zamclaudio_: you need to install codecs win32 codecs ffmpg etc ....12:12
VanessaEintel: did you find anything else that looked like it could be the nvidia.ko module?12:12
claudio_zam xmms works12:12
SanneLjL: I don't like the backticks, because they are in such an obscure location on my keyboard. ;)12:12
intelikeyi can modprobe nvidia_agp   and it is now inserted  but that didn't change the error on startx12:12
VanessaEintel: naw, it has to be nvidia12:13
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VanessaEnvidia_agp I think is their equiv of agpgart12:13
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slow_motionhow to install file transfer plug in in kopete???12:13
VanessaEif all else fails, do what I did; grab the driver from nvidia.com and install it the 'normal' way :)12:13
intelikeyagpgart is using nvidia-agp  so yes probably12:13
intelikeyVanessaE what about  /lib/linux-restricted-modules/2.6.15-23-386/nvidia/nvidia.mod.o ?12:14
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VanessaEnope, that's a kernel 2.4 module12:14
VanessaE(or a piece of unlinked code)12:14
VanessaE(wtf is that doing in a 2.6.* tree?)12:14
ubotusylpheed: Light weight e-mail client with GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.4-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 551 kB, installed size 1376 kB12:14
intelikeyok i'll modprobe12:15
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VanessaEdapper right?12:16
VanessaEI wonder if..  thought I saw something about an alternative name for that package..12:16
LjLSanne: they aren't even *there* on my keyboard... except the keyboard layout i use is actually different from what's printed on the keyboard ;)12:16
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VanessaEhm, maybe not.12:18
intelikeyi followed the wiki except for one point in the prerequsites.   it said "you need 3d acceleration"  i don't but thought i'd install the driver anyway.12:18
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VanessaEstrange, that *should* work.12:19
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VanessaEonly thing I can think of is if the restricted-modules package didn't actually supply the nvidia driver (or all of it)12:20
VanessaEare you opposed to using the 'official' nvidia package?12:20
intelikeynot really.   just wanted to see if all the "whining" about the wiki was valid or not...12:20
intelikeyit is.12:21
VanessaENot sure if what I'm looking at is the one you're talking about, but this one does get kinda convoluted.12:21
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:22
intelikeythat link  ^12:22
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SanneLjL: heh :) In any case, I welcome their deprecation (is that a word?).12:22
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VanessaEoh, nope, I'm seeing a different one (http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper)12:22
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cipher!adept crash12:22
ubotuadept: package manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 3752 kB, installed size 10988 kB12:22
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LjLSanne: think so :)12:22
ciphermy adept crash.. how to repair?12:22
hansapt-get -f install12:23
claudio_I need skype12:23
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire12:23
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto12:24
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hansapt-get install skype; if not possible, activate the universe repositories in your sources.list...12:24
VanessaEhm...frostwire?  *bite*12:24
VanessaElooks like a direct clone of limewire...I like :)12:25
axelfrostwire works hard on linux same as limewire12:25
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claudio_how can I enable universe repositoers?12:25
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:26
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claudio_where is the file that I must edit?12:26
LjLit's /etc/apt/sources.list12:26
VanessaEclaudio_, /etc/apt/sources.list12:26
slow_motionhow to install file transfer plug in in kopete??? please can somebody help me??12:26
intelikeyclaudio_ /etc/apt/sources.list12:26
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arepiedoes anybody knows how to check my PCI bus is?12:27
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intelikeyclaudio_ sed 's/main*/main restricted universe multiverse/g' /etc/apt/sources.list          :)12:28
VanessaEaww it's still java...well at least it runs :)12:28
VanessaEarpie: busid's can be found with lspci12:28
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VanessaEthe first column in the listing shows the busid for eash device.12:28
claudio_intelikey: what I must modify in sources.list?12:28
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intelikeyclaudio_ sed 's/main*/main restricted universe multiverse/g'12:29
claudio_what is?12:29
intelikeyall lines with main*      to    main restricted universe multiverse       where * == anything.12:29
LjLintelikey: should be "s/main.*/etc/g", but anyway :P12:30
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excitatorywhen ripping cds on linux, how do you all handle the pregaps since cdparanoia doesn't support pregap detection?12:30
LjLintelikey: "*" alone just means "the previous character, repeated zero or more times". so that expression actually matches "mai" (not "main"), followed by whatever12:31
intelikeyLjL no   don't change main to etc12:31
LjLintelikey: err, no, i simply wrote "etc" to avoid rewriting the second part12:31
intelikeyoh ok12:31
intelikeyLjL and that's kinda convoluted in it's own rite.    sed should have used * where . is   or something....12:33
claudio_have you seen?12:33
claudio_have you seen?12:33
tony_whats the best Html,css,php ..etc IDE for linux ?12:34
tony_even commercial one12:34
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VanessaEclaudio_, See those two lines (27,28) that are commented out?12:36
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VanessaEuncomment them.12:36
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LjLintelikey: well, that's standard regular expressions... "." indicates "any character", and "*" indicates "the previous character repeated zero or more times" ("+" indicates "the previous char, one or more times")12:36
zamcan any one help with this erorr pleases "A problem occur while loading a library or a decoder: divxc32.dll"    ?12:36
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LjLintelikey: actually, you can just scrap the whole * stuff and just write s/main/whatever, since it's implied that "main" can be preceeded and followed by anything12:36
Sannetony_: 'best' is a matter of taste... some like quanta, some like bluefish, some just use a text editor with syntax highlighting.12:36
zamCVirus: you are here man12:37
VanessaE..and some use a text editor *without* syntax highlighting ;)12:37
tony_well, im not into text editor. im not very well verse with php and stuff. but didn't l ike blue fish ..12:37
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LjLi use cat12:37
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CViruszam: yes ?12:37
SanneVanessaE: really? How could they live throught that? ;)12:37
claudio_VanessaE: yes12:37
VanessaEsanne: very carefully, and by staying about 10 years behind current web trends :)12:38
SanneVanessaE: lol ;)12:38
tony_dose Quanta PHP ..12:38
zamalipheCVirus: i have install kubuntu but i cant run any video fills12:38
VanessaEclaudio_, remove the leading "#" from those two lines, re-save, and then do a  sudo apt-get update12:38
VanessaEwhatever it is you're looking for in multiverse should then become available.12:38
CVirus!restricted formats12:39
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:39
CViruszamaliphe: ^12:39
CViruszamaliphe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats12:39
zamalipheCVirus: yes i guess12:39
draik_Where do I find/get the special characters... characters with accents and such12:39
Sannetony_: I heard good things about quanta, try it out, it should be apt-gettable. I think you should learn those languages, though, if you plan to use them.12:39
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VanessaEmy husband uses quanta, it seems to work ok for him12:39
tony_zamaliphe::: the best audio /video player that i found for both linux and window , is VLC.. is avalible trough adept12:39
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zamaliphetony_: i like kaffeine12:40
LjLintelikey: or even... you could make that sed "s/deb(.*)main.*/deb\1main restricted universe multiverse/" (didn't test)12:40
draiksuch as a' e' i' o' u' n~ and such12:40
VanessaExine works ok for me (but I had to roll my own, default build doesn't support win32codecs)12:40
VanessaE(or dvdcss)12:40
tony_kaffeine wont play all format ..unless you have to install codec.. but VLC dose that very easy12:40
LjLintelikey: that should avoid modifying commented lines (and the word "main" appears in some of the standard Ubuntu sources.list), as well as avoid repeating the "restricted universe multiverse" stuff in lines that already have it12:41
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claudio_VanessaE: i done12:41
claudio_but nothing12:41
excitatorytony_: also look into nvu .. similar to dreamweaver in many ways, but more simple and cleaner..   slightly less powerful, but still nice.12:41
VanessaEclaudio: what exactly did you do and got nothing from?12:41
tony_yes.. i think NVU is nice.. i have to read more about it though..12:42
claudio_I uncommented those two lines12:42
claudio_i saved12:42
claudio_apt-get update12:42
VanessaEok, good12:42
claudio_apt-get install skype12:42
VanessaEI didn't catch that before - last I knew skype was not in the repositories.12:42
VanessaEyou have to go to the website and download the .deb from them and use dpkg to install it12:42
VanessaEhas that changed?12:43
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claudio_VanessaE: wrote: apt-get install upgrade12:44
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VanessaEthat's not how it's done12:47
VanessaEthat command would try to find a program called 'upgrade' and install it :)12:47
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claudio_VanessaE: and now?12:48
claudio_I done12:48
VanessaEwell since you want skype, you have to go to skype.com and locate the debian (or ubuntu?) package and download it12:48
alejandrouhmmm, how can I know if I'm running xorg? =/12:49
claudio_doen't matter that I installed updrade?12:49
VanessaEalejandro, you're running xorg. :)12:49
VanessaE(ubuntu doens't use xf86)12:49
alejandrohehe, yeah, but I installed xgl and I have no clue if it's working12:49
VanessaEclaudio: nope, doesn't matter - that should have errored out12:49
alejandroor xgl is part of xorg?12:49
alejandro(i have no idea about it)12:49
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VanessaEeh, don't know about xgl :)12:50
intelikeyok.  i'm back.12:50
VanessaEwb intel.  any luck with nvidia?12:50
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intelikeyi think i will try this   http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html    from method two on the page you mentioned VanessaE12:50
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VanessaEclaudio: go here:   http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/      and download the "Debian package (9.6 MB)"12:51
jaHi folks. I'm trying to follow the instructions here http://swem.wm.edu/blogs/waynegraham/index.cfm/2006/8/17/Improving-Ubuntu-GUI-Resposiveness12:51
pointwoodhas it been decided when edgy eft is going to be released other than something this month?12:52
snook353i made a deb with alien.  where should i put it?  where are the rest of the debs?12:52
intelikeyi'm on dialup so things can get bogged down if i'm dl'ing  anything.      it takes all my band-narrowness12:52
VanessaEintel: that's how I do it12:52
jabut the command "sudo modprobe speedstep-centrino" doesn't work. Should this not be in the repository?12:52
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VanessaEintel: a friend of mine calls it "bandnarrowth" :)12:52
BonBonTheJonsnook353: do 'sudo dpkg -i package'12:52
snook353ok, thanks again bonbonthejon12:52
VanessaEpointwood, think someone said 26 Oct.12:52
pointwoodokay, thanks12:53
LjLwell, that's what the schedule says12:53
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VanessaEsnook: after you install the package as BonBon showed, feel free to store the .deb wherever you like12:53
VanessaE(I use /data/Software as a semi-permanent archive)12:54
snook353ok, thanks.  i was gonna ask.  i remember to save it.  vanessae12:54
intelikeyyou dsl/cable/wireless guys have bandwidth   us dialupers have only bandnarrowness12:54
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VanessaEheh...  compared to what I've heard others say about dsl...mine can be called bandnarrowth also :-/12:54
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Sanneja: modprobe means you're about to load a kernel module (driver). Are you sure you have the corresponding hardware?12:55
VanessaE(3 Mbps is beginning to look pretty slow compared to the 15 Mbps that's available here now)12:55
intelikeypointwood i do a dist-upgrade about two times a week...12:55
pointwoodintelikey: well, I meant upgrading from dapper to eft :)12:55
pointwoodare you doing that two times a week? :)12:56
intelikeyyeah  but just remember 56k VanessaE and you will feel like your 3m fly's12:56
VanessaEoh I remember alright :)12:56
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VanessaEI remember my 300 bps days a little too well..12:56
pointwoodI'm still waiting for fiber :(12:57
intelikeypointwood no.    but i did coin the phrase.  reload twice a week whether you need to or not.... :)12:57
pointwoodshould get it before christmas though12:57
pointwood10/10Mbit should be possible to live with for some time :)12:57
BonBonTheJonpointwood: what benefit is there to dist-upgrade compared to just upgrade12:57
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jaSanne: I'm not 100% sure, but my bios does have a CPU scaling option.12:58
VanessaEdist-upgrade occasionally picks up program updates that just 'update' misses12:58
intelikeyBonBonTheJon venella upgrade doesn't update the system files  dist-upgrade does.12:59
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intelikeyi thought i saw a fowlduck01:00
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Sanneja: hmmm... well, firstly, I would make really sure those commands won't affect my system negatively, but maybe you did that already. As for the modprobe, if the module is not found, that means it isn't compiled and available for your kernel, or it is available but not installed by default.01:01
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snook353stardict without gnome won't run in KDE :(  i Luv stardict :(01:02
jaSanne: okay, thanks. Maybe I'll leave it. I'm just happy to have removed powernowd because my system was performing poorly with it.01:02
Sanneja: ok, sorry I can't help more... I'm just a voice of caution, usually ;)01:03
jaSanne: Well, it was helpful caution :) thank you.01:04
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Sanneja: heh, you're welcome01:04
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khirrwhat is the version of opera that i should use?01:09
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MotorCityMadManhello: ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the Macromedia Flash Player installer. is there a fix ?01:09
khirrkubuntu 6.06 AMD6401:09
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gnomefreakkhirr: 9.xx01:10
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intelikeyhehhe on second thought i do have something against using the nvidia drivers....   namely the license !01:10
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khirrbut, i downloaded ubuntu version, but i cant install01:10
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser01:10
khirrwhat's the way to install?01:10
felixjetcan someone help me with the sound plz? dont works :(01:10
gnomefreak^^^ khirr01:10
intelikeywell looks like i wont use nvidia after all.01:11
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gnomefreakkhirr: its simple all you have to do is open add/remove and choose show commericial apps01:11
intelikeykhirr   --display01:11
gnomefreakthan pick it and install it01:12
felixjeti dont have sound but, on system config -> sound. when i click on the button to "test sound" i heard it. but i can heard anything from apps01:12
khirri'm reading, thanks01:12
gnomefreakintelikey: good luck with 3d accel i even think intel drivers are non-free01:12
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intelikeygnomefreak i don't do 3d anyway01:12
gnomefreakah ok01:12
intelikeyso it's not like i'll miss it.01:13
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intelikeyin face i seldom do X01:13
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intelikeyface the fact    :)01:13
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Sannekhirr: if you're on AMD64, you won't find Opera in the repositories. Proprietary software mostly isn't available yet for 64bit systems. But in this forum thread there's some help for getting 32bit programs installed on 64bit systems, including help for Opera: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19120501:16
alainanyone knows about artsd, it does not work for me01:17
gnomefreakSanne: chroot will do it01:17
alaini get a cpu overload error01:17
RobNYC_Edgy is so nice01:17
gnomefreakits alot of work its easier to install 32bit :)01:17
Sannegnomefreak: well, I managed to avoid a chroot so far for my 32bit apps.01:17
gnomefreakSanne: good job ;)01:18
gnomefreakalain: dapper?01:18
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Sannegnomefreak: not really, I just followed instructions. The actual work was finding those instructions ;)01:18
alaingnomefreak no, edgy01:18
alainin dapper it worked01:19
gnomefreakalain: i think its a known issue im waiting on them to give me backtrace of arts01:19
khirrin opera web site, should i download ubuntu version or debian version?01:19
gnomefreakalain: you see it using amarok?01:19
gnomefreakkhirr: ubuntu01:19
alainso you also have this issue?01:19
gnomefreakalain: nope :)01:19
Sannekhirr: did you read what I wrote?01:20
gnomefreakalain: i dont have issues if i do i fix them in a day or two :)01:20
khirrrepository doesnt foond01:20
gnomefreakkhirr: are you on 64bit01:20
gnomefreakkhirr: you cant install opera nomrally01:20
gnomefreakkhirr: please read what users type to you01:20
khirr:O, i didnt see that01:22
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khirrthanks Sanne01:22
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Sannekhirr: I think, this thread details the problems and possible solutions, I think: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7594001:22
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khirri'll read now, thanks01:22
alaingnomefreak if i leave in the sound system settings the 'select audio device' to autodetect, my system stops responding shortly and then I get a cpu overload error, no audio works01:22
Sannekhirr: you're welcome, good luck :)01:23
alainif I manually select open sound system, everything works01:23
gnomefreakalain: hmmmmmmm01:23
alainappearently it can't correctly detect...01:23
alainas I said in 6.06 it worked, and in ubuntu it works too01:24
alainso I would say its a bug in artsd01:24
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intelikeyah i see new updates for   cpio openssl python2.401:26
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alaingnomefreak known bug or shall I file one01:27
gnomefreakalain: file one with all the ifo you can01:27
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/01:28
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alain...can't find artsd package in the bugtracker... where do i put it?01:28
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gnomefreakalain: i wanna say kdelibs but im not sure ont hat01:29
gnomefreakalain: you can pick i dont know ;)01:29
alainok :)01:30
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khirrOPERA RUNNNN01:31
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Sannekhirr: did you pick the static deb? (I just read through the thread and the opera download options)01:32
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khirrnow, is time to change opera to spanish version :D01:33
Sannekhirr: I take that as a yes ;) So I know what to do if I should need Opera one day, thanks.01:33
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khirri've puted this line01:33
khirrsudo dpkg -i --force-architecture packagename_i386.deb01:33
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Sannekhirr: ah, I see, thanks, same as I did with wine.01:34
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felixjetwhy i cant dl alsa? apt-get autogets alsa-base instead of alsa01:34
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Sannefelixjet: there's no package called 'alsa', I think01:35
khirri've seen lots screenshots, and i liked so mucho icons, where can i find icons as them?01:36
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khirrand other question should be, how run exe files on Kubuntu :D01:36
Sannekhirr: you mean icons for KDE?01:36
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Sannefelixjet: to see all packages beginning with alsa, type: apt-cache search alsa | grep ^alsa01:37
Sannekhirr: you can search in the repositories (dunno if there are some), and also look on kde-look.org01:37
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khirri'll check the page01:38
khirrwith my opera browser :D01:38
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Sannekhirr: oh, there are some kde icon packages in universe01:39
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Sannekhirr: look: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=kde-icons&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all01:39
khirri'm cheking01:39
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khirrwhere can i see my kde version?01:41
Sannekhirr: usually in every kde program, under help/about kde01:41
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khirrother question01:44
khirrhow can i run exe files on kubuntu?01:44
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BonBonTheJonkhirr: do you mean windows exe files?01:44
Sannekhirr: you mean as in windows exe files?01:44
SanneBonBonTheJon: lol01:45
BonBonTheJonSanne: great minds think alike01:45
SanneBonBonTheJon: exactly ;)01:45
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khirri went to the bathroom :D01:45
khirrrun windows exe files01:46
Solveneqso my OpenOffice.org decided to die... what do I do?01:46
BonBonTheJonkhirr: you either need to set up wine, or set up a virtual machine01:46
alainyou need wine01:46
BonBonTheJonkhirr: what are you trying to run01:46
khirrMacromedia Flash01:46
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khirri wanna programin here, but forget Linux01:46
alainuse the linux version01:47
khirrmaybe winamp01:47
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khirrbut, always there are ptograms.exe that i'd like run01:47
khirrcan i do it?01:47
Sannekhirr: wine is also not available for amd64. You need to download the i386 deb manually and install it with --force-architecture also. It's in the first forum thread I mentioned.01:47
n8k99khirr: under wine01:47
khirrbut, with that, can i run exes?01:48
Sannekhirr: yes, wine is a compatibility layer between linux and the windows api. Some programs work. I heard that Macromedia Flash works ok.01:48
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ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.01:49
khirri'll check01:49
alainhow do I copy from KInfocenter01:49
Sannekhirr: also here, I did the manual install: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WineForAMD6401:49
m4x1mumooh so you can install software even if the architecture is different01:49
khirrnice! , for AMD64 :D01:50
m4x1mumim thinking of reinstalling linux with amd64 version01:50
khirrrun good this Linux Version01:50
khirry think, better that SuSe01:50
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m4x1mumis the performance really different between amd64 and i386 versions?01:51
Hawkwindm4x1mum: 64Bit OS's still have some issues.  It's best to stick with 32Bit a while longer01:51
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Hawkwindm4x1mum: You really don't get the full effect out of a 64Bit system unless you utilize 4GB or more of RAM and do heavy calculations and compiling and stuff like that01:52
m4x1mumooh ok01:52
billytwowillythe only issues I've found with 64 bit is that the proprietary vendors are jerks and aren't releasing stuff for that architecture.. ie flash.01:52
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HawkwindNo flash for 64bit, though no newer flash than version 7 for Linux anyways until after the first of the year when they release version 9 for Linux01:53
flavioribeirothe best thing to do is install 32bits01:53
m4x1mumi thought amd64 version is stilll 32bit OS but compiled especially for amd64 processor, like optimize the compilation01:53
billytwowillyno. it's 64 bit...01:53
KrAmMeRhas anyone install pysoulseek on their machine?01:54
m4x1mumoooww that sucks01:55
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Sannem4x1mum: If you don't mind some tinkering, install 64bit, because the more people run it, the sooner support will be better. If you want it to work out of the box mostly, you might get annoyed by 64bit, though.01:56
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m4x1mumooooh no i dont want to tinker stuff, im a newbie with linux, this is the 5th day for me to use linux :)01:56
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Sannem4x1mum: oh! Then I recommend staying a little while with 32bit, and consider switching when you are more comfortable.01:57
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Sannem4x1mum: and welcome to Linux :)01:58
m4x1mumhehe thanks!01:58
m4x1mumim still configuring my system to be as good as my windows, i havent been able to share the files with windows network yet, although the windows pc can see my shared folder but cannot access it :(01:59
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m4x1mumand the configuration is very annoying!! i always need to resize to see the administrator mode button02:00
BonBonTheJonm4x1mum: you need to do something like this http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/manual4/sambausers.html02:00
khirrhow can install one.deb02:01
khirrwhat is the command?02:01
BonBonTheJonkhirr: dpkg -i package02:01
Hawkwindkhirr: sudo dpkg -i file.deb02:01
m4x1mumis it possible to let them access without having to login?, i mean i just want to share within the network only not outside the network02:02
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khirrinstalling :D02:02
BonBonTheJonm4x1mum: its good to have some security02:03
BonBonTheJonm4x1mum: but look at http://samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/install.html02:03
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Sannem4x1mum: there's also a section on samba under Kmenu/Help/Ubuntu Server Guide.02:05
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT02:05
khirri'm trying run wine02:07
khirrbut i cant open02:07
m4x1mumoooh i want wineX :( but you have to pay02:08
khirrhow could i open one program?02:08
BonBonTheJonkhirr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine02:08
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BonBonTheJonkhirr: wine programname.exe02:09
Hawkwindkhirr: There is also #WineHQ here on Freenode where the guys hang out that know wine very well02:09
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yonkeltronwill firefox2 be in edgy?02:11
LjLguess so, since the beta is in there02:11
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule02:11
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule02:12
yonkeltrongot that02:12
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yonkeltronLjL: neat02:12
LjLwe read you02:12
hazard_Is there a livecd for kubuntu? One that isn't 688mb?02:12
hazard_Thanks LjL!02:13
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LjLuhm no, the Desktop CD is the only Live CD there is afaik02:13
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nick01hi Hawkwind :)02:13
LjLwhat's the problem? i think most CDs today can take 688megs...02:13
hazard_Not ones which hold 650.02:14
LjLdidn't even think they sold those anymore... you could still try overburning though i suppose02:14
hazard_Which for some silly reason...I have far far far to many of.02:14
yonkeltronhazard_: interesting02:14
khirri've read that wine resulte02:14
khirrbut say that couldnt create register02:14
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VanessaEmost 80 min. CD's will take roughly 702 MB (about 736 million bytes) actually...02:14
yonkeltronhazard_: write the iso to an HDD02:14
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nick01Hawkwind: I just installed mandriva 2007 yesterday and I searched for easy urpmi- found your webpage saying u defected to kubuntu - why did u do that ?02:15
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khirrinsufficient resources for operation02:15
Search4Lancerokay.... I'm having trouble copying files into a folder on an external hard drive... any ideas?02:15
LjLhazard_: yeah, save to HD and install through VMWare or something, perhaps02:15
hazard_So the installer CD is the same as the livecd right?02:15
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LjLhazard_: yeah, though there's also another "Alternate" CD which only contains a (text-mode) installer and is not "live". that might be smaller02:15
yonkeltronSearch4Lancer: trouble?02:15
VanessaEhowever, if you want to burn a 'smaller' disc, it's probably not hard...  just delete some excess packages from within the ISO file until the size is what you can deal with.02:15
hazard_I don't think it is.02:15
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khirrinsufficient resources for operation say wine when i wanna execute02:16
hazard_I think that's what I'll try, of course, knowing me, it won't be bootable anymore.02:16
hazard_Oh well, I'll figure it out.02:16
khirrone program.exe, and say that cant create register02:16
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Search4Lanceryonkeltron: yes... keeps telling me I don't have permission to, yet every time I check, the permissions are set so that the owner (same username I'm logged in as) has permission to read and write02:16
Hawkwindnick01: The addmedia pages are back up as of today in fact02:16
Hawkwindnick01: But yes, I don't run Mandriva anymore, except in a vmware install only02:16
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LjLVanessaE: well, not necessarily *that* easy, since most of the .debs aren't actually to be found as plain .debs on the CD02:17
VanessaEthey're not?02:17
VanessaEoh. :)02:17
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Search4Lancerah, it's decided to work now...02:17
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khirrMake sure that your X server is runing02:18
LjLVanessaE: no, most of the stuff is in a squashfs file i think...02:18
khirrwhat is the X server?02:18
snook353YeeHaw!  configin dict02:18
hazard_A hole of death and dispair (or the system to display the GUI)02:18
VanessaEwell hell. :)02:18
yonkeltronSearch4Lancer: pop open a terminal and tell me when ready02:18
nick01Hawkwind: so mandriva disapointed u in some way02:18
khirrplz T_T02:19
VanessaEI seem to recall that it's possible to modify the /etc/apt/sources.list after you boot the CD, point it to an online repository or three, and then set up networking/internet access02:19
Hawkwindnick01: Absolutely.  But that's pretty offtopic here.  You could join my #LFD channel if you want to discuss it further02:19
Search4Lanceryonkeltron: it's decided to work now.... however, I'm about to restart the HD because it's still caught up in something imaginary (it's playing with itself) making file transfers slow as balls02:19
VanessaEcould that squashfs bit be deleted entirely?02:19
khirrwhat is X server on wine?02:20
LjLVanessaE: i really don't think so... however, perhaps the Server CD could be a better bet02:20
VanessaEkhirr: the "x server" is not a part of Wine.  it's a part of your base OS02:20
hazard_Yea, you could do that.02:20
hazard_I think.02:20
LjLVanessaE: i guess it's smaller than the Desktop or Alternate CD02:20
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hazard_Server CD?02:20
VanessaEit's what we call xorg (formerly xfree86)02:20
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LjLhazard_: yeah, ubuntu has a server version02:20
khirrso, how can run one exe file...is show that error02:20
VanessaEthat's a good point, LjL02:20
VanessaEforgot about the server CD02:20
hazard_Ah, well, I usually use One of the debian base CDs, since I don't typically need a user interface.02:21
hazard_(horay for 40MB installer CDs!)02:21
LjLhazard_: the server cd would be sort of similar02:21
VanessaEkhirr: can you post a complete copy of the errors you are getting onto pastebin?02:21
VanessaE(from one shell prompt to the next)02:21
LjLhazard_: yeah, i wouldn't mind Ubuntu having something akin to Debian's businesscard CD02:21
Search4Lanceralright yonkeltron it's doing it again... fire away02:22
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LjLhazard_: they say you can even upgrade from debian to ubuntu. if you're brave.02:23
yonkeltronSearch4Lancer: chmod -R 777 /path/to/mounted/device02:23
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:23
yonkeltronLjL: you need to be very brave. very brave02:23
VanessaEkhirr: use that ^^^^02:23
hazard_Or crazy.02:23
hazard_I'm plenty crazy.02:23
LjLguess so02:23
yonkeltronsure are02:23
LjLhazard_: anyway, really, what i'd try first would be the server CD02:23
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LjL(or just buy a stupid 800mb CD :P)02:23
hazard_I'll see what the big cd's got on it, now that its almost done downloading.02:24
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LjLwell actually, if you don't mind wasting CDs, i'd try overburning one of your 650MB CDs first... you never know02:24
Search4Lanceryonkeltron: and this is gonna take what, 4 or 5 hours to finish?02:24
hazard_They're old RWs...02:24
hazard_which is why there's so many...02:24
hazard_since they don't really get 'used'02:25
LjLhm, then nevermind overburning i suppose02:25
yonkeltronSearch4Lancer: no. should be nearly instant02:26
Search4Lancerand now it's stalled...02:26
yonkeltronSearch4Lancer: stop the transfer while this is happening02:26
Search4Lanceryeah well it was going through changing the perms on every bloody file on the drive02:26
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Search4Lancerand how am I supposed to do that?02:27
yonkeltronSearch4Lancer: it's just changing the permissions! not checksumming each and every byte02:27
yonkeltronSearch4Lancer: hit cancel or ctrl-c the process02:27
yonkeltronhow are you transferring the files?02:27
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Search4Lancerdrag n drop, but I'm not transferring right now, and I don't know where you're getting a cancel button in a terminal window :-P02:28
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yonkeltronSearch4Lancer: nvm. then. i thought you had a running transfer with konqueror.02:29
yonkeltronSearch4Lancer: i've chmod -R'd 56gb of data over a network and it didn't take more than 1.5 minutes02:29
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Search4Lancerwell in any case... I just tried chmodding the individual directory on the drive that I'm trying to transfer the files into, and it did do it quick, but it still isn't letting me move the files02:30
darkghostfinaly i can play some video from 3 dayes just need to play real media on kaffeine ? how to do that ?02:30
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khirrmy wine error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26121/02:31
yonkeltronSearch4Lancer: hmmmm02:31
yonkeltronSearch4Lancer: what is the exact error?02:31
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khirrplz (:(02:32
VanessaEstop running wine as root.02:33
Search4Lancerwell before it was telling me down in the status bar "you can not drag files to a directory you don't have permissions in" or whatever, and now I'm trying it again and it doesn't do that but gives me a status box saying "could not write to /media/sdf1/elmusico/whatever.mp3"02:33
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VanessaEnever run programs as root unless you're doing some kind of admin work02:34
snook353anyone have any experience config02:34
snook353'ing kdict?02:34
yonkeltronSearch4Lancer: manging your music collection?02:35
yonkeltroni find that it's better to use rsync to keep your collection up to date02:35
darkghostwhat codec do i need to install so i can run real media on kaffeine02:35
darkghostwhat codec do i need to install so i can run real media on kaffeine ??02:35
Search4Lancermoving what music I had on my USB key to my external HD where the rest of it is... moved off the key onto a temp folder on the desktop, and now trying to move from there to extHD02:36
Search4Lancer"you cannot drop any items into a directory in which you do not have write permission".... I do have write permission!02:36
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Search4Lancerit says right there in the properties for the folder.... 'owner can view & modify content'02:37
yonkeltrontry remounting the drive02:37
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yonkeltronor transfer them not by drag and drop02:37
VanessaEkhirr: stop running wine as root02:38
VanessaEkhirr:  never run programs as root unless you're doing some kind of admin work02:38
VanessaEthat's why you get that error - root can't access your screen without special permission02:38
khirrok, i'll live02:38
Search4Lancerremounting did the trick02:38
yonkeltronSearch4Lancer: i figure maybe hotplug just didn't do something correctly02:39
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khirrVanessaE this is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26122/02:40
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VanessaEok that error I can't help with, except that you can ignore everything below line 7 (those last errors are caused by the initial 'resources' problem)02:41
khirrhow can i solution that?02:42
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VanessaEyou running the 64 bit version?02:46
VanessaE(of kubuntu)02:46
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khirr yes02:47
khirrI'm runing under Kubuntu 6.06 AMD6402:47
VanessaEthat might be why, not sure win works in 64 bit02:47
VanessaEer, wine02:47
khirri've lots problem with AMD6402:48
VanessaEI have an AMD64 system also, but I stick to 32 bit because of probs like this02:48
khirrshould i intall 32bits version?02:48
VanessaEyeah, stick to 32bit.02:48
khirrit fastest 32 bits version than 64 bits version?02:48
HawkwindYou're better off going with 32bit02:49
Hawkwind64Bit still has some issues that probably won't be worked out for another year or so02:49
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VanessaEAMD64 can be somewhat faster than 32bit, but like hawk said, AMD64 has issues yet.02:50
khirri think, so i'll have to download 32 bits version02:50
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hansenHi. I'm missing "kinternet" on kubuntu. Is there a package available somewhere or maybe an alternative app that does the same? (I use it for wlan setup)02:51
orient2000what does kiternet does?02:52
hansenit allows you to: click tray icon, scan for wlan networks, choose network, type in passphrase => connected02:52
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hansenI know I can do it thru the system settings, but that requires root access and more manual setup. I installed kubuntu on my wife's laptop, so it needs to be pretty easy :-)02:53
orient2000did you check adept?02:54
hansenyes, I searched for kinternet with adept, no results02:54
VanessaEmaybe it was renamed?02:54
hansenI doubt it02:54
orient2000you have to check deskriptions the name of a program will be different02:55
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VanessaEI see a reference here to something called Qinternet02:56
VanessaEwould that work?02:56
hansenI'm totally new with (k)ubuntu (but have used suse for years and linux in general since 1994 or so), so I wondered how to get something like kinternet on kubuntu02:56
hansennever heard about02:56
orient2000check http://kde-apps.org you have it all there.02:56
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hansenI'll check02:56
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BonBonTheJonhansen: try looking into knetworkmanager02:56
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JacksLivrevening all02:58
JacksLivri am wanting to compile a kernel module. do i need the kernel-source or kernel-tree?02:58
VanessaElooks like that's a better idea (knetworkmanager)02:59
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hansenBonBonTheJon: Thanks! I installed the knetworkmanager package and now there is a "wireless assistant" entry in the menu that does exactly what I want.03:00
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BonBonTheJonVanessaE: we can share the credit03:00
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hansenVanessaE: qinternet would probably work too -- but it looks like a suse/novell invention. I want something that works on kubuntu out of the box, I'm getting to old and lazy to fiddle with such things :)03:02
VanessaEI know the feeling03:03
orient2000I hope everyone knows this link http://kde-apps.org03:03
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warpzonewhat are the kde-apps, random kde improvements?03:03
VanessaEI started my linux days with slackware (somewhere in the upper 6.x range I think)....now I want it to Just Work (tm) :)03:03
larson9999here's a silly question seems like i should be able to figure out: where's the wine config file these days?  i can't find one03:04
BonBonTheJonwarpzone: there are tons of programs on kde-apps, some of which you can download with apt-get03:04
VanessaElarson: it's stored as a couple of .ini files within the "c drive" you assigned it to03:04
VanessaEor something like that03:04
VanessaEand you apparently decide where the C drive is by fiddling with symlinks in .wine/dosdevices/03:05
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larson9999VanessaE, really? when did they change that?03:05
Dark_Vampirehi ppl03:05
warpzoneBonBonTheJon: neat03:06
VanessaENot sure when, but it sure confused me when I started fiddling with it on my husband's box yesterday03:06
VanessaE(trying to get M$ Pinball Arcade to run)03:06
Dark_Vampireany germans here?03:06
arepiehow to share a file with windows network?? i've tried "system settings -> network & connectivity -> sharing" but when i enter admin password, it still block me to make changes.. any solution?03:06
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de03:07
VanessaE(btw, I got it to run but I can't figure out what video mode it wants to run in, so all I can do is look at the main menu and exit out)03:07
Dark_Vampirethanks LjL03:07
VanessaEwell, I'm of German descent, but that doesn't count... nein sprechense Deutsche :)03:07
orient2000no much support in german section. They di suse in Germany.03:08
larson9999VanessaE, must be .reg files as that's all that on the C drive03:08
VanessaElarson: *nod* that's another source of config data03:08
VanessaEI wonder then, when it creates the other files03:09
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VanessaEprobably when you actually "install" something03:09
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BonBonTheJonarepie: in konqueror, right click on the folder you want to share, and there is a menu option to share03:11
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arepieBonBonTheJon: thank you03:12
BonBonTheJonarepie: did that work?03:12
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larson9999VanessaE, aha.  i'm trying to get the incredible machine to run for my son.  had it earlier with all but the dialog where you change the user name working great.  but now sound isn't working so i figured i'd check out the config file but they got rid of it on me03:13
VanessaEdid you try running winecfg?03:13
BonBonTheJonlarson9999: doesn't that game work in dos?03:13
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VanessaEthey moved everything around03:13
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VanessaEthere's settings there for sound.03:14
arepieBonBonTheJon: didn't try it yet..03:14
larson9999BonBonTheJon, this version is for xp.03:14
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BonBonTheJonlarson9999: I had a really old version that was for dos, and I guess it could work with dosbox03:15
ubotudosbox: A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA graphics, sound and DOS. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.63-2.1 (dapper), package size 371 kB, installed size 1028 kB03:15
larson9999VanessaE, yeah earlier i had to enable it and it worked fine.  the thing is that was on my machine to test.  so i'm setting up wine on my son's machine and am having the problem.03:16
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Dark_Vampirewell I'll try it her in english...  no answer in the german channel...  well i downloaded firefox(for linux) and opend the archive, on the site stands that i should run "firefox" in that...  there is a shell script named "firefox" and a "firefox-bin" in it... but nothing happens if i try to run it03:16
arepieBonBonTheJon: no, it didn't work03:16
Dark_Vampirehave i to be logged in as root?03:16
larson9999BonBonTheJon, yeah, i'm well aware of dosbox and dosemu.  been using both for what seems like decades.  but the version is better from a user standpoint anyway.  means a lot since i'm talking about my 5 year old.03:17
BonBonTheJonarepie: in control panel is there a samba option03:18
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larson9999BonBonTheJon, by the way, if you want to use dosbox don't use the version ubotu suggests.  .65 is soooooo much better03:19
Dark_Vampireby the way: how may i connect to 2 servers at same time in konversation?03:20
arepieBonBonTheJon: btw, im using edgy03:20
arepiethere's no control panel here03:20
arepiesystem settings perhaps03:20
BonBonTheJonarepie: ok03:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about share - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sharing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:22
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hades_Can someone point me to the FAQ on Grub that helps you restore it once Windows is installed?03:22
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT03:22
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:22
BonBonTheJonarepie: yeah, try installing swat03:22
arepieswat? from adept?03:22
BonBonTheJonarepie: yeah, its a web front end to samba, so it might help you out03:23
VanessaESwat is Your Friend (tm) :)03:23
arepieok, im installing03:24
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marvin__kubunto es03:27
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marvin__como chateo en esp03:28
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.03:29
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marvin__tengo problemas para instalar dku-503:32
marvin__en linux que hago03:32
hansenparse error...03:33
VanessaE(babelfish translation)   usted tiene que ensamblar uno de los canales antedichos para el espaol03:33
marvin__como hago03:34
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VanessaE(babelfish translation)   hablamos solamente ingls aqu.03:34
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.03:36
HawkwindThose speaking spanish should join #Ubuntu-ES03:36
VanessaEoy...trying to translate that back with babelfish results in some weird phrases :)03:36
VanessaEjust trying to help the guy find his way there, hawk :)03:36
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HawkwindVanessaE: I know.  I thought maybe if it was said in plain english he might understand :P03:37
VanessaEoh ok :)03:37
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VanessaEsorry, getting a little tired here... what should be obvious is hardly so.03:37
rancehey guys, I need a little help understanding adding printers to cups on a kubuntu/ubuntu server, the user/password admin bit never seems to work03:38
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bimberiubotu tell rance about cupsweb03:39
JacksLivrim trying to get the kernel source to compile a module. my uname says that I have 2.6.15-27-686, but my apt cache only has 2.4.27. kernel.org does not have that one to download.... HELP!?03:39
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VanessaEthat can't be right03:39
HawkwindJacksLivr: apt-cache search linux-headers03:40
VanessaElook for linux-image03:40
VanessaE(and -headers)03:40
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JacksLivris headers all i need?03:41
VanessaEThat reminds me...since I roll my own anyway, can I just uninstall all these past kernel images?03:41
HawkwindJacksLivr: Should be03:41
bimberiJacksLivr: 'apt-cache search linux-source' although yes you should only need headers03:41
HawkwindVanessaE: I'd leave at least 2 kernels installed at all times.  That way if something happens to the one you use all the time, you can boot to an older kernel03:41
VanessaEalready have two such of my own.  Just wanted to get rid of the other 6 :)03:42
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HawkwindVanessaE: I hear ya.  I'm running 2.6.18 and have an older 2.6.17 installed just incase03:42
arepieBonBonTheJon: after install swat, i can configure the sharing file from the system setting.. thanks..03:43
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VanessaEok, note to self...  the few megs of wasted space is not worth the effort to rip out the kernel out from under 50 other things that are marked as depends-on :)03:45
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JacksLivrError: Kernel source code is incomplete - drivers/md/dm.h not found.03:48
JacksLivri must need more than just the headers03:48
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xwolf-how do i set the DNS server i'll use?03:51
VanessaEedit /etc/resolv.conf03:51
xwolf-right. thank you.03:52
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VanessaEgenerally add a line like "nameserver  a.b.c.d"03:52
VanessaE(e.g. nameserver in the case of verizon)03:52
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JacksLivrError: Kernel source code is incomplete - drivers/md/dm.h not found.03:55
JacksLivri must need more than just the headers03:55
JacksLivrwhat else do i need?03:55
JacksLivrim trying to get the kernel source to compile a module. my uname says that I have 2.6.15-27-686, but my apt cache only has 2.4.27. kernel.org does not have that one to download03:55
HawkwindJacksLivr: Did you try linux-source ?03:55
JacksLivrits the wrong version03:55
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JacksLivrif i try that it wants to install 2.403:55
JacksLivrnot 2.603:55
Hawkwindlinux-source-2.6.15 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.15 with Ubuntu patches03:56
HawkwindJacksLivr: You must not have all the repos setup then03:56
VanessaEbetter you should roll your own (btw in my screen it shows 2.6.15 as being the only kernel-source pkg)03:56
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VanessaEer, linux-source package.03:56
Hawkwind!info linux-source-2.6.1503:56
ubotulinux-source-2.6.15: Linux kernel source for version 2.6.15 with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15-27.48 (dapper), package size 43670 kB, installed size 43812 kB03:56
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JacksLivri uncommented all the lines for the repos03:56
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HawkwindJacksLivr: sudo apt-get update03:57
JacksLivri did03:57
HawkwindJacksLivr: Paste your sources.list to http://pastebin.ulteo.us for us to see03:57
JacksLivrhang on03:57
JacksLivrthanks for helping03:57
HawkwindTis what we're here for :)03:58
HawkwindJacksLivr: Try changing every instance of us.archive.ubuntu.com to just archive.ubuntu.com and then do a sudo apt-get update again and then find the package04:01
JacksLivrk, doing now04:02
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VanessaEhm...just got reminded to check my server for open ports, etc.  any idea what ports 820 and 875 are for?04:04
darrellmarlowwhen you are in the terminal and reading a man page; how do you get back to terminal?04:06
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VanessaEusually q04:06
darrellmarlowcool thx04:07
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DsbeerfHi, any special rep for kubuntu i found nothing for vlc and for xchat with apt-get04:09
HawkwindDsbeerf: Enable universe and multiverse04:09
Dsbeerfhow ? im kinda new on kubuntu i was a ubuntu user04:10
JacksLivrHawkwind: i did what you suggested04:10
Hawkwind!repos > Dsbeerf04:10
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HawkwindJacksLivr: Now install it.  It's listed there in that paste04:10
HawkwindJacksLivr: sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.1504:11
waspiusanyone know how i can add smileys to kopete?04:11
JacksLivrso the us was throwing it off04:11
waspiusthe ones they send me?04:11
waspiushello anyone know how i can add the smileys they send me on kopete?04:13
canenwaspius: in configure04:14
Hawkwindwaspius: Please don't repeat yourself.  Patience and someone will help you when they know04:14
canenone sec i'll tell u where04:14
waspiusHawkwind: it was a mistake i went to ask it in another channel04:14
VanessaEok here's one....where exactly do I configure portmap/nfsd to only listen to one specific interface?04:14
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matrixhi, can i find recommendation which wlan pcmcia card to buy to work smoth with ubuntu?04:15
canencrap, i can't find it04:16
MichaleRNo wait, that wlan card ID is wrong04:18
canenwaspius: it's in the protocol settings04:18
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canenclick on modify for the account04:18
canenin msn any way "MSN settings"04:19
waspiuscanen: ok thanx04:20
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MichaleRwlan card:  CNET CWC-854  IDs as ra0 interface04:20
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MichaleRgood solid card, support right out of the box, available for ~$30USD04:21
MichaleRThere are others, but that one is my current choice04:21
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flaccidin firefox homepage:04:25
flaccidwhy are the links to 'the difference' , 'longterm support' etc. not installed?04:25
flaccidwhich package has them04:25
matrixMichaleR: interesting never heard of this brand04:25
matrixis there a hardware listing for well supported wlan cards04:26
ironfroggyhow do you properly dispose of a laptop battery?04:26
matrixso i can judge when i am in store tomorrow if one of the available cards is working04:26
matrixbest would of course be if it even supports suspend04:26
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SperMitewhat was it to print glxgears info?04:27
VanessaE-printfps perhaps?04:30
SperMiteyeah thats it04:31
SperMitethank you04:31
VanessaEthat bugs me...I mean, I know it's not a valid benchmark, but it can at least tell you if GLX is working right04:32
VanessaEthey should have left that option on by default.04:32
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bimberithe option to switch it on used to be -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark   ! :)04:34
waspiusdoes anyone know if xgl is supported by kubuntu and if it will run ok on a laptop at 2.804:34
VanessaEwell, bbl, gotta go pick up hubby.04:35
MichaleRmatrix: yes, I'm looking for the link04:35
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flaccid_waspius: yes04:35
flaccid_how can i make gtk applications look more cleaner/like qt?04:36
waspiusflaccid: will i find it with apt-get or do i need to download it from elsewhere?04:37
flaccid_!xgl > waspius04:37
flaccid_it can be a pain04:38
flaccid_its still experimental and not all that smooth04:38
flaccid_see how you go04:38
flaccid_use the #ubuntu-xgl channel04:38
orient2000did you guys get any updates in a last 24 hours?04:38
flaccid_i didn't04:38
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flaccid_don't think04:39
flaccid_maybe. i think there was in the last 4804:39
orient2000but not in last 24 hrs?04:39
flaccid_i can't confirm 100%04:40
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orient2000ou will need to go download one of the04:41
orient2000    j2sdk-1_4_2-doc.zip j2sdk-1_4_0-doc-ja.zip j2sdk-1_4_2-doc-ja.zip04:41
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orient2000I am trying to get some doc file on jave and it get stoped on java.zip I can not run update because of it.04:42
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flaccid_youtube for $1.6 bil by google04:42
flaccid_not bad04:42
pacmananyone have any experience with torcs04:43
orient2000it is not very user friendly.04:43
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cpk2isnt torcs that car racing game?04:45
pacmanit's telling me that it can't find libXrandr04:46
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flaccid_gosh google 429 on nasdaq heh04:46
pacmanbut I have the newest versions of libxrandr2 and libxrandr-dev04:46
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pacmanhey flaccid, weren't you the one who was helping me last night04:53
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pacmanI'm having a problem with torcs04:53
flaccidi can see04:54
pacmanany suggestions?04:54
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flaccidwhat package of torcs is installed04:54
cpk2i take it you used apt-get?04:54
pacmanI did apt-get last night, and all the game was was 4 wheels04:55
pacmanno cars, no track, just 4 wheels and the background04:55
pacmanoh, and brake lights04:55
flaccidplease pastebin output from dpkg -l | grep -i torcs04:55
pacmanroot@pacman-desktop:/home/pacman/Desktop/torcs-1.2.4# dpkg -l | grep -i torcs04:56
pacmanii  torcs                                  1.2.4-1ubuntu7                          3D racing cars simulator game using OpenGL04:56
pacmanii  torcs-data                             1.2.4-1                                 base data files for TORCS game04:56
pacmanii  torcs-data-cars                        1.2.4-1                                 data files for TORCS game - Cars set04:56
pacmanii  torcs-data-tracks                      1.2.4-1                                 data files for torcs game - Tracks set04:56
JacksLivrHawkwind: i installed and extracted that source. I am building the module now. It is taking a while.04:56
flaccid!paste > pacman04:56
JacksLivr45 minutes so far on a core duo04:56
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:56
Hawkwindpacman: Please don't paste to the channel04:56
flaccidok thats what i have04:56
HawkwindJacksLivr: Very kewl.  Glad you got it sorted04:56
pacmananyhow, so my buddy tells me to just download it from the torcs site04:57
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JacksLivrthanks you man. im not sure i would have ever caught the us. at the beginning as being a problem04:57
flaccidi'd rather find out the problem04:57
flaccidpacman: now this dpkg -l | grep -i libxrandr204:57
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flacciddo you have
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flaccidfor both libs?04:58
ndchi every body,i have problem the (wmv) format cant open in04:58
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HawkwindJacksLivr: Sometimes it is, sometimes it's not. You can add mirrors if you want to it, like I have se.archive.ubuntu.com to use the Swedish mirrors.  They work for me best even though I'm in the USA04:59
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orient2000virus in it?04:59
flaccidpacman: pastebin output from ls -l /usr/lib/libXrandr.*04:59
felixjethow can i change icons of my files ?05:00
flaccidfelixjet: per extension?05:01
orient2000try to open sample wmv05:01
Hawkwindfelixjet: You can do it globally in kcontrol05:01
pacmanuhm, how do I pastebin it?05:01
Hawkwindfelixjet: Or you can right click in konqueror and set them there05:01
felixjetno have extensions05:01
pacmanI don't know anything about IRC05:01
Hawkwindpacman: http://pastebin.ulteo.us05:01
flaccid!paste > pacman05:01
felixjetthey are links05:01
pacman!paste > pacman05:01
flaccidpaste it in the pastebin site and then copy the link and paste here05:02
felixjetto nets/apps05:02
ndchow to open sample wmv i tru with VLC and mplayer but still now i cant05:02
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cpk2ndc: do you have w32codecs?05:02
orient2000sorry, can not help.05:03
felixjethow i do it in kcontrol Hawkwind ?05:03
felixjetnvm, thats for all files05:03
felixjeti just want a few05:03
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Hawkwindfelixjet: If they are links I don't know.  I don't really use KDE enough to know.  I just know for files/directories the ways I mentioned above05:03
felixjethow to do in konqueror?05:03
Ashexanyone know how to setup gpg keys in kmail?05:03
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flaccidpacman: that looks fine05:03
AshexI want to setup pgp verifcation in kmail, but i'm having issues with it05:04
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flaccidcan you paste the exact error message please05:04
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orient2000maybe you do not have a drivers for wmv. search for easyubuntu on google.ca install one at a time. be carefull.05:05
flaccidsorry i meant pac05:05
felixjetHawkwind: maybe i can do it with scripting? any idea?05:05
flaccidfelixjet: you goto konqueror configuration and file assocations05:05
zamwhen im tring to install kubuntu i have format my home /dev and im in big trabil now ; can any one tell me about recovry tool that i can use pleases ?05:05
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flaccidpacman: you didn't tell me you were compiling. why are you compiling?05:06
flaccidpacman: you already have the game installed05:06
orient2000w32codesc search for easyubuntu on google.ca install one at a time. be carefull.05:06
flaccidpacman: it should be in your game menu or simply run torcs05:07
Hawkwind!info w32codecs05:07
ubotuw32codecs: win32 binary codecs. In component extras, is optional. Version 1:20060611-0.0 (dapper-seveas), package size 13911 kB, installed size 33488 kB (Only available for i386)05:07
cpk2there is a wiki on how to get the w32 codecs05:07
pacmanyeah, but when I try and play, there are no cars or tracks05:07
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:07
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ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.05:07
HawkwindDon't use easyubuntu, read the link before it05:07
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pacmanflaccid: just 4 wheels and a background....no way to tell where the track is or even see the car05:08
ndcya thank iwill try05:08
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flaccidpacman: are the menus when the game loads ok?05:09
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pacmanyes, the menus seem fine05:09
flaccidpacman: pastebin the output when you run it from konsole05:09
flaccidit should start with probably Visual Properties Report then you might have errors..05:10
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pacmanis the command just torcs?05:10
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felixjetflaccid: im noob in linux so, ill ask you if this is permited. i make an asociation. for example .felixjet and put an icon for that. and i tried and the file opened as i want, with !bin/sh .it this ok?05:11
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flaccidfelixjet: yeah i guess so. if it is a shell script ensure you have #!/bin/sh as the first line05:12
felixjetyes it is and it have05:12
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flaccidpacman: you have the errors. use google and #torcs05:14
flaccidi probably would compile myself in this situation05:15
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flaccidwhat you were doing before05:16
pacmanwith the ./config05:16
pacmanrather ./configure05:16
flaccidyou probably need to make a soft link05:17
pacmanbut that's where I'm having my problems05:17
scottpeHello, I'm having a problem getting kubuntu to see my alps touchpad.  The system seems to see and configure all other hardware05:17
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scottpehas anyone else had any problems with using their touchpads under kubuntu.  I had mandriva installed and the touchpad worked fine.05:18
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orient2000where is this program located? in internet or graphics?05:19
flaccidpacman: i will look at your config.log if you paste it even though this problem is outside the scope of this channel05:20
pacmanhow do I open my config.log05:21
Dr_willismore config.log05:21
rojikaruI need to know how to register a name?05:21
flaccidcat ./config.log > /tmp/config.log then open it with a text editor and pastebin05:22
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rojikaruDoes anyone know a Josh Beck?05:25
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flaccidpacman: without knowing the specific configure options. try ./configure --libdir=/usr/lib05:27
flaccidif that doesnt' work, you need to seek further help from the project itself05:27
flaccidalternatively remove torcs package and install it again. i'd of course recommend removing the torcs packages if you are successful with ./configure and make and then need to do a make install05:28
rojikaruWHo works as staff here?05:29
rojikaruI need to register my name.05:29
Dr_willisrojikaru,  you are refering to your nickname?05:29
rojikaruThat's exactly what I meant.05:29
Dr_willis- try /msg nickserv help05:30
rojikaruOkay nwo I need help05:32
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VanessaEok, is this thing still on?05:33
VanessaEgood.  I didn't block myself out :)05:33
orient2000orient2000 REGISTER05:34
pacmanI did the remove, but I don't htink it removed it completely05:34
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VanessaEok, bedtime for me.  night all.05:36
flaccidpacman: need to use apt-get --purge05:36
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rojikaruHow do you fake mail?05:39
orient2000how can I remove all uninstalled files in Konsole?05:39
Dr_williswhat an odd question to ask rojikaru05:39
Dr_willisorient2000,   the files apt download are in let me check... :)05:39
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rojikaruI know, but I'm reading this thing where I can be an uberhacker, so i'm supposed to ask, but the people in the room i'm in aren't answering.05:40
Dr_willisthere is some apt clean command that remove4s them05:40
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Dr_willisrojikaru,  i think you need to go spend more time reading about linux.05:40
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MasterEvilAcewhich brings up a question.. is there a man page for linux in linux?05:41
Hawkwindorient2000: sudo apt-get clean05:41
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Hawkwindorient2000: That will remove all the files in /var/cache/apt/archives05:41
Dr_willisMasterEvilAce,  since linux isent a command.. i would guess no.05:41
rojikaruWell it's a joke more, but i'm really looking for my teacher who might be on here.05:41
orient2000tks I will try05:41
rojikaruPlus my books haven't gotten in yet.05:42
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Dr_willisTheres a HUGE amount of online guides/docs/tutorials out  on the web. :)05:42
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rojikaruI know, and I'm also trying to hack into a computer.05:43
rojikaruBecause they put a computer on my old Windows machine.05:43
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orient2000it did clear my system and now is stable thanks05:47
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Dr_willisorient2000,  its odd that clearing the apt archives would do anything at all to affect system stability..05:47
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rojikaruI needed to know something.05:47
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rojikaruWhen I was ftping my friends computer it would just have a blank line and I couldn't do anything, what should I do?05:49
orient2000well, I could not run update manager and I could not install any new programs from adept05:50
Dr_willisrojikaru,  you are mot making sence.05:50
orient2000Well, maybe not a stability problem really.05:50
rojikaruwell I type ftp and his ipaddress.05:50
rojikaruand after that it says connected to <ipaddress>.05:50
Dr_willisrojikaru,  you do realize that when you enter a password it does NOT echo any characters05:50
BonBonTheJonrojikaru: he has to be running an ftp server05:50
orient2000thanks for helping me.05:50
rojikaruIt never asked for a password, and he is.05:51
felixjetim runing wine but its like 400x320 screen. how can i max. it'05:51
Dr_willissounds like he needs to cehck his ftp server logs...05:51
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Dr_williswe wont go into how BAD  running a ftp server is from a security point of view. :)05:52
rojikaruOh okay.05:52
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.05:52
rojikaruWe know how bad it is.05:52
rojikaruIt's just for testing purposes.05:52
rojikaruit has a file the says delete once opend.05:52
Dr_willisi would say theres a problem with his ftp server05:54
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rojikaruNow how do I login using telnet?05:56
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flaccidrojikaru: telnet host05:57
flaccidif you do not have telnet, install it with your fav package manager05:58
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rojikaruNow what about if I want to get in and see the files?05:58
flaccidwhat the telnet server serves is up to the admin of the server05:59
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rojikaruSo it's not like I can do with ssh and just log in knowing the root pass and be able to open the cd drive?05:59
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rojikaruand do you know of any remote servers that are open for easy hacking, pardon, manipulating?06:00
Dr_willismost systems block direct logging in as root.06:00
rojikaruSo how would I get around those?06:00
rojikaruwell i sshed hackthissite.org's server.06:03
rojikaruand the end result all i have to do is enter a password.06:03
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MotorCityMadManhello: I cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_timestamps and value = 1 > Can this value be tweaked ?06:08
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rojikaruWell I must get ready for school, and a week of hacking, nite yalll.06:08
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Dr_willisMotorCityMadMan,  what is it supposed to do?06:09
Dr_willissudo echo '0' > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_timestamps06:09
Dr_willisMAY work.06:09
MotorCityMadManadvanced TCP features06:09
Dr_willisbut isent 1 enabled? and 0 disabled?06:09
MotorCityMadMani'm trying to tweak my connection for max use-ish of bandwidth06:11
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Dr_willismentions that topic06:14
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v3traehey guys, trying to help a friend get used to kubuntu. i'm a gentoo user myself, whats the command to start sshd in Kubuntu?06:33
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fdoving!guidelines > dennister06:34
verbosei can only login under failsafe from kdm06:34
fdovingv3trae: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start06:34
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verbosei've moved ~/.kde to dotkde so it's not something i've messed up there06:34
v3traefdoving, thats what i told him, says it isn't there. Is ssh not available from a livecd?06:34
verboseany pointers as to where to start?06:34
dennisterI'm sorry?06:35
fdovingv3trae: needs to be installed. packagename is 'openssh-server'06:35
verboseit's been a long time since the last time i rebooted so i'm not sure how many updates and whatnot have taken place since my last boot06:35
dennisterfdoving: i thought I was trying to be polite?06:35
fdovingv3trae: it's on the cd, but it's not installed by default. (ref. no open ports by default policy).06:35
ubotuPlease don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines06:36
fdovingdennister: ^^06:36
v3traefdoving, thanks =)06:36
fdovingit's more disturbing and annoying than polite, i'm afraid. :)06:36
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dennisterI was going to go back to something I was working on, sorry...06:36
fdovingno problem :)06:36
fdovingi have to go to work.06:36
fdovingsee you later.06:36
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dennisterwhen i chatted years ago, regularly, we were supposed to tell pps when we weren't paying attention06:37
dennisterrules change...different environments06:38
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fdovingyes, this is a support channel, and if everyone in here were randomly telling you they we're away it wouldn't be much room for support-chat.06:38
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dennisterok..i see, i'm rereading the ircguidlines now06:39
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dennisterthanks for the heads-up06:39
fdovingverbose: can it be this: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/5304006:39
fdovingdennister: you're welcome :)06:39
fdovingwell.. off to work. bye.06:40
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ubotuPlease don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines06:41
fdovingdennister ^^06:41
fdovingnow i'm leaving, for real.06:41
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dennisteri'm trying to do it silently so as not to disturb anyone06:42
fdovingthe message is displayed.06:42
fdovingdo you use konversation?06:42
dennisterfdoving; i don't want you to be late for work06:43
fdovingdennister: i work for myself. doesn't matter. but in konversation. go to settings -> identities06:44
fdovinggo to the 'away'-tab.06:44
dennisterI'll just leave for now to do my taks b4 i get kicked off someplace else for inactivity06:44
fdovingun-check 'show away message'06:44
fdovingnow i'm leaving.06:45
dennisterok, bye06:45
verbosefdoving: doesn't look like that's it.../dev/null has correct permissions06:45
verbosealthough my machine is doing exactly what that guy is describing06:45
dennisterhawkwing is away anyway, so i'll be back later06:46
dennisterbye for now06:47
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obf213does anyone know why amarok wont let you change the tags on m4a files06:49
obf213it never seems to index them correctley and if you changed it  it says the change couldnt be save06:49
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obf213if you change the file extention from m4a to mp3 it screws up the file and it doesnt really play06:49
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josefhai everbody07:17
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josefi want to install mysql thru adept if i type "mysql" it will show alots of mysql package but wich is it ???07:19
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noiesmojosef, do you want php as well then pick like php5-mysql mysql-server-4.107:22
josef<noiesmo> thanks but i need only mysql07:23
noiesmothen mysql-server-4.1 should do it josef07:23
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josef<noiesmo> ok thanks you  see you later07:24
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noiesmojosef, np07:25
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Arlingtoni need to change a option for a folder.07:30
Arlingtoni need the option for "all" to be set to read07:31
Arlingtonbut the folder is owned by root.07:31
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noiesmowell Arlington you need the usr who is sudo user to do it as by default root account is disabled07:31
flaccidArlington: change the perms using sudo07:31
Arlingtonflaccid:  yes. but how?07:32
Arlingtonflaccid: i mean what command07:32
noiesmosudo chown user:group folder07:32
noiesmoor chmod -r +xrw folder07:32
noiesmooops chmod -r +xrw nogo sorry would be sudo chmod -r 777 folder to give all read write exe07:34
Arlingtonbut all shouldn't have that the only one that i wanna change is the last option called others, i wan't it to be read.07:36
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flaccidi don't recommend 77707:41
flaccidthen its chmod 77407:41
Arlingtonbut how do i change option other then the first called owner?07:41
flaccidor 775 for read and exec07:42
flaccidfirst called owner?07:42
Arlingtonwhen right clicking on teh folder and choosing the tab "protection" there are three types. "owner" "Group" "others" the option i wan't to change to read is the "other"07:43
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Arlingtonbut the folders is owned by root as it's a mounted hdd.07:45
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flaccidArlington: what filesystem is it?07:46
flaccidin that case you need to mount it with a mask07:46
flacciddo you want to own it?07:47
flaccidand not root?07:47
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse07:47
aegeanbotWish I knew!07:47
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse07:48
Arlingtona pearl script needs to acces the drive (that works perfectly with other programs run by me) but the pearlscript executes as another user.07:48
aegeanbotBugger all, I dunno!07:48
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flaccid^^ Arlington that link shows it all07:48
Arlingtoncan't you just tell me how to change the options for the folder?07:49
flaccidnot that you cannot chmod on fat because fat does not have any perms07:49
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flaccidyou can't chmod with fat!07:49
flaccidfat does not have acl07:49
Arlingtonyes i could earlier. it worked perfectly. it's not the drive i chmod it's the folder in /media/sda1007:51
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Arlingtonbut you tought me how to chmod the first post (owner)07:51
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flaccidArlington: that is the mount point folder07:52
patrickwhen is the final edgy going to be released?07:52
Arlingtonyes i know07:52
flaccidso follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions07:53
Arlingtonflaccid. it is mopunting automattcile07:53
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flaccidyou just set the desired perms on the mount point and mount it with the required mask07:54
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Arlingtonthe drive is mounting perfectly. just with the wrong permissions and i was able to change it to writeable for the owner of the folder (root) but i wan't it to be readable for the third option (others) can chmod change that for me? if so, how?07:55
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flaccidor already said07:55
flaccidchmod 77507:55
flaccidyou really should read up on the masks, Arlington07:55
patrickwhen is edgy going to be released07:55
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AmorityDoes anyone know when the final release of Edgy Eft will be out?07:59
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bimberi_Amority: Oct 26 is the target date - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule08:03
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AmorityThank you bimberi08:04
bimberi_np :)08:05
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flaccidtime to detach08:06
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HitmanXapt-get or aptitude?08:11
HitmanXi read somewhere aptitude deals with dependencies better08:12
twosouls82apt-get works fine08:12
ubotuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide08:12
twosouls82use what you like better08:12
AmorityWow now I get it08:12
HitmanXah right that makes sense08:13
Amorityso when you do aptitude remove, it removes more dependencies?08:13
Amorityor removes them in general08:13
bimberi_yes (as long as other packages don't use those dependencies)08:13
AmorityOk thanks08:13
bimberi_np :)08:13
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twosouls82there is a 'plugin' for apt-get that does something like that too08:14
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peteryuis anybody outside08:23
twosouls82hi peteryu08:24
peteryuSorry, I am a newbie08:24
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twosouls82peteryu: we all were once08:25
Amorityyup and Im still a newbie myself actually ^-^08:25
peteryui just install Kubuntu and i don't know what to do08:26
flaccidi'm a n00b08:26
twosouls82peteryu: any general questions? or do you want me to point you out to the man pages, tutorials, help files etc?08:27
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peteryuthanks in advance !08:30
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twosouls82peteryu: heh :) no props08:31
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twosouls82peteryu: a really good start for (k)ubuntu would be their help file (khelpcentre of gnome-help (?))08:33
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maryenwas edgy rc1 released tonight?08:37
bimberi_maryen: no, it's scheduled for Oct 19 - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule08:42
maryenhmm, whats with the huge update then08:43
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twosouls82later people :)08:55
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|lostbyte|xHi Guys..09:10
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|lostbyte|xThis place is quite.09:13
Amorityyes it is lol09:13
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draikI know that GNOME has a widget for a dictionary/thesaurus. Does KDE have something similar?09:17
AmorityIve been looking for one myself. Im sure there is one, But I havnt found one yet09:17
Amorityoo thanks :D09:17
stoicim pretty sure there is one that comes with open office09:17
stoicdont quote me on that though09:18
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stoicdoes anyone in here know much about xfce?09:19
AmorityI know a little bit09:20
stoicit is a good gui to run on older machines correct?09:20
andersgoIt's quick and fast. Recommended if you think Gnome/KDE is too heavy09:21
ubotuXubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org  To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop09:21
Amorityits really fast and lightweight. I installed it on my friends PII pc09:21
Amorityruns smoothly too :D09:21
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stoicok, i have an older laptop that i am going to try installing xubuntu on, its kind of my test machine right now, the integrated 512 ram is also used for my video card... :( so i need a pretty light interface to run it efficiantly09:21
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AmorityXubuntu will do more than well on that then09:21
stoiccool, i mean its only 3 years old... but i when i installed kubuntu on my desktop i noticed a deffinate improvement on the speed09:22
stoicwhich means that the laptop probaly just can't handle that heavy of a GUI09:22
andersgoMy Atheros ath0 interface installed perfectly during the installation, but after kernel upgrade the driver has disappeared...09:22
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AmorityO yeah Kubuntu is a resource hog ;) Xubuntu runs well on my friends pc which has 256mb sdram, shared with onboard graphics09:23
andersgoDo I have to do some manual work after each kernel-upgrade?09:23
stoicthe driver just dissapeared on you?09:23
Amoritycuz its not in the new kernel folder09:23
AmorityI install the drivers to the main Firmware folder so no matter what kernel you run, it works09:23
Amorityjust reinstall it09:24
andersgoHow doI reinstall the mad-wifi driver in Kubuntu?09:24
Amoritywhat kind of wireless adaptor are you using?09:24
AmorityDo you know what kind of chipset it is?09:25
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draikAmority, kdict is good, but is there anything that will run on my system bar?09:25
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AmorityI havnt found a dictionary widget for the system bar for KDE. You can search www.kde-look.org but I havnt had any luck09:26
andersgoath0: <Atheros 5212>09:26
andersgoThis is from my FreeBSD which is currently running09:27
Amorityandersgo have you installed it in linux before? Im not fond of the Atheros chipsets. Mine is a broadcom. Sorry If I am unable to help you well09:27
stoicok well my xubuntu download is done, off to installing... goodbye09:28
andersgoYeah It ran perfectly on my old Fedora installation, but I had to recompile the mad-wifi driver after each kernel upgrade09:28
draiksearched there and http://www.google.com/linux too,     nothing09:28
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Amoritydraik, same here. I searched and searched as well. No luck. :D09:29
draikoh well09:29
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Amorityme too09:30
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andersgoI had some hopes that the ath driver in Kubuntu would work automagicly - even after kernel upgrades09:30
AmorityI know it will if you extract a copy of the drivers in the Firmware dir. Thats what I did. Is that what you did. Im not even sure if thats whats doing it for me.09:31
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andersgoI have not copied anything - yet09:31
draikIs it possible to find drivers for an old (2002-ish) scanner for linux?09:31
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twosouls82lo :)09:32
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AmorityHehe, how do I register to this channel :D?09:34
Hurginhas anyone else had these errors: "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169"?09:34
Amoritywhat are you doing when you get this error?09:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nickserv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:35
Amoritythanks twosouls09:35
Hurginif I run an X app from the console i get them09:35
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twosouls82Amority: wait a sec09:35
andersgoThe only diff between lib/firmware/2.6.15-26-38609:35
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andersgoand the -27 revision is the acx directory.09:36
twosouls82Amority: this will do; http://www.irchat.tv/nickserv.htm09:36
Hurgin"X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16909:36
Hurgin  Major opcode:  14709:36
Hurgin  Minor opcode:  309:36
Hurgin  Resource id:  0x009:36
HurginFailed to open device09:36
Amoritythanks twosouls09:36
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Amorityandersgo, when you extract your drivers, put a copy in your firmware dir and I think that will keep you from having to redo it after kernel updates09:37
twosouls82Hurgin: that's just a non-existant (pointer (?)) device in your xorg.conf09:37
twosouls82remove it and the error will be gone09:37
Hurginhow do i identify it in the file?09:38
andersgoAmority: Thanks. I'll try that approach.09:38
AmorityNp :D09:38
twosouls82Hurgin: it's probably a pointer, look for the input devices... you will soon enough see what you don't have :)09:38
twosouls82Hurgin: use  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org if you are unsure09:40
Hurginthanks twosouls8209:40
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HurginI notice xorg.conf mentions a ps/2 mouse, but I have a usb one?09:42
twosouls82Hurgin: It's the "stylus" and the "eraser", assuming you don't have it either.. if it doesn't ring a bell... you don't have it09:42
Hurginyeah def. do not have a stylus - will comment those out :)09:43
twosouls82Hurgin: "cursor" too, I forgot that one09:43
twosouls82and your mouse works like a charm right? ;)09:43
Hurginyeah - thanks09:44
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stefanJag r nybrjare p linux och hller p att bli knpp och undrar om det finns nn vnlig som vill hjlpa mig09:54
twosouls82hi stefan09:54
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twosouls82and in English that means? (you will be helped a lot quicker/easier that way)09:55
stefanok Im sorry09:55
twosouls82our Scandinavian isn't that good09:55
feethi.. amarok throws a bunch of songs into Various Artists.. i dont understand how they got in there, when several other songs by the same artist have their own listing... what exactly does the collection builder look for when categorising items?? thanks in advance :-)09:55
twosouls82feet:  the id3 tags09:56
twosouls82feet: it looks like the mp3s you have aren't cleanly filled in09:56
stefanI new to all this linux09:56
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stefanAnd my problem is that I have problems with getting my readeon 9600 to work with kubuntu09:57
twosouls82stefan: I myself don't have a ati card, but what is the exact problem you have with getting it to work?09:58
Admiral_Chicagodoes anybody know if katapult has an error log09:59
Admiral_Chicagoand if so, where is it kept09:59
feettwosouls82: i have all the fields filled..09:59
feetim quit @n@l when it comes to that09:59
stefanI dont know how to make the file start09:59
Amoritydid you download the ati driver10:00
AmorityI use ati10:00
twosouls82feet: well, if you have more than one artist, it IS various10:00
Amorityok which driver did you download?10:00
stefanyes but i cant start it10:00
feetits just one artist10:00
feetsorry i mean10:00
Amoritywell you could use  "sudo sh <filename>"  if the driver is in your home dir10:00
twosouls82hehe :) feet10:00
feettheres many artists yes... but these artists also have their own categories10:00
feetso why cant the songs be in those?10:00
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stefanxorg.driver.fglrx.dev_  is the name of the driver10:01
twosouls82feet you can choose the display type for the collection in the dropdown list above it10:01
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feeti know10:01
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feeti have it set to artist10:01
Amoritywhere did you download that driver Stefan?10:01
feetso in theory, it should display all songs by artist10:01
feetmost of them do, but a few do not and wind up in various10:02
stefanfrom ati10:02
Amorityhold on real fast10:02
twosouls82and you want the various to appear in their own sub group?10:02
AmorityI have the Fglrx installer driver10:02
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twosouls82feet: like they should, various artists in the various group10:02
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:02
stefanok does the fglrx work for my card10:02
feetlets say there is a category for an artist called singer x. so theres songs listed under singer x's list. GREAT! but some of singer x's songs are listed under various artists. that doesnt make sense.10:03
Amorityuse the driver 8.26.1810:03
Amoritydownload it from the recent drivers list on ati's website10:03
Amoritythen use this10:03
stefanok  but how do I start the file when I have downloaded it10:03
cpk2feet: huh, i never noticed that until you brought that up10:03
twosouls82feet, amarok handles various artists files that way... I am not to fond of it either10:03
Amorityjust follow that tutorial10:04
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hyperanyone can help me setting up a streaming mp3 server? I installed gnump3 but I don't know how to access it now10:04
twosouls82feet, I use the 'order by album' the most10:05
stefanok thanks10:05
Amoritynp :D10:05
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feetalbums are no good to me :P10:05
feetbecause lets imagine singer x has a billion albums... lol10:05
twosouls82feet; you can use the filter above it10:06
bohmtoi cant send or recive files in kopete icq10:06
feetthats no good10:06
feeti dont want to type10:06
bohmtoim running edgy10:06
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feeti want the list there right now in view10:06
twosouls82bohmto: forward the ports it uses in your router config (nat)10:06
feethence, using artist view10:06
twosouls82or even open them in your firewall10:07
bohmtoany idea if im missing a plugin10:07
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twosouls82bohmto: yep, you're not10:07
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twosouls82feet: request a adjustment :)10:08
feetlol i shall10:08
feetwhere would i do that, probably something on the amarok website i guess10:08
bohmtowich plugin are requierd for kopete to send and recive files?10:09
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twosouls82dunno feet, maybe you could check #amarok10:09
twosouls82they'll tell you10:10
feetkopete in the repositories lets you send files10:10
twosouls82bohmto: none at all10:10
feetin a conversation window, click chat then send file10:10
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bohmtowell i cant do that10:10
feetor chat, contacts, the contact's name, then send a file10:11
twosouls82bohmto: you should ensure that the firewall of your box and the one on your router don't stop the transfer10:11
bohmtoi have tried that to10:11
twosouls82pretty damn usual10:11
bohmtowell i can try to reinstall kopete10:12
feetmay work10:12
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twosouls82will not, unless I am wrong10:12
Amoritywill sudo apt-get install kopete work?10:12
Amorityo wait im completely off subject im sorry10:12
feeteven sudo apt-get install --reinstall kopete10:13
feetthat will work as well10:13
Amorityok thanks10:13
bohmtoand i will try with licq to to see if the problem is the router10:13
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feetcome to think of it, will there be jabber support in kopete anytime soon for the repos?10:13
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feetnot jabber10:13
feetjingle sorry10:13
khirri have one question10:13
twosouls82bohmto: that will only do if they use the same ports10:13
khirri need format one disk10:14
bohmtook thanks10:14
khirrbut i wanna that be on ntfs, but since kubuntu10:14
khirrhow can i do ir?10:14
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feetso you want to format a disk to ntfs?10:15
feetget qtparted using adept10:15
khirri clean one particion without want10:15
feetwhy do you want ntfs10:15
twosouls82ntfs -> linux? :D10:16
feetif anything, use either ext3 or vfat10:16
khirri converted one particion to ext3, i lost all my data, but whatever, now i need convert that to ntfs10:17
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feetwhat for??10:17
twosouls82khirr: how did you 'convert' it?10:17
khirrinstalling kubuntu 32 bits, cause 64 is a litle uncompatible10:18
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khirrmy brother use this machine too, but he works with windows10:18
feetthen you probably accidentally wiped the drive10:18
twosouls82yup, I think so too feet, and thus khirr10:19
khirri downloades qtparted10:19
twosouls82whiped for good probably10:19
feetthere are extraordinary measures you can take to recover data... none of which work10:19
feetthe data is gone10:19
feettrust me, ive been there and back10:20
twosouls82unless you just f*cked up the table, then you could restore it.. changed file system type -> wrecked it10:20
khirrbut, the data was in the unit D, i cleaned unit E, where was my information, really important is my brother information, my, i can download 30gb again :'(10:20
cox377i was talking with someone on here about the canon IP100010:20
cox377dont know if they are on now10:20
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feetoh i found the answer to my amarok question10:22
khirri forgot my root pass10:22
twosouls82feet: which is? (dying to know it too)10:23
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hyperanyone can help me setting up a streaming mp3 server? I installed gnump3 but I don't know how to access it now10:23
feetset the view to Artist/Album, right click the Album, and pick Do not show10:23
twosouls82feet: heh :P10:25
khirrone question, how could change my root pass10:25
cpk2i think its passwd root10:25
cpk2as sudo10:25
feetjust passwd10:25
feetas sudo, yes10:25
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twosouls82khirr: sudo passwd10:25
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cpk2pretty sure you want to specify root as whose password you are changing10:27
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twosouls82cpk2: you don't need to, just passwd will be root automatically10:27
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Carbon_MonoxideHail everybody10:28
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feetim off, thanks for the assistance fellas10:29
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Carbon_MonoxideI got some problem on install j2re and jdk on dapper, what is the suitable channel I should ask?10:29
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twosouls82Carbon_Monoxide: what is the problem?10:29
Dendronhey everyone. Firefox crashed on me. when i launch it again, my system says that its already running. So what do i type in the terminal to kill the firefox process?10:29
twosouls82Dendron: killall -9 firefox and restart it10:30
Amoritykillall firefox10:30
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cpk2not -9!10:30
cpk2unless it is misbehaving10:30
twosouls82since it is :D10:30
cpk2only use -9 when it wont die for sure10:30
Dendronwell i did sudo killall firefox AND it didnt work10:30
Amoritythen -9 it10:30
cpk2try doing kill pid10:31
twosouls82that's why the -910:31
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Amoritytry pid too10:31
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Dendronok let me try these. i dont wanna reboot, yah know10:31
cpk2i've never trusted killall anyways10:31
Amoritytry whatever :P10:31
cpk2Dendron: do ps aux and find firefox then do kill firefoxespidhere10:31
flaccidwith killall the process name needs to match eactly10:31
Carbon_MonoxideI have added the Multiverse repository, but it says "Some packages could not be installed"10:31
flaccidin this case firefoxis firefox-bin. so killall firefox-bin10:32
Dendronhey ps aux is pretty nifty =D10:32
DendronTry killall firefox-bin10:32
Dendronone sec10:32
twosouls82Carbon_Monoxide: have universe enabled too?10:32
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Carbon_Monoxidetwosouls82: yea10:32
Dendronok i did 'killall firefox-bin'10:33
Dendronit worked10:33
twosouls82Carbon_Monoxide: what is the exact error when you use the console to install those packages?10:33
Dendrondo what does ps aux mean? Like, whats it stand for?10:33
flaccidDendron: man ps10:34
andersgops waux is the *BSD style of ps -ef10:34
flaccidgood explantaation there on the aux thing10:34
Dendronman ps | festival --TTS    =D10:34
Carbon_Monoxidetwosouls82: It says "Some packages could not be installed."10:35
twosouls82Carbon_Monoxide: which are you trying to install?10:35
Dendronthanks everyone. once again you saved my life. i heart you all. heh   Adios for now10:35
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Carbon_MonoxideI had got Borland JBuilder installed, so I got Free-Java on my machine10:36
twosouls82Carbon_Monoxide: could be the conflict10:37
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twosouls82try removing that one first10:37
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tabiashow do I change the date in korganizer zo that google calendar shows up at the correct time (currently taking the utc time from the google calendar) (so online 10h my time will be 10h utc time in korganizer)10:38
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khirri'm Khirr10:38
twosouls82wb khirr10:39
khirri'm reinstaling Kubuntu :'(10:39
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khirrbut, i have my Particion :D10:39
Carbon_Monoxideso I should remove Free-Java or along with JBuilder?10:40
khirrcan i use JavaCreator in Kubuntu?10:40
twosouls82Carbon_Monoxide: I would do that, and then get sun-java installed, on succes.. reinstall jbuilder10:40
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Carbon_Monoxideokay, thanks for your advice, twosouls8210:42
twosouls82Carbon_Monoxide: I hope it will do10:42
khirrwhat is the speed diferente in Kubuntu AMD64 and 32bits?10:42
twosouls82khirr: small, I have a 64 but have 32 installed10:43
khirrme too10:43
khirri'm had intalled 64amd10:43
khirrbut, now i'm installing 3210:43
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twosouls82khirr: good choice.. support will get better as soon as all browser plugins are 64 bit available10:43
khirrwhen will be that?10:44
twosouls82or if there will be a 32 bit plugin loader for 64 bit systems10:44
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khirrwell guys, i have to sleep, in peru is 3:45 am ;S10:44
twosouls82khirr: well... I dunno.. but I don't expect them soon...10:44
twosouls82nighty night10:44
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khirrcya guys, thanks for the help10:45
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twosouls82!search build10:50
ubotuFound: build-essential,kernel,build-essentials,chroot,gnome,ftbs,daily build,builddep,build-dep,daily10:50
ubotubuild-dep is a handy APT tool that will try to automatically install build (compile) dependencies for you. In the terminal: sudo apt-get build-dep package10:50
twosouls82!search package10:50
ubotuFound: debconf,latest kde,kdeincludes,repos,apt,no, amarok,motu,aptitude,rpm,changelogs10:50
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flaccid!search flaccid10:51
flaccidthought i was nothing!10:51
twosouls82!fight flaccid twosouls8210:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fight flaccid twosouls82 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:52
twosouls82no google fights? :910:52
flaccidwhats a google fight10:52
twosouls82flaccid: that's a bot checking who appears the most on Google, used in some rooms here10:52
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flaccidah ok10:53
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flaccid!f1ght flaccid vs sex10:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about f1ght flaccid vs sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:54
twosouls82hehe, flaccid.. not here ;)10:56
twosouls82ubuntulinux.nl? since when is it Dutch?10:56
flaccidyou don't say10:57
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ukAdamFMorning/Evening/Afternoon all. Just a quick one.. any idea why KDE forgets my dns settings on every reboot? It was fine until I installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu.. now I have to continually reset it each morning :(11:03
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flaccidare you using dhcp?11:03
ukAdamFNo, it *should* be all static. It was under Ubuntu. It remembers my IP, gateway and netmask fine.. just has issues with dns11:04
cpk2ukAdamF: hmm does /etc/network/interfaces have what you are looking for?11:09
flaccidukAdamF: change it in System Settings > network11:09
cpk2might be able to set static dns there, although dns is stored in resolv.conf11:09
ukAdamFflaccid : That's the problem.. I have to do that every reboot. Even if I modify resolv.conf, next reboot, it's empty again.11:10
ukAdamFcpk2: Looking...11:10
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cpk2i suppose you could make a script to edit resolv.conf on every boot heh11:10
flaccidukAdamF: pastebin /etc/network/interfaces11:10
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cpk2i dunno if that interfaces file is the answer though11:11
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ukAdamFpastebin being sloooooooow.11:12
ukAdamFauto eth011:12
ukAdamFiface eth0 inet static11:12
ukAdamFis the important bit, it's set to static11:12
flaccidis that the only things in there11:13
ukAdamFno, lots more but didn't want to flood the channel. Still waiting for pastebin to take the submit..11:13
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maijanewhi, how can I convert file names from one encoding to other? My file names aftwr move to Kubuntu now look like "t?ext??.txt".11:14
ukAdamFhttp://adamf.pastebin.co.uk/3968      given up on .com11:15
cpk2ukAdamF: try adding the dns in there as well? =P11:16
ukAdamFWill certainly give it a go ;)11:17
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cpk2nevermind looks like interfaces doesnt allow a dns option in it11:17
ukAdamFah. That'll be why I can't find it in the manpage11:18
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flaccidcpk2: you can't add dns in interfaces. that is for resolv.conf11:18
flaccidwell at least thats what i thought11:18
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flaccidwhich interface is in question, ukAdamF11:19
flaccidyou are right. it is fine. do you run a vpn or any other services that change networking?11:20
ukAdamFUnder Gnome (wife uses it), it's fine. Under KDE, it forgets every reboot. So odd11:20
ukAdamFNo, it's pretty vanilla to be honest.11:20
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cpk2and kde just blanks resolv.conf?11:21
flaccidukAdamF: check logs. /var/log/syslog, /var/log/messages, /var/log/daemon.log11:22
flaccidtry to find what is doing it11:22
ukAdamFWell, I'm not saying KDE is responsible for that, but it happens each reboot and the symtoms began upon installing KDE.11:22
cpk2well maybe kde and gnome are fighting =P11:22
ukAdamFI wouldn't be surprised :P11:22
ukAdamFI'll have a rumage in the logs next boot11:22
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flaccidkde and gnome both use the system. ensure you have no network profiles being used with a network manager program11:23
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ukAdamFI've not really installed much to be honest, the system is only a few weeks old. I set up networking during the Ubuntu install, and hadn't touched it again since. (Until I installed kubuntu-desktop). There are other people out there experiencing the same problem, according to Google, but no answers as yet.11:24
flaccidcan you show me a page about these other people11:25
ukAdamFsure, 1 sec.11:25
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ukAdamFThere are some more, can't remember what I searched for for the rest. But iirc there are 2 'victims' in that thread alone.11:26
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ukAdamFNot sure if that's the right thread now.. can't find the Kubuntu reference11:27
ukAdamFbut this one might have my answers..11:27
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ukAdamFresolvconf, possibly.11:27
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flaccidyou should probably stop trying to blame kubuntu or blaming anything until you know what did it11:30
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ukAdamFI'm not blaming kubuntu, specifically. As I said the symptoms only began upon installing it. If I load up into Gnome, it's fine. Load KDE, doesn't work until I reset it in the control panel.11:30
ukAdamFWhile not conclusive, it's a reasonable assumption.11:31
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flaccidits not reasonable at all actually11:32
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flaccidsomething doesnt need to change for it to go bad11:32
flaccidassumptions are never good imo11:32
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flacciduntil you can find further information, i can't think of anything to do11:33
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ukAdamFIt hasn't 'gone bad', it was never right to begin with (under KDE). I'm not blaming anyone or anything, just pointing to the likely suspects. Either KDE itself, or something that installed with the kubuntu-desktop package, is causing problems.11:33
ukAdamFThat much is fact.11:33
flaccidwhen you go to network settings, are there any profiles in the network profiles tab?11:33
wedgeVwhere can i 2.6.18 or later -mm packages for ubuntu?11:34
flaccidgone bad was a figure of speech. anything could of caused this problem.. you have no idea what..11:34
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ukAdamFno, no profiles listed.11:34
flaccidthe likely suspects are anything that has access to /etc/resolv.conf11:35
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flacciddirectly or indirectly..11:35
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ukAdamFWe'll agree to differ on that point I think :)11:35
flaccidassume makes an ass out of u and me11:36
flaccidif you have heard that saying11:36
ukAdamFI am not assuming. it's a statement of fact than since installing it, it hasn't worked (right).11:36
flaccidyou mentioned that many times..11:36
ukAdamFRevert to Gnome, and all is good.11:36
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Smoophhi somebody here who know how to get OSS Sounds forwarded to ALSA with the aoss thingy?11:37
flaccidso if you boot up, log in to gnome, then log out of gnome, and then into kde is it ok for gnome but resolv.conf goes blank for kde?11:38
Carbon_MonoxideExcuse me, what is the best channel I should ask to when I got a problem on install Sun-Java?11:38
flaccidCarbon_Monoxide: here11:38
flaccidor #java if its not in the ubuntu sources11:38
Carbon_Monoxideflaccid: Hello11:38
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Carbon_MonoxideI'm trying to install the Sun-Java on dapper repostitory11:39
flaccidand the problem CM?11:39
Carbon_MonoxideI got dependency problem11:40
Carbon_Monoxidesun-java5-bin: Depends: unixodbc but it is not installable11:40
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Carbon_Monoxideseems that I need the UnixODBC, but it failed to grap it11:40
wedgeVSmooph: you just start the application with "aoss <application>"11:41
flaccidCM: what is the output of sudo dpkg -l | grep -i unixodbc11:41
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Smoophwhat if it doesn't work11:41
wedgeVdoes sound work in alsa?11:41
Carbon_Monoxideflaccid: no return11:42
cpk2Carbon_Monoxide: sudo apt-get install unixodbc doesnt work?11:42
flaccidCarbon_Monoxide: try sudo apt-get install unixodbc11:42
Smoophthing is I tried to have my teamspeak running with aoss so I can have games running under wine too but it doesn't work11:42
|Mikael|mplayer doesn't play audio on dvd11:42
wedgeVyou can setup wine to use alsa11:43
|Mikael|what to do? i searched google, but couldn't find any solution11:43
Carbon_Monoxidecpk2: I got a message saying "odbcinst1debian1" is replacing it11:43
|Mikael|wedgeV: for example amarok doesn't play sound over wine11:43
|Mikael|only if i change wine to alsa11:43
|Mikael|oh :)11:44
Smoophsure but cannot setup teamspeak to use alsa wedgeV11:44
|Mikael|any one any ide?11:44
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|Mikael|ide == idea?11:44
cpk2hrmm, are you using that particular one for a reason?11:44
wedgeVSmooph: is teamspeak a linux or a windows app?11:44
cpk2wedgeV: its both11:44
wedgeV|Mikael|: mplayer -ao alsa ?11:45
m4x1mum_ok people whats a good download manager ?11:45
flaccidCM: weird. i have both installed.11:45
cpk2m4x1mum_: i just use kget11:45
wedgeVand the linux one doenst support alsa?11:45
|Mikael|wedgeV: will try it11:45
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m4x1mum_hmm is it installed by default?11:45
Carbon_MonoxidePackage unixodbc is not available, but is referred to by another package.11:45
Smoophno you can specifie your alternative sound device but I don't know how11:46
ubotuunixodbc: ODBC tools libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.11-11build1 (dapper), package size 262 kB, installed size 780 kB11:46
wedgeVif your soundcard only has one playback channel you probably want to configure also to use dmix11:46
Carbon_Monoxideperhaps it;s not on the repositories in my list?11:46
Smoophand i don't think it works something like "/dev/sound/alsa"11:46
wedgeVSmooph: well, i dont know teamspeak11:46
cpk2!info unixodbc11:46
flaccidwell its from main, so you have that right?11:46
flaccidCarbon_Monoxide: does sudo apt-get install unixodbc odbcinst1debian1 work?11:46
m4x1mum_does kget automatically rename files if the files going to be downloaded have the same filename in the harddisk?11:47
Carbon_Monoxide!info unixodbc doesn't work11:47
ubotuunixodbc: ODBC tools libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.11-11build1 (dapper), package size 262 kB, installed size 780 kB11:47
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flaccidCarbon_Monoxide: thats because its for ubotu in this channel11:48
cpk2m4x1mum_: dont know, I rarely use it really =P11:48
m4x1mum_ooh ok11:48
Carbon_Monoxideflaccid: I tried 'sudo apt-get install unixodbc odbcinst1debian1' and got the same result11:48
|Mikael|wedgeV: lol mplayer hangs (even with killall)11:48
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ubotuodbcinst1debian1: Support library and helper program for accessing odbc ini files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.11-11build1 (dapper), package size 62 kB, installed size 240 kB11:48
wedgeVkillall -KILL11:48
|Mikael|it shows broadcast error flags like on tv at midknight11:48
flaccidCarbon_Monoxide: is main in your sources?11:49
|Mikael|wedgeV: Ok. it's gone11:49
wedgeV|Mikael|: i always use vlc to play dvds11:49
|Mikael|wedgeV: maybe it doesn't work because i use berel xgl?11:49
|Mikael|wedgeV: then i will try vlc - kaffeeine did'nt play any sound too11:50
|Mikael|anyway it try it11:50
wedgeVwell, does anythinh play any sound?11:50
Carbon_Monoxideyes, main restrictied repostory is in my sources.list11:50
|Mikael|wedgeV: yes xmms/amarok11:50
cpk2|Mikael|: does kaffeine or mplayer play sound after amarok/xmms is closed?11:51
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cpk2whoa I just found out that the amarok logo in the toolbar by the clock "empties" the closer to the end of the song you get11:52
flaccidCarbon_Monoxide: just in case make sure these are in your list. i'll send it to you by pm.11:52
cpk2I am using more than 1 sound stream at once without any problems...11:52
wedgeVcpk2: what soundcard?11:52
|Mikael|cpk2: no11:53
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wedgeVcpk2: cat /proc/asound/pcm | grep playback11:53
felixjetwhere is the Auto Start of kubuntu ?11:53
wedgeVhow many playback channels do you have?11:53
wedgeVdo you have  ~/.asound* stuff?11:54
twosouls82felixjet: for kde's autostart ~/.Autostart11:54
felixjeti dont have it :S11:55
twosouls82felixjet: my bad, I meant; ~/.kde/Autostart/11:55
cpk2wedgeV: nope =D i did absolutely nothing to configure any sound and multiple streams works fine XD11:55
felixjettwosouls82:  how i add things? placing a lnk ?11:56
twosouls82felixjet: use konqueror to browse to it, their you can add a link -indeed- using right click -> new link to application11:56
fulat2khi folks, i have setup lvm on kubuntu dapper.  i'll be changing my mobo soon.  was wondering if the lvm will stay intact after the upgrade?11:57
felixjettwosouls82:  ok ty11:57
twosouls82felixjet: np ;)(11:57
cpk2twosouls82: so is it odd that I have multiple streams with no problem? =P11:57
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SmoophwedgeV: OK I am testing your asoundrc hope it works thanks cya in a bit11:58
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cpk2twosouls82: oops you werent the one talking to me hahaha11:58
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wedgeVcpk2:  can you run several 'aplay'  simultaniously?11:59
wedgeVcpk2: well, it never worked for me11:59
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cpk2aplay? I can play amarok and kaffeine at the same time11:59
wedgeVexcept when using a audigy with 32 playback channels11:59
cpk2with sound from both11:59
wedgeVcan you try aplay ?11:59
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twosouls82cpk2: aplay does fine12:00
twosouls82eeeuhm wedgeV I meant12:00
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twosouls82wedgeV: do you get stdout when trying to use the app with no sound?12:01
wedgeVsound works for me :)12:01
twosouls82oops big time :D12:01
wedgeVbut i had to setup dmixer for alsa to get multiple apps playing12:01
ukAdamFOk here's an easy one :P12:02
twosouls82:s wtf, I never needed that wedgeV, in years.. why was that?12:02
twosouls82does it make sence to you?12:02
ukAdamFUnder Gnome, xchat links open in FireFox. Under KDE, they open in Konq.. how can I change that? ;)12:02
wedgeVtwosouls82: maybe all your apps play through artsd12:03
twosouls82nope, arts is not installed12:03
wedgeVtwosouls82:  cat /proc/asound/pcm | grep playback12:03
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twosouls8200-00: VIA 8237 : VIA 8237 : playback 4 : capture 112:03
twosouls8200-01: VIA 8237 : VIA 8237 : playback 1 : capture 112:03
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wedgeVtwosouls82: try playing from more then 4 sources then12:04
twosouls82hehehe... will try mythtv too12:04
wedgeVunless dmixer is setup somehow, or you use a audio daemon, it wont work12:04
cpk2aplay gives me static12:05
cpk2is there a flag I am supposed to use for mp3s?12:05
cpk2because -t mp3 didnt work12:05
wedgeVit only plays wave12:05
twosouls82cpk2: you will need extra codecs12:05
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:05
wedgeVdo you have mpg123 installed?12:06
cpk2I have mp3 codecs12:06
cpk2I play mp3s in amarok12:06
wedgeVaplay can only play wav12:06
cpk2wedgeV: the man makes it quite obvious that it plays other formats =P12:06
wedgeVoh, ok12:07
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cpk2but it looks like it doesnt do mp3 heh12:07
cpk2wav raw au and something else that i forget12:07
twosouls82wedgeV: even with 7 apps using sound, the output of 'cat /proc/asound/pcm | grep playback' doesn't change12:08
twosouls82and all work fine12:08
wedgeVtwosouls82: hmm...12:08
twosouls82told you12:08
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wedgeVtwosouls82: do you have a /etc/asoundrc12:09
cpk2ok, i found a wav to play while amarok was going and it worked12:09
twosouls82wedgeV: no; No such file or directory12:10
wedgeVor ~/.asoundrc ?12:10
wedgeVcpk2: what output plugin do you use in amarok?12:10
twosouls82wedgeV: neither12:10
wedgeVweird indeed12:10
twosouls82all works out of the box12:11
cpk2its on autodetect12:11
cpk2and i dont have any of those files either12:11
twosouls82cpk2: use the xine engine to be sure12:11
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wedgeVcan you try to set it to use alsa?12:11
cpk2I am using xine engine and then its on auto12:11
twosouls82cpk2: you don't need them.. works here, without those, so12:11
wedgeVtry xine and alsa12:12
twosouls82yup indeed12:12
wedgeVand try playing aplay when playing with amarok12:12
cpk2its on xine and alsa and playing, turning on aplay...12:12
cpk2and 2 streams is no problem12:12
twosouls82:D and more?12:12
cpk2i started kaffeine too12:13
cpk23 streams and its fine =P12:13
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cpk2and who knows if gaim and konversation still try to tie up the sound even with the sound on them off12:13
twosouls82cpk2: use alsa whenever you can instead of 'auto', I mean for all apps... and use xine where possible (better sound and threading)12:14
wedgeVwell, i have no idea how thats working for you12:14
cpk2well, i never bothered configuring the sound stuff on amarok since it "just worked"12:14
twosouls82lazy ass12:14
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twosouls82cpk2: alsa and xine take care of it all, no extra config needed mate12:15
Sharketora question for you12:15
twosouls82lo Sharketor12:15
SharketorHow can I see the hidden files?12:15
cpk2well not changing it is even better than having to change from "auto" to "alsa"12:15
Sharketorctrl-h doesnt work12:16
cpk2Sharketor: in konq or on a command line?12:16
twosouls82cpk2: you have oss too, I assume that is auto12:16
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wedgeVcpk2:  can you /msg me your 'aplay -L' output ?12:16
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twosouls82Sharketor: View -> show hidden files12:16
wedgeVor use that12:16
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Sharketorok thanks12:18
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cpk2its pretty long12:18
twosouls82later ppl12:18
cpk2twosouls82: whats the difference between oss and alsa?12:18
wedgeVyou have dmixer configured12:18
cpk2and how do I find out what auto points to?12:19
cpk2wedgeV: then I guess ubuntu does do it for you =P12:19
wedgeVbut it doesnt for me12:19
cpk2because I have no clue how to set up dmixer12:19
cpk2because in fedora only having one stream pissed me off and I finally tried to fix it and never managed to12:20
cpk2so when it comes to getting multiple streams I am clueless heh12:20
wedgeVoh, alsa automatically uses dmix now12:20
wedgeVmaybe it wasnt working for me because of oss apps12:21
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wedgeVcpk2: can you try running 2 instances of mpg123-oss ?12:21
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cpk2wedgeV: eh?12:22
wedgeVmpg123-oss <mp3file> & mpg123-oss <othermp3file>12:22
morghanphoenixAny recomendations for a distro to use on this PII I've got sitting here, Kubuntu isn't going to cut it.12:23
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cpk2i dont have mpg123-oss12:24
cpk2wedgeV: I hope you can figure out how to get 2 streams =\ i remember only having one was pretty annoying/frustrating for me =(12:26
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Dsbeerfhi someone can help me ? i have two sound card and sometime on reboot it switch card how to select default card ?12:37
zenwhy do you have 2 sound cards12:38
Dsbeerfim a mixer music editor i need i to do some job12:39
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zenwell as far as i know you need to do it in root so enable root log in and log into root and then change the sound options12:41
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berkeswhat is the best way to find installed packages ordered by size?12:54
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berkesI want to do some house cleaning and want to remove the largest (unused) packages.12:55
Torched_just buy a new hard drive12:58
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berkesTorched_: yea. lets just install everything.01:04
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Nickstehi all01:04
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NicksteCan I do this with my kubuntu desktop: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0ZtcxHUSDQ01:05
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nebicomo conecto al canal espaol de kubuntu01:07
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Nickstedo u have to be registered to post in this channel?01:07
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apokryphosNickste: yes01:08
apokryphosas in no you don't have to be registered, and yes you can do that with kubuntu01:08
Nicksteah :)01:09
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ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems01:10
Nickstethank you :)01:10
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Tallia1Kubuntuhello guys, hope somebody of you can help me understanding this problem with basic networking: at boot time this error shows up ( the system starts correctly anyway ): http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/Wsg6Ns42.html can anybody help me understanding how to fix it?01:16
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Tallia1Kubuntuhere it is a copy of my /etc/network/interfaces too: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/AVtm0g20.html01:18
ubuntuno luck with 6.10 installation hangs after language selection01:19
ubuntuany ideas, the machine was running 6.06 without any problems01:19
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ubotuChannel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs01:20
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HobbseeTallia1Kubuntu: try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart, instead?01:21
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Tallia1KubuntuHobbsee: here it is the output: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/NORLyh31.html01:22
Tallia1KubuntuHobbsee: what do you think?01:23
HobbseeTallia1Kubuntu: want to pastebin /etc/networking/interfaces?01:24
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Tallia1Kubuntu[13:22]  <Tallia1Kubuntu> here it is a copy of my /etc/network/interfaces too: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/AVtm0g20.html01:24
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Tallia1KubuntuHobbsee: any idea?01:26
HobbseeTallia1Kubuntu: no, sorry.  that all looks fine01:27
Tallia1Kubuntuyeah, and you know what it is even more weird?01:27
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Tallia1Kubuntuwhen i go in the networking module with this settings: http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshotos2.png01:29
Tallia1Kubuntuand i apply them, or if i write directly ifconfig eth1 netmask nothing works01:30
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Tallia1Kubuntuwhile when i go in the wireless setting module and i choose the same settings, everything works fine01:30
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Tallia1Kubuntuwhen i use dhclient to "refresh" my connection i use to kill all the dhclient processes and then "sudo dhclient eth1 "01:31
Tallia1Kubuntuin the case of static ip is "ifconfig eth1 netmask" wrong? considering that is a wireless connection..01:31
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ralphbenello everyone!!01:32
ralphbenanybody has some tricks to speed up the graphics in X when running kubuntu in vmware?01:32
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morghanphoenixx11 libraries or header files could not be found. Make sure x11 development package is installed on your system.01:35
morghanphoenixWhat's the package name for x11 development libraries?01:35
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sebbarhello everybody01:36
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ubotukmyfirewall: iptables based firewall configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1214 kB, installed size 4060 kB01:36
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crustygood morning! at least on this side of the world...now on kubuntu need info01:36
sam_on this side of the world its 2pm01:37
crustysorry! new on cubuntu need help01:37
sebbarI've got a strange problem on my pc with kubuntu edgy: the master channel of kmix doesn't change the sound volume at all, whereas the PCM channel does. Anybody knows hot to fix this?01:38
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crustyhalhallo sam! have you got some time for me?01:38
tn3270crusty : just ask, someone will jump in hopefully01:39
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crustyok! i explane the problem anyway01:40
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nicksteis there any way to make downloads, from update repositories, multithreaded?01:42
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snikkerhow can i read a data from ttyS0? i've used minicom but it don't work01:42
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nicksteWhat version of KDE does dapper use?01:45
morghanphoenixIf I just used make on something and want to remove it, how do I?01:46
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abattoirnickste: Dapper shipped w/ KDE 3.5.201:48
abattoirnickste: 3.5.4 is the latest available stable release for it01:49
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abattoirmorghanphoenix: make clean, i think01:50
morghanphoenixThanks, apt-get remove was right out the window on that one.01:50
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morghanphoenixBut I did just sucessfully install from source for the first time, so I'm happy even if I have to remove it.01:52
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wildchildhow can I check if my drivers for nvidia are allready installed?01:52
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nicksteabattoir: does dapper update to 3.5.4?01:52
lunitikIt depends outdated -industrial and -crystal packages... any idea when these deps will be fixed... (and why its depending -industrial at all..)01:53
morghanphoenixMine only seems to update to 3.5.301:53
lunitiknickste: Riddell probably has packages for 3.5.4 ... its also in Edgy...01:53
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nicksteand updating to edgy, from dapper... is it a big download?01:54
lunitiknickste: yes01:54
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nickstedoh :(01:54
Kubuhigi@HIGILINUX:~$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper01:54
KubuFATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko': No such file or director01:54
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Kubuanyone knows why it tells me this01:55
abattoirnickste: yes, it does....01:55
lunitiknickste: it would likely take 40 mins AT LEAST even on cable....01:55
crustyok! my linux pc is part of a LAN...and conect to interner through a windows computer. I'm having problen with windows firewall with prevent AMULE to recive HI-ID. What can i do?01:55
abattoirnickste: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php01:55
nicksteand on 384 adsl in south africa?!01:55
abattoirKubu: you dont have the ndiswrapper module in that location01:55
lunitikabattoir: any idea the usplash config file?01:55
Kubuhow do i put it there?01:55
Kubui have installed ndiswrapper through synaptic01:55
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lunitikKubu: dpkg -L ndiswrapper | grep *.ko  .... where does it say it put it?01:57
Kubuit tells me ndiswrapper is not installed01:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botslap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:58
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abattoirlunitik: i think you specify the resolution in your menu.lst(grub), not sure though01:59
abattoirKubu: make sure you have ndiswrapper-utils and linux-restricted-modules installed01:59
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lunitikabattoir: I'm like 90% sure there is a usplash config file someplace actually... with regular ubuntu, it actually disobeys they setting in there... (sets to 1024x768 despite no setting in menu.lst)02:00
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DexterFwhen I tell Adept to install build-essentials it wants to install "linux-kernel-headers"02:00
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DexterFbut 2.6.11-headers. which is wrong. I need 2.6.15-27-k7 headers02:00
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abattoirlunitik: see if you have /etc/usplash.conf02:01
DexterFwhcih are installed. I'm pretty sure they will conflict. what should I do02:01
Kubuhow do i get linux-restricted-drivers, i dunno i have them abattoir02:01
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abattoirDexterF: i think l-k-h is the metapackage, where do you get 2.6.11? dapper shipped with 1502:02
SpentCasingshould i upgrade to dapper? im on breezy now02:02
lunitikabattoir: dpkg -S /etc/usplash.conf says its not found... but it tab completed, and had contents... weird...02:03
Kubuive got them02:03
DexterFabattoir: how should I know? that's what shows up in Adept.02:03
lunitikabattoir: surely usplash or kubuntu-artwork-usplash should have installed it?02:03
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abattoirKubu: linux-restricted-modules-<your kernel version> check if you have that installed02:04
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abattoirDexterF: ok, try installing it02:04
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Kubuyes i do02:05
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SpentCasingis ver. 6.06 much better than 5.10? should i upgrade?02:05
abattoirKubu: could you check if the ndiswrapper.ko file is present in the mentioned location?02:06
Kubuits not!02:06
[GuS] Bonjour...02:06
Kubuactually it is02:06
abattoirSpentCasing: it has newer versions of software and many bugfixes, so kinda, yes02:06
Kubuits here02:06
Kubu /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/02:06
abattoirKubu: could you do a 'uname -r' in a terminal and post the output here?02:06
exceswaterhello guys02:07
exceswateri need some help from you...02:07
Dendronhey everyone02:07
exceswateri have a problem with my kubuntu02:07
DendronWhen i use this java applet, the sound is scratchy and jittery and not good. How do i tell JAVA to use a specific sound server (ALSA) http://vnes.thatsanderskid.com/02:07
exceswaterwhen it starts02:07
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DendronClick english games on top left, then select any game on left. JAva applet loads, loads game ROM, and starts and sound is crap.02:08
DexterFabattoir: I had it installed. then tried to install vmware-tools which require a build toolchain. it complained about the headers, whereever I pointed it02:08
exceswatercan u help me guys02:08
lunitikBLAH... it works now on shutdown... but its ignoring the config on startup... still saying it doesn't have an image for 640x480... lame02:08
DexterFthe ones in /usrc/include wouldnt work, the ones in /usr/src/linux/include neither02:08
nickstehow do I get kubuntu to use the fglrx driver that I have just downloaded. (used apt-get to install it)02:08
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:09
Kubuabattoir: /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/02:09
lunitiknickste: just enter 'fglrx' as Driver for video card setting in /etc/X11/xorg.conf though... assuming its loaded...02:10
Kubuthe modprobe looks at 2.6.15-2702:10
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lunitiknickste: thats likely not the prefered way though02:10
Kubui mean the other way round02:10
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:10
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abattoirDexterF: you are trying to install b-e or l-k-h ?02:10
abattoirKubu: what kernel are you running now? where does ndiswrapper look?02:11
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nickstethanks lunitik02:11
abattoirlunitik: splash worked?02:11
SpentCasingwhat's the site to i can edit my sources list and apt-get dist-upgrade?02:11
lunitikabattoir: scroll up02:12
abattoirSpentCasing: what do you want to do exactly?02:12
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abattoirSpentCasing: get a 'fresh' sources.list?02:12
DexterFabattoir: b-e. dep on that header package02:12
Kubuive copied it into the other kernel02:12
lunitikSpentCasing: what do you want to do?02:12
Kubunow its working i think02:12
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abattoirKubu: ugh, it generally doesn't work that way :P02:12
lunitikSpentCasing: edgy is still development software... if you can't figure out how to install, you probably shouldn't02:12
SpentCasingabattoir: i cant apt-get dist-upgrade, so im assuming i need to change my list02:13
lunitikSpentCasing: there is no other reason to dist-upgrade02:13
SpentCasingim on brezzy 5.1002:13
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abattoirSpentCasing: are you trying to upgrade to dapper/edgy?02:13
lunitikSpentCasing: /etc/apt/sources.list ... all cases of 'breezy' change to 'dapper'02:13
lunitikabattoir: you think he should be running edgy? heh02:14
abattoirlunitik: no, i'm asking him what he is trying to do02:14
MoatazI want to but a DVDRW, Will it be detected automatically after installation? or I need to take certain steps or even reinstall the os?02:14
SpentCasingabattoir: i just want to upgrade from breezy to dapper02:14
lunitikMoataz: data dvd's will work ootb02:14
abattoirMoataz: should be detected02:14
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lunitikSpentCasing: see what I just said02:15
ubotuUpgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes02:15
SpentCasinglunitik: right02:15
abattoirSpentCasing: ^^^ follow the instructions for breezy->dapper02:15
Moatazand i will be able to burn discs instanty?02:15
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morghanphoenixwould a breezy package work right on dapper? Fluxbox specifically.02:15
lunitikmorghanphoenix: unlikely02:16
lunitikmorghanphoenix: do libc's match on dapper and breezy?02:16
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Moatazjust for my information, does installing a new cpu requires reinstalling the os also?02:16
morghanphoenixUnsure, I never used breezy.02:16
BazziRMoataz: usually not02:16
lunitikMoataz: no02:16
felixjetmmmm, how can i see the videos of windows media ? that online videos in the websites02:17
lunitikBazziR: can you think of a case where the answer would be "yes"?02:17
Moatazso i only need that if the motherboard fails and i get a new one?02:17
lunitikfelixjet: w32codecs02:17
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BazziRlunitik: going 32->64bit and wanting a 64bit OS ;)02:17
lunitikMoataz: just swap harddrives... and install a new kernel02:17
abattoirlunitik: or a new harddisk :P02:17
twosouls82lunitik: when the new is 64 instead of 32 bit and you want the system to be 64bit02:17
felixjetlunitik: thats the codec... i need the windows media plugin for firefox02:17
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Moatazlunitik: that for a new cpu or a motherboard?02:18
DexterFhow do I get the file list of a not installed package at the cli?02:18
twosouls82hehe someone beat me02:18
DexterFdpkg -c won't work02:18
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lunitiktwosouls82: then you will probably just reinstall... sure... but today... 64bit software outside the kernel gives you very little performance difference02:18
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lunitikDexterF: surely its easier to use apt-file to search for the file instead?02:19
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DexterFlunitik: I want the entire content of a package, not a file02:19
twosouls82lunitik: true and since I don't like the hassle, I have a 32 bit 64 bit sys02:20
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lunitikIn almost 6 years... never02:22
DexterFgood for you.02:22
lunitikDexterF: what are you trying to actually do?] 02:22
twosouls82dpkg -L <pkname>02:23
lunitikDexterF: still looking for where ndiswrapper put the file?02:23
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DexterFwanna see where the files of a package would go if I installed it02:23
lunitiktwosouls82: thats for installed packages02:23
twosouls82true, and he didn't ask that?02:23
twosouls82my bad02:23
DexterFhuh? ndiswrapper?02:23
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twosouls82DexterF: use http://packages.ubuntu.com/02:24
twosouls82it has a nice form to query the files02:24
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DexterFI suspect the package to fuck up things if I install it. Look, I just wanna do it, not explain why, ok?02:25
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twosouls82amen DexterF02:25
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DexterFtwosouls82: link almost slipped by my attention over this "discussion"... thanks02:26
twosouls82DexterF: it isn't even a odd question, hence the page ;)02:26
DexterFits a dapper package?!02:27
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DendronI anyone else getting garbled sound when running this Ninetendo emulator. This site lets you play NES ROMS from their list. Its sweet. Just sound is messy. Someone check to confirm. http://vnes.thatsanderskid.com/02:27
lunitiktwosouls82: where do I recognize your name from? planetkde perhaps?02:27
twosouls82heh beats me lunitik02:27
morghanphoenixI get garbled sound whenever I run anything except for MP3 & DVDs02:27
DexterF(should mention I only have kub in a vm so I can support friends to whom I recommended it... I usually run Slackware...)02:27
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twosouls82DexterF: rather not tell that :P02:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about start - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:28
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twosouls82DexterF: what was confusing you?02:29
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DexterFtwosouls82: me :P I was thinking dapper was 5.10 for a moment. nevermind.02:29
DexterFstill boggles my mind why there's 2.6.11 headers in dapper02:29
DexterFas, like someone mentioned it was shipped with 2.6.1502:29
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lunitikDexterF: I don't see that site giving me ROM's to download? If you can download them, tried zsnes?02:30
msmhi all02:30
twosouls82DexterF: :) dunno, I had 2.6.15 since the start02:30
DexterFlunitik: ???02:30
msmExcuse me! Should someone say me how to set Firefox as default browser on kubuntu?02:30
lunitikDexterF: where did I lose you?02:30
morghanphoenixsnes9xexpress works great.02:31
DexterFlunitik: ROMs?02:31
twosouls82msm: set it in kcontrol02:31
lunitikDexterF: game images...02:31
DexterFwhat are you on about?02:31
twosouls82lunitik: pay attention dude, it was Dendron02:31
lunitikDexterF: you're trying to use a Nintendo emulator... and don't know about ROM's?02:31
morghanphoenixWrong capital D02:32
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twosouls82may that be the quote of the year "Wrong capital D" :P02:32
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twosouls82hi girl_next_door02:33
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msmtwosouls82: in which item I can find this setting?02:33
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lunitikmsm: KControl > KDE Components > File Assosiations > text > html ... remove Konqi from its list...02:34
twosouls82kcontrol -> kde components -> component chooser -> web browser02:34
morghanphoenixwhat's the diferance between gzip & bzip2?02:34
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twosouls82and don't listen to that lunitik solution02:34
msmtwosouls82: Ok thanks. bye02:34
Dexter_Fah, great, my ISP fscked up again...02:34
lunitikmorghanphoenix: pretty much everything except its goal02:34
lunitiktwosouls82: your method works... as does mine  :/02:34
twosouls82lunitik: this IS the way02:35
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twosouls82and he asked for that02:35
twosouls82not A solution02:35
Dexter_Fmsm: in kcontrol, kde components02:35
lunitiktwosouls82: whatever...02:35
morghanphoenixTrying to install something and I've got two identical packages, except for extension.02:35
lunitiktwosouls82: in kde there is at least 4 ways to do everything... calling your way the right way is idiotic02:36
twosouls82lunitik: you should join a club that want to discuss things like that02:36
lunitiktwosouls82: both methods change the same config file btw02:36
morghanphoenixThere's only one thing that's always the right way02:36
morghanphoenixAnd that's making backups02:37
morghanphoenixAlways the right thing to do02:37
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comadoreHI Can somebody tell me how to off X serwer ??02:38
Dexter_Fhow to what?02:38
comadorebecouse i can't install NVIDIA drivers02:38
lunitikcomadore: /etc/init.d/kdm stop02:38
comadoreok ;)02:38
lunitikcomadore: stick sudo infront of that02:38
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lunitikcomadore: just to get X going though... can just use 'nv' as video Driver...02:39
lunitikcomadore: won't get you 3d prettiness... but it'll work02:39
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comadoreStopping K Display Manager: kdm not running/etc/init.d/kdm: line 109: kill: (4779) - Operacja niedozwolona02:40
comadorewjat have i do ?02:40
lunitiktwosouls82: ahh... from your(?) emoticon set...02:40
lunitikcomadore: then X shouldn't be running?02:40
twosouls82lunitik: might be.. but remember all emoticons are stolen except for the clown02:40
comadoreX must be off..02:41
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twosouls82comadore: you could try "/etc/init.d/x11-common stop"02:42
lunitiktwosouls82: works for me... most of my contacts are on MSN... nice to actually see their emoticons... I make my own sets by merging a bunch anyways02:42
lunitikcomadore: ps -e | grep X02:42
twosouls82lunitik: tell me when you do.. I will remove mine by then02:42
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lunitikcomadore: return anything?02:42
lunitiktwosouls82: heh... I don't upload them anywhere... would likely offend lots of people stealing from like 20 sets...02:43
comadorelutnik  PL ??02:43
lunitikcomadore: what?02:43
twosouls82lunitik: then let me know, and I will upload it02:43
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lunitikcomadore: did 'ps -e | grep X' return anything?02:43
comadoreif i used command like "xkill" and i push on my background how i can run again ?;/02:44
twosouls82or even 'pidof X'02:44
lunitiktwosouls82: no, because X isn't the process name  ;)02:44
lunitiktwosouls82: I'm just too lazy to type Xorg02:44
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twosouls82pidof X02:44
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nicksteI'm busy using this guide: http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=20060426000315224  to install XGL and Compiz. I'm getting an error in that it can't find the cgwd package. Any ideas?02:45
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lunitiktwosouls82: that shouldn't work... because its not the process name... thats like pidof a returning amaroks process id  :/02:45
twosouls82pidof Xorg02:46
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lunitik!find cgwd02:47
morghanphoenixMoment of truth, resetting to see if everything works, glad I have backups just in case.02:47
ubotuPackage/file cgwd does not exist in dapper02:48
lunitik!search cgwd02:48
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lunitik!find cgwd edgy02:48
ubotuPackage/file cgwd does not exist in edgy02:48
nickstedoh :(02:48
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nicksteit says I need these repositories: deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/ dapper main & deb http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main  ... which i have done02:49
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twosouls82lunitik: it IS NOT... don't just tell ppl something... instead look at 'dpkg -L xserver-xorg | grep xorg' and at 'dpkg -L xserver-xorg | grep X' and see the truth02:49
nevenacao svima02:50
lunitiktwosouls82: ps -e | grep X   :/02:50
twosouls82lunitik: that is only the formal name of the server... that's why it is stated xorg there02:51
twosouls82that aren't the binaries names02:51
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lunitiknickste: updated after adding?02:52
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nicksteyep... just read now on beerorkid that you need to add "main-amd64" on the end of its' repository02:53
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ubotumail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com02:54
fpiadminhello !02:54
nickstelunatik: explain more please02:54
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fpiadminI am looking for the command line 'mail' command02:54
fpiadminin what package is that ??02:54
Dexter_Ffpiadmin: sendmail, I think02:55
fpiadminnot 'THE' sendmail ?02:55
lunitiknickste: Xgl feels hackish... AIGLX is more thought out, and is merged into X tree02:55
Dexter_Ffpiadmin: no, the other sendmail02:55
lunitikfpiadmin: most MTA's link to /usr/bin/sendmail for compatibility reasons02:55
nicksteok... I'm using this tut: http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=20060426000315224 to get a "pimped" desktop... can I do the same with AIGLX, and if so.. how?02:55
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lunitikfpiadmin: also /usr/bin/mail etc also02:56
fpiadminhm apt-get install sendmail installs 'THE' sendmail, I don't need that, just need the 'mail' command02:56
fpiadminI am sure it exists outside 'THE sendmail'02:56
khirrhow can i change my pass since konsole?02:56
fpiadminyeah but in (k)ubuntu 6.06 it's not standard avaiable02:57
lunitikfpiadmin: Compiz is what creates the effects... Xgl and AIGLX are simply backend's providing the ability.02:57
khirrsudo passwd?02:57
fpiadminI just want my script to be able to mail stuff without installing sendsnail02:57
khirrwhat is the command to change the pass?02:57
Dexter_Fjust passwd02:57
flaccidfpiadmin: you need a local MTA of some sort on linux02:57
lunitikfpiadmin: postfix and exim both link to sendmail... using 'sendmail' would work... and would use whatever mta you have installed...02:57
lunitikfpiadmin: ls -l /usr/bin/sendmail and /usr/bin/mail02:58
lunitikHmm, actually my Kubuntu box doesn't have that symlink  :/02:58
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flaccidscripts should call sendmail binary and not mail :)02:59
flaccidit just needs to be a sendmail compatible MTA02:59
fpiadminluntik: I have no /usr/bin/sendmail or /usr/bin/mail03:01
fpiadminluntik: I apt-get install postifx, but doesn't give mail or sendmail command03:01
lunitikfpiadmin: install postfix or (prefered mta)03:01
lunitikfpiadmin: Kubuntu doesn't install one by default apparently03:01
fpiadminluntik: I think the 'mail' command is gone since 6.0603:01
fpiadminluntik: duh !03:01
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lunitikfpiadmin: duh? I think its bad actually... users have to actually pay attention to log files instead of being sent mail about any issues...03:02
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lunitikfpiadmin: not having it listen to external ports is one thing... its useful though03:03
flaccidfpiadmin: symlink it03:03
khirrone more error03:03
khirri cant install opera03:03
khirrsay dpkg is using pot other process03:03
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khirrand i dont have other process runing03:03
ceHi, i have some trouble to spindown my disk.. i have a thinkpad z61m with sata. Anyone know the problem? hdparm just give errors03:03
fpiadminflaccid: symlik it ? as in 'ln -s it mail' ?03:04
khirris for 32its version?03:05
lunitikkhirr: sudo pkill dpkg ; sudo dpkg -i opera-whatever.deb03:05
lunitikfpiadmin: ln -s /usr/bin/postfix /usr/bin/sendmail03:05
fpiadminluntik: pay attention to log files ?03:05
khirri'll check03:05
lunitikfpiadmin: umm, yeah03:05
lunitikfpiadmin: unless you don't care about security and errors etc...03:06
fpiadminluntik: I feed them into splunk03:06
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lunitikkhirr: stick 'sudo' infront and try again03:07
lunitikwrong issue....03:07
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Dexter_Flunitik: dude you didn't just recommend someone to kill off dpkg without checking if its doing something critical like upgrading packages or so?03:08
lunitikkhirr: why does it say dpkg doesn't wanna die?03:08
Dexter_Fkhirr: stop it03:08
khirri dunno03:08
lunitikDexter_F: why not? god invented dpkg -f install for a reason  :/03:08
Dexter_Fkhirr: you most likely have dpkg running on a console doing something. find it. end it *porperly*03:08
flaccidfpiadmin: yes03:08
khirrif i restart, the proccess will die?03:08
lunitikkhirr: just do what I said  :/03:09
khirri did03:09
khirrbut cant stop03:09
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flaccidheh splunk rules the world. pitty its so expensive03:09
lunitikkhirr: why does it say it can't stop?03:09
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khirri've closed all konsole03:09
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lunitikkhirr: umm... then fire one up and do it again  :/03:10
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khirri'll restart03:10
khirrlets see03:10
lunitikkhirr: no need to restart!!!!!!!03:10
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lunitikDexter_F: If it was doing something important, it would have been done by now... else user would at least KNOW what its doing...03:11
lunitikDexter_F: I fail to see the drama in what I recommended? You're new to Debian huh?03:11
Dexter_Fno, I'm new to Kub.03:12
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lunitikDexter_F: I've used Debian for 6 years... Sid no less... and rarely encounter issues03:12
Dexter_Fa user knowing what he's doing, good one.03:12
lunitikDexter_F: user just has to do what I tell them  :/03:13
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lunitikDexter_F: would be nice if user could actually give feedback so I know whats going on... but can't even do that  :/03:13
flaccidi think its a good idea to try and send the proper signal first instead of outright killing. imo.03:13
khirrthis run :D03:13
Dexter_Fbesides I learned the hard way not to kill off dpkg or other apps using the package db, but then again - hey, do as you want03:14
lunitik"Why does it say it can't die" "I'll just restart"... annoying03:14
collini installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu and after I login to kde it says "couldn't start kstartupconfig please check installation", any ideas?03:14
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flaccidlunitik: if you cannot end a proces with the correct signal or kill, use kill -9 processname as last resort03:15
lunitikDexter_F: dpkg doesn't have a package db like rpm.... its just files in /var/lib/dpkg/info03:15
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lunitikflaccid: no shit... user hadn't even told me the error though... could have just been they didn't use sudo  :/03:15
flacciderr thats kill -9 pid03:15
Dexter_Fit not really hard to see my point unless you want.03:16
lunitikDexter_F: Your point is invalid... I'm trying to enlighten you as to why03:16
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Dexter_Fgo enlighten me, mr 6-years-deb. (my mom has been driving a car for 25 years and still can't change a spark plug)03:17
flaccidlunitik: [2006-10-11 00:14]  <lunitik> "Why does it say it can't die" "I'll just restart"... annoying03:18
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collini installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu and after I login to kde it says "couldn't start kstartupconfig please check installation", any ideas?03:18
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lunitikflaccid: yes.. its annoying because user ignored my question......03:18
khirrguys, how can i install one file .tar03:18
flaccidyeah i think khirr is from peru or something. non-english maybe03:18
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lunitikkhirr: you don't want to... find a .deb03:19
Dexter_Fpretty big tone recommending people thing based on inaccurate and partly assumed information imo...03:19
lunitikkhirr: or an rpm, and use alien to produce a .deb03:19
khirrbut, is flash03:19
khirrplugins for opera03:19
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:19
flaccidkhirr: you can symlink to the flash plugins with opera03:19
Tm_Tkhirr: look those03:19
morghanphoenixHow does one add a newly installed window manager to KDM?03:19
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flaccidmorghanphoenix: if installed from a package, it should come up in the login manager as an option03:20
flaccidkhirr: i look for URL now03:20
morghanphoenixinstalled from source03:20
flaccidmorghanphoenix: read the doco of the WM03:21
flaccidthere is 1 xorg file to edit to add the entry, but you should read the doco03:21
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lunitikmorghanphoenix: where in the Valley are you?03:21
lunitikmorghanphoenix: You're in Phoenix aren't you?03:22
collini installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu and after I login to kde it says "couldn't start kstartupconfig please check installation", any ideas?03:22
khirrhow can i put opera as my prefery browser?, i dont wanna use konqueror03:22
morghanphoenixNo, it's my last name03:22
flaccidkhirr: http://www.opera.com/linux/docs/plugins/install/#flash . however if you have flash installed from ubuntu source then you can symlink or just add the plugin dir to opera prefs03:22
lunitikmorghanphoenix: ahh... using Qwest... thought that was a local company mostly...03:22
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khirri'll check now03:23
morghanphoenixAll over the pacific northwest, can't seem to get anybody but them.03:23
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flaccidmorghanphoenix: which window manager?03:23
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khirrthanks for the informatio flaccid03:23
lunitikmorghanphoenix: why didn't you just install the package?03:23
morghanphoenixCouldn't find one for dapper03:24
morghanphoenixonly breezy03:24
flaccidnp khirr03:24
lunitik!find fluxbox03:24
ubotuFound: fluxbox03:24
Dexter_Fkhirr: in kde control center -> components -> browser put "opera -newpage"03:24
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flaccidso which wm is it, morghan?03:24
lunitikflaccid: flux03:24
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flaccidsudo apt-get install fluxbox03:24
ubotufluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox03:24
morghanphoenixI'm gonna have to get new repos03:25
khirrmy menu is in spanish03:25
morghanphoenixI keep having problems03:25
flaccidis flux, fluxbox?03:25
lunitikmorghanphoenix: 0.9.14 is in dapper universe03:25
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lunitikflaccid: no... its a flux copacitor03:25
khirri did03:25
collini installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu and after I login to kde it says "couldn't start kstartupconfig please check installation", any ideas?03:25
Dexter_Fkhirr: first row, last item (compenents here)03:26
flaccidi need a delorian now03:26
lunitikcollin: we saw the first time... and if we knew the answer, we'd have helped you03:26
collinlunitik: sorry, i thought that no one saw, thanks for replying03:26
Dexter_Fkhirr: there left row, last item ("standard components")03:26
lunitikcollin: try back in a few hours or something... maybe someone will be here that is knowledgeable to it...03:27
Dexter_Fthere should be an entry about web browser03:27
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flaccidcollin: this may help. don't know if its the same issue. google might help further. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?postid=166705403:27
lunitikcollin: or try #debian-kde (don't tell them its kubuntu though) or #kde... maybe they'll be able to help03:27
khirrmy prefery browser is now opera :D03:27
morghanphoenixSomething is seriously wrong here, packages aren't there when I try it to begin with, then I try again and they're there?03:27
morghanphoenixapt couldn't find xine the other day03:28
azzcoHi I'm trying to create a /home partition... I've made the partion But I don't know how to move everything and make ubuntu use my partition from the start...03:28
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flaccidazzco: us /home currently mounted?03:28
lunitikazzco: make sure the user is assigned the dir... via /etc/passwd03:28
nickstedoes one get beryl for kubuntu  64, and ATI?03:28
lunitikazzco: as for moving data... cp and mv ...03:29
azzcoflaccid you mean my current home or my new partition?03:29
miliani want to make a notify sound via shell using the program beep but I cant hear nothing :(03:29
lunitikazzco: (depending what you actually want to do)03:29
flaccidazzco: which one is it?03:29
flaccidnew or old atm ?03:29
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azzcoI'm using home ATM... do I have to do this from a CD or something?03:29
azzco(using old)03:29
morghanphoenixI used mount /dev/hdb1 /home03:30
nickste!find beryl03:30
morghanphoenixthat's all03:30
ubotuPackage/file beryl does not exist in dapper03:30
morghanphoenixbut I was working with a fresh install03:30
flaccidazzco: is your new partition blank and you need to copy the files first?03:30
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azzcoflaccid yes03:30
flaccidazzco: is the new partition mounted yet?03:30
azzcoyes in "/newhome"03:30
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khirrthis RUN :D03:31
khirri have flash suport now :D03:31
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flaccidazzco: ok. what fs is the new partition?03:31
flaccidkhirr: congrats03:31
azzcofs? o.O03:31
khirrlike linux :D03:31
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azzcoext3, flaccid03:31
flaccidfirst do a sudo cp -R /home/* /newhome03:32
flaccidwhen its copied, unmount /newhome03:32
fpiadminthx bye !03:33
flaccidthen change your /etc/fstab for /home to the new /dev/hd$03:33
flaccidfpiadmin: cya03:33
flaccidthen umount /home03:33
khirrguys, i wanna use "wine", what is the repository to can do it?03:33
collini'm new to irc, how do i exit a channel?03:33
flaccidthen sudo mount -a to remount all parts in /etc/fstab03:33
flaccidcollin: /part or /part #channel03:33
flaccid!wine > khirr03:33
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azzcothx flaccid I'll try03:34
flaccidcool. hope you understand what the process is about03:34
khirrto can download with adept, what is the line that i should add03:34
flaccidthe package is called wine03:34
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.03:35
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flaccidcan't remember which source. can you select and install it in adept?03:35
azzcodon't use the ubuntu repo03:35
azzcoI'll check source03:35
Dexter_Fabattoir: still around? I checked back my sources.list, all dapper. the headers are 2.6.11 for reasons beyond me.03:36
milanhey i want to listen to a online radio station, but rythmbox or xmms won't open it03:36
flaccidgood question i'd like to know. how do you check which source a package is from?03:36
milani think it's a codec issue but the wiki is offline03:36
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azzco"deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main" there's the repo from winehq.com03:37
flaccidthats it03:37
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abattoirDexter_F: that's weird...03:38
azzcoBTW flaccid you wtoe /home/* you meant the * as the account name right? it's taking alot of time but I guess that my /home has grown a bit...03:38
khirrjust i need wine to can run my exes files?03:39
abattoirflaccid: 'apt-cache madison <package>' ?03:39
khirrnot need library?03:39
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azzcokhirr yes03:39
khirrwhere can i download these librarys?03:39
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flaccidazzco: it will take time. you could of used the -v switch to see each file copying. before you unmount /newhome check that /newhome is correct.03:40
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azzcokhirr: you might have to add a .DLL or too to windows/system32 but else you should be able to run an exe with "wine *.exe"03:40
flaccidabattoir: thats sweet thanks mate03:40
flaccidwine also appears to be in univserse. wine | 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 | http://au.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages03:41
khirryestarday i installed wine, but in AMD64 version, but doesnt run, told me install 32 bits version, that i did, but i remember install both library03:41
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azzcoflaccid it's recomended to download from winehq03:42
flaccidthat version is  wine | 0.9.22~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06-1 | http://wine.budgetdedicated.com dapper/main Packages03:42
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:43
flaccidwell thats what i get with apt-cahce03:43
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sF|Xemanth^any guys using dapper x64 + ati fglx ?03:43
flaccidi have the winehq one installed03:43
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khirrwow, lots librarys03:43
azzcoI'll be AFK a while... I'll try to see how the new /home partion has turned out when I'll get back THX for the help flaccid03:43
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flaccidok cool03:44
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visik7anyone with kde3.5.2 ?03:50
[GuS] people, there is a way to add auto. a Windows boot to the grub?03:50
visik7anyone with kde3.5.2 can go to amazon.com and tell me if it possible to see the page ?03:50
flaccid!grub [GuS] 03:50
ubotugrub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 353 kB, installed size 748 kB03:50
[GuS] flaccid, i've ask about doing that03:50
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[GuS] not about grub...03:51
[GuS] i know how to add my hand03:51
[GuS] i am just askin if there is a auto. way...03:51
flaccidoh like a gui frontend?03:51
[GuS] no flaccid03:51
[GuS] to add the lines inside menu.list...03:51
flaccidwhat do you mean by auto?03:52
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[GuS] automatically (auto.)03:52
[GuS] 03:52
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flaccidsorry i dont understand03:53
KDEfanboyvisik7: try #ubuntu next03:53
[GuS] bueh...03:53
DarkWizzardguys http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26160/03:53
KDEfanboyi'd try if i had 3.5.203:53
[GuS] again... i am askin for a way to add automatically the boot of WinXP on the grub menu list...03:53
flaccidso who does the adding?03:54
flaccidor what03:54
DarkWizzardsudo grub-update03:54
DarkWizzardif I remeber good03:54
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[GuS] flaccid, when you install Ubuntu after a windows, it does03:55
DarkWizzardor smth like that03:55
flaccidi understand03:55
[GuS] so.. i want to know wich is the command03:55
flaccidDarkWizzard ^^03:55
Tm_Toh my...03:55
flaccidshmm i don't have that03:55
[GuS] that commmand does not exist DarkWizzard ..03:55
DarkWizzardwait then03:56
flaccidsudo update-grub03:56
DarkWizzardthat then03:56
flaccidworked for me then03:56
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flaccidnice DarkWizzard03:56
[GuS] that yes, but that really take in count all partitions?03:56
[GuS] it think not03:56
[GuS] i think first must play with devices.map03:57
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flaccidhmm sorry i don't know03:57
[GuS] and then execute that command03:57
[GuS] i will try later...03:57
DarkWizzarddoes anyone have an ideea about this problem03:57
DarkWizzard http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26160/03:58
[GuS] lets see03:58
[GuS] Danker_,03:58
[GuS] DarkWizzard, *03:58
[GuS] that is not a problem03:58
[GuS] LInux uses all memory as cache03:58
DarkWizzardis that normal ?03:58
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DarkWizzardyeah but03:58
DarkWizzardshouldn't it write to a swap partition03:58
DarkWizzardI checked it on other systems03:59
[GuS] and the releases when is using it03:59
DarkWizzardand it wasn't 003:59
exceswaterhi all03:59
exceswatercan any1 help me with a kubuntu start problem ?03:59
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DarkWizzardcould you please paste your output to sudo cat /proc/meminfo |grep Swap03:59
[GuS] i always have low free memory.... and from what i know... Linux uses it all.. for a fast access when is needed03:59
DarkWizzardok I understand that03:59
abattoirexceswater: what's the problem?03:59
exceswaterhi abattoir03:59
flaccid[GuS] : thats normal03:59
DarkWizzardbut it should use swap04:00
[GuS] of course04:00
[GuS] is normal04:00
flaccidi have 8mb free atm04:00
richardh_Hello everyone....I'm trying to connect my notebook to a TV to watch DVDs...anyone know how to do this properly?04:00
abattoirexceswater: hello04:00
DarkWizzardok but my problem is this04:00
DarkWizzardSwapTotal:           0 kB04:00
flaccidonly 192mb swap used04:00
DarkWizzardSwapFree:            0 kB04:00
DarkWizzardSwapCached:          0 kB04:00
exceswaterit seems like everytime i start my pc the settings wizzards keeps ask about some things04:00
DarkWizzardis this normal ?04:00
[GuS] yes. why not?04:00
exceswaterlike language, location, the appearance04:00
[GuS] ha much ram do you have?04:00
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exceswaterit seems like it doesn't remember the settings04:01
exceswaterwhy ?04:01
[GuS] mm04:01
azzcoflaccid: the copy was succesful but some files are owned by root now...04:01
abattoirexceswater: kpersonalizer?04:01
flaccid[GuS] : what you got for more /etc/fstab | grep -i swap04:01
[GuS] seems like your swap is not working...04:01
flaccidazzco: thats weird04:01
[GuS] flaccid, ?04:01
flaccidoops i meant that for DarkWizzard04:01
DarkWizzardthats what I suspect to04:01
exceswatersomething like that04:01
DarkWizzard /dev/hda7 none swap sw 0 004:01
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[GuS] DarkWizzard, like is disabled.. or have not assigned some space for it04:02
DarkWizzardI looked in gparted04:02
[GuS] you have swap part?04:02
exceswateryes abattoir04:02
DarkWizzardand it says unknown filesystem for it04:02
DarkWizzardyeah I have04:02
exceswateris starting everytime04:02
[GuS] so... thats the problem04:02
abattoirexceswater: open kate as root, 'kdesu kate /usr/bin/startkde'04:02
DarkWizzardbut it was done when I installed breezy04:02
[GuS] and in /etc/fstab.. what do you have in swap line?04:02
abattoirexceswater: look for 'kpersonalizerrc General FirstLogin true'04:03
DarkWizzard /dev/hda7 none swap sw 0 004:03
DarkWizzardthats all04:03
nikkianahey.... does anyone know if there's a better HTML editor/text pad type program for Linux other than Bluefish?04:03
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abattoirexceswater: change true to false, and save that file04:03
[GuS] thats ok DarkWizzard  indeed04:03
[GuS] but try to format again the swap part04:03
DarkWizzardin qparted ?04:03
[GuS] yes04:03
DarkWizzardas linux swap04:03
[GuS] Q or Gparted04:03
n8k99nikiana: i like to use kate but you can also try Quanta04:03
[GuS] yes04:03
abattoirnikkiana: you want a full blown Web Dev env?04:03
[GuS] first04:03
DarkWizzarddoes it need a mount point ?04:03
Dexter_Fabattoir: heh. weird. the build script now looked for the headers in /lib/modules/2.6.15-17... and it worked. never would have looked there in the first place and I'm totally clueless why it now sees them. but alright.04:04
[GuS] do mount | grep swap04:04
[GuS] be sure is not mounted04:04
flaccidDarkWizzard: what ya got for sudo fdisk -l | grep -i swap04:04
[GuS] (but for sure, is not)04:04
DarkWizzard /dev/hda7            7801        7873      586341   82  Linux swap / Solaris04:04
abattoirDexter_F: well, it worked, so best not to worry about it :P04:04
exceswaterit says it cannot connect to X server abattoir] 04:04
flaccid[GuS] : swap is mount none. not shown in mount04:04
DarkWizzardI see04:04
Dexter_Fabattoir: totally againt my nature but I'll try that for a change :)04:04
DarkWizzard /dev/hda7            7801        7873      586341   82  Linux swap / Solaris04:05
DarkWizzardIs this ok ?04:05
n8k99hi khirr04:05
khirrone program to can open my msn?04:05
[GuS] so in gparted tells you unknow?04:05
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khirrbut not be gaim, kopete or aMSN04:05
DarkWizzardkhirr: kopete,gaim04:05
DarkWizzardyeah it does04:05
khirrbut, dont like..04:05
[GuS] thats weird04:05
khirrare ugly (:04:05
n8k99khirr: your msn email account or your instant messenger04:05
[GuS] try then to format04:05
abattoirexceswater: you dont see a kate window being launched?04:06
shriphaniheya talking from fluxbox04:06
DarkWizzardcan I mess up things to badly ?04:06
flaccidits fairly small number of cyls but yeah04:06
[GuS] at least it seems it not in use.. by showing you 0mb04:06
shriphanii actually like it04:06
n8k99khirr: you can get new themes for all those im clients04:06
[GuS] nop04:06
abattoirDexter_F: i'm guessing you did not have the headers installed for your current kernel version...04:06
[GuS] DarkWizzard, if you afraid04:06
[GuS] do that with Live CD04:06
khirrbut, i wanna see them for exameple for email acc, and in kopete i cant04:06
exceswaterit says it cannot conect to x server04:06
[GuS] (dapper live for example)04:06
[GuS] that comes with Qtparted04:06
n8k99khirr: you want to be able to send an email to a contact from kopete?04:07
shriphanikde is trying to be osx isnt it ?04:07
flaccidyeah check the start and end in fdisk on the live boot for a start04:07
[GuS] shriphani,  ??04:07
n8k99khirr: what is it you are trying to do?04:07
DarkWizzardok I'll try formating it04:07
khirri wanna see my contac list for email, not for name to show04:07
n8k99i see04:07
shriphani[GuS] , what ?04:07
abattoirexceswater: ok, go to /usr/bin in konqueror, right click starkde and select 'Edit as Root'04:07
Dexter_Fabattoir: possible I booted -386 instead of -k7, yes. tho 386 headers were installed, too. well, ok, I got it cleaned up and can scan...04:07
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[GuS] shriphani, kde its own style04:08
exceswaterthanks mate :d04:08
exceswaterit was anoying04:08
n8k99you can link the contact list in kopete to your contacts in Kontact, khirr04:08
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abattoirexceswater: :)04:08
[GuS] did you look into Plasma? Oxigen icons shriphani ?04:08
khirrno no, thats no the problem04:08
[GuS] is the next kde look04:08
n8k99khirr and you can chose to display the name as your contacts appear in you addressbook instead of msn04:08
shriphani[GuS] , nope04:08
n8k99khirr: ok04:08
shriphanicould you gimme a link04:08
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[GuS] http://www.oxygen-icons.org/ - http://plasma.kde.org/04:09
khirri wanna see kopete list contacts for email04:09
n8k99khirr: right click on the contact in your buddy list, select properties04:09
n8k99khirr: then change the address book link for that contact04:10
khirrno there is opt to email04:10
khirrjust to put the name that i want04:10
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khirrare about 200 contacts...hard work04:11
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LjLwhat's the correct way to make yourself invisible on kopete (jabber network) to a signle contact?04:11
n8k99khirr: yes I know, I haven't ofund a better way to link them but when I am in Kmail and get an email from someone, it tells me if they are availbel for chat04:11
khirrwhere can i download kmail?04:12
n8k99khirr: do you have kontact?04:13
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n8k99khirr: it should be included in kubuntu04:13
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flaccidkhirr: if not open your favourite package manager and install package kmail04:13
n8k99khirr: what is teh default email client you have?04:13
n8k99flaccid: thanks04:14
flaccidits in main04:14
khirrno one04:14
flacciddon't know where that went04:14
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flaccidyeah totally04:15
qkrwhen I start Adept Manager I get this message "You will not be able to change system settings, because another process is using the packaging system database". What to do?04:15
abattoir!adept crash fix04:15
ubotuIf adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'04:15
abattoirqkr: ^^^^^04:15
n8k99that's part of what makes kubuntu K_ubuntu04:15
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abattoirqkr: execute the first command in a terminal04:16
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exceswateranother question04:18
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exceswateri have installed some things from adept04:18
abattoirexceswater: sure04:18
exceswaterand i cannot find them on menu04:18
exceswateron games04:18
exceswateri have to mention that i am kinda noob04:18
abattoirexceswater: you installed them now?04:18
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exceswaterfew mins ago04:18
abattoirexceswater: did you restart KDE after installation?04:18
abattoirexceswater: ok, fine04:18
abattoirexceswater: oh, it doesnt show up after you restart KDE?04:19
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abattoirexceswater: ok wait04:19
exceswaterand before i had same problem04:19
exceswaterand i still have04:19
abattoirexceswater: run 'kbuildsycoca --incremental' in a terminal04:19
exceswatersome games and things installed in adept never show up04:19
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exceswatererror : no database available04:20
abattoirexceswater: ignore that04:20
abattoirexceswater: see if the menu has been updated04:20
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exceswaternot really04:21
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qkrI want to install apache and php, anything I need to know or just select packages in adept and go?04:22
ubotulamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.04:22
abattoirqkr: ^^^ that might help04:22
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qkrI have already installed mysql04:23
exceswaterwhy i cannot see installed things ?04:24
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abattoirexceswater: in the menu?04:24
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exceswateryes abattoir04:24
exceswaterand nowhere04:24
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exceswateri dunno where to look for them04:24
abattoirexceswater: which app is this?04:24
exceswaterfor example: robotour04:25
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n8k99execswater: alt+f2 then type robotour in the input field04:25
Hawkwindn8k99: I believe he's trying to get the app to show in his menus04:26
HawkwindWhich is what abattoir is helping him with04:26
daka_how to reorganize repositories??.re-install..not working well now04:26
exceswateryes Hawkwind04:26
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abattoirhi Hawkwind :)04:26
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exceswaterand robotour is not the only thing that i cannot find04:26
Hawkwinddaka_: You can edit your /etc/apt/sources.list manually04:26
Hawkwindabattoir: Good morning04:26
n8k99Hawkwind: isn't there an applet that helps add non-kde items to teh menu04:26
n8k99or a script04:27
daka_hawkwind... I tried using other peoples's suggestions but did not work04:27
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exceswateralso gnurobot04:27
Hawkwindn8k99: He could run kmenuedit and add them manually04:28
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mambruHi! I updated from dapper to edgy and almost everything seems to work fine. The only problem comes with the storage media option of system menu, now it limits itself to open the /media dir instead of the media:/ kioslave, and i can't mount partitions from konqueror, anybody had the same problem?04:32
azzcoflaccid: are you still there?04:32
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flaccidyeah barely04:35
crusty__hallo!     help is required..how to make kubuntu see my USB PC webcamera SN0C10504:35
azzcookay I'm about to edit my fstab... but I'm not sure if I might screw anything up...04:35
azzco<mount point> for my new partition should be /home right, flaccid?04:36
abattoirmambru: /media is 'feature' rather than a 'problem' ;)04:36
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras04:36
abattoircrusty__: ^^^^ that might help04:36
azzcookay that's what I needed to hear :)04:36
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ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:37
mambruabattoir: so, how am I supposed to mount my vfat partition from konqueror, I don't mind calling mount manually, but I guess that's not the user-friendly way...04:37
abattoirmambru: you should have an option to mount in /media04:38
thompais there a simple way to reinstall grub to the other hard drive?04:38
crusty__thank you very much...see what i can find...thanks again abattoir04:38
abattoircrusty__: no problem :)04:38
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abattoirmambru: you don't when you rt. click on the partition/drive?04:39
mambruabattoir: I fear I don't :-), not at least on the context menu04:39
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abattoirmambru: is this a usb drive?04:39
abattoiri mean a usb flash drive?04:39
thompaneverming found section changing disk drub is installed to04:39
mambruabattoir: no, the windows partition04:39
mambruabattoir: but it happens with all partitions or media04:40
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thompaif grub wont work well with sata , so it has to go on my IDE drive04:40
mambruabattoir: has happened with 2 dapper's i updated to edgy, and one fresh edgy install from last week04:40
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mambruabattoir: maybe the spanish locales are causing the problem04:40
Tallia1Kubuntuhey buddies!? do you remember how is called the opensource firmware for routers ?04:40
abattoirmambru: i dont think so...04:41
abattoirmambru: i dont seem to have it too...04:41
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mambruabattoir: :-) I've been searching for related bugs, but I didn't manage to find any04:42
abattoirmambru: on launchpad?04:42
mambruabattoir: yes04:42
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abattoirmambru: i think it doesnt show because you'd need root privileges to mount it.... ?04:44
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mambruabattoir: the user flag is set on fstab, plus the user belongs to the disk group04:47
abattoirmambru: ok, that wasn't the case here, so i thought of that04:47
abattoirmambru: because usb disks / cdroms work fine here04:47
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mambruabattoir: running konqueror as root didn't show any mount option04:49
abattoirmambru: that might be because the mediamanager might not be running04:49
mambruabattoir: is that kded?04:50
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abattoirmambru: i dont think its a part of kded, not sure though04:50
phoenix_wow, this is wierd04:50
phoenix_irc in konsole04:51
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hyperhello abattoir :)04:52
abattoirhi hyper :)04:52
hyperhello trappist :)04:52
intelikeyphoenix nothing wierd about that.         i have on gui running at all, about 90% of the time.04:52
hyperabattoir: you remember I asked you about streaming mp3 through ssh?04:52
abattoirhyper: no, i dont :P04:52
hyperabattoir: don't worry... I solved it now with gnump3d04:53
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mambruabattoir: do you know which process name should i be looking for? (the name of the media manager process)04:53
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abattoirmambru: no, that should be running as regular user, i meant for root04:54
collinwhy is it when I am running kde 900 mb of memory are used up and when I run gnome only 200 mb are used?04:54
mambruabattoir: oh, ok04:54
mambrucollin: check the memory with the free command, it is more realistic04:55
intelikeyhald ?04:55
collinmambru: it says that 974 mb are used04:55
collinxorg itself used like 28004:56
mambrucollin: that is because xorgs maps the card's memory onto its process space04:56
Hawkwindcollin: Linux handles memory completely different than Windows.  So most of it is probably cached which makes your system run faster as it's got stuff preloaded into memory04:57
intelikeyyou are reading the allocated (buffered) usage.  the real usage collin x uses about 5m iirc04:57
mambrucollin: the -/+ buffers/cache line of free is what you should trust04:57
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collinmambru: okay, then what is the mem line for04:58
mambruabattoir: I understood correctly that you were having the same problem I have?04:58
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abattoirmambru: well, i can't see 'Mount' for hdd partitions, i see them for CD drives and usb flash drives04:59
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collinwith the -/+ buffers/cache line it say it is using 237 mb04:59
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mambrucollin: that includes cached files among other things that the kernel will ditch as soon as the memory is needed. It keeps them to minimize disk use04:59
mambrudisk use -> disk access05:00
intelikeykubuntu will run in 64M of ram with no swap.   (not advised to do this.)05:00
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mambruabattoir: I'll try a CD, and see if it works05:01
collinmambru: so the buffers/cache is what is really being used? and the Mem line is what?05:01
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mambrucollin: I believe it's total memory used by programs + libraries (maybe duped) + buffers/cache05:02
intelikeycollin the mem line is what is being used.  just most of it is blank.   it's allocated for use by...  but empty.05:02
collindoes gnome do the same? or is this just kde's way of speeding things up?05:03
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v3ctorit is a linux thing..not gnome/kde05:04
intelikeyand if you had 1000 G of ram  (and the kernel supporte that much) linux would use about 90% of the ram just to run kde/gnome/whatever.05:04
intelikeycollin yes.  linux does that. not the DE05:04
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v3ctoryou can run linux without a DE and see the same thing05:05
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intelikeybut you would still have 999.9 G of free ram.05:05
intelikeyyes indeed. v3ctor05:05
Manyfold_kde is so dam slow what can i do to speed things up?05:05
collinmaybe the system moniters for gnome and kde are different, because ksysguard says memory used is 972 mb and in system info program in gnome say that mem used is 217 mb05:05
intelikeyMem:        255220      24016     231204          0        928      1267605:05
intelikeyno gui running ^05:05
mambruabattoir: cd's (and usb drives I guess) work fine. I guess the problem started when I added noauto to my hdd partitions. In dapper it was possible and worked fine. I prefer that behaviour since in case of crash, only the mounted partitions would be left in inconsistent state05:06
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intelikeybut that's not the typical setup either.05:06
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v3ctorthe Mem free is physical memory, it is almost allocated imediatly into buffers and cache so it can beeasily accessed by the kernel05:06
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v3ctorwhich is why we look at the buffer/cache to see what is actually being used at the time05:07
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collindoesn't anyone know of a fix for phoenix bios hot keys on a toshiba labtop so i can change the screen brightness?05:07
cplctfdhi everyone05:07
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cplctfddoes anyone know where to find gnome themes? other than gnome-look05:09
abattoircplctfd: try asking at #ubuntu :P05:10
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abattoirmambru: i dont use noauto, so its not a problem for me, unless i manually unmount it, i still prefer 'mount' though ;)05:10
Hawkwindcplctfd: art.gnome.org ?05:10
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intelikeycollin if you can get the key code then the app loadkeys can fix it.  but you will need the code you get and the code you want it to be....   i.e.  echo 'keycode 125 = Decr_Console' | loadkeys   <--- that sets the left winkey to do what alt+left-arrow does. in the console.   btw have you tried using the hot keys in the console to see if they work there ?05:11
mambruabattoir: I guess it can't be considered a flaw then. Out of the box works fine.05:11
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abattoirmambru: well, i'd personally say it is a flaw...05:12
abattoirmambru: try filing a bug and see what the response is ;)05:12
intelikeythey'll prolly just say "use pmount"05:13
collinintelikey: in the konsole, the hotkeys just make a ~05:13
intelikeymot konsole.  console.05:13
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TheGateKeeperany kubuntu desktop devs in here?05:14
intelikeyme realizes that if that's the first time he has pressed ctrl+alt+f1  he will probably reboot to get back to the gui....05:15
TheGateKeeperintelikey: Ctrl + alt + f705:15
abattoirTheGateKeeper: there are, you might get their attention at #kubuntu-devel , what do you need?05:16
intelikeyTheGateKeeper heh only on a default system  :)05:16
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intelikeyyep there he went.05:17
TheGateKeeperabattoir: I am curious to know how they get a reasonable clean desktop with kde, when I have a go on other distros I seem to get a load of stuff I don't really want05:17
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intelikeymaybe i should hide now.05:17
abattoirTheGateKeeper: what do you mean? remove the icons from the desktop?05:18
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m4x1mumhow to append mp3 file to xmms?05:18
m4x1mumenqueue mp3 file05:19
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mambruabattoir: I'll try to file a bug05:19
abattoirm4x1mum: click on the + button, the file open dialog should come up, then choose the file05:19
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abattoir(if i remember xmms right ;) )05:19
octanengage brain :P05:20
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TheGateKeeperabattoir: well when I install KDE I seem to get a lot of apps I don't want, I may be get 3 different text editors for instance, just seem to get a cluttered menu system, with kubuntu I like the menu layout05:20
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m4x1mumerm not from xmms but is it possible to do it like windows? double-click the mp3 and it will automatically enqueue the file05:20
abattoirTheGateKeeper: yes, the devs put in a lot of hard work to make kubuntu clean and usable ;)05:21
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TheGateKeeperabattoir: I was wouldering the stuff was all there, they just modify the menus, or if they manage to selectively install applications05:22
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:22
m4x1mumanyone use krusader?05:23
abattoirTheGateKeeper: if i understand how it works correctly, only necessary applications are packaged, and, the devs include custom settings/menu entries etc.05:23
abattoirTheGateKeeper: kubuntu-default-settings is a package which controls many of KDE's configurations...05:24
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abattoir!info kubuntu-default-settings05:24
ubotukubuntu-default-settings: Default settings and artwork for the Kubuntu desktop. In component main, is optional. Version 1:6.06-22 (dapper), package size 1970 kB, installed size 3080 kB05:24
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m4x1mumis krusader similar to konquerer?05:24
LivingCoolerI did an apt-get dist upgrade and it won't upgrade gcc, is that a seperate procedure?05:25
Hawkwindm4x1mum: It's a split screen file manager and also can not be used as a webbrowser05:25
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TheGateKeeperabattoir: may be I need to go poking around kubuntu-desktop I know that is their main meta package05:26
m4x1mumso konquerer is like both file manager and a browser?05:26
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abattoirTheGateKeeper: sure... you can get the source and look at it if you want too05:27
_Shade_is there a possibility to launch ubuntu cd from an iso image, since all my cd-roms are broken05:27
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intelikeym4x1mum yes05:27
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|lostbyte|xHi guys.05:27
m4x1mumis kubuntu dependent on konquerer? like windows is dependent on IE?05:28
intelikeym4x1mum in a sense yes05:28
gnomefreakm4x1mum: yes05:28
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intelikeykde will run without konqueror05:28
cox377Hello all, i wanna put a new hdd into this computer and install kubuntu on it, is it possible to make up a backup image of all the settings etc etc?05:28
intelikeygnome will run without nutilus too05:29
m4x1mumooh so i can safely remove konquerer? Since I use Opera for web browser and probably krusader for file manager05:29
v3ctoris krusader even close to konqueror feature wise?05:30
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|lostbyte|xv3ctor: what does krusader have ?05:31
intelikeym4x1mum try just disabling it in the settings.   you probably want icons on the desktop.  i think konq does that05:31
gnomefreakm4x1mum: thats gonna be touchy i think05:31
v3ctor|lostbyte|x: no idea?05:31
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ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi05:32
TheGateKeepercox377: ^^^^05:32
cox377TheGateKeeper: nice one mate05:33
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TheGateKeepercox377: np :-)05:33
intelikeym4x1mum if you "remove" konqueror as in removing the package it will take kde-core with it.     you can test   sudo mv /usr/bin/konqueror /home     and restart kde see what all error messages you get.05:33
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TheGateKeeperm4x1mum: sounds like it would be safer just to remove it from your menus05:34
intelikeysafe ?     safe ?     if it removes all kde*  that doesn't crash linux... what do you mean safe ?05:35
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v3ctori don't see anough differences to make the switch05:36
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intelikeysudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg     is safe....05:37
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nikkianais there a way to make a button that will minimize all open windows if you click on it?05:38
intelikeyv3ctor like i first said.  "<intelikey> m4x1mum try just disabling it in the settings."05:38
Tm_Tnikkiana: you mean "show desktop" kicker applet?05:38
v3ctornikkiana: you mean likea show-desktop button?05:38
nikkianalike that05:38
v3ctorthere show be  one05:38
intelikeyyeah there is a way.05:39
Tm_Tnikkiana: it should be there already, right next to that kmenu icon05:39
v3ctortry looking in apptlets that you can add05:39
v3ctorapplets* even05:39
trappistit's in the list of applets - search for 'show'05:39
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nikkianafound it!05:39
nikkianathanks :D05:39
intelikeyright click on the taskbar add applet show desktop05:40
larson9999i thought i edited a pdf file in linux not long ago but can't find an program that does that now.  is there an OSS program that will do that in linux or am i smoking crack?05:40
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Tm_Tintelikey: I have only few windows in each desktop, no problems with those :)05:41
trappistintelikey: I don't use it, but I figure it musta been invented for a reason05:41
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larson9999intelikey: i use that button all the time.05:41
Tm_Tsome people can't live without desktop icons05:41
intelikeylarson9999 ah  and for what cause ?05:41
v3ctordifferent strokes for different folks05:41
v3ctoryou could also use a different desktop ;)05:42
larson9999intelikey: to get to my desktop, silly05:42
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intelikeyTm_T yeah i guess that's it.05:42
Tm_TI find desktop icons trashy05:42
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m4x1mumbut desktop icon provide quick access05:42
larson9999intelikey: just something i'm used to.  it's like a prefer non tabbed browsing because i just used to use alt+tab to switch05:42
nikkianait's more because i temporarily store files on my desktop for work :)05:42
Tm_Tbut I understand that many people does use and like to use it05:42
v3ctorso can taskbar icons05:42
raul12 how t change KDE theme ???05:43
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|lostbyte|xraul12: kcontrol.05:43
n8k99system settings>apperance05:43
larson9999if you don't like desktop icons, use a wm that doesn't allow them.  they're usually much faster, no?05:43
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m4x1mumooh i like tab browsing the first time i experience them :)05:43
raul12 i am not finding anything to change theme in system setting05:43
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intelikeylarson9999 no.05:44
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larson9999intelikey: oh, the sites usually claim they are :)05:44
raul12 help plz05:45
larson9999so, no pdf editor in linux?05:45
m4x1mumin Opera i can just use 1, 2 to switch between tabs, then i can use alt+tab to switch between application05:45
larson9999free on that is05:45
n8k99raul12: under Look & Feel select Appearance05:45
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LjLlarson9999, you can *create* a PDF using several programs05:45
intelikeylarson9999 only desktop that i know of that does not support desktop icons is  twm   it's fast yes.  the whole package is very tiny.05:45
intelikey!info twm05:45
ubotutwm: Tab window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 93 kB, installed size 276 kB05:45
LjLlarson9999: as for editing an *existing* PDF, that wouldn't be straight forward under any system, i think05:45
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raul12 look and feel where ??05:45
intelikeypackage size 93 kB,05:45
n8k99it's the second field of selections from the top05:46
m4x1mumits quite easy to edit PDF using adobe acrobat, in windows05:46
collinhow do you change the login screen window back to gnome?05:46
n8k99Appearance is the one on teh left05:46
n8k99raul12: then when you are in Appearance, select Style05:47
larson9999LjL: i found a couple sites that talk about a long winded method.  i'll give it a go.05:47
n8k99raul12 or Windows Decorations05:47
_Shade_how can i install ubuntu from an iso image?05:47
larson9999m4x1mum: acrobat isn't free is it?05:47
LjLlarson9999: well, for instance i can see there's a package called "ipe" that can output to pdf, and another package "pdftoipe" that can convert a PDF to ipe format05:47
intelikeydoes xpdf-utils not allow editing ?05:47
raul12 but their is no place to browse and install my theme05:48
m4x1mumnope its not free, but its the best in my  own experience05:48
raul12 in windows decoration05:48
LjLlarson9999: or the "pstoedit" package also05:48
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raul12 where i can install my theme ??05:49
m4x1mumand acrobat can do many things like adding javascript to documents, i dont even use that functionality hehehe05:49
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=== intelikey don't do pdf
raul12 ..............05:49
intelikeyor windows05:49
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m4x1mumwell i deal with pdf all the time unfortunately05:50
raul12 their is no place to browse and install my theme05:50
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collinhow do you change the login screen window back to gnome?05:50
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LjLcollin: you mean the display manager? "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"05:51
raul12 help plz05:52
narasimhancollin :just for info , the setting is stored in the file /etc/X11/default-display-manager ..u can change /usr/bin/kdm to /usr/sbin/gdm05:53
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m4x1mumaaaah from 43 upgradable to 28 package05:53
intelikeycollin it may be that you don't want to change the login screen but the default session?   you can have many desktop environments installed and even running...  there is a menu to select the session on both the gdm and kdm greeters05:53
LjLraul12: perhaps run "kcontrol", go to Appearances and Themes, Theme Manager, Install new theme05:53
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raul12 where is kcontrol ???05:54
LjLraul12: type "kcontrol" in a console.05:54
Hawkwindraul12: alt-f2 and then type kcontrol05:54
intelikeyin /usr/bin05:54
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intelikeyone never knows what that question might mean....05:55
raul12 any way i can bring kcontrol to my enu list ???05:55
raul12 menu05:55
LjLraul12: yes05:55
raul12 plz tell05:55
raul12 steps05:55
LjLraul12: right click on panel, Add applet to panel, Settings05:55
collinthanks everyone for your help05:56
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intelikeyLjL menu ?05:56
LjLintelikey: ?05:56
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arepiehello.. who knows how to configure ATI fglrx driver for me to support direct randering?05:57
intelikeyLjL hehhe it looks like your answer was sufficient but he asked about "<raul12>  any way i can bring kcontrol to my menu list ???"    :)05:57
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trappistthe bot knows05:57
LjLintelikey: sure. but the "Settings" applet is specifically made to access kcontrol easily05:57
arepiei guess i read it, and follow the instruction.. it gave me no direct randering05:57
intelikeyLjL like i said.  he took your answer and ran with it.   no blood no foul.   :)05:58
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DaSkreechhi nikkiana05:59
nikkianahi DaSkreech :)05:59
raul12 thank U guys 4 the help :D06:00
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DaSkreechintelikey: in Windows Vista they have a button to bring up Alt+tab06:00
collinbefore i make a mistake, what i want to do is have the computer boot up to the ubuntu login window and choose the session from there instead of booting up with the kubuntu login window06:01
intelikeyDaSkreech that must be for those kbd'less boxen06:01
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narasimhancollin: i dont understand..06:02
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intelikeycollin yes "<LjL> collin: you mean the display manager? "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"    is correct06:02
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narasimhancollin: u will get the kdm login manager next time u restart06:02
narasimhancollin: sorry gdm06:02
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collinok, and why does it say that postfix failed during boot up?06:03
DaSkreechtwm doesn't ship with X anymore?06:03
DaSkreech that's kinda dangerous06:03
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DaSkreechHow are you nikkiana?06:04
intelikeycollin cause you haven't configured it.    sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix     if you want to set up postfix06:04
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DaSkreechGot your server sorted?06:04
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DaSkreechhi aseigo06:04
nikkianaDaSkreech: not too shabby, got a job and such... working from home06:04
narasimhanintelikey: :) fast and resourceful06:04
DaSkreechnikkiana: Scwheet :)06:04
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intelikeyresourceful == full of warmed over source....  yep that's me.06:05
collinintelikey: what is postfix for?06:05
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raul12 how to install .tar.gz theme file ????06:05
v3ctorpostfix = MTA(mail transfer agent)06:06
DaSkreechraul12: They will normally have aREADME file06:06
intelikeycollin email transport.    run     man postfix    for more info06:06
collinintelikey: thanks a lot for your help06:06
intelikeycollin np.06:06
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DaSkreechraul12: Look in the tar.gz to see if they have a README or an INSTALL file06:07
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arepieis there other driver for ATI other than fglrx?06:08
narasimhanraul12: u can also try out some themes available via adept..06:08
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intelikeyarepie vesa ?06:08
ubotuvesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x06:09
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:09
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:09
arepiefglrx doesn06:09
arepiefglrx doesn't seems to be fine with my graphic card06:09
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uwowhat is the equivalent of *.* in linux terminal (i.e. cp *.* /home....)06:10
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trappistuwo: *.* means pretty much the same thing here as it does in windows06:10
intelikeyuwo *06:10
Tm_Tuwo: *.* works, but as you can see, it takes only files that does have dot.06:11
trappistany filename with a . in it, is what it expands to06:11
DaSkreechnikkiana: Hope you can motivate yourself :)06:11
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intelikeyuwo in DOS *.*  is the same as  * in linux06:11
uwointelikey: tnx :)06:11
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fildo* = wildcard ;p06:11
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torkianohello all06:12
intelikeyfor later referance     DOS *.* != linux *.*06:12
fildohi torkiano06:12
trappistintelikey: *.* doesn't require a . in the filename in DOS?06:12
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DaSkreechtrappist: I'm not sure you can make a file without a .dot in the name in dos :)06:13
intelikeyin linux    *.*  ecery inode name contianing a dot "."    most inodes in linux dont06:13
DaSkreechthough I guess you wouldn't get folders06:14
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lotusleafhow may I find out what hald is doing exactly? Every few seconds my HDD light flashes and in KSysGuard hald is doing something which coincides with the HDD light flashing, even when no programs are running and the system is idle.06:14
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intelikeyDaSkreech sure you can.  but in DOS file    "blah"   matches  both  *   and  *.*   but in linux   blah only mathces *   not *.*06:15
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DaSkreechWhats the single char metachar in dos?06:15
intelikeysame as linux06:16
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excitatorywhen ripping cds on linux, how do you all handle the pregaps since cdparanoia doesn't support pregap detection?06:16
intelikeybut in DOS  ? wont match .06:16
intelikeyin linux it will06:16
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DaSkreechlotusleaf: Good question06:17
collini did sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm and it changed the login window back to gnome, but the boot up splash screen is still kubuntu. how can I change that?06:18
v3ctorlotusleaf: lshal --monitor06:18
intelikeyman usplash06:18
ubotuusplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto06:18
intelikeycollin ^06:18
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lotusleafv3ctor: as root?06:19
lotusleafv3ctor: via sudo, whatever :)06:19
v3ctorlotusleaf: i am running as norm user06:19
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lotusleafv3ctor: thx I'm trying it and waiting to see if anything shows ;)06:20
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v3ctori am on laptop and i keep getting battery updates06:20
shidodoes anybody know how can i switch between dekstops in KDE? using the keyboard06:20
v3ctorshido: alt and the direction arrows ?06:21
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shidono v3ctor...i thought so...but it doesnt work06:21
alain_anyone has running edgy and has a floppy drive?06:21
v3ctorshido: check the keyboard shortcuts in kcontrol06:22
lotusleafalain_: yes and yes06:22
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lotusleafalain_: also see #ubuntu+106:22
shidothanks v3ctor06:22
lotusleaf Okay, so it won't hurt anything by disabling hald from starting @ boot, right? I don't plug in devices that often so I really don't need hald running all the time I gather06:23
alain_lotusleaf does it work for you to click on storage media, then floppy?06:23
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lotusleafalain_: if it's Edgy related, please re-ask me in #ubuntu+1 :) thanks06:24
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raul12 well is their any way to change .tar.bz2 into kubuntu theme file ????06:24
alain_lotusleaf the problem does not exist on ubuntu...06:25
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lotusleafalain_: I said please join #ubuntu+1 that is the edgy channel, not #ubuntu =)06:25
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lotusleafalain_: and plenty of people in #ubuntu+1 discuss kde related issues06:26
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intelikeywhy does kde reset X when starting ?    it blanks the screen 4 times (if i'm not mistaken) reloading x each time....06:26
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intelikeynone of the other desktops do that06:26
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raul12 plz help06:27
criferlotons que06:27
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ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage06:28
host-oneio m'ammazzo06:28
DaSkreechshido: Ctrl+F<n>06:28
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shidoDaSkreech, thanks... now i fixed it in the KControl options06:29
raul12 well is their any way to change .tar.bz2 into kubuntu theme file ????06:29
azzcoI think that I heard someone talking about integrating kopete and kontact in here before... is it possible?06:29
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ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy06:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about theem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:31
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McNutellahow do I make it use the default ubuntu artwork instead of kubuntu  please?06:31
ubotuInstall gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=306:31
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ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy06:32
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azzcoso is there anyway to integrate the contact list in kopete with the one in contact?06:33
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ralphAzzco you still there06:36
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ralphit is me chico ;)06:36
azzcooh :)06:36
ralphso no response yet06:37
azzcoShold have seen it some time before :) nope not yet =/06:37
abattoirazzco: sure, its possible06:37
azzconot manually I hope abattoir06:37
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intelikeyNeed to get 0B of archives.06:38
intelikeyAfter unpacking 441MB disk space will be freed.06:38
intelikeyDo you want to continue [Y/n] ? y06:38
azzcoOh silly of me >_< I just noticed the "Export Contacts"06:38
intelikeyhehhe removing python-2.406:38
abattoirazzco: hmm, ok, i was just typing it out ;)06:38
azzcoTHX anyways :)06:39
abattoirnp :)06:39
ralphExport from Kopete or Kontact?06:39
intelikeyso a lot of kde is writen in python....06:39
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beligumHi all, I did a dist-upgrade and konqueror is gone !06:44
beligumanyone having the same probs?06:44
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abattoirbeligum: in the Menu? or is the package removed?06:45
beligumthe package got removed06:45
abattoirok, then install it manually...06:45
beligumit depends on kdelibs4c2a and that fails to install06:46
intelikeykde-core depends on konqueror06:46
abattoiryou are dist-upgrading within dapper or are you upgrading to edgy?06:46
intelikeyunless that has changed in edgy   #ubuntu+106:46
beligumand that depends on libcupsys2 (>= 1.2.1), but that's not in the repo06:46
abattoirbeligum: do you have dapper updates/backports enabled?06:47
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:47
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beligumI mean, abattoir: yes06:47
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abattoirbeligum: try 'sudo apt-get update', 'sudo apt-get -f install'06:48
abattoirand then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, again06:48
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beligumalready did that06:48
beligum91 packages are kept back06:48
abattoirhmm, ok, install them manually06:49
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abattoircopy the list of packages, and paste them after sudo apt-get install06:49
beligumalready did that, fails on kdelibs4c2a:06:50
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abattoirbeligum: do you have kubuntu-desktop installed?06:51
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abattoirbeligum: could you pastebin that error message if it is long?06:51
abattoir!info kdelibs4c2a06:51
ubotukdelibs4c2a: core libraries for all KDE applications. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu18.1 (dapper), package size 8138 kB, installed size 24336 kB06:51
beligumabattoir: can't install kubuntu-desktop, it depends on kdelibs4c2a06:51
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abattoirbeligum: and have you upgraded/are trying to update to a later version of KDE06:52
beligumno, not that I know of06:52
abattoirbeligum: hmm, ok, either you didnt have kubuntu-desktop installed, or it was removed somehow06:52
abattoirbeligum: so you are still using 3.5.2 ?06:52
beligumhmm, 3.5.306:53
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beligumsec, I'll post my sources.list06:54
inteliwaspis it posible to have the disk check be postponed if the computer is running on battries?06:54
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raul12 well i am not finding my kdmrc file which need to configure my theme plz help06:55
Hawkwindlocate kdmrc  in  a terminal  Type that06:55
Ash-FoxHow does one broadcast global messages, like the way shutdown does?06:56
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TheGateKeeperinteliwasp: I think if you put an empty file called .fastboot (or something like that can't quite remember) it will skip the hdd check, if that is what you are talking about06:56
TheGateKeeperin the /06:57
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beligumHere it is: http://beligum.org/pub/sources.list06:57
beligumhmm, http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest is probably the tricky one06:57
trappistbeligum: so, your nick is not a typo :)06:58
beligumno, it's not :)06:58
inteliwaspi don't mind running it, just not when i need the computer fast...06:58
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abattoirbeligum: you dont seem to have dapper-updates.... unless i missed it06:58
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beligumabattoir: can you post the line I'm missing?06:59
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abattoirbeligum: deb http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted06:59
abattoirbeligum: np, tell me if it works.. (should work ;) )07:00
beligumabattoir: you rule !07:01
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abattoirbeligum: you have kde-latest, and i asked you if you upgraded your KDE version :P07:01
raul12 i am always finding .tar.b2z themes which i am u able to install plz can u tell me where can i find kubuntu theme07:01
abattoir*upgraded KDE to a later version ;)07:01
beligumyeah, I'm sorry, forgot I included that one in the beginning07:01
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raul12 me upgrade KDE ???07:02
abattoirraul12: why arent you able to install them? what sort of themes?07:02
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abattoirraul12: no, that was not for you07:02
raul12 KDE themes07:02
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GeorgeM36GrHello all07:02
abattoirraul12: different parts of KDE can be themed, so which part?07:02
beligumpffiew, thank god the solution was so easy, I thought I had to flash back 5 years and manually install packages again07:02
raul12Put the theme folder in ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes07:02
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raul12Edit your ~/.kde/share/config/kdm/kdmrc07:02
raul12Change or add the line Theme=~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes/"THEMENAME"07:02
raul12Restart KDE07:02
abattoirraul12: give me the link to the theme you are trying to install07:02
abattoirraul12: ok, you are trying to install a kdm theme07:03
abattoirraul12: i suggest installing the kdm theme manager07:03
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raul12 but kdm manager wont support .tar.bz207:03
raul12 and it wont install07:04
abattoirraul12: you can either follow those instructions... or install kdmtheme07:04
abattoirraul12: really?07:04
raul12 try it07:04
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raul12 i did and it wont install07:04
abattoiryou have kdmtheme installed?07:04
abattoir!info kdmtheme07:04
ubotukdmtheme: Theme switcher for Kdm. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-1 (dapper), package size 70 kB, installed size 212 kB07:04
abattoiror did you compile it?07:05
raul12 well i am using kcontrol07:05
raul12 to install theme07:05
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abattoirraul12: yes, kde has no KDM theming system by default, install that package, it'll make managing KDM themes easier :)07:06
Dr_willistheme overload07:06
raul12iam on it07:06
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Dr_willisi think the term 'theme' is way way over used tehse days07:11
alain_anyone has an MSI KT6 Delta mainboard and is running edgy?07:11
Dr_willisi rember a program that had 'themes' 'schemes' and 'layouts' :) 3 differnt themable aspects of the program.07:11
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alain_or at least an ac97 audio chipset07:12
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Dr_willisisent ac97 a rather generic term? like "sound blaster compatiable' used to be?07:13
wildchildis there any text editor in conzole for kubunto?07:13
Tm_Twildchild: nano, vim, joe, emacs... tons of it07:14
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rittaphello all!07:15
TheGateKeeperwildchild: yep quite a few, nano is the one I use07:16
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wildchildnano is simple to use, i like it this way :)07:16
TheGateKeepervim also07:17
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raul12 i cant install .tar.bz2 theme through kcontrol and kdmtheme07:18
raul12 help07:18
rittapraul12: tell us what went wrong, so we can help you better07:18
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raul12 well then i located the file by *.* then open it , now it wont give me any preview07:19
raul12 so i think it wont install07:20
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rittapso u tried to unpack the tarball07:20
raul12 and nothing happned when i applaied the theme07:20
raul12 yup07:20
rittapraul12: and there isn't any makefile?07:20
raul12 and i did it with unzipping tar07:21
raul12 nope07:21
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rittaphmm, maybe the download is corrupt07:21
rittaptry downloading it again and check it on the hash (if possible)07:21
raul12 well i am givin u the link plz check07:21
arepiehello, how to change the first page, i mean the login page from console to the original back?07:22
rittapraul12: hold please07:22
raul12 also read install how to07:22
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raul12 i cant find the file mentioned their07:22
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hans_Moin, moin!07:23
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raul12 well any luck guys ??07:23
rittapraul12: try this07:23
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raul12 tell07:23
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arepiei have accidentaly change the login KDE desktop to console, how to change it back to the original form?07:24
rittapput the file in an empty folder, then become root (or use sudo) and type the following07:24
rittapraul12: ./configure <enter>07:24
raul12 ok07:24
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raul12 is the file or the tar ball07:24
rittapwhen done: make <enter>07:24
ubotulogin: system login tools. In component main, is required. Version 1:4.0.13-7ubuntu3.2 (dapper), package size 235 kB, installed size 2036 kB07:24
claudio_claudio@claudio:~$ sudo ifconfig sit0 up /07:24
claudio_SIOCSIFNETMASK: Impossibile assegnare l'indirizzo richiesto07:24
claudio_Host sconosciuto07:24
rittapno in the unpacked tarball07:24
raul12 ok07:25
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raul12 thx07:26
raul12 i am on it07:26
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rittapraul12: ping me again if you need more help on this subject !07:27
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raul12 ./configure is not found07:28
raul12 i cd into the un zipp folder07:28
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raul12 then run ./configure07:28
rittapand there's config file07:28
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raul12 where07:29
i32madevsomeone speak spanish?? or it's necessary to speak in english?07:29
rittapsorry typo07:29
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.07:29
i32madevthanks a lot07:29
rittapthere's no config file huh07:29
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MukiEXi32madev : I do, a bit07:29
rittaphang on07:29
MukiEXooh, that's convinient.07:29
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rittapraul12: hold07:30
rittapwe have a pastbin for that07:30
raul12  sry i misclicked onpaste07:30
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B-Minusi installed samba, i have smbclient etc but i dont have smbfs ???07:30
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rittapraul12: you tried to follow the install instructions on the website?07:31
raul12what u told07:31
rittapyeah ok07:32
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rittapbut have you also tried that one07:32
rittapbecause if that doesn't work...07:32
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raul12well i did07:32
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raul12it doesnt work07:32
rittapwhy is that?07:32
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raul12no files found07:33
rittaplet me try to install07:33
raul12no ./configure in the theme !!07:33
omar__Guys, I am gonna install Windows in my PC, and I have xubuntu, how can I do it without touching my xubuntu07:33
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raul12creat a seperate partitation07:34
raul12ans install win teir07:34
omar__raul12 how can i do that07:34
raul12well u can do that by gettin Gparted07:35
raul12a partitation software07:35
omar__raul12 let me check, thanks, how much disk do you think I will need for a XP07:36
rittapraul12: have u installed kdm07:36
rittap!kdm > rittap07:36
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ubotukdm: X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 600 kB, installed size 1468 kB07:36
raul12well 2 gb is more than enough07:36
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Manyfoldis there an xgl how to for kubuntu?07:36
omar__raul12 i can't find Gparted, do you know another one07:37
rittap!kdm > raul1207:37
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raul12@ omar go to07:37
rittapraul12: check if you do07:38
raul12u can fing gpated in here in .iso07:38
rittapits necessary07:38
raul12i am on it07:38
arepiei have accidentaly change the login KDE desktop to console, how to change it back to the original form?07:38
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intelikeyhmmm kde is running but not installed... interesting...07:40
intelikeyarepie startx07:40
intelikeyarepie errr if you can't figure that out, sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm07:41
intelikeyshould fix you....07:41
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rittapraul12: and?07:43
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steff_Hi. Anyone having any experience with the ati-linux drivers? Running kubuntu edgy on my HP nc8000 laptop.  radeon mobility 9600. i get bad parformens from the ati driver compared to the driver that comes with the installation of ubuntu.?!07:44
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MukiEXRun fglrxinfo07:45
MukiEXAnd go to #ati, we can discuss it there07:45
steff_okay thx07:46
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raul12 well kdm is installed07:47
raul12 now i am upgrading it07:47
rittapcheck the apart msg07:47
raul12 k07:47
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raul12 is their any way to compile it ??07:48
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rittapraul12: kdm? or the theme?07:49
raul12 theme07:49
Dr_willis!info build-essential07:49
rittapraul12: I don't think so, but i'm not an expert07:49
ubotubuild-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB07:49
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raul12 well i have that package07:49
raul12 build essential07:50
Search4Lancerhow do I damn "Slow Keys" to fire and brimstone so it will leave me alone?07:50
raul12 and want to compile theme07:50
Dr_willisSlow Keys?07:50
raul12 but it wont07:50
rittapraul12: I gotta go. I hope u will find the solution07:50
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raul12 ok thx any way07:50
Dr_willisraul12,  you will need some of the different -dev packages as well07:50
rittapraul12: ur welcome07:50
rittapbye all07:50
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raul12 can specify the packages that i may need ?07:51
raul12 @Dr07:51
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Dr_willisI tend to just 'apt-cache search kde | grep dev' and install them all. :)07:51
raul12 why ??07:51
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Dr_willisHOW can i tell what ones a theme may or may not need. :P07:51
LjLDr_willis: usually i install kdelibs4-dev07:52
Dr_willis./configure and look for any errors. :)07:52
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LjLunless the program needs something very special, that's usually good enough07:52
raul12 but when opening theme file07:52
Dr_willisLjL,  yea.. i tend to use the shotgun method. :)07:52
khirrguys, is there Macromedia Flash for kubuntu?07:52
raul12 i wont find any ./configure file07:52
Dr_williskhirr,  the latest flash is  comming out soon for linux i hear.07:52
raul12 yup their is macro07:52
Dr_williswork time fo rme.. bbl07:52
khirrbut, if i wanna use macromedia flash..what should i do?07:53
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:53
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raul12 well u can use convectional adept07:53
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raul12 and install it from their07:53
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:53
raul12 yup07:53
motscould it be, that my kde-internet-libs are kinda broken?07:53
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Hawkwindkhirr: However, a lot of sites require flash 8 or newer, and Linux only has flash 7 and we won't get a new version until version 9 is released after the first of the year for Linux07:53
raul12 or go to the site download the tar ball07:54
raul12 and compile it ur self07:54
khirri work with macromedia flash :(07:54
motsinternet with konqueror/internetfunctions of amaroK don't work07:54
LjLor contribute to some free flash clone project :P07:54
motsaltough gtk-progs work perfectly well07:54
Hawkwindraul12: You can't compile flash higher than version 7 for Linux07:55
HawkwindIf you could, there would be a flash 8 or 9 for Linux07:55
intelikeykhirr change jobs   :)07:55
raul12 but flash 7 is all we have07:55
raul12 4 now07:55
khirri dont wanna back to windows :(07:55
LjLwell, doesn't Flash work in Wine anyway?07:55
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Hawkwindraul12: I stated that07:55
raul12 well flash 9 will be out soon 4 linux07:55
intelikeywe don't want you too but we don't want you to use flash either07:55
raul12 lol ^_^07:56
HawkwindYou can however run your app in wine that uses the newer flash if you are really that desperate07:56
khirri cant do run flash under wine07:56
khirri cant run anyprogram under wine07:56
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khirri dont know how it worl07:56
raul12 why ??07:56
Hawkwindraul12: Not soon.  Probably not until around May or June of 200707:56
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LjLthen your wine install has something wrong with it i guess :o)07:56
raul12 well i stall it07:56
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.07:56
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raul12 install it07:56
LjLkhirr: well, for programs that work out of the box, you just type "wine setup.exe"07:56
raul12 better go to wine home site07:56
LjLa few programs need some tweaking, granted07:56
raul12 their is lot better documentation07:57
khirrto can install one program?07:57
raul12 ^_^07:57
excitatoryyou can track the flash 9 linux dev here: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/07:57
mini_gamer1896khirr, also, Wine's homepage is http://www.winehq.com07:57
raul12 yup07:57
mini_gamer1896goto ApplicationDB07:57
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motsno help?07:58
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LjLkhirr: winehq.com's application db contains a list of windows software with comments on whether it works on not, and hopefully how to make it work07:58
mini_gamer1896and do a search for the flash program under the title, there might be some tricks that are posted there07:58
khirri'll check now07:58
mini_gamer1896*title name07:58
khirrthe hardest problem is, all in english only (:(07:59
mini_gamer1896you could use the google translator07:59
mini_gamer1896for the page(s)07:59
LjLyou even perhaps *not* :P07:59
intelikeyyeah those bleedin' anglish...07:59
raul12 yup that good choice07:59
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raul12 and if u use oprea then u can download google translator wigets08:00
LjLwell Konqueror comes with a translation plugin as well08:00
LjLuses babelfish though IIRC08:00
khirrthe progam that i wanna run must be installed on my PC, or i can install one software since wine?08:00
LjLkhirr: eh?08:01
intelikeykhirr yes08:01
claudio_root@claudio:/home/claudio# ifconfig sit0 /08:01
claudio_SIOCSIFNETMASK: Impossibile assegnare l'indirizzo richiesto08:01
claudio_Host sconosciuto08:01
claudio_ifconfig: `--help' gives usage information.08:01
khirrcan i install?08:01
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)08:01
mini_gamer1896khirr, if you have wine installed, than it creates a virtual windows system under your home directory08:01
intelikeykhirr some things   yes08:01
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LjLkhirr: you can install programs from wine, *assuming* they can work on wine08:01
mini_gamer1896it installs to there08:01
khirrwine is as emulator08:02
mini_gamer1896and ditto to LjL08:02
LjLkhirr: yes and no08:02
mini_gamer1896& no?08:02
khirris as have win on my linux?08:02
LjLkhirr: it's a compatibility layer, strictly speaking08:02
intelikeyno.   wine is wine is not an emulator08:02
mini_gamer1896ah, k08:02
LjLmini_gamer1896: well, the name "wine" means Wine Is Not an Emulator...08:02
mini_gamer1896duh, true08:02
khirrso funny08:02
intelikeywine is an application layer08:02
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LjLkhirr: it's called a recursive acronym. common in the unix world...08:03
raul12 yup thats right08:03
LjLkhirr: abbreviation08:03
claudio_LjL: have you an idea?08:03
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raul12 i am afk 4 few mins08:03
motsas in GNU=GNU is Not Unix08:03
LjLkhirr: like AFK is an acronym meaning Away From Keyboard08:04
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khirri dindt know that08:04
LjLclaudio_: only wired connection here, sorry08:04
khirrwow, knowing more08:04
khirrso interesnting08:04
intelikeyLjL pebcak  ?     lol08:04
LjLkhirr: IMHO = in my humble opinion, AFAIK = as far as i know, BBL = be back later, BRB = be right back... and lots more on IRC :)08:04
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LjLintelikey: eh? :o)08:05
ubotuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2108:05
khirrbrb i knowed, but bbl? imho :S08:05
intelikeysome use *kac  same meaning.08:05
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intelikeyproblem exists between chair and keyboard08:05
LjLintelikey: uuuh... problem existing between chair and keyboard...?08:06
khirri wanna download wine08:06
LjLwow, got it right08:06
khirrwhere can i do it?08:06
LjLkhirr: "sudo apt-get install wine"08:06
LjLkhirr: type that in a shell08:06
khirrlets se08:07
intelikeyLjL pebcak is a common issue in *buntu.   :)08:07
intelikeythere is no patch as of yet.08:07
LjLintelikey: well, perhaps my brain simply filters awkcronyms it doesn't know :)08:07
khirri'm logged as root, but i cant08:07
LjLah, so it's a bug :P08:08
LjLkhirr: what does it say08:08
khirrthe packed isnt disponible08:08
LjLkhirr: you mean "the package is not available"... what's your language by the way?08:08
intelikeykhirr apt-get install wine   ?08:08
LjLkhirr: you need to enable universe08:08
khirris spanish :S08:09
intelikey!info wine08:09
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB08:09
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intelikeyit's in universe08:09
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:09
LjLkhirr: universe is a repository that isn't enabled by default08:09
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khirri'll check it now08:09
intelikeykhirr https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:09
claudio_what is repository?08:09
claudio_is a server?08:10
LjLkhirr: a dirty way to enable it is typing     sudo sed "s/main/main restricted universe multiverse" /etc/apt/sources.list08:10
LjLkhirr: a dirty way to enable it is typing     sudo sed "s/main/main restricted universe multiverse/" /etc/apt/sources.list08:10
LjLclaudio_: no, a repository is a place containing packages for ubuntu08:10
intelikeyi wonder if removing python-minimal will have any adverse affect on my system....08:10
ubotuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!08:10
intelikeyclaudio_ is a section on a server08:10
LjLclaudio_: there is a "main" repository, which is enabled by default, and there are the "universe" and "multiverse" repositories, which are not enabled by default08:10
claudio_section of wath?08:10
intelikeyLjL s/main.*/08:11
LjLclaudio_: programs. it contains programs to install08:11
LjLintelikey: works without the .* :)08:11
intelikeyelse you will get some repetes08:11
claudio_I don't understand08:11
LjLintelikey: hm yeah, guess you're right08:11
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khirri pasted that u said08:11
claudio_Is a program, a place,a section?08:11
LjLclaudio_: software. programs for ubuntu.08:11
claudio_like urpmi for mdk or emerge for gentoo?08:12
Hawkwindclaudio_: apt-get ?08:12
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LjLclaudio_: un repository contiene "pacchetti", che sono programmi per ubuntu. se hai un dato repository abilitato, basta scrivere "sudo apt-get install qualcosa" per installare il pacchetto "qualcosa". ci sono circa 18000 pacchetti in totale08:12
intelikeyecho "blah main universe" | sed 's/main/main universe/g'    and see what it does08:12
claudio_LjL sei italiano?08:12
HawkwindUmmm, that should be in English since this is an English channel08:12
intelikeyLjL ^08:12
LjLyep, but here we should speak english08:12
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!08:12
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claudio_si ok, ma non ho capito cos'e' il repository08:13
claudio_ho capito che contiene programmi08:13
LjLenglish please, or private message me08:13
claudio_505]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )08:14
intelikeyljl correct syntax. echo "blah main universe" | sed 's/main.*/main universe/g'08:14
LjLclaudio_: right. join #ubuntu-it08:14
intelikeyLjL i knew that.  but made the same blunder eariler.   someone pointed it out for me... :)08:14
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LjLintelikey, actually i think that someone was me, and you were writing "s/main*/......../"08:16
intelikeysed 's/main .*/main restricted universe multiverse/g' /etc/apt/sources.list ./sources.list08:17
JohnFluxIf when decoding a character is invalid, what does the font renderer display it as?  a question mark?08:17
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intelikeyLjL :)08:17
intelikeywelcome to my world  :)08:17
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LjLJohnFlux: depends... most characters that my fonts don't have get displayed as an empty box, i think08:18
soulriderhi everyone08:18
intelikeyJohnFlux should be either a question mark or a blank space or a dot  depending on the decoder and the renderer08:18
soulriderany java programmers here ? i wanna know if there is a way to interact with the console froma  java application08:18
LjLintelikey: ;-) basically we should really use some form of "s/deb(.*)main.*/deb\1main restricted universe multiverse/g" if we wanted to do things right... but i haven't tested this sort of thing yet08:19
intelikeyyeah blank space may show as  [] 08:19
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JohnFluxintelikey: in google mail i've got an email with lots of ?'s08:19
DaSkreechAsh-Fox: Wall i think08:19
intelikeyLjL or grep -v'#'  the thing  :)08:20
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Ash-FoxDaSkreech, thankyou :)08:20
jhutchins_wkJohnFlux: Most likely something asian with lots of unprintable characters.08:20
intelikeyyeah font/language/rendering unknow08:20
intelikeyJohnFlux ^08:20
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JohnFluxintelikey: but there's no way of knowing if the email is literally full of ?'s08:21
intelikeypipe everything.08:21
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intelikeyJohnFlux yeah there should be.   maybe pipe it through  | tr -d '?'08:22
intelikeyand compare08:22
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intelikeyJohnFlux actually that question would be better suited for #bash   or  #linux08:24
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khirri forogot my examen :S08:25
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intelikeymeaning you would find more pertanant help there08:25
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J-Khe is xgl also for kubuntu or they gonna release a version with xgl?08:26
B-Minus_can i see somehwere with konqueror how big my whole linux partition is ?08:26
B-Minus_and how much is left08:26
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GeorgeM36Grhello ppl08:27
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GeorgeM36Grdoes anyone have kubuntu 6.06.1 running on a core2duo with abitab9 pro_08:27
inamB-Minus_, do you want to run fdisk from the konsole ?08:27
GeorgeM36Gri cant install the thing...08:27
intelikeyB-Minus_ there is an app  but the cli app "df"   is on every gnu/linux system08:27
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intelikeyinam that doesn't look like his quarry08:28
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motscould anyonetell me how i get the huuuge navigation icons in konqueror smaller?08:28
intelikeylooks like he's searching for a gui'd df08:29
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intelikeyGeorgeM36Gr not i.08:30
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GeorgeM36Grintelikey thanks for the reply08:30
intelikeymots right click and configure   or  in kcontrol    (blanket answer)08:30
mini_gamer1896!apt-get gnome08:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apt-get gnome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:31
ultm8hi dad08:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gnome-desktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:31
intelikeyGeorgeM36Gr heh no problem.  i'm still on dialup with a p1  so i can't help with that hardware question.08:31
GeorgeM36Grintelikey dialup with p1? woaaaw08:32
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DaSkreech!xgl > Manyfold08:32
khirrneed mozilla direct X08:32
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ultm8ERIC LOOK HERE!!!! **************************************************08:32
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GeorgeM36Gri was trying the 64bit ... but it failed... and someppl in here told me to try the 32bit version and it fails :(08:32
intelikeyB-Minus_ there is a graphic (pie chart looking)  disk usage app.   i just don't remember the name of it.08:32
khirrhelp (:(08:32
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khirrneed direct X08:32
khirrfor wine08:32
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GeorgeM36Gris ubuntu better than kubuntu?08:33
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khirrACTIVE X08:33
motsintelikey: where in kcontrol?08:33
khirrwine need ACTIVE X08:33
intelikeyGeorgeM36Gr it's the same OS08:33
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khirrbut cant download08:33
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B-Minus_intelikey:  thats ok, i have all the info i need with df08:33
GeorgeM36Grintelikey i know it is but maybe it works with core2duo?08:34
intelikeyonly differance is the desktop environment that is installed by default08:34
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GeorgeM36Gruhhh ok08:34
aseigoGeorgeM36Gr: kubuntu is ubuntu with kde on it08:34
aseigoGeorgeM36Gr: so if you prefer kde's approach to things, like many people do, then it's a nice little improvement to an otherwise great os08:34
aseigowow. massive lag.08:34
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GeorgeM36Graseigo I prefer kde08:35
intelikeyB-Minus_ yes and after you have learned the cli apps you find that the gui is little more than eye candy wrapped around the cli-app08:35
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B-Minus_intelikey: great, Im reading a lot of sites now and they all tell me that08:35
GeorgeM36Graseigo but what I like is not important now as I can install the thing08:35
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aseigoGeorgeM36Gr: the installation system is the same on both08:36
intelikeyaseigo yeah i'm about to lag plumb out..   25S +08:36
GeorgeM36Graseigo cool it wont work then...there is no point downloading it08:36
aseigoGeorgeM36Gr: heh... sorry =)08:36
soulrideris anyone having problems with NTFS partitions?08:36
khirrneed ACTIVEX (:(08:36
soulrideri go to mediaL/ in konqueror08:36
soulriderand i see my NTFS partitions08:36
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soulriderbut the icon is grey as if they wer eunmounted08:37
soulriderand i cant mount them or access them08:37
soulriderthey used to work, but they dont now08:37
soulrideri can browse my NTFS drives through amarok or krusader, but not using konqueror08:37
khirrhow can i access to my hda 5 since konsole?08:37
claydohkhirr: what work they have accomplished in wine re: activex is already built in08:38
soulriderkhirr: type "cd media/hdb5/08:38
soulriderkhirr: type "cd media/hda5/08:38
intelikeysoulrider nope.... hehe08:39
khirrhow can i put DIR?08:39
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soulrideror ls08:39
intelikeysoulrider cd /media/blah maybe   but i doubt that cd media/ will get anyone anywhere08:39
khirrhow can i run macromedia flash08:40
khirri have that install in my hda508:40
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soulriderah yes, i forgot the first slash, i allways forget that08:40
khirris in ntfs unit08:40
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intelikeykhirr man intro        man man         man ls      man cd    man mount     man cp     man rm     man mv08:41
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands08:41
khirri dont understand08:41
intelikeythen install mc and use it..... :)08:41
claydohwell that really helps08:41
B-Minus_does anyone know if there are replacement-apps for linux for these windows apps : Citrix management console, Remote Desktop, Lotus Notes, Dameware08:42
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claydohyou have to know the commands before you use man, man :)08:42
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khirri wanna run macromedia flash (:(08:43
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soulriderwine ?08:43
intelikeyclaydoh man intro and man man  were to teach how to use the man command08:43
claydohmaybe, or possibly crossover office08:43
Hawkwindkhirr: So run it.  Install flash on Kubuntu08:44
claydohstuill doesn't help a newbie well08:44
Hawkwind!flash > khirr08:44
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khirrhow install flash on kubuntu08:44
Hawkwindkhirr: Read what the bot just sent you in pm08:44
DaSkreechintelikey: so you know tee?08:44
claydohi think he wants flash  not flashplayer08:44
khirrthere are 3 directions08:44
Hawkwindkhirr: You mean flash for viewing webpages ?08:45
intelikeyDaSkreech yeah08:45
khirri'm not really good in english08:45
khirrno no no08:45
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khirrflash to can ru .fla files08:45
khirrcreate flash08:45
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Hawkwindkhirr: Then ask you in your native language channel.  What is your native language ?08:45
intelikeyDaSkreech what about it ?08:45
khirrsi :D08:45
Hawkwindkhirr: Then ask in #Ubuntu-ES or #Kubuntu-ES08:45
soulriderestas registrado? podemos hablar por PM08:45
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khirrsi estoy registrado, pero nose como logearme08:46
HawkwindEnglish only here please08:46
soulriderescribe /msg nickserv identify <password>08:46
soulridersry hawk <308:46
khirrvamos a private08:46
MondorYes, this channel is for native africans only.08:46
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.08:46
Hawkwindkhirr: ^^^^^^^^^^^08:47
LjLkhirr: /msg nickserv identify tu-password08:47
B-Minus_is it possible to use the windows fonts in kde ?08:47
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HawkwindB-Minus_: If you install msttcorefonts08:47
DaSkreechintelikey: Ah you said you were a plumber :) tee is a plumbing tool08:47
B-Minus_and then i need to set it to every application individualy ?08:47
HawkwindB-Minus_: You can also import the fonts from your windows box if you have one08:48
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intelikeyyes it is.08:48
HawkwindB-Minus_: You might could do it globally in kcontrol -> Fonts or something like that