[05:29] <lguerra> @schedule bogota
[05:29] <Ubugtu> Schedule for America/Bogota: 11 Oct 15:00: Edubuntu | 12 Oct 10:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 17 Oct 07:00: Community Council | 18 Oct 07:00: Edubuntu | 19 Oct 18:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 24 Oct 15:00: Technical Board
[06:50] <Burgundavia> @now
[06:50] <Ubugtu> Current time in Etc/UTC: October 11 2006, 04:50:05 - Next meeting: Edubuntu in 15 hours 9 minutes
[06:52] <nixternal> @later
[07:07] <Hobbsee> @schedule sydney
[07:07] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Australia/Sydney: 12 Oct 06:00: Edubuntu | 13 Oct 01:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 17 Oct 22:00: Community Council | 18 Oct 22:00: Edubuntu | 20 Oct 09:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 25 Oct 06:00: Technical Board
[08:47] <nixternal> @schedule chicago
[08:47] <Ubugtu> Schedule for America/Chicago: 11 Oct 15:00: Edubuntu | 12 Oct 10:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 17 Oct 07:00: Community Council | 18 Oct 07:00: Edubuntu | 19 Oct 18:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 24 Oct 15:00: Technical Board
[08:53] <GNAM> @schedule rome
[08:53] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Europe/Rome: 11 Oct 22:00: Edubuntu | 12 Oct 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 17 Oct 14:00: Community Council | 18 Oct 14:00: Edubuntu | 20 Oct 01:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 24 Oct 22:00: Technical Board
[01:19] <jonathan1> @schedule
[01:19] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Etc/UTC: 11 Oct 20:00: Edubuntu | 12 Oct 15:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 17 Oct 12:00: Community Council | 18 Oct 12:00: Edubuntu | 19 Oct 23:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 24 Oct 20:00: Technical Board
[02:00] <flint> Good Morning from Vermont, USA, how is life in Edubuntuland?
[02:02] <flint> Damn, this morning-evening thing is beyond my capability... ah well!
[02:31] <jonathan1> lol @ flint
[04:06] <GNAM> @schedule rome
[04:06] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Europe/Rome: 11 Oct 22:00: Edubuntu | 12 Oct 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 17 Oct 14:00: Community Council | 18 Oct 14:00: Edubuntu | 20 Oct 01:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 24 Oct 22:00: Technical Board
[07:51] <Czubek> What was the command to check local time of meeting?
[07:52] <lamont> Czubek: TZ=UTC date
[09:46] <rejden> re
[09:47] <highvoltage> re the toner in the copy machine
[09:51] <nixternal> hola como esta usted?
[09:51] <nixternal> heh, wrong channel ;)
[09:51] <HedgeMage> nixternal: Hi, I'm good, and I don't speak spanish :P
[09:52] <nixternal> me either, but everyone in neighborHOOD does
[09:52] <HedgeMage> lol
[09:52] <nixternal> imbrandon is confused
[09:52] <HedgeMage> nixternal: I know just enough Latin to badly fake most Romance languages when called for.
[09:52] <nixternal> lol
[09:52] <nixternal> i still mess that up
[09:52] <nixternal> is there an agenda for this meeting btw?
[09:53] <HedgeMage> I think "tech update from ogra and any last minute stuff people decide to yap about" is the agenda ;)
[09:53] <nixternal> hehe good deal
[09:53] <lguerra> @schedule bogota
[09:53] <Ubugtu> Schedule for America/Bogota: Current meeting: Edubuntu | 12 Oct 10:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 17 Oct 07:00: Community Council | 17 Oct 10:00: LoCo | 18 Oct 07:00: Edubuntu | 19 Oct 18:00: Ubuntu Development Team
[09:55] <lguerra> hi all
[10:01] <highvoltage> moo
[10:01] <sbalneav> Foo!
[10:02] <highvoltage> why thank you, willvdl 
[10:02] <willvdl> sounds like you needed it
[10:03] <LaserJock> ogra: over here !
[10:03] <nixternal> hola compadres
[10:03] <pips1> ogra: come, come, ... put put!
[10:03] <ogra> heh, sorry everybody
[10:03] <nixternal> hehe
[10:03] <pips1> :)
[10:03] <ogra> well, not much from the tech side today, i fixed up syslogging, so the thin clients log to the servers logfiles, and extra for highvoltage ....
[10:03] <ogra> i added the IP to ldm's bottom bar ;)
[10:04] <cbx33> ogra: deja vu :p
[10:04] <highvoltage> ogra: *g*
[10:04] <ogra> (lazy copy/paste)
[10:04] <cbx33> you lazy ... never :p
[10:04] <highvoltage> pips1: ooh, glad you're here, after tech, etc we must talk to lguerra about spanish web stuff
[10:04] <cbx33> not tried edubuntu
[10:04] <pips1> highvoltage: oki
[10:04] <highvoltage> and RichEd sends apologies too, btw
[10:04] <cbx33> but ubuntu...I havn't been around a lottoday to ask about it
[10:04] <ogra> apart from that i was busy organizing the sponsorings for th ek12 guys, and make sure the CD size is fine ...
[10:04] <ogra> i havent tested any yet
[10:05] <willvdl> shall we begin?
[10:05] <ogra> cbx33, what did you find ? 
[10:05] <cbx33> well...gconfd fails
[10:05] <highvoltage> ouch
[10:05] <cbx33> on two machines I tried
[10:05] <grahamldlw> what happens in here?
[10:05] <cbx33> plus.....it seems.....very very slow
[10:05] <ogra> cbx33, edubuntu install ?
[10:05] <nixternal> grahamldlw: magic ;)
[10:05] <cbx33> no...ubuntu live...that's what I just said
[10:05] <ogra> the install CD `
[10:05] <ogra> ?
[10:05] <cbx33> I havn't tried edubuntu yet
[10:06] <cbx33> but I'm wondering if it'll have the same problems
[10:06] <ogra> szre it will, we use the same packages
[10:06] <ogra> *sure
[10:06] <cbx33> well...I'll grab one tomorrow...but I wouldhave said it WAS not ready for release....unless fixes have been made since then
[10:06] <pips1> cbx33: what version? beta / daily ?
[10:07] <ogra> but i'm not really worried about the liveCd
[10:07] <cbx33> it was the current as of 10am this mornin
[10:07] <ogra> they are a nice goodie ... 
[10:07] <cbx33> 09
[10:07] <cbx33> ogra: ok dude
[10:07] <ogra> RC freeze starts tomorrow ...
[10:08] <nixternal> when is RC?
[10:08] <ogra> it would be nice to get as much testing as possible before RC
[10:08] <nixternal> i thought it was tomorrow
[10:08] <ogra> nope, the freeze is tomorrow
[10:08] <ogra> then we'll prepare the isos ...
[10:08] <nixternal> whew...ok..that gives me some time to get release notes done
[10:08] <ogra> so during this time any testinstall is important ... 
[10:08] <cbx33> ogra: ok...I'll attempt to get an instlal done tonight on a VM
[10:09] <cbx33> I know you don;t like VM's much...but atm it's all I have
[10:09] <ogra> thats fine
[10:09] <nixternal> well, i have available machines here to install to and test
[10:09] <cbx33> nixternal: nice ;)
[10:09] <ogra> that would be very verys helpful
[10:09] <sbalneav> ogra: Want me to do another test install tonight off the daily builds?
[10:09] <nixternal> you need the latest live cd tested? or wait until freeze?
[10:10] <cbx33> I have one 86 machine I can test
[10:10] <ogra> pips1, saved our ass with a very early bugreport for beta ... else we wouldntz have had ppc and amd64 b
[10:10] <cbx33> well done pips1 \0/
[10:10] <ogra> sbalneav, well, it gets more intresting after/during the freeze than before
[10:10] <highvoltage> :)
[10:10] <nixternal> i just installed this week again...and i haven't run across one issue yet..granted i have been addicted to playing Tetravex..and I am happy to say I haven't seen a bug in it yet ;)
[10:11] <ogra> ok, so we are confident Tetravex is bugfree ... :)
[10:11] <cbx33> ah 11.1 is the latest...so it could be that gconfd issue is fixed
[10:11] <HedgeMage> lol ogra 
[10:11] <nixternal> haha yes
[10:11] <nixternal> and Samegnome
[10:11] <ogra> hmm ? 11.1 ?
[10:11] <HedgeMage> I'll make a point of installing TT's box tonight if I have time.
[10:11] <cbx33> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/
[10:11] <cbx33> yup
[10:12] <ogra> intresting
[10:12] <cbx33> I'm gonna have to nip off in a while....at inlaws....lisa and I went out for meal...not home yet ;)
[10:12] <cbx33> yes I was surprised not to find an 11
[10:12] <ogra> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-devel/2006-October/001805.html
[10:13] <ogra> ^^^ for willing testers
[10:13] <willvdl> cbx33 romantic devil, irc over dinner?
[10:13] <rodarvus> haha
[10:13] <cbx33> willvdl: hehe
[10:13] <pips1> so ogra, you are saying that we should start testing the current daily? or better wait and test the next daily (i.e. tomorrow)?
[10:13] <nixternal> awesome ogra, i will test it and follow that here within the next day or 2 and report back
[10:13] <ogra> i will spend most of the day with testing (and fixing the progressbar uglyness in the usplash theme)
[10:14] <HedgeMage> nixternal: heh I know the feeling
[10:14] <ogra> (tomorrow)
[10:14] <cbx33> ogra: yeh what happened with that
[10:14] <cbx33> I don;t like the pulse bar at the start of the live cd...
[10:14] <ogra> so it will get more urgent after the freeze started
[10:14] <HedgeMage> ogra: We could do serious usability testing -- I could let TT try to install it himself :P
[10:14] <cbx33> shows no indication of progress at all
[10:14] <pips1> ok, I'll test a amd64 install tomorrow, then
[10:14] <ogra> HedgeMage, does he know how to type his name ? 
[10:14] <cbx33> pips1: you got ppc too?
[10:14] <ogra> that and hitting enter a couple of times should do it ;)
[10:14] <pips1> yes, but I can only test live on that... :)
[10:15] <HedgeMage> ogra: no, hi just does "LLLLLLLLLL" (his first initial
[10:15] <cbx33> pips1: same here with amd64
[10:15] <HedgeMage> ogra: We'll have to work on the whole name :P
[10:15] <ogra> heh
[10:15] <ogra> ok, so much about testing
[10:15] <ogra> ....
[10:15] <cbx33> ogra: hehe
[10:15] <cbx33> so /me for i386 live and install
[10:16] <cbx33> pips1: for ppc live and amd64 install
[10:16] <Ropechoborra> Hi ubuntuers =P
[10:16] <cbx33> nixternal: what can you pledge?
[10:16] <pips1> and /me for amd64 install and ppc live
[10:16] <ogra> for mountainview i invited a real ldap hero ... matt oquist will join us there
[10:16] <nixternal> what do you need me to pledge?
[10:16] <highvoltage> oooh
[10:16] <cbx33> testing...
[10:16] <nixternal> as long as it isn't money ;)
[10:16] <cbx33> what hardware do you have available?
[10:16] <ogra> so i expect that we'll get the network authentication stuff done this time
[10:16] <nixternal> i am all i386 here
[10:16] <HedgeMage> You guys have extra fun for me ;)
[10:16] <highvoltage> ogra: please use your persuasive powers and get him involved in edubuntu :)
[10:16] <pips1> re network auth hurrraayyyy!!!!
[10:16] <cbx33> nixternal: ok....
[10:16] <ogra> highvoltage, working on it ;)
[10:17] <cbx33> ogra: are we still required to test all diferent types of install?
[10:17] <sbalneav> HedgeMage: When's the cutoff on handbook work?
[10:17] <highvoltage> :)
[10:17] <nixternal> standalone i can take care of, and i will attempt and ltsp setup
[10:17] <cbx33> ie free space / resize etc?
[10:17] <nixternal> i need to get my other server up and running
[10:17] <ogra> cbx33, https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Testing/Current will be the valid testplan for the RC 
[10:17] <HedgeMage> sbalneav: The very last minutte :P  We're hoping to get it up on lulu on the 25th, translations, if any, can follow after.  We're way behind mostly due to my personal emergencies :/
[10:17] <nixternal> there is a guy in my LUG that has a huge LTSP setup for his office right now
[10:17] <ogra> test what you like from the list ;)
[10:18] <HedgeMage> sbalneav: Right now we're just plugging away to get the most we can done as quickly as possible.
[10:18] <nixternal> he is idle 100% of the time here lately, and doesn't respond well to emails
[10:18] <ogra> guys
[10:18] <ogra> are we done with tech ? 
[10:18] <willvdl> quickie
[10:18] <highvoltage> ogra: it seems so
[10:18] <willvdl> one sec
[10:18] <ogra> so we can follow sbalneav and HedgeMage to the docs topic ? ;)
[10:18] <willvdl> language packs
[10:18] <HedgeMage> :)
[10:18] <cbx33> ogra: one more
[10:18] <willvdl> who is responsable upstream?
[10:18] <ogra> willvdl, what about them ? 
[10:19] <cbx33> are you going to change what cdimage we are testing?
[10:19] <cbx33> on the wiki
[10:19] <sbalneav> I have a mailing list problem to put on the table at the appropriate time :)
[10:19] <ogra> willvdl, define upstream here
[10:19] <ogra> for the language packs we are upstream 
[10:19] <willvdl> sorry, need to discuss language support with someone
[10:20] <ogra> willvdl, whats your concern with them ? 
[10:20] <highvoltage> willvdl: I'm working hard on local language support, so depending on for which area you need, I could share what I have
[10:20] <willvdl> no concern, got a possible opportunity for some folks to do some local language support
[10:20] <willvdl> and just need o figure out the best way for them given lack of bandwidth
[10:20] <highvoltage> willvdl: I'm re-building OOo for all the translate.org.za stuff, it's a bit schleppy, but worth while
[10:20] <ogra> some lang we dont have yewt ?
[10:21] <willvdl> then you are the guy I must speak to :)
[10:21] <willvdl> will call you tomorrow with details?
[10:21] <ogra> willvdl, contact carlos, he's responsible for the langpacks in ubuntu
[10:21] <cbx33> HedgeMage: did you see SCP docs?
[10:21] <willvdl> cool, thanks
[10:22] <highvoltage> willvdl: tomorrow is one of those 'meetings-all-day' days, but give me a call anyway :)
[10:22] <ogra> so seems cbx33 got us to the tech docs topic ;)
[10:22] <willvdl> email then
[10:22] <HedgeMage> cbx33: I've only had time to skim, but they look good from the glance I got :)
[10:22] <cbx33> HedgeMage: I created an images folder...is that ok?
[10:23] <HedgeMage> cbx33: I have no clue, nixternal is fixing our organization and some docbook problems for us... it'll end up where it belongs :)
[10:23] <cbx33> nixternal: is that ok :p
[10:23] <cbx33> hehe
[10:23] <nixternal> images is still there...i didn't have to mess with it
[10:23] <nixternal> it is good
[10:23] <nixternal> it may get moved around so it is setup for integration into the ubuntu doc repos eventually
[10:24] <nixternal> i recenly committed a huge chunk, so svn up
[10:24] <ogra> do we have a new firefox page already ? 
[10:24] <cbx33> nixternal: are we goign with jpeg or png?
[10:24] <nixternal> doesn't look like it ogra
[10:24] <highvoltage> hmm... jsgotango did it previously
[10:24] <cbx33> at the mo they are jpeg
[10:25] <cbx33> we need one of those soon
[10:25] <highvoltage> ogra: I don't believe so
[10:25] <nixternal> i would say png cbx33, but that is up to you all
[10:25] <cbx33> nixternal: I think it's better if we are uniform
[10:25] <ogra> cbx33, png's shrunk with pngcrush would be fine to keep the size small
[10:25] <cbx33> so all images are png
[10:25] <highvoltage> ogra: an updated one to the current one would suffice? or is there a whole whack of new stuff that's needed in there
[10:25] <nixternal> if you use png, just make sure you kill transparency just in case someone with MS decides to read the book ;)
[10:25] <HedgeMage> OK, sounds like PNG it is
[10:25] <nixternal> cbx33: png it is then ;)
[10:26] <ogra> highvoltage, worst case i'll change the release number on release day .... 
[10:26] <nixternal> thanks for pointing out the uniform thing ;)
[10:26] <ogra> and keep whats there
[10:26] <HedgeMage> :)
[10:26] <cbx33> pips1: are you taking care of the current edubuntu site now?
[10:26] <cbx33> nixternal: np
[10:26] <cbx33> I noticed that our site looks quite bad inIE
[10:26] <cbx33> because of transparent pngs
[10:26] <willvdl> urk
[10:26] <highvoltage> eek
[10:27] <pips1> cbx33: well, i'm admin, but I don't do anything content-wise
[10:27] <nixternal> i usually follow the KDE style guide for my images...i haven't used pngcrush yet, but i will look into it
[10:27] <pips1> currently, that is
[10:27] <highvoltage> cbx33: can you send me a screenshot?
[10:27] <ogra> cbx33, i thought there were hacks in place to avoid that
[10:27] <ogra> highvoltage, transparency is usually shown gray in IE
[10:27] <nixternal> IE doesn't support png transparency, and I haven't even gotten the hacks to work with it
[10:27] <pips1> cbx33: yeah, the transparent pngs don't work with MSIE (6)
[10:27] <ogra> but there are some simple workarounds for that
[10:28] <cbx33> well...I just think a lot of the people viewing our site are likely to be MS
[10:28] <lguerra> really the transparencies do not function, shown blue and white
[10:28] <cbx33> lisa pointed it out
[10:28] <cbx33> can we sort something out there?
[10:28] <highvoltage> cbx33: you're right, it should work for them
[10:28] <cbx33> it looks bad....
[10:28] <nixternal> ogra: what i do is convert my transparents to gif format (eww), and then in css i do _whatever {blah blah}  <- as using the _ directs it to IE6 and lower
[10:28] <highvoltage> I don't have access to IE, but we can get it sorted
[10:28] <cbx33> it is a nice slick design....ty highvoltage 
[10:28] <cbx33> but the rendering from IE lets it down
[10:29] <LaserJock> ok, hang on. Is the Edubuntu firefox page taken care of?
[10:29] <highvoltage> cbx33: I think it's time we update the theme anyway, make it a bit more slicker and sharper, and update it to edgy theming
[10:29] <ogra> nixternal, there are easier ways via a built in css function of IE ...
[10:29] <ogra> you just  need to call that from the sites css
[10:29] <highvoltage> there's always space for improvement :)
[10:29] <willvdl> content & structure, then look and feel?
[10:29] <nixternal> i have tried the transparency hacks w/o luck...i will look further into those
[10:30] <cbx33> highvoltage: well....thisis something Riched was talkign about
[10:30] <ogra> did we skip artwork and moved on to "Community & Documentation & Web" ?
[10:30] <ogra> seems like :)
[10:30] <nixternal> hehe, thats what it looks like
[10:30] <LaserJock> oh one tiny artwork thing
[10:30] <cbx33> shoot Laser
[10:30] <highvoltage> ogra: sorry, we're a bit all over the place tonight :)
[10:30] <ogra> did we have anything about artwork atm =?=
[10:31] <cbx33> um..I have a few things
[10:31] <cbx33> but only little
[10:31] <nixternal> 2 tiny artwork things, is Edubuntu going to have a glossy logo like the other 3 projects?
[10:31] <cbx33> AliasVegas ishere with me
[10:31] <ogra> highvoltage, well, we're two third through the agenda ;)
[10:31] <cbx33> we're sharing this computer
[10:31] <LaserJock> has anybody noticed that on the gnome splash screen, the icons override the cool text
[10:31] <ogra> ok, but LaserJock was first 
[10:31] <LaserJock> but there blank space on the right
[10:31] <ogra> right, i noticed that ...
[10:31] <cbx33> ok....want a rejig?
[10:32] <nixternal> am i missing something?
[10:32] <nixternal> oh ya
[10:32] <nixternal> mine loads so fast you can hardly notice it though
[10:32] <LaserJock> so either the icons need to move or the text
[10:32] <cbx33> icons can't move i don't believe
[10:32] <cbx33> not easily
[10:32] <LaserJock> that's what I figured
[10:32] <cbx33> and to keep consistency shouldn't imho
[10:32] <ogra> then a slight transparent bar should do
[10:32] <cbx33> aliasvegas has justsaid she's fine to adjust
[10:33] <ogra> ok :)
[10:33] <willvdl> urk, just noticed the blue in ie. must be tired
[10:33] <cbx33> can someone get me a screenshot of it loading?
[10:34] <willvdl> meaning?
[10:34] <cbx33> so we can get right on that when we get in?
[10:34] <cbx33> HedgeMage: do you have blurb yet...lisa just asked?
[10:36] <HedgeMage> cbx33: I'm sorry, I still need to type it up... did a last-minute rewrite... please tell her I apologize profusely and will try to hurry with it.
[10:37] <cbx33> no no it's ok
[10:37] <cbx33> just want to be able to get the artwork to you
[10:37] <HedgeMage> cool
[10:37] <ogra> http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/splash_loading.png
[10:37] <HedgeMage> :)
[10:37] <ogra> cbx33, ^^^
[10:37] <cbx33> thank ogra 
[10:37] <ogra> it loads two more
[10:38] <cbx33> does it?
[10:38] <cbx33> I never seen them
[10:38] <ogra> i think so
[10:38] <ogra> they are enabled by default in edubuntu ... you should
[10:38] <cbx33> ok
[10:39] <ogra> more artwork ?
[10:39] <cbx33> I have nothing
[10:39] <cbx33> well apart from
[10:39] <cbx33> soon we are hoping tostart recruiting for edgy + 1
[10:40] <ogra> nixternal, nobody made any glossy logos for edubuntu, so i guess no ...
[10:40] <nixternal> awww
[10:40] <nixternal> to bad i stink at inkscape ;)
[10:40] <ogra> its very likely it will look like whats you currently get
[10:40] <cbx33> if you know of anyone who could be interested in artowrk for edubuntu please get them to mail lisa directly;)
[10:40] <cbx33> nixternal: we had problems with artowrk this release....but that's all behind us now
[10:40] <cbx33> we're looking forward to next release
[10:40] <nixternal> ahhh
[10:40] <nixternal> ok..
[10:40] <cbx33> nixternal: there is no point going intodetails
[10:41] <nixternal> don't need to ;)
[10:41] <cbx33> suffice to say it will not happen again...and was out of our control
[10:41] <ogra> cbx33, the ubuntu-art mailinglist should still be the central point though ...
[10:41] <cbx33> ogra: ok
[10:41] <cbx33> I just worry at the moment of people having to join up to the mailing list just to register interest
[10:41] <ogra> i'm not opposing that people mial lisa ;) but discussions should take place there 
[10:41] <cbx33> they could talk to lisa first.....register intereste and she could direct them to the ML
[10:41] <sbalneav> Speaking of mailing lists....
[10:41] <cbx33> of course
[10:42] <ogra> sbalneav, shoot
[10:42] <cbx33> ogra: does that make sense?
[10:42] <ogra> cbx33, how she handles it is up to her :)
[10:42] <sbalneav> I've signed up to edubuntu-devel mailing list, but everytime I post, nothing ever gets through.
[10:42] <ogra> uuuhh, really ? 
[10:42] <sbalneav> yeah :(
[10:42] <sbalneav> Don't you love me anymore, ogra? :)
[10:43] <sbalneav> *sniff*
[10:43] <ogra> RichEd poked around the last days in the interface, but i dont think he just changes stuff
[10:43] <Burgwork> sbalneav: ogra hates Canadians ;)
[10:43] <nixternal> haha Burgwork, so do you ;)
[10:44] <nixternal> im moving to Alberta!  it is way to beautiful for me to miss out
[10:44] <ogra> sbalneav, i dont see you in the subscribers list
[10:44] <cbx33> ok Hawkwind 
[10:44] <Burgwork> nixternal: you are mad
[10:44] <cbx33> whoops
[10:44] <cbx33> HedgeMage: 
[10:44] <nixternal> lol
[10:44] <sbalneav> ?!
[10:45] <ogra> sbalneav, ah, hidden behind your name ... found you ...
[10:45] <sbalneav> I get the mails?  How could I get the mails if I wasn't subscribed? :)
[10:45] <sbalneav> ogra: Geez, I'm a big guy, hard to miss :)
[10:46] <ogra> hmm, looks all fine 
[10:46] <nixternal> sbalneav: is your sending address the same as what you signed up with? i had a similar issue when i took on the @ubuntu.com with ALL 100 mailing lists ;)
[10:46] <sbalneav> Wierd.
[10:46] <ogra> do you also send as sbalneav@ltsp.org ?
[10:46] <ogra> it will only accept the subscribed address
[10:46] <sbalneav> ogra: Ah!  No, I send as @legalaid.mb.ca
[10:46] <ogra> aha !
[10:46] <cbx33> heheh
[10:46] <nixternal> hehe, there you go ;)
[10:46] <cbx33> problem solved ;)
[10:46] <sbalneav> @ltsp.org is just an alias to @legalaid
[10:47] <sbalneav> ok, so I'll unsubscribe and re-subscribe as @legalaid.
[10:47] <ogra> just change your data 
[10:47] <ogra> no need to unsub
[10:47] <sbalneav> That'll work?  OK, I can do that.
[10:47] <sbalneav> \o/ for ogra
[10:47] <sbalneav> +1e8
[10:48] <ogra> ok, apart from management we have covered all topics i think
[10:48] <ogra> heh
[10:48] <cbx33> ok...i gotta dash can I show people this: https://launchpad.net/people/edubuntu-school-support/
[10:48] <cbx33> it was a group I started....notice we have a lot of members here...tiem to tap them me thinkgs ;)
[10:48] <ogra> well, there are some people
[10:49] <ogra> anyway, management ...
[10:49] <cbx33> yes but it's a start right ;)
[10:49] <HedgeMage> sbalneav: whatcha need?
[10:49] <cbx33> ok guys I'm gonna have to pop out...no body have any issues for me do they?
[10:49] <HedgeMage> oops, cbx33 whatcha need?
[10:49] <ogra> we'll have a bunch of k12 gusy sponsored for mountainview ...
[10:49] <ogra> *guys
[10:50] <ogra> additionally the ltsp core team will be there
[10:50] <cbx33> HedgeMage: sorry..was acking you
[10:50] <cbx33> right I'm off for a while
[10:50] <LaserJock> do we have plans of what to do with all these cool guys?
[10:50] <cbx33> see ya soon guys
[10:50] <HedgeMage> cbx33: ahh okay ttyl
[10:50] <ogra> apart from LaserJock no edubuntu specific people will come :/
[10:50] <LaserJock> :(
[10:50] <cbx33> :(
[10:50] <nixternal> i will be in school, if I can get at least 2 days off I will be there, but it just happens to fall during midterms
[10:51] <ogra> nixternal, would be cool to meet you :)
[10:51] <LaserJock> I won't even be there the full time
[10:51] <ogra> LaserJock, :(
[10:51] <nixternal> no it wouldn't ;)
[10:51] <nixternal> haha
[10:51] <sbalneav> I think I'm pretty much 1/2 ltsp and 1/2 Edubuntu now :)
[10:51] <LaserJock> I have a department presentation on that Tuesday
[10:51] <LaserJock> so I will be there Tuesday night
[10:51] <highvoltage> sbalneav: :-D
[10:52] <sbalneav> Say, when do I need to show up for my membership vote, BTW?
[10:53] <rodarvus> sbalneav, for ubuntu-devel?
[10:53] <ogra> the next EC meeting is on nov 1st ... 
[10:53] <rodarvus> about 24 hours ago :)
[10:53] <sbalneav> I beleive so, yes
[10:53] <highvoltage> rodarvus: for edubuntu membership
[10:53] <sbalneav> ?! 
[10:53] <ogra> rodarvus, no, for membership
[10:53] <rodarvus> oh, right.
[10:53] <sbalneav> OK, wrong then
[10:53] <ogra> nov 1st is a very bad date for a meeting
[10:53] <ogra> at least for sbalneav and me
[10:53] <ogra> we'll both be travelling
[10:54] <sbalneav> Meh, I'll get it eventually.
[10:54] <sbalneav> Not like I'm going anywhere :)
[10:54] <highvoltage> ogra: perhaps it would be best to move that a day later?
[10:54] <rodarvus> ogra, why not advance the EC meeting to next week, then?
[10:54] <ogra> we should probably consider making it a week earlier
[10:54] <highvoltage> ogra: what do you suggest?
[10:54] <highvoltage> ok
[10:54] <ogra> urgh
[10:54] <ogra> hmm
[10:54] <LaserJock> can't we do it now?
[10:54] <LaserJock> ;-)
[10:54] <rodarvus> *now*
[10:55] <ogra> that would be nov 25th
[10:55] <rodarvus> heh
[10:55] <sbalneav> changed my address.
[10:55] <ogra> one day before release ... i wont have slept 48h then 
[10:55] <rodarvus> LaserJock, next EC meeting is vote for new EC member (RichEd), isn't it?
[10:55] <ogra> rodarvus, right
[10:55] <rodarvus> or is it done business?
[10:55] <LaserJock> wasn't RichEd already approved
[10:55] <rodarvus> (I thought it needed 100% EC to be present)
[10:55] <highvoltage> yes, he was
[10:55] <ogra> well, we're 3 Ec members here, we have quorum
[10:55] <rodarvus> LaserJock wasn't here last EC meeting
[10:56] <ogra> right, RichEd wasnt approved as EC member
[10:56] <ogra> but as edubuntu member
[10:56] <LaserJock> right
[10:56] <rodarvus> jsgotangco is probably still without internet access
[10:56] <rodarvus> unfortunately
[10:56] <highvoltage> JaneW, myself and ogra voted in RichEd, as far as I remembered
[10:56] <sbalneav> Should I say a speech?
[10:56] <ogra> rodarvus, he's fine again since two days
[10:56] <highvoltage> oh yes, as edubuntu member, that's what I meant. sorry :)
[10:56] <rodarvus> oh, I lost that
[10:57] <ajmitch> rodarvus: jsgotangco is probably sleeping :)
[10:57] <rodarvus> ajmitch, sleeping is overrated
[10:57] <ogra> so what about next week ? 
[10:57] <highvoltage> +1
[10:57] <ogra> for the RichEd vote i'd like to have all EC members there
[10:57] <ogra> which is evil to LaserJock 
[10:57] <LaserJock> I'll manage
[10:57] <LaserJock> if it's important I'll get up :-)
[10:58] <rodarvus> maybe arrange a sensitive time for all EC members? (if there is such a thing :D )
[10:58] <ogra> so:
[10:58] <highvoltage> rodarvus: now /that/ is evil :)
[10:58] <ogra> ANYBODY APPLYING FOR MEMBERSHIP SHOW UP AT 12:00 UTC next wednesday .... HERE !
[10:58] <rodarvus> I mean, a time where everyone can be there without waking up at 3am
[10:59] <sbalneav> 12:00 utc here, gotcha
[10:59] <LaserJock> rodarvus: only 5 am for me :-)
[10:59] <rodarvus> bah, 5am is ok
[10:59] <ogra> rodarvus, we once had australians and people from the south american east coast ....
[11:00] <ogra> the plan was to have the meeitng times rotating like we do now to have covered both of that
[11:00] <rodarvus> *nod*
[11:00] <ogra> but the australians here get rare
[11:00] <ogra> as well as the east coast south americans ...
[11:01] <ogra> we could probably move the hours nearer together ... 
[11:01] <ogra> i.e. two hours later fro the early meeting would only be 7:00 am for LaserJock  ;)
[11:02] <LaserJock> wahoo
[11:02] <ogra> and i dont think it does any harm to move the other one two hours earlier then ...
[11:03] <ogra> but well, we should discuss that next week if the whole EC is there
[11:03] <ogra> any other business ?
[11:03] <sbalneav> Still at 12:00 utc, right?
[11:03] <ogra> yeah
[11:04] <sbalneav> Better have have monological than mononeucleosis.
[11:04] <nixternal> oh no
[11:04] <nixternal> i had the kissing disease in 8th grade
[11:04] <ogra> heh
[11:06] <ogra> well, going once 
[11:07] <ogra> going twice ....
[11:07] <ogra> adjourned ...
[11:07] <sbalneav> I'll have another beer, barkeep.
[11:07] <sbalneav> Oh, beat me to it
[11:07] <ogra> thanks everybody !
[11:14] <pips1> oops, I missed the end of the meeting :)
[11:15] <pips1> anyone still here?
[11:15] <pips1> highvoltage? you wanted to talk?