| imbrandon | kwwii !! | 12:20 |
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| imbrandon | heh | 12:20 |
| imbrandon | the email to -devel said tomarrow is the deadline for RC | 12:21 |
| kwwii | hi imbrandon | 12:21 |
| imbrandon | heya | 12:21 |
| imbrandon | tomarrow as in thursday | 12:21 |
| kwwii | well, I will have an updated menu bar | 12:21 |
| imbrandon | cool | 12:21 |
| kwwii | I just cannot check out the bzr archinve | 12:22 |
| imbrandon | ouch, whats wrong ? | 12:22 |
| jdong | imbrandon: bzr reports a SFTP timeout | 12:22 |
| imbrandon | ahh prbably lp supermirror problems | 12:22 |
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| jdong | imbrandon: I got that when I tried a _checkout_ of one of my branches too | 12:22 |
| kwwii | jdong: thanks for saving me a lot of time | 12:22 |
| jdong | (checkouts are new features for supermirror) | 12:23 |
| jdong | kwwii: you might wanna try a plain old http branch | 12:23 |
| jdong | bzr branch http://path/to/branch | 12:23 |
| kwwii | jdong: same thing | 12:23 |
| imbrandon | kwwii, if you want i can upload changes the old way and fix bzr later | 12:23 |
| jdong | kwwii: over HTTP? | 12:23 |
| jdong | kwwii: http branching is working great for me | 12:23 |
| kwwii | imbrandon: I will send you two pics sometime soon | 12:24 |
| imbrandon | hum time for a little food, if you want kwwii give me a url to some changes i'll do it the old way for tonight and fix the bzr branch later | 12:24 |
| imbrandon | ok | 12:24 |
| imbrandon | or email them , what ever is easy for you | 12:24 |
| jdong | kwwii: bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kubuntu-default-settings/ubuntu kds | 12:26 |
| jdong | that worked fine for me | 12:26 |
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| xeros | echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward | 08:52 |
| xeros | sorry... | 08:53 |
| DaSkreech | heehee | 08:56 |
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| seaLne | xeros: there will prbably bit a bit of lag if you try forwarding over irc :) | 09:01 |
| seaLne | anyone know what "scott" on kubuntu-devel@ is meaning? | 09:02 |
| seaLne | i assumed buttons were icons but id don't see what he has listed | 09:04 |
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| danimo | moin | 09:31 |
| danimo | can we please get an exception for upgrading Qt 4 to 4.2? | 09:31 |
| danimo | Riddell: ? | 09:35 |
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| serzholino | hi! will kde 3.5.5 be shipped with edgy? | 10:02 |
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| crimsun | yes | 10:03 |
| crimsun | it's already in the archive | 10:03 |
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| serzholino | there is "KDE 3.5.5 is also being uploaded to Edgy" statement at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php, but packages.ubuntu.com shows 3.3.4 currntly | 10:04 |
| Hobbsee | serzholino: 3.3.4? scary. it's out of date | 10:05 |
| crimsun | 3.3.4? Whee, we're time travellers! | 10:07 |
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| serzholino | sorry, 3.5.4 :( | 10:15 |
| Hobbsee | serzholino: it needs to update - it shoudl automatically | 10:16 |
| serzholino | ok, thanks | 10:16 |
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| windshear | hello | 10:30 |
| windshear | anyone knows when Bug #30207 (floppy not working) will be fixed? | 10:30 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 30207 in kdebase "media:/ does not handle floppy mounting correctly" [Medium,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/30207 | 10:30 |
| Hobbsee | windshear: probably when someone actually figures where the problem is | 10:34 |
| windshear | hm, i think the problem is that the floppy is /dev/ | 10:35 |
| windshear | hm, i think the problem is that kubuntu thinks the floppy is /dev/ | 10:35 |
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| seaLne | mdz: http://behindubuntu.org/interviews/MattZimmerman/ sorry for the delay in getting it out | 10:57 |
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| Tonio_ | hi | 12:07 |
| Hobbsee | hey Tonio_! | 12:08 |
| Tonio_ | hey Hobbsee :) | 12:08 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: fancy revuing wengophone ? mdz is okay for an upgrade despite the universe freeze | 12:09 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: no, i'm about to go have dinner, sorry | 12:09 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: but since the packaging is completly different from the previous version, I'd like someone to revu | 12:09 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: no pb :) | 12:10 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, i saw. fair enough | 12:10 |
| seaLne | how is a package supposed to install symlinks for a library? | 12:27 |
| Riddell | it should create them during make install | 12:32 |
| Riddell | and you just .install them same as any other file | 12:32 |
| seaLne | Bug #64915 | 12:33 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 64915 in libqt-ruby-qt4 "libsmokeqt-qt4-dev is essentially empty" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64915 | 12:33 |
| seaLne | i notice i am missing a couple of files but even the .la isn't getting installed | 12:33 |
| === seaLne tries again | ||
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: just to tell you I try to improve the archives management in konq | 12:58 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: lots of people like the tar and zip ioslave, so I try to use the ark_part to manage this by default, since that'll work for all kind of archives. | 12:59 |
| Tonio_ | that'll give a better integration I presume | 12:59 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: mind we're in rc freeze now | 01:00 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I didn't say I wanted to upload this ;) | 01:00 |
| Tonio_ | that's just playground stuff | 01:00 |
| Tonio_ | if it works and if the result is really nice, then maybe we can discuss this or dismiss to edgy+1 | 01:01 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: it is just a matter of using ark_part instead of ark in the first place | 01:01 |
| Tonio_ | that doesn't change the program used or anything else, but the point isn't to upload this right now | 01:02 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: but that helps me to improve ark too, since for example mimetypes are incomplete... | 01:02 |
| Tonio_ | usefull for edgy+1 at least | 01:03 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: talking about that, mdz is okay for wengophone update, since current package in universe ftbfs | 01:07 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: any chance you can revy it ? the package is very different from current one and a bit complex, so I'd like someone to revu it before upload | 01:07 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: ok | 01:08 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: thanks | 01:08 |
| viviersf | bleh | 01:25 |
| viviersf | i take it kde 3.5.5 didnt make it to edgy | 01:25 |
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| Riddell | viviersf: it dild | 01:28 |
| Riddell | did | 01:28 |
| viviersf | :D | 01:29 |
| viviersf | kewl | 01:29 |
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| Lure | Riddell: do you plan to package another kde-guidance? at least one commited bug should be considered RC (the one with Apple laptops) | 01:40 |
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| Hobbsee | imbrandon: around? | 01:45 |
| Hobbsee | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135243 | 01:45 |
| Ubugtu | KDE bug 135243 in general "Collection scan aborts due to too many errors on smb-shares" [Normal,Resolved: invalid] | 01:45 |
| Hobbsee | seems that they have a solution for that taglib bug | 01:46 |
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| Riddell | Lure: sure, could you file a bug on launchpad with details and i'll target it | 01:50 |
| Lure | Riddell: bug 64053 (there is also partial fix for bug 64978 which is not RC) | 01:51 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 64053 in kde-guidance "does not recognize ibook as a laptop" [Medium,Fix committed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64053 | 01:51 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 64978 in kde-guidance "powermanager icon sometimes shows fully charged when not" [Undecided,Fix committed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64978 | 01:51 |
| Lure | Riddell: and _Sime wanted to have kde-guidance release instead of svnYYYYMMDD | 01:52 |
| Riddell | Lure: that would be nice | 01:55 |
| Lure | _Sime: will you issue new tar-ball release? | 01:56 |
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| Riddell | imbrandon: ping ping | 02:26 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: i'd say imbrandon_ is well and truly idle | 02:29 |
| Riddell | but we need him! | 02:30 |
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| danimo | moin | 02:31 |
| danimo | Riddell: ping? | 02:31 |
| Riddell | hi danimo | 02:31 |
| danimo | Riddell: kpdfpart is broken | 02:31 |
| Riddell | uh oh | 02:31 |
| danimo | Riddell: unresolved symbols | 02:31 |
| danimo | Riddell: does that sounds familar? :) | 02:31 |
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| Riddell | danimo: oh, kdegraphics 3.5.5 hasn't compiled yet | 02:33 |
| Riddell | it should do soon assuming the poppler fix I uploaded works | 02:33 |
| Riddell | although kdegraphics 3.5.4 shouldn't break just because you're using kdelibs 3.5.5 | 02:33 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: oh right, so you did fix poppler. i've been meaning to do that for a while | 02:34 |
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| dholbach | heya | 02:36 |
| dholbach | can anybody tell me a kde-ish way how to pair my phone with the box? | 02:36 |
| dholbach | is kbtserialchat the proper way? | 02:36 |
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| Hobbsee | dholbach: kanywaythatworks is also effective. :P | 02:37 |
| Riddell | dholbach: RockMan here knows all about kde and bluetooth | 02:37 |
| RockMan | hi | 02:37 |
| Riddell | 13:36 < dholbach> can anybody tell me a kde-ish way how to pair my phone with the box? | 02:37 |
| Riddell | 13:36 < dholbach> is kbtserialchat the proper way? | 02:37 |
| dholbach | RockMan: pleased to meet you | 02:37 |
| RockMan | dholbach: hi :) | 02:38 |
| RockMan | btw nope.. kbtserialchat is only for sending AT commands to the phone serial interface | 02:38 |
| dholbach | RockMan: you might have noticed that we switched to bluez 3.7 | 02:38 |
| danimo | Riddell: ok | 02:38 |
| dholbach | (in edgy) and this brings us bug 56651 | 02:38 |
| danimo | Riddell: what about Qt 4.2 btw? | 02:38 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 56651 in bluez-utils "Missing passkey-agent binary" [Unknown,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/56651 | 02:38 |
| RockMan | err.. no, since i don't use ubuntu :P | 02:38 |
| dholbach | ahhhh ok :-) | 02:38 |
| dholbach | but you might be familiar with the implications of using bluez 3.7 and pairing :-) | 02:39 |
| RockMan | although i've installed some kubuntu cd's to my sister and a friend | 02:39 |
| dholbach | hehe, nice :-) | 02:39 |
| RockMan | bluez 3.4 here, but yep.. it should be almost the same | 02:39 |
| dholbach | on Riddell's recommendation, I applied http://www.kmobiletools.org/node/228 to be able to call the old passkey | 02:39 |
| dholbach | however it still does not seem too happy - can you think of an easy KDE-ish way to trigger a "pairing attempt"? | 02:40 |
| Riddell | danimo: I asked mdz who said he wasn't happy with changing a core library this late | 02:40 |
| RockMan | dholbach: you can try the kdebluetooth-dbus integrations | 02:41 |
| RockMan | dholbach: it's in kde svn repostry, in /branches/work/kdebluetooth-dbus-integration | 02:41 |
| Riddell | danimo: I can re-emphasise how happy it will make kde developers and that it's possible to test with 100% of qt 4 apps in main to ensure nothing breaks | 02:41 |
| dholbach | *whine* | 02:41 |
| danimo | Riddell: yes, but it will make developing KDE 4 on edgy a pain | 02:41 |
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| danimo | Riddell: and that Qt 4.1.x is full of bugs, and Qt 4.2 is an improvement at least for the existing components | 02:42 |
| Tonio_ | re | 02:42 |
| Tonio_ | someone can test kpdfpart for me ? | 02:42 |
| Tonio_ | I have an error and I would like to check if that's me or kde | 02:42 |
| danimo | heya tonio! | 02:42 |
| Tonio_ | hey danimo | 02:42 |
| dholbach | RockMan: isn't there a small fix to it or something I can use to try it? I'm not familiar with the codebase at all, but I doubt that we can import a bunch of svn changes two weeks before release :-( | 02:42 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: when you open a pdf file in konq, do you get something like this ? /usr/lib/kde3/libkpdfpart.so: undefined symbol: _ZN11PSOutputDevC1EPcP4XRefP7Catalogii9PSOutModeiiiiiiii | 02:43 |
| RockMan | dholbach: my patch _is_ a small fix.. | 02:43 |
| dholbach | RockMan: ah that was your fix? nice | 02:43 |
| dholbach | RockMan: how can I try and see if it works? | 02:43 |
| dholbach | RockMan: I'm sorry - I'm not a KDE expert. :-) | 02:44 |
| RockMan | dholbach: as it's written there, launch passkey-agent --default $pin-helper | 02:44 |
| gnomefreak | Tonio_: if you have a pdf i can try it | 02:44 |
| RockMan | where $pin-helper can be kbluepin | 02:44 |
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| Tonio_ | gnomefreak: print any file to pdf file and then you can test :) | 02:44 |
| RockMan | (better to specify path, since kbluepin often isn't in user $PATH) | 02:44 |
| Tonio_ | gnomefreak: but note kpdf works, only th kpart fails | 02:44 |
| dholbach | RockMan: Ok - I understand! | 02:44 |
| dholbach | RockMan: thanks a lot | 02:45 |
| RockMan | you're welcome | 02:45 |
| danimo | Tonio_: aye | 02:45 |
| danimo | Tonio_: already told Riddell | 02:45 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: so you confirm ? | 02:45 |
| dholbach | Riddell: now we need to find out how to make that a default for kde users / and bluez-passkey-gnome for gnome users | 02:45 |
| danimo | Tonio_: kdegraphics 3.5.5 didn't build yet | 02:45 |
| danimo | Tonio_: but it should not happen nevertheless | 02:45 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: yes but maybe this is due to konqueror 355 and kpdf 3.5.4 | 02:46 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: I didn't have that error previously..... | 02:46 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: let's check what happens with kdegraphics :) | 02:46 |
| RockMan | dholbach: a solution can be a "kdebluetooth" shell script, which launches kbluetoothd (the bluetooth daemon) and the passkey agent | 02:47 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: kdelibs4-dev (>= 4:3.5.3-1ubuntu2) | 02:48 |
| RockMan | or naming the script kbluetoothd too, so when one calls kbluetoothd the passkey-agent starts too | 02:48 |
| Tonio_ | maybe that can explain... | 02:48 |
| dholbach | RockMan: which kde user operation should pop up the passkey agent? | 02:48 |
| Tonio_ | because 3.5.4 is still in the repos | 02:48 |
| danimo | yes | 02:48 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: I'm changing the builddeps and check | 02:48 |
| RockMan | dholbach: current user | 02:48 |
| RockMan | dholbach: a weak point of this patch is the multi-user management | 02:49 |
| dholbach | RockMan: hum, what can I do to get such a kde pairing dialog? | 02:49 |
| RockMan | the "--default" option means "register for ALL phones".. and of course you can't have two defaults, the second one will fail | 02:49 |
| RockMan | dholbach: what do you mean? | 02:49 |
| dholbach | RockMan: i see | 02:49 |
| dholbach | RockMan: as a KDE user - where do I click what to see if the passkey agent works or how do I get prompted with a kde pairing dialog box? | 02:50 |
| dholbach | RockMan: I want to confirm it works | 02:50 |
| RockMan | you could specify device address for the second registration.. anyway, these options are "standard" for passkey-agent, not mine | 02:50 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: I'm testing the build to see what's wrong | 02:50 |
| RockMan | dholbach: dunnow.. i'm doing this with my phone | 02:50 |
| dholbach | RockMan: yes, to pair the phone with the kde box :) | 02:51 |
| RockMan | dholbach: trying browsing obex, for instance, or using kmobiletools | 02:51 |
| dholbach | ok | 02:51 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: | 02:54 |
| Tonio_ | Considering libpoppler-qt-dev (>= 0.5.4-0ubuntu3) | 02:54 |
| Tonio_ | Tried versions: 0.5.4-0ubuntu2 | 02:54 |
| Tonio_ | -> Does not satisfy version, not trying | 02:54 |
| Tonio_ | I'll fix this and upload | 02:54 |
| dholbach | Tonio_: it was just uploaded | 02:54 |
| Tonio_ | dholbach: ah, great, so we just have to wait and reup kdegraphics then | 02:55 |
| dholbach | or failed to build and then riddell uploaded a new version | 02:55 |
| dholbach | ask to give back | 02:55 |
| dholbach | (once the version is published) | 02:55 |
| Tonio_ | dholbach: okay | 02:55 |
| dholbach | RockMan: I can't get it to pair although I set the passkey-agent default (and applied the bluez-utils patch) | 02:56 |
| dholbach | Oct 12 14:54:36 localhost hcid[7515] : pin_code_request (sba=00:0B:0D:32:09:0A, dba=00:0E:07:8D:1F:1C) | 02:56 |
| dholbach | Oct 12 14:54:36 localhost hcid[7515] : Calling PasskeyAgent.Request: name=:1.35, path=/org/bluez/passkey_agent_7548 | 02:56 |
| dholbach | Oct 12 14:54:36 localhost hcid[7515] : Invalid passkey length from handler | 02:56 |
| Tonio_ | dholbach: yeah I can see it is currently building | 02:56 |
| Tonio_ | dholbach: thanks for the info | 02:57 |
| dholbach | Tonio_: ok cool | 02:57 |
| RockMan | dholbach: mmmh | 02:57 |
| dholbach | I'll retry and clean out /var/lib/bluetooth | 02:57 |
| RockMan | dholbach: are you sure that's patched? | 02:57 |
| RockMan | "Invalid passkey length" make me think that it's not, and it's taking "$PATH_TO_KBLUEPIN" as passkey | 02:58 |
| RockMan | and if kbluepin doesn't show, probably i'm right | 02:58 |
| RockMan | dholbach: ** important ** passkey-agent is NOT installed with "make install", so you have to overwrite it manually, if you had already it in your path | 02:59 |
| dholbach | passkey-agent is installed | 02:59 |
| dholbach | we make sure it is | 02:59 |
| dholbach | and yeah, i installed the patched fversion of bluez-utils | 03:00 |
| dholbach | let's try again | 03:00 |
| Tonio_ | dholbach: when a package is "Dependency wait" on launchpad, is a reup necessary when the dep is there or is that done automatically ? | 03:01 |
| Tonio_ | just for my curiosity :) | 03:01 |
| dholbach | Tonio_: no, sometimes you need to prod a build admin to get it done, but depwait should resolve it self | 03:01 |
| Tonio_ | dholbach: thanks for the info | 03:01 |
| dholbach | RockMan: | 03:01 |
| dholbach | Oct 12 15:00:28 localhost hcid[7752] : name_listener_add(:1.38) | 03:01 |
| dholbach | Oct 12 15:00:28 localhost hcid[7752] : Default passkey agent (:1.38, /org/bluez/passkey_agent_7763) registered | 03:01 |
| dholbach | but trying to access "obex file transfer" i get those messages | 03:02 |
| dholbach | my phone prompts me to enter the pin, and whichever pin i enter (the computer's or the phone's), it doesn't like me | 03:03 |
| dholbach | if you have some more info for me or anything else to debug it properly, let me know | 03:04 |
| dholbach | thanks for all your efforts | 03:04 |
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| RockMan | dholbach: i'll upgrade to bluez 3.7 and retest, maybe it needs to be modified | 03:08 |
| danimo | Tonio_: running "kdeinit" fixed it for me | 03:08 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: testing | 03:10 |
| dholbach | RockMan: thanks a lot! you ROCK! | 03:10 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: doesn't fix my issue, but I'll wait for kdegraphics.... I'm sure there is the problem | 03:11 |
| danimo | Tonio_: (the usual fix: it "injects" an updated version of kdelibs into kdeinit, which launches the part | 03:11 |
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| danimo | Tonio_: and you need to close the running (and probably all running) konqueror instances after running kdeinit | 03:16 |
| danimo | Tonio_: then it works | 03:16 |
| danimo | Tonio_: sometimes konq caches the last running instance. so make sure there is no konq process left running | 03:16 |
| danimo | Tonio_: should fix your case, too | 03:17 |
| danimo | Tonio_: if it doesn't, that would not only be a kubuntu packaging bug, but show a violation of KDE's BIC policies | 03:17 |
| danimo | s/BIC/BC | 03:17 |
| Tonio_ | danimo: okay | 03:17 |
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| gnomefreak | Tonio_: no need to file a bug on the libkpdfpart.so: undefined symbol since kde is not fully upgraded yet? | 03:28 |
| Tonio_ | gnomefreak: yeah better waiting for kdegraphics | 03:29 |
| gnomefreak | ok ill let them know ty | 03:29 |
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| Tm_T | Sucky, dapper doesn't offer other cursor theme alternatives than human | 03:35 |
| Tm_T | Ha, had to reinstall xcursor-themes package, weird. | 03:38 |
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| Riddell | freeflying: around? | 04:06 |
| freeflying | Riddell: hi | 04:07 |
| Riddell | freeflying: are you still having problems with CJK in skype or opera? | 04:08 |
| Riddell | the scim-qtimm patch issue | 04:08 |
| freeflying | Riddell: ya | 04:09 |
| Riddell | freeflying: do you know if there's a bug filed for it? | 04:09 |
| freeflying | Riddell: has one | 04:10 |
| Riddell | freeflying: number? | 04:10 |
| freeflying | Riddell: I'd find it now, but the battery of my mobile and nb will out now :) | 04:11 |
| dholbach | Riddell: I subscribed kubuntu-team to bug 56651 | 04:12 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 56651 in bluez-utils "Missing passkey-agent binary" [Unknown,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/56651 | 04:12 |
| freeflying | Riddell: how about switch back the fonts of kubuntu to sans? | 04:12 |
| mhb | freeflying: the console? | 04:13 |
| Riddell | freeflying: I'm sure it was Deja in dapper | 04:13 |
| freeflying | mhb: all | 04:14 |
| mhb | freeflying: well, now the czech characters work, so I'm more happy with that | 04:14 |
| mhb | Riddell: have you looked at the systemsettings .mo bug yet? | 04:14 |
| freeflying | Riddell: i see, but in dapper, we'd configure it if guys wanna read chinese in non-chinese locale | 04:14 |
| Riddell | mhb: number? | 04:15 |
| Riddell | freeflying: configure by hand? | 04:15 |
| freeflying | Riddell: because dejavu wasn't configure in fontconfig | 04:15 |
| mhb | bug 63325 | 04:16 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 63325 in kde-systemsettings "systemsettings won't load the desktop_kde-systemsettings.mo translation in Edgy" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/63325 | 04:16 |
| mhb | you told me you're going to look at it later | 04:16 |
| mhb | a week ago or so :o) | 04:16 |
| Riddell | mhb: yeah, I know. I've targetted it for the final release now so it'll definately be on my list | 04:17 |
| mhb | thanks | 04:17 |
| Riddell | freeflying: I need bug number for both the fonts issue and the scim-qtimm issue so I can target them for release | 04:18 |
| freeflying | Riddell: ok, I will file a bug for the font issue :) | 04:18 |
| freeflying | and the scim-qtimm's issue was filed on scim-chewing | 04:18 |
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| Riddell | freeflying: no relevant bugs in https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/scim-chewing/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=Unconfirmed&field.status%3Alist=Needs+Info&field.status%3Alist=Rejected&field.status%3Alist=Confirmed&field.status%3Alist=In+Progress&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Committed&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Released&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.owner=&field.status_upstream=&field.status_upstream-empty-mark | 04:21 |
| Riddell | erk | 04:21 |
| jdong | morning | 04:21 |
| Riddell | or even https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/scim-chewing/+bugs | 04:21 |
| Riddell | yo jdong | 04:23 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: meet tinyurl.com :P | 04:23 |
| Hobbsee | hey jdong | 04:24 |
| jdong | that's one big URL :D | 04:25 |
| jdong | a few more characters and snort probably would've zapped this connection ;-) | 04:26 |
| Riddell | dholbach: so you've given up on bug 56651 ? | 04:31 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 56651 in bluez-utils "Impossible to do pairing in Kubuntu" [Unknown,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/56651 | 04:31 |
| dholbach | Riddell: not at all | 04:31 |
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| dholbach | Riddell: I just want to invite all the kubuntu guys to get cracking/testing on it with me | 04:31 |
| dholbach | I'm far from being a bluetooth expert | 04:31 |
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| Riddell | and I have never used bluetooth | 04:33 |
| Riddell | seaLne: don't you have bluetooth? | 04:34 |
| seaLne | yeah, but nothing to talk to it atm | 04:34 |
| jdong | yeah, same situation here | 04:34 |
| jdong | still waiting for bluetooth devices to get below the $75USD mark | 04:35 |
| === Hobbsee has nothing bluetooth related. | ||
| freeflying | Riddell: malone bug #57081 | 04:35 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 57081 in scim-chewing "scim-chewing: user database file can be corrupted, which render the whole package useless" [High,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57081 | 04:35 |
| dholbach | RockMan: if you have results with 3.7 - let me know, I'm happy to try and test and look :-) | 04:35 |
| nuku | dholbach: i'm willing to help testing/debugging.. | 04:35 |
| dholbach | nuku: super - did you read my last comment on the bug? | 04:36 |
| RockMan | dholbach: just recompiling now.. i noticed i didn't have my own patch locally (funny, uh?) and kmobiletools homepage (which was hosting it) was offline | 04:36 |
| freeflying | Riddell: in this bug, something is the bug of scim-qtimm actrually | 04:36 |
| RockMan | (and still is, but at least i gained ssh access for downloading it) | 04:36 |
| nuku | dholbach: yes but .. as RockMan just said the kmobiletools page is down :/ | 04:36 |
| dholbach | hang on, i have the patch somewhere | 04:36 |
| RockMan | wait | 04:37 |
| dholbach | http://people.ubuntu.com/~dholbach/bluez-pin-exec-patch.diff | 04:37 |
| RockMan | i have it here, a bit modified | 04:37 |
| dholbach | ah | 04:37 |
| dholbach | modifications !!! :-) | 04:37 |
| RockMan | oh nothing important | 04:37 |
| === dholbach was just getting excited | ||
| RockMan | but i added my own version string, so you may be SURE that it's the patched one | 04:38 |
| seaLne | there hasn't been any sign of kwwii today has there? | 04:39 |
| RockMan | anyway, i noticed that i made the patch with bluez 3.2.. the problem is that there's absolutly nothing changed in passkey-agent.c from 3.2 to 3.7.. so i don't know what exactly isn't working | 04:39 |
| RockMan | dholbach, nuku: http://phpfi.com/162881 | 04:39 |
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| RockMan | so, first run "passkey-agent" without parameters to see if it's patched | 04:40 |
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| RockMan | i should replace also "agent" with "program" in the help, actually, but it doesn't really matter now.. :P | 04:41 |
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| RockMan | s/address/passkey/ | 04:41 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ark is missing 7zr integration (still using 7za) | 04:42 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: there is a patch for this (2 lines), I'll probably add it, that'll avoid a bug report :) | 04:42 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: ok, got a URL to check the patch? | 04:43 |
| dholbach | RockMan: what is the change between the two patches? | 04:43 |
| dholbach | RockMan: just the version string? | 04:43 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/25 | 04:44 |
| RockMan | dholbach: es | 04:44 |
| RockMan | *yes | 04:44 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: last part only is necessary, the rest of the patch is for corect mimetypes, and correcting the ark_part.desktop (currently broken) | 04:44 |
| dholbach | RockMan: so can you see the problem with 3.7? | 04:45 |
| RockMan | dholbach: still compiling | 04:45 |
| dholbach | ahhh alrighty | 04:45 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm currently building to test it | 04:45 |
| RockMan | dholbach: not easy.. i'm compiling kdelibs, gtk+ and bluez-utils at the same time... :P | 04:45 |
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| kwwii | Riddell: ping? | 04:47 |
| Tonio_ | hey kwwii :) | 04:47 |
| kwwii | howdy Tonio_ | 04:47 |
| mhb | hi Ken | 04:48 |
| kwwii | hi mh | 04:48 |
| mhb | hi Tonio_, too :o) | 04:48 |
| kwwii | erm | 04:48 |
| kwwii | b | 04:48 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: love the new power-manager color, but doesn't that need a few colors ? | 04:48 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: hehe, yeah, that is what others said too, but the third version I made looked like crap | 04:48 |
| kwwii | and /me is sick | 04:48 |
| Tonio_ | ah... :( | 04:49 |
| mhb | Tonio_: do you have a screenshot? | 04:49 |
| kwwii | I have spent the last 14 hours in front of a toillete | 04:49 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: not here sorry | 04:49 |
| nuku | dholbach: RockMan: well at least it works when calling the passkey-agent --default /usr/lib/kdebluetooth/kbluepin manually | 04:50 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: gastro ? | 04:50 |
| dholbach | nuku: I did that | 04:50 |
| dholbach | nuku: what do you do after that? | 04:50 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: yeah, and it sucks | 04:50 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: or alcohol ? :) | 04:50 |
| nuku | dholbach: connect to the device via kio obex stuff.. | 04:50 |
| Tonio_ | ah...... yeah I had that last year...... pitty | 04:50 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: funny enough, not this time :p | 04:50 |
| Tonio_ | hehe | 04:50 |
| nuku | dholbach: then my mobile asks me for pin and after that the kbluepin pops up .. | 04:50 |
| RockMan | nuku: that what it should do | 04:51 |
| dholbach | kbluepin doesn't pop up for me | 04:51 |
| nuku | Ro | 04:51 |
| nuku | RockMan: yep | 04:51 |
| Tonio_ | nuku: that's normal, then on the celphone, put 1234 | 04:51 |
| RockMan | dholbach: and the version string? | 04:51 |
| dholbach | nuku: is that edgy with bluez-utils 3.7 patched as RockMan suggested? | 04:51 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, pong | 04:51 |
| Tonio_ | hey imbrandon | 04:51 |
| imbrandon | morning Tonio_ | 04:51 |
| nuku | dholbach: right with the passkey-agent helper patch | 04:51 |
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| nuku | Tonio_: well i did not use 1234 to make sure its not something default ;) | 04:52 |
| dholbach | nuku, RockMan: good work - I'll test it later again, thanks for testing | 04:52 |
| dholbach | nuku, RockMan: i have a meeting coming on in 7 minutes | 04:52 |
| Tonio_ | nuku: use the defined pin then :) | 04:52 |
| RockMan | hehe | 04:52 |
| RockMan | np.. see you later then | 04:52 |
| dholbach | nuku, RockMan: I'm very happy if this is the fix and all is good :-) | 04:52 |
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| dholbach | nuku, RockMan: Thanks again | 04:53 |
| nuku | dholbach: but the passkey-agent is not installed with the deb.. | 04:53 |
| dholbach | nuku: it is | 04:53 |
| dholbach | um | 04:53 |
| dholbach | nuku: hum, how did I get that into /usr/bin/ then | 04:54 |
| dholbach | nuku: ok, I'll figure that out ... somehow :) | 04:54 |
| dholbach | nuku: gracias | 04:54 |
| nuku | no problem | 04:54 |
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| nuku | dholbach: the install line for the passkey-agent is commented out in the rules | 04:55 |
| RockMan | (i told him.. :P) | 04:55 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: heh, 's/elif/else if' in the patch, of course.... | 04:56 |
| dholbach | nuku: that's easy enough to fix - i just thought we had it fixed since I had it in /usr/bin already :-) | 04:56 |
| RockMan | dholbach: it can explain why it didn't work for you.. you didn't install the patched version :P | 04:56 |
| dholbach | oh lord | 04:56 |
| nuku | dholbach: maybe you followed the bug report where someone told to copy it in /usr/bin :) | 04:56 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: yo, I believe you hve some konversation stuff for Sho_? | 04:57 |
| dholbach | lalalalala | 04:57 |
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| RockMan | just retested, it works here | 04:57 |
| Riddell | kwwii: pong | 04:57 |
| kwwii | Riddell: I had some problems with checking out or branching the bzr for k-d-s | 04:57 |
| Riddell | kwwii: what did you do? | 04:58 |
| kwwii | the exact commands that you sent in your mail (and I asked here, nobody knew what it was) | 04:58 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: patch look fine with that elif change | 04:58 |
| Riddell | kwwii: and what was the error? | 04:58 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yeah, if that works locally, I'll upload | 04:58 |
| kwwii | bzr: ERROR: Connection error: Unable to connect to SSH host bazaar.launchpad.net:None: | 04:59 |
| Riddell | kwwii: do you have python2.4-paramiko installed? | 04:59 |
| kwwii | Riddell: yepp | 05:00 |
| Riddell | and you're doing bzr checkout sftp://<username>@bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kubuntu-default-settings/ubuntu ? | 05:01 |
| kwwii | Riddell: ahhhh, the username part was missing, one second | 05:02 |
| Riddell | use your launchpad account name | 05:02 |
| kwwii | Riddell: can we work on this later (still no luck) | 05:05 |
| Riddell | kwwii: sure | 05:06 |
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| nuku | RockMan: you patch does not check for length of "passkey" and "address" when sprintf into a 256 byte buffer :P | 05:10 |
| RockMan | right | 05:10 |
| jdong | isn't that what -fstack-protector is for? | 05:11 |
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| RockMan | as i said, it was more a "hack", i wasn't expecting to be included by default in a distro | 05:11 |
| mhb | hmm ... when a deadline is today, does that mean I cannot modify the stuff tomorrow or today already? | 05:12 |
| === abattoir can test bluetooth stuff... | ||
| abattoir | or am i too late? | 05:16 |
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| nuku | RockMan: one more question where do i need to set the passkey helper like kbluepin to be used as default? i still need to call the passkey-agent from a terminal to make bluetooth work.. | 05:22 |
| RockMan | abattoir: no, please, test too :) | 05:23 |
| RockMan | nuku: you can autostart it, for instance from ~/.kde/Autostart | 05:23 |
| RockMan | dunnow if it exists a global one | 05:23 |
| RockMan | abattoir, nuku: i'm also packaging kdebluetooth-1.0_beta2... could you test it? | 05:24 |
| abattoir | RockMan: sure | 05:24 |
| abattoir | i386? | 05:24 |
| nuku | sure.. | 05:24 |
| nuku | RockMan: hmm well using autostart is no real solution i guess.. | 05:24 |
| RockMan | abattoir: sources... | 05:25 |
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| abattoir | RockMan: ok :) | 05:25 |
| RockMan | nuku: i can't imagine what the solution could be.. i'm a coder, not a maintainer.. | 05:25 |
| dholbach | does kde use /usr/share/autostart? | 05:26 |
| RockMan | dunnow | 05:26 |
| nuku | RockMan: hehe :) .. hmm it seems that the gnome passkey thingie also creates an autostart entry.. | 05:26 |
| dholbach | if it would, we could add an autostart file to kdebluetoot | 05:26 |
| dholbach | h | 05:26 |
| dholbach | *shrug* | 05:26 |
| dholbach | gnome does and bluez-passkey-gnome does this | 05:27 |
| abattoir | dholbach: i think one already exists | 05:27 |
| RockMan | kdebluetooth is _already_ autostarted by default | 05:27 |
| === abattoir sees a kbluetoothd.autostart.desktop there | ||
| RockMan | but kdebluetooth != passkey-agent | 05:27 |
| dholbach | RockMan: we could add another .desktop file | 05:27 |
| dholbach | that's what I meant :-) | 05:27 |
| RockMan | yep | 05:27 |
| dholbach | and maybe we can tweak it so that each of them are only started in the kde or in the gnome session | 05:28 |
| dholbach | that would rock | 05:28 |
| RockMan | kdebluetooth installs it in $datadir.. i guess it's /usr/share | 05:29 |
| dholbach | yeah | 05:29 |
| RockMan | but _check_ first.. i don't have ubuntu, and here the prefix is /usr/kde/3.5 | 05:29 |
| dholbach | alright | 05:29 |
| RockMan | where goes kbluetoothd.autostart.desktop in kubuntu? | 05:29 |
| dholbach | it's just an idea and I'll ask Riddell before doing anything | 05:29 |
| abattoir | /usr/share/autostart | 05:29 |
| RockMan | abattoir: so i guess that the directory is shared :) | 05:30 |
| Huahua | hi, Riddell: malone bug #65697 | 05:30 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 65697 in kubuntu-default-settings "kubuntu dapper can't display Chinese in non-Chinese locale" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/65697 | 05:30 |
| nuku | hm there is an OnlyShowIn=KDE in the desktop :) | 05:30 |
| nuku | i think that will do the trick ;) | 05:30 |
| abattoir | RockMan: umm.. yes.. :P | 05:30 |
| nuku | RockMan: i guess you are still working on the beta2 release of kdebluetooth?! | 05:49 |
| RockMan | yep | 05:49 |
| RockMan | or, better... it's fetching i18n files for packaging | 05:49 |
| RockMan | (which is _REALLY_ slow.....) | 05:50 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm patching kdelibs to remove p7zip protocol from x-7z mimetype... | 05:54 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: why? | 05:54 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: doesn't work as we don't have the 7zip ioslave installed by default, so better using ark in the first place | 05:54 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: the result is konq intagration doesn't use ark_part, but p7zip protocol, when ioslave isn't installed.... -> error message | 05:55 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm playing with compressed files since a few hours, and lots of things can be done arround that.... lots of little issues like this one | 05:55 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: in the desktop file | 05:56 |
| Tonio_ | [Property::X-KDE-LocalProtocol] | 05:56 |
| Tonio_ | Type=QString | 05:56 |
| Tonio_ | Value=p7zip | 05:56 |
| Tonio_ | now enter p7zip:/ in konq -> can't work, since the protocol is undefined | 05:56 |
| Riddell | makes me wonder why that's in kdelibs when p7zip ioslave isn't | 05:57 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I don't know, but now I understanf why so many people are complaning 7z files are unmanageable in kubuntu | 05:57 |
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| Tonio_ | kdelibs has crappy entries and ark needs patching....... | 05:58 |
| Riddell | can't say I've ever come across a 7z file :) | 05:58 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm doing the necessary for correct integration, and you'll revu the patches before upload, is that okay for you ? | 05:58 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I don't too, but lots of people use them :) | 05:58 |
| kwwii | Riddell: I guess that the problem is that my ssh-key is missing on launchpad.net? | 05:59 |
| Riddell | kwwii: that could well be it | 05:59 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: even ark servicemenu is incomplete and doesn't manage 7z files, when ark standalone can....... | 06:01 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: looks like kde devs don't use 7zip a lot :) | 06:01 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I won't patch kdelibs, but disable the protocol in kds, like I do for tar and zip | 06:02 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: better that merging a new patch everytime | 06:02 |
| Riddell | yeah | 06:03 |
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| abattoir | Riddell: are Qt 4.2 packages for i386 available at kubuntu.org? | 06:32 |
| apokryphos | abattoir: aren't they in edgy with "kdecopy"? | 06:35 |
| apokryphos | http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=kdecopy&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all | 06:35 |
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| abattoir | apokryphos: the -kdecopy designer doesn't work :(, i'll look at it again, thanks | 06:36 |
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| Riddell | abattoir: no, but I'll upload 4.2 to edgy this evening | 06:42 |
| abattoir | Riddell: great, thanks :) | 06:42 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, ... | 06:49 |
| imbrandon | [11:44] <Sho_> imbrandon: http://www.eikehein.com/diffstat.txt is my commentary to the diffstat if that's a topic of discussion | 06:49 |
| imbrandon | [11:45] <imbrandon> k | 06:49 |
| imbrandon | [11:46] <Sho_> imbrandon: We've done build tests on x86, PPC, amd64, some on Edgy, gcc 3.4 - 4.2, KDE 3.4 & 3.5 | 06:49 |
| imbrandon | if that will help with mdz ^ | 06:49 |
| imbrandon | and i added a buildlog to the bug | 06:49 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, and it would close all bugs in BTW and no new bugs have been filed since release in KDE BTS for Konversation | 06:51 |
| imbrandon | s/BTW/malone | 06:51 |
| Riddell | is kopete in backports yet? | 06:58 |
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| imbrandon | Riddell, seems source only | 07:01 |
| imbrandon | kopete | 4:3.5.4+kopete0.12.2-0ubuntu1~dapper1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/main Sources | 07:01 |
| imbrandon | no binarys | 07:01 |
| Riddell | humph | 07:01 |
| Riddell | so it needs to be built for the kde 3.5.5 repository | 07:01 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, yea looks like it | 07:02 |
| RockMan | abattoir, nuku, dholbach: ping | 07:07 |
| kwwii | Riddell: bzr is working now, I will update a couple of pics sometime either later tonight or early tomorrow morning...guess we need to add a folder for the 16color usplash as well now | 07:07 |
| abattoir | RockMan: the package is up? | 07:07 |
| RockMan | nope | 07:07 |
| Riddell | kwwii: ok, let me know when you commit that | 07:07 |
| RockMan | still waiting for i18n to download | 07:07 |
| RockMan | (how slow =_=) | 07:07 |
| dholbach | RockMan: pong | 07:07 |
| Riddell | kwwii: usplash has a funky build system, just put it in the existing directory and I'll work out what needs done | 07:08 |
| Riddell | kwwii: I'd say for the 16 colour one just use the dapper usplash | 07:08 |
| RockMan | but i updated the patch for passkey-agent, dynamically allocating memory for passkey string size, instead of using char[256] | 07:08 |
| kwwii | Riddell: ok, will do | 07:08 |
| RockMan | http://www.kmobiletools.org/files/bluez-pin-exec-patch-r2.diff.bz2 | 07:08 |
| kwwii | Riddell: I will try to make the new version somehow with 16 colors, or something like it...if nothing else we can use the dapper usplash instead | 07:09 |
| RockMan | dholbach: IF you were already using the patched version, this should also fix your problem | 07:10 |
| dholbach | RockMan: I'm still in the meeting | 07:10 |
| dholbach | RockMan: i'll make sure to check it afterwards | 07:10 |
| Riddell | kwwii: by the way the akademy 2007 team wants to do a contest for the logo, just to warn you | 07:10 |
| dholbach | RockMan: in a clean environment | 07:11 |
| RockMan | dholbach: np, i just wanted to inform you.. you'll find the updated version in kmobiletools homepage, anyway | 07:11 |
| dholbach | thanks a lot! | 07:11 |
| dholbach | good work on that! | 07:11 |
| nuku | RockMan: hm i was wondering .. by the patch the original behavior of the application gets broken... but as it isn't installed in the first place we should not care?! ;) | 07:11 |
| RockMan | nuku: exactly :) | 07:12 |
| RockMan | and anyway, i checked code, to see how it was working.. it doesn't break anything | 07:12 |
| RockMan | unless i was missing something important | 07:12 |
| nuku | RockMan: best solution would probably be to incorporate the dbus stuff into kbluebin sometime.. | 07:13 |
| RockMan | nuku: it's already done, but it needs a lot of testing | 07:13 |
| nuku | RockMan: ah i see | 07:13 |
| RockMan | nuku: it's in kde svn repostry, in /branches/work/kdebluetooth-dbus-integration | 07:13 |
| kwwii | Riddell: I heard that....and warned them against it | 07:14 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, i got a chance to test my kubuntu-artwork-uspash.postinst changes to k-d-s 6.10-55 they work perfect | 07:14 |
| kwwii | "them" being seaLne | 07:14 |
| imbrandon | ( with an upgrade from dapper ) | 07:14 |
| kwwii | and now you :p | 07:14 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: is it in bzr? | 07:14 |
| RockMan | Riddell: it's already decided where it will be? | 07:14 |
| Riddell | RockMan: yes | 07:14 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, afaik Tonio_ put it there, let me check | 07:14 |
| RockMan | Riddell: (and where?) | 07:14 |
| Riddell | RockMan: glasgow, but that's top secret so don't tell anyone | 07:15 |
| RockMan | np | 07:15 |
| RockMan | very near the last akademy, this time | 07:17 |
| nuku | RockMan: don't want to be picky but the patch misses a check if malloc failed :P | 07:17 |
| RockMan | oh.. right | 07:18 |
| RockMan | sorry, i don't code pure c from a long time | 07:18 |
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| nuku | hehe yes c can be evil :) | 07:18 |
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| RockMan | nuku: ok, should be fixed now | 07:26 |
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| RockMan | nuku, abattoir: http://zerogoki.homelinux.org/index.php | 07:40 |
| RockMan | err.. | 07:40 |
| RockMan | no | 07:40 |
| RockMan | nuku, abattoir: http://zerogoki.homelinux.org/kdebluetooth-1.0_beta2.tar.bz2 | 07:40 |
| abattoir | RockMan: thanks, downloadingnow | 07:45 |
| nuku | RockMan: anything particular to keep a look at? | 07:45 |
| _Sime | sebas: ping | 07:46 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon have stuff to commit to kds ? because I'm just preparing a new version | 08:07 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_, yea, doing a commit to bzr right now | 08:07 |
| imbrandon | just a sec | 08:07 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon okay I'll sync my work then | 08:08 |
| imbrandon | err actualy i just checked, its all there already | 08:08 |
| imbrandon | go for it ;) | 08:08 |
| imbrandon | all my changes were in -55 | 08:08 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon Riddell already commited the postinst stuff fyi | 08:09 |
| imbrandon | yea i seen , thanks, thats what i was checking | 08:09 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon I'm patching ark to manage 7z files correctly | 08:09 |
| imbrandon | but bzr was being SLOW | 08:09 |
| imbrandon | yup yup, all good bro | 08:09 |
| Tonio_ | it's 7z support is a horible mess, while rar is managed correctly.....; I don't understand the reason of this, but that's a shame for an open compression format | 08:09 |
| Tonio_ | and yes, bzr is very slow.... | 08:10 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, any more word on konversation from mdz | 08:13 |
| mdz | imbrandon: bug 64488 | 08:14 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 64488 in konversation "UVFe ( main ) for konversation 1.0 to 1.0.1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64488 | 08:14 |
| imbrandon | oh heya mdz wasent sure if you were in here /me looks | 08:15 |
| RockMan | nuku: not exactly.. it's almost bug fixes, check if it compiles and if it works correctly | 08:15 |
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| Tonio_ | re | 08:16 |
| Tonio_ | 7z extraction work...... now compression.... | 08:16 |
| nuku | RockMan: i see.. some of the patches from the ubuntu source package are already applied as it seem .. now building the deb :) | 08:22 |
| RockMan | this release also has public headers, so maybe you need also to build a -dev package | 08:22 |
| RockMan | (needed for kmobiletools) | 08:22 |
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| jdong | is it just me, or is konq 3.5.5 noticeably faster? | 08:25 |
| jdong | and more responsive when switching tabs | 08:25 |
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| Riddell | jdong: speed improvements to KHTML are listed in the changelog | 08:26 |
| jdong | yeah; I guess they actually meant it :D | 08:27 |
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| jdong | well... it's just that "speed improvements" is such a widely {mis}used term | 08:29 |
| jdong | so often people claim it, and I don't feel a darn thing | 08:29 |
| jdong | and other times, people say "slight optimization" and all of a sudden my speed doubles | 08:29 |
| jdong | but damn, this is quite amazing | 08:30 |
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| Tm_T | :) | 08:30 |
| _Sime | Riddell: new version of guidance is up on my website (http://www.simonzone.com/software/guidance/ ) | 08:32 |
| jdong | holy crap even scrolling is faster | 08:33 |
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| Tm_T | =) | 08:38 |
| jdong | whoa! even my coffee is brewing faster | 08:39 |
| jdong | wait... that's not KDE... | 08:39 |
| Tm_T | jdong: It is, trust me. | 08:43 |
| jdong | Tm_T: must be my super-optimized CFLAGS then ;-) | 08:43 |
| jdong | I was told on #gentoo to use -f'in-grind-my-coffee-already | 08:44 |
| Sho_ | jdong: Tab switching was indeed made faster, by reusing a QTimer instead of queueing up new ones | 08:44 |
| Tm_T | :) | 08:44 |
| Tm_T | KDE <3 | 08:45 |
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| Riddell | _Sime: cool | 08:47 |
| abattoir | RockMan: i'm unable to pair w/ my phone | 08:49 |
| RockMan | abattoir: with.. what? are you using the patched passkey-agent? | 08:50 |
| abattoir | RockMan: had to run 'sudo hciconfig hci0 piscan' for my pc to be discoverable too | 08:50 |
| abattoir | RockMan: yes, i applied the patch | 08:50 |
| nuku | RockMan: phew found the hidden one :) the openobex check does not generate a correct error message when the version is not >=1.1 .. | 08:50 |
| RockMan | abattoir: make sure it's applied, run "passkey-agent" without arguments, and look it in the version string | 08:50 |
| RockMan | nuku: looking, thanks | 08:51 |
| RockMan | that configure.in.in is a hell anyway :( | 08:51 |
| imbrandon | mdz, ping, ok all information requested is now attached to the bug along with some other upstream comments on the diffstat code for bug 64488 | 08:51 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 64488 in konversation "UVFe ( main ) for konversation 1.0 to 1.0.1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64488 | 08:51 |
| nuku | RockMan: thats very true | 08:51 |
| abattoir | RockMan: hmm, it says 3.6 :( , i'll re-apply and compile | 08:51 |
| abattoir | (or is it supposed to say that?) | 08:52 |
| RockMan | abattoir: it should say "3.6", but it should also say "with patch" etc etc | 08:52 |
| mdz | imbrandon: not exactly, but it will do | 08:52 |
| mdz | imbrandon: for future reference, a diff from the current version to the proposed version is appropriate | 08:52 |
| RockMan | abattoir: passkey-agent is NOT installed with "make install", you have to copy it manually | 08:52 |
| abattoir | RockMan: ok, it doesn't, i think i made a mistake... | 08:52 |
| abattoir | RockMan: i modified Makefile in hcid/ | 08:52 |
| imbrandon | mdz, sure thing, i'll update the wiki to refelct that and also that that wiki applys to MAIN also not just universe | 08:53 |
| imbrandon | the wiki only says diffstat but i can do a diff also if you would like | 08:53 |
| mdz | imbrandon: don't worry about the wiki; I'm working on a replacement document | 08:53 |
| nuku | abattoir: just change the debian/rules .. the install line is commented out.. | 08:53 |
| imbrandon | mdz, sweet ok, cool yea it would be nice to have it clear ;) | 08:53 |
| RockMan | abattoir: make sure also you've the newest patch, in kmobiletools.org | 08:54 |
| abattoir | RockMan: i have r2 | 08:54 |
| RockMan | ok | 08:54 |
| imbrandon | would you like a diff of the source directorys too? i can do that quickly ( the changes are sumed up in the upstream diffstat.txt ) and also Sho_ is online ( the konversation release manager if we need to tackle something specific ) | 08:55 |
| imbrandon | mdz, ^ | 08:55 |
| mdz | imbrandon: I said that the current information will do | 08:56 |
| imbrandon | ok | 08:56 |
| mdz | I've updated the bug | 08:57 |
| imbrandon | thanks for the time, sorry this one was such a cluster^Wmess, will follow the new doc from here on | 08:57 |
| mdz | imbrandon: put simply, go ahead and update it, but only if you're willing to accept responsibility for this being the final version, even if something goes wrong | 08:58 |
| abattoir | nuku: ok, i'll try | 08:58 |
| imbrandon | mdz, ok | 08:58 |
| RockMan | nuku: just adding AC_MSG_WARN(openobex version 1.1 or higher is required to build kdebluetooth) should do the job.. you meant this, right? | 08:58 |
| nuku | yep something like this.. | 08:59 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, sound ok to you? if so i have it ready | 08:59 |
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| RockMan | (now the weird thing is that i've to re-run svn2dist =__=) | 08:59 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, also have any printing changes went in yet , i can test again today too | 09:01 |
| Sho_ | mdz, imbrandon: Replied to bug | 09:01 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: where's your konversation repository? | 09:01 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, imbrandon.com i havent uploaded 1.0.1 yet, well its uploading now actualy , just a sec i'll tell you when its done | 09:02 |
| Riddell | _Sime: the guidance tar doesn't have any translations in it | 09:07 |
| _Sime | mmm | 09:09 |
| _Sime | I guess all the translations are spread through the i18n svn tree. | 09:11 |
| Riddell | _Sime: yes, you have to use svn2dist to get them, but you also have to modify svn2dist since it works on the Makefile.am messages rule that we don't have | 09:11 |
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| _Sime | what have you guys been done with all of hte svnYYYYMMDD versions? | 09:14 |
| _Sime | ok | 09:14 |
| Riddell | using a hacked svn2dist | 09:14 |
| Riddell | _Sime: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/guidance.tar.bz2 | 09:17 |
| Riddell | grab the po directory from that and make a 0.7.0a if you wish | 09:18 |
| _Sime | ok | 09:21 |
| imbrandon | Riddell,uploaded: deb http://imbrandon.com/packages edgy konversation ( or http://www.imbrandon.com/packages/pool/edgy/konversation/konversation_1.0.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb ) | 09:21 |
| Riddell | _Sime: I get "error: can't copy 'kde/wineconfig/pics/16x16/wineconfig.svg': doesn't exist or not a regular file" | 09:21 |
| imbrandon | brb , phone | 09:22 |
| dholbach | Riddell, RockMan: Marcel Holtmann (bluez upstream) added a comment on bug 56651 too | 09:22 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 56651 in bluez-utils "Impossible to do pairing in Kubuntu" [Unknown,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/56651 | 09:22 |
| _Sime | Riddell: I'll fix that too... hang on. | 09:22 |
| RockMan | dholbach: that's nearly what i said.. that patch is just a hack | 09:25 |
| _Sime | I'll just test the tarball I made. | 09:25 |
| RockMan | kdebluetooth dbus integration should be ready.. it just needs to be tested (_A_LOT_) | 09:25 |
| dholbach | RockMan: so edgy+1 :-/ | 09:26 |
| RockMan | well.. dunnow.. if there's time enough to test, you could try including it in edgy | 09:26 |
| dholbach | how big is the patch? | 09:27 |
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| RockMan | it's not a patch, it's a new branch | 09:27 |
| dholbach | ok, how big would a diff be? | 09:27 |
| RockMan | [14:40] <RockMan> dholbach: it's in kde svn repostry, in /branches/work/kdebluetooth-dbus-integration | 09:27 |
| dholbach | yes | 09:27 |
| dholbach | but a diff between the current kdebluetooth and kdebluetooth-dbus would be possible, or is it a completely new module? | 09:28 |
| nuku | how big are the dependencies when just backporting the kbluepin? | 09:28 |
| nuku | its maybe a more trivial task in the end as the passkey-agent does not look that complicated.. | 09:30 |
| dholbach | I fear that if the diff is not easily eyeball-able we won't get it in. | 09:30 |
| RockMan | i'd repackage it, it's not an update that could be done with a patch | 09:31 |
| RockMan | or better.. yep, it could, but it's not that convenient, imho | 09:31 |
| dholbach | *nod* | 09:32 |
| dholbach | I understand. | 09:32 |
| RockMan | it should be used in suse+1, going out at the end of this month.. actually it was coded by a suse guy | 09:32 |
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| jr | groovy | 09:34 |
| nuku | i see .. he wrapped classes around the dcop handlers.. | 09:34 |
| nuku | dbus | 09:34 |
| nuku | more | 09:34 |
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| Riddell | imbrandon: going to upload konversation then? | 09:37 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, sure, i'm on it now | 09:37 |
| imbrandon | lemme just add the uvf bug number then i'll have it up | 09:37 |
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| _Sime | Riddell: I just switched the tarball on my site with the fixed version. I even tested it here(!) | 09:47 |
| _Sime | wonders will never cease. | 09:47 |
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| fdoving | imbrandon: did you make cross compiling work in pbuilder? | 09:48 |
| imbrandon | fdoving, yes ( but there are still some library issues for some apps , but simple apps cross-compile ) | 09:49 |
| imbrandon | and it takes some hacking in the pbuilder chroot, i'm still working on some clean ways to do somethings | 09:50 |
| fdoving | i'm hacking a chroot now. | 09:50 |
| imbrandon | this has turned into a multi month project heh but its not gonna beat me | 09:50 |
| imbrandon | cool | 09:50 |
| fdoving | using adept as test-build. | 09:50 |
| imbrandon | heh thats what i used at first, if you can get it to find the xlibs lemme know | 09:50 |
| imbrandon | i think the xlibs will have to be converted with dpkg-cross and installed | 09:51 |
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| fdoving | that might become a problem. | 09:51 |
| imbrandon | to test if your cross package works grab apt-mirror its an arch all package and change to any | 09:51 |
| fdoving | .. to automate, that is. | 09:51 |
| imbrandon | fdoving, yea | 09:51 |
| fdoving | it works, but i want it inside pbuilder. | 09:52 |
| imbrandon | fdoving, thats kinda where i'm stuck is automating it and making it "clean" i can get it to "work" but not without alot of hacking | 09:52 |
| fdoving | and i also want it "to just work" as the original pbuilder. | 09:52 |
| imbrandon | exactly | 09:52 |
| imbrandon | right , my goal is to make hooks to drop in so you only have to pass the -a | 09:53 |
| imbrandon | eg pbuilder -apowerpc build blah.dsc | 09:53 |
| fdoving | hmm.. i use the arch scripts. | 09:53 |
| fdoving | cowbuilder-edgy-powerpc | 09:53 |
| fdoving | and so on. | 09:53 |
| imbrandon | debuild -apowerpc is what i've been using to test | 09:54 |
| nixternal | quick question: Firefox homepage...the linking is bad, refer to bug 65685 | 09:54 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 65685 in kubuntu-docs ""About Kubuntu" missing "wonderful-linux.html"" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/65685 | 09:54 |
| imbrandon | also had a little trubble getting those debs from the DD to compile in edgy clean too , but thats another story | 09:55 |
| nixternal | is there a reason why we don't just set the homepage to usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kubuntu/about-kubuntu/ | 09:55 |
| nixternal | Riddell: i just replied to jjesse's email about this as well, but im sure you are swamped with a few eons worth of email | 09:55 |
| nixternal | i don't get the whole /etc/alternatives/firefox-homepage and the big cluster circle fork messup it creates | 09:56 |
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| nixternal | im guessing, the reason we use the /etc/alternatives, is because all platforms share the /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/ dir, so setting the symlink makes it easier across the platforms? | 09:57 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, did you notice the comment on bug 65665, can we just change that via k-d-s or would it have to be a cupsd update ? | 10:00 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 65665 in kdebase "Cups printing fails after update to kde-3.5.5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/65665 | 10:00 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: patch to kdelibs I'd think | 10:01 |
| imbrandon | kk i'd bet it has something to do with localhost is actualy 127.0.1.1 not 127.0.0.1 | 10:02 |
| Riddell | _Sime: powermanager/icons is missing | 10:02 |
| imbrandon | in /etc/hosts | 10:02 |
| _Sime | Riddell: I blame sebas for that one.... | 10:03 |
| _Sime | Riddell: are these icons new? | 10:05 |
| Riddell | _Sime: yes, and they're not in the build system | 10:05 |
| _Sime | Riddell: and they were not in the last version of the package? | 10:05 |
| Riddell | _Sime: not in the last one you packaged | 10:06 |
| _Sime | Riddell: I mean .deb. | 10:06 |
| Riddell | yes, they're in the .deb | 10:06 |
| _Sime | Riddell: and they are installed into /usr/share/apps/guidance/pics/? (i'm just checking the install location first.) | 10:08 |
| Riddell | p powermanager/icons/*png $(DEB_DESTDIR)/usr/share/apps/guidance/pics/ | 10:09 |
| Riddell | cp powermanager/icons/battery-charging-100.png $(DEB_DESTDIR)/usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/apps/power-manager.png | 10:09 |
| Riddell | cp powermanager/guidance-power-manager.desktop $(DEB_DESTDIR)/usr/share/autostart/ | 10:09 |
| Riddell | is what happens in debian/rules | 10:09 |
| _Sime | my edgy is up to date, but I don't see the powermanager icons in the list of files for kde-guidance. | 10:10 |
| _Sime | ok, powermanager/icons/*png $(DEB_DESTDIR)/usr/share/apps/guidance/pics/ looks ok. | 10:11 |
| Riddell | _Sime: it's kde-guidance-powermanager now | 10:11 |
| Riddell | the power applet got split out | 10:11 |
| Riddell | dpkg -L kde-guidance-powermanager | grep /usr/share/apps/guidance/pics/batt | 10:11 |
| DaSkreech | nixternal: damn :-( | 10:12 |
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| nixternal | huh? | 10:12 |
| windshear | anyone knows when Bug #30207 will be fixed. | 10:13 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 30207 in kdebase "media:/ does not handle floppy mounting correctly" [Medium,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/30207 | 10:13 |
| DaSkreech | nixternal: someone beat me to the flower garden idea | 10:13 |
| windshear | i think its quite essential that the floppy works in final. | 10:14 |
| Riddell | windshear: it's a long standing issue, I don't forsee it getting fixed | 10:14 |
| DaSkreech | http://cultivation.sourceforge.net | 10:15 |
| windshear | hm, quite bad if in a final the floppy does not work (again!) | 10:15 |
| nixternal | ya, but that is a game. i thought you were going to do like a landscape design thing | 10:15 |
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| imbrandon | i dont even have a floppy drive in any of my computers to test | 10:19 |
| nixternal | haha me either | 10:19 |
| nixternal | i took mine out | 10:19 |
| nixternal | it was wasting space in the server tower | 10:19 |
| imbrandon | well hp and compaq dont put them in, and both the desktops are hp and compaq , apple laptops dont have one, and my server neever needed one so i never put one in | 10:20 |
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| _Sime | Riddell: grab the tarball again, and pray that something else isn't missing. | 10:24 |
| Riddell | :) | 10:26 |
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| nixternal | lol | 10:26 |
| jdong|laptop | apt-get install more-storage-space | 10:26 |
| jdong|laptop | hmm, doesn't seem to work | 10:26 |
| DaSkreech | nixternal: wouldn't it end up being a game in any case :) | 10:26 |
| nixternal | i would use it...i need some good landscaping software for Linux | 10:26 |
| DaSkreech | nixternal: So GardensKape Go? | 10:27 |
| nixternal | hell ya! | 10:27 |
| nixternal | there isn't any landscape programs...and that program looks like some goofy game which im not interested in | 10:28 |
| nixternal | i used a professional package and i can't remember the name...but it was super cool on how it worked | 10:28 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: the series of patches for ark works like a charm | 10:29 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: need to save them until after RC I guess | 10:29 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: sure | 10:29 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: mimetypes are complete and 7z is now integrated like any other format | 10:30 |
| Riddell | testers needed for http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kde-guidance_0.7.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb | 10:30 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: when is the release ? | 10:30 |
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| Riddell | and http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kde-guidance-powermanager_0.7.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb | 10:30 |
| _Sime | Riddell: whooo hooo! | 10:30 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: thursday | 10:30 |
| verwilst__ | omg edgy's nvidia driver is sloooow | 10:30 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: what changes ? | 10:30 |
| verwilst__ | it's like i'm working on a 486 | 10:30 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: one week ? !!! | 10:30 |
| verwilst__ | dragging a windows shocks like hell | 10:30 |
| verwilst__ | resizing a windows shocks too :p | 10:30 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: well maybe we can sneak them in tonight, got a debdiff? | 10:31 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I have the packages ready | 10:31 |
| Tonio_ | just need to upload | 10:31 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: want to revu the patches ? | 10:31 |
| Riddell | sure | 10:31 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: kdeutils patch already revued, here is the konq-plugins patch (ark service menu) | 10:32 |
| Tonio_ | http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/26 | 10:32 |
| Tonio_ | here is the patch | 10:32 |
| DaSkreech | nixternal: So should we make a wikipage for it? | 10:33 |
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| nixternal | hehe, that is up to you | 10:34 |
| trappist | Riddell: you have an amd64 build, or a source package for the new kde-guidance? | 10:36 |
| Riddell | trappist: amd64 uploaded | 10:36 |
| trappist | got it, thanks | 10:37 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: just tell me if that's okay for you and I'll upload | 10:37 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll probably submimt those patches to kde since 7z should be managed the same way than rar, at least | 10:37 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: looks sane to me | 10:38 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: yes, we definately need to get this upstream, although I don't know how maintained ark is just now | 10:38 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: can I upload | 10:42 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: I'm happy, not sure how strict the freeze is, may need to ask mdz | 10:43 |
| mdz | see -devel-announce for current freeze guidelines | 10:44 |
| Tonio_ | mdz: can wait after the freeze, no probleme | 10:45 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: actually I don't think there is an after the freeze | 10:46 |
| imbrandon | after freeze == after release | 10:47 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: well those patches are closing launchpad bugs... | 10:48 |
| verwilst_ | anyone here using compiz with kde in edgy by any chance? :d | 10:48 |
| Tonio_ | verwilst_: works for me with beryl | 10:49 |
| verwilst_ | Tonio_: beryl? | 10:49 |
| imbrandon | beryl works here pretty well ( still kinda slow ) | 10:49 |
| imbrandon | beryl == compiz fork | 10:49 |
| verwilst_ | Tonio_: my X performance is appaling, so i want to try compiz to see if that renders it faster :p | 10:50 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon yeah beryl isn't as fast as compiz | 10:50 |
| Riddell | anyone tested guidance? | 10:50 |
| verwilst_ | imbrandon: oh, didn't even know that | 10:50 |
| verwilst_ | Tonio_: nvidia card? | 10:50 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yeah works here, are there specific thigs to test | 10:50 |
| Tonio_ | ?* | 10:50 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, no, give me a deb i can test | 10:50 |
| Tonio_ | verwilst_: no, intel | 10:50 |
| verwilst_ | hm | 10:50 |
| verwilst_ | i think my next card will be ATI | 10:50 |
| verwilst_ | hell, a GeForce6600GT | 10:51 |
| imbrandon | verwilst_, compiz wont make your X faster, slower if anything | 10:51 |
| verwilst_ | and i can't even drag my windows without serious lag | 10:51 |
| verwilst_ | imbrandon: i thought it did last time :d | 10:51 |
| verwilst_ | hardware rendered windows? | 10:51 |
| imbrandon | verwilst_, are you using the nv driver ? or the nvidia one ? | 10:51 |
| verwilst_ | nvidia :) | 10:51 |
| verwilst_ | but nv driver is equally slow | 10:52 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: 21:30 < Riddell> testers needed for http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kde-guidance_0.7.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb | 10:52 |
| Riddell | 21:30 < Riddell> and http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kde-guidance-powermanager_0.7.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb | 10:52 |
| imbrandon | kool, grabbing now | 10:52 |
| verwilst_ | Riddell: the problem i had at work with configuring dualscreen is that i couldn't save :p | 10:53 |
| verwilst_ | it's all grayed out | 10:53 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: bah, let's keep those patches for edgy+1... this isn't a important issue, although it would be nice to get it fixed... | 10:53 |
| imbrandon | Riddell, guidance seems to work fine here, g-p-m though i'm not on a laptop | 10:55 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: are you on a laptop? | 10:55 |
| imbrandon | no | 10:55 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I am | 10:55 |
| Tonio_ | guidance-power-manager works | 10:55 |
| nixternal | (EE) AIGLX error: dlsym for __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 failed (/usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so: undefined symbol: __driCreateNewScreen_20050727) | 10:55 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: so we don't want it to work :) | 10:56 |
| nixternal | anyone else getting that? | 10:56 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ah :) | 10:56 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 10:56 |
| trappist | Riddell: any part(s) of guidance in particular need beating on? | 10:57 |
| Riddell | trappist: just making sure all the modules work in systemsettings | 10:57 |
| trappist | Riddell: do you care about little stuff like, the last-changed field for a password on a new user says epoch-1 | 10:59 |
| trappist | 12/31/1969 | 11:00 |
| trappist | actually it even says that after I set the password | 11:01 |
| Riddell | trappist: worth filing a bug for | 11:01 |
| trappist | and after I change it again for good measure | 11:01 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I archived the patches for next release, and I'll try to make a point on all compression formats, since ark is a bit messy and unmaintained on that point | 11:01 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: all guidance modules seem to work here | 11:01 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: ping ? | 11:01 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: concerning your patches, you say they work for you, did you test on edgy ? I'm wondering if we uploaded the good version, since it doesn't work on any of my machines | 11:03 |
| imbrandon | trappist, i cant reporduce that | 11:03 |
| trappist | imbrandon: create a new user, set the password in the password & security tab... can't reproduce that? | 11:04 |
| trappist | it looks right on an a preexisting account (mine) | 11:04 |
| jdong | nixternal: that error is normal on fglrx'es | 11:04 |
| jdong | nixternal: they don't support AIGLX yet | 11:04 |
| jdong | nixternal: remember you also need to explicitly disable the composite extension for DRI/3D to initialize | 11:05 |
| nixternal | but why do i have aiglx installed on this machine? | 11:05 |
| nixternal | that is already done, the composite portion | 11:05 |
| nixternal | jdong: are you good with the ATI stuff? | 11:05 |
| jdong | nixternal: kind of | 11:06 |
| nixternal | i have a guy in #ubuntu-classromm that has an ATI with Dapper issue | 11:06 |
| nixternal | im stuck | 11:06 |
| jdong | nixternal: aiglx is in xorg 7.1 by default | 11:06 |
| nixternal | oh ya..forgot about that "crap" ;) | 11:06 |
| jdong | nixternal: I'll hop into the channel, won't guarantee much competence with ATI though :D | 11:06 |
| imbrandon | trappist, yea the date isnt updating, i dont think thats RC though | 11:06 |
| nixternal | #ubuntu-classroom btw jdong ;) | 11:07 |
| imbrandon | the account gets created and is useable , so it is ok | 11:07 |
| jdong | nixternal: yea yea figured it out the second time :D | 11:07 |
| trappist | imbrandon: the date in the first place is a little nasty. should probably say something like N/A | 11:08 |
| imbrandon | actualy it should probably say the date the account was made untill changed the first time | 11:09 |
| imbrandon | but thats an upstream issue imho | 11:10 |
| trappist | yeah, definitely not a packaging issue | 11:10 |
| imbrandon | okies dinner time, bbiab | 11:10 |
| jdong | Riddell: what changed in the new power manager? | 11:10 |
| jdong | everything looks OK | 11:11 |
| Riddell | jdong: nothing | 11:11 |
| jdong | ah ok | 11:13 |
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| fdoving | gnite | 11:13 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: just to show you : http://tonio.homelinux.org/tmp/capture1.png | 11:13 |
| nuku | hm the new power manager does not allow to change cpu throttling settings.. is there another place for it now? | 11:14 |
| Tonio_ | can someone try this please ? inserting an audio cd and opening in konqueror.... | 11:14 |
| Tonio_ | I'm wondering if I ported the patches to 3.5.5 correctly | 11:14 |
| jdong | nuku: install powersave again? :D | 11:15 |
| nuku | :p | 11:15 |
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| jdong | Riddell: guidance display settings bug persists | 11:16 |
| jdong | Riddell: DPMS timeout not preserved across a logout | 11:16 |
| jdong | Riddell: I just set my timeout to 2 minutes, logged out, and now it says 2 hours | 11:16 |
| nuku | i'll go with cpufreq-set then :) | 11:16 |
| jdong | nuku: make a lot of cpufreq-set panel buttons? | 11:17 |
| jdong | :) | 11:17 |
| nuku | jdong: haha :) yeah | 11:17 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_, i can confirm that happens for me too ( with the audio cd ) | 11:18 |
| imbrandon | _Sime, ^ | 11:18 |
| nuku | i have it most time "ondemand" anyway but sometimes perfomance .. well brings just more performance :) | 11:18 |
| jdong | lol | 11:18 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon the point is it works for _Sime | 11:18 |
| jdong | for me, ondemand feels just as snappy | 11:18 |
| jdong | maybe it's because I'm using a core duo whose lowest state is pretty freakin powerful already | 11:19 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: so 1/ my port to kde 3.5.5 is crappy 2/ there is something that has changed in 3.5.5 code that is incompatible with _Sime's work | 11:19 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon I would favor the first option :) | 11:19 |
| nuku | jdong: yeah you may don't even realize what you computer is capable of :) | 11:19 |
| jdong | nuku: I've used it on performance before... | 11:20 |
| jdong | I used to have it default to performance on AC power | 11:20 |
| jdong | (via /etc/acpi) | 11:20 |
| Lure | Riddell: guidance looks ok to me (checked powermanager and basic test with kc modules) | 11:22 |
| Riddell | I'l | 11:24 |
| imbrandon | kitties back ;) | 11:24 |
| Riddell | I'll upload guidance then, any fixes will go into -updates | 11:24 |
| Lure | nuku: edgy uses kernel ondemand and this is snappy, so little need for manual control | 11:26 |
| jdong | Lure: can you reproduce DPMS timeouts not sticking? | 11:27 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon I recompared the patches, the ones in 3.5.5 are correct.... | 11:27 |
| jdong | Lure: I set mine to 2 minutes, and on login it turns into 2 hours, then 5 hours | 11:27 |
| Lure | jdong: only if I log out ;-) | 11:28 |
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| ryanakca | hmm... haven't been here for a while... anything I can do? (except preferably bug triaging)... I have a feeling artwork is finished, can't send stuff to universe anymore... | 11:29 |
| Lure | jdong: confirmed - I set it to 15 min and it is 5 hours after login | 11:30 |
| jdong | Lure: it seems like the restored time is proportional to the originally set time | 11:30 |
| jdong | 2minutes -> 2 hours, 15min -> 5 hours | 11:30 |
| jdong | so it must be saving, but not being read back correctly | 11:31 |
| Lure | jdong: yep | 11:31 |
| jdong | hmm, so who fixes guidance? :D | 11:31 |
| _Sime | jdong: use "xset -q" to find out what the X server things the timeout is. | 11:32 |
| jdong | DPMS (Energy Star): | 11:32 |
| jdong | Standby: 120 Suspend: 120 Off: 120 | 11:32 |
| jdong | DPMS is Enabled | 11:32 |
| jdong | Monitor is On | 11:32 |
| jdong | 2 hours | 11:32 |
| ryanakca | imbrandon: ping | 11:32 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: ah ! | 11:32 |
| _Sime | jdong: and compare that to the value in ~/.kde/....blah.../displayconfigrc | 11:32 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: what test can I do that might help you ? | 11:33 |
| jdong | dpmsSeconds=120 | 11:33 |
| jdong | _Sime: are those values in minutes or seconds? | 11:33 |
| _Sime | jdong: the manual pages says that xset reports seconds. | 11:34 |
| jdong | _Sime: ok, then it's correct right now | 11:34 |
| jdong | _Sime: I'm gonna logout/login and see what it gets reset to | 11:35 |
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| jdong | _Sime: Standby: 7200 Suspend: 7200 Off: 7200 | 11:36 |
| jdong | _Sime: dpmsSeconds=120 | 11:36 |
| jdong | _Sime: hmm, so seconds seem to be turning into minutes on login | 11:36 |
| gnomefreak | was bug 65610 fixed with todays updates? | 11:37 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 65610 in kdebase "[kde 3.5.5] konqueror will not open links" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/65610 | 11:37 |
| _Sime | jdong: you could try putting debug in displayconfig-restore.py around line 169. | 11:39 |
| jdong | _Sime: running displayconfig-restore restores the correct setting | 11:40 |
| jdong | _Sime: strange that it isn't being reset properly at login though | 11:41 |
| _Sime | jdong: displayconfig-restore.py should be getting run at login. | 11:42 |
| jdong | _Sime: yeah, but why isn't it? Lure has the same problem, too | 11:42 |
| _Sime | jdong: if is doesn't run at login then we have a problem. | 11:42 |
| jdong | _Sime: it is in /etc/X11/Xsession.d, but it clearly didn't restore my settings properly... | 11:43 |
| _Sime | jdong: the kde login sequence was changed in 3.5.4 IIRC. | 11:43 |
| jdong | _Sime: that's about when this problem started | 11:43 |
| Lure | _Sime: I am debugging it - it looks like xset -q is reporting it strangely, so it may be restore does it wrongly at first place | 11:43 |
| jdong | Lure: run displayconfig-restore | 11:43 |
| jdong | Lure: at a terminal. For me, that correctly restores the right value | 11:43 |
| _Sime | Lure: can you confirm that displayconfig-restore.py is being run at login? | 11:43 |
| Lure | jdong: yep, you are probably right - -restore is not run at startup | 11:44 |
| Lure | _Sime: will check this now... | 11:44 |
| jdong | _Sime / Lure: gonna do a logout and see if Xsession.d is processed at login | 11:44 |
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| jdong | _Sime: that script is being run at login | 11:47 |
| jdong | so it would appear more like something is coming in and overridding it afterwrads | 11:47 |
| _Sime | maybe. | 11:47 |
| _Sime | bed-time for me, | 11:47 |
| jdong | I wrapped the 40guidance* script with a set of touches, and surely enough both files were created | 11:48 |
| Lure | jdong: it gets converted to minutes somehow (multiplied by 60) | 11:48 |
| jdong | Lure: yeah, the question is, who's doing it? | 11:48 |
| Tonio_ | _Sime: night ! will you be there tomorrow ? | 11:49 |
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| jdong | Lure: xset is only being called once during bootup | 11:51 |
| jdong | and that's correctly, by displayconfig-restore | 11:51 |
| jdong | Lure: something else is using a different method to botch up DPMS | 11:51 |
| Lure | jdong: line 1668 in displayconfig.py is suspitions - it compares intervals[0] (in sec) with dpms_min | 11:51 |
| Lure | jdong: I doubt that this causes it, but it is plain wrong | 11:52 |
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| Lure | jdong: dpms_min is actually in seconds (just to confuse me) ;-) | 11:54 |
| RockMan | Riddell: what's usually the release procedure? link the package to kde-packager ml, then publishing it? | 11:57 |
| Riddell | RockMan: for what? | 12:00 |
| RockMan | Riddell: kdebluetooth | 12:00 |
| Riddell | RockMan: most apps have a string freeze where you tell kde-i18n-doc to translate it, then after a week you release and announce on kde-announce and kde-apps.org and poke me | 12:00 |
| Riddell | RockMan: kde-packager isn't used much except for the actual KDE releases, although I wouldn't mind it being used more | 12:01 |
| RockMan | Riddell: err.. dunnow if it's the case, since it was freeze for nearly one year | 12:01 |
| Riddell | RockMan: just release then :) | 12:01 |
| RockMan | ok | 12:01 |
| Riddell | RockMan: but get someone to check the tar for sanity before you announce it | 12:03 |
| seaLne | Riddell: check your mail :) | 12:03 |
| RockMan | Riddell: i did ^^ above | 12:03 |
| RockMan | although i repackaged it, so.. right.. better to recheck | 12:04 |
| Riddell | RockMan: url? | 12:05 |
| RockMan | Riddell: http://zerogoki.homelinux.org/kdebluetooth-1.0_beta2.tar.bz2 | 12:05 |
| ryanakca | completly offtopic: would ubuntu keep on using Fx, or would they switch to this newfangled, foolish IceWeasel thingy? | 12:05 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: people are talking to mozilla about it | 12:06 |
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| ryanakca | Riddell: kk... | 12:06 |
| Riddell | and iceweasel isn't foolish, it's hardly debian's fault if that's what they have to do | 12:06 |
| jdong | Lure: hmm, I don't think that causes it though | 12:07 |
| jdong | Lure: if I manually run displayconfig-restore as the last item in my session, everything is fine and dandy | 12:08 |
| Lure | jdong: no, not at all - it is just misleading name of variable | 12:08 |
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| jdong | Lure: yet I tried to trap /usr/bin/xset, and it's only called once and correctly | 12:08 |
| jdong | Lure: so there must be an API call of some sort for DPMS timeout | 12:08 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: anything I can do? (except preferably bug triaging)... I have a feeling artwork is finished, can't send stuff to universe anymore... | 12:08 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: every other free software project seems to be happy with that | 12:08 |
| jdong | and some program is using it | 12:08 |
| Lure | jdong: do you have also gnome installed? | 12:09 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: if you can download CDs you could test the accessibility profiles all work | 12:09 |
| jdong | Lure: yep | 12:09 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: no, name it something else, just not my product name... | 12:09 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: umm... no, anything else? | 12:09 |
| Lure | jdong: maybe some gnome/kde desktop interaction (I have gnome now just for two weeks and did not notice this problem before) | 12:09 |
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| ryanakca | Riddell: I'd have to go out and buy myself some more CD's :) | 12:10 |
| jdong | Lure: interesting proposition... | 12:10 |
| Lure | jdong: gnomerc is also after displayconfig_restore | 12:10 |
| jdong | Lure: right, but it shouldn't be run if it's not a gnome session | 12:10 |
| jdong | Lure: if [ "$BASESTARTUP" = gnome-session -o \ | 12:11 |
| Riddell | nixternal: any plans for an rc page? | 12:11 |
| Lure | jdong: right... | 12:11 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: I know, search kde-look.org for a suitable RC announcment image | 12:11 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: anything kubuntu themed | 12:12 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: bbl, supper, RC announcement image? | 12:12 |
| nixternal | Riddell: when is the RC due? | 12:13 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: random image, like the release stories here have http://kubuntu.org/announcements/ | 12:13 |
| Riddell | nixternal: week today | 12:13 |
| nixternal | im getting ready to start working on a page, and was going to message the channel for input in about 15 minutes ;) | 12:13 |
| nixternal | i don't like creating the page early, as it always gets put on Digg | 12:13 |
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