=== orkid__ [n=orkid__@bas1-barrie18-1242377856.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:00] Riddell: kubuntu-meta with kipi-plugins uploade [01:00] +d [01:01] ok [01:01] which reminds me I need to fix k-d-s for accessibility [01:05] ah, what are the changes you'll provide ? [01:06] spelling fixes [01:06] hum what provides /usr/local/include/qt4/Qt/qobject.h [01:07] nothing, it's in /usr/local [01:08] well the qt4 headers [01:08] checking for Qt headers in default path... trying different pathes [01:08] checking for /usr/local/include/qt4/Qt/qobject.h... not found [01:08] ... [01:08] qt4-dev ? [01:09] more libqt4-dev i guess [01:11] nothing will be in /usr/local [01:11] really [01:11] if it depends on being in /usr/local is broken [01:11] yea it was looking there becouse i dident have it in /usr/lib/qt4 [01:12] i installed libqt4-dev and it foudn them [01:12] found* === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:21] oh wow this sucks === imbrandon go's back to python-kde [01:23] imbrandon: what are you doing with python-kde? [01:24] well i /was/ going to make a dist-upgrader in php-qt becouse i already know php very well , but the php-qt segfaults too much SO i'm looking at taclking it in python [01:24] since that seems to be the thing now-a-days [01:25] but my python isnt all that great , thus trying php-qt first [01:26] err, the blocker with upgrade tool is the lack of embedded konsole in pykde [01:26] whatcha think ? [01:26] best help would be packaging the latest pykde to see if the embedded konsole works [01:27] it needs a switch passed to it to turn on embedded konsole [01:27] ok will do [01:27] i thought the new one was already in [01:27] kk [01:27] no [01:27] pykde3 right ( not 4 ) [01:29] may i suggest ruby? libkonsolepart works fine there with korundum ;-) [01:30] nuku, well i know -0- ruby tbh, leaste i know c++ well ( too long to develop ) php well ( php-qt sucks ) and python a little [01:30] that and all the python libs are already in the distro ;) [01:31] imbrandon: yes, pykde3 [01:31] nuku: no, it's written in python [01:32] ok python kde binding beeing in main is an argument :) [01:32] ahh yea ok, got the new version , packaing it up now, seems we had a svn snapshot before [01:32] it being written in python is the larger argument [01:33] no point in starting a discussion there anyway as it seem :) [01:34] just stroked through my mind that korundum is really nice :) [01:35] yea i checked it out when the markey said something but the thought of learning a new lang isnt high on my list atm ;) [01:35] nuku, ^ [01:35] yeah so it will be :) === orkid__ [n=mike@74.13.46.128] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Parkotron [n=parker@dyn129-100-97-155.bc.uwo.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:20] ugh python-kde3 ( even the old one ) is ftbs === Tonio_ [n=tonio@6.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === n8k99 [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@6.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong watches the tumbleweeds blow by === Tonio_ [n=tonio@6.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:57] re [02:57] Riddell: did you remove kde 3.5.5 from your repo ? [02:57] I have to patch ark since the ark-part desktop file is broken... === jack_wyt [n=jack@221.221.149.186] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [i=user@69-87-140-182.async.iserv.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:14] hux [03:14] quick question, in the logout menu does hibernate only show in laptop users or does it show for everyone in edgy [03:16] jjesse: to me, hibernate can't show on my ibook, but has on my desktop computer [03:21] Tonio_: no its moved to not-kde-355 since someone leaked it [03:21] freeflying: thanks for answering my question [03:21] jjesse: it only shows on computers that support it afaik [03:21] imbrandon_: thanks [03:22] imbrandonwhat 'leaked' means ? [03:22] what was leaked? [03:26] Tonio_: someone told the public about the url [03:26] ah okay === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.120.144] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [i=user@69-87-140-218.async.iserv.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:03] join #ichthuzx [04:03] doh === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.120.144] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nuku2 [n=nuku@e178115116.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:01] kde bug #391672 === orkid__ [n=mike@74.13.46.128] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.120.144] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:56] what the... [05:56] my kate is crashing like crazy. [05:57] well if you stopped poking it... [05:57] Hobbsee: your kate is krashing liKe krazy? [05:57] and it's crashed again... [05:58] look, i'm just trying to open the files :P [05:58] are they gnome files... because there's this new feature in kate.... j/k ;) [05:59] no, they're standard c++ :P [05:59] http://buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/ [05:59] ie http://buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/katebacktrace and http://buntudot.org/people/~hobbsee/katebacktrace2 [05:59] did you do a recent upgrade without logout/login? [05:59] k-d-s? [05:59] hmm, that shouldn't do it... [06:00] i can't get my kate to crash on 3.5.5 [06:00] hmm === jdong looks for some C files [06:01] and 3 [06:01] they're c++ files [06:01] jdong: http://online.mq.edu.au/pub/COMP125/assignments/ass/IPlist.h is one [06:01] and also IPlist.cpp, which has the same thing in it [06:01] Hobbsee: both opened just fine in kate [06:02] jdong: try ctrl+a, ctrl+s, ctrl+c [06:02] i've had it crashing doing the first two [06:02] just hitting ctrl+s does it [06:02] ah, got it! [06:02] took all three, plus a mouse click [06:02] sometimes ctrl+a, and a click [06:02] ahhh...is that it [06:02] so Hobbsee, you're not crazy [06:03] the click does it [06:03] when everything is selected and you click [06:03] similar traceback [06:03] yep [06:03] there's a backtrace3 there too [06:03] hmm [06:03] perhaps a 3.5.5 regression [06:03] what's weird is that it seems to only be those files. [06:04] yeah, I'm trying some other files [06:04] and it's not crashing [06:05] that's really weird [06:05] well, it's easily reproducable with those files [06:05] :-/ [06:06] either way, it's really late for me... I should really be sleeping [06:06] or I'll be really groggy tomorrow [06:06] which generally prompts me to throw fits at everyone in #u-d and #k-d [06:06] expecially since bug 57872 hasn't been fixed yet HINT HINT HINT [06:06] Malone bug 57872 in gnome-power "regression: pressing power button no longer brings up logout dialog" [Unknown,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57872 === jdong storms off to bed [06:07] jdong: how's that abug? :P [06:08] jdong : KDE 3.5.5 out? [06:08] lnxkde: developers only [06:08] lnxkde: not really intended for general usage [06:08] nice updates on it? [06:08] lnxkde: bugfixes [06:08] most are unnoticeable [06:08] :) [06:09] it's nothing to jump all over, honestly === lnxkde hopes first usable KDE4 is out soon [06:19] keeping dreaming === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@216-220-247-115.midmaine.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.120.144] has joined #kubuntu-devel === NeoChaosX [n=nael@ppp-71-139-184-98.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:10] GAHHHHHHH! [10:10] both kate *and* kwrite are unusable due to this bug. === [niceday] [n=daniel@87.100.54.106] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:32] Hobbsee: you love emacs anyhow. [10:32] crimsun: heh. no, i want to copy and paste text with ease. [10:32] hey cool, there is a patch for it [10:33] Riddell: ping? [10:33] Hobbsee: yeah, though that crashing is weird, doesn't happen with kate if you select first the file from sidebar [10:33] atleast didn't crash here after that routine [10:33] Tm_T: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-commits&m=116022418923427&w=2 [10:34] thanks, I'll read that [10:34] hmm [10:34] interesting [10:35] which means i'm going to poke for it to be fixed, before i go mad. [10:35] Hobbsee: ok, can you try if what I just explained helps as temporary? [10:35] or is that something different [10:36] I used Kate all yesterday night [10:36] with no sigle crash [10:38] sidebar = file list [10:38] I'm not at home so can't help more === Hobbsee checks [10:40] thanks [10:40] Tm_T: well, if they've found the crash problem, and fixed it, that means that we can [10:41] yes, but I mean as temporary workaround so you don't need to be without Katepart [10:41] this is workaround for you until it's repackaged [10:41] to avoid ripping pants etc ;) [10:42] Tm_T: at the moment, i cant even select the file nwo, without it crashing. [10:42] wow [10:42] I wonder what's different in my system [10:42] Tm_T: it only happens with certain files [10:43] I see [10:43] oh well, you can't win all the time ;) [10:44] I'll test it more when I get home [10:49] Tm_T, Hobbsee: I found that kate crashes on my system only when I have files with first line empty === Hobbsee tries to find out if she can just rebuild one package, isntead of all of the source [10:50] when I put some characters in first line and even delete them later kate doesn't crash [10:51] today evening I'll try new packages of kdebase and kdelibs for dapper - I've seen they have been repackaged yesterday evening [10:51] hmm. kubuntu.org is down anyway [10:52] Hobbsee: not for me, I'm downloading the dapper packages now [10:53] interesting. they've been renamed [10:55] Hobbsee: yes, they bacame too public and they were going private for developers and testers only [10:55] xeros: right... [10:58] I wonder when Riddell is going to build koffice 1.6 - it seems that the kde team is ready to publish them and now they have a week for packagers to make binary packages [10:59] dunno. Riddell might not be the one to build them. *shrug* === el [n=konversa@port-83-236-238-37.static.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:02] hi el [11:02] hi Hobbsee :) === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:21] right. i'll stop whinging [11:21] Riddell's latest packages have fixed it. [11:21] but they didnt have the versoin number bumped, so they didnt auto download. grumble === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm238.omega16.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away is now known as \sh === nuku2 [n=nuku@e178115116.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:43] Hobbsee: thanks, I found dapper updated packages but I missed edgy's packages. I reinstalled the kdelibs packages on edgy and it helped to me, too :) [11:43] nice :) === Tonio_ [n=tonio@6.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:17] hi [12:19] hi Tonio_ [12:33] hey Tonio_ [12:35] hi Hobbsee :) [12:36] Tonio_: so where's the kopete to try? === apokryphos [n=apokryph@87-194-86-227.bethere.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:38] Hobbsee: http://ubuntu.tonio.homelinux.org [12:38] Hobbsee: I'm waiting mdz to approve uvf exception request [12:39] Tonio_: yeah, i saw that [12:39] Tonio_: where's the deb of kopete, or is it not built yet? [12:40] Hobbsee: ? [12:40] let me check === Hobbsee is fishing thru the repo, but cant see it [12:41] hum, looks like I removed it.... I only have the source package.... [12:41] Hobbsee: let me reupload :) [12:41] Tonio_: ahh :) [12:41] 1 minute [12:41] Hobbsee: are you using knetworkmanager ? [12:42] Tonio_: yep [12:42] I noticed I had issues since I use 3.5.5 [12:42] kdeinit fails to launch it on session restore [12:42] Hobbsee: never saw that problem ? [12:42] Hobbsee: in fact I have a blank space in the systray, but the icon never appears, and I have to kill the process and restart to get it working === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@23.8-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:43] Tonio_: i had problems before i redid the session config [12:43] ah yes... === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee just made a new saved session to combat that. [12:43] Hobbsee: how did you workarround ? [12:43] i've noticed that happening a couple of times though anyway, yeah [12:43] you manually save your session ? [12:44] Hobbsee: yes, it doesn't happen very often [12:44] for example on logout, it works [12:44] Tonio_: i get an empty one, load what i want, then manually save that, adn load that [12:44] on shutdown and reboot, I have the issue [12:44] Hobbsee: the point is I don't know if that's a knm issue or a kdeinit one.... [12:45] all I know is that the problem appeared with 3.5.5 [12:45] Tonio_: true. i never logout [12:45] yep [12:45] Hobbsee: you should see kopete now [12:45] Hobbsee: I'll contact timo, we'll see [12:45] getting it [12:48] Tonio_: did you end up getting a changelog? [12:50] Hobbsee: I did something using the svn-changelog yes === LeeJunFan_ [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:12] is there any way to restrict usage of repository? [01:14] Tm_T: you can use apache or proftpd filtering systems [01:15] Tm_T: but apt doesn't support authentification [01:15] Tm_T: you can restrict by IP or domain, limit the download speed etc....... [01:16] Tonio_: I'm talking about problems with kde-355 repository leaking to too public [01:17] that's just the curse of teh internet, everything know everything [01:17] Tm_T: well the only solution is probably to "deny from all" and allow our IP addresses manually [01:17] heh [01:17] Tonio_: tell that to riddell ;) [01:17] that can be made easy with a web interface writting a .htaccess file [01:18] Tm_T: hehe, I will :) [01:18] I can't do that on the server [01:18] Riddell: ah... [01:18] I assumed so [01:18] Riddell: no write access ? [01:19] there should be some reasonable solution for that [01:19] putting it at a less official URL should be fine [01:19] Riddell: how about a .htaccess file in 3.5.5 deb folder only [01:19] Riddell: that is not hard to... [01:19] that apache doesn't let me to do much in .htaccess [01:20] Riddell: yes, htaccess needs to be activated in your virtualhost's config [01:20] you don't even have to mention that repository to people, they use browser [01:20] Riddell: is there a proftpd on the server ? [01:20] Riddell: .ftpaccess also exists :) [01:21] Riddell: then the best solution is a testing server, externalized [01:21] Riddell: you could use mine for example, I can handle it, no bandwidth issue [01:22] Tonio_: apt-get can be piped thru ssh or some other autheticationed protocol? === Tm_T is going wild with ideas [01:23] Tm_T: hum.... should be possible, but hard to handle in my opinion [01:23] ah === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:24] Tonio_: auth in website -> automatically adds ip to allow list perhaps? [01:25] Riddell, Tm_T: I assume an https with key authentication would work also [01:25] ..... [01:25] distrowatch published the repos? [01:27] dunno but I have seen "noob users" who has no idea about testing had 3.5.5 and whined, so, somehow they've gone wild [01:28] Tonio_: apt doesn't do https === Hobbsee tries to remember who the reporter we had in here was. [01:28] ugh. great. [01:29] we had a reporter in here? [01:29] Riddell: hum, yes I just saw that in the logs [01:29] http://kubuntu.org/packages [01:29] the problem is that it isn't hard to find if you search a bit...... [01:29] Riddell: someone was writing something about something. *tries to get her brain to recall* [01:29] Riddell: how about removing dirlisting on that folder, to start ;) === goldenear [n=goldenea@vol75-4-82-225-33-186.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:31] hi goldenear [01:31] goldenear: I packaged jabbin yesterday, fyi [01:31] Tonio_: great :) [01:32] is it on a repository ? [01:32] goldenear: http://ubuntu.tonio.homelinux.org [01:33] !seen silver_hook [01:33] I last saw silver_hook (n=matija@BSN-61-66-55.dsl.siol.net) 1d 15h 31m 44s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection [01:33] I'm going to try it right now ! :) [01:34] Riddell: do you have a name of the reporter on distrowatch? [01:35] Riddell: is there a mysql server on that machine ? [01:36] Riddell: we can do a quick php script that allow or not downloading according to the guy IP address [01:36] Hobbsee: no [01:36] and store them in a mysql database [01:36] Tonio_: it's not that important [01:36] Riddell: okay :) [01:37] apparently this guy was from TUX. === Hobbsee pokes fdoving [01:37] Hobbsee: when where? [01:37] imbrandon ping ? [01:37] oh fsck.... [01:38] Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/kubuntu-devel-2006-10-08.html - search for silver_hook [01:40] Riddell: i'd imagine for http://www.tuxmagazine.com/ [01:41] it's been mentioned in front of the guy, by people in the channel, including myself asking jucato to test it. whether he's connected to distrowatch or something, i dont know. [01:41] Tonio_: do you want to try jabbin voip ? [01:42] and fdoving gave him completely the wrong answer on where to get kopete [01:42] i told him properly later [01:42] that's where i saw the guy, and found out he was a reporter [02:01] goldenear: I can't... my microphone doesn't work [02:01] :( === marseillai_ [n=mars_@AMarseille-256-1-104-25.w90-10.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:02] Tonio_: about that, I have found something strange yesterday: the mixer in kde is not as complete as alsamixer... and that's a problem for me [02:03] indeed, the control to set my internal mic volume is not available in kmixer but it is in alsamixer [02:03] (and the control reported as internal mic is kmixer is not the internal mic) [02:05] goldenear: report a bug at kde ;) [02:06] I would like to find where this bug comes from first... [02:29] Tonio; I've found the bug. I guess it's also why your internal mic doesn't work: [02:30] 1) in kmix (and alsa mixer) I see two mic controls: internal mic and mic... internal mic is a wrong indication as both internal mic and the external mic jack use the mic control [02:31] internal mic is useless and should not be used! (and should not be displayed) [02:32] 2) mic volume as only effect on direct monitoring, not for recording (or voip)... the volume for recording is "capture" [02:35] 3) "capture" in kmix does not change "capture" in alsamixer here :/ === bobesponja [n=pat@bas75-1-81-57-4-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:53] so to recorde something you have to set the record source (mic), set capture on and set the capture volume (mic volume as no effect on that and mic monitoring [02:53] 3) the same here :) [02:53] 3) seems to be the bug [02:54] I've happy you can confirme it nuku :) === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:56] nuku: what sound chip do you have ? [02:57] ICH6 / SigmaTel [02:59] not really clear why this happens ... as the capture mixer control has cvolume which looks correct === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong wakes up and begins piecing together the UVFe request for ktorrent 2.0.3 [03:09] nuku: my sound chip is an intel hda (my computer is a centrino 2 laptop) [03:09] so the issue may be with intel chips... [03:09] Could someone with an other sound chip confirm the bug ? === marseillai [n=mars_@AMarseille-256-1-104-25.w90-10.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:10] goldenear: I have an intel hda. what's up? [03:15] jdong: so I guess you have the same problem [03:15] goldenear: what problem? I just came in [03:15] capture control in kmix as no effect [03:16] but capture volume control in alsamixer works === Tonio_ [n=tonio@6.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:19] goldenear: i think i have found the bug [03:19] really ? [03:19] the curprit is that the capture device is tagged as canCapture and canRecord [03:20] but the mixer is only added if (canCapture && !canRecord) [03:21] seems logical [03:21] lets see if it works when i comment this out :) [03:21] Riddell: I just notices about:konqueror went back to media:/ with your packages [03:21] Riddell: the very strange thing is that the patch is still there and applies correctly.... [03:21] Riddell: any idea what got wrong ? [03:21] yes .. now i have all the mixers twice but one does work indeed.. :) [03:22] :) [03:22] Riddell: I don't understand how that's possible [03:23] the patch is kubuntu_73_nomediaioslave_mounthelper.diff [03:23] nuku: not very easy to fix.. [03:24] capture control have to be managed differently than others then... [03:25] an other possibility to fix this would be to set capture volume = capture source volume [03:26] I mean if mic is selected for capture, then the mic volume control would set the capture volume control too. [03:26] (and then it become useless to display the cature mixer is kmix) [03:29] hmm. well alsamixer does handle this in another way here.. mic volume does not have a slider just an capture flag.. the mic volume is only affected in playback... [03:29] who do I subscribe to UVFe's? [03:29] jdong: ubuntu-archive [03:30] mm, maybe that's wrong actually [03:30] Riddell: thanks [03:30] mdz and kamion [03:30] the wiki's down... [03:30] ok === claydoh [n=clay@216.220.229.15] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:31] nuku: the same for me... mic volume in alsamixer (and kmix) has only effect on playback === jdong asks in #u-d just to be sure [03:32] That's why I suggest it could have effect on capture when mic is selected as capture source [03:33] jdong: universe or main? [03:33] Riddell: main [03:33] ktorrent [03:34] ubuntu-release [03:34] that's the dudes [03:34] k [03:34] but also make sure you tell me the bug number too [03:34] Riddell: bug 65066 [03:34] Malone bug 65066 in ktorrent "UVF Exception Request: ktorrent 2.0.3" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/65066 [03:34] goldenear: well problem might be that other cards may allow setting a capture volume for mic.... so its not really easy to handle.. [03:34] look ok to you, Riddell? [03:35] goldenear: so matching alsamixer might be the cleanest solution i guess.... [03:36] nuku: indeed [03:36] jdong: do you have debs to test? [03:36] Riddell: building them as we speak [03:40] jdong: 2.0.3 for Dapper or Edgy ? [03:40] Ahh, I'd guess Edgy since you requested UVF [03:41] Hawkwind: first for edgy, then definitely I'll backport it to dapper [03:43] grr, have to update my edgy pbuilder [03:43] stupid development release :) [03:45] hey now. the newer kernel is good :) [03:46] yes,. but the constant need to refresh my pbuilder is not :) [03:47] my system boots now, and doesnt regularly overheat quite so badly. i'm not complaining. [03:47] hehe [03:47] Edgy's gonna be a nice release [03:48] grr, KSS doesn't remember my DPMS timeout [03:48] across logouts [03:48] the bug's in malone [03:48] a fix is apparently committed [03:48] kss? [03:48] kde system settings [03:48] guidance, actually [03:48] the display tool [03:48] I set a timeout of 2 minutes, logout, and it turns into 2 hours [03:48] then it turns into 5 hours [03:48] :) [03:49] my computer wastes a bit more power each time I log in! [03:49] yay [03:49] k, breakfast time [03:49] will come back when shiny new ktorrent builds [03:50] ah [03:50] and please tell me I'm not going crazy and it's actually a bug in guidance :) [03:51] you're going crazy. === n8k99 [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:58] jdong: i have that bug too [03:58] abattoir: awesome (in the sense that I'm not psycho) [03:58] :P [04:01] Riddell: I'm uploading a tarball with source and deb packages for ktorrent 2.0.3 to the UVFe [04:01] I'm testing them now , and they work great for me [04:02] if others want to help me test it out, that'd be great [04:02] should show up on bug 65066 as soon as it finishes uploading [04:02] Malone bug 65066 in ktorrent "UVF Exception Request: ktorrent 2.0.3" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/65066 [04:02] which would be now :) [04:03] hmpf === claydoh just fifnshed compiling the source [04:03] such time and effort i wasted :) [04:04] but I will test your deb post haste [04:07] sorry claydoh :) [04:07] claydoh: I already said earlier that I was building them :D [04:07] don't be shoulda figgered someone would be on this [04:08] pluys I didn't check in here === jdong testing Sabayon 3.1 download, 35K up and down [04:08] perfect [04:09] there's not terribly much groundbreaking in the new point release [04:09] most of the important fixes I've already isolated as 2.0.2-0ubuntu2 [04:09] but there is a private tracker cheating bug that's been fixed in 2.0.3 [04:09] really annoying if you belong to one of those private trackers === claydoh knods knowingly [04:12] xeros: are you doing some sort of weird query thing? [04:16] koffice needs testing ** deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/not-koffice-16/ edgy main [04:16] lol [04:17] not-koffice-16 [04:17] something like koffice-16-developers-only might work better [04:17] or even koffice-16.broken.and.will.delete.data :) === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-056-210-048.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:32] Riddell: testing koffice [04:34] Riddell: any idea if kde uvf er will be accepted ? just to know :) [04:34] jdong: koffice-16-on-crack :P [04:34] hehe [04:34] Tonio_: we need to wait for mdz to wake up [04:35] Riddell: try calling him :P [04:35] Riddell: hehe [04:36] koffice seems good to me [04:36] Riddell: yes, except I now have 3 krita entries in kmenu :) [04:36] one in graphics, and two in office [04:37] I have one in graphics and one in office [04:38] i have two in graphics and one in office :) [04:40] nuku: hehe :) [04:40] Riddell: looks like there is 2 different desktop files, since the desc is different [04:41] Krita? [04:41] there was commit related to it [04:42] SVN commit 594164 by berger: make krita appears in the "open with" menu and appears only once in the kmenu [04:42] this was in 1.6 branch [04:44] Riddell: the "shouldn't be there file" is kde-krita_jpeg.desktop [04:44] this is the one that appears twice in the menus here [04:45] Riddell: /usr/share/applnk/Office/krita_jpeg.desktop [04:46] those should be installed to .hidden gategory iirc [04:47] Tm_T: even more simple, patching the desktop file to hide [04:47] Hidden=true [04:48] wasn't it NoDisplay=true? [04:49] nuku: both work [04:49] i see [04:49] nuku: but yeah, the common way is NoDisplay [04:51] Tonio_: heh, that works too :p [04:51] Tm_T: hehe, yes, that's a kde secret, but shhhhh, nobody should know !!! [04:52] I just think Hidden is more logic and simple [04:53] imbrandon are you there ? [04:54] yes Hidden sounds more intuitive :) [05:01] Riddell: http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/24 [05:01] Riddell: in case you want the patch :) [05:02] others krita_*.desktop have the NoDisplay tag [05:03] haha, just read jono bacon story ;) [05:04] amazing that joining a channel can result a d-line on freenode === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mambru [n=franjesu@193.147.143.7] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hawkwind [n=SoS@ulteo/community-leader/Hawkwind] has joined #Kubuntu-Devel [05:22] Tonio_: ? [05:22] Tonio_: where what story? [05:23] Tm_T: on planet ubuntu [05:24] I see, read it too ;) -> [05:27] Tm_T: fancy testing this ? -> #asdfg [05:27] hehe [05:28] can any kmail imap users do me a favour and start an email then save it as a draft and tell me if it saves in the imap drafts folder and local drafts aswell? [05:28] seaLne: one sec [05:28] seaLne: local [05:29] it saves it in the imap drafts aswell for me, strange [05:29] do you have a drafts folder defined in your identity? [05:29] seaLne: nope [05:30] mine is set to be on imap [05:30] identity-> modify -> advanced -> drafts folder === Hawkwind [n=SoS@ulteo/community-leader/Hawkwind] has joined #Kubuntu-Devel [05:33] _Sime: ping (for when you're arround) [05:34] seaLne: works here as it should be... drafts are only stored in the imap folder [05:34] weird [05:35] seaLne: KMail Version 1.9.5 btw [05:35] ah i'm still 1.9.4 [05:36] it will be interesting to see if that makes a difference as this has happened previously for me === DaSkreech [n=skreech@196.1.142.242] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:38] seaLne: http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/3_5_5/kdepim.txt can't find anything related there .. [05:40] i think if it is fixed its just something weird that causes it [05:41] at least its better than loosing the mail at all :) [05:42] yep :) === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:11] Is the kate crash fixed, if so, where are the packages now? :-) [06:12] yes, packages at not-kde-355 [06:13] you have to delete your cache and use --reinstall [06:13] roger [06:14] yes? [06:15] hmm, ok, was that crash involved to file starting with empty line? [06:15] cause I had just crash, everything was ok until I clicked line with text :p === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh is now known as \sh_away [06:23] Heya === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@23.8-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm238.omega16.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:29] Hi bddebian [06:30] Heya DaSkreech [06:31] When's UDS Mountainview exactly? [06:32] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UbuntuDeveloperSummitMountainView [06:33] thx! [06:46] thx4repo@riddell, too [06:47] sebas: which one? === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm238.omega16.maxonline.com.sg] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [06:47] not-kde-355 === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:51] Riddell: talking about that, I contacted canonical's agent, but didn't receive any response yet.... I will have to make my own arrangement, probably === Dinofly [n=dinofly@vbo91-1-82-238-217-179.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm238.omega16.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === doelman [n=doelman@dsl-46015.solcon.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:18] sebas: seen bug 64978? We should probably be more conservative regarding the choosen battery icon... [07:18] Malone bug 64978 in kde-guidance "powermanager icon sometimes shows fully charged when not" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64978 [07:20] sebas: any ideas on memory leak issue - see bug 64969 [07:20] Malone bug 64969 in kde-guidance "kde-guidance-powermanager applet leaks memory rapidly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64969 === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm238.omega16.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:27] Lure: I agree that we should use the full battery icon only when we're really near-full [07:27] And now with your explanation, I finally understand the point of this BR [07:27] sebas: ok, I can change this [07:27] Sure, go ahead. [07:27] I was thinking about the same. === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:28] Note that my notebook sometimes finishes at 98% with loading, and that's desirable behaviour [07:28] If I unplug it at 100% and then replug it at 98%, it should not start loading again, since that would wear out the battery too much with too little benefit [07:28] sebas: yes, this is why I would to 5% less then the battery icon level (55 for 60, 95 for 100, 35 for 40...) [07:28] So I gues > 95% is a good choice [07:28] And then stretch the middle field some more [07:29] sebas: but we cannot control charging/dischaging - this is done by HW [07:29] going red at 38% is overdone as well (that's > 1h on my notebook) [07:29] No, we can't indeed. [07:29] My point was that 98% is 'full enough' for the full icon [07:29] sebas: right [07:31] I'll have a look now if I can find anything that could cause the memleak (are we appending to some list endlessly in the poll code? for example) [07:33] sebas: another point - we never display empty battery at all as we have it at 2%, which is probably below critical level (when most have auto hibernate on) [07:33] Lure: Ah, right. [07:33] Do that <10%, maybe? [07:34] sebas: I am thinking about 20% for red and 7-10% for empty [07:34] maybe even 5 would be better than 2 as it is now [07:35] sebas: you laptop goes red on 38%? in code it is 20%...? [07:35] Lure: 18% then ;) [07:35] Too early anyway, I've 4hrs [07:36] sebas: ok, then lets try 5 (empty) and 15 (red) [07:36] Sounds good === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh_ [n=clay@216-220-245-10.midmaine.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:46] Lure: Change looks good [07:46] And it feels even better =) [07:47] sebas: funny is that I did not notice it until I read the report today ;-) - it looks like we are looking into powermanger too much ;-) [07:48] Lure: I had a feeling of it not being quite what I want, but did not really consider it because it would not be mathematically correct [07:48] This way it makes much more sense === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:50] Lure: pychecker is quite nice, btw. [07:51] sebas: newer used it for powermanager yet, but I know as I am pushing my developers at work to use it ;-) [07:51] Lure: If did a quick check, but I'm hesitant to fix lots of warnings right before a release [07:52] I'll do a later run and fix things, after Edgy is out [07:52] Maybe we can even integrate it into the EBN [07:52] sebas: I would fix the obvious ones and we can get some testers from svn in this channel [07:53] Lure: I didn't see anything critical, some dead code, some warnings, lots of crap in dcopext :-) [07:53] <_Sime> Tonio_: pong === Lure is checking... [07:53] I'm afk for a bit [07:54] sebas: true, not much to be concerned too much... [07:55] anybody here knows how can I get rights to change Importance of bugs (at least for some packages like kde-guidance, kdeadmin, knetworkmanager...) [07:55] _Sime: Sunday's my birthday, drop in for a drink if you've time :) [07:55] <_Sime> seaLne: 30? [07:55] <_Sime> sebas: 30? [07:56] (That goes for everyone here, actually, though I doubt many live in an acceptable distance to drop by ) [07:56] _Sime: Hm, 30 yeah :D [07:56] I'm not realising this yet [07:56] <_Sime> sebas: I thought you were a little bit closer to my age... [07:56] _Sime: Which is how much exactly? [07:57] <_Sime> sebas: Are you going away for the weekend? [07:57] <_Sime> sebas: I'm 9 months old than you. [07:57] Don't think so, I planned to go to Stuttgart but I prefer some time at home after all the travelling lately [07:57] _Sime: That's *nothing* :D [07:58] Lure: members of ubuntu-qa can do that [07:58] Uhm, Saturday is my birthday, the 14th [07:58] I'm off for a bit now, laters! === Ingmar [n=ingmar@23.8-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:59] trappist: thanks - have joined, hope I get accepted (is there any page how to get accepted)? === Ingmar is now known as Ingmar^ === claydoh [n=clay@216-220-245-10.midmaine.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:03] sebas: what is your feeling about bug 64053? should we workaround for this user? (for example, my noname desktop properly claims "desktop") [08:03] Malone bug 64053 in kde-guidance "does not recognize ibook as a laptop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64053 [08:04] Lure: you get sfflaw (there's one other guy who can do it, I forget his name) to bless you [08:05] trappist: sfflaw does it dh... can do it but normally he sends people to sfflaw [08:06] Lure: you'll be expected to have read, understood, accepted, meditated on and embraced https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/CommonTasks [08:06] trappist: I have done this in Dapper time... === Lure reading latest version... [08:13] Lure: How about we do something like if formfactor == "laptop" or powermanage.hasBattery(): ... ? [08:14] sebas: that is probably better, only problem is when battery is not present (temporarily) [08:17] Lure: Hm, dunno [08:17] Check for more "laptop-specific items"? [08:17] Such as hasAC ? [08:19] sebas: I would not trust hasAC (see also bug 64933) [08:19] Malone bug 64933 in kde-guidance "Tooltip when on battery" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64933 [08:19] :/ [08:20] We cannot trust HAL [08:20] to all: any user here with machine that reports anything else as "laptop" or "desktop" when executing "lshal | grep formfactor" [08:20] particularly ppc users... === sebas off for a bit again [08:21] Lure, my ppc says 'unknown' [08:21] imbrandon: laptop or desktop or server ;-)? [08:21] laptop ( ibook ) [08:21] imbrandon: so you can confirm bug 64053 [08:21] Malone bug 64053 in kde-guidance "does not recognize ibook as a laptop" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64053 [08:22] imbrandon: lshal |g ac|g adapter ? [08:23] alias g="grep" of course [08:23] true [08:23] Good. [08:23] and confirmed Lure === claydoh [n=clay@216-220-236-233.midmaine.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:33] Riddell: what is the proper way of getting kopete 0.12.2 for dapper? i can see the source in dapper-backports, but not the binaries. [08:34] imbrandon: what is output of "lshal | grep ac_adapter [08:39] sorry was afk one sec [08:39] fdoving, its in binary NEW ( but i have it in my repo if you wish to have it ) deb http://imbrandon.com/packages dapper kopete [08:40] imbrandon, i know you have it, i just have a message in my awaylog, by riddel, saying i told some-guy the totaly wrong way of getting kopete 0.12.2.. and i gave him your repo. [08:41] that was for dapper that is. [08:41] lure , ac_adapter.present = true , info.capabilities and info.category [08:41] fdoving, ahh [08:42] fdoving: urg, I think I need to request a re-backport of kopete [08:42] he was a reporter for tuxmagazine.org, so i'm sorry if he published the repo links without contacting you. i told him it would be a good idea to ask you before publishing though. [08:42] jdong: probably :) [08:42] fdoving: that backport was done when the infrastructure was half-broken.... [08:42] jdong, no its backported , its just in binary NEW [08:42] so I think the binaries ended up in a black hole :) [08:43] imbrandon: I asked kamion a while back to take them out of binary new [08:43] and he said that he did it [08:43] and it's still not there [08:43] anyway, that needs to be followed up on [08:44] well its still there, i'm looking right at it [08:44] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+queue [08:44] imbrandon: ah, ok, I didn't know that existed in LP [08:44] oh btw the packages.ubuntu.com page is missing the dapper-backports in the distribution dropdown box :) [08:45] nuku: I've poked him about it before, and he didn't respond... maybe you should try :) [08:45] nuku, cool , and i'm sure you filed a bug against ubuntu-web right ? hehe [08:46] imbrandon: can you be my ktorrent uploader? :) [08:46] imbrandon: bug 65066 [08:46] Malone bug 65066 in ktorrent "UVF Exception Request: ktorrent 2.0.3" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/65066 [08:46] just approved [08:46] erm actually i did not file a bug.. just happend to see it some time ago but as i am using edgy now i forgot about it ;) [08:47] nuku, https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-website/+filebug [08:47] jdong, sure i will get to it tonight , DO NOT ASK 2 PEOPLE THIS TIME PLEASE [08:47] LOL [08:48] assign the bug to yourself so we don't run into that again :) [08:48] I didn't actually ask the second person last time.... he kind of found it on his own :) [08:49] heh, ok , i'm off for 3 hours or so, bbian [08:49] bbiab* [08:51] see you. [08:51] fdoving: it should be backports [08:52] if it's not there we need to poke jdong [08:52] ok, he knows about it now. === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.120.144] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:52] Riddell: I've poked kamion about it.. it's in the NEW queue [08:52] i guess the TUX guys are better off with imbrandons packages than compiling from backports sources. [08:53] fdoving, ah yea i talked to the TUX reporter directly [08:53] imbrandon, good :) [08:53] i set him up witht the backports way [08:53] it will be out of the NEW que by the time its published [08:54] jdong: didn't know backports had a n queue [08:54] i thought you wanted it "right now" [08:54] i thought -he- wanted it "right now". [08:54] Riddell, yea it gets stuck in BINARY new [08:54] in dapper [08:55] Riddell, see konversation , libvisual, etc etc etc are all still stuck https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+queue === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.120.144] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.120.144] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:00] imbrandon: humph [09:00] anyone know way to disable that "The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:" etc from apt-get, it's just extra noise I don't need [09:01] rather have it behind separate command [09:01] sudo apt-get autoclean [09:01] ;) [09:01] Riddell, my thoughts exactly, i just realized it today [09:01] autoremove rather [09:01] noo, I won't do that [09:01] nixternal, yea but alot of those i still want, mine reports xorg ;) [09:02] exactly [09:02] doh [09:02] mine took kubuntu desktop..so i just reinstalled it [09:02] that fixed a lot of bugs of mine too [09:02] hehe [09:02] linux-headers-2.6.17-9 linux-headers-2.6.17-9-generic python-libxml2 python-dbus linux-generic [09:02] although i am back to pressiing alt+f7 to fire up kdm again [09:02] that what it offers to me ;) [09:02] 2.6.17-10-386 [09:03] hrmm..i love the /cmd in konversation [09:03] :p [09:03] nixternal: /exec in irssi [09:03] yup [09:03] /cmd find /? [09:03] nixternal, you should really install linux-generic [09:03] hahaha [09:03] :) [09:04] imbrandon: difference is big? [09:04] that is default with the -386 [09:04] ok really gone bbiab, yea big diff [09:04] roger that [09:04] will do now [09:04] nixternal: you should use generic [09:04] Tm_T: apt-get unmarkauto packagename' [09:04] nixternal: difference is many letters in package names ;) [09:04] hahaha [09:04] fdoving: ooh thanks [09:05] though that's only workaround [09:05] Tm_T: 'apt-mark unmarkauto packagename' that is. [09:05] i have been so busy with school crap the past 2 weeks i kind of fell off here a little bit [09:05] I can't get that list back later, right? [09:06] you can take a look at /var/lib/apt/extended_states [09:06] i'm not sure. [09:06] hmm [09:06] roger [09:06] you can always backup the file :) [09:06] =) [09:06] sounds stupid [09:06] all I want is apt-get to show them only by demand [09:07] ah.. i don't know if that is possible. [09:07] Lure: system.formfactor = 'unknown' (string) [09:07] sounds stupid [09:07] xeros: what kind of machine? [09:07] Tm_T: unmarkauto will remove the 'auto-installed' tag in /var/lib/apt/extended_states for the package. [09:07] because, haven't seen any other app screaming all the time some thing like "these you don't need anymore?!" [09:08] fdoving: yeah, so nogo [09:09] Lure: desktop - p4 ht [09:10] xeros: "lshal | grep ac_adapter" [09:10] Lure: nothing [09:11] fdoving: but thanks [09:11] xeros: good - thanks for testing this [09:11] Lure: and it's not edgy but dapper, sorry [09:11] xeros: does not make a difference really (hal is not that different) [09:12] Tm_T: no problem, i'll continue investigating this, it's very annoying when you actually use apt-get alot. (as i do). [09:12] Lure: I use dapper on desktop at home and edgy on laptop at work [09:12] 2.6.17-10-generic [09:12] whee [09:14] Tm_T: are you aware of 'apt-get remove --auto-remove ' ? will remove deps.. like aptitude does :) [09:14] Lure: it seems that my laptop with edgy is recognized properly - I used Kubuntu Device Database and it send info as laptop, power management seems to work properly there, too - it's HP compaq nx9005 with Athlon XP Mobile 2500+ (Barton) === rodrigue [n=rodrigue@lns-bzn-57-82-249-16-213.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:15] xeros: it is only problem with ppc laptops (it seems, due to missing dmidecode) and they are reported as unknown (same as your desktop) [09:18] sebas: you were right - hasBattery() is OK, as it now reports also true even if no battery is present (but there is battery bay for primary battery) - this was changed with my mult-battery refactoring === rodrigue [n=rodrigue@lns-bzn-57-82-249-16-213.adsl.proxad.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [09:18] sebas: so I will do: return properties["system.formfactor"] == "laptop" or self.hasBattery === My8os [n=My8os@ppp175-192.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #Kubuntu-devel === toma is now known as toma_ === Dinofly [n=dinofly@vbo91-1-82-238-217-179.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yveslu [n=yves@194.235.200.203] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yveslu [n=yves@194.235.200.203] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [09:56] Tm_T: there is no setting to just get rid of the message, but you can have apt-get automatically remove the packages for you, if you set APT::Get::AutomaticRemove "true"; in apt.conf :) === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@23.8-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-056-210-048.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:05] fdoving: but that's exactly what I don't want [10:06] i understand that. but i guess you'll have to make a patch for apt then :) === toma_ is now known as toma [10:19] mooh [10:20] I start to hate Kword [10:20] this is ridicolous, 1) write text 2) change font & colour settings 3) write more text 4) repeat 2 and 3 [10:20] and, without changing text colour, I'm looking white text in white background [10:20] "fun" [10:25] Bah, I give up, back to forking Kopete. -> [10:25] Tm_T: i'm looking at black text in a black bg ;) [10:26] Tm_T: hi, btw :P [10:26] hey :) [10:29] hmm, abattoir, like to test something? [10:29] Tm_T: sure, what? [10:30] abattoir: open files in kate, close, reopen it and see if those files appear in "Open recent" list [10:32] Tm_T: yes, they work as expected here [10:32] hmh [10:33] Tm_T: i have 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 [10:35] same ofcourse [10:35] abattoir: check package date from /var/cache/apt/archives/ [10:36] Tm_T: i dont think i'd have the packages from not-kde... if it was updated there [10:36] abattoir: iirc it is updated there [10:37] 2006-10-04 21:28 says mine [10:37] Tm_T: i'm sure mine is after that, let me double-check [10:37] 05-10 02:28 [10:38] weird [10:38] (DD-MM HH:MM ofcourse) [10:38] hh:mm rather :P [10:42] everyone has access to not-kde-355? or do you need to have your IP in a list or something? [10:46] <_Sime> So, will Edgy get KDE 3.5.5? [10:46] abattoir: iirc no [10:50] _Sime: not sure yet - I think Riddell is waiting for approval from mdz [11:03] Lure: I got it, I'll upload tonight [11:03] Riddell: great [11:05] approval for 3.5.5? [11:05] then maybe i should stop compiling on the ibook :) [11:06] imbrandon: how did your crosscompiling project go? === orkid__ [n=orkid__@bas1-barrie18-1242377856.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.231.224] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rouzic [n=rouzic@187.Red-83-39-21.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:14] Riddell: mdz approved kopete, I'm uploading it [11:21] gah [11:21] tonio ....... [11:21] bah never mind [11:23] so nice of him to check the channel log and/or bug report that he scorned me about last time === imbrandon grumbles [11:24] imbrandon: Just checking what happened with podcasts? [11:24] DaSkreech, me and sladen been super busy with other things [11:24] Cool As expected :) [11:25] they will resume probbably after edgy's release [11:26] jdong, query [11:26] fdoving, good actualy, i got it all working ( mostly ) [11:26] fdoving, sometime tonight i'll post some details on my blog [11:27] nice. [11:27] looking forward to it :) [11:27] i just got in and am catching up on mail etc === NeoChaosX [n=nael@sjs-130-65-104-217.sjsu.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apokryphos [n=apokryph@87-194-86-227.bethere.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:34] gnite. === pascalFR [i=GFUoeCMA@cha92-7-82-230-174-61.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure_ [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel