[12:01] <boink> icecast2 supports ogg and mp3, no problem
[12:01] <Buglouse> well i need to stream mp3 so that doesn't really affect me
[12:02] <boink> I'm not sure of the status of the darkice .deb on ubuntu
[12:02] <boink> I don't know if mp3 support is included
[12:02] <boink> otherwise, you may need to compile it yourself with the lame libraries
[12:02] <RobHu> rcmiv: http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/bz/bz_proc.htm
[12:02] <Buglouse> it is for me... all the fourms and faq and help sections have lead me to believe that as long as i have lame installed to begin with then streaming mp3 files to a shoutcast server will be no prob
[12:02] <cb> I have flash installed. In fact, I have no trouble with google video. But sites like www.spiketv.com won't let me in! That site says I have no flash. Any help?
[12:03] <RobHu> rcmiv: So I'm guessing no
[12:03] <boink> is lame an ubuntu .deb?
[12:03] <Ronz> hey yall...ive been having problems with my nvidia drivers. got everything installed, changed my xorg.conf file, and whenever the "nvidia" driver is loaded, it sticks on a black screen and doesn't go anywhere. anyone have an idea?
[12:03] <Buglouse> rpm
[12:03] <boink> rpm? that isn't ubuntu
[12:03] <LSD`> boink: probably not
[12:03] <Buglouse> io know
[12:03] <LSD`> boink: rpm is red hat
[12:04] <boink> thus, the darkice .deb may not have mp3 support in it.
[12:04] <tempered> can I play World oF Warcraft on Ubuntu?
[12:04] <Ronz> tempered, yes
[12:04] <Buglouse> boink: Lame is installed using Synaptic
[12:04] <Nicole> guys, are you mad at me???Do you know a msn to ue microphone an web cam
[12:04] <`blink> apt-get install world_of_warcraft
[12:04] <`blink> :)
[12:04] <boink> heh
[12:04] <LSD`> Nicole: amsn
[12:04] <Ronz> lol
[12:04] <tempered> heh, that'd be nice
[12:04] <RobHu> rcmiv: Core 2 Duo's use socket LGA775, that motherboard is a socket mPGA478. So the chip wouldn't even fit, much less work :S
[12:05] <Ronz> tempered, in order to get WoW working, you need to install wine
[12:05] <`blink> nope
[12:05] <`blink> there is a wow under linux
[12:05] <Ronz> Nicole, what are you trying to do?
[12:05] <tempered> isn't there a commercial version of wine?
[12:05] <RobHu> tempered: Cedega
[12:05] <Ronz> `blink, are you sure? bliz never released a linux version of wow to my knowledge...
[12:06] <LSD`> wow is supposed to work under the normal wine too
[12:06] <`blink> w8
[12:06] <RobHu> rcmiv: That motherboard was desiged for a chip that came out 3 years ago. The Core 2 Duo wasn't even a research prototype at that point.
[12:06] <`blink> i will check on my wow box
[12:06] <Buglouse> boink: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/29235/?highlight=
[12:06] <Nicole> ronz: I have some friends, they have windows, and I wanna talk to them , look I gotta microphone and the cam, (can wait) but I wanna talk
[12:06] <rcmiv> RobHu, thanks for the link
[12:06] <RobHu> rcmiv: np
[12:06] <tempered> Can you use Cedega/wine for stuff like printers and scanners if they won't work under Linux drivers?
[12:06] <rcmiv> my hopes are dashed
[12:06] <Ronz> Nicole, what chat client are they using?
[12:07] <Buglouse> boink: i believe that that fourm should help me... but i cant read it qq
[12:07] <RobHu> rcmiv: I found this all out from the wikipedia entries on Core 2 Duo, and Pentium 4
[12:07] <LSD`> RobHu: the 865 (and probably 875) can support C2D tho apparently
[12:07] <RobHu> rcmiv: and that page
[12:07] <RobHu> LSD`: You're talking about chipset support though aren't you? His mobo is not physically compatible.
[12:07] <RobHu> Or rather the socket isn't.
[12:07] <Ronz> Nicole, is it MSN your trying to use?
[12:08] <RobHu> rcmiv: Why do you need that particular board to be supported?
[12:08] <tuxtux> notte a tutti
[12:08] <RobHu> rcmiv: Is that what you have?
[12:08] <LSD`> RobHu: yeah, the chipset itself will support it though unless they give it an LGA775 socket it won't fit
[12:08] <rcmiv> RobHu, yep
[12:08] <RobHu> LSD`: Yeah, that was the point I was making.
[12:08] <ashzilla> Hi friends. I just got an error in Azureus that states Java 1.4.2 is not compatible with my version of Azureus
[12:08] <rcmiv> RobHu, the P4 3.2 runs _hot_. I hate it
[12:08] <ashzilla> How can I update java?
[12:09] <LSD`> RobHu: that's the prescotts for you
[12:09] <LSD`> rcmiv I meant, stupid completeion
[12:09] <rcmiv> LSD, yep
[12:09] <Nicole> ronz, I tried, amsn, gaim, kopete and kmess
[12:09] <rcmiv> LSD, bad design, that
[12:09] <RobHu> rcmiv: What about a Pentium D?
[12:09] <Nicole> ronz, got nothing
[12:10] <LSD`> rcmiv: the P4 in general was a bad design, the prescott was just a particularly bad revision
[12:10] <b03nto> ashzilla, maybe u can d/w java bin ur self ?
[12:10] <kuiper> how do i inmount a smbmount share?
[12:10] <Ronz> Nicole, let me see if i can get on MSN via gaim
[12:10] <rcmiv> RobHu, will research, thanks
[12:10] <LSD`> kuiper: umount /mount/point like any other
[12:10] <kuiper> LSD' thank u
[12:11] <LSD`> rcmiv: you'll have to replace the mobo but the Core 2 Duos are the way to go
[12:11] <RobHu> rcmiv: You can get a Core 2 Duo compatible mobo for 45 dollars (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813185086) ... I assume you are american
[12:11] <Nicole> ronz, I can use all of 'em , but I wanna listen and talk with my nice voice, u knw what i mean
[12:11] <Ronz> hey Nicole, i just used gAIM and got on msn. when you added the account, did you pick the drop down box for msn?
[12:11] <Ronz> Nicole, i know what you mean. have you tried jabber by chance?
[12:12] <rcmiv> Probably will drop a new mobo and go c2d, yes I'm in the u.s.
[12:12] <LSD`> lol, jabber's a solution looking for a problem
[12:12] <Nicole> ronz, what's jabber
[12:12] <LSD`> RobHu: PC Chips? ugh...
[12:12] <RobHu> rcmiv: Core 2 is a fantastic chip, I have a Pentium D 805 which is the gen before
[12:12] <Ronz> Nicole, its also another client. i haven't messed with it, but its worth a try. =)
[12:12] <RobHu> rcmiv: More than enough for me though - I don't really see why most users need dual core
[12:13] <RobHu> LSD`: Agreed, but I just wanted to show how cheap a mobo would cost, and I assume from his question that he wants to spend as little as possible :P
[12:13] <keegan_> !restricted
[12:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:13] <RobHu> Now before I wander off does anyone have any idea how to stop my screen blanking?
[12:13] <ashzilla> What package file should I install to have the most updated java version.
[12:13] <LSD`> RobHu: Still, PC CHips...
[12:13] <anon32> ashzilla, libgcj I think..
[12:14] <RobHu> rcmiv: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?SrchInDesc=core&Page=1&Category=20&Nty=1&N=2010200280&Submit=ENE&Subcategory=280
[12:14] <RobHu> rcmiv: You might also want to search for 775...
[12:14] <ashzilla> !java
[12:14] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:14] <nomin> VideoDownloader  https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2390/
[12:15] <ashzilla> Fuck. 80MB just for the java runtime environemnt.
[12:15] <ashzilla> D:
[12:15] <johny5> Anyone know of any good native linux dictation utilities?
[12:15] <anon32> ashzilla, language and that's dependencies, right?
[12:15] <RobHu> ashzilla: It /is Java/ :-) Imagine how little memory you'll have soon :-P
[12:15] <joejaxx> !language
[12:15] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:15] <kuiper> LSD' thanks with that my small shitty media center box is complete!
[12:16] <ashzilla> RobHu: hahahahahhah, I'm a CS student at UCI, and all we've worked with the first 2 years is java/scheme
[12:16] <ashzilla> Everyone always bashes java... I'm a novice myself, so I just follow the bandwagon :D
[12:17] <kuiper> exit
[12:17] <LSD`> kuiper: np
[12:17] <youser> hey guys
[12:17] <RobHu> ashzilla: It is something of a beast http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/gp4/benchmark.php?test=all&lang=all&calc=Calculate&xfullcpu=0&xmem=1&xloc=0&binarytrees=1&chameneos=1&message=1&fannkuch=1&fasta=1&knucleotide=1&mandelbrot=1&nbody=1&nsieve=1&nsievebits=1&partialsums=1&pidigits=1&recursive=1&regexdna=1&revcomp=1&spectralnorm=1&hello=0&sumcol=1
[12:17] <youser> i cant get ctcp xdcc send commands to work in gnome xchat or lostirc
[12:17] <rcmiv> Core 2
[12:17] <RobHu> ashzilla: Java is a great language, but it has certain drawbacks - memory usage is probably the main one.
[12:18] <youser> anyonek now o a real good irc client for ubuntu that i can download stuff with ctcp
[12:18] <LSD`> youser: irssi :P
[12:18] <b03nto> is it really 80 MB, thats huge...
[12:18] <zenit> youser: those commands should work in any client
[12:18] <youser> hmm
[12:19] <loper06> speaking about java. whats an alternative torrent client that manages multiple torrents as an alt. to azerues.
[12:19] <LSD`> loper06: rtorrent
[12:19] <johny5> loper06, freeloader
[12:19] <jester45> loper06: or ktorrent
[12:19] <ashzilla> RobHu: So C and C++ are both languages that leave more efficient memory footprints?
[12:19] <LSD`> loper06: it's text mode, you just put it in a screen session and let it do its thing in the bg
[12:19] <Xavier101> azureuas is still the best on features
[12:20] <Xavier101> ktorrent is pretty good as well
[12:20] <jester45> loper06: or ctorrent (cui)
[12:20] <LSD`> Xavier101: tru dat
[12:20] <loper06> what has the lowest memory footprint btw
[12:20] <loper06> and is gui
[12:20] <jester45> loper06: i say ctorrent
[12:20] <jester45> o ctorrent is cui
[12:20] <ashzilla> I wish they'd port Utorrent to the Unixes
[12:21] <loper06> thx
[12:21] <LSD`> I'd use Az over utorrent depsite the java fottprint
[12:21] <ashzilla> jester45: by cui do you mean cli?
[12:21] <LSD`> I can't stand the way utorrent manages it's queue
[12:21] <jester45> i would use utorrent over az becuaSE i know utorrent very well
[12:21] <jester45> ashzilla: yea sorry
[12:22] <Jei61X> Hello all - Question!
[12:22] <joejaxx> !ask
[12:22] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:22] <jester45> LSD`: you just have to set it up good
[12:22] <joejaxx> jester45: what is your question :)
[12:22] <THX-1138> jester45 - Did you know there is a game hidden inside utorrent?
[12:22] <youser> is there any chan onthis serverwheni coulddownload a file through ctcp?
[12:22] <THX-1138> Tetris
[12:23] <jester45> LSD`: hint hint advanced options
[12:23] <jester45> joejaxx: no i didnt
[12:23] <joejaxx> jester45: ?
[12:23] <Jei61X> I am going to need Ubuntu-compatible drivers for an NVidia graphics card and a SoundBlaster X-Fi sound card - where should I be looking?
[12:23] <SAM_theman> yo hommies
[12:23] <THX-1138> !soundblaster
[12:23] <ubotu> soundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth
[12:23] <jester45> joejaxx: i didnt know there was a hiddin game
[12:23] <LSD`> jester45: been there, done that, no "move to top" or "move to bottom" options. in fact, the ability to move torrents around at all seems to have disappeared in the latest version. The buttons are still there thye just don't work
[12:24] <nomin> "Download videos from Youtube, Google, Metacafe, iFilm, Dailymotion, Pornotube... and other 60+ video sites ! And all embedded objects on a webpage (movies, mp3s, flash, quicktime, etc) ! Directly !
[12:24] <nomin> "   VideoDownloader:  https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2390/
[12:24] <nomin> that's a good plugin for anyone that's interested
[12:24] <joejaxx> !ops
[12:24] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[12:24] <Seveas> joejaxx, ?
[12:24] <joejaxx> Seveas: spamming
[12:24] <ged_> anyone know why "aplay -D default /usr/share/firefox/res/samples/test.wav" would work but aplay -D hw:0,0 /usr/share/firefox/res/samples/test.wav"
[12:24] <ashzilla> so I just downloaded the most recent Java runtime enviroment package, but Azureus still states it is not compatable with java 1.4.2, what am I doing wrong?
[12:24] <Seveas> saw it, thanks!
[12:24] <joejaxx> Seveas: you are most welcome
[12:24] <ged_> would not?
[12:24] <Jei61X> I was afraid of that... Mine's not supported, just yet
[12:25] <Jei61X> As for the video card?
[12:25] <host1> lightning--
[12:25] <THX-1138> Jei61X:  > nvidia
[12:25] <jester45> anyone here want to teach (or write for) me a shell script to load a few diffrent things at once
[12:26] <Jei61X> meaning they make their own drivers... *headdesk*
[12:26] <ashzilla> so I just downloaded the most recent Java runtime enviroment package, but Azureus still states it is not compatable with java 1.4.2, what am I doing wrong?
[12:26] <jrib> jester45: thing1; thing2; thing3; ...
[12:26] <jester45> jrib: i dont know anything about shell scripting
[12:26] <jrib> jester45: that's it
[12:27] <LSD`> thing1 && thing2 && thing3 might be better as && causes it to bomb out if there's an error
[12:27] <host1> ashzilla, does apt not automatically recomend the needed packages?
[12:27] <THX-1138> Jei61X: nvidia-glx - will give you accesleration. - adding  "option" "RenderAccel" "true" will i think make it faster
[12:27] <ashzilla> host1: No, it doesn't.
[12:27] <__mikem> Hey seveas, as much as I hate spammers, I think I just might use nomin's plugin, it looks like I might be able to use it
[12:27] <host1> which ubuntu you using?
[12:27] <Jei61X> Fantastic!
[12:27] <ashzilla> host1: I just used the package suggested by !java and restarted Azureus.
[12:28] <ashzilla> host1: Yet it still says it is not compatible with Azurues (java 1.4.2)
[12:28] <THX-1138> Jei61X: add it justinside and  below the card description
[12:28] <jrib> jester45: here, try this on your command line:   firefox; gaim
[12:28] <host1> ashzilla: which ubuntu you using?
[12:28] <netster403> This is an urgent message:  Adc-elites, a popular fansub for OnePiece is urgently looking for a new translator, for more information see http://www.adc-heaven.com .  ThankYa ;)
[12:28] <ashzilla> host1: dapper
[12:28] <Jei61X> Thanks for the help!
[12:28] <ClayG> anyone here use a motorola router? and can tell me how to reset it to factory settings from buttons on the outside?
[12:28] <jester45> so do this as an example firefox && azureus && thunderbird && gaim && xfmedia
[12:29] <host1> oops
[12:29] <ClayG> i lost the password
[12:29] <ashzilla> Ewwww. People who "like to be different" aren't different at all; there's a slew of people who like to be different.
[12:29] <jester45> true true
[12:30] <ashzilla> People who know what they like are not afraid to honestly express themselves are different.
[12:30] <host1> who's the conformist, the people that are different to be different, or the everyday person considered the conformist?
[12:30] <jester45> the only way to be diffrent is to be the same
[12:30] <Zarephath> Anyone in here have mouse trouble in edgy? I know there is a channel for this...they didn't respond
[12:30] <host1> the only thing that is constant is change
[12:30] <RobHu> ashzilla: Mmm... these benchmarks show the results with the best implementations for those problems that people have submitted. It is reasonable to assume therefore that the answer to your question is yes.
[12:31] <LSD`> Zarephath: I'll let you know when my upgrade is done :P
[12:31] <ashzilla> RobHu: I like your logic. Woot.
[12:31] <ashzilla> So Ubuntu kiddies
[12:31] <RobHu> ashzilla: Heh
[12:31] <ashzilla> What Java package do I need to update to get Azureus working.
[12:31] <youser> i liketo be me
[12:31] <Homer> how do I compile the gnu compiler
[12:31] <RobHu> ashzilla: Java has several disadvantages but added to those is the problem that the virtual machine requires a lot of memory. Hence "Hello world" will use several MB.
[12:31] <Homer> if I don't have the compiler to compile with
[12:32] <Seveas> Homer, with a compiled version of itself
[12:32] <hobbesmaster> Homer: do you just want to install it?
[12:32] <Homer> did gcc compile itself?
[12:32] <RobHu> Homer: (the first 'compilers' were compiled by hand)
[12:32] <RobHu> Homer: (this is called bootstrapping)
[12:32] <__mikem> Hey Seveas, as much as I hate spammers, I think I am going to use that guys video plugin
[12:32] <Seveas> __mikem, feel free to do so ;)
[12:32] <youser> im feelin pretty synaptic today
[12:33] <ashzilla> Seveas: Do you know what java package I would need updated to fix Azureus? It states it is not compatable with Java 1.4.2
[12:33] <youser> get java 1.5
[12:33] <youser> thats just a suggestion
[12:33] <ashzilla> youser: what package is that?
[12:33] <Seveas> Ashex, sun-java5-jre
[12:33] <youser> i have no supporting information to tell you get 1.5
[12:33] <youser> besides that i have it
[12:34] <youser> hey what the f is irssi anyways/
[12:34] <youser> ubuntu says i have it installed
[12:34] <youser> but i dont sees i
[12:34] <youser> it
[12:34] <ashzilla> Alright, so apparently no one wants to tell me. I'll just resort to using machines.
[12:34] <ashzilla> (google)
[12:35] <youser> ashzilla ubuntuforums.org
[12:35] <youser> that place kicks ass u fcan find almost any ubuntu help you need
[12:35] <lakio> I'm somewhat new to ubuntu. I have intellij IDEA in my /home/username/apps/idea-5755/bin/idea.sh ----when I create an alacarte menu item here, it doesn't run. what gives??
[12:35] <jrib> youser: irssi runs in your terminal
[12:35] <youser> so itsnot an irc client/
[12:35] <youser> ?
[12:35] <jrib> youser: yes, it is an irc client
[12:36] <youser> does it run alone/
[12:36] <jrib> youser: yes?
[12:36] <youser> or i do i need "sarge"?
[12:36] <Zarephath> LSD': If you do have mouse issues reboot into the dapper kernel....then you can update...I just did this and saw a update to xorg-input-mouse
[12:36] <jrib> youser: I don't know what you mean
[12:36] <youser> hmm
[12:36] <youser> i cant find this myster irc client
[12:37] <Zarephath> LSD': Plus my mouse worked ;-P
[12:37] <jrib> youser: type 'irssi' in a terminal
[12:37] <Tussius> hey all
[12:37] <LSD`> Zarephath: I'm still knee-depp in the dist-upgrade
[12:37] <Tussius> is it normal for firefox to be slower on ubuntu than on windows?
[12:37] <youser> lolthaks dude
[12:37] <youser> never thought of that
[12:37] <youser> duh
[12:37] <youser> im an idiot
[12:37] <jrib> youser: http://myfiles.neu.edu/ribeiro.j/public/Screenshot-%7E.png
[12:38] <joejaxx> Tussius: which version
[12:38] <Zarephath> LSD': Bummer...I heard there are issues doing a manual edit of the repos...then doing dist-upgrade..good luck!
[12:38] <Tussius> joejaxx: The newest (6.0.6, also updated firefox)
[12:38] <totall_6_7> Tussius: i have found firefox to be faster on ubuntu than on windows
[12:38] <youser> wow this manual setup stuff is krazy
[12:38] <LSD`> Zarephath: I'll see when I get there
[12:38] <jrib> youser: irssi.org has good docs to get started
[12:39] <Zarephath> totall: I have found windows to run faster in vmware :-O
[12:39] <Ronz> hey yall, ive been having a time getting nvidia drivers to work...all it will do is load up, and stick at a black screen. nayone have an idea?
[12:39] <lakio> anyone?
[12:39] <youser> http://irssi.org/documentation/startup#c1think ve foudn them now
[12:39] <joejaxx> Tussius: the newer one is faster
[12:39] <joejaxx> Tussius: the other thing is what are youreffering too when you are talking about "faster"
[12:39] <Tussius> joejaxx: but the actual browser is normal, but it takes a long time to load non-cached sites
[12:40] <joejaxx> Tussius: make sure your firefox settings are the same for both
[12:40] <joejaxx> and then test it
[12:40] <Tussius> I deleted windows :p
[12:40] <joejaxx> Tussius: haha well nevermind then
[12:40] <srafx> can anyone help with a dual head ati big desktop?..running into weird problems..but so close
[12:40] <youser> any good irc clients that you dont have to do everything through code/
[12:40] <Ronz> nvidia drivers...anyone, anyone?
[12:40] <LSD`> youser: nope :P
[12:40] <Ronz> youser, xchat
[12:40] <youser> lol
[12:41] <youser> im on xchat
[12:41] <LSD`> Ronz: xchat's dodgy :P
[12:41] <Tussius> I also get "splash error" when I try to run a java program with sunjava (same program worked fine in windows)
[12:41] <youser> i just wanna ctcp properly
[12:41] <ashzilla> what is the . and .. that ls -hag returns in every folder?
[12:41] <joejaxx> !tell Ronz about nvidia
[12:42] <youser> btw this galeon web browser kicks ass
[12:42] <youser> no problems with javaor flash as mozilla gave me
[12:42] <LSD`> youser: you realise it's just a front to mozilla/firefox ;)
[12:42] <Ronz> joejaxx, been through that one. i have tried every wiki that google comes up with
[12:42] <youser> i dunno man
[12:42] <joejaxx> Ronz: :\
[12:42] <youser> but it seems to work better than mozilla
[12:43] <ashzilla> WHAT THE HECK!
[12:43] <srafx> anyone using big desktop on a dual head ati card?
[12:43] <LSD`> youser: it plugs into the rendering engine
[12:43] <fluxinator> youser its mozila based
[12:43] <youser> cool
[12:43] <LSD`> youser: try removing mozilla and/or firefox and ten bucks says you'll see galeonin the list of stuff it wants to remove
[12:43] <youser> must be my script blocker giving me unseen flash and java problems
[12:43] <Zarephath> Anyone know how to fix the error message in edgy that says it can't find icon evolution 2.6?
[12:44] <Zarephath> Nevermind...got it..
[12:45] <youser> well im off to find more techno to download off irc
[12:45] <maxLF> can someone send me to the current howto for installing and running world of warcraft?
[12:46] <Tru7h> When I try to sign onto MSN using Gaim, the window closes immediately after logging in.
[12:46] <Tru7h> Can anybody help?
[12:46] <Normal> Is there a reason that I can only use 2.6.12-9-386, as 2.6.15* always freeze when loading kernel..?
[12:46] <fluxinator> Tru7h see the gaim website
[12:46] <youser> BEEP packetnews
[12:47] <maxLF> !Wow
[12:47] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[12:47] <youser> man has anyone ever won at connect 4 against ubuntu?
[12:48] <maxLF> youser I ahve
[12:48] <Normal> how bout this: Where can I download the 2.6.12-9-386 header files?
[12:48] <maxLF> !world of warcraft
[12:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about world of warcraft - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:48] <youser> seriously/
[12:48] <maxLF> :/ Anyone know how to install world of warcraft in ubuntu???
[12:48] <youser> that game is ridiculously hard evenon level 1
[12:49] <maxLF> :/ Anyone know how to install world of warcraft in ubuntu???
[12:49] <hobbesmaster> maxLF - hand transgaming $15 and ask them :)
[12:49] <maxLF> transgaming?
[12:50] <fluxinator> Tru7h beta 3 fixes the msn issue. Compile it
[12:50] <Tussius> hm, FF is really fast, but the net seems slower than on windows :/
[12:50] <maxLF> hobbesmaster -  doesn't cedega have a monthly fee?
[12:50] <Tru7h> fluxinator: I'll do that.
[12:50] <ChocoCid> no, that's just for support
[12:50] <ChocoCid> you can pay it one-shot, install cedega and whatever, and there you go
[12:50] <mumbleslaptop> ok is there a other option that tells ubuntu to install ?
[12:50] <ru> how to start svn server in ubuntu ?
[12:51] <joejaxx> !svn
[12:51] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[12:51] <joejaxx> ru there is not a service for it?
[12:51] <joejaxx> in the list?
[12:51] <ru> no..
[12:52] <youser> man i have fun with linux spending a day trying to do something id do normally in 5minutes on windows
[12:52] <ru> but subversion package installed
[12:52] <youser> its an adventure
[12:52] <Zoffix> !compiz
[12:52] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:53] <SinnerG> I get this error on ubuntu => "rndc: connection to remote host closed"
[12:53] <ru> and how to delete servives which i already deleted throught synaptic from services list?
[12:54] <youser> for soe reason my xchat wont receive file transfers?
[12:54] <fluxinator> firewalled?
[12:54] <youser> ah yes
[12:54] <youser> i use firestarter
[12:55] <youser> how can i set up irc round that?
[12:55] <mumbleslaptop> !boot
[12:55] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[12:55] <fluxinator> policy
[12:56] <youser> i keep gettignhit fom unknown connections including from 127.0.0.1 while im alreadyconnected
[12:56] <youser> hence the firewall
[12:56] <fluxinator> go to the policy tab
[12:56] <kitche> youser: well you will setup a policy for iptables since firestarter is just a frontend to iptables in reality
[12:56] <zachhale> how do i upgrade my kernel?
[12:56] <kitche> youser: well 127.0.0.1 is your own machine
[12:56] <fluxinator> allow service, port 6667
[12:57] <LjL> zachhale: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" should do, if there's a newer kernel available
[12:57] <mumbleslaptop> ok i need to force ubuntu to install
[12:57] <Ronz> hey, the nvidia drivers on my computer seem to be broken. ive gone through every tutorial, installed nvidia-glx, changed my xorg.conf file, and when i load it up...the screen stays black and doesn't load. has anyone heard of the black screen problem?
[12:57] <youser> yeah but i shouldnt have 2 instances of 127.0.0.1
[12:57] <fluxinator> kitche then what would he use to configure iptables?
[12:58] <kitche> fluxinator: he can use firestarter as I said it's just a frontend to iptables
[12:58] <mumbleslaptop> .g ubuntu force install
[12:58] <mumbleslaptop> oh bot dosent do that
[12:59] <youser> i addedto my policies
[12:59] <youser> it did try to receive this time
[12:59] <youser> though it failed
[12:59] <kitche> Ronz: pastebin your Xorg.0.log file it's in /var/log
[12:59] <youser> asirc always does
[01:01] <zachhale> LjL: know if there's a way to upgrade to a 2.6.18 kernel?
[01:02] <LjL> zachhale: not one officially supported by Ubuntu. you could certainly just go and compile your own... or possibly you might find a pre-built unofficial .deb if you google a bit. i wouldn't do that, but...
[01:02] <ks1> does anyone know what happened to the developement forum?
[01:02] <zachhale> LjL: okay thanks for the info
[01:02] <Ronz> kitche, the error i was getting was "failed to load nvidia kernel module"
[01:03] <kitche> Ronz: ah ok try sudo modprobe nvidia see if that helps
[01:03] <mumbleslaptop> ok - last go before i give up with linux on my desktop
[01:03] <Ronz> ok, hold on
[01:03] <kitche> mubleslaptop what's wrong exactly?
[01:03] <mumbleslaptop> one sec booting it up again
[01:04] <mumbleslaptop> i had a copy of ubuntu installed but then widnows fucked up - after a reinstall of windows i went to install ubuntu
[01:04] <DBO> mumbleslaptop, please dont swear
[01:05] <yarddog> !language
[01:05] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:05] <mumbleslaptop> i click on the install on the desktop version and it gets to starting enterprise voluem managment system
[01:05] <mumbleslaptop> then i get buffer io errer on device dm-1 logical block blah
[01:05] <mumbleslaptop> and ata1 anslated ata stat/err
[01:06] <mumbleslaptop> wich i assume is the hdds
[01:06] <lakio> any idea how I can add intellij to the menu with alacarte?
[01:06] <erickm> Hello room, does anyone know of a N64 emulator for 64 bit architecture? Mupen64 does not open and I've tried win32 emulators under wine but that was a joke. :/
[01:06] <mumbleslaptop> th live cd crashes at that point as well
[01:07] <mumbleslaptop> and knoppix crashes when i try and use qtparted
[01:07] <mumbleslaptop> any help would be much apprechated
[01:08] <mike__> hello im a newbie and i need help
[01:08] <kitche> mumbleslaptop you using the livecd?
[01:08] <mumbleslaptop> i have done in the past
[01:08] <mike__> my sound is gone all of a sudden
[01:08] <mumbleslaptop> this one was the 6.0.6 desktop version
[01:09] <mike__> i was tryiong to switch my sound devices and now i dont have any at all
[01:09] <mike__> sound*
[01:09] <mike__> any suggestions?
[01:09] <kitche> mike__: try in a console sudo alsaconfig
[01:09] <mike__> ok thx
[01:09] <Ropechoborra> A program to make .gif's ??
[01:10] <mumbleslaptop> creentley trying knoppix live cd 5.0 couse i havent got a working ubuntu one
[01:10] <Dr_willis> Ropechoborra,  lots of them can.. .or you can convert images to givs
[01:10] <Dr_willis> Ropechoborra,  try the GIMP
[01:10] <mike__> sudo: alsaconfig: command not found
[01:10] <mike__> :/
[01:10] <Ropechoborra> But... i want to make a secuence of images..
[01:10] <mike__> kitche: sudo: alsaconfig: command not found
[01:11] <kitche> mike__: sorry it's alsaconf
[01:11] <mike__> oh
[01:11] <Dr_willis> I do belive gimp has a animation feature.. never used it however.
[01:11] <Ropechoborra> Dr_willis how can i do (with gimp) to make a secuence of images?
[01:11] <foo> err, how can I bunzip2 a file? bzip2 file.bz2 dir/* doesn't seem to work and I can't seem to find it in the man page, gah
[01:11] <Dr_willis> !info unz
[01:11] <ubotu> Package unz does not exist in any distro I know
[01:11] <mike__> kitche: thats not found either
[01:11] <mumbleslaptop> kitche,  knoppix live cd messes up as well
[01:11] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[01:11] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (dapper), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[01:12] <kitche> mike__: ok it seems like you don't have alsa installed so it must be oss your mixer sees no sound devices?
[01:12] <Dr_willis> foo,  try bunzip2?
[01:12] <foo> Dr_willis: Same command? bzip2 is the same thing, I think
[01:12] <mike__> no it sees them. it was working earlier today
[01:12] <Dr_willis> foo,  it defaults ot useing the extract option i belive
[01:12] <kitche> mike__: see if anything is muted
[01:12] <ashzilla> Okay, so I've followed the instructions and just made a deb of the most recent java runtime enviroment update yet Azureus still says java is running 1.4.2
[01:12] <ashzilla> What the heck do I do to get this working!
[01:13] <foo> Dr_willis: right... I want to compress.. the man page either sucks or I can't find it for the life of me
[01:13] <mike__> kitche: nothings muted
[01:13] <mike__> at least i dont think
[01:13] <mike__> im looking in volume control.. is tha tright (newb)
[01:13] <kitche> foo it's bzip2 -z <filenames>
[01:14] <foo> kitche: gah, thanks
[01:14] <Dr_willis> -z --compress       force compression
[01:14] <Dr_willis> If invoked as `bzip2', default action is to compress. as `bunzip2',  default action is to decompress.
[01:14] <mumbleslaptop> ok google dosent help me
[01:14] <youser> if only they made propellerheads reason for linux i could delete windows
[01:14] <mister_roboto> ashzilla: did you run update-java-alternatives?
[01:15] <elite_hacker> I'm using an IBM thinkpad and the video is kind of choppy when I try to play movies in X, but movies play just fine when I boot into windows.  What do I need to do to fix this?
[01:16] <mumbleslaptop> kitche,  any ideas ?
[01:16] <Sourcemage> Hi all, I'm in the middle of installing ubuntu (my first distribution) and was wondering how to setup my swap partition?
[01:16] <Sourcemage> i read it's supposed to be approx double the ram but not above 500mb ?
[01:16] <Sourcemage> but i have 768mb ram soo ...
[01:16] <host1> how do you connect without using dhc?
[01:16] <ashzilla> mister_roboto: no
[01:16] <Nicole> pla hlp me His pls I need help, I installed mercury msn , but I can't open it , 'cos I get a fatal error
[01:16] <foo> kitche: hm, bzip2 -z tothisfile.bz2 thisdir/ throws an error. strange
[01:16] <host1> I want to use a static IP
[01:17] <ashzilla> mister_roboto: what do I need to do with update-java-alternatives
[01:17] <mumbleslaptop> uh oh  i think i just lost my backup disks
[01:17] <mister_roboto> ashzilla: that will rewrite some soft links so that when you run java stuff, it will run the jvm of your choice
[01:17] <tonyyarusso> There be some black magic going on here...N-M shows no network connected, but I have internet access...
[01:17] <mumbleslaptop> hdd
[01:17] <kitche> foo: bzip2 can only do files not directories
[01:17] <mike__> kitche: nothings muted but i still have no sound
[01:17] <jrib> Sourcemage: 500 is fine, you probably won't end up using it much.  I have a gb with 512mb of ram and never use the swap so it's a waste
[01:17] <mister_roboto> ashzilla: you need to run it
[01:17] <foo> kitche: ahh, ok.
[01:17] <ashzilla> mister_roboto: it gives me a usage, what should I enter to update to 1.5
[01:17] <mister_roboto> ashzilla: i think you need to be root so "sudo update-java-alternatives"
[01:17] <Sourcemage> jrib how am i able to tell whether my system is using swap or not?
[01:18] <Dr_willis> 'free' command shows memory ussage
[01:18] <jrib> Sourcemage: free -m  for friendly numbers
[01:18] <kitche> mike__: well have you tried undoing what you did before?
[01:18] <host1> ashzilla: do you have all the right repositories set up?
[01:18] <ashzilla> mister_roboto: nope, still nothing, just gives me usage
[01:18] <ashzilla> host1: yes
[01:18] <host1> nvm
[01:19] <jrib> Sourcemage: since this is your first distro, I don't know if you're somewhat familiar with the command line?
[01:19] <mister_roboto> ashzilla: use "-l" to list valid choices
[01:19] <mumbleslaptop> nope i havent- but ubuntu just wont work on my desktop:(
[01:19] <kitche> mike__: since you said you tried chaning sound devices that's whne it started to do what it is doing now
[01:19] <Nicole> pls hlp me His pls I need help, I installed mercury msn , but I can't open it , 'cos I get a fatal error
[01:19] <mister_roboto> ashzilla: then you use "-s <name" to set it  (I think... been a while)
[01:19] <jrib> ubotu: tell Nicole about repeat
[01:19] <ixian> i can't adjust brightness/contrast/etc of videos playing in totem since i installed the ati drivers ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto ).. any ideas how to fix this?
[01:19] <Sourcemage> jrib partially, only basics like rm, cd etc
[01:19] <mike__> kitche: so how do i get it working again
[01:19] <jrib> Sourcemage: yeah, free is just another command that gives you that info
[01:20] <mike__> kitche: i dont think i did anything speciall... just changed the tabs in volume control
[01:20] <ashzilla> mister_roboto: thanks, I think that did it
[01:20] <raknam> i'm trying to log into a remote server using ssh, is there a way to login not as the user that i'm logged on as on my local machine?
[01:20] <jrib> raknam: ssh foo@bar
[01:21] <kitche> mike__: check to make sure everything is setup and the output is set right
[01:21] <mike__> kitche: some programs like amarok work but only in the ehadset but i want to change that
[01:21] <ashzilla> woot, thanks mister_roboto - that was it. :)
[01:21] <jrib> raknam: where foo is your username
[01:21] <Ronz> forget who helped me before...but ran apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common, then changed nv to nvidia in xorg.conf. whenever it boots up, it gives me just a black screen. have any ideas?
[01:21] <mister_roboto> ashzilla: great!
[01:21] <mike__> kitche: how do i do that
[01:21] <elite_hacker> nobody knows how to make my video play right?
[01:21] <raknam> jrib: and bar is just a command?
[01:21] <Ronz> elite_hacker, what type of video?
[01:21] <jrib> raknam: bar is the server you are connecting to
[01:22] <kitche> mike__: ok open up your mixer and does your mixer have green lights at the bottom since I don't know what desktop environment your using
[01:22] <raknam> jrib: sweet, thanks
[01:22] <elite_hacker> Ronz: any video i play is jerky
[01:22] <jrib> raknam: I'll choose better fake variables next time :)
[01:22] <mumbleslaptop> ok im goign to give up for the night
[01:22] <Ronz> elite_hacker, what are you using to play them?
[01:22] <raknam> jrib: haha yeah sorry i'm a little dense too
[01:22] <mike__> kbuntu: gnome. whats my mixer?
[01:22] <mumbleslaptop> and go to sleep
[01:22] <Sourcemage> was thanksgiving today or tomorrow?  : o
[01:22] <elite_hacker> Ronz: vlc, mplayer
[01:23] <mike__> kitche: gnome...
[01:23] <Monsuco> hello
[01:23] <Ronz> elite_hacker, i would try kaffeine + xine backend
[01:23] <technel> In Open Office Writer, under Tools -> Options -> Language Settings -> Languages -> Default langs for documents "English (Canada)" is selected. So I click "English (USA)" from the drop down, click OK, restart Open Office, go there again, and it is switched back to Canada!! Why?
[01:23] <Monsuco> I am having issues with X
[01:23] <mike__> kitche: i dont see any green lights
[01:23] <Ronz> ran apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common, then changed nv to nvidia in xorg.conf. whenever it boots up, it gives me just a black screen. have any ideas?
[01:23] <mumbleslaptop> Sourcemage,  i was told today
[01:23] <Monsuco> is there any form of safe mode for X?
[01:24] <kitche> mike__: yeah wasn't sure if gnome had that kind of mixer since KDE does have lights for what is active for sound
[01:24] <mike__> kitche: should i switch to kde?
[01:24] <ixian> Ronz, try changing it back to nv
[01:24] <Ronz> ixian, i have
[01:25] <kitche> mike__: no but I don't know much about gnome so I can't really help you out but your problem has to do with something in the mixer set wrong
[01:25] <Ronz> ixian, thats how im running now. =) i want to get 3D acceleration up
[01:25] <DualCortex_> guys anyone know how to set up a lan game, say for nibbles
[01:25] <mike__> kitche: it doesnt look like tehre is much to set in the gnome mixer (it says its alsa mixer...)
[01:26] <kitche> mike__: ah ok well I know about alsa mixer
[01:26] <ixian> Ronz: , oh ok.. well im pretty sure there is more to installing the drivers than just downloading the package, which is why it didnt work. try searching for nvidia on the wiki
[01:26] <ixian> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Home?action=show&redirect=FrontPage
[01:26] <mike__> kitche: what shall i try then? :)
[01:26] <Ronz> ixian, thats the thing...ive been through 20+ wiki's today
[01:26] <Monsuco> What happens is when I start, I get like these wierd lines all over my screen and it is like a bunch of desktops overlapping each other, I accedentally selected the wrong graphics driver, and that is the source of the problems, is there any sort of "safe mode" type thing for X so that I can go back and select the right driver
[01:26] <youser> man it takes hours to search through f servers on linux irc
[01:26] <DualCortex_> Anyone know how to set up a lan game, say for nibbles
[01:27] <kitche> mike__: see if your pc speakers are all the way up and unmuted
[01:27] <Ronz> Monsuco, you could boot in safe mode and change the graphics driver in the xorg.conf file
[01:27] <Monsuco> how do I do that
[01:27] <gandolfthewizard> hi all i am trying to get the plug in for yahoo can someone help please
[01:27] <mike__> kitche: yep they are
[01:28] <lakio> how do I disable SELinux in ubuntu?
[01:28] <ixian> Monsuco: , you should see a 'recovery mode' option on the bootloader
[01:28] <Monsuco> I do, when I select it, I get a prompt
[01:28] <kitche> mike__: well I can't figure out anything else since I never ran into that problem but it could be due to you have headset plugged in and you want to play though the speakers(some computers don't like two sound devices on at a same time)
[01:28] <Monsuco> now what? Is there a command I type in
[01:29] <fraroco> hello every body
[01:29] <fraroco> I wanna know how to change of server in IRC
[01:29] <Zarephath> !windows media
[01:29] <SeanTater> what do you do for a file root can dir and see, but cannot even stat?
[01:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about windows media - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:29] <mike__> kitche: is there a way to switch between the two of them without running into problems like totall mutage?
[01:29] <DualCortex_> So noone knows how to set up a lan game for those preinstalled gnome games? ie nibbles
[01:30] <kitche> fraroco: yes type /server <server>
[01:30] <Zarephath> Anyone help..I need information on how to get movie player to play .wmv files...it errors on loading the file...I searched the wiki but no joy..
[01:30] <kitche> mike__: umm yeah just unplug your headset at least that's what I do
[01:30] <avagant> Ta da~
[01:31] <avagant> I have a serious question, in need of some serious answers.
[01:31] <Monsuco> so what command do I type in once in recovery mode to go back to the old driver
[01:31] <avagant> Haha
[01:31] <jrib> ubotu: tell Zarephath about wmv
[01:31] <avagant> Actually it's not that serious, it's just a silly question really.
[01:31] <[5D] Silent_Chaos> hey guys, I'm trying to autostart my css server from /srcds and I'm having some trouble with getting it to auto-start
[01:31] <gandolfthewizard> can someone help me get the java plug in please
[01:31] <ixian> Monsuco: probably something along the lines of sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:31] <mike__> kitche: is there a way i can wthout having to unplug it? the back of my computer isnt the most remote place
[01:31] <avagant> gandolfthewizard: www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:32] <avagant> They have answers to just about everything.
[01:32] <avagant> I still can't figure out my sound problems.
[01:32] <avagant> But at least I have sound.
[01:32] <fraroco> thaks you
[01:32] <fraroco> thanks you
[01:32] <avagant> Heck I just found out instead of going through all the crap to compile Nicotine+ they have a repository now.
[01:33] <[5D] Silent_Chaos> the command to execute something is ./<name> right? How would I execute from a different directory?
[01:33] <ixian> Monsuco: then find the section labled "Section "Device"", and change the driver to whatever it was before
[01:33] <asimismo> I've got a Ubuntu machine I hope to use as an IMAP server. Would like to use a web client to access my accounts. Anyone know of a web e-mail client that can centralize multiple accounts?
[01:33] <fraroco> and how can I greet to all users whit a comand
[01:33] <ixian> Monsuco: then ctrl+X to save
[01:33] <jrib> gandolfthewizard: do you want me to help you with java?
[01:33] <Monsuco> ok
[01:33] <TIMo0-> ok
[01:33] <GoldKeeper> has anybody had a bad edgy break ?
[01:33] <avagant> Hey if I get rid of a deb package even though I already have the deb installed will it ruin what I have installed?
[01:33] <TIMo0-> whats up
[01:34] <TIMo0-> yess
[01:34] <avagant> I need to free up some room for more useless packages.
[01:34] <DualCortex_> So noone knows how to set up a lan game for those preinstalled gnome games? ie nibbles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
[01:34] <LuisMendes> Hi, I want to know if it is necessary to install a firewall, like Firestarter?
[01:34] <jrib> gandolfthewizard: you need to post the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file for us to help you.  Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us the url to your post
[01:34] <DualCortex_> no
[01:34] <[5D] Silent_Chaos> the firewall exists already
[01:34] <jrib> !firewall
[01:34] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[01:35] <avagant> jrib: Why can't they just go on the forums? Haha
[01:35] <avagant> !ubuntuforums
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuforums - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <avagant> Good afternoon/evening/morning holycow.
[01:36] <holycow> allo
[01:36] <avagant> holy i have a question about my panels.
[01:36] <holycow> happy turkeys to all
[01:36] <holycow> avagant, sure wots that?
[01:36] <avagant> I don't know if you can answer it.
[01:36] <holycow> i'll try
[01:36] <kitche> LuisMendes well firestarter isn't a firewall it's just a frontend to iptables which is the firewall
[01:36] <avagant> holycow: Well I set it to not expand so it becomes as big as whatever I have in it right?
[01:37] <avagant> holycow: But now, I can't get it to expand again so I can add more things, how do I do that?
[01:37] <holycow> avagant, correct
[01:37] <LuisMendes> kitche, oh I think I understand now! thanks, so it is not really necessary...
[01:37] <avagant> !conky
[01:37] <ubotu> conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 95 kB, installed size 316 kB
[01:37] <avagant> Is there a "panels" option I can get to?
[01:38] <holycow> what do you mean 'panels option?'
[01:38] <avagant> Without actually like if you right click the panel it gives you the option to edit it's properities.
[01:38] <holycow> you want to edit panel properties without right clicking on them?
[01:38] <avagant> Is there a way to do that without right clicking it, cause when I do it asks to change the properties of the little program buttons I put in there.
[01:38] <avagant> Yes.
[01:38] <holycow> you should be able to do tha tin gconf
[01:39] <avagant> gconf?
[01:39] <avagant> I know what gconf is, but how do I dare I ask "get" to it.
[01:39] <kitche> LuisMendes: yeah you don't need it and iptables won't work until you configure it anyways
[01:39] <holycow> applications / system / configuraiton editor
[01:39] <avagant> I don't have a system menu?
[01:39] <holycow> all gnome settings can be accesed from there
[01:39] <holycow> oh easy
[01:39] <holycow> alt / f2
[01:39] <holycow> the type in gconf
[01:39] <LuisMendes> kitche, so it is disabled by default?
[01:40] <avagant> hmmm it said it couldn't be found maybe I don't have it.
[01:40] <holycow> sorry
[01:40] <holycow> gconf-editor
[01:40] <holycow> search for the right key to modify to get your panels back
[01:41] <[1] raknam> one more quick ssh question, how do i start the ssh server in ubuntu?
[01:41] <avagant> Are they called panels in this?
[01:41] <Dr_willis> !ssh
[01:41] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[01:41] <avagant> cause I can't find them. haha
[01:41] <holycow> you can also delete your .gnome and .gnome2 dirs, log out and log back in.  that will delete all your settings, and they will be recreated to default once you log in
[01:41] <holycow> avagant, there is a search function
[01:41] <[1] raknam> dr_willis: gracias
[01:42] <DualCortex_> Does anyone know how to use the gnome games' NETWORK game capabilities?
[01:42] <holycow> its under apps / panel actually
[01:42] <holycow> in gconf
[01:42] <b03nto> !fluxbox
[01:42] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[01:42] <[5D] Silent_Chaos> anyone know how to execute a binary from a different directory? I know that I can ./name to execute from within the directory, how would I execute using a full path?
[01:42] <avagant> Hmm.
[01:42] <DualCortex_> !gnome
[01:42] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[01:43] <avagant> It said "pairs and schemas cannot be edited"
[01:43] <holycow> [5D] Silent_Chaos, ~/anydirectoryhere
[01:43] <holycow> i said applications / panel not schemas / panel
[01:44] <[5D] Silent_Chaos> holycow ~/asdf/server.sh will execute?
[01:44] <holycow> [5D] Silent_Chaos, if it is located there
[01:44] <ashzilla> !flash
[01:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:44] <OmniD_> Anyone use Tomboy know how to include a date stamp?
[01:44] <holycow> ~/ just means /home/youraccount
[01:45] <DualCortex_> !nibbles
[01:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nibbles - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:45] <id10t> 'lo all
[01:45] <Buglouse> What would you recommend using for streaming mp3 files over a Shoutcast server?
[01:46] <OmniD_> oh what was it called
[01:46] <OmniD_> icecast?
[01:46] <OmniD_> There was a good shoutcast alternative
[01:46] <OmniD_> THAT I RECOMMEND
[01:46] <id10t> Buglouse, or use DSS and just feed the mp3s off local storage
[01:46] <Buglouse> i tried useing DarkIce... but it is havening a problem finding the Lame codecs...
[01:46] <kitche> LusiMendes well it runs but it doesn't do anything that I know of unless the devs have it set up a certain way by default
[01:46] <OmniD_> It wasn't DarkIce I don't think actually
[01:46] <avagant> Hmm it didn't change.
[01:47] <id10t> VLC can do it too
[01:47] <madewokherd> there's an icecast-server
[01:47] <Buglouse> darkice is compatible with Shoutcast.. icecast isn't
[01:47] <avagant> Uah there we go.
[01:47] <OmniD_> Right
[01:47] <DualCortex_> Does anyone know how to use the gnome games' NETWORK game capabilities?
[01:48] <Parallax> hi, I have a broken pakage and dont know how to solve it
[01:48] <[5D] Silent_Chaos> holycow, ~/ only cds to things in my home directory
[01:48] <b03nto> !istanbul
[01:48] <ubotu> istanbul: Desktop session recorder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-3ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 65 kB, installed size 344 kB
[01:48] <Parallax> hi, I have a broken pakage and don't know how to solve it
[01:48] <Buglouse> id1ot: what is DSS? is it a plugin or what... all im finding is Distributed Security Service
[01:49] <Buglouse> id10t: what is DSS? is it a plugin or what... all im finding is Distributed Security Service
[01:49] <ebzero> Err can someone help me with a quick sound problem?
[01:50] <ebzero> Hello?
[01:50] <avagant> I wish there was a way I could be the gconf-editor on the panel so that never happens again.
[01:50] <avagant> Haha
[01:51] <GigaClon> how can a stop a run-away process, killall doesn't seem to work
[01:51] <DualCortex_> Does anyone know how to use the gnome games' NETWORK game capabilities?
[01:51] <Parallax> GigaClon: kill -9 <pid>
[01:51] <GigaClon> how do I get pid?
[01:51] <ebzero> Does anyone know why somtimes i can here sound and somtimes i cant but i can always here the Gaim sound FX? Along with some videos. :/
[01:51] <hantu> ps aux
[01:52] <Parallax> ps aux
[01:52] <avagant> ps aux
[01:52] <DualCortex_> ps aux
[01:52] <Parallax> hi, I have a broken pakage and don't know how to solve it
[01:52] <madewokherd> no one knows how to use gnome games to play network games
[01:52] <avagant> You know what'd be awesome, if I could get sound to work for everything the right way.
[01:52] <[5D] Silent_Chaos> anyone know how to execute a binary from a different directory? I know that I can ./name to execute from within the directory, how would I execute using a full path?
[01:53] <ebzero> Avagany i hear you man :-/ its frusterating me really badly...
[01:53] <DualCortex_> madewoherd, i'm noticing that
[01:53] <avagant> I should be happy I got it to work at all, but if I'm watching youtube and listening to music, when one goes down, so goes the other.
[01:53] <ebzero> Exactluy
[01:53] <Zarephath> jrib: thanks
[01:53] <ebzero> and the sound lag on Youtube is annoying :-(
[01:53] <avagant> But like I said I should be grateful, when I had Windows I didn't have sound at all.
[01:54] <avagant> And couldn't figure out how to get it to work, I got sound right out of the box in Ubuntu.
[01:54] <ebzero> O.o i had windows and got a virus on it that fuxed everything up so i didnt know what to do and my comp didnt come with a windows cd dont feel like spening 200 bucks on a new cd :(
[01:54] <ChocoCid> !language
[01:54] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:54] <avagant> ebzero: The worst part is, I had sound set up a way that I can do both comfortably and I had to reinstall Ubuntu again.
[01:55] <ebzero> lol i had to reinstall ubuntu also but i had nothing on it so it was no big deal
[01:55] <ebzero> Anyone here a sound specialist? lol
[01:55] <avagant> I've had to reinstall it 5 times.
[01:55] <avagant> Haha
[01:55] <ebzero> lol
[01:56] <avagant> If anyone here deserves a "n00b" award it's me.
[01:56] <ebzero> lol im runner up then :-/
[01:56] <avagant> Hey when I open system monitor shouldn't alsa be one of the processes running?
[01:56] <bill> avagent - lol - i thought we settled that. - my pic is still in webster's
[01:56] <avagant> Haha
[01:57] <avagant> It's showing aRts instead of alsa, and I could have sworn I've seen alsa in the monitor before.
[01:57] <ebzero> Avagent i dont have alsa running and i cant here anything
[01:57] <avagant> That could be 90 percent of my problem there, is there a way to make alsa "start"?
[01:58] <ebzero> Avagent and to make things worse i still cant get my ATI RADEON 9250 working the right way...
[01:58] <host`> how do I connect with a static IP?
[01:58] <sidny4> anybody know how to test surround sound?
[01:58] <shido> how can i change the color of the fonts in ubuntu? for example...to white, in order to have a theme in black
[01:59] <host`> !send to host` static IP
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about send to host` static IP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <Parallax> I have a broken pakage and don't know how to solve it
[02:00] <host`> !tell  host` static IP
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tell  host` static IP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <host`> hmm
[02:00] <host`> !static IP
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about static IP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <Sivik> anyone here use a zen micro?
[02:00] <otaku-san> N00b question. I'm trying to install Gnome on Kubuntu.  It's asking what display manager I want to use.  Should I stay with kdm or should I use gdm?  If I do use gdm will it mess with KDE?
[02:00] <chrisntr> Hey :)
[02:00] <ebzero> !tell host` Sound problems
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tell host` Sound problems - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <Sivik> otaku-san, it doesn't matter which one
[02:00] <sidny4> !alsa
[02:00] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[02:00] <wheelswitch> any one here use bittorrent alot?
[02:00] <chrisntr> I'm having a few problems with 'rar' on Edgy :(
[02:00] <host`> I'm not having the sound problems anyway
[02:00] <otaku-san> Sivik: Ok I'll stay with kdm
[02:00] <avagant> But shouldn't alsa show up in system manager?
[02:00] <wheelswitch> by bitorrent i mean torrents,
[02:01] <Sivik> wheelswitch, what is the issue?
[02:01] <otaku-san> Sivik: Thanks alot
[02:01] <jaymode> wheelswitch: i do
[02:01] <host`> I wanting to know how to configure using a static IP
[02:01] <Sivik> host`, like a router or just your computer?
[02:01] <host`> I want to connect to a router
[02:02] <Sivik> ok, do you know the ip of the interface for the router
[02:02] <host`> yes
[02:02] <sidny4> you should really configure the router to assign a static IP to your mac address
[02:02] <Sivik> host`, what kind of router is it
[02:02] <Sivik> sidny4, it may not be able to do that, depends on what sort of router it is
[02:02] <host`> it's not my router, I don't want to mess around with other peoples things too much, I'm leeching off it
[02:02] <sidny4> Sivik, that's true
[02:02] <fraroco> well I have the room of IRC how can I know what it is the server??
[02:02] <Sivik> host`, sudo ifconfig ethx xx.xx.xx.xx
[02:02] <shido> why i can never change the font style or font size in the system?.... i change it but nothing happens
[02:02] <jaymode> my nautilus/libgnome-vfs are crashing while doing file transfers over a network. After that I have to restart before i can browse computers on the network again. Is there a command so that I do not have to keep restarting?
[02:03] <host`> ok, ifconfig
[02:03] <host`> I'll remember that
[02:03] <troughton> hi i am trying to set up a home network i have installed samba on both mashiens but how do i browse accross the network ??
[02:03] <Squatch> Quick question.  Trying to get xvkbd & xbindkeys so that I can use all the buttons on my mouse, but when I "sudo apt-get install xvkbd xbindkeys" I get "Couldn't find package xvkbd"...  Any suggestions?
[02:03] <sidny4> host` what are you trying to do?
[02:03] <host`> I need to have my ports forwarded
[02:03] <Sivik> Squatch, try using apt-cache for that program
[02:03] <Sivik> host`, what kind of router?
[02:03] <host`> linksys
[02:03] <Squatch> Sivik: Thanks, I'll look into that.
[02:03] <Sivik> host`, thats rather easy, log into the router in your browser
[02:03] <host`> the router is set up, I just need to connect to it with the right IP
[02:04] <Sivik> Squatch, apt-cache search
[02:04] <sidny4> host` you'll have to configure the router to forward those to your ip
[02:04] <fraroco> well I have the room of IRC how can I know what it is the server??
[02:04] <host`> that's already configured
[02:04] <nex_> does anyone know of a video converter for linux to turn .avi, divx, into .vob?
[02:04] <Sivik> host`, well, the router should assign an ip, and then you just tell the router to forward to that ip address
[02:04] <troughton> nex_ look at tovid
[02:04] <Sivik> thats a router end thing, not a client end thing
[02:04] <sidny4> ok, are you the only person using the router?
[02:04] <host`> no I'm not
[02:05] <nex_> troughton, thanks
[02:05] <Sivik> sidny4, how are you connecting to is, wired or wireless?
[02:05] <troughton> nex_ look at tovid
[02:05] <troughton> hi i am trying to set up a home network i have installed samba on both mashiens but how do i browse accross the network ??
[02:05] <sidny4> wireless
[02:05] <avagant> Now i can't hear sound in youtube at all.
[02:05] <avagant> Somebody!
[02:05] <avagant> Anybody!
[02:05] <bruenig> tovid is awful
[02:05] <Sivik> troughton, you have to be able to ping both mechines
[02:05] <bruenig> avagant, it is time you learned a little something about adobe flash 7 for linux....it sucks
[02:05] <Sivik> troughton, aka they have to have the same network portion of the ip
[02:06] <sidny4> host` you'll want to make the router assign your mac address the specific IP you want
[02:06] <avagant> No but I had it working just last night.
[02:06] <troughton> have done Sivik
[02:06] <Sivik> troughton, both running linux?
[02:06] <avagant> In fact I was listening to music AND watching youtube.
[02:06] <sidny4> otherwise if you request that ip and someone else has that ip neither one of you will get online
[02:06] <Squatch> Sivik: When I search for xvkbd or xbindkeys, absolutely nothing pops up.
[02:06] <avagant> So what's the deal here?
[02:06] <Sivik> Squatch, then you don't have the correct repos opened
[02:06] <avagant> HOW DO YOU START ALSA
[02:06] <troughton> yes Sivik
[02:06] <LjL> !caps
[02:06] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:06] <mcphail> nex_: there's a script called "any2dvd", but i haven't used it
[02:06] <Buglouse> I'm tring to find the package "DSS" it is supposed to be a media streamer... I can't seem to find it .. does anyone konw where i would be located?
[02:07] <avagant> Ya ya I know, but it isn't even showing I "have" alsa.
[02:07] <Sivik> troughton, there shouldn't be a problem
[02:07] <nex_> mcphail, let me see
[02:07] <Sivik> troughton, you should be able to pull both computers up in samba, thats what i do
[02:07] <fraroco> well I have the name-room of IRC how can I know what it is the server??
[02:07] <troughton> the network is not showing anyware how do i pull up the network in samba Sivik ??
[02:08] <Monsuco> ok, so I fixed X,  but how do I find the correct driver?
[02:08] <avagant> Also how do I configure opera to use alsa or whatever?
[02:08] <sidny4> fraroco, what are you talking about?
[02:08] <Sivik> troughton, working on it, i haven't used samba in a whle
[02:08] <troughton> Sivik i am new to samba i dont know how it works
[02:08] <Sivik> how do i start samba from terminal
[02:08] <NET||abuse> hey guys, how do i change what application opens a file type, like change my default movie player?
[02:08] <sidny4> !samba
[02:08] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:09] <Sivik> sidny4, don't give me that crap
[02:09] <sidny4> haha
[02:09] <NET||abuse> i right click on a movie file, properties, openwith, i have 3 selections,, but it won't change anything???
[02:09] <Sivik> sidny4, i'm trying to start it from terminal and i can't remember how to do it
[02:09] <avagant> !alsa
[02:09] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[02:09] <sidny4> sorry, it's been awhile for samba too
[02:09] <macsim> ahah
[02:09] <macsim> ahah
[02:09] <Sivik> sidny4, i have it installed, but samba isn't a valid command
[02:09] <macsim> ahah
[02:09] <ebzero> Anyone know how to fix sound problems?
[02:09] <macsim> ahah
[02:09] <sidny4> smbd?
[02:10] <ebzero> How come i can here Gaim sounds but not youtube sounds?
[02:10] <sidny4> Sivik, smbclient I think
[02:10] <ebzero> Like earlier today i could hear all sounds I havnt messed with any configs.
[02:10] <digip1mp> I just popped a wireless card into my laptop's pcmcia slot... what do I have to do to get it working?
[02:10] <Sivik> ok
[02:11] <Monsuco> I have an intel graphics card, and I am not exactly sure how to set it up so that OpenGL will work, currently, anything that needs OpenGL doesnt seem to work well
[02:11] <fraroco> sidny4: see, I have #ubuntu but I do not know in which server do I have to conect by to enter at this room, for ejample..
[02:11] <Sivik> client doesn't bring up a window
[02:11] <Sivik> fraroco, irc.freenode.net
[02:11] <sidny4> well, the server you're on is irc.freenode.net
[02:12] <Squatch> How do I add a repository so that apt-get can find xvkbd?
[02:12] <Zer0Her0_> is there a way to map control to the apple key on a mac keyboard
[02:12] <Monsuco> is there a command that can tell me the particular model of my graphics card
[02:12] <fraroco> sidny4: yeah I know this server but I have two namerooms more that I do not knor the server...
[02:12] <bruenig> Squatch, what is xvkbd?
[02:12] <Zer0Her0_> and ctrl thing drives me batty
[02:12] <fraroco> Sivik:  yeah I know this server but I have two namerooms more that I do not knor the server...
[02:13] <Squatch> bruenig: Something I need along with xbindkeys to make my Forward and Back buttons on my mouse use Alt+Left & Alt+Right...
[02:13] <sidny4> fraroco, what program are you using?
[02:13] <fraroco> xchat-genome
[02:13] <sidny4> ok, where does it list your channels? left or bottom?
[02:13] <bruenig> Squatch, I believe you only need xbindkeys for that, but if you want xvkbd, more power to you
[02:14] <Squatch> bruenig: Well, just following some walkthroughs I found >_<...  No clue really what I'm doing with these.  Regardless, I can't get either package ATM.
[02:14] <thoreauputic> !repos
[02:14] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:14] <sidny4> Sivik, so you want to start samba from the terminal that opens up a configuration window?
[02:15] <bruenig> Squatch, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-5bbef89639d9a7d93fe38f6356dc17847d373096
[02:15] <Monsuco> how do I find out what kind of graphics card I have
[02:15] <Squatch> yes?
[02:15] <bruenig> Squatch, you might also want to get xbindkeys-config, that gives you a nice graphical interface to configure xbindkeys
[02:16] <fraroco> sidny4: xchat-genome
[02:16] <Squatch> bruenig: Cool, I'll look into that as soon as I can figure out this repo mess...
[02:16] <bruenig> Squatch, follow that link I just gave you to enable the extra repos
[02:16] <bruenig> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-5bbef89639d9a7d93fe38f6356dc17847d373096
[02:16] <sidny4> fraroco, where are your channels listed
[02:17] <sidny4> left side, bottom...?
[02:17] <thoreauputic> Monsuco: lspci | grep -i VGA
[02:17] <thoreauputic> Monsuco: that should find it
[02:17] <fraroco> how where?
[02:17] <ixian> what is a good video player for playing asf files? ive tried vlc, totem, and mplayer.. something always screws up (sound skips in vlc, crashes in totem and mplayer)
[02:17] <bruenig> totem plays asf perfectly for me
[02:18] <fraroco> sidny4: how where?
[02:18] <Monsuco> ok
[02:18] <PacketScan> i'm vond of mplayer
[02:18] <Monsuco> thank you
[02:18] <PacketScan> fond even
[02:18] <fraroco> sidny4: did you mean where I get them?
[02:18] <sidny4> yeah
[02:18] <ixian> bruenig: well it used to play them fine for me too but it crashes since i installed video card drivers
[02:18] <bruenig> ixian, you may need w32codecs for them since it is a windows media format
[02:18] <ixian> i have that; :(
[02:18] <Squatch> bruenig: Thanks a ton for all your help, searching through these pages ^_^.
[02:18] <Buglouse> I'm looking for a Plugin (for xmms, amarok, andy other media players) or stand alone progie that will allow me to stream mp3 content to a shoutcast server
[02:19] <bruenig> ixian, it wouldn't crash because of a video card. The program at least wouldn't crash
[02:19] <kitche> Buglouse: you need the shoutcast dj tools to do that
[02:20] <loper06> im getting this error when im trying to install vmware. anybody? "Unable to get the access rights of source file "./vmware-vix/bin".
[02:20] <loper06> "
[02:20] <Psykus> has anyone had any luck getting a netgear WG111v2 USB adapter working under ubuntu? i saw v1 on the wiki, no mention of v2
[02:20] <kitche> loper-6: are you sudoing?
[02:21] <harisund> Has anybody tried to dual boot a system with 2 Linuxes?
[02:21] <Sivik> i'm having problems getting amarok seeing my zen micro
[02:21] <loper06> yes. im actually in root
[02:21] <bruenig> ixian, also, don't know if this will help but asf is a container file, so could be a problem for whatever it is containing not asf itself
[02:21] <kitche> harisund: yes that is pretty easy to do really
[02:21] <harisund> kitche, ah! a positive suggestion. Good start, i would say. So how do I setup the boot partitions and the grub?
[02:22] <loper06> kitche: does the owner have to be root:root?
[02:22] <Sivik> loper06, you can change that
[02:22] <harisund> kitche, let's say I install Ubuntu first. All good. Now if I were to install, say, nexenta or gentoo, it will overwrite the mbr with its own grub right?
[02:22] <loper06> Sivik: why am i getting this error then?
[02:22] <Sivik> loper06, what the error?
[02:22] <loper06> Unable to get the access rights of source file "./vmware-vix/bin".
[02:23] <sethk> harisund, all the distros have a "do you want to overwrite the mbr" confirmation question, but if you answer yes, then it usually will
[02:23] <kitche> harisund: it might but ti should see ubuntu
[02:23] <Sivik> loper06: do a ls -al, it will tell you all the permissions for that file
[02:23] <sethk> harisund, however the MBR will be backed up first.
[02:23] <Sivik> and even if it does, it should pick up the kernel for ubuntu
[02:23] <fraroco> sidny4: did you mean where I get them?
[02:24] <harisund> sethk, ok. So let's assume the MBR is overwritten by nexenta. Now I see the nexenta kernel and the Ubuntu kernel. Now I boot into UBuntu and install a new kernel. However Ubuntu doesn't know about nexenta kernel, right? What happens if it overwrites the MBR to reflect the new kernel?
[02:24] <godzirra> how do I reconfigure grub?  for some reason last time I booted into linux it took away my windows xp entry in the menu.list
[02:24] <sethk> harisund, you are already wrong on sentence two
[02:24] <Sivik> harisund, but grub will fix it, grub is grub no matter who uses it
[02:24] <Tussius> hey
[02:24] <sethk> harisund, if it overwrites the grub in the MBR, it will use its own config file, and it will only see its own kernel
[02:24] <Sivik> Tussius, hi
[02:24] <Tussius> how do I go about to install an older version of java?
[02:24] <sethk> godzirra, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:24] <loper06> Sivik: ./vmware-vix/bin is not exist. however, ./bin does
[02:24] <harisund> Sivik the /boot/grub/menu.lst file will have to be the same for both OS, right?
[02:24] <harisund> or atleast synchronized?
[02:24] <sethk> godzirra, you can find how to boot windows in:      info grub
[02:25] <Tussius> it seems the newest has problems with a java program I'm trying to run
[02:25] <godzirra> sethk: I dont know what to add. it automatically added it last time when I booted up the system.
[02:25] <sethk> harisund, no
[02:25] <Sivik> harisund, it should be correct no matter who uses it
[02:25] <Sivik> loper06, do you know where the vmware-vix/bin folder is?
[02:25] <sethk> godzirra, it's in the info I referenced.  I can tell you if you know the partition where windows is running.
[02:25] <sethk> godzirra, where windows is installed, rather
[02:25] <harisund> Sivik, sethk .. let's say I share the /boot partition across both operating systems (I use only OS that have a grub, no Windows..) . Do you think that would be a good idea or no?
[02:25] <kitche> harisund: anyways nexenta isn't a linux so it won't overwrite ubuntu's kernel if your worried about that
[02:25] <godzirra> I do.  its /dev/sda1
[02:25] <loper06> Sivik: i assume in vmware-server-distrib
[02:26] <Psykus> has anyone had any luck getting a netgear WG111v2 USB adapter working under ubuntu? i saw v1 on the wiki, no mention of v2. suppose I could try it anyway, just throwing the driver into ndiswrapper, but i'm using windows on the system at the moment (laptop)
[02:26] <harisund> kitche, no I am not worried about any kernels being overwritten. I am worried about  a new menu.lst being created that doesn't show the other OS' kernel.
[02:26] <Sivik> harisund, thats how i did it
[02:26] <fraroco> somebody how can I find the server of a room of irc??
[02:26] <sethk> harisund, that's exactly what will happen
[02:26] <sethk> harisund, the new menu.lst _will_ be created
[02:26] <sethk> harisund, and it _will_ have only the new OS
[02:27] <Sivik> fraroco, this one is on irc.freenode.net
[02:27] <sethk> harisund, but you simply edit the file, and add the old one to it.
[02:27] <Sivik> fraroco, what do you mean
[02:27] <harisund> sethk ok that clears up things ;) ..
[02:27] <harisund> Sivik that's how you did it? Means? how?
[02:27] <fraroco> Sivik #Tuxteno no
[02:27] <Sivik> harisund, and even if it doesn't, its not that hard to edit that file and fix it
[02:27] <kitche> harisund: grub will see the other distro automatically at least in my opinion it does
[02:27] <Sivik> harisund, as long as you don't format the /boot partition, it should regonize all the kernels on there
[02:27] <Sivik> fraroco, are you connected to it
[02:27] <harisund> Sivik, ah neat... thanks ..
[02:28] <Sivik> harisund, yw
[02:28] <harisund> thanks a bunch sethk too .. I am going to try then ..
[02:28] <kitche> harisund: sicne I installed grub from source and it seen my distro automatically without configuring it
[02:28] <bsdfox> hey does nm-applet work with WPA? I only see WEP 128-bit Passphrase and WEP 64/128-bit Hex/ASCII
[02:29] <fraroco> sivik now, well my big problem is that with firefox can not conect to it because I have problems whit java in firefox. so I wanna conect to it from xchat
[02:29] <SinnerG> with iptables, how can I check if a certain rule has been set?
[02:29] <harisund> kitche installed grub from source? You mean you compiled grub? Any particular reason why you did so?
[02:29] <harisund> SinnerG, iptables -t {nat,filter} -L -v
[02:29] <harisund> choose between the nat and filter (default) tables
[02:29] <niroxx> how can i make a video of my desktop ?
[02:29] <kitche> harisund: umm yeah my distro doesn't use grub that I use it uses lilo and I don't like it
[02:30] <harisund> kitche ah ok .. and that distro is?
[02:30] <Sivik> fraroco, try installing j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[02:30] <bruenig> probably slackware, using lilo would go along with using kernels that are 5 years old
[02:31] <kitche> bruenig:" I use 2.6.18 :)
[02:31] <fraroco> apt-get install j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin??
[02:31] <Sivik> yes
[02:31] <Sivik> try that
[02:31] <Sivik> you might have to sudo it
[02:31] <bruenig> kitche was it slackware?
[02:31] <kitche> bsdfox: make sure that you have wpa_supplicant installed
[02:31] <bruenig> was i right?
[02:31] <digip1mp> omg how do I get the wireless configuration util to show up in gnome?
[02:31] <kitche> bruenig: yeah but then again most distros give you a choice to use lilo or grub
[02:31] <bruenig> yes :)
[02:31] <Sivik> digip1mp, what hw
[02:31] <sethk> kitche, nothing wrong with lilo
[02:32] <Sivik> kitche, other distros use lilo as well
[02:32] <kitche> Sivik as I said they do
[02:32] <bsdfox> kitche, I do, and it opens an instance of wpa_supplicant when I am trying to connect.. but it doesn't work
[02:32] <Sivik> kitche, so whats the problem with it
[02:33] <Sivik> fraroco, did that help
[02:33] <digip1mp> wpc54g linksys card...
[02:33] <BrianG> can someone help me install BitTornado 0.3.15 on Dapper?
[02:33] <kitche> Sivik sethk let see running /sbin/lilo each time I upgrade my kernel :)
[02:33] <Sivik> BrianG, why bittornado, try something from aptitude
[02:33] <fraroco> Sivik:  I am download it
[02:33] <Sivik> kitche, that should work
[02:33] <Sivik> fraroco, why that one?
[02:33] <godzirra> info grub didnt raelly show me much :/
[02:33] <digip1mp> Sivik: wpc54g
[02:34] <BrianG> Sivik: because those don't work right. I need to use BitTornado 0.3.15
[02:34] <kitche> Sivik: but I like grub much more since I started to use it umm I upgrade my kernel alot Sivik since I use native wireless and it seems that it gets better on each release
[02:34] <Sivik> you can install ktorrent or bittorrent
[02:34] <BrianG> i dont want thsoe
[02:34] <Sivik> kitche, ok, then just install grub and it shoudl regonize the kernels
[02:34] <ashzilla> When I'm using GNU Ftp
[02:34] <ashzilla> how do I remove a file
[02:34] <ashzilla> ?
[02:34] <Sivik> BrianG: then run ./configure and then make and then sudo make install
[02:34] <emileifrem> Does anyone know how to install a latin1 locale in dapper?
[02:34] <fraroco> Sivik: do not have I to download it?
[02:34] <Sivik> BrianG, it was a tar that you untarred
[02:35] <bsdfox> hmm, my atheros card connected to it no problem. Is there a wpa issue with bcm4306/rt2500 chips?
[02:35] <Sivik> fraroco, so you haven't downloaded it yet
[02:35] <emileifrem> I need to be able to set LANG=en_US.ISO-8859-1
[02:35] <BrianG> i tried ./configure
[02:35] <bun-bun> BrianG:: the repositories have 0.3.13, it's what i'm using
[02:35] <Sivik> what does it say
[02:35] <BrianG> Sivik: yes
[02:35] <kitche> Sivik: it does .. but then again you didn't read what I kept saying
[02:35] <Sivik> BrianG: what did it say
[02:35] <BrianG> bun-bun: 0.3.13 isn't 0.3.15 ;)
[02:35] <Sivik> kitche, sorry
[02:35] <Sivik> why do you need 0.3.15?
[02:35] <Sivik> whats wrong with 0.3.13
[02:36] <BrianG> won't work ont he tracker i use
[02:36] <godzirra> So can anyone help get my xp partiation added to grub?
[02:36] <BrianG> hang on i'll tell you waht it said
[02:36] <Sivik> !pastebin
[02:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:37] <ashzilla> When I'm using GNU ftp how do I remove a file remotely
[02:37] <BrianG> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[02:37] <kitche> ashzilla: you mean the command line version?
[02:37] <sethk> BrianG,  you are in the wrong directory
[02:37] <aFx> ashzilla : remove in console mode
[02:37] <BrianG> how do i find o ut which is the right one?
[02:37] <sethk> brianG   ./configure means run the configure program here (./ mean in the current directory)
[02:38] <sethk> BrianG, did you extract from a tar archive?
[02:38] <sethk> brianG, extract source?
[02:38] <Nicole> hello, I got a Video CApture Kworld card and I am connecting my video camara, but I don't know where to start, what can I do
[02:38] <BrianG> i extracted http://download2.bittornado.com/download/BitTornado-0.3.15.tar.gz to my home
[02:38] <Sivik> Nicole, did you try checking wiki.ubuntu.com for that card
[02:38] <kitche> ashzilla: well it's delete if your using the console version
[02:38] <sethk> BrianG, then it is in $HOME/BitTornad0-0.3.15
[02:39] <ixian> is there a torrent program similar to uTorrent for linux?
[02:39] <sethk> BitTornado, I put a zero instead of the o
[02:39] <Sivik> ixian: ktorrent
[02:39] <Sivik> ixian: bittorrent
[02:39] <BrianG> sethk: that dosen't exist
[02:39] <Sivik> ixian: there are a bunch of different torrent programs for linux
[02:39] <LSD`> I use rtorrent myself
[02:39] <sethk> BrianG, ok, then do this:   ls -ld Bit*
[02:40] <sethk> BrianG, or, an easier way,    do   ls -ltr | tail -1
[02:40] <Sivik> BrianG, is there a install.sh file in that folder
[02:40] <ixian> i know there are lots but i like utorrent in windows so i wanted a similar one for linux
[02:40] <godzirra> So can anyone help get my xp partiation added to grub?
[02:40] <sethk> godzirra, did you answer my question about which partition windows is installed onto?
[02:40] <godzirra> sethk: I did.  I said /deb/sda1 :)
[02:40] <BrianG> it made a folder BitTornado-CVS
[02:40] <LSD`> ixian: you could try running utorrent in wine
[02:40] <godzirra> err /dev
[02:40] <sethk> godzirra, no such thing.  do you mean /dev/sda1?
[02:40] <ixian> LSD`: thats an idea
[02:40] <sethk> BrianG, ok, then     cd BitTornado-CVS
[02:41] <godzirra> sethk: yes, hence me saying "err/ dev" right after that :)
[02:41] <sethk> BrianG   you can do      cd BitT<tab>              (<tab> means press the tab key, which fills in the rest of the name)
[02:41] <godzirra> I'm on a laggy connection to my linux box.
[02:41] <ixian> is azureus similar to utorrent?
[02:41] <sethk> godzirra, k
[02:41] <ugarit> I'm trying to have perl executed as a cgi in apache2 and my webclient wants to downloaded it.  What's wrong?
[02:41] <Pierre> Gods_gift: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_Windows_entry_into_GRUB_menu
[02:41] <sethk> godzirra, so you add to the menu.lst file:
[02:41] <Pierre> arg
[02:41] <Pierre> godzirra: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_Windows_entry_into_GRUB_menu
[02:41] <BrianG> im in BitTornado-CVS
[02:41] <BrianG> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[02:41] <kitche> ixian: well azureus is a Java program it's sorta a memory hog but it's nice
[02:42] <ashzilla> Does anyone know how to upload a directory recursively with ftp?
[02:42] <digip1mp> Sivik: wpc54g linksys card... tried loading the windows drivers with ndiswrapper...
[02:42] <Sivik> digip1mp, not sure
[02:42] <sethk> BrianG, oh, if it's from CVS, that's not what you do
[02:42] <sidny4> anyone know how to test surround sound?
[02:42] <LjL> ashzilla: i don't know, but the "wput" package should be able to do that
[02:42] <BrianG> i extracted http://download2.bittornado.com/download/BitTornado-0.3.15.tar.gz to my home
[02:42] <sethk> godzirra, hold on, I'm still looking it up for you
[02:42] <Sivik> ashzilla, try using send /folder/folder -rF
[02:42] <godzirra> sethk: I got myost of it off that site that was just pasted
[02:42] <sethk> BrianG, yes, I know.  for a CVS pull, you don't start with ./configure
[02:42] <Sivik> BrianG: what are the files that are inside of that folder
[02:42] <BrianG> i just want ot know where i need to be or what to look for in order to ./configure
[02:43] <godzirra> just trying to see whether /dev/sda1 is (hd0,0)
[02:43] <ashzilla> Sivik: I will, thank you
[02:43] <sethk> godzirra, ok, then you don't need me, good luck.
[02:43] <Sivik> ashzilla, yw
[02:43] <godzirra> sethk: thanks for your help
[02:43] <sethk> godzirra, there is a file in /boot/grub that tells you which device is hd0
[02:43] <Brendon> Hi all, i'm having issues getting my mouse (logitech g7) to work, basically once x is open all i can do is move the mouse up and down. The mouse is plugged into a kvm switch (usb) but i tried plugging it into the pc directly but still got the same effect. Any ideas?
[02:43] <Sivik> BrianG, is there a file in that folder that you extracted that is currently green?
[02:43] <sethk> godzirra, called device.map
[02:44] <godzirra> ahh ko
[02:44] <godzirra> Got it.
[02:44] <BrianG> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26028/
[02:44] <godzirra> How do I make the windows partition the default one?
[02:44] <BrianG> green? thay're all green.
[02:44] <sethk> BrianG, ./configure is _not_ step one when you extract from CVS.   are you in the directory?  If you are, and if you are paying attention, I'll tell you how to do it.
[02:44] <ashzilla> Sivik: local: /home/ashzilla/Desktop/test remote: -rF
[02:44] <ashzilla> /home/ashzilla/Desktop/test: not a plain file.
[02:44] <BrianG> sethk: im in ~/BitTornado-CVS
[02:45] <ashzilla> local: /home/ashzilla/Desktop/test remote: -rF
[02:45] <ashzilla> /home/ashzilla/Desktop/test: not a plain file.
[02:45] <ashzilla> Oops, sorry for the double past
[02:45] <ashzilla> I was scrolled up. :x
[02:45] <sethk> BrianG, yes, I know that, I told you to cd to it, remember?
[02:45] <Sivik> BrianG: what happens if you run ./BitTornado ?
[02:45] <BrianG> just making sure we're on the same page
[02:45] <avagant> Ok guys I have a sound question haha.
[02:45] <BrianG> bash: ./BitTornado: is a directory
[02:45] <sethk> BrianG, I'll check in with you in a few minutes after you get done wasting time.
[02:46] <Sivik> avagant, what kind of sound problem
[02:46] <Sivik> BrianG, then go into that folder
[02:46] <Sivik> BrianG, if its a folder, then its not green
[02:46] <avagant> i just ran a script i found on a website to see if my sound was set up properly.
[02:46] <BrianG> colors don't help much, i have green text on a black background
[02:46] <avagant> and one of the messages was something along the lines that module config does not exist.
[02:46] <Sivik> BrianG, are you not in a x?
[02:46] <BrianG> brian@bertha:~/BitTornado-CVS/BitTornado$
[02:46] <avagant> http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=aadebug I got it from here.
[02:47] <avagant> it said "module conf does not exist and my kernel will not be autoloaded?"
[02:47] <storm-zen> Has anyone seen this message before: hub 2-0:1.0: connect-debounce failed, port 1 disabled ?
[02:47] <Nicole> Sivik nothing :(
[02:48] <BrianG> i'm in GNOME Terminal
[02:49] <Sivik> well, having green text is stupid, its hard to tell what is executable and whats not
[02:49] <ashzilla> Sivik: any last ideas?
[02:49] <avagant> it also says "cat /proc/asound/hwdep no such file or directory"
[02:49] <Sivik> ashzilla, what was the problem again and what did you try, i have way to omuch ging on
[02:49] <ashzilla> Sivik: nevermind, I'll figure it out later.
[02:50] <Sivik> ashzilla, k
[02:50] <BrianG> Sivik: ok it's on default so now we can color code
[02:50] <troughton> i got samba working now but how do i copy files accross the network Sivik ??
[02:50] <Sivik> BrianG, what of those files are colored
[02:51] <sethk> BrianG, you still don't want to know how to do it?
[02:51] <Sivik> ok, you can't tell by terminal
[02:51] <BrianG> in ~/BitTornado-CVS/BitTornado ? none.
[02:51] <LstyWnch> I need some help.  I think I muffed something.  When I double click a .bin file it tries to open in gedit
[02:51] <Sivik> can you open nautilus or something?
[02:51] <Sivik> LstyWnch, that means you haven't chmod it yet
[02:51] <BrianG> sethk: what are you talking about?
[02:51] <Dr_willis> LstyWnch,  what is this .bin supposed to be?
[02:51] <Sivik> .bin is normally a cd image
[02:51] <LstyWnch> java install packet
[02:52] <Sivik> LstyWnch, sudo chmod +x filename.bin
[02:52] <Sivik> LstyWnch, and then sudo ./filename.bin
[02:52] <Dr_willis> LstyWnch,  why not use the java pacakges in the repos?
[02:52] <Dr_willis> !java
[02:52] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[02:52] <troughton> i got samba working now but how do i copy files accross the network Sivik ??
[02:52] <avagant> Anybody?
[02:52] <Sivik> LstyWnch, what dr willis said
[02:52] <sethk> BrianG, I've offered to tell you how to do it several times, but you ignore me.
[02:52] <Sivik> troughton, do you have the right preledges when you connect to the other computer
[02:52] <Sivik> like the way an ftp works
[02:52] <BrianG> i'm open to anything
[02:52] <kRaKoN> hi
[02:52] <BrianG> i obviously want help or i wouldn't have asked for it
[02:53] <troughton> i am in terminal i should have full access
[02:53] <Sivik> troughton, just because you in terminal, doesn't mean crap
[02:53] <sethk> BrianG, seems that way, that's why I thought it was strange that you keep trying to run configure after I told you that configure isn't what you need to do.
[02:53] <Dr_willis> troughton,  the logic of that statement... is.. well.. lacking. :)
[02:53] <Sivik> troughton, i can login on my other computer as a guest and i only have access to certain file
[02:54] <sethk> BrianG, anyway, let me know when you are ready
[02:54] <newpZ> hi has anyone had success getting mplayer-plugin or gxine working in opera? ive been trying all day hehe
[02:54] <kRaKoN> I would like to get some information about ubuntu server I used ubuntu desktope but now that i intalled ubun server i don't know how to do most of the things because i don't have a grafic enviroment. I would like to setup a webserver on that one but i don't know how to do it, is there anybook, or tutorial?
[02:54] <troughton> ok so how do i access using comand privalage ??
[02:54] <Dr_willis> kRaKoN,  why not just install the desktop, and then install the server packages you want to use.
[02:54] <BrianG> sethk: i told you i was in the directory (because you asked)
[02:54] <BrianG> sethk: now what?
[02:54] <Sivik> troughton, sudo su if you know the root password
[02:55] <Sivik> just like you would do with something else
[02:55] <sethk> BrianG, you must be confusing me with someone else.  I'm the one who told you to cd to the directory.  In any event, are you ready to try to build it?
[02:55] <kitche> !apache > kRaKoN
[02:55] <BrianG> yeah
[02:55] <thoreauputic> kRaKoN: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/index.html
[02:55] <kRaKoN> Dr_willis: I did that before but with some reading i found out that the server version comes with more security, security that i don't know how to setup by myself
[02:55] <LstyWnch> I have another question.  Why can't I access root?  I installed and put all the passwords in.
[02:56] <sethk> LstyWnch, you need to set the root password
[02:56] <Dr_willis> kRaKoN,  id like to know what 'more security' it would come with.
[02:56] <thoreauputic> !root
[02:56] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:56] <Dr_willis> given how locked down ubuntu desktop is.
[02:56] <sethk> LstyWnch, the expert mode install prompts you for the root password, but the desktop does not.
[02:56] <Sivik> LstyWnch, you have to use sudo, you can't log into the system as root
[02:56] <sethk> BrianG, are you there?
[02:56] <kRaKoN> Lstywnch: you can use 'sudo su' to access like root
[02:56] <LstyWnch> K
[02:57] <BrianG> sethk: yeah
[02:57] <sethk> BrianG, are    python and wxPython isntalled?
[02:57] <BrianG> sethk: yeah
[02:57] <zizban> the installer on edgy eft is either really slow or doesn't work
[02:57] <sethk> BrianG,  ok, then, do this:         python setup.py install
[02:57] <LstyWnch> where does the file need to be located when I run sudo chmod?
[02:57] <kRaKoN> Dr:willis: well i don't know much about this , but i am consediring your suggestion as my second option ;)
[02:57] <Sivik> LstyWnch, it really doesn't matter where its located
[02:57] <sethk> LstyWnch, use the full path, then it won't matter what the current directory is.
[02:58] <BrianG> sethk: without sudo?
[02:58] <Sivik> LstyWnch, as long as you chmod +x it, it should be fine
[02:58] <LstyWnch> Sivik, it said no such file or directory
[02:58] <Tru7h> !installation
[02:58] <sethk> BrianG, I assume you need to be root, so use sudo
[02:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[02:58] <zizban> ah thank ye
[02:58] <sethk> BrianG, I don't sudo, I build as normal and install as root.  but sudo is fine.
[02:58] <BrianG> sethk: ok done
[02:59] <sethk> BrianG, ok, now you are ready to start
[02:59] <BrianG> eyah
[02:59] <Sivik> are you in the directory of the file that your trying to chmod +x to
[02:59] <troughton> so why is it so hard to access and share files on a linux network ???
[02:59] <sethk> BrianG, it suggests a line in /etc/mailcap as follows:
[02:59] <sethk> BrianG, application/x-bittorrent; /usr/bin/btdownloadgui.py %s; test=test -n "$DISPLAY"
[02:59] <troughton> all i want to do is copy files from my desktop to my laptop
[02:59] <sethk> troughton, not the least bit hard.  I do it all day long
[03:00] <troughton> how sethk ??
[03:00] <Dr_willis> troughton,  gee i find it rather trivial
[03:00] <sethk> troughton, what's the laptop running and what's the desktop running?
[03:00] <troughton> both running ubuntu
[03:00] <sethk> troughton, then you can transfer using sftp, or scp.
[03:00] <sethk> troughton, if those are missing, do (as root) apt-get install openssh-server     on both boxes
[03:01] <BrianG> sethk: one exists already but /usr/bin/btdownloadgui rather than /usr/bin/btdownloadgui.py
[03:01] <sethk> BrianG, right, they say to replace it.
[03:01] <BrianG> ok
[03:02] <sethk> BrianG, personally I would comment it out rather than replace  :)
[03:02] <LstyWnch> heh, duh, much easier to use the repository method
[03:02] <haary> Anyone knows a mp3player for X which is not QT or GTK based?
[03:02] <sethk> BrianG, then, theoretically, you are ready to click on a bit torrent thing.
[03:03] <BrianG> ok, edited
[03:03] <kitche> haary: most X players are qt or gtk based
[03:03] <troughton> ok sethk openssh-server on both computers
[03:03] <haary> kitche, I know, thats why I ask :-)
[03:03] <sid> If ubuntu is based in Isle of man(for tax purposes?) and their head quarters are in London, why is mplayer mangled to shit to remove some patented crap?
[03:04] <BrianG> sethk: 0.3.15 is now installed?
[03:04] <kitche> haary: I was gonna say xmms2 then remembered that it's console based
[03:04] <sid> Why does Ubuntu removed patented crap if they aren't in America, but are in Europe
[03:04] <haary> A mp3 player based on fox or fltk would be goog
[03:04] <haary> good
[03:04] <ChocoCid> because it's illegal for a usa person to have it, i think
[03:04] <sid> ChocoCid: right
[03:04] <sid> ChocoCid: but who cares
[03:04] <sid> fsck USA
[03:04] <LjL> !offtopic
[03:04] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:04] <ChocoCid> furthermore, ubuntu and debian have the philosophy that they only come with Free software
[03:05] <ChocoCid> which is why multiverse and universe are separated from the Free stuff
[03:05] <troughton> ok sethk what now ??
[03:05] <ChocoCid> (note the capital F there)
[03:05] <sid> OpenOffice.org probably has at least 100 patents in it, if you ask any knowledgeable OO.o dev who knows about patents.
[03:05] <kitche> sid: it to make FSF happy but then again FSF if you show people how to install it then FSF looks down upon your distro
[03:05] <sid> But OO.o is still in Ubuntu
[03:05] <BrianG> sethk: i got it running now. thank you for your help
[03:06] <LjL> ChocoCid: actually, the distinction with Universe is that its package are not mantained by the ubuntu core developers...
[03:06] <ChocoCid> er, ok, multiverse then
[03:06] <sid> Is there an ubuntu-legal like the debian-legal?
[03:06] <kitche> sid: umm it's not about patents it's more about the laws dealing with those patents and OO.o doesn't break any laws in reality
[03:06] <sid> kitche: sure it does, american patent law
[03:06] <sid> There are features that are infringing on others patents
[03:06] <sethk> BrianG,  np
[03:07] <LjL> could this possibly continue in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[03:07] <sid> kitche: Is there a website about this stuff? I can't find one.
[03:07] <sid> There doesn't seem to be a ubuntu-legal like there is debian-legal either.
[03:07] <Madpilot> sid, given that OOo is primarily developed by an American company (Sun), it's probably legal in the US... and in any case, please move this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:07] <thoreauputic> sid: I agree with LjL - take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:08] <kRaKoN> does anyone has install cpanel on ubuntu?
[03:08] <wickedpuppy> kRaKoN, is cpanel free ? i also wanna get ...
[03:08] <kitche> kRaKoN: probably not since you need a license for it
[03:09] <aSt3raL> what program can i use as a terminal on a serial port?
[03:09] <wickedpuppy> lol there goes my hopes kitche
[03:09] <LjL> aSt3raL: minicom
[03:09] <Madpilot> cpanel is decidedly non-free - licenses are expensive
[03:09] <troughton> sethk i have installed openssh-server what now ??
[03:09] <kitche> wickedpuppy there is free alternatives to it though
[03:09] <meatface> hey all
[03:09] <sethk> troughton, now you can sftp from one machine to the other.   or you can scp
[03:09] <wickedpuppy> kitche, like ... webmin ?
[03:09] <kRaKoN> kitche: but they give a trial, or do you know any control panel like cpanel that is for free?
[03:10] <thoreauputic> troughton: or you can use "connect to server" and specify ssh
[03:10] <wickedpuppy> kRaKoN, webmin ... its the closest i can think
[03:10] <kRaKoN> wickedpuppy: have you used it?
[03:10] <kitche> kRaKoN and wickedpupyp let me find one that is good webmin isn't what I m thinking of
[03:10] <wickedpuppy> kRaKoN, tes
[03:11] <wickedpuppy> thanks kitche
[03:11] <wickedpuppy> there is a web app better than webmin ? wow ... cool ...
[03:12] <kRaKoN> right webin is not that good
[03:13] <sethk> kRaKoN, webmin is great for some things.
[03:13] <Tennessee> Hi all .. does anyone here have any recommendations for system monitoring over the web?
[03:13] <kitche> kRaKoN and wickedpupyp VHCS which is open source I like that one
[03:13] <hollaback83> I cant chat other than irc and yahoo please help
[03:14] <wickedpuppy> VHCS ?
[03:15] <wickedpuppy> ah k let me check
[03:15] <hollaback83> I learned how to write a language got familiar with linux/unix and still dont know how to hack. can anyone help????
[03:15] <troughton> thoreauptic when i set a connect to server ssh i have put in my desktop name but it says can not find
[03:16] <hawkaloogie> hollaback83, what is your definition of "hack"?
[03:16] <wickedpuppy> hollaback83, and what language ?
[03:16] <ixian> what does it mean when a package has the little ubuntu circle thing by it in synaptic package manager?
[03:16] <hollaback83> i really dont know that is the problem. I guess it means to go somewhere without permission
[03:17] <hawkaloogie> hollaback83, that is called "Cracking", and it is illegal
[03:17] <hawkaloogie> do not ask for help on cracking on this network
[03:17] <hollaback83> so whats hacking
[03:17] <LjL> hollaback83: doing unusual and interesting stuff with computers
[03:17] <kitche> hollaback83: pretty much it means your a nerd :)
[03:17] <darkaura> can some one tell me how I can restore my mp3 player I tried formating it and it went dead
[03:17] <LjL> or that
[03:17] <halex-ab> ixian, it means it's part of the main repos, not in Universe, Multiverse, or your custom repos
[03:18] <ixian> oh i see.. thanks
[03:18] <hollaback83> i understand
[03:18] <troughton> thoreauptic when i set a connect to server ssh i have put in my desktop name but it says can not find
[03:18] <wickedpuppy> hollaback83, i would like to know what language you learnt ?
[03:18] <hollaback83> python
[03:18] <k82l> ..
[03:18] <hollaback83> and some of c++
[03:19] <hollaback83> the easiest ha ha
[03:19] <hawkaloogie> and this took you how long?
[03:19] <wickedpuppy> i thought shellcode + c ....
[03:20] <troughton> sethk i am new to linux how do i brows my network ??
[03:20] <hollaback83>  a few months for python and c++ i took inschool
[03:20] <hobbesmaster> troughton: as in smb shares
[03:20] <hobbesmaster> ?
[03:20] <hawkaloogie> hollaback83, so what have you done in those languages?
[03:21] <troughton> hobbesmaster as in smb shares meens nothing to me i am new to linux i dont know what you are talking about
[03:21] <hollaback83> the first program that i wrote let me use my webcam in black and white
[03:21] <pohwom> can you raid with 'fdisk' ?
[03:22] <wickedpuppy> troughton, browse your network like windows ? you can see all the computers connected to the same network as your computer ?
[03:22] <cschneid> how hard is a dual headed setup to do w/ nvidia drivers?
[03:22] <halex-ab> cschneid, not super hard.. lol
[03:22] <kRaKoN> kitche: VHCS looks great, I will install it right away
[03:22] <sethk> cschneid, not hard at all, you just edit the configuration file correctly.
[03:22] <kRaKoN> ktiche: thank you ;)
[03:22] <cschneid> sethk, so it's just an xorg.conf issue I can google up?
[03:23] <halex-ab> cschneid, as long as you have the nvidia driver already installed, yes..
[03:23] <cschneid> thats good :) thanks all
[03:23] <newpZ> hi how do i setup a vncserver on 1 pc so i can see the screen of the logged in user?
[03:24] <newpZ> vncserver ip:1         that give a new desktop
[03:24] <troughton> wickedpuppy i am running a linux ubuntu desktop and a linux ubuntu laptop i want to move files from my desktop to my laptop i have installed samba and openssh-server as i have been advised to by people in here but still cant see my network and when people advise me they leve me without me still having access
[03:24] <Pierre> !nvidia > cschneid
[03:24] <Pierre> cschneid: then twinview
[03:25] <GoldKeeper> erm..  does anyone know why my GUI would be super slow after upgrading to edgy ?
[03:25] <holycow> an error of some sort.  the new gnome version is super fast
[03:25] <wickedpuppy> wha .. troughton the moral of the story is don't do things unless you know ? well let me see if i can help ya there ... first ..is samba server running ??
[03:25] <kitche> troughton: well you need to use something like lineighborhood which is sorta like Network Neighboring in windows but for linux
[03:25] <troughton> yes
[03:25] <GoldKeeper> hmmm
[03:26] <GoldKeeper> let me try a reboot
[03:26] <holycow> troughton, samba is only usefull for windows access/services
[03:26] <holycow> troughton, just make sure you have ssh installed and do places / connect to server
[03:26] <troughton> wickeduppy this is basics in windows windows can see window and linux linux can see windows and exchange files without installing anything else or setting anything so why is it so hard in linux ?/
[03:26] <holycow> and type in the ssh information ... a link will be placed on your desktop, just click it and copy / paste files
[03:27] <holycow> troughton, its not hard, you just haveto know what you are doing and which protocol to use
[03:27] <holycow> on windows they have ONE protocol and it seems easy because everyone forgets that there is mroe than one way to transfer files
[03:27] <wickedpuppy> yup ... troughton we don't usually use smb for linux to linux ...
[03:27] <troughton> holycow i have ssh installed and have done places conect to server but what do i put under server
[03:27] <holycow> on linux its easier and far more secure you just need to know what protocol to match to what file sharing need
[03:28] <LjL> well, i do
[03:28] <holycow> troughton, ip address
[03:28] <troughton> i tryed ip address holycow
[03:28] <ChocoCid> need a port after it, maybe
[03:28] <holycow> port is 22
[03:28] <GoldKeeper> hmm
[03:28] <wickedpuppy> troughton, can tell us the exact ip address of the two machines and the command you are typing pls
[03:29] <holycow> username is the neame you login on th eother machine
[03:29] <sethk> ChocoCid, no, you don't use explicit ports
[03:30] <troughton> so i have to change the ip every time i reboot my computer ??
[03:30] <holycow> no
[03:30] <holycow> i told you
[03:30] <sethk> troughton, why?
[03:30] <holycow> it will place a shortcut on your desktop
[03:30] <holycow> jesus
[03:31] <sethk> troughton, if the machines are not in DNS and you reference them by IP and their IP address changes, then the command would change, yes, if that's what you mean.
[03:31] <troughton> i dont have static ip's everytime i reboot i my router gives each mashien a new ip
[03:31] <troughton> they are on a dns
[03:31] <digital_citizen_> holycow, holycow...........
[03:31] <holycow> troughton, then you need a local dns that tracks the machines
[03:31] <sethk> troughton, then use their name
[03:31] <hollaback83> Are there community groups in boston mass
[03:31] <Dr_willis> troughton,  you mean a DHCP ?
[03:31] <sethk> troughton, that's the entire point of DNS, so you can translate names to IP addresses
[03:31] <GoldKeeper> anyone have any ideas why my GUI is super slow after upgrading to edgy
[03:32] <kitche> hollaback83: yeah if you mean a LUG
[03:32] <troughton> dhcp yer sorry Dr_willis
[03:32] <sethk> GoldKeeper, specifically, no, but other people have had the same problem.
[03:32] <GoldKeeper> eek
[03:32] <holycow> GoldKeeper, try deleting your .gnome and .gnome2 dirs and loging out and logging back in
[03:32] <GoldKeeper> any fixs
[03:32] <GoldKeeper> ok
[03:32] <BrianG> sethk: i can safely remove this ~/BitTornado-CVS  correct?
[03:32] <sethk> troughton, if the machine name is   xyz,  then you would do    sftp whatever@xyz
[03:32] <hollaback83> yeah a lug
[03:32] <Dr_willis> troughton,  if you are running the dhcp server.. they can be set to assign specific ips to specific machines.. or just set up the box's to use static machines
[03:32] <sethk> BrianG, yes, but reverse the /etc/mailcap change
[03:33] <sethk> Dr_willis, he doesn't need to do that, the machines are in DNS
[03:33] <troughton> ok thanks
[03:33] <sethk> Dr_willis, he shouldn't be using IPs in the first place.
[03:33] <holycow> btw, you should be aware that windows machines find them selves because they run their own dns services internally
[03:33] <BrianG> sethk: why reverse it?
[03:33] <Dr_willis> sethk,  i think he miss-spoke and ment using DHCP when he said 'dns'
[03:33] <sethk> BrianG, because you said you are going to delete the program that it is pointing to
[03:33] <bruenig> can you open something with the terminal, and then close the terminal and have it still run?
[03:33] <sethk> Dr_willis, I don't think so, no, but I suppose it's possible.
[03:33] <GoldKeeper> deleting the .gnome dirs didnt seem to work
[03:34] <sethk> troughton, did you make an error when you said the machines are in DNS?
[03:34] <holycow> sethk, why not? how is he going to find resolve the machine names without dns?
[03:34] <kitche> bruenig: yes if you send the process to the background
[03:34] <troughton> yes i did sethk
[03:34] <Dr_willis> GoldKeeper,  theres also the .gconf* dirs
[03:34] <sethk> holycow, I didn't say he is going to resolve names without DNS.  I said that _he_ said that DNS is _already_ set up.
[03:34] <holycow> oh he has a dns server? in which case use the machine names
[03:34] <GoldKeeper> ill try thoose two
[03:34] <holycow> sethk, my bad *nod*
[03:34] <sethk> holycow, right, only now it turns out that apparently he hasn't  :)
[03:34] <bruenig> kitche, like lets say I want to open totem with the terminal, what would the command be, as opposed to just "totem" to have it be able to open and then stay open when I close the terminal
[03:34] <sethk> holycow, but he did say he had
[03:34] <Phuzion> Is there a network auto-config wizard thing through bash?
[03:34] <sethk> and Dr_willis is right again  :)
[03:35] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:35] <sethk> Phuzion, any program can be started with bash.   try network-admin
[03:35] <holycow> sethk, i missed that *nod*
[03:35] <Dr_willis> a "FIRST" according to my wife...
[03:35] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:35] <kitche> bruenig: totem & will keep it running until you log out
[03:35] <sethk> Phuzion, you'll need to run it as root, of course
[03:35] <troughton> sorry for all the trubble everyone i told u i was lerning you have been a grate help thank you everyone
[03:35] <bruenig> when I do totem &, and then close the terminal, totem still closes
[03:35] <regfire> Hello all, anyone have any luck with dapper and an ATI x1600 pro.....I havent dove into making it work yet and was wondering if anyone had any pointers
[03:36] <sethk> troughton, not trying to give you a hard time.
[03:36] <Phuzion> sethk, I'm talking about the wizard that comes up during installation
[03:36] <sethk> troughton, if you don't know what something means, then ask.
[03:36] <kitche> bruenig: odd it should stay open
[03:36] <sethk> Phuzion, I don't know whether the same wizard comes up during installation.  why would you want that one instead of the normal one?
[03:36] <bruenig> that was my thought
[03:36] <holycow> troughton, its no big deal, happy to help
[03:36] <Phuzion> sethk:  This machine has no desktop manager
[03:36] <Phuzion> It's just bash
[03:37] <Phuzion> I'll be back soon
[03:37] <sethk> Phuzion, in that case I would just edit the config files.  I don't know whether the text mode installer's network setup is available or not
[03:37] <Phuzion> k, thanks anyways
[03:38] <GoldKeeper> gui is still super slow
[03:38] <sethk> GoldKeeper, until something fixes it, it will continue to be slow.
[03:39] <sethk> GoldKeeper, any idea where it is spending it's time?   does top show anything interesting?
[03:39] <digip1mp> bah this sucks... I can't get my wireless working in ubuntu
[03:39] <torchie> me either
[03:39] <kitche> digip1mp what chipset?
[03:40] <GoldKeeper> things like moving windows minimizing or scrolling a website is what is very slow, there are no interesting signs of anything
[03:41] <digip1mp> not sure, but it's the linksys wpc54g.  I saw and tried this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5645... but it doesn't seem like installing the windows drives downloaded from linksys with ndiswrapper is making ubuntu use those drivers for the card...
[03:41] <digip1mp> pretty frustrating...
[03:43] <Lam_> i need something that can convert .bin files to .iso files
[03:44] <thoreauputic> !bchunk
[03:44] <ubotu> bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[03:44] <Lam_> thoreauputic: thanks
[03:44] <thoreauputic> :)
[03:44] <httpdss> digip1mp: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=Linksys .... or ndiswrapper
[03:44] <regfire> nice
[03:44] <dragonriot> is there a way to upgrade to the 2.6.18 kernel without losing the Ubuntu boot screen?
[03:46] <dragonriot> Nothing really... better question; Is there a way to get Synaptic Package manager to upgrade to 2.6.18 or do I have to do it manually (I don't mind doing it manually, but I'd rather Ubuntu KNOWS that I've upgraded the kernel...
[03:47] <kitche> dragonriot: think there is a document on how to make kernel packages
[03:47] <httpdss> digip1mp: or maybe ... http://ubuntuforums.org/tags/index.php/wpc54g/
[03:47] <dragonriot> last time I upgraded to 2.6.17.11, ubuntu wasn't happy with me, it said Linux was irretrievably broken...
[03:47] <shuan> anyone know how i can play mp3 and other files i used to be able to play in windows
[03:48] <shuan> i think it might be called win32 or summin
[03:48] <Dr_willis> !mp3
[03:48] <darkaura> install amorake
[03:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:48] <Dr_willis> w32codecs are  NOT the ones for mp3's :P
[03:48] <shuan> so which is the one for mp3's
[03:49] <Dr_willis> read the !mp3 url the bot just gave.
[03:49] <shuan> thanks
[03:49] <darkaura> !amarok
[03:49] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[03:50] <darkaura> thats what I use to play mp3s
[03:51] <shuan> i have amarok but its not playing mp3
[03:51] <ChocoCid> !restricted formats > shuan
[03:51] <kitche> !mp3 > shuan
[03:52] <TimM_> Does anyone here know how to enable the ica protocol on tsclient?
[03:53] <kitche> TimM_ do you mean teamspeak client or no?
[03:53] <guest_4> I am about to reinstall my grub boot loader -> grub-install path .. but I am not sure what to put for the path. fdisk -l returns this-> /dev/hda1   *           1       19270   154786243+  83  Linux
[03:53] <darkaura> I know this is stupid whats the unmount command?
[03:53] <thoreauputic> umount
[03:53] <guest_4> do I use /dev/hda?
[03:53] <thoreauputic> no "n" ;)
[03:53] <kitche> guest4: grub-install /dev/hda if you want to install on the MBR
[03:53] <guest_4> ok thanks!
[03:54] <TimM_> kitche, I mean the terminal server client.
[03:54] <GoldKeeper> lol is there anyway to revert back to stable from edgy
[03:54] <thoreauputic> GoldKeeper: not without much voodoo and pain, no
[03:54] <kitche> TimM_ ah isn't ica Citrix protocol?
[03:54] <dragonriot> can I upgrade to Edgy but only upgrade the kernel and nothing else?
[03:54] <GoldKeeper> k
[03:54] <guest_4> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[03:55] <guest_4> hmm
[03:55] <TimM_> kitche, yup.
[03:55] <guest_4> I already mounted hda1, not sure what this is
[03:55] <kitche> TimM_: think you have to use the Citrix client for that
[03:56] <tonyyaru1so> dragonriot: Sort of.
[03:56] <dragonriot> tonyyaru1so... how?
[03:56] <TimM_> kitche, I have RDP and RDPv5, but VNC, XDCMP and ICA are grayed out.
[03:56] <dragonriot> I only want the kernel, nothing else...
[03:56] <tonyyaru1so> dragonriot: You could add the edgy repositories, apt-get install the kernel, and then comment them back out to avoid upgrading anything else.
[03:56] <dragonriot> ah... good stuff... thanks.
[03:57] <whatthedeuce> Hey.  I'm getting very strange errors when I try to compile any c++ programs using Ubuntu.  Even a simple "Hello, World" program won't compile.  The error is about 10 lines long, and it starts with: "undefined reference to `std::cout'".  I have build-essentials installed.  What could cause this?
[03:58] <guest_4> can someone help? I know it's something small that I am not entering in the terminal
[03:58] <Phuzion> guest_4:  What is your problem?
[03:59] <wickedpuppy>  whatthedeuce paste to us the code pls ... use pastebin
[03:59] <wickedpuppy> i think you didn't do include <iostream> .. did you ?
[03:59] <guest_4> i'm trying to reinstall grub. I first mounted my hd-> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/    it's mounted, now I need to reinstall grub.. I tried grub-install /dev/hda but that did not work. Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[03:59] <dragonriot> anyone else having issues on the ubuntu forums?
[04:00] <Phuzion> link to what you're having problems with dragonriot?
[04:00] <Ruffles> hi there
[04:00] <Phuzion> Sup
[04:00] <dragonriot> Phuzion... the forums are down...
[04:00] <kitche> guest_4: chroot into where you mounted /dev/hda1
[04:00] <Ruffles> is it possible to downgrade firefox into 1.5 again? (i'm runnin' edgy btw)
[04:00] <dragonriot> and now back up
[04:01] <guest_4> how would I do about doing that? sorry :/
[04:01] <Dr_willis> hmmm xmms wont start,,,
[04:01] <wickedpuppy> and my rails app won't run ... what a lousy day
[04:01] <kitche> guest_4: chroot /mnt/ /bin/bash if you mounted /dev/hda1 to /mnt/ but you need to mount /proc also
[04:01] <Ruffles> anyone?
[04:02] <guest_4> ok it looks like it mounted
[04:02] <guest_4> do I now.. chroot /mnt/ /proc ?
[04:02] <whatthedeuce> wickedpuppy: iostream is included.  The code isn't really worth pasting.  It's just a hello world program.  I'm positive that there is nothing wrong with it (I've looked over it many times)
[04:02] <kitche> guest_4: chroot /mnt/ /bin/bash
[04:03] <Phuzion> Ruffles:  I suppose it would be possible to remove what the new Firefox has on your machine already, then compile the binaries from the version you want, if you can't figure out a simpler way
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> whatthedeuce, well up to ya .. but if i can;t run it here then i can't tell ya anything ...
[04:03] <xplic1t> whatthedeuce: paste it anyway =] 
[04:03] <ajt> Hi all. I left for the weekend and when I came home my Ubuntu system would not respond at all. So I did a hard reboot and when it went to boot all of a sudden I get  Grub error 17. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:03] <guest_4> ok that is done, so now I just try to reinstall? grub-install /dev/hda --no-floppy ?
[04:03] <Ruffles> Phuzion, thought of doing so on synaptic..
[04:03] <ajt> What file system does badger breezy use by default, ext3 or reiserfs?
[04:04] <Phuzion> I'm not a huge Synaptic user, so maybe someone else can help you out there
[04:04] <kitche> guest_4 yes but why the --no-floppy switch?
[04:04] <Phuzion> ajt:  ext3
[04:04] <guest_4> not sure, saw it on something.. what is that flag for?
[04:04] <ajt> Phuzion: ok
[04:04] <Phuzion> At least, that's my experience
[04:04] <kitche> guest_4 well it's something that you don't really need to use a switch for
[04:04] <Ruffles> Phuzion, can't get any other version from my repositories.. :(
[04:04] <mcscruff> FFS @ Kubuntu!!!!!
[04:05] <Ruffles> the only one available is bon echo2
[04:05] <guest_4> grub-install /dev/hda
[04:05] <guest_4> /dev/hda: Not found or not a block device.
[04:05] <Phuzion> Ruffles:  I'm going to suggest then compiling the binaries from sourceforge
[04:05] <Ruffles> nah.. i hate compiling :)
[04:05] <kitche> guest_4 you mounted /dev also?
[04:05] <Phuzion> Ruffles, it's not that hard
[04:05] <mcscruff> been using ubuntu on laptop and kubuntu on Desktop, booted desktop ealier and it cant mount /root filesystem
[04:05] <Buglouse> I've just installed MuSE 0.9.2 On my Ubuntu Distro.  The option to create a Lame Server is not available.. I only see the option to create a Ogg Server.  I have Lame installed and I can listen to mp3s using other media packages.
[04:05] <whatthedeuce> Here it is. http://monjaro.org/test.cpp
[04:06] <guest_4> no I don't think so, ok so I need to mount /dev >
[04:06] <guest_4> ?
[04:06] <Ruffles> Phuzion, yep but it gives me the impression that it messes up my system
[04:06] <Ruffles> plus i wouldn't be able to uninstall it
[04:06] <Phuzion> Not with Synaptic, no
[04:06] <mcscruff> guest_4, lost grub MBR?
[04:06] <kitche> guest_4 yes you have t mount it to /mnt/dev
[04:06] <Phuzion> But in all honesty, compiling is not that hard
[04:06] <Ruffles> i know how to compile
[04:06] <Phuzion> I compiled my first program after using Linux for 2 weeks
[04:07] <Ruffles> i just don't wanna mess up my os
[04:07] <mcscruff> compiling is best imo
[04:07] <Phuzion> You won't
[04:07] <guest_4> mount /mnt/dev
[04:07] <guest_4> mount: can't find /mnt/dev in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[04:07] <Ruffles> ok and how would i upgrade or uninstall a compiled software?
[04:07] <Ruffles> i don't even know where the files go to
[04:07] <mcscruff> Ruffles, instead of make install , use an app called checkinstall , then u can remove the app easier
[04:07] <Phuzion> Unless you do something along the lines of rm -rf / you're not going to mess up your OS
[04:07] <kitche> Ruffles only way to mess up linux is compile a system critical software wrong
[04:08] <guest_4> mcscruff, I am not sure what is wrong :/
[04:08] <whatthedeuce> wickedpuppy: Does it compile on your system?
[04:08] <guest_4> I just now my boot loader is messed up
[04:08] <guest_4> know
[04:08] <Ruffles> i was talkin' about all the garbage it produces
[04:08] <mcscruff> guest_4, i missed what the problem was, could you paste/retypee it pls
[04:08] <mcscruff> guest_4, did u install windows or another os?
[04:08] <wickedpuppy> hold on whatthedeuce
[04:08] <guest_4> sure.. I am trying to reinstall grub
[04:08] <Ruffles> i wouldn't be able to remove or even upgrade firefox afterwards
[04:08] <guest_4> I was going to, but didn't
[04:09] <dragonriot> is the Universe Repository the one for Edgy, or does Edgy have it's own set of repositories?
[04:09] <Ruffles> unless i compile it again
[04:09] <guest_4> but I think I messed up a small partition or something?
[04:09] <kitche> dragonriot it's own repos
[04:09] <Ruffles> i need .debs :D
[04:09] <mcscruff> guest_4, open console and type sudo grub
[04:10] <guest_4> ok, i'm at the grub menu
[04:10] <wickedpuppy> whatthedeuce, yes
[04:10] <wickedpuppy> it does run on my com ...
[04:10] <mcscruff> guest_4,  root (hd0,0)
[04:10] <mcscruff> or whatever ur hd is
[04:10] <wickedpuppy> whatthedeuce, how did you compile it ?
[04:11] <mcscruff> guest_4, setup (hd0)            <<change hdd if its different
[04:11] <jsilva> hi
[04:11] <guest_4> selected disk does not exist, do I use hd0,1 ? how can I find out? by calling fdisk -l?
[04:11] <mcscruff> guest_4, quit
[04:11] <jsilva> do you know a good tutorial for compiling mplayer with flv and mp4 support or a precompiled package?
[04:11] <mcscruff> guest_4, should have seen some shit then it should be ok
[04:11] <ArrenLex> jsilva: if you have w32codecs installed, mplayer will support them out-of-the-box, or with default compile options.
[04:12] <mcscruff> ruff|brb, use checkinstall to compile and make a .deb
[04:12] <ArrenLex> jsilva: google for the w32codecs package. Then you can just install mplayer from the ubuntu multiverse repositories.
[04:12] <whatthedeuce> wickedpuppy: I figured it out.  I was compiling it with gcc rather than g++.  I'm used to using C
[04:12] <jsilva> ArrenLex: but .3gp files doesn't have sound
[04:12] <wickedpuppy> whatthedeuce, :P happy coding!!!
[04:12] <ruff|brb> mcscruff, mmmm.. now you're speakin' my language.. how can i make a .deb from the source code?
[04:13] <ajt> Hi everyone. I just booted up my ubuntu machine and I get grub error 17. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:13] <mcscruff> ruff|brb, install an app called checkinstall (there is a deb on its homepage) , then do compile and make as normal but instead of make install , do checkinstall
[04:14] <ArrenLex> jsilva: that's different. You have to compile the codec. Download mplayer sources, extract the tarball, go to the libavcodec folder, and follow the directions found in the comments at the top of the amr.c file. That should set you up.
[04:14] <ruff|brb> mmmmm...
[04:14] <LSD`> ajt: partition might be toast :(
[04:14] <jsilva> ArrenLex: thanks, I'll try it
[04:14] <mcscruff> ruff|brb, it will make a deb then u just install the deb like normal
[04:14] <ruff|brb> mcscruff, will it copy any file outside the source directory itself ?
[04:14] <ruff|brb> sweet :D
[04:15] <ruff|brb> mcscruff,  thanks bro you're the pimp!
[04:15] <mcscruff> ruff|brb, i cant remember where it puts the .deb file, its either same dir or in temp
[04:15] <ajt> LSD`: what do you mean by "toast"?
[04:15] <mike-ekim> im tryin to get shell access to my box and its telling me that its connection refused
[04:15] <zspada15> i cannot get wifi to work with my broadcom airforce one
[04:15] <mike-ekim> could that be a iptables rule, or something that didnt install with ubuntu, like ssh daemon
[04:15] <darkaura> how would I format my mp3 player back to fat12 or whatever so I can use it again
[04:15] <mcscruff> mike-ekim, useing the correct username and password?
[04:16] <LSD`> ajt: kaput, dead, broke, you get the idea. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml#doc_chap5
[04:16] <ajt> mike-ekim: you need to install sshd and make sure your firewall is open
[04:16] <ajt> LSD`: ugh oh that's really not good
[04:16] <mike-ekim> yeah its telling me connection regused
[04:16] <ArrenLex> jsilva: or download this package, which is my own mplayer with amr support, but you might not have some libraries you need so it's not guaranteed to work. Make sure you have the libtheora package installed. http://arrenlex.diff.be/mymplayer_1.0pre8-1_i386.deb
[04:16] <mike-ekim> refused
[04:16] <wickedpuppy> mike-ekim, first .. is ssh running ? second is port 22 ? if so is it blocked in firewall ? if then user name and password correct ?
[04:16] <ajt> LSD`: you know of any way to fix it?
[04:16] <mcscruff> mike-ekim, remember to use the -l option to choose a username
[04:17] <Cas> Hi, I've a 1GB memory stick that only shows as 130MB after playing with gparted. I think the  heads, sectors/track and cylinders are wrong but how can I figure out to what I need to set this?
[04:17] <mister_roboto> mike-ekim: netstat -a|grep ssh will show you if ssh server is LISTENing
[04:17] <mnepton> Cas: use gparted to set an msdos disklabel
[04:17] <ruff|brb> mcscruff, will i need build-essential as well?
[04:18] <LSD`> ajt: it depends on how serious the damage is. Find a livecd, boot that and see if you can mount and fsck it
[04:18] <mike-ekim> mister_roboto its showing that it is listening
[04:18] <mister_roboto> mike-ekim: well connection refused means you are not reaching a listening server port. sounds like your iptables settings are blocking it
[04:18] <Cas> mnepton: that doesn't change the size does it? (/me tries it anyways)
[04:19] <ajt> LSD`: One set a head of you. I just booted up my suse rescure disk and tried to mount it but that didn't work
[04:19] <mike-ekim> hmm
[04:19] <mike-ekim> well
[04:19] <mike-ekim> what should i do
[04:19] <ajt> LSD`: let me get you the exact error
[04:19] <ixian> can someone tell me how i can uninstall a program i compiled from source? i followed a tutorial in a book to install Dillo web browser, but i'd like to uninstall it but don'tknow how
[04:19] <ArrenLex> ixian: run "sudo make uninstall" in the dillo source directory.
[04:20] <mister_roboto> mike-ekim: i don't know the answer well enough without looking it up myself. can you just disable the firewall temporarily to test it. should work. that would tell you for sure
[04:21] <ixian> thanks ArrenLex .. worked
[04:21] <Buglouse> Does anyone know where i can get the package libmp3lame?
[04:21] <ArrenLex> ixian: for future installs, look into checkinstall to build packages.
[04:21] <ArrenLex> !checkinstall
[04:21] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page. - DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[04:21] <ajt> LSD`: "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda7, missing codepage or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so"
[04:22] <ArrenLex> Buglouse: it's the "liblame0" package in the multiverse repos.
[04:22] <axel> cool
[04:22] <LSD`> ajt: :/ tried fski'ing it? Or does it need to be mounted for that?
[04:22] <ajt> LSD`: let me test
[04:22] <ajt> LSD`: rebooting w/ rescue cd now
[04:22] <ajt> LSD`: I don't think it needs to be mounted to fsck it
[04:23] <Snake> What kind of software could I use to control how my dual screen set up is?
[04:23] <ajt> Snake: what do yu mean controL?
[04:23] <Snake> I wnat it to extend my desktop over
[04:23] <Snake> rather than mirror it
[04:23] <LSD`> xinerama?
[04:23] <ArrenLex> Snake: "control"? And, what card?
[04:23] <ajt> Snake: xinerama woudl be it
[04:23] <Snake> ArrenLex: ATI 9600
[04:23] <ruff|brb> mcscruff, is it make checkinstall ?
[04:23] <Snake> Okay
[04:23] <Cas> mnepton: just did it and lost another 20MB :s
[04:23] <ajt> Snake: not sure if ubuntu has sax2 but you could use that to ocnfigure it
[04:24] <wickedpuppy> ajt, isn't that suse stuff ?
[04:24] <Snake> !info
[04:24] <ubotu> info: Standalone GNU Info documentation browser. In component main, is standard. Version 4.8-4 (dapper), package size 209 kB, installed size 384 kB
[04:24] <Snake> !info xinerama
[04:24] <ubotu> Package xinerama does not exist in any distro I know
[04:24] <ajt> wickedpuppy: yeah, I'm just used to using it
[04:24] <Snake> its not in the repos?
[04:24] <wickedpuppy> Snake, what is it that you would like to get ? pls ask here
[04:25] <guest_4> ok, no luck yet reinstalling grub.. how can I paste to the paste bin?
[04:25] <Snake> wickedpuppy: the program they just said,
[04:25] <ArrenLex> !pastebin
[04:25] <wickedpuppy> !pastebin
[04:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:25] <Snake> xinerama
[04:25] <sureshot> !xinerama
[04:25] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[04:25] <wickedpuppy> funny .. i always win ...
[04:25] <ajt> Snake: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=341003
[04:26] <guest_4> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26034/ there is my attempt.. can someone please help
[04:26] <Buglouse> I've just installed MuSE 0.9.2 On my Ubuntu Distro.  The option to create a Lame Server is not available.. I only see the option to create a Ogg Server.  I have Lame installed and I can listen to mp3s using other media packages.
[04:26] <Phuzion> Where do I edit DNS servers?
[04:26] <Buglouse> Does anyone know what do to to get the Lame Option?
[04:27] <kfm82northwood> Phuzion: /etc/resolv.conf
[04:27] <Phuzion> thanks
[04:27] <ruff|brb> after having done the ./config and make thingy.. what do i do with checkinstall?
[04:27] <ruff|brb> is it make checkinstall ?
[04:27] <Phuzion> What is the format to add in an IP address for resolv.conf?
[04:28] <Phuzion> I don't have one on my system for some reason
[04:28] <ArrenLex> ruff: no, just sudo checkinstall
[04:28] <Madpilot> nixternal, ping - PM me about your -ops request
[04:28] <guest_4> can someone please help me reinstall grub? I have work that I did not back up before this happened.
[04:28] <wickedpuppy> Phuzion, nameserver 202.156.1.48
[04:28] <wickedpuppy> don't use that IP though
[04:28] <Lam_> !bchunk
[04:28] <ubotu> bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[04:29] <darkaura> whats a good partioning program for ubuntu
[04:29] <Phuzion> wickedpuppy, thanks
[04:29] <wickedpuppy> np
[04:29] <mcscruff> ruff|brb, sorry i was fixing my other pc, you just use "checkinstall"
[04:29] <wickedpuppy> dark, i l iike fdisk ..there is also cfdisk and gparted
[04:29] <ruff|brb> ArrenLex, does it need to be run from within the source directory?
[04:29] <wickedpuppy> no no its for darkaura
[04:29] <wickedpuppy> sorry
[04:30] <ArrenLex> ruff|brb: from the same place you would have run make install.
[04:30] <mcscruff> darkaura, qtparted
[04:30] <ruff|brb> i see
[04:30] <ruff|brb> thanks :)
[04:30] <ArrenLex> ruff: essentially all checkinstall does is run "make install" and watch what files get installed, then puts all these files into a package. It's not magic.
[04:31] <ruff|brb> ArrenLex, would i need to do a dpkg -i ?
[04:31] <ArrenLex> ruff: no; checkinstall installs it automagically if it builds correctly.
[04:31] <ruff|brb> mmmm.. cool
[04:31] <ruff|brb> lemme try it
[04:31] <Gk-s2-> someone here know how to fix direct rendering: No ?
[04:32] <CripperZ> hi guys
[04:32] <ArrenLex> Gk: what driver? what card?
[04:32] <CripperZ> i wonder if anyone have used tspc ipv6 tunnel broker ... i need a bit of help
[04:33] <ruff|brb> oooh... the file i got from firefox's site is the binary already compiled
[04:33] <ajt> LSD`: I tried to run fsck.ext3 on it and it said to run e2fsck -b 8193 /dev/hda and that gave me the error "Bad magic numb er in super-block while tryong to open /dev/hda"
[04:33] <Rug> Does anybody have any experience setting up Dell Servers?  I just got one (second-hand) and I can't get it to recognize more then 2 SCSI disks at one time.  (port #3 & #9 seem to be the only ones that work)
[04:33] <LSD`> ajt: :/
 Gforce 4 mx 440 128mb
[04:33] <GoldKeeper> errr
[04:33] <ArrenLex> Gk-s2: what driver are you trying to use with it?
[04:33] <GoldKeeper> i installed edgy but i aint getting no flashy aiglx effects
[04:34] <yarddog> !edgy
[04:34] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
 Driver?
[04:34] <ajt> LSD`: :/ is right
[04:34] <b03nto> !xdm
[04:34] <ubotu> xdm: X display manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-6ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 150 kB, installed size 748 kB
[04:34] <ArrenLex> Gk-s2: yes. Pastebin the output of "/etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver" ; there should be four or so lines.
[04:34] <kitche> Goldkeeper you have to enable thema nd install beryl or compiz
[04:34] <ArrenLex> Sorry, that's "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver"
[04:35] <b03nto> anyone know how to put shutdown or reboot button on xdm ?
[04:35] <Gk-s2->         Driver          "kbd"
[04:35] <Gk-s2->         Driver          "mouse"
[04:35] <Gk-s2->   Driver        "wacom"
[04:35] <Gk-s2->   Driver        "wacom"
[04:35] <Gk-s2->   Driver        "wacom"
[04:35] <Gk-s2->         Driver          "nvidia"
[04:35] <Gk-s2-> sorry for flood
[04:35] <ArrenLex> !pastebin
[04:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:35] <dragonriot> I have an HP ZD8000 laptop with an ATI Mobility Radeon X600... I've seen lots of issues with upgrading to Edgy and not having fglrx functionality after the upgrade... is that problem fixed yet, or should I not upgrade to edgy until the next RC?
[04:37] <Lam_> Nvidia uses GLX; can ATI cards utilize the same rendering mode, or are we locked into DRI?
[04:37] <Gk-s2-> ty ArrenLex
[04:37] <mike-ekim> i did iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -s sourceip --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[04:37] <mike-ekim> and the connections are still now allowed from that iup
[04:38] <judy> can anyone tell me where the channel topic list is that is referenced when some executes  !pastebin  i have never seen a channel topic there
[04:38] <ArrenLex> Gk-s2: can you pastebin your entire /etc/X11/xorg.conf, please?
[04:38] <Gk-s2-> k
[04:38] <ArrenLex> Gk-s2: how did you install your nvidia drivers?
[04:38] <Madpilot> judy, type "/topic"
[04:38] <Madpilot> judy, without the "", of course
[04:38] <NineTeen67Comet> Any Aiptek U8000 tablet users in here? I've got one I have not been able to use since I got it a year ago.
[04:38] <judy> Madpilot: ok thanks i will try it
[04:38] <loper06> what was the name of the windows app that can allow you to write to ur linux parition from windows?
[04:39] <GoldKeeper> !aiglx
[04:39] <ubotu> AIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.
[04:39] <judy> Madpilot:  of course thanks
 Apt-get install nvidia-glx
 Apt-get install nvidia**
[04:39] <GoldKeeper> !compiz
[04:39] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:39] <ArrenLex> Gk-s2: have you restarted after doing this?
http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26036/
[04:40] <Gk-s2-> yes
[04:40] <ruff|brb> The-Terminator, :D
[04:40] <Gk-s2-> and i have xgl with compiz too
[04:40] <Gk-s2-> but not work
[04:40] <Phuzion> Anyone got some time and doesn't mind doing some one on one help with getting a machine onto a network?
[04:40] <freemind> compiz is old, try beryl
[04:41] <ArrenLex> Gk-s2: why are the lines Load	"dri" 036. and Load    "GLcore"  commented out?
[04:41] <ArrenLex> Sorry, ignore that 036.
[04:41] <Gk-s2-> Xgl
[04:42] <ArrenLex> Gk-s2: ...sorry?
[04:42] <Gk-s2-> Xgl Tutorial ....said to comment that line
[04:42] <Gk-s2-> i dont know why
[04:42] <mike-ekim> could it be that i dont have ssh listening
[04:42] <ArrenLex> Gk-s2: try uncommenting the dri line. Leave the gl line alone for now.
[04:43] <babo> what's the easiest way to upgrade my emacs version ?
[04:43] <Gk-s2-> k
[04:43] <mike-ekim> even localhost connect gives me refused
[04:43] <The-Terminator> ??
[04:43] <yarddog> !xgl
[04:43] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:43] <ghostshadow189> hi all , i'm testing  "gnome-terminal --window --execute perl test.pl"  , after that it opened a terminal window , but this window disappeared . so how can i make it still appear to see the result of test.pl script ?
[04:43] <judy> !glx
[04:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:44] <ruff|brb> The-Terminator, hello mister
[04:44] <babo> emacs 22 isn't in the repos ?
[04:44] <The-Terminator> ah there you are Ruffy :)
[04:44] <ghostshadow189> what's terminator ?
[04:44] <babo> Is it stable ?
[04:45] <The-Terminator> terminator me \as in the film
[04:45] <loper06> what was the name of the windows app that can allow you to write to ur linux parition from windows?
[04:45] <jrib> !ext3
[04:45] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[04:45] <loper06> thx
[04:45] <Flannel> babo: emacs 21 is in dapper repos
[04:45] <ghostshadow189> s1 help me pls
[04:46] <erickm> My girlfriend would like to play a nice rpg game for linux. She used to play some windows games but I rather see if she would like some native linux games before installing windows on another partition. I have tried using wine but with my experience it only seems to work on few games I've tried. Maybe becaise of my 64 bit architecture and forcing the i386 to install? So.. does anyone know of a single player rpg games? Something with impressi
[04:46] <ghostshadow189> i'm testing  "gnome-terminal --window --execute perl test.pl"  , after that it opened a terminal window , but this window disappeared . so how can i make it still appear to see the result of test.pl script ?
[04:46] <babo> Flannel: yes, but not emacs 22
[04:46] <hobbesmaster> uhm, just open a terminal window and execute it from there?
[04:46] <Flannel> babo: correct.  versions are frozen in repository.
[04:46] <d00by> anybody know why airodump-ng would freeze when running alongside aireplay-ng?
 need restart x?
[04:47] <Gk-s2-> brb
[04:47] <windtw> hello..Bug #63516 is fixed?
[04:47] <ArrenLex> Gk-s2: yes.
[04:48] <darkaura> okay I need help I'll explain my situation I tried formating my mp3 player with linux, so I could possible get songs on it, I messed it up I was wondering if it was possible to restore the original file system on it so I can use it again
[04:48] <mister_roboto> erickm: have you tried googling for linux rpg games?
 Didn't work
[04:49] <ArrenLex> darkura: every mp3 player I've seen has the option to reformat built in. Look through the menus.
[04:49] <erickm> yeah, I tried searching the ubuntu game forums too but could not find anything great for single player :/
[04:49] <Alakazam_> AIGLX, how can i get it.
[04:49] <The-Terminator> I know some games just got them from a linux mag
[04:49] <Shaezsche> anyone know how to get the intel wireless 3945 card working on ubuntu???
[04:49] <ArrenLex> Gk-s2: pastebin the output if "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE"
[04:50] <darkaura> I don't think this one does its an Curtis 256 meg mp3 player that directly plugs into the usb slot
[04:51] <wooptydoo> I used easyubuntu to install xine, and somehow I have 2 versions of the program installed it 2 different locations
 sorry can you say what i should type again?
[04:51] <ruff|brb> The-Terminator, wanna found bright-star and euro-chat here? :D
[04:51] <wooptydoo> Anyone know the repository for the xine that will play encrypted dvd's
[04:51] <babo> Flanne: what do you mean by 'frozen'. I wouldn't expect anyone to rename it ... but I figured that maybe the newer emacs 22 might be in there :P
[04:51] <ArrenLex> Gk-s2: pastebin the output if "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE"
[04:51] <wooptydoo> or a link to it?
[04:52] <Ciaus> I have installed Ubuntu 6.06 on my home PC, an IBM Model x40 - All in One unit - , and the very first tiem it cam e up just fine into Xserver....after doing online updates, it no longer goes into the GUI
[04:52] <guto> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26039/
[04:52] <ArrenLex> wooptydoo: you need to grab the libdvdcss package. This is not available in any ubuntu repositories because it's illegal essentially everywhere. You'll have to google for it.
[04:52] <totall_6_7> can anyone tell me why when i type users i get a list that is two of my user name??
http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26039/
[04:52] <AbortD> how do i use dual monitors with ubuntu?
[04:52] <wooptydoo> I got libdvdcss
[04:52] <Ciaus> I have tried to get back to a working gui by doing two whole reinstalls, to no avail
[04:52] <jrib> totall_6_7: type 'w'
[04:52] <jsilva> ArrenLex: thanks for the precompiled mplayer package, it does work ;)
[04:52] <The-Terminator> Ruffy we were thinking of putting them on viperirc but here would be a good place to
 how can i remove some shortcuts of keyboard
[04:52] <Ciaus> help
[04:52] <wooptydoo> easyubuntu installed that just fine
[04:52] <ArrenLex> jsilva: glad I could be of help!
[04:53] <wooptydoo> I just have 2 xines installed
[04:53] <ArrenLex> guto: like what?
[04:53] <ArrenLex> guto: Try restarting the machine completely. o_o that is very odd.
[04:53] <Buglouse> I've just installed MuSE 0.9.2 On my Ubuntu Distro.  The option to create a Lame Server is not available.. I only see the option to create a Ogg Server.  I have Lame installed and I can listen to mp3s using other media packages.  I would like to know how to get the Lame option in MuSE.
[04:53] <wickedpuppy> totall_6_7, open a new terminal and try it again ... see how many did you get
[04:53] <guto> k brb
[04:53] <thombone> wooptydoo: google for automatix and be happy :)
 xgl add a shorcut "Shift+Backspace" to restart X
[04:54] <wooptydoo> I installed that too
[04:54] <wickedpuppy> thombone, pls do not recommend automatix here
[04:54] <wickedpuppy> oh boy
[04:54] <totall_6_7> freaky   :0       -                29Sep06 ?xdm?   2:04   8.08s x-session-manag
[04:54] <totall_6_7> freaky   pts/2    :0.0             19:53    0.00s  0.16s  0.01s w
[04:54] <wooptydoo> and it screwed stuff up
[04:54] <mister_roboto> Ciaus: if X is broken from the upgrade, you might find a clue in the log /var/log/Xorg.0.log (or Xorg.0.log.old from previous time)
[04:54] <thombone> sorry didn't know
 I always mistake
[04:54] <wooptydoo> I just want to keep it simple
[04:54] <thombone> my bad, and aplogies
[04:54] <root> lame is an encoder... has nothing to do with listening AFAIK
[04:55] <wickedpuppy> totall_6_7, eh ah .... that has the answer in itself ?
[04:55] <Phuzion> How do I install mp3 codecs for gnome music player?
[04:56] <totall_6_7> wickedpuppy: sorry maybe i am being thick, but i dont quite understand it
[04:56] <jrib> ubotu: tell Phuzion about mp3
[04:56] <Ciaus> mister_roboto, thx.
[04:56] <HLM> !mp3
[04:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:56] <jrib> totall_6_7: when you open up a new terminal, it registers as another user
[04:57] <nikin> sry ... i was root :D
[04:57] <jrib> totall_6_7: the 'w' let's you see the command that the user is doing in the WHAT column
[04:57] <darkaura> !cdrom
[04:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdrom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:57] <Ciaus> !xserver
[04:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:57] <The-Terminator> Ruffy?
[04:58] <wickedpuppy> totall_6_7, look at the second column first row.. :0 is the console .. look at the last value it says its running X .. second row says pts .. thats i think its public terminals
[04:58] <totall_6_7> jrib: thanks, now i get it, i CAN be thick at times lol
[04:58] <wickedpuppy> look for pts on google if you wanna know what is it
[04:58] <jrib> totall_6_7: :)
[04:58] <wickedpuppy> oh jrib already explained .. goodie
[04:58] <azureal> a few days ago I had managed to mess up my ubuntu (or at least X) by upgrading to edgy w/ apt... now i get a "no screens found" error, and it will not start the gui -- any advice?
[04:58] <ANTDx1> Hello.
[04:58] <The-Terminator> does anyone here use Mepis 6?
[04:59] <ArrenLex> azueral: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:59] <azureal> i've tried downgrading xserver-xorg
[04:59] <totall_6_7> wickedpuppy: thanks for the help :D
[04:59] <ANTDx1> I have a very big problem: my Ubuntu partition has a problem with networking and refuses to boot.
[04:59] <SeanTater> root cannot delete a directory. rm -rf has no effect, root is not permitted to lstat. What do I do about it?
[04:59] <azureal> ArrenLex, i think i tried that before, to no avail
[04:59] <wickedpuppy> totall_6_7, sometimes see where is the difference between the results ... thats usually the answer
 Did'nt work =\
[04:59] <ArrenLex> azureal: are you certain you're using the correct driver for your card?
[04:59] <wickedpuppy> SeanTater, ls -l on the dir and paste here pls
[05:00] <ArrenLex> Gk-s2: pastebin your entire /var/log/Xorg.0.log, please
[05:00] <azureal> ArrenLex, yea, i810-- it was already highlighted
[05:01] <SeanTater> wickedpuppy: total 0 \n drwxrwxrwx 3 root users 80 2006-10-08 22:45 My Webs (I replaced the newline with \n to have it on one line)
 I don't have any
[05:01] <azureal> ArrenLex, currently i'm backing up for a reinstall =/
[05:01] <wickedpuppy> SeanTater, thats 777 .. meaning anyone can do anything
[05:01] <azureal> i might have messed up something else along the way
[05:01] <SeanTater> wickedpuppy: but I can't
[05:01] <SeanTater> wickedpuppy: rm: cannot lstat `/media/disk/Sean/My Documents from Linspire/Really old data/Old Data//My Webs/Tiki Tan website/pictures_of_our_salon.htm': Permission denied
[05:02] <LSD`> OK, so I install edgy from a CD but now it's prompting me to do a full dist upgrade anyway, WTF?!?!
[05:02] <AAA> anyone here using kubuntu?
[05:02] <wickedpuppy> SeanTater, if i were you i would check on that file
[05:02] <ArrenLex> Gk-s2: you used to have one. What happened to it?
[05:02] <SeanTater> wickedpuppy: how?
 try /join #kubuntu
[05:02] <wickedpuppy> btw its a cd ?
[05:02] <bimberi> SeanTater: is that on a ntfs partition?
[05:02] <ArrenLex> AAA: I am.
[05:02] <azureal> ArrenLex, perhaps my debfoster pruning of gnome* might have had something to do with the errors.... i had attempted to upgrade to edgy w/o ubuntu-desktop package =)
[05:02] <wickedpuppy> SeanTater, is it a cd ? or windows partition ?
[05:02] <SeanTater> bimberi: nope
[05:03] <SeanTater> wickedpuppy: no, reiserfs
[05:03] <Gk-s2-> i typed gedit "var/log/Xorg.0.log" and make a new file
[05:03] <ArrenLex> azureal: what would happen if you tried reinstalling x-window-system-core and xserver-xorg?
[05:03] <AAA> ArrenLex  I just /join #kubuntu but I am wonder about the lack of sound from amarok
[05:03] <SeanTater> wickedpuppy: reiserfs 3, I think
[05:03] <wickedpuppy> SeanTater, then i would check on that file
[05:03] <ArrenLex> Gk-s2: slash at the beginning of that.
[05:03] <ArrenLex> Sorry, don't use Amarok.
[05:03] <erickm> Ok, everytime I download a game and try to run the binary I get this error-> error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ... Now I have pretty much all the sdl development libraries installed. I also had to recompile a game I wrote just to run it on my machine. Can someone please help? I am using ubuntu64 bit
[05:03] <The-Terminator> Does anyone here use Mepis 6?
 ?
[05:04] <azureal> ArrenLex, because of my edgy sources, it would probably just get and install the same harmful versions
[05:04] <SeanTater> wickedpuppy: What should I look for? (and how)
[05:04] <AAA> ArrenLex  that is the default for kubuntu which used the xine engine that isn't installed , sup wit day?
[05:04] <burepe> Has anyone installed the Last Fm linux program? Is there an ubuntu package?
[05:04] <[5D] Silent_Chaos> I'm starting screen before logging in with init.d. Is there a way to start screen for a particular user to access after they log in?
[05:04] <mike-ekim> what is postfix for
[05:04] <wickedpuppy> SeanTater, see if the file exists and if it does can you delete it if not can you move it or something .. btw if it a shared partition ? why is it reiser ?
[05:04] <wickedpuppy> mike-ekim, mail server
[05:05] <erickm> can someone please help?
[05:05] <SeanTater> wickedpuppy: It's reiserfs because that's what linspire used by deafult when I created it
[05:05] <AAA> mike-ekim  mail transfer agent
[05:05] <SeanTater> wickedpuppy: it's an external hard drive
[05:05] <burepe> !last fm
[05:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about last fm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <wickedpuppy> SeanTater, tell you what ... go to another dir ... and delete another file see if you can do so
[05:06] <mike-ekim> oh
[05:06] <mike-ekim> is it known to be good software, or too vulnerable to security exploits?
[05:06] <wickedpuppy> mike-ekim, its like sendmail
[05:06] <mike-ekim> i havent worked much with mail daemons
[05:06] <wickedpuppy> mike-ekim, its excellent
[05:06] <mike-ekim> kool
[05:06] <mike-ekim> :D
[05:07] <SeanTater> wickedpuppy: um -- I just moved the file I could not delete.. and it did move -- I'll see if I can delete it now
[05:07] <nikin> my router does not let me traceroute... is there any special setting needed?.. an open port?
[05:07] <AAA> mike-ekim  postix or exim or qmail is your best MTA bet
[05:07] <ghostshadow189> hi all , i'm testing  "gnome-terminal --window --execute perl test.pl"  , after that it opened a terminal window , but this window disappeared . so how can i make it still appear to see the result of test.pl script ? help me pls ?
[05:07] <wickedpuppy> SeanTater, ok
[05:07] <SeanTater> wickedpuppy: I've been deleting files on that partition all day
[05:07] <lakio> how can i get WMP9 streaming to come up embedded in firefox? gotta see my comedycentral.com videos
[05:07] <wickedpuppy> SeanTater, then perhaps only that file got the problem
[05:07] <ArrenLex> lakio: mplayer and mplayerplug-in.
[05:07] <lakio> ArrenLex: THANKS!
[05:08] <wickedpuppy> ghostshadow189, why do you need that gnome-termial windows thing ? i will just open up terminal and type perl test.pl
[05:08] <bimberi> nikin: what's the error?
[05:08] <SeanTater> wickedpuppy: seems so, I still cannot delete it
[05:08] <wickedpuppy> SeanTater, then reformat the drive
 and now?
[05:08] <wickedpuppy> if you want to delete everything
[05:08] <SeanTater> wickedpuppy: hey -- would it be possible to move it directly into /dev/null ?
[05:08] <wickedpuppy> SeanTater, try it
[05:09] <SeanTater> wickedpuppy: mv: cannot overwrite non-directory `/dev/null' with directory `/media/disk/nothing'
[05:09] <ghostshadow189> wickedpuppy : i want to make a script to add it to menus and when i click to it , it appear a terminal to run the script i want
[05:09] <ArrenLex> Gk-s2: and now what?
[05:09] <wickedpuppy> SeanTater, are you deleting everything ?
[05:09] <SeanTater> wickedpuppy: I have loads of GBs of important files on it, I can;t delete it..
 what should i do ?
[05:09] <SeanTater> wickedpuppy: no, I;m organizing
[05:10] <wickedpuppy> SeanTater, then backup those important files
[05:10] <wickedpuppy> clearly something is wrong ...
[05:10] <SeanTater> wickedpuppy: My backups went wild, and I;m colsolidating
[05:10] <ArrenLex> Gk-s2" are you sure you don't have /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[05:10] <nikin> binberi.. when i try to traceroute i get to 192.168.0.1 , my router.. but not any further
[05:10] <wickedpuppy> SeanTater, if backup went wild then something already went wrong even before you got to this error ?
[05:11] <wickedpuppy> ghostshadow189, ok ... ask in #perl
[05:11] <SeanTater> wickedpuppy: no, it wasn;t automated, it's just that over years of backups I kept them in different folders..
[05:11] <SeanTater> wickedpuppy: I've spend about a week putting them together --
[05:12] <wickedpuppy> SeanTater, you put your backup into that drive ? but now you are deleting old stuff?
[05:12] <Gk-s2-> hmm now i have =D
[05:13] <Gk-s2-> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26040/
[05:15] <darkaura> okay when I try to format my mp3 player to fat16 it deletes the partition fine, but it gives me the following error:: Error committing device this can happen when a device is mounted in the disk try to unmount all partitions on this disk.   I don't have any partitions mounted
[05:15] <digip1mp> i give up
[05:15] <digip1mp> wireless just wasn't meant to be
[05:15] <SeanTater> wickedpuppy: I put all my backups on that drive. But they were a backup here, and a backup there, not really very well managed. So I'm trying to keep them in one place now. I'm deleting the duplicates. Nothing big or fancy..
[05:15] <erickm> ok, each game I find does not work with amd64 chips. Does anyone know where I can find some good rpg games for my architecture? :/
[05:16] <erickm> I wanted to try lost labyrinth, i forced the deb install but it didn't work
[05:16] <wickedpuppy> night dude
[05:17] <Josh43> Anyone running a multimonitor setup?
[05:17] <Josh43> and not xinerama?
 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26040/
[05:18] <ArrenLex> lakio: what are we thanking me for? xD
[05:18] <siriusnova> dang
[05:18] <darkaura> anyone have suggestions on what I can do?
[05:18] <siriusnova> north korea tested a nuke
[05:18] <ArrenLex> ...please ignore me.
[05:19] <ArrenLex> Gk-s2: I saw it, man.
[05:19] <MTecknology> i'm trying to follow these instructions now - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25151 ... i dide dmesg | grep wacom - and got nothing... then i searched synaptics for wacom and everything it returned was installed
[05:19] <MTecknology> so, what do i do?
 and?
[05:20] <macographer> Can someone tell me what OCaml is, in reference to the libpcre-ocaml package?
[05:20] <macographer> i'm trying to figure out if that's the package i need.
[05:20] <ArrenLex> Sorry, I don't know... you should be fine. The best I can tell you is to suggest a guide that worked for me with an nvidia card. But you should be fine and I don't know what your problem is. Sorry.
[05:20] <Gk-s2-> =) ok
[05:20] <Gk-s2-> thank you
[05:21] <Lam_> how do i correctly play back RM files? (real media)  or, preferably, how do i sucessfully convert said RM file into something better?
[05:21] <ArrenLex> Gk-s2: http://tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.txt
[05:21] <ArrenLex> Lam: mplayer and mencoder, respectively! :D
[05:21] <Lam_> ArrenLex, lol thanks
[05:22] <five_linux> ok... lets say i'm booting my system, and apparently hdb1 has some fs errors, but its locking up while checking the drive.... is there a way to just check the drive in the background and keep booting?
[05:23] <Josh43> five_linux, you can CTRL-C it, then check it again once you are booted
[05:23] <holycow> siriusnova, no geologic activity has been detected
[05:23] <holycow> no one knows yet
[05:23] <ArrenLex> five_linux: no, because you cannot have the filesystem write-mounted if you're fscking it.
[05:23] <Josh43> five_linux, I ran into that same problem, but doing esc (to cancel the graphc boot loader), then ctrl-c to cancel the scan
[05:23] <ArrenLex> five_linux: you can, of course, cancel the scan, as others have suggested.
[05:24] <PauloFurquim> Hello everbody..Good evening
[05:24] <ArrenLex> !hi
[05:24] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:24] <siriusnova> holycow - is there a link to any place that has live siesmic activity feeds?
[05:24] <bruenig> lol, there is a !hi factoid
[05:25] <holycow> siriusnova, not sure, us geologic survey might?
[05:25] <five_linux> dangit waht the heck
[05:26] <YBH_1> anyon eknow why fetchmail is silent when retrieving email on th ecommandline I tried fetchmail -vv which just showed a liost of UIDL's but not stating what email is being retreived.
[05:26] <five_linux> can't esc from graphic bootloader...  when it starts checking the drive tho it drops to console view, except I can't seem to ctrl-c the fsck process
[05:26] <YouCeyE> i am behind a router and no-ip client does not get wan ip.. it is getting 192.168.0.x address.. how can i fix this?
[05:26] <Josh43> YouCeyE, the linux client, I assume?
[05:26] <YouCeyE> yes
[05:27] <kitche> YouCeyE: it will get your local address but it sends gets the wan address also
[05:27] <Josh43> YouCeyE, Official one? cause I know there is a setting in the windows version to query for the ip externally
[05:27] <YouCeyE> how?
[05:27] <YouCeyE> its the same case with dyndns client
[05:28] <YouCeyE> kitche, how to force it to get wan address
[05:28] <kitche> YouCeyE: it grabs it automaticlly but set up port forwarding
[05:28] <YouCeyE> what port? kitche
[05:29] <TheMoebius> if I have an rpm for a package how should I convert that to a .deb to install in ubuntu?
[05:29] <kitche> YouCeyE: the port that the client uses
[05:29] <kitche> TheMoebius: use alien
[05:30] <darkaura> how would I enable a disk to wrote to if root mounts the disk
[05:30] <loper06> can i use vmware w/ the ex2 ifs plugin for windows?
[05:30] <holycow> yes butyour windows gueswt won't be able to see your hd
[05:30] <hoodlum_> hi, erm. my inet times out frequently, like every few minutes then starts working again, im kinda confused to as why its doing this, im guessing it may be a route issue
[05:30] <holycow> you still haveto setup file sharing via vmware gui dealier which basically shares a local folder via samba anyway
[05:30] <Arafangion> hoodlum_: It could be /anything/
[05:31] <holycow> so its a pointless idea
[05:31] <hoodlum_> heh.. yer
[05:31] <hoodlum_> i figured
[05:31] <hoodlum_> but like, its frustrating
[05:31] <hoodlum_> doesnt time out in windows on my laptop
[05:31] <hoodlum_> but for some reason, on my desktop it likes to do so
[05:31] <loper06> holycow: so the only way to transfer files with vmware is to use samba?
[05:31] <Josh43> loper06, Yes
[05:32] <Arafangion> loper06: It's the best way.
[05:32] <Arafangion> loper06: There's other ways, but they're extremely convoluted.
[05:32] <ixian> someone here mentioned earlier a program that makes uninstalling programs that were compiled from source easier/less messy.. does anyone know what it it called?
[05:32] <Josh43> loper06, And potentially damaging
[05:32] <bioticpro> How can I enter interactive boot setup in Ubuntu?  (tried hitting "I" , didn't work)
[05:32] <loper06> err. sorta stupid.
[05:32] <kitche> ixian: checkinstall
[05:32] <ixian> yeah thats the one..
[05:32] <loper06> but u cant get everything
[05:32] <holycow> loper06, its just that why would you even ask?
[05:32] <ixian> thanks
[05:32] <holycow> it is a trully stupid question
[05:33] <holycow> because vmware actually gives you a transparent gui to set up file transfers
[05:33] <ixian> !checkinstall
[05:33] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page. - DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[05:33] <holycow> loper06, lol i just read what i wrote, i don't mean to sound like a jerk
[05:33] <holycow> :)
[05:33] <holycow> hehe
[05:33] <holycow> sorry
[05:33] <loper06> heh. np.
[05:34] <loper06> imo i like instant feedback
[05:34] <loper06> rather than wait 5 mins and get feedback
[05:35] <holycow> loper06, think of it this way, vmware gives you a convenient transfer mechanism ... once you have your guest os installed you can do whatever that guest os lets you
[05:37] <five_linux> uuuuuuuggggghhh
[05:37] <five_linux> tons of I/O errors on this drive...
[05:37] <freemind> see whos there
[05:37] <freemind> holycow
[05:37] <freemind> how are you mate
[05:38] <holycow> >_>
[05:38] <holycow> cool,  you?
[05:38] <freemind> me2 :) how u doin
[05:38] <macographer> can anyone tell me where libpcre3 is usually installed? i can't seem to find it with locate, and i need to tell nginx where it's located.
[05:39] <Dyegov> Hi, I need help, I can't play any MP3 file in Ubuntu, it just doesn't recognize it, and also I can see youtube videos but they don't have sound, and I think it's due to the same problem T_T
[05:39] <jmerlin> anyone know why my dvd won't play on my ubuntu?
[05:39] <holycow> !dvd
[05:39] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:39] <holycow> !mp3
[05:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:39] <holycow> !flash
[05:39] <holycow> !sound
[05:39] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[05:40] <jmerlin> i've already got the css and gone over the stuff on help.ubuntu.com
[05:40] <jmerlin> i'm not some moron who installed linux and doesn't rtfm.
[05:40] <jmerlin> i put in my dvd
[05:40] <jmerlin> and it can't even mount it
[05:40] <jmerlin> the filesystem says no files exist on the dvd
[05:40] <Dyegov> My PC plays sounds, I'm listening to a CD right now, but it jusnt won't play any MP3 file
[05:40] <jmerlin> i put in a cd and it reads the contents just fine.
[05:40] <holycow> jmerlin, let me guess, you are using edgy?
[05:40] <jmerlin> edgy?
[05:41] <Dyegov> what can I do?
[05:41] <holycow> Dyegov, read the  mp3 stuff i postd up there
[05:41] <holycow> you need the right plugins
[05:41] <freemind> esgy is the actual unstable release, Dyegov
[05:41] <freemind> *edgy
[05:41] <holycow> jmerlin, so you want to actually mount the dvd and browse it instead of play the dvd?
[05:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !libdvdcss
[05:42] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:42] <jmerlin> i want to play it
[05:42] <jmerlin> but how can you read the files if it's not mounted?
[05:42] <holycow> make sure you read jacks info too
[05:42] <jmerlin> xine freezes up when i try to play 'dvd'
[05:42] <Dyegov> what did you posted holycow?
[05:42] <holycow> jmerlin, because it just reqads the data stream from the drive directly
[05:42] <holycow> !mp3
[05:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:42] <Josh43> jmerlin, Try another DVD - these days they are tossing random garbage in some dvds as copy protection
[05:43] <PauloFurquim> anybody know how to write web pages whith PHP scripts?
[05:43] <Dyegov> I'll see that, thanks holycow
[05:43] <jmerlin> "copy protection".. some people don't have working dvd players hooked up to their TV, we have "DVD Drives" and DVD playback software
[05:43] <holycow> PauloFurquim, people in #php do
[05:43] <Josh43> jmerlin, TRUST Me; been there, had that argument
[05:43] <jmerlin> i mean.. my PC monitor is bigger than my TV montior.. and it's got a much higher resolution so why the hell would i watch DVDs on my tv?? -_-
[05:43] <PauloFurquim> Thanks holycow
[05:43] <jmerlin> stupid fucking companies
[05:44] <holycow> no worries
[05:44] <erickm> can someone help me run a game?
[05:44] <holycow> jmerlin, its a scame
[05:44] <yarddog> !language
[05:44] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:44] <azureal> for every company, there is an anticompany
[05:44] <jmerlin> it would be nice to ddos them until they stop being so gay.  if people are going to pirate, they're going to pirate.. fucking hell, you can't stop them
[05:44] <holycow> they get paid by the producers for licences to the dvd encryption technology
[05:44] <jmerlin> you can't stop them unless you send out a marine with every DVD you sell.
[05:44] <Josh43> jmerlin, I have an origional xbox with playback software, and it even cacks on some DVDs
[05:44] <holycow> they get paid by the producers of the players which must by licences to play the dvds
[05:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !language > jmerlin
[05:44] <holycow> its a giant scam
[05:45] <jmerlin> when it becomes easier and faster to download a dvd and watch it..
[05:45] <jmerlin> than to insert this dvd i got in the mail
[05:45] <jmerlin> into my computer and watch it
[05:45] <jmerlin> like hell if i'm going to buy any more dvds.
[05:45] <wilssgrant> Question: I am getting a message "Are you sure you want to build without GTK?" when compiling mplayer plug-in for opera. Do I need to install some kind of "Gtk Libs" to do this compile correctly?
[05:45] <jmerlin> that DVD mounted fine
[05:45] <jmerlin> the other one didn't
[05:46] <Clarrisa> does anyone know where the commands in the #ubuntu keyboard buffer are stored?  I'd like to dump everything I've typed at the commandline tonight out to a file, or, if it's in a file already, would like to back it up somewhere
[05:47] <MrKeuner> hi, what's the best way to use for ubuntu macosx networking regarding file sharing?
[05:47] <Josh43> "How do I get this DVD/CD I bought on to my computer? What software do I need?"  "We have this great analog to digital transfer software, very easy: you enter in the name of your DVD, and 'torrent'" - transfers very quickly"
[05:47] <Josh43> MrKeuner, Samba on both ends
[05:48] <wilssgrant> Basically my question is this: What do I need to download in synaptic to be able to compile a GTK application
[05:48] <MrKeuner> Josh43/ is it safe?
[05:48] <MrKeuner> Josh43/ those are laptops
[05:48] <Dagny> Hi
[05:48] <Josh43> MrKeuner, Define safe; is it a home network? is it a wireless system?
[05:48] <evn> can someone suggest a way to force restart remotely when the root filesystem is borked? i can log in as root via ssh but sftp doesn't work so i can't put a copy of halt in /boot
[05:49] <evn> changing the runlevel does nothing
[05:49] <MrKeuner> Josh43/ those are laptops and are connected to several networks in the daytime
[05:49] <Dagny> Hello.  I'm a Linux noobie, but need to become proficient at Linux for vocational reasons.  Would Ubuntu be a good program to learn Linux with?
[05:49] <macographer> it looks to me like i already have libpcre3 installed, but i'm trying to install nginx (server software) and it can't seem to find it. it has a configuration option to tell it where the lib is located, but i don't know what to tell it. can anyone tell me where the default location is?
[05:49] <Josh43> MrKeuner, Well, unlike windows: Samba on OSX and linux is fairly safe; you can set user level permissions, etc
[05:49] <erickm> can someone help with a game running issue?
[05:50] <Josh43> MrKeuner, If you /really/ want to be safe; look up sharing both ways with 'sshfs'
[05:50] <Squatch> !smb
[05:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:50] <MrKeuner> Josh43/ I would be afraid if people gain access to not shared places thorough samba
[05:50] <DarkMageZ> Dagny, ubuntu would be a good linux distro to start off with. but sbcglobal has banned their users from using it
[05:50] <Josh43> MrKeuner, Set up right; those people would have to brute-force the username and password
[05:51] <Dagny> Really ?
[05:51] <Dagny> I wonder why.
[05:51] <Dagny> Is that just for Ubuntu or all Linux distros?
[05:51] <DarkMageZ> Dagny, all linux. just don't mension you're using linux and you're fine :P
[05:51] <Josh43> MrKeuner, Plus, you only give access to the folders you explicitly share: System > Administration > SHared Folders
[05:51] <Dagny> No prob.  My  main rig is Win XP anyway.
[05:51] <holycow> Dagny, vocational reasons? heh
[05:51] <holycow> neat
[05:52] <holycow> care to explain?
[05:52] <holycow> :)
[05:52] <Dagny> I just need to take my old P3 533 and turn it into a Linux box.
[05:52] <holycow> Dagny, pick any distro it doesn't matter
[05:52] <Dagny> Family connection type of hire.
[05:52] <MrKeuner> Josh43/ OK I'll do your advice. Thank you very much
[05:52] <holycow> Dagny, you want to start with maybe ubuntu first, then learn debian which is nearly identical, then try all the other ones
[05:52] <holycow> you need to understand the general concepts as well as distribution specifics
[05:52] <Dagny> I figure I'll be doing lots of installs and uninstalls.
[05:53] <Dagny> Would a 3.2 Gb hd be sufficient?  What's the difference between Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Xubuntu?  (Hard to tell from the main webpage.)
[05:54] <Josh43> Dagny, When you get serious enough: Try Gentoo from Stage 1: it's a huge learning experience, and you walk away after a couple days with a fairly good understanding of the inner workings
[05:54] <jmerlin> DarkMageZ, are they allowed to do that?
[05:54] <jmerlin> i'm quite sure it's illegal to force your customers to use an operating system
[05:54] <kitche> Josh43: to bad stage1 is no longer supported for Gentoo
[05:54] <jmerlin> or .. not
[05:54] <jmerlin> "you can't go to this school unless your parents live in a 2 story 1 million dollar house and you drive a $40,000 car minimum
[05:54] <Josh43> jmerlin, They are service provider: they can make any rule they want as long as people go along with it
[05:54] <jmerlin> sue sbcglobal if that's true.
[05:54] <Dagny> Thanks for the advice, JMerlin.
[05:55] <wilssgrant> Guys, I am trying to ./configure source of a program and it keeps telling me "ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO BUILD WITHOUT GTK? BECAUSE mplayerplug-in WITHOUT GTK TAKES AWAY FUNCTIONALITY"  Any ideas how to get it to build with gtk then?
[05:55] <DarkMageZ> jmerlin, don't ask me about american law...
[05:55] <Josh43> kitche, Really? 2 and up? why?
[05:55] <jmerlin> i'm quite certain they don't prohibit linux
[05:55] <kitche> Josh43: They onyl support stage3 now
[05:55] <Dagny> Er, Thanks Josh.
[05:55] <jmerlin> it's more secure than windows and it has a less cluttered tcp/ip stack so it's much more efficient on bandwidth..
[05:56] <DarkMageZ> jmerlin, but it's a known fact that if you even mension linux to the tech support... they tell you "it's a hacker os" and they threaten to disconnect you
[05:56] <jmerlin> i'd figure they would promote linux lol
[05:56] <keleus> how does one go about checking a file with a .DIGESTS file?
[05:56] <keleus> md5sum doesnt like it
[05:56] <wilssgrant> Anyone able to help with my problem?
[05:56] <evn> or mine?
[05:56] <holycow> jmerlin, the biggest advantage imho is freedom.  no one can take it away from you.
[05:56] <DarkMageZ> jmerlin, this was their policy 2 years ago... i don't know if it has changed since
[05:57] <holycow> and it will live as long as its users decide to keep it alive
[05:57] <bioticpro> I am having problems booting, stops while trying to load a driver, what should I append to bootloader line to allow interactive boot, or to get to a shell?
[05:57] <Josh43> wilssgrant, Look through synaptic for gtk dev, and install any dev package you run across
[05:57] <MrKeuner> oops, help E: samba: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 102
[05:57] <wickedpuppy> wilssgrant, first what is the program ..second have you search it in the repos .. third have you read README or INSTALL ?
[05:57] <keleus> DarkMageZ, funny thing is, at the office i work half the desk does java, linux, etc
[05:57] <macographer> can anyone suggest a method for me to find where a library is located?
[05:57] <jmerlin> linux isn't a hacker OS.. i could hack just as well on windows as i could on linux -_-
[05:57] <Dagny> Thanks a lot, everyone.  I'm going to take my old rig and see if I can get Ubuntu up and running.
[05:57] <wickedpuppy> macographer, usually in /usr/lib .. why not just tell us the library ?
[05:58] <Josh43> jmerlin, better, in some cases
[05:58] <DarkMageZ> jmerlin, please tell sbcglobal that... make them listen
[05:58] <Josh43> Dagny, HAVE FUN!
[05:58] <macographer> wickedpuppy: well, i have, actually. this is the first time i got a response lol.
[05:58] <DarkMageZ> keleus, yeah, the only way sbcglobal ever finds out is if you tell them :P
[05:58] <macographer> wickedpuppy: i'm looking for the libpcre3
[05:58] <wilssgrant> wickedpuppy: program is mplayerplug-in, I am compiling it for use with opera, yes I have searched the repos but im not sure what exactly I should install in the repos to solve this
[05:58] <jmerlin> Dagny, if they say anything about you running linux on that machine.. tell them they can pay for your windows XP Professional and all the accompanying software if they want you to use it
[05:58] <wickedpuppy> macographer, try this sudo find / -name "*libpcre3*" -print
[05:59] <wickedpuppy> wilssgrant, mozilla-mplayer - MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla
[05:59] <wickedpuppy> get this
[05:59] <macographer> wickedpuppy: ah. thanks.
[05:59] <xUnaBx> hello
[05:59] <darkaura> holycow maybe you can help me
[05:59] <wickedpuppy> macographer, np
[05:59] <wilssgrant> wickedpuppy: I am building this for opera not mozilla
[05:59] <Josh43> wilssgrant, the -dev packages contain all the code that apps use to compile.. it's just a matter of grabbing the right one (though installing more than you need makes zero impact, except in HD space)
[05:59] <keleus> soo.... nobody has ever worked with a .DIGESTS file?
[05:59] <wickedpuppy> LOL pardon me
[06:00] <keleus> i would like to make sure that 1.2gb download wasn't a waste of time
[06:00] <holycow> dark, with what?
[06:00] <jmerlin> and i would highly suggest learning the gcc commandline very well
[06:00] <wilssgrant> Josh43: thats what I'm trying to ask, which -dev packages should I install to make this work
[06:00] <jmerlin> most IDE's i've tried for linux produce so much bloat it scares me
[06:00] <Josh43> wilssgrant, Since I'm not sure, my vote is anything with 'gtk' and 'dev' in the name
[06:01] <darkaura> okay I tried formating my mp3 player yesterday bad idea now it doesn't work is there a program for linux that I can reformat my mp3 player so it works its a Curtis 256 meg mp3 player
[06:01] <wickedpuppy> wilssgrant, i can't find it on repo ... well then can't help ya there .. i don't use opera
[06:01] <bruenig> darkaura, you installed new firmware or what?
[06:01] <darkaura> no new firmware installed
[06:01] <MrKeuner> invoke-rc.d: dangling symlink: /etc/rc2.d/k09samba what does this mean?
[06:01] <holycow> darkaura, formatting the storage aread wouldn't really do anything unless its in a file system it doesn't understand
[06:02] <bruenig> darkaura, what did you do in "formatting" t
[06:02] <holycow> you would use the same method for formatting it, you just haveto research what file system it expects
[06:02] <bruenig> it
[06:02] <jmerlin> anything interesting on slashdot today?
[06:02] <wilssgrant> Josh43: the readme says it requires GTK2 development package which I have installed
[06:02] <bruenig> !offtopic
[06:02] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:02] <keleus> !digests
[06:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about digests - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:02] <keleus> arg why does nobody want to tell me what do do with this thing?
[06:02] <Lam_> !dvd
[06:02] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:03] <keleus> i have a has hand i have NO WAY to tell how to use it
[06:03] <tritium> keleus: use what?
[06:03] <keleus> a .DIGESTS file
[06:03] <keleus> it has some kind of ssh1 and md5 sum
[06:03] <keleus> but i cant get openssl OR md5sum to work with it
[06:03] <str8edge> is this for dapper only or edgy issues too?
[06:03] <wickedpuppy> keleus, if nobody is helping ya then try goggle ...
[06:03] <darkaura> okay I think its fat12 that my mp3 player uses
[06:03] <tritium> str8edge: dapper
[06:03] <jmerlin> hey holycow, do you know any good sites to learn the linux kernel from early versions all the way up to 2.6.18 with information and cross-referencing?
[06:03] <xUnaBx> hello, i'm running dsl on a libretto c70, and i'm on my way to buy a wifi card for it (pcmcia or usb). What brand/model shall i opt for ?
[06:03] <str8edge> is there a channel for edgy?
[06:03] <keleus> wickedpuppy, i tried, but google keeps stripping out the period
[06:04] <keleus> and i keep getting crap about magazines
[06:04] <xUnaBx> oops
[06:04] <tritium> str8edge: #ubuntu+1
[06:04] <bruenig> #ubuntu+1
[06:04] <xUnaBx> wrong chan
[06:04] <bioticpro> Can anybody please help?  I can no longer get ubuntu to boot completely, it stops while trying to load firmware for a TVCard, and won't continue.
[06:04] <rbd> hey guys, I'm running 6.06 and having problems installing asterisk-classic ... says that libgsm and libspeex are broken (they don't even show up in my list of packages via dselect, and yes I've done a apt-get update... do I need to enable software from backports, or grab multiverse ? (coming from debian so I'm not totally sure how ubuntu orders its stuff yet)
[06:04] <holycow> jmerlin, no one would bother with such a thing.  you will haveto dig up all that stuff manually
[06:04] <Josh43> wilssgrant, Keep in mind that sometimes ubuntu names packages a little different; I ran into the same issue once.. not sure what package it was, but it wasn't in the readme... if it tells you what file is mission, you can find what package exactly contains it
[06:04] <jmerlin> =(
[06:04] <jmerlin> it would be very nice of someone to do lol
[06:04] <wickedpuppy> keleus, btw what do you want to do with that file ? actually what is the problem ?
[06:05] <keleus> i want to verify the hash
[06:05] <bronaugh> guys, I just installed ubuntu 6.06/amd64 on a new machine; Radeon 7000 AGP video card. when I move the mouse the system crashes.
[06:05] <harrism> hello everyone, almost every game I find will not run because I have an amd64 chip. Does anyone know where I can find some good games?
[06:05] <keleus> i just downloaded a liveDVD and i want to check the hash before sending it over SMB to the computer that has a dvd burner
[06:05] <wickedpuppy> keleus, and how did you search on the google ? the search phrase was ??
[06:05] <bruenig> harrism, did you install the 64 bit version?
[06:05] <jmerlin> http://lxr.linux.no/source/?v=1.0.9
[06:05] <jmerlin> that's cool but it only has a few versions
[06:05] <KEA0463> hello
[06:06] <jmerlin> i want it from 0.0.1 to 2.6.18 =(
[06:06] <keleus> ".digests" file verify
[06:06] <KEA0463> i got a question about ubuntu
[06:06] <keleus> KEA0463, we got answers
[06:06] <KEA0463> ok
[06:06] <bruenig> this is no room for ubuntu questions
[06:06] <Dagny> I have a 160 GB hard drive that's already partioned into four partitions, would it be possible to simply install into one of those partitions without losing the Win 98 install in the other partition?
[06:06] <wickedpuppy> keleus, have you try putting .digest behind ? like verify .digest file ?
[06:06] <harrism> that is just the thing, I cannnot find 64 bit versions. :/
[06:06] <bronaugh> I'd love some answers.
[06:06] <harrism> the only games I have are what is in my repos
[06:06] <kane_> Hi i have a package that i wish to remove but apt-get wishes to remove all of XORG and ubuntu-desktop to do so.   It is not a package that should have this requirement.  Its just the nvidia-beta drivers.
[06:06] <KEA0463> um how do i make my terminal see through without windows
[06:06] <kane_> is there a force remove option somehow?
[06:06] <bruenig> harrism, no the ubuntu version that you did install, was it the 64 bit or the 32 bit?
[06:06] <harrism> all the deb packages are for i386 and forcing the install does not work
[06:07] <harrism> oh sorry, ubuntu 64 bit with an amd 64 bit
[06:07] <bruenig> harrism, must be 64, you should install the 32 bit version
[06:07] <keleus> why will google not accept the period?
[06:07] <keleus> even in quotes it strips it out
[06:07] <wilssgrant> Josh43: Is there a generic file that is needed to compile GTK applications because I don't see anything that I need to install
[06:07] <harrism> really? :/ so not many games for me
[06:08] <wickedpuppy> keleus, that i do not know but i suppose you can go mad over it or go around that by putting .digest behind ... your choice really ..
[06:08] <keleus> is there a %## code for a period?
[06:08] <KEA0463> how do i make my terminal see through without windows
[06:08] <keleus> i tried putting it behind
[06:08] <keleus> no change
[06:08] <keleus> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=verify+%22.digests%22+file&btnG=Google+Search
[06:08] <keleus> and look at the results
[06:08] <bruenig> keleus, the magic of wikipedia should inform http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MD5#Applications
[06:08] <harrism> bruenig, do you know of any rpgs that I can run? I like nethack but was looking for something like diablo
[06:08] <KEA0463>  how do i make my terminal see through without windows
[06:09] <bruenig> harrism, not big into the games but I can tell you that unless you go with the 32 bit, you aren't going to find much
[06:09] <harrism> ok, thanks
[06:09] <wickedpuppy> keleus, try this "md5 .digest verify"
[06:09] <KEA0463>  how do i make my terminal see through without windows
[06:09] <bruenig> KEA0463, without windows?
[06:09] <bronaugh> it doesn't crash when I use the onboard video
[06:09] <KEA0463> yeah you know the command line
[06:09] <bruenig> what is windows?
[06:10] <keleus> bruenig, er... spurious link? (totally unrelated info)
[06:10] <KEA0463> can i make it so its see through
[06:10] <wickedpuppy> KEA0463, transparent terminal background ?
[06:10] <bruenig> well you said you didn't know what it was
[06:10] <KEA0463> yeah thats what i meant
[06:10] <kitche> KEA0463: umm no sicne it will be just black but you can make it have a background
[06:10] <keleus> wickedpuppy, that wont work, it will look for the whole phrase.
[06:10] <KEA0463> how?
[06:10] <keleus> aah oh well. im sure it downloaded fine
[06:10] <jmerlin> any linux devs in the house? =>
[06:11] <wickedpuppy> KEA0463, go to edit -> current profile -> effect
[06:11] <Se7h> could some one help me on the webcam spca5 driver? (edgy)
[06:11] <bronaugh> jmerlin: yeah, but right now I'm more like a linux murderer.
[06:11] <jmerlin> how so?
[06:11] <Se7h> bronaugh rof
[06:11] <keleus> i would think it would be more common knowledge, i see these files all over mirrors
[06:11] <keleus> or does everyone just ignore em :)
[06:11] <wickedpuppy> keleus, i suppose i am not part of everyone ...
[06:12] <bronaugh> jmerlin: just installed ubuntu; threw my Radeon 7000 in there to replace the Via onboard; and now if there's sufficient graphics activity while the mouse moves the system wedges solid.
[06:12] <KEA0463> ok i got it
[06:12] <jmerlin> my system is locking up once in a while too
[06:12] <jmerlin> radeon 9700 pro
[06:13] <KEA0463> now how do i erase the tile arou nd it
[06:13] <kitche> jmerlin: have you installed any packages lately?
[06:13] <bronaugh> nice. which little ubuntu rat borked the Radeon driver.
[06:13] <wickedpuppy> keleus, i can find out md5 checksum but not digest
[06:14] <keleus> wickedpuppy, im pastebinning the DIGESTS file, maybe you would recognize it?
[06:14] <jmerlin> many.
[06:14] <wilssgrant> Josh43: You there?
[06:14] <wickedpuppy> maybe ... try
[06:14] <kane_> Hi i have a package that i wish to remove but apt-get wishes to remove all of XORG and ubuntu-desktop to do so.   It is not a package that should have this requirement.  Its just the nvidia-beta drivers.
[06:14] <ryan__> has anyone had any trubble with firefox randomly quitting
[06:14] <darkaura> are there any generic mp3player utilities out there that could possibly help me
[06:15] <holycow> ryan__, depends on the plugins and extensions you have installed
[06:15] <wickedpuppy> kane_, if you do not tell us the package name ... how do you think we can help ya ?
[06:15] <holycow> a lot of times you remove all extensions and its back to normal
[06:15] <wickedpuppy> ...
[06:15] <bronaugh> awesome.
[06:15] <bronaugh> who's fahmi-lonly
[06:15] <silvertip257> hello sethk, are you at your keyboard ?
[06:15] <Lam_> if i have VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS folders on my desktop, can i just burn them to a Data DVD using GnomeBaker and have it work on my DVD player?
[06:15] <keleus> forgive the spam, pastebin broke...
[06:15] <keleus> # MD5 HASH
[06:15] <keleus> 97459098b26e1b79ffb1d36f71f29197 livedvd-i686-installer-2006.1.iso
[06:15] <keleus> # SHA1 HASH
[06:15] <keleus> 386e68e235c3515df02310161dafec53a3ff28fd livedvd-i686-installer-2006.1.iso
[06:15] <bronaugh> and which client was that that is overflowed by that request?
[06:15] <kitche> an idiot that taking advantage of exploitable routers
[06:16] <deceptacon> hey stop sending me crap
[06:16] <deceptacon> fahmi-lonly
[06:16] <tritium> keleus: stop pasting please
[06:16] <wickedpuppy> keleus, do this md5sum filename
[06:16] <kitche> bronaugh: it's the people's routers
[06:16] <keleus> tritium, pastebin gave me a database error, what choice did i have?
[06:16] <bronaugh> kitche: uhh. wouldn't the router have to be doing layer 7 crap to be affected?
[06:16] <keleus> wickedpuppy, did that. didn't work
[06:16] <tritium> keleus: another pastebin, or #flood
[06:16] <wickedpuppy> keleus, are you registered ? then pm me
[06:17] <kitche> bronaugh: umm it's has to do with the packet quality option in the routers
[06:17] <bronaugh> packet quality? you mean QoS?
[06:17] <macographer> does anyone have any experience with the server software nginx?
[06:17] <bronaugh> because a DCC send request with a long length isn't going to cause that to wedge.
[06:18] <kitche> bronaugh: it tries to open a port that it can't
[06:18] <bronaugh> fun.
[06:18] <bronaugh> so the content of the request doesn't matter eh? just the source and dest ports?
[06:18] <kitche> bronaugh: as long as it's a long string
[06:19] <RealFG> Hello all. I'm trying to get setup with audacity and I can't seem to find where to set the Input source to be the line in on my sound card. Any thoughts?
[06:19] <ryan__> my firefox keeps crashing any idea why or how to fix
[06:19] <bronaugh> kitche: causing the packet to fragment?
[06:19] <holycow> ryan__, i just told you
[06:19] <holycow> please read goddammit
[06:19] <kitche> bronaugh: yeah but it's sorta like the router DDOS's itself
[06:19] <jmerlin> bronaugh, you a part of any linux dev projects right now?
[06:19] <RyEINic> ryan__, i had to uninstall my extensions to get ff working again
[06:19] <ryan__> oh inm forry...i must have missed it
[06:20] <KEA0463> there i made the text on my terminal bright green
[06:20] <bronaugh> jmerlin: not really active, though I've contributed to rewind, ltsp, and a few others.
[06:20] <KEA0463> with a brown background
[06:20] <kitche> ryan__: most likely it is the extensiosn that you have installed but it's segfaulting which can be caused by many things
[06:21] <jmerlin> myself and a few buddies are starting up a dx library for linux.. which can be compiled against using the directx headers used to write dx apps on windows
[06:21] <jmerlin> if you want to join in you're welcome to =)
[06:21] <RealFG> What would /dev/dsp  be?
[06:21] <bronaugh> jmerlin: why not start with the WINE code?
[06:22] <holycow> jmerlin, wtf would you do something like that?
[06:22] <holycow> your just doing the work for ms
[06:22] <holycow> for free
[06:22] <ryan__> the only extension i have is the english language pack
[06:22] <kitche> RealFG: it's what OSS uses to output sound Alsa uses /dev/asound or /dev/snd/asound
[06:22] <RealFG> kitche: Hmm. Thanks.
[06:23] <kitche> RealFG: OSS stands for Open Sound System in that context
[06:23] <bronaugh> oh, lovely. I just made ubuntu crash again.
[06:23] <bronaugh> that was easy.
[06:23] <holycow> bronaugh, ubuntu doesnt' cras, components crash
[06:23] <holycow> identify the component and fix it
[06:23] <bronaugh> holycow: I can't ping the machine now.
[06:24] <brendonjt> hi all  it has been a while since i have been in here how is everyone?
[06:24] <bronaugh> holycow: ubuntu, as a whole, crashed.
[06:24] <KEA0463> my laptop runs great with ubuntu
[06:24] <bronaugh> holycow: not even a kernel oops.
[06:24] <holycow> not possible, ubuntu as a whole doesn't exist
[06:24] <RealFG> kitche: Ah. I'm trying to set Audacity to record and /dev/dsp is the only option. But I can't seem to chose the line in for recording.
[06:24] <KEA0463> better the xp
[06:24] <holycow> if you crashed the kernel then th ekernel crashed
[06:24] <macographer> nginx?
[06:24] <bronaugh> KEA0463: no, actually, XP would be more stable than this.
[06:24] <bronaugh> when I move the mouse when there's some graphics activity going on, the machine crashes and can't be pinged anymore.
[06:24] <dragonriot> bronaugh... then go back to XP and quit your bitchin...
[06:24] <kitche> the kernel is linux that's the only thing that is linux actually :)
[06:25] <holycow> bronaugh, your graphics driver is crashing
[06:25] <holycow> bronaugh, why not fix that?
[06:25] <bronaugh> dragonriot: no, I'll go back to Debian, thank you very much.
[06:25] <jmerlin_> sorry, system locked up =(
[06:25] <brendonjt> holycow: i agree  with you there  with that
[06:25] <KEA0463> i thought ubuntu us debian
[06:25] <holycow> ubuntu isn't crashing, your doing something dumb basically, pro bably running unsupported drivers on an unsupported video card
[06:25] <bronaugh> holycow: if Xorg were crashing, I'd still be able to ping the machine.
[06:26] <jmerlin_> we're not gonna use wine's stuff because it's going to be a high-efficiency implementation.. so people can basically compile their dx apps on windows for linux to run natively
[06:26] <holycow> bronaugh, not necessarily but anywhoo :)
[06:26] <bronaugh> holycow: Radeon 7000, stock Ubuntu. just installed.
[06:26] <jmerlin_> the d3d will basically be mapped to opengl calls.. for now anyway
[06:26] <bronaugh> holycow: that's pretty vanilla.
[06:26] <holycow> if your going back to debian, ehe i think that great at least you are using the good stuff :)
[06:26] <kitche> jmerlin_: umm that's like that one project that is trying to make it so exe work in linux but natively
[06:26] <holycow> however you are saying some rather dumb things, if you are using debian  you should know that a distro doesn't crash, there is no such thing as a whole
[06:26] <jmerlin_> we don't want an exe to run natively
[06:26] <KEA0463> whats the best linux version in the world?
[06:27] <wickedpuppy> KEA0463, freebsd
[06:27] <jmerlin_> we just want to be able to compile a dx app with gcc on a linux machine and run it natively =)
[06:27] <jmerlin_> without needing wine or any messy crap
[06:27] <holycow> jmerlin, why?
[06:27] <kitche> wickedpuppy ? lo.
[06:27] <KEA0463> how do i get freebsd
[06:27] <holycow> jmerlin, why would you work for the devil?
[06:27] <jmerlin_> just 1 lib, idx  indirectx
[06:28] <KEA0463> i couldnt ubderstand how to install freebsd
[06:28] <jmerlin_> when we can show ati/nvidia/whoever else that with that lib running d3d through opengl that all dx code can now run natively on linux
[06:28] <jmerlin_> we might be able to inspire them to release full blown drivers for *nix.. including the d3d support
[06:28] <jmerlin_> then we could modify the lib to call into driver d3d implementations directly if available =)
[06:28] <wickedpuppy> KEA0463, its the best out there ... the rest are way way behind it :P
[06:29] <jmerlin_> make it just as, if not more, efficient than on windows
[06:29] <KEA0463> can u tell me how to download it and install it wicked puppy?
[06:29] <holycow> jmerlin, but why?
[06:29] <wickedpuppy> KEA0463, www.freebsd.org but i cant help ya here .. ask in #freebsd .. or pls read the documentation
[06:29] <jmerlin_> i just said why
[06:29] <holycow> jmerlin, why would you want patent encumbered, evil business model to be even ported here?
[06:30] <holycow> thats not why
[06:30] <holycow> thats just blindly stupid
[06:30] <jmerlin_> why?
[06:30] <jmerlin_> it may be done by microsoft, i'm not saying it's not shit
[06:30] <holycow> because there is no reason then to code natively for linux
[06:30] <KEA0463> ok thanks
[06:30] <holycow> then everyone will just code for windows and cross compile to run here
[06:30] <jmerlin_> not really
[06:30] <holycow> yes really
[06:30] <jmerlin_> if just dx can now run natively on linux, none of win32 shit api will work on linux
[06:31] <dan2> are there any bugs with /etc/lsb-base-log or whatever it's called
[06:31] <jmerlin_> so it's not going to be write on windows then compile on linux
[06:31] <KEA0463> wicked puppy i thought your favorite linux would be puppy-linux  haha
[06:31] <wickedpuppy> oh boy
[06:31] <holycow> jmerlin, for the stuff you guys want it will
[06:31] <jmerlin_> but most major companies are coding games via directx and they don't have the resources to port it to opengl/linux
[06:31] <dan2> is there a quick system recovery live cd that has xfs tools on it?
[06:31] <wickedpuppy> eh keleus pls .. no need to make me cry .. lol
[06:31] <jmerlin_> sure wine can run games.. and cedega.. but they suck ass at doing so
[06:31] <holycow> jmerlin, a smarter approach is to keep on increasing the linux market share and convince companies that there is money here
[06:32] <host`> ya'll ever heard of anyone else experiencing problems with 'ifconfig' freezing their machine up?
[06:32] <jmerlin_> the reason they code for windows is because of directx
[06:32] <keleus> jmerlin_, i say we all donate to a lawyer team to get directX GPLed. damn code-grubbing jerks
[06:32] <KEA0463> i cant get wine to work
[06:32] <holycow> jmerlin, porting directx here is just a shit idea
[06:32] <jmerlin_> because gfx card manufacturers are implementing d3d functionality in their cards
[06:32] <jmerlin_> opengl is less efficient now.
[06:32] <keleus> dx needs to die.
[06:32] <KEA0463> iam to stoopid i geuuss
[06:32] <holycow> jmerlin, if you want to do something usefully take our tools and pull them together to give us what dx gives them
[06:32] <holycow> you can even do it so its better
[06:32] <keleus> jmerlin_ but dont forget DX also has input and such... much more than graphics and sound (if you include openAL)
[06:32] <jmerlin_> i know
[06:33] <jmerlin_> d3d is the hardest one
[06:33] <holycow> jmerlin, well i assure you i won't help
[06:33] <jmerlin_> the input, sound, music, whatever else are much easier
[06:33] <holycow> and i can assure you i will work against your efforts
[06:33] <keleus> all we need is to get people to use openGL2 instead of DX.
[06:33] <KEA0463> what is freeBSD used for?
[06:33] <keleus> KEA0463, same thing any other OS is for.
[06:33] <KEA0463> o ok
[06:33] <rpc> keleus sorry but this is not going to happen mate
[06:33] <hana> hello what do you think about comparing ms qord and open office?
[06:33] <kitche> KEA0463 it's more like Unix instead of like linux
[06:33] <keleus> KEA0463, i like it myself, but i would not recommend it to the non-adventurous sort
[06:34] <jmerlin_> give to us what dx gives to them?
[06:34] <jmerlin_> we can't.
[06:34] <holycow> why not?
[06:34] <rpc> keleus it's like telling everyone to stop using windows, you still believe it would work?
[06:34] <KEA0463> is it harder than gentoo?
[06:34] <hana> ms word and and open office?
[06:34] <jmerlin_> you realize it's STANDARD for video card vendors to implement d3d in their cards on the hardware directly
[06:34] <holycow> you can create a whole company around it
[06:34] <Arafangion> hana: MS Qord?
[06:34] <keleus> KEA0463, no, its just different.
[06:34] <KEA0463> ok
[06:34] <RyEINic> word
[06:34] <jmerlin_> if you make your own new system
[06:34] <hana> ms word and open office
[06:34] <jmerlin_> call it..
[06:34] <keleus> KEA0463, its more departed from the windows world than linux
[06:34] <holycow> jmerlin, dx isn't a standard
[06:34] <hana> which is better
[06:34] <KEA0463> o wow
[06:34] <jmerlin_> ox.. open X.. a complete multimedia package
[06:34] <holycow> its a proprietary implemntation
[06:34] <Arafangion> jmerlin_: Do you realise it's STANDARD for video card venders to implement OpenGL in their cards on the hardware directly?
[06:34] <rpc> holycow ms windows isn't a standard either
[06:34] <KEA0463> i proolly have a hard time then
[06:34] <holycow> dx will never be accessible to us
[06:34] <holycow> ever
[06:35] <holycow> rpc, exactly
[06:35] <Arafangion> jmerlin_: Infact, some cards don't support DX at all - only opengl.
[06:35] <keleus> KEA0463, go to freebsd.org and poke around the docs (handbook especially)
[06:35] <jmerlin_> Arafangion, you realize that there has been no modification to opengl implementations for nearly a decade?
[06:35] <Arafangion> rpc: Windows is it's own standard.
[06:35] <rpc> so is dx
[06:35] <holycow> spending any time porting dx support here is to help evil expand their stranglehold
[06:35] <rpc> and many people follow that and they will
[06:35] <KEA0463> i cant even figure out gentoo
[06:35] <Arafangion> jmerlin_: Haha.
[06:35] <jmerlin_> you realize that with every update of d3d there are considerable updates on new hardware that support those features
[06:35] <holycow> congratulations on helping the empire conquer yet another platform
[06:35] <SuperMiguel> there is any way to install blitz on ubuntu?
[06:35] <jmerlin_> opengl doesn't have new features
[06:35] <jmerlin_> it's the same from when i first started coding
[06:35] <jmerlin_> to now
[06:35] <keleus> KAEthe nice thing about freebsd is the handbook is friggin awsome. i printed it out double-sided and needed a 4-inch binder...
[06:35] <jmerlin_> d3d has gone from d3d2 or whatever the hell was back then to d3d10 soon
[06:36] <jmerlin_> nothing is the same in it
[06:36] <Arafangion> jmerlin_: Obviously, you haven't started with the OpenGL Shader Language, and you haven't looked around too much with the extensions.
[06:36] <holycow> jmerlin, whatever they have is irrelevant
[06:36] <dubidobidoo> elo
[06:36] <holycow> its not open source
[06:36] <holycow> its not free
[06:36] <rpc> i'm absolutely on jmerlin's side
[06:36] <holycow> its not a standard
[06:36] <holycow> its not accessible
[06:36] <keleus> OpenGL 2.0
[06:36] <Arafangion> jmerlin_: OpenGL does what it does very well, and they don't need to change merely for the sake of change.
[06:36] <keleus> is new.
[06:36] <holycow> its patent encumbered
[06:36] <jmerlin_> Arafangion, name a company that writes code using extensions.
[06:36] <jmerlin_> please,
[06:36] <jmerlin_> i know epic doesn't
[06:36] <KEA0463> so freeBSD has more info then other distros
[06:36] <holycow> its controled by a company that has no morals whatsoever
[06:36] <holycow> and you seek to enable their empire access even further
[06:36] <KEA0463> as far as handbooks
[06:36] <Arafangion> jmerlin_: I'm sure many do.
[06:36] <jmerlin_> if you want to code an app to run on 1 card.
[06:36] <jmerlin_> sure
[06:36] <leon> sidd
[06:37] <B_166-ER-X> err:ntdll:MODULE_THREAD_WaitThreadModuleSafe this should never happen. (unless wine crashed)
[06:37] <dubidobidoo> oi
[06:37] <bronaugh> holycow: considering different distributions apply different patches to their software set, if one distribution crashes and another doesn't on the same hardware, I'm going to blame the distribution -- or specifically, the monkeys that allowed in the offending patches.
[06:37] <keleus> KEA0463, not really, its just all in one place.
[06:37] <leon> anu homework?
[06:37] <host`> where would I report a bug?
[06:37] <B_166-ER-X> i just understood why CVS cedega is free.
[06:37] <SuperMiguel> there is any way to install blitz on ubuntu?
[06:37] <Arafangion> jmerlin_: That'd be a pathetic extension indeed.
[06:37] <KEA0463> less questions and more info
[06:37] <holycow> bronaugh, in that case you would fit right in on #windows
[06:37] <minerale> Yay! North Korea now has detonated a nuke...
[06:37] <leon> hi
[06:37] <holycow> why bother even using windows?
[06:37] <KEA0463> for thte user
[06:37] <Arafangion> jmerlin_: Name a case where OpenGL even needs to change?
[06:37] <holycow> minerale, no they haven't, no seismic activity was detonated
[06:37] <holycow> their state new agency just said they did
[06:37] <keleus> KEA0463, its hard to say. try #freebsd
[06:37] <minerale> holycow: ugh
[06:37] <keleus> KEA0463, i havent done freebsd in a while
[06:37] <KEA0463> to scared
[06:37] <jmerlin_> the implementations of capabilities of d3d on the new cards are much more efficient than opengl methods of simulating those capabilities
[06:38] <jmerlin_> sure the cards support opengl
[06:38] <SuperMiguel> Arafangion: when the pci-e came out they had problems with OPENGL :P
[06:38] <KEA0463> i just got ubuntu working right
[06:38] <jmerlin_> but they also have support for d3d, and MUCH more support
[06:38] <holycow> jmerlin, that makes no  bloody difference
[06:38] <Arafangion> SuperMiguel: Eh?
[06:38] <KEA0463> 1 week later
[06:38] <holycow> jmerlin, not a bit
[06:38] <jmerlin_> you're using like.. 30% of what you paid for the card if you'r ejust using opengl implementations
[06:38] <Arafangion> jmerlin_: By any chance, do you actually do OpenGL programming?
[06:38] <holycow> jmerlin, create something that is free open and a true standard
[06:38] <minerale> holycow: here is the proof: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/ustqab.php
[06:38] <holycow> and sell support and tools for it
[06:38] <jmerlin_> yes, i do.
[06:38] <keleus> KEA0463, i have distro fever. i''ve been all over the place :)
[06:38] <SuperMiguel> there is any way to install blitz on ubuntu?
[06:38] <minerale> it was a 4.2 magnitude quake
[06:38] <holycow> don't enable evil to propagate
[06:38] <KEA0463> yeah me 2
[06:38] <minerale> holycow: happy ?
[06:38] <bronaugh> holycow: I'm fitting you into the "arrogant fool" category.
[06:38] <jmerlin_> holy, i would need a conference with ati and nvidia
[06:38] <holycow> minerale, checking
[06:38] <jmerlin_> come up with a standard
[06:38] <Arafangion> jmerlin_: Ok, then your arguments have /some/ merit now :)
[06:38] <jmerlin_> have their hardware conform to it
[06:38] <keleus> well i gota git goin
[06:38] <jmerlin_> then have ms conform to that with d3d
[06:39] <KEA0463> if i download the iso and i cant get an internet connection
[06:39] <holycow> bronaugh, i'm slotting you simply in th eidiot category
[06:39] <jmerlin_> you think that's going to happen?
[06:39] <keleus> KEA0463, iso of what?
[06:39] <KEA0463> i move on to next distro
[06:39] <Arafangion> jmerlin_: The Wine folks are emulating DX very nicely in GL.
[06:39] <jmerlin_> no they're not
[06:39] <jmerlin_> LOL
[06:39] <tritium> take it easy, guys
[06:39] <leon> i love ari!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:39] <Arafangion> jmerlin_: Not finished yet, but they're doing an impressive job as it is.
[06:39] <KEA0463> iso of a linux distro
[06:39] <keleus> KEA0463, what network card?
[06:39] <holycow> bronaugh, it really isn't my fault you don't want to use the 3 braincels you were gifted with
[06:39] <KEA0463> wireless laptop
[06:39] <jmerlin_> if by nicely you mean like building a car engine with wood
[06:39] <jmerlin_> sure.
[06:39] <host`> http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/dprk/nuke-test.htm
[06:39] <dubidobidoo> sexy
[06:39] <jmerlin_> dx isn't meant to be translated into opengl
[06:39] <dubidobidoo> sexy
[06:39] <tritium> holycow, bronaugh - relax
[06:39] <dubidobidoo> sexy
[06:39] <KEA0463> ath0
[06:40] <keleus> KEA0463, touchy. ubuntu is best as far as that goes. FreeBSD had mine too... but i had to compile the kernel to add it.
[06:40] <Arafangion> jmerlin_: Perhaps not, but that's besides the point.
[06:40] <jmerlin_> opengl entrypoints and dx entrypoints in the video drivers are completely different
[06:40] <jmerlin_> your card supports the features of d3d directly if at all
[06:40] <jmerlin_> not using them is STUPID
[06:40] <keleus> KEA0463, atheros!!! freebsd would work for you but it would take a decent amount of work and research
[06:40] <jmerlin_> even if they aren't standard.
[06:40] <Arafangion> jmerlin_: *HOW* can we use DX?
[06:40] <jmerlin_> you pay $500 for a very good card
[06:40] <holycow> jmerlin_, if its so great why do you even bother using linux?
[06:40] <keleus> KEA0463, and you are not going to have luck really anywhere but ubuntu.
[06:40] <jmerlin_> and yet you only use 20% of it
[06:40] <jmerlin_> wtf?
[06:40] <holycow> why don't you just go use windows
[06:40] <host`> ok, now question, where can I report a bug?
[06:40] <jmerlin_> because windows sucks
[06:40] <keleus> KEA0463, what you need is called "madwifi-ng" or just madwifi
[06:40] <holycow> you arent really interested in making linux better
[06:40] <jmerlin_> i didn't say windows was great
[06:40] <jmerlin_> i said the new capabilities of these gfx cards is great
[06:40] <tritium> jmerlin_: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[06:41] <KEA0463> how do i get that
[06:41] <kitche> host` launchpad.net
[06:41] <jmerlin_> you seem to be thinking that i think d3d or windows is good or has merit
[06:41] <jmerlin_> NO
[06:41] <KEA0463> madwifi
[06:41] <keleus> KEA0463, it comes with ubuntu
[06:41] <KEA0463> oh
[06:41] <Arafangion> jmerlin_: Personally, I feel that DX is a damn pain.
[06:41] <jmerlin_> the new features of these cards is just sitting there unused and idle in opengl
[06:41] <jmerlin_> i do as well
[06:41] <jmerlin_> i hate the shit
[06:41] <keleus> KEA0463, i woudlnt go very far. Ubuntu is very good.
[06:41] <holycow> jmerlin_, no i'm offended that you would even consider help a company like ms expand its stranglehold
[06:41] <tritium> jmerlin_: and watch the language
[06:41] <Arafangion> jmerlin_: THey do some _crazy_ stuff.
[06:41] <KEA0463> yeah ubuntu us kool
[06:41] <jmerlin_> helping ms?
[06:41] <KEA0463> is
[06:41] <keleus> jmerlin_, openGL2.0 has almost ALL of that crap.
[06:41] <jmerlin_> an open-source impelemntation of dx
[06:41] <KEA0463> kool
[06:42] <keleus> jmerlin_, nobody codes for it
[06:42] <jmerlin_> calling into drivers
[06:42] <jmerlin_> that's actually a deathblow to dx.
[06:42] <holycow> jmerlin_, the moment dx is supported on linux is when the vid card companies can go 'to hell with ogl'
[06:42] <keleus> holycow, i say screw em both and start glide again :D
[06:42] <KEA0463> ubuntu is #1 on most downloaded list
[06:42] <jmerlin_> not really
[06:42] <jmerlin_> there's too much software dependant to pull the plug on ogl
[06:42] <KEA0463> thats why i downloaded it
[06:42] <holycow> keleus, i think there is money to be made in doing what dx does but on a cross platform and open way
[06:42] <Arafangion> jmerlin_: Yet MS pulled the plug on DX9
[06:43] <shea> who would want to pull the plug on ogl
[06:43] <keleus> KEA0463, personally i have kubuntu (ubuntu with kde instead of gnome by default)
[06:43] <shea> that's crazytalk
[06:43] <jmerlin_> that's MS
[06:43] <jmerlin_> it's proprietary
[06:43] <Arafangion> jmerlin_: As is DX.
[06:43] <keleus> KEA0463, also used xubuntu (same thing but with XFCE)
[06:43] <jmerlin_> everything from MS is proprietary
[06:43] <jmerlin_> at some level
[06:43] <KEA0463> i downlaed KDE packages 2
[06:43] <keleus> i say MS needs to be ripped open with a crowbar and ALL of their assets be made public domain
[06:43] <jmerlin_> even the "source code" they release is shrouded with calls into proprietary shit
[06:43] <minerale> holycow: South Korean intelligence officials said a seismic wave of magnitude-3.58 had been detected in North Hamkyung province, according to Yonhap. It said the test was conducted at 10:36 a.m. (9:36 p.m. EDT Sunday) in Hwaderi near Kilju city on the northeast coast, citing defense officials.
[06:43] <tritium> jmerlin_: I told you to watch the language!
[06:43] <keleus> not just open source... _public domain) heh
[06:44] <holycow> keleus, i don't, i just think ms needs to get out of the os business
[06:44] <foo> Can I chroot an ssh user so they can only ssh out to another system?
[06:44] <_yell8w>  :P 
[06:44] <holycow> keleus, that basically kills their single ability to lock out competitors and control the ecosystem
[06:44] <Arafangion> jmerlin_: Even my GL book talks about the war between DX and GL, practically saying that MS used FUD to propel DX into the limelight, even though it was /awful/ (at the time)
[06:44] <KEA0463> Vista   yeah!!!!!!!!
[06:44] <Arafangion> jmerlin_: imho, it's still /awful/.
[06:44] <minerale> foo: look into rssh
[06:44] <foo> minerale: hmm, ok. Thanks
[06:45] <B_166-ER-X> lol
[06:45] <B_166-ER-X> l'art de planter en partant un debugger
[06:45] <B_166-ER-X> wine: Unhandled exception, starting debugger.
[06:45] <Arafangion> jmerlin_: The way DX deals with textures and pointers makes things rather nasty.
[06:45] <B_166-ER-X> oups
[06:45] <B_166-ER-X> sorry
[06:45] <Arafangion> jmerlin_: From a code point of view.
[06:45] <KEA0463> my hp says its vista ready
[06:45] <Arafangion> B_166-ER-X: #winehq
[06:45] <KEA0463> yipppie
[06:45] <foo> minerale: hmm, I want them to have a shell, but I only want them to be able to use the ssh command to ssh out. This looks a tad different, no?
[06:46] <Arafangion> B_166-ER-X: And speak there in English, as that's the langauge those devs use.
[06:46] <Arafangion> B_166-ER-X: Though, if you don't feel confident in English, let them know that it's not your native language.
[06:46] <holycow> minerale, i guess it is true then
[06:46] <minerale> foo: actually rssh only allows scp/cvs etc.. use this: http://www.ffnn.nl/pages/articles/linux/setting-up-a-chroot-jail-for-cvs.php
[06:46] <SuperMiguel> there is any way to install blitz on ubuntu?
[06:46] <B_166-ER-X> Arafangion i know, it was a 'wrong window' mistake :)
[06:46] <B_166-ER-X> sorry
[06:46] <Arafangion> B_166-ER-X: Ha :)
[06:47] <holycow> jmerlin_, of what benefit do you hope this project to be then?
[06:47] <keleus> KEA0463, i wouldn't bother. its like 802.11n - everyone says they can do it but we just _don't_know_
[06:47] <minerale> foo: it's setup for cvs, but you just follow the same idea to only allow them ssh... but even better you could just setup port forwarding...
[06:47] <holycow> let me try to understand your resoning
[06:47] <tritium> jmerlin_: please watch your language from here on out
[06:47] <Arafangion> jmerlin_: Anyway, we'll give this rant a miss :)
[06:47] <Arafangion> jmerlin_: 'tis was entertaining.
[06:47] <SuperMiguel> there is any way to install blitz on ubuntu?
[06:47] <KEA0463> dont bother with what keleus
[06:47] <foo> minerale: hm, ideally.. this is my goal.. to allow someone to ssh into me, and then ssh into another system.. and I can set up ssh keys on his account so he doesn't need a password for the second system he is going to ssh out to
[06:47] <Arafangion> Looks like jmerlin_'s banned now.
[06:47] <keleus> KEA0463, vista ready
[06:47] <KEA0463> oh
[06:47] <keleus> Arafangion, your a few lines behind...
[06:48] <Arafangion> keleus: Evidently.
[06:48] <jmerlin_> yeah well
[06:48] <foo> minerale: Is that link still the thing to do?
[06:48] <Arafangion> jmerlin_: /query me.
[06:48] <KEA0463> i am in college taking computer classes
[06:48] <holycow> jmerlin_, so i'm gonna try to understand why you think this is a good idea
[06:48] <keleus> KEA0463, its like how you can technically run XP on 64m of ram...
[06:48] <olof> omg help =))
[06:48] <jmerlin_> i agree dx is horrible
[06:48] <jmerlin_> i hate it
[06:48] <keleus> KEA0463, but its most certainly not going to be a fun experience
[06:48] <jmerlin_> but you realize that it would take 5+ years
[06:48] <holycow> jmerlin_, how again do you hope that this will be beneficial?
[06:48] <jmerlin_> to make a new standard
[06:48] <keleus> jmerlin_, suggesting we drop the subject?
[06:48] <KEA0463> i am going for networking degree
[06:49] <jmerlin_> a new open-source standard
[06:49] <holycow> jmerlin_, expalin pls
[06:49] <minerale> foo: yeah, the link with chroot jails for cvs
[06:49] <jmerlin_> because there is literally billions of dollars of hardware
[06:49] <keleus> KEA0463, same. hoping for security myself. got my a+ and net+ in the mean-time
[06:49] <foo> minerale: ok, thanks. I'll do that
[06:49] <jmerlin_> that supports this proprietary d3d
[06:49] <holycow> jmerlin_, thats  not an explanation
[06:49] <jmerlin_> no, i'ts not
[06:49] <KEA0463> yeah hop i get a job
[06:49] <keleus> holycow, jmerlin_, that discussion almost got one of you banned....
[06:49] <jmerlin_> but it makes creating a new standard infeasible
[06:49] <Arafangion> jmerlin_, holycow; let's carry this out in ##gfxstd
[06:50] <olof> when i booted up my desktop ubuntu now, i got just a terminal after i typed in my login name and passw at login screen. then in that terminal i typed firefox to gain accec to chatzilla and now im here... anyways, i think it is because i tried to start another X yesterday... i dont know what to do now, please help me bring back my normal desktop someone =))
[06:50] <darkaura> well I think my mp3 player is toast
[06:50] <keleus> olof, terminal like black-and-white or terminals witha  mouse?
[06:50] <olof> i have a mouse
[06:50] <keleus> darkaura, you format it as fat16?
[06:50] <KEA0463> security guys use unix
[06:51] <keleus> olof, your using twm instead of gdm
[06:51] <KEA0463> like freeBSD
[06:51] <KEA0463> i heard
[06:51] <keleus> darkaura, also vfat should work
[06:51] <_yell8w>  olof:  tried startx ? 
[06:51] <keleus> KEA0463, we use it all.
[06:51] <olof> keleus: say what? =)
[06:51] <KEA0463> oh
[06:51] <olof> ill try startx
[06:51] <keleus> _yell8w, hes got TWM running
[06:51] <KEA0463> etherape
[06:51] <olof> uhm, i cant alt tab to the console anymore :P
[06:51] <_yell8w>  oh, nvermind then 
[06:51] <keleus> olof, use ctrl-alt
[06:52] <keleus> olof, but your already in X
[06:52] <olof> and then?
[06:52] <keleus> but your using TWM (tiny window manager)
[06:52] <zeck> alguem fala portugues?
[06:52] <keleus> your xsession got goofed.
[06:52] <tritium> tabbed window manager
[06:52] <keleus> i forget where but it needs to be set to gdm (for gnome) or kdm (for kde)
[06:52] <olof> keleus: yeah i guess so, since i never rebooted yesterday when i was playing arou nd and tried to start another x
[06:52] <olof> i have ubuntu, so i guess its gnome
[06:53] <darkaura> okay I cfdisk my mp3 player set it to primary fat13 max amount of space
[06:53] <keleus> arg! stop asking questionS! (just kidding) i need to get to bed
[06:53] <keleus> olof, yes
[06:53] <keleus> fat16
[06:53] <keleus> or vfat (preferred)
[06:54] <olof> how do i get to normal desktop then? :SS
[06:54] <SpaceFrog> i downloaded a file with a .sit extension.. How do i install it, or rather what do i do with it?
[06:54] <darkaura> cfdisk deosn't give a vfat option
[06:54] <holycow> SpaceFrog, nothing, thats an osx file if i remember correctly
[06:54] <darkaura> I write the partition
[06:54] <olof> i already tried startx
[06:54] <yell8w>  olof:  config your xorg init file or something 
[06:54] <keleus> olof, startx isnt going to help
[06:54] <KEA0463> the game nexuiz is fun with ubuntu
[06:54] <yell8w>  i'm not sure of the details 
[06:54] <SpaceFrog> holycow: oh, i thought i chose the linux version
[06:54] <SpaceFrog> thanks
[06:54] <keleus> olof, x is running (or your mouse wouldn't be there, or would this chat window)
[06:55] <keleus> yell8w, his window manager setting got goofed, X is running.
[06:55] <PseudoPlacebo> Hi I'm installing dapper. The screen resolution is 800x600 I want it to be at least 1024x768. Also- I'm using dual-screen how hard is it to eventually set up dual screen on Ubuntu?
[06:55] <yell8w>  keleus:  that's why i said config his init file and restart it or something 
[06:55] <olof> i have no idea how to even edit it =(
[06:55] <darkaura> quit it and when I try to mount /mnt/sdc /media/mp3 -t vfat it givs this error
[06:56] <darkaura> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc,
[06:56] <darkaura>        missing codepage or other error
[06:56] <darkaura>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[06:56] <darkaura>        dmesg | tail  or so
[06:56] <keleus> olof, press CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE and type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" - see if that helps. if not, startx
[06:56] <keleus> darkaura, your formatting it wrong or mounting the wrong drive
[06:57] <PacketScan> darkaura, you have to mount from /dev/sdc(partition number)  or use --bind to mount one folder somether else.  using the latter you drop the file type option.
[06:57] <olof> ok thanks for tips will try now keleus
[06:57] <keleus> I.. have to go to bed. im loosing my balance (sick or something)
[06:57] <keleus> g'night for the 50x time now :)
[06:58] <yell8w>  9 keleus 
[06:58] <darkaura> then I goto system administrator then disk  click on the usb mp3 player it shows the partition, but for filesystem it shows unformated
[06:58] <darkaura> I try to format and it stays unformated
[06:59] <PseudoPlacebo> Hi I'm installing dapper. The screen resolution is 800x600 I want it to be at least 1024x768. Also- I'm using dual-screen how hard is it to eventually set up dual screen on Ubuntu?
[07:00] <olof> hey
[07:00] <olof> i "kinda" got it to work
[07:00] <olof> i changed session to gnome at login
[07:00] <yell8w>  :) 
[07:00] <olof> atleast i have the menus and stuff now, but i guess if i change back to the other session it wont work
[07:01] <olof> did that keleos dude go away?
[07:01] <yell8w>  olof:  yes he did 
[07:01] <olof> doh =(
[07:01] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell PseudoPlacebo about fixres
[07:02] <olof> think u r able to help instead?
[07:02] <yell8w>  olof:  i'm not sure but i'll try 
[07:03] <yell8w>  ? 
[07:04] <olof> yeah, u know what happend, didnt u?= P
[07:04] <dfgas> anyone use vmware player
[07:04] <holycow> i do
[07:04] <olof> when im logging in with standard session i get stuck at a terminal (but i have a mouse i can use)
[07:04] <railz> what pkg do i need for mp3 playback in xmss/bmp?
[07:05] <holycow> !mp3
[07:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:05] <railz> i'd search the forums, but man the new search is bad, is there anyway to access the old one?
[07:05] <dfgas> holycow, do you run xp in player at all?
[07:05] <holycow> railz google is best
[07:05] <holycow> railz, in google serach you can do 'search this stuff site:website.com'
[07:06] <holycow> dfgas, i run it in workstation and server not player but it shouldn't make and diff
[07:06] <railz> i know about restricted formats but does the w32codec pack provide mp3 playback as well? i thought that pkg was primarily video
[07:06] <holycow> railz, no all of it
[07:06] <railz> k
[07:06] <dfgas> holycow, it deosn't dectect my sound card, just gives me a -1 in my vmx file
[07:07] <harrism> Hello everyone, I understand there are not many games for 64 bit users but does anyone know of a first person shooter I can play? I already have enemy territory but was looking for something single player?
[07:07] <holycow> dfgas, *hmm* i won't be able to help with that as vmware player doesn't seem to have vmware-configure.pl ... maybe one of their binary drivers is borking
[07:08] <dfgas> i tried to install server but it says there is vmware stuff installed already
[07:08] <yell8w>  olof: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg 
[07:08] <railz> ok i just installed w32codec but bmp/xmms still refuse to play mp3s
[07:08] <davin> Hi, is it true that I can reconfigure/rechoose the usplash by doing 'sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so' ? Just want to make sure before I invoke it
[07:08] <railz> i'm pretty sure there is an additional pkg for mp3 playback in non gstreamer apps
[07:08] <davin> raliz: try easyubuntu
[07:09] <railz> i know of easyubuntu, and it's great that exists but instead of me running all that stuff it installs do you know the pkg needed for mp3s?
[07:09] <yell8w>  olof:  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/nox 
[07:09] <tritium> !mp3 > railz
[07:09] <harrism> anyone? :/ how about rpg games?
[07:10] <davin> railz: nope I just opened easyubuntu and only ticked mp3 support, you can write down the codecs it installs though
[07:10] <tritium> harrism: you should consider installing the 32-bit version for games.  You'll have fewer headaches.
[07:11] <zachhale> anyone know a good commandline based torrent client for linux?
[07:11] <harrism> I know, I was thinking of doing that but had wishful thinking I guess
[07:11] <holycow> bittornado has that kind of interface i think
[07:11] <dfgas> holycow, any idea on that?
[07:12] <holycow> dfgas, yeah delete your /etc/vmware folder
[07:12] <dfgas> k
[07:12] <holycow> when vmwre server installs it checks for a file in there if its already installed
[07:12] <holycow> when you remove it that doesn't get purged
[07:12] <holycow> *welcome to proprietary software*
[07:12] <davin> gonna try it out now
[07:14] <dfgas> holycow, kickarse, thanks its installing now
[07:14] <PseudoPlacebo> Madpilot: I tried everything in that FAQ, edited xorg.conf with new HorizSync and VertRefresh values.
[07:15] <PseudoPlacebo> Added 1024x768 to the list.
[07:15] <PseudoPlacebo> Restarted X.
[07:15] <PseudoPlacebo> Still no go.
[07:15] <Madpilot> PseudoPlacebo, not sure what to suggest then - sorry
[07:15] <holycow> no prob
[07:15] <PseudoPlacebo> =\
[07:16] <yell8w>  PseudoPlacebo: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ? 
[07:18] <wahjava> hi
[07:18] <railz> befoer i leave, is there anyway to access the old search?
[07:18] <railz> the new forum search is horrible
[07:18] <holycow> railz, just use google search wtih site:sitename.com
[07:18] <v1per> if i want to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, should i change my sources.lst first?
[07:18] <wahjava> I'm running Ubuntu Dapper, with all my users are available from LDAP directory installed on the server and home directories NFS mounted from server
[07:19] <tritium> v1per: no
[07:19] <v1per> tritium, i don't think it worked last time
[07:19] <tritium> v1per: it doesn't use your sources.list file for any reason
[07:19] <wahjava> when any user logs in to the system, he'll get 'System->Administration' menu partially
[07:19] <bronaugh> *grumble*
[07:19] <v1per> ah, nvm, that's the one w/ many prompts
[07:19] <bronaugh> oh well, using onboard Via video.
[07:19] <bronaugh> on which glx is borked on ubuntu. whee!
[07:19] <v1per> i've tried almost everything... i still can't startx anymore (after the update)
[07:20] <wahjava> while when any user in /etc/passwd logs in, he'll get complete 'System->Administration' menu
[07:20] <bronaugh> but at least it doesn't crash when you touch it.
[07:20] <yell8w>  v1per:  error message ? 
[07:20] <v1per> yell8w, no screens
[07:20] <wahjava> how do I make complete "Administration" menu available to all users ??
[07:21] <Jesse1984> i have been having crazy toruble trying to install ubuntu 6.06, but i have sorted it out!! i used the ultimate boot cd! its the best, i used the maxtor drive utility to 0 out the drive totally then restored a new MBR !! and im installing without a hitch! WOOT!
[07:21] <yell8w>  v1per: what happens when you tried startx ? 
[07:21] <PseudoPlacebo> yell8w: Just tried the dpkg-reconfigure still didn't work. =\
[07:21] <v1per> yell8w, well i'm in windows now, but it would say that gdm wouldnt start, no screens error..
[07:22] <yell8w>  :| 
[07:22] <v1per> yell8w, i'm in windows backing up lots of stuff =/
[07:22] <PseudoPlacebo> This is super fucking frustrating.
[07:22] <dfgas> holycow, its asking for a sieral number? i tought i didn't need one, its free
[07:22] <v1per> i bet PseudoPlacebo has the same prob as me
[07:22] <PseudoPlacebo> The only option is resolution 640x480
[07:23] <holycow> dfgas, vmware server is free ... i do think you still need to get some sort of serial from them, i forget now been a while
[07:23] <holycow> register and see
[07:24] <Roman_Logix> HI... kinda a newbie to linux and ubuntu... does anyone know how to get better driver support for the ATI Radeon 7500 AGP (not mobile)... ATI doesnt support this card, they support the everything newer than this one:(
[07:24] <yell8w>  v1per:  PseudoPlacebo : this is where I got it http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/nox  
[07:25] <yell8w>  and http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html 
[07:25] <yell8w>  i personally have not had problems with xorg so... 
[07:25] <bronaugh> Roman_Logix: I have a Radeon 7000.
[07:25] <bronaugh> Roman_Logix: same crap... generation 1 Radeon hw.
[07:25] <PseudoPlacebo> yell8w: I've never had X problems before dapper.
[07:25] <bronaugh> Roman_Logix: here, I experience the joy of crashes within seconds.
[07:26] <bronaugh> Roman_Logix: are you also experiencing this joy?
[07:26] <v1per> yell8w, nod, i did not have ubuntu-desktop
[07:26] <v1per> i did not have ubuntu-desktop when i made the update to edgy
[07:26] <v1per> although it was highly recommended that i did, lol
[07:26] <tritium> v1per: you should have had it
[07:26] <Roman_Logix> the driver for the radeon 7500 agp wont support open gl, and I get weird lines through buttons in x... i think a new driver would help
[07:26] <yell8w>  lol 
[07:26] <v1per> it's annoying as hell...screw it
[07:26] <tritium> v1per: also, #ubuntu+1 for edgy questions
[07:27] <bronaugh> Roman_Logix: it does support GL.
[07:27] <v1per> ubuntu-desktop contains ....idk... gnome*
[07:27] <Ayabara> is it possible to expand my root partition when I'm running ubuntu? it comes up as locked in gparted. I run an ubuntu vmware image, so I have to resize the partition when I'm logged in
[07:27] <bronaugh> Roman_Logix: so long as you have the "radeon" kernel module loaded to support DRI...
[07:27] <v1per> but i guess i'm paying for my mistake now
[07:27] <holycow> Ayabara, no, use the live cd and make sure to backup before attempting
[07:27] <bronaugh> Roman_Logix: and have dri and glx as Load lines in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:28] <holycow> that is use any live cd that has gparted, parted, qtparted tools
[07:28] <v1per> if only update-manager was written in gtk...
[07:28] <yell8w>  PseudoPlacebo:   i'm not sure but in my system i can go straight system >> prefs  >>> resolution and all is there 
[07:28] <Roman_Logix> how do I get it to use the radeon kernal? or what should I add to the xorg.conf to make it work?
[07:28] <PseudoPlacebo> yell8w: I'm used to that.
[07:28] <PseudoPlacebo> But now it's not working the same way.
[07:28] <Ayabara> holycow, but can I use the livecd in vmware player?
[07:28] <holycow> v1per, whats wrong with the update manager now? it just paython with pygtk, how is it an issue?
[07:28] <PseudoPlacebo> I'm kind of angry with dapper tbh.
[07:28] <yell8w>  :| well then i don't know what else to tell you ? 
[07:29] <holycow> Ayabara, you want to resize the partition of a guest os in vmware?
[07:29] <holycow> *cough*
[07:29] <v1per> holycow, are you referring to the package update-manager (verbatim)
[07:29] <Roman_Logix> Im sorry guys.. Ive been working with wintel stiff for sooooooooooooo long, its tough for me to addapt... the only reason im using this card is because it supports dual monitors and I got it for $20 from a friend
[07:29] <holycow> Ayabara, that is something you haveto do from vmware but i've never tried it
[07:29] <bronaugh> Roman_Logix: it's a nice card.
[07:29] <holycow> v1per, yes
[07:29] <bronaugh> Roman_Logix: you can try a few options... swcursor may help.
[07:30] <v1per> holycow, someone told me it was gnome-based
[07:30] <holycow> Roman_Logix, in linux land no one uses ati
[07:30] <Ayabara> holycow, ok, I'll give it a try. thanks
[07:30] <holycow> its a horrible company with a horrible history
[07:30] <v1per> holycow, to run it, i would have to install ubuntu-desktop (aka 200+ mb of crap)
[07:30] <holycow> Roman_Logix, even on windows no one uses it for anything serious
[07:31] <Roman_Logix> what does swcursor do?
[07:31] <yell8w>  holycow:  i'm running an ati rage 128 pro  
[07:31] <holycow> those of us that have had to use ati stuff for say high end 3d animation dropped ati years and years ago
[07:31] <yell8w>  :P 
[07:31] <tritium> v1per: ubuntu-desktop is simply a meta-package.  Removing it doesn't remove any software.
[07:31] <holycow> its just a crap company with crap products
[07:31] <O2> hello, I am O2
[07:31] <czer323> All i want is a program to rearrange my music library to resemble the itunes structure.  /artist/album/track#-TrackName.  Can anyone make a suggest to a program that can do this?
[07:31] <bronaugh> Roman_Logix: uses software to draw the cursor on screen instead of using dedicated hardware. it -can- fix some video problems.
[07:31] <holycow> v1per, okay  but what are you trying to do?
[07:31] <v1per> note: this is all in the past....
[07:31] <holycow> v1per, you have server installed i guess? no desktop environment? if so then you can just upgrade with apt
[07:32] <v1per> what i _did_ was filter my system out of a bunch of gnome applications
[07:32] <O2> I wonder, if i wanna do C++ programming in ubuntu, what should I do?
[07:32] <ghostshadow189> oh , s1 help me pls . when my ubuntu boot it use taskbar of icewm . so i must change window manager to metalicy every time it boot ?
[07:32] <bronaugh> O2: install gcc and some IDE?
[07:32] <holycow> amd now owns ati, so who knows, maybe things will get better
[07:32] <tritium> O2: start by installing build-essential
[07:32] <bronaugh> (gcc in the "GNU Compiler Collection" sense)
[07:32] <Roman_Logix> I know ati is crappy for linux, but Im tring to convert to linux... I deal with win2k3 server and winxp all day at work and am sick of it so Im tring to convert all my machines at home to linux... I still run win2k3 for all my server stuff at home, even my emac is running ubuntu now... I just cant fix this one problem....
[07:32] <v1per> holycow, and recently when i updated to edgy using apt (update-manager complained that i had no ubuntu-desktop), i ran into X errors
[07:33] <O2> bronaugh, does ubuntu has gcc in its iso?
[07:33] <bronaugh> holycow: kind of hoping for it; but I have no idea whether it'll really happen.
[07:33] <PseudoPlacebo> Motherfucker.
[07:33] <bronaugh> O2: I think so, yes. but I don't know.
[07:33] <Roman_Logix> how do I ensure that I have the newest kernal for the 7500... just use the system update thing?
[07:33] <holycow> Roman_Logix, yeah you don't have much choice but to either use vesa drivers or the ati open source drivers available via dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg :/
[07:33] <tritium> PseudoPlacebo: watch your language
[07:33] <bronaugh> O2: yes.
[07:34] <O2> what ide is better?
[07:34] <tritium> !b-e > O2
[07:34] <Roman_Logix> thanks holycow... I have a old matrox g450 pci card I guess I will throw in there instead
[07:34] <bronaugh> O2: don't ask me. I use emacs, but that's because I'm on crack.
[07:34] <holycow> Roman_Logix, welcome to linux anyway, we are happy to answer whatever questions you have, there is not a lot we can do about p roprietary softwarwe/hardware tho
[07:34] <v1per> yes, one has to be on crack to use emacs
[07:34] <holycow> Roman_Logix, should work better
[07:34] <bronaugh> O2: try a bunch; see what suits you.
[07:35] <holycow> Roman_Logix, if you are trying to setup dual monis, when you are ready gimme a shout i'll toss you my config file
[07:35] <RRubin> Roman_Logix: its a sad state, it almost seems sometimes as if the hardware people are attempting to make it difficult for peeps like you :/
[07:35] <Roman_Logix> I'm buying a condo and getting married so I am kind of limited to using my lunch money for my hardware now since the soon to be wifey is in charge ;)
[07:35] <yell8w>  O2:  kate / scintilla 
[07:35] <yell8w>  lol Roman_Logix 
[07:35] <holycow> Roman_Logix, :) hehe
[07:35] <O2> :(
[07:35] <RRubin> Roman_Logix: best you can really do is work around stuff and look into compatability b4 buying anything new
[07:36] <ArrenLex> Roman_Logix: What are you trying to get working?
[07:36] <holycow> what RRubin i know it sucks when you only have limited fund
[07:36] <RRubin> we have some new systems with ATI at work that X wont run on
[07:36] <holycow> but what we all do is research first and then buy hardware ... its actually a healthy thing to do anyway
[07:36] <RRubin> is there really an ideal video card to buy if you do research?
[07:37] <holycow> RRubin, depends on what the research is
[07:37] <RRubin> nvidia is just as bad almost..
[07:37] <O2> what's the best IDE for C++ in ubuntu ?
[07:37] <RRubin> and it seems like those 2 are it most of the time
[07:37] <holycow> there is a company making an open source vid card based on a reprogrammable gpu
[07:37] <Roman_Logix> I have the dual monitors working fine.. the config files are not that hard after fiddling with my emac for 2 months getting the video working, what kind of 4xagp card that does dual analog svga that has modern support for linux?
[07:37] <holycow> its going to be a bit expensive in first generatio nbut you will be able to reprogram the gpu it self
[07:37] <ArrenLex> Rrubin: Nvidia may be proprietary, but it is infinitely better than ATI with respect to Linux.
[07:37] <holycow> so for certain kinds of research it will be an amazing product
[07:38] <holycow> Roman_Logix, pretty much any nvidia card
[07:38] <ArrenLex> Roman: what card are you trying to get working?
[07:38] <bronaugh> ATI is schizophrenic.
[07:38] <RRubin> ArrenLex: yes. but still unacceptable in many ways (have nvidia in my laptop, and it makes linux mostly unusable :/)
[07:38] <bronaugh> nVidia actually does know what they want, even if I don't agree with it.
[07:38] <ArrenLex> RRubin: unstable in what way? Using what driver?
[07:38] <holycow> RRubin, how so?
[07:38] <holycow> nvidia really has done a great job supporting us even if they are proprietary drivers
[07:39] <RRubin> ArrenLex, holycow: problems with backlight not powering on after closing the lid, refusing to swsuspend, etc
[07:39] <v1per> holycow, if i was going to make changes to my current setup (such as sudo aptitude update), should i change my sources from edgy back to dapper or something?
[07:39] <bronaugh> oh, and look at that. Via locked up.
[07:39] <Roman_Logix> any recommendations on nvidea cards that do 4x agp with dual analog heads? or anyone thats actually using it?
[07:39] <bronaugh> 2 video drivers down...
[07:39] <holycow> v1per, eh no, once you go edgy you never go back without a reinstall
[07:39] <ArrenLex> RRubin: with what driver?
[07:40] <bronaugh> Roman_Logix: it doesn't matter if it has DVI.
[07:40] <holycow> RRubin, that has nothing to do with video drivers
[07:40] <v1per> holycow,  i think i managed to get halfway there lol
[07:40] <harisund> Hello! I have to compile a new kernel, but I don't have a fast enough machine ... Can I do the compilation on a faster machine and build it on the slower machine?
[07:40] <RRubin> ArrenLex, holycow: basically the windows drivers check every 10 seconds that things are initted properly and reboot the video card if not. and the linux folk refuse to do that (nv driver) while the nvidia driver is broken with regard to swsuspend
[07:40] <bronaugh> Roman_Logix: because DVI-I (which almost every card has) includes all the analog pins in addition to digital ones.
[07:40] <holycow> thats normal, most of that stuff is flaky as hardware companies don't really like working iwth us
[07:40] <ArrenLex> harisund: do you have access to a faster machine running Linux? If so, look into distcc
[07:40] <ArrenLex> !distcc
[07:40] <ubotu> distcc: Simple distributed compiler client and server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.18.3-3 (dapper), package size 138 kB, installed size 360 kB
[07:40] <v1per> ok, i'll attempt a few things
[07:40] <harisund> ArrenLex: ah .. ok will have a look .. thanks .
[07:41] <Roman_Logix> so most cards are dual head now that have both connectors?
[07:41] <RRubin> holycow: yes it does. the kernel module rejects the request to suspend.
[07:41] <RRubin> there was a patch but it crashed on my system so i gave up
[07:41] <holycow> RRubin, ah, then i'm mistaken
[07:41] <Roman_Logix> and one more stupid questions guys... anyone know what usb wifi nic works in a PPC ubuntu install?
[07:41] <holycow> allrighty
[07:41] <bronaugh> Roman_Logix: quite a few will. just make sure there's a native driver.
[07:41] <RRubin> i need to try it again actually, i heard a rumor they fixed it
[07:42] <dfgas> holycow, are then any modules to load to get sound
[07:42] <RRubin> holycow: how expensive do you think that card you were talking about will be? more than a new nvidia or such?
[07:42] <Roman_Logix> i tried getting my lucent silver usb working with it, it detected something there, but not as a nic:(
[07:42] <dfgas> holycow, i hear something about oss
[07:43] <CorpseFeeder> I just installed kino DV video editer from the package manager, but I can't find it on my computer. It's not in the applications menu anywhere and I don't know where to look for it. What is the easiest way to find where programs are installed to?
[07:43] <holycow> dfgas, your the vmware dude?
[07:43] <dfgas> yah
[07:43] <holycow> search vmware forums about that, hard to really support a closed source app
[07:43] <holycow> not sure why your xp doesn't have sound
[07:44] <dfgas> vmware server does it too
[07:44] <ArrenLex> CorpseFeeder, after you install a package, use dpkg -L <packagename> to list the files in it.
[07:45] <myesterious> hi
[07:45] <ArrenLex> !hi
[07:45] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:45] <Brydenn33> my libfontconfig1 is BROKEN (installed). and so is my libfontconfig1-dev
[07:45] <Brydenn33> how do i fix it?
[07:46] <azureal> ok wow...i think it fixed itself
[07:46] <myesterious> Why the Ubuntu often crash after installed several apps via "edgy" repository on Dapper ?
[07:46] <Flannel> myesterious: because you're not supposed to do that
[07:46] <azureal> <aka v1per>
[07:46] <holycow> myesterious, #ubuntu+1
[07:46] <holycow> !edgy
[07:46] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:47] <ArrenLex> Brydenn33: Uh, try reinstalling the packages?
[07:47] <Brydenn33> ya i did
[07:47] <Brydenn33> says it cant
[07:47] <azureal> oh no! my pageplaylist addon is not compatible w/ bon echo =/
[07:47] <CorpseFeeder> fanx. I got it.
[07:47] <salim> hello guys..
[07:47] <myesterious> hey, But Ubuntu has managed the dependencies ?
[07:47] <Roman_Logix> ok guys... thanks soooo much for all your assistance... I'm going to start going here more... hopefully in the future I'll answer more than I ask... I do have to say that atleast this channel isnt as bad as the ones I used to join back in the 90's, when IRC was the trailor park of the internet ;) Have a great night guys and thanks once again! Good night! -Roman_Logix
[07:47] <azureal> kidding
[07:47] <yell8w>  night all 
[07:48] <Brydenn33> ArrenLex: says there was an error commiting changes.
[07:48] <azureal> night yell8w
[07:48] <Brydenn33> ArrenLex: any other ideas?
[07:48] <holycow> Roman_Logix, the rules in this channel help us not get too much into the 'grumpy tech support dude' mode
[07:48] <holycow> although its hard to avoid that after a while :)
[07:49] <O2> I really want to know what is Emacs !
[07:49] <O2> who can tell me?
[07:49] <dfgas> holycow, do you use alsa?
[07:49] <holycow> !emacs
[07:49] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[07:49] <RRubin> O2: its a text editor
[07:49] <holycow> dfgas, its default on edgy, therefore yes
[07:49] <O2> oh, thanks, RRubin !!
[07:49] <ghostshadow189> hi all .i dont know why but so hard to understand . when my ubuntu boot , ituse icewm window manager (even my default session is gnome) , so i mustchange window manager to metacity everytime ubuntu boot . and it alsothe reason that it make the sound mute . i also try to uninstall icewm from snaptic but after that it makemetacity lose the border (i go to theme -> detail and just seecontrols and icons)
[07:49] <dfgas> hmmm, not understanding here then
[07:49] <RRubin> O2: it, and vi are a special breed of editors for terminal mode that allow you to edit a lot without taking your hands off the home keys
[07:50] <harisund> ArrenLex: you still around?
[07:50] <myesterious> thanks
[07:50] <asd> hi all, i have got a used dell optiplex with intel onboard grafic. Ubuntu is only running at a very low resolution and I cannot change it. is it possible to allocate more memory to the chip in the x11 config file?
[07:51] <krazykit> odd.
[07:51] <O2> RRubin: what do you think the best IDE for C++ in ubuntu?
[07:51] <ArrenLex> harisund: yeah, what do you need?
[07:51] <krazykit> xine doesn't play some flac files that flac123 plays
[07:51] <holycow> 02 kdevelop
[07:51] <harisund> ArrenLex: distcc is AWESOME! Didn't know I could use it for bootstrapping Gentoo itself! Thanks a ton .. I had never heard of it.
[07:51] <azureal> best editor ever is vi =)
[07:51] <ArrenLex> asd: if you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, it lets you determine how much memory to allocate.
[07:51] <RRubin> O2: i use vim
[07:51] <harisund> ArrenLex: will definitely make my kernel compilation much faster..
[07:51] <Brydenn33> fags
[07:52] <azureal> !language
[07:52] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:52] <RRubin> O2: but its not exactly an IDE.
[07:52] <ArrenLex> harisund: glad I could help you. Chanced across it when I was looking for a blender render farm. I ended up writing my own with bash, but I filed distcc away as a Cool Thing(tm)
[07:52] <holycow> ArrenLex, you wrote your own?
[07:52] <holycow> hehe
[07:52] <harisund> 'blender render' farm? What's that?
[07:52] <asd> ArrenLex:  I will try this, how many MB shoulr I use?
[07:52] <holycow> there are tons of render managers out there for blender
[07:52] <ArrenLex> holycow: blender farm. Yes. In bash.
[07:53] <harisund> oh .. ok .. anyway.. I am familiar with mpi and all.. and distcc seems good.. I am going to give it a try now .. thanks again
[07:53] <cschauer> Hey everyone, I have tried to install ubuntu on my computer But i'm recieving an error when it tries to load up that says that it failed to load teh graphical user interface, it's actually while I try to login
[07:53] <ArrenLex> holycow: I know, but none of them could combine Windows and Linux machines in a way that was easy for me to configure and understand.
[07:53] <azureal> lot of gui failures w/ edgy =/
[07:53] <holycow> what do you have the windows machines doing?
[07:53] <ArrenLex> asd: Hell if I know; I don't have an integrated card. I guess it depends on how much ram you have and all sorts of things.
[07:54] <asd> ArrenLex: thank you, I will try.
[07:54] <cschauer> Does anyone know what would cause that error?
[07:54] <ArrenLex> harisund: blender is a 3D animator\modeller. As you might imagine, the rendering of every single frame in a movie takes a while. So I wrote a program to make all computers in my network each render a part of the movie.
[07:55] <ArrenLex> !blender
[07:55] <ubotu> blender is a free application for 3D modelling, animation, rendering, etc. You can install it from Ubuntu's repositories, and tutorials are at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro
[07:55] <holycow> ArrenLex, got a gallery online?
[07:56] <ArrenLex> holycow: no; after setting it all up, I figured out that I can't actually... you know, MAKE anything decent. And I don't have any need or desire to use blender. I'm not the artistic type; I'm a writer.
[07:56] <holycow> ArrenLex, rofl!!!
[07:56] <ArrenLex> holycow: so I followed some tutorials and was like, "ooh, aaah, this is faster." And then it fell into disuse.
[07:56] <ArrenLex> Yes, yes.
[07:56] <holycow> i love that :)
[07:57] <cschauer> ArrenLex do you know what would cause my ubuntu to fail to load the gui?
[07:58] <ArrenLex> cschauer: uh, lots of things? Does it give you an error message?
[07:58] <pwk> hi
[07:58] <ArrenLex> !hi
[07:58] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:58] <cschauer> It just says it failed to load the graphical user interface when it asks for a login and password
[07:58] <O2> holycow: I don't use KDE, I use GNOME
[07:58] <pwk> i really want to install ubuntu
[07:58] <ArrenLex> cschauer: so it gives you the CLI rather than a display manager?
[07:59] <holycow> O2, makes no dif, you can run any app in any de
[07:59] <Flannel> pwk: you've come to the right place.  What problems you having?
[07:59] <ArrenLex> KDE is life.
[07:59] <cschauer> Sorry, i'm a newb, CLI =?
[07:59] <O2> RRubin: you are stick to command line mode, :P
[07:59] <cschauer> It's like a command prompt
[07:59] <Flannel> cschauer: command line interface
[07:59] <ArrenLex> Command Line Interface. Text prompt.
[07:59] <pwk> i wish i knew what programs i could run instead of wnodws
[07:59] <cschauer> yes command line
[07:59] <ArrenLex> pwk: Linux is a program you can run instead of Windows.
[08:00] <holycow> pwk, open up system / admin / synaptic
[08:00] <holycow> a nice gui to let you install things from online repositories
[08:00] <ArrenLex> cschauer: log in from the command line. Then, run "startx". Pastebin whatever errors it gives you.
[08:00] <ArrenLex> Or... tell us about them, I guess, since you can't paste. How are you talking to us?
[08:00] <azureal> strange.. my x seemed to have fixed itself, but it still has bugs
[08:00] <O2> too many people here, if I leave for a while, I can't find my words...
[08:01] <ArrenLex> O2: it doesn't get any less than this =P
[08:01] <cschauer> here one moment, i'll get my laptop
[08:01] <cschauer> and log on irc from there
[08:01] <cschauer> brb
[08:03] <zoidberg> guys i was wondering if there is a webcam chat program for UBUNTU
[08:03] <zoidberg> ?
[08:03] <foo> minerale: Still around?
[08:03] <azureal> aps webcam
[08:03] <azureal> (apt-cache search)
[08:03] <zoidberg> azureal: is it like netmeeting?
[08:03] <azureal> i'm just telling you to search for it =P
[08:03] <ArrenLex> zoidberg: azeureal is just telling you to s... yes.
[08:03] <anilomkar> ubotu, How to mount windows partitions
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about How to mount windows partitions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:04] <azureal> aps is my alias for apt-cache search lol
[08:04] <ArrenLex> anilomkar: "mount" command, or put them in your /etc/fstab
[08:04] <bronaugh> ok.. well, that's fun.
[08:04] <bronaugh> I switched to my Radeon 9000 and crashes disappear.
[08:04] <ArrenLex> Yay disappearing crashes.
[08:04] <bronaugh> likewise, though, there are no crashes on my Debian box with the Radeon 7000.
[08:04] <ArrenLex> Yay Debian.
[08:05] <bronaugh> so I have to conclude that the debian driver lacks a bug that the ubuntu driver has.
[08:05] <patbam> hi folks, is there a way to install python2.5 with synaptic?
[08:05] <holycow> *ding* *ding* *ding* we have a winner
[08:05] <holycow> >_>
[08:05] <AbortD> how do i go about setting up dual monitors in ubuntu?
[08:05] <azureal> i have a weird graphical bug --- every window looks nice and themed, with its title, but right above the top left corner there's a small tab-sized portion of the window's title!
[08:05] <holycow> patbam, if its in repos sure, if not you need to find the packages or compile from scratch
[08:06] <Flannel> !tell AbortD about xinerama
[08:06] <bronaugh> azureal: graphics bug :) yay.
[08:06] <ArrenLex> Azureal: can you give us a screenshot?
[08:06] <bronaugh> AbortD: you should also look into MergedFB if your graphics driver supports it.
[08:06] <azureal> aye, one moment
[08:06] <bronaugh> AbortD: has more limitations wrt what arrangements of monitors you can have, but works better.
[08:06] <AbortD> mergedfb?
[08:06] <azureal> (forgot how to use scrot temporarily) =P
[08:06] <patbam> holycow: it doesn't show up when i search for python2.5 in syntaptic; does that mean it's not in the repos? ( i think that's the right spelling; python2.4 is there, for isntance)
[08:06] <holycow> correct
[08:06] <Flannel> patbam: right, 2.5 isn;t in repos
[08:07] <cschauer> k
[08:07] <cschauer> runnin ubuntu again to see what it says
[08:07] <AbortD> bronaugh: can i msg u?
[08:07] <Flannel> patbam: it was just released in september, of course it's not in dapper.
[08:07] <bronaugh> AbortD: rather keep it in chan, but if you think it's really important, go ahead.
[08:07] <AbortD> k
[08:08] <Geoffrey2> I understand there's actually a way to make Flash 9 work natively with Ubuntu...has anyone tried it, and how well does it actually work?
[08:08] <holycow> Geoffrey2, well i don't know but i do know if you wait adobe has promised to release a native version
[08:08] <patbam> Flannel: i see, okay, thanks. i'll try to compile it
[08:08] <Geoffrey2> holycow, some time in 2007, at present
[08:08] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey2: Uh, no? o_O
[08:09] <holycow> indeed
[08:09] <azureal> ArrenLex, here's your screenshot -- http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2vmhxjs
[08:09] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey2: there exists no native Flash Player for Linux > 7 ATM. There is a Flash Player 9 in development -- http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf
[08:09] <pwk> after i fiinish my math homework i'll setup ubuntu if i can
[08:09] <rellis[home] > Anyone know how to add an entry to the menu that's displayed when you right click a file?
[08:09] <azureal> oh, another bug is that my terminal font has changed to something else
[08:09] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey2: You might be referring to CodeWeavers' Crossover Office, which lets you use windows plugins seamlessly in your Linux firefox. But this product costs money.
[08:09] <pwk> i got vista/ xp dual boot now
[08:10] <rellis[home] > I want to add an option to "Encrypt file..." and have it execute a program.
[08:10] <ChocoCid> codeweaver is crap
[08:10] <ChocoCid> they have a 60 day beta of the next thing
[08:10] <ChocoCid> i tried it out, read the license thing, and apparently all it is, is some shell-like thing that runs wine ;[
[08:10] <Draco> Morning all
[08:10] <pwk> so, will ubuntu still work?
[08:10] <ArrenLex> Azureal: I think that's just the theme you're using.
[08:10] <azureal> ArrenLex, nope
[08:10] <ChocoCid> still haven't figured out how wine can be included in proprietary software like that when wine is GPL'ed
[08:10] <Geoffrey2> ok, I was in here a while back and was reading someone posting that there was some complex hack that would make Flash 9 (Windows version i suspect), run...but I never saw what the hack was...oh well, just have to wait, I guess
[08:11] <ChocoCid> !flash
[08:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:11] <foo> I followed this but the user cannot login .. any ideas? http://www.ffnn.nl/pages/articles/linux/setting-up-a-chroot-jail-for-cvs.php
[08:11] <ChocoCid> bleh
[08:11] <ArrenLex> ChocoCid: codeweavers' office is basically wine, yes. But it has official support, some extra hacks, and the ability to run plugins.
[08:11] <cschauer> ArrenLex XIO: Fatal IO error 104 ( Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining
[08:11] <cschauer> Fatal server error: no screens found
[08:11] <ChocoCid> yeah, if i were going to pay, i'd get cedega before crossover
[08:11] <ChocoCid> i tried crossover beta thingy, it basically sucked :\
[08:12] <ArrenLex> cschauer: "no screens found" seems to indicate you're using the wrong driver for your card, or trying to use options your card does not support. Are you sure you're using the correct driver?
[08:12] <Draco> Ok heres my problem and I hope someone can help, full installation with ver 6 and my network card does not work, bytes received but no bytes sent, I have reinstalled twice. If I boot up with live cd ver 6 network card works fine, any ideas ? I have also installed windows to test the card and that works fine. Please help :)
[08:12] <ArrenLex> Draco: what kind of card is this?
[08:12] <cschauer> It did not give me an option, this is a fresh install and It hasn't brought me to any configurations to set or whatever
[08:12] <ArrenLex> cschauer: do you at least know what card you have?
[08:13] <Draco> onboard card for MSI motherboard
[08:13] <Geoffrey2> actually, I believe Flash 9 will run pretty well under plain wine.....I'm pretty sure I had it installed before Ubuntu melted down on me.....
[08:13] <cschauer> yes Radeon x1300 pro
[08:13] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: it'll run fine under Wine, but you're going to also have to run Windows Firefox under wine to use it.
[08:13] <ArrenLex> cschauer: okay, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and make sure to specify radeon driver.
[08:13] <azureal> where does one change the title of a window?
[08:14] <azureal> let's say..in bash
[08:14] <avagant> Where does one make the windows (firefox, konversation) transparent?
[08:14] <ArrenLex> Azureal: I don't think you can.
[08:14] <RRubin> azureal: if you want the title to reflect the current directory, theres some tricks in PS1 variable for that
[08:14] <ArrenLex> avagant: Are you looking for xgl\compiz, or simple compositing?
[08:14] <Geoffrey2> and perhaps that was the hack they were referring to...some way to make Linux browsers recognize and work with the Windows version of Flash...supposedly it had been posted on the .swf blog...I just didn't have time at the time to go looking for it
[08:15] <avagant> simple, i don't want to have to download another desktop environment i had plenty of trouble with that.
[08:15] <RRubin> azureal: otherwise, you can make a script that does it. its essentally echoing some escape charactors and the title and closing escape chars
[08:15] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: if you find it, please share. I'd love to read it.
[08:15] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: this is what codeweavers does, though. I highly doubt they would be able to sell their product if the same functionality was available for free.
[08:16] <azureal> RRubin, ah, ok... but general window titles would be a desktop problem?
[08:16] <Draco> no-suggestions on my problem ?
[08:16] <ArrenLex> avagant: what desktop environment are you running?
[08:16] <avagant> gnome.
[08:16] <RRubin> azureal: what happens is your printing magic codes that terminal emulators can choose to support.. and gnome-terminal does. so yeah. you can enable-disable support for that i think in the gnome-terminal configs
[08:16] <Geoffrey2> ArrenLex, codeweavers will make Windows Flash 9 work with the LINUX version of Firefox?
[08:16] <ArrenLex> avagant: I can tell you how to enable compositing in X, but as for actually making windows transparent... you're going to have to google the gnome settings for that; I only know how it's done in KDE.
[08:16] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: absolutely.
[08:17] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: It'll look like a regular plugin. Completely seamless.
[08:17] <avagant> ArrenLex: That's stinky. I figured out how to change themes and such, and that's as far as I've gotten.
[08:17] <Geoffrey2> ArrenLex, interesting....well, if they're gonna charge for it, they'd better offer a lot more than plain wine does
[08:17] <azureal> isnt transparency a compiz/xgl thing?
[08:17] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: support.
[08:17] <Geoffrey2> ArrenLex, yep
[08:18] <ArrenLex> azureal: no; xgl\compiz goes far beyond simple transparency.
[08:18] <avagant> And I have to say, this whole sound thing feels like more I bit off more than I can chew.
[08:18] <RRubin> Geoffrey2: they did a lot of legwork as far as configuring it and testing it with various apps too
[08:18] <azureal> RRubin, ah, i'm just trying to figure out my graphical bug
[08:18] <avagant> I had sound, I lost it, I had it again, I lost it. Is this really worth it?
[08:18] <Draco> Ok heres my problem and I hope someone can help, full installation with ver 6 and my network card does not work, bytes received but no bytes sent, I have reinstalled twice. If I boot up with live cd ver 6 network card works fine, any ideas ? I have also installed windows to test the card and that works fine.
[08:19] <avagant> I just did my 6th install Draco, I know how you feel.
[08:19] <RRubin> avagant: unfortunately sound is an area thats not real strong in linux currently. theres many different standards and systems for doing it that conflict.
[08:19] <Geoffrey2> RRubin, I used it for a while before going back to plain wine...I can see they've done a lot of work to make certain programs work well with it, but several of the applications are stuck at rather obsolete versions
[08:19] <azureal> ArrenLex, by simple, do you mean "fake"?
[08:19] <avagant> RRubin: I have to say, it's just incredibly unreal.
[08:19] <ArrenLex> azureal: no, I do not mean "fake". The transparency is real.
[08:19] <charlie5> hi
[08:19] <Draco> avagant, first time problem for me normally installations run smoothly
[08:19] <charlie5> what adept packages would i need to get konqeror to load 'flash' pages ?
[08:19] <RRubin> avagant: you can get it to work reasonably enough by learning the different systems (esd, oss, etc) and understanding what is using what and configuring them etc
[08:19] <ChocoCid> !flash > charlie5
[08:20] <ArrenLex> charlie5: you need to install the flashplugin-nonfree package. Konqueror will find it.
[08:20] <avagant> The whole alsa solution doesn't work for me, because say I'm running xmms and firefox at the same time with alsa, if I turn down the volume on one, they both go down.
[08:20] <cschauer> alright, i did all the configuration changes, now what?
[08:20] <holycow> i would add that basically alsa is the open source standard and apps are starting to support it more and more
[08:20] <holycow> eventually the problem will dissapear transparently
[08:20] <RRubin> avagant: isnt there an xmms setting to use a local volume control or not?
[08:20] <ArrenLex> avagant: yes, they share the same configuration. You can solve this by going into the xmms options and setting "use software mixer".
[08:20] <charlie5> ChocoCid: thanks ... i will read the links
[08:20] <avagant> There's a thing for that? I didn't think of that.
[08:21] <Draco> *bangs head in frustration*
[08:21] <charlie5> ArrenLex: cheers ... i just added that one, but maybe i need to restart konqereor
[08:21] <avagant> It's really annoying though unfortunetly, I'll just have xmms on esd and firefox with aoss and it seems to work fine together.
[08:21] <cschauer> ArrenLex, should I do Startx again after the configuration or?
[08:21] <avagant> Also, xmms has some uglyyyyy icons.
[08:21] <ArrenLex> charlie5: tools-settingns-configure konqueror - plugins - scan for new plugins. Make sure it's found.
[08:22] <RRubin> avagant: beep-media-player :)
[08:22] <ArrenLex> cschauer: of course, if you want to try starting X. =P
[08:22] <avagant> I wish there was an icon pack for all of my icons.
[08:22] <cschauer> I'm getting the same error
[08:22] <charlie5> ArrenLex: thans very much :)
[08:22] <ArrenLex> charlie5: you're welcome.
[08:23] <ArrenLex> cschauer: what's the output of "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE"?
[08:23] <azureal> ArrenLex, that's brilliant -- the sound thing about using software control =P
[08:23] <ArrenLex> Of course it's brilliant. It is my advice, and I am brilliant.
[08:24] <charlie5> ArrenLex: yep, that did the trick :D ... cheers
[08:24] <avagant> I got it to work though, esd for beep and alsa for firefox.
[08:24] <avagant> err esd for xmms.
[08:24] <ArrenLex> avagant: .....why?
[08:25] <avagant> I still gives me that "no soundcard" crap if I try to run them both.
[08:25] <avagant> actually i haven't tested that lately.
[08:25] <cschauer> ArrenLex the output is (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER then (EE) No devices detected
[08:25] <ArrenLex> That's really odd. I had that problem like two years ago, before alsa was compiled with dmix support by default in the repos.
[08:26] <ArrenLex> cschauer: I hate to doubt you, but are you sure you have the right card? Please post the output of "lspci" and also "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver"
[08:26] <avagant> Yah see the turning the sound down thing still happens.
[08:26] <avagant> I think I'll stick to esd for xmms.
[08:26] <ArrenLex> Turning sound down thing?
[08:26] <ArrenLex> You do realise that esd is still using alsa in the end, right? x
[08:26] <avagant> turn down xmms sound, firefox sound goes too.
[08:26] <ArrenLex> D
[08:26] <Jei61X> I desperately need to get new drivers for my video card for a fresh install of ubuntu - is there some way to start in a safe-graphics mode, long enough for me to get download the new drivers?
[08:27] <ArrenLex> avagant: enable software mixer in XMMS.
[08:27] <avagant> Is that a plugin?
[08:27] <ArrenLex> Jei61X: will command line suit you?
[08:27] <ArrenLex> avagant: no! It's part of the alsa conf options in XMMS.
[08:27] <Draco> is there a way to make a LiveCD with some network/proxy configuration ?
[08:27] <Jei61X> ArrenLex: won't help me if I need to download the stuff from a website
[08:28] <avagant> See ya, now it says the "make sure you have a soundcard" crap.
[08:28] <ArrenLex> avagant: right-click on xmms, go preferences, change output plugin to ALSA, click configure, enable "use software volume control"
[08:28] <cschauer> VGA compatible controller : ATI technologies Inc  : Unknown device 7142
[08:28] <noiesmo> !easysource
[08:28] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:28] <ArrenLex> cschauer: that's your problem. Your sound card is not detected by the kernel. It's unsupported.
[08:28] <ArrenLex> cschauer: unless you're running a really old kernel, I would say for at least a few months to a year, that machine ain't running any Linux.
[08:29] <avagant> It says "make sure nothing else is blocking the soundcard"
[08:29] <ArrenLex> cschauer: is it a brand new video card?
[08:29] <avagant> but I did all the tricks with dsnoop and dmix and such.
[08:29] <Draco> is there a way to make a LiveCD with some network/proxy configuration ?
[08:29] <ArrenLex> avagant: and you're running a recent system?
[08:29] <cschauer> well It's a newer video card
[08:29] <avagant> Uh well the computer is kinda old.
[08:29] <cschauer> the version number on ubuntu is 5.10
[08:29] <cschauer> on the package
[08:29] <avagant> I have /.asoundrc and everything all configured.
[08:29] <ArrenLex> cschauer: firstly, upgrade to ubuntu dapper
[08:29] <avagant> I hate to tell you this but maybe I'd better stick to what I have before I pull my hair out.
[08:30] <ArrenLex> avagant: Okay, don't fix it if it ain't broken. xD
[08:30] <ArrenLex> cschauer: secondly, try the fglrx drivers from ATI.
[08:30] <avagant> Like I said before, I'm working on my 6th reinstall here.
[08:30] <ArrenLex> cschauer: to do that, apt-cache search fglrx and install all which looks relevant.
[08:31] <cschauer> alright
[08:31] <avagant> Augggghhh
[08:31] <avagant> I have a via82xx onboard soundcard if that makes any difference.
[08:31] <ArrenLex> cschauer: "all which looks relevant" = linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` and xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:32] <avagant> I heard I might as well just forget it with those.
[08:32] <Jei61X> hm...
[08:32] <Jei61X> If I had the video drivers on a seperate disk, for instance
[08:32] <shah02> is tehre any way i can use gnome dictionary offline?
[08:33] <avagant> I'm actually half considering finding a windows disc.
[08:33] <Jei61X> hm
[08:33] <avagant> Yah I know.
[08:33] <ArrenLex> Jei61X: what are you talking about? xD
[08:33] <Jei61X> OK, how do I start Ubuntu with just the CLI?
[08:33] <ArrenLex> avagant: what problem are you having, exactly?
[08:33] <avagant> You don't understand how frustrating this has been.
[08:33] <avagant> Everything! Haha
[08:34] <ruffles> this channel never sleeps lol
[08:34] <ArrenLex> Jei61X: if it can't boot the GUI, it'll fall back automatically. Alternatively, select "recovery mode" from the grub menu.
[08:34] <Jei61X> There are instructions on Nvidia's website for doing a CLI install
[08:34] <avagant> Actually that's really odd, gaim sounds played at the same time as firefox...hmmm.
[08:34] <Jei61X> oh, it's booting the GUI - just distorted all to hell
[08:34] <ArrenLex> Jei61X: the nvidia drivers are available from the ubuntu repos. Recommend you use those.
[08:34] <ArrenLex> Jei61X: then use the recovery mode option.
[08:34] <Jei61X> Elvis Naked Monkeys!
[08:34] <ArrenLex> Jei61X: does it work with the "nv" drivers?
[08:34] <Jei61X> Where do I find those?
[08:35] <ArrenLex> ....yes. Elvis Naked Monkeys indeed. o_o
[08:35] <Jei61X> "nv" drivers?
[08:35] <ArrenLex> Jei61X: "nv" is the open-source driver for nvidia cards which does not support 3D acceleration. Will it at least get you booted?
[08:35] <Jei61X> No idea, haven't tried it, booted from the LiveCD just now
[08:35] <avagant> Maybe it's just xmms.
[08:36] <ArrenLex> Jei61X: I suggest you install it before you go troubleshooting.
[08:36] <ArrenLex> avagant: can you be more explicit with your "Everything! Haha" comment? It's hard to troubleshoot, you know, "Everything".
[08:36] <ArrenLex> All at once, that is.
[08:36] <avagant> Haha.
[08:36] <Jei61X> Better question: where do I find the ubuntu repos?
[08:36] <ArrenLex> The dependencies are quite horiffic.
[08:36] <avagant> ArrenLex: Alright for starters, sound.
[08:37] <ArrenLex> Jei61X: they're... there. o_o when you use apt-get or synaptic, you're using the ubuntu package repositories.
[08:37] <ArrenLex> avagant: what about sound doesn't work?
[08:37] <avagant> ArrenLex: Well I still can't play more than one thing at a time in Alsa.
[08:37] <avagant> ArrenLex: Even though I have everything configured as such to do so.
[08:37] <ArrenLex> avagant: is your alsa up to date? Have you hacked the config files to hell?
[08:37] <avagant> How do I check if it's up to date?
[08:37] <Jei61X> OK, let me try actually booting from the system, might not have this issue...
[08:37] <Normal> when trying to upgrade to edgy, I get this:"Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found"..
[08:38] <ArrenLex> avagant: mine played multiple sounds without touching the configs. Maybe you've actually DISABLED that feature?
[08:38] <avagant> I don't think I did.
[08:38] <ArrenLex> Normal: use a different mirror.
[08:38] <Normal> How do I go about doing that?
[08:38] <avagant> ArrenLex: How do I find out which version of Alsa I have, I got it from the repos.
[08:38] <ArrenLex> Normal: in /etc/apt/sources.list, replace "archive.canonical.com" with "archive.ubuntu.com", for example.
[08:39] <ArrenLex> avagant: will anything upgrade if you apt-get update && apt-get upgrade?
[08:39] <Normal> Okay, I'll try it
[08:39] <avagant> Let me try real quick.
[08:40] <avagant> It just asked me for root even though I put in sudo....hmm.
[08:40] <ArrenLex> Your system is weird, man. o_O
[08:40] <avagant> You're telling me!
[08:40] <ArrenLex> Keep in mind that sudo won't carry over &&.
[08:41] <Normal> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 195.248.90.23 80] 
[08:41] <ArrenLex> You need to do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:41] <avagant> It just asks me if I want to install linux image and something else.
[08:41] <Admiral_Chicago> avagant: i think the command is man alsa --verison
[08:41] <Admiral_Chicago> *version
[08:41] <avagant> no sir, didn't work. :(
[08:41] <ArrenLex> Normal: try this line: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main multiverse universe restricted
[08:41] <ArrenLex> Normal: try this line: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main multiverse universe restricted
[08:41] <ArrenLex> Sorry, second one.
[08:42] <dfgas> how do i fix?
[08:42] <dfgas> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:42] <dfgas>  vmware-player
[08:42] <dfgas> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:42] <dfgas> A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
[08:42] <dfgas> then it quits
[08:42] <Admiral_Chicago> !paste > dfgas
[08:42] <avagant> There's no man page on alsa either.
[08:43] <dfgas> k, but how do i fix?
[08:43] <ArrenLex> dfgas: that's all the errors it gives you?
[08:43] <Jei61X> Well, I feel foolish
[08:43] <dfgas> pretty much
[08:43] <Jei61X> Noi troubles with the video drivers at all
[08:44] <Admiral_Chicago> avagant: info alsa --version
[08:44] <ArrenLex> dfgas: what if you install the package manually? Go to /var/cache/apt/archives and run sudo dpkg -i vmware-player*.deb
[08:44] <Normal> ArrenLex: I think that did it, thank you!
[08:44] <Jei61X> My next mining expidition will be the default root password, though
[08:44] <ArrenLex> There is no info alsa.
[08:44] <avagant> 4.8
[08:44] <ArrenLex> Normal: I forget what I helped you with, but you're welcome! :D
[08:44] <ArrenLex> ...or maybe there is.
[08:44] <dfgas> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26045/
[08:44] <ArrenLex> No, no there isn't. That's info's version.
[08:44] <Jei61X> Any thoughts?
[08:45] <ArrenLex> Jei: what's the problem again?
[08:45] <avagant> oh snap
[08:45] <Jei61X> This time - the default for the root password
[08:45] <Jei61X> *headdesk*
[08:45] <ArrenLex> dfgas: assuming you're installing the package as root, try "sudo mkdir /etc/vmware/"
[08:45] <Jei61X> Oh.
[08:45] <ArrenLex> And try installing it again.
[08:46] <ArrenLex> Jei61X: There is no root in ubuntu by default.
[08:46] <lupine_85> mcphail: any real reason for el pings?
[08:46] <ArrenLex> ...and bye?
[08:46] <ArrenLex> ...and hi.
[08:46] <noiesmo> !firestarter
[08:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[08:46] <Jei61X> wrong button, sorry ><
[08:46] <dfgas> ArrenLex, how bout removing?
[08:46] <avagant> what version of alsa is everyone else on?
[08:47] <Admiral_Chicago> 4.8
[08:47] <ArrenLex> dfgas: if you want to remove the package, try going to /var/cache/apt/archives and issuing sudo dpkg --purge vmware-player*.deb
[08:47] <Jei61X> I feel foolish once again :-)
[08:47] <ArrenLex> dfgas: I have no idea why I just said that.
[08:47] <ArrenLex> dfgas: from anywhere, issue apt-get remove --purge vmware-player
[08:48] <ArrenLex> dfgas: ignore previous idiotic instructions.
[08:48] <Jei61X> My account already has full access to everything - duhhhhh
[08:48] <fyrestrtr> !vmware
[08:48] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[08:48] <fyrestrtr> read that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[08:48] <ArrenLex> Jei61X: no it doesn't. You have to use sudo. If your account DOES have full access, that's very dangerous.
[08:49] <lupine_85> "can be" very dangerous ;)
[08:49] <Jei61X> Well, I have to use a password for the high-level system stuff, of course
[08:49] <ArrenLex> Yeah.
[08:49] <Jei61X> I'm still a-quiver over this computer not rebooting 4 or 5 times just from being on
[08:50] <Jei61X> I'm not at all sure why, but too much processing power seems to make Windows fill its diaper rather quickly
[08:51] <ArrenLex> You guys are more interesting than the 1818 edition of Frankenstein.
[08:51] <ArrenLex> Just observing, since that's what I'm taking a break from by being here.
[08:52] <ArrenLex> Jei: never heard of a machine which was too FAST for windows to handle. Where did you acquire this amazing creature?
[08:52] <Jei61X> GamePC.com
[08:52] <ArrenLex> And how fast?
[08:52] <Jei61X> twin Intel Xeons - 2.33 GHz each
[08:52] <ArrenLex> Fancy.
[08:53] <Jei61X> Well, since I had the dough, I figured - why not get the most processing power I could conceive of?
[08:54] <ArrenLex> 'cause you don't need it! :D
[08:54] <ArrenLex> Please tell me you're at least running folding@home on it and thereby contributing to society.
[08:54] <Jei61X> *blink*blink*
[08:55] <ArrenLex> So, has everyone else named their PCs also, or am I just weird?
[08:55] <harrism> even though I have 64 bit amd I can install ubuntu 32 bit right? I'm sick of not finding any games
[08:56] <Jei61X> I certainly did \
[08:56] <ArrenLex> harrism: of course you can.
[08:56] <harrism> great, so I can then install packages for i386?
[08:57] <ArrenLex> harrism: I don't know if you can just magically change architectures. I've never done it. I just know that it's POSSIBLE to run a 32-bit ubuntu on a 64-bit system, as Sam is 64-bit but this system sure isn't.
[08:58] <Jei61X> oh, that's what folding@home is LOL
[08:58] <Jei61X> cousin of SETI@home
[08:58] <ArrenLex> ....yyeah.
[08:59] <ArrenLex> Except SETI@home is a total waste of cycles.
[08:59] <Admiral_Chicago> seriously
[08:59] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm working on my own proteing project
[09:00] <Admiral_Chicago> it's insame
[09:01] <Jei61X> It is, at that
[09:01] <Jei61X> Now, what in creation is "ld"?
[09:01] <ArrenLex> man ld
[09:01] <Draco> is there a way to make a LiveCD with some network/proxy configuration ?
[09:01] <ArrenLex> It's a library linker.
[09:02] <ArrenLex> I don't think you need ld unless you're compiling.
[09:02] <Jei61X> aha
[09:02] <Jei61X> which it seems I am
[09:02] <Jei61X> the driver update uses ld
[09:04] <Draco> god i hate being ignored when i ask a question
[09:05] <Jei61X> Alright, BBL
[09:05] <rellis[home] > Draco: Then IRCp robably isn't a good choice of places ot hang out.
[09:05] <patbam> is dpkg compatible with apt-get?
[09:06] <KenSentMe> patbam: yes
[09:06] <Draco> rellis[home] , well it is supposed to be a support channel
[09:07] <KenSentMe> Draco: but you can't expect that people who know an answer to your question are online when you ask you question
[09:07] <Madpilot> Draco, no response generally means nobody knows an answer for you. You don't except 839 people to say "I don't know" to you, do you?
[09:07] <Draco> KenSentMe, relatively simple question id figure and there are over 800 people on, ive asked three questions with no response
[09:08] <patbam> i have some advice that says to install a tarball (python2.5, in my case), i should use checkinstall to create a .deb from my tarball, and then dpkg to install that
[09:08] <Draco> Madpilot, well at least that would be a response
[09:08] <Madpilot> Draco, no, 839 "I don't know"s would be spam
[09:08] <ArrenLex> Draco, your issue can be summed up by ubotu in one short factoid:
[09:08] <ArrenLex> !repeat
[09:08] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:08] <harisund> Draco: first, even though there are around 800 people, not all are necessarily online and next to the keyboard at this instance.
[09:09] <harisund> patbam: yes. You should create a .deb file and use dpkg .. then you can use apt to remove it. But what package are you installing from a source? (tarball?) and why?
[09:09] <aaron> My laptop only has Ubuntu on it now, whats the least painful way to add a windows partition running Windowsxp
[09:10] <aaron> does anyone have advice or links
[09:10] <ArrenLex> aaron: all ways will be painful because you will have to contrive to re-install grub.
[09:10] <patbam> harisund: python2.5, because it's not available in the repos yet
[09:11] <harisund> patbam: ah ok. Either way, prefix a 'checkinstall' to your final command in the installation sequence... you should have a nice .deb package (after answering a couple of questions of course0
[09:11] <Draco> ok heres a question, i am trying to copy a cd with K3b it copies a cd then halts with error unable to eject cd, I have seen an update or configuration change somewhere relating to ejecting cd's (i also cant eject cd by pressing the button)
[09:12] <cyberdream> Hello there, i need to print from Ubuntu LTS to a Canon 1120 printer which is a network printer on windows2003 server, any idea ??
[09:12] <patbam> harisund: i just used synapitc to install checkinstall; the post i found int he forum says: "To do that, you have to replace the  "make install" step with "check install" if you have the checkinstall package installed. " is that what you mean?
[09:12] <ArrenLex> cyberdream: what problems are you having?
[09:12] <harisund> patbam: hmmm not sure. I normally replace "make install" with "checkinstall make install"
[09:13] <Draco> sigh, no response
[09:13] <patbam> harisund: i should read teh checkinstall man page :)
[09:13] <patbam> thanks
[09:13] <harisund> patbam: oh ok. Just checked up some documentation. Apparently checkinstall does a make install by default.
[09:13] <minerale> foo: kinda
[09:13] <harisund> So you can simply do "sudo checkinstall" .. and it will work.
[09:13] <Squee> How do I make Ubuntu go into a text login by default?
[09:14] <harisund> Squee: you disable gdm from starting up. 'sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove'
[09:14] <avagant> What version of alsa is everyone else on? Just so I know.
[09:14] <ArrenLex> Squee: uninstall the display manager. apt-get remove gdm
[09:14] <ArrenLex> or kdm or xdm depending on what you have.
[09:14] <Squee> Um... What if i want to go back to gdm later?  Do i have to keep uninstalling GDM and reinstalling it?
[09:15] <Asymmetry> ArrenLex, removing GDM is kind of permanent.
[09:15] <Asymmetry> Or, drastic.
[09:15] <ArrenLex> Asymmetry: isn't that what he wants?
[09:15] <patbam> harisund: ah, i see. since checkinstall is in the repos it's probably got the defaults configured correctly... famous last words ;)
[09:15] <Asymmetry> Squee, removing GDM from the startup set is a better idea. Go with harisund's idea.
[09:15] <ArrenLex> Squee: do you want to boot to Linux in text mode ONCE?
[09:15] <ArrenLex> Because if so, just select "recovery mode" from grub.
[09:15] <cyberdream> can any one help me in printing from Ubuntu ????
[09:16] <harisund> Squee: GDm is what gives you a graphic screen. If you stop gdm from running, you still have gdm installed on your hard disk (which means you can set it to start on boot up again later). If you remove gdm, you will have to manually install it again if you want it to appear on startup again.
[09:16] <Squee> ArrenLex:  I'm running a lan server, and I dont need X running through any of it so i want it disabled to save ram.  But when Its over the computer will be for mythtv
[09:16] <ArrenLex> cyberdream: what problem?
[09:16] <cyberdream> ArrenLex: Hello there, i need to print from Ubuntu LTS to a Canon 1120 printer which is a network printer on windows2003 server, any idea ??
[09:16] <aaron> Does anyone know if there is a "Howto" page if you want to add a WinXP boot to Ubuntu system
[09:16] <ArrenLex> Squee: feel free to uninstall or disable gdm.
[09:16] <ArrenLex> cyberdream: any idea about WHAT?
[09:16] <cyberdream> any idea how to add this printer ??
[09:17] <ArrenLex> How to add this printer to cups? You will have to define it as a samba printer.
[09:17] <Squee> So if i take off gdm i can still 'startx' and it will work fine?
[09:17] <KenSentMe> cyberdream: you need to tell us what you've tried, what errors did you get etc.
[09:17] <harisund> Squee: that will work as well.
[09:17] <ArrenLex> Squee: yes.
[09:17] <Squee> ok cool thanks
[09:17] <cyberdream> KenSentMe: till now, i tried adding it from the GUI Gnome printer wizard. but didnt work
[09:17] <harisund> Draco: bad luck eh? I can sort of understand the frustration going through your mind at being ignored.. just happens... perhaps now is a bad time for your questions :)
[09:18] <ArrenLex> Draco: try googling or the forums.
[09:18] <harisund> ArrenLex: you are using Gaim? Do you know of any way to disable the "nick has joined" "nick has parted" "nick has quit" messages in Gaim IRC?
[09:19] <Draco> harisund, no such thing as a bad time when u urgently need a solution :) im on ubuntuforums atm looking about, frustrating though because the no-eject is a common thing on all my ubuntu installations
[09:19] <O2> Hello, every one!
[09:19] <O2> I am O2
[09:20] <ArrenLex> harisund: nope, don't know of one. Google?
[09:20] <O2> I want to do C++ programming in ubuntu, I know I need gcc or else?
[09:20] <ArrenLex> Hello, O2. I am the Lord Jesus Christ.
[09:20] <harisund> ArrenLex: nah .. I have tried.. no luck.
[09:20] <harisund> ArrenLex: lol ... O2 you will need the g++ compiler. Best way would be to install a package called 'build-essential' using the package manager of your choice..
[09:20] <O2> oh, g++
[09:21] <O2> I apt-cache search gcc, g++.      and found many results, I wonder which should I get?
[09:21] <harisund> O2: you will probably also need make (if you know what it is, good. else ignore it). Either way, it helps to install teh build-essential package since it also installs all standard development related packages nad libraries.
[09:21] <kalm> hello all, How do i change the permissions of files from console 0_0 so that they are user readable and fully editable?
[09:21] <ArrenLex> O2: install build-essential. That'll get everything.
[09:21] <melon> ok - i sort of already know the answer.. but figured i should ask anyway.. is it possible to run Gnome and KDE side by side and have the ability to switch from one to the other?
[09:21] <harisund> O2: apt-get install build-essential
[09:21] <kalm> i understand theres something to do with chmod
[09:21] <O2> Jesus ArrenLex, you are god!
[09:22] <kalm> but i dont know the commands
[09:22] <ArrenLex> Yes! :D
[09:22] <harisund> melon: you can indeed..
[09:22] <ArrenLex> Except it was suggested by someone else first. =P
[09:22] <melon> u can?
[09:22] <melon> nifty
[09:22] <tonyyarusso> kalm: 'man chmod', although depending on the file you may not want to do that, and in those cases use sudo.
[09:22] <O2> oh, thanks!
[09:22] <kalm> ok
[09:22] <kalm> thank you
[09:22] <harisund> kalm: do you own the file? And who all do you want it to be read by?
[09:22] <melon> i'm not one to get these things handed to me.. so i can just google this 'n find what i need yeah?
[09:23] <harisund> melon: KDE and Gnome can happily co-exist, and even run applications written for each other!
[09:23] <kalm> yes i own the file... its just i put the files on my home directory as root and theyre not accesible by me
[09:24] <harisund> kalm: then you need root permissions to modify it (sudo). You could do 'sudo chown kalm:kalm file_name" to make it your file again.
[09:24] <ArrenLex> harisund: I think (s)he's looking for the equivalent of "fast user switching" on Linux for DEs. Does this exist?
[09:24] <kalm> ok
[09:24] <kalm> thank you
[09:24] <melon> pretty much what i mean ArrenLex
[09:24] <melon> although - i'm beginning to think it's just unnecessary
[09:24] <harisund> ArrenLex: oh good point ... now that's a thought ... I only know of logging off and logging on .. perhaps you could run a Gnome session on vt7 and a KDE session on vt8 ... but I doubt that would be a very good idea..
[09:25] <harisund> melon: yeah .. it is .. you could pick a single window manager/desktop environment.. and customize it to suit your needs.. and then run all kinds of apps in it.
[09:26] <melon> yep - i honestly thought programs for KDE would only run in KDE and the same with Gnome
[09:26] <melon> <-- still very new at this
[09:26] <melon> but - you've already given me more than enough assistance
[09:26] <melon> thanks muchly :)
[09:26] <harisund> melon: programs for KDE need some libraries to display it. If you have those libraries installed, you can display them ..
[09:26] <ArrenLex> No, silly; programs for KDE use the QT toolkit, as does KDE itself. As long as you have the qt libraries installed, they'll run.
[09:26] <Flannel> melon: well, technically theyre not for either.  they just use KDEs graphic library, or gnomes (qt or gtk, respectively)
[09:26] <ArrenLex> And the same with gnome -- GTK.
[09:26] <harisund> pretty much what ArrenLex said. I didn't mention qt :)
[09:26] <melon> ok
[09:26] <ArrenLex> QT is life.
[09:27] <melon> well.. i'm learning..
[09:27] <harisund> Is QT GPLed now? (offtopic I know.. just curious)
[09:27] <ArrenLex> Of course. It's been GPLed for a very long time.
[09:28] <harisund> oh.. ok.. but I thought there some controversies with the QT toolkit (or was it for using on Windows?) and so the Gnome project was started to have a pure open source display library?
[09:28] <ArrenLex> Anyone else find it interesting that GTK is the "GIMP Tool Kit", which is the "GNU Image Manipulation Program Tool Kit", which is the "GNU'S Not Unix Image Maniuplation Program Tool Kit"?
[09:28] <DarkMageZ> ArrenLex, no, QT has not been gpled... it's gpl compatible
[09:28] <ArrenLex> So much meaning in so few letters..
[09:28] <harisund> DarkMageZ: ah ... ok .. cool.
[09:28] <harisund> ArrenLex: after all that, it's still recursive :D
[09:28] <Flannel> guys, take these conversation seeds to -offtopic ;)
[09:28] <ArrenLex> DarkMageZ: Lies! Hearken Wikipedia:
[09:29] <ArrenLex> License: GPL, Proprietary, QPL
[09:29] <O2> hurisund: thanks, I will try build-essential
[09:29] <harisund> O2 yes, it pretty much installs everything you will need.
[09:30] <O2> in fact, what do i need? could you list them?
[09:30] <harisund> O2: in case you need additional libraries, they will be named in the form lib<name><version>-<more info> .. such as libgtk2.0-dev and so on..
[09:30] <melon> thanks again people.. :)
[09:30] <harisund> O2 what sort of C++ programming are you intending to do?
[09:30] <DarkMageZ> ArrenLex, ah, k, they fixed the licencing in 2.2. but prior to that there were issues with the licence :P it wasn't gpl
[09:31] <O2> I want to know basic programming, not in gnome or kde
[09:31] <ArrenLex> DarkMageZ: yes, at first, QT wasn't gpl. But that's not been the case for a very long time.
[09:31] <O2> in command line mode
[09:31] <Ademan> i installed the libboost-doc package for ubuntu how do i get at those docs?
[09:31] <harisund> O2 then build-essential will be more than what you need.
[09:31] <Ademan> (devhelp doesnt see them)
[09:31] <Squee> man libboost?
[09:31] <Ademan> they're html files
[09:31] <Ademan> or thats what the package says
[09:31] <O2> then what do i need then? have a list?
[09:32] <pi> hi to everybody
[09:32] <ArrenLex> Ademan: use the command "dpkg -L libboost-doc" to see all the files that the package installed. Then you can just view them.
[09:32] <ArrenLex> Like with a browser.
[09:32] <ArrenLex> !hi
[09:32] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:32] <pi> I'm looking for activate XDMCP on my dapper
[09:32] <ArrenLex> Yay acronyms.
[09:32] <Flannel> pi: it's in the login screen setup
[09:32] <Ademan> ArrenLex: yuck, i shouldn't hafta do that... but whatever... devhelp can't view straight html can it?
[09:32] <pi> I must do: /etc/init.d/inetd restart
[09:33] <harisund> Flannel: is it still in teh login screen setup? The last time I checked it was in there.. and somebody here told me it was not there in the Dapper gdm-setup
[09:33] <pi> but the system tell me :command not found
[09:33] <avagant> ArrenLex: I just found out that my ./asoundrc was set to "default" and not my soundcard.
[09:33] <harisund> pi I don't think you need to?
[09:33] <pi> any idea?
[09:33] <ArrenLex> Ademan: I have no idea what devhelp is and what it can or cannot do. I'm suggesting a way for you to view these packages at all. If it doesn't suit you, please feel free to google.
[09:33] <Flannel> harisund: it is.  gdm setup is login screen setup
[09:33] <harisund> pi: you just need to restart gdm. Not inetd
[09:33] <pi> ok
[09:33] <ArrenLex> avagant: AHA! I told you that you messed your configs up.
[09:33] <pi> i try
[09:33] <patbam> harisund:  still around? sudo checkinstall seems to have failed me... well actually, it seems to ahve owrked, but the installation itself failed with a complaint of missing Tcl/Tk libs and "... _struct.so: no such file or directory"
[09:33] <avagant> ArrenLex: Well the sound worked before, but maybe this will help or something.
[09:34] <Ademan> by the way, there's no event or signal that gets sent out when certain bash commands are issued is there? (that you could trap and use)
[09:34] <harisund> patbam: ok . ... in that case, we need to ensure you have the necessary library to compile and install python-2.5 in the first place.
[09:34] <ArrenLex> Good luck.
[09:34] <ArrenLex> I have to go. Hope I could help someone! Nice chatting with you all.
[09:34] <avagant> Isn't there suppose to be some kinda "dsnoop" thing in my asoundrc file?
[09:34] <O2> harisund: I only want to program the Console
[09:34] <harisund> O2: yes, build-essential will get you everything you need.
[09:35] <Ademan> patbam: is the tcl8.4 package installed?
[09:35] <patbam> Ademan: checking
[09:35] <harisund> O2: if you have even a semi decent dial up, downloading build-essential won't be a big deal. Just execute 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' and in a while you will have everything you need to have to start g++ ..
[09:35] <O2> but i know it more than I need...
[09:36] <avagant> Ironically the sound works now on both with alsa. Haha
[09:36] <O2> in fact, I want to know exactly what I need for that
[09:36] <patbam> Ademan: no, should i go ahead and install it?
[09:36] <harisund> patbam: here's a suggestion. I think if you do something like apt-get build-dep python it might help
[09:36] <Ademan> i'd say its a good bet
[09:37] <Ademan> harisund: checkinstall is python?
[09:37] <harisund> Ademan: I don't know. Why?
[09:37] <ScreaminIke> how do i change my windows networking workgroup? by default, it's "workgroup" but i want it to be "lan"...
[09:37] <harisund> ScreaminIke: in ubuntu using Samba you mean?
[09:37] <Ademan> then why would installing the python package help? (except of course it DOES depend on tcl...)
[09:37] <harisund> ScreaminIke: edit the required line in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[09:37] <harisund> Ademan: no no... apt-get build-dep python installs all the necessary packages to compile python 2.4.
[09:38] <Flannel> O2: you need 90% of build-essential, the only thing you won't need is dpkg-dev, but you might as well just grab the whole thing.  that last package is 159kb
[09:38] <Draco> hooray, I found at least one solution so far, so for anyone thats having the annoying problem of eject button not working: sudo sysctl dev.cdrom.lock=0 and to make it permanent sudo sh -c 'echo "dev.cdrom.lock=0" >> /etc/sysctl.conf' (i haven rebooted to test the permanent part but eject now works)
[09:38] <ScreaminIke> thx, harisund
[09:38] <Ademan> harisund: you're right, i thought you said apt-get install, i always assume install lol
[09:38] <Ademan> but still, why would that be desirable?
[09:38] <harisund> Ademan: this- Right now, tcl is missing, so you install that. Then you try again, and this time something else is missing. You then install that.
[09:39] <ivx> hey what ftp software do you guys use?
[09:39] <patbam> searching for "build-dep" in synaptic didn't trun up anything
[09:39] <harisund> Ademan: but if you execute the build-dep everything you need to compile and build python2.4 from source is pulled. In most cases, python2.5 (the one that patbam wants) will have the same requirements.
[09:39] <harisund> patbam: build-dep is not a package.
[09:39] <KenSentMe> ivx: nautilus
[09:39] <Flannel> patbam: build-dep isn't a package, it's an argument
[09:39] <patbam> ah i see
[09:39] <patbam> no wonder it didn't show up in synaptic :)
[09:40] <harisund> patbam: either way, install your tcl package and try the checkinstall again
[09:40] <patbam> okay :)
[09:40] <Ademan> harisund: wait i just thought he was trying to get checkinstall... or was that so that he could get the latest version of python?
[09:40] <ivx> kensentme i mean for your server side
[09:40] <harisund> Ademan: he wants to use checkinstall to install the latest python2.5
[09:40] <KenSentMe> ivx: proftpd then
[09:40] <harisund> Ademan: so that he gets a .deb file that integrates nicely with the package management system.
[09:40] <Ademan> harisund: OOOHHHHHHHH, it all makes sense now
[09:40] <Ademan> yeah i know checkinstall well
[09:40] <Ademan> better than installing from source
[09:41] <ivx> kensentme: is that a real populare gpl one?
[09:41] <patbam> ugh, i was mistaken before; tcl8.4 *IS* installed
[09:41] <KenSentMe> ivx: well, i think it's pretty popular. I used this tutorial to install it: http://howtoforge.com/proftpd_mysql_virtual_hosting
[09:42] <O2> thanks Flannel
[09:42] <Ademan> patbam: well harisundis right, i misunderstood your goal
[09:42] <patbam> Ademan: so i should go ahead and try "apt-get build-dep python" ?
[09:42] <patbam> Ademan: er,  "sudo apt-get build-dep python" ?
[09:42] <harisund> patbam: I am trying it out. Give me a mintue (or go ahead adn try it)..
[09:42] <Ademan> you probably need tcl8.4-dev anyways, but i agree with harishund now
[09:42] <Ademan> yes
[09:42] <patbam> harisund: okay, thanks a lot
[09:43] <patbam> Ademan:  well i could just go ahead and install the dev thing, huh? probably wouldn't cause any problem
[09:43] <harisund> patbam: can you give me the URL from where you downloaded python2.5? I will try installing it on my machne now.
[09:43] <ivx> kensentme yeah that was the last question. thanks man
[09:43] <patbam> harisund: http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.5/Python-2.5.tar.bz2
[09:43] <KenSentMe> ivx: no problem
[09:43] <harisund> patbam: ok .. let me also try simultaneously..
[09:44] <harisund> no reason why I shouldn't have 2.5 on my system ;)
[09:44] <deadly_venom> When is Ubuntu Edgy Eft coming out ?
[09:44] <KenSentMe> deadly_venom: end of this month
[09:44] <Ademan> patbam: true, but it could be depending on A LOT more than just tcl8.4-dev, what harishund described will install everything you need, which is a good plan
[09:44] <patbam> harisund: i'm dying to try out the native sqlite :)
[09:44] <Ademan> the 26th i believe
[09:44] <KenSentMe> !edgy > deadly_venom
[09:44] <patbam> Ademan: okay, thanks
[09:44] <Ademan> !edgy
[09:44] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:44] <harisund> patbam: is that a 2.5 feature? (not much of a programmer myself)
[09:45] <patbam> harisund: yeah
[09:45] <Ademan> !schedule
[09:45] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:45] <patbam> harisund: there are a bunch of cool modules in 2.5
[09:45] <Ademan> indeed it's october 26th
[09:45] <harisund> patbam: I see. Ok (running ./configure now)
[09:46] <Ademan> can AIGLX run on vesa drivers?
[09:46] <harisund> patbam: I like the output of ./configure. If I let it runnign on my laptop for some big application, it increases my geek factor massively in college :)
[09:46] <deadly_venom> !xfree86
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xfree86 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <deadly_venom> !xfree
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <djuuss> !xorg
[09:46] <harisund> deadly_venom: what are you saerching for?
[09:46] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:47] <djuuss> Hey about Xorg
[09:47] <harisund> !info xfree86
[09:47] <deadly_venom> xfree86 supports what kind of video card?
[09:47] <ubotu> Package xfree86 does not exist in any distro I know
[09:47] <patbam> harisund: let me know if ./configure gets you any dates hehe
[09:47] <djuuss> is it possible to put custom brightness/gamma/contrast values anywhere?
[09:47] <deadly_venom> xfree86 supports what kind of video card? any in particular ?
[09:47] <deadly_venom> xfree86 supports what kind of video card? any in particular ?
[09:47] <Ademan> deadly_venom: quit spamming
[09:47] <gzevspero> Hi, I'm trying to change the size of an existing partition on my HD so I can use the freed up space to create a new partition, trying to do this using gparted, but all my existing partitions are locked - how can I remove the lock so I can repartition the drive?\
[09:47] <deadly_venom> DamN KeyboarD :(
[09:48] <djuuss> deadly_venom, all of them,  YMMV, if your on your way to the graphics card shop, pick up an nvidia card for best results.
[09:48] <Ademan> deadly_venom: don't even use XFree86, Xorg is far better (basically all of the XFree86 people)
[09:48] <harisund> patbam: I am running make now. Anyhow, I would have expected python 2.5 to be able to get compiled by python 2.4 and not g++ .. but oh well :)
[09:48] <patbam> compile 2.5 with 2.4?
[09:48] <deadly_venom> djuuss IF my vid=card died on me, sure ! .. But at the moment my video card is working fine.
[09:49] <Ademan> deadly_venom: don't use XFree86
[09:49] <djuuss> gzevsperso, did you use gksu  gparted?
[09:49] <harisund> patbam: yeah ... you know, running something like python setup.py :)
[09:49] <djuuss> deadly_venom, what kind of video are you using now
[09:49] <deadly_venom> Ademan Look, who's spamming :-)
[09:49] <Ademan> gcc would still compile it though...
[09:49] <O2> yes, I want to know what is X, x-window, xfree86, xorg, and there relation?
[09:49] <deadly_venom> djuuss ATI Radeon 9250
[09:49] <patbam> harisund: ah... likely story :)
[09:49] <Evil> hello :)
[09:49] <harisund> O2: lookup http://xwinman.org/
[09:50] <gzevspero> djuuss: what's that? in about gparted it says I have version 0.0.8.
[09:50] <djuuss> deadly_venom: Ouch. It's gonna work, but its not gonna give you pretty games at a good framerate
[09:50] <harisund> O2 that has some good documentation in the beginning you might find helpful. Besides, there's always Wikipedia for everything under the sun these days.
[09:50] <deadly_venom> djuuss used to be gamer.
[09:50] <harisund> patbam: any idea how long a
[09:50] <harisund> make takes?
[09:50] <deadly_venom> djuuss I don't tend to play any games on Ubuntu box
[09:50] <daviey> Hi,  I have dependency issue.  Can't find "linux-libc-dev" (for i386)  Any help appreicated
[09:50] <Evil> can someone tell me how to completely remove gnome environment please? i only want to run fluxbox on my laptop
[09:50] <djuuss> gzevspero, you need root acces to change partitioning. gksu runs gparted as root, that should help. Remember, dont repartition mounted drives!
[09:51] <patbam> harisund: depends on your processor, i think, more than anything
[09:51] <patbam> er, maybe ram too
[09:51] <Ademan> harisund: it all depends on the program, i'd expect python to take 10 minutes at least
[09:51] <djuuss> deadly_venom, then that ati board will work just fine with xorg
[09:51] <Ademan> kernel builds can take hours
[09:51] <harisund> Evil: unless there's some space consideration that you are worried of, you don't need to eliminate gnome. But if you do read this page http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[09:52] <harisund> patbam: Ademan ok... patbam I think make is nearly done. I am attempting a checkinstall in a second or two.
[09:52] <patbam> Ademan, harisund: took me a few minutes on a prehistoric fedora box (which ended up only sorta working) and just a couple on a recent laptop with dapper
[09:52] <deadly_venom> djuuss Question, how can I do a symbolic link, since my ndiswrapper tells me I don't have kernel builds on /lib/modules$(uname -r)/build ?
[09:52] <patbam> harisund: cool, thanks for your help
[09:52] <djuuss> harisund, how can i stop gdm from running at boot? i installed kubuntu desktop over a normal ubuntu install and i'm using KDE
[09:52] <KEA0463> hello i installled fluxbox in ubuntu how do i get it to run
[09:53] <KEA0463> it wont start
[09:53] <Ademan> patbam: i guess i overestimated the size of python :-p
[09:53] <daviey> deadley venom "ln -s linkto linkname
[09:53] <wickedpuppy> deadly_venom, ln -s from to
[09:53] <djuuss> deadly_venom, what daviey said!
[09:53] <wickedpuppy> KEA0463, you are still here ?
[09:53] <KEA0463> yeah
[09:53] <wickedpuppy> wow ... how were you running fluxbox ?
[09:53] <deadly_venom> Where is the kernel-build (just curious) location ?
[09:54] <KEA0463> i installed it from the terminal
[09:54] <KEA0463> now how do i start it
[09:54] <patbam> Ademan: maybe you were thinking of java ;)
[09:54] <Evil> i have lot of space harisund but i really want to get a pure fluxbuntu with no more applications that i would never run
[09:54] <daviey> deadley venom "linkname also includes path ie /home/test/linktotest
[09:54] <daviey> startflux
[09:54] <daviey> i think
[09:54] <wickedpuppy> KEA0463, i know how how were you trying to run it ... oh log out .. at the log in screen change the section to fluxbox
[09:54] <Ademan> patbam: the longest thing i've ever written took about a minute to compile...
[09:54] <Ademan> << n00b
[09:54] <harisund> Evil: ok. Either way the page I linked you to earlier should be fine.
[09:54] <gzevspero> djuuss: how do I run gparted through gksu?
[09:54] <Ademan> about 6000 lines of code
[09:55] <KEA0463> at the login screen?
[09:55] <Evil> thanks harisund :)
[09:55] <wickedpuppy> djuuss, you are here too .. boy i sure got lots of friends
[09:55] <patbam> Ademan: if you're a newb, i'm an oobernoob, because i stay away from any language that needs a compiler :)
[09:55] <KEA0463> were will i see it
[09:55] <djuuss> gzevspero, alt+f2, gksu gparted
[09:55] <deadly_venom> DaveyJ so, it would be --> ln -s /from/location/of/kernel/build /lib/module/$(uname -r)/build .. correct?
[09:55] <harisund> patbam: I wonder who I am, since I stay away from any language except English :)
[09:55] <wickedpuppy> KEA0463, yes .. look for session there aren't many words there ..
[09:55] <Ademan> patbam: hah, take the time to learn c or c++, they're important you know...  python is great too though, i'm starting to learn python cause its very powerful
[09:55] <wickedpuppy> KEA0463, look bottom left
[09:56] <KEA0463> ok illl giver er a go
[09:56] <patbam> Ademan: c++ and i had a very unloving and disastrous love affair
[09:56] <KEA0463> or i could type startflux right
[09:56] <Ademan> i still don't like a lot of "features" though, like how tabs work, (you have to tab in functions and whatnot)
[09:56] <harisund> patbam: Ademan continuing our discussion, I see a lot of gcc -pthread lines... what does the -pthread do while running gcc?
[09:56] <KEA0463> alt=f2
[09:56] <wickedpuppy> KEA0463, yes if you are not in X ...
[09:56] <djuuss> wickedpuppy, dude, IRC = internal relations console. Ergo, i'm your imaginary friend.
[09:56] <Ademan> harisund: pthread = posix thread
[09:56] <Ademan> multitasking
[09:56] <Ademan> or multithreading rather
[09:56] <harisund> Ademan: oh! I remember that word from my Operating Systems class!
[09:56] <wickedpuppy> LOL
[09:56] <KEA0463> is x the gui iam looking at
[09:57] <KEA0463> that says ubuntu
[09:57] <Ademan> patbam: what happened? lol
[09:57] <wickedpuppy> KEA0463, have you logged out yet ?
[09:57] <patbam> Ademan: i went screaming back to my scripting languages :)
[09:57] <KEA0463> not yet
[09:57] <deadly_venom> is VFAT = FAT32 ?
[09:57] <djuuss> it was still love tho, righ patbam?
[09:57] <patbam> harisund: still building?
[09:57] <Ademan> patbam: the concept of variable type? haha
[09:57] <wickedpuppy> KEA0463, then pls do .. if you realllly can't see session pls come back and ask us
[09:57] <djuuss> deadly _venom, yes
[09:57] <patbam> djuuss: love, in the sense of "the way a mouse loves a cat"
[09:58] <harisund> patbam: no.. running checkinstall now .. but I see a lot of "no such file or directory" lines.. think that is ok?
[09:58] <KEA0463> ok
[09:58] <harisund> patbam: having a look .. hang on..
[09:58] <djuuss> patbam, hey that sounds like me and my girlfriend
[09:58] <matti> Morning.
[09:58] <Ademan> i wonder how much the linux users with significant others : linux users without  has changed since the release of dapper :-p
[09:59] <bitwiseshiftleft> hello, i have a couple questions on ubuntu
[09:59] <daviey> Hi,  I have dependency issue.  Can't find "linux-libc-dev" (for i386)  Any help appreciated
[09:59] <djuuss> depends ademan, does dapper run world of warcraft?
[09:59] <Ademan> hehe, with wine it does!
[09:59] <patbam> Ademan: i'm firmly in the latter group O.o
[10:00] <Ademan> i'm engaged O.o
[10:00] <Ademan> or soon to be anyways
[10:00] <Ademan> in the proccess of finding a ring
[10:00] <djuuss> :O you havent asked her yet?
[10:00] <djuuss> and, is a loopback enough of a ring?
[10:00] <Ademan> hahahhah
[10:00] <patbam> Ademan: try a frootloops box :)
[10:00] <Phlosten> a keyring perhaps?
[10:01] <Ademan> i gave her a ring i made out of paper, it didn't satisfy her though...
[10:01] <Phlosten> just give an IOU note
[10:01] <pwk> hi
[10:01] <djuuss> well you could at least have used actual paper, not toilet paper
[10:01] <daviey> give her a toekn ring network in your house
[10:01] <harisund> patbam: did you see a whole lot of "No such file or directory" messages
[10:01] <patbam> you could give her your pgp public key... and tell her to get her own key ring
[10:01] <Ademan> yeah, especially not used tp...
[10:01] <bitwiseshiftleft> i custom compiled a 2.6.18 kernel.  it definitely has my chipset and fs drivers, because i could boot with it.  but after i upgraded to the latest edgy bits, it doesn't boot, citing "cannot boot from unknown(0,0)" as if it had no fs drivers
[10:01] <patbam> harisund: yeah :-/
[10:01] <pwk> i'm having a hard time deicidng which version of linux to install.. kde or gnome ?
[10:01] <harisund> patbam: hmm ... ok give me a couple more minutes
[10:01] <Ademan> GNOME
[10:02] <djuuss> KDE
[10:02] <deadly_venom> pwk gnome
[10:02] <Ademan> and its a desktop environment, not the type of linux
[10:02] <bitwiseshiftleft> i can boot under 2.6.17-ubuntu, but it panics half the time on boot, and i can't read the panic message, because it scrolls backtraces off the screen
[10:02] <Phlosten> go the gnome
[10:02] <djuuss>  /cast FlameShield lvl 2
[10:02] <daviey> pwk: both, test drive them
[10:02] <bitwiseshiftleft> after it boots, it's rock-solid
[10:02] <pwk> whcich one is easiest for a newbie?
[10:02] <Phlosten> run them all
[10:02] <bitwiseshiftleft> any ideas how to fix?
[10:02] <deadly_venom> pwk gnome
[10:02] <djuuss> pwk: KDE
[10:02] <O2> apt-get install g++   =    apt-get install build-essential!!!
[10:02] <deadly_venom> :-P
[10:02] <O2> apt-get install g++   =    apt-get install build-essential!!!
[10:02] <pwk> whats difference ?
[10:02] <Ademan> pwk: everyone has their own opinion, just try both
[10:02] <Ademan> style, look and feel, etc
[10:02] <wickedpuppy> O2, no ... build-essential install more than g++ ...
[10:02] <tonyyarusso> pwk: Gnome is simple.  KDE looks more like Windows.  (I'll second that, try both)
[10:03] <O2> who can tell me.
[10:03] <Ademan> a lot of people say GNOME is more stable, which I agree with
[10:03] <pwk> but they same just different setup ?
[10:03] <BlueEagle> pwk: The only real answer would be to try each one out for yourself and see what you like. You can have both installed and choose which one to use when you log in.
[10:03] <Ademan> plus Adept blows
[10:03] <Phlosten> Ademan: agreed
[10:03] <tonyyarusso> pwk: Same in that they're both Ubuntu.
[10:03] <O2> oh, maybe
[10:03] <Phlosten> adept is inept
[10:03] <pwk> so, i got the gmome cd to install
[10:03] <BlueEagle> pwk: To do this you simply install kubuntu-desktop after installing ubuntu (or ubuntu-desktop after installing kubuntu) and then you're free to choose.
[10:03] <harisund> patbam: kind of painful ... . a couple of things..
[10:03] <BlueEagle> *flameshield lvl 2 terminated*
[10:03] <pwk> i can install it, then like downalod a pack via terminal
[10:03] <Nub> Hi
[10:03] <tonyyarusso> pwk: You can also customize each beyond recognition (for instance, I have a URL for a guide on making Gnome look like OS X)
[10:03] <Ademan> pwk: then install the GNOME cd, then try KDE later if you're not satisfied
[10:03] <BlueEagle> pwk: That is correct.
[10:04] <pwk> and then i can switch between them both ?
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> pwk: Yep
[10:04] <patbam> harisund: pain builds character :)
[10:04] <daviey> apt-get install build-essentials: build-essential: Depends: (Unmet libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or libc-dev Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.0) but it is not going to be installed
[10:04] <harisund> patbam: first hte documentation says if you want to retain your previous version of python, do a make altinstall and not a make install.
[10:04] <BlueEagle> pwk: That was what I said. :)
[10:04] <pwk> ok
[10:04] <pwk> cause i need to learn linux
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> pwk: I once had a dozen different environments installed at once for kicks.  'tis fun
[10:04] <djuuss> Hmm, i wanna learn Python.. where do i start?
[10:04] <Ademan> BlueEagle: you put down your flameshield too soon!!! GNOME RULES KDE DROOLS!!!!
[10:04] <patbam> harisund: so, "sudo checkinstall make altinstall"?
[10:04] <pwk> i got windows vista and xp on now
[10:04] <Ademan> lol
[10:04] <[Nige] > hi all
[10:04] <Nub> I have a question about edgy, if I download and install the beta today, will I have to download the final version again?
[10:04] <patbam> djuuss: have you programmed before?
[10:04] <pwk> i can use acronics boot loader ?
[10:04] <Madpilot> daviey, sounds like there's something wrong with your sources.list if you're getting that sort of error
[10:04] <Nub> Or will it be upgraded automatically bu ubuntu?
[10:04] <wickedpuppy> Nub, no you update way
[10:04] <harisund> patbam: now that's what I tried. But it crapped out too. So I just tried make altinstall and it works.
[10:05] <djuuss> if playing mindgames on 4 yr olds to turn them into murderous rapists counts, yes
[10:05] <tonyyarusso> !python
[10:05] <Ademan> Nub: i don't reccomend installing the beta either way, just wait for release
[10:05] <Nub> wickedpuppy: oh goodie, thanks.
[10:05] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 125 kB, installed size 532 kB
[10:05] <wickedpuppy> Nub, you got to update ...
[10:05] <daviey> madpilot: doh, how can i re-create my sources.list
[10:05] <tonyyarusso> Bah.
[10:05] <BlueEagle> ademan: I put it down because any flames to come after that explination was just a show of immaturity and all but you got it. ;)
[10:05] <Madpilot> daviey, just a second
[10:05] <Nub> Ademan: Wireless doesn't work in dapper, been trying for over a week now :(
[10:05] <deadly_venom> Nub tried ndiswrapper/madwifi ?
[10:05] <Nub> Ademan: the best advice on forums till now has been to install edgy
[10:05] <Ademan> Nub: ?!?! mine worked flawlessly... what card?
[10:05] <harisund> patbam: I am now trying to figure out a way to get it to work with checkinstall... let's see..
[10:05] <patbam> harisund: could you do a favor and do $ python2.5 ; and then at the prompt do >>> import sqlite3 ?
[10:06] <wickedpuppy> Nub, actually if it doesn't work in dapper ... i doubt it will work in edgy
[10:06] <Nub> deadly_venom: yeah, ndiswrapper brings me to some kind of a prompt that says, "DB"
[10:06] <pwk> so, all i need now is help on howto setup the bootloaders,
[10:06] <Ademan> not only that my card is an obscure integrated card as part of an obscure brand of laptop...
[10:06] <Nub> Ademan: BCM4310
[10:06] <daviey> Madpilot: i tried to install it from search for the depenendant deb's but one wasn't avaliable on the http: rep index
[10:06] <djuuss> patbam, no, i havent :P
[10:06] <pwk> i got vist'a bootloader now to dual boot xp/ vista
[10:06] <Ademan> grub uber alles!
[10:06] <Madpilot> daviey, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic - but how did you mess up your sources in the first place?
[10:06] <pwk> will linux destroy vist'a loader ?
[10:06] <djuuss> lilo!
[10:06] <Ademan> pwk: yes, if you want it to
[10:06] <Nub> Ademan: atleast thats what lspci says
[10:07] <pwk> i want vista, xp, mac os x, and ubuntu on
[10:07] <Ademan> pwk: and i would definitely want it to... GRUB is far better
[10:07] <daviey> probably automatix or adding own repos
[10:07] <Nub> wickedpuppy: i'd rather try because a laptop without wireless is pretty useless :p
[10:07] <djuuss> kde > grub
[10:07] <pwk> would grub boot vista ?
[10:07] <wickedpuppy> daviey, pls do not recommend automatix here
[10:07] <djuuss> pwk, yes
[10:07] <pwk> k
[10:07] <wickedpuppy> Nub, of course there is nothing wrong with trying :P
[10:07] <pwk> so i'll install mac now,.. then ubntu
[10:07] <Ademan> djuuss: huh? kde is a desktop environment, grub is a bootloader....
[10:07] <daviey> wickedpuppy: i wasn't - infact i was doing the opposite!!
[10:07] <Madpilot> daviey, automatix is a wonderful way to break your Ubuntu. It's best avoided.
[10:07] <pwk> and grub should pick up all os's ?
[10:08] <Ademan> pwk: yep, its a multiboot loader
[10:08] <Nub> Plus, people have been saying rave things about edgy, i really want to see if its any faster
[10:08] <Ademan> grand universal boot loader = GRUB
[10:08] <djuuss> ademan, so? Beer > Toilet Paper
[10:08] <pwk> k, i hope so
[10:08] <pwk> cause i need to boot vista
[10:08] <pwk> thanks guys
[10:08] <Ademan> djuuss: poop > pee?
[10:08] <pwk> guys its parttioning time
[10:08] <pwk> 4 os's to install
[10:08] <djuuss> those are too related for it to make sense
[10:08] <Ademan> hrm
[10:09] <Ademan> apples > 5
[10:09] <djuuss> depends on the amount of apples
[10:09] <djuuss> heres one for you, what is the complete opposite of 'rubber band'
[10:09] <Ademan> iron ball?
[10:10] <wickedpuppy> what about penguins > apples > windows ?
[10:10] <Ademan> agreed
[10:10] <Madpilot> Folks, #ubuntu-offtopic is over there ---->
[10:10] <djuuss> no its not, thats where the client list is
[10:10] <bitwiseshiftleft> anyone in here know how to get openssl hardware accel on a via chip?
[10:11] <Ademan> <--- over there is where my channel list is
[10:11] <djuuss> my server list <------
[10:11] <POVaddct> [x]  <-- nail here for a new monitor
[10:11] <djuuss> wait, and channels too
[10:11] <Ademan> djuuss: xchat-gnome ? :-)
[10:12] <djuuss> ewwwww gnome. On topic: Where do i set custom gamma/contrast/brightness values for my x server?
[10:12] <Madpilot> Ademan, the mods here lurk. It's more fun that way.
[10:12] <daviey> hmm, okay - i created a new sources.list from the link provided but still get.    build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or
[10:12] <daviey>                             libc-dev
[10:12] <daviey>                    Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.0) but it is not going to be installed
[10:13] <Ademan> lol
[10:13] <Ademan> owned
[10:13] <neil_d> I am trying to get ruby to work with the gtk2 module, but all I get are a lot of error messages, can someone help?
[10:13] <Ademan> daviey: sudo apt-get install g++
[10:13] <POVaddct> daviey: here libc6-dev depends only on libc6 and linux-kernel-headers
[10:14] <daviey> ademan: as you said = g++: Depends: g++-4.0 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed
[10:14] <Ademan> neil_d: paste your errors at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:14] <POVaddct> daviey: are you running dapper?
[10:14] <daviey> i am running dapper
[10:14] <Ademan> daviey: wierd... make sure nothing in your sources.list says breezy ok?
[10:14] <POVaddct> daviey: i run dapper too by here i don't have a dependency against g++
[10:15] <POVaddct> s/by/but
[10:15] <daviey> nothing saying breezy in source'
[10:15] <Ademan> k
[10:15] <Ademan> try manually installing g++-4.0 ?
[10:15] <djuuss> then try for sarge, woody, and hoary
[10:15] <Ademan> eh? sarge is debian...
[10:15] <wickedpuppy> why not just ask him to paste us the sources.list ?
[10:16] <boink> !pastebin
[10:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:16] <djuuss> yeh,,, daviey post  your sources.list there
[10:16] <POVaddct> djuuss: no!
[10:16] <deadly_venom> !kernel
[10:16] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:16] <neil_d> Ademan: I pasted the code and errors to 'http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26049/'
[10:16] <Ackeubu_> whats the curretn gcc compiler version?
[10:16] <Ackeubu_> !gcc
[10:16] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:17] <daviey> my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26050/
[10:17] <djuuss> POVaddct: no what?
[10:17] <wickedpuppy> Ackeubu_, gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)
[10:18] <POVaddct> djuuss: files like sources.list shouldn't be pasted here. better use pastebin.
[10:18] <Ackeubu_> wickedpuppy: someone was murmeling about gcc 5. hes out of it?
[10:18] <deadly_venom> !smp
[10:18] <wickedpuppy> ?
[10:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:18] <Ademan> neil_d: and i assume you have the ruby bindings for gtk installed right?
[10:18] <djuuss> POVaddct, i said 'post it there' by there meaning paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:18] <Madpilot> daviey, that looks fine, I don't know why you're getting errors
[10:18] <POVaddct> djuuss: ah okay
[10:18] <wickedpuppy> Ackeubu_, you want to know about latest gcc version or latest gcc version in the repo ?
[10:19] <Madpilot> !info gcc
[10:19] <ubotu> gcc: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.0.3-1 (dapper), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB
[10:20] <Ademan> gtg to sleep, speech tomorow
[10:20] <Ademan> night all
[10:20] <Schalken> does anyone have the valid md5sum for the kubuntu 6.06 iso?
[10:20] <KenSentMe> Ademan: good night
[10:20] <daviey> Okay, get this: unmnet dependency libc6.  So ap' install libc6 = already latest version
[10:21] <Daverocks> hey, i'm having trouble getting my wg111v2 netgear wireless usb adapter working on ubuntu 6.06 with ndiswrapper
[10:21] <neil_d> Ademan: I have the libgtk2-ruby package installed.
[10:21] <Daverocks> i've gotten to the point where "ndiswrapper -l" says "driver present, hardware present"
[10:22] <Daverocks> but even when i say "modprobe ndiswrapper", the light on the device doesn't come on (which many wg111 tutorial things said it should) and i don't have any wireless interface under ifconfig
[10:25] <POVaddct> Daverocks: you meant iwconfig?
[10:25] <tamacracker> hey guys?...
[10:26] <tamacracker> How do I get my bit torrent to start?...
[10:26] <Daverocks> POVaddct: it doesn't show in either ifconfig or iwconfig
[10:26] <tamacracker> It used to start but another torrent client is actin as the default
[10:26] <harisund> There's a package in the edgy repos that I want. How do I get it?
[10:26] <daviey> hmm.  Think i'm getting to the crook of it:  install libc6-dev:
[10:26] <daviey>   Depends: libc6 (=2.3.6-0ubuntu20) but 2.4-1ubuntu11 is to be installed
[10:26] <Daverocks> POVaddct: in iwconfig, no interfaces support wireless because there is no wireless interface corresponding to the adapter there
[10:26] <POVaddct> Daverocks: any error messages in dmegs after modprobe ndiswrapper?
[10:26] <Daverocks> POVaddct: i'll check
[10:27] <hummel> i.  i recently installed ubuntu 6.0.6 and i'm having some trouble installing the libgtk2.0-dev packages...
[10:27] <deadly_venom> you can install it without depencies, but i don't know how, sorry.
[10:28] <POVaddct> Daverocks: dapper doesnt have glibc 2.4. your sources.list is f***ed up
[10:28] <hummel> Daverocks, hmmm what do you mean?
[10:28] <Daverocks> POVaddct: wrong person :P
[10:28] <hummel> oh
[10:28] <POVaddct> oops
[10:28] <Daverocks> POVaddct: and it works now
[10:28] <POVaddct> daviey: dapper doesnt have glibc 2.4. your sources.list is f***ed up
[10:28] <harisund> How do I install a package presesnt in the edgy repos into Dapper?
[10:28] <Daverocks> POVaddct: even though i did "modprobe -r ndiswrapper; modprobe ndiswrapper" before, i just did it again now, and it works xD
[10:29] <Daverocks> ty :P
[10:29] <daviey> POVaddict: i manully installed it a while ago!  however, i cannot remove it as the whole system is depenendant on it
[10:29] <POVaddct> Daverocks: strange :)
[10:29] <Daverocks> POVaddct: yeah, i just hope it stays working
[10:29] <daviey> i need to roll back to a previous release
[10:29] <POVaddct> daviey: why did you install that glibc version anyway?
[10:30] <daviey> POVaddct, it was a dependancy for another package
[10:30] <POVaddct> Daverocks: i try not to buy wifi hardware that requires ndiswrapper
[10:30] <Daverocks> POVaddct: yeah, on this laptop i have ipw2200 which is nice because it's native
[10:31] <POVaddct> daviey: but that package was certainly not from the ubuntu repos
[10:31] <[Nige] > anyone know how to get the wireless to start on notebooks without using the fn keys?
[10:31] <Daverocks> POVaddct: but i had this old adapter lying around and i needed it, so yeah :P
[10:31] <daviey> POVaddct,  it wasn't
[10:31] <POVaddct> daviey: that is the problem
[10:32] <Daverocks> [Nige] : it depends on the notebook, but if the fn keys are required to turn the adapter on, then you need to use them
[10:32] <neil_d> Ademan: any ideas
[10:32] <Daverocks> [Nige] : there's often a setting in the BIOS which determines the state of the wireless card on boot
[10:32] <[Nige] > Daverocks, , yer I want it to be turned perminately at boot
[10:32] <[Nige] > I looked i didnt seen anyting in the bios
[10:32] <POVaddct> Daverocks: fortunately my usb wifi stick has ralink chipset, running native with rt2570 module
[10:33] <Ackeubu_> wickedpuppy: latest general
[10:33] <Daverocks> [Nige] : so what happens usually is you need to use the fn keys to turn the wireless card on after boot, then it works?
[10:33] <[Nige] > yep
[10:33] <tamacracker> can anyone tell me where i can locate the executable icon to strt up my bit torrent?
[10:33] <Daverocks> POVaddct: heh lucky, but i didn't know about linux when i bought this adapter ages ago :P
[10:34] <Ackeubu_> tamacracker: write bittorrent in terminal
[10:34] <wickedpuppy> Ackeubu_, i think you saw it right ?
[10:34] <[Nige] > it needs the fn keys pressed to start the wireless. I know its petty to want to have it work without it but i would rather have it boot with the wireless on
[10:34] <daviey> tamacracker, execuatbel icon.  do you mean to make it look pretty?  or some other functional reason?
[10:34] <Ackeubu_> wickedpuppy: i think so thanks
[10:34] <Daverocks> [Nige] : yeah... it must be annoying
[10:34] <tamacracker> i can't find the "file" (normally an icon) that i can double click to start up the program
[10:34] <Daverocks> [Nige] : what notebook model do you have?
[10:34] <[Nige] > yer it is :P\
[10:34] <[Nige] > joybook 5000
[10:34] <[Nige] > its becomming my media pc
[10:35] <daviey> so how can i roll back to a version of deb without removeing the the dependancy's between apt-get remove/install
[10:35] <neil_d> tamacracker: you need to turn it on using the menu editor.
[10:36] <Daverocks> [Nige] : that's kind of weird
[10:37] <[Nige] > Daverocks, i know.l..
[10:37] <Daverocks> [Nige] : usually most notebooks by default remember the last state of the wifi card
[10:37] <[Nige] > hmm okay
[10:37] <[Nige] > I might try that again. and see what it does
[10:37] <Daverocks> [Nige] : i don't know, maybe try looking more in the bios
[10:38] <[Nige] > yer I will
[10:38] <[Nige] > bbs
[10:38] <Daverocks> [Nige] : but i can't really help you further, sorry =(
[10:38] <Daverocks> k
[10:38] <tamacracker> oh ok neil_d gonna check it out righ tnow
[10:38] <Daverocks> bbl
[10:41] <neil_d> Ademan: I pasted the code and errors to 'http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26049/' I have the libgtk2-ruby package installed.
[10:41] <rodrigosg> lalal
[10:41] <tamacracker> neil_d it should be under System > Preferences > Toolbars & Menu right?
[10:42] <neil_d> tamacracker: Applications->Accessories->Alacarte Menu Editor
[10:43] <tonyyarusso> Where can I get a stand like this?:  http://ubuntu.sange.fi/ubuntu-cd-teline.png
[10:44] <tamacracker> LOL
[10:44] <tamacracker> thanks neil
[10:44] <tamacracker> i looked at that and didn't notice it :x
[10:44] <daviey> for those that may be interested in how to downgrade a package with huge dependency's: sudo dpkg --force-downgrade -i xxx.deb
[10:44] <deadly_venom> !init
[10:44] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[10:45] <peace-keeper> hi could you please un-ban me? i'm sorry for saying bad things in here :D
[10:45] <neil_d> I am trying to get ruby to work with the gtk2 module, but all I get are a lot of error messages, can someone help?  The code and errors are on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26049/ the libgtk2-ruby.
[10:48] <tamacracker> neil_d does revert mean set as default? or "apply" >.>
[10:48] <anilomkar> how to install flash player for swiftfox
[10:48] <deadly_venom> neil_d do you have gtk2 ?
[10:48] <neil_d> tamacracker: you want to apply the change.
[10:49] <tamacracker> neil_d :( there's no apply to click on.. just revert and close
[10:49] <YogSothoth> Hi
[10:49] <tiny> Hi! I need to decide what kind of ubuntu to install. Desktop vs Server. I will need features from both on my lappie. So I guess I'm wondering how sharp the line between those two is? Can desktop install packages that are on server and vice versa?
[10:50] <neil_d> deadly_venom: the libgtk2-ruby package is installed, the script does say it can find it, it says it is haveing trouble with the line that requires the gtk2.
[10:50] <YogSothoth> I have a "Kodak EasyShare printer dock series 3" photo printer. Anything special to use it with Ubuntu?
[10:50] <kuja> neil_d: Yes
[10:50] <Riot777> tinn: desktop
[10:50] <kuja> err
[10:50] <neil_d> tamacracker: then close it and see if its in the menu.
[10:50] <kuja> tiny*
[10:50] <Riot777> tiny: desktop
[10:51] <tamacracker> neil_d you my friend... are good.
[10:51] <tamacracker> You're good you!
[10:52] <AbortD> anyone know how to setup dual monitors with dual vid cards?
[10:52] <jaakkos> is this the right place to ask an XGL-question, or is there a support channel for it?
[10:52] <kenny_> try
[10:52] <kuja> neil_d: What sort of trouble?
[10:53] <tamacracker> thanks again neil_d
[10:53] <anilomkar> how to install flashplayer for Swiftfox Please help me
[10:53] <deadly_venom> anilomkar -> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:54] <neil_d> kuja: I am having trouble with ruby and gtk see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26049/
[10:55] <tiny> What else do I get on DVD image?  Can't find info on diferences between CD and DVD.
[10:55] <kuja> neil_d: Try changing your theme.
[10:55] <anilomkar> deadly_venom, I installed flashplugin-nonfree but it is not working
[10:55] <Draco> I am trying to run x-cd-roast for the first time and its telling me it has to be run by super-user first ?
[10:56] <jaakkos> is this the right place to ask an XGL-question, or is there a support channel for it?
[10:56] <anilomkar> deadly_venom, when i open website it is displaying "install missing plugin"
[10:57] <KEA0463> ok i got flujxbox working
[10:57] <mesut> hi, does aiglx packages for dapper-ppc exist ?
[10:57] <KEA0463> how do i get the graphs to show
[10:57] <neil_d> kuja: I am using the default theme, what one do you sugjest.
[10:57] <KEA0463> the system stuff on fluxbox
[10:57] <kuja> neil_d: Hm, the default Human? That one doesn't work? I had a problem like this before, I forget how I solved it.
[10:58] <KEA0463> the number charts
[10:58] <kuja> neil_d: Ah wait.
[10:58] <kuja> neil_d: You don't have a Gtk.init
[10:58] <kuja> You must always have a Gtk.init and a Gtk.main around the part where you show your application.
[10:58] <AbortD> anyone know how to setup dual monitors with dual vid cards?
[10:59] <neil_d> kuja: it is a direct copy from a web-page.
[10:59] <kuja> neil_d: Then the web page just forgot to include a Gtk.init
[10:59] <kuja> neil_d: The Ruby-GNOME2 docs have many typos, just in case you haven't noticed.
[10:59] <KEA0463> i have a question
[10:59] <KEA0463> in fluxbox
[10:59] <neil_d> kuja: oh great.
[11:00] <kuja> It is best to read the C GTK docs.
[11:00] <KEA0463> how do i get those scientific looking computer charrts
[11:00] <KEA0463> running
[11:00] <kuja> Or the Python GTK docs...
[11:00] <mart1> hi there ... how do I recognize my wireless card with lspci ?
[11:00] <SeraVitae>  hey guys, my ubuntu box, i left it running over night, woke it up this morning and it was totally hung.
[11:00] <SeraVitae> anywhere i can check what's going on?
[11:01] <SeraVitae> ...actually, it just hung again then. harddrive spun down, ubuntu responsive for about another 4 seconds. can't alt to a TTY.
[11:01] <kuja> Harddrive failure, perhaps.
[11:01] <SeraVitae> perhaps
[11:01] <SeraVitae> any programs i can use to check it?
[11:02] <kuja> fsck to check your filesystem, maybe
[11:02] <neil_d> kuja: line 12 "gtk.init" got the error message "hello.rb:12: undefined local variable or method `gtk' for main:Object (NameError)"
[11:02] <kuja> neil_d: Gtk.init, I've been saying "Gtk.init", I never said "gtk.init"
[11:02] <kuja> Gtk is a constant, not a variable named "gtk"
[11:02] <SeraVitae> yeah i just booted up again and the harddrive (well one of them) went a bit bonkers.
[11:02] <Marlun> how do I make a file executable?
[11:03] <kuja> Marlun: chmod +x file
[11:03] <mart1> hey guys: how do I know my wireless card, and get it into work??
[11:03] <RyEINic> chmod a+x
[11:03] <boink> martl: depends on what chipset it's using
[11:03] <boink> !wireless
[11:03] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:03] <neil_d> kuja: thanks that got it to go.
[11:03] <mart1> jejj
[11:03] <mart1> i'll see that odc, thanks boink
[11:03] <mesut> is there any ppc channel of ubuntu ?
[11:05] <Marlun> kuja: thanks!
[11:05] <kuja> np
[11:09] <gandolfthewizard> hi can someone help me please
[11:11] <tiny> What are the differences between CD and DVD install isos? Does DVD include all packages while CD only selected and the rest in installed over net?
[11:11] <tiny> *is
[11:12] <oskude> tiny: i doubt the dvd has _all_ packages... i think just more than the cd...
[11:12] <gandolfthewizard> dvd has more space on them
[11:12] <tiny> o:
[11:12] <harm_> I cant seem to boot into my Xubuntu system, its hangs after its sayd ... Ok, booting the kernel
[11:13] <gandolfthewizard> but if the program is the same and it can fit on a cd then it could be the same program or if there are multipal cd they may have combinded them to fit on one dvd
[11:13] <Shadowpillar> did you upgrade the kernel?
[11:13] <Shadowpillar> and that happen?
[11:13] <gandolfthewizard> nope
[11:13] <Shadowpillar> or is it doing it off the bat?
[11:13] <gandolfthewizard> i have ubuntu
[11:13] <tiny> harm_: you sure your grub/lilo is setup properly?
[11:14] <gandolfthewizard> i've been trying to get the java pilug in to wor kbut i have not been able to
[11:14] <woekele> is mesa gl support in ubuntu by default?
[11:15] <harm_> Shadowpillar well yesterday i installed server 6.06 > then Xubuntu > easyubuntu
[11:16] <harm_> Shadowpillar and it was working fine yesterday
[11:16] <harm_> tiny well it worked yesterday and i didnt touch grub or lilo
[11:16] <tiny> harm_: yesterday .. hm yeah and you prolly rebooted today ... something happened in between
[11:17] <Shadowpillar> harm_: what are your kernel choices on the bootloader (try pressing esc on start)
[11:18] <dennda> hi. did anyone succesfully install a lexmark z45 printer?
[11:18] <Shadowpillar> easybuntu might have messed things up
[11:18] <harm_> Shadowpillar should i reinstall grub via a live CD?
[11:19] <harm_> Shadowpillar kernel options > Ubuntu Kernel 2.6.15-27-k7 then same + recovery mode then 2.6.15-26server + recovery and a memtest86
[11:20] <Shadowpillar> no
[11:20] <woekele> dennda, did you check http://www.linuxprinting.org/ ?
[11:20] <woekele> they have lots of info about printers in Linux
[11:21] <woekele> although it seems your printer is not listed there
[11:21] <dennda> woekele yes i did. but unfortunately the printer is not listed there
[11:21] <woekele> :{
[11:21] <Shadowpillar> harisund: try the recovery mode kernel
[11:21] <Shadowpillar> harisund: better yet
[11:21] <Shadowpillar> try the server kernel to see if it boots
[11:21] <Shadowpillar> harisund: : better yet
[11:21] <harm_> shadowpillar harm :)
 thats why linux comes with a gui
[11:21] <pohwom> lol ^
[11:22] <Shadowpillar> .....
[11:22] <Shadowpillar> damndsfkjhdsljfdsfds
[11:22] <harm_> =] 
[11:22] <Shadowpillar> harm_:  better yet
[11:22] <harm_> Shadowpillar iam trying to  boot server kernel now
[11:22] <harm_> shadownpillar and that seems to work :)
[11:22] <woekele> dennda, you seem to have bad luck with that printer: http://lists.freestandards.org/pipermail/printing-user-lexmark/2003/001743.html
[11:22] <tiny> harm_: One possible cause is that ACPI is not working correctly but is enabled in the kernel. Try to disable it in your bios or in your kernel.
[11:23] <harm_> tiny iam not that good w. linux could u wiki me or walk me through that?
[11:24] <harm_> tiny_ and shadowpillar iam in my desktop now.. and everything looks fine
[11:25] <woekele> does anyone know if mesa gl support in ubuntu by default?
[11:26] <pulltab> Hi, can someone please help me configure mail()?  I have read up on using it, but don't know how to go about debugging/knowing why it wont send mail
[11:27] <nold222> hi...
[11:28] <tiny> pulltab: you mean mail.1 ? As in mail command line program?
[11:28] <woekele> lo
[11:28] <pulltab> I suppose so, tiny
[11:28] <pulltab> i was going to use postfix
[11:29] <Daverocks> pulltab: you mean, you were going to use a mail server running postifx?
[11:29] <Daverocks> *postfix
[11:29] <tiny> pulltab: mail is a MUA ans postfix is MTA. You need to have MTA configured properly in order for MUA's to work
[11:29] <Daverocks> MUA = mail user agent, MTA = mail transfer agent
[11:29] <anilomkar> when i double click on the fat32 partition in Ubuntu that is displaying a error msg like "Unable to mount the selected volume"
[11:29] <tiny> known MUA's: mail, pine, mutt, mozilla mail ...
[11:30] <tiny> know MTAs: postfix, sendmail, exim ...
[11:30] <nold222> hi any can help me how to fix my internet
[11:31] <tiny> pulltab: configuring postfix for local mail delivery is easy ..follow the guide
[11:31] <Daverocks> nold222: it would be nice if you could be more specific... you can't ping anything, you can't access any webpages?
[11:32] <nold222> thanks daverocks,, no. once i leave my cpu for a cuople of time
[11:33] <nold222>  i use dhcp
[11:33] <Daverocks> nold222: can you still ping your gateway, etc?
[11:33] <pulltab> tiny: I think I wasn't specific enough, sorry.  I am trying to have the mail() function of php working with postfix?
[11:34] <kakalto> how do I change the clock on ubuntu? I've rather forgotten. daylight savings has just gone into effect for me
[11:34] <nold222> yes, but my dns had gone
[11:34] <wickedpuppy> pulltab, why not ask in #php ?
[11:34] <manni18> TZ 
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[11:34] <harm_> Spam
[11:34] <Flannel> kakalto: there's a time/date section in sy
[11:34] <manni18> \] ^__?] =T[=S5Q<1E /          *0      
[11:34] <wickedpuppy> !ops
[11:34] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[11:34] <manni18> @0:$
[11:34] <manni18> oh
[11:34] <wickedpuppy> thanks Madpilot
[11:34] <djuuss> haha
[11:34] <djuuss> owned
[11:34] <Daverocks> =)
[11:34] <Seveas> sigh, the versanet trolls moved to here now?
[11:34] <Khamael> was that gibberish for everyone?
[11:35] <nold222> yes
[11:35] <Daverocks> think so
[11:35] <Flannel> Seveas: not the first time... although not in a while
[11:35] <nold222> daverocks
[11:35] <harm_> Kgameal yes unless u have japense shit installed
[11:35] <Daverocks> nold222: yeah, i heard ya :P
[11:35] <tiny> Seveas: is versanet know for that?
[11:35] <Madpilot> someone claiming to be the Chancellor of Germany
[11:35] <Flannel> kakalto: time/date thing in system
[11:35] <tiny> *known
[11:35] <Daverocks> nold222: just a bit busy atm
[11:35] <Seveas> harm_, watch your language
[11:35] <nold222> ic
[11:35] <tiny> pulltab: sorry no skilz in php
[11:35] <Seveas> tiny, there are a fw german trolls using versanet.
[11:35] <tiny> I see
[11:36] <Daverocks> nold222: is your DNS settings in ubuntu the gateway, or an external DNS server?
[11:36] <tiny> pulltab: but you should first check if postfix is working ok. Then use php mail() function.
[11:36] <harm_> Seveas sorry :) slipped out
[11:36] <pulltab> tiny: is there an easy way to test that?
[11:36] <nold222> i dont know, just new to linus, it is given by our asp here
[11:37] <wickedpuppy> nold222, linus is a person ...
[11:37] <nold222> yup, c linux
[11:37] <tiny> pulltab: sure it is: $ mail person@domain
[11:37] <djuuss> !linus
[11:37] <tiny> and follow from there
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <tiny> pulltab: or read man mail
[11:37] <tiny> pulltab:  I'm sure you can test it with one-liner
[11:37] <pulltab> thanks tiny!
[11:38] <kakalto> Flannel: I mean from the CLI - I use ubuntu base, no GUI
[11:38] <tiny> pulltab: no prob
[11:38] <nold222> daverock
[11:38] <kakalto> (sorry slow reply, charas went a little weird there. bad input)
[11:38] <nold222> were u
[11:38] <nold222> bc
[11:38] <Daverocks> nold222: so "host google.com" or whatever just doesn't work?
[11:39] <Flannel> kakalto: tzconfig I believe is what you want.  since you don't really want to change your system time, only your offset
[11:39] <nold222> it work at all once i set from the biggining but once i left my cpu unused.
[11:39] <nold222> it disappear''
[11:40] <Daverocks> nold222: does ifdown/ifup-ing the interface fix it?
[11:41] <nold222> may i know, how do you set your internet. i dont know
[11:42] <kakalto> Flannel: cheers
[11:42] <Daverocks> nold222: type ifconfig
[11:42] <nold222> and then
[11:42] <kakalto> Flannel: but, if I'm on the edge, and I'm meant to end up @ GMT+13, what am I meant to do?
[11:42] <Daverocks> nold222: do you see an interface which is UP and has your internal IP?
[11:42] <mOrO^> does it ask me ...where do you want to go today?
[11:43] <Flannel> kakalto: There isn't a GMT+13?  or, maybe it's GMT+12 + DST
[11:43] <nold222> yah, i got it
[11:43] <Daverocks> nold222: what's it called? something like eth0, eth1?
[11:48] <Burn_> morning
[11:48] <Burn_> can somebody check this forum thread -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=273515
[11:48] <DennyCrane> Very funny, the calendar died and popped up the inform developer window, I chose that and to update bug buddy, which promptly crashed and asked me if I would like to use bug buddy to report the bugbuddy crash - all very amusing - so who has be porting microsoft code then...! ?
[11:51] <mwe> DennyCrane: please file a bug report manually anyway
[11:51] <Shadowpillar> Madpilot: it looked more like he accidently pasted his command prompt
[11:51] <Shadowpillar> Madpilot: ever cat'd something that turned your terminal into gibberish?
[11:52] <Madpilot> Shadowpillar, nope - I assume you're talking about the guy I kickbanned?
[11:52] <Shadowpillar> yeah
[11:52] <Shadowpillar> look like he copied what he catencated from a TZ file, you can see a command prompt thing in there
[11:53] <Madpilot> could be - I'll remove the ban in a while, before I sign off for the night
[11:53] <Shadowpillar> Madpilot: cat /usr/share/zoneinfo/CET
[11:53] <Shadowpillar> Madpilot: for example
[11:53] <Shadowpillar> watch what happens to your term
[11:53] <Shadowpillar> (type reset to fix it)
[11:54] <Madpilot> cool - what causes that?
[11:54] <Shadowpillar> I dont know
[11:54] <Shadowpillar> bash interpreting a command character wrong?
[11:54] <wickedpuppy> you can also cat binary files ? no ?
[11:54] <Shadowpillar> yep
[11:54] <Shadowpillar> just expect a ton of gibberish
[11:54] <wickedpuppy> i remember getting the same result that way before
[11:54] <kakalto> Flannel, dunno, looking
[11:55] <edgy> Hi, if I launched msyqld from the command line it can't be killed using Ctrl+C or hanged using Ctrl+Z, any reason for this?
[11:55] <Daverocks> it's like cat /dev/urandom ... but that's more out of control xD
[11:55] <Shadowpillar> strings will find text in a file
[11:55] <wickedpuppy> edgy, sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop
[11:56] <edgy> wickedpuppy: I want to kill it from the same window
[11:56] <wickedpuppy> edgy, yah you type it in same terminal
[11:56] <wickedpuppy> i don't remember mysql staying in the foreground while i run it ...
[11:56] <edgy> wickedpuppy: I started it like this: sudo mysqld  so now I don't have a prompt ($)
[11:56] <wickedpuppy> i always get back the prompt
[11:57] <edgy> wickedpuppy: this is for debugging purposes
[11:57] <wickedpuppy> ah well i can't help ya .. cause i don't start it that way .. i usually do sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[11:57] <tsw> what about sudo /etc/init.d/mysqld start?
[11:57] <mwe> edgy: you shouldn't start it like that
[11:57] <RyEINic> because it is a daemon, it is it's very nature to fork in to the background
[11:58] <wickedpuppy> i suppose kill or killall will do ...
[11:58] <mwe> edgy: and you want to type sudo <program>& to start it in the bagground to get back to the prompt
[11:58] <edgy> mwe, RyEINic: sendmail is a daemon too and it would respond to Ctrl+C
[11:59] <Seveas> edgy, to debug: ensable the most verbose logging and tail -f the logfile
[11:59] <edgy> Seveas: the issue is Ctrl+C _should_ be able to kill all programs that launched in the foreground why only mysqld is different
[11:59] <mwe> edgy: most daemons come with a startup file in /etc/init.d/ that you want to use to start it
[12:00] <Seveas> edgy, applications are free to ignore that signal
[12:00] <Seveas> and mysqld SHOULD not just be killed by it
[12:00] <edgy> Seveas: really? can you give an example of another app that did it?
[12:00] <Seveas> edgy, anything that has to store state before shutting down
[12:00] <mesut> anyone using ubuntu on powerpc ?
[12:01] <Seveas> !anyone > mesut
[12:01] <djuuss> !anyone
[12:01] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:01] <edgy> Seveas: store state? can you explain this please
[12:01] <Seveas> edgy, if mysql just quits, your database will likely become very inconsistent
[12:01] <Seveas> it will ahve to flush its buffers
[12:02] <edgy> Seveas: Ctrl+C sends SIGTERM not SIGKILL so it should be able to save the buffers,no?
[12:02] <Seveas> yes
[12:02] <Seveas> but that means it won't instantaneously quit
[12:03] <edgy> Seveas: I don't expect it to quit instantaneously but it should quit any way
[12:03] <edgy> Seveas: the situation now it doesn't
[12:03] <mwe> edgy: rcconf ignores ctrl-c as well
[12:04] <oskude> edgy: isnt that an issue you should be talking with the mysql people ? (or does this happen only on ubuntu)
[12:04] <wickedpuppy> edgy, why not ask it to mysql developers ?
[12:04] <Seveas> edgy, then read the mysql docs -- it probably has its reasons for ignoring TERM completely
[12:04] <nold222> my real problem is my dns, how
[12:04] <edgy> mwe: but rcconf is a curse application. I won't expect gui's to quit with it
[12:04] <mwe> you don't run mysqld like that anyway
[12:04] <nold222> daverocks
[12:05] <Daverocks> nold222: yes?
[12:05] <edgy> oskude, wickedpupp: i tried there but also no one can tell me and this gave me the impression it related to linux more than mysql ;)
[12:05] <mwe> edgy: anyway, like Seveas said programs are free to ignore the signal
[12:06] <nold222> huh,,sory, there is panic here, i tot our building got fire
[12:06] <wickedpuppy> edgy, then try it on other distros see if there is a same reaction ... if so then nope its the program ignoring the TERM so mysql developers should know this
[12:06] <nold222> daverock
[12:06] <Daverocks> nold222: yeesss, what is it?
[12:06] <kakalto> I can't change my timezone to GMT+13 (or GMT+12+DST
[12:07] <kakalto> )
[12:07] <XCTest> Hi all.
[12:07] <nold222> how cud i do that
[12:08] <RyEINic> it ignores keyboard input but a sigterm does kill it
[12:08] <Daverocks> nold222: have you tested dns with basic things like "host google.com"?
[12:08] <XCTest> Is possible to install xchat 2.6.6 on my ubuntu 5.10? This ubuntu runs on PowerBook G3...
[12:08] <nold222> yuh
[12:08] <hazexp_> yes
[12:08] <dennis-> hey folks
[12:09] <Daverocks> nold222: and that doesn't work?
[12:09] <dennis-> why does ls does not sort lexicographically? my dotfiles are intermingled with all other files instead of being on top of them. how do i change that?
[12:09] <XCTest> If yes, then where I can download the package of Xchar 2.6.6?
[12:09] <Madpilot> enough op spam ;)
[12:09] <nold222> yah, lyk this one,, now i left, i restating my internet b 4 i used again
[12:10] <edgy> wickedpuppy: yes you are right. if it's in all distros, I should ask them why mysql ignores the Ctrl-C signal as explained by Seveas
[12:10] <wickedpuppy> edgy, if you got the answer pls come back to tell us why .. thanks
[12:10] <manni18> p!m04msUHW!Pg;#}N/[PA= #w<=FTGk
[12:10] <manni18>                                                                        |vo_4h?Vy9xc,@n4OLf=[?T~    c%.LYVLJ;#6+6o1>\b{_mt2w(<
[12:10] <manni18> =iV3f~@hYs        qgp4|4swsEdix;WafPc
[12:10] <manni18>        i`] hTI;xLwo9a'o
[12:10] <XCTest> It's nice to see a Server without Chanserv... :)
[12:10] <manni18> 'HXtWO;zz-P(@Q
[12:10] <manni18>                                &2S
[12:10] <manni18> wtf is that?
[12:10] <manni18> i have that in my terminal
[12:10] <edgy> RyEINic: yes and that's what made it nonsense for me
[12:10] <manni18> and i cant read the other shit
[12:11] <manni18> how to fix?
[12:11] <Madpilot> manni18, do NOT paste here
[12:11] <Madpilot> !paste
[12:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:11] <manni18> ok
[12:11] <nold222> daverock
[12:11] <manni18> but what is it?
[12:11] <lazzareth> Gday folks Does anyone reccoment a good asus motherboard with atleast 6 sata; 2 ata; 1gbit nic; pci-e; supports socket 478 (amd athlon 64bit 3200+)   ? Linux firendly.. mine just died today :D
[12:11] <RyEINic> it's not meant to listen to anything you type though :)
[12:11] <nold222> can ask other one
[12:11] <XCTest> Can someone reply me pllease?
[12:11] <Daverocks> nold222: yes, sorry, i didn't understand what your last question was
[12:11] <lazzareth> 'recommend
[12:11] <dennis-> why does ls does not sort lexicographically? my dotfiles are intermingled with all other files instead of being on top of them. how do i change that?
[12:11] <Madpilot> XCTest, hmm?
[12:12] <Daverocks> nold222: have you got the name of the interface like i was asking before?
[12:12] <XCTest> Is possible to install xchat 2.6.6 on my ubuntu 5.10? This ubuntu runs on PowerBook G3...
[12:12] <XCTest> If yes, then where I can download the package of Xchar 2.6.6?
[12:12] <Madpilot> manni18, did you run 'cat' on something?
[12:12] <nold222> yuh
[12:12] <lazzareth> 'friendly
[12:12] <manni18> i did run cat /dev/random
[12:12] <manni18> why?
[12:12] <Daverocks> manni18: well, that's expected
[12:12] <hazexp_> XCTest: Do you have 'alien' installed?
[12:12] <Madpilot> manni18, that'll do it. type 'reset' to reset
[12:12] <hazexp_> because you can download the RPM from here: http://www.xchat.org/files/binary/rpm/
[12:12] <railz> does anyone know where to get suitable images for a skydome image for compiz?
[12:12] <manni18> but i dont want to reset
[12:12] <Madpilot> XCTest, Ubuntu 6.06.1 has XChat 2.6.1
[12:12] <nold222> daverocks can i ask your mail
[12:12] <hazexp_> then use alien to convert it to a DEB
[12:12] <timalot> why no changelogs in the update manager????
[12:13] <wickedpuppy> ?
[12:13] <Daverocks> nold222: sorry, don't give it out publicly
[12:13] <nold222> k
[12:13] <wickedpuppy> then what do you want manni18 ? if you do not want to fix it ...
[12:13] <manni18> i want another fix
[12:13] <XCTest> hazexp_, Madpilot I cant install ubuntu 6.06.1... It isnt for macs...
[12:13] <manni18> i got sensitive data there
[12:13] <nold222> cayote, can you help me how to insy=tall this
[12:13] <manni18> in my console
[12:13] <nold222> install
[12:14] <Madpilot> manni18, the fix *is* to type 'reset'
[12:14] <wickedpuppy> manni18, i don't think /dev/random output is sensitive
[12:14] <manni18> but i dont want to loose data
[12:14] <manni18> please
[12:14] <Madpilot> XCTest, there is a PPC version of 6.06.1...
[12:14] <manni18> i cant read it anymore
[12:14] <manni18> i got my password there
[12:14] <manni18> and stuff
[12:14] <Daverocks> manni18: the data that was on screen in your console?
[12:14] <manni18> yes
[12:14] <Madpilot> !enter
[12:14] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[12:15] <nold222> k
[12:15] <timalot> !nerd
[12:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nerd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:15] <hazexp_> XCTest: you don't need to install 6.06.1 to install 'alien'
[12:15] <nold222> cayote any help pls
[12:15] <nold222> daverock
[12:15] <hazexp_> which can be used to install XChat from this:
[12:15] <hazexp_> http://www.xchat.org/files/binary/rpm/
[12:15] <Daverocks> nold222: yes, did you try restarting the interface?
[12:15] <XCTest> hazexp_, what is alien please?
[12:15] <nold222> yup
[12:15] <edgy> wickedpuppy: sure
[12:15] <kakalto> how can I add an hour to my clock from the CLI?
[12:15] <Daverocks> nold222: and? still dns doesn't work?
[12:16] <kakalto> s/CLI/command line
[12:16] <edgy> dennis-: it ignores the dots
[12:16] <mesut> Seveas: i want to know if there is a ppc channel for ubuntu
[12:16] <Seveas> mesut, there is not
[12:16] <nold222> 8s running now, but as soon as i restarted my cpu at all, all goes nothing
[12:16] <hazexp_> XCTest, it converts RPM files to DEB files, usable by Ubuntu's package manager
[12:16] <hazexp_> to obtain alien, simply sudo apt-get install alien
[12:16] <timalot> powertrip anyone?
[12:16] <XCTest> hazexp_, wow... That's sound good :)
[12:17] <mesut> Seveas: then i want to know if aiglx packages exist for dapper-ppc
[12:17] <XCTest> hazexp_, can you give me the URL of alien please?
[12:17] <wickedpuppy> XCTest, alien is in the repo ..
[12:17] <Seveas> mesut, aiglx there are no official aiglx packages for edgy, you'll need to ask the people who create the unofficial ones
[12:17] <nold222> k
[12:17] <manni18> eat my vagina Seveas
[12:17] <wickedpuppy> LOL
[12:17] <hazexp_> XCTest, you don't need a URL, simply 'sudo apt-get install alien' from the terminal
[12:17] <Seveas> cs kb manni18
[12:17] <elkbuntu> o.O
[12:18] <elkbuntu> oh, another of those
[12:18] <Seveas> the same
[12:18] <Seveas> someone unbanned him
[12:18] <wickedpuppy> i don't know she was a girl ..
[12:18] <Daverocks> nold222: as in, it stops working when you restart, or stops when you leave it idle and come back later?
[12:18] <hazexp_> XCTest, now download the RPM for XChat from here: http://www.xchat.org/files/binary/rpm/
[12:18] <XCTest> hazexp_, thanks... But where I can find all this tips ;) ?
[12:18] <Seveas> hazexp_, don't give crap advise
[12:19] <Seveas> using rpms on ubuntu should be avoided whenever possible
[12:19] <Seveas> and using an rpm for xchat is nowhere near neccessary
[12:19] <Seveas> XCTest, those particular tips can be found in the 'what not to do on Ubuntu' section ;)
[12:20] <XCTest> Seveas, Thanks .. ;)
[12:20] <hazexp_> Seveas, I was only trying to help, sorry for the "poor" advice
[12:21] <kakalto> could anyone help?
[12:21] <kakalto> please?
[12:21] <XCTest> Anyway, sudo apt-get install alien give me some errors... Fuck,,,
[12:21] <timalot> kakalto: i only give crap advice sorry.
[12:21] <kakalto> timalot: hey, if you have any advice on my situation, that'd be kinda nice
[12:22] <timalot> kakalto: i might get told off... but fire the question?
[12:22] <kakalto> uh
[12:22] <kakalto> said it a few mins ago
[12:22] <kakalto> wait up
[12:22] <dennda> hi. did anyone succesfully install a lexmark z45 printer?
[12:22] <lazzareth> I want to install edgy eft on my flash drive, but via the update method.. there wont be enough room to download the updates however.. what directory do i need to bind to my local hard drive ?
[12:22] <kakalto> how can I add an hour to my clock from the command line? I have no GUI
[12:22] <XCTest> Guys, please, another way to install Xchat 2.6.6 ?
[12:23] <timalot> kakalto: the date command running as root will do it
[12:23] <kakalto> guess I'll just man it
[12:23] <timalot> date MMDDhhmm
[12:23] <Madpilot> XCTest, wait a couple of weeks, Edgy will have XChat 2.6.6 when it releases near the end of the month
[12:23] <edgy> dennis-: what do you exactly want to do?
[12:23] <oskude> XCTest: well, dapper seems to have  2.6.1-0ubuntu2, so you may have to compile it yourself... if you really really need that particular version...
[12:24] <nold222> daverock gtg, hope next time we can chat
[12:24] <edgy> dennis-: may be you want an output like LC_ALL=C ls -a
[12:24] <Daverocks> nold222: k
[12:24] <Daverocks> he's gone, meh :P
[12:24] <RyEINic> i have xchat 2.6.6 on dapper probably because i'm using backports
[12:25] <Seveas> RyEINic, most likely
[12:25] <XCTest> Madpilot, oskude ok thanks... So next question please: where aI can find all the ubuntu distos for ppc?
[12:26] <oskude> XCTest: are thy not on the download page ?
[12:26] <Madpilot> XCTest, http://www.ubuntu.com/download - look for the ppc ISOs
[12:26] <XCTest> Ok, thanks. ;)
[12:26] <lara_> hola
[12:26] <Seveas> hi
[12:27] <XCTest> hola lara_ :)
[12:27] <elias_> what is the best way to get a hardware overview (cpu, chipsets, ... whatever) on the console so I can post it in a bug report?
[12:28] <Seveas> %reload Encyclopedia
[12:28] <ubotu> OK
[12:28] <Seveas> !xchat dapper-backports
[12:28] <Grey> elias_, lshw
[12:28] <Seveas> yay, bot bug :/
[12:28] <XCTest> I have to go now... Thanks for all guys. See you.
[12:29] <lara_> hola
[12:30] <lara_> ablamos en
[12:31] <Madpilot> !es
[12:31] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:34] <edgy> wickedpuppy, Seveas: I just found on google that passing --gdb option to mysqld would allow it to respond to ^C ;)
[12:36] <triplc> hello every one
[12:37] <d_tech> hi
[12:37] <Seveas> hi
[12:38] <wickedpuppy> edgy, thanks ... --gdb huh ? gnu debugger ?
[12:38] <d_tech> I have a problem I just install ubuntu and I am a programer in php. I must work on files on remote serwers. how can I do this ? I install Quanta but i can't log in a remote place :(
[12:39] <Ackeubu_> !help gcc
[12:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help gcc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:39] <Ackeubu_> !show gcc
[12:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about show gcc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:39] <Ackeubu_> !gcc
[12:39] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:39] <wickedpuppy> !gcc
[12:39] <triplc> please help me: i've just install sympa on ubuntu (sympa is the mailing list program which is in ubuntu repo). how ever it does not seem to work. i do not know whether to ask the question here in this channel. all the installation seems ok. but when i open the website "https://lists.hanoictt.com/wws" it has Error 500 (internal error). Running the perl program manualy from ssh console (/usr/lib/cgi-bin/sympa/wwsympa.fcgi) is perfectly okay
[12:39] <Ackeubu_> !view gcc
[12:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about view gcc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:39] <triplc> (lists.hanoictt.com is that computer)
[12:40] <KenSentMe> d_tech: you can use nautilus to connect to remote servers. Go to locations and Connect to server
[12:40] <chamo> hello
[12:40] <KenSentMe> d_tech: then you can use gedit to open the files
[12:40] <Ackeubu_> wickedpuppy: you didnt a command before gcc before. giveng the current version #
[12:40] <d_tech> KenSentMe: I dit that and I have a ICO on my desktop
[12:40] <wickedpuppy> !info gcc
[12:40] <ubotu> gcc: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.0.3-1 (dapper), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB
[12:40] <Ackeubu_> info thanks
[12:40] <d_tech> and that ist id doesent show on Quanta when I browse
[12:40] <wickedpuppy> why not ask us Ackeubu_  ? :P
[12:40] <aFx> where is Proftpd(package) down ?
[12:41] <Ackeubu_> sry
[12:41] <wickedpuppy> Ackeubu_, its ok .. it was just a kick after all .. not a ban
[12:41] <KenSentMe> d_tech: well, that's a problem that i have too. Some programs use it, others don't use the servers from nautilus
[12:42] <d_tech> KenSentMe: waht ?! so what program support nutilus ?
[12:42] <Ackeubu_> hehe
[12:42] <KenSentMe> d_tech: gedit
[12:42] <Ackeubu_> !view bot
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about view bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:42] <Ackeubu_> !bot
[12:42] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[12:42] <Seveas> apparently he doesn't learn...
[12:42] <triplc> (oh bot?)
[12:43] <wickedpuppy> ... i did told him it was just a kick .. sigh
[12:43] <oskude> Seveas: maybe someone should change all occurances of !foobar to /msg ubotu foobar in the factoids...
[12:43] <d_tech> KenSentMe: it is a joke, I ned self completition and other stuff :/
[12:44] <KenSentMe> d_tech: i know, but i don't have another solution
[12:44] <gnomefreak> oskude: dont give him any ideas :(
[12:44] <d_tech> :/ whell and that was it about ubuntu for humans :(
[12:44] <d_tech> maybe for humans but not for programers.
[12:44] <Seveas> d_tech, programmers use vim ;)
[12:45] <oskude> gnomefreak: i mean, the first people see is !foobar, and then they get mocked cause of using that... but yes, spamming (what ever) is not ok anyway...
[12:45] <d_tech> yes, but not me. I don't have time to lear how to use it.
[12:45] <chamo> question
[12:45] <chamo> is there a way to force update via apt-get ?
[12:45] <chamo> I have 30 packet not updated
[12:45] <d_tech> but ok thx
[12:45] <d_tech> and by.
[12:45] <chamo> and -f doesnt help
[12:46] <Seveas> chamo, apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:46] <gnomefreak> oskude: that wasnt his first time he has been wanred
[12:46] <chamo> it says 0, 0,0 and 30 not updated!
[12:46] <chamo> still!
[12:46] <gnomefreak> chamo: -f isnt force in apt
[12:46] <triplc> someone please kindly help me how to get sympa work
[12:46] <triplc> please help me: i've just install sympa on ubuntu (sympa is the mailing list program which is in ubuntu repo). how ever it does not seem to work. i do not know whether to ask the question here in this channel. all the installation seems ok. but when i open the website "https://lists.hanoictt.com/wws" it has Error 500 (internal error). Running the perl program manualy from ssh console (/usr/lib/cgi-bin/sympa/wwsympa.fcgi) is perfectly okay
[12:47] <triplc> chamo, apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:47] <O2> Hello, every one!
[12:47] <oskude> triplc: i doubt anyone use sympa here... so you would have more luck in sympa related room/list/forum ...
[12:47] <chamo> triplc: this doesnt work as just said.
[12:47] <O2> I am O2.
[12:47] <chamo> gnomefreak: any other idea ?
[12:48] <triplc> chamo, so, just use aptitude
[12:48] <gnomefreak> chamo: sudo apt-get update thank run sudo apt-get dist upgrade and please pastebin the output of both commands
[12:48] <O2> I think ubuntu is my O2, :P
[12:49] <triplc> chamo, sometime i cannot get apt-get to work, i use aptitude, press "U" then "g" then "g"... (sorry, i am not apt-get expert)
[12:50] <edgy> wickedpuppy: yes
[12:50] <chamo> trying...
[12:51] <webben> When I plugin in my usb DVD drive, a dvc
[12:51] <webben> dvdrecord folder appears in /media
[12:51] <webben> how to I find out what /dev this is?
[12:51] <deadly_venom> "linux noprobe" is equivalent to what in Ubuntu ?
[12:52] <edgy> webben: mount may be
[12:52] <Seveas> deadly_venom, what's noprobe supposed to do?
[12:52] <triplc> webben, can you run "mount" to see which device is mounted as which folder?
[12:52] <dennda> hi. did anyone succesfully install a lexmark z45 printer?
[12:52] <deadly_venom> Seveas it's a method of supporting a hardware that is newer than the installation,
[12:54] <suspectkboss> is this the right place to ask newbie questions?
[12:55] <Seveas> suspectkboss, yes
[12:55] <gnomefreak> chamo: is this a upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[12:56] <swilliamson> anyone hav any tip0s to figure out why the screensaer is not working on my dapper laptop, I cannot lock the screen either
[12:56] <gnomefreak> chamo: and the 30 not upgraded are under the heldback part?
[12:56] <chamo> yep
[12:56] <gnomefreak> chamo: and 95% of them are python
[12:56] <suspectkboss> okay. i have a problem changing screen resolutions. i'm using version 6.01 on an intel386 with a nvidia 7600 gs card. i can't go above 1024x768. any hints?
[12:57] <gnomefreak> chamo: sudo apt-get install package package package ......   replace package with the name of the package
[12:57] <gnomefreak> chamo: please use #ubuntu+1 for edgy
[12:57] <gnomefreak> brb smoke and coffee
[12:58] <chamo> :)
[12:58] <Seveas> suspectkboss, did you install the proprietary drivers?
[12:58] <suspectkboss> ahh ... no. what are those?
[12:59] <Seveas> !nvidia
[12:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:59] <Seveas> see what ubotu just said suspectkboss
[12:59] <suspectkboss> ok
[12:59] <suspectkboss> i'll check it out. thanks.
[01:00] <myesterious> Actually, Program installation with compiling from src , Can it specifies cpu model ? (such as add option 686 when use ./configure)
[01:00] <pulltab> Hi, postfix is not sending mail, how do I debug/fix it? I'm using ubuntu 6.06
[01:01] <Seveas> pulltab, check your logs
[01:01] <suspectkboss> i have another question. do i need to download gcc and emacs, or are they there on the cd?
[01:02] <pulltab> Seveas, what logs do i check, sorry
[01:02] <Seveas> suspectkboss, gcc is, emacs not. You can install them with the pcackage manager
[01:02] <Seveas> pulltab, /var/log/mail*
[01:03] <suspectkboss> how do i see what stuff is there on the cd?
[01:03] <suspectkboss> ok
[01:03] <swilliamson> anyone know what logs to look at when gnome is no lading the screensaver, already check messages
[01:04] <gnomefreak> swilliamson: first make sure you have it set to use a screensaver
[01:04] <gnomefreak> swilliamson: also what version of ubuntu?
[01:05] <deadly_venom> If sudo is for root , then what is gksudo ?
[01:05] <swilliamson> dapper i686smp screensave is on if I goto prefs>screensaver
[01:05] <chamo> gksudo is for choosing user running the task
[01:06] <chamo> and for graphic instances
[01:06] <chamo> brb dinner
[01:06] <gnomefreak> gksudo is sudo for gtk apps
[01:06] <Ramunas> hello :)
[01:07] <deadly_venom> why can't i just type -> sudo ? is it necessary to use gksudo?
[01:07] <chronoAZ> can anyone tell me what i need to send mail using phps mail() function (on ubuntu + apache 2 + php)
[01:07] <suspectkboss> can i use kde with ubuntu?
[01:08] <kyja> gksudo is good for if you write a script or a menu item. without terminal it will propt for pass with a dialog.
[01:09] <gnomefreak> suspectkboss: yes
[01:09] <gnomefreak> suspectkboss: install kubuntu-desktop package and than you are able to choose what one you  want to use on the login screen
[01:09] <oskude> deadly_venom: you should use sudo for commandline programs, and gksudo for graphical programs... (afaik)
[01:09] <kyja> suspectkboss, you can install kde fluxbox or other window managers and can choose at login.
[01:10] <suspectkboss> ok... and how do i set kde as default? can i do that?
[01:10] <Seveas> yes, it will ask you whether you want it as default
[01:11] <suspectkboss> ok.
[01:11] <suspectkboss> thanks!
[01:11] <kyja> suspectkboss, at opon loging in it will ask if you want that to be your default choice or not.
[01:11] <kyja> lol
[01:11] <chronoAZ> what do i need to send mail using php mail() function?
[01:11] <hawkaloogie> chronoAZ, usually sendmail
[01:11] <SpComb> or an smtp server
[01:11] <hawkaloogie> chronoAZ, ask ##php, it's probably a configuration problem
[01:11] <Seveas> chronoAZ, either a locally installed mailserver or the details of a remote one in php.ini
[01:12] <chronoAZ> just installed apache 2 and php packages, didnt configure them from the default
[01:14] <kyja> #ubuntu user list towers over #debian by 227
[01:14] <kyja> neat
[01:18] <tcr> I just installed edgy. Why doesn't the libpcap package (that ships with it) create a default libpcap.so symlink, but only installs libpcap.so.0.8 in /usr/lib?
[01:18] <kyja> :/ ?
[01:18] <kyja> #ubuntu+1
[01:19] <tcr> kyja: was that comment directed at me?
[01:19] <yakumo> hello
[01:19] <oskude> !edgy > tcr
[01:19] <kyja> sorry yes tcr, the edgy help is at #ubuntu+1
[01:20] <yakumo> how do i uninstall rpm program which is install on my ubuntu
[01:20] <tiny> just installing ubuntu on a spare partition on my lappie ... it's installing system atm ... when do you pick your software? Or it installs default one
[01:20] <fyrestrtr> tiny: it installs whatever you have on the livecd.
[01:20] <kyja> tcr, was only thinking you might get help there for that.
[01:21] <tiny> fyrestrtr: so there's no options there to pick WM, etc
[01:21] <tcr> yes, thanks kyja. your comment was just a bit... err, cryptic for an outsider.
[01:21] <fyrestrtr> tiny: not from the livecd, from the alternate cd you can.
[01:21] <kyja> hehe sorry
[01:21] <tiny> fyrestrtr: oh I see
[01:21] <tiny> fyrestrtr: what about the DVD?
[01:22] <fyrestrtr> tiny: don't know -- but if its a livedvd, then I suspect it will be the same. Either way, you can install whatever WM suits your fancy once you have the base system in place.
[01:22] <yakumo> is there any software that convert avi to mp4 on ubuntu
[01:22] <fyrestrtr> tiny: so even if you have ubuntu, you can install kde or fluxbox.
[01:22] <fyrestrtr> yakumo: mplayer
[01:22] <deadly_venom> Anyone used ndiswrapper ?
[01:22] <tiny> there's ubuntu WM?
[01:23] <yakumo> thnks
[01:23] <fyrestrtr> tiny: no, ubuntu comes with gnome.
[01:23] <tiny> figures yeah
[01:23] <fyrestrtr> tiny: kubuntu is ubuntu with kde.
[01:23] <tiny> livecd look gnomish
[01:23] <tiny> i wanna ubuntu + fluxbox
[01:23] <tiny> that's all
[01:24] <fyrestrtr> tiny: then use the alternate cd, install the basic system (type server at the boot: prompt) then install fluxbox.
[01:24] <kyja> then sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[01:24] <kyja> or maybe sudo apt-get install fluxubuntu
[01:24] <fyrestrtr> nah, no such thing as fluxubuntu
[01:25] <oskude> that reminds me, will there be like "ubuntu-base/minimal" ? (or should we use server image for that)
[01:25] <tiny> okies ty mates
[01:25] <fyrestrtr> oskude: use the alternate cd if you want to control what gets installed.
[01:25] <tiny> yep I wanna control! :)
[01:25] <oskude> fyrestrtr: oh, it can do just like debian base ? didnt notice :/
[01:26] <fyrestrtr> the alternate cd has the text mode installer, plus other configuration options not available on the 'desktop' aka live cd.
[01:27] <fyrestrtr> oskude: the easiest way to get base system is to boot from the alternate install cd, and type 'server' at the boot prompt.
[01:27] <oskude> fyrestrtr: ok, that was the answer to (or should we use server image for that) :)
[01:27] <fyrestrtr> that gives you most of the userspace tools, no X. Basically everything you need to run a headless environment. Then if you want gnome you instal ubuntu-desktop, if you want kde you install kde-desktop, if you want fluxbox you install fluxbox etc.
[01:28] <oskude> fyrestrtr: or is alternate cd "server" != server cd ?
[01:28] <fyrestrtr> the server cd is something else, its like the alternate cd, but with some server-only things, like a one-shot command to install the LAMP stack.
[01:29] <fyrestrtr> for the most flexible options, choose alternate. For the easiest install, choose desktop. If you are going to run the LAMP stack, choose the server cd.
[01:31] <tiny> fyrestrtr: I appreciate this explanation ... this should be out there on ubuntu pages right at the start of DL page .. to sort of hit you in the face ... with links to download sections
[01:31] <oskude> fyrestrtr: and if youre bored, use debootstrap ;)
[01:32] <tiny> heh .. of course ... live cd installed GRUB and over my old setup .. hee
[01:32] <tiny> h
[01:32] <kishore> hi all
[01:34] <vegiVamp> grrrrr @ update
[01:34] <Decadent> how can i open a *.chm fyle??
[01:34] <Decadent> *file
[01:34] <vegiVamp> adept seemed stuck at 1% with this weekend's updates
[01:35] <vegiVamp> turns out you need to open the details to notice the new skype package waiting for you to read the license agreement
[01:35] <fyrestrtr> Decadent: with a chm viewer, like xchm
[01:35] <vegiVamp> debconf++
[01:35] <unfknblvbl> !realmedia
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about realmedia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <unfknblvbl> !mp3
[01:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:35] <Decadent> ok thanks
[01:37] <ahfeel> hi all
[01:37] <ahfeel> could anybody help me with installing a gaim plugin ?
[01:37] <ahfeel> the ./configure goes ok, i've installed gaim-dev
[01:37] <ahfeel> but make doesn't work, i get this :
[01:38] <Draco> hi all, is it possible to use a live cd but somehow load the network configuration when live cd boots ?
[01:38] <ahfeel> http://rafb.net/paste/results/GttIvK73.html
[01:40] <oskude> ahfeel: error: cipher.h: No such file or directory
[01:41] <Ash-Fox> How does one start java webstart under Ubuntu? I tried 'javaws', but I get a 'Splash: sysCreateListenerSocket failed: No such file or directory'
[01:41] <ahfeel> yeah i saw but
[01:41] <ahfeel> i don't know what package i should get to correct that
[01:42] <oskude> ahfeel: well, the readme of the program you try to compile should say that...
[01:42] <unfknblvbl> what package do i install for realmedia files (i don't want the realplayer) and i've read the restricted formats
[01:43] <oskude> ahfeel: or you could try your luck with "apt-file search cipher.h"
[01:44] <ahfeel> oskude: oki !
[01:44] <ahfeel> thanks :)
[01:44] <Draco> hi all, is it possible to use a live cd but somehow load the network configuration when live cd boots ?
[01:44] <livingdaylight> people aleady using Edgy in a stable manner?
[01:44] <livingdaylight> Is Edgy ready yet for the desktop?
[01:44] <oskude> livingdaylight: no
[01:44] <livingdaylight> is Edgy stable and functional enough to use?
[01:45] <livingdaylight> oskude: no?  :(
[01:45] <oskude> livingdaylight: "<livingdaylight> is Edgy stable and functional enough to use?" maybe
[01:45] <fyrestrtr> Draco: the livecd tries to autoconfigure any detected network devices.
[01:45] <oskude> livingdaylight: what do you think why its beta ?
[01:45] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: no, its not recommended for day-to-day use.
[01:47] <Draco> fyrestrtr, yes but it uses dhcp on a non dhcp network causing IP address conflicts
[01:48] <Draco> i would like to be able to specify the IP address, gateway and proxy server for the live cd
[01:56] <tiny> fyrestrtr: fluxbuntu: http://www.fluxbuntu.com/
[01:56] <tiny> just found it
[01:58] <aFx> which editer does here user use much(emacs,vi,pico,etc.) ?
[01:58] <aFx> i am newbie
[01:59] <oskude> aFx: nano
[01:59] <ChocoCid> gedit
[01:59] <aFx> nano?
[01:59] <oskude> !nano > aFx
[02:00] <tiny> aFx: for newbies nano, but learn vim and master editing
[02:00] <aFx> tiny : ok
[02:01] <AnAnt> anyone knows the difference between -386 & -generic kernels ?
[02:01] <Chousuke> vimtutor is nice. :)
[02:01] <david83> right
[02:01] <lastnode> AnAnt, i just replied you no? :-)
[02:01] <AnAnt> lastnode: u told me to ask here ?
[02:02] <lastnode> AnAnt, i also answered it before i asked you to ask in here :-)
[02:02] <tiny> Chousuke: yep but I like this vim tutorial better: http://www.vi-improved.org/tutorial.php
[02:03] <AnAnt> lastnode: k, thanks
[02:03] <hydro> hello all
[02:03] <hydro> I have what is probably a silly question but hope someone can help ...
[02:03] <lastnode> !ask
[02:03] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:04] <hydro> I want to use, in Dapper Drake, Synaptic Package Manager, to download a Package ... but the Package is not the most current version. Is there anyway to get the most current version of the Package into my instance of Dapper Drake's package repository which will then be read by Synaptic Package Manager?
[02:05] <hydro> ubotu: thanks -- you're right, that's kind of silly to ask to ask a question
[02:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks -- you're right, that's kind of silly to ask to ask a question - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:05] <lastnode> hybrid, ubotu is a bot, not a real person
[02:05] <lastnode> hybrid, which package?
[02:05] <hydro> lastnode: ugh!
[02:05] <oskude> hydro: and you need that "most current version" cause of an missing feature, or just cause its "most current version" ?
[02:06] <hydro> oskude: because I just want the "most current version" ... which seems to be a few versions later than the version listed in the package manager
[02:06] <hydro> lastnode: the wacom-tools ... I have a Tablet PC
[02:06] <oskude> hydro: ok ...
[02:07] <lastnode> !info wacom-tools dapper
[02:07] <ubotu> wacom-tools: utilities for wacom tablets and other hid devices. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.7.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 36 kB, installed size 172 kB
[02:07] <lastnode> !info wacom-tools edgy
[02:07] <hydro> the version of wacom-tools in Dapper Drake is 0.7.2 but on the web site its listed as 0.7.4
[02:07] <ubotu> wacom-tools: utilities for wacom tablets and other hid devices. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.7.2-0ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 36 kB, installed size 172 kB
[02:07] <lastnode> hydro, the maintainer has not updated it, :\
[02:07] <lastnode> you can compile from source, i guess
[02:07] <hydro> lastnode well, maybe I can live without 0.7.4 ... maybe its not that big of a deal
[02:07] <mAIJK> Hello. I want to install Linux on my computer, problem is that I do not have an CD-Rom. How can I boot from LAN and install that way? I have one Win XP machine that can host a ISO file or something like that... help??
[02:07] <hydro> thanks lastnode
[02:08] <lnx> lo
[02:09] <lnx> is there a Breezy badger backports ftp site where vlc player sitting? pls
[02:11] <oskude> lnx, looked here ? http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[02:13] <lnx> oskude: yes but there was too much dependency problems...
[02:14] <lnx> whed vlc dpkg -i 'ed
[02:14] <lnx> when*
[02:14] <oskude> lnx: dpkg -i ? you should use apt-get ...
[02:14] <lnx> k 'll try tx.
[02:16] <david83> lnx, i can find the vlc over apt-get but didn't got backports enabled just with the breezy breezy-updates and breezy-security on universe and multiverse
[02:17] <tombo> hi, got a problem with apt, the file libapache-mod-ssl: usr/share/doc/libapache-mod-ssl/examples/sign.sh on my system is missing, so I decided to reinstall the entire package:
[02:18] <deadly_venom> how do find my hostname of my ubuntu?
[02:18] <tombo> with apt-get install -reinstal t: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7] 
[02:18] <spoilerhead> deadly_venom open a terminal, and type hostname
[02:18] <deadly_venom> spoilerhead ty
[02:18] <david83> hostname
[02:18] <jrib> deadly_venom: system > administration > networking > general,  will give you the info as well
[02:18] <tombo> [#ubuntu]  libapache-mod-ssl, ..
[02:20] <tombo> but this wants to install apache-common as well but I am using apache2 and do not want apache-common. Any Suggestions?
[02:21] <wickedpuppy> why don't ya want apache-common ?
[02:21] <LorandKA> anybody can cand me a url for the diskmounter script?
[02:21] <oskude> tombo: read "apt-cache show apache2-common" it says "This package contains all the standard apache2 modules, including SSL support."
[02:22] <david83> is it possible to give different users different /tmp directories?
[02:22] <wickedpuppy> david83, why ?
[02:22] <tombo> wickedpuppy,oskude, I do not want it apt-get forces me!
[02:22] <mAIJK> Hey, I have ubuntu on my comp and it does not work after my hardware change.. I can access the terminal, my X is fucked up and I want to re install ubuntu but I dont got no CDrom. Can I reinstall ubuntu with APT-Get or something like that?
[02:23] <oskude> tombo: when you install what ?
[02:23] <wickedpuppy> tombo, because it has necessary packages ?
[02:23] <wickedpuppy> oskude, i assume he installed apache2
[02:23] <oskude> wickedpuppy: i doubt
[02:23] <tombo> wickedpuppy: exactly
[02:23] <orbin> mAIJK: what hardware change?
[02:23] <wickedpuppy> LOL
[02:23] <david83> wickedpuppy just for better cleaning up issues
[02:24] <mAIJK> orbin brand new computer but same HDD
[02:24] <mAIJK> I have tried to change in my xorg.conf
[02:24] <Homer_mobile> Hiya peeps
[02:24] <oskude> tombo: so, you did "sudo apt-get install apache2" and it tries to install "libapache-mod-ssl" too ?!
[02:24] <mAIJK> and installed nvidia drivers
[02:24] <mAIJK> but It doesn't work
[02:24] <mAIJK> I want a reinstall, feels better!
[02:24] <wickedpuppy> david83, cleaning up what ? actually if you go to /tmp there should be sub dirs with names ...
[02:25] <LorandKA> anyone can redirect me, where can I find the diskmounter script?
[02:25] <orbin> mAIJK: if X isn't working you probably just need to reconfigure the xorg package to detect the different video card
[02:25] <mAIJK> ok orbin. Can i make a autodetect?
[02:26] <orbin> mAIJK: the reconfigure script should autodetect the new card, yeah
[02:26] <david83> wickedpuppy i got different users on the machine and it makes conflicts because of some gnomefiles located in /tmp ;(
[02:26] <mAIJK> ok, where do I find this script?
[02:26] <wickedpuppy> oskude, i think he was installing apache2 and apt-get installs both apache2 + apache-common .. he wants to get apache2 but NOT apache-common ... is it right tombo ?
[02:27] <Homer_mobile> does anyone know if there is a x session manager for symbian smart phones i know there is for mobile windows
[02:27] <wickedpuppy> david83, and why you need to delete them ?
[02:27] <wickedpuppy> i am sorry .. i do not understand your point there
[02:28] <urakaipa> hi there, just a simple question: i would like to set different modes for directory and files, recursively. I mean files have to be readonly w/o execute permission and dir have to be rw with execution (so i can browse the content). There's a way?
[02:28] <tombo>  oskude: yes thats it, found know a work around I installed apache-common too, and its still lying there, I hope.
[02:28] <david83> wickedpuppy, sorry i mixed something no deletion is to be made
[02:28] <Dr_willis> urakaipa,  chmod -R whatever
[02:29] <wickedpuppy> david83, ok ..
[02:29] <Dr_willis> urakaipa,  man chmod --->  -R, --recursive
[02:29] <urakaipa> Dr_willis but how can i set mods just for dir without change files?
[02:29] <david83> wickedpuppy, i just had 2 users and when i log in with the first one i get a gnome-panel error that the second user got a lock on it
[02:30] <wickedpuppy> david83, type users ... how many names do you see ?
[02:30] <wickedpuppy> david83, or who
[02:30] <LorandKA> anybody, please, I can't find that diskmounter script :(
[02:30] <Dr_willis> urakaipa,  i would guess theres an option in  chmod, or one would use the find, command in addation to it.
[02:31] <wickedpuppy> i think find has it .. find with -exec
[02:31] <david83> wickedpuppy, the users aren't logged in at the same time
[02:31] <urakaipa> thx to both, i'm trying, stay tuned :)
[02:31] <Dr_willis> urakaipa,  looks like you would need to use find/chmod together
[02:32] <wickedpuppy> david83, can't be ... you only see your name when you do who ?
[02:32] <yccheok> hi, i try to download unrar, but i just cannot seach Synaptic Package Manager
[02:32] <yccheok> which repository i should added?
[02:33] <wickedpuppy> yccheok, system->admin->synaptic
[02:33] <oskude> yccheok: propably multiverse
[02:33] <jrib> ubotu: tell LorandKA about diskmounter
[02:33] <urakaipa> actually i never used find, so it would be possibile
[02:33] <Luc1> What application can edit pdf files?
[02:33] <david83> wickedpuppy, i don't know for sure i am asking this for another person but he said that they weren't logged in at the same time
[02:34] <wickedpuppy> david83, then ask him to do who .. at least come up with something .. we will see how things go
[02:34] <maxLF> Hey can someone show me the latest turtorial for installing W.O.W. in Linux?
[02:34] <david83> wickedpuppy, the two accounts were just sharing some files
[02:34] <wickedpuppy> you and me talking here won't solve anything
[02:34] <david83> wickedpuppy, ok thx
[02:34] <urakaipa> Dr_willis chmod doesn't care if it's a dir or a file. Do you already have the solution for using in combo with find?
[02:34] <yccheok> oskude: nope, i already have mutiverse, it just not there
[02:34] <wickedpuppy> so there were two accounts logged in ?
[02:34] <wickedpuppy> yccheok, universe ?
[02:34] <Dr_willis> maxLF,  You are refering to World of Warcraft?  check the Cedega message boards perhaps.
[02:35] <Dr_willis> urakaipa,  id have to google for examples.. i aint done it in years.
[02:35] <oskude> !info unrar
[02:35] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[02:35] <maxLF> I meant in wine. o_o Cedaga is like money
[02:35] <wickedpuppy> urakaipa, find -type f -exec chmod 755 * {}; or something like that ... test it first
[02:35] <oskude> yccheok: well, it IS in multiverse...
[02:35] <david83> wickedpuppy, he wanted to check the symlinks so if anything is mixed up with them
[02:36] <yccheok> oskude, u can find the non-free unrar there?
[02:36] <maxLF> Dr_willis I was kind of hoping to use it in Wine. :/ Not Cedaga seeing as you have to pay for it
[02:36] <oskude> yccheok: just read what ubotu said :/
[02:36] <Dr_willis> maxLF,  the same tricks will apply I guess. Ive given up on that Parasite WoW
[02:36] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:36] <Dr_willis> wine setup.exe and have at it.
[02:37] <maxLF> Dr_willis, meh someone gave it to me as a gift.
[02:37] <wickedpuppy> david83, really .. so does he have two users logged in or just one user ? and how do they share a file ?
[02:37] <maxLF> Dr_willis, i tried that and when it says replace the disk I click on the install for disc 2 nothing happens, I overwrite the files and nothing happens
[02:37] <pwk> hi
[02:37] <pwk> i'm setting up my part for ubntu
[02:37] <pwk> what should i format it with in xp
[02:37] <pwk> fat 32 ?
[02:37] <oskude> yccheok: and if you dont believe the bot :/ http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=unrar&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all
[02:38] <Dr_willis> maxLF,  copy ALL the cd's to a single directory.. then run the installer from that dir.
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> pwk, no just leave an empty partition ... ubuntu will format it
[02:38] <david83> wickedpuppy, sry he is still not chatting with me but i will ask him :) thx
[02:38] <pwk> k
[02:38] <pwk> bbbl
[02:38] <pwk> thanks
[02:38] <pwk> hope it goes well
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> david83, k
[02:38] <maxLF> Dr_willis, won't the files have the same name?
[02:39] <Dr_willis> maxLF,  ive installed it that way befor...
[02:39] <Dr_willis> maxLF,  why not Look. :P i dont memorize the install file names for games.. :)
[02:39] <maxLF> Dr_willis, no but I'm saying if they have the same name won't they try to replace each other?
[02:39] <Dr_willis> maxLF,  once ya do get it working.. expect a few hrs of downloads for updates..
[02:40] <maxLF> Dr_willis I dun mind.
[02:40] <Dr_willis> maxLF,  check the install cd files.. i have seen this trick done with MANY a game that comes on multi-cd
[02:40] <seishi> someone can help me with comands of compacted files convertion ?? (zip to tar.gz)
[02:40] <seishi> i've tried 'unzip -c file.zip | gzip -c > file.tar.gz
[02:41] <seishi> but when i try to open, it doesnt work
[02:41] <seishi> : |
[02:41] <Dr_willis> that sort of ignores the 'tar' aspect dont it? :)
[02:41] <mjr> seishi, no wonder, there's no tarring in there
[02:41] <Lasse|NOR> anyone know a good ftp client? something like smartFTP?
[02:41] <Dr_willis> !ftp
[02:41] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[02:41] <ChaosFan> y/wg 30
[02:41] <Dr_willis> and others in the repos.. :)
[02:41] <Lasse|NOR> thanks
[02:41] <maxLF> Dr_willis so just copy them all to the same directory (i.e. same folder?)
[02:41] <mjr> seishi, you probably need to unzip into the filesystem and tar czf file.tar.gz files
[02:41] <seishi> hm..
[02:42] <Dr_willis> maxLF,  yes.. same DIRECORY.. 'folder' is for windows users. :P
[02:42] <mjr> seishi, you can't pipe multiple files like that
[02:42] <Dr_willis>  :)  *ducks*
[02:42] <seishi> mjr, i've suspected of that
[02:42] <Dr_willis> directory=folder
[02:42] <maxLF> Dr_willis, oh, sorry. xP I have been Windows free since about... o.O;; April of 06.
[02:43] <Dr_willis> Heh heh... only the names have been changed to protect the guilty.
[02:43] <oskude> Dr_willis: directory = cli, folder = gui ?
[02:43] <Dr_willis> oskude,  but they are the same thing. :P so why bother with diffrent names.
[02:43] <Dr_willis> oskude,  ive seen this argued befor. :)
[02:44] <oskude> Dr_willis: the same reason why people bother to display them in gui ;P
[02:44] <Dr_willis> 'the icon looks like a folder' so its a folder..  what does a 'directory' look like.. ?
[02:44] <seishi> mjr, my base: "gunzip -c file.tar.gz | bzip2 -c > file.tar.bz2"  (tar.gz -> tar.bz2)
[02:44] <Dr_willis> oskude,  yea.. amuzing how the common names for them can be taken from windows - but terms like 'control panel' are not
[02:45] <lucien__> hi
[02:45] <Gabby_Hayes> and the fact that linux doesn't have a "blue screen of death"  either.
[02:45] <lucien__> is there a way to prevent a kernel module from being loaded (automatically)?
[02:45] <maxLF> I fxing hate the blue screen
[02:46] <Dr_willis> lucien_,  theres a modules.blacklist file that  can do that.
[02:46] <lucien__> Dr_willis: thx!
[02:46] <Dr_willis> I much perfer the AMIGA "Guru Mediation Error" screens
[02:47] <maxLF> Dr_willis, I'm getting same name problems
[02:47] <seishi> mjr, how can i do that?( convert .zip to .tar.gz)...
[02:48] <seishi> -.-
[02:48] <maxLF> Dr_willis, it's for InstallerTome or whatever, installer.exe, and installer Icon
[02:48] <mikesh> hi, do somebody play Lineage 2 on Ubuntu?
[02:48] <urakaipa> wickedpuppy you're quite right, thx for the hint. The right command for files seems to be: find -type f -exec chmod ug-rx {} +
[02:48] <Eludias_> How do I set up RAID1 on Ubuntu?
[02:49] <dennda> hi. does aiglx & beryl & edgy run with ubuntus fglrx? :)
[02:49] <Dr_willis> maxLF,  makes one wonder how they have a DVD install then..  You could also mount/unmount the cds manually. wine has options on how it can automount things.
[02:49] <tehstev> hey all, i'm try to figure out a way to replace one word for another on the command line in many files... i'm guessing it involves sed
[02:49] <cuma_cumi> hi
[02:49] <cuma_cumi> anyone can help me?
[02:49] <Dr_willis> maxLF,  or those files are identical name,, and identical in data.. because for some reason the installer wants the same file copied to several cd's
[02:50] <Dr_willis> maxLF,  that makes MUCH more sence.. beause why would you have an installer.exe on cd 4
[02:50] <maxLF> dr_willis, that's why I put them in seperate directories before.
[02:50] <hilde> why can't I use the "mail" command on command line? what pakket do I need to install?
[02:50] <gpeek> cuma_cumi: you can try something like perl -pi -e 's/user/username/g' ~/.m2/settings.xml
[02:50] <McNutella> when the new KDE 3.5.5 is realeased, will this be an easy to install package ?
[02:50] <hilde> mail bla@foo.com
[02:50] <maxLF> Dr_willis: So just skip all the same namers?
[02:51] <cuma_cumi> i found this error with my first ubuntu "E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs"
[02:51] <cuma_cumi> do you have an idea for that?
[02:51] <Dr_willis> maxLF,  I would.
[02:51] <LorandKA> is there some kind of a plugin that displays the current song in the status for gaim, by listening with xmms?
[02:51] <maxLF> Dr_willis, so what do I do when it asks for a new cd?
[02:52] <david83> how to write one mail every min to some recipient ?
[02:52] <cuma_cumi> i want to update my ubuntu..hiks..but found that error "E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs"
[02:52] <Dr_willis> maxLF,  if the installer ran from that directroy - it shouldent ask.
[02:52] <Dr_willis> maxLF,  try it and see. :)
[02:52] <maxLF> Dr_willis, I'm just copying all the CDS, man is the game ever large.
[02:52] <gpeek> tehstev: you can try something like for i in `find . .-iname blah.*`; do perl -pi -e 's/string1/string2/g' $i; done
[02:53] <muthana> i want to update kernel
[02:53] <pulltab> Hi, I have configured postfix as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix , but I still can't get it to send mail..Is it because I dont have a somain?
[02:53] <maxLF> o.o So I reinstalled Ubuntu last night lol , I messed up installing an ATI driver and somehow installed 3 other linux kernels. LMFAO XD
[02:53] <pulltab> *somian = domain
[02:54] <cuma_cumi> hiks
[02:54] <Dr_willis> maxLF,  thats only PART OF IT... wait for the next 4 hrs+ for the updates.. after you get it installed.
[02:54] <Dr_willis> maxLF,  now ya  know why i gave up on it.. in part..
[02:54] <muthana> i want to update kernel
[02:54] <muthana> i want to update kernel  ubuntu
[02:54] <maxLF> Dr_willis: why?
[02:54] <cuma_cumi> i want to update my ubuntu..hiks..but found that error "E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs"
[02:54] <Dr_willis> maxLF, why to what part.. :P why the huge updates?
[02:55] <maxLF> Dr_willis: I can just go on my other computer or play gamecube rofl, this isn't my only computer but it is my personal one.
[02:55] <maxLF> Dr_willis: Cause it's a forking large game.
[02:55] <DJAdmiral> !language
[02:55] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:55] <Dr_willis> maxLF,  its a treadmill of a game also.
[02:55] <maxLF> Dr_willis: I really wanna try it though, I was actually considering putting windows on my computer just to play some games but Windows dislikes my SATA harddrive while Dapper Drake is okay with it.
[02:56] <Gabby_Hayes> maxLF  .. do you have a SATA  DVD drive, also?
[02:57] <Dr_willis> maxLF,  windows - requires (often) a floppy disk with the sata/raid drivers for itto install properly
[02:57] <maxLF> Gabby_Hayes: I have a SATA hard drive. o.o
[02:57] <tehstev> gpeek: thanks a lot! did the trick!
[02:58] <maxLF> Dr_willis, I know, I put the disk in and I do what it's supposed to do and then it doesn't get to installing it goes to some MS DOS recovery thing
[02:58] <Gabby_Hayes> thxs,  guess I'll try finding one,  as I have a nice MB on which the IDE controllers are shot, but it has 4 SATA connections on it for a Raid...
[02:58] <pulltab> Hi, I have configured postfix as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix , but I still can't get it to send mail..Is it because I dont have a domain?
[02:59] <sunpac> pulltab, no. you doesn't require a domain to send mail out.
[02:59] <sunpac> pulltab, how did you test to send mail?
[02:59] <pulltab> sunpac, thanks.  mail name@domain and also telnet
[02:59] <sunpac> and what does telne localhost 25 says?
[03:00] <abhinay> how to install doom ?
[03:00] <muthana> i want to update kernel  ubuntu
[03:00] <pulltab> Trying 127.0.0.1...
[03:00] <pulltab> Connected to localhost.
[03:00] <pulltab> Escape character is '^] '.
[03:00] <pulltab> 220 gmail.com ESMTP Postfix (Ubuntu)
[03:01] <rubso> hey guys, how to compile ndiswrapper under ubuntu, while there is no kernel source?
[03:02] <sunpac> pulltab, mail from:<test@test.com>
[03:02] <sunpac> rcpt to:<some@valid.email>
[03:02] <ANT_ANT_is_Not_T> hi people,  some user with a toshiba that can help me with the FNFXD ?
[03:04] <pulltab> sunpac, done..now it is just the cursor thing
[03:05] <sunpac> pulltab, then type 'data', then 'enter' follow by some content.
[03:05] <sunpac> pulltab, then '.' to end
[03:05] <pulltab> then quit?
[03:05] <sunpac> and check your maillog or something. i don't use postfix.
[03:06] <lazzareth> What SSL libary do in need to install for GAIM? i just complied gaim 2 beta 3.1 and it wont connect with msn or gtalk without ssl encryption? the gaim.fs.net/faq-ssl.php site is down? otherwise I would follow those instructions
[03:06] <DJAdmiral> hey guys
[03:07] <DJAdmiral> question: how do i activate a screen magnifier?
[03:08] <Daverocks> lazzareth: try gaim.sf.net as opposed to gaim.fs.net
[03:08] <melon> i know.. i know.. personal preference 'n all that.. but if people were to suggest their idea of a great torrent (bitlord) alternative for ubuntu.. what would it be?
[03:08] <wheelswitch> i use Torrent under wine
[03:09] <DJAdmiral> can somebody help me out with putting on a screen magnifier please?
[03:09] <Daverocks> i just use azureus...
[03:09] <yccheok> is it possible to play rmvb file in vlc player, or i have get a copy of real player?
[03:09] <lazzareth> Daverocks, That was a typo... I cannot reach that site :(  Can you paste the contents into pastebin or something?
[03:09] <DJAdmiral> my laptop's monitor fell off. now it's attached to a TV. I can barely read chat text now.
[03:09] <melon> wheelswitch: really? i was just looking at that.. i have wine installed 'n configured.. is it a difficult setup or will it be step by step normality?
[03:09] <wheelswitch> nah, it is really easy to setup melon
[03:10] <Daverocks> lazzareth: i'd like to, but my firefox isn't working atm... it's why i'm here :P
[03:10] <melon> nifty - tyvm
[03:10] <lazzareth> Ahahaha, Dang
[03:10] <Daverocks> firefox just won't open
[03:10] <lazzareth> did you try opening via terminal, to see any errors being generated ?
[03:10] <Daverocks> yep, no output
[03:10] <Daverocks> it just stops
[03:11] <Daverocks> i even tried running firefox-bin as opposed to the shell script
[03:11] <jaysqwatch> question:
[03:11] <lazzareth> Hmm
[03:11] <lazzareth> Dont suppose you have reinstalled it?
[03:11] <DJAdmiral> People - please help. My laptop's screen has fallen off. What's left of my laptop is now connected to a TV.
[03:11] <lazzareth> or tried out the beta
[03:11] <DJAdmiral> How do I start the screen magnifier?
[03:11] <Daverocks> lazzareth: i haven't changed it at all, i just installed ubuntu
[03:12] <Daverocks> really really weird
[03:12] <pulltab> sunpac, there are so many errors (been at it for a while) I dont know what is relevant
[03:12] <lazzareth> Ohhh
[03:12] <wheelswitch> melon: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191161&highlight=utorrent+wine
[03:12] <Daverocks> firefox-bin does say something though
[03:12] <jaysqwatch> Drapper server install, succesfully installed vmware free server, but I am not able to get the usb to get recognized on vmware
[03:12] <Daverocks> error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:12] <alipox> i have a probleme with my connecion
[03:12] <Daverocks> even though libmozjs.so is RIGHT THERE
[03:12] <Daverocks> in the same directory
[03:12] <jaysqwatch> ubuntu see it fine, but I am wondering if there is a config somewhere that I am missing
[03:13] <DJAdmiral> Somebody please help - how the heck do I enable Screen Magnifier? I can barely read fonts as my laptop is now connected to this puny TV.
[03:13] <lazzareth> Daverocks dont suppose you tried $ sudo apt-get install libmozls ?
[03:13] <melon> wheelswitch: already installed 'n running Torrent
[03:13] <melon> thanks again..
[03:13] <melon> :)
[03:13] <lazzareth> 'js sorry
[03:13] <Gabby_Hayes> Daverocks  .. can you get to a terminal  & apt-get?
[03:13] <wheelswitch> melon, madcore, enjoy.
[03:13] <maxLF> Dr_willis: okay copied all the files im gonna take a whack at er.
[03:13] <lazzareth> $ sudo apt-get install libmozjs      is that a package ?
[03:13] <Daverocks> E: Couldn't find package libmozjs
[03:14] <Daverocks> Gabby_Hayes: yes..
[03:14] <lazzareth> Neither can i :)
[03:14] <Gabby_Hayes> try what lazzareth  said:   $ sudo apt-get install libmozls
[03:14] <Daverocks> i tried that, and it gave this
[03:14] <Daverocks> E: Couldn't find package libmozjs
[03:15] <DJAdmiral> Somebody. Please. Help.
[03:15] <Daverocks> it IS js, not ls
[03:15] <DJAdmiral> How. Do. I. Enable. Screen. Magnifier.
[03:15] <lazzareth> Gaby_Hayes I couldnt find it either
[03:15] <Gabby_Hayes> Daverocks  try $ sudo apt-get -f install firefox
[03:15] <Daverocks> that's because it's not a package, it's a library contained in the firefox package'
[03:16] <Daverocks> Gabby_Hayes: will do
[03:16] <Eludias_> How do I set up RAID1 on Ubuntu?
[03:16] <Daverocks> firefox is already the newest version.
[03:16] <Gabby_Hayes> lazzareth  it is a virtual package  (iirc) under the firefox
[03:16] <Daverocks> i updated it earlier, but the OOB firefox didn't work either
[03:17] <Daverocks> every single other program works :S
[03:17] <Gabby_Hayes> Daverocks   .. try to uninstall firefox, then reinstall it via apt-get
[03:17] <Daverocks> DJAdmiral: try System -> Assistive Technology Support
[03:17] <Daverocks> Gabby_Hayes: k
[03:18] <orbin> !raid > Eludias_
[03:18] <jaysqwatch> i have found that using md is a pretty easy way to set raids
[03:18] <orbin> Eludias_: try those
[03:18] <DJAdmiral> THANK YOU
[03:18] <DJAdmiral> Finally
[03:19] <Daverocks> DJAdmiral: sorry it took so long ;)
[03:19] <Daverocks> Gabby_Hayes: done
[03:19] <Daverocks> and still not working
[03:19] <DJAdmiral> brb while i log back in and out.
[03:19] <Eludias_> orbin: Thanks!
[03:20] <SimonAnibal-Work> Anyone reading this an expert on xorg.conf and the hardware detection done every boot-up? (or have some experience with xorg.conf at all???)
[03:20] <Daverocks> !anyone
[03:20] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:20] <SimonAnibal-Work> heh, ok then
[03:21] <SimonAnibal-Work> I am managing Ubuntu on a very large number (read: nearly 300) of workstations at an Indiana high school
[03:21] <SimonAnibal-Work> The problem I'm coming up with happen only on the teacher workstations
[03:21] <SimonAnibal-Work> see, they're connected to a projector in the ceiling which necessitates a very long VGA cable
[03:21] <tombo> Which key-file do I take as the  root-certificate of my own ca, and how do deliver it to the browser usually?
[03:21] <psYchotic> hi, I'm wondering how I should batch rename files to be something like this: bla1.jpg, bla2.jpg, bla3.jpg with the rename command.
[03:22] <SimonAnibal-Work> the signal degradation caused by this long cable is enough that if the computer is booted up while connected to the cable, Ubuntu decides it cannot support 1024x768 screen resolution
[03:22] <david83> psychotic isn't it the mv command?
[03:22] <psYchotic> david83: I dunno
[03:22] <SimonAnibal-Work> If the computer is booted up not connected to the cable, it goes to 1024x768 just fine
[03:22] <psYchotic> david83: it doesn't seem to work with mv
[03:22] <morphix> when is the scheduled release for edgy eft?
[03:22] <psYchotic> but let me try again
[03:22] <jaysqwatch> having problems with a vmware configuration under ubuntu.  My host sees the usb devices, but I the guest operating system does not.  Has anyone run into that problem?
[03:23] <tombo>  david83: pyYchotic, use bash!
[03:23] <SimonAnibal-Work> I hate to tell teachers "boot up unplugged and then plug it back in"
[03:23] <david83> tombo, how is the command ?
[03:23] <Daverocks> psychotic: what tombo said, you can use a bash script with a loop to do the numbering
[03:23] <psYchotic> hm, ok
[03:24] <psYchotic> I guess I'll do it by hand then
[03:24] <seishi> how can i generate randomized numbers in bash ? it's possible to do something like that ?
[03:24] <Daverocks> seishi: echo $RANDOM
[03:24] <psYchotic> thanks
[03:24] <Asche_83m> Hello!
[03:24] <str47> sup?
[03:24] <psYchotic> ciao
[03:24] <SimonAnibal-Work> Anyhow, if anyone knows anything /msg me about it. I have to run and supervise an area. I'll be back in a little while.
[03:24] <str47> you tell me ;)
[03:24] <seishi> Daverocks, thanks :D
[03:24] <Daverocks> seishi: np =)
[03:24] <Asche_83m> I'm having a problem with my xorg.conf concerning the keyboard layout
[03:24] <gh0zt> hello
[03:25] <StAfZe6> sup
[03:25] <zyclop> Asche_83m: could you be more specific, please?
[03:26] <Daverocks> this is really weird, i really would have expected firefox to work out of the box in ubuntu 6.06
[03:26] <Daverocks> no idea what's going on here
[03:26] <Asche_83m> of course, zyclop
[03:26] <morphix> has there been any updates to the current Jmicron sata/ide raid controller issue yet?
[03:26] <Asche_83m> the key to do these signs around html-tags doesn't work
[03:26] <swilliamson> hey all I installed dapper on my dell Latitude Laptop, the only complaint I have is that when I put it on the port replicator, my mouse and keyboard work fine, however I cannot get the display to work on the monitor, only the laptops lcd, any ideas
[03:26] <Asche_83m> everything else works fine
[03:27] <Gabby_Hayes> Daverocks  .. had no problem myself, but others have had same problem
[03:27] <Asche_83m> my xorg.conf said I had a pc104 keyboard which was wrong.
[03:27] <Daverocks> Gabby_Hayes: ok, i might google
[03:27] <Asche_83m> I changed it to pc105 but it did not solve my problem
[03:28] <Gabby_Hayes> Daverocks  try checking for the correct dependencies from:  http://packages.debian.org/testing/web/mozilla-firefox
[03:28] <zyclop> Asche_83m: wich keyboard layout is common at your location?
[03:28] <Asche_83m> de
[03:28] <Daverocks> Gabby_Hayes: ok but i don't understand it because the file it needs is right there
[03:29] <zyclop> Asche_83m: dann schau doch mal, welches layout bei dir eingestellt ist.
[03:29] <Gabby_Hayes> it may be a corrupt file off the DVD  :-(
[03:29] <Daverocks> Gabby_Hayes: gah, i can't use firefox to view that link xD ... lynx it is :P
[03:29] <CVirus> I need a special characters utility
[03:29] <Asche_83m> also in der xorg.conf steht de
[03:30] <Asche_83m>     Option         "XkbModel" "pc105"
[03:30] <Asche_83m>     Option         "XkbLayout" "de"
[03:30] <zyclop> Asche_83m: dann schau doch mal, ob die taste klemmt oder dergl
[03:31] <Asche_83m> sollt ich vielleicht mal machen, mom
[03:31] <oskude> !de
[03:31] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:31] <pulltab> Hi, I have configured postfix as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix , but I still can't get it to send mail..I am completley stuck
[03:31] <CVirus> pulltab: check your logs for errors
[03:32] <pulltab> CVirus: any particular error? I have pages
[03:32] <Asche_83m> what's the name of that program which shows events unter X?
[03:32] <fraux> Hi, what i've to after modprove em28xx to make a pinnacle usb pro stick  (tvtuner) work ?
[03:32] <CVirus> pulltab: what pages ?
[03:32] <segfault_> Asche_83m, xev
[03:32] <MonsieurBon> hello
[03:32] <Asche_83m> thanks!
[03:32] <segfault_> np
[03:32] <MonsieurBon> does anybody know how i get ffmpeg to know aac?
[03:33] <pulltab> CVirus, Well, I cat /var/log/mail* | grep Oct\ \9
[03:33] <pulltab> and there is a lot of errors
[03:33] <CVirus> pulltab: paste them some where
[03:35] <pi> hi
[03:35] <pi> is there any way to boot my dapper without monitor's cable connected with a resolution 800x600 and not 640x480 (default)
[03:35] <lazzareth> I have somewhat of a weird problem in ubuntu.. My power button (the one on the main panel, that you can add, remove, etc) Has turned into a 100% log off button
[03:35] <lazzareth> does nothing else
[03:35] <lazzareth> doesnt prompt or anything
[03:35] <Draco> pi, I havent found a way had the same problem
[03:36] <pi> eh eh
[03:36] <pi> vnc you too?
[03:36] <Draco> yup
[03:36] <lazzareth> pi remove 640x480 form the /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[03:36] <oskude> lazzareth: and youre using dapper ? (without xgl&co) ?
[03:36] <lazzareth> without yes
[03:36] <lazzareth> and dapper
[03:36] <pulltab> CVirus: just waiting for pastebin, seems to be lagging
[03:36] <oskude> lazzareth: automatix or other 3rd party scripts ? ;)
[03:36] <lazzareth> oskude have the same problem?
[03:37] <pi> only remove 640x480?
[03:37] <lazzareth> nope
[03:37] <oskude> lazzareth: no, never heard about that :/
[03:37] <lazzareth> Ohh
[03:37] <lazzareth> Well, its weird.. doesn even prompt to log off
[03:37] <lazzareth> it just does
[03:37] <lazzareth> single click -> bam
[03:37] <oskude> lazzareth: have you looked if theres a known bug ?
[03:37] <pi> how can specify the default resolution withou cable?
[03:38] <lazzareth> And even when i navigate to the off button in the system menu, it preforms the same function
[03:38] <lazzareth> oskude, Nope i havent
[03:39] <oskude> !bugs
[03:39] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/
[03:39] <pulltab> CVirus: http://dark-code.bulix.org/ys1l35-19734 , those are the nmost recent erros
[03:39] <lazzareth> pi with no 640x480 wouldnt that make it auto -> 800x600 ?
[03:39] <pi> ok, I will try
[03:40] <lazzareth> pi BACK IT UP first :P
[03:40] <pi>  yes
[03:40] <pi> sure
[03:40] <oskude> lazzareth: maybe it doesnt even logoff, but crashes the x ?
[03:40] <pi> thanks
[03:40] <lazzareth> No it logs off, cause it asks me to save the session
[03:40] <CVirus> pulltab: I guess you have to generate SSL certificate
[03:40] <lazzareth> Im certain its logging off
[03:40] <oskude> lazzareth: and have you done something "not ubuntu way" lately ?
[03:41] <lazzareth> Define, "not ubuntu way" ?
[03:41] <CVirus> pulltab: locate cacert.pem
[03:41] <pwk> hi
[03:41] <CVirus> pulltab: give me the result
[03:41] <pwk> i got a problem installing linux
[03:41] <oskude> lazzareth: using repos that are not from ubuntu.com... installing with dpkg -i ....
[03:41] <pwk> it boots up the cd
[03:41] <lazzareth> Ask away, someone here will help
[03:41] <pwk> and it gets to the first menu screen, so i chose start or install
[03:41] <pwk> then it loads
[03:42] <lazzareth> oskude, Ahh yes, I am using an outside repo
[03:42] <pwk> but after a while
[03:42] <lazzareth> only 1
[03:42] <pwk> what is suppose to eb teh desktop,  its all green lines dwn throught the screen
[03:42] <lazzareth> but im sure i needed it for something at the time
[03:42] <damousys> hey peeps
[03:42] <pulltab> CVirus: Null
[03:42] <lazzareth> so im not sure if i should get rid of it
[03:42] <damousys> ive got a problem
[03:42] <pwk> and i can shut down via the keybioard.. so it s avideo drvier issue.. can anyone help ?
[03:42] <oskude> lazzareth: well, now its too late anyway :) (if something from that repo broke it)
[03:42] <damousys> when i try to install compiz
[03:42] <pwk> it worked on 5.10... but this new version won't go
[03:43] <pwk> its  nvidia geforece 6800 256mb vid card
[03:43] <Gabby_Hayes> pwk .. if you get a menu at the beginning,  choose the "safe"
[03:43] <pwk> i really want to install and learn linux
[03:43] <pwk> ok
[03:43] <pwk> i saw safe there
[03:43] <CVirus> pulltab: sudo apt-get install ssl-cert
[03:43] <damousys> with installing compiz and compiz-gnome it cant find his dependencies
[03:43] <lazzareth> oskude... Gahhhh... Well.. I dont have another 320gb lying around to reformat.. but ive been meaning to
[03:43] <pwk> then anything particualr i do ?
[03:43] <damousys> who can help
[03:44] <oskude> lazzareth: if we knew where that logoff button is (mayn gnome-panel, or so) then you could reinstall it from ubuntu repos...
[03:44] <Gabby_Hayes> then you will get more choices as you continue .. choose default, until you know it works
[03:44] <damousys> iam using these repo's
[03:44] <damousys> deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz dapper main
[03:44] <damousys> deb http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main
[03:44] <Daverocks> still no idea what's going on here =(
[03:44] <pwk> ok
[03:44] <pwk> brb
[03:44] <wickedpuppy> pwk, i got gforce 6600 ... no problem so far ... for 3 years and 5+ distros
[03:44] <pwk> hope it works
[03:44] <CVirus> !aptitude
[03:44] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[03:44] <pulltab> CVirus: already installed
[03:44] <pwk> it just fails to run live cd with the vid card running
[03:44] <lazzareth> oskude Thanks for you help eitherway
[03:44] <pulltab> CVirus: sudo apt-get install ssl-cert
[03:45] <lazzareth> its not like it will kill me
[03:45] <pulltab> oops
[03:45] <Daverocks> firefox still throws the same error message even if i chmod all the *.so files +x
[03:45] <pwk> thxs
[03:45] <pwk> bbl
[03:45] <pulltab> CVirus: http://dark-code.bulix.org/g8tr05-19735
[03:45] <lazzareth> i dont need to use anything other than.. shutdown
[03:45] <Gabby_Hayes> Daverocks   try:  $ dpkg-deb -I packages/firefox_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.1-1ubuntu12_i386.deb
[03:46] <Gabby_Hayes> Daverocks  have you installed any extensions or plugins, lately?
[03:46] <CVirus> pulltab: edit this file smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/ssl/cacert.pem
[03:46] <CVirus> pulltab: err ... I mean this argument
[03:46] <Daverocks> Gabby_Hayes: i have never started firefox successfully, i couldn't have installed any plugins or extensiosn
[03:46] <damousys> ill be back
[03:46] <Daverocks> *extensions
[03:46] <damousys> bye
[03:46] <CVirus> pulltab: /etc/posrfix/posfix.conf
[03:46] <CVirus> pulltab: typos
[03:46] <Daverocks> the out of the box install firefox did not start'
[03:46] <oskude> lazzareth: well, the solution could be "sudo apt-get install --reinstall foobar" but i dont know in which package that quit button applet is...
[03:46] <sparkleytone> postfix.conf?
[03:47] <sparkleytone> that doesn't exist
[03:47] <Daverocks> it is very, very strange
[03:47] <CVirus> sorry
[03:47] <sparkleytone> /etc/postfix/main.cf
[03:47] <CVirus> /etc/postfix/main.cf
[03:47] <pulltab> Thanks
[03:47] <Daverocks> Gabby_Hayes: and your command didn't work, "packages" directory doesn't exist
[03:47] <lazzareth> oskude, no doubt
[03:47] <lazzareth> and im clueless also
[03:48] <CVirus> pulltab: use /etc/ssl/certs/cacert.org.pem instead of /etc/postfix/ssl/cacert.pem
[03:48] <Gabby_Hayes> np,  you are not the first to have that similar problem ...
[03:48] <CVirus> pulltab: /etc/init.d/postfix restart
[03:48] <CVirus> pulltab: try to send an E-mail then paste me the log
[03:48] <Daverocks> Gabby_Hayes: could you point me to a relevant webpage regarding the problem? google didn't help that much.
[03:49] <Gabby_Hayes> Daverocks  .. try as bove:  $ sudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox
[03:49] <Daverocks> Gabby_Hayes: i reinstalled before, but i'll do again
[03:49] <Gabby_Hayes> Daverocks  .. just a sec ...
[03:50] <Daverocks> Gabby_Hayes: thx...
[03:50] <Daverocks> also i reinstalled just now and didn't fix it
[03:51] <pulltab> CVirus: Send email via mail <name@domain> or telnet?
[03:51] <oskude> lazzareth: maybe its in "gnome-applets"
[03:51] <foo> minerale: I followed that howto, but my user cannot login
[03:51] <CVirus> pulltab: doesnt matter I guess
[03:51] <lazzareth> ill reinstall that
[03:52] <errpast-wc1> off topic - Firefox on Ubuntu 6.06, when I SAVE a wiki page (pbwiki), I need to ctl-f5 to see change
[03:52] <oskude> lazzareth: but make sure it comes from ubuntu.com
[03:52] <errpast-wc1> even after cache set to 0 on FF
[03:52] <highneko> Where's screensaver config in gconf-editor for glmatrix?
[03:53] <Gabby_Hayes> Daverocks try:  $ apt-get install --reinstall mozilla-firefox
[03:53] <Daverocks> Gabby_Hayes: i just did
[03:53] <honk> hi
[03:53] <pulltab> CVirus: http://dark-code.bulix.org/brjxb7-19736
[03:53] <Daverocks> Gabby_Hayes: i think i've reinstalled it about 4 times now, and nothing's changed
[03:54] <Gabby_Hayes> Daverocks  .. I have been googling as 'ubuntu+firefox+dependencies'  and 'ubuntu+firefox+install'
[03:54] <CVirus> pulltab: are you sure you restarted postfix ?
[03:54] <Gabby_Hayes> Daverocks  are you using gnome, or KDE ?
[03:54] <pi> lazzareth, are you there?
[03:54] <Daverocks> Gabby_Hayes: gnome
[03:54] <Daverocks> i just installed ubuntu about 6 hours ago
[03:55] <Gabby_Hayes> I have had mine about 3 days
[03:55] <pulltab> CVirus: Certain.
[03:55] <Daverocks> the OOB firefox on all other distros i've installed has worked...
[03:55] <CVirus> pulltab: paste me your main.cf please
[03:55] <oskude> lazzareth: gotta go
[03:55] <Daverocks> ubuntu is great, but this is really weird
[03:55] <pi> is there any way to boot my dapper without monitor's cable connected with a resolution 800x600 and not 640x480 (default)
[03:55] <lazzareth> thanks oskude
[03:55] <Gabby_Hayes> Daverocks try:  $ apt-get -f install --reinstall mozilla-firefox   (again)  :-(
[03:56] <sidny4> Daverocks, what problem are you having with firefox?
[03:56] <pi> hi lazzareth
[03:56] <Daverocks> Gabby_Hayes: alright...
[03:56] <lazzareth> pi yes? sorry missed the question ?
[03:56] <^punisher> hi
[03:56] <pi> ok
[03:56] <Daverocks> sidny4: it won't start, it won't open
[03:56] <Gabby_Hayes> Daverocks  .. but run apt-get autoclean  first ...
[03:56] <sidny4> what kind of error do you get?
[03:56] <Daverocks> Gabby_Hayes: kk
[03:56] <^punisher> private
[03:56] <pi> i have tried to modify xorg.conf and remove 640x480
[03:56] <pi> nothing
[03:56] <pi> same problem
[03:56] <Daverocks> sidny4: nothing from the "firefox" shell script
[03:56] <lazzareth> So its still booting at 640x480 ?
[03:56] <lazzareth> Hmm
[03:56] <Daverocks> sidny4: but when i run firefox-bin...
[03:56] <pi> yes
[03:56] <sidny4> what kind of graphics card do you have?
[03:57] <pi> integrated in mainboard
[03:57] <Daverocks> sidny4: it says, libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:57] <pulltab> CVirus: http://dark-code.bulix.org/d7csta-19737
[03:57] <pi> epia 10000
[03:57] <kmaynard> pi, did you remove it from all color depths and restart gdm?
[03:57] <lazzareth> Well, No idea really, that was my best quess? ive never had to do that, (im on 1920x1440 right now )
[03:57] <pi> epia m10000
[03:57] <Daverocks> sidny4: when the file is clearly there
[03:57] <pi> sorry but now I must go
[03:57] <sidny4> Daverocks, what kind of graphics card do you have?
[03:57] <lazzareth> 'guess
[03:57] <pi> I return in 30 min
[03:58] <lazzareth> seya pi
[03:58] <Daverocks> sidny4: on this box, i think it's sis
[03:58] <kmaynard> pi, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:58] <Daverocks> sidny4: but all other graphic applications work :S
[03:58] <sidny4> Daverocks, ok, I've heard of issues with nvidia cards and firefox but no sis errors
[03:59] <babo> Is there a TorPark for linux ?
[03:59] <pluto> Last night I installed the KDE desktop, and since the install my login screen is over sized.  If I run dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg, will this solve my problem?
[03:59] <m14> pluma: probably
[03:59] <b03nto> babo: i dont think so, im using tor and privoxy 4 that kind of stuff
[04:00] <Daverocks> Gabby_Hayes: that installed a new package "mozilla-firefox" as opposed to "firefox", but neither "mozilla-firefox" or "firefox" works as a command
[04:00] <kmaynard> pluto, i dont know where it is in kde, but in gnome there's an option to set a default resoulution for your computer
[04:00] <Daverocks> this is really dumb, i'd expect firefox to work out of the box on ubuntu...
[04:00] <sidny4> Daverocks, try sudo /opt/firfox/firefox
[04:00] <kmaynard> without having to reconfigre...but, it is an option and it will work
[04:00] <BiSk-8> hello, is there any1 that can give me the name of a prog i can get through apitude or simply download that will let me extract a dvd onto my computer?
[04:00] <Daverocks> sidny4: will do
[04:01] <babo> b03nto, yeah, I want a 'clean' browser though. I'm sick of writing web code only to find that I've forgotten to reenable scripting in my browser ..
[04:01] <pluto> kmaynard: are you speaking of the default for the login screen, or the gui session?
[04:01] <triplc> hello everybody
[04:01] <Daverocks> sidny4: sure it's "/opt/firfox"?
[04:01] <tiny> crap ... alternate install process just died on me ... freezed the laptop
[04:01] <babo> b03nto, what have you done about the DNS issues ?
[04:01] <Daverocks> sidny4: maybe "/opt/firefox"?
[04:01] <tiny> damnit
[04:01] <sidny4> haha, oops, /opt/firefox/firefox
[04:01] <Daverocks> sidny4: /opt/firefox/firefox: command not found
[04:01] <Daverocks> with the sudo at the beginning too
[04:01] <sidny4> hmm, ok
[04:02] <b03nto> babo, what dns issue ? firefox xchat ..?
[04:03] <babo> b03nto, tor just anonymizes tcp. But dns works over udp, so it isn't anonymized. Which means that you're not actually anonymous at all...
[04:03] <pwk> hi
[04:03] <pwk> i went to safe mode.. and it fixed the video problem
[04:03] <Alzi> Hey. I am trying to set up a dual-boot system with Windows..... so I first removed Linux and tried to install windows. after some basic formatting and file copying i get the message "error while loading operating system". Can anyone help me with this? Guys, I know this is a windows question but I can't get good support for windows without money, so don't try to be too biased please.
[04:03] <pwk> but now i need help installing it
[04:03] <Gabby_Hayes> great to hear,  pwk  :-)
[04:03] <pulltab> CVirus: http://dark-code.bulix.org/d7csta-19737 (sorry if you got this already)
[04:03] <pwk> i get to the point where to mount the drives
[04:03] <CVirus> pulltab: edit this line smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/ssl/cacert.pem
[04:03] <pwk> but i have no idea what to do
[04:03] <pwk> can anyone help?
[04:03] <pulltab> spoke too soon :)
[04:03] <Gabby_Hayes> pwk,  a dual  boot system?
[04:04] <triplc> please help me: i need to run a mailing list server on ubuntu... i've tried "mailman" and "sympa" but i do not think i've found what i need.... could you please recommend a good one. need a mailing list server which has web-based interface for people to subscribe/unsubcribe and search and read the archive (like Yahoo group).
[04:04] <zoidi79> the xorg-version in edgy beta doesn't seem to like my box - it can't start x properly, and the messages in Xorg.log aren't helpful
[04:04] <b03nto> babo, really ..? i dont know that much :(, but i check via tcpdump it pretty self, or am i wrong on this..
[04:04] <wasabi> triplc: mailman is fine
[04:04] <CVirus> pulltab: change it too smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/ssl/certs/cacert.org.pem
[04:04] <Daverocks> even when i say "firefox -safemode" it doesn't make a difference
[04:04] <triplc> wasabi, i tried but cannot get mailman to have search feature
[04:04] <sidny4> does typing in firefox return anything?
[04:04] <b03nto> "i mean pretty safe" :p
[04:04] <pwk> where i have drop down menus for each parttion and it says i need a root and swap.. can anyone help me with this ?
[04:04] <babo> b03nto, ?
[04:05] <triplc> this is for the company (private list)
[04:05] <Daverocks> sidny4: no output unless i do "firefox-bin" from /usr/lib/firefox
[04:05] <lazzareth> I have a problem with my gaim encryption (version 2 beta 3.1) i tried to build it with the gaim-e package but with no success?
[04:05] <Ronz> hey yall...still having issues with nvidia drivers. i have installed nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common. i change my xorg.conf file, and i ctrl alt backspace, it stays on a black screen, no mouse or anything...any ideas anyone?
[04:05] <babo> b03nto, more like 'safer' ...
[04:05] <DethKlok> I installed apache2 php4 and mysql but when I try a test php page it just prompts me to dl it?
[04:05] <pwk> anybody ?
[04:05] <lazzareth> DethKlok did you restart apache etc ?
[04:05] <pwk> i need to get it installed in next 30 mins.. before i go
[04:05] <zoidi79> is AIGLX activated by default in edgy?
[04:05] <Daverocks> DethKlok: is the page you're trying "index.php"?
[04:05] <CVirus> pulltab: I gotta go for now .. try #postfix if the problem remains
[04:05] <muthana> Did anyone here speaks Arabic
[04:05] <Alzi> Hey. I am trying to set up a dual-boot system with Windows..... so I first removed Linux and tried to install windows. after some basic formatting and file copying i get the message "error while loading operating system". Can anyone help me with this? Guys, I know this is a windows question but I can't get good support for windows without money, so don't try to be too biased please
[04:06] <pulltab> CVirus: Thanks a lot!
[04:06] <DethKlok> daverocks: no its test.php off of the ubuntuguide.org page
[04:06] <DethKlok> lazzareth: yes
[04:06] <CVirus> pulltab: no problem
[04:06] <muthana> Did anyone here speaks Arabic
[04:06] <frogzoo> !fixgrub
[04:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixgrub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:06] <Daverocks> DethKlok: hm ok, because sometimes there's that download issue when it's index.php and you try GETting the root
[04:06] <frogzoo> !grub
[04:06] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:06] <m14> Alzi: have you active partition?
[04:06] <erUSUL> pwk: what's exactly the problem, you need two partitions (at least) for linux one swap (virtual memory) and one for everything else...
[04:06] <lazzareth> DethKlok are you accessing your test.php   by ->   http://localhost/test.php
[04:06] <frogzoo> Alzi: read about grub ^^^
[04:06] <BiSk-8> hello, is there any1 that can give me the name of a prog i can get through apitude or simply download that will let me extract a dvd onto my computer?
[04:07] <pwk> i have made a swap part. (9gb's and the main part. to install ubntu (80gb.s)
[04:07] <sivang> howdy all
[04:07] <sivang> can anybody plesae remind me the locoteams irc channel /
[04:07] <sivang> ?
[04:07] <kmaynard> BiSk-8, automatix has a dvd ripper in it
[04:07] <pwk> but i get to the point in setup where it goes about to mount
[04:07] <Alzi> frogzoo: erm.... what does grub have to do with a fresh windows install?
[04:07] <DethKlok> lazzareth: yes
[04:07] <m14> pwk 9gb too more
[04:07] <triplc> wasabi, is there a way to get search the private archive of mailman, please help?
[04:07] <pwk> i have drop down menus.. that let me select, root, swap.. and other for each part.
[04:07] <BiSk-8> kmaynard, thx
[04:07] <zoidi79> !aiglx
[04:07] <ubotu> AIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.
[04:07] <b03nto> babo, i read some article that say use Tor together with Privoxy, that prevents DNS leaks.. so is that true or bogus ?
[04:07] <sureshot> Alzi just put your windows cd in and let it do it thing from start to finish after it is down add what drivers you need then in stall ubuntu in that order
[04:07] <lazzareth> DethKlok, Im stumped :P
[04:07] <kmaynard> np
[04:07] <triplc> wasabi, if mailman arc can be searched then i'll run mailman
[04:08] <pwk> and i need help setting up that part
[04:08] <sivang> also, if there's anyone speaking/reading arabic here, I have an arabic speaker which needs help with some kind of general system error on his system, would appriciate if anybody could help him..
[04:08] <Ronz> hey yall...still having issues with nvidia drivers. i have installed nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common. i change my xorg.conf file, and i ctrl alt backspace, it stays on a black screen, no mouse or anything...any ideas anyone?
[04:08] <DethKlok> lazzareth: where in apache2 is it set to know php4 is installedd
[04:08] <tiny> I've checked CD .. it's valid
[04:08] <Alzi> frogzoo: I'm sure the message is from Windows since it's in Dutch and.. "Press any key to boot from cd.. (wait 3 sec) error while loading operating system" is what I get...
[04:08] <m14> sivang:  
[04:08] <kmaynard> BiSk-8, www.getautomatix.com
[04:08] <babo> b03nto, not that I'm aware of. There are some hacks out there. But none that work too well ... afaik
[04:08] <sivang> m14: sorry, can't read other then english here
[04:08] <skold> hi i've gota question about beryl: what nvidia driver i need to run it on dapper?
[04:08] <swilliamson> hey all I installed dapper on my dell Latitude Laptop, the only complaint I have is that when I put it on the port replicator, my mouse and keyboard work fine, however I cannot get the display to work on the monitor, only the laptops lcd, any ideas i cannot get an external signal
[04:09] <segfault_> Ronz, if no reboot ull likely need to modprobe nvidia before restart x
[04:09] <pwk> erUSUL, may i pm you to get help ?
[04:09] <kmaynard> Ronz, try installing it thru automatix...i swear by it
[04:09] <m14> skold: nvidia-glx
[04:09] <SpComb> Alzi: try a fixmbr in window's recovery console or perhaps try wiping the drive and installing windows afresh
[04:09] <Daverocks> Alzi: i think it's grub... i don't think windows ever says "error loading operating system"
[04:09] <b03nto> babo: anyway i read those article from here http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/howto-anonymous-communication-with-tor-some-hints-and-some-pitfalls
[04:09] <erUSUL> pwk: better ask the channel at large you willget more help
[04:09] <skold> m14: thx
[04:09] <erUSUL> !partitions
[04:09] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[04:09] <segfault_> Ronz, also make sure u  have the restricted modules pkg for ur kernel instaled
[04:09] <pwk> can anyone help me out?
[04:09] <sivang> m14: will you be able to help him? :)
[04:09] <erUSUL> !install
[04:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[04:09] <Ronz> segfault_, im pretty sure i do
[04:10] <Daverocks> Alzi: the problem might be that although you formatted partitions and everything, grub is still on the MBR, and it's causing problems booting windows
[04:10] <SpComb> Alzi: the windows isntaller should isntall it's own mbr and bootloader, after install windows there shouldn't really be any linux left on there
[04:10] <sidny4> pwk, ask your question(s), if someone knows the answer they'll help you out
[04:10] <Daverocks> actually SpComb is right
[04:10] <frogzoo> Alzi: couple of options - 1-reinstall windows, 2-fix windows MBR, 3-ignore it, install ubuntu, & use grub to boot windows
[04:10] <SpComb> Alzi: the fixmbr will make windows write it's mbr to the disk, so you can try that to be sure that it's there
[04:10] <b03nto> babo, i think that guy pretty paranoid...
[04:10] <segfault_> Ronz, try my first suggestion then
[04:10] <SpComb> yeah, those three are the options
[04:10] <pwk> in setup,  where it asks with those drop down menus to select what each part. is like  swap.. root and stuff like that.. i need help deciding what option to chose for each part.  can anyone help me please ?
[04:11] <nearfar`> I installed a few packages using apt-get that also installed some dependent packages. Now, I want 'remove' some of those packages, *including* the dependent packages (safely). So my question is how to find the dependent packages that were installed during the package installation and not used elsewhere?
[04:11] <Ronz> k...hold on segfault_
[04:11] <pwk> somebody must know....
[04:12] <highneko> Where's screensaver config in gconf-editor for glmatrix?
[04:12] <Alzi> frogzoo: Well.. what I did, was I made some partition scheme (from the windows installer, i deleted every partition and made a 40G partition), then selected that, it formatted the drive and copied the files onto it. Said it had to reboot and I got a message telling me i could press any key to boot from the CD... I waited, and i got the message 'Error loading operating system' in Dutch which I think GRUB would never say, except if Ubuntu's version was dutch..
[04:12] <pwk> ;l
[04:12] <sidny4> pwk, do you have partitions already set up? and is this going to be the only OS on the computer
[04:12] <m14> pwk: minimize ypu must have / and swap
[04:12] <segfault_> nearfar, try using -s option to apt-get to see what apt will decide if u agree then remove -s option to complete action
[04:12] <pwk> sidny4,  i have already vista and xp installed,  i have 2 parttions for ubntu, one for swap and other for ubntu
[04:12] <tiny> here we go again
[04:13] <pwk> i need help with someone guidng me through setup
[04:13] <sidny4> ok, swap should be set to swap and ubuntu one should be set up as /
[04:13] <pwk> theres drop down menus to select what each partion.. is like root, swap... etc
[04:13] <lazzareth> After failing to install gaim 2 beta 3.1 (thanks guys) i cant seem to uninstall it.. when Im only using ubuntu repo's & when i use synaptic & $apt-get install -reinstall gaim    it still installs & uses gaim 2.0
[04:13] <pwk> and my other part. can be left as the default media thing ?
[04:13] <nearfar> segfault_: NO. removing package A doesn't all remove the dependent packages that were installed previously because of A.
[04:13] <nearfar> I want to remove them too!
[04:13] <nearfar> because they are not used *after* removing A.
[04:13] <frogzoo> Alzi: this is while installing windows I take it - have you tried rerunning the install ?
[04:14] <sidny4> pwk, yup, what you're defining here is basically their mount points
[04:14] <pwk> ok thxs
[04:14] <pwk> off agsin to instasll
[04:14] <EkUmBa> hello
[04:14] <frogzoo> Alzi: how old's this comp ?
[04:14] <sidny4> haha, good luck
[04:14] <pwk> just didn't want to screw anything up
[04:14] <pluto> Will I harm anything by running dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[04:14] <Alzi> frogzoo: Yes. 3 times, actually.,
[04:14] <segfault_> nearfar, that is correct, ull need to do some investigation i.e. apt-cache show pkgA and read the deps, there isnt an easy to do the action you are describing
[04:14] <pwk> hopefully after that it installs
[04:14] <maxLF> Dr_willis: I got it to install, thx. I'm just trying to get the patch runner up now
[04:14] <pwk> and hopefully it will still boto vista beta
[04:14] <nearfar> segfault_: :(
[04:14] <sidny4> it should, and it shouldn't affect any other partitions
[04:14] <pwk> k
[04:14] <pwk> bbl
[04:15] <sidny4> k
[04:15] <pwk> thaxs again everybody
[04:15] <babo> Does anyone here have experience with ICQ ?
[04:15] <nearfar> babo: yes
[04:15] <EkUmBa> i have installed a win program with wine under ubuntu.but when i try to start the exe,the program doesn't find the "real" cd.what to do?...maybe it is becase my cd drive shows a lock as a symbol so the program can't verify it?
[04:15] <babo> nearfar: can I SMS to an ICQ account on my computer ?
[04:15] <frogzoo> Alzi: how old's the computer ?
[04:16] <babo> nearfar: can I program ICQ to parse incoming text and hand it off to a bash script ?
[04:16] <Gabby_Hayes> Daverocks  ... from what I can find,  it seems that some packages need all the *-dev files to install properly ... one of the dependencies may be looking for such a  -dev  file  (guesstimate)
[04:16] <nearfar> babo: I dunno. I use gaim for icq. But you can write a gaim plugin to do that (parse incoming text and do whatever).
[04:16] <babo> nearfar: or maybe just hand it off, with without the parsing ...
[04:16] <Daverocks> Gabby_Hayes: hmm
[04:16] <nearfar> babo: yes, write a gaim plugin -- gaim.sourceforge.net
[04:16] <babo> nearfar: can ICQ call up a web plugin ?
[04:17] <nearfar> babo: I don't know much about ICQ :/
[04:17] <Gabby_Hayes> pwk, my son has  XP-vista beta  &  ubuntu as a dual boot on an AMD64  system
[04:17] <babo> nearfar: but I can SMS my ICQ account yes ?
[04:17] <Daverocks> Gabby_Hayes: ah, found the problem
[04:17] <Daverocks> Gabby_Hayes: ~/.mozilla/ was owned by root
[04:17] <Alzi> frogzoo: Well... old, but I remember Windows used to install before.
[04:18] <nearfar`> foo
[04:18] <tkp> hi guys
[04:18] <Daverocks> Gabby_Hayes: chown'ing it fixed it
[04:18] <Gabby_Hayes> Daverocks  .. great .. post it somewhere ... may help many others  :-)
[04:18] <tkp> I'm trying to build the Helix Client on an ubuntu system...
[04:18] <foo> nearfar`: Yes?
[04:18] <tkp> problem is, Ubuntu has gcc v4.1
[04:18] <Daverocks> Gabby_Hayes: haha ok
[04:18] <Daverocks> Gabby_Hayes: thx for all the help you gave me
[04:18] <Gabby_Hayes> Daverocks  .. some of the stuff we overlook at times  ...  :-)
[04:18] <tkp> and the helix stuff will only build with 3.x
[04:19] <EkUmBa>  i have installed a win program with wine under ubuntu.but when i try to start the exe,the program doesn't find the "real" cd.what to do?...maybe it is becase my cd drive shows a lock as a symbol so the program can't verify it?
[04:19] <Daverocks> heh
[04:19] <dragonfire1> You will have to run right to the store and buy a version soon as its out.
[04:19] <Gabby_Hayes> np,  Daverocks  .. that's the idea  behind linux
[04:19] <tkp> anyone know how I can change the default gcc version that Ubuntu is using?
[04:19] <tkp> I could just symlink... but thats a bit lame and anoying
[04:19] <Daverocks> Gabby_Hayes: yes, community... :D
[04:19] <pluto> Please help: Will I harm anything by running dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[04:19] <tkp> wondering if Ubuntu provides a nicer way
[04:19] <frogzoo> Alzi: couple of things - which version windows ? you could try putting windows on the first partition (xp shouldn't care) - make sure you have LBA enabled in the bios
[04:19] <frogzoo> pluto: you may screw up your X, if it's working atm
[04:20] <sidny4> EkUmBa, what program is it?
[04:20] <Alzi> frogzoo: Version XP Home.
[04:20] <tkp> anoyingly the Ribosome build system does not honnor the ${CC} env var
[04:20] <pluto> frogzoo: my X login screen is oversized, and I cannot reszie.  Will this do the tirck?
[04:20] <tkp> I have installedan earlier version of gcc from apt-get
[04:20] <frogzoo> pluto: yes, if X screws up, you can just restore the backup copy of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:20] <EkUmBa> sidny4:is it gk1,a program for medicine
[04:20] <tkp> but how can actually set this as the default compiler?
[04:21] <fraggsta> So is edgy usable as one's primary (ie: sole) desktop now?  Yes I know about the dire warnings in the dev forum but I'm no newbie, I just want to know if things will break constantly if I install edgy.
[04:21] <gandalfcome> Easy question: How can I see what kind of display i'm on in X: 127.0.0.1:?. thanks in advance
[04:21] <pluto> frogzoo: Thanks for your help.
[04:21] <reymund> hello everyone
[04:21] <m14> hi
[04:21] <frogzoo> Alzi: maybe windows is being painful, check you have LBA enabled in the bios, then install XP on the 1st partion & you should get no complaints
[04:21] <Ronz> yay! i have an error message from xorg!  =)
[04:21] <dragonfire1> I will donate to Linux sytems prior to buying any OS
[04:22] <sidny4> hmm
[04:22] <Alzi> frogzoo: Alright. So fixmbr would fix it?
[04:22] <m14> Ronz: good man
[04:22] <Ronz> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Version mismatch detected between the NVIDIA X driver and the
[04:22] <Ronz> (EE) NVIDIA(0):     NVIDIA GLX module.
[04:22] <Ronz> any ideas?
[04:22] <frogzoo> Alzi: I doubt if, fixmbr will work only once you've done the initial install
[04:23] <m14> Ronz: Have you install nvidia driver from nvidia.com?
[04:23] <Ronz> m14, no. i just installed nvidia-glx
[04:23] <dragonfire1> reference to the partion person . I had difficultys in partioning . There is a post somewhere that I read in Oct that there is a bug in the sytem can't remember where I read that in ubuntu
[04:24] <Alzi> frogzoo: Dang.
[04:24] <m14> Ronz: Did your comment dri in xorg.conf ?
[04:24] <Ronz> m14, im pretty sure
[04:24] <Ronz> leme double check
[04:25] <Ronz> m14, yes, dri is commented out
[04:26] <EkUmBa> somehow the program is searching for the original disk,t verify it.under winxp it does work,cause i have the original cd.but ubuntu can'T find the cd
[04:26] <Ronz> m14, there was also a section at the end of the xorg.conf file that was "section DRI". i also commented that out
[04:28] <Evil> hello all
[04:29] <Alzi2> Hi again. I am on my server now so i can get support while installing win
[04:30] <tiny> there it goes ... freezed again at installing xserver package .. mofo
[04:32] <IceZone> <--nix newbie:  does the results of cat /proc/cpuinfo showing both processors indicate that ubuntu dapper is running smp ?
[04:34] <frying_fish> IceZone: yes.
[04:34] <EkUmBa> why doesnt wine find my original cd for a program?
[04:35] <sturmhaube> hi
[04:35] <dennda> hi. how may i completely disable edgys keyring manager?
[04:35] <Jahman> Hi
[04:36] <D-Line> .
[04:37] <Hitch> Ronz??
[04:37] <shinobi2> for mc, is there a why to show line numbers on the left? as it does for vim, emacs etc...
[04:37] <D-Line> how i do root login
[04:37] <djuuss> Hi, how do i put custom gamma/contrast/brightness settings for my x server?
[04:37] <Ronz> yes Hitch ?
[04:37] <Vulc4n> hey guys
[04:37] <D-Line> sudo passwd root is dont working
[04:37] <Hitch> did your nvidia work? Ronz
[04:38] <jamx> D-Line: sudo su
[04:38] <djuuss> D-Line, try sudo -i and then passwd from there
[04:38] <Daverocks> D-Line: sudo -i
[04:38] <Tonren> Can anyone tell me how to REMOVE Automatix's Macromedia Flash utilities, and reinstall them manually myself?
[04:38] <Tonren> Because my flash really isn't working.
[04:38] <Ronz> no i didn't Hitch . But...i have an error message and can try other idea's.   =)
[04:38] <Ronz> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Version mismatch detected between the NVIDIA X driver and the
[04:38] <D-Line> says sorry try again
[04:38] <Ronz> (EE) NVIDIA(0):     NVIDIA GLX module.
[04:38] <djuuss> Ronz: easy
[04:39] <Ronz> djuuss, you will be my best friend if i can get this working. Hitch is already one of my hero's.   ;
[04:39] <Ronz> *;)
[04:39] <D-Line> i dont determine root passwd
[04:39] <Hitch> hehe
[04:39] <D-Line> its command dont working
[04:39] <D-Line> says me sorry try again
[04:40] <djuuss> Ronz, clearly your nvidia x driver and nvidia-glx arent the same versions
[04:40] <Daverocks> D-Line: have you got a root shell from "sudo -i"?
[04:40] <Vulc4n> I seem to be having a consistent issue with the ubunut/kubuntu live cds
[04:40] <djuuss> Ronz, could you post your xorg.conf on pastebin?
[04:40] <Vulc4n> gnome/KDE don't seem to load correctly
[04:40] <D-Line> yes its working but i dont determine root passwd before
[04:40] <Ronz> djuuss, how do i go about making them the same version? the way that i understood it was nvidia-glx contains the nvidia driver
[04:40] <djuuss> !pastebin > Ronz
[04:40] <Ronz> djuuss, sure
[04:40] <Vulc4n> I get a mouse cursor and nothing else
[04:40] <pi> is there any way to boot my dapper without monitor's cable connected with a resolution 800x600 and not 640x480 (default)
[04:40] <gandalfcome> How can I see which display I'm on at the moment in X, eg 127.0.0.1:x ?
[04:40] <D-Line> Daverocks okay
[04:41] <Daverocks> gandalfcome: echo $DISPLAY
[04:41] <D-Line> working now thank you
[04:41] <Ronz> djuuss, do you want the xorg file or the Xorg.0.log file?
[04:41] <Daverocks> D-Line: np :)
[04:41] <djuuss> xorg.conf
[04:41] <Ronz> ok
[04:41] <Tonren> Can anyone tell me how to REMOVE Automatix's Macromedia Flash utilities, and reinstall them manually myself?
[04:41] <IceZone> anyone have a good how-to for setting up ubuntu and lvs?
[04:41] <djuuss> Ronz, also, did you edit it manually? And did you apt-get the nvidia drivers, or did you get them off the nvidia website
[04:42] <Daverocks> Vulc4n: at least X is starting... is the mouse cursor an X?
[04:42] <Ronz> djuuss, i edited it manually. used apt to install nvidia-glx, and edited the file with nvidia-glx-config enable. i also tried it manually, with no luck
[04:43] <Vulc4n> Daverocks: yes, it starts as an 'x'
[04:43] <Ronz> djuuss, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26072/
[04:43] <Vulc4n> then changes to a traditional cursor
[04:43] <kyja> Tonren, synaptic pachage manager>search>flash Uncheck flash stuff. and check what you want.
[04:43] <Daverocks> Vulc4n: so _something_ is loading
[04:43] <neenaoffline> I tried installing a package using dpkg , "dpkg -i package.deb"
[04:43] <neenaoffline> that package has a lotta dependencies
[04:43] <Ronz> djuuss, here is the xorg.0.log file also
[04:43] <Ronz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26073/
[04:44] <neenaoffline> it didn't work at that time
[04:44] <Daverocks> Vulc4n: have you tried killing X and running gdm manually?
[04:44] <djuuss> Ronz, your xorg.conf is not set up to use the nvidia driver. I see that from the "device" section, it says Driver "nv" instead of "nvidia"
[04:44] <savvas> g'day
[04:44] <Vulc4n> nope
[04:44] <Vulc4n> how would I go about doing that?
[04:44] <neenaoffline> now if I use "apt-get install somepack" it gives the same dependencies' error
[04:44] <Ronz> djuuss, i changed it back to nv so i can use my computer
[04:44] <Alzi2> .
[04:45] <Tonren> kyja: Does Automatix do anything other than installing packages?
[04:45] <savvas> can someone tell me which directory is the gnome menu icons?
[04:45] <neenaoffline> even after restarting or apt-get clean
[04:45] <Daverocks> Vulc4n: do ctrl-alt-F1 or ctrl-alt-F2 ... you should get a shell
[04:45] <savvas> er, not icons, the shortcuts
[04:45] <segfault_> Ronz, have ran apt-get update && apt-get upgrade to make sure u have the most recent version of nvidia-glx and kernel/restrictied modules?  also make sure u have booted into the most recent kernel
[04:45] <gandalfcome> Daverocks, okay it worked (forwarding from another machine) before I had dual screen but now it doesnt any idea I use 192.168.0.33:0.0
[04:45] <neenaoffline> It says to do
[04:45] <kyja> Tonren, no. it installs them thats it. but you should find most things it does install int synaptic.
[04:46] <neenaoffline> "apt-get -f install"
[04:46] <Daverocks> Vulc4n: once you have the shell, do something like "killall gdm; gdm"
[04:46] <Tonren> kyja: Cool, thanks
[04:46] <Hitch> Ronz, when it wasn't nv what was happenning?
[04:46] <neenaoffline> but that prompts me to install the first package
[04:46] <djuuss> Ronz, ah i see :) , well, like the xorg.0.log says, try to re-install everything related to 'nvidia', something has gone wrong when you installed those.
[04:46] <neenaoffline> which I don't want to install now
[04:46] <kyja> np
[04:46] <neenaoffline> what do I do ?
[04:46] <Ronz> Hitch, it will just come up to a black screen. i grabbed the error from the second link
[04:46] <Daverocks> gandalfcome: ouch... i haven't had much experience with setting up dual-screen in X... i just know the basic $DISPLAY variable lol
[04:46] <Daverocks> gandalfcome: sorry :(
[04:47] <gandalfcome> Daverocks,  thanks anyway
[04:47] <Vulc4n> Daverocks ctrl + alt + F1 and ctrl + alt + F2 don't seem to work
[04:47] <pwk> hi
[04:47] <pwk> i'm back again
[04:47] <pwk> now i having trouble with swap space
[04:47] <djuuss> hi pwk
[04:47] <Daverocks> Vulc4n: try ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:47] <Ronz> segfault_, booting 2.6.15-27-386. thats the latest on my box
[04:47] <Ronz> djuuss, i have reinstalled time and time again
[04:47] <pwk> what do i format the parttion for swap space ?
[04:47] <Vulc4n> negative Daverocks
[04:47] <dotwaffle> THere's a bug in a module of the Edgy kernel, any idea which package I should file a bug to?
[04:47] <pwk> and do i need swap parttion where i got 1 gb of ram ?
[04:47] <Daverocks> Vulc4n: and you can move the mouse cursor?
[04:47] <kyja> shame I could not get age of empires to work :-(
[04:47] <djuuss> Ronz, can you pastebin your sources.list?
[04:48] <Vulc4n> Daverocks: yep
[04:48] <Ronz> pwk, mkswap <partiton>
[04:48] <Ronz> swapon <partition
[04:48] <Daverocks> pwk: i have 1 GB of RAM, but i have 512 swap space anyway :P
[04:48] <Ronz> djuuss, sure
[04:48] <Daverocks> Vulc4n: so it hasn't locked up, and you can't switch ttys... weird
[04:48] <segfault_> Ronz, have ran apt-get update && apt-get upgrade to make sure u have the most recent version of nvidia-glx?
[04:48] <pwk> so in the parttion editor in the installer,  what file system i format the swap part. with ?.... linux-swap.. file system ?
[04:48] <Vulc4n> Daverocks: it seems really weird to me too
[04:49] <pwk> i was gonna do 4 gb swap space.. i must be crazy
[04:49] <Hitch> yes linux-swap pwk
[04:49] <visik7> !apport
[04:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apport - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:49] <pwk> when i go about in setup
[04:49] <pwk> it goes through install
[04:49] <pwk> but then it asks.. no swap where detected would u,like to continue
[04:49] <djuuss> lol
[04:49] <pwk> even though i did slect one
[04:49] <Hitch> yeah pwk u must be crazy max 2gb as swap
[04:49] <Vulc4n> same issue in both a kubuntu install and a ubuntu install
[04:49] <segfault_> pwk, yes u must be :) 2x ur RAM is generally fine
[04:49] <Vulc4n> as well as the live cds
[04:49] <vit_> hy all
[04:50] <pwk> not only that
[04:50] <pwk> it screwed my part.s up
[04:50] <Daverocks> pwk: are you sure that the partition you were selecting was formatted as linux-swap?
[04:50] <vit_> privet vsem ciuvakam :)
[04:50] <pwk> my vista part. is damaged and no longer boots
[04:50] <Hitch> man pwk do a partition which is linux-swap
[04:50] <Hitch> and it will work well
[04:50] <Daverocks> Vulc4n: what video card do you have?
[04:50] <pwk> now i gotta re-install vista
[04:50] <Hitch> windows vista?
[04:50] <yell8w>  eewwwwwwwwwwww 
[04:50] <pwk> yes,
[04:50] <Hitch> pwk windows vista?
[04:51] <yell8w>  did i hear vista ?  
[04:51] <Daverocks> what other vista is there? ;)
[04:51] <yell8w>  :P 
[04:51] <pwk> but i see the part. mager screwed up some part.s
[04:51] <Hitch> lol
[04:51] <Hitch> see yell8w
[04:51] <vit_> mmmm vista !!!
[04:51] <tiny> stop saying vista
[04:51] <tiny> ewww
[04:51] <Hitch> tell him to reinstall it in the garbage
[04:51] <Daverocks> xgl/compiz 0wnz aero glass
[04:51] <pwk> i'm gonna stop with linux i think
[04:51] <pwk> too hard even to setup
[04:51] <Daverocks> lol Hitch
[04:51] <djuuss> pwk: here, use this
[04:51] <Vulc4n> Daverocks: a 7800GT
[04:51] <pwk> i lost all my data
[04:51] <Daverocks> Vulc4n: nvidia, right?
[04:52] <Vulc4n> yes
[04:52] <yell8w>  pwk:  i find the ubuntu setup quite a breeze 
[04:52] <neenaoffline> err
[04:52] <yell8w>  compared to others 
[04:52] <Hitch> man it is too hard to install linux but it is also to hard to install windows each time every 2 months pwk
[04:52] <Vulc4n> I don't know if this means anthing... .but to install ubuntu I had to use the safegraphics mode
[04:52] <neenaoffline> did anyone read what I pasted up there ?
[04:52] <Daverocks> Vulc4n: i would ask you to have a look at xorg.conf, but you can't get a shell :(
[04:52] <Vulc4n> and to install kubuntu I had to use the alternate install cd
[04:52] <pwk> what about i install ubntu first
[04:52] <pwk> then windows xp and vista ?
[04:52] <Vulc4n> can I boot directly into a shell somehow?
[04:53] <Hitch> no pwk
[04:53] <djuuss> pwk, mnt /dev/null /mnt/windowsvista
[04:53] <Daverocks> Vulc4n: i had to use the alternate install CD for ubuntu as well.. but for different reasons... X was fine for me
[04:53] <Hitch> it will be hard to setup the grub pwk
[04:53] <neenaoffline> pwk: V**** hates GRB/LILO
[04:53] <pwk> so i gotta fix vista before ubuntu goes on ?
[04:53] <neenaoffline> *GRUB
[04:53] <djuuss> basically, yes.
[04:53] <neenaoffline> yes
[04:53] <pwk> grub won't work with vista ?
[04:53] <Hitch> it is better to setup windows first if u always want windows pwk
[04:53] <Vulc4n> Daverocks: well, the live cd for ubuntu actually worked for me in the safe graphics mode
[04:53] <Hitch> well pwk get rid of the vista!!!
[04:53] <Daverocks> Vulc4n: yep, driver problem
[04:53] <yell8w>  pwk:  why be a pawn with vista, it is probably not fixed/patched/stable till sp2 comes out  
[04:54] <neenaoffline> err....
[04:54] <neenaoffline> I tried installing a package using dpkg , "dpkg -i package.deb" . that package has a lotta dependencies . it didn't work .now if I use "apt-get install somepack" it gives the same dependencies' error . even after restarting or apt-get clean. It says to do "apt-get -f install" . but that prompts me to install the first package , which I don't want to install now . what do I do ?
[04:54] <Daverocks> Vulc4n: the difference between regular graphics mode and safe graphics mode is that safe uses the generic VESA driver
[04:54] <tiny> k .. so I boot of alternate CD ... I see there are install, expert, server, server-expert options that you need to type in at the _prompt_! But where is this prompt! If F6 is pressed I get a prompt but also some options. I tried entering expert at the end of those options but nothing new happened.
[04:54] <Daverocks> Vulc4n: whereas regular graphics mode is probably using "nv"
[04:54] <pwk> what if i tired a bootloader liek acronics ?
[04:54] <djuuss> pwk, use different drives, not just partitions for windows/ubuntu, to make sure you dont accidently mess with the wrong partitions
[04:54] <Vulc4n> Daverocks: but, at the same time the safe graphicsmode in the kubuntu live cd did nothing
[04:54] <tiny> How do you select available boot options?
[04:55] <rambo3> tiny: boot:
[04:55] <Daverocks> Vulc4n: that's quite weird
[04:55] <pwk> like could i not install grub,  and have acronis boot up linux and everything ?
[04:55] <Daverocks> Vulc4n: afaik, the safe graphics mode in kubuntu uses vesa, like ubuntu
[04:55] <neenaoffline> pwk: does acronics let you setup a background ?
[04:55] <neenaoffline> lol
[04:55] <tiny> rambo3: huh?
[04:55] <pwk> k
[04:55] <pwk> guess i might install ubuntu.. i want too
[04:55] <Vulc4n> Daverocks: it is weird... I have no idea whats going on
[04:55] <rambo3> tiny is there a "boot : " prompt
[04:56] <pwk> i'm in xp now
[04:56] <Daverocks> Vulc4n: my knowledge is quite limited ;)
[04:56] <pwk> where vista won't go past boot screen anymore
[04:56] <Vulc4n> can I do anything from the grub command ine?
[04:56] <tiny> rambo3: nope
[04:56] <Vulc4n> Daverocks: its clearly abit more extensive than mine
[04:56] <Vulc4n> all my experience lies in windows
[04:56] <pwk> the 5.10 version was easier to install
[04:56] <yell8w>  pwk: again, why be a pawn with vista, it is probably not fixed/patched/stable till sp2 comes out  ? 
[04:56] <djuuss> pwk, you do actually get the boot screen with vista? like, some windows logo with a progress bar i'd imagine?
[04:57] <Daverocks> Vulc4n: yeah... unfortunately you do get all these hitches with linux in general... you have to get used to solving them :(
[04:57] <pwk> djuuss, yes i do
[04:57] <pwk> but after boot screen it stops loading
[04:57] <pwk> and my part. mager tells me it go dmaged
[04:57] <rambo3> tiny what are you trying to install
[04:57] <pwk> so, i need directions on what to do
[04:57] <pwk> what u guys think
[04:58] <pwk> anyway of keeping vista too ?
[04:58] <pwk> like use a different boot manger?
[04:58] <Vulc4n> Daverocks: I booted to a command line I think
[04:58] <yell8w>  pwk:  did you get on this xp session using grub ? 
[04:58] <Vulc4n> what do I need to do to look at that log?
[04:58] <Daverocks> Vulc4n: ah, by changing kernel boot options? heh, why did i not think of that... :D
[04:58] <tiny> rambo3: I'm trying to install basic system and then install shit step by step ... but I can't get to the point when you choose packages
[04:58] <djuuss> pwk, ubuntu bootloader (grub) plays nice with Windows, just make sure you dont hose your vista installation while installing ubuntu
[04:58] <neenaoffline> pwk: IIRC you can install GRUB without reinstalling the OS
[04:58] <rambo3> tiny thats server install
[04:59] <Vulc4n> Daverocks: yeah... I figured I'd give it a try
[04:59] <micky2> hello all :)
[04:59] <pwk> so i can fix vista and then when vista gets it bootloader
[04:59] <pwk> try ubuntu again ?
[04:59] <djuuss> pwk, in short: Re-install vista, map out the partition setup you want before starting the ubuntu install, and be careful during partitioning.
[04:59] <Jimmey> Are there any programs I can use to record what goes on on my Desktop?
[04:59] <pwk> i'll have it on my second hard drive
[04:59] <djuuss> pwk, then it should be a walk in the park.. well, ok, swamp.
[04:59] <pwk> and i'll come here in windows to get help setting it up
[04:59] <yell8w>  lol djuuss 
[05:00] <tiny> If f1 is pressed you get:  install, expert, server, server-expert options that you need to type in at the _prompt_!
[05:00] <tiny> rambo3:
[05:00] <pwk> going to setup vista again
[05:00] <pwk> bbl
[05:00] <pwk> thxs guys
[05:00] <djuuss> gl
[05:00] <b03nto> Jimmey: i heard istanbul did that, but i never use it
[05:00] <savvas> what's the directory of the gnome menu?
[05:00] <Jimmey> b03nto, thanks - I just did an apt-cache search, and that looks like my best bet
[05:00] <yell8w>  djuuss:  where's the "swamp" part comes from ? 
[05:00] <Daverocks> yell8w: i think it makes it more difficult to walk. xD
[05:01] <apecat> hmm, will ubuntu egdy have biarch support on amd64?
[05:01] <yell8w>  lol  
[05:01] <tiny> I just hate "smart" installers
[05:01] <djuuss> yell8w,.. running Vista.
[05:02] <rambo3> spellchecker for x-chat too
[05:02] <micky2> i am trying to install this multiverse package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/libmotif3 . I have enabled the multiverse packages in adapt but when I type in "libmotif3" in adept's search box, no hits are found. If I try it manually "apt-get install libmotif3" it also doesnt work: " E: Couldn't find package libmotif3". Could someone help me out?
[05:02] <dragonfire1> 9
[05:02] <yell8w>  djuuss:  i thought u're talking about ubuntu  
[05:02] <kekos> hi
[05:02] <yell8w>  hi kekos 
[05:03] <Ronz> so after the network reset and much yelling / cursing, Ronz is back
[05:03] <Ronz> !pastebin > ronz
[05:03] <shuan> hello
[05:03] <Toppy> and the nvidia is it there yet Ronz?
[05:03] <Ronz> not yet, Toppy
[05:03] <shuan> i have jus tried kubuntu
[05:03] <dbingham> micky2: have you done "sudo apt-get update"?
[05:03] <kekos> ca you help me?? i'm trying to install the drivers for my ati x1400
[05:04] <kekos> but
[05:04] <shuan> now im thinking of going back to ubuntu
[05:04] <pwk> hi guys
[05:04] <micky2> dbingham: yes thats the first thing i did
[05:04] <Toppy> hi pwk
[05:04] <pwk> guess what.. it booted vista for some reason
[05:04] <pwk> now,
[05:04] <pwk> i need help setting up ubuntu
[05:04] <djuuss> yell8w, well, ofc there is the swampy part that grub might not setup vista correctly, accesing your windows files on ubuntu, hosing your windows partitions by writing to NTFS from ubuntu and getting unlucky...
[05:04] <Ronz> ok, i forget who was helping me before...but heres the pastebin of sources.lst
[05:04] <Daverocks> lol
[05:04] <Ronz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26078/
[05:04] <Toppy> we're here to help and get hep pwk
[05:05] <kekos> i cannot because the system is telling me that i have to execute that application as superuser
[05:05] <dbingham> micky2: the other thing that comes to mind is that sometimes the package name isn't what you'd expect.  Try "apt-cache search libmotif3" and see if anything looks relevant.
[05:05] <sportman> what drivers would work best with my ati9600
[05:05] <pwk> ok, will just try it out i guess
[05:05] <kekos> and there is no way to do it
[05:05] <sportman> its a mobility
[05:05] <hawkaloogie> kekos, sudo <command>
[05:05] <Ronz> kekos, use sudo <command>
[05:05] <pwk> do i need swap space ?
[05:05] <micky2> dbingham: ok trying now
[05:05] <tiny> pwk: ask specific questions
[05:05] <tiny> pwk: yes
[05:05] <tiny> you do
[05:05] <Toppy> yes u need swap space pwk
[05:05] <pwk> ok, can i launch ubuntu setup via windows ?
[05:05] <kekos> i have tried but it doesn't work
[05:05] <micky2> dbingham: no hits :(
[05:05] <yell8w>  djuuss:  k 
[05:05] <dbingham> micky2: the last part of the "apt-cache search _______" is actually a regular expression, so if you still can't find it, you might be able to get creative with your search and pull something out.
[05:06] <Tussius> hey all
[05:06] <Toppy> NO pwk
[05:06] <kekos> i executed sudo sh ./ati..........
[05:06] <Toppy> u should boot from ur cd pwk
[05:06] <pwk> ok
[05:06] <Daverocks> pwk: no, you need to boot from the ubuntu CD
[05:06] <tiny> pwk: don't know stoped using windoze 8 years ago
[05:06] <kekos> and it tells me
[05:06] <djuuss> Ronz, in your sources.list, uncomment the last two lines, then run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get install
[05:06] <pwk> can anyone tell me what to do at each option and i'll write it down.. so i don't screw up ?
[05:06] <Ronz> dj_baggio, ok
[05:06] <kekos> that it doesn't recognise that command
[05:06] <djuuss> Be right back, 20 minutes, gotta get some food etc
[05:07] <Tussius> I have a question (like so many other linux noobs)
[05:07] <pwk> bbl
[05:07] <pwk> gotta get dinner too
[05:07] <dbingham> micky2: other than that, I'm not sure what to tell you.  If you can find the package online, you can try to just download it and install it manually with dpkg.
[05:07] <pwk> this is a headacke
[05:07] <Toppy> well pwk at first u chose your language and location and then your keyboard
[05:07] <wickedpuppy> pwk, if you want this to be exact science you will never learn anything .. you will always be asking here for questions
[05:07] <micky2> dbingham: nada nothing ... surely if its shown here http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/libmotif3 it should appear under apt?
[05:07] <Tussius> how do I get my ATI Radeon mobility's TV-out to work?
[05:07] <Ronz> djuuss, "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:07] <Ronz> "
[05:07] <micky2> dbingham: yeah i think i will need to do it manuall
[05:07] <tiny> pwk: how about readin install docs
[05:07] <kekos> ca you help me?? i'm trying to install the drivers for my ati x1400
[05:07] <pwk> ok, then when it goes for the part. part. what i do ?
[05:07] <micky2> dbingham: *manually
[05:07] <Vulc4n> okay
[05:07] <pwk> wheres insok
[05:07] <oneseventeen> I'm trying to get samba working, and I keep getting "command not found" when I try to execute "wbinfo -u"
[05:07] <pwk> going to try
[05:07] <pwk> bbl
[05:07] <kekos> i cannot because the system is telling me that i have to execute that application as superuser
[05:08] <kekos> and there is no way to do it
[05:08] <dbingham> micky2: sometimes thats faster than trying to muck around with apt.  =)
[05:08] <Ronz> kekos, use sudo <install>
[05:08] <oneseventeen> how do I install wbinfo for Ubuntu, is it available for Ubuntu?
[05:08] <Toppy> then when u r up to the partitioner chose to manually edit partition table and then u make a big partition with an ext3 format and mount point /
[05:08] <Vulc4n> I need someone who can help me figure out how to install graphics drivers that will work
[05:08] <Toppy> pwk
[05:08] <dbingham> I am trying to do X11 forwarding using my ubuntu install as the server, but when I ssh in with ssh -Y, the DISPLAY variable isn't being set.  I do have 'X11Forwarding yes' in my sshd_config.  Any ideas what might be wrong?
[05:08] <kekos> Ronz, it didnt work
[05:08] <segfault_> kekos, sudo -i, will give u a root cmd prompt then exec ur cmd
[05:08] <Toppy> pwk then when u r up to the partitioner chose to manually edit partition table and then u make a big partition with an ext3 format and mount point /
[05:08] <micky2> dbingham: ok thanks for the help
[05:08] <dbingham> micky2: sure
[05:09] <Toppy> and another partition as linux-swap make it at max 2gb pwk
[05:09] <kekos> thanks segfault_
[05:09] <Toppy> and u finish as easy as that pwk
[05:09] <Ronz> any idea djuuss ?
[05:10] <DJ_Danni> Hello
[05:10] <micky2> dbingham: haha http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-91929.html :)
[05:10] <DJ_Danni> I have a Trabole to installing Mysql she say she cannoat find MySQL.
[05:10] <tuxedo_bertopeng> new comer....
[05:11] <dbingham> micky2: heh.  Good to know you aren't alone.
[05:11] <DJ_Danni> Anny idear what i can do?
[05:11] <fayez> hi, I am new to Ubuntu. I installed a library (libusb) through synaptic. But when compiling my c program that depends on this, i get error: undefined reference to [..symbols..]  - can someone help me?
[05:11] <wickedpuppy> DJ_Danni, how did you find mysql ?
[05:12] <wickedpuppy> fayez, are you programming c ?
[05:12] <DJ_Danni> What do you mean?
[05:12] <fayez> yeah
[05:12] <Ronz> fayez, try g++
[05:12] <wickedpuppy> DJ_Danni, how do you know mysql can't be found ?
[05:12] <wickedpuppy> Ronz, g++ is for c++
[05:12] <wickedpuppy> fayez, i would as in ##C ...
[05:12] <DJ_Danni> E: Package mysql has no installation candidate
[05:12] <wickedpuppy> *ask
[05:12] <Ronz> wickedpuppy, you can use a flag to compile ni c
[05:12] <Ronz> *in
[05:12] <DJ_Danni> this error do i get
[05:13] <fayez> whoa, i'm a bit confused
[05:13] <oneseventeen> How do I find out website visitors' Active Directory Username on my Ubuntu webserver without requiring them to log in to the website?  (transparent authentication)
[05:13] <wickedpuppy> DJ_Danni, apt-cache search mysql-server
[05:13] <fayez> i did an 'nm' on my libusb.so and found symbols that my prog is looking for
[05:13] <stojance> how can I strip ubuntu, probably xubuntu so I can use it for apache's httpd without any desktop enviroment, text mode like only, so I can use it on a 16MB RAM machine, laptop
[05:13] <POVaddct> fayez: add -lusb when linking
[05:13] <wickedpuppy> fayez, ask in ##C ... they got C pros there ...
[05:13] <fayez> POVaddct: okay! i'll try that
[05:14] <reitzell> is there a good x app to monitor who is currently logged into your system?
[05:14] <cpk2> stojance: if you get the alternate install then it doesnt install x at all I believe
[05:14] <fayez> ok thanks wicked
[05:14] <tiny> Any devs around?
[05:14] <stojance> yes but I need at least a terminal
[05:14] <stojance> ?
[05:14] <stojance> anit I
[05:14] <wickedpuppy> of course ...
[05:14] <cpk2> stojance: you get a terminal no matter what
[05:15] <DJ_Danni> Is this a command i shut use or what or how can i install Mysql in othere way?
[05:15] <tuxedo_bertopeng> shit....ga bsahabat bgt.....
[05:15] <b03nto> reitzell: something like "who" ?
[05:15] <b03nto> !id
[05:15] <reitzell> yeh thanks... I know that one :)
[05:15] <ubotu> join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[05:15] <wickedpuppy> DJ_Danni, apt-cache search mysql-server .. what does it show ?
[05:15] <stojance> and i can still do mkdir and such commands right
[05:15] <wickedpuppy> stojance, yes ... bash shell will still be available
[05:16] <cpk2> stojance: of course, without x means that you will only have a terminal, all the linux stuff will stuff work
[05:16] <MystaMax> hello, after updating my kernel vmware is not working. Its asking for the directory of C heaer files that matching my kernel? how do I find this information?
[05:16] <cpk2> will still work*
[05:16] <DJ_Danni> this mysql-server - mysql database server binaries
[05:16] <tuxedo_bertopeng> \j semarang
[05:17] <stojance> ok tnx
[05:17] <wickedpuppy> DJ_Danni, isn't it what you want ? sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[05:17] <tiny> Is there a way to choose packages at the beginning of the ubuntu install process?
[05:17] <erez> i have a problem in upgrading to edgy, is it the right channel?
[05:17] <DJ_Danni> There it is
[05:17] <DJ_Danni> Thang aloat
[05:17] <wickedpuppy> erez, #ubuntu+1
[05:17] <DJ_Danni> I was using a Wrong Command al long:D
[05:17] <AsheD> computer clocks are based off Jan 1. 1970, or something, right?
[05:17] <jon_> hey, is there a repository with gnome 2.16 for dapper?
[05:17] <wickedpuppy> DJ_Danni, no ... wrong package name
[05:18] <Ronz> hey...still having nvidia problems. "version mismatch detected between the nvidia x driver and nvidia glx module." anyone have any ideas?
[05:18] <jon_> AsheD: yes indeed
[05:18] <DJ_Danni> Mean that
[05:18] <tiny> AsheD: right .. unix time
[05:18] <tiny> starts there
[05:18] <micky2> dbingham: wh00t ... found it its under archive but not under gb.archive :D
[05:18] <AsheD> I was explaining to a friend why our bot was acting a bit odd
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[05:18] <DJ_Danni> Hey what shut i chose No Configration, Internet Site, Internet with Smarthost?
[05:19] <zygis> is anyone on edgy and experiencing gnome-panel crashes after today's upgrade?
[05:19] <DJ_Danni> What shut i chose?
[05:20] <wickedpuppy> DJ_Danni, you get this from mysql-server install ?
[05:20] <jon_> there a repository for gnome 2.16?
[05:20] <DJ_Danni> Yeas
[05:20] <DJ_Danni> Ubuntu Configration
[05:20] <cpk2> DJ_Danni: why are you trying to use mysql if you dont know how to use it?
[05:20] <wickedpuppy> DJ_Danni, ah what do you use it for ?
[05:20] <DJ_Danni> I know how to use it
[05:20] <wickedpuppy> cpk2, he is trying to install it
[05:20] <DJ_Danni> I using it for Webserver
[05:21] <DJ_Danni> With Databases
[05:21] <DJ_Danni> What sut i chose?
[05:21] <wickedpuppy> DJ_Danni, ah i have no idea what i chose ... choose one ?
[05:21] <DJ_Danni> ok
[05:22] <wickedpuppy> DJ_Danni, after all .. there is only 3 choices ... at most you install 2 more times
[05:22] <wickedpuppy> lol
[05:22] <DJ_Danni> ok goat it;(
[05:22] <DJ_Danni> ;)
[05:22] <REAL_FLEO> Does somebody know how to know if my wireless card is properly installed on an inpiron 8500 and dapper
[05:23] <jrbl> I am hoping someone can tell me the name of the application that gets the pictures from your camera when you plug it in, in Dapper+.
[05:23] <cpk2> I also think there are packages you can get in the repos that will auto generate your tables and stuff too if thats what you want to do
[05:23] <IceZone> anyone have a good how-to for setting up ubuntu and lvs?
[05:23] <cpk2> REAL_FLEO: it show up on lspci?
[05:24] <runenes> Can I update from warty to edgy safely?
[05:24] <jrbl> When I had Dapper installed, my digital camera worked perfectly.  But since upgrading to Edgy, when I plug in my camera, nothing much happens.
[05:24] <REAL_FLEO> what's lspci ?
[05:24] <DJ_Danni> ok woork GRATE but have to Enebale Root Password to phpmyadmin
[05:24] <jrbl> runenes, I think you can only go from dapper to edgy safely.
[05:24] <tiny> REAL_FLEO: man lspci
[05:24] <Daverocks> REAL_FLEO: it's a command that lists all PCI devices
[05:24] <REAL_FLEO> ok wait
[05:24] <gumby600m> How do I burn a CD with a 600 mb *.toast file.?
[05:25] <t-k-fu> gumby600m: rename it .iso, burn normally
[05:25] <runenes> jrbl, so, should I first update to hoary, then dapper, then edgy?? :)
[05:25] <REAL_FLEO> 0000:02:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless  LAN Controller (rev 02)
[05:25] <tiny> gumby600m: iso file?
[05:25] <THX-1138> t-k-fu: There is no extra information in the .toast extension?
[05:26] <REAL_FLEO> ok so I guess it's the driver
[05:26] <t-k-fu> THX-1138: nope, it's a straight-up iso
[05:26] <THX-1138> C-o-o-l
[05:26] <jrbl> runenes, I'm not sure.  I don't know if you can go from warty->dapper safely.  If so, then that would be the intermediate step I would prefer.
[05:26] <t-k-fu> or at least it was as of the last time i used a mac about a year ago
[05:26] <t-k-fu> don't imagine they've changed it since then
[05:26] <sportman> grrr
[05:26] <tiny> gumby600m: if it's iso file do something like: /usr/bin/cdrecord -v gracetime=2 dev=/dev/hdx speed=48 -dao -eject -data isofile.iso  ... wher hdx stands for cdrom device ..  replace x with a,b,c,d
[05:26] <gumby600m> Ahh.. I didn't know a toast is an iso...
[05:27] <gumby600m> tiny:  thanks!
[05:27] <runenes> jrbl, ok, thanks I'm gonna just try and see what happenes. doubt my home dir will be lost.. hopefully :)
[05:27] <jrbl> runenes, good luck.
[05:27] <THX-1138> !backup
[05:27] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[05:28] <DJ_Danni> Hey where do i go agen if i am gooing to chance the password to phpmyadmin?
[05:28] <oneseventeen> how do I get "wbinfo" to work on Ubuntu 6.06?
[05:28] <sportman> ./ati-installer.sh: 176: Syntax error: Bad substitution
[05:28] <sportman> :(
[05:28] <lupine_85> sportman: try "bash ati-installer.sh"
[05:28] <bthornton> Got an Edgy question; what's the channel?
[05:29] <sportman> lupine_85:
[05:29] <THX-1138> #ubuntu+1
[05:29] <lupine_85> if that doesn't work, then temporarily change /bin/sh to point to /bin/bash#
[05:29] <bthornton> THX-1138: THX.
[05:29] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows a GUI frontend to lsof? I've been googling around for a while now, but couldn't find anything working :<
[05:29] <sportman> first i run sh installer.bin
[05:29] <sportman> and then it autoruns that sh command
[05:29] <sportman> :(
[05:29] <gumby600m> tiny:  How do I determine which hd* is my cdrom/burner?
[05:29] <tiny> shout to alternate CD makers! FIX the F1-F3 menu!
[05:29] <lupine_85> sh = dash in edgy - hence the error
[05:29] <sportman> and it automatically deletes the temporary directory
[05:29] <tiny> shout to alternate CD makers! FIX the F1->F3 menu!
[05:29] <lupine_85> so change sh to point to bash temporarily, and all is well
[05:29] <THX-1138> Zaggen - maybe zenity???
[05:30] <sportman> how would i do that?
[05:30] <gumby600m> tiny: I have hda,b,c,d in my /dev directory
[05:30] <segfault_> lupine_85, really? what big change
[05:30] <Zaggynl> THX-1138, zenity?
[05:30] <lupine_85> an example would be sudo mv /bin/sh /bin/sh.old && ln -s /bin/bash /bin/sh
[05:30] <lupine_85> erm, another sudo after the &&
[05:30] <tiny> gumby600m: do you have /etc/fstab ?
[05:30] <lupine_85> it's a PITA and breaks many packages
[05:30] <tiny> cof course you have one
[05:30] <gumby600m> tiny: yes
[05:30] <tiny> check it for lines with cdrom
[05:30] <THX-1138> Zaggynl: simple scripting for a linux gui to any command.
[05:31] <lupine_85> of course, this should really be in #ubuntu+1 ;)
[05:31] <t-k-fu> gumby600m: dapper mounts the cdrom to /media/cdrom;you could use that
[05:31] <segfault_> lupine_85, hmm yeah seems quite odd
[05:31] <Zaggynl> THX-1138, sweet, thanks
[05:31] <lupine_85> !info dash edgy
[05:31] <ubotu> dash: The Debian Almquist Shell. In component main, is required. Version 0.5.3-3ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 82 kB, installed size 204 kB
[05:31] <lupine_85> !info bash edgy
[05:31] <ubotu> bash: The GNU Bourne Again SHell. In component main, is required. Version 3.1-5ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 771 kB, installed size 1852 kB
[05:32] <lupine_85> dash is "better" for command line (has cooler autocompletion), but it breaks many scriptsd
[05:32] <tiny> gumby600m: or do: dmesg | grep hd[a,b,c,d]  | grep CD
[05:32] <sportman> xorg is 7.1.1
[05:33] <gumby600m> tiny: thanks!
[05:33] <sportman> is that too new for the proprietary linux driver
[05:33] <sportman> ?
[05:33] <tiny> gumby600m: did you find it?
[05:33] <gumby600m> tiny: yes.. via dmesg:  it's hdac
[05:34] <tiny> hdac?
[05:34] <tiny> cant be
[05:34] <gumby600m> tiny: oops. i mean, "hdc"
[05:34] <tiny> ok
[05:34] <tiny> try birning the image now
[05:34] <tiny> *burning
[05:34] <gumby600m> I am...
[05:35] <tiny> gumby600m: you can use k3b gui also for burning CDs/DVDs but I like it this way ... much faster
[05:36] <gumby600m> tiny:   Yeah, seems like this is easier once I remember the syntax.  I tried xcdroast, but the gui was confusing
[05:36] <tiny> you can put that in a shel script
[05:36] <tiny> like this:
[05:37] <tiny> http://rafb.net/paste/results/BkzsCb33.html
[05:39] <tiny> Is there a way to pick installed packages before install process starts in Ubuntu?
[05:40] <tiny> or .. Is there a way to pick packages that will get installed before install process starts in Ubuntu?
[05:40] <eugman> How can I save the output of festival to a sound file?
[05:41] <stjepan> !aiglx
[05:41] <ubotu> AIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.
[05:41] <stjepan> !xgl
[05:41] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:42] <stjepan> !r300
[05:42] <stjepan> anyone here uses r300 drivers?
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about r300 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:43] <stjepan> I mean opensource R300 DRI drivers for ATI Radeon >= 9600 cards
[05:43] <kosnick> has anyone installed mplayer in ubuntu?
[05:43] <Daverocks> !anyone
[05:43] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:43] <xav> Daverocks, :)
[05:43] <Daverocks> :D
[05:43] <xav> you stole it from me
[05:43] <Daverocks> haha sorry =)
[05:44] <kosnick> daverocks : i search the synaptic and i onpy find kmplayer???
[05:44] <eugman> kosnick, a search at wiki.ubuntu.com should givr you alot of information if you just want to know how.\
[05:44] <xav> kosnick, it isn't in main repo
[05:44] <kosnick> xav : i have installed all the repos
[05:44] <Daverocks> kosnick: i haven't had that much experience with ubuntu packages.. other people would be able to help you better
[05:44] <xav> !mplayer
[05:44] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[05:44] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[05:44] <kosnick> daverocks : ok
[05:45] <IceZone> !LVS
[05:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about LVS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:45] <THX-1138> xav you can pipe the bot replies   !<item> > <nick>
[05:45] <xav> THX-1138, oh right, thanks
[05:46] <eugman> I need some help with festival
[05:46] <Jhonny1009> hello all
[05:47] <eugman> Hello
[05:47] <Jhonny1009> where can I find what software is included in the original cd?
[05:47] <kosnick> well i THOUGHT i had all the repos installed .... anyway thx guys
[05:47] <THX-1138> d
[05:47] <manni18> e
[05:47] <Jhonny1009> f
[05:47] <manni18> g
[05:48] <eugman> Jhonny1009, Well I think that there .manifest files that are on the same site as the cd files would have a file list but I'm sure there is a better way.
[05:48] <mrmknet> hi
[05:49] <Jhonny1009> thx eugman, i'll check it out
[05:49] <mrmknet> hi there
[05:49] <THX-1138> irssi and screen - still a bit shakey. - sry.   really handy for searching answers if you record the channel
[05:49] <eugman> mrmknet, if you have a problem feel free to ask it.
[05:49] <mrmknet> I want to enter the world of linux
[05:49] <mrmknet> some friends recommended ubuntu
[05:49] <jadacyrus> Really wierd, normal and beta nvidia drivers cause my screen to bug out and turn completely white after a couple minutes of use..(Nvidia GO 7400) (Edgy)
[05:49] <mrmknet> can i install it beside windows?
[05:50] <eugman> mrmknet, yes you can have both ont he same computer . It's called dual-booting.
[05:50] <RogerBacon> mrmknet : yes with grub (is a bootloader)
[05:50] <mrmknet> is the boot loader configured automatically during installation?
[05:50] <eugman> Have you backed up your essential files? Murphey's law is in effect when resizing partitions. Yes grub is configured on installation.
[05:50] <savvas> I've install linux-k7 successfully, can i remove linux-386 with --purge?
[05:50] <RogerBacon> mrmknet : normaly yes
[05:50] <savvas> *installed
[05:51] <mrmknet> does ubutu supports the hyper-threading processors?
[05:51] <RogerBacon> mrmknet : yes
[05:51] <THX-1138>  smp kernels
[05:51] <mrmknet> is arabic supported?
[05:52] <kash> mrmknet: no, arabs suck.
[05:52] <kash> indians are better.
[05:52] <THX-1138> arabic - yes, Ubuntu includes support for everything.
[05:52] <kash> thus Devanagari is better.
[05:52] <RogerBacon> yes, chek this : https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-ol10n-ar
[05:52] <kash> foad, arab!
[05:53] <mrmknet> can you be more decent
[05:53] <mrmknet> ?
[05:53] <eugman> kash, yeah that was a bit sophmoric.
[05:53] <kash> sorry.
[05:53] <kash> i mean.. foad, towel-head.
[05:53] <RogerBacon> .... Wellcome to Ubuntu Arabic Translators team : https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-ol10n-ar (for more info)
[05:54] <kash> mrmknet: are you a terrorist?
[05:54] <eugman> kash stop being an idiot
[05:54] <Daverocks> kash, shut up
[05:54] <kash> eugman: stop being a bitchtits.
[05:54] <RogerBacon> kash : rolf
[05:54] <b03nto> yeah kash shut up
[05:54] <kash> roger
[05:54] <RogerBacon> kash : lol, bann kash
[05:55] <mrmknet> Kash: I think it is better not to talk with someone like you.
[05:55] <b03nto> kash:whats wrong with u, to much media..?
[05:55] <THX-1138> lol - all arabs, persians are related to terorists. - you 'mericans are laughable.
[05:55] <kash> mrmknet: then fucking ignore me, you shit-on-a-stick.
[05:55] <vladas> hello
[05:55] <vladas> what can i do to make my internet work normal
[05:55] <kash> THX-1138: i'm just trolling. and i'm not american :p
[05:55] <boink> !language
[05:55] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:55] <kash> < Indian.
[05:55] <vladas> it's working very slow, while it should be alot better that it is right now
[05:55] <boink> c'mon, kiddies .. let's stay on topic
[05:56] <jadacyrus> Anyone here have a nvidia go 7400 ?
[05:56] <THX-1138> boink - Thanks - quite right.
[05:56] <kash> india should fucking bomb all of the middle east.
[05:56] <eugman> Can anyone tell me how to store the output of festival
[05:56] <boink> I was wondering if one is meant to use http://localhost:631/ ?
[05:56] <yokobr> hey folks
[05:56] <vladas> anyone?
[05:56] <THX-1138> eugman - give me a sec. do you need a gui?
[05:56] <boink> or is the intension that you only use the printer thing
[05:56] <kosnick> "best" audio player?
[05:56] <yokobr> i need libstdc++.so.5
[05:56] <cpk2> vladas: i think you need to be a bit more specific
[05:57] <RogerBacon> vlads : do you use firefox ?
[05:57] <vladas> yeah
[05:57] <boink> there are many audio players out there
[05:57] <RogerBacon> vlads : try to disable ipv6
[05:57] <boink> xmms is a nice one, but somewhat old now
[05:57] <kosnick> boink : like ? amarok maybe?
[05:57] <eugman> Thx-1138, No I've been able to use festival --tts sucessfully and just want to save the result now.
[05:57] <vladas> how?
[05:57] <boink> amarok, sure
[05:57] <kosnick> boink : good one?
[05:57] <boink> try them all and see which one you like
[05:57] <boink> xmms is good
[05:57] <kosnick> boink : ok thx
[05:57] <segfault_> boink, that page for setting up cupsd, ubuntu has some patches to make that not work as expected, so u use the printer thing, see the forums for solution if u want to use cups interface
[05:57] <boink> but the problem is that it's a little aged
[05:58] <cpk2> i just started amorok from xmms and am really impressed with amorok
[05:58] <boink> ok
[05:58] <cpk2> amarok too
[05:58] <RogerBacon> vlad : in adress bar : about:config and search ipv6 and enable it
[05:58] <vladas> how can i disable ipv6 in firefox?
[05:58] <vladas> ok thanks
[05:58] <boink> it was a little confusing .. should I use cups or the printer thing
[05:58] <THX-1138> eugman - ok, - i didn't see your reply. was going to suggest audacity
[05:58] <THX-1138> brb
[05:58] <RogerBacon> vlads : let me know if it work
[05:58] <boink> cpk2: ta for the tip
[05:58] <segfault_> boink, its personal preference i like the cups interface
[05:59] <Turki_Al-Marri> Hi, does any body know which repository contains KDevelop?
[05:59] <boink> I'm just used to using the cups internet
[05:59] <vladas> RogerBacon: I think it works:) thanks:)
[05:59] <boink> duh .. interface
[05:59] <cpk2> boink: not to mention amarok is good if you have a HUGE library since it uses a sql db so you dont get the slowdown from your list like xmms does
[05:59] <yokobr> guys, im trying to run unreal 2004, but asks for libstdc++.so.5
[05:59] <eugman> Turki, I can take a quick look if you'd like
[05:59] <segfault_> boink, then go for it
[05:59] <RogerBacon> vladas : no problem :D
[05:59] <Turki_Al-Marri> eugman: thanks
[05:59] <yokobr>  guys, im trying to run unreal 2004 on ubuntu 64 bit, but asks for libstdc++.so.5
[06:00] <eugman> turki, universe it looks like.
[06:00] <jadacyrus> Really wierd, normal and beta nvidia drivers cause my screen to bug out and turn completely white after a couple minutes of use..(Nvidia GO 7400) (Edgy)
[06:00] <boink> what's the .deb called for beep media?
[06:00] <IceZone> anyone up on clustering?
[06:00] <THX-1138> eugman - audacity has command line arguments. - there are easier ways if all you need is a bash script. check sysnaptic for  "recording"
[06:00] <Hitch> sudo apt-get install libstdc++.so.5
[06:00] <eugman> boink, you mean timidity?
[06:00] <joff> hi guys nobody coul help me with  a Aspire 5020 and a bcm4318?
[06:00] <Hitch> yokobr, sudo apt-get install libstdc++.so.5
[06:00] <kash> Q: Why was stonehenge abandoned?
[06:00] <THX-1138> s/sysnaptic/synaptic/g
[06:00] <kash> A: It wasn't IBM-compatible.
[06:01] <yokobr> found nothing
[06:01] <segfault_> yokobr, apt-cache search libstdc++
 sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[06:01] <eugman> THX-1138, is it possible to pipe the output from festival to audacity like one might with normal text and the | operator?
[06:01] <segfault_> YogSothoth, Hitch that is a file name not a pkg name
[06:01] <boink> I mean the beep-media-player
[06:02] <THX-1138> eugman - I haven't tried that. - sorry.
[06:02] <joff> hi guys nobody coul help me with  a Aspire 5020 and a bcm4318?
[06:02] <yokobr> still installed
[06:02] <eugman> !patience
[06:02] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:03] <segfault_> yokobr, that will just show u the available pkg names matching ur search, pick one and apt-get install it
[06:03] <THX-1138> everything in linux is either a file or a stream. - worth a try
[06:04] <b03nto> my aterm font is messy, is there anyway to fix it ?
[06:05] <Gavrila> hello,is there any repository for gnome 2.16 on dapper?
[06:05] <johnjosephbachir> hi... could someone direct me to the documentation regarding upgrading a system using apt-get?
[06:05] <Gavrila> man apt-get?
[06:06] <Turki_Al-Marri> Use synaptic, easier
[06:06] <johnjosephbachir> i mean, upgrading from breezy to dapper
[06:06] <cpk2> Turki_Al-Marri: all personal preference, I think apt-get is easier =P
[06:06] <jack24> hi guys does ubuntu live cd support centrino wireless ipw2200
[06:06] <Turki_Al-Marri> jack24:yes
[06:06] <Daverocks> johnjosephbachir: then you'll need a dapper install CD (i think)
[06:06] <Turki_Al-Marri> I'm running it
[06:06] <Gavrila> look for dapper source.list on google (and into unbuntu.org)
[06:07] <Gavrila> anyway no one using gnome 2.16 on dapper?
[06:07] <paul0> hi, anyone can access the url http://www.makira.com.br/ ?
[06:07] <melon> sorry for jumping in with another problem.. is it possible to see what programs are running? if so.. how?
[06:07] <jadacyrus> Is there a way I can log what happening in my X server before it crashes?
[06:07] <johnjosephbachir> and also where can i see what packages are available on dapper before i upgrade?
[06:07] <kyja> so ummmmm. There is no way for me to play Age of Empire with wine aye?
[06:07] <LjL> melon: "ps aux"
[06:07] <Gavrila> melon ps aux
[06:07] <paul0> i've installed firefox, but my brother just can't open this url
[06:07] <Turki_Al-Marri> melon: ps -A
[06:07] <raghu206> how is Gizmo different from other IM?
[06:08] <jack24> http://ftp.ticklers.org/releases.ubuntu.org/releases/6.06/
[06:08] <jack24> is the live cd the desktop cd?
[06:08] <melon> thanks :)
[06:08] <fatbrain> !ntfs
[06:08] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:08] <Hitch> has anyone tried firefox 2 RC2 on linux
[06:08] <Turki_Al-Marri> jack24: the liveCD is the installCD
[06:08] <fatbrain> !fuse
[06:08] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[06:08] <Hitch> ??
[06:09] <jack24> Turki_Al-Marri i have the alternate cd would this work
[06:09] <kishore> ubotu, gizmo
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gizmo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <Turki_Al-Marri> I suppose the drivers are the same
[06:09] <jadacyrus> Is there a way I can log what happening in my X server before it crashes?
[06:09] <apokryphos> jadacyrus: X log is in /var/log
[06:09] <jadacyrus> k
[06:09] <jack24> Turki_Al-Marri but would it work as a live cd with a desktop inteface?
[06:10] <mAIJK> Whats wrong with my ubuntu? I have 100Mbit ISP but I cant download faster then 10kbit/sek ?? Strange!
[06:10] <Daverocks> mAIJK: what are you downloading _from_?
[06:10] <mAIJK> Ftp/http/torrents
[06:10] <cpk2> jack24: the alternate cd is not the live cd
[06:11] <mAIJK> I download Nvidia drivers from nvidia now in 3.5kb/sek
[06:11] <mAIJK> Firefox
[06:11] <jack24> cpk2 the desktop cd is the live cd?
[06:11] <cpk2> jack24: yeah
[06:11] <jack24> thx
[06:11] <apokryphos> !live
[06:11] <ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[06:12] <jack24> so i cant do it from alternate
[06:12] <cpk2> you cant run off the cd to make sure your system will work right out the box, no
[06:12] <Blippe> i got two Xsessions running with the same username, and want to "steal" one program from one to the other, is that possible?
[06:13] <pi> I want to start my dapper without monitor's cable, but not to 640x480! Any idea?
[06:14] <THX-1138> Blippe - short answer yes. - lo-o-ng arcane explanation and demeonstration of dust unix commands. make it for most (like me impossible)
[06:14] <Blippe> THX-1138, wonderful... I will start researching the matter instantly
[06:15] <THX-1138> Blippe - if memory serves. chgrp was one of those dusty commands
[06:16] <ShackJack> Anyone here have any luck getting ATI drivers going under edgy?
[06:16] <LjL> !edgy
[06:16] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:17] <ShackJack> Tried everything, but DRI won't initialize.... Reads openmesa
[06:17] <neenaoffline> I did "gphotofs /media/cam/" and then "cd /media/cam/" then "ls" and I get  "ls: reading directory .: Numerical result out of range"
[06:18] <monkey89> with mythtv/edgy, i cant seem to get recorded streams to play - mythweb just says the file "does not exist in the recordings directory."
[06:18] <LjL> !edgy
[06:18] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[06:19] <ShackJack> Anyone? Of 950 ppl - anyone?
[06:19] <THX-1138> monkey89 - Can i ask you an unrelatted question? - What app is best for reording from the command line?
[06:19] <eugman> !patience
[06:19] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:19] <monkey89> THX-1138: since i have a pvr-150 i can just do cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg or something like that.
[06:20] <psyoptik> I am having trouble setting up an NX server on my system. When I try to install or query the status of the server I get the error
[06:20] <psyoptik> "NX> 900 ssh: connect to host 127.0.0.1 port 22: Connection timed out" or "NX> 700 WARNING: NX> 203 NSSH running with pid:7672 .sh: connect to host 127.0.0.1 port 22: Network is unreachable". Any help?
[06:20] <monkey89> THX-1138: cron for timed recordings.  if i need command line im not fancy
[06:20] <eugman> Is there a comand line program which can capture the sound output to the speakers?
[06:20] <THX-1138> monkey89 - That is great - Thank You very much.
[06:20] <neenaoffline> !gphotofs
[06:20] <ubotu> gphotofs: A libgphoto2 FUSE filesystem module. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 8 kB, installed size 60 kB
[06:21] <monkey89> and i fixed my own bug.  something is hard coded in mythweb
[06:21] <THX-1138> eugman - Have you begun to ownder if cat /dev/snd > file.wav is possible? - me too.
[06:22] <psyoptik> anyone know anything about NX servers or VNC?
[06:22] <pike__> psyoptik: many here i expect. whats the question?
[06:23] <ShackJack> Ah... kernel and graphics drivers updates just came in - hopefully that will allow me to run ATI card..
[06:24] <psyoptik> i asked it, But to mention again I am having problems setting up a NX server. I keep getting connection errors when checking the status of it on the host machine. I also had problems with VNC servers, in case anyone knows about them too.
[06:24] <pike__> psyoptik: same problems with vnc and freenx to 127.0.0.1 ?
[06:25] <jsilva> hi
[06:25] <setuid> We've just added another PPC64 server online for public access...
[06:25] <setuid> http://ibm.gnu-designs.com/openpower.html#en
[06:25] <setuid> If anyone is interested
[06:25] <pike__> psyoptik: i would check iptables.  sudo iptables -L input outbound and forward should be set to accept by default with no other rules
[06:26] <psyoptik> seems like it...the VNC problem was something with VNC auth. I'm trying NX because I thought it would be easier and more secure....but yes, it cannot connect to 127.0.0.1.
[06:26] <psyoptik> ok I'll try that
[06:26] <fayez> hi all, I am new to IRC - does anyone know of a channel I can go to for IRC help?
[06:26] <pike__> psyoptik: for vnc try vncpasswd and set a password
[06:26] <mAIJK> Hi, Im running Ubuntu i386 and have upgraded my computer to amd64, is it possible to upgrade my dist to 64 or do I have to reinstall everything???
[06:27] <jsilva> I am compiling mplayer with framebuffer support, but audio has noise, am I missing a library?
[06:27] <pike__> psyoptik: all i had to do on my default ubuntu box was apt-get vncserver and do vncpasswd and then run the server vncserver :01  or whatever and it worked
[06:27] <psyoptik> I did that...and I could connect from a computer within the network, but if I used an offsite computer, it said it couldn't authenicate
[06:28] <psyoptik> this is why I get frustrated, because setting up these things never work as simple as that
[06:28] <J-_> i'm running a LAMP server, install ubuntu on it, and using Webmin as a gui. when i start apache there's a syntax error on line 392 of etc/apache2/apache2.conf:, it states the port was replaced with listen in apache 2.0 .....fail!" what should i do? i made a static ip for the machine, i opened 8080 since my isp blocks 80, and there's still no communication
[06:28] <psyoptik> and the iptables are set to accept
[06:28] <lore> hi
[06:29] <pike__> psyoptik: so an outside connection gets prompted for password or doesnt get that far? only other thing other than like if you have edited /etc/host.allow and such is the router..
[06:30] <psyoptik> it prompts for password, like the in network computer did, but then it said it could not authenicate
[06:30] <pike__> psyoptik: thats something i would get at work because of their firewalls i have to use like port 443 or something for connections
[06:30] <lore> can someone tell me where can i find a dapper package of firefox 2 RC2?
[06:31] <fick> "sudo su password , ./ndiswrapper_setup" = permission denied .... why is this???
[06:31] <pike__> psyoptik: i get the same problem if i try to use 5901 from work
[06:31] <baddhabit> Hello all
[06:31] <psyoptik> hmm...ok
[06:31] <theqkash> hello all
[06:31] <baddhabit> How do I get in line to ask  a question
[06:31] <psyoptik> should I set the router to forward the port 443 to 5900?
[06:32] <theqkash> i have a problem with filesystem:(
[06:32] <theqkash> Warning: Unknown: open(/var/lib/php5/sess_WF8KrKgTnquoD9XqwOhUm0G,-Ef, O_RDWR) failed: Read-only file system (30) in Unknown on line 0
[06:32] <theqkash> Warning: Unknown: Failed to write session data (files). Please verify that the current setting of session.save_path is correct (/var/lib/php5) in Unknown on line 0
[06:32] <segfault_> J-_, apache syntax to specify listen on port 8080 would be Listen 8080
[06:32] <theqkash> similar errors in everywhere
[06:32] <J-_> hmm
[06:33] <theqkash> please, help
[06:33] <valcom> Hello
[06:33] <allison_1984> theqkash, just ask the question...........
[06:33] <baddhabit> Can someone tell me what all packages I need to compile stuff
[06:33] <yell8w>  baddhabit:  what do you need ? 
[06:33] <ChaosFan> baddhabit: build-essential, maybe autmake
[06:33] <theqkash> Warning: session_write_close() [function.session-write-close] : open(/var/lib/php5/sess_WF8KrKgTnquoD9XqwOhUm0G,-Ef, O_RDWR) failed: Read-only file system (30) in /usr/share/phpmyadmin/libraries/common.lib.php on line 1084
[06:33] <theqkash> Warning: session_write_close() [function.session-write-close] : Failed to write session data (files). Please verify that the current setting of session.save_path is correct (/var/lib/php5) in /usr/share/phpmyadmin/libraries/common.lib.php on line 1084
[06:34] <theqkash> i can see similar errors EVERYWHERE
[06:34] <theqkash> there IS disk space
[06:34] <theqkash> *ARE
[06:34] <valcom> JMicron PATA/SATA Controller work actually with the beta of ubuntu ?
[06:34] <theqkash> but errors too:(
[06:34] <ChaosFan> theqkash: remount the filsystem writeable
[06:34] <Bazzi> theqkash: but its readonly
[06:34] <ChaosFan> theqkash: option "rw"
[06:34] <fick> "sudo su password , ./ndiswrapper_setup" = permission denied .... why is this??? <---- can anybody answer why i dont have the permission to run a shell script as a superuser
[06:34] <Bazzi> valcom: not with the beta I think, but with recent nightlies
[06:34] <matju> anyone has Logitech QuickCam 4000 working with Linux/PPC ?
[06:35] <GoldKeeper> its sudo -s
[06:35] <mAIJK> Im trying to install NVIDIA drivers, how do I log out of Xserver?
[06:35] <valcom> where i can download it ?
[06:35] <matju> just to know whether it really works or not
[06:35] <GoldKeeper> or just sudo
[06:35] <theqkash> ChaosFan: how to remount main partition?
[06:35] <GoldKeeper> not sudo su
[06:35] <Daverocks> fick: check the permissions of the file
[06:35] <Daverocks> mAIJK: init 3
[06:35] <yell8w>  hey guys where's the admin channel on here ? 
[06:35] <Bazzi> valcom: cdimage.ubuntu.com -> daily-live
[06:35] <ChaosFan> theqkash: your root-partition is readonly?
[06:35] <valcom> thanks :)
[06:35] <mAIJK> Daverocks, sudo init 3 ?
[06:35] <Bullines> Having a problem getting mySQL up and running.  Anybody have experience with this?
[06:35] <boink> !smbclient
[06:35] <ubotu> smbclient: a LanManager-like simple client for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 3269 kB, installed size 8508 kB
[06:35] <theqkash> ChaosFan: no, at start it's normal, but after some time...:/
[06:35] <Daverocks> mAIJK: ah. yeah. :D
[06:35] <boink> !samba
[06:35] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:35] <Daverocks> mAIJK: sorry, not thinking ubuntu :P
[06:36] <mAIJK> sudo init 3 doesnt work
[06:36] <fick> even worse , "modprobe ndiswrapper" = /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko no such file or directory
[06:36] <ChaosFan> theqkash: then it's something bigger... i personally can't afford to use that much time today, got an exam tomorrow and need to learn now, sorry
[06:36] <boink> can you mount a samba share made for windows with smbclient too?
[06:36] <baddhabit> Thank   you I'll try with that then
[06:36] <Daverocks> fick: have you installed ndiswrapper?
[06:36] <fick> yeah
[06:36] <fick> it works, its there
[06:37] <fick> but when i try and do modprobe ndiswrapper i now get the error above
[06:37] <Daverocks> fick: so you can install drivers with "ndiswrapper -i drivername", etc..
[06:37] <fick> yep, have done
[06:37] <segfault_> boink, man mount, yes u can use mount
[06:38] <fick> in fact, right now i have ubuntu running in a window in vmware, in rescue mode
[06:38] <valcom> Bazzi, where i can found information about the kernel in the daily-live iso ?
[06:38] <fick> the advantage being, it has access to the net
[06:38] <fick> through the vmware nat
[06:38] <Bazzi> what kind of information?
[06:38] <valcom> the version of the kernel, the patch'in, etc...
[06:39] <boink> ta segfault
[06:39] <swanfl> how do uninstall edgy without using the install disk?
[06:39] <afief> my sudo is telling me that the timestamp is set to tomorrow and won't run because of that, how can i fix that?
[06:39] <Bazzi> !info linux-image edgy
[06:39] <valcom> sorry for my english, i'm a french speaking user :)
[06:39] <ubotu> Package linux-image does not exist in edgy
[06:39] <theqkash> help me some1 plz:(
[06:39] <Bazzi> grrr
[06:39] <Bullines> Is there a reason why I receive this error with mySLQ:
[06:39] <Bazzi> !info linux-image-386 edgy
[06:39] <ubotu> linux-image-386: Linux kernel image on 386.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.10 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[06:39] <boink> valcom: il y a aussi #ubuntu-fr pour les francophones
[06:39] <Bazzi> I don't know where the patches etc are listed
[06:39] <Homer> 11 days till edgy?
[06:40] <boink> Homer: that's the plan
[06:40] <valcom> ok thank's Bazzi :)
[06:40] <kaiden> Anyone here had any experience with the latest release install cd on an ASUS p5b Deluxe motherboard?
[06:40] <Bullines> error: 'Access denied for user 'root@localhost' (Using Password: NO)'
[06:40] <yell8w>  is it reallly Homer ? 
[06:40] <fick> davrocks: so you see, before i did not have permission even under root to do any thing with ndiswrapper.ko, now it just dosent exist
[06:40] <valcom> boink, oui mais l j'ai vraiment besoin d'infos trs  jour pour du matos rcent, et on a pas pu m'aider sur la communaut francophone
[06:40] <kaiden> i'm unable to get past the Mounting Root Filesystem screen on the install cd and was kinda wondering if maybe it was because my hardwares too new
[06:40] <afief> my sudo is telling me that the timestamp is set to tomorrow and won't run because of that, how can i fix that?
[06:40] <yell8w>  i thought edgy doesn't comes out till nov 
[06:40] <Daverocks> fick: hang on a sec...
[06:40] <fdoving> yell8w: almost, 26th oct.
[06:41] <fick> oh by the way, sudo -s , ./ndiswrapper_setup has the same response ... permission denied
[06:41] <yell8w>  :) 
[06:42] <ryry0666> Is there anyone out there that could help me install Type1 fonts?  I have the FF Meta font package and would really like to use it on Ubuntu.
[06:42] <jamx> i've installed edgy, but i cannot see the new firefox theme as stated on the website. isnt it in the beta version yet ?
[06:42] <swanfl> is there an easy way to go back to dapper? Edgy is too buggy for me. It crashes my system alot
[06:43] <Daverocks> fick: check the permissions of ndiswrapper_setup
[06:43] <ryry0666> Jamx: As far as I know, there is a difference between the firefox on mozilla.org and the one released with debian, and presumably ubuntu.  that could be why the themes are different.
[06:44] <ryry0666> Also, there are packages for additional Firefox themes that match the Human theme better
[06:44] <echobinary> hello all :)
[06:44] <fick> daverocks: yeah i need to change the permission of the file via chmod . at the moment its -rw-rw-rw-
[06:44] <kowa> does anybody a alternative programm for delphi ???
[06:44] <ryry0666> if you search in synaptic for firefox i'm sure you'll be able to find it soon enough
[06:44] <kowa> know
[06:44] <jamx> ryry0666: i mean, on the ubuntu website it says there is a firefox theme in edgy that fits with ubuntu looks, but i dont see it installed
[06:44] <Daverocks> fick: chmod +x ndiswrapper_setup
[06:44] <pike__> swanfl: thats why i normally have 2 6-7 gig partitions for / one for use and one for testing new dist-upgrade. youll have to reinstall if you want dapper
[06:44] <baddhabit> Much better thanks for the answer
[06:45] <swanfl> thanks oike
[06:45] <swanfl> pike
[06:45] <ryry0666> jamx: i'll try to find you the package names so you can install them.
[06:45] <fick> ok i changed it
[06:45] <kowa> does anybody know an alternative programm fpr delphi running on ubuntu??
[06:45] <seamus_ie> hey does anyone kknow how to layout 4 pages on a sheet with page 1 in the top left corner with cups?
[06:45] <echobinary> anyone have any ideas on running a headless Ubuntu (dapper) box and VNC'ing in with a decent screen resolution? Booting remotely gives me 800x600 (or 640x480)
[06:46] <fick> now i have to reboot and prey that running the install script fixes whatever this ndiswrapper.ko problem is
[06:46] <jamx> kowa: with exactly the same programming language ?
[06:46] <Daverocks> fick: ok, good luck because i need to gio
[06:46] <Daverocks> *go
[06:46] <bhamgray> seamus_ie: Would laying it out in PDF not 'force' cups to print in in that layout?
[06:46] <ryry0666> jamx: you're going to want to run this as root, or with sudo "apt-get install firefox-themes ubuntu"
[06:46] <fick> due to the fact i am in a vmware window, ndiswrapper_setup cant detect my wireless card
[06:46] <fick> cheers
[06:46] <kowa> jamx: yes if its possible
[06:46] <fick> and thanks
[06:46] <Daverocks> fick: ah, alright... well, cya
[06:46] <jamx> ryry0666: thanks :)
[06:46] <ryry0666> no problem
[06:47] <seamus_ie> bhamgray: yea it probably would but do you know a scriptable way to convert a pdf into that sorta format?
[06:47] <jamx> kowa: dont think thats possible, but u might wanna check out mono (.net framework implementation for linux)
[06:47] <kowa> thx jamx
[06:48] <kowa> jamx whats about kylix
[06:48] <b03nto> kowa: u mean somehing like lazarus
[06:48] <echobinary> anyone have any ideas on running a headless Dapper box and VNC'ing in with a decent screen resolution? Booting remotely gives me 800x600 (or 640x480) - would like to get at least 1024x768 if not greater
[06:48] <bhamgray> seamus_ie: no, I don't, sorry
[06:49] <kowa> b03nto : i search an alternative programm for delphi which i can use on ubuntu
[06:50] <b03nto> kowa: is it something like this www.lazarus.freepascal.org/
[06:51] <bhamgray> After upgrading (with aptitude) from Dapper to Edgy on a testbox I don't get the new icons for Tomboy and other packages. Gnome looks largely the same. Is there a 'reconfigure' command that needs to be run?
[06:51] <matju> anyone has Logitech QuickCam 4000 working with Linux/PPC ?
[06:51] <matju> i mean Ubuntu/PPC
[06:51] <equinox0r> hi .. my network manager applet does not start .. it says, that needed lib dependencies are not available .. what do i have to install now?
[06:52] <b03nto> kowa: lazarus looks like delphi, but i dont think its in repo
[06:52] <kowa> b03nto .... thx ill see
[06:53] <jrib> b03nto: #ubuntu+1 for edgy, but make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed
[06:53] <jrib> bhamgray: #ubuntu+1 for edgy, but make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed
[06:53] <jrib> b03nto: ignore what I just said, sorry :)
[06:53] <b03nto> :)
[06:53] <bhamgray> jrib: Ah, sorry and thanks
[06:54] <b03nto> font in aterm is messy, is there anyway to fix it ?
[06:55] <Jaak_> anyone else have problems with macromedia studio 8 products and wine?
[06:56] <Jaak_> whole x crashes, especially when i start flash
[06:56] <_rodney> hmm theres a few things i cant seem to sort in ubunut/breezy... firefox is one... its because the package system is stuck with old packages and i cant find a way to upgrade to newer version... almost all the software is serverly out of date :(
[06:56] <Jaak_> sometimes it works great...
[06:56] <fick> well
[06:56] <fick> that failed to restore ndiswrapper.ko
[06:56] <fick> but the script worked
[06:56] <fick> joy
[06:56] <_rodney> clisp i could compile... firefox doesnt seem to be open src tho :(
[06:56] <fick> well, sorta worked
[06:56] <Pierre> !schedule > Pierre
[06:57] <_rodney> is there a quick fix for this type of thing anyone know ?
[06:57] <youser> hey is anyone around i know its thanksgiving
[06:58] <youser> i need help trying to get my fm radio tuner working
[06:58] <Bullines> I'm trying to get mySQL up and running as per http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_MYSQL_Database_Server
[06:58] <Bullines> Having trouble.
[06:58] <_rodney> http://rodney.hopto.org/search?title=Microsoft+to+rip+your+head+off   <<ubuntu web system :D ... anywayz anyone any ideas ?
[06:59] <pike__> _rodney: for firefox i normally just grab the binary off the firefox website and unpack it to a folder "firefox" in my home directory
[06:59] <Bullines> It's installed and running, but I get ACCESS DENIED errors all of the time.  Any suggestions?
[06:59] <THX-1138> youser - Hi. - Have you found a radio software package that you like?
[06:59] <_rodney> yeah thats what i did... but it wont run.. due to libs
[06:59] <fick> so, i was wondering, since it looks like ubuntu needs a reinstall..... eeeeeekkkkkk and my laptop cd drive is dead........and i have no usb key, is there a way to at least get ubuntu partially installed in vmware or some other vm to the point where i can reboot and have ubuntu scan for my hardware
[06:59] <Jaak_> i've installed a few packages and it works great
[06:59] <srikanthssn> Bullines try creating users in mysql
[06:59] <youser> yeah gnome radio
[07:00] <Bullines> srikanthssn: Hi! What is the command?
[07:00] <srikanthssn> Bullines, u enter mysql as root right?
[07:00] <youser> i installed and tried opening gnome radio an got this:
[07:00] <youser> Could not open device "/dev/radio0" !
[07:00] <youser> Check your Settings and make sure that no other
[07:00] <youser> program is using /dev/radio0.
[07:00] <youser> Make also sure that you have read-access to it.
[07:00] <Jaak_> Bellines, try installing phpadmin using package manager...
[07:00] <Bullines> srikanthssn: Yes.  I've sudo'd.
[07:00] <THX-1138> youser - Ok. lspci will give you information about your card. - do you have the information about the card?
[07:00] <youser> sory if that was too many  lines
[07:01] <srikanthssn> Bullines try mysql -u root -p
[07:01] <srikanthssn> not sudo
[07:01] <youser> yes i do
[07:01] <nash-20> hi
[07:01] <Bullines> srikanthssn: A ha!  That worked So never sudo?
[07:01] <ifrozen> hi all
[07:01] <gratuit> I have a bluetooth keyboard that I just bought, and I am having a problem getting grub to use it. I can control my bios setup with it, but grub will not respond to it. Anyone have any ideas on what the problem is and how I could get it to work?
[07:01] <nash-20> i installed ubuntu edgy and the splash dissappear
[07:01] <fick> or alternatively... how do i get a ndiswrapper.ko again, so modprobe ndiswrapper can work its magic
[07:02] <srikanthssn> Bulllines,nope.. u dont need to sudo..
[07:02] <nash-20> do you know how can i put it?
[07:02] <kaiden> Anyone here had any experience with the latest release install cd on an ASUS p5b Deluxe motherboard?
[07:02] <kaiden> i'm unable to get past the Mounting Root Filesystem screen on the install cd and was kinda wondering if maybe it was because my hardwares too new
[07:02] <srikanthssn> Bulllines, now "use mysql;"
[07:02] <THX-1138> youser - np. - a quick google with your card model and gnomeradio should turn up something. - I am not very experienced.
[07:02] <boink> how can I set the auto-focus on the gnome/Ubuntu desktop?
[07:03] <fick> btw, i do have ubuntu running right now in rescue mode in a vmware session
[07:03] <boink> I have to click on "on top" all the time, it's a little irritating
[07:03] <youser> you seriously think thatll work?
[07:03] <Bullines> srikanthssn: I got "Database changed".  That's a good thing?
[07:03] <THX-1138> boink - preferences .. windows
[07:03] <boink> ta
[07:03] <srikanthssn> Bulllines, Yup now " create user(user,password) values('username', Password('yourpassword'));
[07:03] <JFreakCapo> hi, i was installing a package with adept but the package hangs, then i cancell de installation
[07:04] <srikanthssn> Bulllines, btb where do u get access denied ??
[07:04] <JFreakCapo> but now, when re-open adept there is a error message, how cancell de instalation previus ?
[07:04] <edoardo> hi everyone!
[07:04] <JFreakCapo> please somebody helpme
[07:04] <srikanthssn> Bulllines, i had while connecting to my java apps..
[07:04] <edoardo> you guys, i downloaded ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso, awright?
[07:05] <edoardo> it printed it'd be 'bout seven hundred megs
[07:05] <Bullines> srikanthssn: I was getting access denied when trying to issue any MYSQL or MYSQLADMIN commands.
[07:05] <edoardo> but it's a gig and a half
[07:05] <JFreakCapo> please, how cancell a pending package instalation ?
[07:05] <edoardo> so i burned it into a dvd, correct?
[07:05] <edoardo> but it don't boot
[07:05] <edoardo> help?
[07:05] <boink> damm, I can't get the auto-focus
[07:05] <edoardo> thankyou! : )
[07:06] <boink> I mean ... what I want when a new window pops up is that it's automagically on top
[07:06] <boink> at least I got the roll up back :)
[07:06] <hawaisurf> hi! can I unpack .rar files on ubuntu with ark?
[07:07] <Bullines> srikanthssn: This gives me an incorrect syntax error:
[07:07] <Bullines> create user(user,password) values ('user_a',Password('test_pass'));
[07:08] <JFreakCapo> can sombebody help me?? how cancell the installation of a pending package?
[07:08] <boink> apt-get remove
[07:08] <srikanthssn> cant figure it out.. wat was the error? access denied
[07:08] <boink> if you dno't want it anymore
[07:08] <HHak> Hello guys!
[07:08] <edoardo> hello?? help!! why don't the ubuntu-desktop cd boot my system up?
[07:08] <boink> s/dno't/don't
[07:08] <bsnider> hawaisurf: you'll need unrar installed as well, because the rar format is restricted
[07:09] <edoardo> actually, dvd
[07:09] <kandala> Can anyone help me with setting character_set_* to utf8 character encoding during mysql server startup on ubuntu, mysql5.0.24?
[07:09] <Bullines> srikanthssn: Error 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax;
[07:09] <JFreakCapo> boink, thks
[07:10] <runa> hey :) "something" is writing an unwanted "search ..." line in my /etc/resolv.conf (created using resolvconf). Is this dhclient3? What can I do to avoid that?
[07:11] <HHak> Hello! A question about GAIM... Is there a way to disable this automatic spelling checking, or to install new language packages for it (Finnish)?
[07:11] <hawaisurf> bsnider: ok..unrar is another application or just another packet option in ark?
[07:11] <bsnider> hawaisurf: application
[07:11] <HHak> No idea?
[07:12] <HHak> I would love to know
[07:12] <srikanthssn> Bullines, sorry try this, "insert into user(user,password).... rest same thing
[07:12] <hawaisurf> bsnider: ok thank you
[07:13] <baggio> hi guys.. this is my first day with ubuntu...it seems great! im trying to connect it to wifi wpa. i know i need some program to do it, but i cant figure out how to install it..could someone please help? i tried the forums but its too complicated
[07:14] <Bullines> srikanthssn: That worked perfectlly.  I'm up and running :)  Thanks.
[07:14] <fdoving> baggio: check this out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[07:14] <Rookie_> !wifi
[07:14] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:14] <srikanthssn> Bullines, brb
[07:14] <Dr_willis> !network manager
[07:14] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[07:14] <Rookie_> i do
[07:15] <Dr_willis> heck - ive been upgrading to Gigabit networking in my house.
[07:15] <Dr_willis> using wireless is just too slow.
[07:15] <Dr_willis> :P
[07:15] <Dr_willis> and i get disconnected when the wife fires up the microwave oven
[07:15] <baggio> i have network manager, but all it shows is wep, not wpa
[07:15] <brrrt> hello all
[07:15] <Rookie_> some real work to get it secure too ...
[07:16] <freek> I have a question, if you guys could help me with it?
[07:16] <freek> or try & see if you can
[07:16] <brrrt> once i have installed a package, how can i force it to be kept, ignoring dependency problems?
[07:17] <baggio> i was hitting 3megabits with wireless g on windows
[07:17] <freek> I burnt the Ubuntu cd, had it installed, partitoned the drive using the option "Resize SCSI1" etc. and it gets to around 56% on installing software and the screen goes black
[07:17] <brrrt> i do not want apt-get dist-upgrade to remove the package
[07:17] <freek> someone told me to check md5sum to see if it is burned properly
[07:17] <freek> any suggestions?
[07:17] <valcom> The daily-live verson of ubuntu use the last kernel ?
[07:18] <srikanthssn> Bullines, http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/adding-users.html
[07:19] <jrib> ubotu: tell freek about iso
[07:20] <HHak> hmm
[07:20] <Bullines> srikanthssn: Excellent.  Thx again :)
[07:21] <chico_> Whenever I click "SYSTEM - QUIT"
[07:21] <chico_> i keep getting the Gnome Desktop Manager
[07:22] <chico_> how do i totally log off, I always see the Desktop Manager window
[07:22] <fick> well, since i cant get any help
[07:22] <fick> i am going to try sucidally upgrading to edgy well running in vmware.... i have no other choice
[07:22] <pike__> chico_: you can sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:23] <fick> its the only chance i have of getting ubuntu to do anything with my wireless
[07:23] <pike__> chico_: then start or restart
[07:23] <fick> since bloody ndiswrapper.ko does not exist
[07:23] <boink> or you need another wireless card
[07:23] <Dr_willis> vmware and wireless.. Hmm
[07:23] <boink> with a chip supported by linux
[07:23] <boink> ndiswrapper can be painful
[07:23] <sredojevics> hi, what are my choices if I need to connect to Internet using rp-pppoe tools (pppoe-start, pppoe-stop etc). Can Network Manager handle pppoe?
[07:23] <fick> yeah just a bit
[07:23] <Dr_willis> i find wireless painfull.
[07:24] <Dr_willis> but it does work on my laptop now with dapper.. that amazed me
[07:24] <sredojevics> is rp-pppoe default on edgy eft
[07:24] <boink> you got the right chip
[07:24] <boink> most people with wireless problems here are using the wrong chips
[07:24] <nuked_omen> amzing the number of xgl/compiz videos on google
[07:24] <Dr_willis> boink,  :)  'its all in the chips'
[07:24] <nuked_omen> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2043292208121750866&q=ubuntu
[07:24] <fick> wait a minute, is there a way to read a .iso image as if it was a cd drive
[07:24] <Dr_willis> nuked_omen,  more useless eye candy. :P
[07:25] <fick> within ubuntu of course
[07:25] <edoardo> hello?? help!! why don't the ubuntu-desktop dvd boot my system up?
[07:25] <Dr_willis> fick,  you can mount an iso of course.
[07:25] <Dr_willis> fick,  thats trivial
[07:25] <Dr_willis> !iso
[07:25] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[07:25] <fick> in other words, deamon tools for ubuntu
[07:25] <nuked_omen> Dr_willis, some people would switch OSes because of that eyecandy
[07:25] <fick> sweet
[07:25] <Dr_willis> fick,  the feature has been in linux WAY WAY befor deamon tools even existed
[07:25] <fick> no i wont have to risk running the upgrade in vmware
[07:25] <howieson26> !de
[07:25] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:25] <Dr_willis> nuked_omen,  but is that a good thing? :)
[07:26] <fick> now i wont have have to risk running the upgrade in vwware that is
[07:26] <freek> well I had to format, can I check the .iso from the cd I burnt it on
[07:26] <freek> or do I have to download another version to md5sum it?
[07:26] <Dr_willis> freek,  you can md5sum the cd you burnt - is the proper way.
[07:26] <nuked_omen> Dr_willis, depends, i know a friend of mine who never used but wanted to use OSX just for the looks of it
[07:26] <freek> just cmd
[07:26] <freek> then
[07:26] <freek> cd E:\
[07:26] <freek> ?
[07:27] <nuked_omen> call it a show off
[07:27] <Dr_willis> 'friends dont let friends use OSX'
[07:27] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:27] <Dr_willis> freek,  what does E: have to do with md5sum?
[07:27] <freek> my cd drive?
[07:27] <boink> does anyone know how I can set the "on-top" option as a default?
[07:27] <Dr_willis> freek,  and what os are you running? youve managed tototally lose me...
[07:27] <freek> windows XP
[07:28] <jrib> ubotu: tell boink about devilspie
[07:28] <Dr_willis> freek,  then go get a md5sum program for windowsxp
[07:28] <freek> i did
[07:28] <freek> md5summr
[07:28] <Dr_willis> and check the md5sum of the burnt cd
[07:28] <freek> extracted to system32
[07:28] <boink> ta jrib
[07:28] <freek> it says I have to switch dir's and all of that
[07:28] <Dr_willis> I found one that puts a menu on the right click entry that does md5sums.. ricght click on the cd.. md5sum.
[07:28] <freek> or are there others that I dont have to use in cmd prompt?
[07:28] <sredojevics> Hi, what are my choices if I need to connect to Internet using rp-pppoe tools (pppoe-start, pppoe-stop etc). Can Network Manager handle pppoe? Is rp-pppoe included on edgy eft?
[07:29] <Dr_willis> freek,  i iamgine thers several dozen of them.
[07:29] <fayez> ls
[07:29] <johnny06> Randall are youaround
[07:30] <Dr_willis> ls - command not found.
[07:30] <BockBilbo> any of you have manage to install ubuntu server 6.06 on vmware?
[07:30] <graveson> is there a RSS tool for ubuntu something that is browser integrated
[07:31] <Dr_willis> theres several rss extensions for firefox. Check the firefox extension site.
[07:31] <Dr_willis> BockBilbo,  i was thinking i saw a Premade vmware image for Ubuntu Server on some site. Proberly the Vmware "appliances" site
[07:31] <fick> btw, your mount did not work
[07:32] <indigoblu> Dr_willis, hows about the good ole' Xen :-)
[07:32] <Dr_willis> btw - i imagine ya did somthing wrong. :P
[07:32] <BockBilbo> Dr_willis, you sure?..... i installed it on vmware using qemu and then reformating the image to open it with the vmwareplayer
[07:32] <fick> cant find in etc/fstab or mtab
[07:32] <Dr_willis> indigoblu,  never mseede with xen.
[07:32] <Dr_willis> BockBilbo,  i use the vmware server
[07:32] <johnny06> you know what Randall is not happy cause you banned him
[07:32] <BockBilbo> and after installing it ok in vmware-player... grub loads but the boot process doesnt start
[07:32] <fick> so much for painless .iso mounts
[07:33] <indigoblu> Dr_willis, as far as virtualization tech goes, it blows VMware out of the water in terms of performance
[07:33] <baggio> hi again guys. im trying to get WPA working. i have network manager, but i only see option to select wep. my connection is wpa. any help would be great. this is my first time today using ubuntu
[07:33] <freek> k, re-downloading the install iso
[07:33] <Dr_willis> fick,  put forth some effort man.. I am guessing you did some trivial thing wrong
[07:33] <freek> gonna md5 before I burn
[07:33] <freek> burn it in nero
[07:33] <freek> try to install again
[07:33] <howieson26> !de
[07:33] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:33] <fick> hmmmmmm
[07:33] <fick> editing mtab or fstab is never trivial
[07:33] <Dr_willis> this command --> sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint        looks right to me  and does NOT invilve editing fstab
[07:34] <Dr_willis> and editing fstab is rather trivial.
[07:34] <Dr_willis> you never edit the mtab
[07:34] <rsl> Is anyone getting X errors with flash on Edgy? I'm running compiz, if that matters.
[07:34] <jrib> rsl: #ubuntu+1 for edgy please
[07:34] <howieson26> !de
[07:34] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:34] <rsl> jrib: thanks!
[07:34] <howieson26> warum komme ich nichtmehr auf den deutschen server von ubuntu-de
[07:34] <howieson26> werde immer gebannt
[07:35] <Dr_willis> sudo mount -o loop  puppy-2.10-seamonkey.iso testdir
[07:35] <Dr_willis> works for me.
[07:35] <howieson26> #ubuntu-de
[07:35] <baggio> Could someone please PM me if they can help me get WPA wireless to work ?
[07:35] <howieson26> j #ubuntu-de
[07:35] <jrib> ubotu: tell baggio about wpa
[07:36] <THX-1138> !de
[07:36] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:37] <edoardo> ls
[07:37] <edoardo> : D
[07:37] <edoardo> you guys
[07:37] <MammalFish> Hello.
[07:37] <edoardo> you guys
[07:37] <MammalFish> I was wondering if anyone would be willing to help with someone.
[07:37] <MammalFish> *something
[07:38] <ryan_> anyone know a good ftp client with a gui
[07:38] <MammalFish> I tried installing Ubuntu to a USB drive, and at 15%, it said it couldn't create a filesystem.
[07:38] <THX-1138> !ask > MammalFish
[07:38] <ericz> ryan_, gftp-gtk
[07:38] <edoardo> you guys
[07:38] <MammalFish> Thus it literally takes forever to find the filesystem.
[07:38] <fick> mount: can't find /media/cd in /etc/fstab or etc/mtab
[07:38] <fick> thank you very much
[07:38] <MammalFish> If it helps, it is a 2GB Sandisk Cruzer Micro.
[07:38] <edoardo> ryan_ gftp
[07:38] <fick> stick that somewhere trivial
[07:39] <baggio> 950 people in this room and no one can help? wow
[07:39] <ryan_> thanks edoardo
[07:39] <Dr_willis> fick,  the directory 'cd' does allready exist?
[07:39] <pike__> baggio: if you read the link and then have a specific question about the steps someone can help
[07:39] <edoardo> i've downloaded ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso... on my hd it's a 1.4g file, i burned it to a dvd... but the dvd won't boot! so i've loop mounted the iso... and it's seven hundred megs! how come? help!
[07:40] <baggio> the link says it cant be done
[07:40] <Dr_willis> fisk -> sudo mkdir /media/cd
[07:40] <fick> no, it did not, but i created it as a experiment and got the same error message
[07:40] <Dr_willis> fick -> sudo mkdir /media/cd
[07:40] <ryan_> anyone know a dvd/cd burning program with a gui
[07:41] <ColonelPanic001> anyone have any idea why my usb card reader might seemingly without reason stop working? It's as though it's not plugged in, but it is.
[07:41] <forngren> Does a Logitech QuickCam communicate STX work in ubuntu?
[07:41] <brotherJohn1234> ryan_, tried k3b ?
[07:41] <ColonelPanic001> ryan_: K3b?
[07:41] <Dr_willis> fick,  and whats the exact mount command you are using?
[07:41] <pike__> baggio: ive never used wpa but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo seems possible
[07:41] <THX-1138> edoardo - gnomebaker - or with a large d/l of kde desktop files k3b
[07:41] <ryan_> thanks
[07:41] <baggio> let me check it out. thanks pike
[07:41] <brrrt> what do  i need to make my joypad work in dapper ??
[07:41] <fick> it does now
[07:42] <fick> and i cant remember the command to erase the directory
[07:42] <THX-1138> brrrt - peek at xbindkeys
[07:42] <brrrt> oh
[07:42] <brrrt> thx
[07:42] <fick> ok, got it rmdir
[07:42] <THX-1138> brrrt: you can do it geeky to xev and xmodmap.
[07:42] <fick> same as in windoze
[07:42] <mAIJK> Should I use nvidia-glx-legacy or nvidia-glx to my GeForce 7600GT for gaming or should I use the driver from NVIDIAs Homepage????
[07:42] <ColonelPanic001> I'm not really new to linux, just never played with USB or whatnot before, don't even know if there's a deamon for it or whatnot
[07:42] <fick> now of course, i got the same error i got before
[07:42] <Terminus> mAIJK: nvidia-glx
[07:43] <mAIJK> Terminus, is that one as good as Nvidia.coms detonator?
[07:43] <fick> and i will continue to , becuase there are no mount entires in fstab or mtab
[07:43] <OSV> What is the most convinient editor of php files in Linux?
[07:43] <brrrt> THX-1138: sounds nice :)
[07:43] <ColonelPanic001> OSV: vim/gvim, nano, Kate
[07:43] <Terminus> mAIJK: yep. and too make things simple, always grab packages from the repos first before installing from other sources. makes cleanup easy.
[07:43] <OSV> is there Project tree there?
[07:43] <fick> dr_willis : i did create the directroy and got the same result
[07:43] <THX-1138> brrrt - it uses all types of arcania type xev in a terminal.
[07:43] <Terminus> mAIJK: if you really are forced to install from another source, use checkinstall.
[07:44] <pike__> ColonelPanic001: open a terminal and type 'mount' and hit enter if its not mounted this is what i normally do 1. ls -t /dev | head  youll get something like sda1 or sdb1 then sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/whateverdirectoryyouwant
[07:44] <brotherJohn1234> OSV, i use Eclipse for my small php-programms.
[07:44] <Dr_willis> fick,  im thinking you are doing somthing fundamentally/logicially wrong.   its  i just mounted an .iso witht he following 2 commands.
[07:44] <XiXaQ> How do I upgrade from Dapper to Edgy?
[07:44] <Dr_willis> sudo mkdir CDGOESHERE
[07:44] <edoardo> THX-1138 thankyou dude!
[07:44] <Dr_willis> sudo mount -o loop  puppy-2.10-seamonkey.iso CDGOESHERE
[07:44] <THX-1138> ;)
[07:44] <OSV> Eclipse - where can I find it?
[07:45] <edoardo> THX-1138 thankyou dude! : )
[07:45] <Dr_willis> Note that i made that dir in the same dir as the .iso exists
[07:45] <edoardo> byebye everyone! : )
[07:45] <ColonelPanic001> pike_: thanks, but nothing came up
[07:45] <edoardo> to convert any audio file, use audio-convert! it kicks ass!!
[07:45] <ColonelPanic001> it normally does auto-mount as sda1
[07:45] <THX-1138> edoardo - cdr-tools or cdrecord for bash scriptng ok?
[07:45] <baggio> i downloaded and installed network manager, but i cant find it anywhere. how can i see it?
[07:45] <TheGateKeeper> OSV: universe repo
[07:45] <Terminus> XiXaQ: change all instances of dapper to edgy in /etc/apt/sources.list and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. check the docs for edgy though, they might have special instructions. this is just the short version. don't blame me if it borks your install. =)
[07:45] <ColonelPanic001> but, if this helps at all, there's a "power" light on the reader which normally is always on, it's off now
[07:45] <ColonelPanic001> it's like it's dead. heh
[07:46] <edoardo> THX-1138 awright!
[07:46] <XiXaQ> Terminus, I'll do it in a virtual machine first and see how that works. Thanks.
[07:46] <pike__> ColonelPanic001: well if lsusb doesnt show it connected thats the problem i dont know why it would do that offhand
[07:46] <nukeTWA> Hello
[07:47] <Terminus> XiXaQ: good luck. :)
[07:47] <ColonelPanic001> running lsusb now. So far it's just sitting there
[07:47] <XiXaQ> Terminus, thanks  :)
[07:47] <Terminus> XiXaQ: i did the same thing for upgrading from breezy to dapper. worked flawlessly here. =)
[07:47] <ColonelPanic001> I had this before, ended up just rebooting, but that just doesn't seem like it ought to be needed.
[07:47] <fick> can't find /cdgoeshere in /etc/fstab or mtab
[07:47] <edoardo> byebye everyone! : )
[07:47] <freek> Linux is the hardest os to install, I swearl
[07:47] <freek> swear*
[07:48] <ColonelPanic001> freek: matter of opinion.
[07:48] <fick> eeek
[07:48] <freek> i've never had this problem on windows
[07:48] <ColonelPanic001> I find many linux distros easier than windows
[07:48] <Dr_willis> fick,  my fstab dosent have those entrys.. the fstab should not be getting checked at all.
[07:48] <brrrt> THX-1138: with xev nothing happens when i do something on the joypad
[07:48] <ColonelPanic001> it's just different
[07:48] <Terminus> freek: as ColonelPanic001 said. i think linux is just as difficult as installing windows, if not easier.
[07:48] <Dr_willis> fick,  im betting you are doing somthing  wrong and when you realize it.. you will go " *doh*
[07:48] <ColonelPanic001> It's differnet, and that sometimes can throw users off, understandably
[07:48] <fick> somehow, the "loop" in the command line got ingnored the first time
[07:49] <Dr_willis> fick,  Huh....
[07:49] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:49] <twitch> how do i creat an identity?
[07:49] <ColonelPanic001> is there some kind of USB service I might try restarting or something?
[07:49] <THX-1138> brrrt: adventure awaits! - use gcon~f-editor   /apps/metacity
[07:49] <nukeTWA> I need some help with installation...I need to create a new partition to install dapper drake.  I freed up some space, and I clicked new.  I don't understand the menu that pops up.  I need to have one partition that is at least 256 MB and the other partition that will be 10 GB.
[07:49] <fick> so, i am just hoping that install edgy solves my broadcom bcm4318 issues... since my ndiswrapper.ko went missing
[07:49] <MammalFish> Has anyone here installed to a USB Flash Drive?
[07:49] <Terminus> ColonelPanic001: usb reader? tried removing it and reconnected it?
[07:49] <THX-1138> brrt - you will see commands can be assigned to keys
[07:49] <ColonelPanic001> Terminus: yeah. Unplugged and plugged back in. No change
[07:49] <Terminus> ColonelPanic001: dmesg should show you stuff once you reconnect it.
[07:49] <ColonelPanic001> I'll try
[07:49] <Dr_willis> MammalFish,  its not a trivial task. That UBUNTU HACKS book has an chapter on it.
[07:49] <ColonelPanic001> MammalFish: I'm not that much a masochist ;)
[07:50] <Dr_willis> Work time for me.. vacationis over... :(
[07:50] <brrrt> THX-1138: but i have no gnome running at all, how can this help with the joypad?
[07:50] <fick> becuase my xp install is acting a little wierd and i dont really want to use xp anymore.....it comes with a certain need for paranoia that i really cant handle anymore
[07:50] <TheGateKeeper> fick: I doubt moving to edgy will solve your problems
[07:50] <THX-1138> brrt - no X? - okay.  xmodmap
[07:51] <nukeTWA> the partition that will have linux....is that supposed to be a primary partition or extended?
[07:51] <brrrt> jes i have x but no WM
[07:51] <fick> the gatekeeper:according to what i have heard the 2.6.17 kernel has support for bcm4318 chipsets
[07:51] <Terminus> nukeTWA: the boot partition needs to be primary i think. anything else can be in extended.
[07:51] <brrrt> i just want to run ppracer on top of X
[07:51] <shuan> hello
[07:51] <nukeTWA> what about swap partition?
[07:52] <nukeTWA> can that be extended?
[07:52] <TheGateKeeper> nukeTWA: I use primary for my setup
[07:52] <Terminus> nukeTWA: anyway, if you've got spare primaries, just stuff it there. don't forget to leave one spare for extended though.
[07:52] <Terminus> nukeTWA: yep. it can be in extended.
[07:52] <nukeTWA> ok thank you
[07:52] <Terminus> nukeTWA: what i do is i just use 3 primaries and then stuff everything else in extended.
[07:52] <shuan> can anyone help me, i have been having trouble with ubuntu recognizing my memory stick on my phone whilst connected via usb
[07:52] <THX-1138> brrt - xbindkeys is more than a little easier. - a quick google with your pad name and xbindkeys or xmodmap will turn up the answer
[07:52] <Terminus> nukeTWA: but that's the paranoid partitioner in me. =D
[07:53] <brrrt> THX-1138: k. thx alot!
[07:53] <MammalFish> Well, when I tried installing Ubuntu to my USB Drive, it said that it couldn't create the filesystem.
[07:53] <Xx|Twitch|xX> I just deleted a group in gaim, and it turns out taht deletes contacts too, is there anyway to reverse this and get my contacts back?
[07:53] <TheGateKeeper> fick: in that case I would make sure that is the case then try compiling your own kernel
[07:53] <MammalFish> That resulted in it to not be able to find it.
[07:53] <graft> anyone running firefox 1.5.0.7?
[07:53] <Ronz> "API mismatch! the nvidia kernel module has the version 1.0-8762 but this x module has vresion 1.0-8774" how do i upgrade the nvidia kernel module?
[07:53] <fick> terminus: i only do my paritioning with partitionmagic in windoze, previous experience indicates any other partition manager may screw your partitions up
[07:53] <TheGateKeeper> graft: yep
[07:54] <graft> TheGateKeeper: do you have weird problems with flash? i.e., nothing at all will work and you get some weird 'swfdec known bug' error?
[07:54] <Terminus> fick: i'd give you a link to partitioning docs if i had any. all partitioning works the same. you just have to understand how it works.
[07:54] <admin0> hi guys .. strange issue.. I cannot install any themes ..Themes>> install theme >> then selecect the theme file  ( sleekdragon.tar.gz), , it says file format error
[07:54] <fick> terminus: i do understand how it works
[07:54] <admin0> its inside my /home/usrname/.themes/dirname/theme
[07:54] <TheGateKeeper> graft: nope give me a url
[07:54] <shuan> mammal: was you talking to me about the usb?
[07:54] <graft> TheGateKeeper: um, e.g., homestarrunner.comm
[07:54] <MammalFish> Yes.
[07:54] <MammalFish> I was.
[07:55] <pike__> admin0: you can just unpack the theme to the theme directory probably
[07:55] <fick> termnnus: however, many partitioning programs do not understand how xp's ntfs partitions work
[07:55] <fick> including qtparted btw
[07:55] <admin0> pike_, i did that .. but it does not show up
[07:55] <Terminus> fick: really? i thought a partitioning program shouldn't ever touch FS stuff. =|
[07:55] <shuan> mammalfish: i meant i want to get files from my phone memory not install ubuntu to the usb drive
[07:55] <admin0>  /join #perl
[07:56] <freek> lol TheGateKeeper
[07:56] <Terminus> fick: heck, i did partitioning with a hex editor once and it worked just fine.
[07:56] <freek> that used to be my ollllldddd
[07:56] <freek> nick
[07:56] <THX-1138> admin0 - yes, same trouble here irritating isn't it. - there is an answer. after opening themes from the menu selector. open the file browser nautilus and CTRL+H to unhide os files drop your them in  .themes. use the menu to select it.
[07:56] <Ronz> "API mismatch! the nvidia kernel module has the version 1.0-8762 but this x module has vresion 1.0-8774" how do i upgrade the nvidia kernel module?
[07:56] <THX-1138> !themes
[07:56] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[07:56] <fick> terminus: well, i tell you what, go ahead and do something with qtparted to a xp ntfs parition and if you are lucky it will still be intact when its done
[07:56] <railz> hello, i did an install for a friend, and I noticed he's missing the 'disks' program for manually mounting drives
[07:56] <railz> what program provides that?
[07:56] <ifrozen> bye
[07:56] <Terminus> fick: no thanks. i don't want to fix something that's not broken. =D
[07:56] <ColonelPanic001> hell with it, I'll try rebooting
[07:57] <fick> terminus: so you dont want to break something that you will have to fix
[07:57] <TheGateKeeper> graft: nope works just fine
[07:57] <unimatrix9> hi there
[07:57] <Terminus> fick: i've had no reason before to use anything other than good old fdisk anyway. =)
[07:57] <unimatrix9> how do i turn off the gnome update reminder?
[07:58] <brotherJohn1234> unimatrix9, update ;)
[07:58] <GoldKeeper> you cant the gnome updatemanager turns you off
[07:58] <GoldKeeper> :)
[07:58] <unimatrix9> dont need an update
[07:58] <fick> terminus: ah, fdisk is great providing you dont want to resize/move partitions, so you can install linux
[07:58] <railz> join #ubuntu+1
[07:58] <unimatrix9> hmm, is this still the userfriendly ubuntu comunnity?
[07:58] <shuan> anyone using lts 6.06.1
[07:59] <admin0> this is unimatrix9
[07:59] <unimatrix9> yes i am shuan
[07:59] <brotherJohn1234> the userfriendly ubuntu comunnity recommends updates ;)
[07:59] <THX-1138> unimatrix9: System >> preferences .. sessions .. startup tab
[07:59] <Terminus> fick: aha! so that means you have problems resizing, not partitioning. never had a reason to resize partitions either. i avoid them since they're so iffy. =|
[07:59] <shuan> whats the difference
[07:59] <fick> anywayz, thegatekeeper: hopefully having that 2.6.17 kernel will kill my bcm4318 problems forever
[07:59] <TheGateKeeper> graft: damn no I get the crap yahoo ad when I log into email lol
[07:59] <shuan> unimatrix: whats new?
[07:59] <Terminus> shuan: i'm using it.
[07:59] <THX-1138> unimatrix9: ya know it isn't really a good idea right?
[07:59] <Terminus> shuan: it's a point release. that's it.
[08:00] <fick> terminus: well, as you said, iffy.....parition magic 8 is not iffy....
[08:00] <fick> its the only bloody partition mananger i will use on any partition, if there was a linux version i would be in heaven
[08:01] <unimatrix9> shuan, i guess the difference is all new packages
[08:01] <THX-1138> Does anyone have the irssi command to ignore bot enter and quit messages?
[08:01] <chico_> I can not log off, i keep getting the GNOME Desktop Manager after clicking the QUIT
[08:01] <brotherJohn1234> fick, try the gparted-livecd ..
[08:01] <Terminus> fick: well, good if it works for you. =)
[08:01] <mAIJK> Hey, how do I test if I got good nvidia drivers on my ubuntu ?
[08:01] <Tonren> Can anyone help me get Flash working with Opera?
[08:01] <omi> hello, has anyone been able to compile agpgart-2.0 for intel 965 integrated graphics? http://intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html. agpgart-2.0 just has source code but no instructions whatsoever.
[08:01] <Terminus> mAIJK: run glxgears
[08:01] <chico_> How do i set my site to the state like that yesterday, does linux have System Restore feature like that in WINDOWS?
[08:01] <BockBilbo> what's a LAMp server?
[08:01] <admin0> Tonren: I used easyununtu to setup flash, and then installed opera
[08:01] <admin0> it worked fine
[08:01] <fick> brotherjohn: gparted is qtparted if i remember correctly, i think the difference is the UI (gnome vs kde or some shite like that
[08:02] <THX-1138> !gcc
[08:02] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:02] <admin0> BockBilbo: Linux Apache Mysql PHp
[08:02] <Terminus> BockBilbo: linux, apache, mysql, php server.
[08:02] <BockBilbo> lol
[08:02] <unimatrix9> lamp = linux apache php and mysql
[08:02] <Tonren> admin0: gah... I've followed six different tutorials and hints from at least a dozen forum posts, but it STILL won' twork
[08:02] <mAIJK> Terminus, Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:02] <ryan_> i uninstalled and reinstalled firefox and now my add/remove program tab is gone from my applications menu any ideas on how to get it back i know i can just use the synaptic package maniger but the otherway is more user friendly when you dont know the name of the program
[08:02] <BockBilbo> thanks
[08:02] <Terminus> mAIJK: doesn't sound like it's working right then.
[08:02] <unimatrix9> got to log out and in, have to go bye and thanx for the help
[08:02] <unimatrix9> :)
[08:03] <Terminus> mAIJK: you did reboot after installing the kernel driver and X driver right?
[08:03] <chico_> How can i disable the GNOME DESKTOP MANAGER menu. It keeps on popping out when i click the SYSTEM - QUIT
[08:03] <mAIJK> I installed nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-dev and then run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable and restarted Xserver...
[08:04] <mAIJK> And yes, I have rebooted
[08:04] <admin0> is anyone going to try to upgrade to the latest gnome ;)
[08:04] <admin0> 2.16
[08:04] <mAIJK> Terminus, nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-dev is the one I need, not more then that???
[08:04] <Terminus> mAIJK: it should be. and nvidia-glx-dev isn't even needed. something else must be wrong.
[08:05] <Terminus> mAIJK: but you still have X running? check your xorg.conf and see if it's using nvidia and not nv. that might be the problem.
[08:05] <ryan_> i uninstalled and reinstalled firefox and now my add/remove program tab is gone from my applications menu any ideas on how to get it back
[08:05] <chico_> Hello
[08:05] <chico_> help pls
[08:05] <MammalFish> Ask away.
[08:06] <moataz> someone knows how to mount sata drives, I call the primary partition on the IDE primary master channed by /dev/hda1, right>? how to recall sata?
[08:06] <chico_> I can not log off. Everytime i click the QUIT i keep getting the GNOME DESKTOP MANAGER
[08:06] <chico_> who knows the solution
[08:07] <railz> does anyone here have the program called 'disks' in their system>admin menu?
[08:07] <railz> if so can you please tell me the name of the program
[08:07] <Terminus> moataz: sata is seen by linux as scsi so you need /dev/sda1 instead.
[08:07] <moataz> thanks
[08:08] <THX-1138> sudo railz - it's sneaky but try this. ps -e  (list processes) while you have thapp open
[08:09] <railz> THX-1138: do you have the program I mention? I have it at more but I did a fresh install for a friend and it's not there
[08:09] <chico_> Anyone?
[08:09] <railz> I wanted to know the name of the program
[08:09] <Tonren> Hey guys, does the flash navigation on the top of this page work for anyone? http://www.v3ga.net/processing/BlobDetection/
[08:09] <railz> er i have it at home
[08:09] <THX-1138> railz - possibly in /usr/bin/gnome-file that does something
[08:09] <pike__> chico_: are you wanting to reboot? or just drop to a command line?
[08:10] <chico_> I want to log off
[08:10] <Terminus> Tonren: doesn't work for me here.
[08:10] <chico_> and not to see that menu everytime i am trying to log off
[08:10] <Tonren> Terminus: It works in Windows and Mac.  :\
[08:10] <brenlae> hello, i was wondering, can i get 3D working with my intel i910 GL (integrated)
[08:10] <Terminus> Tonren: i'm using opera 9 and flash 7 on dapper.
[08:10] <pike__> chico_: gdm will run until you kill it youre at the gdm login screen?
[08:10] <brenlae> you see, my 6600GT just stopped working today (fan broke) :(
[08:10] <Tonren> Terminus: Me too.
[08:10] <Tonren> Terminus: It doesn't work in Firefox either.
[08:11] <chico_> I try to log off by clicking SYSTEM - QUIT
[08:11] <pike__> chico_: for instance alt-ctrl-backspace will restart X and log you off quickly
[08:11] <THX-1138> Terminus Flash Player version 9
[08:11] <THX-1138> As some sites require you to have flash player 9 installed and it doesn't exist yet under Linux, I came across the following forum entry. It's a cheap trick to make the site think you are using flash player 9. It might not work for all sites.
[08:12] <THX-1138> Open the file ~/.mozilla/firefox/pluginreg.dat
[08:12] <chico_> then the GDM will appear asking me for username and password again
[08:12] <THX-1138> change
[08:12] <THX-1138> Shockwave Flash 7.0 r63:$
[08:12] <THX-1138> Shockwave Flash 9.0 r63:$ EEk! - sorry
[08:12] <Terminus> Tonren: maybe it's the JS script you're using there.
[08:12] <THX-1138> to
[08:12] <Tonren> Terminus: Wha - huh?  I'm not using any JavaScript.  Oh!  Oh.  This isn't my site.
[08:12] <chico_> Is it safe to log off using ALT CTRL BACKSPACE?
[08:12] <Tonren> Terminus: I would never commit the cardinal sin of having NO SUPPORT for non-Flash player browsers.
[08:13] <deltab> chico_: depends what you mean by 'safe'
[08:13] <Terminus> Tonren: oh... hehehe. i did a quick scan of the code and they're using JS to stick SWF on it.
[08:13] <pike__> chico_: gdm will respawn until its stopped like sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop but then you have to sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart to start it.  yes but it might not retain all changes youve made if you alt-crtl-backspace
[08:13] <Terminus> THX-1138: thanks for the tip. =)
[08:13] <Tonren> Terminus: What a horrible website
[08:13] <Tonren> THX-1138: Any way to do that with Opera?
[08:13] <chico_> ok ty
[08:14] <chico_> will try it now
[08:14] <bsnider> how can i edit file types in gnome?
[08:14] <therp> hey folks. how is edgy doing? is it safe (by an 80% chance) to recommend my girlfriend (about 3000km away) to do a dist-upgrade?
[08:14] <Tonren> therp: Ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:14] <wildchild> does apt have package for nvida drivers?
[08:14] <THX-1138> Tonren - one flash install all browsers.
[08:14] <Tonren> THX-1138: ... huh?
[08:14] <therp> tonren: ah ic, the answer is in the topic of #ubuntu+1
[08:15] <bsnider> therp: everybody seems to be having 3d problems
[08:15] <Terminus> Tonren: scifi.com/battlestar/ is the latest site that's been bugging me. =|
[08:15] <Tonren> Terminus: The sad thing is, last week, I got really frustrated with Linux.  I said, "I've had enough!  I've had enough of compatibility errors and all of this nonsense.  I'M GOING BACK TO WINDOWS."
[08:15] <THX-1138> Tonren - opera and firefox use the same flash install
[08:16] <iafic> hi
[08:16] <Tonren> Terminus: I booted into Windows and started going about my business.  Within 10 minutes, the Windows updater wanted to reset, programs were crashing, I was getting spyware and I missed the command line.
[08:16] <therp> bsnider: that's not necessary. it just needs to start X (with nvidia restricted) and hook her up to her WEP access point. the rest I can fix remotely, but those things are crucial
[08:16] <MammalFish> There, I made a topic on UbuntuForums for my problem, since it's kind of difficult to explain here.  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1597308#post1597308
[08:16] <Tonren> Terminus: I went right back to Linux.
[08:16] <iafic> who is there
[08:16] <iafic> ????
[08:16] <Tonren> THX-1138: But will editing' Firefox's configuration file affect Opera?
[08:16] <davin> how can I check my local IP? (not 127.x)
[08:16] <therp> davin: ifconfig
[08:17] <bsnider> therp: i'm not having any problems like that at this point
[08:17] <therp> davin: or whatismyip.com
[08:17] <Terminus> Tonren: lol. once you get used to linux, it isn't really that difficult anyway. and using the command line really gives you a lot of power. i just miss the multimedia apps on windows though. =|
[08:17] <davin> therp: cheers found it
[08:17] <davin> therp: nah thats my external, I meant the internal like 192.168  got it though, thanks!
[08:17] <Tonren> Terminus: I just miss things WORKING.  I miss Flash working without bugs, I miss my 5-in-1 card reader, I miss connecting to an external monitor without having to restart.
[08:17] <Tonren> Terminus: I miss Photoshop the most.  I hate running it through Crossover Office.
[08:18] <Tonren> Terminus: I'm of the opinion that Linux will stay crippled forever without third party support.
[08:18] <davin> Tonren: GIMP?
[08:18] <echobinary> anyone have any ideas on running a headless Dapper box and VNC'ing in with a decent screen resolution? Booting remotely gives me 800x600 (or 640x480) - would like to get at least 1024x768 if not greater
[08:18] <zambba> How can I get Flash working with Opera 9 in Dapper? Does anyone know any tutorial? I've installed flashplugin-nonfree.
[08:18] <chico_> unsuccessful
[08:18] <Tonren> davin: Please... don't.  I've worked with Photoshop for eight years.  It's second nature to me.  GIMP has less than a quarter of Photoshop's functionality.  It's a good program!  Don't get me wrong.  It just isn't Photoshop.
[08:18] <pike__> Tonren: recommend looking at setting up twinview for external monitor i can paste my xorg.conf file as an example if you like
[08:18] <chico_> the greeter keeps prompting
[08:18] <davin> whats a good GUI FTP client?
[08:18] <Terminus> Tonren: just use whatever works for you. i used to run windows apps in wine too before i got tired of all the tweaking. now i just use windows if i need it. i do hope that linux will eventually have decent third party support though.
[08:19] <stephan__> i installed winblows over ubuntu how can i fix thi
[08:19] <therp> tonren: I use vmware for the stuff I don't get on linux
[08:19] <Tonren> Terminus: I can't stand booting into Windows, you know?  Maybe I'll try out VMWare sometime.
[08:19] <Terminus> davin: i agree with Tonren. GIMP is just about useless for print work. =|
[08:19] <davin> Tonren: I know, Photoshop is actually the most wanted program on Unix (according to worldwide polls) Anyway im gonna go talk in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:19] <Tonren> therp: How is that?  Can you copy and paste between VMWare and Linux?  Does VMWare detect peripherals?
[08:19] <MammalFish> Stephan: Reinstall Ubuntu?  :S
[08:19] <Tonren> pike_: "twinview"?
[08:19] <py__> Setting up postgreSQL on Dapper: I've installed with synaptic, and tried "$ su - postgres" -- but my root system password doesn't work.  Does anyone know how to set up postgres?
[08:20] <davin> Tonren: yes you can copy between vmware and your real os and you can connect devices and then plug them in the VM by a dropdown menu
[08:20] <stephan__> theres another way ....to reinstall the boot loader
[08:20] <Terminus> Tonren: just make sure you've got a computer that can handle it. VMWare isn't really as fast as native when i tried it last time. and forget about DirectX in VMWare.
[08:20] <Tonren> davin: Hmmm.  Maybe I will try it out.
[08:20] <Tonren> Terminus: I have a good box, but it's far from top of the line.
[08:20] <davin> Tonren: are you trying to run Windows in a VM?
[08:20] <Terminus> py__: you need to edit pga.conf?
[08:20] <Tonren> Terminus: It couldn't handle XGL/Compiz.
[08:20] <Tonren> davin: Not at the moment, no.
[08:20] <Terminus> py__: sudo su - postgres
[08:20] <davin> Tonren: okay
[08:20] <davin> whats a good GUI FTP Client?
[08:21] <therp> tonren: not really. cut/paste is only very rudimentary. text and that doesn't work 20% of the time.. peripherals? only usb.
[08:21] <Tonren> davin: gftp?
[08:21] <manofcyrus> hello "human"
[08:21] <stephan__> i installed winblows over ubuntu how can i fix this
[08:21] <davin> Tonren: cheers
[08:21] <Tonren> therien: Lame...
[08:21] <hoelk> davin: kftpgrabber is superbe imho
[08:21] <Tonren> davin: Adios
[08:21] <jrib> stephan__: install ubuntu over winblows
[08:21] <py__> Terminus: thanks, that worked.
[08:21] <Terminus> py__: you're welcome. =)
[08:21] <stephan__> i dont wanna lose my install lol
[08:22] <echobinary> anyone have any ideas on running a headless Dapper box and VNC'ing in with a decent screen resolution? Booting remotely gives me 800x600 (or 640x480) - would like to get at least 1024x768 if not greater
[08:22] <chuckyp> stephan__: create a seperate /home partitioin
[08:22] <Terminus> py__: root is disabled by default on ubuntu. you have to give it a password manually if you want it to work.
[08:22] <Terminus> !root > py__
[08:22] <freek> ok downloaded the .iso ran a md5 in the dir
[08:22] <freek> came back with no errors
[08:22] <freek> now how do I burn the iso correctly
[08:22] <Terminus> stephan__: boot using a livecd, chroot it and reinstall grub.
[08:22] <chuckyp> echobinary: well the screen resloution shouldn't be an issue
[08:22] <Tonren> echobinary: Is X running on the remote box, or are you starting a server on-demand specifically for VNC'ing?
[08:22] <Terminus> freek: on windows or linux?
[08:22] <chuckyp> freek: what operating system are you running to burn the iso?
[08:23] <KDan> is sun's java 1.4.2 not available as an ubuntu package?
[08:23] <py__> Terminus: I know about sudo, but I thought that it was related to su and didn't know they could be used at the same time.  I had tried sudo - postgres, etc...
[08:23] <stephan__> Terminus : exactly not sure how to do that....ubuntu has a good how to but i lostit
[08:23] <echobinary> it boots automatically in the lower rez, and vnc doesnt want to seem to go higher than X's rez
[08:23] <Rez> x's what?
[08:23] <echobinary> yes
[08:23] <echobinary> rez..  resolution
[08:23] <Terminus> py__: oh i see... well, now you know. =)
[08:23] <chuckyp> echobinary: well change x's res to higher
[08:23] <Terminus> stephan__: sorry, i don't exactly have a howto for you here. =|
[08:23] <davin> guys, I followed this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FtpServer  my user 'ftp' has a upload dir @ /home/ftp/upload, so the server is on, but how do I connect? ive tried 10.0.0.151 (my ip), 10.0.0.151/home/ftp/ but none of it works?
[08:23] <chuckyp> echobinary: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:24] <echobinary> ill give that a try
[08:24] <stephan__> Terminus, hehe np
[08:24] <KDan> is sun's java 1.4.2 not available as an ubuntu package?
[08:24] <jrib> KDan: do you specifically need 1.4.2?
[08:24] <KDan> yes
[08:24] <KDan> it's for a 3rd party software that doesn't work on 1.5
[08:24] <chuckyp> davin: well first try pinging that ip and make sure that is the computers ip and that it is responding.
[08:24] <davin> im trying to setup a FTP server on my harddrive for home transfers (lan)
[08:25] <KDan> davin: why not use samba or nfs?
[08:25] <chuckyp> davin: then I would check to make sure that the ftpd is actually running on the box.
[08:25] <davin> chuckyp: yep it responses just like ping localhost
[08:25] <chuckyp> davin: yeah samba nfs or scp is definately an easier solution.
[08:25] <indigoblu> davin: why not use ssh?
[08:25] <KDan> ftp is probably the worst solution of the bunch
[08:25] <jrib> KDan: I don't think it's in the dapper repos.  It's easy to build your own though
[08:26] <KDan> dang. ok, download time again then :-(
[08:26] <davin> indigoblu: sorry, I never actually hosted a server before so I just searched 'ftp' on the wiki and I got to FtpServer...
[08:26] <chuckyp> davin: did that tutorial actually discuss starting the ftpd?  or ftp server?
[08:26] <THX-1138> !grub
[08:26] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:27] <davin> chuckyp: nope just added ftp user and dir, but I can see a upload folder in /home/ftp/upload
[08:27] <Terminus> stephan__: oooh! there's the howto for you! courtesy of THX-1138. hehe
[08:27] <jrib> KDan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java has instructions for isntallation from the sun site and creating a package
[08:27] <indigoblu> davin: well, ftp is insecure (no encryption).  With ssh you can use (scp: to copy files) and (sftp: to access  your files like ftp but secure)
[08:27] <chuckyp> davin: yeah you need to actually install the ftp server or the service that listens on the ftp port.
[08:27] <stephan__> !grub
[08:27] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:27] <KDan> jrib: cheers :-)
[08:28] <stephan__> Terminus, yah!....thats it <3 thanks
[08:28] <stephan__> i need to quit doing this
[08:28] <chuckyp> davin: thats a really crapy guide just goes over user creation doesn't really discuss anything let me find you something better
[08:28] <davin> okay, im trying to let my parents downstairs up/download to my server because im sick of transfering files using usb sticks :)
[08:28] <Pierre> hm
[08:28] <THX-1138> Terminus - I would like to plead Recent refugee from AOL" status  Sancuary! Sanctuary! - lol
[08:28] <Terminus> stephan__: good luck and lol @ THX-1138 =)
[08:28] <Pierre> where should I ask about maintainers of a package in ubuntu? (like testing new version, integrate sec fixes, etc..)?
[08:29] <Pierre> launchpad?
[08:29] <jrib> Pierre: #ubuntu-motu
[08:29] <Pierre> jrib, thanks
[08:29] <chico_> I can not LOG OFF. Clicking SYSTEM - QUIT only closes all my windows and bring me up the GNOME DESKTOP MANAGER menu
[08:29] <davin> chuckyp: cheers mate
[08:30] <chico_> Since nobody seems can help me, would someone just let me know if this Linux thinggy ubuntu has SYSTEM RESTORE feature
[08:30] <chuckyp> davin: are your parents on windows boxes?
[08:30] <davin> chuckyp: yep, its a windows box downstairs
[08:30] <THX-1138> chico_ it's no "fix" but try this create a launcher add shutdown -f now  in the command section  - the f is force filesystem chek and s optional
[08:30] <THX-1138> !backup
[08:30] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[08:31] <davin> chuckyp: its a medion pc from 2003
[08:31] <CromagDK> is it a good thing NOT being able to open synaptics when wanting to update ? :)
[08:31] <chico_> where can i get the LAUNCHER
[08:31] <SupremacyGnu> Hello, When I try sudo apt-get update everything seem to work until I get a GPG error. What do I do?
[08:31] <jisatsu_> I've mounted an NTFS partition, but none of the files and folders with Japanese characters will display, how can I fix this?
[08:32] <Terminus> SupremacyGnu: ignore it. some packages in universe/multiverse aren't signed properly.
[08:32] <THX-1138> CromagDK: It doesn't sound like a good thing. - blech - do you get any error messages?
[08:32] <chico_> I can not LOG OFF. Clicking SYSTEM - QUIT only closes all my windows and bring me up the GNOME DESKTOP MANAGER menu
[08:33] <CromagDK> THX-1138: no it just closes down on me, and i get segmentation fault from CLI if i try
[08:33] <kengur> hi
[08:33] <davin> chuckyp: so should I get a samba/ssh tutorial?
[08:33] <mAIJK> I have installed nvidia-glx and did the enable command and reboot but it still doesnt work when I set driver "nvidia" in my xorg.conf only "nv" work... anyone know what is wrong and how to test if my nvidia driver work properly?
[08:33] <THX-1138> CromagDK: Ugly. - segmentation fault. - can i plead aol refugee again?
[08:33] <Terminus> davin: ssh would probably be the easiest, and you can use filezilla as an sftp client on windows.
[08:33] <SupremacyGnu> Terminus, ah, ok. So it will still update if there's any other updates in any other library?
[08:34] <Terminus> SupremacyGnu: yep. i think so.
[08:34] <CromagDK> THX-1138: if i knew what it was then sure :)
[08:34] <aSt3raL> is there a way to watch video on cnn.com?  a window pops up and says i dont have windows media player
[08:34] <SupremacyGnu> Terminus, ok, thanks
[08:34] <whyme> hey there,
[08:34] <whyme> just a quicky
[08:34] <mAIJK> Terminus,  when I change to driver "nvidia" then Xserver cant load
[08:34] <whyme> how do you burn .nrg files under ubuntu?
[08:34] <kengur> i have an issue, i have ADSL, i connect using Dlink internal PPPoE client, and my network interface eth0 works for like 10 minutes and then goes down, so i have to restart it in network properties
[08:34] <jisatsu_> it's not just Japanese characters either, any non-ascii characters don't work well, I don't think. "Alize" for example. would it be a filesystem driver problem? or something else?
[08:35] <chuckyp> davin: okay well the easiest way to do what you want is to either set up a file sharing network?  or just use scp.  But if you want to install an ftp server http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#FTP_Server
[08:35] <whyme> gnomebaker won't recognise them...
[08:35] <kengur> grr..
[08:35] <JGL> I need help with the audio capture of a logitech quickcam communicate, any advice?
[08:35] <davin> chuckyp: im looking for a solution to let 2 pc's (mine and my parents' windows box downstairs) upload and download files off a ftp server that is stored on my harddrive
[08:35] <Terminus> mAIJK: if you're using the nvidia driver, make sure that glx is loaded and dri and GLCore are NOT loaded.
[08:35] <kengur> i have an issue, i have ADSL, i connect using Dlink internal PPPoE, and the eth0 thing goes down after 10 minues or so, but the modem is connected
[08:35] <THX-1138> chico_: desktop shortcuts can be dragged to the menu bar on the top and bottom of the screen. right click .. launcher   .. command .. "shutdown now" options -f filecheck -r reboot
[08:35] <chuckyp> davin: you may want to read about samba a bit because you could just share files similiar to a windows file sharing network that you are probably use to.  i.e. just browsing for the files etc...
[08:35] <anibal_> t
[08:36] <indigoblu> davin: if you want windows share integartion use samba-server
[08:36] <indigoblu> davin: but if you are going to be remotly accessing files from outside your home network then use ssh
[08:36] <whyme> davi, did you checkout the guide under easylinux.info? it has the step by step instructions to do ust that!! :)
[08:36] <jisatsu_> how do I find out what charset ubuntu is using?
[08:36] <whyme> *davin
[08:36] <chuckyp> davin: like I say if you want to set up a ftp server check out http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#FTP_Server  if you want to set up file sharing just message ubotu about samba
[08:36] <davin> indigoblu: nah just on the lan, like closed port
[08:36] <kengur> could the torrent client (Transmission) put the network down by trying to download too much? or it's stupid even to say that?
[08:36] <mAIJK> Terminus, "dri" is loaded... I made a bracket before it now
[08:36] <davin> okay ill check smb out, thanks guys!
[08:36] <Terminus> jisatsu_: sounds like an encoding problem. man mount and look for ntfs. there's a utf option and probably some other options for it too.
[08:37] <Terminus> mAIJK: just comment it out.
[08:37] <jisatsu_> ok, cool, thanks :) I'll take a look
[08:37] <chuckyp> davin: well if you don't need access outside I would use smb or ssh to copy the files back and forth.
[08:37] <Terminus> jisatsu_: good luck. =)
[08:37] <chuckyp> davin: samba probably being an easier solution.
[08:37] <THX-1138> !ppoe
[08:37] <crimsun> jisatsu_: FWIW, -o nls=utf8
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ppoe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:37] <THX-1138> !dsl
[08:37] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[08:37] <chuckyp> !dsl
[08:37] <chuckyp> THX-1138: ahh beat me to it.
[08:38] <THX-1138> chuckyp - grin
[08:38] <jisatsu_> crimsun: can I put that in fstab anywhere?
[08:38] <THX-1138> Hi crimsun
[08:38] <crimsun> jisatsu_: yes, in the options column
[08:38] <crimsun> hi THX-1138
[08:38] <jisatsu_> crimsun: ok, I'll take a look :)
[08:38] <crimsun> jisatsu_: (just omit -o)
[08:39] <kengur> PPPoE is not the issue, the network goes down, and if i restart eth0 it's back for enother 10 minues
[08:39] <SAS_Spidey01> Can any one tell me if the hardware support in Dapper Drake is the same as Debian Sarge?
[08:39] <THX-1138> crimsun - kengur has an interesting question.
[08:39] <davin> so I have to add a user called samba?
[08:39] <chico_> The create laucher window asks me for Name, generic name, comment
[08:39] <chico_> what should i supply there
[08:40] <davin> default profile points to '/home/samba/profile'
[08:40] <kengur> THX-1138: it's a stupid one, actually... can u put down the network with bittorent client?
[08:40] <jisatsu_> crimsun: that did the trick, thanks :)
[08:41] <kengur> i mean if i just use it for browsing it just keeps on and on
[08:41] <m_tadeu> why does scantv says "device has no tuner"?
[08:41] <kengur> and i never got that before actually, i just got this recently
[08:41] <emerge> how can i add MAC into my /network/interfaces? (i mean syntax requirements)
[08:42] <chico_> i guess i will just reformat this freaking computer
[08:42] <chico_> I should have stayed with windows, this ubuntu is not so newbie friendly
[08:42] <chico_> grr
[08:42] <davin> chico_: whoa whoa whats the problem?
[08:42] <coolnerd> is there a command to scan for occupied ips on linux?
[08:42] <kengur> um... actually i capped the torrent thing at 90 percent... so i'll going to find out soon =)
[08:43] <chico_> All i want is to turn this computer off
[08:43] <chico_> all i see is the SYSTEM - QUIT
[08:43] <chico_> but doing so give me the gnome desktop manager
[08:43] <davin> chico_: from shell?
[08:43] <chico_> over an over again
[08:43] <davin> chico_: open a terminal and type 'sudo halt' ?
[08:43] <coolnerd> is there a command to scan for occupied ips on linux?
[08:43] <pike__> chico_: you cant choose shutdown instead of logoff?
[08:44] <davin> coolnerd: ifconfig?
[08:45] <graft> coolnerd: you mean which ips on a subnet are used?
[08:45] <coolnerd> graft, yes
[08:45] <coolnerd> 192.168.0.*
[08:45] <abbi2b> hi, just to confirm, i have installed ubuntu in my dell, for spm i need .686 kernel right?
[08:45] <graft> coolnerd: try arp -a
[08:45] <Alzi_> Hey. Is automatix safe to use? I'm running it right now. I hope it doesn't screw anything up...
[08:46] <Alzi_> !automatix
[08:46] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[08:46] <kengur> how do i make my USB mount with "no flush"?
[08:46] <davin^afk> afk
[08:46] <graft> coolnerd: sudo arp -a even
[08:47] <coolnerd> thanks graft, it worked
[08:47] <graft> coolnerd: that's not a guarantee, that's just the things that happen to be in your ARP cache at the moment - to be sure you should try pinging the ip, etc.
[08:49] <derpflanz> hey all
[08:49] <graft> yo
[08:50] <derpflanz> I just ran through the flash/java for amd64 howto and it all works fine, except for sound support, both in flash and real. i tried the tips given in the tutorial for flahs, but to no avail
[08:50] <mAIJK> Terminus, I changed to nvidia and I did not get get an X error but My display say  "check signal cable"
[08:50] <ibob63> is there anyway I can turn off viewing when people have entered or left a room when using gaim?
[08:51] <mAIJK> Terminus,  I use same Depth and Mode that works with my nv driver
[08:52] <sjoos> ibob63, press right button an tab and change properties
[08:54] <ibob63> sjoos: I don't appear to have that option
[08:56] <ibob63> although this could because I am currently using gaim on windows :(
[08:56] <[bash] > hi all, can anyone help me with this:
[08:56] <[bash] >  I got windowsXP on my machine, then I got a new hardisk and 10 copies of ubuntu, so I plugged the HDD as slave and installed ubuntu, now when I start my pc I get OS choice from ubuntu, and I want to make it back to read boot.ini in windows so I can remove the slave HDD
[08:56] <ubuntu> !grub
[08:56] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:57] <rbd> is asterisk's addons package (containg res_mysql.so, res_mysql.conf, etc) available as a ubuntu package? (I can't find it via packages.ubuntu.org)
[08:58] <anon32> newbie question - how can I edit mp3 tags? the edit - media information thingy in rhytmbox doesn't let me change anything
[08:58] <ibob63> rbd: I'm using astrisk and i'll just have a quite look for you..
[08:58] <link_36p> Anyone have any clue why when i log on my desktop freezes? Im running with ati driver and this happened while trying to get fglrx to work
[08:58] <Tonren> Hey guys, what's a good app for converting WMA to MP3?
[08:59] <Shaezsche> anyone know how to get the interl wireless 3945 working under ubuntu??
[08:59] <rbd> ibob63: thanks, I don't seem to see it, at least with 6.06
[08:59] <anon32> Tonren, don't - your music will be even more crappy then
[08:59] <Tonren> anon32: I can't play WMAs with MPD.
[08:59] <anon32> Tonren, get w32codecs
[08:59] <CromagDK> uhm anyone knows any good CRC check apps ?
[09:00] <CromagDK> i now get a CRC error on boot :(
[09:00] <anon32> CromagDK, um... isn't there crc
[09:00] <Tonren> anon32: Sweet.
[09:00] <Shaezsche> anyone know how to get the interl wireless 3945 working under ubuntu??
[09:00] <CromagDK> THX-1138: the error was a CRC fault..
[09:00] <CromagDK> anon32: ehm crc ?
[09:00] <bruenig> !repeat
[09:00] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:00] <anon32> so... anyone tell me how I can I edit mp3 tags?
[09:00] <anon32> CromagDK, guess not
[09:00] <bruenig> !info cowbell
[09:00] <CromagDK> huh ?
[09:00] <ubotu> cowbell: An easy-to-use tag editor for your music files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.7-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 94 kB, installed size 540 kB
[09:00] <Tonren> anon32: Wait, wait.  I already have them installed, and MPD won't recognize WMAs.
[09:00] <pike__> rbd: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26093/ thats all im showing looking at all the official repos
[09:00] <ibob63> rbd: I can't seem to find it in any of the repositories.
[09:01] <[bash] > how can I log in to ubuntu using root?
[09:01] <anon32> bruenig, thanks
[09:01] <Tonren> anon32: Or EasyTAG
[09:01] <Tonren> anon32: How do I get MPD/MPC to recognize w32codecs?
[09:01] <bruenig> !root > [bash] 
[09:01] <anon32> Tonren, you might want to just change your media player? MPlayer and VLC both recognize them
[09:01] <rbd> okay thanks guys, looks like not then (I think it is due to licensing issues with mysql)
[09:01] <Sambrista> Hi everybody. I've an AMD Sempron 3000+ . Which one is the correct kernel version, k7 or 686??
[09:02] <anon32> and the default music player will use w32codecs if they're installed
[09:02] <Tonren> anon32: I don't like those media players.
[09:02] <anon32> Tonren, mm...
[09:02] <ubuntu> ype "root (hd0,6)", or whatever your harddisk + boot partition numbers are (my /boot is at /dev/sda7, which translates to hd0,6 for grub).
[09:02] <pike__> Tonren: you dont like mplayer? i  use it under windows as well..
[09:02] <anon32> Tonren, life's about compromise - you can use VLC's save as option to encode, but I recommend a lossless transcode such as FLAC
[09:02] <Shaezsche> how much of a performance difference will the 686 kernel make over the 386 if im got a dual core pentium M?
[09:02] <ryanr> I am looking at the output from a fdisk -l on 2 computers the one that is working properly has a * in the column for boot the one that is not booting properly does not have an * How significant is that?
[09:02] <ubuntu> how do i figure out what tyhe number is if its /dev/hda3 for my root?
[09:02] <Tonren> pike__: I'm a fan of MPC's simplicity.  Who needs a GUI?
[09:02] <anon32> pike_, I never managed to get mplayer to use my dvds... I like VLC
[09:03] <esac_> hi does anybody use parallels? if so, is there a way to mount other physical ntfs partitions on the computer? also is there a way to send some keystrokes to the host instead of the guest ( such as ctrl+alt+<- )
[09:03] <ubuntu> how do i figure out what tyhe number is if its /dev/hda3 for my root? like root (hd0,6)
[09:03] <Tonren> anon32: I'll just find a conversion script and turn 'em into MP3s.  I don't mind a little loss of quality.  That's my compromise.
[09:03] <pike__> Shaezsche: a big diff if the default 386 doenst support smp
[09:03] <nikola> hey guys i need help blanking a cdrw
[09:03] <nikola> i am getting the following message: Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied
[09:03] <bruenig> !info gnomebaker
[09:03] <ubotu> gnomebaker: application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 862 kB, installed size 2640 kB
[09:03] <anon32> Tonren, but you know, hard disk space is cheap, why not re-encode to FLAC?
[09:04] <[bash] > I created a new user, but how can I set this user to have full privilages
[09:04] <anon32> !k3b
[09:04] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[09:04] <Sambrista> ubuntu: it would be hd0,2  (the first digit is for the harddrive and the second for the partition, using 0 as the first digi
[09:04] <Sambrista> t
[09:04] <ubuntu> thanks
[09:04] <Tonren> anon32: 'Cause my shitty MP3 player can only play MP3s.
[09:04] <nikola> hello guys i need help blanking a cdrw
[09:04] <anon32> [bash] , under users and groups, select every permission available
[09:04] <Tonren> anon32: Besides, aren't WMAs lossy? What's the use of re-encoding from lossy to lossless?
[09:05] <anon32> too bad gnomebaker sucks compared to k3b... but k3b is 50MB to download under GNOME
[09:05] <esac_> ubotu tell nikola about k3b
[09:05] <anon32> Tonren, lol
[09:05] <anon32> Tonren, WMAs are far from lossless...
[09:05] <pike__> [bash] : you can sudo gedit /etc/group and any group the original user is in put the new one like sound:x:23:user1,user2
[09:05] <bruenig> gnomebaker never fails for me
[09:05] <graft> this is why everyone should be running kde anyway
[09:05] <dyn-afk> wma is lossy as hell :P
[09:05] <ubuntu> Sambrista 5. Type "setup (hd0)", ot whatever your harddisk nr is. what does this mean
[09:05] <anon32> well, if you transcode lossy, it turns crap... if you transcode lossy to lossless, you get a larger size
[09:05] <boink> you need to put each user into the sound group in order to listen to sound?
[09:05] <dyn-afk> and it still is crap
[09:05] <Tonren> anon32: Well, I don't want a larger size... I'm just making them MP3s, dude.
[09:06] <anon32> bruenig, it appears to not have DVD-DL support
[09:06] <anon32> Tonren, go ahead and get LAME then
[09:06] <bruenig> never used that, must be why I never had a problem
[09:06] <Tonren> anon32: I downloaded a script called audio-convert
[09:06] <kengur> THX-1138: i got the same thing, apparently i didn't even get disconnected... but all the trafic stopped =(
[09:06] <anon32> Tonren, you may or may not have to save as wav first
[09:06] <anon32> bruenig, mm.... but k3b is much closer to Nero, which is incidentally unparalleled
[09:07] <Tonren> anon32: The script worked fine, man.  I might hack it to do batch conversions.
[09:07] <bruenig> nero for linux exists
[09:07] <bruenig> use that
[09:07] <boink> but it's commericial
[09:07] <anon32> Tonren, LAME is easily the best mp3 encoding codec
[09:07] <bruenig> it's garbage too
[09:07] <davin> Im having trouble setting up my smb server
[09:07] <|_SpY_|> sombody knows how i set a DNS for a ethernet ?
[09:07] <boink> !nero
[09:07] <twitch> does anyone here have a psp??
[09:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nero - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:07] <anon32> bruenig, but it's payware
[09:07] <Tonren> anon32: That's probably what it uses
[09:07] <scott> anyone knwo why when I try to install emacs-snapshot it wants to uninstall openoffice, some dictionaries, and some python libs?
[09:07] <pike__> bruenig: i thought nero for linux was just a front end to existing tools the other burners already use?
[09:07] <bruenig> yeah and it sucks, I pirated it and it was worse than gnomebaker
[09:07] <anon32> twitch, um... why?
[09:07] <graft> |_SpY_|: get a nick that's easier to ype, then edit your /etc/resolv.conf
[09:07] <dyn-afk> bruenig isn't nero for linux just xcdroast?
[09:08] <bruenig> don't know
[09:08] <|_SpY_|> graft: its my nick :p thankz to help :)
[09:08] <anon32> question: anyone here know what the best way to open a 800MB text file is?
[09:08] <pike__> |_SpY_|: sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf  a dns server entry would be like "nameserver 192.168.0.1"
[09:08] <bruenig> vim file
[09:08] <graft> anon32: vim
[09:08] <centoslayman> anyone need help?
[09:08] <XxTwitchxX> Does ANONE here have a PSP
[09:08] <dyn-afk> vi or vim anon32
[09:08] <anon32> graft, anything graphical?
[09:09] <LjL> pike__: are you sure that what you stick into /etc/resolv.conf actually sticks? i think there's a daemon that will overwrite that at boot
[09:09] <bruenig> gedit
[09:09] <dyn-afk> you might want to apply more pressure on you rleft mouse button :P
[09:09] <graft> anon32: god no, you'll destroy everything
[09:09] <XxTwitchxX> can anyone here me??
[09:09] <dyn-afk> LjL whatever you put in /etc/resolv.conf will stick
[09:09] <graft> anon32: you're already pushing the envelope with 800M files, stick with console apps
[09:09] <pike__> LjL: well its dynamic so it will change not sure about what actually writes it on boot
[09:09] <LjL> dyn-afk: well, that wasn't the case on my Kubuntu Dapper install
[09:09] <davin> XxTwitchxX: yep
[09:09] <anon32> graft, just our of curiosity, will vim load it to memory?
[09:09] <bruenig> how could a text file possibly be 800 MB
[09:09] <anon32> I only have 512MB RAM
[09:09] <anon32> bruenig, it's a huge logfile
[09:10] <dyn-afk> LjL sometimes it will be overwriten because of the DHCP config
[09:10] <XxTwitchxX> ok, for a while it wasnt working :P
[09:10] <graft> anon32: yeah... you'll probably have to swap
[09:10] <bruenig> ah, has it logged the history of all computers?
[09:10] <LjL> dyn-afk: i made sure i set up static address in the KDE settings
[09:10] <anon32> graft, there wouldn't be some obscure app that loads it incrementally?
[09:10] <LjL> dyn-afk: i think i resolved it by removing the "resolvconf" package, or some similarly called
[09:10] <XxTwitchxX> Does anyone here have a PSP, because for some reason whenever i use linux and try and move music onto it, it never works
[09:10] <anon32> XxTwitchxX, and that doesn't suprise me, why?
[09:11] <ere> how can I change the menu in Gnome for all users? according to information I have read a special URI can be used in Nautilus, but when I try I just get messages that the URI cannot be opened
[09:11] <XxTwitchxX> anon32, uhh i dont know?
[09:11] <kengur> XxTwitchxX: right click on the media and Eject
[09:11] <XxTwitchxX> kengur, oh i do that after im done?
[09:11] <dyn-afk> ere you might need root privileges to make the changes
[09:11] <ryanr> I am looking at the output from a fdisk -l on 2 computers the one that is working properly has a * in the column for boot the one that is not booting properly does not have an * How significant is that?
[09:11] <dyn-afk> afterall, it's a systemfile
[09:12] <dyn-afk> ryanr apparently very significant :P
[09:12] <ere> dyn-afk: I think i tried with sudo natutilus <uri>, which also just gave me error messages
[09:12] <Zaggynl> how do I use lsof to only display open files, not network info?
[09:12] <dyn-afk> have you tried to change the config on the other machine so it also has a * ?
[09:12] <bruenig> ere, use gksudo not sudo for graphical apps
[09:12] <graft> anon32: um, not sure... i'd just try vim and see how it does
[09:12] <anon32> graft, done it... I had to hard reset
[09:12] <kengur> XxTwitchxX: i mean move the music first then Eject
[09:13] <XxTwitchxX> kengur, Worked like a charm, thanks alot!!!
[09:13] <graft> anon32: ow. out of curiosity, what is the file?
[09:13] <kengur> damn, someone please help me with this eth0 issue =(
[09:13] <anon32> graft, again, it's a massive unsplit log file
[09:13] <pike__> ryanr: you need on partition flagged bootable in fact cfdisk will complain if you try to write and quit without it
[09:14] <graft> anon32: do you have syntax highlighting off?
[09:14] <LjL> anon32: well, what do you want to do with it? search for some entries? edit it? there might be tools suited to the particular thing you want to do to it
[09:14] <anon32> graft, yep....
[09:14] <anon32> LjL, I want to read it... lol
[09:14] <graft> anon32: less?
[09:14] <anon32> although, I'm awfully close to just using a hexeditor and reading it
[09:14] <anon32> graft, everything's off
[09:14] <SeanTater> anon32: use tail or head (in the cli)
[09:14] <LjL> anon32, i can't believe you actually want to "read" all of it without any searching or something... heck, wikipedia is probably less than 800mb!
[09:14] <ryanr> pike_  The computer will boot to ubuntu but not to XP. Grub has a listing for xp but it ignores it.
[09:14] <dyn-afk> anon32 you can use awk if you want to split the file into smaller portions
[09:15] <graft> anon32: no, use less to read it...
[09:15] <dyn-afk> :P
[09:15] <XxTwitchxX> kengur, one more question, whenever i plug in my psp, rythmbox starts automatically, is there anyway to stop that?
[09:15] <anon32> LjL, wikipedia is 40GB
[09:15] <LjL> dyn-afk: or just the command "split" ;)
[09:15] <LjL> anon32: if you consider the entire edit history, probably. definitely *not* if you don't
[09:15] <SeanTater> anon32: even without images or scripts?
[09:15] <graft> wikipedia is like 2 gs of actual text
[09:15] <dyn-afk> depends on how you want to split a file LjL
[09:15] <graft> plus images it might be more, but the text is actually quite small
[09:15] <spatry> Hi.  How do I query which package contains a file?  like "what provides"?
[09:15] <anon32> SeanTater, well, text only it's only a couple hundred megs
[09:15] <spatry> with apt-?
[09:16] <LjL> !apt-file > spatry
[09:16] <SeanTater> anon32: exactly...
[09:16] <kengur> XxTwitchxX: dunno actually
[09:16] <kengur> XxTwitchxX: don't have a psp
[09:16] <XxTwitchxX> kengur, lol bummer :P
[09:16] <spatry> LjL: thx, I'll try
[09:16] <scott> spatry: packages.ubuntu.com
[09:16] <XxTwitchxX> Does anyone know how to stop rythmbox from automatically starting whenever you plug in a flash USB device?
[09:17] <whiprush> XxTwitchxX: look in system->prefs->removable drives and media
[09:18] <XxTwitchxX> whiprush, Yup that did the trick :D
[09:18] <KDan> is there a way to tell *nix to run a script as a particular user?
[09:18] <KDan> e.g.: runasuser 3rdparty my3rdpartyscript.sh
[09:18] <yogurtthewise> hi there
[09:18] <LjL> KDan: "su", i suppose
[09:18] <yogurtthewise> what was that indexing program similar to beagle?
[09:19] <yogurtthewise> there's one afaik which ubuntu tried to push a while back
[09:19] <anon32> say, what's better - su or sudo?
[09:19] <ere> spatry: you can use dpkg -S <filename> for instance dpkg -S /sbin/mkswap will return util-linux
[09:20] <XxTwitchxX> Anyone here use ZSnes?
[09:20] <mwe> or use apt-file search
[09:20] <pike__> KDan: heres an example doing that for vncserver on my machine su - username -c "vncserver :1" you can replace stuff in quotes with whatever
[09:20] <LjL> anon32: you usually use sudo on ubuntu. however, i was thinking about a generic situation on a generic unix when you want to run a script as a different user, honestly
[09:21] <yogurtthewise> always more useless
[09:21] <Snark> hi
[09:21] <XxTwitchxX> Does anyone here use ZSnes
[09:21] <LjL> !anyone
[09:21] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:22] <graft> anon32: only advantage of sudo is you have to remember only 1 password, i think
[09:22] <mwe> I don't think sudo lets you run something as a different user except root, does it?
[09:22] <dyn-afk> if you don;t set a password for the root account and you manage to screw up your useraccount with admin privileges then you need to do some tricks with the livecd
[09:22] <KDan> pike__: cheers
[09:22] <LjL> graft: *and* you don't have to type "exit" if you only want to execute a single command as the different user
[09:22] <dyn-afk> if you have a root account with a password you know then it's very easy to fix
[09:22] <anon32> I like su because well... you can keep typing stuff
[09:22] <dyn-afk> sudo -i will do that too anon32
[09:22] <XxTwitchxX> Whenever I use ZSnes, there is always a 1 second delay between when i press a button, and the sound that it should make, anyone know any fixes/
[09:22] <LjL> anon32: type "sudo -i" or "sudo -s" for that
[09:22] <graft> mwe -  you can do sudo -u, i think?
[09:23] <anon32> meh
[09:23] <dyn-afk> besides that...su means that you become a different user
[09:23] <graft> LjL su - c, man
[09:23] <dyn-afk> which sudo doesn't
[09:23] <LjL> graft: uh?
[09:23] <KDan> su works
[09:23] <graft> LjL err, su -c
[09:23] <KDan> thanks all
[09:23] <XxTwitchxX> Anyone?
[09:23] <LjL> dyn-afk, well, in practical terms maybe, but "sudo allows a permitted user to execute a command as the superuser or another user, as specified in the sudoers file."
[09:23] <anon32> I hate Ubuntu, all my spyware doesn't run anymore :-P
[09:24] <XxTwitchxX> anon32, lmao
[09:24] <LjL> graft: ok, but what with su -c?
[09:24] <graft> sudo has timestamping, su doesn't...
[09:24] <davin> Im adding a user for my samba user but the /hiome/samba folder doesnt come up
[09:24] <davin> I tried mkdir
[09:24] <mwe> graft: yeah, looking at the man page it seems you're right. I didn't know
[09:24] <XxTwitchxX> I cant get my viruses working >.<
[09:24] <dyn-afk> LjL: su does more then that :)
[09:24] <jmitchj> Does anyone know if it is possible to get Mplayer video playing through my s-video to my TV through ubuntu?
[09:24] <dyn-afk> su username means you become that user
[09:24] <KDan> anon32: try running it under WINE
[09:24] <graft> LjL - su -c odesn't require you to hit ctrl-d after it runs a command
[09:24] <anon32> KDan, lol
[09:24] <dyn-afk> sudo is only used to hand out some root privileges
[09:25] <anon32> KDan, but what if it was fancy DirectX spyware?
[09:25] <LjL> graft: ah, ok
[09:25] <dyn-afk> su is different from that
[09:25] <KDan> anon32: nothing's impossible under linux :-)
[09:25] <KDan> i'm sure it'll work with the crossover plugin and all that
[09:25] <KDan> you might have to hack around a bit before the most fancy spyware works
[09:25] <graft> jmitchj: depends what card you have
[09:25] <anon32> KDan, but you have to *pay* for crossover/cedega
[09:25] <dyn-afk> if you don't set the right permissions on a file/dir you might run into problems with sudo and you need su -
[09:26] <LjL> anon32: well, wine has experimental DirectWhatever support. just wait
[09:26] <maXlo> hello!
[09:26] <KDan> anon32: you get what you pay for
[09:26] <anon32> :-p
[09:26] <dyn-afk> sudo isn't a full root, su - is
[09:26] <graft> jmitchj: i've only ever done it for ATIs using 'atitvout' app, assuming Xorg supports tvout for your card
[09:26] <budluva> hrmm i have a small problem with my new ati drivers
[09:26] <jmitchj> graft: I have a Compaq Presario R4000 laptop with ATI i'm pretty sure
[09:26] <anon32> WINE is sloooow... I just tested utorrent on it yesterday and god was the app laggy
[09:26] <maXlo> I need ugently a live-cd that uses grub as it bootloader, and i think that the old ubuntus did so
[09:26] <maXlo> but not the new ones
[09:26] <KDan> anon32: most spyware are pretty lightweight
[09:26] <maXlo> am i correct/
[09:27] <graft> jmitchj: yeah fiddle around with atitvout
[09:27] <KDan> they only slow down your computer when they want to
[09:27] <bruenig> anon32, I use utorrent, works perfect, I am running it right now, in fact it always runs on its own workspace
[09:27] <anon32> KDan, lol
[09:27] <dyn-afk> why would you want to have grub as a bootloader for a livecd maXlo ?
[09:27] <kengur> how do i change MTU on eth0?
[09:27] <anon32> bruenig, meh, I just notice lag and slowness in the widgets (or whatever they're called in Windows)
[09:27] <XxTwitchxX> I hate ZSNES
[09:27] <bruenig> oh the little wine system tray thing?
[09:27] <dyn-afk> kengur: do a man ifconfig, it's there in the manpage
[09:27] <TokuRed> anyone here from indonesia... i'd like to ask something...
[09:27] <jmitchj> graft: Thanks, i'll give it a try
[09:28] <KDan> fyi: sudo -i -u dan /root/test.sh << also works
[09:28] <maXlo> dyn-afk: I need to edit the boot options (it's a long story :S)
[09:28] <kengur> dyn-afk: thanks
[09:28] <maXlo> dyn-afk: I need to boot a windows partition :(
[09:28] <THX-1138>    !irc
[09:28] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[09:28] <dyn-afk> maXlo then boot with the livecd, mount the root partition on the harddrive and change the option for grub
[09:28] <jmitchj> graft: do you know if it's available for 64bit processor?
[09:29] <dyn-afk> if you run grub on the livecd and change that it means it will change the grub config of the livecd and not the one on your harddrive
[09:29] <THX-1138> there are channels for most languages. - sorry i don't know what language is spoken in Indonesia.
[09:29] <kengur> dyn-afk: may be you can also answer the main question here i'm at.. i have ADSL over PPPoE and my network goes down even though the modem is still connected
[09:29] <dyn-afk> in other words: changing the grub of the livecd is pretty much useless
[09:29] <anon32> !bsd
[09:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bsd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:29] <anon32> lmao
[09:29] <anon32> but it knows
[09:29] <maXlo> dyn-afk: it is not that easy. i had to romeve linux from that hard disk (my boss...), and i need to boot to windows. unfotunately, i screwed up the mbr
[09:29] <TokuRed> lol
[09:29] <anon32> !Windows
[09:29] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[09:29] <deadwalkin> hey guys need help trying to get my laptop to work with this but res is up the creek lol samsung V25 any one no
[09:29] <dyn-afk> does it come up again kengur ?
[09:30] <TokuRed> okay THX-1138 ... ^^
[09:30] <dyn-afk> maXlo you want to restore your mbr so windows will boot again?
[09:30] <dyn-afk> if so it's easier:
[09:30] <dyn-afk> get your windows cd
[09:30] <dyn-afk> boot from it
[09:30] <kengur> dyn-afk: no i manually restart the eth0 from network properties, i don't even get disconnected fron IRC, but all the trafic stops
[09:30] <KDan> THX-1138: how can ubotu not know about the best irc client, irssi?
[09:30] <dyn-afk> if it's win2k or xp then go to the rescue console
[09:31] <dyn-afk> type fixmbr and reboot
[09:31] <dyn-afk> that's it
[09:31] <kengur> dyn-afk: the PPPoE thing is via my Dlink modem internal client
[09:31] <maXlo> dyn-afk: yes.... and i do not have the CD
[09:31] <deadwalkin> does any one no how to get the res to work on the samsung V25
[09:31] <JDStone> anyone here familiar with smartmontools and SATA drives?
[09:31] <maXlo> dyn-afk: it is my job
[09:31] <maXlo> dyn-afk: sorry:
[09:31] <jmitchj> graft: do you know if it's available for 64bit processor?
[09:31] <dyn-afk> try to get a hold of a bootdisk with fdisk
[09:31] <anon32> gah, I just notice that writing mp3 tags is a tedious task... is there a tool to automate this (i.e. write a set of tags for every file in a directory)?
[09:31] <THX-1138> Tokured - We could try to help you here. - it may take longer
[09:31] <maXlo> dyn-afk: it is my job's laptop, the do not have the CD
[09:31] <dyn-afk> fdisk /mbr also helps maXlo (it does the same as fixmbr btw)
[09:31] <graft> jmitchj: processor shouldn't matter
[09:32] <KDan> anon32: many such tools. look on freshmeat.net
[09:32] <dyn-afk> if they don't have the cd then their idiots :P
[09:32] <jmitchj> graft: The debian package says it's I386
[09:32] <maXlo> dyn-afk: the disk is a SCSI one... any bootdisk will do? dont i need some special driver?
[09:32] <THX-1138> KDan - Do you have the command to ignore channel messges? enter and quit?
[09:32] <dyn-afk> you might maXlo
[09:32] <ubuntu> y0
[09:32] <dyn-afk> but if it's a computer from work then let them fix it
[09:32] <dyn-afk> it's their job :P
[09:32] <deadwalkin> lol you do when you have installed this and your drivers r naff. but run ok when you have fed 6 on it
[09:33] <KDan> THX-1138: hmm, no, those don't bother me. why, is that the reason you don't use it?
[09:33] <ubuntu> how do i determine what wireless card my laptop has?
[09:33] <maXlo> dyn-afk: i will try... i have a win xp xp1 installation disk, but i doesnot recognize my hard disk, and it refuses to open a rescue console
[09:33] <dyn-afk> kengur only has 1 modem and it's from d-link ?
[09:33] <ubuntu> and what driver to use?
[09:33] <maXlo> dyn-afk: so, i can not run fixmbr :D
[09:33] <THX-1138> KDan - I love irssi - the docs are thin - found a few  commands but not all and not enough of them.
[09:33] <kengur> dyn-afk: could it be that MTU on the modem is 1400 and on my eth0 1500 and that causing this?
[09:33] <ere> ubuntu: try to use lshw
[09:34] <dyn-afk> could be, but it can be like anything
[09:34] <dyn-afk> your isp might have some troubles
[09:34] <pike__> ubuntu: lspci -v might be a start. you might copy and run this in a terminal sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[09:34] <deadwalkin> please please need help have just put ubuntu on my laptop but res will only stay at 640 need to fix it love this new style
[09:34] <dyn-afk> you might have some wiring problem
[09:34] <dyn-afk> etc.
[09:34] <THX-1138> KDan - I couldn't make sense of /bot <command>
[09:34] <KDan> http://ref.yadda.net/irssi-manual.txt
[09:34] <kengur> dyn-afk: yes, its the only one i have that actually works with linux, cause u don't have to install any drivers =)
[09:34] <dyn-afk> :P
[09:35] <THX-1138> KDan - Thanks going to check it out.
[09:35] <ubuntu> ok ill try
[09:35] <KDan> i think /ignore #ubuntu JOINS perhaps
[09:35] <KDan> yep
[09:35] <KDan> seems to do it
[09:35] <maXlo> ok, thanks a lot! I will give it another try
[09:35] <dyn-afk> kengur can you hook up a different machine on that modem ?
[09:35] <KDan> and /ignore #ubuntu PARTS
[09:35] <railz> what package provides disks-admin?
[09:36] <KDan> there. can't see any joins/parts
[09:36] <kengur> dyn-afk: so could the MTU thing cause that? i recently got speed increased by my ISP and i never had this issue with eth0 going down so frequiently before
[09:36] <KDan> also /ignore #ubuntu QUITS
[09:36] <THX-1138> KDan - hm, wondering how i missed that. - nice link thank you.
[09:36] <kengur> dyn-afk: nop, i have only 1 puter =(
[09:36] <dyn-afk> shoot :(
[09:36] <ubuntu> huh?
[09:36] <KDan> THX-1138: no problem :-P does seem hard to miss, it's the first link when googling "irssi manual" :-P
[09:36] <cRoW2k> hi
[09:36] <dyn-afk> mtu might just be a setting on the internetside of the modem
[09:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Is there a way to restart my Ubuntu Internet connection.  If I boot up and do not have my modem on it does not see the internet even after I turn it on.
[09:37] <dyn-afk> so it's the modem's job to translate that to ethernet
[09:37] <THX-1138> KDan - you are a funny guy. - lol - NOT! ;)
[09:37] <dyn-afk> it actually translates atm to ethernet and the other way around
[09:37] <bruenig> Jack_Sparrow, usually I do sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[09:37] <cRoW2k> i've remove powernowd to install cpufreq, but after reboot, cpufreq fail to start. Someone can help me ?
[09:37] <dyn-afk> different protocols, different mtu's :)
[09:37] <fanch_> hello
[09:37] <KDan> THX-1138: you can set most of that stuff in the startup file i believe, though don't ask me how... my irssi box very rarely reboots so i can't be bothered :-)
[09:37] <Jack_Sparrow> bruenig: thanks
[09:38] <kengur> dyn-afk: i totally don't have a clue, but it goes down when i load the channel full capacity, which isn't much.. 512kbps actually
[09:39] <jmitchj> graft: any other ideas other than atitvout?...it won;t install on my system
[09:39] <CromagDK> !crc
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <deadwalkin> sorry guys but still have a res issue with a samsung V25
[09:39] <dyn-afk> kengur me neither :(
[09:40] <THX-1138> KDan - It seems much faster to type what you need than wade through a gui. even when it isn't it can be scripted to do *exactly* what you want.
[09:40] <cRoW2k> nothing ?
[09:40] <dyn-afk> get in contact with your isp, let them check the connection, maybe they see something wrong between them and your modem that causes the link to go down
[09:40] <phaedrus44> i just found out my card is broadcom 4311     ....how to go about installing the wireless/
[09:41] <phaedrus44> ?
[09:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !broadcom
[09:41] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:41] <phaedrus44> !broadcom
[09:41] <deadwalkin> i need help please as i have a samsung V25 and just installed ubuntu and my res will not change to any thin part from it looks like i am in safe mode on windows
[09:41] <Jack_Sparrow> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[09:41] <boink> I don't know if the chip on the broadcomm 4311 is supported by linux
[09:42] <pike__> phaedrus44: broadcom..
[09:42] <Jack_Sparrow> phaedrus44: The second link will get you there faster
[09:42] <pike__> shudders*
[09:42] <phaedrus44> ok..thanks
[09:42] <dudley> someone know how to stick glibc 2.4 or greater onto ubuntu?
[09:42] <and1> Hi! My recording level is really quiet. Capture is cranked right up in volume control, but still on playback I can hardly hear the recording. everything else at that same playback volume level is fine. Ideas? thanks.
[09:43] <pike__> and1: this is for a mic?
[09:43] <deadwalkin> ok how do i get some support for this rogram
[09:43] <and1> yeah.... headset
[09:43] <deadwalkin> program
[09:43] <kengur> there it goes again =(
[09:43] <knight__> REGISTER checkmate
[09:43] <deadwalkin> i might aswell go back to fed 6
[09:43] <pike__> and1: run alsamixer and there is a boost option highlight it and hit m
[09:44] <deadwalkin> i have a samsung V25 res is staying at 640 and will not give me the option to change it
[09:44] <Jack_Sparrow> deadwalkin: Did you install the drivers for your video card or is it still vesa
[09:44] <phaedrus44> i did modprobe bcm43xx   and now wha?
[09:44] <phaedrus44> iwconfig doesnt list the card
[09:44] <SkramX> If I want to dualboot windows and ubuntu (on a laptop), which should I install first? Windows so it doesnt overwrite the (GRUB) bootloader?
[09:44] <pike__> and1: inside alsamixer there are some additional settings you can get to by hitting F4
[09:45] <THX-1138> Windows
[09:45] <SkramX> THX-1138: okay
[09:45] <Jack_Sparrow> SkramX: WIndows first and on the first partition works best
[09:45] <SkramX> time to have fun
[09:45] <THX-1138> !grub > SkramX
[09:46] <SkramX> ok
[09:46] <deadwalkin> sorry mate thats above me lol
[09:46] <THX-1138> SkramX - It will work in a single click "install" from the standard iso.
[09:46] <deadwalkin> i had windows on here before and installed unbuntu
[09:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[09:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:46] <deadwalkin> thanks mate
[09:47] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[09:47] <THX-1138> SkramX - Welcome to the linux community.
[09:47] <Jack_Sparrow> later people.. play nice...
[09:47] <deadwalkin> i thought the samsung V25 was pentium graphics
[09:47] <SkramX> THX-1138: im not new to linux :)
[09:47] <blkcamarozr28> Anyone know if there are any free software that you can load up on your web server so you can do a network speed test?
[09:47] <Tru7h> Which file should I download and install for Gaim?
[09:47] <SkramX> I use gentoo for work all the time
[09:48] <SkramX> I am just going to reinstall windows on my acer laptop and try out ubuntu
[09:48] <SkramX> i need windows for webdev work i do
[09:48] <SkramX> :)
[09:48] <Ramunas> SkramX: I do webdev on linux, no problems
[09:48] <SkramX> right.. i want to do testing with I.E.
[09:48] <boink> Tru7th:: apt-get install gaim
[09:49] <SkramX> as well as gtk on windows stuff when i get into it
[09:49] <ubunt> hi. what bittorrent client is good?
[09:49] <and1> pike__: thanks heaps. Alsamixer sorted it out perfectly.
[09:49] <KDan> THX-1138: indeed - that's what i like about irssi. it's like the linux of irc clients :-)
[09:50] <Tru7h> boink: It says "permission denied"
[09:50] <pike__> and1: ran into the same thing yesterday setting up ekiga :)
[09:50] <KDan> THX-1138: bitchx is the only comparable client, but the difference is that in bitchx everything seems to be set up by default to be wrong, whereas in irssi all the default settings are more or less correct
[09:50] <THX-1138> Skramx - Gentoo? - Okay. You have true "Street Cred'" with me (Refugee from AOL and have used Ubuntu for almost a year) gentoo docs are very good. - Shh! you didn't hear that from me.
[09:51] <boink> Tru7th: sudo apt-get install gaim
[09:51] <SkramX> THX-1138: what? hehe
[09:51] <SkramX> gentoo was my first major distro i used full time on home computers and i use it at work too
[09:51] <THX-1138> KDan - irssi is just great. - Only beginning to discover the power of scripting.
[09:52] <boink> duh .. irssi I mean :P
[09:52] <hou5ton> I can't get my wireless to work on Dapper .... any help?  It doesn't seem to see the networks
[09:52] <KDan> boink++
[09:52] <kyja> hou5ton, we have a problem
[09:52] <kyja> lol
[09:52] <hou5ton> yep
[09:52] <hou5ton> LOL
[09:52] <THX-1138> SramX - I was just being silly. - everyone knoes more about linux than i do. see websters dictionary "Noob" - thats my pic near the definition.
[09:52] <kyja> hou5ton, ok I might be able to help
[09:53] <BHSPitLappy> I could really use help with wireless, as well.
[09:53] <kyja> hou5ton, what is your wireless?
[09:53] <Tru7h> Gaim crashes right after I log onto my MSN account.
[09:53] <THX-1138> KDan - do you have a script for spell checking. - ah nvm i would just add made up words anyway.
[09:53] <BHSPitLappy> Tru7h, what version?
[09:54] <KDan> THX-1138: no i haven't scripted it much - as i said it seems to do most things right out of the box
[09:54] <phI||Ip> Im new to Linux...  Im not sure how to find out if my Centrino chipset is supported in Ubuntu... including the 3D video, intel 945gm
[09:54] <Tru7h> It's the latest one, I just checked.
[09:54] <KDan> haven't even bothered setting up autojoin!
[09:54] <anon32> A quick question: I know that Vorbis encodes at a better quality than MP3, but is there a codec that beats Vorbis?
[09:54] <phI||Ip> I was thinking of using Cedega for casual gaming
[09:54] <Tru7h> @BHSPitLappy
[09:54] <KDan> anon32: wav
[09:54] <BHSPitLappy> phI||Ip, your video driver shold be i810, and yes
[09:54] <KDan> anon32: pcm-encoded wav that is
[09:54] <THX-1138> FLAC - lossless
[09:54] <hou5ton> internal ... BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN
[09:54] <KDan> or flac too
[09:54] <anon32> ok, is there a better lossy codec?
[09:54] <BHSPitLappy> Tru7h, 2.0beta3.1?
[09:54] <and1> advice.. after installing dapper, do you think it's a good idea to check all the Ubuntu channels under installation media? as well as enabling universe and multiverse?
[09:55] <hou5ton> kyja:  BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN
[09:55] <phI||Ip> Sweet, I know it detected my wireless perfectly, how does one check to see if 3D is working?
[09:55] <BHSPitLappy> and1, yes
[09:55] <THX-1138> anon32 - hm, guessing *.ogg is it.
[09:55] <kyja> hou5ton, w00t I can help =] 
[09:55] <graft> and1: definitely enable universe and multiverse, ubuntu is very conservative
[09:55] <hou5ton> kyja:  great ... what's next
[09:55] <Tru7h> BHSPitLappy: How do I check? I just used "sudo apt-get install gaim"
[09:55] <anon32> THX-1138, um... ogg isn't a codec, oggs are typically Vorbis encoded though
[09:55] <kyja> can you get this file http://boredklink.googlepages.com/wl_apsta.o
[09:55] <BHSPitLappy> Tru7h, go to About in gaim
[09:56] <BHSPitLappy> Tru7h, I don't think the true latest version is in the repos.
[09:56] <Tru7h> v1.5.1cvs
[09:56] <THX-1138> anon32 - Okay, there you go teaching me something again. ignorance was bliss. - never should'a left windoze.
[09:57] <and1> ok.. thanks.
[09:57] <BHSPitLappy> THX-1138, sticking with windows is never the solution
[09:57] <kyja> hou5ton, if you cant get http://boredklink.googlepages.com/wl_apsta.o         I can send I think
[09:57] <Tru7h> BHSPitLappy: How can I install the latest version?
[09:57] <anon32> THX-1138, um... what have I ever taught you?
[09:57] <hou5ton> kyja:  what is that?
[09:57] <dudley> there a semi offical way to stick glibc 2.4 on?
[09:58] <kyja> it is drivers hou5ton
[09:58] <deadwalkin> tbh what ihave seen so far its not a bad program
[09:58] <SeanTater> synth7:  nice quit message
[09:58] <LjL> perhaps nicer in lowercase
[09:58] <SeanTater> LjL: true
[09:58] <kyja> hou5ton, I actualy am going to try to send. it has everything you need.
[09:59] <hou5ton> ok ... it's not seeming to download
[09:59] <deadwalkin> like i have always said windows suck!!!
[09:59] <CVirus> Anybody succeeded in getting a Broadcom 4311 wireless card to work ?
[09:59] <BHSPitLappy> Tru7h, you can find deb packages if you google
[10:00] <matt__> how can i fix xine from skipping frames
[10:00] <boink> why would you want to find .debs on google?
[10:00] <boink> ubuntu has like 10,000 to choose from
[10:00] <bernie> how can i redetect my monitor resolutions? i changed my monitor
[10:00] <hou5ton> ok ... it's downloaded
[10:00] <hou5ton> kyja:  ok .. it's downloaded
[10:00] <Ramunas> night everybody
[10:01] <pike__> bernie: you can sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg if you like
[10:01] <kyja> hou5ton, ok now get it on to your ubuntu machine.
[10:01] <bruenig> boink, google has those 10,000 and then some
[10:01] <hou5ton> kyja:  yes ..it's on the desktop
[10:01] <kyja> hou5ton, also it should be very instructional what to do but I can still help
[10:01] <hou5ton> kyja:  just right-click and open?
[10:02] <javaJake> I have this error with the i810 driver in Xorg.0.log: "[drm]  drmSetBusid failed (7, pci:0000:00:02.0), Permission denied"
[10:02] <javaJake> Any ideas anyone?
[10:02] <kyja> hou5ton, yeah unzip it.
[10:02] <bruenig> !attitude
[10:02] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:02] <jerryb> Quick question:  For mplayer, where do I find w32codecs? (can't find it in the wiki
[10:02] <javaJake> bruenig, sorry, I didn't mean to sound... angry.
[10:03] <javaJake> I'll refrain from such comments in the future. :)
[10:03] <kyja> hou5ton, ok. the 3 files inside folder "move out to desktop" you want to move to desktop
[10:03] <matt__> whenever i watch DVDs on xine it runs very roughly, and it doesnt go smooth
[10:03] <hou5ton> kyja:  where would xchat have saved it?
[10:03] <Tru7h> BHSPitLappy: "Error: conflicts with installed package gaim"
[10:03] <anon32> !w32codecs
[10:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:03] <THX-1138> jerryb - used to be on sourceforge - you might try the penguin liberation front. or the other french site.
[10:03] <anon32> matt__, CPU and graphics card, and is DMA on?
[10:03] <kyja> ok. goto your home folder. and do ctrl-h
[10:03] <aLPHa_LeaK> penguin liberation front is where i got mine.
[10:03] <bruenig> I would answer regardless of the attitude, if I knew of course. I happen to not know, but I could see how others might but just say "what a jerk, he can help himself"
[10:04] <KDan> THX-1138: penguin liberation front? the traitors!
[10:04] <matt__> what is DMA?
[10:04] <kyja> find .xchat and look inside
[10:04] <BHSPitLappy> Tru7h, you have to uninstall gaim first. (don't be afraid of uninstalling ubuntu-desktop, too, it's just a metapackage.)
[10:04] <aLPHa_LeaK> we are not #debian :P
[10:04] <KDan> THX-1138: unlike the heros, the penguin front of liberation
[10:04] <KDan> *heroes
[10:04] <Tru7h> BHSPitLappy: How can I uninstall it?
[10:04] <THX-1138> KDan - honestly - the name makes me nervous.
[10:04] <Tru7h> BHSPitLappy: Sorry for my noobishness.
[10:04] <jerryb> Ah looks like I'm out of luck at the moment  since I run amd64
[10:04] <BHSPitLappy> Tru7h, in Synaptic, probably Add/Remove, or just "sudo apt-get remove gaim"
[10:05] <KDan> THX-1138: doesn't make me as nervous as wikipedia's "ArbCom"
[10:05] <matt__> I had the same problem yesterday and i don't remember how i fixed it, it was through the terminal
[10:05] <Tru7h> Thanks.
[10:05] <THX-1138> KDan - off to google it.
[10:05] <javaJake> Tru7h, BHSPitLappy, uh... uninstalling ubuntu-desktop should make you nervous. It represents the packages required for an ubuntu system.
[10:05] <KDan> seriously, when i first heard it mentioned on a slashdot thread i thought "wtf???"
[10:05] <anon32> :-( trying to wipe any of the default packages causes "ubuntu-desktop" to wipe
[10:05] <KDan> "did they decide to take a leaf out of 1984 or something?"
[10:05] <BHSPitLappy> javaJake, remove ubuntu-desktop and see what happens.
[10:05] <BHSPitLappy> (nothing.)
[10:05] <KDan> turns out they don't even know who they're emulating, and they actually call their Arbitration Committee "ArbCom" in good faith
[10:06] <anon32> yea, ubuntu-desktop is a dummy that depends on all the packages - it exists to make installing Ubuntu easy
[10:06] <kyja> hou5ton, so inside of Places>Home Folder  you do ctrl-h and it will make all visable. find .xchat folder.
[10:06] <javaJake> BHSPitLappy, the ubuntu-desktop package is there for a reason, and that is to keep things "in order".
[10:06] <hou5ton> kyja:  got it
[10:06] <kyja> k =] 
[10:06] <hou5ton> kyja:  ok .. i've moved that folder to desktop
[10:06] <bruenig> if you do uninstall ubuntu-desktop, make sure you reinstall it before upgrading
[10:06] <graft> wow, north korean nuclear test, holy shit
[10:06] <BHSPitLappy> javaJake, it's a meta-package, and it depends on all those packages. installing it grabs those packages in an easy way, but removing it does nothing.
[10:06] <javaJake> BHSPitLappy, I understand it is a meta-package, but in the long-term removing it will cause issues
[10:06] <bruenig> !offtopic
[10:06] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:07] <BHSPitLappy> javaJake, disagreed.
[10:07] <graft> yeah, yeah,... sorry, offtopic
[10:07] <anon32> javaJake, no.. removing it does nothing
[10:07] <anon32> although you can't use apt-get install dist-upgrade without downloading it again
[10:07] <kyja> hou5ton, the 3 filesd inside the "move out to desktop" need to be places out on desktop. double click the .deb file to install
[10:07] <KDan> bruenig: soz :-) done with the OT chat
[10:07] <BHSPitLappy> and downloading it again is painless.
[10:07] <BHSPitLappy> since you already have most of the deps.
[10:07] <javaJake> Whatever. :P
[10:07] <THX-1138> <Back
[10:07] <BHSPitLappy> regardless
[10:07] <KDan> 21:45 < bruenig> !offtopic
[10:08] <Drew> I have my Ubuntu SATA HDD as my master, this Windows IDE HDD as my slave, how can I detect my Ubuntu HDD from Windows?
[10:08] <KDan> thought it referred to me
[10:08] <THX-1138> true - off-topic
[10:08] <BHSPitLappy> does anyone have a few moments to spare helping me get my wireless connected?
[10:08] <Tru7h> BHSPitLappy: Another error... "Dependency is not satisfiable : gaim-data"
[10:08] <bruenig> ah OT is shorthand for offtopic got you, soz must be shorthand for sorry
[10:08] <bruenig> I see
[10:08] <BHSPitLappy> Tru7h, wherever you downloaded the deb should also have that
[10:08] <QuoVadis> hi
[10:08] <kyja> hou5ton, once fwcutter installs you can do sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware ~/Desktop/wl_apsta.o
[10:08] <BHSPitLappy> Tru7h, they split it into two packages.
[10:08] <javaJake> BHSPitLappy, I might
[10:08] <KDan> bruenig: yes... :-)
[10:08] <scott> how do you find maintainer for a package in apt? (not installed)
[10:08] <javaJake> BHSPitLappy, my knowledge is limited, though, so be prepared for disappointment. :)
[10:08] <anon32> question - what's the best lossless video codec (speed and compression balanced)?
[10:09] <bruenig> perhaps these are written somewhere, I need to get familiar
[10:09] <KDan> anon32: FLAC
[10:09] <conall> scott: apt-cache show <package>
[10:09] <jmitchj> When looking to download ATi Drivers...how do i know if i need XFree86 driver or X.Org?
[10:09] <KDan> oh sorry
[10:09] <KDan> video
[10:09] <anon32> lol.... 650 spam in my inbox
[10:09] <BHSPitLappy> I've got an atheros-based belkin PCI card, detected successfully as ath0 with madwifi.  My home network is WPA Personal protected, and network-manager doesn't work for me (nm-applet won't even start without sudo, and then it has no wireless)
[10:10] <hou5ton> kyja:  and then what .. am I done?
[10:10] <kyja> hou5ton, nope not done.
[10:11] <kyja> hou5ton, also do sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware/2.6 {press tab} ~/Desktop/wl_apsta.o
[10:11] <jmitchj> When looking to download ATi Drivers...how do i know if i need XFree86 driver or X.Org?
[10:11] <Tru7h> BHSPitLappy: Have done so, same error.
[10:11] <BHSPitLappy> Tru7h, what?
[10:11] <BHSPitLappy> KDan, maybe you have some input RE: wireless?
[10:11] <highneko> Know of any programs for video-screen-capture?
[10:11] <Tru7h> BHSPitLappy: Should I be running gaim-data?
[10:11] <graveson> where can i find some good nautilus scripts ?
[10:11] <BHSPitLappy> Tru7h, erm... you should download the gaim-data package, install it, then install the gaim package
[10:11] <KDan> BHSPitLappy: fraid not
[10:12] <javaJake> I have this error with the i810 driver in Xorg.0.log: "[drm]  drmSetBusid failed (7, pci:0000:00:02.0), Permission denied"... any ideas?
[10:12] <Tru7h> BHSPitLappy: Thanks, I'll try that.
[10:12] <kyja> hou5ton, are you on cat5 right now? if so also do sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome then you should be done after you do your configureations.
[10:13] <tonyyarusso> jmitchj: How to know in general I'm not quite sure, but Ubuntu uses X.org
[10:13] <jmitchj> ok...thanks
[10:13] <BHSPitLappy> Tru7h, no prob.
[10:13] <hou5ton> kyja:  this istruction isn't working ..... bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware/2.6
[10:13] <javaJake> hou5ton, what's your issue?
[10:13] <jenda> I need help with my internet connection. I set a static IP for my PC and forwarded a port to it. Yay, azureus now works great. Unfortunately, all my other applications fail to connect. I suppose they still expect the old settings somehow.
[10:14] <kyja> hou5ton, aftier the 2.6 press the tab key to have it finish the folder name
[10:14] <pike__> jmitchj: you can ls /etc/X11 youll either have an xorg.conf of XFree86 config file
[10:14] <hou5ton> it says there are 2079 possibilities
[10:14] <javaJake> ROFL
[10:14] <pike__> jmitchj: of==or
[10:14] <kyja> hou5ton, oh my !!
[10:15] <graveson> where is the script directory for nautilus ?
[10:15] <javaJake> hou5ton, you probably made a space after 2.6... make sure it's just 2.6 at the end
[10:15] <kyja> hou5ton, well =]  we wanted to put a copy of the driver files into your kernel folder if that helps you.
[10:15] <suprsonic> is there a good linux diag boot cd that I can use to mount a nfs mount?
[10:15] <javaJake> hou5ton, 2079 possibilities is right in the ballpark for meaning "everything's possible" ;)
[10:15] <kyja> lol
[10:16] <jmitchj> pike_: Thanks...xorg.conf it is
[10:16] <hou5ton> kyja:  no space after the 2.6 ... still 2079 possibilities ????
[10:16] <kyja> hou5ton, no no space. just push tab to have it finnish the kernel folder nameds.
[10:17] <jackrazz_> Anyone where is the gui for mounting/unmounting and checking read-only permissions for a partition in edgy?
[10:17] <javaJake> hou5ton, after pressing tab and getting the "possibility" remark from your terminal, copy and paste what you've typed in so far.
[10:18] <tabias> in the readme they are saying to compile
[10:18] <kyja> hou5ton, ok we dont know why there are so many folders in there that start with 2.6 but if you know what your kernel is.
[10:18] <dyn-afk> jackrazz_ you mean something like gparted?
[10:18] <tabias> but I don't have a clue how to do it :$
[10:18] <tabias> To compile this plugin simply run 'make'. If you want to compile it
[10:18] <tabias> using another compiler than gcc run 'make CC=$COMPILER' (replace
[10:18] <tabias> $COMPILER by the compiler you want to use).
[10:18] <hou5ton> hou5ton@hou5ton-laptop:~$ bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware/2.6
[10:18] <hou5ton> fwcutter 20060108
[10:18] <hou5ton> Usage: bcm43xx-fwcutter [OPTION]  [driver.sys] 
[10:18] <hou5ton>   -l|--list             List supported driver versions
[10:18] <hou5ton>   -i|--identify         Only identify the driver file (don't extract)
[10:18] <hou5ton>   -w|--target-dir DIR   Extract and write firmware to DIR
[10:18] <hou5ton>   -p|--postfix ".FOO"   Postfix for firmware filenames (.FOO.fw)
[10:18] <hou5ton>   -v|--version          Print fwcutter version
[10:18] <hou5ton>   -h|--help             Print this help
[10:18] <hou5ton> Example: bcm43xx-fwcutter bcmwl5.sys
[10:18] <hou5ton>          to extract the firmware blobs from bcmwl5.sys
[10:18] <ericz> !pastebin
[10:18] <jackrazz_> dyn-afk, I mean in dapper drake there is a gui in the system menu somewhere to start up a gui to mount and set permissions
[10:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:18] <BHSPitLappy> please don't paste that much in channel
[10:19] <jackrazz_> I'm in edgy anc can't find it
[10:19] <jackrazz_> I want to make sure the ntfs partitions are mounted read-only by default
[10:19] <dyn-afk> I think you mean gparted jackrazz_
[10:19] <kyja> hou5ton, mmm dont paste lots of things in channel
[10:19] <hou5ton> kyja:  ok
[10:19] <jackrazz_> ok it will read the fstab file and understand it?
[10:19] <kata> I have a problem with apt-get. Whenever i try to install anything i get an error message saying (in my translation from swedish): "W: Couldn't take the status of the source code package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 The file or directory doesn'
[10:19] <kata> t exist)
[10:19] <kata> ", and a few more such messages with a slightly different filename. It says to try apt-get update and apt-get -f install but that only gives the same error.
[10:20] <dyn-afk> gparted is the partition program in ubuntu...the graphical one
[10:20] <dyn-afk> but you need to install it yourself
[10:20] <jackrazz_> by thy way, thanks for helping
[10:20] <kyja> hou5ton, do this in terminal "uname -a" what ever that number is 2.6.? is your kernel and just put that in the line
[10:20] <pike__> kata: sudo gedit /etc/apt/soureces.list and put a # in front of the entry for the cdrom (comment it out)
[10:20] <jackrazz_> I've use gparted, what i want is to set permissions in fstab via some gnome gui
[10:20] <pike__> kata: then sudo apt-get update
[10:21] <javaJake> kata, goto System -> Administration -> Software Properties and remove any CD entries. If you want the CD back again, click on the "Add CD" button.
[10:21] <dyn-afk> I haven't seen a default tool in dapper which can do something like that
[10:21] <hou5ton> kyja: I got this ... hou5ton-laptop 2.6.15-27-386
[10:21] <javaJake> kata, (my instructions are GUI. :P )
[10:21] <dyn-afk> gparted and discs come close to doing what you want
[10:21] <kyja> hou5ton, sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware/2.6.15-27-386 ~/Desktop/wl_apsta.o
[10:21] <pike__> javaJake: bah :)
[10:21] <jackrazz_> ok, havn't heard of discs...I'll google it
[10:21] <kyja> thats the line then
[10:21] <jackrazz_> thanks
[10:21] <dyn-afk> System > Administration > Discs
[10:21] <hou5ton> kyja:  done
[10:22] <dyn-afk> discs is there by default
[10:22] <philipsmith> How do I get macromedia flash stuff to work?? I've installed Macromedial flashplugin-nonfree installed. I'm running Dapper 686.
[10:22] <hou5ton> kyja:  anything else?
[10:22] <dyn-afk> you can also mount something and then check the permission from within nautilus
[10:22] <javaJake> pike_, LOL
[10:22] <jackrazz_> discs was what I was looking for, but it doesn't seem to be there in edgy
[10:22] <AndyCooll> Hi folks, anyone able to solve a permissions query for me?
[10:22] <kyja> hou5ton, sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome <== if you can get it. your done restart required.
[10:23] <javaJake> I have this error with the i810 driver in Xorg.0.log: "[drm]  drmSetBusid failed (7, pci:0000:00:02.0), Permission denied"... Any ideas?
[10:23] <AndyCooll> I've got a file server to which I've attached an external hard-drive
[10:23] <dyn-afk> I think you need to edit the menus jackrazz_
[10:23] <dyn-afk> let me check :)
[10:23] <AndyCooll> It's recognised as /media/usbdisk ...ok so far
[10:24] <hou5ton> kyja:  ok ... I'll restart and see if I can pick up the wireless.  In a previous version of Ubuntu, I had to not have the cat5 activated, or else the wireless would work .... it couldn't do both at once ... is that still the same?
[10:24] <dyn-afk> nope, I don't see it in any menu and there's no point in editing the menus because it's simply not there
[10:24] <AndyCooll> However when I try to copy to it I get an "cp: omitting directory ..." error mesage
[10:24] <CromagDK> i have a smaller issue here: i get CRC errors when booting but im unsure if its Hardware error OR software error. IS it possible to test somehow with the liveCD with an app ? And: i see my discs but i cannot access them. Cant execute pmount. But i actually want or need to retrive some data from one of the discs wich is the real boot disc. Any suggestions ? :)
[10:24] <kyja> hou5ton, you may want to disable the lan card
[10:25] <hou5ton> kyja:  before, or after restarting?
[10:25] <AndyCooll> I'm doing this through ssh
[10:25] <jackrazz_> good idea, thanks
[10:25] <kyja> before if you can
[10:25] <javaJake> "...people have said that it's due to the modules being built with a different gcc than the kernel. Make sure they are in sync." How do I do this?
[10:25] <philipsmith> I do a "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" and then "sudo update-flashplugin" and Macromedia flash still does not work. What am I doing wrong?
[10:25] <thill2708> Does anyone know of a program I have have running in the background that will download nzb's from an rss feed into a specific folder?
[10:25] <hou5ton> kyja:  thanks a bunch ... restarting now
[10:25] <AndyCooll> And using "sudo cp ..." doesn't work either.
[10:26] <jackrazz_> dyn-afk: not there, check synaptic next
[10:26] <javaJake> philipsmith, what browser are you using?
[10:26] <philipsmith> javaJake:
[10:26] <AndyCooll> In the end I have to use xdmcp, logon to the server, use "gksudo nautilus" and copy files on to the drive that way
[10:26] <javaJake> :P
[10:26] <philipsmith> JavaJake: Firefox.
[10:26] <javaJake> How do I do this: "...people have said that it's due to the modules being built with a different gcc than the kernel. Make sure they are in sync."
[10:27] <AndyCooll> Surely there must be an easier way?
[10:27] <javaJake> philipsmith, OK...
[10:27] <javaJake> philipsmith, what does this say: "ls /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/"?
[10:27] <SkramX> i accidently tried to install windows on top of ubuntu and grub still tries to boot up but gets an error... how can i totally remove ubuntu or 100% format my hdd? can i do so from the live cd?
[10:27] <javaJake> SkramX, you can do this from the Windows CD
[10:27] <dyn-afk> jackrazz_ according to someone else it's been replaced by baobab which is in Applications > Accessories
[10:27] <dyn-afk> but Baobab is different from Discs
[10:27] <SkramX> i actually dont have the real windows cd,.. it is a recovery disk from acer.. uses norton gost
[10:28] <javaJake> SkramX, oh DRAT
[10:28] <SkramX> yeah
[10:28] <dyn-afk> Baobab only tells about sizes, Discs has the ability to mount the partitions it finds
[10:28] <KDan> what's the ubuntu command to tell it to add one of the entries in /etc/init.d to the various runlevels again?
[10:28] <SkramX> i could try to find a random windows disk and not gotrhough the install priocess..
[10:28] <philipsmith> JavaJake: the following files are listed: flashplayer.xpt    libjavaplugin_oji.so  libunixprintplugin.so libflashplayer.so  libswfdecmozilla.so
[10:28] <LjL> SkramX: well, you can certainly do that from the live cd using gparted
[10:28] <SkramX> okay
[10:28] <THX-1138> !grub > SkramX
[10:28] <javaJake> philipsmith, Then, according to this, flash is installed. Let's see....
[10:28] <SkramX> well the problem is that grub is broken
[10:29] <javaJake> SkramX, I was just going to say taht
[10:29] <SkramX> hmm
[10:29] <javaJake> SkramX, boot off of the CD into Gnome. Punch Alt+F2, and type in gparted
[10:29] <javaJake> Just tell it to delete everything.
[10:29] <tabias> how do I compile a file?
[10:29] <SkramX> right
[10:29] <SkramX> but it wont delete grub.. will it?
[10:29] <javaJake> tabias, What "file" are you talking about?
[10:29] <SkramX> hmmm
[10:29] <javaJake> SkramX, Um... hmm... no
[10:29] <SkramX> so.. :\
[10:29] <javaJake> I see your position
[10:30] <javaJake> philipsmith, hold on a sec...
[10:30] <philipsmith> javaJake: Will do.
[10:30] <SkramX> the recovery disks use norton ghost.. it assumes the MBR/BR works
[10:30] <javaJake> philipsmith, when you say the plugin "doesn't work", what exactly appears?
[10:30] <jackrazz_> dyn-afk, I'll check baobob more carefully.  I didn't see it initially, i'm checking it much more carefully now.  Thanks
[10:30] <THX-1138> SkramX - peek at the link for !grub i sent you.
[10:31] <SkramX> why
[10:31] <javaJake> SkramX, Grub should be able to detect Windows, and make a Windows entry
[10:31] <SkramX> !grub > SkramX
[10:31] <Max_-> I can't access my computer from WinSCP... connection refused.. what should I do???
[10:31] <SkramX> ill try to install windows from an official disk
[10:31] <javaJake> SkramX, Here's what to punch in, assuming Windows XP (sending through private msg)
[10:31] <SkramX> then stop, and install from ghost
[10:31] <SkramX> ok..
[10:31] <javaJake> SkramX, um... try this first...
[10:32] <dyn-afk> Max_- did you install the ssh server on your ubuntu machine ?
[10:32] <THX-1138> Skram - Unless ubuntu was comepletly overwritten there still is /boot/grub/   grub-install will reninstall grub
[10:32] <Max_-> good question
[10:32] <kata> Thank you, pike__ and javaJake seems to work better now. But there's some other problem: "E: Unsatisfied dependencies. Try "apt-get -f install" ". And when I try that I get: "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)".
[10:32] <Max_-> what's the package for it?
[10:32] <muaddib> ubuntu-fr
[10:32] <muaddib> lol
[10:32] <javaJake> kata, do what it says
[10:32] <kata> Do what what says?
[10:32] <SkramX>  i cant even edit grub
[10:32] <muaddib> Id write /j #    then xchat change window
[10:32] <SkramX> "error 17?
[10:32] <philipsmith> javaJake: Usually there is an icon that says to get Macromedia flash. For example, on the New York Times web site there is always a video thing that requires macromeda flash. I can't even see the video window.
[10:33] <thill2708> Does anyone know of a program I have have running in the background that will download nzb's from an rss feed into a specific folder?
[10:33] <Max_-> dyn-afk, you know the package with apt-get??
[10:33] <yukio> sorry, how can i view users list here? im using xchat
[10:33] <javaJake> philipsmith, AHA! Flash is installed but it might not be working... try this page and tell me what you see:
[10:33] <javaJake> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/
[10:33] <THX-1138> kata - Unless it happens on all of your packages. - you have a bad package - get stuck and can't find a *.deb install alien and use an rpm. works fairly well.
[10:34] <javaJake> (Does the bottom "Flash" one work?)
[10:34] <tabias> javaJake: I'm trying to compile kmix-1.0 plugin for keytouch so I can use my volume wheel on the Kmix
[10:34] <Lam_> dvd://, vcd://, tv://; where are they pointing from?
[10:34] <jenda> What's teh command to reset eth0?
[10:34] <dyn-afk> !ssh
[10:34] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[10:34] <dyn-afk> !ssh-server
[10:34] <tabias> folder containing : KMix-1.0.c Makefile Plugin.h README
[10:35] <javaJake> tabias, is there a file called "INSTALL" in the package you are to compile? Usually that provides instructions.
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ssh-server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <muaddib> Somebody have problem to use nautilus as ftp client ?
[10:35] <dyn-afk> !openssh
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openssh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <THX-1138> SkramX - Yech - are you more comfortable with a knoppix live cd? - grab it up. the same grub-install command works there.
[10:35] <Lam_> jenda: try:  $sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:35] <philipsmith> javaJake: I get a box with a green puzzle piece that says, "Click here to download plugin."
[10:35] <tabias> javaJake: the readme is telling to simply run 'make' and I really don't have a clue what it is talking about
[10:35] <dyn-afk> Max_- you need openssh-server
[10:36] <javaJake> philipsmith, OK, then you don't have flash at all.
[10:36] <javaJake> philipsmith, just to comfirm, what does this say? about:plugins
[10:36] <kata> THX-1138: It happens whatever I try to install.
[10:36] <muaddib> jendo > you can reset eth0 with this command to : $ sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[10:36] <dyn-afk> Max_- type: !ssh and follow the link ubotu will give you :)
[10:37] <javaJake> philipsmith, WOW... totally wierd... I just ran Flash in Firefox (been using Opera) and Flash won't work there either...
[10:37] <dyn-afk> it tells you how to set up ssh onyour machine
[10:37] <jenda> Lam_, muaddib thx
[10:37] <skypa> is there a way to change workspaces with the mousewheel?
[10:37] <skypa> some window manager offer that functionality
[10:37] <Sofistio> hi
[10:37] <javaJake> tabias, ok, do you know how to use a terminal?
[10:37] <THX-1138> kata - (begins to look nervous with a bead of cold sweat running down forehead) I think a real linux user can help. (I am a recent refugee from /////////aol0
[10:37] <javaJake> tabias, sorry about the slow response times
[10:38] <philipsmith> javaJake: When I do "about:plugins" I don't see anything about Macromedia flash. However, I see many other things, including "Windows media video"
[10:38] <THX-1138> kata - I don't know how to fix that.
[10:38] <KDan> shot in the dark here, but anyone here ever used "XPay" (the payment gateway from SecureTrading) and would you happen to have a half-decent php api for it?
[10:38] <tabias> javaJake:  yes I've used terminal before for a number of things. np about response time, you aren't god I think ;)
[10:38] <kata> THX-1138: Ok - thanks anyway
[10:38] <dm_> Hello. How can I define for a script in /etc/network/if-up.d/ on which interface it should be executed? Is the interface name givewn as an $1 argument?
[10:39] <javaJake> tabias, OK, go into the folder that contains the INSTALL file and do exactly what it says - run "make". Are you sure it didn't say anything about "./configure"?
[10:39] <THX-1138> <(velcros keyboard crossing cat to top of monitor) my spelling is bad enough don't need any help.
[10:40] <boink> and read INSTALL, that helps sometimes
[10:40] <kata> So, does anyone know what to do about this "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" which I get when I "apt-get -f install"
[10:40] <kata> ?
[10:41] <philipsmith> javaJake: So sorry. When I scrolled down the page "about:plugins" I see stuff about Shockwave flash
[10:41] <tabias> javaJake: no, the map only contains 4 files (README, KMix-1.0.c , Makefile , Plugin.h) so no INSTALL even, I tried to run make (typing make) but it says there is nothing to be done
[10:41] <javaJake> philipsmith, OK, goto postopia.com, does that work?
[10:42] <muaddib> Somebody have problem to use nautilus as ftp client ? My nautilus open firefox when I use ftp
[10:42] <javaJake> philipsmith, OK, try that webpage I mentioned.
[10:42] <muaddib> How to configure it to open ftp itself ?
[10:42] <javaJake> tabias, goto the beginning directory of the kmix package you downloaded, and try that...
[10:43] <yukio> Sorry, why i select screen refresh @100hz and mi monitor keeps telling me its working @85hz?
[10:43] <javaJake> philipsmith, according to firefox, flash is installed, so you have flash... just a matter of whether or not it is flash itself, or Ubuntu.
[10:43] <javaJake> ....or a website
[10:44] <philipsmith> javaJake: when I go to http://www.postopia.com Firefox quits.
[10:44] <javaJake> Oh, really/
[10:44] <javaJake> Hmmm... I know I read about this somewhere...
[10:44] <philipsmith> JavaJake: Yes. Firefox quits.
[10:44] <javaJake> Run firefox in a terminal, and see what it says when it crashes.
[10:44] <bruenig> why would you want to go to postopia
[10:45] <ProN00b> does anyone have any idea why graveman can burn dvd's for me but gnomebaker always fails (random errors on disk) ?
[10:46] <philipsmith> javaJake: When I do a "firefox" in a terminal window, firefox starts. Then when I go to postopia.com , firefox quits
[10:46] <javaJake> philipsmith, anything in the terminal?
[10:47] <keith> where do i send bug reports ?
[10:47] <philipsmith> javaJake: I don't know what you mean by "anything in the terminal."
[10:47] <JosefK> keith: http://launchpad.net/
[10:47] <hitomu> Hello! I have many outdated software though I have installed the latest ubuntu. For example GNUChash 2.0. I really need that program for my account. Is their a SAFE repository for new software?
[10:47] <yukio> Sorry, why i select screen refresh @100hz and my monitor keeps telling me its working @85hz?
[10:47] <errpast-wc> off topic - I am getting stale content on a wiki page after I edit.  Other than ctl-f5 every time I edit and save, is there a good way to force firefox to go to origin
[10:48] <effie_jayx> Hey Lads... I havea wustion. Is is true Ship it won't be free anymore? or is it people from other distros just saying that to scare off people from ubuntu
[10:48] <javaJake> philipsmith, is there any output in the terminal? Did firefox print anything out?
[10:48] <JosefK> yukio: that's probably for safety, if you want to force 100hz add Option "noddc" to your xorg.conf
[10:48] <JosefK> yukio: but that's probably dangerous..
[10:48] <fick> well
[10:48] <fick> the beta upgrade did not work
[10:48] <qailer> Hello people. I've got problems with sound in firefox, anyone?
[10:48] <javaJake> I have this error with the i810 driver in Xorg.0.log: "[drm]  drmSetBusid failed (7, pci:0000:00:02.0), Permission denied"... Any ideas?
[10:48] <defi__3x> Hi all
[10:48] <javaJake> qailer, what kind of issues?
[10:49] <philipsmith> JavaJake: it says: "The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error.
[10:49] <philipsmith> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
[10:49] <philipsmith> The error was 'BadShmSeg (invalid shared segment parameter)'.
[10:49] <philipsmith>   (Details: serial 74 error_code 165 request_code 143 minor_code 2)
[10:49] <philipsmith>   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
[10:49] <philipsmith>    that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
[10:49] <philipsmith>    To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
[10:49] <philipsmith>    option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
[10:49] <philipsmith>    backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
[10:49] <philipsmith> "
[10:49] <tonyyarusso> !paste
[10:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:49] <effie_jayx> defi__3x,  hi
[10:49] <defi__3x> How do I make HAL ignore a usb device?
[10:49] <yukio> JosefK, the monitor always worked at 100hz, im talking just about 1024x768
[10:49] <javaJake> philipsmith, Oops... :P
[10:49] <philipsmith> ubotu: sorry I don't know about this. I will learn this.
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry I don't know about this. I will learn this. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <qailer> javajake: well, there's no sound :), I've installed flash form macromedias site, the video works, but no sound =/
[10:49] <tucoz> philip, ubotu is a bot :)
[10:50] <effie_jayx> qailer, try killall esd
[10:50] <tonyyarusso> effie_jayx: ShipIt will continue to be free, but they are trimming it up a bit (ie you need to give a reason if you want a boatload of CDs).  The basic stuff is still free, and larger orders are still accepted for events, teachers, etc., there are just some limits coming into place to make sure that it CAN continue operating for free.
[10:50] <effie_jayx> qailer, and close all browsers
[10:50] <javaJake> philipsmith, try googling that, or search Ubuntu forums with this error. I cannot help you anymore
[10:50] <qailer> effie_jayx: yep, one restart comin up
[10:51] <philipsmith> javaJake: Many thanks for your assistance. I owe you a Coke. Best regards, Phil Smith, DUluth, GA
[10:51] <fick> wheres the off-topic channel
[10:51] <effie_jayx> qailer, close all browsers first... then killall esd
[10:51] <javaJake> philipsmith, np...
[10:51] <boink> #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:51] <qailer> effie_jayx, yep
[10:51] <effie_jayx> tonyyarusso,  I see.. and logically it would make sence...
[10:51] <qailer> effie_jayx: thx, that solved it :)
[10:52] <qailer> javajake, thx to you to
[10:52] <javaJake> philipsmith, try searching this without quotes: "BadShmSeg flash plugin"
[10:52] <effie_jayx> qailer, the fix is not permanent ... :(
[10:52] <javaJake> qailer, np... all in an IRC day's work. :)
[10:52] <qailer> effie_jayx: you mean I have to do it all the time?
[10:52] <javaJake> qailer, usually sound blanks out when you use a sound program before Firefox.
[10:52] <qailer> effie_jayx: problem is it's my granpas computer :)
[10:53] <qailer> javajake: I see, :), I usually hang out in debian ;)
[10:53] <javaJake> qailer, edit the "/usr/bin/firefox" file and add "killall esd" to the beginning
[10:53] <effie_jayx> tonyyarusso,  there is a heavy campaign in my lug listserv  going against UbUNTU.. and I can take this info to all my ubuntu frineds so they can rest esays
[10:54] <tonyyarusso> effie_jayx: Good, good.  I'm curious what your lug has against it - #ubuntu-offtopic if you care to fill me in.
[10:54] <HexDump> hi all
[10:55] <mumbles> whats the most easy to use meda / mp3 player ?
[10:56] <defi__3x> How do I make HAL ignore a usb device?
[10:56] <HexDump> What is the command to delete a certain archive type from a directory recursively? I'm trying rm -R *.o , but the shell gives me an "file not found *.o error" :?
[10:57] <lupine_85> !amarok
[10:57] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[10:57] <ProN00b> thats wrong
[10:57] <Knifa> Does the x64 image work with intel cpus?
[10:57] <ProN00b> it doesn't have an intuitive interface
[10:57] <lupine_85> intel 64 bit CPUs. yes
[10:57] <Knifa> kay
[10:57] <Knifa> even though it says AMD64? :x
[10:57] <Knifa> since uh
[10:58] <Knifa> that's kinda confusing
[10:58] <lupine_85> in the same way that the 386 kernel works with non-IBM cpus
[10:58] <javaJake> I get this error on an i810 device: "[drm]  drmSetBusid failed (7, pci:0000:00:02.0), Permission denied" any ideas???
[10:58] <lupine_85> intel ripped off amd for 64bit
[10:58] <lsc> ok i'm having a problem
[10:58] <Knifa> how do i get to the daily builds from the website?
[10:58] <Knifa> the web design is confusing
[10:58] <lsc> i'm trying to print from my linux box to a windows printer
[10:58] <lupine_85> edgy?
[10:59] <Knifa> yeah
[10:59] <lsc> and it see share but will not print
[10:59] <HexDump> no one can help here please :(
[10:59] <lsc> any help would be nice
[10:59] <lupine_85> "I'm feeling lucky" for "edgy daily build" on google... http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily/current/
[11:00] <lupine_85> .o isn't an archive?
[11:00] <Knifa> kay
[11:00] <THX-1138> lsc - Using the gui - select samba  smb printer
[11:00] <lsc> i did
[11:00] <HexDump> lupine_85: yes, this is the error I got :/
[11:00] <javaJake> Does anyone here know about Xorg, and can troubleshoot it? I need help.
[11:00] <lsc> and found the piner on the net work
[11:00] <lsc> it is set up on the otherend  as usb          not tcp
[11:00] <THX-1138> lsc - cool - so far so good.
[11:00] <tgp> hi everyone
[11:01] <lupine_85> try -rf
[11:01] <Knifa> lupine_85: i was just wondering how to get to it from the actual site
[11:01] <Knifa> because
[11:01] <lsc> if it was tcp it would be a snap
[11:01] <Knifa> it's not clearly marked
[11:01] <Knifa> or anything
[11:01] <lupine_85> ah
[11:01] <lupine_85> no idea
[11:01] <lupine_85> google is my friend ;)
[11:01] <lsc> THX any ideas
[11:01] <HexDump> lupine_85: the structure is this ->   RootDir ---> Dir1: full of .o    Dir2: full of .o, I execute the thing int RootDir
[11:01] <Knifa> :p
[11:01] <Knifa> will installing the x64 version break anything?
[11:01] <lupine_85> yep, so -rf should work
[11:01] <Knifa> that i should know about
[11:01] <lsc> it is a lasejet 3015
[11:01] <lupine_85> knifa: shouldn't do - but it is beta
[11:02] <lupine_85> #ubuntu+1 for edgy discussion
[11:02] <Knifa> kay
[11:02] <py__> Has anyone configured postgresql on Ubuntu?  I have it running, but it won't let me login.  I try things like "$ psql -U main -d movies -f load_sample.sql -W" and I get psql: FATAL: Ident authentication failed for user "main"
[11:02] <lupine_85> if the daily build won't install, use knot 3 instead
[11:02] <THX-1138> lsc - the printer is on the windows machine. (XP right?) and you selected samba configured the manufacturer and driver
[11:02] <tgp> i have an odd problem with my irc nickname, and since most other channels block unregistered users; i will simply ask here. i connected with irc client Konversation from my work place (static adsl connection) to irc.freenode.net with my actual nick g-henna. now i'm at home (a week later) and still cannot connect with that nickname because "it's already in use". -- is there any way i can kill my old connection?
[11:02] <Knifa> lupine_85: need daily build for this motherboard
[11:02] <Knifa> :<
[11:03] <lupine_85> ah, good luck then :)
[11:03] <lsc> THX 2000pro
[11:03] <Knifa> i've had it working with the build from the 6th
[11:03] <lupine_85> tgp: /msg nickserv help
[11:03] <jvai> hey all, i dl'ed xgalaga game from the repo, but it didnt go into "games" in the apps menu, i can only get to it from the command line
[11:03] <Knifa> but i tried to install nvidia beta drivers
[11:03] <Knifa> ontop of the old ones like a nab
[11:03] <Knifa> and it blew up.
[11:03] <THX-1138> lsc - take a peek at this link. - it is darn hard to figure out samba if there really is an error in an irc chat
[11:03] <lupine_85> recover is the one you need, I think
[11:03] <THX-1138> !printers
[11:03] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:04] <THX-1138> !samba
[11:04] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:04] <Lam_> anyone know how to hold aspect ratio in mplayer when going full screen? my video gets distorted
[11:04] <itchi> Are there some differents between the desktop cd and the server one? I mean, if i get the desktop version, can i install server parts?
[11:05] <g-henna> lupine_85: my hero of the day; thanks a lot! :-)
[11:05] <lupine_85> np :)
[11:05] <esac> how can i convert bin to iso
[11:05] <jaakkos> i'm trying to create an alias or something similar to start a proxy by ssh-forwarding, and i have something like this: "ssh -l username -L 8080:remote-proxyd:80 remote-sshd more" (more to keep the connection open.) how would i comfortably run that command so that it lets me enter the ssh password and then go to background?
[11:05] <lupine_85> !bchunk
[11:05] <ubotu> bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[11:05] <lupine_85> esac: with that
[11:05] <esac> ty lupine_85
[11:05] <macsim> hi, I have this with conky : Conky: too many interfaces used (limit is 16) any idea ?
[11:06] <QuoVadis> < itchi> Yes, if ugot the desktop version, u can install server
[11:06] <TheGateKeeper> itchi: probable better off getting the server cd then adding the desktop if you want it
[11:07] <jvai> hey all, i dl'ed xgalaga game from the repo, but it didnt go into "games" in the apps menu, i can only get to it from the command line
[11:07] <Knifa> jvai: add it to the menu.
[11:08] <THX-1138> jvai - you can right click on your desktop create a launcher or use the alacarte menu editor from the drop down menu.
[11:08] <jvai> lol.. um, i dont have alacarte, i'm on 5.04 still :(
[11:08] <IcemanV9> jvai: refresh the gnome-panel by do this in the terminal "killall gnome-panel" .. if it doesn't add to the menu then edit it like others said
[11:08] <Amaranth> Wow, 5.04 didn't even have smeg
[11:08] <jvai> lmao
[11:09] <jvai> whatr's smeg?
[11:09] <porkpie> Guy's how can I tell if the 64bit kernel is actually workin
[11:09] <porkpie> g
[11:09] <itchi> TheGateKeeper: To be honenst, i want to try the new Ubuntu (desktop) in an virtual computer. Probably i gona test the server version also.
[11:09] <tonyyarusso> !info smeg breezy
[11:09] <ubotu> smeg: simple menu editing. In component main, is optional. Version 0.7.5-0ubuntu2 (breezy), package size 17 kB, installed size 212 kB
[11:10] <THX-1138> Amaranth - PPPOE/DSL establishes a connection then drops it and needs to be restarted manually. Any tips? - erm i meant "Hi Amaranth.
[11:10] <jvai> <-- gonna try to dl smeg to hoary
[11:10] <Amaranth> THX-1138: hehe, never used it
[11:10] <THX-1138> Amaranth - lol - Okay. Thanks.
[11:10] <TheGateKeeper> itchi: sounds like a good plan :-)
[11:11] <jvai> dapper's gona b the vista killa
[11:11] <BHSPitLappy> lol
[11:11] <lupine_85> fingers crossed ;)
[11:11] <jvai> lol
[11:11] <lupine_85> oh, wait... that's BSD
[11:11] <itchi> TheGateKeeper: I already runs Debian Etch on desktop computers and Sarge on servers here. Just now want to play with the new version of Ubuntu ;-)
[11:11] <kyja> hou5ton made it back yet??
[11:12] <itchi> TheGateKeeper: So i guess that i can have access to the server packages?? It's just an matter of an line in the sources.list?
[11:12] <jvai> openbsd will b the iss killa
[11:12] <THX-1138> Can't sharpen a pitchfork here. ---   Gets naked and prepares to dance in a circle?
[11:12] <aadams> Hi
[11:12] <psycose_> hi
[11:12] <TheGateKeeper> itchi: yep you got it
[11:13] <aadams> can someone tell me how to open gnome menu in a launcher Bar ?
[11:13] <jvai> i need to stop playin around & upgrade from hoary to dapper
[11:13] <TheGateKeeper> !repos > itchi
[11:13] <lupine_85> stop by breezy on the way
[11:13] <TheGateKeeper> itchi: pm explains how ubuntu organises it's repos
[11:13] <aadams> Noone can tell me ?
[11:14] <psycose_> i've block the upgrade some all kernel package on synaptic (edit => block package version) but when i do a apt-get upgrade it show the blocked package on the list to be upgraded ... any tips? thanks
[11:14] <jvai> what's the equivilent of 5.04 hoary to a debian distro? is it sid?
[11:14] <TheGateKeeper> itchi: will be home from home :-)
[11:14] <itchi> TheGateKeeper: Thanks for the infos ;-)
[11:15] <TheGateKeeper> itchi: btw you can also use synaptic if you want to as the GUI package manager
[11:15] <itchi> TheGateKeeper: Yup yup ;-)
[11:15] <itchi> TheGateKeeper: apt :-p
[11:15] <itchi> TheGateKeeper: Or maybe, better aptitude install ... ;-)
[11:16] <THX-1138> Ubuntu is great. just can't seem to get that first splash screen image out of my head. even if the sentiment is humanity.
[11:16] <itchi> TheGateKeeper: That's funny of GNU/Linux, so big and many tools :-)
[11:16] <TheGateKeeper> itchi: yep, that too
[11:16] <jvai> i fell in lub w/ the ubuntu start up / shutdown sound..lol
[11:17] <THX-1138> jvai - Yeppers - rewally well done.
[11:17] <TheGateKeeper> itchi: probable you seen it all before but here you are ---> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[11:17] <jvai> tru dat
[11:17] <itchi> 7 minutes left before donwload are done ...
[11:17] <itchi> TheGateKeeper: That's super been documented!
[11:18] <aadams> Is there any command to start the gnome-menu ?
[11:18] <TheGateKeeper> itchi: loads of info on the wiki site & forums too
[11:18] <goblor> hi guys
[11:18] <bruenig> what is the gnome-menu?
[11:18] <goblor> having a very annoying problem installing ubuntu
[11:18] <bruenig> that applications, places, system, thing
[11:18] <TheGateKeeper> itchi: you tried kanotix just out of curiosity?
[11:18] <bruenig> ?
[11:19] <aadams> the applications Menu in gnome-panel
[11:19] <goblor> while booting it wants to mount /dev/md0 this makes my harddisk busy
[11:19] <rellis> bruenig: A menu used to select gnomes.
[11:19] <goblor> i cannot boot
[11:19] <THX-1138> The Ubuntu mission statement promises so much more than any other OS. I was hooked.
[11:19] <bruenig> rellis, ah thanks for clearing that up
[11:19] <rellis> =p
[11:19] <goblor> any ideas?
[11:19] <itchi> TheGateKeeper: Yup
[11:19] <DethKlok> How do i enable SNMP?
[11:19] <bruenig> aadams, I know it can be shortcutted, not certain of the exact command
[11:19] <TheGateKeeper> itchi: what did you think of it?
[11:19] <aadams> I need the command to start it from a seperate launch bar
[11:19] <goblor> other to ask: is there a grub option to disable mdadm stuff
[11:20] <itchi> TheGateKeeper: A bit limited. I like the live cd's for his principe, but i not like to work with it
[11:20] <FunnyLookinHat> !easysource
[11:20] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:20] <itchi> TheGateKeeper: Gona boot him up, right now
[11:21] <TheGateKeeper> itchi: ok :-)
[11:21] <goblor> thx anyway
[11:21] <itchi> TheGateKeeper: It's the 2005-04 version, a bit old now it think
[11:22] <tabias> how the hell do I get tv to work on ubuntu (followed every manual, mythtv can't install// tvtime doesn't have a source) got a hauppauge 878 pci card
[11:22] <maxamillion> anyone know how to config dual monitors on an ati card no longer supported by official ati drivers?
[11:25] <itchi> tabias: When you load the module, it's possible that you need to tell wich tuner you use
[11:25] <itchi> maxamillion: I not know about the Ubuntu way, but on the TLDP there are some docs explaining how to get it
[11:26] <NUTT> hello folks, I'm new to ubuntu and I've been cursed!
[11:26] <gregmattersen> <-newb here, just installed ubuntu on older HP laptop, worked great until I closed lid (which started suspend mode).  now the laptop will not start back up, any ideas?
[11:26] <itchi> tabias: Wich type is it?
[11:26] <tabias> hauppauge pci (chip 878)
[11:26] <tabias> it doesn't find a source
[11:26] <itchi> tabias: lspci what as output?
[11:27] <itchi> TheGateKeeper: Ow, kanotix is booting, some parts are realy beautifull and some horible :-/
[11:27] <tabias> all it is showing is nvidia stuff and creative (and motherboard but no hauppauge etc)
[11:27] <NUTT> I have an old toshiba portege 3410CT running dapper and I'm trying to install a V4 WPC54G, yup, I'm in some kind of living hell!!
[11:28] <itchi> tabias: Can you paste the whole lspci output on an pastebin?
[11:28] <tabias> sure
[11:28] <tabias> !pastbin
[11:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:29] <lupine_85> !paste
[11:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:29] <itchi> TheGateKeeper: That rounded spash screen is beautifull, but around, the wallpapers suck a bit
[11:29] <tabias> itchi: http://paste.uni.cc/10743
[11:29] <TheGateKeeper> itchi: think I will at least have to give it a try, like arch but can't figure a way to install clutter free KDE, like kororaa/gentoo, but need to sleep at night so can't leave my pc running 24/7 for a big emerge
[11:29] <dme> I remember seeing on the www.ubuntu.com website an Ubuntu cd that could be ordered for computers without an internet connection, but now i can't find it anymore; has it been disconnected?
[11:29] <NUTT> could anyone help me with this WPC54G ?V4 WNIC? pleeeaze?
[11:30] <itchi> tabias: Line 19
[11:30] <TheGateKeeper> itchi: I could change the wallpaper :-)
[11:30] <tabias> yeah that stuff is it
[11:30] <itchi> TheGateKeeper: Yeah, right ;-)
[11:30] <gregmattersen> dme: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[11:30] <tabias> but  I don't have an idea how to put the source in tvtime :s
[11:30] <dme> gregmatterson: it's not there, unless i'm blind
[11:30] <itchi> tabias: When you start tvtime. What get you exaclty?
[11:31] <HumanPrototype> hi all, is it possible to "upgrade" from 32bit to 64bit?
[11:31] <anemone> currently i have a ide hdd with linux & windows, just got a sata drive & i want that to take its place...any way to do this while keeping both os's bootable?
[11:31] <dme> the thing i'm trying to get around is how long the install takes: downloading all the apt packages takes almost an hour ... if i could skip that step and come back to it later, or, preferably, have all that data on a cd, i could do my experimental installs a lot quicker
[11:31] <vulcanium> hey guys
[11:31] <ucordes> how can i find out what pairing key my bluetooth uses?
[11:31] <mumbleserver> http://johnedmondson.pastebin.co.uk/3930
[11:31] <david_> hiya
[11:31] <mumbleserver> there you go thats th real one all those who are intrested
[11:32] <tabias> I get a blue screen: no signal and on the bottom:pwc: numeral result out of range Cannot open capture device /dev/Video0
[11:32] <vulcanium> I am having some issues with sound that I can't seem to get sorted out
[11:32] <david_> has anyone gotten an error:/usr/lib/vmware-player/lib/libgcc_s.so.1/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_4.2.0' not found (required by /usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.6).   ?
[11:32] <vulcanium> It works
[11:33] <vulcanium> but, the I get no output for the front hanels
[11:33] <boink> means you need gcc 4.2.0
[11:33] <vulcanium> nor does apdif out work
[11:33] <mumbleserver> dose that mean anything to anyone ?
[11:33] <itchi> tabias: Is the module already loaded? lsmod | grep bttv
[11:33] <foo> I am trying to set up an ssh user and chroot him so all he can do is ssh in to me, and then ssh out... and that's it. I followed this: http://www.ffnn.nl/pages/articles/linux/setting-up-a-chroot-jail-for-cvs.php#contentstart - but for some reason, the user isn't able to login. Any ideas?
[11:33] <abbot45> does anyone know if there is a GUI program that works like "cat" in the terminal?
[11:33] <maxLF> Hey I got skippy sound in WOW under wine, how do I fix this?
[11:33] <david_> gcc 4.2 isnt out yet, is it?
[11:33] <dyn-afk> abbot45 try gedit
[11:33] <NUTT> any idea how many people have beaten themselves to death with a Linksys wpc54g v4, a toshiba portege and a ubuntu cd??
[11:33] <boink> what's your gcc -v ?
[11:34] <dyn-afk> gedit is an editor but you can view text files as well :)
[11:34] <itchi> tabias: In my case when i load the module, i need to specify which tunner i need to use and which tchipset; so i do  modprobe bttv card=100 tuner=5
[11:34] <mumbleserver> NUTT,  one sec
[11:34] <tabias> http://paste.uni.cc/10745
[11:34] <mumbleserver> ive got a link that might help you
[11:34] <Phuzion> I'm having DNS errors
[11:34] <abbot45> dyn-afk - i need it to join files together.  i use cat to rejoin seperated video & audio files.
[11:34] <gregmattersen> anyone?  laptop won't boot after suspending in Ubuntu.  tried everything i can think of, any ideas?
[11:34] <NUTT> a thousand thanks mumbleserv
[11:34] <Phuzion> Can someone help me diagnose my problem?
[11:34] <Phlosten> NUTT: 11 so far, there is a record page on the wiki :)
[11:34] <boink> what's the problem?
[11:35] <dyn-afk> abbot45 you can use audicity if you want an audio editor
[11:35] <Phuzion> unknown host google.com when the machine that I'm on right next to it on the same exact switch is fine
[11:35] <dyn-afk> for video I don't know,maybe something like avidemux will do
[11:35] <rleathers> why not just change the users shell from bash to a script you write that prompts for user input as the argument to an ssh command ?
[11:35] <boink> what's in your /etc/resolv.conf ?
[11:35] <Phuzion> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[11:35] <rleathers> forget the chroot jail if all they need to do is turn right around and ssh elsewhere
[11:35] <boink> try putting in a real nameserver in their, from your isp
[11:36] <mumbleserver> dont know if it will help uyou though
[11:36] <pike__> NUTT: that laptop should be pretty nice for linux, same for linksys router..
[11:36] <boink> instead of using the router
[11:36] <itchi> tabias: Okay, it's loaded. There is an need to know which card type you need to point to and to which tunner. Aka modprobe bttv card=100 tuner=5
[11:36] <abbot45> dyn-afk - not really what i'm after.  too much unnecessary converting & encoding and stuff.
[11:36] <maxLF> how do I get rid of the skippy/cruddy quality of sound in world of warcraft?
[11:36] <mumbles> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear there you go NUTT
[11:36] <Phuzion> boink:  192.168.1.1 works
[11:36] <Phuzion> I know it does
[11:36] <boink> it's not now
[11:36] <Phuzion> This machine has that same nameserver
[11:36] <ucordes> how can i set the bluetooth security key for my ubuntu?
[11:37] <boink> put in your isp's nameserver and see if it will work
[11:37] <joeCoT> hey, question: is there a way to locally fake a cname?
[11:37] <abbot45> using "cat" will just slap the files end to end if they are named correctly.
[11:37] <itchi> tabias: Know you which chip you have? do an search on http://bttv-gallery.de/
[11:37] <hister> is it advisable to install ubuntu onto a fat32 partition?
[11:37] <TheGateKeeper> Phuzion: router isn't doing something silly like blocking because it been set up to only allow certain pc's through with certain mac addresses or something like that?
[11:37] <abbot45> nevermind.  i'll just use the command line to do it.
[11:38] <hister> !fat
[11:38] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:38] <foo> minerale: yo
[11:38] <boink> most routers are total junk
[11:38] <hister> !fat32
[11:38] <david_> not quite as fast, I dont think fat is journalled, but should be ok
[11:38] <NUTT> the toshiba portege that I'm using flew using xubuntu but I couldn't get the blessed wnic to work, I noticed that someone had managed it with ubuntu full so I figured i'd give it a go, guess what, I'm no futher forward in my lead booted wading into the world of linux!! :D
[11:38] <bruenig> hister, don't think so
[11:38] <itchi> tabias: Search on the brand and model of your tv card. You get then the chips there are in. It's important, like we need to tell modpore bttv which chip and tuner he gona use
[11:38] <Phuzion> TheGateKeeper: I
[11:38] <Phuzion> TheGateKeeper: I
[11:38] <Phlosten> hister: no
[11:38] <ucordes> anybody?
[11:38] <tabias> k
[11:38] <Phuzion> uhhg
[11:38] <hister> Phlosten: doesn't work, or is slow?
[11:38] <Phlosten> i would be thinking, doesnt work
[11:38] <pike__> hister: slow and crappy
[11:38] <Phuzion> TheGateKeeper: I'm pretty sure that it's not blocking any pc's
[11:38] <Phuzion> actually
[11:39] <Phuzion> positive
[11:39] <pike__> hister: and might not work
[11:39] <Phlosten> hister: fat32 isnt journalised like ext3 etc
[11:39] <TheGateKeeper> Phuzion: just a thought
[11:39] <itchi> tabias: Tell me if there is somethings, or need more help
[11:39] <rleathers> is there a bigmem kernel package for Ubuntu 6.06 ?   I need to support 8GB RAM
[11:39] <joeCoT> is there a way to locally fake a cname? using host.conf or dnsmasque?
[11:39] <boink> rleathers: in 64 or 32 bit?
[11:40] <rleathers> 32
[11:40] <boink> 32 can't support 8 gig ram
[11:40] <david_> how do I install gcc 4.2.0, its not in the repos?
[11:40] <hister> Phlosten: well I want to be able to read my linux stuffs from windows, and still have a large space on ntfs to install games and stuff... can I just install / on a very small ext3 partition, and /home on the fat
[11:40] <boink> david_: you compile it
[11:40] <Phlosten> hister: there is an ext3 plugin for windows
[11:41] <itchi> tabias: On http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/BTTV/#TUNMOD you have an list with the tv tunner and the corresponding number. Idem for the card, need to go an dir up
[11:41] <Phuzion> if anyone is gonna say something to me, i'll be back in like 5 i just had a major netsplit on one of my networks, brb
[11:41] <david_> should that fix the
[11:41] <david_> /usr/lib/vmware-player/lib/libgcc_s.so.1/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_4.2.0' not found (required by /usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.6).
[11:41] <david_> error?
[11:41] <hister> Phlosten: yeah but does it read/write reliably and at a decent speed?
[11:41] <boink> gcc 4.2.0 not found, just as it says
[11:41] <oslo> hellO
[11:41] <oslo> how could i switch all programs language from english to french on my kubuntu please ??
[11:41] <Phlosten> hister: no idea, i ditched windows a long time ago
[11:41] <itchi> tabias: In my case i have an tuner Philips PAL_BG (FI1216 and compatibles) so the code is tunner=5. See the previous link
[11:41] <georgy> oslo : install the language packs
[11:42] <ucordes> what do i need to do in order to pair ubuntu with my cell phone using bluetooth?
[11:42] <bruenig> hister, yeah there is a driver to allow full ext3 read write on linux, but alternately you could create another partition that was fat32 and put your stuff in there, I wouldn't recommend creating a /home partition as fat32 though
[11:42] <pike__> oslo: someone here might be able to help but if not /join kubuntu channel
[11:42] <Phlosten> hister: at the end of the day I am pretty sure Ubuntu will need all ext3
[11:42] <bruenig> hister, http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html
[11:42] <upatel> hi
[11:42] <Phlosten> thanks bruenig, couldnt remember the url
[11:42] <oslo> georgy> how can it be automaticaly ?
[11:42] <oslo> pike__> already done
[11:42] <georgy> oslo : with adept or synaptic from internet
[11:42] <itchi> tabias: Once you get that working, probably you first need to   tvtime-scanner
[11:43] <oslo> georgy> be done sorry
[11:43] <HumanPrototype> any idea if upgrading from 32bit to 64bit is possible then?
[11:44] <boink> odd, I want to install mutt .. and it's installing postfix to
[11:45] <minerale> Could someone help me, I have installed grub, and now my hard drive is corrupted
[11:45] <minerale> grub does not seem to boot correctly anymore, the windows xp cd does not recognised the computer, the windows vista cd boots but can not repair the drive
[11:45] <joeCoT> is there a way to locally fake a cname? using host.conf or dnsmasque?
[11:45] <aziz> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[11:45] <LjL> minerale: uhm... perhaps the drive is just broken? do you have S.M.A.R.T. reporting enabled in the BIOS?
[11:45] <aziz_> slaaaaaaam
[11:46] <itchi> minerale: Take an an tool like cdrescue or so and look what's going with the partitions ?
[11:46] <pike__> minerale: boot from the ubuntu livecd or knoppix i cant imagine the windows cd being of much use..
[11:46] <mumbleserver> NUTT, dose that hlep?
[11:46] <Ries> Hey all... does anybody know a site when I can read about making a custom (minimal) install CD for ubuntu? I compiled my own kernel and I need to use that during installation
[11:46] <Iznougoud> Hi folks. Just installed Ubuntu, and could do with some guidance on the basics..
[11:46] <mart_> hi, ive been trying for a week to get my worspace switcher working again
[11:47] <mart_> at the moment it will only allow one workspace, anyone heard of this before?
[11:47] <minerale> ljl: I can boot linux just fine, it's located in the second partition and I use a flash disk with grub installed
[11:47] <itchi> tabias: Been following? I know it's a bit pain on the ass to know about the chips the card is been using. And if you not know about it, it's a bit searching ;-). Tell me if you find it and can go your way
[11:47] <TheGateKeeper> minerale: if you have windows on your system then you could try fixmbr, google for that on the microsoft site
[11:47] <habeeb> Hello, I downloaded the tarball of iceweasel. Untarred it, and I opened the iceweasel binary with ./iceweasel. If I want to put that command on a launcher. How do I do that?
[11:47] <LjL> !customlivecd > ries
[11:47] <psycose_> i've block kernel-386
[11:48] <Ries> LjL: thanks
[11:48] <foo> I am trying to set up an ssh user and chroot him so all he can do is ssh in to me, and then ssh out... and that's it. I followed this: http://www.ffnn.nl/pages/articles/linux/setting-up-a-chroot-jail-for-cvs.php#contentstart - but for some reason, the user isn't able to login. Any ideas?
[11:48] <rleathers> OK, about bigmem - - my dmesg output says to use a PAE enabled kernel  (I want to use 8GB RAM)
[11:48] <LjL> Ries: dunno if the site talks about them, but i know there are at least two semi-automated tools for making custom cds. they're called... uh...
[11:48] <rleathers> so is there a bigmem package for Ubuntu like in Red Hat ?
[11:49] <rleathers> errrr kernel
[11:49] <NUTT> ah close mumbles, but no cigar I'm afraid, the V4 card appears to be fashioned from the bowels of hell and some freakish chipset called "IPROCOMM IPN 2220 (rev 01)" Its like a slow and painful death but PCMCIA shaped!
[11:49] <crimsun> rleathers: just use the -server kernel.
[11:49] <jvai> lol
[11:49] <TheLance> whats up guys
[11:49] <psycose_> using synaptic i've block kernel-image 2.6.15.xx but now the system wants to install kernel-image 2.6.15-27 is it because i've install kernel-image-386 ? thanks
[11:50] <BHSPitLappy> ehh
[11:50] <LjL> Ries: blah, i can't remember
[11:50] <TheLance> hey does anyone know if I can get a 1440X900 resolution in ubuntu?
[11:50] <habeeb> Hello, I downloaded the tarball of iceweasel. Untarred it, and I opened the iceweasel binary with ./iceweasel. If I want to put that command on a launcher. How do I do that?
[11:50] <CVirus> anybody succeeded in getting the Wireless Broadcom 4311 to work ?
[11:50] <LjL> TheLance: you can (if your monitor can), but you need to add a modeline manually to your xorg.conf
[11:50] <minerale> thegatekeeper: the problem is that the windows xp cd says I do not have a hard drive at all (the vista cd recognises it but doesn ot have fixmbr )
[11:51] <TheLance> where is that file LjL?
[11:51] <TheLance> do you have an apt-get command for me to edit it?
[11:51] <LjL> TheLance: apt-get is a command used to install packages, not to edit files. that file is at /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and you can edit it using "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[11:51] <agent> in openoffice calc, how do i make two columns be the x and y axis in a chart?
[11:52] <TheLance> thanks LJL
[11:52] <LjL> TheLance: as for actually writing the modeline, perhaps try http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl
[11:52] <anemone> currently i have a ide hdd with linux & windows, just got a sata drive & i want that to take its place...any way to do this while keeping both os's bootable?
[11:52] <tecywiz121> heym quick question, and if this the wrong place to ask, please direct me :P,  are there and journalling file systems that work r/w in both linux and windows?
[11:52] <jmitchj> Hey, just installed ATI Drivers to get the ATI Control Panel...ATI Control appears on the Application list but I get this error when I try to start it..."Could not launch menu item, Details: Failed to execute child process "fireglcontrolpanel (No such file or directory) ...any ideas on how to fix this?
[11:52] <itchi> agent: Try /msg chanserv list *openoffice*
[11:53] <vulcanium> what sound card is best supported under ubuntu?
[11:53] <hister> vulcanium: I'm sure there are plenty that work fine out of the box.
[11:54] <TheLance> thanks i'll tell you how it works here
[11:54] <joeCoT> is there a way to locally fake a cname? using host.conf or dnsmasque?
[11:54] <agent> itchi: thanks
[11:54] <hister> vulcanium: I've never had a problem with my sound card with ubuntu, other than a misconfigured alsa which has nothing to do with the card.
[11:55] <vulcanium> well
[11:55] <vulcanium> mine definatly does not work fine
[11:55] <vulcanium> onboard auio on a DFI ultra d
[11:55] <vulcanium> I've gotten to work, but only barely
[11:55] <itchi> Gona give it again an try, in qemu when i try to install ubuntu, he always fail on 15% when he make the partitions
[11:55] <vulcanium> serverly distorted sound and its really quiet
[11:55] <hister> I cannot believe, by the way, that this is the only distro I could find that boots up with my dwl-g520 rev b1 (atheros, uses madwifi) working out of the box!
[11:55] <quiet> shhh
[11:56] <shwag> mysql wont start
[11:56] <hister> I feel like overkill using xubuntu desktop as my primary livecd!
[11:56] <anemone> vulcanium, i have got a working cm 8738
[11:56] <shwag> error "cant connect to local MySQL server
[11:56] <TheGateKeeper> vulcanium: if you have found a sound card that doesn't work under ubuntu, given the devs have removed alsaconf, then you need to file a bug report
[11:56] <hister> I was *shocked* knoppix wouldn't do it. I thought it was the king for wireless.
[11:56] <jmitchj> Hey, just installed ATI Drivers to get the ATI Control Panel...ATI Control appears on the Application list but I get this error when I try to start it..."Could not launch menu item, Details: Failed to execute child process "fireglcontrolpanel (No such file or directory) ...any ideas on how to fix this?
[11:56] <anemone> shwag, is it running sudo /etc/init.d/mysqld ( <- something like that) start
[11:57] <shwag> anemone: thats the one
[11:57] <babwe2> hello all my first time here
[11:57] <habeeb> $ cd /home/habeeb/Downloads/iceweasel/ ; ./iceweasel ; done
[11:57] <habeeb> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `done'
[11:57] <shwag> anemone: was working before.
[11:57] <habeeb> Where is the mistake? :/
[11:57] <anemone> shwag, what happens when u try to start it?
[11:57] <itchi> habeeb: cd /home/habeeb/Downloads/iceweasel/ ; ./iceweasel
[11:57] <Gabby_Hayes>  welcome  babwe2 ...
[11:57] <itchi> habeeb: What between the both??
[11:58] <babwe2> I have one q what is segmentation fault when u install a aps
[11:58] <habeeb> What do you mean itchi ? (btw, thanks)
[11:58] <itchi> habeeb: You first do cd /home/habeeb/Downloads/iceweasel/ ; then what with ./icweasel?
[11:58] <babwe2> thx gabby
[11:58] <Gabby_Hayes> babwe2 .. means that thatapp wasn't behaving ..
[11:58] <vulcanium> TheGateKeeper: what did alsoconf do?
[11:59] <TheGateKeeper> vulcanium: use it for installing sound drivers
[11:59] <itchi> habeeb: You need to do somethings with ./icweasel. Maybe cd in it?? But looks strange your command. What want you to do?
[11:59] <habeeb> itchi: it just opens the binary iceweasel inside. ./~/Downloads/iceweasel/iceweasel. Didnt work
[11:59] <vulcanium> ah
[11:59] <babwe2> it in the repo for ubuntu 5.10
[11:59] <vulcanium> well I tried everythign in that sound guide
[11:59] <habeeb> itchi: iceweasel is a binary inside the directory iceweasel
[11:59] <babwe2> called drip
[11:59] <vulcanium> nothing made any change
[11:59] <itchi> habeeb: Is it x?
[11:59] <XxTwitchxX> Does anyone know how to change the login splash screen on GNOME?
[11:59] <TheGateKeeper> vulcanium: or at least you would if the devs hadn't removed it
[11:59] <itchi> habeeb: Executable i mean
[11:59] <Gabby_Hayes> babwe2 .. sounds like a corrupted file .. a new install?
[12:00] <habeeb> itchi: yes
[12:00] <vulcanium> I can't just add in back in somehow TheGateKeeper?
[12:00] <habeeb> Anyway itchi, thanks for helping me out. Gotta sleep now. GOod night!
[12:00] <itchi> habeeb: Need you not 'sh ./icweasel; echo "done"'?
[12:00] <TheGateKeeper> vulcanium: the driver?