[12:14] <thunderstorm> can someone help me with the "tar"-command?
[12:15] <gnomefreak> thunderstorm: what about it
[12:16] <thunderstorm> if i use the "tar cvfz" command, the file contains the owner and access-rights?
[12:16] <thunderstorm> is that correct?
[12:17] <gnomefreak> thunderstorm: i dont understand. the tar shouldnt have any permissions on it other than read and write all.
[12:17] <thunderstorm> hm, my english is not so good ;-)
[12:17] <gnomefreak> any user should beable to untar a package
[12:18] <thunderstorm> ok, otherwise: when i unpack these tgz-file, the restored files have all permissions and owner rights?
[12:18] <larson9999> linux rocks!
[12:19] <method|> how can i get k3b to allow me to burn a cd without sudoing?
[12:19] <gnomefreak> thunderstorm: it depends on what files are in it
[12:19] <Hawkwind> thunderstorm: They have the owner/perms of the user you untarred them as
[12:19] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: the make install file in tars have a permission set for sudo
[12:19] <gzevspero> Hi, I'd like to install winxp, win vista, and kubuntu on the same computer. Can this be done, and if so, how would I partition the 2 drives and in which order would I install the OS's?
[12:20] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Huh ?
[12:20] <gnomefreak> if its just pictures or themes anyone should beable to run it
[12:20] <thunderstorm> ok, but when i archive an file have 777, have this file these rights after unzip?
[12:20] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Not here they don't
[12:20] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: If you untar the file as normal user, then all files have normal user perms
[12:20] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: to compile a tar you need to use sudo make install you cant just use make install
[12:20] <Hawkwind> thunderstorm: Yes
[12:20] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Not necessarily
[12:20] <gnomefreak> yes
[12:21] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: I have tons and tons of files that make install can be done as normal user
[12:21] <gnomefreak> i havent yet seen it or it can but it will screw up permissions app wide
[12:21] <larson9999> depends one whether you want to install them locally or not
[12:21] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: That is not correct
[12:21] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: There are millions of things that can be installed without sudo using make install. Firefox is a prime example of this
[12:22] <thunderstorm> Hawkwind & gnomefreak: thank you - i dont must give an specific parameter for tar
[12:22] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: firefox isnt compiled like most apps
[12:22] <gnomefreak> all you do it untar it
[12:22] <gnomefreak> and move it around
[12:23] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: if you notice anything that has a make file sudo make install is used
[12:23] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Half of E17 happens to be built without using sudo actually
[12:23] <gnomefreak> FF and TB are differnet
[12:23] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: No it's not
[12:23] <Hawkwind> LOL
[12:23] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Do a checkout of CVS for E17 and specifically look in e/e_modules
[12:24] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: cvs is differnret
[12:24] <Hawkwind> You can actually install anything that you compile using make install and not sudo, anything
[12:24] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: tar not cvs or svn
[12:24] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Any of it
[12:24] <ubuntu_> guys i have an emergency and i need help please :( i was on windows and i deleted my linux partitions to make more space but now GRUB still starts and i cant get into windows because it errors out. i am on the linux livecd right now :(
[12:24] <Hawkwind> It doesn't matter. You use sudo to install it globally.  If you don't use sudo you install it as that user and only that user can run that app
[12:24] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: so the guides tell you to use sudo because they have nothing better to do?
[12:25] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: They tell you to use sudo so that it's installed globally so that any user on the system can run it
[12:25] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: yes but again that diesnt give app wide permissions as i stated
[12:25] <Hawkwind> I've done packaging for a few years now, and can prove this
[12:25] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: What do you mean by 'wide permissions'  ??
[12:25] <gnomefreak> app wide =global
[12:26] <gnomefreak> anyone can run the app
[12:26] <gnomefreak> sorry if that was confusing you
[12:26] <Hawkwind> Right, if you use sudo.  If you just do make install then only the user who performed it can run it and no one else
[12:26] <Hawkwind> There is nothing out there that can't be installed using just make install.  The make files do not have root perms/ownership
[12:26] <helpplz> guys i have an emergency and i need help please :( i was on windows and i deleted my linux partitions to make more space but now GRUB still starts and i cant get into windows because it errors out. i am on the linux livecd right now :(
[12:27] <gnomefreak> helpplz: more than likely its not recoverable since you deleted part sof a partition
[12:27] <Hawkwind> helpplz: Did you actually delete the partition with the information on it, as in, is the information gone ?
[12:27] <helpplz> what i am asking is how to delete GRUB or simply get into my windows
[12:28] <helpplz> =\
[12:28] <helpplz> not to recover the linux
[12:28] <gnomefreak> helpplz: in a windows recovery console type fixmbr
[12:28] <Hawkwind> helpplz: Boot the Windows CD, and run fixmbr or fdisk, whatever it is that OS uses
[12:29] <helpplz> hmm windows recovery console? my recovery thing is in a FAT32 partition, stupid gateway
[12:29] <helpplz> all i can do is get into BIOS system utilities, etc
[12:29] <gnomefreak> helpplz: boot windows cd adn choose recover broken windows
[12:29] <helpplz> i dont have a windows cd though
[12:29] <gnomefreak> or whatever its called
[12:29] <helpplz> hmm
[12:30] <helpplz> ill check if i can boot that partition through the bios
[12:30] <helpplz> thanx
[12:30] <gnomefreak> well than i hope you didnt screw with anything on windows partition including grub if its on the windows drive
[12:30] <helpplz> i didnt touch anything on the windows partitions, i just deleted the linux partitions and used the unallocated space to make my windows partition bigger...
[12:30] <helpplz> =\
[12:30] <gnomefreak> or like grub,win1,win2,ubuntu1,ubuntu5
[12:31] <gnomefreak> im not sure if parted will help with mbr or not
[12:31] <helpplz> hm
[12:31] <gnomefreak> if it does than you should beable to run parted from livecd
[12:32] <gnomefreak> brb reboot
[12:32] <helpplz> k
[12:33] <fred_> fdfsd
[12:37] <Max_-> some software needs libatk1.0-0 to run... I loaded libatk1.0-dev ... now it still says I need libatk1.0-1 .. so I searched.. found the deb package.. but I cant Install it, it says I already have newer version... even if I apt-get remove the 1.0-dev one!!.. how can I do???
[12:42] <mabreaux> hello all
[12:45] <grasmeer> Hi! Anyone who had installed the updates today? Are they working or will the system hang?
[12:46] <fred_> which one ?
[12:46] <mabreaux> no updates for me today
[12:47] <SkuggiG> just now noticed that there were some updates
[12:48] <fred_> linux-restricted-modules ?
[12:48] <SkuggiG> just some stuff to python and cpio from dapper-security
[12:49] <fred_> aah ok
[12:49] <grasmeer> 87 updates, but just updated the system three (4?) days ago...
[12:49] <grasmeer> restricted modules, lib*, sudo, kmail, bla bla...
[12:50] <fred_> did u install edgy ?
[12:50] <grasmeer> edgy eft...
[12:51] <fred_> yep :-) don't know what it means
[12:51] <grasmeer> what: dont know...?
[12:51] <ricanelite> can someone help me out, New to Ubuntu Linux
[12:51] <grasmeer> perhaps...
[12:52] <fred_> edgy eft
[12:52] <ricanelite> I'm trying to change my Desktop Icons text, right now they are in White but will like to change them to black
[12:54] <ricanelite> can anyone help me please
[12:54] <brahmamurti> you have icons on your desktop?
[12:55] <grasmeer> sorry, no idea, perhaps: apperarance, style...
[12:55] <grasmeer> Updates?
[12:55] <fred_> may be "system settings" -> appearence -> fonts
[12:57] <method|> anybody got aiglx+beryl installed on their systems?
[01:08] <ricanelite> is it possible to put the KDE Trash bin in the Desktop?
[01:09] <apokryphos> ricanelite: http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#showtrash
[01:09] <SkuggiG> umm... should be
[01:09] <knubbe> where do i find kde control center?
[01:09] <apokryphos> knubbe: Kubuntu uses KDE System Settings as opposed to KControl
[01:10] <apokryphos> but kcontrol is still accessible via alt+f2 -> kcontrol
[01:10] <knubbe> ah, ok
[01:11] <knubbe> thanks.
[01:11] <knubbe> thats where i set my default programs? default email client and so on...?
[01:15] <Hawkwind> !mp3 > bomber
[01:15] <FaLc[ON] 2> ciao ragazzi potete darmi un aiuto con kdevelop?
[01:16] <bomber> !mp3
[01:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:18] <VanessaE> evening all
[01:19] <KrAmMeR__> i am having trouble installing new kdm themes...
[01:19] <Hawkwind> bomber: When I did !mp3 > bomber it should have sent you that info in pm
[01:21] <bomber> yes i got it... thanks
[01:23] <KrAmMeR__> !kdm
[01:23] <ubotu> kdm: X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 600 kB, installed size 1468 kB
[01:24] <Hawkwind> !kdmthemes > KrAmMeR__
[01:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdmthemes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:24] <Hawkwind> !kdmtheme > KrAmMeR__
[01:25] <highLighter> how do I connect to a server?
[01:26] <LjL> telnet hostname port
[01:27] <bomber> Hawkwind:  seems like a project
[01:27] <KrAmMeR__> i know i have it in the write place
[01:27] <KrAmMeR__> right*
[01:27] <arepie> !howto
[01:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about howto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:28] <menace> hi everyone
[01:29] <bomber> Hawkwind: whats synaptic package manager?
[01:29] <LjL> !synaptic
[01:29] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[01:29] <rojikaru> Dr Willis
[01:30] <rojikaru> Someone of equal knowledge.
[01:30] <menace> I am in need of two programs. which i was hoping someone here would know something like them. i need an XISO program, like craxtion. and a nice FTP program like smartFTP. does anyone have any ideas on equivalent programs?
[01:33] <menace> anyone?
[01:33] <Hawkwind> menace: kftpgrabber, kbear, gftp, and many many more
[01:33] <Hawkwind> menace: The other one you mentioned must be Windows stuff and I haven't touched Windows in 5 years so I have no idea what they are
[01:34] <menace> ok thanks
[01:34] <menace> whats your favorite ftp program?
[01:34] <rojikaru> FTP IS NOT GOOD.
[01:34] <VanessaE> opera. :)
[01:34] <rojikaru> ssh is the better choice sercurity wise.
[01:35] <bomber> menace an xiso program meaning a graphical burning program?
[01:35] <menace> im FTP'ing to my xbox rojikaru
[01:35] <menace> yes...www.craxtion.com
[01:35] <menace> like that
[01:35] <bomber> gftp is awesome
[01:35] <rojikaru> Why are you ftping to your Xbox? You putting roms on there?
[01:35] <arepie> i've installed fglrx driver, and, OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org <-- it should be ATI Technologies Inc. rite?
[01:35] <halcon_> irc hispano
[01:35] <menace> nope
[01:35] <menace> !es
[01:35] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:36] <menace> rojikaru: im backing up my xbox games.
[01:36] <Hawkwind> menace: I don't use FTP programs, but you can use sftp:// in konqueror
[01:36] <menace> ok thanks
[01:36] <Hawkwind> menace: For burning stuff, use k3b
[01:36] <halcon_> #ubuntu-es
[01:36] <arepie> menace:  im using firefox extension fireftp
[01:36] <menace> Hawkwind: i need craxtion to create the .iso
[01:37] <menace> arepie: firefox wont run on my system for some reason...
[01:37] <Hawkwind> menace: Why ?  You can do that with mkisofs
[01:37] <Hawkwind> If firefox won't run, then you're doing something wrong
[01:37] <menace> Hawkwind: i didnt know that...
[01:37] <arepie> menace: install with adept?
[01:37] <menace> its my flashplugin-nonfree package
[01:37] <Hawkwind> menace: Did you sudo apt-get install firefox or did you compile it from mozilla.org ?
[01:37] <menace> its messed up somehow
[01:37] <menace> i used adept
[01:38] <menace> i cant even watch videos online now
[01:38] <Hawkwind> menace: So remove the flashplugin package
[01:38] <menace> because of the flash plugin-nonfree
[01:38] <menace> but i need it to watch videos online...and run frostwire
[01:38] <menace> and i removed and re-installed but it didnt work
[01:38] <Hawkwind> menace: Have you removed your ~/.mozilla directory ?
[01:39] <menace> im not sure let me check
[01:39] <Hawkwind> menace: Or rather make a backup of it, then remove it, then try running firefox ?
[01:39] <menace> i dont know how to do all that
[01:39] <menace> and i dont really need firefox
[01:39] <menace> i like konq
[01:39] <menace> and btw...gaim wont run either
[01:39] <Hawkwind> menace: cp -a ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-old
[01:40] <Hawkwind> menace: Or, mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-old
[01:40] <Hawkwind> menace: Preferably do the second one
[01:40] <arepie> menace: i rather use kopete
[01:40] <arepie> !ati
[01:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:41] <Hawkwind> kopete is an instant messenger, that's not what he's after
[01:41] <Hawkwind> Oh, he mentioned gaim, heh, sorry
[01:41] <Hawkwind> menace: Sounds like you have serious issues you need to tend to first
[01:41] <jon_> are video cards plug and play?
[01:41] <VanessaE> jon: not really
[01:41] <Hawkwind> jon_: Depends on what you mean by plug and play exactly
[01:41] <menace> i cant find mkisofs on my system. but it says its installed
[01:41] <menace> ok. how can i do that hawk?
[01:41] <VanessaE> from the perspective of the text console, generally yeah
[01:41] <Hawkwind> jon_: Most Nvidia are, even though you have to install the drivers afterwards
[01:41] <VanessaE> from a graphics perspective, no.
[01:41] <jon_> well
[01:42] <jon_> when i put one in
[01:42] <jon_> all i have is the terminal
[01:42] <Hawkwind> menace: Is this a fresh install of Dapper ?
[01:42] <Hawkwind> jon_: What kind of card ?
[01:42] <jon_> lemme look
[01:42] <menace> im really not sure. sorry for my ignorance
[01:42] <menace> i re-installed linux to try to fix this
[01:42] <Hawkwind> menace: Ummm, how did you install or did you do an upgrade ?
[01:43] <menace> install from CD
[01:43] <jon_> looks like it says nvidia
[01:43] <menace> should i upgrade my dapper?
[01:43] <Hawkwind> jon_: Nvidia what ?
[01:44] <Hawkwind> menace: What you need to do is run these apps from a terminal and see what error messages you get
[01:44] <jon_> im really not sure what im looking for, someone gave this to me
[01:44] <menace> strace firefox?
[01:44] <Hawkwind> menace: Then paste those messages to a pastebin for us to see and then we can go from there
[01:44] <jon_> n119?
[01:44] <Hawkwind> menace: No, just firefox from a terminal
[01:44] <menace> ok
[01:44] <VanessaE> well, if he does an lspci it should tell him what kind of vid card
[01:45] <Hawkwind> jon_: FX5200, 6600GT or what ?  That's what you need to know
[01:45] <VanessaE> even without the binary driver
[01:45] <Hawkwind> jon_: Is the card installed right now in the computer ?
[01:45] <VanessaE> e.g. --->  0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV40 [GeForce 6800]  (rev a1)
[01:45] <highLighter>  do I accept a file? it always fails to download showing "unsupported negoiation"
[01:45] <jon_> nope im running onboard video currently
[01:45] <menace> !pastebin
[01:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:46] <jon_> when i install i all i get is like a virtual terminal
[01:46] <jon_> i mean when i plug it in
[01:46] <Hawkwind> jon_: You'll want to put the card in, disable the onboard video if need be in your BIOS, then boot the system
[01:46] <kharn_> hey peeps im new to Linux and am looking for the Lamp package for this distro can u tell me where i can find it? i installed from desktop cd
[01:46] <Hawkwind> jon_: Once you get to the terminal, try doing sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[01:46] <menace> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26218/
[01:46] <menace> there you are hawkwind
[01:46] <Hawkwind> !lamp
[01:46] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[01:46] <menace> btw...thanks for the help..i really appreciate it
[01:47] <Hawkwind> menace: And firefox never starts ?
[01:47] <jon_> thanks
[01:48] <Hawkwind> menace:  ??
[01:48] <menace> Hawkwind: it starts up, but the scroll bar its all pixelated and wont work
[01:48] <kharn_> thx
[01:48] <Hawkwind> menace: Close firefox and do this from a terminal:  mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-old
[01:48] <menace> Hawkwind: and firefox completely freezes up
[01:48] <menace> k
[01:49] <Hawkwind> menace: Then try to restart firefox
[01:49] <menace> nope still messes up
[01:49] <menace> oh sorry
[01:49] <Hawkwind> menace: If it's still messed up, then you need to take a screenshot so we can see what it looks like
[01:51] <menace> yea still messing up...let me upload the image real quick
[01:52] <menace> http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/479/firefoxhn8.png
[01:53] <menace> personally...i think its flashplugin-nonfree and baghira window decorations thats not letting everything run properly...
[01:53] <menace> but your the expert
[01:53] <Hawkwind> menace: Looks like a theme issue
[01:53] <Hawkwind> menace: I'd seriously consider changing your theme and see what happens
[01:53] <menace> ok
[01:54] <menace> change my windows decoration?
[01:54] <menace> or everything
[01:56] <waspius> hi anyone know what codecs i can use in mplayer for sound in movies?i have w32
[01:56] <menace> !mpe
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:57] <menace> !mp3
[01:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:57] <waspius> ok thanx
[01:57] <Amority> how useful, that ubotu lol
[01:57] <menace> Hawkwind: firefox works...but frostwire still wont run
[01:57] <menace> Amority: lol yea
[01:57] <Hawkwind> !codecs > waspius
[01:58] <Hawkwind> menace: Frostwire is a p2p app and is very poorly coded.  I'd find something else to use IMO.  If you're doing torrents, then use ktorrent or bittorrent
[01:58] <VanessaE> frostwire giving you a runFrost.sh error
[01:58] <VanessaE> ?
[01:58] <menace> VanessaE: it just doesnt run
[01:58] <VanessaE> run it from a terminal
[01:58] <menace> Hawkwind: im using ktorrent at the momment...its just crazy slow
[01:58] <VanessaE> see what error spew you get
[01:59] <menace> it cant find my sun-java-jre
[01:59] <VanessaE> ohhh
[01:59] <Amority> VanessaE, do you have sun-java-jre
[01:59] <menace> i have sun-java-jre though
[01:59] <VanessaE> amority: it runs fine for me, just trying to help Menace
[01:59] <Amority> Ahh I see ok
[02:00] <schizzzee> hey gota question... how do you get the network settings to automatically change when you switch networks? i mean dhcp is enabled but it still retains the old ip settings.
[02:00] <menace> an ideas VanessaE?
[02:00] <VanessaE> off the top of my head, no :-/
[02:00] <menace> ok thanks anways
[02:00] <VanessaE> for me, it just magically found it :)
[02:00] <VanessaE> however,
[02:01] <VanessaE> I installed java directly from Sun's official package (put it in /opt/jre_blahblah)
[02:01] <Hawkwind> menace: Probably a wrong config setting somewhere then
[02:01] <CVirus> !kernel
[02:01] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[02:02] <VanessaE> (I've never had much luck with nvidia, jave, or flash as supplied by any distro's repositories)
[02:04] <VanessaE> Menace, is there anything in /etc/profile and the like that sets environment variables regarding java?
[02:05] <VanessaE> (for me, there is not)
[02:12] <|WAL|> I have a samba issue
[02:14] <jeroenvrp> when someone with ubuntu does sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; will kdm come-up automaticaly after a restart of X?
[02:14] <|WAL|> I can get to a remote samba share of mine through "Remote places" but I can't add it to the "Disk & Filesystems"
[02:16] <mabreaux> any one running edgy? how stable is it, do you think they will make the 26th on October date?
[02:16] <VanessaE> edgy is fairly stable but development is pretty active
[02:16] <VanessaE> so stuff might still break
[02:17] <mabreaux> are you running it?
[02:17] <Tm_T> or unbreak ;)
[02:17] <VanessaE> from what my husband and I can tell, only a few minor issues exist
[02:17] <VanessaE> my husband is, I run dapper
[02:17] <Tm_T> but I'm more developer than regular user
[02:17] <VanessaE> Tm: heh, right...  like the Ctrl+Alt+Plus bit :)
[02:17] <mabreaux> where can I fine the bug still on edgy? and do they have a live cd of it?
[02:18] <VanessaE> can't answer either of those :)
[02:18] <VanessaE> (hubby upgraded by tweaking sources.list)
[02:19] <VanessaE> now, bugs...
[02:19] <VanessaE> lesse
[02:19] <CowHigh> hi
[02:19] <mabreaux> is there a kubuntu edgy irc?
[02:20] <VanessaE> you would normally go here for bugs, it seems-->  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+bugs
[02:20] <VanessaE> but the database is empty
[02:20] <CowHigh> sorry, could you tell me a diferents between CD and DVD relase of kubuntu?
[02:20] <mabreaux> link says : There are currently no open bugs.
[02:20] <LjL> DVD has more packages on it -- that hsould be all
[02:21] <CowHigh> and is it still live/install cd?
[02:21] <CowHigh> dvd
[02:22] <VanessaE> yes
[02:22] <CowHigh> nice, thx
[02:22] <VanessaE> but you should stick with the CD if you can spare the bandwidth wherever you plan to install
[02:22] <|WAL|> I can get to a remote samba share of mine through "Remote places" but I can't add it to the "Disk & Filesystems"
[02:22] <jeroenvrp> anyone has an answer on the question I asked?
[02:23] <VanessaE> not I, sorry jeroen
[02:23] <mabreaux> just found this one : https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyKnownProblems
[02:23] <VanessaE> WAL, do you have smbmount installed?
[02:24] <maxime_> hi
[02:24] <|WAL|> VanessaE: nope, couldn't figure out where to get it in the repositories
[02:25] <VanessaE> smbfs might be it
[02:26] <|WAL|> I get an error trying to get it
[02:26] <VanessaE> what error?
[02:26] <|WAL|> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:26] <|WAL|>   smbfs: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.22-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 is to b                                                                                                   e installed
[02:26] <|WAL|> E: Broken packages
[02:26] <VanessaE> ack
[02:26] <maxime_> what tools to emulate my windows ?
[02:27] <VanessaE> maxime: there are a number of choices..  wine works for some, vmware and bochs work for others
[02:27] <mabreaux> and crossover
[02:27] <maxime_> i has problem to wine ...
[02:27] <|WAL|> VanessaE: could I be missing a repository?
[02:28] <VanessaE> WAL: I'm not sure.  Did you try   sudo apt-get -f install
[02:28] <VanessaE> see if it can resolve the dependency issue?
[02:29] <|WAL|> VanessaE: just tried, no uck
[02:30] <VanessaE> ok that one I have no clue how to fix
[02:30] <VanessaE> (suppose I'm still something of a n00b even after 10 years using linux :)
[02:31] <maxime_> how create icon ex: home ... but i dont have the icon  of my desktop ...
[02:31] <VanessaE> maxime: I don't understand what you need.
[02:31] <VanessaE> Do you mean on the Kubuntu desktop?
[02:31] <maxime_> yes
[02:32] <|WAL|> VanessaE: I hear you, I've been using it for 6-8 but I'm a convert to Kubuntu (former slackware)
[02:32] <VanessaE> Right click on the desktop area, Create New -> Link to Application
[02:32] <maxime_> k
[02:32] <VanessaE> WAL: Slackware followed by Gentoo for me
[02:32] <maxime_> thanks
[02:33] <|WAL|> VanessaE: as you know then there's quite a difference
[02:33] <|WAL|> :D
[02:33] <VanessaE> yep
[02:33] <VanessaE> g-d don't I know it :)
[02:33] <|WAL|> lol, indeed why I switched
[02:34] <VanessaE> for me, slackware's lack of package management drove me off (but I dug my heels in for the longest time)....Gentoo...well....there's a reason I drive a Thunderbird instead of some rice car :)
[02:35] <|WAL|> VanessaE: heh, I hear you, I wanted to goto Gentoo for some time but I held out as well and glad I did
[02:42] <VanessaE> now that said, I seem to recall that you can compile smbfs support into the kernel also
[02:42] <mabreaux> I came from Red Hat, Fedora, Suse 9-10.1 and I like Kubuntu the best, I just wish I could get KDE and Gnome on my desktop.  wife like gnome I do not know why.
[02:42] <Hawkwind> mabreaux: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:42] <Hawkwind> mabreaux: That will install all of Gnome for you and you can let the wife use it
[02:42] <VanessaE> here it is
[02:43] <VanessaE> if you can't get that smbmount tool to install, there's still a kernel rebuild option
[02:43] <mabreaux> I have tried that twice and my machine refuse to login in after that
[02:44] <mabreaux> I just get a blank screen and the machine is not responsive
[02:45] <printk> I'm having a brain fart.  I switched to KDE (kubuntu-desktop), but firefox is still trying to play streaming videos using gstreamer.. how do I change it to kaffeine?
[02:46] <shadowhywind> i am having problems with getting an IP with my wireless, it just randomly stopped. Anybody have any ideas?
[02:47] <Hawkwind> mabreaux: Probably because when you go to use Gnome you're not using GDM
[02:50] <mabreaux> Hawkwind: what?
[02:51] <Hawkwind> mabreaux: After you install ubuntu-desktop and you log out it should take you back to a GUI login screen, correct ?
[02:51] <mabreaux> I still wish to use KDE the wife want gnome, can ubunut support both on the same machine?
[02:51] <Hawkwind> mabreaux: Absolutely
[02:52] <Hawkwind> mabreaux: I have them both installed and many more window managers and don't have any problems
[02:52] <mabreaux> Hawkwind: what did you do different than me....   Mind failed badly.
[02:52] <keebler> Can k3b Burn audio CDs, converting 0GG to WAV/MP3?
[02:53] <method|> how do i see the history in konqueror?
[02:53] <VanessaE> keebler: rather, K3B will import Mp3, OGG and WAV and burn them to an audio CD, yes.
[02:53] <LjL> method|: try F9
[02:53] <keebler> VanessaE: Thank you.
[02:54] <keebler> Thats exactly what I wanted to hear. My fault for incorrectly stating my question.
[02:54] <VanessaE> (you need the k3b mp3 plugin for mp3 support...libk3b2-mp3 or some such)
[02:54] <luisa> hello
[02:54] <VanessaE> keebler: no problem, just making sure I understood you right :)
[02:54] <keebler> What about OGG? Is there a separate lib for that too?
[02:55] <VanessaE> as long as you have ogg installed in general, k3b will use it
[02:55] <LjL> keebler: OGG Vorbis plays out of the box
[02:55] <oslo> hi i have 2 cd rom
[02:55] <Hawkwind> mabreaux: I have no idea what you did.  I simply installed ubuntu-desktop and it works if I ever wanted to use Gnome
[02:55] <keebler> LjL: I know... I'm listening to it now. :) (Cowboy Bebop OST), but I want to burn it to an audio CD.
[02:56] <oslo> hda &hdb all both work but i can't mount or see cdrom with hda
[02:56] <LjL> ah, i see. well, guess that works out of the box as well, but i don't really know
[02:56] <oslo> fstab seems right edited
[02:56] <VanessaE> your CDROM is hdc and hdd
[02:56] <VanessaE> (assuming you did it right, typically hda and hdb are hard disks)
[02:56] <oslo> VanessaE> seems to be hda & hdb at home
[02:56] <oslo> ^^
[02:57] <mabreaux> Hawkwind: I try it again on my test machine
[02:57] <VanessaE> oslo, dmesg |grep hd  and put the output on pastebin
[02:57] <oslo> VanessaE> i think it depends on with ide1 or ide2 wire they are connected
[02:57] <VanessaE> !pastebin > oslo
[02:57] <VanessaE> indeed it does, I just want to make sure I understand your setup.
[02:58] <ubuntu> can someone please help me :( i need to take away some free space from a partition
[02:58] <ubuntu> and make it unallocatde
[02:58] <LjL> ubuntu: you can use GParted
[02:58] <LjL> well, or QTParted, since we're on #Kubuntu
[02:58] <VanessaE> LjL: those resize the fs also?
[02:59] <LjL> VanessaE: they can. obviously they don't work with just any filesystem
[02:59] <luisa> how i can configurate samba????????
[02:59] <ubuntu> how do i get to GParted?
[02:59] <LjL> !samba
[02:59] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:59] <VanessaE> cool.  I'll have to remember that in future
[02:59] <LjL> ubuntu: type "sudo apt-get install qtparted" or "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[02:59] <ubuntu> oh ok thanx
[02:59] <LjL> ubuntu: gparted is probably more polished, though it's a GTK program
[02:59] <ubuntu> im on the livecd though
[02:59] <oslo> here it is http://paste-bin.com/888
[02:59] <LjL> ubuntu: shouldn't matter.
[03:00] <ubuntu> oh ok
[03:00] <oslo> VanessaE
[03:00] <LjL> ubuntu: anyway, if you're on Ubuntu, you should have GParted already installed. on Kubuntu, guess QTParted isn't there by default otoh
[03:00] <otaku-san> Hey, I've seen it but forgot!  How do you change the icon from the default icon to a new one?
[03:01] <otaku-san> such as for Firefox
[03:01] <VanessaE> oslo: er...ok I suppose that setup will work, but do bear in mind that it's standard to put the CD's on hdc/hdd and your hard disks on hda/hdb
[03:02] <oslo> yeah yeah
[03:02] <VanessaE> however,
[03:02] <VanessaE> take a look at /media
[03:02] <VanessaE> on my box I have /media/cdrom and /media/cdrom0
[03:02] <VanessaE> did you check that the mount points are correct for your setup?
[03:04] <n5> hello
[03:04] <VanessaE> (you mentioned that you can't mount /dev/hda which if it were on my box, would fail too since I don't have a /media/cdrom1 as you've specified in your fstab)
[03:04] <VanessaE> hello n5
[03:04] <n5> i have fr version of kubuntu, how to change in english ? did a little search on site, but no luck
[03:05] <shadowhywind> anybody have any ideas why i would randomly not be able to get a IP with my wireless?
[03:05] <oslo> i have both /media/cdrom and /media/cdrom0 wich link to hdb & i have also /media/cdrom1 that i had to mkdir but this one not working, i cant see hda
[03:05] <oslo> VanessaE
[03:06] <VanessaE> ok, what error msg do you get?  (pastebin if more than one line)
[03:06] <printk> how would one go about changing their default streamer to kaffeine-xine instead of totem?  Firefox keeps trying to use totem
[03:06] <n5> can i get any help ? i've readed, that i can change in control center, but alt+F2 and kconfig not working
[03:06] <VanessaE> n5: I don't understand your question
[03:06] <shadowhywind> who you talking to VanessaE?
[03:06] <VanessaE> are you trying to pull up the KDE control center?
[03:07] <n5> i have french version of kubuntu
[03:07] <VanessaE> shadow: I was talking to oslo actually
[03:07] <n5> how to change langugage to english ?
[03:07] <VanessaE> ah
[03:07] <felixjet> while im playing, my graph cards freezes 1 sec every 20. what can i do? :( is so annoying
[03:07] <VanessaE> well get to the control center first: Alt+F2  and type "kcontrol"
[03:07] <VanessaE> (without quotes of course)
[03:08] <n5> ahhh
[03:08] <VanessaE> I'm going to guess that you want the "Regional and Accessibility" option
[03:08] <n5> not works
[03:08] <VanessaE> ok, try running it from a terminal
[03:08] <oslo> VanessaE>no error message just nothinh in the folder & i hear the cd-rom is starting then it stop & no light on; but it k3b its light on & working perfectly
[03:09] <n5> invalid comand
[03:09] <n5> in terminal
[03:09] <VanessaE> n5: you're running kubuntu right?
[03:09] <n5> yes
[03:09] <VanessaE> ok, you typed exactly:  kcontrol
[03:09] <VanessaE> right?
[03:10] <n5> Impossible d'ouvrir l'emplacement  file:///kcontrol 
[03:10] <n5> Dtails : Impossible de trouver l'emplacement ou le fichier.
[03:11] <VanessaE> sec...
[03:11] <VanessaE> ok..   sudo apt-get install kcontrol
[03:11] <otaku-san> printk: this is a stab in the dark...but you may have totem-xine-plugin...or something) it's something that totem uses for firefox...It's on by default in Ubuntu...check in adept (search totem-xine...and see what all comes up) and maybe uninstall the plugin and try finding the kaffeine one...
[03:11] <n5> maybe kcontrol need to type in french ? :)
[03:11] <VanessaE> (that was easy! :)  )
[03:12] <VanessaE> nope, program names don't usually change based on language
[03:12] <otaku-san> n5: no type it in english
[03:12] <otaku-san> !fr
[03:12] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:13] <n5> ok instaled :D
[03:13] <VanessaE> n5: ok, now try running it again
[03:13] <printk> otaku-san: thanks that worked actually
[03:13] <otaku-san> n5: try there if your still having troubles...they may know exactly how to help you...tho' VanessaE is doing great
[03:13] <n5> works
[03:13] <VanessaE> ok good
[03:13] <n5> thank you guys :)
[03:13] <VanessaE> Regional and Accessibility seems like a good place to state
[03:13] <otaku-san> printk: glad I could help!
[03:13] <VanessaE> start :)
[03:15] <n5> thank you VanessaE
[03:15] <VanessaE> don't let my apparent expertise fool you...  Google is My Friend (tm)  :D
[03:15] <Digital_Pioneer> Hi. I've just installed Kubuntu, and I need to get internet, because this thing seems to be hopeless without it.
[03:16] <Digital_Pioneer> I've installed NdisWrapper to use my WLAN adapter, but it won't connect... :(
[03:16] <Digital_Pioneer> iwconfig says my access point is invalid. Any ideas?
[03:17] <|WAL|> lol
[03:17] <|WAL|> Digital_Pioneer: what chipset?
[03:17] <Digital_Pioneer> |WAL|, Chipset? You mean my graphics chipset...?
[03:18] <felixjet> ey, my nvidia 420MX freezes on the games too much. what drivers should i use? "nv" , "nvidia" or "nvidia geforce4 (generic)" ?
[03:18] <|WAL|> Digital_Pioneer: I mean what chipset of WLAN is it?
[03:18] <Digital_Pioneer> |WAL|, Uhh, it's a Netgear WG111v2 notebook adapter.
[03:19] <Digital_Pioneer> 0846:4240 if it helps... :)
[03:19] <Hawkwind> Digital_Pioneer: You need to know what chipset is in the card though
[03:19] <|WAL|> Digital_Pioneer: there's no drivers for prism?
[03:20] <|WAL|> I'm pretty sure there are
[03:20] <Digital_Pioneer> |WAL|, I've only ever used NdisWrapper.
[03:20] <mabreaux> does edgy have more support for wireless networks with boardcom chipsets
[03:20] <|WAL|> http://prism54.org/newdrivers.html
[03:20] <Hawkwind> mabreaux: Probably not.  Broadcomm chipsets are nothing but a royal pain
[03:20] <shadowhywind> tell me about it...
[03:21] <shadowhywind> i am dealing with a ndiswrapper (iw_set_freq:376): setting configuration failed (00010003) error now..
[03:21] <mabreaux> then recomend a pcmica card that would work better in a b/g  or a/b/g config
[03:21] <|WAL|> Digital_Pioneer: if you still wanna try ndiswrapper.. I have some commands that work for me with Ndiswrapper
[03:21] <Hawkwind> I used a linksys with a broadcomm chipset with ndiswrapper for nearly a year.  Got tired of dealing with it all the time when changing distros so I purchased an Orinoco Silver card brand new in the box on ebay for $20
[03:22] <ccherrett> how do I get sshd running in kubuntu?
[03:22] <ccherrett> I can't find the package to install
[03:22] <Hawkwind> ccherrett: sudo apt-get install ssh
[03:22] <Hawkwind> !ssh
[03:22] <VanessaE> eesh...and to think I was looking into going wireless around the house...  eh, i think I'll keep using my spool of cat-5 :)
[03:22] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[03:22] <Hawkwind> !info ssh
[03:22] <ubotu> ssh: Secure shell client and server (transitional package). In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB
[03:22] <Hawkwind> ccherrett: Once you install it, it will start the service for you automatically
[03:23] <arepie> anyone plese look at -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26227/
[03:23] <VanessaE> doesn't he need openssh-server ?
[03:23] <Digital_Pioneer> |WAL|, What might those be?
[03:23] <arepie> i've installed fglrx driver, but the OenGL is still Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[03:23] <orient2000> I need to conect my camera Sony DSC-W50 but there is no driver for it? What can I do?
[03:23] <ccherrett> ok thanks I was assuming sshd was the package
[03:23] <Hawkwind> VanessaE: It's a meta package that will install what he needs
[03:24] <VanessaE> oh ok
[03:24] <Hawkwind> ccherrett: apt-cache search ssh
[03:24] <|WAL|> Digital_Pioneer: I'll pm in a sec
[03:24] <Raven301> Digital_Pioneer: Is this for wireless
[03:24] <mabreaux> what chipset is the orinoco silver?
[03:24] <Digital_Pioneer> Raven301, Yes.
[03:24] <ccherrett> Hawkwind: thanks
[03:24] <Raven301> Digital_Pioneer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174 try this
[03:25] <Digital_Pioneer> Hmm, I don't think Prism would work... It seems to only support WG111v1.
[03:25] <Hawkwind> ccherrett: No problem
[03:25] <Digital_Pioneer> Raven301, OK, one sec.
[03:26] <Digital_Pioneer> Raven301, I don't have a Broadcom on that computer...
[03:26] <Raven301> Digital_Pioneer: oops wrong site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[03:26] <|WAL|> Digital_Pioneer: I'll have to use paste-bin
[03:26] <Digital_Pioneer> |WAL|, OK, thanks. :)
[03:27] <arepie> !ati
[03:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:28] <|WAL|> Digital_Pioneer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26228/
[03:28] <Digital_Pioneer> |WAL|, OK, thanks.
[03:28] <|WAL|> Digital_Pioneer: replace 00:00:00:00:00:00 with your AccessPoint's MAC address, and APNAME with your SSID
[03:29] <|WAL|> Digital_Pioneer: not sure if all those steps are needed, but it does the trick for my WLAN
[03:29] <Digital_Pioneer> |WAL|, I know the SSID, but not the MAC.... :(
[03:29] <Digital_Pioneer> OK.
[03:30] <turtletime> anybody installed kubuntu onto a RAID 5 array?
[03:30] <turtletime> nforce 4
[03:31] <|WAL|> Digital_Pioneer: iwlist scan
[03:31] <Digital_Pioneer> |WAL|, No scan results.
[03:31] <|WAL|> Digital_Pioneer: hidden SSID?
[03:31] <Digital_Pioneer> |WAL|, Nope.
[03:31] <|WAL|> Digital_Pioneer: crappy... wrong driver for ndiswrapper?
[03:32] <Digital_Pioneer> |WAL|, My adapter is not being asked anything, I think. BTW, it's on the computer as eth2.
[03:32] <|WAL|> Digital_Pioneer: I assume you installed the .inf from the windows driver?
[03:32] <Digital_Pioneer> |WAL|, Yes.
[03:32] <VanessaE> ack, just noticed I missed a pm from oslo...wonder what he needed.
[03:33] <|WAL|> Digital_Pioneer: hmmm I'd try to find a way to do it non-Ndiswrapper if there is a way
[03:33] <Digital_Pioneer> |WAL|, What is there other than Prism?
[03:33] <VanessaE> hm, must have gotten buried among the rest of the chat (I hate when I do that :(  )
[03:34] <|WAL|> Digital_Pioneer: is that a usb wireless?
[03:35] <Digital_Pioneer> |WAL|,  Yes
[03:35] <intelikey> :() { dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/stderr } && :
[03:35] <|WAL|> Digital_Pioneer: you getting lights on the device?
[03:36] <|WAL|> Digital_Pioneer: even the power one
[03:36] <Digital_Pioneer> |WAL|, No. Only one light that blinks once when I plug it in.
[03:37] <|WAL|> but you've verified that the usb aspect is working right?
[03:37] <mabreaux> are there any other pcmcia card the work well with kubuntu?
[03:37] <Digital_Pioneer> |
[03:37] <Digital_Pioneer> Oops... LOL
[03:38] <Digital_Pioneer> |WAL|, lsusb displays it properly.
[03:38] <intelikey> mabreaux i'm sure there are.  but sister google should be a better answerer of such quarries
[03:39] <|WAL|> Digital_Pioneer: ok
[03:39] <mabreaux> but what chipset should I look for?
[03:39] <zblach> hey all
[03:39] <|WAL|> Digital_Pioneer: try iwlist eth2 scan
[03:40] <intelikey> mabreaux maybe try a search for "supported chipsets" "pcmcia"  on http://www.google.com/linux/
[03:41] <arepie> who would like to help me with fglrx driver.. i've read wikis, how to's and i have google.. anyone would like to help..
[03:41] <intelikey> yes with the quotes
[03:41] <arepie> anyone plese look at -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26227/
[03:42] <Digital-Pioneer> :\
[03:43] <Digital-Pioneer> |WAL|, I just got rid of Debian in favor of Kubuntu. This driver always worked just fine in Debian. :(
[03:44] <felixjet> hi
[03:44] <|WAL|> Digital-Pioneer: I'm at a loss then
[03:45] <method|> is the us.archive.ubuntu.com repo down for anyone else?
[03:45] <method|> what is another instant messanger besides kopete and gaim?
[03:45] <VanessaE> off and on it does go down, method
[03:45] <method|> huh?
[03:46] <VanessaE> the repository - that server does occasionally die out for some reason
[03:46] <felixjet> mmm, im triying to install nvidia drivers but they ask for kernel source... it is linux-source-2.6.15 ?? can i lose configs? it this a risk?
[03:46] <VanessaE> it's down for me too.
[03:46] <method|> i see
[03:46] <saki> hello my friends
[03:47] <method|> you cant send files with kopete?
[03:48] <VanessaE> no clue, I do know it's broken on gaim, for some services anyway
[03:49] <method|> it's broken on kopete apparently too :/
[03:49] <felixjet> mmm, im triying to install nvidia drivers but they ask for kernel source... it is linux-source-2.6.15 ?? can i lose configs? it this a risk?
[03:49] <intelikey> felixjet yes no and no  in that order.
[03:49] <VanessaE> it's something you can blame Yahoo/AOL/MSN for though, so I understand
[03:50] <intelikey> felixjet have you read the wiki on that ?
[03:50] <intelikey> !ati
[03:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:50] <intelikey> felixjet ^
[03:50] <felixjet> k
[03:50] <felixjet> readin
[03:50] <intelikey> or the newer page on the wiki's ?
[03:51] <|WAL|> Digital_Pioneer: sorry, fresh out of ideas
[03:51] <|WAL|> cya l
[03:51] <|WAL|> *all
[03:58] <tony_> hell everyone.. Is there any program that can compare two text file ( php ) and show the difference ?
[03:59] <VanessaE> diff will do.
[03:59] <felixjet> ey intelikey
[03:59] <tony_> diff ?? cani get it from adept ..
[03:59] <felixjet> i dont understand this
[03:59] <felixjet> can you clear it for me please
[03:59] <felixjet> "If you are running Hoary Hedgehog or Breezy Badger, then install nvidia-settings and nvidia-xconfig. DO NOT install either package in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS because it will remove nvidia-glx. These programs are now provided in nvidia-glx."
[03:59] <VanessaE> tony: you probably have it already
[03:59] <VanessaE> from a terminal,   diff file1 file2
[03:59] <felixjet> i should install that packages'
[03:59] <saki> !ntfs
[03:59] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:00] <tony_> is there anything that is not Shell ???
[04:00] <tony_> i need to compare and modify text at the same time
[04:00] <VanessaE> eh
[04:00] <VanessaE> dunno how to do that (I'd generally just open a couple of terminals and do it manually)
[04:01] <tarmath> diff viewer?
[04:01] <tony_> well, im new to linux... still shecking off window
[04:03] <cgeo> guys how can i restore the default kubuntu desktop theme???
[04:03] <tony_> what is the different between Lost and Found and Add remove program
[04:05] <tony_> cgeo: System Setting >> Appearance
[04:05] <tony_> i think thats a KDE default
[04:05] <intelikey> tony_ lost+found == the trashbin for the file system mantainance.    that is to say what ever e2fsck might find that doesn't look right it puts there.   generally only a deleted file or two...
[04:06] <tony_> i see , thanks .
[04:06] <Tm_T> sometimes it's lost stuff, so check before removing
[04:07] <intelikey> tony_ oddly enough any fs that does not contain /lost+found  is considered to be a "file system with errors."  by e2fsck
[04:07] <cgeo> thanx tony but i can;t seem to find anything there
[04:07] <tony_> lost and found has sub that called add remove ..
[04:08] <tony_> so i can install apps right from there
[04:09] <tony_> cgeo:: sorry cgeo , thats the best i can do .. im new to linux ..
[04:09] <tony_> well, im confused.. :_) time for bed ..
[04:11] <jon_> what is the command for configuring a nvidia card?
[04:12] <fildo> command ?
[04:12] <fildo> xorg.conf
[04:12] <zblach> hey. i have a bit of a problem with sound on my laptop.
[04:12] <fildo> whats up zblach
[04:12] <zblach> if I enter standby/hibernate, and then leave, my sound fails to start up again
[04:13] <zblach> i've found a bit of a work-around, but it's a hassle
[04:13] <zblach> if i disable my sound server, enter standby, leave standby, and re-enable the sound server, it works fine
[04:13] <fildo> just restart service i assume
[04:14] <fildo> but anything further then that , is out of my support boundries unfortunately ! alsa always worked out of the box for me and my notebook
[04:14] <zblach> i'm guessing so, but what command does [dis|en] abling the sound system call?
[04:14] <zblach> and, which script is executed upon standby?
[04:14] <fildo> > /etc/init.d <something sound i assume >
[04:15] <zblach> and standby?
[04:15] <fildo> it could be an " acpi" issue
[04:15] <intelikey> ?
[04:15] <intelikey> ? /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[04:16] <fildo> yeh i dont have it tho
[04:16] <fildo> thats why i didnt state it
[04:16] <fildo> i only have alsa utils
[04:16] <intelikey> not sure if i have any alsa utils installed any more
[04:17] <intelikey> doesn't look like it, i don't have a script in the init.d
[04:17] <fildo> hmm
[04:17] <zblach> alsa-utils isn't it
[04:18] <intelikey> looks good.  try a "restart" on it
[04:18] <zblach> regardless of the status of alsa-utils, system settings reported the sound server as off
[04:18] <zblach> and a restart of alsa, and a re-enabling of sound server does nothing
[04:18] <zblach> it just hangs on re-enabling the sound server
[04:19] <intelikey> check malone ?
[04:19] <intelikey> may be a known issue
[04:19] <fildo> what notebook u got ?
[04:19] <fildo> so i know to keep away from it :p
[04:20] <intelikey> hybernate / susspend  have been notoriously buggy.
[04:20] <fildo> !alsa
[04:20] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[04:20] <intelikey> !hybernate
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hybernate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <fildo> intelikey: i had an issue like that! i close re-open laptop
[04:20] <zblach> intelikey: any change in the new beta?
[04:21] <fildo> n it comes back up
[04:21] <zblach> fildo: do you mean close & re-open?
[04:21] <fildo> but i only have standby issues when running xgl
[04:21] <intelikey> zblach i don't know.
[04:21] <fildo> notebook. screen
[04:21] <zblach> fildo: what brand?
[04:21] <fildo> toshitba
[04:21] <fildo> toshiba
[04:21] <fildo> :p
[04:22] <zblach> hp.
[04:22] <fildo> the company that goin broke?/
[04:23] <Manyfold> i just erased a line form the /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride file and now i get the error message dpkg: statoverride-file contains an empty column
[04:23] <Manyfold> what can i do
[04:23] <zblach> last i heard they were in too much shit to go broke
[04:23] <VanessaE> on my box, Manyfold, there's only one line in that file
[04:23] <VanessaE> hplip root 755 /var/run/hplip
[04:24] <Manyfold> VanessaE: yes i installed fuse some time ago
[04:24] <felixjet> lol
[04:24] <felixjet> IceWeasel
[04:24] <felixjet> is the new name for debian's firefox
[04:24] <Manyfold> VanessaE: then i decided to dpkg -purge fuse
[04:24] <VanessaE> oops
[04:24] <fildo> eheh
[04:25] <Manyfold> VanessaE: today it wanted to install insserv
[04:25] <fildo> whats inserv?
[04:25] <Manyfold> VanessaE: a moment please
[04:25] <VanessaE> I don't anything about that file, except that it looks to me to just be "program user perms executeable"
[04:25] <jon_> i need some help with my graphics card
[04:26] <VanessaE> maybe you accidentally lost something from another line in the file?
[04:26] <jon_> when i put it in and restart, my monitor is all black and the green light flashes
[04:26] <fildo> hehe
[04:26] <jon_> its an nvidia card
[04:26] <VanessaE> jon: check your BIOS settings, make sure the video card you're using is the primary card.
[04:26] <fildo> jon_: sure u have the right configuration in xorg.conf
[04:26] <jon_> right now ive got onboard video
[04:26] <VanessaE> and of course that the card works
[04:26] <fildo> did u disable in bios ?
[04:27] <Manyfold> VanessaE: back then i decided to install insserv today and got the following error message
[04:27] <fildo> then load nv card?
[04:27] <jon_> no because i could see to get to the bios screen when i restarted
[04:27] <dennister> g'evening ppl
[04:27] <jon_> should i disable the bios and then put the card in
[04:27] <Manyfold> dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `fuse' in statoverride file
[04:27] <VanessaE> manyfold: ok
[04:27] <Manyfold> VanessaE: dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `fuse' in statoverride file
[04:27] <VanessaE> jon: yes
[04:27] <fildo> jon_: could be an idea .
[04:28] <Manyfold> VanessaE: so i decided to delete that fuse line manually from the file
[04:28] <intelikey> Manyfold so groupadd fuse and try again
[04:28] <VanessaE> the BIOS needs to know that it should use the nvidia card as your default (look for something like "Primary Video: PCI/AGP" or so
[04:28] <zblach> thanks all
[04:28] <fildo> nps
[04:28] <Manyfold> and now i get the error message that it contains an empty line
[04:28] <VanessaE> an empty *line*?
[04:29] <VanessaE> or a column?
[04:29] <Manyfold> intelikey: i don't need no fucking fuse group i purged the package
[04:29] <jon_> i cant find the configuration on xorg-config
[04:29] <Manyfold> intelikey: i deleted the group on purpose
[04:29] <dennister> need some help with azureus; anyone here know it very well? including advanced features?
[04:30] <waspius> for some reason my whole system is running very very slow...any ideas on why that can happen?
[04:30] <dennister> waspius: when did it start?
[04:30] <Manyfold> intelikey: and i want dpkg to run wiothout requiering that group
[04:30] <waspius> well it has started latelly
[04:30] <Manyfold> intelikey: sorry it took me away
[04:30] <waspius> dennister:
[04:31] <tarmath> waspius: open a konsole and then type top and see if any process is using allot of ressources
[04:31] <dennister> can u remember what u were doing when it did start? it could be some runaway processes
[04:31] <VanessaE> manyfold: open the file again and just double-check that you didn't add an empty line somewhere
[04:31] <Manyfold> so can anyone help me?
[04:31] <fildo> lol @ runaway .. dam strays
[04:31] <dennister> tarmath has a better idea
[04:31] <VanessaE> maybe hexdump it, shouldn't be much to look for, like two newlines in a row somewhere
[04:32] <waspius> dennister: i dont remember...
[04:32] <dennister> the command could be lspc if i remember correctly
[04:32] <dennister> or "top" as tarmath suggested
[04:32] <Manyfold> VanessaE: i use nano and it shows me 2 lines read
[04:32] <Manyfold> VanessaE: but i can see only 1 line
[04:32] <waspius> dennister: i run top but i dont make any sence really
[04:32] <VanessaE> I take it there's only one line in ..ok
[04:33] <Manyfold> VanessaE: so how can i erase that empty line?
[04:33] <VanessaE> put the cursor on the end of the one good line and just hit the del key
[04:33] <VanessaE> nano is picky like tht
[04:33] <tarmath> waspius: its the list of processes ordered from the one that uses most your cpu down to idle processes...
[04:33] <Manyfold> VanessaE: thanks for your help
[04:33] <dennister> i'm still quite the newbie, so I'm limited in how much i can help i'm afraid
[04:33] <VanessaE> then save and hexdump it to make sure that extra newline was removed
[04:34] <tarmath> waspius: the line you want to look at is PU which is, as you might guess, the percentage of your cpu used by the process...
[04:34] <Manyfold> VanessaE: i still get wrote 2 lines
[04:34] <VanessaE> shit
[04:34] <VanessaE> ok, try it with another editor
[04:34] <VanessaE> vi might be suitable here actually
[04:34] <waspius> tarmath: well the one with the most cpu is pid 4808 and 4963
[04:35] <tarmath> waspius: and whats the percentage of cpu used?
[04:35] <VanessaE> there isn't a blank line *above* the good one is there?
[04:35] <dennister> on my end this is totally strange; can download fine, but be a good seeder and give back what I get? hah!
[04:35] <omar> Hello, I have windows in one machine and I would like to install kubuntu and use both programs, what should I do ?
[04:35] <waspius> tarmath: in total 23-30%
[04:35] <tarmath> waspius: is it always that process on the top of the list? the list is being update every 5 seconds or so
[04:35] <waspius> tarmath: 5.6
[04:35] <waspius> tarmath: those 2 interchange
[04:36] <tarmath> waspius: 30% is allot
[04:36] <waspius> tarmath: that is a total of all of them
[04:36] <tarmath> waspius: give me the process names (the name of the executable, last column)
[04:36] <intelikey> Manyfold what have you got there M$ markup in a config file ?       ( tr -d '\r' file > newfile )
[04:36] <Manyfold> VanessaE: yes there is but it was before
[04:37] <VanessaE> (still that raises a question...wtf does dpkg care about empty lines in a text config file?)
[04:37] <VanessaE> ok, well try removing it anyway
[04:37] <waspius> tarmath: 16,15,17
[04:37] <intelikey> markup
[04:37] <dennister> my gosh: it's late...be back soon
[04:37] <waspius> tarmath: sorry wait
[04:37] <tarmath> waspius: what I want is the COMMAND column
[04:38] <VanessaE> another option is to copy with the mouse the line you want to keep, then   echo "paste text here" > /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride
[04:38] <waspius> tarmath: xorg,konversation,kded
[04:38] <waspius> tarmath: and kicker
[04:38] <mabreaux> not much luck finding a compatible pcmcia wireless card for kubuntu....
[04:38] <waspius> tarmath: kded and xorg are the two top ones
[04:39] <DFM> mabreaux: a d-link dwl-g650  will work out of the box
[04:39] <tarmath> waspius: well, xorg is normally on the top... its the display...
[04:40] <tarmath> waspius: kded I dont know though...
[04:40] <purpleposeidon> omar: If, by 'programs', you really mean 'operating systems', then yes, you can install both OS's on different partitions.
[04:41] <waspius> tarmath: so any idea what i should do?
[04:41] <Manyfold> intelikey: tr -d '\r' file > newfile doesn't work
[04:41] <tarmath> waspius: well theres so many reasons why your computer might be slow...
[04:42] <waspius> tarmath: ie?it was not before
[04:42] <Manyfold> intelikey: error message
[04:42] <Manyfold> sudo tr -d '\r' /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride > newfile
[04:42] <Manyfold> tr: zustzlicher Operand /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride
[04:42] <Manyfold> Beim Lschen ohne Verdichten darf nur eine Zeichenkette angegeben werden.
[04:42] <Manyfold> tr --help gibt weitere Informationen.
[04:42] <tarmath> waspius: before what is the question...
[04:42] <Manyfold> intelikey: which means there is an operand to much
 different partitions? you mean leaving the choise of partitions like I find it while installing kubuntu?
[04:43] <VanessaE> (odd quotes... did the same thing on one website I was looking at today..  one quote at the bottom of the line and one at the top?)
[04:43] <waspius> tarmath: the question is why is it slow and what can i do..it never used to be like this
[04:45] <waspius> you cannot imagine hos slow it has bexome
[04:45] <purpleposeidon> omar: As I recall, you can resize windows partitions. Or, if you have additional partitions laying around (at least a couple gigs) you can use those, or you could use a seperate hard-drive....
[04:45] <posthuman> does anyone knw how to convert mpeg files to avi?
[04:46] <XVampireX> Hey
[04:46] <XVampireX> I got a problem with the sound
[04:46] <VanessaE> bbl
[04:46] <XVampireX> It's stuttering in Games
[04:46] <XVampireX> SDL/OpenGL
[04:46] <cahuez> gggrrreeetings guys and gals, enjoy for a whiiiillee, hehe> http://unix.rulez.org/~calver/pictures/ ..
[04:46] <intelikey> Manyfold no it means that tr doesn't read files.... pipe it through.   cat file | tr -d '\r' > newfile and test the new file....    but i'm way to busy to be trying to help in here right now.
[04:47] <XVampireX> Can anyone help me?
[04:47] <XVampireX> Oh, I'm using edgy eft just so you know
[04:47] <intelikey> Manyfold sorry for the interruption...
[04:47] <Hawkwind> XVampireX: Might try #Ubuntu+1 since that is the Edgy channel
[04:48] <Manyfold> intelikey: i did sudo cat /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride | tr -d '\r' > newfile
[04:48] <Manyfold> intelikey: and newfile still contains 2 lines
[04:49] <Manyfold> :(
 How much I should leave for windows, you mean move the bar until there right?
[04:50] <fildo> XVampireX: restart service / restart game / restart computer !
[04:50] <Manyfold> intelikey: now the whole dpkg system is wholly unusuable
[04:50] <Manyfold> i never had this kind of trouble with emerge
[04:51] <Manyfold> ups shouldn't have said this
[04:51] <purpleposeidon> omar: Well, that depends on how much you still want to leave for windows...... not that I have any idea where 'right there' is. How much space do you have total?
[04:52] <tarmath> waspius: "the computer is slow" is too generic a question... it could be anything, you should try identifying which operations are slow... disk transfer? display-intensive applications? etc?
 i have 40 and i just need windows for powerpoint (for my father and messenger) that' it
[04:55] <XVampireX> fildo: Did all of them
[04:55] <mabreaux> DFM: what speed is that?  A/B/G/N
[04:55] <purpleposeidon> omar: Then just leave like 3 gig for windows then.
 the less posible
 3 sounds a lot for me, and when I start the machine will I get a menu with the two options or something??
[04:58] <purpleposeidon> omar: Yes, you'll get a menu, where you can choose between Linux and windows.
[04:59] <fildo> grubski
[05:00] <Manyfold> intelikey: i solved my problem
[05:00] <waspius> tarmath: but everything is going slow..even if i open konqueror it takes ages...anything i open is it a program or jst an application..it is browsing the net..everything
[05:01] <Hawkwind> waspius: What do you have running currently ?
[05:01] <Hawkwind> waspius: What did 'top' show you in a terminal as far as what's taking up CPU usage
[05:02] <waspius> Hawkwind: currently i am running mplayer...konversation...wireless networking and kopete...in top xorg and kded use the most of the cpu
 thank you so much
[05:03] <Hawkwind> waspius: How much of the CPU do the top 2 entries take up ?
[05:04] <waspius> Hawkwind: around 13%
[05:04] <Hawkwind> waspius: What's mplayer playing ?
[05:04] <Hawkwind> waspius: A movie or music ?
[05:04] <waspius> Hawkwind: i think it has to do with the memory not the cpu...music from online radio
[05:05] <Hawkwind> waspius: How much RAM do you have in the box ?
[05:05] <waspius> Hawkwind: but even if mplayer is not playing and i close everything i have the same problem
[05:05] <waspius> Hawkwind: 512
[05:05] <Hawkwind> waspius: Have you tried restarting X ?
[05:05] <waspius> Hawkwind: i restarted my pc but nothing changed
[05:05] <Hawkwind> waspius: As in you rebooted ?
[05:06] <waspius> Hawkwind: yes
[05:07] <waspius> Hawkwind: at the top part of top where it has the total of all processes..under memory it says 450788k total and 442672k used
[05:07] <Hawkwind> waspius: What does free -m tell you ?
[05:08] <waspius> Hawkwind: total 440 used 426
[05:08] <Hawkwind> waspius: When did this all start....what did you do/change/delete just prior to it happening ?
[05:09] <VanessaE> back
[05:09] <intelikey> not the totals the  +/- buffer/cache line
[05:10] <waspius> Hawkwind: it just started..i dont know..i formated my pc set up everything from the beggining and did nothing to fuck it up...and suddently that is what is happening...is there any chance that because i am running wireless internet everything is being fucked?
[05:11] <Hawkwind> waspius: Please watch the language
[05:11] <waspius> Hawkwind: sorry
[05:11] <intelikey> i just killed X and top/free both report 132m used.  but +/- cached mem  is 22m used
[05:11] <Hawkwind> Were you using the system and it was running fine then the next second it wasn't ?
[05:13] <waspius> Hawkwind: yes
[05:13] <Hawkwind> waspius: Then something changed, and you need to figure out what it was
[05:13] <Hawkwind> waspius: Can you put the system on a wired connection and see if that changes anything ?
[05:14] <waspius> Hawkwind: i could but not now
[05:14] <Hawkwind> waspius: I'd try that ASAP.  Probably won't change anything, but it's one less thing to wonder about
[05:15] <waspius> Hawkwind: otherwise what can i do?
[05:15] <Hawkwind> waspius: No idea to be honest.  Surely something has to be eating up CPU or something
[05:15] <Hawkwind> waspius: Maybe your RAM is going bad, harddrive is dying.  Hard to tell
[05:15] <felixjet> how can i join a irc channel that have a  ?
[05:16] <felixjet> dont works >.<
[05:16] <intelikey> top  check the  %CPU coloumn
[05:16] <waspius> Hawkwind: yeah but in windows i have no such problem
[05:16] <Hawkwind> waspius: That's Windows.  This is linux
[05:16] <Hawkwind> waspius: Windows will allow broken/going bad hardware to work
[05:17] <VanessaE> quite a change really.. I seem to remember a time when it was exactly the opposite :)
[05:17] <VanessaE> (but better linux should reject bad hardware for the sake of stability)
[05:17] <manjunatha> i dont know how to install opera in kubbuntu please help
[05:17] <Hawkwind> sudo apt-get install opera
[05:17] <intelikey> i'm not sure it does VanessaE
[05:17] <VanessaE> manjunatha, go to opera.com and download the ubuntu deb from them
[05:17] <Hawkwind> Assuming you have the right repos
[05:18] <Hawkwind> !info opera
[05:18] <VanessaE> use dpkg -i to install it
[05:18] <ubotu> opera: The Opera Web Browser. In component main, is optional. Version 9.00-20060616.7 (dapper-commercial), package size 5415 kB, installed size 12376 kB (Only available for i386)
[05:18] <fildo> !opera
[05:18] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[05:18] <Hawkwind> VanessaE: Why ?  It's in main and can be apt-get
[05:18] <fildo> i agree
[05:19] <intelikey> if you get the deb from the site you might get a later version bug
[05:19] <Hawkwind> There are debs of the latest in different repos.
[05:20] <intelikey> i think i'm caught up for the time being...
[05:20] <intelikey> yeah i was just sauing.
[05:20] <intelikey> saying
[05:20] <manjunatha> ehen i give this command "sudo apt-get install opera" it is replying that couldn't find packages
[05:20] <Hawkwind> The one I use is from Etch, but it works very well
[05:20] <Hawkwind> manjunatha: Make sure you have all the repos enabled first
[05:20] <fildo> # The Opera browser (packages)
[05:20] <fildo> #deb http://deb.opera.com/opera etch non-free
[05:21] <Hawkwind> fildo: Heh, yeah that's the one :P
[05:21] <fildo> put that in source list
[05:21] <fildo> nod
[05:21] <Hawkwind> I don't always like telling users to use a debian/etch repo
[05:21] <Hawkwind> Though that one is safe, so it's all good
[05:21] <fildo> why not ? its simple i guess
[05:21] <fildo> update / upgrade / or just install
[05:21] <fildo> how hard can it be! then dpkg -i
[05:22] <Hawkwind> fildo: Using debian repos on Ubuntu isn't always safe unfortunately.  They have been known to break things is the point
[05:22] <fildo> but not matter if u compile from src. or install package.
[05:22] <fildo> u will still get the same deps
[05:23] <Hawkwind> Again, not the point
[05:23] <intelikey> hehhe i think i'll try  sed 's/ubuntu/debian/g' sources.list && apt dist-upgrade   :)    any chance the system can take it ?
[05:23] <fildo> deb repos on ubuntu is ur point
[05:24] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee!
[05:24] <dennister> Hawkwind! :)
[05:24] <Hawkwind> intelikey: It'll take the first part atleast :P
[05:24] <Hawkwind> Hey there dennister
[05:24] <intelikey> agreed
[05:24] <dennister> brb
[05:25] <intelikey> i think the syntax is a little different in the sources.list file and i'd have to change the name also... no dapper in debian.
[05:25] <Hobbsee> hey Hawkwind
[05:25] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: How are ya tonight ?
[05:25] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: okay :)  dealing with forum stuff soon, i guess.  work soon too
[05:26] <Hawkwind> Ohhh, forums...they are tons of fun
[05:27] <fildo> work sucks ass!
[05:27] <fildo> but i cannot complain, im at work now
[05:27] <intelikey> you just did
[05:31] <intelikey> hmmm error.  No theme index file in '/usr/share/icons/hicolor'.
[05:31] <Tm_T> :O
[05:31] <intelikey> dpkg erroring out on me
[05:31] <Tm_T> intelikey: reinstall package?
[05:32] <intelikey> Tm_T what package ?
[05:32] <Tm_T> uh
[05:32] <VanessaE> oops, sorry for wandering off..  I wasn't aware opera had been moved into the official repos.  I'm used to downloading the deb and installing manually :)
[05:32] <Tm_T> intelikey: hicolor-icon-theme ?
[05:32] <Tm_T> or is that too obvious?
[05:33] <Tm_T> ;)
[05:33] <fildo> VanessaE: probably better that way just quietly! cause u get new build
[05:33] <Hobbsee> !schedule
[05:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[05:34] <intelikey> Tm_T or remove it ???
[05:34] <Tm_T> intelikey: reinstall, you never wan't to live without it
[05:35] <intelikey> i never want to live with it either...
[05:36] <intelikey> looks like everything kde depends on that package
[05:37] <Tm_T> ofcourse
[05:37] <intelikey> that's a good one to remove to lighten the system i guess
[05:37] <Tm_T> half of icons you see is from there
[05:37] <intelikey> i don't see icons
[05:37] <Tm_T> =)
[05:37] <Tm_T> familiar to mee too
[05:38] <Dsbeerf> someone can help me i do add/remove to add mplayer software i click on any suite but mplayer is in gray unable to click to install it how to fix it ??
[05:38] <intelikey> !mplayer
[05:38] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[05:38] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[05:39] <pacman> Dsbeerf: unless I'm wrong, you can sudo apt-get install mplayer
[05:39] <Dsbeerf> apt-get doenst see this package
[05:39] <pacman> are you root?
[05:39] <intelikey> reiserfs developer arrested ?
[05:39] <martalli> do you have the universe or multiverse repositories open?
[05:40] <Dsbeerf> im as user
[05:40] <Dsbeerf> in adept yes
[05:40] <martalli> the reiserfs developer's wife disappeared - apparently they had a very rocky relationship
[05:40] <Dsbeerf> Package mplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:40] <intelikey> he should have apt-get remove hicolor-icon-theme    maybe
[05:41] <Tm_T> ?!
[05:41] <intelikey> just a thought
[05:43] <Dsbeerf> so what i should do ??
[05:43] <Tm_T> Dsbeerf: well, uh
[05:43] <intelikey> Dsbeerf enable the repos and   update
[05:43] <Tm_T> !mplayer
[05:43] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[05:43] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[05:43] <Tm_T> Dsbeerf: look those
[05:44] <martalli> ...automatix is another option for mplayer, but they have their own channel #automatix
[05:44] <XVampireX> martalli: Speaking of reiser, have you tried reiser4?
[05:44] <Dsbeerf> intelikey, is alrealy done
[05:44] <martalli> I'm a boring ext3 guy myself
[05:45] <intelikey> update ?      or "apply changes"
[05:45] <Dsbeerf> both
[05:45] <XVampireX> martalli: Ah, using reiserfs here, don't know how good reiser4 is
[05:45] <intelikey> Dsbeerf cli would be   sudo apt-get update
[05:45] <XVampireX> I heard it's the fastest and got plugins
[05:45] <intelikey> then install mplayer
[05:46] <Dsbeerf> Reading package lists... Done
[05:46] <martalli> http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/10/10/BAGERLM3RR15.DTL
[05:46] <Dsbeerf> Reading package lists... Done
[05:46] <Dsbeerf> Package mplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:46] <Dsbeerf> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:46] <Dsbeerf> is only available from another source
[05:46] <intelikey> it's avalable.  enable the repos.
[05:46] <martalli> SF Gate is reporting he got arrested, but doesn't even mention reiserfs (is that good or bad?)
[05:47] <intelikey> !repos
[05:47] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:47] <Dsbeerf> all repos is enable
[05:47] <martalli> I think I am going to have to reinstall kubuntu
[05:47] <intelikey> Dsbeerf pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please.
[05:47] <intelikey> !paste
[05:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:48] <Dark-Vampire> !de
[05:48] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:48] <martalli> I am stuck in 800x600...I think dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org  just won't recognize my monitor is 1024x768 capable
[05:49] <Dsbeerf> inc|freaky, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26242/
[05:49] <fildo> martalli: xorg.conf
[05:49] <fildo> martalli: modify it for your video card! and monitor!
[05:49] <intelikey> martalli add -Plow
[05:49] <martalli> -Plow ?
[05:50] <intelikey> yep to the reconfig command
[05:50] <Dsbeerf> intelikey, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26242/
[05:50] <martalli> I'll give it a try, but first I'll check those commands, for leanring's sake
[05:51] <fildo> anyone here use joe ?
[05:51] <intelikey> martalli sorry  lower case.   -plow
[05:51] <Dark-Vampire> how was the command again "sudo getapp install" any like this but anything in it is wrong
[05:51] <intelikey> means priority of question == low
[05:51] <Dsbeerf> intelikey,  so my repos are fine ?
[05:51] <fildo> Dark-Vampire: sudo apt-get install <package>
[05:51] <intelikey> so it asks them all
[05:51] <martalli> OIC
[05:51] <Dark-Vampire> thanks
[05:52] <martalli> I think that would help
[05:52] <intelikey> Dsbeerf looking
[05:53] <intelikey> !info mplayer
[05:53] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[05:53] <Dark-Vampire> fildo: can i get limewire with this command?
[05:53] <intelikey> Dsbeerf nope.
[05:53] <Dsbeerf> what wrong then ?
[05:53] <intelikey> Dsbeerf mplayer is in "multiverse"   add that do line one.
[05:53] <fildo> Dark-Vampire: sudo apt-cache search limewire
[05:53] <Dark-Vampire> thanks
[05:54] <dennister> Dark-Vampire: frostwire, a limewire clone is easily downloaded and installed from .deb package
[05:54] <fildo> !limewire
[05:54] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[05:54] <Dsbeerf> intelikey, which line i have to add ?
[05:55] <intelikey> dsbeerf  make the first line look like this         deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[05:55] <Dsbeerf> intelikey, ok let see
[05:55] <intelikey> save and do    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mplayer
[05:58] <Dsbeerf> aw is fine working now :)
[05:58] <Dsbeerf> thanks
[05:58] <intelikey> Dsbeerf no problem.  you're welcome
[05:59] <Dink> What is a good cpu temp monitor for kubuntu ?
[06:00] <Dr_willis> lm-sensors
[06:00] <Dr_willis> then whatever interface ya like.
[06:00] <Dr_willis> theres karamba desklets, or gkrellm, or proberly some panel applets
[06:00] <intelikey> lm-sensors is about the only option.
[06:00] <Dr_willis> or text based. :)
[06:00] <VanessaE> hm, just got word on slashdot....hans reiser arrested on suspicion of murdering his wife....
[06:00] <VanessaE> oy.
[06:01] <Dr_willis> Big Oy!
[06:01] <mariano_> hi, I did crontab -e and add '*/1 * * * * ls -l > file', but nothing happens. cron is running and crontab -l shows the entry. Any ideas?
[06:01] <intelikey> VanessaE we were talking about that eariler
[06:01] <Dr_willis> i thought cron piped most of the output to /dev/null
[06:01] <VanessaE> I must have missed that discussion then ...eh late as usual
[06:01] <VanessaE> :)
[06:01] <intelikey> :)
[06:01] <Dark_Vampire> and i downloaded the Limewirelinux.rpm from limewire.com but i dont know how to use it
[06:02] <Dr_willis> the > file  may be just getting slurped into null!
[06:02] <Dr_willis> Dark_Vampire,  you dont
[06:02] <Dr_willis> !limewire
[06:02] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[06:02] <Dr_willis> BETTER to use Frostwire.
[06:02] <dennister> Dark_Vampire: always look for a .deb download if u can
[06:02] <Dr_willis> type !FrostWire   and see what the bot tells ya :)
[06:03] <intelikey> not worth repeting but my comment was something like 'maybe he should have just removed the high-color-icon-theme'    but something gets lost in the translation
[06:03] <dennister> it's possible to install .rpm packages, but they're meant for other linux distros
[06:03] <intelikey> VanessaE ^
[06:03] <dennister> like mandriva
[06:03] <Dark_Vampire> ok thanks
[06:03] <ubuntu> can anyone help me
[06:03] <VanessaE> eh...bad joke :)
[06:03] <Dark_Vampire> !java
[06:03] <intelikey> or fedora
[06:03] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[06:03] <ubuntu> ??
[06:03] <dennister> Dark_Vampire: i take it ur on kubuntu?
[06:04] <intelikey> VanessaE yeah....
[06:04] <dennister> a 386 platform?
[06:04] <Dark_Vampire> yes
[06:04] <Dark_Vampire> kubuntu
[06:05] <dennister> k 386 platforms are easier than my amd64...u should be ok with almost all .debs....the ones that are stable
[06:05] <dennister> too late
[06:05] <Dark_Vampire> uhm I still here... just i had disconnect befor that was just my old login
[06:06] <dennister> o i c
[06:06] <dennister> now i can use tab-compeltion more easily :)
[06:06] <fildo> Dark_Vampire: just install azereus or opera. they will both handle torrents
[06:07] <fildo> but many have opinions on azereuz .. memory heavy
[06:07] <dennister> fildo: do u know azureus well?
[06:08] <ubuntu> help!!!!!!!!
[06:08] <fildo> dennister: depends on issue1!
[06:08] <dennister> i'm an experienced azur user from windows platform, but am having unusual difficulties seeding now
[06:08] <intelikey> !help
[06:08] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[06:08] <intelikey> !ask
[06:08] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:08] <VanessaE> haha
[06:08] <VanessaE> a few other channels I've been in could use a comment like that :)
[06:08] <ubuntu> hi ubotu
[06:08] <intelikey> :)
[06:09] <dennister> i'm not natted, but can't seem to find peers to connect to in order to be a good return-seeder
[06:09] <intelikey> !ubotu
[06:09] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[06:09] <mariano_> !cron
[06:09] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. There is a decent howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[06:09] <fildo> ubotu is eggdrop i assume ?
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is eggdrop i assume ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:10] <intelikey> fildo not sure.  but i don't think so
[06:10] <intelikey> !stats
[06:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:10] <fildo> wells its not like it version replies!
[06:10] <dennister> i'm trying to start this azureus install on my newish kubuntu well...but ...
[06:10] <fildo> always a but!
[06:11] <Hawkwind> fildo: He's a heavily modified supybot actually
[06:11] <dennister> heheh...would u know how to improve peer-finding to seed?
[06:11] <intelikey> python  hmmm
[06:12] <ubuntu> hey how can i get help
[06:12] <intelikey> ask a question
[06:12] <intelikey> never know you might get an answer.
[06:12] <intelikey> answers are free.  correct answers on the other hand....
[06:13] <ubuntu> well im starting working with ubuntu, and it worked very well at the begining, printer, network etc
[06:13] <ubuntu> but now i got lots of problems
[06:13] <ubuntu> i have some win machines, like four and six with ubuntu
[06:14] <dennister> ubuntu: i take it ur on livecd mode?
[06:14] <ubuntu> im right now
[06:14] <ubuntu> it's because im in my dad's laptop
[06:15] <Dark_Vampire> how do i know which version of kubuntu i got?
[06:15] <manjunatha> how to have shortcut to opera on desktop
[06:15] <dennister> can u change ur nic so it's easier to speak not to mix u up with the bot?
[06:15] <ubuntu> but at my job i have it in my HD
[06:15] <intelikey> maybe
[06:15] <ubuntu> ok
[06:15] <manjunatha> how to have shortcut to opera on desktop
[06:15] <manjunatha> how to have shortcut to opera on desktop???????????????
[06:15] <intelikey> manjunatha right click on the desktop and create a launcher
[06:15] <limonense> hello
[06:15] <intelikey> or drag and drop the menu listing to the desktop
[06:15] <limonense> i was ubuntu
[06:16] <dennister> limonense: great
[06:16] <limonense> ok
[06:16] <dennister> ok, what specific problems were u starting to get?
[06:16] <manjunatha> thnx
[06:16] <limonense> well my printer doesnt work
[06:16] <Dark_Vampire> how do i know which version of kubuntu i got?
[06:16] <bioticpro> !youtube sound
[06:16] <ubotu> If you aren't getting sound while watching videos on youtube then please read this URL: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1087994
[06:16] <limonense> it's installed in i win machine but shared
[06:17] <fildo> Dark_Vampire: lsb_release -a
[06:17] <dennister> limonense: do u have a good image backup?
[06:17] <intelikey> manjunatha or you could open an editor and make a launcher then save to the desktop dir....   but that's prolly over your present head.
[06:17] <limonense> today i tried to install my printer in my ubuntu machine and i couldn't
[06:17] <fildo> haha
[06:17] <Dark_Vampire> thank you fildo
[06:17] <fildo> limonense: dose it support linux ? have linux drivers ? or a network printer
[06:18] <limonense> yes it does
[06:18] <limonense> my version supports hp printer
[06:18] <dennister> limonense: what kinds of error messages were u getting when u tried to reinstall the priner?
[06:18] <VanessaE> time for bed.  night all.
[06:18] <dennister> *printer
[06:18] <fildo> bed! but i just got up !
[06:19] <limonense> when i tried to print it sent to the printer list the document and never printed it
[06:19] <intelikey> yeah bed.... that thing that sissies use....  :)
[06:19] <intelikey> don't tell vanessaE  i said that.
[06:19] <Dark_Vampire> may I update it somehow? just got 5.04
[06:19] <limonense> well sorry
[06:19] <fildo> lol . u must have some good meth :D
[06:19] <dennister> k; it it possible that it's a cups problem?
[06:20] <fildo> Dark_Vampire: apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:20] <limonense> when i sent the dcoument to print, the printer just never worked
[06:20] <fildo> add sudo infront
[06:20] <Dark_Vampire> thanks again
[06:20] <fildo> nps mate
[06:20] <dennister> when i first tried to install mine i was having the same probs
[06:20] <limonense> i think so
[06:21] <limonense> bcause when the printer was installed on the win machine it worked perfect!
[06:21] <limonense> aha
[06:21] <limonense> im reading
[06:21] <dennister> hmmmmmm (trying to remember what i did)
[06:21] <fildo> yeh probably cause its not supported
[06:21] <intelikey> Dark_Vampire hoary ?
[06:21] <fildo> i have a cannon multi function. not suported by linux!
[06:21] <fildo> so hence i cannot use, unless u use turboprint
[06:22] <dennister> limonense: what r u reading?
[06:22] <Dark_Vampire> intelikey: yes
[06:22] <intelikey> Dark_Vampire i know fildo was answering you.  are you wanting to upgrade hoary to edgy ?
[06:22] <dennister> do u think your reading material might solve the problem for u?
[06:23] <Dark_Vampire> whats the difference?
[06:23] <intelikey> or just update the hoary system   i.e. install any bug fixes / security patches  ?
[06:23] <limonense> i mean im reading you
[06:23] <fildo> cause my way just updates system ..
[06:23] <intelikey> about a year and a half of developement
[06:23] <fildo> dosnt upgrade the distro
[06:24] <intelikey> Dark_Vampire the versioning system is  year.month
[06:24] <dennister> ok...i think your printer isn't installed properly in the cups administration
[06:24] <limonense> what should i do
[06:24] <dennister> it's hard to say cause ur not at ur linux hdd install now, right?
[06:25] <intelikey> Dark_Vampire so 5.04 is april 2005 release.  the latest is 6.10  this month.
[06:25] <limonense> right
[06:25] <dennister> i know you go to a web browser and type in the url field: localhost:631...should take u to ur cups admin page
[06:25] <intelikey> Dark_Vampire there are some improvements in hardware support and multimedia support  other than that hoary is not so different.
[06:25] <limonense> yes
[06:26] <intelikey> Dark_Vampire question.   do you have high speed internet ?
[06:26] <Dark_Vampire> DSL 6000(and in 1Mbit lan)
[06:26] <dennister> then you fiddle with the adminstration tab...it can be hard to do, but that could end up being the solution
[06:27] <fildo> Dark_Vampire: good. ull need it
[06:27] <limonense> and when i try to uninstall my printer using cups it asks for my usarname and passwd and doesnt do anything
[06:27] <dennister> there's not really any point in trying to help you further right now, since you can't implement the suggestions...username for cups admin is just lpadmin
[06:27] <Dark_Vampire> ok... and whats the command to get it?^^
[06:28] <intelikey> Dark_Vampire then upgrading would not be so bad for you.  but you might want to dl the latest install cd / iso   and install along side if you have the disk space   then you can migrate all setting to the new system.
[06:28] <dennister> i don't think u even need to fill in a password, but i could be very mistaken
[06:28] <intelikey> shop and compare
[06:29] <limonense> well thanks, tomorrow ill be back in my pc
[06:29] <dennister> limonense: r there any other problems u'd like to discuss now?
[06:29] <dennister> tomorrow would be better, but u said there were lots of problems
[06:30] <intelikey> limonense better pick his brain now.  tomarrow you might only find me    8*|
[06:30] <dennister> lol...i'm a newbie intelikey
[06:30] <intelikey> sssh  don't tell him
[06:31] <dennister> lol
[06:31] <intelikey> :)
[06:31] <limonense> ok
[06:31] <limonense> my next problem is my netword
[06:31] <dennister> i'm just glad i can help someone...i've gotten so much assistance here from others
[06:31] <limonense> network
[06:32] <intelikey> if i can remember it....
[06:32] <dennister> stop it intelikey! :)
[06:32] <intelikey> oh sorry
[06:32] <dennister> lol
[06:33] <dennister> limonense: do u have one ethernet card, or more than 1?
[06:33] <intelikey> you guys crack me up some times
[06:33] <limonense> interlikey whats ur problem
[06:33] <dennister> laughter is great mental health exercise and medicine
[06:33] <dennister> he's just being silly...don't mind him
[06:34] <limonense> ok
[06:34] <intelikey> limonense just getting a chuckel now and then out of typos and other humourous things
[06:34] <dennister> so i ethernet card or 2
[06:34] <limonense> well my ubuntu sys used to be on the Ms networdddddd
[06:34] <intelikey> limonense i'm not trying to be mean.
[06:34] <dennister> typos can be so hilarious...and we all do them
[06:34] <limonense> ok i got it
[06:35] <dennister> back to the network problem: 2 ethernet card or just one?
[06:35] <intelikey> !samba
[06:35] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:35] <limonense> but now it doesnt work
[06:36] <limonense> yes i got samba
[06:36] <limonense> but i need to cofigure it
[06:37] <intelikey> i honestly am about network illiterate, i've never setup a samba config  nor  an eth# for that matter.
[06:37] <dennister> limonense: samba aside...pls answer my question: 2 ethernet cards or just one?
[06:37] <dennister> that has to be taken care of first
[06:38] <limonense> just one
[06:38] <dennister> k can you surf?
[06:38] <limonense> surf???
[06:38] <dennister> surf the net
[06:38] <dennister> do google searches and stuff
[06:38] <intelikey> browse the internet/entranet
[06:39] <limonense> yes i can
[06:39] <limonense> hahaha im an  idiot
[06:39] <dennister> good; that means the other things, like samba and cups, are fixable
[06:39] <KaiHanari> sorry for the spam, script troubles.... its over now.
[06:40] <limonense> aha
[06:40] <dennister> lol...
[06:40] <intelikey> KaiHanari ?
[06:40] <KaiHanari> intelikey, my join / quit spam.
[06:40] <intelikey> i'm not seeing any
[06:40] <dennister> k trick with a lot of things to do with samba can be done through system settings
[06:41] <intelikey> -:- KaiHanari
[06:41] <intelikey>           [n=kaihanar@stjhnf0122w-142162038063.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.n
[06:41] <intelikey>           et]  has joined #kubuntu
[06:41] <KaiHanari> intelikey, you joined after it all then
[06:41] <dennister> rule is: if you don't know what something means, leave it to default settings...unless you've changed it extensively already
[06:41] <fildo> ne1 setup swat ?
[06:41] <limonense> and how can i conf samba smb:...
[06:41] <fildo> im wondering if i should.! but my conf. is good
[06:42] <fildo> sudo joe /etc/samba/smb.conf
[06:42] <intelikey> oh the join / repetes KaiHanari heh ok.
[06:42] <fildo> opps. cause my text editor is joe
[06:42] <limonense> i read i can access the samba server using konqueror right?
[06:43] <dennister> samba has a section in system settings...another program i like for my lamp server here is something called webmin, but don't bother if you don't have a lamp serer
[06:43] <intelikey> KaiHanari i see them but i'm so accustom to ignoring them as they scroll by that it didn't regester with me.
[06:43] <dennister> limonense: when your samba is working you can access the other computers through konqueror
[06:43] <intelikey> so what kind of script ?
[06:44] <dennister> being able to see it and the other computers in konqueror is key
[06:44] <dennister> if you can see them, samba's working
[06:44] <Dark_Vampire> uhm fildo?
[06:44] <limonense> well how do i do it?
[06:45] <limonense> i was looking for a samba GUI i found some but they didn't work, or maybe i didnt work
[06:45] <fildo> uhm ?
[06:45] <intelikey> joe is good
[06:45] <fildo> indeed
[06:45] <Dark_Vampire> lab_release  - a say i still got the 5.04 version?
[06:45] <intelikey> if you like vi
[06:45] <fildo> better then vi
[06:45] <fildo> :P
[06:45] <limonense> and my boss is about to kick my ass out
[06:45] <dennister> setup your own shares first...make sure other comptuers are sharing their drives...
[06:45] <cpk2> limonense: you tried swat?
[06:46] <intelikey> yea but if you don't like vi to begin with you wont like joe either
[06:46] <fildo> swat just webbased config right ?
[06:46] <dennister> chances are that the other computers are sharing...it's just ur pc
[06:46] <limonense> cpk2: no i didnt
[06:46] <cpk2> limonense: all though samba is pretty easy to set up, you really shouldnt need a gui
[06:46] <dennister> yes, that's what swat is...gui config for samba
[06:46] <limonense> ok
[06:46] <Dark_Vampire> lab_release - a say i still got the 5.04 version? @ fildo
[06:47] <dennister> i use webmin instead of swat, but hten again i have a lamp server which isn't needed by desktop-only isntallations
[06:47] <intelikey> slb_realeas
[06:47] <cpk2> limonense: do you already have samba set up and everything?
[06:47] <intelikey> lsb
[06:47] <intelikey> hehhe me tooo
[06:47] <fildo> hoary!
[06:47] <limonense> yes i do
[06:47] <intelikey> lsb_release   ther i finally got it.
[06:48] <cpk2> then why even bother with using a gui? once its set up you really shouldnt need much admin after that?
[06:48] <dennister> cpk2: it stopped working for him
[06:48] <dennister> that and a few other things
[06:49] <limonense> well i cant see my friend's computers
[06:49] <cpk2> oh well thats no good
[06:49] <cpk2> limonense: but you can ping your friend's computers?
[06:49] <Dark_Vampire> fildo ant intlikey: so on horay i can just version 5.04? and is there a way to get edgy without reinstall the full system?
[06:49] <limonense> nop
[06:49] <dennister> do you know how to restart samba if it doesn't initialize at boot?
[06:50] <fildo> yeh u can mirgrate system
[06:50] <intelikey> Dark_Vampire not really.  you are skipping two releases
[06:50] <fildo> brb gotta actually do some work
[06:50] <limonense> i guess...
[06:50] <dennister> another trick with samba is: after every change you make to samba, do a "testparm" command
[06:50] <dennister> hold on...bback in a sec
[06:50] <cpk2> limonense: you guys cant even ping each other?
[06:50] <yonkeltron> will python 2.5 be included in edgy?
[06:50] <intelikey> 5.04 > 5.10 > 6.06 > 6.10
[06:51] <dennister> testparm /etc/samba/smb.conf -d -f
[06:51] <fildo> testparm .. nice command
[06:51] <fildo> mental note on that one
[06:52] <dennister> then it may give you clues through error messages in how to fix it
[06:52] <Dark_Vampire> so i have to download the full CD, burn ist, and install it again? :( (just done that yesterday... the installation of kubuntu, not the download)
[06:52] <cpk2> you can upgrade versions via apt-get
[06:52] <intelikey> Dark_Vampire what cd did you dl ?
[06:53] <Dark_Vampire> the Kubuntu CD... but this is much time ago now...
[06:53] <yonkeltron> any zeroconf gurus in here?
[06:53] <Dark_Vampire> i had kubuntu before but anyway i didnt used it long time... now again^^
[06:53] <dennister> you should be using that testparm after every single change you make, then restart samba
[06:53] <limonense> ok
[06:54] <jose> hola
[06:54] <dennister> that way you can see if the change you've made has worked
[06:54] <jose> i am new in kubuntu
[06:54] <dennister> limonense: do you ever use partimage for true image-type backups?
[06:55] <jose> nadie abla espaol
[06:55] <intelikey> and actually no you don't have to.  you can sed 's/hoary/edgy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade     but be prepared to fix all kinds of querks and bugs and other broken gizmos
[06:55] <limonense> no i never whats that
[06:55] <jose> i need amsn in kubuntu
[06:55] <dennister> k download something called systemrescuecd and burn it to a cd
[06:56] <limonense> ok i will
[06:56] <intelikey> i upgraded from hoary to dapper  that way.   but it's not for the linux newbee nor the faint of heart
[06:56] <dennister> it's another livecd...but with mostly utilities like qtparted and partimage
[06:56] <intelikey> @ Dark_Vampire
[06:56] <dennister> once you have your pc working optimally, use partimage for true backups
[06:57] <jose> i need amsn
[06:57] <dennister> partimage is like Norton's ghost or Acronis Tue Image
[06:57] <limonense> so i can make my backups?
[06:57] <intelikey> !amsn
[06:57] <dennister> I love Acronis for windows myself
[06:57] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[06:57] <jose> si
[06:57] <limonense> oooo norton ghost
[06:57] <intelikey> jose so install it
[06:57] <dennister> limonense: i'd rather not overload you with too much info tonight
[06:58] <Dark_Vampire> i see... then i should not try it couse i am a newbee^^ (ok problems can be very good to make new experiences but... :D like i will never forget the command "umount -l" ;) )
[06:58] <limonense> im saving all ur saying...
[06:58] <dennister> downloading systemrescuecd tonight will help you eventually...but when u get your system working properly
[06:58] <intelikey> !repos > jose
[06:59] <maryen> edgy eft is getting 3.5.5 kde
[06:59] <maryen> weep all ye mortals
[06:59] <intelikey> Dark_Vampire :)    if you can fix things from the console, go for it.   cause i assure you that it will break X for you.
[06:59] <dennister> to use partimage, you boot with the livecd, it's a commandline prompt, and becaue the OS is in ram only, none of your hdd's are mounted
[06:59] <maryen> we're getting that next week
[07:00] <intelikey> and probably also break grub  (actually just the initramfs.img file)
[07:00] <dennister> mount something, but not the drive you want to backup
[07:00] <Dark_Vampire> i like to use the console, but fix anything right now... better not ;)
[07:00] <Dark_Vampire> so ill download a new CD
[07:00] <CelloG> anyone here gotten ATI Radeon X1300 graphics card to work?
[07:01] <jose> nadie habla espaol?
[07:01] <CelloG> sorry, with fbglrx instead of vesa
[07:01] <limonense> si yo hablo espanol
[07:02] <limonense> que paso jose
[07:02] <Hawkwind> !es
[07:02] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:02] <jose> hola que mas
[07:02] <jose> al fin
[07:02] <jose> ok ok
[07:02] <dennister> to mount, say hda5 (where you want to save your backup image) you first "mkdir /dev/hda5 /mnt/mkdir" r
[07:02] <jose> limonense que mas
[07:02] <limonense> dennister
[07:02] <Hawkwind> dennister: Not quite
[07:02] <dennister> where the second 'mkdir' is anything you want
[07:02] <jose> necesito unas aclaraciones
[07:03] <Hawkwind> dennister: /dev/hda5 already exists
[07:03] <limonense> dennister: ok
[07:03] <dennister> Hawkwind: yes, i know,
[07:03] <limonense> a ver dime jose
[07:03] <Hawkwind> You don't mkdir in /dev at all
[07:03] <dennister> k...ur right...i've forgotten
[07:03] <jose> ok yo kiero instalar el amsn como ago pana
[07:04] <Hawkwind> sudo mkdir /mnt/some-mount-point && sudo mount /dev/hda5 /mnt/some-mount-point
[07:04] <dennister> it's just mkdir /mnt/<anything u want>
[07:04] <Hawkwind> jose: English only please
[07:04] <dennister> that's better...
[07:04] <dennister> limonense: Hawkwind really knows his stuff; i'm a noob, remember
[07:04] <intelikey> would ubotu post in the lang of other channels ?
[07:04] <limonense> jose si quieres entra a  #ubuntu-es ahi estoy yo tambien
[07:05] <intelikey> or is ubotu even in other channels ?
[07:05] <jose> ok ya me meto
[07:05] <dennister> Hawkwind: i was trying to explain how to use partimage from the systemrescuecd
[07:05] <Hawkwind> intelikey: /whois ubotu and see
[07:05] <limonense> who is ubotu
[07:05] <Hawkwind> limonense: It's a factoid bot
[07:05] <intelikey> Hawkwind but it's in #ubuntu also
[07:06] <intelikey> another instance
[07:06] <limonense> woa
[07:06] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Right.  If you trigger him here, he only posts here
[07:06] <Hawkwind> Same instance
[07:06] <dennister> and u were ubotu when u first came into this irc channel
[07:06] <intelikey> so whois isn't going to show
[07:06] <dennister> but that's because you were on livecd mode b4 you changed ur nic
[07:07] <intelikey> whois ubotu shows   | channels : #kubuntu
[07:07] <Hawkwind> [12:06am]  Channels )-> #ubuntu-ops #ubuntu-motu #kubuntu-devel #kubuntu
[07:07] <CelloG> from the live CD, how do I mount /dev/sda1?
[07:07] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Depends on channel modes that are set, and what channels you are in with the bot
[07:07] <dennister> because you had the same nic as the bot, that's precisely why I asked u to change it
[07:07] <intelikey> yeah channels you are in
[07:08] <dennister> Hawkwind: it's sooooooo fast!
[07:08] <Hawkwind> dennister: His original nick was ubuntu.  You can't have the same nick twice on the same irc network
[07:08] <Dark_Vampire> intelikey: i have found a site where i read that i should not use edgy right now if Im not a experienced user who want to test it, becouse its a alpha version right now...
[07:08] <dennister> :)
[07:08] <limonense> hehe
[07:08] <intelikey> Dark_Vampire it's set to release this month
[07:08] <dennister> oops...limonsense, that's right, ur original nic was the same as the bot...i did a typo
[07:08] <intelikey> you may be dl'ing the final or if not then it will only be one or two updates away
[07:08] <Tm_T> intelikey: exactly, "will be in release condition"
[07:09] <Hawkwind> intelikey: ubotu is set to +i which is invisible.  Meaning, you only see the channels you and he are both in in his whois info.
[07:09] <Tm_T> intelikey: so don't instruct people who are not experienced to use alpha-beta stuff please ;)
[07:10] <Tm_T> it's just not wise
[07:10] <morghanphoenix> Okay, is there a known bug regarding cd & dvd drives getting stuck trying to read media even when it's not in?
[07:10] <dennister> I'm finally getting some speed in ktorrent here
[07:10] <intelikey> Tm_T is it not ready yet ?
[07:10] <limonense> ok dennister, interlikey and hawkwind
[07:10] <Hawkwind> intelikey: No, not til the 26th
[07:10] <morghanphoenix> Or did I break it in a new way?
[07:10] <limonense> thank you all
[07:10] <Tm_T> intelikey: it's not released, so you can't expect it to be ready
[07:10] <Hawkwind> !schedule > intelikey
[07:10] <dennister> no probs limonsense
[07:10] <limonense> i got go to sleep
[07:10] <dennister> yes, and come back tomorrow when ur at ur pc
[07:10] <intelikey> oh two weeks
[07:10] <limonense> gotta go to slleep
[07:11] <dennister> help will be more effective then
[07:11] <limonense> what time do guys are online?
[07:11] <Tm_T> intelikey: you expect there's two weeks of waiting? =)
[07:11] <limonense> in the morning?
[07:11] <dennister> there's always someone here...it's inernational
[07:11] <Hawkwind> limonense: All day and night.  We never leave actually
[07:11] <intelikey> Tm_T nope i expect that there will be one update in the iso  maybe two.
[07:11] <dennister> *international
[07:11] <Hawkwind> intelikey: There will be hundreds
[07:11] <morghanphoenix> Sleep, I think I forgot what that is.
[07:11] <limonense> wow thats a good thing
[07:12] <Hawkwind> intelikey: In fact, tomorrow all of KDE 3.5.5 will be there
[07:12] <dennister> Hawkwind: where?
[07:12] <morghanphoenix> Now rebooting I seem to do a lot
[07:12] <Hawkwind> dennister: In Edgy
[07:12] <limonense> ok thanks again bye
[07:12] <dennister> ahhh
[07:12] <Tm_T> intelikey: yes but in packages... oh boy it's the most busy two weeks in release lifetime
[07:13] <dennister> have the kde folks fixed thekat problems?
[07:13] <intelikey> yeah.
[07:14] <intelikey> actually all i really have to go by is what they/you did with dapper.   i was running the final a week before the release
[07:14] <intelikey> but i guess that is not normal maybe
[07:15] <dennister> back when i was still struggling with the mandriva amd64 installation(s) kat was giving me all sorts of problems
[07:15] <digivore_> can someone explain this to me.. trying to do some updates, and i get this message in konsole
[07:15] <Tm_T> intelikey: I used dapper from third week of development =)
[07:15] <digivore_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:15] <digivore_>   libtag1-dev: Depends: libtag1c2a (= 1.4-3) but 1.4-4~dapper1 is to be installed
[07:15] <fildo> lshw < good command
[07:15] <intelikey> Tm_T not final
[07:15] <dennister> at least i think it was causing the installations to fall apart with all the crashes
[07:15] <dennister> i'd read about bugs in kat
[07:15] <dennister> anyway, i'm offtopic i think
[07:16] <Tm_T> intelikey: yeah, I lived with dapper its whole 8-month development, what a ride it was
[07:16] <Tm_T> but now I'm gone ->
[07:17] <pierre_> good day to ya all
[07:17] <pierre_> someone here using the last.fm radio streams?
[07:17] <intelikey> and to answer the question asked eariler.   yes i do expect there to be little change if any the last week
[07:17] <fildo> gone to where Tim_t
[07:17] <intelikey> it's not like you can rewrite a major app one week before release
[07:18] <intelikey> or should i say.  shouldn't
[07:20] <intelikey> now Dark_Vampire.    in reply  the release is in two weeks there about.   if you want to wait for the official release of edgy.    i'd still upgrade if i was going too.     (i don't expect to ever see edgy)
[07:20] <fildo> me neither
[07:20] <fildo> im happy with breezy server . n dapper desktop
[07:21] <intelikey> never saw slimy or what ever it was   oh yeah breezy
[07:22] <Dark_Vampire> I'm downloading the CD at the moment :)
[07:22] <intelikey> ^5
[07:23] <pierre_> someone here who can help to get very fast my files from a computer with windows xp?
[07:25] <intelikey> pierre_ can you put that in intelikey'ish so i can tell what you are asking ?
[07:25] <intelikey> what running OS  are the files local or network access ?
[07:25] <Blacken> pierre_: Two ways: Set up an FTP on a server and throw them at it (or SCP if you're going over the 'net), or put them on some sort of removable storage.
[07:26] <pierre_> and i cant make a network connection and share the files?
[07:26] <pierre_> cause the computer can be connected with a crossover cable to my laptop
[07:26] <Hawkwind> Or NFS, or Samba.  Certainly more than 2 ways
[07:26] <pierre_> samba is installed at my kubunut already i guess
[07:26] <pierre_> so probably thats the way
[07:27] <Blacken> Hawkwind: I didn't say there were ONLY two ways...:p
[07:27] <Blacken> Hawkwind: Just two quick ones offhand.
[07:29] <dennister> g'nite pps
[07:29] <intelikey> scp if you can access the M$ box with ssh
[07:30] <intelikey> scp is your friend
[07:30] <pierre_> h m dont know, i am newbie
[07:30] <pierre_> hehe
[07:30] <physicsnick> hi, i just created a link to a bad resource in remote:/
[07:30] <physicsnick> now it won't let me edit or delete the thing
[07:30] <physicsnick> how do i get rid of it?
[07:32] <morghanphoenix> kdesu konqueror?
[07:32] <morghanphoenix> oops
[07:32] <morghanphoenix> I need sleep
[07:33] <physicsnick> no, the links only exist for my user
[07:33] <physicsnick> the links aren't in remote:/ for root
[07:33] <neddiW> hi to all
[07:33] <maryen> hi
[07:33] <morghanphoenix> ello
[07:34] <neddiW> how do i configure ZEROCONF, in my kubuntu?
[07:34] <neddiW> maryen, morphanphoenix, hi
[07:35] <intelikey> physicsnick then the settings are some place in ~/.kde/*       grep -HiRe'remote' ~/.kde    should help you find it.
[07:36] <intelikey> never done that but it should work... may produce lots of output or only a few lines.
[07:36] <physicsnick> blarg, nothing interesting
[07:37] <physicsnick> the link is probably a file somewhere. it's a link like any other, like a mount point or whatever
[07:37] <physicsnick> the fact that it lies in remote:/ is probably irrelevant
[07:37] <physicsnick> why on earth does ubuntu not let you delete links?
[07:38] <intelikey> physicsnick i doubt it's a symlink  but on the outside chance it is.    find ~/.kde -name <insert the name here>
[07:38] <physicsnick> nothing
[07:39] <physicsnick> is it recursive?
[07:39] <physicsnick> i'm pretty sure it's a symlink
[07:39] <physicsnick> i'm doing find / -name <name> right now
[07:39] <physicsnick> searching the whole damn drive
[07:40] <intelikey> physicsnick    find ~/.kde -type l
[07:40] <intelikey> that'll list them all
[07:40] <physicsnick> nothing interesting
[07:40] <intelikey> physicsnick it's not going to be outside your home if other users dont see it..   i.e. root   :/
[07:40] <morghanphoenix> Anybody know an MP3 ripper that has good error correction?
[07:41] <morghanphoenix> KAudioCreator keeps getting hun up on my CDs.
[07:41] <morghanphoenix> *hung
[07:41] <physicsnick> intelikey, sure it could. maybe the file is actually called, say, nick.<name> and they all lie in the same folder
[07:41] <physicsnick> who knows how konqueror parses what it shows in remote:/
[07:41] <intelikey> i still say it's a url not a link
[07:42] <physicsnick> okay
[07:42] <intelikey> physicsnick did you have to give a passwd to make it ?
[07:42] <physicsnick> well how do i delete it?
[07:42] <physicsnick> nope
[07:42] <intelikey> then you have write access to the dir it's in.
[07:42] <physicsnick> good point
[07:43] <physicsnick> i clicked System Menu -> Remote Places, clicked Add a Network Folder, and typed in the wrong server address
[07:43] <intelikey> could be /tmp/     but prolly $HOME
[07:43] <physicsnick> and it happily added the resource, and it won't let me modify or delete it
[07:44] <intelikey> i never mess with that pointy clicky thingy   ...
[07:44] <physicsnick> argh
[07:44] <physicsnick> it lets me rename the link but it won't let me delete it
[07:44] <physicsnick> this is ludicrous
[07:45] <intelikey> umount it ?
[07:45] <intelikey> heh
[07:45] <physicsnick> i had the same problem a year ago in breezy. i made a link to /media/data/tv on my desktop, and it wouldn't let me delete the damn thing afterwards
[07:45] <physicsnick> AFDSGJA FDKGJDAFJAGFDAGF
[07:47] <maryen> !edgy
[07:47] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:47] <maryen> when is edgy coming out
[07:47] <physicsnick> the 28th i believe
[07:47] <intelikey> physicsnick care to try something ?     close all apps and switch to a console  and    tar -czf ~/backup-kde.tgz ~/.kde && rm -fr ~/.kde       logout  and back in.   i bet it fixes it..  but it will reset all your kde.
[07:48] <physicsnick> alright, hold on, lemme rejoin in irssi
[07:48] <physicsnick> *sigh*
[07:49] <physicsnick> alright x is down
[07:49] <physicsnick> what command did you want me to run?
[07:49] <intelikey> physicsnick care to try something ?     close all apps logout and switch to a console;    tar -czf ~/backup-kde.tgz ~/.kde && rm -fr ~/.kde           then login.   i bet it fixes it..  but it will reset all your kde.
[07:49] <physicsnick> thx
[07:49] <physicsnick> woah
[07:49] <physicsnick> alright
[07:50] <intelikey> you can restore from the backup file.
[07:50] <physicsnick> how recent is that backup?
[07:50] <intelikey> you just made it.
[07:50] <bmo> what's even easier than backing up the .kde directory is just renaming it to something like .kde.arf
[07:50] <physicsnick> yeah i was just going to say that bmo
[07:50] <physicsnick> but intelikey, what do you mean i just made it?
[07:50] <bmo> mv .kde .kde.arf
[07:50] <physicsnick> it's no good if it backed it up after i made the link
[07:51] <intelikey> tar -czf ~/backup-kde.tgz ~/.kde   will make a backup of your settings.
[07:51] <physicsnick> oh, wait
[07:51] <physicsnick> i understand now
[07:51] <bmo> then when you log back in, kde will create a new .kde
[07:51] <physicsnick> yeah, no, i definitely cannot have that
[07:51] <physicsnick> i already have a huge amount of configuration in kde
[07:51] <intelikey> and you don't have an odd folder hanging around in your home.
[07:51] <physicsnick> ok well just to try it
[07:51] <physicsnick> i'll see if it's still there when i log in
[07:51] <bmo> you can always undo it
[07:52] <intelikey> sure.
[07:53] <physicsnick> oh, wow
[07:53] <physicsnick> the fonts are wonderful
[07:53] <physicsnick> i upgraded from dapper with xgl, where i had all sorts of settings
[07:53] <physicsnick> basically my fonts are a mess
[07:53] <physicsnick> they look really good with the default settings
[07:53] <bmo> hah
[07:53] <intelikey> bmo actually i find that some people like the idea of dropping that tgz to a disk for later use so ...
[07:53] <physicsnick> heh
[07:54] <bmo> can't you copy the default .kde fonts config to your old .kde?
[07:54] <intelikey> physicsnick is the link gone ?
[07:54] <physicsnick> oh well, i intend to format the thing and reinstall edgy when it comes out anyway
[07:54] <physicsnick> bmo: probably, but i don't know how to do that. anyway it's not just the fonts, its the sizes and stuff
[07:54] <intelikey> the link   the link ?
[07:54] <intelikey> what about the link
[07:55] <physicsnick> i had installed some of the font packs from automatix, and i had changed all the sizes because xgl fonts are screwed up
[07:55] <physicsnick> the link's gone
[07:55] <physicsnick> so it's definitely in .kde somewhere
[07:55] <intelikey> i told you so !
[07:55] <intelikey> i told you so !
[07:55] <intelikey> i told you so !
[07:55] <physicsnick> :)
[07:55] <intelikey> :)
[07:56] <physicsnick> uhohes
[07:56] <physicsnick> i did mv .kdeBAK .kde
[07:56] <physicsnick> after stopping x
[07:56] <physicsnick> then i started x again
[07:56] <physicsnick> and it's still on default config <.< >.>
[07:56] <physicsnick> looks like it decided to not overwrite and not warn me
[07:57] <intelikey> told you to make a tgz
[07:57] <physicsnick> yeah
[07:57] <intelikey> i told you so !
[07:57] <intelikey> i told you so !
[07:57] <intelikey> i told you so !
[07:57] <bmo> in .kde/share/config, there are fonts in fsviewrc, kdeglobals, kdesktoprc
[07:57] <physicsnick> heh
[07:57] <physicsnick> well looks like i'm stuck with the default config
[07:57] <physicsnick> at least i got rid of that damn link
[07:57] <intelikey> lol
[07:58] <noiesmo> anyone done a successful upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[07:58] <intelikey> hey it's not my fault if you do something to your box that i didn't say... :)
[07:58] <physicsnick> noiesmo: yes, lots of people, myself for example
[07:58] <noiesmo> physicsnick, cool
[07:58] <bmo> I haven't had a successful one yet
[07:58] <physicsnick> i'm on kubuntu edgy upgraded from dapper
[07:58] <bmo> probably because I've done automatix
[07:58] <noiesmo> physicsnick, you using xgl compiz etc
[07:58] <physicsnick> and as of 30 seconds ago, it works as it should, because i just nuked my .kde :(
[07:59] <physicsnick> noiesmo: i was using xgl and beryl yes
[07:59] <physicsnick> i upgraded to edgy to use xorg 7.1 and beryl
[07:59] <intelikey> physicsnick actually the problem you hit was that you mv'd files to .kde then closed the running kde which overwrote everything you just wrote.
[07:59] <physicsnick> but i haven't managed to install the beta nvidia driver
[07:59] <physicsnick> intelikey: no, i closed kde first
[07:59] <intelikey> it's called auto-save session
[07:59] <noiesmo> physicsnick, aah ok
[07:59] <intelikey> really ?
[07:59] <physicsnick> i also have auto-save session turned off
[07:59] <physicsnick> yessir
[08:00] <physicsnick> i did sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[08:00] <physicsnick> then mv .kdeBAK .kde
[08:00] <physicsnick> then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[08:00] <intelikey> well i missed that one.   it shoudl have restored it.
[08:00] <physicsnick> yep
[08:00] <physicsnick> i should have done cp
[08:00] <cpt|willard> i just upgraded to the beta on my laptop and it doesn't work so i was wondering how to go about downgrading it back to an older version
[08:00] <intelikey> or made the tar file
[08:00] <physicsnick> :)
[08:01] <physicsnick> i can't wait until edgy comes out for real, and until the new nvidia driver leaves beta
[08:02] <maryen> why dont you just use dapper now physic
[08:02] <maryen> ?
[08:02] <physicsnick> maryen: because i like bleeding edge :)
[08:02] <maryen> er
[08:02] <physicsnick> i'll probably just use xgl again, i still have it installed
[08:02] <intelikey> you can have it.
[08:02] <maryen> i mean why dont you just use edgy now
[08:02] <maryen> lol
[08:02] <physicsnick> maryen, i am using edgy now
[08:02] <intelikey> he is
[08:02] <physicsnick> but i want to reformat when it comes out of beta
[08:02] <maryen> ah
[08:02] <maryen> why?
[08:02] <physicsnick> because i upgraded from dapper
[08:03] <maryen> im liking all the packages we're getting today
[08:03] <intelikey> physicsnick yeah why ?
[08:03] <physicsnick> well, lots of stuff seems a little iffy
[08:03] <physicsnick> for example all my fonts were screwed up, although as of five minutes ago that's fixed
[08:03] <intelikey> i upgraded from hoary to dapper  but that don't make me want to reformat
[08:03] <physicsnick> but i can't install the nvidia driver, which is annoying
[08:03] <maryen> why not?
[08:03] <physicsnick> no idea
[08:03] <maryen> just use the script install
[08:03] <physicsnick> here's what it does
[08:03] <physicsnick> the script says i'm missing kernel headers
[08:03] <physicsnick> so it compiles them itself
[08:04] <physicsnick> then i can start x, and it seems to work
[08:04] <physicsnick> but beryl crashes.
[08:04] <maryen> did you install the driver from the packages first?
[08:04] <physicsnick> but if i restart the computer, x won't start, it says something about wrong kernel headers and dumps me to a terminal
[08:04] <physicsnick> maryen, yes
[08:04] <physicsnick> that one doesn't work with aiglx
[08:05] <maryen> go and remove and purge all packages having to do with nvidia
[08:05] <intelikey> physicsnick it sounds like a kernel version/subversion issue
[08:05] <maryen> like nvidia-kernel
[08:05] <physicsnick> um... i typed sudo apt-get remove nvidia*
[08:05] <maryen> i uninstalled nvidia-kernel-common and source and that fixed the problem
[08:05] <physicsnick> and it's saying it wants to remove linux-386* among a variety of other packages that i definitely need
[08:06] <intelikey> like the headers are compiling without the  -37.ubuntu.586  or what ever subversion
[08:06] <maryen> all i know is i removed those packages and reinstalled the driver and it works now
[08:06] <intelikey> you don't need linux-386  it's a meta package
[08:06] <physicsnick> ooh
[08:06] <physicsnick> okay
[08:07] <physicsnick> if you say so
[08:07] <physicsnick> doing a --purge nvidia*, hopefully my computer doesn't explode
[08:07] <maryen> i was getting the same error btw
[08:07] <physicsnick> after this should i try installing the beta driver?
[08:07] <intelikey> it depends on linux-restricded-modules & linux-image-386 (the kernel package)
[08:07] <maryen> about it having headers for 7186 or whatever
[08:07] <maryen> the one before the current driver
[08:08] <physicsnick> alright
[08:08] <intelikey> physicsnick wait
[08:08] <intelikey> maybe i should rephrase
[08:08] <physicsnick> it's telling me it already has a driver installed
[08:09] <intelikey> you dont need linux-386 unless you need some of the restricted moduls for ndiswarper or something.
[08:09] <physicsnick> the beta driver installer that is
[08:09] <maryen> add the --uninstall tag when executing the script
[08:09] <physicsnick> it uninstalled, but gave me a bunch of warnings
[08:09] <physicsnick> probably because i purged nvidia* before uninstalling it
[08:10] <maryen> eh it should be fine
[08:10] <maryen> oh ya, to make it where the driver doesnt make all your fonts extra huge, do sudo nvidia-xconfig --no-use-edid-dpi
[08:10] <physicsnick> starting kde
[08:11] <intelikey> ah this is bull krap. df says     udev                  4.2G  2.5G  1.8G  58% /dev     but there is nothing mounted on /dev
[08:12] <physicsnick> yeah so it started up, as it always did when i installed the driver
[08:12] <physicsnick> i have the latest svn of beryl, should i use that or the 0.1 release?
[08:12] <maryen> hey physic, you using a dual core processor?
[08:14] <intelikey> well i guess there is.   the initrd must mount root on /dev/ then mount /dev/root on /root   but that makes no sense at all.
[08:15] <intelikey> the output of df is screwy here.   i guess because i don't use udev maybe.  ?
[08:16] <physicsnick> maryen: yes, but right now i'm running the 386
[08:16] <physicsnick> i used the sms kernel in dapper, beryl worked fine on both
[08:16] <xenoterracide> how do I get kubuntu to rember my iptables rules on restart?
[08:16] <physicsnick> i want to get everything working on 386 first, then i'll switch to sms
[08:16] <xenoterracide> s/rember/remember
[08:16] <maryen> do dmesg on the smp
[08:17] <intelikey> xenoterracide script it.
[08:17] <xenoterracide> do I have to write my own init script?
[08:17] <maryen> if it has a line talking about mmconfig, add pci=nommconf to your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:17] <physicsnick> wicked, it works
[08:17] <physicsnick> you're a life saver maryen
[08:17] <xenoterracide> gentoo saves them on shutdown.
[08:17] <physicsnick> now i hope this driver stays when i reboot
[08:17] <maryen> it will
[08:17] <physicsnick> gonna reboot now
[08:17] <physicsnick> thanks
[08:17] <maryen> k
[08:18] <xenoterracide> I have script to generate rules but it's not designed for init
[08:18] <intelikey> xenoterracide no.  you just have to dump the settings someplace and add a command to restore them to something like /etc/rc.local
[08:18] <intelikey> xenoterracide not designed for init ?
[08:18] <intelikey> shell script ?
[08:19] <xenoterracide> yeah
[08:19] <intelikey> just call it from rc.local
[08:19] <xenoterracide> k
[08:20] <xenoterracide> I'll probably just throw an iptables-restore in local
[08:20] <intelikey> unless you are paranoid and want the firewall before the network comes on line.  then put it in /etc/init.d/network   maybe.
[08:21] <xenoterracide> doubtfull
[08:22] <xenoterracide> this computer is eventually going to be behind my gentoo router
[08:22] <xenoterracide> well it is now but I don't have any real firewall in routing
[08:27] <Brydenn33> are there ANY dc++ programs for LINUX?
[08:28] <Brydenn33> any that are good anyway
[08:28] <Berto> hi - my machine is really bad at getting DHCP leases.  It does not connect to any wireless connection with multiple access points all with the same essid.  Has anyone seen that?
[08:29] <method|> dc++?
[08:29] <maryen> sort of berto
[08:29] <maryen> try installing wifi-radar and see if it can get you connected
[08:29] <Brydenn33> method|: http://www.dcpp.net/
[08:29] <Berto> maryen: cool thanks...
[08:29] <Berto> btw - what's the name of the graphical updater app?
[08:29] <shasbot> the touchpad on my laptop seeems to frequently lose functionality, the cursor will move, but it wont seem to affect anything other than a certain portion of one window
[08:30] <Jucato> adept_updater
[08:30] <shasbot> then after a few minutes, it jolts across the screen, and then opens a menu or something, and works again
[08:30] <Berto> thanks
[08:30] <shasbot> has anyone else had a simmilar issue?
[08:31] <maryen> did it work berto?
[08:31] <Berto> maryen: i don't have multiple access points here, but it installed
[08:31] <Berto> maryen: it also doesn't get DHCP from my router either over eth0.  can't figure that one out...
[08:31] <maryen> weird
[08:31] <Berto> it just seems that i have bad dhcp packages
[08:33] <kraut> moin
[08:36] <Berto> maryen: wifi-radar looks good.  Should i get rid of wlanassistant then, or is there any reason to have both?
[08:37] <Berto> next question - for my wired net device, i'd like to use NetworkManager -- but when I run it, NOTHING happens.  Any ideas on what might be going on?
[08:39] <maryen> i don't know whats with network manager berto
[08:39] <maryen> it doesnt work for me either
[08:39] <Berto> haha my one friend swears by it, but i can't even get the thing to run
[08:39] <maryen> did you guys hear?
[08:39] <maryen> hans Reiser got arrested for murder!
[08:39] <Berto> haha yeah just saw that on digg
[08:39] <Berto> was gonna get to the article.
[08:40] <maryen> im reading it right now
[08:40] <Berto> another question - i put in a USB memory device (for my flash card), and have tons of stuff in /dev/sd* -- is there an app that will automount these for me?
[08:41] <maryen> in kde it automounts it
[08:41] <maryen> it'll ask you if you wanna open up a window with the drive's contents on it
[08:42] <fildo> it should in every DE
[08:42] <Berto> maryen: no it doesn't.
[08:43] <Berto> this is the stuff that should be made easy for people and it STILL DOESN'T WORK
[08:43] <maryen> thats strange berto
[08:44] <maryen> the only time i had trouble with it not automounting usb drives is when i built a custom kernel
[08:45] <maryen> it appears there is biological and circumstantial evidence against mister reiser
[08:45] <maryen> that would be messed up
[08:45] <maryen> the murderous filesystem, reiserfs4
[08:46] <Berto> i tell you man, i've been using linux for over 8 years, i'm sick of fighting with this garbage.  every distro claims to be easy to use, and then something like a USB device can't even autoload on every machine.
[08:46] <maryen> harsh unix_infidel
[08:46] <Berto> unbelievable.   and good if he's convicted torture him and give him the death penalty
[08:46] <unix_infidel> Berto: then dont use it.
[08:46] <maryen> ill take my battered heart and hide in the corner
[08:47] <Berto> unix_infidel: typical attitude.  and then everyone wonders why the linux community scrapes the bottom of the barrel
[08:47] <unix_infidel> Berto: I dont complain, i ask questions.
[08:47] <unix_infidel> eg: how do i get my USB drive to autoload when i insert it into a USB port.
[08:48] <Squatch> What's the utility for formatting a new HDD?
[08:48] <maryen|sulking> berto, honestly, right now linux is still growing, and if you aren't willing to work a little to get what you want in it, its not for you
[08:48] <Berto> unix_infidel:  i'm sick of re-learning new distributions hoping that things like this won't suck.
[08:48] <unix_infidel> Berto: getting a usb drive to autoload is pretty much standard accross all "distro"s
[08:48] <Berto> oh god can it maryen|sulking ... i've been following the community for nearly a decade
[08:48] <Berto> unix_infidel: what KDE service should be running for that to work?
[08:48] <maryen|sulking> and yet you whine like this?
[08:49] <bmo> what distro doesn't have automountd?
[08:49] <Berto> maryen|sulking: dude i've done more for the linux community tthan any of you can imagine.  i'm entitled to some crybabying
[08:49] <unix_infidel> Berto: i'd like to see your vitae.
[08:49] <Berto> OK, i plug in my USB card, tons of crap in /dev/sda* shows up -- then nothing happens after that.
[08:51] <bioticpro> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fZ3FRuH41w&mode=related&search=  <pro linux spot from TechTV
[08:51] <Berto> my work involves getting Linux into the test, measurement, and automation industry using industry-standard hardware and software.  Biggest wins include production machines in many german automaker plants
[08:51] <bmo> berto: which linux distro?
[08:51] <Berto> its stable as a rock.  then i come home and still need to type the command "mount /dev/sda1 /media/whatever"
[08:52] <Berto> bmo: those projects were RHEL
[08:52] <bmo> http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/UserInfo/Resources/Hardware/IBMp690/IBM/usr/share/man/info/en_US/a_doc_lib/cmds/aixcmds1/automount.htm#HDRA131X91DA0
[08:53] <unix_infidel> Berto: that's a pretty generic accomplishment.
[08:53] <Berto> unix_infidel: haha if i didn't sign NDAs i'd love to tell you more
[08:53] <unix_infidel> Berto: i'm glad you got paid.
[08:54] <unix_infidel> Proves the old adage, you dont have to be smart to get paid.
[08:54] <maryen> eh? no flamewars please
[08:54] <Berto> HAHAHAHAHA  oh that's so cute.  i did a lot of work to get that win over windows or some RTOSs
[08:55] <unix_infidel> Berto: like i said, i'm glad you got paid.
[08:55] <Berto> unix_infidel: i never mentioned getting paid.
[08:55] <unix_infidel> :)
[08:55] <maryen> by the way unix_infidel, how do i give k3b rights to burn cds without being root?
[08:56] <Berto> but of course i did, it's my job to make thigns work.   all i'm saying is that it's a battle for everything, but when I plug my USB flash card in my laptop in late 2006, it should just pop up.  this shouldn't still be a battle for me
[08:56] <bmo> mayryen: you run k3b as root _once_ and then you don't have to do it again
[08:56] <bmo> iirc
[08:56] <maryen> nah, i always have to run as root
[08:57] <abattoir> maryen: try running k3bsetup as root
[08:57] <maryen> ok
[08:57] <abattoir> maryen: or S
[08:57] <unix_infidel> Berto: your best bet is to add a line to /etc/fstab.
[08:57] <abattoir> or Settings->Setup K3b would also help
[08:57] <cpk2> maryen: i used apt-get to get k3b and have always ran it as user
[08:57] <Berto> unix_infidel: i know how to do that.  but isn't this supposed to be "linux for human beings" ??
[08:58] <cpk2> Berto: part of the "linux for human beings" is this channel
[08:58] <Berto> touche
[08:58] <unix_infidel> Berto: dont you know a marketing ploy when you see one.
[08:58] <unix_infidel> Berto: you know this, use it.
[08:59] <Berto> apparently not.  ubuntu is doing well though, this is one of my first couple of pet peeves.  beats the socks off mandriva/mandrake
[08:59] <unix_infidel> Berto: honestly i agree there.
[08:59] <unix_infidel> Berto: at the same time, try and do some of the things in Windows with LUA.  And you'll have many more pet peeves.
[09:00] <bmo> http://www.mydigitallife.info/2006/09/10/how-to-mount-usb-disk-drive-in-unix-or-linux/
[09:00] <bmo> read the last paragraph, berto
[09:01] <Berto> bmo: what year is this, 1997?  this paper shouldn't even exist.  In Mac, you know what you do?  you plug it in!
[09:01] <Berto> bmo: anyway, i use kde - hence the kubuntu channel no?
[09:01] <unix_infidel> Berto: no that's in OS X.
[09:02] <unix_infidel> in mac (aka darwin) you do something along the same lines.
[09:02] <bmo> berto: you say that you're using RHAT
[09:02] <bmo> redhat is _gnome_ based
[09:02] <Berto> oh lord.   bmo - no, my german test sets were all RHEL
[09:02] <Berto> i'm using kubuntu on this new laptop
[09:03] <unix_infidel> Berto: Congrats, which laptop?
[09:03] <maryen> unix_infidel, still no luck
[09:03] <Berto> another thing that stinks is that i had to grab windows wireless drivers and use ndiswrapper.  i wonder if the community could ever automate that
[09:03] <unix_infidel> maryen: ?
[09:03] <Berto> unix_infidel: dell latitude d820... i love the thing
[09:03] <maryen> k3b still demands root
[09:03] <unix_infidel> maryen: i do all media stuff in windows and OS X.
[09:03] <unix_infidel> Linux is primarily a production box for me now.
[09:03] <maryen> bah
[09:04] <physicsnick> wow, okay problem, BIG problem
[09:05] <maryen> yeah?
[09:05] <maryen> system is freezing?
[09:05] <physicsnick> so i purge nvidia*, install the beta driver, install beryl svn
[09:05] <physicsnick> and everything works great
[09:05] <unix_infidel> maryen: what is the problem exactly.
[09:05] <Berto> HAHAHA... to cap off this great adventure, it looks like my drunken friends and brother formatted the pictures I wanted off of this camera.  Unbelievable
[09:05] <unix_infidel> i'd wager you arent giving the user specific permissions in groups or via fstab.
[09:05] <physicsnick> i reboot and the driver sticks YAY, beryl runs YAY, everything seems to work, right?
[09:05] <maryen> it says k3b doesnt have the permissions to burn cd
[09:05] <physicsnick> so I start up irc to tell of my exploits... aaaand, my ath0 wireless adapter is gone.
[09:06] <Berto> i knew something was wrong when i finally found the camera and it had the default screen.  oh boy.  i'd rather have had USB not work and not find out about this
[09:06] <physicsnick> GONE, like it never even existed.
[09:06] <unix_infidel> maryen: read above.
[09:06] <physicsnick> i tried uninstalling the beta driver, to no avail; i am now internet-less on kubuntu.
[09:06] <physicsnick> ideas anyone?
[09:06] <maryen> k3bsetup?
[09:06] <unix_infidel> maryen: no, read above.
[09:07] <maryen> physic, how did you get wirless before?
[09:07] <physicsnick> how? it always just worked. it works natively when i boot from the livecd
[09:07] <physicsnick> i have an atheros chipset, madwifi drivers are preloaded in ubuntu
[09:08] <maryen> hmm
[09:08] <physicsnick> i can't imagine why installing a video driver would cause ath0 to disappear
[09:08] <maryen> do you know the driver modules names?
[09:08] <physicsnick> and i don't exactly have a spare computer lying around to chat about it while i fix it
[09:08] <maryen> if so just do a modprobe ****
[09:08] <physicsnick> no, i don't know the module's name
[09:08] <physicsnick> but i assume it vanished when i purged nvidia*, yes?
[09:09] <physicsnick> hmm, wait
[09:09] <physicsnick> if i can view my dpkg logs, i can see what i purged
[09:09] <physicsnick> so i can add the kernel headers back, right?
[09:09] <maryen> yes
[09:09] <maryen> the normal kernel headers were fine
[09:09] <physicsnick> kay
[09:09] <maryen> just dont install the nvidia ones
[09:09] <physicsnick> so why did it remove them when i purged nvidia? doesn't it realize i need them?
[09:10] <Manyfold> where does kubuntu keep it's installation logs
[09:10] <bmo> in /var
[09:10] <maryen> it removed you linux-headers??
[09:10] <maryen> werid
[09:10] <physicsnick> yessir
[09:10] <maryen> weird*
[09:10] <physicsnick> it removed lots of stuff
[09:10] <maryen> well reinstall them and see if that works
[09:10] <physicsnick> didn't give me any options
[09:10] <physicsnick> k
[09:10] <physicsnick> bbl, wish me luck
[09:10] <maryen> and ill research on my side
[09:11] <xenoterracide> what file sets $EDITOR (assumes it is editor)
[09:11] <bmo> manyfold, the installation log is in /var/log/dpkg.log
[09:12] <xenoterracide> I went to edit /etc/sudoers with visudo and I see it's using nano
[09:12] <xenoterracide> I need to change this to vim
[09:13] <bmo> that _is_ visudo
[09:14] <mindspin> does anybody know if kmobiletools (or any other application for cellphones) work with nokia slvr l7 ?
[09:14] <xenoterracide> it uses nano if $EDITOR is set to nano
[09:14] <xenoterracide> vim if set to vim etc..
[09:15] <feet> hello. some windows have no border. i press alt-space/right click to open the Advanced menu... but No Border is undeselectable (greyed out) and the tick mark is stuck in place... is there somewhere where i can manually over ride these settings??
[09:15] <xenoterracide> that variable is set in rc.conf in gentoo however the file does not exist in kubuntu
[09:15] <feet> thanks in advance
[09:17] <bmo> from the visudo man page
[09:17] <bmo> Normally, visudo does not honor the VISUAL or EDITOR environment variables unless they contain an edi
[09:17] <bmo>        tor in the aforementioned editors list.
[09:18] <bmo> However, if visudo is configured with the --with-enveditor flag or the
[09:18] <bmo>        enveditor Default variable is set in sudoers, visudo will use any the editor defines by VISUAL or EDITOR.
[09:18] <bmo> Note
[09:18] <bmo>        that this can be a security hole since it allows the user to execute any program they wish simply by setting VISUAL
[09:18] <bmo>        or EDITOR.
[09:19] <xenoterracide> right
[09:20] <xenoterracide> although I think it would be a small security hole
[09:21] <bmo> if you're the only sudoer, xenoterracide, it's a small hole.  if you're not, it's a big hole
[09:21] <neddiW> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Hans_Reiser_Arrested_On_Suspicion_of_Murder
[09:21] <xenoterracide> as it is the person(s) with write access to the file that define which editors are present on the system and who has write access to that file
[09:22] <|Asgard|> hey guys im running VMware and i have dual screens so evertime i put the vmware into full screen it spans accross the two screens what can i do so that it will only go full screen on one screen?
[09:23] <xenoterracide> anyway thx for the help bmo
[09:23] <bmo> asgard: you are asking a mutually exclusive question....
[09:23] <bmo> I tried, xeno
[09:24] <xenoterracide> heh well it made me do a double look at the gentoo config
[09:24] <xenoterracide> # Set default EDITOR to vi, and do not allow visudo to use EDITOR/VISUAL.
[09:24] <xenoterracide> Defaults  editor=/usr/bin/vim, !env_editor
[09:24] <bmo> if X spans 2 monitors, and you click fullscreen, it's naturally going to span the whole desktop
[09:24] <xenoterracide> I think that line is commented by default in gentoo
[09:25] <physicsnick> argh
[09:25] <maryen> ??
[09:25] <xenoterracide> which is why I remember editor controlling it at one point
[09:25] <physicsnick> without the restricted modules, ath0 disappears
[09:25] <physicsnick> with them, x won't start
[09:25] <XVampireX> Anyone tried ext4 yet?
[09:25] <xenoterracide> considering it just made mm sources nope
[09:26] <physicsnick> any ideas maryen?
[09:26] <maryen> you might try ndiswrapper
[09:26] <bmo> xeno: roll your own.  visudo is small enough.
[09:26] <physicsnick> yeah, no, definitely not going to do that.
[09:26] <xenoterracide> bmo ? huh what do you mean?
[09:27] <maryen> whys that physic
[09:27] <xenoterracide> I'm confused at your suggestion why would I need to?
[09:27] <maryen> why's*
[09:27] <physicsnick> because there's no reason i should have to completely change my wireless drivers just to get a video card driver working
[09:27] <physicsnick> i'm gonna submit a bug report to nvidia about it, because that's just ridiculous
[09:27] <|Asgard|> thx
[09:27] <physicsnick> but in the meantime i'll live without beryl
[09:27] <bmo> get the source, and do a ./configure the editor specified
[09:28] <bmo> then just copy it over
[09:28] <maryen> physicsnick: then you'll need to wait till the nvidia-glx package is working again
[09:28] <maryen> or build your own kernel
[09:28] <bmo> nvidia-glx is busted?
[09:29] <maryen> on edgy it is
[09:29] <physicsnick> no, it's not busted
[09:29] <maryen> what's this about ext4 btw?
[09:29] <maryen> ooh i see they fixed the dependencies for it
[09:30] <physicsnick> yeah, it's not busted, i'm using it right now
[09:30] <physicsnick> nvidia-glx works fine
[09:30] <xenoterracide> it got moved into mm sources maryen
[09:30] <maryen> how good is it compared to 3?
[09:30] <XVampireX> Yeah, I wanna know performance wise
[09:31] <bmo> ext4: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~mihaib/fs/fs.html
[09:31] <xenoterracide> most of what ext4 is about won't be that useful  on the desktop
[09:31] <maryen> dual disk filesystem
[09:31] <maryen> ??
[09:31] <bmo> ext4 is basically a refinement of ext2, which uses two partitions simultaneously, ideally placed on separate disks.
[09:32] <XVampireX> Doesn't sound too interesting
[09:32] <maryen> damn those corporate users
[09:32] <bmo> it's a fake raid0 from what I can see
[09:32] <xenoterracide> along with the fact that it can store several Petabytes of information
[09:32] <maryen> i oughta club them and eat their bones
[09:33] <bmo> raid0 without actual raid
[09:33] <xenoterracide> and it allows faster reads of where information is on a disk by using ranges for non fragmented contiguous blocks
[09:33] <XVampireX> xenoterracide: So starting up applications is faster due to finding the neccessary libraries faster?
[09:34] <xenoterracide> possibly
[09:34] <XVampireX> Possibly is not that helpful
[09:34] <xenoterracide> I'm not an expert
[09:34] <xenoterracide> I doubt it will be that noticible on a desktop
[09:34] <xenoterracide> s/noticible/noticable
[09:34] <xenoterracide> it should be
[09:35] <xenoterracide> faster that way yes
[09:35] <XVampireX> ah
[09:36] <xenoterracide> basically the way ext3 does it is that things are listed in metadata 1 block at a time
[09:36] <xenoterracide> so it has to look at each block
[09:36] <xenoterracide> or at least each reference 1, 2, 3, 4 etc
[09:36] <xenoterracide> if 1,2,3,4 is a file
[09:36] <xenoterracide> ext4 would allow that to be 1-4
[09:36] <xenoterracide> making lookups faster
[09:37] <xenoterracide> as I understand it
[09:37] <xenoterracide> most of this is really only usefull with really large files and huge filesystems
[09:42] <morghanphoenix> What's a good file system for handling large files? Ext3 seems to lag a lot on deletion and copying of gig sized files.
[09:47] <bmo> morganphoenix: jfs and xfs were designed to handle large files
[10:35] <Mantits> s^
[10:35] <Mantits> First boot on Kubuntu :DD
[10:44] <hAPPY_mAJA> How do I install a program in *.bin??
[10:52] <Mantits> Eerr
[10:53] <Mantits> I have a 17gb FAT32 partition with my music in it, why can't I view it in Konqueror
[10:53] <Mantits> I get an error that says it can't be mounted
[10:54] <xenoterracide> is fat32 enabled in the kernel?
[10:54] <xenoterracide> that's first guess
[10:55] <Mantits> No clue dude
[10:55] <Mantits> I've been using this for about 30 minutes now
[10:55] <Mantits> Is there a command for checking/enabling that?
[10:55] <xenoterracide> well... yes but it seems that *buntu hasn't enabled suport for it
[10:55] <xenoterracide> are you using the livecd?
[10:55] <Mantits> I have it, I'm not using it
[10:56] <xenoterracide> hmm...
[10:56] <xenoterracide> where's the config for the kernel
[10:58] <xenoterracide> have you tried mounting it on the command line?
[10:58] <pacman> I've got a question
[10:58] <Mantits> no, I have no idea how to do that
[10:59] <tainted_one> you could just try mount -t fat32 /dev/yourfatpartition /mnt/youmountpoint an look at the output
[10:59] <pacman> my 3d-acceleration isn't working right
[10:59] <Mantits> ok
[10:59] <xenoterracide> mantits check this http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/30700-fat32-ubuntu.html
[10:59] <xenoterracide> it might help you
[10:59] <xenoterracide> pacman that isn't a question
[11:00] <pacman> sorry
[11:00] <pacman> I'm trying to get a game running correctly, but the fps is wicked slow
[11:00] <pacman> how do I fix it
[11:00] <pacman> ?
[11:00] <xenoterracide> what video card do you have?
[11:01] <pacman> I have a Radeon 9550
[11:01] <weedar> Is there a KDE equivalent of windowskey+m to minimize all windows?
[11:02] <xenoterracide> did you install ati's proprietary drivers pacman?
[11:02] <pacman> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[11:02] <pacman> I did most of that
[11:02] <xenoterracide> what of that didn't you do?
[11:03] <pacman> when I tried linx-restricted-module-$(uname -r)
[11:03] <pacman> it said couldn't find
[11:03] <pacman> same for sudo aticonfig --initial
[11:03] <pacman> and --overlay-type=Xv
[11:03] <Mantits> errg..
[11:05] <Mantits> err okay
[11:05] <xenoterracide> pacman is the 95x an r200 or r300 series
[11:05] <Mantits> I don't know what to call my mount pointr
[11:05] <pacman> I dunno
[11:05] <pacman> how can I find out
[11:06] <xenoterracide> create a directory called /mnt/fat32 mantis
[11:06] <pacman> book says RV350LX
[11:06] <xenoterracide> mkdir -p /mnt/fat32 and use that for a mount point
[11:07] <xenoterracide> pacman do a lspci |grep radeon
[11:07] <pacman> nothing
[11:07] <xenoterracide> err.. make that a capital R
[11:07] <Mantits> "unknown fileystem type"
[11:07] <Mantits> "fat32"
[11:07] <Mantits> :((
[11:07] <Amority> When I try moving items from a cd into /usr/local/games (under root permisions) it says that KDE Media Manager isnt running and will not copy the files in there
[11:08] <pacman> RV350AS
[11:08] <xenoterracide> k well if it's a 350 then you need the proprietary drivers
[11:08] <pacman> how do I get them
[11:09] <tainted_one> Mantits: try 'fat' instead
[11:11] <xenoterracide> pacman have you done an apt-get update recently?
[11:11] <pacman> yes
[11:11] <Mantits> "permission denied"
[11:11] <Mantits> I can't do cd /dev/sda3
[11:11] <Mantits> I'm in root
[11:11] <xenoterracide> ok.... maybe somethings wrong with sources.list then
[11:12] <tainted_one> Mantis: use 'sudo', like 'sudo mount /dev/whatever /mnt/fat32 -t fat'
[11:12] <Mantits> doens't know filesystem type "fat"
[11:12] <Mantits> or "fat32"
[11:13] <Mantits> :<
[11:13] <tainted_one> hmm
[11:14] <xenoterracide> what does uname -r give you pac man
[11:14] <pacman> 2.6.15-26-386
[11:15] <Mantits> well uhhh..
[11:15] <Mantits> I can't access my music partition
[11:15] <Mantits> and I don't have any sound :<
[11:16] <tainted_one> Mantits: I just read a page that suggests using 'vfat' as type, you might try this
[11:16] <xenoterracide> pacman did you copy and paste this line "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) " or type it
[11:16] <pacman> copy and paste
[11:16] <xenoterracide> k
[11:16] <stephen> hello all
[11:17] <Mantits> ok, I'll try that
[11:17] <xenoterracide> I'm thinking it might be a sources.list problem
[11:17] <tainted_one> Mantis: this is the page: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows.php
[11:17] <Mantits> I got it working, great
[11:17] <Mantits> Only I can't play any of the music, because I have no sound
[11:17] <stephen> can anybody help me in getting a 100mb zip disk working pleas?
[11:17] <Mantits> :<<
[11:19] <tainted_one> Mantits: can't help you on this one, I haven't got a linux box around, glad you could mount it thou :)
[11:19] <wildchild> I have ge force 5500 which is on the least of nvidia-glx package. I've installed this package. What else do I have to install to make driveres work
[11:19] <wildchild> least = list
[11:19] <xenoterracide> pacman if it is a source.list problem I can't really help you
[11:19] <pacman> :(
[11:19] <Mantits> Don't have a linux box.. but you're in #kubuntu..
[11:20] <xenoterracide> I'm still fairly new to debian systems...
[11:20] <Mantits> > Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[11:20] <pacman> ah
[11:21] <xenoterracide> I would have your back in a gentoo system cause I've gotten DRI working on all sorts of finicky radeons ;-)
[11:23] <Mantits> Do I just need a driver for my sound card, or is this version of the kernel not going to support it at all?
[11:23] <pacman> well, thanks for your help anyhow
[11:25] <xenoterracide> pacman you might try #ubuntu if you haven't already
[11:25] <Mantits> well
[11:25] <pacman> anyone awake over here?
[11:25] <pacman> ack
[11:26] <tainted_one> Mantits: I'm at work, my linux box is at home
[11:26] <frtdx> hi everyone!
[11:29] <mehdi> hi all
[11:48] <orient2000> Anybody has an idea what does it mean? Cannot write to `12B83718.gpg' (Broken pipe)
[11:50] <orient2000> !pipe
[11:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pipe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <Ouaaahhhh> sdfqs
[12:16] <_buz> is there a way to have a kde app running as root use my user's kwallet?
[12:17] <zorglu_> likely
[12:17] <zorglu_> i dunno how, you may ask on #kde
[12:34] <robin__> hello
[12:36] <grothesk> Did someone release kde 3.5.5 for edgy?
[12:37] <grothesk> I found kde 3.5.5 packages in 'main' repos. Thought that edgy will contain kde 3.5.4
[12:38] <Hobbsee> grothesk: yeah, kde 3.5.5 got put into main.  i'm assuming it will be released/is released
[12:38] <grothesk> Hobbsee: But I'm missing konqueror 3.5.5
[12:40] <Hobbsee> grothesk: no idea why, it's in the repos it seems
[12:41] <grothesk> So it is a mix of 3.5.4 and 3.5.5
[12:41] <frojnd> s
[12:43] <Hobbsee> !info kdebase edgy
[12:43] <ubotu> kdebase: base components from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.4-0ubuntu29 (edgy), package size 45 kB, installed size 88 kB
[12:43] <Hobbsee> grothesk: it must still be building
[12:43] <Hobbsee> yep
[12:50] <jono> anyone here going to the 10th anniversary in Stuttgart?
[12:51] <LeeJunFan> Hans Reiser arrested for murder! I figured that was coming.
[12:52] <LeeJunFan> It should be a class action suit, heheh. Considering the # of files that were murdered because of reiserfs.
[12:52] <omar> hello guys, I am trying to munt a folder from a windows machine with this command : sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.20/Nuevas ~/Lap -o urd=omar , but I get and error : mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //192.168.1.20/Nuevas
[12:53] <omar> What's wrong with it
[12:53] <rahmetli> if i install a deb package,can i remove it from adept later?
[12:53] <LeeJunFan> rahmetli: yes
[12:53] <rahmetli> LeeJunFan thanks
[12:54] <Momal> anyone know the command for the kde panel? seems mine crashed and didn't restart... am I able to bring it up without restarting kdm/X
[12:55] <KDEfanboy> Momal: kicker
[12:55] <visik_> kde 3.5.5 will be in edgy ?
[12:56] <Momal> thanks ^_-
[12:56] <KDEfanboy> visik_: you bet
[12:56] <visik_> :) I don't like to bet :)
[12:56] <KDEfanboy> hah
[12:58] <LeeJunFan> visik_: well if you wanted to start now would be a good time. 3.5.5 started going into edgy repos yesterday, it's still not complete yet. But close.
[12:59] <AbortD> how do i add the task bar back to kicker?
[12:59] <Hobbsee> visik_: yes.  it's still building
[12:59] <Hobbsee> AbortD: right click on kicker, add applet
[12:59] <KDEfanboy> AbortD: it's the "Taskbar" applet to add
[01:00] <AbortD> thanks
[01:12] <Mikael> how can i install bmp (the music player)
[01:12] <Mikael> it isnt in synaptic
[01:13] <Mikael> i extracted the bz2 archive
[01:13] <Mikael> but now i dont know further
[01:14] <grothesk> Mikael: Use a repo.
[01:14] <grothesk> I know that I had a repo for bmp under Dapper.
[01:15] <cpk2> Mikael: you sure you cant get bmp from a repo? apt-cache search turns up several plugins for bmp
[01:16] <Mikael> cpk2: i didnt find it in the gui (frontend)
[01:16] <Mikael> just figured it out
[01:16] <Mikael> sudo ./configure - sudo make - sudo make install (i guess)
[01:16] <Mikael> sudo make wont work :(
[01:17] <cpk2> beep-media-player - Versatile audio player that supports Winamp skins
[01:17] <cpk2> !info beep-media-player
[01:17] <ubotu> beep-media-player: Versatile audio player that supports Winamp skins. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7.1+cvs20050803-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 831 kB, installed size 3592 kB
[01:17] <emonkey-p> The Packe Name is beep-media-player
[01:17] <cpk2> jeez prove him wrong and he gets all angry
[01:17] <cpk2> =P
[01:19] <Mikael> i found it in the repo :)
[01:19] <cpk2> Mikael: did you see what ubotu said?
[01:19] <Mikael> thx anyway
[01:23] <Mikael> cpk2: another thing: i don't find exaile in the repo http://www.exaile.org/index.rb?command=screenshots
[01:24] <cpk2> i've never even heard of exaile
[01:24] <cpk2> is it supposed to be in the repos?
[01:25] <cpk2> you can just download the pkg from their site
[01:25] <schwarz> hi
[01:28] <Mikael> cpk2: i get errors
[01:28] <Mikael> dependancy errors :(
[01:29] <rahmetli> is it enough to install a deb package to run, even it has some other requirements?
[01:29] <grothesk> No. Don't overlook dependencies.
[01:29] <grothesk> Never.
[01:30] <rahmetli> but i cant find them in the repos? :(
[01:30] <grothesk> What is missing?
[01:30] <rahmetli> Qt 4.1 , QtXml , GlibC
[01:31] <rahmetli> i could find other,i couldnt find these 3 req's in the repos.
[01:32] <rahmetli> i am trying to install keepassX
[01:32] <rahmetli> http://keepassx.sourceforge.net/requirements/ is the req's page
[01:42] <rahmetli> how to install Qt 4.1 , QtXml , GlibC ?
[01:44] <cox377> i dont suppose anyone here uses GPS under linux?
[01:49] <rahmetli> how to install Qt 4.1 , QtXml , GlibC ?
[01:50] <PiR> hi
[01:51] <PiR> does it exist a equivalence for "youtube movie downloader" in linux ?
[01:55] <rahmetli> What is Qt?? is it same with Qt designer?
[01:57] <narasimhan> rahmetli: Qt is a library like gtk..
[01:59] <rahmetli> I need to install Qt,is it enough to install Qt designer?
[02:00] <narasimhan> rahmetli: qt ,qt libs is installed if u have kubuntu...because kde needs it
[02:00] <narasimhan> rahmetli: qt designer is a gui design program that enables u to develop user interfaces using the qt library..
[02:01] <rahmetli> narasimhan ohhh ok. i was looking 4 it 4 an hour. :)
[02:01] <narasimhan> rahmetli: ok
[02:01] <rahmetli> narasimhan thanks
[02:02] <narasimhan> rahmetli: no problem....
[02:03] <rahmetli> now i've 2 requirements remaining. QtXml and GlibC :(
[02:07] <narasimhan> rahmetli: are u installing from synaptic?
[02:07] <rahmetli> no.i couldnt find the program i want in the repos.
[02:09] <rahmetli> the program is keepassX,http://keepassx.sourceforge.net/requirements/ is the req's page
[02:10] <moi> bjr
[02:10] <moi> commen ca va?
[02:10] <narasimhan> but your other requirements may be already  installed..did u check them..i am sure glibc is installed..
[02:10] <narasimhan> moi: bonjour..
[02:11] <rahmetli> i was controlling them from adept,if installed or not.
[02:11] <moi> narasimhan commen va tu
[02:12] <narasimhan> moi:il va tres bien..i learnt french in my high school ..am i doin it right?
[02:12] <rahmetli> how can i test if all the req's ok using console?
[02:13] <moi> narasimhan dsl je parle ke francais
[02:14] <narasimhan> rahmetli: if theres a configure file ..then u can open the console and cd to that directory and do a  ./configure ..it will tell u if u are missing somethin
[02:14] <rahmetli> narasimhan its a deb package.
[02:16] <narasimhan> rahmetli: i am not very conversant with dpkg..i switched to ubuntu 1 month back..
[02:16] <narasimhan> rahmetli: i will try with the source now..
[02:16] <rahmetli> narasimhan thanks again.
[02:16] <dinosaur-rus> hi all
[02:17] <narasimhan> rahmetli: i see it requires qt 4..
[02:17] <rahmetli> narasimhan yes,dont we have it installed?
[02:18] <narasimhan> rahmetli: but i dont think qt 4 is available by  default..but its available in the repos..as qt4
[02:18] <rahmetli> i couldnt find in the repos,could you find it?
[02:18] <narasimhan> rahmetli: one min
[02:19] <rahmetli> 59
[02:19] <rahmetli> 58
[02:19] <rahmetli> 57
[02:19] <rahmetli> :))
[02:19] <narasimhan> rahmetli: :)
[02:20] <linel> dr
[02:20] <linel> hi
[02:20] <narasimhan> rahmetli: the package is libqt
[02:21] <narasimhan> libqt-dev libqt-core libqt-gui ..all three are available
[02:21] <rahmetli> oww really? GlibC is installed,the last QtXml,any information?
[02:22] <dinosaur-rus> is there mc (Midnight Commander) package available?
[02:23] <rahmetli> narasimhan can you write the exact name of the Qt package please?
[02:24] <narasimhan> rahmetli: libqt4-core
[02:24] <narasimhan> rahmetli: libqt4-dev,libqt4-gui ..sorry for the wrong info above
[02:25] <chx> is it possible to have one KDE desktop strech two X servers? (I know this is crazy. But, I have crazy ideas.)
[02:27] <KDEfanboy> chx: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xdmx
[02:28] <chx> KDEfanboy: after this, is there anything Linux won't do for me? :)
[02:28] <benkong2> can someone help me figure out where my wireless card is?
[02:28] <chx> benkong2: have you checked under your bed :P ?
[02:28] <benkong2> I have an X30 thinkpad Knoppix finds the card andso does Debian. But my new Kubuntu 6.10 Edgy does not. What can I do?
[02:28] <benkong2> Yes it's not there
[02:29] <rahmetli> benkong what do you want to do?
[02:29] <benkong2> The correct drivers are loaded orinoco_pci and hostap_pci
[02:29] <chx> oooh
[02:29] <benkong2> I want to get my wireless card working
[02:29] <narasimhan> rahmetli: not able to find that package..
[02:29] <chx> orinoco_pci and hostap_pci ?
[02:29] <benkong2> when I do a dmesg I only see the e100 watchdog driver
[02:29] <KDEfanboy> chx: yep, xdmx + full glx support and xvideo extension (at least not yet, afaik)
[02:30] <benkong2> I have a Prism 2.5 built in wireless
[02:30] <narasimhan> rahmetli: but u can get the source and try ./configure .. if that file is there..that may tell u what things more u need
[02:30] <chx> benkong2: yup. you need to disable the orinoco and hermes modules and use hostap.
[02:30] <benkong2> chx: will rmmod <driver> do that?
[02:31] <chx> I would not try that
[02:31] <chx> rather disable from modules.conf and reboot
[02:31] <benkong2> chx: let me check
[02:31] <chx> i learned this about a few days back
[02:31] <chx> and banged my head against the wall
[02:32] <benkong2> chx: where is modules.conf located?
[02:32] <chx> imagine my happiness of owning a Senao 2511 card
[02:32] <chx> and not being able to scan with _that_
[02:32] <benkong2> chx: I can only imagine
[02:32] <rahmetli> narasimhan: i will try as it is :) what do you think? will it run properly?
[02:32] <chx> benkong2: from this point a search in ubuntuforums is more helpful than my poor memory
[02:33] <narasimhan> rahmetli: not sure..but it shld tell u during install whether it needs the packages
[02:33] <benkong2> chx: ok searching. I just did a locate modules.conf and all I come up with is one under gnome-vfs but I am running kubuntu
[02:33] <chx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192050&highlight=hostap
[02:33] <chx> there
[02:34] <chx> " you'll have to create /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-hostap-utils and put"
[02:34] <chx> i remembered the filename wrong, sorry
[02:34] <benkong2> ok thanks checking
[02:34] <chx> also the famous video of how to hack WPA
[02:34] <chx> is actually a freaking good tutorial of setting up wpasupplicant :)
[02:34] <chx> let me dig a link
[02:35] <rahmetli> narasimhan: sudo dpkg -i pakagename but what else parameters do i need to see the additional error output
[02:35] <benkong2> chx: ok me smiles at chx
[02:35] <chx> http://www.mirrors.wiretapped.net/security/vulnerability-assessment/aircrack/whax-aircrack-wpa/whax-aircrack-wpa.html
[02:35] <chx> this one.
[02:35] <benkong2> cool
[02:36] <narasimhan> rahmetli: it will spell out the packages it doesnt find..i think..
[02:36] <benkong2> the music is so nice
[02:36] <narasimhan> rahmetli: i am not sureif it will spell out the package names
[02:37] <narasimhan> rahmetli: but it will be close to the package name..so worth a try..
[02:37] <rahmetli> does dpkg has an option to see errors occured during installation?
[02:39] <Ouaaahhhh> dpkg -i is giving error output
[02:39] <chx> KDEfanboy: so, my plan is to hook up one of my monitors to my notebook, grab a mediocre-aged fanless machine and drive the second monitor from that and hook them together by 100M Ethernet
[02:39] <chx> KDEfanboy: is this a viable plan?
[02:39] <rahmetli> the option is "depends"
[02:40] <Ouaaahhhh> it's not error , it's dependance
[02:41] <KDEfanboy> chx: eh? drive the 2nd monitor?
[02:41] <narasimhan> Ouaaahhhh: right its dependance .. :)
[02:42] <rahmetli> Ouaaahhhh: depends: Turn all dependency problems into warnings.
[02:42] <dinosaur-rus> "DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket" does dcopserver need specific firewall settings?
[02:42] <chx> KDEfanboy: I have two 20" Dell LCDs and ATM I have a desktop with a dualhead VGA card
[02:42] <benkong2> chx: is it really necessary to toos the /etc/iftab to make this work?
[02:42] <narasimhan> chx: :O great..
[02:42] <chx> benkong2: I only read this so far
[02:43] <benkong2> ok off to reboot thanks
[02:43] <chx> KDEfanboy: now, I want to ditch my desktop and only use a notebook , but then I have no place to plug the second VGA cable
[02:43] <rahmetli> narasimhan: its ok
[02:43] <rahmetli> its running
[02:43] <chx> KDEfanboy: and matrox dualhead2go is no solution, the resolution is too high
[02:43] <narasimhan> rahmetli: great..u got it running
[02:43] <rahmetli> narasimhan: we got it ;)
[02:43] <chx> so I think I need a second machine to drive the second monitor
[02:43] <narasimhan> rahmetli: ok..:)
[02:44] <dinosaur-rus> does dcopserver need specific firewall settings?
[02:44] <narasimhan> rahmetli: i am from india ...u ?
[02:45] <rahmetli> narasimhan:I am from Turkey
[02:45] <narasimhan> rahmetli: ok..
[02:47] <KDEfanboy> chx: mean you want the headless to process and the 2nd monitor to just display what it processes? and you want both displays to be one giant desktop?
[02:47] <chx> exactly
[02:48] <n5> alredy second day can't change default kubuntu language from french to english, any help ?
[02:48] <chx> (ok, not exactly, because the notebook is not headless, it actually drives the first monitor but yes it should do all the processing and the second machine should just do the displaying.)
[02:48] <n5> my all kde is in french
[02:51] <dinosaur-rus> uh can anyone help me?
[02:52] <chx> dinosaur-rus: http://tinyurl.com/e6m6
[02:54] <dinosaur-rus> what to do if I get the error "DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket"?
[02:54] <KDEfanboy> chx: yep xdmx will do that. like is said, afaik, it is limited in glx and xvideo support, though.. so for that you can set up Chromium along with it http://chromium.sourceforge.net/
[02:56] <chx> I do not really know what xvideo is, and I think I do not care about glx :) I am a web programmer. I do not play games. I sometimes watch movies but even now I only use one monitor for that. I have very humble needs.
[02:56] <Ouaaahhhh> n5 : go to menu -> paramtre du systme = system settings then go to  "regionalisation " then -> select the fourth categorie " Pays & langues - > select english
[02:56] <chx> KDEfanboy: you are very helpful, thanks a ton.
[02:57] <sorush20> hi guys I can't see the windows >split view left/right in konqueror
[02:58] <Ouaaahhhh> n5  : in "pays & Langues " -> select "par dfaut" means "by default", select english
[02:58] <n5> Ouaaahhhh - its selected in there english, but all KDE menius are in french
[02:58] <KDEfanboy> chx: xvideo is hardware accelerated video playback so you might find you need that after a while. perhaps  another alternative is set up clustering with something like openmosix (2.4 kernel only atm) to transparently distribute process loads
[02:58] <n5> ah ok, deleted french from system
[02:58] <n5> will reboot now :D
[02:59] <ubuntu_> where can i change my charset
[02:59] <chx> dinosaur-rus: you , of course, googled on the error message with quotes and checked the two results there that they do not apply to you?
[03:00] <Kommari> hmm
[03:04] <n5> Ouaaahhhh - anyway french, i even removed frensh packets from kubuntu
[03:04] <Kommari> could anyone say how i can changme charset as im really not used to american charset
[03:05] <dinosaur-rus> chx: that info from Google results didn't help
[03:06] <chx> dinosaur-rus: great. now is the time to tell us more about what you are trying to do and when you see this error
[03:08] <dinosaur-rus> chx: http://pastebin.ca/197652
[03:08] <Ouaaahhhh> n5 : hehe  didn't link french ?
[03:08] <Ouaaahhhh> :-)
[03:09] <n5> i dont understand french almost
[03:10] <chx> dinosaur-rus: most obvious solution -- have you tried a reboot? something went really wrong there
[03:10] <chx> of course it is possible to restart stuff
[03:10] <chx> but may not worth the bothering
[03:10] <jose> alguien que me pase el servidor en espaol
[03:12] <jose> alguien que hable espaol
[03:12] <dinosaur-rus> chx: well, I'll try...
[03:13] <|WAL|> I'm having trouble getting smbmount, I get a dependancy issue, can anyone help?
[03:14] <Dr_willis> hmm..  sudo apt-get update and upgrade lately?
[03:15] <|WAL|> Dr_willis: was that directed at me?
[03:15] <Dr_willis> |WAL|,  yep..  it would be VERY odd that somthing that basic has a dependency issue
[03:15] <Dr_willis> !info smbmount
[03:16] <ubotu> Package smbmount does not exist in any distro I know
[03:16] <Dr_willis> hmmm...
[03:16] <Dr_willis> what are you trying to install exactly?
[03:16] <morghanphoenix> What is the terminal options for a kmenu item if I need it to launch at 25x77 minimum?
[03:16] <jose> alguien que hable espaol
[03:16] <v3ctor> !es
[03:16] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:17] <jose> yeah
[03:17] <morghanphoenix> I've looked at the terminal man pages but can't seem to find size settings in the options.
[03:18] <n5> whooooooohooooooooooooooo :D
[03:18] <Dr_willis> morghanphoenix,  'terminla' ? or are you refering to Konsole ? or some other program
[03:18] <n5> changed language :D
[03:18] <livingdaylight> WoaH! Fresh install of KUBUNTU - first time ever - a Kubuntu-newborn you could say :)
[03:18] <n5> ;p
[03:18] <Dr_willis> konsole   --vt_sz CCxLL          ##   Terminal size in columns x lines
[03:19] <|WAL|> Dr_willis: my problem is like this: I can get to remote samba shares with "Remote place" but I can't mount them to a point in my fs
[03:19] <livingdaylight> Can any of you folks tell me what exactly is the next step after a fresh kubuntu install. What would be the first thing you did to complete and polish off the installation?
[03:19] <|WAL|> Dr_willis: I don't have smbmount installed and I get an error when getting it
[03:19] <Dr_willis> There is a 'Terminal' program as well.    Terminal --geometry=GEOMETRY      ##           X geometry specification (see "X man pages ")
[03:19] <livingdaylight> I'm thinking adding repositories and multimedia codecs?
[03:20] <morghanphoenix> Thanks
[03:20] <Dr_willis> |WAL|,  its smbmnt
[03:20] <morghanphoenix> Ah, X
[03:20] <Dr_willis> Usage: smbmnt mount-point [options] 
[03:20] <livingdaylight> Can someone help?
[03:20] <Dr_willis> |WAL|,  i tend to use smb4k to (let the users) browse/mount samba shares
[03:20] <livingdaylight> hmmmm....i expected a warmer welcome :(
[03:21] <morghanphoenix> Great, now ADOM works.
[03:21] <Dr_willis> !repos
[03:21] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:21] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[03:21] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:21] <v3ctor> !w32codecs
[03:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:21] <Dr_willis> !faq
[03:21] <ubotu> faq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[03:21] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:21] <Dr_willis> that auto keep ya busy for a while livingdaylight
[03:22] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: is there a script like easyubuntu or automatix that works in kubuntu?
[03:22] <v3ctor> lol
[03:22] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  enable the other repos.. and start installing
[03:22] <dinosaur-rus> chx: uh, restarting of the X server seems to help :)
[03:22] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: you put alot on my plate there, lol
[03:22] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  Avoide Automatix as if it was the BLack Plague.
[03:22] <morghanphoenix> Both of them work in kubuntu
[03:22] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  if you had learned how to isntall stuff manually under ubuntu..its the same under Kubuntu. :)
[03:22] <Ouaaahhhh> livingdaylight : http://www.beginningubuntu.com/dapper_tips.htm
[03:22] <livingdaylight> black plague?! ugh...
[03:22] <Dr_willis> Ouaaahhhh,  heh - dont think ive seen that one yet.
[03:22] <livingdaylight> thx, Ouaaahhhh
[03:23] <v3ctor> i still haven't seen that one
[03:23] <livingdaylight> Ouaaahhhh: didn't open. is it the right url?
[03:23] <Dr_willis> that page is 404 . :) and om not about to buy another book.
[03:23] <Ouaaahhhh> or this one : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[03:23] <Dr_willis> lol
[03:23] <Dr_willis> I got the "Ubuntu Hacks" book - its handy.
[03:24] <v3ctor> is it really good?
[03:24] <livingdaylight> Ouaaahhhh: ah...better, thx...: )
[03:24] <v3ctor> i thought about picking it up
[03:24] <Ouaaahhhh> sorry lost the "l" in html :http://www.beginningubuntu.com/dapper_tips.html
[03:24] <Dr_willis> v3ctor,  its got some neat chapters on some handy things and tips i dident know about.
[03:25] <Dr_willis> Ouaaahhhh,  they got a rather dumb web server then. :)
[03:25] <livingdaylight> Ouaaahhhh: problem is that is good for Ubuntu, and i'm using Kubuntu here
[03:26] <Ouaaahhhh> livingdaylight : telle me what specifically in kde ur looking ?
[03:26] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  90% of it still applies
[03:26] <livingdaylight> Ouaaahhhh: to add all repositories including plf and to install multimedia codecs
[03:26] <Dr_willis> Learn the Fundamentals - the rest is trivial :)
[03:26] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[03:27] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:27] <Dr_willis> can do that.
[03:27] <Ouaaahhhh> cause a lot are in common betw. gnome and kde apps ( thnx god)
[03:27] <arejaytee> what can i use to make a image of a dvd ive got?
[03:27] <Dr_willis> arejaytee,  an image? as in a whole whatever.iso file?
[03:27] <Ouaaahhhh> multimedia codecs it's there W32co... for divx
[03:27] <arejaytee> yeah
[03:27] <livingdaylight> what is the fundamental difference between ubuntu and kubuntu? In ubuntu everything is sudo apt-get install in Kubuntu?
[03:28] <BluesKaj> still trying to find a reopository that contains "gnormalize"
[03:28] <Ouaaahhhh> same toll under the hood
[03:28] <Ouaaahhhh> same tools under ...
[03:28] <BluesKaj> same trolls as well :)
[03:28] <PiR> hello
[03:28] <Ouaaahhhh> hehe
[03:28] <ZeiP_> Hi. I'm having an Ubuntu question (not specific to Kubuntu, using basic Ubuntu) but I don't seem to be able to speak on #Ubuntu... I'm trying to get freeradius installed, but something seems to be wrong: http://mureakuha.com/paste/?eb2e5414a7f097a5e5dff0459f68b1a9
[03:29] <livingdaylight> in Ubuntu i do gedit /etc/apt/blah blah in Kubuntu i do ?
[03:29] <PiR> does an equivalence for "youtube movie downloader" exist please ?
[03:29] <Dr_willis> pick some other editor
[03:29] <Dr_willis> PiR,  i found a firefox extension that lets me do that.
[03:29] <Ouaaahhhh> in kubuntu , u have kwrite /etc/apt/...
[03:29] <Ouaaahhhh> or kate /etc/apt
[03:29] <arejaytee> yeah was going to say if using firefox there is and for alot of other sites aswell
[03:29] <livingdaylight> thx
[03:29] <PiR> Do you remember the name ? Dr_willis ?
[03:29] <arejaytee> Dr_willis: any ideas?
[03:29] <livingdaylight> and instead of sudo kubuntu uses?
[03:30] <livingdaylight> ksudo?
[03:30] <xwolf-> kdesu
[03:30] <BluesKaj> brb
[03:30] <livingdaylight> kdesu, ok, thx
[03:30] <arejaytee> PiR: google download dailymotion and its the first link
[03:30] <xwolf-> sudo is more of a cli.
[03:30] <Ouaaahhhh> I think it's kdesu not ksudo
[03:30] <arejaytee> "download dailymotion"
[03:30] <livingdaylight> why did they make it kdesu. Its more to remember than ksudo
[03:30] <PiR> ok but i want to download movies in youtube, thakns
[03:31] <xwolf-> livingdaylight "kde super user"
[03:31] <livingdaylight> ksudo is more intuitive, anyway. i 'll remember tha tnow
[03:31] <Ouaaahhhh> livingdaylight : agree
[03:31] <livingdaylight> xwolf-: i know what it is
[03:31] <arejaytee> yeah the same extension does youtube
[03:31] <xwolf-> i like kdesu :P
[03:31] <arejaytee> it does most video sites
[03:31] <xwolf-> ksudo is ugly
[03:31] <PiR> ok
[03:31] <PiR> i've seen
[03:31] <PiR> thanks arejaytee
[03:31] <Ouaaahhhh> what's fun with linux s that u can name thinks like u want I.E. change kdesu to ksudo
[03:32] <ZeiP_> Do my lines show up here either?
[03:32] <livingdaylight> xwolf-: i can get used to kdesu, but in the traditionof putting a 'k' in front of apps in kde k+sudo would be logical, or to be expected
[03:32] <arejaytee> np
[03:32] <xwolf-> you can write a program that does that.
[03:32] <xwolf-> :)
[03:32] <n5> thanks Ouaaahhhh did something what you told me, and deleted some packages, and english is active, thanks
[03:32] <livingdaylight> Ouaaahhhh: yea, true....but first you have to know how to, and i'm a noob, secondly you have to have the time :)
[03:33] <Dr_willis> ZeiP_,  yes
[03:33] <sorush20> anyone here know of a kubuntu 6.06 dapper sonik pakcage?
[03:33] <sorush20> !sonik
[03:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sonik - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:33] <ZeiP_> Dr_willis: wonderful, so my problem is just too weird.
[03:34] <Dr_willis> ZeiP_,  i dident even see you post a question yet.
[03:34] <Ouaaahhhh> livingdaylight : ok  ur right learn at ur pace it's better otherwise u'll hate it
[03:35] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic do you tick packages and sources?
[03:35] <ZeiP_> Dr_willis: oh, I did.
[03:35] <ZeiP_> Hi. I'm having an Ubuntu question (not specific to Kubuntu, using basic Ubuntu) but I don't seem to be able to speak on #Ubuntu... I'm trying to get freeradius installed, but something seems to be wrong: http://mureakuha.com/paste/?eb2e5414a7f097a5e5dff0459f68b1a9
[03:36] <livingdaylight> Ouaaahhhh: no, otherwise, i just wouldn't be able to anyways, hehe Do you know how to change kdesu to ksudo?
[03:36] <ZeiP_> Dr_willis: saw it now? :)
[03:36] <livingdaylight> Ouaaahhhh: i wish i was a geek :|
[03:37] <Ouaaahhhh> I know but as u said I prefer not to :-)
[03:37] <Dr_willis> ZeiP_,  yep.. but  i know diddle abotu freeradius and i got to go to the store. :)
[03:37] <Ouaaahhhh> for ur safety
[03:37] <livingdaylight> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic do you guys tick packages and 'sources' or just packages? What's the difference?
[03:37] <ZeiP_> Dr_willis: doesn't seem like a freeradius thing, more like "I can't use apt-get, help me!" :)
[03:37] <KDEfanboy> livingdaylight: ksudo?
[03:38] <livingdaylight> KDEfanboy: huh?
[03:38] <KDEfanboy> livingdaylight: what is ksudo?
[03:38] <livingdaylight> KDEfanboy: its kdesu
[03:38] <Ouaaahhhh> yep livingdaylight wnats to change the name of kdesu to ksudo
[03:38] <KDEfanboy> o
[03:38] <Ouaaahhhh> I'm worry about teeling him how to do it
[03:39] <livingdaylight> I was just asking what the kubuntu version of 'sudo' in ubuntu is. I presumed it might be ksudo coz that would make sense
[03:39] <livingdaylight> Ouaaahhhh: hahaha, its cool. Maybe another time
[03:39] <Ouaaahhhh> ok
[03:39] <divansantana> kdesu
[03:40] <Torched> isn't it just...sudo?
[03:40] <Ouaaahhhh> u'll know someday
[03:40] <livingdaylight> but i'm asking whether to tick packages and sources in http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:40] <livingdaylight> Ouaaahhhh: just tell me; is it hard or easy?
[03:41] <Ouaaahhhh> not hard at all
[03:42] <Ouaaahhhh> Sonik : http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=34626&forummode=2&forumpage=0&forumexplevel=0
[03:43] <Ouaaahhhh> download ubuntu package . install "sudo dpkg -i sonik...deb"
[03:44] <PiR> How can i read a .flv movie in Kubuntu ? how can i convert this file in other supported format ?
[03:44] <livingdaylight> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic does Cipherphunk apply to kubuntu as well as Ubuntu. Its not specified
[03:46] <shriphani> guys where do i put w32 codecs ?
[03:46] <Ouaaahhhh> Cipherphunk ?
[03:46] <shriphani> like i got wmvdmod.dll and i have no idea where to put it in order to play stuff in kaffeine
[03:47] <livingdaylight> Ouaaahhhh: yea, its in between ubuntu and kubuntu on http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic where i'm putting together my repos list
[03:47] <narasimhan> shriphani:  /usr/lib/win32
[03:47] <shriphani> narasimhan: i dont see it there
[03:47] <shriphani> is it hidden ?
[03:47] <Ouaaahhhh> shriphani :install w32codecs by adept
[03:47] <narasimhan> shriphani: no u can create the directory if u want
[03:48] <livingdaylight> narasimhan: let adept worry about it and where to put it
[03:48] <narasimhan> shriphani: or do it from adept..
[03:48] <shriphani> narasimhan: and then it should work right
[03:48] <livingdaylight> Ouaaahhhh: do  you see Cipherphunk on http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic ? half way down betweeen ubuntu and kubuntu, so i don't know whether it belongs to boeth or not
[03:48] <narasimhan> livingdaylight: thats true..but xine says this..and progs like kaffeine search there..
[03:48] <shriphani> umm i am short of patience here cuz mah parents want to see a vid on this box
[03:49] <livingdaylight> dinosaur-rus: the more i use Kubuntu the more awed i become
[03:49] <narasimhan> shriphani: u can put it in /usr/lib/win32 it wont hurt
[03:49] <shriphani> so narasimhan i am creating the dir
[03:49] <narasimhan> shriphani: ok..
[03:49] <Ouaaahhhh> shriphani : easy install " w32codecs" by adept, nothing to do
[03:50] <Ouaaahhhh>  shriphan see this http://www.beginningubuntu.com/dapper_tips.html
[03:50] <TheGateKeeper> shriphani:
[03:50] <TheGateKeeper> wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[03:50] <TheGateKeeper> sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[03:50] <shriphani> well TheGateKeeper i already got them codecs
[03:50] <shriphani> narasimhan: dir made
[03:51] <shriphani> now its just copying right ?
[03:51] <narasimhan> shriphani: if u have got it from mplayer site .. then this is the way to do.../usr/lib/win32 ..copy the dlls there
[03:51] <narasimhan> shriphani: thats all
[03:51] <|WAL|> Dr_willis: sorry for the delay
[03:51] <|WAL|> Dr_willis: I don't have smbmnt
[03:52] <|WAL|> can I pastbin you the output of trying to get it?
[03:52] <livingdaylight> Ouaaahhhh: i've compiled my repos list. Can you tell me where i copy it to? kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list?
[03:52] <shriphani> ok copied
[03:52] <narasimhan> shriphani: u have kaffeine right?
[03:52] <shriphani> yes narasimhan
[03:52] <narasimhan> shriphani: i think it shld work
[03:53] <arejaytee> whats the easiet way to make a backup of this dvd ive got in kubuntu?
[03:53] <narasimhan> shriphani: are u trying now?
[03:53] <shriphani> didnt work
[03:54] <gemidjy> [17271731.112000]  VFS: busy inodes on changed media.
[03:54] <Ouaaahhhh>  your repos list should be in /etc/apt/source.list then do a "kdesu apt-get update"
[03:54] <narasimhan> shriphani: u put the dlls right?
[03:54] <shriphani> narasimhan: yes
[03:54] <livingdaylight> Ouaaahhhh: so, kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[03:55] <narasimhan> thats how it works..anyway..w32codecs it seems shld do it...
[03:55] <shriphani> or should i get the codecs with adept
[03:55] <gemidjy> I start k3b, put in a CD a press burn, it won't burn, and then the /dev/'s are changed, /dev/cdrom points to /dev/hdc which actually is /dev/dvd (before I started k3b they were /dev/dvd->/dev/hdc and /dev/cdrom->/dev/hdd), and in dmesg (/var/log/messages) I constantly get that error
[03:55] <gemidjy> [17271731.112000]  VFS: busy inodes on changed media.
[03:55] <narasimhan> shriphani: ok try that too..
[03:55] <shriphani> cuz the one i downloaded came from dll.com
[03:55] <gemidjy> namaste narasimhan
[03:55] <narasimhan> gemidjy: namaste..
[03:56] <gemidjy> hiranyakashipu vakshaha :)
[03:56] <livingdaylight> Ouaaahhhh: and do i replace or add the repos list i've come up with?
[03:56] <narasimhan> gemidjy: ah..
[03:56] <narasimhan> gemidjy: :)
[03:56] <gemidjy> :)
[03:56] <livingdaylight> Ouaaahhhh: through -sourcematic
[03:56] <Ouaaahhhh> gemidjy : is the CD containing mp3
[03:57] <Ouaaahhhh> ?
[03:57] <gemidjy> Ouaaahhhh: ney, it is Blank CD, it happens with every blank CD i put in
[03:57] <ronnie> ok bye...
[03:58] <Ouaaahhhh> livingdaylight : in the terminal : type " sudo kwrite /etc/apt/source.list" then add ouy list of repos at the end , then save it. you still need to update by typing " sudo apt-get update"
[03:58] <livingdaylight> Ouaaahhhh: you mean kdesu?
[03:59] <Ouaaahhhh> gemidjy look at /etc/fstab
[03:59] <Ouaaahhhh> sudo = kdesu
[03:59] <Ouaaahhhh> hehe
[03:59] <livingdaylight> Ouaaahhhh: ? you wrote sudo? you mean kdesu?
[03:59] <gemidjy> Ouaaahhhh
[03:59] <gemidjy> /dev/hdd /media/cdrom0 auto user,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
[03:59] <gemidjy> /dev/hdc /media/dvd0 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
[04:00] <|WAL|> I have a problem getting smbfs please help... http://pastebin.ulteo.us/158
 : /dev/hdd /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
[04:01] <Ouaaahhhh> should be that no ?
[04:02] <livingdaylight> Ouaaahhhh: so you can use sudo in kubuntu too?
[04:02] <Ouaaahhhh> where is the iso9660 for Cdrom
[04:03] <Ouaaahhhh> livingdaylight yes u can use sudo. kubuntu is the same plateforme as gnome except kdm
[04:03] <Ouaaahhhh> and kubunt desktop
[04:03] <Ouaaahhhh> same motor
[04:03] <livingdaylight> Ouaaahhhh: lol, all that talk of kdesu and ksudo. If i can use sudo i'll carry on with that. I thought it was something else in kubuntu. I was wrong
[04:04] <gemidjy> Ouaaahhhh: brb, let me try
[04:04] <Ouaaahhhh> livingdaylight : lol
[04:05] <ricanelite> Who here has IE6 installed Under Ubuntu Linux?
[04:05] <dinosaur-rus> ricanelite: it's Linux, not WIndows
[04:06] <Ouaaahhhh> you can install IE on ubuntu
[04:06] <Ouaaahhhh> but it suks
[04:07] <ricanelite> Yeah, I know I did it using Wine, but when the install went through and I restarted my machine I cannot find it to open it up
[04:07] <dinosaur-rus> Quaaahhhh: I guess you'll need wine to install and run IE...
[04:07] <Ouaaahhhh> see :http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_install_Internet_Explorer_.2B_Flash_9
[04:07] <dinosaur-rus> ricanelite: try to re-install wine at first, then the IE
[04:08] <Ouaaahhhh> seems u don't need wine for this version
[04:08] <ricanelite> I have installed Wine already
[04:08] <ricanelite> thats works fine and then I decided to put in IE6 and the install went perfect but I just dont know where to go to open up IE
[04:10] <dinosaur-rus> ricanelite: may be "wine "c:/Program Files/Internet Explorer/iexplore.exe""?
[04:10] <|WAL|> I have a problem getting smbfs please help... http://pastebin.ulteo.us/158
[04:10] <ricanelite> umm
[04:10] <ricanelite> let me check that out
[04:11] <dinosaur-rus> ricanelite: of course without the outer quotes :P
[04:11] <ricanelite> haha, I typed in under run command wine iexplorer.exe and it opens up and nothing happens
[04:11] <ricanelite> oh boy!!
[04:12] <gemidjy> Ouaaahhhh: u were right, fstab got s*rewed, don't know how since I never have opened it :S
[04:12] <dinosaur-rus> ricanelite: what do you mean by saying "it opens up and nothing happens"?
[04:13] <ricanelite> the Wine desktop opens and then the smaller windows inside the Wine Desktop windows is just white
[04:13] <ricanelite> It also installed the Geko update I guess for the HTML Coding
[04:14] <ricanelite> but then after that was done installing nothing else happens
[04:14] <ricanelite> think I need to restart my computer?
[04:14] <dinosaur-rus> ricanelite: try to specify the full path (I gave you)
[04:14] <ricanelite> How i do that?
[04:14] <ricanelite> I'm a Linux Newbie, so I get confuse very easy
[04:15] <Ouaaahhhh> gemidjy : good. strange that the partition was changed spontaneously
[04:15] <ricanelite> Like for example right now I'm looking at a Wine Desktop Windows and then inside that window it is Wine Internet Explorer and that windows is in White.
[04:16] <livingdaylight> Ouaaahhhh: #6 of the ubuntu guide says: sudo or gksudo means superuser do. sudo will prompt for "Password:". Please specify your user password.
[04:16] <dinosaur-rus> ricanelite: in Konsole type wine "c:/Program Files/Internet Explorer/iexplore.exe"
[04:16] <Ouaaahhhh> yep type ur password
[04:17] <livingdaylight> Ouaaahhhh: nothing about gkdesu
[04:17] <Ouaaahhhh> no lol
[04:17] <livingdaylight> sudo or gksudo
[04:17] <ricanelite> it says cannot fine c:/Program
[04:18] <Ouaaahhhh> ricanelite : it's bacause it doesn't like space between words
[04:18] <Ouaaahhhh> or because it's \ not  /
[04:19] <Ouaaahhhh> like in ms
[04:19] <dinosaur-rus> ricanelite: use quotes for the path
[04:19] <arejaytee> god damn it wont read this dvd disc
[04:19] <|WAL|> I have a problem getting smbfs please help... http://pastebin.ulteo.us/158
[04:19] <ricanelite> so i will type it like this wine "c:/Program Files/Internet Explorer/iexplore.exe
[04:21] <ricanelite> it says "wine: cannot find 'c:/Program Files/Internet Explorer/iexplore.exe'
[04:21] <KDEfanboy> livingdaylight: better to use kubuntu guide, not ubuntu guide http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[04:22] <livingdaylight> KDEfanboy: thx, man. I was being led astray by Ouaaahhhh...hehe :)
[04:23] <Ouaaahhhh> haha
[04:23] <dinosaur-rus> ricanelite: then do ls "~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files"
[04:24] <Ouaaahhhh> |WAL| : you need this version of samba-common : 3.0.22-1ubuntu3
[04:24] <Ouaaahhhh> not the 3.0.22-1ubuntu1 you are installing
[04:25] <ricanelite> No Such File or Directory
[04:25] <|WAL|> Ouaaahhhh: how do I downgrade?
[04:25] <ricanelite> Now that is weird because I know for sure it installed IE6 because when I tried to run ie6setup.exe again it said it has been already installed
[04:26] <livingdaylight> KDEfanboy: thx, again, really nice and well put-together guide - enjoying it very much...
[04:26] <KDEfanboy> livingdaylight: np. found it easily by going to the website, then clicking 'Documentation'
[04:27] <truiu> |WAL|: try to remove samba-common and install smbfs. samba-common - hopefully the right version - should be reinstalled automaticly
[04:27] <livingdaylight> KDEfanboy: lol, haven't been there yet
[04:28] <LimonJalisciense> i cant installl my hp computer on my ubuntu sys
[04:28] <|WAL|> truiu: I'll try that
[04:29] <Ouaaahhhh> |WAL| : in adept , look for samba-common if you find 3.0.22-1ubuntu3, install it if not you should look at the repository list in adept to see if you didn't activate a  source or didn't get universe package source
[04:29] <LimonJalisciense> epaol
[04:29] <LimonJalisciense> espaol
[04:29] <arkady> kde 3.5.5 available in kubuntu repository :)
[04:30] <Ouaaahhhh> KDEfanboy : thx
[04:30] <Ouaaahhhh> this guide is great
[04:30] <|WAL|> Ouaaahhhh: truiu's suggestion seems to work
[04:30] <|WAL|> truiu: I think that's gonna do it
[04:31] <Ouaaahhhh> |WAL| : good
[04:31] <truiu> |WAL|: good
[04:31] <Ouaaahhhh> kde 3.5.5 is here
[04:32] <Ouaaahhhh> hummm
[04:32] <Ouaaahhhh> didn't find under kubuntu.com
[04:33] <arkady> Ouaaahhhh: http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355/
[04:33] <|WAL|> Ouaaahhhh: thanks for the help, bye
[04:33] <|WAL|> truiu: thanks for the help
[04:34] <Ouaaahhhh> bye
[04:34] <Ouaaahhhh> arkady : thx
[04:35] <ricanelite> Hey Dinosaur!
[04:36] <arkady> Ouaaahhhh: np :) there's not an official announce yet and kde-latest doesn't point to the new dir, but you can upgrade right now
[04:38] <dinosaur-rus> ricanelite: eh?
[04:39] <ricanelite> Yeah, I tried the command you told me and nothing happen
[04:39] <ricanelite> So when I tried to run IE6setup.exe it said there is already a newer version in this System and Setup cannot continue
[04:40] <danimo> heya!
[04:40] <dinosaur-rus> ricanelite: then in filemanager move to ~/.wine and look the correct path from there
[04:40] <dinosaur-rus> danimo: hi
[04:40] <ricanelite> How do I get to the File Manager?
[04:43] <dinosaur-rus> ricanelite: Konqueror can act as a filemanager
[04:43] <ricanelite> Okay I'm in ~/.wine
[04:43] <ricanelite> Now what I do next
[04:43] <dinosaur-rus> ricanelite: what dirs a there?
[04:43] <dinosaur-rus> *are
[04:43] <ricanelite> Common Files, Internet Explorer, Outlook Express, Wine_gecko
[04:44] <ricanelite> when I click on Internet Explorer I see ie6setup.exe and I open it up with "Wine" and it starts the install and then says a Newer Version was dectected on the system and Setup cannot proceed.
[04:45] <scott_w|lappy> why on earth do you want to use IE on linux?
[04:45] <ricanelite> well I'm trying to get a Java Application for work and I have a feeling it is intergrated with IE
[04:45] <dinosaur-rus> ricanelite: oh, you have these directly under ~/.wine ??? O_O oohhh
[04:46] <ricanelite> I guess
[04:46] <ricanelite> lol
[04:46] <ricanelite> I'm sorry I could'nt be specfic
[04:46] <ricanelite> Is that bad?
[04:47] <ricanelite> Did I do something wrong?
[04:47] <scott_w|lappy> well, god just killed a kitten...
[04:49] <ricanelite> dinosaur-rus you there?
[04:49] <dinosaur-rus> ricanelite: have you configured Wine's devices?
[04:50] <ricanelite> do I have to allow Directx?
[04:51] <ricanelite> I have opened winecfg so tell me what I need to do
[04:52] <dinosaur-rus> ricanelite: look "Drives" tab (don't remember exactly)
[04:52] <ricanelite> Okay, do I select "Auto Detect"
[04:53] <dennister> good morning
[04:53] <dinosaur-rus> ricanelite: do you have "c:" drive there?
[04:54] <ricanelite> Yeah it is there
[04:54] <dinosaur-rus> dennister: hi, but it's evening here :)
[04:54] <ricanelite> ../drive_c
[04:54] <ricanelite> that is the labe;
[04:54] <ricanelite> label*
[04:55] <dinosaur-rus> ricanelite: so it's in you home directory???
[04:55] <ricanelite> What is IE?
[04:56] <dennister> unrar question: directions for usage is to use unrar e "part01.rar", but the command didn't work with the only rar file amongst the group
[04:56] <ricanelite> This is how it is setup Drive Mappings and it is label ../drive_c
[04:57] <dennister> the command "unrar e *.r00" didn't work either
[04:57] <dennister> how do i use unrar?
[04:58] <dennister> ricanelite: IE is internet explorer, from microshaft
[04:58] <ricanelite> Yeah
[04:58] <ricanelite> I know!
[04:58] <dinosaur-rus> ricanelite: uh, try #winehq channel :))
[04:58] <ricanelite> Okay
[04:58] <felixjet> VMWare emulate full directx ?
[04:58] <ricanelite> I will, LOL
[04:58] <ricanelite> Now I have one more question
[04:58] <felixjet> VMWare emulate full directx ?
[04:59] <ricanelite> For my job we use a Application that is .jnlp file which we all know is a Java File
[04:59] <ricanelite> Now I have installed this, but when I try to Run it the application loads but does not fully open
[05:00] <dennister> hi Porkotron
[05:00] <truiu> ricanelite: this file is for starting via JavaWebStart
[05:00] <ricanelite> Yeah it opens up and starts to load but then the turns off no error message or nothing
[05:00] <ricanelite> just disappears
[05:01] <dennister> ricanelite: have u got java webstart installed?
[05:01] <truiu> ricanelite: check if you use the sun JRE in webstart
[05:02] <ricanelite> It opens and says Starting Application and then it goes away
[05:02] <ricanelite> Yes It is open with Sun JRE Webstart
[05:04] <truiu> Strange. I had prolems like this when i was using another JRE for runing webstart-apps. I just had to switch to the sun jre in the settings menu of javaws
[05:06] <dennister> ricanelite: i found that rebooting brought javaws to light...like magic :-)
[05:07] <ricanelite> Still nothing Happens
[05:07] <dennister> i can't remember if i did something else first tho, sorry
[05:07] <truiu> do you have all other jres deactivated?
[05:07] <ricanelite> How can I check that?
[05:07] <dennister> can anyone help with unrar usage?
[05:08] <Goop2> C cboyann.e cyw nrii.e rgyw nrii.e cbw abe cy oycnn eceby ,rpt
[05:08] <truiu> start javaws; go to the settings menu, go to "java", look for the checkboxes behind the jre names
[05:08] <ricanelite> Like when I open the Java Application Cache Viewer I see the Application I'm trying to open and has like a plug Icon Status
[05:08] <Hawkwind> dennister: What exactly do you need ?
[05:08] <Goop2> *I installed it, logged out, logged in, and it still didnt work
[05:09] <Hawkwind> dennister: If you're trying to unrar stuff you downloaded, unrar e file1.rar  for example
[05:09] <dennister> ah..Hawkwind! downloaded unrar, found the usage string command. but it's not working
[05:09] <ricanelite> wait, How do I check that again
[05:09] <dennister> i'm in the right directory, tried "unrar e *rar"
[05:10] <dennister> and "unrar e *roo"
[05:10] <Hawkwind> You can't do that
[05:10] <Hawkwind> dennister: Paste me one of the file names please
[05:10] <dennister> here?
[05:10] <dennister> privately?
[05:10] <Hawkwind> dennister: You can do it in PM if you want
[05:11] <truiu> ricanelite: I dont realy now what the Java Application Cache Viewer is - i use the german verison. but i am speaking of the main window of java web start. there in the file menu are the settings
[05:12] <Goop2> does anyone know how to make the penguin button open the kmenu? or is it possible?
[05:12] <ricanelite> I have one that I do not know about it is %featureName and the "Vendor" %providerName
[05:12] <ricanelite> Is that Important?
[05:14] <Goop2> anybody? nobody?
[05:14] <fulat2k> hi folks, need some help to configure my wifi connection on kubuntu. i've tried both dhcp and static.  both don't work.  static settings can at least get it connected.  but if i ping my router, it says destination host unreachable.
[05:14] <fulat2k> any pointers?
[05:14] <livingdaylight> does that happen: Adept freezing? how long should i wait?
[05:17] <bubblenut> Hi what's the name of the package which allows me to manage applications I've compiled from source via apt
[05:17] <truiu> ricanelite: in my case setting the sun jre 1.5 as default and deactivating all the others solved my poblems. there was also blackdown(?) and sun jre 1.4 in the list
[05:17] <cyberhell86> hey! does somebody know how i can make a dial-up connection with ubuntu.... but i mean I want to use my cellphone.... :S
[05:17] <buz> fulat2k: do you use encryption?
[05:17] <KDEfanboy> bubblenut: checkinstall makes debs
[05:18] <bubblenut> Awesome, thanks KDEfanboy
[05:18] <livingdaylight> KUBUNTU ROCKS!
[05:18] <Goop2> KDE
[05:18] <livingdaylight> even if Adept just crashed - KUBUNTU ROCKS!
[05:18] <fulat2k> buz: just WEP.  got that set.
[05:19] <Goop2> KDE pwnz
[05:19] <fulat2k> buz: i'm using static rite now coz somehow DHCP can't get the broadcast from the dhcp server.
[05:19] <buz> thats probably an encryption issue
[05:20] <buz> or can you access the net with static?
[05:20] <buz> !NetworkManager
[05:20] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[05:20] <buz> you might want to try that
[05:20] <buz> works for me
[05:20] <buz> even with WPA
[05:21] <dennister> k...finally gonna watch a movie while i cook turkey...bye for now folks
[05:21] <ricanelite> I tried to restart the machine and still it does not open :(
[05:21] <fulat2k> i can see that it's connected using static.  just can't ping the gateway i.e. the router.  is there something to do with routing? i have a wifi card as well as a eth0.
[05:23] <Goop2> anybody know how to make the penguin button open the kmenu?
[05:24] <cyberhell86> can somebody tell me where i can download a software to play dvd, divx and mp3 on ubuntu?? :S
[05:25] <truiu> ricanelite: hmm, you can enable logging in javaws. maybe the logs help to find the problem. see here: http://athena.bioc.uvic.ca/techDoc/jws/jwstips
[05:26] <livingdaylight> i hope i haven't killed Adept?
[05:26] <livingdaylight> it won't come up for me :s
[05:26] <ricanelite> How do you run a Script?
[05:26] <livingdaylight> anyone know about Adept crashing and/or breaking?
[05:27] <buz> !RestrictedFormats
[05:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:27] <livingdaylight> i tried to install flsh-nonfree, it froze i shut it down, and now it wont come up again - help!
[05:27] <Ouaaahhhh> ricanelite : first , make it executable : chmod 755 your-script
[05:27] <Ouaaahhhh> then launch ./your-script
[05:28] <livingdaylight> anyone know anything about my problem with Adept i've posted?
[05:28] <livingdaylight> Ouaaahhhh: 'cmmon, help me out here, please
[05:28] <Ouaaahhhh> adept freeze ?
[05:28] <livingdaylight> Ouaaahhhh: yea!
[05:28] <Goop2> what exactly is a 'nonfree' format?
[05:28] <livingdaylight> Goop2: non-GPL
[05:29] <buz> actually no
[05:29] <Ouaaahhhh> nonfree = commercical
[05:29] <buz> anything that has limitations on it
[05:29] <livingdaylight> Goop2: one that is not freesoftware
[05:29] <buz> i.e. your not free to build it yourself
[05:29] <livingdaylight> Ouaaahhhh: tell me, whats up with Adept?
[05:29] <Goop2> oh
[05:29] <Goop2> I get it now :)
[05:29] <ricanelite> I do all of this in the terminal?
[05:29] <buz> livingdaylight: thats not correct; there are numerous free GPL implemenations, but MP3 still isnt a free format
[05:29] <livingdaylight> there is freesoftware and there is non-freesoftware
[05:29] <Ouaaahhhh> livingdaylight type "top " in konsole , see if adept running = taking cpu
[05:30] <arkady> livingdaylight: konsole -> then type "sudo dpkg --configure -a", then restart adept
[05:30] <buz> "A Free or open format is one which can be used by anyone, free of legal restrictions on how they use the forma"
[05:31] <livingdaylight> arkady: that command does what, may i ask?
[05:31] <Ouaaahhhh> ricanelite : locate your script , go to this directory, then type "chmod 755 your-script"
[05:31] <livingdaylight> Ouaaahhhh: thx, adept doesn't appear to be running
[05:32] <livingdaylight> Ouaaahhhh: would it be listed by name?
[05:32] <Ouaaahhhh> then type  ./your-script
[05:33] <Ouaaahhhh> livingdaylight : kill the window :  ctrl-alt-esc , then with the mouse your click on the window to kill it
[05:33] <Ouaaahhhh> do what arkady says
[05:33] <Ouaaahhhh> after that
[05:33] <shriphani> guys i got wmvdmod.dll in the folder but kaffeine says its got problems
[05:34] <livingdaylight> arkady: is Adept that sensitive? what did i do?
[05:34] <shriphani> and i cant connect to cipherfunk.org
[05:34] <shriphani> apt-get update stops there
[05:34] <Goop2> well it is morning.. my hair is greasy and uncomfortable.. and Im hungry
[05:34] <livingdaylight> Ouaaahhhh: i had no problem shutting Adept down. I had already done so
[05:34] <Goop2> ttyl peeps
[05:34] <livingdaylight> should i reboot?
[05:34] <Ouaaahhhh> no need to rebbot
[05:35] <arkady> livingdaylight: when you install flash nonfree a dialog apper for accepting the licence, adept cannot display it properly and it hangs, leaving the package not configured
[05:35] <Ouaaahhhh> type "ps ax | grep adept" see the output
[05:35] <fdoving> !adept crash fix
[05:35] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[05:35] <fdoving> use that ^^
[05:36] <livingdaylight> arkady: aha! thats good to know. So, what is the solution?
[05:36] <livingdaylight> arkady: via konsole?
[05:36] <shriphani> guys what do i do ?
[05:36] <arkady> livingdaylight: what i said above, yes
[05:37] <arkady> livingdaylight: in that way you configure all the packages that remain not configured properly
[05:37] <shriphani> !w32
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <shriphani> !w32codecs
[05:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:37] <livingdaylight> arkady: not sure what to do now. sudo apt-get install flash-nonfree?>
[05:38] <atroWork> I'm trying to get synergy started at the KDE login screen, can anybody tell me how I start a program before login (such as gnome's /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default file)
[05:38] <Ouaaahhhh> livingdaylight: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:39] <livingdaylight> Ouaaahhhh: i've done that. Did that reconfigure Adept?
[05:40] <Ouaaahhhh> it reconfigure your package list from source.list
[05:41] <livingdaylight> well Adept is still not coming up
[05:42] <livingdaylight> great Adept is dead
[05:42] <Ouaaahhhh> then "sudo apt-get install flash-....." to install it, you need to accept the licence term to install this package
[05:42] <|WAL|> anyone know much about iPod's and amarok?
[05:42] <livingdaylight> Ouaaahhhh: but i need Adept, besides i tried by command line and it didn't work either
[05:43] <Ouaaahhhh> why did it work ?
[05:43] <livingdaylight> why did what work?
[05:43] <Ouaaahhhh>  why didn't it work ?
[05:43] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:44] <felixjet> why did not what work?
[05:44] <felixjet> XD
[05:44] <Ouaaahhhh> thx
[05:44] <Ouaaahhhh> haha
[05:45] <Ouaaahhhh> good job
[05:45] <livingdaylight> should have just used easyubuntu
[05:46] <livingdaylight> well, now what?
[05:46] <livingdaylight> the magical sudo dpkg --configure -a command hasn't brought the Adept rabbit out of the hat
[05:46] <livingdaylight> Guys, don't make me crawl back to SuSE!
[05:47] <Ouaaahhhh> haha
[05:47] <livingdaylight> what do i do? :s
[05:47] <fdoving> livingdaylight: did you try 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;dpkg --configure -a' from konsole?
[05:48] <livingdaylight> fdoving: no ,not that one
[05:48] <CelloG> is there someone who can help me debug the install of my ATI graphics card driver for kubuntu?
[05:48] <fdoving> livingdaylight: go for it :)
[05:48] <Blacken> CelloG: Probably, what flavor?
[05:48] <livingdaylight> that's a hell of a command ....heheh...
[05:48] <fdoving> livingdaylight: it's actually two in a row, separated by semicolon.
[05:48] <CelloG> X1300 LE (RV515 7146)
[05:48] <Blacken> CelloG: Heh, same card as me...
[05:49] <CelloG> :) that should make this easy
[05:49] <CelloG> I'm running in 64-bit, btw
[05:49] <Blacken> CelloG: Not sure how that'll affect an install.
[05:49] <CelloG> I found the binary howto, ran the instructions, and on reboot, got a black screen, so I'm using the livecd right now
[05:49] <livingdaylight> nope
[05:49] <Blacken> CelloG: Which binary?
[05:50] <Blacken> CelloG: Download-from-ATI, or from the repositories?
[05:50] <livingdaylight> fdoving: that's not bringing it back to life either. What have i done?!
[05:50] <CelloG> I've got the drive mounted and can look at the Xorg.0.log/xorg.conf
[05:50] <CelloG> from repositories, should I use the ATI one?
[05:50] <fdoving> livingdaylight: can't you start it?
[05:50] <Blacken> CelloG: The repository one NEVER worked for me.
[05:50] <CelloG> ok figures
[05:50] <Ouaaahhhh> livingdaylight : type  find / -name *flash*
[05:50] <livingdaylight> fdoving: no, i get as far as giving the password but Adept just doesn't come up
[05:50] <Blacken> CelloG: Copy your old backup xorg.conf over the current one, that'll let you get back up and running.
[05:50] <CelloG> Blacken: so did you just run the thing from the Linux Driver FAQ at ATI?
[05:51] <Blacken> CelloG: Nope.
[05:51] <Blacken> CelloG: Gimme a sec.
[05:51] <CelloG> yeah I've done that once already, so I'm familiar with the method :)
[05:51] <fdoving> livingdaylight: can you run 'kdesu adept' from konsole? does it give any errors?
[05:51] <kubuntu_tester> hello folks
[05:51] <Ouaaahhhh> hi
[05:51] <fdoving> hi kubuntu_tester.
[05:51] <kubuntu_tester> I have installed scribus from repositories but can't write on a document
[05:52] <kubuntu_tester> why?
[05:52] <CelloG> Blacken: should I reboot with the original vesa and come back online from the HD install now?
[05:52] <livingdaylight> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[05:52] <livingdaylight>   Major opcode:  144
[05:52] <kubuntu_tester> only numbers work
[05:52] <livingdaylight>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:52] <livingdaylight>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:52] <fdoving> livingdaylight: that's normal, and please use 'pastebin.
[05:52] <livingdaylight> Failed to open device
[05:52] <livingdaylight> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[05:52] <livingdaylight>   Major opcode:  144
[05:52] <livingdaylight>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:52] <Blacken> livingdaylight: Pastebin.
[05:52] <Blacken> CelloG: That can't hurt.
[05:52] <Blacken> +1 fdoving
[05:53] <kubuntu_tester> anyone can help me?
[05:53] <kubuntu_tester> it's really strange
[05:53] <CelloG> ok brb
[05:53] <Blacken> kubuntu_tester: Sounds like a software problem. Why not check a Scribus channel?
[05:53] <livingdaylight> thx, fdoving, won't happen again
[05:53] <fdoving> livingdaylight: sorry i had to remove you, pasting error messages into the  channel like that isn't very nice.
[05:53] <kubuntu_tester> hmmm, ok Blacken
[05:53] <fdoving> !pastebin > livingdaylight
[05:53] <Blacken> kubuntu_tester: #scribus perhaps?
[05:54] <kubuntu_tester> I come here coz ubuntu team created the package
[05:54] <fdoving> livingdaylight: did you get the message from ubotu?
[05:54] <Blacken> kubuntu_tester: Understandable, but they didn't create the software and I doubt many people here use Scribus.
[05:54] <livingdaylight> fdoving:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26320/
[05:55] <kubuntu_tester> undestandable, what?
[05:55] <livingdaylight> fdoving: yea, like i said sorry about flooding
[05:55] <kubuntu_tester> my phrase?
[05:55] <|WAL|> anyone know much about iPod's and amarok?
[05:55] <livingdaylight> fdoving: now, do you know what i have to do to restore Adept and my system's integrity?
[05:57] <fdoving> livingdaylight: you can run adept from konsole with 'sudo adept' i guess. it's a problem with 'kdesu' i think. did you get the chance to enter you password before with the other command? (kdesu adept)
[05:58] <CelloG> Blacken: ok back and running from HD
[05:59] <Blacken> CelloG: Do you have universe repos open?
[05:59] <kubuntu_tester> Blacken: ???
[06:00] <CelloG> think so, how can I verify? /etc/apt/thingy?
[06:00] <Blacken> CelloG: You'll know quickly if you don't. Input this: sudo apt-get install fakeroot gcc-3.4 module-assistant build-essential debhelper
[06:01] <CelloG> Blacken: it asks me to install, so I must have enabled it
[06:02] <Blacken> CelloG: Yup. You need fakeroot for the "other way".
[06:03] <CelloG> Blacken: ok done
[06:03] <kubuntu_tester> Blacken: try to speak another language than english...then we will see
[06:03] <kubuntu_tester> pfff!
[06:03] <livingdaylight> fdoving: hey, i missed that last message o yours. I thought, what the heck, and rebooted. Seems Adept has come back!
[06:03] <Blacken> kubuntu_tester: You are making no sense whatsoever.
[06:04] <kubuntu_tester> bla bla bla
[06:04] <Blacken> CelloG: Alright, hold on one sec while I find the file.
[06:04] <kubuntu_tester> fuck you!
[06:04] <Blacken> Mods, LART him--aw, too slow.
[06:04] <fdoving> livingdaylight: ok, glad you got it working :)
[06:04] <Hawkwind> That was just lovely
[06:04] <Blacken> cellog: wget www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8.29.6.run
[06:05] <CelloG> I'm guessing I run it after it's downloaded
[06:06] <Blacken> CelloG: Not quite.
[06:06] <livingdaylight> fdoving: but the tip is don't install flash or anything that requires permission coz the dialog box becomes hidden ?
[06:06] <gnomefreak> CelloG: that command will download it
[06:06] <Blacken> livingdaylight: Doing it in a term should let you view it.
[06:06] <fdoving> livingdaylight: yes, not sure if you can input anything if you click 'show details' in the adept install dialog.
[06:07] <Blacken> fdoving: Not sure about Adept (POS), but Synaptic lets you.
[06:07] <livingdaylight> Blacken: yea, ok, i wish i'd a know, pheweee
[06:07] <Blacken> CelloG: Once it's downloaded, open a konsole and type: fakeroot sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.29.6.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper
[06:07] <CelloG> gnomefreak: I know, I was asking about running the file once it's downloaded
[06:07] <gnomefreak> oh
[06:07] <Blacken> livingdaylight: Adept is pain incarnate. Synaptic is at least sane.
[06:07] <livingdaylight> I want to say Synaptic is a much better frontend to APT than Adept (in my opinion)
[06:07] <CelloG> thanks though :)
[06:08] <livingdaylight> Blacken: lol, you took the words right out of my mouth
[06:08] <Blacken> CelloG: Fair warning...this is how I did it on a 32-bit card. It may not work, but I have an idea for if it doesn't.
[06:08] <Blacken> er, 32-bit system
[06:08] <CelloG> Blacken: I read about this on ATI site, it supports 64 bit
[06:08] <CelloG> ok the packages are generated
[06:09] <Blacken> livingdaylight: That's what nano's for. =)
[06:09] <CelloG> install them?
[06:09] <Blacken> CelloG: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[06:09] <CelloG> Blacken: done
[06:09] <Blacken> CelloG: Then afterwards, "sudo module-assistant prepare,update" and then "sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel"
[06:09] <Blacken> CelloG: Then sudo depmod
[06:10] <CelloG> depmod or depmod -a?
[06:10] <Blacken> CelloG: no need for -a
[06:11] <livingdaylight> there's quite a list of Jre 1.4's :s
[06:11] <CelloG> Blacken: ok done
[06:11] <CelloG> Blacken: thanks so much, this is great, I am looking forward to having this work :)
[06:11] <Blacken> arkady: It's more versatile, but it's a kludge and hard to use.
[06:11] <Blacken> CelloG: No problem...you should have a built kernel now. If you reboot, it should default to that kernel.
[06:11] <_Shade_> hi there
[06:11] <arkady> Blacken: yeah, it needs some love ;)
[06:11] <Blacken> CelloG: Then just go "glxinfo | grep direct"
[06:12] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: sun-java5-plugin  will get you -jre -bin and -plugin
[06:12] <CelloG> k brb
[06:12] <Blacken> CelloG: If it says "Direct Rendering: yes", you're good.
[06:12] <Blacken> CelloG: If not, time for fun and games.
[06:12] <_Shade_> will be kde3.5.5 included in edgy by default?
[06:12] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: unless you need jdk
[06:12] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: i don't see that on the list
[06:12] <gnomefreak> _Shade_: yes mostly done
[06:12] <trappist> _Shade_: last I heard, that hasn't been decided yet
[06:12] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: enable multiverse rpeo
[06:12] <gnomefreak> repo
[06:12] <gnomefreak> trappist: its almost done uploading
[06:12] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: hey, what you doing in kde land anyways :D
[06:13] <gnomefreak> it was decided lastnight
[06:13] <trappist> gnomefreak: awesome!
[06:13] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: i use kde
[06:13] <_Shade_> yeah i have seen it on kubuntu.com
[06:13] <|WAL|> anyone know much about iPod's and amarok?
[06:13] <Blacken> I'm confused...why would Ubuntu magically decide to install a 2.4-series kernel alongside my 2.6 one?
[06:13] <gnomefreak> |WAL|: what about it?
[06:13] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: lol, i always assumed you used Gnole
[06:13] <livingdaylight> *Gnome
[06:13] <JohnFlux_> Blacken: just incase? :)
[06:13] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: i use 6or more DE's
[06:14] <_Shade_> hey guys do you know where can i get some latest kubuntu related news since kubuntu.com doesn't offer too much
[06:14] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: okay :)
[06:14] <trappist> _Shade_: you could subscribe to the kubuntu-devel mailing list
[06:14] <gnomefreak> _Shade_: kubuntu.org or you can use a rss feed
[06:14] <gnomefreak> or that list ;)
[06:14] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: desktopfreak?
[06:14] <Blacken> JohnFlux_: Perhaps...I just noticed that after I finished beating the ATI driver package into my kernel, it spawned a 2.4 SMP kernel alongside a 2.6 i386 kernel (I need to update that to a 686 SMP, as I have a Core Duo, but I don't want to have to bludgeon my way through the graphics process again).
[06:14] <CelloG> Blacken: what waas the glxinfo command again?
[06:14] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: i choose to test for ubuntu so i test i test everything :)
[06:14] <Blacken> CelloG: glxinfo | grep direct
[06:15] <CelloG> Blacken: Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[06:15] <gnomefreak> glxinfo should output if you have direct rendering
[06:15] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: Cool!
[06:15] <gnomefreak> and alot more info
[06:15] <Blacken> CelloG: Erp. You've just gone past where I know...that *should* have worked.
[06:15] <|WAL|> gnomefreak: my ipod is detected and I can see it as a device in amarok, but if I try to add songs to the playlist, none of them will actually play
[06:15] <gnomefreak> Blacken: install fluxbox than
[06:15] <Blacken> gnomefreak: I have. :P
[06:16] <CelloG> k
[06:16] <Blacken> gnomefreak: I use KDE more regularly these days because it's purty. And I don't know nor want to really learn how to make Fluxbox as purty as DSL does.
[06:16] <_Shade_> gnomefreak could you please paste the rss' url?
[06:16] <gnomefreak> Blacken: soon we hope you wont have to :)
[06:16] <gnomefreak> _Shade_: hold on
[06:17] <Blacken> gnomefreak: So do I...an autoconfiguration doohickey is seriously needed.
[06:17] <gnomefreak> Blacken: we might be getting a fluxbox-meta package
[06:17] <Blacken> gnomefreak: Oh?
[06:18] <gnomefreak> _Shade_: http://www.kde.org/dotkdeorg.rdf
[06:18] <asraniel> hi, anybody knows why kopete 0.12.3 is not in the new repository for kde 3.5.5? because its listed in the updates on the official kde homepage
[06:18] <_Shade_> there is a possibility to download kubuntu.rss but it has to be opened in some rss reader i persume
[06:18] <gnomefreak> http://kubuntu.org/kubuntu.rss
[06:18] <_Shade_> gnomefreak ok thanks
[06:18] <CelloG> Blacken: well thanks for trying byebye
[06:18] <root__> hi guys
[06:18] <root__> I\ve got a serious problem
[06:19] <Blacken> _Shade_: You have Akregator on your machine, or should.
[06:19] <samiiir> my harddrive is failing, does anyone know a thing like "scandisk" for Linux
[06:19] <TheGateKeeper> samiiir: badblocks
[06:19] <Blacken> samiiir: badblocks
[06:20] <gnomefreak> Blacken: there is a distro called flubuntu and we are working on making it official and we should see fluxbox-desktop in edgy+1 or edgy+2
[06:20] <TheGateKeeper> Blacken: snap :-)
[06:20] <Blacken> gnomefreak: I know about fluxbuntu. Hence what I said earlier. =)
[06:20] <_Shade_> Blacken not at the moment since i am on a windows machine right now
[06:20] <gnomefreak> _Shade_: he has a good point they are in akregator by default
[06:20] <Blacken> _Shade_: So fix that. :D
[06:21] <samiiir> where can I get badblocks?
[06:21] <_Shade_> Blacken i would like to do so, but it is not mine :)
[06:21] <Blacken> _Shade_: LiveCD? :P
[06:21] <gnomefreak> samiiir: normally from a hd that has bad blocks ;)
[06:21] <gnomefreak> or bad sectors
[06:21] <livingdaylight> flash-nonfree is not in my repos?
[06:21] <TheGateKeeper> samiiir: you should already have it
[06:21] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: its in multiverse
[06:22] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: i have multiverse :s
[06:22] <_Shade_> blacken i dont have one, but stay cool - i'll be back home soon :)
[06:22] <samiiir> how does it work?
[06:22] <ben> Hey people
[06:22] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: open you /etc/apt/sources.list file and add the word multiverse after all llines ending with universe
[06:22] <TheGateKeeper> samiiir: man:badblocks
[06:22] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: unless your on ppc or 64bit you dont have mulitverse enabled or you didnt run update
[06:22] <_Shade_> does anyone know how can i add my own features proposals using launchpad?
[06:23] <gnomefreak> _Shade_: yeah give me a minute
[06:23] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: i had flash-nonfree and tried installing it with Adept, which is when it crashed or whatevr because the acceptance dialog of terms and conditions couldn't e seen in Adept. Hnece ive' also insatlled java now from command line. Java 1.5 further proof that i have multiverse enabled
[06:23] <_Shade_> gnomefreak i find launchpad is a bit complicated in this crowd of links etc. ;)
[06:23] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: no, 32-bit
[06:23] <gnomefreak> _Shade_: may i pm you this info?
[06:24] <_Shade_> gnomefreak sure
[06:24] <gnomefreak> _Shade_: there you go
[06:24] <samiiir> is there no GUI program for a thing like badblocks_
[06:25] <gnomefreak> brb ksmoke
[06:25] <samiiir> is there no GUI program for a thing like badblocks?
[06:25] <TheGateKeeper> samiiir: just run badblocks -v /dev/hda1 <--- or whatever partition you want to test
[06:25] <Blacken> gnomefreak: Bah, you weenie. Real men bashsmoke.
[06:26] <samiiir> will this fix my HD too?
[06:26] <BennyBoi69> Linux ftw
[06:26] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: sorry, sorted. I had the wrong name (flash-nonfree) it is flashplugin-nonfree, and i've installed it now
[06:26] <felixjet> how to extract a tar in console?
[06:26] <felixjet> tar -XXXX file ?
[06:27] <felixjet> i fotgot the XXXX
[06:27] <samiiir> will this fix my HD too?
[06:27] <Blacken> tar xvf
[06:27] <truiu> tar xf file
[06:27] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: you using firefox?
[06:27] <Blacken> Well, xf. But "v" is a habit.
[06:27] <felixjet> thx
[06:27] <samiiir> will this fix my HD too?
[06:27] <gnomefreak> felixjet: xvzf or jxvf
[06:27] <gnomefreak> or any number of the options
[06:28] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: konqueror just now
[06:28] <_Shade_> is there a possibility to launch my (k)ubuntu livecd using an iso image?
[06:28] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: although i use firefox too sometimes, if that is what yu mean?
[06:28] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: also Opera
[06:29] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: ok just spotted what you said earlier
[06:29] <samiiir> will this fix my HD too?
[06:29] <samiiir> will this fix my HD too?
[06:29] <samiiir> will this fix my HD too?
[06:29] <samiiir> will this fix my HD too?
[06:29] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: can you tell me differne between java jre and bin and java plgin?
[06:29] <Blacken> samiiir: Cut out the bloody flooding.
[06:29] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: what did you want to say?
[06:29] <Blacken> samiiir: If you want to know how something works, read the man page.
[06:30] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: i was confused 'coz there seems tobe a variety of java installs.And i don't know if they conflict, so i wanted to make sure i had the right one or best one for me installed
[06:30] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: i chose java-jre 1.5 in the end :s
[06:31] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: ahhh good choice
[06:31] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: but i'm not sure what the difference is from teh other 1.5's like java-plugin and java-bin
[06:31] <_Shade_> i'd like to install edgy beta on my machine. The problem is all my drives are broken or simply doesnt boot from these cds. Can i boot it using an iso image on different partition?
[06:31] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: after the latest update firefox downloaded flash & installed it for me
[06:32] <samiiir> can badblocks fix my HD or can't it_
[06:32] <physicsnick> ls
[06:32] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: I gues java-bin will be the runtime & the plugin will be exactly that
[06:32] <physicsnick> whoops
[06:32] <physicsnick> this isn't a terminal at all
[06:33] <Dr_willis> samiiir,  it MIGHT.. but   i would suggest buying a new hd and backing up to it.. asap
[06:33] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: can one install 'em all?
[06:34] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: not sure I think you have installed the right thing for everything to work
[06:34] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: ok, thx, i worry too much  :)
[06:34] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: wait untill you get a problem, then fix it :-)
[06:34] <livingdaylight> hahaha
[06:34] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: np :-)
[06:35] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: like someone said: " I love Linux coz when something breaks, i can spend hours fixing it"
[06:35] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: :-)
[06:36] <slow-motion> re
[06:36] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: you can if you trash your gentoo system, with no backup
[06:36] <slow-motion> re
[06:37] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: lol, no thx. I leave that to the pros
[06:37] <samiiir> MY NAME IS SAMIR
[06:37] <samiiir> I AM GANGSTER KING I ARABIA
[06:37] <samiiir> I AM GANGSTER KING I ARABIA
[06:37] <samiiir> I AM GANGSTER KING I ARABIA
[06:37] <samiiir> I AM GANGSTER KING I ARABIA
[06:37] <samiiir> I AM GANGSTER KING I ARABIA
[06:37] <samiiir> I AM GANGSTER KING I ARABIA
[06:37] <samiiir> I AM GANGSTER KING I ARABIA
[06:37] <samiiir> I AM GANGSTER KING I ARABIA
[06:37] <livingdaylight> lol
[06:37] <samiiir> GET YOU GET ME I AM ARABIC GANGSTER KING
[06:37] <CVirus> WTF ?
[06:38] <livingdaylight> samiiir: you aint gonna last very long here, lol
[06:38] <samiiir> >(((9(((((((((((((((((
[06:38] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: apart from the odd update that slips through, (k)ubuntu seems to be rock solid
[06:38] <samiiir> memtest told me that I had like everything it scanned faulty
[06:38] <CVirus> samiiir: I'm an Arab too .. but whats with it ?
[06:38] <samiiir> now badblocks say
[06:38] <nebi> help me please, i can install driver for usb wifi dlink dwl-g122 c1
[06:39] <Electrolyte> lol fdoving :)
[06:39] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: Well, this is my first install of Kubuntu, and i'm liking it ALOT. But Synaptic is a better front end to APT than Adept. And i got a bit of a scare backthere trying to install non-free apps with Adept as it froze
[06:40] <TheGateKeeper> fdoving: well I was going to suggest running a book on how long samiiir would last :-)
[06:40] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: install synaptic then, that's what I use :-)
[06:40] <fdoving> TheGateKeeper: :)
[06:42] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: OHHH....can you?! wow, thx for telling me that
[06:42] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: apt-get install synaptic <--- job done
[06:42] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: now, i'm liking Kubuntu yet more!
[06:43] <livingdaylight> fdoving: why didn't you tell me ;0
[06:43] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: I think if you do apt-get apititude install <package> then I think it is possible to remove all the dependencies if you decide to unistall it
[06:44] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: did they seriously think it would be fun to watch people try installing java and flash from Adept and watch their PM freeze?
[06:44] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: I just don't like adept, & don't really use
[06:44] <TheGateKeeper> it
[06:44] <livingdaylight> Kubuntu should come with an install warning
[06:45] <fdoving> livingdaylight: adept is a pretty new project, not very mature yet. alot is under construction.
[06:45] <Digital_Pioneer> Hi. I'm trying to get internet on my new Kubuntu installation using a Windows XP driver on NdisWrapper.
[06:45] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: what's the deal, you then end up with two PM's? or does Synaptic replace Adept?
[06:45] <jdawiz> anyone have a suggestion for me.  I installed edgy beta on a laptop and my only connection is wireless.  My wireless usb worked out of the box in Dapper.  Now it is recognised when I run lusb but isn't recognised in the network setup no wireless assistant.  I figured there is probably an update online that would help me but again my only connection at this point is the wi/fi usb
[06:45] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: Adept & synaptic are just GUI's for apt-get
[06:46] <livingdaylight> fdoving: but why not just improve Synaptic? Why recreate the wheel? resources could go elsewhere, no?
[06:46] <Digital_Pioneer> Something is going wrong though. My WLAN adapter doesn't seem to be receiving commands.
[06:46] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: aware of that ;)
[06:46] <fdoving> livingdaylight: because synaptic is gnome-ish and based on another toolkit (gtk), KDE and Kubuntu is QT
[06:46] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: the feature i like in Adept is managing repos by right-clicking and enabling/disabling
[06:47] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: I just use an editor
[06:47] <livingdaylight> fdoving: but Synaptic can be installed in kubuntu anyway, so what is the deal? Besides gtk and QT toolkits are moving more and more towards integration i read
[06:48] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home  <--- something I have thrown together
[06:48] <Digital_Pioneer> No-one cares to help the poor n00b with his internet?
[06:48] <TheGateKeeper> !patience
[06:48] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:49] <Digital_Pioneer> TheGateKeeper, I don't want to be pushy, but this channel is busy. If someone _could_ and _would_ help me, chances are they'd never find my request.
[06:50] <fdoving> Digital_Pioneer: ask a question, give error messages, 'something is going wrong' doesn't give much information on anything.
[06:50] <nebi> que programa es ese?
[06:50] <TheGateKeeper> Digital_Pioneer: well I have not yet installed wireless on linux yet, so I can't help you
[06:50] <fdoving> !es > nebi
[06:50] <Digital_Pioneer> fdoving, OK, you tell me where to find error messages. :)
[06:50] <livingdaylight> fdoving:
[06:50] <fdoving> Digital_Pioneer: what is your problem?
[06:51] <Digital_Pioneer> fdoving, iwconfig says my access point is invalid, and nothing seems to be accessing my WLAN adapter.
[06:51] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: good! I would make the fonts bigger by default. They showed up small here But nice infor :)
[06:51] <Digital_Pioneer> It's a Netgear WG111v2 USB wireless adapter. :)
[06:51] <Digital_Pioneer> NdisWrapper says driver installed hardware installed.
[06:51] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: http://avi.alkalay.net/linux/docs/font-howto/Font.html#intro
[06:52] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: ohhh I just misunderstood what you said :-)
[06:53] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: I just used the default settings
[06:53] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: but thx anyways!
[06:53] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: i'm glad i bumped into you
[06:53] <fdoving> Digital_Pioneer:
[06:53] <fdoving> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212365
[06:53] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: well we all try to help each other :-)
[06:53] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: yea, default is almost always usually too samll
[06:53] <livingdaylight> true
[06:54] <livingdaylight> I used to find that especially in kde
[06:54] <Digital_Pioneer> fdoving, OK, Thanks.
[06:55] <livingdaylight> TheGateKeeper: SuSE 9.1 was my first Linux os, and after Windows i couldn't believe the default settings - everything was tiny! but at least everything was configurable too ;)
[06:55] <TheGateKeeper> livingdaylight: :-)
[06:55] <TheGateKeeper> right food, back latter...
[07:01] <livingdaylight> http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/desktop-tips.html#kde-startup says session manager is on the left of 'user account' in system settings. but where? i don't see my session manager? Has session manager been moved since the writing of the documentation i'm reading?
[07:04] <fdoving> livingdaylight: try the advanced tab, might be there.
[07:06] <livingdaylight> fdoving: strange i only have 'Password&User Account' and 'Path' tabs on the left of my 'User Account' in System Settings
[07:06] <menace82> hello... i'am using kubuntu 6.10 and i have 2 soundcards ( 1 onboard and 1 sblive). my problem is that i want to use sblive for music, dvds etc and the onboard for voip. The system has as default the onboard. How can i use the sblive as the system default sound card?
[07:07] <fdoving> livingdaylight: do you have a button named 'advanced' at the very top of system settings?
[07:07] <ricanelite> I need major help!!!
[07:07] <fdoving> !ask
[07:07] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:07] <ricanelite> okay sorry!
[07:07] <Skrot> menace82: Good question. You might want to try #alsa if nobody knows
[07:07] <livingdaylight> fdoving: nope :(
[07:07] <fdoving> saves you some time, if it's so urgent.
[07:07] <Hawkwind> menace82: Disable the onboard card in your BIOS, then boot the machine
[07:08] <menace82> Hawkwind: i want the onboard soundcard
[07:08] <Hawkwind> menace82: Why do you want to use both ?
[07:08] <menace82> Hawkwind: because i want a second sc for voip
[07:08] <ricanelite> I try to open up Add/Remove Application and I get a Message saying Failed to Check Installed and available applications "Check the Permissions and corrections of the '/etc/apt/sources.list' now I dont know anything about this so please help
[07:09] <livingdaylight> ricanelite: you don't have to ask. If you have to go to the loo, just go! :)
[07:09] <Hawkwind> menace82: I've never dealt with 2 soundcards.  My SBLive does multiple channel so I can hear more than one app make sounds at a time
[07:09] <ricanelite> I'm a complete Linux Newbie and getting upset, cause every where I turn nothing turns out good for me right now
[07:09] <hyper> hello abattoir
[07:10] <hyper> hello trappist
[07:10] <menace82> Hawkwind: i have connected the sblive to my 5.1 speaker system and the onboard to a headset
[07:10] <ricanelite> I'm using a KDE Desktop if that will help!
[07:10] <hyper> rican: what do you try to accomplish'
[07:10] <hyper> ?
[07:10] <livingdaylight> ricanelite: sounds to me like what it could possibly be is that you want to install stuff that is not there. Have you updated your repositories?
[07:10] <ricanelite> I dont know how
[07:11] <fdoving> ricanelite: try to open a konsole (kmenu -> system -> konsole) and run 'kdesu adept'
[07:12] <fdoving> ricanelite: does that work?
[07:13] <ricanelite> It says APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem, Try running apt-setup and agt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem
[07:13] <fdoving> ricanelite: ok, in the console try to run 'sudo apt-get update'
[07:13] <livingdaylight> ricanelite: have yo unot noticed in teh menu tray an update ! in red?
[07:14] <ricanelite> theres nothing there
[07:14] <livingdaylight> ricanelite: did you try what fdoving suggested?
[07:15] <livingdaylight> ricanelite: have you just installed Kubuntu?
[07:16] <livingdaylight> ricanelite: ?
[07:16] <ricanelite> this is what I get E: Type '$wget' ius not known on line 37 in source list /etc/apt/source.list
[07:17] <ricanelite> That is the error message I get
[07:17] <fdoving> !source-o-matic
[07:17] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:17] <fdoving> ricanelite: go there ^^
[07:17] <fdoving> ricanelite: and replace your sources.list with the new you generate there.
[07:17] <livingdaylight> ricanelite: http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html follow this documentation closely. I'm a noob too. but i found this easy to follow. LIke a recipie. It'll tell you how to add reposto APT of which Adept is the gui(=graphical)frontend
[07:18] <zorglu_> the personn which does something to easy add/remove the sources in sources.list will be appreciated :)
[07:18] <BennyBoi69> How do i install irissi?
[07:18] <zorglu_> !info irissi
[07:18] <ubotu> Package irissi does not exist in any distro I know
[07:18] <fdoving> zorglu_: it's a feature of adept.
[07:18] <ricanelite> oh boy im confuse, lol
[07:18] <fdoving> might not be easy enought,as you need to write.
[07:18] <BennyBoi69> irssi*
[07:19] <fdoving> ricanelite: don't be. :)
[07:19] <livingdaylight> fdoving: replace?!!! and Dr_willis told me to add it, geezus. My repos must be a mess
[07:19] <fdoving> livingdaylight: what did you add?
[07:19] <BennyBoi69> how do i install irssi?
[07:19] <zorglu_> fdoving: yep :) in fact as we can count the amount of problem reported here
[07:19] <LjL> BennyBoi69: "sudo apt-get install irssi"
[07:19] <zorglu_> !info irssi
[07:19] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install irssi
[07:19] <Dr_willis> !Info irssi
[07:19] <ubotu> irssi: terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.10-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 989 kB, installed size 2764 kB
[07:19] <livingdaylight> fdoving: what i made up in srouce-o-matic
[07:19] <fdoving> livingdaylight: before doing anything else, you can post the contents of your sources.list file to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org i'll look at it and tell you whats wrong-
[07:19] <livingdaylight> ricanelite: talk to me. Whats the problem?
[07:20] <livingdaylight> fdoving: thx man
[07:20] <BennyBoi69> Where i type that?
[07:20] <BennyBoi69> in terminal?
[07:20] <LjL> BennyBoi69: yes
[07:20] <Hawkwind> BennyBoi69: Yes
[07:20] <fdoving> ricanelite: i can do the same for you, if you post the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:20] <LjL> Dr_willis: on a keyboard?
[07:20] <Dr_willis> alt-f2 i guess.. but thats just a mini-terminal :P
[07:21] <BennyBoi69> ok
[07:21] <BennyBoi69> i did it
[07:21] <Hawkwind> Dr_willis: In an editor, in your current irc client :P
[07:21] <Dr_willis> LjL,   bah! use the ESP-Module!
[07:21] <BennyBoi69> now where can i find it... :S?
[07:21] <Hawkwind> BennyBoi69: Type: irssi in a terminal
[07:21] <LjL> BennyBoi69: type "irssi"
[07:21] <Dr_willis> BennyBoi69,  now would be a GOOD time to go to the IRSSI homepage and read the docs.
[07:21] <livingdaylight> fdoving: here is output of my sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26324/
[07:21] <fdoving> livingdaylight: ok.
[07:22] <BennyBoi69> oki
[07:22] <BennyBoi69> All good :)
[07:22] <Digital_Pioneer> fdoving, Didn't fix it. :(
[07:22] <fdoving> livingdaylight: doesn't this sources.list work?
[07:22] <zorglu_> BennyBoi69: just in case you dont know yet, konversation is a gui irc client http://konversation.kde.org it is a lot more integrated in kde and may worth a try
[07:22] <livingdaylight> fdoving: you can see halfway down. The sources-o-matic list added on (tagged on the end)
[07:23] <fdoving> Digital_Pioneer: what didn't work? (can't remember your problem.)
[07:23] <arepie> i've installed my fglrx ati driver, but, why does my OpenGL is still mesa?
[07:23] <fdoving> livingdaylight: yes, they seem correct. do you get error messages?
[07:23] <Digital_Pioneer> fdoving, I can't get my WLAN adapter to work.
[07:23] <livingdaylight> fdoving:it appears to sofar...:) i just wondered since you said replace and i added on, that i might have done it wrong
[07:23] <fdoving> Digital_Pioneer: ah..
[07:23] <livingdaylight> fdoving: again, not so far
[07:23] <Digital_Pioneer> fdoving, You sent me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212365
[07:23] <livingdaylight> fdoving: if it ain't broke don't fix it?
[07:24] <Hawkwind> If it ain't broke, tweak it!
[07:24] <livingdaylight> Hawkwind: :)
[07:24] <fdoving> livingdaylight: can you open konsole (kmenu -> system -> konsole) run 'sudo apt-get update' and post the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ?
[07:24] <Dr_willis> If it aint Broke.. my wife hasent gotten a hold of it yet.
[07:24] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:25] <DjDarkman> hy ,can someone tell me how can I limit my bandiwdth usage?
[07:25] <ricanelite> fdoving i sent it
[07:25] <livingdaylight> fdoving: ok, man. But i love Yakuake, so, i'll go there and do it ;)
[07:25] <ricanelite> How can I register here so I could send messages to you guys
[07:25] <fdoving> ricanelite: can you give me the resulting URL?
[07:25] <fdoving> DjDarkman: how do you want to limit it?
[07:25] <ricanelite> what you mean?
[07:25] <fdoving> !register
[07:25] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:25] <fdoving> ricanelite: ^^
[07:26] <ellen> is someone there
[07:26] <DjDarkman> fdoving: I have a home network of 3 computers ,one has internet access
[07:26] <fdoving> ricanelite: when you posted the contents to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org you got a address, what is  the address to the post?
[07:26] <DjDarkman> fdoving: if I start downloading too fast they all lag
[07:26] <DjDarkman> but sadly I can`t control the speed of my downloads
[07:27] <fdoving> DjDarkman: get wondershaper, it's easy to use and it works.
[07:27] <fdoving> !wondershaper
[07:27] <ubotu> wondershaper: Easy to use traffic shaping script. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1a-4 (dapper), package size 13 kB, installed size 80 kB
[07:27] <ricanelite> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26327/
[07:27] <fdoving> DjDarkman: ^^ - it's in the universere pository.
[07:27] <arepie> i've installed my fglrx ati driver, but, why does my OpenGL is still mesa?
[07:27] <fdoving> ricanelite: thanks.
[07:27] <DjDarkman> ok I`ll try it
[07:27] <ricanelite> okay, so what are you going to do?
[07:27] <ricanelite> fix it?
[07:27] <ricanelite> lol
[07:28] <fdoving> ricanelite: remove the last line.
[07:28] <arkady> ricanelite: you have to delete the 37th line
[07:28] <fdoving> ricanelite: are you on Breezy?
[07:28] <livingdaylight> fdoving: outcome of apt-get update: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26328/ GPG errors at the end
[07:28] <ricanelite> Im not sure, all I know is i updated the lastest Version of Ubuntu and on the KDE Desktop
[07:28] <ricanelite> lol
[07:28] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  that most likely means you ont have the keys imported for that repository
[07:29] <fdoving> livingdaylight: ah.. run the commands in the comments of your sources.list to get rid of them.
[07:29] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis: yes, and how is that done. Or why is that not done automatically?
[07:29] <Dr_willis> The  sourceslist gives docs on how to import the keys.. its not a Critical error. its a warning.
[07:29] <fdoving> livingdaylight: and you can also remove the ftp.free.fr lines.
[07:29] <Dr_willis> !apt-get
[07:29] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:30] <livingdaylight> fdoving: run the commands of my sources.list, hmmm....:s
[07:30] <ricanelite> Yeah I register my name!!!
[07:31] <fdoving> ricanelite: please take support specific questions here, others can learn, and benefit from the answer.
[07:32] <ricanelite> Oh okay
[07:32] <ricanelite> I'm sorry
[07:32] <ubuntu_> Hi out there!
[07:32] <ricanelite> how can I find out if I'm using Breezy or not?
[07:32] <fdoving> ricanelite: run 'lsb_release -a'
[07:32] <JanHolbo> sorry changed my nick :)
[07:32] <Hawkwind> ricanelite: lsb_release
[07:33] <Hawkwind> ricanelite: lsb_release -a
[07:33] <Dr_willis> cat /etc/lsb-release
[07:33] <ricanelite> Alt-F2 right? for run command?
[07:33] <fdoving> ricanelite: in konsole, preferably.
[07:33] <Hawkwind> No need to use cat and an extra command :P
[07:33] <Dr_willis> unless of coyrse you dont want to see the output. :)
[07:34] <Dr_willis> Hawkwind,  Blasphmy! the True Linux-haxor-white-and-nerdy-guy always uses cat!
[07:34] <zorglu_> no, it use only dd
[07:34] <Hawkwind> Dr_willis: cat is greatly over used almost all the time
[07:34] <livingdaylight> fdoving: can you explain more whaqt you mean by 'run the commands in teh comments? here's my sources.list again. Maybe you can point to the #line and what i have to do to jumpstart me : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26324/
[07:34] <Dr_willis>  lsb_release -a | kmessenge `somthign with backticks and cat and perl/awk`
[07:34] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:34] <ricanelite> okay it says Distributor ID:Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS  Release: 6.06  Codename: Dapper
[07:34] <Hawkwind> Hah
[07:35] <JanHolbo> how do I make a dd of a harddrive and compress it in one go? it needs to go to an NFS mount and just the raw dd takes forever ....   can I get gzip or bzip to accept input from stdin?
[07:35] <fdoving> JanHolbo: use partimage
[07:35] <fdoving> !partimage
[07:35] <ubotu> partimage: backup partitions into a compressed image file. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-14 (dapper), package size 261 kB, installed size 936 kB
[07:35] <JanHolbo> is it on the ubuntu livecd?
[07:35] <BennyBoi69> on gaim, Is there a way to turn sounds off, without me having to do it all the time?
[07:35] <fdoving> ricanelite: ok, good, then you use dapper, and then you're up2date. :)
[07:35] <ricanelite> okay
[07:36] <ricanelite> well do I need to still take out line #37?
[07:36] <JanHolbo> fdoving: is it on the ubuntu livecd?
[07:36] <ricanelite> how can I do that?
[07:36] <Dr_willis> fire up a text editor.. and delet the line
[07:36] <livingdaylight> fdoving: teh ftp lines you refer to are PLF, yes? don't i want to keep that?
[07:36] <fdoving> JanHolbo: not sure.
[07:36] <fdoving> bbl.
[07:37] <arkady> ricanelite: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list -> delete line 37 -> save
[07:38] <arkady> livingdaylight: have you imported Riddel's key for kubuntu's repository?
[07:38] <ricanelite> do that in Konsole?
[07:38] <LjL> ricanelite: yes
[07:38] <intelikey> arkady wyh not have him enable universe while he's there ?
[07:38] <livingdaylight> arkady: dunno
[07:38] <livingdaylight> arkady: i donlt know how to import keys
[07:38] <JanHolbo> fdoving: its not there ....  but thanks anyways :)
[07:39] <arkady> livingdaylight:  wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[07:39] <arkady> livingdaylight:  sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[07:39] <ricanelite> I will even delete the $wget right?
[07:39] <arkady> ricanelite: yes, delete that line
[07:40] <ricanelite> save it
[07:40] <ricanelite> ??
[07:40] <mwolff> hello there
[07:40] <ricanelite> my hands are sweaty, lol
[07:40] <arkady> ricanelite: yes, save it
[07:40] <ricanelite> do i need to restart my machine?
[07:40] <intelikey> no
[07:40] <ricanelite> okay
[07:40] <arkady> ricanelite: nope
[07:41] <mwolff> uuhm, I'm pretty sure this has been asked a thousand times this evening already, but... could it be that the 3.5.5 update is borked?
[07:41] <zorglu_> ricanelite: but do 'sudo apt-get update' to keep your local cache in sync
[07:41] <intelikey> only time you "need" to restart/reboot  is if you want to run a different OS/kernel
[07:42] <mwolff> on updating to 3.5.5 I'm getting tons of errors like this one:
[07:42] <mwolff> CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[07:42] <ricanelite> wait i type in the Konsole sudo apt-get update ?
[07:42] <mwolff> should I be worried?
[07:43] <livingdaylight> arkady: part of the message: gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
[07:43] <ricanelite> okay perfect nevermind it worked
[07:43] <DjDarkman> thanks fdoving this tool is cool
[07:43] <livingdaylight> arkady: did it work?
[07:43] <ricanelite> okay are you all ready for another problem I'm having??
[07:43] <ricanelite> lol
[07:43] <ricanelite> you guys are going to be happy when I'm gone
[07:44] <ricanelite> you see everyone is leaving now
[07:44] <ricanelite> lol
[07:44] <livingdaylight> ricanelite: is life feeling better now?
[07:44] <ricanelite> yeah it is!
[07:44] <ricanelite> but i have a couple of more problems
[07:44] <livingdaylight> ricanelite: you see
[07:44] <ricanelite> lol
[07:44] <livingdaylight> arkady: how can i test your solution?
[07:45] <ricanelite> how can I remove wine and reinstall it again
[07:45] <intelikey> !wine
[07:45] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:45] <ricanelite> okay i will check that
[07:45] <intelikey> !info wine
[07:45] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[07:45] <intelikey> it's in the  universe repo
[07:46] <ricanelite> okay
[07:46] <intelikey> you will have to enable universe
[07:46] <ricanelite> how you do that?
[07:46] <zorglu_> !universe
[07:46] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:46] <livingdaylight> ricanelite: why not open Adept - look for wine - uninstall?
[07:46] <livingdaylight> arkady: you there?
[07:47] <ricanelite> did'nt know that, just started using Ubuntu last night, lol
[07:47] <ricanelite> all I have to say is thank god to you all and this IRC chat!!!
[07:47] <livingdaylight> Ditto
[07:49] <ricanelite> alright got that removed
[07:51] <ricanelite> now, this is the most important thing I'm trying to get working right now, in my job we use Windows XP and we use a Application that is .jnlp file which requires us to use the lastest Java
[07:51] <felix_e> riddell: would you mind updating the kde-latest / kde-stable symlinks? thanks.
[07:52] <ricanelite> Now, dont ask me how I installed it and it loads up and when it says Starting Application it disappears. And nothing happens
[07:52] <ricanelite> When I go to Internet>Sun Java 5.0 it is listed there and when I say Launch Application it starts to load up and then disppears.
[07:53] <ricanelite> does anyone have any ideas?
[07:53] <Dr_willis> what are you expecting to see?
[07:53] <ricanelite> a Window that looks like a Web Browser
[07:53] <Dr_willis> I see a Sun Java Web Start
[07:53] <ricanelite> Well the Sun Java Web Star works
[07:53] <Dr_willis> and it launched a little applicatopon launcher list
[07:54] <ricanelite> its just the Application I'm trying to run
[07:54] <sorush20> isn't it gay the way you still have to setup repositories manually,,,, bye
[07:54] <ricanelite> I wish I could send you the file and you could see what I mean
[07:54] <Dr_willis> i dont see no Java 5.0 icon,
[07:54] <livingdaylight> ricanelite: are you installing java from Adept?
[07:55] <TheGateKeeper> ricanelite: use pastebin
[07:55] <ricanelite> well java been installed
[07:55] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. Nifty that all the Java web start appls ive downloaded are in that list. :)
[07:55] <TheGateKeeper> !pastebin
[07:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:55] <Dr_willis> try
[07:55] <ricanelite> Well yeah and my Application we use here at work is in the Download Area but it does not fully start up
[07:55] <Dr_willis> java -version
[07:55] <Dr_willis> and see which java is the default
[07:57] <ricanelite> java version 1.4.2
[07:59] <ibert> hi! I've got problems configuring upslug2. The error message is "configure.ac: 8: required file `./[config.h] .in' not found" but the file is here. What am I missing?
[07:59] <zorglu_> with [ ]  ?
[08:02] <ibert> zorglu_: no - the file is without [] 
[08:02] <intelikey> !java > ricanelite
[08:06] <livingdaylight> I take Kubuntu doesn't use Nautilus. Is Konqueror the file manager?
[08:06] <fdoving> yes.
[08:06] <lnxkde> livingdaylight: yep
[08:06] <livingdaylight> thx, guys
[08:06] <lnxkde> konqueror rocks :)
[08:07] <lnxkde> livingdaylight: new to linux or just to KDE?
[08:07] <livingdaylight> I wanna confess at this stage by admitting that Kubuntu is better than Ubuntu. I just don't like the obsession with the 'K's'
[08:08] <intelikey> livingdaylight konqueror is the kde file/web browser  nautilus is the 'nome file manager  tunner is the xfce file manager  gentoo is a file manager that will run in any of them but you wont like it.  :)
[08:08] <livingdaylight> lnxkde: been using Ubuntu for about 4 years, BUt today i broke my Kubuntu virginity
[08:08] <lnxkde> livingdaylight: hehe is not better :) ubuntu is flavor and kubuntu is another ;)  live vanilla and strabery :)
[08:08] <lnxkde> Kubuntu is my favorite :)
[08:09] <zorglu_> 4years?
[08:09] <ibert> I need not to compile it, I've found an .deb file.
[08:09] <lnxkde> livingdaylight: kde.org
[08:09] <livingdaylight> lnxkde: just my opinion based on experience. But you're right. just different. I still love Gnome's elegance and simplicity. But i really love being able to assing a different background per workspace - something you can't do in Gnome for example
[08:10] <lnxkde> livingdaylight: u have been using ubuntu for 4 years?
[08:11] <zorglu_> impressive :) as ubuntu is only 2 years old :)
[08:11] <intelikey> wasn't it called debian before that ?
[08:11] <livingdaylight> lnxkde: yea, about that :)
[08:11] <intelikey> :)
[08:11] <lnxkde> lol
[08:12] <livingdaylight> really?
[08:12] <lnxkde> yep...
[08:12] <intelikey> really
[08:12] <lnxkde> ubuntu is new
[08:12] <lnxkde> hehehe
[08:12] <livingdaylight> well i started with SuSE 9.1 when was that?
[08:12] <lnxkde> ok that was long ago
[08:12] <v3ctor> i started with redhat 6.2
[08:13] <lnxkde> when the dinasaurs still were in the planet.
[08:13] <intelikey> 9.1  not so long ago
[08:13] <lnxkde> :p
[08:13] <livingdaylight> and although i was grateful i was frought with dependency hell
[08:13] <lnxkde> I started with mandrake 7.2 back in december of 2000
[08:13] <livingdaylight> then i discovered Ubuntu about hoary aguess, but you're saying it was only 2 years ago, so....lol
[08:13] <livingdaylight> feels longer
[08:13] <intelikey> i'd have to check the versioning  but i think SuSE 9 was about 03
[08:14] <intelikey> 9.1
[08:14] <lnxkde> distrowatch.com time. :)
[08:14] <livingdaylight> lnxkde: Ok, so i been using LInux for about 4/5 years but Ubuntu since whenever that started. Please believe me ? :)
[08:14] <lnxkde> livingdaylight: that does not matter the important thing is that you have discovered the power of KDE and Kubuntu ;)
[08:14] <intelikey> livingdaylight nope your credability is already shot
[08:15] <livingdaylight> hehe
[08:15] <intelikey> :)
[08:15] <lnxkde> btw: guys KDE 3.5.5 is out who else is updating?
[08:15] <intelikey> lnxkde not me
[08:15] <livingdaylight> thx arkady
[08:15] <risen> hrmm...
[08:15] <lnxkde> bye arkady
[08:16] <lnxkde> intelikey: why?
[08:16] <mikki> hi, need some help with xgl on ubuntu with ati, i have installed it but it dosnt seem to work
[08:16] <intelikey> ah cause i don't even have kde installed....
[08:16] <lnxkde> intelikey: &%#^&$#&@
[08:17] <lnxkde> mikki: whats the problem?
[08:17] <intelikey> risen what issues ?
[08:18] <mikki> i have followed this tutorial second section: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=245152
[08:18] <risen> oh just with installing and using software.. i can't seem to get frostwire to load up and run
[08:18] <intelikey> lnxkde you sure you want to do that to people that don't even like X   (console users)  ?
[08:18] <intelikey> :)
[08:18] <risen> nore can i get anything else that i've tried to instal to run after it's been installed
[08:18] <mikki> and logged in with xgl, and nothing is different exept everthing is slow
[08:18] <lnxkde> intelikey: u use console only?
[08:18] <Mayko> hallo, i need some help on change the kdm theme on comand line, anyone know how?
[08:19] <intelikey> lnxkde yeah
[08:19] <lnxkde> mikki you started compiz or beryl?
[08:19] <lnxkde> intelikey:  nice
[08:19] <lnxkde> :)
[08:19] <livingdaylight> why could i be getting /mnt busy when i do umount /mnt?
[08:19] <mikki> dont think so, dont know how
[08:19] <intelikey> risen did you follow the wiki on frostwire ?
[08:19] <lnxkde> mikki that is all
[08:19] <intelikey> !frostwire
[08:19] <risen> yep
[08:19] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[08:19] <lnxkde> did you install compiz or beryl?
[08:20] <rafa> wnas
[08:20] <fdoving> livingdaylight: because you've got it open somewhere. a filemanager or you might be cd'ed into it in konsole. you can use 'umount -l /mnt' if you want to do it the 'lazy' way :)
[08:20] <mikki> i have installed it i think
[08:20] <mikki> how do i start it ?
[08:20] <mikki> compiz
[08:20] <intelikey> risen hmmm you get any error messages ?   try starting it from konsole and see if it gives errors ?
[08:20] <risen> it's installed right... but.... when i go to run it.. NOTHING happens.. i know i have the newest java runtimes installed and operational.... but still nothing happens
[08:20] <Mayko> i'am use the kdm themes in KDE 3.5.4
[08:20] <rafa> my name is rafa...
[08:20] <rafa> hi!
[08:21] <intelikey> !cli
[08:21] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:21] <Mayko> and i'am are build one script for change that, but i stop in this question
[08:21] <lnxkde> mikki : u should install beryl
[08:21] <livingdaylight> fdoving: how do i cd out  - i've shut everything else off that i can see?
[08:22] <risen> i know it is.. but i haven't had the time to learn it yet....
[08:22] <intelikey> risen some good info found there   ^
[08:22] <rafa> can you speak spanish?....I need support
[08:22] <mikki> ok, from adept ?
[08:22] <zorglu_> !es
[08:22] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:22] <lnxkde> yep
[08:22] <fdoving> livingdaylight: you can use 'fuser -vmik /mnt' or something like that. (not 100% sure.. you can try).
[08:22] <rafa> thanks
[08:23] <felixjet> whats the parameter on tar to overwrite files?
[08:23] <lnxkde> mikki as soon you got all the beryl packages intalled run start-beryl-manager
[08:23] <mikki> i have beryl-core
[08:23] <felixjet> --overwrite?
[08:23] <azzco> I'm trying to get flash to work in konqueror... I went to the plugins section and scanned. it found someting in /usr/lib/mozilla libflashplayer.so I think it was called and that should be right but I still can't use flash in konq
[08:24] <risen> i see that.. but i don't see how to navigate through the directories on there.. i'm only seeing how to look at the current directory.. ?
[08:24] <livingdaylight> fdoving: umount -l /mnt seems to have done it. What did the -l arguement do that umount /mnt coulndn't do on it s own?
[08:25] <livingdaylight> risen: no, I am the n00b
[08:25] <livingdaylight> Will the real n00b please stand?
[08:25] <livingdaylight> My name is Spartacus!
[08:26] <livingdaylight> hehe
[08:26] <Ash-Fox> !ati
[08:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:26] <dreamers> Hi Guys. Im a new linux user and testing Kubuntu for the first time. I have managed to get my wireless to work, but im not sure how i connect to my workgroup and my other PC's, Could anyone please help me?
[08:27] <AbortD> what os do they run?
[08:27] <dreamers> kubuntu
[08:27] <AbortD> all of the computers?
[08:27] <AbortD> what kind of programs?
[08:27] <dreamers> no.. the other are windows machines
[08:27] <zorglu_> !samba
[08:27] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:27] <ricanelite> I still cant get this Main.jnlp file to open
[08:27] <AbortD> i dont think you can dreamers
[08:27] <AbortD> i dunno though
[08:28] <AbortD> oh nm
[08:28] <zorglu_> dreamers: look at the above link
[08:28] <AbortD> samva
[08:28] <AbortD> samba
[08:28] <AbortD> im so damn tired
[08:28] <mikki> i got beryl now, and have started it, what now
[08:29] <dreamers> Thank you for the link. I will have a look at it. Thnx for the help guys. =)
[08:29] <intelikey> ricanelite konsole  jre main.jnlp    does it show any errors ?
[08:29] <mikki> lnxkde: got beryl
[08:31] <ricanelite> it says command not found
[08:31] <soulrider> hi everyone
[08:31] <ricanelite> i type it in the Konsole right
[08:32] <intelikey> jre: command not found  or   bash: command not found ?
[08:32] <intelikey> right
[08:32] <ricanelite> bah: jre: command not found
[08:32] <mikki> !xgl
[08:32] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:33] <intelikey> ricanelite you know i don't do java  but that looks like you need to work on the installation of java
[08:33] <intelikey> shouldn't jre be a command in the path  (someone that does java?) ???
[08:34] <ricanelite> well i installed everything correctly from Java, like i said before it runs but when the Application is about to stop it does nothing else but disappear
[08:34] <intelikey> !java
[08:34] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[08:34] <dreamers> A quick question. What does the "sudo" command do
[08:34] <dreamers> ?
[08:34] <intelikey> !sudo
[08:34] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:34] <ricanelite> I wish I could send you the file so you could see what i mean
[08:34] <intelikey> the full answer dreamers ^
[08:34] <ricanelite> or with my luck it will run perfect
[08:35] <TheGateKeeper> dreamers: give you admin privalages for that command
[08:35] <dreamers> Thnx guys =)
[08:35] <intelikey> sudo==super user do
[08:36] <intelikey> dreamers generally any command has a man page.    man man
[08:37] <intelikey> the first section of the man page is the discription
[08:37] <fdoving> you can also use 'man -k word' to search for manpages.
[08:38] <dreamers> Im realy new at Linux so I might ask really stupid questions. like what is man?
[08:38] <intelikey> man -a <blah> for all man pages on <blah>   but that's all covered in  man man
[08:39] <intelikey> what is man?      that question has been asked many millions of times....
[08:39] <intelikey> over centuries
[08:39] <dreamers> Hehe.. =)
[08:39] <livingdaylight> are people also installing nvidia-glx-dev? or is nvidia-glx sufficient?
[08:40] <intelikey> livingdaylight if you plan on compiling 3d things install the dev
[08:40] <lipe_pe> how can i add a pass to cups ...
[08:40] <intelikey> !ati > livingdaylight
[08:40] <lipe_pe> how can i add a pass to cups ... please
[08:40] <dreamers> Ahhh I get it now. I have to run it on the console... nice.. thnx for the info.. Will use it a lot now =)
[08:41] <livingdaylight> intelikey: what does compiling entail? will i need it to enable 3d effects and potentially XGL/Compiz?
[08:41] <intelikey> dreamers you're welcome
[08:41] <bbeck_> Does anyone know if/how I can use Kopete to chat with people using zeroconf and iChat?
[08:41] <intelikey> livingdaylight compiling means building the software from the source code
[08:41] <livingdaylight> intelikey: i've got agp nvidia 6600GT
[08:42] <livingdaylight> intelikey: ok, no, doesn't  sound like me ^^
[08:42] <intelikey> livingdaylight no it doesn't   yet anyway.
[08:43] <intelikey> ricanelite ask about the main.* in #ubuntu  maybe someone that is expert in java
[08:44] <intelikey> or maybe not.
[08:44] <intelikey> bbeck_ it should be possable.  i've never tried it.
[08:45] <intelikey> what am i saying "should be possabel"  of course it's possable.  this is linux, you can do anything in linux.
[08:47] <livingdaylight> now, i'm confused nvidia-glx-legacy because i have agp or just nvidia-glx?
[08:48] <intelikey> livingdaylight the link i sent via the bot has a list of what needs legacy and evry thing not on the list assumes it doesn't
[08:48] <intelikey> !ati
[08:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:48] <intelikey> that page ^
[08:50] <livingdaylight> intelikey: too true...sorry
[08:50] <intelikey> np
[08:53] <dreamers> Thnx for the help guys. See you later.
[08:54] <thygrrr> Please help me... for some strange reason, every time I boot up, the kpersonalizer wizard pops up and asks for settings... either way, my kde settings are gone after that happens (e.g. windows shade on doubleclick instead of maximize, etc)
[08:55] <buzzy> please suggest me a download accelerator..
[08:56] <zorglu_> buzzy: what is a 'download accelerator' ?
[08:57] <buzzy> downlaod manager
[08:57] <buzzy> i meant
[08:57] <buzzy> sorry
[08:57] <buzzy> zorglu_,
[08:57] <zorglu_> same question :)
[08:57] <Hawkwind> Manage your files from CLI or from konqueror or the likes :)
[08:57] <fdoving> buzzy: kget
[08:58] <fdoving> I use 'axel' if i want to download something fast.
[08:58] <intelikey> wget
[08:58] <abattoir> hi hyper :)
[08:58] <zorglu_> so a 'download manager' in window term, is something like wget ?
[08:58] <Hawkwind> I use wget since my connection is darn fast enough
[08:59] <fdoving> can wget make more than one connection?
[08:59] <zorglu_> nope, wget use a single http connection
[08:59] <zorglu_> http1.0
[08:59] <intelikey> man wget    or even   man curl
[08:59] <Hawkwind> fdoving: If you use it in multiple terminals it can :)
[08:59] <fdoving> then axel probably will be faster.
[08:59] <Hawkwind> But what I download is usually torrents, which ktorrent comes into play then
[09:00] <intelikey> some like culr
[09:00] <intelikey> curl
[09:00] <ricanelite> what you all think could be causing this here is the error message Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError : main/jnlp
[09:01] <jessica_> hallo!
[09:01] <zorglu_> fdoving: do you have an url for axel ?  i googled a bit wihtout success ?
[09:01] <fdoving> it's in the repos.
[09:01] <fdoving> !axel
[09:01] <ubotu> axel: A light download accelerator - Console version. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0b-1 (dapper), package size 33 kB, installed size 168 kB
[09:01] <jessica_> wie ging das nochmal fr deutsch?
[09:01] <LjL> !de
[09:01] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:02] <jessica_> danke!
[09:02] <LjL> bitte
[09:02] <intelikey> ricanelite have you asked in  ##java  ?
[09:02] <fabrice_> join /sdz
[09:02] <zorglu_> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/download-accelerator-for-linux-command-line-tools.html <- axel url i found :)
[09:03] <ricanelite> i cant join that channel it said
[09:04] <Hawkwind> zorglu_: You know you're always supposed to search the repos first :)
[09:04] <zorglu_> :)
[09:04] <ricanelite> it says you need to be identified to join that channel
[09:05] <intelikey> ricanelite have you asked in  #ubuntu   ?
[09:05] <Hawkwind> ricanelite: What channel are you referring to ?
[09:05] <ricanelite> Java
[09:05] <Hawkwind> ricanelite: So register your nick
[09:05] <intelikey> you can regester your nick and idintify with the server.   /msg nickserv help
[09:05] <ricanelite> i did already
[09:06] <intelikey>    /msg nickserv help
[09:06] <intelikey>    /msg nickserv help idintify
[09:06] <zorglu_> !register
[09:06] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:07] <pacman> uh oh
[09:07] <zorglu_> ricanelite: and i advice you to identify automatically via konversation. it is done auytomatically, less bothering and avoid mistakes like giving your password on the channle :)
[09:07] <pacman> Small aircraft has flown into a residential high rise in New York
[09:08] <intelikey> pacman ?
[09:08] <pacman> yeah
[09:08] <intelikey> linky ?
[09:08] <pacman> cnn.com
[09:10] <intelikey> had me worried.  thought you meant another one.
[09:11] <fdoving> zorglu_: just tested aget, looks like it's actually faster than axel too. you should check it out.
[09:12] <zorglu_> fdoving: thanks i will
[09:13] <intelikey> now that's a short man page.
[09:13] <intelikey> man aget
[09:14] <intelikey> concise might apply.
[09:15] <intelikey> would the oppisite of information be outformation ?
[09:16] <TheGateKeeper> fdoving: have you used partimage?
[09:17] <fdoving> TheGateKeeper: yes.
[09:17] <TheGateKeeper> easy to setup & backup stuff to dvd?
[09:17] <fdoving> yes.
[09:17] <felixjet> hi
[09:18] <TheGateKeeper> fdoving: ok thanx, might give that a try
[09:18] <felixjet> i have a problem, i enter the windows partition to do somethings, i back to linux and i have 640x480 res. and cant change. what can i do?
[09:19] <felixjet> the driver appears as legacy, now i installed nvidia-glx but i cant select it from screen prefrecence -> hardware
[09:19] <felixjet> plz hel
[09:19] <fdoving> TheGateKeeper: i use a knoppix livecd for it. if you intend to use the client-server function, i recommend to run a livecd on the server too. or somehow run the -exact- same version of partimage on both ends.
[09:20] <TheGateKeeper> fdoving: ok thanx, I was just thinking of using to back up my desktop pc
[09:21] <TheGateKeeper> fdoving: never really sure whether to use something like partimage or just to use tar
[09:22] <fdoving> TheGateKeeper: i use backupninja (with rdiff-backup) and partimage.
[09:22] <felixjet> i have a problem, i enter the windows partition to do somethings, i back to linux and i have 640x480 res. and cant change. what can i do?
[09:24] <calr0x> What package specifically installs "sshd_config"?  I'd like to reinstall the cfg, as it was removed.  Thx
[09:24] <calr0x> openssh-server does not install it.
[09:24] <intelikey> openssh-server
[09:24] <TheGateKeeper> felixjet: have a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:25] <TheGateKeeper> fdoving: ok thanx, backupninja that's a new one on me :-)
[09:27] <intelikey> calr0x   grep  /etc/ssh/sshd_config /var/lib/dpkg/info/*
[09:27] <fdoving> calr0x: get the deb of openssh-server (can't do this with apt-get afaik). and run 'sudo dpkg -i --force-confmiss openssh-server.deb'
[09:27] <fdoving> calr0x: that's if the config is missing.
[09:28] <fdoving> calr0x: if you have downlaoded the package with apt-get, you can get the .deb file from /var/cache/apt/archives/
[09:29] <root__> ey
[09:29] <root__> i have a bigggggggggg problem
[09:29] <Hawkwind> You shouldn't be irc'ing as root for one thing :)
[09:29] <fdoving> !ask
[09:29] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:29] <trappist> I'll say.  you're irc'ing as root!
[09:29] <calr0x> everyone: thx alot!
[09:29] <trappist> dangit.
[09:29] <Hawkwind> Nor should you be logged into X as root either
[09:30] <root__> i restarted the pc and it dont shows me the login window
[09:30] <root__> i had a problem with grah card... it showed all in 680x480. i installed nvidia-glx. restarted a few times
[09:30] <intelikey> you shouldn't be restarting it..
[09:30] <root__> and after a 4th, i cant load the login window
[09:30] <jdawiz> root__ does it show you a black screen?
[09:30] <root__> it shows the kubuntu black and blue screen
[09:30] <calr0x> fdoving: you addressed it perfectly thx
[09:30] <fdoving> !xconfig
[09:30] <ubotu> xconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[09:30] <root__> without that XXXXXXXXXXX ----------- [ok] 
[09:31] <fdoving> calr0x: great, glad you got it working :)
[09:31] <root__> i must do that xconfig?
[09:31] <root__> and ill lose my configs/preferences?
[09:31] <fdoving> you can backup your current xorg.conf
[09:32] <TheGateKeeper> CNN.com: A small plane has crashed into a building in New York City. No further details immediately available.
[09:32] <root__> how plz
[09:32] <fdoving> cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/backup.xorg.conf
[09:32] <root__> this irc client is so annoying
[09:32] <lithium> hi all
[09:33] <root__> k
[09:33] <fdoving> TheGateKeeper: as rude and feelingless it might sound, #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[09:33] <root__> and the other thing
[09:33] <root__> !xconfig
[09:33] <ubotu> xconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[09:33] <TheGateKeeper> fdoving: just info
[09:33] <soulrider> does anyone know if theres any live CDs that already come with spanish as their default language ?
[09:33] <root__> brb
[09:33] <root__> XD
[09:33] <fdoving> TheGateKeeper: understand :)
[09:33] <root__> exit
[09:33] <root__> quit
[09:33] <soulrider> someone needs a live CD thats in spanish
[09:33] <root__> u_U
[09:33] <intelikey>  /
[09:33] <root__> how to quit this irc
[09:33] <fdoving> root__: /quit
[09:33] <intelikey>  /quit
[09:33] <soulrider> type /quit or disconnect
[09:34] <root__> oh yea >.<
[09:34] <intelikey> switch consoles and do a killall
[09:34] <lithium> any known issues with updating from kde 3.5.4 to 3.5.5?
[09:34] <fdoving> soulrider: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/debian.htm search for spanish.
[09:35] <fdoving> lithium: the upgrade process was flawless in edgy.
[09:35] <fdoving> don't know for dapper.
[09:35] <scion> morning all
[09:35] <lithium> i wait for edgy until it's final.
[09:35] <root__> >.<
[09:36] <root__> !xconfig
[09:36] <ubotu> xconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[09:36] <root__> oh, i typed dpkg -recon
[09:36] <fdoving> soulrider: isn't the spanish translations included on the dapper livecd?
[09:37] <soulrider> nope
[09:37] <soulrider> you gotta install them
[09:37] <intelikey> should we tell root that he has other consoles he can use ?
[09:37] <soulrider> downlaod and install
[09:37] <soulrider> but i need a live CD thats in spanish
[09:38] <fdoving> there must be atleast one. there are even livecds in norwegian. :)
[09:38] <scion> !es
[09:38] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:38] <soulrider> fdoving: i cant seem to be bale to find a link
[09:38] <soulrider> really? =/
[09:38] <soulrider> i must ahve missed it then
[09:38] <fdoving> soulrider: did you try: 21:35 < fdoving> soulrider: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/debian.htm search for spanish.
[09:39] <fdoving> brb.. re-login to kde 3.5.5.
[09:39] <soulrider> i cant find where to search =/
[09:39] <soulrider> all i see is URL;s to the main sites
[09:40] <TheGateKeeper> soulrider: http://www.agnix.org/ <-- any good ???
[09:40] <lithium> anyone knows if the spacing between maximize and close button can be removed (its the crystal window decoration)? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=17357&d=1160588990
[09:40] <root__> LOL
[09:40] <intelikey> should we tell root that he has other consoles he can use ?       tty's are accessed via alt+f# tty's one throught 6 are active by default.
[09:40] <root__> that xorg reconfigure
[09:41] <soulrider> thats  portuguese
[09:41] <root__> is so hard
[09:41] <root__> i dunno what i did, just clicking where it looks like a default
[09:41] <root__> lol
[09:41] <TheGateKeeper> soulrider: damn it said spanish when I googled
[09:41] <root__> so now, restart pc?
[09:42] <soulrider> looks like, but its not :P
[09:42] <TheGateKeeper> soulrider: use www.google.com/linux to search
[09:42] <intelikey> root no just init 2
[09:42] <intelikey> too late
[09:42] <ROBOd> hello
[09:43] <ROBOd> i want to get kde-355
[09:43] <ROBOd> will kde-latest point to kde-355?
[09:43] <felixjet> damn it
[09:43] <SeanTater> ROBOd: Look here: http://www.kde.org/info/3.5.5.php
[09:43] <felixjet> i was that root user XD
[09:43] <felixjet> now fixed :d
[09:43] <felixjet> i have big resolution
[09:43] <ROBOd> SeanTater: i know... but i don't want to change the repository each night
[09:43] <ROBOd> :)
[09:43] <SeanTater> ROBOd: better yet: Here http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php
[09:44] <ROBOd> SeanTater: yeah, i know
[09:44] <ROBOd> but.....?
[09:44] <ROBOd> did you get my point? :)
[09:44] <soulrider> !es
[09:44] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:44] <soulrider> i better ask there :P
[09:44] <MasterEvilAce> is restarting X pretty much all that's needed after an apt upgrade to run the latest stuff? Aside from kernel updates which requires a restart (i think?).. what about videocard drivers as well?
[09:44] <SeanTater> ROBOd: Plan on compiling it then?
[09:45] <SeanTater> MasterEvilAce: I depends on "most things"
[09:45] <SeanTater> MasterEvilAce:  It will use the new things like KDE 3.5.5
[09:45] <SeanTater> MasterEvilAce: and x drivers
[09:46] <SeanTater> MasterEvilAce: a great deal of programs do not even need that
[09:46] <MasterEvilAce> SeanTater: i see i see
[09:47] <felixjet> can i modify /X11/xorg.conf addin lines that i have on a backup ?
[09:47] <felixjet> or manual modify will crash
[09:47] <MasterEvilAce> yeah you can edit it
[09:47] <SeanTater> felixjet: sure, you can edit it] 
[09:47] <felixjet> okey
[09:48] <SeanTater> felixjet: but I would keep a backup of the current one anyway
[09:48] <faLUCE> hi
[09:48] <SeanTater> faLUCE: gello
[09:48] <SeanTater> faLUCE: g/h
[09:48] <TheGateKeeper> felixjet: won't effect until you restartx
[09:48] <intelikey> felixjet it's only read when X starts.  also of note. you can have user specific configs in your home dir
[09:48] <TheGateKeeper> felixjet: won't take effect until you restartx  (grrr I can't type tonight)
[09:48] <felixjet> i found the problem !
[09:49] <felixjet> Section "Monitor"
[09:49] <felixjet>   modeline  "640x480@60"
[09:49] <felixjet> only that
[09:49] <felixjet> in my backup (the one i did while i have it broke)
[09:49] <intelikey> yeah i'd say it needs some more modelines
[09:49] <TheGateKeeper> comment it out then
[09:50] <Martijn81> anyone seen questions about /usr/lib/libfam.la in kde 3.5.5 here the last hours?
[09:50] <TheGateKeeper> ignore me :-)
[09:50] <zorglu_> i have seen any
[09:50] <intelikey> just yours Martijn81
[09:50] <zorglu_> have not
[09:50] <felixjet> same as nvidia section, it showed just 640x480
[09:50] <felixjet> n_n
[09:50] <fdoving> Martijn81: what do you do to get it?
[09:51] <yknott> what is wrong with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[09:51] <intelikey> yknott nothing
[09:51] <felixjet> whats the section DRI on xorg.conf? my backup file dont have it and the one i renerated now, does
[09:51] <yknott> o he just prefers to edit it manually
[09:51] <Martijn81> cool, because yesterday i installed the ( then non-official kde 3.5.5) which broke compiling of KTorrent. I wondered if this still was the case.
[09:52] <intelikey> well some people choose the simple method of monitor selection.  that shouldn't be an option....
[09:53] <fdoving> Martijn81: libfam.la should be in libgamin-dev, shouldn't have anything to do with kde 3.5.5.
[09:53] <intelikey> felixjet dri =dirrect rendering interface   or something like that.    do you have nvidia or ati or something ?
[09:54] <felixjet> yea, nvidia
[09:54] <felixjet> but in the backup file (the one broke that didnt let me start system) doesnt have it
[09:54] <intelikey> using nvidia or nv driver ?
[09:54] <felixjet> and the one i generate now, does
[09:54] <Martijn81> fdoving: well, dunno about that but something with that sed couldn't find /usr/lib/libfam.la anymore, and this was after this upgrade to 3.5.5
[09:54] <felixjet> should i keep that lines?
[09:54] <intelikey> using nvidia or nv driver ?
[09:54] <felixjet> i dunno
[09:54] <felixjet> wait
[09:55] <intelikey> scroll up and see
[09:55] <felixjet> mmm
[09:55] <felixjet> Graphic card: nv
[09:55] <fdoving> Martijn81: should just be a matter of re-installing 'libgamin-dev' i guess.
[09:55] <felixjet> Driver: nvidia
[09:55] <felixjet> xD
[09:55] <intelikey> then dri will be ignored anyway
[09:55] <felixjet> okey
[09:55] <Martijn81> fdoving: could be, but i have already reinstalled the whole system (we needed anyways)
[09:55] <Martijn81> *was
[09:57] <felixjet> btw the irc client on the shell is so annoying, the one who developed it should be killed
[09:57] <felixjet> XD
[09:57] <Martijn81> ah well, i'll wait a while to be sure, don't have the time to troubleshoot at the moment
[09:57] <fdoving> felixjet: what irc client? epic or ircII ?
[09:57] <felixjet> just "irc"
[09:58] <intelikey> felixjet that's alsmost my openion of the default irssi  ?
[09:58] <felixjet> i typed it in the console from recovery mode
[09:58] <felixjet> yes
[09:58] <felixjet> is irssi
[09:58] <fdoving> irssi is so nice :)
[09:59] <fdoving> best client of them all :)
[09:59] <felixjet> but so annoying when u run it in 640x480
[09:59] <intelikey> you can have it fdoving.  i'll stick with bx
[09:59] <fdoving> i used bx before too.
[10:00] <intelikey> don't get me wrong.  i can use irssi  but i have to reconfigure it first  :)
[10:00] <zorglu_> konqueror has this nice osd when somebody talk to me... very usefull. the first time i see that in a irc client
[10:00] <tsdgeos> zorglu_: konversation ;-)
[10:00] <zorglu_> yep this one :)
[10:00] <bhargav_> im having a bit of trouble with updates guys
[10:01] <intelikey> error ?
[10:01] <bhargav_> just did a fresh install, but none of the respositories seem to work
[10:01] <bhargav_> no error
[10:01] <intelikey> !repos
[10:01] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:01] <intelikey> read the page ^
[10:01] <B-Minus_> hey all
[10:02] <intelikey> wb b-
[10:02] <B-Minus_> im reading a tutorial to install citrix ica client
[10:02] <B-Minus_> first step it says is Install libmotif3 (Be sure you have Multiverse enabled, you can do this in Synaptic)
[10:02] <B-Minus_> i really cant see libmotif3 in adept :(
[10:02] <B-Minus_> even with multiverse
[10:03] <intelikey> tty2 [greg@~]  q libmotif
[10:03] <intelikey> libmotif-dev - Open Motif - development files
[10:03] <intelikey> libmotif3 - Open Motif - shared libraries
[10:03] <fdoving> !info libmotif3
[10:03] <ubotu> libmotif3: Open Motif - shared libraries. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2.2.3-1.2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1197 kB, installed size 3004 kB
[10:03] <B-Minus_> wtf
[10:03] <B-Minus_> then i have bad repositeries ?
[10:03] <intelikey> seems to be there.
[10:03] <B-Minus_> cause the windows fonts . msttcore or something i cant see either
[10:04] <jdawiz> earlier somebody had posted the code of conduct for this chat ... could one of you post it again.
[10:04] <B-Minus_> can i have your repositery url please
[10:04] <fdoving> !repos
[10:04] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:04] <B-Minus_> for multiverse
[10:04] <B-Minus_> ok
[10:04] <intelikey> B-Minus_ want to put up your sources.list on the pastebin ?
[10:05] <B-Minus_> url of pastebin please
[10:05] <intelikey> !paste
[10:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:05] <intelikey> it's also in the topic
[10:05] <B-Minus_> ok
[10:05] <roconnor> is there someway to get the audio in Firefox's flash to not cut out everytime some other application beeps?
[10:06] <intelikey> roconnor turn the beeping things off ?
[10:06] <bhargav_> THere was an error commiting changes, possibly there was a problem downloading some packages
[10:06] <bhargav_> this is what i get when i do fetch updates
[10:07] <bhargav_> using the live cd when  u press fetch updates it will show u a 100% on diff urls
[10:07] <intelikey> roconnor seriously tho  maybe try alsa in place of arts for the output
[10:07] <bhargav_> but this will nto show anything
[10:07] <B-Minus_> intelikey: its over here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26357/
[10:09] <intelikey> B-Minus_ no multiverse.    add the word 'multiverse to line 6 & 7   then save and  do an update
[10:09] <B-Minus_> ok tnx
[10:10] <B-Minus_> hmm
[10:10] <intelikey> B-Minus_   i mean lines  2 6 & 7
[10:10] <B-Minus_> but
[10:10] <intelikey> also add universe to line 2
[10:10] <B-Minus_> what about line 26 27
[10:10] <B-Minus_> there is multiverse
[10:11] <intelikey> 26 is backports
[10:11] <intelikey> eeek 2 is src  make that 1 in place of 2
[10:11] <B-Minus_> so what lines to i need to add it to
[10:11] <B-Minus_> lol
[10:11] <B-Minus_> :p
[10:11] <intelikey> 1 6 7
[10:11] <B-Minus_> you sure
[10:11] <bhargav_> ugh anyone have a solution to my prob
[10:12] <bhargav_> its a fresh install dunno why it would be doing this
[10:12] <draik> Is anyone having an issue saving bookmarks in firefox? I can't seem to keep them there after a reboot
[10:12] <intelikey> make em say;   deb http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[10:12] <B-Minus_> ok tnx
[10:12] <intelikey> that's line 1 of course.
[10:12] <roconnor> intelikey: Is there a way of adjusting the output for flash?
[10:12] <roconnor> probably not considering flash's nature
[10:12] <roconnor> thanks anyways
[10:13] <B-Minus_> so line 1 6 7
[10:13] <B-Minus_> but 7 is also src
[10:13] <intelikey> yep wont hurt to do line 2 also.if you use any source code
[10:13] <intelikey> but you probably dont.
[10:13] <B-Minus_> no
[10:14] <intelikey> roconnor idk.  i don't do flash java or windows
[10:14] <B-Minus_> but i read multiverse means not free
[10:14] <B-Minus_> it that true
[10:14] <intelikey> B-Minus_ means there is some code in it that is not GNU
[10:15] <intelikey> may be under other licenses  not GNU-GPL'd
[10:15] <B-Minus_> i see
[10:16] <dennister> hi again: trying to do some research this time
[10:17] <gogeta> hi guys
[10:17] <dennister> is there a newbie or someone with a fresh installation in here tonight?
[10:17] <B-Minus_> tnx
[10:17] <gogeta> anyone knoe of a good temp monoter
[10:17] <dennister> someone without any video installed yet?
[10:17] <gogeta> frends pc might be overheating the cpu
[10:18] <B-Minus_> intelikey: tnx but i cant seem to say something back in private
[10:18] <B-Minus_> i need to register i guess
[10:18] <intelikey> !regester B-Minus_
[10:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about regester B-Minus_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:18] <intelikey> !regester > B-Minus_
[10:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about regester - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:18] <fdoving> !register > b-minus_
[10:18] <fdoving> :)
[10:18] <intelikey> yeah !register > B-Minus_
[10:19] <bhargav_> dennister
[10:19] <bhargav_> i did a fresh install about 10 mins ago
[10:19] <dennister> great! can u do a search for bttv,ko and msp3400.ko pls?
[10:19] <B-Minus_> !register
[10:19] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:19] <bhargav_> yeah one sec
[10:19] <dennister> see if either are part of regular install
[10:20] <fdoving> dennister: linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic: /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/media/video/bt8xx/bttv.ko
[10:20] <fdoving> it's in edgy atleast.
[10:20] <bhargav_> im on dapper
[10:20] <bhargav_> searching now
[10:20] <dennister> ok...thx bhargav_
[10:20] <lecci> is possible that my pc daesn't have the library math.h? How can i find it?
[10:21] <dennister> yeah, i need to know if they're standard with dapper
[10:21] <fdoving> lecci: install the package 'libc6-dev'
[10:21] <lecci> ty
[10:22] <bhargav_> bttv.ko not found
[10:22] <justaguy> Upgraded synaptic crashes?
[10:22] <dennister> k...that's one
[10:22] <bhargav_> msp3400.ko found
[10:22] <lecci> i have already install the package libc6-dev
[10:22] <bhargav_> in /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/media/video/
[10:23] <fdoving> lecci: then you have it. it's at /usr/include/math.h
[10:23] <dennister> k...now i need to find out why i have bttv here :-)
[10:23] <lecci> a moment..
[10:23] <bhargav_> hehe
[10:23] <bhargav_> i can't upgrade !!!
[10:23] <bhargav_> someone wanna help me real quick
[10:23] <jdawiz> gogeta --   most temperature sensor software that I have found is hardware specific.  Could you give motherboard info please
[10:23] <intelikey> /var/lib/dpkg/info/libc6-dev.list:/usr/include/math.h
[10:24] <dennister> i was trying so hard with the ivtv drivers last weekend, and i read that msp was standard, but they sometimes conflict with bttv
[10:24] <bhargav_> There was an error downloading updates
[10:25] <intelikey> bhargav_ error ?
[10:25] <justaguy> I ran into that error a couple times today
[10:25] <bhargav_> no error
[10:25] <justaguy> ...downloading updates
[10:25] <bhargav_> when i press fetch updates
[10:25] <bhargav_> it does not show anything
[10:25] <dennister> the updates need some input from u today
[10:25] <dennister> wait
[10:26] <intelikey> bhargav_ don't press.   open the konsole and type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:26] <dennister> i'm checking my last dpkg run
[10:27] <menace> on ktorrent. why do files stall if theres still peers to give you the files?
[10:27] <bhargav_> Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:27] <bhargav_> everything is closed btw
[10:27] <bhargav_> nothing is running
[10:27] <zorglu_> !adept crash fix
[10:27] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[10:27] <|lostbyte|> menace:  Cause the peers who have the file, dnt have that  part of the file.
[10:27] <menace> no, it says that all of the file is available
[10:28] <intelikey> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:28] <intelikey> and try again
[10:28] <zorglu_> menace: you got snubbed :)
[10:28] <menace> whats snubbed?
[10:28] <zorglu_> menace: well quite hard to explain the bt protocol here
[10:28] <bhargav_> same error still
[10:29] <zorglu_> menace: but it may be normal not to get download even if it is available
[10:29] <menace> ok
[10:29] <intelikey> then something is still running   adept ?
[10:29] <menace> its downloading all files so slow...its annoying
[10:29] <menace> is there a way to speed up the downloads? ...i noticed i dont have DHT enabled...but i dont know what DHT is
[10:30] <zorglu_> menace: enabling the dht may give you more peers so may improve your download speed
[10:31] <menace> what should my UDP port be?
[10:31] <dennister> menace: dht is a distributed tracker
[10:31] <zorglu_> dunno, look at your configuration
[10:31] <bhargav_> yeah same error guys
[10:31] <bhargav_> nothing is using adept
[10:31] <intelikey> then something is still running  synaptic?
[10:32] <dennister> it's normal to use dht
[10:32] <mikki> need help with xgl, have installed it but wont worke
[10:32] <bhargav_> k got it
[10:32] <bhargav_> i get this
[10:32] <intelikey> you don't get a can't lock dir message after a   sudo dpkg --configure -a    unless something is using dpkg
[10:32] <bhargav_> Failed to fetch http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Connection failed
[10:32] <bhargav_> Failed to fetch http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/main/source/Sources.gz  Connection failed
[10:32] <bhargav_> Failed to fetch http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/restricted/source/Sources.gz  Connection failed
[10:32] <bhargav_> Failed to fetch http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/universe/source/Sources.gz  Connection failed
[10:32] <bhargav_> Failed to fetch http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  Connection failed
[10:32] <bhargav_> Reading package lists... Done
[10:33] <intelikey> bhargav_ drop the pl.  and re try
[10:33] <bhargav_> ok
[10:33] <fdoving> !pastebin
[10:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:33] <fdoving> ^^ is nice.
[10:33] <felixjet> !obotu
[10:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about obotu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:33] <felixjet> !ubotu
[10:33] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:33] <felixjet> xD
[10:33] <felixjet> hajasjassja
[10:34] <bhargav_> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  Connection failed [IP: 195.248.90.23 80] 
[10:34] <menace> so how do i get snubbed? or is that a bad thing?
[10:34] <zorglu_> menace: no it is normal. and you didnt do anything special
[10:34] <menace> but im not snubbed on hardly any peers
[10:34] <intelikey> bhargav_ hmmmm   ;/
[10:34] <bhargav_> i know
[10:35] <bhargav_> this is a strange problem
[10:35] <intelikey> try the nl. server for the backports
[10:35] <bhargav_> i dought it will work
[10:35] <felixjet> !microsoft
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about microsoft - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <bhargav_> i even tried third party
[10:35] <felixjet> XDDD
[10:35] <luis_lopez> Hi, is there going to be a Kubuntu Certification the same way as there is a Ubuntu Certification (http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/certification/pro)?
[10:35] <felixjet> micro what?
[10:35] <felixjet> lol
[10:35] <bhargav_> haha
[10:35] <felixjet> !windows
[10:35] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[10:36] <bhargav_> how can i reset the keys ?
[10:36] <dennister> bhargav_: the others helping u are more knowledgeable than I, but I've found clearing bad installs out of the packagers' cache often helps
[10:36] <felixjet> XD
[10:36] <felixjet> ok i stop
[10:36] <menace> so its bad to not be snubbed?
[10:36] <intelikey> bhargav humour me    try the nl. server for the backports
[10:36] <dennister> its an idea, anyway, perhaps the more senior pps can comment on the idea?
[10:36] <bhargav_> how do i clear the cache
[10:36] <bhargav_> ok
[10:36] <bhargav_> one sec
[10:36] <dennister> menace: no it's not bad to be snubbed
[10:37] <menace> i said "not to be snubbed" dennister
[10:37] <june_> how do i set up a linux box to share its printer through samba?
[10:37] <dennister> sorry
[10:37] <zorglu_> menace: hehe you seems to have trouble with that :) 'snubbed' is a 'technical term' of bittorrent. dont focus on it
[10:37] <menace> k
[10:37] <bhargav_> Err http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/restricted Sources
[10:37] <bhargav_>   Connection failed [IP: 213.136.29.196 80] 
[10:38] <intelikey> bhargav_ and doing a  sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/*   could help       not I not i  L nl
[10:38] <dennister> bhargav_: to clear cache u navigate to the packager's cache and remove the offending install
[10:38] <dennister> exactly...listen to intelikey
[10:38] <zorglu_> menace: to improve your download speed, ensure you get as many peer as possible,  aka enable dht, peer exhcange, be sure to be reachable by other (port opening) and you are done
[10:38] <zorglu_> menace: #bittorrent may help you on this
[10:39] <bhargav_> sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/*
[10:39] <bhargav_> no such file
[10:39] <intelikey> bhargav_ then it's clean.
[10:39] <bhargav_> yeah
[10:39] <bhargav_> i figured
[10:40] <menace> k thanks zorglu
[10:41] <intelikey> bhargav_ only thing i can tell you is just comment out the multiverse word on the backports line    i have see the servers do this before but i don't know what causes it.
[10:41] <intelikey> it should be back to normal in a day or two
[10:42] <bhargav_> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/source/Sources.gz  Connection failed [IP: 195.248.90.23 80] 
[10:42] <bhargav_> still failing
[10:42] <intelikey> bhargav_ maybe the backports section is on a MS server  hehhe
[10:42] <bhargav_> rotfl
[10:42] <bhargav_> haha
[10:43] <bhargav_> this was a clean install man
[10:43] <bhargav_> should not happen on a clean install
[10:44] <intelikey> bhargav_ TOD may affect.  you could have caught them in the middle of a server update...   and i agree. it should not.
[10:45] <bhargav_> so it might work tommo ?
[10:45] <bhargav_> since i been getting this problem yesterday also
[10:45] <intelikey> bhargav_ try just lding a file from some place with wget and see if your network is the reason
[10:45] <bhargav_> and i mean i did a FRESH install today to see if the problem would go away
[10:45] <bhargav_> one sec
[10:45] <intelikey> wget  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/source/Sources.gz
[10:46] <menace> ok, i just tryed to open adept. and when it asks me for my password i type it in...but it says that conversation with su failed...how can i fix this?
[10:46] <bhargav_> wget works
[10:46] <bhargav_> i just got the http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/source/Sources.gz
[10:46] <intelikey> so try the update again.
[10:46] <intelikey> see if it fails there ?
[10:46] <bhargav_> failed
[10:47] <bhargav_> lol
[10:47] <bhargav_> i think this build has a problem
[10:47] <bhargav_> ill try to redownload another build
[10:47] <intelikey> ok that's not a server issue that's an internal problem
[10:47] <bhargav_> yea
[10:47] <intelikey> check malone for info on that
[10:47] <red_> ubotu ati
[10:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:47] <intelikey> if there isn't any report it.
[10:48] <intelikey> bhargav_ what build/release is that ?
[10:49] <intelikey> dpkg --version
[10:49] <intelikey> Debian GNU/Linux `dpkg' package management program version 1.13.11 (i386).
[10:50] <bhargav_> same as u
[10:50] <june_> !samba
[10:50] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:51] <intelikey> apt-get  --version
[10:51] <intelikey> apt 0.6.43.3ubuntu2 for linux i386 compiled on Apr 18 2006 19:46:38
[10:51] <intelikey> same ?
[10:51] <bhargav_> apt 0.6.43.3ubuntu2 for linux i386 compiled on Apr 18 2006 19:46:38
[10:51] <bhargav_> yup
[10:52] <bhargav_> haha i know
[10:52] <bhargav_> i rarely go ask for help
[10:52] <bhargav_> first time
[10:52] <jhutchins_wk> How do I query apt to see if a paclage is installer already?
[10:52] <felixjet> just install it
[10:53] <felixjet> and if u have it, apt-get wont let you install it
[10:53] <intelikey> bhargav_ for the record.  those hard questions rarely get resolved in here.
[10:54] <intelikey> bhargav_ can you send me your /var/log/dpkg.log
[10:54] <bhargav_> one sec
[10:56] <jhutchins_wk> What if I don't want to install it, I want to see if it's installed.  Maybe it's causing trouble.
[10:56] <felixjet> well, dunno how to do in console mode
[10:56] <jhutchins_wk> Or what if I want to verify that all the parts of the package are still intact?
[10:56] <felixjet> but with interface, open adept
[10:56] <felixjet> and search for it
[10:56] <intelikey> jhutchins_wk to list packages   dpkg -l | less
[10:56] <felixjet> or use apt-get --help
[10:57] <felixjet> :)
[10:57] <flake> howdy, i finally found out how to manually activate my wireless network card..
[10:57] <jhutchins_wk> intelikey: Perhaps dpkg -l package might work?
[10:57] <intelikey> run aptitiude
[10:57] <Hawkwind> Or use the graphical Adept :P
[10:57] <flake>   /sbin/ifup eth1
[10:57] <Hawkwind> jhutchins_wk: Yes, dpkg -l <package>
[10:57] <flake> and  /sbin/ifdown eth1 to bring down
[10:57] <flake> now to figure out how to make an autoexec.bat file
[10:57] <intelikey> more than one way to get to dpkg
[10:58] <intelikey> but all .deb's lead to dpkg
[10:59] <bhargav_> intelikey
[10:59] <bhargav_> accept
[10:59] <intelikey> no offers
[10:59] <bhargav_> wahhhh
[10:59] <bhargav_> i sent it
[11:00] <intelikey>        OIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII[dcc transfer stats] IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII,
[11:00] <intelikey>        [xferd in] -[xferd out] [total files] [active] [limit] 
[11:00] <intelikey>          0.00bytes   922.00byte              1         0        5 
[11:02] <intelikey> a lot is lost in the translation there  but it says nothing recieved and no offers    also auto accept is on
[11:02] <intelikey> err autoget
[11:02] <intelikey> autoget:  On
[11:02] <bhargav_> i dunno man
[11:03] <bhargav_> forget it for now
[11:03] <bhargav_> im gonna try one more fresh install
[11:03] <bhargav_> with the latest build on the site
[11:03] <intelikey> k
[11:03] <intelikey> edgy ?
[11:03] <bhargav_> dapper
[11:03] <bhargav_> whats good about edgy ?
[11:03] <bipolar> exit
[11:03] <intelikey> that will be what you have.  i'm uptodate
[11:03] <bipolar> hahaha
[11:04] <intelikey> updated about an hour ago
[11:04] <bhargav_> edgy is the latest ?
[11:04] <Hawkwind> bhargav_: It's still not final yet
[11:04] <intelikey> yeah  it's two weeks from the official release
[11:04] <bhargav_> im so lost in this right now... med school is killing me
[11:04] <Hawkwind> bhargav_: Won't be for another 2 weeks. So Dapper is the latest stable
[11:05] <intelikey> Reading package lists... Done
[11:05] <intelikey> ok 1
[11:05] <intelikey> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:05] <intelikey> ok 2
[11:06] <intelikey> that's scripted   the first is  apt-get update the second is apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:09] <joe_> intelikey: :'|
[11:09] <intelikey> joe_
[11:11] <inteliwasp> has anyone heard of "XFree86-DRI"  ?
[11:12] <intelikey> inteliwasp just now.
[11:14] <intelikey> i'm irc'ing in the wrong tty  back in a bit  (maybe)
[11:14] <inteliwasp> well my computer for some stupid reason needs that to use my videocard acceleration
[11:15] <Hawkwind> inteliwasp: What video card ?
[11:15] <inteliwasp> ati radeon 8500
[11:16] <inteliwasp> it is aiw but i done use that...
[11:16] <Hawkwind> Have you followed the ATI instructions at all ?
[11:16] <Hawkwind> !ati
[11:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:17] <obf213> can you fax using ethernet
[11:18] <inteliwasp> Hawkwind:  I used this page:  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[11:18] <Hawkwind> inteliwasp: Read the URL above
[11:18] <fdoving> gnite.
[11:19] <bomber> i was wondering if anyone knows how to force a 32 bit install from the dual arch dvd?
[11:19] <orkid__> boot the 32bit kernel? :|
[11:20] <bomber> yes indeed
[11:24] <enz0h> anyone know of any install issues with the Edgy beta desktop CD?  I'm in it right now but the install to HDD app is hanging
[11:24] <sonyoandreas> Stop doing what you do right now! Instead do this: 1. quit your job.  2. go to http://www.milliondollarscience.com   3. start making some freakin' money!   4 get filthy rich within 12 months!
[11:24] <inteliwasp> Hawkwind:  now all i need to do is to reboot and login X remotely...
[11:26] <TheGateKeeper> !java > thegatekeeper
[11:29] <inteliwasp> !laptop
[11:29] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[11:29] <david_> hi?
[11:31] <david_> hi!
[11:32] <dec_> hello, has anyone had problems (blocky picture) when using gnomebaker
[11:33] <dec_> hello, has anyone had problems (blocky picture) when using gnomebaker's copy feature
[11:35] <dec_> hello, has anyone had problems (blocky picture) when using gnomebaker's copy feature
[11:35] <intelikey> dec_ seeing that gnomebaker is a gnome app maybe you should ask in #buuntu   most people in here will be using k3b
[11:35] <obf213> !fax
[11:36] <intelikey> #ubuntu
[11:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fax - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:36] <obf213> what is the best program to use to fax
[11:36] <intelikey> kfax ?
[11:36] <lotusleaf> I'm running Edgy (I know I'm in #ubuntu+1 thanks anyway) and is there any advantage to adding kubuntu.org sources when I've already installed kde 3.5.5 via the ubuntu.com sources? Are there any differences between kubuntu from ubuntu.com sources and kubuntu.org sources?
[11:36] <intelikey> apt-cache search fax
[11:37] <intelikey> lotusleaf i wouldn't think so
[11:37] <lotusleaf> intelikey: thanks! So why, then, do two repos exist for the same thing?
[11:37] <lotusleaf> intelikey: just a different packager(s)?
[11:42] <intelikey> lotusleaf there are many repos  google search will attest to that.   the kde repo and the ubuntu repos both have kde in them but there isn't a kernel in the kde repo  it's all about what is where and how to find it.   yes many repetes and slight version/sub-version differances.
[11:43] <lotusleaf> intelikey: thanks I know there are tons of repos, I was just curious about Ubuntu *official* repos with KDE, thanks ;)
[11:43] <lotusleaf> intelikey: I know that sometimes kubuntu.org has newer versions of amaroK and such that ubuntu.com repos does not.. ok I guess there's no big difference thx
[11:44] <intelikey> any time lotusleaf
[11:44] <intelikey> any time
[11:44] <lotusleaf> =)
[11:46] <obf213> wht does purging on adept do
[11:46] <obf213> does it actually remove the packages
[11:46] <obf213> or removes the item from the list in the repository
[11:47] <surabachi> can ihave help with kxdocker?
[11:47] <claydoh> it uninstalls the package and also any config files as well
[11:48] <surabachi> anyone good with terminal error messages?
[11:49] <intelikey> obf213 purge means remove the package and its config files  while remove means only removing the the package not the configs.
[11:49] <intelikey> surabachi post or pastebin it
[11:49] <claydoh> you can put the error here and may be able to help, if it is a long paste, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[11:49] <intelikey> if it's one line post here
[11:49] <surabachi> intelikey: ok hold on a sec
[11:49] <claydoh> lol not fast enough, am I?
[11:50] <intelikey> claydoh sure
[11:50] <intelikey> compliment don't compete
[11:50] <claydoh> you're not supposed to agree with me :P
[11:50] <intelikey> :)
[11:51] <surabachi> intelikey: ok go here: http://pastebin.ca/198299
[11:51] <surabachi> intelikey: after i install kxdocker from the repos i try and run it in terminal and get tat error
[11:52] <surabachi> http://pastebin.ca/198299
[11:53] <surabachi> intelikey: any ideas?
[11:53] <intelikey> surabachi you are talking about the konsole terminal  not the   console tty virtual terminal   ?
[11:53] <surabachi> intelikey: yes i am talking about konsole
[11:53] <intelikey> surabachi hmmm thinking
[11:54] <surabachi> intelikey:  if it helps i am on kubuntu edgy
[11:54] <menace> #bittorrent
[11:55] <intelikey> well the error message says  "please install right kxdocker_conf.xml"    do a search for that file and see what you find
[11:55] <intelikey> find /usr -name kxdocker_conf.xml
[11:56] <intelikey> i'd say it's missing a config file.
[11:56] <claydoh> you might want to check if the package kxdocker-data is installed as well (I would assume it would automatically be installed
[11:57] <surabachi> yes it is
[11:57] <intelikey> you can also do a  dpkg -L kxdocker-data | grep kxdocker_conf.xml      to see if it's supposed to be there
[11:58] <surabachi> actually it seems the data one wasnt installed
[11:58] <bhargav> guys the issue has been resolved
[11:58] <intelikey> or dpkg -L kxdocker | grep kxdocker_conf.xml
[11:58] <bhargav> spi firewall on the router's new frimware was causing the problem
[11:58] <intelikey> bhargav yep.  there you go.
[11:59] <bhargav> how does apt-get get updates ?
[11:59] <bhargav> what protocol ?
[11:59] <surabachi> intelikey: i installed the data kxdocker buut it didnt fix the error
[11:59] <intelikey> ftp i think
[11:59] <intelikey> but don't quote me on it
[11:59] <bhargav> dunno why spi would block it then
[11:59] <bhargav> thats super strange
[11:59] <surabachi> anymore ideas?
[11:59] <intelikey> surabachi do the two commands ^ ?
[11:59] <TheGateKeeper> know a cli command to list the updates?
[12:00] <surabachi> i missed the commands u gave me sorry
[12:00] <surabachi> what were they?
[12:00] <intelikey> TheGateKeeper sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:00] <visik7> kde 3.5.5 for dapper wants to remove kdelibs-bin
[12:00] <intelikey>  dpkg -L kxdocker | grep kxdocker_conf.xml   &&   dpkg -L kxdocker-data | grep kxdocker_conf.xml
[12:01] <intelikey> surabachi ^
[12:01] <zorglu_> !backpots
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about backpots - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <zorglu_> !backpotrs
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about backpotrs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <visik7> !backports
[12:01] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[12:01] <zorglu_> thanks
[12:01] <visik7> :)
[12:01] <surabachi> intelikey: ok thhose two commands gave me this http://pastebin.ca/198310
[12:02] <intelikey> if either list the file check and see if it's there surabachi
[12:02] <intelikey> yep ls it
[12:02] <lotusleaf> !hwdb
[12:02] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Hardware Database can be found at http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/
[12:02] <lotusleaf> !newsgroups
[12:02] <ubotu> There are Ubuntu newsgroups via NNTP at news.gmane.org
[12:03] <surabachi> ook, it lists a file shoulld i go digging for it?
[12:03] <intelikey> surabachi ls -l  /usr/share/apps/kxdocker/kxdocker_conf.xml
[12:03] <TheGateKeeper> intelikey: sudo apt-get -u upgrade <--- that seems to be it, thanx anyway :-)
[12:03] <intelikey> not blank is it ?
[12:03] <visik7> kde 3.5.5 for dapper hasn't kdelibs-bin  kdelibs-bin !! WTF ?
[12:03] <surabachi> intelikey: um i got this
[12:03] <surabachi> mike@mike-desktop:~$ ls -l  /usr/share/apps/kxdocker/kxdocker_conf.xml
[12:03] <surabachi> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2006-08-16 19:36 /usr/share/apps/kxdocker/kxdocker_conf.xml
[12:03] <surabachi> mike@mike-desktop:~$
[12:04] <surabachi> whast that mean intelikey?
[12:04] <intelikey> TheGateKeeper not sure what you wanted.  without the -u will list them and ask if you wish to install them or not.
[12:04] <intelikey> surabachi eeek yep it's blank
[12:04] <intelikey> 0 bites
[12:04] <surabachi> intelikey:  so how do i fix it?
[12:05] <TheGateKeeper> intelikey: I just wanted one to list them
[12:06] <intelikey> so you need to reinstall kdocker   with  " sudo dpkg --reinstall /var/cache/apt/archives/kdocker* "   i guess.
[12:06] <intelikey> if that flys.  not sure the switch is correct. then ls the file again.
[12:07] <surabachi> intelikey:  with the * at the end of that command?
[12:07] <intelikey> see if it's still empty
[12:07] <intelikey> yes with the  *
[12:07] <surabachi> intelikey: i got somethign strange, i will pastebin it
[12:08] <TheGateKeeper> intelikey: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade <--- they tell me you should do this, then you can go back to a previous version if there is a problem
[12:08] <surabachi> intelikey: http://pastebin.ca/198320
[12:09] <surabachi> intelikey:  u get that?
[12:09] <claydoh> try sudo apt-get install --reinstall kxdocker-data
[12:10] <visik7> anyone have tried kde3.5.5 on dapper ?
[12:10] <surabachi> mike@mike-desktop:~$ try sudo apt-get install --reinstall kxdocker-data
[12:10] <surabachi> bash: try: command not found
[12:10] <surabachi> mike@mike-desktop:~$
[12:11] <visik7> ahahahhaha
[12:11] <visik7> OMFG
[12:11] <intelikey> surabachi yea i was checking the syntax.  try this insted   " sudo apt-get --reinstall kdocker kdocker-data
[12:11] <surabachi> just data not the kxdocker too
[12:12] <intelikey> sudo apt-get install --reinstall kdocker kdocker-data
[12:12] <surabachi> its kxdocker by the way not kdocker
[12:12] <intelikey> is the "install" needed when you use the "--reinstall" ???
[12:12] <intelikey> yeah spell it right
[12:12] <intelikey> :)
[12:12] <surabachi> lol
[12:13] <surabachi> intelikey:
[12:13] <surabachi> mike@mike-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get --reinstall kxdocker kxdocker-data
[12:13] <surabachi> E: Invalid operation kxdocker
[12:13] <surabachi> mike@mike-desktop:~$