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[02:02] Damn, this morning-evening thing is beyond my capability... ah well! === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c58-107-63-201.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:31] lol @ flint === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === shawarma [n=sh@vega.linux2go.dk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D9082.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.231.224] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === GNAM [n=GNAM@82.52.235.199] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jenda_ [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [04:06] @schedule rome [04:06] Schedule for Europe/Rome: 11 Oct 22:00: Edubuntu | 12 Oct 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 17 Oct 14:00: Community Council | 18 Oct 14:00: Edubuntu | 20 Oct 01:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 24 Oct 22:00: Technical Board === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === jono [n=jono@88-107-14-218.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === lupine_85 [n=lupine@nick.lupine.me.uk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:Ubugtu] : Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 11 Oct 20:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 12 Oct 15:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 17 Oct 12:00 UTC: Community Council | 17 Oct 15:00 UTC: LoCo | 18 Oct 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 19 Oct 23:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mruiz [n=mruiz@www.3ie.cl] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mruiz [n=mruiz@www.3ie.cl] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Bytes!"] === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === dsas [n=dean@host-84-9-168-62.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === lbm [n=lbm@82.192.173.92] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === tkjacobsen [n=mash@kbhn-vbrg-sr0-vl202-036.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === tkjacobsen [n=mash@kbhn-vbrg-sr0-vl202-036.perspektivbredband.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === mruiz [n=mruiz@www.3ie.cl] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mruiz [n=mruiz@www.3ie.cl] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Bytes!"] === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === tomveens [n=tomveens@ztn-c-1566b.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i577B2F9F.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === tomveens [n=tomveens@ztn-c-1566b.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D9082.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Tonio__ [n=tonio@6.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.107.98] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === GNAM [n=GNAM@82.52.235.199] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Czubek [n=Damian@a228.t15.ds.pwr.wroc.pl] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === zorglu_ [n=zorglub@134.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === zorglu_ [n=zorglub@134.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Konversation] [07:51] What was the command to check local time of meeting? === corey [n=corey@d64-180-214-139.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [07:52] Czubek: TZ=UTC date === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === pips1 [n=philipp@116.187.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === xeros [i=xeros@fan194.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === HedgeMage [n=HedgeMag@ubuntu/member/hedgemage] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D9082.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === surge [n=jono@196.1.61.4] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === rejden [n=rejden@sativa.morph.sk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:46] re [09:47] re the toner in the copy machine === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:Ubugtu] : Current meeting: Edubuntu | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 12 Oct 15:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 17 Oct 12:00 UTC: Community Council | 17 Oct 15:00 UTC: LoCo | 18 Oct 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 19 Oct 23:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team [09:51] hola como esta usted? [09:51] heh, wrong channel ;) [09:51] nixternal: Hi, I'm good, and I don't speak spanish :P [09:52] me either, but everyone in neighborHOOD does [09:52] lol [09:52] imbrandon is confused [09:52] nixternal: I know just enough Latin to badly fake most Romance languages when called for. [09:52] lol [09:52] i still mess that up [09:52] is there an agenda for this meeting btw? [09:53] I think "tech update from ogra and any last minute stuff people decide to yap about" is the agenda ;) [09:53] hehe good deal === lguerra [i=lguerra@200.21.93.195] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:53] @schedule bogota [09:53] Schedule for America/Bogota: Current meeting: Edubuntu | 12 Oct 10:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 17 Oct 07:00: Community Council | 17 Oct 10:00: LoCo | 18 Oct 07:00: Edubuntu | 19 Oct 18:00: Ubuntu Development Team === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:55] hi all === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === pygi [n=mario@83-131-91-78.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === cbx33 [n=c389721f@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:01] moo === grahamldlw [n=grahamld@host81-7-39-133.adsl.v21.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:01] Foo! === willvdl gives highvoltage another drink [10:02] why thank you, willvdl [10:02] sounds like you needed it [10:03] ogra: over here ! [10:03] hola compadres [10:03] ogra: come, come, ... put put! [10:03] heh, sorry everybody [10:03] hehe [10:03] :) [10:03] well, not much from the tech side today, i fixed up syslogging, so the thin clients log to the servers logfiles, and extra for highvoltage .... [10:03] i added the IP to ldm's bottom bar ;) [10:04] ogra: deja vu :p [10:04] ogra: *g* [10:04] (lazy copy/paste) [10:04] you lazy ... never :p [10:04] pips1: ooh, glad you're here, after tech, etc we must talk to lguerra about spanish web stuff === cbx33 has seen some problems with the current - 09 live cd [10:04] not tried edubuntu [10:04] highvoltage: oki [10:04] and RichEd sends apologies too, btw [10:04] but ubuntu...I havn't been around a lottoday to ask about it [10:04] apart from that i was busy organizing the sponsorings for th ek12 guys, and make sure the CD size is fine ... [10:04] i havent tested any yet [10:05] shall we begin? [10:05] cbx33, what did you find ? [10:05] well...gconfd fails [10:05] ouch [10:05] on two machines I tried [10:05] what happens in here? [10:05] plus.....it seems.....very very slow [10:05] cbx33, edubuntu install ? [10:05] grahamldlw: magic ;) [10:05] no...ubuntu live...that's what I just said [10:05] the install CD ` [10:05] ? [10:05] I havn't tried edubuntu yet [10:06] but I'm wondering if it'll have the same problems [10:06] szre it will, we use the same packages [10:06] *sure [10:06] well...I'll grab one tomorrow...but I wouldhave said it WAS not ready for release....unless fixes have been made since then [10:06] cbx33: what version? beta / daily ? [10:07] but i'm not really worried about the liveCd [10:07] it was the current as of 10am this mornin [10:07] they are a nice goodie ... [10:07] 09 [10:07] ogra: ok dude [10:07] RC freeze starts tomorrow ... [10:08] when is RC? [10:08] it would be nice to get as much testing as possible before RC [10:08] i thought it was tomorrow [10:08] nope, the freeze is tomorrow [10:08] then we'll prepare the isos ... [10:08] whew...ok..that gives me some time to get release notes done [10:08] so during this time any testinstall is important ... [10:08] ogra: ok...I'll attempt to get an instlal done tonight on a VM [10:09] I know you don;t like VM's much...but atm it's all I have [10:09] thats fine [10:09] well, i have available machines here to install to and test [10:09] nixternal: nice ;) [10:09] that would be very verys helpful [10:09] ogra: Want me to do another test install tonight off the daily builds? [10:09] you need the latest live cd tested? or wait until freeze? [10:10] I have one 86 machine I can test [10:10] pips1, saved our ass with a very early bugreport for beta ... else we wouldntz have had ppc and amd64 b [10:10] well done pips1 \0/ [10:10] sbalneav, well, it gets more intresting after/during the freeze than before [10:10] :) [10:10] i just installed this week again...and i haven't run across one issue yet..granted i have been addicted to playing Tetravex..and I am happy to say I haven't seen a bug in it yet ;) [10:11] ok, so we are confident Tetravex is bugfree ... :) [10:11] ah 11.1 is the latest...so it could be that gconfd issue is fixed [10:11] lol ogra [10:11] haha yes [10:11] and Samegnome [10:11] hmm ? 11.1 ? [10:11] I'll make a point of installing TT's box tonight if I have time. [10:11] http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/ [10:11] yup [10:12] intresting [10:12] I'm gonna have to nip off in a while....at inlaws....lisa and I went out for meal...not home yet ;) [10:12] yes I was surprised not to find an 11 [10:12] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-devel/2006-October/001805.html [10:13] ^^^ for willing testers [10:13] cbx33 romantic devil, irc over dinner? [10:13] haha [10:13] willvdl: hehe [10:13] so ogra, you are saying that we should start testing the current daily? or better wait and test the next daily (i.e. tomorrow)? [10:13] awesome ogra, i will test it and follow that here within the next day or 2 and report back === nixternal adds it to the every expanding to do list [10:13] i will spend most of the day with testing (and fixing the progressbar uglyness in the usplash theme) === cbx33 pledges a test - i386 [10:14] nixternal: heh I know the feeling [10:14] (tomorrow) [10:14] ogra: yeh what happened with that [10:14] I don;t like the pulse bar at the start of the live cd... [10:14] so it will get more urgent after the freeze started [10:14] ogra: We could do serious usability testing -- I could let TT try to install it himself :P [10:14] shows no indication of progress at all === HedgeMage ducks [10:14] ok, I'll test a amd64 install tomorrow, then [10:14] HedgeMage, does he know how to type his name ? [10:14] pips1: you got ppc too? === cbx33 has i386 [10:14] that and hitting enter a couple of times should do it ;) [10:14] yes, but I can only test live on that... :) [10:15] ogra: no, hi just does "LLLLLLLLLL" (his first initial [10:15] pips1: same here with amd64 [10:15] ogra: We'll have to work on the whole name :P [10:15] heh [10:15] ok, so much about testing [10:15] .... === Ropechoborra [n=rope@201.212.107.5] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:15] ogra: hehe === lguerra it has various 486 and 586 if they serve them [10:15] so /me for i386 live and install [10:16] pips1: for ppc live and amd64 install [10:16] Hi ubuntuers =P [10:16] nixternal: what can you pledge? [10:16] and /me for amd64 install and ppc live [10:16] for mountainview i invited a real ldap hero ... matt oquist will join us there [10:16] what do you need me to pledge? [10:16] oooh [10:16] testing... [10:16] as long as it isn't money ;) [10:16] what hardware do you have available? === HedgeMage is so jealous that she can't go [10:16] so i expect that we'll get the network authentication stuff done this time [10:16] i am all i386 here [10:16] You guys have extra fun for me ;) === cbx33 is so annoyed he can't go, even thought he got sponsored [10:16] ogra: please use your persuasive powers and get him involved in edubuntu :) [10:16] re network auth hurrraayyyy!!!! [10:16] nixternal: ok.... [10:16] highvoltage, working on it ;) [10:17] ogra: are we still required to test all diferent types of install? [10:17] HedgeMage: When's the cutoff on handbook work? [10:17] :) [10:17] standalone i can take care of, and i will attempt and ltsp setup [10:17] ie free space / resize etc? [10:17] i need to get my other server up and running [10:17] cbx33, https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Testing/Current will be the valid testplan for the RC [10:17] sbalneav: The very last minutte :P We're hoping to get it up on lulu on the 25th, translations, if any, can follow after. We're way behind mostly due to my personal emergencies :/ [10:17] there is a guy in my LUG that has a huge LTSP setup for his office right now [10:17] test what you like from the list ;) [10:18] sbalneav: Right now we're just plugging away to get the most we can done as quickly as possible. [10:18] he is idle 100% of the time here lately, and doesn't respond well to emails [10:18] guys [10:18] are we done with tech ? [10:18] quickie [10:18] ogra: it seems so [10:18] one sec [10:18] so we can follow sbalneav and HedgeMage to the docs topic ? ;) [10:18] language packs [10:18] :) [10:18] ogra: one more [10:18] who is responsable upstream? [10:18] willvdl, what about them ? [10:19] are you going to change what cdimage we are testing? [10:19] on the wiki [10:19] I have a mailing list problem to put on the table at the appropriate time :) [10:19] willvdl, define upstream here [10:19] for the language packs we are upstream === pygi peeks in about docs topic [10:19] sorry, need to discuss language support with someone [10:20] willvdl, whats your concern with them ? [10:20] willvdl: I'm working hard on local language support, so depending on for which area you need, I could share what I have [10:20] no concern, got a possible opportunity for some folks to do some local language support [10:20] and just need o figure out the best way for them given lack of bandwidth [10:20] willvdl: I'm re-building OOo for all the translate.org.za stuff, it's a bit schleppy, but worth while [10:20] some lang we dont have yewt ? [10:21] then you are the guy I must speak to :) [10:21] will call you tomorrow with details? === neuralis_ [n=krstic@solarsail.hcs.harvard.edu] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:21] willvdl, contact carlos, he's responsible for the langpacks in ubuntu [10:21] HedgeMage: did you see SCP docs? [10:21] cool, thanks === darkanyel [n=chatzill@host141-158-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:22] willvdl: tomorrow is one of those 'meetings-all-day' days, but give me a call anyway :) [10:22] so seems cbx33 got us to the tech docs topic ;) [10:22] email then [10:22] cbx33: I've only had time to skim, but they look good from the glance I got :) === darkanyel [n=chatzill@host141-158-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [10:22] HedgeMage: I created an images folder...is that ok? [10:23] cbx33: I have no clue, nixternal is fixing our organization and some docbook problems for us... it'll end up where it belongs :) [10:23] nixternal: is that ok :p [10:23] hehe [10:23] images is still there...i didn't have to mess with it [10:23] it is good [10:23] it may get moved around so it is setup for integration into the ubuntu doc repos eventually [10:24] i recenly committed a huge chunk, so svn up [10:24] do we have a new firefox page already ? [10:24] nixternal: are we goign with jpeg or png? [10:24] doesn't look like it ogra [10:24] hmm... jsgotango did it previously [10:24] at the mo they are jpeg [10:25] we need one of those soon [10:25] ogra: I don't believe so [10:25] i would say png cbx33, but that is up to you all [10:25] nixternal: I think it's better if we are uniform [10:25] cbx33, png's shrunk with pngcrush would be fine to keep the size small [10:25] so all images are png [10:25] ogra: an updated one to the current one would suffice? or is there a whole whack of new stuff that's needed in there [10:25] if you use png, just make sure you kill transparency just in case someone with MS decides to read the book ;) [10:25] OK, sounds like PNG it is === HedgeMage goes with the flow [10:25] cbx33: png it is then ;) [10:26] highvoltage, worst case i'll change the release number on release day .... [10:26] thanks for pointing out the uniform thing ;) [10:26] and keep whats there [10:26] :) [10:26] pips1: are you taking care of the current edubuntu site now? [10:26] nixternal: np [10:26] I noticed that our site looks quite bad inIE [10:26] because of transparent pngs [10:26] urk [10:26] eek [10:27] cbx33: well, i'm admin, but I don't do anything content-wise [10:27] i usually follow the KDE style guide for my images...i haven't used pngcrush yet, but i will look into it [10:27] currently, that is [10:27] cbx33: can you send me a screenshot? [10:27] cbx33, i thought there were hacks in place to avoid that [10:27] highvoltage, transparency is usually shown gray in IE [10:27] IE doesn't support png transparency, and I haven't even gotten the hacks to work with it [10:27] cbx33: yeah, the transparent pngs don't work with MSIE (6) [10:27] but there are some simple workarounds for that [10:28] well...I just think a lot of the people viewing our site are likely to be MS [10:28] really the transparencies do not function, shown blue and white [10:28] lisa pointed it out [10:28] can we sort something out there? [10:28] cbx33: you're right, it should work for them [10:28] it looks bad.... [10:28] ogra: what i do is convert my transparents to gif format (eww), and then in css i do _whatever {blah blah} <- as using the _ directs it to IE6 and lower [10:28] I don't have access to IE, but we can get it sorted [10:28] it is a nice slick design....ty highvoltage [10:28] but the rendering from IE lets it down [10:29] ok, hang on. Is the Edubuntu firefox page taken care of? [10:29] cbx33: I think it's time we update the theme anyway, make it a bit more slicker and sharper, and update it to edgy theming [10:29] nixternal, there are easier ways via a built in css function of IE ... [10:29] you just need to call that from the sites css [10:29] there's always space for improvement :) [10:29] content & structure, then look and feel? [10:29] i have tried the transparency hacks w/o luck...i will look further into those [10:30] highvoltage: well....thisis something Riched was talkign about [10:30] did we skip artwork and moved on to "Community & Documentation & Web" ? [10:30] seems like :) [10:30] hehe, thats what it looks like [10:30] oh one tiny artwork thing [10:30] shoot Laser [10:30] ogra: sorry, we're a bit all over the place tonight :) [10:30] did we have anything about artwork atm =?= [10:31] um..I have a few things [10:31] but only little [10:31] 2 tiny artwork things, is Edubuntu going to have a glossy logo like the other 3 projects? [10:31] AliasVegas ishere with me [10:31] highvoltage, well, we're two third through the agenda ;) [10:31] we're sharing this computer [10:31] has anybody noticed that on the gnome splash screen, the icons override the cool text [10:31] ok, but LaserJock was first [10:31] but there blank space on the right [10:31] right, i noticed that ... [10:31] ok....want a rejig? [10:32] am i missing something? [10:32] oh ya [10:32] mine loads so fast you can hardly notice it though [10:32] so either the icons need to move or the text [10:32] icons can't move i don't believe [10:32] not easily [10:32] that's what I figured [10:32] and to keep consistency shouldn't imho [10:32] then a slight transparent bar should do [10:32] aliasvegas has justsaid she's fine to adjust [10:33] ok :) [10:33] urk, just noticed the blue in ie. must be tired [10:33] can someone get me a screenshot of it loading? [10:34] meaning? [10:34] so we can get right on that when we get in? [10:34] HedgeMage: do you have blurb yet...lisa just asked? === neuralis_ [n=krstic@solarsail.hcs.harvard.edu] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:36] cbx33: I'm sorry, I still need to type it up... did a last-minute rewrite... please tell her I apologize profusely and will try to hurry with it. [10:37] no no it's ok [10:37] just want to be able to get the artwork to you [10:37] cool [10:37] http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/splash_loading.png [10:37] :) [10:37] cbx33, ^^^ [10:37] thank ogra [10:37] it loads two more === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:38] does it? [10:38] I never seen them [10:38] i think so [10:38] they are enabled by default in edubuntu ... you should [10:38] ok [10:39] more artwork ? [10:39] I have nothing [10:39] well apart from [10:39] soon we are hoping tostart recruiting for edgy + 1 [10:40] nixternal, nobody made any glossy logos for edubuntu, so i guess no ... [10:40] awww [10:40] to bad i stink at inkscape ;) [10:40] its very likely it will look like whats you currently get [10:40] if you know of anyone who could be interested in artowrk for edubuntu please get them to mail lisa directly;) [10:40] nixternal: we had problems with artowrk this release....but that's all behind us now [10:40] we're looking forward to next release [10:40] ahhh [10:40] ok.. [10:40] nixternal: there is no point going intodetails [10:41] don't need to ;) [10:41] suffice to say it will not happen again...and was out of our control === nixternal totally understands [10:41] cbx33, the ubuntu-art mailinglist should still be the central point though ... [10:41] ogra: ok [10:41] I just worry at the moment of people having to join up to the mailing list just to register interest [10:41] i'm not opposing that people mial lisa ;) but discussions should take place there [10:41] they could talk to lisa first.....register intereste and she could direct them to the ML [10:41] Speaking of mailing lists.... [10:41] of course [10:42] sbalneav, shoot [10:42] ogra: does that make sense? [10:42] cbx33, how she handles it is up to her :) [10:42] I've signed up to edubuntu-devel mailing list, but everytime I post, nothing ever gets through. [10:42] uuuhh, really ? [10:42] yeah :( [10:42] Don't you love me anymore, ogra? :) [10:43] *sniff* [10:43] RichEd poked around the last days in the interface, but i dont think he just changes stuff [10:43] sbalneav: ogra hates Canadians ;) === nixternal has a doc update concerning Ubuntu Documentation Repo when the floor opens - No Rush! Finish what you are doing now ;) [10:43] haha Burgwork, so do you ;) === HedgeMage has to give TT some attention... highlight me if I'm needed, please. [10:44] im moving to Alberta! it is way to beautiful for me to miss out [10:44] sbalneav, i dont see you in the subscribers list [10:44] ok Hawkwind [10:44] nixternal: you are mad [10:44] whoops [10:44] HedgeMage: [10:44] lol [10:44] ?! [10:45] sbalneav, ah, hidden behind your name ... found you ... [10:45] I get the mails? How could I get the mails if I wasn't subscribed? :) [10:45] ogra: Geez, I'm a big guy, hard to miss :) [10:46] hmm, looks all fine [10:46] sbalneav: is your sending address the same as what you signed up with? i had a similar issue when i took on the @ubuntu.com with ALL 100 mailing lists ;) [10:46] Wierd. [10:46] do you also send as sbalneav@ltsp.org ? [10:46] it will only accept the subscribed address [10:46] ogra: Ah! No, I send as @legalaid.mb.ca [10:46] aha ! [10:46] heheh [10:46] hehe, there you go ;) [10:46] problem solved ;) [10:46] @ltsp.org is just an alias to @legalaid === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:47] ok, so I'll unsubscribe and re-subscribe as @legalaid. [10:47] just change your data [10:47] no need to unsub [10:47] That'll work? OK, I can do that. [10:47] \o/ for ogra [10:47] +1e8 [10:48] ok, apart from management we have covered all topics i think [10:48] heh [10:48] ok...i gotta dash can I show people this: https://launchpad.net/people/edubuntu-school-support/ [10:48] it was a group I started....notice we have a lot of members here...tiem to tap them me thinkgs ;) [10:48] well, there are some people [10:49] anyway, management ... [10:49] yes but it's a start right ;) === HedgeMage peeks in [10:49] sbalneav: whatcha need? [10:49] ok guys I'm gonna have to pop out...no body have any issues for me do they? [10:49] oops, cbx33 whatcha need? [10:49] we'll have a bunch of k12 gusy sponsored for mountainview ... [10:49] *guys [10:50] additionally the ltsp core team will be there === ogra waves to sbalneav [10:50] HedgeMage: sorry..was acking you [10:50] right I'm off for a while [10:50] do we have plans of what to do with all these cool guys? [10:50] see ya soon guys [10:50] cbx33: ahh okay ttyl [10:50] apart from LaserJock no edubuntu specific people will come :/ [10:50] :( [10:50] :( === pygi is highly sorry once again :( === highvoltage too === cbx33 too....work sux [10:50] i will be in school, if I can get at least 2 days off I will be there, but it just happens to fall during midterms === sbalneav waves back [10:51] nixternal, would be cool to meet you :) [10:51] I won't even be there the full time [10:51]