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thunderstormcan someone help me with the "tar"-command?12:14
gnomefreakthunderstorm: what about it12:15
thunderstormif i use the "tar cvfz" command, the file contains the owner and access-rights?12:16
thunderstormis that correct?12:16
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gnomefreakthunderstorm: i dont understand. the tar shouldnt have any permissions on it other than read and write all.12:17
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thunderstormhm, my english is not so good ;-)12:17
gnomefreakany user should beable to untar a package12:17
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thunderstormok, otherwise: when i unpack these tgz-file, the restored files have all permissions and owner rights?12:18
larson9999linux rocks!12:18
method|how can i get k3b to allow me to burn a cd without sudoing?12:19
gnomefreakthunderstorm: it depends on what files are in it12:19
Hawkwindthunderstorm: They have the owner/perms of the user you untarred them as12:19
gnomefreakHawkwind: the make install file in tars have a permission set for sudo12:19
gzevsperoHi, I'd like to install winxp, win vista, and kubuntu on the same computer. Can this be done, and if so, how would I partition the 2 drives and in which order would I install the OS's?12:19
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Hawkwindgnomefreak: Huh ?12:20
gnomefreakif its just pictures or themes anyone should beable to run it12:20
thunderstormok, but when i archive an file have 777, have this file these rights after unzip?12:20
Hawkwindgnomefreak: Not here they don't12:20
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Hawkwindgnomefreak: If you untar the file as normal user, then all files have normal user perms12:20
gnomefreakHawkwind: to compile a tar you need to use sudo make install you cant just use make install12:20
Hawkwindthunderstorm: Yes12:20
Hawkwindgnomefreak: Not necessarily12:20
gnomefreakyes12:20
Hawkwindgnomefreak: I have tons and tons of files that make install can be done as normal user12:21
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gnomefreaki havent yet seen it or it can but it will screw up permissions app wide12:21
larson9999depends one whether you want to install them locally or not12:21
Hawkwindgnomefreak: That is not correct12:21
Hawkwindgnomefreak: There are millions of things that can be installed without sudo using make install. Firefox is a prime example of this12:21
thunderstormHawkwind & gnomefreak: thank you - i dont must give an specific parameter for tar12:22
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gnomefreakHawkwind: firefox isnt compiled like most apps12:22
gnomefreakall you do it untar it12:22
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gnomefreakand move it around12:22
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gnomefreakHawkwind: if you notice anything that has a make file sudo make install is used12:23
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Hawkwindgnomefreak: Half of E17 happens to be built without using sudo actually12:23
gnomefreakFF and TB are differnet12:23
Hawkwindgnomefreak: No it's not12:23
HawkwindLOL12:23
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Hawkwindgnomefreak: Do a checkout of CVS for E17 and specifically look in e/e_modules12:23
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gnomefreakHawkwind: cvs is differnret12:24
HawkwindYou can actually install anything that you compile using make install and not sudo, anything12:24
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gnomefreakHawkwind: tar not cvs or svn12:24
Hawkwindgnomefreak: Any of it12:24
ubuntu_guys i have an emergency and i need help please :( i was on windows and i deleted my linux partitions to make more space but now GRUB still starts and i cant get into windows because it errors out. i am on the linux livecd right now :(12:24
HawkwindIt doesn't matter. You use sudo to install it globally.  If you don't use sudo you install it as that user and only that user can run that app12:24
gnomefreakHawkwind: so the guides tell you to use sudo because they have nothing better to do?12:24
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Hawkwindgnomefreak: They tell you to use sudo so that it's installed globally so that any user on the system can run it12:25
gnomefreakHawkwind: yes but again that diesnt give app wide permissions as i stated12:25
HawkwindI've done packaging for a few years now, and can prove this12:25
Hawkwindgnomefreak: What do you mean by 'wide permissions'  ??12:25
gnomefreakapp wide =global12:25
gnomefreakanyone can run the app12:26
gnomefreaksorry if that was confusing you12:26
HawkwindRight, if you use sudo.  If you just do make install then only the user who performed it can run it and no one else12:26
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HawkwindThere is nothing out there that can't be installed using just make install.  The make files do not have root perms/ownership12:26
helpplzguys i have an emergency and i need help please :( i was on windows and i deleted my linux partitions to make more space but now GRUB still starts and i cant get into windows because it errors out. i am on the linux livecd right now :(12:26
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gnomefreakhelpplz: more than likely its not recoverable since you deleted part sof a partition12:27
Hawkwindhelpplz: Did you actually delete the partition with the information on it, as in, is the information gone ?12:27
helpplzwhat i am asking is how to delete GRUB or simply get into my windows12:27
helpplz=\12:28
helpplznot to recover the linux12:28
gnomefreakhelpplz: in a windows recovery console type fixmbr12:28
Hawkwindhelpplz: Boot the Windows CD, and run fixmbr or fdisk, whatever it is that OS uses12:28
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helpplzhmm windows recovery console? my recovery thing is in a FAT32 partition, stupid gateway12:29
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helpplzall i can do is get into BIOS system utilities, etc12:29
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gnomefreakhelpplz: boot windows cd adn choose recover broken windows12:29
helpplzi dont have a windows cd though12:29
gnomefreakor whatever its called12:29
helpplzhmm12:29
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helpplzill check if i can boot that partition through the bios12:30
helpplzthanx12:30
gnomefreakwell than i hope you didnt screw with anything on windows partition including grub if its on the windows drive12:30
helpplzi didnt touch anything on the windows partitions, i just deleted the linux partitions and used the unallocated space to make my windows partition bigger...12:30
helpplz=\12:30
gnomefreakor like grub,win1,win2,ubuntu1,ubuntu512:30
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gnomefreakim not sure if parted will help with mbr or not12:31
helpplzhm12:31
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gnomefreakif it does than you should beable to run parted from livecd12:31
gnomefreakbrb reboot12:32
helpplzk12:32
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fred_fdfsd12:33
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Max_-some software needs libatk1.0-0 to run... I loaded libatk1.0-dev ... now it still says I need libatk1.0-1 .. so I searched.. found the deb package.. but I cant Install it, it says I already have newer version... even if I apt-get remove the 1.0-dev one!!.. how can I do???12:37
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mabreauxhello all12:42
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grasmeerHi! Anyone who had installed the updates today? Are they working or will the system hang?12:45
fred_which one ?12:46
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mabreauxno updates for me today12:46
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SkuggiGjust now noticed that there were some updates12:47
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fred_linux-restricted-modules ?12:48
SkuggiGjust some stuff to python and cpio from dapper-security12:48
fred_aah ok12:49
grasmeer87 updates, but just updated the system three (4?) days ago...12:49
grasmeerrestricted modules, lib*, sudo, kmail, bla bla...12:49
fred_did u install edgy ?12:50
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grasmeeredgy eft...12:50
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fred_yep :-) don't know what it means12:51
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grasmeerwhat: dont know...?12:51
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ricanelitecan someone help me out, New to Ubuntu Linux12:51
grasmeerperhaps...12:51
fred_edgy eft12:52
ricaneliteI'm trying to change my Desktop Icons text, right now they are in White but will like to change them to black12:52
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ricanelitecan anyone help me please12:54
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brahmamurtiyou have icons on your desktop?12:54
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grasmeersorry, no idea, perhaps: apperarance, style...12:55
grasmeerUpdates?12:55
fred_may be "system settings" -> appearence -> fonts12:55
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method|anybody got aiglx+beryl installed on their systems?12:57
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ricaneliteis it possible to put the KDE Trash bin in the Desktop?01:08
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apokryphosricanelite: http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#showtrash01:09
SkuggiGumm... should be01:09
knubbewhere do i find kde control center?01:09
apokryphosknubbe: Kubuntu uses KDE System Settings as opposed to KControl01:09
apokryphosbut kcontrol is still accessible via alt+f2 -> kcontrol01:10
knubbeah, ok01:10
knubbethanks.01:11
knubbethats where i set my default programs? default email client and so on...?01:11
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Hawkwind!mp3 > bomber01:15
FaLc[ON] 2ciao ragazzi potete darmi un aiuto con kdevelop?01:15
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bomber!mp301:16
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:16
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VanessaEevening all01:18
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KrAmMeR__i am having trouble installing new kdm themes...01:19
Hawkwindbomber: When I did !mp3 > bomber it should have sent you that info in pm01:19
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bomberyes i got it... thanks01:21
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KrAmMeR__!kdm01:23
ubotukdm: X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 600 kB, installed size 1468 kB01:23
Hawkwind!kdmthemes > KrAmMeR__01:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdmthemes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:24
Hawkwind!kdmtheme > KrAmMeR__01:24
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highLighterhow do I connect to a server?01:25
LjLtelnet hostname port01:26
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bomberHawkwind:  seems like a project01:27
KrAmMeR__i know i have it in the write place01:27
KrAmMeR__right*01:27
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arepie!howto01:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about howto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:27
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menacehi everyone01:28
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bomberHawkwind: whats synaptic package manager?01:29
LjL!synaptic01:29
ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto01:29
rojikaruDr Willis01:29
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rojikaruSomeone of equal knowledge.01:30
menaceI am in need of two programs. which i was hoping someone here would know something like them. i need an XISO program, like craxtion. and a nice FTP program like smartFTP. does anyone have any ideas on equivalent programs?01:30
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menaceanyone?01:33
Hawkwindmenace: kftpgrabber, kbear, gftp, and many many more01:33
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Hawkwindmenace: The other one you mentioned must be Windows stuff and I haven't touched Windows in 5 years so I have no idea what they are01:33
menaceok thanks01:34
menacewhats your favorite ftp program?01:34
rojikaruFTP IS NOT GOOD.01:34
VanessaEopera. :)01:34
rojikarussh is the better choice sercurity wise.01:34
bombermenace an xiso program meaning a graphical burning program?01:35
menaceim FTP'ing to my xbox rojikaru01:35
menaceyes...www.craxtion.com01:35
menacelike that01:35
bombergftp is awesome01:35
rojikaruWhy are you ftping to your Xbox? You putting roms on there?01:35
arepiei've installed fglrx driver, and, OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org <-- it should be ATI Technologies Inc. rite?01:35
halcon_irc hispano01:35
menacenope01:35
menace!es01:35
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.01:35
menacerojikaru: im backing up my xbox games.01:36
Hawkwindmenace: I don't use FTP programs, but you can use sftp:// in konqueror01:36
menaceok thanks01:36
Hawkwindmenace: For burning stuff, use k3b01:36
halcon_#ubuntu-es01:36
arepiemenace:  im using firefox extension fireftp01:36
menaceHawkwind: i need craxtion to create the .iso01:36
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menacearepie: firefox wont run on my system for some reason...01:37
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Hawkwindmenace: Why ?  You can do that with mkisofs01:37
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HawkwindIf firefox won't run, then you're doing something wrong01:37
menaceHawkwind: i didnt know that...01:37
arepiemenace: install with adept?01:37
menaceits my flashplugin-nonfree package01:37
Hawkwindmenace: Did you sudo apt-get install firefox or did you compile it from mozilla.org ?01:37
menaceits messed up somehow01:37
menacei used adept01:37
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menacei cant even watch videos online now01:38
Hawkwindmenace: So remove the flashplugin package01:38
menacebecause of the flash plugin-nonfree01:38
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menacebut i need it to watch videos online...and run frostwire01:38
menaceand i removed and re-installed but it didnt work01:38
Hawkwindmenace: Have you removed your ~/.mozilla directory ?01:38
menaceim not sure let me check01:39
Hawkwindmenace: Or rather make a backup of it, then remove it, then try running firefox ?01:39
menacei dont know how to do all that01:39
menaceand i dont really need firefox01:39
menacei like konq01:39
menaceand btw...gaim wont run either01:39
Hawkwindmenace: cp -a ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-old01:39
Hawkwindmenace: Or, mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-old01:40
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Hawkwindmenace: Preferably do the second one01:40
arepiemenace: i rather use kopete01:40
arepie!ati01:40
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:40
Hawkwindkopete is an instant messenger, that's not what he's after01:41
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HawkwindOh, he mentioned gaim, heh, sorry01:41
Hawkwindmenace: Sounds like you have serious issues you need to tend to first01:41
jon_are video cards plug and play?01:41
VanessaEjon: not really01:41
Hawkwindjon_: Depends on what you mean by plug and play exactly01:41
menacei cant find mkisofs on my system. but it says its installed01:41
menaceok. how can i do that hawk?01:41
VanessaEfrom the perspective of the text console, generally yeah01:41
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Hawkwindjon_: Most Nvidia are, even though you have to install the drivers afterwards01:41
VanessaEfrom a graphics perspective, no.01:41
jon_well01:41
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jon_when i put one in01:42
jon_all i have is the terminal01:42
Hawkwindmenace: Is this a fresh install of Dapper ?01:42
Hawkwindjon_: What kind of card ?01:42
jon_lemme look01:42
menaceim really not sure. sorry for my ignorance01:42
menacei re-installed linux to try to fix this01:42
Hawkwindmenace: Ummm, how did you install or did you do an upgrade ?01:42
menaceinstall from CD01:43
jon_looks like it says nvidia01:43
menaceshould i upgrade my dapper?01:43
Hawkwindjon_: Nvidia what ?01:43
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Hawkwindmenace: What you need to do is run these apps from a terminal and see what error messages you get01:44
jon_im really not sure what im looking for, someone gave this to me01:44
menacestrace firefox?01:44
Hawkwindmenace: Then paste those messages to a pastebin for us to see and then we can go from there01:44
jon_n119?01:44
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Hawkwindmenace: No, just firefox from a terminal01:44
menaceok01:44
VanessaEwell, if he does an lspci it should tell him what kind of vid card01:44
Hawkwindjon_: FX5200, 6600GT or what ?  That's what you need to know01:45
VanessaEeven without the binary driver01:45
Hawkwindjon_: Is the card installed right now in the computer ?01:45
VanessaEe.g. --->  0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV40 [GeForce 6800]  (rev a1)01:45
highLighter do I accept a file? it always fails to download showing "unsupported negoiation"01:45
jon_nope im running onboard video currently01:45
menace!pastebin01:45
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:45
jon_when i install i all i get is like a virtual terminal01:46
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jon_i mean when i plug it in01:46
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Hawkwindjon_: You'll want to put the card in, disable the onboard video if need be in your BIOS, then boot the system01:46
kharn_hey peeps im new to Linux and am looking for the Lamp package for this distro can u tell me where i can find it? i installed from desktop cd01:46
Hawkwindjon_: Once you get to the terminal, try doing sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx01:46
menacehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26218/01:46
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menacethere you are hawkwind01:46
Hawkwind!lamp01:46
ubotulamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.01:46
menacebtw...thanks for the help..i really appreciate it01:46
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Hawkwindmenace: And firefox never starts ?01:47
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jon_thanks01:47
Hawkwindmenace:  ??01:48
menaceHawkwind: it starts up, but the scroll bar its all pixelated and wont work01:48
kharn_thx01:48
Hawkwindmenace: Close firefox and do this from a terminal:  mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-old01:48
menaceHawkwind: and firefox completely freezes up01:48
menacek01:48
Hawkwindmenace: Then try to restart firefox01:49
menacenope still messes up01:49
menaceoh sorry01:49
Hawkwindmenace: If it's still messed up, then you need to take a screenshot so we can see what it looks like01:49
menaceyea still messing up...let me upload the image real quick01:51
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menacehttp://img174.imageshack.us/img174/479/firefoxhn8.png01:52
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menacepersonally...i think its flashplugin-nonfree and baghira window decorations thats not letting everything run properly...01:53
menacebut your the expert01:53
Hawkwindmenace: Looks like a theme issue01:53
Hawkwindmenace: I'd seriously consider changing your theme and see what happens01:53
menaceok01:53
menacechange my windows decoration?01:54
menaceor everything01:54
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waspiushi anyone know what codecs i can use in mplayer for sound in movies?i have w3201:56
menace!mpe01:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mpe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:56
menace!mp301:57
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:57
waspiusok thanx01:57
Amorityhow useful, that ubotu lol01:57
menaceHawkwind: firefox works...but frostwire still wont run01:57
menaceAmority: lol yea01:57
Hawkwind!codecs > waspius01:57
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Hawkwindmenace: Frostwire is a p2p app and is very poorly coded.  I'd find something else to use IMO.  If you're doing torrents, then use ktorrent or bittorrent01:58
VanessaEfrostwire giving you a runFrost.sh error01:58
VanessaE?01:58
menaceVanessaE: it just doesnt run01:58
VanessaErun it from a terminal01:58
menaceHawkwind: im using ktorrent at the momment...its just crazy slow01:58
VanessaEsee what error spew you get01:58
menaceit cant find my sun-java-jre01:59
VanessaEohhh01:59
AmorityVanessaE, do you have sun-java-jre01:59
menacei have sun-java-jre though01:59
VanessaEamority: it runs fine for me, just trying to help Menace01:59
AmorityAhh I see ok01:59
schizzzeehey gota question... how do you get the network settings to automatically change when you switch networks? i mean dhcp is enabled but it still retains the old ip settings.02:00
menacean ideas VanessaE?02:00
VanessaEoff the top of my head, no :-/02:00
menaceok thanks anways02:00
VanessaEfor me, it just magically found it :)02:00
VanessaEhowever,02:00
VanessaEI installed java directly from Sun's official package (put it in /opt/jre_blahblah)02:01
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Hawkwindmenace: Probably a wrong config setting somewhere then02:01
CVirus!kernel02:01
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild02:01
VanessaE(I've never had much luck with nvidia, jave, or flash as supplied by any distro's repositories)02:02
VanessaEMenace, is there anything in /etc/profile and the like that sets environment variables regarding java?02:04
VanessaE(for me, there is not)02:05
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|WAL|I have a samba issue02:12
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jeroenvrpwhen someone with ubuntu does sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; will kdm come-up automaticaly after a restart of X?02:14
|WAL|I can get to a remote samba share of mine through "Remote places" but I can't add it to the "Disk & Filesystems"02:14
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mabreauxany one running edgy? how stable is it, do you think they will make the 26th on October date?02:16
VanessaEedgy is fairly stable but development is pretty active02:16
VanessaEso stuff might still break02:16
mabreauxare you running it?02:17
Tm_Tor unbreak ;)02:17
VanessaEfrom what my husband and I can tell, only a few minor issues exist02:17
VanessaEmy husband is, I run dapper02:17
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Tm_Tbut I'm more developer than regular user02:17
VanessaETm: heh, right...  like the Ctrl+Alt+Plus bit :)02:17
mabreauxwhere can I fine the bug still on edgy? and do they have a live cd of it?02:17
VanessaEcan't answer either of those :)02:18
VanessaE(hubby upgraded by tweaking sources.list)02:18
VanessaEnow, bugs...02:19
VanessaElesse02:19
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CowHighhi02:19
mabreauxis there a kubuntu edgy irc?02:19
VanessaEyou would normally go here for bugs, it seems-->  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+bugs02:20
VanessaEbut the database is empty02:20
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CowHighsorry, could you tell me a diferents between CD and DVD relase of kubuntu?02:20
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mabreauxlink says : There are currently no open bugs.02:20
LjLDVD has more packages on it -- that hsould be all02:20
CowHighand is it still live/install cd?02:21
CowHighdvd02:21
VanessaEyes02:22
CowHighnice, thx02:22
VanessaEbut you should stick with the CD if you can spare the bandwidth wherever you plan to install02:22
|WAL|I can get to a remote samba share of mine through "Remote places" but I can't add it to the "Disk & Filesystems"02:22
jeroenvrpanyone has an answer on the question I asked?02:22
VanessaEnot I, sorry jeroen02:23
mabreauxjust found this one : https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyKnownProblems02:23
VanessaEWAL, do you have smbmount installed?02:23
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maxime_hi02:24
|WAL|VanessaE: nope, couldn't figure out where to get it in the repositories02:24
VanessaEsmbfs might be it02:25
|WAL|I get an error trying to get it02:26
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VanessaEwhat error?02:26
|WAL|The following packages have unmet dependencies:02:26
|WAL|  smbfs: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.22-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 is to b                                                                                                   e installed02:26
|WAL|E: Broken packages02:26
VanessaEack02:26
maxime_what tools to emulate my windows ?02:26
VanessaEmaxime: there are a number of choices..  wine works for some, vmware and bochs work for others02:27
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mabreauxand crossover02:27
maxime_i has problem to wine ...02:27
|WAL|VanessaE: could I be missing a repository?02:27
VanessaEWAL: I'm not sure.  Did you try   sudo apt-get -f install02:28
VanessaEsee if it can resolve the dependency issue?02:28
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|WAL|VanessaE: just tried, no uck02:29
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VanessaEok that one I have no clue how to fix02:30
VanessaE(suppose I'm still something of a n00b even after 10 years using linux :)02:30
maxime_how create icon ex: home ... but i dont have the icon  of my desktop ...02:31
VanessaEmaxime: I don't understand what you need.02:31
VanessaEDo you mean on the Kubuntu desktop?02:31
maxime_yes02:31
|WAL|VanessaE: I hear you, I've been using it for 6-8 but I'm a convert to Kubuntu (former slackware)02:32
VanessaERight click on the desktop area, Create New -> Link to Application02:32
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maxime_k02:32
VanessaEWAL: Slackware followed by Gentoo for me02:32
maxime_thanks02:32
|WAL|VanessaE: as you know then there's quite a difference02:33
|WAL|:D02:33
VanessaEyep02:33
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VanessaEg-d don't I know it :)02:33
|WAL|lol, indeed why I switched02:33
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VanessaEfor me, slackware's lack of package management drove me off (but I dug my heels in for the longest time)....Gentoo...well....there's a reason I drive a Thunderbird instead of some rice car :)02:34
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|WAL|VanessaE: heh, I hear you, I wanted to goto Gentoo for some time but I held out as well and glad I did02:35
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VanessaEnow that said, I seem to recall that you can compile smbfs support into the kernel also02:42
mabreauxI came from Red Hat, Fedora, Suse 9-10.1 and I like Kubuntu the best, I just wish I could get KDE and Gnome on my desktop.  wife like gnome I do not know why.02:42
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Hawkwindmabreaux: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop02:42
Hawkwindmabreaux: That will install all of Gnome for you and you can let the wife use it02:42
VanessaEhere it is02:42
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VanessaEif you can't get that smbmount tool to install, there's still a kernel rebuild option02:43
mabreauxI have tried that twice and my machine refuse to login in after that02:43
mabreauxI just get a blank screen and the machine is not responsive02:44
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printkI'm having a brain fart.  I switched to KDE (kubuntu-desktop), but firefox is still trying to play streaming videos using gstreamer.. how do I change it to kaffeine?02:45
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shadowhywindi am having problems with getting an IP with my wireless, it just randomly stopped. Anybody have any ideas?02:46
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Hawkwindmabreaux: Probably because when you go to use Gnome you're not using GDM02:47
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mabreauxHawkwind: what?02:50
Hawkwindmabreaux: After you install ubuntu-desktop and you log out it should take you back to a GUI login screen, correct ?02:51
mabreauxI still wish to use KDE the wife want gnome, can ubunut support both on the same machine?02:51
Hawkwindmabreaux: Absolutely02:51
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Hawkwindmabreaux: I have them both installed and many more window managers and don't have any problems02:52
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mabreauxHawkwind: what did you do different than me....   Mind failed badly.02:52
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keeblerCan k3b Burn audio CDs, converting 0GG to WAV/MP3?02:52
method|how do i see the history in konqueror?02:53
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VanessaEkeebler: rather, K3B will import Mp3, OGG and WAV and burn them to an audio CD, yes.02:53
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LjLmethod|: try F902:53
keeblerVanessaE: Thank you.02:53
keeblerThats exactly what I wanted to hear. My fault for incorrectly stating my question.02:54
VanessaE(you need the k3b mp3 plugin for mp3 support...libk3b2-mp3 or some such)02:54
luisahello02:54
VanessaEkeebler: no problem, just making sure I understood you right :)02:54
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keeblerWhat about OGG? Is there a separate lib for that too?02:54
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VanessaEas long as you have ogg installed in general, k3b will use it02:55
LjLkeebler: OGG Vorbis plays out of the box02:55
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oslohi i have 2 cd rom02:55
Hawkwindmabreaux: I have no idea what you did.  I simply installed ubuntu-desktop and it works if I ever wanted to use Gnome02:55
keeblerLjL: I know... I'm listening to it now. :) (Cowboy Bebop OST), but I want to burn it to an audio CD.02:55
oslohda &hdb all both work but i can't mount or see cdrom with hda02:56
LjLah, i see. well, guess that works out of the box as well, but i don't really know02:56
oslofstab seems right edited02:56
VanessaEyour CDROM is hdc and hdd02:56
VanessaE(assuming you did it right, typically hda and hdb are hard disks)02:56
osloVanessaE> seems to be hda & hdb at home02:56
oslo^^02:56
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mabreauxHawkwind: I try it again on my test machine02:57
VanessaEoslo, dmesg |grep hd  and put the output on pastebin02:57
osloVanessaE> i think it depends on with ide1 or ide2 wire they are connected02:57
VanessaE!pastebin > oslo02:57
VanessaEindeed it does, I just want to make sure I understand your setup.02:57
ubuntucan someone please help me :( i need to take away some free space from a partition02:58
ubuntuand make it unallocatde02:58
LjLubuntu: you can use GParted02:58
LjLwell, or QTParted, since we're on #Kubuntu02:58
VanessaELjL: those resize the fs also?02:58
LjLVanessaE: they can. obviously they don't work with just any filesystem02:59
luisahow i can configurate samba????????02:59
ubuntuhow do i get to GParted?02:59
LjL!samba02:59
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT02:59
VanessaEcool.  I'll have to remember that in future02:59
LjLubuntu: type "sudo apt-get install qtparted" or "sudo apt-get install gparted"02:59
ubuntuoh ok thanx02:59
LjLubuntu: gparted is probably more polished, though it's a GTK program02:59
ubuntuim on the livecd though02:59
oslohere it is http://paste-bin.com/88802:59
LjLubuntu: shouldn't matter.02:59
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ubuntuoh ok03:00
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osloVanessaE03:00
LjLubuntu: anyway, if you're on Ubuntu, you should have GParted already installed. on Kubuntu, guess QTParted isn't there by default otoh03:00
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otaku-sanHey, I've seen it but forgot!  How do you change the icon from the default icon to a new one?03:00
otaku-sansuch as for Firefox03:01
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VanessaEoslo: er...ok I suppose that setup will work, but do bear in mind that it's standard to put the CD's on hdc/hdd and your hard disks on hda/hdb03:01
osloyeah yeah03:02
VanessaEhowever,03:02
VanessaEtake a look at /media03:02
VanessaEon my box I have /media/cdrom and /media/cdrom003:02
VanessaEdid you check that the mount points are correct for your setup?03:02
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n5hello03:04
VanessaE(you mentioned that you can't mount /dev/hda which if it were on my box, would fail too since I don't have a /media/cdrom1 as you've specified in your fstab)03:04
VanessaEhello n503:04
n5i have fr version of kubuntu, how to change in english ? did a little search on site, but no luck03:04
shadowhywindanybody have any ideas why i would randomly not be able to get a IP with my wireless?03:05
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osloi have both /media/cdrom and /media/cdrom0 wich link to hdb & i have also /media/cdrom1 that i had to mkdir but this one not working, i cant see hda03:05
osloVanessaE03:05
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VanessaEok, what error msg do you get?  (pastebin if more than one line)03:06
printkhow would one go about changing their default streamer to kaffeine-xine instead of totem?  Firefox keeps trying to use totem03:06
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n5can i get any help ? i've readed, that i can change in control center, but alt+F2 and kconfig not working03:06
VanessaEn5: I don't understand your question03:06
shadowhywindwho you talking to VanessaE?03:06
VanessaEare you trying to pull up the KDE control center?03:06
n5i have french version of kubuntu03:07
VanessaEshadow: I was talking to oslo actually03:07
n5how to change langugage to english ?03:07
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VanessaEah03:07
felixjetwhile im playing, my graph cards freezes 1 sec every 20. what can i do? :( is so annoying03:07
VanessaEwell get to the control center first: Alt+F2  and type "kcontrol"03:07
VanessaE(without quotes of course)03:07
n5ahhh03:08
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VanessaEI'm going to guess that you want the "Regional and Accessibility" option03:08
n5not works03:08
VanessaEok, try running it from a terminal03:08
osloVanessaE>no error message just nothinh in the folder & i hear the cd-rom is starting then it stop & no light on; but it k3b its light on & working perfectly03:08
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n5invalid comand03:09
n5in terminal03:09
VanessaEn5: you're running kubuntu right?03:09
n5yes03:09
VanessaEok, you typed exactly:  kcontrol03:09
VanessaEright?03:09
n5Impossible d'ouvrir l'emplacement  file:///kcontrol 03:10
n5Dtails : Impossible de trouver l'emplacement ou le fichier.03:10
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VanessaEsec...03:11
VanessaEok..   sudo apt-get install kcontrol03:11
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otaku-sanprintk: this is a stab in the dark...but you may have totem-xine-plugin...or something) it's something that totem uses for firefox...It's on by default in Ubuntu...check in adept (search totem-xine...and see what all comes up) and maybe uninstall the plugin and try finding the kaffeine one...03:11
n5maybe kcontrol need to type in french ? :)03:11
VanessaE(that was easy! :)  )03:11
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VanessaEnope, program names don't usually change based on language03:12
otaku-sann5: no type it in english03:12
otaku-san!fr03:12
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.03:12
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n5ok instaled :D03:13
VanessaEn5: ok, now try running it again03:13
printkotaku-san: thanks that worked actually03:13
otaku-sann5: try there if your still having troubles...they may know exactly how to help you...tho' VanessaE is doing great03:13
n5works03:13
VanessaEok good03:13
n5thank you guys :)03:13
VanessaERegional and Accessibility seems like a good place to state03:13
otaku-sanprintk: glad I could help!03:13
VanessaEstart :)03:13
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n5thank you VanessaE03:15
VanessaEdon't let my apparent expertise fool you...  Google is My Friend (tm)  :D03:15
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Digital_PioneerHi. I've just installed Kubuntu, and I need to get internet, because this thing seems to be hopeless without it.03:15
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Digital_PioneerI've installed NdisWrapper to use my WLAN adapter, but it won't connect... :(03:16
Digital_Pioneeriwconfig says my access point is invalid. Any ideas?03:16
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|WAL|lol03:17
|WAL|Digital_Pioneer: what chipset?03:17
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Digital_Pioneer|WAL|, Chipset? You mean my graphics chipset...?03:17
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felixjetey, my nvidia 420MX freezes on the games too much. what drivers should i use? "nv" , "nvidia" or "nvidia geforce4 (generic)" ?03:18
|WAL|Digital_Pioneer: I mean what chipset of WLAN is it?03:18
Digital_Pioneer|WAL|, Uhh, it's a Netgear WG111v2 notebook adapter.03:18
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Digital_Pioneer0846:4240 if it helps... :)03:19
HawkwindDigital_Pioneer: You need to know what chipset is in the card though03:19
|WAL|Digital_Pioneer: there's no drivers for prism?03:19
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|WAL|I'm pretty sure there are03:20
Digital_Pioneer|WAL|, I've only ever used NdisWrapper.03:20
mabreauxdoes edgy have more support for wireless networks with boardcom chipsets03:20
|WAL|http://prism54.org/newdrivers.html03:20
Hawkwindmabreaux: Probably not.  Broadcomm chipsets are nothing but a royal pain03:20
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shadowhywindtell me about it...03:20
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shadowhywindi am dealing with a ndiswrapper (iw_set_freq:376): setting configuration failed (00010003) error now..03:21
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mabreauxthen recomend a pcmica card that would work better in a b/g  or a/b/g config03:21
|WAL|Digital_Pioneer: if you still wanna try ndiswrapper.. I have some commands that work for me with Ndiswrapper03:21
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HawkwindI used a linksys with a broadcomm chipset with ndiswrapper for nearly a year.  Got tired of dealing with it all the time when changing distros so I purchased an Orinoco Silver card brand new in the box on ebay for $2003:21
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ccherretthow do I get sshd running in kubuntu?03:22
ccherrettI can't find the package to install03:22
Hawkwindccherrett: sudo apt-get install ssh03:22
Hawkwind!ssh03:22
VanessaEeesh...and to think I was looking into going wireless around the house...  eh, i think I'll keep using my spool of cat-5 :)03:22
ubotussh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/03:22
Hawkwind!info ssh03:22
ubotussh: Secure shell client and server (transitional package). In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB03:22
Hawkwindccherrett: Once you install it, it will start the service for you automatically03:22
arepieanyone plese look at -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26227/03:23
VanessaEdoesn't he need openssh-server ?03:23
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Digital_Pioneer|WAL|, What might those be?03:23
arepiei've installed fglrx driver, but the OenGL is still Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org03:23
orient2000I need to conect my camera Sony DSC-W50 but there is no driver for it? What can I do?03:23
ccherrettok thanks I was assuming sshd was the package03:23
HawkwindVanessaE: It's a meta package that will install what he needs03:23
VanessaEoh ok03:24
Hawkwindccherrett: apt-cache search ssh03:24
|WAL|Digital_Pioneer: I'll pm in a sec03:24
Raven301Digital_Pioneer: Is this for wireless03:24
mabreauxwhat chipset is the orinoco silver?03:24
Digital_PioneerRaven301, Yes.03:24
ccherrettHawkwind: thanks03:24
Raven301Digital_Pioneer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174 try this03:24
Digital_PioneerHmm, I don't think Prism would work... It seems to only support WG111v1.03:25
Hawkwindccherrett: No problem03:25
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Digital_PioneerRaven301, OK, one sec.03:25
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Digital_PioneerRaven301, I don't have a Broadcom on that computer...03:26
Raven301Digital_Pioneer: oops wrong site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper03:26
|WAL|Digital_Pioneer: I'll have to use paste-bin03:26
Digital_Pioneer|WAL|, OK, thanks. :)03:26
arepie!ati03:27
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:27
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|WAL|Digital_Pioneer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26228/03:28
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Digital_Pioneer|WAL|, OK, thanks.03:28
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|WAL|Digital_Pioneer: replace 00:00:00:00:00:00 with your AccessPoint's MAC address, and APNAME with your SSID03:28
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|WAL|Digital_Pioneer: not sure if all those steps are needed, but it does the trick for my WLAN03:29
Digital_Pioneer|WAL|, I know the SSID, but not the MAC.... :(03:29
Digital_PioneerOK.03:29
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turtletimeanybody installed kubuntu onto a RAID 5 array?03:30
turtletimenforce 403:30
|WAL|Digital_Pioneer: iwlist scan03:31
Digital_Pioneer|WAL|, No scan results.03:31
|WAL|Digital_Pioneer: hidden SSID?03:31
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Digital_Pioneer|WAL|, Nope.03:31
|WAL|Digital_Pioneer: crappy... wrong driver for ndiswrapper?03:31
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Digital_Pioneer|WAL|, My adapter is not being asked anything, I think. BTW, it's on the computer as eth2.03:32
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|WAL|Digital_Pioneer: I assume you installed the .inf from the windows driver?03:32
Digital_Pioneer|WAL|, Yes.03:32
VanessaEack, just noticed I missed a pm from oslo...wonder what he needed.03:32
|WAL|Digital_Pioneer: hmmm I'd try to find a way to do it non-Ndiswrapper if there is a way03:33
Digital_Pioneer|WAL|, What is there other than Prism?03:33
VanessaEhm, must have gotten buried among the rest of the chat (I hate when I do that :(  )03:33
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|WAL|Digital_Pioneer: is that a usb wireless?03:34
Digital_Pioneer|WAL|,  Yes03:35
intelikey:() { dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/stderr } && :03:35
|WAL|Digital_Pioneer: you getting lights on the device?03:35
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|WAL|Digital_Pioneer: even the power one03:36
Digital_Pioneer|WAL|, No. Only one light that blinks once when I plug it in.03:36
|WAL|but you've verified that the usb aspect is working right?03:37
mabreauxare there any other pcmcia card the work well with kubuntu?03:37
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Digital_Pioneer|03:37
Digital_PioneerOops... LOL03:37
Digital_Pioneer|WAL|, lsusb displays it properly.03:38
intelikeymabreaux i'm sure there are.  but sister google should be a better answerer of such quarries03:38
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|WAL|Digital_Pioneer: ok03:39
mabreauxbut what chipset should I look for?03:39
zblachhey all03:39
|WAL|Digital_Pioneer: try iwlist eth2 scan03:39
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intelikeymabreaux maybe try a search for "supported chipsets" "pcmcia"  on http://www.google.com/linux/03:40
arepiewho would like to help me with fglrx driver.. i've read wikis, how to's and i have google.. anyone would like to help..03:41
intelikeyyes with the quotes03:41
arepieanyone plese look at -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26227/03:41
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Digital-Pioneer:\03:42
Digital-Pioneer|WAL|, I just got rid of Debian in favor of Kubuntu. This driver always worked just fine in Debian. :(03:43
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felixjethi03:44
|WAL|Digital-Pioneer: I'm at a loss then03:44
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method|is the us.archive.ubuntu.com repo down for anyone else?03:45
method|what is another instant messanger besides kopete and gaim?03:45
VanessaEoff and on it does go down, method03:45
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method|huh?03:45
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VanessaEthe repository - that server does occasionally die out for some reason03:46
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felixjetmmm, im triying to install nvidia drivers but they ask for kernel source... it is linux-source-2.6.15 ?? can i lose configs? it this a risk?03:46
VanessaEit's down for me too.03:46
method|i see03:46
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sakihello my friends03:46
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method|you cant send files with kopete?03:47
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VanessaEno clue, I do know it's broken on gaim, for some services anyway03:48
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method|it's broken on kopete apparently too :/03:49
felixjetmmm, im triying to install nvidia drivers but they ask for kernel source... it is linux-source-2.6.15 ?? can i lose configs? it this a risk?03:49
intelikeyfelixjet yes no and no  in that order.03:49
VanessaEit's something you can blame Yahoo/AOL/MSN for though, so I understand03:49
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intelikeyfelixjet have you read the wiki on that ?03:50
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intelikey!ati03:50
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:50
intelikeyfelixjet ^03:50
felixjetk03:50
felixjetreadin03:50
intelikeyor the newer page on the wiki's ?03:50
|WAL|Digital_Pioneer: sorry, fresh out of ideas03:51
|WAL|cya l03:51
|WAL|*all03:51
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tony_hell everyone.. Is there any program that can compare two text file ( php ) and show the difference ?03:58
VanessaEdiff will do.03:59
felixjetey intelikey03:59
tony_diff ?? cani get it from adept ..03:59
felixjeti dont understand this03:59
felixjetcan you clear it for me please03:59
felixjet"If you are running Hoary Hedgehog or Breezy Badger, then install nvidia-settings and nvidia-xconfig. DO NOT install either package in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS because it will remove nvidia-glx. These programs are now provided in nvidia-glx."03:59
VanessaEtony: you probably have it already03:59
VanessaEfrom a terminal,   diff file1 file203:59
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felixjeti should install that packages'03:59
saki!ntfs03:59
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse03:59
tony_is there anything that is not Shell ???04:00
tony_i need to compare and modify text at the same time04:00
VanessaEeh04:00
VanessaEdunno how to do that (I'd generally just open a couple of terminals and do it manually)04:00
tarmathdiff viewer?04:01
tony_well, im new to linux... still shecking off window04:01
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cgeoguys how can i restore the default kubuntu desktop theme???04:03
tony_what is the different between Lost and Found and Add remove program04:03
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tony_cgeo: System Setting >> Appearance04:05
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tony_i think thats a KDE default04:05
intelikeytony_ lost+found == the trashbin for the file system mantainance.    that is to say what ever e2fsck might find that doesn't look right it puts there.   generally only a deleted file or two...04:05
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tony_i see , thanks .04:06
Tm_Tsometimes it's lost stuff, so check before removing04:06
intelikeytony_ oddly enough any fs that does not contain /lost+found  is considered to be a "file system with errors."  by e2fsck04:07
cgeothanx tony but i can;t seem to find anything there04:07
tony_lost and found has sub that called add remove ..04:07
tony_so i can install apps right from there04:08
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tony_cgeo:: sorry cgeo , thats the best i can do .. im new to linux ..04:09
tony_well, im confused.. :_) time for bed ..04:09
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jon_what is the command for configuring a nvidia card?04:11
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fildocommand ?04:12
fildoxorg.conf04:12
zblachhey. i have a bit of a problem with sound on my laptop.04:12
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fildowhats up zblach04:12
zblachif I enter standby/hibernate, and then leave, my sound fails to start up again04:12
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zblachi've found a bit of a work-around, but it's a hassle04:13
zblachif i disable my sound server, enter standby, leave standby, and re-enable the sound server, it works fine04:13
fildojust restart service i assume04:13
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fildobut anything further then that , is out of my support boundries unfortunately ! alsa always worked out of the box for me and my notebook04:14
zblachi'm guessing so, but what command does [dis|en] abling the sound system call?04:14
zblachand, which script is executed upon standby?04:14
fildo> /etc/init.d <something sound i assume >04:14
zblachand standby?04:15
fildoit could be an " acpi" issue04:15
intelikey?04:15
intelikey? /etc/init.d/alsa restart04:15
fildoyeh i dont have it tho04:16
fildothats why i didnt state it04:16
fildoi only have alsa utils04:16
intelikeynot sure if i have any alsa utils installed any more04:16
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intelikeydoesn't look like it, i don't have a script in the init.d04:17
fildohmm04:17
zblachalsa-utils isn't it04:17
intelikeylooks good.  try a "restart" on it04:18
zblachregardless of the status of alsa-utils, system settings reported the sound server as off04:18
zblachand a restart of alsa, and a re-enabling of sound server does nothing04:18
zblachit just hangs on re-enabling the sound server04:18
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intelikeycheck malone ?04:19
intelikeymay be a known issue04:19
fildowhat notebook u got ?04:19
fildoso i know to keep away from it :p04:19
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intelikeyhybernate / susspend  have been notoriously buggy.04:20
fildo!alsa04:20
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin04:20
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intelikey!hybernate04:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hybernate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:20
fildointelikey: i had an issue like that! i close re-open laptop04:20
zblachintelikey: any change in the new beta?04:20
fildon it comes back up04:21
zblachfildo: do you mean close & re-open?04:21
fildobut i only have standby issues when running xgl04:21
intelikeyzblach i don't know.04:21
fildonotebook. screen04:21
zblachfildo: what brand?04:21
fildotoshitba04:21
fildotoshiba04:21
fildo:p04:21
zblachhp.04:22
fildothe company that goin broke?/04:22
Manyfoldi just erased a line form the /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride file and now i get the error message dpkg: statoverride-file contains an empty column04:23
Manyfoldwhat can i do04:23
zblachlast i heard they were in too much shit to go broke04:23
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VanessaEon my box, Manyfold, there's only one line in that file04:23
VanessaEhplip root 755 /var/run/hplip04:23
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ManyfoldVanessaE: yes i installed fuse some time ago04:24
felixjetlol04:24
felixjetIceWeasel04:24
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felixjetis the new name for debian's firefox04:24
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ManyfoldVanessaE: then i decided to dpkg -purge fuse04:24
VanessaEoops04:24
fildoeheh04:24
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ManyfoldVanessaE: today it wanted to install insserv04:25
fildowhats inserv?04:25
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ManyfoldVanessaE: a moment please04:25
VanessaEI don't anything about that file, except that it looks to me to just be "program user perms executeable"04:25
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jon_i need some help with my graphics card04:25
VanessaEmaybe you accidentally lost something from another line in the file?04:26
jon_when i put it in and restart, my monitor is all black and the green light flashes04:26
fildohehe04:26
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jon_its an nvidia card04:26
VanessaEjon: check your BIOS settings, make sure the video card you're using is the primary card.04:26
fildojon_: sure u have the right configuration in xorg.conf04:26
jon_right now ive got onboard video04:26
VanessaEand of course that the card works04:26
fildodid u disable in bios ?04:26
ManyfoldVanessaE: back then i decided to install insserv today and got the following error message04:27
fildothen load nv card?04:27
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jon_no because i could see to get to the bios screen when i restarted04:27
dennisterg'evening ppl04:27
jon_should i disable the bios and then put the card in04:27
Manyfolddpkg: syntax error: unknown group `fuse' in statoverride file04:27
VanessaEmanyfold: ok04:27
ManyfoldVanessaE: dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `fuse' in statoverride file04:27
VanessaEjon: yes04:27
fildojon_: could be an idea .04:27
ManyfoldVanessaE: so i decided to delete that fuse line manually from the file04:28
intelikeyManyfold so groupadd fuse and try again04:28
VanessaEthe BIOS needs to know that it should use the nvidia card as your default (look for something like "Primary Video: PCI/AGP" or so04:28
zblachthanks all04:28
fildonps04:28
Manyfoldand now i get the error message that it contains an empty line04:28
VanessaEan empty *line*?04:28
VanessaEor a column?04:29
Manyfoldintelikey: i don't need no fucking fuse group i purged the package04:29
jon_i cant find the configuration on xorg-config04:29
Manyfoldintelikey: i deleted the group on purpose04:29
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dennisterneed some help with azureus; anyone here know it very well? including advanced features?04:29
waspiusfor some reason my whole system is running very very slow...any ideas on why that can happen?04:30
dennisterwaspius: when did it start?04:30
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Manyfoldintelikey: and i want dpkg to run wiothout requiering that group04:30
waspiuswell it has started latelly04:30
Manyfoldintelikey: sorry it took me away04:30
waspiusdennister:04:30
tarmathwaspius: open a konsole and then type top and see if any process is using allot of ressources04:31
dennistercan u remember what u were doing when it did start? it could be some runaway processes04:31
VanessaEmanyfold: open the file again and just double-check that you didn't add an empty line somewhere04:31
Manyfoldso can anyone help me?04:31
fildolol @ runaway .. dam strays04:31
dennistertarmath has a better idea04:31
VanessaEmaybe hexdump it, shouldn't be much to look for, like two newlines in a row somewhere04:31
waspiusdennister: i dont remember...04:32
dennisterthe command could be lspc if i remember correctly04:32
dennisteror "top" as tarmath suggested04:32
ManyfoldVanessaE: i use nano and it shows me 2 lines read04:32
ManyfoldVanessaE: but i can see only 1 line04:32
waspiusdennister: i run top but i dont make any sence really04:32
VanessaEI take it there's only one line in ..ok04:32
ManyfoldVanessaE: so how can i erase that empty line?04:33
VanessaEput the cursor on the end of the one good line and just hit the del key04:33
VanessaEnano is picky like tht04:33
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tarmathwaspius: its the list of processes ordered from the one that uses most your cpu down to idle processes...04:33
ManyfoldVanessaE: thanks for your help04:33
dennisteri'm still quite the newbie, so I'm limited in how much i can help i'm afraid04:33
VanessaEthen save and hexdump it to make sure that extra newline was removed04:33
tarmathwaspius: the line you want to look at is PU which is, as you might guess, the percentage of your cpu used by the process...04:34
ManyfoldVanessaE: i still get wrote 2 lines04:34
VanessaEshit04:34
VanessaEok, try it with another editor04:34
VanessaEvi might be suitable here actually04:34
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waspiustarmath: well the one with the most cpu is pid 4808 and 496304:34
tarmathwaspius: and whats the percentage of cpu used?04:35
VanessaEthere isn't a blank line *above* the good one is there?04:35
dennisteron my end this is totally strange; can download fine, but be a good seeder and give back what I get? hah!04:35
omarHello, I have windows in one machine and I would like to install kubuntu and use both programs, what should I do ?04:35
waspiustarmath: in total 23-30%04:35
tarmathwaspius: is it always that process on the top of the list? the list is being update every 5 seconds or so04:35
waspiustarmath: 5.604:35
waspiustarmath: those 2 interchange04:35
tarmathwaspius: 30% is allot04:36
waspiustarmath: that is a total of all of them04:36
tarmathwaspius: give me the process names (the name of the executable, last column)04:36
intelikeyManyfold what have you got there M$ markup in a config file ?       ( tr -d '\r' file > newfile )04:36
ManyfoldVanessaE: yes there is but it was before04:36
VanessaE(still that raises a question...wtf does dpkg care about empty lines in a text config file?)04:37
VanessaEok, well try removing it anyway04:37
waspiustarmath: 16,15,1704:37
intelikeymarkup04:37
dennistermy gosh: it's late...be back soon04:37
waspiustarmath: sorry wait04:37
tarmathwaspius: what I want is the COMMAND column04:37
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VanessaEanother option is to copy with the mouse the line you want to keep, then   echo "paste text here" > /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride04:38
waspiustarmath: xorg,konversation,kded04:38
waspiustarmath: and kicker04:38
mabreauxnot much luck finding a compatible pcmcia wireless card for kubuntu....04:38
waspiustarmath: kded and xorg are the two top ones04:38
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DFMmabreaux: a d-link dwl-g650  will work out of the box04:39
tarmathwaspius: well, xorg is normally on the top... its the display...04:39
tarmathwaspius: kded I dont know though...04:40
purpleposeidonomar: If, by 'programs', you really mean 'operating systems', then yes, you can install both OS's on different partitions.04:40
waspiustarmath: so any idea what i should do?04:41
Manyfoldintelikey: tr -d '\r' file > newfile doesn't work04:41
tarmathwaspius: well theres so many reasons why your computer might be slow...04:41
waspiustarmath: ie?it was not before04:42
Manyfoldintelikey: error message04:42
Manyfoldsudo tr -d '\r' /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride > newfile04:42
Manyfoldtr: zustzlicher Operand /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride04:42
ManyfoldBeim Lschen ohne Verdichten darf nur eine Zeichenkette angegeben werden.04:42
Manyfoldtr --help gibt weitere Informationen.04:42
tarmathwaspius: before what is the question...04:42
Manyfoldintelikey: which means there is an operand to much04:42
omar<purpleposeidon> different partitions? you mean leaving the choise of partitions like I find it while installing kubuntu?04:43
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VanessaE(odd quotes... did the same thing on one website I was looking at today..  one quote at the bottom of the line and one at the top?)04:43
waspiustarmath: the question is why is it slow and what can i do..it never used to be like this04:43
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waspiusyou cannot imagine hos slow it has bexome04:45
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purpleposeidonomar: As I recall, you can resize windows partitions. Or, if you have additional partitions laying around (at least a couple gigs) you can use those, or you could use a seperate hard-drive....04:45
posthumandoes anyone knw how to convert mpeg files to avi?04:45
XVampireXHey04:46
XVampireXI got a problem with the sound04:46
VanessaEbbl04:46
XVampireXIt's stuttering in Games04:46
XVampireXSDL/OpenGL04:46
cahuezgggrrreeetings guys and gals, enjoy for a whiiiillee, hehe> http://unix.rulez.org/~calver/pictures/ ..04:46
intelikeyManyfold no it means that tr doesn't read files.... pipe it through.   cat file | tr -d '\r' > newfile and test the new file....    but i'm way to busy to be trying to help in here right now.04:46
XVampireXCan anyone help me?04:47
XVampireXOh, I'm using edgy eft just so you know04:47
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intelikeyManyfold sorry for the interruption...04:47
HawkwindXVampireX: Might try #Ubuntu+1 since that is the Edgy channel04:47
Manyfoldintelikey: i did sudo cat /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride | tr -d '\r' > newfile04:48
Manyfoldintelikey: and newfile still contains 2 lines04:48
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Manyfold:(04:49
omar<purpleposeidon> How much I should leave for windows, you mean move the bar until there right?04:49
fildoXVampireX: restart service / restart game / restart computer !04:50
Manyfoldintelikey: now the whole dpkg system is wholly unusuable04:50
Manyfoldi never had this kind of trouble with emerge04:50
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Manyfoldups shouldn't have said this04:51
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purpleposeidonomar: Well, that depends on how much you still want to leave for windows...... not that I have any idea where 'right there' is. How much space do you have total?04:51
tarmathwaspius: "the computer is slow" is too generic a question... it could be anything, you should try identifying which operations are slow... disk transfer? display-intensive applications? etc?04:52
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omar<purpleposeidon> i have 40 and i just need windows for powerpoint (for my father and messenger) that' it04:53
XVampireXfildo: Did all of them04:55
mabreauxDFM: what speed is that?  A/B/G/N04:55
purpleposeidonomar: Then just leave like 3 gig for windows then.04:55
omar<purpleposeidon> the less posible04:55
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omar<purpleposeidon> 3 sounds a lot for me, and when I start the machine will I get a menu with the two options or something??04:56
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purpleposeidonomar: Yes, you'll get a menu, where you can choose between Linux and windows.04:58
fildogrubski04:59
Manyfoldintelikey: i solved my problem05:00
waspiustarmath: but everything is going slow..even if i open konqueror it takes ages...anything i open is it a program or jst an application..it is browsing the net..everything05:00
Hawkwindwaspius: What do you have running currently ?05:01
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Hawkwindwaspius: What did 'top' show you in a terminal as far as what's taking up CPU usage05:01
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waspiusHawkwind: currently i am running mplayer...konversation...wireless networking and kopete...in top xorg and kded use the most of the cpu05:02
omar<purpleposeidon> thank you so much05:03
Hawkwindwaspius: How much of the CPU do the top 2 entries take up ?05:03
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waspiusHawkwind: around 13%05:04
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Hawkwindwaspius: What's mplayer playing ?05:04
Hawkwindwaspius: A movie or music ?05:04
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waspiusHawkwind: i think it has to do with the memory not the cpu...music from online radio05:04
Hawkwindwaspius: How much RAM do you have in the box ?05:05
waspiusHawkwind: but even if mplayer is not playing and i close everything i have the same problem05:05
waspiusHawkwind: 51205:05
Hawkwindwaspius: Have you tried restarting X ?05:05
waspiusHawkwind: i restarted my pc but nothing changed05:05
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Hawkwindwaspius: As in you rebooted ?05:05
waspiusHawkwind: yes05:06
waspiusHawkwind: at the top part of top where it has the total of all processes..under memory it says 450788k total and 442672k used05:07
Hawkwindwaspius: What does free -m tell you ?05:07
waspiusHawkwind: total 440 used 42605:08
Hawkwindwaspius: When did this all start....what did you do/change/delete just prior to it happening ?05:08
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VanessaEback05:09
intelikeynot the totals the  +/- buffer/cache line05:09
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waspiusHawkwind: it just started..i dont know..i formated my pc set up everything from the beggining and did nothing to fuck it up...and suddently that is what is happening...is there any chance that because i am running wireless internet everything is being fucked?05:10
Hawkwindwaspius: Please watch the language05:11
waspiusHawkwind: sorry05:11
intelikeyi just killed X and top/free both report 132m used.  but +/- cached mem  is 22m used05:11
HawkwindWere you using the system and it was running fine then the next second it wasn't ?05:11
waspiusHawkwind: yes05:13
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Hawkwindwaspius: Then something changed, and you need to figure out what it was05:13
Hawkwindwaspius: Can you put the system on a wired connection and see if that changes anything ?05:13
waspiusHawkwind: i could but not now05:14
Hawkwindwaspius: I'd try that ASAP.  Probably won't change anything, but it's one less thing to wonder about05:14
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waspiusHawkwind: otherwise what can i do?05:15
Hawkwindwaspius: No idea to be honest.  Surely something has to be eating up CPU or something05:15
Hawkwindwaspius: Maybe your RAM is going bad, harddrive is dying.  Hard to tell05:15
felixjethow can i join a irc channel that have a  ?05:15
felixjetdont works >.<05:16
intelikeytop  check the  %CPU coloumn05:16
waspiusHawkwind: yeah but in windows i have no such problem05:16
Hawkwindwaspius: That's Windows.  This is linux05:16
Hawkwindwaspius: Windows will allow broken/going bad hardware to work05:16
VanessaEquite a change really.. I seem to remember a time when it was exactly the opposite :)05:17
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VanessaE(but better linux should reject bad hardware for the sake of stability)05:17
manjunathai dont know how to install opera in kubbuntu please help05:17
Hawkwindsudo apt-get install opera05:17
intelikeyi'm not sure it does VanessaE05:17
VanessaEmanjunatha, go to opera.com and download the ubuntu deb from them05:17
HawkwindAssuming you have the right repos05:17
Hawkwind!info opera05:18
VanessaEuse dpkg -i to install it05:18
ubotuopera: The Opera Web Browser. In component main, is optional. Version 9.00-20060616.7 (dapper-commercial), package size 5415 kB, installed size 12376 kB (Only available for i386)05:18
fildo!opera05:18
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser05:18
HawkwindVanessaE: Why ?  It's in main and can be apt-get05:18
fildoi agree05:18
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intelikeyif you get the deb from the site you might get a later version bug05:19
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HawkwindThere are debs of the latest in different repos.05:19
intelikeyi think i'm caught up for the time being...05:20
intelikeyyeah i was just sauing.05:20
intelikeysaying05:20
manjunathaehen i give this command "sudo apt-get install opera" it is replying that couldn't find packages05:20
HawkwindThe one I use is from Etch, but it works very well05:20
Hawkwindmanjunatha: Make sure you have all the repos enabled first05:20
fildo# The Opera browser (packages)05:20
fildo#deb http://deb.opera.com/opera etch non-free05:20
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Hawkwindfildo: Heh, yeah that's the one :P05:21
fildoput that in source list05:21
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fildonod05:21
HawkwindI don't always like telling users to use a debian/etch repo05:21
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HawkwindThough that one is safe, so it's all good05:21
fildowhy not ? its simple i guess05:21
fildoupdate / upgrade / or just install05:21
fildohow hard can it be! then dpkg -i05:21
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Hawkwindfildo: Using debian repos on Ubuntu isn't always safe unfortunately.  They have been known to break things is the point05:22
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fildobut not matter if u compile from src. or install package.05:22
fildou will still get the same deps05:22
HawkwindAgain, not the point05:23
intelikeyhehhe i think i'll try  sed 's/ubuntu/debian/g' sources.list && apt dist-upgrade   :)    any chance the system can take it ?05:23
fildodeb repos on ubuntu is ur point05:23
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HawkwindHobbsee!05:24
dennisterHawkwind! :)05:24
Hawkwindintelikey: It'll take the first part atleast :P05:24
HawkwindHey there dennister05:24
intelikeyagreed05:24
dennisterbrb05:24
intelikeyi think the syntax is a little different in the sources.list file and i'd have to change the name also... no dapper in debian.05:25
Hobbseehey Hawkwind05:25
HawkwindHobbsee: How are ya tonight ?05:25
HobbseeHawkwind: okay :)  dealing with forum stuff soon, i guess.  work soon too05:25
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HawkwindOhhh, forums...they are tons of fun05:26
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fildowork sucks ass!05:27
fildobut i cannot complain, im at work now05:27
intelikeyyou just did05:27
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intelikeyhmmm error.  No theme index file in '/usr/share/icons/hicolor'.05:31
Tm_T:O05:31
intelikeydpkg erroring out on me05:31
Tm_Tintelikey: reinstall package?05:31
intelikeyTm_T what package ?05:32
Tm_Tuh05:32
VanessaEoops, sorry for wandering off..  I wasn't aware opera had been moved into the official repos.  I'm used to downloading the deb and installing manually :)05:32
Tm_Tintelikey: hicolor-icon-theme ?05:32
Tm_Tor is that too obvious?05:32
Tm_T;)05:33
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fildoVanessaE: probably better that way just quietly! cause u get new build05:33
Hobbsee!schedule05:33
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule05:33
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intelikeyTm_T or remove it ???05:34
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Tm_Tintelikey: reinstall, you never wan't to live without it05:34
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intelikeyi never want to live with it either...05:35
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intelikeylooks like everything kde depends on that package05:36
Tm_Tofcourse05:37
intelikeythat's a good one to remove to lighten the system i guess05:37
Tm_Thalf of icons you see is from there05:37
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intelikeyi don't see icons05:37
Tm_T=)05:37
Tm_Tfamiliar to mee too05:37
Dsbeerfsomeone can help me i do add/remove to add mplayer software i click on any suite but mplayer is in gray unable to click to install it how to fix it ??05:38
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intelikey!mplayer05:38
ubotumplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile05:38
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.05:38
pacmanDsbeerf: unless I'm wrong, you can sudo apt-get install mplayer05:39
Dsbeerfapt-get doenst see this package05:39
pacmanare you root?05:39
intelikeyreiserfs developer arrested ?05:39
martallido you have the universe or multiverse repositories open?05:39
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Dsbeerfim as user05:40
Dsbeerfin adept yes05:40
martallithe reiserfs developer's wife disappeared - apparently they had a very rocky relationship05:40
DsbeerfPackage mplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:40
intelikeyhe should have apt-get remove hicolor-icon-theme    maybe05:40
Tm_T?!05:41
intelikeyjust a thought05:41
Dsbeerfso what i should do ??05:43
Tm_TDsbeerf: well, uh05:43
intelikeyDsbeerf enable the repos and   update05:43
Tm_T!mplayer05:43
ubotumplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile05:43
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.05:43
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Tm_TDsbeerf: look those05:43
martalli...automatix is another option for mplayer, but they have their own channel #automatix05:44
XVampireXmartalli: Speaking of reiser, have you tried reiser4?05:44
Dsbeerfintelikey, is alrealy done05:44
martalliI'm a boring ext3 guy myself05:44
intelikeyupdate ?      or "apply changes"05:45
Dsbeerfboth05:45
XVampireXmartalli: Ah, using reiserfs here, don't know how good reiser4 is05:45
intelikeyDsbeerf cli would be   sudo apt-get update05:45
XVampireXI heard it's the fastest and got plugins05:45
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intelikeythen install mplayer05:45
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DsbeerfReading package lists... Done05:46
martallihttp://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/10/10/BAGERLM3RR15.DTL05:46
DsbeerfReading package lists... Done05:46
DsbeerfPackage mplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:46
DsbeerfThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or05:46
Dsbeerfis only available from another source05:46
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intelikeyit's avalable.  enable the repos.05:46
martalliSF Gate is reporting he got arrested, but doesn't even mention reiserfs (is that good or bad?)05:46
intelikey!repos05:47
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:47
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Dsbeerfall repos is enable05:47
martalliI think I am going to have to reinstall kubuntu05:47
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intelikeyDsbeerf pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please.05:47
intelikey!paste05:47
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:48
Dark-Vampire!de05:48
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de05:48
martalliI am stuck in 800x600...I think dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org  just won't recognize my monitor is 1024x768 capable05:48
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Dsbeerfinc|freaky, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26242/05:49
fildomartalli: xorg.conf05:49
fildomartalli: modify it for your video card! and monitor!05:49
intelikeymartalli add -Plow05:49
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martalli-Plow ?05:49
intelikeyyep to the reconfig command05:50
Dsbeerfintelikey, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26242/05:50
martalliI'll give it a try, but first I'll check those commands, for leanring's sake05:50
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fildoanyone here use joe ?05:51
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intelikeymartalli sorry  lower case.   -plow05:51
Dark-Vampirehow was the command again "sudo getapp install" any like this but anything in it is wrong05:51
intelikeymeans priority of question == low05:51
Dsbeerfintelikey,  so my repos are fine ?05:51
fildoDark-Vampire: sudo apt-get install <package>05:51
intelikeyso it asks them all05:51
martalliOIC05:51
Dark-Vampirethanks05:51
martalliI think that would help05:52
intelikeyDsbeerf looking05:52
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intelikey!info mplayer05:53
ubotumplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB05:53
Dark-Vampirefildo: can i get limewire with this command?05:53
intelikeyDsbeerf nope.05:53
Dsbeerfwhat wrong then ?05:53
intelikeyDsbeerf mplayer is in "multiverse"   add that do line one.05:53
fildoDark-Vampire: sudo apt-cache search limewire05:53
Dark-Vampirethanks05:53
dennisterDark-Vampire: frostwire, a limewire clone is easily downloaded and installed from .deb package05:54
fildo!limewire05:54
ubotulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.05:54
Dsbeerfintelikey, which line i have to add ?05:54
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intelikeydsbeerf  make the first line look like this         deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse05:55
Dsbeerfintelikey, ok let see05:55
intelikeysave and do    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mplayer05:55
Dsbeerfaw is fine working now :)05:58
Dsbeerfthanks05:58
intelikeyDsbeerf no problem.  you're welcome05:58
DinkWhat is a good cpu temp monitor for kubuntu ?05:59
Dr_willislm-sensors06:00
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Dr_willisthen whatever interface ya like.06:00
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Dr_willistheres karamba desklets, or gkrellm, or proberly some panel applets06:00
intelikeylm-sensors is about the only option.06:00
Dr_willisor text based. :)06:00
VanessaEhm, just got word on slashdot....hans reiser arrested on suspicion of murdering his wife....06:00
VanessaEoy.06:00
Dr_willisBig Oy!06:01
mariano_hi, I did crontab -e and add '*/1 * * * * ls -l > file', but nothing happens. cron is running and crontab -l shows the entry. Any ideas?06:01
intelikeyVanessaE we were talking about that eariler06:01
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Dr_willisi thought cron piped most of the output to /dev/null06:01
VanessaEI must have missed that discussion then ...eh late as usual06:01
VanessaE:)06:01
intelikey:)06:01
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Dark_Vampireand i downloaded the Limewirelinux.rpm from limewire.com but i dont know how to use it06:01
Dr_willisthe > file  may be just getting slurped into null!06:02
Dr_willisDark_Vampire,  you dont06:02
Dr_willis!limewire06:02
ubotulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.06:02
Dr_willisBETTER to use Frostwire.06:02
dennisterDark_Vampire: always look for a .deb download if u can06:02
Dr_willistype !FrostWire   and see what the bot tells ya :)06:02
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intelikeynot worth repeting but my comment was something like 'maybe he should have just removed the high-color-icon-theme'    but something gets lost in the translation06:03
dennisterit's possible to install .rpm packages, but they're meant for other linux distros06:03
intelikeyVanessaE ^06:03
dennisterlike mandriva06:03
Dark_Vampireok thanks06:03
ubuntucan anyone help me06:03
VanessaEeh...bad joke :)06:03
Dark_Vampire!java06:03
intelikeyor fedora06:03
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository06:03
ubuntu??06:03
dennisterDark_Vampire: i take it ur on kubuntu?06:03
intelikeyVanessaE yeah....06:04
dennistera 386 platform?06:04
Dark_Vampireyes06:04
Dark_Vampirekubuntu06:04
dennisterk 386 platforms are easier than my amd64...u should be ok with almost all .debs....the ones that are stable06:05
dennistertoo late06:05
Dark_Vampireuhm I still here... just i had disconnect befor that was just my old login06:05
dennistero i c06:06
dennisternow i can use tab-compeltion more easily :)06:06
fildoDark_Vampire: just install azereus or opera. they will both handle torrents06:06
fildobut many have opinions on azereuz .. memory heavy06:07
dennisterfildo: do u know azureus well?06:07
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ubuntuhelp!!!!!!!!06:08
fildodennister: depends on issue1!06:08
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dennisteri'm an experienced azur user from windows platform, but am having unusual difficulties seeding now06:08
intelikey!help06:08
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage06:08
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intelikey!ask06:08
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:08
VanessaEhaha06:08
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VanessaEa few other channels I've been in could use a comment like that :)06:08
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ubuntuhi ubotu06:08
intelikey:)06:08
dennisteri'm not natted, but can't seem to find peers to connect to in order to be a good return-seeder06:09
intelikey!ubotu06:09
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage06:09
mariano_!cron06:09
ubotucron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. There is a decent howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm06:09
fildoubotu is eggdrop i assume ?06:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is eggdrop i assume ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:09
intelikeyfildo not sure.  but i don't think so06:10
intelikey!stats06:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about stats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:10
fildowells its not like it version replies!06:10
dennisteri'm trying to start this azureus install on my newish kubuntu well...but ...06:10
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fildoalways a but!06:10
Hawkwindfildo: He's a heavily modified supybot actually06:11
dennisterheheh...would u know how to improve peer-finding to seed?06:11
intelikeypython  hmmm06:11
ubuntuhey how can i get help06:12
intelikeyask a question06:12
intelikeynever know you might get an answer.06:12
intelikeyanswers are free.  correct answers on the other hand....06:12
ubuntuwell im starting working with ubuntu, and it worked very well at the begining, printer, network etc06:13
ubuntubut now i got lots of problems06:13
ubuntui have some win machines, like four and six with ubuntu06:13
dennisterubuntu: i take it ur on livecd mode?06:14
ubuntuim right now06:14
ubuntuit's because im in my dad's laptop06:14
Dark_Vampirehow do i know which version of kubuntu i got?06:15
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manjunathahow to have shortcut to opera on desktop06:15
dennistercan u change ur nic so it's easier to speak not to mix u up with the bot?06:15
ubuntubut at my job i have it in my HD06:15
intelikeymaybe06:15
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ubuntuok06:15
manjunathahow to have shortcut to opera on desktop06:15
manjunathahow to have shortcut to opera on desktop???????????????06:15
intelikeymanjunatha right click on the desktop and create a launcher06:15
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limonensehello06:15
intelikeyor drag and drop the menu listing to the desktop06:15
limonensei was ubuntu06:15
dennisterlimonense: great06:16
limonenseok06:16
dennisterok, what specific problems were u starting to get?06:16
manjunathathnx06:16
limonensewell my printer doesnt work06:16
Dark_Vampirehow do i know which version of kubuntu i got?06:16
bioticpro!youtube sound06:16
ubotuIf you aren't getting sound while watching videos on youtube then please read this URL: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=108799406:16
limonenseit's installed in i win machine but shared06:16
fildoDark_Vampire: lsb_release -a06:17
dennisterlimonense: do u have a good image backup?06:17
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intelikeymanjunatha or you could open an editor and make a launcher then save to the desktop dir....   but that's prolly over your present head.06:17
limonensetoday i tried to install my printer in my ubuntu machine and i couldn't06:17
fildohaha06:17
Dark_Vampirethank you fildo06:17
fildolimonense: dose it support linux ? have linux drivers ? or a network printer06:17
limonenseyes it does06:18
limonensemy version supports hp printer06:18
dennisterlimonense: what kinds of error messages were u getting when u tried to reinstall the priner?06:18
VanessaEtime for bed.  night all.06:18
dennister*printer06:18
fildobed! but i just got up !06:18
limonensewhen i tried to print it sent to the printer list the document and never printed it06:19
intelikeyyeah bed.... that thing that sissies use....  :)06:19
intelikeydon't tell vanessaE  i said that.06:19
Dark_Vampiremay I update it somehow? just got 5.0406:19
limonensewell sorry06:19
fildolol . u must have some good meth :D06:19
dennisterk; it it possible that it's a cups problem?06:19
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fildoDark_Vampire: apt-get dist-upgrade06:20
limonensewhen i sent the dcoument to print, the printer just never worked06:20
fildoadd sudo infront06:20
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Dark_Vampirethanks again06:20
fildonps mate06:20
dennisterwhen i first tried to install mine i was having the same probs06:20
limonensei think so06:20
limonensebcause when the printer was installed on the win machine it worked perfect!06:21
limonenseaha06:21
limonenseim reading06:21
dennisterhmmmmmm (trying to remember what i did)06:21
fildoyeh probably cause its not supported06:21
intelikeyDark_Vampire hoary ?06:21
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fildoi have a cannon multi function. not suported by linux!06:21
fildoso hence i cannot use, unless u use turboprint06:21
dennisterlimonense: what r u reading?06:22
Dark_Vampireintelikey: yes06:22
intelikeyDark_Vampire i know fildo was answering you.  are you wanting to upgrade hoary to edgy ?06:22
dennisterdo u think your reading material might solve the problem for u?06:22
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Dark_Vampirewhats the difference?06:23
intelikeyor just update the hoary system   i.e. install any bug fixes / security patches  ?06:23
limonensei mean im reading you06:23
fildocause my way just updates system ..06:23
intelikeyabout a year and a half of developement06:23
fildodosnt upgrade the distro06:23
intelikeyDark_Vampire the versioning system is  year.month06:24
dennisterok...i think your printer isn't installed properly in the cups administration06:24
limonensewhat should i do06:24
dennisterit's hard to say cause ur not at ur linux hdd install now, right?06:24
intelikeyDark_Vampire so 5.04 is april 2005 release.  the latest is 6.10  this month.06:25
limonenseright06:25
dennisteri know you go to a web browser and type in the url field: localhost:631...should take u to ur cups admin page06:25
intelikeyDark_Vampire there are some improvements in hardware support and multimedia support  other than that hoary is not so different.06:25
limonenseyes06:25
intelikeyDark_Vampire question.   do you have high speed internet ?06:26
Dark_VampireDSL 6000(and in 1Mbit lan)06:26
dennisterthen you fiddle with the adminstration tab...it can be hard to do, but that could end up being the solution06:26
fildoDark_Vampire: good. ull need it06:27
limonenseand when i try to uninstall my printer using cups it asks for my usarname and passwd and doesnt do anything06:27
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dennisterthere's not really any point in trying to help you further right now, since you can't implement the suggestions...username for cups admin is just lpadmin06:27
Dark_Vampireok... and whats the command to get it?^^06:27
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intelikeyDark_Vampire then upgrading would not be so bad for you.  but you might want to dl the latest install cd / iso   and install along side if you have the disk space   then you can migrate all setting to the new system.06:28
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dennisteri don't think u even need to fill in a password, but i could be very mistaken06:28
intelikeyshop and compare06:28
limonensewell thanks, tomorrow ill be back in my pc06:29
dennisterlimonense: r there any other problems u'd like to discuss now?06:29
dennistertomorrow would be better, but u said there were lots of problems06:29
intelikeylimonense better pick his brain now.  tomarrow you might only find me    8*|06:30
dennisterlol...i'm a newbie intelikey06:30
intelikeysssh  don't tell him06:30
dennisterlol06:31
intelikey:)06:31
limonenseok06:31
limonensemy next problem is my netword06:31
dennisteri'm just glad i can help someone...i've gotten so much assistance here from others06:31
limonensenetwork06:31
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intelikeyif i can remember it....06:32
dennisterstop it intelikey! :)06:32
intelikeyoh sorry06:32
dennisterlol06:32
dennisterlimonense: do u have one ethernet card, or more than 1?06:33
intelikeyyou guys crack me up some times06:33
limonenseinterlikey whats ur problem06:33
dennisterlaughter is great mental health exercise and medicine06:33
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dennisterhe's just being silly...don't mind him06:33
limonenseok06:34
intelikeylimonense just getting a chuckel now and then out of typos and other humourous things06:34
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dennisterso i ethernet card or 206:34
limonensewell my ubuntu sys used to be on the Ms networdddddd06:34
intelikeylimonense i'm not trying to be mean.06:34
dennistertypos can be so hilarious...and we all do them06:34
limonenseok i got it06:34
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dennisterback to the network problem: 2 ethernet card or just one?06:35
intelikey!samba06:35
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT06:35
limonensebut now it doesnt work06:35
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limonenseyes i got samba06:36
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limonensebut i need to cofigure it06:36
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intelikeyi honestly am about network illiterate, i've never setup a samba config  nor  an eth# for that matter.06:37
dennisterlimonense: samba aside...pls answer my question: 2 ethernet cards or just one?06:37
dennisterthat has to be taken care of first06:37
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limonensejust one06:38
dennisterk can you surf?06:38
limonensesurf???06:38
dennistersurf the net06:38
dennisterdo google searches and stuff06:38
intelikeybrowse the internet/entranet06:38
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limonenseyes i can06:39
limonensehahaha im an  idiot06:39
dennistergood; that means the other things, like samba and cups, are fixable06:39
KaiHanarisorry for the spam, script troubles.... its over now.06:39
limonenseaha06:40
dennisterlol...06:40
intelikeyKaiHanari ?06:40
KaiHanariintelikey, my join / quit spam.06:40
intelikeyi'm not seeing any06:40
dennisterk trick with a lot of things to do with samba can be done through system settings06:40
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intelikey-:- KaiHanari06:41
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KaiHanariintelikey, you joined after it all then06:41
dennisterrule is: if you don't know what something means, leave it to default settings...unless you've changed it extensively already06:41
fildone1 setup swat ?06:41
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limonenseand how can i conf samba smb:...06:41
fildoim wondering if i should.! but my conf. is good06:41
fildosudo joe /etc/samba/smb.conf06:42
intelikeyoh the join / repetes KaiHanari heh ok.06:42
fildoopps. cause my text editor is joe06:42
limonensei read i can access the samba server using konqueror right?06:42
dennistersamba has a section in system settings...another program i like for my lamp server here is something called webmin, but don't bother if you don't have a lamp serer06:43
intelikeyKaiHanari i see them but i'm so accustom to ignoring them as they scroll by that it didn't regester with me.06:43
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dennisterlimonense: when your samba is working you can access the other computers through konqueror06:43
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intelikeyso what kind of script ?06:43
dennisterbeing able to see it and the other computers in konqueror is key06:44
dennisterif you can see them, samba's working06:44
Dark_Vampireuhm fildo?06:44
limonensewell how do i do it?06:44
limonensei was looking for a samba GUI i found some but they didn't work, or maybe i didnt work06:45
fildouhm ?06:45
intelikeyjoe is good06:45
fildoindeed06:45
Dark_Vampirelab_release  - a say i still got the 5.04 version?06:45
intelikeyif you like vi06:45
fildobetter then vi06:45
fildo:P06:45
limonenseand my boss is about to kick my ass out06:45
dennistersetup your own shares first...make sure other comptuers are sharing their drives...06:45
cpk2limonense: you tried swat?06:45
intelikeyyea but if you don't like vi to begin with you wont like joe either06:46
fildoswat just webbased config right ?06:46
dennisterchances are that the other computers are sharing...it's just ur pc06:46
limonensecpk2: no i didnt06:46
cpk2limonense: all though samba is pretty easy to set up, you really shouldnt need a gui06:46
dennisteryes, that's what swat is...gui config for samba06:46
limonenseok06:46
Dark_Vampirelab_release - a say i still got the 5.04 version? @ fildo06:46
dennisteri use webmin instead of swat, but hten again i have a lamp server which isn't needed by desktop-only isntallations06:47
intelikeyslb_realeas06:47
cpk2limonense: do you already have samba set up and everything?06:47
intelikeylsb06:47
intelikeyhehhe me tooo06:47
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fildohoary!06:47
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limonenseyes i do06:47
intelikeylsb_release   ther i finally got it.06:47
cpk2then why even bother with using a gui? once its set up you really shouldnt need much admin after that?06:48
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dennistercpk2: it stopped working for him06:48
dennisterthat and a few other things06:48
limonensewell i cant see my friend's computers06:49
cpk2oh well thats no good06:49
cpk2limonense: but you can ping your friend's computers?06:49
Dark_Vampirefildo ant intlikey: so on horay i can just version 5.04? and is there a way to get edgy without reinstall the full system?06:49
limonensenop06:49
dennisterdo you know how to restart samba if it doesn't initialize at boot?06:49
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fildoyeh u can mirgrate system06:50
intelikeyDark_Vampire not really.  you are skipping two releases06:50
fildobrb gotta actually do some work06:50
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limonensei guess...06:50
dennisteranother trick with samba is: after every change you make to samba, do a "testparm" command06:50
dennisterhold on...bback in a sec06:50
cpk2limonense: you guys cant even ping each other?06:50
yonkeltronwill python 2.5 be included in edgy?06:50
intelikey5.04 > 5.10 > 6.06 > 6.1006:50
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dennistertestparm /etc/samba/smb.conf -d -f06:51
fildotestparm .. nice command06:51
fildomental note on that one06:51
dennisterthen it may give you clues through error messages in how to fix it06:52
Dark_Vampireso i have to download the full CD, burn ist, and install it again? :( (just done that yesterday... the installation of kubuntu, not the download)06:52
cpk2you can upgrade versions via apt-get06:52
intelikeyDark_Vampire what cd did you dl ?06:52
Dark_Vampirethe Kubuntu CD... but this is much time ago now...06:53
yonkeltronany zeroconf gurus in here?06:53
Dark_Vampirei had kubuntu before but anyway i didnt used it long time... now again^^06:53
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dennisteryou should be using that testparm after every single change you make, then restart samba06:53
limonenseok06:53
josehola06:54
dennisterthat way you can see if the change you've made has worked06:54
josei am new in kubuntu06:54
dennisterlimonense: do you ever use partimage for true image-type backups?06:54
josenadie abla espaol06:55
intelikeyand actually no you don't have to.  you can sed 's/hoary/edgy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade     but be prepared to fix all kinds of querks and bugs and other broken gizmos06:55
limonenseno i never whats that06:55
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josei need amsn in kubuntu06:55
dennisterk download something called systemrescuecd and burn it to a cd06:55
limonenseok i will06:56
intelikeyi upgraded from hoary to dapper  that way.   but it's not for the linux newbee nor the faint of heart06:56
dennisterit's another livecd...but with mostly utilities like qtparted and partimage06:56
intelikey@ Dark_Vampire06:56
dennisteronce you have your pc working optimally, use partimage for true backups06:56
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josei need amsn06:57
dennisterpartimage is like Norton's ghost or Acronis Tue Image06:57
limonenseso i can make my backups?06:57
intelikey!amsn06:57
dennisterI love Acronis for windows myself06:57
ubotuamsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB06:57
josesi06:57
limonenseoooo norton ghost06:57
intelikeyjose so install it06:57
dennisterlimonense: i'd rather not overload you with too much info tonight06:57
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Dark_Vampirei see... then i should not try it couse i am a newbee^^ (ok problems can be very good to make new experiences but... :D like i will never forget the command "umount -l" ;) )06:58
limonenseim saving all ur saying...06:58
dennisterdownloading systemrescuecd tonight will help you eventually...but when u get your system working properly06:58
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intelikey!repos > jose06:58
maryenedgy eft is getting 3.5.5 kde06:59
maryenweep all ye mortals06:59
intelikeyDark_Vampire :)    if you can fix things from the console, go for it.   cause i assure you that it will break X for you.06:59
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dennisterto use partimage, you boot with the livecd, it's a commandline prompt, and becaue the OS is in ram only, none of your hdd's are mounted06:59
maryenwe're getting that next week06:59
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intelikeyand probably also break grub  (actually just the initramfs.img file)07:00
dennistermount something, but not the drive you want to backup07:00
Dark_Vampirei like to use the console, but fix anything right now... better not ;)07:00
Dark_Vampireso ill download a new CD07:00
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CelloGanyone here gotten ATI Radeon X1300 graphics card to work?07:00
josenadie habla espaol?07:01
CelloGsorry, with fbglrx instead of vesa07:01
limonensesi yo hablo espanol07:01
limonenseque paso jose07:02
Hawkwind!es07:02
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.07:02
josehola que mas07:02
joseal fin07:02
joseok ok07:02
dennisterto mount, say hda5 (where you want to save your backup image) you first "mkdir /dev/hda5 /mnt/mkdir" r07:02
joselimonense que mas07:02
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limonensedennister07:02
Hawkwinddennister: Not quite07:02
dennisterwhere the second 'mkdir' is anything you want07:02
josenecesito unas aclaraciones07:02
Hawkwinddennister: /dev/hda5 already exists07:03
limonensedennister: ok07:03
dennisterHawkwind: yes, i know,07:03
limonensea ver dime jose07:03
HawkwindYou don't mkdir in /dev at all07:03
dennisterk...ur right...i've forgotten07:03
joseok yo kiero instalar el amsn como ago pana07:03
Hawkwindsudo mkdir /mnt/some-mount-point && sudo mount /dev/hda5 /mnt/some-mount-point07:04
dennisterit's just mkdir /mnt/<anything u want>07:04
Hawkwindjose: English only please07:04
dennisterthat's better...07:04
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dennisterlimonense: Hawkwind really knows his stuff; i'm a noob, remember07:04
intelikeywould ubotu post in the lang of other channels ?07:04
limonensejose si quieres entra a  #ubuntu-es ahi estoy yo tambien07:04
intelikeyor is ubotu even in other channels ?07:05
joseok ya me meto07:05
dennisterHawkwind: i was trying to explain how to use partimage from the systemrescuecd07:05
Hawkwindintelikey: /whois ubotu and see07:05
limonensewho is ubotu07:05
Hawkwindlimonense: It's a factoid bot07:05
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intelikeyHawkwind but it's in #ubuntu also07:05
intelikeyanother instance07:06
limonensewoa07:06
Hawkwindintelikey: Right.  If you trigger him here, he only posts here07:06
HawkwindSame instance07:06
dennisterand u were ubotu when u first came into this irc channel07:06
intelikeyso whois isn't going to show07:06
dennisterbut that's because you were on livecd mode b4 you changed ur nic07:06
intelikeywhois ubotu shows   | channels : #kubuntu07:07
Hawkwind[12:06am]  Channels )-> #ubuntu-ops #ubuntu-motu #kubuntu-devel #kubuntu07:07
CelloGfrom the live CD, how do I mount /dev/sda1?07:07
Hawkwindintelikey: Depends on channel modes that are set, and what channels you are in with the bot07:07
dennisterbecause you had the same nic as the bot, that's precisely why I asked u to change it07:07
intelikeyyeah channels you are in07:07
dennisterHawkwind: it's sooooooo fast!07:08
Hawkwinddennister: His original nick was ubuntu.  You can't have the same nick twice on the same irc network07:08
Dark_Vampireintelikey: i have found a site where i read that i should not use edgy right now if Im not a experienced user who want to test it, becouse its a alpha version right now...07:08
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dennister:)07:08
limonensehehe07:08
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intelikeyDark_Vampire it's set to release this month07:08
dennisteroops...limonsense, that's right, ur original nic was the same as the bot...i did a typo07:08
intelikeyyou may be dl'ing the final or if not then it will only be one or two updates away07:08
Tm_Tintelikey: exactly, "will be in release condition"07:08
Hawkwindintelikey: ubotu is set to +i which is invisible.  Meaning, you only see the channels you and he are both in in his whois info.07:09
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Tm_Tintelikey: so don't instruct people who are not experienced to use alpha-beta stuff please ;)07:09
Tm_Tit's just not wise07:10
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morghanphoenixOkay, is there a known bug regarding cd & dvd drives getting stuck trying to read media even when it's not in?07:10
dennisterI'm finally getting some speed in ktorrent here07:10
intelikeyTm_T is it not ready yet ?07:10
limonenseok dennister, interlikey and hawkwind07:10
Hawkwindintelikey: No, not til the 26th07:10
morghanphoenixOr did I break it in a new way?07:10
limonensethank you all07:10
Tm_Tintelikey: it's not released, so you can't expect it to be ready07:10
Hawkwind!schedule > intelikey07:10
dennisterno probs limonsense07:10
limonensei got go to sleep07:10
dennisteryes, and come back tomorrow when ur at ur pc07:10
intelikeyoh two weeks07:10
limonensegotta go to slleep07:10
dennisterhelp will be more effective then07:11
limonensewhat time do guys are online?07:11
Tm_Tintelikey: you expect there's two weeks of waiting? =)07:11
limonensein the morning?07:11
dennisterthere's always someone here...it's inernational07:11
Hawkwindlimonense: All day and night.  We never leave actually07:11
intelikeyTm_T nope i expect that there will be one update in the iso  maybe two.07:11
dennister*international07:11
Hawkwindintelikey: There will be hundreds07:11
morghanphoenixSleep, I think I forgot what that is.07:11
limonensewow thats a good thing07:11
Hawkwindintelikey: In fact, tomorrow all of KDE 3.5.5 will be there07:12
dennisterHawkwind: where?07:12
morghanphoenixNow rebooting I seem to do a lot07:12
Hawkwinddennister: In Edgy07:12
limonenseok thanks again bye07:12
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dennisterahhh07:12
Tm_Tintelikey: yes but in packages... oh boy it's the most busy two weeks in release lifetime07:12
dennisterhave the kde folks fixed thekat problems?07:13
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intelikeyyeah.07:13
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intelikeyactually all i really have to go by is what they/you did with dapper.   i was running the final a week before the release07:14
intelikeybut i guess that is not normal maybe07:14
dennisterback when i was still struggling with the mandriva amd64 installation(s) kat was giving me all sorts of problems07:15
digivore_can someone explain this to me.. trying to do some updates, and i get this message in konsole07:15
Tm_Tintelikey: I used dapper from third week of development =)07:15
digivore_The following packages have unmet dependencies:07:15
digivore_  libtag1-dev: Depends: libtag1c2a (= 1.4-3) but 1.4-4~dapper1 is to be installed07:15
fildolshw < good command07:15
intelikeyTm_T not final07:15
dennisterat least i think it was causing the installations to fall apart with all the crashes07:15
dennisteri'd read about bugs in kat07:15
dennisteranyway, i'm offtopic i think07:15
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Tm_Tintelikey: yeah, I lived with dapper its whole 8-month development, what a ride it was07:16
Tm_Tbut now I'm gone ->07:16
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pierre_good day to ya all07:17
pierre_someone here using the last.fm radio streams?07:17
intelikeyand to answer the question asked eariler.   yes i do expect there to be little change if any the last week07:17
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fildogone to where Tim_t07:17
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intelikeyit's not like you can rewrite a major app one week before release07:17
intelikeyor should i say.  shouldn't07:18
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intelikeynow Dark_Vampire.    in reply  the release is in two weeks there about.   if you want to wait for the official release of edgy.    i'd still upgrade if i was going too.     (i don't expect to ever see edgy)07:20
fildome neither07:20
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fildoim happy with breezy server . n dapper desktop07:20
intelikeynever saw slimy or what ever it was   oh yeah breezy07:21
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Dark_VampireI'm downloading the CD at the moment :)07:22
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intelikey^507:22
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pierre_someone here who can help to get very fast my files from a computer with windows xp?07:23
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intelikeypierre_ can you put that in intelikey'ish so i can tell what you are asking ?07:25
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intelikeywhat running OS  are the files local or network access ?07:25
Blackenpierre_: Two ways: Set up an FTP on a server and throw them at it (or SCP if you're going over the 'net), or put them on some sort of removable storage.07:25
pierre_and i cant make a network connection and share the files?07:26
pierre_cause the computer can be connected with a crossover cable to my laptop07:26
HawkwindOr NFS, or Samba.  Certainly more than 2 ways07:26
pierre_samba is installed at my kubunut already i guess07:26
pierre_so probably thats the way07:26
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BlackenHawkwind: I didn't say there were ONLY two ways...:p07:27
BlackenHawkwind: Just two quick ones offhand.07:27
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dennisterg'nite pps07:29
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intelikeyscp if you can access the M$ box with ssh07:29
intelikeyscp is your friend07:30
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pierre_h m dont know, i am newbie07:30
pierre_hehe07:30
physicsnickhi, i just created a link to a bad resource in remote:/07:30
physicsnicknow it won't let me edit or delete the thing07:30
physicsnickhow do i get rid of it?07:30
morghanphoenixkdesu konqueror?07:32
morghanphoenixoops07:32
morghanphoenixI need sleep07:32
physicsnickno, the links only exist for my user07:33
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physicsnickthe links aren't in remote:/ for root07:33
neddiWhi to all07:33
maryenhi07:33
morghanphoenixello07:33
neddiWhow do i configure ZEROCONF, in my kubuntu?07:34
neddiWmaryen, morphanphoenix, hi07:34
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intelikeyphysicsnick then the settings are some place in ~/.kde/*       grep -HiRe'remote' ~/.kde    should help you find it.07:35
intelikeynever done that but it should work... may produce lots of output or only a few lines.07:36
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physicsnickblarg, nothing interesting07:36
physicsnickthe link is probably a file somewhere. it's a link like any other, like a mount point or whatever07:37
physicsnickthe fact that it lies in remote:/ is probably irrelevant07:37
physicsnickwhy on earth does ubuntu not let you delete links?07:37
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intelikeyphysicsnick i doubt it's a symlink  but on the outside chance it is.    find ~/.kde -name <insert the name here>07:38
physicsnicknothing07:38
physicsnickis it recursive?07:39
physicsnicki'm pretty sure it's a symlink07:39
physicsnicki'm doing find / -name <name> right now07:39
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physicsnicksearching the whole damn drive07:39
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intelikeyphysicsnick    find ~/.kde -type l07:40
intelikeythat'll list them all07:40
physicsnicknothing interesting07:40
intelikeyphysicsnick it's not going to be outside your home if other users dont see it..   i.e. root   :/07:40
morghanphoenixAnybody know an MP3 ripper that has good error correction?07:40
morghanphoenixKAudioCreator keeps getting hun up on my CDs.07:41
morghanphoenix*hung07:41
physicsnickintelikey, sure it could. maybe the file is actually called, say, nick.<name> and they all lie in the same folder07:41
physicsnickwho knows how konqueror parses what it shows in remote:/07:41
intelikeyi still say it's a url not a link07:41
physicsnickokay07:42
intelikeyphysicsnick did you have to give a passwd to make it ?07:42
physicsnickwell how do i delete it?07:42
physicsnicknope07:42
intelikeythen you have write access to the dir it's in.07:42
physicsnickgood point07:42
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physicsnicki clicked System Menu -> Remote Places, clicked Add a Network Folder, and typed in the wrong server address07:43
intelikeycould be /tmp/     but prolly $HOME07:43
physicsnickand it happily added the resource, and it won't let me modify or delete it07:43
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intelikeyi never mess with that pointy clicky thingy   ...07:44
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physicsnickargh07:44
physicsnickit lets me rename the link but it won't let me delete it07:44
physicsnickthis is ludicrous07:44
intelikeyumount it ?07:45
intelikeyheh07:45
physicsnicki had the same problem a year ago in breezy. i made a link to /media/data/tv on my desktop, and it wouldn't let me delete the damn thing afterwards07:45
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physicsnickAFDSGJA FDKGJDAFJAGFDAGF07:45
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maryen!edgy07:47
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule07:47
maryenwhen is edgy coming out07:47
physicsnickthe 28th i believe07:47
intelikeyphysicsnick care to try something ?     close all apps and switch to a console  and    tar -czf ~/backup-kde.tgz ~/.kde && rm -fr ~/.kde       logout  and back in.   i bet it fixes it..  but it will reset all your kde.07:47
physicsnickalright, hold on, lemme rejoin in irssi07:48
physicsnick*sigh*07:48
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physicsnickalright x is down07:49
physicsnickwhat command did you want me to run?07:49
intelikeyphysicsnick care to try something ?     close all apps logout and switch to a console;    tar -czf ~/backup-kde.tgz ~/.kde && rm -fr ~/.kde           then login.   i bet it fixes it..  but it will reset all your kde.07:49
physicsnickthx07:49
physicsnickwoah07:49
physicsnickalright07:49
intelikeyyou can restore from the backup file.07:50
physicsnickhow recent is that backup?07:50
intelikeyyou just made it.07:50
bmowhat's even easier than backing up the .kde directory is just renaming it to something like .kde.arf07:50
physicsnickyeah i was just going to say that bmo07:50
physicsnickbut intelikey, what do you mean i just made it?07:50
bmomv .kde .kde.arf07:50
physicsnickit's no good if it backed it up after i made the link07:50
intelikeytar -czf ~/backup-kde.tgz ~/.kde   will make a backup of your settings.07:51
physicsnickoh, wait07:51
physicsnicki understand now07:51
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bmothen when you log back in, kde will create a new .kde07:51
physicsnickyeah, no, i definitely cannot have that07:51
physicsnicki already have a huge amount of configuration in kde07:51
intelikeyand you don't have an odd folder hanging around in your home.07:51
physicsnickok well just to try it07:51
physicsnicki'll see if it's still there when i log in07:51
bmoyou can always undo it07:51
intelikeysure.07:52
physicsnickoh, wow07:53
physicsnickthe fonts are wonderful07:53
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physicsnicki upgraded from dapper with xgl, where i had all sorts of settings07:53
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physicsnickbasically my fonts are a mess07:53
physicsnickthey look really good with the default settings07:53
bmohah07:53
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intelikeybmo actually i find that some people like the idea of dropping that tgz to a disk for later use so ...07:53
physicsnickheh07:53
bmocan't you copy the default .kde fonts config to your old .kde?07:54
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intelikeyphysicsnick is the link gone ?07:54
physicsnickoh well, i intend to format the thing and reinstall edgy when it comes out anyway07:54
physicsnickbmo: probably, but i don't know how to do that. anyway it's not just the fonts, its the sizes and stuff07:54
intelikeythe link   the link ?07:54
intelikeywhat about the link07:54
physicsnicki had installed some of the font packs from automatix, and i had changed all the sizes because xgl fonts are screwed up07:55
physicsnickthe link's gone07:55
physicsnickso it's definitely in .kde somewhere07:55
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intelikeyi told you so !07:55
intelikeyi told you so !07:55
intelikeyi told you so !07:55
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physicsnick:)07:55
intelikey:)07:55
physicsnickuhohes07:56
physicsnicki did mv .kdeBAK .kde07:56
physicsnickafter stopping x07:56
physicsnickthen i started x again07:56
physicsnickand it's still on default config <.< >.>07:56
physicsnicklooks like it decided to not overwrite and not warn me07:56
intelikeytold you to make a tgz07:57
physicsnickyeah07:57
intelikeyi told you so !07:57
intelikeyi told you so !07:57
intelikeyi told you so !07:57
bmoin .kde/share/config, there are fonts in fsviewrc, kdeglobals, kdesktoprc07:57
physicsnickheh07:57
physicsnickwell looks like i'm stuck with the default config07:57
physicsnickat least i got rid of that damn link07:57
intelikeylol07:57
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noiesmoanyone done a successful upgrade from dapper to edgy?07:58
intelikeyhey it's not my fault if you do something to your box that i didn't say... :)07:58
physicsnicknoiesmo: yes, lots of people, myself for example07:58
noiesmophysicsnick, cool07:58
bmoI haven't had a successful one yet07:58
physicsnicki'm on kubuntu edgy upgraded from dapper07:58
bmoprobably because I've done automatix07:58
noiesmophysicsnick, you using xgl compiz etc07:58
physicsnickand as of 30 seconds ago, it works as it should, because i just nuked my .kde :(07:58
physicsnicknoiesmo: i was using xgl and beryl yes07:59
physicsnicki upgraded to edgy to use xorg 7.1 and beryl07:59
intelikeyphysicsnick actually the problem you hit was that you mv'd files to .kde then closed the running kde which overwrote everything you just wrote.07:59
physicsnickbut i haven't managed to install the beta nvidia driver07:59
physicsnickintelikey: no, i closed kde first07:59
intelikeyit's called auto-save session07:59
noiesmophysicsnick, aah ok07:59
intelikeyreally ?07:59
physicsnicki also have auto-save session turned off07:59
physicsnickyessir07:59
physicsnicki did sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop08:00
physicsnickthen mv .kdeBAK .kde08:00
physicsnickthen sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start08:00
intelikeywell i missed that one.   it shoudl have restored it.08:00
physicsnickyep08:00
physicsnicki should have done cp08:00
cpt|willardi just upgraded to the beta on my laptop and it doesn't work so i was wondering how to go about downgrading it back to an older version08:00
intelikeyor made the tar file08:00
physicsnick:)08:00
physicsnicki can't wait until edgy comes out for real, and until the new nvidia driver leaves beta08:01
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maryenwhy dont you just use dapper now physic08:02
maryen?08:02
physicsnickmaryen: because i like bleeding edge :)08:02
maryener08:02
physicsnicki'll probably just use xgl again, i still have it installed08:02
intelikeyyou can have it.08:02
maryeni mean why dont you just use edgy now08:02
maryenlol08:02
physicsnickmaryen, i am using edgy now08:02
intelikeyhe is08:02
physicsnickbut i want to reformat when it comes out of beta08:02
maryenah08:02
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maryenwhy?08:02
physicsnickbecause i upgraded from dapper08:02
maryenim liking all the packages we're getting today08:03
intelikeyphysicsnick yeah why ?08:03
physicsnickwell, lots of stuff seems a little iffy08:03
physicsnickfor example all my fonts were screwed up, although as of five minutes ago that's fixed08:03
intelikeyi upgraded from hoary to dapper  but that don't make me want to reformat08:03
physicsnickbut i can't install the nvidia driver, which is annoying08:03
maryenwhy not?08:03
physicsnickno idea08:03
maryenjust use the script install08:03
physicsnickhere's what it does08:03
physicsnickthe script says i'm missing kernel headers08:03
physicsnickso it compiles them itself08:03
physicsnickthen i can start x, and it seems to work08:04
physicsnickbut beryl crashes.08:04
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maryendid you install the driver from the packages first?08:04
physicsnickbut if i restart the computer, x won't start, it says something about wrong kernel headers and dumps me to a terminal08:04
physicsnickmaryen, yes08:04
physicsnickthat one doesn't work with aiglx08:04
maryengo and remove and purge all packages having to do with nvidia08:05
intelikeyphysicsnick it sounds like a kernel version/subversion issue08:05
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maryenlike nvidia-kernel08:05
physicsnickum... i typed sudo apt-get remove nvidia*08:05
maryeni uninstalled nvidia-kernel-common and source and that fixed the problem08:05
physicsnickand it's saying it wants to remove linux-386* among a variety of other packages that i definitely need08:05
intelikeylike the headers are compiling without the  -37.ubuntu.586  or what ever subversion08:06
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maryenall i know is i removed those packages and reinstalled the driver and it works now08:06
intelikeyyou don't need linux-386  it's a meta package08:06
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physicsnickooh08:06
physicsnickokay08:06
physicsnickif you say so08:07
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physicsnickdoing a --purge nvidia*, hopefully my computer doesn't explode08:07
maryeni was getting the same error btw08:07
physicsnickafter this should i try installing the beta driver?08:07
intelikeyit depends on linux-restricded-modules & linux-image-386 (the kernel package)08:07
maryenabout it having headers for 7186 or whatever08:07
maryenthe one before the current driver08:07
physicsnickalright08:08
intelikeyphysicsnick wait08:08
intelikeymaybe i should rephrase08:08
physicsnickit's telling me it already has a driver installed08:08
intelikeyyou dont need linux-386 unless you need some of the restricted moduls for ndiswarper or something.08:09
physicsnickthe beta driver installer that is08:09
maryenadd the --uninstall tag when executing the script08:09
physicsnickit uninstalled, but gave me a bunch of warnings08:09
physicsnickprobably because i purged nvidia* before uninstalling it08:09
maryeneh it should be fine08:10
maryenoh ya, to make it where the driver doesnt make all your fonts extra huge, do sudo nvidia-xconfig --no-use-edid-dpi08:10
physicsnickstarting kde08:10
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intelikeyah this is bull krap. df says     udev                  4.2G  2.5G  1.8G  58% /dev     but there is nothing mounted on /dev08:11
physicsnickyeah so it started up, as it always did when i installed the driver08:12
physicsnicki have the latest svn of beryl, should i use that or the 0.1 release?08:12
maryenhey physic, you using a dual core processor?08:12
intelikeywell i guess there is.   the initrd must mount root on /dev/ then mount /dev/root on /root   but that makes no sense at all.08:14
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intelikeythe output of df is screwy here.   i guess because i don't use udev maybe.  ?08:15
physicsnickmaryen: yes, but right now i'm running the 38608:16
physicsnicki used the sms kernel in dapper, beryl worked fine on both08:16
xenoterracidehow do I get kubuntu to rember my iptables rules on restart?08:16
physicsnicki want to get everything working on 386 first, then i'll switch to sms08:16
xenoterracides/rember/remember08:16
maryendo dmesg on the smp08:16
intelikeyxenoterracide script it.08:17
xenoterracidedo I have to write my own init script?08:17
maryenif it has a line talking about mmconfig, add pci=nommconf to your /boot/grub/menu.lst08:17
physicsnickwicked, it works08:17
physicsnickyou're a life saver maryen08:17
xenoterracidegentoo saves them on shutdown.08:17
physicsnicknow i hope this driver stays when i reboot08:17
maryenit will08:17
physicsnickgonna reboot now08:17
physicsnickthanks08:17
maryenk08:17
xenoterracideI have script to generate rules but it's not designed for init08:18
intelikeyxenoterracide no.  you just have to dump the settings someplace and add a command to restore them to something like /etc/rc.local08:18
intelikeyxenoterracide not designed for init ?08:18
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intelikeyshell script ?08:18
xenoterracideyeah08:19
intelikeyjust call it from rc.local08:19
xenoterracidek08:19
xenoterracideI'll probably just throw an iptables-restore in local08:20
intelikeyunless you are paranoid and want the firewall before the network comes on line.  then put it in /etc/init.d/network   maybe.08:20
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xenoterracidedoubtfull08:21
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xenoterracidethis computer is eventually going to be behind my gentoo router08:22
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xenoterracidewell it is now but I don't have any real firewall in routing08:22
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Brydenn33are there ANY dc++ programs for LINUX?08:27
Brydenn33any that are good anyway08:28
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Bertohi - my machine is really bad at getting DHCP leases.  It does not connect to any wireless connection with multiple access points all with the same essid.  Has anyone seen that?08:28
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method|dc++?08:29
maryensort of berto08:29
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maryentry installing wifi-radar and see if it can get you connected08:29
Brydenn33method|: http://www.dcpp.net/08:29
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Bertomaryen: cool thanks...08:29
Bertobtw - what's the name of the graphical updater app?08:29
shasbotthe touchpad on my laptop seeems to frequently lose functionality, the cursor will move, but it wont seem to affect anything other than a certain portion of one window08:29
Jucatoadept_updater08:30
shasbotthen after a few minutes, it jolts across the screen, and then opens a menu or something, and works again08:30
Bertothanks08:30
shasbothas anyone else had a simmilar issue?08:30
maryendid it work berto?08:31
Bertomaryen: i don't have multiple access points here, but it installed08:31
Bertomaryen: it also doesn't get DHCP from my router either over eth0.  can't figure that one out...08:31
maryenweird08:31
Bertoit just seems that i have bad dhcp packages08:31
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krautmoin08:33
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Bertomaryen: wifi-radar looks good.  Should i get rid of wlanassistant then, or is there any reason to have both?08:36
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Bertonext question - for my wired net device, i'd like to use NetworkManager -- but when I run it, NOTHING happens.  Any ideas on what might be going on?08:37
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maryeni don't know whats with network manager berto08:39
maryenit doesnt work for me either08:39
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Bertohaha my one friend swears by it, but i can't even get the thing to run08:39
maryendid you guys hear?08:39
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maryenhans Reiser got arrested for murder!08:39
Bertohaha yeah just saw that on digg08:39
Bertowas gonna get to the article.08:39
maryenim reading it right now08:40
Bertoanother question - i put in a USB memory device (for my flash card), and have tons of stuff in /dev/sd* -- is there an app that will automount these for me?08:40
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maryenin kde it automounts it08:41
maryenit'll ask you if you wanna open up a window with the drive's contents on it08:41
fildoit should in every DE08:42
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Bertomaryen: no it doesn't.08:42
Bertothis is the stuff that should be made easy for people and it STILL DOESN'T WORK08:43
maryenthats strange berto08:43
maryenthe only time i had trouble with it not automounting usb drives is when i built a custom kernel08:44
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maryenit appears there is biological and circumstantial evidence against mister reiser08:45
maryenthat would be messed up08:45
maryenthe murderous filesystem, reiserfs408:45
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Bertoi tell you man, i've been using linux for over 8 years, i'm sick of fighting with this garbage.  every distro claims to be easy to use, and then something like a USB device can't even autoload on every machine.08:46
maryenharsh unix_infidel08:46
Bertounbelievable.   and good if he's convicted torture him and give him the death penalty08:46
unix_infidelBerto: then dont use it.08:46
maryenill take my battered heart and hide in the corner08:46
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Bertounix_infidel: typical attitude.  and then everyone wonders why the linux community scrapes the bottom of the barrel08:47
unix_infidelBerto: I dont complain, i ask questions.08:47
unix_infideleg: how do i get my USB drive to autoload when i insert it into a USB port.08:47
SquatchWhat's the utility for formatting a new HDD?08:48
maryen|sulkingberto, honestly, right now linux is still growing, and if you aren't willing to work a little to get what you want in it, its not for you08:48
Bertounix_infidel:  i'm sick of re-learning new distributions hoping that things like this won't suck.08:48
unix_infidelBerto: getting a usb drive to autoload is pretty much standard accross all "distro"s08:48
Bertooh god can it maryen|sulking ... i've been following the community for nearly a decade08:48
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Bertounix_infidel: what KDE service should be running for that to work?08:48
maryen|sulkingand yet you whine like this?08:48
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bmowhat distro doesn't have automountd?08:49
Bertomaryen|sulking: dude i've done more for the linux community tthan any of you can imagine.  i'm entitled to some crybabying08:49
unix_infidelBerto: i'd like to see your vitae.08:49
BertoOK, i plug in my USB card, tons of crap in /dev/sda* shows up -- then nothing happens after that.08:49
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bioticprohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fZ3FRuH41w&mode=related&search=  <pro linux spot from TechTV08:51
Bertomy work involves getting Linux into the test, measurement, and automation industry using industry-standard hardware and software.  Biggest wins include production machines in many german automaker plants08:51
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bmoberto: which linux distro?08:51
Bertoits stable as a rock.  then i come home and still need to type the command "mount /dev/sda1 /media/whatever"08:51
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Bertobmo: those projects were RHEL08:52
bmohttp://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/UserInfo/Resources/Hardware/IBMp690/IBM/usr/share/man/info/en_US/a_doc_lib/cmds/aixcmds1/automount.htm#HDRA131X91DA008:52
unix_infidelBerto: that's a pretty generic accomplishment.08:53
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Bertounix_infidel: haha if i didn't sign NDAs i'd love to tell you more08:53
unix_infidelBerto: i'm glad you got paid.08:53
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unix_infidelProves the old adage, you dont have to be smart to get paid.08:54
maryeneh? no flamewars please08:54
BertoHAHAHAHAHA  oh that's so cute.  i did a lot of work to get that win over windows or some RTOSs08:54
unix_infidelBerto: like i said, i'm glad you got paid.08:55
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Bertounix_infidel: i never mentioned getting paid.08:55
unix_infidel:)08:55
maryenby the way unix_infidel, how do i give k3b rights to burn cds without being root?08:55
Bertobut of course i did, it's my job to make thigns work.   all i'm saying is that it's a battle for everything, but when I plug my USB flash card in my laptop in late 2006, it should just pop up.  this shouldn't still be a battle for me08:56
bmomayryen: you run k3b as root _once_ and then you don't have to do it again08:56
bmoiirc08:56
maryennah, i always have to run as root08:56
abattoirmaryen: try running k3bsetup as root08:57
maryenok08:57
abattoirmaryen: or S08:57
unix_infidelBerto: your best bet is to add a line to /etc/fstab.08:57
abattoiror Settings->Setup K3b would also help08:57
cpk2maryen: i used apt-get to get k3b and have always ran it as user08:57
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Bertounix_infidel: i know how to do that.  but isn't this supposed to be "linux for human beings" ??08:57
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cpk2Berto: part of the "linux for human beings" is this channel08:58
Bertotouche08:58
unix_infidelBerto: dont you know a marketing ploy when you see one.08:58
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unix_infidelBerto: you know this, use it.08:58
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Bertoapparently not.  ubuntu is doing well though, this is one of my first couple of pet peeves.  beats the socks off mandriva/mandrake08:59
unix_infidelBerto: honestly i agree there.08:59
unix_infidelBerto: at the same time, try and do some of the things in Windows with LUA.  And you'll have many more pet peeves.08:59
bmohttp://www.mydigitallife.info/2006/09/10/how-to-mount-usb-disk-drive-in-unix-or-linux/09:00
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bmoread the last paragraph, berto09:00
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Bertobmo: what year is this, 1997?  this paper shouldn't even exist.  In Mac, you know what you do?  you plug it in!09:01
Bertobmo: anyway, i use kde - hence the kubuntu channel no?09:01
unix_infidelBerto: no that's in OS X.09:01
unix_infidelin mac (aka darwin) you do something along the same lines.09:02
bmoberto: you say that you're using RHAT09:02
bmoredhat is _gnome_ based09:02
Bertooh lord.   bmo - no, my german test sets were all RHEL09:02
Bertoi'm using kubuntu on this new laptop09:02
unix_infidelBerto: Congrats, which laptop?09:03
maryenunix_infidel, still no luck09:03
Bertoanother thing that stinks is that i had to grab windows wireless drivers and use ndiswrapper.  i wonder if the community could ever automate that09:03
unix_infidelmaryen: ?09:03
Bertounix_infidel: dell latitude d820... i love the thing09:03
maryenk3b still demands root09:03
unix_infidelmaryen: i do all media stuff in windows and OS X.09:03
unix_infidelLinux is primarily a production box for me now.09:03
maryenbah09:03
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physicsnickwow, okay problem, BIG problem09:04
maryenyeah?09:05
maryensystem is freezing?09:05
physicsnickso i purge nvidia*, install the beta driver, install beryl svn09:05
physicsnickand everything works great09:05
unix_infidelmaryen: what is the problem exactly.09:05
BertoHAHAHA... to cap off this great adventure, it looks like my drunken friends and brother formatted the pictures I wanted off of this camera.  Unbelievable09:05
unix_infideli'd wager you arent giving the user specific permissions in groups or via fstab.09:05
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physicsnicki reboot and the driver sticks YAY, beryl runs YAY, everything seems to work, right?09:05
maryenit says k3b doesnt have the permissions to burn cd09:05
physicsnickso I start up irc to tell of my exploits... aaaand, my ath0 wireless adapter is gone.09:05
Bertoi knew something was wrong when i finally found the camera and it had the default screen.  oh boy.  i'd rather have had USB not work and not find out about this09:06
physicsnickGONE, like it never even existed.09:06
unix_infidelmaryen: read above.09:06
physicsnicki tried uninstalling the beta driver, to no avail; i am now internet-less on kubuntu.09:06
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physicsnickideas anyone?09:06
maryenk3bsetup?09:06
unix_infidelmaryen: no, read above.09:06
maryenphysic, how did you get wirless before?09:07
physicsnickhow? it always just worked. it works natively when i boot from the livecd09:07
physicsnicki have an atheros chipset, madwifi drivers are preloaded in ubuntu09:07
maryenhmm09:08
physicsnicki can't imagine why installing a video driver would cause ath0 to disappear09:08
maryendo you know the driver modules names?09:08
physicsnickand i don't exactly have a spare computer lying around to chat about it while i fix it09:08
maryenif so just do a modprobe ****09:08
physicsnickno, i don't know the module's name09:08
physicsnickbut i assume it vanished when i purged nvidia*, yes?09:08
physicsnickhmm, wait09:09
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physicsnickif i can view my dpkg logs, i can see what i purged09:09
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physicsnickso i can add the kernel headers back, right?09:09
maryenyes09:09
maryenthe normal kernel headers were fine09:09
physicsnickkay09:09
maryenjust dont install the nvidia ones09:09
physicsnickso why did it remove them when i purged nvidia? doesn't it realize i need them?09:09
Manyfoldwhere does kubuntu keep it's installation logs09:10
bmoin /var09:10
maryenit removed you linux-headers??09:10
maryenwerid09:10
physicsnickyessir09:10
maryenweird*09:10
physicsnickit removed lots of stuff09:10
maryenwell reinstall them and see if that works09:10
physicsnickdidn't give me any options09:10
physicsnickk09:10
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physicsnickbbl, wish me luck09:10
maryenand ill research on my side09:10
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xenoterracidewhat file sets $EDITOR (assumes it is editor)09:11
bmomanyfold, the installation log is in /var/log/dpkg.log09:11
xenoterracideI went to edit /etc/sudoers with visudo and I see it's using nano09:12
xenoterracideI need to change this to vim09:12
bmothat _is_ visudo09:13
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mindspindoes anybody know if kmobiletools (or any other application for cellphones) work with nokia slvr l7 ?09:14
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xenoterracideit uses nano if $EDITOR is set to nano09:14
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xenoterracidevim if set to vim etc..09:14
feethello. some windows have no border. i press alt-space/right click to open the Advanced menu... but No Border is undeselectable (greyed out) and the tick mark is stuck in place... is there somewhere where i can manually over ride these settings??09:15
xenoterracidethat variable is set in rc.conf in gentoo however the file does not exist in kubuntu09:15
feetthanks in advance09:15
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bmofrom the visudo man page09:17
bmoNormally, visudo does not honor the VISUAL or EDITOR environment variables unless they contain an edi09:17
bmo       tor in the aforementioned editors list.09:17
bmoHowever, if visudo is configured with the --with-enveditor flag or the09:18
bmo       enveditor Default variable is set in sudoers, visudo will use any the editor defines by VISUAL or EDITOR.09:18
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bmoNote09:18
bmo       that this can be a security hole since it allows the user to execute any program they wish simply by setting VISUAL09:18
bmo       or EDITOR.09:18
xenoterracideright09:19
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xenoterracidealthough I think it would be a small security hole09:20
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bmoif you're the only sudoer, xenoterracide, it's a small hole.  if you're not, it's a big hole09:21
neddiWhttp://digg.com/linux_unix/Hans_Reiser_Arrested_On_Suspicion_of_Murder09:21
xenoterracideas it is the person(s) with write access to the file that define which editors are present on the system and who has write access to that file09:21
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|Asgard|hey guys im running VMware and i have dual screens so evertime i put the vmware into full screen it spans accross the two screens what can i do so that it will only go full screen on one screen?09:22
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xenoterracideanyway thx for the help bmo09:23
bmoasgard: you are asking a mutually exclusive question....09:23
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bmoI tried, xeno09:23
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xenoterracideheh well it made me do a double look at the gentoo config09:24
xenoterracide# Set default EDITOR to vi, and do not allow visudo to use EDITOR/VISUAL.09:24
xenoterracideDefaults  editor=/usr/bin/vim, !env_editor09:24
bmoif X spans 2 monitors, and you click fullscreen, it's naturally going to span the whole desktop09:24
xenoterracideI think that line is commented by default in gentoo09:24
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physicsnickargh09:25
maryen??09:25
xenoterracidewhich is why I remember editor controlling it at one point09:25
physicsnickwithout the restricted modules, ath0 disappears09:25
physicsnickwith them, x won't start09:25
XVampireXAnyone tried ext4 yet?09:25
xenoterracideconsidering it just made mm sources nope09:25
physicsnickany ideas maryen?09:26
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maryenyou might try ndiswrapper09:26
bmoxeno: roll your own.  visudo is small enough.09:26
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physicsnickyeah, no, definitely not going to do that.09:26
xenoterracidebmo ? huh what do you mean?09:26
maryenwhys that physic09:27
xenoterracideI'm confused at your suggestion why would I need to?09:27
maryenwhy's*09:27
physicsnickbecause there's no reason i should have to completely change my wireless drivers just to get a video card driver working09:27
physicsnicki'm gonna submit a bug report to nvidia about it, because that's just ridiculous09:27
|Asgard|thx09:27
physicsnickbut in the meantime i'll live without beryl09:27
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bmoget the source, and do a ./configure the editor specified09:27
bmothen just copy it over09:28
maryenphysicsnick: then you'll need to wait till the nvidia-glx package is working again09:28
maryenor build your own kernel09:28
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bmonvidia-glx is busted?09:28
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maryenon edgy it is09:29
physicsnickno, it's not busted09:29
maryenwhat's this about ext4 btw?09:29
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maryenooh i see they fixed the dependencies for it09:29
physicsnickyeah, it's not busted, i'm using it right now09:30
physicsnicknvidia-glx works fine09:30
xenoterracideit got moved into mm sources maryen09:30
maryenhow good is it compared to 3?09:30
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XVampireXYeah, I wanna know performance wise09:30
bmoext4: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~mihaib/fs/fs.html09:31
xenoterracidemost of what ext4 is about won't be that useful  on the desktop09:31
maryendual disk filesystem09:31
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maryen??09:31
bmoext4 is basically a refinement of ext2, which uses two partitions simultaneously, ideally placed on separate disks.09:31
XVampireXDoesn't sound too interesting09:32
maryendamn those corporate users09:32
bmoit's a fake raid0 from what I can see09:32
xenoterracidealong with the fact that it can store several Petabytes of information09:32
maryeni oughta club them and eat their bones09:32
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bmoraid0 without actual raid09:33
xenoterracideand it allows faster reads of where information is on a disk by using ranges for non fragmented contiguous blocks09:33
XVampireXxenoterracide: So starting up applications is faster due to finding the neccessary libraries faster?09:33
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xenoterracidepossibly09:34
XVampireXPossibly is not that helpful09:34
xenoterracideI'm not an expert09:34
xenoterracideI doubt it will be that noticible on a desktop09:34
xenoterracides/noticible/noticable09:34
xenoterracideit should be09:34
xenoterracidefaster that way yes09:35
XVampireXah09:35
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xenoterracidebasically the way ext3 does it is that things are listed in metadata 1 block at a time09:36
xenoterracideso it has to look at each block09:36
xenoterracideor at least each reference 1, 2, 3, 4 etc09:36
xenoterracideif 1,2,3,4 is a file09:36
xenoterracideext4 would allow that to be 1-409:36
xenoterracidemaking lookups faster09:36
xenoterracideas I understand it09:37
xenoterracidemost of this is really only usefull with really large files and huge filesystems09:37
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morghanphoenixWhat's a good file system for handling large files? Ext3 seems to lag a lot on deletion and copying of gig sized files.09:42
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bmomorganphoenix: jfs and xfs were designed to handle large files09:47
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Mantitss^10:35
MantitsFirst boot on Kubuntu :DD10:35
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hAPPY_mAJAHow do I install a program in *.bin??10:44
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MantitsEerr10:52
MantitsI have a 17gb FAT32 partition with my music in it, why can't I view it in Konqueror10:53
MantitsI get an error that says it can't be mounted10:53
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xenoterracideis fat32 enabled in the kernel?10:54
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xenoterracidethat's first guess10:54
MantitsNo clue dude10:55
MantitsI've been using this for about 30 minutes now10:55
MantitsIs there a command for checking/enabling that?10:55
xenoterracidewell... yes but it seems that *buntu hasn't enabled suport for it10:55
xenoterracideare you using the livecd?10:55
MantitsI have it, I'm not using it10:55
xenoterracidehmm...10:56
xenoterracidewhere's the config for the kernel10:56
xenoterracidehave you tried mounting it on the command line?10:58
pacmanI've got a question10:58
Mantitsno, I have no idea how to do that10:58
tainted_oneyou could just try mount -t fat32 /dev/yourfatpartition /mnt/youmountpoint an look at the output10:59
pacmanmy 3d-acceleration isn't working right10:59
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Mantitsok10:59
xenoterracidemantits check this http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/30700-fat32-ubuntu.html10:59
xenoterracideit might help you10:59
xenoterracidepacman that isn't a question10:59
pacmansorry11:00
pacmanI'm trying to get a game running correctly, but the fps is wicked slow11:00
pacmanhow do I fix it11:00
pacman?11:00
xenoterracidewhat video card do you have?11:00
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pacmanI have a Radeon 955011:01
weedarIs there a KDE equivalent of windowskey+m to minimize all windows?11:01
xenoterracidedid you install ati's proprietary drivers pacman?11:02
pacmanhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI11:02
pacmanI did most of that11:02
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xenoterracidewhat of that didn't you do?11:02
pacmanwhen I tried linx-restricted-module-$(uname -r)11:03
pacmanit said couldn't find11:03
pacmansame for sudo aticonfig --initial11:03
pacmanand --overlay-type=Xv11:03
Mantitserrg..11:03
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Mantitserr okay11:05
xenoterracidepacman is the 95x an r200 or r300 series11:05
MantitsI don't know what to call my mount pointr11:05
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pacmanI dunno11:05
pacmanhow can I find out11:05
xenoterracidecreate a directory called /mnt/fat32 mantis11:06
pacmanbook says RV350LX11:06
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xenoterracidemkdir -p /mnt/fat32 and use that for a mount point11:06
xenoterracidepacman do a lspci |grep radeon11:07
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pacmannothing11:07
xenoterracideerr.. make that a capital R11:07
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Mantits"unknown fileystem type"11:07
Mantits"fat32"11:07
Mantits:((11:07
AmorityWhen I try moving items from a cd into /usr/local/games (under root permisions) it says that KDE Media Manager isnt running and will not copy the files in there11:07
pacmanRV350AS11:08
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xenoterracidek well if it's a 350 then you need the proprietary drivers11:08
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pacmanhow do I get them11:08
tainted_oneMantits: try 'fat' instead11:09
xenoterracidepacman have you done an apt-get update recently?11:11
pacmanyes11:11
Mantits"permission denied"11:11
MantitsI can't do cd /dev/sda311:11
MantitsI'm in root11:11
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xenoterracideok.... maybe somethings wrong with sources.list then11:11
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tainted_oneMantis: use 'sudo', like 'sudo mount /dev/whatever /mnt/fat32 -t fat'11:12
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Mantitsdoens't know filesystem type "fat"11:12
Mantitsor "fat32"11:12
Mantits:<11:13
tainted_onehmm11:13
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xenoterracidewhat does uname -r give you pac man11:14
pacman2.6.15-26-38611:14
Mantitswell uhhh..11:15
MantitsI can't access my music partition11:15
Mantitsand I don't have any sound :<11:15
tainted_oneMantits: I just read a page that suggests using 'vfat' as type, you might try this11:16
xenoterracidepacman did you copy and paste this line "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) " or type it11:16
pacmancopy and paste11:16
xenoterracidek11:16
stephenhello all11:16
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Mantitsok, I'll try that11:17
xenoterracideI'm thinking it might be a sources.list problem11:17
tainted_oneMantis: this is the page: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows.php11:17
MantitsI got it working, great11:17
MantitsOnly I can't play any of the music, because I have no sound11:17
stephencan anybody help me in getting a 100mb zip disk working pleas?11:17
Mantits:<<11:17
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tainted_oneMantits: can't help you on this one, I haven't got a linux box around, glad you could mount it thou :)11:19
wildchildI have ge force 5500 which is on the least of nvidia-glx package. I've installed this package. What else do I have to install to make driveres work11:19
wildchildleast = list11:19
xenoterracidepacman if it is a source.list problem I can't really help you11:19
pacman:(11:19
MantitsDon't have a linux box.. but you're in #kubuntu..11:19
xenoterracideI'm still fairly new to debian systems...11:20
Mantits> Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)11:20
pacmanah11:20
xenoterracideI would have your back in a gentoo system cause I've gotten DRI working on all sorts of finicky radeons ;-)11:21
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MantitsDo I just need a driver for my sound card, or is this version of the kernel not going to support it at all?11:23
pacmanwell, thanks for your help anyhow11:23
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xenoterracidepacman you might try #ubuntu if you haven't already11:25
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pacmananyone awake over here?11:25
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frtdxhi everyone!11:26
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mehdihi all11:29
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orient2000Anybody has an idea what does it mean? Cannot write to `12B83718.gpg' (Broken pipe)11:48
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orient2000!pipe11:50
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pipe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:50
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Ouaaahhhhsdfqs12:10
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_buzis there a way to have a kde app running as root use my user's kwallet?12:16
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zorglu_likely12:17
zorglu_i dunno how, you may ask on #kde12:17
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robin__hello12:34
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grotheskDid someone release kde 3.5.5 for edgy?12:36
grotheskI found kde 3.5.5 packages in 'main' repos. Thought that edgy will contain kde 3.5.412:37
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Hobbseegrothesk: yeah, kde 3.5.5 got put into main.  i'm assuming it will be released/is released12:38
grotheskHobbsee: But I'm missing konqueror 3.5.512:38
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Hobbseegrothesk: no idea why, it's in the repos it seems12:40
grotheskSo it is a mix of 3.5.4 and 3.5.512:41
frojnds12:41
Hobbsee!info kdebase edgy12:43
ubotukdebase: base components from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.4-0ubuntu29 (edgy), package size 45 kB, installed size 88 kB12:43
Hobbseegrothesk: it must still be building12:43
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jonoanyone here going to the 10th anniversary in Stuttgart?12:50
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LeeJunFanHans Reiser arrested for murder! I figured that was coming.12:51
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LeeJunFanIt should be a class action suit, heheh. Considering the # of files that were murdered because of reiserfs.12:52
omarhello guys, I am trying to munt a folder from a windows machine with this command : sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.20/Nuevas ~/Lap -o urd=omar , but I get and error : mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //192.168.1.20/Nuevas12:52
omarWhat's wrong with it12:53
rahmetliif i install a deb package,can i remove it from adept later?12:53
LeeJunFanrahmetli: yes12:53
rahmetliLeeJunFan thanks12:53
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Momalanyone know the command for the kde panel? seems mine crashed and didn't restart... am I able to bring it up without restarting kdm/X12:54
KDEfanboyMomal: kicker12:55
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visik_kde 3.5.5 will be in edgy ?12:55
Momalthanks ^_-12:56
KDEfanboyvisik_: you bet12:56
visik_:) I don't like to bet :)12:56
KDEfanboyhah12:56
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LeeJunFanvisik_: well if you wanted to start now would be a good time. 3.5.5 started going into edgy repos yesterday, it's still not complete yet. But close.12:58
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AbortDhow do i add the task bar back to kicker?12:59
Hobbseevisik_: yes.  it's still building12:59
HobbseeAbortD: right click on kicker, add applet12:59
KDEfanboyAbortD: it's the "Taskbar" applet to add12:59
AbortDthanks01:00
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Mikaelhow can i install bmp (the music player)01:12
Mikaelit isnt in synaptic01:12
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Mikaeli extracted the bz2 archive01:13
Mikaelbut now i dont know further01:13
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grotheskMikael: Use a repo.01:14
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grotheskI know that I had a repo for bmp under Dapper.01:14
cpk2Mikael: you sure you cant get bmp from a repo? apt-cache search turns up several plugins for bmp01:15
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Mikaelcpk2: i didnt find it in the gui (frontend)01:16
Mikaeljust figured it out01:16
Mikaelsudo ./configure - sudo make - sudo make install (i guess)01:16
Mikaelsudo make wont work :(01:16
cpk2beep-media-player - Versatile audio player that supports Winamp skins01:17
cpk2!info beep-media-player01:17
ubotubeep-media-player: Versatile audio player that supports Winamp skins. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7.1+cvs20050803-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 831 kB, installed size 3592 kB01:17
emonkey-pThe Packe Name is beep-media-player01:17
cpk2jeez prove him wrong and he gets all angry01:17
cpk2=P01:17
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Mikaeli found it in the repo :)01:19
cpk2Mikael: did you see what ubotu said?01:19
Mikaelthx anyway01:19
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Mikaelcpk2: another thing: i don't find exaile in the repo http://www.exaile.org/index.rb?command=screenshots01:23
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cpk2i've never even heard of exaile01:24
cpk2is it supposed to be in the repos?01:24
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cpk2you can just download the pkg from their site01:25
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schwarzhi01:25
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Mikaelcpk2: i get errors01:28
Mikaeldependancy errors :(01:28
rahmetliis it enough to install a deb package to run, even it has some other requirements?01:29
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grotheskNo. Don't overlook dependencies.01:29
grotheskNever.01:29
rahmetlibut i cant find them in the repos? :(01:30
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grotheskWhat is missing?01:30
rahmetliQt 4.1 , QtXml , GlibC01:30
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rahmetlii could find other,i couldnt find these 3 req's in the repos.01:31
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rahmetlii am trying to install keepassX01:32
rahmetlihttp://keepassx.sourceforge.net/requirements/ is the req's page01:32
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rahmetlihow to install Qt 4.1 , QtXml , GlibC ?01:42
cox377i dont suppose anyone here uses GPS under linux?01:44
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rahmetlihow to install Qt 4.1 , QtXml , GlibC ?01:49
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PiRhi01:50
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PiRdoes it exist a equivalence for "youtube movie downloader" in linux ?01:51
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rahmetliWhat is Qt?? is it same with Qt designer?01:55
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narasimhanrahmetli: Qt is a library like gtk..01:57
rahmetliI need to install Qt,is it enough to install Qt designer?01:59
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narasimhanrahmetli: qt ,qt libs is installed if u have kubuntu...because kde needs it02:00
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narasimhanrahmetli: qt designer is a gui design program that enables u to develop user interfaces using the qt library..02:00
rahmetlinarasimhan ohhh ok. i was looking 4 it 4 an hour. :)02:01
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narasimhanrahmetli: ok02:01
rahmetlinarasimhan thanks02:01
narasimhanrahmetli: no problem....02:02
rahmetlinow i've 2 requirements remaining. QtXml and GlibC :(02:03
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narasimhanrahmetli: are u installing from synaptic?02:07
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rahmetlino.i couldnt find the program i want in the repos.02:07
rahmetlithe program is keepassX,http://keepassx.sourceforge.net/requirements/ is the req's page02:09
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moibjr02:10
moicommen ca va?02:10
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narasimhanbut your other requirements may be already  installed..did u check them..i am sure glibc is installed..02:10
narasimhanmoi: bonjour..02:10
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rahmetlii was controlling them from adept,if installed or not.02:11
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moinarasimhan commen va tu02:11
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narasimhanmoi:il va tres bien..i learnt french in my high school ..am i doin it right?02:12
rahmetlihow can i test if all the req's ok using console?02:12
moinarasimhan dsl je parle ke francais02:13
narasimhanrahmetli: if theres a configure file ..then u can open the console and cd to that directory and do a  ./configure ..it will tell u if u are missing somethin02:14
rahmetlinarasimhan its a deb package.02:14
narasimhanrahmetli: i am not very conversant with dpkg..i switched to ubuntu 1 month back..02:16
narasimhanrahmetli: i will try with the source now..02:16
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rahmetlinarasimhan thanks again.02:16
dinosaur-rushi all02:16
narasimhanrahmetli: i see it requires qt 4..02:17
rahmetlinarasimhan yes,dont we have it installed?02:17
narasimhanrahmetli: but i dont think qt 4 is available by  default..but its available in the repos..as qt402:18
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rahmetlii couldnt find in the repos,could you find it?02:18
narasimhanrahmetli: one min02:18
rahmetli5902:19
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rahmetli:))02:19
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narasimhanrahmetli: :)02:19
lineldr02:20
linelhi02:20
narasimhanrahmetli: the package is libqt02:20
narasimhanlibqt-dev libqt-core libqt-gui ..all three are available02:21
rahmetlioww really? GlibC is installed,the last QtXml,any information?02:21
dinosaur-rusis there mc (Midnight Commander) package available?02:22
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rahmetlinarasimhan can you write the exact name of the Qt package please?02:23
narasimhanrahmetli: libqt4-core02:24
narasimhanrahmetli: libqt4-dev,libqt4-gui ..sorry for the wrong info above02:24
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chxis it possible to have one KDE desktop strech two X servers? (I know this is crazy. But, I have crazy ideas.)02:25
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KDEfanboychx: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xdmx02:27
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chxKDEfanboy: after this, is there anything Linux won't do for me? :)02:28
benkong2can someone help me figure out where my wireless card is?02:28
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chxbenkong2: have you checked under your bed :P ?02:28
benkong2I have an X30 thinkpad Knoppix finds the card andso does Debian. But my new Kubuntu 6.10 Edgy does not. What can I do?02:28
benkong2Yes it's not there02:28
rahmetlibenkong what do you want to do?02:29
benkong2The correct drivers are loaded orinoco_pci and hostap_pci02:29
chxoooh02:29
benkong2I want to get my wireless card working02:29
narasimhanrahmetli: not able to find that package..02:29
chxorinoco_pci and hostap_pci ?02:29
benkong2when I do a dmesg I only see the e100 watchdog driver02:29
KDEfanboychx: yep, xdmx + full glx support and xvideo extension (at least not yet, afaik)02:29
benkong2I have a Prism 2.5 built in wireless02:30
narasimhanrahmetli: but u can get the source and try ./configure .. if that file is there..that may tell u what things more u need02:30
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chxbenkong2: yup. you need to disable the orinoco and hermes modules and use hostap.02:30
benkong2chx: will rmmod <driver> do that?02:30
chxI would not try that02:31
chxrather disable from modules.conf and reboot02:31
benkong2chx: let me check02:31
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chxi learned this about a few days back02:31
chxand banged my head against the wall02:31
benkong2chx: where is modules.conf located?02:32
chximagine my happiness of owning a Senao 2511 card02:32
chxand not being able to scan with _that_02:32
benkong2chx: I can only imagine02:32
rahmetlinarasimhan: i will try as it is :) what do you think? will it run properly?02:32
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chxbenkong2: from this point a search in ubuntuforums is more helpful than my poor memory02:32
narasimhanrahmetli: not sure..but it shld tell u during install whether it needs the packages02:33
benkong2chx: ok searching. I just did a locate modules.conf and all I come up with is one under gnome-vfs but I am running kubuntu02:33
chxhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192050&highlight=hostap02:33
chxthere02:33
chx" you'll have to create /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-hostap-utils and put"02:34
chxi remembered the filename wrong, sorry02:34
benkong2ok thanks checking02:34
chxalso the famous video of how to hack WPA02:34
chxis actually a freaking good tutorial of setting up wpasupplicant :)02:34
chxlet me dig a link02:34
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rahmetlinarasimhan: sudo dpkg -i pakagename but what else parameters do i need to see the additional error output02:35
benkong2chx: ok me smiles at chx02:35
chxhttp://www.mirrors.wiretapped.net/security/vulnerability-assessment/aircrack/whax-aircrack-wpa/whax-aircrack-wpa.html02:35
chxthis one.02:35
benkong2cool02:35
narasimhanrahmetli: it will spell out the packages it doesnt find..i think..02:36
benkong2the music is so nice02:36
narasimhanrahmetli: i am not sureif it will spell out the package names02:36
narasimhanrahmetli: but it will be close to the package name..so worth a try..02:37
rahmetlidoes dpkg has an option to see errors occured during installation?02:37
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Ouaaahhhhdpkg -i is giving error output02:39
chxKDEfanboy: so, my plan is to hook up one of my monitors to my notebook, grab a mediocre-aged fanless machine and drive the second monitor from that and hook them together by 100M Ethernet02:39
chxKDEfanboy: is this a viable plan?02:39
rahmetlithe option is "depends"02:39
Ouaaahhhhit's not error , it's dependance02:40
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KDEfanboychx: eh? drive the 2nd monitor?02:41
narasimhanOuaaahhhh: right its dependance .. :)02:41
rahmetliOuaaahhhh: depends: Turn all dependency problems into warnings.02:42
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dinosaur-rus"DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket" does dcopserver need specific firewall settings?02:42
chxKDEfanboy: I have two 20" Dell LCDs and ATM I have a desktop with a dualhead VGA card02:42
benkong2chx: is it really necessary to toos the /etc/iftab to make this work?02:42
narasimhanchx: :O great..02:42
chxbenkong2: I only read this so far02:42
benkong2ok off to reboot thanks02:43
chxKDEfanboy: now, I want to ditch my desktop and only use a notebook , but then I have no place to plug the second VGA cable02:43
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rahmetlinarasimhan: its ok02:43
rahmetliits running02:43
chxKDEfanboy: and matrox dualhead2go is no solution, the resolution is too high02:43
narasimhanrahmetli: great..u got it running02:43
rahmetlinarasimhan: we got it ;)02:43
chxso I think I need a second machine to drive the second monitor02:43
narasimhanrahmetli: ok..:)02:43
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dinosaur-rusdoes dcopserver need specific firewall settings?02:44
narasimhanrahmetli: i am from india ...u ?02:44
rahmetlinarasimhan:I am from Turkey02:45
narasimhanrahmetli: ok..02:45
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KDEfanboychx: mean you want the headless to process and the 2nd monitor to just display what it processes? and you want both displays to be one giant desktop?02:47
chxexactly02:47
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n5alredy second day can't change default kubuntu language from french to english, any help ?02:48
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chx(ok, not exactly, because the notebook is not headless, it actually drives the first monitor but yes it should do all the processing and the second machine should just do the displaying.)02:48
n5my all kde is in french02:48
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dinosaur-rusuh can anyone help me?02:51
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chxdinosaur-rus: http://tinyurl.com/e6m602:52
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dinosaur-ruswhat to do if I get the error "DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket"?02:54
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KDEfanboychx: yep xdmx will do that. like is said, afaik, it is limited in glx and xvideo support, though.. so for that you can set up Chromium along with it http://chromium.sourceforge.net/02:54
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chxI do not really know what xvideo is, and I think I do not care about glx :) I am a web programmer. I do not play games. I sometimes watch movies but even now I only use one monitor for that. I have very humble needs.02:56
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Ouaaahhhhn5 : go to menu -> paramtre du systme = system settings then go to  "regionalisation " then -> select the fourth categorie " Pays & langues - > select english02:56
chxKDEfanboy: you are very helpful, thanks a ton.02:56
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sorush20hi guys I can't see the windows >split view left/right in konqueror02:57
Ouaaahhhhn5  : in "pays & Langues " -> select "par dfaut" means "by default", select english02:58
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n5Ouaaahhhh - its selected in there english, but all KDE menius are in french02:58
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KDEfanboychx: xvideo is hardware accelerated video playback so you might find you need that after a while. perhaps  another alternative is set up clustering with something like openmosix (2.4 kernel only atm) to transparently distribute process loads02:58
n5ah ok, deleted french from system02:58
n5will reboot now :D02:58
ubuntu_where can i change my charset02:59
chxdinosaur-rus: you , of course, googled on the error message with quotes and checked the two results there that they do not apply to you?02:59
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Kommarihmm03:00
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n5Ouaaahhhh - anyway french, i even removed frensh packets from kubuntu03:04
Kommaricould anyone say how i can changme charset as im really not used to american charset03:04
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dinosaur-ruschx: that info from Google results didn't help03:05
chxdinosaur-rus: great. now is the time to tell us more about what you are trying to do and when you see this error03:06
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dinosaur-ruschx: http://pastebin.ca/19765203:08
Ouaaahhhhn5 : hehe  didn't link french ?03:08
Ouaaahhhh:-)03:08
n5i dont understand french almost03:09
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chxdinosaur-rus: most obvious solution -- have you tried a reboot? something went really wrong there03:10
chxof course it is possible to restart stuff03:10
chxbut may not worth the bothering03:10
josealguien que me pase el servidor en espaol03:10
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josealguien que hable espaol03:12
dinosaur-ruschx: well, I'll try...03:12
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|WAL|I'm having trouble getting smbmount, I get a dependancy issue, can anyone help?03:13
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Dr_willishmm..  sudo apt-get update and upgrade lately?03:14
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|WAL|Dr_willis: was that directed at me?03:15
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Dr_willis|WAL|,  yep..  it would be VERY odd that somthing that basic has a dependency issue03:15
Dr_willis!info smbmount03:15
ubotuPackage smbmount does not exist in any distro I know03:16
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Dr_willishmmm...03:16
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Dr_williswhat are you trying to install exactly?03:16
morghanphoenixWhat is the terminal options for a kmenu item if I need it to launch at 25x77 minimum?03:16
josealguien que hable espaol03:16
v3ctor!es03:16
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.03:16
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joseyeah03:17
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morghanphoenixI've looked at the terminal man pages but can't seem to find size settings in the options.03:17
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n5whooooooohooooooooooooooo :D03:18
Dr_willismorghanphoenix,  'terminla' ? or are you refering to Konsole ? or some other program03:18
n5changed language :D03:18
livingdaylightWoaH! Fresh install of KUBUNTU - first time ever - a Kubuntu-newborn you could say :)03:18
n5;p03:18
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Dr_williskonsole   --vt_sz CCxLL          ##   Terminal size in columns x lines03:18
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|WAL|Dr_willis: my problem is like this: I can get to remote samba shares with "Remote place" but I can't mount them to a point in my fs03:19
livingdaylightCan any of you folks tell me what exactly is the next step after a fresh kubuntu install. What would be the first thing you did to complete and polish off the installation?03:19
|WAL|Dr_willis: I don't have smbmount installed and I get an error when getting it03:19
Dr_willisThere is a 'Terminal' program as well.    Terminal --geometry=GEOMETRY      ##           X geometry specification (see "X man pages ")03:19
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livingdaylightI'm thinking adding repositories and multimedia codecs?03:19
morghanphoenixThanks03:20
Dr_willis|WAL|,  its smbmnt03:20
morghanphoenixAh, X03:20
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Dr_willisUsage: smbmnt mount-point [options] 03:20
livingdaylightCan someone help?03:20
Dr_willis|WAL|,  i tend to use smb4k to (let the users) browse/mount samba shares03:20
livingdaylighthmmmm....i expected a warmer welcome :(03:20
morghanphoenixGreat, now ADOM works.03:21
Dr_willis!repos03:21
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:21
Dr_willis!easysource03:21
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic03:21
v3ctor!w32codecs03:21
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:21
Dr_willis!faq03:21
ubotufaq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage03:21
Dr_willis:)03:21
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Dr_willisthat auto keep ya busy for a while livingdaylight03:21
livingdaylightDr_willis: is there a script like easyubuntu or automatix that works in kubuntu?03:22
v3ctorlol03:22
Dr_willislivingdaylight,  enable the other repos.. and start installing03:22
dinosaur-ruschx: uh, restarting of the X server seems to help :)03:22
livingdaylightDr_willis: you put alot on my plate there, lol03:22
Dr_willislivingdaylight,  Avoide Automatix as if it was the BLack Plague.03:22
morghanphoenixBoth of them work in kubuntu03:22
Dr_willislivingdaylight,  if you had learned how to isntall stuff manually under ubuntu..its the same under Kubuntu. :)03:22
Ouaaahhhhlivingdaylight : http://www.beginningubuntu.com/dapper_tips.htm03:22
livingdaylightblack plague?! ugh...03:22
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Dr_willisOuaaahhhh,  heh - dont think ive seen that one yet.03:22
livingdaylightthx, Ouaaahhhh03:22
v3ctori still haven't seen that one03:23
livingdaylightOuaaahhhh: didn't open. is it the right url?03:23
Dr_willisthat page is 404 . :) and om not about to buy another book.03:23
Ouaaahhhhor this one : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper03:23
Dr_willislol03:23
Dr_willisI got the "Ubuntu Hacks" book - its handy.03:23
v3ctoris it really good?03:24
livingdaylightOuaaahhhh: ah...better, thx...: )03:24
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v3ctori thought about picking it up03:24
Ouaaahhhhsorry lost the "l" in html :http://www.beginningubuntu.com/dapper_tips.html03:24
Dr_willisv3ctor,  its got some neat chapters on some handy things and tips i dident know about.03:24
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Dr_willisOuaaahhhh,  they got a rather dumb web server then. :)03:25
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livingdaylightOuaaahhhh: problem is that is good for Ubuntu, and i'm using Kubuntu here03:25
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Ouaaahhhhlivingdaylight : telle me what specifically in kde ur looking ?03:26
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Dr_willislivingdaylight,  90% of it still applies03:26
livingdaylightOuaaahhhh: to add all repositories including plf and to install multimedia codecs03:26
Dr_willisLearn the Fundamentals - the rest is trivial :)03:26
Dr_willis!easysource03:26
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic03:27
Dr_williscan do that.03:27
Ouaaahhhhcause a lot are in common betw. gnome and kde apps ( thnx god)03:27
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arejayteewhat can i use to make a image of a dvd ive got?03:27
Dr_willisarejaytee,  an image? as in a whole whatever.iso file?03:27
Ouaaahhhhmultimedia codecs it's there W32co... for divx03:27
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arejayteeyeah03:27
livingdaylightwhat is the fundamental difference between ubuntu and kubuntu? In ubuntu everything is sudo apt-get install in Kubuntu?03:27
BluesKajstill trying to find a reopository that contains "gnormalize"03:28
Ouaaahhhhsame toll under the hood03:28
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Ouaaahhhhsame tools under ...03:28
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BluesKajsame trolls as well :)03:28
PiRhello03:28
Ouaaahhhhhehe03:28
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ZeiP_Hi. I'm having an Ubuntu question (not specific to Kubuntu, using basic Ubuntu) but I don't seem to be able to speak on #Ubuntu... I'm trying to get freeradius installed, but something seems to be wrong: http://mureakuha.com/paste/?eb2e5414a7f097a5e5dff0459f68b1a903:28
livingdaylightin Ubuntu i do gedit /etc/apt/blah blah in Kubuntu i do ?03:29
PiRdoes an equivalence for "youtube movie downloader" exist please ?03:29
Dr_willispick some other editor03:29
Dr_willisPiR,  i found a firefox extension that lets me do that.03:29
Ouaaahhhhin kubuntu , u have kwrite /etc/apt/...03:29
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Ouaaahhhhor kate /etc/apt03:29
arejayteeyeah was going to say if using firefox there is and for alot of other sites aswell03:29
livingdaylightthx03:29
PiRDo you remember the name ? Dr_willis ?03:29
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arejayteeDr_willis: any ideas?03:29
livingdaylightand instead of sudo kubuntu uses?03:29
livingdaylightksudo?03:30
xwolf-kdesu03:30
BluesKajbrb03:30
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livingdaylightkdesu, ok, thx03:30
arejayteePiR: google download dailymotion and its the first link03:30
xwolf-sudo is more of a cli.03:30
OuaaahhhhI think it's kdesu not ksudo03:30
arejaytee"download dailymotion"03:30
livingdaylightwhy did they make it kdesu. Its more to remember than ksudo03:30
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PiRok but i want to download movies in youtube, thakns03:30
xwolf-livingdaylight "kde super user"03:31
livingdaylightksudo is more intuitive, anyway. i 'll remember tha tnow03:31
Ouaaahhhhlivingdaylight : agree03:31
livingdaylightxwolf-: i know what it is03:31
arejayteeyeah the same extension does youtube03:31
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xwolf-i like kdesu :P03:31
arejayteeit does most video sites03:31
xwolf-ksudo is ugly03:31
PiRok03:31
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PiRi've seen03:31
PiRthanks arejaytee03:31
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Ouaaahhhhwhat's fun with linux s that u can name thinks like u want I.E. change kdesu to ksudo03:31
ZeiP_Do my lines show up here either?03:32
livingdaylightxwolf-: i can get used to kdesu, but in the traditionof putting a 'k' in front of apps in kde k+sudo would be logical, or to be expected03:32
arejayteenp03:32
xwolf-you can write a program that does that.03:32
xwolf-:)03:32
n5thanks Ouaaahhhh did something what you told me, and deleted some packages, and english is active, thanks03:32
livingdaylightOuaaahhhh: yea, true....but first you have to know how to, and i'm a noob, secondly you have to have the time :)03:32
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Dr_willisZeiP_,  yes03:33
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sorush20anyone here know of a kubuntu 6.06 dapper sonik pakcage?03:33
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sorush20!sonik03:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sonik - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:33
ZeiP_Dr_willis: wonderful, so my problem is just too weird.03:33
Dr_willisZeiP_,  i dident even see you post a question yet.03:34
Ouaaahhhhlivingdaylight : ok  ur right learn at ur pace it's better otherwise u'll hate it03:34
livingdaylightDr_willis: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic do you tick packages and sources?03:35
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ZeiP_Dr_willis: oh, I did.03:35
ZeiP_Hi. I'm having an Ubuntu question (not specific to Kubuntu, using basic Ubuntu) but I don't seem to be able to speak on #Ubuntu... I'm trying to get freeradius installed, but something seems to be wrong: http://mureakuha.com/paste/?eb2e5414a7f097a5e5dff0459f68b1a903:35
livingdaylightOuaaahhhh: no, otherwise, i just wouldn't be able to anyways, hehe Do you know how to change kdesu to ksudo?03:36
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ZeiP_Dr_willis: saw it now? :)03:36
livingdaylightOuaaahhhh: i wish i was a geek :|03:36
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OuaaahhhhI know but as u said I prefer not to :-)03:37
Dr_willisZeiP_,  yep.. but  i know diddle abotu freeradius and i got to go to the store. :)03:37
Ouaaahhhhfor ur safety03:37
livingdaylighthttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic do you guys tick packages and 'sources' or just packages? What's the difference?03:37
ZeiP_Dr_willis: doesn't seem like a freeradius thing, more like "I can't use apt-get, help me!" :)03:37
KDEfanboylivingdaylight: ksudo?03:37
livingdaylightKDEfanboy: huh?03:38
KDEfanboylivingdaylight: what is ksudo?03:38
livingdaylightKDEfanboy: its kdesu03:38
Ouaaahhhhyep livingdaylight wnats to change the name of kdesu to ksudo03:38
KDEfanboyo03:38
OuaaahhhhI'm worry about teeling him how to do it03:38
livingdaylightI was just asking what the kubuntu version of 'sudo' in ubuntu is. I presumed it might be ksudo coz that would make sense03:39
livingdaylightOuaaahhhh: hahaha, its cool. Maybe another time03:39
Ouaaahhhhok03:39
divansantanakdesu03:39
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Torchedisn't it just...sudo?03:40
Ouaaahhhhu'll know someday03:40
livingdaylightbut i'm asking whether to tick packages and sources in http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic03:40
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livingdaylightOuaaahhhh: just tell me; is it hard or easy?03:40
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Ouaaahhhhnot hard at all03:41
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OuaaahhhhSonik : http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=34626&forummode=2&forumpage=0&forumexplevel=003:42
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Ouaaahhhhdownload ubuntu package . install "sudo dpkg -i sonik...deb"03:43
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PiRHow can i read a .flv movie in Kubuntu ? how can i convert this file in other supported format ?03:44
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livingdaylighthttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic does Cipherphunk apply to kubuntu as well as Ubuntu. Its not specified03:44
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shriphaniguys where do i put w32 codecs ?03:46
OuaaahhhhCipherphunk ?03:46
shriphanilike i got wmvdmod.dll and i have no idea where to put it in order to play stuff in kaffeine03:46
livingdaylightOuaaahhhh: yea, its in between ubuntu and kubuntu on http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic where i'm putting together my repos list03:47
narasimhanshriphani:  /usr/lib/win3203:47
shriphaninarasimhan: i dont see it there03:47
shriphaniis it hidden ?03:47
Ouaaahhhhshriphani :install w32codecs by adept03:47
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narasimhanshriphani: no u can create the directory if u want03:47
livingdaylightnarasimhan: let adept worry about it and where to put it03:48
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narasimhanshriphani: or do it from adept..03:48
shriphaninarasimhan: and then it should work right03:48
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livingdaylightOuaaahhhh: do  you see Cipherphunk on http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic ? half way down betweeen ubuntu and kubuntu, so i don't know whether it belongs to boeth or not03:48
narasimhanlivingdaylight: thats true..but xine says this..and progs like kaffeine search there..03:48
shriphaniumm i am short of patience here cuz mah parents want to see a vid on this box03:48
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livingdaylightdinosaur-rus: the more i use Kubuntu the more awed i become03:49
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narasimhanshriphani: u can put it in /usr/lib/win32 it wont hurt03:49
shriphaniso narasimhan i am creating the dir03:49
narasimhanshriphani: ok..03:49
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Ouaaahhhhshriphani : easy install " w32codecs" by adept, nothing to do03:49
Ouaaahhhh shriphan see this http://www.beginningubuntu.com/dapper_tips.html03:50
TheGateKeepershriphani:03:50
TheGateKeeperwget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb03:50
TheGateKeepersudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb03:50
shriphaniwell TheGateKeeper i already got them codecs03:50
shriphaninarasimhan: dir made03:50
shriphaninow its just copying right ?03:51
narasimhanshriphani: if u have got it from mplayer site .. then this is the way to do.../usr/lib/win32 ..copy the dlls there03:51
narasimhanshriphani: thats all03:51
|WAL|Dr_willis: sorry for the delay03:51
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|WAL|Dr_willis: I don't have smbmnt03:51
|WAL|can I pastbin you the output of trying to get it?03:52
livingdaylightOuaaahhhh: i've compiled my repos list. Can you tell me where i copy it to? kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list?03:52
shriphaniok copied03:52
narasimhanshriphani: u have kaffeine right?03:52
shriphaniyes narasimhan03:52
narasimhanshriphani: i think it shld work03:52
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arejayteewhats the easiet way to make a backup of this dvd ive got in kubuntu?03:53
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narasimhanshriphani: are u trying now?03:53
shriphanididnt work03:53
gemidjy[17271731.112000]  VFS: busy inodes on changed media.03:54
Ouaaahhhh your repos list should be in /etc/apt/source.list then do a "kdesu apt-get update"03:54
narasimhanshriphani: u put the dlls right?03:54
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shriphaninarasimhan: yes03:54
livingdaylightOuaaahhhh: so, kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list ?03:54
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narasimhanthats how it works..anyway..w32codecs it seems shld do it...03:55
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shriphanior should i get the codecs with adept03:55
gemidjyI start k3b, put in a CD a press burn, it won't burn, and then the /dev/'s are changed, /dev/cdrom points to /dev/hdc which actually is /dev/dvd (before I started k3b they were /dev/dvd->/dev/hdc and /dev/cdrom->/dev/hdd), and in dmesg (/var/log/messages) I constantly get that error03:55
gemidjy[17271731.112000]  VFS: busy inodes on changed media.03:55
narasimhanshriphani: ok try that too..03:55
shriphanicuz the one i downloaded came from dll.com03:55
gemidjynamaste narasimhan03:55
narasimhangemidjy: namaste..03:55
gemidjyhiranyakashipu vakshaha :)03:56
livingdaylightOuaaahhhh: and do i replace or add the repos list i've come up with?03:56
narasimhangemidjy: ah..03:56
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narasimhangemidjy: :)03:56
gemidjy:)03:56
livingdaylightOuaaahhhh: through -sourcematic03:56
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Ouaaahhhhgemidjy : is the CD containing mp303:56
Ouaaahhhh?03:57
gemidjyOuaaahhhh: ney, it is Blank CD, it happens with every blank CD i put in03:57
ronnieok bye...03:57
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Ouaaahhhhlivingdaylight : in the terminal : type " sudo kwrite /etc/apt/source.list" then add ouy list of repos at the end , then save it. you still need to update by typing " sudo apt-get update"03:58
livingdaylightOuaaahhhh: you mean kdesu?03:58
Ouaaahhhhgemidjy look at /etc/fstab03:59
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Ouaaahhhhsudo = kdesu03:59
Ouaaahhhhhehe03:59
livingdaylightOuaaahhhh: ? you wrote sudo? you mean kdesu?03:59
gemidjyOuaaahhhh03:59
gemidjy/dev/hdd /media/cdrom0 auto user,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 003:59
gemidjy/dev/hdc /media/dvd0 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 003:59
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|WAL|I have a problem getting smbfs please help... http://pastebin.ulteo.us/15804:00
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Ouaaahhhh<gemidjy> : /dev/hdd /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 004:01
Ouaaahhhhshould be that no ?04:01
livingdaylightOuaaahhhh: so you can use sudo in kubuntu too?04:02
Ouaaahhhhwhere is the iso9660 for Cdrom04:02
Ouaaahhhhlivingdaylight yes u can use sudo. kubuntu is the same plateforme as gnome except kdm04:03
Ouaaahhhhand kubunt desktop04:03
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Ouaaahhhhsame motor04:03
livingdaylightOuaaahhhh: lol, all that talk of kdesu and ksudo. If i can use sudo i'll carry on with that. I thought it was something else in kubuntu. I was wrong04:03
gemidjyOuaaahhhh: brb, let me try04:04
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Ouaaahhhhlivingdaylight : lol04:04
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ricaneliteWho here has IE6 installed Under Ubuntu Linux?04:05
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dinosaur-rusricanelite: it's Linux, not WIndows04:05
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Ouaaahhhhyou can install IE on ubuntu04:06
Ouaaahhhhbut it suks04:06
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ricaneliteYeah, I know I did it using Wine, but when the install went through and I restarted my machine I cannot find it to open it up04:07
dinosaur-rusQuaaahhhh: I guess you'll need wine to install and run IE...04:07
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Ouaaahhhhsee :http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_install_Internet_Explorer_.2B_Flash_904:07
dinosaur-rusricanelite: try to re-install wine at first, then the IE04:07
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Ouaaahhhhseems u don't need wine for this version04:08
ricaneliteI have installed Wine already04:08
ricanelitethats works fine and then I decided to put in IE6 and the install went perfect but I just dont know where to go to open up IE04:08
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dinosaur-rusricanelite: may be "wine "c:/Program Files/Internet Explorer/iexplore.exe""?04:10
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|WAL|I have a problem getting smbfs please help... http://pastebin.ulteo.us/15804:10
ricaneliteumm04:10
ricanelitelet me check that out04:10
dinosaur-rusricanelite: of course without the outer quotes :P04:11
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ricanelitehaha, I typed in under run command wine iexplorer.exe and it opens up and nothing happens04:11
ricaneliteoh boy!!04:11
gemidjyOuaaahhhh: u were right, fstab got s*rewed, don't know how since I never have opened it :S04:12
dinosaur-rusricanelite: what do you mean by saying "it opens up and nothing happens"?04:12
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ricanelitethe Wine desktop opens and then the smaller windows inside the Wine Desktop windows is just white04:13
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ricaneliteIt also installed the Geko update I guess for the HTML Coding04:13
ricanelitebut then after that was done installing nothing else happens04:14
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ricanelitethink I need to restart my computer?04:14
dinosaur-rusricanelite: try to specify the full path (I gave you)04:14
ricaneliteHow i do that?04:14
ricaneliteI'm a Linux Newbie, so I get confuse very easy04:14
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Ouaaahhhhgemidjy : good. strange that the partition was changed spontaneously04:15
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ricaneliteLike for example right now I'm looking at a Wine Desktop Windows and then inside that window it is Wine Internet Explorer and that windows is in White.04:15
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livingdaylightOuaaahhhh: #6 of the ubuntu guide says: sudo or gksudo means superuser do. sudo will prompt for "Password:". Please specify your user password.04:16
dinosaur-rusricanelite: in Konsole type wine "c:/Program Files/Internet Explorer/iexplore.exe"04:16
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Ouaaahhhhyep type ur password04:16
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livingdaylightOuaaahhhh: nothing about gkdesu04:17
Ouaaahhhhno lol04:17
livingdaylightsudo or gksudo04:17
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ricaneliteit says cannot fine c:/Program04:17
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Ouaaahhhhricanelite : it's bacause it doesn't like space between words04:18
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Ouaaahhhhor because it's \ not  /04:18
Ouaaahhhhlike in ms04:19
dinosaur-rusricanelite: use quotes for the path04:19
arejayteegod damn it wont read this dvd disc04:19
|WAL|I have a problem getting smbfs please help... http://pastebin.ulteo.us/15804:19
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ricaneliteso i will type it like this wine "c:/Program Files/Internet Explorer/iexplore.exe04:19
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ricaneliteit says "wine: cannot find 'c:/Program Files/Internet Explorer/iexplore.exe'04:21
KDEfanboylivingdaylight: better to use kubuntu guide, not ubuntu guide http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html04:21
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livingdaylightKDEfanboy: thx, man. I was being led astray by Ouaaahhhh...hehe :)04:22
Ouaaahhhhhaha04:23
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dinosaur-rusricanelite: then do ls "~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files"04:23
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Ouaaahhhh|WAL| : you need this version of samba-common : 3.0.22-1ubuntu304:24
Ouaaahhhhnot the 3.0.22-1ubuntu1 you are installing04:24
ricaneliteNo Such File or Directory04:25
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|WAL|Ouaaahhhh: how do I downgrade?04:25
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ricaneliteNow that is weird because I know for sure it installed IE6 because when I tried to run ie6setup.exe again it said it has been already installed04:25
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livingdaylightKDEfanboy: thx, again, really nice and well put-together guide - enjoying it very much...04:26
KDEfanboylivingdaylight: np. found it easily by going to the website, then clicking 'Documentation'04:26
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truiu|WAL|: try to remove samba-common and install smbfs. samba-common - hopefully the right version - should be reinstalled automaticly04:27
livingdaylightKDEfanboy: lol, haven't been there yet04:27
LimonJalisciensei cant installl my hp computer on my ubuntu sys04:28
|WAL|truiu: I'll try that04:28
Ouaaahhhh|WAL| : in adept , look for samba-common if you find 3.0.22-1ubuntu3, install it if not you should look at the repository list in adept to see if you didn't activate a  source or didn't get universe package source04:29
LimonJaliscienseepaol04:29
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LimonJaliscienseespaol04:29
arkadykde 3.5.5 available in kubuntu repository :)04:29
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OuaaahhhhKDEfanboy : thx04:30
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Ouaaahhhhthis guide is great04:30
|WAL|Ouaaahhhh: truiu's suggestion seems to work04:30
|WAL|truiu: I think that's gonna do it04:30
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Ouaaahhhh|WAL| : good04:31
truiu|WAL|: good04:31
Ouaaahhhhkde 3.5.5 is here04:31
Ouaaahhhhhummm04:32
Ouaaahhhhdidn't find under kubuntu.com04:32
arkadyOuaaahhhh: http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355/04:33
|WAL|Ouaaahhhh: thanks for the help, bye04:33
|WAL|truiu: thanks for the help04:33
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Ouaaahhhhbye04:34
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Ouaaahhhharkady : thx04:34
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ricaneliteHey Dinosaur!04:35
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arkadyOuaaahhhh: np :) there's not an official announce yet and kde-latest doesn't point to the new dir, but you can upgrade right now04:36
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dinosaur-rusricanelite: eh?04:38
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ricaneliteYeah, I tried the command you told me and nothing happen04:39
ricaneliteSo when I tried to run IE6setup.exe it said there is already a newer version in this System and Setup cannot continue04:39
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danimoheya!04:40
dinosaur-rusricanelite: then in filemanager move to ~/.wine and look the correct path from there04:40
dinosaur-rusdanimo: hi04:40
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ricaneliteHow do I get to the File Manager?04:40
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dinosaur-rusricanelite: Konqueror can act as a filemanager04:43
ricaneliteOkay I'm in ~/.wine04:43
ricaneliteNow what I do next04:43
dinosaur-rusricanelite: what dirs a there?04:43
dinosaur-rus*are04:43
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ricaneliteCommon Files, Internet Explorer, Outlook Express, Wine_gecko04:43
ricanelitewhen I click on Internet Explorer I see ie6setup.exe and I open it up with "Wine" and it starts the install and then says a Newer Version was dectected on the system and Setup cannot proceed.04:44
scott_w|lappywhy on earth do you want to use IE on linux?04:45
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ricanelitewell I'm trying to get a Java Application for work and I have a feeling it is intergrated with IE04:45
dinosaur-rusricanelite: oh, you have these directly under ~/.wine ??? O_O oohhh04:45
ricaneliteI guess04:46
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ricanelitelol04:46
ricaneliteI'm sorry I could'nt be specfic04:46
ricaneliteIs that bad?04:46
ricaneliteDid I do something wrong?04:47
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scott_w|lappywell, god just killed a kitten...04:47
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ricanelitedinosaur-rus you there?04:49
dinosaur-rusricanelite: have you configured Wine's devices?04:49
ricanelitedo I have to allow Directx?04:50
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ricaneliteI have opened winecfg so tell me what I need to do04:51
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dinosaur-rusricanelite: look "Drives" tab (don't remember exactly)04:52
ricaneliteOkay, do I select "Auto Detect"04:52
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dennistergood morning04:53
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dinosaur-rusricanelite: do you have "c:" drive there?04:53
ricaneliteYeah it is there04:54
dinosaur-rusdennister: hi, but it's evening here :)04:54
ricanelite../drive_c04:54
ricanelitethat is the labe;04:54
ricanelitelabel*04:54
dinosaur-rusricanelite: so it's in you home directory???04:55
ricaneliteWhat is IE?04:55
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dennisterunrar question: directions for usage is to use unrar e "part01.rar", but the command didn't work with the only rar file amongst the group04:56
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ricaneliteThis is how it is setup Drive Mappings and it is label ../drive_c04:56
dennisterthe command "unrar e *.r00" didn't work either04:57
dennisterhow do i use unrar?04:57
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dennisterricanelite: IE is internet explorer, from microshaft04:58
ricaneliteYeah04:58
ricaneliteI know!04:58
dinosaur-rusricanelite: uh, try #winehq channel :))04:58
ricaneliteOkay04:58
felixjetVMWare emulate full directx ?04:58
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ricaneliteI will, LOL04:58
ricaneliteNow I have one more question04:58
felixjetVMWare emulate full directx ?04:58
ricaneliteFor my job we use a Application that is .jnlp file which we all know is a Java File04:59
ricaneliteNow I have installed this, but when I try to Run it the application loads but does not fully open04:59
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dennisterhi Porkotron05:00
truiuricanelite: this file is for starting via JavaWebStart05:00
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ricaneliteYeah it opens up and starts to load but then the turns off no error message or nothing05:00
ricanelitejust disappears05:00
dennisterricanelite: have u got java webstart installed?05:01
truiuricanelite: check if you use the sun JRE in webstart05:01
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ricaneliteIt opens and says Starting Application and then it goes away05:02
ricaneliteYes It is open with Sun JRE Webstart05:02
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truiuStrange. I had prolems like this when i was using another JRE for runing webstart-apps. I just had to switch to the sun jre in the settings menu of javaws05:04
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dennisterricanelite: i found that rebooting brought javaws to light...like magic :-)05:06
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ricaneliteStill nothing Happens05:07
dennisteri can't remember if i did something else first tho, sorry05:07
truiudo you have all other jres deactivated?05:07
ricaneliteHow can I check that?05:07
dennistercan anyone help with unrar usage?05:07
Goop2C cboyann.e cyw nrii.e rgyw nrii.e cbw abe cy oycnn eceby ,rpt05:08
truiustart javaws; go to the settings menu, go to "java", look for the checkboxes behind the jre names05:08
ricaneliteLike when I open the Java Application Cache Viewer I see the Application I'm trying to open and has like a plug Icon Status05:08
Hawkwinddennister: What exactly do you need ?05:08
Goop2*I installed it, logged out, logged in, and it still didnt work05:08
Hawkwinddennister: If you're trying to unrar stuff you downloaded, unrar e file1.rar  for example05:09
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dennisterah..Hawkwind! downloaded unrar, found the usage string command. but it's not working05:09
ricanelitewait, How do I check that again05:09
dennisteri'm in the right directory, tried "unrar e *rar"05:09
dennisterand "unrar e *roo"05:10
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HawkwindYou can't do that05:10
Hawkwinddennister: Paste me one of the file names please05:10
dennisterhere?05:10
dennisterprivately?05:10
Hawkwinddennister: You can do it in PM if you want05:10
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truiuricanelite: I dont realy now what the Java Application Cache Viewer is - i use the german verison. but i am speaking of the main window of java web start. there in the file menu are the settings05:11
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Goop2does anyone know how to make the penguin button open the kmenu? or is it possible?05:12
ricaneliteI have one that I do not know about it is %featureName and the "Vendor" %providerName05:12
ricaneliteIs that Important?05:12
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Goop2anybody? nobody?05:14
fulat2khi folks, need some help to configure my wifi connection on kubuntu. i've tried both dhcp and static.  both don't work.  static settings can at least get it connected.  but if i ping my router, it says destination host unreachable.05:14
fulat2kany pointers?05:14
livingdaylightdoes that happen: Adept freezing? how long should i wait?05:14
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bubblenutHi what's the name of the package which allows me to manage applications I've compiled from source via apt05:17
truiuricanelite: in my case setting the sun jre 1.5 as default and deactivating all the others solved my poblems. there was also blackdown(?) and sun jre 1.4 in the list05:17
cyberhell86hey! does somebody know how i can make a dial-up connection with ubuntu.... but i mean I want to use my cellphone.... :S05:17
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buzfulat2k: do you use encryption?05:17
KDEfanboybubblenut: checkinstall makes debs05:17
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bubblenutAwesome, thanks KDEfanboy05:18
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livingdaylightKUBUNTU ROCKS!05:18
Goop2KDE05:18
livingdaylighteven if Adept just crashed - KUBUNTU ROCKS!05:18
fulat2kbuz: just WEP.  got that set.05:18
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Goop2KDE pwnz05:19
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fulat2kbuz: i'm using static rite now coz somehow DHCP can't get the broadcast from the dhcp server.05:19
buzthats probably an encryption issue05:19
buzor can you access the net with static?05:20
buz!NetworkManager05:20
ubotunetworkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager05:20
buzyou might want to try that05:20
buzworks for me05:20
buzeven with WPA05:20
dennisterk...finally gonna watch a movie while i cook turkey...bye for now folks05:21
ricaneliteI tried to restart the machine and still it does not open :(05:21
fulat2ki can see that it's connected using static.  just can't ping the gateway i.e. the router.  is there something to do with routing? i have a wifi card as well as a eth0.05:21
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Goop2anybody know how to make the penguin button open the kmenu?05:23
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cyberhell86can somebody tell me where i can download a software to play dvd, divx and mp3 on ubuntu?? :S05:24
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truiuricanelite: hmm, you can enable logging in javaws. maybe the logs help to find the problem. see here: http://athena.bioc.uvic.ca/techDoc/jws/jwstips05:25
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livingdaylighti hope i haven't killed Adept?05:26
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livingdaylightit won't come up for me :s05:26
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ricaneliteHow do you run a Script?05:26
livingdaylightanyone know about Adept crashing and/or breaking?05:26
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buz!RestrictedFormats05:27
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:27
livingdaylighti tried to install flsh-nonfree, it froze i shut it down, and now it wont come up again - help!05:27
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Ouaaahhhhricanelite : first , make it executable : chmod 755 your-script05:27
Ouaaahhhhthen launch ./your-script05:27
livingdaylightanyone know anything about my problem with Adept i've posted?05:28
livingdaylightOuaaahhhh: 'cmmon, help me out here, please05:28
Ouaaahhhhadept freeze ?05:28
livingdaylightOuaaahhhh: yea!05:28
Goop2what exactly is a 'nonfree' format?05:28
livingdaylightGoop2: non-GPL05:28
buzactually no05:29
Ouaaahhhhnonfree = commercical05:29
buzanything that has limitations on it05:29
livingdaylightGoop2: one that is not freesoftware05:29
buzi.e. your not free to build it yourself05:29
livingdaylightOuaaahhhh: tell me, whats up with Adept?05:29
Goop2oh05:29
Goop2I get it now :)05:29
ricaneliteI do all of this in the terminal?05:29
buzlivingdaylight: thats not correct; there are numerous free GPL implemenations, but MP3 still isnt a free format05:29
livingdaylightthere is freesoftware and there is non-freesoftware05:29
Ouaaahhhhlivingdaylight type "top " in konsole , see if adept running = taking cpu05:29
arkadylivingdaylight: konsole -> then type "sudo dpkg --configure -a", then restart adept05:30
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buz"A Free or open format is one which can be used by anyone, free of legal restrictions on how they use the forma"05:30
livingdaylightarkady: that command does what, may i ask?05:31
Ouaaahhhhricanelite : locate your script , go to this directory, then type "chmod 755 your-script"05:31
livingdaylightOuaaahhhh: thx, adept doesn't appear to be running05:31
livingdaylightOuaaahhhh: would it be listed by name?05:32
Ouaaahhhhthen type  ./your-script05:32
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Ouaaahhhhlivingdaylight : kill the window :  ctrl-alt-esc , then with the mouse your click on the window to kill it05:33
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Ouaaahhhhdo what arkady says05:33
Ouaaahhhhafter that05:33
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shriphaniguys i got wmvdmod.dll in the folder but kaffeine says its got problems05:33
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livingdaylightarkady: is Adept that sensitive? what did i do?05:34
shriphaniand i cant connect to cipherfunk.org05:34
shriphaniapt-get update stops there05:34
Goop2well it is morning.. my hair is greasy and uncomfortable.. and Im hungry05:34
livingdaylightOuaaahhhh: i had no problem shutting Adept down. I had already done so05:34
Goop2ttyl peeps05:34
livingdaylightshould i reboot?05:34
Ouaaahhhhno need to rebbot05:34
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arkadylivingdaylight: when you install flash nonfree a dialog apper for accepting the licence, adept cannot display it properly and it hangs, leaving the package not configured05:35
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Ouaaahhhhtype "ps ax | grep adept" see the output05:35
fdoving!adept crash fix05:35
ubotuIf adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'05:35
fdovinguse that ^^05:35
livingdaylightarkady: aha! thats good to know. So, what is the solution?05:36
livingdaylightarkady: via konsole?05:36
shriphaniguys what do i do ?05:36
arkadylivingdaylight: what i said above, yes05:36
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arkadylivingdaylight: in that way you configure all the packages that remain not configured properly05:37
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shriphani!w3205:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about w32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:37
shriphani!w32codecs05:37
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:37
livingdaylightarkady: not sure what to do now. sudo apt-get install flash-nonfree?>05:37
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atroWorkI'm trying to get synergy started at the KDE login screen, can anybody tell me how I start a program before login (such as gnome's /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default file)05:38
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Ouaaahhhhlivingdaylight: sudo dpkg --configure -a05:38
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livingdaylightOuaaahhhh: i've done that. Did that reconfigure Adept?05:39
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Ouaaahhhhit reconfigure your package list from source.list05:40
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livingdaylightwell Adept is still not coming up05:41
livingdaylightgreat Adept is dead05:42
Ouaaahhhhthen "sudo apt-get install flash-....." to install it, you need to accept the licence term to install this package05:42
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|WAL|anyone know much about iPod's and amarok?05:42
livingdaylightOuaaahhhh: but i need Adept, besides i tried by command line and it didn't work either05:42
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Ouaaahhhhwhy did it work ?05:43
livingdaylightwhy did what work?05:43
Ouaaahhhh why didn't it work ?05:43
slow-motionhallo05:43
felixjetwhy did not what work?05:44
felixjetXD05:44
Ouaaahhhhthx05:44
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Ouaaahhhhhaha05:44
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=== livingdaylight has broken Kubuntu in the space of 2 hours, just by trying to install Flash
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Ouaaahhhhgood job05:45
livingdaylightshould have just used easyubuntu05:45
livingdaylightwell, now what?05:46
livingdaylightthe magical sudo dpkg --configure -a command hasn't brought the Adept rabbit out of the hat05:46
livingdaylightGuys, don't make me crawl back to SuSE!05:46
Ouaaahhhhhaha05:47
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livingdaylightwhat do i do? :s05:47
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fdovinglivingdaylight: did you try 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;dpkg --configure -a' from konsole?05:47
livingdaylightfdoving: no ,not that one05:48
CelloGis there someone who can help me debug the install of my ATI graphics card driver for kubuntu?05:48
fdovinglivingdaylight: go for it :)05:48
BlackenCelloG: Probably, what flavor?05:48
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livingdaylightthat's a hell of a command ....heheh...05:48
fdovinglivingdaylight: it's actually two in a row, separated by semicolon.05:48
CelloGX1300 LE (RV515 7146)05:48
BlackenCelloG: Heh, same card as me...05:48
CelloG:) that should make this easy05:49
CelloGI'm running in 64-bit, btw05:49
BlackenCelloG: Not sure how that'll affect an install.05:49
CelloGI found the binary howto, ran the instructions, and on reboot, got a black screen, so I'm using the livecd right now05:49
livingdaylightnope05:49
BlackenCelloG: Which binary?05:49
BlackenCelloG: Download-from-ATI, or from the repositories?05:50
livingdaylightfdoving: that's not bringing it back to life either. What have i done?!05:50
CelloGI've got the drive mounted and can look at the Xorg.0.log/xorg.conf05:50
CelloGfrom repositories, should I use the ATI one?05:50
fdovinglivingdaylight: can't you start it?05:50
BlackenCelloG: The repository one NEVER worked for me.05:50
CelloGok figures05:50
Ouaaahhhhlivingdaylight : type  find / -name *flash*05:50
livingdaylightfdoving: no, i get as far as giving the password but Adept just doesn't come up05:50
BlackenCelloG: Copy your old backup xorg.conf over the current one, that'll let you get back up and running.05:50
CelloGBlacken: so did you just run the thing from the Linux Driver FAQ at ATI?05:50
BlackenCelloG: Nope.05:51
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BlackenCelloG: Gimme a sec.05:51
CelloGyeah I've done that once already, so I'm familiar with the method :)05:51
fdovinglivingdaylight: can you run 'kdesu adept' from konsole? does it give any errors?05:51
kubuntu_testerhello folks05:51
Ouaaahhhhhi05:51
fdovinghi kubuntu_tester.05:51
kubuntu_testerI have installed scribus from repositories but can't write on a document05:51
kubuntu_testerwhy?05:52
CelloGBlacken: should I reboot with the original vesa and come back online from the HD install now?05:52
livingdaylightX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16605:52
livingdaylight  Major opcode:  14405:52
kubuntu_testeronly numbers work05:52
livingdaylight  Minor opcode:  305:52
livingdaylight  Resource id:  0x005:52
fdovinglivingdaylight: that's normal, and please use 'pastebin.05:52
livingdaylightFailed to open device05:52
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livingdaylightX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16605:52
livingdaylight  Major opcode:  14405:52
livingdaylight  Minor opcode:  305:52
Blackenlivingdaylight: Pastebin.05:52
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BlackenCelloG: That can't hurt.05:52
Blacken+1 fdoving05:52
kubuntu_testeranyone can help me?05:53
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kubuntu_testerit's really strange05:53
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CelloGok brb05:53
Blackenkubuntu_tester: Sounds like a software problem. Why not check a Scribus channel?05:53
livingdaylightthx, fdoving, won't happen again05:53
fdovinglivingdaylight: sorry i had to remove you, pasting error messages into the  channel like that isn't very nice.05:53
kubuntu_testerhmmm, ok Blacken05:53
fdoving!pastebin > livingdaylight05:53
Blackenkubuntu_tester: #scribus perhaps?05:53
kubuntu_testerI come here coz ubuntu team created the package05:54
fdovinglivingdaylight: did you get the message from ubotu?05:54
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Blackenkubuntu_tester: Understandable, but they didn't create the software and I doubt many people here use Scribus.05:54
livingdaylightfdoving:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26320/05:54
kubuntu_testerundestandable, what?05:55
livingdaylightfdoving: yea, like i said sorry about flooding05:55
kubuntu_testermy phrase?05:55
|WAL|anyone know much about iPod's and amarok?05:55
livingdaylightfdoving: now, do you know what i have to do to restore Adept and my system's integrity?05:55
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fdovinglivingdaylight: you can run adept from konsole with 'sudo adept' i guess. it's a problem with 'kdesu' i think. did you get the chance to enter you password before with the other command? (kdesu adept)05:57
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CelloGBlacken: ok back and running from HD05:58
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BlackenCelloG: Do you have universe repos open?05:59
kubuntu_testerBlacken: ???05:59
CelloGthink so, how can I verify? /etc/apt/thingy?06:00
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BlackenCelloG: You'll know quickly if you don't. Input this: sudo apt-get install fakeroot gcc-3.4 module-assistant build-essential debhelper06:00
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CelloGBlacken: it asks me to install, so I must have enabled it06:01
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BlackenCelloG: Yup. You need fakeroot for the "other way".06:02
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CelloGBlacken: ok done06:03
kubuntu_testerBlacken: try to speak another language than english...then we will see06:03
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kubuntu_testerpfff!06:03
livingdaylightfdoving: hey, i missed that last message o yours. I thought, what the heck, and rebooted. Seems Adept has come back!06:03
Blackenkubuntu_tester: You are making no sense whatsoever.06:03
kubuntu_testerbla bla bla06:04
BlackenCelloG: Alright, hold on one sec while I find the file.06:04
kubuntu_testerfuck you!06:04
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BlackenMods, LART him--aw, too slow.06:04
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fdovinglivingdaylight: ok, glad you got it working :)06:04
HawkwindThat was just lovely06:04
Blackencellog: wget www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8.29.6.run06:04
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CelloGI'm guessing I run it after it's downloaded06:05
BlackenCelloG: Not quite.06:06
livingdaylightfdoving: but the tip is don't install flash or anything that requires permission coz the dialog box becomes hidden ?06:06
gnomefreakCelloG: that command will download it06:06
Blackenlivingdaylight: Doing it in a term should let you view it.06:06
fdovinglivingdaylight: yes, not sure if you can input anything if you click 'show details' in the adept install dialog.06:06
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Blackenfdoving: Not sure about Adept (POS), but Synaptic lets you.06:07
livingdaylightBlacken: yea, ok, i wish i'd a know, pheweee06:07
BlackenCelloG: Once it's downloaded, open a konsole and type: fakeroot sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.29.6.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper06:07
CelloGgnomefreak: I know, I was asking about running the file once it's downloaded06:07
gnomefreakoh06:07
Blackenlivingdaylight: Adept is pain incarnate. Synaptic is at least sane.06:07
livingdaylightI want to say Synaptic is a much better frontend to APT than Adept (in my opinion)06:07
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CelloGthanks though :)06:07
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livingdaylightBlacken: lol, you took the words right out of my mouth06:08
BlackenCelloG: Fair warning...this is how I did it on a 32-bit card. It may not work, but I have an idea for if it doesn't.06:08
Blackener, 32-bit system06:08
=== livingdaylight likes how you can view and enable /disable ones repos in Adept - but that is it
CelloGBlacken: I read about this on ATI site, it supports 64 bit06:08
CelloGok the packages are generated06:08
Blackenlivingdaylight: That's what nano's for. =)06:09
CelloGinstall them?06:09
BlackenCelloG: sudo dpkg -i *.deb06:09
CelloGBlacken: done06:09
BlackenCelloG: Then afterwards, "sudo module-assistant prepare,update" and then "sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel"06:09
BlackenCelloG: Then sudo depmod06:09
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CelloGdepmod or depmod -a?06:10
BlackenCelloG: no need for -a06:10
livingdaylightthere's quite a list of Jre 1.4's :s06:11
CelloGBlacken: ok done06:11
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=== arkady thinks taht Adept is more versatile that Synaptic (specially about tags) but the interface is a bit ugly
CelloGBlacken: thanks so much, this is great, I am looking forward to having this work :)06:11
Blackenarkady: It's more versatile, but it's a kludge and hard to use.06:11
BlackenCelloG: No problem...you should have a built kernel now. If you reboot, it should default to that kernel.06:11
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_Shade_hi there06:11
arkadyBlacken: yeah, it needs some love ;)06:11
BlackenCelloG: Then just go "glxinfo | grep direct"06:11
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gnomefreaklivingdaylight: sun-java5-plugin  will get you -jre -bin and -plugin06:12
CelloGk brb06:12
BlackenCelloG: If it says "Direct Rendering: yes", you're good.06:12
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BlackenCelloG: If not, time for fun and games.06:12
_Shade_will be kde3.5.5 included in edgy by default?06:12
gnomefreaklivingdaylight: unless you need jdk06:12
livingdaylightgnomefreak: i don't see that on the list06:12
gnomefreak_Shade_: yes mostly done06:12
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trappist_Shade_: last I heard, that hasn't been decided yet06:12
gnomefreaklivingdaylight: enable multiverse rpeo06:12
gnomefreakrepo06:12
gnomefreaktrappist: its almost done uploading06:12
livingdaylightgnomefreak: hey, what you doing in kde land anyways :D06:12
gnomefreakit was decided lastnight06:13
trappistgnomefreak: awesome!06:13
gnomefreaklivingdaylight: i use kde06:13
_Shade_yeah i have seen it on kubuntu.com06:13
|WAL|anyone know much about iPod's and amarok?06:13
BlackenI'm confused...why would Ubuntu magically decide to install a 2.4-series kernel alongside my 2.6 one?06:13
gnomefreak|WAL|: what about it?06:13
livingdaylightgnomefreak: lol, i always assumed you used Gnole06:13
livingdaylight*Gnome06:13
JohnFlux_Blacken: just incase? :)06:13
gnomefreaklivingdaylight: i use 6or more DE's06:13
_Shade_hey guys do you know where can i get some latest kubuntu related news since kubuntu.com doesn't offer too much06:14
livingdaylightgnomefreak: okay :)06:14
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trappist_Shade_: you could subscribe to the kubuntu-devel mailing list06:14
gnomefreak_Shade_: kubuntu.org or you can use a rss feed06:14
gnomefreakor that list ;)06:14
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livingdaylightgnomefreak: desktopfreak?06:14
BlackenJohnFlux_: Perhaps...I just noticed that after I finished beating the ATI driver package into my kernel, it spawned a 2.4 SMP kernel alongside a 2.6 i386 kernel (I need to update that to a 686 SMP, as I have a Core Duo, but I don't want to have to bludgeon my way through the graphics process again).06:14
CelloGBlacken: what waas the glxinfo command again?06:14
gnomefreaklivingdaylight: i choose to test for ubuntu so i test i test everything :)06:14
BlackenCelloG: glxinfo | grep direct06:14
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CelloGBlacken: Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual06:15
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gnomefreakglxinfo should output if you have direct rendering06:15
livingdaylightgnomefreak: Cool!06:15
gnomefreakand alot more info06:15
BlackenCelloG: Erp. You've just gone past where I know...that *should* have worked.06:15
|WAL|gnomefreak: my ipod is detected and I can see it as a device in amarok, but if I try to add songs to the playlist, none of them will actually play06:15
gnomefreakBlacken: install fluxbox than06:15
Blackengnomefreak: I have. :P06:15
CelloGk06:16
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Blackengnomefreak: I use KDE more regularly these days because it's purty. And I don't know nor want to really learn how to make Fluxbox as purty as DSL does.06:16
_Shade_gnomefreak could you please paste the rss' url?06:16
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gnomefreakBlacken: soon we hope you wont have to :)06:16
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gnomefreak_Shade_: hold on06:16
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Blackengnomefreak: So do I...an autoconfiguration doohickey is seriously needed.06:17
gnomefreakBlacken: we might be getting a fluxbox-meta package06:17
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Blackengnomefreak: Oh?06:17
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gnomefreak_Shade_: http://www.kde.org/dotkdeorg.rdf06:18
asranielhi, anybody knows why kopete 0.12.3 is not in the new repository for kde 3.5.5? because its listed in the updates on the official kde homepage06:18
_Shade_there is a possibility to download kubuntu.rss but it has to be opened in some rss reader i persume06:18
gnomefreakhttp://kubuntu.org/kubuntu.rss06:18
_Shade_gnomefreak ok thanks06:18
CelloGBlacken: well thanks for trying byebye06:18
root__hi guys06:18
root__I\ve got a serious problem06:18
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Blacken_Shade_: You have Akregator on your machine, or should.06:19
samiiirmy harddrive is failing, does anyone know a thing like "scandisk" for Linux06:19
TheGateKeepersamiiir: badblocks06:19
Blackensamiiir: badblocks06:19
gnomefreakBlacken: there is a distro called flubuntu and we are working on making it official and we should see fluxbox-desktop in edgy+1 or edgy+206:20
TheGateKeeperBlacken: snap :-)06:20
Blackengnomefreak: I know about fluxbuntu. Hence what I said earlier. =)06:20
_Shade_Blacken not at the moment since i am on a windows machine right now06:20
gnomefreak_Shade_: he has a good point they are in akregator by default06:20
Blacken_Shade_: So fix that. :D06:20
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samiiirwhere can I get badblocks?06:21
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_Shade_Blacken i would like to do so, but it is not mine :)06:21
Blacken_Shade_: LiveCD? :P06:21
gnomefreaksamiiir: normally from a hd that has bad blocks ;)06:21
gnomefreakor bad sectors06:21
livingdaylightflash-nonfree is not in my repos?06:21
TheGateKeepersamiiir: you should already have it06:21
gnomefreaklivingdaylight: its in multiverse06:21
livingdaylightgnomefreak: i have multiverse :s06:22
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_Shade_blacken i dont have one, but stay cool - i'll be back home soon :)06:22
samiiirhow does it work?06:22
benHey people06:22
gnomefreaklivingdaylight: open you /etc/apt/sources.list file and add the word multiverse after all llines ending with universe06:22
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TheGateKeepersamiiir: man:badblocks06:22
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gnomefreaklivingdaylight: unless your on ppc or 64bit you dont have mulitverse enabled or you didnt run update06:22
_Shade_does anyone know how can i add my own features proposals using launchpad?06:22
gnomefreak_Shade_: yeah give me a minute06:23
livingdaylightgnomefreak: i had flash-nonfree and tried installing it with Adept, which is when it crashed or whatevr because the acceptance dialog of terms and conditions couldn't e seen in Adept. Hnece ive' also insatlled java now from command line. Java 1.5 further proof that i have multiverse enabled06:23
_Shade_gnomefreak i find launchpad is a bit complicated in this crowd of links etc. ;)06:23
livingdaylightgnomefreak: no, 32-bit06:23
gnomefreak_Shade_: may i pm you this info?06:23
_Shade_gnomefreak sure06:24
gnomefreak_Shade_: there you go06:24
samiiiris there no GUI program for a thing like badblocks_06:24
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gnomefreakbrb ksmoke06:25
samiiiris there no GUI program for a thing like badblocks?06:25
TheGateKeepersamiiir: just run badblocks -v /dev/hda1 <--- or whatever partition you want to test06:25
Blackengnomefreak: Bah, you weenie. Real men bashsmoke.06:25
samiiirwill this fix my HD too?06:26
BennyBoi69Linux ftw06:26
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livingdaylightgnomefreak: sorry, sorted. I had the wrong name (flash-nonfree) it is flashplugin-nonfree, and i've installed it now06:26
felixjethow to extract a tar in console?06:26
felixjettar -XXXX file ?06:26
felixjeti fotgot the XXXX06:27
samiiirwill this fix my HD too?06:27
Blackentar xvf06:27
truiutar xf file06:27
TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: you using firefox?06:27
BlackenWell, xf. But "v" is a habit.06:27
felixjetthx06:27
samiiirwill this fix my HD too?06:27
gnomefreakfelixjet: xvzf or jxvf06:27
gnomefreakor any number of the options06:27
livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: konqueror just now06:28
_Shade_is there a possibility to launch my (k)ubuntu livecd using an iso image?06:28
livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: although i use firefox too sometimes, if that is what yu mean?06:28
livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: also Opera06:28
TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: ok just spotted what you said earlier06:29
samiiirwill this fix my HD too?06:29
samiiirwill this fix my HD too?06:29
samiiirwill this fix my HD too?06:29
samiiirwill this fix my HD too?06:29
livingdaylightgnomefreak: can you tell me differne between java jre and bin and java plgin?06:29
Blackensamiiir: Cut out the bloody flooding.06:29
livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: what did you want to say?06:29
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Blackensamiiir: If you want to know how something works, read the man page.06:29
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livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: i was confused 'coz there seems tobe a variety of java installs.And i don't know if they conflict, so i wanted to make sure i had the right one or best one for me installed06:30
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livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: i chose java-jre 1.5 in the end :s06:30
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TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: ahhh good choice06:31
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livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: but i'm not sure what the difference is from teh other 1.5's like java-plugin and java-bin06:31
_Shade_i'd like to install edgy beta on my machine. The problem is all my drives are broken or simply doesnt boot from these cds. Can i boot it using an iso image on different partition?06:31
TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: after the latest update firefox downloaded flash & installed it for me06:31
samiiircan badblocks fix my HD or can't it_06:32
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physicsnickls06:32
TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: I gues java-bin will be the runtime & the plugin will be exactly that06:32
physicsnickwhoops06:32
physicsnickthis isn't a terminal at all06:32
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Dr_willissamiiir,  it MIGHT.. but   i would suggest buying a new hd and backing up to it.. asap06:33
livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: can one install 'em all?06:33
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TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: not sure I think you have installed the right thing for everything to work06:34
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livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: ok, thx, i worry too much  :)06:34
TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: wait untill you get a problem, then fix it :-)06:34
livingdaylighthahaha06:34
TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: np :-)06:34
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livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: like someone said: " I love Linux coz when something breaks, i can spend hours fixing it"06:35
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TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: :-)06:35
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slow-motionre06:36
TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: you can if you trash your gentoo system, with no backup06:36
slow-motionre06:36
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livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: lol, no thx. I leave that to the pros06:37
samiiirMY NAME IS SAMIR06:37
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samiiirI AM GANGSTER KING I ARABIA06:37
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samiiirI AM GANGSTER KING I ARABIA06:37
samiiirI AM GANGSTER KING I ARABIA06:37
samiiirI AM GANGSTER KING I ARABIA06:37
samiiirI AM GANGSTER KING I ARABIA06:37
samiiirI AM GANGSTER KING I ARABIA06:37
samiiirI AM GANGSTER KING I ARABIA06:37
samiiirI AM GANGSTER KING I ARABIA06:37
livingdaylightlol06:37
samiiirGET YOU GET ME I AM ARABIC GANGSTER KING06:37
CVirusWTF ?06:37
livingdaylightsamiiir: you aint gonna last very long here, lol06:38
samiiir>(((9(((((((((((((((((06:38
TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: apart from the odd update that slips through, (k)ubuntu seems to be rock solid06:38
samiiirmemtest told me that I had like everything it scanned faulty06:38
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CVirussamiiir: I'm an Arab too .. but whats with it ?06:38
samiiirnow badblocks say06:38
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nebihelp me please, i can install driver for usb wifi dlink dwl-g122 c106:38
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Electrolytelol fdoving :)06:39
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livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: Well, this is my first install of Kubuntu, and i'm liking it ALOT. But Synaptic is a better front end to APT than Adept. And i got a bit of a scare backthere trying to install non-free apps with Adept as it froze06:39
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TheGateKeeperfdoving: well I was going to suggest running a book on how long samiiir would last :-)06:40
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TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: install synaptic then, that's what I use :-)06:40
fdovingTheGateKeeper: :)06:40
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livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: OHHH....can you?! wow, thx for telling me that06:42
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TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: apt-get install synaptic <--- job done06:42
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livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: now, i'm liking Kubuntu yet more!06:42
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livingdaylightfdoving: why didn't you tell me ;006:43
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TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: I think if you do apt-get apititude install <package> then I think it is possible to remove all the dependencies if you decide to unistall it06:43
livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: did they seriously think it would be fun to watch people try installing java and flash from Adept and watch their PM freeze?06:44
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TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: I just don't like adept, & don't really use06:44
TheGateKeeperit06:44
livingdaylightKubuntu should come with an install warning06:44
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fdovinglivingdaylight: adept is a pretty new project, not very mature yet. alot is under construction.06:45
Digital_PioneerHi. I'm trying to get internet on my new Kubuntu installation using a Windows XP driver on NdisWrapper.06:45
livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: what's the deal, you then end up with two PM's? or does Synaptic replace Adept?06:45
jdawizanyone have a suggestion for me.  I installed edgy beta on a laptop and my only connection is wireless.  My wireless usb worked out of the box in Dapper.  Now it is recognised when I run lusb but isn't recognised in the network setup no wireless assistant.  I figured there is probably an update online that would help me but again my only connection at this point is the wi/fi usb06:45
TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: Adept & synaptic are just GUI's for apt-get06:45
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livingdaylightfdoving: but why not just improve Synaptic? Why recreate the wheel? resources could go elsewhere, no?06:46
Digital_PioneerSomething is going wrong though. My WLAN adapter doesn't seem to be receiving commands.06:46
livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: aware of that ;)06:46
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fdovinglivingdaylight: because synaptic is gnome-ish and based on another toolkit (gtk), KDE and Kubuntu is QT06:46
livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: the feature i like in Adept is managing repos by right-clicking and enabling/disabling06:46
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TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: I just use an editor06:47
livingdaylightfdoving: but Synaptic can be installed in kubuntu anyway, so what is the deal? Besides gtk and QT toolkits are moving more and more towards integration i read06:47
TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home  <--- something I have thrown together06:48
Digital_PioneerNo-one cares to help the poor n00b with his internet?06:48
TheGateKeeper!patience06:48
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines06:48
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Digital_PioneerTheGateKeeper, I don't want to be pushy, but this channel is busy. If someone _could_ and _would_ help me, chances are they'd never find my request.06:49
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fdovingDigital_Pioneer: ask a question, give error messages, 'something is going wrong' doesn't give much information on anything.06:50
nebique programa es ese?06:50
TheGateKeeperDigital_Pioneer: well I have not yet installed wireless on linux yet, so I can't help you06:50
fdoving!es > nebi06:50
Digital_Pioneerfdoving, OK, you tell me where to find error messages. :)06:50
livingdaylightfdoving:06:50
fdovingDigital_Pioneer: what is your problem?06:50
Digital_Pioneerfdoving, iwconfig says my access point is invalid, and nothing seems to be accessing my WLAN adapter.06:51
livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: good! I would make the fonts bigger by default. They showed up small here But nice infor :)06:51
Digital_PioneerIt's a Netgear WG111v2 USB wireless adapter. :)06:51
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Digital_PioneerNdisWrapper says driver installed hardware installed.06:51
TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: http://avi.alkalay.net/linux/docs/font-howto/Font.html#intro06:51
TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: ohhh I just misunderstood what you said :-)06:52
TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: I just used the default settings06:53
livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: but thx anyways!06:53
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livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: i'm glad i bumped into you06:53
fdovingDigital_Pioneer:06:53
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fdovinghttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21236506:53
TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: well we all try to help each other :-)06:53
livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: yea, default is almost always usually too samll06:53
livingdaylighttrue06:53
livingdaylightI used to find that especially in kde06:54
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Digital_Pioneerfdoving, OK, Thanks.06:54
livingdaylightTheGateKeeper: SuSE 9.1 was my first Linux os, and after Windows i couldn't believe the default settings - everything was tiny! but at least everything was configurable too ;)06:55
TheGateKeeperlivingdaylight: :-)06:55
TheGateKeeperright food, back latter...06:55
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livingdaylighthttp://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/desktop-tips.html#kde-startup says session manager is on the left of 'user account' in system settings. but where? i don't see my session manager? Has session manager been moved since the writing of the documentation i'm reading?07:01
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fdovinglivingdaylight: try the advanced tab, might be there.07:04
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livingdaylightfdoving: strange i only have 'Password&User Account' and 'Path' tabs on the left of my 'User Account' in System Settings07:06
menace82hello... i'am using kubuntu 6.10 and i have 2 soundcards ( 1 onboard and 1 sblive). my problem is that i want to use sblive for music, dvds etc and the onboard for voip. The system has as default the onboard. How can i use the sblive as the system default sound card?07:06
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fdovinglivingdaylight: do you have a button named 'advanced' at the very top of system settings?07:07
ricaneliteI need major help!!!07:07
fdoving!ask07:07
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:07
ricaneliteokay sorry!07:07
Skrotmenace82: Good question. You might want to try #alsa if nobody knows07:07
livingdaylightfdoving: nope :(07:07
fdovingsaves you some time, if it's so urgent.07:07
Hawkwindmenace82: Disable the onboard card in your BIOS, then boot the machine07:07
menace82Hawkwind: i want the onboard soundcard07:08
Hawkwindmenace82: Why do you want to use both ?07:08
menace82Hawkwind: because i want a second sc for voip07:08
ricaneliteI try to open up Add/Remove Application and I get a Message saying Failed to Check Installed and available applications "Check the Permissions and corrections of the '/etc/apt/sources.list' now I dont know anything about this so please help07:08
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livingdaylightricanelite: you don't have to ask. If you have to go to the loo, just go! :)07:09
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Hawkwindmenace82: I've never dealt with 2 soundcards.  My SBLive does multiple channel so I can hear more than one app make sounds at a time07:09
ricaneliteI'm a complete Linux Newbie and getting upset, cause every where I turn nothing turns out good for me right now07:09
hyperhello abattoir07:09
hyperhello trappist07:10
menace82Hawkwind: i have connected the sblive to my 5.1 speaker system and the onboard to a headset07:10
ricaneliteI'm using a KDE Desktop if that will help!07:10
hyperrican: what do you try to accomplish'07:10
hyper?07:10
livingdaylightricanelite: sounds to me like what it could possibly be is that you want to install stuff that is not there. Have you updated your repositories?07:10
ricaneliteI dont know how07:10
fdovingricanelite: try to open a konsole (kmenu -> system -> konsole) and run 'kdesu adept'07:11
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fdovingricanelite: does that work?07:12
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ricaneliteIt says APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem, Try running apt-setup and agt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem07:13
fdovingricanelite: ok, in the console try to run 'sudo apt-get update'07:13
livingdaylightricanelite: have yo unot noticed in teh menu tray an update ! in red?07:13
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ricanelitetheres nothing there07:14
livingdaylightricanelite: did you try what fdoving suggested?07:14
livingdaylightricanelite: have you just installed Kubuntu?07:15
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livingdaylightricanelite: ?07:16
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ricanelitethis is what I get E: Type '$wget' ius not known on line 37 in source list /etc/apt/source.list07:16
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ricaneliteThat is the error message I get07:17
fdoving!source-o-matic07:17
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:17
fdovingricanelite: go there ^^07:17
fdovingricanelite: and replace your sources.list with the new you generate there.07:17
livingdaylightricanelite: http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html follow this documentation closely. I'm a noob too. but i found this easy to follow. LIke a recipie. It'll tell you how to add reposto APT of which Adept is the gui(=graphical)frontend07:17
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zorglu_the personn which does something to easy add/remove the sources in sources.list will be appreciated :)07:18
BennyBoi69How do i install irissi?07:18
zorglu_!info irissi07:18
ubotuPackage irissi does not exist in any distro I know07:18
fdovingzorglu_: it's a feature of adept.07:18
ricaneliteoh boy im confuse, lol07:18
fdovingmight not be easy enought,as you need to write.07:18
BennyBoi69irssi*07:18
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fdovingricanelite: don't be. :)07:19
livingdaylightfdoving: replace?!!! and Dr_willis told me to add it, geezus. My repos must be a mess07:19
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fdovinglivingdaylight: what did you add?07:19
BennyBoi69how do i install irssi?07:19
zorglu_fdoving: yep :) in fact as we can count the amount of problem reported here07:19
LjLBennyBoi69: "sudo apt-get install irssi"07:19
zorglu_!info irssi07:19
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Dr_willissudo apt-get install irssi07:19
Dr_willis!Info irssi07:19
ubotuirssi: terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.10-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 989 kB, installed size 2764 kB07:19
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livingdaylightfdoving: what i made up in srouce-o-matic07:19
fdovinglivingdaylight: before doing anything else, you can post the contents of your sources.list file to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org i'll look at it and tell you whats wrong-07:19
livingdaylightricanelite: talk to me. Whats the problem?07:19
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livingdaylightfdoving: thx man07:20
BennyBoi69Where i type that?07:20
BennyBoi69in terminal?07:20
LjLBennyBoi69: yes07:20
HawkwindBennyBoi69: Yes07:20
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fdovingricanelite: i can do the same for you, if you post the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org07:20
LjLDr_willis: on a keyboard?07:20
Dr_willisalt-f2 i guess.. but thats just a mini-terminal :P07:20
BennyBoi69ok07:21
BennyBoi69i did it07:21
HawkwindDr_willis: In an editor, in your current irc client :P07:21
Dr_willisLjL,   bah! use the ESP-Module!07:21
BennyBoi69now where can i find it... :S?07:21
HawkwindBennyBoi69: Type: irssi in a terminal07:21
LjLBennyBoi69: type "irssi"07:21
Dr_willisBennyBoi69,  now would be a GOOD time to go to the IRSSI homepage and read the docs.07:21
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livingdaylightfdoving: here is output of my sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26324/07:21
fdovinglivingdaylight: ok.07:21
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BennyBoi69oki07:22
BennyBoi69All good :)07:22
Digital_Pioneerfdoving, Didn't fix it. :(07:22
fdovinglivingdaylight: doesn't this sources.list work?07:22
zorglu_BennyBoi69: just in case you dont know yet, konversation is a gui irc client http://konversation.kde.org it is a lot more integrated in kde and may worth a try07:22
livingdaylightfdoving: you can see halfway down. The sources-o-matic list added on (tagged on the end)07:22
fdovingDigital_Pioneer: what didn't work? (can't remember your problem.)07:23
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arepiei've installed my fglrx ati driver, but, why does my OpenGL is still mesa?07:23
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fdovinglivingdaylight: yes, they seem correct. do you get error messages?07:23
Digital_Pioneerfdoving, I can't get my WLAN adapter to work.07:23
livingdaylightfdoving:it appears to sofar...:) i just wondered since you said replace and i added on, that i might have done it wrong07:23
fdovingDigital_Pioneer: ah..07:23
livingdaylightfdoving: again, not so far07:23
Digital_Pioneerfdoving, You sent me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21236507:23
livingdaylightfdoving: if it ain't broke don't fix it?07:23
HawkwindIf it ain't broke, tweak it!07:24
livingdaylightHawkwind: :)07:24
fdovinglivingdaylight: can you open konsole (kmenu -> system -> konsole) run 'sudo apt-get update' and post the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ?07:24
Dr_willisIf it aint Broke.. my wife hasent gotten a hold of it yet.07:24
Dr_willis:)07:24
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DjDarkmanhy ,can someone tell me how can I limit my bandiwdth usage?07:25
ricanelitefdoving i sent it07:25
livingdaylightfdoving: ok, man. But i love Yakuake, so, i'll go there and do it ;)07:25
ricaneliteHow can I register here so I could send messages to you guys07:25
fdovingricanelite: can you give me the resulting URL?07:25
fdovingDjDarkman: how do you want to limit it?07:25
ricanelitewhat you mean?07:25
fdoving!register07:25
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration07:25
fdovingricanelite: ^^07:25
ellenis someone there07:26
DjDarkmanfdoving: I have a home network of 3 computers ,one has internet access07:26
fdovingricanelite: when you posted the contents to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org you got a address, what is  the address to the post?07:26
DjDarkmanfdoving: if I start downloading too fast they all lag07:26
DjDarkmanbut sadly I can`t control the speed of my downloads07:26
fdovingDjDarkman: get wondershaper, it's easy to use and it works.07:27
fdoving!wondershaper07:27
ubotuwondershaper: Easy to use traffic shaping script. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1a-4 (dapper), package size 13 kB, installed size 80 kB07:27
ricanelitehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26327/07:27
fdovingDjDarkman: ^^ - it's in the universere pository.07:27
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arepiei've installed my fglrx ati driver, but, why does my OpenGL is still mesa?07:27
fdovingricanelite: thanks.07:27
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DjDarkmanok I`ll try it07:27
ricaneliteokay, so what are you going to do?07:27
ricanelitefix it?07:27
ricanelitelol07:27
fdovingricanelite: remove the last line.07:28
arkadyricanelite: you have to delete the 37th line07:28
fdovingricanelite: are you on Breezy?07:28
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livingdaylightfdoving: outcome of apt-get update: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26328/ GPG errors at the end07:28
ricaneliteIm not sure, all I know is i updated the lastest Version of Ubuntu and on the KDE Desktop07:28
ricanelitelol07:28
Dr_willislivingdaylight,  that most likely means you ont have the keys imported for that repository07:28
fdovinglivingdaylight: ah.. run the commands in the comments of your sources.list to get rid of them.07:29
livingdaylightDr_willis: yes, and how is that done. Or why is that not done automatically?07:29
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Dr_willisThe  sourceslist gives docs on how to import the keys.. its not a Critical error. its a warning.07:29
fdovinglivingdaylight: and you can also remove the ftp.free.fr lines.07:29
Dr_willis!apt-get07:29
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)07:29
livingdaylightfdoving: run the commands of my sources.list, hmmm....:s07:30
ricaneliteYeah I register my name!!!07:30
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fdovingricanelite: please take support specific questions here, others can learn, and benefit from the answer.07:31
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ricaneliteOh okay07:32
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ricaneliteI'm sorry07:32
ubuntu_Hi out there!07:32
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ricanelitehow can I find out if I'm using Breezy or not?07:32
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fdovingricanelite: run 'lsb_release -a'07:32
JanHolbosorry changed my nick :)07:32
Hawkwindricanelite: lsb_release07:32
Hawkwindricanelite: lsb_release -a07:33
Dr_williscat /etc/lsb-release07:33
ricaneliteAlt-F2 right? for run command?07:33
fdovingricanelite: in konsole, preferably.07:33
HawkwindNo need to use cat and an extra command :P07:33
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Dr_willisunless of coyrse you dont want to see the output. :)07:33
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Dr_willisHawkwind,  Blasphmy! the True Linux-haxor-white-and-nerdy-guy always uses cat!07:34
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zorglu_no, it use only dd07:34
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HawkwindDr_willis: cat is greatly over used almost all the time07:34
livingdaylightfdoving: can you explain more whaqt you mean by 'run the commands in teh comments? here's my sources.list again. Maybe you can point to the #line and what i have to do to jumpstart me : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26324/07:34
Dr_willis lsb_release -a | kmessenge `somthign with backticks and cat and perl/awk`07:34
Dr_willis:)07:34
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ricaneliteokay it says Distributor ID:Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS  Release: 6.06  Codename: Dapper07:34
HawkwindHah07:34
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JanHolbohow do I make a dd of a harddrive and compress it in one go? it needs to go to an NFS mount and just the raw dd takes forever ....   can I get gzip or bzip to accept input from stdin?07:35
fdovingJanHolbo: use partimage07:35
fdoving!partimage07:35
ubotupartimage: backup partitions into a compressed image file. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-14 (dapper), package size 261 kB, installed size 936 kB07:35
JanHolbois it on the ubuntu livecd?07:35
BennyBoi69on gaim, Is there a way to turn sounds off, without me having to do it all the time?07:35
fdovingricanelite: ok, good, then you use dapper, and then you're up2date. :)07:35
ricaneliteokay07:35
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ricanelitewell do I need to still take out line #37?07:36
JanHolbofdoving: is it on the ubuntu livecd?07:36
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ricanelitehow can I do that?07:36
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Dr_willisfire up a text editor.. and delet the line07:36
livingdaylightfdoving: teh ftp lines you refer to are PLF, yes? don't i want to keep that?07:36
fdovingJanHolbo: not sure.07:36
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fdovingbbl.07:36
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arkadyricanelite: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list -> delete line 37 -> save07:37
arkadylivingdaylight: have you imported Riddel's key for kubuntu's repository?07:38
ricanelitedo that in Konsole?07:38
LjLricanelite: yes07:38
intelikeyarkady wyh not have him enable universe while he's there ?07:38
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livingdaylightarkady: dunno07:38
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livingdaylightarkady: i donlt know how to import keys07:38
JanHolbofdoving: its not there ....  but thanks anyways :)07:38
arkadylivingdaylight:  wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg07:39
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arkadylivingdaylight:  sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg07:39
ricaneliteI will even delete the $wget right?07:39
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arkadyricanelite: yes, delete that line07:39
ricanelitesave it07:40
ricanelite??07:40
mwolffhello there07:40
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ricanelitemy hands are sweaty, lol07:40
arkadyricanelite: yes, save it07:40
ricanelitedo i need to restart my machine?07:40
intelikeyno07:40
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ricaneliteokay07:40
arkadyricanelite: nope07:40
mwolffuuhm, I'm pretty sure this has been asked a thousand times this evening already, but... could it be that the 3.5.5 update is borked?07:41
zorglu_ricanelite: but do 'sudo apt-get update' to keep your local cache in sync07:41
intelikeyonly time you "need" to restart/reboot  is if you want to run a different OS/kernel07:41
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mwolffon updating to 3.5.5 I'm getting tons of errors like this one:07:42
mwolffCRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed07:42
ricanelitewait i type in the Konsole sudo apt-get update ?07:42
mwolffshould I be worried?07:42
livingdaylightarkady: part of the message: gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found07:43
ricaneliteokay perfect nevermind it worked07:43
DjDarkmanthanks fdoving this tool is cool07:43
livingdaylightarkady: did it work?07:43
ricaneliteokay are you all ready for another problem I'm having??07:43
ricanelitelol07:43
ricaneliteyou guys are going to be happy when I'm gone07:43
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ricaneliteyou see everyone is leaving now07:44
ricanelitelol07:44
livingdaylightricanelite: is life feeling better now?07:44
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ricaneliteyeah it is!07:44
ricanelitebut i have a couple of more problems07:44
livingdaylightricanelite: you see07:44
ricanelitelol07:44
livingdaylightarkady: how can i test your solution?07:44
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ricanelitehow can I remove wine and reinstall it again07:45
intelikey!wine07:45
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.07:45
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ricaneliteokay i will check that07:45
intelikey!info wine07:45
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB07:45
intelikeyit's in the  universe repo07:45
ricaneliteokay07:46
intelikeyyou will have to enable universe07:46
ricanelitehow you do that?07:46
zorglu_!universe07:46
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:46
livingdaylightricanelite: why not open Adept - look for wine - uninstall?07:46
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livingdaylightarkady: you there?07:46
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ricanelitedid'nt know that, just started using Ubuntu last night, lol07:47
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ricaneliteall I have to say is thank god to you all and this IRC chat!!!07:47
livingdaylightDitto07:47
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ricanelitealright got that removed07:49
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ricanelitenow, this is the most important thing I'm trying to get working right now, in my job we use Windows XP and we use a Application that is .jnlp file which requires us to use the lastest Java07:51
felix_eriddell: would you mind updating the kde-latest / kde-stable symlinks? thanks.07:51
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ricaneliteNow, dont ask me how I installed it and it loads up and when it says Starting Application it disappears. And nothing happens07:52
ricaneliteWhen I go to Internet>Sun Java 5.0 it is listed there and when I say Launch Application it starts to load up and then disppears.07:52
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ricanelitedoes anyone have any ideas?07:53
=== Dr_willis wonsers what Sun Java. should be loading actually
Dr_williswhat are you expecting to see?07:53
ricanelitea Window that looks like a Web Browser07:53
Dr_willisI see a Sun Java Web Start07:53
ricaneliteWell the Sun Java Web Star works07:53
Dr_willisand it launched a little applicatopon launcher list07:53
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ricaneliteits just the Application I'm trying to run07:54
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sorush20isn't it gay the way you still have to setup repositories manually,,,, bye07:54
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ricaneliteI wish I could send you the file and you could see what I mean07:54
Dr_willisi dont see no Java 5.0 icon,07:54
livingdaylightricanelite: are you installing java from Adept?07:54
TheGateKeeperricanelite: use pastebin07:55
ricanelitewell java been installed07:55
Dr_willisHmm.. Nifty that all the Java web start appls ive downloaded are in that list. :)07:55
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TheGateKeeper!pastebin07:55
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:55
Dr_willistry07:55
ricaneliteWell yeah and my Application we use here at work is in the Download Area but it does not fully start up07:55
Dr_willisjava -version07:55
Dr_willisand see which java is the default07:55
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ricanelitejava version 1.4.207:57
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iberthi! I've got problems configuring upslug2. The error message is "configure.ac: 8: required file `./[config.h] .in' not found" but the file is here. What am I missing?07:59
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zorglu_with [ ]  ?07:59
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ibertzorglu_: no - the file is without [] 08:02
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intelikey!java > ricanelite08:02
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livingdaylightI take Kubuntu doesn't use Nautilus. Is Konqueror the file manager?08:06
fdovingyes.08:06
lnxkdelivingdaylight: yep08:06
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livingdaylightthx, guys08:06
lnxkdekonqueror rocks :)08:06
lnxkdelivingdaylight: new to linux or just to KDE?08:07
livingdaylightI wanna confess at this stage by admitting that Kubuntu is better than Ubuntu. I just don't like the obsession with the 'K's'08:07
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intelikeylivingdaylight konqueror is the kde file/web browser  nautilus is the 'nome file manager  tunner is the xfce file manager  gentoo is a file manager that will run in any of them but you wont like it.  :)08:08
livingdaylightlnxkde: been using Ubuntu for about 4 years, BUt today i broke my Kubuntu virginity08:08
lnxkdelivingdaylight: hehe is not better :) ubuntu is flavor and kubuntu is another ;)  live vanilla and strabery :)08:08
lnxkdeKubuntu is my favorite :)08:08
zorglu_4years?08:09
ibertI need not to compile it, I've found an .deb file.08:09
lnxkdelivingdaylight: kde.org08:09
livingdaylightlnxkde: just my opinion based on experience. But you're right. just different. I still love Gnome's elegance and simplicity. But i really love being able to assing a different background per workspace - something you can't do in Gnome for example08:09
lnxkdelivingdaylight: u have been using ubuntu for 4 years?08:10
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zorglu_impressive :) as ubuntu is only 2 years old :)08:11
intelikeywasn't it called debian before that ?08:11
livingdaylightlnxkde: yea, about that :)08:11
intelikey:)08:11
lnxkdelol08:11
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livingdaylightreally?08:12
lnxkdeyep...08:12
intelikeyreally08:12
lnxkdeubuntu is new08:12
lnxkdehehehe08:12
livingdaylightwell i started with SuSE 9.1 when was that?08:12
lnxkdeok that was long ago08:12
v3ctori started with redhat 6.208:12
lnxkdewhen the dinasaurs still were in the planet.08:13
intelikey9.1  not so long ago08:13
lnxkde:p08:13
livingdaylightand although i was grateful i was frought with dependency hell08:13
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lnxkdeI started with mandrake 7.2 back in december of 200008:13
livingdaylightthen i discovered Ubuntu about hoary aguess, but you're saying it was only 2 years ago, so....lol08:13
livingdaylightfeels longer08:13
intelikeyi'd have to check the versioning  but i think SuSE 9 was about 0308:13
intelikey9.108:14
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lnxkdedistrowatch.com time. :)08:14
livingdaylightlnxkde: Ok, so i been using LInux for about 4/5 years but Ubuntu since whenever that started. Please believe me ? :)08:14
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lnxkdelivingdaylight: that does not matter the important thing is that you have discovered the power of KDE and Kubuntu ;)08:14
intelikeylivingdaylight nope your credability is already shot08:14
livingdaylighthehe08:15
intelikey:)08:15
lnxkdebtw: guys KDE 3.5.5 is out who else is updating?08:15
=== arkady have to go (bye guys!)
intelikeylnxkde not me08:15
livingdaylightthx arkady08:15
risenhrmm...08:15
lnxkdebye arkady08:15
lnxkdeintelikey: why?08:16
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mikkihi, need some help with xgl on ubuntu with ati, i have installed it but it dosnt seem to work08:16
intelikeyah cause i don't even have kde installed....08:16
lnxkdeintelikey: &%#^&$#&@08:16
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lnxkdemikki: whats the problem?08:17
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intelikeyrisen what issues ?08:17
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mikkii have followed this tutorial second section: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24515208:18
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risenoh just with installing and using software.. i can't seem to get frostwire to load up and run08:18
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intelikeylnxkde you sure you want to do that to people that don't even like X   (console users)  ?08:18
intelikey:)08:18
risennore can i get anything else that i've tried to instal to run after it's been installed08:18
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mikkiand logged in with xgl, and nothing is different exept everthing is slow08:18
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lnxkdeintelikey: u use console only?08:18
Maykohallo, i need some help on change the kdm theme on comand line, anyone know how?08:18
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intelikeylnxkde yeah08:19
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lnxkdemikki you started compiz or beryl?08:19
lnxkdeintelikey:  nice08:19
lnxkde:)08:19
livingdaylightwhy could i be getting /mnt busy when i do umount /mnt?08:19
mikkidont think so, dont know how08:19
intelikeyrisen did you follow the wiki on frostwire ?08:19
lnxkdemikki that is all08:19
intelikey!frostwire08:19
risenyep08:19
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire08:19
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lnxkdedid you install compiz or beryl?08:19
rafawnas08:20
fdovinglivingdaylight: because you've got it open somewhere. a filemanager or you might be cd'ed into it in konsole. you can use 'umount -l /mnt' if you want to do it the 'lazy' way :)08:20
mikkii have installed it i think08:20
mikkihow do i start it ?08:20
mikkicompiz08:20
intelikeyrisen hmmm you get any error messages ?   try starting it from konsole and see if it gives errors ?08:20
risenit's installed right... but.... when i go to run it.. NOTHING happens.. i know i have the newest java runtimes installed and operational.... but still nothing happens08:20
Maykoi'am use the kdm themes in KDE 3.5.408:20
rafamy name is rafa...08:20
rafahi!08:20
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intelikey!cli08:21
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands08:21
Maykoand i'am are build one script for change that, but i stop in this question08:21
lnxkdemikki : u should install beryl08:21
livingdaylightfdoving: how do i cd out  - i've shut everything else off that i can see?08:21
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riseni know it is.. but i haven't had the time to learn it yet....08:22
intelikeyrisen some good info found there   ^08:22
rafacan you speak spanish?....I need support08:22
mikkiok, from adept ?08:22
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zorglu_!es08:22
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.08:22
lnxkdeyep08:22
fdovinglivingdaylight: you can use 'fuser -vmik /mnt' or something like that. (not 100% sure.. you can try).08:22
rafathanks08:22
felixjetwhats the parameter on tar to overwrite files?08:23
lnxkdemikki as soon you got all the beryl packages intalled run start-beryl-manager08:23
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mikkii have beryl-core08:23
felixjet--overwrite?08:23
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azzcoI'm trying to get flash to work in konqueror... I went to the plugins section and scanned. it found someting in /usr/lib/mozilla libflashplayer.so I think it was called and that should be right but I still can't use flash in konq08:23
riseni see that.. but i don't see how to navigate through the directories on there.. i'm only seeing how to look at the current directory.. ?08:24
livingdaylightfdoving: umount -l /mnt seems to have done it. What did the -l arguement do that umount /mnt coulndn't do on it s own?08:24
=== risen is sorry for being a n00b..
livingdaylightrisen: no, I am the n00b08:25
=== risen knows M$ winblows like the back of his hand... (ie. Geek Squad agent for best buy) but it doesn't help with linux
livingdaylightWill the real n00b please stand?08:25
=== risen stands up
livingdaylightMy name is Spartacus!08:25
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livingdaylighthehe08:26
Ash-Fox!ati08:26
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:26
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dreamersHi Guys. Im a new linux user and testing Kubuntu for the first time. I have managed to get my wireless to work, but im not sure how i connect to my workgroup and my other PC's, Could anyone please help me?08:26
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AbortDwhat os do they run?08:27
dreamerskubuntu08:27
=== realn00b would be happy to just figure out how to get new proggies to run right.. network shit can come later :)
AbortDall of the computers?08:27
AbortDwhat kind of programs?08:27
dreamersno.. the other are windows machines08:27
zorglu_!samba08:27
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT08:27
ricaneliteI still cant get this Main.jnlp file to open08:27
AbortDi dont think you can dreamers08:27
AbortDi dunno though08:27
AbortDoh nm08:28
zorglu_dreamers: look at the above link08:28
AbortDsamva08:28
AbortDsamba08:28
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AbortDim so damn tired08:28
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mikkii got beryl now, and have started it, what now08:28
dreamersThank you for the link. I will have a look at it. Thnx for the help guys. =)08:29
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intelikeyricanelite konsole  jre main.jnlp    does it show any errors ?08:29
mikkilnxkde: got beryl08:29
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ricaneliteit says command not found08:31
soulriderhi everyone08:31
ricanelitei type it in the Konsole right08:31
intelikeyjre: command not found  or   bash: command not found ?08:32
intelikeyright08:32
ricanelitebah: jre: command not found08:32
mikki!xgl08:32
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems08:32
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intelikeyricanelite you know i don't do java  but that looks like you need to work on the installation of java08:33
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intelikeyshouldn't jre be a command in the path  (someone that does java?) ???08:33
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ricanelitewell i installed everything correctly from Java, like i said before it runs but when the Application is about to stop it does nothing else but disappear08:34
intelikey!java08:34
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository08:34
dreamersA quick question. What does the "sudo" command do08:34
dreamers?08:34
intelikey!sudo08:34
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.08:34
ricaneliteI wish I could send you the file so you could see what i mean08:34
intelikeythe full answer dreamers ^08:34
ricaneliteor with my luck it will run perfect08:34
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TheGateKeeperdreamers: give you admin privalages for that command08:35
dreamersThnx guys =)08:35
intelikeysudo==super user do08:35
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intelikeydreamers generally any command has a man page.    man man08:36
intelikeythe first section of the man page is the discription08:37
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fdovingyou can also use 'man -k word' to search for manpages.08:37
dreamersIm realy new at Linux so I might ask really stupid questions. like what is man?08:38
intelikeyman -a <blah> for all man pages on <blah>   but that's all covered in  man man08:38
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intelikeywhat is man?      that question has been asked many millions of times....08:39
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intelikeyover centuries08:39
dreamersHehe.. =)08:39
livingdaylightare people also installing nvidia-glx-dev? or is nvidia-glx sufficient?08:39
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intelikeylivingdaylight if you plan on compiling 3d things install the dev08:40
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lipe_pehow can i add a pass to cups ...08:40
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intelikey!ati > livingdaylight08:40
lipe_pehow can i add a pass to cups ... please08:40
dreamersAhhh I get it now. I have to run it on the console... nice.. thnx for the info.. Will use it a lot now =)08:40
livingdaylightintelikey: what does compiling entail? will i need it to enable 3d effects and potentially XGL/Compiz?08:41
intelikeydreamers you're welcome08:41
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bbeck_Does anyone know if/how I can use Kopete to chat with people using zeroconf and iChat?08:41
intelikeylivingdaylight compiling means building the software from the source code08:41
livingdaylightintelikey: i've got agp nvidia 6600GT08:41
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livingdaylightintelikey: ok, no, doesn't  sound like me ^^08:42
intelikeylivingdaylight no it doesn't   yet anyway.08:42
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intelikeyricanelite ask about the main.* in #ubuntu  maybe someone that is expert in java08:43
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intelikeyor maybe not.08:44
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intelikeybbeck_ it should be possable.  i've never tried it.08:44
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intelikeywhat am i saying "should be possabel"  of course it's possable.  this is linux, you can do anything in linux.08:45
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livingdaylightnow, i'm confused nvidia-glx-legacy because i have agp or just nvidia-glx?08:47
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intelikeylivingdaylight the link i sent via the bot has a list of what needs legacy and evry thing not on the list assumes it doesn't08:48
intelikey!ati08:48
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:48
intelikeythat page ^08:48
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livingdaylightintelikey: too true...sorry08:50
intelikeynp08:50
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dreamersThnx for the help guys. See you later.08:53
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thygrrrPlease help me... for some strange reason, every time I boot up, the kpersonalizer wizard pops up and asks for settings... either way, my kde settings are gone after that happens (e.g. windows shade on doubleclick instead of maximize, etc)08:54
buzzyplease suggest me a download accelerator..08:55
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zorglu_buzzy: what is a 'download accelerator' ?08:56
buzzydownlaod manager08:57
buzzyi meant08:57
buzzysorry08:57
buzzyzorglu_,08:57
zorglu_same question :)08:57
HawkwindManage your files from CLI or from konqueror or the likes :)08:57
fdovingbuzzy: kget08:57
fdovingI use 'axel' if i want to download something fast.08:58
intelikeywget08:58
abattoirhi hyper :)08:58
zorglu_so a 'download manager' in window term, is something like wget ?08:58
HawkwindI use wget since my connection is darn fast enough08:58
fdovingcan wget make more than one connection?08:59
zorglu_nope, wget use a single http connection08:59
zorglu_http1.008:59
intelikeyman wget    or even   man curl08:59
Hawkwindfdoving: If you use it in multiple terminals it can :)08:59
fdovingthen axel probably will be faster.08:59
HawkwindBut what I download is usually torrents, which ktorrent comes into play then08:59
intelikeysome like culr09:00
intelikeycurl09:00
ricanelitewhat you all think could be causing this here is the error message Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError : main/jnlp09:00
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jessica_hallo!09:01
zorglu_fdoving: do you have an url for axel ?  i googled a bit wihtout success ?09:01
fdovingit's in the repos.09:01
fdoving!axel09:01
ubotuaxel: A light download accelerator - Console version. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0b-1 (dapper), package size 33 kB, installed size 168 kB09:01
jessica_wie ging das nochmal fr deutsch?09:01
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LjL!de09:01
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de09:01
jessica_danke!09:02
LjLbitte09:02
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intelikeyricanelite have you asked in  ##java  ?09:02
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fabrice_join /sdz09:02
zorglu_http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/download-accelerator-for-linux-command-line-tools.html <- axel url i found :)09:02
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ricanelitei cant join that channel it said09:03
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Hawkwindzorglu_: You know you're always supposed to search the repos first :)09:04
zorglu_:)09:04
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ricaneliteit says you need to be identified to join that channel09:04
intelikeyricanelite have you asked in  #ubuntu   ?09:05
Hawkwindricanelite: What channel are you referring to ?09:05
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ricaneliteJava09:05
Hawkwindricanelite: So register your nick09:05
intelikeyyou can regester your nick and idintify with the server.   /msg nickserv help09:05
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ricanelitei did already09:05
intelikey   /msg nickserv help09:06
intelikey   /msg nickserv help idintify09:06
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zorglu_!register09:06
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration09:06
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pacmanuh oh09:07
zorglu_ricanelite: and i advice you to identify automatically via konversation. it is done auytomatically, less bothering and avoid mistakes like giving your password on the channle :)09:07
pacmanSmall aircraft has flown into a residential high rise in New York09:07
intelikeypacman ?09:08
pacmanyeah09:08
intelikeylinky ?09:08
pacmancnn.com09:08
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intelikeyhad me worried.  thought you meant another one.09:10
fdovingzorglu_: just tested aget, looks like it's actually faster than axel too. you should check it out.09:11
zorglu_fdoving: thanks i will09:12
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intelikeynow that's a short man page.09:13
intelikeyman aget09:13
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intelikeyconcise might apply.09:14
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intelikeywould the oppisite of information be outformation ?09:15
TheGateKeeperfdoving: have you used partimage?09:16
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fdovingTheGateKeeper: yes.09:17
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TheGateKeepereasy to setup & backup stuff to dvd?09:17
fdovingyes.09:17
felixjethi09:17
TheGateKeeperfdoving: ok thanx, might give that a try09:18
felixjeti have a problem, i enter the windows partition to do somethings, i back to linux and i have 640x480 res. and cant change. what can i do?09:18
felixjetthe driver appears as legacy, now i installed nvidia-glx but i cant select it from screen prefrecence -> hardware09:19
felixjetplz hel09:19
fdovingTheGateKeeper: i use a knoppix livecd for it. if you intend to use the client-server function, i recommend to run a livecd on the server too. or somehow run the -exact- same version of partimage on both ends.09:19
TheGateKeeperfdoving: ok thanx, I was just thinking of using to back up my desktop pc09:20
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TheGateKeeperfdoving: never really sure whether to use something like partimage or just to use tar09:21
fdovingTheGateKeeper: i use backupninja (with rdiff-backup) and partimage.09:22
felixjeti have a problem, i enter the windows partition to do somethings, i back to linux and i have 640x480 res. and cant change. what can i do?09:22
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calr0xWhat package specifically installs "sshd_config"?  I'd like to reinstall the cfg, as it was removed.  Thx09:24
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calr0xopenssh-server does not install it.09:24
intelikeyopenssh-server09:24
TheGateKeeperfelixjet: have a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:24
TheGateKeeperfdoving: ok thanx, backupninja that's a new one on me :-)09:25
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intelikeycalr0x   grep  /etc/ssh/sshd_config /var/lib/dpkg/info/*09:27
fdovingcalr0x: get the deb of openssh-server (can't do this with apt-get afaik). and run 'sudo dpkg -i --force-confmiss openssh-server.deb'09:27
fdovingcalr0x: that's if the config is missing.09:27
fdovingcalr0x: if you have downlaoded the package with apt-get, you can get the .deb file from /var/cache/apt/archives/09:28
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root__ey09:29
root__i have a bigggggggggg problem09:29
HawkwindYou shouldn't be irc'ing as root for one thing :)09:29
fdoving!ask09:29
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:29
trappistI'll say.  you're irc'ing as root!09:29
calr0xeveryone: thx alot!09:29
trappistdangit.09:29
HawkwindNor should you be logged into X as root either09:29
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root__i restarted the pc and it dont shows me the login window09:30
root__i had a problem with grah card... it showed all in 680x480. i installed nvidia-glx. restarted a few times09:30
intelikeyyou shouldn't be restarting it..09:30
root__and after a 4th, i cant load the login window09:30
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jdawizroot__ does it show you a black screen?09:30
root__it shows the kubuntu black and blue screen09:30
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calr0xfdoving: you addressed it perfectly thx09:30
fdoving!xconfig09:30
ubotuxconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"09:30
root__without that XXXXXXXXXXX ----------- [ok] 09:30
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fdovingcalr0x: great, glad you got it working :)09:31
root__i must do that xconfig?09:31
root__and ill lose my configs/preferences?09:31
fdovingyou can backup your current xorg.conf09:31
TheGateKeeperCNN.com: A small plane has crashed into a building in New York City. No further details immediately available.09:32
root__how plz09:32
fdovingcp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/backup.xorg.conf09:32
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root__this irc client is so annoying09:32
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lithiumhi all09:32
root__k09:33
fdovingTheGateKeeper: as rude and feelingless it might sound, #kubuntu-offtopic :)09:33
root__and the other thing09:33
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root__!xconfig09:33
ubotuxconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"09:33
TheGateKeeperfdoving: just info09:33
soulriderdoes anyone know if theres any live CDs that already come with spanish as their default language ?09:33
root__brb09:33
root__XD09:33
fdovingTheGateKeeper: understand :)09:33
root__exit09:33
root__quit09:33
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soulridersomeone needs a live CD thats in spanish09:33
root__u_U09:33
intelikey /09:33
root__how to quit this irc09:33
fdovingroot__: /quit09:33
intelikey /quit09:33
soulridertype /quit or disconnect09:33
root__oh yea >.<09:34
intelikeyswitch consoles and do a killall09:34
lithiumany known issues with updating from kde 3.5.4 to 3.5.5?09:34
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fdovingsoulrider: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/debian.htm search for spanish.09:34
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fdovinglithium: the upgrade process was flawless in edgy.09:35
fdovingdon't know for dapper.09:35
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scionmorning all09:35
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lithiumi wait for edgy until it's final.09:35
root__>.<09:35
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root__!xconfig09:36
ubotuxconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"09:36
root__oh, i typed dpkg -recon09:36
fdovingsoulrider: isn't the spanish translations included on the dapper livecd?09:36
soulridernope09:37
soulrideryou gotta install them09:37
intelikeyshould we tell root that he has other consoles he can use ?09:37
soulriderdownlaod and install09:37
soulriderbut i need a live CD thats in spanish09:37
fdovingthere must be atleast one. there are even livecds in norwegian. :)09:38
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scion!es09:38
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.09:38
soulriderfdoving: i cant seem to be bale to find a link09:38
soulriderreally? =/09:38
soulrideri must ahve missed it then09:38
fdovingsoulrider: did you try: 21:35 < fdoving> soulrider: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/debian.htm search for spanish.09:38
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fdovingbrb.. re-login to kde 3.5.5.09:39
soulrideri cant find where to search =/09:39
soulriderall i see is URL;s to the main sites09:39
TheGateKeepersoulrider: http://www.agnix.org/ <-- any good ???09:40
lithiumanyone knows if the spacing between maximize and close button can be removed (its the crystal window decoration)? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=17357&d=116058899009:40
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root__LOL09:40
intelikeyshould we tell root that he has other consoles he can use ?       tty's are accessed via alt+f# tty's one throught 6 are active by default.09:40
root__that xorg reconfigure09:40
soulriderthats  portuguese09:41
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root__is so hard09:41
root__i dunno what i did, just clicking where it looks like a default09:41
root__lol09:41
TheGateKeepersoulrider: damn it said spanish when I googled09:41
root__so now, restart pc?09:41
soulriderlooks like, but its not :P09:42
TheGateKeepersoulrider: use www.google.com/linux to search09:42
intelikeyroot no just init 209:42
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intelikeytoo late09:42
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ROBOdhello09:42
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ROBOdi want to get kde-35509:43
ROBOdwill kde-latest point to kde-355?09:43
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felixjetdamn it09:43
SeanTaterROBOd: Look here: http://www.kde.org/info/3.5.5.php09:43
felixjeti was that root user XD09:43
felixjetnow fixed :d09:43
felixjeti have big resolution09:43
ROBOdSeanTater: i know... but i don't want to change the repository each night09:43
ROBOd:)09:43
SeanTaterROBOd: better yet: Here http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php09:43
ROBOdSeanTater: yeah, i know09:44
ROBOdbut.....?09:44
ROBOddid you get my point? :)09:44
soulrider!es09:44
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.09:44
soulrideri better ask there :P09:44
MasterEvilAceis restarting X pretty much all that's needed after an apt upgrade to run the latest stuff? Aside from kernel updates which requires a restart (i think?).. what about videocard drivers as well?09:44
SeanTaterROBOd: Plan on compiling it then?09:44
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SeanTaterMasterEvilAce: I depends on "most things"09:45
SeanTaterMasterEvilAce:  It will use the new things like KDE 3.5.509:45
SeanTaterMasterEvilAce: and x drivers09:45
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SeanTaterMasterEvilAce: a great deal of programs do not even need that09:46
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MasterEvilAceSeanTater: i see i see09:46
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felixjetcan i modify /X11/xorg.conf addin lines that i have on a backup ?09:47
felixjetor manual modify will crash09:47
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MasterEvilAceyeah you can edit it09:47
SeanTaterfelixjet: sure, you can edit it] 09:47
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felixjetokey09:47
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SeanTaterfelixjet: but I would keep a backup of the current one anyway09:48
faLUCEhi09:48
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SeanTaterfaLUCE: gello09:48
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SeanTaterfaLUCE: g/h09:48
TheGateKeeperfelixjet: won't effect until you restartx09:48
intelikeyfelixjet it's only read when X starts.  also of note. you can have user specific configs in your home dir09:48
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TheGateKeeperfelixjet: won't take effect until you restartx  (grrr I can't type tonight)09:48
felixjeti found the problem !09:48
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felixjetSection "Monitor"09:49
felixjet  modeline  "640x480@60"09:49
felixjetonly that09:49
felixjetin my backup (the one i did while i have it broke)09:49
intelikeyyeah i'd say it needs some more modelines09:49
TheGateKeepercomment it out then09:49
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Martijn81anyone seen questions about /usr/lib/libfam.la in kde 3.5.5 here the last hours?09:50
TheGateKeeperignore me :-)09:50
zorglu_i have seen any09:50
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intelikeyjust yours Martijn8109:50
zorglu_have not09:50
felixjetsame as nvidia section, it showed just 640x48009:50
felixjetn_n09:50
fdovingMartijn81: what do you do to get it?09:50
yknottwhat is wrong with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?09:51
intelikeyyknott nothing09:51
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felixjetwhats the section DRI on xorg.conf? my backup file dont have it and the one i renerated now, does09:51
yknotto he just prefers to edit it manually09:51
Martijn81cool, because yesterday i installed the ( then non-official kde 3.5.5) which broke compiling of KTorrent. I wondered if this still was the case.09:51
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intelikeywell some people choose the simple method of monitor selection.  that shouldn't be an option....09:52
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fdovingMartijn81: libfam.la should be in libgamin-dev, shouldn't have anything to do with kde 3.5.5.09:53
intelikeyfelixjet dri =dirrect rendering interface   or something like that.    do you have nvidia or ati or something ?09:53
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felixjetyea, nvidia09:54
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felixjetbut in the backup file (the one broke that didnt let me start system) doesnt have it09:54
intelikeyusing nvidia or nv driver ?09:54
felixjetand the one i generate now, does09:54
Martijn81fdoving: well, dunno about that but something with that sed couldn't find /usr/lib/libfam.la anymore, and this was after this upgrade to 3.5.509:54
felixjetshould i keep that lines?09:54
intelikeyusing nvidia or nv driver ?09:54
felixjeti dunno09:54
felixjetwait09:54
intelikeyscroll up and see09:55
felixjetmmm09:55
felixjetGraphic card: nv09:55
fdovingMartijn81: should just be a matter of re-installing 'libgamin-dev' i guess.09:55
felixjetDriver: nvidia09:55
felixjetxD09:55
intelikeythen dri will be ignored anyway09:55
felixjetokey09:55
Martijn81fdoving: could be, but i have already reinstalled the whole system (we needed anyways)09:55
Martijn81*was09:55
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felixjetbtw the irc client on the shell is so annoying, the one who developed it should be killed09:57
felixjetXD09:57
Martijn81ah well, i'll wait a while to be sure, don't have the time to troubleshoot at the moment09:57
fdovingfelixjet: what irc client? epic or ircII ?09:57
felixjetjust "irc"09:57
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intelikeyfelixjet that's alsmost my openion of the default irssi  ?09:58
felixjeti typed it in the console from recovery mode09:58
felixjetyes09:58
felixjetis irssi09:58
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fdovingirssi is so nice :)09:58
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fdovingbest client of them all :)09:59
felixjetbut so annoying when u run it in 640x48009:59
intelikeyyou can have it fdoving.  i'll stick with bx09:59
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fdovingi used bx before too.09:59
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intelikeydon't get me wrong.  i can use irssi  but i have to reconfigure it first  :)10:00
zorglu_konqueror has this nice osd when somebody talk to me... very usefull. the first time i see that in a irc client10:00
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tsdgeoszorglu_: konversation ;-)10:00
zorglu_yep this one :)10:00
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bhargav_im having a bit of trouble with updates guys10:00
intelikeyerror ?10:01
bhargav_just did a fresh install, but none of the respositories seem to work10:01
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bhargav_no error10:01
intelikey!repos10:01
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu10:01
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intelikeyread the page ^10:01
B-Minus_hey all10:01
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intelikeywb b-10:02
B-Minus_im reading a tutorial to install citrix ica client10:02
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B-Minus_first step it says is Install libmotif3 (Be sure you have Multiverse enabled, you can do this in Synaptic)10:02
B-Minus_i really cant see libmotif3 in adept :(10:02
B-Minus_even with multiverse10:02
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intelikeytty2 [greg@~]  q libmotif10:03
intelikeylibmotif-dev - Open Motif - development files10:03
intelikeylibmotif3 - Open Motif - shared libraries10:03
fdoving!info libmotif310:03
ubotulibmotif3: Open Motif - shared libraries. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2.2.3-1.2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1197 kB, installed size 3004 kB10:03
B-Minus_wtf10:03
B-Minus_then i have bad repositeries ?10:03
intelikeyseems to be there.10:03
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B-Minus_cause the windows fonts . msttcore or something i cant see either10:03
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jdawizearlier somebody had posted the code of conduct for this chat ... could one of you post it again.10:04
B-Minus_can i have your repositery url please10:04
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fdoving!repos10:04
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu10:04
B-Minus_for multiverse10:04
B-Minus_ok10:04
intelikeyB-Minus_ want to put up your sources.list on the pastebin ?10:04
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B-Minus_url of pastebin please10:05
intelikey!paste10:05
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:05
intelikeyit's also in the topic10:05
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B-Minus_ok10:05
roconnoris there someway to get the audio in Firefox's flash to not cut out everytime some other application beeps?10:05
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intelikeyroconnor turn the beeping things off ?10:06
bhargav_THere was an error commiting changes, possibly there was a problem downloading some packages10:06
bhargav_this is what i get when i do fetch updates10:06
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bhargav_using the live cd when  u press fetch updates it will show u a 100% on diff urls10:07
intelikeyroconnor seriously tho  maybe try alsa in place of arts for the output10:07
bhargav_but this will nto show anything10:07
B-Minus_intelikey: its over here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26357/10:07
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intelikeyB-Minus_ no multiverse.    add the word 'multiverse to line 6 & 7   then save and  do an update10:09
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B-Minus_ok tnx10:09
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B-Minus_hmm10:10
intelikeyB-Minus_   i mean lines  2 6 & 710:10
B-Minus_but10:10
intelikeyalso add universe to line 210:10
B-Minus_what about line 26 2710:10
B-Minus_there is multiverse10:10
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intelikey26 is backports10:11
intelikeyeeek 2 is src  make that 1 in place of 210:11
B-Minus_so what lines to i need to add it to10:11
B-Minus_lol10:11
B-Minus_:p10:11
intelikey1 6 710:11
B-Minus_you sure10:11
bhargav_ugh anyone have a solution to my prob10:11
bhargav_its a fresh install dunno why it would be doing this10:12
draikIs anyone having an issue saving bookmarks in firefox? I can't seem to keep them there after a reboot10:12
intelikeymake em say;   deb http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse10:12
B-Minus_ok tnx10:12
intelikeythat's line 1 of course.10:12
roconnorintelikey: Is there a way of adjusting the output for flash?10:12
roconnorprobably not considering flash's nature10:12
roconnorthanks anyways10:12
B-Minus_so line 1 6 710:13
B-Minus_but 7 is also src10:13
intelikeyyep wont hurt to do line 2 also.if you use any source code10:13
intelikeybut you probably dont.10:13
B-Minus_no10:13
intelikeyroconnor idk.  i don't do flash java or windows10:14
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B-Minus_but i read multiverse means not free10:14
B-Minus_it that true10:14
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intelikeyB-Minus_ means there is some code in it that is not GNU10:14
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intelikeymay be under other licenses  not GNU-GPL'd10:15
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B-Minus_i see10:15
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dennisterhi again: trying to do some research this time10:16
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gogetahi guys10:17
dennisteris there a newbie or someone with a fresh installation in here tonight?10:17
B-Minus_tnx10:17
gogetaanyone knoe of a good temp monoter10:17
dennistersomeone without any video installed yet?10:17
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gogetafrends pc might be overheating the cpu10:17
B-Minus_intelikey: tnx but i cant seem to say something back in private10:18
B-Minus_i need to register i guess10:18
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intelikey!regester B-Minus_10:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about regester B-Minus_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:18
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intelikey!regester > B-Minus_10:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about regester - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:18
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fdoving!register > b-minus_10:18
fdoving:)10:18
intelikeyyeah !register > B-Minus_10:18
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bhargav_dennister10:19
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bhargav_i did a fresh install about 10 mins ago10:19
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dennistergreat! can u do a search for bttv,ko and msp3400.ko pls?10:19
B-Minus_!register10:19
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration10:19
bhargav_yeah one sec10:19
dennistersee if either are part of regular install10:19
fdovingdennister: linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic: /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/media/video/bt8xx/bttv.ko10:20
fdovingit's in edgy atleast.10:20
bhargav_im on dapper10:20
bhargav_searching now10:20
dennisterok...thx bhargav_10:20
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lecciis possible that my pc daesn't have the library math.h? How can i find it?10:20
dennisteryeah, i need to know if they're standard with dapper10:21
fdovinglecci: install the package 'libc6-dev'10:21
leccity10:21
bhargav_bttv.ko not found10:22
justaguyUpgraded synaptic crashes?10:22
dennisterk...that's one10:22
bhargav_msp3400.ko found10:22
leccii have already install the package libc6-dev10:22
bhargav_in /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/media/video/10:22
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fdovinglecci: then you have it. it's at /usr/include/math.h10:23
dennisterk...now i need to find out why i have bttv here :-)10:23
leccia moment..10:23
bhargav_hehe10:23
bhargav_i can't upgrade !!!10:23
bhargav_someone wanna help me real quick10:23
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jdawizgogeta --   most temperature sensor software that I have found is hardware specific.  Could you give motherboard info please10:23
intelikey/var/lib/dpkg/info/libc6-dev.list:/usr/include/math.h10:23
dennisteri was trying so hard with the ivtv drivers last weekend, and i read that msp was standard, but they sometimes conflict with bttv10:24
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bhargav_There was an error downloading updates10:24
intelikeybhargav_ error ?10:25
justaguyI ran into that error a couple times today10:25
bhargav_no error10:25
justaguy...downloading updates10:25
bhargav_when i press fetch updates10:25
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bhargav_it does not show anything10:25
dennisterthe updates need some input from u today10:25
dennisterwait10:25
intelikeybhargav_ don't press.   open the konsole and type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:26
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dennisteri'm checking my last dpkg run10:26
menaceon ktorrent. why do files stall if theres still peers to give you the files?10:27
bhargav_Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)10:27
bhargav_everything is closed btw10:27
bhargav_nothing is running10:27
zorglu_!adept crash fix10:27
ubotuIf adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'10:27
|lostbyte|menace:  Cause the peers who have the file, dnt have that  part of the file.10:27
menaceno, it says that all of the file is available10:27
intelikeysudo dpkg --configure -a10:28
intelikeyand try again10:28
zorglu_menace: you got snubbed :)10:28
menacewhats snubbed?10:28
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zorglu_menace: well quite hard to explain the bt protocol here10:28
bhargav_same error still10:28
zorglu_menace: but it may be normal not to get download even if it is available10:29
menaceok10:29
intelikeythen something is still running   adept ?10:29
menaceits downloading all files so slow...its annoying10:29
menaceis there a way to speed up the downloads? ...i noticed i dont have DHT enabled...but i dont know what DHT is10:29
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zorglu_menace: enabling the dht may give you more peers so may improve your download speed10:30
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menacewhat should my UDP port be?10:31
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dennistermenace: dht is a distributed tracker10:31
zorglu_dunno, look at your configuration10:31
bhargav_yeah same error guys10:31
bhargav_nothing is using adept10:31
intelikeythen something is still running  synaptic?10:31
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dennisterit's normal to use dht10:32
mikkineed help with xgl, have installed it but wont worke10:32
bhargav_k got it10:32
bhargav_i get this10:32
intelikeyyou don't get a can't lock dir message after a   sudo dpkg --configure -a    unless something is using dpkg10:32
bhargav_Failed to fetch http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Connection failed10:32
bhargav_Failed to fetch http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/main/source/Sources.gz  Connection failed10:32
bhargav_Failed to fetch http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/restricted/source/Sources.gz  Connection failed10:32
bhargav_Failed to fetch http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/universe/source/Sources.gz  Connection failed10:32
bhargav_Failed to fetch http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  Connection failed10:32
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bhargav_Reading package lists... Done10:32
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intelikeybhargav_ drop the pl.  and re try10:33
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bhargav_ok10:33
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fdoving!pastebin10:33
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:33
fdoving^^ is nice.10:33
felixjet!obotu10:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about obotu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:33
felixjet!ubotu10:33
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage10:33
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felixjetxD10:33
felixjethajasjassja10:33
bhargav_Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  Connection failed [IP: 195.248.90.23 80] 10:34
menaceso how do i get snubbed? or is that a bad thing?10:34
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zorglu_menace: no it is normal. and you didnt do anything special10:34
menacebut im not snubbed on hardly any peers10:34
intelikeybhargav_ hmmmm   ;/10:34
bhargav_i know10:34
bhargav_this is a strange problem10:35
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intelikeytry the nl. server for the backports10:35
bhargav_i dought it will work10:35
felixjet!microsoft10:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about microsoft - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:35
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bhargav_i even tried third party10:35
felixjetXDDD10:35
luis_lopezHi, is there going to be a Kubuntu Certification the same way as there is a Ubuntu Certification (http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/certification/pro)?10:35
felixjetmicro what?10:35
felixjetlol10:35
bhargav_haha10:35
felixjet!windows10:35
ubotuFor help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm10:35
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bhargav_how can i reset the keys ?10:36
dennisterbhargav_: the others helping u are more knowledgeable than I, but I've found clearing bad installs out of the packagers' cache often helps10:36
felixjetXD10:36
felixjetok i stop10:36
menaceso its bad to not be snubbed?10:36
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intelikeybhargav humour me    try the nl. server for the backports10:36
dennisterits an idea, anyway, perhaps the more senior pps can comment on the idea?10:36
bhargav_how do i clear the cache10:36
bhargav_ok10:36
bhargav_one sec10:36
dennistermenace: no it's not bad to be snubbed10:36
menacei said "not to be snubbed" dennister10:37
june_how do i set up a linux box to share its printer through samba?10:37
dennistersorry10:37
zorglu_menace: hehe you seems to have trouble with that :) 'snubbed' is a 'technical term' of bittorrent. dont focus on it10:37
menacek10:37
bhargav_Err http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/restricted Sources10:37
bhargav_  Connection failed [IP: 213.136.29.196 80] 10:37
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intelikeybhargav_ and doing a  sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/*   could help       not I not i  L nl10:38
dennisterbhargav_: to clear cache u navigate to the packager's cache and remove the offending install10:38
dennisterexactly...listen to intelikey10:38
zorglu_menace: to improve your download speed, ensure you get as many peer as possible,  aka enable dht, peer exhcange, be sure to be reachable by other (port opening) and you are done10:38
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zorglu_menace: #bittorrent may help you on this10:38
bhargav_sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/*10:39
bhargav_no such file10:39
intelikeybhargav_ then it's clean.10:39
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bhargav_yeah10:39
bhargav_i figured10:39
menacek thanks zorglu10:40
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intelikeybhargav_ only thing i can tell you is just comment out the multiverse word on the backports line    i have see the servers do this before but i don't know what causes it.10:41
intelikeyit should be back to normal in a day or two10:41
bhargav_Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/source/Sources.gz  Connection failed [IP: 195.248.90.23 80] 10:42
bhargav_still failing10:42
intelikeybhargav_ maybe the backports section is on a MS server  hehhe10:42
bhargav_rotfl10:42
bhargav_haha10:42
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bhargav_this was a clean install man10:43
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bhargav_should not happen on a clean install10:43
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intelikeybhargav_ TOD may affect.  you could have caught them in the middle of a server update...   and i agree. it should not.10:44
bhargav_so it might work tommo ?10:45
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bhargav_since i been getting this problem yesterday also10:45
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intelikeybhargav_ try just lding a file from some place with wget and see if your network is the reason10:45
bhargav_and i mean i did a FRESH install today to see if the problem would go away10:45
bhargav_one sec10:45
intelikeywget  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/source/Sources.gz10:45
menaceok, i just tryed to open adept. and when it asks me for my password i type it in...but it says that conversation with su failed...how can i fix this?10:46
bhargav_wget works10:46
bhargav_i just got the http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/source/Sources.gz10:46
intelikeyso try the update again.10:46
intelikeysee if it fails there ?10:46
bhargav_failed10:46
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bhargav_lol10:47
bhargav_i think this build has a problem10:47
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bhargav_ill try to redownload another build10:47
intelikeyok that's not a server issue that's an internal problem10:47
bhargav_yea10:47
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intelikeycheck malone for info on that10:47
red_ubotu ati10:47
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:47
intelikeyif there isn't any report it.10:47
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intelikeybhargav_ what build/release is that ?10:48
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intelikeydpkg --version10:49
intelikeyDebian GNU/Linux `dpkg' package management program version 1.13.11 (i386).10:49
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bhargav_same as u10:50
june_!samba10:50
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT10:50
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intelikeyapt-get  --version10:51
intelikeyapt 0.6.43.3ubuntu2 for linux i386 compiled on Apr 18 2006 19:46:3810:51
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intelikeysame ?10:51
bhargav_apt 0.6.43.3ubuntu2 for linux i386 compiled on Apr 18 2006 19:46:3810:51
bhargav_yup10:51
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bhargav_haha i know10:52
bhargav_i rarely go ask for help10:52
bhargav_first time10:52
jhutchins_wkHow do I query apt to see if a paclage is installer already?10:52
felixjetjust install it10:52
felixjetand if u have it, apt-get wont let you install it10:53
intelikeybhargav_ for the record.  those hard questions rarely get resolved in here.10:53
intelikeybhargav_ can you send me your /var/log/dpkg.log10:54
bhargav_one sec10:54
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jhutchins_wkWhat if I don't want to install it, I want to see if it's installed.  Maybe it's causing trouble.10:56
felixjetwell, dunno how to do in console mode10:56
jhutchins_wkOr what if I want to verify that all the parts of the package are still intact?10:56
felixjetbut with interface, open adept10:56
felixjetand search for it10:56
intelikeyjhutchins_wk to list packages   dpkg -l | less10:56
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felixjetor use apt-get --help10:56
felixjet:)10:57
flakehowdy, i finally found out how to manually activate my wireless network card..10:57
jhutchins_wkintelikey: Perhaps dpkg -l package might work?10:57
intelikeyrun aptitiude10:57
HawkwindOr use the graphical Adept :P10:57
flake  /sbin/ifup eth110:57
Hawkwindjhutchins_wk: Yes, dpkg -l <package>10:57
flakeand  /sbin/ifdown eth1 to bring down10:57
flakenow to figure out how to make an autoexec.bat file10:57
intelikeymore than one way to get to dpkg10:57
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intelikeybut all .deb's lead to dpkg10:58
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bhargav_intelikey10:59
bhargav_accept10:59
intelikeyno offers10:59
bhargav_wahhhh10:59
bhargav_i sent it10:59
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intelikey       OIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII[dcc transfer stats] IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII,11:00
intelikey       [xferd in] -[xferd out] [total files] [active] [limit] 11:00
intelikey         0.00bytes   922.00byte              1         0        5 11:00
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intelikeya lot is lost in the translation there  but it says nothing recieved and no offers    also auto accept is on11:02
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intelikeyerr autoget11:02
intelikeyautoget:  On11:02
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bhargav_i dunno man11:02
bhargav_forget it for now11:03
bhargav_im gonna try one more fresh install11:03
bhargav_with the latest build on the site11:03
intelikeyk11:03
intelikeyedgy ?11:03
bhargav_dapper11:03
bhargav_whats good about edgy ?11:03
bipolarexit11:03
intelikeythat will be what you have.  i'm uptodate11:03
bipolarhahaha11:03
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intelikeyupdated about an hour ago11:04
bhargav_edgy is the latest ?11:04
Hawkwindbhargav_: It's still not final yet11:04
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intelikeyyeah  it's two weeks from the official release11:04
bhargav_im so lost in this right now... med school is killing me11:04
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Hawkwindbhargav_: Won't be for another 2 weeks. So Dapper is the latest stable11:04
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intelikeyReading package lists... Done11:05
intelikeyok 111:05
intelikey0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.11:05
intelikeyok 211:05
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intelikeythat's scripted   the first is  apt-get update the second is apt-get dist-upgrade11:06
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joe_intelikey: :'|11:09
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intelikeyjoe_11:09
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inteliwasphas anyone heard of "XFree86-DRI"  ?11:11
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intelikeyinteliwasp just now.11:12
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intelikeyi'm irc'ing in the wrong tty  back in a bit  (maybe)11:14
inteliwaspwell my computer for some stupid reason needs that to use my videocard acceleration11:14
Hawkwindinteliwasp: What video card ?11:15
inteliwaspati radeon 850011:15
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inteliwaspit is aiw but i done use that...11:16
HawkwindHave you followed the ATI instructions at all ?11:16
Hawkwind!ati11:16
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:16
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obf213can you fax using ethernet11:17
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inteliwaspHawkwind:  I used this page:  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide11:18
Hawkwindinteliwasp: Read the URL above11:18
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bomberi was wondering if anyone knows how to force a 32 bit install from the dual arch dvd?11:19
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orkid__boot the 32bit kernel? :|11:19
bomberyes indeed11:20
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enz0hanyone know of any install issues with the Edgy beta desktop CD?  I'm in it right now but the install to HDD app is hanging11:24
sonyoandreasStop doing what you do right now! Instead do this: 1. quit your job.  2. go to http://www.milliondollarscience.com   3. start making some freakin' money!   4 get filthy rich within 12 months!11:24
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inteliwaspHawkwind:  now all i need to do is to reboot and login X remotely...11:24
TheGateKeeper!java > thegatekeeper11:26
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inteliwasp!laptop11:29
ubotuLaptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org11:29
david_hi?11:29
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david_hi!11:31
dec_hello, has anyone had problems (blocky picture) when using gnomebaker11:32
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dec_hello, has anyone had problems (blocky picture) when using gnomebaker's copy feature11:33
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dec_hello, has anyone had problems (blocky picture) when using gnomebaker's copy feature11:35
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intelikeydec_ seeing that gnomebaker is a gnome app maybe you should ask in #buuntu   most people in here will be using k3b11:35
obf213!fax11:35
intelikey#ubuntu11:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fax - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:36
obf213what is the best program to use to fax11:36
intelikeykfax ?11:36
lotusleafI'm running Edgy (I know I'm in #ubuntu+1 thanks anyway) and is there any advantage to adding kubuntu.org sources when I've already installed kde 3.5.5 via the ubuntu.com sources? Are there any differences between kubuntu from ubuntu.com sources and kubuntu.org sources?11:36
intelikeyapt-cache search fax11:36
intelikeylotusleaf i wouldn't think so11:37
lotusleafintelikey: thanks! So why, then, do two repos exist for the same thing?11:37
lotusleafintelikey: just a different packager(s)?11:37
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intelikeylotusleaf there are many repos  google search will attest to that.   the kde repo and the ubuntu repos both have kde in them but there isn't a kernel in the kde repo  it's all about what is where and how to find it.   yes many repetes and slight version/sub-version differances.11:42
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lotusleafintelikey: thanks I know there are tons of repos, I was just curious about Ubuntu *official* repos with KDE, thanks ;)11:43
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lotusleafintelikey: I know that sometimes kubuntu.org has newer versions of amaroK and such that ubuntu.com repos does not.. ok I guess there's no big difference thx11:43
intelikeyany time lotusleaf11:44
intelikeyany time11:44
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obf213wht does purging on adept do11:46
obf213does it actually remove the packages11:46
obf213or removes the item from the list in the repository11:46
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surabachican ihave help with kxdocker?11:47
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claydohit uninstalls the package and also any config files as well11:47
surabachianyone good with terminal error messages?11:48
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intelikeyobf213 purge means remove the package and its config files  while remove means only removing the the package not the configs.11:49
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intelikeysurabachi post or pastebin it11:49
claydohyou can put the error here and may be able to help, if it is a long paste, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11:49
intelikeyif it's one line post here11:49
surabachiintelikey: ok hold on a sec11:49
claydohlol not fast enough, am I?11:49
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intelikeyclaydoh sure11:50
intelikeycompliment don't compete11:50
claydohyou're not supposed to agree with me :P11:50
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intelikey:)11:50
surabachiintelikey: ok go here: http://pastebin.ca/19829911:51
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surabachiintelikey: after i install kxdocker from the repos i try and run it in terminal and get tat error11:51
surabachihttp://pastebin.ca/19829911:52
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surabachiintelikey: any ideas?11:53
intelikeysurabachi you are talking about the konsole terminal  not the   console tty virtual terminal   ?11:53
surabachiintelikey: yes i am talking about konsole11:53
intelikeysurabachi hmmm thinking11:53
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surabachiintelikey:  if it helps i am on kubuntu edgy11:54
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intelikeywell the error message says  "please install right kxdocker_conf.xml"    do a search for that file and see what you find11:55
intelikeyfind /usr -name kxdocker_conf.xml11:55
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intelikeyi'd say it's missing a config file.11:56
claydohyou might want to check if the package kxdocker-data is installed as well (I would assume it would automatically be installed11:56
surabachiyes it is11:57
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intelikeyyou can also do a  dpkg -L kxdocker-data | grep kxdocker_conf.xml      to see if it's supposed to be there11:57
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surabachiactually it seems the data one wasnt installed11:58
bhargavguys the issue has been resolved11:58
intelikeyor dpkg -L kxdocker | grep kxdocker_conf.xml11:58
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bhargavspi firewall on the router's new frimware was causing the problem11:58
intelikeybhargav yep.  there you go.11:58
bhargavhow does apt-get get updates ?11:59
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bhargavwhat protocol ?11:59
surabachiintelikey: i installed the data kxdocker buut it didnt fix the error11:59
intelikeyftp i think11:59
intelikeybut don't quote me on it11:59
bhargavdunno why spi would block it then11:59
bhargavthats super strange11:59
surabachianymore ideas?11:59
intelikeysurabachi do the two commands ^ ?11:59
TheGateKeeperknow a cli command to list the updates?11:59
surabachii missed the commands u gave me sorry12:00
surabachiwhat were they?12:00
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intelikeyTheGateKeeper sudo apt-get upgrade12:00
visik7kde 3.5.5 for dapper wants to remove kdelibs-bin12:00
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intelikey dpkg -L kxdocker | grep kxdocker_conf.xml   &&   dpkg -L kxdocker-data | grep kxdocker_conf.xml12:00
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intelikeysurabachi ^12:01
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surabachiintelikey: ok thhose two commands gave me this http://pastebin.ca/19831012:01
intelikeyif either list the file check and see if it's there surabachi12:02
intelikeyyep ls it12:02
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surabachiook, it lists a file shoulld i go digging for it?12:03
intelikeysurabachi ls -l  /usr/share/apps/kxdocker/kxdocker_conf.xml12:03
TheGateKeeperintelikey: sudo apt-get -u upgrade <--- that seems to be it, thanx anyway :-)12:03
intelikeynot blank is it ?12:03
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visik7kde 3.5.5 for dapper hasn't kdelibs-bin  kdelibs-bin !! WTF ?12:03
surabachiintelikey: um i got this12:03
surabachimike@mike-desktop:~$ ls -l  /usr/share/apps/kxdocker/kxdocker_conf.xml12:03
surabachi-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2006-08-16 19:36 /usr/share/apps/kxdocker/kxdocker_conf.xml12:03
surabachimike@mike-desktop:~$12:03
surabachiwhast that mean intelikey?12:04
intelikeyTheGateKeeper not sure what you wanted.  without the -u will list them and ask if you wish to install them or not.12:04
intelikeysurabachi eeek yep it's blank12:04
intelikey0 bites12:04
surabachiintelikey:  so how do i fix it?12:04
TheGateKeeperintelikey: I just wanted one to list them12:05
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intelikeyso you need to reinstall kdocker   with  " sudo dpkg --reinstall /var/cache/apt/archives/kdocker* "   i guess.12:06
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intelikeyif that flys.  not sure the switch is correct. then ls the file again.12:06
surabachiintelikey:  with the * at the end of that command?12:07
intelikeysee if it's still empty12:07
intelikeyyes with the  *12:07
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surabachiintelikey: i got somethign strange, i will pastebin it12:07
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TheGateKeeperintelikey: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade <--- they tell me you should do this, then you can go back to a previous version if there is a problem12:08
surabachiintelikey: http://pastebin.ca/19832012:08
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surabachiintelikey:  u get that?12:09
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claydohtry sudo apt-get install --reinstall kxdocker-data12:09
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visik7anyone have tried kde3.5.5 on dapper ?12:10
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surabachimike@mike-desktop:~$ try sudo apt-get install --reinstall kxdocker-data12:10
surabachibash: try: command not found12:10
surabachimike@mike-desktop:~$12:10
visik7ahahahhaha12:11
visik7OMFG12:11
intelikeysurabachi yea i was checking the syntax.  try this insted   " sudo apt-get --reinstall kdocker kdocker-data12:11
surabachijust data not the kxdocker too12:11
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intelikeysudo apt-get install --reinstall kdocker kdocker-data12:12
surabachiits kxdocker by the way not kdocker12:12
intelikeyis the "install" needed when you use the "--reinstall" ???12:12
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intelikeyyeah spell it right12:12
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intelikey:)12:12
surabachilol12:12
surabachiintelikey:12:13
surabachimike@mike-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get --reinstall kxdocker kxdocker-data12:13
surabachiE: Invalid operation kxdocker12:13
surabachimike@mike-desktop:~$12:13
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