[12:04] <pirast> hi, anybody around?
[12:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65187 in agenda.app (universe) "[Edgy]  Rebuild against latest libgnustep-gui-dev" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65187
[12:05] <pirast> what's the best practice for bugs in Dapper that do not exist in Edgy anymore (idependency problems)
[12:08] <gnomefreak> pirast: really depends on the bug i would say
[12:09] <gnomefreak> pirast: is the problem still on dapper?
[12:09] <pirast> yeah, seems so
[12:09] <pirast> gnomefreak, have a look at 65186 .. i would tend to close it as fix released but what do you think?
[12:10] <gnomefreak> bug 65186
[12:10] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 65186 in faac "libfaac-dev : broken package dependency?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65186
[12:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65188 in wine (universe) "Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu1 is doing mad things" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65188
[12:11] <gnomefreak> !info libfaac-dev
[12:11] <ubotu> libfaac-dev: an AAC audio encoder - development files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.24clean-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 56 kB, installed size 156 kB
[12:12] <gnomefreak> !info libmp4-dev
[12:12] <ubotu> Package libmp4-dev does not exist in any distro I know
[12:12] <gnomefreak> good
[12:12] <gnomefreak> pirast: its closable
[12:12] <gnomefreak> reason = its fixed weather it be package name changed or what not
[12:13] <pirast> gnomefreak, k.. thanks
[12:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65191 in Ubuntu "Resume after suspend fails on some NVidia-based laptops" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65191
[12:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65189 in kernel-package (main) "Missing option to xargs break built of UML-Kernel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65189
[12:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65190 in ftp.app (universe) "[Edgy]  Rebuild against latest libgnustep-gui-dev" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65190
[12:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65193 in Ubuntu "Samba hosts problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65193
[12:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65192 in Ubuntu "USB mouse with hp laptop pavilion zv5000" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65192
[12:22] <kristog> night
[12:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65194 in aclock.app (universe) "[Edgy]  Rebuild against latest libgnustep-gui-dev" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65194
[12:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65195 in linux-wlan-ng (main) "tries to load p80211 or ieee80211 modules" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65195
[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65196 in firefox-themes-ubuntu (main) "[Edgy]  New Firefox 2.0rc2 looks ugly with Human theme" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65196
[12:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65198 in ubiquity (main) "Ubuntu installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65198
[12:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65197 in xserver-xorg-video-savage (main) "NoDRI does not disable DRI" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65197
[12:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65199 in lyx (universe) "Lyx `paste external selection' broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65199
[12:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65200 in acpi-support (main) "Suspend & Hibernate from Menu works. Fn-Key & /etc/acpi/sleep.sh does not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65200
[12:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65201 in opensync (universe) "upgrade to release 0.19" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65201
[12:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65202 in gnustep-netclasses (universe) "[Edgy]  Rebuild against latest libgnustep-base-dev" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65202
[12:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65203 in gedit (main) "0.9.22-0ubuntu1  is actually 0.9.21 " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65203
[01:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65204 in preferences (universe) "[Edgy]  Please remove preferences (got renamed to preferences.app)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65204
[01:03] <secretlondon> hi
[01:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65205 in preferences.app (universe) "[Edgy]  Rebuild against latest libgnustep-gui-dev" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65205
[01:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65206 in qbankmanager (universe) "qbankmanager: Segfault during start-up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65206
[01:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65207 in steptalk (universe) "[Edgy]  Rebuild against latest libgnustep-{base,gui}-dev" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65207
[01:17] <popey> hello Caroline
[01:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65208 in wrapperfactory.app (universe) "[Edgy]  Rebuild against latest libgnustep-gui-dev" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65208
[01:23] <pirast> night
[01:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64270 in python-mysqldb (main) "Requesting python-mysqldb 1.2.1-p2-4ubuntu2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64270
[01:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65209 in cddb.bundle (universe) "[Edgy]  Rebuild against latest libgnustep-base-dev" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65209
[01:31] <crimsun> sfllaw: hmm, today was hugday?
[01:31] <crimsun> ah, the subject was mistitled
[01:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65210 in gaim-hotkeys (universe) "doesn't work with gaim 2.x" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65210
[01:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65211 in wildmenus.bundle (universe) "[Edgy]  Rebuild against latest libgnustep-gui-dev" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65211
[01:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65212 in firefox (main) "Tabs Have Two Close Buttons" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65212
[01:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65213 in shadow (main) "Unable to login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65213
[01:42] <lexual> Hi, edgy bug where gaim doesn't stop flashing in bottom taskbar. Do I file against metacity or gaim?
[01:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65214 in shadow (main) "Problems during install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65214
[01:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65215 in firefox (main) "Crash while using ALT-Left Arrow..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65215
[01:52] <sfllaw> Oh.
[01:52] <sfllaw> Yeah, maybe.
[01:53] <sfllaw> crimsun: Still, there is no reason why you can't chip in.
[01:53] <sfllaw> It's already started.
[01:53] <crimsun> sfllaw: sure, was just wondering about the date.
[01:54] <sfllaw> I must have typed it while looking at the calendar.
[01:55] <sfllaw> I do silly things like that sometimes.
[01:59] <gnomefreak> do we concider "ugly" a bug if it looks normal?
[01:59] <sfllaw> gnomefreak: You're going to have to be more specific.
[01:59] <sfllaw> If you don't like the earth tones, you're going to be out of luck.
[01:59] <gnomefreak> bug 65196
[01:59] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 65196 in firefox-themes-ubuntu "[Edgy]  New Firefox 2.0rc2 looks ugly with Human theme" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65196
[01:59] <gnomefreak> they think the human theme with new ff ugly
[02:00] <gnomefreak> from screenshot it looks normal (other than the added features he has
[02:00] <sfllaw> gnomefreak: I don't think that looks normal.
[02:00] <gnomefreak> no?
[02:00] <sfllaw> Check out the Google search bar.
[02:00] <sfllaw> And the gap between tabs and their close button.
[02:00] <sfllaw> And the chopped off icons.
[02:01] <sfllaw> There's _something_ bizarre there.
[02:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65217 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "mysqldump --opt --compatible=mysql40 fails to preserve auto_increment" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65217
[02:01] <FireRabbit> sfllaw: this was fixed upstream
[02:01] <FireRabbit> in firefox
[02:01] <gnomefreak> it was?
[02:01] <sfllaw> FireRabbit: Oh good.
[02:01] <sfllaw> FireRabbit: Do you know if iwj is going to merge that in?
[02:01] <FireRabbit> 1 sec ill find the bug
[02:01] <sfllaw> Thanks!
[02:05] <FireRabbit> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=350893
[02:05] <Ubugtu> Mozilla bug 350893 in OS Integration "New default theme has quirks under Linux/GTK" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] 
[02:05] <FireRabbit> hey neat
[02:05] <sfllaw> Yeah, Ubugtu is smart.
[02:05] <sfllaw> Thanks Seveas.
[02:05] <sfllaw> gnomefreak: Can you do the right thing with your bug?
[02:05] <gnomefreak> ill add it
[02:06] <sfllaw> Sweet.
[02:06] <gnomefreak> add fix commited to the upstream?
[02:06] <sfllaw> It should do that automagically.
[02:06] <gnomefreak> k
[02:08] <gnomefreak> added
[02:08] <sfllaw> Thanks.  Don't forget to confirm.
[02:09] <FireRabbit> got it
[02:10] <sfllaw> gnomefreak: That's probably a Low priority bug.
[02:10] <sfllaw> gnomefreak: But you might want to ping iwj about it, to see if he thinks it's more important.
[02:10] <gnomefreak> ok ill get there
[02:11] <gnomefreak> ok
[02:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65218 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "doesn't include atomic operations" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65218
[02:16] <ajmitch> sfllaw: sigh, I still need to catch up with you in karma - still > 30K behind ;)
[02:17] <opixus> does anyone know anything about this bug when installing the base system with the edgy eft beta cd   :  Warning: Failure trying to run: chroot /target mount -t proc proc /proc
[02:17] <sfllaw> ajmitch: Work harder.
[02:17] <sfllaw> I'll sick bddebian on you.
[02:17] <ajmitch> obviously
[02:17] <ajmitch> nah
[02:17] <sfllaw> s/k//
[02:17] <crimsun> nah, you should collab with seb. You'll pass simon in no time.
[02:17] <ajmitch> I've got to get a pile of f-spot patches in tonight, they don't close enough bugs though
[02:17] <sfllaw> Yay to fixing F-spot!
[02:18] <ajmitch> 15 upstream bugs with patches in cvs - lots of stable goodness
[02:18] <ajmitch> even better when an upstream developer helps supply the list of patches :)
[02:19] <sfllaw> Stylish!
[02:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65219 in xchat (universe) "irc server lag continuosly yo-yo's from 0 seconds to 20+ seconds" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65219
[02:20] <sfllaw> Maybe one day I'll use F-Spot.
[02:20] <sfllaw> My old laptop forced me to be seriously old-school.
[02:21] <ajmitch> there are a few things that won't make it into edgy, for good reasons
[02:21] <ajmitch> like the job scheduler patch which makes the UI so much more responsive
[02:21] <sfllaw> Yeah.  The nice thing about six month release schedules is that ou only have to wait for five.
[02:21] <ajmitch> but requires C# 2.0 libs
[02:21] <ajmitch> which would have to be put on the CD
[02:22] <ajmitch> sfllaw: wait? no, I just roll my own packages for edgy+1, so I don't have to wait :)
[02:22] <ajmitch> thanks to the magic of bzr, I can branch the packaging for edgy-updates
[02:23] <sfllaw> True dat.
[02:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65221 in Ubuntu "KDE Control Center write ~/.gtkrc-2.0 that causes many GNOME apps to crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65221
[02:54] <ryanoc> hey, what kind of permissions do you need to change importance? bug squad is not enough?
[02:56] <ryanoc> hmm, maintainer of product or dist?
[02:57] <ryanoc> that sucks, i was going to clean up that whole list
[02:58] <ash211> member of ubuntu-qa
[02:58] <ash211> https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-qa
[02:59] <ajmitch> since importance is generally distro-wide for what bugs to work on first, it's a little bit restricted
[03:00] <ryanoc> i see
[03:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65222 in gaim (main) "Random crash (After closing conversation)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65222
[03:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65223 in mozilla-firefox-locale-all (main) "Package is empty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65223
[03:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65226 in openoffice.org (main) "Paste from writer to gaim in edgy segfaults writer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65226
[03:42] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65225 in network-manager (main) "Incorrectly identifies unencrypted networks as WPA or WEP" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65225
[03:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65224 in Ubuntu "pmount is needed by gnome, but not installed by ubuntu-desktop" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65224
[03:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65227 in xubuntu-meta (main) "Custom GTK2 themes don't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65227
[04:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65228 in Ubuntu "i915 driver flooded syslog" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65228
[04:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65229 in network-manager (main) "Unable to set a static IP on a specific interface" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65229
[04:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65230 in Ubuntu "startup messages continue on screen after first login prompt appears" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65230
[04:22] <TheMuso> c
[04:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65231 in epiphany-browser (main) "epiphany depends on firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65231
[04:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65233 in totem (main) "sound does not work in totem-mozilla" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65233
[04:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65234 in ltsp-client-builder (main) "LTSP chroot build fails at 50% on multiple systems" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65234
[04:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65235 in udev (main) "Dpkg pauses at Reloading kernel event manager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65235
[05:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65236 in stellarium (universe) "Stellarium can be upgraded in Dapper" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65236
[06:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65238 in mono (main) "mono-cairo 2 is not install a pkg-config file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65238
[06:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65239 in beagle (main) "Emails not opened within beagle-search" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65239
[06:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65241 in evolution (main) "Error while generating message list when accessing inbox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65241
[08:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65242 in mc (universe) "ctrl-ins in internal editor no longer copies to internal mc clipboard" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65242
[08:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65243 in evolution (main) "Subscribed calender does not want to be 'checked'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65243
[09:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65244 in pam (main) "ulimits not set accrding to /etc/security/limits.conf for root" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65244
[09:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65245 in spfmilter (universe) "Startup doesn't work, if /var/run is on tmpfs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65245
[09:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65248 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "no audio driver (soundblaster audigy 2ZS)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65248
[09:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65247 in Ubuntu "MagicMedia AV (NeoMagic) is not set up at all" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65247
[09:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65246 in yelp (main) "Wrong manuals for applications listed under Desktop category" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65246
[09:43] <dholbach> good morning
[09:43] <dholbach> HAPPY HUG DAY
[09:44] <seb128> hi dholbach
[09:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65249 in Ubuntu "keyboard strokes registered repeatedly or not registered at all" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65249
[09:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65250 in kdelibs (main) "Kubuntu Edgy doesn't mount floppy disks" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65250
[09:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65251 in onboard (main) "work without nautilus" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65251
[10:03] <dholbach> hey cieffe__, xav - welcome to the bug day!
[10:04] <xav> oh it's bug day
[10:04] <dholbach> yeah :-)
[10:07] <dholbach>  we have 194 members of the BugSquad already !!!
[10:08] <cieffe__> hi everybody
[10:08] <cieffe__> I'm not a bug hunter :)
[10:09] <cieffe__> I'm here to try to learn something :)
[10:11] <predius> haha, that 194 was apparently me.
[10:14] <dholbach> :)
[10:14] <dholbach> predius: might be :)
[10:15] <dholbach> Cieffe: great to have you here
[10:15] <dholbach> onif you haven't read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs yet - that's a good start
[10:15] <dholbach> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay has a couple of tasks we're going to work on today
[10:15] <dholbach> don't hesitate to ask if you have a question
[10:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65254 in Ubuntu "Request/bug  about login screens." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65254
[10:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65252 in Ubuntu "Mozzila FireFox and DownThemAll (bug)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65252
[10:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65255 in openssh (main) "[dapper]  does not clean up kerberos credentials on logout" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65255
[10:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65256 in eclipse (universe) "Claims to require mozilla-browser but no dependency" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65256
[10:29] <dholbach> hey Lure, geser!
[10:30] <geser> hello dholbach
[10:31] <dholbach> how's the hug day going?
[10:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65257 in python-qt3 (main) "python segfaults when importing qt" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65257
[10:36] <predius> one thing, by being a memmber of the bugsquad,  do I have any extra powers over bugs?
[10:38] <dholbach> you are entitled to fix them all! :-)
[10:39] <dholbach> no, you don't have special power, but a funky new emblem on your launchpad page :)
[10:39] <seb128> changing the importance of bugs too, no?
[10:39] <dholbach> that's ubuntu-qa
[10:40] <seb128> and bugsuad is yet another team?
[10:40] <seb128> bugsquad
[10:40] <dholbach> yes
[10:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65258 in openoffice.org (main) "[edgy]  Openoffice can't open documents with cyrillic letters in path/filename" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65258
[10:40] <seb128> ah, k
[10:40] <seb128> I didn't know you create another team
[10:40] <seb128> too many teams for me :p
[10:40] <dholbach> sfllaw created ubuntu-qa
[10:40] <dholbach> bugsquad was there before
[10:41] <seb128> right, I thought it was deprecated by ubuntu-qa now
[10:41] <mvo> dholbach: do we have bluetooth now on the livecd?
[10:42] <dholbach> mvo: bluetooth like what?
[10:42] <seb128> mvo: "now"? it's not new
[10:42] <seb128> mvo: bluez is to desktop for ages afaik
[10:42] <dholbach> kernel does bluetooth, libbtctl yes, nautilus-sendto, yes
[10:43] <seb128> nautilus-sendto too
[10:43] <mvo> dholbach: ok, thanks. I'm doing triage now and there was a old bug about this
[10:43] <dholbach> just the new versions will make it more usable
[10:45] <mvo> thanks guys
[10:48] <mvo> reproducing dist-upgrade bugs takes so freaking long - I can do a bit of triaging in the meantime
[10:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65260 in nautilus (main) "Nautilus bug silently deletes files & folders :-(" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65260
[11:01] <predius> guys, who do I assign a bug to when the maintainer is in debian and the bug is a missing dependency?
[11:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65262 in app-install-data-commercial (main) "Version in dapper-updates is higher than the one in edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65262
[11:03] <dholbach> predius: which package is that?
[11:05] <predius> dholbach: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/abiword/+bug/58662
[11:05] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 58662 in abiword "should depend on abiword-gnome" [Undecided,Confirmed] 
[11:05] <predius> dholbach: and wow, i was _just_ looking at your profile for some reason
[11:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65261 in xfdesktop (universe) "Deleted items icon on desktop does not change when trash full/empty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65261
[11:06] <dholbach> predius: the bug should be rejected
[11:06] <dholbach> predius: it's a conscious choice not to have that depends
[11:06] <predius> ah k
[11:06] <dholbach> for example xubuntu would be very unhappy to pull in lots of gnome libraries
[11:07] <predius> thing is, the package doesn't work without that dependency
[11:07] <dholbach> hm?
[11:07] <predius> Ah, wait.
[11:07] <xerxas> Hi
[11:08] <predius> dholbach: just noticed.
[11:08] <dholbach> hi xerxas - happy hug day!
[11:08] <dholbach> predius: works for me
[11:08] <xerxas> ohh, yeah , it's hug day
[11:08] <xerxas> :)
[11:09] <predius> dholbach: abiword-plugins-gnome doesn't work without abiword-gnome
[11:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65263 in talksoup.app (universe) "[Edgy]  Rebuild against latest libgnustep-gui-dev" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65263
[11:11] <dholbach> predius: how did you test it?
[11:12] <dholbach> predius: it currently contains the svg plugin and it depends on librsvg2-2
[11:12] <predius> dholbach: installed abiword-plugins-gnome and didn't install abiword-gnome
[11:12] <dholbach> and I successfully inserted a svg
[11:12] <dholbach> predius: and where did the error occur to you?
[11:12] <dholbach> i did the same
[11:13] <predius> Setting up abiword-plugins-gnome (2.4.5-0ubuntu2) ...
[11:13] <predius> paimei% abiword
[11:13] <predius> zsh: command not found: abiword
[11:13] <dholbach> ah!
[11:14] <predius> dholbach: so?
[11:14] <dholbach> predius: so that should be abiword-gnome | abiword
[11:14] <predius> so it should.
[11:15] <dholbach> (= ${Source-Version}) probably
[11:15] <predius> it's currently required abiword-common
[11:15] <dholbach> the best thing would be to attach a patch and assign to ubuntu-main-sponsors
[11:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65253 in Ubuntu "please sync bluez-gnome from Debian" [High,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65253
[11:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65264 in update-manager (main) "Dapper-Edgy upgrade: three packages are still from dapper" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65264
[11:15] <predius> dholbach: k, will do.
[11:16] <predius> dholbach: one extra thing, is the qa group open for everyone to join?
[11:17] <dholbach> predius_: sfllaw checks people's work on bugs more throgoughly
[11:18] <dholbach> predius_: as you can set milestone bugs, importance, etc when you joined the team
[11:18] <predius_> so, first work on bugs, then join?
[11:18] <dholbach> that's better, yes
[11:19] <xerxas> what do yo people think of this one : bug #895
[11:19] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 895 in sawfish "loading sawfish from gdm" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/895
[11:19] <xerxas> Adding /usr/share/xsessions/sawfish.desktop with the following content can help
[11:19] <xerxas> in  /usr/share/xsessions/ we have a gnome.desktop
[11:28] <pepsiman> sawfish isn't a session, it's a window manager
[11:41] <xerxas> pepsiman,  so this bug can be rejected ?
[11:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65266 in php4 (universe) "[UVF Exception]  Sync php4 4.4.4 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65266
[11:53] <pepsiman> xerxas: It would be nice to be able to select window managers...  I'm sure I've seen a discussion of this on debian-devel
[11:53] <xerxas> pepsiman, choose window manager for gnome ?
[11:54] <pepsiman> any window manager
[11:54] <pepsiman> windowmaker, fvwm,...
[11:55] <xerxas> for gnome ?
[11:55] <xerxas> or show that in gdm ?
[11:55] <pepsiman> in gdm
[12:00] <seb128> pepsiman: there is a gconf key to select your wm
[12:01] <seb128> the wm is not something you want to get clutering the gdm menu imho
[12:02] <pepsiman> seb128: yes, adding all WMs to the session list would be clutter
[12:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65269 in openoffice.org (main) "Missing item for ooo-draw in the GNOME applications menu" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65269
[12:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65268 in apt (main) "x.org not including the shared memory config for ksynaptics" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65268
[12:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65270 in Ubuntu "problems with Xorg on a intel t7200 working in 64 bits + nvidia 7800 GO in EDGY" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65270
[12:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65271 in bluez-hcidump (main) "UVF: bluez-hcidump 1.31 -> 1.32" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65271
[12:06] <pepsiman> http://www.linuxarkivet.se/mlists/debian-devel/0101/msg02314.html
[12:08] <Hobbsee> hey dholbach
[12:08] <dholbach> heya Hobbsee
[12:08] <dholbach> hey finalbeta
[12:08] <dholbach> happy hug day to you
[12:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65272 in ubiquity (main) "Installer Crash During the hardware configuration at 92%" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65272
[12:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65274 in gnome-hearts (universe) "Hearts crashes on startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65274
[12:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65279 in vnc4 (universe) "vncstartup launches twm which might not be around" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65279
[12:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65280 in terminal (universe) "[Edgy]  Please remove terminal (got renamed to terminal.app)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65280
[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65282 in bigloo (universe) "not installable in edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65282
[12:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65281 in Ubuntu "[edgy]  Failure trying to run: chroot /target dpkg ..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65281
[12:36] <Hobbsee> dholbach: none.  i'm being lazy.
[12:36] <dholbach> Hobbsee: lazy? how comes?
[12:36] <pepsiman> dholbach: none.  I have a day job
[12:37] <Hobbsee> dholbach: due to not working on any bugs.
[12:37] <Hobbsee> dholbach: and because i stupidly got involved in the forum integration thing, have got responses back, and so am really unmotivated to do much of ubuntu-type stuff.
[12:38] <dholbach> Hobbsee: what is the forum integration going to be like?
[12:39] <Hobbsee> dholbach: no idea.  what the forum users basically say is "this needs to be fixed, why dont we integrate everything into the forums" - well, some are, anyway
[12:39] <Hobbsee> and it's all just really split and really messy, and it's going to require a lot of work to get beyond it being an "us and them" situation.
[12:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65283 in apport (main) "Make application -dbgsym packages Recommend: depended libraries" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65283
[12:40] <dholbach> I never looked much into the forums myself :/
[12:40] <Hobbsee> dholbach: very wise.
[12:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65284 in ktrack (universe) "Ktrack crashes on startup - SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65284
[12:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65285 in ekiga (main) "Hangs after first-run wizard" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65285
[12:50] <pepsiman> What to do with bug 64808 ? memprof was removed from Debian
[12:50] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 64808 in memprof "the current version of memprof (5.1) is known to be buggy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64808
[01:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65288 in notecase (universe) "[Edgy]  Segmentation fault in NoteCase" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65288
[01:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65289 in skribe (universe) "not installable, not buildable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65289
[01:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65290 in spamassassin (universe) "Dependency on libsys-hostname-long-perl missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65290
[01:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65291 in Ubuntu "[edgy]  When onBoard Sound is disabled in BIOS, it's still available in edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65291
[01:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65292 in bigloo (universe) "FTBS" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65292
[01:30] <jonh_wendell> seb128: are you there?
[01:31] <seb128> jonh_wendell: hi
[01:32] <jonh_wendell> seb128: i'd like to contribute (more) to ubuntu by triaging bugs, forwarding them to gnome's bugzilla, etc..
[01:32] <jonh_wendell> how can i do that?
[01:32] <seb128> ROCK ON
[01:33] <seb128> pick any bug not triaged on launchpad
[01:33] <seb128> comment on it, ask for informations if required
[01:33] <seb128> if that's a GNOME bug look if there is already a bugzilla bug about it, if not open one (mention the Ubuntu bug and open an ubuntu task to the bugzilla bug)
[01:33] <seb128> if you have any question ask on this chan
[01:34] <jonh_wendell> right
[01:36] <jonh_wendell> can i change the 'importance' field? i guess no.... does it matter?
[01:39] <jonh_wendell> seb128: how can i forward a bug to tsclient package? its homepage doesn't have a bugtracker, svn... i tried to mail the author, but so far i got no response
[01:39] <jonh_wendell> seb128: how can i forward a bug to tsclient package? its homepage doesn't have a bugtracker, svn... i tried to mail the author, but so far i got no response
[01:39] <seb128> I've no idea, sorry
[01:40] <seb128> not a lot to do for forward when upstream is not responsive :/
[01:40] <seb128> jonh_wendell: you need to be ubuntu-qa member to change the importance field, dholbach or sfllaw should be able to accept you to the team if you apply on launchpad
[01:42] <xeros> hi, do you know about firefox 1.99-
[01:42] <xeros> ups...
[01:42] <jonh_wendell> seb128: what do you mean 'apply on launchpad'? :)
[01:42] <xeros> firefox 2.0rc2 has bug 14911
[01:42] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 14911 in firefox "Flash plugin problem with ARGB visuals causes crash" [Unknown,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/14911
[01:43] <xeros> firefox 1.99+2.0rc2+dfsg-0ubuntu1 edgy package
[01:44] <seb128> jonh_wendell: https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-qa/+join
[01:45] <jonh_wendell> seb128: i am a proposed member since yesterday :)
[01:45] <seb128> ah, k
[01:45] <seb128> so ping sfllaw or dholbach when they will be around to be accepted ;)
[01:47] <jonh_wendell> seb128: ok
[01:47] <seb128> jonh_wendell: feel free to start triaging without that ;)
[01:47] <jonh_wendell> seb128: of course!
[01:50] <seb128> lunch time, bbl
[01:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65293 in aptitude (main) "doesn't fail when trying to install a pattern but some items fail to install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65293
[01:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65294 in base-installer (main) "retry debootstrap from network if retrieval from CD fails" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65294
[01:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65295 in rhythmbox (main) "Man page is out-of-date" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65295
[02:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65297 in casper (main) "change gnopernicus -> orca and gok -> onboard in script" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65297
[02:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65298 in semantic (universe) "Fail to build with emacs-snapshot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65298
[02:19] <xerxas> seb128,  you here ?
[02:20] <xerxas> can I change a status or a priority within gnome's bugzilla
[02:20] <xerxas> or I need a special status ?
[02:20] <xerxas> (off topic, but these are upstream watchers)
[02:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65299 in apt (main) "Wireless networking does not come back up after suspend/resume" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65299
[02:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65300 in Ubuntu "Problem during installation when wireless network device enabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65300
[02:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65301 in kdebase (main) "kdebase-data contains non-free firefox icon/logo" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65301
[02:21] <xerxas> guys, if a bug is confirmed in an upstream tracker, can it be confirmed in malone ?
[02:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65302 in libqt-ruby-qt4 (universe) "Package does not contain the rbrcc tool" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65302
[02:48] <pirast> we have to fix bug 65282 for edgy...
[02:48] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 65282 in bigloo "not installable in edgy" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65282
[02:49] <pirast> and it is very weird, there are circular dependancies...
[02:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65303 in Ubuntu "Upgrade to edgy unusable with AMD64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65303
[02:59] <Hobbsee> pirast: it appears that there's a later version in debian unstable.  does that build in ubuntu?
[03:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65304 in xfsprogs (main) "Mistake in xfsprogs string - 'prefered'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65304
[03:01] <Hobbsee> pirast: right....debian has fixed it.
[03:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65305 in libmodplug (main) "Old version" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65305
[03:10] <profoX`> I have a big problem (as you can see here https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/courier-authlib/+bug/64615) is there a way to let me do an apt-get upgrade or anything.. it always shows an error no matter what I try with dpkg or apt-get
[03:10] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 64615 in courier-authlib "apt-get broken after upgrade to edgy eft (courier-authdaemon package)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[03:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65306 in Ubuntu "When doing graphical shutdown my screen falshes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65306
[03:12] <sfllaw> Happy Hug Day!
[03:22] <jonh_wendell> sfllaw: can you help me on a triage?
[03:23] <pirast> Hobbsee, I will investigate.
[03:28] <Hobbsee> pirast: i'm just filing a sync request for it now.
[03:28] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65287 in Ubuntu "Weird display after update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65287
[03:28] <pirast> okay, thanks..
[03:28] <pirast> please subscribe me
[03:28] <Hobbsee> dholbach: sync requests to fix multiple bugs including ftbfs's are usually approved, arent they?
[03:29] <seb128> xerxas: pong
[03:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65308 in avahi (main) "Automatic Service Discovery-Button in the network-admin can't be set" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65308
[03:30] <jonh_wendell> seb128: can you help me on a triage?
[03:31] <jonh_wendell> seb128: see bug 65295
[03:31] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 65295 in rhythmbox "Man page is out-of-date" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65295
[03:32] <seb128> jonh_wendell: the manpage is Debian,Ubuntu specific
[03:32] <dholbach> Hobbsee: if it's obvious that it only makes sense and would hold up business, I suggest asking a member of the team - we didn't make a big deal about security bugs for example
[03:32] <dholbach> Hobbsee: but better to ask
[03:32] <jonh_wendell> seb128: i've submit a new bug on gnome's bugzilla, but i got response that man page is part of ubuntu diff
[03:32] <jonh_wendell> seb128: what do i do now?
[03:32] <seb128> jonh_wendell: which is correct
[03:32] <seb128> jonh_wendell: you close upstream bug as NOTGNOME :p
[03:33] <Hobbsee> dholbach: er, i thought you were a member...
[03:33] <dholbach> Hobbsee: I am
[03:33] <jonh_wendell> seb128: done
[03:33] <jonh_wendell> seb128: how about fix the bug?
[03:33] <seb128> jonh_wendell: you can attach the manpage to the bug or opena new one with it in case they want to use it
[03:34] <seb128> jonh_wendell: your patch is welcome if you want to do one
[03:34] <seb128> jonh_wendell: for my part I've other bugs to fix before going to manpages updates
[03:34] <jonh_wendell> seb128: i'd love to do that, but how can i edit man pages? with vi? :)
[03:34] <seb128> yep
[03:34] <seb128> whatever editor you want
[03:35] <jonh_wendell> seb128: the file is full of codes... arghhh :)
[03:35] <seb128> there is a syntax, should not be too hard to figure how it's done by copying part of the existant one
[03:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65309 in bigloo (universe) "Please sync bigloo (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65309
[03:35] <jonh_wendell> seb128: should i attach the patch in that bug?
[03:35] <seb128> yep, please
[03:36] <jonh_wendell> seb128: and you commit it into ubuntu package, right?
[03:36] <seb128> correct
[03:38] <jonh_wendell> seb128: should i send the entire file rhythmbox.1 or just the diff?
[03:38] <seb128> the diff is better
[03:38] <seb128> diff -u format
[03:38] <jonh_wendell> seb128: ok, thanks
[03:38] <seb128> thank *you* for working on that
[03:41] <Hobbsee> pirast: what's your LP id?
[03:42] <pirast> Hobbsee: it's pirast but I already subscribed me :-) thanks anyway :-)
[03:42] <Hobbsee> oh cool
[03:43] <Hobbsee> hmmm...interesting.
[03:45] <Hobbsee> skribe ftbfs anyway
[03:46] <Hobbsee> dholbach: can you ack https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/bigloo/+bug/65309 please?
[03:46] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 65309 in bigloo "Please sync bigloo (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] 
[03:47] <dholbach> Hobbsee: looking
[03:47] <Hobbsee> that last bug may need fixing a little harder - but that sync is required first, anyway
[03:48] <dholbach> Hobbsee: will you take care of the rdepends?
[03:48] <dholbach> it mentions a soname change
[03:48] <Hobbsee> dholbach: do i check the rdepends on all the binary packages?
[03:48] <Hobbsee> or is there some way to automate that?
[03:49] <dholbach> do a diff of the two debian/control files
[03:49] <dholbach> then you'll see which package changed
[03:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65311 in terminal.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  terminal.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65311
[03:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65312 in zope-photo (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  zope-photo has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65312
[03:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65313 in libxmlada1 (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  libxmlada1 has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65313
[03:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65314 in lablgtksourceview (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  lablgtksourceview has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65314
[03:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65315 in gnuradio-examples (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  gnuradio-examples has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65315
[03:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65316 in asterisk-oh323 (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  asterisk-oh323 has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65316
[03:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65317 in libsdl-ruby (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  libsdl-ruby has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65317
[03:51] <pirast> lol
[03:51] <Hobbsee> dholbach: hmm.  seems that nothing acutally rdepends on it, as it's not been installable for a while anyway.  surely i should see skribe currently wanting to depend on it?
[03:51] <dholbach> Hobbsee: I see
[03:51] <Hobbsee> dholbach: oh, wait.  everything seems to be depending on libbigloo2.7a anyway - which doesnt even exist anymore.  yet i cant seem to get an rdepends list on that one, as it's not in the archives.
[03:51] <dholbach> Hobbsee: well I'll assign all the mess that this is going to create to you :-)
[03:52] <Hobbsee> dholbach: sounds good to me.  i'd prefer a mostly working mess to a completely *non* workign mess.
[03:52] <Hobbsee> i mean, it's completely unusable in current state anyway.  ditto anything that depends on it.
[03:53] <tepsipakki> I guess it isn't much good to include a pbuilder log from dapper, when I'm trying to get UVFe for edgy?-)
[03:53] <Hobbsee> dholbach: what's afile?
[03:53] <Hobbsee> tepsipakki: hehe.  true that :)
[03:53] <dholbach> Hobbsee: um
[03:53] <dholbach> Hobbsee: what do you mean?
[03:53] <Hobbsee> The build from source also fails, initially because `afile'
[03:53] <Hobbsee> is missing.
[03:53] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65310 in plopfolio.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  plopfolio.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65310
[03:53] <Hobbsee> dholbach: looks like it fails during debian/rules.  grabbing a log
[03:54] <dholbach> Hobbsee: enjoy
[03:54] <Hobbsee> # Add here commands to compile the package.
[03:54] <Hobbsee> /usr/bin/make
[03:54] <Hobbsee> make[1] : Entering directory `/tmp/buildd/skribe-1.2d'
[03:54] <Hobbsee> (cd src/bigloo && /usr/bin/make)
[03:54] <Hobbsee> make[2] : Entering directory `/tmp/buildd/skribe-1.2d/src/bigloo'
[03:54] <Hobbsee> mkdir -p /tmp/buildd/skribe-1.2d/etc/bigloo/../../bin
[03:54] <Hobbsee> make[2] : afile: Command not found
[03:54] <Hobbsee> dholbach: ^
[03:56] <dholbach> usr/bin/afile						    interpreters/bigloo,net/netatalk
[03:56] <dholbach> http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=afile&searchmode=searchword&case=insensitive&version=stable&arch=i386
[03:56] <Hobbsee> ahhh...it's in debian
[03:56] <Hobbsee> debian 379202
[03:56] <Ubugtu> Debian bug 379202 in skribe "skribe - FTBFS: afile: Command not found" [Serious,Open]  http://bugs.debian.org/379202
[03:56] <dholbach> in ubuntu too
[03:56] <Hobbsee> then there are more problems :P
[03:56] <dholbach> apt-file afile | grep bin
[03:56] <dholbach> bigloo: usr/bin/afile
[03:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65477 in lynkeos.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  lynkeos.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65477
[03:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65478 in scim-uim (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  scim-uim has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65478
[03:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65482 in psycopg (main) "[UNMETDEPS]  psycopg has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65482
[03:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65485 in zope-cmfmember (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  zope-cmfmember has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65485
[03:57] <secretlondon> hi
[03:57] <Hobbsee> dholbach: lovely.  see the end of that debian bug report.  looks like it's not ported to the bigloo 2.8 code yet.
[03:57] <Hobbsee> hey secretlondon
[03:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65464 in pyx (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  pyx has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65464
[03:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65467 in mozilla-locale-zh-tw (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  mozilla-locale-zh-tw has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65467
[03:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65469 in sip-qt3 (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  sip-qt3 has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65469
[03:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65471 in moin1.3 (main) "[UNMETDEPS]  moin1.3 has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65471
[03:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65472 in lablgtkmathview (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  lablgtkmathview has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65472
[03:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65473 in price.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  price.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65473
[03:58] <Hobbsee> not much point having it in the archive then, really
[03:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65474 in squishdot (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  squishdot has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65474
[03:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65475 in galago-gtk-python (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  galago-gtk-python has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65475
[03:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65476 in octaviz (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  octaviz has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65476
[03:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65479 in tulip (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  tulip has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65479
[03:58] <dholbach> Hobbsee: urg
[03:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65480 in textedit.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  textedit.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65480
[03:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65481 in innerspace.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  innerspace.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65481
[03:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65483 in enigmail-locales (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  enigmail-locales has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65483
[03:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65484 in lodju (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  lodju has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65484
[03:58] <pirast> lol.
[03:58] <Hobbsee> and please tell me that we have a list of these to work on - some way of searching thru them
[03:58] <secretlondon> eew
[03:58] <dholbach> search for UNMETDEPS
[03:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65465 in python-imdbpy (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  python-imdbpy has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65465
[03:58] <Hobbsee> yeah
[03:59] <secretlondon> ooh double hug!
[04:00] <Hobbsee> dholbach: http://tinyurl.com/n8g6a looks good?
[04:02] <dholbach> Hobbsee: rock
[04:02] <Hobbsee> dholbach: :)
[04:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65437 in helpviewer.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  helpviewer.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65437
[04:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65439 in user-he (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  user-he has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65439
[04:03] <secretlondon> Hobbsee - what do we do with them now - is that up to people with upload privs?
[04:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65440 in kompile (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  kompile has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65440
[04:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65441 in pygopherd (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  pygopherd has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65441
[04:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65442 in jikes (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  jikes has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65442
[04:03] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: attach patches to them, and mark them as "in progress" or somethign  - and ask for someone to upload them, yeah
[04:03] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: but people without upload privs can certainly do debdiffs, so we can just grab them and upload.
[04:03] <Hobbsee> that takes a lot fo the work out
[04:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65424 in gdome2-xslt (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  gdome2-xslt has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65424
[04:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65426 in libadabindx (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  libadabindx has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65426
[04:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65427 in connect.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  connect.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65427
[04:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65428 in criawips (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  criawips has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65428
[04:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65429 in libihelp-ruby (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  libihelp-ruby has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65429
[04:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65430 in event-execflow (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  event-execflow has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65430
[04:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65431 in open.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  open.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65431
[04:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65433 in gcc-4.1 (main) "[UNMETDEPS]  gcc-4.1 has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65433
[04:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65434 in timemon.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  timemon.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65434
[04:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65435 in poe.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  poe.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65435
[04:04] <pirast> is he a bot?
[04:04] <dholbach> pirast: Ubugtu? yes
[04:04] <secretlondon> yes
[04:04] <pirast> nooo
[04:04] <seb128> pirast: it's mentionning all the bug opened on launchpad
[04:04] <pirast> sivan
[04:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65416 in gnumail (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  gnumail has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65416
[04:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65419 in lusernet.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  lusernet.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65419
[04:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65420 in zope-formulator (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  zope-formulator has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65420
[04:05] <pirast> is he? :-)
[04:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65421 in simpleui.bundle (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  simpleui.bundle has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65421
[04:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65422 in ajaxterm (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  ajaxterm has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65422
[04:05] <seb128> pirast: oh, no
[04:05] <Hobbsee> hey cool, i cracked a million karma :P
[04:05] <secretlondon> Hobbsee - I've not made a deb diff before so I'm not sure what use I'd be
[04:05] <tepsipakki> Hobbsee: congrats, I'm still under 200k :)
[04:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65411 in python-omniorb2 (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  python-omniorb2 has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65411
[04:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65412 in gtk+2.0-directfb (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  gtk+2.0-directfb has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65412
[04:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65418 in supertransball2 (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  supertransball2 has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65418
[04:06] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: even if you could list what the build dep/dep should be, and what it is, that'd be helpful
[04:06] <dholbach> sivan now gets karma for filing bugs :)
[04:06] <Hobbsee> secretlondon: do you package at all?
[04:06] <secretlondon> Hobbsee - ok, I'll start to go through them and comment.
[04:06] <secretlondon> Hobbsee - never tried but I should learn
[04:07] <Hobbsee> dholbach: hehe, true that
[04:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65407 in zope-exuserfolder (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  zope-exuserfolder has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65407
[04:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65410 in bluez-sdp (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  bluez-sdp has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65410
[04:08] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65409 in fox1.2 (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  fox1.2 has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65409
[04:08] <secretlondon> these are dapper and edgy?
[04:08] <tepsipakki> edgy
[04:08] <secretlondon> ok
[04:09] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65382 in gaim-librvp (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  gaim-librvp has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65382
[04:09] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65390 in pantomime1.2 (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  pantomime1.2 has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65390
[04:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65391 in zope-cmf1.5 (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  zope-cmf1.5 has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65391
[04:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65365 in gorm.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  gorm.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65365
[04:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65375 in renaissance (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  renaissance has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65375
[04:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65377 in zope-translationservice (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  zope-translationservice has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65377
[04:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65379 in mn-fit (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  mn-fit has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65379
[04:11] <secretlondon> it's picking up some that have one unmet dependency when it an either/or
[04:12] <Hobbsee> true
[04:12] <pirast> what to do with the gaim-* unmet deps?
[04:12] <Hobbsee> which should probably still be fixed
[04:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65361 in stepbill.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  stepbill.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65361
[04:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65366 in viewpdf.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  viewpdf.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65366
[04:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65368 in enigmail-mailnews (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  enigmail-mailnews has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65368
[04:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65370 in meta-xfce4 (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  meta-xfce4 has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65370
[04:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65397 in bonfire (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  bonfire has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65397
[04:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65399 in osgcal (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  osgcal has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65399
[04:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65401 in pugs (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  pugs has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65401
[04:12] <gnomefreak> slow down ubugtu
[04:12] <Hobbsee> pirast: check the plugin to see if it's compatible with 2.0.  if it isnt, like the libvrt one, then file a request for a removal - which i've done for that package already (there are 3, iirc)
[04:12] <Hobbsee> it usually tells you on their website
[04:13] <pirast> hobbsee, k
[04:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65352 in meta-ul (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  meta-ul has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65352
[04:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65354 in libgalago-gtk (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  libgalago-gtk has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65354
[04:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65355 in mines.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  mines.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65355
[04:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65356 in libgpiv (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  libgpiv has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65356
[04:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65357 in lapispuzzle.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  lapispuzzle.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65357
[04:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65358 in otags (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  otags has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65358
[04:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65359 in edenmath.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  edenmath.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65359
[04:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65400 in batmon.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  batmon.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65400
[04:14] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65341 in zope-stripogram (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  zope-stripogram has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65341
[04:14] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65344 in zope-quotafolder (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  zope-quotafolder has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65344
[04:14] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65346 in diacanvas2 (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  diacanvas2 has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65346
[04:14] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65348 in pantomime (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  pantomime has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65348
[04:14] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65349 in projectcenter.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  projectcenter.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65349
[04:14] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65350 in projectmanager.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  projectmanager.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65350
[04:14] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65351 in libbonobomm1.3 (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  libbonobomm1.3 has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65351
[04:14] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65353 in adasockets (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  adasockets has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65353
[04:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65336 in rsjog (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  rsjog has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65336
[04:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65339 in gnustep-examples (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  gnustep-examples has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65339
[04:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65326 in charmap.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  charmap.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65326
[04:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65327 in rssreader.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  rssreader.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65327
[04:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65329 in gnustep-dl2 (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  gnustep-dl2 has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65329
[04:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65332 in meta-gnustep (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  meta-gnustep has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65332
[04:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65333 in hat (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  hat has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65333
[04:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65334 in thai-system (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  thai-system has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65334
[04:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65335 in denyhosts (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  denyhosts has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65335
[04:17] <dholbach> hey lakin!
[04:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65319 in poppler (main) "[UNMETDEPS]  poppler has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65319
[04:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65320 in ladder.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  ladder.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65320
[04:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65321 in autoprofile (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  autoprofile has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65321
[04:17] <lakin> hi dholbach
[04:17] <lakin> How're you?
[04:17] <dholbach> fine - thanks
[04:17] <dholbach> Happy Hug Day!
[04:17] <dholbach> how are you?
[04:18] <lakin> Happy Hug Day.
[04:18] <lakin> I'm a bit frustrated.
[04:18] <secretlondon> got one that depends on virtual packages - looking at them I can't see that they aren't there - but I'm not sure how virtual packages work
[04:18] <dholbach> how comes?
[04:18] <lakin> I still can't track down the problem with nvidia triggered by the -xgl updates a few months ago.
[04:19] <dholbach> urg, yeah :-/
[04:19] <lakin> To get around it and get my machine at work usable, I installed the Nvidia driver using the Nvidia provided install package ... and then I don't reboot my machine, but everytime there is a kernel upgrade ... *boom*
[04:19] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65415 in atokx (multiverse) "[UNMETDEPS]  atokx has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65415
[04:19] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65417 in mknfonts.tool (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  mknfonts.tool has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65417
[04:19] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65423 in aptsh (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  aptsh has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65423
[04:19] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65425 in perl4caml (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  perl4caml has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65425
[04:19] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65432 in affiche (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  affiche has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65432
[04:19] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65436 in aboot (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  aboot has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65436
[04:19] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65438 in addresses-for-gnustep (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  addresses-for-gnustep has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65438
[04:19] <lakin> and I have to re-install the package again, which involves installing the kernel-headers for the newly installed kernel.
[04:19] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65443 in zope-zshell (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  zope-zshell has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65443
[04:19] <dholbach> :-(
[04:19] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65444 in shisen.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  shisen.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65444
[04:19] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65445 in ggz-grubby (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  ggz-grubby has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65445
[04:19] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65446 in preview.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  preview.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65446
[04:19] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65447 in brasero (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  brasero has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65447
[04:19] <gnomefreak> someone is on a unmet depends spree
[04:20] <dholbach> hello donatell0 - happy hug day!
 did flood :D
[04:20] <secretlondon> gnomefreak -sivan's got a script i think
[04:20] <gnomefreak> ah
[04:22] <GNAM> .
[04:22] <secretlondon> oh noes
[04:22] <lakin> dholbach: I'm also frustrated because My thesis is taking much longer than I expected.  And because of it, I have no free time to do the things I love doing, like Working with Ubuntu.
[04:23] <dholbach> lakin: good luck with it - keep up the good work!
[04:23] <dholbach> hey alex_muntada - happy hug day
[04:23] <lakin> thanks man.  You too.  Ubuntu rocks
[04:24] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65462 in gtamsanalyzer.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  gtamsanalyzer.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65462
[04:24] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65463 in caudium (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  caudium has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65463
[04:24] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65466 in displaycalibrator.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  displaycalibrator.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65466
[04:24] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65470 in talksoup.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  talksoup.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65470
[04:24] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65486 in Ubuntu "module order in dapper result in network problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65486
[04:24] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65487 in grub (main) "grub fill wrong number for s-ata harddisk in menu.lst file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65487
[04:24] <alex_muntada> happy hug day to everyone, let's get to work and see how can I help
[04:25] <alex_muntada> dholbach: thanks :)
[04:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65376 in pygsm (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  pygsm has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65376
[04:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65383 in lablgtk (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  lablgtk has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65383
[04:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65489 in gnome-terminal (main) "gnome-terminal locks up occasionally" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65489
[04:26] <Riddell> 5/win 59
[04:26] <Riddell> blah
[04:26] <donatell0> thanks dholbach - many hugs to you
[04:27] <Hobbsee> Riddell: heh.  try again :P
[04:27] <dholbach> so how's the hug day going for you guys?
[04:28] <CarlFK> starting at lp.com - what is the 'pattern' to click to report a bug on ubuntu ?
[04:28] <CarlFK> my random click links for 2 min till I find it can't be optimal :)
[04:28] <Hobbsee> !bug
[04:28] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/
[04:28] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65360 in libbonobouimm1.3 (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  libbonobouimm1.3 has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65360
[04:28] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65372 in zope-ttwtype (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  zope-ttwtype has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65372
[04:28] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65384 in zope-localizer (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  zope-localizer has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65384
[04:28] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65468 in gnome-chemistry-utils (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  gnome-chemistry-utils has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65468
[04:28] <Hobbsee> that one?
[04:29] <CarlFK> bugs?!
[04:29] <CarlFK> that works :)
[04:29] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65367 in mozilla-locale-it (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  mozilla-locale-it has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65367
[04:29] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65369 in zipper.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  zipper.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65369
[04:29] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65378 in mpdcon.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  mpdcon.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65378
[04:29] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65381 in volumecontrol.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  volumecontrol.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65381
[04:29] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65385 in gridlock.app (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  gridlock.app has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65385
[04:29] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65404 in terminal (universe) "[UNMETDEPS]  terminal has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65404
[04:30] <CarlFK> trying to get there from lp.com always thwarts me
[04:30] <CarlFK> # be given in either devfs or traditional non-devfs format.
[04:30] <CarlFK> which is hda and which is dev/discs/disc0/disc ?
[04:32] <cbx33> guys I just downloaded the current cd image....
[04:32] <CarlFK> me too!
[04:32] <cbx33> gconf is refusing to start on the live cd....
[04:32] <cbx33> is this known
[04:33] <cbx33> also I'm worried as it seems relaly really slow on the laptop I tried it one
[04:33] <CarlFK> oh, that image... I use the alt one
[04:33] <cbx33> to the extent that we couldn't install using the "Install" button
[04:33] <cbx33> the laptop isn't particularly bad
[04:33] <CarlFK> couldn't or got tired of waiting?
[04:33] <cbx33> got tired ;) - after 5 minutes and still nothing
[04:34] <cbx33> but then...it seemed to do it with dapper too..... - maybe these laptops are just rubbish
[04:34] <donatell0> which distro's packages is sivan talking about?
[04:36] <pirast> im going away now cya
[04:36] <CarlFK> cbx33: I can imagine a reasonable box having a poor CD/HD setup such that reading 600mb and writing 3gig? could take 20 min or so
[04:36] <cbx33> CarlFk, it couldn't even start the program
[04:36] <cbx33> we didn't even get that far
[04:36] <CarlFK> oh.. thats different :)
[04:38] <Hobbsee> dholbach: can i ask an idiot question?
[04:38] <dholbach> Hobbsee: you'll find you can ;-)
[04:38] <dholbach> Hobbsee: I mean... sure :-)
[04:38] <Hobbsee> ogra: :P
[04:39] <Hobbsee> dholbach: i've just uploaded somethign by accident to the ubuntu archives - can you guys nuke it on the server side?
[04:39] <dholbach> Hobbsee: surely ogra meant "ogra wakes up"
[04:39] <ogra> haha
[04:39] <dholbach> Hobbsee: keybuk, kamion and infinity probably can
[04:39] <dholbach> but they have to be quick to wrestle launchpad
[04:39] <cbx33> afternoon ogra
[04:40] <donatell0> new triager here! someone tell me what to do!
[04:40] <ogra> oh, ayes, that will require rubber gloves
[04:40] <dholbach> hey donatell0 - cool
[04:40] <Hobbsee> ogra: heh
[04:40] <Hobbsee> dholbach: right
[04:40] <dholbach> donatell0: did you have a look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs already?
[04:40] <donatell0> dholbach:  yes i did...
[04:41] <dholbach> donatell0: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay has a couple of tasks we're working on - if you want to just pick something or look at a bunch of bugs, just go ahead
[04:41] <dholbach> and don't hesitate to ask, if you find a problem
[04:41] <donatell0> ok i'm seeing that
[04:44] <dholbach> Ok cool
[04:44] <CarlFK> you can figure out how to get #65493 to ping Colin W  (I am 99% sure it is his problem, but want to play by the rules, which I am still unclear on )
[04:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65491 in python-fuse (universe) "python-fuse ignores mount options" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65491
[04:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65492 in pycocuma (universe) "PyCoCuMa application does not start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65492
[04:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65493 in partman (main) "preseed devfs notation doesn't work as advertised " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65493
[04:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65494 in praat (universe) "praat won't run when compiled from its source package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65494
[04:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65495 in linux-source-2.6.15 (main) "GNOME Art crashes with Ubuntu 6.10 'Edgy Eft' beta PPC64." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65495
[04:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65496 in amule (universe) "Amuled leaves zombie processes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65496
[05:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65497 in rssreader.app (universe) "UVF exception: rssreader.app" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65497
[05:00] <seb128> bug flood :/
[05:04] <Hobbsee> seb128: indeed.  get fixing.
[05:04] <Hobbsee> :P
[05:05] <seb128> what do you think I'm doing the whole day? :)
[05:05] <Hobbsee> seb128: paid bills and drunk beer, of course.
[05:06] <zul> seb128: yeah you slacker :)
[05:08] <dholbach> seems donnatell0 didn't feel like fixing/triaging bugs :/
[05:09] <seb128> or he crashed is IRC client while reproducing one? :p
[05:12] <bddebian> Boo
[05:13] <CarlFK> see what you did?
[05:15] <bddebian> :'-(
[05:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65499 in autofs (main) "Autofs gives spurious "No such file or directory" with lots of NFS mounts, breaking a typical use pattern" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65499
[05:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65503 in kftpgrabber (universe) "Crash after starting program." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65503
[05:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65504 in Ubuntu "boot crash on Toshiba laptop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65504
[05:36] <Kevc978> i have a small .patch to fix bug #39695, what do i do with it tho?
[05:36] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 39695 in gnome2-user-docs "shutdown applet setup instructions are wrong." [Medium,Fix committed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/39695
[05:36] <Kevc978> hrmm it just reported it
[05:36] <Kevc978> :P
[05:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65505 in xen-source-2.6.17 (universe) "Xen + LVM " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65505
[05:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65506 in gnome-applets (main) "cpufreq-applet does not display text if option is selected" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65506
[05:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65507 in gnome2-user-docs (main) "Upload #39695 Patch " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65507
[05:47] <dsas> Kevc978: There's no need to make a separate bug, it's easier if all of the files related to the bug are open together.
[05:48] <Kevc978> no problem i wasnt sure if it would update again showing patch
[05:48] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65508 in xorg (main) "X does not start on Rage Mobility (Mach64?)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65508
[05:49] <dsas> Kevc978: Yeah, just add a comment when you add a patch and it'll email all of the bugs subscribers.
[05:49] <Kevc978> cool, thanks
[05:50] <dsas> Kevc978: And of course change the status to In Progress or fix committed, (not sure which is right for this case) like you did on the original bug.
[05:52] <Kevc978> ok but stick to just the one bug report?
[05:53] <dsas> Kevc978: yeah
[05:53] <Kevc978> no problem, thanks dsas
[05:54] <dsas> Kevc978: If I wasn't around on IRC then I'd never have noticed that you'd created a patch. (I'm subscribed to that bug, but not to all bugs on that packages)
[05:55] <Kevc978> but if i put a comment on original bug, you would have picked it up then?
[05:56] <Kevc978> even if you werent subscribed i mean
[05:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65509 in deskbar-applet (main) "deskbar-applet -- file:/// urls opened in firefox instead of gnome-default-browser" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65509
[05:58] <dsas> Kevc978: Yeah, I get all comments on the original bug.
[05:59] <Kevc978> thats brill then :) ill start away on my next
[05:59] <dsas> Kevc978: Ok, thanks, happy bugging.
[06:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65510 in firefox (main) "Terminal Server Client Applet crashes upon add to panel in edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65510
[06:02] <Kevc978> hahaha
[06:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65511 in gnomebaker (universe) "importing m3u playlist fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65511
[06:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65512 in rhythmbox-applet (universe) "[edgy]  Stopping Rhythmbox makes the applet show wrong time" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65512
[06:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65513 in gnome-pilot (main) "Sync failes - Evolution/T5 - Ubuntu Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65513
[06:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65514 in connect-proxy (universe) "System->Preferences->NetworkProxy doesn't switch" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65514
[06:19] <dholbach> hey Kevc978 - welcome to the bugsquad
[06:19] <Kevc978> hi dholbach, thanks :-)
[06:22] <dholbach> hi j_ack
[06:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65517 in bluez-utils (main) "init.d/bluetooth config file prompts on upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65517
[06:26] <jonh_wendell> dholbach: can you accept me as member of ubuntu-qa team?
[06:27] <dholbach> jonh_wendell: I normally leave this to sfllaw
[06:27] <dholbach> sfllaw: ping
[06:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65516 in openoffice.org (main) "OpenOffice.org signing doesn't work / crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65516
[06:28] <sfllaw> dholbach: Pong.
[06:28] <sfllaw> jonh_wendell: Ah, I see now.
[06:28] <dholbach> Cool
[06:29] <sfllaw> dholbach: Sorry.  Looking at SRU stuff.
[06:29] <dholbach> sfllaw: no problem
[06:29] <jonh_wendell> sfllaw: i'd like to contribute [more]  to ubuntu by triaging bugs, understand?
[06:29] <sfllaw> jonh_wendell: Yay!
[06:29] <sfllaw> jonh_wendell: Three things:
[06:30] <sfllaw> 1) Have you done some triaging before?
[06:30] <sfllaw> 2) Are you familiar with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage
[06:30] <sfllaw> 3) Do you promise to be unfailingly polite?
[06:32] <jonh_wendell> sfllaw: 1) i started reporting bugs, later, sending bugs directly to upstream, and later just a few triages
[06:32] <jonh_wendell> sfllaw: 2) I'm reading it now, but some concepts i already knew
[06:33] <jonh_wendell> sfllaw: 3) sure!
[06:38] <sfllaw> jonh_wendell: By getting into ubuntu-qa, you will be able to set https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance, so please make sure you understand that.
[06:39] <jonh_wendell> sfllaw: yes, i've already read that document
[06:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65518 in adept (main) "missing apt settings for auto deleting old packages from cache" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65518
[06:47] <sfllaw> Sweet.
[06:48] <xav> bug 19524
[06:48] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 19524 in firefox "Firefox does not pay attention to GNOME DPI setting" [Unknown,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/19524
[06:48] <sfllaw> xav: Hmm?
[06:49] <xav> I don't understand last comment
[06:49] <sfllaw> From nicweb?
[06:49] <xav> yes, he doesn't give any information
[06:50] <sfllaw> Well, you can add a comment asking nicweb to provide more.  But he/she isn't subscribed...
[06:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65500 in ubiquity (main) "... Installer crashed" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65500
[06:50] <sfllaw> Anyway, a developer will look at the patch provided by upstream.
[06:51] <xav> sfllaw, it's already in for a while
[06:51] <xav> sfllaw, in my opinion, there isn't really a problem
[06:51] <xav> it's just up to ubuntu to choose which setting to use in firefox
[06:53] <xav> layout.css.dpi=-1 (default) or layout.css.dpi=0
[06:53] <xav> and this should matter only when using a dpi lower than 96
[06:53] <xav> nicweb didn't even say if he was using that
[06:53] <sfllaw> True.
[06:53] <sfllaw> We'll likely just go with whatever is in Firefox.
[06:54] <sfllaw> But it's up to iwj.
[06:54] <sfllaw> jonh_wendell: Cute kid.
[06:54] <xav> I think the way it is now is fine
[06:54] <sfllaw> xav: OK.  Thanks for your help.
[06:54] <xav> it's much better than it was before on dapper with firefox 1.5
[06:54] <sfllaw> Cool.
[06:54] <sfllaw> The bug probably comes from before we put in Bon Echo.
[06:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65519 in pybluez (universe) "UVF: pybluez: 0.7-3build1 -> 0.9.1-1" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65519
[06:56] <sfllaw> jonh_wendell: I don't see any bugs that you've triaged in https://launchpad.net/people/wendell/+assignedbugs
[06:56] <sfllaw> Do you have any examples?
[06:56] <jonh_wendell> sfllaw: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/tsclient/+bug/65510
[06:56] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 65510 in tsclient "Terminal Server Client Applet crashes upon add to panel in edgy" [Undecided,Needs info] 
[06:58] <jonh_wendell> sfllaw: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/65295
[06:58] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 65295 in rhythmbox "Man page is out-of-date" [Unknown,Unknown] 
[06:58] <sfllaw> jonh_wendell: Stylish.
[06:58] <jonh_wendell> sfllaw: in that last entry (#65295), i'm going to make the patch
[06:59] <sfllaw> Yay!
[07:00] <ivaldi> Hello. I cannot get Edgy to run, because of bug #58489. Will it be fixed in time for the Edgy release? I'm so sorry if it's a rude question to ask.
[07:00] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 58489 in linux-source-2.6.17 "Does not boot on HP dc7600 USDT (regression from dapper)" [Medium,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/58489
[07:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65520 in bluez-utils (main) "/etc/default/bluetooth not executable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65520
[07:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65521 in gnome-phone-manager (universe) "UVF gnome-phone-manager: 0.7 -> 0.8" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65521
[07:03] <sfllaw> ivaldi: Is this in the installer?
[07:03] <sfllaw> ivaldi: Or booting off the disk?
[07:03] <ivaldi> sfllaw: it's in the installer. I'm the guy who wrote the last comment there, Oskar Jnefors
[07:04] <sfllaw> So you can't even get the installer to boot?
[07:04] <sfllaw> The desktop CD.
[07:04] <ivaldi> precisely
[07:04] <sfllaw> Are those messages the complete story?
[07:04] <ivaldi> I've tried both the beta and the october 8 daily build
[07:04] <ivaldi> as far as I can tell, yes
[07:05] <sfllaw> I'm unsure if the BIOS Bug isn't something slightly unrelated.
[07:05] <sfllaw> It looks more like a SATA driver problem.
[07:05] <ivaldi> yeah, perhaps
[07:06] <ivaldi> but Dapper worked fine though
[07:07] <sfllaw> ivaldi: Would it be possible for you to attach a screenshot of the boot process?
[07:07] <sfllaw> Can you get to a prompt on the second virtual terminal?  Alt-F2.
[07:08] <ivaldi> yes, but I wrote the exact messages from the second virtual terminal in my comment
[07:08] <ivaldi> I can try it again though, and get a screenshot, if it would be of any help
[07:09] <sfllaw> Hmm.
[07:09] <sfllaw> I think the error message comes before what you've written down.
[07:09] <sfllaw> Like your SATA controller is unrecognized.
[07:10] <sfllaw> In the second virtual terminal, can you login?
[07:10] <sfllaw> One of the terminals should let you get in to a prompt by pressing Enter.
[07:10] <ivaldi> yeah, one of them threw me into busybox, or whatever it was called
[07:10] <sfllaw> Yeah.
[07:11] <ivaldi> Should I run some commands there to get some more info?
[07:12] <sfllaw> lspci | grep -i '\(ide\|ata\)'
[07:12] <sfllaw> dmesg | grep -i '\(ide\|ata\|hd\|scsi\)'
[07:13] <ivaldi> okay, will do
[07:13] <sfllaw> Thanks!
[07:13] <ivaldi> I'll  be back in a while
[07:13] <sfllaw> Understood.
[07:13] <sfllaw> Good luck!
[07:13] <ivaldi> I'm the one who should be thankful :)
[07:13] <sfllaw> Without your help, we wouldn't be able to find the problem.
[07:14] <jonh_wendell> open source is wonderful
[07:14] <ivaldi> :)
[07:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65522 in emacs-snapshot (universe) "feature request: backporting current edgy snapshot to dapper-backports" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65522
[07:29] <ivaldi> sfllaw: neither lspci nor dmesg was available
[07:29] <sfllaw> Oh dear.
[07:29] <sfllaw> I think /var/log/syslog might have given you dmesg output.
[07:29] <ivaldi> after the busybox info i got this message "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
[07:30] <ivaldi> sfllaw: I checked /var, but I only found a file called "lock" there
[07:30] <sfllaw> I see.
[07:31] <sfllaw> The computer probably didn't get around to getting enough disk.
[07:31] <sfllaw> Did you see anything about ATA, Serial ATA, IDE, hda, etc fly by?
[07:31] <ivaldi> I did see some sort of error message before the bios bug thing, but it flashed by for literally a tenth of a second
[07:31] <sfllaw> That's stuff about disk.
[07:32] <ivaldi> no, I just got a lot of messages about it not finding files, which must be because it can't mount a filesystem
[07:32] <ivaldi> the casper log was full of that
[07:32] <sfllaw> Hmm.
[07:33] <sfllaw> It's difficult to capture the kernel messages as they fly by without having them written to disk.
[07:33] <sfllaw> Have you noted which serial ATA controller you have in the bug report?
[07:34] <ivaldi> I think I'm using the one called ich8, or something similar. I think my motherboard has 2 sata controllers actually
[07:34] <sfllaw> You may want to find out which ATA controllers you have and note them down.
[07:34] <ivaldi> I'm by no means a hardware wiz, so I coulbe wrong
[07:34] <ivaldi> will du
[07:34] <ivaldi> will do*
[07:34] <sfllaw> lspci -vv
[07:34] <sfllaw> lspci -vvn
[07:35] <sfllaw> Please include those (from Dapper) as attachments to the bug in its webpage.
[07:35] <ivaldi> okay
[07:35] <sfllaw> Yay!
[07:35] <sfllaw> Thanks.
[07:35] <ivaldi> no problem :)
[07:37] <ivaldi> should I run those commands as sudo? because it says "
[07:37] <ivaldi> Capabilities: <available only to root>" in some places
[07:37] <sfllaw> Yes, please.
[07:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65524 in xmodmap (main) "[edgy]  can't type letters with acute accents (like , ) with german keyboard layout" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65524
[07:43] <ivaldi> sfllaw: done
[07:45] <sfllaw> Stellar.
[07:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65525 in kdenetwork (main) "kde-3.5.5 upgrade - kdenetwork/kopete Abhngigkeiten" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65525
[07:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65527 in linuxtv-dvb (universe) "Dvb usb key don't work anymore" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65527
[07:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65529 in Ubuntu "Booting the kernel: error messages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65529
[07:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65528 in nautilus (main) "[edgy]  Wrong icons - icons still in "progress" status, after a progress is done" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65528
[08:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65530 in xubuntu-meta (main) "[edgy]  xubuntu-desktop 2.17 dependency conflict" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65530
[08:06] <crimsun> bug 64968, 46314
[08:06] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 64968 in xserver-xorg-video-savage "missing build dependency on quilt" [Low,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64968
[08:06] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 46314 in linux-source-2.6.17 "[patch] [regression]  after recent update 3d acceleration with savage does not work" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/46314
[08:11] <alex_muntada> I've been triaging Uncorfirmed bugs and now I need a break
[08:11] <alex_muntada> see you later
[08:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65531 in gorm.app (universe) "UVF exception: gorm.app 1.0.8-2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65531
[08:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65532 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (restricted) "fglrx + nvidia + dualhead = impossible" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65532
[08:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65533 in dansguardian (universe) "dansguardian installation / configuration not user friendly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65533
[08:38] <ivaldi> sfllaw: I'm so sorry for wasting your time. It seems that the bug I'm having has recently been fixed. Bug #63516
[08:39] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 63516 in linux-source-2.6.17 "ICH8 doesn't work" [High,Fix committed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63516
[08:39] <sfllaw> ivaldi: Oh good.  Mark yours as a duplicate then.
[08:39] <ivaldi> I will download the latest daily build and try it
[08:39] <sfllaw> Thanks.
[08:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65534 in gnome-volume-manager (main) "gnome-volume-manager doesn't automount hfsplus cdroms" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65534
[08:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65535 in xen-3.0 (universe) "/usr/lib/xen/boot/hvmloader missing in recent update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65535
[08:41] <ivaldi> are you sure I'm having the same problem as the initial bug reporter then?
[08:43] <ivaldi> it seems probable actually, since his laptop uses the same sata controller
[08:46] <jonh_wendell> sfllaw: help me
[08:46] <sfllaw> jonh_wendell: OK.
[08:47] <jonh_wendell> sfllaw: trying to figure out the cause of bug 61666 (i've mailed the upstream author, but so far no response)
[08:47] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 61666 in tsclient "Error adding applet to panel" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/61666
[08:48] <jonh_wendell> sfllaw: i did an apt-get build and, with help of mariano_at_gnome, i just recompile it (regenerating configure by running ./autogen.sh)
[08:49] <jonh_wendell> sfllaw: and it worked fine
[08:49] <jonh_wendell> sfllaw: what should i do? I didn't modify any file
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65536 in Ubuntu "[Edgy]  last update broke some icons" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65536
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65537 in bluez-utils (main) "computer not visible to other devices" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65537
[08:51] <sfllaw> jonh_wendell: Can you reproduce it?
[08:51] <jonh_wendell> sfllaw: what do you mean? do you want to rebuild it too?
[08:52] <sfllaw> No, I mean can you cause it to crash when you try to add the tsapplet.
[08:53] <jonh_wendell> sfllaw: i just tried to add the applet to panel... Just this... and it crashed.
[08:54] <jonh_wendell> sfllaw: the error was in configure script. Regerenating it (./autogen.sh), the problem disapears
[08:54] <sfllaw> OK.
[08:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65538 in nautilus (main) "Nautilus: new file unfocuses while renaming" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65538
[08:56] <jonh_wendell> sfllaw: what should i do? I made another .deb, just for installing, but i have not modified any file to make a diff...
[08:56] <sfllaw> jonh_wendell: I'm confused as to why you compiled.
[08:56] <sfllaw> jonh_wendell: Could you give me some context?
[08:57] <jonh_wendell> sure:
[08:57] <jonh_wendell> the applet executable is /usr/lib/tsclient/tsclient-applet
[08:57] <jonh_wendell> when i run it from command line, nothing hapens
[08:57] <sfllaw> Right.  Same here.
[08:59] <jonh_wendell> with help from mariano (#gnome), we've discovered in the source code, file applet.c an #ifdef HAVE_GNOME in the beggining of file
[09:00] <jonh_wendell> for some reason, HAVE_GNOME was not being declared
[09:00] <jonh_wendell> he (mariano) discovered the problem in configure script
[09:00] <jonh_wendell> this script was not generated by autogen.sh
[09:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65539 in gnome-cups-manager (main) "gnome-cups-add doesn't check to see if a printer has already been added" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65539
[09:01] <jonh_wendell> so, just running autogen.sh fixes the configure script, that declares HAVE_GNOME
[09:01] <jonh_wendell> sfllaw: understand now?
[09:03] <sfllaw> Oh.
[09:03] <sfllaw> That makes total sense.
[09:03] <sfllaw> Yeah, install that and see if it works.
[09:03] <sfllaw> If it does, submit your patch to the bug report.
[09:03] <sfllaw> And claim your hugs.
[09:03] <sfllaw> :)
[09:04] <jonh_wendell> it worked. i've already installed it
[09:05] <jonh_wendell> but, what i don't understand is: how patch? what should i submit?
[09:06] <kristog> jonh_wendell: what do you mean with *how patch?*
[09:07] <jonh_wendell> kristog: what file (or diff) should i submit? i did not modify any file...
[09:07] <sfllaw> You will want the diff between the configure script that is in Edgy and the one that works.
[09:08] <kristog> sfllaw: i don't think so
[09:08] <kristog> in the bug report jonh_wendell should say that the configure script is not generated
[09:08] <kristog> by autogen.sh
[09:08] <kristog> but....
[09:09] <kristog> i guess it's not a good idea provide a patch for *generated* files
[09:09] <jonh_wendell> me too
[09:09] <sfllaw> Well...
[09:09] <sfllaw> Mention the fact that rerunning autogen.sh does the right thing.
[09:09] <kristog> sfllaw: yeah :)
[09:09] <sfllaw> But provide the patch some that someone reading it will see that it fixes the problem.
[09:10] <sfllaw> Bugs with patches attached are looked at soon, because there's a good chance that it's an easy fix.
[09:11] <jonh_wendell> a doubt: when i do that, who will look at the bug and apply the patch/regenerate the package?
[09:11] <sfllaw> Someone in Ubuntu Core Dev.
[09:12] <sfllaw> Probably dholbach or seb128.
[09:14] <jonh_wendell> should i assign the bug to someone?
[09:15] <sfllaw> Make it unassigned.
[09:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65540 in kdebase (main) "kdeprint make cupsd use all the system ressources" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65540
[09:17] <seb128> jonh_wendell: what bug is that?
[09:17] <jonh_wendell> seb128: bug 61666
[09:17] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 61666 in tsclient "Error adding applet to panel" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/61666
[09:19] <seb128> jonh_wendell: there is no patch on that bug
[09:20] <seb128> jonh_wendell: not sure what the question is
[09:20] <jonh_wendell> seb128: the question is: just regenerating configure script (by running autogen.sh) solves the problem
[09:20] <seb128> weird
[09:21] <jonh_wendell> seb128: yes, strange; the configure script is broken
[09:21] <seb128> how broken?
[09:22] <jonh_wendell> seb128: i wrote the hole story to sfllaw. can you see it above?
[09:24] <seb128> right
[09:24] <kristog> seb128: it needs to be regenerated..nothing else.
[09:24] <seb128> that's just stupid
[09:24] <jonh_wendell> seb128: hahaha
[09:25] <seb128> what is the point to ship an applet doing "int main(){return 0;}"
[09:25] <jonh_wendell> seb128: the problem was to figure out that stuff
[09:25] <seb128> they should not build it at all if GNOME is not defined
[09:25] <jonh_wendell> seb128: indeed
[09:25] <seb128> jonh_wendell: I'm having a look now, will let you know in a min
[09:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65541 in gnome-terminal (main) "Introduction to sudo on first use." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65541
[09:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65542 in linux-source-2.6.15 (main) "kernel BUG() triggered under high load" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65542
[09:38] <seb128> jonh_wendell: right, configure is bugged, do you want to attach a patch or should I just fix it and thank you in the changelog for pointing it :)
[09:39] <jonh_wendell> seb128: the second option :)
[09:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65545 in mono (main) "mono-hit crash on Gnome startup (beagle-helper)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65545
[09:40] <seb128> jonh_wendell: k, what is your name (for the changelog entry)?
[09:40] <jonh_wendell> seb128: Jonh Wendell
[09:40] <jonh_wendell> seb128: N before H
[09:40] <jonh_wendell> :D
[09:41] <seb128> :)
[09:41] <seb128> not usual
[09:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65543 in mutt (main) "mutt segfaults on any write operation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65543
[09:41] <seb128> I'll just copy from IRC anyway ;)
[09:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65544 in synaptic (main) "synaptic looses search results" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65544
[09:41] <jonh_wendell> seb128: actually it was a mistake from the person who write my documentation when i was born
[09:43] <seb128> oh
[09:43] <seb128> and it was not possible to change it after that or your parents just decided to let it like that?
[09:43] <seb128> makes you unique, which is something ;)
[09:45] <jonh_wendell> seb128: my parents choice...
[09:45] <seb128> ok, sorry for being curious, I'll stop there :p
[09:46] <jonh_wendell> :)
[09:46] <jonh_wendell> seb128: but what you said it's true. i'm unique :)
[09:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65546 in pan (main) "pan crashes while line wrapping" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65546
[09:51] <seb128> jonh_wendell: fixed packaged uploaded, thank you for spotting it just before the freeze ;)
[09:52] <jonh_wendell> seb128: there is another bug, trivial one
[09:52] <seb128> jonh_wendell: which one?
[09:52] <jonh_wendell> seb128: bug 59199
[09:52] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 59199 in tsclient "About window doesn't close" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/59199
[09:53] <seb128> hum
[09:53] <seb128> you should have pointed it before the upload, k, doing an another upload
[09:53] <ajmitch> morning all
[09:53] <seb128> any other fix you spotted for that package? ;)
[09:53] <seb128> hi ajmitch
[09:55] <jonh_wendell> seb128: sorry, i forgot it
[09:55] <seb128> np
[09:55] <jonh_wendell> seb128: no more bugs :)
[09:55] <seb128> jonh_wendell: do you have a patch for that one? ;)
[09:55] <jonh_wendell> seb128: not for now
[09:56] <jonh_wendell> seb128: perharps you want to look at bug 64206
[09:56] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 64206 in tsclient ""About"-window cannot be closed with "close" button" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64206
[09:57] <jonh_wendell> seb128: apparently is duplicate, but look at comments
[09:58] <jonh_wendell> seb128: there is a patch there
[09:58] <seb128> jonh_wendell: k, that's due to a change with GTK 2.10, it has been fixed for many desktop app, let me have a look if the patch is correct
[09:59] <nixternal> we need to look at 2 bughuggers a week...wednesday is the busiest day of the week for me...but i will get some after the bughugger is over with anywho ;)
[10:00] <nixternal> actually, a bughugger is in order for everyday of the year! ;)
[10:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65549 in audacity (universe) "No text in menus in audacity" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65549
[10:06] <jonh_wendell> seb128: if that patch is correct, should i set bug 59199 (older) as duplicate of 64206 (contains the patch)?
[10:06] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 59199 in tsclient "About window doesn't close" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/59199
[10:07] <seb128> jonh_wendell: yes please
[10:07] <jonh_wendell> seb128: the patch works?
[10:08] <seb128> jonh_wendell: yes
[10:08] <seb128> I will make it destroy the widget instead of hide it though
[10:09] <jonh_wendell> seb128: ok, 59199 is now duplicate of 64206
[10:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65550 in flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) "Error downloading flash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65550
[10:10] <jonh_wendell> a doubt: when you close 64206, will 59199 be closed too?
[10:11] <seb128> no
[10:11] <seb128> duplicate bugs are not listed as open
[10:11] <jonh_wendell> ok
[10:11] <seb128> so no need to close them
[10:12] <tepsipakki> uh, why is there a openssh-krb5 still in edgy?
[10:12] <tepsipakki> noticed the upload
[10:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65551 in Ubuntu "waste basket: not updated in real time" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65551
[10:16] <seb128> jonh_wendell: fix uploaded
[10:16] <jonh_wendell> seb128: great!!
[10:16] <seb128> jonh_wendell: thank you for pointing it :)
[10:16] <seb128> that is useful bug work ;)
[10:19] <jonh_wendell> seb128: i like to do it. i wish i work for canonical, work on ubuntu all the day!! :)
[10:21] <jonh_wendell> seb128: tsclient is a software i use a lot at my work
[10:22] <seb128> ah, cool
[10:22] <seb128> I was wondering if people use it :)
[10:22] <seb128> I've no real use for it myself
[10:22] <seb128> feel free to send any patch for it ;)
[10:24] <seb128> I try to :p
[10:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65552 in gparted (main) "usb-drive is automaticly remounted during format stopping gparted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65552
[10:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65553 in synaptic (main) "Synaptic Crashes on Kubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65553
[10:25] <mooey> there must be, its far to much bug work for one man alone >_>
[10:26] <mooey> if i find a bug thats probably not caused by ubuntu but is in a package distributed, should i file it in launchpad or file it upstream? (or both, and link?)
[10:27] <trappist> mooey: you mean if it's in an ubuntu package, but it's not ubuntu's fault?  or in some package not distributed by ubuntu at all?
[10:28] <mooey> its in abiword, but i dont see how it can be caused by ubuntu
[10:28] <mooey> i mean: its an abiword bug
[10:28] <mooey> but i dont know if its best to file it at lp, at abiword or both
[10:28] <seb128> upstream
[10:28] <seb128> and file it to lp too if you think we should fix it for edgy
[10:28] <seb128> or backport an upstream patch
[10:28] <seb128> or something like that
[10:29] <mooey> i think its a regression, i dont remember it being broken before
[10:29] <mooey> i'll file it in both, its quite a common action
[10:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65554 in php5 (main) "SOAP-calls don't work because of an incompatibility with libxml2-2.6.24" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65554
[10:37] <gnomefreak> tomorrow is rc freeze right?
[10:41] <seb128> gnomefreak: correct
[10:41] <tepsipakki> seb128: the "rhythmbox-ipod" spec is marked as deferred, when it actually is implemented already in dapper ;)
[10:42] <seb128> tepsipakki: sort of, there was no writting for dapper
[10:42] <tepsipakki> or is there more to it
[10:42] <tepsipakki> ah
[10:42] <tepsipakki> I haven't tried yet, but does it support synchronizing in edgy?
[10:42] <tepsipakki> to/from ipod
[10:44] <gnomefreak> seb128: ty
[10:45] <seb128> tepsipakki: no
[10:45] <seb128> tepsipakki: just dnd from and to it and playing and playlist listing
[10:45] <tepsipakki> ok
[10:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65555 in gstreamer (universe) "Errors in .movs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65555
[10:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65556 in thunar (main) "Xubuntu Edgy: wrong text on Bulk Rename" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65556
[10:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65557 in evolution (main) "Error while generating message list" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65557
[10:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65558 in firefox (main) "Customizing toolbars makes menu's unavailable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65558
[10:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65559 in monodevelop (universe) "Widgets now appearing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65559
[11:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65560 in xdg-utils (universe) "UVF xdg-utils: 1.0~rc1 -> 1.0" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65560
[11:03] <jonh_wendell> i'm going guys. see you!
[11:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65561 in Ubuntu "kickstart reboot directive not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65561
[11:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65562 in gaim-thinklight (universe) "[Sync]  Please sync gaim-thinklight" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65562
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65564 in supercollider (universe) "Supercollider should have a dependency on "make" if emacs is installed." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65564
[11:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65563 in firefox (main) "Buttons messed up in UI" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65563
[11:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65566 in abiword (main) "Adding image as type 'automatically detected' fails" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65566
[11:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65567 in pmk (universe) "pmk error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65567
[11:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65565 in gnomescan (universe) "UVF freeze exception 0.2.3 to 0.2.4" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65565
[11:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65569 in gaim-thinklight (universe) "[Rebuild]  Please rebuild gaim-thinklight" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65569
[11:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65568 in hplip (main) "Fails to print black 100% on HP DeskJet 5150 printer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65568
[11:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #65570 in update-manager (main) "bogus pluralization of singular nouns" [Low,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65570
[11:59] <seb128> pirast: how is bug #65569 different of bug #65338?
[11:59] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 65569 in gaim-thinklight "[Rebuild]  Please rebuild gaim-thinklight" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65569
[11:59] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 65338 in gaim-thinklight "[UNMETDEPS]  gaim-thinklight has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65338
[12:00] <pirast> seb128, i got to the conclusion that it would be better to have a seperate report for the archive admins to rebuild it.. in an other report it the title confused them
[12:01] <pirast> seb128, sorry when this was the wrong practise.
[12:01] <ajmitch> pirast: you can retitle a bug
[12:01] <seb128> and subscribe new people to it
[12:01] <seb128> and rebuild it not archive-admin job
[12:01] <seb128> we don't binNMU afaik
[12:01] <seb128> we reupload
[12:01] <pirast> okay.. sorry..
[12:02] <pirast> whose job is it then?
[12:02] <seb128> the maintainer one
[12:02] <seb128> any MOTU or main uploader
[12:03] <seb128> rebuild doesn't fix the issue