-offtopic if you care to fill me in.10:54
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HexDumphi all10:54
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mumbleswhats the most easy to use meda / mp3 player ?10:55
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defi__3xHow do I make HAL ignore a usb device?10:56
HexDumpWhat is the command to delete a certain archive type from a directory recursively? I'm trying rm -R *.o , but the shell gives me an "file not found *.o error" :?10:56
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lupine_85!amarok10:57
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org10:57
ProN00bthats wrong10:57
KnifaDoes the x64 image work with intel cpus?10:57
ProN00bit doesn't have an intuitive interface10:57
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lupine_85intel 64 bit CPUs. yes10:57
Knifakay10:57
Knifaeven though it says AMD64? :x10:57
Knifasince uh10:57
Knifathat's kinda confusing10:58
lupine_85in the same way that the 386 kernel works with non-IBM cpus10:58
javaJakeI get this error on an i810 device: "[drm]  drmSetBusid failed (7, pci:0000:00:02.0), Permission denied" any ideas???10:58
lupine_85intel ripped off amd for 64bit10:58
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lscok i'm having a problem10:58
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Knifahow do i get to the daily builds from the website?10:58
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Knifathe web design is confusing10:58
lsci'm trying to print from my linux box to a windows printer10:58
lupine_85edgy?10:58
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Knifayeah10:59
lscand it see share but will not print10:59
HexDumpno one can help here please :(10:59
lscany help would be nice10:59
lupine_85"I'm feeling lucky" for "edgy daily build" on google... http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily/current/10:59
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lupine_85.o isn't an archive?11:00
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Knifakay11:00
THX-1138lsc - Using the gui - select samba  smb printer11:00
lsci did11:00
HexDumplupine_85: yes, this is the error I got :/11:00
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javaJakeDoes anyone here know about Xorg, and can troubleshoot it? I need help.11:00
lscand found the piner on the net work11:00
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lscit is set up on the otherend  as usb          not tcp11:00
THX-1138lsc - cool - so far so good.11:00
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tgphi everyone11:00
lupine_85try -rf11:01
Knifalupine_85: i was just wondering how to get to it from the actual site11:01
Knifabecause11:01
lscif it was tcp it would be a snap11:01
Knifait's not clearly marked11:01
Knifaor anything11:01
lupine_85ah11:01
lupine_85no idea11:01
lupine_85google is my friend ;)11:01
lscTHX any ideas11:01
HexDumplupine_85: the structure is this ->   RootDir ---> Dir1: full of .o    Dir2: full of .o, I execute the thing int RootDir11:01
Knifa:p11:01
Knifawill installing the x64 version break anything?11:01
lupine_85yep, so -rf should work11:01
Knifathat i should know about11:01
lscit is a lasejet 301511:01
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lupine_85knifa: shouldn't do - but it is beta11:01
lupine_85#ubuntu+1 for edgy discussion11:02
Knifakay11:02
py__Has anyone configured postgresql on Ubuntu?  I have it running, but it won't let me login.  I try things like "$ psql -U main -d movies -f load_sample.sql -W" and I get psql: FATAL: Ident authentication failed for user "main"11:02
lupine_85if the daily build won't install, use knot 3 instead11:02
THX-1138lsc - the printer is on the windows machine. (XP right?) and you selected samba configured the manufacturer and driver11:02
tgpi have an odd problem with my irc nickname, and since most other channels block unregistered users; i will simply ask here. i connected with irc client Konversation from my work place (static adsl connection) to irc.freenode.net with my actual nick g-henna. now i'm at home (a week later) and still cannot connect with that nickname because "it's already in use". -- is there any way i can kill my old connection?11:02
Knifalupine_85: need daily build for this motherboard11:02
Knifa:<11:02
lupine_85ah, good luck then :)11:03
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lscTHX 2000pro11:03
Knifai've had it working with the build from the 6th11:03
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lupine_85tgp: /msg nickserv help11:03
jvaihey all, i dl'ed xgalaga game from the repo, but it didnt go into "games" in the apps menu, i can only get to it from the command line11:03
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Knifabut i tried to install nvidia beta drivers11:03
Knifaontop of the old ones like a nab11:03
Knifaand it blew up.11:03
THX-1138lsc - take a peek at this link. - it is darn hard to figure out samba if there really is an error in an irc chat11:03
lupine_85recover is the one you need, I think11:03
THX-1138!printers11:03
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows11:03
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THX-1138!samba11:04
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT11:04
Lam_anyone know how to hold aspect ratio in mplayer when going full screen? my video gets distorted11:04
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itchiAre there some differents between the desktop cd and the server one? I mean, if i get the desktop version, can i install server parts?11:04
g-hennalupine_85: my hero of the day; thanks a lot! :-)11:05
lupine_85np :)11:05
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esachow can i convert bin to iso11:05
jaakkosi'm trying to create an alias or something similar to start a proxy by ssh-forwarding, and i have something like this: "ssh -l username -L 8080:remote-proxyd:80 remote-sshd more" (more to keep the connection open.) how would i comfortably run that command so that it lets me enter the ssh password and then go to background?11:05
lupine_85!bchunk11:05
ubotubchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB11:05
lupine_85esac: with that11:05
esacty lupine_8511:05
macsimhi, I have this with conky : Conky: too many interfaces used (limit is 16) any idea ?11:05
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QuoVadis< itchi> Yes, if ugot the desktop version, u can install server11:06
TheGateKeeperitchi: probable better off getting the server cd then adding the desktop if you want it11:06
jvaihey all, i dl'ed xgalaga game from the repo, but it didnt go into "games" in the apps menu, i can only get to it from the command line11:07
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Knifajvai: add it to the menu.11:07
THX-1138jvai - you can right click on your desktop create a launcher or use the alacarte menu editor from the drop down menu.11:08
jvailol.. um, i dont have alacarte, i'm on 5.04 still :(11:08
IcemanV9jvai: refresh the gnome-panel by do this in the terminal "killall gnome-panel" .. if it doesn't add to the menu then edit it like others said11:08
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AmaranthWow, 5.04 didn't even have smeg11:08
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jvailmao11:08
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jvaiwhatr's smeg?11:09
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porkpieGuy's how can I tell if the 64bit kernel is actually workin11:09
porkpieg11:09
itchiTheGateKeeper: To be honenst, i want to try the new Ubuntu (desktop) in an virtual computer. Probably i gona test the server version also.11:09
tonyyarusso!info smeg breezy11:09
ubotusmeg: simple menu editing. In component main, is optional. Version 0.7.5-0ubuntu2 (breezy), package size 17 kB, installed size 212 kB11:09
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THX-1138Amaranth - PPPOE/DSL establishes a connection then drops it and needs to be restarted manually. Any tips? - erm i meant "Hi Amaranth.11:10
jvai<-- gonna try to dl smeg to hoary11:10
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AmaranthTHX-1138: hehe, never used it11:10
THX-1138Amaranth - lol - Okay. Thanks.11:10
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TheGateKeeperitchi: sounds like a good plan :-)11:10
jvaidapper's gona b the vista killa11:11
BHSPitLappylol11:11
lupine_85fingers crossed ;)11:11
jvailol11:11
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lupine_85oh, wait... that's BSD11:11
itchiTheGateKeeper: I already runs Debian Etch on desktop computers and Sarge on servers here. Just now want to play with the new version of Ubuntu ;-)11:11
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kyjahou5ton made it back yet??11:11
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itchiTheGateKeeper: So i guess that i can have access to the server packages?? It's just an matter of an line in the sources.list?11:12
jvaiopenbsd will b the iss killa11:12
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THX-1138Can't sharpen a pitchfork here. ---   Gets naked and prepares to dance in a circle?11:12
aadamsHi11:12
psycose_hi11:12
TheGateKeeperitchi: yep you got it11:12
aadamscan someone tell me how to open gnome menu in a launcher Bar ?11:13
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jvaii need to stop playin around & upgrade from hoary to dapper11:13
TheGateKeeper!repos > itchi11:13
lupine_85stop by breezy on the way11:13
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TheGateKeeperitchi: pm explains how ubuntu organises it's repos11:13
aadamsNoone can tell me ?11:13
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psycose_i've block the upgrade some all kernel package on synaptic (edit => block package version) but when i do a apt-get upgrade it show the blocked package on the list to be upgraded ... any tips? thanks11:14
jvaiwhat's the equivilent of 5.04 hoary to a debian distro? is it sid?11:14
TheGateKeeperitchi: will be home from home :-)11:14
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itchiTheGateKeeper: Thanks for the infos ;-)11:14
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TheGateKeeperitchi: btw you can also use synaptic if you want to as the GUI package manager11:15
itchiTheGateKeeper: Yup yup ;-)11:15
itchiTheGateKeeper: apt :-p11:15
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itchiTheGateKeeper: Or maybe, better aptitude install ... ;-)11:15
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THX-1138Ubuntu is great. just can't seem to get that first splash screen image out of my head. even if the sentiment is humanity.11:16
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itchiTheGateKeeper: That's funny of GNU/Linux, so big and many tools :-)11:16
TheGateKeeperitchi: yep, that too11:16
jvaii fell in lub w/ the ubuntu start up / shutdown sound..lol11:16
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THX-1138jvai - Yeppers - rewally well done.11:17
TheGateKeeperitchi: probable you seen it all before but here you are ---> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper11:17
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jvaitru dat11:17
itchi7 minutes left before donwload are done ...11:17
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itchiTheGateKeeper: That's super been documented!11:17
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aadamsIs there any command to start the gnome-menu ?11:18
TheGateKeeperitchi: loads of info on the wiki site & forums too11:18
goblorhi guys11:18
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bruenigwhat is the gnome-menu?11:18
goblorhaving a very annoying problem installing ubuntu11:18
bruenigthat applications, places, system, thing11:18
TheGateKeeperitchi: you tried kanotix just out of curiosity?11:18
bruenig?11:18
aadamsthe applications Menu in gnome-panel11:19
goblorwhile booting it wants to mount /dev/md0 this makes my harddisk busy11:19
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rellisbruenig: A menu used to select gnomes.11:19
goblori cannot boot11:19
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THX-1138The Ubuntu mission statement promises so much more than any other OS. I was hooked.11:19
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bruenigrellis, ah thanks for clearing that up11:19
rellis=p11:19
goblorany ideas?11:19
itchiTheGateKeeper: Yup11:19
DethKlokHow do i enable SNMP?11:19
bruenigaadams, I know it can be shortcutted, not certain of the exact command11:19
TheGateKeeperitchi: what did you think of it?11:19
aadamsI need the command to start it from a seperate launch bar11:19
goblorother to ask: is there a grub option to disable mdadm stuff11:19
itchiTheGateKeeper: A bit limited. I like the live cd's for his principe, but i not like to work with it11:20
FunnyLookinHat!easysource11:20
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic11:20
itchiTheGateKeeper: Gona boot him up, right now11:20
TheGateKeeperitchi: ok :-)11:21
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goblorthx anyway11:21
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itchiTheGateKeeper: It's the 2005-04 version, a bit old now it think11:21
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tabiashow the hell do I get tv to work on ubuntu (followed every manual, mythtv can't install// tvtime doesn't have a source) got a hauppauge 878 pci card11:22
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maxamillionanyone know how to config dual monitors on an ati card no longer supported by official ati drivers?11:22
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itchitabias: When you load the module, it's possible that you need to tell wich tuner you use11:25
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itchimaxamillion: I not know about the Ubuntu way, but on the TLDP there are some docs explaining how to get it11:25
NUTThello folks, I'm new to ubuntu and I've been cursed!11:26
gregmattersen<-newb here, just installed ubuntu on older HP laptop, worked great until I closed lid (which started suspend mode).  now the laptop will not start back up, any ideas?11:26
itchitabias: Wich type is it?11:26
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tabiashauppauge pci (chip 878)11:26
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tabiasit doesn't find a source11:26
itchitabias: lspci what as output?11:26
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itchiTheGateKeeper: Ow, kanotix is booting, some parts are realy beautifull and some horible :-/11:27
tabiasall it is showing is nvidia stuff and creative (and motherboard but no hauppauge etc)11:27
NUTTI have an old toshiba portege 3410CT running dapper and I'm trying to install a V4 WPC54G, yup, I'm in some kind of living hell!!11:27
itchitabias: Can you paste the whole lspci output on an pastebin?11:28
tabiassure11:28
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tabias!pastbin11:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:28
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lupine_85!paste11:29
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:29
itchiTheGateKeeper: That rounded spash screen is beautifull, but around, the wallpapers suck a bit11:29
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tabiasitchi: http://paste.uni.cc/1074311:29
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TheGateKeeperitchi: think I will at least have to give it a try, like arch but can't figure a way to install clutter free KDE, like kororaa/gentoo, but need to sleep at night so can't leave my pc running 24/7 for a big emerge11:29
dmeI remember seeing on the www.ubuntu.com website an Ubuntu cd that could be ordered for computers without an internet connection, but now i can't find it anymore; has it been disconnected?11:29
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NUTTcould anyone help me with this WPC54G ?V4 WNIC? pleeeaze?11:29
itchitabias: Line 1911:30
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TheGateKeeperitchi: I could change the wallpaper :-)11:30
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tabiasyeah that stuff is it11:30
itchiTheGateKeeper: Yeah, right ;-)11:30
gregmattersendme: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/11:30
tabiasbut  I don't have an idea how to put the source in tvtime :s11:30
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dmegregmatterson: it's not there, unless i'm blind11:30
itchitabias: When you start tvtime. What get you exaclty?11:30
HumanPrototypehi all, is it possible to "upgrade" from 32bit to 64bit?11:31
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anemonecurrently i have a ide hdd with linux & windows, just got a sata drive & i want that to take its place...any way to do this while keeping both os's bootable?11:31
dmethe thing i'm trying to get around is how long the install takes: downloading all the apt packages takes almost an hour ... if i could skip that step and come back to it later, or, preferably, have all that data on a cd, i could do my experimental installs a lot quicker11:31
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vulcaniumhey guys11:31
ucordeshow can i find out what pairing key my bluetooth uses?11:31
mumbleserverhttp://johnedmondson.pastebin.co.uk/393011:31
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david_hiya11:31
mumbleserverthere you go thats th real one all those who are intrested11:31
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tabiasI get a blue screen: no signal and on the bottom:pwc: numeral result out of range Cannot open capture device /dev/Video011:32
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vulcaniumI am having some issues with sound that I can't seem to get sorted out11:32
david_has anyone gotten an error:/usr/lib/vmware-player/lib/libgcc_s.so.1/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_4.2.0' not found (required by /usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.6).   ?11:32
vulcaniumIt works11:32
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vulcaniumbut, the I get no output for the front hanels11:33
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boinkmeans you need gcc 4.2.011:33
vulcaniumnor does apdif out work11:33
mumbleserverdose that mean anything to anyone ?11:33
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itchitabias: Is the module already loaded? lsmod | grep bttv11:33
fooI am trying to set up an ssh user and chroot him so all he can do is ssh in to me, and then ssh out... and that's it. I followed this: http://www.ffnn.nl/pages/articles/linux/setting-up-a-chroot-jail-for-cvs.php#contentstart - but for some reason, the user isn't able to login. Any ideas?11:33
abbot45does anyone know if there is a GUI program that works like "cat" in the terminal?11:33
maxLFHey I got skippy sound in WOW under wine, how do I fix this?11:33
david_gcc 4.2 isnt out yet, is it?11:33
dyn-afkabbot45 try gedit11:33
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NUTTany idea how many people have beaten themselves to death with a Linksys wpc54g v4, a toshiba portege and a ubuntu cd??11:33
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boinkwhat's your gcc -v ?11:33
dyn-afkgedit is an editor but you can view text files as well :)11:34
itchitabias: In my case when i load the module, i need to specify which tunner i need to use and which tchipset; so i do  modprobe bttv card=100 tuner=511:34
mumbleserverNUTT,  one sec11:34
tabiashttp://paste.uni.cc/1074511:34
mumbleserverive got a link that might help you11:34
PhuzionI'm having DNS errors11:34
abbot45dyn-afk - i need it to join files together.  i use cat to rejoin seperated video & audio files.11:34
gregmattersenanyone?  laptop won't boot after suspending in Ubuntu.  tried everything i can think of, any ideas?11:34
NUTTa thousand thanks mumbleserv11:34
PhuzionCan someone help me diagnose my problem?11:34
PhlostenNUTT: 11 so far, there is a record page on the wiki :)11:34
boinkwhat's the problem?11:34
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dyn-afkabbot45 you can use audicity if you want an audio editor11:35
Phuzionunknown host google.com when the machine that I'm on right next to it on the same exact switch is fine11:35
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dyn-afkfor video I don't know,maybe something like avidemux will do11:35
rleatherswhy not just change the users shell from bash to a script you write that prompts for user input as the argument to an ssh command ?11:35
boinkwhat's in your /etc/resolv.conf ?11:35
Phuzionnameserver 192.168.1.111:35
rleathersforget the chroot jail if all they need to do is turn right around and ssh elsewhere11:35
boinktry putting in a real nameserver in their, from your isp11:35
mumbleserverdont know if it will help uyou though11:36
pike__NUTT: that laptop should be pretty nice for linux, same for linksys router..11:36
boinkinstead of using the router11:36
itchitabias: Okay, it's loaded. There is an need to know which card type you need to point to and to which tunner. Aka modprobe bttv card=100 tuner=511:36
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abbot45dyn-afk - not really what i'm after.  too much unnecessary converting & encoding and stuff.11:36
maxLFhow do I get rid of the skippy/cruddy quality of sound in world of warcraft?11:36
mumbleshttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear there you go NUTT11:36
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Phuzionboink:  192.168.1.1 works11:36
PhuzionI know it does11:36
boinkit's not now11:36
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PhuzionThis machine has that same nameserver11:36
ucordeshow can i set the bluetooth security key for my ubuntu?11:36
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boinkput in your isp's nameserver and see if it will work11:37
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joeCoThey, question: is there a way to locally fake a cname?11:37
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abbot45using "cat" will just slap the files end to end if they are named correctly.11:37
itchitabias: Know you which chip you have? do an search on http://bttv-gallery.de/11:37
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histeris it advisable to install ubuntu onto a fat32 partition?11:37
TheGateKeeperPhuzion: router isn't doing something silly like blocking because it been set up to only allow certain pc's through with certain mac addresses or something like that?11:37
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abbot45nevermind.  i'll just use the command line to do it.11:37
hister!fat11:38
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse11:38
foominerale: yo11:38
boinkmost routers are total junk11:38
hister!fat3211:38
david_not quite as fast, I dont think fat is journalled, but should be ok11:38
NUTTthe toshiba portege that I'm using flew using xubuntu but I couldn't get the blessed wnic to work, I noticed that someone had managed it with ubuntu full so I figured i'd give it a go, guess what, I'm no futher forward in my lead booted wading into the world of linux!! :D11:38
bruenighister, don't think so11:38
itchitabias: Search on the brand and model of your tv card. You get then the chips there are in. It's important, like we need to tell modpore bttv which chip and tuner he gona use11:38
PhuzionTheGateKeeper: I11:38
PhuzionTheGateKeeper: I11:38
Phlostenhister: no11:38
ucordesanybody?11:38
tabiask11:38
Phuzionuhhg11:38
histerPhlosten: doesn't work, or is slow?11:38
Phlosteni would be thinking, doesnt work11:38
pike__hister: slow and crappy11:38
PhuzionTheGateKeeper: I'm pretty sure that it's not blocking any pc's11:38
Phuzionactually11:38
Phuzionpositive11:39
pike__hister: and might not work11:39
Phlostenhister: fat32 isnt journalised like ext3 etc11:39
TheGateKeeperPhuzion: just a thought11:39
itchitabias: Tell me if there is somethings, or need more help11:39
rleathersis there a bigmem kernel package for Ubuntu 6.06 ?   I need to support 8GB RAM11:39
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joeCoTis there a way to locally fake a cname? using host.conf or dnsmasque?11:39
boinkrleathers: in 64 or 32 bit?11:39
rleathers3211:40
boink32 can't support 8 gig ram11:40
david_how do I install gcc 4.2.0, its not in the repos?11:40
histerPhlosten: well I want to be able to read my linux stuffs from windows, and still have a large space on ntfs to install games and stuff... can I just install / on a very small ext3 partition, and /home on the fat11:40
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boinkdavid_: you compile it11:40
Phlostenhister: there is an ext3 plugin for windows11:40
itchitabias: On http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/BTTV/#TUNMOD you have an list with the tv tunner and the corresponding number. Idem for the card, need to go an dir up11:41
Phuzionif anyone is gonna say something to me, i'll be back in like 5 i just had a major netsplit on one of my networks, brb11:41
david_should that fix the11:41
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david_/usr/lib/vmware-player/lib/libgcc_s.so.1/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_4.2.0' not found (required by /usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.6).11:41
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david_error?11:41
histerPhlosten: yeah but does it read/write reliably and at a decent speed?11:41
boinkgcc 4.2.0 not found, just as it says11:41
oslohellO11:41
oslohow could i switch all programs language from english to french on my kubuntu please ??11:41
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Phlostenhister: no idea, i ditched windows a long time ago11:41
itchitabias: In my case i have an tuner Philips PAL_BG (FI1216 and compatibles) so the code is tunner=5. See the previous link11:41
georgyoslo : install the language packs11:41
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ucordeswhat do i need to do in order to pair ubuntu with my cell phone using bluetooth?11:42
bruenighister, yeah there is a driver to allow full ext3 read write on linux, but alternately you could create another partition that was fat32 and put your stuff in there, I wouldn't recommend creating a /home partition as fat32 though11:42
pike__oslo: someone here might be able to help but if not /join kubuntu channel11:42
Phlostenhister: at the end of the day I am pretty sure Ubuntu will need all ext311:42
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bruenighister, http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html11:42
upatelhi11:42
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Phlostenthanks bruenig, couldnt remember the url11:42
oslogeorgy> how can it be automaticaly ?11:42
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oslopike__> already done11:42
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georgyoslo : with adept or synaptic from internet11:42
itchitabias: Once you get that working, probably you first need to   tvtime-scanner11:42
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oslogeorgy> be done sorry11:43
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HumanPrototypeany idea if upgrading from 32bit to 64bit is possible then?11:43
boinkodd, I want to install mutt .. and it's installing postfix to11:44
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mineraleCould someone help me, I have installed grub, and now my hard drive is corrupted11:45
mineralegrub does not seem to boot correctly anymore, the windows xp cd does not recognised the computer, the windows vista cd boots but can not repair the drive11:45
joeCoTis there a way to locally fake a cname? using host.conf or dnsmasque?11:45
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azizhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii11:45
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LjLminerale: uhm... perhaps the drive is just broken? do you have S.M.A.R.T. reporting enabled in the BIOS?11:45
aziz_slaaaaaaam11:45
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itchiminerale: Take an an tool like cdrescue or so and look what's going with the partitions ?11:46
pike__minerale: boot from the ubuntu livecd or knoppix i cant imagine the windows cd being of much use..11:46
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mumbleserverNUTT, dose that hlep?11:46
RiesHey all... does anybody know a site when I can read about making a custom (minimal) install CD for ubuntu? I compiled my own kernel and I need to use that during installation11:46
IznougoudHi folks. Just installed Ubuntu, and could do with some guidance on the basics..11:46
mart_hi, ive been trying for a week to get my worspace switcher working again11:46
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mart_at the moment it will only allow one workspace, anyone heard of this before?11:47
mineraleljl: I can boot linux just fine, it's located in the second partition and I use a flash disk with grub installed11:47
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itchitabias: Been following? I know it's a bit pain on the ass to know about the chips the card is been using. And if you not know about it, it's a bit searching ;-). Tell me if you find it and can go your way11:47
TheGateKeeperminerale: if you have windows on your system then you could try fixmbr, google for that on the microsoft site11:47
habeebHello, I downloaded the tarball of iceweasel. Untarred it, and I opened the iceweasel binary with ./iceweasel. If I want to put that command on a launcher. How do I do that?11:47
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LjL!customlivecd > ries11:47
psycose_i've block kernel-38611:47
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RiesLjL: thanks11:48
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fooI am trying to set up an ssh user and chroot him so all he can do is ssh in to me, and then ssh out... and that's it. I followed this: http://www.ffnn.nl/pages/articles/linux/setting-up-a-chroot-jail-for-cvs.php#contentstart - but for some reason, the user isn't able to login. Any ideas?11:48
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rleathersOK, about bigmem - - my dmesg output says to use a PAE enabled kernel  (I want to use 8GB RAM)11:48
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LjLRies: dunno if the site talks about them, but i know there are at least two semi-automated tools for making custom cds. they're called... uh...11:48
rleathersso is there a bigmem package for Ubuntu like in Red Hat ?11:48
rleatherserrrr kernel11:49
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NUTTah close mumbles, but no cigar I'm afraid, the V4 card appears to be fashioned from the bowels of hell and some freakish chipset called "IPROCOMM IPN 2220 (rev 01)" Its like a slow and painful death but PCMCIA shaped!11:49
crimsunrleathers: just use the -server kernel.11:49
jvailol11:49
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TheLancewhats up guys11:49
psycose_using synaptic i've block kernel-image 2.6.15.xx but now the system wants to install kernel-image 2.6.15-27 is it because i've install kernel-image-386 ? thanks11:49
BHSPitLappyehh11:50
LjLRies: blah, i can't remember11:50
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TheLancehey does anyone know if I can get a 1440X900 resolution in ubuntu?11:50
habeebHello, I downloaded the tarball of iceweasel. Untarred it, and I opened the iceweasel binary with ./iceweasel. If I want to put that command on a launcher. How do I do that?11:50
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CVirusanybody succeeded in getting the Wireless Broadcom 4311 to work ?11:50
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LjLTheLance: you can (if your monitor can), but you need to add a modeline manually to your xorg.conf11:50
mineralethegatekeeper: the problem is that the windows xp cd says I do not have a hard drive at all (the vista cd recognises it but doesn ot have fixmbr )11:50
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TheLancewhere is that file LjL?11:51
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TheLancedo you have an apt-get command for me to edit it?11:51
LjLTheLance: apt-get is a command used to install packages, not to edit files. that file is at /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and you can edit it using "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"11:51
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agentin openoffice calc, how do i make two columns be the x and y axis in a chart?11:51
TheLancethanks LJL11:52
LjLTheLance: as for actually writing the modeline, perhaps try http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl11:52
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anemonecurrently i have a ide hdd with linux & windows, just got a sata drive & i want that to take its place...any way to do this while keeping both os's bootable?11:52
tecywiz121heym quick question, and if this the wrong place to ask, please direct me :P,  are there and journalling file systems that work r/w in both linux and windows?11:52
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jmitchjHey, just installed ATI Drivers to get the ATI Control Panel...ATI Control appears on the Application list but I get this error when I try to start it..."Could not launch menu item, Details: Failed to execute child process "fireglcontrolpanel (No such file or directory) ...any ideas on how to fix this?11:52
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itchiagent: Try /msg chanserv list *openoffice*11:52
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vulcaniumwhat sound card is best supported under ubuntu?11:53
histervulcanium: I'm sure there are plenty that work fine out of the box.11:53
TheLancethanks i'll tell you how it works here11:54
joeCoTis there a way to locally fake a cname? using host.conf or dnsmasque?11:54
agentitchi: thanks11:54
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histervulcanium: I've never had a problem with my sound card with ubuntu, other than a misconfigured alsa which has nothing to do with the card.11:54
vulcaniumwell11:55
vulcaniummine definatly does not work fine11:55
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vulcaniumonboard auio on a DFI ultra d11:55
vulcaniumI've gotten to work, but only barely11:55
itchiGona give it again an try, in qemu when i try to install ubuntu, he always fail on 15% when he make the partitions11:55
vulcaniumserverly distorted sound and its really quiet11:55
histerI cannot believe, by the way, that this is the only distro I could find that boots up with my dwl-g520 rev b1 (atheros, uses madwifi) working out of the box!11:55
quietshhh11:55
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shwagmysql wont start11:56
histerI feel like overkill using xubuntu desktop as my primary livecd!11:56
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anemonevulcanium, i have got a working cm 873811:56
shwagerror "cant connect to local MySQL server11:56
TheGateKeepervulcanium: if you have found a sound card that doesn't work under ubuntu, given the devs have removed alsaconf, then you need to file a bug report11:56
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histerI was *shocked* knoppix wouldn't do it. I thought it was the king for wireless.11:56
jmitchjHey, just installed ATI Drivers to get the ATI Control Panel...ATI Control appears on the Application list but I get this error when I try to start it..."Could not launch menu item, Details: Failed to execute child process "fireglcontrolpanel (No such file or directory) ...any ideas on how to fix this?11:56
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anemoneshwag, is it running sudo /etc/init.d/mysqld ( <- something like that) start11:56
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shwaganemone: thats the one11:57
babwe2hello all my first time here11:57
habeeb$ cd /home/habeeb/Downloads/iceweasel/ ; ./iceweasel ; done11:57
habeebbash: syntax error near unexpected token `done'11:57
shwaganemone: was working before.11:57
habeebWhere is the mistake? :/11:57
anemoneshwag, what happens when u try to start it?11:57
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itchihabeeb: cd /home/habeeb/Downloads/iceweasel/ ; ./iceweasel11:57
Gabby_Hayes welcome  babwe2 ...11:57
itchihabeeb: What between the both??11:57
babwe2I have one q what is segmentation fault when u install a aps11:58
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habeebWhat do you mean itchi ? (btw, thanks)11:58
itchihabeeb: You first do cd /home/habeeb/Downloads/iceweasel/ ; then what with ./icweasel?11:58
babwe2thx gabby11:58
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Gabby_Hayesbabwe2 .. means that thatapp wasn't behaving ..11:58
vulcaniumTheGateKeeper: what did alsoconf do?11:58
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TheGateKeepervulcanium: use it for installing sound drivers11:59
itchihabeeb: You need to do somethings with ./icweasel. Maybe cd in it?? But looks strange your command. What want you to do?11:59
habeebitchi: it just opens the binary iceweasel inside. ./~/Downloads/iceweasel/iceweasel. Didnt work11:59
vulcaniumah11:59
babwe2it in the repo for ubuntu 5.1011:59
vulcaniumwell I tried everythign in that sound guide11:59
habeebitchi: iceweasel is a binary inside the directory iceweasel11:59
babwe2called drip11:59
vulcaniumnothing made any change11:59
itchihabeeb: Is it x?11:59
XxTwitchxXDoes anyone know how to change the login splash screen on GNOME?11:59
TheGateKeepervulcanium: or at least you would if the devs hadn't removed it11:59
itchihabeeb: Executable i mean11:59
Gabby_Hayesbabwe2 .. sounds like a corrupted file .. a new install?11:59
habeebitchi: yes12:00
vulcaniumI can't just add in back in somehow TheGateKeeper?12:00
habeebAnyway itchi, thanks for helping me out. Gotta sleep now. GOod night!12:00
itchihabeeb: Need you not 'sh ./icweasel; echo "done"'?12:00
TheGateKeepervulcanium: the driver?12:00
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