[12:12] <zam> claudio_: you need to install codecs win32 codecs ffmpg etc ....
[12:12] <VanessaE> intel: did you find anything else that looked like it could be the nvidia.ko module?
[12:12] <claudio_> zam xmms works
[12:12] <Sanne> LjL: I don't like the backticks, because they are in such an obscure location on my keyboard. ;)
[12:12] <intelikey> i can modprobe nvidia_agp   and it is now inserted  but that didn't change the error on startx
[12:13] <VanessaE> intel: naw, it has to be nvidia
[12:13] <VanessaE> nvidia_agp I think is their equiv of agpgart
[12:13] <slow_motion> how to install file transfer plug in in kopete???
[12:13] <VanessaE> if all else fails, do what I did; grab the driver from nvidia.com and install it the 'normal' way :)
[12:13] <intelikey> agpgart is using nvidia-agp  so yes probably
[12:14] <intelikey> VanessaE what about  /lib/linux-restricted-modules/2.6.15-23-386/nvidia/nvidia.mod.o ?
[12:14] <VanessaE> nope, that's a kernel 2.4 module
[12:14] <VanessaE> (or a piece of unlinked code)
[12:14] <VanessaE> (wtf is that doing in a 2.6.* tree?)
[12:14] <axel> !sylpheed
[12:14] <ubotu> sylpheed: Light weight e-mail client with GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.4-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 551 kB, installed size 1376 kB
[12:15] <intelikey> ok i'll modprobe
[12:15] <intelikey> nope...
[12:16] <VanessaE> hm
[12:16] <VanessaE> dapper right?
[12:16] <intelikey> right
[12:16] <VanessaE> I wonder if..  thought I saw something about an alternative name for that package..
[12:16] <LjL> Sanne: they aren't even *there* on my keyboard... except the keyboard layout i use is actually different from what's printed on the keyboard ;)
[12:18] <VanessaE> hm, maybe not.
[12:18] <intelikey> i followed the wiki except for one point in the prerequsites.   it said "you need 3d acceleration"  i don't but thought i'd install the driver anyway.
[12:19] <VanessaE> strange, that *should* work.
[12:19] <intelikey> hehhe
[12:19] <intelikey> yeah
[12:19] <VanessaE> well
[12:20] <VanessaE> only thing I can think of is if the restricted-modules package didn't actually supply the nvidia driver (or all of it)
[12:20] <VanessaE> are you opposed to using the 'official' nvidia package?
[12:20] <intelikey> not really.   just wanted to see if all the "whining" about the wiki was valid or not...
[12:21] <intelikey> it is.
[12:21] <VanessaE> hm
[12:21] <VanessaE> Not sure if what I'm looking at is the one you're talking about, but this one does get kinda convoluted.
[12:22] <intelikey> !ati
[12:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:22] <intelikey> that link  ^
[12:22] <Sanne> LjL: heh :) In any case, I welcome their deprecation (is that a word?).
[12:22] <VanessaE> oh, nope, I'm seeing a different one (http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper)
[12:22] <cipher> !adept crash
[12:22] <ubotu> adept: package manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 3752 kB, installed size 10988 kB
[12:22] <hans> Mahlzeit!
[12:22] <LjL> Sanne: think so :)
[12:22] <cipher> my adept crash.. how to repair?
[12:23] <hans> apt-get -f install
[12:23] <claudio_> I need skype
[12:23] <axel> !frostwire
[12:23] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[12:24] <claudio_> !skype
[12:24] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[12:24] <hans> apt-get install skype; if not possible, activate the universe repositories in your sources.list...
[12:24] <VanessaE> hm...frostwire?  *bite*
[12:25] <VanessaE> looks like a direct clone of limewire...I like :)
[12:25] <axel> frostwire works hard on linux same as limewire
[12:25] <claudio_> how can I enable universe repositoers?
[12:26] <LjL> !universe
[12:26] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:26] <claudio_> where is the file that I must edit?
[12:26] <LjL> it's /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:26] <VanessaE> claudio_, /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:26] <slow_motion> how to install file transfer plug in in kopete??? please can somebody help me??
[12:26] <intelikey> claudio_ /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:27] <arepie> does anybody knows how to check my PCI bus is?
[12:27] <arepie> *is
[12:27] <arepie> *id
[12:28] <intelikey> claudio_ sed 's/main*/main restricted universe multiverse/g' /etc/apt/sources.list          :)
[12:28] <VanessaE> aww it's still java...well at least it runs :)
[12:28] <VanessaE> arpie: busid's can be found with lspci
[12:28] <VanessaE> the first column in the listing shows the busid for eash device.
[12:28] <VanessaE> each
[12:28] <intelikey> lshw
[12:28] <claudio_> intelikey: what I must modify in sources.list?
[12:29] <intelikey> claudio_ sed 's/main*/main restricted universe multiverse/g'
[12:29] <claudio_> ?
[12:29] <claudio_> what is?
[12:29] <intelikey> all lines with main*      to    main restricted universe multiverse       where * == anything.
[12:30] <LjL> intelikey: should be "s/main.*/etc/g", but anyway :P
[12:30] <excitatory> when ripping cds on linux, how do you all handle the pregaps since cdparanoia doesn't support pregap detection?
[12:31] <LjL> intelikey: "*" alone just means "the previous character, repeated zero or more times". so that expression actually matches "mai" (not "main"), followed by whatever
[12:31] <intelikey> LjL no   don't change main to etc
[12:31] <LjL> intelikey: err, no, i simply wrote "etc" to avoid rewriting the second part
[12:31] <intelikey> oh ok
[12:31] <intelikey> yeah
[12:31] <claudio_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/3O5zk211.html
[12:31] <intelikey> .*
[12:33] <intelikey> LjL and that's kinda convoluted in it's own rite.    sed should have used * where . is   or something....
[12:33] <claudio_> have you seen?
[12:33] <claudio_> have you seen?
[12:34] <tony_> whats the best Html,css,php ..etc IDE for linux ?
[12:34] <tony_> even commercial one
[12:36] <VanessaE> claudio_, See those two lines (27,28) that are commented out?
[12:36] <VanessaE> uncomment them.
[12:36] <LjL> intelikey: well, that's standard regular expressions... "." indicates "any character", and "*" indicates "the previous character repeated zero or more times" ("+" indicates "the previous char, one or more times")
[12:36] <zam> can any one help with this erorr pleases "A problem occur while loading a library or a decoder: divxc32.dll"    ?
[12:36] <LjL> intelikey: actually, you can just scrap the whole * stuff and just write s/main/whatever, since it's implied that "main" can be preceeded and followed by anything
[12:36] <Sanne> tony_: 'best' is a matter of taste... some like quanta, some like bluefish, some just use a text editor with syntax highlighting.
[12:37] <zam> CVirus: you are here man
[12:37] <VanessaE> ..and some use a text editor *without* syntax highlighting ;)
[12:37] <tony_> well, im not into text editor. im not very well verse with php and stuff. but didn't l ike blue fish ..
[12:37] <LjL> i use cat
[12:37] <CVirus> zam: yes ?
[12:37] <Sanne> VanessaE: really? How could they live throught that? ;)
[12:37] <claudio_> VanessaE: yes
[12:38] <VanessaE> sanne: very carefully, and by staying about 10 years behind current web trends :)
[12:38] <Sanne> VanessaE: lol ;)
[12:38] <tony_> dose Quanta PHP ..
[12:38] <zamaliphe> CVirus: i have install kubuntu but i cant run any video fills
[12:38] <VanessaE> claudio_, remove the leading "#" from those two lines, re-save, and then do a  sudo apt-get update
[12:38] <VanessaE> whatever it is you're looking for in multiverse should then become available.
[12:39] <CVirus> !restricted formats
[12:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:39] <CVirus> zamaliphe: ^
[12:39] <CVirus> zamaliphe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[12:39] <zamaliphe> CVirus: yes i guess
[12:39] <draik_> Where do I find/get the special characters... characters with accents and such
[12:39] <Sanne> tony_: I heard good things about quanta, try it out, it should be apt-gettable. I think you should learn those languages, though, if you plan to use them.
[12:39] <VanessaE> my husband uses quanta, it seems to work ok for him
[12:39] <tony_> zamaliphe::: the best audio /video player that i found for both linux and window , is VLC.. is avalible trough adept
[12:40] <zamaliphe> tony_: i like kaffeine
[12:40] <LjL> intelikey: or even... you could make that sed "s/deb(.*)main.*/deb\1main restricted universe multiverse/" (didn't test)
[12:40] <draik> such as a' e' i' o' u' n~ and such
[12:40] <VanessaE> xine works ok for me (but I had to roll my own, default build doesn't support win32codecs)
[12:40] <VanessaE> (or dvdcss)
[12:40] <tony_> kaffeine wont play all format ..unless you have to install codec.. but VLC dose that very easy
[12:41] <LjL> intelikey: that should avoid modifying commented lines (and the word "main" appears in some of the standard Ubuntu sources.list), as well as avoid repeating the "restricted universe multiverse" stuff in lines that already have it
[12:41] <claudio_> VanessaE: i done
[12:41] <claudio_> but nothing
[12:41] <excitatory> tony_: also look into nvu .. similar to dreamweaver in many ways, but more simple and cleaner..   slightly less powerful, but still nice.
[12:41] <VanessaE> claudio: what exactly did you do and got nothing from?
[12:42] <tony_> yes.. i think NVU is nice.. i have to read more about it though..
[12:42] <claudio_> I uncommented those two lines
[12:42] <claudio_> i saved
[12:42] <claudio_> apt-get update
[12:42] <VanessaE> ok, good
[12:42] <claudio_> apt-get install skype
[12:42] <VanessaE> ok
[12:42] <VanessaE> I didn't catch that before - last I knew skype was not in the repositories.
[12:42] <VanessaE> you have to go to the website and download the .deb from them and use dpkg to install it
[12:43] <VanessaE> has that changed?
[12:44] <claudio_> VanessaE: wrote: apt-get install upgrade
[12:47] <VanessaE> that's not how it's done
[12:47] <VanessaE> that command would try to find a program called 'upgrade' and install it :)
[12:48] <claudio_> VanessaE: and now?
[12:48] <claudio_> I done
[12:48] <VanessaE> well since you want skype, you have to go to skype.com and locate the debian (or ubuntu?) package and download it
[12:49] <alejandro> uhmmm, how can I know if I'm running xorg? =/
[12:49] <claudio_> doen't matter that I installed updrade?
[12:49] <VanessaE> alejandro, you're running xorg. :)
[12:49] <VanessaE> (ubuntu doens't use xf86)
[12:49] <alejandro> hehe, yeah, but I installed xgl and I have no clue if it's working
[12:49] <VanessaE> claudio: nope, doesn't matter - that should have errored out
[12:49] <alejandro> or xgl is part of xorg?
[12:49] <alejandro> (i have no idea about it)
[12:50] <VanessaE> eh, don't know about xgl :)
[12:50] <intelikey> ok.  i'm back.
[12:50] <VanessaE> wb intel.  any luck with nvidia?
[12:50] <intelikey> i think i will try this   http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html    from method two on the page you mentioned VanessaE
[12:51] <VanessaE> claudio: go here:   http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/      and download the "Debian package (9.6 MB)"
[12:51] <ja> Hi folks. I'm trying to follow the instructions here http://swem.wm.edu/blogs/waynegraham/index.cfm/2006/8/17/Improving-Ubuntu-GUI-Resposiveness
[12:52] <pointwood> has it been decided when edgy eft is going to be released other than something this month?
[12:52] <snook353> i made a deb with alien.  where should i put it?  where are the rest of the debs?
[12:52] <intelikey> i'm on dialup so things can get bogged down if i'm dl'ing  anything.      it takes all my band-narrowness
[12:52] <VanessaE> intel: that's how I do it
[12:52] <ja> but the command "sudo modprobe speedstep-centrino" doesn't work. Should this not be in the repository?
[12:52] <VanessaE> intel: a friend of mine calls it "bandnarrowth" :)
[12:52] <BonBonTheJon> snook353: do 'sudo dpkg -i package'
[12:52] <snook353> ok, thanks again bonbonthejon
[12:52] <VanessaE> pointwood, think someone said 26 Oct.
[12:53] <pointwood> okay, thanks
[12:53] <intelikey> :)
[12:53] <LjL> well, that's what the schedule says
[12:53] <VanessaE> snook: after you install the package as BonBon showed, feel free to store the .deb wherever you like
[12:53] <pointwood> :)
[12:54] <VanessaE> (I use /data/Software as a semi-permanent archive)
[12:54] <snook353> ok, thanks.  i was gonna ask.  i remember to save it.  vanessae
[12:54] <intelikey> you dsl/cable/wireless guys have bandwidth   us dialupers have only bandnarrowness
[12:54] <VanessaE> heh...  compared to what I've heard others say about dsl...mine can be called bandnarrowth also :-/
[12:55] <Sanne> ja: modprobe means you're about to load a kernel module (driver). Are you sure you have the corresponding hardware?
[12:55] <VanessaE> (3 Mbps is beginning to look pretty slow compared to the 15 Mbps that's available here now)
[12:55] <intelikey> pointwood i do a dist-upgrade about two times a week...
[12:55] <pointwood> intelikey: well, I meant upgrading from dapper to eft :)
[12:56] <pointwood> are you doing that two times a week? :)
[12:56] <intelikey> yeah  but just remember 56k VanessaE and you will feel like your 3m fly's
[12:56] <VanessaE> oh I remember alright :)
[12:56] <VanessaE> I remember my 300 bps days a little too well..
[12:57] <pointwood> I'm still waiting for fiber :(
[12:57] <intelikey> pointwood no.    but i did coin the phrase.  reload twice a week whether you need to or not.... :)
[12:57] <pointwood> should get it before christmas though
[12:57] <pointwood> 10/10Mbit should be possible to live with for some time :)
[12:57] <BonBonTheJon> pointwood: what benefit is there to dist-upgrade compared to just upgrade
[12:58] <ja> Sanne: I'm not 100% sure, but my bios does have a CPU scaling option.
[12:58] <VanessaE> dist-upgrade occasionally picks up program updates that just 'update' misses
[12:58] <VanessaE> er
[12:58] <VanessaE> s/update/upgrade/
[12:59] <intelikey> BonBonTheJon venella upgrade doesn't update the system files  dist-upgrade does.
[01:00] <intelikey> i thought i saw a fowlduck
[01:01] <Sanne> ja: hmmm... well, firstly, I would make really sure those commands won't affect my system negatively, but maybe you did that already. As for the modprobe, if the module is not found, that means it isn't compiled and available for your kernel, or it is available but not installed by default.
[01:02] <snook353> stardict without gnome won't run in KDE :(  i Luv stardict :(
[01:02] <ja> Sanne: okay, thanks. Maybe I'll leave it. I'm just happy to have removed powernowd because my system was performing poorly with it.
[01:03] <Sanne> ja: ok, sorry I can't help more... I'm just a voice of caution, usually ;)
[01:04] <ja> Sanne: Well, it was helpful caution :) thank you.
[01:04] <Sanne> ja: heh, you're welcome
[01:09] <khirr> ello
[01:09] <khirr> what is the version of opera that i should use?
[01:09] <MotorCityMadMan> hello: ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the Macromedia Flash Player installer. is there a fix ?
[01:09] <khirr> kubuntu 6.06 AMD64
[01:10] <gnomefreak> kn9
[01:10] <gnomefreak> khirr: 9.xx
[01:10] <intelikey> hehhe on second thought i do have something against using the nvidia drivers....   namely the license !
[01:10] <khirr> but, i downloaded ubuntu version, but i cant install
[01:10] <gnomefreak> !opera
[01:10] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[01:10] <khirr> what's the way to install?
[01:10] <felixjet> can someone help me with the sound plz? dont works :(
[01:10] <gnomefreak> ^^^ khirr
[01:11] <intelikey> well looks like i wont use nvidia after all.
[01:11] <khirr> :'(
[01:11] <MotorCityMadMan> !flashplayer
[01:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:11] <khirr> :O
[01:11] <gnomefreak> khirr: its simple all you have to do is open add/remove and choose show commericial apps
[01:11] <intelikey> khirr   --display
[01:12] <gnomefreak> than pick it and install it
[01:12] <felixjet> i dont have sound but, on system config -> sound. when i click on the button to "test sound" i heard it. but i can heard anything from apps
[01:12] <khirr> i'm reading, thanks
[01:12] <gnomefreak> intelikey: good luck with 3d accel i even think intel drivers are non-free
[01:12] <intelikey> gnomefreak i don't do 3d anyway
[01:12] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[01:13] <intelikey> so it's not like i'll miss it.
[01:13] <intelikey> in face i seldom do X
[01:13] <intelikey> s/face/fact/
[01:13] <intelikey> face the fact    :)
[01:13] <gnomefreak> :)
[01:16] <Sanne> khirr: if you're on AMD64, you won't find Opera in the repositories. Proprietary software mostly isn't available yet for 64bit systems. But in this forum thread there's some help for getting 32bit programs installed on 64bit systems, including help for Opera: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191205
[01:17] <alain> anyone knows about artsd, it does not work for me
[01:17] <gnomefreak> Sanne: chroot will do it
[01:17] <alain> i get a cpu overload error
[01:17] <RobNYC_> Edgy is so nice
[01:17] <gnomefreak> its alot of work its easier to install 32bit :)
[01:17] <Sanne> gnomefreak: well, I managed to avoid a chroot so far for my 32bit apps.
[01:18] <gnomefreak> Sanne: good job ;)
[01:18] <gnomefreak> alain: dapper?
[01:18] <Sanne> gnomefreak: not really, I just followed instructions. The actual work was finding those instructions ;)
[01:18] <gnomefreak> ah
[01:18] <alain> gnomefreak no, edgy
[01:19] <alain> in dapper it worked
[01:19] <gnomefreak> alain: i think its a known issue im waiting on them to give me backtrace of arts
[01:19] <khirr> in opera web site, should i download ubuntu version or debian version?
[01:19] <gnomefreak> alain: you see it using amarok?
[01:19] <gnomefreak> khirr: ubuntu
[01:19] <alain> so you also have this issue?
[01:19] <khirr> thanks
[01:19] <gnomefreak> alain: nope :)
[01:20] <Sanne> khirr: did you read what I wrote?
[01:20] <khirr> yep
[01:20] <khirr> but...
[01:20] <gnomefreak> alain: i dont have issues if i do i fix them in a day or two :)
[01:20] <khirr> repository doesnt foond
[01:20] <khirr> found
[01:20] <gnomefreak> khirr: are you on 64bit
[01:20] <khirr> yep
[01:20] <gnomefreak> khirr: you cant install opera nomrally
[01:20] <gnomefreak> khirr: please read what users type to you
[01:22] <khirr> :O, i didnt see that
[01:22] <khirr> thanks Sanne
[01:22] <Sanne> khirr: I think, this thread details the problems and possible solutions, I think: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75940
[01:22] <khirr> i'll read now, thanks
[01:22] <alain> gnomefreak if i leave in the sound system settings the 'select audio device' to autodetect, my system stops responding shortly and then I get a cpu overload error, no audio works
[01:23] <Sanne> khirr: you're welcome, good luck :)
[01:23] <alain> if I manually select open sound system, everything works
[01:23] <gnomefreak> alain: hmmmmmmm
[01:23] <alain> appearently it can't correctly detect...
[01:24] <alain> as I said in 6.06 it worked, and in ubuntu it works too
[01:24] <alain> so I would say its a bug in artsd
[01:26] <intelikey> ah i see new updates for   cpio openssl python2.4
[01:27] <alain> gnomefreak known bug or shall I file one
[01:27] <gnomefreak> alain: file one with all the ifo you can
[01:27] <gnomefreak> info
[01:28] <intelikey> !bug
[01:28] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/
[01:28] <alain> ...can't find artsd package in the bugtracker... where do i put it?
[01:29] <gnomefreak> alain: i wanna say kdelibs but im not sure ont hat
[01:29] <gnomefreak> alain: you can pick i dont know ;)
[01:30] <alain> ok :)
[01:31] <khirr> OPERA RUNNNN
[01:31] <khirr> :D
[01:32] <Sanne> khirr: did you pick the static deb? (I just read through the thread and the opera download options)
[01:32] <khirr> :)
[01:33] <khirr> now, is time to change opera to spanish version :D
[01:33] <Sanne> khirr: I take that as a yes ;) So I know what to do if I should need Opera one day, thanks.
[01:33] <khirr> i've puted this line
[01:33] <khirr> sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture packagename_i386.deb
[01:34] <Sanne> khirr: ah, I see, thanks, same as I did with wine.
[01:34] <felixjet> why i cant dl alsa? apt-get autogets alsa-base instead of alsa
[01:35] <Sanne> felixjet: there's no package called 'alsa', I think
[01:36] <khirr> i've seen lots screenshots, and i liked so mucho icons, where can i find icons as them?
[01:36] <khirr> and other question should be, how run exe files on Kubuntu :D
[01:36] <Sanne> khirr: you mean icons for KDE?
[01:37] <khirr> yep
[01:37] <Sanne> felixjet: to see all packages beginning with alsa, type: apt-cache search alsa | grep ^alsa
[01:37] <Sanne> khirr: you can search in the repositories (dunno if there are some), and also look on kde-look.org
[01:38] <khirr> i'll check the page
[01:38] <khirr> with my opera browser :D
[01:38] <Sanne> :)
[01:39] <Sanne> khirr: oh, there are some kde icon packages in universe
[01:39] <Sanne> khirr: look: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=kde-icons&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all
[01:39] <khirr> i'm cheking
[01:39] <khirr> :D
[01:40] <Sanne> :)
[01:41] <khirr> where can i see my kde version?
[01:41] <Sanne> khirr: usually in every kde program, under help/about kde
[01:41] <khirr> okp
[01:44] <khirr> uhmm
[01:44] <khirr> other question
[01:44] <khirr> :D
[01:44] <khirr> how can i run exe files on kubuntu?
[01:44] <BonBonTheJon> khirr: do you mean windows exe files?
[01:44] <Sanne> khirr: you mean as in windows exe files?
[01:45] <Sanne> BonBonTheJon: lol
[01:45] <BonBonTheJon> Sanne: great minds think alike
[01:45] <Sanne> BonBonTheJon: exactly ;)
[01:45] <khirr> yes
[01:45] <khirr> i went to the bathroom :D
[01:45] <khirr> yep
[01:46] <khirr> run windows exe files
[01:46] <Solveneq> so my OpenOffice.org decided to die... what do I do?
[01:46] <BonBonTheJon> khirr: you either need to set up wine, or set up a virtual machine
[01:46] <alain> you need wine
[01:46] <BonBonTheJon> khirr:
[01:46] <BonBonTheJon> khirr: what are you trying to run
[01:46] <khirr> Macromedia Flash
[01:46] <khirr> i wanna programin here, but forget Linux
[01:47] <alain> use the linux version
[01:47] <khirr> maybe winamp
[01:47] <khirr> but, always there are ptograms.exe that i'd like run
[01:47] <khirr> can i do it?
[01:47] <Sanne> khirr: wine is also not available for amd64. You need to download the i386 deb manually and install it with --force-architecture also. It's in the first forum thread I mentioned.
[01:47] <n8k99> khirr: under wine
[01:48] <khirr> but, with that, can i run exes?
[01:48] <Sanne> khirr: yes, wine is a compatibility layer between linux and the windows api. Some programs work. I heard that Macromedia Flash works ok.
[01:49] <BonBonTheJon> !wine
[01:49] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:49] <khirr> i'll check
[01:49] <khirr> :D
[01:49] <alain> how do I copy from KInfocenter
[01:49] <Sanne> khirr: also here, I did the manual install: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WineForAMD64
[01:49] <m4x1mum> ooh so you can install software even if the architecture is different
[01:50] <khirr> nice! , for AMD64 :D
[01:50] <m4x1mum> im thinking of reinstalling linux with amd64 version
[01:50] <khirr> run good this Linux Version
[01:50] <khirr> y think, better that SuSe
[01:50] <khirr> ;)
[01:51] <m4x1mum> is the performance really different between amd64 and i386 versions?
[01:51] <Hawkwind> m4x1mum: 64Bit OS's still have some issues.  It's best to stick with 32Bit a while longer
[01:52] <Hawkwind> m4x1mum: You really don't get the full effect out of a 64Bit system unless you utilize 4GB or more of RAM and do heavy calculations and compiling and stuff like that
[01:52] <m4x1mum> ooh ok
[01:52] <billytwowilly> the only issues I've found with 64 bit is that the proprietary vendors are jerks and aren't releasing stuff for that architecture.. ie flash.
[01:53] <Hawkwind> No flash for 64bit, though no newer flash than version 7 for Linux anyways until after the first of the year when they release version 9 for Linux
[01:53] <flavioribeiro> the best thing to do is install 32bits
[01:53] <flavioribeiro> :T
[01:53] <m4x1mum> i thought amd64 version is stilll 32bit OS but compiled especially for amd64 processor, like optimize the compilation
[01:53] <billytwowilly> no. it's 64 bit...
[01:54] <KrAmMeR> has anyone install pysoulseek on their machine?
[01:55] <m4x1mum> oooww that sucks
[01:56] <Sanne> m4x1mum: If you don't mind some tinkering, install 64bit, because the more people run it, the sooner support will be better. If you want it to work out of the box mostly, you might get annoyed by 64bit, though.
[01:56] <m4x1mum> ooooh no i dont want to tinker stuff, im a newbie with linux, this is the 5th day for me to use linux :)
[01:57] <Sanne> m4x1mum: oh! Then I recommend staying a little while with 32bit, and consider switching when you are more comfortable.
[01:58] <Sanne> m4x1mum: and welcome to Linux :)
[01:58] <m4x1mum> hehe thanks!
[01:59] <m4x1mum> im still configuring my system to be as good as my windows, i havent been able to share the files with windows network yet, although the windows pc can see my shared folder but cannot access it :(
[02:00] <m4x1mum> and the configuration is very annoying!! i always need to resize to see the administrator mode button
[02:00] <BonBonTheJon> m4x1mum: you need to do something like this http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/manual4/sambausers.html
[02:01] <khirr> how can install one.deb
[02:01] <khirr> what is the command?
[02:01] <BonBonTheJon> khirr: dpkg -i package
[02:01] <khirr> thanks
[02:01] <Hawkwind> khirr: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[02:02] <m4x1mum> is it possible to let them access without having to login?, i mean i just want to share within the network only not outside the network
[02:02] <khirr> installing :D
[02:03] <BonBonTheJon> m4x1mum: its good to have some security
[02:03] <BonBonTheJon> m4x1mum: but look at http://samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/install.html
[02:05] <Sanne> m4x1mum: there's also a section on samba under Kmenu/Help/Ubuntu Server Guide.
[02:05] <BonBonTheJon> !swat
[02:05] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:07] <khirr> i'm trying run wine
[02:07] <khirr> but i cant open
[02:08] <m4x1mum> oooh i want wineX :( but you have to pay
[02:08] <khirr> how could i open one program?
[02:08] <BonBonTheJon> khirr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[02:08] <khirr> ty
[02:09] <BonBonTheJon> khirr: wine programname.exe
[02:09] <Hawkwind> khirr: There is also #WineHQ here on Freenode where the guys hang out that know wine very well
[02:10] <khirr> tanks
[02:11] <yonkeltron> will firefox2 be in edgy?
[02:11] <LjL> guess so, since the beta is in there
[02:11] <LjL> !edgy
[02:11] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:12] <yonkeltron> !schedule
[02:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[02:12] <yonkeltron> got that
[02:12] <yonkeltron> LjL: neat
[02:12] <hazard_> *test*
[02:12] <LjL> we read you
[02:12] <hazard_> Is there a livecd for kubuntu? One that isn't 688mb?
[02:13] <hazard_> Thanks LjL!
[02:13] <LjL> uhm no, the Desktop CD is the only Live CD there is afaik
[02:13] <hazard_> ...nuts.
[02:13] <nick01> hi Hawkwind :)
[02:13] <LjL> what's the problem? i think most CDs today can take 688megs...
[02:14] <hazard_> Not ones which hold 650.
[02:14] <LjL> didn't even think they sold those anymore... you could still try overburning though i suppose
[02:14] <hazard_> Which for some silly reason...I have far far far to many of.
[02:14] <yonkeltron> hazard_: interesting
[02:14] <khirr> i've read that wine resulte
[02:14] <khirr> but say that couldnt create register
[02:14] <VanessaE> most 80 min. CD's will take roughly 702 MB (about 736 million bytes) actually...
[02:14] <yonkeltron> hazard_: write the iso to an HDD
[02:15] <nick01> Hawkwind: I just installed mandriva 2007 yesterday and I searched for easy urpmi- found your webpage saying u defected to kubuntu - why did u do that ?
[02:15] <khirr> insufficient resources for operation
[02:15] <Search4Lancer> okay.... I'm having trouble copying files into a folder on an external hard drive... any ideas?
[02:15] <LjL> hazard_: yeah, save to HD and install through VMWare or something, perhaps
[02:15] <hazard_> So the installer CD is the same as the livecd right?
[02:15] <LjL> hazard_: yeah, though there's also another "Alternate" CD which only contains a (text-mode) installer and is not "live". that might be smaller
[02:15] <yonkeltron> Search4Lancer: trouble?
[02:15] <VanessaE> however, if you want to burn a 'smaller' disc, it's probably not hard...  just delete some excess packages from within the ISO file until the size is what you can deal with.
[02:15] <hazard_> I don't think it is.
[02:16] <khirr> ello
[02:16] <khirr> insufficient resources for operation say wine when i wanna execute
[02:16] <hazard_> I think that's what I'll try, of course, knowing me, it won't be bootable anymore.
[02:16] <hazard_> Oh well, I'll figure it out.
[02:16] <khirr> one program.exe, and say that cant create register
[02:16] <Search4Lancer> yonkeltron: yes... keeps telling me I don't have permission to, yet every time I check, the permissions are set so that the owner (same username I'm logged in as) has permission to read and write
[02:16] <Hawkwind> nick01: The addmedia pages are back up as of today in fact
[02:16] <Hawkwind> nick01: But yes, I don't run Mandriva anymore, except in a vmware install only
[02:17] <LjL> VanessaE: well, not necessarily *that* easy, since most of the .debs aren't actually to be found as plain .debs on the CD
[02:17] <VanessaE> they're not?
[02:17] <VanessaE> oh. :)
[02:17] <Search4Lancer> ah, it's decided to work now...
[02:17] <khirr> say
[02:18] <hazard_> what?
[02:18] <khirr> Make sure that your X server is runing
[02:18] <LjL> VanessaE: no, most of the stuff is in a squashfs file i think...
[02:18] <khirr> what is the X server?
[02:18] <VanessaE> ohhh
[02:18] <snook353> YeeHaw!  configin dict
[02:18] <hazard_> A hole of death and dispair (or the system to display the GUI)
[02:18] <VanessaE> well hell. :)
[02:18] <yonkeltron> Search4Lancer: pop open a terminal and tell me when ready
[02:18] <nick01> Hawkwind: so mandriva disapointed u in some way
[02:18] <nick01> |?
[02:19] <khirr> plz T_T
[02:19] <VanessaE> I seem to recall that it's possible to modify the /etc/apt/sources.list after you boot the CD, point it to an online repository or three, and then set up networking/internet access
[02:19] <Hawkwind> nick01: Absolutely.  But that's pretty offtopic here.  You could join my #LFD channel if you want to discuss it further
[02:19] <Search4Lancer> yonkeltron: it's decided to work now.... however, I'm about to restart the HD because it's still caught up in something imaginary (it's playing with itself) making file transfers slow as balls
[02:19] <VanessaE> could that squashfs bit be deleted entirely?
[02:19] <khirr> ello?
[02:20] <khirr> what is X server on wine?
[02:20] <LjL> VanessaE: i really don't think so... however, perhaps the Server CD could be a better bet
[02:20] <VanessaE> khirr: the "x server" is not a part of Wine.  it's a part of your base OS
[02:20] <hazard_> Yea, you could do that.
[02:20] <hazard_> I think.
[02:20] <LjL> VanessaE: i guess it's smaller than the Desktop or Alternate CD
[02:20] <hazard_> Server CD?
[02:20] <VanessaE> it's what we call xorg (formerly xfree86)
[02:20] <LjL> hazard_: yeah, ubuntu has a server version
[02:20] <khirr> so, how can run one exe file...is show that error
[02:20] <VanessaE> that's a good point, LjL
[02:20] <VanessaE> forgot about the server CD
[02:21] <hazard_> Ah, well, I usually use One of the debian base CDs, since I don't typically need a user interface.
[02:21] <hazard_> (horay for 40MB installer CDs!)
[02:21] <LjL> hazard_: the server cd would be sort of similar
[02:21] <VanessaE> khirr: can you post a complete copy of the errors you are getting onto pastebin?
[02:21] <VanessaE> (from one shell prompt to the next)
[02:21] <LjL> hazard_: yeah, i wouldn't mind Ubuntu having something akin to Debian's businesscard CD
[02:21] <khirr> where?
[02:22] <Search4Lancer> alright yonkeltron it's doing it again... fire away
[02:23] <LjL> hazard_: they say you can even upgrade from debian to ubuntu. if you're brave.
[02:23] <yonkeltron> Search4Lancer: chmod -R 777 /path/to/mounted/device
[02:23] <VanessaE> !pastebin
[02:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:23] <yonkeltron> LjL: you need to be very brave. very brave
[02:23] <VanessaE> khirr: use that ^^^^
[02:23] <hazard_> Or crazy.
[02:23] <hazard_> I'm plenty crazy.
[02:23] <LjL> guess so
[02:23] <yonkeltron> sure are
[02:23] <LjL> hazard_: anyway, really, what i'd try first would be the server CD
[02:23] <LjL> (or just buy a stupid 800mb CD :P)
[02:24] <hazard_> I'll see what the big cd's got on it, now that its almost done downloading.
[02:24] <LjL> well actually, if you don't mind wasting CDs, i'd try overburning one of your 650MB CDs first... you never know
[02:24] <Search4Lancer> yonkeltron: and this is gonna take what, 4 or 5 hours to finish?
[02:24] <hazard_> They're old RWs...
[02:24] <hazard_> which is why there's so many...
[02:25] <hazard_> since they don't really get 'used'
[02:25] <LjL> hm, then nevermind overburning i suppose
[02:26] <yonkeltron> Search4Lancer: no. should be nearly instant
[02:26] <Search4Lancer> and now it's stalled...
[02:26] <yonkeltron> Search4Lancer: stop the transfer while this is happening
[02:26] <Search4Lancer> yeah well it was going through changing the perms on every bloody file on the drive
[02:27] <Search4Lancer> and how am I supposed to do that?
[02:27] <yonkeltron> Search4Lancer: it's just changing the permissions! not checksumming each and every byte
[02:27] <yonkeltron> Search4Lancer: hit cancel or ctrl-c the process
[02:27] <yonkeltron> how are you transferring the files?
[02:28] <Search4Lancer> drag n drop, but I'm not transferring right now, and I don't know where you're getting a cancel button in a terminal window :-P
[02:29] <yonkeltron> Search4Lancer: nvm. then. i thought you had a running transfer with konqueror.
[02:29] <khirr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26121/
[02:29] <yonkeltron> Search4Lancer: i've chmod -R'd 56gb of data over a network and it didn't take more than 1.5 minutes
[02:30] <khirr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26121/
[02:30] <Search4Lancer> well in any case... I just tried chmodding the individual directory on the drive that I'm trying to transfer the files into, and it did do it quick, but it still isn't letting me move the files
[02:30] <darkghost> finaly i can play some video from 3 dayes just need to play real media on kaffeine ? how to do that ?
[02:31] <khirr> my wine error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26121/
[02:31] <yonkeltron> Search4Lancer: hmmmm
[02:31] <yonkeltron> Search4Lancer: what is the exact error?
[02:32] <khirr> plz (:(
[02:33] <VanessaE> ahh
[02:33] <VanessaE> stop running wine as root.
[02:33] <Search4Lancer> well before it was telling me down in the status bar "you can not drag files to a directory you don't have permissions in" or whatever, and now I'm trying it again and it doesn't do that but gives me a status box saying "could not write to /media/sdf1/elmusico/whatever.mp3"
[02:34] <VanessaE> never run programs as root unless you're doing some kind of admin work
[02:34] <snook353> anyone have any experience config
[02:34] <snook353> 'ing kdict?
[02:35] <yonkeltron> Search4Lancer: manging your music collection?
[02:35] <yonkeltron> i find that it's better to use rsync to keep your collection up to date
[02:35] <darkghost> what codec do i need to install so i can run real media on kaffeine
[02:35] <darkghost> what codec do i need to install so i can run real media on kaffeine ??
[02:36] <Search4Lancer> moving what music I had on my USB key to my external HD where the rest of it is... moved off the key onto a temp folder on the desktop, and now trying to move from there to extHD
[02:36] <yonkeltron> wierd
[02:36] <Search4Lancer> "you cannot drop any items into a directory in which you do not have write permission".... I do have write permission!
[02:37] <yonkeltron> hmmm
[02:37] <Search4Lancer> it says right there in the properties for the folder.... 'owner can view & modify content'
[02:37] <yonkeltron> try remounting the drive
[02:37] <yonkeltron> or transfer them not by drag and drop
[02:38] <khirr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26121/
[02:38] <VanessaE> khirr: stop running wine as root
[02:38] <VanessaE> khirr:  never run programs as root unless you're doing some kind of admin work
[02:38] <khirr> uhmm
[02:38] <VanessaE> that's why you get that error - root can't access your screen without special permission
[02:38] <khirr> ok, i'll live
[02:38] <Search4Lancer> remounting did the trick
[02:39] <yonkeltron> excellent
[02:39] <yonkeltron> Search4Lancer: i figure maybe hotplug just didn't do something correctly
[02:40] <khirr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26122/
[02:40] <khirr> VanessaE this is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26122/
[02:41] <VanessaE> ok that error I can't help with, except that you can ignore everything below line 7 (those last errors are caused by the initial 'resources' problem)
[02:42] <khirr> but
[02:42] <khirr> how can i solution that?
[02:46] <VanessaE> you running the 64 bit version?
[02:46] <VanessaE> (of kubuntu)
[02:47] <khirr>  yes
[02:47] <VanessaE> ok
[02:47] <khirr> I'm runing under Kubuntu 6.06 AMD64
[02:47] <VanessaE> that might be why, not sure win works in 64 bit
[02:47] <VanessaE> er, wine
[02:47] <khirr> (:(
[02:47] <khirr> omg
[02:48] <khirr> i've lots problem with AMD64
[02:48] <VanessaE> I have an AMD64 system also, but I stick to 32 bit because of probs like this
[02:48] <khirr> should i intall 32bits version?
[02:48] <VanessaE> yeah, stick to 32bit.
[02:48] <khirr> it fastest 32 bits version than 64 bits version?
[02:49] <Hawkwind> You're better off going with 32bit
[02:49] <Hawkwind> 64Bit still has some issues that probably won't be worked out for another year or so
[02:50] <VanessaE> AMD64 can be somewhat faster than 32bit, but like hawk said, AMD64 has issues yet.
[02:50] <khirr> i think, so i'll have to download 32 bits version
[02:51] <hansen> Hi. I'm missing "kinternet" on kubuntu. Is there a package available somewhere or maybe an alternative app that does the same? (I use it for wlan setup)
[02:52] <orient2000> what does kiternet does?
[02:52] <hansen> it allows you to: click tray icon, scan for wlan networks, choose network, type in passphrase => connected
[02:53] <hansen> I know I can do it thru the system settings, but that requires root access and more manual setup. I installed kubuntu on my wife's laptop, so it needs to be pretty easy :-)
[02:54] <orient2000> did you check adept?
[02:54] <hansen> yes, I searched for kinternet with adept, no results
[02:54] <VanessaE> maybe it was renamed?
[02:54] <hansen> I doubt it
[02:55] <orient2000> you have to check deskriptions the name of a program will be different
[02:56] <VanessaE> I see a reference here to something called Qinternet
[02:56] <VanessaE> would that work?
[02:56] <hansen> I'm totally new with (k)ubuntu (but have used suse for years and linux in general since 1994 or so), so I wondered how to get something like kinternet on kubuntu
[02:56] <hansen> hmm
[02:56] <hansen> never heard about
[02:56] <orient2000> check http://kde-apps.org you have it all there.
[02:56] <hansen> I'll check
[02:56] <BonBonTheJon> hansen: try looking into knetworkmanager
[02:58] <JacksLivr> evening all
[02:58] <JacksLivr> i am wanting to compile a kernel module. do i need the kernel-source or kernel-tree?
[02:59] <VanessaE> looks like that's a better idea (knetworkmanager)
[03:00] <hansen> BonBonTheJon: Thanks! I installed the knetworkmanager package and now there is a "wireless assistant" entry in the menu that does exactly what I want.
[03:00] <VanessaE> sigh
[03:00] <BonBonTheJon> VanessaE: we can share the credit
[03:01] <VanessaE> heh
[03:02] <hansen> VanessaE: qinternet would probably work too -- but it looks like a suse/novell invention. I want something that works on kubuntu out of the box, I'm getting to old and lazy to fiddle with such things :)
[03:03] <VanessaE> heh
[03:03] <VanessaE> I know the feeling
[03:03] <orient2000> I hope everyone knows this link http://kde-apps.org
[03:03] <warpzone> what are the kde-apps, random kde improvements?
[03:03] <VanessaE> I started my linux days with slackware (somewhere in the upper 6.x range I think)....now I want it to Just Work (tm) :)
[03:04] <larson9999> here's a silly question seems like i should be able to figure out: where's the wine config file these days?  i can't find one
[03:04] <BonBonTheJon> warpzone: there are tons of programs on kde-apps, some of which you can download with apt-get
[03:04] <VanessaE> larson: it's stored as a couple of .ini files within the "c drive" you assigned it to
[03:04] <VanessaE> or something like that
[03:05] <VanessaE> and you apparently decide where the C drive is by fiddling with symlinks in .wine/dosdevices/
[03:05] <larson9999> VanessaE, really? when did they change that?
[03:05] <Dark_Vampire> hi ppl
[03:06] <warpzone> BonBonTheJon: neat
[03:06] <VanessaE> Not sure when, but it sure confused me when I started fiddling with it on my husband's box yesterday
[03:06] <VanessaE> (trying to get M$ Pinball Arcade to run)
[03:06] <Dark_Vampire> any germans here?
[03:06] <arepie> how to share a file with windows network?? i've tried "system settings -> network & connectivity -> sharing" but when i enter admin password, it still block me to make changes.. any solution?
[03:06] <LjL> !de
[03:07] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:07] <VanessaE> (btw, I got it to run but I can't figure out what video mode it wants to run in, so all I can do is look at the main menu and exit out)
[03:07] <Dark_Vampire> thanks LjL
[03:07] <VanessaE> well, I'm of German descent, but that doesn't count... nein sprechense Deutsche :)
[03:08] <orient2000> no much support in german section. They di suse in Germany.
[03:08] <larson9999> VanessaE, must be .reg files as that's all that on the C drive
[03:08] <VanessaE> larson: *nod* that's another source of config data
[03:09] <VanessaE> I wonder then, when it creates the other files
[03:09] <VanessaE> probably when you actually "install" something
[03:11] <BonBonTheJon> arepie: in konqueror, right click on the folder you want to share, and there is a menu option to share
[03:12] <arepie> BonBonTheJon: thank you
[03:12] <BonBonTheJon> arepie: did that work?
[03:13] <larson9999> VanessaE, aha.  i'm trying to get the incredible machine to run for my son.  had it earlier with all but the dialog where you change the user name working great.  but now sound isn't working so i figured i'd check out the config file but they got rid of it on me
[03:13] <VanessaE> heh
[03:13] <VanessaE> did you try running winecfg?
[03:13] <BonBonTheJon> larson9999: doesn't that game work in dos?
[03:13] <VanessaE> they moved everything around
[03:14] <VanessaE> there's settings there for sound.
[03:14] <arepie> BonBonTheJon: didn't try it yet..
[03:14] <larson9999> BonBonTheJon, this version is for xp.
[03:15] <BonBonTheJon> larson9999: I had a really old version that was for dos, and I guess it could work with dosbox
[03:15] <BonBonTheJon> !dosbox
[03:15] <ubotu> dosbox: A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA graphics, sound and DOS. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.63-2.1 (dapper), package size 371 kB, installed size 1028 kB
[03:16] <larson9999> VanessaE, yeah earlier i had to enable it and it worked fine.  the thing is that was on my machine to test.  so i'm setting up wine on my son's machine and am having the problem.
[03:16] <Dark_Vampire> well I'll try it her in english...  no answer in the german channel...  well i downloaded firefox(for linux) and opend the archive, on the site stands that i should run "firefox" in that...  there is a shell script named "firefox" and a "firefox-bin" in it... but nothing happens if i try to run it
[03:16] <arepie> BonBonTheJon: no, it didn't work
[03:16] <Dark_Vampire> have i to be logged in as root?
[03:17] <VanessaE> ah
[03:17] <larson9999> BonBonTheJon, yeah, i'm well aware of dosbox and dosemu.  been using both for what seems like decades.  but the version is better from a user standpoint anyway.  means a lot since i'm talking about my 5 year old.
[03:18] <BonBonTheJon> arepie: in control panel is there a samba option
[03:19] <larson9999> BonBonTheJon, by the way, if you want to use dosbox don't use the version ubotu suggests.  .65 is soooooo much better
[03:20] <Dark_Vampire> by the way: how may i connect to 2 servers at same time in konversation?
[03:20] <arepie> BonBonTheJon: btw, im using edgy
[03:20] <arepie> there's no control panel here
[03:20] <arepie> system settings perhaps
[03:20] <BonBonTheJon> arepie: ok
[03:21] <arepie> !share
[03:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about share - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:22] <arepie> !sharing
[03:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sharing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:22] <hades_> Can someone point me to the FAQ on Grub that helps you restore it once Windows is installed?
[03:22] <BonBonTheJon> !samba
[03:22] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:22] <hades_> !grub
[03:22] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:22] <BonBonTheJon> arepie: yeah, try installing swat
[03:22] <arepie> swat? from adept?
[03:23] <BonBonTheJon> arepie: yeah, its a web front end to samba, so it might help you out
[03:23] <VanessaE> Swat is Your Friend (tm) :)
[03:24] <arepie> ok, im installing
[03:27] <marvin__> kubunto es
[03:28] <marvin__> como chateo en esp
[03:29] <VanessaE> !es
[03:29] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:32] <marvin__> tengo problemas para instalar dku-5
[03:32] <marvin__> en linux que hago
[03:33] <hansen> parse error...
[03:33] <VanessaE> (babelfish translation)   usted tiene que ensamblar uno de los canales antedichos para el espaol
[03:34] <marvin__> como hago
[03:34] <VanessaE> (babelfish translation)   hablamos solamente ingls aqu.
[03:36] <Hawkwind> !es
[03:36] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:36] <Hawkwind> Those speaking spanish should join #Ubuntu-ES
[03:36] <VanessaE> oy...trying to translate that back with babelfish results in some weird phrases :)
[03:36] <VanessaE> just trying to help the guy find his way there, hawk :)
[03:37] <Hawkwind> VanessaE: I know.  I thought maybe if it was said in plain english he might understand :P
[03:37] <VanessaE> oh ok :)
[03:37] <VanessaE> sorry, getting a little tired here... what should be obvious is hardly so.
[03:38] <rance> hey guys, I need a little help understanding adding printers to cups on a kubuntu/ubuntu server, the user/password admin bit never seems to work
[03:39] <bimberi> ubotu tell rance about cupsweb
[03:39] <JacksLivr> im trying to get the kernel source to compile a module. my uname says that I have 2.6.15-27-686, but my apt cache only has 2.4.27. kernel.org does not have that one to download.... HELP!?
[03:39] <VanessaE> eek
[03:39] <VanessaE> that can't be right
[03:40] <Hawkwind> JacksLivr: apt-cache search linux-headers
[03:40] <VanessaE> look for linux-image
[03:40] <VanessaE> (and -headers)
[03:41] <JacksLivr> is headers all i need?
[03:41] <VanessaE> That reminds me...since I roll my own anyway, can I just uninstall all these past kernel images?
[03:41] <Hawkwind> JacksLivr: Should be
[03:41] <bimberi> JacksLivr: 'apt-cache search linux-source' although yes you should only need headers
[03:41] <Hawkwind> VanessaE: I'd leave at least 2 kernels installed at all times.  That way if something happens to the one you use all the time, you can boot to an older kernel
[03:41] <VanessaE> right
[03:42] <VanessaE> already have two such of my own.  Just wanted to get rid of the other 6 :)
[03:42] <Hawkwind> VanessaE: I hear ya.  I'm running 2.6.18 and have an older 2.6.17 installed just incase
[03:43] <VanessaE> ACK!
[03:43] <arepie> BonBonTheJon: after install swat, i can configure the sharing file from the system setting.. thanks..
[03:45] <VanessaE> ok, note to self...  the few megs of wasted space is not worth the effort to rip out the kernel out from under 50 other things that are marked as depends-on :)
[03:48] <JacksLivr> Error: Kernel source code is incomplete - drivers/md/dm.h not found.
[03:48] <JacksLivr> i must need more than just the headers
[03:51] <xwolf-> how do i set the DNS server i'll use?
[03:51] <VanessaE> edit /etc/resolv.conf
[03:52] <xwolf-> right. thank you.
[03:52] <VanessaE> generally add a line like "nameserver  a.b.c.d"
[03:52] <VanessaE> (e.g. nameserver 4.2.2.4 in the case of verizon)
[03:55] <JacksLivr> Error: Kernel source code is incomplete - drivers/md/dm.h not found.
[03:55] <JacksLivr> i must need more than just the headers
[03:55] <JacksLivr> what else do i need?
[03:55] <JacksLivr> im trying to get the kernel source to compile a module. my uname says that I have 2.6.15-27-686, but my apt cache only has 2.4.27. kernel.org does not have that one to download
[03:55] <Hawkwind> JacksLivr: Did you try linux-source ?
[03:55] <JacksLivr> its the wrong version
[03:55] <JacksLivr> if i try that it wants to install 2.4
[03:55] <JacksLivr> not 2.6
[03:56] <Hawkwind> linux-source-2.6.15 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.15 with Ubuntu patches
[03:56] <Hawkwind> JacksLivr: You must not have all the repos setup then
[03:56] <VanessaE> better you should roll your own (btw in my screen it shows 2.6.15 as being the only kernel-source pkg)
[03:56] <VanessaE> er, linux-source package.
[03:56] <Hawkwind> !info linux-source-2.6.15
[03:56] <ubotu> linux-source-2.6.15: Linux kernel source for version 2.6.15 with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15-27.48 (dapper), package size 43670 kB, installed size 43812 kB
[03:56] <JacksLivr> i uncommented all the lines for the repos
[03:57] <Hawkwind> JacksLivr: sudo apt-get update
[03:57] <JacksLivr> i did
[03:57] <Hawkwind> JacksLivr: Paste your sources.list to http://pastebin.ulteo.us for us to see
[03:57] <JacksLivr> k
[03:57] <JacksLivr> hang on
[03:57] <JacksLivr> thanks for helping
[03:58] <Hawkwind> Tis what we're here for :)
[04:00] <JacksLivr> http://pastebin.ulteo.us/152
[04:01] <Hawkwind> JacksLivr: Try changing every instance of us.archive.ubuntu.com to just archive.ubuntu.com and then do a sudo apt-get update again and then find the package
[04:02] <JacksLivr> k, doing now
[04:04] <VanessaE> hm...just got reminded to check my server for open ports, etc.  any idea what ports 820 and 875 are for?
[04:06] <darrellmarlow> when you are in the terminal and reading a man page; how do you get back to terminal?
[04:06] <VanessaE> usually q
[04:07] <darrellmarlow> cool thx
[04:09] <Dsbeerf> Hi, any special rep for kubuntu i found nothing for vlc and for xchat with apt-get
[04:09] <Hawkwind> Dsbeerf: Enable universe and multiverse
[04:10] <JacksLivr> http://pastebin.ulteo.us/153
[04:10] <Dsbeerf> how ? im kinda new on kubuntu i was a ubuntu user
[04:10] <JacksLivr> Hawkwind: i did what you suggested
[04:10] <Hawkwind> !repos > Dsbeerf
[04:10] <Dsbeerf> Thanks
[04:10] <Hawkwind> JacksLivr: Now install it.  It's listed there in that paste
[04:11] <Hawkwind> JacksLivr: sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15
[04:11] <waspius> anyone know how i can add smileys to kopete?
[04:11] <JacksLivr> so the us was throwing it off
[04:11] <waspius> the ones they send me?
[04:13] <waspius> hello anyone know how i can add the smileys they send me on kopete?
[04:14] <canen> waspius: in configure
[04:14] <Hawkwind> waspius: Please don't repeat yourself.  Patience and someone will help you when they know
[04:14] <canen> one sec i'll tell u where
[04:14] <waspius> Hawkwind: it was a mistake i went to ask it in another channel
[04:14] <VanessaE> ok here's one....where exactly do I configure portmap/nfsd to only listen to one specific interface?
[04:15] <matrix> hi, can i find recommendation which wlan pcmcia card to buy to work smoth with ubuntu?
[04:16] <canen> crap, i can't find it
[04:17] <MichaleR> CDC843
[04:18] <MichaleR> No wait, that wlan card ID is wrong
[04:18] <canen> waspius: it's in the protocol settings
[04:18] <canen> click on modify for the account
[04:19] <canen> in msn any way "MSN settings"
[04:20] <waspius> canen: ok thanx
[04:20] <MichaleR> wlan card:  CNET CWC-854  IDs as ra0 interface
[04:21] <MichaleR> good solid card, support right out of the box, available for ~$30USD
[04:21] <MichaleR> There are others, but that one is my current choice
[04:25] <flaccid> in firefox homepage:
[04:25] <flaccid> file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html
[04:25] <flaccid> why are the links to 'the difference' , 'longterm support' etc. not installed?
[04:25] <flaccid> which package has them
[04:25] <matrix> MichaleR: interesting never heard of this brand
[04:26] <matrix> is there a hardware listing for well supported wlan cards
[04:26] <ironfroggy> how do you properly dispose of a laptop battery?
[04:26] <matrix> so i can judge when i am in store tomorrow if one of the available cards is working
[04:26] <matrix> best would of course be if it even supports suspend
[04:27] <SperMite> what was it to print glxgears info?
[04:30] <VanessaE> -printfps perhaps?
[04:31] <SperMite> yeah thats it
[04:31] <SperMite> thank you
[04:31] <VanessaE> *nod*
[04:32] <VanessaE> that bugs me...I mean, I know it's not a valid benchmark, but it can at least tell you if GLX is working right
[04:32] <VanessaE> they should have left that option on by default.
[04:34] <bimberi> the option to switch it on used to be -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark   ! :)
[04:34] <waspius> does anyone know if xgl is supported by kubuntu and if it will run ok on a laptop at 2.8
[04:35] <VanessaE> *nod*
[04:35] <VanessaE> well, bbl, gotta go pick up hubby.
[04:35] <MichaleR> matrix: yes, I'm looking for the link
[04:35] <flaccid_> waspius: yes
[04:36] <flaccid_> how can i make gtk applications look more cleaner/like qt?
[04:37] <waspius> flaccid: will i find it with apt-get or do i need to download it from elsewhere?
[04:37] <flaccid_> !xgl > waspius
[04:37] <waspius> thanx
[04:38] <flaccid_> it can be a pain
[04:38] <flaccid_> its still experimental and not all that smooth
[04:38] <flaccid_> see how you go
[04:38] <flaccid_> use the #ubuntu-xgl channel
[04:38] <orient2000> did you guys get any updates in a last 24 hours?
[04:38] <orient2000> kubuntu
[04:38] <flaccid_> i didn't
[04:39] <flaccid_> don't think
[04:39] <flaccid_> maybe. i think there was in the last 48
[04:39] <orient2000> but not in last 24 hrs?
[04:40] <flaccid_> i can't confirm 100%
[04:41] <orient2000> ou will need to go download one of the
[04:41] <orient2000> archives:
[04:41] <orient2000>     j2sdk-1_4_2-doc.zip j2sdk-1_4_0-doc-ja.zip j2sdk-1_4_2-doc-ja.zip
[04:42] <orient2000> I am trying to get some doc file on jave and it get stoped on java.zip I can not run update because of it.
[04:42] <flaccid_> youtube for $1.6 bil by google
[04:42] <flaccid_> not bad
[04:43] <pacman> anyone have any experience with torcs
[04:43] <orient2000> it is not very user friendly.
[04:45] <cpk2> isnt torcs that car racing game?
[04:45] <pacman> yeah
[04:46] <pacman> it's telling me that it can't find libXrandr
[04:46] <flaccid_> gosh google 429 on nasdaq heh
[04:46] <pacman> but I have the newest versions of libxrandr2 and libxrandr-dev
[04:51] <pacman> hello?
[04:52] <flaccid_> hi
[04:53] <pacman> hey flaccid, weren't you the one who was helping me last night
[04:53] <flaccid> probably
[04:53] <pacman> I'm having a problem with torcs
[04:54] <flaccid> i can see
[04:54] <pacman> any suggestions?
[04:54] <flaccid> what package of torcs is installed
[04:54] <cpk2> i take it you used apt-get?
[04:54] <pacman> 1.2.4
[04:55] <pacman> I did apt-get last night, and all the game was was 4 wheels
[04:55] <pacman> no cars, no track, just 4 wheels and the background
[04:55] <pacman> oh, and brake lights
[04:55] <flaccid> please pastebin output from dpkg -l | grep -i torcs
[04:56] <pacman> root@pacman-desktop:/home/pacman/Desktop/torcs-1.2.4# dpkg -l | grep -i torcs
[04:56] <pacman> ii  torcs                                  1.2.4-1ubuntu7                          3D racing cars simulator game using OpenGL
[04:56] <pacman> ii  torcs-data                             1.2.4-1                                 base data files for TORCS game
[04:56] <pacman> ii  torcs-data-cars                        1.2.4-1                                 data files for TORCS game - Cars set
[04:56] <pacman> ii  torcs-data-tracks                      1.2.4-1                                 data files for torcs game - Tracks set
[04:56] <JacksLivr> Hawkwind: i installed and extracted that source. I am building the module now. It is taking a while.
[04:56] <flaccid> !paste > pacman
[04:56] <JacksLivr> 45 minutes so far on a core duo
[04:56] <pacman> !paste
[04:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:56] <Hawkwind> pacman: Please don't paste to the channel
[04:56] <flaccid> ok thats what i have
[04:56] <Hawkwind> JacksLivr: Very kewl.  Glad you got it sorted
[04:56] <pacman> sorry
[04:57] <pacman> anyhow, so my buddy tells me to just download it from the torcs site
[04:57] <JacksLivr> thanks you man. im not sure i would have ever caught the us. at the beginning as being a problem
[04:57] <flaccid> i'd rather find out the problem
[04:57] <flaccid> pacman: now this dpkg -l | grep -i libxrandr2
[04:57] <flaccid> do you have 1.1.0.2-0ubuntu4
[04:58] <flaccid> for both libs?
[04:58] <ndc> hi every body,i have problem the (wmv) format cant open in
[04:59] <Hawkwind> JacksLivr: Sometimes it is, sometimes it's not. You can add mirrors if you want to it, like I have se.archive.ubuntu.com to use the Swedish mirrors.  They work for me best even though I'm in the USA
[04:59] <orient2000> virus in it?
[04:59] <pacman> libxrandr2                             1.1.0.2-0ubuntu4
[04:59] <flaccid> pacman: pastebin output from ls -l /usr/lib/libXrandr.*
[05:00] <felixjet> how can i change icons of my files ?
[05:01] <flaccid> felixjet: per extension?
[05:01] <orient2000> try to open sample wmv
[05:01] <felixjet> uhm
[05:01] <Hawkwind> felixjet: You can do it globally in kcontrol
[05:01] <pacman> uhm, how do I pastebin it?
[05:01] <Hawkwind> felixjet: Or you can right click in konqueror and set them there
[05:01] <felixjet> no have extensions
[05:01] <pacman> I don't know anything about IRC
[05:01] <Hawkwind> pacman: http://pastebin.ulteo.us
[05:01] <flaccid> !paste > pacman
[05:01] <felixjet> they are links
[05:01] <pacman> !paste > pacman
[05:02] <flaccid> paste it in the pastebin site and then copy the link and paste here
[05:02] <felixjet> to nets/apps
[05:02] <pacman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26127/
[05:02] <ndc> how to open sample wmv i tru with VLC and mplayer but still now i cant
[05:02] <cpk2> ndc: do you have w32codecs?
[05:03] <orient2000> sorry, can not help.
[05:03] <felixjet> how i do it in kcontrol Hawkwind ?
[05:03] <felixjet> nvm, thats for all files
[05:03] <felixjet> i just want a few
[05:03] <Hawkwind> felixjet: If they are links I don't know.  I don't really use KDE enough to know.  I just know for files/directories the ways I mentioned above
[05:03] <felixjet> how to do in konqueror?
[05:03] <Ashex> anyone know how to setup gpg keys in kmail?
[05:03] <felixjet> >.<
[05:03] <flaccid> pacman: that looks fine
[05:04] <Ashex> I want to setup pgp verifcation in kmail, but i'm having issues with it
[05:04] <flaccid> can you paste the exact error message please
[05:04] <Ashex> me?
[05:05] <pacman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26128/
[05:05] <orient2000> maybe you do not have a drivers for wmv. search for easyubuntu on google.ca install one at a time. be carefull.
[05:05] <flaccid> sorry i meant pac
[05:05] <felixjet> Hawkwind: maybe i can do it with scripting? any idea?
[05:05] <flaccid> felixjet: you goto konqueror configuration and file assocations
[05:05] <zam> when im tring to install kubuntu i have format my home /dev and im in big trabil now ; can any one tell me about recovry tool that i can use pleases ?
[05:06] <flaccid> pacman: you didn't tell me you were compiling. why are you compiling?
[05:06] <cpk2> lol
[05:06] <flaccid> pacman: you already have the game installed
[05:06] <orient2000> w32codesc search for easyubuntu on google.ca install one at a time. be carefull.
[05:07] <flaccid> pacman: it should be in your game menu or simply run torcs
[05:07] <Hawkwind> !info w32codecs
[05:07] <ubotu> w32codecs: win32 binary codecs. In component extras, is optional. Version 1:20060611-0.0 (dapper-seveas), package size 13911 kB, installed size 33488 kB (Only available for i386)
[05:07] <cpk2> there is a wiki on how to get the w32 codecs
[05:07] <pacman> yeah, but when I try and play, there are no cars or tracks
[05:07] <Hawkwind> !codecs
[05:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:07] <orient2000> !easyubuntu
[05:07] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[05:07] <Hawkwind> Don't use easyubuntu, read the link before it
[05:08] <pacman> flaccid: just 4 wheels and a background....no way to tell where the track is or even see the car
[05:08] <ndc> ya thank iwill try
[05:08] <ndc> :)
[05:09] <flaccid> pacman: are the menus when the game loads ok?
[05:09] <pacman> yes, the menus seem fine
[05:09] <flaccid> pacman: pastebin the output when you run it from konsole
[05:10] <flaccid> it should start with probably Visual Properties Report then you might have errors..
[05:10] <pacman> is the command just torcs?
[05:11] <felixjet> flaccid: im noob in linux so, ill ask you if this is permited. i make an asociation. for example .felixjet and put an icon for that. and i tried and the file opened as i want, with !bin/sh .it this ok?
[05:12] <flaccid> felixjet: yeah i guess so. if it is a shell script ensure you have #!/bin/sh as the first line
[05:12] <pacman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26129/
[05:12] <felixjet> yes it is and it have
[05:12] <felixjet> :)
[05:13] <flaccid> sweet
[05:14] <flaccid> pacman: you have the errors. use google and #torcs
[05:15] <flaccid> i probably would compile myself in this situation
[05:15] <pacman> compile?
[05:16] <flaccid> yes
[05:16] <flaccid> what you were doing before
[05:16] <pacman> with the ./config
[05:16] <pacman> rather ./configure
[05:16] <flaccid> yes
[05:17] <flaccid> you probably need to make a soft link
[05:17] <pacman> but that's where I'm having my problems
[05:17] <scottpe> Hello, I'm having a problem getting kubuntu to see my alps touchpad.  The system seems to see and configure all other hardware
[05:18] <scottpe> has anyone else had any problems with using their touchpads under kubuntu.  I had mandriva installed and the touchpad worked fine.
[05:19] <orient2000> where is this program located? in internet or graphics?
[05:20] <flaccid> pacman: i will look at your config.log if you paste it even though this problem is outside the scope of this channel
[05:21] <pacman> how do I open my config.log
[05:21] <Dr_willis> more config.log
[05:21] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:21] <rojikaru> I need to know how to register a name?
[05:22] <flaccid> cat ./config.log > /tmp/config.log then open it with a text editor and pastebin
[05:24] <pacman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26131/
[05:25] <rojikaru> Does anyone know a Josh Beck?
[05:27] <flaccid> pacman: without knowing the specific configure options. try ./configure --libdir=/usr/lib
[05:27] <flaccid> if that doesnt' work, you need to seek further help from the project itself
[05:28] <flaccid> alternatively remove torcs package and install it again. i'd of course recommend removing the torcs packages if you are successful with ./configure and make and then need to do a make install
[05:29] <rojikaru> WHo works as staff here?
[05:29] <rojikaru> I need to register my name.
[05:29] <Dr_willis> rojikaru,  you are refering to your nickname?
[05:29] <rojikaru> That's exactly what I meant.
[05:30] <Dr_willis> - try /msg nickserv help
[05:32] <Dr_willis> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[05:32] <rojikaru> Okay nwo I need help
[05:32] <rojikaru> now*
[05:33] <VanessaE> ok, is this thing still on?
[05:33] <VanessaE> good.  I didn't block myself out :)
[05:33] <Dr_willis> Hmm.
[05:33] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:34] <orient2000> orient2000 REGISTER
[05:34] <pacman> I did the remove, but I don't htink it removed it completely
[05:34] <rojikaru> login
[05:36] <Dr_willis> logjam
[05:36] <VanessaE> ok, bedtime for me.  night all.
[05:36] <flaccid> pacman: need to use apt-get --purge
[05:39] <rojikaru> How do you fake mail?
[05:39] <orient2000> how can I remove all uninstalled files in Konsole?
[05:39] <Dr_willis> what an odd question to ask rojikaru
[05:39] <Dr_willis> orient2000,   the files apt download are in let me check... :)
[05:40] <Dr_willis> /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:40] <rojikaru> I know, but I'm reading this thing where I can be an uberhacker, so i'm supposed to ask, but the people in the room i'm in aren't answering.
[05:40] <Dr_willis> there is some apt clean command that remove4s them
[05:40] <Dr_willis> rojikaru,  i think you need to go spend more time reading about linux.
[05:41] <MasterEvilAce> which brings up a question.. is there a man page for linux in linux?
[05:41] <Hawkwind> orient2000: sudo apt-get clean
[05:41] <Hawkwind> orient2000: That will remove all the files in /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:41] <Dr_willis> MasterEvilAce,  since linux isent a command.. i would guess no.
[05:41] <rojikaru> Well it's a joke more, but i'm really looking for my teacher who might be on here.
[05:41] <orient2000> tks I will try
[05:42] <rojikaru> Plus my books haven't gotten in yet.
[05:42] <Dr_willis> Theres a HUGE amount of online guides/docs/tutorials out  on the web. :)
[05:43] <rojikaru> I know, and I'm also trying to hack into a computer.
[05:43] <rojikaru> Because they put a computer on my old Windows machine.
[05:47] <orient2000> it did clear my system and now is stable thanks
[05:47] <Dr_willis> orient2000,  its odd that clearing the apt archives would do anything at all to affect system stability..
[05:47] <rojikaru> Dr.
[05:47] <rojikaru> I needed to know something.
[05:48] <Dr_willis> Hmm?
[05:49] <rojikaru> When I was ftping my friends computer it would just have a blank line and I couldn't do anything, what should I do?
[05:50] <orient2000> well, I could not run update manager and I could not install any new programs from adept
[05:50] <Dr_willis> rojikaru,  you are mot making sence.
[05:50] <rojikaru> okay
[05:50] <orient2000> Well, maybe not a stability problem really.
[05:50] <rojikaru> well I type ftp and his ipaddress.
[05:50] <rojikaru> and after that it says connected to <ipaddress>.
[05:50] <Dr_willis> rojikaru,  you do realize that when you enter a password it does NOT echo any characters
[05:50] <BonBonTheJon> rojikaru: he has to be running an ftp server
[05:50] <orient2000> thanks for helping me.
[05:51] <rojikaru> It never asked for a password, and he is.
[05:51] <felixjet> im runing wine but its like 400x320 screen. how can i max. it'
[05:51] <Dr_willis> sounds like he needs to cehck his ftp server logs...
[05:52] <Dr_willis> we wont go into how BAD  running a ftp server is from a security point of view. :)
[05:52] <rojikaru> Oh okay.
[05:52] <felixjet> !wine
[05:52] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:52] <rojikaru> We know how bad it is.
[05:52] <rojikaru> It's just for testing purposes.
[05:52] <rojikaru> it has a file the says delete once opend.
[05:53] <rojikaru> opened*
[05:54] <Dr_willis> i would say theres a problem with his ftp server
[05:56] <rojikaru> Now how do I login using telnet?
[05:57] <flaccid> rojikaru: telnet host
[05:58] <flaccid> if you do not have telnet, install it with your fav package manager
[05:58] <rojikaru> Now what about if I want to get in and see the files?
[05:59] <flaccid> what the telnet server serves is up to the admin of the server
[05:59] <rojikaru> So it's not like I can do with ssh and just log in knowing the root pass and be able to open the cd drive?
[06:00] <rojikaru> and do you know of any remote servers that are open for easy hacking, pardon, manipulating?
[06:00] <Dr_willis> most systems block direct logging in as root.
[06:00] <rojikaru> So how would I get around those?
[06:02] <Dr_willis> Luck.
[06:03] <rojikaru> well i sshed hackthissite.org's server.
[06:03] <rojikaru> and the end result all i have to do is enter a password.
[06:08] <MotorCityMadMan> hello: I cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_timestamps and value = 1 > Can this value be tweaked ?
[06:08] <rojikaru> Well I must get ready for school, and a week of hacking, nite yalll.
[06:09] <Dr_willis> MotorCityMadMan,  what is it supposed to do?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:09] <Dr_willis> sudo echo '0' > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_timestamps
[06:09] <Dr_willis> MAY work.
[06:09] <MotorCityMadMan> advanced TCP features
[06:09] <Dr_willis> but isent 1 enabled? and 0 disabled?
[06:11] <MotorCityMadMan> i'm trying to tweak my connection for max use-ish of bandwidth
[06:14] <Dr_willis> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=251509
[06:14] <Dr_willis> mentions that topic
[06:22] <dennister> g'evening
[06:33] <v3trae> hey guys, trying to help a friend get used to kubuntu. i'm a gentoo user myself, whats the command to start sshd in Kubuntu?
[06:34] <fdoving> !guidelines > dennister
[06:34] <verbose> i can only login under failsafe from kdm
[06:34] <fdoving> v3trae: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[06:34] <verbose> i've moved ~/.kde to dotkde so it's not something i've messed up there
[06:34] <v3trae> fdoving, thats what i told him, says it isn't there. Is ssh not available from a livecd?
[06:34] <verbose> any pointers as to where to start?
[06:35] <dennister> I'm sorry?
[06:35] <fdoving> v3trae: needs to be installed. packagename is 'openssh-server'
[06:35] <verbose> it's been a long time since the last time i rebooted so i'm not sure how many updates and whatnot have taken place since my last boot
[06:35] <dennister> fdoving: i thought I was trying to be polite?
[06:35] <fdoving> v3trae: it's on the cd, but it's not installed by default. (ref. no open ports by default policy).
[06:36] <fdoving> !away
[06:36] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[06:36] <fdoving> dennister: ^^
[06:36] <v3trae> fdoving, thanks =)
[06:36] <fdoving> it's more disturbing and annoying than polite, i'm afraid. :)
[06:36] <dennister> I was going to go back to something I was working on, sorry...
[06:36] <fdoving> no problem :)
[06:36] <fdoving> i have to go to work.
[06:36] <fdoving> see you later.
[06:36] <dennister> g'nite
[06:37] <dennister> when i chatted years ago, regularly, we were supposed to tell pps when we weren't paying attention
[06:38] <dennister> rules change...different environments
[06:38] <fdoving> yes, this is a support channel, and if everyone in here were randomly telling you they we're away it wouldn't be much room for support-chat.
[06:39] <dennister> ok..i see, i'm rereading the ircguidlines now
[06:39] <dennister> thanks for the heads-up
[06:39] <fdoving> verbose: can it be this: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/53040
[06:39] <fdoving> dennister: you're welcome :)
[06:40] <fdoving> well.. off to work. bye.
[06:40] <dennister> bye
[06:41] <fdoving> !away
[06:41] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[06:41] <fdoving> dennister ^^
[06:41] <fdoving> :)
[06:41] <fdoving> now i'm leaving, for real.
[06:42] <dennister> i'm trying to do it silently so as not to disturb anyone
[06:42] <fdoving> the message is displayed.
[06:42] <fdoving> do you use konversation?
[06:42] <dennister> yes
[06:43] <dennister> fdoving; i don't want you to be late for work
[06:44] <fdoving> dennister: i work for myself. doesn't matter. but in konversation. go to settings -> identities
[06:44] <fdoving> go to the 'away'-tab.
[06:44] <dennister> I'll just leave for now to do my taks b4 i get kicked off someplace else for inactivity
[06:44] <fdoving> un-check 'show away message'
[06:45] <fdoving> now i'm leaving.
[06:45] <fdoving> bye.
[06:45] <dennister> ok, bye
[06:45] <verbose> fdoving: doesn't look like that's it.../dev/null has correct permissions
[06:45] <verbose> although my machine is doing exactly what that guy is describing
[06:46] <dennister> hawkwing is away anyway, so i'll be back later
[06:47] <dennister> opps...*hawkwind
[06:47] <dennister> bye for now
[06:49] <obf213> does anyone know why amarok wont let you change the tags on m4a files
[06:49] <obf213> it never seems to index them correctley and if you changed it  it says the change couldnt be save
[06:49] <obf213> if you change the file extention from m4a to mp3 it screws up the file and it doesnt really play
[07:17] <josef> hai everbody
[07:19] <josef> i want to install mysql thru adept if i type "mysql" it will show alots of mysql package but wich is it ???
[07:22] <noiesmo> josef, do you want php as well then pick like php5-mysql mysql-server-4.1
 thanks but i need only mysql
[07:23] <noiesmo> then mysql-server-4.1 should do it josef
 ok thanks you  see you later
[07:25] <noiesmo> josef, np
[07:30] <Arlington> hi!
[07:30] <Arlington> i need to change a option for a folder.
[07:31] <Arlington> i need the option for "all" to be set to read
[07:31] <Arlington> but the folder is owned by root.
[07:31] <noiesmo> well Arlington you need the usr who is sudo user to do it as by default root account is disabled
[07:31] <flaccid> Arlington: change the perms using sudo
[07:32] <Arlington> flaccid:  yes. but how?
[07:32] <Arlington> flaccid: i mean what command
[07:32] <noiesmo> sudo chown user:group folder
[07:32] <noiesmo> or chmod -r +xrw folder
[07:34] <noiesmo> oops chmod -r +xrw nogo sorry would be sudo chmod -r 777 folder to give all read write exe
[07:36] <Arlington> but all shouldn't have that the only one that i wanna change is the last option called others, i wan't it to be read.
[07:40] <Arlington> hello?!
[07:41] <flaccid> i don't recommend 777
[07:41] <flaccid> then its chmod 774
[07:41] <Arlington> but how do i change option other then the first called owner?
[07:42] <flaccid> or 775 for read and exec
[07:42] <flaccid> first called owner?
[07:43] <Arlington> when right clicking on teh folder and choosing the tab "protection" there are three types. "owner" "Group" "others" the option i wan't to change to read is the "other"
[07:45] <Arlington> but the folders is owned by root as it's a mounted hdd.
[07:46] <flaccid> Arlington: what filesystem is it?
[07:46] <Arlington> fat32
[07:46] <flaccid> in that case you need to mount it with a mask
[07:47] <flaccid> do you want to own it?
[07:47] <flaccid> and not root?
[07:47] <flaccid> !fat
[07:47] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:47] <aegeanbot> Wish I knew!
[07:48] <yonkeltron> !fuse
[07:48] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[07:48] <Arlington> a pearl script needs to acces the drive (that works perfectly with other programs run by me) but the pearlscript executes as another user.
[07:48] <aegeanbot> Bugger all, I dunno!
[07:48] <flaccid> ^^ Arlington that link shows it all
[07:49] <Arlington> can't you just tell me how to change the options for the folder?
[07:49] <flaccid> not that you cannot chmod on fat because fat does not have any perms
[07:49] <flaccid> you can't chmod with fat!
[07:49] <flaccid> fat does not have acl
[07:51] <Arlington> yes i could earlier. it worked perfectly. it's not the drive i chmod it's the folder in /media/sda10
[07:51] <Arlington> but you tought me how to chmod the first post (owner)
[07:51] <patrick> woahh
[07:51] <patrick> huh
[07:52] <flaccid> Arlington: that is the mount point folder
[07:52] <patrick> when is the final edgy going to be released?
[07:52] <Arlington> yes i know
[07:53] <flaccid> Arlington:
[07:53] <flaccid> so follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[07:53] <Arlington> flaccid. it is mopunting automattcile
[07:53] <Arlington> ly
[07:53] <flaccid> hghuh?
[07:54] <flaccid> you just set the desired perms on the mount point and mount it with the required mask
[07:55] <Arlington> the drive is mounting perfectly. just with the wrong permissions and i was able to change it to writeable for the owner of the folder (root) but i wan't it to be readable for the third option (others) can chmod change that for me? if so, how?
[07:55] <flaccid> or already said
[07:55] <flaccid> chmod 775
[07:55] <patrick> a
[07:55] <flaccid> or=i
[07:55] <flaccid> you really should read up on the masks, Arlington
[07:55] <patrick> when is edgy going to be released
[07:59] <Amority> Does anyone know when the final release of Edgy Eft will be out?
[08:03] <bimberi_> Amority: Oct 26 is the target date - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[08:04] <Amority> Thank you bimberi
[08:05] <bimberi_> np :)
[08:06] <flaccid> time to detach
[08:11] <HitmanX> apt-get or aptitude?
[08:12] <HitmanX> i read somewhere aptitude deals with dependencies better
[08:12] <twosouls82> apt-get works fine
[08:12] <bimberi_> !aptitude
[08:12] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[08:12] <twosouls82> use what you like better
[08:12] <Amority> Wow now I get it
[08:13] <HitmanX> ah right that makes sense
[08:13] <Amority> so when you do aptitude remove, it removes more dependencies?
[08:13] <Amority> or removes them in general
[08:13] <bimberi_> yes (as long as other packages don't use those dependencies)
[08:13] <Amority> Ok thanks
[08:13] <bimberi_> np :)
[08:14] <twosouls82> there is a 'plugin' for apt-get that does something like that too
[08:23] <peteryu> is anybody outside
[08:24] <twosouls82> hi peteryu
[08:24] <peteryu> Sorry, I am a newbie
[08:25] <twosouls82> :)
[08:25] <Amority> :p
[08:25] <twosouls82> peteryu: we all were once
[08:25] <Amority> yup and Im still a newbie myself actually ^-^
[08:26] <peteryu> i just install Kubuntu and i don't know what to do
[08:26] <flaccid> i'm a n00b
[08:27] <twosouls82> peteryu: any general questions? or do you want me to point you out to the man pages, tutorials, help files etc?
[08:27] <twosouls82> s/general/particular
[08:30] <peteryu> thanks in advance !
[08:31] <twosouls82> peteryu: heh :) no props
[08:31] <twosouls82> s/props/probs
[08:33] <twosouls82> peteryu: a really good start for (k)ubuntu would be their help file (khelpcentre of gnome-help (?))
[08:37] <maryen> was edgy rc1 released tonight?
[08:39] <maryen> hello?
[08:42] <bimberi_> maryen: no, it's scheduled for Oct 19 - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[08:43] <maryen> hmm, whats with the huge update then
[08:44] <maryen> brb
[08:55] <twosouls82> later people :)
[09:10] <|lostbyte|x> Hi Guys..
[09:13] <D_C2> hello
[09:13] <Amority> hello
[09:13] <|lostbyte|x> This place is quite.
[09:13] <Amority> yes it is lol
[09:17] <draik> I know that GNOME has a widget for a dictionary/thesaurus. Does KDE have something similar?
[09:17] <Amority> Ive been looking for one myself. Im sure there is one, But I havnt found one yet
[09:17] <|lostbyte|x> kdict
[09:17] <Amority> oo thanks :D
[09:17] <stoic> im pretty sure there is one that comes with open office
[09:18] <stoic> dont quote me on that though
[09:18] <Amority> lol
[09:18] <|lostbyte|x> :P
[09:19] <stoic> does anyone in here know much about xfce?
[09:20] <Amority> I know a little bit
[09:20] <stoic> it is a good gui to run on older machines correct?
[09:20] <Amority> yes
[09:21] <andersgo> It's quick and fast. Recommended if you think Gnome/KDE is too heavy
[09:21] <|lostbyte|x> !xfce
[09:21] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org  To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[09:21] <Amority> right
[09:21] <Amority> its really fast and lightweight. I installed it on my friends PII pc
[09:21] <Amority> runs smoothly too :D
[09:21] <stoic> ok, i have an older laptop that i am going to try installing xubuntu on, its kind of my test machine right now, the integrated 512 ram is also used for my video card... :( so i need a pretty light interface to run it efficiantly
[09:21] <Amority> Xubuntu will do more than well on that then
[09:22] <stoic> cool, i mean its only 3 years old... but i when i installed kubuntu on my desktop i noticed a deffinate improvement on the speed
[09:22] <stoic> which means that the laptop probaly just can't handle that heavy of a GUI
[09:22] <andersgo> My Atheros ath0 interface installed perfectly during the installation, but after kernel upgrade the driver has disappeared...
[09:23] <Amority> O yeah Kubuntu is a resource hog ;) Xubuntu runs well on my friends pc which has 256mb sdram, shared with onboard graphics
[09:23] <andersgo> Do I have to do some manual work after each kernel-upgrade?
[09:23] <stoic> ouch...
[09:23] <stoic> the driver just dissapeared on you?
[09:23] <Amority> o
[09:23] <Amority> yeah
[09:23] <Amority> cuz its not in the new kernel folder
[09:23] <Amority> I install the drivers to the main Firmware folder so no matter what kernel you run, it works
[09:24] <Amority> just reinstall it
[09:24] <andersgo> How doI reinstall the mad-wifi driver in Kubuntu?
[09:24] <Amority> what kind of wireless adaptor are you using?
[09:25] <Amority> Do you know what kind of chipset it is?
[09:25] <draik> Amority, kdict is good, but is there anything that will run on my system bar?
[09:26] <Amority> I havnt found a dictionary widget for the system bar for KDE. You can search www.kde-look.org but I havnt had any luck
[09:26] <andersgo> ath0: <Atheros 5212>
[09:27] <andersgo> This is from my FreeBSD which is currently running
[09:27] <Amority> andersgo have you installed it in linux before? Im not fond of the Atheros chipsets. Mine is a broadcom. Sorry If I am unable to help you well
[09:28] <stoic> ok well my xubuntu download is done, off to installing... goodbye
[09:28] <andersgo> Yeah It ran perfectly on my old Fedora installation, but I had to recompile the mad-wifi driver after each kernel upgrade
[09:28] <draik> searched there and http://www.google.com/linux too,     nothing
[09:29] <Amority> draik, same here. I searched and searched as well. No luck. :D
[09:29] <draik> oh well
[09:30] <Amority> me too
[09:30] <andersgo> I had some hopes that the ath driver in Kubuntu would work automagicly - even after kernel upgrades
[09:31] <Amority> I know it will if you extract a copy of the drivers in the Firmware dir. Thats what I did. Is that what you did. Im not even sure if thats whats doing it for me.
[09:31] <andersgo> I have not copied anything - yet
[09:31] <draik> Is it possible to find drivers for an old (2002-ish) scanner for linux?
[09:31] <Amority> ok
[09:32] <twosouls82> lo :)
[09:34] <Amority> Hehe, how do I register to this channel :D?
[09:34] <Hurgin> has anyone else had these errors: "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169"?
[09:35] <Amority> what are you doing when you get this error?
[09:35] <twosouls82> !nickserv
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nickserv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <Amority> thanks twosouls
[09:35] <Amority> o
[09:35] <Hurgin> if I run an X app from the console i get them
[09:35] <twosouls82> Amority: wait a sec
[09:35] <Amority> ok
[09:35] <andersgo> The only diff between lib/firmware/2.6.15-26-386
[09:36] <andersgo> and the -27 revision is the acx directory.
[09:36] <twosouls82> Amority: this will do; http://www.irchat.tv/nickserv.htm
[09:36] <Hurgin> "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[09:36] <Hurgin>   Major opcode:  147
[09:36] <Hurgin>   Minor opcode:  3
[09:36] <Hurgin>   Resource id:  0x0
[09:36] <Hurgin> Failed to open device
[09:36] <Hurgin> "
[09:36] <Amority> thanks twosouls
[09:36] <twosouls82> ;)
[09:37] <Amority> andersgo, when you extract your drivers, put a copy in your firmware dir and I think that will keep you from having to redo it after kernel updates
[09:37] <twosouls82> Hurgin: that's just a non-existant (pointer (?)) device in your xorg.conf
[09:37] <twosouls82> remove it and the error will be gone
[09:38] <Hurgin> how do i identify it in the file?
[09:38] <andersgo> Amority: Thanks. I'll try that approach.
[09:38] <Amority> Np :D
[09:38] <twosouls82> Hurgin: it's probably a pointer, look for the input devices... you will soon enough see what you don't have :)
[09:40] <twosouls82> Hurgin: use  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org if you are unsure
[09:40] <Hurgin> thanks twosouls82
[09:41] <twosouls82> np
[09:41] <Hurgin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26143/
[09:42] <Hurgin> I notice xorg.conf mentions a ps/2 mouse, but I have a usb one?
[09:42] <twosouls82> Hurgin: It's the "stylus" and the "eraser", assuming you don't have it either.. if it doesn't ring a bell... you don't have it
[09:43] <Hurgin> yeah def. do not have a stylus - will comment those out :)
[09:43] <twosouls82> Hurgin: "cursor" too, I forgot that one
[09:43] <twosouls82> and your mouse works like a charm right? ;)
[09:44] <Hurgin> yeah - thanks
[09:44] <twosouls82> anytime
[09:53] <stefan> Hej
[09:54] <stefan> Jag r nybrjare p linux och hller p att bli knpp och undrar om det finns nn vnlig som vill hjlpa mig
[09:54] <twosouls82> hi stefan
[09:55] <twosouls82> and in English that means? (you will be helped a lot quicker/easier that way)
[09:55] <stefan> ok Im sorry
[09:55] <twosouls82> our Scandinavian isn't that good
[09:55] <feet> hi.. amarok throws a bunch of songs into Various Artists.. i dont understand how they got in there, when several other songs by the same artist have their own listing... what exactly does the collection builder look for when categorising items?? thanks in advance :-)
[09:56] <twosouls82> feet:  the id3 tags
[09:56] <twosouls82> feet: it looks like the mp3s you have aren't cleanly filled in
[09:56] <stefan> I new to all this linux
[09:56] <twosouls82> s/cleanly/correctly
[09:57] <stefan> And my problem is that I have problems with getting my readeon 9600 to work with kubuntu
[09:58] <twosouls82> stefan: I myself don't have a ati card, but what is the exact problem you have with getting it to work?
[09:58] <twosouls82> s/a/an
[09:59] <Admiral_Chicago> does anybody know if katapult has an error log
[09:59] <Admiral_Chicago> and if so, where is it kept
[09:59] <feet> twosouls82: i have all the fields filled..
[09:59] <feet> im quit @n@l when it comes to that
[09:59] <stefan> I dont know how to make the file start
[10:00] <Amority> stefan
[10:00] <Amority> did you download the ati driver
[10:00] <stefan> yes
[10:00] <Amority> I use ati
[10:00] <twosouls82> feet: well, if you have more than one artist, it IS various
[10:00] <Amority> ok which driver did you download?
[10:00] <stefan> yes but i cant start it
[10:00] <feet> its just one artist
[10:00] <feet> no
[10:00] <feet> sorry i mean
[10:00] <Amority> well you could use  "sudo sh <filename>"  if the driver is in your home dir
[10:00] <twosouls82> hehe :) feet
[10:00] <feet> theres many artists yes... but these artists also have their own categories
[10:00] <feet> so why cant the songs be in those?
[10:01] <stefan> xorg.driver.fglrx.dev_  is the name of the driver
[10:01] <twosouls82> feet you can choose the display type for the collection in the dropdown list above it
[10:01] <feet> i know
[10:01] <feet> i have it set to artist
[10:01] <Amority> where did you download that driver Stefan?
[10:01] <feet> so in theory, it should display all songs by artist
[10:02] <feet> most of them do, but a few do not and wind up in various
[10:02] <stefan> from ati
[10:02] <Amority> hold on real fast
[10:02] <twosouls82> and you want the various to appear in their own sub group?
[10:02] <Amority> I have the Fglrx installer driver
[10:02] <twosouls82> feet: like they should, various artists in the various group
[10:02] <hyper> !de
[10:02] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:02] <stefan> ok does the fglrx work for my card
[10:03] <feet> lets say there is a category for an artist called singer x. so theres songs listed under singer x's list. GREAT! but some of singer x's songs are listed under various artists. that doesnt make sense.
[10:03] <Amority> yes
[10:03] <Amority> use the driver 8.26.18
[10:03] <Amority> download it from the recent drivers list on ati's website
[10:03] <Amority> then use this
[10:03] <Amority> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204910
[10:03] <stefan> ok  but how do I start the file when I have downloaded it
[10:03] <cpk2> feet: huh, i never noticed that until you brought that up
[10:03] <twosouls82> feet, amarok handles various artists files that way... I am not to fond of it either
[10:03] <feet> oh
[10:04] <Amority> just follow that tutorial
[10:04] <twosouls82> fond/font?
[10:04] <hyper> anyone can help me setting up a streaming mp3 server? I installed gnump3 but I don't know how to access it now
[10:05] <twosouls82> feet, I use the 'order by album' the most
[10:05] <stefan> ok thanks
[10:05] <Amority> np :D
[10:05] <feet> albums are no good to me :P
[10:05] <feet> because lets imagine singer x has a billion albums... lol
[10:06] <twosouls82> feet; you can use the filter above it
[10:06] <twosouls82> ;)
[10:06] <bohmto> i cant send or recive files in kopete icq
[10:06] <feet> thats no good
[10:06] <feet> i dont want to type
[10:06] <bohmto> im running edgy
[10:06] <feet> i want the list there right now in view
[10:06] <twosouls82> bohmto: forward the ports it uses in your router config (nat)
[10:06] <feet> hence, using artist view
[10:07] <twosouls82> or even open them in your firewall
[10:07] <bohmto> any idea if im missing a plugin
[10:07] <twosouls82> bohmto: yep, you're not
[10:08] <twosouls82> feet: request a adjustment :)
[10:08] <twosouls82> s/a/an
[10:08] <feet> lol i shall
[10:08] <feet> where would i do that, probably something on the amarok website i guess
[10:09] <bohmto> wich plugin are requierd for kopete to send and recive files?
[10:09] <twosouls82> dunno feet, maybe you could check #amarok
[10:10] <twosouls82> they'll tell you
[10:10] <feet> kopete in the repositories lets you send files
[10:10] <twosouls82> bohmto: none at all
[10:10] <feet> in a conversation window, click chat then send file
[10:10] <bohmto> well i cant do that
[10:11] <feet> or chat, contacts, the contact's name, then send a file
[10:11] <twosouls82> bohmto: you should ensure that the firewall of your box and the one on your router don't stop the transfer
[10:11] <bohmto> i have tried that to
[10:11] <feet> unusual
[10:11] <twosouls82> pretty damn usual
[10:11] <twosouls82> :D
[10:12] <bohmto> well i can try to reinstall kopete
[10:12] <feet> may work
[10:12] <twosouls82> will not, unless I am wrong
[10:12] <Amority> will sudo apt-get install kopete work?
[10:12] <feet> yeh
[10:12] <Amority> o wait im completely off subject im sorry
[10:13] <feet> even sudo apt-get install --reinstall kopete
[10:13] <feet> that will work as well
[10:13] <Amority> ok thanks
[10:13] <bohmto> and i will try with licq to to see if the problem is the router
[10:13] <feet> come to think of it, will there be jabber support in kopete anytime soon for the repos?
[10:13] <khirr> wllo
[10:13] <khirr> ello
[10:13] <feet> not jabber
[10:13] <feet> jingle sorry
[10:13] <khirr> i have one question
[10:13] <twosouls82> bohmto: that will only do if they use the same ports
[10:14] <khirr> i need format one disk
[10:14] <bohmto> ok thanks
[10:14] <khirr> but i wanna that be on ntfs, but since kubuntu
[10:14] <khirr> how can i do ir?
[10:15] <feet> so you want to format a disk to ntfs?
[10:15] <khirr> yes
[10:15] <feet> get qtparted using adept
[10:15] <khirr> i clean one particion without want
[10:15] <feet> why do you want ntfs
[10:15] <khirr> qtparted?
[10:16] <twosouls82> ntfs -> linux? :D
[10:16] <feet> if anything, use either ext3 or vfat
[10:17] <khirr> i converted one particion to ext3, i lost all my data, but whatever, now i need convert that to ntfs
[10:17] <feet> what for??
[10:17] <twosouls82> khirr: how did you 'convert' it?
[10:18] <khirr> installing kubuntu 32 bits, cause 64 is a litle uncompatible
[10:18] <khirr> my brother use this machine too, but he works with windows
[10:18] <feet> then you probably accidentally wiped the drive
[10:19] <twosouls82> yup, I think so too feet, and thus khirr
[10:19] <khirr> yes
[10:19] <khirr> i downloades qtparted
[10:19] <twosouls82> whiped for good probably
[10:19] <feet> there are extraordinary measures you can take to recover data... none of which work
[10:19] <feet> the data is gone
[10:20] <feet> trust me, ive been there and back
[10:20] <twosouls82> unless you just f*cked up the table, then you could restore it.. changed file system type -> wrecked it
[10:20] <khirr> but, the data was in the unit D, i cleaned unit E, where was my information, really important is my brother information, my, i can download 30gb again :'(
[10:20] <cox377> i was talking with someone on here about the canon IP1000
[10:20] <cox377> dont know if they are on now
[10:22] <khirr> omg
[10:22] <feet> oh i found the answer to my amarok question
[10:22] <feet> yay
[10:22] <Amority> :P
[10:22] <khirr> i forgot my root pass
[10:23] <twosouls82> feet: which is? (dying to know it too)
[10:23] <feet> lol
[10:23] <twosouls82> ;
[10:23] <hyper> anyone can help me setting up a streaming mp3 server? I installed gnump3 but I don't know how to access it now
[10:23] <feet> set the view to Artist/Album, right click the Album, and pick Do not show
[10:24] <khirr> gays
[10:24] <khirr> plpop
[10:24] <khirr> ;S
[10:24] <khirr> guys
[10:25] <twosouls82> feet: heh :P
[10:25] <khirr> one question, how could change my root pass
[10:25] <cpk2> i think its passwd root
[10:25] <cpk2> as sudo
[10:25] <feet> just passwd
[10:25] <feet> as sudo, yes
[10:25] <twosouls82> khirr: sudo passwd
[10:26] <khirr> nice
[10:26] <khirr> thanks
[10:26] <twosouls82> *eeeek*
[10:27] <cpk2> pretty sure you want to specify root as whose password you are changing
[10:27] <twosouls82> cpk2: you don't need to, just passwd will be root automatically
[10:27] <feet> yeah
[10:28] <khirr> WELL
[10:28] <Carbon_Monoxide> Hail everybody
[10:28] <khirr> I'LL CHECK IS HAVE AGAIN MY UNIT
[10:29] <feet> im off, thanks for the assistance fellas
[10:29] <Carbon_Monoxide> I got some problem on install j2re and jdk on dapper, what is the suitable channel I should ask?
[10:29] <twosouls82> Carbon_Monoxide: what is the problem?
[10:29] <Dendron> hey everyone. Firefox crashed on me. when i launch it again, my system says that its already running. So what do i type in the terminal to kill the firefox process?
[10:30] <twosouls82> Dendron: killall -9 firefox and restart it
[10:30] <Amority> killall firefox
[10:30] <Dendron> thanx.
[10:30] <cpk2> not -9!
[10:30] <Dendron> no9
[10:30] <Dendron> ?
[10:30] <cpk2> unless it is misbehaving
[10:30] <twosouls82> since it is :D
[10:30] <cpk2> only use -9 when it wont die for sure
[10:30] <Dendron> well i did sudo killall firefox AND it didnt work
[10:30] <Amority> then -9 it
[10:30] <Amority> :P
[10:31] <cpk2> try doing kill pid
[10:31] <twosouls82> that's why the -9
[10:31] <twosouls82> :D
[10:31] <Amority> try pid too
[10:31] <Dendron> ok let me try these. i dont wanna reboot, yah know
[10:31] <cpk2> i've never trusted killall anyways
[10:31] <Amority> try whatever :P
[10:31] <cpk2> Dendron: do ps aux and find firefox then do kill firefoxespidhere
[10:31] <flaccid> with killall the process name needs to match eactly
[10:31] <Carbon_Monoxide> I have added the Multiverse repository, but it says "Some packages could not be installed"
[10:32] <flaccid> in this case firefoxis firefox-bin. so killall firefox-bin
[10:32] <Dendron> hey ps aux is pretty nifty =D
[10:32] <Dendron> Try killall firefox-bin
[10:32] <Dendron> one sec
[10:32] <twosouls82> Carbon_Monoxide: have universe enabled too?
[10:32] <Carbon_Monoxide> twosouls82: yea
[10:33] <Dendron> ok i did 'killall firefox-bin'
[10:33] <Dendron> it worked
[10:33] <Dendron> thanx
[10:33] <Dendron> !
[10:33] <Dendron> =D
[10:33] <twosouls82> Carbon_Monoxide: what is the exact error when you use the console to install those packages?
[10:33] <Dendron> do what does ps aux mean? Like, whats it stand for?
[10:34] <flaccid> Dendron: man ps
[10:34] <Dendron> kk
[10:34] <andersgo> ps waux is the *BSD style of ps -ef
[10:34] <flaccid> good explantaation there on the aux thing
[10:34] <Dendron> man ps | festival --TTS    =D
[10:35] <Carbon_Monoxide> twosouls82: It says "Some packages could not be installed."
[10:35] <twosouls82> Carbon_Monoxide: which are you trying to install?
[10:35] <Dendron> thanks everyone. once again you saved my life. i heart you all. heh   Adios for now
[10:35] <flaccid> cia0
[10:36] <Carbon_Monoxide> sun-java5-bin
[10:36] <Carbon_Monoxide> I had got Borland JBuilder installed, so I got Free-Java on my machine
[10:37] <twosouls82> Carbon_Monoxide: could be the conflict
[10:37] <twosouls82> try removing that one first
[10:38] <tabias> how do I change the date in korganizer zo that google calendar shows up at the correct time (currently taking the utc time from the google calendar) (so online 10h my time will be 10h utc time in korganizer)
[10:38] <khirr> guys
[10:38] <khirr> i'm Khirr
[10:39] <twosouls82> wb khirr
[10:39] <khirr> i'm reinstaling Kubuntu :'(
[10:39] <khirr> but, i have my Particion :D
[10:40] <Carbon_Monoxide> so I should remove Free-Java or along with JBuilder?
[10:40] <khirr> can i use JavaCreator in Kubuntu?
[10:40] <twosouls82> Carbon_Monoxide: I would do that, and then get sun-java installed, on succes.. reinstall jbuilder
[10:42] <Carbon_Monoxide> okay, thanks for your advice, twosouls82
[10:42] <twosouls82> Carbon_Monoxide: I hope it will do
[10:42] <khirr> what is the speed diferente in Kubuntu AMD64 and 32bits?
[10:43] <twosouls82> khirr: small, I have a 64 but have 32 installed
[10:43] <khirr> me too
[10:43] <khirr> i'm had intalled 64amd
[10:43] <khirr> but, now i'm installing 32
[10:43] <twosouls82> khirr: good choice.. support will get better as soon as all browser plugins are 64 bit available
[10:44] <khirr> when will be that?
[10:44] <twosouls82> or if there will be a 32 bit plugin loader for 64 bit systems
[10:44] <khirr> well guys, i have to sleep, in peru is 3:45 am ;S
[10:44] <twosouls82> khirr: well... I dunno.. but I don't expect them soon...
[10:44] <twosouls82> nighty night
[10:45] <khirr> cya guys, thanks for the help
[10:50] <twosouls82> !search build
[10:50] <ubotu> Found: build-essential,kernel,build-essentials,chroot,gnome,ftbs,daily build,builddep,build-dep,daily
[10:50] <twosouls82> !builddep
[10:50] <ubotu> build-dep is a handy APT tool that will try to automatically install build (compile) dependencies for you. In the terminal: sudo apt-get build-dep package
[10:50] <twosouls82> !search package
[10:50] <ubotu> Found: debconf,latest kde,kdeincludes,repos,apt,no, amarok,motu,aptitude,rpm,changelogs
[10:51] <flaccid> !search flaccid
[10:51] <ubotu> Found:
[10:51] <flaccid> thought i was nothing!
[10:51] <twosouls82> :D
[10:52] <twosouls82> !fight flaccid twosouls82
[10:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fight flaccid twosouls82 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:52] <twosouls82> no google fights? :9
[10:52] <flaccid> whats a google fight
[10:52] <twosouls82> flaccid: that's a bot checking who appears the most on Google, used in some rooms here
[10:53] <flaccid> ah ok
[10:54] <flaccid> !f1ght flaccid vs sex
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about f1ght flaccid vs sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:54] <flaccid> oopass
[10:56] <twosouls82> hehe, flaccid.. not here ;)
[10:56] <twosouls82> ubuntulinux.nl? since when is it Dutch?
[10:57] <flaccid> you don't say
[11:03] <ukAdamF> Morning/Evening/Afternoon all. Just a quick one.. any idea why KDE forgets my dns settings on every reboot? It was fine until I installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu.. now I have to continually reset it each morning :(
[11:03] <flaccid> are you using dhcp?
[11:04] <ukAdamF> No, it *should* be all static. It was under Ubuntu. It remembers my IP, gateway and netmask fine.. just has issues with dns
[11:09] <cpk2> ukAdamF: hmm does /etc/network/interfaces have what you are looking for?
[11:09] <flaccid> ukAdamF: change it in System Settings > network
[11:09] <cpk2> might be able to set static dns there, although dns is stored in resolv.conf
[11:10] <ukAdamF> flaccid : That's the problem.. I have to do that every reboot. Even if I modify resolv.conf, next reboot, it's empty again.
[11:10] <ukAdamF> cpk2: Looking...
[11:10] <cpk2> i suppose you could make a script to edit resolv.conf on every boot heh
[11:10] <flaccid> ukAdamF: pastebin /etc/network/interfaces
[11:10] <ukAdamF> righto
[11:11] <cpk2> i dunno if that interfaces file is the answer though
[11:12] <ukAdamF> pastebin being sloooooooow.
[11:12] <ukAdamF> auto eth0
[11:12] <ukAdamF> iface eth0 inet static
[11:12] <ukAdamF> is the important bit, it's set to static
[11:13] <flaccid> is that the only things in there
[11:13] <ukAdamF> no, lots more but didn't want to flood the channel. Still waiting for pastebin to take the submit..
[11:14] <maijanew> hi, how can I convert file names from one encoding to other? My file names aftwr move to Kubuntu now look like "t?ext??.txt".
[11:15] <ukAdamF> http://adamf.pastebin.co.uk/3968      given up on .com
[11:16] <cpk2> ukAdamF: try adding the dns in there as well? =P
[11:17] <ukAdamF> Will certainly give it a go ;)
[11:17] <cpk2> nevermind looks like interfaces doesnt allow a dns option in it
[11:18] <ukAdamF> ah. That'll be why I can't find it in the manpage
[11:18] <flaccid> cpk2: you can't add dns in interfaces. that is for resolv.conf
[11:18] <flaccid> well at least thats what i thought
[11:19] <flaccid> which interface is in question, ukAdamF
[11:19] <ukAdamF> eth0
[11:20] <flaccid> you are right. it is fine. do you run a vpn or any other services that change networking?
[11:20] <ukAdamF> Under Gnome (wife uses it), it's fine. Under KDE, it forgets every reboot. So odd
[11:20] <ukAdamF> No, it's pretty vanilla to be honest.
[11:21] <cpk2> and kde just blanks resolv.conf?
[11:22] <flaccid> ukAdamF: check logs. /var/log/syslog, /var/log/messages, /var/log/daemon.log
[11:22] <flaccid> try to find what is doing it
[11:22] <ukAdamF> Well, I'm not saying KDE is responsible for that, but it happens each reboot and the symtoms began upon installing KDE.
[11:22] <cpk2> well maybe kde and gnome are fighting =P
[11:22] <ukAdamF> I wouldn't be surprised :P
[11:22] <ukAdamF> I'll have a rumage in the logs next boot
[11:23] <flaccid> kde and gnome both use the system. ensure you have no network profiles being used with a network manager program
[11:24] <ukAdamF> I've not really installed much to be honest, the system is only a few weeks old. I set up networking during the Ubuntu install, and hadn't touched it again since. (Until I installed kubuntu-desktop). There are other people out there experiencing the same problem, according to Google, but no answers as yet.
[11:25] <flaccid> can you show me a page about these other people
[11:25] <ukAdamF> sure, 1 sec.
[11:25] <ukAdamF> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=252967
[11:26] <ukAdamF> There are some more, can't remember what I searched for for the rest. But iirc there are 2 'victims' in that thread alone.
[11:27] <ukAdamF> Not sure if that's the right thread now.. can't find the Kubuntu reference
[11:27] <ukAdamF> but this one might have my answers..
[11:27] <ukAdamF> resolvconf, possibly.
[11:30] <flaccid> you should probably stop trying to blame kubuntu or blaming anything until you know what did it
[11:30] <ukAdamF> I'm not blaming kubuntu, specifically. As I said the symptoms only began upon installing it. If I load up into Gnome, it's fine. Load KDE, doesn't work until I reset it in the control panel.
[11:31] <ukAdamF> While not conclusive, it's a reasonable assumption.
[11:32] <flaccid> its not reasonable at all actually
[11:32] <flaccid> something doesnt need to change for it to go bad
[11:32] <flaccid> assumptions are never good imo
[11:33] <flaccid> until you can find further information, i can't think of anything to do
[11:33] <ukAdamF> It hasn't 'gone bad', it was never right to begin with (under KDE). I'm not blaming anyone or anything, just pointing to the likely suspects. Either KDE itself, or something that installed with the kubuntu-desktop package, is causing problems.
[11:33] <ukAdamF> That much is fact.
[11:33] <flaccid> when you go to network settings, are there any profiles in the network profiles tab?
[11:34] <wedgeV> where can i 2.6.18 or later -mm packages for ubuntu?
[11:34] <wedgeV> get
[11:34] <flaccid> gone bad was a figure of speech. anything could of caused this problem.. you have no idea what..
[11:34] <ukAdamF> no, no profiles listed.
[11:35] <flaccid> the likely suspects are anything that has access to /etc/resolv.conf
[11:35] <flaccid> directly or indirectly..
[11:35] <ukAdamF> We'll agree to differ on that point I think :)
[11:36] <flaccid> assume makes an ass out of u and me
[11:36] <flaccid> if you have heard that saying
[11:36] <ukAdamF> I am not assuming. it's a statement of fact than since installing it, it hasn't worked (right).
[11:36] <flaccid> you mentioned that many times..
[11:36] <ukAdamF> Revert to Gnome, and all is good.
[11:37] <Smooph> hi somebody here who know how to get OSS Sounds forwarded to ALSA with the aoss thingy?
[11:38] <flaccid> so if you boot up, log in to gnome, then log out of gnome, and then into kde is it ok for gnome but resolv.conf goes blank for kde?
[11:38] <Carbon_Monoxide> Excuse me, what is the best channel I should ask to when I got a problem on install Sun-Java?
[11:38] <flaccid> Carbon_Monoxide: here
[11:38] <flaccid> or #java if its not in the ubuntu sources
[11:38] <Carbon_Monoxide> flaccid: Hello
[11:38] <flaccid> hi
[11:39] <Carbon_Monoxide> I'm trying to install the Sun-Java on dapper repostitory
[11:39] <flaccid> and the problem CM?
[11:40] <Carbon_Monoxide> I got dependency problem
[11:40] <flaccid> ij
[11:40] <flaccid> ok
[11:40] <Carbon_Monoxide> sun-java5-bin: Depends: unixodbc but it is not installable
[11:40] <Carbon_Monoxide> seems that I need the UnixODBC, but it failed to grap it
[11:41] <wedgeV> Smooph: you just start the application with "aoss <application>"
[11:41] <flaccid> CM: what is the output of sudo dpkg -l | grep -i unixodbc
[11:41] <Smooph> what if it doesn't work
[11:41] <wedgeV> does sound work in alsa?
[11:42] <Carbon_Monoxide> flaccid: no return
[11:42] <cpk2> Carbon_Monoxide: sudo apt-get install unixodbc doesnt work?
[11:42] <flaccid> Carbon_Monoxide: try sudo apt-get install unixodbc
[11:42] <Smooph> thing is I tried to have my teamspeak running with aoss so I can have games running under wine too but it doesn't work
[11:42] <|Mikael|> mplayer doesn't play audio on dvd
[11:43] <wedgeV> you can setup wine to use alsa
[11:43] <|Mikael|> what to do? i searched google, but couldn't find any solution
[11:43] <Carbon_Monoxide> cpk2: I got a message saying "odbcinst1debian1" is replacing it
[11:43] <|Mikael|> wedgeV: for example amarok doesn't play sound over wine
[11:43] <|Mikael|> only if i change wine to alsa
[11:44] <|Mikael|> oh :)
[11:44] <Smooph> sure but cannot setup teamspeak to use alsa wedgeV
[11:44] <|Mikael|> any one any ide?
[11:44] <|Mikael|> ide == idea?
[11:44] <cpk2> hrmm, are you using that particular one for a reason?
[11:44] <wedgeV> Smooph: is teamspeak a linux or a windows app?
[11:44] <cpk2> wedgeV: its both
[11:45] <wedgeV> |Mikael|: mplayer -ao alsa ?
[11:45] <wedgeV> ah
[11:45] <m4x1mum_> ok people whats a good download manager ?
[11:45] <flaccid> CM: weird. i have both installed.
[11:45] <cpk2> m4x1mum_: i just use kget
[11:45] <wedgeV> and the linux one doenst support alsa?
[11:45] <|Mikael|> wedgeV: will try it
[11:45] <m4x1mum_> hmm is it installed by default?
[11:45] <Carbon_Monoxide> Package unixodbc is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:46] <flaccid> !unixodbc
[11:46] <Smooph> no you can specifie your alternative sound device but I don't know how
[11:46] <ubotu> unixodbc: ODBC tools libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.11-11build1 (dapper), package size 262 kB, installed size 780 kB
[11:46] <wedgeV> if your soundcard only has one playback channel you probably want to configure also to use dmix
[11:46] <wedgeV> alsa
[11:46] <Carbon_Monoxide> perhaps it;s not on the repositories in my list?
[11:46] <Smooph> and i don't think it works something like "/dev/sound/alsa"
[11:46] <wedgeV> Smooph: well, i dont know teamspeak
[11:46] <cpk2> !info unixodbc
[11:46] <flaccid> well its from main, so you have that right?
[11:46] <flaccid> Carbon_Monoxide: does sudo apt-get install unixodbc odbcinst1debian1 work?
[11:47] <m4x1mum_> does kget automatically rename files if the files going to be downloaded have the same filename in the harddisk?
[11:47] <Carbon_Monoxide> !info unixodbc doesn't work
[11:47] <ubotu> unixodbc: ODBC tools libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.11-11build1 (dapper), package size 262 kB, installed size 780 kB
[11:48] <flaccid> Carbon_Monoxide: thats because its for ubotu in this channel
[11:48] <cpk2> m4x1mum_: dont know, I rarely use it really =P
[11:48] <m4x1mum_> ooh ok
[11:48] <Carbon_Monoxide> flaccid: I tried 'sudo apt-get install unixodbc odbcinst1debian1' and got the same result
[11:48] <|Mikael|> wedgeV: lol mplayer hangs (even with killall)
[11:48] <flaccid> !odbcinst1debian1
[11:48] <ubotu> odbcinst1debian1: Support library and helper program for accessing odbc ini files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.11-11build1 (dapper), package size 62 kB, installed size 240 kB
[11:48] <wedgeV> killall -KILL
[11:48] <|Mikael|> it shows broadcast error flags like on tv at midknight
[11:48] <|Mikael|> :)
[11:49] <flaccid> Carbon_Monoxide: is main in your sources?
[11:49] <|Mikael|> wedgeV: Ok. it's gone
[11:49] <wedgeV> |Mikael|: i always use vlc to play dvds
[11:49] <|Mikael|> wedgeV: maybe it doesn't work because i use berel xgl?
[11:50] <|Mikael|> wedgeV: then i will try vlc - kaffeeine did'nt play any sound too
[11:50] <|Mikael|> anyway it try it
[11:50] <wedgeV> well, does anythinh play any sound?
[11:50] <Carbon_Monoxide> yes, main restrictied repostory is in my sources.list
[11:50] <|Mikael|> wedgeV: yes xmms/amarok
[11:51] <cpk2> |Mikael|: does kaffeine or mplayer play sound after amarok/xmms is closed?
[11:52] <cpk2> whoa I just found out that the amarok logo in the toolbar by the clock "empties" the closer to the end of the song you get
[11:52] <flaccid> Carbon_Monoxide: just in case make sure these are in your list. i'll send it to you by pm.
[11:52] <cpk2> I am using more than 1 sound stream at once without any problems...
[11:52] <wedgeV> cpk2: what soundcard?
[11:53] <cpk2> motherboard
[11:53] <|Mikael|> cpk2: no
[11:53] <wedgeV> cpk2: cat /proc/asound/pcm | grep playback
[11:53] <felixjet> where is the Auto Start of kubuntu ?
[11:53] <wedgeV> how many playback channels do you have?
[11:54] <cpk2> 1
[11:54] <wedgeV> do you have  ~/.asound* stuff?
[11:54] <twosouls82> felixjet: for kde's autostart ~/.Autostart
[11:55] <felixjet> i dont have it :S
[11:55] <twosouls82> felixjet: my bad, I meant; ~/.kde/Autostart/
[11:55] <cpk2> wedgeV: nope =D i did absolutely nothing to configure any sound and multiple streams works fine XD
[11:56] <felixjet> twosouls82:  how i add things? placing a lnk ?
[11:56] <twosouls82> felixjet: use konqueror to browse to it, their you can add a link -indeed- using right click -> new link to application
[11:57] <fulat2k> hi folks, i have setup lvm on kubuntu dapper.  i'll be changing my mobo soon.  was wondering if the lvm will stay intact after the upgrade?
[11:57] <twosouls82> s/their/there
[11:57] <felixjet> twosouls82:  ok ty
[11:57] <twosouls82> felixjet: np ;)(
[11:57] <twosouls82> -(
[11:57] <cpk2> twosouls82: so is it odd that I have multiple streams with no problem? =P
[11:58] <Smooph> wedgeV: OK I am testing your asoundrc hope it works thanks cya in a bit
[11:58] <cpk2> twosouls82: oops you werent the one talking to me hahaha
[11:58] <cpk2> =X
[11:58] <twosouls82> :D
[11:59] <wedgeV> cpk2:  can you run several 'aplay'  simultaniously?
[11:59] <wedgeV> cpk2: well, it never worked for me
[11:59] <cpk2> aplay? I can play amarok and kaffeine at the same time
[11:59] <wedgeV> except when using a audigy with 32 playback channels
[11:59] <cpk2> with sound from both
[11:59] <wedgeV> can you try aplay ?
[12:00] <twosouls82> cpk2: aplay does fine
[12:00] <twosouls82> eeeuhm wedgeV I meant
[12:00] <twosouls82> :P
[12:01] <wedgeV> hmm
[12:01] <twosouls82> wedgeV: do you get stdout when trying to use the app with no sound?
[12:01] <wedgeV> sound works for me :)
[12:01] <twosouls82> oops big time :D
[12:01] <wedgeV> but i had to setup dmixer for alsa to get multiple apps playing
[12:02] <ukAdamF> Ok here's an easy one :P
[12:02] <twosouls82> :s wtf, I never needed that wedgeV, in years.. why was that?
[12:02] <twosouls82> does it make sence to you?
[12:02] <ukAdamF> Under Gnome, xchat links open in FireFox. Under KDE, they open in Konq.. how can I change that? ;)
[12:03] <wedgeV> twosouls82: maybe all your apps play through artsd
[12:03] <twosouls82> nope, arts is not installed
[12:03] <wedgeV> twosouls82:  cat /proc/asound/pcm | grep playback
[12:03] <twosouls82> 00-00: VIA 8237 : VIA 8237 : playback 4 : capture 1
[12:03] <twosouls82> 00-01: VIA 8237 : VIA 8237 : playback 1 : capture 1
[12:04] <wedgeV> twosouls82: try playing from more then 4 sources then
[12:04] <twosouls82> hehehe... will try mythtv too
[12:04] <wedgeV> unless dmixer is setup somehow, or you use a audio daemon, it wont work
[12:05] <cpk2> aplay gives me static
[12:05] <cpk2> is there a flag I am supposed to use for mp3s?
[12:05] <cpk2> because -t mp3 didnt work
[12:05] <wedgeV> it only plays wave
[12:05] <twosouls82> cpk2: you will need extra codecs
[12:05] <twosouls82> !mp3
[12:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:06] <wedgeV> do you have mpg123 installed?
[12:06] <cpk2> I have mp3 codecs
[12:06] <cpk2> I play mp3s in amarok
[12:06] <wedgeV> aplay can only play wav
[12:06] <cpk2> wedgeV: the man makes it quite obvious that it plays other formats =P
[12:07] <wedgeV> oh, ok
[12:07] <cpk2> but it looks like it doesnt do mp3 heh
[12:07] <cpk2> wav raw au and something else that i forget
[12:08] <twosouls82> wedgeV: even with 7 apps using sound, the output of 'cat /proc/asound/pcm | grep playback' doesn't change
[12:08] <twosouls82> and all work fine
[12:08] <wedgeV> twosouls82: hmm...
[12:08] <twosouls82> told you
[12:08] <twosouls82> :)
[12:08] <twosouls82> (sorry)
[12:09] <wedgeV> twosouls82: do you have a /etc/asoundrc
[12:09] <cpk2> ok, i found a wav to play while amarok was going and it worked
[12:10] <twosouls82> wedgeV: no; No such file or directory
[12:10] <wedgeV> or ~/.asoundrc ?
[12:10] <wedgeV> cpk2: what output plugin do you use in amarok?
[12:10] <twosouls82> wedgeV: neither
[12:10] <wedgeV> weird indeed
[12:11] <twosouls82> all works out of the box
[12:11] <cpk2> its on autodetect
[12:11] <cpk2> and i dont have any of those files either
[12:11] <twosouls82> cpk2: use the xine engine to be sure
[12:11] <wedgeV> can you try to set it to use alsa?
[12:11] <cpk2> I am using xine engine and then its on auto
[12:11] <twosouls82> cpk2: you don't need them.. works here, without those, so
[12:12] <wedgeV> try xine and alsa
[12:12] <twosouls82> yup indeed
[12:12] <wedgeV> and try playing aplay when playing with amarok
[12:12] <cpk2> its on xine and alsa and playing, turning on aplay...
[12:12] <cpk2> and 2 streams is no problem
[12:12] <wedgeV> doh
[12:12] <twosouls82> :D and more?
[12:13] <cpk2> i started kaffeine too
[12:13] <cpk2> 3 streams and its fine =P
[12:13] <twosouls82> tattaaa
[12:13] <cpk2> and who knows if gaim and konversation still try to tie up the sound even with the sound on them off
[12:14] <twosouls82> cpk2: use alsa whenever you can instead of 'auto', I mean for all apps... and use xine where possible (better sound and threading)
[12:14] <wedgeV> well, i have no idea how thats working for you
[12:14] <cpk2> well, i never bothered configuring the sound stuff on amarok since it "just worked"
[12:14] <twosouls82> hehe
[12:14] <twosouls82> lazy ass
[12:15] <twosouls82> cpk2: alsa and xine take care of it all, no extra config needed mate
[12:15] <Sharketor> hello
[12:15] <Sharketor> a question for you
[12:15] <twosouls82> lo Sharketor
[12:15] <Sharketor> How can I see the hidden files?
[12:15] <cpk2> well not changing it is even better than having to change from "auto" to "alsa"
[12:15] <cpk2> hehe
[12:16] <Sharketor> ctrl-h doesnt work
[12:16] <cpk2> Sharketor: in konq or on a command line?
[12:16] <twosouls82> cpk2: you have oss too, I assume that is auto
[12:16] <Sharketor> konq
[12:16] <wedgeV> cpk2:  can you /msg me your 'aplay -L' output ?
[12:16] <twosouls82> Sharketor: View -> show hidden files
[12:16] <wedgeV> or use that
[12:16] <wedgeV> http://rafb.net/paste/
[12:18] <Sharketor> ok thanks
[12:18] <cpk2> http://rafb.net/paste/results/phQ6cD18.html
[12:18] <cpk2> its pretty long
[12:18] <twosouls82> later ppl
[12:18] <wedgeV> yep
[12:18] <cpk2> twosouls82: whats the difference between oss and alsa?
[12:18] <wedgeV> you have dmixer configured
[12:19] <cpk2> and how do I find out what auto points to?
[12:19] <cpk2> wedgeV: then I guess ubuntu does do it for you =P
[12:19] <wedgeV> yea
[12:19] <wedgeV> but it doesnt for me
[12:19] <cpk2> because I have no clue how to set up dmixer
[12:20] <cpk2> because in fedora only having one stream pissed me off and I finally tried to fix it and never managed to
[12:20] <cpk2> so when it comes to getting multiple streams I am clueless heh
[12:20] <wedgeV> oh, alsa automatically uses dmix now
[12:20] <wedgeV> hmm
[12:21] <wedgeV> maybe it wasnt working for me because of oss apps
[12:21] <wedgeV> cpk2: can you try running 2 instances of mpg123-oss ?
[12:22] <cpk2> wedgeV: eh?
[12:22] <wedgeV> mpg123-oss <mp3file> & mpg123-oss <othermp3file>
[12:23] <morghanphoenix> Any recomendations for a distro to use on this PII I've got sitting here, Kubuntu isn't going to cut it.
[12:24] <cpk2> i dont have mpg123-oss
[12:24] <wedgeV> ok
[12:26] <cpk2> wedgeV: I hope you can figure out how to get 2 streams =\ i remember only having one was pretty annoying/frustrating for me =(
[12:37] <Dsbeerf> hi someone can help me ? i have two sound card and sometime on reboot it switch card how to select default card ?
[12:38] <zen> why do you have 2 sound cards
[12:39] <Dsbeerf> im a mixer music editor i need i to do some job
[12:40] <zen> cool
[12:41] <zen> well as far as i know you need to do it in root so enable root log in and log into root and then change the sound options
[12:41] <zen> there
[12:54] <berkes> what is the best way to find installed packages ordered by size?
[12:55] <berkes> I want to do some house cleaning and want to remove the largest (unused) packages.
[12:58] <Torched_> just buy a new hard drive
[01:03] <nebi> espaol
[01:04] <Lord_Sandman> re
[01:04] <berkes> Torched_: yea. lets just install everything.
[01:04] <Nickste> hi all
[01:05] <reader> HI
[01:05] <Nickste> Can I do this with my kubuntu desktop: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0ZtcxHUSDQ
[01:07] <nebi> como conecto al canal espaol de kubuntu
[01:07] <Nickste> do u have to be registered to post in this channel?
[01:08] <apokryphos> no
[01:08] <apokryphos> Nickste: yes
[01:08] <apokryphos> as in no you don't have to be registered, and yes you can do that with kubuntu
[01:09] <Nickste> ah :)
[01:09] <Nickste> how!?
[01:10] <apokryphos> !xgl
[01:10] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:10] <Nickste> thank you :)
[01:16] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hello guys, hope somebody of you can help me understanding this problem with basic networking: at boot time this error shows up ( the system starts correctly anyway ): http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/Wsg6Ns42.html can anybody help me understanding how to fix it?
[01:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> here it is a copy of my /etc/network/interfaces too: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/AVtm0g20.html
[01:19] <ubuntu> no luck with 6.10 installation hangs after language selection
[01:19] <ubuntu> any ideas, the machine was running 6.06 without any problems
[01:20] <Hobbsee> !logs
[01:20] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[01:21] <Hobbsee> Tallia1Kubuntu: try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart, instead?
[01:22] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Hobbsee: here it is the output: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/NORLyh31.html
[01:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Hobbsee: what do you think?
[01:24] <Hobbsee> Tallia1Kubuntu: want to pastebin /etc/networking/interfaces?
[01:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> [13:22]  <Tallia1Kubuntu> here it is a copy of my /etc/network/interfaces too: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/AVtm0g20.html
[01:26] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Hobbsee: any idea?
[01:27] <Hobbsee> Tallia1Kubuntu: no, sorry.  that all looks fine
[01:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yeah, and you know what it is even more weird?
[01:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> when i go in the networking module with this settings: http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshotos2.png
[01:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and i apply them, or if i write directly ifconfig eth1 10.0.0.9 netmask 255.255.255.0 nothing works
[01:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> while when i go in the wireless setting module and i choose the same settings, everything works fine
[01:31] <Tallia1Kubuntu> when i use dhclient to "refresh" my connection i use to kill all the dhclient processes and then "sudo dhclient eth1 "
[01:31] <Tallia1Kubuntu> in the case of static ip is "ifconfig eth1 10.0.0.9 netmask 255.255.255.0" wrong? considering that is a wireless connection..
[01:32] <ralphben> ello everyone!!
[01:32] <ralphben> anybody has some tricks to speed up the graphics in X when running kubuntu in vmware?
[01:35] <morghanphoenix> x11 libraries or header files could not be found. Make sure x11 development package is installed on your system.
[01:35] <morghanphoenix> What's the package name for x11 development libraries?
[01:36] <sebbar> hello everybody
[01:36] <KrAmMeR> !kmyfirewall
[01:36] <ubotu> kmyfirewall: iptables based firewall configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1214 kB, installed size 4060 kB
[01:36] <crusty> good morning! at least on this side of the world...now on kubuntu need info
[01:37] <sam_> on this side of the world its 2pm
[01:37] <sam_> :D
[01:37] <crusty> sorry! new on cubuntu need help
[01:38] <sebbar> I've got a strange problem on my pc with kubuntu edgy: the master channel of kmix doesn't change the sound volume at all, whereas the PCM channel does. Anybody knows hot to fix this?
[01:38] <crusty> halhallo sam! have you got some time for me?
[01:39] <tn3270> crusty : just ask, someone will jump in hopefully
[01:40] <crusty> ok! i explane the problem anyway
[01:42] <nickste> is there any way to make downloads, from update repositories, multithreaded?
[01:42] <snikker> how can i read a data from ttyS0? i've used minicom but it don't work
[01:45] <nickste> What version of KDE does dapper use?
[01:46] <morghanphoenix> If I just used make on something and want to remove it, how do I?
[01:48] <abattoir> nickste: Dapper shipped w/ KDE 3.5.2
[01:49] <abattoir> nickste: 3.5.4 is the latest available stable release for it
[01:50] <abattoir> morghanphoenix: make clean, i think
[01:50] <morghanphoenix> Thanks, apt-get remove was right out the window on that one.
[01:52] <morghanphoenix> But I did just sucessfully install from source for the first time, so I'm happy even if I have to remove it.
[01:52] <wildchild> how can I check if my drivers for nvidia are allready installed?
[01:52] <nickste> abattoir: does dapper update to 3.5.4?
[01:53] <lunitik> It depends outdated -industrial and -crystal packages... any idea when these deps will be fixed... (and why its depending -industrial at all..)
[01:53] <morghanphoenix> Mine only seems to update to 3.5.3
[01:53] <nickste> hmmm
[01:53] <lunitik> nickste: Riddell probably has packages for 3.5.4 ... its also in Edgy...
[01:54] <nickste> and updating to edgy, from dapper... is it a big download?
[01:54] <lunitik> nickste: yes
[01:54] <nickste> doh :(
[01:54] <Kubu> higi@HIGILINUX:~$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[01:54] <Kubu> FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko': No such file or director
[01:55] <Kubu> anyone knows why it tells me this
[01:55] <abattoir> nickste: yes, it does....
[01:55] <Kubu> ?
[01:55] <lunitik> nickste: it would likely take 40 mins AT LEAST even on cable....
[01:55] <crusty> ok! my linux pc is part of a LAN...and conect to interner through a windows computer. I'm having problen with windows firewall with prevent AMULE to recive HI-ID. What can i do?
[01:55] <abattoir> nickste: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[01:55] <nickste> ta
[01:55] <nickste> and on 384 adsl in south africa?!
[01:55] <abattoir> Kubu: you dont have the ndiswrapper module in that location
[01:55] <lunitik> abattoir: any idea the usplash config file?
[01:55] <Kubu> how do i put it there?
[01:55] <Kubu> i have installed ndiswrapper through synaptic
[01:57] <lunitik> Kubu: dpkg -L ndiswrapper | grep *.ko  .... where does it say it put it?
[01:58] <Kubu> it tells me ndiswrapper is not installed
[01:58] <lunitik> !test
[01:58] <ubotu> Failed.
[01:58] <lunitik> !botslap
[01:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botslap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:59] <abattoir> lunitik: i think you specify the resolution in your menu.lst(grub), not sure though
[01:59] <abattoir> Kubu: make sure you have ndiswrapper-utils and linux-restricted-modules installed
[02:00] <DexterF> hi
[02:00] <lunitik> abattoir: I'm like 90% sure there is a usplash config file someplace actually... with regular ubuntu, it actually disobeys they setting in there... (sets to 1024x768 despite no setting in menu.lst)
[02:00] <DexterF> when I tell Adept to install build-essentials it wants to install "linux-kernel-headers"
[02:00] <DexterF> but 2.6.11-headers. which is wrong. I need 2.6.15-27-k7 headers
[02:01] <abattoir> lunitik: see if you have /etc/usplash.conf
[02:01] <DexterF> whcih are installed. I'm pretty sure they will conflict. what should I do
[02:01] <Kubu> how do i get linux-restricted-drivers, i dunno i have them abattoir
[02:02] <abattoir> DexterF: i think l-k-h is the metapackage, where do you get 2.6.11? dapper shipped with 15
[02:02] <SpentCasing> should i upgrade to dapper? im on breezy now
[02:03] <lunitik> abattoir: dpkg -S /etc/usplash.conf says its not found... but it tab completed, and had contents... weird...
[02:03] <Kubu> ive got them
[02:03] <DexterF> abattoir: how should I know? that's what shows up in Adept.
[02:03] <Kubu> :S
[02:03] <lunitik> abattoir: surely usplash or kubuntu-artwork-usplash should have installed it?
[02:04] <abattoir> Kubu: linux-restricted-modules-<your kernel version> check if you have that installed
[02:04] <abattoir> DexterF: ok, try installing it
[02:05] <Kubu> yes i do
[02:05] <SpentCasing> is ver. 6.06 much better than 5.10? should i upgrade?
[02:06] <abattoir> Kubu: could you check if the ndiswrapper.ko file is present in the mentioned location?
[02:06] <Kubu> its not!
[02:06] <Kubu> oh
[02:06] <[GuS] > Bonjour...
[02:06] <Kubu> actually it is
[02:06] <abattoir> SpentCasing: it has newer versions of software and many bugfixes, so kinda, yes
[02:06] <Kubu> its here
[02:06] <Kubu>  /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/
[02:06] <abattoir> Kubu: could you do a 'uname -r' in a terminal and post the output here?
[02:07] <exceswater> hello guys
[02:07] <exceswater> i need some help from you...
[02:07] <Dendron> hey everyone
[02:07] <exceswater> i have a problem with my kubuntu
[02:07] <SpentCasing> hello
[02:07] <Dendron> When i use this java applet, the sound is scratchy and jittery and not good. How do i tell JAVA to use a specific sound server (ALSA) http://vnes.thatsanderskid.com/
[02:07] <exceswater> when it starts
[02:08] <Dendron> Click english games on top left, then select any game on left. JAva applet loads, loads game ROM, and starts and sound is crap.
[02:08] <DexterF> abattoir: I had it installed. then tried to install vmware-tools which require a build toolchain. it complained about the headers, whereever I pointed it
[02:08] <exceswater> can u help me guys
[02:08] <lunitik> BLAH... it works now on shutdown... but its ignoring the config on startup... still saying it doesn't have an image for 640x480... lame
[02:08] <DexterF> the ones in /usrc/include wouldnt work, the ones in /usr/src/linux/include neither
[02:08] <nickste> how do I get kubuntu to use the fglrx driver that I have just downloaded. (used apt-get to install it)
[02:09] <Kubu> abbatoir
[02:09] <lunitik> !fglrx
[02:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:09] <nickste> thanks
[02:09] <Kubu> abattoir: /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/
[02:10] <lunitik> nickste: just enter 'fglrx' as Driver for video card setting in /etc/X11/xorg.conf though... assuming its loaded...
[02:10] <Kubu> the modprobe looks at 2.6.15-27
[02:10] <lunitik> nickste: thats likely not the prefered way though
[02:10] <Kubu> i mean the other way round
[02:10] <SpentCasing> !sources
[02:10] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:10] <abattoir> DexterF: you are trying to install b-e or l-k-h ?
[02:11] <abattoir> Kubu: what kernel are you running now? where does ndiswrapper look?
[02:11] <abattoir> build-essential
[02:11] <lunitik> ahh
[02:11] <nickste> thanks lunitik
[02:11] <abattoir> lunitik: splash worked?
[02:11] <SpentCasing> what's the site to i can edit my sources list and apt-get dist-upgrade?
[02:12] <lunitik> abattoir: scroll up
[02:12] <abattoir> SpentCasing: what do you want to do exactly?
[02:12] <abattoir> SpentCasing: get a 'fresh' sources.list?
[02:12] <DexterF> abattoir: b-e. dep on that header package
[02:12] <Kubu> ive copied it into the other kernel
[02:12] <lunitik> SpentCasing: what do you want to do?
[02:12] <Kubu> now its working i think
[02:12] <abattoir> Kubu: ugh, it generally doesn't work that way :P
[02:12] <lunitik> SpentCasing: edgy is still development software... if you can't figure out how to install, you probably shouldn't
[02:13] <SpentCasing> abattoir: i cant apt-get dist-upgrade, so im assuming i need to change my list
[02:13] <lunitik> SpentCasing: there is no other reason to dist-upgrade
[02:13] <Kubu> uhm
[02:13] <SpentCasing> im on brezzy 5.10
[02:13] <SpentCasing> *breezy
[02:13] <Moataz> hi
[02:13] <abattoir> SpentCasing: are you trying to upgrade to dapper/edgy?
[02:13] <lunitik> SpentCasing: /etc/apt/sources.list ... all cases of 'breezy' change to 'dapper'
[02:14] <lunitik> abattoir: you think he should be running edgy? heh
[02:14] <abattoir> lunitik: no, i'm asking him what he is trying to do
[02:14] <Moataz> I want to but a DVDRW, Will it be detected automatically after installation? or I need to take certain steps or even reinstall the os?
[02:14] <SpentCasing> abattoir: i just want to upgrade from breezy to dapper
[02:14] <lunitik> Moataz: data dvd's will work ootb
[02:14] <abattoir> Moataz: should be detected
[02:15] <abattoir> !upgrade
[02:15] <lunitik> SpentCasing: see what I just said
[02:15] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:15] <SpentCasing> lunitik: right
[02:15] <abattoir> SpentCasing: ^^^ follow the instructions for breezy->dapper
[02:15] <Moataz> and i will be able to burn discs instanty?
[02:15] <SpentCasing> thanks
[02:15] <morghanphoenix> would a breezy package work right on dapper? Fluxbox specifically.
[02:16] <lunitik> morghanphoenix: unlikely
[02:16] <lunitik> morghanphoenix: do libc's match on dapper and breezy?
[02:16] <Moataz> just for my information, does installing a new cpu requires reinstalling the os also?
[02:16] <morghanphoenix> Unsure, I never used breezy.
[02:16] <BazziR> Moataz: usually not
[02:16] <lunitik> Moataz: no
[02:17] <felixjet> mmmm, how can i see the videos of windows media ? that online videos in the websites
[02:17] <lunitik> BazziR: can you think of a case where the answer would be "yes"?
[02:17] <Moataz> so i only need that if the motherboard fails and i get a new one?
[02:17] <lunitik> felixjet: w32codecs
[02:17] <BazziR> lunitik: going 32->64bit and wanting a 64bit OS ;)
[02:17] <lunitik> Moataz: just swap harddrives... and install a new kernel
[02:17] <abattoir> lunitik: or a new harddisk :P
[02:17] <twosouls82> lunitik: when the new is 64 instead of 32 bit and you want the system to be 64bit
[02:17] <felixjet> lunitik: thats the codec... i need the windows media plugin for firefox
[02:18] <Moataz> lunitik: that for a new cpu or a motherboard?
[02:18] <DexterF> how do I get the file list of a not installed package at the cli?
[02:18] <twosouls82> hehe someone beat me
[02:18] <DexterF> dpkg -c won't work
[02:18] <lunitik> twosouls82: then you will probably just reinstall... sure... but today... 64bit software outside the kernel gives you very little performance difference
[02:19] <lunitik> DexterF: surely its easier to use apt-file to search for the file instead?
[02:19] <DexterF> lunitik: I want the entire content of a package, not a file
[02:20] <twosouls82> lunitik: true and since I don't like the hassle, I have a 32 bit 64 bit sys
[02:22] <lunitik> In almost 6 years... never
[02:22] <DexterF> good for you.
[02:22] <lunitik> DexterF: what are you trying to actually do?] 
[02:23] <twosouls82> dpkg -L <pkname>
[02:23] <lunitik> DexterF: still looking for where ndiswrapper put the file?
[02:23] <DexterF> wanna see where the files of a package would go if I installed it
[02:23] <lunitik> twosouls82: thats for installed packages
[02:23] <twosouls82> true, and he didn't ask that?
[02:23] <twosouls82> my bad
[02:23] <DexterF> huh? ndiswrapper?
[02:24] <twosouls82> DexterF: use http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[02:24] <twosouls82> it has a nice form to query the files
[02:25] <DexterF> I suspect the package to fuck up things if I install it. Look, I just wanna do it, not explain why, ok?
[02:25] <twosouls82> amen DexterF
[02:26] <DexterF> twosouls82: link almost slipped by my attention over this "discussion"... thanks
[02:26] <twosouls82> DexterF: it isn't even a odd question, hence the page ;)
[02:27] <DexterF> its a dapper package?!
[02:27] <Dendron> I anyone else getting garbled sound when running this Ninetendo emulator. This site lets you play NES ROMS from their list. Its sweet. Just sound is messy. Someone check to confirm. http://vnes.thatsanderskid.com/
[02:27] <lunitik> twosouls82: where do I recognize your name from? planetkde perhaps?
[02:27] <twosouls82> heh beats me lunitik
[02:27] <morghanphoenix> I get garbled sound whenever I run anything except for MP3 & DVDs
[02:27] <DexterF> (should mention I only have kub in a vm so I can support friends to whom I recommended it... I usually run Slackware...)
[02:27] <twosouls82> :)
[02:28] <twosouls82> DexterF: rather not tell that :P
[02:28] <DexterF> ;)
[02:28] <Niy_glaedr> !start
[02:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about start - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:29] <twosouls82> DexterF: what was confusing you?
[02:29] <DexterF> twosouls82: me :P I was thinking dapper was 5.10 for a moment. nevermind.
[02:29] <twosouls82> L)
[02:29] <DexterF> still boggles my mind why there's 2.6.11 headers in dapper
[02:29] <DexterF> as, like someone mentioned it was shipped with 2.6.15
[02:30] <lunitik> DexterF: I don't see that site giving me ROM's to download? If you can download them, tried zsnes?
[02:30] <msm> hi all
[02:30] <twosouls82> DexterF: :) dunno, I had 2.6.15 since the start
[02:30] <DexterF> lunitik: ???
[02:30] <msm> Excuse me! Should someone say me how to set Firefox as default browser on kubuntu?
[02:30] <lunitik> DexterF: where did I lose you?
[02:31] <morghanphoenix> snes9xexpress works great.
[02:31] <DexterF> lunitik: ROMs?
[02:31] <DexterF> what?
[02:31] <twosouls82> msm: set it in kcontrol
[02:31] <lunitik> DexterF: game images...
[02:31] <DexterF> what are you on about?
[02:31] <DexterF> (?!??!?!)
[02:31] <Niy_glaedr> '
[02:31] <twosouls82> lunitik: pay attention dude, it was Dendron
[02:31] <lunitik> DexterF: you're trying to use a Nintendo emulator... and don't know about ROM's?
[02:32] <morghanphoenix> Wrong capital D
[02:32] <girl_next_door> hi
[02:32] <twosouls82> may that be the quote of the year "Wrong capital D" :P
[02:33] <twosouls82> hi girl_next_door
[02:33] <girl_next_door> hi2
[02:33] <msm> twosouls82: in which item I can find this setting?
[02:34] <lunitik> msm: KControl > KDE Components > File Assosiations > text > html ... remove Konqi from its list...
[02:34] <twosouls82> kcontrol -> kde components -> component chooser -> web browser
[02:34] <morghanphoenix> what's the diferance between gzip & bzip2?
[02:34] <twosouls82> and don't listen to that lunitik solution
[02:34] <msm> twosouls82: Ok thanks. bye
[02:34] <Dexter_F> ah, great, my ISP fscked up again...
[02:34] <lunitik> morghanphoenix: pretty much everything except its goal
[02:34] <lunitik> twosouls82: your method works... as does mine  :/
[02:35] <twosouls82> lunitik: this IS the way
[02:35] <twosouls82> and he asked for that
[02:35] <twosouls82> not A solution
[02:35] <Dexter_F> msm: in kcontrol, kde components
[02:35] <lunitik> twosouls82: whatever...
[02:35] <morghanphoenix> Trying to install something and I've got two identical packages, except for extension.
[02:36] <lunitik> twosouls82: in kde there is at least 4 ways to do everything... calling your way the right way is idiotic
[02:36] <twosouls82> lunitik: you should join a club that want to discuss things like that
[02:36] <lunitik> twosouls82: both methods change the same config file btw
[02:36] <morghanphoenix> There's only one thing that's always the right way
[02:37] <morghanphoenix> And that's making backups
[02:37] <morghanphoenix> Always the right thing to do
[02:38] <comadore> HI Can somebody tell me how to off X serwer ??
[02:38] <Dexter_F> how to what?
[02:38] <comadore> becouse i can't install NVIDIA drivers
[02:38] <comadore> X.org
[02:38] <lunitik> comadore: /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[02:38] <comadore> ok ;)
[02:38] <lunitik> comadore: stick sudo infront of that
[02:38] <Dexter_F> ah
[02:39] <lunitik> comadore: just to get X going though... can just use 'nv' as video Driver...
[02:39] <lunitik> comadore: won't get you 3d prettiness... but it'll work
[02:40] <comadore> Stopping K Display Manager: kdm not running/etc/init.d/kdm: line 109: kill: (4779) - Operacja niedozwolona
[02:40] <comadore> wjat have i do ?
[02:40] <lunitik> twosouls82: ahh... from your(?) emoticon set...
[02:40] <lunitik> comadore: then X shouldn't be running?
[02:40] <twosouls82> lunitik: might be.. but remember all emoticons are stolen except for the clown
[02:41] <comadore> yes
[02:41] <comadore> X must be off..
[02:41] <comadore> ??
[02:42] <twosouls82> comadore: you could try "/etc/init.d/x11-common stop"
[02:42] <lunitik> twosouls82: works for me... most of my contacts are on MSN... nice to actually see their emoticons... I make my own sets by merging a bunch anyways
[02:42] <lunitik> comadore: ps -e | grep X
[02:42] <twosouls82> lunitik: tell me when you do.. I will remove mine by then
[02:42] <lunitik> comadore: return anything?
[02:43] <lunitik> twosouls82: heh... I don't upload them anywhere... would likely offend lots of people stealing from like 20 sets...
[02:43] <comadore> lutnik  PL ??
[02:43] <lunitik> comadore: what?
[02:43] <twosouls82> lunitik: then let me know, and I will upload it
[02:43] <twosouls82> :D
[02:43] <comadore> hey
[02:43] <lunitik> comadore: did 'ps -e | grep X' return anything?
[02:44] <comadore> if i used command like "xkill" and i push on my background how i can run again ?;/
[02:44] <twosouls82> or even 'pidof X'
[02:44] <lunitik> twosouls82: no, because X isn't the process name  ;)
[02:44] <lunitik> twosouls82: I'm just too lazy to type Xorg
[02:44] <twosouls82> pidof X
[02:44] <twosouls82> 12288
[02:45] <nickste> I'm busy using this guide: http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=20060426000315224  to install XGL and Compiz. I'm getting an error in that it can't find the cgwd package. Any ideas?
[02:45] <lunitik> twosouls82: that shouldn't work... because its not the process name... thats like pidof a returning amaroks process id  :/
[02:46] <twosouls82> pidof Xorg
[02:46] <twosouls82> twosouls82@psycho:~/Compile$
[02:46] <twosouls82> nothing
[02:47] <lunitik> !find cgwd
[02:47] <morghanphoenix> Moment of truth, resetting to see if everything works, glad I have backups just in case.
[02:48] <ubotu> Package/file cgwd does not exist in dapper
[02:48] <lunitik> !search cgwd
[02:48] <ubotu> Found:
[02:48] <lunitik> !find cgwd edgy
[02:48] <ubotu> Package/file cgwd does not exist in edgy
[02:48] <lunitik> hmm
[02:48] <nickste> doh :(
[02:49] <nickste> it says I need these repositories: deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/ dapper main & deb http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main  ... which i have done
[02:49] <twosouls82> lunitik: it IS NOT... don't just tell ppl something... instead look at 'dpkg -L xserver-xorg | grep xorg' and at 'dpkg -L xserver-xorg | grep X' and see the truth
[02:49] <twosouls82> :)
[02:50] <nevena> cao svima
[02:50] <lunitik> twosouls82: ps -e | grep X   :/
[02:51] <twosouls82> lunitik: that is only the formal name of the server... that's why it is stated xorg there
[02:51] <twosouls82> that aren't the binaries names
[02:51] <twosouls82> :D
[02:51] <twosouls82> s/stated/statet
[02:52] <lunitik> nickste: updated after adding?
[02:53] <nickste> yep... just read now on beerorkid that you need to add "main-amd64" on the end of its' repository
[02:54] <fpiadmin> !mail
[02:54] <ubotu> mail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com
[02:54] <fpiadmin> hello !
[02:54] <twosouls82> hi
[02:54] <nickste> lunatik: explain more please
[02:54] <fpiadmin> I am looking for the command line 'mail' command
[02:54] <fpiadmin> in what package is that ??
[02:55] <Dexter_F> fpiadmin: sendmail, I think
[02:55] <fpiadmin> not 'THE' sendmail ?
[02:55] <lunitik> nickste: Xgl feels hackish... AIGLX is more thought out, and is merged into X tree
[02:55] <Dexter_F> fpiadmin: no, the other sendmail
[02:55] <lunitik> fpiadmin: most MTA's link to /usr/bin/sendmail for compatibility reasons
[02:55] <nickste> ok... I'm using this tut: http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=20060426000315224 to get a "pimped" desktop... can I do the same with AIGLX, and if so.. how?
[02:56] <lunitik> fpiadmin: also /usr/bin/mail etc also
[02:56] <fpiadmin> hm apt-get install sendmail installs 'THE' sendmail, I don't need that, just need the 'mail' command
[02:56] <fpiadmin> I am sure it exists outside 'THE sendmail'
[02:56] <khirr> guys
[02:56] <khirr> how can i change my pass since konsole?
[02:57] <fpiadmin> yeah but in (k)ubuntu 6.06 it's not standard avaiable
[02:57] <lunitik> fpiadmin: Compiz is what creates the effects... Xgl and AIGLX are simply backend's providing the ability.
[02:57] <khirr> sudo passwd?
[02:57] <fpiadmin> I just want my script to be able to mail stuff without installing sendsnail
[02:57] <khirr> what is the command to change the pass?
[02:57] <Dexter_F> passwd
[02:57] <Dexter_F> just passwd
[02:57] <flaccid> fpiadmin: you need a local MTA of some sort on linux
[02:57] <khirr> thanks
[02:57] <Dexter_F> meh
[02:57] <lunitik> fpiadmin: postfix and exim both link to sendmail... using 'sendmail' would work... and would use whatever mta you have installed...
[02:58] <lunitik> fpiadmin: ls -l /usr/bin/sendmail and /usr/bin/mail
[02:58] <lunitik> Hmm, actually my Kubuntu box doesn't have that symlink  :/
[02:59] <flaccid> scripts should call sendmail binary and not mail :)
[02:59] <flaccid> it just needs to be a sendmail compatible MTA
[03:01] <fpiadmin> luntik: I have no /usr/bin/sendmail or /usr/bin/mail
[03:01] <fpiadmin> luntik: I apt-get install postifx, but doesn't give mail or sendmail command
[03:01] <lunitik> fpiadmin: install postfix or (prefered mta)
[03:01] <lunitik> fpiadmin: Kubuntu doesn't install one by default apparently
[03:01] <fpiadmin> luntik: I think the 'mail' command is gone since 6.06
[03:01] <fpiadmin> luntik: duh !
[03:02] <Dexter_F> http://www.xkcd.com/c149.html
[03:02] <lunitik> fpiadmin: duh? I think its bad actually... users have to actually pay attention to log files instead of being sent mail about any issues...
[03:03] <lunitik> fpiadmin: not having it listen to external ports is one thing... its useful though
[03:03] <flaccid> fpiadmin: symlink it
[03:03] <khirr> guys
[03:03] <khirr> one more error
[03:03] <khirr> i cant install opera
[03:03] <khirr> say dpkg is using pot other process
[03:03] <khirr> and i dont have other process runing
[03:03] <ce> Hi, i have some trouble to spindown my disk.. i have a thinkpad z61m with sata. Anyone know the problem? hdparm just give errors
[03:04] <khirr> T_T
[03:04] <khirr> ?
[03:04] <fpiadmin> flaccid: symlik it ? as in 'ln -s it mail' ?
[03:05] <khirr> is for 32its version?
[03:05] <lunitik> khirr: sudo pkill dpkg ; sudo dpkg -i opera-whatever.deb
[03:05] <lunitik> fpiadmin: ln -s /usr/bin/postfix /usr/bin/sendmail
[03:05] <fpiadmin> luntik: pay attention to log files ?
[03:05] <khirr> i'll check
[03:05] <lunitik> fpiadmin: umm, yeah
[03:06] <lunitik> fpiadmin: unless you don't care about security and errors etc...
[03:06] <fpiadmin> luntik: I feed them into splunk
[03:06] <fpiadmin> muhahaha
[03:07] <khirr> cant
[03:07] <lunitik> khirr: stick 'sudo' infront and try again
[03:07] <lunitik> wait
[03:07] <khirr> (:(
[03:07] <lunitik> wrong issue....
[03:08] <Dexter_F> lunitik: dude you didn't just recommend someone to kill off dpkg without checking if its doing something critical like upgrading packages or so?
[03:08] <lunitik> khirr: why does it say dpkg doesn't wanna die?
[03:08] <Dexter_F> khirr: stop it
[03:08] <khirr> i dunno
[03:08] <lunitik> Dexter_F: why not? god invented dpkg -f install for a reason  :/
[03:08] <Dexter_F> khirr: you most likely have dpkg running on a console doing something. find it. end it *porperly*
[03:08] <flaccid> fpiadmin: yes
[03:08] <khirr> if i restart, the proccess will die?
[03:09] <Dexter_F> *properly
[03:09] <lunitik> khirr: just do what I said  :/
[03:09] <khirr> i did
[03:09] <khirr> but cant stop
[03:09] <flaccid> heh splunk rules the world. pitty its so expensive
[03:09] <lunitik> khirr: why does it say it can't stop?
[03:09] <khirr> i've closed all konsole
[03:10] <lunitik> khirr: umm... then fire one up and do it again  :/
[03:10] <khirr> i'll restart
[03:10] <khirr> lets see
[03:10] <lunitik> khirr: no need to restart!!!!!!!
[03:11] <lunitik> Dexter_F: If it was doing something important, it would have been done by now... else user would at least KNOW what its doing...
[03:11] <lunitik> Dexter_F: I fail to see the drama in what I recommended? You're new to Debian huh?
[03:12] <Dexter_F> no, I'm new to Kub.
[03:12] <lunitik> Dexter_F: I've used Debian for 6 years... Sid no less... and rarely encounter issues
[03:12] <Dexter_F> a user knowing what he's doing, good one.
[03:13] <lunitik> Dexter_F: user just has to do what I tell them  :/
[03:13] <lunitik> Dexter_F: would be nice if user could actually give feedback so I know whats going on... but can't even do that  :/
[03:13] <flaccid> i think its a good idea to try and send the proper signal first instead of outright killing. imo.
[03:13] <khirr> nice
[03:13] <khirr> this run :D
[03:14] <Dexter_F> besides I learned the hard way not to kill off dpkg or other apps using the package db, but then again - hey, do as you want
[03:14] <lunitik> "Why does it say it can't die" "I'll just restart"... annoying
[03:14] <collin> i installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu and after I login to kde it says "couldn't start kstartupconfig please check installation", any ideas?
[03:15] <flaccid> lunitik: if you cannot end a proces with the correct signal or kill, use kill -9 processname as last resort
[03:15] <lunitik> Dexter_F: dpkg doesn't have a package db like rpm.... its just files in /var/lib/dpkg/info
[03:15] <lunitik> flaccid: no shit... user hadn't even told me the error though... could have just been they didn't use sudo  :/
[03:15] <flaccid> err thats kill -9 pid
[03:16] <Dexter_F> it not really hard to see my point unless you want.
[03:16] <lunitik> Dexter_F: Your point is invalid... I'm trying to enlighten you as to why
[03:17] <Dexter_F> go enlighten me, mr 6-years-deb. (my mom has been driving a car for 25 years and still can't change a spark plug)
[03:18] <flaccid> lunitik: [2006-10-11 00:14]  <lunitik> "Why does it say it can't die" "I'll just restart"... annoying
[03:18] <collin> i installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu and after I login to kde it says "couldn't start kstartupconfig please check installation", any ideas?
[03:18] <lunitik> flaccid: yes.. its annoying because user ignored my question......
[03:18] <khirr> guys, how can i install one file .tar
[03:18] <flaccid> yeah i think khirr is from peru or something. non-english maybe
[03:19] <lunitik> khirr: you don't want to... find a .deb
[03:19] <Dexter_F> pretty big tone recommending people thing based on inaccurate and partly assumed information imo...
[03:19] <lunitik> khirr: or an rpm, and use alien to produce a .deb
[03:19] <khirr> but, is flash
[03:19] <khirr> plugins for opera
[03:19] <Tm_T> !flash
[03:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:19] <flaccid> khirr: you can symlink to the flash plugins with opera
[03:19] <Tm_T> khirr: look those
[03:19] <morghanphoenix> How does one add a newly installed window manager to KDM?
[03:20] <khirr> where?
[03:20] <flaccid> morghanphoenix: if installed from a package, it should come up in the login manager as an option
[03:20] <flaccid> khirr: i look for URL now
[03:20] <morghanphoenix> installed from source
[03:20] <khirr> thanks
[03:21] <flaccid> morghanphoenix: read the doco of the WM
[03:21] <flaccid> there is 1 xorg file to edit to add the entry, but you should read the doco
[03:21] <lunitik> morghanphoenix: where in the Valley are you?
[03:21] <morghanphoenix> eh?
[03:22] <lunitik> morghanphoenix: You're in Phoenix aren't you?
[03:22] <collin> i installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu and after I login to kde it says "couldn't start kstartupconfig please check installation", any ideas?
[03:22] <khirr> how can i put opera as my prefery browser?, i dont wanna use konqueror
[03:22] <morghanphoenix> No, it's my last name
[03:22] <flaccid> khirr: http://www.opera.com/linux/docs/plugins/install/#flash . however if you have flash installed from ubuntu source then you can symlink or just add the plugin dir to opera prefs
[03:22] <lunitik> morghanphoenix: ahh... using Qwest... thought that was a local company mostly...
[03:23] <khirr> i'll check now
[03:23] <morghanphoenix> All over the pacific northwest, can't seem to get anybody but them.
[03:23] <flaccid> morghanphoenix: which window manager?
[03:23] <morghanphoenix> Fluxbox
[03:23] <khirr> thanks for the informatio flaccid
[03:23] <khirr> :D
[03:23] <lunitik> morghanphoenix: why didn't you just install the package?
[03:24] <morghanphoenix> Couldn't find one for dapper
[03:24] <morghanphoenix> only breezy
[03:24] <flaccid> np khirr
[03:24] <lunitik> !find fluxbox
[03:24] <ubotu> Found: fluxbox
[03:24] <Dexter_F> khirr: in kde control center -> components -> browser put "opera -newpage"
[03:24] <flaccid> so which wm is it, morghan?
[03:24] <lunitik> flaccid: flux
[03:24] <morghanphoenix> yeah
[03:24] <flaccid> sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[03:24] <flaccid> !fluxbox
[03:24] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[03:25] <morghanphoenix> I'm gonna have to get new repos
[03:25] <khirr> my menu is in spanish
[03:25] <morghanphoenix> I keep having problems
[03:25] <khirr> ;S
[03:25] <flaccid> is flux, fluxbox?
[03:25] <lunitik> morghanphoenix: 0.9.14 is in dapper universe
[03:25] <lunitik> flaccid: no... its a flux copacitor
[03:25] <khirr> thanks
[03:25] <khirr> i did
[03:25] <flaccid> sick
[03:25] <collin> i installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu and after I login to kde it says "couldn't start kstartupconfig please check installation", any ideas?
[03:26] <Dexter_F> khirr: first row, last item (compenents here)
[03:26] <flaccid> i need a delorian now
[03:26] <lunitik> collin: we saw the first time... and if we knew the answer, we'd have helped you
[03:26] <collin> lunitik: sorry, i thought that no one saw, thanks for replying
[03:26] <Dexter_F> khirr: there left row, last item ("standard components")
[03:27] <lunitik> collin: try back in a few hours or something... maybe someone will be here that is knowledgeable to it...
[03:27] <Dexter_F> there should be an entry about web browser
[03:27] <flaccid> collin: this may help. don't know if its the same issue. google might help further. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?postid=1667054
[03:27] <lunitik> collin: or try #debian-kde (don't tell them its kubuntu though) or #kde... maybe they'll be able to help
[03:27] <khirr> my prefery browser is now opera :D
[03:27] <morghanphoenix> Something is seriously wrong here, packages aren't there when I try it to begin with, then I try again and they're there?
[03:28] <morghanphoenix> apt couldn't find xine the other day
[03:28] <azzco> Hi I'm trying to create a /home partition... I've made the partion But I don't know how to move everything and make ubuntu use my partition from the start...
[03:28] <flaccid> azzco: us /home currently mounted?
[03:28] <flaccid> us=is
[03:28] <lunitik> azzco: make sure the user is assigned the dir... via /etc/passwd
[03:28] <nickste> does one get beryl for kubuntu  64, and ATI?
[03:29] <lunitik> azzco: as for moving data... cp and mv ...
[03:29] <azzco> flaccid you mean my current home or my new partition?
[03:29] <milian> i want to make a notify sound via shell using the program beep but I cant hear nothing :(
[03:29] <lunitik> azzco: (depending what you actually want to do)
[03:29] <flaccid> azzco: which one is it?
[03:29] <flaccid> new or old atm ?
[03:29] <azzco> I'm using home ATM... do I have to do this from a CD or something?
[03:29] <azzco> (using old)
[03:30] <morghanphoenix> I used mount /dev/hdb1 /home
[03:30] <nickste> !find beryl
[03:30] <morghanphoenix> that's all
[03:30] <ubotu> Package/file beryl does not exist in dapper
[03:30] <morghanphoenix> but I was working with a fresh install
[03:30] <flaccid> azzco: is your new partition blank and you need to copy the files first?
[03:30] <azzco> flaccid yes
[03:30] <flaccid> azzco: is the new partition mounted yet?
[03:30] <azzco> yes in "/newhome"
[03:31] <khirr> this RUN :D
[03:31] <khirr> i have flash suport now :D
[03:31] <flaccid> azzco: ok. what fs is the new partition?
[03:31] <flaccid> khirr: congrats
[03:31] <azzco> fs? o.O
[03:31] <khirr> like linux :D
[03:31] <flaccid> filesystem
[03:31] <azzco> ext3, flaccid
[03:31] <flaccid> sweet
[03:32] <flaccid> first do a sudo cp -R /home/* /newhome
[03:32] <flaccid> when its copied, unmount /newhome
[03:33] <fpiadmin> thx bye !
[03:33] <flaccid> then change your /etc/fstab for /home to the new /dev/hd$
[03:33] <flaccid> fpiadmin: cya
[03:33] <flaccid> then umount /home
[03:33] <khirr> guys, i wanna use "wine", what is the repository to can do it?
[03:33] <collin> i'm new to irc, how do i exit a channel?
[03:33] <flaccid> then sudo mount -a to remount all parts in /etc/fstab
[03:33] <flaccid> collin: /part or /part #channel
[03:33] <flaccid> !wine > khirr
[03:34] <collin> thanks
[03:34] <azzco> thx flaccid I'll try
[03:34] <flaccid> cool. hope you understand what the process is about
[03:34] <khirr> to can download with adept, what is the line that i should add
[03:34] <khirr> ?
[03:34] <flaccid> the package is called wine
[03:35] <flaccid> !wine
[03:35] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:35] <flaccid> um
[03:35] <flaccid> can't remember which source. can you select and install it in adept?
[03:35] <azzco> don't use the ubuntu repo
[03:35] <azzco> I'll check source
[03:36] <Dexter_F> abattoir: still around? I checked back my sources.list, all dapper. the headers are 2.6.11 for reasons beyond me.
[03:36] <milan> hey i want to listen to a online radio station, but rythmbox or xmms won't open it
[03:36] <flaccid> good question i'd like to know. how do you check which source a package is from?
[03:36] <milan> i think it's a codec issue but the wiki is offline
[03:37] <azzco> "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main" there's the repo from winehq.com
[03:37] <flaccid> thats it
[03:38] <abattoir> Dexter_F: that's weird...
[03:38] <azzco> BTW flaccid you wtoe /home/* you meant the * as the account name right? it's taking alot of time but I guess that my /home has grown a bit...
[03:39] <khirr> just i need wine to can run my exes files?
[03:39] <abattoir> flaccid: 'apt-cache madison <package>' ?
[03:39] <khirr> not need library?
[03:39] <azzco> khirr yes
[03:39] <khirr> where can i download these librarys?
[03:40] <flaccid> azzco: it will take time. you could of used the -v switch to see each file copying. before you unmount /newhome check that /newhome is correct.
[03:40] <azzco> khirr: you might have to add a .DLL or too to windows/system32 but else you should be able to run an exe with "wine *.exe"
[03:40] <flaccid> abattoir: thats sweet thanks mate
[03:40] <khirr> uhmm
[03:41] <flaccid> wine also appears to be in univserse. wine | 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 | http://au.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages
[03:41] <khirr> yestarday i installed wine, but in AMD64 version, but doesnt run, told me install 32 bits version, that i did, but i remember install both library
[03:42] <azzco> flaccid it's recomended to download from winehq
[03:42] <flaccid> ok
[03:42] <flaccid> that version is  wine | 0.9.22~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06-1 | http://wine.budgetdedicated.com dapper/main Packages
[03:43] <thompa> !nvidia
[03:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:43] <flaccid> well thats what i get with apt-cahce
[03:43] <sF|Xemanth^> any guys using dapper x64 + ati fglx ?
[03:43] <flaccid> i have the winehq one installed
[03:43] <khirr> wow, lots librarys
[03:43] <azzco> I'll be AFK a while... I'll try to see how the new /home partion has turned out when I'll get back THX for the help flaccid
[03:44] <flaccid> ok cool
[03:49] <visik7> he
[03:49] <visik7> y
[03:50] <visik7> anyone with kde3.5.2 ?
[03:50] <[GuS] > people, there is a way to add auto. a Windows boot to the grub?
[03:50] <visik7> anyone with kde3.5.2 can go to amazon.com and tell me if it possible to see the page ?
[03:50] <flaccid> !grub [GuS] 
[03:50] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 353 kB, installed size 748 kB
[03:50] <[GuS] > flaccid, i've ask about doing that
[03:51] <[GuS] > not about grub...
[03:51] <[GuS] > i know how to add my hand
[03:51] <[GuS] > i am just askin if there is a auto. way...
[03:51] <flaccid> oh like a gui frontend?
[03:51] <[GuS] > no flaccid
[03:51] <[GuS] > to add the lines inside menu.list...
[03:52] <flaccid> what do you mean by auto?
[03:52] <[GuS] > automatically (auto.)
[03:52] <[GuS] > 
[03:53] <flaccid> sorry i dont understand
[03:53] <KDEfanboy> visik7: try #ubuntu next
[03:53] <[GuS] > bueh...
[03:53] <DarkWizzard> guys http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26160/
[03:53] <KDEfanboy> i'd try if i had 3.5.2
[03:53] <[GuS] > again... i am askin for a way to add automatically the boot of WinXP on the grub menu list...
[03:54] <flaccid> so who does the adding?
[03:54] <flaccid> or what
[03:54] <DarkWizzard> sudo grub-update
[03:54] <DarkWizzard> if I remeber good
[03:55] <[GuS] > flaccid, when you install Ubuntu after a windows, it does
[03:55] <DarkWizzard> or smth like that
[03:55] <flaccid> i understand
[03:55] <[GuS] > so.. i want to know wich is the command
[03:55] <flaccid> DarkWizzard ^^
[03:55] <Tm_T> oh my...
[03:55] <flaccid> shmm i don't have that
[03:55] <[GuS] > that commmand does not exist DarkWizzard ..
[03:56] <DarkWizzard> wait then
[03:56] <flaccid> sudo update-grub
[03:56] <DarkWizzard> that then
[03:56] <DarkWizzard> :D
[03:56] <flaccid> worked for me then
[03:56] <flaccid> nice DarkWizzard
[03:56] <[GuS] > that yes, but that really take in count all partitions?
[03:56] <[GuS] > it think not
[03:57] <[GuS] > i think first must play with devices.map
[03:57] <flaccid> hmm sorry i don't know
[03:57] <[GuS] > and then execute that command
[03:57] <[GuS] > i will try later...
[03:57] <DarkWizzard> guys
[03:57] <DarkWizzard> does anyone have an ideea about this problem
[03:58] <DarkWizzard> ?
[03:58] <DarkWizzard>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26160/
[03:58] <[GuS] > lets see
[03:58] <[GuS] > Danker_,
[03:58] <[GuS] > DarkWizzard, *
[03:58] <[GuS] > that is not a problem
[03:58] <[GuS] > LInux uses all memory as cache
[03:58] <DarkWizzard> is that normal ?
[03:58] <DarkWizzard> yeah but
[03:58] <DarkWizzard> shouldn't it write to a swap partition
[03:59] <DarkWizzard> I checked it on other systems
[03:59] <[GuS] > and the releases when is using it
[03:59] <DarkWizzard> and it wasn't 0
[03:59] <exceswater> hi all
[03:59] <exceswater> can any1 help me with a kubuntu start problem ?
[03:59] <DarkWizzard> could you please paste your output to sudo cat /proc/meminfo |grep Swap
[03:59] <[GuS] > i always have low free memory.... and from what i know... Linux uses it all.. for a fast access when is needed
[03:59] <DarkWizzard> ok I understand that
[03:59] <abattoir> exceswater: what's the problem?
[03:59] <exceswater> hi abattoir
[03:59] <flaccid> [GuS] : thats normal
[04:00] <DarkWizzard> but it should use swap
[04:00] <[GuS] > of course
[04:00] <[GuS] > is normal
[04:00] <flaccid> i have 8mb free atm
[04:00] <richardh_> Hello everyone....I'm trying to connect my notebook to a TV to watch DVDs...anyone know how to do this properly?
[04:00] <abattoir> exceswater: hello
[04:00] <DarkWizzard> ok but my problem is this
[04:00] <DarkWizzard> SwapTotal:           0 kB
[04:00] <flaccid> only 192mb swap used
[04:00] <DarkWizzard> SwapFree:            0 kB
[04:00] <DarkWizzard> SwapCached:          0 kB
[04:00] <exceswater> it seems like everytime i start my pc the settings wizzards keeps ask about some things
[04:00] <DarkWizzard> is this normal ?
[04:00] <[GuS] > yes. why not?
[04:00] <exceswater> like language, location, the appearance
[04:00] <[GuS] > ha much ram do you have?
[04:00] <DarkWizzard> 256
[04:01] <exceswater> it seems like it doesn't remember the settings
[04:01] <exceswater> why ?
[04:01] <[GuS] > mm
[04:01] <azzco> flaccid: the copy was succesful but some files are owned by root now...
[04:01] <abattoir> exceswater: kpersonalizer?
[04:01] <flaccid> [GuS] : what you got for more /etc/fstab | grep -i swap
[04:01] <[GuS] > seems like your swap is not working...
[04:01] <flaccid> azzco: thats weird
[04:01] <[GuS] > flaccid, ?
[04:01] <DarkWizzard> yeah
[04:01] <flaccid> oops i meant that for DarkWizzard
[04:01] <DarkWizzard> thats what I suspect to
[04:01] <exceswater> something like that
[04:01] <DarkWizzard>  /dev/hda7 none swap sw 0 0
[04:02] <[GuS] > DarkWizzard, like is disabled.. or have not assigned some space for it
[04:02] <DarkWizzard> I looked in gparted
[04:02] <[GuS] > you have swap part?
[04:02] <exceswater> yes abattoir
[04:02] <DarkWizzard> and it says unknown filesystem for it
[04:02] <exceswater> kpersonalizer
[04:02] <DarkWizzard> yeah I have
[04:02] <exceswater> is starting everytime
[04:02] <[GuS] > so... thats the problem
[04:02] <abattoir> exceswater: open kate as root, 'kdesu kate /usr/bin/startkde'
[04:02] <DarkWizzard> but it was done when I installed breezy
[04:02] <[GuS] > and in /etc/fstab.. what do you have in swap line?
[04:03] <abattoir> exceswater: look for 'kpersonalizerrc General FirstLogin true'
[04:03] <DarkWizzard>  /dev/hda7 none swap sw 0 0
[04:03] <DarkWizzard> thats all
[04:03] <nikkiana> hey.... does anyone know if there's a better HTML editor/text pad type program for Linux other than Bluefish?
[04:03] <abattoir> exceswater: change true to false, and save that file
[04:03] <[GuS] > thats ok DarkWizzard  indeed
[04:03] <[GuS] > but try to format again the swap part
[04:03] <DarkWizzard> how
[04:03] <DarkWizzard> in qparted ?
[04:03] <[GuS] > yes
[04:03] <DarkWizzard> as linux swap
[04:03] <[GuS] > Q or Gparted
[04:03] <n8k99> nikiana: i like to use kate but you can also try Quanta
[04:03] <[GuS] > yes
[04:03] <abattoir> nikkiana: you want a full blown Web Dev env?
[04:03] <[GuS] > first
[04:03] <DarkWizzard> does it need a mount point ?
[04:04] <Dexter_F> abattoir: heh. weird. the build script now looked for the headers in /lib/modules/2.6.15-17... and it worked. never would have looked there in the first place and I'm totally clueless why it now sees them. but alright.
[04:04] <[GuS] > do mount | grep swap
[04:04] <[GuS] > be sure is not mounted
[04:04] <flaccid> DarkWizzard: what ya got for sudo fdisk -l | grep -i swap
[04:04] <[GuS] > (but for sure, is not)
[04:04] <DarkWizzard>  /dev/hda7            7801        7873      586341   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[04:04] <exceswater> abattoir:
[04:04] <abattoir> Dexter_F: well, it worked, so best not to worry about it :P
[04:04] <exceswater> it says it cannot connect to X server abattoir] 
[04:04] <flaccid> [GuS] : swap is mount none. not shown in mount
[04:04] <DarkWizzard> I see
[04:04] <Dexter_F> abattoir: totally againt my nature but I'll try that for a change :)
[04:05] <DarkWizzard>  /dev/hda7            7801        7873      586341   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[04:05] <DarkWizzard> Is this ok ?
[04:05] <khirr> guys
[04:05] <n8k99> hi khirr
[04:05] <khirr> one program to can open my msn?
[04:05] <khirr> ello
[04:05] <[GuS] > so in gparted tells you unknow?
[04:05] <khirr> but not be gaim, kopete or aMSN
[04:05] <DarkWizzard> khirr: kopete,gaim
[04:05] <DarkWizzard> yeah it does
[04:05] <khirr> but, dont like..
[04:05] <[GuS] > thats weird
[04:05] <khirr> are ugly (:
[04:05] <n8k99> khirr: your msn email account or your instant messenger
[04:05] <[GuS] > try then to format
[04:06] <khirr> messenger
[04:06] <abattoir> exceswater: you dont see a kate window being launched?
[04:06] <shriphani> heya talking from fluxbox
[04:06] <DarkWizzard> can I mess up things to badly ?
[04:06] <flaccid> its fairly small number of cyls but yeah
[04:06] <[GuS] > at least it seems it not in use.. by showing you 0mb
[04:06] <shriphani> i actually like it
[04:06] <n8k99> khirr: you can get new themes for all those im clients
[04:06] <[GuS] > nop
[04:06] <exceswater> no
[04:06] <abattoir> Dexter_F: i'm guessing you did not have the headers installed for your current kernel version...
[04:06] <[GuS] > DarkWizzard, if you afraid
[04:06] <[GuS] > do that with Live CD
[04:06] <khirr> but, i wanna see them for exameple for email acc, and in kopete i cant
[04:06] <exceswater> it says it cannot conect to x server
[04:06] <[GuS] > (dapper live for example)
[04:06] <[GuS] > that comes with Qtparted
[04:07] <n8k99> khirr: you want to be able to send an email to a contact from kopete?
[04:07] <khirr> no
[04:07] <shriphani> kde is trying to be osx isnt it ?
[04:07] <flaccid> yeah check the start and end in fdisk on the live boot for a start
[04:07] <[GuS] > shriphani,  ??
[04:07] <n8k99> khirr: what is it you are trying to do?
[04:07] <DarkWizzard> ok I'll try formating it
[04:07] <khirr> i wanna see my contac list for email, not for name to show
[04:07] <n8k99> i see
[04:07] <shriphani> [GuS] , what ?
[04:07] <abattoir> exceswater: ok, go to /usr/bin in konqueror, right click starkde and select 'Edit as Root'
[04:07] <Dexter_F> abattoir: possible I booted -386 instead of -k7, yes. tho 386 headers were installed, too. well, ok, I got it cleaned up and can scan...
[04:08] <[GuS] > shriphani, kde its own style
[04:08] <exceswater> done
[04:08] <exceswater> thanks mate :d
[04:08] <exceswater> it was anoying
[04:08] <n8k99> you can link the contact list in kopete to your contacts in Kontact, khirr
[04:08] <abattoir> exceswater: :)
[04:08] <[GuS] > did you look into Plasma? Oxigen icons shriphani ?
[04:08] <khirr> no no, thats no the problem
[04:08] <[GuS] > is the next kde look
[04:08] <n8k99> khirr and you can chose to display the name as your contacts appear in you addressbook instead of msn
[04:08] <shriphani> [GuS] , nope
[04:08] <n8k99> khirr: ok
[04:08] <shriphani> could you gimme a link
[04:09] <khirr> how?
[04:09] <khirr> how?'???
[04:09] <[GuS] > http://www.oxygen-icons.org/ - http://plasma.kde.org/
[04:09] <khirr> i wanna see kopete list contacts for email
[04:09] <n8k99> khirr: right click on the contact in your buddy list, select properties
[04:10] <khirr> ok
[04:10] <khirr> then?
[04:10] <n8k99> khirr: then change the address book link for that contact
[04:10] <khirr> no there is opt to email
[04:10] <khirr> just to put the name that i want
[04:11] <khirr> are about 200 contacts...hard work
[04:11] <LjL> what's the correct way to make yourself invisible on kopete (jabber network) to a signle contact?
[04:11] <n8k99> khirr: yes I know, I haven't ofund a better way to link them but when I am in Kmail and get an email from someone, it tells me if they are availbel for chat
[04:12] <khirr> where can i download kmail?
[04:13] <n8k99> khirr: do you have kontact?
[04:13] <qkr> hi
[04:13] <n8k99> khirr: it should be included in kubuntu
[04:13] <khirr> nop
[04:13] <flaccid> khirr: if not open your favourite package manager and install package kmail
[04:13] <n8k99> khirr: what is teh default email client you have?
[04:14] <n8k99> flaccid: thanks
[04:14] <flaccid> its in main
[04:14] <khirr> no one
[04:14] <flaccid> interesting
[04:14] <flaccid> don't know where that went
[04:15] <flaccid> yeah totally
[04:15] <qkr> when I start Adept Manager I get this message "You will not be able to change system settings, because another process is using the packaging system database". What to do?
[04:15] <abattoir> !adept crash fix
[04:15] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[04:15] <abattoir> qkr: ^^^^^
[04:15] <n8k99> that's part of what makes kubuntu K_ubuntu
[04:15] <qkr> thanks
[04:16] <abattoir> qkr: execute the first command in a terminal
[04:17] <exceswater> abattoir
[04:18] <exceswater> another question
[04:18] <exceswater> i have installed some things from adept
[04:18] <abattoir> exceswater: sure
[04:18] <exceswater> and i cannot find them on menu
[04:18] <exceswater> on games
[04:18] <exceswater> i have to mention that i am kinda noob
[04:18] <abattoir> exceswater: you installed them now?
[04:18] <exceswater> few mins ago
[04:18] <abattoir> exceswater: did you restart KDE after installation?
[04:18] <abattoir> exceswater: ok, fine
[04:18] <exceswater> yes
[04:19] <abattoir> exceswater: oh, it doesnt show up after you restart KDE?
[04:19] <exceswater> nope
[04:19] <abattoir> exceswater: ok wait
[04:19] <exceswater> and before i had same problem
[04:19] <exceswater> and i still have
[04:19] <abattoir> exceswater: run 'kbuildsycoca --incremental' in a terminal
[04:19] <exceswater> some games and things installed in adept never show up
[04:20] <exceswater> error : no database available
[04:20] <abattoir> exceswater: ignore that
[04:20] <abattoir> exceswater: see if the menu has been updated
[04:21] <exceswater> not really
[04:22] <qkr> I want to install apache and php, anything I need to know or just select packages in adept and go?
[04:22] <abattoir> !lamp
[04:22] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[04:22] <abattoir> qkr: ^^^ that might help
[04:23] <qkr> thanks
[04:23] <qkr> I have already installed mysql
[04:24] <exceswater> why i cannot see installed things ?
[04:24] <abattoir> exceswater: in the menu?
[04:24] <exceswater> yes abattoir
[04:24] <exceswater> and nowhere
[04:24] <exceswater> i dunno where to look for them
[04:24] <abattoir> exceswater: which app is this?
[04:25] <exceswater> for example: robotour
[04:25] <n8k99> execswater: alt+f2 then type robotour in the input field
[04:26] <Hawkwind> n8k99: I believe he's trying to get the app to show in his menus
[04:26] <Hawkwind> Which is what abattoir is helping him with
[04:26] <daka_> how to reorganize repositories??.re-install..not working well now
[04:26] <exceswater> yes Hawkwind
[04:26] <abattoir> hi Hawkwind :)
[04:26] <exceswater> and robotour is not the only thing that i cannot find
[04:26] <Hawkwind> daka_: You can edit your /etc/apt/sources.list manually
[04:26] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Good morning
[04:26] <n8k99> Hawkwind: isn't there an applet that helps add non-kde items to teh menu
[04:27] <n8k99> or a script
[04:27] <daka_> hawkwind... I tried using other peoples's suggestions but did not work
[04:27] <exceswater> also gnurobot
[04:28] <Hawkwind> n8k99: He could run kmenuedit and add them manually
[04:32] <mambru> Hi! I updated from dapper to edgy and almost everything seems to work fine. The only problem comes with the storage media option of system menu, now it limits itself to open the /media dir instead of the media:/ kioslave, and i can't mount partitions from konqueror, anybody had the same problem?
[04:32] <azzco> flaccid: are you still there?
[04:35] <flaccid> yeah barely
[04:35] <crusty__> hallo!     help is required..how to make kubuntu see my USB PC webcamera SN0C105
[04:35] <azzco> okay I'm about to edit my fstab... but I'm not sure if I might screw anything up...
[04:36] <azzco> <mount point> for my new partition should be /home right, flaccid?
[04:36] <abattoir> mambru: /media is 'feature' rather than a 'problem' ;)
[04:36] <flaccid> yep
[04:36] <abattoir> !webcam
[04:36] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:36] <abattoir> crusty__: ^^^^ that might help
[04:36] <azzco> okay that's what I needed to hear :)
[04:37] <thompa> !grub
[04:37] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:37] <mambru> abattoir: so, how am I supposed to mount my vfat partition from konqueror, I don't mind calling mount manually, but I guess that's not the user-friendly way...
[04:38] <abattoir> mambru: you should have an option to mount in /media
[04:38] <thompa> is there a simple way to reinstall grub to the other hard drive?
[04:38] <crusty__> thank you very much...see what i can find...thanks again abattoir
[04:38] <abattoir> crusty__: no problem :)
[04:39] <Pompeio> Hello.
[04:39] <abattoir> mambru: you don't when you rt. click on the partition/drive?
[04:39] <mambru> abattoir: I fear I don't :-), not at least on the context menu
[04:39] <abattoir> mambru: is this a usb drive?
[04:39] <abattoir> i mean a usb flash drive?
[04:39] <thompa> neverming found section changing disk drub is installed to
[04:39] <mambru> abattoir: no, the windows partition
[04:40] <mambru> abattoir: but it happens with all partitions or media
[04:40] <thompa> if grub wont work well with sata , so it has to go on my IDE drive
[04:40] <mambru> abattoir: has happened with 2 dapper's i updated to edgy, and one fresh edgy install from last week
[04:40] <mambru> abattoir: maybe the spanish locales are causing the problem
[04:40] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hey buddies!? do you remember how is called the opensource firmware for routers ?
[04:41] <abattoir> mambru: i dont think so...
[04:41] <abattoir> mambru: i dont seem to have it too...
[04:42] <mambru> abattoir: :-) I've been searching for related bugs, but I didn't manage to find any
[04:42] <abattoir> mambru: on launchpad?
[04:42] <mambru> abattoir: yes
[04:44] <abattoir> mambru: i think it doesnt show because you'd need root privileges to mount it.... ?
[04:47] <mambru> abattoir: the user flag is set on fstab, plus the user belongs to the disk group
[04:47] <abattoir> mambru: ok, that wasn't the case here, so i thought of that
[04:47] <abattoir> mambru: because usb disks / cdroms work fine here
[04:49] <mambru> abattoir: running konqueror as root didn't show any mount option
[04:49] <abattoir> mambru: that might be because the mediamanager might not be running
[04:50] <mambru> abattoir: is that kded?
[04:50] <abattoir> mambru: i dont think its a part of kded, not sure though
[04:50] <phoenix_> wow, this is wierd
[04:51] <phoenix_> irc in konsole
[04:52] <hyper> hello abattoir :)
[04:52] <abattoir> hi hyper :)
[04:52] <hyper> hello trappist :)
[04:52] <intelikey> phoenix nothing wierd about that.         i have on gui running at all, about 90% of the time.
[04:52] <hyper> abattoir: you remember I asked you about streaming mp3 through ssh?
[04:52] <abattoir> hyper: no, i dont :P
[04:53] <hyper> abattoir: don't worry... I solved it now with gnump3d
[04:53] <trappist> hyper
[04:53] <mambru> abattoir: do you know which process name should i be looking for? (the name of the media manager process)
[04:54] <abattoir> mambru: no, that should be running as regular user, i meant for root
[04:54] <collin> why is it when I am running kde 900 mb of memory are used up and when I run gnome only 200 mb are used?
[04:54] <mambru> abattoir: oh, ok
[04:55] <mambru> collin: check the memory with the free command, it is more realistic
[04:55] <intelikey> hald ?
[04:55] <collin> mambru: it says that 974 mb are used
[04:56] <collin> xorg itself used like 280
[04:56] <mambru> collin: that is because xorgs maps the card's memory onto its process space
[04:57] <Hawkwind> collin: Linux handles memory completely different than Windows.  So most of it is probably cached which makes your system run faster as it's got stuff preloaded into memory
[04:57] <intelikey> you are reading the allocated (buffered) usage.  the real usage collin x uses about 5m iirc
[04:57] <mambru> collin: the -/+ buffers/cache line of free is what you should trust
[04:58] <collin> mambru: okay, then what is the mem line for
[04:58] <mambru> abattoir: I understood correctly that you were having the same problem I have?
[04:59] <abattoir> mambru: well, i can't see 'Mount' for hdd partitions, i see them for CD drives and usb flash drives
[04:59] <collin> with the -/+ buffers/cache line it say it is using 237 mb
[04:59] <mambru> collin: that includes cached files among other things that the kernel will ditch as soon as the memory is needed. It keeps them to minimize disk use
[05:00] <mambru> disk use -> disk access
[05:00] <intelikey> kubuntu will run in 64M of ram with no swap.   (not advised to do this.)
[05:01] <mambru> abattoir: I'll try a CD, and see if it works
[05:01] <collin> mambru: so the buffers/cache is what is really being used? and the Mem line is what?
[05:02] <mambru> collin: I believe it's total memory used by programs + libraries (maybe duped) + buffers/cache
[05:02] <intelikey> collin the mem line is what is being used.  just most of it is blank.   it's allocated for use by...  but empty.
[05:03] <collin> does gnome do the same? or is this just kde's way of speeding things up?
[05:04] <v3ctor> it is a linux thing..not gnome/kde
[05:04] <intelikey> and if you had 1000 G of ram  (and the kernel supporte that much) linux would use about 90% of the ram just to run kde/gnome/whatever.
[05:04] <intelikey> collin yes.  linux does that. not the DE
[05:05] <v3ctor> you can run linux without a DE and see the same thing
[05:05] <intelikey> but you would still have 999.9 G of free ram.
[05:05] <intelikey> yes indeed. v3ctor
[05:05] <Manyfold_> kde is so dam slow what can i do to speed things up?
[05:05] <collin> maybe the system moniters for gnome and kde are different, because ksysguard says memory used is 972 mb and in system info program in gnome say that mem used is 217 mb
[05:05] <intelikey> Mem:        255220      24016     231204          0        928      12676
[05:05] <intelikey> no gui running ^
[05:06] <mambru> abattoir: cd's (and usb drives I guess) work fine. I guess the problem started when I added noauto to my hdd partitions. In dapper it was possible and worked fine. I prefer that behaviour since in case of crash, only the mounted partitions would be left in inconsistent state
[05:06] <intelikey> but that's not the typical setup either.
[05:06] <v3ctor> the Mem free is physical memory, it is almost allocated imediatly into buffers and cache so it can beeasily accessed by the kernel
[05:07] <v3ctor> which is why we look at the buffer/cache to see what is actually being used at the time
[05:07] <collin> doesn't anyone know of a fix for phoenix bios hot keys on a toshiba labtop so i can change the screen brightness?
[05:07] <cplctfd> hi everyone
[05:09] <cplctfd> does anyone know where to find gnome themes? other than gnome-look
[05:10] <abattoir> cplctfd: try asking at #ubuntu :P
[05:10] <abattoir> mambru: i dont use noauto, so its not a problem for me, unless i manually unmount it, i still prefer 'mount' though ;)
[05:10] <Hawkwind> cplctfd: art.gnome.org ?
[05:10] <cplctfd> thx
[05:11] <intelikey> collin if you can get the key code then the app loadkeys can fix it.  but you will need the code you get and the code you want it to be....   i.e.  echo 'keycode 125 = Decr_Console' | loadkeys   <--- that sets the left winkey to do what alt+left-arrow does. in the console.   btw have you tried using the hot keys in the console to see if they work there ?
[05:11] <mambru> abattoir: I guess it can't be considered a flaw then. Out of the box works fine.
[05:12] <abattoir> mambru: well, i'd personally say it is a flaw...
[05:12] <abattoir> mambru: try filing a bug and see what the response is ;)
[05:13] <intelikey> they'll prolly just say "use pmount"
[05:13] <collin> intelikey: in the konsole, the hotkeys just make a ~
[05:13] <intelikey> mot konsole.  console.
[05:14] <intelikey> ctrl+alt+f1
[05:14] <TheGateKeeper> any kubuntu desktop devs in here?
[05:15] <intelikey> me realizes that if that's the first time he has pressed ctrl+alt+f1  he will probably reboot to get back to the gui....
[05:15] <intelikey> /
[05:15] <TheGateKeeper> intelikey: Ctrl + alt + f7
[05:16] <abattoir> TheGateKeeper: there are, you might get their attention at #kubuntu-devel , what do you need?
[05:16] <intelikey> TheGateKeeper heh only on a default system  :)
[05:17] <intelikey> yep there he went.
[05:17] <TheGateKeeper> abattoir: I am curious to know how they get a reasonable clean desktop with kde, when I have a go on other distros I seem to get a load of stuff I don't really want
[05:17] <intelikey> maybe i should hide now.
[05:18] <abattoir> TheGateKeeper: what do you mean? remove the icons from the desktop?
[05:18] <m4x1mum> how to append mp3 file to xmms?
[05:19] <m4x1mum> enqueue mp3 file
[05:19] <octan> omg
[05:19] <mambru> abattoir: I'll try to file a bug
[05:19] <abattoir> m4x1mum: click on the + button, the file open dialog should come up, then choose the file
[05:19] <abattoir> (if i remember xmms right ;) )
[05:20] <octan> engage brain :P
[05:20] <TheGateKeeper> abattoir: well when I install KDE I seem to get a lot of apps I don't want, I may be get 3 different text editors for instance, just seem to get a cluttered menu system, with kubuntu I like the menu layout
[05:20] <m4x1mum> erm not from xmms but is it possible to do it like windows? double-click the mp3 and it will automatically enqueue the file
[05:21] <abattoir> TheGateKeeper: yes, the devs put in a lot of hard work to make kubuntu clean and usable ;)
[05:22] <TheGateKeeper> abattoir: I was wouldering the stuff was all there, they just modify the menus, or if they manage to selectively install applications
[05:22] <pielgrzym> !pastebin
[05:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:23] <m4x1mum> anyone use krusader?
[05:23] <abattoir> TheGateKeeper: if i understand how it works correctly, only necessary applications are packaged, and, the devs include custom settings/menu entries etc.
[05:24] <abattoir> TheGateKeeper: kubuntu-default-settings is a package which controls many of KDE's configurations...
[05:24] <abattoir> !info kubuntu-default-settings
[05:24] <ubotu> kubuntu-default-settings: Default settings and artwork for the Kubuntu desktop. In component main, is optional. Version 1:6.06-22 (dapper), package size 1970 kB, installed size 3080 kB
[05:24] <m4x1mum> is krusader similar to konquerer?
[05:25] <LivingCooler> I did an apt-get dist upgrade and it won't upgrade gcc, is that a seperate procedure?
[05:25] <Hawkwind> m4x1mum: It's a split screen file manager and also can not be used as a webbrowser
[05:26] <TheGateKeeper> abattoir: may be I need to go poking around kubuntu-desktop I know that is their main meta package
[05:26] <m4x1mum> so konquerer is like both file manager and a browser?
[05:27] <abattoir> TheGateKeeper: sure... you can get the source and look at it if you want too
[05:27] <_Shade_> is there a possibility to launch ubuntu cd from an iso image, since all my cd-roms are broken
[05:27] <intelikey> m4x1mum yes
[05:27] <|lostbyte|x> Hi guys.
[05:28] <m4x1mum> is kubuntu dependent on konquerer? like windows is dependent on IE?
[05:28] <intelikey> m4x1mum in a sense yes
[05:28] <gnomefreak> m4x1mum: yes
[05:28] <intelikey> kde will run without konqueror
[05:28] <cox377> Hello all, i wanna put a new hdd into this computer and install kubuntu on it, is it possible to make up a backup image of all the settings etc etc?
[05:29] <intelikey> gnome will run without nutilus too
[05:29] <m4x1mum> ooh so i can safely remove konquerer? Since I use Opera for web browser and probably krusader for file manager
[05:30] <v3ctor> is krusader even close to konqueror feature wise?
[05:31] <|lostbyte|x> v3ctor: what does krusader have ?
[05:31] <intelikey> m4x1mum try just disabling it in the settings.   you probably want icons on the desktop.  i think konq does that
[05:31] <gnomefreak> m4x1mum: thats gonna be touchy i think
[05:31] <v3ctor> |lostbyte|x: no idea?
[05:32] <TheGateKeeper> !backup
[05:32] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[05:32] <TheGateKeeper> cox377: ^^^^
[05:33] <cox377> TheGateKeeper: nice one mate
[05:33] <TheGateKeeper> cox377: np :-)
[05:33] <intelikey> m4x1mum if you "remove" konqueror as in removing the package it will take kde-core with it.     you can test   sudo mv /usr/bin/konqueror /home     and restart kde see what all error messages you get.
[05:34] <TheGateKeeper> m4x1mum: sounds like it would be safer just to remove it from your menus
[05:35] <m4x1mum> ooh
[05:35] <intelikey> safe ?     safe ?     if it removes all kde*  that doesn't crash linux... what do you mean safe ?
[05:36] <v3ctor> i don't see anough differences to make the switch
[05:37] <intelikey> sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg     is safe....
[05:38] <nikkiana> is there a way to make a button that will minimize all open windows if you click on it?
[05:38] <intelikey> v3ctor like i first said.  "<intelikey> m4x1mum try just disabling it in the settings."
[05:38] <Tm_T> nikkiana: you mean "show desktop" kicker applet?
[05:38] <v3ctor> nikkiana: you mean likea show-desktop button?
[05:38] <nikkiana> yeah
[05:38] <nikkiana> like that
[05:38] <v3ctor> there show be  one
[05:39] <intelikey> yeah there is a way.
[05:39] <Tm_T> nikkiana: it should be there already, right next to that kmenu icon
[05:39] <v3ctor> try looking in apptlets that you can add
[05:39] <v3ctor> applets* even
[05:39] <trappist> it's in the list of applets - search for 'show'
[05:39] <nikkiana> found it!
[05:39] <nikkiana> thanks :D
[05:40] <v3ctor> np
[05:40] <intelikey> right click on the taskbar add applet show desktop
[05:40] <larson9999> i thought i edited a pdf file in linux not long ago but can't find an program that does that now.  is there an OSS program that will do that in linux or am i smoking crack?
[05:41] <Tm_T> intelikey: I have only few windows in each desktop, no problems with those :)
[05:41] <trappist> intelikey: I don't use it, but I figure it musta been invented for a reason
[05:41] <larson9999> intelikey: i use that button all the time.
[05:41] <Tm_T> some people can't live without desktop icons
[05:41] <intelikey> larson9999 ah  and for what cause ?
[05:41] <v3ctor> different strokes for different folks
[05:42] <v3ctor> you could also use a different desktop ;)
[05:42] <larson9999> intelikey: to get to my desktop, silly
[05:42] <intelikey> Tm_T yeah i guess that's it.
[05:42] <Tm_T> I find desktop icons trashy
[05:42] <m4x1mum> but desktop icon provide quick access
[05:42] <larson9999> intelikey: just something i'm used to.  it's like a prefer non tabbed browsing because i just used to use alt+tab to switch
[05:42] <nikkiana> it's more because i temporarily store files on my desktop for work :)
[05:42] <Tm_T> but I understand that many people does use and like to use it
[05:42] <v3ctor> so can taskbar icons
[05:43] <raul12>  how t change KDE theme ???
[05:43] <|lostbyte|x> raul12: kcontrol.
[05:43] <n8k99> system settings>apperance
[05:43] <larson9999> if you don't like desktop icons, use a wm that doesn't allow them.  they're usually much faster, no?
[05:43] <m4x1mum> ooh i like tab browsing the first time i experience them :)
[05:43] <raul12>  i am not finding anything to change theme in system setting
[05:44] <intelikey> larson9999 no.
[05:44] <larson9999> intelikey: oh, the sites usually claim they are :)
[05:45] <raul12>  help plz
[05:45] <larson9999> so, no pdf editor in linux?
[05:45] <m4x1mum> in Opera i can just use 1, 2 to switch between tabs, then i can use alt+tab to switch between application
[05:45] <larson9999> free on that is
[05:45] <n8k99> raul12: under Look & Feel select Appearance
[05:45] <LjL> larson9999, you can *create* a PDF using several programs
[05:45] <intelikey> larson9999 only desktop that i know of that does not support desktop icons is  twm   it's fast yes.  the whole package is very tiny.
[05:45] <intelikey> !info twm
[05:45] <ubotu> twm: Tab window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 93 kB, installed size 276 kB
[05:45] <LjL> larson9999: as for editing an *existing* PDF, that wouldn't be straight forward under any system, i think
[05:45] <raul12>  look and feel where ??
[05:45] <intelikey> package size 93 kB,
[05:46] <n8k99> it's the second field of selections from the top
[05:46] <m4x1mum> its quite easy to edit PDF using adobe acrobat, in windows
[05:46] <collin> how do you change the login screen window back to gnome?
[05:46] <n8k99> Appearance is the one on teh left
[05:47] <n8k99> raul12: then when you are in Appearance, select Style
[05:47] <larson9999> LjL: i found a couple sites that talk about a long winded method.  i'll give it a go.
[05:47] <n8k99> raul12 or Windows Decorations
[05:47] <_Shade_> how can i install ubuntu from an iso image?
[05:47] <larson9999> m4x1mum: acrobat isn't free is it?
[05:47] <LjL> larson9999: well, for instance i can see there's a package called "ipe" that can output to pdf, and another package "pdftoipe" that can convert a PDF to ipe format
[05:47] <intelikey> does xpdf-utils not allow editing ?
[05:48] <raul12>  but their is no place to browse and install my theme
[05:48] <m4x1mum> nope its not free, but its the best in my  own experience
[05:48] <raul12>  in windows decoration
[05:48] <LjL> larson9999: or the "pstoedit" package also
[05:49] <raul12>  where i can install my theme ??
[05:49] <m4x1mum> and acrobat can do many things like adding javascript to documents, i dont even use that functionality hehehe
[05:49] <raul12>  ..............
[05:49] <intelikey> or windows
[05:50] <m4x1mum> well i deal with pdf all the time unfortunately
[05:50] <raul12>  their is no place to browse and install my theme
[05:50] <collin> how do you change the login screen window back to gnome?
[05:51] <LjL> collin: you mean the display manager? "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"
[05:52] <raul12>  help plz
[05:53] <narasimhan> collin :just for info , the setting is stored in the file /etc/X11/default-display-manager ..u can change /usr/bin/kdm to /usr/sbin/gdm
[05:53] <m4x1mum> aaaah from 43 upgradable to 28 package
[05:53] <intelikey> collin it may be that you don't want to change the login screen but the default session?   you can have many desktop environments installed and even running...  there is a menu to select the session on both the gdm and kdm greeters
[05:53] <LjL> raul12: perhaps run "kcontrol", go to Appearances and Themes, Theme Manager, Install new theme
[05:54] <raul12>  where is kcontrol ???
[05:54] <LjL> raul12: type "kcontrol" in a console.
[05:54] <Hawkwind> raul12: alt-f2 and then type kcontrol
[05:54] <intelikey> in /usr/bin
[05:55] <intelikey> one never knows what that question might mean....
[05:55] <raul12>  any way i can bring kcontrol to my enu list ???
[05:55] <raul12>  menu
[05:55] <LjL> raul12: yes
[05:55] <raul12>  plz tell
[05:55] <raul12>  steps
[05:55] <intelikey> kmenuedit
[05:55] <LjL> raul12: right click on panel, Add applet to panel, Settings
[05:56] <collin> thanks everyone for your help
[05:56] <intelikey> LjL menu ?
[05:56] <raul12> k
[05:56] <LjL> intelikey: ?
[05:57] <arepie> hello.. who knows how to configure ATI fglrx driver for me to support direct randering?
[05:57] <intelikey> LjL hehhe it looks like your answer was sufficient but he asked about "<raul12>  any way i can bring kcontrol to my menu list ???"    :)
[05:57] <trappist> !ati
[05:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:57] <trappist> the bot knows
[05:57] <LjL> intelikey: sure. but the "Settings" applet is specifically made to access kcontrol easily
[05:57] <arepie> i guess i read it, and follow the instruction.. it gave me no direct randering
[05:58] <intelikey> LjL like i said.  he took your answer and ran with it.   no blood no foul.   :)
[05:59] <DaSkreech> hi nikkiana
[05:59] <nikkiana> hi DaSkreech :)
[06:00] <raul12>  thank U guys 4 the help :D
[06:00] <DaSkreech> intelikey: in Windows Vista they have a button to bring up Alt+tab
[06:00] <intelikey> :)
[06:01] <collin> before i make a mistake, what i want to do is have the computer boot up to the ubuntu login window and choose the session from there instead of booting up with the kubuntu login window
[06:01] <intelikey> DaSkreech that must be for those kbd'less boxen
[06:02] <narasimhan> collin: i dont understand..
[06:02] <intelikey> collin yes "<LjL> collin: you mean the display manager? "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"    is correct
[06:02] <m3xican> !java
[06:02] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[06:02] <narasimhan> collin: u will get the kdm login manager next time u restart
[06:02] <narasimhan> collin: sorry gdm
[06:03] <m3xican> !classpath
[06:03] <ubotu> classpath: clean room standard Java libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:0.19-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 382 kB, installed size 704 kB
[06:03] <collin> ok, and why does it say that postfix failed during boot up?
[06:03] <DaSkreech> twm doesn't ship with X anymore?
[06:03] <DaSkreech>  that's kinda dangerous
[06:04] <DaSkreech> How are you nikkiana?
[06:04] <intelikey> collin cause you haven't configured it.    sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix     if you want to set up postfix
[06:04] <DaSkreech> Got your server sorted?
[06:04] <DaSkreech> hi aseigo
[06:04] <nikkiana> DaSkreech: not too shabby, got a job and such... working from home
[06:04] <aseigo> hey
[06:04] <narasimhan> intelikey: :) fast and resourceful
[06:04] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Scwheet :)
[06:05] <intelikey> resourceful == full of warmed over source....  yep that's me.
[06:05] <collin> intelikey: what is postfix for?
[06:05] <raul12>  how to install .tar.gz theme file ????
[06:06] <v3ctor> postfix = MTA(mail transfer agent)
[06:06] <DaSkreech> raul12: They will normally have aREADME file
[06:06] <intelikey> collin email transport.    run     man postfix    for more info
[06:06] <collin> intelikey: thanks a lot for your help
[06:06] <intelikey> collin np.
[06:07] <DaSkreech> raul12: Look in the tar.gz to see if they have a README or an INSTALL file
[06:08] <arepie> is there other driver for ATI other than fglrx?
[06:08] <narasimhan> raul12: u can also try out some themes available via adept..
[06:08] <intelikey> arepie vesa ?
[06:09] <arepie> !vesa
[06:09] <ubotu> vesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x
[06:09] <arepie> !x
[06:09] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:09] <intelikey> !ati
[06:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:09] <arepie> fglrx doesn
[06:09] <arepie> fglrx doesn't seems to be fine with my graphic card
[06:10] <uwo> what is the equivalent of *.* in linux terminal (i.e. cp *.* /home....)
[06:10] <trappist> uwo: *.* means pretty much the same thing here as it does in windows
[06:10] <intelikey> uwo *
[06:11] <Tm_T> uwo: *.* works, but as you can see, it takes only files that does have dot.
[06:11] <trappist> any filename with a . in it, is what it expands to
[06:11] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Hope you can motivate yourself :)
[06:11] <intelikey> uwo in DOS *.*  is the same as  * in linux
[06:11] <uwo> intelikey: tnx :)
[06:11] <fildo> * = wildcard ;p
[06:12] <torkiano> hello all
[06:12] <intelikey> for later referance     DOS *.* != linux *.*
[06:12] <fildo> hi torkiano
[06:12] <trappist> intelikey: *.* doesn't require a . in the filename in DOS?
[06:13] <DaSkreech> trappist: I'm not sure you can make a file without a .dot in the name in dos :)
[06:13] <intelikey> in linux    *.*  ecery inode name contianing a dot "."    most inodes in linux dont
[06:14] <DaSkreech> though I guess you wouldn't get folders
[06:14] <intelikey> s/ecery/every
[06:14] <lotusleaf> how may I find out what hald is doing exactly? Every few seconds my HDD light flashes and in KSysGuard hald is doing something which coincides with the HDD light flashing, even when no programs are running and the system is idle.
[06:15] <intelikey> DaSkreech sure you can.  but in DOS file    "blah"   matches  both  *   and  *.*   but in linux   blah only mathces *   not *.*
[06:15] <DaSkreech> Whats the single char metachar in dos?
[06:15] <intelikey> ?
[06:16] <intelikey> same as linux
[06:16] <DaSkreech> ?
[06:16] <intelikey> yep
[06:16] <DaSkreech> OK
[06:16] <excitatory> when ripping cds on linux, how do you all handle the pregaps since cdparanoia doesn't support pregap detection?
[06:16] <intelikey> but in DOS  ? wont match .
[06:16] <intelikey> in linux it will
[06:17] <DaSkreech> lotusleaf: Good question
[06:18] <collin> i did sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm and it changed the login window back to gnome, but the boot up splash screen is still kubuntu. how can I change that?
[06:18] <v3ctor> lotusleaf: lshal --monitor
[06:18] <v3ctor> maybe?
[06:18] <intelikey> man usplash
[06:18] <intelikey> !usplash
[06:18] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[06:18] <intelikey> collin ^
[06:19] <collin> thanks
[06:19] <lotusleaf> v3ctor: as root?
[06:19] <lotusleaf> v3ctor: via sudo, whatever :)
[06:19] <v3ctor> lotusleaf: i am running as norm user
[06:20] <lotusleaf> v3ctor: thx I'm trying it and waiting to see if anything shows ;)
[06:20] <v3ctor> i am on laptop and i keep getting battery updates
[06:20] <shido> does anybody know how can i switch between dekstops in KDE? using the keyboard
[06:21] <v3ctor> shido: alt and the direction arrows ?
[06:21] <shido> no v3ctor...i thought so...but it doesnt work
[06:21] <alain_> anyone has running edgy and has a floppy drive?
[06:22] <v3ctor> shido: check the keyboard shortcuts in kcontrol
[06:22] <lotusleaf> alain_: yes and yes
[06:22] <lotusleaf> alain_: also see #ubuntu+1
[06:22] <shido> thanks v3ctor
[06:23] <lotusleaf>  Okay, so it won't hurt anything by disabling hald from starting @ boot, right? I don't plug in devices that often so I really don't need hald running all the time I gather
[06:23] <alain_> lotusleaf does it work for you to click on storage media, then floppy?
[06:24] <lotusleaf> alain_: if it's Edgy related, please re-ask me in #ubuntu+1 :) thanks
[06:24] <alain_> grml...
[06:24] <raul12>  well is their any way to change .tar.bz2 into kubuntu theme file ????
[06:25] <alain_> lotusleaf the problem does not exist on ubuntu...
[06:25] <lotusleaf> alain_: I said please join #ubuntu+1 that is the edgy channel, not #ubuntu =)
[06:26] <lotusleaf> alain_: and plenty of people in #ubuntu+1 discuss kde related issues
[06:26] <intelikey> why does kde reset X when starting ?    it blanks the screen 4 times (if i'm not mistaken) reloading x each time....
[06:26] <intelikey> none of the other desktops do that
[06:27] <raul12>  plz help
[06:27] <criferlo> tons que
[06:28] <criferlo> bienvenidos
[06:28] <intelikey> !help
[06:28] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[06:28] <host-one> bannatemi
[06:28] <criferlo> what??
[06:28] <host-one> io m'ammazzo
[06:28] <criferlo> welcome
[06:28] <DaSkreech> shido: Ctrl+F<n>
[06:29] <shido> DaSkreech, thanks... now i fixed it in the KControl options
[06:29] <raul12>  well is their any way to change .tar.bz2 into kubuntu theme file ????
[06:29] <azzco> I think that I heard someone talking about integrating kopete and kontact in here before... is it possible?
[06:30] <intelikey> !theme
[06:30] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:31] <intelikey> !theem
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about theem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <McNutella> how do I make it use the default ubuntu artwork instead of kubuntu  please?
[06:31] <intelikey> !changethemes
[06:31] <ubotu> Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[06:32] <McNutella> !artwork
[06:32] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:33] <azzco> so is there anyway to integrate the contact list in kopete with the one in contact?
[06:36] <ralph> Azzco you still there
[06:36] <azzco> yeah
[06:36] <ralph> it is me chico ;)
[06:36] <azzco> oh :)
[06:37] <ralph> so no response yet
[06:37] <azzco> Shold have seen it some time before :) nope not yet =/
[06:37] <abattoir> azzco: sure, its possible
[06:37] <azzco> not manually I hope abattoir
[06:38] <intelikey> Need to get 0B of archives.
[06:38] <intelikey> After unpacking 441MB disk space will be freed.
[06:38] <intelikey> Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? y
[06:38] <azzco> Oh silly of me >_< I just noticed the "Export Contacts"
[06:38] <intelikey> hehhe removing python-2.4
[06:38] <abattoir> azzco: hmm, ok, i was just typing it out ;)
[06:39] <azzco> THX anyways :)
[06:39] <abattoir> np :)
[06:39] <criferlo> helllooooooooooo
[06:39] <ralph> Export from Kopete or Kontact?
[06:39] <intelikey> so a lot of kde is writen in python....
[06:44] <beligum> Hi all, I did a dist-upgrade and konqueror is gone !
[06:44] <beligum> anyone having the same probs?
[06:45] <abattoir> beligum: in the Menu? or is the package removed?
[06:45] <beligum> the package got removed
[06:45] <abattoir> ok, then install it manually...
[06:46] <beligum> it depends on kdelibs4c2a and that fails to install
[06:46] <intelikey> kde-core depends on konqueror
[06:46] <abattoir> you are dist-upgrading within dapper or are you upgrading to edgy?
[06:46] <beligum> dapper
[06:46] <intelikey> unless that has changed in edgy   #ubuntu+1
[06:46] <beligum> and that depends on libcupsys2 (>= 1.2.1), but that's not in the repo
[06:47] <abattoir> beligum: do you have dapper updates/backports enabled?
[06:47] <intelikey> !repos
[06:47] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:47] <beligum> yes
[06:47] <beligum> I mean, abattoir: yes
[06:48] <abattoir> beligum: try 'sudo apt-get update', 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[06:48] <abattoir> and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, again
[06:48] <beligum> already did that
[06:48] <beligum> nothing
[06:48] <beligum> 91 packages are kept back
[06:49] <abattoir> hmm, ok, install them manually
[06:49] <abattoir> copy the list of packages, and paste them after sudo apt-get install
[06:50] <beligum> already did that, fails on kdelibs4c2a:
[06:51] <abattoir> beligum: do you have kubuntu-desktop installed?
[06:51] <abattoir> beligum: could you pastebin that error message if it is long?
[06:51] <abattoir> !info kdelibs4c2a
[06:51] <ubotu> kdelibs4c2a: core libraries for all KDE applications. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu18.1 (dapper), package size 8138 kB, installed size 24336 kB
[06:51] <beligum> abattoir: can't install kubuntu-desktop, it depends on kdelibs4c2a
[06:52] <abattoir> beligum: and have you upgraded/are trying to update to a later version of KDE
[06:52] <beligum> no, not that I know of
[06:52] <abattoir> beligum: hmm, ok, either you didnt have kubuntu-desktop installed, or it was removed somehow
[06:52] <abattoir> beligum: so you are still using 3.5.2 ?
[06:53] <beligum> hmm, 3.5.3
[06:54] <beligum> sec, I'll post my sources.list
[06:54] <inteliwasp> is it posible to have the disk check be postponed if the computer is running on battries?
[06:55] <raul12>  well i am not finding my kdmrc file which need to configure my theme plz help
[06:55] <Hawkwind> locate kdmrc  in  a terminal  Type that
[06:56] <Ash-Fox> How does one broadcast global messages, like the way shutdown does?
[06:56] <TheGateKeeper> inteliwasp: I think if you put an empty file called .fastboot (or something like that can't quite remember) it will skip the hdd check, if that is what you are talking about
[06:57] <TheGateKeeper> in the /
[06:57] <beligum> Here it is: http://beligum.org/pub/sources.list
[06:57] <beligum> hmm, http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest is probably the tricky one
[06:58] <trappist> beligum: so, your nick is not a typo :)
[06:58] <beligum> no, it's not :)
[06:58] <inteliwasp> i don't mind running it, just not when i need the computer fast...
[06:58] <abattoir> beligum: you dont seem to have dapper-updates.... unless i missed it
[06:59] <beligum> abattoir: can you post the line I'm missing?
[06:59] <abattoir> beligum: deb http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[07:00] <beligum> thx
[07:00] <abattoir> beligum: np, tell me if it works.. (should work ;) )
[07:01] <beligum> abattoir: you rule !
[07:01] <beligum> :)
[07:01] <abattoir> beligum: you have kde-latest, and i asked you if you upgraded your KDE version :P
[07:01] <raul12>  i am always finding .tar.b2z themes which i am u able to install plz can u tell me where can i find kubuntu theme
[07:01] <abattoir> *upgraded KDE to a later version ;)
[07:01] <beligum> yeah, I'm sorry, forgot I included that one in the beginning
[07:02] <raul12>  me upgrade KDE ???
[07:02] <abattoir> raul12: why arent you able to install them? what sort of themes?
[07:02] <abattoir> raul12: no, that was not for you
[07:02] <raul12>  KDE themes
[07:02] <GeorgeM36Gr> Hello all
[07:02] <abattoir> raul12: different parts of KDE can be themed, so which part?
[07:02] <beligum> pffiew, thank god the solution was so easy, I thought I had to flash back 5 years and manually install packages again
[07:02] <raul12> Put the theme folder in ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes
[07:02] <raul12> Edit your ~/.kde/share/config/kdm/kdmrc
[07:02] <raul12> Change or add the line Theme=~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes/"THEMENAME"
[07:02] <raul12> Restart KDE
[07:02] <abattoir> raul12: give me the link to the theme you are trying to install
[07:02] <raul12> ok
[07:03] <raul12> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=28724
[07:03] <abattoir> raul12: ok, you are trying to install a kdm theme
[07:03] <raul12> k
[07:03] <abattoir> raul12: i suggest installing the kdm theme manager
[07:03] <raul12>  but kdm manager wont support .tar.bz2
[07:04] <raul12>  and it wont install
[07:04] <abattoir> raul12: you can either follow those instructions... or install kdmtheme
[07:04] <abattoir> raul12: really?
[07:04] <raul12>  try it
[07:04] <raul12>  i did and it wont install
[07:04] <abattoir> you have kdmtheme installed?
[07:04] <abattoir> !info kdmtheme
[07:04] <ubotu> kdmtheme: Theme switcher for Kdm. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-1 (dapper), package size 70 kB, installed size 212 kB
[07:05] <abattoir> or did you compile it?
[07:05] <raul12>  well i am using kcontrol
[07:05] <raul12>  to install theme
[07:06] <abattoir> raul12: yes, kde has no KDM theming system by default, install that package, it'll make managing KDM themes easier :)
[07:06] <raul12> ok
[07:06] <Dr_willis> yea
[07:06] <Dr_willis> theme overload
[07:06] <raul12> iam on it
[07:11] <Dr_willis> i think the term 'theme' is way way over used tehse days
[07:11] <alain_> anyone has an MSI KT6 Delta mainboard and is running edgy?
[07:11] <Dr_willis> i rember a program that had 'themes' 'schemes' and 'layouts' :) 3 differnt themable aspects of the program.
[07:12] <alain_> or at least an ac97 audio chipset
[07:13] <Dr_willis> isent ac97 a rather generic term? like "sound blaster compatiable' used to be?
[07:13] <wildchild> is there any text editor in conzole for kubunto?
[07:14] <Tm_T> wildchild: nano, vim, joe, emacs... tons of it
[07:15] <rittap> hello all!
[07:16] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: yep quite a few, nano is the one I use
[07:16] <wildchild> nano is simple to use, i like it this way :)
[07:17] <TheGateKeeper> vim also
[07:18] <raul12>  i cant install .tar.bz2 theme through kcontrol and kdmtheme
[07:18] <raul12>  help
[07:18] <rittap> raul12: tell us what went wrong, so we can help you better
[07:19] <raul12>  well then i located the file by *.* then open it , now it wont give me any preview
[07:20] <raul12>  so i think it wont install
[07:20] <rittap> so u tried to unpack the tarball
[07:20] <raul12>  and nothing happned when i applaied the theme
[07:20] <raul12>  yup
[07:20] <rittap> raul12: and there isn't any makefile?
[07:21] <raul12>  and i did it with unzipping tar
[07:21] <raul12>  nope
[07:21] <rittap> hmm, maybe the download is corrupt
[07:21] <rittap> try downloading it again and check it on the hash (if possible)
[07:21] <raul12>  well i am givin u the link plz check
[07:21] <rittap> ok
[07:22] <arepie> hello, how to change the first page, i mean the login page from console to the original back?
[07:22] <raul12> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=26718
[07:22] <rittap> raul12: hold please
[07:22] <raul12>  also read install how to
[07:22] <raul12>  i cant find the file mentioned their
[07:23] <hans_> Moin, moin!
[07:23] <raul12>  well any luck guys ??
[07:23] <rittap> raul12: try this
[07:23] <raul12>  tell
[07:24] <arepie> i have accidentaly change the login KDE desktop to console, how to change it back to the original form?
[07:24] <rittap> put the file in an empty folder, then become root (or use sudo) and type the following
[07:24] <rittap> raul12: ./configure <enter>
[07:24] <raul12>  ok
[07:24] <raul12>  is the file or the tar ball
[07:24] <rittap> when done: make <enter>
[07:24] <arepie> !login
[07:24] <ubotu> login: system login tools. In component main, is required. Version 1:4.0.13-7ubuntu3.2 (dapper), package size 235 kB, installed size 2036 kB
[07:24] <claudio_> claudio@claudio:~$ sudo ifconfig sit0 up /
[07:24] <claudio_> Password:
[07:24] <claudio_> SIOCSIFNETMASK: Impossibile assegnare l'indirizzo richiesto
[07:24] <claudio_> Host sconosciuto
[07:24] <rittap> no in the unpacked tarball
[07:24] <claudio_> why?
[07:25] <raul12>  ok
[07:26] <raul12>  thx
[07:26] <raul12>  i am on it
[07:27] <rittap> raul12: ping me again if you need more help on this subject !
[07:28] <raul12>  ./configure is not found
[07:28] <rittap> hmm
[07:28] <rittap> weird
[07:28] <raul12>  i cd into the un zipp folder
[07:28] <raul12>  then run ./configure
[07:28] <rittap> and there's config file
[07:29] <raul12>  where
[07:29] <i32madev> someone speak spanish?? or it's necessary to speak in english?
[07:29] <rittap> sorry typo
[07:29] <rittap> !es
[07:29] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:29] <i32madev> thanks a lot
[07:29] <rittap> there's no config file huh
[07:29] <rittap> okay
[07:29] <MukiEX> i32madev : I do, a bit
[07:29] <rittap> hang on
[07:29] <MukiEX> ooh, that's convinient.
[07:29] <raul12> file:///home/rampage/Desktop/login-scan-fusion-0-3-1/login-scan-fusion/Background.png
[07:30] <raul12> file:///home/rampage/Desktop/login-scan-fusion-0-3-1/login-scan-fusion/Background_transparent.png
[07:30] <raul12> file:///home/rampage/Desktop/login-scan-fusion-0-3-1/login-scan-fusion/GdmGreeterTheme.desktop
[07:30] <raul12> file:///home/rampage/Desktop/login-scan-fusion-0-3-1/login-scan-fusion/login-scan-fusion.xml
[07:30] <raul12> file:///home/rampage/Desktop/login-scan-fusion-0-3-1/login-scan-fusion/preview.png
[07:30] <raul12> file:///home/rampage/Desktop/login-scan-fusion-0-3-1/login-scan-fusion/README
[07:30] <raul12> file:///home/rampage/Desktop/login-scan-fusion-0-3-1/login-scan-fusion/session.png
[07:30] <raul12> file:///home/rampage/Desktop/login-scan-fusion-0-3-1/login-scan-fusion/system.png
[07:30] <rittap> raul12: hold
[07:30] <rittap> we have a pastbin for that
[07:30] <raul12>   sry i misclicked onpaste
[07:30] <B-Minus> i installed samba, i have smbclient etc but i dont have smbfs ???
[07:31] <rittap> raul12: you tried to follow the install instructions on the website?
[07:31] <raul12> nope
[07:31] <raul12> what u told
[07:32] <rittap> yeah ok
[07:32] <rittap> but have you also tried that one
[07:32] <rittap> because if that doesn't work...
[07:32] <raul12> well i did
[07:32] <raul12> it doesnt work
[07:32] <rittap> but?
[07:32] <rittap> why is that?
[07:33] <raul12> no files found
[07:33] <rittap> okay
[07:33] <rittap> let me try to install
[07:33] <raul12> no ./configure in the theme !!
[07:33] <omar__> Guys, I am gonna install Windows in my PC, and I have xubuntu, how can I do it without touching my xubuntu
[07:34] <raul12> creat a seperate partitation
[07:34] <raul12> ans install win teir
[07:34] <raul12> their
[07:34] <omar__> raul12 how can i do that
[07:35] <raul12> well u can do that by gettin Gparted
[07:35] <raul12> a partitation software
[07:35] <raul12> patition
[07:35] <raul12> partition
[07:36] <omar__> raul12 let me check, thanks, how much disk do you think I will need for a XP
[07:36] <rittap> raul12: have u installed kdm
[07:36] <rittap> !kdm > rittap
[07:36] <rittap> !kdm
[07:36] <ubotu> kdm: X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 600 kB, installed size 1468 kB
[07:36] <raul12> well 2 gb is more than enough
[07:36] <raul12> kdm
[07:36] <Manyfold> is there an xgl how to for kubuntu?
[07:36] <raul12> ??
[07:36] <rittap> yeah
[07:37] <omar__> raul12 i can't find Gparted, do you know another one
[07:37] <rittap> !kdm > raul12
[07:37] <raul12> dunno
[07:37] <raul12> @ omar go to
[07:37] <raul12> http://distrowatch.com/
[07:38] <rittap> raul12: check if you do
[07:38] <raul12> u can fing gpated in here in .iso
[07:38] <rittap> its necessary
[07:38] <raul12> ok
[07:38] <raul12> i am on it
[07:38] <arepie> i have accidentaly change the login KDE desktop to console, how to change it back to the original form?
[07:40] <intelikey> hmmm kde is running but not installed... interesting...
[07:40] <intelikey> arepie startx
[07:41] <intelikey> arepie errr if you can't figure that out, sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[07:41] <intelikey> should fix you....
[07:43] <rittap> raul12: and?
[07:44] <steff_> Hi. Anyone having any experience with the ati-linux drivers? Running kubuntu edgy on my HP nc8000 laptop.  radeon mobility 9600. i get bad parformens from the ati driver compared to the driver that comes with the installation of ubuntu.?!
[07:45] <MukiEX> Run fglrxinfo
[07:45] <MukiEX> And go to #ati, we can discuss it there
[07:46] <steff_> okay thx
[07:47] <raul12>  well kdm is installed
[07:47] <raul12>  now i am upgrading it
[07:47] <rittap> ok
[07:47] <rittap> check the apart msg
[07:47] <raul12>  k
[07:48] <raul12>  is their any way to compile it ??
[07:49] <rittap> raul12: kdm? or the theme?
[07:49] <raul12>  theme
[07:49] <Dr_willis> !info build-essential
[07:49] <rittap> raul12: I don't think so, but i'm not an expert
[07:49] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[07:49] <raul12>  well i have that package
[07:50] <raul12>  build essential
[07:50] <Search4Lancer> how do I damn "Slow Keys" to fire and brimstone so it will leave me alone?
[07:50] <raul12>  and want to compile theme
[07:50] <Dr_willis> Slow Keys?
[07:50] <raul12>  but it wont
[07:50] <rittap> raul12: I gotta go. I hope u will find the solution
[07:50] <raul12>  ok thx any way
[07:50] <Dr_willis> raul12,  you will need some of the different -dev packages as well
[07:50] <rittap> raul12: ur welcome
[07:50] <rittap> bye all
[07:51] <raul12>  can specify the packages that i may need ?
[07:51] <raul12>  @Dr
[07:51] <Dr_willis> Nope.
[07:51] <Dr_willis> I tend to just 'apt-cache search kde | grep dev' and install them all. :)
[07:51] <raul12>  why ??
[07:51] <Dr_willis> HOW can i tell what ones a theme may or may not need. :P
[07:52] <LjL> Dr_willis: usually i install kdelibs4-dev
[07:52] <Dr_willis> ./configure and look for any errors. :)
[07:52] <LjL> unless the program needs something very special, that's usually good enough
[07:52] <raul12>  but when opening theme file
[07:52] <Dr_willis> LjL,  yea.. i tend to use the shotgun method. :)
[07:52] <khirr> guys, is there Macromedia Flash for kubuntu?
[07:52] <raul12>  i wont find any ./configure file
[07:52] <Dr_willis> khirr,  the latest flash is  comming out soon for linux i hear.
[07:52] <raul12>  yup their is macro
[07:52] <Dr_willis> work time fo rme.. bbl
[07:53] <khirr> but, if i wanna use macromedia flash..what should i do?
[07:53] <LjL> !flash
[07:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:53] <raul12>  well u can use convectional adept
[07:53] <raul12>  and install it from their
[07:53] <khirr> !flash
[07:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:53] <raul12>  yup
[07:53] <mots> could it be, that my kde-internet-libs are kinda broken?
[07:53] <Hawkwind> khirr: However, a lot of sites require flash 8 or newer, and Linux only has flash 7 and we won't get a new version until version 9 is released after the first of the year for Linux
[07:54] <raul12>  or go to the site download the tar ball
[07:54] <raul12>  and compile it ur self
[07:54] <khirr> uhmm
[07:54] <khirr> i work with macromedia flash :(
[07:54] <raul12> hmmm
[07:54] <mots> internet with konqueror/internetfunctions of amaroK don't work
[07:54] <LjL> or contribute to some free flash clone project :P
[07:54] <mots> altough gtk-progs work perfectly well
[07:55] <Hawkwind> raul12: You can't compile flash higher than version 7 for Linux
[07:55] <Hawkwind> If you could, there would be a flash 8 or 9 for Linux
[07:55] <khirr> (:(
[07:55] <intelikey> khirr change jobs   :)
[07:55] <raul12>  but flash 7 is all we have
[07:55] <raul12>  4 now
[07:55] <khirr> (_(
[07:55] <khirr> i dont wanna back to windows :(
[07:55] <LjL> well, doesn't Flash work in Wine anyway?
[07:55] <Hawkwind> raul12: I stated that
[07:55] <raul12>  well flash 9 will be out soon 4 linux
[07:55] <intelikey> we don't want you too but we don't want you to use flash either
[07:56] <raul12>  lol ^_^
[07:56] <Hawkwind> You can however run your app in wine that uses the newer flash if you are really that desperate
[07:56] <khirr> i cant do run flash under wine
[07:56] <khirr> i cant run anyprogram under wine
[07:56] <khirr> i dont know how it worl
[07:56] <raul12>  why ??
[07:56] <khirr> work
[07:56] <Hawkwind> raul12: Not soon.  Probably not until around May or June of 2007
[07:56] <LjL> then your wine install has something wrong with it i guess :o)
[07:56] <raul12>  well i stall it
[07:56] <khirr> !wine
[07:56] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:56] <raul12>  install it
[07:56] <LjL> khirr: well, for programs that work out of the box, you just type "wine setup.exe"
[07:56] <raul12>  better go to wine home site
[07:56] <LjL> a few programs need some tweaking, granted
[07:57] <raul12>  their is lot better documentation
[07:57] <khirr> to can install one program?
[07:57] <raul12>  ^_^
[07:57] <excitatory> you can track the flash 9 linux dev here: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/
[07:57] <mini_gamer1896> khirr, also, Wine's homepage is http://www.winehq.com
[07:57] <raul12>  yup
[07:57] <mini_gamer1896> goto ApplicationDB
[07:57] <khirr> ?
[07:58] <mots> no help?
[07:58] <mots> >:O
[07:58] <LjL> khirr: winehq.com's application db contains a list of windows software with comments on whether it works on not, and hopefully how to make it work
[07:58] <mini_gamer1896> and do a search for the flash program under the title, there might be some tricks that are posted there
[07:58] <khirr> i'll check now
[07:58] <mini_gamer1896> *title name
[07:59] <khirr> the hardest problem is, all in english only (:(
[07:59] <mini_gamer1896> you could use the google translator
[07:59] <mini_gamer1896> for the page(s)
[07:59] <LjL> you even perhaps *not* :P
[07:59] <intelikey> yeah those bleedin' anglish...
[07:59] <raul12>  yup that good choice
[08:00] <raul12>  and if u use oprea then u can download google translator wigets
[08:00] <LjL> well Konqueror comes with a translation plugin as well
[08:00] <LjL> uses babelfish though IIRC
[08:00] <khirr> the progam that i wanna run must be installed on my PC, or i can install one software since wine?
[08:01] <LjL> khirr: eh?
[08:01] <intelikey> khirr yes
[08:01] <claudio_> root@claudio:/home/claudio# ifconfig sit0 /
[08:01] <claudio_> SIOCSIFNETMASK: Impossibile assegnare l'indirizzo richiesto
[08:01] <claudio_> Host sconosciuto
[08:01] <claudio_> ifconfig: `--help' gives usage information.
[08:01] <claudio_> why?
[08:01] <khirr> can i install?
[08:01] <LjL> !pastebin
[08:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:01] <mini_gamer1896> khirr, if you have wine installed, than it creates a virtual windows system under your home directory
[08:01] <intelikey> khirr some things   yes
[08:01] <LjL> khirr: you can install programs from wine, *assuming* they can work on wine
[08:01] <mini_gamer1896> it installs to there
[08:02] <khirr> wine is as emulator
[08:02] <khirr> ?
[08:02] <mini_gamer1896> and ditto to LjL
[08:02] <mini_gamer1896> yes
[08:02] <LjL> khirr: yes and no
[08:02] <mini_gamer1896> & no?
[08:02] <khirr> is as have win on my linux?
[08:02] <LjL> khirr: it's a compatibility layer, strictly speaking
[08:02] <intelikey> no.   wine is wine is not an emulator
[08:02] <mini_gamer1896> ah, k
[08:02] <LjL> mini_gamer1896: well, the name "wine" means Wine Is Not an Emulator...
[08:02] <mini_gamer1896> duh, true
[08:02] <khirr> :S
[08:02] <khirr> hahahhaha
[08:02] <khirr> so funny
[08:02] <intelikey> wine is an application layer
[08:03] <LjL> khirr: it's called a recursive acronym. common in the unix world...
[08:03] <raul12>  yup thats right
[08:03] <khirr> acronym?
[08:03] <mots> well
[08:03] <LjL> khirr: abbreviation
[08:03] <claudio_> LjL: have you an idea?
[08:03] <raul12>  i am afk 4 few mins
[08:03] <khirr> uhmmm
[08:03] <intelikey> acro-name
[08:03] <mots> as in GNU=GNU is Not Unix
[08:04] <LjL> khirr: like AFK is an acronym meaning Away From Keyboard
[08:04] <khirr> :O
[08:04] <marcus_> !restrictedformats
[08:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:04] <khirr> i dindt know that
[08:04] <LjL> claudio_: only wired connection here, sorry
[08:04] <khirr> wow, knowing more
[08:04] <khirr> so interesnting
[08:04] <intelikey> LjL pebcak  ?     lol
[08:04] <LjL> khirr: IMHO = in my humble opinion, AFAIK = as far as i know, BBL = be back later, BRB = be right back... and lots more on IRC :)
[08:05] <LjL> intelikey: eh? :o)
[08:05] <inam> !virus
[08:05] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[08:05] <khirr> brb i knowed, but bbl? imho :S
[08:05] <intelikey> some use *kac  same meaning.
[08:05] <intelikey> problem exists between chair and keyboard
[08:06] <octan> lol
[08:06] <LjL> intelikey: uuuh... problem existing between chair and keyboard...?
[08:06] <khirr> i wanna download wine
[08:06] <intelikey> yep
[08:06] <LjL> wow, got it right
[08:06] <khirr> where can i do it?
[08:06] <LjL> khirr: "sudo apt-get install wine"
[08:06] <LjL> khirr: type that in a shell
[08:07] <khirr> lets se
[08:07] <intelikey> LjL pebcak is a common issue in *buntu.   :)
[08:07] <intelikey> there is no patch as of yet.
[08:07] <LjL> intelikey: well, perhaps my brain simply filters awkcronyms it doesn't know :)
[08:07] <khirr> i'm logged as root, but i cant
[08:08] <LjL> ah, so it's a bug :P
[08:08] <LjL> khirr: what does it say
[08:08] <khirr> the packed isnt disponible
[08:08] <LjL> khirr: you mean "the package is not available"... what's your language by the way?
[08:08] <intelikey> khirr apt-get install wine   ?
[08:08] <intelikey> oh
[08:08] <LjL> khirr: you need to enable universe
[08:09] <khirr> is spanish :S
[08:09] <intelikey> !info wine
[08:09] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[08:09] <khirr> universe?
[08:09] <intelikey> it's in universe
[08:09] <intelikey> !repos
[08:09] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:09] <khirr> ?
[08:09] <LjL> khirr: universe is a repository that isn't enabled by default
[08:09] <khirr> i'll check it now
[08:09] <claudio_> !repository
[08:09] <intelikey> khirr https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:09] <claudio_> what is repository?
[08:10] <claudio_> is a server?
[08:10] <LjL> khirr: a dirty way to enable it is typing     sudo sed "s/main/main restricted universe multiverse" /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:10] <LjL> khirr: a dirty way to enable it is typing     sudo sed "s/main/main restricted universe multiverse/" /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:10] <LjL> claudio_: no, a repository is a place containing packages for ubuntu
[08:10] <intelikey> i wonder if removing python-minimal will have any adverse affect on my system....
[08:10] <LjL> !packages
[08:10] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[08:10] <intelikey> claudio_ is a section on a server
[08:10] <LjL> claudio_: there is a "main" repository, which is enabled by default, and there are the "universe" and "multiverse" repositories, which are not enabled by default
[08:10] <claudio_> section of wath?
[08:11] <intelikey> LjL s/main.*/
[08:11] <claudio_> what
[08:11] <LjL> claudio_: programs. it contains programs to install
[08:11] <LjL> intelikey: works without the .* :)
[08:11] <intelikey> else you will get some repetes
[08:11] <claudio_> I don't understand
[08:11] <LjL> intelikey: hm yeah, guess you're right
[08:11] <khirr> i pasted that u said
[08:11] <khirr> ;)
[08:11] <claudio_> Is a program, a place,a section?
[08:11] <LjL> claudio_: software. programs for ubuntu.
[08:12] <claudio_> like urpmi for mdk or emerge for gentoo?
[08:12] <Hawkwind> claudio_: apt-get ?
[08:12] <LjL> claudio_: un repository contiene "pacchetti", che sono programmi per ubuntu. se hai un dato repository abilitato, basta scrivere "sudo apt-get install qualcosa" per installare il pacchetto "qualcosa". ci sono circa 18000 pacchetti in totale
[08:12] <intelikey> echo "blah main universe" | sed 's/main/main universe/g'    and see what it does
[08:12] <claudio_> LjL sei italiano?
[08:12] <Hawkwind> Ummm, that should be in English since this is an English channel
[08:12] <intelikey> LjL ^
[08:12] <LjL> yep, but here we should speak english
[08:12] <Hawkwind> !it
[08:12] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:13] <claudio_> si ok, ma non ho capito cos'e' il repository
[08:13] <claudio_> ho capito che contiene programmi
[08:13] <LjL> english please, or private message me
[08:14] <claudio_> 505]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[08:14] <intelikey> ljl correct syntax. echo "blah main universe" | sed 's/main.*/main universe/g'
[08:14] <LjL> claudio_: right. join #ubuntu-it
[08:14] <intelikey> LjL i knew that.  but made the same blunder eariler.   someone pointed it out for me... :)
[08:16] <LjL> intelikey, actually i think that someone was me, and you were writing "s/main*/......../"
[08:17] <intelikey> sed 's/main .*/main restricted universe multiverse/g' /etc/apt/sources.list ./sources.list
[08:17] <JohnFlux> If when decoding a character is invalid, what does the font renderer display it as?  a question mark?
[08:17] <intelikey> LjL :)
[08:17] <intelikey> welcome to my world  :)
[08:18] <LjL> JohnFlux: depends... most characters that my fonts don't have get displayed as an empty box, i think
[08:18] <soulrider> hi everyone
[08:18] <intelikey> JohnFlux should be either a question mark or a blank space or a dot  depending on the decoder and the renderer
[08:18] <soulrider> any java programmers here ? i wanna know if there is a way to interact with the console froma  java application
[08:19] <LjL> intelikey: ;-) basically we should really use some form of "s/deb(.*)main.*/deb\1main restricted universe multiverse/g" if we wanted to do things right... but i haven't tested this sort of thing yet
[08:19] <intelikey> yeah blank space may show as  [] 
[08:19] <JohnFlux> intelikey: in google mail i've got an email with lots of ?'s
[08:19] <DaSkreech> Ash-Fox: Wall i think
[08:20] <intelikey> LjL or grep -v'#'  the thing  :)
[08:20] <Ash-Fox> DaSkreech, thankyou :)
[08:20] <LjL> possibly
[08:20] <jhutchins_wk> JohnFlux: Most likely something asian with lots of unprintable characters.
[08:20] <intelikey> yeah font/language/rendering unknow
[08:20] <intelikey> JohnFlux ^
[08:21] <JohnFlux> intelikey: but there's no way of knowing if the email is literally full of ?'s
[08:21] <intelikey> pipe everything.
[08:21] <slow-motion> hallo
[08:22] <intelikey> JohnFlux yeah there should be.   maybe pipe it through  | tr -d '?'
[08:22] <intelikey> and compare
[08:24] <intelikey> JohnFlux actually that question would be better suited for #bash   or  #linux
[08:25] <khirr> omg
[08:25] <khirr> i forogot my examen :S
[08:25] <intelikey> meaning you would find more pertanant help there
[08:26] <B-Minus_> hmm
[08:26] <J-K> he is xgl also for kubuntu or they gonna release a version with xgl?
[08:26] <B-Minus_> can i see somehwere with konqueror how big my whole linux partition is ?
[08:26] <B-Minus_> and how much is left
[08:27] <GeorgeM36Gr> hello ppl
[08:27] <GeorgeM36Gr> does anyone have kubuntu 6.06.1 running on a core2duo with abitab9 pro_
[08:27] <GeorgeM36Gr> ?
[08:27] <inam> B-Minus_, do you want to run fdisk from the konsole ?
[08:27] <GeorgeM36Gr> i cant install the thing...
[08:27] <intelikey> B-Minus_ there is an app  but the cli app "df"   is on every gnu/linux system
[08:28] <intelikey> inam that doesn't look like his quarry
[08:28] <mots> could anyonetell me how i get the huuuge navigation icons in konqueror smaller?
[08:28] <GeorgeM36Gr> anyone_
[08:28] <GeorgeM36Gr> ?
[08:29] <intelikey> looks like he's searching for a gui'd df
[08:30] <intelikey> GeorgeM36Gr not i.
[08:30] <GeorgeM36Gr> intelikey thanks for the reply
[08:30] <intelikey> mots right click and configure   or  in kcontrol    (blanket answer)
[08:30] <B-Minus_> tnx
[08:31] <mini_gamer1896> !apt-get gnome
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-get gnome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <ultm8> hi dad
[08:31] <TheGateKeeper> !gnome-desktop
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnome-desktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <intelikey> GeorgeM36Gr heh no problem.  i'm still on dialup with a p1  so i can't help with that hardware question.
[08:32] <GeorgeM36Gr> intelikey dialup with p1? woaaaw
[08:32] <khirr> wine
[08:32] <DaSkreech> !xgl > Manyfold
[08:32] <khirr> need mozilla direct X
[08:32] <khirr> ;S
[08:32] <ultm8> ERIC LOOK HERE!!!! **************************************************
[08:32] <sfilleul> hi
[08:32] <mrezk> hi
[08:32] <GeorgeM36Gr> i was trying the 64bit ... but it failed... and someppl in here told me to try the 32bit version and it fails :(
[08:32] <intelikey> B-Minus_ there is a graphic (pie chart looking)  disk usage app.   i just don't remember the name of it.
[08:32] <khirr> help (:(
[08:32] <khirr> need direct X
[08:32] <khirr> for wine
[08:33] <GeorgeM36Gr> is ubuntu better than kubuntu?
[08:33] <khirr> ACTIVE X
[08:33] <mots> intelikey: where in kcontrol?
[08:33] <khirr> wine need ACTIVE X
[08:33] <intelikey> GeorgeM36Gr it's the same OS
[08:33] <khirr> but cant download
[08:33] <B-Minus_> intelikey:  thats ok, i have all the info i need with df
[08:34] <GeorgeM36Gr> intelikey i know it is but maybe it works with core2duo?
[08:34] <intelikey> only differance is the desktop environment that is installed by default
[08:34] <GeorgeM36Gr> uhhh ok
[08:34] <aseigo> GeorgeM36Gr: kubuntu is ubuntu with kde on it
[08:34] <aseigo> GeorgeM36Gr: so if you prefer kde's approach to things, like many people do, then it's a nice little improvement to an otherwise great os
[08:34] <aseigo> wow. massive lag.
[08:35] <GeorgeM36Gr> aseigo I prefer kde
[08:35] <intelikey> B-Minus_ yes and after you have learned the cli apps you find that the gui is little more than eye candy wrapped around the cli-app
[08:35] <B-Minus_> intelikey: great, Im reading a lot of sites now and they all tell me that
[08:35] <GeorgeM36Gr> aseigo but what I like is not important now as I can install the thing
[08:36] <aseigo> GeorgeM36Gr: the installation system is the same on both
[08:36] <intelikey> aseigo yeah i'm about to lag plumb out..   25S +
[08:36] <GeorgeM36Gr> aseigo cool it wont work then...there is no point downloading it
[08:36] <aseigo> GeorgeM36Gr: heh... sorry =)
[08:36] <soulrider> is anyone having problems with NTFS partitions?
[08:36] <khirr> need ACTIVEX (:(
[08:36] <soulrider> i go to mediaL/ in konqueror
[08:36] <soulrider> and i see my NTFS partitions
[08:37] <soulrider> but the icon is grey as if they wer eunmounted
[08:37] <soulrider> and i cant mount them or access them
[08:37] <soulrider> they used to work, but they dont now
[08:37] <soulrider> i can browse my NTFS drives through amarok or krusader, but not using konqueror
[08:37] <khirr> how can i access to my hda 5 since konsole?
[08:38] <claydoh> khirr: what work they have accomplished in wine re: activex is already built in
[08:38] <soulrider> khirr: type "cd media/hdb5/
[08:38] <soulrider> khirr: type "cd media/hda5/
[08:39] <khirr> uhmm
[08:39] <intelikey> soulrider nope.... hehe
[08:39] <khirr> how can i put DIR?
[08:39] <soulrider> dir
[08:39] <soulrider> or ls
[08:39] <intelikey> soulrider cd /media/blah maybe   but i doubt that cd media/ will get anyone anywhere
[08:39] <khirr> (:(
[08:40] <khirr> how can i run macromedia flash
[08:40] <khirr> i have that install in my hda5
[08:40] <soulrider> ah yes, i forgot the first slash, i allways forget that
[08:40] <khirr> is in ntfs unit
[08:41] <intelikey> khirr man intro        man man         man ls      man cd    man mount     man cp     man rm     man mv
[08:41] <intelikey> !cli
[08:41] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:41] <khirr> ?
[08:41] <khirr> i dont understand
[08:41] <intelikey> then install mc and use it..... :)
[08:41] <claydoh> well that really helps
[08:42] <B-Minus_> does anyone know if there are replacement-apps for linux for these windows apps : Citrix management console, Remote Desktop, Lotus Notes, Dameware
[08:42] <v3ctor> rdesktop
[08:42] <claydoh> you have to know the commands before you use man, man :)
[08:43] <khirr> i wanna run macromedia flash (:(
[08:43] <soulrider> wine ?
[08:43] <intelikey> claydoh man intro and man man  were to teach how to use the man command
[08:43] <claydoh> maybe, or possibly crossover office
[08:44] <Hawkwind> khirr: So run it.  Install flash on Kubuntu
[08:44] <khirr> gd
[08:44] <khirr> yes
[08:44] <claydoh> stuill doesn't help a newbie well
[08:44] <Hawkwind> !flash > khirr
[08:44] <khirr> how?
[08:44] <khirr> how install flash on kubuntu
[08:44] <Hawkwind> khirr: Read what the bot just sent you in pm
[08:44] <DaSkreech> intelikey: so you know tee?
[08:44] <claydoh> i think he wants flash  not flashplayer
[08:44] <khirr> there are 3 directions
[08:44] <khirr> :(
[08:45] <Hawkwind> khirr: You mean flash for viewing webpages ?
[08:45] <intelikey> DaSkreech yeah
[08:45] <khirr> i'm not really good in english
[08:45] <khirr> no
[08:45] <khirr> no no no
[08:45] <khirr> flash to can ru .fla files
[08:45] <khirr> create flash
[08:45] <Hawkwind> khirr: Then ask you in your native language channel.  What is your native language ?
[08:45] <intelikey> DaSkreech what about it ?
[08:45] <khirr> spanish
[08:45] <soulrider> ah
[08:45] <soulrider> :)
[08:45] <khirr> si :D
[08:45] <Hawkwind> khirr: Then ask in #Ubuntu-ES or #Kubuntu-ES
[08:45] <soulrider> estas registrado? podemos hablar por PM
[08:46] <khirr> si estoy registrado, pero nose como logearme
[08:46] <Hawkwind> English only here please
[08:46] <soulrider> escribe /msg nickserv identify <password>
[08:46] <soulrider> sry hawk <3
[08:46] <Tm_T> Mooh
[08:46] <khirr> listo
[08:46] <khirr> vamos a private
[08:46] <Mondor> Yes, this channel is for native africans only.
[08:46] <Hawkwind> !es
[08:46] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:47] <Hawkwind> khirr: ^^^^^^^^^^^
[08:47] <LjL> khirr: /msg nickserv identify tu-password
[08:47] <B-Minus_> is it possible to use the windows fonts in kde ?
[08:47] <khirr> thanks
[08:47] <Hawkwind> B-Minus_: If you install msttcorefonts
[08:47] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Ah you said you were a plumber :) tee is a plumbing tool
[08:47] <B-Minus_> allright
[08:47] <B-Minus_> and then i need to set it to every application individualy ?
[08:48] <Hawkwind> B-Minus_: You can also import the fonts from your windows box if you have one
[08:48] <intelikey> yes it is.
[08:48] <Hawkwind> B-Minus_: You might could do it globally in kcontrol -> Fonts or something like that
[08:48] <intelikey> so is cat
[08:48] <B-Minus_> Hawkwind: ok tnx gonna try
[08:49] <Martijn81> B-Minus_: yep, i have tahoma.ttf imported, but not all what should be bold get bold then
[08:49] <Hawkwind> B-Minus_: There is also kfontview which allows you to view them, then you can import them or whatever
[08:49] <Hawkwind> I have imported all the Windows Vista fonts, the new ones.  There are quite a few nice new fonts actually
[08:50] <B-Minus_> hm sounds great
[08:50] <Martijn81> aha, i don't have vista, maybe i should get the iso, just for the fonts :p
[08:52] <intelikey> it will make your pipes leak
[08:54] <age1172> can i install vga driver for my ati radeon mobility x1600 on kubuntu correctly?
[08:55] <age1172> because i tried with fglrx and ati driver and failed
[08:55] <nabil> i have ati radeon 1x1300 how do i get the resolution 1280X800
[08:56] <age1172> the games runs very slow
[08:56] <DaSkreech> !info kq
[08:56] <ubotu> kq: adventure game in the spirit of Final Fantasy. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.98+cvs.20031006-6.1build1 (dapper), package size 180 kB, installed size 644 kB
[08:56] <nabil> i have ati radeon X1300 how do i get the resolution 1280X800 on my laptop
[08:56] <age1172> and kubuntu is very slow
[08:57] <nabil> i have ati radeon X1300 how do i get the resolution 1280X800 on my laptop after installing kubuntu
[08:57] <Martijn81> intelikey: my pipes?
[08:57] <GeorgeM36Gr> what would you choose in terms of speed and stability? 64 or 32 version of kubuntu?
[08:57] <nabil> i have ati radeon X1300 how do i get the resolution 1280X800 on my laptop after installing kubuntu
[08:57] <intelikey> Martijn81 no.
[08:58] <Martijn81> k :)
[08:58] <age1172> please help
[08:58] <age1172> can i install vga driver for my ati radeon mobility x1600 on kubuntu correctly?
[08:58] <age1172> because i tried with fglrx and ati driver and failed
[08:58] <intelikey> GeorgeM36Gr i'd use 64 if i had a 64bit system.  but you should consider also "what  will and wont run on 64"
[08:59] <age1172> kubuntu is very slow because of that
[08:59] <GeorgeM36Gr> intelikey what it wont work?
[08:59] <age1172> and the games runs very slow
[08:59] <trappist> GeorgeM36Gr: 32bit-only things like flash and windows codecs require some work
[09:00] <nabil> i have ati radeon X1300 how do i get the resolution 1280X800 on my laptop after installing kubuntu
[09:00] <GeorgeM36Gr> trappist flash in webpages and in general?
[09:00] <intelikey> GeorgeM36Gr there are some things that as of yet, have no 64bit support.
[09:00] <trappist> GeorgeM36Gr: yes, for example
[09:00] <trappist> GeorgeM36Gr: there's more than one way to make these things work, but they take some extra effort and know-how
[09:00] <GeorgeM36Gr> is it considerably faster? (the 64bit versioni mean)
[09:01] <Mondor> It can't be.
[09:01] <Mondor> 5-10% maybe.
[09:02] <GeorgeM36Gr> ok since I am a newbie can you help me choose? I am about to download the edgy version for my core2duo system what shall i choose?
[09:02] <GeorgeM36Gr> 32 or 64?
[09:02] <Mondor> Depends from your needs.
[09:02] <Mondor> Do you have a camera, scanner, etc
[09:02] <GeorgeM36Gr> the things that I need to work require XP...so I dont really mind... but office and the like is a nice addition
[09:03] <Mondor> XP is a windows XP? It's 64-bit version is the same crap - no drivers.
[09:03] <GeorgeM36Gr> Mondor xp 32 bit
[09:04] <intelikey> X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
[09:04] <intelikey>   Major opcode:  19
[09:04] <intelikey>   Minor opcode:  0
[09:04] <GeorgeM36Gr> i work with photoshop mainly and wordprocessing
[09:04] <khirr> man
[09:04] <khirr> espaol
[09:04] <B-Minus_> ikroel
[09:04] <khirr> donde esta mi amigo el que habla espaol
[09:04] <khirr> ?
[09:04] <intelikey> !es
[09:04] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:04] <Mondor> And your photoshop is 32-bit, I guess? :)
[09:04] <SiLOX> My computer wont start "devices/platform/i8042/serio0/serio2/bus errror" PLEASE HELP ME!!
[09:05] <GeorgeM36Gr> Mondor yes
[09:05] <Mondor> So no benefits. Install 64-bit then, to not reinstall later.
[09:05] <GeorgeM36Gr> Mondor but as my scanner/photocopier/printer are not supported (drivers) by xp 64 thats why I am still with 32
[09:06] <Mondor> Do you think they will be supported by Kubuntu?
[09:06] <khirr> amigo?
[09:06] <khirr> estaS?
[09:06] <GeorgeM36Gr> Mondor I dont know
[09:06] <GeorgeM36Gr> Mondor no HCL
[09:06] <Mondor> I mean - you can try, see if you can make everything to work, then reinstall if needed. Try it for yourself, that should be fun.
[09:07] <khirr> kien habla espaol?
[09:07] <GeorgeM36Gr> Mondor you are right.... btw does wine work on 64?
[09:07] <intelikey> esay me no comprenda no hoblas espanol
[09:07] <Mondor> Everything works under 64-bits.
[09:08] <cpk2> i think wine might work with chroot
[09:08] <cpk2> for 64bit people
[09:08] <GeorgeM36Gr> hola zorglu_
[09:08] <soulrider> khirr: P<M
[09:08] <soulrider> PM*
[09:08] <mots> well
[09:08] <khirr> ok
[09:08] <Mondor> Good point. But it works, anyway :)
[09:08] <mots> i guess i b0rked konqueror
[09:09] <zorglu_> hi
[09:09] <mots> i deselected all toolbars
[09:09] <mots> and now i don't find any way to add ones
[09:09] <mots> >:O
[09:09] <intelikey> mots so go in the menu and put back what you want
[09:09] <GeorgeM36Gr> ok made up my mind... 32 bit... lol
[09:09] <mots> well
[09:09] <GeorgeM36Gr> thanx for the help guyz
[09:09] <mots> how do I get into the menu?
[09:09] <mots> >:O
[09:09] <zorglu_> mots: try 'ctrl-m'
[09:10] <intelikey> f9 maybe ?
[09:10] <intelikey> i cant check cause i didn't have knoq running when i removed kde
[09:10] <mots> none of those worked
[09:11] <mots> >:O
[09:11] <intelikey> is konqueror running ?
[09:11] <intelikey> it has to be running for that
[09:11] <ubuntu> could someone tell me how to watch the latest flash media on the ubuntu live cd through firefox
[09:12] <intelikey> cant be done
[09:12] <mots> well
[09:12] <mots> for sure its runnin
[09:12] <JacksLivr> afternoon all: i am used to fedora/red hat. I use the chkconfg command to add/remove/list what init scripts fire off at a particular runlevel. what is the equiv in ubuntu? (ex. httpd  0:off  1:off  2:on  3:on  4:off  5:on  6:off)
[09:13] <intelikey> and there is no menu at the top of the konq window mots ?
[09:13] <JacksLivr> update-rc.d looks like it does some of that
[09:13] <SiLOX> My computer wont start "devices/platform/i8042/serio0/serio2/bus errror" PLEASE HELP ME!!
[09:14] <mots> well
[09:14] <mots> nothing
[09:14] <mots> tbh
[09:14] <cpk2> !runlevel
[09:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <cpk2> !init
[09:14] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[09:15] <mots> http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7888/bildschirmfotoaboutblankfinderrf1.png
[09:15] <JacksLivr> cool, thanks, looking now
[09:15] <mots> thats what my konq looks like atm
[09:15] <mots> intelikey: any ideas?
[09:15] <intelikey> you can always reset it to default if you need to.   "logout drop to a console and do; find ~/.kde -name konqueror -exec rm {} \;
[09:15] <mots> well
[09:16] <mots> sounds evil
[09:16] <TheGateKeeper> ubuntu: try this frig...
[09:16] <TheGateKeeper> kate ~/.mozilla/firefox/pluginreg.dat
[09:16] <TheGateKeeper> then change Shockwave Flash 7.0 r68:$ to Shockwave Flash 9.0 r68:$
[09:16] <intelikey> no that would be rm -fr ~ ;cp /etc/skel/.??* ~
[09:16] <mots> intelikey
[09:16] <mots> didn't help in any way
[09:16] <mots> >:O
[09:17] <intelikey> that's a full reset plus data loss
[09:17] <mots> well
[09:17] <mots> did that
[09:17] <mots> nothing changed
[09:17] <mots> >:O
[09:17] <mots> mots@nonsense:~$ find ~/.kde -name konqueror -exec rm {} \;
[09:17] <mots> rm: Entfernen von /home/mots/.kde/share/apps/konqueror nicht mglich: Is a directory
[09:17] <mots> rm: Entfernen von /home/mots/.kde/share/apps/kthememanager/themes/original/wallpapers/konqueror nicht mglich: Is a directory
[09:17] <mots> rm: Entfernen von /home/mots/.kde/share/apps/kstyle/themes/original/wallpapers/konqueror nicht mglich: Is a directory
[09:17] <mots> rm: Entfernen von /home/mots/.kde/share/apps/kstyle/themes/Vista Makeover/wallpapers/konqueror nicht mglich: Is a directory
[09:18] <intelikey> nice flood.   were you logged out when you did that ?  or was kde running ?
[09:19] <intelikey> i've got kde running right but it's no longer installed on this system.
[09:19] <mots> well
[09:20] <LjL> intelikey: wow, that's quite a feat :P
[09:21] <intelikey> LjL not really.    you could sudo apt-get remove `apt-cache search kde | cut -d' ' -f1`        and have the same thing.
[09:21] <ubuntu> gatekeeper I entered the script in terminal it said command not found
[09:21] <LjL> no, i meant, having KDE running without having it installed :P
[09:21] <intelikey> if you wanted.....    :)
[09:21] <intelikey> LjL that's it right there.
[09:21] <intelikey> it's running now remove it.
[09:22] <fdoving> try to start a new kmail session then :)
[09:22] <LjL> uhm, well, yeah, i suppose it would probably keep working for a good 5 minutes admittedly...
[09:22] <khirr> guys
[09:22] <intelikey> until you logout you have it running   but then it's not there to restart.
[09:22] <_Shade_> can i install kubuntu from iso image only?
[09:22] <khirr> i have AMD64 procesor, but, i dunno if i should use kubuntu 64 o 32, what should i do?
[09:22] <LjL> _Shade_: with something like VMWare, possibly
[09:23] <LjL> khirr: if you don't know, then i'd say just use 32
[09:23] <intelikey> been over an hour LjL
[09:23] <fdoving> khirr: go for 32.
[09:23] <khirr> but, what is the diference?
[09:23] <_Shade_> LjL: can't I just unpack the image and then point grub to it ?
[09:23] <trappist> khirr: a lot of 32bit-only stuff like flash and win32 codecs won't work in 64bit mode
[09:23] <trappist> without a bit of work
[09:23] <LjL> khirr: that 64 will run a bit faster (reportedly), however there are things (especially some proprietary packages) that won't run
[09:24] <khirr> uhmmm
[09:24] <LjL> _Shade_: uhm, i don't know if Grub is that smart... but i don't think so
[09:24] <khirr> there isnt problem if i use 32 bi version?
[09:24] <LjL> khirr: no
[09:24] <LjL> khirr: 64-bit x86 processors are backwards compatibly with 32-bit
[09:24] <LjL> compatible even
[09:25] <intelikey> what's the differance in 32 bit and 64 bit.... ah one digit of binary code.....    ;/
[09:25] <khirr> i feel that 32 bit version is inestable comprate with 64 bit version
[09:25] <Sourcey> I'm trying to install my wireless drivers, but I get errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26186/
[09:25] <Sourcey> Could anyone help me out?
[09:25] <LjL> khirr: that might be, but i would find it strange...
[09:25] <_Shade_> LjL: it could be. Some distros launches with grub on their livecd
[09:26] <fdoving> _Shade_: you can make grub boot isos,yes.
[09:26] <khirr> tell me some package that wont run on 64 bit version
[09:26] <LjL> _Shade_: yeah, but then it's actually a CD, and not a CD *image* stuffed (with fragmentation and all, perhaps) onto a random (possibly NTFS) filesystem
[09:26] <trappist> khirr: flash, wine, java plugin
[09:26] <khirr> omg
[09:26] <intelikey> after all there are 10 kinds of people in the world.
[09:26] <khirr> but, i cant run flash sice 32 bit verion :(
[09:26] <_Shade_> fdoving: so how can i do it?
[09:27] <intelikey> those that understand binary and those that dont
[09:27] <MuJ> those who know binary and those whot don't?
[09:27] <trappist> intelikey: those who understan
[09:27] <trappist> yeah
[09:27] <LjL> khirr: you can't run the *most recent* windows version of flash, but you *can* run flash 7, from what i've read here before
[09:27] <khirr> :O
[09:27] <khirr> omg
[09:27] <trappist> LjL: not on amd64, without running 32bit firefox
[09:27] <khirr> i killed my OS
[09:27] <khirr> dont run
[09:27] <khirr> :(
[09:28] <LjL> intelikey: nah, there are ..--- kinds of people in the world
[09:28] <fdoving> _Shade_: don't know, but i'm sure i've read about it somewhere.
[09:28] <intelikey> LjL that's what i said
[09:28] <Arlington> !fat
[09:28] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:28] <LjL> trappist: eh, yeah, that's what i was saying -- that *on 32 bit*, you can run flash, albait an older version than the one you can have on windows
[09:28] <_Shade_> fdoving: me either but i can't find it now
[09:28] <LjL> intelikey: was it?
[09:28] <_Shade_> !grub isos
[09:28] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 353 kB, installed size 748 kB
[09:29] <khirr> ?
[09:29] <intelikey> all in how you read it i guess....
[09:29] <LjL> intelikey, that was not binary (albeit a kind of binary code, yeah) :P
[09:30] <intelikey> moras  ?
[09:30] <intelikey> errr <!sp> morris
[09:31] <LjL> intelikey: for that matter, you could say that there are 49 and 48 kinds of people in the world
[09:31] <intelikey> oh stay out of key codes....
[09:31] <intelikey> yuch
[09:31] <fdoving> _Shade_: maybe you can adopt some of this info: http://wiki.lunar-linux.org/index.php/Installation:No_CD
[09:31] <_Shade_> fdoving: thanks a lot
[09:32] <intelikey> LjL or even   0x02 0x82 && 0x0b 0x8b
[09:33] <LjL> intelikey: exactly
[09:33] <intelikey> like i said  "yuch"
[09:37] <intelikey> i wish kde didn't depend on py
[09:39] <raich> my GL screensavers won't load
[09:39] <nick01> hi Hawkwind :)
[09:39] <trappist> raich: glxinfo | grep rendering
[09:39] <nick01> Hawkwind: do u have mandriva running in vmware now ?
[09:39] <raich> trappist: direct rendering: yes
[09:40] <trappist> raich: when you say "won't load", do you mean xscreensaver doesn't start, or you get like a blank screen, or what?
[09:40] <Hawkwind> nick01: This probably isn't the place to be asking about Mandriva stuff
[09:40] <nick01> Hawkwind: #lfd ?
[09:40] <Hawkwind> nick01: I have it installed in vmware, not running it at the moment
[09:41] <intelikey> hehhe   glxinfo | tac
[09:41] <raich> trappist: when i select them and try to "test", nothing happens ans sometimes when the time has elapsed, the screen sits there, no screensaver
[09:41] <DaSkreech> When did KDe start depending on python?
[09:41] <intelikey> DaSkreech i don't know when.  but it does
[09:41] <DaSkreech> Sure?
[09:43] <raich> do you know how to fix it?
[09:47] <raich> do you know how to fix it?
[09:47] <trappist> raich: no, but I think I saw a bug on malone that fits the description
[09:48] <raich> malone?
[09:49] <fdoving> !bugs
[09:49] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/
[09:49] <fdoving> !malone
[09:49] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[09:50] <fdoving> raich: malone is the website that manages bugs for ubuntu. it's basically http://bugs.ubuntu.com/
[09:50] <raich> ok ty
[09:57] <ubuntu> could someone tell me how I can watch trailers from quicktime using the live cd
[09:57] <ubuntu> can someone please help me
[09:57] <fdoving> !at
[09:57] <fdoving> ehm.
[09:57] <ubotu> at: Delayed job execution and batch processing. In component main, is standard. Version 3.1.9ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 40 kB, installed size 208 kB
[09:58] <cgeo> is there any way that i can install AIGLX in kubuntu without installing gnome libraries???
[09:58] <fdoving> ubuntu: you need to install codecs.
[09:58] <fdoving> !codecs > ubuntu
[10:04] <felixjet> where can i dl the libsdl-net ? i got it corrupt and now i cant use apt-get
[10:04] <scott_w|lappy> yo, i've got a bit of a problem getting flash to work
[10:04] <scott_w|lappy> simply put, it hates me
[10:04] <fdoving> felixjet: packages.ubuntu.com
[10:05] <scott_w|lappy> i've tried installing the version from adept but that doesn't work
[10:05] <scott_w|lappy> is it just konqueror or is the flash package broken?
[10:05] <SeanTater> scott_w|lappy: did you install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:05] <scott_w|lappy> yes
[10:05] <SeanTater> scott_w|lappy: neither
[10:05] <SeanTater> scott_w|lappy: konqueror needs a but of setup for it to work
[10:05] <felixjet> fdoving: but it dl corrupt
[10:06] <scott_w|lappy> SeanTater: linkage to somewhere?
[10:06] <SeanTater> scott_w|lappy: go to konqueror -> settings -> configure Konqueror -> plugins -> scan for new plugins, then click OK
[10:06] <cgeo> is there any way that i can install AIGLX in kubuntu without installing gnome libraries???
[10:07] <DaSkreech> Yes
[10:07] <DaSkreech> You just can't use it :)
[10:08] <cgeo> hhmmmm yeah i thought of that :) Just wanted to show off a little bit
[10:08] <Buchinho> hi
[10:09] <Buchinho> kann mir jemand den unterschied zwischen einem compiler und einem interpreter sagen?
[10:09] <DaSkreech> !de
[10:09] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:09] <Buchinho> oh i'm sorry
[10:09] <SeanTater> Buchinho: english!
[10:09] <Buchinho> i know this is off topic
[10:09] <DaSkreech> !o-t
[10:09] <SeanTater> !offtopic
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about o-t - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[10:09] <DaSkreech> Damn ;-)
[10:10] <Buchinho> jeeez
[10:10] <SeanTater> Buchinho: tehre is #ubuntu-offoptic too
[10:11] <ubuntu> hello
[10:11] <piccololinux> dato che a scuola abbiamo la rete lan io nn sono riuscito a connettermi alla rete con il portatile help
[10:11] <ubuntu> i have a problem installing kubuntu on my laptop
[10:12] <abattoir> !it
[10:12] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:12] <abattoir> piccololinux: ^^^^
[10:12] <piccololinux> ok
[10:12] <ubuntu> i have an acer aspire 1692 WLMi
[10:12] <ubuntu> and when i start the cd.. after loading everything i get a black screen.. my screen is turned of
[10:12] <ubuntu> off*
[10:13] <bastiq> what's the name of ati's driver?
[10:13] <ubuntu> my graphics card is an ATI radeon X700
[10:13] <bastiq> the name i should use for it in xorg
[10:13] <abattoir> bastiq: fglrx ?
[10:13] <bastiq> thx! :)
[10:13] <abattoir> ubuntu: have you tried booting in the 'Safe mode' ?
[10:13] <ubuntu> yes
[10:14] <intelikey> !ati
[10:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:14] <ubuntu> it gets stuck at some point when loading..
[10:14] <jhutchins_wk> !codecs
[10:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:15] <ubuntu> it doesnt get to the point where the live cd is fully loaded and i can actuallu try or install ubuntu
[10:15] <ubuntu> so what should i do?
[10:15] <ubuntu> people said i should edit some sort of a configuration file so that it doesnt turn off my screen
[10:16] <ubuntu> how do i do that?
[10:16] <DaSkreech> !editor
[10:16] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[10:16] <abattoir> ubuntu: is only your screen turned off? are you sure?
[10:16] <abattoir> ubuntu: or is it frozen at a particular point?
[10:17] <ubuntu> no turned off completely
[10:17] <ubuntu> cuz when i press the power button afterwards
[10:17] <ubuntu> the screen is turned on
[10:17] <ubuntu> and it starts unloading everythign
[10:17] <ubuntu> everything*
[10:18] <abattoir> ubuntu: ok, you might need to use a special boot parameter when booting the live cd
[10:18] <ubuntu> which is?
[10:19] <abattoir> ubuntu: press F6 in the boot menu
[10:19] <ubuntu> ok
[10:19] <ubuntu> and then?
[10:19] <lupine_85> !ksvtg
[10:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ksvtg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:19] <abattoir> ugh, wait, let me type :P
[10:19] <lupine_85> !ksvg
[10:19] <ubotu> ksvg: SVG viewer for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 1149 kB, installed size 4028 kB
[10:20] <bluch> !webcam
[10:20] <abattoir> ubuntu: linux debian-installer/framebuffer=false
[10:20] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:21] <ubuntu> and that should solve my problem?
[10:21] <abattoir> ubuntu: i think so
[10:21] <ubuntu> sometimes when i press F6 there's a line of commands already there.. just right that next to it?
[10:22] <abattoir> ubuntu: i dont have a live cd qemu image handy, so am not sure if 'linux' has been changed to 'install'
[10:22] <ubuntu> ok can try install if linux doesnt work
[10:22] <ubuntu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AcerAspire1692WLMi?highlight=%28aspire%29
[10:22] <ubuntu> can you check this link please?
[10:22] <ubuntu> it describes my problem
[10:23] <ubuntu> how can i edit whats displayed down there at the bottom of the page
[10:23] <abattoir> ubuntu: you said safe boot doesnt work for you, right?
[10:24] <ubuntu> yes
[10:24] <abattoir> ubuntu: you'd need a launchpad a/c, and then click on Edit at the top of the page
[10:24] <ubuntu> launchpad a/c?
[10:24] <abattoir> launchpad.net
[10:24] <abattoir> http://www.launchpad.net
[10:24] <abattoir> !launchpad
[10:25] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[10:25] <ubuntu> ok thank you so much
[10:25] <ubuntu> i'll go try that now
[10:25] <ubuntu> the command line you gave me
[10:32] <pike__> what is equivalent of usleep ? i need to make something sleep for like 2000 microseconds..
[10:34] <nico> hi
[10:34] <nico> wie fahr ich meinen rechner nach einer bestimmten zeit runter ?
[10:35] <lupine_85> !de
[10:35] <lupine_85> ?
[10:35] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:35] <fdoving> pike__: can't you use 'sleep 0.01' and so on?
[10:35] <nebi> can i install driver for dwl-g122 usb wifi in kubuntu?
[10:35] <lupine_85> nebi: revision b1 or c1 ?
[10:35] <nebi> revicion c1
[10:36] <lupine_85> that's an rt73 chip then
[10:36] <lupine_85> see http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/
[10:36] <nebi> when i can download this driver please?
[10:36] <lupine_85> or update to edgy, which has the drivers out of the box ;)
[10:36] <lupine_85> right now, from there
[10:36] <lupine_85> ever compiled your own kernel module?
[10:38] <nebi> sorry, version  Latest BETA rt2570 driver: v1.1.0-b2
[10:39] <lupine_85> you don't want that
[10:39] <lupine_85> it's the wrong oner
[10:39] <lupine_85> use the rt2x00 driver
[10:39] <lupine_85> rt2570 is the b1 revision of the hardware
[10:41] <bastiq> how do i reconfigure my xorg file?
[10:41] <bastiq> i'm on a ati
[10:42] <cpk2> bastiq: you can edit it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:42] <bastiq> yea, but i think it's beyond manual repair :P
[10:42] <cpk2> or if you want I guess dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg not really sure what you are asking
[10:43] <cpk2> as sudo
[10:43] <bastiq> thanks, i'll try it
[10:43] <nebi> ok a have the driver , i cant copilate de driver how?
[10:45] <nebi> i open the console in directory i make install?
[10:45] <lupine_85> first run sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential
[10:45] <lupine_85> that'll get all the essentiall stuff that you need
[10:45] <lupine_85> in the directory run make && sudo make install
[10:45] <lupine_85> but the make install is probably broken, in which case copy *.ko into /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/extra
[10:46] <intelikey> i read that uuoc one time.  unless it's changed there is an error in the examples.  namely;  `ls *` != *
[10:46] <nebi> ok i install sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential
[10:47] <lupine_85> using apt-get, yes
[10:47] <nebi> ok installed sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential
[10:48] <lupine_85> ok, now open a terminal; cd into the directory; run "make"
[10:49] <wildchild> !c++
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <josh_> !mp3
[10:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:50] <nebi> ok all installed with make
[10:50] <bastiq> there is something wrong with mu acpi so i can't update the kernel to match the driver version!
[10:50] <bastiq> i think...
[10:50] <bastiq> damn i'm bright :P
[10:51] <bastiq> and i don't even know what acpi is
[10:51] <zorglu_> too bright for that :)
[10:51] <bastiq> yup, it's too low-tech :P
[10:51] <bastiq> well, anyone got an ida of how to fix it?
[10:52] <zorglu_> well unfortunatly your bright report doesnt make much sense :)
[10:52] <nebi> lupine_85 ?
[10:52] <lupine_85> yep
[10:52] <zorglu_> bastiq: acpi can't prevent you from updating a kernel, nor need a special driker :)
[10:53] <nebi> all make installed
[10:53] <zorglu_> driver
[10:53] <bastiq> Hmm... well. Something is wrong since i can't get the 2.6.17 kernel
[10:53] <lupine_85> ok, and if you run "sudo depmod -a" followed by "sudop modprobe 80211 && sudo modprobe rate_control && sudo modprobe rt73" what happens?
[10:53] <bastiq> and it complains of acpi when i try to update it
[10:55] <bastiq> lupine_85: me?
[10:55] <anders0> I have af major problem installing edgy, is this the right place to ask for help?
[10:55] <lupine_85> erm, s/sudop/sudo/
[10:55] <lupine_85> no, nebi
[10:55] <bastiq> anders0: I guess
[10:55] <anders0> 1. The Desktop cd dosnt work, the display fails and i cant get a commandline
[10:56] <anders0> So i get the alternate cd
[10:56] <|lostbyte|x> !kubuntu+1
[10:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu+1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:56] <lupine_85> just #ubuntu+1
[10:56] <lupine_85> kubuntu+1 users in there too
[10:56] <lupine_85> incl. me :)
[10:57] <anders0> and i get 94% through "Select and install software", and it stops at "Configuring language-support-en"
[10:57] <arepie> is it possible for me install ATI driver without an error?
[10:57] <anders0> and its completly frozen, no ctrl+alt+f2
[10:57] <bastiq> anders0: Well, i would just wait for the proper release. I guess there's not too muck to do about it if it's the cd. At least not that i know of
[10:58] <nebi> lupine_85
[10:58] <lupine_85> ?
[10:58] <anders0> seems kind of weird that no one would have noticed in knot1-3 :s
[10:58] <nebi> i have all installed from make?
[10:58] <bastiq> maybe it's your cd thats broken
[10:58] <lupine_85> probably not
[10:58] <bastiq> try to download the iso again and burn it on a slow speed
[10:58] <lupine_85> it's designed for fedora
[10:58] <anders0> and the cd check fails, i tried burning it twice.. once from windows, and once from mac with a new iso
[10:59] <lupine_85> just copy the .ko files into /lib/modules/(your-kernel-here)/extra
[10:59] <anders0> excatly same results
[10:59] <lupine_85> then run sudo depmod -a
[10:59] <jdawiz> can I ask if there is a converter from .3g2 to another format here.  I have been looking but haven't had much luck
[10:59] <lupine_85> make the dir if needed
[10:59] <DaSkreech> lupine_85: Any fluxbuntu+1 users?
[11:00] <lupine_85> probably not ;)
[11:00] <bastiq> anders0: What happens if you install dapper and upgrade it?
[11:00] <anders0> guess i could try finding my old cd
[11:00] <anders0> but that Desktop cd didnt work either, im REALLY unlucky with my linux installs
[11:01] <anders0> no matter what distro :)
[11:01] <josh_> is there a package i can install to ghost a drive to another drive
[11:01] <bastiq> Maybe it's your cd reader or something.
[11:01] <lupine_85> use the alt install CD
[11:01] <anders0> perhaps
[11:01] <jdawiz> g4l worked for me
[11:01] <bastiq> Try with a external cd
[11:01] <bastiq> well, i've gotta go
[11:01] <bastiq> cya
[11:01] <jdawiz> josh_ g4l worked for me
[11:01] <lupine_85> that works with many more hw combinations
[11:03] <josh_> i need a package
[11:03] <josh_> something quick
[11:03] <felixjet> http://package.ubuntu.com
[11:03] <felixjet> wait
[11:03] <jdawiz> you could use the "dd" command
[11:04] <felixjet> http://packages.ubuntu.com **
[11:06] <DaSkreech> josh_: dd if=/dev/hd<partition number> of=/path/to/ghostfile
[11:06] <lupine_85> bs=512
[11:06] <jdawiz> josh_:   http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l
[11:06] <josh_> will it make the whole drive ext3
[11:06] <fdoving> josh_: partimage, it's in the repos.
[11:06] <lupine_85> dd is teh r0x0r
[11:09] <arepie> is it possible for me install ATI driver without an error?
[11:10] <jdawiz> fdoving:  thanks didn't know of that one
[11:11] <ukAdamF> Howdy all. I nipped in this morning with a problem about Kubuntu (having installed kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu) forgetting my dns settings every reboot and having to reset them in system settings each time...
[11:11] <lupine_85> stick them in /etc/resolv.conf
[11:11] <ukAdamF> While no one had an exact idea, I've since solved the issue by placing my dns servers in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base
[11:11] <ukAdamF> lupine_85 : I did, and upon each reboot, they magically vanished ;)
[11:11] <lupine_85> ah.. that could work too :)
[11:11] <lupine_85> hmm. in
[11:12] <lupine_85>  /etc/network/interfaces ?
[11:12] <lupine_85> e.g. dns-nameserver some-ip
[11:12] <ukAdamF> doesn't support dns data, someone else thought of that one this morning.
[11:12] <ukAdamF> Was just really a "this is my workaround" in case anyone else comes in with similar problems
[11:13] <scion> hello all
[11:13] <ukAdamF> So thanks for the pointers this morning, and thanks for a great piece of software (if any of the developers are in) :)
[11:15] <DaSkreech> Riddell: That means you :)
[11:20] <DaSkreech> Sorry
[11:23] <LeeJunFan> wow, busy place tonight.
[11:24] <DaSkreech> :-)
[11:25] <arepie> hello, can i install ATI Radeon driver from ati website?
[11:27] <andre_> hi, anybody knows why some apache stuff was renambed to '.dpkg-new' like in dav_svn.conf.dpkg-new?
[11:28] <agoole> io!
[11:28] <shafqat> quit
[11:28] <agoole> why quit ?
[11:30] <felixjet> XD
[11:30] <felixjet> agoole:  type /quit
[11:30] <felixjet> lol
[11:31] <fdoving> andre_: because during installation you chose to keep the current configuration. the dpkg-new files is just the file that comes with the package by default.
[11:31] <fdoving> andre_: during upgrade, is more correct to say.
[11:32] <agoole> hahaha right
[11:32] <agoole> right
[11:34] <fdoving> gnite.
[11:35] <Max_-> some software needs libatk1.0-0 to run... I loaded libatk1.0-dev ... now it still says I need libatk1.0-1 .. so I searched.. found the deb package.. but I cant Install it, it says I already have newer version... even if I apt-get remove the 1.0-dev one!!.. how can I do???
[11:38] <JacksLivr> iptables is not installed as an init script. in fedora i would type "chkconfg --add iptables" to add it. how do i do this in kubuntu?
[11:39] <apokryphos> JacksLivr: might be worth trying in #ubuntu
[11:41] <dec_> I just installed ubuntu and I am trying to play a dvd movie totem noatun, and movie player will not play it any suggestions
[11:42] <dec_> I just installed ubuntu and I am trying to play a dvd movie totem noatun, and movie player will not play it any suggestions
[11:43] <gpeek> dec_: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability
 right i understand,  thanks
[11:49] <TheGateKeeper> dec_: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability
[11:58] <thunderstorm> hi@all
[12:02] <holoton1> I am an experimental DJ at an FM radio station, and was looking for some good software that I could use to lay out the tracks for my show, do transitions between them, and play with a few effects here and there; Any suggestions?