[12:01] <holoton1> I am an experimental DJ at an FM radio station, and was looking for some good software that I could use to lay out the tracks for my show, do transitions between them, and play with a few effects here and there; Any suggestions?
[12:01] <paul0> here is the Second Life stdout: http://rafb.net/paste/results/94YHsx66.html
[12:01] <mwe> paul0: what driver is that?
[12:01] <paul0> mwe: i810
[12:02] <mwe> paul0: I know it's not perfect
[12:02] <TmWrk_Quil> holoton1: i've done what you are talking about and have some at home
[12:02] <mwe> paul0: pretty slow as well
[12:02] <paul0> mwe: Scorched 3D, and others run fine
[12:02] <holoton1> TmWrk_Quil: what would you reccomend for software?
[12:02] <pau> some one knows how to set up a 82801G (ICH7 family) high definition audio in ubuntu? capture funtion dosn't work
[12:02] <TmWrk_Quil> holoton1: it will allow you to manage all your tracks in databases
[12:02] <paul0> mwe: just SL doesn't start
[12:03] <TmWrk_Quil> holoton1: email me, i'll drop you a line when i get back to the house with the name of it, it's been about a year and a half
[12:03] <Warbo> please? I am, like, ON the computer which I should be installing Ubuntu on, I've tried 3 times now and my mate is beginning to think Linux isn't as good as I said it is
[12:03] <holoton1> TmWrk_Quil: Not so concerned about managing the tracks, what I'm looking for is software that will help me with transitions (fade in/out mixing, etc..) between tracks
[12:03] <mwe> paul0: it seems to me it's trying to use a feature that the driver does not support
[12:03] <pau> some one knows how to set up a 82801G (ICH7 family) high definition audio in ubuntu? capture funtion dosn't work
[12:03] <TmWrk_Quil> holoton1: yeah this does it
[12:03] <TmWrk_Quil> holoton1: and more
[12:03] <holoton1> TmWrk_Quil: What's the name?
[12:03] <Warbo> holoton1: Amarok can mix between tracks, but it usually screws up when I try to do it :(
[12:04] <TmWrk_Quil> holoton1: it works with icecast and shoutcast
[12:04] <paul0> mwe: SDL: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[12:04] <smax_> !edgy
[12:04] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[12:04] <paul0> mwe: i think this is the problem... but i can't figure out how to fix
[12:04] <holoton1> Warbo: Looking for something with more control, pitch adjustments and the such
[12:04] <smax_> !schedule
[12:04] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[12:04] <pau> some one knows how to set up a 82801G (ICH7 family) high definition audio in ubuntu? capture funtion dosn't work
[12:04] <Warbo> !xmms
[12:04] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[12:04] <pike__> Warbo: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php try this i think its a newer version than in ubuntu
[12:04] <mwe> paul0: you probably have to fix the driver. But that's a very hard task
[12:05] <smax_> I wanna enable 5.1mode on my  souncard. What I should to do?
[12:05] <muaddib> Has anyone heard the latest news on Hans Reiser http://tinyurl.com/mlx5f
[12:05] <Milenco> I can't seem to get GLX support for my Ati (9250) card while i did install the latest drivers (using apt-get). Same problem with both ati and radeon driver.
[12:05] <Milenco> Anyone any ideas?
[12:05] <pau> some one knows how to set up a 82801G (ICH7 family) high definition audio in ubuntu? capture funtion dosn't work
[12:05] <paul0> mwe: i think the problem is with SDL, because other programs run without problems
[12:05] <mwe> paul0: hmm
[12:06] <Milenco> pau: that works out-of-the-box here?
[12:06] <Milenco> At least the output. :P
[12:06] <Leo5> Can somebody recommend me a console application to manage/edit my partitions?
[12:06] <pau> it works with windows
[12:06] <gnomefreak> muaddib: if its not related to ubuntu support please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:06] <pike__> Leo5: cfdisk ?
[12:06] <Leo5> Thanks, I'll try that
[12:07] <mwe> paul0: SDL says it can't find a matching GLX visual. That would lead me to think it's a driver issue. I'm not 100% positive though
[12:07] <smax_> How to change soundcard mode from 2.0 to 5.1
[12:07] <pike__> Leo5: natually it doesnt resize only create and delete
[12:07] <Cosmo-san> manage/edit?  uh, use the cosole?
[12:07] <pike__> naturally*
[12:07] <Leo5> good enough
[12:07] <paul0> mwe: but the driver is working fine with other applications
[12:07] <SkyMountaineer> can i get some help with my sound card pls
[12:07] <mwe> paul0: maybe they don't use that particular feature
[12:08] <pau> some one knows how to set up a 82801G (ICH7 family) high definition audio in ubuntu? capture funtion dosn't work
[12:08] <hades__> !grub
[12:08] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:08] <smax_> How to change soundcard mode from 2.0 to 5.1
[12:08] <pau> milenco, it works the sound, but not the capture
[12:08] <smax_> !5.1
[12:08] <SkyMountaineer> pau
[12:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 5.1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:08] <SkyMountaineer> pau: i got the same card as wel
[12:09] <SkyMountaineer> can not get it to go
[12:09] <Warbo> Dammit, no CD Writer
[12:09] <pau> does it work?
[12:09] <SkyMountaineer> nope trying for help here
[12:09] <pau> jejeje
 what's wrong
[12:09] <pau> is the capture function
[12:09] <Milenco> Ahh pau I see..sorry cant help you with that :(
[12:10] <SkyMountaineer> smax: linux sees the card and alsa sees it but there is no sound
[12:10] <pau> where could i see for some information?
[12:10] <SkyMountaineer> i followed all the doco and no joy
[12:10] <SkyMountaineer> !soun d
[12:10] <SkyMountaineer> !sound
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soun d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:10] <pau> I've got sound
[12:11] <paul0> mwe: someone using i180 has run SL, http://forums.secondlife.com/showthread.php?p=1080478&highlight=i810#post1080478
[12:11] <SAS_Spidey01> I finally got ubuntu to boot
[12:11] <mwe> paul0: hmm
[12:12] <smax_> SkyMountaineer Mmm maybee you have 2 device. Do you have tv tuner. Maybee you should enable it in your player. What player what soundcard
[12:13] <SkyMountaineer> smax_: yea it see's 2 1 a sound card and another a modem
[12:13] <pau> some one knows how to set up a 82801G (ICH7 family) high definition audio in ubuntu? capture funtion dosn't work
[12:14] <djani> ok, got a pointer for reading on how to add a script to 6.10 startup
[12:14] <djani> ?
[12:14] <SkyMountaineer> smax_ it is a intel card ich7
[12:14] <SkyMountaineer> i am using sound juicer
[12:14] <WoolyGrrl> any help here for what appears to be a hardware issue that hangs ubuntu during initial boot/load ?
[12:14] <gnomefreak> djani: ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:14] <djani> gnomefreak, thanks
[12:14] <gnomefreak> djani: yw
[12:15] <smax_> SkyMountaineer juicer...never used is there any system sounds?
[12:16] <steben> hallo
[12:16] <mwe> paul0: do you have 'Load "glx"' in xorg.conf?
[12:16] <mwe> paul0: and 'Load "dri"' as well?
[12:17] <smax_> SkyMountaineer when you login sound is playing or not?
[12:17] <SkyMountaineer> smax_ no system sounds,
[12:17] <smax_> SkyMountaineer Try to change default sound device.
[12:18] <SkyMountaineer> have there is only 1 default device
[12:18] <SkyMountaineer> I have
[12:19] <pike__> SkyMountaineer: you can always cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp leave that terminal open and play with alsamixer in seperate terminal until it works
[12:19] <SkyMountaineer> i do a modinfo and it tell me that's it loaded a module
[12:19] <smax_> SkyMountaineer do you have bmp or xmms? run in than chose alsa and there try to change devices which are avalible there( you shold hit ok and restart track everytime)
[12:19] <paul0> mwe: yes
[12:20] <method|> how can i get k3b to allow me to burn a cd without sudoing?
[12:20] <mwe> SkyMountaineer: please turn down the speaker volume bofore doing that if you want to avoid hurting your ears ;)
[12:21] <mwe> paul0: hmm. I don't think I can help you then. I can look at your xorg.conf if you pastebin it though if you want me to
[12:21] <paul0> mwe: i think it's software problem
[12:21] <smax_> mwe good advice )
[12:21] <paul0> mwe: http://osdl.sourceforge.net/OSDL/OSDL-0.3/src/doc/web/main/documentation/rendering/SDL-openGL.html#troubleshooting
[12:22] <lmosher> How do I switch to my S-video out on my laptop?
[12:22] <Stormx2> Firefox 2 RC 2: Can I just download/compile it? I've had a look in the help section on FirefoxNewVersion but its for 1.5
[12:22] <lmosher> the function button on the laptop goes to the CRT, but is there a module for the display setup like in windows?
[12:23] <mwe> paul0: so you think the program is broken? maybe so ...
[12:23] <variant> anyone know how to enable gdm to autologin by editing a configfile? i am wanting to do this over ssh
[12:23] <jshamash66> If I mount a FAT partition on my Ubuntu machine, and share it over the network, can windows users access my files (and modify them)?
[12:23] <paul0> mwe: yes
[12:23] <paul0> mwe: i'll send an email to them, to check this
[12:23] <variant> jshamash66: if you share it with samba
[12:23] <paul0> mwe: thanks for the help, and time
[12:23] <jshamash66> variant: ok, thanks
[12:24] <mwe> paul0: yw
[12:24] <SkyMountaineer> !xmms
[12:24] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[12:24] <finalbeta> Doesn't ubuntu support firewire? When I plug my external HD through USB, it auto mounts. When I plug it through firewire, nothing happens. Tested this on two PC's.  Do I have to do something to enable it? I only have USB1 so I really would need to have firewire support.
[12:24] <pike__> variant: sudo vi /etc/gdm/gdm.conf    set AutomatiLoginEnable=true  i think
[12:25] <variant> pike__: will it ask for a password?
[12:25] <WoolyGrrl> any help here for what appears to be a hardware issue that hangs ubuntu during initial boot/load ?
[12:25] <pike__> variant: there is also an AutomaticLogin=   so i think a username there  i dont know never did it :)
[12:25] <pike__> variant: shouldnt
[12:25] <smax_> SkyMountaineer you can try thesame  in your player but I don't know work it there or not
[12:26] <jshamash66> is there a way of mounting a FAT partition so that you don't need administrative rights to modify its files?
[12:26] <KJ-ro> hello it's me again... everithing is ok.. but i am getting messages (kernel like) ... in the console window... what to do ? where to stop this ?
[12:26] <KJ-ro> these messages are from iptables ...
[12:26] <whyso> hi newbie q here: if i use the livecd to transfer my data to an external hd i will still be able to use it when i do the real install right
[12:27] <mwe> jshamash66: yes
[12:27] <KJ-ro> these are the loging options of the iptables: logops="--log-leve=alert -m limit --limit 1/second --limit-burst=3"
[12:27] <mwe> !fat > jshamash66
[12:27] <Jaak> is there nobody able to help me with my half working scanner?
[12:27] <jshamash66> thanks
[12:28] <variant> I am having a problem with the nvidia driver on a ge force 2mx 400.. x refuses to start (failed to load nvidia module) is there something i need to do?
[12:28] <iku> hey guys. has anybody installed the ubuntu server version lately? i get an error message when installing the basic system and i cant continue to install it. any ideas what might be wrong? maybe a failure in the download?
[12:28] <mwe> variant: is the card supposed to be supported by the driver?
[12:29] <Stormx2> Folks, whats a simple way to find the biggest files recusively in a directory?
[12:30] <variant> mwe: as far as i am aware the mx 400 is still supported
[12:30] <variant> Stormx2: use ls and sort
[12:30] <Stormx2> variant: Righto
[12:30] <pike__> Stormx2: i dont know if its what you want but i do 'du -ach /directory' and then you can grep for stuff
[12:31] <variant> mwe: i apt-get install nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common and changed the driver to nv but it still fails to load nvidia module
[12:31] <variant> i apt-get install nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common and changed the driver to nv but it still fails to load nvidia module, can anyone help?
[12:31] <Stormx2> *sigh* i have no idea how to use sort
[12:31] <mwe> Stormx2: find -exec ls -lS {} \;|less
[12:31] <Stormx2> gimme a min, ima google it
[12:31] <variant> Stormx2: man sort
[12:32] <variant> Stormx2: its easy
[12:32] <bbrazil> Stormx2: google largest20
[12:32] <Stormx2> Eek, thanks for all the help everyone
[12:32] <Stormx2> :)
[12:32] <donie> lo all
[12:32] <iku> any ideas guys? :(
[12:32] <donie> can i have somebody's time for a minute with an ibook problem
[12:33] <Stormx2> mwe: How do I escape from that?
[12:33] <stefg> variant: might it be that you need the nvidia- _legacy_ -packages? Geforce 2 is quite historic
[12:33] <donie> i have an ibook g3 which is not picking up the airport card installed on the cardbus slot under the keyboard
[12:33] <donie> lspci does not show the card either
[12:34] <mwe> Stormx2: ctrl-c but ls -lSRh |less is probably better
[12:34] <Sp4rKY> hi
[12:34] <mwe> Stormx2: err. q
[12:34] <Unity> A problem occur while loading a library or decoder: wmvdmod.dll,    Kaffeine
[12:34] <Jaak> Why is my xsane talking about scanning grey frame?
[12:34] <mwe> Stormx2: type q
[12:34] <mwe> Stormx2: to quit less
[12:34] <variant> stefg: it lists geforce2 pro and others but specificaly not geforce2mx
[12:34] <Stormx2> mwe: Thanks :)
[12:35] <Stormx2> mwe: Alright. Its strange because I remember my home partition being bigger than 2.5 gig, still, maybe I screwed up somewhere
[12:35] <mwe> Stormx2: what's strange again?
[12:36] <Jaak> Why is my xsane talking about scanning grey frame??
[12:36] <Stormx2> mwe: A little popup came up saying its 95% full, my /home
[12:36] <stefg> variant: everything before GF4 is definitely legacy
[12:36] <mwe> Stormx2: df -h?
[12:37] <donie> guys, any tools in ubntu that would help me try to solve a pci problem?
[12:37] <atroWork> anybody know where the Xsetup script is in ubuntu?
[12:37] <Stormx2> mwe: I cleared some stuff off just now: /dev/hdb6             5.4G  4.5G  656M  88% /home
[12:37] <donie> of not detectign a card?
[12:37] <XenThraL> Hi, I'm having troubles configuring which sound device to use in KDE -- its quite frustrating, tried just about everything
[12:37] <bionoid> donie: What kind of PCI problem?
[12:37] <Max_-> some software needs libatk1.0-0 to run... I loaded libatk1.0-dev ... now it still says I need libatk1.0-1 .. so I searched.. found the deb package.. but I cant Install it, it says I already have newer version... even if I apt-get remove the 1.0-dev one!!.. how can I do???
[12:37] <donie> apple ibook
[12:37] <donie> not detectign airport card
[12:37] <bionoid> donie: lspci
[12:37] <donie> not there
[12:37] <mwe> Stormx2: hmm. some of it is probably reserved so 88% full might trigger that warning
[12:38] <donie> i mean it doesnt see the airport
[12:38] <bionoid> donie: But the airport works fine if you boot macos?
[12:38] <donie> dont know
[12:38] <donie> dont have macos on it
[12:38] <WoolyGrrl> any way to force verbose during "loading hardware drivers" to find out specifically what is failing during initial load/boot?
[12:38] <atroWork> Max_-, you can specify a version to install with apt-get, it will revert if necessary. I don't remember the syntax off hand though, check the man page on it or aptitude
[12:38] <Stormx2> mwe: Well I deleted a lot of .wav's, it was on 95% I think
[12:38] <mwe> ok
[12:39] <david_> Hello--how do I start beryl from a resume.d script?  "sudo -H -b -u beryl-manager --display :0.0" doesn't seem to work.  Basically, how do I run a command as if I was in my gnome session from outside of my gnome session?
[12:39] <stefg> variant: your song goes like ' sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-[arch]  nvidia-glx-legacy' and then changing the nv back to nvidia in /etc/xorg.conf
[12:39] <donie> i put ethernet card that is known to work in ibook and ti doesnt see taht either
[12:40] <Stormx2> mwe: it may be the recycle bin actually, XD
[12:40] <bionoid> donie: Hm well I don't know the first thing about macs, so can't help you, sorry :\
[12:40] <donie> which software actually powers up the cardbus?
[12:40] <mwe> Stormx2: du -h --max-depth=1|less might help you figure what dir is taking up most space at least
[12:40] <Max_-> atroWork, okay, thanks I'll look at this
[12:40] <stefg> !info yenta-socket
[12:40] <ubotu> Package yenta-socket does not exist in any distro I know
[12:40] <bionoid> donie: But if it doesn't even show up in lspci, then I'd take that as a sign that something is wrong on hardware level - be it the card, the motherboard or simply a bios setting
[12:41] <donie> bios settings on ibook?
[12:41] <mwe> Stormx2: maybe but I thought it was only allowed to use a certain percentage of the space
[12:41] <bionoid> the latter, of course, not being a hardware problem ;p
[12:41] <donie> i reset open firmware but that was no help
[12:41] <donie> not sure if you can disable the cardbus slot via openfirmware though
[12:41] <bionoid> donie: Again I don't know the first thing about macs, but I suppose it has a bios of some sort - whether or not it is configurable, I don't know..
[12:42] <XenThraL> how do I select which soundcard the system should use ? (KDE)
[12:42] <donie> k, thanks
[12:42] <Stormx2> mwe: Cleared the recycle bin: /dev/hdb6             5.4G  1.9G  3.3G  37% /home
[12:42] <donie> any good place to search for ibook probs
[12:42] <donie> having trouble finding anyone with the same problem
[12:42] <stefg> donie: forget about bios... you have efi... different concept
[12:42] <mwe> Stormx2: 
[12:42] <keith> guys is there any way i can allow user to do there own email forwarding i.e setup fwding to there hotmail accounts. via some sort of web interface
[12:42] <donie> is an ibook g3
[12:42] <none> no efi
[12:42] <Stormx2> mwe: Thanks so much for the help, really appreciate it.
[12:42] <donie> circa 2000
[12:42] <none> open firmware
[12:43] <donie> keith? From what service?
[12:44] <donie> gmail?
[12:44] <donie> yahoo?
[12:44] <keith> donie: sendmail
[12:44] <donie> oh!
[12:44] <keith> donie: i mean from my linux box
[12:45] <keith> I wouldnt ask how to configure gmail in #ubuntu :p
[12:45] <donie> keith, have never used sendmail in that way
[12:45] <donie> sorry
[12:45] <fuffalo> im thinking of getting a via6421 chipset SATA controller card, anyone know if this will work fine in ubuntu?
[12:46] <WoolyGrrl> is there a way to force verboseness during "loading hardware drivers" so that i can find out what specific piece of hardware is failing during boot?  i've stripped my system and something is still puking during the initial booloader
[12:46] <donie> anyone want to buy an ibook with ubuntu on it? airport not working. everything else ok incl ethernet :)
[12:46] <Max_-> Dependency is not satisfiable: libatk1.0-0         but when I try to apt-get install libatk1.0-0         it says   libatk1.0-0 is already the newest version.  argh???
[12:46] <_dellfan_> keith: how about a .forward file in users home directory
[12:47] <_dellfan_> keith: it only needs to heva 1 line (the e-mail to wich the user is forwarding)
[12:47] <donie> keith, http://www.unix.org.ua/orelly/networking/tcpip/ch10_03.htm
[12:47] <david_> how do I run a program (beryl) in a Gnome session from a daemon script (resume.d)?
[12:48] <variant> donie: ibooks suck
[12:48] <donie> is that not  good? lol
[12:48] <variant> donie: which one is it? g5?
[12:48] <donie> g3
[12:48] <variant> donie: throw it in a skip
[12:48] <donie> feck off :)
[12:48] <donie> it's a great yokke
[12:48] <variant> the only good thing about it is that it looks kinda nice.. use it as a place mat? :)
[12:48] <keith> _dellfan_:  yeah just found out about .forward files :D
[12:49] <donie> grand for irc and browsing
[12:49] <keith> DelPede: would this just forward all mail to that address?
[12:49] <sidny4> if you don anything else with it, it will crash though :P
[12:49] <macsim> ahah
[12:49] <variant> make it a file server and hide it somwhere.. they are kinda quite
[12:49] <variant> WoolyGrrl: wtf you doing?
[12:49] <_dellfan_> keith: yes, it forwards all mail
[12:49] <nixternal> please stop with CTCP pings
[12:50] <WoolyGrrl> checking to see how far fucking lagged i am, thanks
[12:50] <WoolyGrrl> since i'm not lagged i suppose either 1) nobody knows the answer ot my question or 2) i'm being blown off
[12:50] <keith> _dellfan_: nice, guess i need to create some thing which creates a .forward file for the users then.
[12:50] <sidny4> I'm sorry, were you talking wollygrrl?
[12:50] <WoolyGrrl> patient i am, but i was hoping for at least a "don't know" :P
[12:50] <_dellfan_> keith: i use it on few linux boxes and it works for me
[12:50] <variant> WoolyGrrl: or 3) your impatient and annoying
[12:50] <sidny4> yay for variant's answer
[12:50] <variant> WoolyGrrl: I dont even know your question..
[12:51] <sidny4> no noe does
[12:51] <sidny4> one*
[12:51] <nullus> !kernel
[12:51] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:51] <sidny4> so, WoolyGrrl, what seems to be your problem
[12:51] <keith> _dellfan_: _dellfan_ would it litterly just be a file in the users homedir, with the email address in ? i.e .forward keith@gmail.com
[12:52] <iku_> hey guys. has anybody installed the ubuntu server version lately? i get an error message when installing the basic system and i cant continue to install it. any ideas what might be wrong? maybe a failure in the download?
[12:52] <nullus> !arch
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about arch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <WoolyGrrl> possibly, but i first asked my question at 1714, i've rephrased it twice since then and more than half an hour later...
[12:52] <WoolyGrrl> so yeah, i'm impatient
[12:52] <nullus> !amd
[12:52] <nullus> !k7
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <_dellfan_> keith: yes, it is a file with only an e-mail to wich to forward
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about k7 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <keith> Nice.
[12:52] <keith> thanks
[12:52] <SkyMountaineer> smax_ ok i have installed bmp the output plugin is alsa 0.9.7 and i have cossen the 1st card and still no sound
[12:52] <crippy-boy> WoolyGrrl, There are alot of people in here alot needing help, just ask again.
[12:52] <sidny4> WoolyGrrl, that's good an all but please stop complaining and try your question again
[12:52] <donie> i need help with ibook
[12:53] <donie> anyone got one?
[12:53] <stefg> donie: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21235.html
[12:53] <rasputnik> anyone got iscsi working with Breezy?
[12:53] <JDStone> how do I make my USB external HDD mount when I plug it in?
[12:53] <WoolyGrrl> nah, i wouldn't want to bother anybody
[12:53] <JDStone> on Ubuntu server
[12:53] <_dellfan_> keith: if you are looking for something that will help people create this file try usermin http://www.usermin.com
[12:53] <rasputnik> donie: I have one, but not running linux
[12:53] <_dellfan_> keith: but it is quite big project
[12:53] <donie> stefg:  thanks, but mine is just an airport, not extreme
[12:53] <XenThraL> eh, I need help if anyone is willing
[12:53] <Abst> !ask
[12:53] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:53] <sidny4> WoolyGrrl, if you would like hlep, simply ask your questions and they will get answered sooner or later
[12:54] <XenThraL> "Hi, I'm having troubles configuring which sound device to use in KDE -- its quite frustrating, tried just about everything"
[12:54] <crippy-boy> sidny4, She left
[12:54] <XenThraL> not only the sound device orders keep changing
[12:54] <XenThraL> but the 'default' one also changes
[12:54] <sidny4> some people's children
[12:54] <XenThraL> tried to do a fix for it I found on the forums, but it didn't 'take' apparently
[12:54] <sidny4> hmm
[12:54] <keith> _dellfan_: im not installing that :p i dont want to get rooted!
[12:54] <donie> are your file permissions ok in your account?
[12:55] <donie> maybe it cant write changes? XenThraL
[12:55] <XenThraL> Uh?
[12:55] <XenThraL> no I went as root
[12:55] <XenThraL> if root can't change it then, well, I'm pretty sure I'm screwed
[12:55] <donie> k, you're screwed :)
[12:56] <XenThraL> lol
[12:56] <_dellfan_> keith: ok, It just has a lot of features, my users like it very muach
[12:56] <XenThraL> I think the fix didn't work rather then me writing it
[12:56] <jshamash66> I am currently accessing my Ubuntu computers from other computers by typing its IP address in the address bar. Is there a way to do this using its computer name?
[12:56] <keith> _dellfan_: such as ?
[12:56] <keith> _dellfan_: are there any skin to make it look nice :D
[12:56] <rasputnik> jshamash66: if it has a dns entry, yes
[12:56] <variant> XenThraL: you can setup a udev rule that will tell it exactly where to be :)
[12:56] <donie> jshamash66: put an entry in your hsots file with teh ip first followed by the name
[12:56] <XenThraL> tell it what?
[12:57] <variant> XenThraL: you are having the soundcard issue right?
[12:57] <XenThraL> yes
[12:57] <rasputnik> donie: but he'll have to do that for every client
[12:57] <_dellfan_> keith: the user can change his/her password, read mail, configure fetchmail, crontab, set web protected directories ...
[12:57] <donie> use dns so
[12:57] <variant> XenThraL: you have more than one soundcard?
[12:57] <XenThraL> I have 2 sound cards and their order keeps changing
[12:57] <_dellfan_> keith: it has skins
[12:57] <jshamash66> rasputnik: where is the hosts file located?
[12:57] <donie> what platform? jshamash66
[12:57] <XenThraL> when that happens, it makes the other one the default output one
[12:57] <keith> _dellfan_: I might check it out
[12:57] <XenThraL> and that sucks for several reasons
[12:57] <XenThraL> mainly - I don't get any sound
[12:58] <jshamash66> donie: WinXP
[12:58] <rasputnik> jshamash66: /etc/hosts on linux, but I wouldn' recoomend doing it that way
[12:58] <donie> c:/windows/system32/drivers/etc i think
[12:59] <kromel> XenThraL, I believe there is a way you can control the order.  let me see if I can find the link to the proper info.
[12:59] <jshamash66> rasputnik: how do I give it a DNS entry? is that like setting up a static IP?
[01:00] <donie> 10.1.2.3 myothercoumputer
[01:00] <XenThraL> kromel, would appreciate that thanks ;)
[01:00] <donie> jshamash66: ^^^
[01:00] <donie> jshamash66: u need a DNS server on one of your machines
[01:00] <donie> if  you want all the machines to use it
[01:00] <donie> be easiest
[01:01] <anon32> this should go to #wine, but how does saving and opening files work in WINE? does WINE redirect Windows-based file names to unix ones?
[01:01] <rasputnik> jshamash66: if you want everyone to be able to get to your box, it needs a name everyone knows - that's what dns is for. Is this a machine on DSL or something?
[01:01] <whyso> what causes firefox to leak so much
[01:01] <sidny4> anybody here ever hear of navini?
[01:01] <kromel> XenThral, here is the link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114551    please read the entire thread carefully.
[01:01] <XenThraL> thanks kromel
[01:02] <rasputnik> whyso: wait til you try 2.0 - it's awful
[01:02] <kromel> XenThral, your looking for a post made from FarEast
[01:02] <XenThraL> spotted it
[01:02] <XenThraL> "please try my solution" one right?
[01:03] <jshamash66> rasputnik: we have an internal network that's all windows-based, we only use DNS for internet, which we rely on our IP provider to give us. (i think)
[01:03] <kromel> XenThraL, going to find a better one, I was quick to jump.  Give me a few moments.
[01:04] <viator> wine uses somthing similar to explorer for its file manager if i recallif you have a server most time the server provides the dns
[01:04] <XenThraL> ok
[01:04] <Knifa> While trying to install the latest updates it stops at "0% [Waiting for headers] "
[01:04] <Knifa> is the server just busy?
[01:04] <viator> whoops
[01:04] <viator> mixed two posts
[01:04] <rasputnik> jshamash66: so do you want the name to work everywhere, or just your network?
[01:05] <jshamash66> rasputnik: just the network
[01:05] <variant> XenThraL: sorry aboutthat.. ssh dissconeccted me
[01:05] <rasputnik> jshamash66: right, then don't bother with dns. do the hostfile thing donie suggested
[01:05] <variant> XenThraL: you can setup a udev rule that will always assign the same deivce to the same name
[01:05] <XenThraL> hum
[01:05] <viator> funny how network manager and network monitor show two different levels of connectivity
[01:05] <rasputnik> Knifa: yes (uk at least is very slow atm)
[01:05] <XenThraL> how do I go about doing that?
[01:06] <wickedly_cool> hey how would i go about recompiling an installation of ubuntu kernal to include a nvidia driver
[01:06] <wickedly_cool> ?
[01:06] <viator> 15  and 58% respectively
[01:06] <wickedly_cool> hey how would i go about recompiling an installation of ubuntu kernal to include a nvidia driver
[01:06] <viator> anyone ever notice that
[01:06] <jshamash66> rasputnik: but won't I lose the connection once the dynamic IP is changed?
[01:06] <Warbo> anyone know the package that lets file roller open .debs?
[01:06] <variant> XenThraL: take a look at /etc/udev/rules.d/20-names.rules
[01:06] <wickedly_cool> hey how would i go about recompiling an installation of ubuntu kernal to include a nvidia driver
[01:06] <viator> nvidia driver?
[01:06] <viator> for a graphics card?
[01:06] <wickedly_cool> fx 5200 128 m ram
[01:06] <Warbo> wickedly_cool: Just use it as a module
[01:07] <wickedly_cool> yeah
[01:07] <wickedly_cool> ues what as a module?
[01:07] <viator> yea use a kernel module
[01:07] <Warbo> wickedly_cool: is this for yourself, or some kind of live CD?
[01:07] <variant> wickedly_cool: apt-get install nvidia-driver-common nvidia-glx
[01:07] <pitt0071> is ubuntu more stable than fedora guys?!
[01:07] <rasputnik> jshamash66: the ips on your network don't change. the ip the rest of the world uses to speak to your router probably does, but that's on a different network
[01:07] <kromel> XenThral, may I send you a private message?
[01:07] <rasputnik> Warbo: just untar them
[01:07] <variant> pitt0071: yes, in my experiance anyway. besides.. fedora sucks on many different levels :)
[01:07] <XenThraL> sure
[01:08] <variant> XenThraL: you see the different rules there?
[01:08] <XenThraL> I just opened it
[01:08] <XenThraL> looking for sound
[01:08] <wickedly_cool> i am about to make an install to get off windows... but i need my video card to work and it didnt last time i tried ubuntu actually i managed to get a kernel panic out of it
[01:08] <Warbo> rasputnik: They are just tarballs? file roller says it can't handle them (it can on my ubuntu system, but this is a live CD). Please don't tell me that file roller goes by extensions?
[01:08] <variant> XenThraL: its not far in
[01:08] <pitt0071> variant,  good,  two freezes on fedora when setting up..
[01:08] <pschulz01_> !pptp
[01:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pptp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:09] <rasputnik> viator: install nvidia-glx
[01:09] <Knifa> rasputnik: do you think it'll work eventually? D:
[01:09] <rasputnik> viator: then run nvidia-xconfig
[01:09] <Warbo> tar doesn't work :(
[01:09] <Warbo> (on .deb I mean)
[01:09] <XenThraL> variant, kromel found a forum link detailing exactly what I'm looking to do
[01:09] <wickedly_cool> i think windows and linux are about the same on stability but linux is much mor organized... and windows sucks with all the bugs/glitches/ and pet peeves....
[01:09] <rasputnik> Knifa: I just kill it and try again usually
[01:09] <XenThraL> thanks though I really appreciate the help
[01:09] <XenThraL> from both :)
[01:10] <variant> XenThraL: cool, best do that way then :)
[01:10] <jshamash66> rasputnik: ok, thanks for your help. So I should just add an entry to /etc/hosts with my IP, followed by the computer name?
[01:10] <Knifa> rasputnik: tried that a few times but it's still doing it
[01:10] <Knifa> :(
[01:10] <Knifa> oh hurray
[01:10] <Knifa> it's going
[01:10] <rasputnik> Warbo: I must be thinking of something else :)
[01:10] <boricua> any reocmendations on a micro atx MB for ubuntu
[01:10] <rasputnik> !iscsi
[01:10] <wickedly_cool> windows will add network adapters even though it's the same card but in a diffrent pci slot.... buggy
[01:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iscsi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:11] <wickedly_cool> my network says network adapter #5 but its the same one as 4,3,2, and 1
[01:11] <wickedly_cool> just doesnt show up
[01:11] <rasputnik> jshamash66: no :) you need to do that on each windows machine
[01:11] <Warbo> I made a package which depends on realplay, but now I want to get rid of the dependency so I need to open it up and change control.tar.gz
[01:11] <cdavis> how do I tell if ubuntu is detecting/utilizing my dual core laptop?
[01:12] <cipher> Hey
[01:12] <cipher> anyone use XFCE???
[01:12] <rasputnik> Warbo: isn't that what 'apt-get build' does?
[01:12] <rasputnik> cdavis: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:12] <Warbo> rasputnik: I was using dpkg -b, but probably
[01:13] <rasputnik> Warbo: I don't know apt that well (it case it wasn't bloody obvious)
[01:13] <cdavis> rasputnik, thanks, its workign with two :)
[01:13] <wickedly_cool> should i go with dapper or the other one for nvidia drivers?
[01:13] <Knifa> install the beta ones
[01:13] <juanca> hello everybody
[01:13] <donie_> how can you retrieve the batter status of laptop from command line?
[01:13] <cdavis> I want to setup some aliases, like alias ll='ls -l --color=tty' what file do I put that in
[01:14] <rasputnik> anyone done iSCSI with ubuntu ?
[01:14] <Knifa> cdavis: .bashrc i think?
[01:14] <Knifa> ~/.bashrc
[01:14] <donie_> pity iscsi doesnt work on mac os
[01:14] <truiu> donie_: cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state
[01:14] <dougsko> donie_: take a look in /proc
[01:14] <donie_> ta truiu
[01:14] <wrabbit^> I can view DVDs and listen to mp3s but I can't view mp4 video files.   Can somebody pleaes help me out?
[01:14] <wickedly_cool> dapper or edgy?
[01:14] <cdavis> Knifa, is there a place I can put it in so it uses that for root and normal users?
[01:14] <rasputnik> donie_: doesn't work on ubuntu either by the look of it :)
[01:14] <Knifa> cdavis: ah you mean like
[01:14] <Knifa> for everything
[01:14] <Knifa> everyone rather
[01:14] <Knifa> not sure for everyone
[01:15] <cdavis> k, thanks
[01:15] <shwag> any ideas why these processes are not going away on their own ?  http://pastie.caboo.se/16987
[01:15] <shodanjr_gr> guys, i was wondeirng, if i do an image of a drive using DD, does the size of the image equal the TOTAL size of the drive? Or just the used space?
[01:15] <Warbo> shodanjr_gr: total
[01:15] <dougsko> shodanjr_gr: the space used
[01:15] <juanca> can somebody help me to share printer in a home network.  I don't seem to be able to get it to work.  My laptop works on Windows and my PC is on Ubuntu 6.10.  Printer is connected to PC.
[01:15] <shodanjr_gr> hm...
[01:15] <Warbo> shodanjr_gr: but you can use "sparse files" to make the free space neglibible
[01:15] <czer323> Is there a way to tell the updater that you don't want to upgrade a particular package?  And to ignore it on subsequent updates?
[01:15] <shodanjr_gr> can you explain a bit more Warbo?
[01:16] <dougsko> czer323: yeah, i forget exactly how you do it, but you can lock certain packages
[01:17] <Warbo> shodanjr_gr: every bit of the drive will be copied, every 0 and every 1. For the unallocated parts/unused parts then if they are, say, all 0 then instead of storing thousands of zeroes, Linux filesystems can remember that there should be thousands of zeroes, but not actually put them there because it would be a waste of space. That is called a "sparse" file
[01:17] <czer323> dougsko, I just tried that.  it didn't work.  I'm trying to uncheck the automatically installed option.  I'll tell you the result.
[01:17] <wrabbit^> Anybody know how to play mp4 videos in ubuntu?
[01:17] <dougsko> czer323: ok cool
[01:17] <shodanjr_gr> aha
[01:17] <shodanjr_gr> is there a parameter i should use for the command? i wana do an image of my c: drive where windows is installed
[01:18] <rasputnik> ok, forget the iscsi bit - anyone do custom kernels much?
[01:18] <dougsko> wrabbit^: i dont know what youre trying to play them with, but try vlc, that program literally plays _everything_
[01:18] <wrabbit^> I'll install that now dougsko, thanks
[01:19] <dougsko> wrabbit^: yup :)
[01:19] <rasputnik> wondering if this looked familiar (building a module) http://pastie.caboo.se/16988
[01:19] <esave> ello..this is the first time i have used ubuntu with the front end gnoome...i get a messagt 40 updates are ready to injstall.....starting with bind9 and so on..are these safe to install?e tha
[01:20] <rasputnik> esave: yes
[01:20] <bruenig> esave, yes
[01:20] <esave> sweet...i have always used debian...ubuntu rocks
[01:20] <esave> any advice on how i should extract   .exe file contents?
[01:20] <esave> i need the driver out of an exe for ndiswrapper
[01:21] <Ademan> !svideo
[01:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about svideo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:21] <Ademan> how can i set up my xorg.conf to output through svideo?
[01:22] <_dellfan_> !tvout
[01:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tvout - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:22] <_dellfan_> !tv-out
[01:22] <dougsko> Ademan: lol, good luck, ive been trying that for a while. youre best bet is to google around for example xorg.conf's
[01:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv-out - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:23] <jolt> I got a Nvidia problem... GLXInfo doesnt reconize my nvidia card.. but yet the drivers installed
[01:23] <Ademan> dougsko: you want me to let you know if i can get it working?
[01:23] <Geoffrey2> lesse, do I understand correctly that you can download an updated Ubuntu ISO, 6.06.1, that has a lot of the released patches already installed?
[01:23] <dougsko> Ademan: that would be wonderful :)
[01:24] <LjL> Ademan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV has info for setting tv out on nvidia cards
[01:24] <LjL> !msg the bot
[01:24] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[01:25] <LjL> Ademan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition also
[01:29] <Spaceraverlinux> this is odd... im getting very fluctuating speeds via apt-get... half the world must be updating their system
[01:29] <amicrawle> where do i hook up my  wintv card in the back on my sound balster ?
[01:29] <Spaceraverlinux> line in amicrawle
[01:30] <amicrawle> is that the blue or black  port
[01:30] <XenThraL> variant, eh, the link I tried didn't really help, could you help me set up the udev rule ?
[01:30] <amicrawle> becuse the green is my sound out for my speakers
[01:31] <cafuego> line is is normally blue
[01:31] <tkooda> anyone here use the 'socklog' package?  -I think something is deleting my "/var/run/socklog-*" service dirs on reboot??
[01:31] <cafuego> green is out, mic is red
[01:31] <Spaceraverlinux> should read line in or have a small symbol that looks something like this ((()))
[01:31] <amicrawle> I need my hand held to get my wintvcard to work with my sound blaster 512 card  and one will help me ?
[01:32] <Dreamglider> how do i get dvd and divx to play in ubuntu
[01:32] <LjL> !dvd
[01:32] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:33] <Spaceraverlinux> aya... i have a 8mbit line now... and atm i only am downloading with 10kB/s
[01:33] <sjbrown> anyone know how i change the tone of my system bell under ubuntu?
[01:33] <amicrawle> i have a blue and a black port open
[01:33] <newpZ> doesnt anyone know if the GE EasyCam web camera is supported?
[01:33] <amicrawle> they both have the same (((0)))
[01:34] <sidny4> what are you talking about amicrawle?
[01:34] <Spaceraverlinux> amicrawle, the blue should do it... the black one should be surround
[01:34] <amicrawle> ok i hear no sound
[01:34] <Spaceraverlinux> depends what you set the soundcard to do in the controls...
[01:34] <amicrawle> i have line in and our on my wintv card
[01:35] <amicrawle> it is a brooktree
[01:35] <Spaceraverlinux> amicrawle, use line out from the tv card to the line in on the soundblaster card
[01:35] <avagant> Alright guys, serious question.
[01:36] <amicrawle> i did
[01:36] <avagant> I finally think I have my alsa/sound problem fixed.
[01:36] <amicrawle> all i have is capture  in my stetting  in kmix
[01:36] <sidny4> sweet, I'm tired of those sarcastic questions
[01:36] <Spaceraverlinux> hm...
[01:36] <Spaceraverlinux> lol sidny4
[01:37] <amicrawle> do i need a diffrent mixer
[01:37] <avagant> However, my issue is...a. in order to further optimize my sound should I do the .asoundrc thing?
[01:37] <avagant> B. Do I have to load each and every module so I can "mix" sounds between oss and esd and alsa?
[01:38] <avagant> C. Is there a way that when I log in or start up Ubuntu I can just make Alsa the default player?
[01:38] <digeratess> Can anyone tell me what are best practices for maintaining accessibility of files that need to be shared for multiple users? I'm (trying to be) a Windows convert, but I'm having difficulty understanding how to approximate the way you can assign ownership of a windows folder to a group and everyone in that group always has access to all the files. Thanks.
[01:38] <JosefK> digeratess: create a group for the users, and make sure to chmod the path +s (sticky) before people start saving files to it
[01:39] <avagant> !aoss
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aoss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:39] <avagant> ok then.
[01:39] <Samuli^> !alsa-oss
[01:39] <ubotu> alsa-oss: ALSA wrapper for OSS applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10-1 (dapper), package size 48 kB, installed size 216 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 alpha amd64 arm armeb hppa m32r m68k mips mipsel powerpc ppc64 s390 s390x sh3 sh3eb sh4 sh4eb sparc)
[01:39] <Samuli^> is that what you wanted?
[01:39] <avagant> So I do have to load that as a module or does it just happen?
[01:39] <avagant> I'm confused.
[01:39] <digeratess> thanks, JosefK!
[01:40] <carlfk_lap> ati mobility radon x700 on a laptop - how do I activate? the external vga port?  (fn-f8 ain't doing it)
[01:40] <avagant> I've got sound working, more than one thing at once, kill all esd yada yada.
[01:40] <avagant> I'm just a little unclear if I have to add some lines to something somewhere (which I tried the other day and it actually made my sound worse)
[01:40] <avagant> Or should I just leave it, and be happy I have sound again.
[01:41] <patconnexion> hello some one knows how to make video capture with vlc ?
[01:41] <carlfk_lap> patconnexion: is that the vnc client that makes a... .mov?
[01:41] <Epidemik> what would be the advantage of installing KDE as well as gnome?
[01:41] <Samuli^> avangat, I'd be just happy it works, but as far as I know, you just need to install alsa-oss with apt-get and it
[01:41] <Samuli^> 'just works'
[01:42] <Spaceraverlinux> Epidemik, more choices and maybe more confusion
[01:42] <avagant> That's what I did.
[01:42] <avagant> So it just works?
[01:42] <dougsko> Epidemik: none
[01:42] <Samuli^> avagant, yeah :)
[01:42] <avagant> See I've read all about this ".asoundrc" thing and don't know if I should do that or not.
[01:42] <Epidemik> so if i dont need it i shouldnt mess around with it?
[01:42] <avagant> Because right now my sound works flawlessly.
[01:42] <Samuli^> don't do anything then.
[01:42] <patconnexion> vlc
[01:42] <patconnexion> sorry
[01:42] <sidny4> precicesly Epidemik
[01:42] <Samuli^> if it's not broken don't fix it :)
[01:43] <avagant> But it's so tempting!
[01:43] <avagant> Heh
[01:43] <Spaceraverlinux> if it aint broken dont fix it avagant !!
[01:43] <Samuli^> lol
[01:43] <Epidemik> okay thanks for the help
[01:43] <Epidemik> no point fixing something thats working
[01:43] <Epidemik> ull just break it for real
[01:43] <patconnexion> vlc not vnc
[01:43] <amicrawle> i got alsa now what
[01:43] <avagant> I just don't know if I should do anything or not. I've had terribly awful luck with sound.
[01:43] <Spaceraverlinux> Samuli^, you beat me to it
[01:43] <sidny4> ain't it the truth
[01:43] <Epidemik> do any of you guys have dmix installed?
[01:43] <Epidemik> !dmix
[01:43] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[01:43] <avagant> I'm working on so many reinstalls now my head is spinning.
[01:44] <avagant> Is that something you download, or is it something that's just suppose to be there, that dmix?
[01:44] <avagant> Because apt-get install dmix turns up with nothing.
[01:44] <Epidemik> umm, i think it lets you have 2 audio sources play at once
[01:44] <Epidemik> i think... like teamspeak and a game (which i need for tournaments n such)
[01:44] <avagant> Yah so I gathered.
[01:45] <sidny4> anybody know why in cedega the alsa sound test fails?
[01:45] <avagant> it says it could not find dmix.
[01:45] <sidny4> sound works fine and everything
[01:45] <avagant> OR dmixer.
[01:46] <avagant> neither of those give me any answers on apt-get
[01:46] <[bash] > hi all, I need some help with the following:
[01:46] <shuan> who uses ubuntu lts?
[01:47] <Samuli^> avagant, try apt-cache search dmix and see if anything comes up
[01:47] <[bash] > I have a machine running ubuntu and another windows xp and the windows xp has internet and is connected to ubunto through 2 network cards, how can I make internet work on ubuntu
[01:47] <avagant> nope.
[01:47] <avagant> that's what i just did, samuli.
[01:47] <Samuli^> k.
[01:47] <avagant> !dsnoop
[01:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dsnoop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:47] <sykes^> How come XMMS can play MP3 but not amaroK?
[01:48] <shuan> sykes get w32 codecs
[01:48] <LjL> !mp3
[01:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:48] <Spaceraverlinux> sykes^, did you install all codecs??
[01:48] <LjL> shuan: no need for w32codecs for mp3.
[01:48] <sykes^> Only ones I found is to convert mp3 to ogg, but I dont want that
[01:48] <shuan> true
[01:48] <dougsko> avagant: if youre trying to get more than one source playing at once, try a different driver, like OSS
[01:48] <shuan> need summin else
[01:48] <LjL> sykes^, read the first link above. there's an "mp3" section. do that.
[01:48] <avagant> no alsa works fine.
[01:48] <dougsko> avagant: oh ok
[01:48] <avagant> Right now I'm watching Bleach, listening to music and gaim sounds are playing.
[01:48] <patconnexion> some one knows how to configure vlc to make video captures?
[01:48] <crimsun> avagant: what are you confused about?
[01:49] <shuan> my ubuntu is asking if i want to upgrade to lts, should i do that?
[01:49] <Spaceraverlinux> shuan, you run dapper??
[01:49] <avagant> I'm just confused about the whole alsa thing, it works now just fine but I mean is there something else I have to do?
[01:49] <sykes^> LjL: I did, but it only say about converting, and I dont want to do that
[01:49] <crimsun> avagant: what's the output from ``cat /proc/asound/modules''
[01:49] <Spaceraverlinux> avagant, no need to do it if it works
[01:50] <shuan> spaceraverlinux: i dont even know what dapper is, im still exploring linux ubuntu
[01:50] <crimsun> avagant: if stuff is already working, then don't touch it.
[01:50] <LjL> sykes^: not true. just read it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-1340337f2ca1d0c54900935468515ba7630fcc59 - it specifically talks about Kubuntu and Amarok
[01:50] <avagant> it says 0 snd_via82xx
[01:50] <tkooda> does anyone here use the 'socklog' package??
[01:50] <crimsun> avagant: it's dmixed and dsnooped by default.
[01:50] <ruzgar> !harddisk
[01:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about harddisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:50] <ruzgar> how can I list my disks
[01:50] <ruzgar> in console
[01:50] <ruzgar> ?
[01:50] <crimsun> avagant: those are both pcm plugins that are distributed as part of libasound2. You'd never notice.
[01:50] <avagant> So I don't have to load up those pcm_blah blah blah modules?
[01:51] <crimsun> no, it happens transparently.
[01:51] <johnficca> dose anyone here have ibm t40 with wireless problems
[01:51] <dougsko> patconnexion: http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=11077&
[01:51] <sykes^> LjL: Cant see anything on the link you game me, only works on the older version, I use dapper)
[01:51] <sykes^> gave
[01:51] <LjL> sykes^: see the section entitled "Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake)" ?
[01:51] <ruzgar> !harddisc
[01:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about harddisc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:51] <ruzgar> !hard disc
[01:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hard disc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:52] <avagant> Ok, and is there a way to make Alsa the default player instead of when I start up it loading esd?
[01:52] <avagant> So I don't have to keep hitting "killall esd"
[01:52] <[bash] > anyone knows how I can resolve my problem?
[01:52] <avagant> Like right now it's up.
[01:53] <ruzgar> how can I list my discs ?
[01:53] <sykes^> LjL: I cant understand crap of that
[01:53] <LjL> sykes^: ok, just type "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs". but you really should learn to read and understand basic documentation, you won't get very far otherwise, i believe :(
[01:53] <johnficca> ok I guess not I'll check back latter
[01:54] <digeratess> bash, try this: http://linuxweblog.com/xp-internet-connection-sharingd
[01:54] <dn4> i'm a few fries short of a happy meal
[01:54] <avagant> I definitley had to search very cafefully to find that myself.
[01:54] <sykes^> LjL: I know, but I looked through, and the only thing I saw was how to install it in some player called K3B and juK
[01:54] <LjL> sykes^: well, the first thing it says *is* to install libxine-extracodecs though
[01:54] <Parisi> Hello
[01:54] <avagant> Actually it's funny too, the sync works perfect in flash.
[01:55] <lumgwada> Is is possible to alter the gnome ftp folder settings to stop file replace confirmation? also can anyone suggest other settings to make the remote folder be less hangy on a slowish connection?
[01:55] <sykes^> LjL: Installed it but doesnt work, hmm
[01:55] <LjL> sykes^: the installation succeded, though? are you actually on Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[01:55] <avagant> But is it possible to stop esd from showing up at all?
[01:56] <sykes^> LjL: Ubuntu
[01:56] <LjL> sykes^: and did the installation succeed? i say this because you need to have the Multiverse repository enabled to obtain that package
[01:56] <avagant> Sync with flash is awesome.
[01:57] <sykes^> LjL: Got this message (In Swedish): Paketet libxine-extracodecs har ingen installationskandidat   - means like "Package libxine-extracodes does not have a isntallationcandidate"
[01:57] <avagant> You've got to uncomment somethings first.
[01:57] <LjL> sykes^: ok, you need to enable multiverse
[01:57] <sykes^> LjL: How do I do that?
[01:57] <LjL> !tell sykes^ about multiverse
[01:57] <avagant> Go to System > Adminstration > Software properities
[01:57] <avagant> Your list of repositories will come up.
[01:57] <LjL> sykes^: this should tell you. ask if you don't understand, but please try making it by yourself first
[01:58] <sykes^> LjL: Will do
[01:58] <avagant> On every one that says "Source" click edit, and add on the ones that aren't checked.
[01:58] <avagant> It too me a while to figure that out myself.
[01:58] <avagant> "took"
[01:58] <avagant> Time to find me some more video game ost.
[01:59] <sykes^> LjL: It say multiverse aint free
[02:00] <dougsko> sykes^: its free as in beer, jus not free as in freedom
[02:00] <Woosta> What package has /usr/src/linux/include in it? I thought it would have been linux-headers ..
[02:00] <sykes^> dougsko: Um, ok
[02:01] <dougsko> sykes^: www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html
[02:01] <dougsko> sykes^: or en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License
[02:01] <sykes^> dougsko: Well, I can't find any download link
[02:02] <dougsko> sykes^: im not sure what that means
[02:02] <LjL> sykes^: multiverse contains some non-free packages, but that doesn't mean you have to pay for them
[02:02] <sykes^> LjL: Either way I can't find it, nor on google
[02:02] <LjL> sykes^: it either means that they're freeware but *not* under an open source license, or that they use dangerously patent encumbered stuff (like mp3)
[02:02] <LjL> sykes^: can't find what?
[02:03] <sykes^> LjL: Multiverse
[02:03] <LjL> sykes^: ok, nevermind. type "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" in order to open your repository list for editing
[02:04] <myk3> hello
[02:04] <LjL> sykes^: then find all the lines that begin with "deb", and after the various "main" and "restricted", add "universe multiverse"
[02:04] <amx109> anyone been having probelms with irc server lag using xchat in 6.10 beta?
[02:04] <myk3> im trying to connect to a wpa wifi network
[02:04] <allawi> Hi guys .... can anyone get a forum by clicking on this link http://allawi.no-ip.org/ ... its not an add .. i have a problem
[02:04] <sykes^> LjL: Hah, the list is empty, it was text there before
[02:04] <allawi> ad. ""
[02:04] <LjL> sykes^: empty?
[02:04] <myk3> can someone help me?
[02:05] <sykes^> LjL: Nvm, typed wrong ;)
[02:05] <avagant> I don't like using xchat, I prefer Konversation.
[02:05] <crippy-boy> allawi, php isnt set up properly, or so it seems
[02:05] <LjL> ah
[02:05] <dougsko> myk3: what chipset is your wifi card?
[02:05] <pitt0071> avagant, tried irssi? :)
[02:05] <myk3> i duno
[02:05] <avagant> Even if I'm running gnome, conversation makes me happy.
[02:05] <myk3> it is a airlink 101
[02:05] <allawi> crippy-boy, finally .. some help
[02:05] <dougsko> myk3: well only certains ones work with it
[02:05] <avagant> pitt0071: Is that the command line one?
[02:05] <sykes^> LjL: LIke "deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main universe multiverse" ?
[02:05] <LjL> sykes^: make sure you add universe and multiverse to *all* lines that don't have it
[02:05] <dougsko> myk3: whats your wireless interface called?
[02:05] <Spaceraverlinux> allawi, i get a file download... some phtml stuff
[02:05] <Geoffrey2> is there anyone in here who can tell me how to get clamav up and running?
[02:06] <myk3> wlan0
[02:06] <pitt0071> avagant, yes
[02:06] <allawi> crippy-boy, my quistion is how to set it up
[02:06] <avagant> Hmm.
[02:06] <LjL> sykes^: yeah (though i find strange that there isn't a "restricted" on that line too...?)
[02:06] <Woosta> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]  /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-26
[02:06] <Woosta> The path "/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-26" is an existing directory, but it does not contain a "linux" subdirectory as expected.
[02:06] <Woosta> ^^ Anyone help me?
[02:06] <sykes^> LjL: There are, I just thought that I should remove it?
[02:06] <allawi> Spaceraverlinux, thanx alot .. i know that but i wanna know how to set the php cfg file
[02:06] <LjL> sykes^: did i tell you to? :P
[02:06] <avagant> Well I tried bitchx and nirc (whatever it's called) and it didn't appease my irc'ing ways.
[02:06] <crippy-boy> allawi, There are alot of tutorials/articles online, Best bet is looking at articles about setting up a LAMP server.
[02:06] <sykes^> LjL: Yeah? ^^
[02:06] <dougsko> myk3: are you using ndiswrapper
[02:07] <LjL> sykes^: uh no... i said      after the various "main" and "restricted", add "universe multiverse"
[02:07] <avagant> I wonder if there's anything else I should get....should I get those alsaplayer plugins for esd and ect?
[02:07] <myk3> no
[02:07] <myk3> i cna run
[02:07] <crippy-boy> allawi, I cant really help much because i dont have all that much experience with apache/php.
[02:07] <allawi> crippy-boy, I did it by using the help on wiki.ubuntu.com ... but i cant find how to set it up
[02:07] <myk3> iwlist wlan0 scan
[02:07] <myk3> and see my network
[02:07] <Knifa> rawr!
[02:08] <sykes^> LjL: I know, I was joking :P
[02:08] <sykes^> LjL: Added that now
[02:08] <allawi> crippy-boy, thanx alot for your help anyway .... aftera all, you tried
[02:08] <Woosta> NM .. found it
[02:08] <LjL> sykes^: ok :P when you're finished, save and exit using Ctrl+X
[02:08] <avagant> But anyways SHOULD I set up that .asoundrc file?
[02:08] <avagant> I've got alsa working just fine, but I want to make sure..
[02:08] <crippy-boy> allawi, Im not too sure then, Just check the mods you made to httpd.conf
[02:08] <sykes^> Aight
[02:08] <myk3> the chipset is Zydas
[02:08] <shodanjr_gr> Warbo are you there mate?
[02:08] <shodanjr_gr> apparently not :P
[02:09] <LjL> sykes^: then type "sudo apt-get update", and then try again installing libxine-extracodecs
[02:09] <allawi> crippy-boy, in which dir. ??
[02:09] <crippy-boy> allawi, It looks as though the php pages arent getting fed to the interpreter, so the server is just chucking the php sources at ya.
[02:09] <amicrawle> what is a good dvr app for ubnutu
[02:09] <dougsko> myk3: please preface your replies with my nick so i can see them :)
[02:09] <amicrawle> i know that beos has a very good one
[02:09] <shodanjr_gr> Can someone give me the full syntaxt of the DD command in order to make a "compressed" image of my c: partition onto my d: partition while in Ubuntu?
[02:09] <crippy-boy> allawi, Did you have to edit a config file?
[02:09] <myk3> dougsko: sorry the chipset id Zydas
[02:09] <Ademan> I GOT MY SVIDEO OUT WORKING
[02:09] <myk3> dougsko: is Zydas
[02:10] <allawi> crippy-boy, i did change some ips .. thats all
[02:10] <avagant> I got my audio working period!
[02:10] <avagant> Hurray for us!
[02:10] <avagant> Guys I'm not too thrilled with gaim unfortunetly.
[02:10] <LjL> amicrawle: well,  i can see an app in the repos that's actually called "dvr"
[02:10] <efrancolaporte> hey i was wondering if somebody could tell me if theres an application i could easilly install to resize my NTFS partition and enlarge my Ext3 one
[02:10] <stylus> which development tools do I need to get from apt-get to help me compile stuff?
[02:10] <LjL> efrancolaporte: GPartEd should do that, i think. and you have it already installed.
[02:10] <Ademan> efrancolaporte: GParted
[02:10] <sykes^> LjL: Weird, still doesnt work
[02:10] <allawi> crippy-boy, /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[02:11] <amicrawle> with gui ?
[02:11] <Ademan> efrancolaporte: use the GParted LiveCD though
[02:11] <LjL> sykes^: what does it say? (if the error is long, paste to the pastebin -- and don't bother translating, i can read the swedish)
[02:11] <efrancolaporte> yeah its not in the terminal command line eh
[02:11] <stylus> anyone have a clue? I just need stuff like gcc etc.
[02:11] <efrancolaporte> i have to reboot using Ubuntu's CD eh...
[02:11] <sykes^> LjL: Oh ok
[02:11] <LjL> !b-e > stylus
[02:11] <dougsko> myk3: oh, you might need to install the wpa Supplicant
[02:11] <crippy-boy> allawi, yep
[02:12] <sykes^> !pastebin
[02:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:12] <efrancolaporte> as long as it doesnt mess my current Ubuntu OS it's all good i still have my live CD
[02:12] <dougsko> myk3: but still only some drivers support it
[02:12] <efrancolaporte> thanks
[02:12] <myk3> dougsko: i allready did install that
[02:12] <sykes^> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26220/
[02:12] <allawi> does reinstall php will solve anything ??
[02:13] <shodanjr_gr> Can someone give me the full syntaxt of the DD command in order to make a "compressed" image of my c: partition onto my d: partition while in Ubuntu? (so that the image does not included empty space)
[02:13] <LjL> sykes^: well, first, open your /etc/apt/sources.list again. you've typed "univere" instead of "universe" somewhere
[02:13] <sykes^> LjL: Bah
[02:13] <allawi> crippy-boy, will reinstalling pho solve anything ???
[02:13] <allawi> crippy-boy,  php
[02:13] <dougsko> myk3: is this a pci card?
[02:13] <LjL> sykes^: but, besides that, it seems that the package was actually installed, i think
[02:13] <myk3> dougsko: no usb card
[02:13] <myk3> dougsko: well usb dongle
[02:14] <tortoise_> wow rhythmbox is very cpu intensive, worse than amarok!
[02:14] <crippy-boy> allawi, Possibly but i doubt it, im pretty sure its something to do with the apache config, You might be best reading up a little, I really dont have much experience with apache beyond serving static pages and such
[02:14] <crippy-boy> AmaroK rocks :P
[02:15] <allawi> crippy-boy,  thanx alot ... I'm out of here
[02:15] <tortoise_> gonna try banshee
[02:15] <letarte> Hello, Can I get some help?
[02:15] <orbin> tortoise_: try listen and exaile too
[02:15] <sykes^> LjL: Gah, still doesnt play
[02:16] <MaKaTiGuY> need some help guys
[02:16] <fluvvell> avagant, what do you not like about gaim?
[02:16] <letarte> How do I use Synaptic Package Manager :S
[02:16] <LjL> sykes^: have you closed and reopened amarok after installing the new package? (note that you must close it from the system tray -- closing the window alone isn't enough)
[02:16] <Ademan> i heard banshee is pretty good but i dunno
[02:16] <jrib> ubotu: tell letarte about synaptic
[02:16] <MrTilly> letarte: what is confusing you about synaptic?
[02:16] <crippy-boy> Whats wrong with amarok?
[02:16] <LjL> sykes^: also, i'm using Kubuntu, so perhaps there might be something i'm missing about Amarok in Ubuntu...
[02:16] <sykes^> LjL: Wow I'm stupid
[02:16] <letarte> How do I use Synaptic Package Manager :S
[02:16] <Ademan> fluvvell: i use it, but it has very iffy direct connection support... as far as i know its the best AIM client out there right now (for linux) though
[02:17] <sykes^> LjL: Works now (forgot it in the tray) thanks :)
[02:17] <LjL> !synaptic > letarte
[02:17] <letarte> lol ok
[02:17] <letarte> Well im tryin to get Wine to work but I dont know how?
[02:17] <Ademan> LjL: do you remember who it was that was having trouble with SVIDEO besides me? i got mine working
[02:17] <LjL> sykes^: cool ;)  now, by the way, have a look in your Synaptic... you'll see you'll have "a few" more package available than before
[02:17] <MrTilly> !synaptic > mrtilly
[02:17] <Ademan> letarte: what program are you wanting to use it with?
[02:17] <jrib> Ademan: dougsko
[02:17] <LjL> ademan: dougsko
[02:17] <fluvvell> Ademan, yeah I use it quite a lot.  File sends and receives seem ok, but maybe voice and video additions to complement msn would help?
[02:17] <sykes^> LjL: Aight
[02:17] <letarte> Starcraft
[02:17] <letarte> Maybe Steam with its Games
[02:18] <letarte> like DoD and CS
[02:18] <crippy-boy> Mercury messenger for voice and vid support.
[02:18] <Ademan> fluvvell: from what i've heard theres a new version of gaim thats very good, but i'm not willing to install from source
[02:18] <dougsko> myk3: http://sourceforge.net/search/?forum_id=326770&type_of_search=forums&group_id=94356&words=wpa
[02:18] <LjL> sorry jrib, was typing with window scrolled up :)
[02:18] <dougsko> Ademan: nice job
[02:18] <sykes^> Oh yeah, how come the sound sucks in amarok and not XMMS?
[02:18] <Ademan> dougsko: if you're interested i could paste my xorg.conf
[02:18] <dougsko> Ademan: could i see a paste of your xorg?
[02:18] <Ademan> hehe
[02:18] <Ademan> sure thing
[02:18] <fluvvell> Ademan, yeah thems the breaks when you want something to fit in with your distro overall eh? ;-)
[02:18] <myk3> dougsko: i have a 1211 driver
[02:19] <letarte> Ademan: can you help me?
[02:19] <TigerWolf> Is there a way to reset all settings for alsa and oss as ive screwed them up and have no sound atm
[02:19] <Ademan> letarted: so you've installed wine?
[02:19] <fluvvell> Ademan, I've used it previously with mandrake a few years ago, and still wished I could use the more up-to date copies.  But at least there is a settling down time and debugging that happens this way.
[02:19] <LjL> sykes^: hmm... i think i've seen that happen. i don't really know, but perhaps you should go into Amarok's xine configuration (Settings / Configure Amarok / Xine), and select "esd" (or failing that, "alsa") as the output device
[02:19] <jordan> Can somebody help me with remapping F12 to be a right click?
[02:19] <sykes^> Or no, the sounds sucks in both XMMS and amarok :D
[02:20] <LjL> sykes^: ah then perhaps you simply have the gain set too high in the mixer
[02:20] <myk3> dougsko: how do i associate with a mac?
[02:20] <dougsko> myk3: im not sure about that driver, that forum i linked to will be more help than i could be
[02:20] <dougsko> myk3: no idea
[02:21] <sykes^> LjL: The what?
[02:21] <Geoffrey2> can anyone help me get clamav up and running?
[02:21] <LjL> stylus: the gain... some soundcards have another setting, besides the master volume, which controls the loudness -- and may get sound out distorted if it's set to high
[02:21] <letarte> Ademan: check your pm
[02:22] <Ademan> ok
[02:22] <sykes^> LjL: The music sounds like its played on a speak someone have cut with a knife
[02:22] <shodanjr_gr> guys im wondering
[02:22] <sykes^> LjL: Like all rosty and stuff
[02:22] <Ademan> letarted: i don't see a PM
[02:22] <shodanjr_gr> im installing ubuntu
[02:22] <LjL> stylus: doesn't necessarily has to be called "gain" though in the mixer
[02:22] <TigerWolf> Is there a way to reset all settings for alsa and oss as ive screwed them up and have no sound atm
[02:22] <letarte> hmmm
[02:22] <LjL> stylus: does XMMS still do that even if you close down amarok?
[02:22] <Ademan> dougsko: sorry my normal paste site is down, gonna use the ubuntu one
[02:22] <dougsko> Ademan: ok cool
[02:22] <shodanjr_gr> and i am at the partitioner screen. I want to have the partitioner use the 11 gigs of unpartitioned space on my drive. I assume i have to do the partitions manual. How should i set them up?
[02:22] <LjL> sykes^, the two messages i addressed to stylus were for you. sorry stylus
[02:22] <letarte> Ademan: I just told you my whole problem in a PM
[02:23] <LjL> stylus: the three messages, actually
[02:23] <LjL> argh
[02:23] <LjL> sykes^: you
[02:23] <sykes^> LjL: Think I fixed it, lowered the PCM some
[02:23] <Ademan> letarte: didn't get to me then, sorry, join #ademan
[02:23] <letarte> k
[02:24] <LjL> sykes^: well, then it probably was something akin to what i was thinking. perhaps see if you can find a third slider (besides master and PCM) which somehow controls volume
[02:24] <Ademan> dougsko: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26221/    i can show you the important lines if you'd like
[02:24] <sykes^> LjL: Nah it's ok, the sound is "perfect" now :) Thanks for everything
[02:24] <LjL> you're welcome
[02:25] <dougsko> Ademan: i think i can figure it out, but if i have a Q, ill ask. thanks :)
[02:25] <jordan> How can I map a key to be eqivilent to pressing the right mouse button ( I am on a mac and need a way to right click )?
[02:26] <viator> get a mouse with more buttons
[02:26] <Ademan> dougsko: sure :-)  just fyi the Devices MUST have Screen X  specified (and it must be a number NOT a string) 0 and 1 reffer to the order they occur in the xorg.conf   0 first 1 second and so on  (NOTE: this only applies to single card -> multiple output scenarios)
[02:26] <shodanjr_gr> Can anyone help with my partitioning woes?
[02:26] <sykes^> Is there any free cd/dvd-burning program for linux btw?
[02:27] <dougsko> Ademan: sweet. so when you want to watch tv, you just plug in the svideo and restart X?
[02:27] <jordan> viator, It's a laptop and that isn't very convienient.
[02:27] <viator> i see
[02:27] <Ademan> dougsko: OH, hahaha i thought you wanted to output your computer screen to your tv...
[02:27] <sykes^> !burning
[02:27] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[02:28] <dougsko> Ademan: i do
[02:28] <viator> maybe system>prefrences>keyboard
[02:28] <Ademan> oh alright, when you said "watch tv" i thought you meant like, watch cable or something
[02:28] <dougsko> Ademan: nah, just like watch a movie off your box on the tv
[02:28] <Ademan> but yeah, i actualyl don't know, i may not evne have to restart X as long as that stuff is in the xorg.conf
[02:28] <Ademan> oh, yep
[02:29] <dougsko> werd
[02:29] <dougsko> 002. #
[02:29] <dougsko> 003. # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
[02:29] <dougsko> 004. # values from the debconf database.
[02:29] <dougsko> 005. #
[02:29] <dougsko> 006. # Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page.
[02:29] <dougsko> 007. # (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
[02:29] <dougsko> 008. #
[02:29] <dougsko> 009. # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
[02:29] <finalbeta> !paste
[02:29] <dougsko> 010. # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
[02:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:29] <dougsko> 011. # package.
[02:29] <Ademan> dougNOOOOOOOOOOOOO don't paste in the channel!!
[02:29] <dougsko> 012. #
[02:29] <dougsko> 013. # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
[02:29] <btdown> beat me to it
[02:29] <dougsko> 014. # again, run the following command:
[02:29] <dougsko> 015. #   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[02:29] <dougsko> 016.
[02:30] <AntiSpamBot> Please don't flood #ubuntu, Use pastebin (http://pastebin.ca)
[02:31] <montgoej> hey, can someone help me with a VMWare-player issue?
[02:31] <MaKaTiGuY^> how can i mount my other partition drive?
[02:31] <montgoej> I can't remove it
[02:31] <letarte> I have a problem
[02:31] <letarte> I did thuis
[02:32] <letarte> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26222/
[02:32] <letarte> everyone take a look
[02:32] <letarte> tell me whats wrong
[02:32] <whyameye> The window decorations for compiz have disappeared. How might I troubleshoot this?
[02:32] <jordan> whyameye, You might find better luck @ #ubuntu-XGL
[02:33] <FearBSD> i have no optical drive here. how can i install ubuntu? (i'm on win)
[02:34] <jordan> FearBSD, DO you have a 1 gig flash drive?
[02:34] <FearBSD> yes
[02:34] <lostinc> Hi I installed Ubuntu from the LTS 6.06 CD onto a laptop. This laptop uses a D-Link PCMCIA card for etho conn. When I was in Live mode it had no issues going to the net. When it rebooted into the harddrive version I lost the etho conn
[02:34] <FearBSD> i carry it right now on my neck
[02:34] <lostinc> Any ideas?
[02:35] <FearBSD> jordan: but i don't know wether this mainboard here supports usb boot or not!
[02:35] <jordan> FearBSD, You can install from that, I don't know off hand how but I'll search for a tutorial.
[02:35] <FearBSD> jordan: thanks
[02:36] <jordan> FearBSD, You could also install it onto a hard drive from a computer with an opticle drive then swap the drive.
[02:37] <FearBSD> jordan: this is not possible atm. i think the board supports it. Ground Zero:
[02:37] <FearBSD> I have a kt6 delta main board (3 years old) and it suports booting from usb. I know that most bo
[02:37] <FearBSD> jordan: found this on google
[02:37] <FearBSD> you found the guide?
[02:38] <host`> what do you guys think is the best all around window manager? in terms of stability, speed and options
[02:38] <letarte> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26222/    what did i do wrong here
[02:38] <jordan> FearBSD, Not yet, The basics I believe are to copy the contents of the liveCD to the thumb drive, then use syslinux to make it bootable.
[02:38] <TigerWolf> What do i do if my /proc/asound directory is missing and how do i get it back?
[02:39] <letarte> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26222/    what did i do wrong here
[02:39] <host`> excuse me, best all around "desktop environment"
[02:40] <FearBSD> jordan: is this possible from within a windows system?
[02:40] <host`> letarte, something else has that dir locked
[02:40] <jordan> FearBSD, Yes.
[02:40] <letarte> host`: how do i find out?
[02:40] <host`> close anything else that could be using that dir
[02:40] <letarte> Ok
[02:40] <letarte> would XChat use it>?
[02:41] <TigerWolf> What do i do if my /proc/asound directory is missing and how do i get it back?
[02:41] <fr33mind> When I'm full screen with terminal client, how to switch to my ubuntu desktop instead of the terminal client?
[02:41] <dougsko> host`: ive been using fluxbox for years and think its the best, but everyone has their fav
[02:41] <host`> close synaptic or any other package manager
[02:41] <O2> Hello, everyone
[02:42] <letarte> host`: OMG THANKS YOU
[02:42] <host`> no prob
[02:43] <host`> letarte, if you slow down and look at the error messages, a lot of time you'll figure out what you have to do to fix the problem even if your a linux noob like me
[02:43] <host`> I saw that one a few days ago myself
[02:43] <host`> something similar at least
[02:43] <letarte> host`: its just im tryin to install wine
[02:44] <letarte> and im not getting it to work
[02:44] <DarkrhaveN> good evening
[02:44] <DarkrhaveN> anyone awake ?
[02:45] <host`> DarkrhaveN, hello
[02:45] <O2> I wonder... in the system-monitor, the user-ram means in use or free ram?
[02:45] <letarte> host`: can u help me ???
[02:45] <letarte> come to #hostya
[02:45] <host`> with what?
[02:45] <O2> anyone can help?
[02:45] <DarkrhaveN> good evening host
[02:46] <FearBSD> anybody can tell me how i can make the livecd bootable from usb flashdrives?
[02:46] <jordan> FearBSD, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1062799&postcount=100
[02:47] <MaKaTiGuY^> how can i mount my other partition drive?
[02:47] <BlueEagle> o2: user ram would probably be the ram availible to the user (ie. not tied up by kernel and/or system processes)
[02:47] <BlueEagle> o2: ...and that's just a guess.
[02:47] <w30> I have an ipp protocol print server on 192.168.1.250 but the printer doesn't tell my spool when it is done printing. Is there an entry in cupsd.conf I am missing? or need?
[02:47] <BlueEagle> o2: user ram would probably include cache too.
[02:48] <BlueEagle> ...or not.
[02:48] <FearBSD> thx man
[02:48] <DarkrhaveN> heh
[02:48] <DarkrhaveN> is ubunto taxing on hardware, like windows is ?
[02:48] <DarkrhaveN> wow
[02:48] <DarkrhaveN> I should be shot for that spelling error
[02:48] <DarkrhaveN> ubuntu
[02:48] <BlueEagle> !enter
[02:48] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[02:48] <zenwhen> w30: have you tried this configuration? http://occy.net/printing
[02:48] <shadowhywind> Hi all, I am having issues with my wireless, dhcpcd wont grab an IP anymore, any ideas?
[02:49] <BlueEagle> darkrhaven: You should be shot for !enter. :p
[02:49] <DarkrhaveN> blueeagle: probably, old irc habit
[02:49] <w30> zenwhen, nope, but I will, thanks.
[02:49] <Vornotron> Ubuntu - and Linux in general - is not very resource intensive unless you run a lot of resource-intensive stuff.
[02:49] <Samuli^> DarkrhaveN, it really depends on what you're running on it.
[02:50] <LjL> DarkrhaveN: i personally find both Ubuntu and Kubuntu a bit more hardware-voracious than Windows XP. that's just me though, never made any measurements of any sorts
[02:50] <host`> Shadowhywind, do an iwlist wlan0 scan
[02:50] <zenwhen> w30: that has been the magic bullet for me
[02:50] <robertj_> should I be able to use my bluetooth headset as a microphone?
[02:50] <Vornotron> Windows is mainly so heavy because it's doing a lot of stuff in the default setup.
[02:50] <sethk> LjL, depends on what you run, of course
[02:50] <BlueEagle> darkrhaven: And as for your question "taxing" is a question of definition. X and gnome would roughly equal win98 or so I guess. Still the applications you choose to run can be as taxing as anything.
[02:50] <LjL> sethk: well, yeah, i'm thinking about the standard stuff mostly. the desktop, office apps, a browser...
[02:50] <shadowhywind> hpst', yah did that, nodda
[02:51] <gif> problem: I get a black screen when I'm trying to boot the live cd. I guess the display driver is the problem. my video card is a nvidia 5900 and the version of ubuntu is 6.06
[02:51] <Samuli^> I pretty sure gnome is runs slower than win98 on older computers.
[02:51] <shodanjr_gr> How do i configure the order of boot items in Grub?
[02:51] <FearBSD> !edgy
[02:51] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[02:51] <ruffles> hello there. what's the difference between apt-get clean and apt-get autoclean ?
[02:51] <BlueEagle> shodanjr_gr: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:51] <host`> is your instead of wlan0 use what you would usually use to dhcp though
[02:51] <Samuli^> it doesn't take up too much ram, but just.. feels sluggish.
[02:51] <sethk> LjL, oh, all that low overhead stuff.
[02:51] <shodanjr_gr> thx BlueEagle
[02:51] <shadowhywind> host`, i know the scan completed
[02:51] <BlueEagle> shodanjr_gr: That's the file you'll need to edit so ALT+F2 and type in: gksudo /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:51] <BlueEagle> bahh
[02:52] <host`> nothing?
[02:52] <BlueEagle> shodanjr_gr: make that gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:52] <jordan> Samuli^, Have you tried XFCE?
[02:52] <LjL> sethk: well, that's what most people mostly use i think
[02:52] <shadowhywind> it returned some restults, but no ip
[02:52] <Mik3> !schedule
[02:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[02:52] <DarkrhaveN> BlueEagle: and Ubuntu is good for users who've never touched a linux o/s in thier entire lives ?
[02:52] <Samuli^> jordan, yes. It's nice.
[02:52] <bernie> my top bar rearranged itself, how can i move3 the icons
[02:52] <host`> shadowhywind, try doing dmesg
[02:52] <sethk> LjL, many, definitely, fortunately not me.
[02:52] <shadowhywind> if i manually add a ip, i can see the setuppage for the router, but i can not get to any webpages
[02:52] <host`> shadowhywind, make sure you set the essid
[02:53] <Samuli^> I felt that KDE run better on my older comp than gnome did. It was the sweetspot with functionality and speed.
[02:53] <BlueEagle> darkrhaven: It's not the worst place in the world to start, however since the focus is on open source software entirely you'll find that you've got trouble playing much media out of the box. (Ie. you'll need to add codecs for mp3 et al.
[02:53] <shadowhywind> i am using wpa_supplicant, and i have been able to connect for the last 2 weeks, just today its acting werid
[02:53] <host`> shadowhywind, 'iwconfig wlan0 essid essidnamehere'
[02:53] <shadowhywind> also the only semi-werid thing in dmesg is [17179892.988000]  wlan0: no IPv6 routers present
[02:54] <david__> the sound on flash videos under firefox is lagging behind the video
[02:54] <host`> you should se something else relating to it other than the IPv6 thing
[02:55] <gif> problem: I get a black screen when I'm trying to boot the live cd. I guess the display driver is the problem. my video card is a nvidia 5900 and the version of ubuntu is 6.06
[02:55] <sethk> david__, turn down the lights, maybe the video will go slower
[02:55] <host`> shadowhywind, there should be another entry for wlan0 before that on telling you that the hardware is present or something
[02:55] <viator> if you just install gnome network manager you get wpa
[02:55] <gif> (I don't want to flood here, I just did not get an answer)
[02:55] <viator> and wpa 2
[02:55] <DarkrhaveN> BlueEagle, are there many books on Ubuntu ?
[02:55] <shadowhywind> well yah, all the other entries are normal
[02:56] <sethk> gif, use the text mode install on the alternate cd
[02:56] <BlueEagle> darkrhaven: Imo ubuntu is the best free (as in beer) starter distro. However linspire was looking quite well in beta bar some stability issues and the fact that linspire uses KDE. :)
[02:56] <david__> sethk.... huh??
[02:56] <sethk> gif, if your purpose of using the live cd is to install
[02:56] <gif> there is only one cd
[02:56] <sethk> david__, huh which?
[02:56] <sethk> gif, no, there are three
[02:56] <david__> sethk.... turn down the lights?
[02:56] <Samuli^> BlueEagle, nothing wrong with KDE, really :)
[02:56] <TigerWolf> can someone send me their /etc/modules file so i can find out whats wrong with mine?
[02:56] <host`> mine says the IPv6 thing to, but I also have another entry saying that it's present basically(but I need to update my driver)
[02:56] <sethk> david__, oh, that was an attempt at humor
[02:56] <gif> yup, that's what I am trying to do
[02:56] <david__> sethk ah
[02:56] <Geoffrey2> can I just double-click on a .deb to install it?
[02:56] <david__> k
[02:56] <DarkrhaveN> I dunno i'm gunna order up some cd's and build a box
[02:57] <DarkrhaveN> and see
[02:57] <sethk> BlueEagle, I use kde on all of my ubuntu boxes, except servers (which don't use desktops at all)
[02:57] <DarkrhaveN> I gotta get rid of windows before vista hits
[02:57] <BlueEagle> darkrhaven: There's been written an official ubunty book, however much of what you find in other books is really linux and/or package spesific and not distro spesific. Ie. you've got access to all packages (well almost) in ubuntu as you do in redhat, mandriva et al.
[02:57] <david__> so, the fix is to wait for an update to flash from adobe then....
[02:57] <DarkrhaveN> thats all I know.
[02:57] <TigerWolf> Geoffrey2: you should be able to
[02:57] <LjL> Geoffrey2: thanks to gdebi, you should be able to. note that third-party .debs might break things.
[02:57] <host`> make sure to set your essid, and you might have to ifdown everything else like the eth0 for the wlan0 to work
[02:57] <viator> if you want kde i recommend mepis
[02:57] <jordan> How can I map a key to be eqivilent to pressing the right mouse button ( I am on a mac and need a way to right click )?
[02:57] <BlueEagle> darkrhaven: What are you using your computer for?
[02:57] <gif> sethk: I only received 1 cd
[02:57] <DarkrhaveN> alot of different things
[02:58] <Samuli^> mepis is not bad, but it's not ubuntu either ;)
[02:58] <shadowhywind> thats something i haven't tried yet, setting eth0 down and dhcpcd wlan0
[02:58] <DarkrhaveN> as of lately, its been downloading music, myspace, aim and irc
[02:58] <BlueEagle> darkrhaven: let me rephrase: Do you play lots of games or view lots of flash stuff?
[02:58] <sethk> gif, download the alternate cd image and burn it onto a cd
[02:58] <ruffles> Samuli^: mepis is based on ubuntu as far as i'm concerned
[02:58] <DarkrhaveN> I hardly play any games, unless they're emulated console games
[02:58] <shadowhywind> this might be the problem [17180693.348000]  ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[02:58] <sethk> gif, there are things you can try, but the probability of them succeeding is low.
[02:59] <Samuli^> ruffles, it is. funnily enough ubuntu is based on debian and now mepis is based on ubuntu. Uses the same repos etc.
[02:59] <sethk> gif, the other think I'd recommend is installing the preceding version of ubuntu, and then upgrading.
[02:59] <Samuli^> ruffles, but still, I find ubuntu better than mepis for the difference there is.
[02:59] <BlueEagle> darkrhaven: those four are well catered for in linux.
[02:59] <gif> ok, any references where I can find the information for these other things?
[02:59] <ruffles> Samuli^: well.. that's something personal i guess
[02:59] <avagant> I want the newer Konversation but it's not in the repositories and I'm on Ubuntu, is there anyway I can get it from the repositories?
[02:59] <jordan> david__, You can install wine and windows firefox and use the windows version of flash.
[02:59] <ruffles> Samuli^: i prefer ubuntu as well
[02:59] <david__> ah
[02:59] <david__> k
[02:59] <bud> where do i put python scrips to make them work
[03:00] <sethk> bud, they don't have to be in any particular place
[03:00] <baconbacon> bud, theu can work anywhere if you make them executable
[03:00] <host`> wow, I jsut realized that my L2 chache is set at 256K
[03:00] <host`> I have 512K L2 cache
[03:00] <bud> ok thanks
[03:00] <BlueEagle> darkrhaven: For aim I recomend gaim or kopete. For downloading I recomend you actually BUY stuff for irc I recomend irssi or xchat and for myspace I recomend Opera or firefox.
[03:00] <Geoffrey2> what's a good PSX emulator for Ubuntu?
[03:01] <O2> BlueEagle: I have 1GB ram, and running only firefox, and xchat, then I only have no more than 300MB ram left free?
[03:01] <host`> would upgrading to the 686 kernel fix that or would I need to compile a kernel for it to recognize that?
[03:01] <sethk> O2, that can be misleading
[03:01] <baconbacon> host`: wouldn't cache settings be at the bios level
[03:01] <ruffles> Samuli^: did you know that mepis uses like 70% of packages straight from ubuntu repos?
[03:01] <LjL> Geoffrey2: the only one i can see in the repos is pcsx
[03:01] <wrabbit^> anybody able to help me out with the simplest of c code?
[03:02] <BlueEagle> o2: Why do you want ram to just sit there? It's a good thing to cache stuff you know so you can read from memory instead of from the disks.
[03:02] <ruffles> and even more...
[03:02] <BlueEagle> o2: ie. free memory is in most cases wasted memory.
[03:02] <avagant> How do I get the newer conversation without untaring it?
[03:02] <avagant> I'm on Ubuntu.
[03:02] <sethk> O2, linux does not recover memory released by an app until the kernel needs to give that memory to some other process.  So the amount of memory in use for a given process if often much higher than the real value.
[03:02] <BlueEagle> o2: You can add what is cached to the amount of free memory and get the amount of memory availible to applications.
[03:02] <host`> baconbacon, I would think so.. but the kernel is just recognizing the 256
[03:02] <LjL> !anybody > wrabbit^
[03:02] <sethk> O2, so what it means is that most of your memory has been used, not that most of your memory is unavailable.
[03:02] <baconbacon> !konversation
[03:02] <sedrake> if I have 1 ubuntu partition and 1 xp partition, with grub.. is it eaasy to just install a new windows partition and get it in bootloader?
[03:02] <ubotu> konversation: user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 0.19-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 4835 kB, installed size 11136 kB
[03:03] <O2> BlueEagle: After I close firefox, and the user-ram became 240.  it's 280 before
[03:03] <sethk> sedrake, easy for me.  Some people claim they have trouble doing it.
[03:03] <k0rd> any idea why my install is freezing up?
[03:03] <k0rd> Im using a ubuntu disc straight from Ubuntu
[03:03] <k0rd> so thats not it
[03:03] <wrabbit^> LjL: harsh
[03:03] <sethk> sedrake, windows has to be on the first partition of primary master, and you'll have to reinstall the boot loader if windows clobbers it.
[03:03] <Tru7h_> Can I install a printer for Ubuntu that's attached to another computer on my LAN, a Windows XP?
[03:03] <LjL> k0rd: that's no reason to exclude it... printed CDs may still come out wrong
[03:03] <sethk> k0rd, use the text mode install from the alternate cd
[03:04] <k0rd> Well they sent me 6 discs
[03:04] <jordan> 02, But you probably never touch swap.
[03:04] <viator> you want to rightclick?
[03:04] <k0rd> So i'll try another one
[03:04] <O2> sethk: I think you are right! user-ram must be how much ram we used
[03:04] <BlueEagle> o2: as sethk also pointed out. Linux doesn't clean up the memory unless it's about to run out. The memory that is not used at the moment does not equal the memory availible to applications.
[03:04] <viator> on your mac
[03:04] <sethk> Tru7h_, you can, and you use samba to make it look like a windows printer to the windows boxes.
[03:04] <jordan> viator, Yes.
[03:04] <viator> You could use the 'mouseemu' package (in the Universe repository). You can set it up to use e.g. Ctrl-click as right click etc
[03:04] <ruffles> is there any shortcut for pc locking already set on gnome?
[03:04] <BlueEagle> o2: As a general rule: You've got enough memory unless you notice the paging to swal.
[03:04] <BlueEagle> swap*
[03:04] <sethk> BlueEagle, right, that was what I think I said, although perhaps I wasn't clear.
[03:04] <Tru7h_> sethk: Alright. How do I do that?
[03:05] <jordan> viator, When I install mouseemu it breaks the mouse completely ( I can no longer move the cursor )
[03:05] <dougsko> ruffles: theres always xlock...i dont know if that fulfills what youre trying to do though
[03:05] <sethk> Tru7h_, CUPS can do most of it for you.
[03:05] <viator> heh sometimes
[03:05] <ruffles> dougsko: i've found it already.. it's control+alt+l :)
[03:05] <sethk> Tru7h_, there is a printing howto that is supposed to be quite good.  It might be...
[03:05] <sethk> !printing
[03:05] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[03:05] <ruffles> thanks anyway
[03:05] <wrabbit^> Would this be correct if I were to work out somebodies age in days, hours, minutes and seconds? (365*age)*24 / (60 * 60), days, hour, min, sec)
[03:05] <Tru7h_> sethk: Thanks!
[03:05] <dougsko> ruffles: np
[03:05] <sethk> Tru7h_, check that out.
[03:06] <Tru7h_> I'll do that.
[03:06] <turtletime> Is there any major difference betwwen ubuntu and kubuntu, besides window managers?
[03:06] <BlueEagle> o2: Here's a trick for you: Open a console and type: free -m
[03:06] <pls> ubuntu 6.06.1 i3  <--- is this still desktop version ?
[03:06] <ruffles> turtletime: nope
[03:06] <turtletime> coo
[03:06] <sethk> Tru7h_, come back if you still have questions, but you'll find most of what you need, hopefully all.
[03:06] <pls> I have it on disk and wanna know if its desktop or server
[03:06] <O2> the user-ram is 240MB.  After I run a emule, it became 246
[03:06] <BlueEagle> o2: look at how much swap you've been using. If it's more than say 32 then you might want to have a look-see at what's going on. :)
[03:06] <NewRhyme> !vm
[03:06] <ubotu> vm: A mail user agent for Emacs.. In component universe, is optional. Version 7.19-8 (dapper), package size 563 kB, installed size 2652 kB
[03:06] <pls> ubuntu 6.06.1 i3  <--- is this still desktop version ?
[03:06] <pls> I have it on disk and wanna know if its desktop or server
[03:07] <NewRhyme> !VMware
[03:07] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[03:07] <O2> swap, 0 byte, total 1GB
[03:07] <bruenig> pls, that is not enough information, to tell. There is ubuntu 6.06.1 i386 server and ubuntu 6.06.1 desktop
[03:07] <ruffles> pls: it can be both depending on you
[03:07] <pls> bruenig, any way of finding out ?
[03:07] <bruenig> put it in and see what options it gives you
[03:07] <pls> I'm running on windows ATM, its in the CD-Drive
[03:07] <pls> where do i go to see what it is ?
[03:07] <viator> jordan try f12
[03:07] <bruenig> turn the computer off and then reboot with it in the drive
[03:07] <turtletime> Whats the best software to use to play windows games in ubuntu?
[03:07] <O2> OK, I should take user-ram as the ram are in used!
[03:08] <Tru7h_> sethk: It mensions installing a printer using the printer wizard as the first step, but it doesn't elaborate. That's what I'm having troubles with ATM.
[03:08] <pls> bruenig, a solution without having to boot ?
[03:08] <turtletime> Is wine the best?
[03:08] <ruffles> pls: you can get a server or desktop workin' from within apt-gets
[03:08] <NewRhyme> !okle
[03:08] <dougsko> turtletime: wine/cedega
[03:08] <ubotu> okle: DVD player for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4+cvs20040728-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 127 kB, installed size 612 kB
[03:08] <ruffles> turtletime: crossover office is really good
[03:08] <BlueEagle> o2: Why is it important?
[03:08] <bruenig> pls that is the easiest way. You could probably extract the iso and see what kind of files are in it
[03:08] <O2> Oh, then, ubuntu really cost less ram than windowsxp
[03:08] <ruffles> turtletime: oh i'm sorry.. it's not for games thouhg
[03:08] <pls> bruenig, its extracted, what can i go to on the disk, to find out
[03:08] <ruffles> though*
[03:08] <pls> I'm looking at the files right now
[03:08] <jordan> viator, Doesn't work, it did when macs had their own specific version ( PPC Ubuntu ) but now they use the same version as PCs, so F12 doesn't work by default as right click.
[03:09] <BlueEagle> o2: Well that's given.
[03:09] <BlueEagle> :)
[03:09] <O2> BlueEagle: why not? I want to know, : )
[03:09] <bruenig> pls, well I have never looked at the server iso or the desktop iso for that matter, but look around for some graphical apps. If there are graphical apps, that means desktop
[03:09] <gif> how do I get to the console when booting with 6.06?
[03:09] <bruenig> things such as gnome would probably be a big tip off that it is desktop
[03:09] <gif> booting from the cd...
[03:09] <pls> yes the splash screen pops up and gives me an option to try out ubuntu witout install, it has Firefox, Grub..etc
[03:10] <O2> who can tell me why my realplayer plays rm file very slowly...
[03:10] <fildo> just to confirm . Ext3 / is user  partition ?
[03:10] <jordan> turtletime, Wine is the best FREE program, Cediga costs money but is better with games.
[03:10] <bruenig> pls, desktop it is then
[03:10] <pls> bruenig, thanks
[03:10] <turtletime> jordan: thanks
[03:10] <BlueEagle> gif: Applications -> accessories -> terminal
[03:10] <BlueEagle> gif: or CTRL+ALT+F1
[03:10] <dougsko> pls: yeah you can install any of the apps from the repos, no matter if its a "server" install or not
[03:10] <pls> ok
[03:10] <gif> during the boot process?
[03:10] <BlueEagle> gif: No.
[03:10] <BlueEagle> gif: When you've booted into X
[03:11] <pls> Now i have another problem.. it loads in this machine, but in my other machine, it doesnt boot and when i try to load it in windows, it hits me with crappy errors like "canot load CD, it might be in an unreadable format..etc"
[03:11] <jordan> turtletime, Most games won't work without some tweaking though unfortunately.
[03:11] <pls> But it boots from CD in this machine, and yes the boot order is fine in the other machine.
[03:11] <BlueEagle> pls: How old is the cd-rom in that other machine?
[03:11] <avagant> Is it possible to make debs out of rpms?
[03:11] <avagant> !rpm
[03:11] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[03:11] <bruenig> !info alien
[03:11] <fildo> is it a dvd rom u have?
[03:11] <ubotu> alien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In component main, is optional. Version 8.64 (dapper), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB
[03:11] <dougsko> avagant: yes, use an app called alien
[03:11] <avagant> Ah I see.
[03:11] <BlueEagle> pls: Old CD-roms had a weaker lazer and are less willing to read burned CDs.
[03:11] <bruenig> "but it's quite dangerous"
[03:12] <pls> BlueEagle, its a 52x CD-ROM
[03:12] <avagant> Yah that's what I read.
[03:12] <avagant> Dangerous as in how?
[03:12] <pls> BlueEagle, its a 52x CD-ROM Drive.
[03:12] <avagant> Someone is going to come out and slap your hand?
[03:12] <dougsko> avagant: it just doesnt always comvert the way it should
[03:12] <fildo> haha
[03:12] <avagant> Oh.
[03:12] <bruenig> don't know. Everything is dangerous if it isn't they way you are "supposed" to do things.
[03:12] <bruenig> automatix, etc.
[03:12] <dougsko> avagant: but in my experience its always worked pretty well
[03:12] <BlueEagle> pls: You might also want to use a lense cleaner of sorts. You could always try moving the cd-rom drive that you know to work over.
[03:12] <avagant> But I want the newest version of Konversation.
[03:12] <turtletime> How's linux/ubuntu support for dual core chips(amd x2)? Will I have any problems?
[03:13] <pls> BlueEagle, its crossed my mind :)
[03:13] <bruenig> avagant, compile the source...
[03:13] <avagant> I'm on like 9.0 something and it's up to like 1.01 super duper trooper.
[03:13] <FearBSD> how can i format a usb stick in ext2 under windows (important: i need a lowercase parition name)
[03:13] <maswan> turtletime: works perfectly fine for me
[03:13] <avagant> I've had nothing but bad luck compiling anything.
[03:13] <ruffles> !automatix
[03:13] <FearBSD> anybody?
[03:13] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[03:13] <turtletime> maswan: sweet
[03:13] <CVirus> what type of processor shall I choose while compiling a kernel for an Intel Core Duo processor ?
[03:13] <ruffles> CVirus: smp
[03:13] <pls> BlueEagle, taking CD-ROM Drive into other machine
[03:13] <pls> brb
[03:13] <avagant> Usually either I don't have the right dependencies, or it doesn't end up working anyways so I have to delete it.
[03:13] <ruffles> i686
[03:13] <BlueEagle> pls: Either that or you can get those blank cd-r disks as they tend to reflect more light than the green ones.
[03:14] <jordan> FearBSD, If you are still trying to make that bootable thumb drive, I don't think it has to be ext3, fat should be fine.
[03:14] <bruenig> I have not compiled anything on this installed but have before and never had any real problems.
[03:14] <avagant> Take for example last.fm and last-exit.
[03:14] <BlueEagle> cvirus: i686 and SMP iirc
[03:14] <bruenig> installation*
[03:14] <avagant> I haven't compiled anything..........
[03:14] <avagant> ....et
[03:14] <avagant> yet
[03:14] <bruenig> avagant, just watch as it goes down the checklist of dependencies and where it fails, go find that
[03:14] <CVirus> BlueEagle: ruffles: I said when compiling a custom vanilla kernel
[03:14] <CVirus> those choices in menuconfig
[03:14] <bruenig> usually an apt-cache search of whatever it says you don't have will put up whatever it is you need
[03:15] <ruffles> CVirus: i have the impression that core due processors are 64bits
[03:15] <fildo> bruenig: somestimes easier said then done
[03:15] <CVirus> ruffles: no they arent
[03:15] <BlueEagle> cvirus: Can't you choose 686 there?
[03:15] <avagant> The new Konversation includes a script for xmms, and I'm a nerd enough that I want people to see what I'm listening to :D
[03:15] <CVirus> BlueEagle: nope
[03:15] <fildo> avagant: yeh but gives dep issues .
[03:15] <avagant> O rly?
[03:15] <bruenig> I say it and do it equally as easy. In fact explaining how I apt-cache search takes more keystrokes than doing an apt-cache search.
[03:15] <fildo> when i try n install
[03:15] <avagant> I wish I knew how to write a script myself or I would.
[03:16] <BlueEagle> avagant: No, you don't want that. You might think you do, but you really really do not want that.
[03:16] <fildo> not too hard to do
[03:16] <CVirus> avagant: learn bash scripting
[03:16] <avagant> bash scriptttingggg.
[03:16] <fildo> sh !
[03:16] <avagant> I'm sure it's not too terribly hard.
[03:16] <ruffles> avagant: open your text editor and start the scrip with #/bin/bash
[03:16] <ruffles> avagant: that's a good start
[03:16] <avagant> Hahaha
[03:16] <fildo> shell scriptoring
[03:16] <avagant> !bash
[03:16] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[03:16] <bruenig> avagant, believe me, people in IRC love to see what you are playing at the moment. Nothing better than a /me informing of that priceless information.
[03:16] <jrcjr> I'm kinda confused about which version of Ubuntu or Kubuntu to use. I have a Pentium D system that is supposedly 64 bit compliant through EMT64. Do I still use the i386 versions, or something else?
[03:17] <jordan> FearBSD, Are you still trying to make that bootable thumb drive?
[03:17] <avagant> Hahaha bruenig I sense some sarcasm.
[03:17] <avagant> I COULD be wrong.
[03:17] <bruenig> MAYBE
[03:17] <BlueEagle> avagant: No, you couldn't
[03:17] <lansing> hey ppl can some one help me i need to know of a program i coould use for downloadin music
[03:17] <avagant> hahaha
[03:17] <avagant> Cracks me up.
[03:17] <BlueEagle> lansing: http://cdon.com
[03:17] <BlueEagle> lansing: ;)
[03:17] <turtletime> I have a RAID 5, do I need to download the Alternate Install cd ?
[03:18] <avagant> You know what else does? Reinstalling SIX times.
[03:18] <host`> lansing, shareaza
[03:18] <lansing> for ubuntu
[03:18] <bruenig> I thought about trying to write a script to do that because I became enamored at how many people were doing it but then figured it was stupid. Avagant, you can probably find a ready made script online
[03:18] <avagant> Probably.
[03:18] <bruenig> lansing, firefox downloads a lot of stuff via http and other familiar protocols
[03:18] <avagant> That's actually what I'm trying to find.
[03:19] <lansing> ok
[03:19] <lansing> thanx
[03:19] <jordan> FearBSD, Are you still trying to make that bootable thumb drive?
[03:19] <prestosd> Hey all!!
[03:19] <fildo> thumb drive?
[03:19] <bruenig> !hi
[03:19] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:19] <fildo> hi
[03:19] <prestosd> Can anyone tell me how to install a gnome vista theme in ubuntu
[03:19] <jordan> fildo, USB drive
[03:19] <turtletime> hmm, am I going to have problems with a raid 5 install?
[03:19] <avagant> Download the tar drag to your themes.
[03:19] <fildo> im a long time listen, virgin caller
[03:20] <turtletime> any tips?
[03:20] <avagant> Installed.
[03:20] <fildo> jordan: thnx for explanation . for the laymen
[03:20] <bruenig> prestosd, find a gnome vista theme, then go to system>preferences>theme, drag and drop
[03:20] <prestosd> OK thanks you rule!!
[03:20] <avagant> They don't call me quick-draw for nothing.
[03:20] <prestosd> lol
[03:20] <avagant> I had a nice theme before I reinstalled.
[03:20] <prestosd> bye
[03:20] <avagant> FOR THE SIXTH TIME
[03:20] <fildo> ah run eyecandy
[03:20] <fildo> compiz n shit
[03:20] <avagant> I want everything to be transparent on gnome.
[03:20] <fildo> cube rocks
[03:21] <avagant> So transparent I can barely read anything.
[03:21] <avagant> But it'll look elite.
[03:21] <bruenig> I might get a good video card just to run compiz "n shit"
[03:21] <fildo> i run it on n/b . with nv
[03:21] <fildo> works fine
[03:21] <avagant> You know, I didn't like that fluxbox deal very much. Just sayin'.
[03:21] <BlueEagle> avagant: Turn the brightness to max and then let the picture stay on the monitor for about a month and then turn your monitor off.
[03:21] <avagant> Hahahaha.
[03:21] <BlueEagle> avagant: ;D
[03:21] <avagant> Why aren't you guys comedians?
[03:22] <BlueEagle> avagant: Because you're the one being comical here.
[03:22] <avagant> This monitor is bad enough.
[03:22] <BlueEagle> ;D
[03:22] <jrcjr> Hello
[03:22] <avagant> xD
[03:22] <bruenig> !hi
[03:22] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:22] <fildo> !hi
[03:22] <avagant> !bye
[03:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bye - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:22] <bruenig> beat you loser
[03:22] <fildo> !hi > bruenig
[03:22] <bruenig> stop stealing my factoid triggers
[03:22] <avagant> I don't even know what my computer has on it to tell you the truth.
[03:22] <lansing> onece i download the program it comes up wit an error
[03:23] <jrcjr> I'm kinda confused about which version of Ubuntu or Kubuntu to use. I have a Pentium D system that is supposedly 64 bit compliant through EMT64. Do I still use the i386 versions, or something else?
[03:23] <avagant> So even if I wanted the most 1337 video whatever it probably wouldn't work.
[03:23] <fildo> haha
[03:23] <fildo> xorg.conf
[03:23] <avagant> That's what I get for buying off Craigslist.
[03:23] <fildo> n find out
[03:23] <bruenig> I am not big on hardware either. I have some prefab computer and I really only looked at RAM and processor and HD space. Other than that, I didn't really take care to notice
[03:23] <fildo> or modprobe .
[03:23] <BlueEagle> avagant: "most 1337 video"?
[03:23] <avagant> Elite?
[03:23] <avagant> HAX0R
[03:24] <fildo> lol
[03:24] <avagant> Whoops off topic.
[03:24] <fildo> u must be 12
[03:24] <avagant> 12 going on 25.
[03:24] <BlueEagle> avagant: That would be divX run trough aalib in a 200x180 terminal
[03:24] <avagant> Or the other way around.
[03:24] <bruenig> nothing better than that vesa driver to tip me off to what kind of video card I have
[03:24] <bruenig> good idea fildo
[03:24] <avagant> I want a massive sound system so I can get blown away like in those commercials with the guy sitting in the chair watching tv.
[03:24] <avagant> I think that'd be pretty neat.
[03:25] <avagant> But for now I'll stick to my 5 dollar headphones.
[03:25] <fildo> #offtopic dude
[03:25] <avagant> true that homes.
[03:25] <fildo> alsaa rocks
[03:25] <bruenig> !offtopic
[03:25] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:25] <avagant> alsa is pretty nice, when you get it working.
[03:25] <fildo> out of box for me
[03:25] <FearBSD> jordan: yes
[03:25] <fildo> never had any issues
[03:25] <avagant> When you realize going through all those extra steps and spending 3 days doing it was worthless.
[03:25] <fildo> only probably ive had is with wifi
[03:25] <jordan> I just wanted to save you the trouble of trying to format it as ext3 in windows because it is actually supposed to be fat32.
[03:25] <FearBSD> jordan: i need a linux here rarely
[03:25] <fildo> but thatts cause my n/b has a crappy ipw2100
[03:26] <freemind> !seen holycow
[03:26] <ubotu> holycow is on IRC right now!
[03:26] <Michael-DK> Hi anyone know how to install ATER-theme for gaim
[03:26] <jordan> FearBSD, I just wanted to save you the trouble of trying to format it as ext3 in windows because it is actually supposed to be fat32.
[03:26] <freemind> holycow, hello mate
[03:26] <cr-tablet> my mplayer keeps freazing up, long before it goes to actually play the file with : Using MMX (with tiny bit MMX2) Optimized OnScreenDisplay
[03:26] <avagant> !seen jordan
[03:26] <ubotu> jordan is on IRC right now!
[03:26] <Michael-DK> using ubuntu 6.06.1
[03:26] <chrometiger> how do u login as root, and/or  do a terminal command as root or say "create a folder on my desktop linked to /home/user/c  my windows partition"   cuz it wont let me unless im root
[03:26] <avagant> sudo
[03:26] <jordan> !sudo
[03:26] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:26] <fildo> or su
[03:26] <avagant> wait, so what was I looking for online again?
[03:26] <BlueEagle> !theme
[03:26] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[03:26] <freemind> try "whatis" binary
[03:26] <chrometiger> k
[03:26] <avagant> Oh yah.
[03:27] <FearBSD> yes they say i need both, a fat32 and a ext2. is the ext2 not important?
[03:27] <FearBSD> jordan: @
[03:27] <chrometiger> i couldn't find that on ubuntu.com  thanx
[03:27] <fildo> brb smokee
[03:27] <lansing> ive installed shareza wat do ido now
[03:27] <viator> what do old mac laptops use for rightclick?
[03:28] <jordan> FearBSD, Sorry, Didn't see that, I thought they gave a program for doing that in windows in that tutorial.
[03:28] <avagant> Are you kidding, the first place I'd NEVER look would be ubuntu.com.
[03:28] <Tru7h_> Hold Control down while clicking. (@viator)
[03:28] <avagant> Or ubuntuforums.org
[03:28] <avagant> !ubuntuforums
[03:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuforums - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:28] <lansing> iam new to ubuntu
[03:28] <viator> so you could use hotkeys or somthing
[03:29] <avagant> Script for xmms, right.
[03:29] <reader> hi
[03:29] <jordan> FearBSD, I see now, you only need the ext2 partition for the persistance feature, which you don't need.
[03:29] <turtletime> ok, I'm reading some bad things about installing ubuntu onto a raid array, what's the verdict?  Is it a pain?
[03:30] <jordan> FearBSD, But as that guide is made for persistence, I don't know what will happen without it.
[03:30] <Michael-DK> hi anyone of you, using GTK2 ATER-theme for xmms and also using it for gaim?????
[03:30] <cr-tablet> turtletime: i have a friend with the some problems and Rad0
[03:31] <jordan> FearBSD, It is MUCH easier to do if you don't have to deal with persistence, let me see if I can find a better tutorial.
[03:31] <turtletime> cr-tablet: did he end up getting it installed?
[03:31] <cr-tablet> turtletime: i'm going to go help him sometime, but no, he did not
[03:32] <Michael-DK> avagant hey u know how to install GTK gaim themes??
[03:33] <avagant> Negative.
[03:34] <jeff_> is this the place to ask an edgy question?
[03:34] <LjL> !edgy
[03:34] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:34] <avagant> !schedule
[03:34] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[03:34] <avagant> See, I was always curious, what's the difference in edgy?
[03:34] <LjL> what difference?
[03:34] <lansing> is there a nuber that i can call for a ubuntu rep
[03:35] <host`> what's wrong lansing?
[03:35] <avagant> Edgy or Dapper.
[03:35] <avagant> Is there a difference?
[03:35] <lansing> i need some help on installing a music downloader for ubuntu
[03:36] <jordan> jeff_, #Ubuntu+1
[03:36] <host`> I thought you installed shareaza?
[03:36] <LjL> avagant: Dapper is the current version. Edgy is the version that's being developed right now, i.e. the next version, which is currently experimental.
[03:36] <LjL> avagant: sometime this month, Edgy will become the new latest stable version
[03:36] <lansing> ive tryed but it comes up wit an error
[03:36] <avagant> Well I mean, like has anyone seen a difference between the 2?
[03:37] <avagant> Or is it just ubuntu plus one?
[03:37] <jeff_> jordan: thanks
[03:37] <host`> can I download edgy now?
[03:37] <jordan> host`, Yes.
[03:37] <TigerWolf> host`: yes
[03:38] <TigerWolf> host`: but its beta
[03:38] <Michael-DK> http://www.taimila.com/index.php found a nice site here:-P
[03:39] <FearBSD> jordan: sorry my windows broke. did you get my last question with ext2?
[03:39] <FearBSD> do i need it or not?
[03:39] <FearBSD> or only fat32
[03:39] <Michael-DK> dosnt anyone here use ATER-them for xmms/Mplayer/gaim?????
[03:40] <jordan> FearBSD, You only need fat, but those instructions might not work without ext2.
[03:40] <host`> can apt-get it?
[03:40] <host`> or would I need to download a cd?
[03:41] <dan2> what's going on with the http servers?
[03:41] <jordan> FearBSD, Those instructions do more than just make a bootable USB drive, it has a feature called persistence, but you don't need that, so you don't need ext2.
[03:41] <dan2> how come I can't connect to most of them
[03:41] <btdown> download edgy at cdimage.ubuntu.com
[03:41] <FearBSD> jordan: could you quickly review it so you can tell me if i really need it for this guide or not?
[03:41] <dan2> btdown: I don't want edgy yet
[03:41] <jordan> FearBSD, Sure.
[03:41] <FearBSD> jordan: persistence? what's that
[03:41] <lansing> so is there a tollfree number that i can call
[03:42] <btdown> dan2 that was to host`
[03:42] <FearBSD> jordan: i only want to boot and install from it
[03:42] <Michael-DK> why a change i like 6.0.6:)
[03:42] <Michael-DK> 6.06
[03:43] <jordan> FearBSD, It lets you save settings / install applications on the usb drive, which you don't need if all you want to use it for is to install Ubuntu on your hard drive.
[03:43] <FearBSD> jordan: do i need this strange hp foramt with those files on it or only simple fat32 in my case?
[03:43] <FearBSD> i made a strange file sys with this hp tool
[03:43] <FearBSD> not sure wether i need it or not without persistence thing
[03:43] <dan2> what happened to dapper on all the servers?
[03:44] <Flannel> dan2: nothing?
[03:44] <dan2> Flannel: what happens when you run apt-get update
[03:44] <dan2> all the dapper ones are failing
[03:44] <dan2> 404s
[03:44] <Flannel> dan2: I'm on breezy, so I don't know.  Why?  dapper ones?  are you running dpaper?  are you using the us mirror?
[03:44] <dan2> Flannel: was using the us mirror
[03:44] <FearBSD> jordan: now that would be nice
[03:44] <dan2> it was slower than dirt
[03:44] <dan2> so I changed through a few mirrors
[03:44] <FearBSD> but for now i take the non persistance way
[03:44] <dan2> issues with all of them
[03:45] <Flannel> dan2: pastebin your sources.list
[03:45] <FearBSD> so if i got this right now: i only need to have a clean fa32 filesys and copy all files from the live iso to it?
[03:46] <dan2> Flannel: http://rafb.net/paste/results/94tYQT62.html
[03:47] <jordan> FearBSD, I am pretty sure you only need fat32, these instructions should still work.
[03:47] <dan2> Flannel: I'm retarded I guess
[03:47] <dan2> Flannel: I think I copied in a CD mirror and not a package mirror
[03:49] <jordan> FearBSD, Following the isnsructions minus step 2 ( partitioning ) will work.
[03:50] <Flannel> dan2: right, that looks like a mirror and not a repository, try !source-o-matic
[03:52] <BlueSwirl> does anyone have any experience with dual booting mac os and ubuntu?
[03:52] <avagant> Uptime: 4 hours and 38 minutes
[03:52] <FearBSD> jordan: you know a program which can be used to make ext2 from windows?
[03:52] <Flannel> !tell BlueSwirl about dualboot
[03:52] <BlueSwirl> ooh, cheers :D
[03:52] <FearBSD> jordan: i decided to have persistance
[03:53] <skeith> Has there been a decision about firefox in Ubuntu?
[03:54] <Ruffles> skeith: it's been updated today and it still keeps the name and logo without the fox...
[03:54] <tritium> skeith: what do you mean?
[03:54] <jordan> FearBSD, I have no clue, you might want to just create withought persistence, install Ubuntu, and then add the ext2 partition ( it will 'just work' once you add the partition even though you didn't have it when you set it up )
[03:54] <BlueSwirl> oops, Flannel, can you send me those links again?
[03:55] <arnducky> Have they fixed the (*^#%5ing fatal (crash/freeze) bugs in Firefox yet!?
[03:55] <freemind> BlueSwirl: of course I can, please wait a moment
[03:55] <Flannel> skeith: !tell BlueSwirl about dualboot
[03:55] <knix> us.archive.ubuntu.com down?
[03:55] <Flannel> knix: it's not uncommon
[03:55] <jordan> FearBSD, It will take all of 10 minutes to install Ubuntu, then you can add the partition from there easily with gparted.
[03:56] <bsnider> hans reiser has been busted for knocking off his wife
[03:56] <bsnider> http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/10/10/state/n142844D48.DTL
[03:56] <BlueSwirl> um, they didn't pop up that time...
[03:56] <Shaezsche> anyone know how to get the intel 3945 wireless working in dapper? it works fine in many new distros like mandriva
[03:57] <tritium> Shaezsche: the module should auto-load.  Is it not loaded?
[03:57] <FearBSD> jordan: ok good idea to have the ext2 later on
[03:57] <Shaezsche> tritium well if it is autoloading its still not working
[03:57] <FearBSD> jordan: will be an easy job with gparted, thx for your help
[03:57] <mngrif> how do I get amarok to play flac?
[03:57] <Shaezsche> it "might" have something to do with wpa
[03:57] <jordan> FearBSD, Keep me updated, I might want to do this myself if it works :)
[03:57] <Shaezsche> is there a better front end for configuring wireless? and wpa
[03:58] <tritium> Shaezsche: indeed it might.  If you can, get it working without wep or wpa before you enable them.
[03:58] <Shaezsche> is wpa easy to configure
[03:58] <fuffalo> i've got a new ubuntu box that i'm trying to get working with wireless - it seems like my wireless card is detected fine and it detects networks in my area, but when i try to connect it just says "configuring ath0" for a long time, and then doesn't give me errors - but it doens't work
[03:58] <Shaezsche> many new distros have a front end for it
[03:58] <fuffalo> any ideas?
[03:58] <tritium> Shaezsche: network-manager-gnome is pretty decent, and will require wpasupplicant.  Yes, wpa is easy to configure.
[03:58] <tritium> !wireless
[03:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:58] <Shaezsche> how? wpasupp is installed
[03:58] <Shaezsche> i dont want to edit text files i athe that
[03:58] <tritium> see above
[03:59] <BlueSwirl> never mind, got it back. thanks, Flannel
[03:59] <tritium> Shaezsche: then use network-manager
[04:00] <s_spiff> can someone tell me how to fix broken packages?
[04:00] <freemind> s_spiff: apt-get -f install
[04:00] <fuffalo> i've got a new ubuntu box that i'm trying to get working with wireless - it seems like my wireless card is detected fine and it detects networks in my area, but when i try to connect it just says "configuring ath0" for a long time, and then doesn't give me errors - but it doens't work
[04:01] <Shaezsche> network manager doesnt have a wpa box, only wep
[04:01] <freemind> fuffalo: check "dmesg"
[04:01] <fuffalo> freemind, ok one sec
[04:02] <Flannel> !tell Shaezsche about wpa
[04:02] <freemind> Shaezsche: you need wpasupplicant
[04:03] <Lil_Shank> i just used cfdisk to get rid of my windows partition, and i would like to know if theres a way to combine my free partition with my linux partition?
[04:03] <fuffalo> !tell fuffalo about wpa
[04:04] <mzuverink> According to the PLF site, they are no longer going to maintain the mirrors, does that mean no more plf stuff?
[04:04] <grok> Lil_Shank: the linux partitions (ext3 partitions) can
[04:04] <Flannel> mzuverink: you'd have to ask them that
[04:04] <s_spiff> freemind
[04:04] <grok> Lil_shank: sorry, they can't be resized. to make it bigger you'd have to reisntall linux
[04:04] <Lil_Shank> ok
[04:04] <freemind> s_spiff
[04:05] <s_spiff> freemind, i did that. But when I try to uninstall sunjava 5 i get the same error
[04:05] <BlueSwirl> just quick question about dual booting os x and ubuntu... does it matter where my linux partition is on the hard drive? most tutorials say at the start, but mine is at the start
[04:05] <BlueSwirl> *end
[04:05] <s_spiff> to install broken packages.
[04:05] <Lil_Shank> is there a way i can change the Free Space into a new ext3 partition to combine them?
[04:05] <SkyMountaineer> who would like to help me with a sound card issue :)
[04:05] <lansing> is there a number that i can  call for assistance
[04:05] <freemind> s_spiff: try --purge remove
[04:05] <Flannel> Lil_Shank: of course
[04:05] <s_spiff> ok
[04:05] <Flannel> Lil_Shank: any partitioner will turn it into an ext3 partition
[04:06] <host`> umm
[04:06] <Flannel> lansing: you're probably in the best place for help currently
[04:06] <grok> Blueswirl: no it doesn't matter, i have my windows at the start and my linux at around 17 gigs (near the end)
[04:06] <lansing> k
[04:06] <host`> I'm in fluxbox and I just selected to go to "metacity" and I want to go back but can't figure out how to
[04:06] <Lil_Shank> what command in cfdisk woudl i use to change that?
[04:06] <freemind> lansing: where are you from?
[04:06] <lansing> flannel could u possably help me
[04:06] <lansing> canaga
[04:07] <lansing> canada
[04:07] <Flannel> lansing: best way to get help is to ask a question
[04:07] <lansing> i need help wit ubunto
[04:07] <freemind> hehe Flannel
[04:07] <freemind> thats why you joined #ubuntu
[04:07] <bosco> bosco@bosco-laptop:~$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[04:07] <bosco> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[04:07] <bosco> bosco@bosco-laptop:~$
[04:07] <lansing> i need a program that i can use to download music
[04:07] <bosco> what did i do wrong when installing ndiswrapper
[04:08] <freemind> lansing: emule, azureus
[04:08] <lansing> n i dont know how to open the program after installin it
[04:08] <BlueSwirl> grok, thanks! right, lets download 6.10 and back-up my hard drive... :)
[04:08] <host`> bosco, first off, do you really need to install ndiswrapper?
[04:08] <grok> lol
[04:08] <grok> good luck!
[04:08] <Flannel> lansing: download... you'll have to be more specific, you want p2p, bittorrent? what?
[04:08] <BlueSwirl> cheers. laters :)
[04:09] <Lil_Shank> how would i change the free partition to ext3 partition on my harddrive?
[04:09] <bosco> host`, yes i have some wierd wireless chip didnt detect it out of the box with breezy witch i know it wouldnt in that but even in dapper it didnt
[04:09] <lansing> p2p
[04:09] <freemind> Lil_Shank: mkfs.ext3
[04:09] <Lil_Shank> i am using cfdisk
[04:09] <host`> BOSCO, DID you delete the old ndiswrapper?
[04:09] <host`> if it was instaleld
[04:09] <host`> is anyone familiar with fluxbox?
[04:10] <grok> 
[04:10] <bosco> host`,  i think so where is the old one located
[04:10] <bosco> just to make sure
[04:10] <jordan>  qerg qd
[04:10] <jordan>  qer
[04:10] <jordan> v
[04:10] <fildo> host`: remote login aint it ?
[04:10] <jordan> Sorry, Cat walking on keyboard :)
[04:11] <Lil_Shank> can someone tell me if this is what i need to have? http://pastebin.ca/197074
[04:11] <babo> what's the command to look at linux memory again ... d'oh ?
[04:11] <freemind> hehehe jordan
[04:11] <SkyMountaineer> ok who can point me in the right direction.. i can get sound via my headphones but not the speaker ?
[04:12] <Flannel> !tell lansing about frostwire
[04:12] <Ropechoborra> Where should i go to change the Splash-image?
[04:12] <strobedream> SkyMountaineer: bad speakers?
[04:12] <Flannel> host`: #fluxbox has people familiar with it ;)
[04:12] <lansing> will frostwire work for ubuntu
[04:12] <freemind> !tell Flannel about SNMP
[04:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about SNMP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:12] <Lil_Shank> frostwire works on my ubuntu
[04:12] <bosco> lansing, yes ti will
[04:12] <SkyMountaineer> strobedream: laptop dual boots and windows works fine
[04:12] <Flannel> lansing: yes, read the link ubotu gave you
[04:12] <Lil_Shank> but you need the java for it
[04:12] <bosco> lansing, go get automatix
[04:12] <bosco> 2
[04:12] <lansing> ok thanx
[04:12] <Flannel> bosco: do not recommend automatix here.
[04:13] <lansing> wats that
[04:13] <bosco> Flannel, never mind me
[04:13] <strobedream> SkyMountaineer: weird what kind of lappy?
[04:13] <morphycs> is there a winimage clone for linux?
[04:13] <Flannel> lansing: you don't want it
[04:13] <Ropechoborra> Where should i go to change the Splash-image?
[04:13] <lansing> ok
[04:13] <SkyMountaineer> strobedream: toshiba tecra A8
[04:13] <strobedream> hmm
[04:13] <strobedream> thats odd
[04:13] <Lil_Shank> if one partition reads Linux and the other reads Linux ext3, can they or are they combined?
[04:13] <strobedream> Usually laptops dont do that kind ofstuff
[04:14] <SkyMountaineer> yea tell me about it drove me nutts and i thought i would try it and i get sound
[04:14] <Lil_Shank> can they be*
[04:14] <casfindad> Hi everyone, I'm having trouble entering podcasts into rhythmbox. Anyone else?
[04:14] <strobedream> I would that that control via the speakers/headphones would be hardwarenot software
[04:14] <Flannel> !tell Ropechoborra about splash
[04:14] <jordan> How can I map a key to be eqivilent to pressing the right mouse button ( I am on a mac and need a way to right click )?
[04:14] <strobedream> *think that
[04:15] <SkyMountaineer> yea i tried different settings but can not gt it
[04:15] <Lil_Shank> if one partition reads Linux and the other reads Linux ext3, can they be or are they combined?
[04:15] <Xappe> jordan: on ppc ubuntu the thefault key for right click is F12
[04:15] <strobedream> SkyMountaineer: no idea. I have never seen that before much less heard about it.
[04:15] <Xappe> *default
[04:15] <grok> Lil_shank: is the one labeled linux called linux swap?
[04:15] <Geoffrey2> Lil_Shank, ext3 can't be resized once it's created, from what I've read on here
[04:15] <Lil_Shank> http://pastebin.ca/197074
[04:15] <Lil_Shank> this is what it looks like
[04:16] <grok> Lil_shank: what geoffrey says is true
[04:16] <lansing> do i save it to disk
[04:16] <jordan> Xappe, I am on a macbook pro.
[04:16] <morphycs> how to edit disk images ?
[04:16] <Xappe> jordan: ah
[04:16] <Flannel> morphycs: you want to make your own ISO? or what?
[04:16] <jordan> Xappe, Can you help?
[04:16] <morphycs> Flannel, i've a floppy disk image tha i want to edit
[04:17] <Xappe> jordan: no, not really...sorry
[04:18] <fildo> to restart sound ? its /etc/init.d/alsa guys ?
[04:18] <Lil_Shank> grok, this is what my hdd partitions look like http://pastebin.ca/197074
[04:18] <grok> Lil_shank: i'll have a look
[04:18] <lansing> it came up wit an error for frostwire
[04:18] <Lil_Shank> grok, thanks
[04:18] <lansing> it says it cant open it
[04:18] <morphycs> how to edit disk images ?
[04:19] <Flannel> lansing: did you follow all the instructions on that page?  what error does it give you?
[04:19] <paolob> Hi guys! When is edgy release due? thank you!
[04:19] <brian98> !schedule
[04:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[04:19] <Geoffrey2> Lil_Shank, what you CAN do, however, is to create another ext3 partition and then mount it to an empty directory on your first ext3 partition, so going into that directory takes you to the second partition
[04:19] <lansing> canot open archive file
[04:20] <fildo> !alsa
[04:20] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[04:20] <Flannel> lansing: You've installed java?
[04:20] <grok> Lil_shank: no they can't be combined...the linux ext3 is the partition your linux os is installed on, and i *think* the second "linux partition" (its a linux swap) is kind of like extra ram
[04:20] <lansing> yes
[04:20] <Lil_Shank> Geoffrey2, how would i use cfdisk to create a new ext3 partition and mount it?
[04:20] <Geoffrey2> Lil_Shank, I've never used cfdisk, sorry
[04:21] <Lil_Shank> Geoffrey2, thanks anyways :)
[04:21] <lansing> could be rong jave
[04:21] <lansing> wat site do i get it
[04:21] <Flannel> !tell lansing about frostwire
[04:21] <psusi> how does X normally auto configure itself and how can I force it to do so again, and regenerate /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[04:21] <Flannel> lansing: that page goes over it all, you'll be using this java though
[04:21] <Flannel> !tell lansing about java
[04:22] <psusi> I ask because I upgraded my video card recntly and X won't use any modes > 648 x 480 because it says the hsync values are out of range on all the other modes
[04:22] <paolob> !help
[04:22] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[04:23] <avagant> !me
[04:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:23] <avagant> Still working on that bash script. :(
[04:23] <whyso> can u resize ext3 partitian?
[04:23] <Lil_Shank> whyso, i've been told you cant
[04:23] <grok> whyso: no, ext3 partitions cannot be resized
[04:23] <psusi> whyso: I believe gparted can do that
[04:24] <whyso> ah ok, what about rizer?
[04:24] <psusi> reiser?  I think gparted can handle that as well
[04:24] <grok> psusi, whyso: no ext3 partition can be resized. you can resize your "windows" partition, but not an ext3. ever.
[04:24] <tamacracker> Can someone help me remount my HDD?... This is the 2nd time it randomly unmounted itself
[04:25] <psusi> grok: why not ext3?  I could swear parted supports ext for sure
[04:25] <paolob> !search *
[04:25] <ubotu> Found: packages,ati-#ubuntu-xgl,picard,fglrx-#ubuntu-xgl,kudos,buntudot,kdesu,pong,password
[04:25] <whyso> sorry didnt understand psusi can reiser be resized?
[04:25] <lansing> iam confused
[04:25] <psusi> wyso: I'm prety sure, yes... reiser can even increase its size on the fly with some aid from fdisk and a remount
[04:26] <grok> psusi: i don't konw, but i've read on countless sites that ext3's can't be resized. don't know why. also i've tried it, it didn't work. :)
[04:26] <tamacracker> Could not show 'file:///media/illriginal/My%20Downloads' Details: The location or file could not be found.
[04:26] <psusi> grok: you tried booting from the live cd and using gparted?
[04:26] <whyso> ah ok, well whats better about ext3 then?
[04:26] <psusi> whyso: not much
[04:26] <efrun> Is the version of gnome in Edgy any faster then dapper?  I had to switch to xfce due to extremely poor response from Gnome.
[04:27] <grok> psusi: i've tried qtparted, not gparted. i might be wrong but i thought that ext3's were just unchangable
[04:27] <psusi> grok: what about ext2?  I'm SURE parted can do that
[04:27] <Flannel> efrun: #ubuntu+1 for edgy questions
[04:27] <grok> psusi: never tried it, sorry
[04:27] <psusi> and ext3 is just ext2 + a journal... tune2fs can swap a partition back and forth between 2 and 3 easy
[04:27] <avagant> how has your experience been with xfce, i found mine to be really glitchy.
[04:27] <whyso> one question leads to 2 :) why isnt reiser the defualt, and how hard is it to change to it (from clean install)
[04:27] <Flannel> whyso: changing requires complete backup/etc, be easier to just reinstall as reiser.
[04:27] <psusi> whyso: it isn't the default because it is newer
[04:27] <avagant> that's why i'm using gnome, i downloaded the iso and it just didn't do anything i wanted it to.
[04:28] <psusi> and yea, changing generally requires a backup/reformat/restore
[04:28] <efrun> avagant, it's not much better, but it is better.  Honestly, Suse with KDE was very quick... but it comes with its downs as well.
[04:28] <brandon> anyone worked with NAS's? I can mount it but only root as access to it, can't figure out how to make it available to other users
[04:28] <whyso> oh ok thanks, so you guys reccomend it over ext3?
[04:28] <avagant> I wanted to try suse, but i downloaded the iso wrong or something and couldn't get it to load.
[04:29] <avagant> Or maybe that was freebsd, at either rate I'm back on ubuntu.
[04:29] <funkja> Is there something similar to Mac's Garageband for linux? Or at least something that will let me play a midi keyboard?
[04:29] <psusi> brandon: when mounting windows shares the mount is restricted to be accessible to only one local user by default... the default user is root
[04:29] <efrun> if you do try Suse, make sure you get the Smart Package Manager.  Yast is horrible in 10.1
[04:29] <shriphani> funkja, audacity ?
[04:29] <psusi> brandon: so change the user= in the mount options to your account if that is what you want
[04:29] <tamacracker> Can someone please help me remount my secondary hard drive?
[04:29] <psusi> whyso: I run reiserfs
[04:29] <avagant> Well for now I'm not having any trouble with Ubuntu.
[04:30] <funkja> shriphani: that is what i was thinking too but I wasn't sure
[04:30] <avagant> efrun: I've reinstalled gnome so many times that it's all old hat to me now.
[04:30] <avagant> efrun: Or rather Ubuntu.
[04:30] <psusi> so anyone know how to reconfigure X to detect new hardware and regenerate /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[04:30] <shriphani> funkja, audacity is powerful
[04:30] <tamacracker> What's more stable than Ubuntu?
[04:30] <shriphani> tamacracker, huh ?
[04:31] <avagant> I can mount a drive, and check this and check that it sucks I had to learn this way but..
[04:31] <lansing> i need  assistance
[04:31] <avagant> I guess when you throw yourself into something.
[04:31] <grok> whatcha need lansing?
[04:31] <tamacracker> I'm findin that Ubuntu's becoming unstable... atleast with keepin the secondary hard drive mounted.
[04:31] <Flannel> psusi: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:31] <raich> tamacracker: wjhy's that?
[04:31] <Flannel> tamacracker: is it in your fstab?
[04:31] <brandon> psusi: tried that and root only had access still, "mount -t cifs //192.168.13.176/public /mnt/store2 -o rw,username=media,password=media,file_mode=0755,dir_mode=0755,user=media" (media is a local user and the user on the nas)
[04:32] <shriphani> brb
[04:32] <psusi> Flannel ahh, thanks... tried like every other X package but that one ;)
[04:32] <tamacracker> It just keeps randomly unmounting my drive for no reason
[04:32] <avagant> I just do simple mounts, I can't help you there. haha
[04:32] <raich> tamacracker: is it in fstab?
[04:32] <psusi> brandon is your user name "media" or "brandon" or something?
[04:32] <avagant> tamacracker: I hope I never have that problem myself, it took me long enough to learn HOW to mount.
[04:32] <brandon> media
[04:32] <psusi> hrm... that should do it
[04:33] <funkja> shriphani: Audicy does not support playing recording or editing midi files
[04:33] <tamacracker> raich how do i check to see if it's in fstab?
[04:33] <raich> cat /etc/fstab
[04:33] <brandon> psusi: drwxrwx--- 2 root  11578  0 2006-10-10 21:54 store2
[04:33] <raich> check if it's there
[04:33] <raich> you have to know the partition name
[04:33] <avagant> the original partion name?
[04:33] <tamacracker> /dev/hda1     /media/illriginal     ntfs-3g     silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf8
[04:34] <SkyMountaineer> how do it install kde in ubuntu ? i goto SPM and it  tells me i can not
[04:34] <avagant> like mine was /dev/hdb1 and it became /media/hdb1
[04:34] <tamacracker> raich: /dev/hda1     /media/illriginal     ntfs-3g     silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf8
[04:34] <avagant> What's the 3g stand for?
[04:34] <raich> tamacracker: there it is, you only have one harddrive mounted
[04:34] <r0nn> hi guys
[04:34] <gu014> does anyone have a up to date howto for configuring dvd decrypter?
[04:35] <tamacracker> raich
[04:35] <ifconfig> I'm using Samba, to share folders between Linux and Windows .. I've shared a folder in my linux box, and tried to access the folder, I've shared, It asked me a username/password, I've etnered it, and logged in find -- Is there a way to get the username/password dialog box again, after someone tries to access that particular folder in windows?
[04:35] <avagant> 3gb?
[04:35] <tamacracker> i have both mounted
[04:35] <raich> search the name of this second your trying to mount and write it in there
[04:35] <tamacracker> hdb1 and hda1
[04:35] <avagant> I sure hope my first one is mounted, haha.
[04:35] <raich> i only see one..
[04:35] <tamacracker> one hard drive is dedicated to my ubuntu which is ext3 partition
[04:35] <avagant> You guys are making me more confused than I already am.
[04:35] <avagant> Haha.
[04:35] <raich> hmm try writing it again, as root of course
[04:35] <CaptainMorgan> what file is the command 'more' found in? Im using cygwin and I need to install it..
[04:35] <raich> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[04:36] <Flannel> raich: gksudo
[04:36] <avagant> what exactly does the mtab do?
[04:36] <avagant> !mtab
[04:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mtab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <CaptainMorgan> !more
[04:36] <raich> Flannel: prompt sudo is faster =)
[04:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about more - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <Keaton> I've got a problem installing Kubuntu on this laptop of mine. It's a  Dell Latitude, Pentium II, and whenever I try to start the installation disk it gives me I/O errors when it trys to mount the filesystem.
[04:36] <tamacracker> raich ok what do i do now in this?
[04:36] <Flannel> raich: it's wrong though.
[04:36] <raich> Flannel: why?
[04:36] <Flannel> Keaton: did you burn it yourself?
[04:36] <raich> tamacracker: let me see
[04:36] <psusi> mtab is a file used by the mount program to keep track of what filesystems you currently have mounted
[04:37] <Flannel> raich: because it doesn't set up the environment correctly for graphical programs
[04:37] <avagant> Ahhhh.
[04:37] <tamacracker> what's the website i use in order to post up my information?
[04:37] <Flannel> !paste
[04:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:37] <raich> tamacracker: just follow the comments, above each column
[04:37] <Keaton> Flannel: yes, and I've used this copy a few times before. It's a little dusty, but it's scratch free.
[04:37] <funkja> Why do not all the screen resolutions that i have enabled in my xorg.conf show up in the Screen Resolution prefence window?
[04:37] <raich> Flannel: didn't know that, thanks
[04:38] <tamacracker> /dev/hda1     /media/illriginal     ntfs-3g     silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf8,no_def_opts,allow_other
[04:38] <tamacracker> /dev/hdb1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[04:38] <Flannel> Keaton: if you've used it a few times, it probably isn't the disk then.  but, not scratches, burn speed.
[04:38] <O2> hello
[04:38] <tamacracker> /dev/hdb5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[04:38] <tamacracker> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[04:38] <wickedpuppy> O2, ... there you are here again ...
[04:38] <tamacracker> that's what I have
[04:38] <O2> can anyone tell me why my realplayer plays rm file so slow?
[04:38] <Flannel> tamacracker: don't paste here.  that's what the pastebin is for
[04:38] <Keaton> Flannel: I thought that might be it. thanks.
[04:39] <avagant> The burnt discs don't last very long.
[04:39] <raich> tamacracker: you didn't say it already was in fstab
[04:39] <goodguy> Hi, Good night! I need to know how to use XGL (or the new technology for 3D eye candy) in Ubuntu 6.10 with ATI Card
[04:39] <avagant> I've had to burn 2 seperate ubuntu discs.
[04:39] <Flannel> goodguy: #ubuntu-xgl or #ubuntu+1
[04:39] <raich> you only copied the first line..
[04:39] <avagant> Then again I've reinstalled Ubuntu about 7 times.
[04:39] <tamacracker> :\ yeah that first line was the hard drive that's for my windows, which is Ubuntu's secondary drive.
[04:40] <tamacracker> my window's hard drive on ubuntu is for media purposes only because the windows drive is alot bigger
[04:40] <O2> wickedpuppy: yes, hi
[04:40] <Flannel> tamacracker: it's most likely a fault in ntfs-3g then.  Which is still experimental
[04:40] <avagant> what's the 3g stand for though?
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> O2, as for real player ... ask the real corp ... honestly i don't use it
[04:41] <fildo> google it
[04:41] <tamacracker> Flannel then what can I do so I don't bother with experimental crap
[04:41] <avagant> I haven't used real player in like....5 years.
[04:41] <Flannel> avagant: no idea.  They had a naming contest thing, I think.
[04:41] <O2> wickedpuppy:  there's one thing different, I am in real ubuntu system now, not through vmware
[04:41] <Flannel> tamacracker: there is no stable NTFS writing available at the moment.
[04:41] <wickedpuppy> O2, great!!!! started screwing it up yet ?
[04:41] <tamacracker> crap so it's just gonna keep going and coming
[04:41] <CaptainMorgan> what file is the command 'more' found in? Im using cygwin and I need to install it..
[04:41] <Mukunda> Hmm, so Hans got arrested, hmm.
[04:42] <tamacracker> it just started this week... and I don't know why it started up
[04:42] <O2> wickedpuppy:   no, but when I play avi video file, the default player says there's no decodec
[04:42] <Flannel> tamacracker: most likely, yes.  You could try updating your ntfs-3g (and submit a bug report to them too, they can't fix bugs they don't know about)
[04:42] <wickedpuppy> O2, get vlc player
[04:42] <avagant> So, I don't want to get rid of firefox, but i'm thinking of switching browsers here real soon.
[04:42] <tamacracker> Flannel how would I be able to update ntfs-3g?
[04:42] <wickedpuppy> !restricted
[04:42] <O2> wickedpuppy:  oh?
[04:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:42] <grok> how hard would it be to switch from gnome to xfce. by that i mean removeing gnome plus most of the applications taht come with it. is there one action i could do to take care of it all?
[04:43] <avagant> remove purge gnome-deskto-environment?
[04:43] <wickedpuppy> O2, and look at ubotu links for more multimedia joy on ubuntu .... yes pls get vlc player its on synaptic if you got universe/multiverse
[04:43] <avagant> I don't think that'll get rid of everything though.
[04:43] <grok> avagant: how sure are you about that. no offense
[04:43] <Flannel> tamacracker: However you installed it, you'd download a new versoin, and install that.
[04:43] <avagant> grok: I'm not.
[04:43] <Flannel> tamacracker: ntfs-3g isn't provided by ubuntu, I have no idea.
[04:43] <grok> avagant: ok, thanks, i'll try it though
[04:44] <avagant> grok: It was just a suggestion, I haven't ever tried that myself, I've had a hard enough time getting gnome installed.
[04:44] <tamacracker> already then...
[04:44] <avagant> Or rather Ubuntu.
[04:44] <craigbass1976> Anyone installed ndiswrapper?  My card is supported, but to configure things I need to know where the driver is, and the ubuntu FAQ I'm reading doesn't say where it might be.  I'm assuming that since my card is supported that the driver is somewhere on my system
[04:44] <O2> wickedpuppy:  I would like to use apt-get  :-P
[04:44] <grok> avagant: alright, i'll look into it further, thank you
[04:44] <avagant> Your welcome I guess?
[04:44] <avagant> WHOOHOO! I helped my first person!
[04:44] <avagant> Hahah
[04:44] <tamacracker> How can I remount my drive
[04:44] <grok> lol
[04:45] <wickedpuppy> O2, then pls use ... no need to ask ... :P
[04:45] <kromel> lol
[04:45] <avagant> I need all the help I can get, I don't know how I'm offering advice.
[04:45] <craigbass1976> avagant, congrats.  Just be sure you don't become crotchety like people in some other linux chats.
[04:45] <tamacracker> nevermind
[04:45] <O2> wickedpuppy:  lol
[04:45] <tamacracker> im outs
[04:45] <avagant> craigbass1976: Hahah.
[04:45] <avagant> craigbass1976: Nah, I'm old but not crotchety.
[04:45] <lansing> ive downloaded java and it says cant open it
[04:46] <craigbass1976> avagant, Ok mr fancy pants, where's the driver (.inf) file for my broadcom wireless card?
[04:46] <wickedpuppy> how are you opening it ?
[04:46] <avagant> I...
[04:46] <avagant> I plead the fifth.
[04:46] <ifconfig> I'm using Samba, to share folders between Linux and Windows .. I've shared a folder in my linux box, and tried to access the folder, I've shared, It asked me a username/password, I've etnered it, and logged in find -- Is there a way to get the username/password dialog box again, after someone tries to access that particular folder in windows?
[04:46] <O2> wickedpuppy:  only download vlc ? what about other relatives?
[04:46] <avagant> That's a googlin' question I think.
[04:47] <craigbass1976> avagant, What?  What kind of tech support are you?!!! :)
[04:47] <avagant> So I'm still scared about alsa.
[04:47] <lansing> does anyone know a toll free number to a rep
[04:47] <wickedpuppy> O2, relatives ? you mean codecs ?? no need to worry about things .. just get .. and try to play .. if not we will see what codec you need ..
[04:47] <avagant> Haha craigbass1976.
[04:47] <O2> wickedpuppy: ok, thanks!
[04:47] <FearBSD> jordan: you still here?`
[04:48] <lansing> i need to talk to a person on the phone so they can help me step by step
[04:48] <Flannel> lansing: how did you download sun java?
[04:48] <avagant> My sound works absolutely fine right now, but I'm afraid if I DONT put an .asoundrc file or do anything it won't work.
[04:48] <O2> wickedpuppy:  I am using xchat, but find it not so friendly as mIRC in windows
[04:48] <waspius> hi...my computer lately is really going slow..can anyone help in what i can do?
[04:48] <sherirao> is ubuntu becoming famous bcoz it is doing free-ship ?
[04:48] <lansing> throu that site that ubotu told me
[04:48] <CaptainMorgan> what file is the command 'more' found in? Im using cygwin and I need to install it..
[04:48] <Flannel> sherirao: no
[04:48] <avagant> lansing: Did you try the ubuntuforums?
[04:48] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: you should ask in cygwin places.  I think it's in a base package though.
[04:48] <Flannel> lansing: so, the apt-get one?
[04:48] <wickedpuppy> O2, you are not used to it ... i found it first time i use xchat too ... its different looking but you will get used to it later
[04:49] <efrancolaporte> hey i downloaded a .sh file anyone knows how i can install it
[04:49] <sherirao> then what makes ubuntu different
[04:49] <O2> wickedpuppy:  I can't type wick and press TAB to auto-complete
[04:49] <efrancolaporte> it's crossover office
[04:49] <lansing> yes i dont under stand them iam new to ubuntu
[04:49] <wickedpuppy> O2, yes you can ...
[04:49] <efrancolaporte> its a *.sh, is there anyway to install it, through the console perhaps
[04:49] <avagant> lansing: You probably would be able to get like 90 percent of your answers from there.
[04:49] <efrancolaporte> (yes im n00b)
[04:49] <FearBSD> what's wrong when i get this error on booting the livecd: erro: can
[04:49] <Elephant> efrancolaporte:  Probably not.  I'd run it in the console by typing ./filename.sh
[04:49] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: you might also try less... see if that's installed
[04:49] <wickedpuppy> efrancolaporte, sh file.sh
[04:49] <O2> oh,,, yes I can now.  but couldn't yesterday!
[04:49] <FearBSD> can't access TTY; job control turned off?
[04:49] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, yes, less works
[04:49] <efrancolaporte> jill try both
[04:50] <Elephant> but make sure it has permissions to execute first
[04:50] <efrancolaporte> k ill try both
[04:50] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: so, just use that
[04:50] <lansing> i need to talk to a human voice to voice not by browser
[04:50] <Elephant> chmod u+x file.sh
[04:50] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, so where is less installed ?
[04:50] <CaptainMorgan> maybe I could throw more in ther etoo
[04:50] <Elephant> which less
[04:50] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: /your-cygwin-path/bin/
[04:50] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, thanks
[04:50] <avagant> lansing: As far as java or flash goes go to the forum and look up "desktop customization guide" and the topics and ine one topic it'll tell you how to download flash and java.
[04:50] <avagant> lansing: And how to add repositories, get codecs and so on.
[04:51] <avagant> I wish I could say this because I was a pro at Ubuntu/Linux.
[04:51] <FearBSD> wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:51] <goodguy> Hi, Good night! I need to know how to use XGL (or the new technology for 3D eye candy) in Ubuntu 6.10 with ATI Card
[04:51] <avagant> Here lansing I'll link you to it.
[04:51] <fildo> isnt there something like easyubuntu ?
[04:52] <fildo> that u can use , to install flash / java and additional fonts ?
[04:52] <Flannel> goodguy: #ubuntu+1 and #ubuntu-xgl are the places to ask
[04:52] <efrancolaporte> the sh command worked
[04:52] <efrancolaporte> thank you :)
[04:52] <wickedpuppy> efrancolaporte, cause your file.sh isn't +x ... nvm whatever works :P
[04:52] <craigbass1976> How do I knwo if I'm using dapper or whatever
[04:52] <wickedpuppy> craigbass1976, cat /etc/issue
[04:52] <avagant> lansing: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186792
[04:52] <Flannel> craigbass1976: lsb_release -a
[04:52] <fildo> craigbass1976: uname -ar in bash
[04:52] <fildo> or that
[04:53] <Flannel> fildo: uname won't give you that, just kernel version ;)
[04:53] <fildo> nice command Flannel
[04:53] <fildo> thnx for that
[04:53] <avagant> lansing: That one topic will show you how to get all the codecs to play mp3's ect, flash, java, microsoft truecore fonts and various other things.
[04:53] <wickedpuppy> fildo, i why uname -ar ? -a is all ...-r is kernel .. if you got -a there will also be kernel in it ..
[04:54] <Flannel> avagant: we prefer the wiki, which are all linked via ubotu factoids, they're generally more concise than the forums
[04:54] <fildo> wickedpuppy: just habbit from redhat
[04:54] <wickedpuppy> fildo, i see :P
[04:54] <wickedpuppy> fildo, you mean uname is different there ?
[04:54] <avagant> Flannel: Yah I know.
[04:54] <fildo> lsb_release -a < mental note
[04:54] <fildo> good command
[04:54] <avagant> Flannel: It was just the first thing that came to mind, I've done this so many times.
[04:55] <fildo> not really
[04:55] <slop> is there a way to change how long your computer stay's idle before the hard drives power down?
[04:55] <fildo> id probably look into acpi for that slop
[04:55] <FearBSD> are there any important changes in the file isolinux.cfg in edgy?
[04:56] <O2> wickedpuppy:  could I use ghost to backup my linux system installation?
[04:56] <craigbass1976> thanks wickedpuppy Flannel and fildo .  It seems I'm using dapper
[04:56] <slop> fildo, acpi?
[04:56] <Flannel> FearBSD: #ubuntu+1
[04:56] <shriphani> wee fluxbox rocks
[04:56] <avagant> craigbass1976: Welcome to our world!
[04:56] <fildo> shriphani: indeed
[04:56] <kromel> !fluxbox
[04:56] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[04:56] <wickedpuppy> O2, norton ghost ? no idea if it could backup ext3 ... ask norton ?
[04:56] <avagant> I didn't like fluxbox, well I did but I would probably have to spend too much time trying to figure it out.
[04:57] <O2> wickedpuppy:  oh, so how could I recover my linux
[04:57] <avagant> I wanted to have transparent terminals just like everyone else :(
[04:57] <craigbass1976> Right.  I'm not so sure about the root and sudo though; I'm so used to Cent and Solaris.  I start things up in ubuntu and think I need the root pass, only to find that I need my regular user pass.  Weird
[04:57] <fildo> avagant: look in schema
[04:57] <wickedpuppy> O2, there are a lot of ways .. one is backup using dd .. another is putting /home and /etc in different partitions ... and so on and on
[04:57] <slop> fildo, what's acpi?
[04:57] <wickedpuppy> !acpi
[04:57] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (dapper), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[04:57] <Flannel> !backup
[04:57] <mankie> hello
[04:57] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[04:57] <mankie> hola
[04:58] <wickedpuppy> sweet
[04:58] <avagant> I'm afraid to mess around with anything else on my computer though.
[04:58] <slop> ah...thanks :)
[04:58] <Flannel> O2: thats for you
[04:58] <mankie> alguien sabe donde estoy
[04:58] <Flannel> !es
[04:58] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:58] <avagant> !fr
[04:58] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:58] <mankie> ahh, ok, thank you
[04:58] <wickedpuppy> thats not fr
[04:58] <fildo> stop flooding the bot
[04:58] <fildo> !
[04:58] <avagant> I know.
[04:58] <avagant> I just didn't know if there was one.
[04:58] <wickedpuppy> ...
[04:59] <mankie> sorry, anyone could explain me what it is
[04:59] <mankie> i'm new in ubuntu
[04:59] <lansing> is there ne way that some one can show me how to install these programs cus that forum thing dont tell me a dam thing
[04:59] <tahorg> wickedpuppy: it is.
[04:59] <mankie> it's my first day
[04:59] <fildo> mankie: congrats! n welcome
[04:59] <wickedpuppy> tahorg, french ?
[04:59] <slop> wickedpuppy, acpi didn't do anything....it just went to a new prompt
[04:59] <lansing> its all jiberish to me
[04:59] <mankie> thank you
[04:59] <tahorg> wickedpuppy: yes
[04:59] <avagant> mankie: Don't do anything else until you read up on things.
[04:59] <wickedpuppy> slop, ask the guy who was helping ya before ?
[04:59] <shriphani> lansing, sudo aptitude install ......
[05:00] <mankie> i'm chatting in the server irc-hispano, i think
[05:00] <fildo> lol
[05:00] <fildo> nooo
[05:00] <slop> oh sorry lol
[05:00] <mankie> can i connect in this server from here?
[05:00] <wickedpuppy> tahorg, you are a french in india ?
[05:00] <tahorg> wickedpuppy: I'm not in india, I'm in brazil.
[05:00] <slop> fildo, its cool...i'll ask in #lfd
[05:00] <slop> thanks for the pointer :)
[05:00] <fildo> lfd ?
[05:00] <lansing> like i said jiberish
[05:00] <fildo> linuxfordummies!
[05:00] <wickedpuppy> tahorg, i see ... your domain is .in ...
[05:00] <mankie> i'm trying new things here in my ubuntu
[05:00] <avagant> That's what I need.
[05:01] <mankie> i think that it's good
[05:01] <lansing> yah fildo thats about it
[05:01] <mankie> interesting
[05:01] <mankie> i have a lot of things here
[05:01] <mankie> i don't need windows
[05:01] <tahorg> wickedpuppy: yep, that's a 'pun'. Jardin means garden in french.
[05:01] <O2> wickedpuppy:   do you know about problems of unicode languages?
[05:01] <mankie> the video, sound, internet, chat
[05:01] <wickedpuppy> tahorg, je sais un peu francis ... mais .in = india domin ...
[05:02] <avagant> I have a question, has anyone successfully gotten lastfm to work with alsa?
[05:02] <wickedpuppy> O2, eh ah .. you shouldn't have it on ubuntu ..
[05:02] <shriphani> down wi windblows Ex- Pee
[05:02] <tahorg> wickedpuppy: yes, I know, but it's just a tld. Anyone can buy a .in
[05:03] <wickedpuppy> tahorg, but .in can't be sold well .. i got linuxworld.in or something like that when .in opened up last year .. well its off-topic ... thanks for explaining dude
[05:03] <O2> wickedpuppy:  I have a DVD with some directories name in Chinese, and they're displayed as all "??????"
[05:04] <lansing> this is the error that come up wen i open java Could not open "sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1_all.deb"
[05:04] <lansing> Archive type not supported.
[05:04] <wickedpuppy> O2, cause you don't have chinese language installed ?
[05:04] <O2> wickedpuppy:  I can view and input chinese.
[05:04] <avagant> lansing: Did you put dpkg -i in front of that?
[05:04] <wickedpuppy> no idea .. i am in singapore ... 80% chinese here ...
[05:04] <shriphani> lansing, dpkg -i package.deb
[05:04] <tahorg> littlerxa: nobody cares. You can drink as much as you want, we don't care.
[05:05] <littlerxa> jajaja I'm singing :P
[05:05] <avagant> also make sure you cd to the correct directory.
[05:05] <Captain_Redbeard> Hmm... does anybody have any experience configuring the graphical aspects of grub? You see, there is a white frame around the menu entries I'd like to get rid of since it ruins the impression of my splashimage...
[05:05] <wickedpuppy> O2, maybe its not chinese .. chinese itself has a lot of dialects ..
[05:05] <O2> wickedpuppy: I have installed chinese support
[05:05] <littlerxa> nobody cares what u don't listen music xDDD
[05:05] <lansing> no i installed it from the ubuntu forum thingy
[05:05] <avagant> Hmm.
[05:05] <wickedpuppy> O2, ask in hongkong whats chinese and they will tell you its cantonese ... taiwan another ... mainland china another ..
[05:06] <fildo> !java
[05:06] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:06] <shriphani> lansing, cd to the dir where you have the deb....... udo dpkg -i !@#$.deb
[05:07] <Elephant> wahoo, SSH server is now installed :D
[05:07] <O2> wickedpuppy: only the cd-rom has the problem! other hard-drive partitions's chinese file name could display well.
[05:07] <Flannel> shriphani, lansing, no.  install it from the repositories, don't install it locally.
[05:07] <wickedpuppy> O2, there is #ubuntu-cn ... ask there ... i don't use any other language than english so can't help ya there
[05:07] <wickedpuppy> just say ni hao mah ?
[05:07] <wickedpuppy> :P
[05:07] <wickedpuppy> you will be fine
[05:07] <O2> wickedpuppy:  OK, thanks all the same
[05:08] <shriphani> lansing, enable multiverse and sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[05:08] <O2> wickedpuppy:  lol... you are Chinese?
[05:08] <wickedpuppy> O2, no prob .. i am burmese in singapore ... my girl is chinese though
[05:08] <avagant> Yah that's what I was going to suggested shriphani.
[05:09] <lansing> linux for DUMMIES thats me
[05:09] <AngryElf> does anyone know how to get optical-audio output working?
[05:09] <avagant> lansing: Don't worry we've all been there.
[05:09] <lansing> well thats me now
[05:10] <avagant> lansing: Did I mentioned I've reinstalled 6 times in the past 2 weeks?
[05:10] <Dr_willis> heh - You are doing better then average then...
[05:10] <lansing> yah me to ive switch op several times
[05:10] <avagant> Yah, me too.
[05:11] <avagant> Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Ubuntu, Gentoo.
[05:11] <lansing> could ne one control my desktop and help me
[05:11] <fildo> kubuntu is da best
[05:11] <fildo> :p
[05:11] <raich> Xubuntu
[05:11] <Dr_willis> BubbaUbuntu
[05:11] <bless> hi i update my ubuntu breezy to dapper , one hour ago the download finish and it still saying  "preconfiguring packs"  is normal that this "preconfiguring" take 1 hour?
[05:12] <avagant> bless: Probably not.
[05:12] <bless> avagant, what can i do than?
[05:12] <avagant> I don't know usually if it doesn't work for me I just throw the disc back in.
[05:13] <avagant> I don't know if I'm downloading the iso wrong.
[05:13] <bless> how can u do that?
[05:13] <efrun> downloading an iso wrong?
[05:13] <avagant> Well not downloading it, but burning.
[05:13] <bless> no
[05:14] <bless> i update via apt-get
[05:14] <avagant> Hmm.
[05:14] <avagant> Connection died?
[05:14] <bless> no
[05:14] <bless> this step dont need conection
[05:15] <bless> and i am here lol
[05:15] <avagant> Honestly I don't know.
[05:15] <bless> ok , thanks than
[05:15] <bless> hi i update my ubuntu breezy to dapper , one hour ago the download finish and it still saying  "preconfiguring packs"  is normal that this "preconfiguring" take 1 hour?
[05:15] <Shadow_mil> Help... I have broken sudo!
[05:15] <lansing> avagant could u help me by remote connect
[05:15] <avagant> I don't know how to do that, and I don't think I can.
[05:15] <avagant> Sorry man :)
[05:15] <bless> noone can help me?
[05:16] <lansing> dam
[05:17] <pike_> Shadow_mil: ?
[05:17] <Elephant> LOL, I just discovered apt-get's Super Cow Powers
[05:17] <Shadow_mil> chuck@ubuntu:/usr$ sudo
[05:17] <Shadow_mil> sudo: must be setuid root
[05:18] <craigbass1976> Is there a log file that tells you about dchp requests you've made?
[05:18] <Flannel> Shadow_mil: is chuck in sudoers?
[05:18] <pike_> Shadow_mil: do you have a livecd or you can set an option at the grub boot to obtain a root shell
[05:18] <Shadow_mil> Flannel: yes
[05:18] <Flannel> Shadow_mil: type groups, admin?
[05:18] <Shadow_mil> pike_: I can get root shell
[05:18] <Shadow_mil> got one
[05:19] <sproingie> Elephant: now try aptitude moo
[05:19] <pike_> Shadow_mil: oh.  well im sleepy now bye
[05:19] <Elephant> I did
[05:19] <Shadow_mil> pike_: !!!!!!!!
[05:19] <Elephant> and then aptitude -v moo
[05:20] <Elephant> and now I think I'm going to cry
[05:20] <sproingie> Elephant: no easter eggs unless you count minesweeper
[05:20] <Elephant> I got to:  aptitude -vvvvvv moo
[05:20] <Elephant> :'(
[05:20] <shriphani> There are no Easter Eggs in this program.
[05:20] <shriphani> lol
[05:20] <Elephant> well
[05:20] <Elephant> aptitude -v moo
[05:20] <Elephant> then aptitude -vv moo
[05:21] <Elephant> and so on up to -vvvvvv
[05:22] <mikeo> anyone here have the ati hdtv wonder?
[05:22] <sproingie> i suppose it's not really an easter egg if it's in the menu
[05:22] <atarimaster> hell0
[05:23] <Shadow_mil> I think I have messed permissions in /usr
[05:23] <Shadow_mil> how can I fix them back?
[05:23] <Shadow_mil> messed up*
[05:23] <atarimaster> i have a little problem with one of my reposotories
[05:24] <wickedpuppy> Shadow_mil, you did chmod -R ?
[05:24] <Shadow_mil> wickedpuppy: well I did   chown -R root /usr
[05:24] <atarimaster> could somebody please help  my
[05:24] <atarimaster> *me
[05:24] <Shadow_mil> now a bunch of things don't work
[05:25] <wickedpuppy> Shadow_mil, why ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
[05:25] <O2> wickedpuppy:  I want a good tool to do notes
[05:25] <Shadow_mil> wickedpuppy: thought root should own them :)
[05:25] <Flannel> Shadow_mil: yep.  That's not surprising.
[05:25] <wickedpuppy> O2, notes .. like ? post-it ?
[05:25] <wickedpuppy> Shadow_mil, well ... ah .... start crying ?
[05:25] <Jack_Sparrow> atarimaster: Use the source-o-matic
[05:25] <atarimaster> 99% [13 Sources gzip 0]  [Waiting for headers]  [Waiting for headers]                                             21.9kB/s 0s
[05:25] <atarimaster> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[05:25] <atarimaster> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Sources
[05:25] <atarimaster>   Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[05:25] <bless> hi i update my ubuntu breezy to dapper , one hour ago the download finish and it still saying  "preconfiguring packs"  is normal that this "preconfiguring" take 1 hour?
[05:25] <atarimaster> thats what i get when i run apt-get update
[05:26] <whyso> so, whats the beef on ext4
[05:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource > atarimaster
[05:26] <Shadow_mil> root@ubuntu:/usr# start crying
[05:26] <lansing> iam tryin to unpack java an it says archive is not supported
[05:26] <Shadow_mil> bash: start: command not found
[05:26] <Shadow_mil> didn't work
[05:26] <wickedpuppy> LOL
[05:26] <O2> wickedpuppy:  I want to write dairy, and remember things
[05:26] <Jack_Sparrow> atarimaster: Did you make the mistake of running Automatix?
[05:26] <Dr_willis> lansing,  unpack?  if you are trying to isntall java - read the !java bot factoid
[05:26] <atarimaster> i don't think so
[05:26] <wickedpuppy> O2, you can write in any text editor and save it ...
[05:26] <Dr_willis> !java
[05:26] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:27] <Jack_Sparrow> atarimaster: You would know..
[05:27] <whyso> just use eclipse
[05:27] <atarimaster> no i didn't then
[05:27] <lansing> done that
[05:27] <bless> hi i update my ubuntu breezy to dapper , one hour ago the download finish and it still saying  "preconfiguring packs"  is normal that this "preconfiguring" take 1 hour?
[05:27] <atarimaster> yep eclipse is great
[05:27] <lansing> still dont kno
[05:27] <O2> wickedpuppy:  no, I want one that can save my things in one file, like a database
[05:28] <Shadow_mil> wickedpuppy: surely their is some why to recover the old settings?
[05:28] <wickedpuppy> O2, ah .. there is of course mysql database ... or you want something like access then openoffice has database .. check out application->office
[05:28] <O2> wickedpuppy:  like a repository
[05:28] <wickedpuppy> Shadow_mil, yes if they know their old settings .....
[05:29] <Shadow_mil> wickedpuppy: I don't ...
[05:29] <wickedpuppy> O2, like a repository ? cvs ?
[05:29] <shuan> anyone know how i can watch dvd's on ubuntu
[05:29] <wickedpuppy> Shadow_mil, thats why .. i don't know a linux command that can redo whatever command did before
[05:29] <wickedpuppy> !dvd
[05:29] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:29] <O2> I mean, a profesisonal software that let you note things that you don't want to forget!
[05:30] <O2>  wickedpuppy: I mean, a profesisonal software that let you note things that you don't want to forget!
[05:30] <wickedpuppy> O2, really ... if i don't want to forget .. i write them down on a paper and keep it somewhere safe .. i don't trust computers for that kind of things ..
[05:30] <wickedpuppy> ok ok .. no idea
[05:30] <Shadow_mil> wickedpuppy: well surely their is a way to find out... I mean... how many files could their be? and we already know what it needs to be for bin,sbin,games
[05:31] <Shadow_mil> that's like 1/2 of them right their
[05:31] <wickedpuppy> there is post-it notes .. there is mysql .. there is MS-access like database .... there is cvs/svn
[05:31] <avagant> Is anyone else having problems with Firefox right now?
[05:31] <avagant> I can't get it to load up pages. It shows that it IS loading up pages, but then it doesn't go to the page.
[05:31] <wickedpuppy> Shadow_mil, why are you assuming again ? the problem happened cause you assumed ...
[05:32] <wickedpuppy> Shadow_mil, i can't help ya there ... one thing you can do is install ubuntu on another com and install whatever you have here .. and compare the permissions and owner one by one
[05:32] <Shadow_mil> wickedpuppy: :\
[05:33] <wickedpuppy> Shadow_mil, /usr is a pretty big one ... go look for yourself
[05:33] <Flannel> Shadow_mil: yeah, best to backup /home and anything else you've changed and reinstall.  And don't chown/chmod random things in the future
[05:33] <bless> avagant, not problem here
[05:33] <Shadow_mil> cdmod -R 777 /usr      that would fix my problems?
[05:33] <avagant> Hmm. Well, I don't know how to make all my plugins work for Opera or anything so I don't know if I should just wait it out.
[05:34] <Dr_willis> Hmmm.. anytime i see chmod and 777 - i think ICK.
[05:34] <bless> maybe ur internet
[05:34] <Flannel> Shadow_mil: no.  That'll just make it worse.
[05:34] <avagant> Everything else works fine.
[05:34] <fildo> running dns ?
[05:34] <fildo> or bind9 ?
[05:34] <avagant> It's not like the internet just doesn't work.
[05:35] <bless> a ok
[05:35] <fildo> more then likely ur settings then
[05:35] <fildo> if ur net is up
[05:35] <avagant> Like if I do a google search and click on a link, it shows that it's going to the link...but then it stays on the google page.
[05:35] <lansing> i try to use the terminal and it says canot access archive : no such file or directory
[05:36] <Shadow_mil> Can't I just fix owner ship problems as they come up?
[05:36] <lansing> i do exactly wat the forum says
[05:36] <lansing> help plz
[05:36] <fildo> even if u restart firefox ?
[05:36] <fildo> just install opera :p
[05:36] <Shadow_mil> first one :)        chuck@ubuntu:~$ sudo
[05:36] <Shadow_mil> sudo: must be setuid root
[05:36] <Shadow_mil> :D
[05:37] <fildo> lansing: have u activated sudo yet
[05:37] <skroll> is there a way to register a new protocol address in nautilus/gnome to launch an app?
[05:37] <lansing> how
[05:37] <wickedpuppy> Shadow_mil, the problem with /usr is /usr/share , /usr/lib and /usr/include are very important dirs ...
[05:37] <avagant> Uh oh shadow.
[05:37] <fildo> !sudo
[05:37] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:37] <avagant> Shadow_mil: I had the same problem where I had changed ownership of usr/bin
[05:37] <mikeo> !hdtv
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hdtv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <avagant> And couldn't access sudo.
[05:38] <dobbbob> when i install the smp 686 kernel i have TWO 686 kernels on my grub menu!! which one do i pick?
[05:38] <avagant> You have to get to the grub menu and change it back, but I can't remember how.
[05:38] <Shadow_mil> -R is a very bad switch :(
[05:38] <fildo> one should be recovery. the other should be the OS
[05:38] <SkyMountaineer> rm - r all the way
[05:38] <PerhapsToast> Wow, a lot of folks in here.
[05:38] <fildo> -rf is better
[05:38] <avagant> Yah same thing I did, Shadow.
[05:38] <lansing> hey fildo how do ido that
[05:39] <fildo> !sudo > lansing
[05:39] <Shadow_mil> avagant: no I did      chown -R root /usr
[05:39] <avagant> I learned how to -R and totally screwed everything up.
[05:39] <fildo> haha
[05:39] <wickedpuppy> avagant, he did it to /usr .. not just /usr/bin ...
[05:39] <avagant> Shadow, I'm telling you that's what I did.
[05:39] <lansing> ya
[05:39] <Dr34mC0d3r> when i ran ubuntu 5.04 - i could type "mail" and it would give me mail sent to my username. Now im on ubuntu 6.06(fresh install) and i type mail - it always says "No mail for chris" Any ideas???
[05:39] <fildo> recursive !
[05:39] <dobbbob> help please
[05:39] <avagant> !recursive
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about recursive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <O2> wickedpuppy:  if another user to login ubuntu, will he see my document in the hard-drive?
[05:40] <SkyMountaineer> !rm - rf
[05:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rm - rf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <avagant> That was a funny little period of time.
[05:40] <SkyMountaineer> !rm -rf
[05:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rm -rf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <aztek> i know this is offtopic but a friend thought he'd be funny and rm -Rf a laptop i had running what he didnt realize was actually CD-bootable Slax
[05:40] <avagant> I almost cried.
[05:40] <fildo> O2:  yes, but perms fix that
[05:40] <Dr34mC0d3r> with message of "No mail for chris" - looks like mail is working - also /home/USER/maildir/new - does contain lots of mail..
[05:40] <dobbbob> does ubuntu even support smp
[05:41] <simon__> hey guy do u know a cool application for monitoring system
[05:41] <jared> top?
[05:41] <SkyMountaineer> top
[05:41] <avagant> So now the whole operating system Ubuntu is going to be named Jared?
[05:41] <Dr34mC0d3r> i like top
[05:41] <avagant> Man I can't get use to this.
[05:41] <Shadow_mil> please... I need this fixed without reinstall
[05:41] <jared> Shadow_mil: whats the problem?
[05:41] <avagant> Shadow can't sudo.
[05:41] <Shadow_mil> jared: owner ship in /usr got messed up
[05:42] <Flannel> jared: he chowned his /usr
[05:42] <Flannel> jared: so, update
[05:42] <jared> i dont want to use an unstable version
[05:42] <jared> Shadow_mil: hmm
[05:42] <jared> meh
[05:42] <avagant> Shadow get to the grub menu and chown root:root /usr
[05:42] <jared> yea
[05:42] <avagant> or something like that.
[05:42] <Shadow_mil> avagant: I am in root
[05:42] <jared> Shadow_mil: do you know the root password?
[05:42] <jared> oh
[05:42] <jared> ok
[05:42] <avagant> So you can get into sudo?
[05:42] <avagant> I'm so confused!
[05:42] <Shadow_mil> avagant: I enabled root user
[05:42] <Shadow_mil> long ago
[05:43] <aztek> so you're running as straight up root?
[05:43] <Shadow_mil> no
[05:43] <jared> Shadow_mil: sudo chown nick:nick /usr
[05:43] <yokobr> hi, i need to find libSDL-1.2.so.0,
[05:43] <dobbbob> when i install the smp 686 kernel i have TWO 686 kernels on my grub menu!! which one do i pick?
[05:43] <jared> Shadow_mil: what is your nick?
[05:43] <avagant> Shadow, it's better idea just to use another name instead of root all the time.
[05:43] <Shadow_mil> I still use sudo
[05:43] <avagant> Root = causes too much trouble.
[05:43] <Shadow_mil> *sigh*
[05:43] <Dr34mC0d3r> anyone help with a mail problem?
[05:43] <Shadow_mil> I run as chuck
[05:43] <Dr34mC0d3r> when i ran ubuntu 5.04 - i could type "mail" and it would give me mail sent to my username. Now im on ubuntu 6.06(fresh install) and i type mail - it always says "No mail for chris" Any ideas???
[05:43] <Shadow_mil> but root user is still enabled
[05:43] <avagant> CAN you sudo though if you weren't in root?
[05:43] <Flannel> dobbbob: you're on Breezy?
[05:43] <Shadow_mil> avagant: no
[05:44] <jared> Shadow_mil: do you want all users to have access to /usr, or just root and you
[05:44] <Flannel> jared: he doesn't.  He accidentally chowned it.
[05:44] <avagant> I think Flannel was the one who helped me with that.
[05:44] <jared> chown what:what
[05:44] <Shadow_mil> jared: I want the correct permissions/owner ship
[05:44] <dobbbob> no im on the latest dapper
[05:44] <jared> what are the correct permissions?
[05:44] <Flannel> dobbbob: then all 686 kernels are SMP
[05:45] <Shadow_mil> jared: I have no idea, its a huge complex dir
[05:45] <aztek> default?
[05:45] <dobbbob> flannel after i use synaptics to install the 686 smp i have two kernels at my grun menu
[05:45] <bless> hi i update my ubuntu breezy to dapper , one hour ago the download finish and it still saying  "preconfiguring packs"  is normal that this "preconfiguring" take 1 hour?
[05:45] <jared> Shadow_mil: tell me the correct permissions, and i will tell you what to do
[05:45] <jared> oh
[05:45] <jared> meh
[05:45] <jared> h/o
[05:45] <lansing> hey avagant iam dumafied on this need help wit terminal thiny to install java and frostwire
[05:45] <hump> is there a command you can issue from the terminal to have like a notepad thing come up?
[05:45] <Flannel> hump: nano
[05:45] <hump> no no..
[05:45] <hump> with a gui.
[05:45] <Shadow_mil> muiltable ownership, some should be chuck, others should be the program that uses them
[05:45] <Flannel> hump: gedit
[05:45] <avagant> sudo apt-get install frostwire?
[05:45] <cafuego> hump: gedit or any other X based editor.
[05:46] <avagant> first check and see if it can find the package lansing.
[05:46] <avagant> sudo apt-cache search frostwire
[05:46] <Elephant> hump:  emacs?
[05:46] <SuperMiguel> any c compiler for C
[05:46] <avagant> And then if it finds it sudo apt-get install frostwire
[05:46] <SuperMiguel> Any C compiler for ubuntu?
[05:46] <Flannel> SuperMiguel: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:46] <jbinder> Shadow_mil: pm
[05:46] <avagant> Flannel: That comes with like 900 packages haha.
[05:47] <lansing> it cant
[05:47] <tonyyarusso> SuperMiguel: gcc
[05:47] <billfur> is there a program that will share files to itunes?
[05:47] <atarimaster> does anyone use gambas
[05:47] <Flannel> avagant: build-essential? comes with five.  And it's everything you need to compile.
[05:47] <tonyyarusso> !itunes
[05:47] <avagant> Ok did you go to your sources list and uncomment everything.
[05:47] <ubotu> itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[05:47] <avagant> lansing: Did you go to your sources list and uncomment the right things?
[05:47] <avagant> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:47] <hump> admin@admin-desktop:/home$ gedit unrealircd.conf
[05:47] <hump> cannot open display: (null)
[05:48] <avagant> And uncomment the things that start with deb http:// (I think)
[05:48] <Shadow_mil> would dpkg know the correct ownerships?
[05:48] <Flannel> hump: You need to do it in a gnome-termnal, not a tty
[05:48] <lansing> dont know how to do anything on this op sys
[05:48] <avagant> lansing trust me I've been there.
[05:48] <hump> Flannel, command.. key shortcut?
[05:48] <Flannel> lansing: the wiki walks you through everything, step by step.
[05:48] <lansing> so ur talking jiberish to me
[05:48] <avagant> I started it up for the first time and had to reinstall in a day.
[05:48] <Flannel> hump: er... programs > accessories > terminal, or alt-f2 will bring up a run dialog
[05:49] <avagant> lansing go to the terminal.
[05:49] <lansing> ok
[05:49] <avagant> type in this exact thing.
[05:49] <Flannel> hump: of course, if you were to go through all that trouble, you might as well just go programs > accessories > text editor
[05:49] <lansing> ok
[05:49] <Flannel> hump: or, whereever it is.
[05:49] <avagant> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:49] <Flannel> avagant: gksudo
[05:49] <avagant> Or that too.
[05:50] <jbinder> Shadow_mil: chmod 775 /usr
[05:50] <jbinder> no
[05:50] <avagant> It will give you a list of repositories.
[05:50] <bless> hi i update my ubuntu breezy to dapper , one hour ago the download finish and it still saying  "preconfiguring packs"  is normal that this "preconfiguring" take 1 hour?
[05:50] <jbinder> Shadow_mil: chmod 774 /usr
[05:50] <lansing> ok then wat
[05:50] <jbinder> &&
[05:50] <jbinder> Shadow_mil: got it?
[05:50] <jbinder> chmod 774 /usr
[05:50] <avagant> Are any of them uncommented as in without the ## beside them?
[05:50] <Shadow_mil> chmod -R 774 /usr   ?
[05:51] <jbinder> if chmod 774 /usr doesnt work, then try with -r
[05:51] <Flannel> bless: depending on your computer speed, sure.  Mine took a good few hours.
[05:51] <jbinder> Shadow_mil: if chmod 774 /usr doesnt work, then try with -r
[05:51] <avagant> basically look for things that have deb http or deb src beside them or
[05:51] <bless> flannel , more than 1 hour?
[05:52] <hump> what the heck
[05:52] <hump> i just chmodded a whole directory to 700
[05:52] <Flannel> bless: right.  Although, I didn't sit around, so I don't know how long it displayed 'preconfiguring' but, long upgrades aren't any cause of alarm
[05:52] <jbinder> so
[05:52] <hump> and it still says i dont have access
[05:52] <AB2> Hi people, can anyone recommend a good music utility for ubuntu? preferably one that can be apt-got?
[05:52] <jbinder> hump: eh
[05:52] <Flannel> hump: which directory?
[05:52] <jbinder> hump, is your username hump?
[05:52] <cge> AB2: What do you mean by music utility?
[05:52] <avagant> lansing you find those yet?
[05:52] <hump> chmod 700 Unreal3.2/* -R
[05:52] <hump> ??
[05:52] <AB2> Well, any fairly able music player.
[05:52] <lansing> umm
[05:52] <bless> ok Flannel  thanks man
[05:52] <Flannel> hump: who owns that?
[05:52] <cge> AB2: Rhythmbox is included
[05:53] <lansing> there ## beside a few of them
[05:53] <avagant> AB2: I use xmms it reminds me of Winamp.
[05:53] <AB2> is that typically used within an xserver?
[05:53] <hump> i chmodded as rot
[05:53] <spanglesontoast> erm what's the best ntfs driver that allows read/write and works without recompiling the kernel ?
[05:53] <cge> AB2: Yes
[05:53] <Flannel> hump: who owns it though?  since, 700 means onlythe owner can read
[05:53] <cge> AB2: Do you want one that isn't used in an xserver?
[05:53] <avagant> lansing: Only uncomment things that say deb http or deb src.
[05:53] <hump> whats the level so everyone can access?
[05:53] <jbinder> hump: try chmodding 770
[05:53] <AB2> I suppose xserver's better for now :)
[05:53] <avagant> Meaning erase the ##
[05:53] <lansing> ok how
[05:53] <Flannel> hump: 777 would be everyone full access
[05:54] <cge> hump: 1777
[05:54] <avagant> Don't erase the whole line, just erase the 2 ## at the beginning.
[05:54] <cge> :)
[05:54] <jbinder> hump: DONT DO 777
[05:54] <Flannel> spanglesontoast: you might try !fuse, no idea what requires recompiling
[05:54] <spanglesontoast> it does
[05:54] <jbinder> hump: 777 = ANYONE can get it
[05:54] <spanglesontoast> :|
[05:54] <lansing> ok ?
[05:54] <avagant> And only erase the ## in front of the things that either say deb http or deb src.
[05:54] <Shadow_mil> jbinder: now it says: chuck@ubuntu:~$ sudo
[05:54] <Shadow_mil> bash: sudo: command not found
[05:54] <jbinder> ..
[05:54] <jbinder> wtf
[05:55] <avagant> Ok, now save it if you are done.
[05:55] <jbinder> lol
[05:55] <jbinder> Shadow_mil: sudo su
[05:55] <cge> Shadow_mil: don't use sudo su
[05:55] <Shadow_mil> bash: /usr/bin/sudo: Permission denied
[05:55] <lansing> should i delete all the ## thingy
[05:55] <avagant> No not all of them.
[05:55] <cge> Shadow_mil: Use sudo -i
[05:56] <hump> WHAT THE HECK
[05:56] <hump> i just chmodded it to 777
[05:56] <hump> and still says premission denied
[05:56] <avagant> lansing: ONLY the ones with deb http or deb src in front of them.
[05:56] <Shadow_mil> bash: /usr/bin/sudo: Permission denied
[05:56] <avagant> you gotta go to grub, shadow.
[05:56] <Flannel> hump: you still haven't chmodded the directory, just the files in it, probably.
[05:56] <Shadow_mil> avagant: I can get root access if that's what you people want...
[05:56] <hump> dude
[05:56] <hump> chmod 777 Unreal3.2/* -R
[05:56] <hump> ?
[05:56] <cge> hump: yes, don't put the * there
[05:56] <ryan_> my add/remove applications menu has dissaperared any clue how to get it back
[05:56] <avagant> Shadow_mil: I'm just unclear of what the real problem is.
[05:57] <avagant> lansing: Did you only do the ones with deb http and deb src?
[05:57] <lansing> ok done i think
[05:57] <avagant> Ok now save and close.
[05:57] <Shadow_mil> avagant: permissions/ownership in /usr are completely fucked up
[05:57] <cge> Shadow_mil: what does ls -l /usr/sbin/sudo give you?
[05:57] <Flannel> hump: ls -l  what is Unreal3.2's permissions?
[05:57] <lansing> ok done
[05:57] <cge> Shadow_mil: err, bin, not sbin
[05:57] <avagant> Now do sudo apt-get update
[05:57] <hump> drwxrwxrwx 12 root  root     4096 Oct 10 23:13 Unreal3.2
[05:57] <avagant> or juust sudo apt-get update
[05:57] <Shadow_mil> ls: /usr/sbin/sudo: No such file or directory
[05:57] <avagant> And wait until it's done.
[05:58] <Shadow_mil> -rwxrwxr-- 1 root root 93844 2006-05-17 04:41 /usr/bin/sudo
[05:58] <lansing> ok
[05:58] <avagant> Is it done?
[05:58] <lansing> i waiting
[05:58] <avagant> Ok.
[05:58] <lansing> k it say done
[05:58] <avagant> Ok now do sudo apt-cache search frostwire
[05:59] <avagant> If there were ## in front of the right things you didn't have the repositories set up right.
[05:59] <avagant> Or even have them yet at all.
[05:59] <avagant> Well you had them, but no access to them.
[06:00] <lansing> it just came up as comand again it didnt do anything
[06:00] <avagant> ok, then you might not be able to get frostwire right off the bat.
[06:00] <avagant> Try the java thing again.
[06:00] <jbinder> everyone: /j -freenode #jbinder
[06:00] <avagant> You might have to find the deb and unpackage it...let me try real quick.
[06:00] <lansing> k wat do i type
[06:01] <avagant> Remember that forum thing I lead you to?
[06:01] <jbinder> is anyone having a problem that needs to be assisted with?
[06:01] <lansing> ya
[06:01] <avagant> lansing:  sudo aptitude install sun-java5-bin sun-java5-plugin
[06:02] <Byan> is there a program that I can use to keep stats of bandwidth usage, CPU load, ect.
[06:02] <Byan> ?
[06:02] <fildo> top
[06:02] <avagant> It should work if you uncommented everything right.
[06:02] <jbinder> Byan: yes
[06:03] <Byan> fildo: should've been more specific.. like.. log it and like.. cgi it
[06:03] <avagant> It took me THE LONGEST time to figure that out, lansing so trust me.
[06:03] <admin_> hi
[06:03] <jbinder> hi
[06:03] <Shadow_mil> I am going to make /home  into its own partition, then reinstall ubuntu
[06:03] <Shadow_mil> will it see /home ?
[06:03] <jbinder> admin_: are you the same admin from lilug?
[06:03] <unfknblvbl> !java
[06:03] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[06:03] <lansing> ok
[06:03] <avagant> Did it work?
[06:03] <jbinder> oh
[06:04] <jbinder> Byan: right click the ubuntu task bar, and press add to panel
[06:04] <lansing> i think so
[06:04] <sanmarcos> I have an extra ext3 hd. how can I mount it so that all users can rw
[06:04] <baconbacon> Shadow_mil: youre going to mount that partition as /home during install process and it's going to work
[06:04] <Flannel> Shadow_mil: yeah. you'll add it at the partitioner, without repartitioning it.  Er... I believe the liveCD can do that. No idea on specifics regarding it though, Alternate can though
[06:04] <avagant> Did it give you prompts to download it and such?
[06:04] <jbinder> Byan: then select system monitor
[06:04] <avagant> And accept a license yada yada?
[06:04] <jbinder> Byan: /j -freenode #jbinder
[06:04] <jbinder> its too talkativeful in here
[06:04] <Flannel> jbinder: #ubuntu-classroom is another one
[06:04] <Shadow_mil> Flannel: I use gparted
[06:04] <Byan> uh, the server is headless
[06:04] <lansing> it said it couldnt find it
[06:04] <jbinder> meh
[06:05] <Flannel> Shadow_mil: no, you'll be doing this during the install.
[06:05] <avagant> Are you serious? Haha
[06:05] <avagant> Oh man.
[06:05] <Shadow_mil> Flannel: can't I do it before the install?
[06:05] <avagant> Ok here....do you know how to copy and paste?
[06:05] <avagant> Not being offensive here.
[06:05] <lansing> yes
[06:05] <Flannel> Shadow_mil: how are you going to mount it as /home before the install?
[06:05] <avagant> !pastebin
[06:05] <ryan_> any clue how the get the the add/remove shortcut back to the applications menu
[06:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:05] <avagant> Go to that website and paste the content of your /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:05] <fuffalo> i've seen some howto's that tell me to install apache etc, and some that tell me it's not needed anymore by mythtv, which should i do?
[06:05] <Flannel> Shadow_mil: You'll repartition and copy everything, yes.  And then once you have a partition for your home, you'll mount it as home during the install process, without reformatting it.
[06:05] <avagant> don't forget to sudo gedit
[06:06] <Flannel> avagant: gksudo
[06:06] <baconbacon> Shadow_mil: you want to mount a partition to copy things before install?
[06:06] <avagant> Flannel: I knew you'd catch me.
[06:06] <Shadow_mil> Flannel: Im not, I am going to use gparted, move all my info in /home to a new partition, mount that partition as /home then install ubuntu on /
[06:06] <avagant> When you are finished post the link in here, I wanna see if you did it right.
[06:06] <lansing> umm durh
[06:06] <Flannel> Shadow_mil: no.  If you mount it as /home, when you install, your fstab is going to be overwritten.  You mount it as home DURING the installation.
[06:06] <avagant> I'm not being mean man, trust me I couldn't get sound to work at all and I've done about a billion things to screw my s ystem up.
[06:07] <baconbacon> Shadow_mil: move your info on your future /home, using whatever mount point, then during install you set it up as /home
[06:07] <lansing> no i mean iam durh
[06:07] <Shadow_mil> Flannel: so make a new partition, move my files to it, then during install assgine it as /home?
[06:07] <baconbacon> yes
[06:07] <Shadow_mil> ok bbl
[06:07] <Shadow_mil> sigh...
[06:07] <nino> #pomerode
[06:07] <Flannel> Shadow_mil: right
[06:08] <Flannel> fuffalo: the mythtv package doesn't seem to depend on apache
[06:08] <avagant> Take your time lansing just know that I've been there.
[06:08] <Byan> anyways..., I am gonna reask this and be more specific, is there a program that I can use to keep server stats like load and bandwidth and then show them on a website
[06:08] <Shadow_mil> good bye curl world!   wish me luck
[06:09] <Flannel> Byan: like webalizer?
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> Byan: Um, yes.  Now let's see if I can remember the name.
[06:09] <Shadow_mil> let me delete some large files I don't need first
[06:09] <jbinder> hi
[06:09] <lansing> umm avagent big prob
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> Byan: Souns right ^^
[06:09] <avagant> Big solution, hopefully?
[06:09] <lansing> that gedit thingy
[06:09] <avagant> Ok.
[06:10] <RMorris84> Hello, i made a backup of my Home directory, and i just reformatted my drive and now i want to put that home directory back, do I just copy the contents back into the home folder?
[06:10] <lansing> its gone n i saved it
[06:10] <avagant> That's fine.
[06:10] <avagant> No worries.
[06:10] <Peumaman> Hey I was wondering how I could get a certain command to run every time I booted up.  Like i just want one line to run in a terminal, thats all
[06:10] <avagant> Hold on one second.
[06:10] <lansing> ok good
[06:10] <psusi> RMorris84 yea... I assume you tared it up? just untar it back into the proper place
[06:10] <avagant> lansing: So everything in /etc/apt/sources.list is completely gone?
[06:11] <yokobr> hi guys
[06:11] <lansing> yup
[06:11] <RMorris84> psusi: yeah i tarred it up, now will i have my firefox bookmarks back and such?
[06:11] <avagant> lansing: Go here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185758 and copy and paste this into your /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:11] <tonyyarusso> Peumaman: You can add it to the /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh script, but I'm not sure if that's the proper way.
[06:11] <yokobr> my unreal 2004 wont run since ive uploaded....on ubuntu 64
[06:11] <psusi> RMorris84 I think those are stored in your home dir, so yes
[06:11] <yokobr> ./ut2004-bin: error while loading shared libraries: ./libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:12] <avagant> What's inside the yellow box, copy and paste.
[06:12] <baconbacon> yokobr: sudo apt-get install sdl
[06:12] <host_> anyone know if there is a way to tell if I'm connecting using ndiswrapper, or if I'm connecting using the old means that ubuntu connected before?
[06:12] <yokobr> still installed
[06:12] <avagant> It's all set up you don't have to uncomment everything.
[06:12] <host_> if I load ndiswrapper does it automatically use that?
[06:12] <avagant> Then save that, exit and run sudo apt-get update.
[06:13] <yokobr> sdl is still installed
[06:13] <yokobr> is not that
[06:13] <lansing> k how do i open the source thing
[06:13] <DaveyJ> quick quesiton.. whats the KDE equivelant to gnome's "sessions"
[06:13] <baconbacon> did you go from 32 to 64
[06:13] <avagant> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:13] <yokobr> nope
[06:13] <avagant> or gksudo
[06:13] <DaveyJ> i want to change somethin gi added when i was using gnome in my auto-startup
[06:13] <yokobr> ubuntu 64 bit edition
[06:13] <avagant> Beat Flannel to it.
[06:13] <baconbacon> yokobr: ok so it worked on 64 bit before..
[06:14] <yokobr> it runs ok, if i dont update unreal patch
[06:14] <samuel> I have an 11 gig ubuntu partition, also I have 28 gig free space how do i add the free space to ubuntu part/ so I can have a bigger ubuntu partition?
[06:14] <avagant> paste it all into your sources.list don't touch anything save and exit.
[06:15] <lansing> nvm its all here
[06:15] <yokobr> but the game have much bugs, on normal version....i had to update...but now it asks for sudo libSDL-1.2.so.0
[06:15] <avagant> Well, in your case I would most definitley just copy and paste because I don't know if you did it right.
[06:15] <gss6> any idea when 6.10 is commin?
[06:15] <lansing> ok
[06:15] <baconbacon> !schedule
[06:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[06:15] <samuel> I have an 11 gig ubuntu partition, also I have 28 gig free space how do i add the free space to ubuntu part/ so I can have a bigger ubuntu partition?
[06:16] <DaveyJ> anyone?
[06:16] <avagant> Basically lansing what happens is when you run apt-get whatever it looks for the website to get the repositories from.
[06:16] <avagant> By uncommenting the deb http and deb src it can draw packages from there.
[06:16] <avagant> Basically it skips anything with a ## in front of it.
[06:16] <samuel> Can anyone help? am frustrated
[06:16] <avagant> What I think is happening is you don't have the commented, therefore you can't get packages.
[06:16] <lansing> ok
[06:16] <samuel> please~~~
[06:16] <lansing> saved
[06:17] <avagant> Ok now run sudo apt-get update
[06:17] <avagant> and try the java thing again. I swear it works because i just did it like 3 hours ago.
[06:17] <avagant> I just had to fresh install everything.
[06:17] <psusi> samuel: boot from the livecd and use gparted to resize the partition
[06:17] <samuel> will it have to install everything again?
[06:17] <psusi> samuel: if it works?  no.
[06:18] <yokobr> baconbacon, ideas?
[06:18] <gss6> haha and i just ordered CD's from shipit, lol
[06:18] <samuel> thanks
[06:18] <psusi> samuel: but if you have any important data, you should always have a backup
[06:18] <baconbacon> I don't know
[06:18] <samuel> thanks mate
[06:18] <yokobr> i was thinking..maybe some link
[06:18] <samuel> Is ubuntu a business for profit or a community geek thing?
[06:18] <avagant> I know I"m probably the last person to dish out advice on anything but...
[06:18] <yokobr> ls -l
[06:18] <psusi> samuel: both
[06:18] <yokobr> from lib 32 to 64
[06:18] <psusi> well, actually, the corporation is a not for profit
[06:19] <samuel> sweet
[06:19] <johnnyg> I've installed w32codecs in ubuntu and my videos all play back with a blue hue. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling the codecs with no luck. How can i fix this? Is there a "good" place to get them from?
[06:19] <avagant> blue hue?
[06:19] <avagant> Did it happen before you installed the codecs?
[06:19] <lansing> k done
[06:19] <gss6> i just use automatix
[06:19] <avagant> Ok do the java package again.
[06:19] <lansing> ??
[06:19] <johnnyg> avagant: before I installed the codecs I couldn't play videos of certain formats.
[06:19] <yokobr> how can i install automatix
[06:19] <yokobr> ?
[06:20] <avagant> sudo aptitude install sun-java5-bin sun-java5-plugin
[06:20] <yokobr> :)
[06:20] <avagant> lansing
[06:20] <avagant> johnnyg: but i mean was the blue hue there?
[06:20] <johnnyg> avagant: no
[06:20] <avagant> well i guess you wouldn't know.
[06:20] <gss6> www.getautomatix.com
[06:20] <avagant> johnnyg did you get the source from the forums?
[06:20] <w30> samuel, just use gparted to make an ext3 partition out of the free space and then edit fstab to mount that partition where you want it. Like home. I myself have a partition called myshit that I sticke every yhing I have that is not operating system special in.
[06:21] <avagant> I got everything I have from ubuntuforums.org since i'm pretty lame and n00b at the same time.
[06:21] <jbinder> Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/0' - please check.
[06:21] <jbinder> gasp
[06:21] <jbinder> Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/0' - please check.
[06:21] <jbinder> :\
[06:21] <jbinder> meh
[06:21] <Madpilot> yokobr, best advice about automatix: avoid it, least it break your Ubuntu.
[06:21] <johnnyg> avagant: I followed the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#w32codecs
[06:21] <avagant> ahhhh i don't know if they are the same as the ones I followed.
[06:21] <adub> does anyone know if there is a new mad wifi driver
[06:21] <avagant> i think i use wget or something to get the ones i have.
[06:22] <avagant> "used"
[06:22] <yokobr> I have had UT2004 running with debian amd64. It ran fine, sound and video. But when I upgraded to the latest linux version (ut2004) it stopped working,
[06:22] <adub> i mean my connection is ok but sluggish not as stable as the windows connection
[06:23] <lansing> k installin
[06:23] <DaveyJ> i want to change something i added when i was using gnome in my auto-startup in Settings -> Session.. i switched over to KDE.. how do i access that original startup script?
[06:23] <avagant> Sweet lansing
[06:23] <gss6> is there an easy way to get SMP working?
[06:23] <lansing> ya no kiddin
[06:23] <avagant> johnnyg: I went here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186792
[06:23] <avagant> Once that's done I have one more thing for you to do. Haha
[06:24] <lansing> ok
[06:24] <avagant> Is it done?
[06:24] <johnnyg> avagant: sweet, thank you - trying ti now
[06:24] <lansing> not yet
[06:24] <avagant> Ok when it's done let me know.
[06:24] <lansing> k i will
[06:25] <gss6> is there a known issue with firefox 1.5.0.7?
[06:25] <adub> how can i find out what drivers my network card is using
[06:26] <lansing> done
[06:26] <BHSPitLappy> I've got a problem
[06:26] <avagant> Ok now type this in
[06:26] <avagant> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[06:26] <BHSPitLappy> I just got home from work, opened this laptop, and it's burning hot
[06:26] <avagant> and it'll give you options with numbers in front of them.
[06:26] <nicholaspaul> Q: I know i hasve this thing installed - but whats the easy way to install tarballs?
[06:26] <avagant> pick the one that has anything that says java 1.5
[06:26] <BHSPitLappy> this isn't just a one-time thing, either... it's always burning upon return
[06:27] <BHSPitLappy> and this isn't hardware-related, it's OS related
[06:27] <lansing> k then wat
[06:27] <avagant> Then select the number and hit enter.
[06:27] <lansing> ok
[06:27] <avagant> so if java 1.5 is on 2 select 2.
[06:27] <avagant> Ok?
[06:27] <avagant> You officially have java now.
[06:27] <adub> is it ok to install debs
[06:27] <adub> lol im soooo rusty its been a long time
[06:27] <k0rd> so i finally have ubuntu dual-booted
[06:28] <lansing> ok
[06:28] <k0rd> took me forever, but I got it
[06:28] <lansing> kool
[06:28] <avagant> Do you have flash yet?
[06:28] <k0rd> me?
[06:28] <lansing> macromedia
[06:28] <avagant> Well I guess you wouldn't, lansing.
[06:28] <avagant> Yes but do you have the nonfree one?
[06:28] <nicholaspaul> Whats the name of that program that helps install tarballs, the easy way?
[06:28] <lansing> umm dono
[06:28] <avagant> You might not.
[06:28] <avagant> Type this in to terminal
[06:29] <avagant> sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:29] <avagant> Maybe I do have hope of becoming a teacher someday.
[06:29] <avagant> :)
[06:30] <lansing> nope
[06:30] <TigerWolf> cant seem to find anyone to help me - ITS GETTING REALLY ANNOYING! - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1602933
[06:30] <dobbbob> i added the clock frequency to my top menu bar and when i left click on it my system hangs for about 30 seconds. i can right click on it though
[06:30] <k0rd> what do you type after that?
[06:30] <avagant> Nope, lansing?
[06:30] <avagant> you don't have it, or nope nothing?
[06:31] <k0rd> i dont have it, it just brought up something about unpacking after OB?
[06:31] <lansing> nvm got it
[06:31] <w30>  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1602933
[06:31] <avagant> Ok did it install?
[06:31] <VR^> hi all, which java do i need for azureus, and which for firefox?
[06:31] <k0rd> no it said it did not install
[06:31] <avagant> 1.5
[06:31] <lansing> installin now
[06:31] <neil_d> I am thinking of developing a GUI , not a very complex one but not that simple ether, what language do you recommend, C, perl, ruby etc.
[06:32] <avagant> k0rd, did you uncomment the sources.list?
[06:32] <SuperMiguel> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation! there is any way to fix that
[06:32] <k0rd> nope :\
[06:32] <k0rd> how do I do that?
[06:32] <avagant> ok haha.
[06:32] <avagant> startin' all over!
[06:32] <lansing> k done
[06:32] <avagant> ok now type this lansing
[06:32] <avagant> sudo update-flashplugin
[06:32] <avagant> And you should have flash AND java.
[06:32] <nicholaspaul> Can someone help me with Tarballs?
[06:33] <VR^> is "sun-java5-bin" for azureus, and " sun-java5-plugin" for ff?
[06:33] <avagant> And you can webbrowse to your little hearts desire.
[06:33] <lansing> done
[06:33] <SuperMiguel> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[06:33] <avagant> k0rd what version of ubuntu are you on?
[06:33] <gss6> is there a known issue with firefox 1.5.0.7?
[06:33] <k0rd> 6.0.6
[06:33] <avagant> lansing: I don't know if they offer frostwire in the repositories.
[06:34] <avagant> k0rd: But I mean kubuntu, ubuntu?
[06:34] <k0rd> ubuntu
[06:34] <lansing> ok wat about lime
[06:34] <avagant> Ok.
[06:34] <lansing> ive got lime to
[06:34] <avagant> I haven't tried that one yet....I use Nicotine which is linux's version of Soulseek.
[06:34] <avagant> k0rd type in your terminal gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:35] <johnnyg> avagant: that worked, thanks much :)
[06:35] <avagant> lansing: I always end up somehow getting spam and viruses from frostwire and limewire, so I try to avoid it.
[06:35] <k0rd> ok
[06:35] <Bathmonster> i am looking for a mp3/movie player whats out there to use ?
[06:35] <avagant> Hey look at me! I'm a teacher of some sort!
[06:35] <avagant> k0rd now....you see how everything has ## in front of it?
[06:35] <lansing> ok wat  about azurz thingy
[06:35] <k0rd> yeah
[06:36] <avagant> I would do a search lansing sudo apt-cache search limewire
[06:36] <uNfOrGiViNg> where I get edgy?
[06:36] <nicholaspaul> Can someone tell me why ./configure doesnt work? I installed build-essential
[06:36] <SuperMiguel> sudo apt-cache search Qt
[06:36] <avagant> well take the ## away only from the things that say deb http and deb src
[06:36] <k0rd> then?
[06:36] <avagant> nicholaspaul is there a configure file IN the package? I don't know if that matters or not.
[06:36] <k0rd> save?
[06:36] <avagant> k0rd save and exit that.
[06:37] <avagant> Yes.
[06:37] <avagant> go back to terminal and type sudo apt-get update
[06:37] <k0rd> k
[06:37] <SomeoneElse> it there a command from ubuntu command line to get the amount of ram and the prosesser speed and type?
[06:37] <k0rd> 41%
[06:37] <avagant> uname -r i think?
[06:37] <avagant> SomeoneElse?
[06:37] <avagant> Or maybe not.
[06:37] <nicholaspaul> avagant i dont see one.
[06:37] <foo> I changed the hostname on my laptop .. and I didn't change the hostname in vim /etc/hosts.. so 172.0.1.1 oldhostname still exists.. whenever I do sudo, it says, "sudo: unable to lookup newhostname via gethostbyname()" - any ideas?
[06:37] <avagant> I don't know if that matters or not, nicholas.
[06:38] <k0rd> ok, now what avagant?
[06:38] <lansing> avagant
[06:38] <avagant> I just know I've always had trouble if there isn't one.
[06:38] <avagant> lansing?
[06:38] <avagant> k0rd you looking for what now?
[06:38] <lansing> ive tryed searchin nuttin  comes up
[06:38] <nicholaspaul> avagant: oh i see. Thx for the tip
[06:38] <mnepton> SomeoneElse: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:38] <k0rd> flash & Java I guess
[06:38] <avagant> ok haha.
[06:38] <k0rd> lol
[06:38] <lansing> just comes back to comand
[06:38] <SomeoneElse> thz guys
[06:38] <mnepton> SomeoneElse: cat /proc/meminfo
[06:39] <lansing> ive got that azur program to
[06:39] <avagant> k0rd: type in this sudo aptitude install sun-java5-bin sun-java5-plugin
[06:39] <avagant> lansing: That probably means either you have to find the package and install it or....i don't know.
[06:39] <MaKaTiGuY> how can i mount my other partions drive in ubuntu?
[06:39] <SomeoneElse> sudo?
[06:39] <lansing> o ok
[06:39] <mnepton> lansing: what are you trying to do?
[06:39] <k0rd> umm it says 0 packages upgraded....etc.
[06:39] <dobbbob> where can i get the w32codecs for the 686smp kernel? i only see a 386 pack
[06:39] <avagant> Did it download anything?
[06:40] <VR^> avagant: what's the sun-java5-bin for exactly? how is it different from sun-java5-jre?
[06:40] <lansing> install a music downloader
[06:40] <k0rd> just a list of a bunch of upgrades I guess
[06:40] <lansing> y
[06:40] <avagant> Hmmm.
[06:40] <k0rd> it couldn't find those packages
[06:40] <k0rd> it says
[06:40] <avagant> oh snap you might not have uncommented right?
[06:40] <mnepton> lansing: lots of apps do p2p. is it a torrent client you're after?
[06:40] <lansing> no
[06:40] <k0rd> maybe? idk
[06:40] <k0rd> first time doing all of this
[06:40] <avagant> k0rd: Go her.e
[06:40] <SomeoneElse> thx mngrif
[06:40] <lansing> iam after azureus
[06:40] <SomeoneElse> thx mnepton
[06:40] <mnepton> lansing: then what? gnutella?
[06:40] <SomeoneElse> **
[06:41] <avagant> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186792
[06:41] <avagant> Follow that word for word, you'll get everything you need.
[06:41] <mnepton> lansing: azureus is a bit torrent client. it requires Java, Java GNOME bindings, and other things.
[06:41] <avagant> I need to go real quick. Haha
[06:41] <lansing> o
[06:41] <yokobr> I have had UT2004 running with debian amd64. It ran fine, sound and video. But when I upgraded to the latest linux version (ut2004) it stopped working,
[06:41] <lansing> i need a p2p thing like lime wire or other
[06:41] <mnepton> lansing: enable the universe and multiverse repos and install Azureus that way. or, go the easy route and use BitTornado,
[06:42] <mnepton> lansing: for Gnutella (Limewire) use GTK-Gnutella
[06:42] <mnepton> lansing: sudo apt-get install bittornado-gui gtk-gnutella
[06:43] <yokobr> I have had UT2004 running with debian amd64. It ran fine, sound and video. But when I upgraded to the latest linux version (ut2004) it stopped working, it asks for libSDL-1.2.so.0
[06:43] <mnepton> done.
[06:43] <VR^> can *anyone* answer this for me please > which package do i need to install to run azureus: sun-java5-bin, OR sun-java5-jre? and, is sun-java5-plugin the plug-in for ff?
[06:43] <mnepton> VR^: you need to install Azureus.
[06:43] <VR^> mnepton: i know that
[06:43] <VR^> mnepton: i'm asking about JAVA
[06:43] <mnepton> VR^: it's in either multiverse or universe
[06:43] <eracc> Hrm, no "Seen" plugin for ubotu. :-p
[06:43] <mnepton> VR^: well, if you install Azureus, Java is a depnedency, huh?
[06:43] <VR^> mnepton: no, i don't want to apt-get it. it installs the whole damn mozilla suite
[06:44] <lansing> avagant
[06:44] <mnepton> VR^: i use BitTornado+Torrentflux *because* i don;t want to mess with all the Java dependencies for Azureus.
[06:44] <avagant> lansing: ?
[06:44] <yokobr> I have had UT2004 running with debian amd64. It ran fine, sound and video. But when I upgraded to the latest linux version (ut2004) it stopped working, it asks for libSDL-1.2.so.0
[06:45] <avagant> k0rd: You still here?
[06:45] <VR^> mnepton: okay, good. can you answer the other part? is sun-java5-plugin for firefox?
[06:45] <mnepton> VR^: it is
[06:45] <avagant> k0rd: Better yet, I'm sorry go here.
[06:45] <VR^> ok
[06:45] <lansing> i wanna install azureus but i dont know if itll download music
[06:46] <avagant> lansing: Why wouldn't it?
[06:46] <mnepton> VR^: try BitTornado before you mess with Azureus. it's dead simple to install.
[06:46] <VR^> lansing: azureus is just a torrent client.
[06:46] <wickedpuppy> lansing, thats a stupid question ... pardon me ...
[06:46] <avagant> mnepton: Doesn't ubuntu come with bittorrent anyways?
[06:46] <lansing> ok wat do i type cus i got it already
[06:46] <wickedpuppy> lansing, the question is can you find mp3 torrents
[06:46] <VR^> mnepton: yeah, it's just that i like azureus a lot. it's very feature-rich
[06:46] <lansing> dono
[06:46] <avagant> did i scare k0rd off?
[06:46] <mnepton> avagant: it does, but Tornado's feature set is a bit better than the mainline client
[06:47] <VR^> gnome-bittorrent is too simple
[06:47] <avagant> mnepton: I never really use bittorrent, only but like twice.
[06:47] <mnepton> VR^: how's your httpd-fu? ever run apache+php?
[06:47] <VR^> mnepton: no, i've never done that
[06:47] <mnepton> avagant: been doing more of it setting up seeds for Edgy from this office.
[06:47] <lansing> all i want is a program that will download music
[06:47] <avagant> mnepton: I'm always scared with bittorrent I'm gonna hit some kinda virus.
[06:47] <yokobr> I have had UT2004 running with debian amd64. It ran fine, sound and video. But when I upgraded to the latest linux version (ut2004) it stopped working, it asks for libSDL-1.2.so.0
[06:47] <VR^> mnepton: actually yeah, i have run apache+mysql+php
[06:47] <mnepton> VR^: ah, because Torrentflux made me forget all about Azureus. :)
[06:48] <avagant> mnepton: I've been looking for a certain iso of a certain os....
[06:48] <VR^> mnepton: does torrentflux allow you to pick individual files from a torrent and download only those that you want?
[06:48] <avagant> k0rd: Earth to you? Haha
[06:48] <mnepton> VR^: have a look at Torrentflux. if Apache and modphp are no big deal for you, Flux will rock your world.
[06:48] <wickedpuppy> lansing, if you can't find mp3 torrent .. really .. i don't know what to say ...
[06:48] <mnepton> VR^: it does.
[06:48] <avagant> wickedpuppy: I couldn't find anything I liked through bittorrent or the sites.
[06:49] <VR^> mnepton: so, you need apache+php to use torrentflux, yes?
[06:49] <wickedpuppy> avagant, what is it that you like may i ask ?
[06:49] <snoops> VR^ it uses bittornado as the backend..
[06:49] <VR^> i see
[06:49] <avagant> I like alot of hardcore and metal.
[06:49] <k0rd> wtf u cant play .mp3 on Rhythmbox?
[06:49] <mnepton> VR^: yup, Flux is nothing but a PHP-ified front end to BitTornado.
[06:49] <avagant> And videogame music?
[06:49] <wickedpuppy> avagant, name one pls ...
[06:49] <yokobr> guys , pleasee
[06:49] <snoops> VR^ it supplies bittornado with the project..so it's not a dependency..
[06:49] <VR^> well this looks a bit weird! a php client? @_@
[06:49] <gss6> lol, how hardcore?
[06:49] <avagant> Converge.
[06:49] <yokobr> I have had UT2004 running with debian amd64. It ran fine, sound and video. But when I upgraded to the latest linux version (ut2004) it stopped working, it asks for libSDL-1.2.so.0
[06:49] <fildo> torrentflux is mad
[06:49] <polx> hello
[06:49] <avagant> Norma Jean, The Chariot, Between the buried and me.
[06:49] <polx> im new to ubunt
[06:49] <polx> u
[06:50] <polx> and would like asistance
[06:50] <avagant> k0rd: You gotta get the right codecs first.
[06:50] <polx> can someone please assist me
[06:50] <VR^> i imagine it must be lightweight, or at least lighter than azureus
[06:50] <polx> ?
[06:50] <mnepton> VR^: but the cool thing is that then you can monitor torrents from anywhere. it's cool getting the latest Edgy torrents runing here at the office from my pyjamas at home ;)
[06:50] <VR^> sweet
[06:50] <lansing> would mp3 torrent 3 work
[06:50] <avagant> k0rd: It's a bit of work, but it's worth it.
[06:50] <gss6> BTBAM is pretty good
[06:50] <snoops> does it have a boss button mnepton?
[06:50] <VR^> mnepton: does it need mysql also?
[06:50] <gss6> ive heard alot about norma jean
[06:50] <avagant> gss6: The bass player ironically is from my home town.
[06:50] <wickedpuppy> avagant, can i private message you ? i don't want to post the link here
[06:50] <k0rd> avagant, did the link you give me have the codec for mp3?
[06:50] <mnepton> VR^: all the PHP does is control BitTornado, which is 100% Python. and Ubuntu loves Python.
[06:51] <avagant> Yes.
[06:51] <avagant> To both.
[06:51] <mnepton> VR^: no MySQL. just modphp.
[06:51] <gss6> lol, i've been listening to a static lullaby, its on the lighter side
[06:51] <mnepton> oh, wait...
[06:51] <VR^> mnepton: is there a howto someplace? just so i can try it out quickly.
[06:51] <polx> hi guys i am trying to install ubutun on my laptop which is paritionined with 3 NTFS and a hidden FAT32 by the distributor...for some reason when i try and install ubuntu through live cd it doesnt se it
[06:51] <polx> the installation does not see my paritions
[06:51] <avagant> I've been listening to The Bled and such.
[06:52] <polx> i have set aside 10 gig of unpartitioned space
[06:52] <polx> but it doesnt recognise it
[06:52] <psusi> polx: why the crap did the oem set up 3 ntfs partitions? that's bizare
[06:52] <mnepton> VR^: oh yeah, yo do need MySQL. sorry.
[06:52] <mnepton> *you
[06:52] <gss6> is there a howto on torrentflux?
[06:52] <polx> psusi: im not sure...
[06:52] <VR^> mkay
[06:52] <psusi> polx: what do you me by doesn't see it?  I can see why it can't install to it... there can only be 4 primary partitions, and it sounds like you have them all used
[06:52] <polx> i guess Benq got a kick out of it
[06:52] <VR^> that kinda makes sense
[06:52] <avagant> k0rd: On that page all those gstreamer things it asks you to put in, are the codecs to play mp3's./
[06:52] <VR^> gss6: yeah, thats what i'd like to know
[06:53] <avagant> You gotta install a bunch of gstreamer stuff to play mp3's.
[06:53] <polx> psui: well my c: patition is the primary partioion and my remianing two ntfs ones are logical and my hidden partiton in weisa32
[06:53] <avagant> gss6: Norma Jean WAS amazing.
[06:53] <ryan_> my add/remove applications program isnt in my applications menu any more.......how do i get it back
[06:53] <avagant> But only one the first disc they put out.
[06:53] <polx> mandriva 2006 detects/sees all my partitions
[06:53] <lansing> k ive got mp3 torrent but it came up wit an error sayin couldnt display '/home/user/desktop/mp3torrentsetup.exe
[06:53] <mnepton> there are forums on the official site. and the README and INSTALL files that came with it were good.
[06:54] <avagant> Ok, did you have firefox up when you installed the java plug?
[06:54] <RealFG> Hello all. What would you pick for a good RSS editor. (not reader)
[06:54] <wickedpuppy> lansing, ... torrents end with .torrent .. not .exe
[06:54] <wickedpuppy> :P
[06:54] <psusi> polx: if I were you, I'd format the drive and partition it sanely and install windows without all the adware the oem probably put in
[06:54] <VR^> mnepton: is it basically just dropping the files into /var/www ?
[06:54] <VR^> it looks that way
[06:54] <Borat> For everyone that uses torrents, just use wine and Utorrent
[06:54] <Borat> its so east
[06:54] <Borat> easy
[06:54] <lansing> ok do u have a website to were i can download one
[06:54] <mnepton> AHA!
[06:54] <mnepton> http://wiki.themixingbowl.org/HOWTO_TorrentFlux
[06:54] <avagant> lansing: Did you have firefox up when you installed the java and flash plugin?
[06:54] <VR^> no wine for me
[06:54] <cpk2> azureus is easy too...
[06:54] <Borat> sudo apt-get install wine, then downlaod utorrent, then wine utorrent.exe
[06:54] <Borat> easy
[06:54] <VR^> aha!
[06:54] <avagant> Borat: Wine was confusing and I couldn't get anything to work.
[06:54] <fildo> ktorrent!
[06:54] <lansing> wat u mean
[06:55] <psusi> azureus sucks donky dick.... bittornado for teh winz
[06:55] <gss6> utorrent kills my router lol
[06:55] <VR^> Borat: its nicer to run native stuff
[06:55] <wickedpuppy> lansing, ah i won't put the link here ... private message me or avagant ... he should know the site by now
[06:55] <ryan_> and its the fastest client in my openion (utorrent)
[06:55] <polx> psusi: i have reinstalled it a lot of times so it doesnt have the spyware
[06:55] <psusi> polx: partition it sanely before installing then ;)
[06:55] <avagant> Nicotine+ for the win.
[06:55] <VR^> mnepton: is that the guide you used?
[06:55] <Borat> avagant, its so easy to run wine, when you have it install like i said, all you neeed to do is click on the icon as if it was a normal program
[06:55] <polx> psusi: im just curious why i cant see my partitions with ubuntu, but i can see it with mandriva
[06:55] <avagant> Borat: I couldn't get aim or anything to work with Wine.
[06:56] <avagant> So Wine = lose for me.
[06:56] <Borat> im telling you just do what i said and there will be eternal happyness
[06:56] <psusi> polx: they might have set it up as a dynamic disk.... which I don't think linux understands
[06:56] <mnepton> VR^: i used the text files included with the Flux tarball.
[06:56] <Borat> avagant, thats why there is gaim
[06:56] <psusi> or at least not ubuntu...
[06:56] <mnepton> VR^: if you know LAMP, it's dead easy.
[06:56] <Borat> avagant, gaim owns aim
[06:56] <Borat> sudo apt-get install gaim
[06:56] <avagant> Although I want to play RO but can't. :(
[06:56] <VR^> mnepton: thanks for this. i already have LAMP installed
[06:56] <avagant> Borat: Gaim is so very ugly.
[06:56] <Borat> avagant, sudo apt-get install gaim-themes
[06:56] <psusi> polx: and can you be more specific about "doesn't see it"?
[06:56] <mnepton> VR^: seriously, you'll wonder why you ever bothered with Azureus :)
[06:56] <gss6> i just cant wait for edgy....xorg 7.1!
[06:56] <avagant> I wish ubuntu out of the box didn't look so ugly.
[06:56] <RealFG> I'm using Kopete and like it better than gaim.
[06:57] <VR^> mnepton: does flux also MAKE torrents?
[06:57] <Borat> avagant, it looks way better than aim, aim looks like sh1t
[06:57] <avagant> I'm gonna have to spend like 2 days configuring it to make it nice again.
[06:57] <ryan_> anyone know a virtual machine that will run xp in linux
[06:57] <avagant> I guess I'm old school.
[06:57] <avagant> WINE
[06:57] <MaKaTiGuY> guys how can i mount my other partition drive in ubuntu?
[06:57] <wickedpuppy> ryan_, that will be vmware ...
[06:57] <mnepton> VR^: never tried. i just use the included client in Ubuntu for that.
[06:57] <avagant> Aim is my number one.
[06:57] <gss6> vmware if you wanna be stupid
[06:57] <Borat> ryan_, use VMware or soemthing like that
[06:57] <VR^> mnepton: thanks, im gonna try this
[06:57] <RealFG> Any recomended RSS editing tools?
[06:57] <ryan_> wickepuppy thats what i thought
[06:57] <avagant> k0rd: If you are having trouble you can always IM me.
[06:57] <polx> psusi: what i mean...is that when you run the parition tools in the live cd or try to install it...it recognises my hard-drive as unpartitioned and asks me to partition it. Whereas with mandriva and FC intallation recognises my partitions
[06:58] <lansing> avagant could u private message me a website to get mp3 downloaders
[06:58] <gss6> gaim is pretty awesome
[06:58] <gss6> i use it when in on a windows box
[06:58] <Borat> lansing, use torrents
[06:58] <gss6> i like www.meebo.com
[06:58] <avagant> I'm always on aim usually when on Windows, but I think I've used gaim like twice since getting ubuntu.
[06:58] <gss6> i love the alias' on gaim
[06:58] <avagant> I do like their IRC clients on here, however mIRC will always be my baby.
[06:58] <Borat> i love gaim, especially the fact that it has aliases
[06:58] <Borat> and other features
[06:58] <psusi> polx: my only guess is that the drive is a dynamic disk, which I didn't think any linux distro supported, but maybe the others do....
[06:59] <gu014> i am trying to change the capture device in tvtime  in the config file is says /dev/video0 but when i load tvtime it goes to /dev/video1 and is giving me a blue screen? could anyone offer a suggestion?
[06:59] <Borat> Xirc works for me
[06:59] <BHSPitLappy> gaim ftw
[06:59] <polx> what do you mean by dynamic discs
[06:59] <Borat> hell yes
[06:59] <RealFG> ok later.
[06:59] <Borat> gu014, have you used mythTV?
[06:59] <avagant> lansing: Your best bet if you like things similar to Azarus is Nicotine which is alot like Soulseek.
[06:59] <psusi> polx: starting with win2k MS introduced a different method of partitioning disks that they call "dynamic disks"
[06:59] <BHSPitLappy> avagant, why the hell do you like mirc
[06:59] <avagant> BHSPitLappy: Because it's simple. I like things simple.
[06:59] <lansing> k where do i get it from
[06:59] <gu014> Borat: yes, but..i want to attempt this before i get into that
[07:00] <avagant> Do some googlin!
[07:00] <Borat> o
[07:00] <avagant> Haha lansing, there's a bunch of topics on the web. Hold on.
[07:00] <BHSPitLappy> avagant, how is it more simple than xchat
[07:00] <lansing> k
[07:00] <avagant> BHSPitLappy: Xchat confuses me.
[07:00] <BHSPitLappy> ??
[07:00] <gu014> Borat: mythtv can be run in a window mode right?
[07:00] <BHSPitLappy> that's confusing in itself
[07:00] <Borat> gu014, have you searched the forums? there should be some info on that, its not my point of expertise, but google it.
[07:00] <polx> psusi: how do i know whether they are dynamic discs or not...i am using acrois' partitioning tool
[07:00] <gss6> so torrentflux doesnt take much system resources?
[07:00] <gss6> well, cpu
[07:00] <Borat> gu014, its not my point of expertise
[07:01] <psusi> polx: I'm not sure actually... and don't know what acrois is... what does fdisk say?
[07:01] <BHSPitLappy> Acronis
[07:01] <avagant> Well like I said I'm not computer wiz (Took me this long to get sound to work right had ubuntu for 2 weeks)
[07:01] <avagant> "no computer wiz"
[07:01] <host_> avagant, what about xchat confuses you?
[07:01] <avagant> Neither can I type anymore apparently.
[07:01] <lansing> pvm me  once u find it k
[07:01] <polx> psusi: says that my c: is primary and the rest are logical
[07:01] <Borat> Xchat is nice
[07:01] <psusi> polx: I mean in linux
[07:02] <psusi> polx: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[07:02] <host_> I like xchat
[07:02] <avagant> Well I'm use to being able to see who's in the room, and you have to open up all these windows PLUS I don't know perl and python and I like me some scripts.
[07:02] <mnepton> avagant: looks like you typed the words "any more" just fine :P
[07:02] <avagant> mnepton: It was a one in a million.
[07:02] <avagant> :)
[07:02] <BHSPitLappy> avagant, I have no idea what you're talking about
[07:02] <avagant> Dang it'd be nice if my firefox would work once and a while.
[07:02] <DHN_WP> Hi, I'm having booting the LiveCD (desktop i386 6.06.1) on my desktop and laptop, is it possible that they're not supported?
[07:02] <Borat> does anyone here know perl or python?
[07:03] <DHN_WP> *having trouble*
[07:03] <avagant> I had to pop open some window or something.
[07:03] <gss6> my buddy keeps trying to make me try suse
[07:03] <wickedpuppy> Borat, #perl or #python
[07:03] <mnepton> DHN_WP: did you run the CD verification check?
[07:03] <gss6> im bout to punch him in the face
[07:03] <avagant> gss6: I considered it myself.
[07:03] <kakalto> how can I uninstall one package and install another in the same command
[07:03] <BHSPitLappy> avagant, mIRC has multiple windows, not xchat... maybe you've confused them
[07:03] <kakalto> ?
[07:03] <host`> avagant, you can see who all is in the room
[07:03] <Borat> wickedpuppy: what do you use it for?
[07:03] <DHN_WP> mnepon: I tried, it just died when I tried running that.
[07:03] <avagant> I don't know I had trouble, I'm using Konversation and that's fine enough for me.
[07:03] <wickedpuppy> Borat, use what for ? perl or python ? scripting of course ... what else ?
[07:03] <host`> the userlist is slightly hidden at first though, you have to click on it and scroll it over a little to the left
[07:03] <avagant> Although the newest conversation is nowhere to be found.
[07:03] <mnepton> DHN_WP: md5sum the image, and if it's right, burn it again at no more than 4x speed
[07:03] <avagant> "Konversation"
[07:03] <polx> psusi: ill give it a go in the live cd terminal
[07:04] <gss6> and i tried mandriva, but the xgl support made windows look like a stability god
[07:04] <Borat> wickedpuppy: like what do you use scripting for? im new to this and im interested.
[07:04] <BHSPitLappy> avagant, http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1120/xchatkm8.png
[07:04] <avagant> mnepton: Maybe that's why every install disc I've burned hasn't worked right after the first time.
[07:04] <DHN_WP> mnepton: I did try md5sum, it's the right image.  I tried the image with VirtualPC, same result.
[07:04] <Geoffrey2> avagant, anything in particular about Firefox that doesn't work for you?
[07:04] <MaKaTiGu1> why is it that when i mount a drive , i get permission denied
[07:04] <mnepton> MaKaTiGu1: because you need sudo
[07:04] <BHSPitLappy> I can understand the firefox thing, firefox crashes for me AT LEAST once daily
[07:05] <avagant> Geoffrey2: Well say I click on a link.
[07:05] <gss6> firefox crashes like a mfer for me
[07:05] <MaKaTiGu1> mnepton: how do i do that
[07:05] <avagant> It shows that I'm going TO THE link in the status bar, but it stays on the original page I was on.
[07:05] <wickedpuppy> Borat, there are plenty of uses for scripts ... for example javascript is for web apps ... perl is used widely in bioinformatics .. it has very very good regular expression functions ... python is also used in web ... google use python
[07:05] <avagant> I have an internet connection obviously.
[07:05] <gss6> mine crashes clear out
[07:05] <mnepton> sudo mount -t type /source/device /mount/point
[07:05] <gansinho> what should I do if my bluetooth dongle is not in the "supported list" ? is there any way to make it work?
[07:05] <avagant> Mine actually works great with flash and everything else.
[07:05] <BHSPitLappy> ganadist, is it not working?
[07:05] <avagant> Just won't go to any pages I need to go to.
[07:06] <wickedpuppy> Borat, if you want to discuss about scripting .. pls private message me .. this is not a channel for it
[07:06] <avagant> I just want a script to show people what I'm playing in xmms. Haha.
[07:06] <kakalto> anyone?
[07:06] <DHN_WP> mnepton: With VirtualPC, it just dies when I try to test the CD for defects
[07:06] <Geoffrey2> hmm, interesting...I have no problems with Firefox at all, well, nothing stability related anyway
[07:06] <avagant> I can't find one anywhere.
[07:06] <mnepton> DHN_WP: re-burn the CD at a slow speed
[07:06] <avagant> Geoffrey2: I don't know if it's stability or what.
[07:06] <DHN_WP> mnepton: So I'm not sure if reburning it would help
[07:06] <gss6> well,i do use automatix
[07:06] <gss6> lol
[07:06] <polx> i am quite desperate to use ubuntu because it looks like only ditro that doesnt contain crap yet suit my laptop
[07:06] <avagant> mnepton: Is it normal for the livecd's to die after the first install?>
[07:07] <mnepton> avagant: nope
[07:07] <kakalto> when I apt-get -f install, it won't install because there's a package blocking. When I try to uninstall that package individually, it complains about the former - and unmet dependencies
[07:07] <DHN_WP> mnepton: Are you sure reburning it would help? I don't want to waste another CD.
[07:07] <BHSPitLappy> desparate to use, eh
[07:07] <BHSPitLappy> polx, what's stopping you
[07:07] <mnepton> DHN_WP: if the md5sum of the .iso is correct, the only two suspects are a bad burn, or seriously problematic hardware. one you can try to fix, one you cannot.
[07:07] <Borat> wickedpuppy: just was interested in the basics, thanks
[07:08] <wickedpuppy> Borat, ok .. you can start with bash
[07:08] <DHN_WP> mnepton: OK, I'll try that
[07:08] <polx> BHSPitLappy: well firstly i cant install ubuntu...and im currently writing my thesis and so i dont want screw around to much
[07:08] <lansing> any sugestions on programs
[07:08] <gss6> it could be crappy discs too
[07:08] <host`> programs for what lansing ?
[07:08] <Borat> wikedpuppy, do i have to register to the server to private message?
[07:08] <k0rd> woot!
[07:08] <k0rd> mp3 :-D
[07:08] <BHSPitLappy> polx, why can't you
[07:09] <lansing> mp3s
[07:09] <baconbacon> polx youre making a regular backup of your thesis stuff right? I always ask
[07:09] <k0rd> lol never thought i'd be happy about being able to play mp3's
[07:09] <BHSPitLappy> exit light!
[07:09] <polx> just first quick question...
[07:09] <avagant> Cause the disc I have now won't last another install.
[07:09] <baconbacon> enter night?
[07:09] <BHSPitLappy> :)
[07:09] <avagant> k0rd: Did you figure it out?
[07:09] <gss6> usbdrives are a god
[07:09] <polx> is there a terminal window in live cd?
[07:09] <BHSPitLappy> polx, yes
[07:09] <host`> how do I change my administrator password?
[07:09] <avagant> If so then HURRAY
[07:09] <BHSPitLappy> host`, you shouldn't have one
[07:09] <snoops> yes polx
[07:09] <mnepton> host`: there is no root password on Ubuntu
[07:10] <host`> I've changed my root password, but apparently admin is different
[07:10] <BHSPitLappy> umm
[07:10] <BHSPitLappy> no
[07:10] <host`> yes
[07:10] <psusi> polx: in any linux distro you can always switch back to the old school text tty by hitting ctrl-alt-f1
[07:10] <polx> hmm cant seem to find it
[07:10] <BHSPitLappy> administrator is a windows thing
[07:10] <mnepton> host`: why would you do that?
[07:10] <host`> I know
[07:10] <avagant> I stil can't get to a website..haha
[07:10] <polx> ahh thank tou
[07:10] <polx> *you
[07:10] <lansing> darn
[07:10] <mnepton> host`: root has no password for a good reason. you shouldn't give that account a password.
[07:10] <avagant> Yah sorry lansing.
[07:10] <spanglesontoast> is there a proper way of installing cedega ?
[07:10] <lansing> np
[07:10] <avagant> Google Nicotine+
[07:10] <lansing> k
[07:10] <host`> when I open something like synaptic or any kind of administrative thing it asks for a password
[07:11] <gss6> i did just to quit sudo'ing all the time
[07:11] <avagant> It's pretty much alot like limewire and frostwire.
[07:11] <snoops> host` do you mean the prompt when you try to install something etc? Right that's your accounts password
[07:11] <mnepton> host`: right. *your* password.
[07:11] <host`> I just type in my users password, if I type in my roots password it doesn't let me in
[07:11] <psusi> host` it wants YOUR password
[07:11] <host`> that's the same password for sudo too
[07:11] <avagant> Be careful with root!
[07:11] <host`> right
[07:11] <Shoia1> now a day in free cd ship-it request which version ship-it
[07:11] <host`> I know to be careful with root
[07:11] <avagant> I know, it's a fair warning to everyone. (Experienced root/ubuntu breaker)
[07:12] <host`> that just doesn't seem to make sense, why would I need to type the same password I typed to log into gnone to install some stuff
[07:12] <gss6> i only do it so i dont have to type sudo this sudo that
[07:12] <mnepton> Shoia1: Ship-It is Dapper. there will be no Edgy via Ship-It.
[07:12] <polx> ok...i just did a sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda ...and it shows that that hda 1 - hpfs/ntfs boot, hda2 extended, hda3-dell utility hda5 hpfs-ntfs hda6-hpfs
[07:12] <avagant> It could complicate things in the long run.
[07:12] <Shoia1> ok
[07:12] <Tru7h> gss6: If you don't like typing sudo, you'd better stick to Windows. ;)
[07:12] <psusi> host` because that is how sudo is configured by default... it wants you to confirm your password to make sure you didn't wander off and someone else came by before granting you root access
[07:12] <polx> does that look like i have dymanic discs?
[07:13] <mnepton> host`: your user is part of the small group of users that have the right to perform admin tasks. so, knowing that, Ubuntu just makes sure you are you.
[07:13] <host`> it's just a pain in the neck
[07:13] <avagant> And don't ever -R anything in /usr or /usr/bin either.
[07:13] <psusi> polx: nope... looks normal to me
[07:13] <lansing> hey avagant got ? can u pvm me
[07:13] <gss6> after im done with my task, i exit out
[07:13] <gansinho> please, I need some help, I'm trying to connect my cellphone to my pc via bluetooth, however my dongle is not supported, is there anything I can do?
[07:13] <host`> and I can change it, I'll mess around later and figure out how
[07:13] <avagant> Oh and if you are root hit ctrl d
[07:13] <psusi> polx: have you tried the alternate install cd?
[07:13] <gss6> no edgy via ship-it...wtf
[07:13] <avagant> if you want to get back to your user name.
[07:13] <mnepton> host`: it's far more secure than the usual su to root. lots of Unices are using sudo exclusively (OSX being one of the others).
[07:14] <DHN_WP> What should I expect from Ubuntu? I have only used Mandrake before.
[07:14] <psusi> gss6: it isn't out yet
[07:14] <avagant> ARG OSX
[07:14] <BHSPitLappy> ganadist, connect it how, just to sent files over?
[07:14] <host`> I've just been hitting ctrl+alt+f1 and su to root
[07:14] <morghanphoenix> I keep having problems with my cd & dvd drives. They'll act like they're reading when there's nothing there and crash KDE almost daily, I'm not talking session restart crash, I'm talking power down restarts.
[07:14] <mnepton> psusi: even when it is out Ship-It will remain Dapper. or that's the last i heard.
[07:14] <avagant> Well to "un-root" in the terminal you hit ctrl+d
[07:14] <avagant> I just figured that one out.
[07:15] <avagant> Thanks aztek.
[07:15] <polx> psusi: alternate cd...the one that uses the traditional installation?
[07:15] <psusi> host`: you can just login as root with no pw from the console
[07:15] <psusi> polx: yes
[07:15] <Tru7h> How do you get root?
[07:15] <avagant> sudo bash or su
[07:15] <mnepton> Tru7h: sudo su
[07:15] <avagant> i've used sudo bash
[07:15] <polx> psusi: thanks...
[07:15] <Tru7h> mnepton: Thanks.
[07:15] <morghanphoenix> Add a root password, works better for me.
[07:15] <host`> how do you do that psusi ?
[07:15] <fildo> brothel . pay money. root
[07:15] <polx> oh well another set back
[07:15] <psusi> sudo -s is shorter than sudo su
[07:16] <mnepton> host`: just use sudo su
[07:16] <gss6> psusi, it sounded like mnepton said that there will be no edgy ship-it
[07:16] <Borat> isnt it sudo sw?
[07:16] <host`> ahh
[07:16] <mnepton> host`: (if you *have* to)
[07:16] <avagant> I played around with a Windows command term the other day and I was like whaaa?
[07:16] <psusi> host` enter 'root' when prompted for the login name on the tty
[07:16] <DHN_WP> Does Ubuntu use a packaging system?
[07:16] <mnepton> !apt-get
[07:16] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:16] <[NP] Tangent> !synaptic
[07:16] <Seveas> psusi, sudo -i is better
[07:16] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[07:16] <avagant> Borat: I honestly don't know the right way, I've been using sudo bash
[07:16] <Seveas> sudo bash is bad
[07:16] <psusi> I'm prety sure edgy will be ship-it once it is released
[07:16] <Madpilot> DHN_WP, it uses apt
[07:17] <Seveas> sudo -i is the one true way of getting a safe root shell
[07:17] <psusi> hey Seeveas, long time no see
[07:17] <Seveas> sudo su - also works for that though
[07:17] <mnepton> the correct way is to use sudo for all commands. but ifnecessary, use sudo su.
[07:17] <Borat> avagant wtf lol
[07:17] <psusi> I usually use -s since I like keeping crap in my home directory ;)
[07:17] <gss6> i should be getting my dapper ship it soon, or just in time for edgy...go figure
[07:17] <avagant> Looks like I'm going to have to look up some more commands then. Haha
[07:17] <mnepton> Seveas: mornin' :)
[07:17] <guest_> hi
[07:17] <psusi> if I REALLY need a root shell, I boot into single user mode ;)
[07:17] <Seveas> hi mnepton
[07:18] <Borat> i have finnaly converted my mom into using ubuntu
[07:18] <guest_> how are you
[07:18] <Borat> mission accomplished
[07:18] <avagant> I never knew about sudo -s or -i or anything.
[07:18] <Seveas> \o/ Borat
[07:18] <fildo> haha
[07:18] <Tru7h> Borat: Very well done. My mother has difficulty fathoming the concept of an alternate operating system.
[07:18] <avagant> I don't know if I'm completely converted, I do miss Windows a bit.
[07:18] <DHN_WP> who's lilo?
[07:18] <Borat> i did the wallpaper trick,
[07:18] <Tru7h> I still use Windows for agming.
[07:18] <Tru7h> gaming*
[07:18] <Borat> where you take a screen of the screen
[07:19] <avagant> Hahaha
[07:19] <Borat> same here, i just run ubuntu on my lappy
[07:19] <avagant> Borat: I had that for a while when I was running fluxbox.
[07:19] <efrancolaporte> hey i know i come here way too often but...
[07:19] <avagant> A screen of my gnome screen.
[07:19] <Tru7h> I've got three desktops. One is WinXP Pro, one is Ubuntu, and one has them both on dual boot.
[07:19] <Borat> adios guys, im going to sleep
[07:19] <lansing> for nicotine install wat one .bz2 or.gz
[07:19] <snoops> avagant, I hate that I still have to use windows these days..Ubuntu has made my computing experience so much more enjoyable.. oh well
[07:19] <efrancolaporte> OpenOffice's spellcheck doesnt work (seems disabled) i have no idea why.... helP!
[07:19] <fildo> i triple boot !
[07:19] <guest_> adios borat
[07:19] <Tru7h> I've also got a knoppix laptop.
[07:19] <fildo> redhat / kunbuntu / winblowz
[07:19] <avagant> snoops: Unfortunetly I've had nothing but trouble, but it's worth it.
[07:20] <avagant> I know more about an operating system now then I ever have.
[07:20] <host`> I don't like fluxbox, I was messing around in it earlier and ended up having to pkill it
[07:20] <Tru7h> I second that, host`.
[07:20] <efrancolaporte> how do you enable OpenOffice's spellcheck?
[07:20] <host`> icons appeared on my desktop all the sudden and I don't do anything but go into my other partitions
[07:20] <snoops> avagant, yep.. I still get strange things.. but it's all part of the learning experience
[07:20] <lansing> avagant wat one do i install .gz or.bz2
[07:20] <polx> BHSPitLappy: my problem with ubuntu's installation is that the partitioning tool in the live cd and the installation recognises my hard drive as unpartitioned
[07:20] <avagant> bz2.
[07:20] <avagant> But you've got to untar it and such.
[07:20] <host`> I couldn't*
[07:21] <psusi> I love the fact that I can do what I'm doing right now: chatting on irc, downloading bia bittorrent the iso of the livecd, and burning it, all in text mode while my X is borked
[07:21] <Madpilot> avagant, that sounds like how I got involved in Ubuntu ;) Now I tell people that I was too lazy to crack XP, so I learned an entirely new OS
[07:21] <Tru7h> polx: Try the alternate CD.
[07:21] <avagant> GRR web needs to work hold on lansing before yo udo anything.
[07:21] <BHSPitLappy> polx, and this is dapper?
[07:21] <lansing> k
[07:21] <polx> BHSPitLappy: but my hard drive is partitioned
[07:21] <polx> BHSPitLAppy: it 6.06.1
[07:21] <BHSPitLappy> ouch
[07:21] <psusi> hrm... Madpilot... do I know you from somewhere?
[07:21] <avagant> Madpilot: Well it started out with no sound on Windows, then sound off and on in Ubuntu.
[07:21] <avagant> So I've been fighting all of this from day one.
[07:21] <avagant> Now I have sound running in Alsa, purrin' like a cat.
[07:22] <gss6> im just afraid that when i get a job, ill have to provide support on windows and will forget mostly everything
[07:22] <gss6> lol
[07:22] <gss6> college for Comp Info Sys
[07:22] <Shadow_mil> :)
[07:22] <fildo> lol
[07:22] <Madpilot> psusi, I'm on the #ubuntu channels far too much, and some other Freenode channels...
[07:22] <psusi> possibly days gone by on Effnet where I was known as |Phreak|.... but more likely... are you a motu?
[07:22] <Tru7h> avagant: Did you just re-download your sound card driver?
[07:22] <avagant> Tru7h: What on Windows?
[07:22] <fildo> phreakzoid !
[07:22] <Madpilot> psusi, not a motu, never hung on Effnet - sorry
[07:22] <Tru7h> Yeah.
[07:22] <psusi> ?!
[07:22] <psusi> woiiii
[07:22] <avagant> Tried it, but didn't know WHAT soundcard I had until I got Ubuntu.
[07:22] <gss6> CCNP is a huge bitch for everyones knowledge
[07:23] <polx> seems like my problem is quite unique
[07:23] <spanglesontoast> hey folks
[07:23] <spanglesontoast> how do I enable the desktop icons
[07:23] <spanglesontoast> for gnome
[07:23] <fildo> avagant: lshw
[07:23] <Geoffrey2> I have to say, the Ubuntu version numbering system is strange...I'm sure there's a reason for it, but it looks strange to me anyway
[07:23] <avagant> Windows, fildo?
[07:23] <efrancolaporte> how do you enable OpenOffice's spellcheck?
[07:23] <Flannel> Geoffrey2: year.month
[07:23] <avagant> Geoffrey2: I thought Ubuntu was going by the alphabet for a while.
[07:24] <Flannel> avagant: that's just code names
[07:24] <fildo> goto device manager
[07:24] <Shadow_mil> kubuntu breezy badger installed, upgrading to dapper :)
[07:24] <Madpilot> avagant, the code names will be roughly alphabetical from now on, apparently
[07:24] <avagant> NO I know what one I have now, fildo.
[07:24] <fildo> ah ok
[07:24] <avagant> But before, I didn't. I screwed up Windows and got Ubuntu and sound worked for the first time since I've had this computer.
[07:24] <fildo> how many ppl from aus here
[07:24] <fildo> !
[07:24] <avagant> Right out of the box.
[07:24] <polx> is the installation of ubuntu less superior than mandrivas?
[07:24] <bur[n] er> lol
[07:25] <avagant> The only problem is the whole alsa issue that I've been fighting since day one.
[07:25] <gss6> i like it better
[07:25] <psusi> polx: you tried the alternate cd yet?
[07:25] <loper06> need quick help. i can't shudown my box. it hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups" ideas?
[07:25] <wickedpuppy> polx, eh ah .. what a question .. btw windows has the worst installer
[07:25] <BHSPitLappy> polx, that's a matter of opinion...
[07:25] <efrancolaporte> anyone knows how to enable open office spellcheck it doesnt work on my system
[07:25] <Tru7h> It's possible to order Ubuntu CDs for free, isn't it?
[07:25] <Flannel> !tell Tru7h about shipit
[07:25] <wickedpuppy> yes
[07:25] <Geoffrey2> Flannel, ah...ok, so Edgey should be coming out sometime this month?
[07:25] <Flannel> Geoffrey2: the 28th, I believe. yes.
[07:25] <wickedpuppy> !schedule
[07:25] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[07:25] <psusi> holy christ! is it really almost time for another release?
[07:25] <Tru7h> Thanks, Flannel.
[07:25] <gss6> part of me just wants a way to straight install from c
[07:25] <gss6> d
[07:25] <bimberi> spanglesontoast: alt-f2 then 'gconf-editor' and navigate to /appl/nautilus/desktop and check the appropriate checkboxes (eg. volumes_visible)
[07:25] <spanglesontoast> ty
[07:25] <BHSPitLappy> polx, just a consideration, you could try doing your partitioning using another livecd/installer, and then hope it picks those up in the Mount Point step of ubuntu
[07:26] <gss6> instead of booting to live OS
[07:26] <Madpilot> fildo, there's also #ubuntu-au for Australian Ubuntu users
[07:26] <BHSPitLappy> should still file a bug report though
[07:26] <Flannel> gss6: Alternate SO
[07:26] <Flannel> gss6: ISO even
[07:26] <Geoffrey2> well, since I've been told it's version 6.10, I would assume then that meant a target date in October
[07:26] <gss6> good to know
[07:26] <loper06> need quick help. i can't shudown my box. it hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups" ideas?
[07:26] <fildo> cool thanks Madpilot
[07:26] <bimberi> spanglesontoast: oops it's /apps/...  not  /appl/...
[07:26] <avagant> I'm having a heck of a time with Firefox today.
[07:27] <Tru7h> bimberi: How do you do that spiffy italicising?
[07:27] <avagant> It doesn't want to go to webpages.
[07:27] <shinobi2> i am using  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 root=/dev/sda6 ro vga=788 quiet splash  ; but the words are still fat and stretched, i am on a 1280x800 screen , anyone know how to fix this for console?
[07:27] <spanglesontoast> ty though bimberi
[07:27] <avagant> I'm afrarid of how many dependencies and what I'll screw up if I got rid of it.
[07:27] <gss6> any good howto's on SMP support?
[07:27] <polx> for some reason im linux curesed
[07:28] <polx> FC gave me the shits, mandriva was buggy and heavy of crap
[07:28] <wickedpuppy> !ubuntu-au
[07:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-au - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:28] <polx> and now ubuntu wont install
[07:28] <avagant> polx: LIke I've mentioned I've had to do a fresh reinstall 7 times in the past 2 weeks.
[07:28] <bimberi> Tru7h: i didn't, unless your client is doing something to words between /slashes/
[07:28] <Tru7h> That's what it's doing. Cool.
[07:28] <avagant> I think I win n00b of the year award.
[07:28] <lansing> no dont know how to ur ? avagant
[07:29] <polx> i think i take n00b...i cant even install
[07:29] <polx> untill my thesis is out the way i cant play with the penguin
[07:29] <psusi> polx: did you try the altnernate cd?
[07:29] <avagant> I've been on like 5 different versions of linux.
[07:29] <avagant> In the past 2 weeks.
[07:29] <Tru7h> Is anybody experienced with setting up printers for Ubuntu? Mine's been giving me some difficulty.
[07:29] <avagant> Each one not working.
[07:29] <loper06> need quick help. i can't shudown my box. it hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups" ideas?
[07:29] <Geoffrey2> well, makes me feel a lot better about my copy of Ubuntu self-destructing a few weeks ago
[07:29] <avagant> DO NOT try gentoo unless you have like 2 days to kill.
[07:29] <Flannel> polx: burn slower, 4x
[07:30] <Xanter> avagant: hehehe
[07:30] <polx> no i have not tried the alternate cd because i am in confereace/meeting
[07:30] <psusi> polx: try that.. I have not even seen the new livecd installer yet...
[07:30] <DHN_WP> avagant: I tried it once, gave up after a day
[07:30] <avagant> I spent half a day installing it, and after about 8 hours it was only on package 88 of 300 and some and I said screw it.
[07:30] <Tru7h> polx: From my experiences, the alternat CD is more effective.
[07:30] <avagant> Why do they make it so hard?
[07:30] <polx> psusi: you only use the alternate cd?
[07:31] <avagant> I'm having issues with my live cd disc too, seems it just wants to die after the first initial use of it.
[07:31] <loper06> why is it so hard to get help?
[07:31] <loper06> i can't shudown my box. it hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups"
[07:31] <psusi> polx: I have yet to install dapper from scratch, I started running breezy release candidates, then just upgraded to dapper
[07:31] <polx> thanks guys for helping me out...after i finish my meeting...gonna go grab the alternate as see if it can install
[07:31] <avagant> I burned it at 8x.
[07:31] <Tru7h> It seems the Live CD only works well on faster computers.
[07:31] <avagant> Well that leaves me out then. Hah.
[07:31] <polx> psusi: is edgy the latest one correct?
[07:31] <Xanter> Tru7h: I take it installing with the live-cd on a 600mhz thinkpad would be a really bad idea ;)
[07:31] <Tru7h> When I tried to install ubuntu on this box with the Live CD, the thing wouldn't even boot up. No complaints about the alternate.
[07:31] <avagant> It takes me at least an hour and a half to get a full install if it works.
[07:31] <polx> psusi: the one in beta correct?
[07:32] <psusi> polx: that is what is currently in development, yes
[07:32] <Tru7h> Xanter: Aye, it would.
[07:32] <polx> Tru7h: does the alternate cd work better than the live?
[07:32] <avagant> The xubuntu disc won't even start.
[07:32] <Flannel> polx: yes
[07:32] <Tru7h> polx: Yes, the Live CD's been known to have more installation errors.
[07:32] <avagant> It gets to the "boot up" screen where the little progress bar goes and stops on the second message.
[07:32] <Flannel> polx: Alternate instlalation is the same as the install CD has been forever
[07:32] <Tru7h> avagant: That's the same problem I had.
[07:33] <avagant> Tru7h: So then alternative cd from now on.
[07:33] <aardfox> Hello everyone, I'm having a problem with beryl. When I go to "select window manager" and click on Beryl the screen flashes 3 or four times then goes back to Metacity. I'm sure I'm the 10,000th person to ask about this but I've found that the HowTo's are only helpful to a point.
[07:33] <kakalto> I can't install anything - my apt-get complains that a missing dependency is libuim3. when I try to install that, it complains about conflicting package libuim0
[07:33] <kakalto> can anyone help?
[07:33] <Tru7h> avagant: For sure. The Live CD is intended just for trying out Ubuntu.
[07:33] <loper06> i can't shudown my box. it hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups"
[07:33] <Tru7h> If you want to get the most out of it, you definitely need to install.
[07:33] <avagant> It does take a billion years to load.
[07:33] <snoops> aardfox there's #ubuntu-xgl which may be more helpful.. Have you got an nvidia or ati?
[07:34] <aardfox> ati
[07:34] <Tru7h> avagant: If it takes more than a half hour, I'd just ditch it.
[07:34] <avagant> Oooooo yah.
[07:34] <aardfox> ati x700 pro
[07:34] <Tru7h> avagant: I tried the Live CD on my laptop, was booting for an hour and then I killed it. The alternate CD had no troubles at all.
[07:34] <avagant> Half hour is REASONABLe.
[07:34] <snoops> and the fglrx drivers are installed for it aardfox?
[07:34] <physicsnick> hi, i just created a link to a bad resource in remote:/
[07:34] <physicsnick> now it won't let me edit or delete the thing
[07:34] <physicsnick> how do i get rid of it?
[07:34] <lansing> avagant did u get it to work
[07:34] <avagant> No my net refuses to work.
[07:34] <aardfox> yes, snoops
[07:34] <lansing> dam
[07:34] <loper06> why is it so hard to get help?
[07:34] <loper06> i can't shudown my box. it hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups"
[07:35] <Geoffrey2> anyone using Firefox 2 at this point?
[07:35] <Bips> kernel panic after compiling kernel-2.6.18.. error message attached http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26257/
[07:35] <lansing> iam
[07:35] <Tru7h> Obviously booting from a Live CD will take longer since the entire OS is loading from it. I prefer the alternate CD in many ways.
[07:35] <physicsnick> Geoffrey2, i am
[07:35] <aardfox> Geoffrey2 I've used it
[07:35] <Xanter> hrm, from the website (ubuntu.com) it seems that only the server install has a simple LAMP pack?. I want to use the machine for a backup webserver and as.. well basically a tv/media box. Any suggestions for what to go with?
[07:35] <avagant> lansing: There's a repository for nicotine+ that makes it 300 times easier to install.
[07:35] <aardfox> it's damn cool
[07:35] <snoops> aardfox, yeah.. then I suggest #ubuntu-xgl
[07:35] <aardfox> ok
[07:35] <aardfox> thanks snoops
[07:35] <avagant> lansing: You would basically have to learn how to compile and make the whole entire program with that tar.bz
[07:35] <Geoffrey2> is it a decent upgrade from 1.5?
[07:35] <avagant> I know because I tried.
[07:36] <tonyyarusso> Xanter: I believe you just need to install ubuntu-server.
[07:36] <loper06> i can't shudown my box. shutdown hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups". boot works just fine. HELP!!!
[07:36] <avagant> I have a question, has anybody had any success with last.fm?
[07:36] <lansing> o
[07:36] <polx> one problem that i had with my lappy with mandriva was no sound due to my ICH7 soundcard
[07:36] <aardfox> Geoffrey2: yes
[07:36] <polx> is that the problem with ubuntu?
[07:36] <Xanter> tonyyarusso: Will that give me the same basic choices for gui as the desktop version?
[07:36] <avagant> Oh you CAN sudo apt-get install nicotine but it's an older version.
[07:36] <lansing> is there an easy way to instll nicotine
[07:36] <avagant> the latest is 1.2.5.1 the one in the repositories is like 10.8
[07:37] <tonyyarusso> Xanter: I mean you can do your regular install and do that on top - all Ubuntu versions have the same packages, it's just a matter of what they install by default.
[07:37] <Geoffrey2> well, as soon as it's available in the repos, I'll have to install it
[07:37] <Tru7h> The repositories always seem to be out of date.
[07:37] <avagant> If i could get to the website I'd show you, lansing.
[07:37] <lansing> thats the one i got is nicotine 10.8.tar.bz.2
[07:37] <avagant> But firefox is not letting me do ANYTHING.
[07:37] <avagant> Ok you definitley need the latest version.
[07:37] <Xanter> tonyyarusso: kay
[07:38] <Geoffrey2> avagant, have you tried a different browser?
[07:38] <lansing> ok wat do i do
[07:38] <avagant> Ok google Nicotine+ trac
[07:38] <lansing> cus iam on the nicotine website it self
[07:39] <avagant> Geoffrey2: I'm about to shut it down and try it again.
[07:39] <k0rd> how do you get Nicotine?
[07:39] <psusi> you SMOKE... which is what I'm going outside to do now ;)
[07:39] <k0rd> can you apt-get?
[07:39] <avagant> well if you just want something you can apt-get.
[07:39] <Geoffrey2> avagant, after all, Opera is available for Ubuntu
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> k0rd: Yes
[07:39] <avagant> If you want the older version yes, k)rd.
[07:39] <avagant> If you want the newest one, you have to find the repository they just put up and add it to your list.
[07:40] <avagant> I have it up right now but can't get to the website.
[07:40] <Geoffrey2> what the heck is Nicotine anyway?  I keep seeing people talking about it in here?
[07:40] <k0rd> how do I get that program
[07:40] <lansing> i want wat ever one will work
[07:40] <k0rd> that displays temperature
[07:40] <k0rd> n shit right below the time?
[07:40] <avagant> Have you heard of soulseek, Geoffrey?
[07:40] <avagant> It's a port of Soulseek for Linux.
[07:40] <avagant> It's the only thing I ever use.
[07:41] <k0rd> whats the command for apt-get nicotine?
[07:41] <tonyyarusso> k0rd: Google "computertemp berlios"
[07:41] <jUggERNAUt1980> phew!  i made it!  haha
[07:41] <loper06> i can't shudown my box. shutdown hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups". boot works just fine. HELP!!!
[07:41] <loper06> i can't shudown my box. shutdown hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups". boot works just fine. HELP!!!
[07:41] <Geoffrey2> ah, of course, file sharing.....
[07:41] <jUggERNAUt1980> hey, has anybody here installed neverwinter nights on ubuntu??
[07:41] <aardfox> I'm trying to install cedega and it says that the "xlibs" dependency is not satisfiable, when i have xlibs installed
[07:42] <Tru7h> jUggERNAUt1980: Isn't that a Mac application?
[07:42] <k0rd> isn't there one
[07:42] <k0rd> to display the temp outside
[07:42] <k0rd> not the core temp?
[07:42] <mnepton> lansing: i answered your questions like an hour ago
[07:42] <k0rd> like the temperature in your zipcode?
[07:42] <k0rd> thats what I mean
[07:42] <Shadow_mil> whats the apt-get line to install gnome?
[07:42] <Tru7h> As far as I know, there's no Mac programs that run on Ubuntu.
[07:42] <Shadow_mil> apt-get install gnome ?
[07:42] <jUggERNAUt1980> Tru7h, it's actually a windows game, but there are resources for installing on linux, but i can't seem to get the game to work right.
[07:42] <mnepton> Shadow_mil: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:42] <Tru7h> jUggERNAUt1980: Did you use wine?
[07:42] <Shadow_mil> mnepton thanks
[07:42] <k0rd> whats the apt-get for Nicotine?
[07:43] <jUggERNAUt1980> it's telling me that it can't create mcop directory.
[07:43] <avagant> Ok now it works.
[07:43] <avagant> sudo apt-get install nicotine.
[07:43] <avagant> minus the period.
[07:43] <tonyyarusso> k0rd: Oh, then just right-click add to panel, select weather applet
[07:43] <jUggERNAUt1980> you shouldn't have to with the downloaded resource files and nwn linux client.
[07:43] <avagant> So wait is it better to sudo -i or sudo su then it is sudo bash?
[07:44] <Tru7h> jUggERNAUt1980: Not all games are supported by wine. There's a list on the wine website of supported games.
[07:44] <loper06> i can't shudown my box. shutdown hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups". boot works just fine. HELP!!!
[07:44] <loper06> i can't shudown my box. shutdown hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups". boot works just fine. HELP!!!
[07:44] <avagant> http://www.nicotine-plus.org/wiki/NicotineOnDebian
[07:44] <jUggERNAUt1980> Tru7h, you shouldn't have to with the downloaded resource files and nwn linux client.
[07:44] <jUggERNAUt1980> Tru7h, use wine, i mean.
[07:44] <Tru7h> loper06, stop flooding the channel. If you've asked your question three times or more and nobody's responsed, it means nobody knows how to help you.
[07:44] <k0rd> tony, I installed the harddrive package, but nothing is coming up?
[07:44] <avagant> Go the bottom of the page, in your terminal fill out everything it has in the box..
[07:44] <SpaceFrog> Does anyone know how I can get my Multimedia keys on my keyboard to work with programs like Rhythm box? The Volume control +/- works by default with Gnome, but I want my play/stop buttons to work with my Media Player. If possible the web and email buttons would be good, too.
[07:44] <Tru7h> jUggERNAUt1980: It depends. Where did you get the files from?
[07:45] <jUggERNAUt1980> Tru7h, there's a bit of a howto on the bioware website, and i seem to have followed the instructions correctly.
[07:45] <tonyyarusso> k0rd: It's part of the default Gnome-panel options
[07:45] <k0rd> i mean the berlios program you suggested
[07:45] <jUggERNAUt1980> Tru7h, from the bioware nwn website.
[07:45] <gss6> is automatix really that bad?
[07:45] <avagant> I could never get adesklets to work so don't use that.
[07:45] <Tru7h> jUggERNAUt1980: I'm not sure, sorry. I'm still inexperienced, but I'm sure somebody else here can help you.
[07:45] <mnepton> jUggERNAUt1980: NWN works fine on Linux. you are probably getting that error because when you launch the game it is trying to create a dir somewhere you do not have write privileges.
[07:46] <k0rd> where do I right-click again?
[07:46] <aardfox> I'm trying to install cedega and it says that the "xlibs" dependency is not satisfiable, when I do in fact xlibs-dev installed. Any advice?
[07:47] <aardfox> in fact have*
[07:47] <jUggERNAUt1980> mnepton, how can i set those write priveleges?
[07:47] <tonyyarusso> k0rd: On the panel
[07:47] <jUggERNAUt1980> mnepton, can i private message the error message to you?
[07:47] <puff> Evening, I finally broke down and bought an ipod nano, trying to use it with gtkpod.  It seems to have the songs on it but it won't play them.
[07:47] <avagant> Ok I spoke too soon.
[07:48] <avagant> My sound worked absolutely fine and now sound in firefox isn't working at all.
[07:48] <avagant> WTF
[07:48] <k0rd> hmm
[07:48] <physicsnick> alright x is down
[07:48] <physicsnick> what command did you want me to run?
[07:49] <physicsnick> oops wrong window
[07:49] <mnepton> jUggERNAUt1980: try launching the game with sudo once.
[07:49] <jUggERNAUt1980> mnepton, ok will do.  i'll let you know.
[07:49] <mnepton> jUggERNAUt1980: i don't play or use NWN, so exact errors won;t help. no direct experience.
[07:50] <host`> I don't need bluetooth, and i don't need RAID, how do I stop the services from running on boot?
[07:50] <CrippsFX> I installed vmplayer (and the associated kernel modules) using apt-get, and I'd like to run vmplayer, but I'm told that there's no /dev/vmmon ... so I try to do modprobe vmmon, but it tells me that there's no such module ... any ideas?
[07:50] <jUggERNAUt1980> mnepton, hmm...it gave me the same error, seems like it's looking for a .kde directory, but i'm using gnome, not kde.
[07:51] <host`> /dev/ isn't modules are they?
[07:51] <CrippsFX> host`, no, but it also told me that the vmmon module wasn't loaded.
[07:51] <mnepton> jUggERNAUt1980: NWN forums or channels may be of more help.
[07:51] <host`> try searching apt for that
[07:51] <host`> can't hurt
[07:51] <host`> or you can locate it
[07:51] <CrippsFX> host`, done. Didn't get anything.
[07:51] <jUggERNAUt1980> mnepton, ok thanks muchly!  :)
[07:52] <mnepton> jUggERNAUt1980: np, although i'm not sure how i helped ;)
[07:52] <CrippsFX> host`, well, I did the apt-cache thing ... I'm running find right now.
[07:52] <host`> 'locate vmmon'
[07:52] <deoryp> could someone help me out getting glx to work on ubuntu?
[07:52] <CrippsFX> host`, no output
[07:53] <mnepton> host`: if he just installed it he'll have to "sudo updatedb" before locate will actually locate anything ;)
[07:53] <host`> ahh
[07:53] <avagant> Ok, I swear like 10 minutes ago I had sound in alsa coming from xmms AND firefox.
[07:53] <avagant> And now, I have no sound in firefox but sound in xmms.
[07:53] <host`> try that CrippsFX
[07:53] <CrippsFX> host`, I'm on it.
[07:53] <avagant> AND it's giving me that stupid "make sure soundcard is not blocked" crap.
[07:54] <jUggERNAUt1980> mnepton, you helped by pointing me towards a better dirction.  i came here because i am having trouble with finding the correct info in the bioware nwn forums, and am still a bit of a n00b, so it's tough anyway.
[07:54] <Shadow_mil> Will apt sources cut people off?
[07:54] <Xanter> anyone happen to have any experience with a hauppauge pvrusb2 ?
[07:55] <niru> hello all
[07:55] <host`> hauppauge?
[07:55] <jUggERNAUt1980> hello niru
[07:55] <Tru7h> My laptop's resolution is funny. Even if I just run BIOS, it's all centered and tiny with huge margins. Can anybody help?
[07:55] <niru> I want to have my own repository
[07:55] <lansing> k wat do i do iam at the site
[07:55] <jUggERNAUt1980> Tru7h, what lappy do you have?
[07:55] <mnepton> avagant: Firefox's sound depends on no other app using the ALSA subsystem. it's an antiquated bug. kill any apps using ALSA, restart Fx, and sound will return.
[07:55] <teenprogrammer> hi
[07:55] <teenprogrammer> quick question ,. . .
[07:56] <teenprogrammer> Is it easy to make ubuntu dual monitor?
[07:56] <avagant> so i can't listen to music and watch youtube eh?
[07:56] <teenprogrammer> O_O
[07:56] <Tru7h> jUggERNAUt1980: Uhh... it's a Dell Inspiron 8000.
[07:56] <jUggERNAUt1980> anybody here know if there's an nwn forum on freenode?
[07:56] <avagant> That's gonna make or break me. Haha
[07:56] <mnepton> avagant: at this time, no.
[07:56] <Shadow_mil> teenprogrammer: yes, though its not ubuntu your making dual, its your Xserver
[07:56] <jUggERNAUt1980> Tru7h, sorry about your luck man, dell sux
[07:56] <niru> That repository should get packages from upstream and there should be automatic compilation also
[07:56] <CrippsFX> host`, lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/vmware-player/vmmon.ko
[07:56] <avagant> If I use esd and alsa I can seem to use it.
[07:56] <mnepton> avagant: and FYI, it's "GooTube" now ;)
[07:56] <avagant> Yah I know hahaha
[07:56] <host`> avagant, you can't watch youtube?
[07:56] <teenprogrammer> Shadow_mil: Ah, well . . .its weird, right now it is mirroring
[07:56] <teenprogrammer> O_O
[07:56] <CrippsFX> sonofabitch ...
[07:56] <Tru7h> lmao @ mnepton
[07:56] <sproingie> alsa must die die die die die die die ... kill kill destroy
[07:56] <Shadow_mil> teenprogrammer: you have two video cards?
[07:57] <avagant> I can't if I'm running xmms under alsa and firefox with alsa.
[07:57] <Xanter> mnepton: that is so wrong :-p
[07:57] <CrippsFX> host`, I'm running 2.6.15-27
[07:57] <teenprogrammer> no
[07:57] <CrippsFX> :P
[07:57] <teenprogrammer> i have
[07:57] <Tru7h> Google's taking down all the copyrighted stuff on YouTube... music videos and everything...
[07:57] <jUggERNAUt1980> Tru7h, if i would wager a guess, i'd say you need to ndiswrapper the proprietary drivers for your display adapter and maybe even your monitor.
[07:57] <niru> jUggERNAUt1980:Is there any tool available for this
[07:57] <MaKaTiGuY> how do i get permission when accessing mount drive
[07:57] <lansing> avagant? wat do i do wen i get to the site
[07:57] <teenprogrammer> DVI and VGA
[07:57] <teenprogrammer> ^^
[07:57] <avagant> Hold on lansing.
[07:57] <lansing> k
[07:57] <Tru7h> jUggERNAUt1980: I'll look into it, thanks.
[07:57] <avagant> Now I've got my own problems...haha.
[07:57] <jUggERNAUt1980> niru, sorry, i don't know.
[07:57] <lansing> lol ok
[07:57] <noiesmo> anyone done a successful upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[07:57] <niru> any body else knows
[07:58] <host`> CrippsFX, if modprobe didn't get it, then I don't know what to tell you, someone else may be able to help you
[07:58] <teenprogrammer> How do i dual monitor/
[07:58] <host`> what exactly does the error say?
[07:58] <Shadow_mil> teenprogrammer: I am not sure if its possable to do it like that... I have own seen it with people with two video cards...  Make sure you have two screens setup in your xorg.conf file and that your two monitors are using one each
[07:58] <Shadow_mil> teenprogrammer: pastebin you xorg.conf file
[07:58] <CrippsFX> host`, basically, apt-get install installed the modules for the edgy kernel, I just have to get the dapper modules (I'm running my dapper kernel on edgy ... ndiswrapper issues)
[07:59] <MaKaTiGuY> host: how do i get permission when accessing mount drive
[07:59] <niru> Shadow_mil:I want to have my mirror server setup and that should have a tool to see all updation that is going in the upstream as well as compile the package
[07:59] <teenprogrammer> where is xorg.conf
[07:59] <aardfox> if synaptic says I have a program such as Wine, how do I find it if it isn't under applications?
[07:59] <host`> aardfox, wine is all text based
[07:59] <Shadow_mil> niru not sure
[08:00] <host`> I believe
[08:00] <Shadow_mil> teenprogrammer: /etc/X11/
[08:00] <Xanter> aardfox: wine is usually run from the console
[08:00] <MaKaTiGuY> host: You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-hda1".
[08:00] <avagant> mnepton: But what's weird is I seriously was JUST running firefox and xmms under alsa.
[08:00] <aardfox> oh
[08:00] <niru> then how ubuntu is doing
[08:01] <host`> MaKaTiGuY, are you doing 'sudo' first?
[08:01] <MaKaTiGuY> host: what is the syntax?
[08:01] <MaKaTiGuY> ya
[08:01] <host`> what are you trying to do MaKaTiGuY ?
[08:01] <Shadow_mil> teenprogrammer: I do not completely remember, but I remember something about having to have two Xservers running.  Which I have not clue how to do
[08:01] <Tru7h> "Resizing partition... 1%" << This will take awhile...
[08:01] <Tru7h> Ooh, it went to 2%!
[08:01] <host`> text edit something?
[08:02] <host`> man, I'm out of here, it's time for bed, night
[08:02] <Tru7h> Sleep well, host`.
[08:02] <MaKaTiGuY> host: it is already mounted but when i access the drive, i cant view the content of that drive, no permission
[08:03] <teenprogrammer> Shadow_mil: How do i edit my xorg?
[08:03] <k0rd> hmm
[08:03] <k0rd> so i think Linux > Windows
[08:03] <k0rd> once you get the damn thing running
[08:03] <lansing> how do i remove programs
[08:03] <avagant> And now I can listen to youtube and xmms at the same time all the sudden.
[08:04] <avagant> WTF
[08:04] <wickedpuppy> lansing, the same way you install programs ... but remove instead of install .. like sudo apt-get remove program_name
[08:04] <avagant> is this whole .asoundrc thing even worth doing?
[08:04] <lansing> ok thanx wicked
[08:04] <Shadow_mil> teenprogrammer: you change xorg.cong
[08:05] <Shadow_mil> teenprogrammer: you change xorg.conf *
[08:05] <lansing> its locked my list directory wat do i do
[08:05] <Shadow_mil> teenprogrammer: this is really a better question for #xorg , becuase I have never tried to setup a dual screen
[08:05] <Shadow_mil> though that channel is dead often
[08:06] <Flannel> !tell teenprogrammer about xinerama
[08:06] <mnepton> k0rd: once you get Linux running, it tends to "just run." by contrast, Windows may take a little less time to get the basic configuration done, but then you have to add antivirus, firewalls, patches, and tons of other stuff that takes hours. and after that you need to spend significant time every day just keeping it running.
[08:06] <aardfox> where is the "c:/windows/system32" folder that wine creates?
[08:06] <Flannel> aardfox: ~/.wine/c_folder/ is C:\ or... something close to that
[08:07] <teenprogrammer> O_O
[08:07] <lansing> nvm got it
[08:07] <avagant> Anyone able to get two programs using alsa exclusively together with little to no weird set up?
[08:07] <Shadow_mil> apt would be so much better if it would install the things it has downloaded while downloading the new stuff
[08:07] <sproingie> " and after that you need to spend significant time every day just keeping it running."
[08:07] <sproingie> ballocks
[08:07] <Flannel> Shadow_mil: it does...
[08:07] <Shadow_mil> not that its not great now
[08:07] <kitsuneofdoom> is there any way to get an old fglrx package?
[08:07] <k0rd> mnepton, i've noticed, I've been using for Ubuntu for around 3 hours, and already like it better
[08:07] <Flannel> Shadow_mil: oh, you mean concurrently. That'd get messy
[08:07] <k0rd> gave me a good feeling that I finally got it running
[08:07] <k0rd> you know?
[08:07] <noiesmo> avagant, yeah I can get  sound from both a game or other app whilst using amarok
[08:08] <Shadow_mil> Flannel: I can see that, but still if you did it in the right order.  and asked for the packages in the right order...
[08:08] <teenprogrammer> well
[08:08] <teenprogrammer> thanks Shadow_mil
[08:08] <teenprogrammer> g2g
[08:08] <Shadow_mil> teenprogrammer: np
[08:08] <teenprogrammer> Bye!!!
[08:08] <Shadow_mil> cya
[08:08] <avagant> i just had gaim, firefox and xmms running not even like 3 hours ago with alsa all at the same time producing sound.
[08:08] <avagant> Now all the sudden it's like downhill.
[08:08] <james296> for some reason when I downloaded files using Automatix2, my System Documentation files used in Yelp are like completely empty except for About Ubuntu, what happened and how can I fix this? I already tried reinstalling yelp but that didnt work
[08:09] <aardfox> how do i add an address bar to the file browser? it makes me sad to not have the power of one
[08:09] <Flannel> james296: Automatix breaks things
[08:09] <aardfox> the option isn't under "view"
[08:09] <james296> so how do I fix this?
[08:09] <Flannel> james296: you'll have to ask people in #automatix, We have no idea.
[08:10] <kitsuneofdoom> is there any way to get an old fglrx package? I want 2.24.8, because it has been reported to work with my card, whereas the modern one doesn't. Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake, 32 bit, ATi Radeon 200M
[08:10] <avagant> I guess perhaps my problem isn't solved.
[08:10] <avagant> I thought there was a work around to making everything work through alsa.
[08:10] <Geoffrey2> can I install Firefox 2 alongside Firefox 1.5 without overwriting it?
[08:11] <Flannel> !tell Geoffrey2 about firefox
[08:11] <k0rd> hmm
[08:11] <k0rd> all of a sudden
[08:11] <k0rd> my connection just fucking sloweeddd down
[08:11] <Flannel> !language
[08:11] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:12] <k0rd> no one would happen to know the pop3 address for Gmail is, do you?
[08:12] <niru> may I know who is the mainatiner of the ubuntu
[08:12] <Flannel> niru: no one person is the maintainer of ubuntu.  What are you looking for?
[08:12] <snoops> k0rd I'm not sure they even have one..since all the revenue from gmail is from ads..
[08:13] <niru> I want to ask some questions on mirror server
[08:13] <lansing> ive got nicotine but it wont let me connect
[08:13] <AbortD> snoops gmail uses pop3
[08:13] <Flannel> k0rd: gmail does pop?  I thought you needed a scraper sort of thing.  There's a gmail pop interface thing... I think in the repos
[08:13] <bawnpa> pop.gmail.com  durr
[08:13] <AbortD> it tells you if you go to www.gmail.com
[08:13] <AbortD> and the outgoing is like smtp.gmail.com
[08:13] <AbortD> i got thunderbird set to gmail
[08:13] <Flannel> niru: you're looking to become a mirror?
[08:13] <niru> Flannel:I want to know how ubuntu mainatines there repository
[08:14] <avagant> Ok who here has sound working for more than one thing in alsa with little to no extra configuration?
[08:14] <mAIJK> Im using qTorrent and think my download speed is very low. What can be wrong?
[08:14] <avagant> And more importantly HOW DO I DO IT
[08:14] <bawnpa> anyone know why my clock in linux slowly drifts ahead by like 2 hours a week?
[08:14] <bawnpa> my system really freaks out when i set the clock back to the correct time
[08:14] <AbortD> plain and simple alsa sucks
[08:14] <niru> Do they use any automation tool for autoupdation and automatic compilation
[08:14] <AbortD> but
[08:14] <bawnpa> the bios time is correct wehn i reboot and look
[08:14] <Flannel> bawnpa: because computer clocks are always wonky
[08:14] <AbortD> avagant: it only happens to me with certain things i run in alsa
[08:14] <bawnpa> i seeked on google but i don't have the sorts of CPUs that people mention having this problem with
[08:15] <niru> Flannel:Any tool for doing updating and compiling to ubuntu package
[08:15] <bawnpa> arg well  linux really freaks out when files are modified dates are in the future :/
[08:15] <snoops> k0rd yep, sorry http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=12103 that's pretty handy
[08:15] <k0rd> :) ty
[08:15] <avagant> I was JUST running firefox/xmms/gaim and the sounds were going fine together.
[08:15] <avagant> Now all the sudden they are fighting for each other.
[08:15] <mnepton> bawnpa: use ntpd
[08:15] <AbortD> fighting for each other?
[08:15] <InwoD> Is Linux a genuine quality OS or just a peice of crap trying to be like Windows? i'm not trying to start a flame.... I just dont know jack about linux
[08:15] <avagant> For the right spot.
[08:15] <avagant> I have everything set to alsa.
[08:15] <avagant> I killed esd.
[08:16] <avagant> What's the deal?
[08:16] <AbortD> linux is a pos that's why you dont see a windows channel
[08:16] <mnepton> InwoD: if you're not trying to start a flame, why use such incendiary language?
[08:16] <Flannel> niru: I've got a link for you, let me find it.
[08:16] <InwoD> Sorry that's just me lol
[08:16] <InwoD> Is linux quality stuff?
[08:16] <avagant> If you can get your sound to work right, yah.
[08:16] <InwoD> I have a business running Windows 2000 and was considering Ubuntu
[08:16] <k0rd> ok, so whats some other add-ons to Linux that are useful?
[08:17] <Flannel> bawnpa: linux uses the hardware clock, with your timezone offset
[08:17] <InwoD> Microsoft Windows is expensive
[08:17] <avagant> isohunt.com?
[08:17] <O2> hello, anyone could tell some UML tools ubuntu can use?
[08:17] <ggilbert_> InwoD: Well, it's managed to hang around for about 15 years. There must be something to it :)
[08:17] <mnepton> InwoD: the fact that Google runs on Linux and not Windows should tell you something.
[08:17] <Shadow_mil> man fonts take so freaking long to install
[08:17] <bawnpa> so in /etc/timezone is "US/Pacific" an acceptable value?
[08:18] <mnepton> bawnpa: do not touch those files
[08:18] <nocti> InwoD, depends on your business.
[08:18] <InwoD> We make livestock identification systems
[08:18] <snoops> InwoD, for servers, absolutely, without a doubt, it's totally fantastic, same for solaris. For desktops..I've found ubuntu to be the easiest to use..but still had some small trouble..It's a learning experience, and the whole opensource philosophy is much more agreeable in my books
[08:18] <mnepton> bawnpa: /etc/timezone should never be edited.
[08:18] <nocti> InwoD, programming?
[08:18] <Shadow_mil> mnepton: funny... xorg.conf file says that too ;)
[08:19] <bawnpa> is sudo tzconfig an acceptable way to change it
[08:19] <Flannel> bawnpa: yes
[08:19] <lansing> avagant r u able to help ive got nicotine installed but it wont let me conect to server
[08:19] <mnepton> bawnpa: sudo cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/path/to/correct/timezone/stub /etc/timezone
[08:19] <k0rd> you gotta have a soulseek account
[08:19] <nocti> InwoD, if just internet and office stuff then linux is ok. if you want to run proprietary (ie M$ only) software then it's different.. and wine is not that good yet..
[08:20] <lansing> how do i do that
[08:20] <k0rd> Idk, I had mine from a long time ago
[08:20] <lansing> ok
[08:20] <avagant> Do you have the right ports fowarded?
[08:20] <lansing> i dont know
[08:20] <mnepton> bawnpa: but the answer to the clock drift problem is to install and correctly configure ntpd
[08:21] <mnepton> lansing: can i have 3 minutes of your time? seriously. 3 minutes.
[08:21] <InwoD> we still have to use Windows to run the laser markers but in terms of office use and information and ordering I would prefer a free OS
[08:21] <bawnpa> alright
[08:21] <bawnpa> thanks  you mnepton
[08:21] <InwoD> the production machines use to run on os2....but we had to go to Windows 2000 and its really expensive
[08:21] <lansing> ya
[08:21] <mnepton> InwoD: for document creation, e-mail, web browsing, and other tasks Ubuntu will serve you wlel
[08:21] <mnepton> *well
[08:21] <lansing> i need help wit program ne ways
[08:21] <mnepton> lansing: open a terminal
[08:21] <niru> Flannel:did you get any site
[08:21] <lansing> ok done
[08:22] <Flannel> niru: eh, I can't find the wiki page.  You might want to ask your questions in #ubuntu-motu
[08:22] <avagant> Ok, right now. I have Firefox running AND xmms and both are making noise.
[08:22] <mnepton> lansing: type this without quotes "sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella"
[08:22] <avagant> So how is it that that just happened?
[08:22] <snoops> InwoD, give the live cd a go sometime.. OpenOffice is included with ubuntu, which can also be installed on windows..so if you want to try the office suite which comes with ubuntu on windows, you can do..to get a feel for it
[08:22] <mnepton> lansing: supply your password when asked
[08:22] <InwoD> thanks
[08:23] <niru> Is that in same freenode
[08:23] <Flannel> niru: yes
[08:23] <avagant> I swear use nicotine but, eh. Nicotine is win.
[08:23] <k0rd> anyone in here use ubuntu for programming?
[08:23] <snoops> k0rd yep.
[08:23] <lansing> it says the followin pack have un met dependencies
[08:23] <avagant> Then again lately I've just been getting video game ost.
[08:23] <mnepton> avagant: then *you* walk him through creating an account. Gnutella requires no account. far, far simpler.
[08:23] <k0rd> snoops, what are some good programs for debugging, etc.?
[08:24] <boink> hello all
[08:24] <mnepton> k0rd: gdb
[08:24] <mnepton> lansing: what packages?
[08:24] <avagant> mnepton: It's not hard, you just supply a random name and password, configure where you want your music to go you download and that's it.
[08:24] <snoops> k0rd, well..I've been using SPE for python, and glade for some gui work, as well as monodevelop
[08:24] <avagant> Then again I've been doing it for years.
[08:24] <mnepton> avagant: oh, you can just make credentials up? what's the point in that?
[08:24] <k0rd> mnepton, included or where can I find it?
[08:24] <avagant> I dunno.
[08:24] <avagant> Fun?
[08:25] <mnepton> k0rd: /usr/bin/gdb
[08:25] <mnepton> k0rd: man gdb
[08:25] <lansing> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:25] <lansing>   gtk-gnutella: Depends: libdbus-1-2 (>= 0.60) but it is not going to be installed
[08:25] <lansing> E: Broken packages
[08:25] <Geoffrey2> ok, question remains...I have Firefox installed through the repositories...If I wanted to install Firefox 2rc2, can I do so without overwriting the existing version?
[08:25] <k0rd> does gnutella have a apt-get?
[08:25] <Xanter> k0rd: apt-cache search gnutella ?
[08:25] <Flannel> !tell Geoffrey2 about firefox
[08:26] <k0rd> ty
[08:26] <mnepton> lansing: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libdbus-1-2 && sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella"
[08:26] <puff> !tell puff about upgrade
[08:26] <lansing> k
[08:26] <snoops> Geoffrey2 I believe it will overwrite, unless you edit the install
[08:27] <Geoffrey2> Flannel, the website you're pointing me to isn't relevent
[08:27] <harrism> I have a rather simple question. How can I run a program through terminal when not being in the same directory? For example.. Say in terminal I am at Desktop and I want to run a program in /home/user  how can I do it? I know I can do ./file but just curious how to do this from outside the same directory
[08:27] <Flannel> Geoffrey2: yes it is
[08:27] <puff> I think I'm on hoary.  How would i check?
[08:27] <bimberi> harrism: /home/usr/file
[08:27] <bimberi> *user
[08:28] <Flannel> Geoffrey2: change the version numbers on that page, and it'll be the exact same.
[08:28] <bimberi> or ../file (for that particular example)
[08:29] <wickedpuppy> puff, cat /etc/issue or lsb_version -a
[08:29] <harrism> ok that worked, thanks bimberi, but what do you mean with ../file ?
[08:29] <wickedpuppy> puff, sorry its lsb_release -a
[08:29] <Ayabara> Is write support for ntfs stable/secure. If not, will it ever be?
[08:29] <mnepton> puff: uname -a
[08:29] <harrism> oh i see, nevermind. ok thanks
[08:29] <mnepton> Ayabara: it is not, and who knows.
[08:29] <puff> Yup, hoary.
[08:29] <bimberi> harrism: .. refers to the parent directory.  so if you are in /home/usr/Desktop then .. refers to /home/user
[08:30] <wickedpuppy> mnepton, how will that find out about the release ? curious
[08:30] <Ayabara> mnepton, straight to the point :-)
[08:30] <puff> Oddly, uname -a doesn't tell me what version, though it does tell me which kernel.
[08:30] <mnepton> wickedpuppy: kernel revision
[08:30] <wickedpuppy> mnepton, he wants to know the ubuntu version .. not kernel version ...
[08:30] <puff> Okay, using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[08:31] <snoops> Ayabara there is a project which seems to have decent write support..I haven't tested it yet..don't trust it yet
[08:31] <puff> Step one, aptitude install ubuntu-desktop.
[08:31] <klerfayt> hi what is default samplerate of usb mouse in ubuntu dapper? is it same as in winxp [125Hz] ?
[08:31] <mnepton> wickedpuppy: the kernel revisions are not the same for all releases. if you tell me a kernel revision, i can tell you the release.
[08:32] <Geoffrey2> will edgey likely use a more recent linux kernel?
[08:32] <Ayabara> snoops, I read a bit on the webpage, and they say it's still beta-ish
[08:32] <wickedpuppy> mnepton, well .. sure you can do that but why would you ? since there are direct ways to find out about the release version ... i am not saying you are wrong there ...
[08:32] <bimberi> !info linux-386 edgy
[08:32] <ubotu> linux-386: Complete Linux kernel on 386.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.17.10 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[08:32] <mnepton> Ayabara: the best bet is to use the ext3 driver for XP, and make any shared space ext3. Windows can read/write ext3 better than Linux can r/w NTFS. the wonders of open source code.
[08:33] <kraut> moin
[08:33] <mnepton> wickedpuppy: i just like the uname method because it tells me both release and current kernel.
[08:33] <wickedpuppy> mnepton, ok ... :P
[08:34] <lansing> that just screwed up my computer
[08:34] <puff> Hm, should I really apt-remove firefox?  Is it safe to assume that apt will leave ~/.mozilla alone?
[08:34] <YoMero> some one know where i can find info of how recompile un package? i mean i need include other options of compilation, but i don't know where began
[08:34] <Geoffrey2> oh, can XP read/write ext3 by default, or do you need to add something?
[08:34] <Ayabara> mnepton: I've tried that solution and it worked quite well. Only problem got was with some of my nordic files ( an o with a line through it ++ :-) )
[08:34] <mnepton> Ayabara: ext3 supports Unicode.
[08:34] <mnepton> Geoffrey2: there is an add-on driver
[08:34] <Ayabara> Geoffrey2, need to install a file system driver
[08:35] <YoMero> www.fs-driver.org/
[08:35] <snoops> puff if you did apt-remove --purge firefox then you'd be removing your ~/.mozilla I believe
[08:35] <puff> snoops: Okay.. any other advice before I dist-upgrade?
[08:35] <lansing> avagant my dpkg is messed up can u help
[08:35] <YoMero> www.fs-driver.org/ Ext2 IFS For Windows
[08:35] <YoMero> It installs a pure kernel mode file system driver Ext2fs.sys, which actually extends the Windows NT/2000/XP operating system to include the Ext2 file system
[08:36] <snoops> that ext2 driver supports large file system that ext3 allows..but minus the journalling of ext3..still completely usable in windows
[08:38] <lansing> avagant?
[08:39] <Asc> What's the name of the program that lets you select what program is used to open a type of file?
[08:40] <Asc> (I'm trying to change the default file manager in GNOME - so when you double-click a folder, it will open it in a program other than nautilus.  Anybody know how to do this?)
[08:42] <Arcainus> ok, i have installed ubuntu with swap on sda2, but when i do a free...it says swap 0
[08:42] <Arcainus> and also on bootup it says
[08:42] <lansing> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[08:42] <lansing>  this is the error i get
[08:42] <Arcainus> swapon: /dev/sda2: Invalid argument
[08:42] <Noah0504> What is a good Linux BitTorrent client that supports RSS feeds.  I'm looking for something kind of light.
[08:43] <k0rd> I think im going to bed
[08:43] <mnepton> lansing: you're runnign all this stuff with sudo, right? and you're just using apt-get?
[08:43] <k0rd> night guys
[08:43] <Squatch> What's the utility for formatting a new HDD?
[08:43] <lansing> ya
[08:43] <mnepton> Squatch: gparted
[08:43] <lansing> can u help me fix it
[08:43] <Squatch> Cool, thanks mnepton!
[08:43] <Flannel> Noah0504: why would you want a BTclient that supports rss feeds? why not a rss reader and a btclient?
[08:44] <mnepton> lansing: it sounds like your installation got seriously messed. apt-get should "just work" for something like gtk-gnutella.
[08:44] <Flannel> lansing: pastebin your sources.list (or have you already?)
[08:44] <mnepton> lansing: and, sadly, my time is constrained by people who have paid for Ubuntu support. :/
[08:44] <Noah0504> Flannel: Well, I suppose I can go that route.  I was just looking to combine the two.  Revision3 now offers Torrent feeds.  I thought it would make it easier to download the shows I watch on a regular basis.
[08:45] <lansing> well thats not fare
[08:45] <lansing> flannel can u help
[08:45] <snoops> Flannel many bit torrent sites have rss feeds..and you can put filters in to automatically get any torrents matching a certain name
[08:45] <snoops> azureus has such a feature, as well as utorrent
[08:45] <Stormx2> can I defrag a FAT partition from ubuntu?
[08:45] <Flannel> Noah0504: shrug.  I'm not a torrent person.  Anyway, if you want lightweight torrent clients, there are some built in, with a simple gtk frontend, a curses frontend, and a headless one, at that.  btdownload[tab] [tab]  will show you those options
[08:46] <Noah0504> Flannel: Thanks.
[08:46] <fuffalo_> what do i need to add to my sources.list in order to beable t run apt-get install mythtv?
[08:46] <Flannel> fuffalo_: multiverse
[08:46] <mnepton> Noah0504: if you have good LAMP-fu try Torrentflux (which supports RSS and is pretty light)
[08:46] <Flannel> !tell fuffalo_ about multiverse
[08:46] <grndslm> anybody know how i can tell which device the sound is going to??  /dev/dsp, /dev/audio??
[08:47] <fuffalo_> when i run it, with multiverse, it says ...Package mythtv is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:47] <fuffalo_> ....
[08:47] <Noah0504> mnepton: I might give that a look.  Thanks.
[08:47] <fuffalo_> oops sorry for extra dots hehe
[08:47] <Flannel> fuffalo_: pastebin your sources.list
[08:48] <Stormx2> Defragging a FAT partition from ubuntu, anyone? :)
[08:48] <fuffalo_> http://pastebin.ca/197313
[08:49] <Wass|> hi, I would like to know how to remove each 13 chars from each files inside a folder
[08:49] <Wass|> anyone can help?
[08:49] <Flannel> fuffalo_: you need multiverse on the normal dapper lines too, not just the backports
[08:49] <grndslm> Stormx2, no need for defrag in linux...therefore, i don't think it exists
[08:49] <Stormx2> grndslm: For FAT there is.
[08:49] <fuffalo_> flannel, do i just type multiverese at the end of lines 16/17?
[08:49] <grndslm> yea...but linux users don't use fat
[08:50] <Stormx2> grndslm: I'm a linux user and I use FAT
[08:50] <grndslm> seems silly
[08:50] <Stormx2> grndslm: Not as my /, obviously.
[08:50] <Wass|> my usbKey uses fat
[08:50] <Wass|> :p
[08:50] <aardfox> how do I edit xorg.conf?
[08:50] <aardfox> gedit opens a blank page
[08:50] <Stormx2> grndslm: Well I used it for my music. Linux and Windows can both read/write it
[08:50] <Flannel> Stormx2: I'm sure there is.  defrag doesn't mention fat32 in it's desc, but oyu could try it
[08:50] <Stormx2> aardfox: Sure you're typing the location correctly?
[08:50] <Wass|> aardfox: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:51] <Flannel> Wass|, aardfox, gksudo
[08:51] <grndslm> aptitude install defrag
[08:51] <snoops> Stormx2 windows and linux can both read and write ext3..without the terrible file size limitation of fat
[08:51] <bioticpro> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fZ3FRuH41w&mode=related&search= <pro linux spot from TechTV
[08:51] <mnepton> Stormx2: use ext3 and install the ext2/3 driver for Windows
[08:51] <mnepton> Stormx2: your data will thank you for putting it on a modern, fault tolerant FS ;)
[08:51] <Stormx2> I could
[08:51] <grndslm> ext3!!!!
[08:51] <Stormx2> Alright
[08:51] <aardfox> Oh, thanks. I was just doing sudo gedit xorg.conf
[08:51] <grndslm> heh...
[08:51] <mnepton> http://fs-driver.org/
[08:52] <grndslm> soo...how can i tell which device my sound is going to??
[08:52] <Wass|> aardfox: np
[08:52] <Stormx2> If I can, I will! But how would I go about it? I mean 80gb of it and the disk is pretty much full, I have no where to put it while I convert the partition to ext3...
[08:52] <Noah0504> Flannel: As far as RSS readers go, which to you suggest?
[08:52] <Sp4rKY> hi
[08:52] <Flannel> Noah0504: no idea
[08:52] <mnepton> grndslm: alsamixer
[08:52] <Noah0504> Flannel: haha, Thanks anyway.
[08:53] <mnepton> Noah0504: try the Sage plugin for Firefox
[08:53] <Sp4rKY> i'm trying to use unsquahfs but i get this error : "zlib::uncompress failed, unknown error -3"
[08:53] <grndslm> hmm....it tells me my card and chip...but not the location under /dev
[08:53] <avagant> How do you find out what version of alsa you have?
[08:53] <fuffalo_> flannel, is this better: http://pastebin.ca/197319
[08:54] <Flannel> fuffalo_: looks to be, yes.
[08:54] <fuffalo_> i still get the same error :(
[08:54] <aardfox> which "Device" section should I copy/paste http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=150854 into?
[08:55] <fuffalo_> here's the error: http://pastebin.ca/197323
[08:56] <grndslm> is /dev/pcm the default output for sound for onboard intel chips?  anybody know?
[08:56] <puff> Okay, just kicked off dist-upgrade, from hoary to breezy... how long should I expect this to run over a cable modem?
[08:57] <Flannel> puff: at least 650mb to download
[08:57] <BHSPitLappy> puff, are you serious
[08:57] <upgrdman> what do i need to install so I can use nvidias gfx drivers?
[08:57] <grndslm> i'm trying to get mp3blaster to work but it's saying "failed to open device"
[08:57] <Flannel> !tell upgrdman about nvidia
[08:57] <puff> BHSPitLappy: Come again?
[08:57] <BHSPitLappy> upgrdman, nvidia-glx ?
[08:58] <upgrdman> Flannel: thx
[08:58] <Squatch> Why is it that I have NEVER gotten a single response on the #kubuntu channel, and every time I have a question, someone answers within seconds of asking on this channel and it may not be the right answer but it always leads me to it after a bit of googling...
[08:59] <grndslm> because kde sucks
[08:59] <cpk2> lol
[08:59] <grndslm> heh...j/k
[08:59] <Squatch> lol
[08:59] <grndslm> it's just "different"
[08:59] <fuffalo_> flannel, adding the multiverse didn't get rid of the error http://pastebin.ca/197323 <-- am i using the wrong pacakge name or something?
[08:59] <cpk2> Squatch: you asked when people were arguing, i just now read back and saw your question
[08:59] <Stormx2> Who's clever idea was it to the ruin the MountingWindowsPartitions page? I have no idea how to add stuff to fstab now XD
[08:59] <Squatch> Well, it's what I chose at random a couple years ago when I was fiddling with Slackware, so I'm a bit more familiar with it than Gnome...
[09:00] <grndslm> gnome's all about design and looks....which i'm into...usability is incredible compared to any window manager or OS i've seen
[09:00] <cpk2> Squatch: did you want a gui to format?
[09:00] <Flannel> fuffalo_: you've done a sudo apt-get update
[09:01] <Squatch> cpk2: I guess I don't really understand the question...  I'm using KDE because I have some experience with it, albeit a VERY small amount.
[09:01] <fuffalo_> flannel, yes i have (just did it again)
[09:01] <Flannel> fuffalo_: apt-cache search mythtv has nothing?
[09:01] <Squatch> cpk2: Also, there seems to be a lot more apps readily available for it over Gnome...  Also, wanted to use KDev.
[09:01] <fuffalo_> oooh and now it works
[09:01] <snoops> grndslm, heh, I'd disagree with you about gnome's usability.. but, hey, it's all personal opinion anyway
[09:01] <cpk2> Squatch: you said you wanted to format a new hdd, were you looking for a gui for that?
[09:01] <fuffalo_> thank you flannel
[09:02] <grndslm> snoops...very true
[09:02] <Squatch> cpk2: Oh, yeah, I did a bit of searching and found qtparted.
[09:02] <Squatch> cpk2: All after doing a quick google for "gparted KDE" heh.
[09:02] <grndslm> i heart google
[09:02] <cpk2> Squatch: you can use cfdisk to make partitions as well
[09:02] <Beex> I don't suppose anybody could help me re-write my session scripts for an XFCE edgy install, could they?
[09:03] <Squatch>  cpk2: That the standard Linux Command Line partition tool?
[09:03] <Flannel> Beex: #ubuntu+1 is edgy support, and... I don't know if there's a #xubuntu+1... heh, try #ubuntu+1 though
[09:03] <Beex> Flannel: thanks!
[09:04] <cpk2> Squatch: i think so?
[09:04] <cpk2> Squatch: I used it but I was making the disk all one partition
[09:04] <cpk2> its pretty easy to use for that purpose
[09:05] <Squatch>  cpk2: Well, I just got a couple of 400GB SATA drives, wanting to partition them into one 10GB partition for Windows, and the rest I want formated in ext3 for data storage since I can get a driver for windows that can read that.
[09:05] <Squatch> cpk2: Just trying to get M$ and Linux to coexist peacefully >_<
[09:06] <grndslm> ok...lemme try again:  anybody use mp3blaster or another ncurses based audio player??
[09:06] <Flannel> grndslm: mpd is a common one
[09:06] <grndslm> k, will check it out
[09:06] <grndslm> i was really fond of mp3blaster tho, for some reason
[09:06] <noiesmo> crimsun, you here
[09:07] <fuffalo_> how do i run something as a different user (not root tho)
[09:07] <grndslm> su [name] 
[09:07] <cpk2> Squatch: well you can try cfdisk /dev/sd* or check out qtparted, if i remember correctly gtparted didnt like my sata drives
[09:08] <cpk2> Squatch: cfdisk *only* partitions, then you will need to format in ext3 or whatever, I forget the command for that though =P
[09:08] <Squatch> cpk2: I'm looking at it in cfdisk and it says it's only 400GB, should be 800GB, do I need to install some SATA drivers or something?
[09:08] <CaptainMorgan> how do I change the background-color of an X related bash terminal? Im looking for the specific file, not the gui related path....
[09:09] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: it'll be in your home dir ;)  .gnome-terminal maybe?
[09:09] <cpk2> Squatch: they are both on sda?
[09:09] <Squatch> cpk2: Yeah, in qtparted, I'm seeing sdb & sdc =/
[09:09] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, hmm.. I don't have Gnome listed.. Im running an emulator
[09:09] <cpk2> Squatch: why wouldnt it show them seperate when they really are seperate?
[09:10] <Squatch> cpk2: Thought it was set up as RAID0...
[09:10] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: well, try changing a file through the GUI, and then see what file was created/modified ;)
[09:10] <cpk2> Squatch: maybe it isnt? =O
[09:10] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, there is no gui, it's an emulator no Gnome or nautilus explorer etc..
[09:10] <cpk2> Squatch: I really dont know, I've never had to do much complicated stuff with my data storage
[09:10] <GlobalHavok> how can i delete a directory in gconf?
[09:10] <Squatch> cpk2: Yeah, and I always seem to find the complicated, retarded setups, they seem to search me out =(.
[09:11] <Squatch> cpk2: Well, in my BIOS and boot-up utility they're set up as RAID.
[09:12] <Beex> anybody know where to find .xinitrc in xfce?
[09:12] <cpk2> Squatch: i really dont know anything about raid =(
[09:12] <Squatch> cpk2: Heh, no worries =).  I'll figure it out over the next friggin YEAR or so lol.
[09:12] <Flannel> !tell Squatch about raid
[09:12] <Squatch> Flannel: Thanks!
[09:13] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, you aware of any .conf file maybe?
[09:14] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: nope, sorry.  Don't have a GUI
[09:14] <CaptainMorgan> is a terminal a gui?
[09:14] <GlobalHavok> No one knows how to delete a directory with gconftool?  :(
[09:15] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: no, it's a CLI
[09:15] <CaptainMorgan> if a terminal is not a gui, then I don't have a gui either, i simply want to change the back color of the terminal from frightening white to calm black
[09:16] <lansing> hey
[09:16] <grndslm> flannel, you actually use mpd?
[09:16] <Flannel> grndslm: no, I ssh in, no sound ;)
[09:16] <lansing> hey flannel wats that site to fix my source list
[09:16] <GlobalHavok> i use mpd, its great.
[09:16] <kandala> Hi all, anyone here using Ubuntu on AMD turion 64bit Duo core m/c?
[09:16] <grndslm> hmm....anybody here use mpd?
[09:16] <Flannel> lansing: you mean re-generate a new one?
[09:16] <Flannel> !source-o-matic
[09:16] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:16] <n0rk> hello, how change in ubuntu default language ? I have fr version of ubuntu, and i need to change to english
[09:17] <n0rk> fr = french
[09:17] <lansing> yah cus mines messed
[09:17] <GlobalHavok> grndslm: i do
[09:17] <grndslm> umm...why doesn't anything happen when i try to --create-db?
[09:17] <shriphani_> n0rk, no xperience here maybe you install lasnguage pack en-us
[09:17] <charlie> What is the best way to get support for streaming video in firefox (wmv files)? I haven't had any luck with any media players.
[09:17] <shriphani_> charlie, your media player ?
[09:18] <lansing> that site that avagant gave me
[09:18] <charlie> I don't care which, I suppose Totem is fine.
[09:18] <charlie> I install the multimedia codecs and the firefox plugin but no luck
[09:18] <GlobalHavok> did you set your directory in the conf file?
[09:18] <shriphani_> charlie, diddou download the m3u file or are you playing stuff from the website ?
[09:19] <kandala> anyone here using Ubuntu on AMD m/c without any problems?
[09:19] <charlie> shriphani_: It's a wmv file and I can play it find if I download it first, but it won't stream in the browser.
[09:19] <grndslm> yup...
[09:19] <grndslm> it was becuz i wasn't running it as root...but now it says it couldn't stat my music's home dir
[09:20] <shriphani_> umm charlie had s probs with totem here.... so i got vlc and then got the firefox plugin for it.... then it worked fine
[09:20] <mnepton> charlie: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[09:20] <charlie> shriphani_: ok, have you had any luck with dvd playback?
[09:20] <charlie> mnepton: mplayer won't work either.
[09:20] <shriphani> umm charlie yes
[09:20] <KEA0463> hello
[09:21] <mnepton> charlie: then those WMV files are using a newer MS codec
[09:21] <shriphani> i used the restricted formats page
[09:21] <KEA0463> my question is how do i make open office compatible with MS Word?
[09:21] <shriphani> KEA0463, it already is
[09:21] <charlie> shriphani: I installed the libdvdread3 package and ran that install-css script, but it still won't work. Something about an encrypted dvd.
[09:21] <KEA0463> really
[09:21] <shriphani> !restriced
[09:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restriced - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:21] <shriphani> !restricted
[09:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:22] <sykes^> When I turned off my computer yesterday the sound worked, I could listen to music and stuff, but now the sound is gone :/
[09:22] <charlie> shriphani: I've checked the page, as well as the help section that comes with ubuntu
[09:22] <shriphani> charlie, that page has stuff about enccpted dvd playback
[09:22] <sykes^> !nosound
[09:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nosound - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:22] <charlie> I will check again, thanks.
[09:22] <ozzloy> is there a way to install java 1.5 sdk easily on ubuntu?
[09:22] <sykes^> !sound
[09:22] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:22] <Flannel> !tell ozzloy about java
[09:22] <KEA0463> so i can open open office with word?
[09:22] <shriphani> umm charlie do you have libdvdread.css
[09:22] <charlie> shriphani: is that a package?
[09:22] <mnepton> KEA0463: no, but from within OO.org save as a format Word understand (.doc or .rtf or something)
[09:23] <sykes^> Anyone know why I have no sound? It worked yesterday
[09:23] <shriphani> wait lemme see if i got the right name
[09:23] <KEA0463> so i can save my apps as .doc and ill be good right?
[09:24] <mnepton> KEA0463: your apps?
[09:24] <charlie> Do you guys recommend enabling multiverse/universe for each section? (Updates, Backports, Security, ect...)?
[09:24] <shriphani> You can enable playback of encrypted DVDs with MPlayer,  xine and Totem-xine by installing libdvdcss2. Note that Totem-gstreamer can only play a DVD automatically when it is inserted into the DVD drive, but cannot navigate the DVD nor play it by selecting Movie -> Play Disc 'DVD Name' or otherwise.
[09:24] <KEA0463> papers i mean
[09:24] <ozzloy> Flannel: that seems to be java 1.4 sdk
[09:24] <MikeHawk> I've totally screwed up my xfce... how can I reset my default settings assoicated with it?
[09:24] <sykes^> Anyone?
[09:24] <lansing> help me plz
[09:24] <mnepton> KEA0463: yes.
[09:24] <KEA0463> ok thank you
[09:24] <shriphani> charlie_, that page has all the stuff ya need about encrypted dvd
[09:24] <charlie_> shriphani: Thank you, I will try it again.
[09:25] <Sp4rKY> i'm trying to use unsquahfs but i get this error : "zlib::uncompress failed, unknown error -3", anyone can help me ?
[09:25] <kandala> I am running ubuntu on my AMD laptop. The machine hangs suddenly and have to restart (using the power button). Anyone here faced this?
[09:25] <Wass|> ur amd becomes to hot
[09:25] <Wass|> :p
[09:26] <KEA0463> i got a pcg-k15 sony vaio laptop
[09:26] <shriphani> kandala, with kde i do have a few such probs but i switched to fluxbox and the probs disappeared
[09:26] <KEA0463> with ubuntu on it no problems
[09:26] <ozzloy> i'm looking for a javac with generics, sun-java5-bin is the runtime
[09:26] <charlie_> Do you guys enabled the back ports repository?
[09:27] <sykes^> Does someone have time to help me?
[09:27] <shriphani> charlie_, yup i do
[09:27] <kandala> shriphani: ok! Can you point me to the page from where I can install fluxbox?
[09:27] <Flannel> ozzloy: no, you want the sun stuff, which is 1.5, not the blackdown stuff, and the jdk is further down the page
[09:27] <Flannel> !tell kandala about fluxbox
[09:27] <charlie_> shriphani: What is it used for?
[09:27] <shriphani> charlie_, bleeding edge packages i think
[09:27] <shriphani> !backports
[09:27] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[09:27] <matti> Morning.
[09:27] <shriphani> yups
[09:27] <kandala> shriphani: Thanks :-)
[09:27] <charlie_> shriphani: thanks
[09:28] <sykes^> I got no sound today, but it worked yesterday. Help!
[09:28] <shriphani> np
[09:28] <shriphani> sykes^, umm can you turn on alsamixer for me
[09:28] <charlie_> shriphani: do you enabled universe/multiverse for source packages for all of them?
[09:28] <shriphani> charlie_, yups
[09:28] <POVaddct> MikeHawk: mkdir ~/tmp ; mv ~/.cache ~/.config ~/tmp      then log out
[09:28] <sykes^> shriphani: I'm a newbie, so I have no idea how to do that :P
[09:29] <shriphani> sykes^, double click on the Volume icon
[09:29] <sykes^> shriphani: Lol ok
[09:29] <shriphani> :)
[09:29] <sykes^> shriphani: Then?
[09:29] <shriphani> wait
[09:29] <shriphani> check the device
[09:29] <lansing> hey how do i fix my source list
[09:29] <shriphani> i think you click File
[09:29] <shriphani> lansing, source-o-matic
[09:30] <shriphani> !sound > shriphani
[09:30] <ozzloy> Flannel: oh cool thankd
[09:30] <lansing> i dont know how to use that
[09:30] <Squatch> So, I need my kernel source, and I'm looking in Adept, I've got a few different packages and I'm unsure of which to install.  kernel-source-2.4.27, linux-source, or linux-source-2.6.15.
[09:30] <ozzloy> Flannel: thanks
[09:30] <shriphani> gah
[09:30] <lansing> iam new to ubuntu
[09:30] <Squatch> Or something new entirely...
[09:30] <shriphani> !tell lansing about easysource
[09:30] <mnepton> Squatch: linux-source
[09:30] <Squatch> mnepton: Cool, ty.
[09:31] <shriphani> !tell sykes^ about sound
[09:31] <shriphani> sykes^, if what the bot says doesnt work then ask again
[09:31] <sykes^> shriphani: Will do, thanks
[09:31] <lansing> how do i open mysource list
[09:32] <shriphani> lansing, open for editing ?
[09:32] <lansing> yah n to look at it
[09:32] <shriphani> lansing, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:33] <sykes^> shriphani: Funny thing is that the sound worked yesterday, but not now
[09:33] <shriphani> sykes^, happens
[09:33] <shriphani> i had the same probs a week ago
[09:33] <fick> question, is it possible to install ubantu 5.1 in vmware, and reboot to have it detect hardware.
[09:33] <shriphani> i sorta fired up alsamixer unmuted everything and it worked
[09:34] <shriphani> whoa rms is old
[09:35] <fick> i tried switching to knoppix 5. using bcm43xx with fwcutter, and i now i cant get it to remove bcm43xx , i have tried blacklisting using rmmod and modprobe -r , and bcm43xx.ko is still there when i do a grep -g bcm43xx | lsmod
[09:35] <mnepton> fick: why 5.10?
[09:35] <fick> its the only distrubution that seems to work with my wireless card.....the bcm4318
[09:35] <mnepton> but why the ancient version?
[09:35] <sykes^> shriphani: Nope, cant get it to work with that guide. But I'm a totaly newbie on linux
[09:36] <fick> not even knoppix 5.01 with its 2.6.17 kernel
[09:36] <mnepton> fick: no kernel will support it until Broadcomm opens the drivers
[09:36] <sykes^> shriphani: I'll try to reboot once, might help
[09:36] <shriphani> sykes^, umm you have alsmixer on i suppose
[09:36] <sykes^> shriphani: Yeah
[09:36] <shriphani> unmute erything there
[09:36] <cafuego> mnepton: Uh, no.
[09:36] <shriphani> everything ^
[09:36] <sykes^> shriphani: Nothing is muted
[09:36] <fick> mnepton: drapper does not work at all with my wireless card and i have been trying to use ndiswrapper with knoppix with no luck at all
[09:37] <sykes^> shriphani: Gonna reboot, brb
[09:37] <shriphani> umm
[09:37] <fick> in fact everything was fine until i let 5.1 upgrade itself to drapper
[09:38] <fick> with 5.1 i simply borrowed a prism2 card, downloaded ndiswrapper-utils, loaded the bcm4318 windows dirvers using -i and -m and modprobe ndiswrapper, then one run of dhclient and we were good to go
[09:38] <mnepton> fick: you'll have more problems on an old release than you will configuring Dapper to use the card
[09:39] <mnepton> fick: or, you could just get a cheap card supported by MadWiFi
[09:39] <fick> with drapper i just get errors like invaild something when i modprobe ndiswrapper
[09:39] <cafuego> fick: 6.10 can do the same; you just need to make sure you blacklist the driver properly. Alternatively, a lot of people use bcm43xx just fine with the latest firmware files.
[09:39] <fick> or later it returned the ndiswrapper.ko did not exist
[09:39] <ozzloy> i'm getting this error, and google doesn't help:  http://xrl.us/r7a5 (Link to rafb.net)
[09:39] <fick> i did blacklist bcm43xx in modprobe.d
[09:39] <POVaddct> cafuego: do all bcm43xx cards run with your packaged firmware or only some selected ones?
[09:40] <ozzloy> how do i fix this? ^
[09:40] <cafuego> POVaddct: All 4306 ones, and some 4318 ones - though I can see rhyme nor reason as to why some work and some don't.
[09:41] <POVaddct> cafuego: thats the problem. f**k broadcom for not releasing any specs...
[09:41] <cafuego> POVaddct: Broadcom claim they're not allowed to.
[09:41] <kidbuntu> how do i install new winamp skins through the terminal
[09:42] <mnepton> fick: oooo ... Tukwila?
[09:42] <ozzloy> well i'm off to bed, but thanks anyways Flannel
[09:42] <POVaddct> cafuego: i think thats a lame excuse from them. ralink released theirs, so why should they be allowed and broadcom not?
[09:43] <cafuego> POVaddct: Dunno, I think I read at some stage the us govt. told them they were not permitted to release specs.
[09:43] <mnepton> cafuego: that's BS
[09:43] <Arcainus> how do i get rid of raid on my box?
[09:44] <mnepton> cafuego: *tons* of 802.11x chipset fabricators release specs for their chipsets. none of them have had their doors kicked in.
[09:44] <ozzloy> actually, i just tried "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk" and it seems to be working
[09:45] <Lilandra> Hi
[09:45] <ozzloy> even though it looks like the repository is not added
[09:45] <ozzloy> hi Lilandra
[09:45] <Lilandra> how do i find out if my linux comes with a driver?
[09:45] <POVaddct> cafuego, mnepton: anyway, it's good to have a working solution besides ndiswrapper for at least some bcm43xx-types
[09:46] <cafuego> the latest driver in edgy now even reads back link strength status to nm-applet, so there is progress.
[09:46] <deadcoder> damn laptop hibernated
[09:46] <deadcoder> low power
[09:46] <POVaddct> cafuego: personally, i stick to rt2570 and madwifi supported cards
[09:47] <cafuego> That's not an option on iBooks.
[09:47] <cafuego> So I'm quite happy the 4306 works.
[09:47] <Lilandra> what's not an option on iBooks?
[09:47] <POVaddct> cafuego: the rt2570 is (its usb)
[09:47] <Lilandra> i'm lost...I don't know how to make things hibernate (but I haven't searched yet so I will when I'm ready to figure that out)
[09:48] <cafuego> Hmmyeah, easy to break stuff off; not my favourite
[09:48] <POVaddct> Lilandra: the madwifi driver is partly closed source. and that binary part is not compiled for ppc i guess
[09:49] <cafuego> maybe it is, but I'm not much of a fan of working on the move with stuff sticking out of the laptop
[09:49] <Lilandra> oh! wireless
[09:49] <Lilandra> I have my wireless working on my powerbook but I haven't yet figured out the trackpad
[09:49] <POVaddct> Lilandra: yes, we are talking about wireless driver issues. (endless story)
[09:50] <shriphani> i feel if its ppc its gotta be osx for networking
[09:50] <Lilandra> What are the different drivers running around? How is it that some work and some don't?
[09:50] <shriphani> like instant connection to any wireless connection nearby
[09:51] <deadcoder> it seems all this bloody bcm43xx thing seems to have acheived for bcm4318 owners is make life a lot harder.....at the end of the day broadcom is to blame for kissing ms arse
[09:51] <POVaddct> Lilandra: different hardware needs different drivers. or are you talking about different drivers for the same hardware?
[09:51] <mnepton> PCMCIA cards with fully supported chipsets are cheap and plentiful.
[09:52] <Lilandra> Well, are all the airport extreme cards not the same hardware?
[09:52] <Lilandra> or they're different and it's tricky?
[09:52] <deadcoder> well, since my headphone port is dead in my laptop that leaves me choosing between puting a sound card or a network card in my pc card slot
[09:52] <shriphani> umm isnt it like people use firmware off windows to run broadcom cards ?
[09:53] <POVaddct> Lilandra: i think _most_ of the are broadcom chipsets, but i don't know for sure (i am not an apple guy)
[09:53] <shriphani> i saw some post on ubuntu forums
[09:53] <Lilandra> oh ok
[09:54] <shriphani> mnepton, i think you can get firmware off Ex-Pee and use  with ubuntu
[09:54] <deadcoder> yeah i seen tons of posts claming that so and so got their bcm4318 card to work using these directions on both ubuntu 6 and knoppix 5 and even with a fresh install they dont work
[09:54] <deadcoder> could be something to do with bloody rmmod and modprobe -r not removing the frigging bcm43xx module like i asked it to
[09:55] <lansing> ineed help ive lost all my sources
[09:55] <deadcoder> and thats with blacklisting
[09:55] <Lilandra> how do i know what card you have? is bcm43xx not bcm4318?
[09:56] <Lilandra> i thought the x was a place holder :(
[09:57] <POVaddct> Lilandra: lspci
[09:57] <lansing> i need that site again that source o matic
[09:57] <deadcoder> well yeah bcm43xx is bcm4318 but bcm43xx only really works right away with bcm4306
[09:57] <samuel> Hi
[09:57] <deadcoder> from what i have read
[09:57] <Lilandra> oh! i get it. sorry for being slow...i have 4306
[09:57] <samuel> How do you make ubuntu boot so it only boots to the login prompt without starting X server etc.... so then I can manually start X?
[09:58] <deadcoder> i would imagine it would have something to do with getting it to only start up with a runlevel of 2
[09:59] <samuel> How do you make ubuntu boot so it only boots to the login prompt without starting X server etc.... so then I can manually start X?
[10:01] <lansing> hey avagant can u help
[10:01] <lansing> ive lost my source list
[10:01] <lansing> its blank how do i recreate it
[10:01] <chamo> hello
[10:01] <lansing> do i have to reinstall ubuntu
[10:02] <oskude> !easysource > lansing
[10:02] <Asc> Anybody know how to change gnome's default file manager?
[10:02] <lansing> thanx oskude
[10:02] <Jaak_> How do put music on my ipod?
[10:03] <moox> l
[10:03] <Lilandra> got to go...laterz! :)
[10:03] <moox> Jaak_ : do you know "listen" the software ?
[10:04] <lansing> how do i do this
[10:05] <truiu> Jaak_: i have never tested ist, but you might try http://www.gtkpod.org
[10:05] <samuel> How do you add a password to Grub?
[10:05] <shriphani> Jaak_, gtkpod is good
[10:05] <shriphani> lansing, you there ?
[10:05] <BHSPitLappy> Jaak_, have you updated your iPod's firmware in the past month or two?
[10:05] <lansing> ya
[10:05] <BHSPitLappy> (using iTunes 7)
[10:06] <shriphani> ok go to the source-o-matic website
[10:06] <Jaak_> moox, well, i would like to know wich one out of 3 on wiki.ubu is the best Banshe, amarok, gtkpod, and why doesn;t rythmbox have a feature to put music on my pod...
[10:06] <lansing> iam there
[10:06] <shriphani> not are you running breezy dapper or hoary ?
[10:06] <Jaak_> dunno about the firmware...
[10:06] <lansing> not sure
[10:06] <BHSPitLappy> Jaak_, cause rhythmbox sucks?
[10:06] <Jaak_> BHS, wich one is better?
[10:06] <lansing> how do i check
[10:06] <shriphani> lansing, did you order the cds ?
[10:07] <moox> I'm using "listen" for sync my ipod. It is a great software but still in development.
[10:07] <lansing> no i got it from a friend
[10:07] <BHSPitLappy> Jaak_, I like banshee, but I've never used it for my iPod... I actually have to use iTunes 7 just because it's less hassle for videos, etc
[10:07] <Jaak_> listen, oh ok, that's a program, didn't understand at first.
[10:07] <shriphani> lansing, what does the cd cover say ?
[10:07] <kidbuntu> how do i install new skins for xmms through terminal?
[10:07] <lansing> hes got the origanal
[10:07] <shriphani> BHSPitLappy, i use rockbox a firmware you put on the ipod
[10:07] <lansing> i have a copy
[10:08] <kidbuntu> example i like the debian white skin like before
[10:08] <shriphani> lansing, umm your cover
[10:08] <shriphani> what does the cover say
[10:08] <Squatch> So, in Windows, I have 2 drives seen in Raid, but cfdisk and qtpart both see seperately mounted HDDs...  Any suggestions?  (And from that HOWTO that ubotu suggests, I'm stuck there too as my /dev/mapper/ directory has only "control" in it so I'm stuck with that one.)
[10:08] <BHSPitLappy> shriphani, I use rockbox and iPL sometimes.
[10:08] <shriphani> ahh
[10:08] <Asc> How might I tell what program is accessing a device and keeping it from unmounting?  Is there a way to force unmount?
[10:08] <BHSPitLappy> shriphani, but not as my primary interface.
[10:08] <lansing> it dont say ne thin
[10:08] <shriphani> ahh
[10:08] <lansing> i think iam runnin breezy
[10:08] <shriphani> lansing, anything like 6.06
[10:08] <Jaak_> BHS, do you use itunes 7 on windows or through wine?
[10:09] <avagant> Like I said before, has anyone been able to get last.fm to work in alsa?
[10:09] <fick> ...bloody windows just installed 6 secuirty updates ...have to reboot l8r
[10:09] <fick> u
[10:09] <NickaNicka> my ubuntu says "timestamp too far in the future" when trying to install dhcpd
[10:10] <NickaNicka> what does it mean?
[10:10] <Tru7h> I installed Ubuntu on my Laptop... the screen's divided into two and it's all flickery and deformed.
[10:10] <Jaak_> Who says Amarok and who says Banshe? Wich one is better?
[10:10] <Tru7h> I can see my cursor in two locations at once.
[10:10] <NickaNicka> it seems that our clock set to right time
[10:10] <shriphani> lansing, does it say anything like 5.10 or 6.06 on the cd ?
[10:10] <Asc> avagant, try using lastfm proxy, and opening it from a media player that uses ALSA.
[10:10] <lansing> 5.10 i think
[10:10] <lansing> i dont know its a burnt copy
[10:10] <shriphani> umm lansing how did ya install ubuntu ?
[10:10] <avagant> Last.fm freezes up on me whenever I use it.
[10:11] <lansing> by a burnt cd
[10:11] <shriphani> like did you click on "install" or face a text based install
[10:11] <Asc> avagant: Are you using the lastfm client, or the lastfm proxy?
[10:12] <avagant> I'm not using either, but the last time I tried it just froze when I started it.
[10:12] <O2_> I wonder what 3d game I could get freely ?  i mean small 3d game
[10:12] <lansing> all i did was pushed enter and it asked me my orgen and stuff like that
[10:12] <Asc> avagant: Last time you tried to open a lastmf related program and it froze, was the program you tried to open the lastfm client or the lastfm proxy?
[10:12] <Muffy> lansing, it asked for your organs?
[10:12] <shriphani> lansing, ok breezy
[10:12] <POVaddct> O2_: neverball
[10:13] <avagant> last exit actually.
[10:13] <lansing> ya
[10:13] <O2_> POVaddct: THANKS!
[10:14] <O2_> POVaddct:  do I have to install some drivers such as OPENGL to play it ?
[10:14] <shriphani> lansing, in the page select breezy and proceed
[10:15] <tosik> Should I use Ubuntu or Debian?
[10:15] <Popolon> plop
[10:15] <POVaddct> O2_: it does need opengl, so you need hardware 3d-accelerated gfx card
[10:15] <Asc> avagant: I give up.  Try this site.  There should be directions somewhere on it.  http://vidar.gimp.org/lastfmproxy/
[10:15] <kidbuntu> can someone help me please. after installing OpenOffice.org. it wont run
[10:15] <avagant> I think it's an alsa thing, Asc.
[10:15] <lansing> it asks 2 letter code of country then it has check boxes
[10:16] <shriphani> lansing, forget the letter code
[10:16] <shriphani> just check the boxes
[10:16] <avagant> I read somewhere they are having problems with alsa support or something.
[10:16] <POVaddct> O2_: sudo apt-get install neverball
[10:16] <lansing> all of them
[10:16] <avagant> lansing, you still having problems?
[10:16] <lansing> yes
[10:16] <shriphani> umm the ones that say sources and packages
[10:16] <lansing> ive lost my source list
[10:16] <avagant> Huh.
[10:17] <avagant> How'd you lose your source list?
[10:17] <jenda> Hello, can anyone shed some light on this dpkg error? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26272/
[10:17] <lansing> and i dont know how it happend
[10:17] <jenda> The last line is what's important
[10:17] <twisted> Hi there - don't know how to get anything 3D working. Radeon 9800 Pro, Device Manager seems to have detected it ok.
[10:17] <OptimusPrime> ubuntu is debian derived, right?
[10:17] <avagant> Did you mess around with it at all? I'm just asking.
[10:18] <avagant> Anybody know the correct way to burn an iso of ubuntu or that? Is it suppose to be a raw image, or what?
[10:18] <lansing> nope
[10:18] <shriphani> avagant, use an app
[10:18] <admel> Hi how do i format a *corrupted* pendrive ?
[10:18] <shriphani> once it is burnt you should have a few folders like boot etc
[10:18] <oskude> avagant: the download page of ubuntu has info on that
[10:18] <kidbuntu> can someone help me please. after installing OpenOffice.org. it wont run
[10:18] <avagant> No but I mean when I'm burning an image with a cdburner, is it suppose to be raw?
[10:18] <avagant> Cause there's different options for that.
[10:19] <capitalidea> Do 32bit applications require 32bit XOrgs? (I'm on Dapper Drake x86_64)
[10:19] <babwe2> avagant use k3b should be in the repo
[10:19] <avagant> I've been burning them "raw" which apparently causes them to not work well after the first install?
[10:19] <avagant> No no no, I know the cd burners, but when it asks me what form to burn the iso in, do i burn it as raw or tao or whatever?
[10:20] <capitalidea> tao.
[10:20] <tosik> OptimusPrime: Yes it is I just have problems running my wireless card with Ubuntu and was wondering if using Debian would solve my isues
[10:20] <lansing> k wat do i do after i click get sources
[10:20] <avagant> Hmm.
[10:20] <twisted> Any 3D app shows a blank screen, and crashes the comp, requiring a reset
[10:20] <OptimusPrime> cool. why is debian so backward compared to ubuntu, though?
[10:20] <oskude> avagant: afaik, that doesnt consern iso, but the method how to burn... you gotta check what your burner supports...
[10:21] <avagant> The cd's stop working right after the 1st install.
[10:21] <capitalidea> avagant: there is also dao, but you probably don't need to know about that
[10:21] <avagant> I've been burning them under raw.
[10:21] <Nintii|2> I need some help...
[10:21] <oskude> avagant: did you do the "check cd" option on the ubuntu boot cd ? to see that the burned cd is really ok ?
[10:21] <avagant> The cd's work fine.
[10:21] <tosik> OptimusPrime: what do you mean by backwards?
[10:21] <avagant> Until I install more than once.
[10:22] <oskude> avagant: so you did "check cd" ?
[10:22] <avagant> And then it takes like 3 hours to install. Haha
[10:22] <Nintii|2> it seems as though installing Ubuntu has messed up my partition table..
[10:22] <capitalidea> avagant: that's really odd
[10:22] <Nintii|2> and now I can't get back into Windows XP at all
[10:22] <avagant> Maybe it's my disks.
[10:22] <avagant> discs.
[10:22] <keez> anyone can give me an editor or a pico wget ?
[10:22] <Nintii|2> because it is saying I only have 1 partition now
[10:22] <capitalidea> avagant: it doesn't make sense at all, there is a foreign agent at work here...
[10:22] <capitalidea> SEA SERPENTS!
[10:23] <avagant> ??
[10:23] <capitalidea> That's five leeches, call me in the morning.
[10:23] <capitalidea> What brand of CDR/W are you using?
[10:23] <avagant> Hmmm.
[10:23] <voltz> I have 2 ubuntu installs,one shows nautilus icon yet the other install doesnt show it or have it in any menu,I  used file search but dont know what Im looking for...is it .deb ?
[10:23] <avagant> Memorex.
[10:23] <lansing> ??
[10:23] <Nintii|2> would someone who knows a lot about ubuntu and it's messing up of partition tables PM me?
[10:24] <idefix> is there a way to tell if a program/process has stopped responding? it isn't in the top-list, so..
[10:24] <capitalidea> odd indeed, avagant. see if the CDs are readable in windows
[10:24] <OptimusPrime> tosik, not backwards, i meant how they are with not want to jump on upgrades etc
[10:24] <keez> anyone can help me please ? i need a wget pico please
[10:25] <avagant> I'm thinking I might try another distro.
[10:25] <oskude> keez: wget pico ? what do you mean ?
[10:25] <capitalidea> avagant: in the future though, definitely burn using tao
[10:25] <keez> oskude: yes, and editor
[10:25] <Nintii|2> after I installed Ubuntu, I can't access my NTFS partitions to get into windows
[10:25] <keez> oskude: an*
[10:25] <O2_> hello, I wonder if intel release drivers for its video card?
[10:25] <oskude> keez: what ? i dont understand your question, sorry
[10:25] <Squatch> So, I need some help.  I can't get my drives to be detected as raid, they keep on getting detected as two seperate drives, I'm trying to run them in RAID 0, and I'm running through a Sil 1334 SATA controller.
[10:25] <idefix> what's the linux equivalent of the windows ctrl-alt-delete to see what your program is doing?
[10:25] <avagant> Are all the distros having the same problems with sounds?
[10:26] <capitalidea> sound problems?
[10:26] <BHSPitLappy> idefix, System>Administration>System Monitor
[10:26] <keez> oskude: well, here i can modify nothing with pico and i need a wget of pico.
[10:26] <capitalidea> I don't understand what you mean, I haven't had any sound problems.
[10:26] <avagant> Not more than oen thing being able to access the sound card yada yada.
[10:26] <keez> oskude: vi and nano doenst work too
[10:26] <Zoffix> Hi, my X just froze but not completely, I can't switch desktops by clicking on the taskbar, what are the keys to switch desktops with a keyboard? I have update manager running on another desktop, and I don't want to kill X until it finishes, I'm using Xorg/GNOME
[10:26] <keez> oskude: i cant (damn keyboard)
[10:26] <tosik> OptimusPrime: Are you saying Debian is slower to respond to the newer release of software?
[10:26] <capitalidea> avagant: ah, that has everything to do with the sound server you choose.
[10:26] <OptimusPrime> well, isnt it
[10:26] <Asc> idefix: The process monitor?  gnome-system-monitor will work, but I recommend running 'top' in a terminal.
[10:26] <Nintii|2> has anyone else here had any problems with unbuntu messing up their partition tables?
[10:26] <idefix> BHSPitLappy, hmm, I guess my installed ubuntu-version is too old
[10:27] <oskude> keez: aha ... so you want to build pico from source or what ?
[10:27] <keez> oskude: yes
[10:27] <avagant> capitalidea: If I run xmms and firefox with youtube it gets all insano and doesn't let me do much.
[10:27] <tosik> OptimusPrime: I have no idea
[10:27] <avagant> It's been working as of late, but I have no idea why.
[10:27] <oskude> keez: then google for picos website and download it...
[10:27] <lansing> avagant wat do i do about my sources
[10:27] <avagant> I tried the .asoundrc thing and sound didn't work at all so maybe I shouldn't even try and mess with it.
[10:27] <capitalidea> avagant: the most popular one is alsa, and everyone who uses alsa just installs oss compatibility so that oss pipes to alsa too. it also has to do with sharing alsa amongst apps and that's easy too
[10:27] <keez> oskude: i cant find nothing
[10:27] <avagant> Webforum!
[10:28] <avagant> capitalidea: maybe a walk through?
[10:28] <avagant> haha
[10:28] <OptimusPrime> tosik for example, debian gives you xfce 4.0 something via apt-get, whereas the current version of xfce is around 4.4 rc1
[10:28] <mart_> hi, im running xgl. and i used to have a command to run 3d apps without using it
[10:28] <mart_> somthing like nonxgl but i cannot remember what it was
[10:28] <lansing> i need that site that u told me earlyer
[10:28] <oskude> keez: hmm, pico looks like nano http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pico_text_editor so why not use nano ?
[10:29] <mart_> anyone know it?
[10:29] <avagant> lansing: ok hold on.
[10:29] <Zoffix> anybody have an idea? or is it impossible? I know I did it somehow on FC5
[10:29] <lansing> wen u got time
[10:29] <capitalidea> avagant: no idea, but I'm sure it's mentioned on the forum. Dapper Drake is treating me well, I haven't noticed this problem. I use Gentoo on another box though and I remember having to set up my alsa configuration for this. It's trivial to pull off.
[10:29] <keez> oskude: it doenst work either nano or vi
[10:29] <keez> oskude: when i use vi i cannot save the file
[10:29] <oskude> keez: then your system seems very broke
[10:30] <oskude> keez: and what file are you trying to save ?
[10:30] <capitalidea> avagant: search with terms like "alsa sharing"
[10:30] <avagant> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185758
[10:30] <avagant> lansing.
[10:30] <keez> oskude: for what do you want to know ? :P
[10:30] <lansing> k thanx
[10:30] <Nintii|2> ok.. does anyone know... if I convert a ntfs partition to a linux-swap partition with GParted, will I be able to access those files?
[10:30] <capitalidea> Do 32bit applications require 32bit XOrgs? (I'm on Dapper Drake x86_64)
[10:30] <avagant> Gentoo also takes 3 years to install :)
[10:30] <oskude> keez: maybe your user doesnt have rights to edit that file ? (sudo?)
[10:30] <keez> oskude: if you can give me a wget of pico i'll be very greatfull
[10:30] <avagant> I don't know how you sat through that, I didn't even get halfway through.
[10:30] <keez> oskude: i am not on ubuntu
[10:31] <capitalidea> avagant: not an Athlon XP 2000 :-)
[10:31] <tosik> OptimusPrime: Thank you for the information I am still new to Linux and trying to figure out whcih way to go i.e. switch to Debian or continue with Ubuntu
[10:31] <avagant> i guess not yah.
[10:31] <voltz> I found nautilus in /usr/bin with the search file option and can opent he program from there but how do I install it into a menu or to the panel
[10:31] <oskude> keez: well, wikipedia says "Pico is a text editor for Unix computer systems, and is integrated with the Pine email client" so look for pine
[10:31] <avagant> I guess I should be thankful I have sound right now.
[10:31] <keez> oskude: ok
[10:31] <KenSentMe> I'm talking to someone who says the command ifconfig isn't recognized by Ubuntu Breezy. Isn't that a standard command, that's installed by default?
[10:31] <avagant> Gaim does play in the background occasionally while I have music set to alsa and youtube, but sometimes it gives me that error.
[10:32] <mnepton> pico is not included with Ubuntu. it has had a terrible security record and is not free.
[10:32] <oskude> keez: tip, that wikipedia site has link to it...
[10:32] <capitalidea> avagant: If it weren't for some trouble with some libs on Gentoo's AMD64 and the fact that Ubuntu 'just works' I'd probably using Gentoo on this laptop. CBA setting up all the laptop hardware though.
[10:32] <mnepton> nano > pico
[10:32] <oskude> mnepton: he/she isnt even in ubuntu, so...
[10:32] <avagant> I wanna try another distro.
[10:32] <avagant> I've tried kubuntu and xubuntu, and ubuntu.
[10:33] <mnepton> edubuntu!
[10:33] <capitalidea> Fedora has aiglx now, I think
[10:33] <keez> oskude: i cant find anything
[10:33] <avagant> aiglx?
[10:33] <jenda> Hello, can anyone shed some light on this dpkg error? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26272/
[10:33] <jenda> The important part is E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:34] <avagant> Um, reinstall?
[10:34] <avagant> Just kidding that sucks I know.
[10:34] <capitalidea> avagant: en.wikipedia.org/aiglx (i think)
[10:35] <mnepton> jenda: looks like /etc/apt/sources,lst may have some funky entries
[10:36] <mnepton> jenda: it looks like it's trying to access an LVM group fro repo information
[10:36] <jenda> mnepton: ok, thx, will check that.
[10:36] <mnepton> *for
[10:36] <jenda> hmm
[10:36] <capitalidea> HOLY COW, Hans Reiser arrested for murder.
[10:36] <jenda> (it's not my PC, just a Czech guy)
[10:36] <mnepton> capitalidea: really? finally?
[10:36] <jenda> capitalidea: you're kidding, right?
[10:36] <capitalidea> I am definitely not kidding. It's on the front of tuxmachines.org
[10:36] <mnepton> capitalidea: "Resier has 100% atomic commits. You are either arrested, or you are not."
[10:37] <oskude> keez: :/ http://www.washington.edu/pine/
[10:37] <MaKaTiGu1> how do i enable my webcam in ubuntu
[10:37] <mnepton> keez: why do you need pine?
[10:38] <mnepton> (or, why do you *htink* you need pine?)
[10:38] <keez> mnepton: to modify a .conf file ?
[10:38] <mnepton> keez: any text editor can do that. you do not need pine.
[10:38] <mnepton> keez: or pico. or anything else. just use nano or vi.
[10:38] <lansing> would these sources work for breezy
[10:39] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: with luck, just by plug-and-play... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[10:39] <keez> mnepton: -bash: pico: command not found
[10:39] <keez> mnepton: that's why i need a wget of pico
[10:39] <mnepton> keez: once again, most distros *do not ship pico*
[10:39] <mnepton> use. nano.
[10:40] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: hi, how are you, im using ubuntu ryt now, thanks for the help
[10:40] <keez> mnepton: -bash: nano: command not found
[10:40] <keez> :P
[10:40] <keez> mnepton: with vi works but i cant save the file
[10:40] <wickedpuppy> why not?
[10:40] <mart_> hello again, i asked a question about playing opengl apps in XGL they dont seem to work amzingingly well
[10:40] <Muffy> keez, type ":w"
[10:41] <mart_> i found a fix, in case someone gets asked again
[10:41] <cafuego> mart_: Correct
[10:41] <mart_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=176636
[10:41] <keez> Muffy: what ?
[10:41] <oskude> !xgl > mart_
[10:41] <kern_malloc> mart_: yah they won't, XGL pretty much takes over dri and it uses software instead of direct... making opengl slow.  I suggest using AIGLX extensions with beryl + emerald
[10:41] <mnepton> keez: that's not vi. it's permissions. no other editor is going to fix that problem.
[10:41] <Muffy> keez, didn't you say you don't know how to save in vi?
[10:41] <keez> Muffy: yea
[10:41] <capitalidea> kern_malloc: What is beryl?
[10:42] <oskude> !beryl
[10:42] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[10:42] <mart_> kern_malloc i'll look into it... im stil very very new
[10:42] <kern_malloc> capitalidea: a window manager forked from compiz
[10:42] <capitalidea> ah
[10:42] <Muffy> keez, you have to type ":" then "w" then <enter>
[10:42] <capitalidea> !emerald
[10:42] <avagant> What's another good linux distro?
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emerald - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <keez> Muffy: ok, thanks anyway
[10:42] <avagant> !bam
[10:42] <capitalidea> hm
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <kern_malloc> capitalidea: i can run beryl + emerald (the window decorator) without running XGL or AIGLX.. it just uses certain extensions in xorg and i still get direct DRI etc... it's much much faster and smoother
[10:43] <oskude> avagant: just debian ;) (please just google and make your own mind)
[10:43] <Muffy> avagant: fedora?
[10:43] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: i can't mount my 2 partition drive in ubuntu
[10:43] <avagant> Hmm.
[10:43] <hAPPY_mAJA> How do I install a program in *.bin???
[10:43] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: if they are not in /etc/fstab you can only mount them as root (sudo)
[10:43] <capitalidea> kermitX_: I know aiglx takes care of the dri issue, which would mean suspend finally works, right?
[10:44] <hAPPY_mAJA> How do I install a program in *.bin??
[10:44] <MaKaTiGu1> they're in /temp
[10:44] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: whats in /temp (seems you created that dir?)
[10:44] <deep__> =)
[10:45] <MaKaTiGu1> i don't know
[10:45] <MaKaTiGu1> maube
[10:45] <wickedpuppy> hAPPY_mAJA, chmod +x file.bin and ./file.bin
[10:45] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: /temp doesnt belong to "standard" ubuntu
[10:45] <lansing> would dapper sources work for breezy
[10:45] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: so how do i transfer it?
[10:45] <cafuego> lansing: nay
[10:45] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: transfer what to where ?
[10:46] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: the mount drive
[10:46] <lansing> ok iam gunna  reainstall the whole thing then i need help wit installin programs
[10:46] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: ok, first. are the partitions you want to mount listed in /etc/fstab ?
[10:46] <lansing> before i screw some thinup
[10:47] <lansing> so brb
[10:47] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: or ubotu suggests "Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks" but i never used that...
[10:48] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: permission denied while accessing /etc/fstab
[10:48] <wickedpuppy> MaKaTiGu1, what was the command ?
[10:48] <bsdirl> yay!
[10:48] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: yes, that can be only edited with root rights, but you can read it "cat /etc/fstab"
[10:49] <Lilandra> oskude: why would one use cat instead of more or less to read? i'm just curious...i don't know
[10:49] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: can i paste the result here?
[10:50] <oskude> Lilandra: cause that file is so small it will (propably) fit in the terminal window (And you can scroll that too)
[10:50] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: please use pastebin for paste(like http://phpfi.com)
[10:50] <Lilandra> oskude: but any other reason? (i first learnt of more)
[10:50] <wickedpuppy> btw less is more than more ...
[10:50] <Lilandra> wickedpuppy: that i know! :)
[10:51] <oskude> Lilandra: you can easily pipe cat
[10:51] <OptimusPrime> ew
[10:51] <Lilandra> more doesn't pipe?
[10:51] <bsdirl> cat <blah> | more
[10:51] <Lilandra> but why n ot more more <blah> ?
[10:51] <wickedpuppy> cat pipes more than less which pipes less than more ... understand ?
[10:52] <OptimusPrime> you steal souls
[10:52] <OptimusPrime> :(
[10:52] <oskude> Lilandra: well, never done that, i wonder what "less /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver" would do...
[10:52] <O2_> well come wickedpuppy!!!
[10:52] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: its there
[10:52] <wickedpuppy> lol heya O2_ whats with the _ behind your nick ?
[10:52] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: then you post the link here
[10:52] <Lilandra> i thought i piped more
[10:53] <O2_> wickedpuppy:  I don't know, too  : (
[10:53] <MaKaTiGu1> http://phpfi.com/162413
[10:53] <wickedpuppy> O2_, /nick O2
[10:53] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: ok, it seems the partitions you want to mount are not there ?
[10:53] <O2> : )
[10:53] <Lilandra> oskude: find drivers...
[10:53] <Lilandra> or something
[10:54] <O2> wickedpuppy:  well, u r the kindest friend here!
[10:54] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude:  how about the partition
[10:54] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude:  how about the 2 partition
[10:54] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: you could try System -> Administration -> Disks it seems pretty self explaining
[10:54] <wickedpuppy> O2, there are others as well .. just that i am too free LOL
[10:54] <bsdirl> or df -h <partition>
[10:54] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: hda7 is the root "/" and hda8 is the swap
[10:54] <bsdirl> or du
[10:55] <leggy> hi...i have the following question: i can synchronize the profiles in firefox on systems with windows and ubuntu by using a single profile folder in a fat32 partition! Is it also possible using such a method to synchronize the user profiles of the opera browser?
[10:55] <oskude> leggy: wouldnt that be a question to opera people ?
[10:55] <OptimusPrime> leggy thats cool. thanks for the idea
[10:56] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: when i am accessing the other drives, permission denied, why is that?
[10:56] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: what driver ? where and how and with what ?
[10:56] <deep__> MaKaTiGu1, sudo?
[10:56] <O2> wickedpuppy:   :-)     I wonder how to see my laptop's cpu speed, do u know how?
[10:56] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: *drives
[10:56] <wickedpuppy> O2, cat /etc/cpuinfo
[10:56] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-hda1".
[10:57] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: huh, whats that ? what gives that error ?
[10:57] <cafuego> wickedpuppy/O2: /proc/cpuinfi
[10:57] <Lilandra> wickedpuppy i don't have that
[10:57] <cafuego> s/i/o/
[10:57] <leggy> i found a wiki for firefox at ubuntuusers...so i thought that maybe someone has experiences in opera connecting to ubuntu here 8)
[10:57] <wickedpuppy> oh oh
[10:57] <wickedpuppy> pardon my mistake
[10:57] <wickedpuppy> cafuego, thanks ... O2 its cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:57] <wickedpuppy> my apology to Lilandra too ...
[10:58] <Lilandra> np wickedpuppy
[10:58] <MaKaTiGu1> when i click the browse icon in disk manager, hda1 is the windows drive
[10:58] <Lilandra> but cool! i never knew that
[10:58] <cafuego> Lilandra: Lots of fun stuff in /proc
[10:58] <wickedpuppy> hmms ... watching naruto isn't good for helping ... Lilandra try catting /proc/meminfo too ..
[10:58] <Lilandra> i should hang out here and read and learn from everybody's questions. maybe one day i'll know enough to pass it on
[10:58] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: hmm, does your user have sudo rights ? did it ask for a password as you opened Disks Manager ?
[10:58] <wickedpuppy> Lilandra, then there will be new version of ubuntu with new problems
[10:58] <wickedpuppy> :P
[10:59] <Lilandra> well...yeah :)
[10:59] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude; nop
[10:59] <Lilandra> i mean i got to be dynamic
[10:59] <wickedpuppy> Lilandra, yup ...
[10:59] <O2>  Thanks, wickedpuppy & cafuego
[10:59] <Lilandra> i think i want all my laptop issues fixed on dapper first before i go hardcore and edgy cuz i want to know if something's broke
[10:59] <avagant> I don't want edgy because I finally have my sound semi working and I'm scurred.
[10:59] <Lilandra> not just figure i never got it working in the first palce
[10:59] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: hmm, so it seems that user doesnt have sudo rights, do "sudo echo foobar" in terminal. if it doesnt print "foobar", you dont have sudo rights...
[11:00] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: can you login with the user that you created upon installation ?
[11:00] <avagant> Whohooo <---rights
[11:00] <bsdirl> hoary hated my sound on my PII, breezy hated my videocard, and Dapper kinda likes both of em
[11:00] <O2> wickedpuppy:  godness!!! my cpu speed is 598.651MHz!!!    its origin is 1.7GHz!! why???
[11:00] <fuffalo> i've got a geforce 5200 card that has svideo out, the svideo out kicks in when my computer is booting, but right when it gets to the login screen my tv goes black and I can't see anything - what do i have setup wrong
[11:00] <wickedpuppy> eh ah ...
[11:01] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: it prints
[11:01] <bsdirl> except there's some drawing errors sometimes, otherwise I have DRI on my S3 savage card WEEE
[11:01] <Lilandra> mine is 749....i think
[11:01] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: it prints "foobar" ? and asked for password before that ?
[11:01] <avagant> That's what mine did!
[11:01] <wickedpuppy> O2, that i do not know .. mine is 2020 Mhz ... which is correct ...
[11:01] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: yes
[11:01] <avagant> <---feels special.
[11:01] <bsdirl> cpu MHz         : 1111.336
[11:02] <bsdirl>  yay
[11:02] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: hmm, and youre usinf ubuntu dapper ? wihtout any 3rd party repos ?
[11:02] <O2> mine is laptop, pentium m 1.7GHz cpu.
[11:02] <bsdirl> my friend has a Pentium M in his desktop
[11:02] <Lilandra> wait, what's clock?
[11:02] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude ubuntu 6.06
[11:02] <avagant> I learned there are better ways to sudo today.
[11:02] <avagant> sudo -s and sudo su
[11:02] <bsdirl> sudo -i!
[11:02] <O2> wickedpuppy:  it will slow down for saving battry........... how could I control it?
[11:02] <gliezl> anyone using ubuntu livecd?
[11:03] <ra21vi> hi, :) i m ravi
[11:03] <avagant> what is the difference between those anyways?
[11:03] <bsdirl> ubuntu 6.06 doesn't install right on my comp, so I got xubuntu ^_^
[11:03] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: well, i cant help with Disks Manager as i never used it (but seems to work here) so i could only help on adding them to /etc/fstab manually...
[11:03] <wickedpuppy> O2, that will be ... acpi problem i think ... sorry dude .. i havn't used linux on laptop for years ...
[11:03] <ra21vi> i have got some problem regarding XServer after installing ogl and then removing it
[11:03] <avagant> xubuntu doesn't install right on mine, then again none of these seem to be.
[11:03] <ra21vi> i cannt start X now
[11:03] <ra21vi> after reboot *
[11:04] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: so how do i add those drives
[11:04] <OptimusPrime> carefully
[11:04] <wickedpuppy> ra21vi, you meant after installing xgl ? or perhaps i do not know whats ogl ..
[11:04] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: first, which partitions do you want to mount ?
[11:04] <ra21vi> How can i reinstall the XServer
[11:04] <ra21vi> wickedpuppy: yup
[11:04] <avagant> what's the difference between sudo i sudo s and sudo su
[11:04] <ra21vi> wickedpuppy: thats XGL :)
[11:04] <avagant> !sudo
[11:04] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:05] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: partition 5
[11:05] <bsdirl> XGL looks leet but it hates my card lol
[11:05] <wickedpuppy> ra21vi, for that pls ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:05] <ra21vi> same here
[11:05] <ra21vi> ok wickedpuppy
[11:05] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: and on which ide bus and is it master or slave ?
[11:05] <ra21vi> :)
[11:06] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: i dont know the ide bus but the partition 5 drive is in the master HD
[11:07] <O2> oh,  I know now why the 3d game run so slow in my laptop....
[11:07] <avagant> it's what's for dinner.
[11:08] <OptimusPrime> im thinkin arby's
[11:08] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: well, how we are going to know where it is, if you dont know where its plugged ? :/ does the Disk Manager say which one (you think) it is ? /dev/hd?5
[11:08] <avagant> but really what's the difference in sudo -i sudo -s and sudo su?
[11:08] <bsdirl> man sudo :D
[11:08] <ra21vi> whats the name of the xserver package without xgl
[11:08] <avagant> sheeeeeeeeesssh
[11:08] <avagant> ok
[11:08] <ra21vi> i mean default one
[11:09] <ture> ciaoragazzi
[11:09] <ra21vi> hey
[11:09] <ra21vi> :(
[11:09] <ra21vi> no reply
[11:10] <MaKaTiGu1> :(
[11:10] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: are the partitions on the same hd as ubuntu ?
[11:10] <bsdirl> xorg-xserver I think
[11:10] <ra21vi> bsdirl: ok let me try
[11:10] <ra21vi> thanks buddy
[11:11] <bsdirl> hope thats it ^_^
[11:11] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: if they are on the same disk as the ubuntu youre using atm, then it would be /dev/hda5
[11:11] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: yes
[11:12] <bsdirl> well good morning folks, I have to sleep
[11:12] <ra21vi> bsdirl: no buddy, that isnt it.. sudo apt-get install that gives no such package error
[11:12] <bsdirl> *waves*
[11:12] <bsdirl> oh
[11:12] <bsdirl> I'll look right fast ra21vi
[11:12] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: ok, now we want to know where we want to mount it ? normal place would be in /media, like /media/hda5 (but you can mount it where ever you want)
[11:13] <ra21vi> bsdirl: ok
[11:13] <bsdirl> xserver-xorg-core
[11:13] <ra21vi> bsdirl: ok
[11:13] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: i created a directory wilson
[11:13] <ra21vi> :)
[11:13] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: where ? full path
[11:14] <ra21vi> ok
[11:14] <ra21vi> got it
[11:14] <bsdirl> w00t!
[11:14] <ra21vi> still no much better
[11:14] <MaKaTiGu1>  /dude/wilson
[11:14] <bsdirl> awwww
[11:14] <ra21vi> i will have to delve deep into this problem
[11:14] <bsdirl> Im logging, so good luck!
[11:14] <ra21vi> rebooting .................
[11:14] <ra21vi> k] 
[11:14] <ra21vi> eit
[11:15] <ra21vi> ./q
[11:15] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: sure ? is that in your home dir ? or is that really /dude/wilson ? or ~/dude/wilson eg. /home/dude/wilson ?
[11:16] <mAIJK> I use Valknut as an DC client but hubs kick me out becaus Its to old, any idea how to fix or another dc client?
[11:17] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: ok sorry, its /home/dude/wilson
[11:17] <gerhard> morning
[11:17] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: ok, now, what format is the partition ?
[11:18] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: FAT32
[11:18] <gerhard> I have VMware Player and I created a VM with easy vmx. now, I want to install windows with my dvd recorder, but VMware Player does not find the right recorder, I guess it tries to use the cd recorder. how can I now change the vmx file, so that it accesses the dvd recorder?
[11:18] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: ok, sec
[11:20] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: now open the /etc/fstab for editing "sudo /etc/fstab"
[11:21] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: and add this to the end of that file "/dev/hda5  /home/dude/wilson  vfat  rw,user,noauto  0  0" (without the "" of course) (shift+insert is paste)
[11:21] <Fracture> I share a single boot partition between a dapper install and an edgy install.  Whenever one of them upgrades their kernel, update-grub is run, which re-does the menu.lst pointing all kernels to the current root partition.  Is there a way to solve this ?
[11:21] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: ok, tnx
[11:22] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: then ctrl+x to exit (Asks to save) and then you can mount that with "mount ~/wilson"
[11:22] <acersales> hi i was going through linux learning and there is a lot of mention nerk administration, nerk time protocol, nerk concept and application i want to ask what is the meaning of nerk with linux administration ? what do they mean by it ?
[11:22] <surface> Fracture:  is update-grub an ELF? or a script?
[11:22] <MaKaTiGu1> command not found
[11:23] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: and unmount with "umount ~/wilson" (theres allso a panel applet to mount things with a click)
[11:23] <surface> nerk?
[11:23] <Fracture> surface: shell script
[11:23] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: if you say "command not found" please allso paste the command :)
[11:23] <acersales> surface what do they mean by nerk time protocol, nerk concept , nerk administration ?
[11:23] <surface> Fracture:  try to hack it if that is a shell script.
[11:23] <boink> "nerk"
[11:24] <boink> is that nerd? :P
[11:24] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: as i dont know what you typed and got "command not found"
[11:24] <surface> acersales:  neveer heard about it ... "nerd" i know
[11:24] <acersales> ok surface
[11:25] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude:  sudo /etc/fstab
[11:25] <acersales> so what does ntp protocol stand for ?
[11:25] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: oh sorry, my bad should be "sudo nano /etc/fstab"
[11:25] <MaKaTiGu1> :)
[11:26] <Fracture> surface: geesh. I don't think I am THAT good at shell programming
[11:26] <acersales> oh may be they mean short of network :)
[11:26] <pacman> anyone awake over here
[11:26] <acersales> nerk ne(two)rk
[11:26] <Mantits> I'm using a sound card that appears to be unsupported
[11:26] <acersales> quiet silly anyway thanks surface
[11:26] <MaKaTiGu1> k hold on, tnx
[11:26] <Mantits> Is there a fix or do I have to just live w/o sound?
[11:27] <Mantits> lspci: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[11:27] <pacman> I'm having a problem getting the right proprietary drivers for my ATI card
[11:29] <frtdx> hello
[11:30] <[Nige] > hi all
[11:30] <[Nige] > anyone played with freevo?
[11:31] <Ramunas> hello everybody :)
[11:31] <mnepton> Ramunas!
[11:31] <mnepton> holy crap! ltns!
[11:31] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: mount ~/wilson ----- > mount point /home/dude/wilson does not exist
[11:32] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: and, does it exist ?
[11:32] <Mantits> hmmm
[11:32] <Mantits> Imma format my linux partition and install fedora core 5 instead
[11:32] <Mantits> k bye
[11:32] <MaKaTiGu1> Oskude: yes, /home/dude/wilson
[11:33] <Ramunas> mnepton: I thought I saw your nick somewhere
[11:33] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: so your user name is "dude" ?
[11:33] <MaKaTiGu1> odkude: yes
[11:34] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: hmm, could you pastenbin your /etc/fstab again
[11:34] <MaKaTiGu1> ok
[11:37] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: brb
[11:42] <avagant> hmmmm sudo doesn't ask me for my password anymore.
[11:42] <avagant> how do i logout enough so that it asks for it again?
[11:42] <avagant> it just goes straight to root.
[11:42] <shriphani> avagant, just wait for a while
[11:42] <oskude> avagant: reopen terminal (it save the password for that session for 5mins or so)
[11:43] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: thanks you....
[11:43] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: thank you....
[11:43] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: finally
[11:43] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: working ?
[11:43] <MaKaTiGu1> wohh
[11:43] <MaKaTiGu1> yes
[11:44] <avagant> I got kinda nervous for a minute.
[11:44] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude i miss my files...heheheh
[11:44] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: and can you allso read and write that as normal user ? (im fearing)
[11:44] <MaKaTiGu1> k, ill try
[11:45] <MaKaTiGu1> it's working...,heheheh
[11:45] <MaKaTiGu1> thanks a lot oskude.....
[11:46] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: youre welcome (but i still wonder that it works:)
[11:46] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: can i do that in the remaing drives?
[11:47] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: yup, just change the dev, mount point and filesystem
[11:48] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: if one is a ntfs, it seems you need to use "user,noauto,umask=007,gid=46" to be able to read it (i dont suggest to write on ntfs)
[11:48] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: dev/hda5  /home/dude/wilson  vfat  rw,user,noauto  0  0 ---> i'll just change the mounting point
[11:48] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: same syntax?
[11:49] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: you need to change the /dev/hda5 too
[11:49] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: for vfat (fat32) it seems you can use those mount options
[11:50] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: the 2 drives are in ntfs
[11:51] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: then change the /dev/hda5 to the right partition number, change the mount point (remember to make that dir first) and for ntfs use options "user,noauto,umask=007,gid=46" instead
[11:54] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: fyi: "Disks Manager" used these options for my ntfs partition "defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46"
[11:54] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: i more thing, webcam, how do i enable it
[11:55] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: depends, have you looked if your webcam is listed here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[11:55] <dimbon> test and hallo
[11:55] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: and here should be some help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam (but i never used a webcam)
[11:56] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: but in best case it should be just plug-and-play...
[11:57] <alfred> bonjour je suis nouveau sur ubuntu..
[11:58] <oskude> !fr
[11:58] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:58] <lansing> hey ppl iam back
[11:58] <alfred> je voudrais savoir comment monter fdo merci
[11:58] <dimbon> bonjour
[11:59] <lansing> hey avagant u still here??
[11:59] <MaKaTiGu1> oskude: ok, thanks a lot...
[11:59] <oskude> MaKaTiGu1: np
[11:59] <alfred> bonjour,comment monter fdo pour des sauvegardes. merci
[12:00] <bun-bun> !fr > alfred
[12:03] <lansing> can some one help me install java??
[12:04] <oskude> !java > lansing
[12:04] <illvarg> hi! is 6.10 going to be released at the end of the month?
[12:04] <oskude> !schedule > illvarg
[12:04] <blackpaw> hello, fine people.
[12:04] <lansing> thanx again oskude
[12:05] <cntb> !fixboot
[12:05] <illvarg> !schedule
[12:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixboot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[12:05] <oskude> !grub > cntb
[12:05] <ch4n5> HAL deamon can't be initialized. How to fix this error?
[12:05] <cntb> ty
[12:05] <bun-bun> !easyubuntu
[12:05] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[12:06] <lansing> ive got breezy will that java work
[12:06] <illvarg> oskude: tnx
[12:06] <lansing> will java 5 work on breezy
[12:07] <oskude> lansing: propably, but the helps on ubotu are mostly for the actual version of ubuntu...
[12:07] <kemik> lansing: yeah it works with breezy
[12:10] <mart1> hi there ... how do I customize my keyboard layouts in fluxbox?
[12:10] <mart1> this doesn't work:
[12:10] <mart1>   setxkbmap -layout "us,es" -option "grp:alt_shift_toggle"
[12:10] <ch4n5>  HAL deamon can't be initialized. How to fix this error?
[12:11] <mart1> (it worked on a centos distro)
[12:11] <oskude> !work
[12:11] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[12:11] <frtdx> lol
[12:11] <scanwinder> can someone reccomend some linux-complatible portable media players - like ipod but more linux friendly
[12:12] <oskude> scanwinder: i would say, any device that can be mounted as disk... (and plays ogg)
[12:12] <frtdx> scanwinder: u can always use RockBox on any media player in the market right now
[12:12] <frtdx> www.RockBox.org
[12:12] <bun-bun> scanwinder# i'm pretty happy with my iriver
[12:12] <dennda> is there any tool to recover deleted files which where stored on a logical ext3 partition?
[12:12] <scanwinder> bun-bun, which iriver? im interested in iriver clix
[12:13] <bun-bun> scanwinder# i have an older one, the model # escapes me right now
[12:13] <bun-bun> scanwinder# i think it was one of their first hard disk based models
[12:13] <oskude> dennda: do "apt-cache search undelete" you get couple tools, but i never used them
[12:13] <dennda> thanks. i will try
[12:14] <dennda> these tools are only for the use with ntfs / ext2 :(
[12:14] <ch4n5> oskude: HAL deamon can't be initialized. How to fix this error?
[12:14] <oskude> dennda: yeah, saw that now too (but normally ext2 tools work with ext3)
[12:15] <oskude> ch4n5: sorry, no idea
[12:15] <bun-bun> scanwinder# it's an H340
[12:15] <dennda> i will give it a try
[12:15] <oskude> dennda: please dont, they explicit say doesnt work with ext3!
[12:15] <dennda> hm :(
[12:16] <oskude> dennda: try asking again (with interval) or try google/ubuntuforums.org
[12:16] <dennda> i will do so. thank you, oskude
[12:16] <lansing> will java 5 work for breezy
[12:17] <oskude> dennda: hups ? look for "undelete" here :/ http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/FAQs/ext3-faq.html
[12:17] <dennda> i am recently trying apt-cache search ext3
[12:17] <dennda> *recently = now
[12:18] <lansing> hey oskude i hav a ?
[12:18] <lansing> will java 5 work for ubuntu breezy
[12:18] <oskude> lansing: didnt someone allready answer to that ?
[12:18] <lansing> not that i seen
[12:19] <oskude> lansing: hmm "<kemik> lansing: yeah it works with breezy"
[12:19] <lansing> ok thanx so much
[12:20] <mart1> anybody knowing how to customize keyboard layouts in fluxbox?
[12:20] <lansing> for ur help i do apreshiate this alot since iam new n all
[12:20] <oskude> lansing: you know that the strong point of java is that it runs on "any" os ? ;)
[12:20] <lansing> o ok kool
[12:20] <oskude> lansing: well, i cant help on java, i never use it...
[12:21] <lansing> o k
[12:21] <LSD`> 'write once, run anywhere' never really happened with java, lol
[12:21] <znull> heya ubuntu runs under a old p1 mmx 266 32/RAM 2 MB video ati rage laptop
[12:21] <lansing> but u can help wit others right
[12:21] <LSD`> znull: you'd have to have killed the GUI with that little RAM
[12:21] <bun-bun> lansing# check out easyubuntu if you're just looking to get java up and running.
[12:21] <hockyhair> hello
[12:22] <hockyhair> how can i change the default startdir for terminals
[12:22] <hockyhair> say eterm or aterm
[12:22] <screechingcat> oskude : it is
[12:22] <hockyhair> i looked at man coulnd see anything
[12:23] <fred_> How can I know all the versions available for a package (in my case, mozilla-firefox) ?
[12:23] <screechingcat> oskude : its sudo apt-get install sun-java 5
[12:23] <screechingcat> oskude, or something like that
[12:23] <oskude> hockyhair: one way could be adding "cd /where/you/want/to/go" to the end of ~/.bashrc
[12:24] <hockyhair> oskude: ty!
[12:24] <screechingcat> anyone here playing warzone2100 ?
[12:24] <hockyhair> thank you ;)
[12:25] <hockyhair> oskude: do you use gnome or better yet beryl by chance?
[12:25] <oskude> fred_: normally theres only one version in "standard" ubuntu repos
[12:25] <oskude> !xgl > hockyhair
[12:25] <screechingcat> i cant get it to install
[12:25] <lansing> wat do i try to find it and install it
[12:25] <hockyhair> i have it up
[12:25] <hockyhair> i just am having issues with pypanel
[12:25] <fred_> oskude, So it's not possible to do something like this : aptitude install mozilla-firefox=1.0.8 ?
[12:25] <oskude> fred_: hmm, dunno, sorry, never done that
[12:26] <hockyhair> first it was loading before beryl and not covering all desktops, now it loads after (i changed settings in sessions) but after beryl loads it doesnt load at all
[12:26] <hockyhair> it's set for 60 and beryl is set for 20
[12:26] <dennda> oskude, i just found a statement about one of ext3s qualitys that do not allow file recovery
[12:26] <oskude> hockyhair: beryl support is at #ubuntu-xgl (as ubotu told you)
[12:27] <oskude> dennda: yup, i gave you a link and a tip...
[12:27] <dennda> unfortunately this won't work. thank you anyway, oskude
[12:27] <hockyhair> thanks oskude
[12:27] <sykes^> Anyone here use the G15 keyboard ang G5 mouse in Ubuntu? (logitech)
[12:27] <LaRevolucion> hi all
[12:27] <LaRevolucion> :)
[12:27] <sykes^> Hi
[12:28] <fred_> oskude, The problem is, after updating firefox, aptitude remove mozilla-firefox-locale-ja.  Apparently, there is a conflict and both packages cannot co-exist with the latest versions.  I would like to undo the upgrade.  Isn't it possible somehow?
[12:28] <sykes^> !g5
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about g5 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <sykes^> !g15
[12:28] <LaRevolucion> I've installed ubuntu-server.. now I want to install X. How can I do ?
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about g15 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <wrabbit^> !whatsayyou
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about whatsayyou - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <LSD`> !42
[12:28] <sykes^> !logitech
[12:28] <oskude> fred_: im just reading "man apt-get" and it says " A specific version of a package can be selected for installation by  following the package name with an equals and the version of  the package to select."
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 42 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <LSD`> ...
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about logitech - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <sykes^> Gah
[12:28] <wrabbit^> LSD! zomg, you've found a bug
[12:28] <sykes^> Anyone use G15 and/or G5 here?
[12:29] <screechingcat> fred_, try thru synaptic
[12:29] <LaRevolucion> !X
[12:29] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:29] <wrabbit^> As if ubotu doesn't know 42
[12:29] <oskude> fred_: and that means the package version, not the "program" version" (afaik)
[12:29] <LSD`> how can it *not* know that 42 is the answer to life, the universe and everything? Even google calculator knows that! :P
[12:29] <wrabbit^> lol
[12:29] <wrabbit^> it does?
[12:29] <LaRevolucion> !install X
[12:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install X - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:29] <sykes^> LSD`, Is 42 the calculation of life?
[12:30] <LSD`> wrabbit^: type "the answer to life, the universe and everything' into google and the first result should be google calculator telling you it equals 42
[12:30] <wrabbit^> 42 is the meaning of life, the universe and everything sykes^
[12:30] <fred_> Looking at aptitude's log file, I see this : [UPGRADE]  firefox 1.0.8-0ubuntu5.10.1 -> 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.7-0ubuntu5.10.3
[12:30] <lansing> can some one help me install java i got it now i tryin to use the terminal to install it fully
[12:30] <sykes^> wrabbit^, I dont get it... What does 42 have to do with everything?
[12:30] <LSD`> sykes^: Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy?
[12:30] <wrabbit^> LSD`: that is freakin' awesome :)
[12:30] <sykes^> LSD`, lol ok
[12:30] <wrabbit^> sykes^: Never read Douglas Adams?
[12:31] <LSD`> sykes^: you've never heard of hitchhikers guide to the galaxy?!?
[12:31] <oskude> !ontopic
[12:31] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:31] <sykes^> Never heard of him, but I've heard of the filk HGTTG
[12:31] <sykes^> film
[12:31] <fred_> However if I do aptitude install mozilla-firefox=1.0.8-0ubuntu5.10.1 it says the version cannot be found.
[12:32] <sykes^> Does anyone use the G15 keyboard and/or the G5 mouse here? (logitech) Need some help finding drivers for them (g5 is most important)
[12:32] <sykes^> -anyone
[12:32] <sykes^> Or no, +anyone
[12:33] <oskude> sykes^: well, ive used ps/2 and usb mouses/keyboards and they work out-of-the-box... are those some weird hardware ?
[12:34] <sykes^> G5 is a gaming mouse so you can set the sensitivity directly on the mouse (if you want to sniper or something its betetr with low sense in-game), and g15 got a LCD display
[12:34] <sykes^> Supid info: The keyboard cost me $80 and the mouse $68 :P
[12:34] <sykes^> stupidDDD*
[12:34] <Kryczek> Hello! I just installed Ubuntu and everything I think I'll need for a "normal user" usage ;) except that Firefox cannot play videos on the CNN website.... any idea what package I have to install to enable Firefox to play embedded (Windows Media I suppose) videos?
[12:34] <oskude> sykes^: well, does the manufacturer have linux drivers ?
[12:34] <sykes^> Nope
[12:35] <wickedpuppy> sykes^, for exotic hardware , hope the manufacturer has the drivers or one of those who own it is also a ilnux hacker ...
[12:36] <sykes^> wickedpuppy, Ok, I'll try to become a linux hacker then :P
[12:36] <oskude> sykes^: then i would suggest to google (or wait for someone here to have the same hardware working)
[12:36] <sykes^> Or I'm going to buy a new keyboard this month anyways, this k-board sucks balls
[12:36] <oskude> sykes^: 1st hit :/ http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/06/20/logitech-g5-review-under-linux/
[12:36] <sykes^> oskude, checking
[12:37] <capitalidea> I just installed swiftfox using the AMD64 deb provided on its homepage, but when I try to run swiftfox what actually happens is that firefox is started. :-(
[12:37] <oskude> capitalidea: whats swiftfox ?
[12:37] <sykes^> oskude, Thought that only was a reviw
[12:37] <capitalidea> it's a leaner version of firefox
[12:38] <oskude> sykes^: did you scroll to the xorg.conf file ? :/
[12:38] <oskude> capitalidea: and did they have ubuntu dapper packages ?
[12:38] <sykes^> oskude, No I'm still 97% noob on linux, but gonna check it now
[12:38] <j2dope> hi. can I connect to WPA enabled wireless networks on ubuntu?
[12:38] <mnepton> Kryczek: sudo apt-get install mplayer-mozilla
[12:39] <capitalidea> oskude: I don't believe so.
[12:39] <mnepton> Kryczek: and even then, the latest MS codecs are a problem because MS consider their AV codecs a DANGEROUS SECRET THAT MUST BE PROTECTED!
[12:39] <mnepton> *sigh*
[12:39] <oskude> capitalidea: well ...
[12:39] <lansing> help plz iam tryin to install java but it says couldnt find package
[12:40] <kemik> oskude: since "sun-java" isnt free, it's not supported in the official ubuntu repos...
[12:40] <kemik> (unless that's changed in dapper && edgy.. i dunno about that)
[12:40] <kemik> lansing: follow the wikipages
[12:40] <capitalidea> oskude: well...?
[12:40] <lansing> witch is
[12:40] <oskude> capitalidea: if they dont have ubuntu dapper packages, youre only hope is to compile it yourself...
[12:40] <capitalidea> which is*
[12:41] <sykes^> oskude, I have to reload X after I change the xorg.conf, right?
[12:41] <capitalidea> oskude: Why is that? What is wrong with the deb?
[12:41] <kemik> lansing: use google. im not gonna do it for you
[12:41] <oskude> sykes^: yup
[12:41] <sykes^> oskude, Ok, brb
[12:41] <j2dope> anyone? do I need anything special to connect to WPA wireless networks on ubuntu?
[12:41] <oskude> capitalidea: it has to be for ubuntu dapper !
[12:41] <lansing> k
[12:41] <shylaa> hello can any one help me if I upgrade to LTS from 5.04 do i keep same settings like dual monitor
[12:41] <kemik> j2dope: thought that was impossible in linux
[12:41] <j2dope> really?
[12:41] <mnepton> j2dope: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[12:41] <yango> why are some flash movies displayed wrongly with the flash plugin for firefox?
[12:41] <kemik> j2dope: WPA i mean
[12:41] <yango> especially regarding fonts
[12:41] <oskude> shylaa: in theory yes...
[12:41] <mnepton> kemik: it's 100% possible
[12:41] <capitalidea> oskude: Why? I'm fishing for the technical details here...
[12:42] <kemik> mnepton: ah cool.. WPA2 also ?
[12:42] <Kryczek> mnepton: thanks, I'll install mozilla-mplayer :) Which actually brings me to one last question, if you don't mind... Why is it for example that mozilla-mplayer appears in the list of packages of Synaptic, but not in the "Add/Remove Software" interface?
[12:42] <sykes> Ok lets see if it works
[12:42] <mnepton> kemik: you betchya
[12:42] <shylaa> oskude thankyou
[12:42] <oskude> capitalidea: can you install windows xp programs on windows 3.1 ?
[12:42] <kemik> j2dope: dont listen to me then, listen to mnepton
[12:42] <kemik> :D
[12:42] <j2dope> heheh all good kemik
[12:42] <capitalidea> oskude: Is Ubuntu no longer based on Debian?
[12:42] <j2dope> thanks mnepton, installing now
[12:42] <oskude> capitalidea: ubuntu dapper != ubuntu breezy != debian what ever
[12:43] <oskude> capitalidea: yeah its BASED on debian, but its NOT debian
[12:43] <j2dope> ok, gonna try it now, brb in 2 mins if mnepton is right ;)
[12:43] <capitalidea> But it is linux and the path to swiftfox did not magically get turned into the path to firefox by the Mozilla Foundation Fairy.
[12:43] <oskude> !debian > capitalidea
[12:43] <shriphani> !debian
[12:43] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded". To see more details on the relationship, see: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[12:43] <mnepton> and if any of you tell my girlfriend i said that, i'm coming to live with *you* when she laughs me out of the house.
[12:43] <oskude> capitalidea: linux is just the kernel
[12:44] <capitalidea> this is becoming very exasperating very quickly.
[12:44] <shriphani> capitalidea, distros adhere to the linux standard base
[12:44] <shriphani> always
[12:45] <capitalidea> linux standard base? do mean the kernel or something external to that?
[12:45] <oskude> capitalidea: well, you just have to accept that ubuntu != debian, when it comes to install debian debs...
[12:45] <Nem1> Does anybody knows how to install Limewire on linux edubuntu?
[12:45] <kemik> shriphani: do they ? you're referring to ubuntu strictly now right ?
[12:45] <shriphani> kemik, all distros
[12:46] <capitalidea> I remain uncovinced.
[12:46] <Kryczek> Nem1: I think GtkGnutella uses the same network than Limewire
[12:46] <sykes> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26282/
[12:46] <sykes> How fix that? Cant find any x64 edition
[12:46] <mnepton> Nem1: gtk-gnutella is your path of least resistance
[12:46] <shriphani> ts you to know: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control,
[12:46] <Nem1> kryczek, what is this?
[12:46] <shriphani> http://www.freestandards.org/en/LSB
[12:46] <Nem1> GtkGnutella???
[12:46] <Kryczek> Nem1: another program, just not called "Limewire" but it should be compatible as far as I know :)
[12:47] <Aaron1> im setting up ubuntu now and setting up the partitions with one NFTS, one FAT32, and one Extended partition that has EXT3, EXT3 Home and a Swap
[12:47] <Aaron1> is it ok to have the Swap partition within an extended partition
[12:47] <Nem1> where can i find it??
[12:47] <mnepton> sykes: you don;t fix it. there is no Flash for x86-64. chroot a 32 bit Fx or run the i386 version.
[12:47] <shriphani> and capitalidea what is your objective ?
[12:47] <Aaron1> does it make any difference if you use extended partitions
[12:47] <Kryczek> mnepton: sorry to bother you, but apparently you missed my question ;p
[12:47] <Kryczek> mnepton: thanks, I'll install mozilla-mplayer :) Which actually brings me to one last question, if you don't mind... Why is it for example that mozilla-mplayer appears in the list of packages of Synaptic, but not in the "Add/Remove Software" interface?
[12:47] <sykes> So I have to wait for them to make a version for x64?
[12:47] <sykes> x86-64*
[12:48] <oskude> Aaron1: yes, linux doesnt care where your partitions are
[12:48] <Aaron1> k, thanks
[12:48] <Nem1> kryczek,where can i find GtkGnutella????
[12:48] <shriphani> Nem1, the repos
[12:48] <totall_6_7> oskude: unless the partition happens to be ntfs ;)
[12:48] <Nem1> what is the repos
[12:48] <mnepton> Kryczek: the Add/Remove does not reflect all entries in all repos.
[12:48] <shriphani> Nem1, the repositories
[12:49] <shriphani> !repos
[12:49] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:49] <oskude> Kryczek: i think "Add/Remove Software" has only software that is officially supported by ubuntu
[12:49] <Kryczek> mnepton: yeah, I got that :) just wondering what entries it is reflecting then
[12:49] <Kryczek> ah ok
[12:49] <Aaron1> ive got the FAT32 so it can be a shared partition
[12:49] <Kryczek> oskude: the ones that have a small Ubuntu icon next to them in Synaptic ?
[12:49] <Nem1> spriphani, where are they?
[12:49] <shriphani> Nem1, why do you need them ?
[12:49] <Nem1> repos
[12:49] <oskude> Aaron1: yes, thats the most common way to share files with windows (but theres allso a ext2/3 driver for windows)
[12:50] <oskude> Kryczek: yeah, that could be it
[12:50] <shriphani> Nem1, sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[12:50] <Nem1> thx
[12:50] <oskude> !ext3 > Aaron1
[12:52] <Aaron1> thanks oskude
[12:52] <Kryczek> lol, I just installed mozilla-mplayer as mnepton suggested, and it plays videos on cnn.com very well, except...
[12:52] <usuario> SUARIO
[12:52] <Kryczek> whenever a window covers all or part of the video
[12:52] <Kryczek> then this area remains gray
[12:52] <usuario> HELLO
[12:52] <mnepton> Kryczek: so then Don't Do That(tm) ;)
[12:52] <Kryczek> and if I switch to another virtual desktop and come back
[12:53] <usuario> HOLA
[12:53] <Kryczek> it's like if I covered it completely
[12:53] <Kryczek> so it's all gray
[12:53] <Kryczek> and I don't see the video anymore :/
[12:53] <Kryczek> mnepton: any idea? :)
[12:53] <capitalidea> oskude: Apparently, if firefox is already open, swiftfox just opens another window of firefox... - on the flip side of that, the swiftfox deb works flawlessly
[12:53] <mnepton> Kryczek: blame MS for not releasing the source to their codecs so that media players can actually wortk well with them
[12:53] <Kryczek> mnepton: well I don't think it has anything to do with the codecs
[12:54] <shriphani> capitalidea, this deb was not gotten from the deb repos ?
[12:54] <Kryczek> that works in Kubuntu with the kmplayer :/
[12:54] <capitalidea> I have a suspicion that this is because Firefox looks for open copies of itself to reduce memory usage
[12:54] <mnepton> Kryczek: it has to to with MPlayer's use of the framebuffer while using that codec, though
[12:54] <capitalidea> shriphani: I thought I said that I got it off the swiftfox home page, yes, it was not from the repos.
[12:54] <mnepton> j2dope: wb
[12:54] <omar>  hello guys, I am trying to munt a folder from a windows machine with this command : sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.20/Nuevas ~/Lap -o urd=omar , but I get and error : mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //192.168.1.20/Nuevas, whats wrong with it
[12:54] <shriphani> capitalidea, then it should work on ubuntu
[12:54] <j2dope> WPA works with network-manager-gnome, thanks mnepton :)
[12:54] <capitalidea> shriphani: It is :-)
[12:55] <mnepton> j2dope: np. glad you have it working.
[12:55] <j2dope> now im completely wireless, bar the power cable and all this USB shite ;)
[12:55] <sykes> Can anyone name a good e-mail client for ubuntu? (which I can choose from add/remove programs) (except thunderbirg) please
[12:55] <j2dope> evolution?
[12:55] <shriphani> then what were you not convinced with earlier ?
[12:55] <Kryczek> mnepton: ok, if you say so... thanks for the help already :)
[12:55] <sykes> Tried it, but I need to change POP and SMTP port, cant find out how to do it though
[12:56] <sykes> Using gmail..
[12:56] <mnepton> Kryczek: i live to serve the Ubuntu community :)
[12:56] <sykes> Oh yeah, anyone want a gmail invitation btw? I got 45 left
[12:56] <mnepton> (oh, and to watch Oprah. she's dreeeeeeamy.)
[12:56] <capitalidea> shriphani: oskude submits that .debs are not for ubuntu and are magically not compatible, at all. that was the point I was doubting. (I could see why this isn't true all the time though)
[12:56] <LSD`> j2dope: power would be wireless too if the nikola tesla had had his way. Unfortunately sending power wirelssy begged the question of where would the metre (and thus the way to charge for it) would go and go got shot down
[12:57] <shriphani> capitalidea, if these debs come from the debian servers no they are not
[12:57] <UB_> omar may be you mean UID and not URD
[12:57] <j2dope> anyone know why my /etc/resolv.conf keeps 'reseting' itself? usually after every reboot...
[12:57] <shriphani> not many debs that are offered work too
[12:57] <normeo> Ekushey: was just wondering if someone could help me with a problem booting the installcd
[12:57] <mnepton> j2dope: by design
[12:57] <normeo> damn nick complete!!
[12:57] <mnepton> j2dope: your DHCP server is assigning DNS servers
[12:57] <normeo> *hey*
[12:58] <sykes^> How do I change ports for POP & SMTP in Evolution?
[12:58] <lansing> hey avagant i reinstalled my op and i need a lil help on wat to typ  in the terminal to install java
[12:58] <capitalidea> What is happening ( I think ) is that swiftfox looks just like a running firefox so when either of them start up they both look for a running instance of firefox and then tell that instance to open a new window.
[12:58] <j2dope> yeah.. for some reason DHCP works fiiiine on windows.. on linux, it wont work unless I manually type in my DNS server...
[12:58] <omar> UB_ same thing
[12:58] <lansing> i dont under stand the forums
[12:58] <j2dope> mnepton: so what u mean 'by design'?
[12:59] <shriphani> j2dope, maybe you havent told the box that its dhcp
[12:59] <UB_> omar do you wanna mount it via samba?
[12:59] <shriphani> yawn
[12:59] <shriphani> oops
[12:59] <j2dope> shriphani: the networking tool (under administration) *is* set to DHCP. but as said, it won't get me online unless i manually set the DNS server
[12:59] <j2dope> under windows DHCP works fine
[12:59] <UB_> so use -t smbfs but before check you have installed the package smbfs
[01:00] <oskude> capitalidea: then things is, debian (may) have different versions of librarys on what a program depends.
[01:00] <normeo> when i try to boot the install cd i get a problem it hangs on "loading kernel"
[01:00] <normeo> does anyone know of any problems that cause this?
[01:01] <oskude> capitalidea: thats the same case why you (mostly) cant even install dapper debs on breezy
[01:01] <yapi_> hi
[01:02] <yapi_> i had to run fsck manualy, after that, i managed to bootup linux kernel, until it says: waiting for the root... ... and drops me into initramfs busybox, saying something cannot find /dev/hda1?! that's / btw. i've tried ubuntu live, and it has all devices in /dev but they r wiped out on boot... what can i do?
[01:02] <oskude> capitalidea: and lets say a program depends on package foo12 on debian, but on ubuntu its called foo12-ubuntu1, how is that gonna work ?
[01:05] <normeo> any help?
[01:05] <lansing> i need help
[01:05] <oskude> normeo: did you check the md5sum of the downloaded image (if you downloaded it) ? did you use the "check cd" option on the cd at boot ?
[01:06] <normeo> the cd check option doesn't work either, still brings up the same message for loading kernel and hangs
[01:06] <oskude> normeo: if the check cd doesnt say ok, please check the md5sum of the image you downloaded
[01:07] <lansing> is there anyone out there that is kind enough to help out some one that dont know a dam thing about ubuntu
[01:07] <capitalidea> oskude:ofcourse that wouldn't work. this binary works dandy though. (yeah, it's a special case)
[01:07] <oskude> !ask > lansing
[01:07] <oskude> capitalidea: and you have to update that package manually...
[01:08] <lansing> i have several time and no one will
[01:08] <oskude> lansing: then wait a while and ask again...
[01:08] <lansing> k
[01:09] <oskude> !rules
[01:09] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:09] <oskude> tip: when noone is saysing anything, that could be a good time to repeat your question ;)
[01:09] <lansing> ok
[01:10] <cpk2> i was about to tell lansing that unfortunately i cant read minds =P
[01:10] <lansing> i have java on my computer but i dont know how to install it from the terminal
[01:10] <oskude> !away > Powerbook`Away
[01:10] <cpk2> lansing: you can install java from the repos
[01:11] <cpk2> lansing: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[01:11] <cpk2> i believe is the package name
[01:11] <lansing> if tryed that it says it cat find it
[01:11] <omar> thanks UB_
[01:11] <cpk2> !info sun-java5-bin
[01:11] <ubotu> sun-java5-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 21625 kB, installed size 65608 kB
[01:11] <boink> apt-cache search java first
[01:12] <shriphani> lansing, ya dun have multiverse enabled
[01:12] <cpk2> lansing: is multiverse enabled?
[01:12] <boink> if you're installing java yourself, then just follow the documentation from Sun
[01:12] <lansing> how do i enable it
[01:12] <capitalidea> cpk2: he probably doesn't have more than the default repos
[01:12] <capitalidea> aha!
[01:13] <boink> did you get the file from Sun yourself?
[01:13] <oskude> !repos > lansing
[01:13] <lansing> i just reinstalled ubuntu breezy so its all default
[01:13] <boink> breezy? that's quite old
[01:13] <oskude> lansing: btw, is there a reason that you still use breezy ?
[01:13] <boink> you should first do an update to dapper
[01:13] <cpk2> lansing: well that depends on what makes you happy, you can do it via the gui in synaptics ( i have no clue how to use synaptics =P) or edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:14] <dakkar> I have to install Ubuntu on a Intel multi-Xeon server, that uses EFI, and has no CD drive. I can use a USB stick, but I have very little idea about hov to do it (elilo? how?)
[01:14] <lansing> ok wat do  i edit on sources.list
[01:14] <fyrestrtr> dakkar: your server has electronic fuel injection?
[01:15] <boink> change everything from breezy to dapper
[01:15] <dakkar> fyrestrtr: might be easier if it had ;-) EFI is the news BIOS
[01:15] <boink> you have good bandwidth? the upgrade will download a lot of stuff
[01:15] <capitalidea> dakkar: is it a Macintel?
[01:15] <lansing> ok but will dapper work for this version
[01:16] <boink> for what version?
[01:16] <dakkar> capitalidea: no, an Intel multi-Xeon server
[01:16] <lansing> breezy
[01:16] <binfalse> not sure
[01:16] <capitalidea> dakkar: wow, I had no idea Intel was using EFI yet
[01:16] <boink> breezy is an old version of ubuntu
[01:16] <boink> It was the second release, if I'm not mistakes
[01:16] <frtdx> hey guys .. pppoe help
[01:16] <boink> dapper is the current stable release
[01:16] <fyrestrtr> dakkar: so what's the problem?
[01:17] <frtdx> i use raspppoe in windows ... will the command "sudo pppoeconf" let me setup ppp through a NIC?
[01:17] <lansing> ok so wat should i do then ?
[01:17] <frtdx> as opposed to a modem?
[01:17] <fyrestrtr> !source-o-matic
[01:17] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:18] <oskude> !pppoe > frtdx
[01:18] <boink> but source-o-matic has many mistakes
[01:18] <boink> PLF doesn't exist anymore, for example
[01:18] <dakkar> fyrestrtr: I have no CD drive, and I don't know hav to make a Ubuntu installer into a USB stick that is EFI-bootable
[01:18] <frtdx> ty oskude
[01:19] <lansing> ok then wat should i do if it source o matic has alot of mistakes
[01:19] <boink> as I said, on your current sources.list, replace breezy with dapper
[01:19] <boink> that's all you need to do
[01:19] <oskude> lansing: report to seveas (or who did that tool)
[01:19] <boink> then upgrade your whole system first
[01:20] <frtdx> can someone recommend a good lightweight firewall for ubuntu
[01:20] <Arcainus> iptables ?
[01:20] <CromagDK> iptables ?
[01:20] <CromagDK> :D
[01:20] <cpk2> itables
[01:20] <cpk2> iptables*
[01:20] <cpk2> doh
[01:20] <cpk2> lol
[01:20] <HeathenDan> firestarter to config iptables
[01:20] <Arcainus> snap :)
[01:21] <oskude> !iptables > frtdx
[01:21] <Rookie_> !shorewall
[01:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[01:21] <fyrestrtr> dakkar: checked the installation wiki entry?
[01:21] <cpk2> but why bother configuring iptables
[01:21] <lansing> ok where can i get the latets version
[01:21] <boink> of what?
[01:21] <dakkar> fyrestrtr: no mention of EFI as far as I can see
[01:21] <frtdx> ty oskude
[01:21] <lansing> ubuntu as u said i have to upgrade
[01:22] <fyrestrtr> ask Intel support, as I doubt anyone here has any experience with EFI.
[01:22] <dakkar> fyrestrtr: I *might* copy the CD onto the stick, put elilo.efi in there, and try to boot the kernel... didn't work with slax
[01:22] <HeathenDan> cause an unconfiged iptables will not be invisible
[01:22] <SFA_AOK> is there a list of ubuntu chat rooms somewhere?
[01:22] <boink> apt-get upgrade will do the upgrade, as long as your sources.list is in order
[01:22] <wickedpuppy> SFA_AOK, /msg chanserv  list *ubuntu*
[01:22] <SFA_AOK> thanks
[01:23] <boink> after editing the sources.list, sudo apt-get clean .. then sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:23] <Ceddie> Does anyone know about the IDE drivers compiled into the Dapper 6.06/.1 kernel?  Specifically they return the wrong size/geometry as if I had an 80c cable to a Seagate 40GB drive, when I haven't and the BIOS only supports 32GB drives, and crashes on reboot.
[01:23] <Mez> !dvd > mez
[01:23] <oskude> boink: lansing dont forget sudo apt-get update before sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:24] <boink> yes, that too
[01:24] <lansing> oook
[01:24] <boink> are you on good bandwidth now?
[01:24] <oskude> !upgrade > lansing
[01:25] <boink> it will download a lot of stuff. don't use if you're on 56k modem
[01:25] <frtdx> !tuner
[01:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tuner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:25] <boink> or you'll be waiting for days :P
[01:25] <frtdx> !tv
[01:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:25] <lansing> thnx
[01:25] <fyrestrtr> Ceddie: enable LBA in your BIOS
[01:26] <boink> after the upgrade, you'll have the latest ubuntu stable release
[01:26] <fyrestrtr> !mythrv
[01:26] <fyrestrtr> !mythtv
[01:26] <boink> then you can work on the java
[01:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mythrv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:26] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[01:26] <frtdx> !lightweight
[01:26] <frtdx> oops
[01:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lightweight - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:26] <Ceddie> fyrestrt: it's not a BIOS problem - it worked on a 2.4 Slackware kernel.  It's an LX motherboard that cannot access >32GB
[01:26] <Manny> hi
[01:26] <frtdx> !mp3
[01:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:26] <fyrestrtr> Ceddie: livecd works?
[01:26] <oskude> !botabuse > frtdx
[01:27] <frtdx> sorry
[01:27] <oskude> frtdx: np, i saw you learn quick :)
[01:27] <frtdx> :) hehe greedy for info
[01:28] <Manny> maybe this is the 10^4th time you read this question, but please don't slap me with trouts or such: For some days, after an xorg update, my fglrx-powered OpenGL apps stopped working (they use software rendering). My log file contains the following - IMHO suspicious - lines:
[01:28] <Manny> (II) Loading local sub module "GLcore"
[01:28] <Manny> (II) LoadModule: "GLcore"
[01:28] <Manny> (II) Reloading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so
[01:28] <Manny> (II) GLX: Initialized MESA-PROXY GL provider for screen 0
[01:28] <Manny> fglrxinfo also shows that software rendering is used
[01:28] <Ceddie> firestrtr: livecd runs, but when I choose guided partitioning, it creates a partition in the inaccessible space, and I only managed to recover with Windows floppy and FDISK
[01:29] <Manny> am I missing anything? Should fglrx overwrite this libGLcore with its own version?
[01:29] <Manny> maybe sb. with a working fglrx OpenGL setup could check the GLcore-related messages in his Xorg log?
[01:29] <lansing> iso right??
[01:30] <Manny> I'm on Edgy Eft, btw.
[01:30] <oskude> !edgy > Manny
[01:31] <Manny> I see
[01:31] <Manny> maybe the topic should mention this shortly before releases? :)
[01:31] <Manny> oskude: thanks
[01:32] <snoops> hey, umm.. how can I search for something like "start text UNKNOWN CHARS HERE + NEWLINES end text" in a string like "blah blah start text random stuff here end text blah blah blah" with regex?
[01:32] <lansing> cant i just change my source list to dapper without harming my sys ?
[01:32] <oskude> snoops: by asking a guru ;)
[01:33] <oskude> lansing: you mean using packages from dapper in breezy (with out upgrading to dapper) ?
[01:33] <lansing> ya
[01:33] <oskude> lansing: i wouldnt recommend...
[01:34] <tucoz> snoops, of course. that is what regex' is made for.
[01:34] <Manny> snoops: "start text (.+) end text".
[01:34] <normeo> oskude: md5sum verified ok
[01:34] <lansing> o darn
[01:34] <oskude> normeo: ok, but check cd doesnt say ok ? (maybe burn it again, with low speed)
[01:35] <normeo> i've burnt it 3 times on different media
[01:35] <oskude> lansing: you did a fresh install of breezy like a sec ago ?
[01:35] <snoops> Manny yes.. but I thought .+ ignores new lines?
[01:35] <normeo> still same problem
[01:35] <lansing> ya
[01:35] <oskude> normeo: with what speeds ?
[01:35] <normeo> cd check goes the same way as loading the other menu options, hangs at kernel loading screen
[01:35] <oskude> lansing: then you could atleast try what you wanted :)
[01:35] <normeo> 704kb/s
[01:35] <normeo> slowest i can go
[01:35] <oskude> normeo: ok, then try "ide=nodma" as boot option
[01:36] <normeo> i dnt understand where to enter these boot options?
[01:36] <lansing> so  then it wont harm it
[01:36] <boink> ubuntu want to come out with a new release I think about twice a year
[01:36] <normeo> i've seen forum topics on them but no details on where to enter
[01:36] <oskude> normeo: theres an F? key for boot options (look at the bottom of the screen) and then add "ide=nodma" to the end of that line (without th "")
[01:37] <SFA_AOK> If I install Edgy with a live CD, mount the installation in the live CD, chroot to where edgy is installed and run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade.... would that update the installation on my hard drive with the latest packages? Or am i barking up the wrong tree?
[01:37] <normeo> ahh f6
[01:37] <normeo> yh i just dint understand how to put stuff in there :D
[01:37] <normeo> ill bbs, gonna give it a go
[01:38] <oskude> SFA_AOK: and why dont you boot with the installed system ?
[01:38] <fyrestrtr> SFA_AOK: that will upgrade your installation, but its easier to just run apt-get update from the system itself.
[01:38] <lansing> can i get the forum to edit the sourcelist plz if it ownt harm my sys
[01:39] <fyrestrtr> lansing: I can post my sources list for dapper if you want, just copy it and replace yours.
[01:39] <SFA_AOK> sorry, chat client crashed
[01:39] <oskude> lansing: forum to edit sources.list ?
[01:39] <lansing> ok plz
[01:39] <oskude> SFA_AOK: but in theory that could work, did you try ?
[01:40] <fyrestrtr> lansing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26284/
[01:41] <SFA_AOK> reason is, I have a core 2 duo with a motherboard with JMicron and ICH8... I can get Ubuntu installed on the Jmicron channel with a live CD but Grub doesnt like the jmicron... And the last live cd doesnt have ICH8 support, but a fix for this has been released
[01:41] <oskude> fyrestrtr: omg...
[01:41] <fyrestrtr> what/
[01:41] <lansing> thanx fyrestrtr
[01:41] <normeo> bk
[01:41] <normeo> oskude: no worky :(
[01:41] <oskude> fyrestrtr: so much unofficial repos for newbies...
[01:41] <lansing> wat do i tye to edit my sources list
[01:41] <SFA_AOK> so im thinking, install on JMicron, apt-get update/upgrade, fudge the grub options, change the drive to the ich8 and hopefully thatll fix things
[01:42] <SFA_AOK> pretty long way around but i think its the only way im going to get things workign today :/
[01:42] <oskude> normeo: hmm, im out of ideas, sorry
[01:44] <fyrestrtr> SFA_AOK: sounds like a job for the alternate install cd.
[01:44] <fyrestrtr> lansing: type gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:44] <kortzi> How can i get rid of the network connection icons on the desktop (other than delete the whole connection)?
[01:45] <Byan> lansing: everything your asking is here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[01:45] <frtdx> hi.. where can i find a step by step (Xp + ubuntu) dual boot guide
[01:45] <lansing> byan i dont undeerstant those forum thingys thats why i ask here
[01:45] <oskude> !dualboot > frtdx
[01:45] <SFA_AOK> unfortunately the alternate CD is more problematic... doesn't recognise my network card OR the ICH8 connector
[01:45] <Byan> lansing: forum things?
[01:45] <frtdx> ty
[01:45] <Byan> it's not a forum
[01:46] <Byan> it's a guide
[01:46] <SFA_AOK> unless you mean use it in a different way?
[01:46] <Byan> it's a full list on how to do certain thing
[01:46] <Byan> things*
[01:46] <lansing> yah those forum sites from ubuntu
[01:46] <dranreb> sorry to bother i tried everything i could, sudo apt-get build-dep ffmpeg
[01:46] <dranreb> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_multiverse_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[01:46] <Byan> thats not a forum, and you ask things that it specifically tells you in them...
[01:47] <shriphani> dranreb, sudo apt-get update
[01:47] <dranreb> did that
[01:47] <Byan> lansing: I mean, look at this- http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Repositories
[01:47] <Byan> thats exactly how you do edit the sources.list
[01:47] <dranreb> did that as well
[01:47] <normeo> oskude: you know for the boot options bit, you meant that at the main screen as soon as the cd is booted dint u?
[01:48] <oskude> normeo: yup
[01:48] <normeo> i don't see what the problem is, my gentoo cd still boots, and that pc is in pretty good shape, ubuntu got problems with nvidia at all?
[01:50] <normeo> theres not much installation related help on their website either, which is quite annoying
[01:50] <oskude> normeo: hmm, how much ram do you have ?
[01:50] <normeo> 512 in that one
[01:51] <oskude> normeo: hmm, which image did you download ?
[01:51] <normeo> ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso
[01:52] <frtdx> just making sure .. will i be able to boot into xp if i install GRUB to the MRB?
[01:52] <oskude> normeo: hmm...
[01:52] <frtdx> MBR
[01:52] <Byan> frtdx: yep
[01:52] <frtdx> ty
[01:52] <oskude> frtdx: yes, normally the ubuntu installer regonices windows and add a boot option for that
[01:52] <normeo> installing linux always gets me stressed ill be back in 2 mins, nipping for a cig
[01:53] <Samuli^> frtdx, you have windows on the first hard drive right?
[01:53] <frtdx> if something does go wrong .. i can just fix my boot record without reinstalling xp right?
[01:53] <frtdx> yes c:\ fat32
[01:53] <Alakazamz0r> He's gettin stressed installing Ubuntu?
[01:53] <normeo> indeed
[01:53] <shriphani> lol Alakazamz0r
[01:53] <Alakazamz0r> Hate to see him install FreeBSD or Gentoo or something.
[01:53] <Alakazamz0r> lol
[01:53] <normeo> Alakazamz0r: i can install gentoo
[01:53] <shriphani> well gentoo have an installer now
[01:53] <Alakazamz0r> yea normeo can you use gentoo?
[01:53] <Alakazamz0r> ohhh
[01:53] <Alakazamz0r> reeeally.
[01:54] <normeo> i don't use that crap installer of theirs
[01:54] <frtdx> Alakazamz0r:  have tried those on a vmware lol
[01:54] <Alakazamz0r> yea
[01:54] <shriphani> but the concept of a gentoo live cd still goes over my head
[01:54] <Alakazamz0r> i installed gentoo ONCE like 4 years ago.
[01:54] <Squirk> apt and a bunch of things are complaining about my locale settings
[01:54] <frtdx> if something does go wrong .. i can just fix my boot record without reinstalling xp right?
[01:54] <lansing> i still cant install java from terminal
[01:54] <Squirk> but localegen seems to be building the right locales
[01:54] <normeo> Alakazamz0r: i said i can install it dint say ought about using it
[01:55] <Alakazamz0r> lol
[01:55] <Alakazamz0r> why'd you install it then.
[01:55] <normeo> oskude: tnx for the help i gotta dash summart importants come up, ill probs be back later to ask for more help :P
[01:55] <normeo> Alakazamz0r: cos i got bored
[01:55] <Alakazamz0r> lol
[01:55] <Alakazamz0r> word
[01:55] <normeo> then i needed windows back cos my mothers computer illiterate
[01:55] <shriphani> lansing, sudo apt-get update
[01:55] <Samuli^> squirk, maybe you should 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' <--- this will restart your daemons, se be warned.
[01:55] <normeo> gtg anyway nice talking
[01:55] <Alakazamz0r> Well, Ubuntu is for the computer illiterate.
[01:55] <lansing> and it says W: GPG error: http://repository.debuntu.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 0E4
[01:56] <lansing> after i did update
[01:56] <Alakazamz0r> !pubkey
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pubkey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <Samuli^> !gpg
[01:56] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[01:56] <BlueEagle> lansing: Did you do !easysource?
[01:56] <Alakazamz0r> lansing, you have to import the pubkey
[01:57] <lansing> i know nothing of this program
[01:57] <shriphani> wait!!  http://repository.debuntu.org dapper
[01:57] <Squirk> Samuli^: That gave me a bunch of warnings (from perl, gtk, gdk) about unsupported locales, even after running it twice
[01:57] <shriphani> a german mirror
[01:57] <arepie> hello, who can help me with fglrx driveR?
[01:57] <dranreb> goody i just solve mine, i use back the backup old copy of source.list and voila it worked
[01:57] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell arepie about ask
[01:57] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell arepie about anyone
[01:57] <Samuli^> squirk, :/
[01:58] <unfknblvbl> !webcam
[01:58] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[01:58] <arepie> BlueEagle: check this out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26287/
[01:59] <Squirk> I don't understand why nothing can load the locales -- /usr/lib/locale has all the built locales and they're readable
[01:59] <dxdemetriou> Is there a program like pcanywhere that you can control a pc that is beside of router?
[02:00] <dranreb> krdc?
[02:00] <Alakazamz0r> dxdemetriou, http://www.tightvnc.com/
[02:00] <larsemil> when starting gnome i get "Error while starting XKB-configuration" and my keyboard does not work as i want it to...
[02:00] <arepie> please anyone check this out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26287/ , i've install fglrx driver, and my ATI control doesn't seems to be opened..
[02:01] <BlueEagle> arepie: No, you misunderstand. I cannot help you. I am just advising you as to how to procede with your queries. :)
[02:01] <dxdemetriou> Alakazamz0r, I mean if there is a program that find a user and not the ip. I can't configure my router. I have found the logmein that works, but only for windows
[02:01] <Alakazamz0r> dxdemetriou, any longin that'll work for windows will work under linux.
[02:01] <arepie> after install fglrx driver, my OpenGL is still mesa, how to change that to ATI ?
[02:01] <Alakazamz0r> the router doesn't know the difference.
[02:02] <oskude> arepie: did you do change "ati" to "fglrx" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[02:03] <arepie> yes
[02:03] <arepie> oskude: yes
[02:03] <oskude> arepie: did you restart x ?
[02:03] <arepie> oskude:  i'll show you my xorg.conf
[02:04] <BlueEagle> !samba
[02:04] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:04] <arepie> oskude: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26288/ here it is
[02:05] <SFA_AOK> sorry, was on the phone, gonna give my suggestion a try, thanks for the confirmation :)
[02:05] <oskude> arepie: remove (or comment) lines 170-174
[02:05] <arepie> oskude: okey..
[02:05] <fildo> hey whats smux guys
[02:05] <compilerwriter> Somone please quickly tell me how to mount a floppy.
[02:06] <oskude> arepie: well, actually that doesnt matter... as they are not loaded
[02:06] <arepie> yea
[02:06] <kryptoz> Hi al
[02:06] <arepie> do you know the problem?
[02:06] <oskude> arepie: did you restart x ?
[02:07] <arepie> oskude: how to restart x ?
[02:07] <oskude> arepie: or even the whole system (atelast with nvidia drivers rebooting x is enough)
[02:07] <compilerwriter> Help!  Someone please walk me through mounting a floppy.
[02:07] <catalytic> can someone please help me install jdk onto ubuntu
[02:07] <oskude> arepie: in x press ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:07] <Razerious> Ubuntu freezes (while booting) when it's about to start the network. When I press ctrl+c to skip it Ubuntu freezes after logging in, while loading my desktop. Anyone have any idea how to fix this? How can I disable my wireless NIC? I've got a Linksys WMP54G (RT2500 chip) card (only got this problem after activating my wireless network in Ubuntu).
[02:07] <catalytic> i was up till 4am this morning trying to get it to work
[02:07] <oskude> !floppy > compilerwriter
[02:07] <arepie> oskude: im on kubuntu actually
[02:07] <oskude> arepie: should work there too
[02:07] <oskude> !kubuntu > arepie
[02:08] <compilerwriter> in a terminal window  oskude?
[02:08] <arepie> oskude: x mean console ?
[02:08] <oskude> arepie: x windowing system is the graphical user interface (that kde uses in your case)
[02:08] <Sonic|Laptop> I think he figured it out :)
[02:08] <oskude> compilerwriter: read what ubotu told you
[02:09] <oskude> compilerwriter: ubotu should have tell you "To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone"
[02:09] <ra21vi> hi..
[02:09] <arepie> oskude: i've restart x
[02:10] <ra21vi> *i got some prblem regarding my X*
[02:10] <oskude> arepie: now check what fglrxinfo (or how itwas called) say ?
[02:10] <arepie> oskude: same output
[02:10] <ra21vi> and i m working on a viral adv. studio
[02:10] <arepie> OpenGL is still mesa
[02:11] <ra21vi> so i got major problem.. icannt do blender with X
[02:11] <oskude> arepie: hmm, try looking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log if fglrx is even loaded
[02:11] <ra21vi> any1 please help me regarding reinstalling and troubleshooting X
[02:11] <TmWrk_Quil> hrmm
[02:11] <arepie> oskude: i'll paste it.. hold on
[02:11] <oskude> ra21vi: define "cannot do blender with x" ?
[02:11] <ra21vi> arepie: guess u wont paste here ")
[02:11] <catalytic> what tool can i use in ubuntu to format a second partition?
[02:12] <ra21vi> oskude: i mean cann
[02:12] <oskude> ra21vi: as "blender" is a 3d modelling/animation/game tool
[02:12] <ra21vi> cannt do anything wihout blender 3d, and blender 3d cannt start without
[02:12] <ra21vi> X
[02:12] <arepie> oskude: here it goes http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26289/
[02:12] <oskude> ra21vi: i still dont understand whats your problem...
[02:13] <kidbuntu> please help me. my OPENOFFICE wont start
[02:13] <ra21vi> oskude: ok let me explain in simple words :)
[02:13] <oskude> arepie: hmm "WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found"
[02:13] <timo> How do I disable hdparm in Grub?
[02:13] <arepie> oskude: how to repair it?
[02:14] <ra21vi> oskude: actually i did install xgl for desktop refinement... replacing the original 810 xserver
[02:14] <oskude> arepie: please pastebin output of "lspci"
[02:14] <arepie> hold on
[02:14] <timo> something to add to menu.lst -list?
[02:14] <iratik> I have no clue what happened - but all the timestamps on the mysql server have shifted 6 hours negative - and my system clock is off by 6 hours as well - I looked on ubuntuguide.org and searched aroud - I just need to know the command to reset the time to the ntp servers ? (man ntpdate is way to kryptic)
[02:14] <ZeiP_> Hi. Is there a way to revert the config files of a package to their original state?
[02:14] <ra21vi> oskude: and then i removed it when i got problem starting X
[02:14] <oskude> ra21vi: youre using xgl atm ? i heard that made problems with some opengl tools and
[02:14] <oskude> !xgl > ra21vi
[02:14] <arepie> oskude: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26290/
[02:15] <ra21vi> oskude: now, after removing my XGL x-server and compiz part.... i m unable to start X
[02:15] <ra21vi> so i want to reinstall the X server for generic intel 810
[02:15] <Dieterbe> where i can see all the available software? i can't find it on the website :/
[02:15] <oskude> ra21vi: well, that would fit the #ubuntu-xgl support (i dont know xgl)
[02:15] <ra21vi> oskude: can u guide me to the *x-server package name] 
[02:16] <oskude> arepie: do you have 2 gfx cards ?
[02:16] <ra21vi> oskude: u didnt understand me
[02:16] <ra21vi> there is no XGL now
[02:16] <ra21vi> i removed it
[02:16] <oskude> ra21vi: xserver-xorg
[02:16] <arepie> no, i only have one
[02:16] <kidbuntu> please help me. my OPENOFFICE wont start
[02:16] <arepie> oskude:  no, i only have one
[02:16] <iratik> I have no clue what happened - but all the timestamps on the mysql server have shifted 6 hours negative - and my system clock is off by 6 hours as well - I looked on ubuntuguide.org and searched aroud - I just need to know the command to reset the time to the ntp servers ? (man ntpdate is way to kryptic)
[02:16] <oskude> arepie: ok, sec
[02:16] <ra21vi> oskude: r u sure
[02:16] <TmWrk_Quil> kidbuntu: please be more specific
[02:16] <catalytic> does anyone know how to get .jnlp 's to automatiaclly start in the java webstart?
[02:16] <kidbuntu> TmWrk_Quil: all of it won't start
[02:16] <ra21vi> oskude: so shud i just "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg" and every thing will b fine
[02:17] <ra21vi> let me check it
[02:17] <ra21vi> :)
[02:17] <iratik> catalytic: #!/path/to/java/web/start at the begining of the file?
[02:17] <oskude> arepie: hmm, do you have an external monitor/tv connected ?
[02:17] <oskude> arepie: i mean a second
[02:18] <catalytic> hmm i mean if i download a .jnlp with firefox
[02:18] <kidbuntu> TmWrk_Quil: the spreadsheet the writer all of it wont start.
[02:18] <catalytic> how do i make my system realise it is a .jnlp and automatically open javawebstart
[02:18] <ra21vi> how to start the X service in ubuntu without startx
[02:18] <catalytic> and start running it?
[02:18] <timo> hoto disable hdparm- I made fatal mistakes with that file and now even grub won t start
[02:18] <arepie> oskude: i only have my monitor connected
[02:18] <oskude> arepie: hmm, the first error is (EE) fglrx(0): Hardware has already been locked.
[02:19] <oskude> arepie: and second (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
[02:19] <ra21vi> timo: u can boot ur system with some live cd, mount the / partition where ur that ubuntu is installed, and then access that file, /etc/fstab, edit it, and reboot
[02:19] <arepie> oskude: how to solve that problem?
[02:19] <ra21vi> oskude: do u have AIGLX runniung on ur system
[02:20] <oskude> ra21vi: no, and never had, sorry
[02:20] <ra21vi> lol
[02:20] <iratik> I realize there are people with much more pressing issues that need help - but I just need one command - How to reset the system clock with ntpdate (i've googled, i've ubuntulinux.org'ed, i even looked at man ntpdate and it was too  cryptic)
[02:20] <bbrazil> iratik: sudo ntpdate
[02:20] <ra21vi> oskude: ok, i too was trying to make my desktop funky, and fall in ditch and hurt my time and work
[02:20] <ra21vi> with XGL
[02:20] <ra21vi> never gonna try it again
[02:20] <oskude> arepie: this is weird (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found but the config says BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
[02:20] <Razerious> How can I disable my wireless NIC when I haven't got access to my gnome desktop?
[02:21] <lansing> if got this updat pop up should i install them
[02:21] <ra21vi> oskude: hey, how to restart the X service, i dont want startx
[02:21] <timo> thanks ravi
[02:21] <ra21vi> oskude: i wnt to start it using Ubuntu service manager
[02:21] <oskude> ra21vi: from terminal "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[02:21] <ra21vi> timo: :)
[02:21] <Squirk> Razerious: ifdown ra0
[02:21] <Squirk> or similar
[02:21] <oskude> arepie: hmm this looks not so good (WW) fglrx(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum
[02:22] <ra21vi> oskude: ok :)
[02:22] <ra21vi> lot like Gentoo does
[02:22] <Razerious> Squirk: will that disable it from loading on startup as well?
[02:22] <Squirk> Razerious: no, only a one-off
[02:22] <arepie> oskude: i've googled, read wikis and how to averywhere, but i can't find my problems and i don't know how to solve it..
[02:22] <iratik> How do you reset the system clock to the correct time for your timezone on Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Server Version?
[02:22] <Razerious> how can I disable it from loading on startup?
[02:23] <Squirk> Razerious: There's probably a command to do it, but you can edit /etc/network/interfaces
[02:23] <sykes^> I got 2 NTFS partitions I want to make linux partitions, so I can save stuff on them. How do I do that?
[02:23] <oskude> arepie: look lines 1046-1049 in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26289/ (seems like problem with the driver or your card) :/
[02:23] <Razerious> thanks mate
[02:23] <Squirk> Razerious: "man interfaces" for the format
[02:24] <oskude> sykes^: you delete them and create new partitions. or you change to type of the partitions and format over them
[02:24] <lansing> ive got this pop up sayin that i got updates should i install them
[02:24] <sykes^> oskude, Yeah, but where do I do that?
[02:25] <valehru> Could anyone recommend a good AVI editing tool I could use in ubuntu?
[02:25] <alumno> hola
[02:25] <boink> which .deb installs make-kpkg?
[02:25] <oskude> arepie: sorry, im out of ideas. maybe bad hardware or bad driver, or...
[02:25] <ZeiP_> How can I tell Ubuntu a process is not running? It wants to be stopping the process via init file all the time, but just won't understand that the process is not running.
[02:25] <gord> valehru, try avidemux
[02:25] <alumno> alguien habla espaol
[02:25] <catalytic> how do i fix broken packages and unmet dependencies?
[02:25] <oskude> sykes^: you could ask ati, they made the driver ;)
[02:25] <iratik> How do you reset the system clock to the correct time for your timezone on Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Server Version?
[02:25] <valehru> gord, thx
[02:25] <boink> alumo: aqui no habla espanol
[02:25] <boink> !tell alumno about es
[02:25] <sykes^> oskude, Um, for my harddrive? o.O
[02:26] <oskude> sykes^: sorry ment arepie
[02:26] <wahjava> hi channel
[02:26] <oskude> arepie:  you could ask ati, they made the driver ;)
[02:26] <sykes^> oskude,  ok :P
[02:26] <Squirk> boink: kernel-package
[02:26] <wahjava> I'm trying to configure openssh server in ubuntu 6.06
[02:26] <boink> ta
[02:26] <lansing> ?  question should i install updates if the pop up says i got updates
[02:27] <ZeiP_> How can I tell Ubuntu a process is not running? It wants to be stopping the process via init file all the time, but just won't understand that the process is not running.
[02:27] <oskude> arepie: and, is that a real ati card or a cheap card with ati chip ?
[02:27] <kidbuntu> my OPENOFFICE.org won't run. all of it. please help
[02:27] <wahjava> I want to know is it possible to create authentication policies (for OpenSSH) based on Host
[02:27] <alumno> por que no se habla espaol boink
[02:27] <sykes^> oskude, How do I delete and create partitions then?
[02:27] <arepie> oskude: it is a real ati card
[02:28] <oskude> sykes^: i mostly use cfdisk
[02:28] <oskude> arepie: thats sad that it doesnt work then :(
[02:28] <sykes^> oskude, *waves* im a noob *waves* :P
[02:28] <wahjava> like if I login from its LAN, I can use password authentication, but if I login from world I must use pubkey authentication
[02:28] <iratik> alumno: por que todos que hablan espanol hablar en "#ubuntu-es"
[02:28] <iratik> How do you reset the system clock to the correct time for your timezone on Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Server Version?
[02:28] <pixelfreaky> wie heisst der deutsche ubuntu channel nomal?
[02:28] <oskude> arepie: sorry im really out ofideas, as the newest ati driver should work on your card (radeon9250+)
[02:28] <iratik> join #ubuntu-de
[02:28] <wahjava> Is it possible ?
[02:28] <pixelfreaky> danke
[02:29] <iratik> its invite only tho
[02:29] <boink> invite only?
[02:29] <alumno> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ok gracia sorry
[02:29] <iratik> Thats what its telling me
[02:29] <boink> iratik: dann frag mal auf Englisch :)
[02:29] <pixelfreaky> Das betreten von ubuntu-de erfordert einer einladung? *grbel*
[02:30] <boink> pixel: sieht so aus :/
[02:30] <boink> aber hier kannst Du auf Englisch fragen, kein Problem
[02:30] <pixelfreaky> hab ich was falsch gemacht war doch vor 10 min noch drin!?
[02:30] <oskude> pixelfreaky: omg, that shouldnt be!?
[02:30] <kidbuntu> my OPENOFFICE.org won't run. all of it. please help
[02:30] <sykes^> oskude, If I want to delete and hda1 and hda5 and create then in one big linux partition, how do I do that?
[02:30] <oskude> !timezoneconf > iratik
[02:30] <iratik> Thank you oskude
[02:31] <oskude> sykes^: just like you said :) delete those partitions and make a new one
[02:31] <iratik> oskude: please don't tell me thats an X program - its a terminal program right?
[02:31] <jolt> Im having problems with GLX not knowing what my video card is....
[02:31] <oskude> iratik: i hope i just did "apt-cache search timezone"
[02:31] <jolt> OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
[02:31] <jolt> OpenGL renderer string: unknown board/AGP/SSE2
[02:31] <jolt> OpenGL version string: 2.1.0 NVIDIA 96.25
[02:32] <oskude> iratik: you can get more info about that package with "apt-cache show timezoneconf"
[02:32] <jolt> Its causing problems with apps not detecting it properly
[02:32] <sykes^> oskude, Yeah but theres a problem: I dunno what to type
[02:32] <iratik> well the timezone I could care less about than getting the time right - whatever command produces the output 'syncing with time server' on startup (but i can't restart, too many users)
[02:32] <oskude> sykes^: ah, sec
[02:32] <oskude> sykes^ 83 for ext3
[02:33] <sykes^> Weird, X crashes sometimes
[02:33] <sykes^> I didnt see everything oskude
[02:33] <oskude> sykes^:  83 for ext3
[02:33] <sykes^> oskude, um
[02:33] <kidbuntu> my OPENOFFICE.org won't run. all of it. please help
[02:33] <kidbuntu> my OPENOFFICE.org won't run. all of it. please help
[02:33] <kidbuntu> my OPENOFFICE.org won't run. all of it. please help
[02:33] <kidbuntu> my OPENOFFICE.org won't run. all of it. please help
[02:33] <LoRez> Warning: `kidbuntu' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[02:34] <oskude> sykes^: you asked about type, so 83 (linux) is the type for ext3 partitions
[02:34] <binfalse> yo
[02:34] <eucalre> hey
[02:34] <iratik> kidbuntu: Are there any error messages that are shown on the screen when you try to run OpenOffice?
[02:34] <sykes^> oskude, no, I asked "what" to type, I have no idea :P
[02:34] <kidbuntu> iratik: nope it just wont
[02:34] <oskude> sykes^: oh... do you have only one hd ?
[02:34] <cafuego> kidbuntu:  run 'oowriter' in a terminal.
[02:35] <sykes^> oskude, No, I got 2 x 80 gb
[02:35] <oskude> sykes^: ok, and where is the disk you want to partition ?
[02:35] <iratik> kidbuntu: Its difficult to fix a car when the check-engine light comes on and it wont start right? - You have to know what is happenning that is going wrong when you try to start up - open a terminal , run oowriter, and pastebin any messages that come up
[02:35] <LSD`> what do you have to install to get mp3 support?
[02:35] <eucalre> I'll think about it
[02:35] <binfalse> confidential
[02:35] <cafuego> !restrictedformats > LSD`
[02:36] <sykes^> oskude, err, gonna try to find that out, hang on
[02:36] <oskude> sykes^: you can allso say on which ide bus and if master or slave
[02:36] <kidbuntu> cafuego: a lot of txt appeared http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26295/ see the error
[02:36] <catalytic> can anyone point me in the right direction for getting jre, or jdk or any form of java installed on ubuntu?
[02:36] <oskude> sykes^: but you can look with "sudo fdisk -l"
[02:36] <sykes^> oskude, Talk to me like I'm a 3 year old please :P
[02:36] <TmWrk_Quil> anyone here know of a service similar to dynip.org that will allow me to set a resolvable hostname for my ubuntu box
[02:36] <catalytic> the only reason i installed it on this machine was to practice wrting java
[02:37] <sykes^> oskude, ok
[02:37] <kidbuntu> iratik: a lot of txt appeared http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26295/ see the error
[02:37] <cafuego> catalytic: install sun-java5-jre from the `universe' repository.
[02:37] <oskude> sykes^: hello my dear, wanna lolly ? :P
[02:37] <sykes^> oskude, lol
[02:37] <TmWrk_Quil> or is there a simple apt-get install dynip-similar-service that i can just snatch out of thin air?
[02:37] <oskude> sykes^: i think "sudo fdisk -l" should print all your disks and partitions
[02:37] <ZeiP_> How can I force Ubuntu init script to understand that freeradius is no longer running, or even installed? It just keeps trying to restart it, and fails at stopping.
[02:37] <sykes^> oskude, Yeah hang on
[02:37] <catalytic> sun-java5-jre
[02:38] <catalytic> catalytic@nix:~$ sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[02:38] <catalytic> Reading package lists... Done
[02:38] <catalytic> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:38] <catalytic> E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-jre
[02:38] <catalytic> catalytic@nix:~$
[02:38] <kidbuntu> cafuego: do you have a knack of it?
[02:38] <catalytic> how do i specify the repo?
[02:38] <catalytic> and what repo should i specify?
[02:38] <Squirk> There's something broken with my compiled locales -- setting "LC_COLLATE=C" avoids the issue
[02:38] <sykes^> oskude, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26296/
[02:38] <cafuego> catalytic: universe afaik
[02:38] <cafuego> or was it multiverse, lemme see
[02:38] <Squirk> but I cannot figure out how to repair it
[02:38] <stjepan> hi
[02:38] <catalytic> multiverse i think
[02:38] <catalytic> and i have tried that already
[02:38] <cafuego> multiverse
[02:38] <catalytic> but it keeps telling me it has broken dependencies
[02:38] <oskude> sykes^: hmm, it shows only one hd...
[02:39] <cafuego> sun-java5-jre - Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0
[02:39] <cafuego> Which broken dependencies?
[02:39] <catalytic> are you using apt-get cafuego?
[02:39] <oskude> sykes^: but is that the hd you want to repartition ?
[02:39] <sykes^> oskude, I have 2, and they worked in windows
[02:39] <catalytic> or the synaptic package manager?
[02:39] <cafuego> catalytic: Yup, ubuntu 6.10
[02:39] <sykes^> oskude, Yeah
[02:39] <catalytic> ok, so i type
[02:39] <cafuego> catalytic: well, it works fine in both, here
[02:39] <sykes^> oskude, But I need to finish copying the music from the NTFS partition first, takes like 20 more min :P
[02:40] <catalytic> apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[02:40] <catalytic> ?
[02:40] <iratik> alright - thats what i'm talking about - i've figured out that your openoffice is all screwed up. All I could imagine to do is to completely remove open office and reinstall it or update the whole thing - i looked at the packages and can identify the core package - maybe .. "apt-get update openoffice.org-core, openoffice.org-writer"
[02:40] <stjepan> I want to keep my ubuntu system up to date. I used archlinux till now. With archlinux I can keep my system up to date by using the "current" branch. SUSE can also be updated. Why ubuntu can't? I want GNOME 2.16, I want GTK 2.10, I want xorg 7.1 in my ubuntu...... can I somehow make my ubuntu system up-to-date???
[02:40] <cafuego> catalytic: yup
[02:40] <oskude> sykes^: ok... when its ready, you can do "sudo cfdisk /dev/hda" to start play with the partitions, but dont fear, all changes you make in cfdisk, are only then active when you press [ Write ] 
[02:40] <catalytic> it cant find it
[02:41] <catalytic> and when i search for sun-java5-jre
[02:41] <cafuego> stjepan: You can, but that means running non-tested and unsupported software.
[02:41] <catalytic> in synaptic
[02:41] <catalytic> i get no results
[02:41] <catalytic> which repo do i add the multiverse flag to?
[02:41] <stjepan> cafuego: edgy?
[02:41] <sykes^> oskude, Ok, and I should make it to ext3, right?
[02:41] <cafuego> stjepan: Of course, you could wait until 6.10 is released in 2 weeks time and use that
[02:41] <bain> howdy .. I'm having a very wierd problem .. I had a working hoardy .. and have installed dapper .. on the live CD networking is working fine .. aftre install network is not working .. eth0 comes up and ip addresses is correct .. RX and TC is sending .. no errors .. but can't ping or anythign
[02:41] <stjepan> cafuego: isn't edgy now stable enough?
[02:41] <LSD`> stjepan: ubuntu follows a similar "old and stale" philosophy as its debian grand-daddy it seems
[02:41] <cafuego> catalytic: Just append 'multiverse' to the normal dapper repo line.
[02:41] <kidbuntu> iratik: doesnt work
[02:41] <Alakazamz0r> bain, type dhclient
[02:42] <oskude> sykes^: forgot what you wanted to do with the partition... (but there are allso drivers for windows to read and write ext3 partitions)
[02:42] <stjepan> LSD`: so sad.... and bad ..... :(
[02:42] <cafuego> stjepan: Try and see
[02:42] <iratik> kidbuntu - reinstall ubuntu - that should fix it
[02:42] <tiredbones> I just updated to dapper and would like to get to the screen for setting the properties for evolution. What path should I use?
[02:42] <sykes^> osk I want to delete the NTFS parts and make it into 1 linux part
[02:42] <Antoni1> hey, somebody knows the meaning of
[02:42] <Antoni1> CONFIG_ACPI_TOSHIBA=m ?
[02:42] <Antoni1> more than anything, I would like to know the meaning of the "m" there.
[02:42] <sykes^> osk I want to delete the NTFS parts and make it into 1 linux part
[02:42] <sykes^> oskude,  I want to delete the NTFS parts and make it into 1 linux part
[02:42] <cafuego> LSD`: Not quite, Ubuntu releases a month or so after Gnome, twice a year, so it stays up to date.
[02:42] <kidbuntu> iratik: ohoo.. no way..i've already invested so much time to this. and thats it? is there any other way you can help me
[02:42] <bain> Alakazamz0r: how is tryignt op get dhcp going to solve the problem ?
[02:43] <stjepan> cafuego: is ubuntu crazy at considering stable stuff, just like debian is? For debian is stable something really really really old and stable. Is the ubuntu story similiar to debian's one?
[02:43] <catalytic> do i need to add an authentication key to access the multiverse repo?
[02:43] <oskude> sykes^: yup, then i would recommend ext3
[02:43] <cafuego> LSD`: But updating all software the moment a new version is released leads to unmainaintability.
[02:43] <iratik> kidbuntu: Join #openoffice.org
[02:43] <Alakazamz0r> well if you have a dhcp server on your router i'll pull the info off it bain
[02:43] <Alakazamz0r> is it NAT or DHCP?
[02:43] <catalytic> what repo?
[02:43] <ZeiP_> How can I force Ubuntu init script to understand that freeradius is no longer running, or even installed? It just keeps trying to restart it, and fails at stopping.
[02:43] <Nem1> How Can i play window's games on Linux (Ed)ubuntu???
[02:43] <kidbuntu> iratik: how?
[02:43] <cafuego> stjepan: No, and I think you have the wrong idea about Debian.
[02:43] <iratik> kidbuntu: "/join #openoffice.org"
[02:43] <sykes^> oskude, Ok, ill be back in 20 min. But can I talk to you again if I need some help?
[02:43] <catalytic> cafuego what repo's do u have listed in synaptic repo manager?
[02:43] <bain> Alakazamz0r: ok .. assuming I've not tried this .. dhcp is not being passed to the machine .. network is still not functioning
[02:43] <oskude> sykes^: but wait, you cant make those 2 ntfs partitions to 1 partition (without deleting all partitions)
[02:43] <sykes^> oskude, Ok, so 2 ext3 then?
[02:44] <cafuego> stjepan: Debian doesn't add new versions to stable because it would *break* things for many users.
[02:44] <Alakazamz0r> bain, are you hooked up to a router?
[02:44] <oskude> sykes^: yes, cause the one ntfs is a primary partitiona and the other one is a logical partition
[02:44] <cafuego> catalytic: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[02:44] <Nem1> How Can i play window's games on Linux (Ed)ubuntu???
[02:44] <catalytic> ok cheers
[02:44] <catalytic> ill try that one now
[02:44] <ZeiP_> Nem1: Wine and other emulators work with some.
[02:44] <sykes^> oskude, Ah ok. Ill be back in 20 min to fix that, and ill bug you if I need help :P
[02:44] <iratik> Nem1: VMWare or Wine - google 'windows emulation ubuntu'
[02:44] <iratik> Is there a place where I can go to talk about timezone issues - i've been debugging this for over 41 minutes now, I really need to reset the timezone from whatever 'BST' is to 'CST' and I just totally have no clue how to do it, and i've googled the issue to death - i'm going nuts here, and I just needto set the timezone (yeah timezoneconf is a GUI program, i can't run it on a server) Can someone point me to where I can find help, or doe
[02:44] <sykes^> oskude, Thanks btw
[02:45] <oskude> sykes^: roger, youre welcome
[02:45] <cafuego> iratik: 'sudo tzconfig'
[02:45] <iratik> What? It says i'm set to US/Central!
[02:45] <cafuego> How rude!
[02:46] <iratik> cafuego: thanks, its just not what i expected.
[02:46] <bain> Alakazamz0r: yes .. I have a firewall working .. connected to a switch .. which is working .. the hoardy installation was working .. with a static ip address .. installed dapper .. with same ipstatic ip address .. and it doens't work .. however the static IP I configured during the live CD for installationa nd backup workewd fine
[02:46] <ZeiP_> Do Ubuntu init scripts save the software state (running or not) somewhere else than the pid file?
[02:46] <iratik> cafuego: I figured - the timzone setting was the problem , but it may be the universal "UTC=yes" setting, but i forget where that is
[02:46] <Squirk> iratik: CST = (US) Central Standard Time?
[02:46] <iratik> Yep
[02:47] <catalytic> http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-commercial/Release: Unable to find expected entry  restricted/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[02:47] <Alakazamz0r> bain, can you ping an IP?
[02:47] <bain> Alakazamz0r: no
[02:47] <Alakazamz0r> can you ping your gateway?
[02:47] <cafuego> catalytic: comment out that line
[02:47] <tiredbones> I just updated to dapper and would like to get to the screen for setting the properties for evolution. What path should I use to get to these screens?
[02:47] <Alakazamz0r> put the output of ifconfig in a pastebin for me.
[02:48] <TmWrk_Quil> did anyone see the question i asked earlier re: dynip?
[02:48] <bain> I've rebooted using the live CD
[02:48] <bain> hold on
[02:48] <cafuego> iratik: grep tells me /etc/default/rcS
[02:48] <iratik> IS there a daemon I can restart to reload the settings in '/etc/default/rcS'
[02:48] <LSD`> LSD 1, Free software fascists: 0 >:)
[02:48] <LSD`> now, to get xvid, divx and all those niceties going >:)
[02:48] <iratik> cafuego: UTC=no
[02:48] <catalytic> eh comment out?
[02:48] <TmWrk_Quil> you'll have to excuse me, i'm still a bit new to ubuntu and debian in general, but i'm looking for an easy way to install a dynip style  service on a box so i dont have to remember the ip address
[02:48] <iratik> cafuego: It was formelly set to yes
[02:48] <bain> Alakazamz0r: ip addres is 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 default gateway is 192.168.0.250 kernel module is tulip for the davicom network card
[02:48] <catalytic> im using the synaptic repo manager
[02:49] <cafuego> iratik: /etc/rcS.d/S50hwclock.sh
[02:49] <Squirk> iratik: /etc/default/rcS
[02:49] <cafuego> catalytic: prefix it with #
[02:49] <iratik> too late - i just decided to restart, so I could reload /etc/default/rcS
[02:49] <cafuego> Or just disable it
[02:49] <Squirk> whoops
[02:49] <Alakazamz0r> bain, you sure thats the gateway.
[02:49] <cafuego> bad iratik
[02:49] <antarex> hello to everybody
[02:49] <Alakazamz0r> And have you tried another network cable?
[02:50] <iratik> cafuego: I don't know how - but that being wrong apparently throws time off all the way back to December 31, 1969 - all timestamp's are off by 6 hours
[02:50] <Lilandra> what java do you have to use if you have a PPC?
[02:50] <cafuego> iratik: yeah, Jan 1, 1970 in UTC (epoch) was 1969 in the US :-)
[02:50] <oskude> TmWrk_Quil: if you do "apt-cache search dyndns" you get a list of some tools that could do that
[02:51] <cafuego> iratik: Just run ntpdate to set the time right
[02:51] <kidbuntu> why does GXINE always makes a flick every few seconds when watching a DVD on a fullscree mode
[02:51] <iratik> Cafuego: The time issue has been resolved - IT says Wed Oct 11 07:50:49 CDT
[02:51] <bain> Alakazamz0r: yes .. I've been working with linux for 12 years ... I have rebooted with dapper CD and in live system .. I can ping and everything is working fine ..
[02:51] <morrye> How do you copy directories to root only folders?
[02:51] <kidbuntu> why does GXINE always makes a flick every few seconds when watching a DVD on a fullscreen mode
[02:51] <iratik> I appreciate it guys - i realize that helping people can be stressful here
[02:51] <cafuego> Lilandra: The IBM one (has a sort-of-working browser plugin) is a manual download & install. Check the wiki.
[02:51] <Schalken> whats the difference between AIGLX and X with the 'composite extension'?
[02:51] <Lilandra> thanks cafuego
[02:52] <tiredbones> I just updated to dapper and would like to get to the screen for setting the properties for evolution. What path should I use to get to these screens?
[02:53] <catalytic> thanks cafuego i think thats done it, i found it now and I am installing it
[02:53] <catalytic> can you suggest a partition tool i should install as well?
[02:53] <oskude> TmWrk_Quil: and btw, youre talking about "internet" ips, not "local" ips ?
[02:53] <kidbuntu> why does GXINE always makes a flick every few seconds when watching a DVD on a fullscreen mode
[02:54] <ra21vi> hi
[02:54] <LSD`> kidbuntu: your pc is too slow?
[02:54] <ra21vi> got a problem... regarding Xserver
[02:54] <ra21vi> any1 listening to me
[02:54] <Alakazamz0r> bain, if you've been working w/linux for 12 years, you should be able to fix a problem like this.
[02:54] <disasm> ra21vi: details?
[02:54] <ra21vi> i need to solve it , else i will miss my deadline
[02:54] <Alakazamz0r> no offence.
[02:55] <ra21vi> disasm: actually i installed XGL, and then removed it, as it was too heavy for my system intel 915 chip...
[02:55] <kidbuntu> LSD` how come if i play DVD in mplayer. no flick shows up on a fullscreen.
[02:55] <ra21vi> now i m  having problem srating my Xserver..
[02:55] <ra21vi> GDM quits compaining /path/to/Xserver/Xgl :0 :0 --fullscreen" not found
[02:55] <ra21vi> thoug i have removed my xgl
[02:55] <ra21vi> but still its path somewhere in executable string
[02:56] <disasm> ra21vi: try Xorg -configure thats probly easier than troubleshooting the xorg.conf file
[02:56] <ra21vi> disasm: ^^
[02:56] <none> Alakazamz0r: working with, not on.  that just means hes been in the presence of routers with linux on them
[02:56] <oskude> tiredbones: hmm, you mean the evolution email client ? can remember ubuntu installer ever asking properties for that...
[02:56] <bain> Alakazamz0r: the point I was trying to make is this is not a configuration or simple problem .. and having used linux for a long time does not mean I know everything .. just more then a beginner .. and asking me to check the beginner things is going to lead nowhere.
[02:56] <Alakazamz0r> bain, what do you think it coould be?
[02:56] <disasm> ra21vi: also, if you reconfigure Xorg, and it fails, make sure your mouse device is correct
[02:56] <oskude> tiredbones: *cant
[02:56] <ra21vi> disasm: can u tell me something in text mode to configure GDM.conf
[02:56] <Alakazamz0r> lol none
[02:56] <none> lol
[02:56] <Alakazamz0r> bain, it may be the module... thats the only thing i could think of
[02:56] <kidbuntu> why does GXINE always makes a flick every few seconds when watching a DVD on a fullscreen mode
[02:56] <Alakazamz0r> or your routing is jacked up
[02:57] <Pinkle_Rose> hello
[02:57] <ra21vi> hey Everybuddy
[02:57] <bain> Alakazamz0r: if I knew .. I would not be here asking for others what the problem could be ...
[02:57] <ra21vi> help me out
[02:57] <Pinkle_Rose> is able to install fbsplash on 2.6.15 kernel?
[02:57] <morrye> How do you copy Directories?
[02:57] <ra21vi> i need to sort it out
[02:57] <Alakazamz0r> bain, im just saying think about it.
[02:57] <tiredbones> oskude, when you first click on evolution it ask foe the in and out server names. I entered the wrong one. Now I want to correct it.
[02:57] <Alakazamz0r> if i think hard enough, most the time i can correct the problem myself.
[02:57] <ra21vi> i m just going to miss my Deadline to submit my final animation work
[02:57] <ra21vi> :(
[02:57] <oskude> tiredbones: ah ok, sec
[02:58] <ra21vi> just cuz i played a lil with Xgl
[02:58] <bain> Alakazamz0r: thanks for showing me the great support ubuntu community shows to users ..
[02:58] <catalytic> whats the easiest way to know what version of ubuntu you are running?
[02:58] <ra21vi> any X-server expert here :)
[02:58] <BigChirv> catalytic, Ctrl+Alt+F1 :-)
[02:58] <Alakazamz0r> bain, what do you want me to do man, magicaly fix it?
[02:58] <catalytic> that sounds like bitter resentment bain
[02:58] <bain> catalytic: cat /etc/issue
[02:58] <ra21vi> probabaly the question is wrong
[02:58] <none> ra21vi: what does the flicker look like
[02:58] <p_masho> catalytic: system > About Ubuntu
[02:58] <ra21vi> :))
[02:58] <catalytic> lol
[02:58] <Alakazamz0r> Im TRYING to help you, and you're treating me like im a moron for checking the simple things.
[02:58] <tiredbones> catalytic, lsb_release -a
[02:58] <catalytic> 3 different ways
[02:58] <ra21vi> none: no flickers
[02:59] <catalytic> 4
[02:59] <p_masho> got an update this morning ofo php 5.1.2 ? strange as php is on 5.1.6 ? anyone else experienced this ?
[02:59] <ra21vi> any1 here
[02:59] <ra21vi> please guide me to the solution
[02:59] <Alakazamz0r> dont tell me he got all pissy and left.
[02:59] <catalytic> heh
[03:00] <catalytic> i tried the system>about ubuntu optino
[03:00] <none> ra21vi: lol sorry i read the different question and thought i read ur name next to  it
[03:00] <catalytic> which i guess is opening a help service
[03:00] <catalytic> but whenever i open the help file
[03:00] <catalytic> the computer slows to a grinding hault
[03:00] <oskude> tiredbones: hmm, cant find how to reopen that "wizard" ... try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall evolution" (if thats not enough, do "sudo apt-get --purge remove evolution" and then install it again)
[03:01] <oskude> tiredbones: or maybe its enough when you delete the folder ~/.evolution
[03:01] <ra21vi> bored
[03:01] <tiredbones> oskude, are you having a hard time find it. I couldn't see it anywheres.
[03:01] <ra21vi> no one is getting my problem
[03:01] <ra21vi> though i m in urgent
[03:01] <Pinkle_Rose> is able to install fbsplash on 2.6.15 kernel?
[03:02] <catalytic> then u should of bought a product with 24 / 7 support hotline
[03:02] <Alakazamz0r> LOL
[03:02] <Alakazamz0r> LOL
[03:02] <oskude> tiredbones: didnt find anything in manpage (Except -c Start Evolution by activating the desired component.)
[03:02] <Alakazamz0r> word catalytic
[03:02] <oskude> tiredbones: but that doesnt seem to include "wizard", or its called something other
[03:02] <ra21vi> does that mean i m really gonna miss my deadline
[03:03] <ra21vi> thats not fair
[03:03] <tiredbones> oskude, thanks.
[03:03] <ra21vi> well if this is such.. then
[03:03] <ra21vi> ok I accept it...
[03:03] <oskude> ra21vi: i hope you where aware that xgl is stil alpha version!
[03:03] <ra21vi> oskude: no sorry i was not
[03:03] <ra21vi> but realy i did mistake
[03:03] <ra21vi> a big mistake
[03:04] <ra21vi> i played but didn't knew that would cost me this much
[03:04] <sykes^> oskude, Ok done now, what did you say I should do?
[03:04] <oskude> ra21vi: you could try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop" but will propably take (too?) long...
[03:04] <ra21vi> oskude: its just Xserver problem
[03:05] <ra21vi> and i m down just of this simple problem
[03:05] <oskude> sykes^: sudo cfdisk /dev/hda
[03:05] <ra21vi> i cannt figure it out oskude
[03:05] <sykes^> oskude, Hang on, found something here.. ill show you
[03:05] <oskude> ra21vi: sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg ?
[03:05] <sykes^> oskude, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26299/ check there now
[03:06] <ra21vi> oskude: let me try.. but i guess it wont help me  :-(
[03:06] <sykes^> oskude, hdb1 is NTFS right now, right?
[03:06] <oskude> sykes^: yup
[03:06] <sykes^> oskude, Ok, I want to make that ext3 too
[03:06] <profoX`> I have a big problem (as you can see here https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/courier-authlib/+bug/64615) is there a way to let me do an apt-get upgrade or anything.. it always shows an error no matter what I try with dpkg or apt-get
[03:06] <ra21vi> i dont know why developers cannt focus to make things easy
[03:07] <ra21vi> Linux on Desktop seems far away
[03:07] <sykes^> oskude, I get a error when I type  sudo cfdisk /dev/hda
[03:07] <LSD`> ra21vi: tell me about it
[03:07] <oskude> sykes^: then on that drive you do "sudo cfdisk /dev/hdb" (but you can allso use System>Administration>Disks"
[03:07] <ra21vi> LSD`: forget it, sorry buddy.. i m just out of my mind
[03:07] <profoX`> ra21vi: no its not far away :) its everywhere in my house
[03:08] <profoX`> depends what you seek for in an OS
[03:08] <oskude> ra21vi: you used alpha software! so your broke it!
[03:08] <profoX`> and what software you need/can miss
[03:08] <catalytic> how can i kill aservice?
[03:08] <catalytic> or list services first
[03:08] <tfr> S tu polacy?
[03:08] <catalytic> then choose one to kill
[03:08] <oskude> ra21vi: just undo what you did to get xgl...
[03:08] <TmWrk_Quil> oskude: i know that, i'm just trying to find the best way to go about doing it - i know what i want to do - i just don't know the best practice to do it on ubuntu - so i'll ask again, is there some sort of apt-get install for a dynip like service - or must it all be done manually
[03:08] <ra21vi> profoX`: ya, u seem to grasp only sentences, niot the meaning inside
[03:08] <catalytic> the help file is stil lgoing crazy
[03:08] <LSD`> ra21vi: debian-based distro make it slightly more difficult by placing licencing restrictions on stuff windows users take for granted like MP3 and whatnot
[03:08] <profoX`> ra21vi: euhm yes
[03:08] <ra21vi> oskude: actually i did intall XGL-xserver graphics
[03:09] <oskude> TmWrk_Quil: as i said, "apt-cache search dyndns" shows you tools that you can install...
[03:09] <ra21vi> oskude: and then made a complete cut and paste in /etc/X.../gdm.conf
[03:09] <berent> how to login as invisible on gaim
[03:09] <oskude> sykes^: mind pastenbin the error (with command)
[03:09] <ra21vi> i didnt even touhed my xorg.conf
[03:09] <sykes^> oskude, the error is on Swedish
[03:09] <oskude> ra21vi: and hopefully made backups of files you modified ?
[03:09] <oskude> sykes^: sec
[03:10] <berent> how to login as invisible on gaim yahoo
[03:10] <oskude> sykes^: you can get errors temporarly in eglish too, but i forgot...
[03:10] <sykes^> oskude, Oh, and I tried to formate hda1 with the Disk thing, but I can aktivate it now
[03:10] <ra21vi> oskude: there i did the biggest mistake, i wont forget in my life... i forgot to take backup of configs
[03:10] <oskude> ra21vi: and we should pay for your mistakes ? ;)
[03:11] <oskude> ra21vi: try "LANG=en_EN;sudo cfdisk /dev/hda" (just a wild guess)
[03:11] <oskude> ra21vi: sorry, ment sykes^ q
[03:11] <catalytic> is there a way to reinstall the help service, everytime i go to use it, my computers hard drive goes mental for about 5 mins
[03:12] <proj> hey all. I can't get my mind around how to pass arguments to m4 can some one expand upon the section "INVOKING m4" in the manual
[03:12] <proj> it will be greatly appreciated.
[03:12] <asd> hey, how can i as root give ownership of all files in a folder and it's subfolders to another user?
[03:12] <sykes^> oskude, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26300/
[03:12] <Dr_willis> catalytic,  Help service?
[03:12] <ra21vi> oskude: ya :-)) ... and then mkfs.reiserfs /dev/hda
[03:12] <oskude> sykes^: omg it worked ?
[03:13] <catalytic> the red and white life buoy thing
[03:13] <ra21vi> oskude: that would have solve my problem completely
[03:13] <Dr_willis> asd,  chown, chmod commands.
[03:13] <oskude> sykes^: darn, that doesnt sound good :(
[03:13] <ra21vi> oskude: just kidding
[03:13] <catalytic> i went to click system then about ubuntu
[03:13] <catalytic> whichi opens it as well i think
[03:13] <catalytic> and i can hardly use the comptuer
[03:13] <catalytic> happened last night as well
[03:13] <BigChirv> catalytic, try to speed up the disc access enabling DMA transfers
[03:13] <oskude> sykes^: what was the last think you did with that partition table ?
[03:13] <berent> how to login as invisible on gaim yahoo
[03:13] <berent> ??
[03:13] <catalytic> i only have a 10 gig HD
[03:13] <sykes^> oskude, I formated hda5 with the admin > disk thing, but I cant aktivate it after
[03:14] <catalytic> with ubuntu installed on the first 5 gig
[03:14] <sykes^> oskude, um, I think I messed around in it when I installed Ubuntu
[03:14] <oskude> sykes^: did you delete and create partitions ? did you reboot after that ? its recommended to reboot after modifying partitions...
[03:14] <catalytic> the second 5 gig is unfomatted at them oment
[03:14] <sykes^> oskude, I think so
[03:15] <sykes^> oskude, But we can delete all parts except hda3 (where ubuntu is), it doesnt matter
[03:15] <oskude> sykes^: well, then :) but, hmm...
[03:15] <ra21vi> oskude: tellme one thing, is there any option to remove the xorg serve and gdm completely with its all config ans users settings files
[03:16] <oskude> ra21vi: sudo apt-get remove --purge (removes and purges/deletes the config files)
[03:16] <oskude> ra21vi: i lost your fdisk -l output...
[03:16] <ra21vi> oskude: and when i will reinstall, will i get the same config, as i get when installing the fersh xorg by ubuntu CD
[03:17] <catalytic> i want to format the second 5 gig and set it as a scratch disk
[03:17] <catalytic> but not sure where to start doing that
[03:17] <oskude> sykes^: sorrym ment again ra21vi: i lost your fdisk -l output...
[03:17] <oskude> ra21vi: yes, for the packages you --purge and then install
[03:18] <ra21vi> oskude: so will i have to reconfig the xserver
[03:18] <tiredbones> oskude,  I tried deleting ~/.evoulution, but when I start it the wizards for setting it up  don't show.
[03:18] <oskude> sykes^: nvm, found it
[03:19] <oskude> tiredbones: then i can only think of "sudo apt-get --install reinstall evolution" or the other one
[03:19] <sykes^> oskude, gonna try to reboot, brb
[03:20] <tiredbones> oskude,  ok thanks.
[03:20] <ZeiP_> http://mureakuha.com/paste/?eb2e5414a7f097a5e5dff0459f68b1a9 -- how can I fix this?
[03:20] <CVirus> Anybody succeeded in getting the Broadcom 4311 wireless card to work ?
[03:20] <babwe2> 
[03:20] <dirtyomlet> CVirus: yes
[03:20] <CVirus> dirtyomlet: you ?
[03:21] <oskude> tiredbones: where the other solution could be "sudo apt-get --purge remove evolution" and the "sudo apt-get install evolution", that atleast should work
[03:21] <dirtyomlet> yes, did it last night actually
[03:21] <dirtyomlet> hold on, i still have the exact instructions i used
[03:21] <dirtyomlet> used the fwcutter and yanked the windows firmware
[03:21] <CVirus> dirtyomlet: please find them ... I've been trying to get it working for a month now
[03:21] <CVirus> dirtyomlet: is it a laptop ?
[03:21] <dirtyomlet> yes
[03:21] <dirtyomlet> my dell inspiron 1300
[03:22] <CVirus> dirtyomlet: you used ndiswrapper or the kernel module ?
[03:22] <dirtyomlet> kernel module
[03:22] <ZeiP_> Do my rows ever make it to the channel?
[03:22] <CVirus> dirtyomlet: what kernel version ?
[03:22] <dirtyomlet> apt-get fwcutter, use the program on the windows driver...restarted, and BAM
[03:22] <dirtyomlet> it worked
[03:22] <dirtyomlet> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[03:22] <dirtyomlet> there it is man
[03:22] <kidbuntu> how can i let XINE play DVD's
[03:22] <kidbuntu> how can i let XINE play DVD's?
[03:23] <armoured_bear> hey all
[03:23] <ra21vi> what is the command to config X
[03:23] <dirtyomlet> if it doesn't work on the first try, try the alternative drivers he lists, i ended up having to use a driver that did NOT come with my notebook
[03:23] <proj> never mind. a little debuggin did wonders (strange that eh? :)  )
[03:23] <oskude> ra21vi: sudo dpkg-reconfire xserver-xorg
[03:23] <oskude> ra21vi: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:24] <catalytic> can anyone suggest a good partition formatting app?
[03:24] <ra21vi> oskude: kool, u r my torch to in the night dear
[03:24] <ra21vi> ;)
[03:24] <oskude> catalytic: mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdax ? what format do you need ?
[03:24] <CVirus> dirtyomlet: is this the driver you've used R115321.EXE ?
[03:25] <dirtyomlet> no
[03:25] <dirtyomlet> hold on, i'll show you exactly
[03:25] <oskude> catalytic: type mkfs.[2 times tab]  and youll see all available formats
[03:25] <dirtyomlet> its a bcmwl5.sys, but its one he gives you a link to
[03:25] <dirtyomlet> http://sidulus.textdrive.com/bcmwl5sys.zip
[03:26] <dirtyomlet> there, that's the exact one i used
[03:26] <kidbuntu> how can i let XINE play DVD's?
[03:26] <dirtyomlet> gxine
[03:26] <sykes^> How come I cant aktivate a partition after I format it to ext3 in "Disks"?
[03:26] <armoured_bear> sorry to bother you guys but can I PM somebody about having a problem with Ubuntu crashing on me when im using programs like FireFox and the Rhythm Box?
[03:26] <oskude> !dvd > kidbuntu
[03:26] <sykes^> activate
[03:26] <catalytic> what format is the standard ubuntu install?
[03:27] <catalytic> i want a windows box to be able to read it as well
[03:27] <dirtyomlet> its an iso
[03:27] <armoured_bear> or is there a help channel for stuff like that?
[03:27] <oskude> sykes^: so, you want only ubuntu on hda ? is that a fresh install ? as i would suggest deleting all aprtitions... as it looks ver weird and has a windows extended partition...
[03:27] <dirtyomlet> windows can, ofcourse, read it
[03:27] <catalytic> ?
[03:28] <catalytic> this computer has no cd drive, no usb
[03:28] <oskude> catalytic: ext3 is "standard" under ubuntu, and there are allso drivers for windows to read write ext3
[03:28] <sykes^> oskude, ok I'lldo that, but I have fixed som resolution stuff in this installation, so ill have to ask for help again
[03:28] <Nintii|2> I can't access my NTFS partitions from normal windows/dos after I installed Ubuntu
[03:28] <catalytic> i stuck two files in c:/boot and hacked grubbed to boot from it
[03:28] <catalytic> then reinstalled it over the top
[03:28] <Nintii|2> they show up in Ubuntu, but I can't acess them
[03:28] <catalytic> ok
[03:28] <oskude> sykes^: you could format hdb1 first and backup your data and config files there
[03:28] <catalytic> and the hda
[03:28] <eucalre> hello
[03:28] <binfalse> hello
[03:28] <sykes^> It's hd3 I got the data on
[03:28] <armoured_bear> hey
[03:29] <catalytic> i need to find the hd number for the unformatted partition right?
[03:29] <sykes^> oskude, I mean hdb3
[03:29] <sykes^> oskude, a screw it, I can get new music if I need it
[03:29] <oskude> sykes^: the last info i have is only hdb1 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26299/
[03:29] <kidbuntu> oskude: do i have to install a plugin just to let it play DVD's after fresh install like other media players?
[03:29] <sykes^> oskude, rebooting now and gonna clean both hdds and make a clean install on hda
[03:29] <catalytic> whats the hda
[03:30] <sykes^> oskude, What size should I take on the swap?
[03:30] <eucalre> out of interest
[03:30] <binfalse> no
[03:30] <oskude> kidbuntu: i never played dvds on pc (why should i?) try here http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html
[03:30] <oskude> sykes^: never more than 1gb
[03:30] <sykes^> Ok
[03:30] <sykes^> bbl
[03:30] <BigChirv> catalytic, the 1st IDE device.
[03:30] <kidbuntu> oskude: cause i dont have DVD players. i watch dvds on my computer
[03:30] <catalytic> i have one ide
[03:30] <oskude> sykes^: i gotta go home in 30min, ill be maybe later on, or tomorrow
[03:30] <catalytic> with two partitions
[03:31] <ra21vi> oskude: ok tell me something more
[03:31] <catalytic> i need to format the second one
[03:31] <BigChirv> catalytic, then hda is the 1st and only ide device you have. :-)
[03:31] <catalytic> ok
[03:31] <oskude> kidbuntu: then continue to ask here, or read the docs ubotu send you
[03:31] <ra21vi> oskude: my xserver error reports to fail to load driver 810 and wacom
[03:31] <ra21vi> so what t do now
[03:31] <ra21vi> oskude: ^
[03:31] <catalytic> that command  mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda
[03:31] <BigChirv> catalytic, The partitions on the device are named hda1 hda2, etc
[03:31] <catalytic> is that going to start formatting straight away or will it give me some sort of dialog
[03:31] <catalytic> ah ok
[03:32] <catalytic> i go into dev/
[03:32] <oskude> ra21vi: do you have wacom tablet ? (i allso wonder why every dapper has that installed there, even when you dont have a wacom tablet)
[03:32] <wickedpuppy> !samba
[03:32] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:32] <POVaddct> catalytic: cat /proc/partitions
[03:32] <catalytic> and i can see hda, hda1, hda2, and hda5
[03:32] <ra21vi> oskude: no its not, i will commnet that code
[03:32] <ra21vi> oskude: but wat about the 810 driver.. which package has this one
[03:32] <catalytic> catalytic@nix:/dev$ cat proc/partitions
[03:32] <catalytic> cat: proc/partitions: No such file or directory
[03:32] <POVaddct> catalytic: then the second partition is probably hda5 (logical partition inside hda2)
[03:33] <oskude> ra21vi: xserver-xorg-driver-i810
[03:33] <light_> !SWAT
[03:33] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:33] <POVaddct> catalytic: cat /proc/partitions   (with a slash before proc)
[03:33] <ra21vi> oskude: ok
[03:33] <catalytic> so i should use mkfs.ext3 /dev/hd5
[03:33] <catalytic> then i should be able to mount that drive and start accessing it?
[03:33] <boink> !tell boink about swat
[03:33] <BigChirv> catalytic, I think you need to read a little bit before start messing with your systems, man
[03:33] <oskude> catalytic: /dev/hd5 wont propably exist...
[03:34] <catalytic> nope it doesnt
[03:34] <BigChirv> catalytic, Go to http://www.tldp.org/ and find some manuals for you
[03:34] <ra21vi> oskude: is there any driver for i915... i guess that every intel has this one only, but in Gentoo i can set my i915 too
[03:34] <catalytic> ok, can you point me in the right direction bigchirv
[03:34] <catalytic> ok
[03:34] <ra21vi> oskude: is that case with here
[03:34] <oskude> catalytic: do you know if its hda, hdb, hdc or so ?
[03:34] <ra21vi> catalytic: whats the problem buddy
[03:34] <oskude> ra21vi: i heard some bad words about i915 here ;)
[03:34] <catalytic> in /dev i have catalytic and i can see hda, hda1, hda2, and hda5
[03:35] <catalytic> when i installed ubuntu
[03:35] <oskude> catalytic: ok, then its /dev/hda5 what you looked for
[03:35] <catalytic> i thought it would be a good idea to make 2 partitions
[03:35] <catalytic> one for the os
[03:35] <light_> !ntfs
[03:35] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:35] <catalytic> other for data
[03:35] <light_> !fuse
[03:35] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:35] <catalytic> but i chose primary for the first one that ubuntu installed onto, and logical for the second one
[03:36] <ra21vi> oskude: like what
[03:36] <ra21vi> :)
[03:36] <catalytic> and i get
[03:36] <catalytic> catalytic@nix:/dev$ mkfs.ext3 /dev/hd5
[03:36] <catalytic> mke2fs 1.35 (28-Feb-2004)
[03:36] <catalytic> Could not stat /dev/hd5 --- No such file or directory
[03:36] <catalytic> The device apparently does not exist; did you specify it correctly?
[03:36] <spanglesontoast> how do I get samba to actually auth my user properly
[03:37] <oskude> ra21vi: it not working, and some problems with modelines... (i personally never had an intel gfx chip)
[03:37] <ra21vi> oskude: thanks dude, i solved my problem.. my X started
[03:37] <oskude> catalytic: you do see that its hda5 not hd5 ?
[03:37] <gambix> sualut
[03:37] <ra21vi> oskude: i wish if i cud give u a kiss
[03:37] <gambix> Au secour !
[03:37] <ra21vi> lol
[03:37] <ra21vi> noway
[03:37] <catalytic> er, oops
[03:37] <catalytic> cheers oskude
[03:37] <oskude> ra21vi: nice that it works!
[03:37] <catalytic> im a tard
[03:37] <gambix> peut po install mon linux sous
[03:38] <oskude> !fr ?
[03:38] <catalytic> says its already mounted
[03:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fr ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:38] <oskude> !fr
[03:38] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:38] <oskude> catalytic: oh, you cant format partitions that are mounted...
[03:38] <gambix> je ne peut pas instaler mein linux sur mkein laptop
[03:38] <ra21vi> oskude: so , thank u very much//// going off to do my work, and i willcome online and if i find u, :) thatw would b nie to see u again :)
[03:38] <ra21vi> oskude: bye
[03:38] <boink> gambix: nous ne parlons pas l'anglais ici
[03:38] <oskude> ra21vi: bb, hf
[03:38] <catalytic> ok,
[03:38] <gambix> lol
[03:38] <boink> !tell gambix about fr
[03:39] <catalytic> so its an unformatted partition
[03:39] <catalytic> that has somehow been auto mounted?
[03:39] <oskude> catalytic: it cant be unformatted if its mounted...
[03:39] <gambix> na mais je parle le franais non ?
[03:39] <catalytic> im still stuck in windows/mac world
[03:39] <oskude> !fr > gambix
[03:39] <catalytic> use to seeing c: d:
[03:39] <gambix> argh
[03:39] <gambix> lol
[03:39] <gambix> sorry
[03:39] <oskude> gambix: this is english channel...
[03:39] <nash_> alguien que hable en espaol??
[03:40] <jrib> !ese
[03:40] <boink> !tell nash_ about es
[03:40] <jrib> !es
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <catalytic> im not sure if i can save to my second partition yet
[03:40] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:40] <dxdemetriou> Is there a program for remote control pc that is behind a router? I can't change settings from my router. The only worked is logmein, that the program runs and I can connect from site, it find the pc from the program running, but is only for windows
[03:40] <oskude> catalytic: ok, then start to think that c: d: and so on are "mount points" not partitions
[03:40] <catalytic> ok, like hda1 and hda 5
[03:40] <BigChirv> nash_, go to ubuntu-es
[03:40] <oskude> catalytic: no /dev/hda1 is partition
[03:41] <catalytic> ok
[03:41] <catalytic> ah, everything in mnt is mounted
[03:41] <catalytic> as a drive
[03:41] <catalytic> but my /mnt is empty
[03:42] <oskude> catalytic: you should not mount directyl to /mnt (do dirs in /mnt and mount to them)
[03:42] <catalytic> ok
[03:42] <catalytic> so i sohuld be able to mount a new drive/folder/whatever i want to call it in /mnt that will use the partition hda5
[03:43] <catalytic> if hda5 is formatted correctly?
[03:43] <oskude> catalytic: when i do "mount" i can see wahts mounted atm... like "/dev/hda2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)" says /dev/hda2 (partition/device) is mounted to dir /
[03:43] <oskude> catalytic: yes...
[03:44] <oskude> catalytic: gotta go home, sorry
[03:44] <catalytic> so i have
[03:44] <catalytic> /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[03:44] <catalytic> and
[03:44] <catalytic> /dev/hda5 on /home type ext3 (rw)
[03:44] <catalytic> ok
[03:44] <catalytic> dang
[03:44] <catalytic> thanks for ur help so far tho
[03:45] <oskude> catalytic: looks good /dev/hda5 (device/partition) is mounted in /home (dir) as format ext3... good luck, bb
[03:45] <BigChirv> catalytic, Don't forget to read a intro to Linux. :-) Look in http://www.tldp.org/
[03:45] <catalytic> hmmm what he just said, does that mean that the drive is already formatted
[03:45] <catalytic> ok
[03:47] <Alakazamz0r> hey, whats the site for adding repositories to sources.list?
[03:47] <UbuntuGuy> hey -- anyone else notice that Hans Reiser (of the reiser fs) has been arrested for murder?
[03:48] <fracus> suspicioun of murder...
[03:48] <MadDog011> reiser fs?
[03:49] <MadDog011> who did he kill?!
[03:49] <UbuntuGuy> fracus: a technicality and an irrelevant one.  You can't be charged with "suspicion", only for a real crime
[03:49] <fracus> Hey All:  I currently have a debian server for web, samba, ssh.  I want to rebuid my server on a different box, would it be better for ubuntu desktop or ubuntu server?  Is there much of a difference?
[03:50] <timhaughton> Here's the thing - every time I log in to my Ubuntu desktop, I'd like the same apps to launch on the same virtual desktop in the same place. Is there anyway to make Gnome 'remember' this?
[03:50] <beef> Fracture: if its just a web server ssh and samba box..server probably better, tis not a big install likedesktop
[03:50] <fracus> it is a headless system, so I won't be using a gui either
[03:50] <beef> server then
[03:50] <Samuli^> timhaughton, I think you can just simply save your session so it'll open it up exactly like that later.
[03:51] <timhaughton> Cool. I'll try that.
[03:51] <fracus> thanks  beef.  techinically is it just a differenet set of inital packages between the two?
[03:51] <Lane> I am in dire need of help, I am trying to finish installing apache and vsftpd on an ubuntu server remotely that does not have the ubuntu cd in it.
[03:52] <timhaughton> Samuli: How do I save my session?? :)
[03:52] <Lane> Everytime I try to apt-get these two it asks me to put in the cdrom.
[03:52] <Samuli^> timhaughton, I'm not on linux right now, so I can't really help. I just remember that you can do that at least in KDE.
[03:53] <Samuli^> timhaughton, other than that, there are programs with you can specify exactly where you want a certain window to open, so you could use that along with the session manager -> start-up programs but it takes work. :)
[03:54] <TheGateKeeper> Lane: have a look at /etc/sources.list
[03:54] <timhaughton> Samuli^: OK thanks, that's enough for me to do some research.
[03:54] <Nintii|2> some reason when I installed Ubuntu Dapper it messed up my other partitions.  Windows XP which is on a different partition won't work.  In fact it won't even recognize those partitions in dos/windows, now I just have one big C: there.  But when I go into Ubuntu it shows my other old partitions with all the data in them, but I can't access them
[03:54] <Lane> Thank You so much, TheGateKeeper.
[03:54] <Nintii|2> and I want to access them in dos/windows, not in Ubuntu
[03:54] <Lane> I have had a hell of a morning.
[03:54] <TheGateKeeper> Lane: np :-)
[03:54] <Nintii|2> I have had a hell of a night
[03:55] <xenoterracide> where is this OS setting my default editor to nano
[03:55] <Nintii|2> trying to figure this out..
[03:55] <xav> xenoterracide, how is this editor started?
[03:56] <xenoterracide> example crontab -e
[03:56] <xenoterracide> also with visudo
[03:56] <xenoterracide> until I overrode that one in /etc/sudoers
[03:56] <TheGateKeeper> Nintii|2: have a look on microsoft's site for fixmbr, I presume that is what your problem is
[03:56] <Nintii|2> I heard that is dangerous
[03:56] <Nintii|2> have you ever used it?
[03:57] <xenoterracide> xav I know it's set in rc.conf in gentoo but in ubuntu I have no Idea
[03:57] <TheGateKeeper> Nintii|2: you are using dual boot, problem is you can boot linux but not windows?
[03:58] <xav> xenoterracide, try sudo update-alternatives --config editor
[03:58] <Nintii|2> Yes
[03:58] <Lane> Thank you so much, TheGateKeeper. although for future refrence it was /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:58] <Nintii|2> my old partitions don't show up in the windows recovery console
[03:58] <Lane> But really you mad my morning.
[03:58] <Lane> made*
[03:59] <TheGateKeeper> sorry Lane I have a nasty habbit of forgetting that :-)
[03:59] <Nintii|2> but they are showing up here in Ubuntu, but of course I can't access them cause they are NTFS
[03:59] <xenoterracide> thx xav that's what I needed
[03:59] <elaff> someone here using xqf?
[03:59] <xav> xenoterracide, np, you remind me I had to edit that as well :)
[03:59] <TheGateKeeper> Nintii|2: ok first check /boot/grub/menu.lst is ok
[04:00] <xav> !anyone > elaff
[04:00] <nataraj_> if there's a cd inside the tray, while booting, the eject button near the cd-tray doesn't work. why is that
[04:00] <xenoterracide> yeah on kubuntu no one seemed to know what I was talking about earlier
[04:00] <xav> lol
[04:00] <nataraj_> it's ok otherwise
[04:00] <elaff> ok :P
[04:01] <TheGateKeeper> Nintii|2: you can access ntfs with ntfs-3g
[04:01] <elaff> all my games disaperaed from the list in xqf
[04:01] <elaff> i have apt-get remove xqf and installed it again
[04:01] <xav> actually, I never understood this neither
[04:02] <xav> sometimes, it listed all games, and other times, only the ones I had installed
[04:02] <_maney> ISO psycopg2 for dapper.  has anyone backported this already?
[04:02] <xav> elaff, but try removing ~/.xqf or something
[04:02] <Nintii|2> my windows XP install shows up on that grub list when starting up my computer, but when I try go to it it says that i'm missing some hal.dll file
[04:03] <xav> Nintii|2, I don't see how this could be related to ubuntu in any way
[04:03] <nataraj_> any ubuntu developers around here?
[04:03] <Nintii|2> oh it is
[04:03] <xav> nataraj_, probably not. why?
[04:03] <elaff> xav: where is ~/.xqf
[04:03] <raw-bin> Greets. Have been using dapper for a bit now. Was wondering if edgy eft is usable ?
[04:03] <root__> what was the command to see the programs using the network?
[04:03] <Nintii|2> it's not finding my NTFS partitions anymore in dos/windows
[04:03] <Nintii|2> only in Ubuntu
[04:03] <root__> netstat -p?
[04:04] <Nintii|2> this is right after I installed ubuntu dapper
[04:04] <nataraj_> just asked. I could have done with a short interview for inspiration. :)
[04:05] <root__> Nintii|2: whats going on? you cant see your windows drives from windows? only through ubuntu?
[04:05] <elaff> sure they are NTFS?
[04:05] <Nintii|2> yeah, I had 3 partitions NTFS before I installed ubuntu, now in windows it's just showing up as one huge C: one
[04:05] <Nintii|2> yes i'm positive
[04:06] <Nintii|2> I had windows xp running on one
[04:06] <Sipo> hi
[04:06] <Nintii|2> but all my old ones are showing up in Ubuntu
[04:06] <Nintii|2> how do I get ntfs-3g?
[04:07] <Nintii|2> is that something I can install from the universe list?
[04:07] <root__> wait... you had 3 windows partitions, one running windows, the others were logical... then you installed ubuntu on one of the partitions and now your windows only sees the drive as one big drive?
[04:07] <nataraj_> if you guys'll like it i'll post a link which shows how the boot-up time for linux can be nicely reduced using stripped down python scripts instead of bash scripts
[04:07] <xav> you don't need ntfs-3g. only for writing, but I'm not sure if it's safe
[04:07] <Nintii|2> yes, root__
[04:07] <xenoterracide> suggests adding ntfs read support
[04:08] <Nintii|2> how would I go about that?
[04:08] <simmerz> is the difference between ubuntu, xubuntu and kubuntu just the default installed DE?
[04:08] <Nintii|2> all I am worried about is being able to recover some of the files from those drives
[04:08] <xenoterracide> and copy data to either crappy fat32 for windows restore or ext3 for full migration to linux
[04:08] <root__> my guess is that when you installed ubuntu it deleted your partition table off the mbr when it was writing the grub...maybe it got stepped on or somehting
[04:09] <root__> Nintii|2: there is a wonderful little proggie for windows caled "ext2ifs"
[04:09] <Nintii|2> if I can get some of those files, burn them on a CD, i'm fine with reformatting everything and starting over, I jsut really need some of those files
[04:09] <xenoterracide> if support isn't in ubuntu kernel by default you would have to rebuild the kernel
[04:09] <malegria> hi, sorry if i bore you, but the url->firefox doesnt work in my xchat (i think the problem is mentioned pretty often but i couldn't find a solution). gnome-open is set to firefox. opening links by right clicking and selecting an url handler (!firefox -a firefox -remote 'openURL(%s,new-tab)') works. i set /set gui_url_mod 0 to be able to use left click but it still opens konqueror. ideas?
[04:09] <root__> it will allow your windows to access your linux drives...
[04:09] <Nintii|2> but I can't get into windows at all
[04:09] <root__> you cant write... but you can read/copy
[04:09] <Nintii|2> I want linux to access my ntfs drives
[04:09] <xenoterracide> if it was his partition table linux coudn't see it either
[04:09] <root__> ahh
[04:10] <root__> just map to them
[04:10] <xenoterracide> mount them
[04:10] <xav> malegria, try update-alternatives
[04:10] <Dimensions> hiiii
[04:10] <Nintii|2> sorry, i'm a noob with linux
[04:10] <root__> mount -t ntfs /path/to/drives /mount/point
[04:10] <xav> sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[04:10] <malegria> xav: i'll try
[04:11] <elaff> xav:  it could be solved in xqf by pressing Edit > Add default master servers
[04:11] <simmerz> is the difference between ubuntu, xubuntu and kubuntu just the default installed DE?
[04:11] <xav> elaff, ah ok
[04:11] <xenoterracide> yep simmerz
[04:11] <segfault_> simmerz, yes
[04:11] <xenoterracide> where's my fluxbuntu?
[04:12] <segfault_> ;)
[04:12] <root__> lol at your startup session :P
[04:12] <xav> yep
[04:12] <simmerz> xenoterracide: segfault_: so it makes absolutely no difference to the base install?
[04:12] <root__> too bad freenx dont supportr it
[04:12] <xav> just install fluxbox and you've fluxbuntu
[04:12] <xenoterracide> I know
[04:12] <xenoterracide> :P
[04:12] <malegria> xav: it says "sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser. | *+ 1 /usr/bin/konqueror | 2 /usr/bin/firefox | Press enter to keep the default[*] , or type selection number:" seems as if konqueror is default. why?
[04:12] <root__> i love just using that
[04:12] <root__> no icons and crap
[04:13] <xav> simmerz, no difference
[04:13] <xav> malegria, then choose firefox
[04:13] <malegria> sorry, starts with "Press enter to keep the default[*] , or type selection number:"
[04:13] <malegria> ok
[04:13] <segfault_> simmerz, nothing different but default de, and the uspash screen will reflect xubuntu/kubuntu/ubuntu by default
[04:13] <simmerz> segfault_: ok cool
[04:13] <xenoterracide> well simmerz I would say the difference is in packages. with ubuntu you have gnome gtk mainly
[04:13] <malegria> xav: great, that works. thanks a lot!
[04:13] <xenoterracide> kubuntu kde and qt
[04:13] <edgy> Hi, I installed edgy on a chroot in dapper but to work with edgy mysql I need to stop dapper mysql, how can I solve this?
[04:14] <atoponce> so, are the plans for iceweasel to replace firefox in edgy?
[04:14] <xenoterracide> xubuntu is light and uses xfce
[04:14] <JuCa_TruCa> hi
[04:14] <atoponce> i guess it depends on the debian testing branch, whether it's in there or not
[04:14] <JuCa_TruCa> hello
[04:14] <simmerz> xenoterracide: I'm thinking of installing kubuntu on and old almost broken laptop we use in the office as the music server. Just because amarok is leagues ahead of itunes
[04:14] <xenoterracide> I want to know what the hell kind of a name iceweasel is
[04:14] <atoponce> i love it
[04:14] <JuCa_TruCa> what is the best linux????
[04:14] <segfault_> edgy, u prolly need to chroot into ur edgy env, also if using mysql listening on a port make sure they r different
[04:14] <atoponce> i think it's great
[04:14] <tiredbones> I tried purging and reinstalling evolution so that I could get at the wizard for setting the properties. This does dot work.. It seems it still remimbers the pervious vales that I set, which where wrong. Does any know how to get at these values?
[04:14] <root__> im trying to get amarok on my wifes mac
[04:14] <root__> lol
[04:15] <root__> but it has no compiler :**(
[04:15] <Subhuman> xenoterracide, fire - ice . fox -weasel
[04:15] <root__> what am i to do
[04:15] <xav> JuCa_TruCa, there is only one linux
[04:15] <lnx> nice id
[04:15] <d0uglas> hey now.. Trying to get dual monitors going with an ati radeon mobility u1/igp 320m using xinerama, but no luck. Only clonemode. I'm under the impression that this still isn't possible with linux. anyone know if that's the case with these ati suckers?
[04:15] <xenoterracide> microsoft is weasely
[04:15] <JuCa_TruCa> ?
[04:15] <atoponce> i love the proposed logos on the ubuntu wiki too
[04:15] <Dimensions> hi i want to change the zooming of desktop how do i do it ... resolution is smaller and desktop is bigger
[04:15] <segfault_> tiredbones, to kill ur settings rm ~/.evolution
[04:15] <JuCa_TruCa> dont understand
[04:15] <JuCa_TruCa> ?
[04:15] <truz_`24> So whats the next best thing to reiserfs ?
[04:16] <truz_`24> :-)
[04:16] <atoponce> i just hope that firefox is out and iceweasel in
[04:16] <tiredbones> segfault, I tried that first. It still remembers the old values.
[04:16] <xav> truz_`24, there is no such thing
[04:16] <truz_`24> lol
[04:16] <xav> truz_`24, because reiserfs isn't the best
[04:16] <XenThraL> how do I go about setting my resolution to 1152 x 864 ?
[04:16] <xenoterracide> I just hope that mozilla's head shrinks
[04:17] <xenoterracide> because it has gotten to big
[04:17] <truz_`24> THen what is?
[04:17] <tiredbones> Is there an evolution channel?
[04:17] <XenThraL> (I'm using KDE)
[04:17] <simmerz> is it possible to attach an rdp server to X11 like you can with vnc?
[04:17] <d0uglas> is it possible to use dual monitors with an ati radeon igp 320m?
[04:17] <segfault_> XenThraL, edit xorg.conf
[04:17] <xav> truz_`24, I believe ext3 is better overall for a common usage
[04:17] <xenoterracide> you can remote x11 natively
[04:17] <xav> d0uglas, no idea, try google
[04:17] <XenThraL> thanks segfault_
[04:17] <host_> I use jfs
[04:18] <xenoterracide> ext* forever
[04:18] <atoponce> xenoterracide: yes, mozilla is trying to play god, and it isn't working
[04:18] <xav> if you have specific needs, an other fs might suit you better
[04:18] <Toma-> atoponce: whats the diff between iceweasel and firefox? looks identical to me...
[04:18] <xav> Toma-, they are
[04:18] <atoponce> Toma-: it's firefox, without the trademarked logo
[04:18] <host_> what's the fastest fs?
[04:18] <XenThraL> segfault_, where is it located? I forget :o
[04:18] <d0uglas> xav: google shows a bunch of forums with people saying they've tried everything with no luck, but they're old posts, maybe some breakthroughs have happened.. oh well, guess i'll just vnc into the machine to get two screens
[04:18] <xenoterracide> not god atoponce they are trying to be corporation instead of organization
[04:18] <xav> host_, there is no fastest fs
[04:19] <segfault_> XenThraL, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:19] <atoponce> xenoterracide: lol
[04:19] <xenoterracide> e.g. more like M$
[04:19] <XenThraL> ahh X11, thanks
[04:19] <atoponce> yeah
[04:19] <xav> host_, it depends on the usage
[04:19] <selinuxium_> hi all, I have a network printer on 192.168.0.90 that i can ping. But I can't print. any ideas?
[04:19] <xenoterracide> this all started when they became mozilla corportation
[04:19] <xenoterracide> and got mozilla.com
[04:19] <atoponce> Toma-: iceweasel is part of the gnuzilla sweet which is 100% free software, images and all
[04:19] <d0uglas> xav: any idea of something like framebuffer mode or fglrx might have something to do with it?
[04:19] <xenoterracide> they have forgotten their root
[04:20] <xav> xenoterracide, it didn't start when dfsg was created?
[04:20] <Toma-> *suite
[04:20] <atoponce> yeah
[04:20] <Toma-> ok then
[04:20] <xenoterracide> possibly
[04:20] <atoponce> s/sweet/suite/
[04:20] <Bedir> selamlar
[04:20] <xav> d0uglas, you could try with fglrx
[04:20] <LSD`> xenoterracide: so all iceweasle is is Debian cracking the sads with mozilla? lame.
[04:20] <atoponce> i promise i can type :-)
[04:20] <xav> d0uglas, oh no
[04:20] <Bedir> Trke bilen varm
[04:20] <xenoterracide> mozilla has multiple roots now
[04:20] <atoponce> LSD`: yeah. the've parted ways
[04:20] <xenoterracide> like M$
[04:20] <atoponce> i say good for debian
[04:20] <xenoterracide> makes them crappier
[04:20] <xav> d0uglas, it doesn't support your card
[04:20] <xenoterracide> yep
[04:20] <atoponce> good for gnu
[04:20] <Bedir> my webcam problem
[04:21] <d0uglas> xav: what doesn't, fglrx?
[04:21] <xav> d0uglas, right
[04:21] <d0uglas> opengl doesn't work
[04:21] <d0uglas> ok.. sigh.
[04:21] <xav> d0uglas, should work with dri
[04:21] <xav> d0uglas, with the ati/radeon open source driver
[04:21] <Subhuman> xenoterracide, why would they?
[04:21] <xenoterracide> why not?
[04:22] <[WC] > Hi, I want to install Xubuntu 6.10, but when it reach 94%, for the execution of "grub-update" it stop. Well, after a night, he was always at this stage, what I have to do?
[04:22] <d0uglas> xav: all right i'll start googling that.. thank you kindly.
[04:22] <xenoterracide> patches
[04:22] <xav> which patches?
[04:22] <Subhuman> umm, because iceweasel is just to sort out the whole copyright and distribtion issues.
[04:22] <Subhuman> the patches is just to make it a proper fork, nothing else.
[04:23] <xenoterracide> right copyright because they can't patch it and keep the name
[04:23] <xav> does gentoo patch firefox?
[04:23] <xenoterracide> don't think so
[04:23] <LSD`> the whole thing is lame
[04:23] <Subhuman> xenoterracide, no becuase they cant ship the FF logo
[04:23] <atoponce> mozilla doesn't take upstream, which is annoying
[04:23] <regx> hi
[04:23] <|daniel|> hey, my monitor and graphics card support higher resolutions than ubun
[04:23] <Subhuman> cuz its not modifyable, and everything in debian must be modifiable freely.
[04:23] <xenoterracide> sigh gentoo managed to get that compatability eventually
[04:23] <xav> Subhuman, we are talking about gentoo
[04:24] <xenoterracide> and now gentoo can distribute with logo
[04:24] <LSD`> Subhuman: lame
[04:24] <xenoterracide> but I'm not sure if we can patch
[04:24] <xenoterracide> more likely we could than debian
[04:24] <Subhuman> xenoterracide, yeah gentoo might allow non-free things to be included.
[04:24] <xenoterracide> because we don't distribute binaries
[04:24] <atoponce> gentoo doesn't hold to the same free principles that debian does
[04:25] <atoponce> it's not a big deal for gentoo to release firefox with the trademarked logo
[04:25] <LSD`> atoponce: which is a good thing
[04:25] <xav> 	# Apply our patches
[04:25] <xav> 	EPATCH_FORCE="yes" epatch "${WORKDIR}"/patch
[04:25] <atoponce> it is for debian, and should be for ubuntu
[04:25] <xenoterracide> yeah and it took 6 months for us to meet their trademark standards atoponce
[04:25] <xav> atoponce, it doesnt give them the right to patch it
[04:25] <xenoterracide> 6 months after 1.5 was released before we could label the program firefox
[04:26] <atoponce> xenoterracide: why? i guess i'm confused then
[04:26] <[WC] > Hi, I want to install Xubuntu 6.10, but when it reach 94%, for the execution of "grub-update" it stop. Well, after a night, he was always at this stage, what I have to do?
[04:26] <xenoterracide> because our binaries weren't working exactly like theirs
[04:26] <xenoterracide> I'm not sure ask jory pratt if you can find him
[04:26] <xenoterracide> he was the maintainer at the time
[04:27] <xenoterracide> but you can't modify the firefox binary in almost any way including patches and keep the trademark
[04:27] <atoponce> i just hope that ubuntu replaces firefox with iceweasel when the package hits the debian testing branch
[04:27] <Stigi`> If anyone have experience with setting up Quake 2 for Wine, please msg me ;)
[04:27] <frogzoo> [WC] : verfied the cd ?checked the md5 ?
[04:27] <xenoterracide> can't quake 2 be run natively?
[04:27] <sherirao> :)
[04:28] <[WC] > Hum no? maybe reburn the cd??
[04:28] <LSD`> Stigi`: it's been ported, you shouldn't need wine anymore
[04:28] <frogzoo> [WC] : yup, with a verify & @ 50% max speed
[04:28] <Stigi`> Okay, but the problem is that I dont have the CD anymore :\
[04:28] <sherirao> what is ubuntu linux?
[04:28] <Stigi`> All I have is the setup folder from Windows
[04:28] <stefg> [WC] : you don't have many options on what to do next, have you? Switch the box off, check the CD for defects, check if your partition table is correct and either reinstall or try if just installing grub already gives you a working system
[04:28] <regx> any one here about hans reiser???
[04:28] <dfgas> what do i have to install to see my email in console  (local mail)
[04:28] <xenoterracide> yah
[04:29] <regx> isnt that crappy
[04:29] <regx> :(
[04:29] <frogzoo> regx: sort of, his wife went missing
[04:29] <regx> sigh
[04:29] <regx> sucks
[04:29] <regx> i do too
[04:29] <frogzoo> regx: any further update?
[04:29] <segfault_> dfgas, mutt or mail (ithink the pkg is mailx for mail)
[04:29] <[WC] > Ok, to check if my partition table is correct, how do I do this, I don't remember hehe
[04:29] <dfgas> port 110 and 25 for email? pop3 and smtp?
[04:29] <xav> xenoterracide, no offense, but using gentoo for a server seems stupid
[04:29] <stefg> !offtopic > xenoterracide
[04:29] <regx> frogzoo, i know he's officially arrested on "circumstantial evidence" :(
[04:29] <stefg> !offtopic > LSD`
[04:29] <xenoterracide> bagh
[04:29] <cute_bettong> can someone help me with my nvidia problem? ill go into depth if you need me too
[04:30] <sherirao> ;)
[04:30] <Stigi`> LSD`, how does it work then? I download some kind if patch ?
[04:30] <xenoterracide> none taken xav
[04:30] <zzyber> does anyone know of any unlock gsm software for linux/ubuntu?
[04:30] <LSD`> !stfu > stefg
[04:30] <frogzoo> regx: damn - people were saying they'd never pin it on the guy that designed atomic commits for reiserfs
[04:30] <segfault_> cute_bettong, ask with detail someone here will ikely be able to help
[04:30] <[WC] > stefg: Ok, to check if my partition table is correct, how do I do this, I don't remember hehe
[04:30] <LSD`> Stigi`: if there's no native binaries you can [probably get a hold of the source, try icculus.org
[04:31] <regx> frogzoo, im sad :( that really sucks
[04:31] <Stigi`> thanks LSD`
[04:31] <LSD`> Stigi`: I know iD did release the source to it a few years back
[04:31] <stefg> [WC] : sudo fdisk -l for a very brief check
[04:31] <regx> frogzoo, i was really looking forward to new reiserFS's
[04:31] <LSD`> Stigi`: try an apt-cache search quake2 first
[04:31] <[WC] > ok
[04:31] <xenoterracide> wonders if reiser4 will ever make it into the kernel now
[04:32] <[WC] > thanks
[04:32] <sherirao> is it possible in GAIM that i directly create an account on IRC then i dont have to use a command to /join #ubuntu
[04:32] <regx> xenoterracide, i bet even if he is inocent .. it wont
[04:32] <xenoterracide> is it a bad idea to script an apt-get upgrade into a cron job?
[04:32] <cute_bettong> ok i have an  VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500]  (rev a1) agp card it has 256mb of ram on it i play a game called second life but the game only picks up 128mb max i was told that xorg had something to do with this glitch......i want to do 2 things figure out how much memory x has access to on the card.....and if it's not 256 then make it that way......can anyone help?
[04:32] <regx> xenoterracide, yes.
[04:32] <sherirao> is it possible in GAIM that i directly create an account on IRC then i dont have to use a command to /join #ubuntu
[04:32] <XenThraL> segfault_, I went and changed the file but it didn't change anything in the display options
[04:32] <xenoterracide> figures
[04:32] <sherirao> tell me baby-steps
[04:32] <regx> xenoterracide, i dont trust ubuntu updates. since everytime i update.. it breaks my box
[04:33] <xav> xenoterracide, , possibly, in case it goes wrong
[04:33] <Stigi`> LSD`, I got a package there called quake2-data, installer for quake 2 data files it says, that sounds great, will give it a shot then, thanks a bunch :)
[04:33] <xenoterracide> really
[04:33] <segfault_> XenThraL, u need to restart x first before those changes will take effect
[04:33] <xenoterracide> everytime?
[04:33] <xenoterracide> huh
[04:33] <xav> it shouldn't break often though
[04:33] <xenoterracide> glad I don't run ubuntu ;-)
[04:33] <xav> on dapper
[04:33] <XenThraL> oh, I half-assed and just ended the session
[04:33] <regx> xenoterracide, well not EVERYtime. but alot.. enough that i dont update for at least 1 month at a time
[04:33] <XenThraL> :p
[04:33] <sherirao> u run edubuntu ?
[04:33] <LSD`> Stigi`: you'll probably need a quake2 cd or at the very least, a copy of the shareware version foir that to work don't forget ;)
[04:33] <regx> i wanted to go with ARCH Linux but they have some screwy install issues.
[04:34] <LSD`> cute_bettong: try finding the video ram option in xorg.conf, uncommenting it and setting it to the correct amount of vram for your card
[04:34] <sherirao> shareware is not free-software
[04:34] <xav> regx, are you using dapper?
[04:34] <zzyber> I like to raise a question here: Why should anyone want to buy a macintosh today except for the design. As i understand macintosh has released their os for intel and their hardware also is based on intel with higher performance. I myself wanted a mac and sat down to think.........why shall i buy a mac? I love the design but if i buy a laptop from for example DELL and then install Ubuntu i think i will get the same funktions and even better prefor
[04:34] <cute_bettong> ok thank you LSD i will try that
[04:34] <Stigi`> LSD`, that I found out ;) Think I'll manage now, will get back to you if I dont, if thats okay with you?
[04:34] <xenoterracide> speaking of which
[04:35] <xenoterracide> does anyone have any idea why kubuntu won't let my user login in the gui
[04:35] <segfault_> cute_bettong, there is an option in xorg.conf for video mem its an Option directive to the device section for ur gfx card, I forget the exact syntax, try starting there
[04:35] <xenoterracide> it tells me some .kde..... is missing
[04:36] <cute_bettong> segfault_, VideoRam	262144 is this it?
[04:36] <xenoterracide> I've never run kde as the user that I'm aware of
[04:36] <regx> xenoterracide, can any other users login?
[04:36] <xenoterracide> yeah the one created at system install
[04:36] <cute_bettong> thats what i put in there when i did a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:36] <xenoterracide> hers
[04:36] <xav> xenoterracide, you could try removing it since there is no data there
[04:36] <segfault_> cute_bettong, again i forget the exact directive, but that sounds right
[04:36] <regx> xenoterracide, then re create your broked account
[04:36] <xenoterracide> and I can log in remotely
[04:36] <snoops> zzyber.. it really depends.. there's some ace software for mac..and that's what it comes down to..the software which runs on the os
[04:36] <cute_bettong> ok yea segfault_ i did that already but the game i use dosen't detect the proper amount of memory
[04:37] <LSD`> cute_bettong: yep, then umber looks right for 256mb, just make sure its uncommented (no # at the start of the line)
[04:37] <cute_bettong> ok
[04:37] <segfault_> cute_bettong, have u restarted x since u changed it?
[04:37] <xenoterracide> trust me my home folder isn't empty
[04:37] <xenoterracide> I've just been remoting
[04:37] <regx> xenoterracide, just recreate the account and move your personal data back over
[04:38] <regx> xenoterracide, what is the exact error?
[04:38] <xenoterracide> one moment
[04:38] <regx> 1
[04:38] <cute_bettong> ok i knoticed that other entrys have a " at the start and end of the value.....the amount of vram did not....is that ok?
[04:38] <Yokalosh> i have a strange problem when i try to install which is that it hangs at mounting root file system
[04:38] <cute_bettong> i changed it to look like VideoRam	"262144"
[04:38] <Yokalosh> i tried 3 different images too
[04:39] <xenoterracide> hmm.... I fixed it
[04:39] <regx> yay
[04:39] <regx> lol
[04:40] <Yokalosh> i've tried 6.06  amd64, kubuntu 6.06  amd64 and ubuntu 6.06  i386
[04:40] <Yokalosh> and they all get the same problem of not getting past 'mounting root filesystem'
[04:40] <xenoterracide> had a .kde folder
[04:40] <xenoterracide> so I deleted it
[04:40] <regx> ugh!!!!  Photoshop Cs2 on ubuntu. hotttttt
[04:41] <xenoterracide> bagh
[04:41] <stefg> Yokalosh: have you tried omitting the 'quiet splash' parameters at boot?
[04:41] <cute_bettong> and is there a way for ubuntu to tell you how much vram it's got access to...to verify that its useing 256mb of vram?
[04:41] <Yokalosh> stefg no o_o should i?
[04:41] <stefg> yes
[04:41] <Yokalosh> stefg: ok i'll give it a go
[04:42] <quiet> oh noes! don't omit quiet!
[04:42] <Yokalosh> cheers
[04:42] <quiet> ;)
[04:42] <martoss> hi there
[04:42] <struggler> hi all
[04:43] <martoss> i have a rsync querstion:
[04:43] <martoss>  rsync -rvvn --exclude="*.*" --include="*.dat" data/ dats/
[04:43] <jbaloul> hi all
[04:43] <martoss> why is it not copying all .dat files from data to dats
[04:43] <cute_bettong> so anyone know of a command that will spit out the amount of videoram? that the x has access to?
[04:43] <kotixsoftlib> hay personas de venezuela aqui
[04:43] <jbaloul> has webmin been removed from the repos?
[04:43] <stefg> !es
[04:43] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:46] <jbaloul> anyone? webmin? where has the beuty gone?
[04:47] <vortexoptics> where can I find the c header files that match my running kernel to compile vmware tools?
[04:47] <vortexoptics> anyone? :)
[04:48] <quiet> vortexoptics, use this: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server
[04:49] <quiet> vortexoptics, but to answer your question...  linux-header-`uname -r`
[04:49] <quiet> headers*
[04:49] <vortexoptics> thanks
[04:49] <truiu> vortexoptics: apt-get install linux-kernel-headers
[04:49] <regx> dude. i hate oompa loompas
[04:49] <jbaloul> vortexoptics: http://howtoforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=55
[04:50] <sjust1216> has anyone used ketouch
[04:51] <sproingie> what the ... more apt mirrors down?
[04:52] <Yokalosh> dfgas: hmmmm it stops at [69.420870]  ohci_hcd 0000:00:0b.0: OHCI Host Controller
[04:53] <ifrozen> hi
[04:53] <wilcox> hi
[04:53] <fangorious> i have a headless machine I remote connect to, and would like to be able to set grub to use a particular kernel as a one-time default (so I can reboot to windows, and then a subsequent reboot will put me back in linux)
[04:53] <Xaitan> is there any one in here that knows where I can get drivers for a Dell Wireless1450 USB NIC?
[04:54] <sproingie> fangorious: man grub.  oh wait, it's one of those "screw you, read the nonexistent info page" GNU-compliant manpages
[04:55] <fangorious> sproingie: guess I'll have to learn how to navigate info pages
[04:56] <sproingie> good luck, since info grub turns up the manpage
[04:57] <sproingie> i should start a "de-info-cation" project for ubuntu
[04:57] <jrib> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html is your best bet
[04:57] <LSD`> but info pages are the GNU standard!!111!1oneoneone
[04:58] <Yokalosh> my ubuntu installation stops at 'mounting root file system' ([69.420870]  ohci_hcd 0000:00:0b.0: OHCI Host Controller)]  i don't know why
[04:58] <xenoterracide> oh right another anoyance......
[04:59] <Yokalosh> any ideas?
[04:59] <stefg> !wifi
[04:59] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:59] <xenoterracide> how do I get ubuntu to not lookup a hostname when doing sudo
[04:59] <xenoterracide> if I loose network I can's sudo
[04:59] <xenoterracide> and I can't get network back without sudo
[04:59] <SpComb> now that sounds a bit weird, sudo shouldn't need network access
[05:00] <Overand> i've heard of that issue before
[05:00] <jrib> xenoterracide: there's some option your can put in /etc/sudoers .  I can't remember it offhand, but man sudo
[05:00] <Overand> throwing hostname errors
[05:00] <Overand> on 'sudo'
[05:00] <Overand> i don't remember the cause
[05:00] <xenoterracide> heah
[05:00] <Yokalosh> stefg: do you have any ideas? you told me to take off the splash and i did and i can see it stops at '[69.420870]  ohci_hcd 0000:00:0b.0: OHCI Host Controller' but now i don't know what to do
[05:00] <SpComb> perhaps it's related to the auth logs
[05:00] <sproingie> man sudoers
[05:00] <sproingie> now THAT is a useful man page
[05:00] <jrib> yeah that's what I mean :)
[05:00] <stefg> Yokalosh: I had nothing but trouble with the stock dapper-kernel, too. In my case i had a 30 sec. break at boot-time when using usplash... I build my own kernel and problems were gone...
[05:01] <xenoterracide> yeah it is but whatever it is I didn't do it
[05:01] <sproingie> "useful man page"
[05:01] <sproingie> nevermind
[05:01] <wilcox> :P
[05:01] <Overand> wilcox: wrong channel?
[05:01] <BiSk-8> hello, how do i transfer a file from a folder to a hdd attached by USB?
[05:01] <Yggio> Symbolic link = ln -s from to ? correct ?
[05:01] <wilcox> Overand: no..
[05:02] <Yokalosh> stefg: how can i do that from windows?
[05:02] <stefg> Yokalosh: you can't ...
[05:02] <Yokalosh> damn ;)
[05:02] <jrib> Yggio: TARGET NAME
[05:02] <Overand> well- i don't thnk it's appropriate, personally.
[05:03] <Yggio> jrib -> ln -s source/file/here target/file/here ? Correct ?
[05:03] <Yokalosh> stefg: maybe i should get an old ubuntu and then upgrade?
[05:03] <MaKaTiGuY> how can i transfer my mounted drive to a different location
[05:03] <stefg> Yokalosh: i'd guess there's irq-conflicts which can be solved by weird boot-parameters... let me see if i can find documentation on that
[05:03] <Yggio> MaKaTiGuY mount [option]  [device]  [mount-point] 
[05:03] <jrib> Yggio: ln -s /bin/foo /bin/bar   will create the symbolic link named /bin/bar that points to /bin/foo
[05:03] <Yokalosh> stefg: thanks
[05:04] <Yggio> jrib oh, so it'll be " ln -s target/file/here source/file/here ?
[05:04] <vlt> Hello. Are there deb packages available for hplip 0.98 somewhere?
[05:04] <Yggio> "
[05:04] <Yggio> vlt what package is it available in?
[05:04] <jrib> Yggio: yes, where target is the target of the symbolic link named source
[05:05] <vlt> Yggio: hplip
[05:05] <Yggio> vlt I know .. What is it available in? .tar.gz , .tar.bz2 , .rpm , .zip . 7z ?
[05:06] <stefg> Yokalosh: if it's not a laptop you could try 'noapic nolapic' or 'acpi=off'. If it changes something it would be interesting. BTW what Motherboard do you have?
[05:06] <Yggio> jrib oh, so it'll be " ln -s target/file/here source/file/here " ?
[05:06] <Yokalosh> stefg: asus k8n-vm
[05:06] <jrib> Yggio: yes
[05:07] <grogoreo> can Linux use Mac version fonts, .ps?
[05:08] <vlt> Yggio: Aah, sorry. There's a tar.gz file available on sf.net and a *.run file (which has been downloaded twicw as much as the tgz).
[05:09] <vlt> s/twicw/twice
[05:09] <stefg> Yokalosh: are you running it with the 64-bit version? Try the 32 bit version then
[05:09] <Yokalosh> stefg: i have tried both
[05:10] <hailong> ?
[05:10] <Yokalosh> stefg: i'll try your first suggestion =]  brb
[05:11] <ajtraynor> hey lads, i need help, my old ubuntu went all over the place with a core file been dumped, so im installing again, WHAT DO I DO TO INSTALL ON A SEPERATE PARTITION ALREADY AND HAVE WINDOWS XP AS A DEFAULT BOOT OS
[05:11] <ajtraynor> I WANT TO KEEP WINDOWS, AS DEFAULT WHEN I TURN ON MY COMPUTER, 10 SEC CHOICE MENU
[05:12] <ajtraynor> ??
[05:12] <boink> DO YOU NEED TO USE CAPS?
[05:12] <bubblenut> Hi what's the name of the package which allows me to manage applications I've compiled from source via apt?
[05:12] <ajtraynor> sorry
[05:12] <ajtraynor> can anyone help
[05:12] <cute_bettong> !xgl
[05:12] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:13] <sproingie> ajtraynor: make the windows entry the default, and remove any "savedefault" lines in menu.lst
[05:13] <vlt> ajtraynor, Edit /boot/grub/menu.list and change "default=0" to your windows entry
[05:13] <covOPprometheus> I installed ubuntu breezy on a new laptop, but x wont start up nor can I configure the ethernet-card. can someone help to configure one of them?
[05:13] <sproingie> or keep default=0 and move windows to the top.  usually where you want your default anyway
[05:13] <ajtraynor> vlt, i dont know how to do that?
[05:14] <sproingie> ajtraynor: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst.  it's just a text file
[05:14] <ajtraynor> and what do i type in
[05:14] <Unimatrix9> hi there
[05:14] <ajtraynor> default =0
[05:14] <Unimatrix9> any one here expert on wireless?
[05:14] <sproingie> ajtraynor: what we said.  delete all the lines that say "savedefault" and move the windows entry (which is at the bottom) to the top
[05:14] <ajtraynor> ah right cool
[05:15] <ajtraynor> i get that through gnome
[05:15] <sproingie> ajtraynor: the "top" meaning before the line that says BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST anyway
[05:16] <ajtraynor> thanks, whats a god tutorial to get very fimilar with ubuntu
[05:16] <ajtraynor> im very new to it
[05:16] <prime> has joined
[05:17] <prime> anyone who could help installing software with a tar.gaz?
[05:17] <sproingie> ajtraynor: how much linux/unix do you know?
[05:17] <prime> im a nbewby
[05:17] <xamox> It says my apache server is running as "data-www" but my /var/www/ directory permissions are owned by root, when I try to upload to /var/www/files/ (from web interface via PHP)  it says I don't have permissions to that directory, do I need to change ownership to "data-www" to get this to work?
[05:18] <prime> im a newbie
[05:18] <Lane> Anyone know what channel to ask about fortifying the security on my ubuntue server?
[05:18] <snowblink> !make
[05:18] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:19] <drezha> hi
[05:19] <me_> hola
[05:19] <drezha> has anyone else suffered random blackouts on Ubuntu recently?
[05:19] <prime> i have a software with a tar.gaz...how to make it work?
[05:19] <RubyOnFails> blackout, ubuntu ? no way!
[05:20] <me_> hola
[05:20] <RubyOnFails> prime, extract it to somewhere and, seek a read me file
[05:20] <funkja> Why would not all the screen resolutions that I have in my xorg.conf not appear in the screen resolution preference in gnome?
[05:20] <prime> i,ve done that...then?
[05:20] <Yokalosh> stefg: no luck :(
[05:20] <RubyOnFails> prime, try to find a read me file, about installation
[05:21] <covOPprometheus> I installed ubuntu breezy on a new laptop, but x wont start up nor can I configure the ethernet-card. can someone help to configure one of them?
[05:21] <drezha> yeah...screen goes dead, and acts like Ubuntu's not sending it data anymore
[05:21] <Unimatrix9> any wireless experts here?
[05:21] <me_> hola ana
[05:21] <drezha> pushing key's doesn't work
[05:21] <me_> holas alguien?
[05:21] <me_> hi....
[05:21] <prime> actually im planning to use gscore... do u know how to...it seems hard to follow the read me file
[05:21] <RubyOnFails> prime, there are 3 possiblities for installing a program.  First compiling the source code, 2nd running an installer, 3rd installing via package manager. Try to find which one suits your program
[05:21] <drezha> is it possible the nVidia drivers? and if so how can I remove them?
[05:22] <RubyOnFails> prime, just read the file. it would be more helpful than anyone in this channel
[05:22] <ana> me_, para preguntar en castellano, #ubuntu-es
[05:22] <Unimatrix9> covOPprometheus ; does the live cd give an working x?
[05:23] <RubyOnFails> Unimatrix9, yes
[05:23] <RubyOnFails> Unimatrix9, even you can surf with firefox
[05:23] <Unimatrix9> i dont use firefox...
[05:23] <RubyOnFails> Unimatrix9, what do you use ?
[05:23] <Unimatrix9> flock
[05:23] <prime> it says there 'configure' shell script... shall i click on it?
[05:23] <Unimatrix9> and swiftfox
[05:24] <RubyOnFails> Unimatrix9, it is highly a firefox clone
[05:24] <black_13> how similare is to ubuntu do debian sarge?
[05:24] <RubyOnFails> prime, no, this means that you have the source code. Then you have todo the following
[05:24] <covOPprometheus> Unimatrix9, nope, that's the prob, I have just installed it with no working result
[05:24] <Unimatrix9> actually i was looking for an wireless expert here..
[05:24] <Yggio> To make a filesystem, you type mkfs, but what is mke2fs ?
[05:24] <RubyOnFails> prime, ./configure , then make, then make install, or sudo make install
[05:25] <RubyOnFails> prime, consult the read me file please
[05:25] <prime> as in the source list..is that what u mean...sorry im newby
[05:25] <Unimatrix9> covOPprometheus ; i mean if you startup the live cd, you get the same results?
[05:25] <Unimatrix9> no x?
[05:25] <RubyOnFails> prime, you have to do it from the console
[05:25] <RubyOnFails> prime, I don't get what do you mean by source list
[05:25] <covOPprometheus> Unimatrix9, aah, nope, I don't have the live cd here, so I never tried
[05:25] <puff> I did a dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy, overnight.
[05:26] <cyberhell86> can somebody tell me where i can download a software to play dvd, divx and mp3 on ubuntu?? :S
[05:26] <puff> Do I need to reboot now, or can I now upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[05:26] <RubyOnFails> prime, open up a terminal and change to the relevant directory then ./configure , make and make install
[05:26] <Yggio> cyberhell86 type -> sudo apt-cache search dvd .. you'll get alot of it! Choose one.
[05:26] <lemsx1> !xgl
[05:26] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:26] <puff> And is anybody familiar with using an ipod under ubuntu?  I just bought a nano and I'm trying to get it to work.
[05:26] <hollaback83> how do you turn cookies on
[05:26] <Unimatrix9> covOPprometheus ; you could try to edit your xorg.conf from the shell
[05:26] <drezha> to remove nVida drivers do I sudo nvidia-glx-config disable
[05:26] <drezha> then sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common?
[05:27] <berent> holloback : go to ur browser settings
[05:27] <spanglesontoast> where can I get chkconfig command ?
[05:27] <cyberhell86> apt-cache search dvd
[05:27] <covOPprometheus> Unimatrix9, I've opened it, but I'm not quiet sure what to put in. can you assist?
[05:28] <puff> hello?
[05:28] <puff> Okay, I guess I'll just reboot anyway, on principle.
[05:28] <berent> puff : restart ur system
[05:28] <prime> i run configure then... error:library requirements (glib-2.0 >= 2.6.0) not met.... does this means ... ineede to download the said library?
[05:28] <Unimatrix9> covOPprometheus ; make an backup first
[05:28] <Unimatrix9> covOPprometheus ; sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[05:29] <cyberhell86> apt-cache search dvd
[05:30] <puff> berent: thanks.
[05:30] <Unimatrix9> covOPprometheus ; what kind of video card is on your labtop?
[05:30] <Lilandra> hi! what's ubuntu-standard for?
[05:30] <eucalre> you tell me ;)
[05:30] <covOPprometheus> Unimatrix9, ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 256MB GDDR3
[05:30] <sasalli> hi,  made some setting on ubuntu. than x config has gone. so , how can i reset X ?
[05:31] <four> hello
[05:31] <Yggio> sasalli did you backup your old xorg ?
[05:31] <Yggio> .conf
[05:31] <sasalli> hmm
[05:31] <sasalli> i can't remember
[05:31] <sasalli> maybe
[05:31] <sasalli> if it is ?_
[05:31] <four> i was wondering if there is a way i can use my shared media from my windows pc with ubuntu without copying or convrting?
[05:32] <dade`> who uses ubuntu on a macbook ?
[05:32] <hollaback83> were are the browser setting
[05:32] <Yggio> dade` you can use , but I haven;t seen one that uses macbook *yet*
[05:32] <Unimatrix9> covOPprometheus ; does it say Section "Device"
[05:32] <Unimatrix9> Identifier "ATI"
[05:32] <Unimatrix9> Driver "fglrx"
[05:33] <Yggio> !fsck
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <brush01uk> Greetings Everyone   Have agood  day
[05:33] <tiredbones> I can not beleave how hard it is to change the the properties for evolution.
[05:33] <segfault_> four, is ur media on a diff  pc than ubuntu is?
[05:33] <four> yes seg it is
[05:33] <four> i can see it and access it on the network
[05:34] <four> but i cant play the media
[05:34] <drezha> I mentioned about the blackouts... I now have a file called hs_err_pid6621.log in my home folder
[05:34] <four> withot copying first
[05:34] <drezha> is this a error log?
[05:34] <tiredbones> I can't find anything on google.
[05:34] <drezha> four I had that troouble
[05:34] <atroWork> Where's the Xsetup file in ubuntu? I'm trying to connect as a synergy client before I log in, so that I *can* log in
[05:34] <drezha> you have to use a mount command not just use the Place > connect to server option
[05:34] <segfault_> four, mount the network drive with samba and then play the media as if it were local to ur ubuntu machine
[05:35] <covOPprometheus> Unimatrix9, Identifier "Ati..." Driver "ati" BusID "PCI:6:0:0"
[05:35] <Unimatrix9> any one knows an solution to connect to available wireless networks?
[05:35] <four> ok but if i mont it(had this trouble before) cant i NOT use it on my pc after that?
[05:35] <puff> How do I figure out which /dev/sdfoo a given usb device is mounted as by automount?
[05:35] <puff> Unimatrix9: iwconfig?
[05:36] <segfault_> four, i dont see why that would be the case
[05:36] <atroWork> four, nope, you can use it on your PC just fine.
[05:36] <hollaback83> where are the browser settings located
[05:36] <brush01uk> Any advice please on installing 2nd hard drive ?    ( new user to linux over the last few weeks )
[05:36] <segfault_> hollaback83, what settings?
[05:36] <four> so mount with samba and i sould be good? kk thanks ill try it
[05:36] <covOPprometheus> Unimatrix9, should I change it to fglrx?
[05:36] <Unimatrix9> does iwconfig show all wireless networks in the erea?
[05:36] <drezha> four, heres the command I use
[05:36] <hollaback83> browser
[05:36] <drezha>  sudo mount -t smbfs //Serenity/Folding /home/chris/LaptopFAH
[05:36] <prime> anyone here who uses the Gscore?
[05:36] <atroWork> four, if you apt-get smbfs you can add it to /etc/fstab so that it auto mounts on boot
[05:37] <Unimatrix9> covOPprometheus ; no, because i dont think you have that driver installed yet
[05:37] <prime> anyone here who uses the Gscore?
[05:37] <hollaback83> I want to enable cookies so i can read my email
[05:37] <drezha> that mounts the folder Folding off my laptop into LaptopFAH in my home
[05:37] <Unimatrix9> covOPprometheus ; what is the error you get when trying to start x?
[05:37] <brenlae> hollaback83, firefox accepts cookies by default i believe
[05:37] <segfault_> Unimatrix9, use iwlist <interface> scan
[05:38] <Chimere> Hi, how to create a FAT32 partition from the main one (ext3)?
[05:38] <iturk> hi there !! i need to decompress a rar file what are the possibilities for ubuntu ???
[05:38] <ajtraynor> partition magic
[05:38] <covOPprometheus> Unimatrix9, hmm I don't remember the exact problem, but what do you need to know in especific
[05:38] <Chimere> Ubuntu?
[05:38] <segfault_> iturk, unrar in universe or multiverse
[05:38] <hollaback83> mines does not accept them
[05:38] <iturk> segfault_: its called unrar-free
[05:38] <hollaback83> i got it thanks anyway
[05:38] <Lilandra> is ubuntu-standard a regular meta-package for all the desktop *ubuntu installs?
[05:38] <tiredbones> I found it! Evolution -> edit -> preferences
[05:39] <Unimatrix9> covOPprometheus ; it would be helpfull yes
[05:39] <mouseclonez> quick question:  I have ubuntu server installed.  When i set the static ip address and do a sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart etho no longer shows up.  i can do a sudo ifup eth0 and it will start working.  What am i missing.  I have followed walk thoughs but don't seem to be able to find an answer
[05:39] <prime> left the room
[05:39] <iturk> segfault_: i get failed so i think that i need to get the non-free version
[05:39] <Chimere> Why not Gparted?
[05:39] <brenlae> iturk, i believe there is a command line version of winrar for Linux on the main winrar site
[05:40] <segfault_> Lilandra, no
[05:40] <covOPprometheus> Unimatrix9, hehe well sec then, mind going on a personal channel? I ahve to type in everything manually
[05:40] <MaKaTiGuY> hello
[05:40] <MaKaTiGuY> need some help pls
[05:41] <Unimatrix9> covOPprometheus ; maybe reading this might give you an clue as to how installing ati drivers
[05:41] <Unimatrix9> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[05:41] <Enselic> How do I tell Ubuntu to open *.rm files in realplayer instead of totem?
[05:41] <brenlae> egads, ATi drivers are the pits
[05:41] <MaKaTiGuY> how can i transfer my mounted drive to a different location?
[05:42] <segfault_> MaKaTiGuY, umount then mount it, or mount --bind to also mount it at another place
[05:42] <covOPprometheus> Unimatrix9, ehm yes, but remember I don't have a internet connection
[05:42] <ricanelite> Hello
[05:42] <MaKaTiGuY> seg: what is the parameters, sorry, im new
[05:42] <ricanelite> Does anyone here know about Wine?
[05:42] <segfault_> MaKaTiGuY, man mount
[05:42] <atroWork> MaKaTiGuY, are you wanting to move it (as in not in the old place), copy it (as in both, but only taking up the space once), or have it in both (with space taken up on both)
[05:43] <MaKaTiGuY> it's in a temp directory
[05:43] <four> drezha on the command line you gave me, do i just replace chris with the network computer name?
[05:43] <cute_bettong> !sources
[05:43] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:43] <MaKaTiGuY> i dont know how did it get there
[05:43] <atroWork> MaKaTiGuY, you just want to mount it in a different location?
[05:43] <MaKaTiGuY> ya
[05:43] <cute_bettong> !easysource
[05:43] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:44] <atroWork> MaKaTiGuY, look up the manual pages for umount and mount. You'll need to unmount (umount) the current mount point and remount it where you want it to be.
[05:45] <MaKaTiGuY> ok, tnx guys
[05:46] <ricanelite> Does anyone here know about Wine?
[05:47] <gangerli> hi all
[05:47] <gangerli> somebody help me out
[05:47] <Khamael> ricanelite: it`s easier if you just ask the question
[05:47] <Khamael> gangerli: : it`s easier if you just ask the question
[05:48] <gangerli> what do I need to install if I want to create macromedia director-like content?
[05:48] <gangerli> any programs like that on linux?
[05:48] <Khamael> gangerli: I don`t know. but someone here might. just hang around
[05:49] <hYper_> hi all
[05:49] <ricanelite> Okay, Well I have installed IE6 using Wine and when I type in wine iexplorer.exe the Wine Desktop window opens and then I have another window inside the Wine Desktop which is Wine Internet Explorer and nothing happens it is just in plain white
[05:49] <Khamael> hello hYper_
[05:49] <hYper_> Khamael :)
[05:49] <covOPprometheus> is there any similar software like the media center in the winXP media edition for ubuntu ?
[05:50] <Khamael> ricanelite: tried this http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page ?
[05:50] <segfault_> covOPprometheus, mythtv maybe
[05:50] <covOPprometheus> segfault_, do you have an url?
[05:50] <e-head> Hey guys, what's the Ghost/TrueImage for Linux ?
[05:50] <segfault_> covOPprometheus, google is ur friend
[05:51] <e-head> That's easy to use ... "easy" meaning I can figure it out in 30 minutes or less.
[05:51] <covOPprometheus> segfault_, hehe I'm just lazy boy
[05:51] <segfault_> :)
[05:51] <Khamael> e-head: what is ghost/trueimage,anyways?
[05:52] <e-head> A hard drive cloning program.
[05:52] <segfault_> e-head, what r u trying to accomplish
[05:52] <ricanelite> Next anyone here has worked with jnlp file?
[05:52] <e-head> drive/partition cloning.
[05:52] <Khamael> e-head: then I don`t know
[05:52] <e-head> I want to boot to a CD and make a clone of my drive.
[05:52] <hYper_> heY guYs, is there some way to fix gDesklets, weather?
[05:52] <kaphein> need help with bind/named, any guru in here, or any place you would go :) ? (_not_ google _please_, I know how to search)
[05:52] <Khamael> e-head: gnuparted for formatting
[05:52] <e-head> I'm afraid my drive is going to go kaput
[05:53] <Khamael> e-head: I mean gparted
[05:53] <segfault_> e-head, for linux there is really no need, u can use tar to copy the contents in an archive and then reinstall grub if its a bott prt
[05:53] <hYper_> i seems Yahoo changed something and gDesklets won't work
[05:53] <hYper_> it*
[05:54] <e-head> segfault_: should I boot to single user mode first ? And have root mounted read only ?  How about the files in /dev/ ?
[05:54] <atroWork> I have a directory that shows up really weird in 'ls -l' the d flag is a question mark instead, the permissions are all hyphens, user/group/size/date are all question marks too, and the name of the used-to-be-a-directory is red text on a black background.
[05:54] <segfault_> e-head, do u want to clone / ?
[05:54] <e-head> exactly
[05:54] <atroWork> I can't rmdir or chmod them, even as root. Anything that tries to access them (including ls) takes a minute or more to process. I just want to delete the directories
[05:55] <segfault_> e-head, ull need a live cd, cant do that while items are mounted
[05:55] <e-head> Cool
[05:55] <segfault_> e-head, err didnt mean while mounted, meant while running os off of them
[05:55] <e-head> I'll just download the latest Knoppix
[05:55] <Khamael> e-head: there is a gparted livecd, that boots and lets you partition. don`t know about cloning,tho
[05:55] <e-head> Are there any fancy switches I need so the device files get copied right ? And the user permissions and all that ?
[05:56] <Khamael> e-head: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[05:56] <Unimatrix9> is there an gui program that lets you connect to different wireless networks?
[05:57] <cd32fan> hello
[05:57] <Khamael> hello cd32fan
[05:57] <cd32fan> can anybody help me get Ubuntu online?
[05:57] <cd32fan> i am getting white hairs here
[05:58] <Unimatrix9> seems to me you are online
[05:58] <Khamael> what Unimatrix9 said :P
[05:59] <Khamael> cd32fan: or do you want to acquire a cd or iso online?
[05:59] <cd32fan> but i am on xp right now
[05:59] <Unimatrix9> spell it out, and you might get an answer...:P
[05:59] <ed209> ah...
[05:59] <cd32fan> i have the cd
[05:59] <cd32fan> i tried to boot
[05:59] <cd32fan> worked ok
[05:59] <ed209> but...
[05:59] <cd32fan> but when i tried to get online
[05:59] <cd32fan> no connection
[05:59] <ed209> twas not successful?
[05:59] <cd32fan> i have a usb modem
[05:59] <cd32fan> no
[05:59] <ed209> what type??
[05:59] <cd32fan> sagem
[06:00] <Khamael> cd32fan: have you actually installed, or are you just running the livecd?
[06:00] <cd32fan> i was running of the cd
[06:00] <cd32fan> great work they did for the cd
[06:01] <cd32fan> but still i couldnt use the net..
[06:01] <highneko> Azureus's tray icon is showing up as a vertical white line, and it's hard to click it. Has anyone seen this before? http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/numbers6554/Screenshot7.png
[06:01] <Khamael> cd32fan: searched the forums?
[06:01] <ajtraynor> if your installing unix, what is a boot loader
[06:02] <cd32fan> i think my modem isnt supported
[06:02] <cd32fan> i use a usb modem
[06:02] <highneko> ajtraynor: It's a program that picks when os to boot. Like start winxp, or ubuntu.
[06:02] <ed209> cd32fan:  chances are the sagem usb modem will need additional setup once botted. at a guess its not being automagically configured from the live CD. If this was an install it would be much easier to run through. but any changes you make during your liveCD session will be lost at next reboot
[06:03] <ajtraynor> ok, so if i want windows to be default, how do i do that
[06:03] <cd32fan> how do i configure my modem,i tried automatic but it did wasnt recognized
[06:03] <ed209> I beleive the modem is supported to what extend I couldn't tell you unless you provide the model number (which I couldn't tell you off the top of my head) you will need to consult with the hardware compatibility guides online for your particular model
[06:04] <cd32fan> so its possible this modem isnt compatible
[06:04] <sureshot> ed209 does ubuntu support winmodems
[06:04] <ed209> its always possible. on the other hand I'd hazard a guess that if you could find the product/model number you will find a compatibility guide online for various distro's
[06:04] <SurfnKid> has anyone successfully gotten an HP laserjet running on ubuntu
[06:05] <ed209> yup
[06:05] <ed209> got one right here but its on a jetdirect port
[06:05] <cd32fan> i have the modem installation cd,but it was meant to work on xp
[06:05] <ed209> the XP CD will be useless for this instance (ush
[06:05] <SurfnKid> ed209, network port?
[06:06] <SurfnKid> im trying to get a usb hp 3330 running
[06:06] <ed209> yes, through cups
[06:06] <SurfnKid> using hplip right
[06:06] <ed209> oh a 33*** series, they're a bit of a pain. are you on 6.06 dapper?
[06:06] <H3b0R> help i cant get sound in truecombat:elite!!!
[06:06] <SurfnKid> yep
[06:06] <SurfnKid> its listed as compatible with 0.9.5 driver
[06:06] <phanter> hi there, I have problems with a script that should install my lazer printer
[06:07] <phanter> I am not sure where to start with my question without the source of the script... anywabody who would like to help  me with it
[06:07] <ed209> for the 3330 print : - install the default laserjet printer driver under CUPS and use the recommended "laserjet" driver
[06:07] <cd32fan> its a Sagem Fast 808
[06:07] <cd32fan> is it compatible?
[06:07] <ed209> don't use the 3300 postscript or other ones
[06:08] <ed209> Sagem Fast 800 series I think is, but only with 5.10 onwards - dapper should be ok. BRB - just checking archives
[06:08] <SurfnKid> ed209, under cups where would that be
[06:08] <phanter> how can I find out my hardware platform (or is it simply i386 ?)
[06:09] <gnomefreak> phanter: what cpu do you have?
[06:10] <cd32fan> ed209:where can i get the installation files for my modem?
[06:10] <cd32fan> can you provide a link,please
[06:10] <gnomefreak> cd32fan: what type of modem?
[06:10] <phanter> gnomefreak: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz
[06:10] <ed209> CD32:looks like you can compile the SAGEM 800 driver yourself but otherwise an installation of additional modules for your kernel is required http://fast800.tuxfamily.org/pub/rubrique.php3?id_rubrique=2
[06:10] <gnomefreak> phanter: 686 is what you want
[06:10] <phanter> oke
[06:10] <ed209> cd32:  eg: you would have to first do an installation then add in the modules later
[06:10] <gnomefreak> i686
[06:11] <ed209> cd32: better link for your modem:     http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=45969
[06:12] <amukanuk> Hello. I connect to my PC through vnc. I am running this through my current session that can also be viewed at home. How would i go about locking my computers access at home while still allowing me to access it remotely?
[06:13] <cd32fan> ed209:is this an easy install ?
[06:13] <cd32fan> the modem parts,i mean
[06:13] <Seapig|wrk> amukanuk,  --- disconnect the keyboard, monitor and mouse
[06:13] <mjr> amukanuk, look into running a separate remotely (only) vnc-viewable Xvnc server. This will require some tweaking on your part.
[06:14] <pike_> amukanuk: couldnt you just ssh into the computer and do like vncserver :02 then from client  vncviewer ipadd:02 ?
[06:14] <pike_> amukanuk: or :whatever
[06:16] <sureshot> phanter is the a celeron
[06:17] <njal> ok I need some help with that damn bcm43xx driver, I have a mac running dapper and lsmod shows the driver is runniong and the networeking window shows the connection is active it's just not connection
[06:18] <SurfnKid> could someone help me set up an HP printer
[06:19] <SurfnKid> the hplip driver is installed ( partially ) and when running hp-setup no comand is found
[06:19] <[H] 3b0R> help i cant get any sound in truecombat:elite!
[06:19] <ahz^> hello, can someone tell me how can i change the name of an directory, by my mystake a changed one dir name in ... and i can't find it pleaes
[06:20] <SurfnKid> !HP
[06:20] <phanter> is anybody who would like to help me with debugging a script?
[06:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about HP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:20] <phanter> please?
[06:20] <SurfnKid> !print
[06:20] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:20] <ahz^> anyone can help me please ?
[06:21] <ahz^> hello, can someone tell me how can i change the name of an directory, by my mystake a changed one dir name in ... and i can't find it please
[06:21] <BigChirv> ahz^, oh
[06:21] <BigChirv> ahz^, open a console
[06:21] <ahz^> BigChirv: yes
[06:21] <BigChirv> ahz^, and write down this
[06:21] <BigChirv> ahz^, mv ... anewname
[06:22] <ahz^> BigChirv "anewname" i put my dir name ?
[06:22] <phanter> ahz^: and the ... is the oldname
[06:22] <BigChirv> ahz^, You cannot see it because the files or directories that start with '.' are hidden entries.
[06:22] <BigChirv> ahz^, yep
[06:23] <ahz^> BigChirv yep i know that dirs starts with "." is hidden
[06:23] <ahz^> thanks a lot
[06:23] <BigChirv> ahz^, yw
[06:23] <BigChirv> :-)
[06:23] <chori> is the any other way to remove everything about a package then "apt-get --purge remove package" and "dpkg --purge package"?
[06:23] <phanter> oke. I try to install a samsung printer. It used to work, but now the install script gives me strange errors. I am not sure why, but maybe somebody would like to look at it with me?
[06:24] <chori> becouse I'm have problem with a installation of pure-ftpd
[06:24] <BigChirv> chori, yep, sudo aptitude --purge remove package :-D
[06:24] <chori> BigChirv: :)
[06:24] <chori> BigChirv: I'm guesing it does the same?
[06:24] <BigChirv> chori, it performs sometimes better than apt-get
[06:24] <phanter> BigChirv: Do all these programs not jsut rely on dpkg ???
[06:25] <BigChirv> phanter, yep
[06:25] <BigChirv> phanter, But they have algorithms to solve dependencies between packages
[06:25] <chori> BigChirv: so dpkg --purge pure-ftpd should be the best?
[06:25] <chori> BigChirv: becouse when I try to reinstall it it doesn't create /etc/pure-ftpd
[06:25] <BigChirv> chori, use aptitude instead of dpkg.
[06:26] <chori> BigChirv: ok
[06:26] <phanter> oke, in the script it has variables like: $HARDWARE_PLATFORM. I cannot find where they fill this variable, or is it a system variable ?
[06:27] <chori> lets se if it works better to install using aptitude
[06:27] <chori> no, still get the same errors :(
[06:27] <BigChirv> phanter, Maybe that script is sourced by other one and that variable is defined in that script.
[06:28] <chori> for some strange reason the install doesn't create /etc/pure-ftpd
[06:28] <phanter> BigChirv: I do not understand the part "sourced by other one"
[06:28] <BigChirv> chori, that  is not exactly a error. :-)
[06:28] <BigChirv> chori, Try to create it by yourself, using any example you find on Google
[06:28] <chori> BigChirv: it becomes an error when the install tries to start pure-ftpd and cant find /etc/pure-ftpd/conf
[06:29] <BigChirv> phanter, A script being called by another "parent" script
[06:29] <chori> I have some backups of my old install
[06:29] <chori> can use thet
[06:29] <chori> *that
[06:29] <BigChirv> chori, Good
[06:29] <phanter> Well, the script is called derectly by me :)
[06:29] <BigChirv> Oh
[06:29] <BigChirv> :-P
[06:29] <phanter> but it is not a system wide var then?
[06:30] <BigChirv> phanter, echoing it does'nt return any value so I would say that it is not a system variable.
[06:30] <cute_bettong> ok can someone tell me why i cannot send or receve files through gaim from windows users? i do have a router is there something im missing?
[06:31] <J-K> yow
[06:31] <J-K> what version comes with xgl??
[06:31] <XplOzIon> cute_bettong, maybe incoming port is blocked by router
[06:31] <phanter> cute_bettong: my experience is that sending and receiving is very slow, but it should work
[06:32] <J-K> i have 6.6 gnome is pretty good but i saw xgl on gootube... i want thatt!
[06:32] <chori> ok, and what do I need to solve the errors about tls?
[06:32] <cute_bettong> ok what ports does it use?
[06:33] <crynosphere> is there anyone who can help me wit linux
[06:33] <cute_bettong> most of us here :3
[06:33] <chori> crynosphere: with what?
[06:33] <cute_bettong> whatcha need?
[06:33] <BigChirv> lol for free?
[06:33] <BigChirv> x-D
[06:33] <cute_bettong> and what ports does game use
[06:33] <cute_bettong> gaim i mean
[06:33] <crynosphere> cool
[06:34] <cd32fan> can anyone provide a link to the modem sagem fast modules,please
[06:34] <crynosphere> i need help i got ubuntu on pc pro mag and it says i need to burn it to disk but its not a iso its a zip file and if i burmn wast in the file to disk it does not boot from that disk
[06:35] <bakert> cute_bettong,    1.  443 -> MSN (ssl)
[06:35] <bakert>    2. 1863 -> MSN
[06:35] <bakert>    3. 5050 -> Yahoo
[06:35] <bakert>    4. 5190 -> AIM/ICQ
[06:35] <bakert>    5. 5222 -> Jabber (including Google Talk)
[06:35] <bakert>    6. 6667 -> IRC
[06:35] <phanter> crynosphere: and what is in the zip file ?
[06:35] <trevXOR> Hi how do I uninstall a program that I installed manually through the source code? i tried dpkg -r, but I keep getting this: "dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove acroread, only the config
[06:35] <trevXOR>  files of which are on the system.  Use --purge to remove them too.
[06:35] <trevXOR> " which I don't understand
[06:35] <chori> crynosphere: no idea, why don't you just download it?
[06:35] <XplOzIon> does anyone has experience with pure-ftpd im having some problems that i cant fix. Thanks if you can help me
[06:35] <crynosphere> its like a bunch of folders
[06:35] <crynosphere> and files
[06:35] <crynosphere> not 1 iso
[06:35] <chori> XplOzIon: Me too :D
[06:35] <phanter> crynosphere: so why do you not download the iso file ?
[06:35] <chori> XplOzIon: what problem do you have?
[06:35] <BigChirv> trevXOR, Just delete its files and direcroties. Be careful. :-)
[06:36] <crynosphere> i dont have enough bandwidth
[06:36] <XplOzIon> chori: well i can login using SSL for some reason it wont let me, but i do can login with TLS protocol
[06:36] <cute_bettong> bakert those udp or tcp?
[06:36] <phanter> crynosphere: well then it will be a bit more complecated :)
[06:36] <crynosphere> phanter i can give u a screenshot
[06:37] <phanter> crynosphere: not needed. how dit you get this zip file?
[06:37] <chori> XplOzIon: ok, cant help you. Haven't got ssl/tls to work. How did you get that to work?
[06:38] <Eidolos> I'm having trouble with my sound. It's playing at like 75% speed (very disorienting for music..). I've tried switching my player (happens in amaroK and the play utility, even in Firefox) and I've tried switching amaroK's sound engine from alsa to oss to esd all to no avail.
[06:38] <crynosphere> i got it of the pc pro mag
[06:38] <trevXOR> BigChirv: Cheers!
[06:38] <brenlae> anybody fancy James Blunt?
[06:38] <brenlae> great singer, i have his album, Back to Bedlum
[06:38] <XplOzIon> chori: i configure it this way "./configure --with-everything --with-paranoidmsg --with-virtualchroot --with-tls --with-largefile --with-mysql"
[06:38] <chori> XplOzIon: ok, you didn't use apt to install it?
[06:39] <XplOzIon> no
[06:39] <XplOzIon> chori: no i used source :P
[06:39] <chori> XplOzIon: did you add anything to the config files to get it working?
[06:39] <chori> XplOzIon: ok, isn't it the latest version in "universe"?
[06:39] <crynosphere> do u want the screenie phanter
[06:39] <Alakazamz0r> this is the bomb shit: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8364765888913844739&sourceid=docidfeed&hl=en
[06:39] <XplOzIon> chori: no i didnt add anothyng, it depends how to start it my friend
[06:40] <phanter> crynosphere: well, I don't think that will be very usefull, but where did you get the zip file from?
[06:40] <cd32fan> how do i remove the older modules for the modem?
[06:40] <MagicFab> where should / can I ask about dvgrab ? I can't capture live video without the camera being in record mode (which wears heads) and if I do It without a tape, the camera shutsdown automatically after ~10 min
[06:40] <chori> XplOzIon: yes I know, but you can add things to the config dir instead
[06:40] <crynosphere> i got it from the pc pro mag dvd its on the dvd but it says burn iso but it aint a iso
[06:40] <Justy-> hello
[06:40] <cd32fan> how do i summon the comand prompt on the ubuntu desktop?
[06:41] <CarlFK> cd32fan: apps, Accesories, Terminal
[06:41] <phanter> crynosphere: oke send me a screenie
[06:41] <XplOzIon> chori: i didnt add anything, just configured it like i told you, and to have TLS/SSL working you need to start it using -Y #
[06:41] <cd32fan> thanks
[06:41] <crynosphere> it sending can u see it
[06:41] <phanter> no, you cannot send it over irc
[06:41] <CarlFK> what is the lightest BT client that will let me pick a file from a multi file torrent?
[06:42] <cd32fan> how do i remove older modem modules,where are they located?
[06:42] <chori> XplOzIon: ok
[06:42] <crynosphere> do u have skype
[06:42] <Justy-> question: i have installed NetworkManager and accidently i typed in a password when it prompted me.. i just want to disable that password that it asks me everytime connecting to a network =(
[06:42] <phanter> yes, but I prefer a dumb website
[06:42] <chori> XplOzIon: becouse I use the config-directory, thinks it's easier
[06:42] <crynosphere> plz can we use skype
[06:42] <crynosphere> my username is "sean_sylvia"
[06:42] <CarlFK> crynosphere: skype is crap - you should not encourage others to use it
[06:43] <phanter> crynosphere: I prefer not to
[06:43] <jokoon> Hello, I need help : I recently installed ubuntu and I don't have internet on it. the connection requires a login/pass and I successfuly configured it on windows without installed anything. (details of on how I did it : http://docs.google.com/View?docid=ddt7pq6_10chwgtw )
[06:43] <crynosphere> ok
[06:43] <crynosphere> wat can i use
[06:43] <phanter> CarlFK: where can somebody dumb screenshots again???
[06:43] <CarlFK> crynosphere: check out ... Ekigina - it was installed with Dapper - never used it, but if it is part of the base install...
[06:43] <axeeOo> hi, im trying to get java working. When I type "java version" in terminal I get this error: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: version
[06:43] <axeeOo> any idea why?
[06:43] <CarlFK> phanter: um... one of the paste sites... leme look
[06:44] <jamx> axeeOo: did u type java version or java --version?
[06:44] <XplOzIon> chori: what you mean using the configuration folder??
[06:44] <crynosphere> i dont have dapper on my system
[06:44] <chori> XplOzIon: Instead of starting it with flags you can add files with the values
[06:44] <Justy-> Hello! my question: I have installed NetworkManager and accidentlyIi typed in a password when it prompted me.. I just want to disable that password that it asks me everytime connecting to a network =(
[06:44] <phanter> crynosphere: that is what we are working on isn't it :)
[06:44] <crynosphere> yip
[06:45] <XplOzIon> chori: oh yeah thats right
[06:45] <AbortD> anyone know why flash is all laggy in ubuntu?
[06:45] <chori> XplOzIon: thinks it easier
[06:45] <phanter> grrr. cannot remember the dumb/paste websites. anybody who can help me out ?
[06:45] <IcemanV9> all of sudden, special keys for z60m sound (mute, down, up buttons) disappeared today. all i could remember was that i installed htop last night. i would like to have special keys back the way it was. arrgh.
[06:45] <georgy> ! pastebin
[06:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:46] <XplOzIon> chori: yeah, but since my server doesnt ever restart or reboot :P i wish i could fix this SSL problem, and FXP transfer speed
[06:46] <axeeOo> jamx, i typed "java version"
[06:46] <chori> XplOzIon: :D
[06:46] <phanter> georgy: is there such a service for screenshots as well ?
[06:46] <chori> XplOzIon: sorry, but I cant help you
[06:47] <jamx> axeeOo: then try --version :)
[06:47] <axeeOo> jamx: alex@alex-desktop:~$ java --version
[06:47] <axeeOo> Unrecognized option: --version
[06:47] <axeeOo> Could not create the Java virtual machine.
[06:47] <georgy> phanter : don't know
[06:47] <truiu> axeeOo: use java -version
[06:47] <Garbaek> How do I modify mysql settings so its not creating "Created_tmp_disk_tables"
[06:47] <Justy-> Hello! my question: I have installed NetworkManager and accidently, I typed in a password when it prompted me.. I just want to disable that password that it asks me everytime connecting to a network =(
[06:48] <JosefK> Justy-: that's gnome-keyring, right?
[06:48] <CarlFK> phanter: i just checked the 4 or so I use - no luck -
[06:48] <phanter> crynosphere: oke, it will get more difficult then...
[06:48] <Justy-> JosefK, i dont know
[06:48] <JosefK> Justy-: there's the wireless key, and there's gnome-keyring that stores the saved wireless-key
[06:48] <crynosphere> i have it on a image site (WELL I BUSY PUTTING IT ON ONE NOW
[06:48] <crynosphere> )
[06:48] <JosefK> Justy-: you can 'apt-get install gnome-keyring-manager' to play around with your saved passwords
[06:49] <axeeOo> jamx or truiu, thanks, now when i type "javac Classname.java" it compiles fine, but when I type "java classname.class" I get the exception in thread main error
[06:49] <phanter> crynosphere: oke perfect :)
[06:49] <JosefK> Justy-: deleting the stored password using gnome-keyring-manager should have the desired effect
[06:49] <crynosphere> phanter plz join #helpme
[06:49] <axeeOo> It includes no libs, its a simple hello world app
[06:49] <truiu> axeeOo: just java classname
[06:49] <Justy-> JosefK, thanks =)
[06:49] <axeeOo> truiu, I am enlightened. Thanks
[06:49] <JosefK> Justy-: np's :)
[06:51] <Justy-> JosefK, ops.. I think it shows only the passwords for WEP and WPA
[06:51] <SuperMiguel> hwo can i change my computer name?
[06:51] <chori> Subhuman: /etc/hostname
[06:51] <JosefK> Justy-: indeed, you can delete the entire keyring if you want
[06:51] <Justy-> JosefK, but i need to delete the nm-applet 's key
[06:52] <Justy-> JosefK, i hope i could make myself understandable
[06:52] <JosefK> Justy-: gnome-keyring stores nm-applet's key
[06:52] <JosefK> Justy-: hehe, I think I get it - the nm-applet key is stored in gnome-keyring, when you login it's gnome-keyring asking you for the keyring password
[06:52] <SuperMiguel> how can i change my computer name?
[06:53] <Subhuman> chori, ?
[06:53] <Subhuman> i didnt ask a question.
[06:53] <Justy-> JosefK, yes i think that one is correct
[06:53] <chori> Subhuman: sorry?
[06:53] <chori> Subhuman: ah...sorry :D
[06:53] <Subhuman> :)
[06:53] <JosefK> Justy-: I'm not sure if you can setup a keyring without a password, I guess you could delete the entire keyring, logout/login again and try?
[06:53] <chori> SuperMiguel: /etc/hostname
[06:54] <hardkaare> Hi, is there any of the rhythmbox or Banshee that can download art/cover pictures by itself?
[06:54] <Justy-> JosefK, there are 2 keyrings here, one for a wireless network called "asus_router" and one called "benq"
[06:54] <Justy-> JosefK, do you want me to delete both?
[06:54] <gortiz> someone could help me with xgl
[06:55] <JosefK> Justy-: those are both keys :) the keyring is what they're stored in
[06:55] <pike_> !xgl > gortiz
[06:55] <Garbaek> !xgl > Garbaek
[06:55] <Garbaek> hmm
[06:55] <Justy-> JosefK, ewww hang on
[06:55] <gortiz> i have installed compiz & xgl
[06:55] <gortiz> but i don't know how to set them up
[06:55] <cd32fan> thanks for the help ;)
[06:56] <JosefK> Justy-: that may well be the 'default' keyring
[06:56] <JosefK> Justy-: in which case, see if you can change/remove the password from within gnome-keyring-manager :/
[06:58] <Justy-> JosefK, brb
[06:58] <JosefK> Justy-: rgr
[06:59] <boink> if you want to use smbfs, you need to lsmod the smbfs module?
[06:59] <boink> I can't mount any samba/windows shares onto mybox
[06:59] <kmaynard> just isntall it
[06:59] <kmaynard> install
[06:59] <boink> I've installed smbfs already
[06:59] <Miles> Hi there
[06:59] <poncho1> !postfix
[06:59] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[06:59] <JosefK> boink: it'll be loaded automatically, as needed
[07:00] <pike_> boink: lsmod just lists modules.  modprobe would be what you wanted if lsmod did not show it already
[07:00] <boink> damm .. I'll I get is "Access denied"
[07:00] <Miles> !xgl
[07:00] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:00] <j-j> hey all im quite new to linux and need help is there possibly anyone who can help me set up my wireless network  i have downloaded madWifi i cant work out how to install it and need a bit of help from here on please
[07:00] <xueh> i'm using 6.06 dapper, with als1.0.13rc3, but still no sound, does any one know is there a but here for my sound card hda-intel ICH7
[07:01] <jadacyrus>  If I install a kernel.org kernel on UBuntu, will it break?
[07:01] <SeanTater> !wifi > j-j
[07:01] <gilesw> try out the network-manage j-j
[07:01] <kmaynard> boink, you may want to try #samba ... smart people in there
[07:01] <JohnFlux_> what's the ubuntu dev chat room please?
[07:01] <boink> you're smart too
[07:01] <boink> :)
[07:01] <kmaynard> !wireless > j-j
[07:01] <boink> odd .. you said it should have automagically loaded the mod smbfs, but it didn't
[07:01] <gilesw> what cd/dvd burning app do you guys recommend?
[07:01] <pike_> jadacyrus: you can boot whatever kernel you want if it doesnt work just boot the old one np
[07:02] <SeanTater> JohnFlux_: #ubuntu-devel
[07:02] <jadacyrus> pike_: okay, how do I go abotu safely installing the kernel.org kernel?
[07:02] <JosefK> jadacyrus: you don't, it isn't safe, it may/may-not work
[07:02] <JosefK> jadacyrus: on dapper you stand little chance, edgy is more optimistic
[07:02] <jadacyrus> im on edgy
[07:03] <Justy-> JosefK, back
[07:03] <jadacyrus> The only reason im sayin this is the nvidia people told me to do it because their drivers keep crashing my system
[07:03] <Justy-> JosefK, http://justyy.by.ru/1.png
[07:03] <JosefK> jadacyrus: you can use make-kpkg to build the kernel into .deb's, so it's fairly easy to remove - plenty of stuff on google about building a kernel for Debian/Ubuntu
[07:03] <bieb_work> I am trying to load Ubuntu on a system with a gigabyte GA-K8U-939, I have 2 80gb HDD in RAID1, but it looks like Ubuntu is not seeing the RAID config...
[07:03] <SeanTater> jadacyrus: are you using the i386 it i686 kernel?
[07:03] <jadacyrus> i686 (generic)
[07:03] <JosefK> Justy-: that's asking you for the keyring password :)
[07:03] <SeanTater> jadacyrus: I had a few problems with i686 + nvidia
[07:03] <xabaras> ragazzi xgl con xfce  partito
[07:04] <xabaras> ma come faccio a far partire beryl con xgl
[07:04] <SeanTater> jadacyrus: it maybe a good idea to at least try i386 before you break your system
[07:04] <jadacyrus> ive tried i386
[07:04] <jadacyrus> same problem
[07:04] <jadacyrus> Im on a core duo system
[07:04] <SeanTater> jadacyrus: okay then -- enjoy compiling
[07:04] <Justy-> JosefK, It says in bold: Please enter password to open key of default keyring :s
[07:04] <jadacyrus> so im using an SMP kernel currently
[07:05] <ddoid> can ne1 give me workin repositories ? universal
[07:05] <JosefK> Justy-: looks like it may well ask you that anyway even if there isn't a password :/
[07:05] <Justy-> JosefK, and continues: 'nm-applet' wants to reach default keyring but keyring is locked
[07:05] <profoX`> so...
[07:05] <jadacyrus> bleh, i dont feel like compiling a kernel right now. i just woke up heh. Ill just wait till edgy gets better
[07:05] <profoX`> why can't I grab the drivers for 2 different graphic cards
[07:05] <profoX`> from apt-get ?
[07:05] <SeanTater> ddoid: say !repositories
[07:05] <ddoid> thanx
[07:06] <ddoid> !repositories
[07:06] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:06] <kmaynard> !video
[07:06] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[07:06] <Justy-> JosefK, bah, at least that is better =/ I am just gonna hit enter and go on ...
[07:06] <kmaynard> !nvidia
[07:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:06] <kmaynard> !nvidia > profoX`
[07:06] <profoX`> kmaynard: eeuh no
[07:06] <profoX`> kmaynard: I want to install the fglrx AND nvidia driver
[07:06] <profoX`> kmaynard: i have 2 graphics cards
[07:06] <Jay__> hi all
[07:07] <JosefK> Justy-: heh :/ I don't think you'll be able to stop network-manager doing that, I have the same problem - just shrugged and accepted it after a while
[07:07] <Jay__> i just installed ubuntu and my comp works 100% faster!
[07:07] <profoX`> but apt-get says fglrx + nvidia conflicts
[07:07] <SeanTater> kmaynard: use /msg
[07:07] <boink> that's good news, Jay
[07:07] <profoX`> guess someone didnt take in account that you could have 2 different graphic cards
[07:07] <profoX`> in 1 machine
[07:07] <profoX`> so i have to compile 1 manually and hope that works without interfering the other driver
[07:07] <kmaynard> gl
[07:08] <Justy-> JosefK, you are patient maybe... but i am not =(
[07:08] <ddoid> !repositories
[07:08] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:08] <jadacyrus> profoX: yeah i went through that crap to try to get my dual head working, i just ended up ripping out the ATI and getting a new nvidia card that has an extra DVI out
[07:08] <JosefK> Justy-: heh :P in the end it's a feature of the keyring manager, it's what I'd expect if I was using it to store other keys
[07:08] <LjL> profoX`: well FYI and FWIW, in edgy i don't seem to see a conflict between the two drivers
[07:08] <profoX`> LjL: well using dapper.. edgy is not stable yet
[07:09] <SeanTater> Jay__: good!
[07:09] <Justy-> JosefK, also i am curious to solve that problem :p
[07:09] <LjL> profoX`: as i said, fwiw
[07:09] <profoX`> LjL: so xorg-driver-fglrx doesnt conflict with xorg-driver-nvidia (or how it is called)
[07:09] <profoX`> hm thats good news
[07:09] <worzel> when will edgy come out?
[07:09] <gilesw> end of the month
[07:09] <profoX`> LjL: whats that site that lists all those acronyms like fwiw :)
[07:09] <SeanTater> !schedule > worzel
[07:09] <Lane> What repository could I use to get dsniff for Ubuntu Server?
[07:10] <gnomefreak> worzel: ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:10] <Justy-> gilesw, will we be able to updgrade dapper to edgy thru apt ?
[07:10] <xav> I hope it comes out when it's ready
[07:10] <SeanTater> Lane: I'd guess universe
[07:10] <profoX`> Justy-: yes..
[07:10] <gilesw> sure
[07:10] <xav> and not before
[07:10] <ajtraynor> lads, i need help, i jut installed ubuntu, and it wont connect to my wireless network, what may be the problem
[07:10] <Justy-> profoX`, gilesw, I LOVE UBUNTU!
[07:10] <gnomefreak> Justy-: yes and please take all edgy questions to #ubuntu+1
[07:10] <gilesw> heh
[07:10] <javiolo> what version should I install for a intel core duo 2 ?
[07:10] <AbortD> screw updating im doing a fresh install :/
[07:10] <SeanTater> Lane: Yep, it's in universe
[07:10] <Justy-> gnomefreak, awf sorry that was just a little question
[07:10] <BigChirv> javiolo, Intel version
[07:10] <SeanTater> Justy-: Good!
[07:10] <profoX`> as long as you have your /home and your list of packages, I prefer fresh installs too
[07:10] <gilesw> you should try out the aiglx effects justy
[07:11] <AbortD> my luck usually when i update things get screwy
[07:11] <javiolo> birchirv its 64bits
[07:11] <ddoid> it says failed to each repository... why? i have my network set up ok
[07:11] <LjL> profoX`: ah no, actually i only checked the "nvidia-glx" package, which doesn't say it conflicts with any fglrx package. the packages with names beginning with "fglrx-*" on the other hand seem to have some problems -- i.e. they don't show up with "show". and "xorg-driver-fglrx" does list a conflit with nvidia-glx
[07:11] <gilesw> i'm just trying to work out what apps to use
[07:11] <LjL> profoX`: i don't know off hand, but fwiw = for what is worth, and fyi = for your information
[07:11] <ajtraynor> im setting up my wireless network and it wont work
[07:11] <gnomefreak> Justy-: little or not but with 800+ users one little question can become a landslide of questions
[07:11] <gilesw> amaroks quite cool
[07:11] <profoX`> LjL: i knew fyi :)
[07:11] <ajtraynor> and it doesnt give any reason why
[07:12] <profoX`> LjL: sigh.. guess i'll post a bug report
[07:12] <BigChirv> ajtraynor, Maybe your WiFi card is not supported.
[07:12] <ajtraynor> i just open firefoxand nothing appears
[07:12] <gilesw> ajtraynor:  try network-manager package
[07:12] <ajtraynor> it is becuse i did it before
[07:12] <ajtraynor> whats the network manager package
[07:12] <MaKaTiGuY> hi guys
[07:12] <MaKaTiGuY> heed some help
[07:12] <gilesw> it's just a gui for network settings
[07:13] <gilesw> good though
[07:13] <Lane> SeanTater, thanks
[07:13] <BigChirv> ajtraynor, A program that lets you configure your network interfaces from GNOME
[07:13] <SuperMiguel> how can i change my default browser on KDE to firefox?
[07:13] <Lane> got it
[07:13] <ajtraynor> ok, how do i access it
[07:13] <LjL> profoX`: out of curiosity -- how can you have two modern cards in one computer? pci-e?
[07:13] <MaKaTiGuY> how can i transfer my partiton drive which is located in the /temp folder
[07:13] <BigChirv> ajtraynor, Install it with synaptics
[07:13] <javiolo> what version should I install for a intel core duo 2, its 64bits
[07:13] <profoX`> LjL: actually, my friend is having the problem :)
[07:13] <MaKaTiGuY> "/tmp/disks-conf-hda6"
[07:14] <profoX`> LjL: and why can't you have 2 cards?
[07:14] <ajtraynor> im totally new to this
[07:14] <profoX`> LjL: be it AGP or PCI-X
[07:14] <LjL> SuperMiguel: System Settings / Default programs
[07:14] <ajtraynor> whats synaptics
[07:14] <gilesw> the package manager
[07:14] <boink> the graphical package manager
[07:14] <LjL> profoX`: well, because i've only ever seen motherboards with one AGP slot. PCI-Express is just a technology i really don't know much about, so i asked
[07:14] <ajtraynor> where do i fnd the packet manager
[07:15] <gilesw> top left menus
[07:15] <pike_> javiolo: i would instal the 386 version and just apt-get a 686 kernel with smp support.  no real reason to go with 64
[07:15] <boink> System -> Administration -> Syna
[07:15] <ajtraynor> ok, gotta go
[07:15] <ajtraynor> thans
[07:15] <BigChirv> ajtraynor, Eh a package manager. Click on the Applications menu, then "Add and remove soft" (at the end of the menu)
[07:15] <BigChirv> Uh
[07:15] <SuperMiguel> LjL: where?
[07:15] <profoX`> LjL: oh really? i don't know alot about motherboards.. I thought they had more AGP slots... I'll ask the guy next time I talk to him
[07:15] <LjL> SuperMiguel: in the K menu
[07:15] <boink> ooops then
[07:15] <javiolo> pike_ so no need to 64bits ?
[07:15] <boink> I just use apt-get ... old fashioned way, I know
[07:15] <ddoid> how to fix broken repositories? i can ping and surf but cant apt-get update ? why?
[07:16] <pike_> javiolo: there will be no performace increase and you will probably run into problems if you do.  but you could tryit
[07:16] <MaKaTiGuY> how can i transfer my partiton drive which is located in the /temp folder
[07:16] <profoX`> javiolo: 64bits version of ubuntu? better not use it if you don't know what you're doing
[07:16] <profoX`> 32bits has better compatibility with drivers nd proprietary software
[07:16] <gilesw> i tried 64bit
[07:16] <SuperMiguel> LjL: there is no system setings
[07:16] <MaKaTiGuY> "/tmp/disks-conf-hda6"
[07:16] <gilesw> gave up in the end
[07:16] <profoX`> and 64bits doesnt give you much advantage..
[07:16] <gilesw> just not worth the hastle
[07:16] <SuperMiguel> LjL: you says on the kcontrol?
[07:16] <profoX`> maybe a LITTLE speed bump..
[07:16] <profoX`> but it needs more RAM too..
[07:16] <gilesw> none of the apps had 64bit compiles
[07:16] <LjL> SuperMiguel: no, i say in the K menu. the menu that lists all your applications.
[07:16] <javiolo> profox ok why ?
[07:17] <LjL> SuperMiguel: though you can also find it in KControl for that matter, under "KDE components"
[07:17] <QuoVadis> Hi!
[07:18] <profoX`> javiolo: well.. 32bits ubuntu will run fine on your 64bit machine, and 64bit machines don't really perform twice as good, maybe they perform a _little_ bit better in some areas, but not much! and 64bit distributions also require more RAM.. it's not worth the hassle.. because alot of applications don't work in 64bit without messing around alot, like Flash player, w32codecs, other proprietary stuff like Skype.. etc...
[07:18] <sureshot> hey all wich is the better kernal the 386 or the 686 and what is the difference
[07:18] <bluszcz> hi, where i can find mkinitrd in dapper?
[07:18] <profoX`> javiolo: windows 64bit has the same problem by the way
[07:19] <eracc> Hi, sureshot. :-)
[07:19] <profoX`> can i see the conflicting packages for 1 package with apt-cache (or with something else) ?
[07:19] <sureshot> hi eracc how are you
[07:19] <sureshot> eracc did you get my email
[07:19] <profoX`> sureshot: depends on your processor
[07:19] <MrObvious> Hello.
[07:19] <LjL> profoX`: "apt-cache show packagename"
[07:20] <sureshot> i have a m65 intel p4 at 2gh
[07:20] <eracc> sureshot, about the quad processor boards I quoted you? Yes. If you sent another then, no.
[07:20] <MrObvious> Can someone mention an app that allows me to connect to Windows Terminal Services?
[07:20] <profoX`> 686 kernel is optimized for pentium 2 and higher I think.. difference is small though
[07:20] <georgeb> MrObvious: krdc
[07:20] <hegemon> I need to reconfigure my network interface. is there a commad to run the network configuration as is done during installation?
[07:20] <MrObvious> georgeb: Gracias :)
[07:20] <georgeb> MrObvious: np
[07:20] <sureshot> eracc i just cant afford at the moment is all
[07:20] <profoX`> sureshot: 686 will probably perform a little better, install linux-686
[07:20] <sureshot> i want to do that as soon as i get the money
[07:20] <bluszcz> hi, where i can find mkinitrd in dapper?
[07:20] <eracc> sureshot, yeah, those quad boards are pricey. :-)
[07:20] <profoX`> sureshot: but not that much..
[07:21] <TheGateKeeper> what's the apt-get command for listing the updates?
[07:21] <bluszcz> initrd-toolls
[07:21] <bluszcz> thanks guys
[07:21] <sureshot> profoX please explain for my knowlege
[07:21] <profoX`> LjL: oh really.. i tried that, and I grepped "conflict" but couldnt see it, maybe its 'Conflict" with a capital.. hmm..
[07:21] <LjL> profoX`: yeah it is
[07:21] <profoX`> LjL: yep.. indeed
[07:21] <profoX`> stupid me :)
[07:21] <profoX`> well you're right ..
[07:22] <profoX`> guess i'll post a bug about it: Conflicts: fglrx-driver, xfree86-driver-fglrx, nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-legacy
[07:22] <georgeb> profoX`: try grep -i conflict for case insensitive match
[07:22] <profoX`> georgeb: thanks for the hint
[07:22] <sureshot> eracc what is the syntax to install the 686 kernel
[07:22] <LjL> profoX`: well, before posting a bug, i'd check that they actually don't conflict -- maybe there's some reason why you actually *can't* have both installed
[07:22] <bieb_work> I am trying to load Ubuntu on a system with a gigabyte GA-K8U-939, I have 2 80gb HDD in RAID1, but it looks like Ubuntu is not seeing the RAID config...Anyone have an idea of what to check first?
[07:23] <MaKaTiGuY> can someone help me
[07:23] <eracc> sureshot, I don't know. I've not done that myself.
[07:23] <LjL> profoX`: (well, or running concurrently at least)
[07:23] <AvatarX> Finally I am running ATI + 3D + Dapper
[07:23] <profoX`> LjL: hmm yea.. does seem odd to me..
[07:23] <profoX`> LjL: but..
[07:23] <AvatarX> Finally I am running ATI + 3D + Edgy
[07:23] <sureshot> can someone tell me the syntax for the command to install the 686 kernel
[07:23] <profoX`> LjL: well.. i'll tell my friend to compile and try fglrx..
[07:23] <LjL> profoX`: just a hypothesis
[07:23] <profoX`> instead of installing it through apt-get..
[07:23] <profoX`> hope he knows how :)
[07:23] <LjL> profoX`: well, perhaps you can force apt-get if you try hard enough...
[07:23] <ephemeros> yo
[07:24] <informatica_> hola
[07:24] <jhasse> Why can't i find the "csm" package with synaptic?
[07:24] <LjL> profoX`: or dpkg even, since apt-get doesn't have many forceful options
[07:24] <georgeb> jhasse: probably is not in the repos
[07:24] <profoX`> LjL: yea probably, something like --force-install probably..
[07:24] <profoX`> but i dont know if that works for conflicts
[07:25] <LjL> profoX`: yeah, there's a "--force-conflicts"
[07:25] <jhasse> georgeb,  do you know where i can get a repos with this package in it?
[07:25] <bless> what key is the "return" key in the console?
[07:25] <georgeb> jhasse: I think is in one of this repos: deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/ dapper main   or   deb http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main
[07:25] <profoX`> LjL: ok..
[07:25] <LjL> profoX`: conflicts: Install, even if it conflicts with another package. This is dangerous, for it will usually cause overwriting of some files.
[07:25] <georgeb> bless: the enter :)
[07:25] <profoX`> LjL: but isnt that dangerous :) since it conflicts..
[07:25] <profoX`> well
[07:25] <profoX`> I can imagine
[07:25] <profoX`> that they both change some GL file
[07:25] <sureshot> can someone tell me the syntax for the command to install the 686 kernel
[07:25] <profoX`> and thats why they could conflict
[07:25] <LjL> profoX`: no more dangerous than compiling and sticking files all around, i'd imagine
[07:25] <profoX`> LjL: very true..
[07:26] <Dr_willis> !info kernel-686
[07:26] <ubotu> Package kernel-686 does not exist in any distro I know
[07:26] <profoX`> LjL: but i don't want to cause problems on someone elses pc.. but well.. i guess if I force it, it will just make 1 of those 2 working
[07:26] <profoX`> !info linux-686
[07:26] <ubotu> linux-686: Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.25 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[07:26] <profoX`> LjL: and thats all I need to know..
[07:26] <sureshot> thanks
[07:26] <bluszcz> !info barrage
[07:26] <ubotu> barrage: Rather violent action game. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-1 (dapper), package size 397 kB, installed size 1952 kB
[07:26] <LjL> profoX`: i understand, well, you could probably file the bug anyway
[07:26] <MaKaTiGuY> how can i transfer this one to other location /tmp/disks-conf-hda1?
[07:27] <bluszcz> !info ubuntu
[07:27] <ubotu> Package ubuntu does not exist in any distro I know
[07:27] <profoX`> sureshot: sudo apt-get install linux-686     that should get you everything, kernel + restricted-modules
[07:27] <profoX`> I think?
[07:27] <sureshot> brb goint to install it from the synatpic and reboot
[07:27] <profoX`> sureshot: yea synaptic works too
[07:27] <bluszcz> !help
[07:27] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:27] <arepie> i've installed my fglrx ati driver, but, why does my OpenGL is still mesa?
[07:27] <bluszcz> arepie: it depends
[07:27] <jhasse> georgeb, yes, me too. But i have added them but it isn't in them. I also get erros when apt-get update
[07:27] <sureshot> hey profoX thanks man going to do that right now
[07:27] <profoX`> arepie: did you restart X ?
[07:27] <arepie> i did restart X
[07:27] <bluszcz> arepie: what doues your X log says?
[07:27] <bluszcz> what does dmesg says?
[07:28] <arepie> could you explaint.. im new
[07:28] <CarlFK> did the paste used to have a "upload screen shot" option ?
[07:28] <profoX`> LjL: yea... but I think I better do a little research first..
[07:28] <MaKaTiGuY> how can i transfer this one to other location /tmp/disks-conf-hda1?
[07:28] <shuan> hi
[07:28] <tom``> I just upgraded x with apt-get and now it won't start anymore
[07:28] <jhasse> georgeb, http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/4236/
[07:28] <CarlFK> or, anyone know a paste site that has a "upload screen shot" option ?
[07:29] <profoX`> arepie: do ALT+F2 and type in the commandbox: gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:29] <shuan> can someone help me? i'm trying to install my Epson DX3800 usb printer to ubuntu!?
[07:29] <CarlFK> tom``: huh?  what command?
[07:29] <profoX`> copy-paste everything thats there on a website like www.pastebin.ca arepie
[07:29] <bieb_work> Anyone have an idea on the RAID issue I posted??
[07:29] <tom``> I remember this problem from before, I need towngrade to an earlier version, but it's a little hard to find outw from the command line... anyone got the instructions?
[07:29] <tom``> towngrade=downgrade
[07:30] <arepie> profoX`: here you go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26330/
[07:30] <MaKaTiGuY> ?
[07:30] <ericio6> could anybody advie how to get msn working on ubunto yahoo working but msn wont complete connection       n
[07:30] <profoX`> ericio6: gaim?
[07:30] <LjL> tom``: citygrade?
[07:31] <CarlFK> ericio6: using gaim?
[07:31] <ericio6> gaim or kopete
[07:31] <ericio6> trying both
[07:31] <ajtraynor> i checked all packages, everything is up, but my wireless connection wont work
[07:31] <profoX`> arepie: you don't seem to have configured Xorg to use the fglrx driver.. what install instructions did you use?
[07:31] <profoX`> arepie: did you do: sudo aticonfig --initial        after installation?
[07:31] <LjL> tom``, is that dapper?
[07:31] <tom``> yes
[07:31] <ajtraynor> and it worked before in previous installation
[07:31] <bieb_work> there may be an issue with the way Gaim tries to connect to msn... it fails on my windoze box at work
[07:31] <arepie> profoX`: yes i did
[07:32] <MaKaTiGuY> anyone?
[07:32] <ajtraynor> and i checked the cd for defects
[07:32] <ajtraynor> its somethign smal
[07:32] <ajtraynor> any ideas?
[07:32] <geniusvicks> I downloaded Xgl how Do i  make it work?
[07:32] <Justy-> !pastebin
[07:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:32] <profoX`> arepie: can you ALT+F2 and type: gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf          I think that one line is wrong there..
[07:32] <MaKaTiGuY> anyone?
[07:32] <bieb_work> msn and Yahoo have both been known to change their logins to break the multi chat progs.. like gaim, trillian etc
[07:32] <profoX`> geniusvicks: you _downloaded_ ? how?
[07:32] <profoX`> geniusvicks: source code or did you download it through apt-get ?
[07:32] <geniusvicks> it wuz there in Synaptic
[07:33] <georgeb> jhasse: I don't spot the error; from what I see it's ok; now try sudo apt-get install csm
[07:33] <LjL> tom``: well, out of my mind, i can think of uninstalling the current version, commenting out the security reps (if that's where the update came from), reinstalling, uncommenting the reps, and marking the relevant packages as "on hold" using dpkg
[07:33] <tom``> whoops, just hit the wrong key and logged myself out :p
[07:33] <geniusvicks> profoX`: from Synaptic
[07:33] <arepie> profoX`: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26332/ here it is
[07:33] <profoX`> geniusvicks: go here for install instructions: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu
[07:33] <ajtraynor> why wont my wireless connection work
[07:33] <profoX`> the XGL wiki page is up to date
[07:33] <MaKaTiGuY> genuis: can you help me?
[07:34] <arepie> profoX`: you might want my lspci rite?
[07:34] <profoX`> arepie: not necessary..
[07:34] <tom``> LjL: thanks, I'll try that
[07:34] <LjL> tom``: also, if this may be of help, the package "links2" is a web browser that allows graphical browsing without X
[07:34] <arepie> ok
[07:34] <profoX`> arepie: what graphics card do you have? a newer ati graphics card ?
[07:34] <profoX`> which one exactly? do you know
[07:34] <sureshot> hey all i am downloading the 686 kernel right now my i ask what the difference would be between it and the 386 please
[07:34] <profoX`> sureshot: I already explained...
[07:35] <profoX`> sureshot: 686 might give you a _little_ speedbump
[07:35] <profoX`> sureshot: because its optimized for pentium 2 and higher.. but it won't give you anything special
[07:35] <sureshot> profoXwhy is what i want to know sorry i am trying to learn evry thing i can
[07:35] <MaKaTiGuY> profox:Xhow do i transfer this one to other location /tmp/disks-conf-hda1?
[07:35] <arepie> profoX`: if you wanted to see my lspci here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26334/
[07:35] <sureshot> ok that is good enoungh i need to reboot chat with you and a few
[07:35] <profoX`> MaKaTiGuY: what is "this one" ?
[07:36] <profoX`> sureshot: gl
[07:36] <arepie> profoX`: im using ati radeon 9600 pro
[07:36] <geniusvicks> MaKaTiGuY: What is ur problem?
[07:36] <ajtraynor> wheres a support page for setting up or connecting to wireless network
[07:36] <sivik> how do i turn on ftp?  i already have the stuff installed
[07:36] <MaKaTiGuY> genuis: how do i transfer this one to other location /tmp/disks-conf-hda1?
[07:36] <LjL> tom``: but couldn't you perhaps get X to work again temporarily by telling it to use the VESA driver instead of whatever card specific driver you're using?
[07:36] <profoX`> arepie: that one is fully supported by fglrx.. but one line is wrong in xorg.conf .. thats strange..
[07:37] <profoX`> arepie: you could do it automatically or change it manually.. try it automatically and tell me what the output of the command is..
[07:37] <profoX`> arepie: open up a terminal window
[07:37] <arepie> ok
[07:37] <profoX`> arepie: and then type: sudo aticonfig --initial
[07:37] <profoX`> arepie: what does that give you?
[07:38] <arepie> profoX`: i've pasted in private
[07:38] <profoX`> arepie: ok
[07:39] <Jay__> how do i get kde?
[07:39] <MaKaTiGuY> profox: can i unmount my other partition that is in /temp directory
[07:39] <LjL> Jay__: "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop"
[07:39] <Jay__> then what LjL?
[07:39] <LjL> Jay__: then you have kde
[07:40] <Jay__> so how do i get it in kde instead of gnome and vice-versa after that LjL?
[07:40] <LjL> Jay__: at the login screen, click "Options", and choose a KDE session
[07:41] <LjL> Jay__: and if you want to have KDE's login manager (KDM) instead of Gnome's one (GDM), type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"
[07:41] <sureshot> profoX i changed my session over to xgl and and started beryl and it runs a lot smoother and some what faster thanks
[07:42] <craigbass1976> I can't ssh into my ubuntu box, but I can ssh out of it.  Is the firewall blocking me?  From what I've read, there's no rules in te firewall.  Where is the iptables file?
[07:42] <bayzider> hey i need help instaling a windows progam using wine. I installed it and it installed to my desktop under [program name}.exe.ink
[07:42] <LjL> craigbass1976: do you have "openssh-server" installed?
[07:42] <Jay__> im new to this linux thin
[07:42] <Jay__> *thing
[07:43] <boink> ok
[07:43] <craigbass1976> LjL, Probably not.  Where is the file called iptables?
[07:43] <LjL> craigbass1976: "iptables" is a command. don't know if there's also a file named that
[07:43] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows how to get rid of this error: 'ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:762:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports only playback stream'? I get it when accessing the wine audio tab
[07:43] <LjL> craigbass1976: and, on a default ubuntu, you should have no firewalling iptables rules enabled anyway
[07:43] <craigbass1976> The command adds lines to the file.  In RH systems, it's in /etc/sysconfig but there's no such directory in Ubuntu.
[07:44] <profoX`> sureshot: no problem.. it won't be that much faster though.. maybe a little bit.. i don't really notice much difference myself
[07:44] <bayzider> does any one know what to do from there?
[07:44] <LjL> Jay__: well, just do what i said, it ought to get you into KDE at once.
[07:44] <craigbass1976> Well, I'm going to be running mysql and ssh, so I want some rules.
[07:44] <Zaggynl> firestarter ftw
[07:44] <LjL> craigbass1976: if you say it does add lines to a file, that might be... i didn't know so
[07:45] <LjL> craigbass1976: perhaps you want to look at the "iptables-save" and "iptables-restore" commands
[07:45] <boink> and the iptables flush commands too
[07:46] <craigbass1976> LjL, No, I'd rather just edit the file by hand.
[07:46] <boink> then make yourself a file. you want to block all ports except ssh?
[07:47] <craigbass1976> THere's already a file; I want to knwo if anyone knows where it is.
[07:47] <sureshot> profoX i changed my session over to xgl and and started beryl and it runs a lot smoother and some what faster thanks
[07:47] <boink> so, there's a file?
[07:47] <LjL> craigbass1976: http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_iptables_sarge <- look at the section named "The main files"
[07:47] <sureshot> it is raning out side so i will not be on much it knocks out my sat internet so that is annoying
[07:47] <bayzider> so no one knows?
[07:47] <boink> far as I know, there isn't a file at all.
[07:47] <boink> you need to make it
[07:48] <LjL> boink: i believe so as well
[07:48] <WOLF_> buenas
[07:48] <LjL> boink: which is what iptables-save and iptables-restore seem to help doing, for all that i can see
[07:48] <WOLF_> tengo un problemilla
[07:48] <LjL> !es
[07:48] <MaKaTiGuY> boink: can i move my other partition to another location?
[07:48] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:48] <boink> why would you want to do that?
[07:48] <jrib> ubotu: tell craigbass1976 about iptables
[07:49] <craigbass1976> /var/lib is where it seems to be
[07:49] <clearzen> If you have a server with two ethernet ports which are both receiving connections do you assign each ethernet port it's own ip? And how would you configure this in ubuntu?
[07:49] <jrib> craigbass1976: there's a basic entry in the ubuntu wiki about saving and restoring iptables that might help too
[07:49] <sivik> how do i restart the vsftpd server since i messed with the vsftpd.conf file to allow users, not just anonymous
[07:49] <LjL> craigbass1976: so says the site -- though i have nothing there (but then i don't have any rules set either)
[07:49] <MaKaTiGuY> boink: because, i can't access that partition and its in the /tmp directory
[07:49] <holycow> http://mozy.org/vaio/
[07:49] <ajtraynor> jaysus i need the wireless working
[07:49] <boink> clearzen: System -> Admin -> networking
[07:49] <bayzider> !wine
[07:49] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:49] <holycow> http://mozy.org/vaio/
[07:49] <holycow> way cool
[07:50] <clearzen>  boink: it's a server install I don't have a gui on it
[07:50] <surekha> Hi all, Need help installing postgresql on ubuntu
[07:50] <clearzen> plus I tryed to configure seperate ip addresses and it did not work for me
[07:51] <MaKaTiGuY> boink: because, i can't access that partition and its in the /tmp directory
[07:51] <LjL> !firestarter > craigbass1976
[07:51] <jrib> !info postgresql
[07:51] <ubotu> postgresql: object-relational SQL database management system (transitional). In component universe, is optional. Version 7.5.16.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 44 kB
[07:51] <LjL> craigbass1976: don't know if that's of any use, but it's what most people seem to be using to facilitate creating firewall rules afaik
[07:51] <surekha> can anyone point me to some documentation on installing postgresql on ubuntu
[07:52] <jrib> surekha: sudo apt-get install postgresql     after enabling universe
[07:52] <profoX`> LjL: why isnt force-conflicts in man dpkg?
[07:52] <surekha> jrib: ya I have done that
[07:52] <surekha> I have problems running postgres server
[07:52] <surekha> using postmaster
[07:53] <LjL> profoX`: it is. it's listed under the "--force-things" option... as one of the "things2
[07:53] <jrib> surekha: try to be more specific, what problems?  Do you get errors?  Someone may be able to help, but I probably can't since I don't know anything about postgresql
[07:53] <LjL> surekha: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostgreSQL  and  https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/databases.html  possibly
[07:54] <surekha> thanks LjL!
[07:55] <gta> question: whend itz do to appear the new xubuntu ???
[07:56] <jrib> ubotu: tell gta about schedule
[07:56] <MaKaTiGuY> LjL: can you help me pls
[07:57] <LjL> MaKaTiGuY: can you repeat the problem please?
[07:57] <LjL> !schedule > gta
[07:57] <MaKaTiGuY> LjL: can i move my other partition to another location?
[07:58] <LjL> MaKaTiGuY: "to another location"?
[07:58] <MaKaTiGuY> LjL: because, i can't access that partition and its in the /tmp directory
[07:58] <LjL> MaKaTiGuY: "sudo umount /tmp/whereverthepartitionis", and then mount it somewhere else
[07:58] <LjL> MaKaTiGuY: and don't mount things under /tmp. *never*. they get deleted at reboot
[07:59] <MaKaTiGuY> umount ~/temp/disk-conf-hda6
[07:59] <MaKaTiGuY> umount: /home/dude/temp/disk-conf-hda6 is not mounted (according to mtab)
[07:59] <MaKaTiGuY> ?
[07:59] <LjL> MaKaTiGuY: uh... is that ~/temp, or /tmp? they're two quite different things
[07:59] <MaKaTiGuY> tmp
[08:00] <LjL> MaKaTiGuY: then why did you write "~/temp/disk-conf-hda6"?  try "sudo umount /tmp/disk-conf-hda6" perhaps
[08:00] <MaKaTiGuY> umount: /home/dude/tmp/disk-conf-hda6: not found
[08:00] <profoX`> LjL: when he forces dpkg: dpkg-divert: `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa by xorg-driver-fglrx' clashes with `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa by nvidia-glx'
[08:01] <LjL> MaKaTiGuY: /tmp, "/tmp", it's got a slash -- *not* "tmp"
[08:01] <profoX`> LjL: so it seems like there is a technical reason.. and we _should_ be able to work around it somehow
[08:01] <profoX`> but it's hard because its a symlinked library
[08:02] <profoX`> LjL: i'm going to post a bug about it
[08:02] <MaKaTiGuY> LjL: /tmp right?
[08:03] <profoX`> .so means shared object right?
[08:03] <LjL> MaKaTiGuY: yes. please, can you just type what i told you to type?    sudo umount /tmp/disk-conf-hda6
[08:03] <LjL> profoX`: yeah. library.
[08:03] <profoX`> LjL: yea i know.. but i figured out myself that so means shared object, so i could be wrong :)
[08:03] <LjL> profoX`: if only one OpenGL library is supposed to be active at any given time, then well, i'm not sure it's an easy fix
[08:03] <profoX`> LjL: yep.. i know..
[08:03] <LjL> profoX`: i think i recalls it means that, yeah
[08:04] <profoX`> i think programs look for the file in /usr/lib
[08:04] <profoX`> ..and its linked to either the nvidia so or the fglrx so..
[08:04] <LjL> profoX`: well, you can probably override that for a single problem using shell variables
[08:04] <profoX`> and well.. you can't run 2 X servers then..
[08:04] <LjL> profoX`: LD_LIBRARY_PATH and company
[08:04] <MaKaTiGuY> LjL: umount: /tmp/disk-conf-hda6: not found
[08:04] <profoX`> LjL: yes that sounds like a solution
[08:05] <profoX`> LjL: dont think it can be done in a clean and easy way
[08:05] <LjL> MaKaTiGuY: well, then i don't know where that partition is mounted. you need to find out. type "mount" and paste the line that's relevant to that partition
[08:05] <profoX`> LjL: best solution would be if a certain X server would know wether it needs fglrx or nvidia and then changes the export setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH for that session
[08:05] <profoX`> LjL: I think..?
[08:05] <MaKaTiGuY> LjL: /dev/hda6 on /tmp/disks-conf-hda6 type ntfs (rw)
[08:06] <LjL> profoX`: only thing i can think of, yeah
[08:06] <physicsnick> what's up #ubuntu
[08:06] <MaKaTiGuY> :) got it
[08:06] <MaKaTiGuY> tnnx
[08:06] <physicsnick> supposing i just rmed a file in a terminal
[08:06] <physicsnick> is there a way to undelete it?
[08:06] <LjL> MaKaTiGuY: then type   sudo umount /tmp/disks-conf-hda6
[08:06] <LjL> physicsnick: not really. you can possibly use the "testdisk" package to try to recover something
[08:07] <LjL> physicsnick: there are also two other packages, "e2undel" and "recover", but i think those don't work on ext3
[08:07] <MaKaTiGuY> tnx LjL
[08:08] <jenda> Is there a way to make grep list lines _not_ matching a pattern? Like -L, but not stopping after the first match.
[08:08] <LjL> MaKaTiGuY: to remount somewhere else,   sudo mount /dev/hda6 /somewhere/else
[08:08] <LjL> jenda: -v
[08:08] <fm> hi
[08:08] <jenda> LjL: thx
[08:09] <geniusvicks> I get an error while using xgl! Help
[08:09] <fm> has anyone got the Windows Live Mail advanced interface to work under linux?
[08:09] <LjL> !xgl
[08:09] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:09] <MaKaTiGuY> LjL: ok, tnx
[08:09] <Mouldy> geniusvicks, care to be a little more specific?
[08:09] <geniusvicks> give me the pastebin link
[08:09] <geniusvicks> I'll paste the rrors
[08:09] <LjL> MaKaTiGuY: also, make sure you do not have that entry in your "/etc/fstab" file. if you have it, *remove it*, because mounting anything into /tmp is, as i said, dangerous. very.
[08:10] <LjL> geniusvicks: #ubuntu-xgl is the channel for xgl support
[08:10] <Mouldy> fm, yes, it works fine in firefox if you add ?skipbrowsercheck=true to the URL
[08:10] <MaKaTiGuY> LjL: ok copy
[08:10] <Mouldy> geniusvicks, http://pastebin.ca/
[08:10] <Mouldy> geniusvicks, but as LjL said, the #ubuntu-xgl chan would be better
[08:11] <gilesw> is there a gui for gconf?
[08:11] <geniusvicks> theres no one there
[08:11] <LjL> gilesw: yup, gconf-editor
[08:11] <fm> Mouldy : still basic version... ;(
[08:11] <Mouldy> geniusvicks, There is, they're just a bit slow to reply sometime
[08:11] <gilesw> hrm where abouts is it on the meun system?
[08:11] <fm> Mouldy : whats the url u enter?
[08:11] <gilesw> sorry for being lame..
[08:12] <LjL> geniusvicks: well, then ask here, but remember xgl is experimental, unsupported, and nobody is surprised that it'll give problems...
[08:12] <Mouldy> fm, You need to enable the 'uber' version in the Options. I use "http://by106w.bay106.mail.live.com/mail/mail.aspx?skipbrowsercheck=true" as my URL
[08:12] <LjL> gilesw: perhaps it's not even there (i don't really know, i use KDE). just type "gconf-editor" in a terminal though
[08:12] <gilesw> ya i got that working
[08:12] <gilesw> tx for your help though
[08:14] <kakado> is there an easy way to install 32 bit mplayer on amd64 with apt-get?
[08:14] <fm> Mouldy : I'm sorry I cannot find this option, u mean the edit->preference menu?
[08:16] <Mouldy> fm, 'ang on, brb
[08:16] <utab> hi there
[08:17] <MaKaTiGuY> LjL: im getting error "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "data".
[08:17] <Mayko> hallo, i need some help on change the kdm theme on comand line, anyone know how?
[08:17] <ifrozen> re
[08:17] <MaKaTiGuY> LjL: /data is the location
[08:17] <MaKaTiGuY> LjL: /data is the new location
[08:17] <utab> I am getting some error messages while trying to open a pdf document, actually pdx file is corrupt or not compatible
[08:17] <Mouldy> fm, right, if you load up WLM there should be a link somewhere for "options" in that bit there is another link that says "Choose your mail experience"...that's what I'm on about
[08:17] <Mayko> i'am use the kdm themes  of kde 3.5.4
[08:18] <fm> Mouldy : Ok thx a lot! I gotta go now, thx!
[08:18] <gilesw> can i get osx style widgets?
[08:18] <gilesw> i'd like a stock quote thing for my desktop
[08:18] <Mouldy> gilesw, Try using gdesklets
[08:18] <jhasse> when i start beryl i get: XGL Absent, checking for NVIDIA    Nvidia Present      what does that mean?
[08:18] <pike_> Mayko: you might have better lucck joining kubuntu channel /j kubuntu
[08:18] <LjL> MaKaTiGuY: you either have to use the root account, or mount it with permissions allowing your user to read it. i have dinner ready, though -- ask about mounting with user permissions, or perhaps read ubotu's !mountwindows factoid, it should tell you what to do
[08:18] <Mayko> tanks
[08:19] <geniusvicks> Mouldy: here is the error which I get
[08:19] <MaKaTiGuY> k tnx
[08:19] <cute_bettong> you know i just noticed something really weard with my sound card ubuntu vs windows usage of the sound card.....windows put out true bass through my cheriwn-vega! speakers.....but ubuntu seems to have trouble with tones......is there something im not doing right?
[08:19] <gilesw> ta Mouldy i'll try that
[08:19] <geniusvicks> i915 DRI driver expected DDX version 1-1.5-x but got version 1.4.1
[08:20] <geniusvicks> libGC warning: 3D driver returned no fbconfigs
[08:20] <Mouldy> geniusvicks, What graphics card do you have?
[08:20] <geniusvicks> libGC error: Init Draw failed
[08:20] <geniusvicks> Mouldy: no card
[08:20] <geniusvicks> Mouldy:  onboard
[08:20] <geniusvicks> Mouldy:  Intel
[08:21] <ajtraynor> my ra0 wireless connection is sending loads of packets but is recieving none, why wont it work!
[08:21] <host`> which series of chip?
[08:21] <Mouldy> geniusvicks, Ah sorry, I don't know how you get it working with onboard. There's probably some howtos on the forums or something
[08:21] <geniusvicks> Mouldy: Okay thanks anyway
[08:21] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> hey ive gotta prob
[08:21] <utab> has anyone had problems with acroread and .pdx index files
[08:22] <host`> ajtraynor, are you connected using another device right now?
[08:22] <ajtraynor> why wont m wireless connection work
[08:22] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> im runnin xgl+beryl on an ATI Xpress 200 chipset
[08:22] <ajtraynor> the signal bar is recieving nothing
[08:22] <ajtraynor> bt the connection is activated
[08:22] <host`> ajtraynor, how are you connecting right now?
[08:22] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> my prob is dat i cant make a screenshot usin printscreen on the "take screenshot" option in accessories or thru gimp......the screenshot comes up garbled
[08:23] <cute_bettong> so anyone know why my ubuntu isen't useing my soundblaster live! like windows uses?
[08:23] <clearzen> if I plan on using two ethernet cards on one pc at the same time do I assgin them both the same ip address?
[08:23] <cute_bettong> the tones seem off
[08:23] <ajtraynor> host: im not, i did before perfectly but i installed a newer version
[08:23] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> but screenshots of windws usin alt+printscreen come out fine
[08:23] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> any solution??
[08:23] <ajtraynor> and it wont work, moxilla goes to blank page error
[08:24] <host`> ajtraynor, did you 'dhclient ra0'?
[08:24] <ajtraynor> i dont know what dhclient is>
[08:24] <lisi> I tried to set up a sym link to the FF bookmarks file to share between Ubuntu and XP, but they didn't show up when I opened FF in Ubuntu. so I tried copying the actual file to the Ubuntu partition, still didn't work, so I tried importing the file and then they did show up until i closed down FF and restarted - nothing there
[08:24] <host`> ajtraynor, also I know some people get conflicts when other devices are running, some people have to 'ifdown eth0'
[08:24] <lisi> I tried to set up a sym link to the FF bookmarks file to share between Ubuntu and XP, but they didn't show up when I opened FF in Ubuntu.
[08:24] <lisi> so I tried copying the actual file to the Ubuntu partition, still didn't work, so I tried importing the file and then they did show up until i closed down FF and restarted - nothing there
[08:25] <ajtraynor> so what do i do host?
[08:25] <ajtraynor> do you recon
[08:25] <ajtraynor> im new to ubuntu
[08:25] <host`> try 'dhclient ra0'
[08:25] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> im runnin xgl+beryl on an ATI Xpress 200 chipset.......my prob is dat i cant make a screenshot usin printscreen on the "take screenshot" option in accessories or thru gimp......the screenshot comes up garbled............but screenshots of windws usin alt+printscreen come out fine...any solution??
[08:25] <ajtraynor> how do i try it
[08:25] <host`> that will try to dhcp
[08:25] <host`> in terminal
[08:25] <host`> 'sudo dhclient ra0'
[08:25] <lisi> and BTW the bookmarks show up fine in Xp so i know the file is fine
[08:25] <ajtraynor> and what will that do?
[08:26] <stjepan> when I apt-get source something, patch this app, how to make a .deb?
[08:26] <bayzider> hey i installed a porgram in wine and it is telling me i need the active x browser object installed how do i do that
[08:26] <host`> it should take a min saying something like DHCPREQUEST and DHCPDISCOVER
[08:26] <bayzider> !active x
[08:26] <host`> and it should resolve you an IP address
[08:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about active x - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:26] <stojance> What is the program, possibly daemon that scans Ips or what is going on with the internet on your computer?
[08:26] <ajtraynor> ok, i =ll do that now
[08:26] <stojance>  that is in synaptic
[08:26] <ajtraynor> see ya in 10 mins
[08:27] <bayzider> can some one help me????
[08:27] <lisi> any ideas why I can't even import the bookmarks in Ubuntu? I mean I can, but then they disappear
[08:27] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> im runnin xgl+beryl on an ATI Xpress 200 chipset.......my prob is dat i cant make a screenshot usin printscreen on the "take screenshot" option in accessories or thru gimp......the screenshot comes up garbled............but screenshots of windws usin alt+printscreen come out fine...any solution??
[08:27] <IcemanV9> !repeat > th3_d4r3d3vi1
[08:28] <bayzider> ! Active-X
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Active-X - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <bayzider> !active x
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about active x - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> im runnin xgl+beryl on an ATI Xpress 200 chipset.......my prob is dat i cant make a screenshot usin printscreen on the "take screenshot" option in accessories or thru gimp......the screenshot comes up garbled............but screenshots of windws usin alt+printscreen come out fine...any solution??
[08:28] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> sigh
[08:28] <bayzider> ! mozila
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mozila - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <AbortD> bay rider you trying to get firefox?
[08:29] <lisi> can anyone help me with my bookmarks problem?
[08:29] <AbortD> explain what it is and maybe someone can
[08:29] <bayzider> abortD: no im trying to get active x
[08:29] <lisi> ok, I'
[08:29] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> @iceman.....ny solution?
[08:29] <lisi> OK, I'll repost
[08:29] <AbortD> active x?
[08:29] <bayzider> yes
[08:29] <lisi> I tried to set up a sym link to the FF bookmarks file to share between Ubuntu and XP, but they didn't show up when I opened FF in Ubuntu.
[08:30] <AbortD> what is active x?
[08:30] <IcemanV9> bayzider: in wine, accept the dialog to install active x
[08:30] <lisi> so I tried copying the actual file to the Ubuntu partition, still didn't work, so I tried importing the file and then they did show up until i closed down FF and restarted - nothing there
[08:30] <bayzider> i did and nothing happened
[08:30] <IcemanV9> th3_d4r3d3vi1: no idea on beryl stuff .. sorry
[08:30] <AbortD> are they hidden lisi?
[08:30] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> :(
[08:30] <bayzider> any thing i have to go in a few secondes
[08:30] <IcemanV9> bayzider: restart the fx in wine?
[08:30] <stjepan> can I make a backup copy of my system and then restore it? I made tar.gz archive of my previous system. Then I formatted partitions. How to restore???
[08:30] <bayzider> ok i have to go
[08:31] <lisi> what do you mean hidden? the bookmarks folder is empty
[08:31] <AbortD> hm
[08:31] <host`> do ls -al
[08:32] <nahoj> wich kernel should I use to my Pentium M cpu?
[08:32] <IcemanV9> th3_d4r3d3vi1: check out at ubuntuforums - i am sure there are many threads on beryl & xgl stuffs
[08:32] <phaedrus44> ello
[08:32] <IcemanV9> nahoj: linux-686
[08:33] <nahoj> IcemanV9, not the generic??
[08:33] <nahoj> Im on edgy
[08:33] <lisi> hm, I did more bookmarks.html and there is content in the file - why does it not show in the browser?
[08:33] <IcemanV9> nahoj: yes. it's the same. i don't know why they named it to generic
[08:33] <host`> .wiki the forrest
[08:34] <nahoj> IcemanV9, ok, thx!!
[08:34] <host`> err. wrong channel
[08:35] <bieb_work> Hey Seveas
[08:35] <vortexoptics> Anyone know anything about installing ubuntu no a nforce "hardware" RAID(even though it's not true hardware RAID).  Is there anyway to make ubuntu see it as one drive?  My ubuntu install see's it as 4 seperate drives.
[08:36] <lisi> anyone got an idea?
[08:36] <vortexoptics> There isn't a whole lot of information on installing onto a hardware raid.  You'd think more people would want to do it
[08:36] <IcemanV9> !raid > vortexoptics
[08:36] <vortexoptics> hmm
[08:37] <vortexoptics> clever
[08:37] <jake> I have a NTFS partition I would like to shrink by about 10 Gigs so I can fit Ubuntu on the drive - Is it possible to do that in the setup?
[08:37] <Seveas> hey bieb_work
[08:37] <scribbles_> when I use wget I get Error parsing proxy URL http://:8080/: Invalid host name.
[08:37] <scribbles_> , is there a setting thats causing it to use a proxy?
[08:37] <pike_> jake: yes but i would backup any important stuff first
[08:38] <jake> pike_: So, how unsafe is it?
[08:38] <esj> jake: I've used PartitionMagic to do that
[08:38] <host`> it's about 99.9999% safe
[08:38] <esj> it's been pretty reliable.  I think I screwed it up once
[08:38] <pike_> jake: ive used commercial products like partition magic but never gparted so im not sure
[08:38] <phaedrus44> ello...when i do   lspci -v  i read that i have a broadcom wireless device in my laptop 4311 I believe.   But when i go to hp website to get the driver for ndiswrapper the site reports it is an intel driver....i tried to use it with ndiswrapper but no dice.....what should i do?
[08:38] <esj> but once was enough to go ouch
[08:38] <TheGateKeeper> jake: I would be tempted to backup then use gparted livecd
[08:38] <host`> I use partition magic myself, It's my prefered method
[08:38] <jake> I have partitionmagic installed but it doesn't work very well - when i do the changes and reboot for them to take effect i just come back into windows and all partitions are like they were before
[08:38] <cherubiel> jake: get the gparted live cd
[08:39] <IcemanV9> jake: desktop CD can do it when you install; however backup your important data 1st - i have done it a few times, no problem (for me, at least)
[08:39] <cherubiel> jake: its non destrucive and works like a charm
[08:39] <Otacon22> fuck that fucking rule.. for the first time that i use an away message for mistake you kik me? fuck
[08:39] <IcemanV9> !language > Otacon22
[08:39] <stjepan> I apt-get sourced sources of gtk2.10... I want to patch it
[08:39] <stjepan> what directory? where's the source?
[08:40] <cherubiel> scribbles_: unset HTTP_PROXY
[08:40] <IcemanV9> too late :)
[08:40] <cherubiel> scribbles_: run that first and then run the wget
[08:40] <esj>  anyone know where I can find the data store behind the network settings applet?
[08:40] <scribbles> excellent, thank you Cherubiel
[08:40] <esj> It thinks that I have a et
[08:40] <esj> eth2
[08:41] <stephans> what is teh best space to talk about ubuntu-server?
[08:41] <Seveas> #ubuntu-server or here
[08:41] <jake> Any idea what might be wrong? I've googled for it but haven't found anything so far... =/
[08:41] <vipernicus> having problems with latest edgy beta
[08:41] <vipernicus> X doesn't start
[08:41] <jrib> vipernicus: #ubuntu+1
[08:41] <TheGateKeeper> jake for what?
[08:41] <segfault_> vipernicus, ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:42] <jake> For partitionmagic, look a few lines up. =)
[08:42] <avagant> Why are people even using the edgy beta if it isn't fully finished yet?
[08:42] <tarzeau> avagant: impatient maybe/
[08:42] <avagant> I don't understand the reasoning.
[08:42] <esj> Jake: you mean the problem with it appears to make changes but on reboot it hasn't?
[08:42] <IcemanV9> avagant: beta = test it out :)
[08:42] <tarzeau> avagant: boredom?
[08:42] <jake> esj: exactly
[08:42] <avagant> beta=lots of problems?
[08:42] <tarzeau> avagant: oviously what they have isn't good enough
[08:42] <esj> Isn't there a commit option at the end of the process?
[08:42] <ajtraynor> HOST
[08:42] <tarzeau> avagant: not necessarily
[08:43] <TheGateKeeper> jake: here you go: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[08:43] <tarzeau> avagant: i've seen fantastic beta products, and horrible final products
[08:43] <badkitty> Anyone know how to get wireless drivers working with the native linux drivers???
[08:43] <jake> esj: Yes, and it asks me to reboot to make the changes, but nothing happens when i reboot
[08:43] <avagant> tarzeau: I've read people say they've had nothing but problems.
[08:43] <fdsd> hey guys, how do I turn off kernel messages in the console? for example I have a firewire harddrive when I plug it in and I am on the console it spits all this dmesg info on the screen.. how do I disable that?
[08:43] <tarzeau> avagant: using ubuntu?
[08:43] <avagant> tarzeau: Edgy ubuntu yah.
[08:43] <esj> Very weird.
[08:43] <host`> ajtraynor,?
[08:43] <avagant> tarzeau: I've got dapper and fight enough with that, I don't need something else to make it worse. :)
[08:44] <badkitty> lol
[08:44] <tarzeau> avagant: i don't know. i just have a local friend that is having problems with the stable releases, yet keeps using it
[08:44] <tarzeau> avagant: i'm happy with debian sid (since 7 years now)
[08:44] <esj> It's been a while since I have used it.  Is this a multistage process where you boot the same CD a couple times or is it a let it run, pop out the CD before reboot kind of deal
[08:44] <fdsd> anyone know?
[08:44] <avagant> tarzeau: I want something that has a little more sound stability.
[08:44] <esj> but as other folks have pointed out, the live CD with gparted may be your best bet
[08:44] <tarzeau> avagant: linux alsa with 2.6?
[08:45] <tarzeau> avagant: what's the problem? it's fine stable for me
[08:45] <esj> the gatekeeper has given you a URL which is what I would go with right now
[08:45] <avagant> tarzeau: This time it's working fine, but I don't know if maybe I'm just lucky so far.
[08:45] <badkitty> yah is someoine having a hard drive problem?
[08:45] <avagant> tarzeau: I can't play more than one sound at once, well for some reason this reinstall I can.
[08:45] <jake> esj: The thing is I really don't want to waste a CD if I don't have to... I only have two or so left :p
[08:45] <avagant> tarzeau: But I've fought with this for just about forever.
[08:45] <esj> are they really that precious?
[08:45] <amukanuk> ls
[08:45] <cherubiel> !esd
[08:45] <ubotu> esd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead
[08:46] <badkitty> lol
[08:46] <fdsd> anyone know?
[08:46] <jake> esj: Well, I want to get linux installed and running today... :P
[08:46] <badkitty> Anyone know how to get the native linux wireless drivers working for a wireless lan card?
[08:46] <esj> Or am I just being an idiot American who can purchase CDs on every street corner with a bag of crack for free
[08:46] <fdsd> hey guys, how do I turn off kernel messages in the console? for example I have a firewire harddrive when I plug it in and I am on the console it spits all this dmesg info on the screen.. how do I disable that?
[08:46] <beko_> hi there, anybody can help with UMTS mobil
[08:46] <beko_> ?
[08:46] <avagant> I don't know what version of alsa I have, or if it comes with dmix or dsnoop and i don't want to mess with anything to screw it up again.
[08:47] <IcemanV9> fdsd: switch to alt+f2 .. you won't see any dmesg message
[08:47] <avagant> I did that .asoundrc thing and tried using aplay and esd and it gave me nothing but error messages so i'm not going to mess with it.
[08:47] <fdsd> IcemanV9, cant
[08:47] <esj> Jake: my suggestion, being not very bright, would be to burn the CD, start the conversion, and then run out to the all night market and get a five pack.  It'll be expensive but you can do it tonight.
[08:47] <jake> esj: Nope, I'm Swedish and they are cheaper then candy... However, the stores are closed now and I don't want to wait until tomorrow :P
[08:48] <IcemanV9> fdsd: ?? cannot? why?
[08:48] <esj> Three of my four grandparents were Swedish so no wonder I recognize your stubborn streak.  :-)
[08:48] <fdsd> IcemanV9, my script starts in tty1
[08:48] <avagant> I guess I should just bare the burden of one sound object at a time for now.
[08:49] <esj> it's been long enough since I last used PartitionMagic that I really can't remember all of its strange corners
[08:49] <avagant> Coming from a Windows machine with no sound at all (wrong drivers perhaps?) I guess I should feel lucky.
[08:49] <IcemanV9> fdsd: ah. dunno if you can turn it off .. i couldn't figure it out myself as well. so i just simply switch over to tty2 and it works.
[08:49] <jake> esj: Hahaha :P Well, I just going to burn it anyway - I probably have like 20 or so CDs somewhere in my closet anyway :p
[08:49] <esj> I can't shake the feeling that somehow you are getting into a test mode and it's only simulating the copy
[08:49] <siva> I need help on Unichrome drivers.  can I contact any one in personal chat..
[08:49] <jake> Thank you by the way =)
[08:50] <xulund> hi.. how do i remove xfce  window manager? i want to run server only on 1 machine..
[08:50] <esj> well then, get to it
[08:50] <darrend> hi guys.  Is there a way to do a net install of ubuntu (server edition if that makes any difference)?  The machine I want to install on has a broken CD drive and it's very awkward to reach (so I'd prefer not to have to in order to put a new one in!)
[08:50] <fdsd> IcemanV9, I wasnt aware that tty2 didnt do that, thanks for the info, but I still need to disable it off tty1
[08:50] <siva> I need help on Unichrome drivers.
[08:51] <abhinay> the kernel 2.6.18 version compatable with the ubuntu dapper ? can i run on it ?
[08:51] <ajtraynor> HOST
[08:52] <ajtraynor> UBUntu wireless connection wont work? anyone got any ideas
[08:52] <ajtraynor> i set it up DHCP, ASCII WPA, ssid NETGEAR
[08:53] <host`> ajtraynor, what type of adapter do you have?
[08:53] <siva> OpenChrome web is not functioning for ubuntu binaries..
[08:53] <jbinder> hi
[08:53] <jake> Quick question about GParted - Does it support NTFS? I don't see anything about it on the site...
[08:53] <jbinder> jake: it does
[08:53] <cherubiel> jake: it does!
[08:53] <jake> Great, thanks =)
[08:54] <jbinder> cherubiel: are you a noob like the rest of the people in here, or do you have a brain?
[08:54] <ajtraynor> host, i have a RALINK RT2500 wireless card
[08:54] <jbinder> like me
[08:54] <cherubiel> jbinder: think what you want.
[08:54] <host`> ajtraynor, is it usb?
[08:54] <jbinder> meh
[08:54] <ajtraynor> and it worked before on a different version of ubuntu
[08:54] <ajtraynor> brezzy badger
[08:54] <jbinder> some people ask idiotic questions in here
[08:54] <erUSUL> !edgy
[08:55] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[08:55] <ajtraynor> no, its built in
[08:55] <cherubiel> its not reality thats importnt, but how you percieve things ;)
[08:55] <ajtraynor> the router is ethernet
[08:55] <jbinder> !schedule
[08:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[08:55] <buzzy> please suggest me a download accelerator..
[08:55] <host`> try using ndiswrapper if you can't get a dhclient resolve
[08:55] <cherubiel> ajtraynor: run iwconfig
[08:55] <buzzy> !download accelerator
[08:55] <ajtraynor> whats a ndiswrapper
[08:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about download accelerator - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:55] <segfault_> ajtraynor, i dont have one, but did an install for someone with one and it worked fine
[08:55] <host`> ajtraynor, do this first
[08:55] <fdsd> hey guys, I am customizing the ubuntu livecd for my school, we are going to use it for data recovery, I have a shell script that starts on tty1, but its really annoying because dmesg messages keep interupting the script, how do I turn that off?
[08:55] <ajtraynor> ok
[08:55] <cherubiel> ajtraynor: that shows if you've got the drivers instlled
[08:56] <siva> ?? Via S3G Unichrome Pro IGP Drivers ??
[08:56] <ajtraynor> ah right
[08:56] <ajtraynor> how do i do this
[08:56] <cherubiel> ajtraynor:open up a terminal and issue iwconfig
[08:56] <host`> 'sudo iwlist ra0 scan' you should see possible netowrks you can connect to
[08:56] <cherubiel> once you have the drivers installed, do what host` says :)
[08:57] <host`> then 'sudo iwconfig ra0 essid (essid)
[08:57] <jbinder> is this card pcmcia or pci
[08:57] <host`> then if you have a WEP encryption you'll have to type 'sudo iwconfig key (code)
[08:58] <host`> er.. 'sudo iwconfig ra0 key (code)' one of those
[08:58] <ajtraynor> i hope this works
[08:58] <host`> then
[08:58] <m0biu5> anyone here have any luck with xinerama?
[08:58] <host`> dhclient ra0
[08:58] <ajtraynor> its fairly irritating that i cant get it working
[08:58] <MikeyMike> A small plane has crashed into a building in New York City. No further details immediately available.
[08:58] <MikeyMike> woops
[08:58] <cherubiel> whoa!
[08:58] <host`> it's a pain in the neck, if that doesn't work there are still more options
[08:58] <MikeyMike> yeah
[08:58] <MikeyMike> turn on CNN
[08:59] <MikeyMike> www.cnn.com
[08:59] <cherubiel> !wireless > ajtraynor
[08:59] <host`> ajtraynor, hold on a sec befor eyou go
[08:59] <ajtraynor> ok
[08:59] <lisi> ok, i guess if no one can help - I'll go back to Googling - not sure what else to look up though :(
[08:59] <jbinder> october 26th
[09:01] <jbinder> hi
[09:01] <host`> ajtraynor, go here, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926&highlight=howto+ndiswrapper
[09:01] <ajtraynor> host when i did the dhclient it somethign about SLEEPING
[09:01] <matid> Does anyone know why Firefox renders fonts differently? They're inconsistant with the rest of the desktop... Edgy here
[09:01] <host`> ajtraynor, do everything from step 7 down first, then if it doesn't work, try doing all of it
[09:02] <host`> ajtraynor, that means it didn't detect the netowork you were trying to connect to, it's possible that just setting the essid that it talks about in step 7 of that will fix that
[09:02] <host`> ajtraynor, if you don't know the essid, then you can do the 'iwlist ra0 scan'
[09:02] <m0biu5> does anyone know how i can set the function keys on my laptop
[09:02] <jbinder> yeah
[09:03] <jbinder> oh
[09:03] <jbinder> yeah
[09:03] <jbinder> m0biu5: xbindkeys
[09:03] <jbinder> m0biu5: sudo apt-get install xbindkeys
[09:03] <m0biu5> jbinder, yeah, on my way..
[09:04] <jbinder> k
[09:04] <jake> How much space is needed for Ubuntu? Will 5000MiB be enough?
[09:04] <bbrazil> jake: yes
[09:04] <jbinder> jake: yes
[09:04] <jake> Thanks
[09:04] <ajtraynor> thanks host
[09:04] <ajtraynor> ill do that now
[09:05] <jbinder> m0biu5: once that's done, do xbindkeys -k
[09:05] <m0biu5> jbinder, i downloaded i810switch to enable vga out on my laptop.. all my other function keys work fine.. ijust need to run i810rotate when i hit fn+f8...
[09:06] <SilentDissonance> a bit of an odd question... is it possible to create a 'custom' Synaptic repository from the packages i've already downloaded?  I wish to do a reinstall of ubuntu so I can set it up with a more logical partition setup :P
[09:06] <ricanelite> does anyone know this error message and what can I do to fix it? Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError : main/jnlp
[09:06] <jbinder> m0biu5: easy
[09:06] <m0biu5> jbinder: i just don't want it to end up overwriting the working keys...
[09:07] <jbinder> yea
[09:07] <directhex> something's broken my laptop edgy install - the permissions on /dev/null are screwy (only root can read/write to it, which breaks many things)
[09:07] <jbinder> directhex: sudo chmod 777 /dev/null -r
[09:08] <ricanelite> can someone help me please?
[09:08] <directhex> jbinder, great. and on the next reboot, given /dev/null is created by udev?
[09:08] <jbinder> should be
[09:08] <jbinder> ricanelite: whats the problem
[09:08] <cherubiel> ricanelite: ##ava
[09:08] <cherubiel> ricanelite: ##java
[09:09] <ricanelite> when I try to open up a Application I use for work which is a .jnlp file it starts to open up and then it closes up in aother words does not do nothing so i went to terminal and type in java "filename" and i got this error message
[09:09] <ricanelite> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError : main/jnlp
[09:09] <esj> weird problem with networking. eth0 and 1 are seen at boot time but the control panel sees only eth1 and 2.
[09:09] <directhex> ricanelite, using which java?
[09:10] <ricanelite> as in version? java 1.5
[09:10] <esj> I can't find out where ETH 2 is referenced by the control panel
[09:10] <jbinder> esj: hmm
[09:10] <jbinder> dapper?
[09:10] <ricanelite> i think 6
[09:10] <jbinder> esj: dapper?
[09:10] <esj> yes.  It's in dapper
[09:10] <jbinder> k
[09:10] <jbinder> hmm
[09:10] <jbinder> esj: why does it matter, what are you trying to do?
[09:11] <esj> hold on bt head set problems
[09:11] <jbinder> k
[09:11] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> hey.im running xgl/beryl on an ATI Xpress 200 based pc with ATI drivers. My prob is da screenshot taken usin the "take screenshot" option in accessories or by pressin printscreen or thru acquire in GIMP appears garbled..screenshots of a single open window taken using alt+print screen appear fine.........im VERY new to ubuntu...any solution to this?
[09:12] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> ??
[09:13] <ricanelite> how do i login into the IRC chat?
[09:13] <jbinder> ricanelite: what chat
[09:13] <ricanelite> this one
[09:13] <jbinder> you mean identify?
[09:13] <ricanelite> yeah
[09:14] <bieb_work> Hey Seveas, sorry about that.. got pulled away
[09:14] <ricanelite> sorry
[09:14] <esj> ohh, bt is wigged out again and noe I need to reboot.  bbs
[09:14] <meatface> howdy all
[09:14] <jbinder>  /msg nickserv identify <passwd>
[09:14] <pike_> ricanelite: /msg nickserv help    also
[09:14] <ricanelite> okay thank you
[09:14] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> nybody got a solution to my prob??
[09:15] <jbinder> th3_d4r3d3vi1: no... go to #ati?
[09:15] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> okie
[09:15] <SeanTater> meatface: hello
[09:16] <bon> how do i search file names using grep
[09:16] <meatface> SeanTater: what's shakin?
[09:16] <KenSentMe> bon: ls /dir | grep word
[09:16] <bon> cool thanks
[09:16] <SeanTater> meatface: I just realized that kde 3.5.5 was releases a few hours ago
[09:17] <meatface> I guess that's ok if you are into kde
[09:18] <meatface> I always used kde when I was running Mandrake, but then along came ubuntu
[09:18] <meatface> SeanTater: Is there anything new and exciting in this release?
[09:19] <unimatrix9> kubuntu!
[09:19] <meatface> SeanTater: Does that mean that you are running Kubuntu? And is so, what do you find better about Kubuntu than a standard ubuntu release?
[09:20] <es1> sorry about that
[09:21] <es1> every so often Windows Bluetooth loses its bloody mind, crams a bunch of noise down the audio channel and speech recognition turns its toast to the sky and fails
[09:21] <m0biu5> jbinder, i am not having any luck capturing fn keystrokes
[09:22] <jbinder> m0biu5: whats happening
[09:22] <m0biu5> jbinder, if i run just -k to capture any key.. pressing Fn doesn't yeild anything
[09:22] <es1> let's see, where was I.  Yes, someone had asked me why I cared about my network interfaces be ETH one and ETH two
[09:22] <jbinder> m0biu5: you pushed f8?
[09:23] <m0biu5> jbinder, if i press f8 by itself, that works..
[09:23] <es1> the reason is, ETH two was failing to acquire all the information from DHCP properly.  For example, I did not have a DNS entry
[09:23] <m0biu5> jbinder, but using fn+f8 doesn't work..
[09:23] <jbinder> oh
[09:23] <jbinder> m0biu5: xbindkeys -mk
[09:23] <jbinder> try that
[09:23] <es1> I think it's also a problem because the kernel sees ETH 0 and not ETH 2
[09:23] <m0biu5> jbinder, did that
[09:23] <m0biu5> jbinder, i can
[09:23] <meatface> 
[09:23] <es1> so I'm trying to figure out why the disconnect
[09:23] <m0biu5> 't capture fn by itself
[09:24] <BiSk-8> hello, i need a program to extract a dvd into video files onto my pc, any ideas?
[09:24] <Goomie> Is there a location that has SCSI/RAID drivers for ubuntu?
[09:24] <ajtraynor> HOST, that didnt do anythign
[09:24] <bon> KenSentMe, i need to search all files on my computer not just the current direcotory
[09:24] <LuisMendes> will the final version of 6.10 include linux kernel 2.18?
[09:24] <es1> doesn't the divix project to something like that?  Or is it just compression codecs
[09:24] <LuisMendes> 2.6.18***
[09:24] <ajtraynor> it justgave details of the connection , such as frequecy, noise, DB
[09:24] <hoelk> any automatic way to remove duplicate repositories from sources.lst?
[09:24] <nickspoon> bon: find
[09:25] <pike_> BiSk-8: cat ? :)
[09:25] <stiz> i cannot seem to unshare folders in 6.10
[09:25] <host`> what?
[09:25] <Goomie> bon: or you can use locate
[09:25] <host`> iwconfig did?
[09:25] <BiSk-8> pike_ i'll try thx
[09:25] <m0biu5> jbinder, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=471983&postcount=4
[09:25] <ajtraynor> iwconfig just gave out details of ra0 connection
[09:25] <host`> just iwconfig alone will
[09:25] <bon> nickspoon, ha ok
[09:25] <pike_> BiSk-8: they will be pretty big you might try dvdbackup or dvdrip
[09:25] <IcemanV9> LuisMendes: i don't think so. -17 would be the default, i believe
[09:25] <pike_> instead
[09:26] <salkot> I'm trying to install a D-Link 2330 on an old Toshiba laptop, and the card is the supposedly supported Atheros 5212 chipset. The operating system seems to detect it ok, but whenever I go to "Properties" for ath0 in the network-admin, the system TOTALLY FREEZES. What can I try??
[09:26] <LuisMendes> IcemanV9, thanks
[09:26] <ajtraynor> host i think ill give up for the moment
[09:26] <pike_> BiSk-8: cat would just be to make an iso like cat /dev/dvd > /home/username/file.iso
[09:26] <ajtraynor> its awful annoying
[09:26] <BiSk-8> ah pike_ no thx then
[09:27] <stiz> everytime i go 2 shared folders and remove folders, close it, open it back up.... there still shared, cannot remove shared folders, any suggestions?
[09:27] <IcemanV9> salkot: try to do it in the terminal instead of using GUI since it'll freezes the system
[09:27] <meatface> BiSk-8 try acid rip or thoggen
[09:27] <Goomie> stiz: a samba share?
[09:28] <stiz> some samba some unix
[09:28] <BiSk-8> im downloading dvdrip pike, meatface.. is that ok?
[09:28] <salkot> IcemanV9, I have tried that too -- even just running dhclient freezes the system!
[09:28] <salkot> I can't ctrl-c or move the mouse.
[09:29] <jbinder> wtf
[09:29] <pike_> BiSk-8: youll want to try a few id download the ones meatface recommended as well
[09:29] <stiz> Goomie: samba and nfs, both wont remove, is there a config file i can edit 4 this?
[09:29] <Goomie> stiz: well for those samba shares you can go into /etc/samba/smb.conf and remove the entrys
[09:30] <stiz> thanx
[09:30] <BiSk-8> pike_ what i want is just a few video files... is that possibile?
[09:30] <es1> jbinder: that freezing phenomenon happens whenever ubuntu is waiting for certain types of network traffic
[09:30] <sIDR_> Hey, does anyone know how to get Flash to play in sync in Epiphany? I'm on Edgy.
[09:30] <Goomie> stiz: as for the nfs i believe those are in the /etc/exports
[09:30] <stiz> thank you Goomie
[09:30] <salkot> es1, are you talking to me?
[09:30] <es1> I've been puzzled by that before but if I wait something like 30 to 60 seconds, the system usually comes back
[09:30] <es1> sorry, yes.  I typed the wrong name
[09:30] <m0biu5> jbinder, not getting anywhere, any thoughts?
[09:30] <IcemanV9> salkot: it happened to me before with ath0 (d-link dwl-g650) .. did you boot your box with the card installed? if so, try to boot it without first, then insert the card
[09:30] <trex37> where should I go for networking help?
[09:30] <salkot> ok
[09:30] <jbinder> m0biu5: meh... i dont know
[09:30] <jbinder> odd
[09:31] <Goomie> stiz: there might even be fstab entrys too, not sure how u have them set up
[09:31] <Subhuman> sIDR_, its to do with the newest flash player, you jus going to have t owait till flash 9
[09:31] <es1> if I've been following, you're trying to deal with wireless networking issues?
[09:31] <m0biu5> jbinder, thanks for your help anyways.. you wouldn't be familiar with xinerama would you? =)
[09:31] <es1> Or have I gotten confused again
[09:31] <salkot> es1, that's right
[09:31] <pike_> BiSk-8: you can do alot of stuff its just that some of the tools are complicated.  some are just frontends and pretty easy i havent fooled with it much under linux
[09:31] <Goomie> stiz: is the samba and nfs shares on your machine?
[09:31] <jbinder> nope
[09:31] <es1> so you lock up every time the system tries to do a DHCP request or anything on the network
[09:31] <stiz> Goomie: yes my machine, not from other machines
[09:31] <salkot> IcemanV9, es1: I'll try giving it another minute to unfreeze, then restart
[09:31] <salkot> es1, not exactly -- it can do eth0 just fine, it's just this wireless card
[09:32] <es1> sorry, I was assuming only one network interface.
[09:32] <BiSk-8> pike_ ok ty, if i need help i know who to ask
[09:32] <salkot> would it be a problem if eth0 was up and I tried to bring ath0 up?
[09:32] <es1> I have had problems with both ethernet and wireless active at the same time
[09:32] <Goomie> stiz: the samba entrys should be towards the end of the file
[09:32] <nicodarious> hey all, anyone know if there's some kind of CSS decoder for Ubuntu so i can play my CSS encoded DVDs?
[09:32] <es1> there is a fight over who gets to be the default route especially if both are DHCP
[09:32] <Goomie> stiz: and ive worked very little with nfs but i know they use the exports file
[09:32] <es1> try disabling ETH zero
[09:33] <sidny4> !dvd
[09:33] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:33] <IcemanV9> it should not, but in case, disable one of those like es1 said
[09:33] <salkot> Ok
[09:33] <salkot> IcemanV9, after that I
[09:33] <salkot> er..I'll try sticking it in after boot
[09:34] <nicodarious> ubotu: thanks  i'll check them out.  (don't know why i couldn't find those on goodle/linux though, but oh well.)
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks  i'll check them out.  (don't know why i couldn't find those on goodle/linux though, but oh well.) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:34] <unimatrix9> hi there, if ubuntu freezes, and hard reboot the system, should it not check the file system at boot?
[09:34] <sIDR_> So there's no way of getting Flash to play properly until Flash 9? I remember I had it working reasonably well a month or two ago...
[09:34] <tuxtux> ciao a tutti
[09:35] <es1> unimatrix9: sometimes but not always necessary if you use a journaling filesystem
[09:35] <compilerwriter> Hello all I am a newbie that needs someone to take pity on me and help me mount a floppy drive.  I keep screwing something up.
[09:35] <es1> you should be given an option to do a filesystem check if you are really fast on the keyboard.  I think the timeout is five seconds give or take
[09:35] <unimatrix9> i think it default installs ext2?
[09:35] <sidny4> ext3 isn't it?
[09:35] <es1> EXT3
[09:35] <Justy-> hello
[09:35] <es1> so you should be all set
[09:35] <kmaynard> gaaaah...finding an ldap manager sucks
[09:35] <salkot> Nope -- disabling eth0 first didn't help -- it's frozen again
[09:35] <Goomie> compilerwriter: i think it auto mounts it in /media/floppy
[09:35] <unimatrix9> okay how can icheck that?
[09:36] <kmaynard> and i refuse to navigate it by hand *cringe*
[09:36] <es1> salkot: don't despair.  It may still be misconfigured
[09:36] <anon32> aside from ext3, could someone recommend a filesystem for a 65GB partition with somewhat important data on it?
[09:36] <es1> anon32: multiple partitions, raid array
[09:36] <unimatrix9> on the shell how to get info on file system...free?
[09:36] <meatface> BisK-8 the programs I mentioned you can find in the package manager if you check off unsupported and commercial applications
[09:36] <cherubiel> unimatrix9: df -h
[09:36] <Justy-> Hello I was following those steps: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560 . And at first step i did this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26350/ and I got that error on pastebin. Can anyone help me solving that problem?
[09:36] <anon32> esl, yes... and a file system is not either of those
[09:37] <sidny4> anybody know what exactly LVM is?
[09:37] <KenSentMe> !lvm
[09:37] <fdoving> lvm > sidny4
[09:37] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[09:37] <es1> anon32: yes you are right that they are not a filesystem but if they are there, under your filesystem, you can sleep at night
[09:37] <compilerwriter> goomie If it automounted then I should be able to just put a blasted floppy in the drive should I not?
[09:37] <unimatrix9> df -h does not show filesystem type
[09:37] <anon32> esl, yes... but that doesn't answer my question
[09:37] <salkot> IcemanV9, I'm going to try your suggestion of putting it in after boot. What should I check before and after I stick it in?
[09:37] <anon32> I still want a recommendation for a FS tupe
[09:38] <anon32> type*
[09:38] <compilerwriter> I have read somewhere that there must be a mount point, but am unsure how to check if that is present.
[09:38] <pike_> anon32: for?
[09:38] <sleepster> For some reason, I am using a USB mouse and the mouse keeps freezing
[09:38] <es1> true: I think probably I would look at something like XFS which has a reputation for being good with large volumes of large files
[09:38] <pike_> compilerwriter: any directory can be mounted to
[09:38] <anon32> pike_, a generic 65GB partition that's getting more and more full by the second
[09:38] <IcemanV9> salkot: after insert the card, sudo dhclient ath0
[09:38] <compilerwriter> Someone pointed me to an fstab hack that would allow anyone to mount and unmount a floppy so that if I put in the disk my wife could take it out.
[09:38] <sykes^> !nvidia
[09:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:38] <anon32> es1, how's the XFS support in Ubuntu, compared with performance?
[09:39] <Goomie> compilerwriter: sudo mount /dev/fd /mnt/floppy , assuming its on that
[09:39] <IcemanV9> salkot: it should work without a problem (it did in my case)
[09:39] <es1> to be honest, I've never used it.  And the last time I saw performance comparisons, it was pretty good
[09:39] <es1> somebody did a performance comparison within the past six months but unfortunately, I don't have that data at hand
[09:39] <anon32> ok... anyone in here have any reasons why I shouldn't use XFS and Ubuntu together?
[09:39] <salkot> IcemanV9, "No such device"
[09:39] <cherubiel> compilerwriter: check out mdir, mcopy
[09:40] <grogoreo> is there any way to open new Adobe Illustrator files in Inkscape?
[09:40] <CromagDK> quick question how long does it take to fsck a device or does that depend on the size ?
[09:40] <Subhuman> grogoreo, there are converters on the net.
[09:40] <IcemanV9> salkot: sudo ifconfig ath0 up; sudo dhclient ath0
[09:40] <Goomie> compilewriter: did you just install ubuntu dapper?
[09:40] <salkot> ifconfig sez: "ath0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device"
[09:40] <compilerwriter> Goomie I just installed 6.01 a few weeks ago.
[09:40] <Justy-> Hello again, I was following those steps: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560 . And at first step i did this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26350/ and I got that error on pastebin. Can anyone help me solving that problem?
[09:41] <compilerwriter> I have never needed to use a floppy until today.
[09:41] <grogoreo> Subhuman: do you know of any yourself?
[09:41] <sleepster> Anyone know of this problem?  I hooked up my USB mouse, and it freezes every 20 or so seconds.. and then it works fine
[09:41] <salkot> IcemanV9, it didn't autodetect for some reason
[09:41] <IcemanV9> salkot: ?? interesting.
[09:41] <w30> compilerwriter, man fstab check out the user option
[09:41] <IcemanV9> salkot: take it out and reinsert it again
[09:42] <compilerwriter> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[09:42] <compilerwriter> #
[09:42] <compilerwriter> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[09:42] <compilerwriter> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[09:42] <compilerwriter> /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[09:42] <compilerwriter> /dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[09:42] <compilerwriter> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[09:42] <compilerwriter> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto rw,users,noauto,fmask=111,dmask=000  0   0
[09:42] <cherubiel> !paste
[09:42] <sidny4> compilerwriter, 6.06 is the latest stable release, you might want to try using that and see the problem has been fixed
[09:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:42] <anon32> kickban
[09:42] <Goomie> compilewriter: if you want to make it so anyone can mount and umount floppy add this line to fstab, /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto user,defaults,noauto 0 0
[09:42] <sleepster> Anyone know of this problem?  I hooked up my USB mouse, and it freezes every 20 or so seconds.. and then it works fine
[09:42] <compilerwriter> That is my /etc/fstab .
[09:42] <salkot> IcemanV9, same problem
[09:42] <IcemanV9> salkot: dmesg |grep ath0
[09:43] <kosnick> i need an application that messures the download rate . Any help?
[09:43] <black_13> is there a guide to building the kernel for ubuntu?
[09:43] <anon32> kosnick, run network-admin
[09:43] <IcemanV9> salkot: ifconfig .. what does it said? eth0? eth1? ath0? (don't paste it here :)
[09:43] <anon32> it'll tell you your data transfer rate overall
[09:43] <pecisk> sleepster: it happens, seems like USB controller is not supported correctly
[09:43] <salkot> Ok, I get two messages at the end that say "ath_attach: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware didn't respond as expected' (HAL status 3)"
[09:43] <kosnick> anon32 : thx
[09:43] <compilerwriter> I did a major update after I intstalled.  I may be running 6.06, but I am not sure.
[09:44] <pike_> !kernel > black_13
[09:44] <sleepster> peciks so is there a way to fix it?
[09:44] <black_13> !kernel
[09:44] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:44] <salkot> IcemanV9, should I paste all the results?
[09:44] <IcemanV9> salkot: okay. that helps a lot. hold on.
[09:44] <compilerwriter> It appears that I am running 6.06 LTS these days.
[09:44] <pecisk> sleepster: I fixed it by using PS/2 mouse
[09:45] <kosnick> anon32 : i meant the rate while downloading (realtime). i can't find something like it in the network-admin
[09:45] <pecisk> sleepster: after half a year and several major kernel upgrades, USB worked without gliches
[09:45] <sleepster> thanks pecisk, but unfortunately I only have a usb controller
[09:45] <pecisk> sleepster: damn, that's not good
[09:45] <anon32> kosnick, there's no way to have a "real-time" download rate
[09:45] <Razor-> does anyone know how to change the sounds on gaim
[09:45] <Goomie> compilerwriter: when you try and mount the floppy do u get an erro?
[09:45] <pecisk> sleepster: you should get dmesg
[09:45] <anon32> quick science lecture - speed = distance/time
[09:45] <salkot> es1, do you have any more ideas by the way?
[09:46] <compilerwriter> I have looked at the /media directory and has cdrom and cdrom0 entrys.
[09:46] <Goomie> comilerwriter: error*
[09:46] <pecisk> and check out what is happening there
[09:46] <anon32> all speeds have to be calculated with reference to time
[09:46] <compilerwriter> I am unsure quite the syntax to use.
[09:46] <es1> unfortunately I don't.
[09:46] <Goomie> compilerwriter: mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[09:47] <kosnick> anon32 : maybe i didn't say it right, well i want to know what is the speed of downloading when i download sth.
[09:47] <es1> The only thing I can think of is maybe using ndiswrapper as an interim solution
[09:47] <compilerwriter> I know this should be really simple stuff, but I am having an idiot day and really need to use the damned floppy drive.
[09:47] <Goomie> compilerwriter: /media/floppy, if that directory doesnt exist you will have to make it
[09:47] <es1> I must admit I am a little preoccupied with my own networking problems
[09:47] <anon32> kosnick, you need to check with whatever program you're using to download...
[09:47] <es1> I'm building a pastebin record of what I'm seeing
[09:47] <Paddy_EIRE> I just disabled my floppy...really cant find any use for it any more
[09:48] <compilerwriter>  should I make /media/floppy0 or just /media/floppy?
[09:48] <Paddy_EIRE> compilerwriter: how many floppy drives you got
[09:48] <salkot> es1, ok
[09:48] <anon32> um... can I convert my ReiserFS drive to XFS? or do I need to format?
[09:48] <compilerwriter> I have one floppy drive.
[09:48] <Goomie> compilerwriter: you can name it whatever you want thats just the mount directory the /dev/fd0 depends on how many like paddy asked
[09:48] <Paddy_EIRE> compilerwriter: then just use floppy
[09:49] <sleepster> thanks pecisk
[09:49] <compilerwriter> I now have a floppy0 since it is referenced that way in the /etc/fstab.  That seemed the most sensible way to go.  Should I make it simply floppy?
[09:49] <IcemanV9> salkot: the current version doesn't work; need the latest version to make it work - here's info that you may want to try .. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=225330
[09:49] <anon32> is there a way to convert a Reiser partition to XFS?
[09:50] <salkot> IcemanV9, great, thank you! I'll check that out
[09:50] <IcemanV9> salkot: "hal status 3" is the key
[09:50] <pike_> anon32: like formatting with mkfs ?
[09:50] <Goomie> compilerwriter: if floppy0 is already present in /media then go ahead and run mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0
[09:50] <anon32> NO! converting without data loss
[09:51] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> hey.im running xgl/beryl on an ATI Xpress 200 based pc with ATI drivers. My prob is da screenshot taken usin the "take screenshot" option in accessories or by pressin printscreen or thru acquire in GIMP appears garbled..screenshots of a single open window taken using alt+print screen appear fine.........im VERY new to ubuntu...any solution to this?
[09:51] <sasalli> hi to all! when i try to install xserver-xgl, i'm getting this error http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3849/screenshotqh3.png
[09:51] <SeanTater> anon32: tar.gz the whole thing, copy it elsewhere, them mkfs
[09:51] <anon32> SeanTater, that's an absurd inconvenience
[09:51] <SeanTater> anon32: then unpack it back into the new fs
[09:51] <compilerwriter> I says I must specify the file system type.
[09:51] <anon32> I want to know if there's an answer to my question before I spend hours transferring data
[09:51] <es1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26354/  is some of the data collected from my networking headache.  As you can see at the bottom, the system knows about eth0 and 1, but ifconfig knows about ETH one and ETH 2.  Help?
[09:51] <SeanTater> anon32: tar without gz is faster
[09:52] <anon32> It's still an absurd inconvenience
[09:52] <anon32> if there's a way to convert, I see no reason to waste hours of my time backing up and copying
[09:52] <Justy-> Hello again, I was following those steps: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560 . And at first step i did this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26350/ and I got that error on pastebin. Can anyone help me solving that problem?
[09:52] <es1> anon32: gparted may be able to help
[09:53] <compilerwriter> sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 -t dos?
[09:53] <pike_> anon32: convertfs maybe but id be too afraid id end up tar.gz ing anyway
[09:53] <anon32> es1: can gparted convert partitions? I thought it just edited the partition table
[09:53] <Goomie> compilerwriter: mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 if that dont work try msdos
[09:53] <salkot> IcemanV9, it froze when I tried to `modprobe ath_pci`, but that was when I had stuck the card in after boot...trying again now with the card in at boot :/
[09:53] <es1> if you have consumed less than 50% of your disk, you might be able to create a new partition and then copy over
[09:53] <mjr> AFAIK there is no way to convert (well, aside from coding the conversion), so it's not a waste of time if you want to do it anyway
[09:53] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> nybody got a sol to my prob??:(
[09:53] <es1> you can then also do a resize if need be
[09:53] <anon32> es1, nope, 65% used
[09:53] <compilerwriter> Should the floppy be in the drive when I do that?
[09:53] <es1> still not helpless
[09:53] <sasalli> 2.try) when i try to install xserver-xgl, i'm getting this error http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3849/screenshotqh3.png
[09:53] <es1> hopeless
[09:53] <Goomie> compilerwriter: that would be a good idea
[09:54] <sasalli> how can i solve ?
[09:54] <es1> you should be able to then copy in thirds
[09:54] <anon32> and no... copy - resize - delete - resize - copy does not sound like a good idea
[09:54] <Justy-> sasalli, alt+printscreen
[09:54] <mjr> pike_, hmh, didn't know about that, but yeah, I wouldn't use it on any fs that had important data :] 
[09:54] <gansinho> I have a usb bluetooth dongle which is not supported, is there anything that I can do?
[09:54] <th3_d4r3d3vi1> hey.im running xgl/beryl on an ATI Xpress 200 based pc with ATI drivers. My prob is da screenshot taken usin the "take screenshot" option in accessories or by pressin printscreen or thru acquire in GIMP appears garbled..screenshots of a single open window taken using alt+print screen appear fine.........im VERY new to ubuntu...any solution to this?
[09:54] <Justy-> sasalli, oyle yaparsan daha iyi olur
[09:54] <es1> it's that or copy to a new disk
[09:54] <compilerwriter> So far I have no new  is good news.
[09:54] <sasalli> vay
[09:54] <anon32> then, there's no way to convert?
[09:54] <compilerwriter> Now there should be an icon on my desktop correct?
[09:54] <sasalli> karde
[09:55] <gansinho> th3_d4r3d3vi1: try #beryl
[09:55] <es1> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php
[09:55] <sasalli> neden?
[09:55] <anon32> es1, I'll read that
[09:55] <Goomie> compilerwriter: maybe, not a big gui fan, if not just open up filebrowser and go to /media/floppy0
[09:55] <mjr> anon32, pike_ already noted the existence of convertfs, if you're feeling brave
[09:55] <Justy-> sasalli, alt+printscreen sadece aktif pencerenin resmini eker
[09:55] <sasalli> tamam
[09:55] <Justy-> sasalli, boylece resmin daha kk boyutta olur ;)
[09:56] <anon32> mjr, feeling brave? is it over 50% failure then?
[09:56] <sasalli> win de varda burada denemek aklma gelmedi
[09:56] <mjr> how should I know
[09:56] <es1> seriously, given the cost of new discs (100 bucks for 200 GB), it's a cheap way to do the conversion
[09:56] <Justy-> Hello again, I was following those steps: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560 . And at first step i did this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26350/ and I got that error on pastebin. Can anyone help me solving that problem?
[09:56] <anon32> um... nowhere does it say gparted can convert..
[09:56] <mjr> anon32, that's because it can't
[09:56] <anon32> es1, but buying one is a WASTE of my time... I want this done quickly
[09:56] <x1alpha> hello do the xgl debs work ?
[09:56] <anon32> mjr, exactly
[09:56] <es1> how valuable did you say your data was?
[09:56] <compilerwriter> Yay I have been able to access an old resume that was on the floppy.  Thank you.
[09:57] <es1> What's the cost of losing it?
[09:57] <compilerwriter> Now will I have to mount and unmount the thing everytime I use it?
[09:57] <anon32> es1, not very valuable, what's at cost here is my TIME which is infinitely valuable
[09:57] <Goomie> compilerwriter: dont be lazy :)
[09:57] <dobbbob> can i upgrade to the latest edgey from the latest dapper???
[09:57] <mjr> anon32, well then obviously convert is for you, should do it quickly if it works :] 
[09:57] <es1> Okay, not trying to be a pain, only trying to understand.  Then why do the conversion?  I missed that part.
[09:57] <compilerwriter> I am just asking.  The cdrom drive takes care of itself.  Will the floppy now that it is set up?
[09:57] <IcemanV9> compilerwriter: you can write a script to mount and unmount it :)
[09:57] <Goomie> compilerwriter: you can try googling automount floppy
[09:58] <anon32> mjr, "if it works" - is the failure rate like 90% then or something?
[09:58] <dobbbob> from the apt-get i mean
[09:58] <mjr> anon32, I already answered that
[09:58] <anon32> es1, because bad performance costs me time too
[09:58] <pike_> dobbbob: yes
[09:58] <anon32> mjr, where?
[09:58] <es1> I understand them
[09:58] <mjr> 22:56 < mjr> how should I know
[09:58] <es1> then
[09:58] <compilerwriter> I take I will have to do it manually then.
[09:58] <Goomie> compilerwriter: there you go IcemanV9, you can write scripts to make your life easier
[09:58] <anon32> ........................
[09:59] <anon32> well, I have backups of my data... so I'll give it a shot... if it fails, I'll just restore and waste my time
[09:59] <es1> unfortunately, anon32, you are stuck with a bunch of bad solutions.
[09:59] <Goomie> compilerwriter: i think you have to due to the nature of it
[09:59] <dobbbob> pike how? i want to update to edgey from within dapper
[09:59] <mjr> anon32, what I'm trying to say, you've been given the options. It's up to you to choose now.
[09:59] <es1> I'm really sorry because I truly understand where you are at because I've been there
[09:59] <compilerwriter> sudo unmount /dev/fdo ?
[09:59] <anon32> though, are Reiser and XFS both block-oriented and supported by kernel 2.6?
[09:59] <compilerwriter> What is the unmount command then?
[09:59] <es1> yes they are.
[09:59] <anon32> ok
[09:59] <Goomie> compilerwriter: you shouldnt need the sudo actually
[09:59] <btdown> !paste
[09:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:59] <anon32> time to give it a try...
[09:59] <es1> Best of luck
[10:00] <CromagDK> is it possible that fsck is EXTREMELY fast when no errors found in the start of a partition ?
[10:00] <anon32> mm... the only thing at stake is my time
[10:00] <pike_> dobbbob: well you can sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and do a find and replace replacing dapper with edgy then save then sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  i havent used edgy but that should work
[10:00] <compilerwriter> made me do the sudo to mount it.
[10:00] <compilerwriter> Maybe becaus it was the first time it was mounted.
[10:00] <es1> crimagdk: fsck is never fast
[10:00] <IcemanV9> compilerwriter: yep. sudo umount /dev/fd0
[10:00] <CromagDK> es1: hmm ok
[10:00] <dobbbob> ok
[10:00] <es1> you may be seeing journaling kicking in
[10:00] <anon32> last question: does ubuntu's support for XFS suck?
[10:01] <Goomie> IcemanV9: he wanted it set up to mount and umount without root
[10:01] <CromagDK> es1: nothing no.
[10:01] <es1> anon32: don't know yet.  Haven't tried it
[10:01] <anon32> mm... if it does, that's more time out the window :-\
[10:01] <CromagDK> es1: just fsck /dev/sda2 and 1 sec after it tells me its clean
[10:01] <anon32> oh yea... I need xfs tools too
[10:01] <es1> you might also try jfs
[10:01] <anon32> es1, perhaps
[10:01] <IcemanV9> ah
[10:01] <es1> Cromagdk: all that problem.  It's just checking the clean flag
[10:02] <w30> if fstab is setup with the users option then umount fd0 should be possible by any user
[10:02] <anon32> fd0?
[10:02] <es1> you need to force it to do an fsck sometime.  These switches are in the man page
[10:02] <_0001> ubotu i need ATI drivers
[10:02] <Goomie> w30: yeah i think his fstab has that in there
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i need ATI drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <CromagDK> es1: oh ok. so what can i do to check the disc more ?
[10:02] <anon32> I've seen sd* and hd* but never fd*....
[10:02] <compilerwriter> I will have to tell it to mount at /media/floppy0 when I want to mount the thing or will it mount it there now that the directory is already in existence?
[10:02] <salkot> IcemanV9, didn't work :/
[10:02] <CromagDK> floppy disk ?
[10:02] <w30> not /dev/fd0 but just fd0
[10:02] <es1> bad blocks
[10:02] <_0001> ubotu fglrx drivers
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fglrx drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <CromagDK> es1: ah ye thnkix
[10:02] <_0001> ubotu fglrx
[10:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:02] <dobbbob> pike it seems to be working
[10:02] <es1> you could also go purchase SpinRite if you use EXT 3 for your file system
[10:03] <dobbbob> ill cross my fingers
[10:03] <kupesoft> I've no idea where to ask this - my linksys router has a power supply that is 12V / 1000mA and I got a newer one, but that takes a power supply of 12V / .5A which I do not have.  Can I use the power supply on the newer one?
[10:03] <mjr> (the convertfs concept actually seems spiffy)
[10:03] <es1> that little utility has saved my bacon more than once
[10:03] <Justy-> Hello again, I was following those steps: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560 . And at first step i did this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26350/ and I got that error on pastebin. Can anyone help me solving that problem?
[10:03] <pensos> I need some help
[10:03] <Goomie> compilerwriter: i think the entry is in your fstab all you have to do is mount /dev/fd0 and it should mount it there
[10:03] <compilerwriter> umount /dev/fd0
[10:03] <pensos> am new to Ubunti
[10:03] <pensos> anyone care to help
[10:03] <dobbbob> pike is it better to do a fresh install off the cd? will i get the same performance? i suspect maybe i have extra packages now leftover from dapper
[10:03] <w30> ok, then umount floppy0 in that case should be possible by any user
[10:03] <es1> don't we all need help
[10:03] <dobbbob> ubuntui!
[10:03] <pensos> lol es1
[10:03] <pensos> i need very basic help
[10:03] <pensos> very very basic
[10:03] <k0rd> pensos, whats your question?
[10:04] <pensos> can you help
[10:04] <es1> give it a shot
[10:04] <dobbbob> anyone know if i can install compiz from synaptics, or do ai need to do a lot of complicated text editing of files?
[10:04] <anon32> !ask
[10:04] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:04] <pensos> i have downloaded macromedia flash
[10:04] <es1> think of IRC is like a room full of a bunch of very drunk and technology people
[10:04] <pensos> i want to installl it
[10:04] <anon32> HAHAHAHA
[10:04] <IcemanV9> salkot: looks like you'll need a new driver
[10:04] <anon32> I see what's gonna happen now...
[10:04] <Goomie> dobbbob: if you look through ubuntu forums theres a guide
[10:04] <k0rd> pensos, did you apt-get it?
[10:04] <anon32> !flash
[10:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:04] <dobbbob> goomie that guide is complicated!
[10:04] <pensos> how do i do that
[10:04] <k0rd> open your terminal type "sudo apt-get install flash"
[10:04] <pike_> dobbbob: shouldnt matter.  but if there is a problem submit a bug report :)
[10:04] <k0rd> er
[10:04] <pensos> ok
[10:04] <Goomie> dobbbob: and yes there is some text editing to be done complicated is a matter of opinion
[10:04] <k0rd> "sudo apt-get install flash non-free"
[10:04] <pensos> one second
[10:04] <k0rd> ^^ type that
[10:05] <k0rd> with quotations
[10:05] <salkot> IcemanV9, I've done an apt-get update/upgrade...
[10:05] <k0rd> without*
[10:05] <dobbbob> goomie how long until i can do it from synaptics
[10:05] <dobbbob> when will it be incorporated???
[10:05] <dobbbob> like mandriva 2007
[10:05] <compilerwriter> That line was supposed to make it so that I need not be root to mount the blasted drive.  What is wrong with it?
[10:05] <IcemanV9> salkot: i meant that you have to download the driver from madwifi website and compile it. it's in thread.
[10:05] <pensos> Couldn't find package flash
[10:06] <pensos> thats the errror
[10:06] <k0rd> hmm
[10:06] <k0rd> hang on
[10:06] <anon32> !repositories
[10:06] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:06] <pensos> ok
[10:06] <pensos> i have it in another folder
[10:06] <salkot> IcemanV9, oh, I thought I would have the latest one from doing the upgrade
[10:06] <anon32> time to try my luck with convertfs..
[10:06] <pensos> could that be the reason
[10:06] <w30> compilerwriter, just do it like mount floppy0 and umount floppy0 as a user
[10:06] <puff> hoary->breezy dist-upgrade went smoothly, but the breezy->dapper upgrade now has the postfix config menu up.
[10:06] <IcemanV9> salkot: i have done it before on hoary. it was easy (for me).
[10:06] <k0rd> pensos, no
[10:06] <k0rd> I gave you the wrong command hang on
[10:06] <pensos> loool ok
[10:07] <pensos> hit me with the right onw
[10:07] <k0rd> my bad :(
[10:07] <w30> compilerwriter, then mount will read fstab
[10:07] <pensos> i have been using Suse 10
[10:07] <pensos> it hang up on me last night
[10:07] <anon32> error.... "no loop device support in kernel"
[10:07] <anon32> looks like I have to format
[10:07] <pensos> formatted everything and put in Ubunti
[10:07] <puff> Hm, I think i'll skip postfix for now, though I should seriously think about using a smarthost setup at some point.
[10:07] <anon32> wtf is loop device support, and how do I enable it?
[10:07] <k0rd> ok pensos
[10:08] <k0rd> "sudo apt-cache flash"
[10:08] <pensos> ok
[10:08] <k0rd> sudo apt-cache search flash
[10:08] <k0rd> anything come up?
[10:08] <anon32> error.... "no loop device support in kernel"
[10:08] <pensos> nope
[10:08] <pensos> nothing
[10:08] <anon32> what's the problem here?
[10:09] <pensos> -$
[10:09] <Goomie> anon32: 127.0.0.1 for tcp/ip, couldnt tell you the problem
[10:09] <pensos> just that
[10:09] <pensos> ~$
[10:09] <pensos> thats what comes up
[10:09] <anon32> Goomie, it's in reference to file systems
[10:09] <compilerwriter> what do you do to get the machine to read the fstab file.  I tried source, but that evidently doesn't work in bash.
[10:09] <k0rd> I have to run pensos
[10:09] <k0rd> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=138405
[10:09] <gansinho> I have a usb bluetooth dongle which is not supported, is there anything that I can do?
[10:09] <sc0tty_> hi
[10:09] <k0rd> That should help you better than I can
[10:09] <pensos> k0rd what about using add/remove
[10:09] <Justy-> Hello again, I was following those steps: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560 . And at first step i did this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26350/ and I got that error on pastebin. Can anyone help me solving that problem?
[10:09] <compilerwriter> It said It couldn't find floppy0 in the fstab or mtab.
[10:10] <cherubiel> anon32: you need to CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP and recompile the kernel
[10:10] <k0rd> hope you get it pensos
[10:10] <k0rd> im out later
[10:10] <anon32> !!!!!!!!!11
[10:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 11 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:10] <anon32> GOD DAMN IT
[10:10] <cherubiel> compilerwriter: try mdir a:
[10:10] <pensos> havent got it
[10:10] <es1> anon32 hold
[10:10] <anon32> well, that'll take longer than backing up 2TB, so nvm
[10:10] <pensos> is it this hard to install anything in Ubuntu
[10:10] <es1> loopback devices are present in standard ubunth
[10:10] <sc0tty_> I don't know why, but all searches with easytag (cddb) always returns empty :(
[10:10] <es1> don't panic
[10:10] <anon32> es1, err... so why the error?
[10:10] <sc0tty_> it used to work at one time, but it doesn't anymore
[10:11] <es1> bad software creation
[10:11] <compilerwriter> mdir command not found
[10:11] <es1> I got an error about some type of Samba page not being available in the log which meant you haven't installed the package yet
[10:11] <anon32> es1, well... time to reformat then...
[10:11] <es1> not yet
[10:11] <cherubiel> compilerwriter: apt-get install mtools
[10:11] <es1> give me a couple minutes to let me find some notes
[10:11] <mikefoo> Anyone use ip over kvm here?
[10:12] <pensos> can anyone help me install a program
[10:12] <pensos> macromedia flash
[10:12] <compilerwriter> doing that now.  What the hell are mtools?
[10:12] <compilerwriter> had to sudo apt-get.
[10:12] <cherubiel> compilerwriter: does the mounting umountin automagically for ya
[10:13] <compilerwriter> They are mounting tools.
[10:13] <Goomie> pensos: ubuntuguide.org all your basic needs, id also check out automatrix
[10:13] <pike_> pensos: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree    do a search on wiki.ubuntu.com for stuff like flash and mp3
[10:13] <pensos> thanks Goomie and pike
[10:13] <compilerwriter> so do I now just hit the button to eject the disk and it will umount the damned drive?
[10:13] <w30> compilerwriter, try mount /media/cdrom0 and umount /media/cdrom0
[10:14] <phaedrus44> anyone use a broadcom wireless card?
[10:14] <anon32> phaedrus44, me
[10:14] <phaedrus44> sweet what one?
[10:14] <phaedrus44> 4311?
[10:14] <compilerwriter> says no media is found.
[10:14] <w30> compilerwriter, does that work?
[10:14] <Goomie> compilerwriter: u can hit the button any time , but if you have stuff that you wanted to write to it , then it might not get wrote unless u umount first
[10:14] <anon32> oh wait... mine's a wired card
[10:14] <anon32> sorry
[10:15] <x1alpha> anyone got xgl working from the debs in the repository ?
[10:15] <phaedrus44> whats wired?
[10:15] <anon32> es1, hello?
[10:15] <phaedrus44> oh ethernet?
[10:15] <anon32> phaedrus44, yea.... sorry
[10:15] <phaedrus44> np
[10:15] <w30> compilerwriter, I should have said /media/floppy and media/floppy0 for a flopy drive .my bad...
[10:15] <es1> still here
[10:15] <compilerwriter> I remember reading that the computer might take its own sweet time writing stuf.
[10:15] <es1> just found what I was looking for.  I built a script for generating flash memory images for IP cop
[10:15] <Justy-> OMG!, I was following those steps: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560 . And at first step i did this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26350/ and I got that error on pastebin. Can anyone help me solving that problem?
[10:15] <compilerwriter> you meant mount /media/floppy0
[10:16] <es1> I use loopback devices for that application
[10:16] <anon32> ...that helps me how?
[10:16] <es1> it will show you how to create loopback devices
[10:16] <anon32> es1, I'm not very sophisticated in the way of the penguin, perhaps you can give me a step-by-step?
[10:16] <w30> compilerwriter, I will get it right yet, mount /media/floppy0 and umount media/floopy0
[10:16] <es1> I found I had to do a modprobe loop to guarantee that things would work right
[10:17] <es1> so on your system, type "modprobe loop"
[10:17] <es1> and tell me what you get
[10:17] <w30> compilerwriter, sorry for the bad typing.
[10:17] <anon32> es1, no output
[10:18] <anon32> is that good or bad?
[10:18] <es1> lsmod output should show you there is now a loop module in your kernel
[10:18] <es1> remember, silence implies consent
[10:18] <es1> especially when it comes to UNIX commandline tools
[10:18] <anon32> es1, yes, it exists
[10:18] <es1> okay good
[10:19] <anon32> do call convertfs now, or do I need to hack some more?
[10:19] <es1> looking...
[10:19] <willys_fueguino> Hi!! How can I change my default file manager???
[10:19] <es1> actually, if it's trying to create its own loopback devices then try it now
[10:19] <compilerwriter> That is ok w30  now that I know it was not me.
[10:19] <anon32> willys_fueguino, err.... WHY?
[10:19] <compilerwriter> Your heart was in the right place w30
[10:19] <willys_fueguino> anon32, 'cause I like thunar more than nautilus
[10:19] <anon32> es1, it's working... I convertfs at my own risk.....
[10:20] <es1> you're welcome
[10:20] <anon32> and then it aborts
[10:20] <anon32> :-(
[10:20] <es1> that's not my fault
[10:20] <willys_fueguino> anon32, do you know how to do it?
[10:20] <es1> any idea why it aborts?  Any printouts, and the log messages?
[10:20] <Ropechoborra> !isoburn
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about isoburn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <anon32> es1, no
[10:20] <Ropechoborra> !burn
[10:20] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[10:21] <avagant> !mov
[10:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mov - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <es1> Any log messages?
[10:21] <es1>  log messages
[10:21] <avagant> k3b is the best cd burner I've run into.
[10:21] <anon32> es1, it prints no output other than aborting
[10:21] <anon32> in the warning, it says that it'll abort if the fs gets full... but it aborts instantly
[10:21] <es1> echeck /var/log/messages
[10:22] <pensos> still cant get it
[10:22] <pensos> i want to install a file
[10:22] <pensos> i have downloaded online
[10:22] <willys_fueguino> Someone know how can I change my default file manager???
[10:22] <anon32> es1, a ton of gibberish... I can't make sense of it
[10:22] <es1> anon32 does the documentation say anything about minimum requirements for free disk space
[10:22] <anon32> es1, nope :-(
[10:22] <Justy-> OMG!, I was following those steps: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560 . And at first step i did this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26350/ and I got that error on pastebin. Can anyone help me solving that problem?
[10:22] <es1> it's no more gibberish and than Estonian is to American ears
[10:22] <anon32> wonder if my device needs to be mounted
[10:22] <pensos> es1
[10:23] <es1> or maybe unmounted
[10:23] <ladydoor> willys_fueguino: start up a different one? <alt>F2, in gnome, is run program
[10:23] <pensos> can u assist man!!
[10:23] <anon32> I tried it umounted...
[10:23] <es1> pensos: hold for a few minutes
[10:23] <pensos> ok
[10:23] <es1> usually file system conversions require the filesystem to be quiescent
[10:23] <willys_fueguino> ladydoor, but to set it as default file manager...
[10:23] <anon32> es1, quiescent?
[10:23] <es1> what does the documentation say?
[10:23] <kuoylam> how to change the background image using a command line with gnome ?
[10:23] <anon32> es1, absolutely nothing
[10:23] <es1> Stable, quiet, not changing, frozen
[10:24] <Jerem1> can anyone spare a bit of time for a very very green ubuntu newbie?
[10:24] <es1> it's a technical term for "okay, nobody move"
[10:24] <quiet> oi?
[10:24] <anon32> god damn it... time to reformat then
[10:24] <noname_> ...
[10:24] <Goomie> kuoylam: you want a picture for your terminal?
[10:24] <es1> then I suggest taking a deep breath.  Whenever I make a change in anger, it makes me more angry
[10:25] <es1> because I usually screwed something up
[10:25] <anon32> well... since plan A failed... time for plan B
[10:25] <ladydoor> willys_fueguino: how do you usually start your file manager?
[10:25] <jeff_> Is this the right channel to ask in about upgrades to Edgy?
[10:25] <LjL> !edgy
[10:25] <es1> would you mind taking a moment with me to review
[10:25] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[10:25] <sorush20> lsusb is not working for me
[10:25] <pensos> anyone  can help
[10:25] <willys_fueguino> ladydoor, Places>home
[10:25] <pensos> in installation procedure
[10:25] <bruenig> !es
[10:25] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:26] <Jerem1> I just loaded Ubuntu for the very first time and then tried to update. the update failed and now it refuses to  load properly!! and I am starting to get frustrated!
[10:26] <kuoylam> Goomie: I just want to change the gnome background image on a computer via ssh
[10:26] <pensos> .tar.gz
[10:26] <es1> pensos: what's the installation process are trying to do
[10:26] <jjk> what kernel should be in  ubuntu 6.06LTS right now?
[10:26] <pensos> how do i install that type of file
[10:26] <bruenig> Jerem1, what do you mean by failed and what do you mean by refuses to load properly
[10:26] <Goomie> kuoylam: id start looking in USER/.gnome
[10:26] <anon32> hmm... /me notes that he's lost and has a long restore ahead
[10:26] <ladydoor> willys_fueguino: why not just put a launcher on your gnome bar thing with the command "someotherfilemanager /home/username" or whatever the equivilent pointer is?
[10:26] <pensos> i want to install the flash player
[10:26] <ladydoor> willys_fueguino: then you don't even have to go into the menu.
[10:27] <pensos> whats the procedure es1
[10:27] <ladydoor> willys_fueguino: or you could create a keybinding to open some other file manager on your home dir.
[10:27] <willys_fueguino> ladydoor, ;-). XDDD I fell like a fool...
[10:27] <es1> pensos: there are documentation pieces out there on installing flash that people have given you.  Those bits of documentation will guide you far better than I can
[10:27] <boink> 2.6.15-23 is the latest dapper kernel
[10:27] <es1> they are the very pieces I go to whatever I set up a new system that needs flash
[10:27] <pensos> give me the link
[10:27] <ladydoor> willys_fueguino: no worries! i ask quesions all the time that in retrospect seem so obvoius
[10:27] <ladydoor> *obvious
[10:27] <compilerwriter> Thanks for all the help all.
[10:27] <es1> !flash
[10:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:27] <pensos> give me the link to those pieces
[10:27] <Jerem1> my connection dropped (failed update) and now pretty much everything in the upper right corner of the default install will not show up (no date/time, network, etc.)
[10:27] <kuoylam> Goomie: first step, how to change my own background image using a command in a terminal that i've openned on gnome?
[10:28] <anon32> alrighty... now the only thing that would suck is if Ubuntu's XFS support was crappy and development level
[10:28] <Boglizk> Can anyone tell me if GPC is preinstalled with Ubuntu?
[10:28] <bruenig> Jerem1, right click on the panel and select add the panel
[10:28] <host`> !mplayer
[10:28] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[10:28] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[10:28] <es1> pensos: I just told the robot to give you those links.  If you look above and see the "for multimedia issues" line, that has the information you need
[10:28] <Goomie> kuoylam: ask yourself do you need to change a background image from a terminal?
[10:28] <anon32> Boglizk, why don't you just check your apt lists?
[10:28] <Jerem1> the mouse will not even respond to the panel
[10:28] <Boglizk> anon32, becouse i'm not on Linux atm
[10:28] <host`> ther eis no apt-get
[10:28] <bruenig> pensos, do you have the flash tar.gz file from adobe?
[10:28] <pensos> thanks
[10:28] <pensos> now tell me sth
[10:29] <anon32> Boglizk, one sec then
[10:29] <kuoylam> Goomie: that doesn't answer my question
[10:29] <es1> you're welcome.
[10:29] <pensos> how do you tell the robot to give answers
[10:29] <Boglizk> anon32: Thanks
[10:29] <Jerem1> sorry for the very very newbie problems but I really want to learn
[10:29] <es1> But sth??
[10:29] <jjk> my sound and usb is not working and currently running kernel 2.6.12-10 will the kernel upgrade solve those problems?
[10:29] <pensos> something  = sth
[10:29] <pike_> pensos: you can /msg ubotu .. and it will open a private conversation
[10:29] <anon32> no, it's not
[10:29] <boink> jjk: maybe
[10:29] <mnk> hi all
[10:29] <pensos> ok thanks
[10:29] <ubuntu_> hei kaikille
[10:29] <mnk> when is the next version of ubuntu coming out?
[10:29] <boink> you could try an apt-get update
[10:29] <boink> mnk: at the end of this month
[10:30] <HedgeMage> mnk: sometime this month.
[10:30] <KenSentMe> !schedule
[10:30] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[10:30] <boink> 25/26 October is the release date
[10:30] <Goomie> kuoylam: look for the gnome config file for your user most likly, not sure where it is do a ls -a in your home dir
[10:30] <bruenig> Jerem1, the update failing should not in theory ruin your panel. But you said that you just installed so why not reformat and reinstall and start over since you won't be losing anything.
[10:30] <es1> you never can tell when it will actually come out but you can tell when it has because the net crashes
[10:30] <anon32> naming yourself "Ubuntu" seems kinda boastful in this channel...
[10:30] <yiff> I just tried a dist-upgrade to edgy and upstart refuse to replace sysvinit and all my X-stuff refuse to replace the existing X-stuff too. Does anyone know how I should proceed?
[10:30] <bruenig> !edgy
[10:30] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[10:30] <Goomie> kuoylam: but if your using SSH you dont see a background so you might as well wait till your home and have the gui to when you will actaully see the change
[10:30] <anon32> yiff, burn the disc image and install from the CD
[10:31] <kuoylam> Goomie: I know that
[10:31] <kuoylam> Goomie: It's not for me
[10:31] <yiff> anon32: Is that the only way? :-(
[10:31] <jjk> boink: apt-get update didn't find anything
[10:31] <host`> !tar
[10:31] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[10:31] <Jerem1> I'll try that thanks! is there a way to separate out the unnecessary updates and only get the critical system up dates (read: very very slow and remote Internet connection)
[10:31] <anon32> yiff, seems the best way
[10:31] <Goomie> kuoylam: ill look around for the location of the file
[10:31] <kuoylam> Goomie: It's to make a joke to my girlfriend actually :)
[10:32] <anon32> why do we have tons of weird codenames? why can't we just call edgy *buntu-beta?
[10:32] <boink> who knows
[10:32] <avagant> Why not?
[10:32] <hoelk> !ace
[10:32] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[10:32] <es1> because it's more fun
[10:32] <jjk> is there any other way to update the server
[10:32] <yiff> anon32: Bummer. That's gonna take all night and I'm gonna lose all my existing installed software. Does anyone have any good experience from dist-upgrading to edgy?
[10:32] <ladydoor> anon32: it's a debian-based tradition!
[10:32] <jjk> *kernel
[10:32] <Goomie> cd .gnome
[10:32] <Goomie> ls
[10:32] <Utopiate> I'm trying to compile mhxd and I get an error stating that my gcc can't output executables...
[10:32] <es1> I name all of my camram releases after characters in Alice in Wonderland
[10:32] <Goomie> whoops
[10:32] <TmWrk_Quil> this channel has way too much traffic to be meaningful anymore
[10:32] <ladydoor> anon32: also, i think it makes it easier when updating to a new version
[10:33] <anon32> eh, beware file-roller's 7z support - it fails to compress and decompress directories
[10:33] <anon32> ladydoor, meh..
[10:33] <host`> TmWrk_Quil, there is almost 1000 people here, that will happen
[10:33] <bayzider> can some one help me i instaled a windows app using wine. When i start the app it tells me i need to install active x browser object. How do i do that
[10:33] <es1> I'm still having trouble figuring out why eth0 isn't recognized
[10:33] <anon32> bayzider, by installing the object using wine?
[10:33] <srafx> es1, what card are you using?
[10:33] <bayzider> anon32 : what?
[10:34] <ladydoor> anon32: so like, if dapper were instead "*buntu-beta," people would then have to change their sources.list to read "*buntu" instead of "*buntu-beta," and there would be much moving around of things on the internet
[10:34] <es1> the kernel sees it but the DHCP client doesn't
[10:34] <Utopiate> looking for some help with a GCC compile...
[10:34] <anon32> meh
[10:34] <es1> srafx: what ever VM Ware supplies.  If it's important, I can figure it out
[10:34] <anon32> Utopiate, do you have a makescript?
[10:34] <es1> I have three other virtual machines running just fine
[10:34] <Utopiate> anon32: I'm trying to compile mhxd and I get an error during...
[10:34] <anon32> ``
[10:34] <cherubiel> Utopiate: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:34] <srafx> i just goinged...so your using vmware?
[10:35] <srafx> joined*
[10:35] <Goomie> kuoylam: still there
[10:35] <anon32> Utopiate, yea... you need the build tools as well as the dependencies for your prog
[10:35] <es1> srafx:http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php   yes I am using VM Ware.  It's the only way I can have Linux on the same machine as my speech recognition
[10:35] <Goomie> kuoylam: should be an xml file in ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/background
[10:35] <es1> sorry, wrong URL
[10:35] <Utopiate> I have the deps... which are minimal... I just get an error stating that the C compiler can't make executables
[10:36] <es1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26354/
[10:36] <es1> that's better
[10:36] <Utopiate> cherubiel: beautiful... fixed her right up
[10:36] <bayzider> anon32: when i start the app it gives me  This application is requestion an activex browser object but the mozzila acitve x control is currently not installed"
[10:36] <es1> anyway, that paste shows you the current state of ethernet and the devices I'm using
[10:36] <cherubiel> Utopiate: do tat and retry
[10:36] <kuoylam> Goomie: I found it
[10:36] <anon32> bayzider, so.... you need to install the control
[10:36] <Utopiate> seems to be compiling now...
[10:36] <anon32> find it and install it
[10:37] <blees> i got a serius problem , i updated my breezy to dapper , i restart my pc , i write my user and pass , i enter a few seconds to the sesion and then the sesion closed and i came back to the menu where the pc ask for ur pass and user , any sugestion , PLEASE!!:(
[10:37] <bayzider> anon32 : how do i do that
[10:37] <cherubiel> Utopiate: beerware :P
[10:37] <Goomie> kuoylam: where was it at?
[10:37] <anon32> bayzider, how should I know? what's the program. what does it do, and what control is it?
[10:37] <bayzider> ! activeX
[10:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about activeX - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <anon32> :-( - last time I backuped and restored, I forgot one file...
[10:37] <v1pz> Hi, can somebody help me with UT2004?
[10:38] <es1> srafx:  still there?
[10:38] <stu_> can someone help me get my optical out working, got no sound from it at the moment
[10:38] <ladydoor> Utopiate: you probably need to install build-essential.
[10:38] <bayzider> ! ActiveX
[10:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ActiveX - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:38] <ladydoor> !windows
[10:38] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[10:38] <ladydoor> bayzider: ^^^
[10:38] <anon32> ladydoor, that's a WINE question
[10:38] <bean-oh> any video player on my system outputs a bad picture. brightness and contrast are totally screwed up. its not specific to settings on the individual players or videos, because on another machine the picture is fine. any ideas?
[10:38] <Utopiate> ladydoor: I did and the compile was a success! Thanks to all!
[10:38] <srafx> yeah still here..but i thought you were running linux and trying to get windows internet
[10:38] <ladydoor> anon32: ah.
[10:38] <ladydoor> Utopiate: sweet!
[10:38] <srafx> never ran vmware on windows
[10:38] <anon32> Utopiate, :-P
[10:39] <anon32> we all make that mistake sometime
[10:39] <MrObvious> Howdy.
[10:39] <srafx> in vmware cant you choose to use nat? then it should auto detect in linux
[10:39] <blees> i got a serius problem , i updated my breezy to dapper , i restart my pc , i write my user and pass , i enter a few seconds to the sesion and then the sesion closed and i came back to the menu where the pc ask for ur pass and user , any sugestion , PLEASE!!:(
[10:39] <MrObvious> How do I get characters like the accented e in re'sume'?
[10:39] <stu_> 7.1 Hardware Sound Controller (VIA Envy24PT) - cant get optical out to work... well dunno how??
[10:39] <es1> srafx: I don't think of this as a VMware problem.  I think of this as a detecting the right ethernet cards problem
[10:40] <es1> like I said, it sees ETH zero
[10:40] <es1> but for some reason, it can't bring it up.  And I don't know what makes that decision.
[10:40] <ladydoor> MrObvious: change your keyboard layout. are you in gnome? oh! and if you're in gnu screen, you can create digraphs with C-a C-V
[10:40] <bruenig> blees, it didn't give you an error?
[10:40] <es1> Modules.conf looks right
[10:40] <es1> setting up the right device aliases to the right cards
[10:41] <es1> so I am very confused
[10:41] <MrObvious> ladydoor: No I'm in Enlightenment DR 0.17. How does that work? Do you mean the control key?
[10:41] <es1> I'm almost ready to just wipe out that virtual machine and start over again
[10:41] <es1> it probably would've been faster if I did that this afternoon earlier
[10:41] <blees> bruenig, no nothing
[10:41] <v1pz> Hi, can somebody help me with UT2004?
[10:41] <blees> only closed the sesion
[10:41] <srafx> well, its kind of weird because vmware will use the windows drivers sort of
[10:41] <srafx> because linux will run on top of windows
[10:41] <bruenig> blees, try logging in to the console
[10:42] <bruenig> see what happens
[10:42] <es1> it's only weird because of your expectations
[10:42] <es1> when you really wrap your head around virtual machines, you understand that inside the virtual machine, nothing else exists except "hardware"
[10:42] <aw1> How do I mount a FAT partition with scandinavian letters in file names properly? Which codepage? "mount -o codepage=865..." does not work?
[10:42] <ladydoor> MrObvious: yeah, if the program in question is running in screen. otherwise, let me find a link for you.
[10:42] <es1> so from the OS perspective, it's just using those ethernet cards it found lying around.  :-)
[10:42] <MrObvious> ladydoor: I've never messed with screen :\.
[10:42] <bean-oh> any video player on my system outputs a bad picture. brightness and contrast are totally screwed up. its not specific to settings on the individual players or videos, because on another machine the picture is fine. any ideas?
[10:43] <blees> bruenig i try but i cant get something
[10:43] <blees> i think the x are not the problem
[10:43] <bruenig> could be gnome...
[10:43] <blees> i cant start with graphics
[10:43] <ladydoor> MrObvious: it's one of the useful-est programs i've ever come across
[10:43] <Shpongle> hello?
[10:43] <tasulzer> really silly question: what is the order of the "versions" of ubuntu?
[10:43] <anon32> GAH! my backup DVDs were left in the sun and are weird-colored now..
[10:43] <anon32> tasulzer, from lowest to highest, why?
[10:43] <bruenig> does anyone know how to login to the console from the login window? is it alt + f2?
[10:44] <ladydoor> MrObvious: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=237794
[10:44] <ladydoor> MrObvious: look at my post...hopefully you'll find it helpful :-)
[10:44] <w0r> hello :)
[10:44] <anon32> bruenig, tried ctrl+shirt+f1?
[10:44] <bruenig> tasulzer, warty warthog, hedgy hedgehog, breezy badger, dapper drake, edgy eft
[10:44] <ladydoor> bruenig: control+alt+F[1-6] 
[10:44] <es1> anon32: Time to buy a new disk...
[10:44] <bruenig> anon32, I remember it was something like that
[10:44] <tasulzer> anon32, thx
[10:44] <es1> :-)
[10:44] <ladydoor> bruenig: hoary hedgehog. lol
[10:44] <MrObvious> ladydoor: Thanks!
[10:44] <anon32> es1, with that amount of money, I could my a new PC
[10:44] <blees> bruenig its control +alt+ f1
[10:44] <blees> or f2 f3 f4
[10:44] <ladydoor> MrObvious: no problem! good luck and let me know how it works out for you!
[10:44] <bruenig> oh yeah sorry ladydoor
[10:45] <MrObvious> ladydoor: Sure.
[10:45] <anon32> blees, thank you
[10:45] <ladydoor> bruenig: yeah, you should be sorry! JEEZ
[10:45] <ladydoor> lol
[10:45] <blees> ladydoor i luv u
[10:45] <es1>  how much storage are you talking about?  65 GB?  You can get that my storage just by rolling a bum on the street and ripping off his flash drive
[10:45] <w0r> i'm trying to install last ubuntu 6.06, but i get black screen when starting X server
[10:45] <anon32> es1, if I buy a new hard drive, I expect 10000 RPM and 300GB
[10:46] <w0r> i've tryed many configs for my widescreen monitor (samsung 26'')
[10:46] <jlev> I'm getting bzip2 error code 2 when I use apt-get update. Both on the ca and us mirrors. Any ideas?
[10:46] <w0r> noone work, can u help me?
[10:46] <es1> ahh  I was thinking something more in line with near-term storage.  Something slow, something quiet, something in a FireWire or USB two enclosure
[10:46] <anon32> w0r, tried installing in non-interactive mode?
[10:46] <tasulzer> /q
[10:46] <es1> something that will get the job done while you go do something else
[10:46] <anon32> es1, hell no, why do you think I want a high-performance FS?
[10:47] <ladydoor> !language
[10:47] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:47] <Breetai> Hey all, running 6.10 amarok worked till about 2 days ago, now all of a sudden, it says it can't play mp3's. If I log in as root, it can, if I log in as a regular user, it cant? Any ideas?
[10:47] <anon32> besides, external drives are a waste, the only good ones are internal
[10:47] <es1> I wasn't thinking of the disk as being permanent storage
[10:47] <anon32> Breetai, file permissions?
[10:47] <w0r> anon32, i don't know how to do that, i'm e newbie
[10:47] <shorthorns> hi
[10:47] <w0r> can u explain?
[10:47] <es1> just something to hold the data on while you rearrange the wheels on the cart to your liking
[10:47] <jlev> Anybody? seems like apt-get should work, especially the us mirror
[10:47] <anon32> es1, put in new one.... remove drive when needed and place in safe box
[10:48] <lansing> hey ppl
[10:48] <manu__> hello
[10:48] <srafx> anyone run XGL on ati with dual screens?
[10:48] <anon32> es1, actually, a better thing for that is one of em next-gen rewritables... this company invented a single-layered 200GB disc that writes at several GB/s
[10:48] <es1> then yes you want the 10,000 rpm big honking drive.  But it was still be cheaper than buying a new PC with the 10,000 rpm big honking drive in it
[10:48] <Breetai> anon32: 1) how would they have changed on their own 2) what files am I looking for?
[10:48] <Flannel> srafx: #ubuntu-xgl
[10:48] <host`> hmm... "snow.c:3874: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type"
[10:48] <blees> i got a serius problem , i updated my breezy to dapper , i restart my pc , i write my user and pass , i enter a few seconds to the sesion and then the sesion closed and i came back to the menu where the pc ask for ur pass and user , any sugestion , PLEASE!!:(
[10:48] <es1> that's impressive
[10:48] <es1> that's real impressive
[10:48] <anon32> Breetai, no idea
[10:48] <srafx> Flannel: thanks
[10:49] <anon32> es1, it uses dual recording lasers... and it costs a fortune
[10:49] <es1> anyway, I'm going to go rebuild a new virtual machine because I can't straighten out the networking on this one
[10:49] <Flannel> blees: in session go to "safe gnome" and try again
[10:49] <anon32> why virtual machines?
[10:49] <al_> dvd-ripper for ubuntu?
[10:49] <anon32> !dvdrip
[10:49] <ubotu> dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.52.5-0.0 (dapper), package size 365 kB, installed size 1656 kB
[10:49] <Flannel> blees: er, failsafe gnome, something like that
[10:49] <anon32> warning, it depends on some GTK 1.2 lib
[10:49] <ellioTb> anyone know about exit status 135 errors from a dist-upgrade? dpkg is yelling at me for like 8 packages
[10:49] <blees> Flannel , where is safe gnome
[10:49] <es1> because I need multiple machines to do my testing.  I am disabled and use speech recognition and the only way I can have Linux and speech recognition at the same time is to use Windows as my host OS and Linux as my guest.
[10:49] <kuoylam> Goomie: ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/background/%gconf.xml
[10:49] <ellioTb> and i can't remove them or reinstall them
[10:50] <puff> hm, okay,t his is odd.
[10:50] <Flannel> blees: on the login screen, there's a "session" button, click it, and select failsafe gnome
[10:50] <anon32> es1, my sympathies
[10:50] <w0r> anon32, can u explain how to install in non-interactive mode?
[10:50] <blees> ok wait Flannel
[10:50] <puff> The dist-upgrade appears to have hung after I cancled out of postfix.
[10:50] <es1> I'm also developing something for my customers which is a model of using a virtual machine for the base of their application and using the native OS as just a platform for running the virtual machine
[10:50] <anon32> w0r, what CD are you using? it should have a command-line boot option if it's the standard
[10:50] <puff> On the line:  "Moving /etc/cups/cupsd-browsing.conf to new location /etc/cups/cups.d/browse.conf...
[10:51] <anon32> es1, two words - performance drain
[10:51] <w0r> i downloaded it from the site
[10:51] <kuoylam> Goomie: but there should be a command line to do that
[10:51] <es1> yes, there are some inefficiencies but it's really not that bad.  You get seriously improve backup capability, restoration time is dramatically improved, and to businesses, that's worth more than gold
[10:51] <anon32> w0r, which one? there's too many versions we have on our site...
[10:51] <es1> believe me, if I can run three virtual machines and speech recognition at the same time on the laptop, there isn't that much in the way of performance drain
[10:51] <anon32> es1, to normal people, noticing that their effective RAM is halved and their disk usage spiking is pretty bad
[10:52] <w0r> standard version, it has some options and a boot line at the bottom of the page
[10:52] <ellioTb> anyone else have problems with a dist-upgrade? a bunch of packages from it won't install, now i can't install anything
[10:52] <jinro> Does anyone know if you can customize the shutdown dialog window?
[10:52] <puff> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26358/
[10:52] <anon32> w0r, hmm.... well, just check command line install
[10:52] <puff> So should i just give up and kill it or reboot?
[10:52] <anon32> unless you have the LiveCD... in which case you give up and die
[10:52] <ellioTb> libadns1 and a bunch of others won't remove or install
[10:53] <puff> Even more fun, fonts in firefox appear to be hosed.
[10:53] <DemisM> ok why can't i find xchat or any other programs in the package list or in apt-cache? <=Fresh install.
[10:53] <Flannel> ellioTb: pastebin your sources.list
[10:53] <w0r> but in the command line, what i have to write^
[10:53] <w0r> ?
[10:53] <jinro> Anyone know any good HOWTOs for customizing the dialog windows in GNOME/METACITY/GDM?
[10:53] <puff> All I get are boxes.
[10:53] <Flannel> DemisM: xchat-gnome is in main, xchat is in universe
[10:53] <anon32> w0r, it should be automated
[10:53] <anon32> just give it commands
[10:53] <anon32> commands = settings
[10:53] <overshard> how can i get a program to run in the background... whats the command line like for ./myprogram.sh   ?
[10:53] <es1> anon32: but it really isn't a whole lot different from a native machine.  we are talking maybe 20% difference tops.  Now if your machine is running close to the edge, it is time to get a new machine.  But really in 90% of the applications I've seen, it makes no difference.  Unless of course you're running exchange but that's a whole different problem.
[10:53] <ellioTb> Flannel, ok
[10:53] <Flannel> overshard: & after the command
[10:54] <ladydoor> overshard: ./myprogram.sh &
[10:54] <anon32> es1, Oblivion 4 *cough*
[10:54] <overshard> Flannel: thats exactly what i wanted thanks couldn't remember
[10:54] <DemisM> Flannel: how do i add those?
[10:54] <Flannel> DemisM: universe?
[10:54] <Flannel> !tell DemisM about universe
[10:54] <es1> Anon32: and one more thing, if you run on a CPU with Vanderpool/Prescott technology, the losses significantly lower.
[10:55] <es1> If it's an old-school Pentium 4, yeah you do get a bit of a hit at times.
[10:55] <v1pz> My ut2004 wont connect to online games help !!! :(
[10:55] <ellioTb> Flannel, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26359
[10:55] <anon32> v1pz, um... this is a linux channel
[10:55] <Zoffix> Hi, when I copy/paste something, it often pastes an older copy, what applet do I need to start (or keyboard shortcuts to use) if I want to change the clipboard content? I had KClip or something like that on FC5
[10:55] <overshard> .... how can i get that program to stay open even when i logout :D
[10:55] <v1pz> euhm
[10:55] <ladydoor> v1pz: the help sites are probably just slow. wait a little and they may load.
[10:55] <v1pz> my ut2004 runs on linux ?
[10:56] <overshard> v1pz, yes
[10:56] <anon32> v1pz, no it doesn't...
[10:56] <v1pz> yes it does
[10:56] <overshard> v1pz, very well i might add it runs better in there then on my windows box
[10:56] <ladydoor> v1pz: then why did you ask???
[10:56] <robbb1> anyone know a good notification area (for gaim) which will run on any WM ?
[10:56] <Flannel> ellioTb: You're upgrading to edgy?  alright, you should ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:56] <ladydoor> robbb1: guifications?
[10:56] <v1pz> I tought you guys could read ?
[10:56] <ellioTb> already in edgy
[10:56] <ladydoor> robbb1: (the plugin i mean)
[10:56] <v1pz> My ut2004 wont connect to online games help !!! :(
[10:56] <v1pz> online !!!
[10:57] <anon32> v1pz, well... I'll give you the basics, and we're all volunteers so be courteous and typing in txt won't help you
[10:57] <Flannel> ellioTb: alright, then still #ubuntu+1 is for edgy support ;)
[10:57] <overshard> v1pz: firewall blocking?
[10:57] <ellioTb> ok, thanks
[10:57] <ladydoor> v1pz: right, the help site is probably slow, especially if a lot of people are looking at it.
[10:57] <v1pz> ladydoor, first learn to read then respond
[10:57] <jinro> Anyone know any good HOWTOs for customizing the dialog windows in GNOME/METACITY/GDM?
[10:57] <anon32> first of all, you need to check your router and firewall and open the ports that UT 2K4 uses
[10:57] <robbb1> no i run enlightenment and it doesn have a notification area - i need one
[10:57] <v1pz> no firewall blocking :)
[10:57] <anon32> v1pz, do you *want* to be banned?
[10:57] <anon32> v1pz, itpables?
[10:57] <anon32> iptables*
[10:57] <sky123> Does anyone know what the openldap server packages are to setup openldap server for authentication??
[10:58] <v1pz> does it run standard under ubuntu :(
[10:58] <v1pz> :/
[10:58] <anon32> robbb1, stop running enlightenment?
[10:58] <anon32> v1pz, yes
[10:58] <v1pz> owww :/
[10:58] <anon32> you can either manually config or download firestarter
[10:58] <ladydoor> robbb1: are you talking about having notifications pop up when you receive a message? if so, the guifications plugin tends to be effective
[10:58] <ladydoor> robbb1: i don't use gnome, either.
[10:58] <es1> does ubuntu use modules.conf?
[10:59] <anon32> es1, dunno
[10:59] <overshard> es1: you coming from gentoo?
[10:59] <es1> no
[10:59] <avagant> Is there a way I can make windows and such not look so slick on ubuntu?
[10:59] <overshard> es1: ok nm then just curious
[10:59] <es1> I'm trying to find out why vmware tools set up a modules configuration file
[10:59] <anon32> avagant, change your theme
[10:59] <ladydoor> es1: doesn't seem that way...
[11:00] <anon32> it's system -> preferences -> theme
[11:00] <overshard> avagant: install compiz/xgl and have all kinds of great looking themes
[11:00] <robbb1> no i dont want them to popup. i want it to noitfy me that there is a message with the flashing icon
[11:00] <es1> #(^@#*^#&^##
[11:00] <avagant> I know but it seems all the themes make the corners rounded and weird crap.
[11:00] <anon32> overshard, he wants eye candy off
[11:00] <ladydoor> overshard: compiz for looking *less* slick?
[11:00] <anon32> avagant, try boxes
[11:00] <anon32> (i.e. the ugly one)
[11:00] <overshard> sorry :S didn't understand question
[11:00] <Flannel> avagant: there are plenty of themes that aren't rounded, take a look at gnome-looks.org... and.. um, there are other gnome theme sites.  ubuntu's gnome uses standard themes, so... you can poke around the intarwebs
[11:00] <avagant> boxes?
[11:01] <ladydoor> avagant: check out another WM such as fluxbox or ratpoison.
[11:01] <overshard> Fluxbox is a very good choice very minmal and sharp looking when customized
[11:01] <anon32> hehe, going to find compiz
[11:01] <Flannel> avagant: or xubuntu (xfce)
[11:02] <overshard> i've been using compiz/xgl since its release and like about a week after intalling it i took off the wobble plugin... that was cool atfirst then got annoying :S
[11:02] <anon32> um... what exactly does compiz do?
[11:02] <anon32> it says it hardware accelerates windows
[11:02] <overshard> other then that i love it
[11:02] <ladydoor> anon32: it's some kind of fancy 3d desktop
[11:02] <MrObvious> ladydoor: Hmm, nothing.
[11:02] <ladydoor> MrObvious: really? what keyboard layout did you select?
[11:02] <MrObvious> ladydoor: It gives me the spanish layout, but I can't figure out how to use it.
[11:02] <anon32> is it good? or is it like vista eye candy?
[11:02] <es1> accelerates?  As in 10 m per second per second as it falls to the ground
[11:02] <MrObvious> I did the en layout.
[11:03] <ladydoor> MrObvious: oh, i see. well, the apostrophe key is a "dead-key"
[11:03] <overshard> anon32: it is mostly a 3D desktop environment with tons of eye candy... makes Windows Vista look old :D
[11:03] <ladydoor> MrObvious: you hit it and then the accented letter
[11:03] <anon32> well... how do I use it?
[11:03] <overshard> anon32: infact if you really do like windows vista you can make linux look exactly like it
[11:03] <anon32> the download says it's 127KB... something's wrong
[11:04] <overshard> hmmm you must not be doing something right sec let me find a great tutorial thati used
[11:04] <ladydoor> MrObvious: quotes are above the number 2, semicolon is above comma, colon is above period, slash is above 7, - and _ are where / usually is...
[11:04] <aLPHa_LeaK> anon32: eh, no.
[11:04] <MrObvious> Hmm.
[11:04] <ladydoor> MrObvious:  is where = was,  is above that
[11:04] <anon32> something's not wrong?
[11:04] <anon32> well, how do I use it?
[11:04] <MrObvious> ladydoor: Oh thanks. That works
[11:04] <MrObvious> Now to set it to english before it drives me nuts lol.
[11:04] <ladydoor> MrObvious: and single-quote is where - usually is, with ? above that.
[11:05] <anon32> and voila... installed and nothing happened
[11:05] <ladydoor> MrObvious: lol. right
[11:05] <overshard> anon32: http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=916
[11:05] <overshard> anon32: much MUCH more then just installing a few files
[11:05] <overshard> anon32: it takes a bit of configuration
[11:05] <anon32> overshard, oh... then it's not worth it
[11:05] <jbinder> i
[11:05] <jbinder> hi*
[11:06] <overshard> anon32: it is definately worth it it makes linux look great :D
[11:06] <mart_> hi there, not sure if this is the correct place, someone may be able to help
[11:06] <anon32> overshard, ok... do I need crazy display drivers?
[11:06] <overshard> anon32: you can get it installed following that tutorial in like 5 - 10 mins
[11:06] <anon32> and do I need a crazy graphics card?
[11:06] <Mr_Congeniality> I just got a netsplit alert
[11:06] <mart_> I have glx and compiz running fine, but would like to change it so it uses my nvidia drivers
[11:06] <overshard> anon32: whats your current graphics card?
[11:06] <lansing> how do i install java when its on my desk top
[11:06] <anon32> it's an ATI x300
[11:06] <anon32> 32MB onboard, 96MB leech
[11:06] <jbinder> lansing: uhh... wtf
[11:07] <overshard> anon32: err hmmm dunno if that will even run it :S sorries
[11:07] <mart_> ive seen this is possible with beryl.... but do i need to remove glx and compiz before trying to install it?
[11:07] <Garbaek> How do I give a user access to sudo su on my LAMP Server ?
[11:07] <jbinder> lansing: extract the file
[11:07] <ladydoor> lansing: didn't like the repos' java, or just didn't know it existed? :-)
[11:07] <jbinder> is it a tar.gz?
[11:07] <anon32> overshard, well... worth a try... except that I NEED TO ADD SOURCES? WTF
[11:07] <jbinder> Garbaek:
[11:07] <overshard> Garbaek: edit the sudoers file in /etc/
[11:07] <ladydoor> !shout
[11:07] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:07] <jbinder> Garbaek: sudo visudo
[11:07] <Garbaek> thanks guys !
[11:07] <jbinder> Garbaek: or sudo nano /etc/sudoers
[11:07] <Flannel> !tell lansing about java
[11:08] <overshard> anon32: errr ya??? i doesn't come in the normal repos
[11:08] <lansing> thanx flannel
[11:08] <jbinder> !gasp
[11:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gasp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:08] <anon32> forget it then
[11:08] <ompaul> jbinder, only ever visudo it checks the sanity of the changes
[11:08] <anon32> I'm never compiling from source.... EVER
[11:08] <jbinder> ompaul: what?
[11:08] <Mr0bvious> ladydoor: There's supposed to be a way that you can do it with alt gr or something. I googled but couldn't get it to work.
[11:08] <ladydoor> anon32: adding repos does not equal compiling from source
[11:08] <jbinder> ompaul: ...visudo is the exact same thing as nano /etc/sudoers
[11:09] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell anon32 about easysource
[11:09] <anon32> then why the hell would I need the *source* repos?
[11:09] <lansing> flannel i got java already i need to load it from the terminal
[11:09] <ompaul> jbinder, no its not
[11:09] <Flannel> lansing: er, what?
[11:09] <overshard> anon32: ummmm you don't have to compile from source it comes in packages + compile from source gives you a 5% speed boost anyways
[11:09] <ladydoor> anon32: also, compiling from source has some advantages--for example, back when i used gaim, i couldn't install any plugins not in the repos until i installed from source.
[11:09] <jbinder> ompaul: uh... i get the same exact thing
[11:09] <ompaul> visudo edits the sudoers file in a safe fashion, analogous to vipw(8).
[11:09] <ladydoor> Mr0bvious: i don't know what exactly altgr is. i've also heard of it, but i don't know how it works.
[11:09] <jbinder> it doesn't really matter... you can edit it either way, just as easy
[11:09] <BlueEagle> anon32: You don't need the source repos, you need a source which is a synonym for a repository.
[11:10] <ompaul> jbinder, IT Does Matter!
[11:10] <anon32> well, I don't have a infinite-GHz infinite-cores CPU, so compiling is way out of the question
[11:10] <jbinder> no
[11:10] <es1> what method does ubuntu use for specifying modules if it does not use modules.conf?
[11:10] <anon32> BlueEagle, um... it says the source repos
[11:10] <jbinder> i use both of them whenever i feel like it, and they always both work
[11:10] <ompaul> jbinder, you are wrong read the man page for visudo
[11:10] <BlueEagle> anon32: Oh, I am sorry. I misunderstood then.
[11:10] <themagikphrog> hi all
[11:11] <pike_> es1: /etc/modules i believe
[11:11] <es1> k thanks
[11:11] <overshard> anon32: gentoo all the way :P
[11:11] <jbinder> ompaul: still, its basically the same thing... i just read it, the main description
[11:11] <BlueEagle> !xgl
[11:11] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:11] <ompaul> jbinder, if you make an error with nano nothing saves you, if you use visudo then you get syntax all the way
[11:11] <jbinder> not too different
[11:11] <jbinder> barely
[11:11] <jbinder> i know
[11:11] <jbinder> i use visudo most of the time
[11:11] <ompaul> jbinder, so don't give new users bad info
[11:11] <themagikphrog> new to linux here. just installed simply mepis. love it
[11:11] <jbinder> but its still pretty easy to figure out where your mistake was
[11:11] <themagikphrog> any tips
[11:11] <jbinder> you dont NEED the visudo help
[11:11] <Flannel> themagikphrog: ask a mepis channel
[11:12] <ompaul> jbinder, not if you can't edit the file cos you broke the file ....
[11:12] <ladydoor> jbinder: no, but it's always best to give the most standard instructions possible.
[11:12] <themagikphrog> ok
[11:12] <pike_> well mepis is really just ubuntu..
[11:12] <ompaul> jbinder, ergo a safety net is better, and should only be suggested
[11:12] <anon32> ok... I was being stupid... although my graphics card will probably die if I try
[11:12] <anon32> then again, some eye candy is better than none
[11:12] <tuxtux> notte a tutti
[11:12] <overshard> use /usr/sbin/userdel -r baduserbad
[11:12] <ompaul> !it
[11:12] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:13] <jbinder> wtf
[11:14] <anon32> overshard, how can you delete users recursively?
[11:14] <lansing> ive already downloaded jave i just need to install it usein terminal
[11:14] <Flannel> lansing: When you download java from the repositories, it installs it.
[11:14] <overshard> anon32: ... it doesn't delete recursively... learn to read man pages... it delets the users home directory
[11:15] <Centaur5> I have an Averatec laptop that can't even boot off a Dapper install cd because of a kernel error.  Is it therefore impossible to put Ubuntu on this laptop?
[11:15] <Flannel> Centaur5: tried the alternate ISO?
[11:15] <lansing> sudo apt-get <<<
[11:15] <anon32> overshard, meh... I was being lazy and assumed options were standardized like in MS PowerShell
[11:15] <avagant> I like the rounded look kinda, but it just feels too contrived. Maybe I should go for a Windows look. xD
[11:16] <Centaur5> Flannel: Yes, I tried the live cd, alternate, and the edgy alternate and the same thing happens.
[11:16] <Flannel> Centaur5: what error is it?
[11:16] <overshard> anon32: in MS one company does them all so they standardize in linux many people do it and there are so many options that they just kinda do what they can... thus the use of man pages
[11:16] <lansing> hey avagant
[11:16] <lansing> how r u
[11:16] <avagant> I'm alright.
[11:16] <host`> wow, people make installing mplayer out to be hard
[11:16] <ompaul> !offtopic
[11:16] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:16] <avagant> You getting any better at this whole ubuntu thing?
[11:16] <lansing> a lil
[11:16] <host`> there are simple instruction on ubuntu's page about how to do it and when followed, it works
[11:16] <TheGateKeeper> lansing: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[11:17] <pike_> Centaur5: you probably just need to pass a boot option in grub
[11:17] <Centaur5> Flannel: Oh my gosh, it might actually be working all the sudden.
[11:17] <avagant> lansing: I would advice before you do ANYTHING else, to definitley do some reading.
[11:17] <Vornotron> gnar.  X doesn't know what it's looking at for my video card, and I have know idea what /I'm/ looking at for my video card, so I'm stuck in 1024x768@61Hz, and it gives me a headache.
[11:17] <lansing> ok
[11:17] <avagant> lansing: You could break your Ubuntu install in ONE keystroke I should know.
[11:17] <Flannel> TheGateKeeper, no.  There's a perfectly fine howto in the ubuntu wiki
[11:17] <Centaur5> Right now it's still stuck on mounting root filesystem using the live cd...still waiting
[11:17] <avagant> I'm telling you, I've reinstalled 5 times now.
[11:17] <kmaynard> avagant, thank goodness i dont have that key
[11:18] <avagant> kmaynard: Hahaha.
[11:18] <black_13> is the correct place to ask question about kubuntu?
[11:18] <sonyoandreas> Things to do: 1. quit your job.  2. go to http://www.milliondollarscience.com   3. start making some freakin' money!   4 get filthy rich within 12 months!
[11:18] <Flannel> lansing: Use the wiki guide.  It's simple, you still use package management. There's no reason not to.
[11:18] <Centaur5> That is already more than I got before.
[11:18] <host`> black_13, yes
[11:18] <lansing> wat site do i go to for breezy stuff
[11:18] <host`> er no
[11:18] <avagant> Do you have breezy?
[11:18] <host`> I don't know
[11:18] <Flannel> ompaul. ping.
[11:18] <ladydoor> black_13: if it's KDE specific, i'd go to #kubuntu, but if not here's fine
[11:18] <ompaul> ack
[11:18] <sonyoandreas> so u want to make 10 dollars right now
[11:18] <ompaul> Flannel, ack
[11:18] <ladydoor> !u
[11:18] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[11:18] <sonyoandreas> just go to million dollar science
[11:18] <Flannel> ompaul, sonyoandreas.
[11:18] <ladydoor> !advice
[11:18] <black_13> would the correct way to install mc be apt-get install mc?
[11:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about advice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:18] <anon32> huh.... when compiz kills my system, I'll be back
[11:18] <ompaul> k
[11:19] <ines> with what for a command can i go to the german ubuntu channel ????
[11:19] <hardkaare> hi is there any version of ffmpeg out for dapper with meg4 support(need it for gallery2)
[11:19] <avagant> Maybe I should try another wm, but I'm afraid to.
[11:19] <Flannel> ines: /join #ubuntu-de
[11:19] <avagant> I've got everything working just the way I want it.
[11:19] <ladydoor> there should really be an ubotu post explaining the difference between the word "advise" and the word "advice..."
[11:19] <hardkaare> mpeg4 even
[11:19] <ines> thx flannel
[11:19] <black_13> because im trying that and "E: Couldn't find package mc"
[11:19] <avagant> For any advice on anythin you could also go to www.ubuntuforums.org
[11:19] <ladydoor> !mc
[11:19] <avagant> =D
[11:19] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2073 kB, installed size 5952 kB
[11:19] <hardkaare> !ffmpeg
[11:19] <ubotu> ffmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20050918-5ubuntu1.1 (dapper), package size 3835 kB, installed size 9816 kB
[11:19] <flake> is there an equivalent autoexec.bat type file
[11:19] <Flannel> lansing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-12dfa90d1580b2a1d946cc628a1c0d2bdaa5b259  for Breezy
[11:20] <ladydoor> black_13: have you enabled the universe repository?
[11:20] <overshard> well thats odd... i send an email to sales@myserver.com and it goes to randomuser@myserver.com :S
[11:20] <hardkaare> !mpeg4
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpeg4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <puff> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26360/
[11:20] <anon32> hmm, is mc better than nautilus?
[11:20] <Flannel> black_13: believe midnight commander is in universe
[11:20] <black_13> ladydoor let me see
[11:20] <ladydoor> flake: what does that do?
[11:20] <Lane> How would one make it so that only ssl connections were allowed in vsftpd, I didnt see anything in the config file, am I just missing it?
[11:20] <overshard> !postfix
[11:20] <hardkaare> !gallery
[11:20] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[11:20] <ubotu> gallery: a web-based photo album written in php. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.1-1 (dapper), package size 7209 kB, installed size 25056 kB
[11:20] <puff> Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/lvm2_2.02.02-1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[11:20] <kismet_> dual boot question: can I install an OS on a secondary IDE channel drive?
[11:20] <flake> so i can run a script that will connect my wireless card when i boot up
[11:20] <puff> help?
[11:20] <Flannel> black_13: you need universe enabled
[11:20] <Flannel> kismet_: yes
[11:21] <black_13> yep i just added that to the sources.list
[11:21] <flake>  /sbin/ifup eth1     which would need to run as root
[11:21] <plasma> irc://irc.velocityirc.net/elitewarez
[11:21] <avagant> hahahaha
[11:21] <ladydoor> black_13: cool. then do sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install mc
[11:21] <avagant> lol warez.
[11:21] <kismet_> Flannel, any special tricks to get the MBR of the Primary IDE drive to work right?
[11:21] <Centaur5> Flannel: [4294671.989000]  ..MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC
[11:21] <black_13>  i havent used ubuntu/debian in a while
[11:21] <lansing> wats the ifo site  for breezy
[11:21] <Flannel> kismet_: it should work fine
[11:21] <anon32> plasma, wtf?
[11:21] <anon32> !warez
[11:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about warez - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:21] <Flannel> lansing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-12dfa90d1580b2a1d946cc628a1c0d2bdaa5b259  for Breezy
[11:21] <kismet_> Flannel: thanks! If it breaks, i'm coming for you. ;)
[11:21] <lansing> thanx flannel
[11:22] <host`> I apt-geted mc just fine
[11:22] <ladydoor> black_13: yeah, it happens
[11:22] <host`> apt-got might be the correct term
[11:22] <anon32> how do I retrieve a package description with apt?
[11:22] <chinko> can anyone help me? my ubuntu installation keeps locking up on me. i tried ide=nodma, disabling USB2.0, disconnecting all my usb devices, and most of the things mentioned in the help threads, and it either hangs shortly before the agp aparture is 128mb@ such&such line, or actually on it. anyone have an idea why? im running a celeron 2ghz with a nvidia geforce FX5200 on an ASROCK P4I65GV mobo, 512 ram, 2 optical drives and two western digital drives (2
[11:22] <host`> aptitude
[11:22] <Flannel> anon32: apt-cache show [package]  or apt-cache showpkg [package]  depending on what info you want
[11:23] <ompaul> chinko, a few more at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[11:23] <Centaur5> pike_: How would I find out what command line option to do?
[11:23] <chinko> thanks, i'll read that now
[11:23] <lansing> wen iam at the index page wat java do i gat jre or bin
[11:23] <sarah> hey guys
[11:24] <sarah> got a question
[11:24] <sarah> Just installed this software:  http://www.ubuntugames.org/Tremulous
[11:24] <kakado> hardkaare, ffmpeg has for a long time had mpeg4
[11:24] <Flannel> lansing: that page says to get both, sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-06-1_i386.deb and sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-06-1_all.deb
[11:24] <sarah> and I get an error message when I start it
[11:24] <ladydoor> \me gives a cheer for women linux users!
[11:24] <sarah> seems to be an error based on OpenGL
[11:24] <sarah> but I am not sure
[11:24] <hardkaare> kakado: hmm, but it dossent work for me
[11:24] <sarah> I will paste the output to pastebin
[11:24] <overshard> .... bash "man woman" ... :S
[11:24] <lansing> ok
[11:25] <IcemanV9> hmm, is there a way I can see the list of what has been updated when i issued "aptitude update"?? something ain't right with volume control. if i remember it was libmusic something
[11:25] <overshard> no man page for woman :S
[11:25] <ines> can somebody help me to install java please
[11:25] <fdsd> hey guys, I am customizing the ubuntu livecd for my school, we are going to use it for data recovery, I have a shell script that starts on tty1, but its really annoying because dmesg messages keep interupting the script, how do I turn that off?
[11:25] <Flannel> !tell ines about java
[11:25] <overshard> !tell overshard about java
[11:25] <LjL> hm, i see this Tremulous is in edgy (even though Ubotu doesn't seem to know)
[11:25] <lansing> open with archive man or save to disk
[11:26] <Flannel> info tremulous edgy
[11:26] <ladydoor> overshard: for documentation of emacs modes, i'd check in the texinfo.
[11:26] <Flannel> !info tremulous edgy
[11:26] <ubotu> tremulous: Aliens vs Humans, team based FPS game with elements of an RTS. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.0-2 (edgy), package size 1153 kB, installed size 2740 kB
[11:26] <overshard> ladydoor???? i don't us emacs
[11:26] <jokoon> Hello, I'd like to install cabextract ( http://www.kyz.uklinux.net/cabextract.php ) but I don't know where is the file
[11:26] <Flannel> sarah: you might try asking in #ubuntu+1, that's the edgy channel
[11:26] <flake> is there an autoexec.bat type file i can use in ubuntu
[11:26] <sarah> Here we go:
[11:26] <LjL> Flannel: ah. i was under the impression that the "edgy" wasn't needed for packages that are not in dapper
[11:26] <sarah> http://sial.org/pbot/20364?tx=on&submit=Format+it%21
[11:26] <ladydoor> overshard: oh, sorry...i thought you were talking about woman-mode (w/o man)...lol
[11:27] <sarah> Flannel: I am not on edgy
[11:27] <sarah> Flannel: I am using Dapper Drake
[11:27] <Flannel> sarah: Er... tremulous isn't in Dapper, is it?
[11:27] <fdsd> hey guys, I am customizing the ubuntu livecd for my school, we are going to use it for data recovery, I have a shell script that starts on tty1, but its really annoying because dmesg messages keep interupting the script, how do I turn that off?
[11:28] <ladydoor> fdsd: have it start you in tty2?
[11:28] <fdsd> ladydoor, cant
[11:28] <ladydoor> fdsd: oh.
[11:28] <TheGateKeeper> Flannel: this your perfectly good how to? ---> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[11:29] <fdsd> ladydoor, ubuntu boots into tty1
[11:29] <aFx> good morning
[11:29] <ladydoor> fdsd: right, but you can press alt+f2 to go to tty2
[11:29] <enz0h> anyone know of any install issues with the Edgy beta desktop CD?  I'm in it right now but the install to HDD app is hanging
[11:29] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[11:29] <jokoon> Does anybody how install tahoma font on ubuntu ?
[11:29] <Flannel> enz0h: #ubuntu+1
[11:29] <jokoon> +know
[11:29] <fdsd> ladydoor, this is an app for techs at my school to run, I want it simple, so booting right to my script is the only way its going to work
[11:29] <flake> if i add that /sbin/ifup eth1 to my /etc/network/interfaces, that should bring it up?
[11:29] <ladydoor> fdsd: ah, i see.
[11:30] <sarah> just got it to run with "tremulous +set r_allowSoftwareGL 1" but VERY slow - any idea how to make it run faster?
[11:30] <puff> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26361/
[11:30] <pulver> hey! is splashy working nicely with ubuntu yet?
[11:30] <ladydoor> jokoon: is it in mstcorefonts or whatever?
[11:30] <ladydoor> !msttcorefonts
[11:30] <Weber> Can someone tell me, why I can't activate sulogin?
[11:30] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[11:30] <flake> think i'll try that, i don't see why it wouldn't
[11:30] <puff> Can somebody help me?
[11:30] <jokoon> ladydoor: I have a message in the terminal "not candidate" or something like that
[11:31] <puff> I'm getting an error on dist-upgrading from breezy to dapper, and now firefox is hozed so I can't even google on the error...
[11:31] <bearcat> question: I'm using Xchat in Ubuntu.  How do I add another chatserver, specifically I want to add irc.newnet.net
[11:31] <ladydoor> jokoon: is multiverse enabled?
[11:31] <jokoon> ladydoor: Don't know
[11:31] <ladydoor> bearcat: /connect irc.newnet.net
[11:31] <Flannel> puff: pastebin your sources.list
[11:31] <Weber> Can someone tell me, why I can't activate sulogin?
[11:31] <jachyra> How do I download torrents using Ubuntu from bash? Plz help
[11:31] <bearcat> ah, ty ladydoor
[11:31] <ladydoor> jokoon: ok...read ubotu's pm in a sec
[11:31] <ladydoor> bearcat: np
[11:31] <ladydoor> !tell jokoon about repositories
[11:32] <ladydoor> jokoon: (if you don't know, it's not enabled)
[11:32] <jokoon> ok ty
[11:32] <lansing> i got both of them now ,, wat do i type in the terminal to extract them
[11:32] <puff> Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26362/
[11:32] <Flannel> lansing: that page tells you exactly what to type
[11:32] <bearcat> I put irc.newnet.net in as a new chatserver, and hit connect  (that didn't work)  or do I put 'connect irc.newnet.net'  in the list of chatservers?
[11:32] <puff> I hope that's my sources.list, can't really see in firefox.
[11:32] <Flannel> Weber: have you tried the recovery console?
[11:32] <paul0> damn, i've upgraded my ubuntu to Edgy Beta, and X doesn't work anymore
[11:32] <paul0> i hate my monitor
[11:32] <Flannel> puff: use lynx
[11:33] <puff> Yeah, just did, that's them.
[11:33] <aimaz> how do you think ubuntu with xfce would run on Pentium 2 366MHz?
[11:33] <jachyra> Can someone please tell me how I can download torrents from bash? I'm new to Linux
[11:33] <fdsd> hey guys, I am customizing the ubuntu livecd for my school, we are going to use it for data recovery, I have a shell script that starts on tty1, but its really annoying because dmesg messages keep interupting the script, how do I turn that off?
[11:33] <aimaz> jachyra, look into the btdownloadcurses program
[11:33] <aimaz> i forget what package it is in
[11:34] <Weber> Flannel, No. But when I try to activate it, by command "sudo -i" and then "sudo passwd root" nothing happens.
[11:34] <jachyra> aimaz: thanks!
[11:34] <IcemanV9> aimaz: it'll run fine; much faster than gnome or kde if you're wondering
[11:34] <proudtexan> does anybody know where kernel source is stored?
[11:34] <ladydoor> jachyra: or try rtorrent or bittornado
[11:34] <ladydoor> jachyra: they're both popular.
[11:34] <pike_> aimaz: ok probably but you might try fluxbox or alternatives after the xubuntu install
[11:34] <jachyra> ladydoor: thank you!
[11:34] <ladydoor> jachyra: np
[11:34] <paul0> someone here know the right HorizSync and VertRefresh for Synmaster 3 monitors
[11:35] <ladydoor> Weber: you don't need to use sudo after sudo -i, because as root you are all-powerful :-)
[11:35] <aimaz> ok, thanks guys
[11:35] <pike_> aimaz: i use xinit instead of gdm and fluxbox on my older computer
[11:35] <boink> paul0: depends on the monitor
[11:35] <aimaz> pike_, ok
[11:35] <aimaz> any other things i could replace to speed it up a bit?
[11:35] <ricanelite> im using KDE desktop, is it possible for me to put the trash bin on the desktop?
[11:35] <boink> you should be able to get that from the documentation
[11:35] <ladydoor> Weber: however, it's not recommended to set a root password. only do it if you absolutely know what you're doing!
[11:35] <lansing> wat do i do if it installed it in to my tmp folder
[11:35] <ladydoor> !root
[11:35] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:35] <Weber> ladydoor, I know what I am doing
[11:35] <puff> Hm, I just went to try to apt-get remove/install firefox and it appears to be continuing iwth the dist-upgrade.
[11:35] <paul0> boink: Syncmaster 3
[11:36] <LjL> Weber: then out of curiosity, may i ask what you need a root account for?
[11:36] <ladydoor> Weber: cool. then the point is that after doing sudo -i you don't preface commands with sudo
[11:36] <ricanelite> how can you remove uninstall VMware?
[11:36] <Weber> LjL, because I have always be used to use su...
[11:36] <LjL> Weber: ah, good reason.
[11:37] <Weber> LjL, its non of your buisness
[11:37] <Weber> it's*
[11:37] <pike_> ricanelite: there is a vmware-uninstall.pl in /usr/bin probably
[11:37] <LjL> Weber: i just said it was a good reason.
[11:38] <Weber> ladydoor, the funny thing about this is, that if I try to use a root command, it says that I don't have the adminstration prevelgies ?
[11:38] <jvai> hey is Bastille needed for a ubuntu workstation? i dl'ed last nyte, but it seems my default setup is ok.. & Bastille wasnt needed
[11:38] <anon32> :-( glx was evil
[11:38] <ladydoor> Weber: weird. what's your bash prompt say?
[11:38] <[H] 3b0R> how do i install the kernel-source for my current kernel?
[11:38] <Weber> just a sec
[11:38] <ladydoor> Weber: (are you talking about after having done sudo -i to su to root?)
[11:38] <anon32> is there a replacement file manager for nautilus (just asking)?
[11:39] <ladydoor> anon32: there are a lot of file managers.
[11:39] <Weber> ladydoor, both
[11:39] <jordan> anon32, Yes.
[11:39] <jvai> aqnybody using Debian's Bastille?
[11:39] <puff> I really don't like using "run the dist-upgrade until it stops complaining" approach.
[11:39] <puff> Hm.
[11:39] <ladydoor> Weber: are you in the group admin? less /etc/group|grep admin
[11:39] <jordan> anon32, thor, konqueror, there are a lot of them.
[11:39] <ricanelite> i dont see it in /sr/bin
[11:39] <anon32> ok
[11:39] <Lisos> how can i mount my files of my system in the sesion of a live cd?
[11:39] <jvai> aaaaac
[11:40] <ricanelite> i dont see it in /usr/bin
[11:40] <enz0h> anyone know of any install issues with the Edgy beta desktop CD?  I'm in it right now but the install to HDD app is hanging
[11:40] <ladydoor> anon32: mc is one of the earliest but most featureful. there're bunches of graphical mc wannabes, too
[11:40] <Weber> ladydoor, command "passwd root" bash: You do not have permissions to see the password informations for root
[11:40] <anon32> Weber, did you sudo?
[11:40] <ladydoor> anon32: he's theoretically sudo -i'd
[11:40] <Weber> anon32, yes.
[11:40] <jordan> Lisos, What type of partition is it, fat32, NTFS?
[11:40] <pike_> ricanelite: try doing a locate "locate vmware-uninstall.pl"
[11:41] <ladydoor> Weber: a) what's your bash prompt say and b) what was the output of cat /etc/group|grep admin?
[11:41] <ricanelite> on terminal? please forgive me im a linux newbie
[11:41] <Lisos> jordan they ae my ubuntu files
[11:41] <anon32> Lisos - mount -t (filesystem type) (device name) /mount
[11:41] <DemisM> what do i use to view dvd's and divx files?
[11:41] <[H] 3b0R> anyone?
[11:41] <anon32> !format
[11:41] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[11:41] <patconnexion> hello ...  is ATI RADEON MOBILITY 7500 enough to install XGL ?
[11:41] <pike_> ricanelite: yeah just type that in terminal
[11:41] <jvai> totem
[11:41] <anon32> !restrictedformats
[11:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:41] <anon32> argh
[11:41] <jordan> Lisos, Is Ubuntu the only OS are your computer?
[11:41] <Weber> ladydoor, command "passwd root" bash: You do not have permissions to see the password informations for root
[11:42] <jvai> i give up
[11:42] <Lisos> i dont know what are the filesystem and device name , they are in a ubntu sesion and my user is jx0 can u comlpete please , sorry but i am nebie , anon32
[11:42] <proudtexan> Lisos: mount /dev/whichever_filesystem /mnt/whichever_mountpoint
[11:42] <ladydoor> Weber: no, what does your prompt say? i.e., what does the fixed text before you start typing say?
[11:42] <pike_> ricanelite: did you install the player through apt-get or use download the vmware installer?
[11:42] <puff> Flannel: Okay, oddly enough apt-get remove mozilla-firefox ran successfully, but firefox still runs and now runs correctly.
[11:42] <ricanelite> okay typed it in and it just goes back to ricanelite@ubuntu:~$
[11:42] <Weber> ladydoor, now Im confused.
[11:42] <Lane> Help please, How would one make it so that only ssl connections were allowed in vsftpd, I didnt see anything in the config file, am I just missing it?
[11:42] <LoRe> i've read somewhere about an apt repository containing profiled libraries, does somebody know where it is?
[11:42] <puff> Flannel: But dist-upgrade is still failing on /var/cache/apt/archives/lvm2_2.02.02-1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[11:42] <ricanelite> well im talking about VMware the Virtual PC app
[11:43] <anon32> Lisos, how many partitions (drives) do you have, and what's your hard drive type?
[11:43] <pike_> ricanelite: yeah you want to uninstall it right?
[11:43] <ricanelite> yeah
[11:43] <lansing> after i install the unixodbc file it says dpkg: status database area is locked by another process wat do i do
[11:43] <ladydoor> Weber: for example, mine says door@labyrinth:~/misc/latex$
[11:43] <pike_> ricanelite: how did you install?
[11:43] <ricanelite> well i downloaded it from vmware.com
[11:43] <cbx33> hey grahamldlw
[11:43] <pike_> ricanelite: the player?
[11:43] <ricanelite> and extracted it and put in some commands in the terminal
[11:43] <Lisos> 2 partition one to windows and one for ubuntu , i want mount my ubuntu files , hda1 is the hard drive and ext3 , anon32
[11:43] <grahamldlw> if i wanna install .tar.gz files or .run files how do i do it? i downloaded some games lol
[11:44] <black_13> !kernel
[11:44] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:44] <Weber> ladydoor, /etc/group|grep admin says lpadmin:x:106:oem,nicolas admin:x:112:
[11:44] <ladydoor> grahamldlw: tar xzf for tar.gz. i don't know about .run
[11:44] <anon32> Lisos, sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 (empty directory path)
[11:44] <cbx33> grahamldlw, ahhh
[11:44] <cbx33> those gamse not available via apt-get?
[11:44] <LjL> grahamldlw: have you made sure those games are not in the repositories, to start with? if not, then 1) .tar.gz is an archive format, similar to .zip... so it just contains files. what you do with them depends on the files  2) for .bin, you can type ./filename.bin
[11:44] <grahamldlw> no i tried them and it wudent do it
[11:44] <pulver> hi, is it safe to remove usplash or will it mess up the boot process?
[11:44] <Weber> ladydoor, ahh. nothing. Im in home dir, and not as root...
[11:45] <LjL> grahamldlw: what games are those anyway?
[11:45] <Lisos> anon32 , so if i go to livecd sesion and i type sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 (empty directory path) is ready??
[11:45] <grahamldlw> btw i am a brand new user to linux/ubuntu so i dont have a clue what to do!
[11:45] <ladydoor> Weber: ok, this is a problem. you're not in the admin group, which means you don't have sudo rights. do you have an admin user account?
[11:45] <jordan> Lisos, Type `parted` then `print` and paste the output to pastebin.
[11:45] <fdsd> do you guys know if its syslogd or klogd that gives the messages to tty1?
[11:45] <anon32> Lisos, yea... make sure you replace the parenthetical with an actual directory
[11:45] <paul0> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[11:45] <Weber> ladydoor ?
[11:45] <cbx33> grahamldlw, well....it all depends what you downloaded
[11:45] <paul0> what is the right xorg driver for me
[11:45] <ladydoor> Weber: i guess not. you need to boot into single-user mode to fix this.
[11:45] <sladen> pulver: just remove 'splash' from the kernel command line
[11:45] <lansing> hey avagant can u message me for a min i need a lil assistance
[11:45] <anon32> paul0, how should I know?
[11:46] <LjL> grahamldlw: answer this first, just to make sure there isn't an easier means -- what games are those?
[11:46] <paul0> anon32: i hope, that someone who know tell me
[11:46] <sladen> paul0: you want i810, it would be automatically configured
[11:46] <nr> anyone know why ubuntu's firefox 1.5.0.7 would report javascript 1.4 instead of 1.5, or is this probably a problem with a website's browser check?
[11:46] <Lisos> anon32 thanks jordan u 2
[11:46] <Lisos> i will try
[11:46] <Lisos> thanks
[11:46] <paul0> sladen: yeah, but isn't working
[11:46] <Weber> ladydoor, If I didnt knew better, I would say, that I am in single-user mode.
[11:46] <pulver> sladen, but i want to install splashy which is in conflict with usplash
[11:46] <anon32> paul0, if I don't know your situation, how can I recommend files for you?
[11:46] <sladen> paul0: "what" isn't work?
[11:46] <paul0> sladen: i can get my Syncmaster 3 monitor working
[11:46] <LjL> Weber: if you were in single user mode, you'd be root, though
[11:46] <grahamldlw> free col and ta3d i think it is for the .tar.gz/tar.nz2 and for the .run its ufoai
[11:46] <sladen> paul0: right
[11:47] <ladydoor> Weber: reboot and then select ``recovery-mode''...when you're there, do nano -w /etc/group and add your username to the group admin. then reboot into normal and you should be able to use sudo. you might should write down the gist of these instructions.
[11:47] <fulat2k> hi folks, i've got 2 nic interfaces (eth0 and wlan0) on my pc.  even though i can successfully bind to my wifi network, dhclient simply refuses to get any DHCPOFFER from the router.  is there anything i missed out?  used both networkmanager and network config tools from gnome and kde.
[11:47] <gthb> is ntfs writing in edgy safe?
[11:47] <proudtexan> can anybody direct me to instructions for adding a special driver to ubuntu
[11:47] <sladen> paul0: and what monitor doesn't work?
[11:47] <paul0> sladen: i've used to make it work under xfree86's xf86cfg, but now i can't anymore
[11:47] <LjL> gthb: edgy itself is unsafe. it's a beta distro.
[11:47] <sladen> proudtexan: what "special driver" would you like to add?
[11:47] <ladydoor> Weber: it will be a fullscreen terminal, but those don't always have to be scary. it'll be fine if you do just that. and reboot is the command to reboot from the commandline
[11:47] <Weber> ladydoor, im sitting on my secondary laptop, its on the other the problem is..
[11:47] <ladydoor> !ntfs
[11:47] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:48] <proudtexan> for dell truemobile wlan card
[11:48] <sladen> paul0: try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure --phigh xserver-xorg
[11:48] <ladydoor> Weber: ok, cool. in that case try that and once you save your install by doing this you can try setting the root password again.
[11:48] <gthb> LjL, I'm aware of that, I was more referring to what method does edgy use to write to ntfs
[11:48] <paul0> sladen: may i send my Xorg log to you
[11:48] <paul0> sladen: i'll try
[11:48] <sladen> proudtexan: that's an Orinoco, it will work out of the box
[11:48] <THX-1138> Xineram/Twinveiw - Please paste an xorg.conf for me.
[11:48] <sladen> paul0: /topic
[11:48] <anon32> is there a way to disable file cacheing in gnomebaker? I don't have disk space to cache a DVD image
[11:48] <proudtexan> i want to use it in rfmon mode for which i need to install a patched driver
[11:48] <DemisM> how can I check if my gfx accel is working?
[11:49] <jordan> Mouseemu makes my cursor no longer useable ( can't move it ), can someone help me troubleshoot it or tell me another way to set F12 to act as a right click.
[11:49] <sladen> paul0: use the pastebin the topic
[11:49] <anon32> DemisM, let's see... drag your IRC window over the screen
[11:49] <sladen> anon32: I'm not sure, have you tried Googling?
[11:49] <anon32> sladen, meh
[11:49] <sladen> anon32: eg.  gnomebaker no cache
[11:49] <LjL> grahamldlw: for ta3d, you will need to compile.
[11:49] <ladydoor> jordan: http://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison
[11:49] <grahamldlw> can anyone help with how to install some .tar.bz2 files?
[11:49] <grahamldlw> ok well i dunno how to do that so that aint happening
[11:49] <THX-1138> aon32 - dd - will write from one device to the next. - it is a hassle though.
[11:49] <bruenig> grahamldlw, what is the program?
[11:50] <THX-1138> sladen - nice tip
[11:50] <sladen> grahamldlw: tar jxvf foo.tar.bz2   or just double click on them.  What .tar.bz2 are you attempting to install?
[11:50] <anon32> THX-1138, what happens if I change the partition that the cache is on then?
[11:50] <ladydoor> grahamldlw: first extract them with tar xzf. then cd to the directory and let me know if there's a file called configure (there should be)
[11:50] <grahamldlw> ok dosent matter forget it im just gonna delete it, windows is easier
[11:50] <LjL> !compile > grahamldlw
[11:50] <grahamldlw> cheers anyway
[11:50] <jordan> ladydoor, I would like to use Gnome.
[11:50] <piratepenguin> can ubuntu not handle ATI Radeon x850 video cards (on an amd 64 cpu if that matters)?
[11:50] <ladydoor> jordan: ah. no idea then.
[11:50] <LjL> grahamldlw: have fun
[11:50] <THX-1138> anon32 - sladen had the answer for gnomebaker
[11:50] <djuuss> its not easier...
[11:50] <bruenig> grahamldlw, lol ok. Bye
[11:50] <Weber> ladydoor, sudo:x:27 is that the admin group ?
[11:50] <djuuss> ohhhh lets not start this again :(
[11:50] <ladydoor> grahamldlw: errr...lol.
[11:50] <paul0> sladen: sorry, but i don't know how to paste there since i'm using the text-mode
[11:50] <anon32> ok
[11:51] <proudtexan> sladen: i'm trying to use the card in rfmon mode which i understand requires a patched driver
[11:51] <fdsd> Hey guys, how do I have klogd and syslogd to not spit messages into tty1?
[11:51] <anon32> you know, "Google it for f***'s sake isn't a great answer
[11:51] <ladydoor> Weber: it's the one that should say admin:x:112:
[11:51] <grahamldlw> well of course u lot find it easy! u use it! im a student! hu's only ever used windows!
[11:51] <paul0> sladen: reconfiguring with -phigh didn't work
[11:51] <ladydoor> !u
[11:51] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[11:51] <bruenig> volunteers in here trying to help him install this package he wants and he refuses it
[11:51] <grahamldlw> hu only got ubuntu on here in the first place cuz i accidentlly deleted windows
[11:51] <fdsd> im offically making U a pronoun
[11:51] <sladen> paul0: what "doesn't work"  What do you see on the screen
[11:51] <ladydoor> grahamldlw: what're you trying to install? it's not that hard if you're patient
[11:51] <aimaz> grahamldlw, if you tell us what they program is we might be able to suggest an easier way
[11:52] <Weber> ladydoor, done.
[11:52] <grahamldlw> ta3d-v-0-2-1.tar.bz2
[11:52] <djuuss> grahamldlw, your a student but you cant figure out something like compiling?
[11:52] <THX-1138> anon32 - man gnomebaker isn't a great answer either. - we only want encyclopedic knowledge. - we don't have it. - yet?
[11:52] <LjL> grahamldlw: ah, well, yes, i'm sure that using something helps making it easier to use it
[11:52] <sladen> paul0: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log  and see what the last error message is related to
[11:52] <paul0> sladen: i'm getting the same problem, "Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration."
[11:52] <grahamldlw> a student as in a fresher at college now a uni student
[11:52] <bruenig> accidentally deleted windows, hmmmm djuuss, thank about that last question...
[11:52] <grahamldlw> not*
[11:52] <anon32> THX-1138, ....
[11:52] <ladydoor> grahamldlw: there's a pretty set way of doing things. either you install using synaptic/adept/apt-get/aptitude,  which is generally a one-step deal, or you install from source, which can be usually up to 3 or 4 steps.
[11:52] <anon32> manpages are confusing
[11:52] <fdsd> Hey guys, how do I have klogd and syslogd to not spit messages into tty1?
[11:52] <THX-1138> anon32 - agreed.
[11:53] <sladen> paul0: can you try   sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[11:53] <bruenig> man pages aren't confusing, although I usually do command --help as that is faster
[11:53] <cpk2> reading through apt-get stuff though it looks like you can build using apt-get?
[11:53] <aimaz> grahamldlw, do you know how to open a terminal?
[11:53] <djuuss> grahamldlw, heh. I'm inclined to say some very insulting stuff, well, impulse, but other people might call it insulting. I won't
[11:53] <LjL> cpk2: you can. if there is a source package available
[11:53] <djuuss> impulsive*
[11:53] <anon32> bruenig, let's see... man gnomebaker.... gnomebaker is dev, missing features.... see also gnome... end
[11:53] <bruenig> aimaz, point and click to open something. I'm not doing that. Where is my windows cd.
[11:53] <LjL> cpk2: but then if there is a source package available, you can bet there is also the corresponding binary package
[11:54] <jordan> grahamldlw, What are you trying to install?
[11:54] <bruenig> anon32, bad man pages are bad. But man pages aren't in themselves bad.
[11:54] <aimaz> bruenig, heh
[11:54] <grahamldlw> yes i can open a terminal and only very very basically understand the sudo apt-get install and apt-cache search thing
[11:54] <sladen> cpk2: sudo apt-get build-dep foobar ; apt-get source -b foobar
[11:54] <cpk2> LjL: so its basically just for people with 64bit arch?
[11:54] <anon32> mm
[11:54] <DemisM> what xserver does ubuntu install by default?
[11:54] <anon32> foobar? it's a linux program?
[11:54] <sladen> cpk2: but you shouldn't need to have to recompile things
[11:54] <LjL> cpk2: uh, no. it's basically because there has to be a sane way of building packages
[11:54] <bruenig> xorg
[11:55] <sladen> anon32: foobar is like 'x' in mathematics.  It's a definate indefinate, replace it with the program you actually want
[11:55] <aimaz> gr33npho3nix, ok, so in the terminal use the cd command to change to the directory where you .bz2 file is
[11:55] <Weber> ladydoor, thx. It works.
[11:55] <aimaz> your*
[11:55] <anon32> oh... damn it, there's also a media player called foobar
[11:55] <aimaz> grahamldlw, even ^
[11:55] <LjL> cpk2: i mean, the guys that give you the binary packages have built it *somehow*
[11:55] <ladydoor> Weber: cool beans...so you edited it, rebooted, and now you can sudo?
[11:55] <Weber> Jep
[11:55] <jordan> grahamldlw, What are you trying to install?
[11:55] <Weber> yea
[11:55] <grahamldlw> cd command?
[11:55] <ladydoor> Weber: great!
[11:55] <sladen> DemisM: Xorg contains many video driver, the appropriate one for your video hardware is used
[11:56] <bruenig> grahamldlw, if you could give us a url of the package, I would be happy to download it and see what is necessary for you to install it
[11:56] <puff> Okay, now I'm in trouble... rebooted and now my wireless device has disappeared.
[11:56] <piratepenguin> can ubuntu not handle ATI Radeon x850 video cards (on an amd 64 cpu if that matters)?
[11:56] <puff> Hm.
[11:56] <aimaz> grahamldlw, i suggest you read a primer on linux, it's not windows, you need to learn a few things
[11:56] <grahamldlw> ta3d-v-0-2-1.tar.bz2 is what im tryin to install as this is only my second day using ubuntu or any other type of linux it makes it difficut to understand
[11:56] <puff> "SET failed on device eth1 ; No such device.
[11:56] <ricanelite> how can I check what is my harddrive space?
[11:56] <grahamldlw> see even the termonology is confusing
[11:56] <lansing> how do i search for a program thats on my computer
[11:56] <anon32> !ati
[11:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:56] <ladydoor> lansing: for the binary or for all its files?
[11:57] <sladen> LjL: you can rebuild the package 'foobar' with   sudo apt-get build-dep foobar ; apt-get source -b foobar
[11:57] <LjL> sladen: i know that
[11:57] <anon32> apt-get remvoe oooo
[11:57] <bruenig> alright grahamldlw where is it at right now? the Desktop?
[11:57] <ricanelite> how can i check my harddrive to see what type of space i have remaining?
[11:57] <grahamldlw> yes
[11:57] <jordan> !ta3d
[11:57] <ladydoor> ricanelite: df
[11:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ta3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:57] <ladydoor> ricanelite: just kidding. df -h
[11:58] <avagant> what's df?
[11:58] <avagant> !df
[11:58] <ubotu> Graphical representations of where your disk-space is being used are: baobab (GNOME), filelight / kinfocenter (Kubuntu). On the terminal: df -h -T
[11:58] <avagant> Ah.
[11:58] <LjL> avagant: a command that tells you how much space you've left on the drive.
[11:58] <avagant> O RLY
[11:58] <aFx> avagant : " df " it's command
[11:58] <bruenig> grahamldlw, ok, go to Applications>Accessories>terminal
[11:58] <lansing> well i juust got both the java files i need but it keep comein up wit this error sudo dpkg -i sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-06-1_all.deb
[11:58] <lansing> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[11:58] <ricanelite> nice thank you so much!!
[11:58] <avagant> Hey I'm doing pretty good!
[11:59] <Parisi> Hello
[11:59] <avagant> Hurray for me!
[11:59] <anon32> um... I have a P4 with HT.... according to the wiki, I should use a 686 kernel... why did the install give me a 386 one?
[11:59] <grahamldlw> i already have it open
[11:59] <bruenig> grahamldlw, ok type and then press enter "cd Desktop" or copy and paste
[11:59] <black_13> !aptitude
[11:59] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[11:59] <kitche> anon32: so it works on every system by default but you can install a 686 by looking for it's package
[11:59] <sladen> lansing: sudo apt-get install java2-runtime
[11:59] <IcemanV9> hmm, is there a way I can see the list of what has been updated when i issued "sudo aptitude dist-update"?? something ain't right with volume control. if i remember it was libmusic something
[11:59] <grahamldlw> ok dont worry about it forget it, cheers
[12:00] <bruenig> lol
[12:00] <anon32> kitche, huh... will hyperthreading not work in 386? if it does, I have no reason to change
[12:00] <ladydoor> IcemanV9: so you upgraded to edgy?
[12:00] <bruenig> we are like 5 commands away from it being installed
[12:00] <grahamldlw> im not as patient as u guys by any stretch
[12:00] <IcemanV9> ladydoor: not yet .. still on dapper
[12:00] <bruenig> grahamldlw, all you are going to have to do is copy and paste
[12:00] <ladydoor> grahamldlw: well, not all installations work like that
[12:01] <aFx> what bit is i686 ?
[12:01] <lansing> ok done that this is wat i get
[12:01] <kitche> anon32: nope it won't work 386 is for older machines but all 386 really means is it's optimazed for a i386 processor
[12:01] <lansing> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:01] <grahamldlw> grahamldlw@grahamldlw-desktop:~$ cd desktop
[12:01] <grahamldlw> bash: cd: desktop: No such file or directory
[12:01] <sladen> grahamldlw: cd ; tar jzxf ~/ta3d*tar.bz2
[12:01] <ladydoor> grahamldlw: for the most part, it just involves telling the package manager what to install and then suddenly it's installed.
[12:01] <ladydoor> grahamldlw: it's capitalized
[12:01] <anon32> :-(
[12:01] <sladen> grahamldlw: cd ; tar jzxf ~/Desktop/ta3d*tar.bz2
[12:01] <dgrantwork> how do I set up a fully qualified domain name on my box, similar to this: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Setup_Your_FQDN