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holoton1I am an experimental DJ at an FM radio station, and was looking for some good software that I could use to lay out the tracks for my show, do transitions between them, and play with a few effects here and there; Any suggestions?12:01
paul0here is the Second Life stdout: http://rafb.net/paste/results/94YHsx66.html12:01
mwepaul0: what driver is that?12:01
paul0mwe: i81012:01
mwepaul0: I know it's not perfect12:02
TmWrk_Quilholoton1: i've done what you are talking about and have some at home12:02
mwepaul0: pretty slow as well12:02
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paul0mwe: Scorched 3D, and others run fine12:02
holoton1TmWrk_Quil: what would you reccomend for software?12:02
pausome one knows how to set up a 82801G (ICH7 family) high definition audio in ubuntu? capture funtion dosn't work12:02
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TmWrk_Quilholoton1: it will allow you to manage all your tracks in databases12:02
paul0mwe: just SL doesn't start12:02
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TmWrk_Quilholoton1: email me, i'll drop you a line when i get back to the house with the name of it, it's been about a year and a half12:03
Warboplease? I am, like, ON the computer which I should be installing Ubuntu on, I've tried 3 times now and my mate is beginning to think Linux isn't as good as I said it is12:03
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holoton1TmWrk_Quil: Not so concerned about managing the tracks, what I'm looking for is software that will help me with transitions (fade in/out mixing, etc..) between tracks12:03
mwepaul0: it seems to me it's trying to use a feature that the driver does not support12:03
pausome one knows how to set up a 82801G (ICH7 family) high definition audio in ubuntu? capture funtion dosn't work12:03
TmWrk_Quilholoton1: yeah this does it12:03
TmWrk_Quilholoton1: and more12:03
holoton1TmWrk_Quil: What's the name?12:03
Warboholoton1: Amarok can mix between tracks, but it usually screws up when I try to do it :(12:03
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TmWrk_Quilholoton1: it works with icecast and shoutcast12:04
paul0mwe: SDL: Couldn't find matching GLX visual12:04
smax_!edgy12:04
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule12:04
paul0mwe: i think this is the problem... but i can't figure out how to fix12:04
holoton1Warbo: Looking for something with more control, pitch adjustments and the such12:04
smax_!schedule12:04
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule12:04
pausome one knows how to set up a 82801G (ICH7 family) high definition audio in ubuntu? capture funtion dosn't work12:04
Warbo!xmms12:04
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs12:04
pike__Warbo: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php try this i think its a newer version than in ubuntu12:04
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mwepaul0: you probably have to fix the driver. But that's a very hard task12:04
smax_I wanna enable 5.1mode on my  souncard. What I should to do?12:05
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muaddibHas anyone heard the latest news on Hans Reiser http://tinyurl.com/mlx5f12:05
MilencoI can't seem to get GLX support for my Ati (9250) card while i did install the latest drivers (using apt-get). Same problem with both ati and radeon driver.12:05
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MilencoAnyone any ideas?12:05
pausome one knows how to set up a 82801G (ICH7 family) high definition audio in ubuntu? capture funtion dosn't work12:05
paul0mwe: i think the problem is with SDL, because other programs run without problems12:05
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mwepaul0: hmm12:05
Milencopau: that works out-of-the-box here?12:06
MilencoAt least the output. :P12:06
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Leo5Can somebody recommend me a console application to manage/edit my partitions?12:06
pauit works with windows12:06
gnomefreakmuaddib: if its not related to ubuntu support please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic12:06
pike__Leo5: cfdisk ?12:06
Leo5Thanks, I'll try that12:06
mwepaul0: SDL says it can't find a matching GLX visual. That would lead me to think it's a driver issue. I'm not 100% positive though12:07
smax_How to change soundcard mode from 2.0 to 5.112:07
pike__Leo5: natually it doesnt resize only create and delete12:07
Cosmo-sanmanage/edit?  uh, use the cosole?12:07
pike__naturally*12:07
Leo5good enough12:07
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paul0mwe: but the driver is working fine with other applications12:07
SkyMountaineercan i get some help with my sound card pls12:07
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mwepaul0: maybe they don't use that particular feature12:07
pausome one knows how to set up a 82801G (ICH7 family) high definition audio in ubuntu? capture funtion dosn't work12:08
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hades__!grub12:08
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:08
smax_How to change soundcard mode from 2.0 to 5.112:08
paumilenco, it works the sound, but not the capture12:08
smax_!5.112:08
SkyMountaineerpau12:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 5.1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:08
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SkyMountaineerpau: i got the same card as wel12:08
SkyMountaineercan not get it to go12:09
WarboDammit, no CD Writer12:09
paudoes it work?12:09
SkyMountaineernope trying for help here12:09
paujejeje12:09
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smax_<SkyMountaineer> what's wrong12:09
pauis the capture function12:09
MilencoAhh pau I see..sorry cant help you with that :(12:09
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SkyMountaineersmax: linux sees the card and alsa sees it but there is no sound12:10
pauwhere could i see for some information?12:10
SkyMountaineeri followed all the doco and no joy12:10
SkyMountaineer!soun d12:10
SkyMountaineer!sound12:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about soun d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:10
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems12:10
pauI've got sound12:10
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paul0mwe: someone using i180 has run SL, http://forums.secondlife.com/showthread.php?p=1080478&highlight=i810#post108047812:11
SAS_Spidey01I finally got ubuntu to boot12:11
mwepaul0: hmm12:11
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smax_SkyMountaineer Mmm maybee you have 2 device. Do you have tv tuner. Maybee you should enable it in your player. What player what soundcard12:12
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SkyMountaineersmax_: yea it see's 2 1 a sound card and another a modem12:13
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pausome one knows how to set up a 82801G (ICH7 family) high definition audio in ubuntu? capture funtion dosn't work12:13
djaniok, got a pointer for reading on how to add a script to 6.10 startup12:14
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djani?12:14
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SkyMountaineersmax_ it is a intel card ich712:14
SkyMountaineeri am using sound juicer12:14
WoolyGrrlany help here for what appears to be a hardware issue that hangs ubuntu during initial boot/load ?12:14
gnomefreakdjani: ask in #ubuntu+112:14
djanignomefreak, thanks12:14
gnomefreakdjani: yw12:14
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smax_SkyMountaineer juicer...never used is there any system sounds?12:15
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stebenhallo12:16
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mwepaul0: do you have 'Load "glx"' in xorg.conf?12:16
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mwepaul0: and 'Load "dri"' as well?12:16
smax_SkyMountaineer when you login sound is playing or not?12:17
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SkyMountaineersmax_ no system sounds,12:17
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smax_SkyMountaineer Try to change default sound device.12:17
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SkyMountaineerhave there is only 1 default device12:18
SkyMountaineerI have12:18
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pike__SkyMountaineer: you can always cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp leave that terminal open and play with alsamixer in seperate terminal until it works12:19
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SkyMountaineeri do a modinfo and it tell me that's it loaded a module12:19
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smax_SkyMountaineer do you have bmp or xmms? run in than chose alsa and there try to change devices which are avalible there( you shold hit ok and restart track everytime)12:19
paul0mwe: yes12:19
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method|how can i get k3b to allow me to burn a cd without sudoing?12:20
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mweSkyMountaineer: please turn down the speaker volume bofore doing that if you want to avoid hurting your ears ;)12:20
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mwepaul0: hmm. I don't think I can help you then. I can look at your xorg.conf if you pastebin it though if you want me to12:21
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paul0mwe: i think it's software problem12:21
smax_mwe good advice )12:21
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paul0mwe: http://osdl.sourceforge.net/OSDL/OSDL-0.3/src/doc/web/main/documentation/rendering/SDL-openGL.html#troubleshooting12:21
lmosherHow do I switch to my S-video out on my laptop?12:22
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Stormx2Firefox 2 RC 2: Can I just download/compile it? I've had a look in the help section on FirefoxNewVersion but its for 1.512:22
lmosherthe function button on the laptop goes to the CRT, but is there a module for the display setup like in windows?12:22
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mwepaul0: so you think the program is broken? maybe so ...12:23
variantanyone know how to enable gdm to autologin by editing a configfile? i am wanting to do this over ssh12:23
jshamash66If I mount a FAT partition on my Ubuntu machine, and share it over the network, can windows users access my files (and modify them)?12:23
paul0mwe: yes12:23
paul0mwe: i'll send an email to them, to check this12:23
variantjshamash66: if you share it with samba12:23
paul0mwe: thanks for the help, and time12:23
jshamash66variant: ok, thanks12:23
mwepaul0: yw12:24
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SkyMountaineer!xmms12:24
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs12:24
finalbetaDoesn't ubuntu support firewire? When I plug my external HD through USB, it auto mounts. When I plug it through firewire, nothing happens. Tested this on two PC's.  Do I have to do something to enable it? I only have USB1 so I really would need to have firewire support.12:24
pike__variant: sudo vi /etc/gdm/gdm.conf    set AutomatiLoginEnable=true  i think12:24
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variantpike__: will it ask for a password?12:25
WoolyGrrlany help here for what appears to be a hardware issue that hangs ubuntu during initial boot/load ?12:25
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pike__variant: there is also an AutomaticLogin=   so i think a username there  i dont know never did it :)12:25
pike__variant: shouldnt12:25
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smax_SkyMountaineer you can try thesame  in your player but I don't know work it there or not12:25
jshamash66is there a way of mounting a FAT partition so that you don't need administrative rights to modify its files?12:26
KJ-rohello it's me again... everithing is ok.. but i am getting messages (kernel like) ... in the console window... what to do ? where to stop this ?12:26
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KJ-rothese messages are from iptables ...12:26
whysohi newbie q here: if i use the livecd to transfer my data to an external hd i will still be able to use it when i do the real install right12:26
mwejshamash66: yes12:27
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KJ-rothese are the loging options of the iptables: logops="--log-leve=alert -m limit --limit 1/second --limit-burst=3"12:27
mwe!fat > jshamash6612:27
Jaakis there nobody able to help me with my half working scanner?12:27
jshamash66thanks12:27
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variantI am having a problem with the nvidia driver on a ge force 2mx 400.. x refuses to start (failed to load nvidia module) is there something i need to do?12:28
ikuhey guys. has anybody installed the ubuntu server version lately? i get an error message when installing the basic system and i cant continue to install it. any ideas what might be wrong? maybe a failure in the download?12:28
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mwevariant: is the card supposed to be supported by the driver?12:28
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Stormx2Folks, whats a simple way to find the biggest files recusively in a directory?12:29
variantmwe: as far as i am aware the mx 400 is still supported12:30
variantStormx2: use ls and sort12:30
Stormx2variant: Righto12:30
pike__Stormx2: i dont know if its what you want but i do 'du -ach /directory' and then you can grep for stuff12:30
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variantmwe: i apt-get install nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common and changed the driver to nv but it still fails to load nvidia module12:31
varianti apt-get install nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common and changed the driver to nv but it still fails to load nvidia module, can anyone help?12:31
Stormx2*sigh* i have no idea how to use sort12:31
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mweStormx2: find -exec ls -lS {} \;|less12:31
Stormx2gimme a min, ima google it12:31
variantStormx2: man sort12:31
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variantStormx2: its easy12:32
bbrazilStormx2: google largest2012:32
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Stormx2Eek, thanks for all the help everyone12:32
Stormx2:)12:32
donielo all12:32
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ikuany ideas guys? :(12:32
doniecan i have somebody's time for a minute with an ibook problem12:32
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Stormx2mwe: How do I escape from that?12:33
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stefgvariant: might it be that you need the nvidia- _legacy_ -packages? Geforce 2 is quite historic12:33
doniei have an ibook g3 which is not picking up the airport card installed on the cardbus slot under the keyboard12:33
donielspci does not show the card either12:33
mweStormx2: ctrl-c but ls -lSRh |less is probably better12:34
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Sp4rKYhi12:34
mweStormx2: err. q12:34
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UnityA problem occur while loading a library or decoder: wmvdmod.dll,    Kaffeine12:34
JaakWhy is my xsane talking about scanning grey frame?12:34
mweStormx2: type q12:34
mweStormx2: to quit less12:34
variantstefg: it lists geforce2 pro and others but specificaly not geforce2mx12:34
Stormx2mwe: Thanks :)12:34
Stormx2mwe: Alright. Its strange because I remember my home partition being bigger than 2.5 gig, still, maybe I screwed up somewhere12:35
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mweStormx2: what's strange again?12:35
JaakWhy is my xsane talking about scanning grey frame??12:36
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Stormx2mwe: A little popup came up saying its 95% full, my /home12:36
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stefgvariant: everything before GF4 is definitely legacy12:36
mweStormx2: df -h?12:36
donieguys, any tools in ubntu that would help me try to solve a pci problem?12:37
atroWorkanybody know where the Xsetup script is in ubuntu?12:37
Stormx2mwe: I cleared some stuff off just now: /dev/hdb6             5.4G  4.5G  656M  88% /home12:37
donieof not detectign a card?12:37
XenThraLHi, I'm having troubles configuring which sound device to use in KDE -- its quite frustrating, tried just about everything12:37
bionoiddonie: What kind of PCI problem?12:37
Max_-some software needs libatk1.0-0 to run... I loaded libatk1.0-dev ... now it still says I need libatk1.0-1 .. so I searched.. found the deb package.. but I cant Install it, it says I already have newer version... even if I apt-get remove the 1.0-dev one!!.. how can I do???12:37
donieapple ibook12:37
donienot detectign airport card12:37
bionoiddonie: lspci12:37
donienot there12:37
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mweStormx2: hmm. some of it is probably reserved so 88% full might trigger that warning12:37
doniei mean it doesnt see the airport12:38
bionoiddonie: But the airport works fine if you boot macos?12:38
doniedont know12:38
doniedont have macos on it12:38
WoolyGrrlany way to force verbose during "loading hardware drivers" to find out specifically what is failing during initial load/boot?12:38
atroWorkMax_-, you can specify a version to install with apt-get, it will revert if necessary. I don't remember the syntax off hand though, check the man page on it or aptitude12:38
Stormx2mwe: Well I deleted a lot of .wav's, it was on 95% I think12:38
mweok12:38
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david_Hello--how do I start beryl from a resume.d script?  "sudo -H -b -u beryl-manager --display :0.0" doesn't seem to work.  Basically, how do I run a command as if I was in my gnome session from outside of my gnome session?12:39
stefgvariant: your song goes like ' sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-[arch]  nvidia-glx-legacy' and then changing the nv back to nvidia in /etc/xorg.conf12:39
doniei put ethernet card that is known to work in ibook and ti doesnt see taht either12:39
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Stormx2mwe: it may be the recycle bin actually, XD12:40
bionoiddonie: Hm well I don't know the first thing about macs, so can't help you, sorry :\12:40
doniewhich software actually powers up the cardbus?12:40
mweStormx2: du -h --max-depth=1|less might help you figure what dir is taking up most space at least12:40
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Max_-atroWork, okay, thanks I'll look at this12:40
stefg!info yenta-socket12:40
ubotuPackage yenta-socket does not exist in any distro I know12:40
bionoiddonie: But if it doesn't even show up in lspci, then I'd take that as a sign that something is wrong on hardware level - be it the card, the motherboard or simply a bios setting12:40
doniebios settings on ibook?12:41
mweStormx2: maybe but I thought it was only allowed to use a certain percentage of the space12:41
bionoidthe latter, of course, not being a hardware problem ;p12:41
doniei reset open firmware but that was no help12:41
donienot sure if you can disable the cardbus slot via openfirmware though12:41
bionoiddonie: Again I don't know the first thing about macs, but I suppose it has a bios of some sort - whether or not it is configurable, I don't know..12:41
XenThraLhow do I select which soundcard the system should use ? (KDE)12:42
doniek, thanks12:42
Stormx2mwe: Cleared the recycle bin: /dev/hdb6             5.4G  1.9G  3.3G  37% /home12:42
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donieany good place to search for ibook probs12:42
doniehaving trouble finding anyone with the same problem12:42
stefgdonie: forget about bios... you have efi... different concept12:42
mweStormx2: 12:42
keithguys is there any way i can allow user to do there own email forwarding i.e setup fwding to there hotmail accounts. via some sort of web interface12:42
donieis an ibook g312:42
noneno efi12:42
Stormx2mwe: Thanks so much for the help, really appreciate it.12:42
doniecirca 200012:42
noneopen firmware12:42
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doniekeith? From what service?12:43
doniegmail?12:44
donieyahoo?12:44
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keithdonie: sendmail12:44
donieoh!12:44
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keithdonie: i mean from my linux box12:44
keithI wouldnt ask how to configure gmail in #ubuntu :p12:45
doniekeith, have never used sendmail in that way12:45
doniesorry12:45
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fuffaloim thinking of getting a via6421 chipset SATA controller card, anyone know if this will work fine in ubuntu?12:45
WoolyGrrlis there a way to force verboseness during "loading hardware drivers" so that i can find out what specific piece of hardware is failing during boot?  i've stripped my system and something is still puking during the initial booloader12:46
donieanyone want to buy an ibook with ubuntu on it? airport not working. everything else ok incl ethernet :)12:46
Max_-Dependency is not satisfiable: libatk1.0-0         but when I try to apt-get install libatk1.0-0         it says   libatk1.0-0 is already the newest version.  argh???12:46
_dellfan_keith: how about a .forward file in users home directory12:46
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_dellfan_keith: it only needs to heva 1 line (the e-mail to wich the user is forwarding)12:47
doniekeith, http://www.unix.org.ua/orelly/networking/tcpip/ch10_03.htm12:47
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david_how do I run a program (beryl) in a Gnome session from a daemon script (resume.d)?12:47
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variantdonie: ibooks suck12:48
donieis that not  good? lol12:48
variantdonie: which one is it? g5?12:48
donieg312:48
variantdonie: throw it in a skip12:48
doniefeck off :)12:48
donieit's a great yokke12:48
variantthe only good thing about it is that it looks kinda nice.. use it as a place mat? :)12:48
keith_dellfan_:  yeah just found out about .forward files :D12:48
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doniegrand for irc and browsing12:49
keithDelPede: would this just forward all mail to that address?12:49
sidny4if you don anything else with it, it will crash though :P12:49
macsimahah12:49
variantmake it a file server and hide it somwhere.. they are kinda quite12:49
variantWoolyGrrl: wtf you doing?12:49
_dellfan_keith: yes, it forwards all mail12:49
nixternalplease stop with CTCP pings12:49
WoolyGrrlchecking to see how far fucking lagged i am, thanks12:50
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WoolyGrrlsince i'm not lagged i suppose either 1) nobody knows the answer ot my question or 2) i'm being blown off12:50
keith_dellfan_: nice, guess i need to create some thing which creates a .forward file for the users then.12:50
sidny4I'm sorry, were you talking wollygrrl?12:50
WoolyGrrlpatient i am, but i was hoping for at least a "don't know" :P12:50
_dellfan_keith: i use it on few linux boxes and it works for me12:50
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variantWoolyGrrl: or 3) your impatient and annoying12:50
sidny4yay for variant's answer12:50
variantWoolyGrrl: I dont even know your question..12:50
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sidny4no noe does12:51
sidny4one*12:51
nullus!kernel12:51
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild12:51
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sidny4so, WoolyGrrl, what seems to be your problem12:51
keith_dellfan_: _dellfan_ would it litterly just be a file in the users homedir, with the email address in ? i.e .forward keith@gmail.com12:51
iku_hey guys. has anybody installed the ubuntu server version lately? i get an error message when installing the basic system and i cant continue to install it. any ideas what might be wrong? maybe a failure in the download?12:52
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nullus!arch12:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about arch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:52
WoolyGrrlpossibly, but i first asked my question at 1714, i've rephrased it twice since then and more than half an hour later...12:52
WoolyGrrlso yeah, i'm impatient12:52
nullus!amd12:52
nullus!k712:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about amd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:52
_dellfan_keith: yes, it is a file with only an e-mail to wich to forward12:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about k7 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:52
keithNice.12:52
keiththanks12:52
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SkyMountaineersmax_ ok i have installed bmp the output plugin is alsa 0.9.7 and i have cossen the 1st card and still no sound12:52
crippy-boyWoolyGrrl, There are alot of people in here alot needing help, just ask again.12:52
sidny4WoolyGrrl, that's good an all but please stop complaining and try your question again12:52
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doniei need help with ibook12:52
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donieanyone got one?12:53
stefgdonie: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21235.html12:53
rasputnikanyone got iscsi working with Breezy?12:53
JDStonehow do I make my USB external HDD mount when I plug it in?12:53
WoolyGrrlnah, i wouldn't want to bother anybody12:53
JDStoneon Ubuntu server12:53
_dellfan_keith: if you are looking for something that will help people create this file try usermin http://www.usermin.com12:53
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rasputnikdonie: I have one, but not running linux12:53
_dellfan_keith: but it is quite big project12:53
doniestefg:  thanks, but mine is just an airport, not extreme12:53
XenThraLeh, I need help if anyone is willing12:53
Abst!ask12:53
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:53
sidny4WoolyGrrl, if you would like hlep, simply ask your questions and they will get answered sooner or later12:53
XenThraL"Hi, I'm having troubles configuring which sound device to use in KDE -- its quite frustrating, tried just about everything"12:54
crippy-boysidny4, She left12:54
XenThraLnot only the sound device orders keep changing12:54
XenThraLbut the 'default' one also changes12:54
sidny4some people's children12:54
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XenThraLtried to do a fix for it I found on the forums, but it didn't 'take' apparently12:54
sidny4hmm12:54
keith_dellfan_: im not installing that :p i dont want to get rooted!12:54
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donieare your file permissions ok in your account?12:54
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doniemaybe it cant write changes? XenThraL12:55
XenThraLUh?12:55
XenThraLno I went as root12:55
XenThraLif root can't change it then, well, I'm pretty sure I'm screwed12:55
doniek, you're screwed :)12:55
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XenThraLlol12:56
_dellfan_keith: ok, It just has a lot of features, my users like it very muach12:56
XenThraLI think the fix didn't work rather then me writing it12:56
jshamash66I am currently accessing my Ubuntu computers from other computers by typing its IP address in the address bar. Is there a way to do this using its computer name?12:56
keith_dellfan_: such as ?12:56
keith_dellfan_: are there any skin to make it look nice :D12:56
rasputnikjshamash66: if it has a dns entry, yes12:56
variantXenThraL: you can setup a udev rule that will tell it exactly where to be :)12:56
doniejshamash66: put an entry in your hsots file with teh ip first followed by the name12:56
XenThraLtell it what?12:56
variantXenThraL: you are having the soundcard issue right?12:57
XenThraLyes12:57
rasputnikdonie: but he'll have to do that for every client12:57
_dellfan_keith: the user can change his/her password, read mail, configure fetchmail, crontab, set web protected directories ...12:57
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donieuse dns so12:57
variantXenThraL: you have more than one soundcard?12:57
XenThraLI have 2 sound cards and their order keeps changing12:57
_dellfan_keith: it has skins12:57
jshamash66rasputnik: where is the hosts file located?12:57
doniewhat platform? jshamash6612:57
XenThraLwhen that happens, it makes the other one the default output one12:57
keith_dellfan_: I might check it out12:57
XenThraLand that sucks for several reasons12:57
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XenThraLmainly - I don't get any sound12:57
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jshamash66donie: WinXP12:58
rasputnikjshamash66: /etc/hosts on linux, but I wouldn' recoomend doing it that way12:58
doniec:/windows/system32/drivers/etc i think12:58
kromelXenThraL, I believe there is a way you can control the order.  let me see if I can find the link to the proper info.12:59
jshamash66rasputnik: how do I give it a DNS entry? is that like setting up a static IP?12:59
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donie10.1.2.3 myothercoumputer01:00
XenThraLkromel, would appreciate that thanks ;)01:00
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doniejshamash66: ^^^01:00
doniejshamash66: u need a DNS server on one of your machines01:00
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donieif  you want all the machines to use it01:00
doniebe easiest01:00
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anon32this should go to #wine, but how does saving and opening files work in WINE? does WINE redirect Windows-based file names to unix ones?01:01
rasputnikjshamash66: if you want everyone to be able to get to your box, it needs a name everyone knows - that's what dns is for. Is this a machine on DSL or something?01:01
whysowhat causes firefox to leak so much01:01
sidny4anybody here ever hear of navini?01:01
kromelXenThral, here is the link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114551    please read the entire thread carefully.01:01
XenThraLthanks kromel01:01
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rasputnikwhyso: wait til you try 2.0 - it's awful01:02
kromelXenThral, your looking for a post made from FarEast01:02
XenThraLspotted it01:02
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XenThraL"please try my solution" one right?01:02
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jshamash66rasputnik: we have an internal network that's all windows-based, we only use DNS for internet, which we rely on our IP provider to give us. (i think)01:03
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kromelXenThraL, going to find a better one, I was quick to jump.  Give me a few moments.01:03
viatorwine uses somthing similar to explorer for its file manager if i recallif you have a server most time the server provides the dns01:04
XenThraLok01:04
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KnifaWhile trying to install the latest updates it stops at "0% [Waiting for headers] "01:04
Knifais the server just busy?01:04
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viatorwhoops01:04
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viatormixed two posts01:04
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rasputnikjshamash66: so do you want the name to work everywhere, or just your network?01:04
jshamash66rasputnik: just the network01:05
variantXenThraL: sorry aboutthat.. ssh dissconeccted me01:05
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rasputnikjshamash66: right, then don't bother with dns. do the hostfile thing donie suggested01:05
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variantXenThraL: you can setup a udev rule that will always assign the same deivce to the same name01:05
XenThraLhum01:05
viatorfunny how network manager and network monitor show two different levels of connectivity01:05
rasputnikKnifa: yes (uk at least is very slow atm)01:05
XenThraLhow do I go about doing that?01:05
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wickedly_coolhey how would i go about recompiling an installation of ubuntu kernal to include a nvidia driver01:06
wickedly_cool?01:06
viator15  and 58% respectively01:06
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wickedly_coolhey how would i go about recompiling an installation of ubuntu kernal to include a nvidia driver01:06
viatoranyone ever notice that01:06
jshamash66rasputnik: but won't I lose the connection once the dynamic IP is changed?01:06
Warboanyone know the package that lets file roller open .debs?01:06
variantXenThraL: take a look at /etc/udev/rules.d/20-names.rules01:06
wickedly_coolhey how would i go about recompiling an installation of ubuntu kernal to include a nvidia driver01:06
viatornvidia driver?01:06
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viatorfor a graphics card?01:06
wickedly_coolfx 5200 128 m ram01:06
Warbowickedly_cool: Just use it as a module01:06
wickedly_coolyeah01:07
wickedly_coolues what as a module?01:07
viatoryea use a kernel module01:07
Warbowickedly_cool: is this for yourself, or some kind of live CD?01:07
variantwickedly_cool: apt-get install nvidia-driver-common nvidia-glx01:07
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pitt0071is ubuntu more stable than fedora guys?!01:07
rasputnikjshamash66: the ips on your network don't change. the ip the rest of the world uses to speak to your router probably does, but that's on a different network01:07
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kromelXenThral, may I send you a private message?01:07
rasputnikWarbo: just untar them01:07
variantpitt0071: yes, in my experiance anyway. besides.. fedora sucks on many different levels :)01:07
XenThraLsure01:07
variantXenThraL: you see the different rules there?01:08
XenThraLI just opened it01:08
XenThraLlooking for sound01:08
wickedly_cooli am about to make an install to get off windows... but i need my video card to work and it didnt last time i tried ubuntu actually i managed to get a kernel panic out of it01:08
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Warborasputnik: They are just tarballs? file roller says it can't handle them (it can on my ubuntu system, but this is a live CD). Please don't tell me that file roller goes by extensions?01:08
variantXenThraL: its not far in01:08
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pitt0071variant,  good,  two freezes on fedora when setting up..01:08
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pschulz01_!pptp01:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pptp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:09
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rasputnikviator: install nvidia-glx01:09
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Knifarasputnik: do you think it'll work eventually? D:01:09
rasputnikviator: then run nvidia-xconfig01:09
Warbotar doesn't work :(01:09
Warbo(on .deb I mean)01:09
XenThraLvariant, kromel found a forum link detailing exactly what I'm looking to do01:09
wickedly_cooli think windows and linux are about the same on stability but linux is much mor organized... and windows sucks with all the bugs/glitches/ and pet peeves....01:09
rasputnikKnifa: I just kill it and try again usually01:09
XenThraLthanks though I really appreciate the help01:09
XenThraLfrom both :)01:09
variantXenThraL: cool, best do that way then :)01:10
jshamash66rasputnik: ok, thanks for your help. So I should just add an entry to /etc/hosts with my IP, followed by the computer name?01:10
Knifarasputnik: tried that a few times but it's still doing it01:10
Knifa:(01:10
Knifaoh hurray01:10
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Knifait's going01:10
rasputnikWarbo: I must be thinking of something else :)01:10
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boricuaany reocmendations on a micro atx MB for ubuntu01:10
rasputnik!iscsi01:10
wickedly_coolwindows will add network adapters even though it's the same card but in a diffrent pci slot.... buggy01:10
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about iscsi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:10
wickedly_coolmy network says network adapter #5 but its the same one as 4,3,2, and 101:11
wickedly_cooljust doesnt show up01:11
rasputnikjshamash66: no :) you need to do that on each windows machine01:11
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WarboI made a package which depends on realplay, but now I want to get rid of the dependency so I need to open it up and change control.tar.gz01:11
cdavishow do I tell if ubuntu is detecting/utilizing my dual core laptop?01:11
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cipherHey01:12
cipheranyone use XFCE???01:12
rasputnikWarbo: isn't that what 'apt-get build' does?01:12
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rasputnikcdavis: cat /proc/cpuinfo01:12
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Warborasputnik: I was using dpkg -b, but probably01:12
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rasputnikWarbo: I don't know apt that well (it case it wasn't bloody obvious)01:13
cdavisrasputnik, thanks, its workign with two :)01:13
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wickedly_coolshould i go with dapper or the other one for nvidia drivers?01:13
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Knifainstall the beta ones01:13
juancahello everybody01:13
donie_how can you retrieve the batter status of laptop from command line?01:13
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cdavisI want to setup some aliases, like alias ll='ls -l --color=tty' what file do I put that in01:13
rasputnikanyone done iSCSI with ubuntu ?01:14
Knifacdavis: .bashrc i think?01:14
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Knifa~/.bashrc01:14
donie_pity iscsi doesnt work on mac os01:14
truiudonie_: cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state01:14
dougskodonie_: take a look in /proc01:14
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donie_ta truiu01:14
wrabbit^I can view DVDs and listen to mp3s but I can't view mp4 video files.   Can somebody pleaes help me out?01:14
wickedly_cooldapper or edgy?01:14
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cdavisKnifa, is there a place I can put it in so it uses that for root and normal users?01:14
rasputnikdonie_: doesn't work on ubuntu either by the look of it :)01:14
Knifacdavis: ah you mean like01:14
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Knifafor everything01:14
Knifaeveryone rather01:14
Knifanot sure for everyone01:14
cdavisk, thanks01:15
shwagany ideas why these processes are not going away on their own ?  http://pastie.caboo.se/1698701:15
shodanjr_grguys, i was wondeirng, if i do an image of a drive using DD, does the size of the image equal the TOTAL size of the drive? Or just the used space?01:15
Warboshodanjr_gr: total01:15
dougskoshodanjr_gr: the space used01:15
juancacan somebody help me to share printer in a home network.  I don't seem to be able to get it to work.  My laptop works on Windows and my PC is on Ubuntu 6.10.  Printer is connected to PC.01:15
shodanjr_grhm...01:15
Warboshodanjr_gr: but you can use "sparse files" to make the free space neglibible01:15
czer323Is there a way to tell the updater that you don't want to upgrade a particular package?  And to ignore it on subsequent updates?01:15
shodanjr_grcan you explain a bit more Warbo?01:15
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dougskoczer323: yeah, i forget exactly how you do it, but you can lock certain packages01:16
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Warboshodanjr_gr: every bit of the drive will be copied, every 0 and every 1. For the unallocated parts/unused parts then if they are, say, all 0 then instead of storing thousands of zeroes, Linux filesystems can remember that there should be thousands of zeroes, but not actually put them there because it would be a waste of space. That is called a "sparse" file01:17
czer323dougsko, I just tried that.  it didn't work.  I'm trying to uncheck the automatically installed option.  I'll tell you the result.01:17
wrabbit^Anybody know how to play mp4 videos in ubuntu?01:17
dougskoczer323: ok cool01:17
shodanjr_graha01:17
shodanjr_gris there a parameter i should use for the command? i wana do an image of my c: drive where windows is installed01:17
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rasputnikok, forget the iscsi bit - anyone do custom kernels much?01:18
dougskowrabbit^: i dont know what youre trying to play them with, but try vlc, that program literally plays _everything_01:18
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wrabbit^I'll install that now dougsko, thanks01:18
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dougskowrabbit^: yup :)01:19
rasputnikwondering if this looked familiar (building a module) http://pastie.caboo.se/1698801:19
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esaveello..this is the first time i have used ubuntu with the front end gnoome...i get a messagt 40 updates are ready to injstall.....starting with bind9 and so on..are these safe to install?e tha01:19
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rasputnikesave: yes01:20
bruenigesave, yes01:20
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esavesweet...i have always used debian...ubuntu rocks01:20
esaveany advice on how i should extract   .exe file contents?01:20
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esavei need the driver out of an exe for ndiswrapper01:20
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Ademan!svideo01:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about svideo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:21
Ademanhow can i set up my xorg.conf to output through svideo?01:21
_dellfan_!tvout01:22
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tvout - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:22
_dellfan_!tv-out01:22
dougskoAdeman: lol, good luck, ive been trying that for a while. youre best bet is to google around for example xorg.conf's01:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tv-out - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:22
joltI got a Nvidia problem... GLXInfo doesnt reconize my nvidia card.. but yet the drivers installed01:23
Ademandougsko: you want me to let you know if i can get it working?01:23
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Geoffrey2lesse, do I understand correctly that you can download an updated Ubuntu ISO, 6.06.1, that has a lot of the released patches already installed?01:23
dougskoAdeman: that would be wonderful :)01:23
LjLAdeman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV has info for setting tv out on nvidia cards01:24
LjL!msg the bot01:24
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops01:24
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LjLAdeman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition also01:25
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Spaceraverlinuxthis is odd... im getting very fluctuating speeds via apt-get... half the world must be updating their system01:29
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amicrawlewhere do i hook up my  wintv card in the back on my sound balster ?01:29
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Spaceraverlinuxline in amicrawle01:29
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amicrawleis that the blue or black  port01:30
XenThraLvariant, eh, the link I tried didn't really help, could you help me set up the udev rule ?01:30
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amicrawlebecuse the green is my sound out for my speakers01:30
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cafuegoline is is normally blue01:31
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tkoodaanyone here use the 'socklog' package?  -I think something is deleting my "/var/run/socklog-*" service dirs on reboot??01:31
cafuegogreen is out, mic is red01:31
Spaceraverlinuxshould read line in or have a small symbol that looks something like this ((()))01:31
amicrawleI need my hand held to get my wintvcard to work with my sound blaster 512 card  and one will help me ?01:31
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Dreamgliderhow do i get dvd and divx to play in ubuntu01:32
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LjL!dvd01:32
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages01:32
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Spaceraverlinuxaya... i have a 8mbit line now... and atm i only am downloading with 10kB/s01:33
sjbrownanyone know how i change the tone of my system bell under ubuntu?01:33
amicrawlei have a blue and a black port open01:33
newpZdoesnt anyone know if the GE EasyCam web camera is supported?01:33
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amicrawlethey both have the same (((0)))01:33
sidny4what are you talking about amicrawle?01:34
Spaceraverlinuxamicrawle, the blue should do it... the black one should be surround01:34
amicrawleok i hear no sound01:34
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Spaceraverlinuxdepends what you set the soundcard to do in the controls...01:34
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amicrawlei have line in and our on my wintv card01:34
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amicrawleit is a brooktree01:35
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Spaceraverlinuxamicrawle, use line out from the tv card to the line in on the soundblaster card01:35
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avagantAlright guys, serious question.01:35
amicrawlei did01:36
avagantI finally think I have my alsa/sound problem fixed.01:36
amicrawleall i have is capture  in my stetting  in kmix01:36
sidny4sweet, I'm tired of those sarcastic questions01:36
Spaceraverlinuxhm...01:36
Spaceraverlinuxlol sidny401:36
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amicrawledo i need a diffrent mixer01:37
avagantHowever, my issue is...a. in order to further optimize my sound should I do the .asoundrc thing?01:37
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avagantB. Do I have to load each and every module so I can "mix" sounds between oss and esd and alsa?01:37
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avagantC. Is there a way that when I log in or start up Ubuntu I can just make Alsa the default player?01:38
digeratessCan anyone tell me what are best practices for maintaining accessibility of files that need to be shared for multiple users? I'm (trying to be) a Windows convert, but I'm having difficulty understanding how to approximate the way you can assign ownership of a windows folder to a group and everyone in that group always has access to all the files. Thanks.01:38
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JosefKdigeratess: create a group for the users, and make sure to chmod the path +s (sticky) before people start saving files to it01:38
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avagant!aoss01:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about aoss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:39
avagantok then.01:39
Samuli^!alsa-oss01:39
ubotualsa-oss: ALSA wrapper for OSS applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10-1 (dapper), package size 48 kB, installed size 216 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 alpha amd64 arm armeb hppa m32r m68k mips mipsel powerpc ppc64 s390 s390x sh3 sh3eb sh4 sh4eb sparc)01:39
Samuli^is that what you wanted?01:39
avagantSo I do have to load that as a module or does it just happen?01:39
avagantI'm confused.01:39
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digeratessthanks, JosefK!01:39
carlfk_lapati mobility radon x700 on a laptop - how do I activate? the external vga port?  (fn-f8 ain't doing it)01:40
avagantI've got sound working, more than one thing at once, kill all esd yada yada.01:40
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avagantI'm just a little unclear if I have to add some lines to something somewhere (which I tried the other day and it actually made my sound worse)01:40
avagantOr should I just leave it, and be happy I have sound again.01:40
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patconnexionhello some one knows how to make video capture with vlc ?01:41
carlfk_lappatconnexion: is that the vnc client that makes a... .mov?01:41
Epidemikwhat would be the advantage of installing KDE as well as gnome?01:41
Samuli^avangat, I'd be just happy it works, but as far as I know, you just need to install alsa-oss with apt-get and it01:41
Samuli^'just works'01:41
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SpaceraverlinuxEpidemik, more choices and maybe more confusion01:42
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avagantThat's what I did.01:42
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avagantSo it just works?01:42
dougskoEpidemik: none01:42
Samuli^avagant, yeah :)01:42
avagantSee I've read all about this ".asoundrc" thing and don't know if I should do that or not.01:42
Epidemikso if i dont need it i shouldnt mess around with it?01:42
avagantBecause right now my sound works flawlessly.01:42
Samuli^don't do anything then.01:42
patconnexionvlc01:42
patconnexionsorry01:42
sidny4precicesly Epidemik01:42
Samuli^if it's not broken don't fix it :)01:42
avagantBut it's so tempting!01:43
avagantHeh01:43
Spaceraverlinuxif it aint broken dont fix it avagant !!01:43
Samuli^lol01:43
Epidemikokay thanks for the help01:43
Epidemikno point fixing something thats working01:43
Epidemikull just break it for real01:43
patconnexionvlc not vnc01:43
amicrawlei got alsa now what01:43
avagantI just don't know if I should do anything or not. I've had terribly awful luck with sound.01:43
SpaceraverlinuxSamuli^, you beat me to it01:43
sidny4ain't it the truth01:43
Epidemikdo any of you guys have dmix installed?01:43
Epidemik!dmix01:43
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems01:43
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avagantI'm working on so many reinstalls now my head is spinning.01:43
avagantIs that something you download, or is it something that's just suppose to be there, that dmix?01:44
avagantBecause apt-get install dmix turns up with nothing.01:44
Epidemikumm, i think it lets you have 2 audio sources play at once01:44
Epidemiki think... like teamspeak and a game (which i need for tournaments n such)01:44
avagantYah so I gathered.01:44
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sidny4anybody know why in cedega the alsa sound test fails?01:45
avagantit says it could not find dmix.01:45
sidny4sound works fine and everything01:45
avagantOR dmixer.01:45
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avagantneither of those give me any answers on apt-get01:46
[bash] hi all, I need some help with the following:01:46
shuanwho uses ubuntu lts?01:46
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Samuli^avagant, try apt-cache search dmix and see if anything comes up01:47
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[bash] I have a machine running ubuntu and another windows xp and the windows xp has internet and is connected to ubunto through 2 network cards, how can I make internet work on ubuntu01:47
avagantnope.01:47
avagantthat's what i just did, samuli.01:47
Samuli^k.01:47
avagant!dsnoop01:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dsnoop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:47
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sykes^How come XMMS can play MP3 but not amaroK?01:47
shuansykes get w32 codecs01:48
LjL!mp301:48
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:48
Spaceraverlinuxsykes^, did you install all codecs??01:48
LjLshuan: no need for w32codecs for mp3.01:48
sykes^Only ones I found is to convert mp3 to ogg, but I dont want that01:48
shuantrue01:48
dougskoavagant: if youre trying to get more than one source playing at once, try a different driver, like OSS01:48
shuanneed summin else01:48
LjLsykes^, read the first link above. there's an "mp3" section. do that.01:48
avagantno alsa works fine.01:48
dougskoavagant: oh ok01:48
avagantRight now I'm watching Bleach, listening to music and gaim sounds are playing.01:48
patconnexionsome one knows how to configure vlc to make video captures?01:48
crimsunavagant: what are you confused about?01:48
shuanmy ubuntu is asking if i want to upgrade to lts, should i do that?01:49
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Spaceraverlinuxshuan, you run dapper??01:49
avagantI'm just confused about the whole alsa thing, it works now just fine but I mean is there something else I have to do?01:49
sykes^LjL: I did, but it only say about converting, and I dont want to do that01:49
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crimsunavagant: what's the output from ``cat /proc/asound/modules''01:49
Spaceraverlinuxavagant, no need to do it if it works01:49
shuanspaceraverlinux: i dont even know what dapper is, im still exploring linux ubuntu01:50
crimsunavagant: if stuff is already working, then don't touch it.01:50
LjLsykes^: not true. just read it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-1340337f2ca1d0c54900935468515ba7630fcc59 - it specifically talks about Kubuntu and Amarok01:50
avagantit says 0 snd_via82xx01:50
tkoodadoes anyone here use the 'socklog' package??01:50
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crimsunavagant: it's dmixed and dsnooped by default.01:50
ruzgar!harddisk01:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about harddisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:50
ruzgarhow can I list my disks01:50
ruzgarin console01:50
ruzgar?01:50
crimsunavagant: those are both pcm plugins that are distributed as part of libasound2. You'd never notice.01:50
avagantSo I don't have to load up those pcm_blah blah blah modules?01:50
crimsunno, it happens transparently.01:51
johnficcadose anyone here have ibm t40 with wireless problems01:51
dougskopatconnexion: http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=11077&01:51
sykes^LjL: Cant see anything on the link you game me, only works on the older version, I use dapper)01:51
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sykes^gave01:51
LjLsykes^: see the section entitled "Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake)" ?01:51
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ruzgar!harddisc01:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about harddisc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:51
ruzgar!hard disc01:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hard disc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:52
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avagantOk, and is there a way to make Alsa the default player instead of when I start up it loading esd?01:52
avagantSo I don't have to keep hitting "killall esd"01:52
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[bash] anyone knows how I can resolve my problem?01:52
avagantLike right now it's up.01:52
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ruzgarhow can I list my discs ?01:53
sykes^LjL: I cant understand crap of that01:53
LjLsykes^: ok, just type "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs". but you really should learn to read and understand basic documentation, you won't get very far otherwise, i believe :(01:53
johnficcaok I guess not I'll check back latter01:53
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digeratessbash, try this: http://linuxweblog.com/xp-internet-connection-sharingd01:54
dn4i'm a few fries short of a happy meal01:54
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avagantI definitley had to search very cafefully to find that myself.01:54
sykes^LjL: I know, but I looked through, and the only thing I saw was how to install it in some player called K3B and juK01:54
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LjLsykes^: well, the first thing it says *is* to install libxine-extracodecs though01:54
ParisiHello01:54
avagantActually it's funny too, the sync works perfect in flash.01:54
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lumgwadaIs is possible to alter the gnome ftp folder settings to stop file replace confirmation? also can anyone suggest other settings to make the remote folder be less hangy on a slowish connection?01:55
sykes^LjL: Installed it but doesnt work, hmm01:55
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LjLsykes^: the installation succeded, though? are you actually on Ubuntu or Kubuntu?01:55
avagantBut is it possible to stop esd from showing up at all?01:55
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sykes^LjL: Ubuntu01:56
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LjLsykes^: and did the installation succeed? i say this because you need to have the Multiverse repository enabled to obtain that package01:56
avagantSync with flash is awesome.01:56
sykes^LjL: Got this message (In Swedish): Paketet libxine-extracodecs har ingen installationskandidat   - means like "Package libxine-extracodes does not have a isntallationcandidate"01:57
avagantYou've got to uncomment somethings first.01:57
LjLsykes^: ok, you need to enable multiverse01:57
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sykes^LjL: How do I do that?01:57
LjL!tell sykes^ about multiverse01:57
avagantGo to System > Adminstration > Software properities01:57
avagantYour list of repositories will come up.01:57
LjLsykes^: this should tell you. ask if you don't understand, but please try making it by yourself first01:57
sykes^LjL: Will do01:58
avagantOn every one that says "Source" click edit, and add on the ones that aren't checked.01:58
avagantIt too me a while to figure that out myself.01:58
avagant"took"01:58
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avagantTime to find me some more video game ost.01:58
sykes^LjL: It say multiverse aint free01:59
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dougskosykes^: its free as in beer, jus not free as in freedom02:00
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WoostaWhat package has /usr/src/linux/include in it? I thought it would have been linux-headers ..02:00
sykes^dougsko: Um, ok02:00
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dougskosykes^: www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html02:01
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dougskosykes^: or en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License02:01
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sykes^dougsko: Well, I can't find any download link02:01
dougskosykes^: im not sure what that means02:02
LjLsykes^: multiverse contains some non-free packages, but that doesn't mean you have to pay for them02:02
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sykes^LjL: Either way I can't find it, nor on google02:02
LjLsykes^: it either means that they're freeware but *not* under an open source license, or that they use dangerously patent encumbered stuff (like mp3)02:02
LjLsykes^: can't find what?02:02
sykes^LjL: Multiverse02:03
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LjLsykes^: ok, nevermind. type "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" in order to open your repository list for editing02:03
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myk3hello02:04
LjLsykes^: then find all the lines that begin with "deb", and after the various "main" and "restricted", add "universe multiverse"02:04
amx109anyone been having probelms with irc server lag using xchat in 6.10 beta?02:04
myk3im trying to connect to a wpa wifi network02:04
allawiHi guys .... can anyone get a forum by clicking on this link http://allawi.no-ip.org/ ... its not an add .. i have a problem02:04
sykes^LjL: Hah, the list is empty, it was text there before02:04
allawiad. ""02:04
LjLsykes^: empty?02:04
myk3can someone help me?02:04
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sykes^LjL: Nvm, typed wrong ;)02:05
avagantI don't like using xchat, I prefer Konversation.02:05
crippy-boyallawi, php isnt set up properly, or so it seems02:05
LjLah02:05
dougskomyk3: what chipset is your wifi card?02:05
pitt0071avagant, tried irssi? :)02:05
myk3i duno02:05
avagantEven if I'm running gnome, conversation makes me happy.02:05
myk3it is a airlink 10102:05
allawicrippy-boy, finally .. some help02:05
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dougskomyk3: well only certains ones work with it02:05
avagantpitt0071: Is that the command line one?02:05
sykes^LjL: LIke "deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main universe multiverse" ?02:05
LjLsykes^: make sure you add universe and multiverse to *all* lines that don't have it02:05
dougskomyk3: whats your wireless interface called?02:05
Spaceraverlinuxallawi, i get a file download... some phtml stuff02:05
Geoffrey2is there anyone in here who can tell me how to get clamav up and running?02:05
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myk3wlan002:06
pitt0071avagant, yes02:06
allawicrippy-boy, my quistion is how to set it up02:06
avagantHmm.02:06
LjLsykes^: yeah (though i find strange that there isn't a "restricted" on that line too...?)02:06
WoostaWhat is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]  /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-2602:06
WoostaThe path "/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-26" is an existing directory, but it does not contain a "linux" subdirectory as expected.02:06
Woosta^^ Anyone help me?02:06
sykes^LjL: There are, I just thought that I should remove it?02:06
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allawiSpaceraverlinux, thanx alot .. i know that but i wanna know how to set the php cfg file02:06
LjLsykes^: did i tell you to? :P02:06
avagantWell I tried bitchx and nirc (whatever it's called) and it didn't appease my irc'ing ways.02:06
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crippy-boyallawi, There are alot of tutorials/articles online, Best bet is looking at articles about setting up a LAMP server.02:06
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sykes^LjL: Yeah? ^^02:06
dougskomyk3: are you using ndiswrapper02:06
LjLsykes^: uh no... i said      after the various "main" and "restricted", add "universe multiverse"02:07
avagantI wonder if there's anything else I should get....should I get those alsaplayer plugins for esd and ect?02:07
myk3no02:07
myk3i cna run02:07
crippy-boyallawi, I cant really help much because i dont have all that much experience with apache/php.02:07
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allawicrippy-boy, I did it by using the help on wiki.ubuntu.com ... but i cant find how to set it up02:07
myk3iwlist wlan0 scan02:07
myk3and see my network02:07
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Knifarawr!02:07
sykes^LjL: I know, I was joking :P02:08
sykes^LjL: Added that now02:08
allawicrippy-boy, thanx alot for your help anyway .... aftera all, you tried02:08
WoostaNM .. found it02:08
LjLsykes^: ok :P when you're finished, save and exit using Ctrl+X02:08
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avagantBut anyways SHOULD I set up that .asoundrc file?02:08
avagantI've got alsa working just fine, but I want to make sure..02:08
crippy-boyallawi, Im not too sure then, Just check the mods you made to httpd.conf02:08
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sykes^Aight02:08
myk3the chipset is Zydas02:08
shodanjr_grWarbo are you there mate?02:08
shodanjr_grapparently not :P02:08
LjLsykes^: then type "sudo apt-get update", and then try again installing libxine-extracodecs02:09
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allawicrippy-boy, in which dir. ??02:09
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crippy-boyallawi, It looks as though the php pages arent getting fed to the interpreter, so the server is just chucking the php sources at ya.02:09
amicrawlewhat is a good dvr app for ubnutu02:09
dougskomyk3: please preface your replies with my nick so i can see them :)02:09
amicrawlei know that beos has a very good one02:09
shodanjr_grCan someone give me the full syntaxt of the DD command in order to make a "compressed" image of my c: partition onto my d: partition while in Ubuntu?02:09
crippy-boyallawi, Did you have to edit a config file?02:09
myk3dougsko: sorry the chipset id Zydas02:09
AdemanI GOT MY SVIDEO OUT WORKING02:09
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myk3dougsko: is Zydas02:09
allawicrippy-boy, i did change some ips .. thats all02:10
avagantI got my audio working period!02:10
avagantHurray for us!02:10
avagantGuys I'm not too thrilled with gaim unfortunetly.02:10
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LjLamicrawle: well,  i can see an app in the repos that's actually called "dvr"02:10
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efrancolaportehey i was wondering if somebody could tell me if theres an application i could easilly install to resize my NTFS partition and enlarge my Ext3 one02:10
styluswhich development tools do I need to get from apt-get to help me compile stuff?02:10
LjLefrancolaporte: GPartEd should do that, i think. and you have it already installed.02:10
Ademanefrancolaporte: GParted02:10
sykes^LjL: Weird, still doesnt work02:10
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allawicrippy-boy, /etc/apache2/apache2.conf02:10
amicrawlewith gui ?02:11
Ademanefrancolaporte: use the GParted LiveCD though02:11
LjLsykes^: what does it say? (if the error is long, paste to the pastebin -- and don't bother translating, i can read the swedish)02:11
efrancolaporteyeah its not in the terminal command line eh02:11
stylusanyone have a clue? I just need stuff like gcc etc.02:11
efrancolaportei have to reboot using Ubuntu's CD eh...02:11
sykes^LjL: Oh ok02:11
LjL!b-e > stylus02:11
dougskomyk3: oh, you might need to install the wpa Supplicant02:11
crippy-boyallawi, yep02:11
sykes^!pastebin02:12
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:12
efrancolaporteas long as it doesnt mess my current Ubuntu OS it's all good i still have my live CD02:12
dougskomyk3: but still only some drivers support it02:12
efrancolaportethanks02:12
myk3dougsko: i allready did install that02:12
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sykes^LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26220/02:12
allawidoes reinstall php will solve anything ??02:12
shodanjr_grCan someone give me the full syntaxt of the DD command in order to make a "compressed" image of my c: partition onto my d: partition while in Ubuntu? (so that the image does not included empty space)02:13
LjLsykes^: well, first, open your /etc/apt/sources.list again. you've typed "univere" instead of "universe" somewhere02:13
sykes^LjL: Bah02:13
allawicrippy-boy, will reinstalling pho solve anything ???02:13
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allawicrippy-boy,  php02:13
dougskomyk3: is this a pci card?02:13
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LjLsykes^: but, besides that, it seems that the package was actually installed, i think02:13
myk3dougsko: no usb card02:13
myk3dougsko: well usb dongle02:13
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tortoise_wow rhythmbox is very cpu intensive, worse than amarok!02:14
crippy-boyallawi, Possibly but i doubt it, im pretty sure its something to do with the apache config, You might be best reading up a little, I really dont have much experience with apache beyond serving static pages and such02:14
crippy-boyAmaroK rocks :P02:14
allawicrippy-boy,  thanx alot ... I'm out of here02:15
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tortoise_gonna try banshee02:15
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letarteHello, Can I get some help?02:15
orbintortoise_: try listen and exaile too02:15
sykes^LjL: Gah, still doesnt play02:15
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MaKaTiGuYneed some help guys02:16
fluvvellavagant, what do you not like about gaim?02:16
letarteHow do I use Synaptic Package Manager :S02:16
LjLsykes^: have you closed and reopened amarok after installing the new package? (note that you must close it from the system tray -- closing the window alone isn't enough)02:16
Ademani heard banshee is pretty good but i dunno02:16
jribubotu: tell letarte about synaptic02:16
MrTillyletarte: what is confusing you about synaptic?02:16
crippy-boyWhats wrong with amarok?02:16
LjLsykes^: also, i'm using Kubuntu, so perhaps there might be something i'm missing about Amarok in Ubuntu...02:16
sykes^LjL: Wow I'm stupid02:16
letarteHow do I use Synaptic Package Manager :S02:16
Ademanfluvvell: i use it, but it has very iffy direct connection support... as far as i know its the best AIM client out there right now (for linux) though02:16
sykes^LjL: Works now (forgot it in the tray) thanks :)02:17
LjL!synaptic > letarte02:17
letartelol ok02:17
letarteWell im tryin to get Wine to work but I dont know how?02:17
AdemanLjL: do you remember who it was that was having trouble with SVIDEO besides me? i got mine working02:17
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LjLsykes^: cool ;)  now, by the way, have a look in your Synaptic... you'll see you'll have "a few" more package available than before02:17
MrTilly!synaptic > mrtilly02:17
Ademanletarte: what program are you wanting to use it with?02:17
jribAdeman: dougsko02:17
LjLademan: dougsko02:17
fluvvellAdeman, yeah I use it quite a lot.  File sends and receives seem ok, but maybe voice and video additions to complement msn would help?02:17
sykes^LjL: Aight02:17
letarteStarcraft02:17
letarteMaybe Steam with its Games02:17
letartelike DoD and CS02:18
crippy-boyMercury messenger for voice and vid support.02:18
Ademanfluvvell: from what i've heard theres a new version of gaim thats very good, but i'm not willing to install from source02:18
dougskomyk3: http://sourceforge.net/search/?forum_id=326770&type_of_search=forums&group_id=94356&words=wpa02:18
LjLsorry jrib, was typing with window scrolled up :)02:18
dougskoAdeman: nice job02:18
sykes^Oh yeah, how come the sound sucks in amarok and not XMMS?02:18
Ademandougsko: if you're interested i could paste my xorg.conf02:18
dougskoAdeman: could i see a paste of your xorg?02:18
Ademanhehe02:18
Ademansure thing02:18
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fluvvellAdeman, yeah thems the breaks when you want something to fit in with your distro overall eh? ;-)02:18
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myk3dougsko: i have a 1211 driver02:18
letarteAdeman: can you help me?02:19
TigerWolfIs there a way to reset all settings for alsa and oss as ive screwed them up and have no sound atm02:19
Ademanletarted: so you've installed wine?02:19
fluvvellAdeman, I've used it previously with mandrake a few years ago, and still wished I could use the more up-to date copies.  But at least there is a settling down time and debugging that happens this way.02:19
LjLsykes^: hmm... i think i've seen that happen. i don't really know, but perhaps you should go into Amarok's xine configuration (Settings / Configure Amarok / Xine), and select "esd" (or failing that, "alsa") as the output device02:19
jordanCan somebody help me with remapping F12 to be a right click?02:19
sykes^Or no, the sounds sucks in both XMMS and amarok :D02:19
LjLsykes^: ah then perhaps you simply have the gain set too high in the mixer02:20
myk3dougsko: how do i associate with a mac?02:20
dougskomyk3: im not sure about that driver, that forum i linked to will be more help than i could be02:20
dougskomyk3: no idea02:20
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sykes^LjL: The what?02:21
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Geoffrey2can anyone help me get clamav up and running?02:21
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LjLstylus: the gain... some soundcards have another setting, besides the master volume, which controls the loudness -- and may get sound out distorted if it's set to high02:21
letarteAdeman: check your pm02:21
Ademanok02:22
sykes^LjL: The music sounds like its played on a speak someone have cut with a knife02:22
shodanjr_grguys im wondering02:22
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sykes^LjL: Like all rosty and stuff02:22
Ademanletarted: i don't see a PM02:22
shodanjr_grim installing ubuntu02:22
LjLstylus: doesn't necessarily has to be called "gain" though in the mixer02:22
TigerWolfIs there a way to reset all settings for alsa and oss as ive screwed them up and have no sound atm02:22
letartehmmm02:22
LjLstylus: does XMMS still do that even if you close down amarok?02:22
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Ademandougsko: sorry my normal paste site is down, gonna use the ubuntu one02:22
dougskoAdeman: ok cool02:22
shodanjr_grand i am at the partitioner screen. I want to have the partitioner use the 11 gigs of unpartitioned space on my drive. I assume i have to do the partitions manual. How should i set them up?02:22
LjLsykes^, the two messages i addressed to stylus were for you. sorry stylus02:22
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letarteAdeman: I just told you my whole problem in a PM02:22
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LjLstylus: the three messages, actually02:23
LjLargh02:23
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LjLsykes^: you02:23
sykes^LjL: Think I fixed it, lowered the PCM some02:23
Ademanletarte: didn't get to me then, sorry, join #ademan02:23
letartek02:23
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LjLsykes^: well, then it probably was something akin to what i was thinking. perhaps see if you can find a third slider (besides master and PCM) which somehow controls volume02:24
Ademandougsko: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26221/    i can show you the important lines if you'd like02:24
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sykes^LjL: Nah it's ok, the sound is "perfect" now :) Thanks for everything02:24
LjLyou're welcome02:24
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dougskoAdeman: i think i can figure it out, but if i have a Q, ill ask. thanks :)02:25
jordanHow can I map a key to be eqivilent to pressing the right mouse button ( I am on a mac and need a way to right click )?02:25
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viatorget a mouse with more buttons02:26
Ademandougsko: sure :-)  just fyi the Devices MUST have Screen X  specified (and it must be a number NOT a string) 0 and 1 reffer to the order they occur in the xorg.conf   0 first 1 second and so on  (NOTE: this only applies to single card -> multiple output scenarios)02:26
shodanjr_grCan anyone help with my partitioning woes?02:26
sykes^Is there any free cd/dvd-burning program for linux btw?02:26
dougskoAdeman: sweet. so when you want to watch tv, you just plug in the svideo and restart X?02:27
jordanviator, It's a laptop and that isn't very convienient.02:27
viatori see02:27
Ademandougsko: OH, hahaha i thought you wanted to output your computer screen to your tv...02:27
sykes^!burning02:27
ubotuCD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto02:27
dougskoAdeman: i do02:28
viatormaybe system>prefrences>keyboard02:28
Ademanoh alright, when you said "watch tv" i thought you meant like, watch cable or something02:28
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dougskoAdeman: nah, just like watch a movie off your box on the tv02:28
Ademanbut yeah, i actualyl don't know, i may not evne have to restart X as long as that stuff is in the xorg.conf02:28
Ademanoh, yep02:28
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montgoejhey, can someone help me with a VMWare-player issue?02:31
MaKaTiGuY^how can i mount my other partition drive?02:31
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montgoejI can't remove it02:31
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letarteI have a problem02:31
letarteI did thuis02:31
letartehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26222/02:32
letarteeveryone take a look02:32
letartetell me whats wrong02:32
whyameyeThe window decorations for compiz have disappeared. How might I troubleshoot this?02:32
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jordanwhyameye, You might find better luck @ #ubuntu-XGL02:32
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FearBSDi have no optical drive here. how can i install ubuntu? (i'm on win)02:33
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jordanFearBSD, DO you have a 1 gig flash drive?02:34
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FearBSDyes02:34
lostincHi I installed Ubuntu from the LTS 6.06 CD onto a laptop. This laptop uses a D-Link PCMCIA card for etho conn. When I was in Live mode it had no issues going to the net. When it rebooted into the harddrive version I lost the etho conn02:34
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FearBSDi carry it right now on my neck02:34
lostincAny ideas?02:34
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FearBSDjordan: but i don't know wether this mainboard here supports usb boot or not!02:35
jordanFearBSD, You can install from that, I don't know off hand how but I'll search for a tutorial.02:35
FearBSDjordan: thanks02:35
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jordanFearBSD, You could also install it onto a hard drive from a computer with an opticle drive then swap the drive.02:36
FearBSDjordan: this is not possible atm. i think the board supports it. Ground Zero:02:37
FearBSDI have a kt6 delta main board (3 years old) and it suports booting from usb. I know that most bo02:37
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FearBSDjordan: found this on google02:37
FearBSDyou found the guide?02:37
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host`what do you guys think is the best all around window manager? in terms of stability, speed and options02:38
letartehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26222/    what did i do wrong here02:38
jordanFearBSD, Not yet, The basics I believe are to copy the contents of the liveCD to the thumb drive, then use syslinux to make it bootable.02:38
TigerWolfWhat do i do if my /proc/asound directory is missing and how do i get it back?02:38
letartehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26222/    what did i do wrong here02:39
host`excuse me, best all around "desktop environment"02:39
FearBSDjordan: is this possible from within a windows system?02:40
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host`letarte, something else has that dir locked02:40
jordanFearBSD, Yes.02:40
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letartehost`: how do i find out?02:40
host`close anything else that could be using that dir02:40
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letarteOk02:40
letartewould XChat use it>?02:40
TigerWolfWhat do i do if my /proc/asound directory is missing and how do i get it back?02:41
fr33mindWhen I'm full screen with terminal client, how to switch to my ubuntu desktop instead of the terminal client?02:41
dougskohost`: ive been using fluxbox for years and think its the best, but everyone has their fav02:41
host`close synaptic or any other package manager02:41
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O2Hello, everyone02:41
letartehost`: OMG THANKS YOU02:42
host`no prob02:42
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host`letarte, if you slow down and look at the error messages, a lot of time you'll figure out what you have to do to fix the problem even if your a linux noob like me02:43
host`I saw that one a few days ago myself02:43
host`something similar at least02:43
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letartehost`: its just im tryin to install wine02:43
letarteand im not getting it to work02:44
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DarkrhaveNgood evening02:44
DarkrhaveNanyone awake ?02:44
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host`DarkrhaveN, hello02:45
O2I wonder... in the system-monitor, the user-ram means in use or free ram?02:45
letartehost`: can u help me ???02:45
letartecome to #hostya02:45
host`with what?02:45
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O2anyone can help?02:45
DarkrhaveNgood evening host02:45
FearBSDanybody can tell me how i can make the livecd bootable from usb flashdrives?02:46
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jordanFearBSD, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1062799&postcount=10002:46
MaKaTiGuY^how can i mount my other partition drive?02:47
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BlueEagleo2: user ram would probably be the ram availible to the user (ie. not tied up by kernel and/or system processes)02:47
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BlueEagleo2: ...and that's just a guess.02:47
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w30I have an ipp protocol print server on 192.168.1.250 but the printer doesn't tell my spool when it is done printing. Is there an entry in cupsd.conf I am missing? or need?02:47
BlueEagleo2: user ram would probably include cache too.02:47
BlueEagle...or not.02:48
FearBSDthx man02:48
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DarkrhaveNheh02:48
DarkrhaveNis ubunto taxing on hardware, like windows is ?02:48
DarkrhaveNwow02:48
DarkrhaveNI should be shot for that spelling error02:48
DarkrhaveNubuntu02:48
BlueEagle!enter02:48
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.02:48
zenwhenw30: have you tried this configuration? http://occy.net/printing02:48
shadowhywindHi all, I am having issues with my wireless, dhcpcd wont grab an IP anymore, any ideas?02:48
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BlueEagledarkrhaven: You should be shot for !enter. :p02:49
DarkrhaveNblueeagle: probably, old irc habit02:49
w30zenwhen, nope, but I will, thanks.02:49
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VornotronUbuntu - and Linux in general - is not very resource intensive unless you run a lot of resource-intensive stuff.02:49
Samuli^DarkrhaveN, it really depends on what you're running on it.02:49
LjLDarkrhaveN: i personally find both Ubuntu and Kubuntu a bit more hardware-voracious than Windows XP. that's just me though, never made any measurements of any sorts02:50
host`Shadowhywind, do an iwlist wlan0 scan02:50
zenwhenw30: that has been the magic bullet for me02:50
robertj_should I be able to use my bluetooth headset as a microphone?02:50
VornotronWindows is mainly so heavy because it's doing a lot of stuff in the default setup.02:50
sethkLjL, depends on what you run, of course02:50
BlueEagledarkrhaven: And as for your question "taxing" is a question of definition. X and gnome would roughly equal win98 or so I guess. Still the applications you choose to run can be as taxing as anything.02:50
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LjLsethk: well, yeah, i'm thinking about the standard stuff mostly. the desktop, office apps, a browser...02:50
shadowhywindhpst', yah did that, nodda02:50
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gifproblem: I get a black screen when I'm trying to boot the live cd. I guess the display driver is the problem. my video card is a nvidia 5900 and the version of ubuntu is 6.0602:51
Samuli^I pretty sure gnome is runs slower than win98 on older computers.02:51
shodanjr_grHow do i configure the order of boot items in Grub?02:51
FearBSD!edgy02:51
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule02:51
ruffleshello there. what's the difference between apt-get clean and apt-get autoclean ?02:51
BlueEagleshodanjr_gr: /boot/grub/menu.lst02:51
host`is your instead of wlan0 use what you would usually use to dhcp though02:51
Samuli^it doesn't take up too much ram, but just.. feels sluggish.02:51
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sethkLjL, oh, all that low overhead stuff.02:51
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shodanjr_grthx BlueEagle02:51
shadowhywindhost`, i know the scan completed02:51
BlueEagleshodanjr_gr: That's the file you'll need to edit so ALT+F2 and type in: gksudo /boot/grub/menu.lst02:51
BlueEaglebahh02:51
host`nothing?02:52
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BlueEagleshodanjr_gr: make that gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst02:52
jordanSamuli^, Have you tried XFCE?02:52
LjLsethk: well, that's what most people mostly use i think02:52
shadowhywindit returned some restults, but no ip02:52
Mik3!schedule02:52
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule02:52
DarkrhaveNBlueEagle: and Ubuntu is good for users who've never touched a linux o/s in thier entire lives ?02:52
Samuli^jordan, yes. It's nice.02:52
berniemy top bar rearranged itself, how can i move3 the icons02:52
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host`shadowhywind, try doing dmesg02:52
sethkLjL, many, definitely, fortunately not me.02:52
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shadowhywindif i manually add a ip, i can see the setuppage for the router, but i can not get to any webpages02:52
host`shadowhywind, make sure you set the essid02:52
Samuli^I felt that KDE run better on my older comp than gnome did. It was the sweetspot with functionality and speed.02:53
BlueEagledarkrhaven: It's not the worst place in the world to start, however since the focus is on open source software entirely you'll find that you've got trouble playing much media out of the box. (Ie. you'll need to add codecs for mp3 et al.02:53
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shadowhywindi am using wpa_supplicant, and i have been able to connect for the last 2 weeks, just today its acting werid02:53
host`shadowhywind, 'iwconfig wlan0 essid essidnamehere'02:53
shadowhywindalso the only semi-werid thing in dmesg is [17179892.988000]  wlan0: no IPv6 routers present02:53
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david__the sound on flash videos under firefox is lagging behind the video02:54
host`you should se something else relating to it other than the IPv6 thing02:54
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gifproblem: I get a black screen when I'm trying to boot the live cd. I guess the display driver is the problem. my video card is a nvidia 5900 and the version of ubuntu is 6.0602:55
sethkdavid__, turn down the lights, maybe the video will go slower02:55
host`shadowhywind, there should be another entry for wlan0 before that on telling you that the hardware is present or something02:55
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viatorif you just install gnome network manager you get wpa02:55
gif(I don't want to flood here, I just did not get an answer)02:55
viatorand wpa 202:55
DarkrhaveNBlueEagle, are there many books on Ubuntu ?02:55
shadowhywindwell yah, all the other entries are normal02:55
sethkgif, use the text mode install on the alternate cd02:56
BlueEagledarkrhaven: Imo ubuntu is the best free (as in beer) starter distro. However linspire was looking quite well in beta bar some stability issues and the fact that linspire uses KDE. :)02:56
david__sethk.... huh??02:56
sethkgif, if your purpose of using the live cd is to install02:56
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gifthere is only one cd02:56
sethkdavid__, huh which?02:56
sethkgif, no, there are three02:56
david__sethk.... turn down the lights?02:56
Samuli^BlueEagle, nothing wrong with KDE, really :)02:56
TigerWolfcan someone send me their /etc/modules file so i can find out whats wrong with mine?02:56
host`mine says the IPv6 thing to, but I also have another entry saying that it's present basically(but I need to update my driver)02:56
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sethkdavid__, oh, that was an attempt at humor02:56
gifyup, that's what I am trying to do02:56
david__sethk ah02:56
Geoffrey2can I just double-click on a .deb to install it?02:56
david__k02:56
DarkrhaveNI dunno i'm gunna order up some cd's and build a box02:56
DarkrhaveNand see02:57
sethkBlueEagle, I use kde on all of my ubuntu boxes, except servers (which don't use desktops at all)02:57
DarkrhaveNI gotta get rid of windows before vista hits02:57
BlueEagledarkrhaven: There's been written an official ubunty book, however much of what you find in other books is really linux and/or package spesific and not distro spesific. Ie. you've got access to all packages (well almost) in ubuntu as you do in redhat, mandriva et al.02:57
david__so, the fix is to wait for an update to flash from adobe then....02:57
DarkrhaveNthats all I know.02:57
TigerWolfGeoffrey2: you should be able to02:57
LjLGeoffrey2: thanks to gdebi, you should be able to. note that third-party .debs might break things.02:57
host`make sure to set your essid, and you might have to ifdown everything else like the eth0 for the wlan0 to work02:57
viatorif you want kde i recommend mepis02:57
jordanHow can I map a key to be eqivilent to pressing the right mouse button ( I am on a mac and need a way to right click )?02:57
BlueEagledarkrhaven: What are you using your computer for?02:57
gifsethk: I only received 1 cd02:57
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DarkrhaveNalot of different things02:57
Samuli^mepis is not bad, but it's not ubuntu either ;)02:58
shadowhywindthats something i haven't tried yet, setting eth0 down and dhcpcd wlan002:58
DarkrhaveNas of lately, its been downloading music, myspace, aim and irc02:58
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BlueEagledarkrhaven: let me rephrase: Do you play lots of games or view lots of flash stuff?02:58
sethkgif, download the alternate cd image and burn it onto a cd02:58
rufflesSamuli^: mepis is based on ubuntu as far as i'm concerned02:58
DarkrhaveNI hardly play any games, unless they're emulated console games02:58
shadowhywindthis might be the problem [17180693.348000]  ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready02:58
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sethkgif, there are things you can try, but the probability of them succeeding is low.02:58
Samuli^ruffles, it is. funnily enough ubuntu is based on debian and now mepis is based on ubuntu. Uses the same repos etc.02:59
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sethkgif, the other think I'd recommend is installing the preceding version of ubuntu, and then upgrading.02:59
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Samuli^ruffles, but still, I find ubuntu better than mepis for the difference there is.02:59
BlueEagledarkrhaven: those four are well catered for in linux.02:59
gifok, any references where I can find the information for these other things?02:59
rufflesSamuli^: well.. that's something personal i guess02:59
avagantI want the newer Konversation but it's not in the repositories and I'm on Ubuntu, is there anyway I can get it from the repositories?02:59
jordandavid__, You can install wine and windows firefox and use the windows version of flash.02:59
rufflesSamuli^: i prefer ubuntu as well02:59
david__ah02:59
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budwhere do i put python scrips to make them work02:59
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sethkbud, they don't have to be in any particular place03:00
baconbaconbud, theu can work anywhere if you make them executable03:00
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host`wow, I jsut realized that my L2 chache is set at 256K03:00
host`I have 512K L2 cache03:00
budok thanks03:00
BlueEagledarkrhaven: For aim I recomend gaim or kopete. For downloading I recomend you actually BUY stuff for irc I recomend irssi or xchat and for myspace I recomend Opera or firefox.03:00
Geoffrey2what's a good PSX emulator for Ubuntu?03:00
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O2BlueEagle: I have 1GB ram, and running only firefox, and xchat, then I only have no more than 300MB ram left free?03:01
host`would upgrading to the 686 kernel fix that or would I need to compile a kernel for it to recognize that?03:01
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sethkO2, that can be misleading03:01
baconbaconhost`: wouldn't cache settings be at the bios level03:01
rufflesSamuli^: did you know that mepis uses like 70% of packages straight from ubuntu repos?03:01
LjLGeoffrey2: the only one i can see in the repos is pcsx03:01
wrabbit^anybody able to help me out with the simplest of c code?03:01
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BlueEagleo2: Why do you want ram to just sit there? It's a good thing to cache stuff you know so you can read from memory instead of from the disks.03:02
rufflesand even more...03:02
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BlueEagleo2: ie. free memory is in most cases wasted memory.03:02
avagantHow do I get the newer conversation without untaring it?03:02
avagantI'm on Ubuntu.03:02
sethkO2, linux does not recover memory released by an app until the kernel needs to give that memory to some other process.  So the amount of memory in use for a given process if often much higher than the real value.03:02
BlueEagleo2: You can add what is cached to the amount of free memory and get the amount of memory availible to applications.03:02
host`baconbacon, I would think so.. but the kernel is just recognizing the 25603:02
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LjL!anybody > wrabbit^03:02
sethkO2, so what it means is that most of your memory has been used, not that most of your memory is unavailable.03:02
baconbacon!konversation03:02
sedrakeif I have 1 ubuntu partition and 1 xp partition, with grub.. is it eaasy to just install a new windows partition and get it in bootloader?03:02
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O2BlueEagle: After I close firefox, and the user-ram became 240.  it's 280 before03:03
sethksedrake, easy for me.  Some people claim they have trouble doing it.03:03
k0rdany idea why my install is freezing up?03:03
k0rdIm using a ubuntu disc straight from Ubuntu03:03
k0rdso thats not it03:03
wrabbit^LjL: harsh03:03
sethksedrake, windows has to be on the first partition of primary master, and you'll have to reinstall the boot loader if windows clobbers it.03:03
Tru7h_Can I install a printer for Ubuntu that's attached to another computer on my LAN, a Windows XP?03:03
LjLk0rd: that's no reason to exclude it... printed CDs may still come out wrong03:03
sethkk0rd, use the text mode install from the alternate cd03:03
k0rdWell they sent me 6 discs03:04
jordan02, But you probably never touch swap.03:04
viatoryou want to rightclick?03:04
k0rdSo i'll try another one03:04
O2sethk: I think you are right! user-ram must be how much ram we used03:04
BlueEagleo2: as sethk also pointed out. Linux doesn't clean up the memory unless it's about to run out. The memory that is not used at the moment does not equal the memory availible to applications.03:04
viatoron your mac03:04
sethkTru7h_, you can, and you use samba to make it look like a windows printer to the windows boxes.03:04
jordanviator, Yes.03:04
viatorYou could use the 'mouseemu' package (in the Universe repository). You can set it up to use e.g. Ctrl-click as right click etc03:04
rufflesis there any shortcut for pc locking already set on gnome?03:04
BlueEagleo2: As a general rule: You've got enough memory unless you notice the paging to swal.03:04
BlueEagleswap*03:04
sethkBlueEagle, right, that was what I think I said, although perhaps I wasn't clear.03:04
Tru7h_sethk: Alright. How do I do that?03:04
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jordanviator, When I install mouseemu it breaks the mouse completely ( I can no longer move the cursor )03:05
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dougskoruffles: theres always xlock...i dont know if that fulfills what youre trying to do though03:05
sethkTru7h_, CUPS can do most of it for you.03:05
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viatorheh sometimes03:05
rufflesdougsko: i've found it already.. it's control+alt+l :)03:05
sethkTru7h_, there is a printing howto that is supposed to be quite good.  It might be...03:05
sethk!printing03:05
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows03:05
rufflesthanks anyway03:05
wrabbit^Would this be correct if I were to work out somebodies age in days, hours, minutes and seconds? (365*age)*24 / (60 * 60), days, hour, min, sec)03:05
Tru7h_sethk: Thanks!03:05
dougskoruffles: np03:05
sethkTru7h_, check that out.03:05
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Tru7h_I'll do that.03:06
turtletimeIs there any major difference betwwen ubuntu and kubuntu, besides window managers?03:06
BlueEagleo2: Here's a trick for you: Open a console and type: free -m03:06
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plsubuntu 6.06.1 i3  <--- is this still desktop version ?03:06
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rufflesturtletime: nope03:06
turtletimecoo03:06
sethkTru7h_, come back if you still have questions, but you'll find most of what you need, hopefully all.03:06
plsI have it on disk and wanna know if its desktop or server03:06
O2the user-ram is 240MB.  After I run a emule, it became 24603:06
BlueEagleo2: look at how much swap you've been using. If it's more than say 32 then you might want to have a look-see at what's going on. :)03:06
NewRhyme!vm03:06
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plsubuntu 6.06.1 i3  <--- is this still desktop version ?03:06
plsI have it on disk and wanna know if its desktop or server03:06
NewRhyme!VMware03:07
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare03:07
O2swap, 0 byte, total 1GB03:07
bruenigpls, that is not enough information, to tell. There is ubuntu 6.06.1 i386 server and ubuntu 6.06.1 desktop03:07
rufflespls: it can be both depending on you03:07
plsbruenig, any way of finding out ?03:07
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bruenigput it in and see what options it gives you03:07
plsI'm running on windows ATM, its in the CD-Drive03:07
plswhere do i go to see what it is ?03:07
viatorjordan try f1203:07
bruenigturn the computer off and then reboot with it in the drive03:07
turtletimeWhats the best software to use to play windows games in ubuntu?03:07
O2OK, I should take user-ram as the ram are in used!03:07
Tru7h_sethk: It mensions installing a printer using the printer wizard as the first step, but it doesn't elaborate. That's what I'm having troubles with ATM.03:08
plsbruenig, a solution without having to boot ?03:08
turtletimeIs wine the best?03:08
rufflespls: you can get a server or desktop workin' from within apt-gets03:08
NewRhyme!okle03:08
dougskoturtletime: wine/cedega03:08
ubotuokle: DVD player for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4+cvs20040728-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 127 kB, installed size 612 kB03:08
rufflesturtletime: crossover office is really good03:08
BlueEagleo2: Why is it important?03:08
bruenigpls that is the easiest way. You could probably extract the iso and see what kind of files are in it03:08
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O2Oh, then, ubuntu really cost less ram than windowsxp03:08
rufflesturtletime: oh i'm sorry.. it's not for games thouhg03:08
plsbruenig, its extracted, what can i go to on the disk, to find out03:08
rufflesthough*03:08
plsI'm looking at the files right now03:08
jordanviator, Doesn't work, it did when macs had their own specific version ( PPC Ubuntu ) but now they use the same version as PCs, so F12 doesn't work by default as right click.03:08
BlueEagleo2: Well that's given.03:09
BlueEagle:)03:09
O2BlueEagle: why not? I want to know, : )03:09
bruenigpls, well I have never looked at the server iso or the desktop iso for that matter, but look around for some graphical apps. If there are graphical apps, that means desktop03:09
gifhow do I get to the console when booting with 6.06?03:09
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bruenigthings such as gnome would probably be a big tip off that it is desktop03:09
gifbooting from the cd...03:09
plsyes the splash screen pops up and gives me an option to try out ubuntu witout install, it has Firefox, Grub..etc03:09
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O2who can tell me why my realplayer plays rm file very slowly...03:10
fildojust to confirm . Ext3 / is user  partition ?03:10
jordanturtletime, Wine is the best FREE program, Cediga costs money but is better with games.03:10
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bruenigpls, desktop it is then03:10
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plsbruenig, thanks03:10
turtletimejordan: thanks03:10
BlueEaglegif: Applications -> accessories -> terminal03:10
BlueEaglegif: or CTRL+ALT+F103:10
dougskopls: yeah you can install any of the apps from the repos, no matter if its a "server" install or not03:10
plsok03:10
gifduring the boot process?03:10
BlueEaglegif: No.03:10
BlueEaglegif: When you've booted into X03:10
plsNow i have another problem.. it loads in this machine, but in my other machine, it doesnt boot and when i try to load it in windows, it hits me with crappy errors like "canot load CD, it might be in an unreadable format..etc"03:11
jordanturtletime, Most games won't work without some tweaking though unfortunately.03:11
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plsBut it boots from CD in this machine, and yes the boot order is fine in the other machine.03:11
BlueEaglepls: How old is the cd-rom in that other machine?03:11
avagantIs it possible to make debs out of rpms?03:11
avagant!rpm03:11
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).03:11
bruenig!info alien03:11
fildois it a dvd rom u have?03:11
ubotualien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In component main, is optional. Version 8.64 (dapper), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB03:11
dougskoavagant: yes, use an app called alien03:11
avagantAh I see.03:11
BlueEaglepls: Old CD-roms had a weaker lazer and are less willing to read burned CDs.03:11
bruenig"but it's quite dangerous"03:11
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plsBlueEagle, its a 52x CD-ROM03:12
avagantYah that's what I read.03:12
avagantDangerous as in how?03:12
plsBlueEagle, its a 52x CD-ROM Drive.03:12
avagantSomeone is going to come out and slap your hand?03:12
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dougskoavagant: it just doesnt always comvert the way it should03:12
fildohaha03:12
avagantOh.03:12
bruenigdon't know. Everything is dangerous if it isn't they way you are "supposed" to do things.03:12
bruenigautomatix, etc.03:12
dougskoavagant: but in my experience its always worked pretty well03:12
BlueEaglepls: You might also want to use a lense cleaner of sorts. You could always try moving the cd-rom drive that you know to work over.03:12
avagantBut I want the newest version of Konversation.03:12
turtletimeHow's linux/ubuntu support for dual core chips(amd x2)? Will I have any problems?03:12
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plsBlueEagle, its crossed my mind :)03:13
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bruenigavagant, compile the source...03:13
avagantI'm on like 9.0 something and it's up to like 1.01 super duper trooper.03:13
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FearBSDhow can i format a usb stick in ext2 under windows (important: i need a lowercase parition name)03:13
maswanturtletime: works perfectly fine for me03:13
avagantI've had nothing but bad luck compiling anything.03:13
ruffles!automatix03:13
FearBSDanybody?03:13
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ubotuautomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.03:13
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turtletimemaswan: sweet03:13
CViruswhat type of processor shall I choose while compiling a kernel for an Intel Core Duo processor ?03:13
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rufflesCVirus: smp03:13
plsBlueEagle, taking CD-ROM Drive into other machine03:13
plsbrb03:13
avagantUsually either I don't have the right dependencies, or it doesn't end up working anyways so I have to delete it.03:13
rufflesi68603:13
BlueEaglepls: Either that or you can get those blank cd-r disks as they tend to reflect more light than the green ones.03:13
jordanFearBSD, If you are still trying to make that bootable thumb drive, I don't think it has to be ext3, fat should be fine.03:14
bruenigI have not compiled anything on this installed but have before and never had any real problems.03:14
avagantTake for example last.fm and last-exit.03:14
BlueEaglecvirus: i686 and SMP iirc03:14
brueniginstallation*03:14
avagantI haven't compiled anything..........03:14
avagant....et03:14
avagantyet03:14
bruenigavagant, just watch as it goes down the checklist of dependencies and where it fails, go find that03:14
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CVirusBlueEagle: ruffles: I said when compiling a custom vanilla kernel03:14
CVirusthose choices in menuconfig03:14
bruenigusually an apt-cache search of whatever it says you don't have will put up whatever it is you need03:14
rufflesCVirus: i have the impression that core due processors are 64bits03:15
fildobruenig: somestimes easier said then done03:15
CVirusruffles: no they arent03:15
BlueEaglecvirus: Can't you choose 686 there?03:15
avagantThe new Konversation includes a script for xmms, and I'm a nerd enough that I want people to see what I'm listening to :D03:15
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CVirusBlueEagle: nope03:15
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fildoavagant: yeh but gives dep issues .03:15
avagantO rly?03:15
bruenigI say it and do it equally as easy. In fact explaining how I apt-cache search takes more keystrokes than doing an apt-cache search.03:15
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fildowhen i try n install03:15
avagantI wish I knew how to write a script myself or I would.03:15
BlueEagleavagant: No, you don't want that. You might think you do, but you really really do not want that.03:16
fildonot too hard to do03:16
CVirusavagant: learn bash scripting03:16
avagantbash scriptttingggg.03:16
fildosh !03:16
avagantI'm sure it's not too terribly hard.03:16
rufflesavagant: open your text editor and start the scrip with #/bin/bash03:16
rufflesavagant: that's a good start03:16
avagantHahaha03:16
fildoshell scriptoring03:16
avagant!bash03:16
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands03:16
bruenigavagant, believe me, people in IRC love to see what you are playing at the moment. Nothing better than a /me informing of that priceless information.03:16
jrcjrI'm kinda confused about which version of Ubuntu or Kubuntu to use. I have a Pentium D system that is supposedly 64 bit compliant through EMT64. Do I still use the i386 versions, or something else?03:16
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jordanFearBSD, Are you still trying to make that bootable thumb drive?03:17
avagantHahaha bruenig I sense some sarcasm.03:17
avagantI COULD be wrong.03:17
bruenigMAYBE03:17
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BlueEagleavagant: No, you couldn't03:17
lansinghey ppl can some one help me i need to know of a program i coould use for downloadin music03:17
avaganthahaha03:17
avagantCracks me up.03:17
BlueEaglelansing: http://cdon.com03:17
BlueEaglelansing: ;)03:17
turtletimeI have a RAID 5, do I need to download the Alternate Install cd ?03:17
avagantYou know what else does? Reinstalling SIX times.03:18
host`lansing, shareaza03:18
lansingfor ubuntu03:18
bruenigI thought about trying to write a script to do that because I became enamored at how many people were doing it but then figured it was stupid. Avagant, you can probably find a ready made script online03:18
avagantProbably.03:18
brueniglansing, firefox downloads a lot of stuff via http and other familiar protocols03:18
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avagantThat's actually what I'm trying to find.03:18
lansingok03:19
lansingthanx03:19
jordanFearBSD, Are you still trying to make that bootable thumb drive?03:19
prestosdHey all!!03:19
fildothumb drive?03:19
bruenig!hi03:19
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!03:19
fildohi03:19
prestosdCan anyone tell me how to install a gnome vista theme in ubuntu03:19
jordanfildo, USB drive03:19
turtletimehmm, am I going to have problems with a raid 5 install?03:19
avagantDownload the tar drag to your themes.03:19
fildoim a long time listen, virgin caller03:19
turtletimeany tips?03:20
avagantInstalled.03:20
fildojordan: thnx for explanation . for the laymen03:20
bruenigprestosd, find a gnome vista theme, then go to system>preferences>theme, drag and drop03:20
prestosdOK thanks you rule!!03:20
avagantThey don't call me quick-draw for nothing.03:20
prestosdlol03:20
avagantI had a nice theme before I reinstalled.03:20
prestosdbye03:20
avagantFOR THE SIXTH TIME03:20
fildoah run eyecandy03:20
fildocompiz n shit03:20
avagantI want everything to be transparent on gnome.03:20
fildocube rocks03:20
avagantSo transparent I can barely read anything.03:21
avagantBut it'll look elite.03:21
bruenigI might get a good video card just to run compiz "n shit"03:21
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fildoi run it on n/b . with nv03:21
fildoworks fine03:21
avagantYou know, I didn't like that fluxbox deal very much. Just sayin'.03:21
BlueEagleavagant: Turn the brightness to max and then let the picture stay on the monitor for about a month and then turn your monitor off.03:21
avagantHahahaha.03:21
BlueEagleavagant: ;D03:21
avagantWhy aren't you guys comedians?03:21
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BlueEagleavagant: Because you're the one being comical here.03:22
avagantThis monitor is bad enough.03:22
BlueEagle;D03:22
jrcjrHello03:22
avagantxD03:22
bruenig!hi03:22
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!03:22
fildo!hi03:22
avagant!bye03:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bye - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:22
bruenigbeat you loser03:22
fildo!hi > bruenig03:22
bruenigstop stealing my factoid triggers03:22
avagantI don't even know what my computer has on it to tell you the truth.03:22
lansingonece i download the program it comes up wit an error03:22
jrcjrI'm kinda confused about which version of Ubuntu or Kubuntu to use. I have a Pentium D system that is supposedly 64 bit compliant through EMT64. Do I still use the i386 versions, or something else?03:23
avagantSo even if I wanted the most 1337 video whatever it probably wouldn't work.03:23
fildohaha03:23
fildoxorg.conf03:23
avagantThat's what I get for buying off Craigslist.03:23
fildon find out03:23
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bruenigI am not big on hardware either. I have some prefab computer and I really only looked at RAM and processor and HD space. Other than that, I didn't really take care to notice03:23
fildoor modprobe .03:23
BlueEagleavagant: "most 1337 video"?03:23
avagantElite?03:23
avagantHAX0R03:23
fildolol03:24
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avagantWhoops off topic.03:24
fildou must be 1203:24
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avagant12 going on 25.03:24
BlueEagleavagant: That would be divX run trough aalib in a 200x180 terminal03:24
avagantOr the other way around.03:24
bruenignothing better than that vesa driver to tip me off to what kind of video card I have03:24
brueniggood idea fildo03:24
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avagantI want a massive sound system so I can get blown away like in those commercials with the guy sitting in the chair watching tv.03:24
avagantI think that'd be pretty neat.03:24
avagantBut for now I'll stick to my 5 dollar headphones.03:25
fildo#offtopic dude03:25
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avaganttrue that homes.03:25
fildoalsaa rocks03:25
bruenig!offtopic03:25
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!03:25
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avagantalsa is pretty nice, when you get it working.03:25
fildoout of box for me03:25
FearBSDjordan: yes03:25
fildonever had any issues03:25
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avagantWhen you realize going through all those extra steps and spending 3 days doing it was worthless.03:25
fildoonly probably ive had is with wifi03:25
jordanI just wanted to save you the trouble of trying to format it as ext3 in windows because it is actually supposed to be fat32.03:25
FearBSDjordan: i need a linux here rarely03:25
fildobut thatts cause my n/b has a crappy ipw210003:25
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freemind!seen holycow03:26
ubotuholycow is on IRC right now!03:26
Michael-DKHi anyone know how to install ATER-theme for gaim03:26
jordanFearBSD, I just wanted to save you the trouble of trying to format it as ext3 in windows because it is actually supposed to be fat32.03:26
freemindholycow, hello mate03:26
cr-tabletmy mplayer keeps freazing up, long before it goes to actually play the file with : Using MMX (with tiny bit MMX2) Optimized OnScreenDisplay03:26
avagant!seen jordan03:26
ubotujordan is on IRC right now!03:26
Michael-DKusing ubuntu 6.06.103:26
chrometigerhow do u login as root, and/or  do a terminal command as root or say "create a folder on my desktop linked to /home/user/c  my windows partition"   cuz it wont let me unless im root03:26
avagantsudo03:26
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jordan!sudo03:26
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:26
fildoor su03:26
avagantwait, so what was I looking for online again?03:26
BlueEagle!theme03:26
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy03:26
freemindtry "whatis" binary03:26
chrometigerk03:26
avagantOh yah.03:26
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FearBSDyes they say i need both, a fat32 and a ext2. is the ext2 not important?03:27
FearBSDjordan: @03:27
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chrometigeri couldn't find that on ubuntu.com  thanx03:27
fildobrb smokee03:27
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lansingive installed shareza wat do ido now03:27
viatorwhat do old mac laptops use for rightclick?03:27
jordanFearBSD, Sorry, Didn't see that, I thought they gave a program for doing that in windows in that tutorial.03:28
avagantAre you kidding, the first place I'd NEVER look would be ubuntu.com.03:28
Tru7h_Hold Control down while clicking. (@viator)03:28
avagantOr ubuntuforums.org03:28
avagant!ubuntuforums03:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuforums - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:28
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lansingiam new to ubuntu03:28
viatorso you could use hotkeys or somthing03:28
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avagantScript for xmms, right.03:29
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readerhi03:29
jordanFearBSD, I see now, you only need the ext2 partition for the persistance feature, which you don't need.03:29
turtletimeok, I'm reading some bad things about installing ubuntu onto a raid array, what's the verdict?  Is it a pain?03:29
jordanFearBSD, But as that guide is made for persistence, I don't know what will happen without it.03:30
Michael-DKhi anyone of you, using GTK2 ATER-theme for xmms and also using it for gaim?????03:30
cr-tabletturtletime: i have a friend with the some problems and Rad003:30
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jordanFearBSD, It is MUCH easier to do if you don't have to deal with persistence, let me see if I can find a better tutorial.03:31
turtletimecr-tablet: did he end up getting it installed?03:31
cr-tabletturtletime: i'm going to go help him sometime, but no, he did not03:31
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Michael-DKavagant hey u know how to install GTK gaim themes??03:32
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avagantNegative.03:33
jeff_is this the place to ask an edgy question?03:34
LjL!edgy03:34
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule03:34
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avagant!schedule03:34
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule03:34
avagantSee, I was always curious, what's the difference in edgy?03:34
LjLwhat difference?03:34
lansingis there a nuber that i can call for a ubuntu rep03:34
host`what's wrong lansing?03:35
avagantEdgy or Dapper.03:35
avagantIs there a difference?03:35
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lansingi need some help on installing a music downloader for ubuntu03:35
jordanjeff_, #Ubuntu+103:36
host`I thought you installed shareaza?03:36
LjLavagant: Dapper is the current version. Edgy is the version that's being developed right now, i.e. the next version, which is currently experimental.03:36
LjLavagant: sometime this month, Edgy will become the new latest stable version03:36
lansingive tryed but it comes up wit an error03:36
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avagantWell I mean, like has anyone seen a difference between the 2?03:36
avagantOr is it just ubuntu plus one?03:37
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jeff_jordan: thanks03:37
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host`can I download edgy now?03:37
jordanhost`, Yes.03:37
TigerWolfhost`: yes03:37
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TigerWolfhost`: but its beta03:38
Michael-DKhttp://www.taimila.com/index.php found a nice site here:-P03:38
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FearBSDjordan: sorry my windows broke. did you get my last question with ext2?03:39
FearBSDdo i need it or not?03:39
FearBSDor only fat3203:39
Michael-DKdosnt anyone here use ATER-them for xmms/Mplayer/gaim?????03:39
jordanFearBSD, You only need fat, but those instructions might not work without ext2.03:40
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host`can apt-get it?03:40
host`or would I need to download a cd?03:40
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dan2what's going on with the http servers?03:41
jordanFearBSD, Those instructions do more than just make a bootable USB drive, it has a feature called persistence, but you don't need that, so you don't need ext2.03:41
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dan2how come I can't connect to most of them03:41
btdowndownload edgy at cdimage.ubuntu.com03:41
FearBSDjordan: could you quickly review it so you can tell me if i really need it for this guide or not?03:41
dan2btdown: I don't want edgy yet03:41
jordanFearBSD, Sure.03:41
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FearBSDjordan: persistence? what's that03:41
lansingso is there a tollfree number that i can call03:41
btdowndan2 that was to host`03:42
FearBSDjordan: i only want to boot and install from it03:42
Michael-DKwhy a change i like 6.0.6:)03:42
Michael-DK6.0603:42
jordanFearBSD, It lets you save settings / install applications on the usb drive, which you don't need if all you want to use it for is to install Ubuntu on your hard drive.03:43
FearBSDjordan: do i need this strange hp foramt with those files on it or only simple fat32 in my case?03:43
FearBSDi made a strange file sys with this hp tool03:43
FearBSDnot sure wether i need it or not without persistence thing03:43
dan2what happened to dapper on all the servers?03:43
Flanneldan2: nothing?03:44
dan2Flannel: what happens when you run apt-get update03:44
dan2all the dapper ones are failing03:44
dan2404s03:44
Flanneldan2: I'm on breezy, so I don't know.  Why?  dapper ones?  are you running dpaper?  are you using the us mirror?03:44
dan2Flannel: was using the us mirror03:44
FearBSDjordan: now that would be nice03:44
dan2it was slower than dirt03:44
dan2so I changed through a few mirrors03:44
FearBSDbut for now i take the non persistance way03:44
dan2issues with all of them03:44
Flanneldan2: pastebin your sources.list03:45
FearBSDso if i got this right now: i only need to have a clean fa32 filesys and copy all files from the live iso to it?03:45
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dan2Flannel: http://rafb.net/paste/results/94tYQT62.html03:46
jordanFearBSD, I am pretty sure you only need fat32, these instructions should still work.03:47
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dan2Flannel: I'm retarded I guess03:47
dan2Flannel: I think I copied in a CD mirror and not a package mirror03:47
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jordanFearBSD, Following the isnsructions minus step 2 ( partitioning ) will work.03:49
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Flanneldan2: right, that looks like a mirror and not a repository, try !source-o-matic03:50
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BlueSwirldoes anyone have any experience with dual booting mac os and ubuntu?03:52
avagantUptime: 4 hours and 38 minutes03:52
FearBSDjordan: you know a program which can be used to make ext2 from windows?03:52
Flannel!tell BlueSwirl about dualboot03:52
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BlueSwirlooh, cheers :D03:52
FearBSDjordan: i decided to have persistance03:52
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skeithHas there been a decision about firefox in Ubuntu?03:53
Rufflesskeith: it's been updated today and it still keeps the name and logo without the fox...03:54
tritiumskeith: what do you mean?03:54
jordanFearBSD, I have no clue, you might want to just create withought persistence, install Ubuntu, and then add the ext2 partition ( it will 'just work' once you add the partition even though you didn't have it when you set it up )03:54
BlueSwirloops, Flannel, can you send me those links again?03:54
arnduckyHave they fixed the (*^#%5ing fatal (crash/freeze) bugs in Firefox yet!?03:55
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freemindBlueSwirl: of course I can, please wait a moment03:55
Flannelskeith: !tell BlueSwirl about dualboot03:55
knixus.archive.ubuntu.com down?03:55
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Flannelknix: it's not uncommon03:55
jordanFearBSD, It will take all of 10 minutes to install Ubuntu, then you can add the partition from there easily with gparted.03:55
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bsniderhans reiser has been busted for knocking off his wife03:56
bsniderhttp://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/10/10/state/n142844D48.DTL03:56
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BlueSwirlum, they didn't pop up that time...03:56
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Shaezscheanyone know how to get the intel 3945 wireless working in dapper? it works fine in many new distros like mandriva03:56
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tritiumShaezsche: the module should auto-load.  Is it not loaded?03:57
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FearBSDjordan: ok good idea to have the ext2 later on03:57
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Shaezschetritium well if it is autoloading its still not working03:57
FearBSDjordan: will be an easy job with gparted, thx for your help03:57
mngrifhow do I get amarok to play flac?03:57
Shaezscheit "might" have something to do with wpa03:57
jordanFearBSD, Keep me updated, I might want to do this myself if it works :)03:57
Shaezscheis there a better front end for configuring wireless? and wpa03:57
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tritiumShaezsche: indeed it might.  If you can, get it working without wep or wpa before you enable them.03:58
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Shaezscheis wpa easy to configure03:58
fuffaloi've got a new ubuntu box that i'm trying to get working with wireless - it seems like my wireless card is detected fine and it detects networks in my area, but when i try to connect it just says "configuring ath0" for a long time, and then doesn't give me errors - but it doens't work03:58
Shaezschemany new distros have a front end for it03:58
fuffaloany ideas?03:58
tritiumShaezsche: network-manager-gnome is pretty decent, and will require wpasupplicant.  Yes, wpa is easy to configure.03:58
tritium!wireless03:58
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:58
Shaezschehow? wpasupp is installed03:58
Shaezschei dont want to edit text files i athe that03:58
tritiumsee above03:58
BlueSwirlnever mind, got it back. thanks, Flannel03:59
tritiumShaezsche: then use network-manager03:59
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s_spiffcan someone tell me how to fix broken packages?04:00
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freeminds_spiff: apt-get -f install04:00
fuffaloi've got a new ubuntu box that i'm trying to get working with wireless - it seems like my wireless card is detected fine and it detects networks in my area, but when i try to connect it just says "configuring ath0" for a long time, and then doesn't give me errors - but it doens't work04:00
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Shaezschenetwork manager doesnt have a wpa box, only wep04:01
freemindfuffalo: check "dmesg"04:01
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fuffalofreemind, ok one sec04:01
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Flannel!tell Shaezsche about wpa04:02
freemindShaezsche: you need wpasupplicant04:02
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Lil_Shanki just used cfdisk to get rid of my windows partition, and i would like to know if theres a way to combine my free partition with my linux partition?04:03
fuffalo!tell fuffalo about wpa04:03
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mzuverinkAccording to the PLF site, they are no longer going to maintain the mirrors, does that mean no more plf stuff?04:04
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grokLil_Shank: the linux partitions (ext3 partitions) can04:04
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Flannelmzuverink: you'd have to ask them that04:04
s_spifffreemind04:04
grokLil_shank: sorry, they can't be resized. to make it bigger you'd have to reisntall linux04:04
Lil_Shankok04:04
freeminds_spiff04:04
s_spifffreemind, i did that. But when I try to uninstall sunjava 5 i get the same error04:05
BlueSwirljust quick question about dual booting os x and ubuntu... does it matter where my linux partition is on the hard drive? most tutorials say at the start, but mine is at the start04:05
BlueSwirl*end04:05
s_spiffto install broken packages.04:05
Lil_Shankis there a way i can change the Free Space into a new ext3 partition to combine them?04:05
SkyMountaineerwho would like to help me with a sound card issue :)04:05
lansingis there a number that i can  call for assistance04:05
freeminds_spiff: try --purge remove04:05
FlannelLil_Shank: of course04:05
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s_spiffok04:05
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FlannelLil_Shank: any partitioner will turn it into an ext3 partition04:05
host`umm04:06
Flannellansing: you're probably in the best place for help currently04:06
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grokBlueswirl: no it doesn't matter, i have my windows at the start and my linux at around 17 gigs (near the end)04:06
lansingk04:06
host`I'm in fluxbox and I just selected to go to "metacity" and I want to go back but can't figure out how to04:06
Lil_Shankwhat command in cfdisk woudl i use to change that?04:06
freemindlansing: where are you from?04:06
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lansingflannel could u possably help me04:06
lansingcanaga04:06
lansingcanada04:07
Flannellansing: best way to get help is to ask a question04:07
lansingi need help wit ubunto04:07
freemindhehe Flannel04:07
freemindthats why you joined #ubuntu04:07
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boscobosco@bosco-laptop:~$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper04:07
boscoFATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument04:07
boscobosco@bosco-laptop:~$04:07
lansingi need a program that i can use to download music04:07
boscowhat did i do wrong when installing ndiswrapper04:07
freemindlansing: emule, azureus04:08
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lansingn i dont know how to open the program after installin it04:08
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BlueSwirlgrok, thanks! right, lets download 6.10 and back-up my hard drive... :)04:08
host`bosco, first off, do you really need to install ndiswrapper?04:08
groklol04:08
grokgood luck!04:08
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Flannellansing: download... you'll have to be more specific, you want p2p, bittorrent? what?04:08
BlueSwirlcheers. laters :)04:08
Lil_Shankhow would i change the free partition to ext3 partition on my harddrive?04:09
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boscohost`, yes i have some wierd wireless chip didnt detect it out of the box with breezy witch i know it wouldnt in that but even in dapper it didnt04:09
lansingp2p04:09
freemindLil_Shank: mkfs.ext304:09
Lil_Shanki am using cfdisk04:09
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host`BOSCO, DID you delete the old ndiswrapper?04:09
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host`if it was instaleld04:09
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host`is anyone familiar with fluxbox?04:09
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grok04:10
boscohost`,  i think so where is the old one located04:10
boscojust to make sure04:10
jordan qerg qd04:10
jordan qer04:10
jordanv04:10
fildohost`: remote login aint it ?04:10
jordanSorry, Cat walking on keyboard :)04:10
Lil_Shankcan someone tell me if this is what i need to have? http://pastebin.ca/19707404:11
babowhat's the command to look at linux memory again ... d'oh ?04:11
freemindhehehe jordan04:11
SkyMountaineerok who can point me in the right direction.. i can get sound via my headphones but not the speaker ?04:11
Flannel!tell lansing about frostwire04:12
RopechoborraWhere should i go to change the Splash-image?04:12
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strobedreamSkyMountaineer: bad speakers?04:12
Flannelhost`: #fluxbox has people familiar with it ;)04:12
lansingwill frostwire work for ubuntu04:12
freemind!tell Flannel about SNMP04:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about SNMP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:12
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Lil_Shankfrostwire works on my ubuntu04:12
boscolansing, yes ti will04:12
SkyMountaineerstrobedream: laptop dual boots and windows works fine04:12
Flannellansing: yes, read the link ubotu gave you04:12
Lil_Shankbut you need the java for it04:12
boscolansing, go get automatix04:12
bosco204:12
lansingok thanx04:12
Flannelbosco: do not recommend automatix here.04:12
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lansingwats that04:13
boscoFlannel, never mind me04:13
strobedreamSkyMountaineer: weird what kind of lappy?04:13
morphycsis there a winimage clone for linux?04:13
Flannellansing: you don't want it04:13
RopechoborraWhere should i go to change the Splash-image?04:13
lansingok04:13
SkyMountaineerstrobedream: toshiba tecra A804:13
strobedreamhmm04:13
strobedreamthats odd04:13
Lil_Shankif one partition reads Linux and the other reads Linux ext3, can they or are they combined?04:13
strobedreamUsually laptops dont do that kind ofstuff04:13
SkyMountaineeryea tell me about it drove me nutts and i thought i would try it and i get sound04:14
Lil_Shankcan they be*04:14
casfindadHi everyone, I'm having trouble entering podcasts into rhythmbox. Anyone else?04:14
strobedreamI would that that control via the speakers/headphones would be hardwarenot software04:14
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Flannel!tell Ropechoborra about splash04:14
jordanHow can I map a key to be eqivilent to pressing the right mouse button ( I am on a mac and need a way to right click )?04:14
strobedream*think that04:14
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SkyMountaineeryea i tried different settings but can not gt it04:15
Lil_Shankif one partition reads Linux and the other reads Linux ext3, can they be or are they combined?04:15
Xappejordan: on ppc ubuntu the thefault key for right click is F1204:15
strobedreamSkyMountaineer: no idea. I have never seen that before much less heard about it.04:15
Xappe*default04:15
grokLil_shank: is the one labeled linux called linux swap?04:15
Geoffrey2Lil_Shank, ext3 can't be resized once it's created, from what I've read on here04:15
Lil_Shankhttp://pastebin.ca/19707404:15
Lil_Shankthis is what it looks like04:15
grokLil_shank: what geoffrey says is true04:16
lansingdo i save it to disk04:16
jordanXappe, I am on a macbook pro.04:16
morphycshow to edit disk images ?04:16
Xappejordan: ah04:16
Flannelmorphycs: you want to make your own ISO? or what?04:16
jordanXappe, Can you help?04:16
morphycsFlannel, i've a floppy disk image tha i want to edit04:16
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Xappejordan: no, not really...sorry04:17
fildoto restart sound ? its /etc/init.d/alsa guys ?04:18
Lil_Shankgrok, this is what my hdd partitions look like http://pastebin.ca/19707404:18
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grokLil_shank: i'll have a look04:18
lansingit came up wit an error for frostwire04:18
Lil_Shankgrok, thanks04:18
lansingit says it cant open it04:18
morphycshow to edit disk images ?04:18
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Flannellansing: did you follow all the instructions on that page?  what error does it give you?04:19
paolobHi guys! When is edgy release due? thank you!04:19
brian98!schedule04:19
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule04:19
Geoffrey2Lil_Shank, what you CAN do, however, is to create another ext3 partition and then mount it to an empty directory on your first ext3 partition, so going into that directory takes you to the second partition04:19
lansingcanot open archive file04:19
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fildo!alsa04:20
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems04:20
Flannellansing: You've installed java?04:20
grokLil_shank: no they can't be combined...the linux ext3 is the partition your linux os is installed on, and i *think* the second "linux partition" (its a linux swap) is kind of like extra ram04:20
lansingyes04:20
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Lil_ShankGeoffrey2, how would i use cfdisk to create a new ext3 partition and mount it?04:20
Geoffrey2Lil_Shank, I've never used cfdisk, sorry04:20
Lil_ShankGeoffrey2, thanks anyways :)04:21
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lansingcould be rong jave04:21
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lansingwat site do i get it04:21
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Flannel!tell lansing about frostwire04:21
psusihow does X normally auto configure itself and how can I force it to do so again, and regenerate /etc/X11/xorg.conf?04:21
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Flannellansing: that page goes over it all, you'll be using this java though04:21
Flannel!tell lansing about java04:21
psusiI ask because I upgraded my video card recntly and X won't use any modes > 648 x 480 because it says the hsync values are out of range on all the other modes04:22
paolob!help04:22
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage04:22
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avagant!me04:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:23
avagantStill working on that bash script. :(04:23
whysocan u resize ext3 partitian?04:23
Lil_Shankwhyso, i've been told you cant04:23
grokwhyso: no, ext3 partitions cannot be resized04:23
psusiwhyso: I believe gparted can do that04:23
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whysoah ok, what about rizer?04:24
psusireiser?  I think gparted can handle that as well04:24
grokpsusi, whyso: no ext3 partition can be resized. you can resize your "windows" partition, but not an ext3. ever.04:24
tamacrackerCan someone help me remount my HDD?... This is the 2nd time it randomly unmounted itself04:24
psusigrok: why not ext3?  I could swear parted supports ext for sure04:25
paolob!search *04:25
ubotuFound: packages,ati-#ubuntu-xgl,picard,fglrx-#ubuntu-xgl,kudos,buntudot,kdesu,pong,password04:25
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whysosorry didnt understand psusi can reiser be resized?04:25
lansingiam confused04:25
psusiwyso: I'm prety sure, yes... reiser can even increase its size on the fly with some aid from fdisk and a remount04:25
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grokpsusi: i don't konw, but i've read on countless sites that ext3's can't be resized. don't know why. also i've tried it, it didn't work. :)04:26
tamacrackerCould not show 'file:///media/illriginal/My%20Downloads' Details: The location or file could not be found.04:26
psusigrok: you tried booting from the live cd and using gparted?04:26
whysoah ok, well whats better about ext3 then?04:26
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psusiwhyso: not much04:26
efrunIs the version of gnome in Edgy any faster then dapper?  I had to switch to xfce due to extremely poor response from Gnome.04:26
grokpsusi: i've tried qtparted, not gparted. i might be wrong but i thought that ext3's were just unchangable04:27
psusigrok: what about ext2?  I'm SURE parted can do that04:27
Flannelefrun: #ubuntu+1 for edgy questions04:27
grokpsusi: never tried it, sorry04:27
psusiand ext3 is just ext2 + a journal... tune2fs can swap a partition back and forth between 2 and 3 easy04:27
avaganthow has your experience been with xfce, i found mine to be really glitchy.04:27
whysoone question leads to 2 :) why isnt reiser the defualt, and how hard is it to change to it (from clean install)04:27
Flannelwhyso: changing requires complete backup/etc, be easier to just reinstall as reiser.04:27
psusiwhyso: it isn't the default because it is newer04:27
avagantthat's why i'm using gnome, i downloaded the iso and it just didn't do anything i wanted it to.04:27
psusiand yea, changing generally requires a backup/reformat/restore04:28
efrunavagant, it's not much better, but it is better.  Honestly, Suse with KDE was very quick... but it comes with its downs as well.04:28
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brandonanyone worked with NAS's? I can mount it but only root as access to it, can't figure out how to make it available to other users04:28
whysooh ok thanks, so you guys reccomend it over ext3?04:28
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avagantI wanted to try suse, but i downloaded the iso wrong or something and couldn't get it to load.04:28
avagantOr maybe that was freebsd, at either rate I'm back on ubuntu.04:29
funkjaIs there something similar to Mac's Garageband for linux? Or at least something that will let me play a midi keyboard?04:29
psusibrandon: when mounting windows shares the mount is restricted to be accessible to only one local user by default... the default user is root04:29
efrunif you do try Suse, make sure you get the Smart Package Manager.  Yast is horrible in 10.104:29
shriphanifunkja, audacity ?04:29
psusibrandon: so change the user= in the mount options to your account if that is what you want04:29
tamacrackerCan someone please help me remount my secondary hard drive?04:29
psusiwhyso: I run reiserfs04:29
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avagantWell for now I'm not having any trouble with Ubuntu.04:29
funkjashriphani: that is what i was thinking too but I wasn't sure04:30
avagantefrun: I've reinstalled gnome so many times that it's all old hat to me now.04:30
avagantefrun: Or rather Ubuntu.04:30
psusiso anyone know how to reconfigure X to detect new hardware and regenerate /etc/X11/xorg.conf?04:30
shriphanifunkja, audacity is powerful04:30
tamacrackerWhat's more stable than Ubuntu?04:30
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shriphanitamacracker, huh ?04:30
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avagantI can mount a drive, and check this and check that it sucks I had to learn this way but..04:31
lansingi need  assistance04:31
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avagantI guess when you throw yourself into something.04:31
grokwhatcha need lansing?04:31
tamacrackerI'm findin that Ubuntu's becoming unstable... atleast with keepin the secondary hard drive mounted.04:31
Flannelpsusi: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:31
raichtamacracker: wjhy's that?04:31
Flanneltamacracker: is it in your fstab?04:31
brandonpsusi: tried that and root only had access still, "mount -t cifs //192.168.13.176/public /mnt/store2 -o rw,username=media,password=media,file_mode=0755,dir_mode=0755,user=media" (media is a local user and the user on the nas)04:31
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shriphanibrb04:32
psusiFlannel ahh, thanks... tried like every other X package but that one ;)04:32
tamacrackerIt just keeps randomly unmounting my drive for no reason04:32
avagantI just do simple mounts, I can't help you there. haha04:32
raichtamacracker: is it in fstab?04:32
psusibrandon is your user name "media" or "brandon" or something?04:32
avaganttamacracker: I hope I never have that problem myself, it took me long enough to learn HOW to mount.04:32
brandonmedia04:32
psusihrm... that should do it04:32
funkjashriphani: Audicy does not support playing recording or editing midi files04:33
tamacrackerraich how do i check to see if it's in fstab?04:33
raichcat /etc/fstab04:33
brandonpsusi: drwxrwx--- 2 root  11578  0 2006-10-10 21:54 store204:33
raichcheck if it's there04:33
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raichyou have to know the partition name04:33
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avagantthe original partion name?04:33
tamacracker/dev/hda1     /media/illriginal     ntfs-3g     silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf804:33
SkyMountaineerhow do it install kde in ubuntu ? i goto SPM and it  tells me i can not04:34
avagantlike mine was /dev/hdb1 and it became /media/hdb104:34
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tamacrackerraich: /dev/hda1     /media/illriginal     ntfs-3g     silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf804:34
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avagantWhat's the 3g stand for?04:34
raichtamacracker: there it is, you only have one harddrive mounted04:34
r0nnhi guys04:34
gu014does anyone have a up to date howto for configuring dvd decrypter?04:34
tamacrackerraich04:35
ifconfigI'm using Samba, to share folders between Linux and Windows .. I've shared a folder in my linux box, and tried to access the folder, I've shared, It asked me a username/password, I've etnered it, and logged in find -- Is there a way to get the username/password dialog box again, after someone tries to access that particular folder in windows?04:35
avagant3gb?04:35
tamacrackeri have both mounted04:35
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raichsearch the name of this second your trying to mount and write it in there04:35
tamacrackerhdb1 and hda104:35
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avagantI sure hope my first one is mounted, haha.04:35
raichi only see one..04:35
tamacrackerone hard drive is dedicated to my ubuntu which is ext3 partition04:35
avagantYou guys are making me more confused than I already am.04:35
avagantHaha.04:35
raichhmm try writing it again, as root of course04:35
CaptainMorganwhat file is the command 'more' found in? Im using cygwin and I need to install it..04:35
raichsudo gedit /etc/fstab04:35
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Flannelraich: gksudo04:36
avagantwhat exactly does the mtab do?04:36
avagant!mtab04:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mtab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:36
CaptainMorgan!more04:36
raichFlannel: prompt sudo is faster =)04:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about more - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:36
KeatonI've got a problem installing Kubuntu on this laptop of mine. It's a  Dell Latitude, Pentium II, and whenever I try to start the installation disk it gives me I/O errors when it trys to mount the filesystem.04:36
tamacrackerraich ok what do i do now in this?04:36
Flannelraich: it's wrong though.04:36
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raichFlannel: why?04:36
FlannelKeaton: did you burn it yourself?04:36
raichtamacracker: let me see04:36
psusimtab is a file used by the mount program to keep track of what filesystems you currently have mounted04:36
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Flannelraich: because it doesn't set up the environment correctly for graphical programs04:37
avagantAhhhh.04:37
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tamacrackerwhat's the website i use in order to post up my information?04:37
Flannel!paste04:37
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:37
raichtamacracker: just follow the comments, above each column04:37
KeatonFlannel: yes, and I've used this copy a few times before. It's a little dusty, but it's scratch free.04:37
funkjaWhy do not all the screen resolutions that i have enabled in my xorg.conf show up in the Screen Resolution prefence window?04:37
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raichFlannel: didn't know that, thanks04:37
tamacracker/dev/hda1     /media/illriginal     ntfs-3g     silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf8,no_def_opts,allow_other04:38
tamacracker/dev/hdb1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       104:38
FlannelKeaton: if you've used it a few times, it probably isn't the disk then.  but, not scratches, burn speed.04:38
O2hello04:38
tamacracker/dev/hdb5       none            swap    sw              0       004:38
tamacracker/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       004:38
wickedpuppyO2, ... there you are here again ...04:38
tamacrackerthat's what I have04:38
O2can anyone tell me why my realplayer plays rm file so slow?04:38
Flanneltamacracker: don't paste here.  that's what the pastebin is for04:38
KeatonFlannel: I thought that might be it. thanks.04:38
avagantThe burnt discs don't last very long.04:39
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raichtamacracker: you didn't say it already was in fstab04:39
goodguyHi, Good night! I need to know how to use XGL (or the new technology for 3D eye candy) in Ubuntu 6.10 with ATI Card04:39
avagantI've had to burn 2 seperate ubuntu discs.04:39
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Flannelgoodguy: #ubuntu-xgl or #ubuntu+104:39
raichyou only copied the first line..04:39
avagantThen again I've reinstalled Ubuntu about 7 times.04:39
tamacracker:\ yeah that first line was the hard drive that's for my windows, which is Ubuntu's secondary drive.04:39
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tamacrackermy window's hard drive on ubuntu is for media purposes only because the windows drive is alot bigger04:40
O2wickedpuppy: yes, hi04:40
Flanneltamacracker: it's most likely a fault in ntfs-3g then.  Which is still experimental04:40
avagantwhat's the 3g stand for though?04:40
wickedpuppyO2, as for real player ... ask the real corp ... honestly i don't use it04:40
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fildogoogle it04:41
tamacrackerFlannel then what can I do so I don't bother with experimental crap04:41
avagantI haven't used real player in like....5 years.04:41
Flannelavagant: no idea.  They had a naming contest thing, I think.04:41
O2wickedpuppy:  there's one thing different, I am in real ubuntu system now, not through vmware04:41
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Flanneltamacracker: there is no stable NTFS writing available at the moment.04:41
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wickedpuppyO2, great!!!! started screwing it up yet ?04:41
tamacrackercrap so it's just gonna keep going and coming04:41
CaptainMorganwhat file is the command 'more' found in? Im using cygwin and I need to install it..04:41
MukundaHmm, so Hans got arrested, hmm.04:41
tamacrackerit just started this week... and I don't know why it started up04:42
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O2wickedpuppy:   no, but when I play avi video file, the default player says there's no decodec04:42
Flanneltamacracker: most likely, yes.  You could try updating your ntfs-3g (and submit a bug report to them too, they can't fix bugs they don't know about)04:42
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wickedpuppyO2, get vlc player04:42
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avagantSo, I don't want to get rid of firefox, but i'm thinking of switching browsers here real soon.04:42
tamacrackerFlannel how would I be able to update ntfs-3g?04:42
wickedpuppy!restricted04:42
O2wickedpuppy:  oh?04:42
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:42
grokhow hard would it be to switch from gnome to xfce. by that i mean removeing gnome plus most of the applications taht come with it. is there one action i could do to take care of it all?04:42
avagantremove purge gnome-deskto-environment?04:43
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wickedpuppyO2, and look at ubotu links for more multimedia joy on ubuntu .... yes pls get vlc player its on synaptic if you got universe/multiverse04:43
avagantI don't think that'll get rid of everything though.04:43
grokavagant: how sure are you about that. no offense04:43
Flanneltamacracker: However you installed it, you'd download a new versoin, and install that.04:43
avagantgrok: I'm not.04:43
Flanneltamacracker: ntfs-3g isn't provided by ubuntu, I have no idea.04:43
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grokavagant: ok, thanks, i'll try it though04:43
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avagantgrok: It was just a suggestion, I haven't ever tried that myself, I've had a hard enough time getting gnome installed.04:44
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tamacrackeralready then...04:44
avagantOr rather Ubuntu.04:44
craigbass1976Anyone installed ndiswrapper?  My card is supported, but to configure things I need to know where the driver is, and the ubuntu FAQ I'm reading doesn't say where it might be.  I'm assuming that since my card is supported that the driver is somewhere on my system04:44
O2wickedpuppy:  I would like to use apt-get  :-P04:44
grokavagant: alright, i'll look into it further, thank you04:44
avagantYour welcome I guess?04:44
avagantWHOOHOO! I helped my first person!04:44
avagantHahah04:44
tamacrackerHow can I remount my drive04:44
groklol04:44
wickedpuppyO2, then pls use ... no need to ask ... :P04:45
kromellol04:45
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avagantI need all the help I can get, I don't know how I'm offering advice.04:45
craigbass1976avagant, congrats.  Just be sure you don't become crotchety like people in some other linux chats.04:45
tamacrackernevermind04:45
O2wickedpuppy:  lol04:45
tamacrackerim outs04:45
avagantcraigbass1976: Hahah.04:45
avagantcraigbass1976: Nah, I'm old but not crotchety.04:45
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lansingive downloaded java and it says cant open it04:45
craigbass1976avagant, Ok mr fancy pants, where's the driver (.inf) file for my broadcom wireless card?04:46
wickedpuppyhow are you opening it ?04:46
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avagantI...04:46
avagantI plead the fifth.04:46
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ifconfigI'm using Samba, to share folders between Linux and Windows .. I've shared a folder in my linux box, and tried to access the folder, I've shared, It asked me a username/password, I've etnered it, and logged in find -- Is there a way to get the username/password dialog box again, after someone tries to access that particular folder in windows?04:46
O2wickedpuppy:  only download vlc ? what about other relatives?04:46
avagantThat's a googlin' question I think.04:46
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craigbass1976avagant, What?  What kind of tech support are you?!!! :)04:47
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avagantSo I'm still scared about alsa.04:47
lansingdoes anyone know a toll free number to a rep04:47
wickedpuppyO2, relatives ? you mean codecs ?? no need to worry about things .. just get .. and try to play .. if not we will see what codec you need ..04:47
avagantHaha craigbass1976.04:47
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O2wickedpuppy: ok, thanks!04:47
FearBSDjordan: you still here?`04:47
lansingi need to talk to a person on the phone so they can help me step by step04:48
Flannellansing: how did you download sun java?04:48
avagantMy sound works absolutely fine right now, but I'm afraid if I DONT put an .asoundrc file or do anything it won't work.04:48
O2wickedpuppy:  I am using xchat, but find it not so friendly as mIRC in windows04:48
waspiushi...my computer lately is really going slow..can anyone help in what i can do?04:48
sheriraois ubuntu becoming famous bcoz it is doing free-ship ?04:48
lansingthrou that site that ubotu told me04:48
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CaptainMorganwhat file is the command 'more' found in? Im using cygwin and I need to install it..04:48
Flannelsherirao: no04:48
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avagantlansing: Did you try the ubuntuforums?04:48
FlannelCaptainMorgan: you should ask in cygwin places.  I think it's in a base package though.04:48
Flannellansing: so, the apt-get one?04:48
wickedpuppyO2, you are not used to it ... i found it first time i use xchat too ... its different looking but you will get used to it later04:48
efrancolaportehey i downloaded a .sh file anyone knows how i can install it04:49
sheriraothen what makes ubuntu different04:49
O2wickedpuppy:  I can't type wick and press TAB to auto-complete04:49
efrancolaporteit's crossover office04:49
lansingyes i dont under stand them iam new to ubuntu04:49
wickedpuppyO2, yes you can ...04:49
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efrancolaporteits a *.sh, is there anyway to install it, through the console perhaps04:49
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avagantlansing: You probably would be able to get like 90 percent of your answers from there.04:49
efrancolaporte(yes im n00b)04:49
FearBSDwhat's wrong when i get this error on booting the livecd: erro: can04:49
Elephantefrancolaporte:  Probably not.  I'd run it in the console by typing ./filename.sh04:49
FlannelCaptainMorgan: you might also try less... see if that's installed04:49
wickedpuppyefrancolaporte, sh file.sh04:49
O2oh,,, yes I can now.  but couldn't yesterday!04:49
FearBSDcan't access TTY; job control turned off?04:49
CaptainMorganFlannel, yes, less works04:49
efrancolaportejill try both04:49
Elephantbut make sure it has permissions to execute first04:50
efrancolaportek ill try both04:50
FlannelCaptainMorgan: so, just use that04:50
lansingi need to talk to a human voice to voice not by browser04:50
Elephantchmod u+x file.sh04:50
CaptainMorganFlannel, so where is less installed ?04:50
CaptainMorganmaybe I could throw more in ther etoo04:50
Elephantwhich less04:50
FlannelCaptainMorgan: /your-cygwin-path/bin/04:50
CaptainMorganFlannel, thanks04:50
avagantlansing: As far as java or flash goes go to the forum and look up "desktop customization guide" and the topics and ine one topic it'll tell you how to download flash and java.04:50
avagantlansing: And how to add repositories, get codecs and so on.04:50
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avagantI wish I could say this because I was a pro at Ubuntu/Linux.04:51
FearBSDwiki.ubuntu.com04:51
goodguyHi, Good night! I need to know how to use XGL (or the new technology for 3D eye candy) in Ubuntu 6.10 with ATI Card04:51
avagantHere lansing I'll link you to it.04:51
fildoisnt there something like easyubuntu ?04:51
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fildothat u can use , to install flash / java and additional fonts ?04:52
Flannelgoodguy: #ubuntu+1 and #ubuntu-xgl are the places to ask04:52
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efrancolaportethe sh command worked04:52
efrancolaportethank you :)04:52
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wickedpuppyefrancolaporte, cause your file.sh isn't +x ... nvm whatever works :P04:52
craigbass1976How do I knwo if I'm using dapper or whatever04:52
wickedpuppycraigbass1976, cat /etc/issue04:52
avagantlansing: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18679204:52
Flannelcraigbass1976: lsb_release -a04:52
fildocraigbass1976: uname -ar in bash04:52
fildoor that04:52
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Flannelfildo: uname won't give you that, just kernel version ;)04:53
fildonice command Flannel04:53
fildothnx for that04:53
avagantlansing: That one topic will show you how to get all the codecs to play mp3's ect, flash, java, microsoft truecore fonts and various other things.04:53
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wickedpuppyfildo, i why uname -ar ? -a is all ...-r is kernel .. if you got -a there will also be kernel in it ..04:53
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Flannelavagant: we prefer the wiki, which are all linked via ubotu factoids, they're generally more concise than the forums04:54
fildowickedpuppy: just habbit from redhat04:54
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wickedpuppyfildo, i see :P04:54
wickedpuppyfildo, you mean uname is different there ?04:54
avagantFlannel: Yah I know.04:54
fildolsb_release -a < mental note04:54
fildogood command04:54
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avagantFlannel: It was just the first thing that came to mind, I've done this so many times.04:54
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fildonot really04:55
slopis there a way to change how long your computer stay's idle before the hard drives power down?04:55
fildoid probably look into acpi for that slop04:55
FearBSDare there any important changes in the file isolinux.cfg in edgy?04:55
O2wickedpuppy:  could I use ghost to backup my linux system installation?04:56
craigbass1976thanks wickedpuppy Flannel and fildo .  It seems I'm using dapper04:56
slopfildo, acpi?04:56
FlannelFearBSD: #ubuntu+104:56
shriphaniwee fluxbox rocks04:56
avagantcraigbass1976: Welcome to our world!04:56
fildoshriphani: indeed04:56
kromel!fluxbox04:56
ubotufluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox04:56
wickedpuppyO2, norton ghost ? no idea if it could backup ext3 ... ask norton ?04:56
avagantI didn't like fluxbox, well I did but I would probably have to spend too much time trying to figure it out.04:56
O2wickedpuppy:  oh, so how could I recover my linux04:57
avagantI wanted to have transparent terminals just like everyone else :(04:57
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craigbass1976Right.  I'm not so sure about the root and sudo though; I'm so used to Cent and Solaris.  I start things up in ubuntu and think I need the root pass, only to find that I need my regular user pass.  Weird04:57
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fildoavagant: look in schema04:57
wickedpuppyO2, there are a lot of ways .. one is backup using dd .. another is putting /home and /etc in different partitions ... and so on and on04:57
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slopfildo, what's acpi?04:57
wickedpuppy!acpi04:57
ubotuacpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (dapper), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)04:57
Flannel!backup04:57
mankiehello04:57
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi04:57
mankiehola04:57
wickedpuppysweet04:58
avagantI'm afraid to mess around with anything else on my computer though.04:58
slopah...thanks :)04:58
FlannelO2: thats for you04:58
mankiealguien sabe donde estoy04:58
Flannel!es04:58
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.04:58
avagant!fr04:58
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.04:58
mankieahh, ok, thank you04:58
wickedpuppythats not fr04:58
fildostop flooding the bot04:58
fildo!04:58
avagantI know.04:58
avagantI just didn't know if there was one.04:58
wickedpuppy...04:58
mankiesorry, anyone could explain me what it is04:59
mankiei'm new in ubuntu04:59
lansingis there ne way that some one can show me how to install these programs cus that forum thing dont tell me a dam thing04:59
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tahorgwickedpuppy: it is.04:59
mankieit's my first day04:59
fildomankie: congrats! n welcome04:59
wickedpuppytahorg, french ?04:59
slopwickedpuppy, acpi didn't do anything....it just went to a new prompt04:59
lansingits all jiberish to me04:59
mankiethank you04:59
tahorgwickedpuppy: yes04:59
avagantmankie: Don't do anything else until you read up on things.04:59
wickedpuppyslop, ask the guy who was helping ya before ?04:59
shriphanilansing, sudo aptitude install ......04:59
mankiei'm chatting in the server irc-hispano, i think05:00
fildolol05:00
fildonooo05:00
slopoh sorry lol05:00
mankiecan i connect in this server from here?05:00
wickedpuppytahorg, you are a french in india ?05:00
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tahorgwickedpuppy: I'm not in india, I'm in brazil.05:00
slopfildo, its cool...i'll ask in #lfd05:00
slopthanks for the pointer :)05:00
fildolfd ?05:00
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lansinglike i said jiberish05:00
fildolinuxfordummies!05:00
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wickedpuppytahorg, i see ... your domain is .in ...05:00
mankiei'm trying new things here in my ubuntu05:00
avagantThat's what I need.05:00
mankiei think that it's good05:01
lansingyah fildo thats about it05:01
mankieinteresting05:01
mankiei have a lot of things here05:01
mankiei don't need windows05:01
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tahorgwickedpuppy: yep, that's a 'pun'. Jardin means garden in french.05:01
O2wickedpuppy:   do you know about problems of unicode languages?05:01
mankiethe video, sound, internet, chat05:01
wickedpuppytahorg, je sais un peu francis ... mais .in = india domin ...05:01
avagantI have a question, has anyone successfully gotten lastfm to work with alsa?05:02
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wickedpuppyO2, eh ah .. you shouldn't have it on ubuntu ..05:02
shriphanidown wi windblows Ex- Pee05:02
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tahorgwickedpuppy: yes, I know, but it's just a tld. Anyone can buy a .in05:02
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wickedpuppytahorg, but .in can't be sold well .. i got linuxworld.in or something like that when .in opened up last year .. well its off-topic ... thanks for explaining dude05:03
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O2wickedpuppy:  I have a DVD with some directories name in Chinese, and they're displayed as all "??????"05:03
=== littlerxa si bebi mas de la cuenta para eso es mi fiesta y a ti queeeeee ieeeeieeeee
lansingthis is the error that come up wen i open java Could not open "sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1_all.deb"05:04
lansingArchive type not supported.05:04
wickedpuppyO2, cause you don't have chinese language installed ?05:04
O2wickedpuppy:  I can view and input chinese.05:04
avagantlansing: Did you put dpkg -i in front of that?05:04
wickedpuppyno idea .. i am in singapore ... 80% chinese here ...05:04
shriphanilansing, dpkg -i package.deb05:04
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tahorglittlerxa: nobody cares. You can drink as much as you want, we don't care.05:04
littlerxajajaja I'm singing :P05:05
avagantalso make sure you cd to the correct directory.05:05
Captain_RedbeardHmm... does anybody have any experience configuring the graphical aspects of grub? You see, there is a white frame around the menu entries I'd like to get rid of since it ruins the impression of my splashimage...05:05
wickedpuppyO2, maybe its not chinese .. chinese itself has a lot of dialects ..05:05
O2wickedpuppy: I have installed chinese support05:05
littlerxanobody cares what u don't listen music xDDD05:05
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lansingno i installed it from the ubuntu forum thingy05:05
avagantHmm.05:05
wickedpuppyO2, ask in hongkong whats chinese and they will tell you its cantonese ... taiwan another ... mainland china another ..05:05
fildo!java05:06
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository05:06
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shriphanilansing, cd to the dir where you have the deb....... udo dpkg -i !@#$.deb05:06
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Elephantwahoo, SSH server is now installed :D05:07
O2wickedpuppy: only the cd-rom has the problem! other hard-drive partitions's chinese file name could display well.05:07
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Flannelshriphani, lansing, no.  install it from the repositories, don't install it locally.05:07
wickedpuppyO2, there is #ubuntu-cn ... ask there ... i don't use any other language than english so can't help ya there05:07
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wickedpuppyjust say ni hao mah ?05:07
wickedpuppy:P05:07
wickedpuppyyou will be fine05:07
O2wickedpuppy:  OK, thanks all the same05:07
shriphanilansing, enable multiverse and sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin05:08
O2wickedpuppy:  lol... you are Chinese?05:08
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wickedpuppyO2, no prob .. i am burmese in singapore ... my girl is chinese though05:08
avagantYah that's what I was going to suggested shriphani.05:08
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lansinglinux for DUMMIES thats me05:09
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AngryElfdoes anyone know how to get optical-audio output working?05:09
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avagantlansing: Don't worry we've all been there.05:09
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lansingwell thats me now05:09
avagantlansing: Did I mentioned I've reinstalled 6 times in the past 2 weeks?05:10
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Dr_willisheh - You are doing better then average then...05:10
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lansingyah me to ive switch op several times05:10
avagantYah, me too.05:10
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avagantKubuntu, Xubuntu, Ubuntu, Gentoo.05:11
lansingcould ne one control my desktop and help me05:11
fildokubuntu is da best05:11
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fildo:p05:11
raichXubuntu05:11
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Dr_willisBubbaUbuntu05:11
blesshi i update my ubuntu breezy to dapper , one hour ago the download finish and it still saying  "preconfiguring packs"  is normal that this "preconfiguring" take 1 hour?05:11
avagantbless: Probably not.05:12
blessavagant, what can i do than?05:12
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avagantI don't know usually if it doesn't work for me I just throw the disc back in.05:12
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avagantI don't know if I'm downloading the iso wrong.05:13
blesshow can u do that?05:13
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efrundownloading an iso wrong?05:13
avagantWell not downloading it, but burning.05:13
blessno05:13
blessi update via apt-get05:14
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avagantHmm.05:14
avagantConnection died?05:14
blessno05:14
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blessthis step dont need conection05:14
blessand i am here lol05:15
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avagantHonestly I don't know.05:15
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blessok , thanks than05:15
blesshi i update my ubuntu breezy to dapper , one hour ago the download finish and it still saying  "preconfiguring packs"  is normal that this "preconfiguring" take 1 hour?05:15
Shadow_milHelp... I have broken sudo!05:15
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lansingavagant could u help me by remote connect05:15
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avagantI don't know how to do that, and I don't think I can.05:15
avagantSorry man :)05:15
blessnoone can help me?05:15
lansingdam05:16
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pike_Shadow_mil: ?05:17
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ElephantLOL, I just discovered apt-get's Super Cow Powers05:17
Shadow_milchuck@ubuntu:/usr$ sudo05:17
Shadow_milsudo: must be setuid root05:17
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craigbass1976Is there a log file that tells you about dchp requests you've made?05:18
FlannelShadow_mil: is chuck in sudoers?05:18
pike_Shadow_mil: do you have a livecd or you can set an option at the grub boot to obtain a root shell05:18
Shadow_milFlannel: yes05:18
FlannelShadow_mil: type groups, admin?05:18
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Shadow_milpike_: I can get root shell05:18
Shadow_milgot one05:18
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sproingieElephant: now try aptitude moo05:19
pike_Shadow_mil: oh.  well im sleepy now bye05:19
ElephantI did05:19
Shadow_milpike_: !!!!!!!!05:19
Elephantand then aptitude -v moo05:19
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Elephantand now I think I'm going to cry05:20
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sproingieElephant: no easter eggs unless you count minesweeper05:20
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ElephantI got to:  aptitude -vvvvvv moo05:20
Elephant:'(05:20
shriphaniThere are no Easter Eggs in this program.05:20
shriphanilol05:20
Elephantwell05:20
Elephantaptitude -v moo05:20
Elephantthen aptitude -vv moo05:20
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Elephantand so on up to -vvvvvv05:21
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mikeoanyone here have the ati hdtv wonder?05:22
sproingiei suppose it's not really an easter egg if it's in the menu05:22
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atarimasterhell005:22
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Shadow_milI think I have messed permissions in /usr05:23
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Shadow_milhow can I fix them back?05:23
Shadow_milmessed up*05:23
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atarimasteri have a little problem with one of my reposotories05:23
wickedpuppyShadow_mil, you did chmod -R ?05:24
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Shadow_milwickedpuppy: well I did   chown -R root /usr05:24
atarimastercould somebody please help  my05:24
atarimaster*me05:24
Shadow_milnow a bunch of things don't work05:24
wickedpuppyShadow_mil, why ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/05:25
O2wickedpuppy:  I want a good tool to do notes05:25
Shadow_milwickedpuppy: thought root should own them :)05:25
FlannelShadow_mil: yep.  That's not surprising.05:25
wickedpuppyO2, notes .. like ? post-it ?05:25
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wickedpuppyShadow_mil, well ... ah .... start crying ?05:25
Jack_Sparrowatarimaster: Use the source-o-matic05:25
atarimaster99% [13 Sources gzip 0]  [Waiting for headers]  [Waiting for headers]                                             21.9kB/s 0s05:25
atarimastergzip: stdin: not in gzip format05:25
atarimasterErr http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Sources05:25
atarimaster  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)05:25
blesshi i update my ubuntu breezy to dapper , one hour ago the download finish and it still saying  "preconfiguring packs"  is normal that this "preconfiguring" take 1 hour?05:25
atarimasterthats what i get when i run apt-get update05:25
whysoso, whats the beef on ext405:26
Jack_Sparrow!easysource > atarimaster05:26
Shadow_milroot@ubuntu:/usr# start crying05:26
lansingiam tryin to unpack java an it says archive is not supported05:26
Shadow_milbash: start: command not found05:26
Shadow_mildidn't work05:26
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wickedpuppyLOL05:26
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O2wickedpuppy:  I want to write dairy, and remember things05:26
Jack_Sparrowatarimaster: Did you make the mistake of running Automatix?05:26
Dr_willislansing,  unpack?  if you are trying to isntall java - read the !java bot factoid05:26
atarimasteri don't think so05:26
wickedpuppyO2, you can write in any text editor and save it ...05:26
Dr_willis!java05:26
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository05:26
Jack_Sparrowatarimaster: You would know..05:27
whysojust use eclipse05:27
atarimasterno i didn't then05:27
lansingdone that05:27
blesshi i update my ubuntu breezy to dapper , one hour ago the download finish and it still saying  "preconfiguring packs"  is normal that this "preconfiguring" take 1 hour?05:27
atarimasteryep eclipse is great05:27
lansingstill dont kno05:27
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O2wickedpuppy:  no, I want one that can save my things in one file, like a database05:27
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Shadow_milwickedpuppy: surely their is some why to recover the old settings?05:28
wickedpuppyO2, ah .. there is of course mysql database ... or you want something like access then openoffice has database .. check out application->office05:28
O2wickedpuppy:  like a repository05:28
wickedpuppyShadow_mil, yes if they know their old settings .....05:28
Shadow_milwickedpuppy: I don't ...05:29
wickedpuppyO2, like a repository ? cvs ?05:29
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shuananyone know how i can watch dvd's on ubuntu05:29
wickedpuppyShadow_mil, thats why .. i don't know a linux command that can redo whatever command did before05:29
wickedpuppy!dvd05:29
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages05:29
O2I mean, a profesisonal software that let you note things that you don't want to forget!05:29
O2 wickedpuppy: I mean, a profesisonal software that let you note things that you don't want to forget!05:30
wickedpuppyO2, really ... if i don't want to forget .. i write them down on a paper and keep it somewhere safe .. i don't trust computers for that kind of things ..05:30
wickedpuppyok ok .. no idea05:30
Shadow_milwickedpuppy: well surely their is a way to find out... I mean... how many files could their be? and we already know what it needs to be for bin,sbin,games05:30
Shadow_milthat's like 1/2 of them right their05:31
wickedpuppythere is post-it notes .. there is mysql .. there is MS-access like database .... there is cvs/svn05:31
avagantIs anyone else having problems with Firefox right now?05:31
avagantI can't get it to load up pages. It shows that it IS loading up pages, but then it doesn't go to the page.05:31
wickedpuppyShadow_mil, why are you assuming again ? the problem happened cause you assumed ...05:31
wickedpuppyShadow_mil, i can't help ya there ... one thing you can do is install ubuntu on another com and install whatever you have here .. and compare the permissions and owner one by one05:32
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Shadow_milwickedpuppy: :\05:32
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wickedpuppyShadow_mil, /usr is a pretty big one ... go look for yourself05:33
FlannelShadow_mil: yeah, best to backup /home and anything else you've changed and reinstall.  And don't chown/chmod random things in the future05:33
blessavagant, not problem here05:33
Shadow_milcdmod -R 777 /usr      that would fix my problems?05:33
avagantHmm. Well, I don't know how to make all my plugins work for Opera or anything so I don't know if I should just wait it out.05:33
Dr_willisHmmm.. anytime i see chmod and 777 - i think ICK.05:34
blessmaybe ur internet05:34
FlannelShadow_mil: no.  That'll just make it worse.05:34
avagantEverything else works fine.05:34
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fildorunning dns ?05:34
fildoor bind9 ?05:34
avagantIt's not like the internet just doesn't work.05:34
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blessa ok05:35
fildomore then likely ur settings then05:35
fildoif ur net is up05:35
avagantLike if I do a google search and click on a link, it shows that it's going to the link...but then it stays on the google page.05:35
lansingi try to use the terminal and it says canot access archive : no such file or directory05:35
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Shadow_milCan't I just fix owner ship problems as they come up?05:36
lansingi do exactly wat the forum says05:36
lansinghelp plz05:36
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fildoeven if u restart firefox ?05:36
fildojust install opera :p05:36
Shadow_milfirst one :)        chuck@ubuntu:~$ sudo05:36
Shadow_milsudo: must be setuid root05:36
Shadow_mil:D05:36
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fildolansing: have u activated sudo yet05:37
skrollis there a way to register a new protocol address in nautilus/gnome to launch an app?05:37
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lansinghow05:37
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wickedpuppyShadow_mil, the problem with /usr is /usr/share , /usr/lib and /usr/include are very important dirs ...05:37
avagantUh oh shadow.05:37
fildo!sudo05:37
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:37
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avagantShadow_mil: I had the same problem where I had changed ownership of usr/bin05:37
mikeo!hdtv05:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hdtv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:38
avagantAnd couldn't access sudo.05:38
dobbbobwhen i install the smp 686 kernel i have TWO 686 kernels on my grub menu!! which one do i pick?05:38
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avagantYou have to get to the grub menu and change it back, but I can't remember how.05:38
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Shadow_mil-R is a very bad switch :(05:38
fildoone should be recovery. the other should be the OS05:38
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SkyMountaineerrm - r all the way05:38
PerhapsToastWow, a lot of folks in here.05:38
fildo-rf is better05:38
avagantYah same thing I did, Shadow.05:38
lansinghey fildo how do ido that05:38
fildo!sudo > lansing05:39
Shadow_milavagant: no I did      chown -R root /usr05:39
avagantI learned how to -R and totally screwed everything up.05:39
fildohaha05:39
wickedpuppyavagant, he did it to /usr .. not just /usr/bin ...05:39
avagantShadow, I'm telling you that's what I did.05:39
lansingya05:39
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Dr34mC0d3rwhen i ran ubuntu 5.04 - i could type "mail" and it would give me mail sent to my username. Now im on ubuntu 6.06(fresh install) and i type mail - it always says "No mail for chris" Any ideas???05:39
fildorecursive !05:39
dobbbobhelp please05:39
avagant!recursive05:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about recursive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:39
O2wickedpuppy:  if another user to login ubuntu, will he see my document in the hard-drive?05:39
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SkyMountaineer!rm - rf05:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rm - rf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:40
avagantThat was a funny little period of time.05:40
SkyMountaineer!rm -rf05:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rm -rf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:40
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azteki know this is offtopic but a friend thought he'd be funny and rm -Rf a laptop i had running what he didnt realize was actually CD-bootable Slax05:40
avagantI almost cried.05:40
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fildoO2:  yes, but perms fix that05:40
Dr34mC0d3rwith message of "No mail for chris" - looks like mail is working - also /home/USER/maildir/new - does contain lots of mail..05:40
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dobbbobdoes ubuntu even support smp05:40
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simon__hey guy do u know a cool application for monitoring system05:41
jaredtop?05:41
SkyMountaineertop05:41
avagantSo now the whole operating system Ubuntu is going to be named Jared?05:41
Dr34mC0d3ri like top05:41
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avagantMan I can't get use to this.05:41
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Shadow_milplease... I need this fixed without reinstall05:41
jaredShadow_mil: whats the problem?05:41
avagantShadow can't sudo.05:41
Shadow_miljared: owner ship in /usr got messed up05:41
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Flanneljared: he chowned his /usr05:42
Flanneljared: so, update05:42
jaredi dont want to use an unstable version05:42
jaredShadow_mil: hmm05:42
jaredmeh05:42
avagantShadow get to the grub menu and chown root:root /usr05:42
jaredyea05:42
avagantor something like that.05:42
Shadow_milavagant: I am in root05:42
jaredShadow_mil: do you know the root password?05:42
jaredoh05:42
jaredok05:42
avagantSo you can get into sudo?05:42
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avagantI'm so confused!05:42
Shadow_milavagant: I enabled root user05:42
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Shadow_millong ago05:42
aztekso you're running as straight up root?05:43
Shadow_milno05:43
jaredShadow_mil: sudo chown nick:nick /usr05:43
yokobrhi, i need to find libSDL-1.2.so.0,05:43
dobbbobwhen i install the smp 686 kernel i have TWO 686 kernels on my grub menu!! which one do i pick?05:43
jaredShadow_mil: what is your nick?05:43
avagantShadow, it's better idea just to use another name instead of root all the time.05:43
Shadow_milI still use sudo05:43
avagantRoot = causes too much trouble.05:43
Shadow_mil*sigh*05:43
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Dr34mC0d3ranyone help with a mail problem?05:43
Shadow_milI run as chuck05:43
Dr34mC0d3rwhen i ran ubuntu 5.04 - i could type "mail" and it would give me mail sent to my username. Now im on ubuntu 6.06(fresh install) and i type mail - it always says "No mail for chris" Any ideas???05:43
Shadow_milbut root user is still enabled05:43
avagantCAN you sudo though if you weren't in root?05:43
Flanneldobbbob: you're on Breezy?05:43
Shadow_milavagant: no05:43
jaredShadow_mil: do you want all users to have access to /usr, or just root and you05:44
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Flanneljared: he doesn't.  He accidentally chowned it.05:44
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avagantI think Flannel was the one who helped me with that.05:44
jaredchown what:what05:44
Shadow_miljared: I want the correct permissions/owner ship05:44
dobbbobno im on the latest dapper05:44
jaredwhat are the correct permissions?05:44
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Flanneldobbbob: then all 686 kernels are SMP05:44
Shadow_miljared: I have no idea, its a huge complex dir05:45
aztekdefault?05:45
dobbbobflannel after i use synaptics to install the 686 smp i have two kernels at my grun menu05:45
blesshi i update my ubuntu breezy to dapper , one hour ago the download finish and it still saying  "preconfiguring packs"  is normal that this "preconfiguring" take 1 hour?05:45
jaredShadow_mil: tell me the correct permissions, and i will tell you what to do05:45
jaredoh05:45
jaredmeh05:45
jaredh/o05:45
lansinghey avagant iam dumafied on this need help wit terminal thiny to install java and frostwire05:45
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humpis there a command you can issue from the terminal to have like a notepad thing come up?05:45
Flannelhump: nano05:45
humpno no..05:45
humpwith a gui.05:45
Shadow_milmuiltable ownership, some should be chuck, others should be the program that uses them05:45
Flannelhump: gedit05:45
avagantsudo apt-get install frostwire?05:45
cafuegohump: gedit or any other X based editor.05:45
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avagantfirst check and see if it can find the package lansing.05:46
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avagantsudo apt-cache search frostwire05:46
Elephanthump:  emacs?05:46
SuperMiguelany c compiler for C05:46
avagantAnd then if it finds it sudo apt-get install frostwire05:46
SuperMiguelAny C compiler for ubuntu?05:46
FlannelSuperMiguel: sudo apt-get install build-essential05:46
jbinderShadow_mil: pm05:46
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avagantFlannel: That comes with like 900 packages haha.05:46
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lansingit cant05:47
tonyyarussoSuperMiguel: gcc05:47
billfuris there a program that will share files to itunes?05:47
atarimasterdoes anyone use gambas05:47
Flannelavagant: build-essential? comes with five.  And it's everything you need to compile.05:47
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tonyyarusso!itunes05:47
avagantOk did you go to your sources list and uncomment everything.05:47
ubotuitunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee05:47
avagantlansing: Did you go to your sources list and uncomment the right things?05:47
avagantsudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list05:47
humpadmin@admin-desktop:/home$ gedit unrealircd.conf05:47
humpcannot open display: (null)05:47
avagantAnd uncomment the things that start with deb http:// (I think)05:48
Shadow_milwould dpkg know the correct ownerships?05:48
Flannelhump: You need to do it in a gnome-termnal, not a tty05:48
lansingdont know how to do anything on this op sys05:48
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avagantlansing trust me I've been there.05:48
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humpFlannel, command.. key shortcut?05:48
Flannellansing: the wiki walks you through everything, step by step.05:48
lansingso ur talking jiberish to me05:48
avagantI started it up for the first time and had to reinstall in a day.05:48
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Flannelhump: er... programs > accessories > terminal, or alt-f2 will bring up a run dialog05:48
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avagantlansing go to the terminal.05:49
lansingok05:49
avaganttype in this exact thing.05:49
Flannelhump: of course, if you were to go through all that trouble, you might as well just go programs > accessories > text editor05:49
lansingok05:49
Flannelhump: or, whereever it is.05:49
avagantsudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list05:49
Flannelavagant: gksudo05:49
avagantOr that too.05:49
jbinderShadow_mil: chmod 775 /usr05:50
jbinderno05:50
avagantIt will give you a list of repositories.05:50
blesshi i update my ubuntu breezy to dapper , one hour ago the download finish and it still saying  "preconfiguring packs"  is normal that this "preconfiguring" take 1 hour?05:50
jbinderShadow_mil: chmod 774 /usr05:50
lansingok then wat05:50
jbinder&&05:50
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jbinderShadow_mil: got it?05:50
jbinderchmod 774 /usr05:50
avagantAre any of them uncommented as in without the ## beside them?05:50
Shadow_milchmod -R 774 /usr   ?05:50
jbinderif chmod 774 /usr doesnt work, then try with -r05:51
Flannelbless: depending on your computer speed, sure.  Mine took a good few hours.05:51
jbinderShadow_mil: if chmod 774 /usr doesnt work, then try with -r05:51
avagantbasically look for things that have deb http or deb src beside them or05:51
blessflannel , more than 1 hour?05:51
humpwhat the heck05:52
humpi just chmodded a whole directory to 70005:52
Flannelbless: right.  Although, I didn't sit around, so I don't know how long it displayed 'preconfiguring' but, long upgrades aren't any cause of alarm05:52
jbinderso05:52
humpand it still says i dont have access05:52
AB2Hi people, can anyone recommend a good music utility for ubuntu? preferably one that can be apt-got?05:52
jbinderhump: eh05:52
Flannelhump: which directory?05:52
jbinderhump, is your username hump?05:52
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cgeAB2: What do you mean by music utility?05:52
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avagantlansing you find those yet?05:52
humpchmod 700 Unreal3.2/* -R05:52
hump??05:52
AB2Well, any fairly able music player.05:52
lansingumm05:52
blessok Flannel  thanks man05:52
Flannelhump: who owns that?05:52
cgeAB2: Rhythmbox is included05:52
lansingthere ## beside a few of them05:53
avagantAB2: I use xmms it reminds me of Winamp.05:53
AB2is that typically used within an xserver?05:53
humpi chmodded as rot05:53
spanglesontoasterm what's the best ntfs driver that allows read/write and works without recompiling the kernel ?05:53
cgeAB2: Yes05:53
Flannelhump: who owns it though?  since, 700 means onlythe owner can read05:53
cgeAB2: Do you want one that isn't used in an xserver?05:53
avagantlansing: Only uncomment things that say deb http or deb src.05:53
humpwhats the level so everyone can access?05:53
jbinderhump: try chmodding 77005:53
AB2I suppose xserver's better for now :)05:53
avagantMeaning erase the ##05:53
lansingok how05:53
Flannelhump: 777 would be everyone full access05:53
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cgehump: 177705:54
avagantDon't erase the whole line, just erase the 2 ## at the beginning.05:54
cge:)05:54
jbinderhump: DONT DO 77705:54
Flannelspanglesontoast: you might try !fuse, no idea what requires recompiling05:54
spanglesontoastit does05:54
jbinderhump: 777 = ANYONE can get it05:54
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spanglesontoast:|05:54
lansingok ?05:54
avagantAnd only erase the ## in front of the things that either say deb http or deb src.05:54
Shadow_miljbinder: now it says: chuck@ubuntu:~$ sudo05:54
Shadow_milbash: sudo: command not found05:54
jbinder..05:54
jbinderwtf05:54
avagantOk, now save it if you are done.05:55
jbinderlol05:55
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jbinderShadow_mil: sudo su05:55
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cgeShadow_mil: don't use sudo su05:55
Shadow_milbash: /usr/bin/sudo: Permission denied05:55
lansingshould i delete all the ## thingy05:55
avagantNo not all of them.05:55
cgeShadow_mil: Use sudo -i05:55
humpWHAT THE HECK05:56
humpi just chmodded it to 77705:56
humpand still says premission denied05:56
avagantlansing: ONLY the ones with deb http or deb src in front of them.05:56
Shadow_milbash: /usr/bin/sudo: Permission denied05:56
avagantyou gotta go to grub, shadow.05:56
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Flannelhump: you still haven't chmodded the directory, just the files in it, probably.05:56
Shadow_milavagant: I can get root access if that's what you people want...05:56
humpdude05:56
humpchmod 777 Unreal3.2/* -R05:56
hump?05:56
cgehump: yes, don't put the * there05:56
ryan_my add/remove applications menu has dissaperared any clue how to get it back05:56
avagantShadow_mil: I'm just unclear of what the real problem is.05:56
avagantlansing: Did you only do the ones with deb http and deb src?05:57
lansingok done i think05:57
avagantOk now save and close.05:57
Shadow_milavagant: permissions/ownership in /usr are completely fucked up05:57
cgeShadow_mil: what does ls -l /usr/sbin/sudo give you?05:57
Flannelhump: ls -l  what is Unreal3.2's permissions?05:57
lansingok done05:57
cgeShadow_mil: err, bin, not sbin05:57
avagantNow do sudo apt-get update05:57
humpdrwxrwxrwx 12 root  root     4096 Oct 10 23:13 Unreal3.205:57
avagantor juust sudo apt-get update05:57
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Shadow_mills: /usr/sbin/sudo: No such file or directory05:57
avagantAnd wait until it's done.05:57
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Shadow_mil-rwxrwxr-- 1 root root 93844 2006-05-17 04:41 /usr/bin/sudo05:58
lansingok05:58
avagantIs it done?05:58
lansingi waiting05:58
avagantOk.05:58
lansingk it say done05:58
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avagantOk now do sudo apt-cache search frostwire05:58
avagantIf there were ## in front of the right things you didn't have the repositories set up right.05:59
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avagantOr even have them yet at all.05:59
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avagantWell you had them, but no access to them.05:59
lansingit just came up as comand again it didnt do anything06:00
avagantok, then you might not be able to get frostwire right off the bat.06:00
avagantTry the java thing again.06:00
jbindereveryone: /j -freenode #jbinder06:00
avagantYou might have to find the deb and unpackage it...let me try real quick.06:00
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lansingk wat do i type06:00
avagantRemember that forum thing I lead you to?06:01
jbinderis anyone having a problem that needs to be assisted with?06:01
lansingya06:01
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avagantlansing:  sudo aptitude install sun-java5-bin sun-java5-plugin06:01
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Byanis there a program that I can use to keep stats of bandwidth usage, CPU load, ect.06:02
Byan?06:02
fildotop06:02
avagantIt should work if you uncommented everything right.06:02
jbinderByan: yes06:02
Byanfildo: should've been more specific.. like.. log it and like.. cgi it06:03
avagantIt took me THE LONGEST time to figure that out, lansing so trust me.06:03
admin_hi06:03
jbinderhi06:03
Shadow_milI am going to make /home  into its own partition, then reinstall ubuntu06:03
Shadow_milwill it see /home ?06:03
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jbinderadmin_: are you the same admin from lilug?06:03
unfknblvbl!java06:03
ubotuTo install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository06:03
lansingok06:03
avagantDid it work?06:03
jbinderoh06:03
jbinderByan: right click the ubuntu task bar, and press add to panel06:04
lansingi think so06:04
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sanmarcosI have an extra ext3 hd. how can I mount it so that all users can rw06:04
baconbaconShadow_mil: youre going to mount that partition as /home during install process and it's going to work06:04
FlannelShadow_mil: yeah. you'll add it at the partitioner, without repartitioning it.  Er... I believe the liveCD can do that. No idea on specifics regarding it though, Alternate can though06:04
avagantDid it give you prompts to download it and such?06:04
jbinderByan: then select system monitor06:04
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avagantAnd accept a license yada yada?06:04
jbinderByan: /j -freenode #jbinder06:04
jbinderits too talkativeful in here06:04
Flanneljbinder: #ubuntu-classroom is another one06:04
Shadow_milFlannel: I use gparted06:04
Byanuh, the server is headless06:04
lansingit said it couldnt find it06:04
jbindermeh06:04
FlannelShadow_mil: no, you'll be doing this during the install.06:05
avagantAre you serious? Haha06:05
avagantOh man.06:05
Shadow_milFlannel: can't I do it before the install?06:05
avagantOk here....do you know how to copy and paste?06:05
avagantNot being offensive here.06:05
lansingyes06:05
FlannelShadow_mil: how are you going to mount it as /home before the install?06:05
avagant!pastebin06:05
ryan_any clue how the get the the add/remove shortcut back to the applications menu06:05
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:05
avagantGo to that website and paste the content of your /etc/apt/sources.list06:05
fuffaloi've seen some howto's that tell me to install apache etc, and some that tell me it's not needed anymore by mythtv, which should i do?06:05
FlannelShadow_mil: You'll repartition and copy everything, yes.  And then once you have a partition for your home, you'll mount it as home during the install process, without reformatting it.06:05
avagantdon't forget to sudo gedit06:05
Flannelavagant: gksudo06:06
baconbaconShadow_mil: you want to mount a partition to copy things before install?06:06
avagantFlannel: I knew you'd catch me.06:06
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Shadow_milFlannel: Im not, I am going to use gparted, move all my info in /home to a new partition, mount that partition as /home then install ubuntu on /06:06
avagantWhen you are finished post the link in here, I wanna see if you did it right.06:06
lansingumm durh06:06
FlannelShadow_mil: no.  If you mount it as /home, when you install, your fstab is going to be overwritten.  You mount it as home DURING the installation.06:06
avagantI'm not being mean man, trust me I couldn't get sound to work at all and I've done about a billion things to screw my s ystem up.06:06
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baconbaconShadow_mil: move your info on your future /home, using whatever mount point, then during install you set it up as /home06:07
lansingno i mean iam durh06:07
Shadow_milFlannel: so make a new partition, move my files to it, then during install assgine it as /home?06:07
baconbaconyes06:07
Shadow_milok bbl06:07
Shadow_milsigh...06:07
nino#pomerode06:07
FlannelShadow_mil: right06:07
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Flannelfuffalo: the mythtv package doesn't seem to depend on apache06:08
avagantTake your time lansing just know that I've been there.06:08
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Byananyways..., I am gonna reask this and be more specific, is there a program that I can use to keep server stats like load and bandwidth and then show them on a website06:08
Shadow_milgood bye curl world!   wish me luck06:08
FlannelByan: like webalizer?06:09
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tonyyarussoByan: Um, yes.  Now let's see if I can remember the name.06:09
Shadow_millet me delete some large files I don't need first06:09
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jbinderhi06:09
lansingumm avagent big prob06:09
tonyyarussoByan: Souns right ^^06:09
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avagantBig solution, hopefully?06:09
lansingthat gedit thingy06:09
avagantOk.06:09
RMorris84Hello, i made a backup of my Home directory, and i just reformatted my drive and now i want to put that home directory back, do I just copy the contents back into the home folder?06:10
lansingits gone n i saved it06:10
avagantThat's fine.06:10
avagantNo worries.06:10
PeumamanHey I was wondering how I could get a certain command to run every time I booted up.  Like i just want one line to run in a terminal, thats all06:10
avagantHold on one second.06:10
lansingok good06:10
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psusiRMorris84 yea... I assume you tared it up? just untar it back into the proper place06:10
avagantlansing: So everything in /etc/apt/sources.list is completely gone?06:10
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yokobrhi guys06:11
lansingyup06:11
RMorris84psusi: yeah i tarred it up, now will i have my firefox bookmarks back and such?06:11
avagantlansing: Go here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185758 and copy and paste this into your /etc/apt/sources.list06:11
tonyyarussoPeumaman: You can add it to the /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh script, but I'm not sure if that's the proper way.06:11
yokobrmy unreal 2004 wont run since ive uploaded....on ubuntu 6406:11
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psusiRMorris84 I think those are stored in your home dir, so yes06:11
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yokobr./ut2004-bin: error while loading shared libraries: ./libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory06:11
avagantWhat's inside the yellow box, copy and paste.06:12
baconbaconyokobr: sudo apt-get install sdl06:12
host_anyone know if there is a way to tell if I'm connecting using ndiswrapper, or if I'm connecting using the old means that ubuntu connected before?06:12
yokobrstill installed06:12
avagantIt's all set up you don't have to uncomment everything.06:12
host_if I load ndiswrapper does it automatically use that?06:12
avagantThen save that, exit and run sudo apt-get update.06:12
yokobrsdl is still installed06:13
yokobris not that06:13
lansingk how do i open the source thing06:13
DaveyJquick quesiton.. whats the KDE equivelant to gnome's "sessions"06:13
baconbacondid you go from 32 to 6406:13
avagantsudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list06:13
yokobrnope06:13
avagantor gksudo06:13
DaveyJi want to change somethin gi added when i was using gnome in my auto-startup06:13
yokobrubuntu 64 bit edition06:13
avagantBeat Flannel to it.06:13
baconbaconyokobr: ok so it worked on 64 bit before..06:13
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yokobrit runs ok, if i dont update unreal patch06:14
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samuelI have an 11 gig ubuntu partition, also I have 28 gig free space how do i add the free space to ubuntu part/ so I can have a bigger ubuntu partition?06:14
avagantpaste it all into your sources.list don't touch anything save and exit.06:14
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lansingnvm its all here06:15
yokobrbut the game have much bugs, on normal version....i had to update...but now it asks for sudo libSDL-1.2.so.006:15
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avagantWell, in your case I would most definitley just copy and paste because I don't know if you did it right.06:15
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gss6any idea when 6.10 is commin?06:15
lansingok06:15
baconbacon!schedule06:15
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule06:15
samuelI have an 11 gig ubuntu partition, also I have 28 gig free space how do i add the free space to ubuntu part/ so I can have a bigger ubuntu partition?06:15
DaveyJanyone?06:16
avagantBasically lansing what happens is when you run apt-get whatever it looks for the website to get the repositories from.06:16
avagantBy uncommenting the deb http and deb src it can draw packages from there.06:16
avagantBasically it skips anything with a ## in front of it.06:16
samuelCan anyone help? am frustrated06:16
avagantWhat I think is happening is you don't have the commented, therefore you can't get packages.06:16
lansingok06:16
samuelplease~~~06:16
lansingsaved06:16
avagantOk now run sudo apt-get update06:17
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avagantand try the java thing again. I swear it works because i just did it like 3 hours ago.06:17
avagantI just had to fresh install everything.06:17
psusisamuel: boot from the livecd and use gparted to resize the partition06:17
samuelwill it have to install everything again?06:17
psusisamuel: if it works?  no.06:17
yokobrbaconbacon, ideas?06:18
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gss6haha and i just ordered CD's from shipit, lol06:18
samuelthanks06:18
psusisamuel: but if you have any important data, you should always have a backup06:18
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baconbaconI don't know06:18
samuelthanks mate06:18
yokobri was thinking..maybe some link06:18
samuelIs ubuntu a business for profit or a community geek thing?06:18
avagantI know I"m probably the last person to dish out advice on anything but...06:18
yokobrls -l06:18
psusisamuel: both06:18
yokobrfrom lib 32 to 6406:18
psusiwell, actually, the corporation is a not for profit06:18
samuelsweet06:19
johnnygI've installed w32codecs in ubuntu and my videos all play back with a blue hue. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling the codecs with no luck. How can i fix this? Is there a "good" place to get them from?06:19
avagantblue hue?06:19
avagantDid it happen before you installed the codecs?06:19
lansingk done06:19
gss6i just use automatix06:19
avagantOk do the java package again.06:19
lansing??06:19
johnnygavagant: before I installed the codecs I couldn't play videos of certain formats.06:19
yokobrhow can i install automatix06:19
yokobr?06:19
avagantsudo aptitude install sun-java5-bin sun-java5-plugin06:20
yokobr:)06:20
avagantlansing06:20
avagantjohnnyg: but i mean was the blue hue there?06:20
johnnygavagant: no06:20
avagantwell i guess you wouldn't know.06:20
gss6www.getautomatix.com06:20
avagantjohnnyg did you get the source from the forums?06:20
w30samuel, just use gparted to make an ext3 partition out of the free space and then edit fstab to mount that partition where you want it. Like home. I myself have a partition called myshit that I sticke every yhing I have that is not operating system special in.06:20
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avagantI got everything I have from ubuntuforums.org since i'm pretty lame and n00b at the same time.06:21
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jbinderCannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/0' - please check.06:21
jbindergasp06:21
jbinderCannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/0' - please check.06:21
jbinder:\06:21
jbindermeh06:21
Madpilotyokobr, best advice about automatix: avoid it, least it break your Ubuntu.06:21
johnnygavagant: I followed the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#w32codecs06:21
avagantahhhh i don't know if they are the same as the ones I followed.06:21
adubdoes anyone know if there is a new mad wifi driver06:21
avaganti think i use wget or something to get the ones i have.06:21
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avagant"used"06:22
yokobrI have had UT2004 running with debian amd64. It ran fine, sound and video. But when I upgraded to the latest linux version (ut2004) it stopped working,06:22
adubi mean my connection is ok but sluggish not as stable as the windows connection06:22
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lansingk installin06:23
DaveyJi want to change something i added when i was using gnome in my auto-startup in Settings -> Session.. i switched over to KDE.. how do i access that original startup script?06:23
avagantSweet lansing06:23
gss6is there an easy way to get SMP working?06:23
lansingya no kiddin06:23
avagantjohnnyg: I went here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18679206:23
avagantOnce that's done I have one more thing for you to do. Haha06:23
lansingok06:24
avagantIs it done?06:24
johnnygavagant: sweet, thank you - trying ti now06:24
lansingnot yet06:24
avagantOk when it's done let me know.06:24
lansingk i will06:24
gss6is there a known issue with firefox 1.5.0.7?06:25
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adubhow can i find out what drivers my network card is using06:25
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lansingdone06:26
BHSPitLappyI've got a problem06:26
avagantOk now type this in06:26
avagantsudo update-alternatives --config java06:26
BHSPitLappyI just got home from work, opened this laptop, and it's burning hot06:26
avagantand it'll give you options with numbers in front of them.06:26
nicholaspaulQ: I know i hasve this thing installed - but whats the easy way to install tarballs?06:26
avagantpick the one that has anything that says java 1.506:26
BHSPitLappythis isn't just a one-time thing, either... it's always burning upon return06:26
BHSPitLappyand this isn't hardware-related, it's OS related06:27
lansingk then wat06:27
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avagantThen select the number and hit enter.06:27
lansingok06:27
avagantso if java 1.5 is on 2 select 2.06:27
avagantOk?06:27
avagantYou officially have java now.06:27
adubis it ok to install debs06:27
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adublol im soooo rusty its been a long time06:27
k0rdso i finally have ubuntu dual-booted06:27
lansingok06:28
k0rdtook me forever, but I got it06:28
lansingkool06:28
avagantDo you have flash yet?06:28
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k0rdme?06:28
lansingmacromedia06:28
avagantWell I guess you wouldn't, lansing.06:28
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avagantYes but do you have the nonfree one?06:28
nicholaspaulWhats the name of that program that helps install tarballs, the easy way?06:28
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lansingumm dono06:28
avagantYou might not.06:28
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avagantType this in to terminal06:28
avagantsudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree06:29
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avagantMaybe I do have hope of becoming a teacher someday.06:29
avagant:)06:29
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lansingnope06:30
TigerWolfcant seem to find anyone to help me - ITS GETTING REALLY ANNOYING! - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=160293306:30
dobbbobi added the clock frequency to my top menu bar and when i left click on it my system hangs for about 30 seconds. i can right click on it though06:30
k0rdwhat do you type after that?06:30
avagantNope, lansing?06:30
avagantyou don't have it, or nope nothing?06:30
k0rdi dont have it, it just brought up something about unpacking after OB?06:31
lansingnvm got it06:31
w30 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=160293306:31
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avagantOk did it install?06:31
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VR^hi all, which java do i need for azureus, and which for firefox?06:31
k0rdno it said it did not install06:31
avagant1.506:31
lansinginstallin now06:31
neil_dI am thinking of developing a GUI , not a very complex one but not that simple ether, what language do you recommend, C, perl, ruby etc.06:31
avagantk0rd, did you uncomment the sources.list?06:32
SuperMiguelchecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation! there is any way to fix that06:32
k0rdnope :\06:32
k0rdhow do I do that?06:32
avagantok haha.06:32
avagantstartin' all over!06:32
lansingk done06:32
avagantok now type this lansing06:32
avagantsudo update-flashplugin06:32
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avagantAnd you should have flash AND java.06:32
nicholaspaulCan someone help me with Tarballs?06:32
VR^is "sun-java5-bin" for azureus, and " sun-java5-plugin" for ff?06:33
avagantAnd you can webbrowse to your little hearts desire.06:33
lansingdone06:33
SuperMiguelchecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!06:33
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avagantk0rd what version of ubuntu are you on?06:33
gss6is there a known issue with firefox 1.5.0.7?06:33
k0rd6.0.606:33
avagantlansing: I don't know if they offer frostwire in the repositories.06:33
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avagantk0rd: But I mean kubuntu, ubuntu?06:34
k0rdubuntu06:34
lansingok wat about lime06:34
avagantOk.06:34
lansingive got lime to06:34
avagantI haven't tried that one yet....I use Nicotine which is linux's version of Soulseek.06:34
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avagantk0rd type in your terminal gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list06:34
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johnnygavagant: that worked, thanks much :)06:35
avagantlansing: I always end up somehow getting spam and viruses from frostwire and limewire, so I try to avoid it.06:35
k0rdok06:35
Bathmonsteri am looking for a mp3/movie player whats out there to use ?06:35
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avagantHey look at me! I'm a teacher of some sort!06:35
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avagantk0rd now....you see how everything has ## in front of it?06:35
lansingok wat  about azurz thingy06:35
k0rdyeah06:35
avagantI would do a search lansing sudo apt-cache search limewire06:36
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uNfOrGiViNgwhere I get edgy?06:36
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nicholaspaulCan someone tell me why ./configure doesnt work? I installed build-essential06:36
SuperMiguelsudo apt-cache search Qt06:36
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avagantwell take the ## away only from the things that say deb http and deb src06:36
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k0rdthen?06:36
avagantnicholaspaul is there a configure file IN the package? I don't know if that matters or not.06:36
k0rdsave?06:36
avagantk0rd save and exit that.06:36
avagantYes.06:37
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avagantgo back to terminal and type sudo apt-get update06:37
k0rdk06:37
SomeoneElseit there a command from ubuntu command line to get the amount of ram and the prosesser speed and type?06:37
k0rd41%06:37
avagantuname -r i think?06:37
avagantSomeoneElse?06:37
avagantOr maybe not.06:37
nicholaspaulavagant i dont see one.06:37
fooI changed the hostname on my laptop .. and I didn't change the hostname in vim /etc/hosts.. so 172.0.1.1 oldhostname still exists.. whenever I do sudo, it says, "sudo: unable to lookup newhostname via gethostbyname()" - any ideas?06:37
avagantI don't know if that matters or not, nicholas.06:37
k0rdok, now what avagant?06:38
lansingavagant06:38
avagantI just know I've always had trouble if there isn't one.06:38
avagantlansing?06:38
avagantk0rd you looking for what now?06:38
lansingive tryed searchin nuttin  comes up06:38
nicholaspaulavagant: oh i see. Thx for the tip06:38
mneptonSomeoneElse: cat /proc/cpuinfo06:38
k0rdflash & Java I guess06:38
avagantok haha.06:38
k0rdlol06:38
lansingjust comes back to comand06:38
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SomeoneElsethz guys06:38
mneptonSomeoneElse: cat /proc/meminfo06:38
lansingive got that azur program to06:39
avagantk0rd: type in this sudo aptitude install sun-java5-bin sun-java5-plugin06:39
avagantlansing: That probably means either you have to find the package and install it or....i don't know.06:39
MaKaTiGuYhow can i mount my other partions drive in ubuntu?06:39
SomeoneElsesudo?06:39
lansingo ok06:39
mneptonlansing: what are you trying to do?06:39
k0rdumm it says 0 packages upgraded....etc.06:39
dobbbobwhere can i get the w32codecs for the 686smp kernel? i only see a 386 pack06:39
avagantDid it download anything?06:39
VR^avagant: what's the sun-java5-bin for exactly? how is it different from sun-java5-jre?06:40
lansinginstall a music downloader06:40
k0rdjust a list of a bunch of upgrades I guess06:40
lansingy06:40
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avagantHmmm.06:40
k0rdit couldn't find those packages06:40
k0rdit says06:40
avagantoh snap you might not have uncommented right?06:40
mneptonlansing: lots of apps do p2p. is it a torrent client you're after?06:40
lansingno06:40
k0rdmaybe? idk06:40
k0rdfirst time doing all of this06:40
avagantk0rd: Go her.e06:40
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SomeoneElsethx mngrif06:40
lansingiam after azureus06:40
SomeoneElsethx mnepton06:40
mneptonlansing: then what? gnutella?06:40
SomeoneElse**06:40
avaganthttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18679206:41
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avagantFollow that word for word, you'll get everything you need.06:41
mneptonlansing: azureus is a bit torrent client. it requires Java, Java GNOME bindings, and other things.06:41
avagantI need to go real quick. Haha06:41
lansingo06:41
yokobrI have had UT2004 running with debian amd64. It ran fine, sound and video. But when I upgraded to the latest linux version (ut2004) it stopped working,06:41
lansingi need a p2p thing like lime wire or other06:41
mneptonlansing: enable the universe and multiverse repos and install Azureus that way. or, go the easy route and use BitTornado,06:41
mneptonlansing: for Gnutella (Limewire) use GTK-Gnutella06:42
mneptonlansing: sudo apt-get install bittornado-gui gtk-gnutella06:42
yokobrI have had UT2004 running with debian amd64. It ran fine, sound and video. But when I upgraded to the latest linux version (ut2004) it stopped working, it asks for libSDL-1.2.so.006:43
mneptondone.06:43
VR^can *anyone* answer this for me please > which package do i need to install to run azureus: sun-java5-bin, OR sun-java5-jre? and, is sun-java5-plugin the plug-in for ff?06:43
mneptonVR^: you need to install Azureus.06:43
VR^mnepton: i know that06:43
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VR^mnepton: i'm asking about JAVA06:43
mneptonVR^: it's in either multiverse or universe06:43
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eraccHrm, no "Seen" plugin for ubotu. :-p06:43
mneptonVR^: well, if you install Azureus, Java is a depnedency, huh?06:43
VR^mnepton: no, i don't want to apt-get it. it installs the whole damn mozilla suite06:43
lansingavagant06:44
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mneptonVR^: i use BitTornado+Torrentflux *because* i don;t want to mess with all the Java dependencies for Azureus.06:44
avagantlansing: ?06:44
yokobrI have had UT2004 running with debian amd64. It ran fine, sound and video. But when I upgraded to the latest linux version (ut2004) it stopped working, it asks for libSDL-1.2.so.006:44
avagantk0rd: You still here?06:45
VR^mnepton: okay, good. can you answer the other part? is sun-java5-plugin for firefox?06:45
mneptonVR^: it is06:45
avagantk0rd: Better yet, I'm sorry go here.06:45
VR^ok06:45
lansingi wanna install azureus but i dont know if itll download music06:45
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avagantlansing: Why wouldn't it?06:46
mneptonVR^: try BitTornado before you mess with Azureus. it's dead simple to install.06:46
VR^lansing: azureus is just a torrent client.06:46
wickedpuppylansing, thats a stupid question ... pardon me ...06:46
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avagantmnepton: Doesn't ubuntu come with bittorrent anyways?06:46
lansingok wat do i type cus i got it already06:46
wickedpuppylansing, the question is can you find mp3 torrents06:46
VR^mnepton: yeah, it's just that i like azureus a lot. it's very feature-rich06:46
lansingdono06:46
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avagantdid i scare k0rd off?06:46
mneptonavagant: it does, but Tornado's feature set is a bit better than the mainline client06:46
VR^gnome-bittorrent is too simple06:47
avagantmnepton: I never really use bittorrent, only but like twice.06:47
mneptonVR^: how's your httpd-fu? ever run apache+php?06:47
VR^mnepton: no, i've never done that06:47
mneptonavagant: been doing more of it setting up seeds for Edgy from this office.06:47
lansingall i want is a program that will download music06:47
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avagantmnepton: I'm always scared with bittorrent I'm gonna hit some kinda virus.06:47
yokobrI have had UT2004 running with debian amd64. It ran fine, sound and video. But when I upgraded to the latest linux version (ut2004) it stopped working, it asks for libSDL-1.2.so.006:47
VR^mnepton: actually yeah, i have run apache+mysql+php06:47
mneptonVR^: ah, because Torrentflux made me forget all about Azureus. :)06:47
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avagantmnepton: I've been looking for a certain iso of a certain os....06:48
VR^mnepton: does torrentflux allow you to pick individual files from a torrent and download only those that you want?06:48
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avagantk0rd: Earth to you? Haha06:48
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mneptonVR^: have a look at Torrentflux. if Apache and modphp are no big deal for you, Flux will rock your world.06:48
wickedpuppylansing, if you can't find mp3 torrent .. really .. i don't know what to say ...06:48
mneptonVR^: it does.06:48
avagantwickedpuppy: I couldn't find anything I liked through bittorrent or the sites.06:48
VR^mnepton: so, you need apache+php to use torrentflux, yes?06:49
wickedpuppyavagant, what is it that you like may i ask ?06:49
snoopsVR^ it uses bittornado as the backend..06:49
VR^i see06:49
avagantI like alot of hardcore and metal.06:49
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k0rdwtf u cant play .mp3 on Rhythmbox?06:49
mneptonVR^: yup, Flux is nothing but a PHP-ified front end to BitTornado.06:49
avagantAnd videogame music?06:49
wickedpuppyavagant, name one pls ...06:49
yokobrguys , pleasee06:49
snoopsVR^ it supplies bittornado with the project..so it's not a dependency..06:49
VR^well this looks a bit weird! a php client? @_@06:49
gss6lol, how hardcore?06:49
avagantConverge.06:49
yokobrI have had UT2004 running with debian amd64. It ran fine, sound and video. But when I upgraded to the latest linux version (ut2004) it stopped working, it asks for libSDL-1.2.so.006:49
fildotorrentflux is mad06:49
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polxhello06:49
avagantNorma Jean, The Chariot, Between the buried and me.06:49
polxim new to ubunt06:49
polxu06:49
polxand would like asistance06:50
avagantk0rd: You gotta get the right codecs first.06:50
polxcan someone please assist me06:50
VR^i imagine it must be lightweight, or at least lighter than azureus06:50
polx?06:50
mneptonVR^: but the cool thing is that then you can monitor torrents from anywhere. it's cool getting the latest Edgy torrents runing here at the office from my pyjamas at home ;)06:50
VR^sweet06:50
lansingwould mp3 torrent 3 work06:50
avagantk0rd: It's a bit of work, but it's worth it.06:50
gss6BTBAM is pretty good06:50
snoopsdoes it have a boss button mnepton?06:50
VR^mnepton: does it need mysql also?06:50
gss6ive heard alot about norma jean06:50
avagantgss6: The bass player ironically is from my home town.06:50
wickedpuppyavagant, can i private message you ? i don't want to post the link here06:50
k0rdavagant, did the link you give me have the codec for mp3?06:50
mneptonVR^: all the PHP does is control BitTornado, which is 100% Python. and Ubuntu loves Python.06:50
avagantYes.06:51
avagantTo both.06:51
mneptonVR^: no MySQL. just modphp.06:51
gss6lol, i've been listening to a static lullaby, its on the lighter side06:51
mneptonoh, wait...06:51
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VR^mnepton: is there a howto someplace? just so i can try it out quickly.06:51
polxhi guys i am trying to install ubutun on my laptop which is paritionined with 3 NTFS and a hidden FAT32 by the distributor...for some reason when i try and install ubuntu through live cd it doesnt se it06:51
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polxthe installation does not see my paritions06:51
avagantI've been listening to The Bled and such.06:51
polxi have set aside 10 gig of unpartitioned space06:52
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polxbut it doesnt recognise it06:52
psusipolx: why the crap did the oem set up 3 ntfs partitions? that's bizare06:52
mneptonVR^: oh yeah, yo do need MySQL. sorry.06:52
mnepton*you06:52
gss6is there a howto on torrentflux?06:52
polxpsusi: im not sure...06:52
VR^mkay06:52
psusipolx: what do you me by doesn't see it?  I can see why it can't install to it... there can only be 4 primary partitions, and it sounds like you have them all used06:52
polxi guess Benq got a kick out of it06:52
VR^that kinda makes sense06:52
avagantk0rd: On that page all those gstreamer things it asks you to put in, are the codecs to play mp3's./06:52
VR^gss6: yeah, thats what i'd like to know06:52
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avagantYou gotta install a bunch of gstreamer stuff to play mp3's.06:53
polxpsui: well my c: patition is the primary partioion and my remianing two ntfs ones are logical and my hidden partiton in weisa3206:53
avagantgss6: Norma Jean WAS amazing.06:53
ryan_my add/remove applications program isnt in my applications menu any more.......how do i get it back06:53
avagantBut only one the first disc they put out.06:53
polxmandriva 2006 detects/sees all my partitions06:53
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lansingk ive got mp3 torrent but it came up wit an error sayin couldnt display '/home/user/desktop/mp3torrentsetup.exe06:53
mneptonthere are forums on the official site. and the README and INSTALL files that came with it were good.06:53
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avagantOk, did you have firefox up when you installed the java plug?06:54
RealFGHello all. What would you pick for a good RSS editor. (not reader)06:54
wickedpuppylansing, ... torrents end with .torrent .. not .exe06:54
wickedpuppy:P06:54
psusipolx: if I were you, I'd format the drive and partition it sanely and install windows without all the adware the oem probably put in06:54
VR^mnepton: is it basically just dropping the files into /var/www ?06:54
VR^it looks that way06:54
BoratFor everyone that uses torrents, just use wine and Utorrent06:54
Boratits so east06:54
Borateasy06:54
lansingok do u have a website to were i can download one06:54
mneptonAHA!06:54
mneptonhttp://wiki.themixingbowl.org/HOWTO_TorrentFlux06:54
avagantlansing: Did you have firefox up when you installed the java and flash plugin?06:54
VR^no wine for me06:54
cpk2azureus is easy too...06:54
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Boratsudo apt-get install wine, then downlaod utorrent, then wine utorrent.exe06:54
Borateasy06:54
VR^aha!06:54
avagantBorat: Wine was confusing and I couldn't get anything to work.06:54
fildoktorrent!06:54
lansingwat u mean06:54
psusiazureus sucks donky dick.... bittornado for teh winz06:55
gss6utorrent kills my router lol06:55
VR^Borat: its nicer to run native stuff06:55
wickedpuppylansing, ah i won't put the link here ... private message me or avagant ... he should know the site by now06:55
ryan_and its the fastest client in my openion (utorrent)06:55
polxpsusi: i have reinstalled it a lot of times so it doesnt have the spyware06:55
psusipolx: partition it sanely before installing then ;)06:55
avagantNicotine+ for the win.06:55
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VR^mnepton: is that the guide you used?06:55
Boratavagant, its so easy to run wine, when you have it install like i said, all you neeed to do is click on the icon as if it was a normal program06:55
polxpsusi: im just curious why i cant see my partitions with ubuntu, but i can see it with mandriva06:55
avagantBorat: I couldn't get aim or anything to work with Wine.06:55
avagantSo Wine = lose for me.06:56
Boratim telling you just do what i said and there will be eternal happyness06:56
psusipolx: they might have set it up as a dynamic disk.... which I don't think linux understands06:56
mneptonVR^: i used the text files included with the Flux tarball.06:56
Boratavagant, thats why there is gaim06:56
psusior at least not ubuntu...06:56
mneptonVR^: if you know LAMP, it's dead easy.06:56
Boratavagant, gaim owns aim06:56
Boratsudo apt-get install gaim06:56
avagantAlthough I want to play RO but can't. :(06:56
VR^mnepton: thanks for this. i already have LAMP installed06:56
avagantBorat: Gaim is so very ugly.06:56
Boratavagant, sudo apt-get install gaim-themes06:56
psusipolx: and can you be more specific about "doesn't see it"?06:56
mneptonVR^: seriously, you'll wonder why you ever bothered with Azureus :)06:56
gss6i just cant wait for edgy....xorg 7.1!06:56
avagantI wish ubuntu out of the box didn't look so ugly.06:56
RealFGI'm using Kopete and like it better than gaim.06:56
VR^mnepton: does flux also MAKE torrents?06:57
Boratavagant, it looks way better than aim, aim looks like sh1t06:57
avagantI'm gonna have to spend like 2 days configuring it to make it nice again.06:57
ryan_anyone know a virtual machine that will run xp in linux06:57
avagantI guess I'm old school.06:57
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avagantWINE06:57
MaKaTiGuYguys how can i mount my other partition drive in ubuntu?06:57
wickedpuppyryan_, that will be vmware ...06:57
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mneptonVR^: never tried. i just use the included client in Ubuntu for that.06:57
avagantAim is my number one.06:57
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gss6vmware if you wanna be stupid06:57
Boratryan_, use VMware or soemthing like that06:57
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VR^mnepton: thanks, im gonna try this06:57
RealFGAny recomended RSS editing tools?06:57
ryan_wickepuppy thats what i thought06:57
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avagantk0rd: If you are having trouble you can always IM me.06:57
polxpsusi: what i mean...is that when you run the parition tools in the live cd or try to install it...it recognises my hard-drive as unpartitioned and asks me to partition it. Whereas with mandriva and FC intallation recognises my partitions06:57
lansingavagant could u private message me a website to get mp3 downloaders06:58
gss6gaim is pretty awesome06:58
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gss6i use it when in on a windows box06:58
Boratlansing, use torrents06:58
gss6i like www.meebo.com06:58
avagantI'm always on aim usually when on Windows, but I think I've used gaim like twice since getting ubuntu.06:58
gss6i love the alias' on gaim06:58
avagantI do like their IRC clients on here, however mIRC will always be my baby.06:58
Borati love gaim, especially the fact that it has aliases06:58
Boratand other features06:58
psusipolx: my only guess is that the drive is a dynamic disk, which I didn't think any linux distro supported, but maybe the others do....06:58
gu014i am trying to change the capture device in tvtime  in the config file is says /dev/video0 but when i load tvtime it goes to /dev/video1 and is giving me a blue screen? could anyone offer a suggestion?06:59
BoratXirc works for me06:59
BHSPitLappygaim ftw06:59
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polxwhat do you mean by dynamic discs06:59
Borathell yes06:59
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RealFGok later.06:59
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Boratgu014, have you used mythTV?06:59
avagantlansing: Your best bet if you like things similar to Azarus is Nicotine which is alot like Soulseek.06:59
psusipolx: starting with win2k MS introduced a different method of partitioning disks that they call "dynamic disks"06:59
BHSPitLappyavagant, why the hell do you like mirc06:59
avagantBHSPitLappy: Because it's simple. I like things simple.06:59
lansingk where do i get it from06:59
gu014Borat: yes, but..i want to attempt this before i get into that06:59
avagantDo some googlin!07:00
Borato07:00
avagantHaha lansing, there's a bunch of topics on the web. Hold on.07:00
BHSPitLappyavagant, how is it more simple than xchat07:00
lansingk07:00
avagantBHSPitLappy: Xchat confuses me.07:00
BHSPitLappy??07:00
gu014Borat: mythtv can be run in a window mode right?07:00
BHSPitLappythat's confusing in itself07:00
Boratgu014, have you searched the forums? there should be some info on that, its not my point of expertise, but google it.07:00
polxpsusi: how do i know whether they are dynamic discs or not...i am using acrois' partitioning tool07:00
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gss6so torrentflux doesnt take much system resources?07:00
gss6well, cpu07:00
Boratgu014, its not my point of expertise07:00
psusipolx: I'm not sure actually... and don't know what acrois is... what does fdisk say?07:01
BHSPitLappyAcronis07:01
avagantWell like I said I'm not computer wiz (Took me this long to get sound to work right had ubuntu for 2 weeks)07:01
avagant"no computer wiz"07:01
host_avagant, what about xchat confuses you?07:01
avagantNeither can I type anymore apparently.07:01
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lansingpvm me  once u find it k07:01
polxpsusi: says that my c: is primary and the rest are logical07:01
BoratXchat is nice07:01
psusipolx: I mean in linux07:01
psusipolx: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda07:02
host_I like xchat07:02
avagantWell I'm use to being able to see who's in the room, and you have to open up all these windows PLUS I don't know perl and python and I like me some scripts.07:02
mneptonavagant: looks like you typed the words "any more" just fine :P07:02
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avagantmnepton: It was a one in a million.07:02
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avagant:)07:02
BHSPitLappyavagant, I have no idea what you're talking about07:02
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avagantDang it'd be nice if my firefox would work once and a while.07:02
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DHN_WPHi, I'm having booting the LiveCD (desktop i386 6.06.1) on my desktop and laptop, is it possible that they're not supported?07:02
Boratdoes anyone here know perl or python?07:02
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DHN_WP*having trouble*07:03
avagantI had to pop open some window or something.07:03
gss6my buddy keeps trying to make me try suse07:03
wickedpuppyBorat, #perl or #python07:03
mneptonDHN_WP: did you run the CD verification check?07:03
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gss6im bout to punch him in the face07:03
avagantgss6: I considered it myself.07:03
kakaltohow can I uninstall one package and install another in the same command07:03
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BHSPitLappyavagant, mIRC has multiple windows, not xchat... maybe you've confused them07:03
kakalto?07:03
host`avagant, you can see who all is in the room07:03
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Boratwickedpuppy: what do you use it for?07:03
DHN_WPmnepon: I tried, it just died when I tried running that.07:03
avagantI don't know I had trouble, I'm using Konversation and that's fine enough for me.07:03
wickedpuppyBorat, use what for ? perl or python ? scripting of course ... what else ?07:03
host`the userlist is slightly hidden at first though, you have to click on it and scroll it over a little to the left07:03
avagantAlthough the newest conversation is nowhere to be found.07:03
mneptonDHN_WP: md5sum the image, and if it's right, burn it again at no more than 4x speed07:03
avagant"Konversation"07:03
polxpsusi: ill give it a go in the live cd terminal07:03
gss6and i tried mandriva, but the xgl support made windows look like a stability god07:04
Boratwickedpuppy: like what do you use scripting for? im new to this and im interested.07:04
BHSPitLappyavagant, http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1120/xchatkm8.png07:04
avagantmnepton: Maybe that's why every install disc I've burned hasn't worked right after the first time.07:04
DHN_WPmnepton: I did try md5sum, it's the right image.  I tried the image with VirtualPC, same result.07:04
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Geoffrey2avagant, anything in particular about Firefox that doesn't work for you?07:04
MaKaTiGu1why is it that when i mount a drive , i get permission denied07:04
mneptonMaKaTiGu1: because you need sudo07:04
BHSPitLappyI can understand the firefox thing, firefox crashes for me AT LEAST once daily07:04
avagantGeoffrey2: Well say I click on a link.07:05
gss6firefox crashes like a mfer for me07:05
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MaKaTiGu1mnepton: how do i do that07:05
avagantIt shows that I'm going TO THE link in the status bar, but it stays on the original page I was on.07:05
wickedpuppyBorat, there are plenty of uses for scripts ... for example javascript is for web apps ... perl is used widely in bioinformatics .. it has very very good regular expression functions ... python is also used in web ... google use python07:05
avagantI have an internet connection obviously.07:05
gss6mine crashes clear out07:05
mneptonsudo mount -t type /source/device /mount/point07:05
gansinhowhat should I do if my bluetooth dongle is not in the "supported list" ? is there any way to make it work?07:05
avagantMine actually works great with flash and everything else.07:05
BHSPitLappyganadist, is it not working?07:05
avagantJust won't go to any pages I need to go to.07:05
wickedpuppyBorat, if you want to discuss about scripting .. pls private message me .. this is not a channel for it07:06
avagantI just want a script to show people what I'm playing in xmms. Haha.07:06
kakaltoanyone?07:06
DHN_WPmnepton: With VirtualPC, it just dies when I try to test the CD for defects07:06
Geoffrey2hmm, interesting...I have no problems with Firefox at all, well, nothing stability related anyway07:06
avagantI can't find one anywhere.07:06
mneptonDHN_WP: re-burn the CD at a slow speed07:06
avagantGeoffrey2: I don't know if it's stability or what.07:06
DHN_WPmnepton: So I'm not sure if reburning it would help07:06
gss6well,i do use automatix07:06
gss6lol07:06
polxi am quite desperate to use ubuntu because it looks like only ditro that doesnt contain crap yet suit my laptop07:06
avagantmnepton: Is it normal for the livecd's to die after the first install?>07:06
mneptonavagant: nope07:07
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kakaltowhen I apt-get -f install, it won't install because there's a package blocking. When I try to uninstall that package individually, it complains about the former - and unmet dependencies07:07
DHN_WPmnepton: Are you sure reburning it would help? I don't want to waste another CD.07:07
BHSPitLappydesparate to use, eh07:07
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BHSPitLappypolx, what's stopping you07:07
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mneptonDHN_WP: if the md5sum of the .iso is correct, the only two suspects are a bad burn, or seriously problematic hardware. one you can try to fix, one you cannot.07:07
Boratwickedpuppy: just was interested in the basics, thanks07:07
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wickedpuppyBorat, ok .. you can start with bash07:08
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DHN_WPmnepton: OK, I'll try that07:08
polxBHSPitLappy: well firstly i cant install ubuntu...and im currently writing my thesis and so i dont want screw around to much07:08
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lansingany sugestions on programs07:08
gss6it could be crappy discs too07:08
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host`programs for what lansing ?07:08
Boratwikedpuppy, do i have to register to the server to private message?07:08
k0rdwoot!07:08
k0rdmp3 :-D07:08
BHSPitLappypolx, why can't you07:08
lansingmp3s07:09
baconbaconpolx youre making a regular backup of your thesis stuff right? I always ask07:09
k0rdlol never thought i'd be happy about being able to play mp3's07:09
BHSPitLappyexit light!07:09
polxjust first quick question...07:09
avagantCause the disc I have now won't last another install.07:09
baconbaconenter night?07:09
BHSPitLappy:)07:09
avagantk0rd: Did you figure it out?07:09
gss6usbdrives are a god07:09
polxis there a terminal window in live cd?07:09
BHSPitLappypolx, yes07:09
host`how do I change my administrator password?07:09
avagantIf so then HURRAY07:09
BHSPitLappyhost`, you shouldn't have one07:09
snoopsyes polx07:09
mneptonhost`: there is no root password on Ubuntu07:09
host`I've changed my root password, but apparently admin is different07:10
BHSPitLappyumm07:10
BHSPitLappyno07:10
host`yes07:10
psusipolx: in any linux distro you can always switch back to the old school text tty by hitting ctrl-alt-f107:10
polxhmm cant seem to find it07:10
BHSPitLappyadministrator is a windows thing07:10
mneptonhost`: why would you do that?07:10
host`I know07:10
avagantI stil can't get to a website..haha07:10
polxahh thank tou07:10
polx*you07:10
lansingdarn07:10
mneptonhost`: root has no password for a good reason. you shouldn't give that account a password.07:10
avagantYah sorry lansing.07:10
spanglesontoastis there a proper way of installing cedega ?07:10
lansingnp07:10
avagantGoogle Nicotine+07:10
lansingk07:10
host`when I open something like synaptic or any kind of administrative thing it asks for a password07:10
gss6i did just to quit sudo'ing all the time07:11
avagantIt's pretty much alot like limewire and frostwire.07:11
snoopshost` do you mean the prompt when you try to install something etc? Right that's your accounts password07:11
mneptonhost`: right. *your* password.07:11
host`I just type in my users password, if I type in my roots password it doesn't let me in07:11
psusihost` it wants YOUR password07:11
host`that's the same password for sudo too07:11
avagantBe careful with root!07:11
host`right07:11
Shoia1now a day in free cd ship-it request which version ship-it07:11
host`I know to be careful with root07:11
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avagantI know, it's a fair warning to everyone. (Experienced root/ubuntu breaker)07:11
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host`that just doesn't seem to make sense, why would I need to type the same password I typed to log into gnone to install some stuff07:12
gss6i only do it so i dont have to type sudo this sudo that07:12
mneptonShoia1: Ship-It is Dapper. there will be no Edgy via Ship-It.07:12
polxok...i just did a sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda ...and it shows that that hda 1 - hpfs/ntfs boot, hda2 extended, hda3-dell utility hda5 hpfs-ntfs hda6-hpfs07:12
avagantIt could complicate things in the long run.07:12
Shoia1ok07:12
Tru7hgss6: If you don't like typing sudo, you'd better stick to Windows. ;)07:12
psusihost` because that is how sudo is configured by default... it wants you to confirm your password to make sure you didn't wander off and someone else came by before granting you root access07:12
polxdoes that look like i have dymanic discs?07:12
mneptonhost`: your user is part of the small group of users that have the right to perform admin tasks. so, knowing that, Ubuntu just makes sure you are you.07:13
host`it's just a pain in the neck07:13
avagantAnd don't ever -R anything in /usr or /usr/bin either.07:13
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psusipolx: nope... looks normal to me07:13
lansinghey avagant got ? can u pvm me07:13
gss6after im done with my task, i exit out07:13
gansinhoplease, I need some help, I'm trying to connect my cellphone to my pc via bluetooth, however my dongle is not supported, is there anything I can do?07:13
host`and I can change it, I'll mess around later and figure out how07:13
avagantOh and if you are root hit ctrl d07:13
psusipolx: have you tried the alternate install cd?07:13
gss6no edgy via ship-it...wtf07:13
avagantif you want to get back to your user name.07:13
mneptonhost`: it's far more secure than the usual su to root. lots of Unices are using sudo exclusively (OSX being one of the others).07:13
DHN_WPWhat should I expect from Ubuntu? I have only used Mandrake before.07:14
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psusigss6: it isn't out yet07:14
avagantARG OSX07:14
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BHSPitLappyganadist, connect it how, just to sent files over?07:14
host`I've just been hitting ctrl+alt+f1 and su to root07:14
morghanphoenixI keep having problems with my cd & dvd drives. They'll act like they're reading when there's nothing there and crash KDE almost daily, I'm not talking session restart crash, I'm talking power down restarts.07:14
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mneptonpsusi: even when it is out Ship-It will remain Dapper. or that's the last i heard.07:14
avagantWell to "un-root" in the terminal you hit ctrl+d07:14
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avagantI just figured that one out.07:14
avagantThanks aztek.07:15
polxpsusi: alternate cd...the one that uses the traditional installation?07:15
psusihost`: you can just login as root with no pw from the console07:15
psusipolx: yes07:15
Tru7hHow do you get root?07:15
avagantsudo bash or su07:15
mneptonTru7h: sudo su07:15
avaganti've used sudo bash07:15
polxpsusi: thanks...07:15
Tru7hmnepton: Thanks.07:15
morghanphoenixAdd a root password, works better for me.07:15
host`how do you do that psusi ?07:15
fildobrothel . pay money. root07:15
polxoh well another set back07:15
psusisudo -s is shorter than sudo su07:15
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mneptonhost`: just use sudo su07:16
gss6psusi, it sounded like mnepton said that there will be no edgy ship-it07:16
Boratisnt it sudo sw?07:16
host`ahh07:16
mneptonhost`: (if you *have* to)07:16
avagantI played around with a Windows command term the other day and I was like whaaa?07:16
psusihost` enter 'root' when prompted for the login name on the tty07:16
DHN_WPDoes Ubuntu use a packaging system?07:16
mnepton!apt-get07:16
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)07:16
[NP] Tangent!synaptic07:16
Seveaspsusi, sudo -i is better07:16
ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto07:16
avagantBorat: I honestly don't know the right way, I've been using sudo bash07:16
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Seveassudo bash is bad07:16
psusiI'm prety sure edgy will be ship-it once it is released07:16
MadpilotDHN_WP, it uses apt07:16
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Seveassudo -i is the one true way of getting a safe root shell07:17
psusihey Seeveas, long time no see07:17
Seveassudo su - also works for that though07:17
mneptonthe correct way is to use sudo for all commands. but ifnecessary, use sudo su.07:17
Boratavagant wtf lol07:17
psusiI usually use -s since I like keeping crap in my home directory ;)07:17
gss6i should be getting my dapper ship it soon, or just in time for edgy...go figure07:17
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avagantLooks like I'm going to have to look up some more commands then. Haha07:17
mneptonSeveas: mornin' :)07:17
guest_hi07:17
psusiif I REALLY need a root shell, I boot into single user mode ;)07:17
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Seveashi mnepton07:17
Borati have finnaly converted my mom into using ubuntu07:18
guest_how are you07:18
Boratmission accomplished07:18
avagantI never knew about sudo -s or -i or anything.07:18
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Seveas\o/ Borat07:18
fildohaha07:18
Tru7hBorat: Very well done. My mother has difficulty fathoming the concept of an alternate operating system.07:18
avagantI don't know if I'm completely converted, I do miss Windows a bit.07:18
DHN_WPwho's lilo?07:18
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Borati did the wallpaper trick,07:18
Tru7hI still use Windows for agming.07:18
Tru7hgaming*07:18
Boratwhere you take a screen of the screen07:18
avagantHahaha07:19
Boratsame here, i just run ubuntu on my lappy07:19
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avagantBorat: I had that for a while when I was running fluxbox.07:19
efrancolaportehey i know i come here way too often but...07:19
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avagantA screen of my gnome screen.07:19
Tru7hI've got three desktops. One is WinXP Pro, one is Ubuntu, and one has them both on dual boot.07:19
Boratadios guys, im going to sleep07:19
lansingfor nicotine install wat one .bz2 or.gz07:19
snoopsavagant, I hate that I still have to use windows these days..Ubuntu has made my computing experience so much more enjoyable.. oh well07:19
efrancolaporteOpenOffice's spellcheck doesnt work (seems disabled) i have no idea why.... helP!07:19
fildoi triple boot !07:19
guest_adios borat07:19
Tru7hI've also got a knoppix laptop.07:19
fildoredhat / kunbuntu / winblowz07:19
avagantsnoops: Unfortunetly I've had nothing but trouble, but it's worth it.07:19
avagantI know more about an operating system now then I ever have.07:20
host`I don't like fluxbox, I was messing around in it earlier and ended up having to pkill it07:20
Tru7hI second that, host`.07:20
efrancolaportehow do you enable OpenOffice's spellcheck?07:20
host`icons appeared on my desktop all the sudden and I don't do anything but go into my other partitions07:20
snoopsavagant, yep.. I still get strange things.. but it's all part of the learning experience07:20
lansingavagant wat one do i install .gz or.bz207:20
polxBHSPitLappy: my problem with ubuntu's installation is that the partitioning tool in the live cd and the installation recognises my hard drive as unpartitioned07:20
avagantbz2.07:20
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avagantBut you've got to untar it and such.07:20
host`I couldn't*07:20
psusiI love the fact that I can do what I'm doing right now: chatting on irc, downloading bia bittorrent the iso of the livecd, and burning it, all in text mode while my X is borked07:21
Madpilotavagant, that sounds like how I got involved in Ubuntu ;) Now I tell people that I was too lazy to crack XP, so I learned an entirely new OS07:21
Tru7hpolx: Try the alternate CD.07:21
avagantGRR web needs to work hold on lansing before yo udo anything.07:21
BHSPitLappypolx, and this is dapper?07:21
lansingk07:21
polxBHSPitLappy: but my hard drive is partitioned07:21
polxBHSPitLAppy: it 6.06.107:21
BHSPitLappyouch07:21
psusihrm... Madpilot... do I know you from somewhere?07:21
avagantMadpilot: Well it started out with no sound on Windows, then sound off and on in Ubuntu.07:21
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avagantSo I've been fighting all of this from day one.07:21
avagantNow I have sound running in Alsa, purrin' like a cat.07:21
gss6im just afraid that when i get a job, ill have to provide support on windows and will forget mostly everything07:22
gss6lol07:22
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gss6college for Comp Info Sys07:22
Shadow_mil:)07:22
fildolol07:22
Madpilotpsusi, I'm on the #ubuntu channels far too much, and some other Freenode channels...07:22
psusipossibly days gone by on Effnet where I was known as |Phreak|.... but more likely... are you a motu?07:22
Tru7havagant: Did you just re-download your sound card driver?07:22
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avagantTru7h: What on Windows?07:22
fildophreakzoid !07:22
Madpilotpsusi, not a motu, never hung on Effnet - sorry07:22
Tru7hYeah.07:22
psusi?!07:22
psusiwoiiii07:22
avagantTried it, but didn't know WHAT soundcard I had until I got Ubuntu.07:22
gss6CCNP is a huge bitch for everyones knowledge07:22
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polxseems like my problem is quite unique07:23
spanglesontoasthey folks07:23
spanglesontoasthow do I enable the desktop icons07:23
spanglesontoastfor gnome07:23
fildoavagant: lshw07:23
Geoffrey2I have to say, the Ubuntu version numbering system is strange...I'm sure there's a reason for it, but it looks strange to me anyway07:23
avagantWindows, fildo?07:23
efrancolaportehow do you enable OpenOffice's spellcheck?07:23
FlannelGeoffrey2: year.month07:23
avagantGeoffrey2: I thought Ubuntu was going by the alphabet for a while.07:23
Flannelavagant: that's just code names07:24
fildogoto device manager07:24
Shadow_milkubuntu breezy badger installed, upgrading to dapper :)07:24
Madpilotavagant, the code names will be roughly alphabetical from now on, apparently07:24
avagantNO I know what one I have now, fildo.07:24
fildoah ok07:24
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avagantBut before, I didn't. I screwed up Windows and got Ubuntu and sound worked for the first time since I've had this computer.07:24
fildohow many ppl from aus here07:24
fildo!07:24
avagantRight out of the box.07:24
polxis the installation of ubuntu less superior than mandrivas?07:24
bur[n] erlol07:24
avagantThe only problem is the whole alsa issue that I've been fighting since day one.07:25
gss6i like it better07:25
psusipolx: you tried the alternate cd yet?07:25
loper06need quick help. i can't shudown my box. it hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups" ideas?07:25
wickedpuppypolx, eh ah .. what a question .. btw windows has the worst installer07:25
BHSPitLappypolx, that's a matter of opinion...07:25
efrancolaporteanyone knows how to enable open office spellcheck it doesnt work on my system07:25
Tru7hIt's possible to order Ubuntu CDs for free, isn't it?07:25
Flannel!tell Tru7h about shipit07:25
wickedpuppyyes07:25
Geoffrey2Flannel, ah...ok, so Edgey should be coming out sometime this month?07:25
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FlannelGeoffrey2: the 28th, I believe. yes.07:25
wickedpuppy!schedule07:25
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule07:25
psusiholy christ! is it really almost time for another release?07:25
Tru7hThanks, Flannel.07:25
gss6part of me just wants a way to straight install from c07:25
gss6d07:25
bimberispanglesontoast: alt-f2 then 'gconf-editor' and navigate to /appl/nautilus/desktop and check the appropriate checkboxes (eg. volumes_visible)07:25
spanglesontoastty07:25
BHSPitLappypolx, just a consideration, you could try doing your partitioning using another livecd/installer, and then hope it picks those up in the Mount Point step of ubuntu07:25
gss6instead of booting to live OS07:26
Madpilotfildo, there's also #ubuntu-au for Australian Ubuntu users07:26
BHSPitLappyshould still file a bug report though07:26
Flannelgss6: Alternate SO07:26
Flannelgss6: ISO even07:26
Geoffrey2well, since I've been told it's version 6.10, I would assume then that meant a target date in October07:26
gss6good to know07:26
loper06need quick help. i can't shudown my box. it hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups" ideas?07:26
fildocool thanks Madpilot07:26
bimberispanglesontoast: oops it's /apps/...  not  /appl/...07:26
avagantI'm having a heck of a time with Firefox today.07:26
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Tru7hbimberi: How do you do that spiffy italicising?07:27
avagantIt doesn't want to go to webpages.07:27
shinobi2i am using  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 root=/dev/sda6 ro vga=788 quiet splash  ; but the words are still fat and stretched, i am on a 1280x800 screen , anyone know how to fix this for console?07:27
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spanglesontoastty though bimberi07:27
avagantI'm afrarid of how many dependencies and what I'll screw up if I got rid of it.07:27
gss6any good howto's on SMP support?07:27
polxfor some reason im linux curesed07:27
polxFC gave me the shits, mandriva was buggy and heavy of crap07:28
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wickedpuppy!ubuntu-au07:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-au - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:28
polxand now ubuntu wont install07:28
avagantpolx: LIke I've mentioned I've had to do a fresh reinstall 7 times in the past 2 weeks.07:28
bimberiTru7h: i didn't, unless your client is doing something to words between /slashes/07:28
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Tru7hThat's what it's doing. Cool.07:28
avagantI think I win n00b of the year award.07:28
lansingno dont know how to ur ? avagant07:28
polxi think i take n00b...i cant even install07:29
polxuntill my thesis is out the way i cant play with the penguin07:29
psusipolx: did you try the altnernate cd?07:29
avagantI've been on like 5 different versions of linux.07:29
avagantIn the past 2 weeks.07:29
Tru7hIs anybody experienced with setting up printers for Ubuntu? Mine's been giving me some difficulty.07:29
avagantEach one not working.07:29
loper06need quick help. i can't shudown my box. it hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups" ideas?07:29
Geoffrey2well, makes me feel a lot better about my copy of Ubuntu self-destructing a few weeks ago07:29
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avagantDO NOT try gentoo unless you have like 2 days to kill.07:29
Flannelpolx: burn slower, 4x07:29
Xanteravagant: hehehe07:30
polxno i have not tried the alternate cd because i am in confereace/meeting07:30
psusipolx: try that.. I have not even seen the new livecd installer yet...07:30
DHN_WPavagant: I tried it once, gave up after a day07:30
avagantI spent half a day installing it, and after about 8 hours it was only on package 88 of 300 and some and I said screw it.07:30
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Tru7hpolx: From my experiences, the alternat CD is more effective.07:30
avagantWhy do they make it so hard?07:30
polxpsusi: you only use the alternate cd?07:30
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avagantI'm having issues with my live cd disc too, seems it just wants to die after the first initial use of it.07:31
loper06why is it so hard to get help?07:31
loper06i can't shudown my box. it hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups"07:31
psusipolx: I have yet to install dapper from scratch, I started running breezy release candidates, then just upgraded to dapper07:31
polxthanks guys for helping me out...after i finish my meeting...gonna go grab the alternate as see if it can install07:31
avagantI burned it at 8x.07:31
Tru7hIt seems the Live CD only works well on faster computers.07:31
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avagantWell that leaves me out then. Hah.07:31
polxpsusi: is edgy the latest one correct?07:31
XanterTru7h: I take it installing with the live-cd on a 600mhz thinkpad would be a really bad idea ;)07:31
Tru7hWhen I tried to install ubuntu on this box with the Live CD, the thing wouldn't even boot up. No complaints about the alternate.07:31
avagantIt takes me at least an hour and a half to get a full install if it works.07:31
polxpsusi: the one in beta correct?07:31
psusipolx: that is what is currently in development, yes07:32
Tru7hXanter: Aye, it would.07:32
polxTru7h: does the alternate cd work better than the live?07:32
avagantThe xubuntu disc won't even start.07:32
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Flannelpolx: yes07:32
Tru7hpolx: Yes, the Live CD's been known to have more installation errors.07:32
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avagantIt gets to the "boot up" screen where the little progress bar goes and stops on the second message.07:32
Flannelpolx: Alternate instlalation is the same as the install CD has been forever07:32
Tru7havagant: That's the same problem I had.07:32
avagantTru7h: So then alternative cd from now on.07:33
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aardfoxHello everyone, I'm having a problem with beryl. When I go to "select window manager" and click on Beryl the screen flashes 3 or four times then goes back to Metacity. I'm sure I'm the 10,000th person to ask about this but I've found that the HowTo's are only helpful to a point.07:33
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kakaltoI can't install anything - my apt-get complains that a missing dependency is libuim3. when I try to install that, it complains about conflicting package libuim007:33
kakaltocan anyone help?07:33
Tru7havagant: For sure. The Live CD is intended just for trying out Ubuntu.07:33
loper06i can't shudown my box. it hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups"07:33
Tru7hIf you want to get the most out of it, you definitely need to install.07:33
avagantIt does take a billion years to load.07:33
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snoopsaardfox there's #ubuntu-xgl which may be more helpful.. Have you got an nvidia or ati?07:33
aardfoxati07:34
Tru7havagant: If it takes more than a half hour, I'd just ditch it.07:34
avagantOooooo yah.07:34
aardfoxati x700 pro07:34
Tru7havagant: I tried the Live CD on my laptop, was booting for an hour and then I killed it. The alternate CD had no troubles at all.07:34
avagantHalf hour is REASONABLe.07:34
snoopsand the fglrx drivers are installed for it aardfox?07:34
physicsnickhi, i just created a link to a bad resource in remote:/07:34
physicsnicknow it won't let me edit or delete the thing07:34
physicsnickhow do i get rid of it?07:34
lansingavagant did u get it to work07:34
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avagantNo my net refuses to work.07:34
aardfoxyes, snoops07:34
lansingdam07:34
loper06why is it so hard to get help?07:34
loper06i can't shudown my box. it hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups"07:34
Geoffrey2anyone using Firefox 2 at this point?07:35
Bipskernel panic after compiling kernel-2.6.18.. error message attached http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26257/07:35
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lansingiam07:35
Tru7hObviously booting from a Live CD will take longer since the entire OS is loading from it. I prefer the alternate CD in many ways.07:35
physicsnickGeoffrey2, i am07:35
aardfoxGeoffrey2 I've used it07:35
Xanterhrm, from the website (ubuntu.com) it seems that only the server install has a simple LAMP pack?. I want to use the machine for a backup webserver and as.. well basically a tv/media box. Any suggestions for what to go with?07:35
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avagantlansing: There's a repository for nicotine+ that makes it 300 times easier to install.07:35
aardfoxit's damn cool07:35
snoopsaardfox, yeah.. then I suggest #ubuntu-xgl07:35
aardfoxok07:35
aardfoxthanks snoops07:35
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avagantlansing: You would basically have to learn how to compile and make the whole entire program with that tar.bz07:35
Geoffrey2is it a decent upgrade from 1.5?07:35
avagantI know because I tried.07:35
tonyyarussoXanter: I believe you just need to install ubuntu-server.07:36
loper06i can't shudown my box. shutdown hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups". boot works just fine. HELP!!!07:36
avagantI have a question, has anybody had any success with last.fm?07:36
lansingo07:36
polxone problem that i had with my lappy with mandriva was no sound due to my ICH7 soundcard07:36
aardfoxGeoffrey2: yes07:36
polxis that the problem with ubuntu?07:36
Xantertonyyarusso: Will that give me the same basic choices for gui as the desktop version?07:36
avagantOh you CAN sudo apt-get install nicotine but it's an older version.07:36
lansingis there an easy way to instll nicotine07:36
avagantthe latest is 1.2.5.1 the one in the repositories is like 10.807:36
tonyyarussoXanter: I mean you can do your regular install and do that on top - all Ubuntu versions have the same packages, it's just a matter of what they install by default.07:37
Geoffrey2well, as soon as it's available in the repos, I'll have to install it07:37
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Tru7hThe repositories always seem to be out of date.07:37
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avagantIf i could get to the website I'd show you, lansing.07:37
lansingthats the one i got is nicotine 10.8.tar.bz.207:37
avagantBut firefox is not letting me do ANYTHING.07:37
avagantOk you definitley need the latest version.07:37
Xantertonyyarusso: kay07:37
Geoffrey2avagant, have you tried a different browser?07:38
lansingok wat do i do07:38
avagantOk google Nicotine+ trac07:38
lansingcus iam on the nicotine website it self07:38
avagantGeoffrey2: I'm about to shut it down and try it again.07:39
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k0rdhow do you get Nicotine?07:39
psusiyou SMOKE... which is what I'm going outside to do now ;)07:39
k0rdcan you apt-get?07:39
avagantwell if you just want something you can apt-get.07:39
Geoffrey2avagant, after all, Opera is available for Ubuntu07:39
tonyyarussok0rd: Yes07:39
avagantIf you want the older version yes, k)rd.07:39
avagantIf you want the newest one, you have to find the repository they just put up and add it to your list.07:39
avagantI have it up right now but can't get to the website.07:40
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Geoffrey2what the heck is Nicotine anyway?  I keep seeing people talking about it in here?07:40
k0rdhow do I get that program07:40
lansingi want wat ever one will work07:40
k0rdthat displays temperature07:40
k0rdn shit right below the time?07:40
avagantHave you heard of soulseek, Geoffrey?07:40
avagantIt's a port of Soulseek for Linux.07:40
avagantIt's the only thing I ever use.07:40
k0rdwhats the command for apt-get nicotine?07:41
tonyyarussok0rd: Google "computertemp berlios"07:41
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jUggERNAUt1980phew!  i made it!  haha07:41
loper06i can't shudown my box. shutdown hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups". boot works just fine. HELP!!!07:41
loper06i can't shudown my box. shutdown hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups". boot works just fine. HELP!!!07:41
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Geoffrey2ah, of course, file sharing.....07:41
jUggERNAUt1980hey, has anybody here installed neverwinter nights on ubuntu??07:41
aardfoxI'm trying to install cedega and it says that the "xlibs" dependency is not satisfiable, when i have xlibs installed07:41
Tru7hjUggERNAUt1980: Isn't that a Mac application?07:42
k0rdisn't there one07:42
k0rdto display the temp outside07:42
k0rdnot the core temp?07:42
mneptonlansing: i answered your questions like an hour ago07:42
k0rdlike the temperature in your zipcode?07:42
k0rdthats what I mean07:42
Shadow_milwhats the apt-get line to install gnome?07:42
Tru7hAs far as I know, there's no Mac programs that run on Ubuntu.07:42
Shadow_milapt-get install gnome ?07:42
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jUggERNAUt1980Tru7h, it's actually a windows game, but there are resources for installing on linux, but i can't seem to get the game to work right.07:42
mneptonShadow_mil: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop07:42
Tru7hjUggERNAUt1980: Did you use wine?07:42
Shadow_milmnepton thanks07:42
k0rdwhats the apt-get for Nicotine?07:42
jUggERNAUt1980it's telling me that it can't create mcop directory.07:43
avagantOk now it works.07:43
avagantsudo apt-get install nicotine.07:43
avagantminus the period.07:43
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tonyyarussok0rd: Oh, then just right-click add to panel, select weather applet07:43
jUggERNAUt1980you shouldn't have to with the downloaded resource files and nwn linux client.07:43
avagantSo wait is it better to sudo -i or sudo su then it is sudo bash?07:43
Tru7hjUggERNAUt1980: Not all games are supported by wine. There's a list on the wine website of supported games.07:44
loper06i can't shudown my box. shutdown hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups". boot works just fine. HELP!!!07:44
loper06i can't shudown my box. shutdown hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups". boot works just fine. HELP!!!07:44
avaganthttp://www.nicotine-plus.org/wiki/NicotineOnDebian07:44
jUggERNAUt1980Tru7h, you shouldn't have to with the downloaded resource files and nwn linux client.07:44
jUggERNAUt1980Tru7h, use wine, i mean.07:44
Tru7hloper06, stop flooding the channel. If you've asked your question three times or more and nobody's responsed, it means nobody knows how to help you.07:44
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k0rdtony, I installed the harddrive package, but nothing is coming up?07:44
avagantGo the bottom of the page, in your terminal fill out everything it has in the box..07:44
SpaceFrogDoes anyone know how I can get my Multimedia keys on my keyboard to work with programs like Rhythm box? The Volume control +/- works by default with Gnome, but I want my play/stop buttons to work with my Media Player. If possible the web and email buttons would be good, too.07:44
Tru7hjUggERNAUt1980: It depends. Where did you get the files from?07:44
jUggERNAUt1980Tru7h, there's a bit of a howto on the bioware website, and i seem to have followed the instructions correctly.07:45
tonyyarussok0rd: It's part of the default Gnome-panel options07:45
k0rdi mean the berlios program you suggested07:45
jUggERNAUt1980Tru7h, from the bioware nwn website.07:45
gss6is automatix really that bad?07:45
avagantI could never get adesklets to work so don't use that.07:45
Tru7hjUggERNAUt1980: I'm not sure, sorry. I'm still inexperienced, but I'm sure somebody else here can help you.07:45
mneptonjUggERNAUt1980: NWN works fine on Linux. you are probably getting that error because when you launch the game it is trying to create a dir somewhere you do not have write privileges.07:45
k0rdwhere do I right-click again?07:46
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aardfoxI'm trying to install cedega and it says that the "xlibs" dependency is not satisfiable, when I do in fact xlibs-dev installed. Any advice?07:46
aardfoxin fact have*07:47
jUggERNAUt1980mnepton, how can i set those write priveleges?07:47
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tonyyarussok0rd: On the panel07:47
jUggERNAUt1980mnepton, can i private message the error message to you?07:47
puffEvening, I finally broke down and bought an ipod nano, trying to use it with gtkpod.  It seems to have the songs on it but it won't play them.07:47
avagantOk I spoke too soon.07:47
avagantMy sound worked absolutely fine and now sound in firefox isn't working at all.07:48
avagantWTF07:48
k0rdhmm07:48
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physicsnickalright x is down07:48
physicsnickwhat command did you want me to run?07:48
physicsnickoops wrong window07:49
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mneptonjUggERNAUt1980: try launching the game with sudo once.07:49
jUggERNAUt1980mnepton, ok will do.  i'll let you know.07:49
mneptonjUggERNAUt1980: i don't play or use NWN, so exact errors won;t help. no direct experience.07:49
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host`I don't need bluetooth, and i don't need RAID, how do I stop the services from running on boot?07:50
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CrippsFXI installed vmplayer (and the associated kernel modules) using apt-get, and I'd like to run vmplayer, but I'm told that there's no /dev/vmmon ... so I try to do modprobe vmmon, but it tells me that there's no such module ... any ideas?07:50
jUggERNAUt1980mnepton, hmm...it gave me the same error, seems like it's looking for a .kde directory, but i'm using gnome, not kde.07:50
host`/dev/ isn't modules are they?07:51
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CrippsFXhost`, no, but it also told me that the vmmon module wasn't loaded.07:51
mneptonjUggERNAUt1980: NWN forums or channels may be of more help.07:51
host`try searching apt for that07:51
host`can't hurt07:51
host`or you can locate it07:51
CrippsFXhost`, done. Didn't get anything.07:51
jUggERNAUt1980mnepton, ok thanks muchly!  :)07:51
mneptonjUggERNAUt1980: np, although i'm not sure how i helped ;)07:52
CrippsFXhost`, well, I did the apt-cache thing ... I'm running find right now.07:52
host`'locate vmmon'07:52
deorypcould someone help me out getting glx to work on ubuntu?07:52
CrippsFXhost`, no output07:52
mneptonhost`: if he just installed it he'll have to "sudo updatedb" before locate will actually locate anything ;)07:53
host`ahh07:53
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avagantOk, I swear like 10 minutes ago I had sound in alsa coming from xmms AND firefox.07:53
avagantAnd now, I have no sound in firefox but sound in xmms.07:53
host`try that CrippsFX07:53
CrippsFXhost`, I'm on it.07:53
avagantAND it's giving me that stupid "make sure soundcard is not blocked" crap.07:53
jUggERNAUt1980mnepton, you helped by pointing me towards a better dirction.  i came here because i am having trouble with finding the correct info in the bioware nwn forums, and am still a bit of a n00b, so it's tough anyway.07:54
Shadow_milWill apt sources cut people off?07:54
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Xanteranyone happen to have any experience with a hauppauge pvrusb2 ?07:54
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niruhello all07:55
host`hauppauge?07:55
jUggERNAUt1980hello niru07:55
Tru7hMy laptop's resolution is funny. Even if I just run BIOS, it's all centered and tiny with huge margins. Can anybody help?07:55
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niruI want to have my own repository07:55
lansingk wat do i do iam at the site07:55
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jUggERNAUt1980Tru7h, what lappy do you have?07:55
mneptonavagant: Firefox's sound depends on no other app using the ALSA subsystem. it's an antiquated bug. kill any apps using ALSA, restart Fx, and sound will return.07:55
teenprogrammerhi07:55
teenprogrammerquick question ,. . .07:55
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teenprogrammerIs it easy to make ubuntu dual monitor?07:56
avagantso i can't listen to music and watch youtube eh?07:56
teenprogrammerO_O07:56
Tru7hjUggERNAUt1980: Uhh... it's a Dell Inspiron 8000.07:56
jUggERNAUt1980anybody here know if there's an nwn forum on freenode?07:56
avagantThat's gonna make or break me. Haha07:56
mneptonavagant: at this time, no.07:56
Shadow_milteenprogrammer: yes, though its not ubuntu your making dual, its your Xserver07:56
jUggERNAUt1980Tru7h, sorry about your luck man, dell sux07:56
niruThat repository should get packages from upstream and there should be automatic compilation also07:56
CrippsFXhost`, lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/vmware-player/vmmon.ko07:56
avagantIf I use esd and alsa I can seem to use it.07:56
mneptonavagant: and FYI, it's "GooTube" now ;)07:56
avagantYah I know hahaha07:56
host`avagant, you can't watch youtube?07:56
teenprogrammerShadow_mil: Ah, well . . .its weird, right now it is mirroring07:56
teenprogrammerO_O07:56
CrippsFXsonofabitch ...07:56
Tru7hlmao @ mnepton07:56
sproingiealsa must die die die die die die die ... kill kill destroy07:56
Shadow_milteenprogrammer: you have two video cards?07:56
avagantI can't if I'm running xmms under alsa and firefox with alsa.07:57
Xantermnepton: that is so wrong :-p07:57
CrippsFXhost`, I'm running 2.6.15-2707:57
teenprogrammerno07:57
CrippsFX:P07:57
teenprogrammeri have07:57
Tru7hGoogle's taking down all the copyrighted stuff on YouTube... music videos and everything...07:57
jUggERNAUt1980Tru7h, if i would wager a guess, i'd say you need to ndiswrapper the proprietary drivers for your display adapter and maybe even your monitor.07:57
nirujUggERNAUt1980:Is there any tool available for this07:57
MaKaTiGuYhow do i get permission when accessing mount drive07:57
lansingavagant? wat do i do wen i get to the site07:57
teenprogrammerDVI and VGA07:57
teenprogrammer^^07:57
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avagantHold on lansing.07:57
lansingk07:57
Tru7hjUggERNAUt1980: I'll look into it, thanks.07:57
avagantNow I've got my own problems...haha.07:57
jUggERNAUt1980niru, sorry, i don't know.07:57
lansinglol ok07:57
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noiesmoanyone done a successful upgrade from dapper to edgy?07:57
niruany body else knows07:57
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host`CrippsFX, if modprobe didn't get it, then I don't know what to tell you, someone else may be able to help you07:58
teenprogrammerHow do i dual monitor/07:58
host`what exactly does the error say?07:58
Shadow_milteenprogrammer: I am not sure if its possable to do it like that... I have own seen it with people with two video cards...  Make sure you have two screens setup in your xorg.conf file and that your two monitors are using one each07:58
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Shadow_milteenprogrammer: pastebin you xorg.conf file07:58
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CrippsFXhost`, basically, apt-get install installed the modules for the edgy kernel, I just have to get the dapper modules (I'm running my dapper kernel on edgy ... ndiswrapper issues)07:58
MaKaTiGuYhost: how do i get permission when accessing mount drive07:59
niruShadow_mil:I want to have my mirror server setup and that should have a tool to see all updation that is going in the upstream as well as compile the package07:59
teenprogrammerwhere is xorg.conf07:59
aardfoxif synaptic says I have a program such as Wine, how do I find it if it isn't under applications?07:59
host`aardfox, wine is all text based07:59
Shadow_milniru not sure07:59
host`I believe08:00
Shadow_milteenprogrammer: /etc/X11/08:00
Xanteraardfox: wine is usually run from the console08:00
MaKaTiGuYhost: You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-hda1".08:00
avagantmnepton: But what's weird is I seriously was JUST running firefox and xmms under alsa.08:00
aardfoxoh08:00
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niruthen how ubuntu is doing08:00
host`MaKaTiGuY, are you doing 'sudo' first?08:01
MaKaTiGuYhost: what is the syntax?08:01
MaKaTiGuYya08:01
host`what are you trying to do MaKaTiGuY ?08:01
Shadow_milteenprogrammer: I do not completely remember, but I remember something about having to have two Xservers running.  Which I have not clue how to do08:01
Tru7h"Resizing partition... 1%" << This will take awhile...08:01
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Tru7hOoh, it went to 2%!08:01
host`text edit something?08:01
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host`man, I'm out of here, it's time for bed, night08:02
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Tru7hSleep well, host`.08:02
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MaKaTiGuYhost: it is already mounted but when i access the drive, i cant view the content of that drive, no permission08:02
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teenprogrammerShadow_mil: How do i edit my xorg?08:03
k0rdhmm08:03
k0rdso i think Linux > Windows08:03
k0rdonce you get the damn thing running08:03
lansinghow do i remove programs08:03
avagantAnd now I can listen to youtube and xmms at the same time all the sudden.08:03
avagantWTF08:04
wickedpuppylansing, the same way you install programs ... but remove instead of install .. like sudo apt-get remove program_name08:04
avagantis this whole .asoundrc thing even worth doing?08:04
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lansingok thanx wicked08:04
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Shadow_milteenprogrammer: you change xorg.cong08:04
Shadow_milteenprogrammer: you change xorg.conf *08:05
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lansingits locked my list directory wat do i do08:05
Shadow_milteenprogrammer: this is really a better question for #xorg , becuase I have never tried to setup a dual screen08:05
Shadow_milthough that channel is dead often08:05
Flannel!tell teenprogrammer about xinerama08:06
mneptonk0rd: once you get Linux running, it tends to "just run." by contrast, Windows may take a little less time to get the basic configuration done, but then you have to add antivirus, firewalls, patches, and tons of other stuff that takes hours. and after that you need to spend significant time every day just keeping it running.08:06
aardfoxwhere is the "c:/windows/system32" folder that wine creates?08:06
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Flannelaardfox: ~/.wine/c_folder/ is C:\ or... something close to that08:06
teenprogrammerO_O08:07
lansingnvm got it08:07
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avagantAnyone able to get two programs using alsa exclusively together with little to no weird set up?08:07
Shadow_milapt would be so much better if it would install the things it has downloaded while downloading the new stuff08:07
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sproingie" and after that you need to spend significant time every day just keeping it running."08:07
sproingieballocks08:07
FlannelShadow_mil: it does...08:07
Shadow_milnot that its not great now08:07
kitsuneofdoomis there any way to get an old fglrx package?08:07
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k0rdmnepton, i've noticed, I've been using for Ubuntu for around 3 hours, and already like it better08:07
FlannelShadow_mil: oh, you mean concurrently. That'd get messy08:07
k0rdgave me a good feeling that I finally got it running08:07
k0rdyou know?08:07
noiesmoavagant, yeah I can get  sound from both a game or other app whilst using amarok08:07
Shadow_milFlannel: I can see that, but still if you did it in the right order.  and asked for the packages in the right order...08:08
teenprogrammerwell08:08
teenprogrammerthanks Shadow_mil08:08
teenprogrammerg2g08:08
Shadow_milteenprogrammer: np08:08
teenprogrammerBye!!!08:08
Shadow_milcya08:08
avaganti just had gaim, firefox and xmms running not even like 3 hours ago with alsa all at the same time producing sound.08:08
avagantNow all the sudden it's like downhill.08:08
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james296for some reason when I downloaded files using Automatix2, my System Documentation files used in Yelp are like completely empty except for About Ubuntu, what happened and how can I fix this? I already tried reinstalling yelp but that didnt work08:08
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aardfoxhow do i add an address bar to the file browser? it makes me sad to not have the power of one08:09
Flanneljames296: Automatix breaks things08:09
aardfoxthe option isn't under "view"08:09
james296so how do I fix this?08:09
Flanneljames296: you'll have to ask people in #automatix, We have no idea.08:09
kitsuneofdoomis there any way to get an old fglrx package? I want 2.24.8, because it has been reported to work with my card, whereas the modern one doesn't. Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake, 32 bit, ATi Radeon 200M08:10
avagantI guess perhaps my problem isn't solved.08:10
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avagantI thought there was a work around to making everything work through alsa.08:10
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Geoffrey2can I install Firefox 2 alongside Firefox 1.5 without overwriting it?08:10
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Flannel!tell Geoffrey2 about firefox08:11
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k0rdhmm08:11
k0rdall of a sudden08:11
k0rdmy connection just fucking sloweeddd down08:11
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Flannel!language08:11
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.08:11
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k0rdno one would happen to know the pop3 address for Gmail is, do you?08:12
nirumay I know who is the mainatiner of the ubuntu08:12
Flannelniru: no one person is the maintainer of ubuntu.  What are you looking for?08:12
snoopsk0rd I'm not sure they even have one..since all the revenue from gmail is from ads..08:12
niruI want to ask some questions on mirror server08:13
lansingive got nicotine but it wont let me connect08:13
AbortDsnoops gmail uses pop308:13
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Flannelk0rd: gmail does pop?  I thought you needed a scraper sort of thing.  There's a gmail pop interface thing... I think in the repos08:13
bawnpapop.gmail.com  durr08:13
AbortDit tells you if you go to www.gmail.com08:13
AbortDand the outgoing is like smtp.gmail.com08:13
AbortDi got thunderbird set to gmail08:13
Flannelniru: you're looking to become a mirror?08:13
niruFlannel:I want to know how ubuntu mainatines there repository08:13
avagantOk who here has sound working for more than one thing in alsa with little to no extra configuration?08:14
mAIJKIm using qTorrent and think my download speed is very low. What can be wrong?08:14
avagantAnd more importantly HOW DO I DO IT08:14
bawnpaanyone know why my clock in linux slowly drifts ahead by like 2 hours a week?08:14
bawnpamy system really freaks out when i set the clock back to the correct time08:14
AbortDplain and simple alsa sucks08:14
niruDo they use any automation tool for autoupdation and automatic compilation08:14
AbortDbut08:14
bawnpathe bios time is correct wehn i reboot and look08:14
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Flannelbawnpa: because computer clocks are always wonky08:14
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AbortDavagant: it only happens to me with certain things i run in alsa08:14
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bawnpai seeked on google but i don't have the sorts of CPUs that people mention having this problem with08:14
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niruFlannel:Any tool for doing updating and compiling to ubuntu package08:15
bawnpaarg well  linux really freaks out when files are modified dates are in the future :/08:15
snoopsk0rd yep, sorry http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=12103 that's pretty handy08:15
k0rd:) ty08:15
avagantI was JUST running firefox/xmms/gaim and the sounds were going fine together.08:15
avagantNow all the sudden they are fighting for each other.08:15
mneptonbawnpa: use ntpd08:15
AbortDfighting for each other?08:15
InwoDIs Linux a genuine quality OS or just a peice of crap trying to be like Windows? i'm not trying to start a flame.... I just dont know jack about linux08:15
avagantFor the right spot.08:15
avagantI have everything set to alsa.08:15
avagantI killed esd.08:15
avagantWhat's the deal?08:16
AbortDlinux is a pos that's why you dont see a windows channel08:16
mneptonInwoD: if you're not trying to start a flame, why use such incendiary language?08:16
Flannelniru: I've got a link for you, let me find it.08:16
InwoDSorry that's just me lol08:16
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InwoDIs linux quality stuff?08:16
avagantIf you can get your sound to work right, yah.08:16
InwoDI have a business running Windows 2000 and was considering Ubuntu08:16
k0rdok, so whats some other add-ons to Linux that are useful?08:16
Flannelbawnpa: linux uses the hardware clock, with your timezone offset08:17
InwoDMicrosoft Windows is expensive08:17
avagantisohunt.com?08:17
O2hello, anyone could tell some UML tools ubuntu can use?08:17
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ggilbert_InwoD: Well, it's managed to hang around for about 15 years. There must be something to it :)08:17
mneptonInwoD: the fact that Google runs on Linux and not Windows should tell you something.08:17
Shadow_milman fonts take so freaking long to install08:17
bawnpaso in /etc/timezone is "US/Pacific" an acceptable value?08:17
mneptonbawnpa: do not touch those files08:18
noctiInwoD, depends on your business.08:18
InwoDWe make livestock identification systems08:18
snoopsInwoD, for servers, absolutely, without a doubt, it's totally fantastic, same for solaris. For desktops..I've found ubuntu to be the easiest to use..but still had some small trouble..It's a learning experience, and the whole opensource philosophy is much more agreeable in my books08:18
mneptonbawnpa: /etc/timezone should never be edited.08:18
noctiInwoD, programming?08:18
Shadow_milmnepton: funny... xorg.conf file says that too ;)08:18
bawnpais sudo tzconfig an acceptable way to change it08:19
Flannelbawnpa: yes08:19
lansingavagant r u able to help ive got nicotine installed but it wont let me conect to server08:19
mneptonbawnpa: sudo cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/path/to/correct/timezone/stub /etc/timezone08:19
k0rdyou gotta have a soulseek account08:19
noctiInwoD, if just internet and office stuff then linux is ok. if you want to run proprietary (ie M$ only) software then it's different.. and wine is not that good yet..08:19
lansinghow do i do that08:20
k0rdIdk, I had mine from a long time ago08:20
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lansingok08:20
avagantDo you have the right ports fowarded?08:20
lansingi dont know08:20
mneptonbawnpa: but the answer to the clock drift problem is to install and correctly configure ntpd08:20
mneptonlansing: can i have 3 minutes of your time? seriously. 3 minutes.08:21
InwoDwe still have to use Windows to run the laser markers but in terms of office use and information and ordering I would prefer a free OS08:21
bawnpaalright08:21
bawnpathanks  you mnepton08:21
InwoDthe production machines use to run on os2....but we had to go to Windows 2000 and its really expensive08:21
lansingya08:21
mneptonInwoD: for document creation, e-mail, web browsing, and other tasks Ubuntu will serve you wlel08:21
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mnepton*well08:21
lansingi need help wit program ne ways08:21
mneptonlansing: open a terminal08:21
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niruFlannel:did you get any site08:21
lansingok done08:21
Flannelniru: eh, I can't find the wiki page.  You might want to ask your questions in #ubuntu-motu08:22
avagantOk, right now. I have Firefox running AND xmms and both are making noise.08:22
mneptonlansing: type this without quotes "sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella"08:22
avagantSo how is it that that just happened?08:22
snoopsInwoD, give the live cd a go sometime.. OpenOffice is included with ubuntu, which can also be installed on windows..so if you want to try the office suite which comes with ubuntu on windows, you can do..to get a feel for it08:22
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mneptonlansing: supply your password when asked08:22
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InwoDthanks08:22
niruIs that in same freenode08:23
Flannelniru: yes08:23
avagantI swear use nicotine but, eh. Nicotine is win.08:23
k0rdanyone in here use ubuntu for programming?08:23
snoopsk0rd yep.08:23
lansingit says the followin pack have un met dependencies08:23
avagantThen again lately I've just been getting video game ost.08:23
mneptonavagant: then *you* walk him through creating an account. Gnutella requires no account. far, far simpler.08:23
k0rdsnoops, what are some good programs for debugging, etc.?08:23
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boinkhello all08:24
mneptonk0rd: gdb08:24
mneptonlansing: what packages?08:24
avagantmnepton: It's not hard, you just supply a random name and password, configure where you want your music to go you download and that's it.08:24
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snoopsk0rd, well..I've been using SPE for python, and glade for some gui work, as well as monodevelop08:24
avagantThen again I've been doing it for years.08:24
mneptonavagant: oh, you can just make credentials up? what's the point in that?08:24
k0rdmnepton, included or where can I find it?08:24
avagantI dunno.08:24
avagantFun?08:24
mneptonk0rd: /usr/bin/gdb08:25
mneptonk0rd: man gdb08:25
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lansingThe following packages have unmet dependencies:08:25
lansing  gtk-gnutella: Depends: libdbus-1-2 (>= 0.60) but it is not going to be installed08:25
lansingE: Broken packages08:25
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Geoffrey2ok, question remains...I have Firefox installed through the repositories...If I wanted to install Firefox 2rc2, can I do so without overwriting the existing version?08:25
k0rddoes gnutella have a apt-get?08:25
Xanterk0rd: apt-cache search gnutella ?08:25
Flannel!tell Geoffrey2 about firefox08:25
k0rdty08:26
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mneptonlansing: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libdbus-1-2 && sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella"08:26
puff!tell puff about upgrade08:26
lansingk08:26
snoopsGeoffrey2 I believe it will overwrite, unless you edit the install08:26
Geoffrey2Flannel, the website you're pointing me to isn't relevent08:27
harrismI have a rather simple question. How can I run a program through terminal when not being in the same directory? For example.. Say in terminal I am at Desktop and I want to run a program in /home/user  how can I do it? I know I can do ./file but just curious how to do this from outside the same directory08:27
FlannelGeoffrey2: yes it is08:27
puffI think I'm on hoary.  How would i check?08:27
bimberiharrism: /home/usr/file08:27
bimberi*user08:27
FlannelGeoffrey2: change the version numbers on that page, and it'll be the exact same.08:28
bimberior ../file (for that particular example)08:28
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wickedpuppypuff, cat /etc/issue or lsb_version -a08:29
harrismok that worked, thanks bimberi, but what do you mean with ../file ?08:29
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wickedpuppypuff, sorry its lsb_release -a08:29
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AyabaraIs write support for ntfs stable/secure. If not, will it ever be?08:29
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mneptonpuff: uname -a08:29
harrismoh i see, nevermind. ok thanks08:29
mneptonAyabara: it is not, and who knows.08:29
puffYup, hoary.08:29
bimberiharrism: .. refers to the parent directory.  so if you are in /home/usr/Desktop then .. refers to /home/user08:29
wickedpuppymnepton, how will that find out about the release ? curious08:30
Ayabaramnepton, straight to the point :-)08:30
puffOddly, uname -a doesn't tell me what version, though it does tell me which kernel.08:30
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mneptonwickedpuppy: kernel revision08:30
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wickedpuppymnepton, he wants to know the ubuntu version .. not kernel version ...08:30
puffOkay, using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgradeNotes08:30
snoopsAyabara there is a project which seems to have decent write support..I haven't tested it yet..don't trust it yet08:31
puffStep one, aptitude install ubuntu-desktop.08:31
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klerfaythi what is default samplerate of usb mouse in ubuntu dapper? is it same as in winxp [125Hz] ?08:31
mneptonwickedpuppy: the kernel revisions are not the same for all releases. if you tell me a kernel revision, i can tell you the release.08:31
Geoffrey2will edgey likely use a more recent linux kernel?08:32
Ayabarasnoops, I read a bit on the webpage, and they say it's still beta-ish08:32
wickedpuppymnepton, well .. sure you can do that but why would you ? since there are direct ways to find out about the release version ... i am not saying you are wrong there ...08:32
bimberi!info linux-386 edgy08:32
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ubotulinux-386: Complete Linux kernel on 386.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.17.10 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB08:32
mneptonAyabara: the best bet is to use the ext3 driver for XP, and make any shared space ext3. Windows can read/write ext3 better than Linux can r/w NTFS. the wonders of open source code.08:32
krautmoin08:33
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mneptonwickedpuppy: i just like the uname method because it tells me both release and current kernel.08:33
wickedpuppymnepton, ok ... :P08:33
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lansingthat just screwed up my computer08:34
puffHm, should I really apt-remove firefox?  Is it safe to assume that apt will leave ~/.mozilla alone?08:34
YoMerosome one know where i can find info of how recompile un package? i mean i need include other options of compilation, but i don't know where began08:34
Geoffrey2oh, can XP read/write ext3 by default, or do you need to add something?08:34
Ayabaramnepton: I've tried that solution and it worked quite well. Only problem got was with some of my nordic files ( an o with a line through it ++ :-) )08:34
mneptonAyabara: ext3 supports Unicode.08:34
mneptonGeoffrey2: there is an add-on driver08:34
AyabaraGeoffrey2, need to install a file system driver08:34
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YoMerowww.fs-driver.org/08:35
snoopspuff if you did apt-remove --purge firefox then you'd be removing your ~/.mozilla I believe08:35
puffsnoops: Okay.. any other advice before I dist-upgrade?08:35
lansingavagant my dpkg is messed up can u help08:35
YoMerowww.fs-driver.org/ Ext2 IFS For Windows08:35
YoMeroIt installs a pure kernel mode file system driver Ext2fs.sys, which actually extends the Windows NT/2000/XP operating system to include the Ext2 file system08:35
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snoopsthat ext2 driver supports large file system that ext3 allows..but minus the journalling of ext3..still completely usable in windows08:36
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lansingavagant?08:38
AscWhat's the name of the program that lets you select what program is used to open a type of file?08:39
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Asc(I'm trying to change the default file manager in GNOME - so when you double-click a folder, it will open it in a program other than nautilus.  Anybody know how to do this?)08:40
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Arcainusok, i have installed ubuntu with swap on sda2, but when i do a free...it says swap 008:42
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Arcainusand also on bootup it says08:42
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lansingE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.08:42
lansing this is the error i get08:42
Arcainusswapon: /dev/sda2: Invalid argument08:42
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Noah0504What is a good Linux BitTorrent client that supports RSS feeds.  I'm looking for something kind of light.08:42
k0rdI think im going to bed08:43
mneptonlansing: you're runnign all this stuff with sudo, right? and you're just using apt-get?08:43
k0rdnight guys08:43
SquatchWhat's the utility for formatting a new HDD?08:43
lansingya08:43
mneptonSquatch: gparted08:43
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lansingcan u help me fix it08:43
SquatchCool, thanks mnepton!08:43
FlannelNoah0504: why would you want a BTclient that supports rss feeds? why not a rss reader and a btclient?08:43
mneptonlansing: it sounds like your installation got seriously messed. apt-get should "just work" for something like gtk-gnutella.08:44
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Flannellansing: pastebin your sources.list (or have you already?)08:44
mneptonlansing: and, sadly, my time is constrained by people who have paid for Ubuntu support. :/08:44
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Noah0504Flannel: Well, I suppose I can go that route.  I was just looking to combine the two.  Revision3 now offers Torrent feeds.  I thought it would make it easier to download the shows I watch on a regular basis.08:44
lansingwell thats not fare08:45
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lansingflannel can u help08:45
snoopsFlannel many bit torrent sites have rss feeds..and you can put filters in to automatically get any torrents matching a certain name08:45
snoopsazureus has such a feature, as well as utorrent08:45
Stormx2can I defrag a FAT partition from ubuntu?08:45
FlannelNoah0504: shrug.  I'm not a torrent person.  Anyway, if you want lightweight torrent clients, there are some built in, with a simple gtk frontend, a curses frontend, and a headless one, at that.  btdownload[tab] [tab]  will show you those options08:45
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Noah0504Flannel: Thanks.08:46
fuffalo_what do i need to add to my sources.list in order to beable t run apt-get install mythtv?08:46
Flannelfuffalo_: multiverse08:46
mneptonNoah0504: if you have good LAMP-fu try Torrentflux (which supports RSS and is pretty light)08:46
Flannel!tell fuffalo_ about multiverse08:46
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grndslmanybody know how i can tell which device the sound is going to??  /dev/dsp, /dev/audio??08:46
fuffalo_when i run it, with multiverse, it says ...Package mythtv is not available, but is referred to by another package.08:47
fuffalo_....08:47
Noah0504mnepton: I might give that a look.  Thanks.08:47
fuffalo_oops sorry for extra dots hehe08:47
Flannelfuffalo_: pastebin your sources.list08:47
Stormx2Defragging a FAT partition from ubuntu, anyone? :)08:48
fuffalo_http://pastebin.ca/19731308:48
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Wass|hi, I would like to know how to remove each 13 chars from each files inside a folder08:49
Wass|anyone can help?08:49
Flannelfuffalo_: you need multiverse on the normal dapper lines too, not just the backports08:49
grndslmStormx2, no need for defrag in linux...therefore, i don't think it exists08:49
Stormx2grndslm: For FAT there is.08:49
fuffalo_flannel, do i just type multiverese at the end of lines 16/17?08:49
grndslmyea...but linux users don't use fat08:49
Stormx2grndslm: I'm a linux user and I use FAT08:50
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grndslmseems silly08:50
Stormx2grndslm: Not as my /, obviously.08:50
Wass|my usbKey uses fat08:50
Wass|:p08:50
aardfoxhow do I edit xorg.conf?08:50
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aardfoxgedit opens a blank page08:50
Stormx2grndslm: Well I used it for my music. Linux and Windows can both read/write it08:50
FlannelStormx2: I'm sure there is.  defrag doesn't mention fat32 in it's desc, but oyu could try it08:50
Stormx2aardfox: Sure you're typing the location correctly?08:50
Wass|aardfox: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:50
FlannelWass|, aardfox, gksudo08:51
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grndslmaptitude install defrag08:51
snoopsStormx2 windows and linux can both read and write ext3..without the terrible file size limitation of fat08:51
bioticprohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fZ3FRuH41w&mode=related&search= <pro linux spot from TechTV08:51
mneptonStormx2: use ext3 and install the ext2/3 driver for Windows08:51
mneptonStormx2: your data will thank you for putting it on a modern, fault tolerant FS ;)08:51
Stormx2I could08:51
grndslmext3!!!!08:51
Stormx2Alright08:51
aardfoxOh, thanks. I was just doing sudo gedit xorg.conf08:51
grndslmheh...08:51
mneptonhttp://fs-driver.org/08:51
grndslmsoo...how can i tell which device my sound is going to??08:52
Wass|aardfox: np08:52
Stormx2If I can, I will! But how would I go about it? I mean 80gb of it and the disk is pretty much full, I have no where to put it while I convert the partition to ext3...08:52
Noah0504Flannel: As far as RSS readers go, which to you suggest?08:52
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Sp4rKYhi08:52
FlannelNoah0504: no idea08:52
mneptongrndslm: alsamixer08:52
Noah0504Flannel: haha, Thanks anyway.08:52
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mneptonNoah0504: try the Sage plugin for Firefox08:53
Sp4rKYi'm trying to use unsquahfs but i get this error : "zlib::uncompress failed, unknown error -3"08:53
grndslmhmm....it tells me my card and chip...but not the location under /dev08:53
avagantHow do you find out what version of alsa you have?08:53
fuffalo_flannel, is this better: http://pastebin.ca/19731908:53
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Flannelfuffalo_: looks to be, yes.08:54
fuffalo_i still get the same error :(08:54
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aardfoxwhich "Device" section should I copy/paste http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=150854 into?08:54
fuffalo_here's the error: http://pastebin.ca/19732308:55
grndslmis /dev/pcm the default output for sound for onboard intel chips?  anybody know?08:56
puffOkay, just kicked off dist-upgrade, from hoary to breezy... how long should I expect this to run over a cable modem?08:56
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Flannelpuff: at least 650mb to download08:57
BHSPitLappypuff, are you serious08:57
upgrdmanwhat do i need to install so I can use nvidias gfx drivers?08:57
grndslmi'm trying to get mp3blaster to work but it's saying "failed to open device"08:57
Flannel!tell upgrdman about nvidia08:57
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puffBHSPitLappy: Come again?08:57
BHSPitLappyupgrdman, nvidia-glx ?08:57
upgrdmanFlannel: thx08:58
SquatchWhy is it that I have NEVER gotten a single response on the #kubuntu channel, and every time I have a question, someone answers within seconds of asking on this channel and it may not be the right answer but it always leads me to it after a bit of googling...08:58
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grndslmbecause kde sucks08:59
cpk2lol08:59
grndslmheh...j/k08:59
Squatchlol08:59
grndslmit's just "different"08:59
fuffalo_flannel, adding the multiverse didn't get rid of the error http://pastebin.ca/197323 <-- am i using the wrong pacakge name or something?08:59
cpk2Squatch: you asked when people were arguing, i just now read back and saw your question08:59
Stormx2Who's clever idea was it to the ruin the MountingWindowsPartitions page? I have no idea how to add stuff to fstab now XD08:59
SquatchWell, it's what I chose at random a couple years ago when I was fiddling with Slackware, so I'm a bit more familiar with it than Gnome...08:59
grndslmgnome's all about design and looks....which i'm into...usability is incredible compared to any window manager or OS i've seen09:00
cpk2Squatch: did you want a gui to format?09:00
Flannelfuffalo_: you've done a sudo apt-get update09:00
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Squatchcpk2: I guess I don't really understand the question...  I'm using KDE because I have some experience with it, albeit a VERY small amount.09:01
fuffalo_flannel, yes i have (just did it again)09:01
Flannelfuffalo_: apt-cache search mythtv has nothing?09:01
Squatchcpk2: Also, there seems to be a lot more apps readily available for it over Gnome...  Also, wanted to use KDev.09:01
fuffalo_oooh and now it works09:01
snoopsgrndslm, heh, I'd disagree with you about gnome's usability.. but, hey, it's all personal opinion anyway09:01
cpk2Squatch: you said you wanted to format a new hdd, were you looking for a gui for that?09:01
fuffalo_thank you flannel09:01
grndslmsnoops...very true09:02
Squatchcpk2: Oh, yeah, I did a bit of searching and found qtparted.09:02
Squatchcpk2: All after doing a quick google for "gparted KDE" heh.09:02
grndslmi heart google09:02
cpk2Squatch: you can use cfdisk to make partitions as well09:02
BeexI don't suppose anybody could help me re-write my session scripts for an XFCE edgy install, could they?09:02
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Squatch cpk2: That the standard Linux Command Line partition tool?09:03
FlannelBeex: #ubuntu+1 is edgy support, and... I don't know if there's a #xubuntu+1... heh, try #ubuntu+1 though09:03
BeexFlannel: thanks!09:03
cpk2Squatch: i think so?09:04
cpk2Squatch: I used it but I was making the disk all one partition09:04
cpk2its pretty easy to use for that purpose09:04
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Squatch cpk2: Well, I just got a couple of 400GB SATA drives, wanting to partition them into one 10GB partition for Windows, and the rest I want formated in ext3 for data storage since I can get a driver for windows that can read that.09:05
Squatchcpk2: Just trying to get M$ and Linux to coexist peacefully >_<09:05
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grndslmok...lemme try again:  anybody use mp3blaster or another ncurses based audio player??09:06
Flannelgrndslm: mpd is a common one09:06
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grndslmk, will check it out09:06
grndslmi was really fond of mp3blaster tho, for some reason09:06
noiesmocrimsun, you here09:06
fuffalo_how do i run something as a different user (not root tho)09:07
grndslmsu [name] 09:07
cpk2Squatch: well you can try cfdisk /dev/sd* or check out qtparted, if i remember correctly gtparted didnt like my sata drives09:07
cpk2Squatch: cfdisk *only* partitions, then you will need to format in ext3 or whatever, I forget the command for that though =P09:08
Squatchcpk2: I'm looking at it in cfdisk and it says it's only 400GB, should be 800GB, do I need to install some SATA drivers or something?09:08
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CaptainMorganhow do I change the background-color of an X related bash terminal? Im looking for the specific file, not the gui related path....09:08
FlannelCaptainMorgan: it'll be in your home dir ;)  .gnome-terminal maybe?09:09
cpk2Squatch: they are both on sda?09:09
Squatchcpk2: Yeah, in qtparted, I'm seeing sdb & sdc =/09:09
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CaptainMorganFlannel, hmm.. I don't have Gnome listed.. Im running an emulator09:09
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cpk2Squatch: why wouldnt it show them seperate when they really are seperate?09:09
Squatchcpk2: Thought it was set up as RAID0...09:10
FlannelCaptainMorgan: well, try changing a file through the GUI, and then see what file was created/modified ;)09:10
cpk2Squatch: maybe it isnt? =O09:10
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CaptainMorganFlannel, there is no gui, it's an emulator no Gnome or nautilus explorer etc..09:10
cpk2Squatch: I really dont know, I've never had to do much complicated stuff with my data storage09:10
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GlobalHavokhow can i delete a directory in gconf?09:10
Squatchcpk2: Yeah, and I always seem to find the complicated, retarded setups, they seem to search me out =(.09:10
Squatchcpk2: Well, in my BIOS and boot-up utility they're set up as RAID.09:11
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Beexanybody know where to find .xinitrc in xfce?09:12
cpk2Squatch: i really dont know anything about raid =(09:12
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Squatchcpk2: Heh, no worries =).  I'll figure it out over the next friggin YEAR or so lol.09:12
Flannel!tell Squatch about raid09:12
SquatchFlannel: Thanks!09:12
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CaptainMorganFlannel, you aware of any .conf file maybe?09:13
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FlannelCaptainMorgan: nope, sorry.  Don't have a GUI09:14
CaptainMorganis a terminal a gui?09:14
GlobalHavokNo one knows how to delete a directory with gconftool?  :(09:14
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FlannelCaptainMorgan: no, it's a CLI09:15
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CaptainMorganif a terminal is not a gui, then I don't have a gui either, i simply want to change the back color of the terminal from frightening white to calm black09:15
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lansinghey09:16
grndslmflannel, you actually use mpd?09:16
Flannelgrndslm: no, I ssh in, no sound ;)09:16
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lansinghey flannel wats that site to fix my source list09:16
GlobalHavoki use mpd, its great.09:16
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kandalaHi all, anyone here using Ubuntu on AMD turion 64bit Duo core m/c?09:16
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grndslmhmm....anybody here use mpd?09:16
Flannellansing: you mean re-generate a new one?09:16
Flannel!source-o-matic09:16
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic09:16
n0rkhello, how change in ubuntu default language ? I have fr version of ubuntu, and i need to change to english09:16
n0rkfr = french09:17
lansingyah cus mines messed09:17
GlobalHavokgrndslm: i do09:17
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grndslmumm...why doesn't anything happen when i try to --create-db?09:17
shriphani_n0rk, no xperience here maybe you install lasnguage pack en-us09:17
charlieWhat is the best way to get support for streaming video in firefox (wmv files)? I haven't had any luck with any media players.09:17
shriphani_charlie, your media player ?09:17
lansingthat site that avagant gave me09:18
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charlieI don't care which, I suppose Totem is fine.09:18
charlieI install the multimedia codecs and the firefox plugin but no luck09:18
GlobalHavokdid you set your directory in the conf file?09:18
shriphani_charlie, diddou download the m3u file or are you playing stuff from the website ?09:18
kandalaanyone here using Ubuntu on AMD m/c without any problems?09:19
charlieshriphani_: It's a wmv file and I can play it find if I download it first, but it won't stream in the browser.09:19
grndslmyup...09:19
grndslmit was becuz i wasn't running it as root...but now it says it couldn't stat my music's home dir09:19
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shriphani_umm charlie had s probs with totem here.... so i got vlc and then got the firefox plugin for it.... then it worked fine09:20
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mneptoncharlie: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer09:20
charlieshriphani_: ok, have you had any luck with dvd playback?09:20
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charliemnepton: mplayer won't work either.09:20
shriphaniumm charlie yes09:20
KEA0463hello09:20
mneptoncharlie: then those WMV files are using a newer MS codec09:21
shriphanii used the restricted formats page09:21
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KEA0463my question is how do i make open office compatible with MS Word?09:21
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shriphaniKEA0463, it already is09:21
charlieshriphani: I installed the libdvdread3 package and ran that install-css script, but it still won't work. Something about an encrypted dvd.09:21
KEA0463really09:21
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shriphani!restriced09:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about restriced - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:21
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shriphani!restricted09:21
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:21
sykes^When I turned off my computer yesterday the sound worked, I could listen to music and stuff, but now the sound is gone :/09:22
charlieshriphani: I've checked the page, as well as the help section that comes with ubuntu09:22
shriphanicharlie, that page has stuff about enccpted dvd playback09:22
sykes^!nosound09:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nosound - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:22
charlieI will check again, thanks.09:22
ozzloyis there a way to install java 1.5 sdk easily on ubuntu?09:22
sykes^!sound09:22
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems09:22
Flannel!tell ozzloy about java09:22
KEA0463so i can open open office with word?09:22
shriphaniumm charlie do you have libdvdread.css09:22
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charlieshriphani: is that a package?09:22
mneptonKEA0463: no, but from within OO.org save as a format Word understand (.doc or .rtf or something)09:22
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sykes^Anyone know why I have no sound? It worked yesterday09:23
shriphaniwait lemme see if i got the right name09:23
KEA0463so i can save my apps as .doc and ill be good right?09:23
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mneptonKEA0463: your apps?09:24
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charlieDo you guys recommend enabling multiverse/universe for each section? (Updates, Backports, Security, ect...)?09:24
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shriphaniYou can enable playback of encrypted DVDs with MPlayer,  xine and Totem-xine by installing libdvdcss2. Note that Totem-gstreamer can only play a DVD automatically when it is inserted into the DVD drive, but cannot navigate the DVD nor play it by selecting Movie -> Play Disc 'DVD Name' or otherwise.09:24
KEA0463papers i mean09:24
ozzloyFlannel: that seems to be java 1.4 sdk09:24
MikeHawkI've totally screwed up my xfce... how can I reset my default settings assoicated with it?09:24
sykes^Anyone?09:24
lansinghelp me plz09:24
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mneptonKEA0463: yes.09:24
KEA0463ok thank you09:24
shriphanicharlie_, that page has all the stuff ya need about encrypted dvd09:24
charlie_shriphani: Thank you, I will try it again.09:24
Sp4rKYi'm trying to use unsquahfs but i get this error : "zlib::uncompress failed, unknown error -3", anyone can help me ?09:25
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kandalaI am running ubuntu on my AMD laptop. The machine hangs suddenly and have to restart (using the power button). Anyone here faced this?09:25
Wass|ur amd becomes to hot09:25
Wass|:p09:25
KEA0463i got a pcg-k15 sony vaio laptop09:26
shriphanikandala, with kde i do have a few such probs but i switched to fluxbox and the probs disappeared09:26
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KEA0463with ubuntu on it no problems09:26
ozzloyi'm looking for a javac with generics, sun-java5-bin is the runtime09:26
charlie_Do you guys enabled the back ports repository?09:26
sykes^Does someone have time to help me?09:27
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shriphanicharlie_, yup i do09:27
kandalashriphani: ok! Can you point me to the page from where I can install fluxbox?09:27
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Flannelozzloy: no, you want the sun stuff, which is 1.5, not the blackdown stuff, and the jdk is further down the page09:27
Flannel!tell kandala about fluxbox09:27
charlie_shriphani: What is it used for?09:27
shriphanicharlie_, bleeding edge packages i think09:27
shriphani!backports09:27
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports09:27
mattiMorning.09:27
shriphaniyups09:27
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kandalashriphani: Thanks :-)09:27
charlie_shriphani: thanks09:27
sykes^I got no sound today, but it worked yesterday. Help!09:28
shriphaninp09:28
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shriphanisykes^, umm can you turn on alsamixer for me09:28
charlie_shriphani: do you enabled universe/multiverse for source packages for all of them?09:28
shriphanicharlie_, yups09:28
POVaddctMikeHawk: mkdir ~/tmp ; mv ~/.cache ~/.config ~/tmp      then log out09:28
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sykes^shriphani: I'm a newbie, so I have no idea how to do that :P09:28
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shriphanisykes^, double click on the Volume icon09:29
sykes^shriphani: Lol ok09:29
shriphani:)09:29
sykes^shriphani: Then?09:29
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shriphaniwait09:29
shriphanicheck the device09:29
lansinghey how do i fix my source list09:29
shriphanii think you click File09:29
shriphanilansing, source-o-matic09:29
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shriphani!sound > shriphani09:30
ozzloyFlannel: oh cool thankd09:30
lansingi dont know how to use that09:30
SquatchSo, I need my kernel source, and I'm looking in Adept, I've got a few different packages and I'm unsure of which to install.  kernel-source-2.4.27, linux-source, or linux-source-2.6.15.09:30
ozzloyFlannel: thanks09:30
shriphanigah09:30
lansingiam new to ubuntu09:30
SquatchOr something new entirely...09:30
shriphani!tell lansing about easysource09:30
mneptonSquatch: linux-source09:30
Squatchmnepton: Cool, ty.09:30
shriphani!tell sykes^ about sound09:31
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shriphanisykes^, if what the bot says doesnt work then ask again09:31
sykes^shriphani: Will do, thanks09:31
lansinghow do i open mysource list09:31
shriphanilansing, open for editing ?09:32
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lansingyah n to look at it09:32
shriphanilansing, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list09:32
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sykes^shriphani: Funny thing is that the sound worked yesterday, but not now09:33
shriphanisykes^, happens09:33
shriphanii had the same probs a week ago09:33
fickquestion, is it possible to install ubantu 5.1 in vmware, and reboot to have it detect hardware.09:33
shriphanii sorta fired up alsamixer unmuted everything and it worked09:33
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shriphaniwhoa rms is old09:34
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ficki tried switching to knoppix 5. using bcm43xx with fwcutter, and i now i cant get it to remove bcm43xx , i have tried blacklisting using rmmod and modprobe -r , and bcm43xx.ko is still there when i do a grep -g bcm43xx | lsmod09:35
mneptonfick: why 5.10?09:35
fickits the only distrubution that seems to work with my wireless card.....the bcm431809:35
mneptonbut why the ancient version?09:35
sykes^shriphani: Nope, cant get it to work with that guide. But I'm a totaly newbie on linux09:35
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ficknot even knoppix 5.01 with its 2.6.17 kernel09:36
mneptonfick: no kernel will support it until Broadcomm opens the drivers09:36
sykes^shriphani: I'll try to reboot once, might help09:36
shriphanisykes^, umm you have alsmixer on i suppose09:36
sykes^shriphani: Yeah09:36
shriphaniunmute erything there09:36
cafuegomnepton: Uh, no.09:36
shriphanieverything ^09:36
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sykes^shriphani: Nothing is muted09:36
fickmnepton: drapper does not work at all with my wireless card and i have been trying to use ndiswrapper with knoppix with no luck at all09:36
sykes^shriphani: Gonna reboot, brb09:37
shriphaniumm09:37
fickin fact everything was fine until i let 5.1 upgrade itself to drapper09:37
fickwith 5.1 i simply borrowed a prism2 card, downloaded ndiswrapper-utils, loaded the bcm4318 windows dirvers using -i and -m and modprobe ndiswrapper, then one run of dhclient and we were good to go09:38
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mneptonfick: you'll have more problems on an old release than you will configuring Dapper to use the card09:38
mneptonfick: or, you could just get a cheap card supported by MadWiFi09:39
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fickwith drapper i just get errors like invaild something when i modprobe ndiswrapper09:39
cafuegofick: 6.10 can do the same; you just need to make sure you blacklist the driver properly. Alternatively, a lot of people use bcm43xx just fine with the latest firmware files.09:39
fickor later it returned the ndiswrapper.ko did not exist09:39
ozzloyi'm getting this error, and google doesn't help:  http://xrl.us/r7a5 (Link to rafb.net)09:39
ficki did blacklist bcm43xx in modprobe.d09:39
POVaddctcafuego: do all bcm43xx cards run with your packaged firmware or only some selected ones?09:39
ozzloyhow do i fix this? ^09:40
cafuegoPOVaddct: All 4306 ones, and some 4318 ones - though I can see rhyme nor reason as to why some work and some don't.09:40
POVaddctcafuego: thats the problem. f**k broadcom for not releasing any specs...09:41
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cafuegoPOVaddct: Broadcom claim they're not allowed to.09:41
kidbuntuhow do i install new winamp skins through the terminal09:41
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mneptonfick: oooo ... Tukwila?09:42
ozzloywell i'm off to bed, but thanks anyways Flannel09:42
POVaddctcafuego: i think thats a lame excuse from them. ralink released theirs, so why should they be allowed and broadcom not?09:42
cafuegoPOVaddct: Dunno, I think I read at some stage the us govt. told them they were not permitted to release specs.09:43
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mneptoncafuego: that's BS09:43
Arcainushow do i get rid of raid on my box?09:43
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mneptoncafuego: *tons* of 802.11x chipset fabricators release specs for their chipsets. none of them have had their doors kicked in.09:44
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ozzloyactually, i just tried "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk" and it seems to be working09:44
LilandraHi09:45
ozzloyeven though it looks like the repository is not added09:45
ozzloyhi Lilandra09:45
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Lilandrahow do i find out if my linux comes with a driver?09:45
POVaddctcafuego, mnepton: anyway, it's good to have a working solution besides ndiswrapper for at least some bcm43xx-types09:45
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cafuegothe latest driver in edgy now even reads back link strength status to nm-applet, so there is progress.09:46
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deadcoderdamn laptop hibernated09:46
deadcoderlow power09:46
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POVaddctcafuego: personally, i stick to rt2570 and madwifi supported cards09:46
cafuegoThat's not an option on iBooks.09:47
cafuegoSo I'm quite happy the 4306 works.09:47
Lilandrawhat's not an option on iBooks?09:47
POVaddctcafuego: the rt2570 is (its usb)09:47
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Lilandrai'm lost...I don't know how to make things hibernate (but I haven't searched yet so I will when I'm ready to figure that out)09:47
cafuegoHmmyeah, easy to break stuff off; not my favourite09:48
POVaddctLilandra: the madwifi driver is partly closed source. and that binary part is not compiled for ppc i guess09:48
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cafuegomaybe it is, but I'm not much of a fan of working on the move with stuff sticking out of the laptop09:49
Lilandraoh! wireless09:49
LilandraI have my wireless working on my powerbook but I haven't yet figured out the trackpad09:49
POVaddctLilandra: yes, we are talking about wireless driver issues. (endless story)09:49
shriphanii feel if its ppc its gotta be osx for networking09:50
LilandraWhat are the different drivers running around? How is it that some work and some don't?09:50
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shriphanilike instant connection to any wireless connection nearby09:50
deadcoderit seems all this bloody bcm43xx thing seems to have acheived for bcm4318 owners is make life a lot harder.....at the end of the day broadcom is to blame for kissing ms arse09:51
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POVaddctLilandra: different hardware needs different drivers. or are you talking about different drivers for the same hardware?09:51
mneptonPCMCIA cards with fully supported chipsets are cheap and plentiful.09:51
LilandraWell, are all the airport extreme cards not the same hardware?09:52
Lilandraor they're different and it's tricky?09:52
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deadcoderwell, since my headphone port is dead in my laptop that leaves me choosing between puting a sound card or a network card in my pc card slot09:52
shriphaniumm isnt it like people use firmware off windows to run broadcom cards ?09:52
POVaddctLilandra: i think _most_ of the are broadcom chipsets, but i don't know for sure (i am not an apple guy)09:53
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shriphanii saw some post on ubuntu forums09:53
Lilandraoh ok09:53
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shriphanimnepton, i think you can get firmware off Ex-Pee and use  with ubuntu09:54
deadcoderyeah i seen tons of posts claming that so and so got their bcm4318 card to work using these directions on both ubuntu 6 and knoppix 5 and even with a fresh install they dont work09:54
deadcodercould be something to do with bloody rmmod and modprobe -r not removing the frigging bcm43xx module like i asked it to09:54
lansingineed help ive lost all my sources09:55
deadcoderand thats with blacklisting09:55
Lilandrahow do i know what card you have? is bcm43xx not bcm4318?09:55
Lilandrai thought the x was a place holder :(09:56
POVaddctLilandra: lspci09:57
lansingi need that site again that source o matic09:57
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deadcoderwell yeah bcm43xx is bcm4318 but bcm43xx only really works right away with bcm430609:57
samuelHi09:57
deadcoderfrom what i have read09:57
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Lilandraoh! i get it. sorry for being slow...i have 430609:57
samuelHow do you make ubuntu boot so it only boots to the login prompt without starting X server etc.... so then I can manually start X?09:57
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deadcoderi would imagine it would have something to do with getting it to only start up with a runlevel of 209:58
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samuelHow do you make ubuntu boot so it only boots to the login prompt without starting X server etc.... so then I can manually start X?09:59
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lansinghey avagant can u help10:01
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lansingive lost my source list10:01
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lansingits blank how do i recreate it10:01
chamohello10:01
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lansingdo i have to reinstall ubuntu10:01
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oskude!easysource > lansing10:02
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AscAnybody know how to change gnome's default file manager?10:02
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lansingthanx oskude10:02
Jaak_How do put music on my ipod?10:02
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mooxl10:03
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Lilandragot to go...laterz! :)10:03
mooxJaak_ : do you know "listen" the software ?10:03
lansinghow do i do this10:04
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truiuJaak_: i have never tested ist, but you might try http://www.gtkpod.org10:05
samuelHow do you add a password to Grub?10:05
shriphaniJaak_, gtkpod is good10:05
shriphanilansing, you there ?10:05
BHSPitLappyJaak_, have you updated your iPod's firmware in the past month or two?10:05
lansingya10:05
BHSPitLappy(using iTunes 7)10:05
shriphaniok go to the source-o-matic website10:06
Jaak_moox, well, i would like to know wich one out of 3 on wiki.ubu is the best Banshe, amarok, gtkpod, and why doesn;t rythmbox have a feature to put music on my pod...10:06
lansingiam there10:06
shriphaninot are you running breezy dapper or hoary ?10:06
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Jaak_dunno about the firmware...10:06
lansingnot sure10:06
BHSPitLappyJaak_, cause rhythmbox sucks?10:06
Jaak_BHS, wich one is better?10:06
lansinghow do i check10:06
shriphanilansing, did you order the cds ?10:06
mooxI'm using "listen" for sync my ipod. It is a great software but still in development.10:07
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lansingno i got it from a friend10:07
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BHSPitLappyJaak_, I like banshee, but I've never used it for my iPod... I actually have to use iTunes 7 just because it's less hassle for videos, etc10:07
Jaak_listen, oh ok, that's a program, didn't understand at first.10:07
shriphanilansing, what does the cd cover say ?10:07
kidbuntuhow do i install new skins for xmms through terminal?10:07
lansinghes got the origanal10:07
shriphaniBHSPitLappy, i use rockbox a firmware you put on the ipod10:07
lansingi have a copy10:07
kidbuntuexample i like the debian white skin like before10:08
shriphanilansing, umm your cover10:08
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shriphaniwhat does the cover say10:08
SquatchSo, in Windows, I have 2 drives seen in Raid, but cfdisk and qtpart both see seperately mounted HDDs...  Any suggestions?  (And from that HOWTO that ubotu suggests, I'm stuck there too as my /dev/mapper/ directory has only "control" in it so I'm stuck with that one.)10:08
BHSPitLappyshriphani, I use rockbox and iPL sometimes.10:08
shriphaniahh10:08
AscHow might I tell what program is accessing a device and keeping it from unmounting?  Is there a way to force unmount?10:08
BHSPitLappyshriphani, but not as my primary interface.10:08
lansingit dont say ne thin10:08
shriphaniahh10:08
lansingi think iam runnin breezy10:08
shriphanilansing, anything like 6.0610:08
Jaak_BHS, do you use itunes 7 on windows or through wine?10:08
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avagantLike I said before, has anyone been able to get last.fm to work in alsa?10:09
fick...bloody windows just installed 6 secuirty updates ...have to reboot l8r10:09
ficku10:09
NickaNickamy ubuntu says "timestamp too far in the future" when trying to install dhcpd10:09
NickaNickawhat does it mean?10:10
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Tru7hI installed Ubuntu on my Laptop... the screen's divided into two and it's all flickery and deformed.10:10
Jaak_Who says Amarok and who says Banshe? Wich one is better?10:10
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Tru7hI can see my cursor in two locations at once.10:10
NickaNickait seems that our clock set to right time10:10
shriphanilansing, does it say anything like 5.10 or 6.06 on the cd ?10:10
Ascavagant, try using lastfm proxy, and opening it from a media player that uses ALSA.10:10
lansing5.10 i think10:10
lansingi dont know its a burnt copy10:10
shriphaniumm lansing how did ya install ubuntu ?10:10
avagantLast.fm freezes up on me whenever I use it.10:10
lansingby a burnt cd10:11
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shriphanilike did you click on "install" or face a text based install10:11
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Ascavagant: Are you using the lastfm client, or the lastfm proxy?10:11
avagantI'm not using either, but the last time I tried it just froze when I started it.10:12
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O2_I wonder what 3d game I could get freely ?  i mean small 3d game10:12
lansingall i did was pushed enter and it asked me my orgen and stuff like that10:12
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Ascavagant: Last time you tried to open a lastmf related program and it froze, was the program you tried to open the lastfm client or the lastfm proxy?10:12
Muffylansing, it asked for your organs?10:12
shriphanilansing, ok breezy10:12
POVaddctO2_: neverball10:12
avagantlast exit actually.10:13
lansingya10:13
O2_POVaddct: THANKS!10:13
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O2_POVaddct:  do I have to install some drivers such as OPENGL to play it ?10:14
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shriphanilansing, in the page select breezy and proceed10:14
tosikShould I use Ubuntu or Debian?10:15
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Popolonplop10:15
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POVaddctO2_: it does need opengl, so you need hardware 3d-accelerated gfx card10:15
Ascavagant: I give up.  Try this site.  There should be directions somewhere on it.  http://vidar.gimp.org/lastfmproxy/10:15
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kidbuntucan someone help me please. after installing OpenOffice.org. it wont run10:15
avagantI think it's an alsa thing, Asc.10:15
lansingit asks 2 letter code of country then it has check boxes10:15
shriphanilansing, forget the letter code10:16
shriphanijust check the boxes10:16
avagantI read somewhere they are having problems with alsa support or something.10:16
POVaddctO2_: sudo apt-get install neverball10:16
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lansingall of them10:16
avagantlansing, you still having problems?10:16
lansingyes10:16
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shriphaniumm the ones that say sources and packages10:16
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lansingive lost my source list10:16
avagantHuh.10:16
avagantHow'd you lose your source list?10:17
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jendaHello, can anyone shed some light on this dpkg error? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26272/10:17
lansingand i dont know how it happend10:17
jendaThe last line is what's important10:17
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twistedHi there - don't know how to get anything 3D working. Radeon 9800 Pro, Device Manager seems to have detected it ok.10:17
OptimusPrimeubuntu is debian derived, right?10:17
avagantDid you mess around with it at all? I'm just asking.10:17
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avagantAnybody know the correct way to burn an iso of ubuntu or that? Is it suppose to be a raw image, or what?10:18
lansingnope10:18
shriphaniavagant, use an app10:18
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admelHi how do i format a *corrupted* pendrive ?10:18
shriphanionce it is burnt you should have a few folders like boot etc10:18
oskudeavagant: the download page of ubuntu has info on that10:18
kidbuntucan someone help me please. after installing OpenOffice.org. it wont run10:18
avagantNo but I mean when I'm burning an image with a cdburner, is it suppose to be raw?10:18
avagantCause there's different options for that.10:18
capitalideaDo 32bit applications require 32bit XOrgs? (I'm on Dapper Drake x86_64)10:19
babwe2avagant use k3b should be in the repo10:19
avagantI've been burning them "raw" which apparently causes them to not work well after the first install?10:19
avagantNo no no, I know the cd burners, but when it asks me what form to burn the iso in, do i burn it as raw or tao or whatever?10:19
capitalideatao.10:20
tosikOptimusPrime: Yes it is I just have problems running my wireless card with Ubuntu and was wondering if using Debian would solve my isues10:20
lansingk wat do i do after i click get sources10:20
avagantHmm.10:20
twistedAny 3D app shows a blank screen, and crashes the comp, requiring a reset10:20
OptimusPrimecool. why is debian so backward compared to ubuntu, though?10:20
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oskudeavagant: afaik, that doesnt consern iso, but the method how to burn... you gotta check what your burner supports...10:20
avagantThe cd's stop working right after the 1st install.10:21
capitalideaavagant: there is also dao, but you probably don't need to know about that10:21
avagantI've been burning them under raw.10:21
Nintii|2I need some help...10:21
oskudeavagant: did you do the "check cd" option on the ubuntu boot cd ? to see that the burned cd is really ok ?10:21
avagantThe cd's work fine.10:21
tosikOptimusPrime: what do you mean by backwards?10:21
avagantUntil I install more than once.10:21
oskudeavagant: so you did "check cd" ?10:22
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avagantAnd then it takes like 3 hours to install. Haha10:22
Nintii|2it seems as though installing Ubuntu has messed up my partition table..10:22
capitalideaavagant: that's really odd10:22
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Nintii|2and now I can't get back into Windows XP at all10:22
avagantMaybe it's my disks.10:22
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avagantdiscs.10:22
keezanyone can give me an editor or a pico wget ?10:22
Nintii|2because it is saying I only have 1 partition now10:22
capitalideaavagant: it doesn't make sense at all, there is a foreign agent at work here...10:22
capitalideaSEA SERPENTS!10:22
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avagant??10:23
capitalideaThat's five leeches, call me in the morning.10:23
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capitalideaWhat brand of CDR/W are you using?10:23
avagantHmmm.10:23
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voltzI have 2 ubuntu installs,one shows nautilus icon yet the other install doesnt show it or have it in any menu,I  used file search but dont know what Im looking for...is it .deb ?10:23
avagantMemorex.10:23
lansing??10:23
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Nintii|2would someone who knows a lot about ubuntu and it's messing up of partition tables PM me?10:23
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idefixis there a way to tell if a program/process has stopped responding? it isn't in the top-list, so..10:24
capitalideaodd indeed, avagant. see if the CDs are readable in windows10:24
OptimusPrimetosik, not backwards, i meant how they are with not want to jump on upgrades etc10:24
keezanyone can help me please ? i need a wget pico please10:24
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avagantI'm thinking I might try another distro.10:25
oskudekeez: wget pico ? what do you mean ?10:25
capitalideaavagant: in the future though, definitely burn using tao10:25
keezoskude: yes, and editor10:25
Nintii|2after I installed Ubuntu, I can't access my NTFS partitions to get into windows10:25
keezoskude: an*10:25
O2_hello, I wonder if intel release drivers for its video card?10:25
oskudekeez: what ? i dont understand your question, sorry10:25
SquatchSo, I need some help.  I can't get my drives to be detected as raid, they keep on getting detected as two seperate drives, I'm trying to run them in RAID 0, and I'm running through a Sil 1334 SATA controller.10:25
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idefixwhat's the linux equivalent of the windows ctrl-alt-delete to see what your program is doing?10:25
avagantAre all the distros having the same problems with sounds?10:25
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capitalideasound problems?10:26
BHSPitLappyidefix, System>Administration>System Monitor10:26
keezoskude: well, here i can modify nothing with pico and i need a wget of pico.10:26
capitalideaI don't understand what you mean, I haven't had any sound problems.10:26
avagantNot more than oen thing being able to access the sound card yada yada.10:26
keezoskude: vi and nano doenst work too10:26
ZoffixHi, my X just froze but not completely, I can't switch desktops by clicking on the taskbar, what are the keys to switch desktops with a keyboard? I have update manager running on another desktop, and I don't want to kill X until it finishes, I'm using Xorg/GNOME10:26
keezoskude: i cant (damn keyboard)10:26
tosikOptimusPrime: Are you saying Debian is slower to respond to the newer release of software?10:26
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capitalideaavagant: ah, that has everything to do with the sound server you choose.10:26
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OptimusPrimewell, isnt it10:26
Ascidefix: The process monitor?  gnome-system-monitor will work, but I recommend running 'top' in a terminal.10:26
Nintii|2has anyone else here had any problems with unbuntu messing up their partition tables?10:26
idefixBHSPitLappy, hmm, I guess my installed ubuntu-version is too old10:26
oskudekeez: aha ... so you want to build pico from source or what ?10:27
keezoskude: yes10:27
avagantcapitalidea: If I run xmms and firefox with youtube it gets all insano and doesn't let me do much.10:27
tosikOptimusPrime: I have no idea10:27
avagantIt's been working as of late, but I have no idea why.10:27
oskudekeez: then google for picos website and download it...10:27
lansingavagant wat do i do about my sources10:27
avagantI tried the .asoundrc thing and sound didn't work at all so maybe I shouldn't even try and mess with it.10:27
capitalideaavagant: the most popular one is alsa, and everyone who uses alsa just installs oss compatibility so that oss pipes to alsa too. it also has to do with sharing alsa amongst apps and that's easy too10:27
keezoskude: i cant find nothing10:27
avagantWebforum!10:27
avagantcapitalidea: maybe a walk through?10:28
avaganthaha10:28
OptimusPrimetosik for example, debian gives you xfce 4.0 something via apt-get, whereas the current version of xfce is around 4.4 rc110:28
mart_hi, im running xgl. and i used to have a command to run 3d apps without using it10:28
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mart_somthing like nonxgl but i cannot remember what it was10:28
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lansingi need that site that u told me earlyer10:28
oskudekeez: hmm, pico looks like nano http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pico_text_editor so why not use nano ?10:28
mart_anyone know it?10:29
avagantlansing: ok hold on.10:29
Zoffixanybody have an idea? or is it impossible? I know I did it somehow on FC510:29
lansingwen u got time10:29
capitalideaavagant: no idea, but I'm sure it's mentioned on the forum. Dapper Drake is treating me well, I haven't noticed this problem. I use Gentoo on another box though and I remember having to set up my alsa configuration for this. It's trivial to pull off.10:29
keezoskude: it doenst work either nano or vi10:29
keezoskude: when i use vi i cannot save the file10:29
oskudekeez: then your system seems very broke10:29
oskudekeez: and what file are you trying to save ?10:30
capitalideaavagant: search with terms like "alsa sharing"10:30
avaganthttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18575810:30
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avagantlansing.10:30
keezoskude: for what do you want to know ? :P10:30
lansingk thanx10:30
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Nintii|2ok.. does anyone know... if I convert a ntfs partition to a linux-swap partition with GParted, will I be able to access those files?10:30
capitalideaDo 32bit applications require 32bit XOrgs? (I'm on Dapper Drake x86_64)10:30
avagantGentoo also takes 3 years to install :)10:30
oskudekeez: maybe your user doesnt have rights to edit that file ? (sudo?)10:30
keezoskude: if you can give me a wget of pico i'll be very greatfull10:30
avagantI don't know how you sat through that, I didn't even get halfway through.10:30
keezoskude: i am not on ubuntu10:30
capitalideaavagant: not an Athlon XP 2000 :-)10:31
tosikOptimusPrime: Thank you for the information I am still new to Linux and trying to figure out whcih way to go i.e. switch to Debian or continue with Ubuntu10:31
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avaganti guess not yah.10:31
voltzI found nautilus in /usr/bin with the search file option and can opent he program from there but how do I install it into a menu or to the panel10:31
oskudekeez: well, wikipedia says "Pico is a text editor for Unix computer systems, and is integrated with the Pine email client" so look for pine10:31
avagantI guess I should be thankful I have sound right now.10:31
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keezoskude: ok10:31
KenSentMeI'm talking to someone who says the command ifconfig isn't recognized by Ubuntu Breezy. Isn't that a standard command, that's installed by default?10:31
avagantGaim does play in the background occasionally while I have music set to alsa and youtube, but sometimes it gives me that error.10:31
mneptonpico is not included with Ubuntu. it has had a terrible security record and is not free.10:32
oskudekeez: tip, that wikipedia site has link to it...10:32
capitalideaavagant: If it weren't for some trouble with some libs on Gentoo's AMD64 and the fact that Ubuntu 'just works' I'd probably using Gentoo on this laptop. CBA setting up all the laptop hardware though.10:32
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mneptonnano > pico10:32
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oskudemnepton: he/she isnt even in ubuntu, so...10:32
avagantI wanna try another distro.10:32
avagantI've tried kubuntu and xubuntu, and ubuntu.10:32
mneptonedubuntu!10:33
capitalideaFedora has aiglx now, I think10:33
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keezoskude: i cant find anything10:33
avagantaiglx?10:33
jendaHello, can anyone shed some light on this dpkg error? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26272/10:33
jendaThe important part is E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)10:33
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avagantUm, reinstall?10:34
avagantJust kidding that sucks I know.10:34
capitalideaavagant: en.wikipedia.org/aiglx (i think)10:34
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mneptonjenda: looks like /etc/apt/sources,lst may have some funky entries10:35
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mneptonjenda: it looks like it's trying to access an LVM group fro repo information10:36
jendamnepton: ok, thx, will check that.10:36
mnepton*for10:36
jendahmm10:36
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capitalideaHOLY COW, Hans Reiser arrested for murder.10:36
jenda(it's not my PC, just a Czech guy)10:36
mneptoncapitalidea: really? finally?10:36
jendacapitalidea: you're kidding, right?10:36
capitalideaI am definitely not kidding. It's on the front of tuxmachines.org10:36
mneptoncapitalidea: "Resier has 100% atomic commits. You are either arrested, or you are not."10:36
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oskudekeez: :/ http://www.washington.edu/pine/10:37
MaKaTiGu1how do i enable my webcam in ubuntu10:37
mneptonkeez: why do you need pine?10:37
mnepton(or, why do you *htink* you need pine?)10:38
keezmnepton: to modify a .conf file ?10:38
mneptonkeez: any text editor can do that. you do not need pine.10:38
mneptonkeez: or pico. or anything else. just use nano or vi.10:38
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lansingwould these sources work for breezy10:38
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: with luck, just by plug-and-play... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport10:39
keezmnepton: -bash: pico: command not found10:39
keezmnepton: that's why i need a wget of pico10:39
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mneptonkeez: once again, most distros *do not ship pico*10:39
mneptonuse. nano.10:39
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MaKaTiGu1oskude: hi, how are you, im using ubuntu ryt now, thanks for the help10:40
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keezmnepton: -bash: nano: command not found10:40
keez:P10:40
keezmnepton: with vi works but i cant save the file10:40
wickedpuppywhy not?10:40
mart_hello again, i asked a question about playing opengl apps in XGL they dont seem to work amzingingly well10:40
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Muffykeez, type ":w"10:40
mart_i found a fix, in case someone gets asked again10:41
cafuegomart_: Correct10:41
mart_http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17663610:41
keezMuffy: what ?10:41
oskude!xgl > mart_10:41
kern_mallocmart_: yah they won't, XGL pretty much takes over dri and it uses software instead of direct... making opengl slow.  I suggest using AIGLX extensions with beryl + emerald10:41
mneptonkeez: that's not vi. it's permissions. no other editor is going to fix that problem.10:41
Muffykeez, didn't you say you don't know how to save in vi?10:41
keezMuffy: yea10:41
capitalideakern_malloc: What is beryl?10:41
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oskude!beryl10:42
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.10:42
mart_kern_malloc i'll look into it... im stil very very new10:42
kern_malloccapitalidea: a window manager forked from compiz10:42
capitalideaah10:42
Muffykeez, you have to type ":" then "w" then <enter>10:42
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capitalidea!emerald10:42
avagantWhat's another good linux distro?10:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about emerald - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:42
keezMuffy: ok, thanks anyway10:42
avagant!bam10:42
capitalideahm10:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:42
kern_malloccapitalidea: i can run beryl + emerald (the window decorator) without running XGL or AIGLX.. it just uses certain extensions in xorg and i still get direct DRI etc... it's much much faster and smoother10:42
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oskudeavagant: just debian ;) (please just google and make your own mind)10:43
Muffyavagant: fedora?10:43
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MaKaTiGu1oskude: i can't mount my 2 partition drive in ubuntu10:43
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avagantHmm.10:43
hAPPY_mAJAHow do I install a program in *.bin???10:43
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: if they are not in /etc/fstab you can only mount them as root (sudo)10:43
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capitalideakermitX_: I know aiglx takes care of the dri issue, which would mean suspend finally works, right?10:43
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hAPPY_mAJAHow do I install a program in *.bin??10:44
MaKaTiGu1they're in /temp10:44
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oskudeMaKaTiGu1: whats in /temp (seems you created that dir?)10:44
deep__=)10:44
MaKaTiGu1i don't know10:45
MaKaTiGu1maube10:45
wickedpuppyhAPPY_mAJA, chmod +x file.bin and ./file.bin10:45
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: /temp doesnt belong to "standard" ubuntu10:45
lansingwould dapper sources work for breezy10:45
MaKaTiGu1oskude: so how do i transfer it?10:45
cafuegolansing: nay10:45
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: transfer what to where ?10:45
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MaKaTiGu1oskude: the mount drive10:46
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lansingok iam gunna  reainstall the whole thing then i need help wit installin programs10:46
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: ok, first. are the partitions you want to mount listed in /etc/fstab ?10:46
lansingbefore i screw some thinup10:46
lansingso brb10:47
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: or ubotu suggests "Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks" but i never used that...10:47
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MaKaTiGu1oskude: permission denied while accessing /etc/fstab10:48
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wickedpuppyMaKaTiGu1, what was the command ?10:48
bsdirlyay!10:48
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: yes, that can be only edited with root rights, but you can read it "cat /etc/fstab"10:48
Lilandraoskude: why would one use cat instead of more or less to read? i'm just curious...i don't know10:49
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MaKaTiGu1oskude: can i paste the result here?10:49
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oskudeLilandra: cause that file is so small it will (propably) fit in the terminal window (And you can scroll that too)10:50
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oskudeMaKaTiGu1: please use pastebin for paste(like http://phpfi.com)10:50
Lilandraoskude: but any other reason? (i first learnt of more)10:50
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wickedpuppybtw less is more than more ...10:50
Lilandrawickedpuppy: that i know! :)10:50
oskudeLilandra: you can easily pipe cat10:51
OptimusPrimeew10:51
Lilandramore doesn't pipe?10:51
bsdirlcat <blah> | more10:51
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Lilandrabut why n ot more more <blah> ?10:51
wickedpuppycat pipes more than less which pipes less than more ... understand ?10:51
OptimusPrimeyou steal souls10:52
OptimusPrime:(10:52
oskudeLilandra: well, never done that, i wonder what "less /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver" would do...10:52
O2_well come wickedpuppy!!!10:52
MaKaTiGu1oskude: its there10:52
wickedpuppylol heya O2_ whats with the _ behind your nick ?10:52
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oskudeMaKaTiGu1: then you post the link here10:52
Lilandrai thought i piped more10:52
O2_wickedpuppy:  I don't know, too  : (10:53
MaKaTiGu1http://phpfi.com/16241310:53
wickedpuppyO2_, /nick O210:53
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oskudeMaKaTiGu1: ok, it seems the partitions you want to mount are not there ?10:53
O2: )10:53
Lilandraoskude: find drivers...10:53
Lilandraor something10:53
O2wickedpuppy:  well, u r the kindest friend here!10:54
MaKaTiGu1oskude:  how about the partition10:54
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MaKaTiGu1oskude:  how about the 2 partition10:54
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: you could try System -> Administration -> Disks it seems pretty self explaining10:54
wickedpuppyO2, there are others as well .. just that i am too free LOL10:54
bsdirlor df -h <partition>10:54
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: hda7 is the root "/" and hda8 is the swap10:54
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bsdirlor du10:54
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leggyhi...i have the following question: i can synchronize the profiles in firefox on systems with windows and ubuntu by using a single profile folder in a fat32 partition! Is it also possible using such a method to synchronize the user profiles of the opera browser?10:55
oskudeleggy: wouldnt that be a question to opera people ?10:55
OptimusPrimeleggy thats cool. thanks for the idea10:55
MaKaTiGu1oskude: when i am accessing the other drives, permission denied, why is that?10:56
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oskudeMaKaTiGu1: what driver ? where and how and with what ?10:56
deep__MaKaTiGu1, sudo?10:56
O2wickedpuppy:   :-)     I wonder how to see my laptop's cpu speed, do u know how?10:56
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: *drives10:56
wickedpuppyO2, cat /etc/cpuinfo10:56
MaKaTiGu1oskude: You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-hda1".10:56
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oskudeMaKaTiGu1: huh, whats that ? what gives that error ?10:57
cafuegowickedpuppy/O2: /proc/cpuinfi10:57
Lilandrawickedpuppy i don't have that10:57
cafuegos/i/o/10:57
leggyi found a wiki for firefox at ubuntuusers...so i thought that maybe someone has experiences in opera connecting to ubuntu here 8)10:57
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wickedpuppyoh oh10:57
wickedpuppypardon my mistake10:57
wickedpuppycafuego, thanks ... O2 its cat /proc/cpuinfo10:57
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wickedpuppymy apology to Lilandra too ...10:57
Lilandranp wickedpuppy10:58
MaKaTiGu1when i click the browse icon in disk manager, hda1 is the windows drive10:58
Lilandrabut cool! i never knew that10:58
cafuegoLilandra: Lots of fun stuff in /proc10:58
wickedpuppyhmms ... watching naruto isn't good for helping ... Lilandra try catting /proc/meminfo too ..10:58
Lilandrai should hang out here and read and learn from everybody's questions. maybe one day i'll know enough to pass it on10:58
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oskudeMaKaTiGu1: hmm, does your user have sudo rights ? did it ask for a password as you opened Disks Manager ?10:58
wickedpuppyLilandra, then there will be new version of ubuntu with new problems10:58
wickedpuppy:P10:58
Lilandrawell...yeah :)10:59
MaKaTiGu1oskude; nop10:59
Lilandrai mean i got to be dynamic10:59
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wickedpuppyLilandra, yup ...10:59
O2 Thanks, wickedpuppy & cafuego10:59
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Lilandrai think i want all my laptop issues fixed on dapper first before i go hardcore and edgy cuz i want to know if something's broke10:59
avagantI don't want edgy because I finally have my sound semi working and I'm scurred.10:59
Lilandranot just figure i never got it working in the first palce10:59
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: hmm, so it seems that user doesnt have sudo rights, do "sudo echo foobar" in terminal. if it doesnt print "foobar", you dont have sudo rights...10:59
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: can you login with the user that you created upon installation ?11:00
avagantWhohooo <---rights11:00
bsdirlhoary hated my sound on my PII, breezy hated my videocard, and Dapper kinda likes both of em11:00
O2wickedpuppy:  godness!!! my cpu speed is 598.651MHz!!!    its origin is 1.7GHz!! why???11:00
fuffaloi've got a geforce 5200 card that has svideo out, the svideo out kicks in when my computer is booting, but right when it gets to the login screen my tv goes black and I can't see anything - what do i have setup wrong11:00
wickedpuppyeh ah ...11:00
MaKaTiGu1oskude: it prints11:01
bsdirlexcept there's some drawing errors sometimes, otherwise I have DRI on my S3 savage card WEEE11:01
Lilandramine is 749....i think11:01
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: it prints "foobar" ? and asked for password before that ?11:01
avagantThat's what mine did!11:01
wickedpuppyO2, that i do not know .. mine is 2020 Mhz ... which is correct ...11:01
MaKaTiGu1oskude: yes11:01
avagant<---feels special.11:01
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bsdirlcpu MHz         : 1111.33611:01
bsdirl yay11:02
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: hmm, and youre usinf ubuntu dapper ? wihtout any 3rd party repos ?11:02
O2mine is laptop, pentium m 1.7GHz cpu.11:02
bsdirlmy friend has a Pentium M in his desktop11:02
Lilandrawait, what's clock?11:02
MaKaTiGu1oskude ubuntu 6.0611:02
avagantI learned there are better ways to sudo today.11:02
avagantsudo -s and sudo su11:02
bsdirlsudo -i!11:02
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O2wickedpuppy:  it will slow down for saving battry........... how could I control it?11:02
gliezlanyone using ubuntu livecd?11:02
ra21vihi, :) i m ravi11:03
avagantwhat is the difference between those anyways?11:03
bsdirlubuntu 6.06 doesn't install right on my comp, so I got xubuntu ^_^11:03
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: well, i cant help with Disks Manager as i never used it (but seems to work here) so i could only help on adding them to /etc/fstab manually...11:03
wickedpuppyO2, that will be ... acpi problem i think ... sorry dude .. i havn't used linux on laptop for years ...11:03
ra21vii have got some problem regarding XServer after installing ogl and then removing it11:03
avagantxubuntu doesn't install right on mine, then again none of these seem to be.11:03
ra21vii cannt start X now11:03
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ra21viafter reboot *11:03
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MaKaTiGu1oskude: so how do i add those drives11:04
OptimusPrimecarefully11:04
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wickedpuppyra21vi, you meant after installing xgl ? or perhaps i do not know whats ogl ..11:04
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: first, which partitions do you want to mount ?11:04
ra21viHow can i reinstall the XServer11:04
ra21viwickedpuppy: yup11:04
avagantwhat's the difference between sudo i sudo s and sudo su11:04
ra21viwickedpuppy: thats XGL :)11:04
avagant!sudo11:04
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.11:04
MaKaTiGu1oskude: partition 511:05
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bsdirlXGL looks leet but it hates my card lol11:05
wickedpuppyra21vi, for that pls ask in #ubuntu-xgl11:05
ra21visame here11:05
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ra21viok wickedpuppy11:05
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: and on which ide bus and is it master or slave ?11:05
ra21vi:)11:05
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MaKaTiGu1oskude: i dont know the ide bus but the partition 5 drive is in the master HD11:06
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O2oh,  I know now why the 3d game run so slow in my laptop....11:07
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avagantit's what's for dinner.11:07
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OptimusPrimeim thinkin arby's11:08
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: well, how we are going to know where it is, if you dont know where its plugged ? :/ does the Disk Manager say which one (you think) it is ? /dev/hd?511:08
avagantbut really what's the difference in sudo -i sudo -s and sudo su?11:08
bsdirlman sudo :D11:08
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ra21viwhats the name of the xserver package without xgl11:08
avagantsheeeeeeeeesssh11:08
avagantok11:08
ra21vii mean default one11:08
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tureciaoragazzi11:09
ra21vihey11:09
ra21vi:(11:09
ra21vino reply11:09
MaKaTiGu1:(11:10
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: are the partitions on the same hd as ubuntu ?11:10
bsdirlxorg-xserver I think11:10
ra21vibsdirl: ok let me try11:10
ra21vithanks buddy11:10
bsdirlhope thats it ^_^11:11
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oskudeMaKaTiGu1: if they are on the same disk as the ubuntu youre using atm, then it would be /dev/hda511:11
MaKaTiGu1oskude: yes11:11
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bsdirlwell good morning folks, I have to sleep11:12
ra21vibsdirl: no buddy, that isnt it.. sudo apt-get install that gives no such package error11:12
bsdirl*waves*11:12
bsdirloh11:12
bsdirlI'll look right fast ra21vi11:12
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: ok, now we want to know where we want to mount it ? normal place would be in /media, like /media/hda5 (but you can mount it where ever you want)11:12
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ra21vibsdirl: ok11:13
bsdirlxserver-xorg-core11:13
ra21vibsdirl: ok11:13
MaKaTiGu1oskude: i created a directory wilson11:13
ra21vi:)11:13
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: where ? full path11:13
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ra21viok11:14
ra21vigot it11:14
bsdirlw00t!11:14
ra21vistill no much better11:14
MaKaTiGu1 /dude/wilson11:14
bsdirlawwww11:14
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ra21vii will have to delve deep into this problem11:14
bsdirlIm logging, so good luck!11:14
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ra21virebooting .................11:14
ra21vik] 11:14
ra21vieit11:14
ra21vi./q11:15
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oskudeMaKaTiGu1: sure ? is that in your home dir ? or is that really /dude/wilson ? or ~/dude/wilson eg. /home/dude/wilson ?11:15
mAIJKI use Valknut as an DC client but hubs kick me out becaus Its to old, any idea how to fix or another dc client?11:16
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MaKaTiGu1oskude: ok sorry, its /home/dude/wilson11:17
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gerhardmorning11:17
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oskudeMaKaTiGu1: ok, now, what format is the partition ?11:17
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MaKaTiGu1oskude: FAT3211:18
gerhardI have VMware Player and I created a VM with easy vmx. now, I want to install windows with my dvd recorder, but VMware Player does not find the right recorder, I guess it tries to use the cd recorder. how can I now change the vmx file, so that it accesses the dvd recorder?11:18
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: ok, sec11:18
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oskudeMaKaTiGu1: now open the /etc/fstab for editing "sudo /etc/fstab"11:20
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oskudeMaKaTiGu1: and add this to the end of that file "/dev/hda5  /home/dude/wilson  vfat  rw,user,noauto  0  0" (without the "" of course) (shift+insert is paste)11:21
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FractureI share a single boot partition between a dapper install and an edgy install.  Whenever one of them upgrades their kernel, update-grub is run, which re-does the menu.lst pointing all kernels to the current root partition.  Is there a way to solve this ?11:21
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MaKaTiGu1oskude: ok, tnx11:21
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: then ctrl+x to exit (Asks to save) and then you can mount that with "mount ~/wilson"11:22
acersaleshi i was going through linux learning and there is a lot of mention nerk administration, nerk time protocol, nerk concept and application i want to ask what is the meaning of nerk with linux administration ? what do they mean by it ?11:22
surfaceFracture:  is update-grub an ELF? or a script?11:22
MaKaTiGu1command not found11:22
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: and unmount with "umount ~/wilson" (theres allso a panel applet to mount things with a click)11:23
surfacenerk?11:23
Fracturesurface: shell script11:23
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: if you say "command not found" please allso paste the command :)11:23
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acersalessurface what do they mean by nerk time protocol, nerk concept , nerk administration ?11:23
surfaceFracture:  try to hack it if that is a shell script.11:23
boink"nerk"11:23
boinkis that nerd? :P11:24
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: as i dont know what you typed and got "command not found"11:24
surfaceacersales:  neveer heard about it ... "nerd" i know11:24
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acersalesok surface11:24
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MaKaTiGu1oskude:  sudo /etc/fstab11:25
acersalesso what does ntp protocol stand for ?11:25
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: oh sorry, my bad should be "sudo nano /etc/fstab"11:25
MaKaTiGu1:)11:25
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Fracturesurface: geesh. I don't think I am THAT good at shell programming11:26
acersalesoh may be they mean short of network :)11:26
pacmananyone awake over here11:26
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acersalesnerk ne(two)rk11:26
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MantitsI'm using a sound card that appears to be unsupported11:26
acersalesquiet silly anyway thanks surface11:26
MaKaTiGu1k hold on, tnx11:26
MantitsIs there a fix or do I have to just live w/o sound?11:26
Mantitslspci: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)11:27
pacmanI'm having a problem getting the right proprietary drivers for my ATI card11:27
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frtdxhello11:29
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[Nige] hi all11:30
[Nige] anyone played with freevo?11:30
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Ramunashello everybody :)11:31
mneptonRamunas!11:31
mneptonholy crap! ltns!11:31
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MaKaTiGu1oskude: mount ~/wilson ----- > mount point /home/dude/wilson does not exist11:31
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: and, does it exist ?11:32
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Mantitshmmm11:32
MantitsImma format my linux partition and install fedora core 5 instead11:32
Mantitsk bye11:32
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MaKaTiGu1Oskude: yes, /home/dude/wilson11:32
Ramunasmnepton: I thought I saw your nick somewhere11:33
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: so your user name is "dude" ?11:33
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MaKaTiGu1odkude: yes11:33
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oskudeMaKaTiGu1: hmm, could you pastenbin your /etc/fstab again11:34
MaKaTiGu1ok11:34
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oskudeMaKaTiGu1: brb11:37
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avaganthmmmm sudo doesn't ask me for my password anymore.11:42
avaganthow do i logout enough so that it asks for it again?11:42
avagantit just goes straight to root.11:42
shriphaniavagant, just wait for a while11:42
oskudeavagant: reopen terminal (it save the password for that session for 5mins or so)11:42
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MaKaTiGu1oskude: thanks you....11:43
MaKaTiGu1oskude: thank you....11:43
MaKaTiGu1oskude: finally11:43
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: working ?11:43
MaKaTiGu1wohh11:43
MaKaTiGu1yes11:43
avagantI got kinda nervous for a minute.11:44
MaKaTiGu1oskude i miss my files...heheheh11:44
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: and can you allso read and write that as normal user ? (im fearing)11:44
MaKaTiGu1k, ill try11:44
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MaKaTiGu1it's working...,heheheh11:45
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MaKaTiGu1thanks a lot oskude.....11:45
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oskudeMaKaTiGu1: youre welcome (but i still wonder that it works:)11:46
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MaKaTiGu1oskude: can i do that in the remaing drives?11:46
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oskudeMaKaTiGu1: yup, just change the dev, mount point and filesystem11:47
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oskudeMaKaTiGu1: if one is a ntfs, it seems you need to use "user,noauto,umask=007,gid=46" to be able to read it (i dont suggest to write on ntfs)11:48
MaKaTiGu1oskude: dev/hda5  /home/dude/wilson  vfat  rw,user,noauto  0  0 ---> i'll just change the mounting point11:48
MaKaTiGu1oskude: same syntax?11:48
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: you need to change the /dev/hda5 too11:49
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: for vfat (fat32) it seems you can use those mount options11:49
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MaKaTiGu1oskude: the 2 drives are in ntfs11:50
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oskudeMaKaTiGu1: then change the /dev/hda5 to the right partition number, change the mount point (remember to make that dir first) and for ntfs use options "user,noauto,umask=007,gid=46" instead11:51
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oskudeMaKaTiGu1: fyi: "Disks Manager" used these options for my ntfs partition "defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46"11:54
MaKaTiGu1oskude: i more thing, webcam, how do i enable it11:54
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oskudeMaKaTiGu1: depends, have you looked if your webcam is listed here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras11:55
dimbontest and hallo11:55
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oskudeMaKaTiGu1: and here should be some help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam (but i never used a webcam)11:55
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oskudeMaKaTiGu1: but in best case it should be just plug-and-play...11:56
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alfredbonjour je suis nouveau sur ubuntu..11:57
oskude!fr11:58
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:58
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lansinghey ppl iam back11:58
alfredje voudrais savoir comment monter fdo merci11:58
dimbonbonjour11:58
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lansinghey avagant u still here??11:59
MaKaTiGu1oskude: ok, thanks a lot...11:59
oskudeMaKaTiGu1: np11:59
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alfredbonjour,comment monter fdo pour des sauvegardes. merci11:59
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bun-bun!fr > alfred12:00
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lansingcan some one help me install java??12:03
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oskude!java > lansing12:04
illvarghi! is 6.10 going to be released at the end of the month?12:04
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oskude!schedule > illvarg12:04
blackpawhello, fine people.12:04
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lansingthanx again oskude12:04
cntb!fixboot12:05
illvarg!schedule12:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fixboot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:05
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule12:05
oskude!grub > cntb12:05
ch4n5HAL deamon can't be initialized. How to fix this error?12:05
cntbty12:05
bun-bun!easyubuntu12:05
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.12:05
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lansingive got breezy will that java work12:06
illvargoskude: tnx12:06
lansingwill java 5 work on breezy12:06
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oskudelansing: propably, but the helps on ubotu are mostly for the actual version of ubuntu...12:07
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kemiklansing: yeah it works with breezy12:07
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mart1hi there ... how do I customize my keyboard layouts in fluxbox?12:10
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mart1this doesn't work:12:10
mart1  setxkbmap -layout "us,es" -option "grp:alt_shift_toggle"12:10
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ch4n5 HAL deamon can't be initialized. How to fix this error?12:10
mart1(it worked on a centos distro)12:11
oskude!work12:11
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.12:11
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frtdxlol12:11
scanwindercan someone reccomend some linux-complatible portable media players - like ipod but more linux friendly12:11
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oskudescanwinder: i would say, any device that can be mounted as disk... (and plays ogg)12:12
frtdxscanwinder: u can always use RockBox on any media player in the market right now12:12
frtdxwww.RockBox.org12:12
bun-bunscanwinder# i'm pretty happy with my iriver12:12
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denndais there any tool to recover deleted files which where stored on a logical ext3 partition?12:12
scanwinderbun-bun, which iriver? im interested in iriver clix12:12
bun-bunscanwinder# i have an older one, the model # escapes me right now12:13
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bun-bunscanwinder# i think it was one of their first hard disk based models12:13
oskudedennda: do "apt-cache search undelete" you get couple tools, but i never used them12:13
denndathanks. i will try12:13
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denndathese tools are only for the use with ntfs / ext2 :(12:14
ch4n5oskude: HAL deamon can't be initialized. How to fix this error?12:14
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oskudedennda: yeah, saw that now too (but normally ext2 tools work with ext3)12:14
oskudech4n5: sorry, no idea12:15
bun-bunscanwinder# it's an H34012:15
denndai will give it a try12:15
oskudedennda: please dont, they explicit say doesnt work with ext3!12:15
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denndahm :(12:15
oskudedennda: try asking again (with interval) or try google/ubuntuforums.org12:16
denndai will do so. thank you, oskude12:16
lansingwill java 5 work for breezy12:16
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oskudedennda: hups ? look for "undelete" here :/ http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/FAQs/ext3-faq.html12:17
denndai am recently trying apt-cache search ext312:17
dennda*recently = now12:17
lansinghey oskude i hav a ?12:18
lansingwill java 5 work for ubuntu breezy12:18
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oskudelansing: didnt someone allready answer to that ?12:18
lansingnot that i seen12:18
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oskudelansing: hmm "<kemik> lansing: yeah it works with breezy"12:19
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lansingok thanx so much12:19
mart1anybody knowing how to customize keyboard layouts in fluxbox?12:20
lansingfor ur help i do apreshiate this alot since iam new n all12:20
oskudelansing: you know that the strong point of java is that it runs on "any" os ? ;)12:20
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lansingo ok kool12:20
oskudelansing: well, i cant help on java, i never use it...12:20
lansingo k12:21
LSD`'write once, run anywhere' never really happened with java, lol12:21
znullheya ubuntu runs under a old p1 mmx 266 32/RAM 2 MB video ati rage laptop12:21
lansingbut u can help wit others right12:21
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LSD`znull: you'd have to have killed the GUI with that little RAM12:21
bun-bunlansing# check out easyubuntu if you're just looking to get java up and running.12:21
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hockyhairhello12:21
hockyhairhow can i change the default startdir for terminals12:22
=== oskude allways thought java would be like sudo apt-get install java-something :/
hockyhairsay eterm or aterm12:22
screechingcatoskude : it is12:22
hockyhairi looked at man coulnd see anything12:22
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fred_How can I know all the versions available for a package (in my case, mozilla-firefox) ?12:23
screechingcatoskude : its sudo apt-get install sun-java 512:23
screechingcatoskude, or something like that12:23
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oskudehockyhair: one way could be adding "cd /where/you/want/to/go" to the end of ~/.bashrc12:23
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hockyhairoskude: ty!12:24
screechingcatanyone here playing warzone2100 ?12:24
hockyhairthank you ;)12:24
hockyhairoskude: do you use gnome or better yet beryl by chance?12:25
oskudefred_: normally theres only one version in "standard" ubuntu repos12:25
oskude!xgl > hockyhair12:25
screechingcati cant get it to install12:25
lansingwat do i try to find it and install it12:25
hockyhairi have it up12:25
hockyhairi just am having issues with pypanel12:25
fred_oskude, So it's not possible to do something like this : aptitude install mozilla-firefox=1.0.8 ?12:25
oskudefred_: hmm, dunno, sorry, never done that12:25
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hockyhairfirst it was loading before beryl and not covering all desktops, now it loads after (i changed settings in sessions) but after beryl loads it doesnt load at all12:26
hockyhairit's set for 60 and beryl is set for 2012:26
denndaoskude, i just found a statement about one of ext3s qualitys that do not allow file recovery12:26
oskudehockyhair: beryl support is at #ubuntu-xgl (as ubotu told you)12:26
oskudedennda: yup, i gave you a link and a tip...12:27
denndaunfortunately this won't work. thank you anyway, oskude12:27
hockyhairthanks oskude12:27
sykes^Anyone here use the G15 keyboard ang G5 mouse in Ubuntu? (logitech)12:27
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LaRevolucionhi all12:27
LaRevolucion:)12:27
sykes^Hi12:27
fred_oskude, The problem is, after updating firefox, aptitude remove mozilla-firefox-locale-ja.  Apparently, there is a conflict and both packages cannot co-exist with the latest versions.  I would like to undo the upgrade.  Isn't it possible somehow?12:28
sykes^!g512:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about g5 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:28
sykes^!g1512:28
LaRevolucionI've installed ubuntu-server.. now I want to install X. How can I do ?12:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about g15 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:28
wrabbit^!whatsayyou12:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about whatsayyou - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:28
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LSD`!4212:28
sykes^!logitech12:28
oskudefred_: im just reading "man apt-get" and it says " A specific version of a package can be selected for installation by  following the package name with an equals and the version of  the package to select."12:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 42 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:28
LSD`...12:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about logitech - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:28
sykes^Gah12:28
wrabbit^LSD! zomg, you've found a bug12:28
sykes^Anyone use G15 and/or G5 here?12:28
screechingcatfred_, try thru synaptic12:29
LaRevolucion!X12:29
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:29
wrabbit^As if ubotu doesn't know 4212:29
oskudefred_: and that means the package version, not the "program" version" (afaik)12:29
LSD`how can it *not* know that 42 is the answer to life, the universe and everything? Even google calculator knows that! :P12:29
wrabbit^lol12:29
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wrabbit^it does?12:29
LaRevolucion!install X12:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about install X - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:29
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sykes^LSD`, Is 42 the calculation of life?12:29
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LSD`wrabbit^: type "the answer to life, the universe and everything' into google and the first result should be google calculator telling you it equals 4212:30
wrabbit^42 is the meaning of life, the universe and everything sykes^12:30
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fred_Looking at aptitude's log file, I see this : [UPGRADE]  firefox 1.0.8-0ubuntu5.10.1 -> 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.7-0ubuntu5.10.312:30
lansingcan some one help me install java i got it now i tryin to use the terminal to install it fully12:30
sykes^wrabbit^, I dont get it... What does 42 have to do with everything?12:30
LSD`sykes^: Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy?12:30
wrabbit^LSD`: that is freakin' awesome :)12:30
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sykes^LSD`, lol ok12:30
wrabbit^sykes^: Never read Douglas Adams?12:30
LSD`sykes^: you've never heard of hitchhikers guide to the galaxy?!?12:31
oskude!ontopic12:31
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!12:31
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sykes^Never heard of him, but I've heard of the filk HGTTG12:31
sykes^film12:31
fred_However if I do aptitude install mozilla-firefox=1.0.8-0ubuntu5.10.1 it says the version cannot be found.12:31
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sykes^Does anyone use the G15 keyboard and/or the G5 mouse here? (logitech) Need some help finding drivers for them (g5 is most important)12:32
sykes^-anyone12:32
sykes^Or no, +anyone12:32
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oskudesykes^: well, ive used ps/2 and usb mouses/keyboards and they work out-of-the-box... are those some weird hardware ?12:33
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sykes^G5 is a gaming mouse so you can set the sensitivity directly on the mouse (if you want to sniper or something its betetr with low sense in-game), and g15 got a LCD display12:34
sykes^Supid info: The keyboard cost me $80 and the mouse $68 :P12:34
sykes^stupidDDD*12:34
KryczekHello! I just installed Ubuntu and everything I think I'll need for a "normal user" usage ;) except that Firefox cannot play videos on the CNN website.... any idea what package I have to install to enable Firefox to play embedded (Windows Media I suppose) videos?12:34
oskudesykes^: well, does the manufacturer have linux drivers ?12:34
sykes^Nope12:34
wickedpuppysykes^, for exotic hardware , hope the manufacturer has the drivers or one of those who own it is also a ilnux hacker ...12:35
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sykes^wickedpuppy, Ok, I'll try to become a linux hacker then :P12:36
oskudesykes^: then i would suggest to google (or wait for someone here to have the same hardware working)12:36
sykes^Or I'm going to buy a new keyboard this month anyways, this k-board sucks balls12:36
oskudesykes^: 1st hit :/ http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/06/20/logitech-g5-review-under-linux/12:36
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sykes^oskude, checking12:36
capitalideaI just installed swiftfox using the AMD64 deb provided on its homepage, but when I try to run swiftfox what actually happens is that firefox is started. :-(12:37
oskudecapitalidea: whats swiftfox ?12:37
sykes^oskude, Thought that only was a reviw12:37
capitalideait's a leaner version of firefox12:37
oskudesykes^: did you scroll to the xorg.conf file ? :/12:38
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oskudecapitalidea: and did they have ubuntu dapper packages ?12:38
sykes^oskude, No I'm still 97% noob on linux, but gonna check it now12:38
j2dopehi. can I connect to WPA enabled wireless networks on ubuntu?12:38
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mneptonKryczek: sudo apt-get install mplayer-mozilla12:38
capitalideaoskude: I don't believe so.12:39
mneptonKryczek: and even then, the latest MS codecs are a problem because MS consider their AV codecs a DANGEROUS SECRET THAT MUST BE PROTECTED!12:39
mnepton*sigh*12:39
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oskudecapitalidea: well ...12:39
lansinghelp plz iam tryin to install java but it says couldnt find package12:39
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kemikoskude: since "sun-java" isnt free, it's not supported in the official ubuntu repos...12:40
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kemik(unless that's changed in dapper && edgy.. i dunno about that)12:40
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kemiklansing: follow the wikipages12:40
capitalideaoskude: well...?12:40
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lansingwitch is12:40
oskudecapitalidea: if they dont have ubuntu dapper packages, youre only hope is to compile it yourself...12:40
capitalideawhich is*12:40
sykes^oskude, I have to reload X after I change the xorg.conf, right?12:41
capitalideaoskude: Why is that? What is wrong with the deb?12:41
kemiklansing: use google. im not gonna do it for you12:41
oskudesykes^: yup12:41
sykes^oskude, Ok, brb12:41
j2dopeanyone? do I need anything special to connect to WPA wireless networks on ubuntu?12:41
oskudecapitalidea: it has to be for ubuntu dapper !12:41
lansingk12:41
shylaahello can any one help me if I upgrade to LTS from 5.04 do i keep same settings like dual monitor12:41
kemikj2dope: thought that was impossible in linux12:41
j2dopereally?12:41
mneptonj2dope: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome12:41
yangowhy are some flash movies displayed wrongly with the flash plugin for firefox?12:41
kemikj2dope: WPA i mean12:41
yangoespecially regarding fonts12:41
oskudeshylaa: in theory yes...12:41
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mneptonkemik: it's 100% possible12:41
capitalideaoskude: Why? I'm fishing for the technical details here...12:41
kemikmnepton: ah cool.. WPA2 also ?12:42
Kryczekmnepton: thanks, I'll install mozilla-mplayer :) Which actually brings me to one last question, if you don't mind... Why is it for example that mozilla-mplayer appears in the list of packages of Synaptic, but not in the "Add/Remove Software" interface?12:42
sykesOk lets see if it works12:42
mneptonkemik: you betchya12:42
shylaaoskude thankyou12:42
oskudecapitalidea: can you install windows xp programs on windows 3.1 ?12:42
kemikj2dope: dont listen to me then, listen to mnepton12:42
kemik:D12:42
j2dopeheheh all good kemik12:42
capitalideaoskude: Is Ubuntu no longer based on Debian?12:42
j2dopethanks mnepton, installing now12:42
oskudecapitalidea: ubuntu dapper != ubuntu breezy != debian what ever12:42
oskudecapitalidea: yeah its BASED on debian, but its NOT debian12:43
j2dopeok, gonna try it now, brb in 2 mins if mnepton is right ;)12:43
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capitalideaBut it is linux and the path to swiftfox did not magically get turned into the path to firefox by the Mozilla Foundation Fairy.12:43
oskude!debian > capitalidea12:43
shriphani!debian12:43
ubotuDebian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded". To see more details on the relationship, see: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship12:43
mneptonand if any of you tell my girlfriend i said that, i'm coming to live with *you* when she laughs me out of the house.12:43
oskudecapitalidea: linux is just the kernel12:43
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capitalideathis is becoming very exasperating very quickly.12:44
shriphanicapitalidea, distros adhere to the linux standard base12:44
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shriphanialways12:44
capitalidealinux standard base? do mean the kernel or something external to that?12:45
oskudecapitalidea: well, you just have to accept that ubuntu != debian, when it comes to install debian debs...12:45
Nem1Does anybody knows how to install Limewire on linux edubuntu?12:45
kemikshriphani: do they ? you're referring to ubuntu strictly now right ?12:45
shriphanikemik, all distros12:45
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capitalideaI remain uncovinced.12:46
KryczekNem1: I think GtkGnutella uses the same network than Limewire12:46
sykeshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26282/12:46
sykesHow fix that? Cant find any x64 edition12:46
mneptonNem1: gtk-gnutella is your path of least resistance12:46
shriphanits you to know: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control,12:46
Nem1kryczek, what is this?12:46
shriphanihttp://www.freestandards.org/en/LSB12:46
Nem1GtkGnutella???12:46
KryczekNem1: another program, just not called "Limewire" but it should be compatible as far as I know :)12:46
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Aaron1im setting up ubuntu now and setting up the partitions with one NFTS, one FAT32, and one Extended partition that has EXT3, EXT3 Home and a Swap12:47
Aaron1is it ok to have the Swap partition within an extended partition12:47
Nem1where can i find it??12:47
mneptonsykes: you don;t fix it. there is no Flash for x86-64. chroot a 32 bit Fx or run the i386 version.12:47
shriphaniand capitalidea what is your objective ?12:47
Aaron1does it make any difference if you use extended partitions12:47
Kryczekmnepton: sorry to bother you, but apparently you missed my question ;p12:47
Kryczekmnepton: thanks, I'll install mozilla-mplayer :) Which actually brings me to one last question, if you don't mind... Why is it for example that mozilla-mplayer appears in the list of packages of Synaptic, but not in the "Add/Remove Software" interface?12:47
sykesSo I have to wait for them to make a version for x64?12:47
sykesx86-64*12:47
oskudeAaron1: yes, linux doesnt care where your partitions are12:48
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Aaron1k, thanks12:48
Nem1kryczek,where can i find GtkGnutella????12:48
shriphaniNem1, the repos12:48
totall_6_7oskude: unless the partition happens to be ntfs ;)12:48
Nem1what is the repos12:48
mneptonKryczek: the Add/Remove does not reflect all entries in all repos.12:48
shriphaniNem1, the repositories12:48
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shriphani!repos12:49
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource12:49
oskudeKryczek: i think "Add/Remove Software" has only software that is officially supported by ubuntu12:49
Kryczekmnepton: yeah, I got that :) just wondering what entries it is reflecting then12:49
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Kryczekah ok12:49
Aaron1ive got the FAT32 so it can be a shared partition12:49
Kryczekoskude: the ones that have a small Ubuntu icon next to them in Synaptic ?12:49
Nem1spriphani, where are they?12:49
shriphaniNem1, why do you need them ?12:49
Nem1repos12:49
oskudeAaron1: yes, thats the most common way to share files with windows (but theres allso a ext2/3 driver for windows)12:49
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oskudeKryczek: yeah, that could be it12:50
shriphaniNem1, sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella12:50
Nem1thx12:50
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Aaron1thanks oskude12:52
Kryczeklol, I just installed mozilla-mplayer as mnepton suggested, and it plays videos on cnn.com very well, except...12:52
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usuarioSUARIO12:52
Kryczekwhenever a window covers all or part of the video12:52
Kryczekthen this area remains gray12:52
usuarioHELLO12:52
mneptonKryczek: so then Don't Do That(tm) ;)12:52
Kryczekand if I switch to another virtual desktop and come back12:52
usuarioHOLA12:53
Kryczekit's like if I covered it completely12:53
Kryczekso it's all gray12:53
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Kryczekand I don't see the video anymore :/12:53
Kryczekmnepton: any idea? :)12:53
capitalideaoskude: Apparently, if firefox is already open, swiftfox just opens another window of firefox... - on the flip side of that, the swiftfox deb works flawlessly12:53
mneptonKryczek: blame MS for not releasing the source to their codecs so that media players can actually wortk well with them12:53
Kryczekmnepton: well I don't think it has anything to do with the codecs12:53
shriphanicapitalidea, this deb was not gotten from the deb repos ?12:54
Kryczekthat works in Kubuntu with the kmplayer :/12:54
capitalideaI have a suspicion that this is because Firefox looks for open copies of itself to reduce memory usage12:54
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mneptonKryczek: it has to to with MPlayer's use of the framebuffer while using that codec, though12:54
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capitalideashriphani: I thought I said that I got it off the swiftfox home page, yes, it was not from the repos.12:54
mneptonj2dope: wb12:54
omar hello guys, I am trying to munt a folder from a windows machine with this command : sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.20/Nuevas ~/Lap -o urd=omar , but I get and error : mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //192.168.1.20/Nuevas, whats wrong with it12:54
shriphanicapitalidea, then it should work on ubuntu12:54
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j2dopeWPA works with network-manager-gnome, thanks mnepton :)12:54
capitalideashriphani: It is :-)12:54
mneptonj2dope: np. glad you have it working.12:55
j2dopenow im completely wireless, bar the power cable and all this USB shite ;)12:55
sykesCan anyone name a good e-mail client for ubuntu? (which I can choose from add/remove programs) (except thunderbirg) please12:55
j2dopeevolution?12:55
shriphanithen what were you not convinced with earlier ?12:55
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Kryczekmnepton: ok, if you say so... thanks for the help already :)12:55
sykesTried it, but I need to change POP and SMTP port, cant find out how to do it though12:55
sykesUsing gmail..12:56
mneptonKryczek: i live to serve the Ubuntu community :)12:56
sykesOh yeah, anyone want a gmail invitation btw? I got 45 left12:56
mnepton(oh, and to watch Oprah. she's dreeeeeeamy.)12:56
capitalideashriphani: oskude submits that .debs are not for ubuntu and are magically not compatible, at all. that was the point I was doubting. (I could see why this isn't true all the time though)12:56
LSD`j2dope: power would be wireless too if the nikola tesla had had his way. Unfortunately sending power wirelssy begged the question of where would the metre (and thus the way to charge for it) would go and go got shot down12:56
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shriphanicapitalidea, if these debs come from the debian servers no they are not12:57
UB_omar may be you mean UID and not URD12:57
j2dopeanyone know why my /etc/resolv.conf keeps 'reseting' itself? usually after every reboot...12:57
shriphaninot many debs that are offered work too12:57
normeoEkushey: was just wondering if someone could help me with a problem booting the installcd12:57
mneptonj2dope: by design12:57
normeodamn nick complete!!12:57
mneptonj2dope: your DHCP server is assigning DNS servers12:57
normeo*hey*12:57
sykes^How do I change ports for POP & SMTP in Evolution?12:58
lansinghey avagant i reinstalled my op and i need a lil help on wat to typ  in the terminal to install java12:58
capitalideaWhat is happening ( I think ) is that swiftfox looks just like a running firefox so when either of them start up they both look for a running instance of firefox and then tell that instance to open a new window.12:58
j2dopeyeah.. for some reason DHCP works fiiiine on windows.. on linux, it wont work unless I manually type in my DNS server...12:58
omarUB_ same thing12:58
lansingi dont under stand the forums12:58
j2dopemnepton: so what u mean 'by design'?12:58
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shriphanij2dope, maybe you havent told the box that its dhcp12:59
UB_omar do you wanna mount it via samba?12:59
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shriphaniyawn12:59
shriphanioops12:59
j2dopeshriphani: the networking tool (under administration) *is* set to DHCP. but as said, it won't get me online unless i manually set the DNS server12:59
j2dopeunder windows DHCP works fine12:59
UB_so use -t smbfs but before check you have installed the package smbfs12:59
oskudecapitalidea: then things is, debian (may) have different versions of librarys on what a program depends.01:00
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normeowhen i try to boot the install cd i get a problem it hangs on "loading kernel"01:00
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normeodoes anyone know of any problems that cause this?01:00
oskudecapitalidea: thats the same case why you (mostly) cant even install dapper debs on breezy01:01
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yapi_hi01:01
yapi_i had to run fsck manualy, after that, i managed to bootup linux kernel, until it says: waiting for the root... ... and drops me into initramfs busybox, saying something cannot find /dev/hda1?! that's / btw. i've tried ubuntu live, and it has all devices in /dev but they r wiped out on boot... what can i do?01:02
oskudecapitalidea: and lets say a program depends on package foo12 on debian, but on ubuntu its called foo12-ubuntu1, how is that gonna work ?01:02
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normeoany help?01:05
lansingi need help01:05
oskudenormeo: did you check the md5sum of the downloaded image (if you downloaded it) ? did you use the "check cd" option on the cd at boot ?01:05
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normeothe cd check option doesn't work either, still brings up the same message for loading kernel and hangs01:06
oskudenormeo: if the check cd doesnt say ok, please check the md5sum of the image you downloaded01:06
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lansingis there anyone out there that is kind enough to help out some one that dont know a dam thing about ubuntu01:07
capitalideaoskude:ofcourse that wouldn't work. this binary works dandy though. (yeah, it's a special case)01:07
oskude!ask > lansing01:07
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oskudecapitalidea: and you have to update that package manually...01:07
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lansingi have several time and no one will01:08
oskudelansing: then wait a while and ask again...01:08
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lansingk01:08
oskude!rules01:09
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines01:09
oskudetip: when noone is saysing anything, that could be a good time to repeat your question ;)01:09
lansingok01:09
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cpk2i was about to tell lansing that unfortunately i cant read minds =P01:10
lansingi have java on my computer but i dont know how to install it from the terminal01:10
oskude!away > Powerbook`Away01:10
cpk2lansing: you can install java from the repos01:10
cpk2lansing: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin01:11
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cpk2i believe is the package name01:11
lansingif tryed that it says it cat find it01:11
omarthanks UB_01:11
cpk2!info sun-java5-bin01:11
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ubotusun-java5-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 21625 kB, installed size 65608 kB01:11
boinkapt-cache search java first01:11
shriphanilansing, ya dun have multiverse enabled01:12
cpk2lansing: is multiverse enabled?01:12
boinkif you're installing java yourself, then just follow the documentation from Sun01:12
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lansinghow do i enable it01:12
capitalideacpk2: he probably doesn't have more than the default repos01:12
capitalideaaha!01:12
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boinkdid you get the file from Sun yourself?01:13
oskude!repos > lansing01:13
lansingi just reinstalled ubuntu breezy so its all default01:13
boinkbreezy? that's quite old01:13
oskudelansing: btw, is there a reason that you still use breezy ?01:13
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boinkyou should first do an update to dapper01:13
cpk2lansing: well that depends on what makes you happy, you can do it via the gui in synaptics ( i have no clue how to use synaptics =P) or edit /etc/apt/sources.list01:13
dakkarI have to install Ubuntu on a Intel multi-Xeon server, that uses EFI, and has no CD drive. I can use a USB stick, but I have very little idea about hov to do it (elilo? how?)01:14
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lansingok wat do  i edit on sources.list01:14
fyrestrtrdakkar: your server has electronic fuel injection?01:14
boinkchange everything from breezy to dapper01:15
dakkarfyrestrtr: might be easier if it had ;-) EFI is the news BIOS01:15
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boinkyou have good bandwidth? the upgrade will download a lot of stuff01:15
capitalideadakkar: is it a Macintel?01:15
lansingok but will dapper work for this version01:15
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boinkfor what version?01:16
dakkarcapitalidea: no, an Intel multi-Xeon server01:16
lansingbreezy01:16
binfalsenot sure01:16
capitalideadakkar: wow, I had no idea Intel was using EFI yet01:16
boinkbreezy is an old version of ubuntu01:16
boinkIt was the second release, if I'm not mistakes01:16
frtdxhey guys .. pppoe help01:16
boinkdapper is the current stable release01:16
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fyrestrtrdakkar: so what's the problem?01:16
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frtdxi use raspppoe in windows ... will the command "sudo pppoeconf" let me setup ppp through a NIC?01:17
lansingok so wat should i do then ?01:17
frtdxas opposed to a modem?01:17
fyrestrtr!source-o-matic01:17
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic01:17
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oskude!pppoe > frtdx01:18
boinkbut source-o-matic has many mistakes01:18
boinkPLF doesn't exist anymore, for example01:18
dakkarfyrestrtr: I have no CD drive, and I don't know hav to make a Ubuntu installer into a USB stick that is EFI-bootable01:18
frtdxty oskude01:18
lansingok then wat should i do if it source o matic has alot of mistakes01:19
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boinkas I said, on your current sources.list, replace breezy with dapper01:19
boinkthat's all you need to do01:19
oskudelansing: report to seveas (or who did that tool)01:19
boinkthen upgrade your whole system first01:19
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frtdxcan someone recommend a good lightweight firewall for ubuntu01:20
Arcainusiptables ?01:20
CromagDKiptables ?01:20
CromagDK:D01:20
cpk2itables01:20
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cpk2iptables*01:20
cpk2doh01:20
cpk2lol01:20
HeathenDanfirestarter to config iptables01:20
Arcainussnap :)01:20
oskude!iptables > frtdx01:21
Rookie_!shorewall01:21
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)01:21
fyrestrtrdakkar: checked the installation wiki entry?01:21
cpk2but why bother configuring iptables01:21
lansingok where can i get the latets version01:21
boinkof what?01:21
dakkarfyrestrtr: no mention of EFI as far as I can see01:21
frtdxty oskude01:21
lansingubuntu as u said i have to upgrade01:21
fyrestrtrask Intel support, as I doubt anyone here has any experience with EFI.01:22
dakkarfyrestrtr: I *might* copy the CD onto the stick, put elilo.efi in there, and try to boot the kernel... didn't work with slax01:22
HeathenDancause an unconfiged iptables will not be invisible01:22
SFA_AOKis there a list of ubuntu chat rooms somewhere?01:22
boinkapt-get upgrade will do the upgrade, as long as your sources.list is in order01:22
wickedpuppySFA_AOK, /msg chanserv  list *ubuntu*01:22
SFA_AOKthanks01:22
boinkafter editing the sources.list, sudo apt-get clean .. then sudo apt-get upgrade01:23
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CeddieDoes anyone know about the IDE drivers compiled into the Dapper 6.06/.1 kernel?  Specifically they return the wrong size/geometry as if I had an 80c cable to a Seagate 40GB drive, when I haven't and the BIOS only supports 32GB drives, and crashes on reboot.01:23
Mez!dvd > mez01:23
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oskudeboink: lansing dont forget sudo apt-get update before sudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:23
boinkyes, that too01:24
lansingoook01:24
boinkare you on good bandwidth now?01:24
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oskude!upgrade > lansing01:24
boinkit will download a lot of stuff. don't use if you're on 56k modem01:25
frtdx!tuner01:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tuner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:25
boinkor you'll be waiting for days :P01:25
frtdx!tv01:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:25
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lansingthnx01:25
fyrestrtrCeddie: enable LBA in your BIOS01:25
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boinkafter the upgrade, you'll have the latest ubuntu stable release01:26
fyrestrtr!mythrv01:26
fyrestrtr!mythtv01:26
boinkthen you can work on the java01:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mythrv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:26
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ubotumythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/01:26
frtdx!lightweight01:26
frtdxoops01:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lightweight - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:26
Ceddiefyrestrt: it's not a BIOS problem - it worked on a 2.4 Slackware kernel.  It's an LX motherboard that cannot access >32GB01:26
Mannyhi01:26
frtdx!mp301:26
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:26
fyrestrtrCeddie: livecd works?01:26
oskude!botabuse > frtdx01:26
frtdxsorry01:27
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oskudefrtdx: np, i saw you learn quick :)01:27
frtdx:) hehe greedy for info01:27
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Mannymaybe this is the 10^4th time you read this question, but please don't slap me with trouts or such: For some days, after an xorg update, my fglrx-powered OpenGL apps stopped working (they use software rendering). My log file contains the following - IMHO suspicious - lines:01:28
Manny(II) Loading local sub module "GLcore"01:28
Manny(II) LoadModule: "GLcore"01:28
Manny(II) Reloading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so01:28
Manny(II) GLX: Initialized MESA-PROXY GL provider for screen 001:28
Mannyfglrxinfo also shows that software rendering is used01:28
Ceddiefirestrtr: livecd runs, but when I choose guided partitioning, it creates a partition in the inaccessible space, and I only managed to recover with Windows floppy and FDISK01:28
Mannyam I missing anything? Should fglrx overwrite this libGLcore with its own version?01:29
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Mannymaybe sb. with a working fglrx OpenGL setup could check the GLcore-related messages in his Xorg log?01:29
lansingiso right??01:29
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MannyI'm on Edgy Eft, btw.01:30
oskude!edgy > Manny01:30
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MannyI see01:31
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Mannymaybe the topic should mention this shortly before releases? :)01:31
Mannyoskude: thanks01:31
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snoopshey, umm.. how can I search for something like "start text UNKNOWN CHARS HERE + NEWLINES end text" in a string like "blah blah start text random stuff here end text blah blah blah" with regex?01:32
lansingcant i just change my source list to dapper without harming my sys ?01:32
oskudesnoops: by asking a guru ;)01:32
oskudelansing: you mean using packages from dapper in breezy (with out upgrading to dapper) ?01:33
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lansingya01:33
oskudelansing: i wouldnt recommend...01:33
tucozsnoops, of course. that is what regex' is made for.01:34
Mannysnoops: "start text (.+) end text".01:34
normeooskude: md5sum verified ok01:34
lansingo darn01:34
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oskudenormeo: ok, but check cd doesnt say ok ? (maybe burn it again, with low speed)01:34
normeoi've burnt it 3 times on different media01:35
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oskudelansing: you did a fresh install of breezy like a sec ago ?01:35
snoopsManny yes.. but I thought .+ ignores new lines?01:35
normeostill same problem01:35
lansingya01:35
oskudenormeo: with what speeds ?01:35
normeocd check goes the same way as loading the other menu options, hangs at kernel loading screen01:35
oskudelansing: then you could atleast try what you wanted :)01:35
normeo704kb/s01:35
normeoslowest i can go01:35
oskudenormeo: ok, then try "ide=nodma" as boot option01:35
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normeoi dnt understand where to enter these boot options?01:36
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lansingso  then it wont harm it01:36
boinkubuntu want to come out with a new release I think about twice a year01:36
normeoi've seen forum topics on them but no details on where to enter01:36
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oskudenormeo: theres an F? key for boot options (look at the bottom of the screen) and then add "ide=nodma" to the end of that line (without th "")01:36
SFA_AOKIf I install Edgy with a live CD, mount the installation in the live CD, chroot to where edgy is installed and run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade.... would that update the installation on my hard drive with the latest packages? Or am i barking up the wrong tree?01:37
normeoahh f601:37
normeoyh i just dint understand how to put stuff in there :D01:37
normeoill bbs, gonna give it a go01:37
oskudeSFA_AOK: and why dont you boot with the installed system ?01:38
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fyrestrtrSFA_AOK: that will upgrade your installation, but its easier to just run apt-get update from the system itself.01:38
lansingcan i get the forum to edit the sourcelist plz if it ownt harm my sys01:38
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fyrestrtrlansing: I can post my sources list for dapper if you want, just copy it and replace yours.01:39
SFA_AOKsorry, chat client crashed01:39
oskudelansing: forum to edit sources.list ?01:39
lansingok plz01:39
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oskudeSFA_AOK: but in theory that could work, did you try ?01:39
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fyrestrtrlansing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26284/01:40
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SFA_AOKreason is, I have a core 2 duo with a motherboard with JMicron and ICH8... I can get Ubuntu installed on the Jmicron channel with a live CD but Grub doesnt like the jmicron... And the last live cd doesnt have ICH8 support, but a fix for this has been released01:41
oskudefyrestrtr: omg...01:41
fyrestrtrwhat/01:41
lansingthanx fyrestrtr01:41
normeobk01:41
normeooskude: no worky :(01:41
oskudefyrestrtr: so much unofficial repos for newbies...01:41
lansingwat do i tye to edit my sources list01:41
SFA_AOKso im thinking, install on JMicron, apt-get update/upgrade, fudge the grub options, change the drive to the ich8 and hopefully thatll fix things01:41
SFA_AOKpretty long way around but i think its the only way im going to get things workign today :/01:42
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oskudenormeo: hmm, im out of ideas, sorry01:42
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fyrestrtrSFA_AOK: sounds like a job for the alternate install cd.01:44
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fyrestrtrlansing: type gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list01:44
kortziHow can i get rid of the network connection icons on the desktop (other than delete the whole connection)?01:44
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Byanlansing: everything your asking is here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper01:45
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frtdxhi.. where can i find a step by step (Xp + ubuntu) dual boot guide01:45
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lansingbyan i dont undeerstant those forum thingys thats why i ask here01:45
oskude!dualboot > frtdx01:45
SFA_AOKunfortunately the alternate CD is more problematic... doesn't recognise my network card OR the ICH8 connector01:45
Byanlansing: forum things?01:45
frtdxty01:45
Byanit's not a forum01:45
Byanit's a guide01:46
SFA_AOKunless you mean use it in a different way?01:46
Byanit's a full list on how to do certain thing01:46
Byanthings*01:46
lansingyah those forum sites from ubuntu01:46
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dranrebsorry to bother i tried everything i could, sudo apt-get build-dep ffmpeg01:46
dranrebE: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_multiverse_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)01:46
Byanthats not a forum, and you ask things that it specifically tells you in them...01:46
shriphanidranreb, sudo apt-get update01:47
dranrebdid that01:47
Byanlansing: I mean, look at this- http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Repositories01:47
Byanthats exactly how you do edit the sources.list01:47
dranrebdid that as well01:47
normeooskude: you know for the boot options bit, you meant that at the main screen as soon as the cd is booted dint u?01:47
oskudenormeo: yup01:48
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normeoi don't see what the problem is, my gentoo cd still boots, and that pc is in pretty good shape, ubuntu got problems with nvidia at all?01:48
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normeotheres not much installation related help on their website either, which is quite annoying01:50
oskudenormeo: hmm, how much ram do you have ?01:50
normeo512 in that one01:50
oskudenormeo: hmm, which image did you download ?01:51
normeoubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso01:51
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frtdxjust making sure .. will i be able to boot into xp if i install GRUB to the MRB?01:52
oskudenormeo: hmm...01:52
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frtdxMBR01:52
Byanfrtdx: yep01:52
frtdxty01:52
oskudefrtdx: yes, normally the ubuntu installer regonices windows and add a boot option for that01:52
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normeoinstalling linux always gets me stressed ill be back in 2 mins, nipping for a cig01:52
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Samuli^frtdx, you have windows on the first hard drive right?01:53
frtdxif something does go wrong .. i can just fix my boot record without reinstalling xp right?01:53
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frtdxyes c:\ fat3201:53
Alakazamz0rHe's gettin stressed installing Ubuntu?01:53
normeoindeed01:53
shriphanilol Alakazamz0r01:53
Alakazamz0rHate to see him install FreeBSD or Gentoo or something.01:53
Alakazamz0rlol01:53
normeoAlakazamz0r: i can install gentoo01:53
shriphaniwell gentoo have an installer now01:53
Alakazamz0ryea normeo can you use gentoo?01:53
Alakazamz0rohhh01:53
Alakazamz0rreeeally.01:53
normeoi don't use that crap installer of theirs01:54
frtdxAlakazamz0r:  have tried those on a vmware lol01:54
Alakazamz0ryea01:54
shriphanibut the concept of a gentoo live cd still goes over my head01:54
Alakazamz0ri installed gentoo ONCE like 4 years ago.01:54
Squirkapt and a bunch of things are complaining about my locale settings01:54
frtdxif something does go wrong .. i can just fix my boot record without reinstalling xp right?01:54
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lansingi still cant install java from terminal01:54
Squirkbut localegen seems to be building the right locales01:54
normeoAlakazamz0r: i said i can install it dint say ought about using it01:54
Alakazamz0rlol01:55
Alakazamz0rwhy'd you install it then.01:55
normeooskude: tnx for the help i gotta dash summart importants come up, ill probs be back later to ask for more help :P01:55
normeoAlakazamz0r: cos i got bored01:55
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Alakazamz0rlol01:55
Alakazamz0rword01:55
normeothen i needed windows back cos my mothers computer illiterate01:55
shriphanilansing, sudo apt-get update01:55
Samuli^squirk, maybe you should 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' <--- this will restart your daemons, se be warned.01:55
normeogtg anyway nice talking01:55
Alakazamz0rWell, Ubuntu is for the computer illiterate.01:55
lansingand it says W: GPG error: http://repository.debuntu.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 0E401:55
lansingafter i did update01:56
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Alakazamz0r!pubkey01:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pubkey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:56
Samuli^!gpg01:56
ubotugpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto01:56
BlueEaglelansing: Did you do !easysource?01:56
Alakazamz0rlansing, you have to import the pubkey01:56
lansingi know nothing of this program01:57
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shriphaniwait!!  http://repository.debuntu.org dapper01:57
SquirkSamuli^: That gave me a bunch of warnings (from perl, gtk, gdk) about unsupported locales, even after running it twice01:57
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shriphania german mirror01:57
arepiehello, who can help me with fglrx driveR?01:57
dranrebgoody i just solve mine, i use back the backup old copy of source.list and voila it worked01:57
BlueEagleubotu: tell arepie about ask01:57
BlueEagleubotu: tell arepie about anyone01:57
Samuli^squirk, :/01:57
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unfknblvbl!webcam01:58
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras01:58
arepieBlueEagle: check this out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26287/01:58
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SquirkI don't understand why nothing can load the locales -- /usr/lib/locale has all the built locales and they're readable01:59
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dxdemetriouIs there a program like pcanywhere that you can control a pc that is beside of router?01:59
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dranrebkrdc?02:00
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Alakazamz0rdxdemetriou, http://www.tightvnc.com/02:00
larsemilwhen starting gnome i get "Error while starting XKB-configuration" and my keyboard does not work as i want it to...02:00
arepieplease anyone check this out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26287/ , i've install fglrx driver, and my ATI control doesn't seems to be opened..02:00
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BlueEaglearepie: No, you misunderstand. I cannot help you. I am just advising you as to how to procede with your queries. :)02:01
dxdemetriouAlakazamz0r, I mean if there is a program that find a user and not the ip. I can't configure my router. I have found the logmein that works, but only for windows02:01
Alakazamz0rdxdemetriou, any longin that'll work for windows will work under linux.02:01
arepieafter install fglrx driver, my OpenGL is still mesa, how to change that to ATI ?02:01
Alakazamz0rthe router doesn't know the difference.02:01
oskudearepie: did you do change "ati" to "fglrx" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?02:02
arepieyes02:03
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arepieoskude: yes02:03
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oskudearepie: did you restart x ?02:03
arepieoskude:  i'll show you my xorg.conf02:03
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BlueEagle!samba02:04
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT02:04
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arepieoskude: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26288/ here it is02:04
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SFA_AOKsorry, was on the phone, gonna give my suggestion a try, thanks for the confirmation :)02:05
oskudearepie: remove (or comment) lines 170-17402:05
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arepieoskude: okey..02:05
fildohey whats smux guys02:05
compilerwriterSomone please quickly tell me how to mount a floppy.02:05
oskudearepie: well, actually that doesnt matter... as they are not loaded02:06
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arepieyea02:06
kryptozHi al02:06
arepiedo you know the problem?02:06
oskudearepie: did you restart x ?02:06
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arepieoskude: how to restart x ?02:07
oskudearepie: or even the whole system (atelast with nvidia drivers rebooting x is enough)02:07
compilerwriterHelp!  Someone please walk me through mounting a floppy.02:07
catalyticcan someone please help me install jdk onto ubuntu02:07
oskudearepie: in x press ctrl+alt+backspace02:07
RazeriousUbuntu freezes (while booting) when it's about to start the network. When I press ctrl+c to skip it Ubuntu freezes after logging in, while loading my desktop. Anyone have any idea how to fix this? How can I disable my wireless NIC? I've got a Linksys WMP54G (RT2500 chip) card (only got this problem after activating my wireless network in Ubuntu).02:07
catalytici was up till 4am this morning trying to get it to work02:07
oskude!floppy > compilerwriter02:07
arepieoskude: im on kubuntu actually02:07
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oskudearepie: should work there too02:07
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oskude!kubuntu > arepie02:07
compilerwriterin a terminal window  oskude?02:08
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arepieoskude: x mean console ?02:08
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oskudearepie: x windowing system is the graphical user interface (that kde uses in your case)02:08
Sonic|LaptopI think he figured it out :)02:08
oskudecompilerwriter: read what ubotu told you02:08
oskudecompilerwriter: ubotu should have tell you "To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone"02:09
ra21vihi..02:09
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arepieoskude: i've restart x02:09
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ra21vi*i got some prblem regarding my X*02:10
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oskudearepie: now check what fglrxinfo (or how itwas called) say ?02:10
arepieoskude: same output02:10
ra21viand i m working on a viral adv. studio02:10
arepieOpenGL is still mesa02:10
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ra21viso i got major problem.. icannt do blender with X02:11
oskudearepie: hmm, try looking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log if fglrx is even loaded02:11
ra21viany1 please help me regarding reinstalling and troubleshooting X02:11
TmWrk_Quilhrmm02:11
arepieoskude: i'll paste it.. hold on02:11
oskudera21vi: define "cannot do blender with x" ?02:11
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ra21viarepie: guess u wont paste here ")02:11
catalyticwhat tool can i use in ubuntu to format a second partition?02:11
ra21vioskude: i mean cann02:12
oskudera21vi: as "blender" is a 3d modelling/animation/game tool02:12
ra21vicannt do anything wihout blender 3d, and blender 3d cannt start without02:12
ra21viX02:12
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arepieoskude: here it goes http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26289/02:12
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oskudera21vi: i still dont understand whats your problem...02:12
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kidbuntuplease help me. my OPENOFFICE wont start02:13
ra21vioskude: ok let me explain in simple words :)02:13
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oskudearepie: hmm "WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found"02:13
timoHow do I disable hdparm in Grub?02:13
arepieoskude: how to repair it?02:13
ra21vioskude: actually i did install xgl for desktop refinement... replacing the original 810 xserver02:14
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oskudearepie: please pastebin output of "lspci"02:14
arepiehold on02:14
timosomething to add to menu.lst -list?02:14
iratikI have no clue what happened - but all the timestamps on the mysql server have shifted 6 hours negative - and my system clock is off by 6 hours as well - I looked on ubuntuguide.org and searched aroud - I just need to know the command to reset the time to the ntp servers ? (man ntpdate is way to kryptic)02:14
ZeiP_Hi. Is there a way to revert the config files of a package to their original state?02:14
ra21vioskude: and then i removed it when i got problem starting X02:14
oskudera21vi: youre using xgl atm ? i heard that made problems with some opengl tools and02:14
oskude!xgl > ra21vi02:14
arepieoskude: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26290/02:14
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ra21vioskude: now, after removing my XGL x-server and compiz part.... i m unable to start X02:15
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ra21viso i want to reinstall the X server for generic intel 81002:15
Dieterbewhere i can see all the available software? i can't find it on the website :/02:15
oskudera21vi: well, that would fit the #ubuntu-xgl support (i dont know xgl)02:15
ra21vioskude: can u guide me to the *x-server package name] 02:15
oskudearepie: do you have 2 gfx cards ?02:16
ra21vioskude: u didnt understand me02:16
ra21vithere is no XGL now02:16
ra21vii removed it02:16
oskudera21vi: xserver-xorg02:16
arepieno, i only have one02:16
kidbuntuplease help me. my OPENOFFICE wont start02:16
arepieoskude:  no, i only have one02:16
iratikI have no clue what happened - but all the timestamps on the mysql server have shifted 6 hours negative - and my system clock is off by 6 hours as well - I looked on ubuntuguide.org and searched aroud - I just need to know the command to reset the time to the ntp servers ? (man ntpdate is way to kryptic)02:16
oskudearepie: ok, sec02:16
ra21vioskude: r u sure02:16
TmWrk_Quilkidbuntu: please be more specific02:16
catalyticdoes anyone know how to get .jnlp 's to automatiaclly start in the java webstart?02:16
kidbuntuTmWrk_Quil: all of it won't start02:16
ra21vioskude: so shud i just "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg" and every thing will b fine02:16
ra21vilet me check it02:17
ra21vi:)02:17
iratikcatalytic: #!/path/to/java/web/start at the begining of the file?02:17
oskudearepie: hmm, do you have an external monitor/tv connected ?02:17
oskudearepie: i mean a second02:17
catalytichmm i mean if i download a .jnlp with firefox02:18
kidbuntuTmWrk_Quil: the spreadsheet the writer all of it wont start.02:18
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catalytichow do i make my system realise it is a .jnlp and automatically open javawebstart02:18
ra21vihow to start the X service in ubuntu without startx02:18
catalyticand start running it?02:18
timohoto disable hdparm- I made fatal mistakes with that file and now even grub won t start02:18
arepieoskude: i only have my monitor connected02:18
oskudearepie: hmm, the first error is (EE) fglrx(0): Hardware has already been locked.02:18
oskudearepie: and second (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable02:19
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ra21vitimo: u can boot ur system with some live cd, mount the / partition where ur that ubuntu is installed, and then access that file, /etc/fstab, edit it, and reboot02:19
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arepieoskude: how to solve that problem?02:19
ra21vioskude: do u have AIGLX runniung on ur system02:19
oskudera21vi: no, and never had, sorry02:20
ra21vilol02:20
iratikI realize there are people with much more pressing issues that need help - but I just need one command - How to reset the system clock with ntpdate (i've googled, i've ubuntulinux.org'ed, i even looked at man ntpdate and it was too  cryptic)02:20
bbraziliratik: sudo ntpdate02:20
ra21vioskude: ok, i too was trying to make my desktop funky, and fall in ditch and hurt my time and work02:20
ra21viwith XGL02:20
ra21vinever gonna try it again02:20
oskudearepie: this is weird (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found but the config says BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"02:20
RazeriousHow can I disable my wireless NIC when I haven't got access to my gnome desktop?02:20
lansingif got this updat pop up should i install them02:21
ra21vioskude: hey, how to restart the X service, i dont want startx02:21
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timothanks ravi02:21
ra21vioskude: i wnt to start it using Ubuntu service manager02:21
oskudera21vi: from terminal "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"02:21
ra21vitimo: :)02:21
SquirkRazerious: ifdown ra002:21
Squirkor similar02:21
oskudearepie: hmm this looks not so good (WW) fglrx(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum02:21
ra21vioskude: ok :)02:22
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ra21vilot like Gentoo does02:22
RazeriousSquirk: will that disable it from loading on startup as well?02:22
SquirkRazerious: no, only a one-off02:22
arepieoskude: i've googled, read wikis and how to averywhere, but i can't find my problems and i don't know how to solve it..02:22
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iratikHow do you reset the system clock to the correct time for your timezone on Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Server Version?02:22
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Razerioushow can I disable it from loading on startup?02:22
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SquirkRazerious: There's probably a command to do it, but you can edit /etc/network/interfaces02:23
sykes^I got 2 NTFS partitions I want to make linux partitions, so I can save stuff on them. How do I do that?02:23
oskudearepie: look lines 1046-1049 in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26289/ (seems like problem with the driver or your card) :/02:23
Razeriousthanks mate02:23
SquirkRazerious: "man interfaces" for the format02:23
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oskudesykes^: you delete them and create new partitions. or you change to type of the partitions and format over them02:24
lansingive got this pop up sayin that i got updates should i install them02:24
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sykes^oskude, Yeah, but where do I do that?02:24
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valehruCould anyone recommend a good AVI editing tool I could use in ubuntu?02:25
alumnohola02:25
boinkwhich .deb installs make-kpkg?02:25
oskudearepie: sorry, im out of ideas. maybe bad hardware or bad driver, or...02:25
ZeiP_How can I tell Ubuntu a process is not running? It wants to be stopping the process via init file all the time, but just won't understand that the process is not running.02:25
gordvalehru, try avidemux02:25
alumnoalguien habla espaol02:25
catalytichow do i fix broken packages and unmet dependencies?02:25
oskudesykes^: you could ask ati, they made the driver ;)02:25
iratikHow do you reset the system clock to the correct time for your timezone on Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Server Version?02:25
valehrugord, thx02:25
boinkalumo: aqui no habla espanol02:25
boink!tell alumno about es02:25
sykes^oskude, Um, for my harddrive? o.O02:25
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oskudesykes^: sorry ment arepie02:26
wahjavahi channel02:26
oskudearepie:  you could ask ati, they made the driver ;)02:26
sykes^oskude,  ok :P02:26
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Squirkboink: kernel-package02:26
wahjavaI'm trying to configure openssh server in ubuntu 6.0602:26
boinkta02:26
lansing?  question should i install updates if the pop up says i got updates02:26
ZeiP_How can I tell Ubuntu a process is not running? It wants to be stopping the process via init file all the time, but just won't understand that the process is not running.02:27
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oskudearepie: and, is that a real ati card or a cheap card with ati chip ?02:27
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kidbuntumy OPENOFFICE.org won't run. all of it. please help02:27
wahjavaI want to know is it possible to create authentication policies (for OpenSSH) based on Host02:27
alumnopor que no se habla espaol boink02:27
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sykes^oskude, How do I delete and create partitions then?02:27
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arepieoskude: it is a real ati card02:27
oskudesykes^: i mostly use cfdisk02:28
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oskudearepie: thats sad that it doesnt work then :(02:28
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sykes^oskude, *waves* im a noob *waves* :P02:28
wahjavalike if I login from its LAN, I can use password authentication, but if I login from world I must use pubkey authentication02:28
iratikalumno: por que todos que hablan espanol hablar en "#ubuntu-es"02:28
iratikHow do you reset the system clock to the correct time for your timezone on Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Server Version?02:28
pixelfreakywie heisst der deutsche ubuntu channel nomal?02:28
oskudearepie: sorry im really out ofideas, as the newest ati driver should work on your card (radeon9250+)02:28
iratikjoin #ubuntu-de02:28
wahjavaIs it possible ?02:28
pixelfreakydanke02:28
iratikits invite only tho02:29
boinkinvite only?02:29
alumnoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ok gracia sorry02:29
iratikThats what its telling me02:29
boinkiratik: dann frag mal auf Englisch :)02:29
pixelfreakyDas betreten von ubuntu-de erfordert einer einladung? *grbel*02:29
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boinkpixel: sieht so aus :/02:30
boinkaber hier kannst Du auf Englisch fragen, kein Problem02:30
pixelfreakyhab ich was falsch gemacht war doch vor 10 min noch drin!?02:30
oskudepixelfreaky: omg, that shouldnt be!?02:30
kidbuntumy OPENOFFICE.org won't run. all of it. please help02:30
sykes^oskude, If I want to delete and hda1 and hda5 and create then in one big linux partition, how do I do that?02:30
oskude!timezoneconf > iratik02:30
iratikThank you oskude02:30
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oskudesykes^: just like you said :) delete those partitions and make a new one02:31
iratikoskude: please don't tell me thats an X program - its a terminal program right?02:31
joltIm having problems with GLX not knowing what my video card is....02:31
oskudeiratik: i hope i just did "apt-cache search timezone"02:31
joltOpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation02:31
joltOpenGL renderer string: unknown board/AGP/SSE202:31
joltOpenGL version string: 2.1.0 NVIDIA 96.2502:31
oskudeiratik: you can get more info about that package with "apt-cache show timezoneconf"02:32
joltIts causing problems with apps not detecting it properly02:32
sykes^oskude, Yeah but theres a problem: I dunno what to type02:32
iratikwell the timezone I could care less about than getting the time right - whatever command produces the output 'syncing with time server' on startup (but i can't restart, too many users)02:32
oskudesykes^: ah, sec02:32
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oskudesykes^ 83 for ext302:32
sykes^Weird, X crashes sometimes02:33
sykes^I didnt see everything oskude02:33
oskudesykes^:  83 for ext302:33
sykes^oskude, um02:33
kidbuntumy OPENOFFICE.org won't run. all of it. please help02:33
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kidbuntumy OPENOFFICE.org won't run. all of it. please help02:33
kidbuntumy OPENOFFICE.org won't run. all of it. please help02:33
kidbuntumy OPENOFFICE.org won't run. all of it. please help02:33
LoRezWarning: `kidbuntu' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.02:33
oskudesykes^: you asked about type, so 83 (linux) is the type for ext3 partitions02:34
binfalseyo02:34
eucalrehey02:34
iratikkidbuntu: Are there any error messages that are shown on the screen when you try to run OpenOffice?02:34
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sykes^oskude, no, I asked "what" to type, I have no idea :P02:34
kidbuntuiratik: nope it just wont02:34
oskudesykes^: oh... do you have only one hd ?02:34
cafuegokidbuntu:  run 'oowriter' in a terminal.02:34
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sykes^oskude, No, I got 2 x 80 gb02:35
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oskudesykes^: ok, and where is the disk you want to partition ?02:35
iratikkidbuntu: Its difficult to fix a car when the check-engine light comes on and it wont start right? - You have to know what is happenning that is going wrong when you try to start up - open a terminal , run oowriter, and pastebin any messages that come up02:35
LSD`what do you have to install to get mp3 support?02:35
eucalreI'll think about it02:35
binfalseconfidential02:35
cafuego!restrictedformats > LSD`02:35
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sykes^oskude, err, gonna try to find that out, hang on02:36
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oskudesykes^: you can allso say on which ide bus and if master or slave02:36
kidbuntucafuego: a lot of txt appeared http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26295/ see the error02:36
catalyticcan anyone point me in the right direction for getting jre, or jdk or any form of java installed on ubuntu?02:36
oskudesykes^: but you can look with "sudo fdisk -l"02:36
sykes^oskude, Talk to me like I'm a 3 year old please :P02:36
TmWrk_Quilanyone here know of a service similar to dynip.org that will allow me to set a resolvable hostname for my ubuntu box02:36
catalyticthe only reason i installed it on this machine was to practice wrting java02:36
sykes^oskude, ok02:37
kidbuntuiratik: a lot of txt appeared http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26295/ see the error02:37
cafuegocatalytic: install sun-java5-jre from the `universe' repository.02:37
oskudesykes^: hello my dear, wanna lolly ? :P02:37
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sykes^oskude, lol02:37
TmWrk_Quilor is there a simple apt-get install dynip-similar-service that i can just snatch out of thin air?02:37
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oskudesykes^: i think "sudo fdisk -l" should print all your disks and partitions02:37
ZeiP_How can I force Ubuntu init script to understand that freeradius is no longer running, or even installed? It just keeps trying to restart it, and fails at stopping.02:37
sykes^oskude, Yeah hang on02:37
catalyticsun-java5-jre02:37
catalyticcatalytic@nix:~$ sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre02:38
catalyticReading package lists... Done02:38
catalyticBuilding dependency tree... Done02:38
catalyticE: Couldn't find package sun-java5-jre02:38
catalyticcatalytic@nix:~$02:38
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kidbuntucafuego: do you have a knack of it?02:38
catalytichow do i specify the repo?02:38
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catalyticand what repo should i specify?02:38
SquirkThere's something broken with my compiled locales -- setting "LC_COLLATE=C" avoids the issue02:38
sykes^oskude, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26296/02:38
cafuegocatalytic: universe afaik02:38
cafuegoor was it multiverse, lemme see02:38
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Squirkbut I cannot figure out how to repair it02:38
stjepanhi02:38
catalyticmultiverse i think02:38
catalyticand i have tried that already02:38
cafuegomultiverse02:38
catalyticbut it keeps telling me it has broken dependencies02:38
oskudesykes^: hmm, it shows only one hd...02:38
cafuegosun-java5-jre - Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.002:39
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cafuegoWhich broken dependencies?02:39
catalyticare you using apt-get cafuego?02:39
oskudesykes^: but is that the hd you want to repartition ?02:39
sykes^oskude, I have 2, and they worked in windows02:39
catalyticor the synaptic package manager?02:39
cafuegocatalytic: Yup, ubuntu 6.1002:39
sykes^oskude, Yeah02:39
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catalyticok, so i type02:39
cafuegocatalytic: well, it works fine in both, here02:39
sykes^oskude, But I need to finish copying the music from the NTFS partition first, takes like 20 more min :P02:39
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catalyticapt-get install sun-java5-jre02:40
catalytic?02:40
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iratikalright - thats what i'm talking about - i've figured out that your openoffice is all screwed up. All I could imagine to do is to completely remove open office and reinstall it or update the whole thing - i looked at the packages and can identify the core package - maybe .. "apt-get update openoffice.org-core, openoffice.org-writer"02:40
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stjepanI want to keep my ubuntu system up to date. I used archlinux till now. With archlinux I can keep my system up to date by using the "current" branch. SUSE can also be updated. Why ubuntu can't? I want GNOME 2.16, I want GTK 2.10, I want xorg 7.1 in my ubuntu...... can I somehow make my ubuntu system up-to-date???02:40
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cafuegocatalytic: yup02:40
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oskudesykes^: ok... when its ready, you can do "sudo cfdisk /dev/hda" to start play with the partitions, but dont fear, all changes you make in cfdisk, are only then active when you press [ Write ] 02:40
catalyticit cant find it02:40
catalyticand when i search for sun-java5-jre02:41
cafuegostjepan: You can, but that means running non-tested and unsupported software.02:41
catalyticin synaptic02:41
catalytici get no results02:41
catalyticwhich repo do i add the multiverse flag to?02:41
stjepancafuego: edgy?02:41
sykes^oskude, Ok, and I should make it to ext3, right?02:41
cafuegostjepan: Of course, you could wait until 6.10 is released in 2 weeks time and use that02:41
bainhowdy .. I'm having a very wierd problem .. I had a working hoardy .. and have installed dapper .. on the live CD networking is working fine .. aftre install network is not working .. eth0 comes up and ip addresses is correct .. RX and TC is sending .. no errors .. but can't ping or anythign02:41
stjepancafuego: isn't edgy now stable enough?02:41
LSD`stjepan: ubuntu follows a similar "old and stale" philosophy as its debian grand-daddy it seems02:41
cafuegocatalytic: Just append 'multiverse' to the normal dapper repo line.02:41
kidbuntuiratik: doesnt work02:41
Alakazamz0rbain, type dhclient02:41
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oskudesykes^: forgot what you wanted to do with the partition... (but there are allso drivers for windows to read and write ext3 partitions)02:42
stjepanLSD`: so sad.... and bad ..... :(02:42
cafuegostjepan: Try and see02:42
iratikkidbuntu - reinstall ubuntu - that should fix it02:42
tiredbonesI just updated to dapper and would like to get to the screen for setting the properties for evolution. What path should I use?02:42
sykes^osk I want to delete the NTFS parts and make it into 1 linux part02:42
Antoni1hey, somebody knows the meaning of02:42
Antoni1CONFIG_ACPI_TOSHIBA=m ?02:42
Antoni1more than anything, I would like to know the meaning of the "m" there.02:42
sykes^osk I want to delete the NTFS parts and make it into 1 linux part02:42
sykes^oskude,  I want to delete the NTFS parts and make it into 1 linux part02:42
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cafuegoLSD`: Not quite, Ubuntu releases a month or so after Gnome, twice a year, so it stays up to date.02:42
kidbuntuiratik: ohoo.. no way..i've already invested so much time to this. and thats it? is there any other way you can help me02:42
bainAlakazamz0r: how is tryignt op get dhcp going to solve the problem ?02:42
stjepancafuego: is ubuntu crazy at considering stable stuff, just like debian is? For debian is stable something really really really old and stable. Is the ubuntu story similiar to debian's one?02:43
catalyticdo i need to add an authentication key to access the multiverse repo?02:43
oskudesykes^: yup, then i would recommend ext302:43
cafuegoLSD`: But updating all software the moment a new version is released leads to unmainaintability.02:43
iratikkidbuntu: Join #openoffice.org02:43
Alakazamz0rwell if you have a dhcp server on your router i'll pull the info off it bain02:43
Alakazamz0ris it NAT or DHCP?02:43
catalyticwhat repo?02:43
ZeiP_How can I force Ubuntu init script to understand that freeradius is no longer running, or even installed? It just keeps trying to restart it, and fails at stopping.02:43
Nem1How Can i play window's games on Linux (Ed)ubuntu???02:43
kidbuntuiratik: how?02:43
cafuegostjepan: No, and I think you have the wrong idea about Debian.02:43
iratikkidbuntu: "/join #openoffice.org"02:43
sykes^oskude, Ok, ill be back in 20 min. But can I talk to you again if I need some help?02:43
catalyticcafuego what repo's do u have listed in synaptic repo manager?02:43
bainAlakazamz0r: ok .. assuming I've not tried this .. dhcp is not being passed to the machine .. network is still not functioning02:43
oskudesykes^: but wait, you cant make those 2 ntfs partitions to 1 partition (without deleting all partitions)02:43
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sykes^oskude, Ok, so 2 ext3 then?02:43
cafuegostjepan: Debian doesn't add new versions to stable because it would *break* things for many users.02:44
Alakazamz0rbain, are you hooked up to a router?02:44
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oskudesykes^: yes, cause the one ntfs is a primary partitiona and the other one is a logical partition02:44
cafuegocatalytic: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse02:44
Nem1How Can i play window's games on Linux (Ed)ubuntu???02:44
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catalyticok cheers02:44
catalyticill try that one now02:44
ZeiP_Nem1: Wine and other emulators work with some.02:44
sykes^oskude, Ah ok. Ill be back in 20 min to fix that, and ill bug you if I need help :P02:44
iratikNem1: VMWare or Wine - google 'windows emulation ubuntu'02:44
iratikIs there a place where I can go to talk about timezone issues - i've been debugging this for over 41 minutes now, I really need to reset the timezone from whatever 'BST' is to 'CST' and I just totally have no clue how to do it, and i've googled the issue to death - i'm going nuts here, and I just needto set the timezone (yeah timezoneconf is a GUI program, i can't run it on a server) Can someone point me to where I can find help, or doe02:44
sykes^oskude, Thanks btw02:44
oskudesykes^: roger, youre welcome02:45
cafuegoiratik: 'sudo tzconfig'02:45
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iratikWhat? It says i'm set to US/Central!02:45
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cafuegoHow rude!02:45
iratikcafuego: thanks, its just not what i expected.02:46
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bainAlakazamz0r: yes .. I have a firewall working .. connected to a switch .. which is working .. the hoardy installation was working .. with a static ip address .. installed dapper .. with same ipstatic ip address .. and it doens't work .. however the static IP I configured during the live CD for installationa nd backup workewd fine02:46
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ZeiP_Do Ubuntu init scripts save the software state (running or not) somewhere else than the pid file?02:46
iratikcafuego: I figured - the timzone setting was the problem , but it may be the universal "UTC=yes" setting, but i forget where that is02:46
Squirkiratik: CST = (US) Central Standard Time?02:46
iratikYep02:46
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catalytichttp://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-commercial/Release: Unable to find expected entry  restricted/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)02:47
Alakazamz0rbain, can you ping an IP?02:47
bainAlakazamz0r: no02:47
Alakazamz0rcan you ping your gateway?02:47
cafuegocatalytic: comment out that line02:47
tiredbonesI just updated to dapper and would like to get to the screen for setting the properties for evolution. What path should I use to get to these screens?02:47
Alakazamz0rput the output of ifconfig in a pastebin for me.02:47
TmWrk_Quildid anyone see the question i asked earlier re: dynip?02:48
bainI've rebooted using the live CD02:48
bainhold on02:48
cafuegoiratik: grep tells me /etc/default/rcS02:48
iratikIS there a daemon I can restart to reload the settings in '/etc/default/rcS'02:48
LSD`LSD 1, Free software fascists: 0 >:)02:48
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LSD`now, to get xvid, divx and all those niceties going >:)02:48
iratikcafuego: UTC=no02:48
catalyticeh comment out?02:48
TmWrk_Quilyou'll have to excuse me, i'm still a bit new to ubuntu and debian in general, but i'm looking for an easy way to install a dynip style  service on a box so i dont have to remember the ip address02:48
iratikcafuego: It was formelly set to yes02:48
bainAlakazamz0r: ip addres is 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 default gateway is 192.168.0.250 kernel module is tulip for the davicom network card02:48
catalyticim using the synaptic repo manager02:48
cafuegoiratik: /etc/rcS.d/S50hwclock.sh02:49
Squirkiratik: /etc/default/rcS02:49
cafuegocatalytic: prefix it with #02:49
iratiktoo late - i just decided to restart, so I could reload /etc/default/rcS02:49
cafuegoOr just disable it02:49
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Squirkwhoops02:49
Alakazamz0rbain, you sure thats the gateway.02:49
cafuegobad iratik02:49
antarexhello to everybody02:49
Alakazamz0rAnd have you tried another network cable?02:49
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iratikcafuego: I don't know how - but that being wrong apparently throws time off all the way back to December 31, 1969 - all timestamp's are off by 6 hours02:50
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Lilandrawhat java do you have to use if you have a PPC?02:50
cafuegoiratik: yeah, Jan 1, 1970 in UTC (epoch) was 1969 in the US :-)02:50
oskudeTmWrk_Quil: if you do "apt-cache search dyndns" you get a list of some tools that could do that02:50
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cafuegoiratik: Just run ntpdate to set the time right02:51
kidbuntuwhy does GXINE always makes a flick every few seconds when watching a DVD on a fullscree mode02:51
iratikCafuego: The time issue has been resolved - IT says Wed Oct 11 07:50:49 CDT02:51
bainAlakazamz0r: yes .. I've been working with linux for 12 years ... I have rebooted with dapper CD and in live system .. I can ping and everything is working fine ..02:51
morryeHow do you copy directories to root only folders?02:51
kidbuntuwhy does GXINE always makes a flick every few seconds when watching a DVD on a fullscreen mode02:51
iratikI appreciate it guys - i realize that helping people can be stressful here02:51
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cafuegoLilandra: The IBM one (has a sort-of-working browser plugin) is a manual download & install. Check the wiki.02:51
Schalkenwhats the difference between AIGLX and X with the 'composite extension'?02:51
Lilandrathanks cafuego02:51
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tiredbonesI just updated to dapper and would like to get to the screen for setting the properties for evolution. What path should I use to get to these screens?02:52
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catalyticthanks cafuego i think thats done it, i found it now and I am installing it02:53
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catalyticcan you suggest a partition tool i should install as well?02:53
oskudeTmWrk_Quil: and btw, youre talking about "internet" ips, not "local" ips ?02:53
kidbuntuwhy does GXINE always makes a flick every few seconds when watching a DVD on a fullscreen mode02:53
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ra21vihi02:54
LSD`kidbuntu: your pc is too slow?02:54
ra21vigot a problem... regarding Xserver02:54
ra21viany1 listening to me02:54
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Alakazamz0rbain, if you've been working w/linux for 12 years, you should be able to fix a problem like this.02:54
disasmra21vi: details?02:54
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ra21vii need to solve it , else i will miss my deadline02:54
Alakazamz0rno offence.02:54
ra21vidisasm: actually i installed XGL, and then removed it, as it was too heavy for my system intel 915 chip...02:55
kidbuntuLSD` how come if i play DVD in mplayer. no flick shows up on a fullscreen.02:55
ra21vinow i m  having problem srating my Xserver..02:55
ra21viGDM quits compaining /path/to/Xserver/Xgl :0 :0 --fullscreen" not found02:55
ra21vithoug i have removed my xgl02:55
ra21vibut still its path somewhere in executable string02:55
disasmra21vi: try Xorg -configure thats probly easier than troubleshooting the xorg.conf file02:56
ra21vidisasm: ^^02:56
noneAlakazamz0r: working with, not on.  that just means hes been in the presence of routers with linux on them02:56
oskudetiredbones: hmm, you mean the evolution email client ? can remember ubuntu installer ever asking properties for that...02:56
bainAlakazamz0r: the point I was trying to make is this is not a configuration or simple problem .. and having used linux for a long time does not mean I know everything .. just more then a beginner .. and asking me to check the beginner things is going to lead nowhere.02:56
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Alakazamz0rbain, what do you think it coould be?02:56
disasmra21vi: also, if you reconfigure Xorg, and it fails, make sure your mouse device is correct02:56
oskudetiredbones: *cant02:56
ra21vidisasm: can u tell me something in text mode to configure GDM.conf02:56
Alakazamz0rlol none02:56
nonelol02:56
Alakazamz0rbain, it may be the module... thats the only thing i could think of02:56
kidbuntuwhy does GXINE always makes a flick every few seconds when watching a DVD on a fullscreen mode02:56
Alakazamz0ror your routing is jacked up02:56
Pinkle_Rosehello02:57
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ra21vihey Everybuddy02:57
bainAlakazamz0r: if I knew .. I would not be here asking for others what the problem could be ...02:57
ra21vihelp me out02:57
Pinkle_Roseis able to install fbsplash on 2.6.15 kernel?02:57
morryeHow do you copy Directories?02:57
ra21vii need to sort it out02:57
Alakazamz0rbain, im just saying think about it.02:57
tiredbonesoskude, when you first click on evolution it ask foe the in and out server names. I entered the wrong one. Now I want to correct it.02:57
Alakazamz0rif i think hard enough, most the time i can correct the problem myself.02:57
ra21vii m just going to miss my Deadline to submit my final animation work02:57
ra21vi:(02:57
oskudetiredbones: ah ok, sec02:57
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ra21vijust cuz i played a lil with Xgl02:58
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bainAlakazamz0r: thanks for showing me the great support ubuntu community shows to users ..02:58
catalyticwhats the easiest way to know what version of ubuntu you are running?02:58
ra21viany X-server expert here :)02:58
BigChirvcatalytic, Ctrl+Alt+F1 :-)02:58
Alakazamz0rbain, what do you want me to do man, magicaly fix it?02:58
catalyticthat sounds like bitter resentment bain02:58
baincatalytic: cat /etc/issue02:58
ra21viprobabaly the question is wrong02:58
nonera21vi: what does the flicker look like02:58
p_mashocatalytic: system > About Ubuntu02:58
ra21vi:))02:58
catalyticlol02:58
Alakazamz0rIm TRYING to help you, and you're treating me like im a moron for checking the simple things.02:58
tiredbonescatalytic, lsb_release -a02:58
catalytic3 different ways02:58
ra21vinone: no flickers02:58
catalytic402:59
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p_mashogot an update this morning ofo php 5.1.2 ? strange as php is on 5.1.6 ? anyone else experienced this ?02:59
ra21viany1 here02:59
ra21viplease guide me to the solution02:59
Alakazamz0rdont tell me he got all pissy and left.02:59
catalyticheh02:59
catalytici tried the system>about ubuntu optino03:00
nonera21vi: lol sorry i read the different question and thought i read ur name next to  it03:00
catalyticwhich i guess is opening a help service03:00
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catalyticbut whenever i open the help file03:00
catalyticthe computer slows to a grinding hault03:00
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oskudetiredbones: hmm, cant find how to reopen that "wizard" ... try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall evolution" (if thats not enough, do "sudo apt-get --purge remove evolution" and then install it again)03:00
oskudetiredbones: or maybe its enough when you delete the folder ~/.evolution03:01
ra21vibored03:01
tiredbonesoskude, are you having a hard time find it. I couldn't see it anywheres.03:01
ra21vino one is getting my problem03:01
ra21vithough i m in urgent03:01
Pinkle_Roseis able to install fbsplash on 2.6.15 kernel?03:01
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catalyticthen u should of bought a product with 24 / 7 support hotline03:02
Alakazamz0rLOL03:02
Alakazamz0rLOL03:02
oskudetiredbones: didnt find anything in manpage (Except -c Start Evolution by activating the desired component.)03:02
Alakazamz0rword catalytic03:02
oskudetiredbones: but that doesnt seem to include "wizard", or its called something other03:02
ra21vidoes that mean i m really gonna miss my deadline03:02
ra21vithats not fair03:03
tiredbonesoskude, thanks.03:03
ra21viwell if this is such.. then03:03
ra21viok I accept it...03:03
oskudera21vi: i hope you where aware that xgl is stil alpha version!03:03
ra21vioskude: no sorry i was not03:03
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ra21vibut realy i did mistake03:03
ra21via big mistake03:03
ra21vii played but didn't knew that would cost me this much03:04
sykes^oskude, Ok done now, what did you say I should do?03:04
oskudera21vi: you could try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop" but will propably take (too?) long...03:04
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ra21vioskude: its just Xserver problem03:04
ra21viand i m down just of this simple problem03:05
oskudesykes^: sudo cfdisk /dev/hda03:05
ra21vii cannt figure it out oskude03:05
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sykes^oskude, Hang on, found something here.. ill show you03:05
oskudera21vi: sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg ?03:05
sykes^oskude, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26299/ check there now03:05
ra21vioskude: let me try.. but i guess it wont help me  :-(03:06
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sykes^oskude, hdb1 is NTFS right now, right?03:06
oskudesykes^: yup03:06
sykes^oskude, Ok, I want to make that ext3 too03:06
profoX`I have a big problem (as you can see here https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/courier-authlib/+bug/64615) is there a way to let me do an apt-get upgrade or anything.. it always shows an error no matter what I try with dpkg or apt-get03:06
ra21vii dont know why developers cannt focus to make things easy03:06
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ra21viLinux on Desktop seems far away03:07
sykes^oskude, I get a error when I type  sudo cfdisk /dev/hda03:07
LSD`ra21vi: tell me about it03:07
oskudesykes^: then on that drive you do "sudo cfdisk /dev/hdb" (but you can allso use System>Administration>Disks"03:07
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ra21viLSD`: forget it, sorry buddy.. i m just out of my mind03:07
profoX`ra21vi: no its not far away :) its everywhere in my house03:07
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profoX`depends what you seek for in an OS03:08
oskudera21vi: you used alpha software! so your broke it!03:08
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profoX`and what software you need/can miss03:08
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catalytichow can i kill aservice?03:08
catalyticor list services first03:08
tfrS tu polacy?03:08
catalyticthen choose one to kill03:08
oskudera21vi: just undo what you did to get xgl...03:08
TmWrk_Quiloskude: i know that, i'm just trying to find the best way to go about doing it - i know what i want to do - i just don't know the best practice to do it on ubuntu - so i'll ask again, is there some sort of apt-get install for a dynip like service - or must it all be done manually03:08
ra21viprofoX`: ya, u seem to grasp only sentences, niot the meaning inside03:08
catalyticthe help file is stil lgoing crazy03:08
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LSD`ra21vi: debian-based distro make it slightly more difficult by placing licencing restrictions on stuff windows users take for granted like MP3 and whatnot03:08
profoX`ra21vi: euhm yes03:08
ra21vioskude: actually i did intall XGL-xserver graphics03:08
oskudeTmWrk_Quil: as i said, "apt-cache search dyndns" shows you tools that you can install...03:09
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ra21vioskude: and then made a complete cut and paste in /etc/X.../gdm.conf03:09
berenthow to login as invisible on gaim03:09
oskudesykes^: mind pastenbin the error (with command)03:09
ra21vii didnt even touhed my xorg.conf03:09
sykes^oskude, the error is on Swedish03:09
oskudera21vi: and hopefully made backups of files you modified ?03:09
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oskudesykes^: sec03:09
berenthow to login as invisible on gaim yahoo03:10
oskudesykes^: you can get errors temporarly in eglish too, but i forgot...03:10
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sykes^oskude, Oh, and I tried to formate hda1 with the Disk thing, but I can aktivate it now03:10
ra21vioskude: there i did the biggest mistake, i wont forget in my life... i forgot to take backup of configs03:10
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oskudera21vi: and we should pay for your mistakes ? ;)03:10
oskudera21vi: try "LANG=en_EN;sudo cfdisk /dev/hda" (just a wild guess)03:11
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oskudera21vi: sorry, ment sykes^ q03:11
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catalyticis there a way to reinstall the help service, everytime i go to use it, my computers hard drive goes mental for about 5 mins03:11
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projhey all. I can't get my mind around how to pass arguments to m4 can some one expand upon the section "INVOKING m4" in the manual03:12
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projit will be greatly appreciated.03:12
asdhey, how can i as root give ownership of all files in a folder and it's subfolders to another user?03:12
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sykes^oskude, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26300/03:12
Dr_williscatalytic,  Help service?03:12
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ra21vioskude: ya :-)) ... and then mkfs.reiserfs /dev/hda03:12
oskudesykes^: omg it worked ?03:12
catalyticthe red and white life buoy thing03:13
ra21vioskude: that would have solve my problem completely03:13
Dr_willisasd,  chown, chmod commands.03:13
oskudesykes^: darn, that doesnt sound good :(03:13
ra21vioskude: just kidding03:13
catalytici went to click system then about ubuntu03:13
catalyticwhichi opens it as well i think03:13
catalyticand i can hardly use the comptuer03:13
catalytichappened last night as well03:13
BigChirvcatalytic, try to speed up the disc access enabling DMA transfers03:13
oskudesykes^: what was the last think you did with that partition table ?03:13
berenthow to login as invisible on gaim yahoo03:13
berent??03:13
catalytici only have a 10 gig HD03:13
sykes^oskude, I formated hda5 with the admin > disk thing, but I cant aktivate it after03:13
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catalyticwith ubuntu installed on the first 5 gig03:14
sykes^oskude, um, I think I messed around in it when I installed Ubuntu03:14
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oskudesykes^: did you delete and create partitions ? did you reboot after that ? its recommended to reboot after modifying partitions...03:14
catalyticthe second 5 gig is unfomatted at them oment03:14
sykes^oskude, I think so03:14
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sykes^oskude, But we can delete all parts except hda3 (where ubuntu is), it doesnt matter03:15
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oskudesykes^: well, then :) but, hmm...03:15
ra21vioskude: tellme one thing, is there any option to remove the xorg serve and gdm completely with its all config ans users settings files03:15
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oskudera21vi: sudo apt-get remove --purge (removes and purges/deletes the config files)03:16
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oskudera21vi: i lost your fdisk -l output...03:16
ra21vioskude: and when i will reinstall, will i get the same config, as i get when installing the fersh xorg by ubuntu CD03:16
catalytici want to format the second 5 gig and set it as a scratch disk03:17
catalyticbut not sure where to start doing that03:17
oskudesykes^: sorrym ment again ra21vi: i lost your fdisk -l output...03:17
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oskudera21vi: yes, for the packages you --purge and then install03:17
ra21vioskude: so will i have to reconfig the xserver03:18
tiredbonesoskude,  I tried deleting ~/.evoulution, but when I start it the wizards for setting it up  don't show.03:18
oskudesykes^: nvm, found it03:18
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oskudetiredbones: then i can only think of "sudo apt-get --install reinstall evolution" or the other one03:19
sykes^oskude, gonna try to reboot, brb03:19
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tiredbonesoskude,  ok thanks.03:20
ZeiP_http://mureakuha.com/paste/?eb2e5414a7f097a5e5dff0459f68b1a9 -- how can I fix this?03:20
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CVirusAnybody succeeded in getting the Broadcom 4311 wireless card to work ?03:20
babwe203:20
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dirtyomletCVirus: yes03:20
CVirusdirtyomlet: you ?03:20
oskudetiredbones: where the other solution could be "sudo apt-get --purge remove evolution" and the "sudo apt-get install evolution", that atleast should work03:21
dirtyomletyes, did it last night actually03:21
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dirtyomlethold on, i still have the exact instructions i used03:21
dirtyomletused the fwcutter and yanked the windows firmware03:21
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CVirusdirtyomlet: please find them ... I've been trying to get it working for a month now03:21
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CVirusdirtyomlet: is it a laptop ?03:21
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dirtyomletyes03:21
dirtyomletmy dell inspiron 130003:21
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CVirusdirtyomlet: you used ndiswrapper or the kernel module ?03:22
dirtyomletkernel module03:22
ZeiP_Do my rows ever make it to the channel?03:22
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CVirusdirtyomlet: what kernel version ?03:22
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dirtyomletapt-get fwcutter, use the program on the windows driver...restarted, and BAM03:22
dirtyomletit worked03:22
dirtyomlethttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18517403:22
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dirtyomletthere it is man03:22
kidbuntuhow can i let XINE play DVD's03:22
kidbuntuhow can i let XINE play DVD's?03:22
armoured_bearhey all03:23
ra21viwhat is the command to config X03:23
dirtyomletif it doesn't work on the first try, try the alternative drivers he lists, i ended up having to use a driver that did NOT come with my notebook03:23
projnever mind. a little debuggin did wonders (strange that eh? :)  )03:23
oskudera21vi: sudo dpkg-reconfire xserver-xorg03:23
oskudera21vi: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:23
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catalyticcan anyone suggest a good partition formatting app?03:24
ra21vioskude: kool, u r my torch to in the night dear03:24
ra21vi;)03:24
oskudecatalytic: mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdax ? what format do you need ?03:24
CVirusdirtyomlet: is this the driver you've used R115321.EXE ?03:24
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dirtyomletno03:25
dirtyomlethold on, i'll show you exactly03:25
oskudecatalytic: type mkfs.[2 times tab]  and youll see all available formats03:25
dirtyomletits a bcmwl5.sys, but its one he gives you a link to03:25
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dirtyomlethttp://sidulus.textdrive.com/bcmwl5sys.zip03:25
dirtyomletthere, that's the exact one i used03:26
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kidbuntuhow can i let XINE play DVD's?03:26
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dirtyomletgxine03:26
sykes^How come I cant aktivate a partition after I format it to ext3 in "Disks"?03:26
armoured_bearsorry to bother you guys but can I PM somebody about having a problem with Ubuntu crashing on me when im using programs like FireFox and the Rhythm Box?03:26
oskude!dvd > kidbuntu03:26
sykes^activate03:26
catalyticwhat format is the standard ubuntu install?03:26
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catalytici want a windows box to be able to read it as well03:27
dirtyomletits an iso03:27
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armoured_bearor is there a help channel for stuff like that?03:27
oskudesykes^: so, you want only ubuntu on hda ? is that a fresh install ? as i would suggest deleting all aprtitions... as it looks ver weird and has a windows extended partition...03:27
dirtyomletwindows can, ofcourse, read it03:27
catalytic?03:27
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catalyticthis computer has no cd drive, no usb03:28
oskudecatalytic: ext3 is "standard" under ubuntu, and there are allso drivers for windows to read write ext303:28
sykes^oskude, ok I'lldo that, but I have fixed som resolution stuff in this installation, so ill have to ask for help again03:28
Nintii|2I can't access my NTFS partitions from normal windows/dos after I installed Ubuntu03:28
catalytici stuck two files in c:/boot and hacked grubbed to boot from it03:28
catalyticthen reinstalled it over the top03:28
Nintii|2they show up in Ubuntu, but I can't acess them03:28
catalyticok03:28
oskudesykes^: you could format hdb1 first and backup your data and config files there03:28
catalyticand the hda03:28
eucalrehello03:28
binfalsehello03:28
sykes^It's hd3 I got the data on03:28
armoured_bearhey03:28
catalytici need to find the hd number for the unformatted partition right?03:29
sykes^oskude, I mean hdb303:29
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sykes^oskude, a screw it, I can get new music if I need it03:29
oskudesykes^: the last info i have is only hdb1 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26299/03:29
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kidbuntuoskude: do i have to install a plugin just to let it play DVD's after fresh install like other media players?03:29
sykes^oskude, rebooting now and gonna clean both hdds and make a clean install on hda03:29
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catalyticwhats the hda03:29
sykes^oskude, What size should I take on the swap?03:30
eucalreout of interest03:30
binfalseno03:30
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oskudekidbuntu: i never played dvds on pc (why should i?) try here http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html03:30
oskudesykes^: never more than 1gb03:30
sykes^Ok03:30
sykes^bbl03:30
BigChirvcatalytic, the 1st IDE device.03:30
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kidbuntuoskude: cause i dont have DVD players. i watch dvds on my computer03:30
catalytici have one ide03:30
oskudesykes^: i gotta go home in 30min, ill be maybe later on, or tomorrow03:30
catalyticwith two partitions03:30
ra21vioskude: ok tell me something more03:31
catalytici need to format the second one03:31
BigChirvcatalytic, then hda is the 1st and only ide device you have. :-)03:31
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catalyticok03:31
oskudekidbuntu: then continue to ask here, or read the docs ubotu send you03:31
ra21vioskude: my xserver error reports to fail to load driver 810 and wacom03:31
ra21viso what t do now03:31
ra21vioskude: ^03:31
catalyticthat command  mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda03:31
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BigChirvcatalytic, The partitions on the device are named hda1 hda2, etc03:31
catalyticis that going to start formatting straight away or will it give me some sort of dialog03:31
catalyticah ok03:31
catalytici go into dev/03:32
oskudera21vi: do you have wacom tablet ? (i allso wonder why every dapper has that installed there, even when you dont have a wacom tablet)03:32
wickedpuppy!samba03:32
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT03:32
POVaddctcatalytic: cat /proc/partitions03:32
catalyticand i can see hda, hda1, hda2, and hda503:32
ra21vioskude: no its not, i will commnet that code03:32
ra21vioskude: but wat about the 810 driver.. which package has this one03:32
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catalyticcatalytic@nix:/dev$ cat proc/partitions03:32
catalyticcat: proc/partitions: No such file or directory03:32
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POVaddctcatalytic: then the second partition is probably hda5 (logical partition inside hda2)03:32
oskudera21vi: xserver-xorg-driver-i81003:33
light_!SWAT03:33
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT03:33
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POVaddctcatalytic: cat /proc/partitions   (with a slash before proc)03:33
ra21vioskude: ok03:33
catalyticso i should use mkfs.ext3 /dev/hd503:33
catalyticthen i should be able to mount that drive and start accessing it?03:33
boink!tell boink about swat03:33
BigChirvcatalytic, I think you need to read a little bit before start messing with your systems, man03:33
oskudecatalytic: /dev/hd5 wont propably exist...03:33
catalyticnope it doesnt03:34
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BigChirvcatalytic, Go to http://www.tldp.org/ and find some manuals for you03:34
ra21vioskude: is there any driver for i915... i guess that every intel has this one only, but in Gentoo i can set my i915 too03:34
catalyticok, can you point me in the right direction bigchirv03:34
catalyticok03:34
ra21vioskude: is that case with here03:34
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oskudecatalytic: do you know if its hda, hdb, hdc or so ?03:34
ra21vicatalytic: whats the problem buddy03:34
oskudera21vi: i heard some bad words about i915 here ;)03:34
catalyticin /dev i have catalytic and i can see hda, hda1, hda2, and hda503:34
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catalyticwhen i installed ubuntu03:35
oskudecatalytic: ok, then its /dev/hda5 what you looked for03:35
catalytici thought it would be a good idea to make 2 partitions03:35
catalyticone for the os03:35
light_!ntfs03:35
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse03:35
catalyticother for data03:35
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light_!fuse03:35
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse03:35
catalyticbut i chose primary for the first one that ubuntu installed onto, and logical for the second one03:35
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ra21vioskude: like what03:36
ra21vi:)03:36
catalyticand i get03:36
catalyticcatalytic@nix:/dev$ mkfs.ext3 /dev/hd503:36
catalyticmke2fs 1.35 (28-Feb-2004)03:36
catalyticCould not stat /dev/hd5 --- No such file or directory03:36
catalyticThe device apparently does not exist; did you specify it correctly?03:36
spanglesontoasthow do I get samba to actually auth my user properly03:36
oskudera21vi: it not working, and some problems with modelines... (i personally never had an intel gfx chip)03:37
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ra21vioskude: thanks dude, i solved my problem.. my X started03:37
oskudecatalytic: you do see that its hda5 not hd5 ?03:37
gambixsualut03:37
ra21vioskude: i wish if i cud give u a kiss03:37
gambixAu secour !03:37
ra21vilol03:37
ra21vinoway03:37
catalyticer, oops03:37
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catalyticcheers oskude03:37
oskudera21vi: nice that it works!03:37
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catalyticim a tard03:37
gambixpeut po install mon linux sous03:37
oskude!fr ?03:38
catalyticsays its already mounted03:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fr ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:38
oskude!fr03:38
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.03:38
oskudecatalytic: oh, you cant format partitions that are mounted...03:38
gambixje ne peut pas instaler mein linux sur mkein laptop03:38
ra21vioskude: so , thank u very much//// going off to do my work, and i willcome online and if i find u, :) thatw would b nie to see u again :)03:38
ra21vioskude: bye03:38
boinkgambix: nous ne parlons pas l'anglais ici03:38
oskudera21vi: bb, hf03:38
catalyticok,03:38
gambixlol03:38
boink!tell gambix about fr03:38
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catalyticso its an unformatted partition03:39
catalyticthat has somehow been auto mounted?03:39
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oskudecatalytic: it cant be unformatted if its mounted...03:39
gambixna mais je parle le franais non ?03:39
catalyticim still stuck in windows/mac world03:39
oskude!fr > gambix03:39
catalyticuse to seeing c: d:03:39
gambixargh03:39
gambixlol03:39
gambixsorry03:39
oskudegambix: this is english channel...03:39
nash_alguien que hable en espaol??03:39
jrib!ese03:40
boink!tell nash_ about es03:40
jrib!es03:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:40
catalyticim not sure if i can save to my second partition yet03:40
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.03:40
dxdemetriouIs there a program for remote control pc that is behind a router? I can't change settings from my router. The only worked is logmein, that the program runs and I can connect from site, it find the pc from the program running, but is only for windows03:40
oskudecatalytic: ok, then start to think that c: d: and so on are "mount points" not partitions03:40
catalyticok, like hda1 and hda 503:40
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BigChirvnash_, go to ubuntu-es03:40
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oskudecatalytic: no /dev/hda1 is partition03:40
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catalyticok03:41
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catalyticah, everything in mnt is mounted03:41
catalyticas a drive03:41
catalyticbut my /mnt is empty03:41
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oskudecatalytic: you should not mount directyl to /mnt (do dirs in /mnt and mount to them)03:42
catalyticok03:42
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catalyticso i sohuld be able to mount a new drive/folder/whatever i want to call it in /mnt that will use the partition hda503:42
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catalyticif hda5 is formatted correctly?03:43
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oskudecatalytic: when i do "mount" i can see wahts mounted atm... like "/dev/hda2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)" says /dev/hda2 (partition/device) is mounted to dir /03:43
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oskudecatalytic: yes...03:43
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oskudecatalytic: gotta go home, sorry03:44
catalyticso i have03:44
catalytic/dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)03:44
catalyticand03:44
catalytic/dev/hda5 on /home type ext3 (rw)03:44
catalyticok03:44
catalyticdang03:44
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catalyticthanks for ur help so far tho03:44
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oskudecatalytic: looks good /dev/hda5 (device/partition) is mounted in /home (dir) as format ext3... good luck, bb03:45
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BigChirvcatalytic, Don't forget to read a intro to Linux. :-) Look in http://www.tldp.org/03:45
catalytichmmm what he just said, does that mean that the drive is already formatted03:45
catalyticok03:45
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Alakazamz0rhey, whats the site for adding repositories to sources.list?03:47
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UbuntuGuyhey -- anyone else notice that Hans Reiser (of the reiser fs) has been arrested for murder?03:47
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fracussuspicioun of murder...03:48
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MadDog011reiser fs?03:48
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MadDog011who did he kill?!03:49
UbuntuGuyfracus: a technicality and an irrelevant one.  You can't be charged with "suspicion", only for a real crime03:49
fracusHey All:  I currently have a debian server for web, samba, ssh.  I want to rebuid my server on a different box, would it be better for ubuntu desktop or ubuntu server?  Is there much of a difference?03:49
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timhaughtonHere's the thing - every time I log in to my Ubuntu desktop, I'd like the same apps to launch on the same virtual desktop in the same place. Is there anyway to make Gnome 'remember' this?03:50
beefFracture: if its just a web server ssh and samba box..server probably better, tis not a big install likedesktop03:50
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fracusit is a headless system, so I won't be using a gui either03:50
beefserver then03:50
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Samuli^timhaughton, I think you can just simply save your session so it'll open it up exactly like that later.03:50
timhaughtonCool. I'll try that.03:51
fracusthanks  beef.  techinically is it just a differenet set of inital packages between the two?03:51
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LaneI am in dire need of help, I am trying to finish installing apache and vsftpd on an ubuntu server remotely that does not have the ubuntu cd in it.03:51
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timhaughtonSamuli: How do I save my session?? :)03:52
LaneEverytime I try to apt-get these two it asks me to put in the cdrom.03:52
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Samuli^timhaughton, I'm not on linux right now, so I can't really help. I just remember that you can do that at least in KDE.03:52
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Samuli^timhaughton, other than that, there are programs with you can specify exactly where you want a certain window to open, so you could use that along with the session manager -> start-up programs but it takes work. :)03:53
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TheGateKeeperLane: have a look at /etc/sources.list03:54
timhaughtonSamuli^: OK thanks, that's enough for me to do some research.03:54
Nintii|2some reason when I installed Ubuntu Dapper it messed up my other partitions.  Windows XP which is on a different partition won't work.  In fact it won't even recognize those partitions in dos/windows, now I just have one big C: there.  But when I go into Ubuntu it shows my other old partitions with all the data in them, but I can't access them03:54
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LaneThank You so much, TheGateKeeper.03:54
Nintii|2and I want to access them in dos/windows, not in Ubuntu03:54
LaneI have had a hell of a morning.03:54
TheGateKeeperLane: np :-)03:54
Nintii|2I have had a hell of a night03:54
xenoterracidewhere is this OS setting my default editor to nano03:55
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Nintii|2trying to figure this out..03:55
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xavxenoterracide, how is this editor started?03:55
xenoterracideexample crontab -e03:56
xenoterracidealso with visudo03:56
xenoterracideuntil I overrode that one in /etc/sudoers03:56
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TheGateKeeperNintii|2: have a look on microsoft's site for fixmbr, I presume that is what your problem is03:56
Nintii|2I heard that is dangerous03:56
Nintii|2have you ever used it?03:56
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xenoterracidexav I know it's set in rc.conf in gentoo but in ubuntu I have no Idea03:57
TheGateKeeperNintii|2: you are using dual boot, problem is you can boot linux but not windows?03:57
xavxenoterracide, try sudo update-alternatives --config editor03:58
Nintii|2Yes03:58
LaneThank you so much, TheGateKeeper. although for future refrence it was /etc/apt/sources.list03:58
Nintii|2my old partitions don't show up in the windows recovery console03:58
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LaneBut really you mad my morning.03:58
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Lanemade*03:58
TheGateKeepersorry Lane I have a nasty habbit of forgetting that :-)03:59
Nintii|2but they are showing up here in Ubuntu, but of course I can't access them cause they are NTFS03:59
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xenoterracidethx xav that's what I needed03:59
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elaffsomeone here using xqf?03:59
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xavxenoterracide, np, you remind me I had to edit that as well :)03:59
TheGateKeeperNintii|2: ok first check /boot/grub/menu.lst is ok03:59
xav!anyone > elaff04:00
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nataraj_if there's a cd inside the tray, while booting, the eject button near the cd-tray doesn't work. why is that04:00
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xenoterracideyeah on kubuntu no one seemed to know what I was talking about earlier04:00
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xavlol04:00
nataraj_it's ok otherwise04:00
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elaffok :P04:00
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TheGateKeeperNintii|2: you can access ntfs with ntfs-3g04:01
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elaffall my games disaperaed from the list in xqf04:01
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elaffi have apt-get remove xqf and installed it again04:01
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xavactually, I never understood this neither04:01
xavsometimes, it listed all games, and other times, only the ones I had installed04:02
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_maneyISO psycopg2 for dapper.  has anyone backported this already?04:02
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xavelaff, but try removing ~/.xqf or something04:02
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Nintii|2my windows XP install shows up on that grub list when starting up my computer, but when I try go to it it says that i'm missing some hal.dll file04:02
xavNintii|2, I don't see how this could be related to ubuntu in any way04:03
nataraj_any ubuntu developers around here?04:03
Nintii|2oh it is04:03
xavnataraj_, probably not. why?04:03
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elaffxav: where is ~/.xqf04:03
raw-binGreets. Have been using dapper for a bit now. Was wondering if edgy eft is usable ?04:03
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root__what was the command to see the programs using the network?04:03
Nintii|2it's not finding my NTFS partitions anymore in dos/windows04:03
Nintii|2only in Ubuntu04:03
root__netstat -p?04:03
Nintii|2this is right after I installed ubuntu dapper04:04
nataraj_just asked. I could have done with a short interview for inspiration. :)04:04
root__Nintii|2: whats going on? you cant see your windows drives from windows? only through ubuntu?04:05
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elaffsure they are NTFS?04:05
Nintii|2yeah, I had 3 partitions NTFS before I installed ubuntu, now in windows it's just showing up as one huge C: one04:05
Nintii|2yes i'm positive04:05
Nintii|2I had windows xp running on one04:06
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Sipohi04:06
Nintii|2but all my old ones are showing up in Ubuntu04:06
Nintii|2how do I get ntfs-3g?04:06
Nintii|2is that something I can install from the universe list?04:07
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root__wait... you had 3 windows partitions, one running windows, the others were logical... then you installed ubuntu on one of the partitions and now your windows only sees the drive as one big drive?04:07
nataraj_if you guys'll like it i'll post a link which shows how the boot-up time for linux can be nicely reduced using stripped down python scripts instead of bash scripts04:07
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xavyou don't need ntfs-3g. only for writing, but I'm not sure if it's safe04:07
Nintii|2yes, root__04:07
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xenoterracidesuggests adding ntfs read support04:07
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Nintii|2how would I go about that?04:08
simmerzis the difference between ubuntu, xubuntu and kubuntu just the default installed DE?04:08
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Nintii|2all I am worried about is being able to recover some of the files from those drives04:08
xenoterracideand copy data to either crappy fat32 for windows restore or ext3 for full migration to linux04:08
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root__my guess is that when you installed ubuntu it deleted your partition table off the mbr when it was writing the grub...maybe it got stepped on or somehting04:08
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root__Nintii|2: there is a wonderful little proggie for windows caled "ext2ifs"04:09
Nintii|2if I can get some of those files, burn them on a CD, i'm fine with reformatting everything and starting over, I jsut really need some of those files04:09
xenoterracideif support isn't in ubuntu kernel by default you would have to rebuild the kernel04:09
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malegriahi, sorry if i bore you, but the url->firefox doesnt work in my xchat (i think the problem is mentioned pretty often but i couldn't find a solution). gnome-open is set to firefox. opening links by right clicking and selecting an url handler (!firefox -a firefox -remote 'openURL(%s,new-tab)') works. i set /set gui_url_mod 0 to be able to use left click but it still opens konqueror. ideas?04:09
root__it will allow your windows to access your linux drives...04:09
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Nintii|2but I can't get into windows at all04:09
root__you cant write... but you can read/copy04:09
Nintii|2I want linux to access my ntfs drives04:09
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xenoterracideif it was his partition table linux coudn't see it either04:09
root__ahh04:09
root__just map to them04:10
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xenoterracidemount them04:10
xavmalegria, try update-alternatives04:10
Dimensionshiiii04:10
Nintii|2sorry, i'm a noob with linux04:10
root__mount -t ntfs /path/to/drives /mount/point04:10
xavsudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser04:10
malegriaxav: i'll try04:10
elaffxav:  it could be solved in xqf by pressing Edit > Add default master servers04:11
simmerzis the difference between ubuntu, xubuntu and kubuntu just the default installed DE?04:11
xavelaff, ah ok04:11
xenoterracideyep simmerz04:11
segfault_simmerz, yes04:11
xenoterracidewhere's my fluxbuntu?04:11
segfault_;)04:12
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root__lol at your startup session :P04:12
xavyep04:12
simmerzxenoterracide: segfault_: so it makes absolutely no difference to the base install?04:12
root__too bad freenx dont supportr it04:12
xavjust install fluxbox and you've fluxbuntu04:12
xenoterracideI know04:12
xenoterracide:P04:12
malegriaxav: it says "sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser. | *+ 1 /usr/bin/konqueror | 2 /usr/bin/firefox | Press enter to keep the default[*] , or type selection number:" seems as if konqueror is default. why?04:12
root__i love just using that04:12
root__no icons and crap04:12
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xavsimmerz, no difference04:13
xavmalegria, then choose firefox04:13
malegriasorry, starts with "Press enter to keep the default[*] , or type selection number:"04:13
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malegriaok04:13
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segfault_simmerz, nothing different but default de, and the uspash screen will reflect xubuntu/kubuntu/ubuntu by default04:13
simmerzsegfault_: ok cool04:13
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xenoterracidewell simmerz I would say the difference is in packages. with ubuntu you have gnome gtk mainly04:13
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malegriaxav: great, that works. thanks a lot!04:13
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xenoterracidekubuntu kde and qt04:13
edgyHi, I installed edgy on a chroot in dapper but to work with edgy mysql I need to stop dapper mysql, how can I solve this?04:13
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atoponceso, are the plans for iceweasel to replace firefox in edgy?04:14
xenoterracidexubuntu is light and uses xfce04:14
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JuCa_TruCahi04:14
atoponcei guess it depends on the debian testing branch, whether it's in there or not04:14
JuCa_TruCahello04:14
simmerzxenoterracide: I'm thinking of installing kubuntu on and old almost broken laptop we use in the office as the music server. Just because amarok is leagues ahead of itunes04:14
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xenoterracideI want to know what the hell kind of a name iceweasel is04:14
atoponcei love it04:14
JuCa_TruCawhat is the best linux????04:14
segfault_edgy, u prolly need to chroot into ur edgy env, also if using mysql listening on a port make sure they r different04:14
atoponcei think it's great04:14
tiredbonesI tried purging and reinstalling evolution so that I could get at the wizard for setting the properties. This does dot work.. It seems it still remimbers the pervious vales that I set, which where wrong. Does any know how to get at these values?04:14
root__im trying to get amarok on my wifes mac04:14
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root__lol04:14
root__but it has no compiler :**(04:15
Subhumanxenoterracide, fire - ice . fox -weasel04:15
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root__what am i to do04:15
xavJuCa_TruCa, there is only one linux04:15
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lnxnice id04:15
d0uglashey now.. Trying to get dual monitors going with an ati radeon mobility u1/igp 320m using xinerama, but no luck. Only clonemode. I'm under the impression that this still isn't possible with linux. anyone know if that's the case with these ati suckers?04:15
xenoterracidemicrosoft is weasely04:15
JuCa_TruCa?04:15
atoponcei love the proposed logos on the ubuntu wiki too04:15
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Dimensionshi i want to change the zooming of desktop how do i do it ... resolution is smaller and desktop is bigger04:15
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segfault_tiredbones, to kill ur settings rm ~/.evolution04:15
JuCa_TruCadont understand04:15
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JuCa_TruCa?04:15
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truz_`24So whats the next best thing to reiserfs ?04:15
truz_`24:-)04:16
atoponcei just hope that firefox is out and iceweasel in04:16
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tiredbonessegfault, I tried that first. It still remembers the old values.04:16
xavtruz_`24, there is no such thing04:16
truz_`24lol04:16
xavtruz_`24, because reiserfs isn't the best04:16
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XenThraLhow do I go about setting my resolution to 1152 x 864 ?04:16
xenoterracideI just hope that mozilla's head shrinks04:16
xenoterracidebecause it has gotten to big04:17
truz_`24THen what is?04:17
tiredbonesIs there an evolution channel?04:17
XenThraL(I'm using KDE)04:17
simmerzis it possible to attach an rdp server to X11 like you can with vnc?04:17
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d0uglasis it possible to use dual monitors with an ati radeon igp 320m?04:17
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segfault_XenThraL, edit xorg.conf04:17
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xavtruz_`24, I believe ext3 is better overall for a common usage04:17
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xenoterracideyou can remote x11 natively04:17
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xavd0uglas, no idea, try google04:17
XenThraLthanks segfault_04:17
host_I use jfs04:17
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xenoterracideext* forever04:18
atoponcexenoterracide: yes, mozilla is trying to play god, and it isn't working04:18
xavif you have specific needs, an other fs might suit you better04:18
Toma-atoponce: whats the diff between iceweasel and firefox? looks identical to me...04:18
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xavToma-, they are04:18
atoponceToma-: it's firefox, without the trademarked logo04:18
host_what's the fastest fs?04:18
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XenThraLsegfault_, where is it located? I forget :o04:18
d0uglasxav: google shows a bunch of forums with people saying they've tried everything with no luck, but they're old posts, maybe some breakthroughs have happened.. oh well, guess i'll just vnc into the machine to get two screens04:18
xenoterracidenot god atoponce they are trying to be corporation instead of organization04:18
xavhost_, there is no fastest fs04:18
segfault_XenThraL, /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:19
atoponcexenoterracide: lol04:19
xenoterracidee.g. more like M$04:19
XenThraLahh X11, thanks04:19
atoponceyeah04:19
xavhost_, it depends on the usage04:19
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selinuxium_hi all, I have a network printer on 192.168.0.90 that i can ping. But I can't print. any ideas?04:19
xenoterracidethis all started when they became mozilla corportation04:19
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xenoterracideand got mozilla.com04:19
atoponceToma-: iceweasel is part of the gnuzilla sweet which is 100% free software, images and all04:19
d0uglasxav: any idea of something like framebuffer mode or fglrx might have something to do with it?04:19
xenoterracidethey have forgotten their root04:19
xavxenoterracide, it didn't start when dfsg was created?04:20
Toma-*suite04:20
atoponceyeah04:20
Toma-ok then04:20
xenoterracidepossibly04:20
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atoponces/sweet/suite/04:20
Bedirselamlar04:20
xavd0uglas, you could try with fglrx04:20
LSD`xenoterracide: so all iceweasle is is Debian cracking the sads with mozilla? lame.04:20
atoponcei promise i can type :-)04:20
xavd0uglas, oh no04:20
BedirTrke bilen varm04:20
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xenoterracidemozilla has multiple roots now04:20
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atoponceLSD`: yeah. the've parted ways04:20
xenoterracidelike M$04:20
atoponcei say good for debian04:20
xenoterracidemakes them crappier04:20
xavd0uglas, it doesn't support your card04:20
xenoterracideyep04:20
atoponcegood for gnu04:20
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Bedirmy webcam problem04:20
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d0uglasxav: what doesn't, fglrx?04:21
xavd0uglas, right04:21
d0uglasopengl doesn't work04:21
d0uglasok.. sigh.04:21
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xavd0uglas, should work with dri04:21
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xavd0uglas, with the ati/radeon open source driver04:21
Subhumanxenoterracide, why would they?04:21
xenoterracidewhy not?04:21
[WC] Hi, I want to install Xubuntu 6.10, but when it reach 94%, for the execution of "grub-update" it stop. Well, after a night, he was always at this stage, what I have to do?04:22
d0uglasxav: all right i'll start googling that.. thank you kindly.04:22
xenoterracidepatches04:22
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xavwhich patches?04:22
Subhumanumm, because iceweasel is just to sort out the whole copyright and distribtion issues.04:22
Subhumanthe patches is just to make it a proper fork, nothing else.04:22
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xenoterracideright copyright because they can't patch it and keep the name04:23
xavdoes gentoo patch firefox?04:23
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xenoterracidedon't think so04:23
LSD`the whole thing is lame04:23
Subhumanxenoterracide, no becuase they cant ship the FF logo04:23
atoponcemozilla doesn't take upstream, which is annoying04:23
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regxhi04:23
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|daniel|hey, my monitor and graphics card support higher resolutions than ubun04:23
Subhumancuz its not modifyable, and everything in debian must be modifiable freely.04:23
xenoterracidesigh gentoo managed to get that compatability eventually04:23
xavSubhuman, we are talking about gentoo04:23
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xenoterracideand now gentoo can distribute with logo04:24
LSD`Subhuman: lame04:24
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xenoterracidebut I'm not sure if we can patch04:24
xenoterracidemore likely we could than debian04:24
Subhumanxenoterracide, yeah gentoo might allow non-free things to be included.04:24
xenoterracidebecause we don't distribute binaries04:24
atoponcegentoo doesn't hold to the same free principles that debian does04:24
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atoponceit's not a big deal for gentoo to release firefox with the trademarked logo04:25
LSD`atoponce: which is a good thing04:25
xav# Apply our patches04:25
xavEPATCH_FORCE="yes" epatch "${WORKDIR}"/patch04:25
atoponceit is for debian, and should be for ubuntu04:25
xenoterracideyeah and it took 6 months for us to meet their trademark standards atoponce04:25
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xavatoponce, it doesnt give them the right to patch it04:25
xenoterracide6 months after 1.5 was released before we could label the program firefox04:25
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atoponcexenoterracide: why? i guess i'm confused then04:26
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[WC] Hi, I want to install Xubuntu 6.10, but when it reach 94%, for the execution of "grub-update" it stop. Well, after a night, he was always at this stage, what I have to do?04:26
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xenoterracidebecause our binaries weren't working exactly like theirs04:26
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xenoterracideI'm not sure ask jory pratt if you can find him04:26
xenoterracidehe was the maintainer at the time04:26
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xenoterracidebut you can't modify the firefox binary in almost any way including patches and keep the trademark04:27
atoponcei just hope that ubuntu replaces firefox with iceweasel when the package hits the debian testing branch04:27
Stigi`If anyone have experience with setting up Quake 2 for Wine, please msg me ;)04:27
frogzoo[WC] : verfied the cd ?checked the md5 ?04:27
xenoterracidecan't quake 2 be run natively?04:27
sherirao:)04:27
[WC] Hum no? maybe reburn the cd??04:28
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LSD`Stigi`: it's been ported, you shouldn't need wine anymore04:28
frogzoo[WC] : yup, with a verify & @ 50% max speed04:28
Stigi`Okay, but the problem is that I dont have the CD anymore :\04:28
sheriraowhat is ubuntu linux?04:28
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Stigi`All I have is the setup folder from Windows04:28
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stefg[WC] : you don't have many options on what to do next, have you? Switch the box off, check the CD for defects, check if your partition table is correct and either reinstall or try if just installing grub already gives you a working system04:28
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regxany one here about hans reiser???04:28
dfgaswhat do i have to install to see my email in console  (local mail)04:28
xenoterracideyah04:28
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regxisnt that crappy04:29
regx:(04:29
frogzooregx: sort of, his wife went missing04:29
regxsigh04:29
regxsucks04:29
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regxi do too04:29
frogzooregx: any further update?04:29
segfault_dfgas, mutt or mail (ithink the pkg is mailx for mail)04:29
[WC] Ok, to check if my partition table is correct, how do I do this, I don't remember hehe04:29
dfgasport 110 and 25 for email? pop3 and smtp?04:29
xavxenoterracide, no offense, but using gentoo for a server seems stupid04:29
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stefg!offtopic > xenoterracide04:29
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regxfrogzoo, i know he's officially arrested on "circumstantial evidence" :(04:29
stefg!offtopic > LSD`04:29
xenoterracidebagh04:29
cute_bettongcan someone help me with my nvidia problem? ill go into depth if you need me too04:29
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sherirao;)04:30
Stigi`LSD`, how does it work then? I download some kind if patch ?04:30
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xenoterracidenone taken xav04:30
zzyberdoes anyone know of any unlock gsm software for linux/ubuntu?04:30
LSD`!stfu > stefg04:30
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frogzooregx: damn - people were saying they'd never pin it on the guy that designed atomic commits for reiserfs04:30
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segfault_cute_bettong, ask with detail someone here will ikely be able to help04:30
[WC] stefg: Ok, to check if my partition table is correct, how do I do this, I don't remember hehe04:30
LSD`Stigi`: if there's no native binaries you can [probably get a hold of the source, try icculus.org04:30
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regxfrogzoo, im sad :( that really sucks04:31
Stigi`thanks LSD`04:31
LSD`Stigi`: I know iD did release the source to it a few years back04:31
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stefg[WC] : sudo fdisk -l for a very brief check04:31
regxfrogzoo, i was really looking forward to new reiserFS's04:31
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LSD`Stigi`: try an apt-cache search quake2 first04:31
[WC] ok04:31
xenoterracidewonders if reiser4 will ever make it into the kernel now04:31
[WC] thanks04:32
sheriraois it possible in GAIM that i directly create an account on IRC then i dont have to use a command to /join #ubuntu04:32
regxxenoterracide, i bet even if he is inocent .. it wont04:32
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xenoterracideis it a bad idea to script an apt-get upgrade into a cron job?04:32
cute_bettongok i have an  VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500]  (rev a1) agp card it has 256mb of ram on it i play a game called second life but the game only picks up 128mb max i was told that xorg had something to do with this glitch......i want to do 2 things figure out how much memory x has access to on the card.....and if it's not 256 then make it that way......can anyone help?04:32
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regxxenoterracide, yes.04:32
sheriraois it possible in GAIM that i directly create an account on IRC then i dont have to use a command to /join #ubuntu04:32
XenThraLsegfault_, I went and changed the file but it didn't change anything in the display options04:32
xenoterracidefigures04:32
sheriraotell me baby-steps04:32
regxxenoterracide, i dont trust ubuntu updates. since everytime i update.. it breaks my box04:32
xavxenoterracide, , possibly, in case it goes wrong04:33
Stigi`LSD`, I got a package there called quake2-data, installer for quake 2 data files it says, that sounds great, will give it a shot then, thanks a bunch :)04:33
xenoterracidereally04:33
segfault_XenThraL, u need to restart x first before those changes will take effect04:33
xenoterracideeverytime?04:33
xenoterracidehuh04:33
xavit shouldn't break often though04:33
xenoterracideglad I don't run ubuntu ;-)04:33
xavon dapper04:33
XenThraLoh, I half-assed and just ended the session04:33
regxxenoterracide, well not EVERYtime. but alot.. enough that i dont update for at least 1 month at a time04:33
XenThraL:p04:33
sheriraou run edubuntu ?04:33
LSD`Stigi`: you'll probably need a quake2 cd or at the very least, a copy of the shareware version foir that to work don't forget ;)04:33
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regxi wanted to go with ARCH Linux but they have some screwy install issues.04:33
LSD`cute_bettong: try finding the video ram option in xorg.conf, uncommenting it and setting it to the correct amount of vram for your card04:34
sheriraoshareware is not free-software04:34
xavregx, are you using dapper?04:34
zzyberI like to raise a question here: Why should anyone want to buy a macintosh today except for the design. As i understand macintosh has released their os for intel and their hardware also is based on intel with higher performance. I myself wanted a mac and sat down to think.........why shall i buy a mac? I love the design but if i buy a laptop from for example DELL and then install Ubuntu i think i will get the same funktions and even better prefor04:34
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cute_bettongok thank you LSD i will try that04:34
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Stigi`LSD`, that I found out ;) Think I'll manage now, will get back to you if I dont, if thats okay with you?04:34
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xenoterracidespeaking of which04:34
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xenoterracidedoes anyone have any idea why kubuntu won't let my user login in the gui04:35
segfault_cute_bettong, there is an option in xorg.conf for video mem its an Option directive to the device section for ur gfx card, I forget the exact syntax, try starting there04:35
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xenoterracideit tells me some .kde..... is missing04:35
cute_bettongsegfault_, VideoRam262144 is this it?04:36
xenoterracideI've never run kde as the user that I'm aware of04:36
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regxxenoterracide, can any other users login?04:36
xenoterracideyeah the one created at system install04:36
cute_bettongthats what i put in there when i did a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:36
xenoterracidehers04:36
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xavxenoterracide, you could try removing it since there is no data there04:36
segfault_cute_bettong, again i forget the exact directive, but that sounds right04:36
regxxenoterracide, then re create your broked account04:36
xenoterracideand I can log in remotely04:36
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snoopszzyber.. it really depends.. there's some ace software for mac..and that's what it comes down to..the software which runs on the os04:36
cute_bettongok yea segfault_ i did that already but the game i use dosen't detect the proper amount of memory04:36
LSD`cute_bettong: yep, then umber looks right for 256mb, just make sure its uncommented (no # at the start of the line)04:37
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cute_bettongok04:37
segfault_cute_bettong, have u restarted x since u changed it?04:37
xenoterracidetrust me my home folder isn't empty04:37
xenoterracideI've just been remoting04:37
regxxenoterracide, just recreate the account and move your personal data back over04:37
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regxxenoterracide, what is the exact error?04:38
xenoterracideone moment04:38
regx104:38
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cute_bettongok i knoticed that other entrys have a " at the start and end of the value.....the amount of vram did not....is that ok?04:38
Yokaloshi have a strange problem when i try to install which is that it hangs at mounting root file system04:38
cute_bettongi changed it to look like VideoRam"262144"04:38
Yokaloshi tried 3 different images too04:38
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xenoterracidehmm.... I fixed it04:39
regxyay04:39
regxlol04:39
Yokaloshi've tried 6.06  amd64, kubuntu 6.06  amd64 and ubuntu 6.06  i38604:40
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Yokaloshand they all get the same problem of not getting past 'mounting root filesystem'04:40
xenoterracidehad a .kde folder04:40
xenoterracideso I deleted it04:40
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regxugh!!!!  Photoshop Cs2 on ubuntu. hotttttt04:40
xenoterracidebagh04:41
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stefgYokalosh: have you tried omitting the 'quiet splash' parameters at boot?04:41
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cute_bettongand is there a way for ubuntu to tell you how much vram it's got access to...to verify that its useing 256mb of vram?04:41
Yokaloshstefg no o_o should i?04:41
stefgyes04:41
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Yokaloshstefg: ok i'll give it a go04:41
quietoh noes! don't omit quiet!04:42
Yokaloshcheers04:42
quiet;)04:42
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martosshi there04:42
strugglerhi all04:42
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martossi have a rsync querstion:04:43
martoss rsync -rvvn --exclude="*.*" --include="*.dat" data/ dats/04:43
jbaloulhi all04:43
martosswhy is it not copying all .dat files from data to dats04:43
cute_bettongso anyone know of a command that will spit out the amount of videoram? that the x has access to?04:43
kotixsoftlibhay personas de venezuela aqui04:43
jbaloulhas webmin been removed from the repos?04:43
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stefg!es04:43
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.04:43
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jbaloulanyone? webmin? where has the beuty gone?04:46
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vortexopticswhere can I find the c header files that match my running kernel to compile vmware tools?04:47
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vortexopticsanyone? :)04:47
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quietvortexoptics, use this: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server04:48
quietvortexoptics, but to answer your question...  linux-header-`uname -r`04:49
quietheaders*04:49
vortexopticsthanks04:49
truiuvortexoptics: apt-get install linux-kernel-headers04:49
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regxdude. i hate oompa loompas04:49
jbaloulvortexoptics: http://howtoforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=5504:49
sjust1216has anyone used ketouch04:50
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sproingiewhat the ... more apt mirrors down?04:51
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Yokaloshdfgas: hmmmm it stops at [69.420870]  ohci_hcd 0000:00:0b.0: OHCI Host Controller04:52
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ifrozenhi04:53
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fangoriousi have a headless machine I remote connect to, and would like to be able to set grub to use a particular kernel as a one-time default (so I can reboot to windows, and then a subsequent reboot will put me back in linux)04:53
Xaitanis there any one in here that knows where I can get drivers for a Dell Wireless1450 USB NIC?04:53
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sproingiefangorious: man grub.  oh wait, it's one of those "screw you, read the nonexistent info page" GNU-compliant manpages04:54
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fangorioussproingie: guess I'll have to learn how to navigate info pages04:55
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sproingiegood luck, since info grub turns up the manpage04:56
sproingiei should start a "de-info-cation" project for ubuntu04:57
jribhttp://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html is your best bet04:57
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LSD`but info pages are the GNU standard!!111!1oneoneone04:57
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Yokaloshmy ubuntu installation stops at 'mounting root file system' ([69.420870]  ohci_hcd 0000:00:0b.0: OHCI Host Controller)]  i don't know why04:58
xenoterracideoh right another anoyance......04:58
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Yokaloshany ideas?04:59
stefg!wifi04:59
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:59
xenoterracidehow do I get ubuntu to not lookup a hostname when doing sudo04:59
xenoterracideif I loose network I can's sudo04:59
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xenoterracideand I can't get network back without sudo04:59
SpCombnow that sounds a bit weird, sudo shouldn't need network access04:59
Overandi've heard of that issue before05:00
jribxenoterracide: there's some option your can put in /etc/sudoers .  I can't remember it offhand, but man sudo05:00
Overandthrowing hostname errors05:00
Overandon 'sudo'05:00
Overandi don't remember the cause05:00
xenoterracideheah05:00
Yokaloshstefg: do you have any ideas? you told me to take off the splash and i did and i can see it stops at '[69.420870]  ohci_hcd 0000:00:0b.0: OHCI Host Controller' but now i don't know what to do05:00
SpCombperhaps it's related to the auth logs05:00
sproingieman sudoers05:00
sproingienow THAT is a useful man page05:00
jribyeah that's what I mean :)05:00
stefgYokalosh: I had nothing but trouble with the stock dapper-kernel, too. In my case i had a 30 sec. break at boot-time when using usplash... I build my own kernel and problems were gone...05:00
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xenoterracideyeah it is but whatever it is I didn't do it05:01
=== sproingie . o O ( that's also what congressman foley said )
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sproingie"useful man page"05:01
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sproingienevermind05:01
wilcox:P05:01
Overandwilcox: wrong channel?05:01
BiSk-8hello, how do i transfer a file from a folder to a hdd attached by USB?05:01
YggioSymbolic link = ln -s from to ? correct ?05:01
wilcoxOverand: no..05:01
Yokaloshstefg: how can i do that from windows?05:02
stefgYokalosh: you can't ...05:02
Yokaloshdamn ;)05:02
jribYggio: TARGET NAME05:02
Overandwell- i don't thnk it's appropriate, personally.05:02
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Yggiojrib -> ln -s source/file/here target/file/here ? Correct ?05:03
Yokaloshstefg: maybe i should get an old ubuntu and then upgrade?05:03
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MaKaTiGuYhow can i transfer my mounted drive to a different location05:03
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stefgYokalosh: i'd guess there's irq-conflicts which can be solved by weird boot-parameters... let me see if i can find documentation on that05:03
YggioMaKaTiGuY mount [option]  [device]  [mount-point] 05:03
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jribYggio: ln -s /bin/foo /bin/bar   will create the symbolic link named /bin/bar that points to /bin/foo05:03
Yokaloshstefg: thanks05:03
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Yggiojrib oh, so it'll be " ln -s target/file/here source/file/here ?05:04
vltHello. Are there deb packages available for hplip 0.98 somewhere?05:04
Yggio"05:04
Yggiovlt what package is it available in?05:04
jribYggio: yes, where target is the target of the symbolic link named source05:04
vltYggio: hplip05:05
Yggiovlt I know .. What is it available in? .tar.gz , .tar.bz2 , .rpm , .zip . 7z ?05:05
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stefgYokalosh: if it's not a laptop you could try 'noapic nolapic' or 'acpi=off'. If it changes something it would be interesting. BTW what Motherboard do you have?05:06
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Yggiojrib oh, so it'll be " ln -s target/file/here source/file/here " ?05:06
Yokaloshstefg: asus k8n-vm05:06
jribYggio: yes05:06
grogoreocan Linux use Mac version fonts, .ps?05:07
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vltYggio: Aah, sorry. There's a tar.gz file available on sf.net and a *.run file (which has been downloaded twicw as much as the tgz).05:08
vlts/twicw/twice05:09
stefgYokalosh: are you running it with the 64-bit version? Try the 32 bit version then05:09
Yokaloshstefg: i have tried both05:09
hailong?05:10
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Yokaloshstefg: i'll try your first suggestion =]  brb05:10
ajtraynorhey lads, i need help, my old ubuntu went all over the place with a core file been dumped, so im installing again, WHAT DO I DO TO INSTALL ON A SEPERATE PARTITION ALREADY AND HAVE WINDOWS XP AS A DEFAULT BOOT OS05:11
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ajtraynorI WANT TO KEEP WINDOWS, AS DEFAULT WHEN I TURN ON MY COMPUTER, 10 SEC CHOICE MENU05:11
ajtraynor??05:12
boinkDO YOU NEED TO USE CAPS?05:12
bubblenutHi what's the name of the package which allows me to manage applications I've compiled from source via apt?05:12
ajtraynorsorry05:12
ajtraynorcan anyone help05:12
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cute_bettong!xgl05:12
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems05:12
sproingieajtraynor: make the windows entry the default, and remove any "savedefault" lines in menu.lst05:13
vltajtraynor, Edit /boot/grub/menu.list and change "default=0" to your windows entry05:13
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covOPprometheusI installed ubuntu breezy on a new laptop, but x wont start up nor can I configure the ethernet-card. can someone help to configure one of them?05:13
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sproingieor keep default=0 and move windows to the top.  usually where you want your default anyway05:13
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ajtraynorvlt, i dont know how to do that?05:13
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sproingieajtraynor: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst.  it's just a text file05:14
ajtraynorand what do i type in05:14
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Unimatrix9hi there05:14
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ajtraynordefault =005:14
Unimatrix9any one here expert on wireless?05:14
sproingieajtraynor: what we said.  delete all the lines that say "savedefault" and move the windows entry (which is at the bottom) to the top05:14
ajtraynorah right cool05:14
ajtraynori get that through gnome05:15
sproingieajtraynor: the "top" meaning before the line that says BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST anyway05:15
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ajtraynorthanks, whats a god tutorial to get very fimilar with ubuntu05:16
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ajtraynorim very new to it05:16
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primeanyone who could help installing software with a tar.gaz?05:17
sproingieajtraynor: how much linux/unix do you know?05:17
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primeim a nbewby05:17
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xamoxIt says my apache server is running as "data-www" but my /var/www/ directory permissions are owned by root, when I try to upload to /var/www/files/ (from web interface via PHP)  it says I don't have permissions to that directory, do I need to change ownership to "data-www" to get this to work?05:17
primeim a newbie05:18
LaneAnyone know what channel to ask about fortifying the security on my ubuntue server?05:18
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snowblink!make05:18
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)05:18
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drezhahi05:19
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me_hola05:19
drezhahas anyone else suffered random blackouts on Ubuntu recently?05:19
primei have a software with a tar.gaz...how to make it work?05:19
RubyOnFailsblackout, ubuntu ? no way!05:19
me_hola05:20
RubyOnFailsprime, extract it to somewhere and, seek a read me file05:20
funkjaWhy would not all the screen resolutions that I have in my xorg.conf not appear in the screen resolution preference in gnome?05:20
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primei,ve done that...then?05:20
Yokaloshstefg: no luck :(05:20
RubyOnFailsprime, try to find a read me file, about installation05:20
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covOPprometheusI installed ubuntu breezy on a new laptop, but x wont start up nor can I configure the ethernet-card. can someone help to configure one of them?05:21
drezhayeah...screen goes dead, and acts like Ubuntu's not sending it data anymore05:21
Unimatrix9any wireless experts here?05:21
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me_hola ana05:21
drezhapushing key's doesn't work05:21
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me_holas alguien?05:21
me_hi....05:21
primeactually im planning to use gscore... do u know how to...it seems hard to follow the read me file05:21
RubyOnFailsprime, there are 3 possiblities for installing a program.  First compiling the source code, 2nd running an installer, 3rd installing via package manager. Try to find which one suits your program05:21
drezhais it possible the nVidia drivers? and if so how can I remove them?05:21
RubyOnFailsprime, just read the file. it would be more helpful than anyone in this channel05:22
aname_, para preguntar en castellano, #ubuntu-es05:22
Unimatrix9covOPprometheus ; does the live cd give an working x?05:22
RubyOnFailsUnimatrix9, yes05:23
RubyOnFailsUnimatrix9, even you can surf with firefox05:23
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Unimatrix9i dont use firefox...05:23
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RubyOnFailsUnimatrix9, what do you use ?05:23
Unimatrix9flock05:23
primeit says there 'configure' shell script... shall i click on it?05:23
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Unimatrix9and swiftfox05:23
RubyOnFailsUnimatrix9, it is highly a firefox clone05:24
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black_13how similare is to ubuntu do debian sarge?05:24
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RubyOnFailsprime, no, this means that you have the source code. Then you have todo the following05:24
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covOPprometheusUnimatrix9, nope, that's the prob, I have just installed it with no working result05:24
Unimatrix9actually i was looking for an wireless expert here..05:24
YggioTo make a filesystem, you type mkfs, but what is mke2fs ?05:24
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RubyOnFailsprime, ./configure , then make, then make install, or sudo make install05:24
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RubyOnFailsprime, consult the read me file please05:25
primeas in the source list..is that what u mean...sorry im newby05:25
Unimatrix9covOPprometheus ; i mean if you startup the live cd, you get the same results?05:25
Unimatrix9no x?05:25
RubyOnFailsprime, you have to do it from the console05:25
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RubyOnFailsprime, I don't get what do you mean by source list05:25
covOPprometheusUnimatrix9, aah, nope, I don't have the live cd here, so I never tried05:25
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puffI did a dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy, overnight.05:25
cyberhell86can somebody tell me where i can download a software to play dvd, divx and mp3 on ubuntu?? :S05:26
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puffDo I need to reboot now, or can I now upgrade from breezy to dapper?05:26
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RubyOnFailsprime, open up a terminal and change to the relevant directory then ./configure , make and make install05:26
Yggiocyberhell86 type -> sudo apt-cache search dvd .. you'll get alot of it! Choose one.05:26
lemsx1!xgl05:26
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems05:26
puffAnd is anybody familiar with using an ipod under ubuntu?  I just bought a nano and I'm trying to get it to work.05:26
hollaback83how do you turn cookies on05:26
Unimatrix9covOPprometheus ; you could try to edit your xorg.conf from the shell05:26
drezhato remove nVida drivers do I sudo nvidia-glx-config disable05:26
drezhathen sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common?05:26
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berentholloback : go to ur browser settings05:27
spanglesontoastwhere can I get chkconfig command ?05:27
cyberhell86apt-cache search dvd05:27
covOPprometheusUnimatrix9, I've opened it, but I'm not quiet sure what to put in. can you assist?05:27
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puffhello?05:28
puffOkay, I guess I'll just reboot anyway, on principle.05:28
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berentpuff : restart ur system05:28
primei run configure then... error:library requirements (glib-2.0 >= 2.6.0) not met.... does this means ... ineede to download the said library?05:28
Unimatrix9covOPprometheus ; make an backup first05:28
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Unimatrix9covOPprometheus ; sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup05:28
cyberhell86apt-cache search dvd05:29
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puffberent: thanks.05:30
Unimatrix9covOPprometheus ; what kind of video card is on your labtop?05:30
Lilandrahi! what's ubuntu-standard for?05:30
eucalreyou tell me ;)05:30
covOPprometheusUnimatrix9, ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 256MB GDDR305:30
sasallihi,  made some setting on ubuntu. than x config has gone. so , how can i reset X ?05:30
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fourhello05:31
Yggiosasalli did you backup your old xorg ?05:31
Yggio.conf05:31
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sasallihmm05:31
sasallii can't remember05:31
sasallimaybe05:31
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sasalliif it is ?_05:31
fouri was wondering if there is a way i can use my shared media from my windows pc with ubuntu without copying or convrting?05:31
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dade`who uses ubuntu on a macbook ?05:32
hollaback83were are the browser setting05:32
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Yggiodade` you can use , but I haven;t seen one that uses macbook *yet*05:32
Unimatrix9covOPprometheus ; does it say Section "Device"05:32
Unimatrix9Identifier "ATI"05:32
Unimatrix9Driver "fglrx"05:32
Yggio!fsck05:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:33
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brush01ukGreetings Everyone   Have agood  day05:33
tiredbonesI can not beleave how hard it is to change the the properties for evolution.05:33
segfault_four, is ur media on a diff  pc than ubuntu is?05:33
fouryes seg it is05:33
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fouri can see it and access it on the network05:33
fourbut i cant play the media05:34
drezhaI mentioned about the blackouts... I now have a file called hs_err_pid6621.log in my home folder05:34
fourwithot copying first05:34
drezhais this a error log?05:34
tiredbonesI can't find anything on google.05:34
drezhafour I had that troouble05:34
atroWorkWhere's the Xsetup file in ubuntu? I'm trying to connect as a synergy client before I log in, so that I *can* log in05:34
drezhayou have to use a mount command not just use the Place > connect to server option05:34
segfault_four, mount the network drive with samba and then play the media as if it were local to ur ubuntu machine05:34
covOPprometheusUnimatrix9, Identifier "Ati..." Driver "ati" BusID "PCI:6:0:0"05:35
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Unimatrix9any one knows an solution to connect to available wireless networks?05:35
fourok but if i mont it(had this trouble before) cant i NOT use it on my pc after that?05:35
puffHow do I figure out which /dev/sdfoo a given usb device is mounted as by automount?05:35
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puffUnimatrix9: iwconfig?05:35
segfault_four, i dont see why that would be the case05:36
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atroWorkfour, nope, you can use it on your PC just fine.05:36
hollaback83where are the browser settings located05:36
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brush01ukAny advice please on installing 2nd hard drive ?    ( new user to linux over the last few weeks )05:36
segfault_hollaback83, what settings?05:36
fourso mount with samba and i sould be good? kk thanks ill try it05:36
covOPprometheusUnimatrix9, should I change it to fglrx?05:36
Unimatrix9does iwconfig show all wireless networks in the erea?05:36
drezhafour, heres the command I use05:36
hollaback83browser05:36
drezha sudo mount -t smbfs //Serenity/Folding /home/chris/LaptopFAH05:36
primeanyone here who uses the Gscore?05:36
atroWorkfour, if you apt-get smbfs you can add it to /etc/fstab so that it auto mounts on boot05:36
Unimatrix9covOPprometheus ; no, because i dont think you have that driver installed yet05:37
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primeanyone here who uses the Gscore?05:37
hollaback83I want to enable cookies so i can read my email05:37
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drezhathat mounts the folder Folding off my laptop into LaptopFAH in my home05:37
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Unimatrix9covOPprometheus ; what is the error you get when trying to start x?05:37
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brenlaehollaback83, firefox accepts cookies by default i believe05:37
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segfault_Unimatrix9, use iwlist <interface> scan05:37
ChimereHi, how to create a FAT32 partition from the main one (ext3)?05:38
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iturkhi there !! i need to decompress a rar file what are the possibilities for ubuntu ???05:38
ajtraynorpartition magic05:38
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covOPprometheusUnimatrix9, hmm I don't remember the exact problem, but what do you need to know in especific05:38
ChimereUbuntu?05:38
segfault_iturk, unrar in universe or multiverse05:38
hollaback83mines does not accept them05:38
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iturksegfault_: its called unrar-free05:38
hollaback83i got it thanks anyway05:38
Lilandrais ubuntu-standard a regular meta-package for all the desktop *ubuntu installs?05:38
tiredbonesI found it! Evolution -> edit -> preferences05:38
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Unimatrix9covOPprometheus ; it would be helpfull yes05:39
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mouseclonezquick question:  I have ubuntu server installed.  When i set the static ip address and do a sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart etho no longer shows up.  i can do a sudo ifup eth0 and it will start working.  What am i missing.  I have followed walk thoughs but don't seem to be able to find an answer05:39
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primeleft the room05:39
iturksegfault_: i get failed so i think that i need to get the non-free version05:39
ChimereWhy not Gparted?05:39
brenlaeiturk, i believe there is a command line version of winrar for Linux on the main winrar site05:39
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segfault_Lilandra, no05:40
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covOPprometheusUnimatrix9, hehe well sec then, mind going on a personal channel? I ahve to type in everything manually05:40
MaKaTiGuYhello05:40
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MaKaTiGuYneed some help pls05:40
Unimatrix9covOPprometheus ; maybe reading this might give you an clue as to how installing ati drivers05:41
Unimatrix9http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide05:41
EnselicHow do I tell Ubuntu to open *.rm files in realplayer instead of totem?05:41
brenlaeegads, ATi drivers are the pits05:41
MaKaTiGuYhow can i transfer my mounted drive to a different location?05:41
segfault_MaKaTiGuY, umount then mount it, or mount --bind to also mount it at another place05:42
covOPprometheusUnimatrix9, ehm yes, but remember I don't have a internet connection05:42
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ricaneliteHello05:42
MaKaTiGuYseg: what is the parameters, sorry, im new05:42
ricaneliteDoes anyone here know about Wine?05:42
segfault_MaKaTiGuY, man mount05:42
atroWorkMaKaTiGuY, are you wanting to move it (as in not in the old place), copy it (as in both, but only taking up the space once), or have it in both (with space taken up on both)05:42
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MaKaTiGuYit's in a temp directory05:43
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fourdrezha on the command line you gave me, do i just replace chris with the network computer name?05:43
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cute_bettong!sources05:43
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource05:43
MaKaTiGuYi dont know how did it get there05:43
atroWorkMaKaTiGuY, you just want to mount it in a different location?05:43
MaKaTiGuYya05:43
cute_bettong!easysource05:43
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic05:43
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atroWorkMaKaTiGuY, look up the manual pages for umount and mount. You'll need to unmount (umount) the current mount point and remount it where you want it to be.05:44
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MaKaTiGuYok, tnx guys05:45
ricaneliteDoes anyone here know about Wine?05:46
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gangerlihi all05:47
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gangerlisomebody help me out05:47
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Khamaelricanelite: it`s easier if you just ask the question05:47
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Khamaelgangerli: : it`s easier if you just ask the question05:47
gangerliwhat do I need to install if I want to create macromedia director-like content?05:48
gangerliany programs like that on linux?05:48
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Khamaelgangerli: I don`t know. but someone here might. just hang around05:48
hYper_hi all05:49
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ricaneliteOkay, Well I have installed IE6 using Wine and when I type in wine iexplorer.exe the Wine Desktop window opens and then I have another window inside the Wine Desktop which is Wine Internet Explorer and nothing happens it is just in plain white05:49
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Khamaelhello hYper_05:49
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hYper_Khamael :)05:49
covOPprometheusis there any similar software like the media center in the winXP media edition for ubuntu ?05:49
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Khamaelricanelite: tried this http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page ?05:50
segfault_covOPprometheus, mythtv maybe05:50
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covOPprometheussegfault_, do you have an url?05:50
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e-headHey guys, what's the Ghost/TrueImage for Linux ?05:50
segfault_covOPprometheus, google is ur friend05:50
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e-headThat's easy to use ... "easy" meaning I can figure it out in 30 minutes or less.05:51
covOPprometheussegfault_, hehe I'm just lazy boy05:51
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segfault_:)05:51
Khamaele-head: what is ghost/trueimage,anyways?05:51
e-headA hard drive cloning program.05:52
segfault_e-head, what r u trying to accomplish05:52
ricaneliteNext anyone here has worked with jnlp file?05:52
e-headdrive/partition cloning.05:52
Khamaele-head: then I don`t know05:52
e-headI want to boot to a CD and make a clone of my drive.05:52
hYper_heY guYs, is there some way to fix gDesklets, weather?05:52
kapheinneed help with bind/named, any guru in here, or any place you would go :) ? (_not_ google _please_, I know how to search)05:52
Khamaele-head: gnuparted for formatting05:52
e-headI'm afraid my drive is going to go kaput05:52
Khamaele-head: I mean gparted05:53
segfault_e-head, for linux there is really no need, u can use tar to copy the contents in an archive and then reinstall grub if its a bott prt05:53
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hYper_i seems Yahoo changed something and gDesklets won't work05:53
hYper_it*05:53
e-headsegfault_: should I boot to single user mode first ? And have root mounted read only ?  How about the files in /dev/ ?05:54
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atroWorkI have a directory that shows up really weird in 'ls -l' the d flag is a question mark instead, the permissions are all hyphens, user/group/size/date are all question marks too, and the name of the used-to-be-a-directory is red text on a black background.05:54
segfault_e-head, do u want to clone / ?05:54
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e-headexactly05:54
atroWorkI can't rmdir or chmod them, even as root. Anything that tries to access them (including ls) takes a minute or more to process. I just want to delete the directories05:54
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segfault_e-head, ull need a live cd, cant do that while items are mounted05:55
e-headCool05:55
segfault_e-head, err didnt mean while mounted, meant while running os off of them05:55
e-headI'll just download the latest Knoppix05:55
Khamaele-head: there is a gparted livecd, that boots and lets you partition. don`t know about cloning,tho05:55
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e-headAre there any fancy switches I need so the device files get copied right ? And the user permissions and all that ?05:55
Khamaele-head: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php05:56
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Unimatrix9is there an gui program that lets you connect to different wireless networks?05:56
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cd32fanhello05:57
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Khamaelhello cd32fan05:57
cd32fancan anybody help me get Ubuntu online?05:57
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cd32fani am getting white hairs here05:57
Unimatrix9seems to me you are online05:58
Khamaelwhat Unimatrix9 said :P05:58
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Khamaelcd32fan: or do you want to acquire a cd or iso online?05:59
cd32fanbut i am on xp right now05:59
Unimatrix9spell it out, and you might get an answer...:P05:59
ed209ah...05:59
cd32fani have the cd05:59
cd32fani tried to boot05:59
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cd32fanworked ok05:59
ed209but...05:59
cd32fanbut when i tried to get online05:59
cd32fanno connection05:59
ed209twas not successful?05:59
cd32fani have a usb modem05:59
cd32fanno05:59
ed209what type??05:59
cd32fansagem05:59
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Khamaelcd32fan: have you actually installed, or are you just running the livecd?06:00
cd32fani was running of the cd06:00
cd32fangreat work they did for the cd06:00
cd32fanbut still i couldnt use the net..06:01
highnekoAzureus's tray icon is showing up as a vertical white line, and it's hard to click it. Has anyone seen this before? http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/numbers6554/Screenshot7.png06:01
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Khamaelcd32fan: searched the forums?06:01
ajtraynorif your installing unix, what is a boot loader06:01
cd32fani think my modem isnt supported06:02
cd32fani use a usb modem06:02
highnekoajtraynor: It's a program that picks when os to boot. Like start winxp, or ubuntu.06:02
ed209cd32fan:  chances are the sagem usb modem will need additional setup once botted. at a guess its not being automagically configured from the live CD. If this was an install it would be much easier to run through. but any changes you make during your liveCD session will be lost at next reboot06:02
ajtraynorok, so if i want windows to be default, how do i do that06:03
cd32fanhow do i configure my modem,i tried automatic but it did wasnt recognized06:03
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ed209I beleive the modem is supported to what extend I couldn't tell you unless you provide the model number (which I couldn't tell you off the top of my head) you will need to consult with the hardware compatibility guides online for your particular model06:03
cd32fanso its possible this modem isnt compatible06:04
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sureshoted209 does ubuntu support winmodems06:04
ed209its always possible. on the other hand I'd hazard a guess that if you could find the product/model number you will find a compatibility guide online for various distro's06:04
SurfnKidhas anyone successfully gotten an HP laserjet running on ubuntu06:04
ed209yup06:05
ed209got one right here but its on a jetdirect port06:05
cd32fani have the modem installation cd,but it was meant to work on xp06:05
ed209the XP CD will be useless for this instance (ush06:05
SurfnKided209, network port?06:05
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SurfnKidim trying to get a usb hp 3330 running06:06
ed209yes, through cups06:06
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SurfnKidusing hplip right06:06
ed209oh a 33*** series, they're a bit of a pain. are you on 6.06 dapper?06:06
H3b0Rhelp i cant get sound in truecombat:elite!!!06:06
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SurfnKidyep06:06
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SurfnKidits listed as compatible with 0.9.5 driver06:06
phanterhi there, I have problems with a script that should install my lazer printer06:06
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phanterI am not sure where to start with my question without the source of the script... anywabody who would like to help  me with it06:07
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ed209for the 3330 print : - install the default laserjet printer driver under CUPS and use the recommended "laserjet" driver06:07
cd32fanits a Sagem Fast 80806:07
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cd32fanis it compatible?06:07
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ed209don't use the 3300 postscript or other ones06:07
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ed209Sagem Fast 800 series I think is, but only with 5.10 onwards - dapper should be ok. BRB - just checking archives06:08
SurfnKided209, under cups where would that be06:08
phanterhow can I find out my hardware platform (or is it simply i386 ?)06:08
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gnomefreakphanter: what cpu do you have?06:09
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cd32faned209:where can i get the installation files for my modem?06:10
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cd32fancan you provide a link,please06:10
gnomefreakcd32fan: what type of modem?06:10
phantergnomefreak: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz06:10
ed209CD32:looks like you can compile the SAGEM 800 driver yourself but otherwise an installation of additional modules for your kernel is required http://fast800.tuxfamily.org/pub/rubrique.php3?id_rubrique=206:10
gnomefreakphanter: 686 is what you want06:10
phanteroke06:10
ed209cd32:  eg: you would have to first do an installation then add in the modules later06:10
gnomefreaki68606:10
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ed209cd32: better link for your modem:     http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=4596906:11
amukanukHello. I connect to my PC through vnc. I am running this through my current session that can also be viewed at home. How would i go about locking my computers access at home while still allowing me to access it remotely?06:12
cd32faned209:is this an easy install ?06:13
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cd32fanthe modem parts,i mean06:13
Seapig|wrkamukanuk,  --- disconnect the keyboard, monitor and mouse06:13
mjramukanuk, look into running a separate remotely (only) vnc-viewable Xvnc server. This will require some tweaking on your part.06:13
pike_amukanuk: couldnt you just ssh into the computer and do like vncserver :02 then from client  vncviewer ipadd:02 ?06:14
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pike_amukanuk: or :whatever06:14
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sureshotphanter is the a celeron06:16
njalok I need some help with that damn bcm43xx driver, I have a mac running dapper and lsmod shows the driver is runniong and the networeking window shows the connection is active it's just not connection06:17
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SurfnKidcould someone help me set up an HP printer06:18
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SurfnKidthe hplip driver is installed ( partially ) and when running hp-setup no comand is found06:19
[H] 3b0Rhelp i cant get any sound in truecombat:elite!06:19
ahz^hello, can someone tell me how can i change the name of an directory, by my mystake a changed one dir name in ... and i can't find it pleaes06:19
SurfnKid!HP06:20
phanteris anybody who would like to help me with debugging a script?06:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about HP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:20
phanterplease?06:20
SurfnKid!print06:20
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows06:20
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ahz^anyone can help me please ?06:20
ahz^hello, can someone tell me how can i change the name of an directory, by my mystake a changed one dir name in ... and i can't find it please06:21
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BigChirvahz^, oh06:21
BigChirvahz^, open a console06:21
ahz^BigChirv: yes06:21
BigChirvahz^, and write down this06:21
BigChirvahz^, mv ... anewname06:21
ahz^BigChirv "anewname" i put my dir name ?06:22
phanterahz^: and the ... is the oldname06:22
BigChirvahz^, You cannot see it because the files or directories that start with '.' are hidden entries.06:22
BigChirvahz^, yep06:22
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ahz^BigChirv yep i know that dirs starts with "." is hidden06:23
ahz^thanks a lot06:23
BigChirvahz^, yw06:23
BigChirv:-)06:23
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choriis the any other way to remove everything about a package then "apt-get --purge remove package" and "dpkg --purge package"?06:23
phanteroke. I try to install a samsung printer. It used to work, but now the install script gives me strange errors. I am not sure why, but maybe somebody would like to look at it with me?06:23
choribecouse I'm have problem with a installation of pure-ftpd06:24
BigChirvchori, yep, sudo aptitude --purge remove package :-D06:24
choriBigChirv: :)06:24
choriBigChirv: I'm guesing it does the same?06:24
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BigChirvchori, it performs sometimes better than apt-get06:24
phanterBigChirv: Do all these programs not jsut rely on dpkg ???06:24
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BigChirvphanter, yep06:25
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BigChirvphanter, But they have algorithms to solve dependencies between packages06:25
choriBigChirv: so dpkg --purge pure-ftpd should be the best?06:25
choriBigChirv: becouse when I try to reinstall it it doesn't create /etc/pure-ftpd06:25
BigChirvchori, use aptitude instead of dpkg.06:25
choriBigChirv: ok06:26
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phanteroke, in the script it has variables like: $HARDWARE_PLATFORM. I cannot find where they fill this variable, or is it a system variable ?06:26
chorilets se if it works better to install using aptitude06:27
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chorino, still get the same errors :(06:27
BigChirvphanter, Maybe that script is sourced by other one and that variable is defined in that script.06:27
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chorifor some strange reason the install doesn't create /etc/pure-ftpd06:28
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phanterBigChirv: I do not understand the part "sourced by other one"06:28
BigChirvchori, that  is not exactly a error. :-)06:28
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BigChirvchori, Try to create it by yourself, using any example you find on Google06:28
choriBigChirv: it becomes an error when the install tries to start pure-ftpd and cant find /etc/pure-ftpd/conf06:28
BigChirvphanter, A script being called by another "parent" script06:29
choriI have some backups of my old install06:29
chorican use thet06:29
chori*that06:29
BigChirvchori, Good06:29
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phanterWell, the script is called derectly by me :)06:29
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BigChirvOh06:29
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BigChirv:-P06:29
phanterbut it is not a system wide var then?06:29
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BigChirvphanter, echoing it does'nt return any value so I would say that it is not a system variable.06:30
cute_bettongok can someone tell me why i cannot send or receve files through gaim from windows users? i do have a router is there something im missing?06:30
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J-Kyow06:31
J-Kwhat version comes with xgl??06:31
XplOzIoncute_bettong, maybe incoming port is blocked by router06:31
phantercute_bettong: my experience is that sending and receiving is very slow, but it should work06:31
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J-Ki have 6.6 gnome is pretty good but i saw xgl on gootube... i want thatt!06:32
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choriok, and what do I need to solve the errors about tls?06:32
cute_bettongok what ports does it use?06:32
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crynosphereis there anyone who can help me wit linux06:33
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cute_bettongmost of us here :306:33
choricrynosphere: with what?06:33
cute_bettongwhatcha need?06:33
BigChirvlol for free?06:33
BigChirvx-D06:33
cute_bettongand what ports does game use06:33
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cute_bettonggaim i mean06:33
crynospherecool06:33
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cd32fancan anyone provide a link to the modem sagem fast modules,please06:34
crynospherei need help i got ubuntu on pc pro mag and it says i need to burn it to disk but its not a iso its a zip file and if i burmn wast in the file to disk it does not boot from that disk06:34
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bakertcute_bettong,    1.  443 -> MSN (ssl)06:35
bakert   2. 1863 -> MSN06:35
bakert   3. 5050 -> Yahoo06:35
bakert   4. 5190 -> AIM/ICQ06:35
bakert   5. 5222 -> Jabber (including Google Talk)06:35
bakert   6. 6667 -> IRC06:35
phantercrynosphere: and what is in the zip file ?06:35
trevXORHi how do I uninstall a program that I installed manually through the source code? i tried dpkg -r, but I keep getting this: "dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove acroread, only the config06:35
trevXOR files of which are on the system.  Use --purge to remove them too.06:35
trevXOR" which I don't understand06:35
choricrynosphere: no idea, why don't you just download it?06:35
XplOzIondoes anyone has experience with pure-ftpd im having some problems that i cant fix. Thanks if you can help me06:35
crynosphereits like a bunch of folders06:35
crynosphereand files06:35
crynospherenot 1 iso06:35
choriXplOzIon: Me too :D06:35
phantercrynosphere: so why do you not download the iso file ?06:35
choriXplOzIon: what problem do you have?06:35
BigChirvtrevXOR, Just delete its files and direcroties. Be careful. :-)06:35
crynospherei dont have enough bandwidth06:36
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XplOzIonchori: well i can login using SSL for some reason it wont let me, but i do can login with TLS protocol06:36
cute_bettongbakert those udp or tcp?06:36
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phantercrynosphere: well then it will be a bit more complecated :)06:36
crynospherephanter i can give u a screenshot06:36
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phantercrynosphere: not needed. how dit you get this zip file?06:37
choriXplOzIon: ok, cant help you. Haven't got ssl/tls to work. How did you get that to work?06:37
EidolosI'm having trouble with my sound. It's playing at like 75% speed (very disorienting for music..). I've tried switching my player (happens in amaroK and the play utility, even in Firefox) and I've tried switching amaroK's sound engine from alsa to oss to esd all to no avail.06:38
crynospherei got it of the pc pro mag06:38
trevXORBigChirv: Cheers!06:38
brenlaeanybody fancy James Blunt?06:38
brenlaegreat singer, i have his album, Back to Bedlum06:38
XplOzIonchori: i configure it this way "./configure --with-everything --with-paranoidmsg --with-virtualchroot --with-tls --with-largefile --with-mysql"06:38
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choriXplOzIon: ok, you didn't use apt to install it?06:38
XplOzIonno06:39
XplOzIonchori: no i used source :P06:39
choriXplOzIon: did you add anything to the config files to get it working?06:39
choriXplOzIon: ok, isn't it the latest version in "universe"?06:39
crynospheredo u want the screenie phanter06:39
Alakazamz0rthis is the bomb shit: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8364765888913844739&sourceid=docidfeed&hl=en06:39
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XplOzIonchori: no i didnt add anothyng, it depends how to start it my friend06:39
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phantercrynosphere: well, I don't think that will be very usefull, but where did you get the zip file from?06:40
cd32fanhow do i remove the older modules for the modem?06:40
MagicFabwhere should / can I ask about dvgrab ? I can't capture live video without the camera being in record mode (which wears heads) and if I do It without a tape, the camera shutsdown automatically after ~10 min06:40
choriXplOzIon: yes I know, but you can add things to the config dir instead06:40
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crynospherei got it from the pc pro mag dvd its on the dvd but it says burn iso but it aint a iso06:40
Justy-hello06:40
cd32fanhow do i summon the comand prompt on the ubuntu desktop?06:40
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CarlFKcd32fan: apps, Accesories, Terminal06:41
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phantercrynosphere: oke send me a screenie06:41
XplOzIonchori: i didnt add anything, just configured it like i told you, and to have TLS/SSL working you need to start it using -Y #06:41
cd32fanthanks06:41
crynosphereit sending can u see it06:41
phanterno, you cannot send it over irc06:41
CarlFKwhat is the lightest BT client that will let me pick a file from a multi file torrent?06:41
cd32fanhow do i remove older modem modules,where are they located?06:42
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choriXplOzIon: ok06:42
crynospheredo u have skype06:42
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Justy-question: i have installed NetworkManager and accidently i typed in a password when it prompted me.. i just want to disable that password that it asks me everytime connecting to a network =(06:42
phanteryes, but I prefer a dumb website06:42
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choriXplOzIon: becouse I use the config-directory, thinks it's easier06:42
crynosphereplz can we use skype06:42
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crynospheremy username is "sean_sylvia"06:42
CarlFKcrynosphere: skype is crap - you should not encourage others to use it06:42
phantercrynosphere: I prefer not to06:43
jokoonHello, I need help : I recently installed ubuntu and I don't have internet on it. the connection requires a login/pass and I successfuly configured it on windows without installed anything. (details of on how I did it : http://docs.google.com/View?docid=ddt7pq6_10chwgtw )06:43
crynosphereok06:43
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crynospherewat can i use06:43
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phanterCarlFK: where can somebody dumb screenshots again???06:43
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CarlFKcrynosphere: check out ... Ekigina - it was installed with Dapper - never used it, but if it is part of the base install...06:43
axeeOohi, im trying to get java working. When I type "java version" in terminal I get this error: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: version06:43
axeeOoany idea why?06:43
CarlFKphanter: um... one of the paste sites... leme look06:43
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jamxaxeeOo: did u type java version or java --version?06:44
XplOzIonchori: what you mean using the configuration folder??06:44
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crynospherei dont have dapper on my system06:44
choriXplOzIon: Instead of starting it with flags you can add files with the values06:44
Justy-Hello! my question: I have installed NetworkManager and accidentlyIi typed in a password when it prompted me.. I just want to disable that password that it asks me everytime connecting to a network =(06:44
phantercrynosphere: that is what we are working on isn't it :)06:44
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crynosphereyip06:44
XplOzIonchori: oh yeah thats right06:45
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AbortDanyone know why flash is all laggy in ubuntu?06:45
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choriXplOzIon: thinks it easier06:45
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phantergrrr. cannot remember the dumb/paste websites. anybody who can help me out ?06:45
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IcemanV9all of sudden, special keys for z60m sound (mute, down, up buttons) disappeared today. all i could remember was that i installed htop last night. i would like to have special keys back the way it was. arrgh.06:45
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georgy! pastebin06:45
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:46
XplOzIonchori: yeah, but since my server doesnt ever restart or reboot :P i wish i could fix this SSL problem, and FXP transfer speed06:46
axeeOojamx, i typed "java version"06:46
choriXplOzIon: :D06:46
phantergeorgy: is there such a service for screenshots as well ?06:46
choriXplOzIon: sorry, but I cant help you06:46
jamxaxeeOo: then try --version :)06:47
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axeeOojamx: alex@alex-desktop:~$ java --version06:47
axeeOoUnrecognized option: --version06:47
axeeOoCould not create the Java virtual machine.06:47
georgyphanter : don't know06:47
truiuaxeeOo: use java -version06:47
GarbaekHow do I modify mysql settings so its not creating "Created_tmp_disk_tables"06:47
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Justy-Hello! my question: I have installed NetworkManager and accidently, I typed in a password when it prompted me.. I just want to disable that password that it asks me everytime connecting to a network =(06:47
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JosefKJusty-: that's gnome-keyring, right?06:48
CarlFKphanter: i just checked the 4 or so I use - no luck -06:48
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phantercrynosphere: oke, it will get more difficult then...06:48
Justy-JosefK, i dont know06:48
JosefKJusty-: there's the wireless key, and there's gnome-keyring that stores the saved wireless-key06:48
crynospherei have it on a image site (WELL I BUSY PUTTING IT ON ONE NOW06:48
crynosphere)06:48
JosefKJusty-: you can 'apt-get install gnome-keyring-manager' to play around with your saved passwords06:48
axeeOojamx or truiu, thanks, now when i type "javac Classname.java" it compiles fine, but when I type "java classname.class" I get the exception in thread main error06:49
phantercrynosphere: oke perfect :)06:49
JosefKJusty-: deleting the stored password using gnome-keyring-manager should have the desired effect06:49
crynospherephanter plz join #helpme06:49
axeeOoIt includes no libs, its a simple hello world app06:49
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truiuaxeeOo: just java classname06:49
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Justy-JosefK, thanks =)06:49
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axeeOotruiu, I am enlightened. Thanks06:49
JosefKJusty-: np's :)06:49
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Justy-JosefK, ops.. I think it shows only the passwords for WEP and WPA06:51
SuperMiguelhwo can i change my computer name?06:51
choriSubhuman: /etc/hostname06:51
JosefKJusty-: indeed, you can delete the entire keyring if you want06:51
Justy-JosefK, but i need to delete the nm-applet 's key06:51
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Justy-JosefK, i hope i could make myself understandable06:52
JosefKJusty-: gnome-keyring stores nm-applet's key06:52
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JosefKJusty-: hehe, I think I get it - the nm-applet key is stored in gnome-keyring, when you login it's gnome-keyring asking you for the keyring password06:52
SuperMiguelhow can i change my computer name?06:52
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Subhumanchori, ?06:53
Subhumani didnt ask a question.06:53
Justy-JosefK, yes i think that one is correct06:53
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choriSubhuman: sorry?06:53
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choriSubhuman: ah...sorry :D06:53
Subhuman:)06:53
JosefKJusty-: I'm not sure if you can setup a keyring without a password, I guess you could delete the entire keyring, logout/login again and try?06:53
choriSuperMiguel: /etc/hostname06:53
hardkaareHi, is there any of the rhythmbox or Banshee that can download art/cover pictures by itself?06:54
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Justy-JosefK, there are 2 keyrings here, one for a wireless network called "asus_router" and one called "benq"06:54
Justy-JosefK, do you want me to delete both?06:54
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gortizsomeone could help me with xgl06:54
JosefKJusty-: those are both keys :) the keyring is what they're stored in06:55
pike_!xgl > gortiz06:55
Garbaek!xgl > Garbaek06:55
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Garbaekhmm06:55
Justy-JosefK, ewww hang on06:55
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gortizi have installed compiz & xgl06:55
gortizbut i don't know how to set them up06:55
cd32fanthanks for the help ;)06:55
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JosefKJusty-: that may well be the 'default' keyring06:56
JosefKJusty-: in which case, see if you can change/remove the password from within gnome-keyring-manager :/06:56
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Justy-JosefK, brb06:58
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JosefKJusty-: rgr06:58
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boinkif you want to use smbfs, you need to lsmod the smbfs module?06:59
boinkI can't mount any samba/windows shares onto mybox06:59
kmaynardjust isntall it06:59
kmaynardinstall06:59
boinkI've installed smbfs already06:59
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MilesHi there06:59
poncho1!postfix06:59
ubotupostfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto06:59
JosefKboink: it'll be loaded automatically, as needed06:59
pike_boink: lsmod just lists modules.  modprobe would be what you wanted if lsmod did not show it already07:00
boinkdamm .. I'll I get is "Access denied"07:00
Miles!xgl07:00
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j-jhey all im quite new to linux and need help is there possibly anyone who can help me set up my wireless network  i have downloaded madWifi i cant work out how to install it and need a bit of help from here on please07:00
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xuehi'm using 6.06 dapper, with als1.0.13rc3, but still no sound, does any one know is there a but here for my sound card hda-intel ICH707:00
jadacyrus If I install a kernel.org kernel on UBuntu, will it break?07:01
SeanTater!wifi > j-j07:01
gileswtry out the network-manage j-j07:01
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kmaynardboink, you may want to try #samba ... smart people in there07:01
JohnFlux_what's the ubuntu dev chat room please?07:01
boinkyou're smart too07:01
boink:)07:01
kmaynard!wireless > j-j07:01
boinkodd .. you said it should have automagically loaded the mod smbfs, but it didn't07:01
gileswwhat cd/dvd burning app do you guys recommend?07:01
pike_jadacyrus: you can boot whatever kernel you want if it doesnt work just boot the old one np07:01
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SeanTaterJohnFlux_: #ubuntu-devel07:02
jadacyruspike_: okay, how do I go abotu safely installing the kernel.org kernel?07:02
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JosefKjadacyrus: you don't, it isn't safe, it may/may-not work07:02
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JosefKjadacyrus: on dapper you stand little chance, edgy is more optimistic07:02
jadacyrusim on edgy07:02
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Justy-JosefK, back07:03
jadacyrusThe only reason im sayin this is the nvidia people told me to do it because their drivers keep crashing my system07:03
Justy-JosefK, http://justyy.by.ru/1.png07:03
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JosefKjadacyrus: you can use make-kpkg to build the kernel into .deb's, so it's fairly easy to remove - plenty of stuff on google about building a kernel for Debian/Ubuntu07:03
bieb_workI am trying to load Ubuntu on a system with a gigabyte GA-K8U-939, I have 2 80gb HDD in RAID1, but it looks like Ubuntu is not seeing the RAID config...07:03
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SeanTaterjadacyrus: are you using the i386 it i686 kernel?07:03
jadacyrusi686 (generic)07:03
JosefKJusty-: that's asking you for the keyring password :)07:03
SeanTaterjadacyrus: I had a few problems with i686 + nvidia07:03
xabarasragazzi xgl con xfce  partito07:03
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xabarasma come faccio a far partire beryl con xgl07:04
SeanTaterjadacyrus: it maybe a good idea to at least try i386 before you break your system07:04
jadacyrusive tried i38607:04
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jadacyrussame problem07:04
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jadacyrusIm on a core duo system07:04
SeanTaterjadacyrus: okay then -- enjoy compiling07:04
Justy-JosefK, It says in bold: Please enter password to open key of default keyring :s07:04
jadacyrusso im using an SMP kernel currently07:04
ddoidcan ne1 give me workin repositories ? universal07:05
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JosefKJusty-: looks like it may well ask you that anyway even if there isn't a password :/07:05
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Justy-JosefK, and continues: 'nm-applet' wants to reach default keyring but keyring is locked07:05
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profoX`so...07:05
jadacyrusbleh, i dont feel like compiling a kernel right now. i just woke up heh. Ill just wait till edgy gets better07:05
profoX`why can't I grab the drivers for 2 different graphic cards07:05
profoX`from apt-get ?07:05
SeanTaterddoid: say !repositories07:05
ddoidthanx07:05
ddoid!repositories07:06
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kmaynard!video07:06
ubotuFor multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications07:06
Justy-JosefK, bah, at least that is better =/ I am just gonna hit enter and go on ...07:06
kmaynard!nvidia07:06
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:06
kmaynard!nvidia > profoX`07:06
profoX`kmaynard: eeuh no07:06
profoX`kmaynard: I want to install the fglrx AND nvidia driver07:06
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profoX`kmaynard: i have 2 graphics cards07:06
Jay__hi all07:06
JosefKJusty-: heh :/ I don't think you'll be able to stop network-manager doing that, I have the same problem - just shrugged and accepted it after a while07:07
Jay__i just installed ubuntu and my comp works 100% faster!07:07
profoX`but apt-get says fglrx + nvidia conflicts07:07
SeanTaterkmaynard: use /msg07:07
boinkthat's good news, Jay07:07
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profoX`guess someone didnt take in account that you could have 2 different graphic cards07:07
profoX`in 1 machine07:07
profoX`so i have to compile 1 manually and hope that works without interfering the other driver07:07
kmaynardgl07:07
Justy-JosefK, you are patient maybe... but i am not =(07:08
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ddoid!repositories07:08
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jadacyrusprofoX: yeah i went through that crap to try to get my dual head working, i just ended up ripping out the ATI and getting a new nvidia card that has an extra DVI out07:08
JosefKJusty-: heh :P in the end it's a feature of the keyring manager, it's what I'd expect if I was using it to store other keys07:08
LjLprofoX`: well FYI and FWIW, in edgy i don't seem to see a conflict between the two drivers07:08
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profoX`LjL: well using dapper.. edgy is not stable yet07:08
SeanTaterJay__: good!07:09
Justy-JosefK, also i am curious to solve that problem :p07:09
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LjLprofoX`: as i said, fwiw07:09
profoX`LjL: so xorg-driver-fglrx doesnt conflict with xorg-driver-nvidia (or how it is called)07:09
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profoX`hm thats good news07:09
worzelwhen will edgy come out?07:09
gileswend of the month07:09
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profoX`LjL: whats that site that lists all those acronyms like fwiw :)07:09
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SeanTater!schedule > worzel07:09
LaneWhat repository could I use to get dsniff for Ubuntu Server?07:09
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gnomefreakworzel: ask in #ubuntu+107:10
Justy-gilesw, will we be able to updgrade dapper to edgy thru apt ?07:10
xavI hope it comes out when it's ready07:10
SeanTaterLane: I'd guess universe07:10
profoX`Justy-: yes..07:10
gileswsure07:10
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xavand not before07:10
ajtraynorlads, i need help, i jut installed ubuntu, and it wont connect to my wireless network, what may be the problem07:10
Justy-profoX`, gilesw, I LOVE UBUNTU!07:10
gnomefreakJusty-: yes and please take all edgy questions to #ubuntu+107:10
gileswheh07:10
javiolowhat version should I install for a intel core duo 2 ?07:10
AbortDscrew updating im doing a fresh install :/07:10
SeanTaterLane: Yep, it's in universe07:10
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Justy-gnomefreak, awf sorry that was just a little question07:10
BigChirvjaviolo, Intel version07:10
SeanTaterJusty-: Good!07:10
profoX`as long as you have your /home and your list of packages, I prefer fresh installs too07:10
gileswyou should try out the aiglx effects justy07:10
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AbortDmy luck usually when i update things get screwy07:11
javiolobirchirv its 64bits07:11
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ddoidit says failed to each repository... why? i have my network set up ok07:11
LjLprofoX`: ah no, actually i only checked the "nvidia-glx" package, which doesn't say it conflicts with any fglrx package. the packages with names beginning with "fglrx-*" on the other hand seem to have some problems -- i.e. they don't show up with "show". and "xorg-driver-fglrx" does list a conflit with nvidia-glx07:11
gileswi'm just trying to work out what apps to use07:11
LjLprofoX`: i don't know off hand, but fwiw = for what is worth, and fyi = for your information07:11
ajtraynorim setting up my wireless network and it wont work07:11
gnomefreakJusty-: little or not but with 800+ users one little question can become a landslide of questions07:11
gileswamaroks quite cool07:11
profoX`LjL: i knew fyi :)07:11
ajtraynorand it doesnt give any reason why07:11
profoX`LjL: sigh.. guess i'll post a bug report07:12
BigChirvajtraynor, Maybe your WiFi card is not supported.07:12
ajtraynori just open firefoxand nothing appears07:12
gileswajtraynor:  try network-manager package07:12
ajtraynorit is becuse i did it before07:12
ajtraynorwhats the network manager package07:12
MaKaTiGuYhi guys07:12
MaKaTiGuYheed some help07:12
gileswit's just a gui for network settings07:12
gileswgood though07:13
LaneSeanTater, thanks07:13
BigChirvajtraynor, A program that lets you configure your network interfaces from GNOME07:13
SuperMiguelhow can i change my default browser on KDE to firefox?07:13
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Lanegot it07:13
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ajtraynorok, how do i access it07:13
LjLprofoX`: out of curiosity -- how can you have two modern cards in one computer? pci-e?07:13
MaKaTiGuYhow can i transfer my partiton drive which is located in the /temp folder07:13
BigChirvajtraynor, Install it with synaptics07:13
javiolowhat version should I install for a intel core duo 2, its 64bits07:13
profoX`LjL: actually, my friend is having the problem :)07:13
MaKaTiGuY"/tmp/disks-conf-hda6"07:13
profoX`LjL: and why can't you have 2 cards?07:14
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ajtraynorim totally new to this07:14
profoX`LjL: be it AGP or PCI-X07:14
LjLSuperMiguel: System Settings / Default programs07:14
ajtraynorwhats synaptics07:14
gileswthe package manager07:14
boinkthe graphical package manager07:14
LjLprofoX`: well, because i've only ever seen motherboards with one AGP slot. PCI-Express is just a technology i really don't know much about, so i asked07:14
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ajtraynorwhere do i fnd the packet manager07:14
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gileswtop left menus07:15
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pike_javiolo: i would instal the 386 version and just apt-get a 686 kernel with smp support.  no real reason to go with 6407:15
boinkSystem -> Administration -> Syna07:15
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ajtraynorok, gotta go07:15
ajtraynorthans07:15
BigChirvajtraynor, Eh a package manager. Click on the Applications menu, then "Add and remove soft" (at the end of the menu)07:15
BigChirvUh07:15
SuperMiguelLjL: where?07:15
profoX`LjL: oh really? i don't know alot about motherboards.. I thought they had more AGP slots... I'll ask the guy next time I talk to him07:15
LjLSuperMiguel: in the K menu07:15
boinkooops then07:15
javiolopike_ so no need to 64bits ?07:15
boinkI just use apt-get ... old fashioned way, I know07:15
ddoidhow to fix broken repositories? i can ping and surf but cant apt-get update ? why?07:15
pike_javiolo: there will be no performace increase and you will probably run into problems if you do.  but you could tryit07:16
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MaKaTiGuYhow can i transfer my partiton drive which is located in the /temp folder07:16
profoX`javiolo: 64bits version of ubuntu? better not use it if you don't know what you're doing07:16
profoX`32bits has better compatibility with drivers nd proprietary software07:16
gileswi tried 64bit07:16
SuperMiguelLjL: there is no system setings07:16
MaKaTiGuY"/tmp/disks-conf-hda6"07:16
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gileswgave up in the end07:16
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profoX`and 64bits doesnt give you much advantage..07:16
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gileswjust not worth the hastle07:16
SuperMiguelLjL: you says on the kcontrol?07:16
profoX`maybe a LITTLE speed bump..07:16
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profoX`but it needs more RAM too..07:16
gileswnone of the apps had 64bit compiles07:16
LjLSuperMiguel: no, i say in the K menu. the menu that lists all your applications.07:16
javioloprofox ok why ?07:16
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LjLSuperMiguel: though you can also find it in KControl for that matter, under "KDE components"07:17
QuoVadisHi!07:17
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profoX`javiolo: well.. 32bits ubuntu will run fine on your 64bit machine, and 64bit machines don't really perform twice as good, maybe they perform a _little_ bit better in some areas, but not much! and 64bit distributions also require more RAM.. it's not worth the hassle.. because alot of applications don't work in 64bit without messing around alot, like Flash player, w32codecs, other proprietary stuff like Skype.. etc...07:18
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sureshothey all wich is the better kernal the 386 or the 686 and what is the difference07:18
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bluszczhi, where i can find mkinitrd in dapper?07:18
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profoX`javiolo: windows 64bit has the same problem by the way07:18
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eraccHi, sureshot. :-)07:19
profoX`can i see the conflicting packages for 1 package with apt-cache (or with something else) ?07:19
sureshothi eracc how are you07:19
sureshoteracc did you get my email07:19
profoX`sureshot: depends on your processor07:19
MrObviousHello.07:19
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sureshoti have a m65 intel p4 at 2gh07:20
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eraccsureshot, about the quad processor boards I quoted you? Yes. If you sent another then, no.07:20
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MrObviousCan someone mention an app that allows me to connect to Windows Terminal Services?07:20
profoX`686 kernel is optimized for pentium 2 and higher I think.. difference is small though07:20
georgebMrObvious: krdc07:20
hegemonI need to reconfigure my network interface. is there a commad to run the network configuration as is done during installation?07:20
MrObviousgeorgeb: Gracias :)07:20
georgebMrObvious: np07:20
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sureshoteracc i just cant afford at the moment is all07:20
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profoX`sureshot: 686 will probably perform a little better, install linux-68607:20
sureshoti want to do that as soon as i get the money07:20
bluszczhi, where i can find mkinitrd in dapper?07:20
eraccsureshot, yeah, those quad boards are pricey. :-)07:20
profoX`sureshot: but not that much..07:20
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TheGateKeeperwhat's the apt-get command for listing the updates?07:21
bluszczinitrd-toolls07:21
bluszczthanks guys07:21
sureshotprofoX please explain for my knowlege07:21
profoX`LjL: oh really.. i tried that, and I grepped "conflict" but couldnt see it, maybe its 'Conflict" with a capital.. hmm..07:21
LjLprofoX`: yeah it is07:21
profoX`LjL: yep.. indeed07:21
profoX`stupid me :)07:21
profoX`well you're right ..07:21
profoX`guess i'll post a bug about it: Conflicts: fglrx-driver, xfree86-driver-fglrx, nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-legacy07:22
georgebprofoX`: try grep -i conflict for case insensitive match07:22
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profoX`georgeb: thanks for the hint07:22
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sureshoteracc what is the syntax to install the 686 kernel07:22
LjLprofoX`: well, before posting a bug, i'd check that they actually don't conflict -- maybe there's some reason why you actually *can't* have both installed07:22
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bieb_workI am trying to load Ubuntu on a system with a gigabyte GA-K8U-939, I have 2 80gb HDD in RAID1, but it looks like Ubuntu is not seeing the RAID config...Anyone have an idea of what to check first?07:22
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MaKaTiGuYcan someone help me07:23
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eraccsureshot, I don't know. I've not done that myself.07:23
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LjLprofoX`: (well, or running concurrently at least)07:23
AvatarXFinally I am running ATI + 3D + Dapper07:23
profoX`LjL: hmm yea.. does seem odd to me..07:23
profoX`LjL: but..07:23
AvatarXFinally I am running ATI + 3D + Edgy07:23
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sureshotcan someone tell me the syntax for the command to install the 686 kernel07:23
profoX`LjL: well.. i'll tell my friend to compile and try fglrx..07:23
LjLprofoX`: just a hypothesis07:23
profoX`instead of installing it through apt-get..07:23
profoX`hope he knows how :)07:23
LjLprofoX`: well, perhaps you can force apt-get if you try hard enough...07:23
ephemerosyo07:23
informatica_hola07:24
jhasseWhy can't i find the "csm" package with synaptic?07:24
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LjLprofoX`: or dpkg even, since apt-get doesn't have many forceful options07:24
georgebjhasse: probably is not in the repos07:24
profoX`LjL: yea probably, something like --force-install probably..07:24
profoX`but i dont know if that works for conflicts07:24
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LjLprofoX`: yeah, there's a "--force-conflicts"07:25
jhassegeorgeb,  do you know where i can get a repos with this package in it?07:25
blesswhat key is the "return" key in the console?07:25
georgebjhasse: I think is in one of this repos: deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/ dapper main   or   deb http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main07:25
profoX`LjL: ok..07:25
LjLprofoX`: conflicts: Install, even if it conflicts with another package. This is dangerous, for it will usually cause overwriting of some files.07:25
georgebbless: the enter :)07:25
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profoX`LjL: but isnt that dangerous :) since it conflicts..07:25
profoX`well07:25
profoX`I can imagine07:25
profoX`that they both change some GL file07:25
sureshotcan someone tell me the syntax for the command to install the 686 kernel07:25
profoX`and thats why they could conflict07:25
LjLprofoX`: no more dangerous than compiling and sticking files all around, i'd imagine07:25
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profoX`LjL: very true..07:25
Dr_willis!info kernel-68607:26
ubotuPackage kernel-686 does not exist in any distro I know07:26
profoX`LjL: but i don't want to cause problems on someone elses pc.. but well.. i guess if I force it, it will just make 1 of those 2 working07:26
profoX`!info linux-68607:26
ubotulinux-686: Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.25 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB07:26
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profoX`LjL: and thats all I need to know..07:26
sureshotthanks07:26
bluszcz!info barrage07:26
ubotubarrage: Rather violent action game. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-1 (dapper), package size 397 kB, installed size 1952 kB07:26
LjLprofoX`: i understand, well, you could probably file the bug anyway07:26
MaKaTiGuYhow can i transfer this one to other location /tmp/disks-conf-hda1?07:26
bluszcz!info ubuntu07:27
ubotuPackage ubuntu does not exist in any distro I know07:27
profoX`sureshot: sudo apt-get install linux-686     that should get you everything, kernel + restricted-modules07:27
profoX`I think?07:27
sureshotbrb goint to install it from the synatpic and reboot07:27
profoX`sureshot: yea synaptic works too07:27
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bluszcz!help07:27
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage07:27
arepiei've installed my fglrx ati driver, but, why does my OpenGL is still mesa?07:27
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bluszczarepie: it depends07:27
jhassegeorgeb, yes, me too. But i have added them but it isn't in them. I also get erros when apt-get update07:27
sureshothey profoX thanks man going to do that right now07:27
profoX`arepie: did you restart X ?07:27
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arepiei did restart X07:27
bluszczarepie: what doues your X log says?07:27
bluszczwhat does dmesg says?07:27
arepiecould you explaint.. im new07:28
CarlFKdid the paste used to have a "upload screen shot" option ?07:28
profoX`LjL: yea... but I think I better do a little research first..07:28
MaKaTiGuYhow can i transfer this one to other location /tmp/disks-conf-hda1?07:28
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shuanhi07:28
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tom``I just upgraded x with apt-get and now it won't start anymore07:28
jhassegeorgeb, http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/4236/07:28
CarlFKor, anyone know a paste site that has a "upload screen shot" option ?07:28
profoX`arepie: do ALT+F2 and type in the commandbox: gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log07:29
shuancan someone help me? i'm trying to install my Epson DX3800 usb printer to ubuntu!?07:29
CarlFKtom``: huh?  what command?07:29
profoX`copy-paste everything thats there on a website like www.pastebin.ca arepie07:29
bieb_workAnyone have an idea on the RAID issue I posted??07:29
tom``I remember this problem from before, I need towngrade to an earlier version, but it's a little hard to find outw from the command line... anyone got the instructions?07:29
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tom``towngrade=downgrade07:29
arepieprofoX`: here you go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26330/07:30
MaKaTiGuY?07:30
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ericio6could anybody advie how to get msn working on ubunto yahoo working but msn wont complete connection       n07:30
profoX`ericio6: gaim?07:30
LjLtom``: citygrade?07:30
CarlFKericio6: using gaim?07:31
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ericio6gaim or kopete07:31
ericio6trying both07:31
ajtraynori checked all packages, everything is up, but my wireless connection wont work07:31
profoX`arepie: you don't seem to have configured Xorg to use the fglrx driver.. what install instructions did you use?07:31
profoX`arepie: did you do: sudo aticonfig --initial        after installation?07:31
LjLtom``, is that dapper?07:31
tom``yes07:31
ajtraynorand it worked before in previous installation07:31
bieb_workthere may be an issue with the way Gaim tries to connect to msn... it fails on my windoze box at work07:31
arepieprofoX`: yes i did07:31
MaKaTiGuYanyone?07:32
ajtraynorand i checked the cd for defects07:32
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ajtraynorits somethign smal07:32
ajtraynorany ideas?07:32
geniusvicksI downloaded Xgl how Do i  make it work?07:32
Justy-!pastebin07:32
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:32
profoX`arepie: can you ALT+F2 and type: gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf          I think that one line is wrong there..07:32
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MaKaTiGuYanyone?07:32
bieb_workmsn and Yahoo have both been known to change their logins to break the multi chat progs.. like gaim, trillian etc07:32
profoX`geniusvicks: you _downloaded_ ? how?07:32
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profoX`geniusvicks: source code or did you download it through apt-get ?07:32
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geniusvicksit wuz there in Synaptic07:32
georgebjhasse: I don't spot the error; from what I see it's ok; now try sudo apt-get install csm07:33
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LjLtom``: well, out of my mind, i can think of uninstalling the current version, commenting out the security reps (if that's where the update came from), reinstalling, uncommenting the reps, and marking the relevant packages as "on hold" using dpkg07:33
tom``whoops, just hit the wrong key and logged myself out :p07:33
geniusvicksprofoX`: from Synaptic07:33
arepieprofoX`: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26332/ here it is07:33
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profoX`geniusvicks: go here for install instructions: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu07:33
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ajtraynorwhy wont my wireless connection work07:33
profoX`the XGL wiki page is up to date07:33
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MaKaTiGuYgenuis: can you help me?07:33
arepieprofoX`: you might want my lspci rite?07:34
profoX`arepie: not necessary..07:34
tom``LjL: thanks, I'll try that07:34
LjLtom``: also, if this may be of help, the package "links2" is a web browser that allows graphical browsing without X07:34
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arepieok07:34
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profoX`arepie: what graphics card do you have? a newer ati graphics card ?07:34
profoX`which one exactly? do you know07:34
sureshothey all i am downloading the 686 kernel right now my i ask what the difference would be between it and the 386 please07:34
profoX`sureshot: I already explained...07:34
profoX`sureshot: 686 might give you a _little_ speedbump07:35
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profoX`sureshot: because its optimized for pentium 2 and higher.. but it won't give you anything special07:35
sureshotprofoXwhy is what i want to know sorry i am trying to learn evry thing i can07:35
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MaKaTiGuYprofox:Xhow do i transfer this one to other location /tmp/disks-conf-hda1?07:35
arepieprofoX`: if you wanted to see my lspci here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26334/07:35
sureshotok that is good enoungh i need to reboot chat with you and a few07:35
profoX`MaKaTiGuY: what is "this one" ?07:35
profoX`sureshot: gl07:36
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arepieprofoX`: im using ati radeon 9600 pro07:36
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geniusvicksMaKaTiGuY: What is ur problem?07:36
ajtraynorwheres a support page for setting up or connecting to wireless network07:36
sivikhow do i turn on ftp?  i already have the stuff installed07:36
MaKaTiGuYgenuis: how do i transfer this one to other location /tmp/disks-conf-hda1?07:36
LjLtom``: but couldn't you perhaps get X to work again temporarily by telling it to use the VESA driver instead of whatever card specific driver you're using?07:36
profoX`arepie: that one is fully supported by fglrx.. but one line is wrong in xorg.conf .. thats strange..07:36
profoX`arepie: you could do it automatically or change it manually.. try it automatically and tell me what the output of the command is..07:37
profoX`arepie: open up a terminal window07:37
arepieok07:37
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profoX`arepie: and then type: sudo aticonfig --initial07:37
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profoX`arepie: what does that give you?07:37
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arepieprofoX`: i've pasted in private07:38
profoX`arepie: ok07:38
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Jay__how do i get kde?07:39
MaKaTiGuYprofox: can i unmount my other partition that is in /temp directory07:39
LjLJay__: "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop"07:39
Jay__then what LjL?07:39
LjLJay__: then you have kde07:39
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Jay__so how do i get it in kde instead of gnome and vice-versa after that LjL?07:40
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LjLJay__: at the login screen, click "Options", and choose a KDE session07:40
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LjLJay__: and if you want to have KDE's login manager (KDM) instead of Gnome's one (GDM), type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"07:41
sureshotprofoX i changed my session over to xgl and and started beryl and it runs a lot smoother and some what faster thanks07:41
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craigbass1976I can't ssh into my ubuntu box, but I can ssh out of it.  Is the firewall blocking me?  From what I've read, there's no rules in te firewall.  Where is the iptables file?07:42
bayziderhey i need help instaling a windows progam using wine. I installed it and it installed to my desktop under [program name}.exe.ink07:42
LjLcraigbass1976: do you have "openssh-server" installed?07:42
Jay__im new to this linux thin07:42
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Jay__*thing07:42
boinkok07:43
craigbass1976LjL, Probably not.  Where is the file called iptables?07:43
LjLcraigbass1976: "iptables" is a command. don't know if there's also a file named that07:43
ZaggynlAnyone knows how to get rid of this error: 'ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:762:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports only playback stream'? I get it when accessing the wine audio tab07:43
LjLcraigbass1976: and, on a default ubuntu, you should have no firewalling iptables rules enabled anyway07:43
craigbass1976The command adds lines to the file.  In RH systems, it's in /etc/sysconfig but there's no such directory in Ubuntu.07:43
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profoX`sureshot: no problem.. it won't be that much faster though.. maybe a little bit.. i don't really notice much difference myself07:44
bayziderdoes any one know what to do from there?07:44
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LjLJay__: well, just do what i said, it ought to get you into KDE at once.07:44
craigbass1976Well, I'm going to be running mysql and ssh, so I want some rules.07:44
Zaggynlfirestarter ftw07:44
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LjLcraigbass1976: if you say it does add lines to a file, that might be... i didn't know so07:44
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LjLcraigbass1976: perhaps you want to look at the "iptables-save" and "iptables-restore" commands07:45
boinkand the iptables flush commands too07:45
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craigbass1976LjL, No, I'd rather just edit the file by hand.07:46
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boinkthen make yourself a file. you want to block all ports except ssh?07:46
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craigbass1976THere's already a file; I want to knwo if anyone knows where it is.07:47
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sureshotprofoX i changed my session over to xgl and and started beryl and it runs a lot smoother and some what faster thanks07:47
boinkso, there's a file?07:47
LjLcraigbass1976: http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_iptables_sarge <- look at the section named "The main files"07:47
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sureshotit is raning out side so i will not be on much it knocks out my sat internet so that is annoying07:47
bayziderso no one knows?07:47
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boinkfar as I know, there isn't a file at all.07:47
boinkyou need to make it07:47
LjLboink: i believe so as well07:48
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WOLF_buenas07:48
LjLboink: which is what iptables-save and iptables-restore seem to help doing, for all that i can see07:48
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WOLF_tengo un problemilla07:48
LjL!es07:48
MaKaTiGuYboink: can i move my other partition to another location?07:48
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.07:48
boinkwhy would you want to do that?07:48
jribubotu: tell craigbass1976 about iptables07:48
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craigbass1976/var/lib is where it seems to be07:49
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clearzenIf you have a server with two ethernet ports which are both receiving connections do you assign each ethernet port it's own ip? And how would you configure this in ubuntu?07:49
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jribcraigbass1976: there's a basic entry in the ubuntu wiki about saving and restoring iptables that might help too07:49
sivikhow do i restart the vsftpd server since i messed with the vsftpd.conf file to allow users, not just anonymous07:49
LjLcraigbass1976: so says the site -- though i have nothing there (but then i don't have any rules set either)07:49
MaKaTiGuYboink: because, i can't access that partition and its in the /tmp directory07:49
holycowhttp://mozy.org/vaio/07:49
ajtraynorjaysus i need the wireless working07:49
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boinkclearzen: System -> Admin -> networking07:49
bayzider!wine07:49
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.07:49
holycowhttp://mozy.org/vaio/07:49
holycowway cool07:49
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clearzen boink: it's a server install I don't have a gui on it07:50
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surekhaHi all, Need help installing postgresql on ubuntu07:50
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clearzenplus I tryed to configure seperate ip addresses and it did not work for me07:50
MaKaTiGuYboink: because, i can't access that partition and its in the /tmp directory07:51
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LjL!firestarter > craigbass197607:51
jrib!info postgresql07:51
ubotupostgresql: object-relational SQL database management system (transitional). In component universe, is optional. Version 7.5.16.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 44 kB07:51
LjLcraigbass1976: don't know if that's of any use, but it's what most people seem to be using to facilitate creating firewall rules afaik07:51
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surekhacan anyone point me to some documentation on installing postgresql on ubuntu07:51
jribsurekha: sudo apt-get install postgresql     after enabling universe07:52
profoX`LjL: why isnt force-conflicts in man dpkg?07:52
surekhajrib: ya I have done that07:52
surekhaI have problems running postgres server07:52
surekhausing postmaster07:52
LjLprofoX`: it is. it's listed under the "--force-things" option... as one of the "things207:53
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jribsurekha: try to be more specific, what problems?  Do you get errors?  Someone may be able to help, but I probably can't since I don't know anything about postgresql07:53
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LjLsurekha: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostgreSQL  and  https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/databases.html  possibly07:53
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surekhathanks LjL!07:54
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gtaquestion: whend itz do to appear the new xubuntu ???07:55
jribubotu: tell gta about schedule07:56
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MaKaTiGuYLjL: can you help me pls07:56
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LjLMaKaTiGuY: can you repeat the problem please?07:57
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LjL!schedule > gta07:57
MaKaTiGuYLjL: can i move my other partition to another location?07:57
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LjLMaKaTiGuY: "to another location"?07:58
MaKaTiGuYLjL: because, i can't access that partition and its in the /tmp directory07:58
LjLMaKaTiGuY: "sudo umount /tmp/whereverthepartitionis", and then mount it somewhere else07:58
LjLMaKaTiGuY: and don't mount things under /tmp. *never*. they get deleted at reboot07:58
MaKaTiGuYumount ~/temp/disk-conf-hda607:59
MaKaTiGuYumount: /home/dude/temp/disk-conf-hda6 is not mounted (according to mtab)07:59
MaKaTiGuY?07:59
LjLMaKaTiGuY: uh... is that ~/temp, or /tmp? they're two quite different things07:59
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MaKaTiGuYtmp07:59
LjLMaKaTiGuY: then why did you write "~/temp/disk-conf-hda6"?  try "sudo umount /tmp/disk-conf-hda6" perhaps08:00
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MaKaTiGuYumount: /home/dude/tmp/disk-conf-hda6: not found08:00
profoX`LjL: when he forces dpkg: dpkg-divert: `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa by xorg-driver-fglrx' clashes with `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa by nvidia-glx'08:00
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LjLMaKaTiGuY: /tmp, "/tmp", it's got a slash -- *not* "tmp"08:01
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profoX`LjL: so it seems like there is a technical reason.. and we _should_ be able to work around it somehow08:01
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profoX`but it's hard because its a symlinked library08:01
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profoX`LjL: i'm going to post a bug about it08:02
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MaKaTiGuYLjL: /tmp right?08:02
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profoX`.so means shared object right?08:03
LjLMaKaTiGuY: yes. please, can you just type what i told you to type?    sudo umount /tmp/disk-conf-hda608:03
LjLprofoX`: yeah. library.08:03
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profoX`LjL: yea i know.. but i figured out myself that so means shared object, so i could be wrong :)08:03
LjLprofoX`: if only one OpenGL library is supposed to be active at any given time, then well, i'm not sure it's an easy fix08:03
profoX`LjL: yep.. i know..08:03
LjLprofoX`: i think i recalls it means that, yeah08:03
profoX`i think programs look for the file in /usr/lib08:04
profoX`..and its linked to either the nvidia so or the fglrx so..08:04
LjLprofoX`: well, you can probably override that for a single problem using shell variables08:04
profoX`and well.. you can't run 2 X servers then..08:04
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LjLprofoX`: LD_LIBRARY_PATH and company08:04
MaKaTiGuYLjL: umount: /tmp/disk-conf-hda6: not found08:04
profoX`LjL: yes that sounds like a solution08:04
profoX`LjL: dont think it can be done in a clean and easy way08:05
LjLMaKaTiGuY: well, then i don't know where that partition is mounted. you need to find out. type "mount" and paste the line that's relevant to that partition08:05
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profoX`LjL: best solution would be if a certain X server would know wether it needs fglrx or nvidia and then changes the export setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH for that session08:05
profoX`LjL: I think..?08:05
MaKaTiGuYLjL: /dev/hda6 on /tmp/disks-conf-hda6 type ntfs (rw)08:05
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LjLprofoX`: only thing i can think of, yeah08:06
physicsnickwhat's up #ubuntu08:06
MaKaTiGuY:) got it08:06
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MaKaTiGuYtnnx08:06
physicsnicksupposing i just rmed a file in a terminal08:06
physicsnickis there a way to undelete it?08:06
LjLMaKaTiGuY: then type   sudo umount /tmp/disks-conf-hda608:06
LjLphysicsnick: not really. you can possibly use the "testdisk" package to try to recover something08:06
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LjLphysicsnick: there are also two other packages, "e2undel" and "recover", but i think those don't work on ext308:07
MaKaTiGuYtnx LjL08:07
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jendaIs there a way to make grep list lines _not_ matching a pattern? Like -L, but not stopping after the first match.08:08
LjLMaKaTiGuY: to remount somewhere else,   sudo mount /dev/hda6 /somewhere/else08:08
LjLjenda: -v08:08
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fmhi08:08
jendaLjL: thx08:08
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geniusvicksI get an error while using xgl! Help08:09
fmhas anyone got the Windows Live Mail advanced interface to work under linux?08:09
LjL!xgl08:09
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems08:09
MaKaTiGuYLjL: ok, tnx08:09
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Mouldygeniusvicks, care to be a little more specific?08:09
geniusvicksgive me the pastebin link08:09
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geniusvicksI'll paste the rrors08:09
LjLMaKaTiGuY: also, make sure you do not have that entry in your "/etc/fstab" file. if you have it, *remove it*, because mounting anything into /tmp is, as i said, dangerous. very.08:09
LjLgeniusvicks: #ubuntu-xgl is the channel for xgl support08:10
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Mouldyfm, yes, it works fine in firefox if you add ?skipbrowsercheck=true to the URL08:10
MaKaTiGuYLjL: ok copy08:10
Mouldygeniusvicks, http://pastebin.ca/08:10
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Mouldygeniusvicks, but as LjL said, the #ubuntu-xgl chan would be better08:10
gileswis there a gui for gconf?08:11
geniusvickstheres no one there08:11
LjLgilesw: yup, gconf-editor08:11
fmMouldy : still basic version... ;(08:11
Mouldygeniusvicks, There is, they're just a bit slow to reply sometime08:11
gileswhrm where abouts is it on the meun system?08:11
fmMouldy : whats the url u enter?08:11
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gileswsorry for being lame..08:11
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LjLgeniusvicks: well, then ask here, but remember xgl is experimental, unsupported, and nobody is surprised that it'll give problems...08:12
Mouldyfm, You need to enable the 'uber' version in the Options. I use "http://by106w.bay106.mail.live.com/mail/mail.aspx?skipbrowsercheck=true" as my URL08:12
LjLgilesw: perhaps it's not even there (i don't really know, i use KDE). just type "gconf-editor" in a terminal though08:12
gileswya i got that working08:12
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gileswtx for your help though08:12
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kakadois there an easy way to install 32 bit mplayer on amd64 with apt-get?08:14
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fmMouldy : I'm sorry I cannot find this option, u mean the edit->preference menu?08:14
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Mouldyfm, 'ang on, brb08:16
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utabhi there08:16
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MaKaTiGuYLjL: im getting error "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "data".08:17
Maykohallo, i need some help on change the kdm theme on comand line, anyone know how?08:17
ifrozenre08:17
MaKaTiGuYLjL: /data is the location08:17
MaKaTiGuYLjL: /data is the new location08:17
utabI am getting some error messages while trying to open a pdf document, actually pdx file is corrupt or not compatible08:17
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Mouldyfm, right, if you load up WLM there should be a link somewhere for "options" in that bit there is another link that says "Choose your mail experience"...that's what I'm on about08:17
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Maykoi'am use the kdm themes  of kde 3.5.408:17
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fmMouldy : Ok thx a lot! I gotta go now, thx!08:18
gileswcan i get osx style widgets?08:18
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gileswi'd like a stock quote thing for my desktop08:18
Mouldygilesw, Try using gdesklets08:18
jhassewhen i start beryl i get: XGL Absent, checking for NVIDIA    Nvidia Present      what does that mean?08:18
pike_Mayko: you might have better lucck joining kubuntu channel /j kubuntu08:18
LjLMaKaTiGuY: you either have to use the root account, or mount it with permissions allowing your user to read it. i have dinner ready, though -- ask about mounting with user permissions, or perhaps read ubotu's !mountwindows factoid, it should tell you what to do08:18
Maykotanks08:18
geniusvicksMouldy: here is the error which I get08:19
MaKaTiGuYk tnx08:19
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cute_bettongyou know i just noticed something really weard with my sound card ubuntu vs windows usage of the sound card.....windows put out true bass through my cheriwn-vega! speakers.....but ubuntu seems to have trouble with tones......is there something im not doing right?08:19
gileswta Mouldy i'll try that08:19
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geniusvicksi915 DRI driver expected DDX version 1-1.5-x but got version 1.4.108:19
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geniusvickslibGC warning: 3D driver returned no fbconfigs08:20
Mouldygeniusvicks, What graphics card do you have?08:20
geniusvickslibGC error: Init Draw failed08:20
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geniusvicksMouldy: no card08:20
geniusvicksMouldy:  onboard08:20
geniusvicksMouldy:  Intel08:20
ajtraynormy ra0 wireless connection is sending loads of packets but is recieving none, why wont it work!08:21
host`which series of chip?08:21
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Mouldygeniusvicks, Ah sorry, I don't know how you get it working with onboard. There's probably some howtos on the forums or something08:21
geniusvicksMouldy: Okay thanks anyway08:21
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th3_d4r3d3vi1hey ive gotta prob08:21
utabhas anyone had problems with acroread and .pdx index files08:21
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host`ajtraynor, are you connected using another device right now?08:22
ajtraynorwhy wont m wireless connection work08:22
th3_d4r3d3vi1im runnin xgl+beryl on an ATI Xpress 200 chipset08:22
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ajtraynorthe signal bar is recieving nothing08:22
ajtraynorbt the connection is activated08:22
host`ajtraynor, how are you connecting right now?08:22
th3_d4r3d3vi1my prob is dat i cant make a screenshot usin printscreen on the "take screenshot" option in accessories or thru gimp......the screenshot comes up garbled08:22
cute_bettongso anyone know why my ubuntu isen't useing my soundblaster live! like windows uses?08:23
clearzenif I plan on using two ethernet cards on one pc at the same time do I assgin them both the same ip address?08:23
cute_bettongthe tones seem off08:23
ajtraynorhost: im not, i did before perfectly but i installed a newer version08:23
th3_d4r3d3vi1but screenshots of windws usin alt+printscreen come out fine08:23
th3_d4r3d3vi1any solution??08:23
ajtraynorand it wont work, moxilla goes to blank page error08:23
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host`ajtraynor, did you 'dhclient ra0'?08:24
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ajtraynori dont know what dhclient is>08:24
lisiI tried to set up a sym link to the FF bookmarks file to share between Ubuntu and XP, but they didn't show up when I opened FF in Ubuntu. so I tried copying the actual file to the Ubuntu partition, still didn't work, so I tried importing the file and then they did show up until i closed down FF and restarted - nothing there08:24
host`ajtraynor, also I know some people get conflicts when other devices are running, some people have to 'ifdown eth0'08:24
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lisiI tried to set up a sym link to the FF bookmarks file to share between Ubuntu and XP, but they didn't show up when I opened FF in Ubuntu.08:24
lisiso I tried copying the actual file to the Ubuntu partition, still didn't work, so I tried importing the file and then they did show up until i closed down FF and restarted - nothing there08:24
ajtraynorso what do i do host?08:25
ajtraynordo you recon08:25
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ajtraynorim new to ubuntu08:25
host`try 'dhclient ra0'08:25
th3_d4r3d3vi1im runnin xgl+beryl on an ATI Xpress 200 chipset.......my prob is dat i cant make a screenshot usin printscreen on the "take screenshot" option in accessories or thru gimp......the screenshot comes up garbled............but screenshots of windws usin alt+printscreen come out fine...any solution??08:25
ajtraynorhow do i try it08:25
host`that will try to dhcp08:25
host`in terminal08:25
host`'sudo dhclient ra0'08:25
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lisiand BTW the bookmarks show up fine in Xp so i know the file is fine08:25
ajtraynorand what will that do?08:25
stjepanwhen I apt-get source something, patch this app, how to make a .deb?08:26
bayziderhey i installed a porgram in wine and it is telling me i need the active x browser object installed how do i do that08:26
host`it should take a min saying something like DHCPREQUEST and DHCPDISCOVER08:26
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bayzider!active x08:26
host`and it should resolve you an IP address08:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about active x - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:26
stojanceWhat is the program, possibly daemon that scans Ips or what is going on with the internet on your computer?08:26
ajtraynorok, i =ll do that now08:26
stojance that is in synaptic08:26
ajtraynorsee ya in 10 mins08:26
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bayzidercan some one help me????08:27
lisiany ideas why I can't even import the bookmarks in Ubuntu? I mean I can, but then they disappear08:27
th3_d4r3d3vi1im runnin xgl+beryl on an ATI Xpress 200 chipset.......my prob is dat i cant make a screenshot usin printscreen on the "take screenshot" option in accessories or thru gimp......the screenshot comes up garbled............but screenshots of windws usin alt+printscreen come out fine...any solution??08:27
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IcemanV9!repeat > th3_d4r3d3vi108:27
bayzider! Active-X08:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Active-X - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:28
bayzider!active x08:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about active x - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:28
th3_d4r3d3vi1im runnin xgl+beryl on an ATI Xpress 200 chipset.......my prob is dat i cant make a screenshot usin printscreen on the "take screenshot" option in accessories or thru gimp......the screenshot comes up garbled............but screenshots of windws usin alt+printscreen come out fine...any solution??08:28
th3_d4r3d3vi1sigh08:28
bayzider! mozila08:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mozila - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:28
AbortDbay rider you trying to get firefox?08:29
lisican anyone help me with my bookmarks problem?08:29
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AbortDexplain what it is and maybe someone can08:29
bayziderabortD: no im trying to get active x08:29
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lisiok, I'08:29
th3_d4r3d3vi1@iceman.....ny solution?08:29
lisiOK, I'll repost08:29
AbortDactive x?08:29
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bayzideryes08:29
lisiI tried to set up a sym link to the FF bookmarks file to share between Ubuntu and XP, but they didn't show up when I opened FF in Ubuntu.08:29
AbortDwhat is active x?08:30
IcemanV9bayzider: in wine, accept the dialog to install active x08:30
lisiso I tried copying the actual file to the Ubuntu partition, still didn't work, so I tried importing the file and then they did show up until i closed down FF and restarted - nothing there08:30
bayzideri did and nothing happened08:30
IcemanV9th3_d4r3d3vi1: no idea on beryl stuff .. sorry08:30
AbortDare they hidden lisi?08:30
th3_d4r3d3vi1:(08:30
bayziderany thing i have to go in a few secondes08:30
IcemanV9bayzider: restart the fx in wine?08:30
stjepancan I make a backup copy of my system and then restore it? I made tar.gz archive of my previous system. Then I formatted partitions. How to restore???08:30
bayziderok i have to go08:30
lisiwhat do you mean hidden? the bookmarks folder is empty08:31
AbortDhm08:31
host`do ls -al08:31
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nahojwich kernel should I use to my Pentium M cpu?08:32
IcemanV9th3_d4r3d3vi1: check out at ubuntuforums - i am sure there are many threads on beryl & xgl stuffs08:32
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phaedrus44ello08:32
IcemanV9nahoj: linux-68608:32
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nahojIcemanV9, not the generic??08:33
nahojIm on edgy08:33
lisihm, I did more bookmarks.html and there is content in the file - why does it not show in the browser?08:33
IcemanV9nahoj: yes. it's the same. i don't know why they named it to generic08:33
host`.wiki the forrest08:33
nahojIcemanV9, ok, thx!!08:34
host`err. wrong channel08:34
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bieb_workHey Seveas08:35
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vortexopticsAnyone know anything about installing ubuntu no a nforce "hardware" RAID(even though it's not true hardware RAID).  Is there anyway to make ubuntu see it as one drive?  My ubuntu install see's it as 4 seperate drives.08:35
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lisianyone got an idea?08:36
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vortexopticsThere isn't a whole lot of information on installing onto a hardware raid.  You'd think more people would want to do it08:36
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IcemanV9!raid > vortexoptics08:36
vortexopticshmm08:36
vortexopticsclever08:37
jakeI have a NTFS partition I would like to shrink by about 10 Gigs so I can fit Ubuntu on the drive - Is it possible to do that in the setup?08:37
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Seveashey bieb_work08:37
scribbles_when I use wget I get Error parsing proxy URL http://:8080/: Invalid host name.08:37
scribbles_, is there a setting thats causing it to use a proxy?08:37
pike_jake: yes but i would backup any important stuff first08:37
jakepike_: So, how unsafe is it?08:38
esjjake: I've used PartitionMagic to do that08:38
host`it's about 99.9999% safe08:38
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esjit's been pretty reliable.  I think I screwed it up once08:38
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pike_jake: ive used commercial products like partition magic but never gparted so im not sure08:38
phaedrus44ello...when i do   lspci -v  i read that i have a broadcom wireless device in my laptop 4311 I believe.   But when i go to hp website to get the driver for ndiswrapper the site reports it is an intel driver....i tried to use it with ndiswrapper but no dice.....what should i do?08:38
esjbut once was enough to go ouch08:38
TheGateKeeperjake: I would be tempted to backup then use gparted livecd08:38
host`I use partition magic myself, It's my prefered method08:38
jakeI have partitionmagic installed but it doesn't work very well - when i do the changes and reboot for them to take effect i just come back into windows and all partitions are like they were before08:38
cherubieljake: get the gparted live cd08:38
IcemanV9jake: desktop CD can do it when you install; however backup your important data 1st - i have done it a few times, no problem (for me, at least)08:39
cherubieljake: its non destrucive and works like a charm08:39
Otacon22fuck that fucking rule.. for the first time that i use an away message for mistake you kik me? fuck08:39
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IcemanV9!language > Otacon2208:39
stjepanI apt-get sourced sources of gtk2.10... I want to patch it08:39
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stjepanwhat directory? where's the source?08:39
cherubielscribbles_: unset HTTP_PROXY08:40
IcemanV9too late :)08:40
cherubielscribbles_: run that first and then run the wget08:40
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esj anyone know where I can find the data store behind the network settings applet?08:40
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scribblesexcellent, thank you Cherubiel08:40
esjIt thinks that I have a et08:40
esjeth208:40
stephanswhat is teh best space to talk about ubuntu-server?08:41
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Seveas#ubuntu-server or here08:41
jakeAny idea what might be wrong? I've googled for it but haven't found anything so far... =/08:41
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vipernicushaving problems with latest edgy beta08:41
vipernicusX doesn't start08:41
jribvipernicus: #ubuntu+108:41
TheGateKeeperjake for what?08:41
segfault_vipernicus, ask in #ubuntu+108:41
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jakeFor partitionmagic, look a few lines up. =)08:42
avagantWhy are people even using the edgy beta if it isn't fully finished yet?08:42
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tarzeauavagant: impatient maybe/08:42
avagantI don't understand the reasoning.08:42
esjJake: you mean the problem with it appears to make changes but on reboot it hasn't?08:42
IcemanV9avagant: beta = test it out :)08:42
tarzeauavagant: boredom?08:42
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jakeesj: exactly08:42
avagantbeta=lots of problems?08:42
tarzeauavagant: oviously what they have isn't good enough08:42
esjIsn't there a commit option at the end of the process?08:42
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ajtraynorHOST08:42
tarzeauavagant: not necessarily08:42
TheGateKeeperjake: here you go: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php08:43
tarzeauavagant: i've seen fantastic beta products, and horrible final products08:43
badkittyAnyone know how to get wireless drivers working with the native linux drivers???08:43
jakeesj: Yes, and it asks me to reboot to make the changes, but nothing happens when i reboot08:43
avaganttarzeau: I've read people say they've had nothing but problems.08:43
fdsdhey guys, how do I turn off kernel messages in the console? for example I have a firewire harddrive when I plug it in and I am on the console it spits all this dmesg info on the screen.. how do I disable that?08:43
tarzeauavagant: using ubuntu?08:43
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avaganttarzeau: Edgy ubuntu yah.08:43
esjVery weird.08:43
host`ajtraynor,?08:43
avaganttarzeau: I've got dapper and fight enough with that, I don't need something else to make it worse. :)08:43
badkittylol08:44
tarzeauavagant: i don't know. i just have a local friend that is having problems with the stable releases, yet keeps using it08:44
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tarzeauavagant: i'm happy with debian sid (since 7 years now)08:44
esjIt's been a while since I have used it.  Is this a multistage process where you boot the same CD a couple times or is it a let it run, pop out the CD before reboot kind of deal08:44
fdsdanyone know?08:44
avaganttarzeau: I want something that has a little more sound stability.08:44
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esjbut as other folks have pointed out, the live CD with gparted may be your best bet08:44
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tarzeauavagant: linux alsa with 2.6?08:44
tarzeauavagant: what's the problem? it's fine stable for me08:45
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esjthe gatekeeper has given you a URL which is what I would go with right now08:45
avaganttarzeau: This time it's working fine, but I don't know if maybe I'm just lucky so far.08:45
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badkittyyah is someoine having a hard drive problem?08:45
avaganttarzeau: I can't play more than one sound at once, well for some reason this reinstall I can.08:45
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jakeesj: The thing is I really don't want to waste a CD if I don't have to... I only have two or so left :p08:45
avaganttarzeau: But I've fought with this for just about forever.08:45
esjare they really that precious?08:45
amukanukls08:45
cherubiel!esd08:45
ubotuesd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead08:45
badkittylol08:46
fdsdanyone know?08:46
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jakeesj: Well, I want to get linux installed and running today... :P08:46
badkittyAnyone know how to get the native linux wireless drivers working for a wireless lan card?08:46
esjOr am I just being an idiot American who can purchase CDs on every street corner with a bag of crack for free08:46
fdsdhey guys, how do I turn off kernel messages in the console? for example I have a firewire harddrive when I plug it in and I am on the console it spits all this dmesg info on the screen.. how do I disable that?08:46
beko_hi there, anybody can help with UMTS mobil08:46
beko_?08:46
avagantI don't know what version of alsa I have, or if it comes with dmix or dsnoop and i don't want to mess with anything to screw it up again.08:46
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IcemanV9fdsd: switch to alt+f2 .. you won't see any dmesg message08:47
avagantI did that .asoundrc thing and tried using aplay and esd and it gave me nothing but error messages so i'm not going to mess with it.08:47
fdsdIcemanV9, cant08:47
esjJake: my suggestion, being not very bright, would be to burn the CD, start the conversion, and then run out to the all night market and get a five pack.  It'll be expensive but you can do it tonight.08:47
jakeesj: Nope, I'm Swedish and they are cheaper then candy... However, the stores are closed now and I don't want to wait until tomorrow :P08:47
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IcemanV9fdsd: ?? cannot? why?08:48
esjThree of my four grandparents were Swedish so no wonder I recognize your stubborn streak.  :-)08:48
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fdsdIcemanV9, my script starts in tty108:48
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avagantI guess I should just bare the burden of one sound object at a time for now.08:48
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esjit's been long enough since I last used PartitionMagic that I really can't remember all of its strange corners08:49
avagantComing from a Windows machine with no sound at all (wrong drivers perhaps?) I guess I should feel lucky.08:49
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IcemanV9fdsd: ah. dunno if you can turn it off .. i couldn't figure it out myself as well. so i just simply switch over to tty2 and it works.08:49
jakeesj: Hahaha :P Well, I just going to burn it anyway - I probably have like 20 or so CDs somewhere in my closet anyway :p08:49
esjI can't shake the feeling that somehow you are getting into a test mode and it's only simulating the copy08:49
sivaI need help on Unichrome drivers.  can I contact any one in personal chat..08:49
jakeThank you by the way =)08:49
xulundhi.. how do i remove xfce  window manager? i want to run server only on 1 machine..08:50
esjwell then, get to it08:50
darrendhi guys.  Is there a way to do a net install of ubuntu (server edition if that makes any difference)?  The machine I want to install on has a broken CD drive and it's very awkward to reach (so I'd prefer not to have to in order to put a new one in!)08:50
fdsdIcemanV9, I wasnt aware that tty2 didnt do that, thanks for the info, but I still need to disable it off tty108:50
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sivaI need help on Unichrome drivers.08:50
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abhinaythe kernel 2.6.18 version compatable with the ubuntu dapper ? can i run on it ?08:51
ajtraynorHOST08:51
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ajtraynorUBUntu wireless connection wont work? anyone got any ideas08:52
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ajtraynori set it up DHCP, ASCII WPA, ssid NETGEAR08:52
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host`ajtraynor, what type of adapter do you have?08:53
sivaOpenChrome web is not functioning for ubuntu binaries..08:53
jbinderhi08:53
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jakeQuick question about GParted - Does it support NTFS? I don't see anything about it on the site...08:53
jbinderjake: it does08:53
cherubieljake: it does!08:53
jakeGreat, thanks =)08:53
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jbindercherubiel: are you a noob like the rest of the people in here, or do you have a brain?08:54
ajtraynorhost, i have a RALINK RT2500 wireless card08:54
jbinderlike me08:54
cherubieljbinder: think what you want.08:54
host`ajtraynor, is it usb?08:54
jbindermeh08:54
ajtraynorand it worked before on a different version of ubuntu08:54
ajtraynorbrezzy badger08:54
jbindersome people ask idiotic questions in here08:54
erUSUL!edgy08:54
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule08:55
ajtraynorno, its built in08:55
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cherubielits not reality thats importnt, but how you percieve things ;)08:55
ajtraynorthe router is ethernet08:55
jbinder!schedule08:55
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule08:55
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buzzyplease suggest me a download accelerator..08:55
host`try using ndiswrapper if you can't get a dhclient resolve08:55
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cherubielajtraynor: run iwconfig08:55
buzzy!download accelerator08:55
ajtraynorwhats a ndiswrapper08:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about download accelerator - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:55
segfault_ajtraynor, i dont have one, but did an install for someone with one and it worked fine08:55
host`ajtraynor, do this first08:55
fdsdhey guys, I am customizing the ubuntu livecd for my school, we are going to use it for data recovery, I have a shell script that starts on tty1, but its really annoying because dmesg messages keep interupting the script, how do I turn that off?08:55
ajtraynorok08:55
cherubielajtraynor: that shows if you've got the drivers instlled08:55
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siva?? Via S3G Unichrome Pro IGP Drivers ??08:56
ajtraynorah right08:56
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ajtraynorhow do i do this08:56
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cherubielajtraynor:open up a terminal and issue iwconfig08:56
host`'sudo iwlist ra0 scan' you should see possible netowrks you can connect to08:56
cherubielonce you have the drivers installed, do what host` says :)08:56
host`then 'sudo iwconfig ra0 essid (essid)08:57
jbinderis this card pcmcia or pci08:57
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host`then if you have a WEP encryption you'll have to type 'sudo iwconfig key (code)08:57
host`er.. 'sudo iwconfig ra0 key (code)' one of those08:58
ajtraynori hope this works08:58
host`then08:58
m0biu5anyone here have any luck with xinerama?08:58
host`dhclient ra008:58
ajtraynorits fairly irritating that i cant get it working08:58
MikeyMikeA small plane has crashed into a building in New York City. No further details immediately available.08:58
MikeyMikewoops08:58
cherubielwhoa!08:58
host`it's a pain in the neck, if that doesn't work there are still more options08:58
MikeyMikeyeah08:58
MikeyMiketurn on CNN08:58
MikeyMikewww.cnn.com08:59
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cherubiel!wireless > ajtraynor08:59
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host`ajtraynor, hold on a sec befor eyou go08:59
ajtraynorok08:59
lisiok, i guess if no one can help - I'll go back to Googling - not sure what else to look up though :(08:59
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jbinderoctober 26th08:59
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jbinderhi09:01
host`ajtraynor, go here, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926&highlight=howto+ndiswrapper09:01
ajtraynorhost when i did the dhclient it somethign about SLEEPING09:01
matidDoes anyone know why Firefox renders fonts differently? They're inconsistant with the rest of the desktop... Edgy here09:01
host`ajtraynor, do everything from step 7 down first, then if it doesn't work, try doing all of it09:01
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host`ajtraynor, that means it didn't detect the netowork you were trying to connect to, it's possible that just setting the essid that it talks about in step 7 of that will fix that09:02
host`ajtraynor, if you don't know the essid, then you can do the 'iwlist ra0 scan'09:02
m0biu5does anyone know how i can set the function keys on my laptop09:02
jbinderyeah09:02
jbinderoh09:03
jbinderyeah09:03
jbinderm0biu5: xbindkeys09:03
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jbinderm0biu5: sudo apt-get install xbindkeys09:03
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m0biu5jbinder, yeah, on my way..09:03
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jbinderk09:04
jakeHow much space is needed for Ubuntu? Will 5000MiB be enough?09:04
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bbraziljake: yes09:04
jbinderjake: yes09:04
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jakeThanks09:04
ajtraynorthanks host09:04
ajtraynorill do that now09:04
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jbinderm0biu5: once that's done, do xbindkeys -k09:05
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m0biu5jbinder, i downloaded i810switch to enable vga out on my laptop.. all my other function keys work fine.. ijust need to run i810rotate when i hit fn+f8...09:05
SilentDissonancea bit of an odd question... is it possible to create a 'custom' Synaptic repository from the packages i've already downloaded?  I wish to do a reinstall of ubuntu so I can set it up with a more logical partition setup :P09:06
ricanelitedoes anyone know this error message and what can I do to fix it? Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError : main/jnlp09:06
jbinderm0biu5: easy09:06
m0biu5jbinder: i just don't want it to end up overwriting the working keys...09:06
jbinderyea09:07
directhexsomething's broken my laptop edgy install - the permissions on /dev/null are screwy (only root can read/write to it, which breaks many things)09:07
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jbinderdirecthex: sudo chmod 777 /dev/null -r09:07
ricanelitecan someone help me please?09:08
directhexjbinder, great. and on the next reboot, given /dev/null is created by udev?09:08
jbindershould be09:08
jbinderricanelite: whats the problem09:08
cherubielricanelite: ##ava09:08
cherubielricanelite: ##java09:08
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ricanelitewhen I try to open up a Application I use for work which is a .jnlp file it starts to open up and then it closes up in aother words does not do nothing so i went to terminal and type in java "filename" and i got this error message09:09
ricaneliteException in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError : main/jnlp09:09
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esjweird problem with networking. eth0 and 1 are seen at boot time but the control panel sees only eth1 and 2.09:09
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directhexricanelite, using which java?09:09
ricaneliteas in version? java 1.509:10
esjI can't find out where ETH 2 is referenced by the control panel09:10
jbinderesj: hmm09:10
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jbinderdapper?09:10
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ricanelitei think 609:10
jbinderesj: dapper?09:10
esjyes.  It's in dapper09:10
jbinderk09:10
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jbinderhmm09:10
jbinderesj: why does it matter, what are you trying to do?09:10
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esjhold on bt head set problems09:11
jbinderk09:11
th3_d4r3d3vi1hey.im running xgl/beryl on an ATI Xpress 200 based pc with ATI drivers. My prob is da screenshot taken usin the "take screenshot" option in accessories or by pressin printscreen or thru acquire in GIMP appears garbled..screenshots of a single open window taken using alt+print screen appear fine.........im VERY new to ubuntu...any solution to this?09:11
th3_d4r3d3vi1??09:12
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ricanelitehow do i login into the IRC chat?09:13
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jbinderricanelite: what chat09:13
ricanelitethis one09:13
jbinderyou mean identify?09:13
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ricaneliteyeah09:13
bieb_workHey Seveas, sorry about that.. got pulled away09:14
ricanelitesorry09:14
esjohh, bt is wigged out again and noe I need to reboot.  bbs09:14
meatfacehowdy all09:14
jbinder /msg nickserv identify <passwd>09:14
pike_ricanelite: /msg nickserv help    also09:14
ricaneliteokay thank you09:14
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th3_d4r3d3vi1nybody got a solution to my prob??09:14
jbinderth3_d4r3d3vi1: no... go to #ati?09:15
th3_d4r3d3vi1okie09:15
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SeanTatermeatface: hello09:15
bonhow do i search file names using grep09:16
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meatfaceSeanTater: what's shakin?09:16
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KenSentMebon: ls /dir | grep word09:16
boncool thanks09:16
SeanTatermeatface: I just realized that kde 3.5.5 was releases a few hours ago09:16
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meatfaceI guess that's ok if you are into kde09:17
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meatfaceI always used kde when I was running Mandrake, but then along came ubuntu09:18
meatfaceSeanTater: Is there anything new and exciting in this release?09:18
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unimatrix9kubuntu!09:19
meatfaceSeanTater: Does that mean that you are running Kubuntu? And is so, what do you find better about Kubuntu than a standard ubuntu release?09:19
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es1sorry about that09:20
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es1every so often Windows Bluetooth loses its bloody mind, crams a bunch of noise down the audio channel and speech recognition turns its toast to the sky and fails09:21
m0biu5jbinder, i am not having any luck capturing fn keystrokes09:21
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jbinderm0biu5: whats happening09:22
m0biu5jbinder, if i run just -k to capture any key.. pressing Fn doesn't yeild anything09:22
es1let's see, where was I.  Yes, someone had asked me why I cared about my network interfaces be ETH one and ETH two09:22
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jbinderm0biu5: you pushed f8?09:22
m0biu5jbinder, if i press f8 by itself, that works..09:23
es1the reason is, ETH two was failing to acquire all the information from DHCP properly.  For example, I did not have a DNS entry09:23
m0biu5jbinder, but using fn+f8 doesn't work..09:23
jbinderoh09:23
jbinderm0biu5: xbindkeys -mk09:23
jbindertry that09:23
es1I think it's also a problem because the kernel sees ETH 0 and not ETH 209:23
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m0biu5jbinder, did that09:23
m0biu5jbinder, i can09:23
meatface09:23
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es1so I'm trying to figure out why the disconnect09:23
m0biu5't capture fn by itself09:23
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BiSk-8hello, i need a program to extract a dvd into video files onto my pc, any ideas?09:24
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GoomieIs there a location that has SCSI/RAID drivers for ubuntu?09:24
ajtraynorHOST, that didnt do anythign09:24
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bonKenSentMe, i need to search all files on my computer not just the current direcotory09:24
LuisMendeswill the final version of 6.10 include linux kernel 2.18?09:24
es1doesn't the divix project to something like that?  Or is it just compression codecs09:24
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LuisMendes2.6.18***09:24
ajtraynorit justgave details of the connection , such as frequecy, noise, DB09:24
hoelkany automatic way to remove duplicate repositories from sources.lst?09:24
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nickspoonbon: find09:24
pike_BiSk-8: cat ? :)09:25
stizi cannot seem to unshare folders in 6.1009:25
host`what?09:25
Goomiebon: or you can use locate09:25
host`iwconfig did?09:25
BiSk-8pike_ i'll try thx09:25
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m0biu5jbinder, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=471983&postcount=409:25
ajtraynoriwconfig just gave out details of ra0 connection09:25
host`just iwconfig alone will09:25
bonnickspoon, ha ok09:25
pike_BiSk-8: they will be pretty big you might try dvdbackup or dvdrip09:25
IcemanV9LuisMendes: i don't think so. -17 would be the default, i believe09:25
pike_instead09:25
salkotI'm trying to install a D-Link 2330 on an old Toshiba laptop, and the card is the supposedly supported Atheros 5212 chipset. The operating system seems to detect it ok, but whenever I go to "Properties" for ath0 in the network-admin, the system TOTALLY FREEZES. What can I try??09:26
LuisMendesIcemanV9, thanks09:26
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ajtraynorhost i think ill give up for the moment09:26
pike_BiSk-8: cat would just be to make an iso like cat /dev/dvd > /home/username/file.iso09:26
ajtraynorits awful annoying09:26
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BiSk-8ah pike_ no thx then09:26
stizeverytime i go 2 shared folders and remove folders, close it, open it back up.... there still shared, cannot remove shared folders, any suggestions?09:27
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IcemanV9salkot: try to do it in the terminal instead of using GUI since it'll freezes the system09:27
meatfaceBiSk-8 try acid rip or thoggen09:27
Goomiestiz: a samba share?09:27
stizsome samba some unix09:28
BiSk-8im downloading dvdrip pike, meatface.. is that ok?09:28
salkotIcemanV9, I have tried that too -- even just running dhclient freezes the system!09:28
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salkotI can't ctrl-c or move the mouse.09:28
jbinderwtf09:29
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pike_BiSk-8: youll want to try a few id download the ones meatface recommended as well09:29
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stizGoomie: samba and nfs, both wont remove, is there a config file i can edit 4 this?09:29
Goomiestiz: well for those samba shares you can go into /etc/samba/smb.conf and remove the entrys09:29
stizthanx09:30
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BiSk-8pike_ what i want is just a few video files... is that possibile?09:30
es1jbinder: that freezing phenomenon happens whenever ubuntu is waiting for certain types of network traffic09:30
sIDR_Hey, does anyone know how to get Flash to play in sync in Epiphany? I'm on Edgy.09:30
Goomiestiz: as for the nfs i believe those are in the /etc/exports09:30
stizthank you Goomie09:30
salkotes1, are you talking to me?09:30
es1I've been puzzled by that before but if I wait something like 30 to 60 seconds, the system usually comes back09:30
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es1sorry, yes.  I typed the wrong name09:30
m0biu5jbinder, not getting anywhere, any thoughts?09:30
IcemanV9salkot: it happened to me before with ath0 (d-link dwl-g650) .. did you boot your box with the card installed? if so, try to boot it without first, then insert the card09:30
trex37where should I go for networking help?09:30
salkotok09:30
jbinderm0biu5: meh... i dont know09:30
jbinderodd09:30
Goomiestiz: there might even be fstab entrys too, not sure how u have them set up09:31
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SubhumansIDR_, its to do with the newest flash player, you jus going to have t owait till flash 909:31
es1if I've been following, you're trying to deal with wireless networking issues?09:31
m0biu5jbinder, thanks for your help anyways.. you wouldn't be familiar with xinerama would you? =)09:31
es1Or have I gotten confused again09:31
salkotes1, that's right09:31
pike_BiSk-8: you can do alot of stuff its just that some of the tools are complicated.  some are just frontends and pretty easy i havent fooled with it much under linux09:31
Goomiestiz: is the samba and nfs shares on your machine?09:31
jbindernope09:31
es1so you lock up every time the system tries to do a DHCP request or anything on the network09:31
stizGoomie: yes my machine, not from other machines09:31
salkotIcemanV9, es1: I'll try giving it another minute to unfreeze, then restart09:31
salkotes1, not exactly -- it can do eth0 just fine, it's just this wireless card09:31
es1sorry, I was assuming only one network interface.09:32
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BiSk-8pike_ ok ty, if i need help i know who to ask09:32
salkotwould it be a problem if eth0 was up and I tried to bring ath0 up?09:32
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es1I have had problems with both ethernet and wireless active at the same time09:32
Goomiestiz: the samba entrys should be towards the end of the file09:32
nicodarioushey all, anyone know if there's some kind of CSS decoder for Ubuntu so i can play my CSS encoded DVDs?09:32
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es1there is a fight over who gets to be the default route especially if both are DHCP09:32
Goomiestiz: and ive worked very little with nfs but i know they use the exports file09:32
es1try disabling ETH zero09:32
sidny4!dvd09:33
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages09:33
IcemanV9it should not, but in case, disable one of those like es1 said09:33
salkotOk09:33
salkotIcemanV9, after that I09:33
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salkoter..I'll try sticking it in after boot09:33
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nicodariousubotu: thanks  i'll check them out.  (don't know why i couldn't find those on goodle/linux though, but oh well.)09:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thanks  i'll check them out.  (don't know why i couldn't find those on goodle/linux though, but oh well.) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:34
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unimatrix9hi there, if ubuntu freezes, and hard reboot the system, should it not check the file system at boot?09:34
sIDR_So there's no way of getting Flash to play properly until Flash 9? I remember I had it working reasonably well a month or two ago...09:34
tuxtuxciao a tutti09:34
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es1unimatrix9: sometimes but not always necessary if you use a journaling filesystem09:35
compilerwriterHello all I am a newbie that needs someone to take pity on me and help me mount a floppy drive.  I keep screwing something up.09:35
es1you should be given an option to do a filesystem check if you are really fast on the keyboard.  I think the timeout is five seconds give or take09:35
unimatrix9i think it default installs ext2?09:35
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sidny4ext3 isn't it?09:35
es1EXT309:35
Justy-hello09:35
es1so you should be all set09:35
kmaynardgaaaah...finding an ldap manager sucks09:35
salkotNope -- disabling eth0 first didn't help -- it's frozen again09:35
Goomiecompilerwriter: i think it auto mounts it in /media/floppy09:35
unimatrix9okay how can icheck that?09:35
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kmaynardand i refuse to navigate it by hand *cringe*09:36
es1salkot: don't despair.  It may still be misconfigured09:36
anon32aside from ext3, could someone recommend a filesystem for a 65GB partition with somewhat important data on it?09:36
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es1anon32: multiple partitions, raid array09:36
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unimatrix9on the shell how to get info on file system...free?09:36
meatfaceBisK-8 the programs I mentioned you can find in the package manager if you check off unsupported and commercial applications09:36
cherubielunimatrix9: df -h09:36
Justy-Hello I was following those steps: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560 . And at first step i did this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26350/ and I got that error on pastebin. Can anyone help me solving that problem?09:36
anon32esl, yes... and a file system is not either of those09:36
sidny4anybody know what exactly LVM is?09:37
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KenSentMe!lvm09:37
fdovinglvm > sidny409:37
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO09:37
es1anon32: yes you are right that they are not a filesystem but if they are there, under your filesystem, you can sleep at night09:37
compilerwritergoomie If it automounted then I should be able to just put a blasted floppy in the drive should I not?09:37
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unimatrix9df -h does not show filesystem type09:37
anon32esl, yes... but that doesn't answer my question09:37
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salkotIcemanV9, I'm going to try your suggestion of putting it in after boot. What should I check before and after I stick it in?09:37
anon32I still want a recommendation for a FS tupe09:37
anon32type*09:38
compilerwriterI have read somewhere that there must be a mount point, but am unsure how to check if that is present.09:38
pike_anon32: for?09:38
sleepsterFor some reason, I am using a USB mouse and the mouse keeps freezing09:38
es1true: I think probably I would look at something like XFS which has a reputation for being good with large volumes of large files09:38
pike_compilerwriter: any directory can be mounted to09:38
anon32pike_, a generic 65GB partition that's getting more and more full by the second09:38
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IcemanV9salkot: after insert the card, sudo dhclient ath009:38
compilerwriterSomeone pointed me to an fstab hack that would allow anyone to mount and unmount a floppy so that if I put in the disk my wife could take it out.09:38
sykes^!nvidia09:38
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:38
anon32es1, how's the XFS support in Ubuntu, compared with performance?09:38
Goomiecompilerwriter: sudo mount /dev/fd /mnt/floppy , assuming its on that09:39
IcemanV9salkot: it should work without a problem (it did in my case)09:39
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es1to be honest, I've never used it.  And the last time I saw performance comparisons, it was pretty good09:39
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es1somebody did a performance comparison within the past six months but unfortunately, I don't have that data at hand09:39
anon32ok... anyone in here have any reasons why I shouldn't use XFS and Ubuntu together?09:39
salkotIcemanV9, "No such device"09:39
cherubielcompilerwriter: check out mdir, mcopy09:39
grogoreois there any way to open new Adobe Illustrator files in Inkscape?09:40
CromagDKquick question how long does it take to fsck a device or does that depend on the size ?09:40
Subhumangrogoreo, there are converters on the net.09:40
IcemanV9salkot: sudo ifconfig ath0 up; sudo dhclient ath009:40
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Goomiecompilewriter: did you just install ubuntu dapper?09:40
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salkotifconfig sez: "ath0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device"09:40
compilerwriterGoomie I just installed 6.01 a few weeks ago.09:40
Justy-Hello again, I was following those steps: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560 . And at first step i did this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26350/ and I got that error on pastebin. Can anyone help me solving that problem?09:40
compilerwriterI have never needed to use a floppy until today.09:41
grogoreoSubhuman: do you know of any yourself?09:41
sleepsterAnyone know of this problem?  I hooked up my USB mouse, and it freezes every 20 or so seconds.. and then it works fine09:41
salkotIcemanV9, it didn't autodetect for some reason09:41
IcemanV9salkot: ?? interesting.09:41
w30compilerwriter, man fstab check out the user option09:41
IcemanV9salkot: take it out and reinsert it again09:41
compilerwriter# /etc/fstab: static file system information.09:42
compilerwriter#09:42
compilerwriter# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>09:42
compilerwriterproc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       009:42
compilerwriter/dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       109:42
compilerwriter/dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       009:42
compilerwriter/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       009:42
compilerwriter/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto rw,users,noauto,fmask=111,dmask=000  0   009:42
cherubiel!paste09:42
sidny4compilerwriter, 6.06 is the latest stable release, you might want to try using that and see the problem has been fixed09:42
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:42
anon32kickban09:42
Goomiecompilewriter: if you want to make it so anyone can mount and umount floppy add this line to fstab, /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto user,defaults,noauto 0 009:42
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sleepsterAnyone know of this problem?  I hooked up my USB mouse, and it freezes every 20 or so seconds.. and then it works fine09:42
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compilerwriterThat is my /etc/fstab .09:42
salkotIcemanV9, same problem09:42
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IcemanV9salkot: dmesg |grep ath009:42
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kosnicki need an application that messures the download rate . Any help?09:43
black_13is there a guide to building the kernel for ubuntu?09:43
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anon32kosnick, run network-admin09:43
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IcemanV9salkot: ifconfig .. what does it said? eth0? eth1? ath0? (don't paste it here :)09:43
anon32it'll tell you your data transfer rate overall09:43
pecisksleepster: it happens, seems like USB controller is not supported correctly09:43
salkotOk, I get two messages at the end that say "ath_attach: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware didn't respond as expected' (HAL status 3)"09:43
kosnickanon32 : thx09:43
compilerwriterI did a major update after I intstalled.  I may be running 6.06, but I am not sure.09:43
pike_!kernel > black_1309:44
sleepsterpeciks so is there a way to fix it?09:44
black_13!kernel09:44
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild09:44
salkotIcemanV9, should I paste all the results?09:44
IcemanV9salkot: okay. that helps a lot. hold on.09:44
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compilerwriterIt appears that I am running 6.06 LTS these days.09:44
pecisksleepster: I fixed it by using PS/2 mouse09:44
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kosnickanon32 : i meant the rate while downloading (realtime). i can't find something like it in the network-admin09:45
pecisksleepster: after half a year and several major kernel upgrades, USB worked without gliches09:45
sleepsterthanks pecisk, but unfortunately I only have a usb controller09:45
pecisksleepster: damn, that's not good09:45
anon32kosnick, there's no way to have a "real-time" download rate09:45
Razor-does anyone know how to change the sounds on gaim09:45
Goomiecompilerwriter: when you try and mount the floppy do u get an erro?09:45
pecisksleepster: you should get dmesg09:45
anon32quick science lecture - speed = distance/time09:45
salkotes1, do you have any more ideas by the way?09:45
compilerwriterI have looked at the /media directory and has cdrom and cdrom0 entrys.09:46
Goomiecomilerwriter: error*09:46
peciskand check out what is happening there09:46
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anon32all speeds have to be calculated with reference to time09:46
compilerwriterI am unsure quite the syntax to use.09:46
es1unfortunately I don't.09:46
Goomiecompilerwriter: mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy09:46
kosnickanon32 : maybe i didn't say it right, well i want to know what is the speed of downloading when i download sth.09:47
es1The only thing I can think of is maybe using ndiswrapper as an interim solution09:47
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compilerwriterI know this should be really simple stuff, but I am having an idiot day and really need to use the damned floppy drive.09:47
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Goomiecompilerwriter: /media/floppy, if that directory doesnt exist you will have to make it09:47
es1I must admit I am a little preoccupied with my own networking problems09:47
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anon32kosnick, you need to check with whatever program you're using to download...09:47
es1I'm building a pastebin record of what I'm seeing09:47
Paddy_EIREI just disabled my floppy...really cant find any use for it any more09:47
compilerwriter should I make /media/floppy0 or just /media/floppy?09:48
Paddy_EIREcompilerwriter: how many floppy drives you got09:48
salkotes1, ok09:48
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anon32um... can I convert my ReiserFS drive to XFS? or do I need to format?09:48
compilerwriterI have one floppy drive.09:48
Goomiecompilerwriter: you can name it whatever you want thats just the mount directory the /dev/fd0 depends on how many like paddy asked09:48
Paddy_EIREcompilerwriter: then just use floppy09:48
sleepsterthanks pecisk09:49
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compilerwriterI now have a floppy0 since it is referenced that way in the /etc/fstab.  That seemed the most sensible way to go.  Should I make it simply floppy?09:49
IcemanV9salkot: the current version doesn't work; need the latest version to make it work - here's info that you may want to try .. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22533009:49
anon32is there a way to convert a Reiser partition to XFS?09:49
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salkotIcemanV9, great, thank you! I'll check that out09:50
IcemanV9salkot: "hal status 3" is the key09:50
pike_anon32: like formatting with mkfs ?09:50
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Goomiecompilerwriter: if floppy0 is already present in /media then go ahead and run mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy009:50
anon32NO! converting without data loss09:50
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th3_d4r3d3vi1hey.im running xgl/beryl on an ATI Xpress 200 based pc with ATI drivers. My prob is da screenshot taken usin the "take screenshot" option in accessories or by pressin printscreen or thru acquire in GIMP appears garbled..screenshots of a single open window taken using alt+print screen appear fine.........im VERY new to ubuntu...any solution to this?09:51
sasallihi to all! when i try to install xserver-xgl, i'm getting this error http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3849/screenshotqh3.png09:51
SeanTateranon32: tar.gz the whole thing, copy it elsewhere, them mkfs09:51
anon32SeanTater, that's an absurd inconvenience09:51
SeanTateranon32: then unpack it back into the new fs09:51
compilerwriterI says I must specify the file system type.09:51
anon32I want to know if there's an answer to my question before I spend hours transferring data09:51
es1http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26354/  is some of the data collected from my networking headache.  As you can see at the bottom, the system knows about eth0 and 1, but ifconfig knows about ETH one and ETH 2.  Help?09:51
SeanTateranon32: tar without gz is faster09:51
anon32It's still an absurd inconvenience09:52
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anon32if there's a way to convert, I see no reason to waste hours of my time backing up and copying09:52
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Justy-Hello again, I was following those steps: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560 . And at first step i did this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26350/ and I got that error on pastebin. Can anyone help me solving that problem?09:52
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es1anon32: gparted may be able to help09:52
compilerwritersudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 -t dos?09:53
pike_anon32: convertfs maybe but id be too afraid id end up tar.gz ing anyway09:53
anon32es1: can gparted convert partitions? I thought it just edited the partition table09:53
Goomiecompilerwriter: mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 if that dont work try msdos09:53
salkotIcemanV9, it froze when I tried to `modprobe ath_pci`, but that was when I had stuck the card in after boot...trying again now with the card in at boot :/09:53
es1if you have consumed less than 50% of your disk, you might be able to create a new partition and then copy over09:53
mjrAFAIK there is no way to convert (well, aside from coding the conversion), so it's not a waste of time if you want to do it anyway09:53
th3_d4r3d3vi1nybody got a sol to my prob??:(09:53
es1you can then also do a resize if need be09:53
anon32es1, nope, 65% used09:53
compilerwriterShould the floppy be in the drive when I do that?09:53
es1still not helpless09:53
sasalli2.try) when i try to install xserver-xgl, i'm getting this error http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3849/screenshotqh3.png09:53
es1hopeless09:53
Goomiecompilerwriter: that would be a good idea09:53
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sasallihow can i solve ?09:54
es1you should be able to then copy in thirds09:54
anon32and no... copy - resize - delete - resize - copy does not sound like a good idea09:54
Justy-sasalli, alt+printscreen09:54
mjrpike_, hmh, didn't know about that, but yeah, I wouldn't use it on any fs that had important data :] 09:54
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gansinhoI have a usb bluetooth dongle which is not supported, is there anything that I can do?09:54
th3_d4r3d3vi1hey.im running xgl/beryl on an ATI Xpress 200 based pc with ATI drivers. My prob is da screenshot taken usin the "take screenshot" option in accessories or by pressin printscreen or thru acquire in GIMP appears garbled..screenshots of a single open window taken using alt+print screen appear fine.........im VERY new to ubuntu...any solution to this?09:54
Justy-sasalli, oyle yaparsan daha iyi olur09:54
es1it's that or copy to a new disk09:54
compilerwriterSo far I have no new  is good news.09:54
sasallivay09:54
anon32then, there's no way to convert?09:54
compilerwriterNow there should be an icon on my desktop correct?09:54
sasallikarde09:54
gansinhoth3_d4r3d3vi1: try #beryl09:55
es1http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php09:55
sasallineden?09:55
anon32es1, I'll read that09:55
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Goomiecompilerwriter: maybe, not a big gui fan, if not just open up filebrowser and go to /media/floppy009:55
mjranon32, pike_ already noted the existence of convertfs, if you're feeling brave09:55
Justy-sasalli, alt+printscreen sadece aktif pencerenin resmini eker09:55
sasallitamam09:55
Justy-sasalli, boylece resmin daha kk boyutta olur ;)09:55
anon32mjr, feeling brave? is it over 50% failure then?09:56
sasalliwin de varda burada denemek aklma gelmedi09:56
mjrhow should I know09:56
es1seriously, given the cost of new discs (100 bucks for 200 GB), it's a cheap way to do the conversion09:56
Justy-Hello again, I was following those steps: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560 . And at first step i did this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26350/ and I got that error on pastebin. Can anyone help me solving that problem?09:56
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anon32um... nowhere does it say gparted can convert..09:56
mjranon32, that's because it can't09:56
anon32es1, but buying one is a WASTE of my time... I want this done quickly09:56
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x1alphahello do the xgl debs work ?09:56
anon32mjr, exactly09:56
es1how valuable did you say your data was?09:56
compilerwriterYay I have been able to access an old resume that was on the floppy.  Thank you.09:56
es1What's the cost of losing it?09:57
compilerwriterNow will I have to mount and unmount the thing everytime I use it?09:57
anon32es1, not very valuable, what's at cost here is my TIME which is infinitely valuable09:57
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Goomiecompilerwriter: dont be lazy :)09:57
dobbbobcan i upgrade to the latest edgey from the latest dapper???09:57
mjranon32, well then obviously convert is for you, should do it quickly if it works :] 09:57
es1Okay, not trying to be a pain, only trying to understand.  Then why do the conversion?  I missed that part.09:57
compilerwriterI am just asking.  The cdrom drive takes care of itself.  Will the floppy now that it is set up?09:57
IcemanV9compilerwriter: you can write a script to mount and unmount it :)09:57
Goomiecompilerwriter: you can try googling automount floppy09:57
anon32mjr, "if it works" - is the failure rate like 90% then or something?09:58
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dobbbobfrom the apt-get i mean09:58
mjranon32, I already answered that09:58
anon32es1, because bad performance costs me time too09:58
pike_dobbbob: yes09:58
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anon32mjr, where?09:58
es1I understand them09:58
mjr22:56 < mjr> how should I know09:58
es1then09:58
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compilerwriterI take I will have to do it manually then.09:58
Goomiecompilerwriter: there you go IcemanV9, you can write scripts to make your life easier09:58
anon32........................09:58
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anon32well, I have backups of my data... so I'll give it a shot... if it fails, I'll just restore and waste my time09:59
es1unfortunately, anon32, you are stuck with a bunch of bad solutions.09:59
Goomiecompilerwriter: i think you have to due to the nature of it09:59
dobbbobpike how? i want to update to edgey from within dapper09:59
mjranon32, what I'm trying to say, you've been given the options. It's up to you to choose now.09:59
es1I'm really sorry because I truly understand where you are at because I've been there09:59
compilerwritersudo unmount /dev/fdo ?09:59
anon32though, are Reiser and XFS both block-oriented and supported by kernel 2.6?09:59
compilerwriterWhat is the unmount command then?09:59
es1yes they are.09:59
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anon32ok09:59
Goomiecompilerwriter: you shouldnt need the sudo actually09:59
btdown!paste09:59
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:59
anon32time to give it a try...09:59
es1Best of luck09:59
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CromagDKis it possible that fsck is EXTREMELY fast when no errors found in the start of a partition ?10:00
anon32mm... the only thing at stake is my time10:00
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pike_dobbbob: well you can sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and do a find and replace replacing dapper with edgy then save then sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  i havent used edgy but that should work10:00
compilerwritermade me do the sudo to mount it.10:00
compilerwriterMaybe becaus it was the first time it was mounted.10:00
es1crimagdk: fsck is never fast10:00
IcemanV9compilerwriter: yep. sudo umount /dev/fd010:00
CromagDKes1: hmm ok10:00
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dobbbobok10:00
es1you may be seeing journaling kicking in10:00
anon32last question: does ubuntu's support for XFS suck?10:00
GoomieIcemanV9: he wanted it set up to mount and umount without root10:01
CromagDKes1: nothing no.10:01
es1anon32: don't know yet.  Haven't tried it10:01
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anon32mm... if it does, that's more time out the window :-\10:01
CromagDKes1: just fsck /dev/sda2 and 1 sec after it tells me its clean10:01
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anon32oh yea... I need xfs tools too10:01
es1you might also try jfs10:01
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anon32es1, perhaps10:01
IcemanV9ah10:01
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es1Cromagdk: all that problem.  It's just checking the clean flag10:01
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w30if fstab is setup with the users option then umount fd0 should be possible by any user10:02
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anon32fd0?10:02
es1you need to force it to do an fsck sometime.  These switches are in the man page10:02
_0001ubotu i need ATI drivers10:02
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Goomiew30: yeah i think his fstab has that in there10:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i need ATI drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:02
CromagDKes1: oh ok. so what can i do to check the disc more ?10:02
anon32I've seen sd* and hd* but never fd*....10:02
compilerwriterI will have to tell it to mount at /media/floppy0 when I want to mount the thing or will it mount it there now that the directory is already in existence?10:02
salkotIcemanV9, didn't work :/10:02
CromagDKfloppy disk ?10:02
w30not /dev/fd0 but just fd010:02
es1bad blocks10:02
_0001ubotu fglrx drivers10:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fglrx drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:02
CromagDKes1: ah ye thnkix10:02
_0001ubotu fglrx10:02
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:02
dobbbobpike it seems to be working10:02
es1you could also go purchase SpinRite if you use EXT 3 for your file system10:02
dobbbobill cross my fingers10:03
kupesoftI've no idea where to ask this - my linksys router has a power supply that is 12V / 1000mA and I got a newer one, but that takes a power supply of 12V / .5A which I do not have.  Can I use the power supply on the newer one?10:03
mjr(the convertfs concept actually seems spiffy)10:03
es1that little utility has saved my bacon more than once10:03
Justy-Hello again, I was following those steps: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560 . And at first step i did this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26350/ and I got that error on pastebin. Can anyone help me solving that problem?10:03
pensosI need some help10:03
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Goomiecompilerwriter: i think the entry is in your fstab all you have to do is mount /dev/fd0 and it should mount it there10:03
compilerwriterumount /dev/fd010:03
pensosam new to Ubunti10:03
pensosanyone care to help10:03
dobbbobpike is it better to do a fresh install off the cd? will i get the same performance? i suspect maybe i have extra packages now leftover from dapper10:03
w30ok, then umount floppy0 in that case should be possible by any user10:03
es1don't we all need help10:03
dobbbobubuntui!10:03
pensoslol es110:03
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pensosi need very basic help10:03
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pensosvery very basic10:03
k0rdpensos, whats your question?10:03
pensoscan you help10:04
es1give it a shot10:04
dobbbobanyone know if i can install compiz from synaptics, or do ai need to do a lot of complicated text editing of files?10:04
anon32!ask10:04
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:04
pensosi have downloaded macromedia flash10:04
es1think of IRC is like a room full of a bunch of very drunk and technology people10:04
pensosi want to installl it10:04
anon32HAHAHAHA10:04
IcemanV9salkot: looks like you'll need a new driver10:04
anon32I see what's gonna happen now...10:04
Goomiedobbbob: if you look through ubuntu forums theres a guide10:04
k0rdpensos, did you apt-get it?10:04
anon32!flash10:04
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:04
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dobbbobgoomie that guide is complicated!10:04
pensoshow do i do that10:04
k0rdopen your terminal type "sudo apt-get install flash"10:04
pike_dobbbob: shouldnt matter.  but if there is a problem submit a bug report :)10:04
k0rder10:04
pensosok10:04
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Goomiedobbbob: and yes there is some text editing to be done complicated is a matter of opinion10:04
k0rd"sudo apt-get install flash non-free"10:04
pensosone second10:04
k0rd^^ type that10:04
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k0rdwith quotations10:05
salkotIcemanV9, I've done an apt-get update/upgrade...10:05
k0rdwithout*10:05
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dobbbobgoomie how long until i can do it from synaptics10:05
dobbbobwhen will it be incorporated???10:05
dobbboblike mandriva 200710:05
compilerwriterThat line was supposed to make it so that I need not be root to mount the blasted drive.  What is wrong with it?10:05
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IcemanV9salkot: i meant that you have to download the driver from madwifi website and compile it. it's in thread.10:05
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pensosCouldn't find package flash10:05
pensosthats the errror10:06
k0rdhmm10:06
k0rdhang on10:06
anon32!repositories10:06
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource10:06
pensosok10:06
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pensosi have it in another folder10:06
salkotIcemanV9, oh, I thought I would have the latest one from doing the upgrade10:06
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anon32time to try my luck with convertfs..10:06
pensoscould that be the reason10:06
w30compilerwriter, just do it like mount floppy0 and umount floppy0 as a user10:06
puffhoary->breezy dist-upgrade went smoothly, but the breezy->dapper upgrade now has the postfix config menu up.10:06
IcemanV9salkot: i have done it before on hoary. it was easy (for me).10:06
k0rdpensos, no10:06
k0rdI gave you the wrong command hang on10:06
pensosloool ok10:06
pensoshit me with the right onw10:07
k0rdmy bad :(10:07
w30compilerwriter, then mount will read fstab10:07
pensosi have been using Suse 1010:07
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pensosit hang up on me last night10:07
anon32error.... "no loop device support in kernel"10:07
anon32looks like I have to format10:07
pensosformatted everything and put in Ubunti10:07
puffHm, I think i'll skip postfix for now, though I should seriously think about using a smarthost setup at some point.10:07
anon32wtf is loop device support, and how do I enable it?10:07
k0rdok pensos10:07
k0rd"sudo apt-cache flash"10:08
pensosok10:08
k0rdsudo apt-cache search flash10:08
k0rdanything come up?10:08
anon32error.... "no loop device support in kernel"10:08
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pensosnope10:08
pensosnothing10:08
anon32what's the problem here?10:08
pensos-$10:09
Goomieanon32: 127.0.0.1 for tcp/ip, couldnt tell you the problem10:09
pensosjust that10:09
pensos~$10:09
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pensosthats what comes up10:09
anon32Goomie, it's in reference to file systems10:09
compilerwriterwhat do you do to get the machine to read the fstab file.  I tried source, but that evidently doesn't work in bash.10:09
k0rdI have to run pensos10:09
k0rdhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13840510:09
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gansinhoI have a usb bluetooth dongle which is not supported, is there anything that I can do?10:09
sc0tty_hi10:09
k0rdThat should help you better than I can10:09
pensosk0rd what about using add/remove10:09
Justy-Hello again, I was following those steps: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560 . And at first step i did this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26350/ and I got that error on pastebin. Can anyone help me solving that problem?10:09
compilerwriterIt said It couldn't find floppy0 in the fstab or mtab.10:09
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cherubielanon32: you need to CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP and recompile the kernel10:10
k0rdhope you get it pensos10:10
k0rdim out later10:10
anon32!!!!!!!!!1110:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 11 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:10
anon32GOD DAMN IT10:10
cherubielcompilerwriter: try mdir a:10:10
pensoshavent got it10:10
es1anon32 hold10:10
anon32well, that'll take longer than backing up 2TB, so nvm10:10
pensosis it this hard to install anything in Ubuntu10:10
es1loopback devices are present in standard ubunth10:10
sc0tty_I don't know why, but all searches with easytag (cddb) always returns empty :(10:10
es1don't panic10:10
anon32es1, err... so why the error?10:10
sc0tty_it used to work at one time, but it doesn't anymore10:10
es1bad software creation10:11
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compilerwritermdir command not found10:11
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es1I got an error about some type of Samba page not being available in the log which meant you haven't installed the package yet10:11
anon32es1, well... time to reformat then...10:11
es1not yet10:11
cherubielcompilerwriter: apt-get install mtools10:11
es1give me a couple minutes to let me find some notes10:11
mikefooAnyone use ip over kvm here?10:11
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pensoscan anyone help me install a program10:12
pensosmacromedia flash10:12
compilerwriterdoing that now.  What the hell are mtools?10:12
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compilerwriterhad to sudo apt-get.10:12
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cherubielcompilerwriter: does the mounting umountin automagically for ya10:12
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compilerwriterThey are mounting tools.10:13
Goomiepensos: ubuntuguide.org all your basic needs, id also check out automatrix10:13
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pike_pensos: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree    do a search on wiki.ubuntu.com for stuff like flash and mp310:13
pensosthanks Goomie and pike10:13
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compilerwriterso do I now just hit the button to eject the disk and it will umount the damned drive?10:13
w30compilerwriter, try mount /media/cdrom0 and umount /media/cdrom010:13
phaedrus44anyone use a broadcom wireless card?10:14
anon32phaedrus44, me10:14
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phaedrus44sweet what one?10:14
phaedrus444311?10:14
compilerwritersays no media is found.10:14
w30compilerwriter, does that work?10:14
Goomiecompilerwriter: u can hit the button any time , but if you have stuff that you wanted to write to it , then it might not get wrote unless u umount first10:14
anon32oh wait... mine's a wired card10:14
anon32sorry10:14
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x1alphaanyone got xgl working from the debs in the repository ?10:15
phaedrus44whats wired?10:15
anon32es1, hello?10:15
phaedrus44oh ethernet?10:15
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anon32phaedrus44, yea.... sorry10:15
phaedrus44np10:15
w30compilerwriter, I should have said /media/floppy and media/floppy0 for a flopy drive .my bad...10:15
es1still here10:15
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compilerwriterI remember reading that the computer might take its own sweet time writing stuf.10:15
es1just found what I was looking for.  I built a script for generating flash memory images for IP cop10:15
Justy-OMG!, I was following those steps: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560 . And at first step i did this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26350/ and I got that error on pastebin. Can anyone help me solving that problem?10:15
compilerwriteryou meant mount /media/floppy010:15
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es1I use loopback devices for that application10:16
anon32...that helps me how?10:16
es1it will show you how to create loopback devices10:16
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anon32es1, I'm not very sophisticated in the way of the penguin, perhaps you can give me a step-by-step?10:16
w30compilerwriter, I will get it right yet, mount /media/floppy0 and umount media/floopy010:16
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es1I found I had to do a modprobe loop to guarantee that things would work right10:16
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es1so on your system, type "modprobe loop"10:17
es1and tell me what you get10:17
w30compilerwriter, sorry for the bad typing.10:17
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anon32es1, no output10:17
anon32is that good or bad?10:18
es1lsmod output should show you there is now a loop module in your kernel10:18
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es1remember, silence implies consent10:18
es1especially when it comes to UNIX commandline tools10:18
anon32es1, yes, it exists10:18
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es1okay good10:18
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anon32do call convertfs now, or do I need to hack some more?10:19
es1looking...10:19
willys_fueguinoHi!! How can I change my default file manager???10:19
es1actually, if it's trying to create its own loopback devices then try it now10:19
compilerwriterThat is ok w30  now that I know it was not me.10:19
anon32willys_fueguino, err.... WHY?10:19
compilerwriterYour heart was in the right place w3010:19
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willys_fueguinoanon32, 'cause I like thunar more than nautilus10:19
anon32es1, it's working... I convertfs at my own risk.....10:19
es1you're welcome10:20
anon32and then it aborts10:20
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anon32:-(10:20
es1that's not my fault10:20
willys_fueguinoanon32, do you know how to do it?10:20
es1any idea why it aborts?  Any printouts, and the log messages?10:20
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Ropechoborra!isoburn10:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about isoburn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:20
anon32es1, no10:20
Ropechoborra!burn10:20
ubotuCD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto10:20
avagant!mov10:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mov - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:21
es1Any log messages?10:21
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es1 log messages10:21
avagantk3b is the best cd burner I've run into.10:21
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anon32es1, it prints no output other than aborting10:21
anon32in the warning, it says that it'll abort if the fs gets full... but it aborts instantly10:21
es1echeck /var/log/messages10:21
pensosstill cant get it10:22
pensosi want to install a file10:22
pensosi have downloaded online10:22
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willys_fueguinoSomeone know how can I change my default file manager???10:22
anon32es1, a ton of gibberish... I can't make sense of it10:22
es1anon32 does the documentation say anything about minimum requirements for free disk space10:22
anon32es1, nope :-(10:22
Justy-OMG!, I was following those steps: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560 . And at first step i did this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26350/ and I got that error on pastebin. Can anyone help me solving that problem?10:22
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es1it's no more gibberish and than Estonian is to American ears10:22
anon32wonder if my device needs to be mounted10:22
pensoses110:22
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es1or maybe unmounted10:23
ladydoorwillys_fueguino: start up a different one? <alt>F2, in gnome, is run program10:23
pensoscan u assist man!!10:23
anon32I tried it umounted...10:23
es1pensos: hold for a few minutes10:23
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pensosok10:23
es1usually file system conversions require the filesystem to be quiescent10:23
willys_fueguinoladydoor, but to set it as default file manager...10:23
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anon32es1, quiescent?10:23
es1what does the documentation say?10:23
kuoylamhow to change the background image using a command line with gnome ?10:23
anon32es1, absolutely nothing10:23
es1Stable, quiet, not changing, frozen10:23
Jerem1can anyone spare a bit of time for a very very green ubuntu newbie?10:24
es1it's a technical term for "okay, nobody move"10:24
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quietoi?10:24
anon32god damn it... time to reformat then10:24
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noname_...10:24
Goomiekuoylam: you want a picture for your terminal?10:24
es1then I suggest taking a deep breath.  Whenever I make a change in anger, it makes me more angry10:24
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es1because I usually screwed something up10:25
anon32well... since plan A failed... time for plan B10:25
ladydoorwillys_fueguino: how do you usually start your file manager?10:25
jeff_Is this the right channel to ask in about upgrades to Edgy?10:25
LjL!edgy10:25
es1would you mind taking a moment with me to review10:25
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule10:25
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sorush20lsusb is not working for me10:25
pensosanyone  can help10:25
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willys_fueguinoladydoor, Places>home10:25
pensosin installation procedure10:25
bruenig!es10:25
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.10:25
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Jerem1I just loaded Ubuntu for the very first time and then tried to update. the update failed and now it refuses to  load properly!! and I am starting to get frustrated!10:26
kuoylamGoomie: I just want to change the gnome background image on a computer via ssh10:26
pensos.tar.gz10:26
es1pensos: what's the installation process are trying to do10:26
jjkwhat kernel should be in  ubuntu 6.06LTS right now?10:26
pensoshow do i install that type of file10:26
bruenigJerem1, what do you mean by failed and what do you mean by refuses to load properly10:26
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Goomiekuoylam: id start looking in USER/.gnome10:26
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anon32hmm... /me notes that he's lost and has a long restore ahead10:26
ladydoorwillys_fueguino: why not just put a launcher on your gnome bar thing with the command "someotherfilemanager /home/username" or whatever the equivilent pointer is?10:26
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pensosi want to install the flash player10:26
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ladydoorwillys_fueguino: then you don't even have to go into the menu.10:26
pensoswhats the procedure es110:27
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ladydoorwillys_fueguino: or you could create a keybinding to open some other file manager on your home dir.10:27
willys_fueguinoladydoor, ;-). XDDD I fell like a fool...10:27
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es1pensos: there are documentation pieces out there on installing flash that people have given you.  Those bits of documentation will guide you far better than I can10:27
boink2.6.15-23 is the latest dapper kernel10:27
es1they are the very pieces I go to whatever I set up a new system that needs flash10:27
pensosgive me the link10:27
ladydoorwillys_fueguino: no worries! i ask quesions all the time that in retrospect seem so obvoius10:27
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ladydoor*obvious10:27
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compilerwriterThanks for all the help all.10:27
es1!flash10:27
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:27
pensosgive me the link to those pieces10:27
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Jerem1my connection dropped (failed update) and now pretty much everything in the upper right corner of the default install will not show up (no date/time, network, etc.)10:27
kuoylamGoomie: first step, how to change my own background image using a command in a terminal that i've openned on gnome?10:27
anon32alrighty... now the only thing that would suck is if Ubuntu's XFS support was crappy and development level10:28
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BoglizkCan anyone tell me if GPC is preinstalled with Ubuntu?10:28
bruenigJerem1, right click on the panel and select add the panel10:28
host`!mplayer10:28
ubotumplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile10:28
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.10:28
es1pensos: I just told the robot to give you those links.  If you look above and see the "for multimedia issues" line, that has the information you need10:28
Goomiekuoylam: ask yourself do you need to change a background image from a terminal?10:28
anon32Boglizk, why don't you just check your apt lists?10:28
Jerem1the mouse will not even respond to the panel10:28
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Boglizkanon32, becouse i'm not on Linux atm10:28
host`ther eis no apt-get10:28
bruenigpensos, do you have the flash tar.gz file from adobe?10:28
pensosthanks10:28
pensosnow tell me sth10:28
anon32Boglizk, one sec then10:29
kuoylamGoomie: that doesn't answer my question10:29
es1you're welcome.10:29
pensoshow do you tell the robot to give answers10:29
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Boglizkanon32: Thanks10:29
Jerem1sorry for the very very newbie problems but I really want to learn10:29
es1But sth??10:29
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jjkmy sound and usb is not working and currently running kernel 2.6.12-10 will the kernel upgrade solve those problems?10:29
pensossomething  = sth10:29
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pike_pensos: you can /msg ubotu .. and it will open a private conversation10:29
anon32no, it's not10:29
boinkjjk: maybe10:29
mnkhi all10:29
pensosok thanks10:29
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ubuntu_hei kaikille10:29
mnkwhen is the next version of ubuntu coming out?10:29
boinkyou could try an apt-get update10:29
boinkmnk: at the end of this month10:29
HedgeMagemnk: sometime this month.10:30
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KenSentMe!schedule10:30
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule10:30
boink25/26 October is the release date10:30
Goomiekuoylam: look for the gnome config file for your user most likly, not sure where it is do a ls -a in your home dir10:30
bruenigJerem1, the update failing should not in theory ruin your panel. But you said that you just installed so why not reformat and reinstall and start over since you won't be losing anything.10:30
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es1you never can tell when it will actually come out but you can tell when it has because the net crashes10:30
anon32naming yourself "Ubuntu" seems kinda boastful in this channel...10:30
yiffI just tried a dist-upgrade to edgy and upstart refuse to replace sysvinit and all my X-stuff refuse to replace the existing X-stuff too. Does anyone know how I should proceed?10:30
bruenig!edgy10:30
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Goomiekuoylam: but if your using SSH you dont see a background so you might as well wait till your home and have the gui to when you will actaully see the change10:30
anon32yiff, burn the disc image and install from the CD10:30
kuoylamGoomie: I know that10:31
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kuoylamGoomie: It's not for me10:31
yiffanon32: Is that the only way? :-(10:31
jjkboink: apt-get update didn't find anything10:31
host`!tar10:31
ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression10:31
Jerem1I'll try that thanks! is there a way to separate out the unnecessary updates and only get the critical system up dates (read: very very slow and remote Internet connection)10:31
anon32yiff, seems the best way10:31
Goomiekuoylam: ill look around for the location of the file10:31
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kuoylamGoomie: It's to make a joke to my girlfriend actually :)10:31
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anon32why do we have tons of weird codenames? why can't we just call edgy *buntu-beta?10:32
boinkwho knows10:32
avagantWhy not?10:32
hoelk!ace10:32
ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression10:32
es1because it's more fun10:32
jjkis there any other way to update the server10:32
yiffanon32: Bummer. That's gonna take all night and I'm gonna lose all my existing installed software. Does anyone have any good experience from dist-upgrading to edgy?10:32
ladydooranon32: it's a debian-based tradition!10:32
jjk*kernel10:32
Goomiecd .gnome10:32
Goomiels10:32
UtopiateI'm trying to compile mhxd and I get an error stating that my gcc can't output executables...10:32
es1I name all of my camram releases after characters in Alice in Wonderland10:32
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Goomiewhoops10:32
TmWrk_Quilthis channel has way too much traffic to be meaningful anymore10:32
ladydooranon32: also, i think it makes it easier when updating to a new version10:32
anon32eh, beware file-roller's 7z support - it fails to compress and decompress directories10:33
anon32ladydoor, meh..10:33
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host`TmWrk_Quil, there is almost 1000 people here, that will happen10:33
bayzidercan some one help me i instaled a windows app using wine. When i start the app it tells me i need to install active x browser object. How do i do that10:33
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es1I'm still having trouble figuring out why eth0 isn't recognized10:33
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anon32bayzider, by installing the object using wine?10:33
srafxes1, what card are you using?10:33
bayzideranon32 : what?10:33
ladydooranon32: so like, if dapper were instead "*buntu-beta," people would then have to change their sources.list to read "*buntu" instead of "*buntu-beta," and there would be much moving around of things on the internet10:34
es1the kernel sees it but the DHCP client doesn't10:34
Utopiatelooking for some help with a GCC compile...10:34
anon32meh10:34
es1srafx: what ever VM Ware supplies.  If it's important, I can figure it out10:34
anon32Utopiate, do you have a makescript?10:34
es1I have three other virtual machines running just fine10:34
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Utopiateanon32: I'm trying to compile mhxd and I get an error during...10:34
anon32``10:34
cherubielUtopiate: sudo apt-get install build-essential10:34
srafxi just goinged...so your using vmware?10:34
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Goomiekuoylam: still there10:35
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anon32Utopiate, yea... you need the build tools as well as the dependencies for your prog10:35
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es1srafx:http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php   yes I am using VM Ware.  It's the only way I can have Linux on the same machine as my speech recognition10:35
Goomiekuoylam: should be an xml file in ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/background10:35
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es1sorry, wrong URL10:35
UtopiateI have the deps... which are minimal... I just get an error stating that the C compiler can't make executables10:35
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es1http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26354/10:36
es1that's better10:36
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Utopiatecherubiel: beautiful... fixed her right up10:36
bayzideranon32: when i start the app it gives me  This application is requestion an activex browser object but the mozzila acitve x control is currently not installed"10:36
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es1anyway, that paste shows you the current state of ethernet and the devices I'm using10:36
cherubielUtopiate: do tat and retry10:36
kuoylamGoomie: I found it10:36
anon32bayzider, so.... you need to install the control10:36
Utopiateseems to be compiling now...10:36
anon32find it and install it10:36
bleesi got a serius problem , i updated my breezy to dapper , i restart my pc , i write my user and pass , i enter a few seconds to the sesion and then the sesion closed and i came back to the menu where the pc ask for ur pass and user , any sugestion , PLEASE!!:(10:37
bayzideranon32 : how do i do that10:37
cherubielUtopiate: beerware :P10:37
Goomiekuoylam: where was it at?10:37
anon32bayzider, how should I know? what's the program. what does it do, and what control is it?10:37
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bayzider! activeX10:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about activeX - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:37
anon32:-( - last time I backuped and restored, I forgot one file...10:37
v1pzHi, can somebody help me with UT2004?10:37
es1srafx:  still there?10:38
stu_can someone help me get my optical out working, got no sound from it at the moment10:38
ladydoorUtopiate: you probably need to install build-essential.10:38
bayzider! ActiveX10:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ActiveX - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:38
ladydoor!windows10:38
ubotuFor help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm10:38
ladydoorbayzider: ^^^10:38
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anon32ladydoor, that's a WINE question10:38
bean-ohany video player on my system outputs a bad picture. brightness and contrast are totally screwed up. its not specific to settings on the individual players or videos, because on another machine the picture is fine. any ideas?10:38
Utopiateladydoor: I did and the compile was a success! Thanks to all!10:38
srafxyeah still here..but i thought you were running linux and trying to get windows internet10:38
ladydooranon32: ah.10:38
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ladydoorUtopiate: sweet!10:38
srafxnever ran vmware on windows10:38
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anon32Utopiate, :-P10:38
anon32we all make that mistake sometime10:39
MrObviousHowdy.10:39
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srafxin vmware cant you choose to use nat? then it should auto detect in linux10:39
bleesi got a serius problem , i updated my breezy to dapper , i restart my pc , i write my user and pass , i enter a few seconds to the sesion and then the sesion closed and i came back to the menu where the pc ask for ur pass and user , any sugestion , PLEASE!!:(10:39
MrObviousHow do I get characters like the accented e in re'sume'?10:39
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stu_7.1 Hardware Sound Controller (VIA Envy24PT) - cant get optical out to work... well dunno how??10:39
es1srafx: I don't think of this as a VMware problem.  I think of this as a detecting the right ethernet cards problem10:39
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es1like I said, it sees ETH zero10:40
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es1but for some reason, it can't bring it up.  And I don't know what makes that decision.10:40
ladydoorMrObvious: change your keyboard layout. are you in gnome? oh! and if you're in gnu screen, you can create digraphs with C-a C-V10:40
bruenigblees, it didn't give you an error?10:40
es1Modules.conf looks right10:40
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es1setting up the right device aliases to the right cards10:40
es1so I am very confused10:41
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MrObviousladydoor: No I'm in Enlightenment DR 0.17. How does that work? Do you mean the control key?10:41
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es1I'm almost ready to just wipe out that virtual machine and start over again10:41
es1it probably would've been faster if I did that this afternoon earlier10:41
bleesbruenig, no nothing10:41
v1pzHi, can somebody help me with UT2004?10:41
bleesonly closed the sesion10:41
srafxwell, its kind of weird because vmware will use the windows drivers sort of10:41
srafxbecause linux will run on top of windows10:41
bruenigblees, try logging in to the console10:41
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bruenigsee what happens10:42
es1it's only weird because of your expectations10:42
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es1when you really wrap your head around virtual machines, you understand that inside the virtual machine, nothing else exists except "hardware"10:42
aw1How do I mount a FAT partition with scandinavian letters in file names properly? Which codepage? "mount -o codepage=865..." does not work?10:42
ladydoorMrObvious: yeah, if the program in question is running in screen. otherwise, let me find a link for you.10:42
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es1so from the OS perspective, it's just using those ethernet cards it found lying around.  :-)10:42
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MrObviousladydoor: I've never messed with screen :\.10:42
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bean-ohany video player on my system outputs a bad picture. brightness and contrast are totally screwed up. its not specific to settings on the individual players or videos, because on another machine the picture is fine. any ideas?10:42
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bleesbruenig i try but i cant get something10:43
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bleesi think the x are not the problem10:43
bruenigcould be gnome...10:43
bleesi cant start with graphics10:43
ladydoorMrObvious: it's one of the useful-est programs i've ever come across10:43
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Shponglehello?10:43
tasulzerreally silly question: what is the order of the "versions" of ubuntu?10:43
anon32GAH! my backup DVDs were left in the sun and are weird-colored now..10:43
anon32tasulzer, from lowest to highest, why?10:43
bruenigdoes anyone know how to login to the console from the login window? is it alt + f2?10:43
ladydoorMrObvious: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23779410:44
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ladydoorMrObvious: look at my post...hopefully you'll find it helpful :-)10:44
w0rhello :)10:44
anon32bruenig, tried ctrl+shirt+f1?10:44
bruenigtasulzer, warty warthog, hedgy hedgehog, breezy badger, dapper drake, edgy eft10:44
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ladydoorbruenig: control+alt+F[1-6] 10:44
es1anon32: Time to buy a new disk...10:44
brueniganon32, I remember it was something like that10:44
tasulzeranon32, thx10:44
es1:-)10:44
ladydoorbruenig: hoary hedgehog. lol10:44
MrObviousladydoor: Thanks!10:44
anon32es1, with that amount of money, I could my a new PC10:44
bleesbruenig its control +alt+ f110:44
bleesor f2 f3 f410:44
ladydoorMrObvious: no problem! good luck and let me know how it works out for you!10:44
bruenigoh yeah sorry ladydoor10:44
MrObviousladydoor: Sure.10:45
anon32blees, thank you10:45
ladydoorbruenig: yeah, you should be sorry! JEEZ10:45
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ladydoorlol10:45
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bleesladydoor i luv u10:45
es1 how much storage are you talking about?  65 GB?  You can get that my storage just by rolling a bum on the street and ripping off his flash drive10:45
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w0ri'm trying to install last ubuntu 6.06, but i get black screen when starting X server10:45
anon32es1, if I buy a new hard drive, I expect 10000 RPM and 300GB10:45
w0ri've tryed many configs for my widescreen monitor (samsung 26'')10:46
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jlevI'm getting bzip2 error code 2 when I use apt-get update. Both on the ca and us mirrors. Any ideas?10:46
w0rnoone work, can u help me?10:46
es1ahh  I was thinking something more in line with near-term storage.  Something slow, something quiet, something in a FireWire or USB two enclosure10:46
anon32w0r, tried installing in non-interactive mode?10:46
tasulzer/q10:46
es1something that will get the job done while you go do something else10:46
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anon32es1, hell no, why do you think I want a high-performance FS?10:46
ladydoor!language10:47
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:47
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BreetaiHey all, running 6.10 amarok worked till about 2 days ago, now all of a sudden, it says it can't play mp3's. If I log in as root, it can, if I log in as a regular user, it cant? Any ideas?10:47
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anon32besides, external drives are a waste, the only good ones are internal10:47
es1I wasn't thinking of the disk as being permanent storage10:47
anon32Breetai, file permissions?10:47
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w0ranon32, i don't know how to do that, i'm e newbie10:47
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shorthornshi10:47
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w0rcan u explain?10:47
es1just something to hold the data on while you rearrange the wheels on the cart to your liking10:47
jlevAnybody? seems like apt-get should work, especially the us mirror10:47
anon32es1, put in new one.... remove drive when needed and place in safe box10:47
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lansinghey ppl10:48
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manu__hello10:48
srafxanyone run XGL on ati with dual screens?10:48
anon32es1, actually, a better thing for that is one of em next-gen rewritables... this company invented a single-layered 200GB disc that writes at several GB/s10:48
es1then yes you want the 10,000 rpm big honking drive.  But it was still be cheaper than buying a new PC with the 10,000 rpm big honking drive in it10:48
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Breetaianon32: 1) how would they have changed on their own 2) what files am I looking for?10:48
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Flannelsrafx: #ubuntu-xgl10:48
host`hmm... "snow.c:3874: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type"10:48
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bleesi got a serius problem , i updated my breezy to dapper , i restart my pc , i write my user and pass , i enter a few seconds to the sesion and then the sesion closed and i came back to the menu where the pc ask for ur pass and user , any sugestion , PLEASE!!:(10:48
es1that's impressive10:48
es1that's real impressive10:48
anon32Breetai, no idea10:48
srafxFlannel: thanks10:48
anon32es1, it uses dual recording lasers... and it costs a fortune10:49
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es1anyway, I'm going to go rebuild a new virtual machine because I can't straighten out the networking on this one10:49
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Flannelblees: in session go to "safe gnome" and try again10:49
anon32why virtual machines?10:49
al_dvd-ripper for ubuntu?10:49
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anon32!dvdrip10:49
ubotudvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.52.5-0.0 (dapper), package size 365 kB, installed size 1656 kB10:49
Flannelblees: er, failsafe gnome, something like that10:49
anon32warning, it depends on some GTK 1.2 lib10:49
ellioTbanyone know about exit status 135 errors from a dist-upgrade? dpkg is yelling at me for like 8 packages10:49
bleesFlannel , where is safe gnome10:49
es1because I need multiple machines to do my testing.  I am disabled and use speech recognition and the only way I can have Linux and speech recognition at the same time is to use Windows as my host OS and Linux as my guest.10:49
kuoylamGoomie: ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/background/%gconf.xml10:49
ellioTband i can't remove them or reinstall them10:49
puffhm, okay,t his is odd.10:50
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Flannelblees: on the login screen, there's a "session" button, click it, and select failsafe gnome10:50
anon32es1, my sympathies10:50
w0ranon32, can u explain how to install in non-interactive mode?10:50
bleesok wait Flannel10:50
puffThe dist-upgrade appears to have hung after I cancled out of postfix.10:50
es1I'm also developing something for my customers which is a model of using a virtual machine for the base of their application and using the native OS as just a platform for running the virtual machine10:50
anon32w0r, what CD are you using? it should have a command-line boot option if it's the standard10:50
puffOn the line:  "Moving /etc/cups/cupsd-browsing.conf to new location /etc/cups/cups.d/browse.conf...10:50
anon32es1, two words - performance drain10:51
w0ri downloaded it from the site10:51
kuoylamGoomie: but there should be a command line to do that10:51
es1yes, there are some inefficiencies but it's really not that bad.  You get seriously improve backup capability, restoration time is dramatically improved, and to businesses, that's worth more than gold10:51
anon32w0r, which one? there's too many versions we have on our site...10:51
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es1believe me, if I can run three virtual machines and speech recognition at the same time on the laptop, there isn't that much in the way of performance drain10:51
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anon32es1, to normal people, noticing that their effective RAM is halved and their disk usage spiking is pretty bad10:51
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w0rstandard version, it has some options and a boot line at the bottom of the page10:52
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ellioTbanyone else have problems with a dist-upgrade? a bunch of packages from it won't install, now i can't install anything10:52
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jinroDoes anyone know if you can customize the shutdown dialog window?10:52
puffhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26358/10:52
anon32w0r, hmm.... well, just check command line install10:52
puffSo should i just give up and kill it or reboot?10:52
anon32unless you have the LiveCD... in which case you give up and die10:52
ellioTblibadns1 and a bunch of others won't remove or install10:52
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puffEven more fun, fonts in firefox appear to be hosed.10:53
DemisMok why can't i find xchat or any other programs in the package list or in apt-cache? <=Fresh install.10:53
FlannelellioTb: pastebin your sources.list10:53
w0rbut in the command line, what i have to write^10:53
w0r?10:53
jinroAnyone know any good HOWTOs for customizing the dialog windows in GNOME/METACITY/GDM?10:53
puffAll I get are boxes.10:53
FlannelDemisM: xchat-gnome is in main, xchat is in universe10:53
anon32w0r, it should be automated10:53
anon32just give it commands10:53
anon32commands = settings10:53
overshardhow can i get a program to run in the background... whats the command line like for ./myprogram.sh   ?10:53
es1anon32: but it really isn't a whole lot different from a native machine.  we are talking maybe 20% difference tops.  Now if your machine is running close to the edge, it is time to get a new machine.  But really in 90% of the applications I've seen, it makes no difference.  Unless of course you're running exchange but that's a whole different problem.10:53
ellioTbFlannel, ok10:53
Flannelovershard: & after the command10:53
ladydoorovershard: ./myprogram.sh &10:54
anon32es1, Oblivion 4 *cough*10:54
overshardFlannel: thats exactly what i wanted thanks couldn't remember10:54
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DemisMFlannel: how do i add those?10:54
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FlannelDemisM: universe?10:54
Flannel!tell DemisM about universe10:54
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es1Anon32: and one more thing, if you run on a CPU with Vanderpool/Prescott technology, the losses significantly lower.10:54
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es1If it's an old-school Pentium 4, yeah you do get a bit of a hit at times.10:55
v1pzMy ut2004 wont connect to online games help !!! :(10:55
ellioTbFlannel, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2635910:55
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anon32v1pz, um... this is a linux channel10:55
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ZoffixHi, when I copy/paste something, it often pastes an older copy, what applet do I need to start (or keyboard shortcuts to use) if I want to change the clipboard content? I had KClip or something like that on FC510:55
overshard.... how can i get that program to stay open even when i logout :D10:55
v1pzeuhm10:55
ladydoorv1pz: the help sites are probably just slow. wait a little and they may load.10:55
v1pzmy ut2004 runs on linux ?10:55
overshardv1pz, yes10:56
anon32v1pz, no it doesn't...10:56
v1pzyes it does10:56
overshardv1pz, very well i might add it runs better in there then on my windows box10:56
ladydoorv1pz: then why did you ask???10:56
robbb1anyone know a good notification area (for gaim) which will run on any WM ?10:56
FlannelellioTb: You're upgrading to edgy?  alright, you should ask in #ubuntu+110:56
ladydoorrobbb1: guifications?10:56
v1pzI tought you guys could read ?10:56
ellioTbalready in edgy10:56
ladydoorrobbb1: (the plugin i mean)10:56
v1pzMy ut2004 wont connect to online games help !!! :(10:56
v1pzonline !!!10:56
anon32v1pz, well... I'll give you the basics, and we're all volunteers so be courteous and typing in txt won't help you10:57
FlannelellioTb: alright, then still #ubuntu+1 is for edgy support ;)10:57
overshardv1pz: firewall blocking?10:57
ellioTbok, thanks10:57
ladydoorv1pz: right, the help site is probably slow, especially if a lot of people are looking at it.10:57
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v1pzladydoor, first learn to read then respond10:57
jinroAnyone know any good HOWTOs for customizing the dialog windows in GNOME/METACITY/GDM?10:57
anon32first of all, you need to check your router and firewall and open the ports that UT 2K4 uses10:57
robbb1no i run enlightenment and it doesn have a notification area - i need one10:57
v1pzno firewall blocking :)10:57
anon32v1pz, do you *want* to be banned?10:57
anon32v1pz, itpables?10:57
anon32iptables*10:57
sky123Does anyone know what the openldap server packages are to setup openldap server for authentication??10:57
v1pzdoes it run standard under ubuntu :(10:58
v1pz:/10:58
anon32robbb1, stop running enlightenment?10:58
anon32v1pz, yes10:58
v1pzowww :/10:58
anon32you can either manually config or download firestarter10:58
ladydoorrobbb1: are you talking about having notifications pop up when you receive a message? if so, the guifications plugin tends to be effective10:58
ladydoorrobbb1: i don't use gnome, either.10:58
es1does ubuntu use modules.conf?10:58
anon32es1, dunno10:59
overshardes1: you coming from gentoo?10:59
es1no10:59
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avagantIs there a way I can make windows and such not look so slick on ubuntu?10:59
overshardes1: ok nm then just curious10:59
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es1I'm trying to find out why vmware tools set up a modules configuration file10:59
anon32avagant, change your theme10:59
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ladydoores1: doesn't seem that way...10:59
anon32it's system -> preferences -> theme11:00
overshardavagant: install compiz/xgl and have all kinds of great looking themes11:00
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robbb1no i dont want them to popup. i want it to noitfy me that there is a message with the flashing icon11:00
es1#(^@#*^#&^##11:00
avagantI know but it seems all the themes make the corners rounded and weird crap.11:00
anon32overshard, he wants eye candy off11:00
ladydoorovershard: compiz for looking *less* slick?11:00
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anon32avagant, try boxes11:00
anon32(i.e. the ugly one)11:00
overshardsorry :S didn't understand question11:00
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Flannelavagant: there are plenty of themes that aren't rounded, take a look at gnome-looks.org... and.. um, there are other gnome theme sites.  ubuntu's gnome uses standard themes, so... you can poke around the intarwebs11:00
avagantboxes?11:00
ladydooravagant: check out another WM such as fluxbox or ratpoison.11:01
overshardFluxbox is a very good choice very minmal and sharp looking when customized11:01
anon32hehe, going to find compiz11:01
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Flannelavagant: or xubuntu (xfce)11:01
overshardi've been using compiz/xgl since its release and like about a week after intalling it i took off the wobble plugin... that was cool atfirst then got annoying :S11:02
anon32um... what exactly does compiz do?11:02
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anon32it says it hardware accelerates windows11:02
overshardother then that i love it11:02
ladydooranon32: it's some kind of fancy 3d desktop11:02
MrObviousladydoor: Hmm, nothing.11:02
ladydoorMrObvious: really? what keyboard layout did you select?11:02
MrObviousladydoor: It gives me the spanish layout, but I can't figure out how to use it.11:02
anon32is it good? or is it like vista eye candy?11:02
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es1accelerates?  As in 10 m per second per second as it falls to the ground11:02
MrObviousI did the en layout.11:02
ladydoorMrObvious: oh, i see. well, the apostrophe key is a "dead-key"11:03
overshardanon32: it is mostly a 3D desktop environment with tons of eye candy... makes Windows Vista look old :D11:03
ladydoorMrObvious: you hit it and then the accented letter11:03
anon32well... how do I use it?11:03
overshardanon32: infact if you really do like windows vista you can make linux look exactly like it11:03
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anon32the download says it's 127KB... something's wrong11:03
overshardhmmm you must not be doing something right sec let me find a great tutorial thati used11:04
ladydoorMrObvious: quotes are above the number 2, semicolon is above comma, colon is above period, slash is above 7, - and _ are where / usually is...11:04
aLPHa_LeaKanon32: eh, no.11:04
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MrObviousHmm.11:04
ladydoorMrObvious:  is where = was,  is above that11:04
anon32something's not wrong?11:04
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anon32well, how do I use it?11:04
MrObviousladydoor: Oh thanks. That works11:04
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MrObviousNow to set it to english before it drives me nuts lol.11:04
ladydoorMrObvious: and single-quote is where - usually is, with ? above that.11:04
anon32and voila... installed and nothing happened11:05
ladydoorMrObvious: lol. right11:05
overshardanon32: http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=91611:05
overshardanon32: much MUCH more then just installing a few files11:05
overshardanon32: it takes a bit of configuration11:05
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anon32overshard, oh... then it's not worth it11:05
jbinderi11:05
jbinderhi*11:05
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overshardanon32: it is definately worth it it makes linux look great :D11:06
mart_hi there, not sure if this is the correct place, someone may be able to help11:06
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anon32overshard, ok... do I need crazy display drivers?11:06
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overshardanon32: you can get it installed following that tutorial in like 5 - 10 mins11:06
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anon32and do I need a crazy graphics card?11:06
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Mr_CongenialityI just got a netsplit alert11:06
mart_I have glx and compiz running fine, but would like to change it so it uses my nvidia drivers11:06
overshardanon32: whats your current graphics card?11:06
lansinghow do i install java when its on my desk top11:06
anon32it's an ATI x30011:06
anon3232MB onboard, 96MB leech11:06
jbinderlansing: uhh... wtf11:06
overshardanon32: err hmmm dunno if that will even run it :S sorries11:07
mart_ive seen this is possible with beryl.... but do i need to remove glx and compiz before trying to install it?11:07
GarbaekHow do I give a user access to sudo su on my LAMP Server ?11:07
jbinderlansing: extract the file11:07
ladydoorlansing: didn't like the repos' java, or just didn't know it existed? :-)11:07
jbinderis it a tar.gz?11:07
anon32overshard, well... worth a try... except that I NEED TO ADD SOURCES? WTF11:07
jbinderGarbaek:11:07
overshardGarbaek: edit the sudoers file in /etc/11:07
ladydoor!shout11:07
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.11:07
jbinderGarbaek: sudo visudo11:07
Garbaekthanks guys !11:07
jbinderGarbaek: or sudo nano /etc/sudoers11:07
Flannel!tell lansing about java11:07
overshardanon32: errr ya??? i doesn't come in the normal repos11:08
lansingthanx flannel11:08
jbinder!gasp11:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gasp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:08
anon32forget it then11:08
ompauljbinder, only ever visudo it checks the sanity of the changes11:08
anon32I'm never compiling from source.... EVER11:08
jbinderompaul: what?11:08
Mr0bviousladydoor: There's supposed to be a way that you can do it with alt gr or something. I googled but couldn't get it to work.11:08
ladydooranon32: adding repos does not equal compiling from source11:08
jbinderompaul: ...visudo is the exact same thing as nano /etc/sudoers11:08
BlueEagleubotu: tell anon32 about easysource11:09
anon32then why the hell would I need the *source* repos?11:09
lansingflannel i got java already i need to load it from the terminal11:09
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ompauljbinder, no its not11:09
Flannellansing: er, what?11:09
overshardanon32: ummmm you don't have to compile from source it comes in packages + compile from source gives you a 5% speed boost anyways11:09
ladydooranon32: also, compiling from source has some advantages--for example, back when i used gaim, i couldn't install any plugins not in the repos until i installed from source.11:09
jbinderompaul: uh... i get the same exact thing11:09
ompaulvisudo edits the sudoers file in a safe fashion, analogous to vipw(8).11:09
ladydoorMr0bvious: i don't know what exactly altgr is. i've also heard of it, but i don't know how it works.11:09
jbinderit doesn't really matter... you can edit it either way, just as easy11:09
BlueEagleanon32: You don't need the source repos, you need a source which is a synonym for a repository.11:09
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ompauljbinder, IT Does Matter!11:10
anon32well, I don't have a infinite-GHz infinite-cores CPU, so compiling is way out of the question11:10
jbinderno11:10
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es1what method does ubuntu use for specifying modules if it does not use modules.conf?11:10
anon32BlueEagle, um... it says the source repos11:10
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jbinderi use both of them whenever i feel like it, and they always both work11:10
ompauljbinder, you are wrong read the man page for visudo11:10
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BlueEagleanon32: Oh, I am sorry. I misunderstood then.11:10
themagikphroghi all11:10
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pike_es1: /etc/modules i believe11:11
es1k thanks11:11
overshardanon32: gentoo all the way :P11:11
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jbinderompaul: still, its basically the same thing... i just read it, the main description11:11
BlueEagle!xgl11:11
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems11:11
ompauljbinder, if you make an error with nano nothing saves you, if you use visudo then you get syntax all the way11:11
jbindernot too different11:11
jbinderbarely11:11
jbinderi know11:11
jbinderi use visudo most of the time11:11
ompauljbinder, so don't give new users bad info11:11
themagikphrognew to linux here. just installed simply mepis. love it11:11
jbinderbut its still pretty easy to figure out where your mistake was11:11
themagikphrogany tips11:11
jbinderyou dont NEED the visudo help11:11
Flannelthemagikphrog: ask a mepis channel11:11
ompauljbinder, not if you can't edit the file cos you broke the file ....11:12
ladydoorjbinder: no, but it's always best to give the most standard instructions possible.11:12
themagikphrogok11:12
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pike_well mepis is really just ubuntu..11:12
ompauljbinder, ergo a safety net is better, and should only be suggested11:12
anon32ok... I was being stupid... although my graphics card will probably die if I try11:12
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anon32then again, some eye candy is better than none11:12
tuxtuxnotte a tutti11:12
oversharduse /usr/sbin/userdel -r baduserbad11:12
ompaul!it11:12
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:12
jbinderwtf11:13
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anon32overshard, how can you delete users recursively?11:14
lansingive already downloaded jave i just need to install it usein terminal11:14
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Flannellansing: When you download java from the repositories, it installs it.11:14
overshardanon32: ... it doesn't delete recursively... learn to read man pages... it delets the users home directory11:14
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Centaur5I have an Averatec laptop that can't even boot off a Dapper install cd because of a kernel error.  Is it therefore impossible to put Ubuntu on this laptop?11:15
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FlannelCentaur5: tried the alternate ISO?11:15
lansingsudo apt-get <<<11:15
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anon32overshard, meh... I was being lazy and assumed options were standardized like in MS PowerShell11:15
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avagantI like the rounded look kinda, but it just feels too contrived. Maybe I should go for a Windows look. xD11:15
Centaur5Flannel: Yes, I tried the live cd, alternate, and the edgy alternate and the same thing happens.11:16
FlannelCentaur5: what error is it?11:16
overshardanon32: in MS one company does them all so they standardize in linux many people do it and there are so many options that they just kinda do what they can... thus the use of man pages11:16
lansinghey avagant11:16
lansinghow r u11:16
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avagantI'm alright.11:16
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host`wow, people make installing mplayer out to be hard11:16
ompaul!offtopic11:16
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!11:16
avagantYou getting any better at this whole ubuntu thing?11:16
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lansinga lil11:16
host`there are simple instruction on ubuntu's page about how to do it and when followed, it works11:16
TheGateKeeperlansing: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox11:16
pike_Centaur5: you probably just need to pass a boot option in grub11:17
Centaur5Flannel: Oh my gosh, it might actually be working all the sudden.11:17
avagantlansing: I would advice before you do ANYTHING else, to definitley do some reading.11:17
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Vornotrongnar.  X doesn't know what it's looking at for my video card, and I have know idea what /I'm/ looking at for my video card, so I'm stuck in 1024x768@61Hz, and it gives me a headache.11:17
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lansingok11:17
avagantlansing: You could break your Ubuntu install in ONE keystroke I should know.11:17
FlannelTheGateKeeper, no.  There's a perfectly fine howto in the ubuntu wiki11:17
Centaur5Right now it's still stuck on mounting root filesystem using the live cd...still waiting11:17
avagantI'm telling you, I've reinstalled 5 times now.11:17
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kmaynardavagant, thank goodness i dont have that key11:17
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avagantkmaynard: Hahaha.11:18
black_13is the correct place to ask question about kubuntu?11:18
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sonyoandreasThings to do: 1. quit your job.  2. go to http://www.milliondollarscience.com   3. start making some freakin' money!   4 get filthy rich within 12 months!11:18
Flannellansing: Use the wiki guide.  It's simple, you still use package management. There's no reason not to.11:18
Centaur5That is already more than I got before.11:18
host`black_13, yes11:18
lansingwat site do i go to for breezy stuff11:18
host`er no11:18
avagantDo you have breezy?11:18
host`I don't know11:18
Flannelompaul. ping.11:18
ladydoorblack_13: if it's KDE specific, i'd go to #kubuntu, but if not here's fine11:18
ompaulack11:18
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sonyoandreasso u want to make 10 dollars right now11:18
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ompaulFlannel, ack11:18
ladydoor!u11:18
ubotuUnless you're Dutch, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..11:18
sonyoandreasjust go to million dollar science11:18
Flannelompaul, sonyoandreas.11:18
ladydoor!advice11:18
black_13would the correct way to install mc be apt-get install mc?11:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about advice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:18
anon32huh.... when compiz kills my system, I'll be back11:18
ompaulk11:18
ineswith what for a command can i go to the german ubuntu channel ????11:19
hardkaarehi is there any version of ffmpeg out for dapper with meg4 support(need it for gallery2)11:19
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avagantMaybe I should try another wm, but I'm afraid to.11:19
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Flannelines: /join #ubuntu-de11:19
avagantI've got everything working just the way I want it.11:19
ladydoorthere should really be an ubotu post explaining the difference between the word "advise" and the word "advice..."11:19
hardkaarempeg4 even11:19
inesthx flannel11:19
black_13because im trying that and "E: Couldn't find package mc"11:19
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avagantFor any advice on anythin you could also go to www.ubuntuforums.org11:19
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ladydoor!mc11:19
avagant=D11:19
ubotumc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2073 kB, installed size 5952 kB11:19
hardkaare!ffmpeg11:19
ubotuffmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20050918-5ubuntu1.1 (dapper), package size 3835 kB, installed size 9816 kB11:19
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flakeis there an equivalent autoexec.bat type file11:19
Flannellansing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-12dfa90d1580b2a1d946cc628a1c0d2bdaa5b259  for Breezy11:19
ladydoorblack_13: have you enabled the universe repository?11:20
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overshardwell thats odd... i send an email to sales@myserver.com and it goes to randomuser@myserver.com :S11:20
hardkaare!mpeg411:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mpeg4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:20
puffhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26360/11:20
anon32hmm, is mc better than nautilus?11:20
Flannelblack_13: believe midnight commander is in universe11:20
black_13ladydoor let me see11:20
ladydoorflake: what does that do?11:20
LaneHow would one make it so that only ssl connections were allowed in vsftpd, I didnt see anything in the config file, am I just missing it?11:20
overshard!postfix11:20
hardkaare!gallery11:20
ubotupostfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto11:20
ubotugallery: a web-based photo album written in php. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.1-1 (dapper), package size 7209 kB, installed size 25056 kB11:20
puffErrors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/lvm2_2.02.02-1ubuntu1_i386.deb11:20
kismet_dual boot question: can I install an OS on a secondary IDE channel drive?11:20
flakeso i can run a script that will connect my wireless card when i boot up11:20
puffhelp?11:20
Flannelblack_13: you need universe enabled11:20
Flannelkismet_: yes11:20
black_13yep i just added that to the sources.list11:21
flake /sbin/ifup eth1     which would need to run as root11:21
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plasmairc://irc.velocityirc.net/elitewarez11:21
avaganthahahaha11:21
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ladydoorblack_13: cool. then do sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install mc11:21
avagantlol warez.11:21
kismet_Flannel, any special tricks to get the MBR of the Primary IDE drive to work right?11:21
Centaur5Flannel: [4294671.989000]  ..MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC11:21
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black_13 i havent used ubuntu/debian in a while11:21
lansingwats the ifo site  for breezy11:21
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Flannelkismet_: it should work fine11:21
anon32plasma, wtf?11:21
anon32!warez11:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about warez - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:21
Flannellansing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-12dfa90d1580b2a1d946cc628a1c0d2bdaa5b259  for Breezy11:21
kismet_Flannel: thanks! If it breaks, i'm coming for you. ;)11:21
lansingthanx flannel11:21
host`I apt-geted mc just fine11:22
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ladydoorblack_13: yeah, it happens11:22
host`apt-got might be the correct term11:22
anon32how do I retrieve a package description with apt?11:22
chinkocan anyone help me? my ubuntu installation keeps locking up on me. i tried ide=nodma, disabling USB2.0, disconnecting all my usb devices, and most of the things mentioned in the help threads, and it either hangs shortly before the agp aparture is 128mb@ such&such line, or actually on it. anyone have an idea why? im running a celeron 2ghz with a nvidia geforce FX5200 on an ASROCK P4I65GV mobo, 512 ram, 2 optical drives and two western digital drives (211:22
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host`aptitude11:22
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Flannelanon32: apt-cache show [package]  or apt-cache showpkg [package]  depending on what info you want11:22
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ompaulchinko, a few more at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions11:23
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Centaur5pike_: How would I find out what command line option to do?11:23
chinkothanks, i'll read that now11:23
lansingwen iam at the index page wat java do i gat jre or bin11:23
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sarahhey guys11:23
sarahgot a question11:24
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sarahJust installed this software:  http://www.ubuntugames.org/Tremulous11:24
kakadohardkaare, ffmpeg has for a long time had mpeg411:24
Flannellansing: that page says to get both, sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-06-1_i386.deb and sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-06-1_all.deb11:24
sarahand I get an error message when I start it11:24
ladydoor\me gives a cheer for women linux users!11:24
sarahseems to be an error based on OpenGL11:24
sarahbut I am not sure11:24
hardkaarekakado: hmm, but it dossent work for me11:24
sarahI will paste the output to pastebin11:24
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overshard.... bash "man woman" ... :S11:24
lansingok11:24
IcemanV9hmm, is there a way I can see the list of what has been updated when i issued "aptitude update"?? something ain't right with volume control. if i remember it was libmusic something11:25
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overshardno man page for woman :S11:25
inescan somebody help me to install java please11:25
fdsdhey guys, I am customizing the ubuntu livecd for my school, we are going to use it for data recovery, I have a shell script that starts on tty1, but its really annoying because dmesg messages keep interupting the script, how do I turn that off?11:25
Flannel!tell ines about java11:25
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overshard!tell overshard about java11:25
LjLhm, i see this Tremulous is in edgy (even though Ubotu doesn't seem to know)11:25
lansingopen with archive man or save to disk11:25
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Flannelinfo tremulous edgy11:26
ladydoorovershard: for documentation of emacs modes, i'd check in the texinfo.11:26
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Flannel!info tremulous edgy11:26
ubotutremulous: Aliens vs Humans, team based FPS game with elements of an RTS. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.0-2 (edgy), package size 1153 kB, installed size 2740 kB11:26
overshardladydoor???? i don't us emacs11:26
jokoonHello, I'd like to install cabextract ( http://www.kyz.uklinux.net/cabextract.php ) but I don't know where is the file11:26
Flannelsarah: you might try asking in #ubuntu+1, that's the edgy channel11:26
flakeis there an autoexec.bat type file i can use in ubuntu11:26
sarahHere we go:11:26
LjLFlannel: ah. i was under the impression that the "edgy" wasn't needed for packages that are not in dapper11:26
sarahhttp://sial.org/pbot/20364?tx=on&submit=Format+it%2111:26
ladydoorovershard: oh, sorry...i thought you were talking about woman-mode (w/o man)...lol11:26
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sarahFlannel: I am not on edgy11:27
sarahFlannel: I am using Dapper Drake11:27
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Flannelsarah: Er... tremulous isn't in Dapper, is it?11:27
fdsdhey guys, I am customizing the ubuntu livecd for my school, we are going to use it for data recovery, I have a shell script that starts on tty1, but its really annoying because dmesg messages keep interupting the script, how do I turn that off?11:27
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ladydoorfdsd: have it start you in tty2?11:28
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fdsdladydoor, cant11:28
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ladydoorfdsd: oh.11:28
TheGateKeeperFlannel: this your perfectly good how to? ---> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java11:28
fdsdladydoor, ubuntu boots into tty111:29
aFxgood morning11:29
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ladydoorfdsd: right, but you can press alt+f2 to go to tty211:29
enz0hanyone know of any install issues with the Edgy beta desktop CD?  I'm in it right now but the install to HDD app is hanging11:29
aLPHa_LeaK n811:29
jokoonDoes anybody how install tahoma font on ubuntu ?11:29
Flannelenz0h: #ubuntu+111:29
jokoon+know11:29
fdsdladydoor, this is an app for techs at my school to run, I want it simple, so booting right to my script is the only way its going to work11:29
flakeif i add that /sbin/ifup eth1 to my /etc/network/interfaces, that should bring it up?11:29
ladydoorfdsd: ah, i see.11:29
sarahjust got it to run with "tremulous +set r_allowSoftwareGL 1" but VERY slow - any idea how to make it run faster?11:30
puffhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26361/11:30
pulverhey! is splashy working nicely with ubuntu yet?11:30
ladydoorjokoon: is it in mstcorefonts or whatever?11:30
ladydoor!msttcorefonts11:30
WeberCan someone tell me, why I can't activate sulogin?11:30
ubotumsttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB11:30
flakethink i'll try that, i don't see why it wouldn't11:30
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puffCan somebody help me?11:30
jokoonladydoor: I have a message in the terminal "not candidate" or something like that11:30
puffI'm getting an error on dist-upgrading from breezy to dapper, and now firefox is hozed so I can't even google on the error...11:31
bearcatquestion: I'm using Xchat in Ubuntu.  How do I add another chatserver, specifically I want to add irc.newnet.net11:31
ladydoorjokoon: is multiverse enabled?11:31
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jokoonladydoor: Don't know11:31
ladydoorbearcat: /connect irc.newnet.net11:31
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Flannelpuff: pastebin your sources.list11:31
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WeberCan someone tell me, why I can't activate sulogin?11:31
jachyraHow do I download torrents using Ubuntu from bash? Plz help11:31
bearcatah, ty ladydoor11:31
ladydoorjokoon: ok...read ubotu's pm in a sec11:31
ladydoorbearcat: np11:31
ladydoor!tell jokoon about repositories11:31
ladydoorjokoon: (if you don't know, it's not enabled)11:32
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jokoonok ty11:32
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lansingi got both of them now ,, wat do i type in the terminal to extract them11:32
puffFlannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26362/11:32
Flannellansing: that page tells you exactly what to type11:32
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bearcatI put irc.newnet.net in as a new chatserver, and hit connect  (that didn't work)  or do I put 'connect irc.newnet.net'  in the list of chatservers?11:32
puffI hope that's my sources.list, can't really see in firefox.11:32
FlannelWeber: have you tried the recovery console?11:32
paul0damn, i've upgraded my ubuntu to Edgy Beta, and X doesn't work anymore11:32
paul0i hate my monitor11:32
Flannelpuff: use lynx11:32
puffYeah, just did, that's them.11:33
aimazhow do you think ubuntu with xfce would run on Pentium 2 366MHz?11:33
jachyraCan someone please tell me how I can download torrents from bash? I'm new to Linux11:33
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fdsdhey guys, I am customizing the ubuntu livecd for my school, we are going to use it for data recovery, I have a shell script that starts on tty1, but its really annoying because dmesg messages keep interupting the script, how do I turn that off?11:33
aimazjachyra, look into the btdownloadcurses program11:33
aimazi forget what package it is in11:33
WeberFlannel, No. But when I try to activate it, by command "sudo -i" and then "sudo passwd root" nothing happens.11:34
jachyraaimaz: thanks!11:34
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IcemanV9aimaz: it'll run fine; much faster than gnome or kde if you're wondering11:34
proudtexandoes anybody know where kernel source is stored?11:34
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ladydoorjachyra: or try rtorrent or bittornado11:34
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ladydoorjachyra: they're both popular.11:34
pike_aimaz: ok probably but you might try fluxbox or alternatives after the xubuntu install11:34
jachyraladydoor: thank you!11:34
ladydoorjachyra: np11:34
paul0someone here know the right HorizSync and VertRefresh for Synmaster 3 monitors11:34
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ladydoorWeber: you don't need to use sudo after sudo -i, because as root you are all-powerful :-)11:35
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aimazok, thanks guys11:35
pike_aimaz: i use xinit instead of gdm and fluxbox on my older computer11:35
boinkpaul0: depends on the monitor11:35
aimazpike_, ok11:35
aimazany other things i could replace to speed it up a bit?11:35
ricaneliteim using KDE desktop, is it possible for me to put the trash bin on the desktop?11:35
boinkyou should be able to get that from the documentation11:35
ladydoorWeber: however, it's not recommended to set a root password. only do it if you absolutely know what you're doing!11:35
lansingwat do i do if it installed it in to my tmp folder11:35
ladydoor!root11:35
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.11:35
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Weberladydoor, I know what I am doing11:35
puffHm, I just went to try to apt-get remove/install firefox and it appears to be continuing iwth the dist-upgrade.11:35
paul0boink: Syncmaster 311:35
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LjLWeber: then out of curiosity, may i ask what you need a root account for?11:36
ladydoorWeber: cool. then the point is that after doing sudo -i you don't preface commands with sudo11:36
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ricanelitehow can you remove uninstall VMware?11:36
WeberLjL, because I have always be used to use su...11:36
LjLWeber: ah, good reason.11:36
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WeberLjL, its non of your buisness11:37
Weberit's*11:37
pike_ricanelite: there is a vmware-uninstall.pl in /usr/bin probably11:37
LjLWeber: i just said it was a good reason.11:37
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Weberladydoor, the funny thing about this is, that if I try to use a root command, it says that I don't have the adminstration prevelgies ?11:38
jvaihey is Bastille needed for a ubuntu workstation? i dl'ed last nyte, but it seems my default setup is ok.. & Bastille wasnt needed11:38
anon32:-( glx was evil11:38
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ladydoorWeber: weird. what's your bash prompt say?11:38
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[H] 3b0Rhow do i install the kernel-source for my current kernel?11:38
Weberjust a sec11:38
ladydoorWeber: (are you talking about after having done sudo -i to su to root?)11:38
anon32is there a replacement file manager for nautilus (just asking)?11:38
ladydooranon32: there are a lot of file managers.11:39
Weberladydoor, both11:39
jordananon32, Yes.11:39
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jvaiaqnybody using Debian's Bastille?11:39
puffI really don't like using "run the dist-upgrade until it stops complaining" approach.11:39
puffHm.11:39
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ladydoorWeber: are you in the group admin? less /etc/group|grep admin11:39
jordananon32, thor, konqueror, there are a lot of them.11:39
ricanelitei dont see it in /sr/bin11:39
anon32ok11:39
Lisoshow can i mount my files of my system in the sesion of a live cd?11:39
jvaiaaaaac11:39
ricanelitei dont see it in /usr/bin11:40
enz0hanyone know of any install issues with the Edgy beta desktop CD?  I'm in it right now but the install to HDD app is hanging11:40
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ladydooranon32: mc is one of the earliest but most featureful. there're bunches of graphical mc wannabes, too11:40
Weberladydoor, command "passwd root" bash: You do not have permissions to see the password informations for root11:40
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anon32Weber, did you sudo?11:40
ladydooranon32: he's theoretically sudo -i'd11:40
Weberanon32, yes.11:40
jordanLisos, What type of partition is it, fat32, NTFS?11:40
pike_ricanelite: try doing a locate "locate vmware-uninstall.pl"11:40
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ladydoorWeber: a) what's your bash prompt say and b) what was the output of cat /etc/group|grep admin?11:41
ricaneliteon terminal? please forgive me im a linux newbie11:41
Lisosjordan they ae my ubuntu files11:41
anon32Lisos - mount -t (filesystem type) (device name) /mount11:41
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DemisMwhat do i use to view dvd's and divx files?11:41
[H] 3b0Ranyone?11:41
anon32!format11:41
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks11:41
patconnexionhello ...  is ATI RADEON MOBILITY 7500 enough to install XGL ?11:41
pike_ricanelite: yeah just type that in terminal11:41
jvaitotem11:41
anon32!restrictedformats11:41
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:41
anon32argh11:41
jordanLisos, Is Ubuntu the only OS are your computer?11:41
Weberladydoor, command "passwd root" bash: You do not have permissions to see the password informations for root11:41
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jvaii give up11:42
Lisosi dont know what are the filesystem and device name , they are in a ubntu sesion and my user is jx0 can u comlpete please , sorry but i am nebie , anon3211:42
proudtexanLisos: mount /dev/whichever_filesystem /mnt/whichever_mountpoint11:42
ladydoorWeber: no, what does your prompt say? i.e., what does the fixed text before you start typing say?11:42
pike_ricanelite: did you install the player through apt-get or use download the vmware installer?11:42
puffFlannel: Okay, oddly enough apt-get remove mozilla-firefox ran successfully, but firefox still runs and now runs correctly.11:42
ricaneliteokay typed it in and it just goes back to ricanelite@ubuntu:~$11:42
Weberladydoor, now Im confused.11:42
LaneHelp please, How would one make it so that only ssl connections were allowed in vsftpd, I didnt see anything in the config file, am I just missing it?11:42
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LoRei've read somewhere about an apt repository containing profiled libraries, does somebody know where it is?11:42
puffFlannel: But dist-upgrade is still failing on /var/cache/apt/archives/lvm2_2.02.02-1ubuntu1_i386.deb11:42
ricanelitewell im talking about VMware the Virtual PC app11:42
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anon32Lisos, how many partitions (drives) do you have, and what's your hard drive type?11:43
pike_ricanelite: yeah you want to uninstall it right?11:43
ricaneliteyeah11:43
lansingafter i install the unixodbc file it says dpkg: status database area is locked by another process wat do i do11:43
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ladydoorWeber: for example, mine says door@labyrinth:~/misc/latex$11:43
pike_ricanelite: how did you install?11:43
ricanelitewell i downloaded it from vmware.com11:43
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cbx33hey grahamldlw11:43
pike_ricanelite: the player?11:43
ricaneliteand extracted it and put in some commands in the terminal11:43
Lisos2 partition one to windows and one for ubuntu , i want mount my ubuntu files , hda1 is the hard drive and ext3 , anon3211:43
grahamldlwif i wanna install .tar.gz files or .run files how do i do it? i downloaded some games lol11:43
black_13!kernel11:44
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild11:44
Weberladydoor, /etc/group|grep admin says lpadmin:x:106:oem,nicolas admin:x:112:11:44
ladydoorgrahamldlw: tar xzf for tar.gz. i don't know about .run11:44
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anon32Lisos, sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 (empty directory path)11:44
cbx33grahamldlw, ahhh11:44
cbx33those gamse not available via apt-get?11:44
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LjLgrahamldlw: have you made sure those games are not in the repositories, to start with? if not, then 1) .tar.gz is an archive format, similar to .zip... so it just contains files. what you do with them depends on the files  2) for .bin, you can type ./filename.bin11:44
grahamldlwno i tried them and it wudent do it11:44
pulverhi, is it safe to remove usplash or will it mess up the boot process?11:44
Weberladydoor, ahh. nothing. Im in home dir, and not as root...11:44
LjLgrahamldlw: what games are those anyway?11:45
Lisosanon32 , so if i go to livecd sesion and i type sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 (empty directory path) is ready??11:45
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grahamldlwbtw i am a brand new user to linux/ubuntu so i dont have a clue what to do!11:45
ladydoorWeber: ok, this is a problem. you're not in the admin group, which means you don't have sudo rights. do you have an admin user account?11:45
jordanLisos, Type `parted` then `print` and paste the output to pastebin.11:45
fdsddo you guys know if its syslogd or klogd that gives the messages to tty1?11:45
anon32Lisos, yea... make sure you replace the parenthetical with an actual directory11:45
paul000:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)11:45
Weberladydoor ?11:45
cbx33grahamldlw, well....it all depends what you downloaded11:45
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paul0what is the right xorg driver for me11:45
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ladydoorWeber: i guess not. you need to boot into single-user mode to fix this.11:45
sladenpulver: just remove 'splash' from the kernel command line11:45
lansinghey avagant can u message me for a min i need a lil assistance11:45
anon32paul0, how should I know?11:45
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LjLgrahamldlw: answer this first, just to make sure there isn't an easier means -- what games are those?11:46
paul0anon32: i hope, that someone who know tell me11:46
sladenpaul0: you want i810, it would be automatically configured11:46
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nranyone know why ubuntu's firefox 1.5.0.7 would report javascript 1.4 instead of 1.5, or is this probably a problem with a website's browser check?11:46
Lisosanon32 thanks jordan u 211:46
Lisosi will try11:46
Lisosthanks11:46
paul0sladen: yeah, but isn't working11:46
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Weberladydoor, If I didnt knew better, I would say, that I am in single-user mode.11:46
pulversladen, but i want to install splashy which is in conflict with usplash11:46
anon32paul0, if I don't know your situation, how can I recommend files for you?11:46
sladenpaul0: "what" isn't work?11:46
paul0sladen: i can get my Syncmaster 3 monitor working11:46
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LjLWeber: if you were in single user mode, you'd be root, though11:46
grahamldlwfree col and ta3d i think it is for the .tar.gz/tar.nz2 and for the .run its ufoai11:46
sladenpaul0: right11:46
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ladydoorWeber: reboot and then select ``recovery-mode''...when you're there, do nano -w /etc/group and add your username to the group admin. then reboot into normal and you should be able to use sudo. you might should write down the gist of these instructions.11:47
fulat2khi folks, i've got 2 nic interfaces (eth0 and wlan0) on my pc.  even though i can successfully bind to my wifi network, dhclient simply refuses to get any DHCPOFFER from the router.  is there anything i missed out?  used both networkmanager and network config tools from gnome and kde.11:47
gthbis ntfs writing in edgy safe?11:47
proudtexancan anybody direct me to instructions for adding a special driver to ubuntu11:47
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sladenpaul0: and what monitor doesn't work?11:47
paul0sladen: i've used to make it work under xfree86's xf86cfg, but now i can't anymore11:47
LjLgthb: edgy itself is unsafe. it's a beta distro.11:47
sladenproudtexan: what "special driver" would you like to add?11:47
ladydoorWeber: it will be a fullscreen terminal, but those don't always have to be scary. it'll be fine if you do just that. and reboot is the command to reboot from the commandline11:47
Weberladydoor, im sitting on my secondary laptop, its on the other the problem is..11:47
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ladydoor!ntfs11:47
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse11:47
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proudtexanfor dell truemobile wlan card11:48
sladenpaul0: try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure --phigh xserver-xorg11:48
ladydoorWeber: ok, cool. in that case try that and once you save your install by doing this you can try setting the root password again.11:48
gthbLjL, I'm aware of that, I was more referring to what method does edgy use to write to ntfs11:48
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paul0sladen: may i send my Xorg log to you11:48
paul0sladen: i'll try11:48
sladenproudtexan: that's an Orinoco, it will work out of the box11:48
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THX-1138Xineram/Twinveiw - Please paste an xorg.conf for me.11:48
sladenpaul0: /topic11:48
anon32is there a way to disable file cacheing in gnomebaker? I don't have disk space to cache a DVD image11:48
proudtexani want to use it in rfmon mode for which i need to install a patched driver11:48
DemisMhow can I check if my gfx accel is working?11:48
jordanMouseemu makes my cursor no longer useable ( can't move it ), can someone help me troubleshoot it or tell me another way to set F12 to act as a right click.11:49
sladenpaul0: use the pastebin the topic11:49
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anon32DemisM, let's see... drag your IRC window over the screen11:49
sladenanon32: I'm not sure, have you tried Googling?11:49
anon32sladen, meh11:49
sladenanon32: eg.  gnomebaker no cache11:49
LjLgrahamldlw: for ta3d, you will need to compile.11:49
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ladydoorjordan: http://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison11:49
grahamldlwcan anyone help with how to install some .tar.bz2 files?11:49
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grahamldlwok well i dunno how to do that so that aint happening11:49
THX-1138aon32 - dd - will write from one device to the next. - it is a hassle though.11:49
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brueniggrahamldlw, what is the program?11:49
THX-1138sladen - nice tip11:50
sladengrahamldlw: tar jxvf foo.tar.bz2   or just double click on them.  What .tar.bz2 are you attempting to install?11:50
anon32THX-1138, what happens if I change the partition that the cache is on then?11:50
ladydoorgrahamldlw: first extract them with tar xzf. then cd to the directory and let me know if there's a file called configure (there should be)11:50
grahamldlwok dosent matter forget it im just gonna delete it, windows is easier11:50
LjL!compile > grahamldlw11:50
grahamldlwcheers anyway11:50
jordanladydoor, I would like to use Gnome.11:50
piratepenguincan ubuntu not handle ATI Radeon x850 video cards (on an amd 64 cpu if that matters)?11:50
ladydoorjordan: ah. no idea then.11:50
LjLgrahamldlw: have fun11:50
THX-1138anon32 - sladen had the answer for gnomebaker11:50
djuussits not easier...11:50
brueniggrahamldlw, lol ok. Bye11:50
Weberladydoor, sudo:x:27 is that the admin group ?11:50
djuussohhhh lets not start this again :(11:50
ladydoorgrahamldlw: errr...lol.11:50
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paul0sladen: sorry, but i don't know how to paste there since i'm using the text-mode11:50
anon32ok11:50
proudtexansladen: i'm trying to use the card in rfmon mode which i understand requires a patched driver11:51
fdsdHey guys, how do I have klogd and syslogd to not spit messages into tty1?11:51
anon32you know, "Google it for f***'s sake isn't a great answer11:51
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ladydoorWeber: it's the one that should say admin:x:112:11:51
grahamldlwwell of course u lot find it easy! u use it! im a student! hu's only ever used windows!11:51
paul0sladen: reconfiguring with -phigh didn't work11:51
ladydoor!u11:51
ubotuUnless you're Dutch, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..11:51
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bruenigvolunteers in here trying to help him install this package he wants and he refuses it11:51
grahamldlwhu only got ubuntu on here in the first place cuz i accidentlly deleted windows11:51
fdsdim offically making U a pronoun11:51
sladenpaul0: what "doesn't work"  What do you see on the screen11:51
ladydoorgrahamldlw: what're you trying to install? it's not that hard if you're patient11:51
aimazgrahamldlw, if you tell us what they program is we might be able to suggest an easier way11:51
Weberladydoor, done.11:52
grahamldlwta3d-v-0-2-1.tar.bz211:52
djuussgrahamldlw, your a student but you cant figure out something like compiling?11:52
THX-1138anon32 - man gnomebaker isn't a great answer either. - we only want encyclopedic knowledge. - we don't have it. - yet?11:52
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LjLgrahamldlw: ah, well, yes, i'm sure that using something helps making it easier to use it11:52
sladenpaul0: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log  and see what the last error message is related to11:52
paul0sladen: i'm getting the same problem, "Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration."11:52
grahamldlwa student as in a fresher at college now a uni student11:52
bruenigaccidentally deleted windows, hmmmm djuuss, thank about that last question...11:52
grahamldlwnot*11:52
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anon32THX-1138, ....11:52
ladydoorgrahamldlw: there's a pretty set way of doing things. either you install using synaptic/adept/apt-get/aptitude,  which is generally a one-step deal, or you install from source, which can be usually up to 3 or 4 steps.11:52
anon32manpages are confusing11:52
fdsdHey guys, how do I have klogd and syslogd to not spit messages into tty1?11:52
THX-1138anon32 - agreed.11:52
sladenpaul0: can you try   sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg11:53
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bruenigman pages aren't confusing, although I usually do command --help as that is faster11:53
cpk2reading through apt-get stuff though it looks like you can build using apt-get?11:53
aimazgrahamldlw, do you know how to open a terminal?11:53
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djuussgrahamldlw, heh. I'm inclined to say some very insulting stuff, well, impulse, but other people might call it insulting. I won't11:53
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LjLcpk2: you can. if there is a source package available11:53
djuussimpulsive*11:53
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anon32bruenig, let's see... man gnomebaker.... gnomebaker is dev, missing features.... see also gnome... end11:53
bruenigaimaz, point and click to open something. I'm not doing that. Where is my windows cd.11:53
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LjLcpk2: but then if there is a source package available, you can bet there is also the corresponding binary package11:53
jordangrahamldlw, What are you trying to install?11:54
brueniganon32, bad man pages are bad. But man pages aren't in themselves bad.11:54
aimazbruenig, heh11:54
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grahamldlwyes i can open a terminal and only very very basically understand the sudo apt-get install and apt-cache search thing11:54
sladencpk2: sudo apt-get build-dep foobar ; apt-get source -b foobar11:54
cpk2LjL: so its basically just for people with 64bit arch?11:54
anon32mm11:54
DemisMwhat xserver does ubuntu install by default?11:54
anon32foobar? it's a linux program?11:54
sladencpk2: but you shouldn't need to have to recompile things11:54
LjLcpk2: uh, no. it's basically because there has to be a sane way of building packages11:54
bruenigxorg11:54
sladenanon32: foobar is like 'x' in mathematics.  It's a definate indefinate, replace it with the program you actually want11:55
aimazgr33npho3nix, ok, so in the terminal use the cd command to change to the directory where you .bz2 file is11:55
Weberladydoor, thx. It works.11:55
aimazyour*11:55
anon32oh... damn it, there's also a media player called foobar11:55
aimazgrahamldlw, even ^11:55
LjLcpk2: i mean, the guys that give you the binary packages have built it *somehow*11:55
ladydoorWeber: cool beans...so you edited it, rebooted, and now you can sudo?11:55
WeberJep11:55
jordangrahamldlw, What are you trying to install?11:55
Weberyea11:55
grahamldlwcd command?11:55
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ladydoorWeber: great!11:55
sladenDemisM: Xorg contains many video driver, the appropriate one for your video hardware is used11:55
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brueniggrahamldlw, if you could give us a url of the package, I would be happy to download it and see what is necessary for you to install it11:56
puffOkay, now I'm in trouble... rebooted and now my wireless device has disappeared.11:56
piratepenguincan ubuntu not handle ATI Radeon x850 video cards (on an amd 64 cpu if that matters)?11:56
puffHm.11:56
aimazgrahamldlw, i suggest you read a primer on linux, it's not windows, you need to learn a few things11:56
grahamldlwta3d-v-0-2-1.tar.bz2 is what im tryin to install as this is only my second day using ubuntu or any other type of linux it makes it difficut to understand11:56
puff"SET failed on device eth1 ; No such device.11:56
ricanelitehow can I check what is my harddrive space?11:56
grahamldlwsee even the termonology is confusing11:56
lansinghow do i search for a program thats on my computer11:56
anon32!ati11:56
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:56
ladydoorlansing: for the binary or for all its files?11:56
sladenLjL: you can rebuild the package 'foobar' with   sudo apt-get build-dep foobar ; apt-get source -b foobar11:57
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LjLsladen: i know that11:57
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anon32apt-get remvoe oooo11:57
bruenigalright grahamldlw where is it at right now? the Desktop?11:57
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ricanelitehow can i check my harddrive to see what type of space i have remaining?11:57
grahamldlwyes11:57
jordan!ta3d11:57
ladydoorricanelite: df11:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ta3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:57
ladydoorricanelite: just kidding. df -h11:57
avagantwhat's df?11:58
avagant!df11:58
ubotuGraphical representations of where your disk-space is being used are: baobab (GNOME), filelight / kinfocenter (Kubuntu). On the terminal: df -h -T11:58
avagantAh.11:58
LjLavagant: a command that tells you how much space you've left on the drive.11:58
avagantO RLY11:58
aFxavagant : " df " it's command11:58
brueniggrahamldlw, ok, go to Applications>Accessories>terminal11:58
lansingwell i juust got both the java files i need but it keep comein up wit this error sudo dpkg -i sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-06-1_all.deb11:58
lansingdpkg: status database area is locked by another process11:58
ricanelitenice thank you so much!!11:58
avagantHey I'm doing pretty good!11:58
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ParisiHello11:59
avagantHurray for me!11:59
anon32um... I have a P4 with HT.... according to the wiki, I should use a 686 kernel... why did the install give me a 386 one?11:59
grahamldlwi already have it open11:59
brueniggrahamldlw, ok type and then press enter "cd Desktop" or copy and paste11:59
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black_13!aptitude11:59
ubotuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide11:59
kitcheanon32: so it works on every system by default but you can install a 686 by looking for it's package11:59
sladenlansing: sudo apt-get install java2-runtime11:59
IcemanV9hmm, is there a way I can see the list of what has been updated when i issued "sudo aptitude dist-update"?? something ain't right with volume control. if i remember it was libmusic something11:59
grahamldlwok dont worry about it forget it, cheers11:59
brueniglol12:00
anon32kitche, huh... will hyperthreading not work in 386? if it does, I have no reason to change12:00
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ladydoorIcemanV9: so you upgraded to edgy?12:00
bruenigwe are like 5 commands away from it being installed12:00
grahamldlwim not as patient as u guys by any stretch12:00
IcemanV9ladydoor: not yet .. still on dapper12:00
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brueniggrahamldlw, all you are going to have to do is copy and paste12:00
ladydoorgrahamldlw: well, not all installations work like that12:00
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aFxwhat bit is i686 ?12:01
lansingok done that this is wat i get12:01
kitcheanon32: nope it won't work 386 is for older machines but all 386 really means is it's optimazed for a i386 processor12:01
lansingUnable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?12:01
grahamldlwgrahamldlw@grahamldlw-desktop:~$ cd desktop12:01
grahamldlwbash: cd: desktop: No such file or directory12:01
sladengrahamldlw: cd ; tar jzxf ~/ta3d*tar.bz212:01
ladydoorgrahamldlw: for the most part, it just involves telling the package manager what to install and then suddenly it's installed.12:01
ladydoorgrahamldlw: it's capitalized12:01
anon32:-(12:01
sladengrahamldlw: cd ; tar jzxf ~/Desktop/ta3d*tar.bz212:01
dgrantworkhow do I set up a fully qualified domain name on my box, similar to this: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Setup_Your_FQDN12:01

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