[12:20] kwwii !! [12:20] heh [12:21] the email to -devel said tomarrow is the deadline for RC [12:21] hi imbrandon [12:21] heya [12:21] tomarrow as in thursday [12:21] well, I will have an updated menu bar [12:21] cool [12:22] I just cannot check out the bzr archinve [12:22] ouch, whats wrong ? [12:22] imbrandon: bzr reports a SFTP timeout [12:22] ahh prbably lp supermirror problems === yuriy [n=yuriy@dhcp-129-64-153-72.dorm.brandeis.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:22] imbrandon: I got that when I tried a _checkout_ of one of my branches too [12:22] jdong: thanks for saving me a lot of time [12:23] (checkouts are new features for supermirror) [12:23] kwwii: you might wanna try a plain old http branch [12:23] bzr branch http://path/to/branch [12:23] jdong: same thing [12:23] kwwii, if you want i can upload changes the old way and fix bzr later [12:23] kwwii: over HTTP? 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[08:56] heehee === rouzic_ausente_ [n=rouzic@88.Red-83-52-37.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:01] xeros: there will prbably bit a bit of lag if you try forwarding over irc :) [09:02] anyone know what "scott" on kubuntu-devel@ is meaning? [09:04] i assumed buttons were icons but id don't see what he has listed === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has joined #kubuntu-devel === danimo [n=danimo@kde/danimo] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:31] moin [09:31] can we please get an exception for upgrading Qt 4 to 4.2? [09:35] Riddell: ? === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.120.51] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:02] hi! will kde 3.5.5 be shipped with edgy? === marseillai_ [n=mars_@AMarseille-256-1-109-10.w90-10.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:03] yes [10:03] it's already in the archive === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:04] there is "KDE 3.5.5 is also being uploaded to Edgy" statement at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php, but packages.ubuntu.com shows 3.3.4 currntly [10:05] serzholino: 3.3.4? scary. it's out of date [10:07] 3.3.4? Whee, we're time travellers! === windshear [n=Alain@vpn-wh.rz-zw.fh-kl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:15] sorry, 3.5.4 :( [10:16] serzholino: it needs to update - it shoudl automatically [10:16] ok, thanks === insanekane [n=kane@202.83.35.59] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:30] hello [10:30] anyone knows when Bug #30207 (floppy not working) will be fixed? [10:30] Malone bug 30207 in kdebase "media:/ does not handle floppy mounting correctly" [Medium,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/30207 [10:34] windshear: probably when someone actually figures where the problem is [10:35] hm, i think the problem is that the floppy is /dev/ [10:35] hm, i think the problem is that kubuntu thinks the floppy is /dev/ === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel === [niceday] [n=daniel@87.100.54.106] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gicmo [n=gicmo@p5491FDAA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gicmo [n=gicmo@p5491FDAA.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] [10:57] mdz: http://behindubuntu.org/interviews/MattZimmerman/ sorry for the delay in getting it out === poningru [n=poningru@ip70-171-62-28.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm238.omega16.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@6.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:07] hi [12:08] hey Tonio_! [12:08] hey Hobbsee :) [12:09] Hobbsee: fancy revuing wengophone ? mdz is okay for an upgrade despite the universe freeze [12:09] Tonio_: no, i'm about to go have dinner, sorry [12:09] Hobbsee: but since the packaging is completly different from the previous version, I'd like someone to revu [12:10] Hobbsee: no pb :) [12:10] yeah, i saw. fair enough [12:27] how is a package supposed to install symlinks for a library? [12:32] it should create them during make install [12:32] and you just .install them same as any other file [12:33] Bug #64915 [12:33] Malone bug 64915 in libqt-ruby-qt4 "libsmokeqt-qt4-dev is essentially empty" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64915 [12:33] i notice i am missing a couple of files but even the .la isn't getting installed === seaLne tries again === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@vpnb102.ugent.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:58] Riddell: just to tell you I try to improve the archives management in konq [12:59] Riddell: lots of people like the tar and zip ioslave, so I try to use the ark_part to manage this by default, since that'll work for all kind of archives. [12:59] that'll give a better integration I presume [01:00] Tonio_: mind we're in rc freeze now [01:00] Riddell: I didn't say I wanted to upload this ;) [01:00] that's just playground stuff [01:01] if it works and if the result is really nice, then maybe we can discuss this or dismiss to edgy+1 [01:01] Riddell: it is just a matter of using ark_part instead of ark in the first place [01:02] that doesn't change the program used or anything else, but the point isn't to upload this right now [01:02] Riddell: but that helps me to improve ark too, since for example mimetypes are incomplete... [01:03] usefull for edgy+1 at least [01:07] Riddell: talking about that, mdz is okay for wengophone update, since current package in universe ftbfs [01:07] Riddell: any chance you can revy it ? the package is very different from current one and a bit complex, so I'd like someone to revu it before upload [01:08] Tonio_: ok [01:08] Riddell: thanks [01:25] bleh [01:25] i take it kde 3.5.5 didnt make it to edgy === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:28] viviersf: it dild [01:28] did [01:29] :D [01:29] kewl === goldenear [n=goldenea@vol75-4-82-225-33-186.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:40] Riddell: do you plan to package another kde-guidance? at least one commited bug should be considered RC (the one with Apple laptops) === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-057-241-019.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:45] imbrandon: around? [01:45] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135243 [01:45] KDE bug 135243 in general "Collection scan aborts due to too many errors on smb-shares" [Normal,Resolved: invalid] [01:46] seems that they have a solution for that taglib bug === \sh_away is now known as \sh === nuku2 [n=nuku@e178109139.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:50] Lure: sure, could you file a bug on launchpad with details and i'll target it [01:51] Riddell: bug 64053 (there is also partial fix for bug 64978 which is not RC) [01:51] Malone bug 64053 in kde-guidance "does not recognize ibook as a laptop" [Medium,Fix committed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64053 [01:51] Malone bug 64978 in kde-guidance "powermanager icon sometimes shows fully charged when not" [Undecided,Fix committed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64978 [01:52] Riddell: and _Sime wanted to have kde-guidance release instead of svnYYYYMMDD [01:55] Lure: that would be nice [01:56] _Sime: will you issue new tar-ball release? === Sho_ [i=ehs1@konversation/developer/hein] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:26] imbrandon: ping ping [02:29] Riddell: i'd say imbrandon_ is well and truly idle [02:30] but we need him! === danimo [n=danimo@kde/danimo] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:31] moin [02:31] Riddell: ping? [02:31] hi danimo [02:31] Riddell: kpdfpart is broken [02:31] uh oh [02:31] Riddell: unresolved symbols [02:31] Riddell: does that sounds familar? :) === rouzic [n=rouzic@88.Red-83-52-37.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:33] danimo: oh, kdegraphics 3.5.5 hasn't compiled yet [02:33] it should do soon assuming the poppler fix I uploaded works [02:33] although kdegraphics 3.5.4 shouldn't break just because you're using kdelibs 3.5.5 [02:34] Riddell: oh right, so you did fix poppler. i've been meaning to do that for a while === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:36] heya [02:36] can anybody tell me a kde-ish way how to pair my phone with the box? [02:36] is kbtserialchat the proper way? === RockMan [n=marco@kde/developer/gulino] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:37] dholbach: kanywaythatworks is also effective. :P [02:37] dholbach: RockMan here knows all about kde and bluetooth [02:37] hi [02:37] 13:36 < dholbach> can anybody tell me a kde-ish way how to pair my phone with the box? [02:37] 13:36 < dholbach> is kbtserialchat the proper way? [02:37] RockMan: pleased to meet you [02:38] dholbach: hi :) [02:38] btw nope.. kbtserialchat is only for sending AT commands to the phone serial interface [02:38] RockMan: you might have noticed that we switched to bluez 3.7 [02:38] Riddell: ok [02:38] (in edgy) and this brings us bug 56651 [02:38] Riddell: what about Qt 4.2 btw? [02:38] Malone bug 56651 in bluez-utils "Missing passkey-agent binary" [Unknown,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/56651 [02:38] err.. no, since i don't use ubuntu :P [02:38] ahhhh ok :-) [02:39] but you might be familiar with the implications of using bluez 3.7 and pairing :-) [02:39] although i've installed some kubuntu cd's to my sister and a friend [02:39] hehe, nice :-) [02:39] bluez 3.4 here, but yep.. it should be almost the same [02:39] on Riddell's recommendation, I applied http://www.kmobiletools.org/node/228 to be able to call the old passkey [02:40] however it still does not seem too happy - can you think of an easy KDE-ish way to trigger a "pairing attempt"? [02:40] danimo: I asked mdz who said he wasn't happy with changing a core library this late [02:41] dholbach: you can try the kdebluetooth-dbus integrations [02:41] dholbach: it's in kde svn repostry, in /branches/work/kdebluetooth-dbus-integration [02:41] danimo: I can re-emphasise how happy it will make kde developers and that it's possible to test with 100% of qt 4 apps in main to ensure nothing breaks [02:41] *whine* [02:41] Riddell: yes, but it will make developing KDE 4 on edgy a pain === Tonio_ [n=tonio@6.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:42] Riddell: and that Qt 4.1.x is full of bugs, and Qt 4.2 is an improvement at least for the existing components [02:42] re [02:42] someone can test kpdfpart for me ? [02:42] I have an error and I would like to check if that's me or kde [02:42] heya tonio! [02:42] hey danimo [02:42] RockMan: isn't there a small fix to it or something I can use to try it? I'm not familiar with the codebase at all, but I doubt that we can import a bunch of svn changes two weeks before release :-( [02:43] danimo: when you open a pdf file in konq, do you get something like this ? /usr/lib/kde3/libkpdfpart.so: undefined symbol: _ZN11PSOutputDevC1EPcP4XRefP7Catalogii9PSOutModeiiiiiiii [02:43] dholbach: my patch _is_ a small fix.. [02:43] RockMan: ah that was your fix? nice [02:43] RockMan: how can I try and see if it works? [02:44] RockMan: I'm sorry - I'm not a KDE expert. :-) [02:44] dholbach: as it's written there, launch passkey-agent --default $pin-helper [02:44] Tonio_: if you have a pdf i can try it [02:44] where $pin-helper can be kbluepin === gnomefreak doesnt ever know where to look for a good pdf file [02:44] gnomefreak: print any file to pdf file and then you can test :) [02:44] (better to specify path, since kbluepin often isn't in user $PATH) [02:44] gnomefreak: but note kpdf works, only th kpart fails [02:44] RockMan: Ok - I understand! [02:45] RockMan: thanks a lot [02:45] you're welcome [02:45] Tonio_: aye [02:45] Tonio_: already told Riddell [02:45] danimo: so you confirm ? [02:45] Riddell: now we need to find out how to make that a default for kde users / and bluez-passkey-gnome for gnome users [02:45] Tonio_: kdegraphics 3.5.5 didn't build yet [02:45] Tonio_: but it should not happen nevertheless [02:46] danimo: yes but maybe this is due to konqueror 355 and kpdf 3.5.4 [02:46] danimo: I didn't have that error previously..... [02:46] danimo: let's check what happens with kdegraphics :) [02:47] dholbach: a solution can be a "kdebluetooth" shell script, which launches kbluetoothd (the bluetooth daemon) and the passkey agent [02:48] danimo: kdelibs4-dev (>= 4:3.5.3-1ubuntu2) [02:48] or naming the script kbluetoothd too, so when one calls kbluetoothd the passkey-agent starts too [02:48] maybe that can explain... [02:48] RockMan: which kde user operation should pop up the passkey agent? [02:48] because 3.5.4 is still in the repos [02:48] yes [02:48] danimo: I'm changing the builddeps and check [02:48] dholbach: current user [02:49] dholbach: a weak point of this patch is the multi-user management [02:49] RockMan: hum, what can I do to get such a kde pairing dialog? [02:49] the "--default" option means "register for ALL phones".. and of course you can't have two defaults, the second one will fail [02:49] dholbach: what do you mean? [02:49] RockMan: i see [02:50] RockMan: as a KDE user - where do I click what to see if the passkey agent works or how do I get prompted with a kde pairing dialog box? [02:50] RockMan: I want to confirm it works [02:50] you could specify device address for the second registration.. anyway, these options are "standard" for passkey-agent, not mine [02:50] danimo: I'm testing the build to see what's wrong [02:50] dholbach: dunnow.. i'm doing this with my phone [02:51] RockMan: yes, to pair the phone with the kde box :) [02:51] dholbach: trying browsing obex, for instance, or using kmobiletools [02:51] ok [02:54] danimo: [02:54] Considering libpoppler-qt-dev (>= 0.5.4-0ubuntu3) [02:54] Tried versions: 0.5.4-0ubuntu2 [02:54] -> Does not satisfy version, not trying [02:54] I'll fix this and upload [02:54] Tonio_: it was just uploaded [02:55] dholbach: ah, great, so we just have to wait and reup kdegraphics then [02:55] or failed to build and then riddell uploaded a new version [02:55] ask to give back [02:55] (once the version is published) [02:55] dholbach: okay [02:56] RockMan: I can't get it to pair although I set the passkey-agent default (and applied the bluez-utils patch) [02:56] Oct 12 14:54:36 localhost hcid[7515] : pin_code_request (sba=00:0B:0D:32:09:0A, dba=00:0E:07:8D:1F:1C) [02:56] Oct 12 14:54:36 localhost hcid[7515] : Calling PasskeyAgent.Request: name=:1.35, path=/org/bluez/passkey_agent_7548 [02:56] Oct 12 14:54:36 localhost hcid[7515] : Invalid passkey length from handler [02:56] dholbach: yeah I can see it is currently building [02:57] dholbach: thanks for the info [02:57] Tonio_: ok cool [02:57] dholbach: mmmh [02:57] I'll retry and clean out /var/lib/bluetooth [02:57] dholbach: are you sure that's patched? [02:58] "Invalid passkey length" make me think that it's not, and it's taking "$PATH_TO_KBLUEPIN" as passkey [02:58] and if kbluepin doesn't show, probably i'm right [02:59] dholbach: ** important ** passkey-agent is NOT installed with "make install", so you have to overwrite it manually, if you had already it in your path [02:59] passkey-agent is installed [02:59] we make sure it is [03:00] and yeah, i installed the patched fversion of bluez-utils [03:00] let's try again [03:01] dholbach: when a package is "Dependency wait" on launchpad, is a reup necessary when the dep is there or is that done automatically ? [03:01] just for my curiosity :) [03:01] Tonio_: no, sometimes you need to prod a build admin to get it done, but depwait should resolve it self [03:01] dholbach: thanks for the info [03:01] RockMan: [03:01] Oct 12 15:00:28 localhost hcid[7752] : name_listener_add(:1.38) [03:01] Oct 12 15:00:28 localhost hcid[7752] : Default passkey agent (:1.38, /org/bluez/passkey_agent_7763) registered [03:02] but trying to access "obex file transfer" i get those messages [03:03] my phone prompts me to enter the pin, and whichever pin i enter (the computer's or the phone's), it doesn't like me [03:04] if you have some more info for me or anything else to debug it properly, let me know [03:04] thanks for all your efforts === dholbach -> dogwalk+lunch to be back for the meeting in time === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@vpna069.ugent.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:08] dholbach: i'll upgrade to bluez 3.7 and retest, maybe it needs to be modified [03:08] Tonio_: running "kdeinit" fixed it for me [03:10] danimo: testing [03:10] RockMan: thanks a lot! you ROCK! [03:11] danimo: doesn't fix my issue, but I'll wait for kdegraphics.... I'm sure there is the problem [03:11] Tonio_: (the usual fix: it "injects" an updated version of kdelibs into kdeinit, which launches the part === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@dslb-084-057-241-019.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hein [i=ehs1@dslb-088-073-036-215.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:16] Tonio_: and you need to close the running (and probably all running) konqueror instances after running kdeinit [03:16] Tonio_: then it works [03:16] Tonio_: sometimes konq caches the last running instance. so make sure there is no konq process left running [03:17] Tonio_: should fix your case, too [03:17] Tonio_: if it doesn't, that would not only be a kubuntu packaging bug, but show a violation of KDE's BIC policies [03:17] s/BIC/BC [03:17] danimo: okay === nuku [n=nuku@e178109139.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:28] Tonio_: no need to file a bug on the libkpdfpart.so: undefined symbol since kde is not fully upgraded yet? [03:29] gnomefreak: yeah better waiting for kdegraphics [03:29] ok ill let them know ty === hein is now known as Sho_ === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@vpna069.ugent.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:35] Sucky, dapper doesn't offer other cursor theme alternatives than human [03:38] Ha, had to reinstall xcursor-themes package, weird. === freeflying [n=freeflyi@220.205.54.45] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@vpnb225.ugent.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [04:06] freeflying: around? [04:07] Riddell: hi [04:08] freeflying: are you still having problems with CJK in skype or opera? [04:08] the scim-qtimm patch issue [04:09] Riddell: ya [04:09] freeflying: do you know if there's a bug filed for it? [04:10] Riddell: has one [04:10] freeflying: number? [04:11] Riddell: I'd find it now, but the battery of my mobile and nb will out now :) [04:12] Riddell: I subscribed kubuntu-team to bug 56651 [04:12] Malone bug 56651 in bluez-utils "Missing passkey-agent binary" [Unknown,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/56651 [04:12] Riddell: how about switch back the fonts of kubuntu to sans? [04:13] freeflying: the console? [04:13] freeflying: I'm sure it was Deja in dapper [04:14] mhb: all [04:14] freeflying: well, now the czech characters work, so I'm more happy with that [04:14] Riddell: have you looked at the systemsettings .mo bug yet? [04:14] Riddell: i see, but in dapper, we'd configure it if guys wanna read chinese in non-chinese locale [04:15] mhb: number? [04:15] freeflying: configure by hand? [04:15] Riddell: because dejavu wasn't configure in fontconfig [04:16] bug 63325 [04:16] Malone bug 63325 in kde-systemsettings "systemsettings won't load the desktop_kde-systemsettings.mo translation in Edgy" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/63325 [04:16] you told me you're going to look at it later [04:16] a week ago or so :o) [04:17] mhb: yeah, I know. I've targetted it for the final release now so it'll definately be on my list [04:17] thanks [04:18] freeflying: I need bug number for both the fonts issue and the scim-qtimm issue so I can target them for release [04:18] Riddell: ok, I will file a bug for the font issue :) [04:18] and the scim-qtimm's issue was filed on scim-chewing === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:21] freeflying: no relevant bugs in https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/scim-chewing/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=Unconfirmed&field.status%3Alist=Needs+Info&field.status%3Alist=Rejected&field.status%3Alist=Confirmed&field.status%3Alist=In+Progress&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Committed&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Released&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.owner=&field.status_upstream=&field.status_upstream-empty-mark [04:21] erk [04:21] morning [04:21] or even https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/scim-chewing/+bugs [04:23] yo jdong [04:23] Riddell: meet tinyurl.com :P [04:24] hey jdong [04:25] that's one big URL :D [04:26] a few more characters and snort probably would've zapped this connection ;-) [04:31] dholbach: so you've given up on bug 56651 ? [04:31] Malone bug 56651 in bluez-utils "Impossible to do pairing in Kubuntu" [Unknown,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/56651 [04:31] Riddell: not at all === Riddell hugs dholbach [04:31] Riddell: I just want to invite all the kubuntu guys to get cracking/testing on it with me [04:31] I'm far from being a bluetooth expert === freeflying [n=freeflyi@220.205.139.149] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:33] and I have never used bluetooth [04:34] seaLne: don't you have bluetooth? [04:34] yeah, but nothing to talk to it atm [04:34] yeah, same situation here [04:35] still waiting for bluetooth devices to get below the $75USD mark === Hobbsee has nothing bluetooth related. [04:35] Riddell: malone bug #57081 [04:35] Malone bug 57081 in scim-chewing "scim-chewing: user database file can be corrupted, which render the whole package useless" [High,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57081 [04:35] RockMan: if you have results with 3.7 - let me know, I'm happy to try and test and look :-) [04:35] dholbach: i'm willing to help testing/debugging.. [04:36] nuku: super - did you read my last comment on the bug? [04:36] dholbach: just recompiling now.. i noticed i didn't have my own patch locally (funny, uh?) and kmobiletools homepage (which was hosting it) was offline [04:36] Riddell: in this bug, something is the bug of scim-qtimm actrually [04:36] (and still is, but at least i gained ssh access for downloading it) [04:36] dholbach: yes but .. as RockMan just said the kmobiletools page is down :/ [04:36] hang on, i have the patch somewhere [04:37] wait [04:37] http://people.ubuntu.com/~dholbach/bluez-pin-exec-patch.diff [04:37] i have it here, a bit modified [04:37] ah [04:37] modifications !!! :-) [04:37] oh nothing important === dholbach was just getting excited [04:38] but i added my own version string, so you may be SURE that it's the patched one [04:39] there hasn't been any sign of kwwii today has there? [04:39] anyway, i noticed that i made the patch with bluez 3.2.. the problem is that there's absolutly nothing changed in passkey-agent.c from 3.2 to 3.7.. so i don't know what exactly isn't working [04:39] dholbach, nuku: http://phpfi.com/162881 === Ingmar [n=ingmar@vpnc231.ugent.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:40] so, first run "passkey-agent" without parameters to see if it's patched === Ingmar is now known as Ingmar^ [04:41] i should replace also "agent" with "program" in the help, actually, but it doesn't really matter now.. :P === el [n=konversa@port-83-236-238-37.static.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:41] s/address/passkey/ [04:42] Riddell: ark is missing 7zr integration (still using 7za) [04:42] Riddell: there is a patch for this (2 lines), I'll probably add it, that'll avoid a bug report :) [04:43] Tonio_: ok, got a URL to check the patch? [04:43] RockMan: what is the change between the two patches? [04:43] RockMan: just the version string? [04:44] Riddell: http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/25 [04:44] dholbach: es [04:44] *yes [04:44] Riddell: last part only is necessary, the rest of the patch is for corect mimetypes, and correcting the ark_part.desktop (currently broken) [04:45] RockMan: so can you see the problem with 3.7? [04:45] dholbach: still compiling [04:45] ahhh alrighty [04:45] Riddell: I'm currently building to test it [04:45] dholbach: not easy.. i'm compiling kdelibs, gtk+ and bluez-utils at the same time... :P === kwwii [n=kwwii@p54957E97.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:47] Riddell: ping? [04:47] hey kwwii :) [04:47] howdy Tonio_ [04:48] hi Ken [04:48] hi mh [04:48] hi Tonio_, too :o) [04:48] erm [04:48] b [04:48] kwwii: love the new power-manager color, but doesn't that need a few colors ? [04:48] Tonio_: hehe, yeah, that is what others said too, but the third version I made looked like crap [04:48] and /me is sick [04:49] ah... :( [04:49] Tonio_: do you have a screenshot? [04:49] I have spent the last 14 hours in front of a toillete [04:49] mhb: not here sorry [04:50] dholbach: RockMan: well at least it works when calling the passkey-agent --default /usr/lib/kdebluetooth/kbluepin manually [04:50] kwwii: gastro ? [04:50] nuku: I did that [04:50] nuku: what do you do after that? [04:50] Tonio_: yeah, and it sucks [04:50] kwwii: or alcohol ? :) [04:50] dholbach: connect to the device via kio obex stuff.. [04:50] ah...... yeah I had that last year...... pitty [04:50] Tonio_: funny enough, not this time :p [04:50] hehe [04:50] dholbach: then my mobile asks me for pin and after that the kbluepin pops up .. [04:51] nuku: that what it should do [04:51] kbluepin doesn't pop up for me [04:51] Ro [04:51] RockMan: yep [04:51] nuku: that's normal, then on the celphone, put 1234 [04:51] dholbach: and the version string? [04:51] nuku: is that edgy with bluez-utils 3.7 patched as RockMan suggested? [04:51] Riddell, pong [04:51] hey imbrandon [04:51] morning Tonio_ [04:51] dholbach: right with the passkey-agent helper patch === imbrandon yawns [04:52] Tonio_: well i did not use 1234 to make sure its not something default ;) [04:52] nuku, RockMan: good work - I'll test it later again, thanks for testing [04:52] nuku, RockMan: i have a meeting coming on in 7 minutes [04:52] nuku: use the defined pin then :) [04:52] hehe [04:52] np.. see you later then [04:52] nuku, RockMan: I'm very happy if this is the fix and all is good :-) === Porkotron [n=parker@dyn129-100-97-91.bc.uwo.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:53] nuku, RockMan: Thanks again [04:53] dholbach: but the passkey-agent is not installed with the deb.. [04:53] nuku: it is [04:53] um [04:54] nuku: hum, how did I get that into /usr/bin/ then [04:54] nuku: ok, I'll figure that out ... somehow :) [04:54] nuku: gracias [04:54] no problem === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@211.94.181.61] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:55] dholbach: the install line for the passkey-agent is commented out in the rules [04:55] (i told him.. :P) [04:56] Riddell: heh, 's/elif/else if' in the patch, of course.... [04:56] nuku: that's easy enough to fix - i just thought we had it fixed since I had it in /usr/bin already :-) [04:56] dholbach: it can explain why it didn't work for you.. you didn't install the patched version :P [04:56] oh lord [04:56] dholbach: maybe you followed the bug report where someone told to copy it in /usr/bin :) [04:57] imbrandon: yo, I believe you hve some konversation stuff for Sho_? [04:57] lalalalala === dholbach blushes and storms out the door [04:57] just retested, it works here [04:57] kwwii: pong [04:57] Riddell: I had some problems with checking out or branching the bzr for k-d-s [04:58] kwwii: what did you do? [04:58] the exact commands that you sent in your mail (and I asked here, nobody knew what it was) [04:58] Tonio_: patch look fine with that elif change [04:58] kwwii: and what was the error? [04:58] Riddell: yeah, if that works locally, I'll upload [04:59] bzr: ERROR: Connection error: Unable to connect to SSH host bazaar.launchpad.net:None: [04:59] kwwii: do you have python2.4-paramiko installed? [05:00] Riddell: yepp [05:01] and you're doing bzr checkout sftp://@bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kubuntu-default-settings/ubuntu ? [05:02] Riddell: ahhhh, the username part was missing, one second [05:02] use your launchpad account name [05:05] Riddell: can we work on this later (still no luck) [05:06] kwwii: sure === rouzic [n=rouzic@88.Red-83-52-37.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:10] RockMan: you patch does not check for length of "passkey" and "address" when sprintf into a 256 byte buffer :P [05:10] right [05:11] isn't that what -fstack-protector is for? === jdong ducks [05:11] as i said, it was more a "hack", i wasn't expecting to be included by default in a distro [05:12] hmm ... when a deadline is today, does that mean I cannot modify the stuff tomorrow or today already? === abattoir can test bluetooth stuff... [05:16] or am i too late? === alleeHol [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@220.207.80.206] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:22] RockMan: one more question where do i need to set the passkey helper like kbluepin to be used as default? i still need to call the passkey-agent from a terminal to make bluetooth work.. [05:23] abattoir: no, please, test too :) [05:23] nuku: you can autostart it, for instance from ~/.kde/Autostart [05:23] dunnow if it exists a global one [05:24] abattoir, nuku: i'm also packaging kdebluetooth-1.0_beta2... could you test it? [05:24] RockMan: sure [05:24] i386? [05:24] sure.. [05:24] RockMan: hmm well using autostart is no real solution i guess.. [05:25] abattoir: sources... === Porkotron_ [n=parker@dyn129-100-97-103.bc.uwo.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:25] RockMan: ok :) [05:25] nuku: i can't imagine what the solution could be.. i'm a coder, not a maintainer.. [05:26] does kde use /usr/share/autostart? [05:26] dunnow [05:26] RockMan: hehe :) .. hmm it seems that the gnome passkey thingie also creates an autostart entry.. [05:26] if it would, we could add an autostart file to kdebluetoot [05:26] h [05:26] *shrug* [05:27] gnome does and bluez-passkey-gnome does this [05:27] dholbach: i think one already exists [05:27] kdebluetooth is _already_ autostarted by default === abattoir sees a kbluetoothd.autostart.desktop there [05:27] but kdebluetooth != passkey-agent [05:27] RockMan: we could add another .desktop file [05:27] that's what I meant :-) [05:27] yep [05:28] and maybe we can tweak it so that each of them are only started in the kde or in the gnome session [05:28] that would rock [05:29] kdebluetooth installs it in $datadir.. i guess it's /usr/share [05:29] yeah [05:29] but _check_ first.. i don't have ubuntu, and here the prefix is /usr/kde/3.5 [05:29] alright [05:29] where goes kbluetoothd.autostart.desktop in kubuntu? [05:29] it's just an idea and I'll ask Riddell before doing anything [05:29] /usr/share/autostart [05:30] abattoir: so i guess that the directory is shared :) [05:30] hi, Riddell: malone bug #65697 [05:30] Malone bug 65697 in kubuntu-default-settings "kubuntu dapper can't display Chinese in non-Chinese locale" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/65697 [05:30] hm there is an OnlyShowIn=KDE in the desktop :) [05:30] i think that will do the trick ;) [05:30] RockMan: umm.. yes.. :P [05:49] RockMan: i guess you are still working on the beta2 release of kdebluetooth?! [05:49] yep [05:49] or, better... it's fetching i18n files for packaging [05:50] (which is _REALLY_ slow.....) [05:54] Riddell: I'm patching kdelibs to remove p7zip protocol from x-7z mimetype... [05:54] Tonio_: why? [05:54] Riddell: doesn't work as we don't have the 7zip ioslave installed by default, so better using ark in the first place [05:55] Riddell: the result is konq intagration doesn't use ark_part, but p7zip protocol, when ioslave isn't installed.... -> error message [05:55] Riddell: I'm playing with compressed files since a few hours, and lots of things can be done arround that.... lots of little issues like this one [05:56] Riddell: in the desktop file [05:56] [Property::X-KDE-LocalProtocol] [05:56] Type=QString [05:56] Value=p7zip [05:56] now enter p7zip:/ in konq -> can't work, since the protocol is undefined [05:57] makes me wonder why that's in kdelibs when p7zip ioslave isn't [05:57] Riddell: I don't know, but now I understanf why so many people are complaning 7z files are unmanageable in kubuntu === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i577B3879.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:58] kdelibs has crappy entries and ark needs patching....... [05:58] can't say I've ever come across a 7z file :) [05:58] Riddell: I'm doing the necessary for correct integration, and you'll revu the patches before upload, is that okay for you ? [05:58] Riddell: I don't too, but lots of people use them :) [05:59] Riddell: I guess that the problem is that my ssh-key is missing on launchpad.net? [05:59] kwwii: that could well be it [06:01] Riddell: even ark servicemenu is incomplete and doesn't manage 7z files, when ark standalone can....... [06:01] Riddell: looks like kde devs don't use 7zip a lot :) [06:02] Riddell: I won't patch kdelibs, but disable the protocol in kds, like I do for tar and zip [06:02] Riddell: better that merging a new patch everytime [06:03] yeah === apokryphos [n=apokryph@87-194-86-227.bethere.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:32] Riddell: are Qt 4.2 packages for i386 available at kubuntu.org? [06:35] abattoir: aren't they in edgy with "kdecopy"? [06:35] http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=kdecopy&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all === \sh is now known as \sh_away [06:36] apokryphos: the -kdecopy designer doesn't work :(, i'll look at it again, thanks === rouzic [n=rouzic@16.Red-88-19-42.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:42] abattoir: no, but I'll upload 4.2 to edgy this evening [06:42] Riddell: great, thanks :) [06:49] Riddell, ... [06:49] [11:44] imbrandon: http://www.eikehein.com/diffstat.txt is my commentary to the diffstat if that's a topic of discussion [06:49] [11:45] k [06:49] [11:46] imbrandon: We've done build tests on x86, PPC, amd64, some on Edgy, gcc 3.4 - 4.2, KDE 3.4 & 3.5 [06:49] if that will help with mdz ^ [06:49] and i added a buildlog to the bug [06:51] Riddell, and it would close all bugs in BTW and no new bugs have been filed since release in KDE BTS for Konversation [06:51] s/BTW/malone [06:58] is kopete in backports yet? === Porkotron_ [n=parker@dyn129-100-97-103.bc.uwo.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:01] Riddell, seems source only [07:01] kopete | 4:3.5.4+kopete0.12.2-0ubuntu1~dapper1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/main Sources [07:01] no binarys [07:01] humph [07:01] so it needs to be built for the kde 3.5.5 repository [07:02] Riddell, yea looks like it [07:07] abattoir, nuku, dholbach: ping [07:07] Riddell: bzr is working now, I will update a couple of pics sometime either later tonight or early tomorrow morning...guess we need to add a folder for the 16color usplash as well now [07:07] RockMan: the package is up? [07:07] nope [07:07] kwwii: ok, let me know when you commit that [07:07] still waiting for i18n to download [07:07] (how slow =_=) [07:07] RockMan: pong [07:08] kwwii: usplash has a funky build system, just put it in the existing directory and I'll work out what needs done [07:08] kwwii: I'd say for the 16 colour one just use the dapper usplash [07:08] but i updated the patch for passkey-agent, dynamically allocating memory for passkey string size, instead of using char[256] [07:08] Riddell: ok, will do [07:08] http://www.kmobiletools.org/files/bluez-pin-exec-patch-r2.diff.bz2 [07:09] Riddell: I will try to make the new version somehow with 16 colors, or something like it...if nothing else we can use the dapper usplash instead [07:10] dholbach: IF you were already using the patched version, this should also fix your problem [07:10] RockMan: I'm still in the meeting [07:10] RockMan: i'll make sure to check it afterwards [07:10] kwwii: by the way the akademy 2007 team wants to do a contest for the logo, just to warn you [07:11] RockMan: in a clean environment [07:11] dholbach: np, i just wanted to inform you.. you'll find the updated version in kmobiletools homepage, anyway [07:11] thanks a lot! [07:11] good work on that! [07:11] RockMan: hm i was wondering .. by the patch the original behavior of the application gets broken... but as it isn't installed in the first place we should not care?! ;) [07:12] nuku: exactly :) [07:12] and anyway, i checked code, to see how it was working.. it doesn't break anything [07:12] unless i was missing something important [07:13] RockMan: best solution would probably be to incorporate the dbus stuff into kbluebin sometime.. [07:13] nuku: it's already done, but it needs a lot of testing [07:13] RockMan: ah i see [07:13] nuku: it's in kde svn repostry, in /branches/work/kdebluetooth-dbus-integration [07:14] Riddell: I heard that....and warned them against it [07:14] Riddell, i got a chance to test my kubuntu-artwork-uspash.postinst changes to k-d-s 6.10-55 they work perfect [07:14] "them" being seaLne [07:14] ( with an upgrade from dapper ) [07:14] and now you :p [07:14] imbrandon: is it in bzr? [07:14] Riddell: it's already decided where it will be? [07:14] RockMan: yes [07:14] Riddell, afaik Tonio_ put it there, let me check [07:14] Riddell: (and where?) [07:15] RockMan: glasgow, but that's top secret so don't tell anyone [07:15] np [07:17] very near the last akademy, this time [07:17] RockMan: don't want to be picky but the patch misses a check if malloc failed :P [07:18] oh.. right [07:18] sorry, i don't code pure c from a long time === rouzic [n=rouzic@16.Red-88-19-42.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:18] hehe yes c can be evil :) === rouzic [n=rouzic@16.Red-88-19-42.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === kwwii cooks dinner for his son [07:26] nuku: ok, should be fixed now === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:40] nuku, abattoir: http://zerogoki.homelinux.org/index.php [07:40] err.. [07:40] no [07:40] nuku, abattoir: http://zerogoki.homelinux.org/kdebluetooth-1.0_beta2.tar.bz2 [07:45] RockMan: thanks, downloadingnow [07:45] RockMan: anything particular to keep a look at? [07:46] <_Sime> sebas: ping [08:07] imbrandon have stuff to commit to kds ? because I'm just preparing a new version [08:07] Tonio_, yea, doing a commit to bzr right now [08:07] just a sec [08:08] imbrandon okay I'll sync my work then [08:08] err actualy i just checked, its all there already [08:08] go for it ;) [08:08] all my changes were in -55 [08:09] imbrandon Riddell already commited the postinst stuff fyi [08:09] yea i seen , thanks, thats what i was checking [08:09] imbrandon I'm patching ark to manage 7z files correctly [08:09] but bzr was being SLOW [08:09] yup yup, all good bro [08:09] it's 7z support is a horible mess, while rar is managed correctly.....; I don't understand the reason of this, but that's a shame for an open compression format [08:10] and yes, bzr is very slow.... [08:13] Riddell, any more word on konversation from mdz [08:14] imbrandon: bug 64488 [08:14] Malone bug 64488 in konversation "UVFe ( main ) for konversation 1.0 to 1.0.1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64488 [08:15] oh heya mdz wasent sure if you were in here /me looks [08:15] nuku: not exactly.. it's almost bug fixes, check if it compiles and if it works correctly === Tonio_ [n=tonio@6.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:16] re [08:16] 7z extraction work...... now compression.... [08:22] RockMan: i see.. some of the patches from the ubuntu source package are already applied as it seem .. now building the deb :) [08:22] this release also has public headers, so maybe you need also to build a -dev package [08:22] (needed for kmobiletools) === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:25] is it just me, or is konq 3.5.5 noticeably faster? [08:25] and more responsive when switching tabs === jdong just upgraded his fglrx too, so that might be a factor [08:26] jdong: speed improvements to KHTML are listed in the changelog [08:27] yeah; I guess they actually meant it :D === Riddell detects sceptisism :) [08:29] well... it's just that "speed improvements" is such a widely {mis}used term [08:29] so often people claim it, and I don't feel a darn thing [08:29] and other times, people say "slight optimization" and all of a sudden my speed doubles [08:30] but damn, this is quite amazing === n8k99 [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:30] :) [08:32] <_Sime> Riddell: new version of guidance is up on my website (http://www.simonzone.com/software/guidance/ ) [08:33] holy crap even scrolling is faster === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:38] =) [08:39] whoa! even my coffee is brewing faster [08:39] wait... that's not KDE... [08:43] jdong: It is, trust me. [08:43] Tm_T: must be my super-optimized CFLAGS then ;-) [08:44] I was told on #gentoo to use -f'in-grind-my-coffee-already [08:44] jdong: Tab switching was indeed made faster, by reusing a QTimer instead of queueing up new ones [08:44] :) [08:45] KDE <3 === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@232.144-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.229.136] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:47] _Sime: cool [08:49] RockMan: i'm unable to pair w/ my phone [08:50] abattoir: with.. what? are you using the patched passkey-agent? [08:50] RockMan: had to run 'sudo hciconfig hci0 piscan' for my pc to be discoverable too [08:50] RockMan: yes, i applied the patch [08:50] RockMan: phew found the hidden one :) the openobex check does not generate a correct error message when the version is not >=1.1 .. [08:50] abattoir: make sure it's applied, run "passkey-agent" without arguments, and look it in the version string [08:51] nuku: looking, thanks [08:51] that configure.in.in is a hell anyway :( [08:51] mdz, ping, ok all information requested is now attached to the bug along with some other upstream comments on the diffstat code for bug 64488 [08:51] Malone bug 64488 in konversation "UVFe ( main ) for konversation 1.0 to 1.0.1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64488 [08:51] RockMan: thats very true [08:51] RockMan: hmm, it says 3.6 :( , i'll re-apply and compile [08:52] (or is it supposed to say that?) [08:52] abattoir: it should say "3.6", but it should also say "with patch" etc etc [08:52] imbrandon: not exactly, but it will do [08:52] imbrandon: for future reference, a diff from the current version to the proposed version is appropriate [08:52] abattoir: passkey-agent is NOT installed with "make install", you have to copy it manually [08:52] RockMan: ok, it doesn't, i think i made a mistake... [08:52] RockMan: i modified Makefile in hcid/ [08:53] mdz, sure thing, i'll update the wiki to refelct that and also that that wiki applys to MAIN also not just universe [08:53] the wiki only says diffstat but i can do a diff also if you would like [08:53] imbrandon: don't worry about the wiki; I'm working on a replacement document [08:53] abattoir: just change the debian/rules .. the install line is commented out.. [08:53] mdz, sweet ok, cool yea it would be nice to have it clear ;) [08:54] abattoir: make sure also you've the newest patch, in kmobiletools.org [08:54] RockMan: i have r2 [08:54] ok [08:55] would you like a diff of the source directorys too? i can do that quickly ( the changes are sumed up in the upstream diffstat.txt ) and also Sho_ is online ( the konversation release manager if we need to tackle something specific ) [08:55] mdz, ^ [08:56] imbrandon: I said that the current information will do [08:56] ok [08:57] I've updated the bug [08:57] thanks for the time, sorry this one was such a cluster^Wmess, will follow the new doc from here on [08:58] imbrandon: put simply, go ahead and update it, but only if you're willing to accept responsibility for this being the final version, even if something goes wrong [08:58] nuku: ok, i'll try [08:58] mdz, ok [08:58] nuku: just adding AC_MSG_WARN(openobex version 1.1 or higher is required to build kdebluetooth) should do the job.. you meant this, right? [08:59] yep something like this.. [08:59] Riddell, sound ok to you? if so i have it ready === DaSkreech [n=skreech@port0002-abm-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:59] (now the weird thing is that i've to re-run svn2dist =__=) [09:01] Riddell, also have any printing changes went in yet , i can test again today too [09:01] mdz, imbrandon: Replied to bug [09:01] imbrandon: where's your konversation repository? [09:02] Riddell, imbrandon.com i havent uploaded 1.0.1 yet, well its uploading now actualy , just a sec i'll tell you when its done [09:07] _Sime: the guidance tar doesn't have any translations in it [09:09] <_Sime> mmm [09:11] <_Sime> I guess all the translations are spread through the i18n svn tree. [09:11] _Sime: yes, you have to use svn2dist to get them, but you also have to modify svn2dist since it works on the Makefile.am messages rule that we don't have === Riddell grabs them [09:14] <_Sime> what have you guys been done with all of hte svnYYYYMMDD versions? [09:14] <_Sime> ok [09:14] using a hacked svn2dist [09:17] _Sime: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/guidance.tar.bz2 [09:18] grab the po directory from that and make a 0.7.0a if you wish [09:21] <_Sime> ok [09:21] Riddell,uploaded: deb http://imbrandon.com/packages edgy konversation ( or http://www.imbrandon.com/packages/pool/edgy/konversation/konversation_1.0.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb ) [09:21] _Sime: I get "error: can't copy 'kde/wineconfig/pics/16x16/wineconfig.svg': doesn't exist or not a regular file" [09:22] brb , phone [09:22] Riddell, RockMan: Marcel Holtmann (bluez upstream) added a comment on bug 56651 too [09:22] Malone bug 56651 in bluez-utils "Impossible to do pairing in Kubuntu" [Unknown,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/56651 [09:22] <_Sime> Riddell: I'll fix that too... hang on. [09:25] dholbach: that's nearly what i said.. that patch is just a hack [09:25] <_Sime> I'll just test the tarball I made. [09:25] kdebluetooth dbus integration should be ready.. it just needs to be tested (_A_LOT_) [09:26] RockMan: so edgy+1 :-/ [09:26] well.. dunnow.. if there's time enough to test, you could try including it in edgy [09:27] how big is the patch? === n8k99 [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:27] it's not a patch, it's a new branch [09:27] ok, how big would a diff be? [09:27] [14:40] dholbach: it's in kde svn repostry, in /branches/work/kdebluetooth-dbus-integration [09:27] yes [09:28] but a diff between the current kdebluetooth and kdebluetooth-dbus would be possible, or is it a completely new module? [09:28] how big are the dependencies when just backporting the kbluepin? [09:30] its maybe a more trivial task in the end as the passkey-agent does not look that complicated.. [09:30] I fear that if the diff is not easily eyeball-able we won't get it in. [09:31] i'd repackage it, it's not an update that could be done with a patch [09:31] or better.. yep, it could, but it's not that convenient, imho [09:32] *nod* [09:32] I understand. [09:32] it should be used in suse+1, going out at the end of this month.. actually it was coded by a suse guy === jr [n=jr@host-84-9-235-204.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:34] groovy [09:34] i see .. he wrapped classes around the dcop handlers.. [09:34] dbus [09:34] more === DaSkreech [n=skreech@port0034-afo-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:37] imbrandon: going to upload konversation then? [09:37] Riddell, sure, i'm on it now [09:37] lemme just add the uvf bug number then i'll have it up === Sho_ hugs mdz, imbrandon & Riddell === DaSkreech [n=skreech@port0034-afo-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:47] <_Sime> Riddell: I just switched the tarball on my site with the fixed version. I even tested it here(!) [09:47] <_Sime> wonders will never cease. === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:48] imbrandon: did you make cross compiling work in pbuilder? [09:49] fdoving, yes ( but there are still some library issues for some apps , but simple apps cross-compile ) [09:50] and it takes some hacking in the pbuilder chroot, i'm still working on some clean ways to do somethings [09:50] i'm hacking a chroot now. [09:50] this has turned into a multi month project heh but its not gonna beat me [09:50] cool [09:50] using adept as test-build. [09:50] heh thats what i used at first, if you can get it to find the xlibs lemme know [09:51] i think the xlibs will have to be converted with dpkg-cross and installed === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:51] that might become a problem. [09:51] to test if your cross package works grab apt-mirror its an arch all package and change to any [09:51] .. to automate, that is. [09:51] fdoving, yea [09:52] it works, but i want it inside pbuilder. [09:52] fdoving, thats kinda where i'm stuck is automating it and making it "clean" i can get it to "work" but not without alot of hacking [09:52] and i also want it "to just work" as the original pbuilder. [09:52] exactly [09:53] right , my goal is to make hooks to drop in so you only have to pass the -a [09:53] eg pbuilder -apowerpc build blah.dsc [09:53] hmm.. i use the arch scripts. [09:53] cowbuilder-edgy-powerpc [09:53] and so on. [09:54] debuild -apowerpc is what i've been using to test [09:54] quick question: Firefox homepage...the linking is bad, refer to bug 65685 [09:54] Malone bug 65685 in kubuntu-docs ""About Kubuntu" missing "wonderful-linux.html"" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/65685 [09:55] also had a little trubble getting those debs from the DD to compile in edgy clean too , but thats another story [09:55] is there a reason why we don't just set the homepage to usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kubuntu/about-kubuntu/ [09:55] Riddell: i just replied to jjesse's email about this as well, but im sure you are swamped with a few eons worth of email [09:56] i don't get the whole /etc/alternatives/firefox-homepage and the big cluster circle fork messup it creates === Sho_ [i=ehs1@konversation/developer/hein] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Stop] [09:57] im guessing, the reason we use the /etc/alternatives, is because all platforms share the /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/ dir, so setting the symlink makes it easier across the platforms? [10:00] Riddell, did you notice the comment on bug 65665, can we just change that via k-d-s or would it have to be a cupsd update ? [10:00] Malone bug 65665 in kdebase "Cups printing fails after update to kde-3.5.5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/65665 [10:01] imbrandon: patch to kdelibs I'd think [10:02] kk i'd bet it has something to do with localhost is actualy 127.0.1.1 not 127.0.0.1 [10:02] _Sime: powermanager/icons is missing [10:02] in /etc/hosts [10:03] <_Sime> Riddell: I blame sebas for that one.... [10:05] <_Sime> Riddell: are these icons new? [10:05] _Sime: yes, and they're not in the build system [10:05] <_Sime> Riddell: and they were not in the last version of the package? [10:06] _Sime: not in the last one you packaged [10:06] <_Sime> Riddell: I mean .deb. [10:06] yes, they're in the .deb [10:08] <_Sime> Riddell: and they are installed into /usr/share/apps/guidance/pics/? (i'm just checking the install location first.) [10:09] p powermanager/icons/*png $(DEB_DESTDIR)/usr/share/apps/guidance/pics/ [10:09] cp powermanager/icons/battery-charging-100.png $(DEB_DESTDIR)/usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/apps/power-manager.png [10:09] cp powermanager/guidance-power-manager.desktop $(DEB_DESTDIR)/usr/share/autostart/ [10:09] is what happens in debian/rules [10:10] <_Sime> my edgy is up to date, but I don't see the powermanager icons in the list of files for kde-guidance. [10:11] <_Sime> ok, powermanager/icons/*png $(DEB_DESTDIR)/usr/share/apps/guidance/pics/ looks ok. [10:11] _Sime: it's kde-guidance-powermanager now [10:11] the power applet got split out [10:11] dpkg -L kde-guidance-powermanager | grep /usr/share/apps/guidance/pics/batt [10:12] nixternal: damn :-( === windshear [n=Alain@vpn-wh.rz-zw.fh-kl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:12] huh? [10:13] anyone knows when Bug #30207 will be fixed. [10:13] Malone bug 30207 in kdebase "media:/ does not handle floppy mounting correctly" [Medium,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/30207 [10:13] nixternal: someone beat me to the flower garden idea [10:14] i think its quite essential that the floppy works in final. [10:14] windshear: it's a long standing issue, I don't forsee it getting fixed [10:15] http://cultivation.sourceforge.net [10:15] hm, quite bad if in a final the floppy does not work (again!) [10:15] ya, but that is a game. i thought you were going to do like a landscape design thing === robotgeek [i=venkat@digital.celebris.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:19] i dont even have a floppy drive in any of my computers to test [10:19] haha me either [10:19] i took mine out [10:19] it was wasting space in the server tower [10:20] well hp and compaq dont put them in, and both the desktops are hp and compaq , apple laptops dont have one, and my server neever needed one so i never put one in === jdong|laptop [n=jdong@d192-24-190-138.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === [niceday] [n=daniel@87.100.54.106] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:24] <_Sime> Riddell: grab the tarball again, and pray that something else isn't missing. [10:26] :) === n8k99 [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:26] lol [10:26] apt-get install more-storage-space [10:26] hmm, doesn't seem to work [10:26] nixternal: wouldn't it end up being a game in any case :) [10:26] i would use it...i need some good landscaping software for Linux [10:27] nixternal: So GardensKape Go? [10:27] hell ya! [10:28] there isn't any landscape programs...and that program looks like some goofy game which im not interested in [10:28] i used a professional package and i can't remember the name...but it was super cool on how it worked [10:29] Riddell: the series of patches for ark works like a charm [10:29] Tonio_: need to save them until after RC I guess [10:29] Riddell: sure [10:30] Riddell: mimetypes are complete and 7z is now integrated like any other format [10:30] testers needed for http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kde-guidance_0.7.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb [10:30] Riddell: when is the release ? === verwilst__ [n=verwilst@d54C1EB55.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:30] and http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kde-guidance-powermanager_0.7.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb [10:30] <_Sime> Riddell: whooo hooo! [10:30] Tonio_: thursday [10:30] omg edgy's nvidia driver is sloooow [10:30] Riddell: what changes ? [10:30] it's like i'm working on a 486 [10:30] Riddell: one week ? !!! [10:30] dragging a windows shocks like hell [10:30] resizing a windows shocks too :p [10:31] Tonio_: well maybe we can sneak them in tonight, got a debdiff? [10:31] Riddell: I have the packages ready [10:31] just need to upload [10:31] Riddell: want to revu the patches ? [10:31] sure [10:32] Riddell: kdeutils patch already revued, here is the konq-plugins patch (ark service menu) [10:32] http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/26 [10:32] here is the patch [10:33] nixternal: So should we make a wikipage for it? === marseillai_ is now known as marseillai [10:34] hehe, that is up to you [10:36] Riddell: you have an amd64 build, or a source package for the new kde-guidance? [10:36] trappist: amd64 uploaded [10:37] got it, thanks [10:37] Riddell: just tell me if that's okay for you and I'll upload [10:37] Riddell: I'll probably submimt those patches to kde since 7z should be managed the same way than rar, at least [10:38] Tonio_: looks sane to me [10:38] Tonio_: yes, we definately need to get this upstream, although I don't know how maintained ark is just now === Ingmar [n=ingmar@232.144-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:42] Riddell: can I upload [10:43] Tonio_: I'm happy, not sure how strict the freeze is, may need to ask mdz [10:44] see -devel-announce for current freeze guidelines [10:45] mdz: can wait after the freeze, no probleme [10:46] Tonio_: actually I don't think there is an after the freeze [10:47] after freeze == after release === verwilst_ [n=verwilst@d54C1EB55.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:48] Riddell: well those patches are closing launchpad bugs... [10:48] anyone here using compiz with kde in edgy by any chance? :d [10:49] verwilst_: works for me with beryl [10:49] Tonio_: beryl? [10:49] beryl works here pretty well ( still kinda slow ) [10:49] beryl == compiz fork [10:50] Tonio_: my X performance is appaling, so i want to try compiz to see if that renders it faster :p [10:50] imbrandon yeah beryl isn't as fast as compiz [10:50] anyone tested guidance? [10:50] imbrandon: oh, didn't even know that [10:50] Tonio_: nvidia card? [10:50] Riddell: yeah works here, are there specific thigs to test [10:50] ?* [10:50] Riddell, no, give me a deb i can test [10:50] verwilst_: no, intel [10:50] hm [10:50] i think my next card will be ATI [10:51] hell, a GeForce6600GT [10:51] verwilst_, compiz wont make your X faster, slower if anything [10:51] and i can't even drag my windows without serious lag [10:51] imbrandon: i thought it did last time :d [10:51] hardware rendered windows? [10:51] verwilst_, are you using the nv driver ? or the nvidia one ? [10:51] nvidia :) [10:52] but nv driver is equally slow [10:52] imbrandon: 21:30 < Riddell> testers needed for http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kde-guidance_0.7.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb [10:52] 21:30 < Riddell> and http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kde-guidance-powermanager_0.7.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb [10:52] kool, grabbing now [10:53] Riddell: the problem i had at work with configuring dualscreen is that i couldn't save :p [10:53] it's all grayed out [10:53] Riddell: bah, let's keep those patches for edgy+1... this isn't a important issue, although it would be nice to get it fixed... [10:55] Riddell, guidance seems to work fine here, g-p-m though i'm not on a laptop [10:55] imbrandon: are you on a laptop? [10:55] no [10:55] Riddell: I am [10:55] guidance-power-manager works [10:55] (EE) AIGLX error: dlsym for __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 failed (/usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so: undefined symbol: __driCreateNewScreen_20050727) [10:56] imbrandon: so we don't want it to work :) [10:56] anyone else getting that? [10:56] Riddell: ah :) [10:56] hehe [10:57] Riddell: any part(s) of guidance in particular need beating on? [10:57] trappist: just making sure all the modules work in systemsettings [10:59] Riddell: do you care about little stuff like, the last-changed field for a password on a new user says epoch-1 [11:00] 12/31/1969 [11:01] actually it even says that after I set the password [11:01] trappist: worth filing a bug for [11:01] and after I change it again for good measure [11:01] Riddell: I archived the patches for next release, and I'll try to make a point on all compression formats, since ark is a bit messy and unmaintained on that point [11:01] Riddell: all guidance modules seem to work here [11:01] _Sime: ping ? [11:03] _Sime: concerning your patches, you say they work for you, did you test on edgy ? I'm wondering if we uploaded the good version, since it doesn't work on any of my machines [11:03] trappist, i cant reporduce that [11:04] imbrandon: create a new user, set the password in the password & security tab... can't reproduce that? [11:04] it looks right on an a preexisting account (mine) [11:04] nixternal: that error is normal on fglrx'es [11:04] nixternal: they don't support AIGLX yet [11:05] nixternal: remember you also need to explicitly disable the composite extension for DRI/3D to initialize [11:05] but why do i have aiglx installed on this machine? [11:05] that is already done, the composite portion [11:05] jdong: are you good with the ATI stuff? [11:06] nixternal: kind of [11:06] i have a guy in #ubuntu-classromm that has an ATI with Dapper issue [11:06] im stuck [11:06] nixternal: aiglx is in xorg 7.1 by default [11:06] oh ya..forgot about that "crap" ;) [11:06] nixternal: I'll hop into the channel, won't guarantee much competence with ATI though :D [11:06] trappist, yea the date isnt updating, i dont think thats RC though [11:07] #ubuntu-classroom btw jdong ;) [11:07] the account gets created and is useable , so it is ok [11:07] nixternal: yea yea figured it out the second time :D [11:08] imbrandon: the date in the first place is a little nasty. should probably say something like N/A [11:09] actualy it should probably say the date the account was made untill changed the first time [11:10] but thats an upstream issue imho [11:10] yeah, definitely not a packaging issue [11:10] okies dinner time, bbiab [11:10] Riddell: what changed in the new power manager? [11:11] everything looks OK [11:11] jdong: nothing [11:13] ah ok === jdong tests to see if guidance's display power bug is fixed [11:13] gnite [11:13] _Sime: just to show you : http://tonio.homelinux.org/tmp/capture1.png [11:14] hm the new power manager does not allow to change cpu throttling settings.. is there another place for it now? [11:14] can someone try this please ? inserting an audio cd and opening in konqueror.... [11:14] I'm wondering if I ported the patches to 3.5.5 correctly [11:15] nuku: install powersave again? :D [11:15] :p === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:16] Riddell: guidance display settings bug persists [11:16] Riddell: DPMS timeout not preserved across a logout [11:16] Riddell: I just set my timeout to 2 minutes, logged out, and now it says 2 hours [11:16] i'll go with cpufreq-set then :) [11:17] nuku: make a lot of cpufreq-set panel buttons? [11:17] :) [11:17] jdong: haha :) yeah [11:18] Tonio_, i can confirm that happens for me too ( with the audio cd ) [11:18] _Sime, ^ [11:18] i have it most time "ondemand" anyway but sometimes perfomance .. well brings just more performance :) [11:18] lol [11:18] imbrandon the point is it works for _Sime [11:18] for me, ondemand feels just as snappy [11:19] maybe it's because I'm using a core duo whose lowest state is pretty freakin powerful already [11:19] imbrandon: so 1/ my port to kde 3.5.5 is crappy 2/ there is something that has changed in 3.5.5 code that is incompatible with _Sime's work [11:19] imbrandon I would favor the first option :) [11:19] jdong: yeah you may don't even realize what you computer is capable of :) [11:20] nuku: I've used it on performance before... [11:20] I used to have it default to performance on AC power [11:20] (via /etc/acpi) [11:22] Riddell: guidance looks ok to me (checked powermanager and basic test with kc modules) [11:24] I'l [11:24] kitties back ;) [11:24] I'll upload guidance then, any fixes will go into -updates [11:26] nuku: edgy uses kernel ondemand and this is snappy, so little need for manual control [11:27] Lure: can you reproduce DPMS timeouts not sticking? [11:27] imbrandon I recompared the patches, the ones in 3.5.5 are correct.... [11:27] Lure: I set mine to 2 minutes, and on login it turns into 2 hours, then 5 hours [11:28] jdong: only if I log out ;-) === Lure loging out and in === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:29] hmm... haven't been here for a while... anything I can do? (except preferably bug triaging)... I have a feeling artwork is finished, can't send stuff to universe anymore... [11:30] jdong: confirmed - I set it to 15 min and it is 5 hours after login [11:30] Lure: it seems like the restored time is proportional to the originally set time [11:30] 2minutes -> 2 hours, 15min -> 5 hours [11:31] so it must be saving, but not being read back correctly [11:31] jdong: yep [11:31] hmm, so who fixes guidance? :D [11:32] <_Sime> jdong: use "xset -q" to find out what the X server things the timeout is. [11:32] DPMS (Energy Star): [11:32] Standby: 120 Suspend: 120 Off: 120 [11:32] DPMS is Enabled [11:32] Monitor is On [11:32] 2 hours [11:32] imbrandon: ping [11:32] _Sime: ah ! [11:32] <_Sime> jdong: and compare that to the value in ~/.kde/....blah.../displayconfigrc [11:33] _Sime: what test can I do that might help you ? [11:33] dpmsSeconds=120 [11:33] _Sime: are those values in minutes or seconds? [11:34] <_Sime> jdong: the manual pages says that xset reports seconds. [11:34] _Sime: ok, then it's correct right now [11:35] _Sime: I'm gonna logout/login and see what it gets reset to === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:36] _Sime: Standby: 7200 Suspend: 7200 Off: 7200 [11:36] _Sime: dpmsSeconds=120 [11:36] _Sime: hmm, so seconds seem to be turning into minutes on login [11:37] was bug 65610 fixed with todays updates? [11:37] Malone bug 65610 in kdebase "[kde 3.5.5] konqueror will not open links" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/65610 [11:39] <_Sime> jdong: you could try putting debug in displayconfig-restore.py around line 169. [11:40] _Sime: running displayconfig-restore restores the correct setting [11:41] _Sime: strange that it isn't being reset properly at login though [11:42] <_Sime> jdong: displayconfig-restore.py should be getting run at login. [11:42] _Sime: yeah, but why isn't it? Lure has the same problem, too [11:42] <_Sime> jdong: if is doesn't run at login then we have a problem. [11:43] _Sime: it is in /etc/X11/Xsession.d, but it clearly didn't restore my settings properly... [11:43] <_Sime> jdong: the kde login sequence was changed in 3.5.4 IIRC. [11:43] _Sime: that's about when this problem started [11:43] _Sime: I am debugging it - it looks like xset -q is reporting it strangely, so it may be restore does it wrongly at first place [11:43] Lure: run displayconfig-restore [11:43] Lure: at a terminal. For me, that correctly restores the right value [11:43] <_Sime> Lure: can you confirm that displayconfig-restore.py is being run at login? [11:44] jdong: yep, you are probably right - -restore is not run at startup [11:44] _Sime: will check this now... [11:44] _Sime / Lure: gonna do a logout and see if Xsession.d is processed at login === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:47] _Sime: that script is being run at login [11:47] so it would appear more like something is coming in and overridding it afterwrads [11:47] <_Sime> maybe. [11:47] <_Sime> bed-time for me, [11:48] I wrapped the 40guidance* script with a set of touches, and surely enough both files were created [11:48] jdong: it gets converted to minutes somehow (multiplied by 60) [11:48] Lure: yeah, the question is, who's doing it? [11:49] _Sime: night ! will you be there tomorrow ? === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:51] Lure: xset is only being called once during bootup [11:51] and that's correctly, by displayconfig-restore [11:51] Lure: something else is using a different method to botch up DPMS [11:51] jdong: line 1668 in displayconfig.py is suspitions - it compares intervals[0] (in sec) with dpms_min [11:52] jdong: I doubt that this causes it, but it is plain wrong === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:54] jdong: dpms_min is actually in seconds (just to confuse me) ;-) [11:57] Riddell: what's usually the release procedure? link the package to kde-packager ml, then publishing it? [12:00] RockMan: for what? [12:00] Riddell: kdebluetooth [12:00] RockMan: most apps have a string freeze where you tell kde-i18n-doc to translate it, then after a week you release and announce on kde-announce and kde-apps.org and poke me [12:01] RockMan: kde-packager isn't used much except for the actual KDE releases, although I wouldn't mind it being used more [12:01] Riddell: err.. dunnow if it's the case, since it was freeze for nearly one year [12:01] RockMan: just release then :) [12:01] ok [12:03] RockMan: but get someone to check the tar for sanity before you announce it [12:03] Riddell: check your mail :) [12:03] Riddell: i did ^^ above [12:04] although i repackaged it, so.. right.. better to recheck [12:05] RockMan: url? [12:05] Riddell: http://zerogoki.homelinux.org/kdebluetooth-1.0_beta2.tar.bz2 [12:05] completly offtopic: would ubuntu keep on using Fx, or would they switch to this newfangled, foolish IceWeasel thingy? [12:06] ryanakca: people are talking to mozilla about it === Prezu [i=patryk@dug.net.pl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:06] Riddell: kk... [12:06] and iceweasel isn't foolish, it's hardly debian's fault if that's what they have to do [12:07] Lure: hmm, I don't think that causes it though [12:08] Lure: if I manually run displayconfig-restore as the last item in my session, everything is fine and dandy [12:08] jdong: no, not at all - it is just misleading name of variable === ryanakca would have to agree with the mozilla people... from what little I know about it... I wouldn't want anybody to go out, take my product (xyz), mess around with it, and call it xyz [12:08] Lure: yet I tried to trap /usr/bin/xset, and it's only called once and correctly [12:08] Lure: so there must be an API call of some sort for DPMS timeout [12:08] Riddell: anything I can do? (except preferably bug triaging)... I have a feeling artwork is finished, can't send stuff to universe anymore... [12:08] ryanakca: every other free software project seems to be happy with that [12:08] and some program is using it [12:09] jdong: do you have also gnome installed? [12:09] ryanakca: if you can download CDs you could test the accessibility profiles all work [12:09] Lure: yep [12:09] Riddell: no, name it something else, just not my product name... [12:09] Riddell: umm... no, anything else? [12:09] jdong: maybe some gnome/kde desktop interaction (I have gnome now just for two weeks and did not notice this problem before) === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.120.51] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:10] Riddell: I'd have to go out and buy myself some more CD's :) [12:10] Lure: interesting proposition... [12:10] jdong: gnomerc is also after displayconfig_restore [12:10] Lure: right, but it shouldn't be run if it's not a gnome session [12:11] Lure: if [ "$BASESTARTUP" = gnome-session -o \ [12:11] nixternal: any plans for an rc page? [12:11] jdong: right... [12:11] ryanakca: I know, search kde-look.org for a suitable RC announcment image [12:12] ryanakca: anything kubuntu themed [12:12] Riddell: bbl, supper, RC announcement image? [12:13] Riddell: when is the RC due? [12:13] ryanakca: random image, like the release stories here have http://kubuntu.org/announcements/ [12:13] nixternal: week today [12:13] im getting ready to start working on a page, and was going to message the channel for input in about 15 minutes ;) [12:13] i don't like creating the page early, as it always gets put on Digg